[12:00] <Xenguy> godfather_: you used alien, yes?
[12:00] <godfather_> so by alien i transformed it in a .deb
[12:00] <lupine_85> then it'll spit out any errors at you
[12:01] <Digital> tried that. all I can get is basic progs. like notepad and wordpad
[12:01] <Xenguy> godfather_: you still have the deb?
[12:01] <npster> Digital: write in Terminal sudo wine and the destination of your program
[12:01] <godfather_> i have the .deb file
[12:01] <godfather_> on my desktop
[12:01] <godfather_> i installed it
[12:01] <lupine_85> digital: what are you trying to run?
[12:01] <godfather_> but now
[12:01] <Xenguy> godfather_: or maybe it doesn't matter; just try dpkg -L and see
[12:01] <Digital> I want to test it by installing sim city 2000 (just happened to find it) from the cd rom
[12:02] <godfather_> dpkg -L filename
[12:02] <Gollum> Is there a public news server for ubuntu? like news.ubuntu.com something ?
[12:02] <godfather_> ?
[12:02] <Digital> or I'd like to run KCeasy from my windows partition
[12:02] <Xenguy> godfather_: without the extention, yes
[12:02] <lupine_85> Digital: and when you run the programs in question, do you get any errors?
[12:02] <npster> Digital: Installing in Linux isn't recommended!
[12:02] <Xenguy> godfather_: the packagename
[12:02] <Digital> I get module not found
[12:02] <Naik0> Hey i tried to change somethings in alsa mixer but its wrong wrong wrong i only hear PIIIIIP all the time. Can i set this alsa mixer to standard values?
[12:02] <lupine_85> ...which module...? ;)
[12:03] <Naik0> default values i want it like it was 10 minutes ago
[12:03] <lupine_85> (and is it wine or the program you're running that's giving the error?)
[12:03] <npster> Digital: Of course. How do you expect a Windows program that is installable to work in LINUX !!!
[12:03] <lupine_85> npster: want to see my linux-running install of Baldurs Gate?
[12:03] <Digital> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\kceasy.exe": Module not found
[12:04] <Digital> I've browsed to it and everything... I've got my other drives mounted also, I'm just a lil confussed now
[12:04] <npster> lupine_85: I have no idea what Baldurs Gate is !
[12:04] <lupine_85> hmm. You might need to tell wine that your "drive c" is your windows partition (as opposed to it using ~/.wine/drive_c)
[12:04] <Digital> npster... have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years?
[12:04] <lupine_85> run winecfg and set it up there
[12:04] <godfather_> sudo dpkg -L realplayer_10.0.7.785-20060202_i386
[12:04] <godfather_> Package `realplayer_10.0.7.785-20060202_i386' is not installed.
[12:04] <godfather_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[12:04] <godfather_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[12:04] <lupine_85> "Baldurs Gate"++; :D
[12:05] <caseyomah> Bouldur's Gate: N. M$ RPG Program for Win32
[12:05] <npster> Digital: -10 years and I'd be 5
[12:05] <erUSUL> !paste > godfather_:
[12:05] <lupine_85> just the right size then :)
[12:05] <Digital> ok lupine_85... what do I have to do to change the location of the windows partition
[12:05] <lupine_85> run winecfg
[12:05] <erUSUL> !paste > godfather_
[12:05] <Digital> npster - HI LARIOUS
[12:05] <godfather_> sorry
[12:05] <lupine_85> by default, wine uses "~/.wine/drive_c" as it's C drive
[12:06] <Digital> lupine_85 - running
[12:06] <lupine_85> all your windows programs are installed there; DLLs etc. are expected to be there
[12:06] <npster> Digital: I love linux and it doesn't matter how old you are. Just have the passion for it !
[12:06] <Xenguy> godfather_: you have the wrong package name it seems
[12:06] <caseyomah> lupine_85, is there a way to use the REAL "C:" from a M$ install for wine?
[12:06] <NthDegree> Digital, you don't need windows to use wine
[12:06] <kevinG> any idea why my sound wouldn't be working right now?
[12:06] <Xenguy> godfather_: maybe just 'realplayer' ?
[12:06] <NthDegree> oops wrong person :)
[12:06] <lupine_85>  if you change it to your "real" drive C, it'll find the DLLs/etc that it needs
[12:06] <Digital> NthDegree, all my programs are already installed in my xp partition, so I want to go right to them
[12:07] <godfather_> bu  i typed ls
[12:07] <NthDegree> Digital, that isn't 100% recommended since the "fake" windows is much more stable on the linux system
[12:07] <linuchsan> clearzen: what is your laptop manufacture?
[12:07] <godfather_> that is the file with .deb extension
[12:07] <Digital> lupine_85, so I want to change the drive mapping to my main xp drive
[12:07] <Digital> ??
[12:07] <lupine_85> yes :). so you want to be in the "drives" tab
[12:08] <longwave> godfather_: the .deb filename and installed package name do not have to be the same
[12:08] <Xenguy> godfather_: if the syntax doesn't work, then mess around and try something different
[12:08] <Digital> NthDegree - Then how do I get all my old xp progs working on through linux wine?
[12:08] <caseyomah> lupine_85, I thought the C: had to map to a linux path...
[12:08] <godfather_> xenguy
[12:08] <linuchsan> clearzen: cause i think it could be an acpi issue?
[12:08] <npster> bye
[12:08] <NthDegree> Digital, you run their installers via wine
[12:08] <CharonX> Anyone know how to change the keyboard controls so the volume controls on the keyboard adjust the PCM instead of the master ?
[12:08] <godfather_> you'e right
[12:08] <lupine_85> Spot the drive mapping for "C:" (../drive_c) and change it to (for instance) /media/xp_partition
[12:08] <godfather_> i tried to give realplayer
[12:08] <NthDegree> Digital, and if they are going to work they will
[12:08] <BigToe> is there a program to make a gif out of the current screen, or selections of it?
[12:08] <lupine_85> and you're don
[12:08] <lupine_85> done*
[12:08] <godfather_> and it seems to work
[12:08] <Xenguy> godfather_: try just 'realplayer'; if that doesn't work try the rpm instead e.g. rpm -ql realplayer etc.
[12:08] <Digital> ok NthDegree, I drop in my windows cd then right...
[12:09] <Digital> and then I type what into wine?
[12:09] <godfather_> i tried just realplayer
[12:09] <godfather_> and it works
[12:09] <lupine_85>  probably best to have a backup of anything important on your XP partition "just in case"... but you don't need it
[12:09] <NthDegree> Digital, nope you don't have to WINE is 100% free and doesn't need windows CD-ROM at all
[12:09] <lupine_85> (probably) :)
[12:09] <godfather_> and now
[12:09] <lupine_85> digital: once you've changed the drive mapping, just "wine programname" again
[12:09] <Digital> ok, so how do I add more windows apps to it?
[12:09] <caseyomah> Digital, you don't use the Windows CD, if you want to you want VMWare, not wine.
[12:10] <godfather_> ?
[12:10] <BigToe> is there a program to make a gif out of the current screen, or selections of it?
[12:10] <NthDegree> Digital, you can open up a terminal and put wine <path to application>
[12:10] <Xenguy> godfather_: run that query with '|less' at the end of the line...
[12:10] <caseyomah> BigToe is looking for a screen capture utility for linux
[12:10] <BigToe> caseyomah, mhm :D
[12:10] <fuoco> anyone with an ipod knows if it's possible to use the same ipod with both itunes on windows and some app in linux at the same time ?
[12:10] <lupine_85> Digital: the point behind changing the drive mapping is so that already-installed programs under Windows can find their .dlls under Wine - that's all
[12:11] <NthDegree> Digital, there is a way to run Windows inside Linux called VMWare, that may be more your cup of tea - much easier to use
[12:11] <caseyomah> BigToe, I'd like one too. :)
[12:11] <Xenguy> godfather_: then look for the 'binary' file (e.g. /usr/bin/realplayer or something like that)
[12:11] <Digital> NthDegree, so if I have KCeasy on my xp install I have to tell wine d:\\windows\\programfiles\\KCeasy\\KCeasy.exe
[12:11] <lupine_85> now I must go to bed
[12:11] <BigToe> no digen
[12:11] <BigToe> Digital*
[12:11] <BigToe> you give it the linux path
[12:11] <NthDegree> Digital, uh you put the linux location of it WINE will emulate the C:\ etc for you
[12:11] <niktaris_lap> hi, anyone know where the ubuntu kernel patches are located?
[12:11] <NthDegree> so /home/blah/blah as an example
[12:12] <Xenguy> godfather_: that will be the command you need to enter at the command prompt (when you find the right one :-)
[12:12] <NthDegree> or /media/cdrom0/quake3.exe (better example)
[12:12] <Digital> Nth, I understand it's emulating windows in a way... but how do I have native access to my old files
[12:12] <caseyomah> niktaris_lap,  Repositories us.ubuntu.com
[12:12] <NthDegree> Digital, you can map a drive letter to your old windows partition
[12:12] <Digital> ok
[12:13] <godfather_> i'm a newbie
[12:13] <niktaris_lap> caseyomah, what package name?
[12:13] <godfather_> i need more time
[12:13] <NthDegree> Digital, on winecfg you can add a drive X for instance
[12:13] <godfather_> thank you
[12:13] <godfather_> Xenguy
[12:13] <Xenguy> godfather_: yw
[12:13] <Digital> yeah, I've got a few drives in there already, but I don't know how to access them yet
[12:13] <caseyomah> niktaris_lap, you have to be in Advanced mode.
[12:13] <mkquist_> anyone have any luck with photoshop under wine?
[12:13] <Naik0> Someone, PLEASE help me. My sound is just beeping. I need to set ALSAmixer and OSSmixer values to default again.!
[12:13] <mkquist_> i can get imageready to run, but not photoshop
[12:14] <niktaris_lap> caseyomah, can't I find it from packages.ubuntu.com ?
[12:14] <Xenguy> mkquist_: I've heard there are versions of PS that run under wine.  Maybe try the Wine website for instructions
[12:14] <godfather_> g' night
[12:14] <godfather_> guys
[12:14] <NthDegree> Digital, well you can already access your old files via linux or run something like office 97 and access them via emulated windows
[12:14] <Xenguy> night
[12:14] <Digital> ok... starting to get it
[12:14] <caseyomah> niktaris_lap, It's easier from Synaptic.
[12:15] <fuoco> anyone can recommend a good wireless AP (router) ?
[12:15] <NthDegree> Digital, when you run a windows app your mapped drives e.g. C: D: etc. access the places on linux where you mapped the letter to
[12:15] <mkquist_> xenguy- 7 is supposed to work, i checked but it dont for me
[12:15] <niktaris_lap> caseyomah, ok but apart from _how_ I will get it, in what package are they ?
[12:15] <mkquist_> NaikO - check here maybe? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive
[12:15] <Senesence> I can't find my nvidia settings box, con someone tell me where I can find it?
[12:15] <mkquist_> Naid0 - or is this ur nick?
[12:16] <caseyomah> niktaris_lap, in advanced mode, Search "linux"
[12:16] <Digital> NthDegree, I have my windows drive mounted on my desktop... is there anyway that I can just browse to what I want to use and run it?
[12:16] <mkquist_> Naik0- rather
[12:16] <caseyomah> niktaris_lap, Those are all kernels.
[12:16] <Naik0> mkquist_: rather what? dont understand
[12:16] <jacques> how do you upgrade from 5.04 to 6.06
[12:16] <mkquist_> Naik0-was trying to figure ur nick, try this maybe... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive
[12:16] <NthDegree> Digital, if you map the drive C to your windows drive then run the app through wine it may work
[12:17] <mkquist_> Naik0 - for ur sound probs
[12:17] <niktaris_lap> caseyomah, I don't want a kernel image but the patches that are applied to ubuntu
[12:17] <Naik0> thanks mkquist_
[12:17] <mkquist_> Naik0 - np
[12:17] <Senesence> How do I enable vertical sync on ubuntu?
[12:17] <Xenguy> jacques: there must be instructions on the ubuntu web site
[12:17] <Digital> NthDegree, so how do I map it over?
[12:17] <crofty> I am trying to get sony K608i to work with ubuntu?
[12:17] <niktaris_lap> caseyomah, so I can take a vanilla kernel and apply those patches to it
[12:17] <NthDegree> open up a terminal then run winecfg then alter the mapping
[12:17] <nozorro> Senesence: i think it's available from the System Tools menu, anyway: 'gksu nvidia-settings' from the terminal
[12:17] <crofty> I have it connected on the usb cable
[12:17] <jacques> Xenguy, it tells you that you can do it but not how
[12:18] <As0ka> Has anyone here got WPA wireless working with a dapper install?
[12:18] <jacques> that i have seen
[12:18] <caseyomah> niktaris_lap, Those wouldn't be in a package, I don't know if they are released.
[12:18] <As0ka> Because I am having problems
[12:18] <NthDegree> Digital. winecfg allows you to change your C: D: etc and choose what version of windows you emulate
[12:18] <As0ka> and it's poopy
[12:18] <jacques> !upgrade
[12:18] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:18] <Senesence> nozorro: I can't find the "System Tools" menu.
[12:19] <Digital> whenever I got to browse it only goes to the home folder
[12:19] <Digital> well, the linux drive I should say
[12:19] <nozorro> Senesence: using ubuntu or kubuntu over there?
[12:19] <Senesence> nozorro: Ubuntu gnome desktop
[12:19] <caseyomah> Digital, you don't want to set your "Windows Boot" drive mounting to "C:" in wine, because the registry will be calling for hardware that it can't see.
[12:20] <nozorro> Senesence: there should be a System Tools menu after the default install, really, under Applications
[12:20] <Xenguy> jacques: also this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-1d23d3a3a8b3c464847785dd1f2ed05b0b24176a
[12:20] <niktaris_lap> caseyomah, I tried linux-source but can't seem to find them?
[12:20] <Xenguy> jacques: from the wiki
[12:20] <NthDegree> caseyomah, it deals with that now :)
[12:20] <Digital> ok... so I add a new drive in the winecfg... it comes up D:
[12:20] <caseyomah> NthDegree, Really?
[12:20] <Digital> then I do what?
[12:21] <NthDegree> caseyomah, it makes it's own snapshots and things to deal with exceptions between the real and "fake" windows
[12:21] <NthDegree> Digital, then you run the application in wine
[12:21] <Senesence> nozorro: No, it's not under applications. I have a system menu with preferences and administration submenus, but nothing nvidia specific.
[12:21] <NthDegree> so go into your windows drive and fine an application you want to run
[12:21] <NthDegree> find*
[12:21] <Digital> ok
[12:21] <caseyomah> Digital, if what NthDegree is telling me is true you set what Windows saw a C to C Windows D to D and so on (but you have to mount each "drive" into linux first.
[12:22] <Digital> caseyomah, drives are mounted
[12:22] <larsemil> how do i get a folder to show the pictures in it as pictures and not icons in gnome? do you know what i mean?
[12:22] <caseyomah> Digital, Map them one for one (the same way M$ saw them)
[12:22] <freesun> please, can anyone tell me how to enable kernel modules support?
[12:22] <nozorro> Senesence: no Sys Tool submenu under the Applications menu? strange -- if not try at least 'gksudo nvidia-settings' from terminal -- we weill make e menu entry later on
[12:23] <NthDegree> Digital, once you have found the app you want right click it and select copy
[12:23] <Digital> NthDegree, I feel like I missed something.... phase 1. install wine  phase 2. ?????   phase 3. Profit$$$
[12:23] <NthDegree> Digital, then open up a terminal and type wine
[12:23] <Digital> ok, copied
[12:23] <djm62> can anyone help me work out why my DVD/CD writer is not writing CDs (or I presume DVDs if I could afford to waste one).  Doesn't seem to depend on frontend (I've tried nautilus, serpentine, and k3b) but I've got a log of it failing if that's any use.  I've already futzed about with DMA
[12:23] <NthDegree> Digital, then press space right click and paste
[12:23] <Digital> copy the whole folder or just the app?
[12:24] <NthDegree> just the EXE file
[12:24] <Digital> ok, and paste it into the emu windows folder right
[12:24] <NthDegree> no
[12:24] <NthDegree> open up a terminal
[12:24] <NthDegree> then type wine
[12:24] <NthDegree> put a space
[12:24] <NthDegree> then paste
[12:24] <NthDegree> it will paste in the location of the application
[12:24] <mkquist> i could just shoot myself-nic problems... cable wasnt plugged in all the way..
[12:24] <NthDegree> then hit return :)
[12:24] <Naik0> mkquist: didnt work :(
[12:25] <mkquist> no, so whats happeneing w/ur sound then?
[12:25] <nozorro> Senesence: it's 'gksu nvidia-settings', sorry
[12:25] <Naik0> its beeping
[12:25] <Digital> digital@Digital:~$ wine /media/hda1/Program Files/KCeasy/KCeasy.exe
[12:25] <Digital> wine: cannot find '/media/hda1/Program'
[12:25] <caseyomah> fivre, or ntfs-3g fame?
[12:25] <caseyomah> fivre, of ntfs-3g fame?
[12:25] <mkquist> Naiko0 what do u mean 'beeping'?
[12:25] <NthDegree> Digital, no problem
[12:25] <fivre> what?
[12:25] <NthDegree> Digital, put quotes around the location of the program
[12:25] <Naik0> it says BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP all the time
[12:25] <mkquist> Naik0 - as in only beeping, no sound other that that?
[12:25] <fivre> uhh....
[12:26] <NthDegree> so "/media/hda1/Program Files/KCeasy/KCeasy.exe"
[12:26] <Naik0> no sound other than that
[12:26] <fivre> I used ntfs-3g for a bit
[12:26] <mkquist>  Naik0 - pc beep or system sound card beep?
[12:26] <Naik0> soundcard
[12:26] <As0ka> Can anyone help me with a WPA wireless problem?
[12:26] <caseyomah> Oh, not the big man though. lol
[12:26] <fivre> but it was really slow, so I just converted everything to ext2
[12:26] <mkquist>  Naik0 - so pc speaker constant beeeeeeeep ?
[12:26] <NthDegree> Digital, you do realise KCeasy is so unnecessary when there is gtk-gnutella for linux right?
[12:26] <Senesence> nozorro: I added system tools menu with the alacarte menu editor, but there are not many choices. The only relevant thing was the configuration editor.
[12:26] <Naik0> now i have muted
[12:26] <larsemil> how do i get a folder to show the pictures in it as pictures and not icons in gnome? do you know what i mean?
[12:26] <mkquist>  Naik0 - or beep/off/beep/off
[12:26] <Naik0> but if i unmute it says beep
[12:26] <Digital> NthDegree, I know... I just was using it for tests
[12:27] <Naik0> no Beep all the time
[12:27] <NthDegree> lol
[12:27] <nozorro> Senesence: try the command line thing i menitoined first please: gksu nvidia-settings
[12:27] <caseyomah> Beep to the point of buzz.
[12:27] <mkquist>  Naik0 - reseat ur cards/memory would be my guess
[12:27] <tuna> where can I get automake 1.6 for ubuntu?
[12:27] <Amaranth> !info automake1.6
[12:27] <ubotu> Package automake1.6 does not exist in any distro I know
[12:27] <Senesence> nozorro: I would really like to get this working from the GUI, is there a way?
[12:27] <Naik0> nono this is alsamix or ossmix problem
[12:27] <mkquist>  Naik0 - usually thats ur motherboard telling u somethings wrong
[12:27] <Digital> NthDegree, I got it to give me a bunch of crap then a little popup with an error for access something blah
[12:27] <Digital> so it's a start
[12:27] <Amaranth> tuna: you can't
[12:27] <Naik0> it started when i was configure with oss and alsa mixer
[12:27] <mkquist>  Naik0 - but u have no sound card?
[12:27] <tuna> shit
[12:27] <Amaranth> tuna: why do you need that exact version?
[12:28] <Naik0> ofc i have
[12:28] <Digital> BEST LINE EVER
[12:28] <NthDegree> Digital, if it looks like a windows error message then it works
[12:28] <mkquist>  Naik0 - or onboard?
[12:28] <caseyomah> Naik0, Mute, volume down everything, unmute main, volume up one at a time.
[12:28] <Digital> destroy child objects
[12:28] <nozorro> Senesence: yes, but let's first check wether that app is really there pls, then we can make a menu entry
[12:28] <tuna> I got a big heap of source that doesnt compile without
[12:28] <Digital> YAY, It sort of works then
[12:28] <Naik0> caseyomah: i did but its something in OSS mixer
[12:28] <Nizo> Hi is there anyone who can help me with setting wifi?
[12:28] <Naik0> that is wrong
[12:28] <Amaranth> tuna: ugh, tell someone to fix their crap to work with 1.9 :P
[12:28] <linuchsan> larsemi:gthumb
[12:28] <NthDegree> Digital, if you want to run a REAL Windows inside Linux you can by installing VMWare
[12:28] <Digital> so, I guess I should try some other programs then eh
[12:28] <Naik0> i cant mute ossmixer because some prog are using it
[12:28] <caseyomah> Naik0, so with all volumes down it still beep/buzzes?
[12:28] <Naik0> i think that
[12:29] <Naik0> caseyomah: no
[12:29] <mkquist>  Naik0 - sry missread ur earlier post, got on wrong track, thought u had no soundcard
[12:29] <Digital> NthDegree, that would be like having windowed Windows then right
[12:29] <NthDegree> Digital, yes
[12:29] <michael> i'm missing /usr/include/GL/glxproto.h
[12:29] <Digital> I could boot my windows inside of linux
[12:29] <michael> where can i get it?
[12:29] <Senesence> nozorro: It's there. Now how can I run it from the GUI.
[12:29] <Naik0> mkquist: np
[12:29] <caseyomah> Naik0, then turn up main and listen, then one at a time, if the beep comes back mute that one again.
[12:29] <nozorro> Senesence: ok if you like i show you how to make a menu entry for that
[12:29] <NthDegree> Digital, you can't boot the windows you already have on the other partition no, you have to install a fresh one inside VMWare
[12:30] <wizzard> Hi how do I type in a corect location to a .txt file located on "sytem drive /home/fredrik/pass.txt"
[12:30] <wizzard> tried this among oter but it wil not work
[12:30] <wizzard> vncviewer -fullscreen -passwd /home/fredrik/pass.txt 192.168.0.3
[12:30] <Digital> see, I'm really just trying to learn how to use linux because it's something I've never done... but it's so pretty I might make the switch
[12:30] <Senesence> nozorro: please
[12:30] <Digital> I could install, I have all the discs
[12:30] <nozorro> open Applications > Acessories > Alacarte Menu Editor first ...
[12:30] <maple1> how do I remove the virus on my hard drive called "Microsoft Windows"?
[12:30] <gnizzub> bye
[12:30] <Naik0> so i cant set ALSA mixer and OSS mixer to default values again?
[12:30] <Naik0> if i can do that it soulve my problem im sure
[12:31] <NthDegree> Digital, then have a look at installing VMWare it is free of charge now in the form of VMWare Server - it's not easy to install but once it's installed it is easy to use :)
[12:31] <caseyomah> Naik0, Unfortunately there is no "revert" button in Mixer.
[12:31] <nozorro> Senesence: then select the submenu where to add the entry ...
[12:31] <Naik0> gaaah i getting mad of this beeping and i need my sound
[12:31] <Digital> Thanks a lot NthDegree... You've really helped even the learning curve
[12:31] <Naik0> can i remove OSS mixer?
[12:32] <caseyomah> Naik0, if you find it's PCM (Wave) that is beeping it could be a stopped process using it, a reboot would fix that.
[12:32] <Senesence> nozorro: Can't find nvidia settings in the alacarte editor.
[12:32] <Naik0> caseyomah: i have rebooted 4 times i think
[12:32] <caseyomah> Naik0, Not that then.
[12:33] <linuchsan> wizzard: where is the :display
[12:33] <nozorro> Senesence: read me instructions above please: select submenu where you want to add the entry first, tell me when done
[12:33] <NthDegree> Digital, if you have any questions there's always people in this channel who can help - if you want to socialize a little bit (not necessarily talking about ubuntu) there's #ubuntu-offtopic too
[12:33] <Senesence> nozorro: done
[12:33] <nozorro> Senesence: Now select File > New Entry from the menu of Alacarte
[12:33] <Naik0> caseyomah: Now im in Alsa mixer and its PCM that is beeping. If i mute it, then it stops.
[12:34] <Digital> sweet. I'm always surprised by how many people will help people out with computer stuff on the internet, but how few will help out in real life with anything else
[12:34] <Naik0> caseyomah: Unmute then it starts again
[12:34] <NthDegree> Digital, that's because everyone picks on the people who do help - i believe people call them "geeks"
[12:34] <Digital> hey, there's a new menu option on my programs. right click-open with wine!
[12:34] <Digital> way easier!
[12:34] <Senesence> nozorro: done
[12:34] <NthDegree> lol
[12:34] <Digital> lol, so true NthDegree
[12:35] <varsendaggr> hey what is the command to play a DVD with mplayer?
[12:35] <nozorro> Senesence: in the 'Name' field, type 'Nvidia Settings'
[12:35] <Digital> vars, I'm new... but I do believe it's "play"
[12:35] <Senesence> nozorro: done
[12:35] <varsendaggr> Digital, nice try
[12:35] <varsendaggr> you'lll get the hang of it
[12:35] <elvirolo> hi all
[12:35] <Frontier> ..
[12:36] <Naik0> caseyomah: can i use some command and see wich programs that are using OSSmixer atm?
[12:36] <NthDegree> Digital, join #ubuntu-offtopic there's plenty of funny people talking about random stuff in there
[12:36] <nozorro> Senesence: in the 'Command' field, type 'gksu nvidia-settings'
[12:36] <Whtiger> Why does the CD installation say it requires 128MB of ram but the website says it needs at least 192MB?
[12:36] <Digital> will do
[12:36] <roh_> Im having a bit of trouble witn an install.
[12:36] <linuchsan> varsendaggr:mplayer dvd://
[12:36] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, If you're talking about in the Multimedia tab of Drives and Media it's mplayer %d I think...
[12:36] <Senesence> nozorro: done
[12:36] <linuchsan> varsendaggr:man mplayer
[12:36] <nozorro> Senesence: you should now have the entry in the corresponding (sub)menu; try it
[12:36] <redguy> varsendaggr: mplayer dvd:/ ? can't remember... the manpage certainly mentions it
[12:36] <dyoz> i need to install all the plugins in firefox , i cant see videos or listening some webs music , anyone can help me please
[12:36] <Naik0> caseyomah: can i use some command and see wich programs that are using OSSmixer atm?
[12:36] <varsendaggr> linuchsan, i just did and bam there it was     amazing hu?
[12:37] <caseyomah> Naik0, I don't know of any...
[12:37] <Digital> one last question NthDegree...
[12:37] <elvirolo> i'm using dapper, and i have an ATI radeon 7500 video card ... the thing is enemy territory is *very* slow, though it used to work under breezy
[12:37] <NthDegree> sure
[12:37] <Naik0> if i can close ossmixer i think it will soulve my problem
[12:37] <dyoz> i need to install all the plugins in firefox , i cant see videos or listening some webs music , anyone can help me please
[12:37] <Senesence> nozorro: Thank you, works great.
[12:37] <Digital> how do I close the programs that have crashed and are sitting up next to my clock?
[12:37] <roh_> Im trying to install ut2004 cd version but when I try to start the.sh file from terminal it says I dont have permission. Any help?
[12:37] <maple1> roh_: sudo
[12:38] <roh_> Thats it?
[12:38] <maple1> yep
[12:38] <varsendaggr> mplayuer is awesome
[12:38] <roh_> I feel stupid...
[12:38] <elvirolo> can anyone help me ?
[12:38] <nozorro> Senesence: ok, this config-app stores a config. file in your home directory, but with admin permissions. a bit off-standard, but no problem
[12:38] <freesun> anyone can help me find out why no faq for sound works for me?
[12:38] <NthDegree> ok try using the System monitor Digital
[12:38] <Digital> thanks
[12:38] <redguy> Naik0: you might try lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[12:38] <NthDegree> Digital, its on System > Administration > System Monitor I think
[12:38] <nozorro> Senesence: you can later drag the menu entry in the menu editor to another location
[12:38] <NthDegree> just kill them :)
[12:38] <varsendaggr> how do i get encrypted DVD support
[12:38] <Digital> yup
[12:38] <roh_> sudo: unable to execute ./linux-installer.sh: Permission denied
[12:39] <Whtiger> The download page says it needs 192MB of ram. The CD says it needs 128MB. And the releasenotes says it needs 256MB.
[12:39] <larryone> hi
[12:39] <Naik0> redguy, as root?
[12:39] <maple1> did you type sudo before ./linux-installer.sh?
[12:39] <roh_> Yes
[12:39] <maple1> hmm
[12:39] <maple1> I think you have to copy it to the HD
[12:39] <larryone> I just bought a sata drive, but gmome parted cant find it.....  any suggestions???
[12:39] <varsendaggr> roh_, do it again
[12:39] <maple1> the script
[12:39] <dyoz> i need to install all the plugins in firefox , i cant see videos or listening some webs music , anyone can help me please
[12:39] <dyoz> i need to install all the plugins in firefox , i cant see videos or listening some webs music , anyone can help me please
[12:39] <redguy> Naik0: hmm, propably
[12:39] <roh_> Okay map ill try it
[12:39] <Naik0> ok i did that
[12:39] <varsendaggr> dyoz, yeah
[12:39] <Naik0> still beeping
[12:40] <NthDegree> varsendaggr, try libdvdcss or libcss
[12:40] <Naik0> when i umnute PCM in alsa
[12:40] <dyoz> where can i find the plugins varsendaggr
[12:40] <varsendaggr> dyoz, just a sec
[12:40] <redguy> Naik0: it should list all processes which use the /dev/dsp device file (which supposedly is the oss mixer device file)
[12:40] <dyoz> ok thanks varsendaggr
[12:41] <Naik0> redguy, it doesnt say anything...
[12:41] <varsendaggr> mozilla-mplayer
[12:41] <dyoz> ??
[12:41] <deitarion> How do you fix a messed up X11 keymap? It seems that's what's causing my friend's spacebar to have no effect.
[12:41] <redguy> Naik0: what does lsof | grep /dev/snd say?
[12:41] <roh_> Map: command not found
[12:41] <sagarp> the synaptics touchpad on my laptop (ubuntu dapper) spontaenously stopped working...Xorg.conf says "Synaptics DeviceOff called"
[12:41] <varsendaggr> dyoz, !repos
[12:42] <maple1> roh: copy to your home folder
[12:42] <varsendaggr> dyoz, enable universe and multiverse
[12:42] <roh_> Okay
[12:42] <jcapote> i have an smp machine that i installed dapper on, i was wondering if im running an smp kernel or not
[12:42] <maple1> then cd to it and just type sudo ./whatever.sh
[12:42] <redguy> Naik0: it should list processes that use alsa mixer
[12:42] <Naik0> gnome-vol 5540      naik0   14u      CHR      116,0               9530 /dev/snd/controlC0
[12:42] <varsendaggr> and then type in the command line apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:42] <dyoz> varsendaggr, do u have any manual in internet?
[12:42] <roh_> same
[12:42] <varsendaggr> !repos
[12:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:43] <varsendaggr> dyoz, does that make sence?
[12:43] <redguy> jcapote: uname -r ?
[12:43] <maple1> roh: first type export SETUP_CDROM=/path/cdrom where "/path/cdrom" is your actual path to the CD drive
[12:43] <roh_> Im checking the manual.
[12:43] <tr0nic> will ubuntu manage to recognise the wireless cared on a new laptop? (mine's an advent)
[12:43] <jcapote> redguy: i did that, and i get 2.6.15-26-386
[12:43] <maple1> I installed ut2004 in ubuntu a while ago
[12:43] <maple1> I just copied the install script to home folder and ran it from there
[12:44] <maple1> using sudo of course
[12:44] <tr0nic> are you talking to me maple1?
[12:44] <roh_> It just says command not found.
[12:44] <maple1> roh_
[12:44] <redguy> jcapote: well, you are running the generic non-smp kernel
[12:44] <dyoz> versen thanks tehre is ok
[12:44] <dyoz> varsendaggr,  thanks
[12:44] <maple1> roh_ what folder are you in?
[12:44] <jcapote> redguy: i figured as much, how can i go about upgrading an smp kernel
[12:44] <varsendaggr> dyoz, anytime
[12:44] <tr0nic> will ubuntu manage to recognise the wireless cared on a new laptop? (mine's an advent)
[12:44] <roh_> I moved it to home the last time.
[12:44] <Naik0> redguy, it dont beep when i mute overall and unmute PCM
[12:45] <lwizardl> hi
[12:45] <maple1> it should be in /home/yourname
[12:45] <lwizardl> anyone use ispconfig ?
[12:45] <redguy> Naik0: maybe it's not PCM thats beeping?
[12:45] <roh_> Okay. Let me move it again
[12:45] <Shuvelhasser> hello there!
[12:45] <redguy> jcapote: well, just install a smp kernel and reboot
[12:45] <roh_> actually turns out it was
[12:45] <maple1> hmm
[12:45] <jcapote> redguy: in synaptic?
[12:46] <jcapote> redguy:  i figured as much just didnt think it was that easy :)
[12:46] <roh_> Can I pm you maplel?
[12:46] <maple1> if you just open terminal and type sudo ./whatever.sh it should work
[12:46] <maple1> yeah
[12:46] <roh_> Want to cut and paste the problem
[12:46] <Glench> anyone know what the theme is in this picture? http://getswiftfox.com/images/swiftfox.jpg
[12:46] <Basic_py> Dapper is latest release? What is ubuntu's equivalent, if any, to Debian sid (aka unstable) ?
[12:47] <varsendaggr> Basic_py, edgy
[12:47] <redguy> jcapote: actually, the -686 kernel seems to be smp
[12:47] <jcapote> redguy: i dont think im 686, im running p2
[12:47] <Shuvelhasser> anyone wanna help a poor newb out?
[12:47] <redguy> jcapote: there used to be -smp kernel packages..
[12:47] <maple1> japote: P2 is 686
[12:47] <wizzard> Hi when i try to connect to a VNC server with this command "  I get the erros : vncviewer -fullscreen -passwd /home/fredrik/pass.txt 192.168.0.3 . Everything worrks if I type te password manualy
[12:47] <StoneNote> !anyone
[12:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:47] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, yeah
[12:47] <redguy> jcapote: 686 is pentium pro and up
[12:47] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: go ahead, ask
[12:48] <jcapote> a bit of googling shows that the dapper 686 kernel has smp built in
[12:48] <Shuvelhasser> It's less one question, more I'd like someone to help me with through stuff
[12:48] <wizzard> Lets try again: Hi when i try to connect to a VNC server with this command "  I get the erros :VNC connection failed: Your connection has been rejected. . Everything worrks if I type te password
[12:48] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: go ahead, maybe we can help you maybe not :-)
[12:49] <redguy> Naik0: hmm, seems that the only app using alsa is the gnome-volume-something
[12:49] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, we will all help probably
[12:49] <Glench> wizzard, then type the password
[12:49] <varsendaggr> if i have to go get some food then red guy can take over
[12:49] <jcapote> there is a linux-686-smp package, im going to install it
[12:49] <jcapote> brb
[12:49] <wizzard> ops.. type the password manualy
[12:49] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, the suspense is killing me though
[12:49] <maple1> I don't know why ubuntu doesn't come with the 686 kernel -_-
[12:49] <Glench> varsendaggr, confusing with a lot of newbs?
[12:50] <varsendaggr> no,   problems easlily passed on to someone else
[12:50] <Glench> only in #ubuntu
[12:50] <roh_> Did I pm the wrong one?
[12:50] <Glench> try being on a tiny channel
[12:51] <varsendaggr> Glench, i've been in this room on and off for about a year and i do like the fast pace flow of it
[12:51] <maple1> there's only 839 people in here
[12:51] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: most of the in lurking mode :-)
[12:51] <Glench> I'd rather a bunch of people I know rather than a constant wave of noobs like myself
[12:52] <nozorro> Glench is bein' overly self-critic (?)
[12:52] <roh_> maple turns out i cant pm you
[12:52] <First|Bleh> that's why we have offtopic so we can ignore the constant wave of newbs :P
[12:52] <Glench> nozorro, only being honest
[12:52] <redguy> maple1: compatibility
[12:53] <Glench> Firetech, true ^_^
[12:53] <Glench> First|Bleh*
[12:53] <Glench> I'm not used to a lot of nicks
[12:53] <nozorro> Glench: :-)
[12:53] <larry_> I just made a couple of posts in here as "larryone"   did they get thru??????
[12:53] <larry_> my connection can be a bit weird sometimes
[12:53] <Glench> being a noob means trying for at least a full 24 hours to get a fucking usb wireless card to work under ubuntu, but failing miserably
[12:54] <First|Bleh> you have exceeded your daily allotment of question marks. please cease and desist.
[12:54] <Shuvelhasser> So, coming from a newb, how does one setup his HD to be accessable.
[12:54] <benderU> how do you scroll up in irssi again?
[12:54] <Glench> heh, First|Bleh
[12:54] <LuisMendes> how can I make amarok play MP3? rhythmbox is playing them just fine
[12:54] <varsendaggr> Glench, have you gotten it to work?
[12:54] <Glench> varsendaggr, I just gave up
[12:54] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: how is it connected?
[12:54] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, go to system --->   disk ---->   type in your sudo password
[12:55] <larry_> I'm going to take lack of a response as a no, so I'll post my question again
 I cant install my SATA drive =0(
 gnome parted doesnt list it
 qtparted doesnt list it
 fdisk doesnt list it =0(
 what's next???
 could it be a driver issue??
 I shouldnt need to install drivers to use my SATA should I?
[12:55] <Glench> whoa flood
[12:55] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: larry_ don't paste like this!
[12:55] <larry_> sry
[12:55] <benderU> hes a witch!!!
[12:55] <redguy> larry_: pasting is not welcome here
[12:55] <nozorro> sorry this was not for Shuvelhasser
[12:55] <cafuego> Why don't you try thata s one line, instead of 7.
[12:55] <Glench> and didn't First tell you that you exceeded your daily allotment?
[12:55] <StoneNote> !paste
[12:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:56] <First|Bleh> larry_: Please stop using the enter key so much.
[12:56] <mkquist_> !enter
[12:56] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:56] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, open up a terminal   that is under aplications accesories
[12:56] <umarmung> Hi. Anyone in here using edgie+epiphany and having javascript problems too?
[12:56] <Glench> hahaha First|Bleh
[12:56] <varsendaggr> are you with me so far
[12:56] <larry_> I apologise, my connection died while trying to ask the question last time, so I have no idea how much of it got thru
[12:56] <redguy> larry_: you could at least rewrite the question so that it would be one line
[12:56] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser,
[12:56] <First|Bleh> umarmung: join #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[12:56] <Glench> or type term into deskbar ^______________________~
[12:56] <umarmung> First|Bleh: thanks, and apologies. :)
[12:57] <LuisMendes> how can I make amarok play MP3? rhythmbox is playing them just fine
[12:57] <maple1> LuisMendes, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[12:57] <larry_> well now that the question is there, is there anything else I can try to get my SATA drive to work??
[12:57] <defendguin> how do you change the default window manager in gnome?  id like to use something besides metacity
[12:57] <First|Bleh> i'm feeling bitter and spiteful today. abusing the english language isn't likely to get my help.
[12:58] <Shuvelhasser> I'm sensing I'm failing at private messages
[12:58] <Glench> I thought you were going to say php int here somewhere, First|Bleh
[12:58] <Glench> I'm not sure why
[12:58] <First|Bleh> nah
[12:58] <Shuvelhasser> var, noz, have you gotten anything I've said?
[12:58] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: what is it about your disk. care to give any details?
[12:58] <Glench> I should visit this chan more often
[12:58] <redguy> larry_: hmm check if you have linux-restricted-modules installed
[12:59] <redguy> larry_: which chipset do you have?
[12:59] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, where do you want to talk?
[12:59] <varsendaggr> here or
[12:59] <larry_> I'm on a dell dimension 8300
[12:59] <larry_> linux-restricted-modules is installed
[12:59] <jazzrocker> anyone know how to get java apps to integrate w/my gtk theme?
[12:59] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, i got your pm
[12:59] <First|Bleh> ...
[12:59] <jazzrocker> e.g. frostwire
[12:59] <First|Bleh> a 'dell dimenstion 8300' doesn't answer the question
[01:00] <redguy> Shuvelhasser: for unregistered users PM's are disabled. also when you stay on the channel there is a possibility that someone jumps into your conversation
[01:00] <Glench> heh
[01:00] <larry_> redguy, how do I find out?
[01:00] <Roh81> Im having trouble with the ut2004 linux installer. Getting a permission error from the cd and a command not found from user
[01:00] <Glench> redguy, they should just make their own little channel
[01:00] <Shuvelhasser> well thanks redguy, that explains a lot xD
[01:00] <mkquist> Shuvelhasser: which could be a help, cause you got more peeps seeing ur prob
[01:01] <redguy> larry_: your motherboard manual? running lspci perhaps?
[01:01] <larry_> Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller
[01:01] <larry_> is that it?
[01:01] <Shuvelhasser> I'd just rather talk to one person at a time :x
[01:01] <redguy> propably
[01:01] <redguy> larry_: ^^
[01:02] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, meet me in Varsendagger
[01:02] <varsendaggr> wait
[01:02] <varsendaggr> don't just go over to the pm that we have
[01:02] <Sanne> Roh81: can you pastebin what you did and the errors generated? I installed the ut2004 demo fine, maybe I can help. May be different for the fill game, though...
[01:02] <redguy> larry_: well, the modules should be installed with the kernel so it is not a driver issue...
[01:02] <larry_> redguy, that was what lspci told me;  Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller
[01:02] <larry_> ok
[01:03] <Roh81> Sanne Im a complete newbie to linux.
[01:03] <larry_> ok
[01:03] <larry_> hmm
[01:03] <redguy> larry_: ok, could you paste me the output of dmesg ?
[01:03] <redguy> larry_: to the pastebin of course, not on the channel ;-)
[01:04] <Sanne> Roh81: ok, tell me exactly what you did please, and paste any output or errors you want to show me to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.orgtput you want to show to
[01:04] <StoneNote> !paste > larry_
[01:04] <piratepenguin> how do I reconfigure exim again?
[01:04] <redguy> hah ubotu got nifty redirects?
[01:05] <Sanne> Roh81: I'd prefer to stay here, so others may benefit from our discussion.
[01:05] <Roh81> Okay...
[01:05] <Sanne> Roh81: and what's more important, could step in when I'm out of ideas ;)
[01:05] <larry_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22475
[01:05] <Shuvelhasser> So how would I access NTFS HD's without killing my computer?
[01:05] <piratepenguin> how do I reconfigure packages?
[01:06] <JohnsonE> would it be very practical to run utorrent through wine?
[01:06] <pandamonium> anyone know how risky it is to resize partitions?
[01:06] <brian98> Hi All :)
[01:06] <klees> how can i install this splash screen???  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32883
[01:06] <Roh81> roh@roh-desktop:~$ sudo ./linux-installer.sh
[01:06] <Roh81> sudo: ./linux-installer.sh: command not found
[01:06] <Roh81> roh@roh-desktop:~$
[01:06] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: Shuvelhasser well reading it is no problem actually, no destructiuon involved
[01:06] <brian98> Anyone familiar with running 2 montiors ?
[01:06] <piratepenguin> Roh81: sudo chmod +x linux-installer.sh
[01:06] <brian98> I have them up and running
[01:06] <JohnsonE> i have 2 monitors right now and I can't figure out how to split between them :(
[01:06] <brian98> but firefox will only run on one
[01:06] <brian98> JohnsonE
[01:07] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: Could you help guide me through it?
[01:07] <brian98> It's easy :)
[01:07] <JohnsonE> what must i do? :o
[01:07] <larry_> could it be a setting in my bios???
[01:07] <brian98> what video card?
[01:07] <Roh81> Woooo it worked. thanks pirate
[01:07] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: i'm unfortunately not familiar with sata drives ....
[01:07] <z\> Roh81 pls try:sudo chmod +x linux-installer.sh; sh linux-installer.sh
[01:07] <JohnsonE> x700
[01:07] <brian98> ati?
[01:07] <JohnsonE> yes
[01:07] <brian98> k
[01:07] <Sanne> Roh81: (please mention my name so I get alerted when you talk to me) That seems like an easy one. You gave a false path to your instalation file. For that command to work, the file has to be in the same directory as you are in currently.
[01:07] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: but if you knew where in the system the disk is mounted, i'd have no problem i think
[01:08] <Roh81> Actually no I needed to do that chmod first
[01:08] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: I'm not even sure what that means =\
[01:08] <brian98> Johnsone: go to a shell
[01:08] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: is it a normal disk or connected through usb?
[01:08] <Roh81> Its started. Now i just need to figure out this installer, Sanne.
[01:08] <Sanne> Roh81: oh, I just saw it worked, yes, chmod would be my second try :)
[01:08] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: normal disk
[01:08] <JohnsonE> brian: ok
[01:08] <Sanne> Roh81: should be straight forward.
[01:09] <brian98> johnsone: type fglrxinfo
[01:09] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: fine, can you see it under System > Administration > Disks?
[01:09] <brian98> Tell me results
[01:09] <Roh81> Sanne what exactly is startup menu entries?
[01:09] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, i'll help you over in the PM
[01:09] <JohnsonE> brian: done
[01:09] <_ubuntu_> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu on an external maxtor hdd, but i keep getting an error when setting up the filesystem. is this because the drive doesn't support ext3?
[01:09] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: Yes.
[01:09] <brian98> Anyone here running dual head monitor setup?
[01:09] <|_SpY_|> how i change my frequency of monitor? i need change 60 to 75hz :/
[01:09] <Shuvelhasser> Varsendaggr: We've established my IRC hates me and I can't PM
[01:09] <sethk> |_SpY_|, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:10] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: well, what details are given under Properties?
[01:10] <Sanne> Roh81: I believe those are entries in the menu so you can start from there. But first try to start UT2004 from a terminal so you catch any errors.
[01:10] <RMorris85> can someone say my name in the chat i wanna make sure the sound for it works, thanks
[01:10] <dyoz> how can i view if i have flashplayer installed?
[01:10] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: It's a hard disk, it's device is /dev/sda, and the speed is unavailable
[01:10] <|_SpY_|> sethk: in configurate not have any options tu set it :(
[01:10] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: please open a terminal now ...
[01:10] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: ok, done.
[01:10] <sethk> |_SpY_|, then you are choosing the wrong option in the monitor section
[01:11] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, have you gone to disk?
[01:11] <JohnsonE> is there any way i can associate torrents with utorrent AND have it open with wine?
[01:11] <sethk> |_SpY_|, where it says hard, middle, and easy, select middle
[01:11] <Shuvelhasser> Varsendaggr: Yes
[01:11] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: is all the disk ntfs, or just one partition on it ?
[01:11] <varsendaggr> cool
[01:11] <sethk> |_SpY_|, then you will get resolution/vert freq list to choose from
[01:11] <|_SpY_|> ok
[01:11] <dyoz> is there any web that said to me , what plugins i need in my firefox?
[01:11] <dyoz> please1
[01:11] <liquidten2> JohnsonE:  type int he following:
[01:11] <RMorris85> can someone say my name in the chat i wanna make sure the sound for it works, thanks
[01:11] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: pico /usr/bin/TORRENT
[01:11] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: Ubuntu and other info are in diff partitions
[01:11] <longwave> RMorris85: testing
[01:11] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: "sudo nano /usr/bin/TORRENT" to be specific
[01:11] <RMorris85> thanks longwave :) it work
[01:12] <Roh81> thanks for the assist sanne
[01:12] <JohnsonE> liquidten2: it yped pico /usr/bin/TORRENT, should I do the other?
[01:12] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, you have one ubuntu and one windows partition right?
[01:12] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: which partition is the ntfs partition -- can you see this under the Partitions tab?
[01:12] <stev> Hey can anyone tell me why i can't play my mp3's in ubuntu linux ??? please i need help
[01:12] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: You should use Sudo, and make sure you have at least some editor editing the file
[01:12] <azathoth> !restricted
[01:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:12] <Shuvelhasser> Noz/Var: The info from windows is in the NTFS partition, that's the stuff I want to read.
[01:12] <benderU> its an IP thing
[01:13] <azathoth> grev: check those links
[01:13] <varsendaggr> what we want to do is mount that windows partion somewhere in ubuntu   does that make sence?
[01:13] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser,
[01:13] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: then type in "/usr/bin/wine /home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program\ files/WHERE/EVER/utorrent/IS.exe"
[01:13] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: which partition *number*???
[01:13] <stev> Thanks
[01:13] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: then press control+x and choose to save it
[01:13] <brian98> johnsone: what did you get?
[01:13] <Sanne> Roh81: did it work?
[01:13] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: 1 is NTFS, 2 is ubuntu
[01:13] <Roh81> Sanne : So far so good.
[01:14] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok, in the terminal, try the following command ...
[01:14] <Sanne> Roh81: awesome! I still have only the demo, which I already love :)
[01:14] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: then type in "sudo chmod+x /usr/bin/TORRENT", and then right click on a torrent file, choose properties, find "open with", choose an "other" option, and type in manually the command "TORRENT".
[01:14] <Roh81> Sanne : Its five cds though so may take a while for sure.
[01:14] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt
[01:15] <Sanne> Roh81: oh, that's lots. I would be interested to know how it runs, if you finish the install and I'm still here.
[01:15] <Caraibes> if you like John Coltrane, download my music for free :
[01:15] <Caraibes> http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F9B83AC37A0537F6
[01:15] <Roh81> Unless your leaving in the next half hour Im sure you will be here
[01:15] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt busy
[01:15] <Roh81> Ran pretty good in windows. I just got sick of windows finally.
[01:16] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: is that an error that you always get, or for the 1st time?
[01:16] <JohnsonE> liquidten: i pasted in /usr/bin/wine/home/ssb/.wine/drive_c/Program\ files/utorrent.exe
[01:16] <varsendaggr> Shuvelhasser, do this command sudo mkdir    /media/win
[01:16] <redguy> Shuvelhasser: that would be sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:16] <redguy> nozorro: ^^
[01:16] <redguy> !ntfs
[01:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:16] <varsendaggr> then  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/win
[01:16] <pandamonium> this system has become very unstable
[01:16] <Roh81> Sanne I am curious to see if it will actually run better or worse under linux though.
[01:16] <brian98> there really should be a
[01:16] <brian98> !wireless
[01:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:16] <brian98> there is!
[01:16] <pandamonium> applications keep on crashing
[01:16] <brian98> lol
[01:16] <nozorro> redguy: so sorry
[01:17] <liquidten2> pandamonium: 99% of all errors occur between the keyboard and the chair.
[01:17] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: yes, redguy is right
[01:17] <JohnsonE> liquidten: the chmod command didn't work
[01:17] <liquidten2> pandamonium: We need more information about specific problems and error messages.
[01:17] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: "chmod +x /usr/bin/TORRENT"
[01:17] <Sanne> Roh81: Most games I tested ran a bit faster on Linux. I didn't test UT2004Demo on Windows, though.
[01:17] <Shuvelhasser> heh, got a new error
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> pandamonium: what have you done to your system lately?
[01:17] <Shuvelhasser> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[01:17] <brian98> johnsone: have I lost ya
[01:18] <pandamonium> that's the problem liquidten2 there's nothing showing up in syslog
[01:18] <JohnsonE> liquidten: ok i forgot to add in a space there
[01:18] <pandamonium> and the applications just ... close
[01:18] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: then open Places > Computer menu pls
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> pandamonium: Most linux wounds are self inflicted, but most are repairable
[01:18] <Shuvelhasser> opened
[01:18] <pandamonium> Jack_Sparrow, i upgraded from 5 to 6
[01:18] <Roh81> Sanne with one windows and one linux workstation will you be able to run a lan game?
[01:18] <Roh81> through a router I mean
[01:18] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: maybe it's listed there?
[01:18] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: what does, "ls /tmn/disks-conf-sda1" say?  Also, does /etc/mtab mention it?  It may actually be mounted
[01:19] <liquidten2> *"ls /tmp/disks-conf-sda1"  typo
[01:19] <Sanne> Roh81: should be possible, my sweety and I always do that (he's still on Windows mostly);)
[01:19] <Shuvelhasser> Liquid: ls: /tmp/disks-conf-sda1: Permission denied
[01:19] <Shuvelhasser> lol DENIED
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> pandamonium: The problem as I see it is that the upgrade cannot account for all the changes that people can make in their systems.  I assume also You did not make a backup before you upgraded.
[01:19] <redguy> liquidten2, nozorro : though I might be wrong but the mountpoint name suggests that this is just a temporary mountpoind for disk manager
[01:19] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: how about "sudo ls /tmn/disks-conf-sda1"?
[01:20] <Roh81> Sanne you realise because of the : against my name its not showing up in red. Right?
[01:20] <Roh81> ;-}~>
[01:20] <Shuvelhasser> no such file/dir
[01:20] <linuchsan> Shuvelhasser: /tmp
[01:20] <JohnsonE> liquidten: I followed all instructions but when I choose to open it with "TORRENT" nothing happens.
[01:20] <pandamonium> Jack_Sparrow, i didn't make a backup, no. or at least i don't think i did. also i stupidly installed the system on just one partition rather than making a boot partition with my home directories on another
[01:20] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: *** how about "sudo ls /tmp/disks-conf-sda1"?  Same typo AGAIN
[01:20] <effer> what's a quick image viewer i can invoke from console for KDE?
[01:20] <Sanne> Roh81 no, I don't, sorry. It does highlight Sanne: for me, so I didn't know.
[01:21] <Shuvelhasser> hello
[01:21] <Shuvelhasser> liquid
[01:21] <Shuvelhasser> that actually worked
[01:21] <larryone> redguy, thanks for your help, problem has been solved
[01:21] <Shuvelhasser> :O
[01:21] <gnomefreak> effer: if you dont have a gui how do you plan to look at a photo?
[01:21] <Sanne> Roh81 which chat client do you use?
[01:21] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: What does "cat `which TORRENT` say.
[01:21] <Roh81> Ohs! I was wrong sane. its just the crappy client Im using. x)x
[01:21] <brian98> johnsone: did you get the results?
[01:21] <Roh81> x_x even
[01:21] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: copy and paste the command.  It uses the ````` key next to the `, above the tab.
[01:21] <sethk> effer, open it with konqueror, it will do it for you
[01:21] <liquidten2> Rather next to the 1
[01:21] <JohnsonE>  /usr/bin/wine/home/ssb/.wine/drive_c/Program\ files/utorrent.exe
[01:21] <Roh81> Sanne: had forgotten i switched back. Sorry
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> pandamonium:    Rock.... You....  Hard Place... I wish I had an answer
[01:22] <liquidten2> You need a space after wine and before /home
[01:22] <Shuvelhasser> Liquid: Now, what do I do with that?
[01:22] <JohnsonE> ahh ok
[01:22] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: "/usr/bin/wine  /home/ssb/.wine/etcetcetc"
[01:22] <effer> gnomefreak, i just want something i can use from console...like appname imagename.png
[01:22] <pandamonium> Jack_Sparrow, i was thinking, perhaps i should backup whatever files i can across the network and then start afresh
[01:22] <Sanne> Roh81 ah ok, no worries. Now it's working again with the : ?
[01:22] <effer> gnomefreak, something that will pop up quick
[01:22] <redguy> larryone: huh? what was the problem then?
[01:23] <larryone> housemate suggested it may have been a bios setting
[01:23] <pandamonium> Jack_Sparrow, is there a way to partition the disk without loss of data?
[01:23] <larryone> he was right =0)
[01:23] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: I'm not sure, I wasn't here to see what your original question was >_>
[01:23] <lownoma925> Why does my mouse arrow sometimes get confined in the space of a window (I have to go down, to the bottom of the window) to get it out
[01:23] <Roh81> Im actually still on the crappy one. lol Its more convenient at the moment sanne
[01:23] <redguy> larryone:  ^_^
[01:23] <foo> Here is my xorg.conf: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf ... I have an IBM G97 monitor (19", black). http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=532914/ - here are the specs on the monitor. I have random flickers on my screen. I am in 1600x1200. Any ideas?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> effer: kooka?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> pandamonium: Yes... remember to get these as well  Downloaded Ubuntu packages are kept in   /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:23] <Sanne> Roh81 ok, I try to delete the colon when talking to you then :)
[01:23] <larryone> redguy, yea, I felt like a bit of an idiot over that one
[01:23] <JohnsonE> liquidten: it now reads as: /usr/bin/wine/ /home/ssb/.wine/drive_c/Program\ files/utorrent.exe
[01:23] <gnomefreak> effer: krita
[01:23] <Shuvelhasser> Liquid: I just want to be able to like, access the files on the NTFS. If not access, then copy over to my usable ubuntu partition.
[01:24] <effer> gnomefreak, k, will try those out...thx :)
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> pandamonium: The good thing is you will end up with a fresh clean install..
[01:24] <Roh81> Sanne: It doesnt really matter how you type. It does look clean that way and it doesnt show up in red at all.
[01:24] <varsendaggr> DVD!
[01:24] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: type the command, "TORRENT"
[01:24] <varsendaggr> !DVD
[01:24] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:24] <Roh81> Sanne: Like I said for irc this client is pretty crappy.
[01:24] <JohnsonE> says /usr/bin/wine isn't a director
[01:24] <JohnsonE> y
[01:24] <lownoma925> Anyone know why my mouse arrow is bouncing around within a window?
[01:24] <Shuvelhasser> hax
[01:25] <varsendaggr> JohnsonE, that is true
[01:25] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: type the command "sudo /usr/bin/nautilus /tmp/disks-conf-sda1"
[01:25] <varsendaggr> /usr/bin/anything is a launcher
[01:25] <varsendaggr> there are no directories
[01:25] <pandamonium> Jack_Sparrow, i think one of the problems i have is my ISP insists on sending all http through a transparent proxy, only the one i'm sent through by default is broken and they won't acknowledge this
[01:25] <Shuvelhasser> :O
[01:25] <JohnsonE> well that's what it said >_>
[01:25] <pandamonium> so when i install i end up getting errors
[01:25] <liquidten2> JohnsonE: make the text file read:  "/usr/bin/wine /home/ssb/.wine/drive_c/Program\ files/utorrent.exe"  Notice the lack of slash after wine.
[01:26] <redguy> foo: you sure that it is not a video card problem?
[01:26] <Shuvelhasser> well that opened it up
[01:26] <pandamonium> although i've explicitly set a working proxy now, but there seems to be ... legacies of half installed packages
[01:26] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: again isn't it listed under 'computer' anyway?
[01:26] <JohnsonE> liquidten: ok, testing
[01:26] <wilstar> how can i add a bottom of home page in the upper panel of gnome?
[01:26] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: It is but it doesn't do anything when I click it
[01:26] <Sanne> Roh81 btw, if you get an error when you start UT2004 about libstd++5, don't despair, you would just install a missing package. I got that with the demo.
[01:27] <redguy> foo: that's my idea :-)
[01:27] <effer> gnomefreak, you know anything a little more lite-weight?
[01:27] <foo> redguy: System works fine when I boot into Windows XP
[01:27] <sethk> pandamonium, I don't see how using a transparent proxy is relevant, even if the proxy is buggy
[01:27] <gnomefreak> effer: not for kde other than konq.
[01:28] <gnomefreak> thats not light-weight by any means
[01:28] <effer> gnomefreak, what about a non-kde app?
[01:28] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: coould you try this in a terminal: 'sudo /etc/fstab | grep ntfs'?
[01:28] <pandamonium> sethk, some packages don't download properly for some reason
[01:28] <JohnsonE> liquidten: OK, I double click a torrent and it opens up utorrent, but it doesn't start downloading. Is it supposed to?
[01:28] <sethk> effer, you can use any image app in kde
[01:28] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: stop, the command is like this:#
[01:28] <sethk> pandamonium, I'd expect the checksum to fail, then
[01:28] <gnomefreak> effer: gthumb
[01:28] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: 'sudo cat /etc/fstab | grep ntfs'
[01:29] <redguy> foo: well I'd play with the video card drivers then. Did you try fglrx ?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> effer: photo viewing apps are not all that light-weight scribus might be able to opne a photo never tried though
[01:29] <Shuvelhasser> k, what did that do?
[01:29] <pandamonium> sethk, i think the only thing really is a clean install and this time pay attention to what i'm messing with ;)
[01:29] <liquidten2> What about "eog".
[01:29] <foo> redguy: Hmm, nope. Just switch radeon with fglrx in the xorg.conf and restart X, right?
[01:29] <sethk> pandamonium, not a bad strategy
[01:29] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: just searching for a text string
[01:29] <redguy> foo: not really
[01:29] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: any output from this?
[01:29] <redguy> foo: you need a kernel module as well
[01:29] <effer> gnomefreak, gthumb is pretty good....i'd still like something a little more lite-weight....something that's only intention is to show the pic real quick....if i can't find anything else, gthumb will work...thanks :)
[01:29] <redguy> !fglrx > foo
[01:29] <Shuvelhasser> it didn't output any tezt, it just went to the next line
[01:29] <Shuvelhasser> text*
[01:30] <liquidten2> effer:  What about "eog"
[01:30] <pandamonium> sethk, i've learnt quite a lot from my first go so maybe with this extra knowledge i'll have a better chance of everything being how it should
[01:30] <hatch> Are the forums down?
[01:30] <redguy> !ntfs > Shuvelhasser
[01:30] <foo> redguy: # modprobe fglrx
[01:30] <foo> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:30] <redguy> !ntfs > nozorro
[01:30] <foo> redguy: hmm
[01:30] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok we could edit that file /etc/fstab but you have to be very careful there ...
[01:30] <sethk> pandamonium, ok, as I said, makes sense
[01:30] <Shuvelhasser> Redguy: lol, sadly that's true
[01:30] <Roh81> Sanne you still around?
[01:30] <effer> liquidten2, thanks!  that's perfect....fast, lite....perfect for what i need. :)
[01:30] <Sanne> Roh81: yep
[01:31] <redguy> Shuvelhasser: read the page ubotu sent you
[01:31] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: Of course, and I'd probly mess it up
[01:31] <Shuvelhasser> Redguy: when?
[01:31] <Roh81> Sanne: I did get one error
[01:31] <Roh81> WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[01:31] <Roh81> Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:31] <redguy> hmm?
[01:31] <redguy> !ntfs > redguy
[01:31] <Sanne> Roh81 which one?
[01:31] <hatch> Are the Ubuntu forums down?
[01:31] <Roh81> Its up there
[01:31] <redguy> Shuvelhasser: well 1 minute ago
[01:31] <Shuvelhasser> oh, I see it now
[01:32] <Shuvelhasser> >< sorry
[01:32] <Roh81> Sanne: I still need to get updates and all though. I dont guess there is a nifty fast way to grab them is there?
[01:32] <liquidten2> hatch: They won't load for me.
[01:32] <fourat> how to view MS Access *.mdb files in linux ?
[01:32] <hatch> Ok, atleast its not me
[01:32] <hatch> And I was just about to post something! ><
[01:32] <lownoma925> How would I go about mounting an IMG file?
[01:32] <Sanne> Roh81 the Warning I get also, should be harmless. I don't know about the Xlib error. Does it start?
[01:32] <Glench> what theme is this? http://getswiftfox.com/images/swiftfox.jpg a vista clone?
[01:32] <eff> liquidten2: me neither...
[01:33] <Roh81> Sanne: Yea ran fine. Well a little tiny bit sluggish but I didnt adjust the settings well. Just turned the res up. hehe
[01:33] <Sanne> Roh81 since this is not an ubuntu package, you would need to download and install updates yourself.
[01:33] <Shuvelhasser> well
[01:33] <Rafa_brz> fourat: you can use the openoffice!
[01:33] <Shuvelhasser> this leads me to my next problem
[01:33] <Roh81> Sanne: No biggy.
[01:33] <kelson> why does kdevelop not come up on my list of add/remove applications?
[01:33] <bb|Gishnob> gentoo 2006.1 has to have one of the worst installers ever
[01:33] <Rafa_brz> fourat: openoffice databse
[01:33] <Shuvelhasser> Mp3's and linux 101
[01:33] <redguy> fourat: mdbtools-gmdb seems to be able to do it
[01:33] <Sanne> Roh81 if it runs, I wouldn't worry about the errors. maybe try to search for the error message on Google on the forums, if you're curious ;)
[01:33] <pandamonium> i need to sort out what to backup... thanks for the advice
[01:34] <foo> redguy: Shouldn't the radeon drivers work? Hmm
[01:34] <Roh81> Sanne: Eh till I find something that doesnt work. Have you tried updating the demo?
[01:34] <Rafa_brz> fourat: there you can open .mdb files
[01:34] <fourat> ok
[01:34] <fourat> thx
[01:34] <Nightemptation> hello
[01:34] <Sanne> Roh81 no, can I do that? I thought the updates are only for the full version. I installed the latest demo, as far as I know.
[01:35] <linuchsan> fourat:mdbtools
[01:35] <Nightemptation> is anybody there?
[01:35] <redguy> foo: radeon drivers are not from ATI, they have been written by a bunch of hacers without any deocumentation from ATI whatsoever
[01:35] <liquidten2> Nightemptation: 817 people
[01:35] <Roh81> Sanne: Actually no. just checked. they didnt make demo patches
[01:35] <foo> redguy: eek, I didn't know that. Thanks. Hopefully this works.
 Nightemptation: 817 people--> plenty of , indeed
[01:35] <Rafa_brz> Nightemptation: I'm here :)
[01:35] <Roh81> Sanne: Its a classic game. You should just buy it. ;-}
[01:35] <zebedee> Good evening all :-)... I have a question re evolution mail. Dos anyone out there know how to multi delete or multi move msgs around? I have just spent ages individually moving 341 msgs, there must be an easier way?? Thanks in advance Z
[01:35] <Sanne> Roh81 thought so. Btw, while we speak, I can hear my sweety playing some serious onslaught ;)
[01:36] <kelson> does anybody know why kdevelop doesnt show on my add/remove applications?
 Nightemptation: I'm here :)---> brazilian?
[01:36] <Jamminpotato> how can i choose wheter linux uses my onboard sound or my soundcard?
[01:36] <Roh81> Sanne: I dont like onslaught. Too few vehicles and too many people.
[01:36] <sethk> kelson, are you using kde?
[01:36] <Rafa_brz> Nightemptation: yeah! how about you?
[01:36] <redguy> foo: on the other side fglrx is from ATI but tends to break on kernel upgrade since it is closed source binary-only black box
[01:36] <Roh81> Sanne: I like the assault mode and the mods made for the game.
[01:36] <Sanne> Roh81 we plan to buy it, as soon as we verified it runs fine on out computers. I just set up 3D and the demo on his new system today. Give us a few days ;)
[01:36] <kelson> mmmm i think so...ubuntu 6.06 on a 64 bit system if that helps any :/
[01:36] <redguy> foo: ATI video cards aren't the best choice for linux...
[01:36] <foo> redguy: I see.
 Nightemptation: yeah! how about you?--->tbm, cara tem restries delinguas aki? tipo...tem q ser in english?
[01:37] <sethk> kelson,  dumb question, but are you sure it is installed?
[01:37] <foo> redguy: Hm, I did the first section with sudo's and it seemed to work. I don't think I need to do anything else.
[01:37] <Azalyn> We can hope that AMD will opensource the ATI drivers. ;P
[01:37] <Roh81> Sanne: It is pretty scalable as far as system specs.
[01:37] <Sanne> Roh81 but I guess we are getting far too offtopic in this active channel...
[01:37] <Azalyn> Then ATI will be *THE* videocard choice for Linux...
[01:37] <redguy> Azalyn: true true
[01:37] <Roh81> Sanne: Oops.
[01:37] <kelson> kde? ill check now i suppose. as far as kdevelop it isnt installed because i cant get it to appear on any lists
[01:38] <foo> redguy: hm, that broke X. heh.
[01:38] <Sanne> Roh81 no worries :)
[01:38] <linuchsan> kelson:kdevelop3
[01:38] <sethk> kelson, kdevelop isn't installed with kde desktop
[01:38] <redguy> Azalyn: the more we will talk about how crappy ATI support for linux was the more the chance of opensourcing the drivers... ;-)
[01:38] <Shuvelhasser> hey redguy
[01:38] <kelson> i have searched for the phrase "kdevelop" and nothing comes up
[01:38] <Shuvelhasser> I ran that program
[01:38] <sethk> kelson, none of the development packages are, so likely all you need to do is install it, and presto, it appears on the menus  :)
[01:38] <sethk> kelson, searched where?  how?
[01:38] <foo> redguy: Can you pull up that page for how to set up flgrx and tell me if all I needed to do was the first part with the sudo's ... it was kind of confusing. I don't have X ATM.
[01:38] <Roh81> Sanne: I dont guess you know if the official ut packs are universal huh?
[01:38] <kelson> on package manager and on add/remove applications
[01:38] <Shuvelhasser> but now it just says that I don't have permission to view it
 Azalyn: the more we will talk about how crappy ATI support for linux was the more the chance of opensourcing the drivers... ;-)---> i have a huge pronlemwith a modemdriver
[01:38] <UB-Gast573> huuh
[01:38] <Sanne> Roh81 you mean also for linux?
[01:39] <sethk> kelson, run synaptic.
[01:39] <redguy> foo: sorry, give me a sec
[01:39] <sethk> kelson, as someone already said, it is kdevelop3, and also kdevelop3-doc
[01:39] <Roh81> Sanne: Yea but it doesnt look that way. Ill just find a third party one.
[01:39] <Azalyn> redguy: Hell, ATI support is even bad on Windows... nevermind Linux.
[01:39] <Azalyn> hehe
[01:39] <kelson> kk, looking now
[01:39] <Sanne> Roh81 wait!
[01:39] <sethk> kelson, if you search for kdevelop with the search function in synaptic, it comes up
[01:39] <Azalyn> Even before switching to Linux I recall hearing about ATI's horrible drivers.
[01:39] <foo> redguy: it's cool, thanks.
[01:39] <Azalyn> They've never been good with drivers period.
[01:40] <beatrix> http://www.btre.it/Ubuntu/ubuntu_nel_pc5.htm
[01:40] <Roh81> Sanne: Er okay
[01:40] <beatrix> notte
[01:40] <kelson> nah..nothing comes up for me. do i need to install a prereq for it?
[01:40] <sethk> kelson, no.  have you done:  sudo apt-get update    ?
[01:40] <redguy> foo: hmm did you edit xorg.conf as well?
[01:40] <kelson> yeah my system says it is up-to-date
[01:41] <Nightemptation> can i have a lil help with sm56 speakerphone modem from motorola here?
[01:41] <Sanne> Roh81  what about this one? It's from a linux gamer's site, so it should be compatible: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=29&lid=404
[01:41] <foo> redguy: No, I was under the impression that you only do that if the first part of sudo's didn't work. ... or do I need to do that?
[01:41] <Azalyn> I think AMD needs a bit more time though, considering how much they paid for ATI, they will be in debt for years. So they're a bit too much on shaky ground right now to make demands.
[01:41] <kelson> im a big linux noob lol :(
[01:41] <sethk> kelson, I just searched in synaptic (search pulldown set to name) and I get five hits on kdevelop
[01:41] <redguy> foo: i.e. changing "radeon" to "fglrx"
[01:41] <foo> redguy: hmm, /me does that
[01:41] <sethk> kelson, your repository list must be incomplete
[01:41] <smax> hi hang
[01:41] <Roh81> Actually there is some pack im supposed to get first. lets see if this is it
[01:41] <Sanne> Roh81 oh, the descriptopn says maybe for windows... I think I saw something lately, just a moment
[01:42] <Rafa_brz> Nightemptation: Did you try the ubuntu forum?
[01:42] <Nightemptation> nobody can help?
[01:42] <kelson> is that fixable?
[01:42] <Azalyn> But they've always been friendly with OpenSource, I imagine eventually they'll want to match Intel's move and release ATI's drivers. (Intel released the source for their own gpu drivers.. so yeah)
 Nightemptation: Did you try the ubuntu forum?--> yeah
[01:42] <clearzen> I have a simple question. Does checkinstall actually build a deb package if you run it after ./configure?
[01:42] <linuchsan> kelson:it is in universe
[01:42] <cafuego> clearzen: yes
[01:42] <smax> im having trouble getting a picture with xine or totem.  it just abruptly stopped.
[01:42] <applet> can anyone help me with a grub 17 error pls ?
[01:42] <sethk> Nightemptation, not a common piece of hardware, be patient, maybe someone will show up who knows about it
[01:42] <smax> i even rebooted.
[01:42] <phiber_optic> how do I install a tar.gz file?
[01:42] <Sanne> Roh81 http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=17
[01:42] <clearzen> that's what I thought thanks
[01:42] <redguy> Shuvelhasser: hmm, I seem to remeber thet the permissions issue was solved on that page as well
[01:42] <redguy> Shuvelhasser: wait a sec
[01:42] <foo> redguy: Do I need to do anything else?
[01:42] <benderU> smax: use vlc
[01:42] <liquidten2> clearzen: You are supposed to run checkinstall instead of make install.  Your install procedure would be, "./configure && make && checkinstall"
[01:42] <sethk> applet, what's the entire error message?
[01:43] <varsendaggr> how do i rip a DVD to divx?
 thnx, pal
[01:43] <gnomefreak> liquidten2: nope
[01:43] <smax> can vlc play dvd's ?
[01:43] <cafuego> liquidten2: sudo checkinstall
[01:43] <cafuego> smax: yes
[01:43] <redguy> foo: that sould do it
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ./configure && make && sudo make install or sudo checkinstall
[01:43] <smax> i play .avi  .wmv  .mpg dvds
[01:43] <linuchsan> varsendaggr:man mencoder
[01:43] <smax> ok
[01:43] <applet> dont know excatly cause can nay reboot at the mo
[01:43] <Roh81> Sanne: Shizamn.
[01:43] <applet> but roughly
[01:43] <applet> grub
[01:43] <Sanne> Roh81 hehe
[01:43] <applet> starting 1.5
[01:43] <applet> erro 17
[01:43] <phiber_optic> how do I install a tar.gz file?
[01:43] <varsendaggr> cafuego, can mplayer or xine play DVD's?
[01:43] <cafuego> varsendaggr: yes
[01:43] <redguy> foo: also 'If you receive a message Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the line load "dri" in Section "Module"'
[01:44] <nozorro> clearzen: but be careful, in my experience it doesn't always work out as expected
[01:44] <clearzen> I have had problems installing from source
[01:44] <coreymon77> hi
[01:44] <sethk> applet, I'll see if I can find anything useful on error 17.  the error message is always nice to have  :)
[01:44] <applet> this is pure madness I have played for hours lot of people have the prob no real answer
[01:44] <foo> redguy: gotcha, rebooting now. /etc/init.d/gdm start didn't bring it up.
[01:44] <Roh81> Sanne: Well thats all the irc spam I can take for a while. Thanks alot for the help.
[01:44] <applet> whoever said linux easy to install lied
[01:44] <varsendaggr> cafuego, wrong answer    mplaer and xine    cannot play DVD's
[01:44] <Lard-O-Lad> How does Ubuntu handle Intel's SpeedStep?  are there drivers/settings to edit?
[01:44] <clearzen> And I read several hotwto's on the net for building .deb packages but this seemed easier
[01:44] <Sanne> Roh81 one more: http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php?license=commercial
[01:44] <coreymon77> does anyone know about bonjour aka rendez-vous
[01:44] <linuchsan> varsendaggr: mplayer dvd://
[01:45] <coreymon77> its for printers
[01:45] <liquidten2> varsendaggr: mplayer and xine can BOTH play DVDs.  Xine even supports DVD menus.
[01:45] <Sanne> Roh81 for all your linux gaming needs :) Good luck and take care.
[01:45] <cafuego> varsendaggr: They do so just fine. Maybe they can't on your setup, but that's not _their_ problem.
[01:45] <applet> after the scsi error after the gfx error i am now error 17 error
[01:45] <liquidten2> I think Gstreamer can also play dvds
[01:45] <Lard-O-Lad> vlc plays dvds
[01:45] <varsendaggr> ak
[01:45] <linuchsan> an vlc
[01:45] <Roh81> Sanne: Same to you. Maybe Ill check back sometime and see if you and yours have upgraded to the real deal and we can play.
[01:45] <Naik0> Can i get info about my website in my own desklet im building now?
[01:45] <nozorro> clearzen: i had problems as well back in the day, imho it's useful for small apps and for the occasional build only, not for your complete GNOME installation
[01:45] <effer> how do i do this : i want to make a new command in console that will run another app...basically, i just want to have a new command that runs an already existing command, but with an easier-to-remember name
[01:46] <liquidten2> effer:  Make a symlink
[01:46] <Sanne> Roh81 oh that would be nice! Some serious fraggin! hehe... bye
[01:46] <liquidten2> effer:  "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/ORIGINALNAME /usr/bin/NEWNAME"
[01:46] <Naosz> !ubotu timeout values
[01:46] <liquidten2> As simple as that
[01:46] <applet> there is tons of shit on error 17 but I am trying to get my first ever linux unstall running so most is not useful
[01:46] <ubotu> timeout: Run a command with a time limit.. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11-6.2 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:46] <neutrinomass> !language > applet
[01:46] <applet> ?
[01:47] <clearzen> what would be the difference between a symlink and a alias?
[01:47] <neutrinomass> applet: It's not a personal issue, but this a family channel and language should be kept clean :)
[01:47] <effer> liquidten2, thanks!
[01:47] <cafuego> clearzen: nothing
[01:47] <foo> redguy: EE: No devices detected, No screens found ... hmmmm. Want me to get my xorg.conf in a pastebin for you?
[01:47] <clearzen> ok
[01:47] <applet> oh okay noted
[01:47] <liquidten2> clearzen: Symlinks are permanent, stay accros reboots and are applied to all users in all shells in all environments.  Aliases only apply to specific environments.
[01:47] <varsendaggr> !DVD
[01:47] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:47] <redguy> foo: yup, and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well
[01:48] <brian98> !mp3
[01:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <liquidten2> clearzen: basically it's no difference unless you have multi-user machines each with their own customized ~/.bashrc and such.
[01:48] <cafuego> liquidten2: I'm treating aliases as "MacOS X aliases" (ie: symlinks ;-)
[01:48] <phiber_optic> how do I install a tar.gz file?
[01:48] <Naik0> phiber_optic, tar -xvf
[01:49] <Naik0> that extract it
[01:49] <phiber_optic> Naik0, and then?
[01:49] <Naik0> and then it extract the files
[01:49] <linuchsan> phiber_optic: no -zxf
[01:49] <nozorro> clearzen: also, symlinks are on-disk like files, aliases are used in command shells
[01:49] <Naik0> -xvf works
[01:50] <nozorro> clearzen: ... in more practical terms ...
[01:50] <liquidten2> cafuego: A linux alias is probably the same.  For example.  Type in "alias lol='df -h'"  Every time you type in "lol" the command "df -h" is executed.  You couldn't easily do that with a symlink.
[01:50] <Fleebailey33> im having trouble with ipod on ubuntu. it was formated on os x. and i can't move files to it
[01:50] <liquidten2> cafuego: Actually you could simply just create a shell script and place it in /usr/bin instead
[01:50] <foo> redguy: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log
[01:51] <cafuego> liquidten2: No, an alias on OSX is a symlink (Although you _can_ alias stuff in the shell as well, like you describe)
[01:51] <tenebrous> phiber_optic: i suppose there's not a deb you can just use?
[01:51] <fredle> hmmpff.. airport extreme makes allot of dataloss with moments.. dapper ppc
[01:51] <phiber_optic> tenebrous, nop
[01:51] <Jamminpotato> when i try and run amaroK on my xubuntu install it says that dcopserver is not running and it shows the systray icon as its own windwo.. how can i fix this
[01:51] <sethk> applet, error 17 is cannot mount selected partition
[01:51] <applet> yip I got that much off google
[01:51] <cafuego> liquidten2: MacOS has always called symlinks aliases (even in Classic days). They never had a stupid system with shortcut files like Microsoft.  I didn't realise you meant shell aliases (They are not the same as symlinks, I know :-)
[01:52] <applet> where do I go from there to fix
[01:52] <Naik0> is it possible to make my gdesklet to pick information from my mysql db?
[01:52] <applet> I have messed with so many configs its insane
[01:52] <tenebrous> phiber_optic: should be a readme or INSTALL file in the archive with details on dependencies and install
[01:52] <sethk> applet, the most likely cause is that the configuration is wrong, either in menu.lst, or was wrong during grub-install
[01:52] <sethk> applet, we can look at your configuration
[01:52] <phiber_optic> tenebrous, ok
[01:52] <sethk> applet, I have to go for a bit, I'll ping you when I get back
[01:53] <applet> no no no dont go
[01:53] <redguy> foo: HMM
[01:53] <applet> I have been through 50 installs so far
[01:54] <applet> why has this thing got no noob start setting
[01:54] <redguy> foo: seems that fglrx doesn't support chipsets earlier than RV200 (which came with radeon 8500)
[01:54] <redguy> foo: seems you are stuck with the radeon driver :-)
[01:55] <clearzen> Does anyone know a good application set/OS for music production in linux?
[01:55] <sethk> applet, sorry, but I'll be back soon.
[01:55] <liquidten2> applet: It is a problem with your /boot/grub/menu.lst, which I cannot solve without knowing what menu.lst actually contains
[01:55] <applet> i would just be happy to at least get up and running then I could rock and rule the worlds
[01:55] <redguy> foo: seems that my diagnosis was not correct, sorry
[01:56] <applet> well as far as I can tell liquidten2 it is correct
[01:56] <redguy> foo: do you have your old xorg.conf file somewhere?
[01:56] <Sanne> clearzen: for ubuntu, you might want to have a look at ubuntustudio.com
[01:56] <foo> redguy: Hm, no. Did those sudo command's I ran make a backup?
[01:57] <applet> how do I show u my menu.lst liquidten2
[01:57] <clearzen> ok...is ubuntustudio a live cd?
[01:57] <Sanne> clearzen: no, just a wiki with info on how to set up things. There's also a section on the forums for discussion.
[01:58] <redguy> foo: not sure
[01:58] <foo> redguy: bah. I'm heading out. I'll fix this later. Thanks anyways.
[01:58] <redguy> foo: sorry for the breakage
[01:58] <Sanne> clearzen: for more and probably better info, you might also want to check out #lad here on freenode (linux audio devs/users)
[01:59] <Sanne> clearzen: and also http://www.linux-sound.org/
[02:01] <Shuvelhasser> so apparently I fail at packages
[02:01] <Shuvelhasser> what does this error mean "E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 34 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:01] <Shuvelhasser> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:01] <Shuvelhasser> "
[02:02] <gnomefreak> Shuvelhasser: on line 34 of the /etc/apt/sources.list you have the word sudo
[02:02] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: that means that /etc/apt/sources.list contains a line that has the word "sudo" in it, which shouldn't be there.  Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and delete Sudo out of line 34.
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Shuvelhasser: sudo doesnt belong in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <Shuvelhasser> All: ..how?
[02:04] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: "nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  then from there go to line 34, delete sudo, press control+x, choose yes to save, then run apt-get update.
[02:04] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:04] <liquidten2> Shuvelhasser: or rather SUDO nano /etc/apt/sources.list  (i am not an ubuntu user <_<)
[02:06] <phiber_optic> what is the equivalent of gdesklets in gnome?
[02:06] <phiber_optic> in KDE
[02:06] <felixhcat> dunno
[02:06] <phiber_optic> myb ad
[02:06] <liquidten2> phiber_optic: gdesklets can be used in Gnome/kde/anything
[02:06] <phiber_optic> ok
[02:06] <Shuvelhasser> yay
[02:06] <Shuvelhasser> no more errors when I open the package manager
[02:13] <Shuvelhasser> woooooo!
[02:13] <Shuvelhasser> I'm playing mp3's
[02:13] <Shuvelhasser> I'm proud of myself
[02:13] <overridden> cool
[02:13] <overridden> :)
[02:13] <holly_> I was upgrading to dapper and am getting exit status 10 from lvm2 preinst script.  Any ideas how to fix that?  I'm not sure what's causing it, and am not using lvm at all.
[02:13] <fredle> errrr..   good for you.. :-)
[02:13] <Shuvelhasser> concidering
[02:13] <Shuvelhasser> I don't know how to do anything
[02:13] <jazzrocker> anyone know if Ubuntu has pthreads?
[02:13] <Shuvelhasser> this is like omg god of computers for my level of linux knowledge
[02:14] <jazzrocker> and or where can I look to check that it has pthreads?
[02:14] <overridden> man -k threads
[02:14] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: nice to see one happy guy
[02:15] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: Now, I need to figure out how to access my HD without having to type "sudo /usr/bin/nautilus /tmp/disks-conf-sda1" everytime
[02:16] <Shuvelhasser> anyone think they can help with that?
[02:16] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: i need to read up myself on how ubuntu handles this ... not in the old linux way anymore i think
[02:16] <Shuvelhasser> redguy you said something about it being on the guide but I didn't see it
[02:16] <Roh81> Sanne: Just tried to run ut2004 again... Got an error.
[02:16] <fredle> err /etc/fstab
[02:16] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: also you said you are wary on editing that file didn't you
[02:17] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: I'm wary in that, I'd rather not break my HD, but I wouldn't terribly mind losing the information. It would suck, but it's a learning thing.
[02:17] <fredle> I think /etc/fstab will still have more effect then the kde/gnome way
[02:18] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: read it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:18] <Shuvelhasser> I was reading that
[02:18] <Shuvelhasser> and I did it
[02:19] <Shuvelhasser> because they're mounted now
[02:19] <Shuvelhasser> I just don't have permission o0
[02:19] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: can you *read* those files on ntfs?
[02:19] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: I can if I put in "sudo /usr/bin/nautilus /tmp/disks-conf-sda1"
[02:20] <Shuvelhasser> but if I try and just click on the drive in the computer menu
[02:20] <Shuvelhasser> it says I don't have access
[02:20] <Shuvelhasser> so, I'm guessing it's trying to goto the wrong partition?
[02:20] <kalleth> i'm trying to install a program from its source download on a new install of ubuntu but i can't seem to - whenever i try and run a ./configure on it i get an error saying "C Compiler cannot create executables"
[02:20] <kalleth> heeelp!
[02:20] <cafuego> kalleth: Hint: Install a compiler.
[02:20] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: no, it's something in ubuntu's innards i'm not aware of right now ...
[02:21] <kalleth> caf: i installed gcc as far as i know
[02:21] <kalleth> (sudo apt-get install gcc'
[02:21] <cafuego> kalleth: Which program is it, btw?
[02:21] <kalleth> a different version of opendchub which doesn't mess up when you try and connect to it with the latest DC++
[02:21] <Shuvelhasser> Can't I make an icon or something that does "sudo /usr/bin/nautilus /tmp/disks-conf-sda1" for me for now?
[02:21] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: but it's probably not the system trying to get to the wrong partition, unless you messed with the config already ...
[02:21] <Shuvelhasser> xD
[02:22] <kalleth> (http://darkbot.ir.pl/ <- that one)
[02:22] <Shuvelhasser> I didn't mess withanything
[02:22] <Shuvelhasser> D:
[02:22] <cafuego> kalleth: 'install 'build-essential'
[02:22] <Shuvelhasser> I only did what you told me
[02:22] <kalleth> thanks caf
[02:22] <kalleth> let's give that a go
[02:23] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[02:23] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: could you do a 'cat /etc/fstab | grep sda1' in a terminal ?
[02:23] <Shuvelhasser> maybe
[02:23] <Shuvelhasser> why?
[02:23] <viator> what music service has as much choice as itunes but offers plain mp3's
[02:23] <shoeunited> I have a problem understanding something.  If the same problems exist between cedega and wine, why do people pay for cedega?
[02:24] <EnsignRedshirt> Any idea why a totem would pop up a message saying something like "The disc seems to be encrypted" when it has already played a movie for 20 minutes?
[02:24] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: we're just checking for a text string again ...
[02:24] <redblades> Hi all!
[02:24] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: So you're telling me to run it?
[02:24] <viator> EnsignRedshirt have libdvdcss2?
[02:24] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: hmm well yes
[02:25] <redblades> I have an XBOX (not 360) and I heard that it's possible to run it as a server.
[02:25] <redblades> Is this true? And if so, how might I do it?
[02:25] <Shuvelhasser> oh, I thought it said "Did you"
[02:25] <Shuvelhasser> ><
[02:25] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: there's nothing to it, but you decide of course
[02:25] <applet> read google gentoox
[02:25] <|thunder> EnsignRedshirt, it means that the disc uses multiple css keys. i was able to break one or some of them,, but not all.
[02:25] <HesNikke> holy crap! 799 users!
[02:25] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: so you get no output?
[02:26] <shoeunited> redblades: I that involves illegal means, but yes it can be done.
[02:26] <HesNikke> um... i have just installed ubuntu
[02:26] <redblades> HesNikke, is that unusual?
[02:26] <HesNikke> i'm not usualy on such a huge channel thats all
[02:26] <applet> u either need chop or softmod and I dont think it is illegal
[02:26] <redblades> shoeunited, I'm not worried about laws that I may violate.
[02:26] <viator> its not illegal
[02:26] <EnsignRedshirt> viator: Yes, I have libdvdcss2 (version 1.2.5-1).
[02:26] <applet> *chip
[02:26] <viator> to put linux on the xbox
[02:26] <Jamminpotato> what does everyone here use to manage their ipod's in linux?
[02:26] <tenebrous> http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[02:27] <shoeunited> There's only one xbox model that i can think of that can do it legally grey aread.
[02:27] <Shuvelhasser> it goes to the next line
[02:27] <redblades> But, to run it as a server? And what about a keyboard?
[02:27] <|thunder> hey everyone, I just bought a wireless USb mouse and keyboard. It is super sensitive. When I change the settings in system/Mouse it does not seems to affect the mouse at all. Any ideas ?
[02:27] <Shuvelhasser> but doesn't say anything
[02:27] <HesNikke> so i'm trying to take the newbie route with ubuntu (plus i'm stoned so i can't think in linux) so.... how do i get file sharing to work
[02:27] <viator> i put the rockbox firmware on my ipod
[02:27] <applet> usb redblades or un it as a box from ur router
[02:27] <viator> but
[02:27] <HesNikke> i would prefere appleshare, but i didn't see a netatalk package
[02:27] <HesNikke> so... with samba
[02:27] <viator> im looking for a music store that has a large choice
[02:27] <viator> of mp3's
[02:27] <shoeunited> You have to modify the xbox, which kinda violates terms of use.
[02:27] <HesNikke> my clients are running OS X
[02:27] <viator> none of that wiondows media crap
[02:27] <redblades> applet, my mouse and keyboard are USB -  where do I plug them in?
[02:28] <EnsignRedshirt> |thunder, viator: The wierd thing is, if I use the control to skip a little bit past the point where I get the error, I can often watch the rest of the movie.
[02:28] <HesNikke> i try to log in, and it doesn't work
[02:28] <applet> yes but it not illegal
[02:28] <applet> if u must plug a keyboard into xbox u get a usb adapter
[02:28] <|thunder> EnsignRedshirt, that is strange.
[02:28] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: i could guide you through editing /etc/fstab, but you'd rather be careful ... or you read up on that page, i'll show you where exactly
[02:28] <maomao> Does anyone have problem with movieplayer?
[02:28] <redblades> applet - from where? ARe they hard to come by?
[02:29] <HesNikke> so os x sees my ubuntu box
[02:29] <applet> lol in no way google
[02:29] <Jamminpotato> what does everyone here use to manage their ipod's in linux?
[02:29] <EnsignRedshirt> applet: You could save even more key strokes if you wrote "in2" instead of "into" :)
[02:29] <HesNikke> but it tries to log in, and it fails
[02:29] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: Sounds good to me.
[02:29] <viator> maomao what problems
[02:29] <tenebrous> Jamminpotato: gtkpod
[02:29] <applet> lol irc slang cathes
[02:29] <redblades> maomao - You do, clearly. SO tell us what's wrong.
[02:29] <markrian> viator: try allofmp3.com
[02:30] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: it's all on that web page as i said, but if you want to do it now, first thing is to make a backup of /etc/fstab
[02:30] <applet> mod it and connect ot ur pc
[02:30] <Jamminpotato> tenebrous, thanks
[02:30] <Shuvelhasser> Nozorro: How? (That's not a good start, is it? xD)
[02:30] <applet> if you get a grub 17 and solve it tell me
[02:31] <HesNikke> so has anyone else had any issues getting OS X to connect to a smb share to ubuntu?
[02:31] <Shuvelhasser> speaking of grub 17
[02:31] <HesNikke> OS X uses samba too
[02:31] <Shuvelhasser> my friends HD is dying
[02:31] <applet> yes yes yes
[02:31] <HesNikke> but has it's own UI
[02:31] <Shuvelhasser> from the same error
[02:31] <hiro_p> heya peoples, I'm frustrated. I can't get my ipw2200 card to connect to a wep encrypted ap. the card is up and running, I can connect to a unencrypted ap. can anybody help me?
[02:31] <HesNikke> the UI isn't giving me an error :\
[02:31] <boga> what player will play mms:// streams in Ubuntu?
[02:31] <nozorro> Shuvel first open admin shell: 'gksu gnome-terminal'
[02:31] <maomao> I need help on movie player
[02:31] <Shuvelhasser> that and 22, which from what I read are just general errors
[02:31] <applet> I hope mine is not
[02:31] <applet> I just wanna dam linux
[02:31] <sethk> applet, I'm back
[02:31] <maomao> I couldn't play certain avis.
[02:31] <applet> not dead hd
[02:32] <applet> woohoo sethk
[02:32] <maomao> do I miss something?
[02:32] <EnsignRedshirt> viator, |thunder: Is there a newer version of libdvdcss out there somewhere that might do a better job?
[02:32] <|thunder> EnsignRedshirt, libdvdcss2
[02:32] <EnsignRedshirt> |thunder: That's what I meant--a newer version of libdvdcss2.
[02:32] <viator> theres somthing similar to lidvdcss2 in the repos i forget what its called does the same thing though
[02:33] <|thunder> EnsignRedshirt, not that I know of.
[02:33] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok, it's open
[02:33] <applet> sethk, ?
[02:34] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: now this: 'cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup'
[02:34] <medic30420> hi all, i am another noob at linux and need help
[02:34] <markrian> maomao: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[02:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Very frustrating... I might have to break down and by a regular DVD player instead of using the computer.
[02:34] <viator> oh
[02:34] <viator> libdvdread3
[02:34] <viator> is what its called?
[02:34] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Should it of just shot down to the next line?
[02:34] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt: what's happening with libdvdcss for you?
[02:35] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: yep, this just created the backup.
[02:35] <medic30420> i have ubuntu installed on my laptop with very little hassle, but my desktop is hanging at installation
[02:35] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: K, now what
[02:35] <kalleth> i'm trying to get this package installed - thanks for your help cafuego - but i'm getting another error after i configure now when i try make - "/usr/bin/ld : cannot find -lperl"
[02:35] <kalleth> any ideas?
[02:35] <medic30420> i have a 2.4GHz w/ 256RAM, i think the live CD is taking up too much memory
[02:35] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: I often get messages from totem saying the the disc appears to be encrypted.  The message often pops up after I've been watching the DVD for a while.
[02:36] <sethk> kalleth, you need to install the perl development packages
[02:36] <cynical> medic30420: the livecd will work fine as long as you have 192MB of memory
[02:36] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: from the admin terminal again: 'gedit /etc/fstab'. Just Look at that file a bit, how it is organized, spaces and tabs etc.
[02:36] <cynical> medic30420: where does it hang?
[02:36] <kalleth> sethk: OK, cheers :) first time using linux properly i'm afraid
[02:36] <medic30420> this is wierd, after the OS boots
[02:36] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[02:36] <kalleth> do they have a package name? perl-dev or something?
[02:36] <medic30420> if you click on anything it takes a very long time
[02:36] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok
[02:36] <wubrgamer> is there any way that i can verbatim copy a dvd ?
[02:36] <kalleth> (is there anywhere i can find a list of the packages in the 'Universe' tree so i can search them myself?)
[02:37] <wubrgamer> can k3b do it ?
[02:37] <medic30420> over an hour to get to the timezone screen
[02:37] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt: are you using totem-xine? Which version of libdvdcss do you have? I have 1.2.9 and I've not had any problems.
[02:37] <exs> Hey, any of you guys know of a type helper?. I want to learn to type with all my fingers with the qwerty keyboard.
[02:37] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: now pls look again that there's no reference alredy to that partition anything with sda1 and ntfs in it
[02:37] <medic30420> cynical - i have switched CD's, CD Drives, done a memtest, no changes
[02:37] <exs> I know there was a tutorial program on windows, but wondering if theres a typing tutor on ubuntu
[02:38] <cynical> medic30420: wow thats odd
[02:38] <SAM_theman> you my dad is on ubuntu 5.10 and hes stuck on firefox 1.0.8 he wants the newer one
[02:38] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: I'm using totem-xine, and libdvdcss2 version 1.2.5-1.  I'm using breezy.
[02:38] <medic30420> very strange, i think it is a hardware problem
[02:38] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: The diskmounter utility mounted them "#Added by diskmounter utility
[02:38] <Shuvelhasser> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[02:38] <Shuvelhasser> #Added by diskmounter utility
[02:38] <Shuvelhasser> /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0"
[02:38] <SAM_theman> and he can update to 1.5.0-6 because the update button on ubutnu 5.10's firefox is greyed out
[02:38] <viator> gstreamer sucks
[02:38] <Jamminpotato> viator, how swo
[02:38] <applet> exs,  mavis beacon
[02:38] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt:  You say that you get the error after watching the DVD for a while? Because that sounds like the drive is having trouble reading the disc
[02:39] <markrian> As in, it's damaged
[02:39] <viator> cause it never works
[02:39] <viator> correctly
[02:39] <Jamminpotato> viator, it works fine for me
[02:39] <viator> even with all the ugly bad
[02:39] <viator> etc
[02:39] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok, but please don't paste like this, first let me have a look
[02:39] <SAM_theman> well??
[02:39] <viator> plugins
[02:39] <Jamminpotato> viator, what else would you use
[02:39] <Jamminpotato> xine?
[02:39] <medic30420> cynical, is their an automatic installation that i can download? I think once i get linux inside my box everything will be ok
[02:39] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Ok, sorry.
[02:39] <viator> totem-xine
[02:39] <viator> with the firefox plugin
[02:39] <applet> no there is  not medic30420
[02:39] <cynical> medic30420: have you tried the alternative cd?
[02:40] <viator> the gstreamer firefox plugin dont work either
[02:40] <|thunder> why do I not havwe this file? "/etc/X11/XF86Config" Is this supposed to be a reference to xorg.conf?
[02:40] <cynical> medic30420: comes with a text-based installer so it shouldnt have the slowdown issues
[02:40] <applet> its a nightmare
[02:40] <medic30420> oooo, that is what i need
[02:40] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: Yes, sometimes half-way through the movie, an error message pops up.  The strange thing is, if I use the controls to skip ahead of that point before the error occurs, I can sometimes watch the rest of the movie.
[02:40] <SAM_theman> ubotu, firefox
[02:40] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:40] <viator> with that plugin and a hack i can play any video and even alot of the flash apps on ebaums
[02:40] <viator> in firefox
[02:41] <cynical> medic30420: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/
[02:41] <eyequeuelive> medic30420: i wasn't watching your situation, but alternative cd also has a lowmem option, if that helps
[02:41] <viator> even inbedded video works fine
[02:41] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt: given that I'd almost guarantee that the disc has a scratch  on it that your drive can't correct/see through properly
[02:41] <Harksaw> ok, question. I had no trouble playing one DVD (Enron: The Smartest Guys In The Room) on mplayer in ubuntu dapper 64, but can't play Traffic or JFK, it tells me "failed to open dvd://1" Any ideas?
[02:41] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: pls wait me out, still studying the output
[02:41] <viator> im playing flash 9 apps
[02:41] <medic30420> thanks cynical and eyeQ
[02:41] <viator> in linux
[02:41] <kalleth> sethk: what are the perl development packages called so i can install them?
[02:41] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I got all the time you need.
[02:41] <viator> with a little hack i found
[02:41] <medic30420> i will see if this works
[02:41] <cynical> medic30420, np
[02:41] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt: you should consider cleaning them/and or your drive's lens
[02:41] <viator> no wine or any of that crap
[02:42] <viator> just tricks them into thinking you have 9 basically
[02:42] <viator> i can show you hwo
[02:42] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: Hmmm... that could be, I guess. Now that I think about it, it has occurred more frequently with rented DVDs.
[02:42] <sethk> kalleth, run synaptic, use the search function, select name in the pulldown, and search for   perl dev   (that's perl space dev)
[02:42] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: you're listening now?
[02:43] <kalleth> cool - thanks
[02:43] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt: there is a more up-to-date libdvdcss available which you could install anyway, but I don't think it'd fix your problems
[02:43] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ya
[02:43] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: Any pointers to how to clean the drive's lens?
[02:43] <SAM_theman> Danka
[02:43] <Shuvelhasser> steel wool
[02:43] <viator> lol
[02:43] <Lard-O-Lad> what is a good light weight torrent client for ubuntu? (i've been using utorrent+wine but it isnt working out)
[02:44] <EnsignRedshirt> Shuvelhasser: I think I have a rasp in my tool box...
[02:44] <viator> bittoreent isd built itn
[02:44] <viator> alrerady
[02:44] <Rug> Howdy all
[02:44] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt: yup, you can buy a special type of disc with a small brush on it. You'd also get some cleaning fluid to put on the brush. Stick that in your drive and that's it cleaned
[02:44] <mordof> does anyone know of a program that can tell me if ubuntu is using both my cores properly?
[02:44] <Shuvelhasser> Bittorent is?
[02:44] <viator> as far as i know it was
[02:44] <markrian> EnsignRedshirt: It's unlikely the lens is dirty though - almost certainly the disks are the problem
[02:44] <viator> cause i didnt install it
[02:44] <viator> and its there
[02:44] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: hmm well, the partition is there with a correct line ...
[02:45] <Rug> mordof: just use:  top     or cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:45] <viator> anyone else confirm?
[02:45] <Lard-O-Lad> yea i can
[02:45] <viator> ill have to look at the laptop
[02:45] <mordof> i don't know how to read top to see that info
[02:45] <mordof> what do i look for
[02:45] <viator> to confirm
[02:45] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: no idea atm why it doesn't work for you, lemme look adn search a bit ...
[02:45] <phiber_optic> how can I add an application to the kde destop?
[02:45] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok, thank you.
[02:45] <Lard-O-Lad> how is th edefault bt client on ubuntu, i didnt use it cause it looks so small :)
[02:45] <viator> right click
[02:45] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: Well, I have one right here that I just tried to play, and it hung up at the menu...
[02:45] <viator> create launcher
[02:45] <viator> or whatever
[02:46] <viator> or drag and drop it
[02:46] <viator> f its on the list
[02:46] <Rug> cpuinfo is better, but under top:  third line down, you should see 2 sets of CPU %'s
[02:46] <Lard-O-Lad> no, i mean how is it performance wise?
[02:46] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: Good call... this disk doesn't look too pretty.
[02:46] <rofl0r> is there sumthin like calc.exe on linux ?
[02:46] <Lard-O-Lad> Applications>Accessories>Calculator
[02:46] <Rug> rofl0r: LOTS...    bc  at the command line
[02:47] <viator> dvds seem to work better if you have 3d video acceleration
[02:47] <rofl0r> k, thx
[02:47] <viator> means your using the proper ati or nvidia driver etc
[02:47] <Shuvelhasser> so the bittorrent folder is empty
[02:47] <Shuvelhasser> haha
[02:47] <fredle> no dri for ati 9600 ppc? :(
[02:48] <fredle> pain
[02:48] <Rug> to test to see if you are using the full power of your video card type this in a term window:   glxinfo |grep direct
[02:49] <rofl0r> i have 512 mb of ram, linux tells me i got 503... whats wrong ? (there is no shared raphics mem)
[02:49] <viator> or see if glxgears runs corectly
[02:49] <viator> smoothly
[02:49] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: the only sensible change that we could make atm is to tell the system to mount (make accessible) the partition at boot time ... not sure whether that would fix your problem
[02:49] <Rug> viator: glxgears is not dependable
[02:49] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Wanna try it?
[02:50] <DarkDread_> how i write GRub in the MBR???
[02:50] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: well, i think we can't go wrong here. but first i've got another question ....
[02:50] <fredle> I know how to see that, it's just..  pain that I won't get dri on that card
[02:50] <viator> ya dont want mesa or vesa
[02:50] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I'll do my best to answer.
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> hey, I need help bad, I tried to install Ubuntu, and when I rebooted, and tried to boot gentoo, it said that hdc1 was corrupted or something like that, now I can't boot into my windows install. can someone please help?!
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> lol
[02:50] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: you seem to have another ntfs partition there, sdb2
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> I mean ubuntu****
[02:50] <linuxcrazy> not gentoo
[02:51] <fredle> if I could..  I wanted mesa..  ppc..
[02:51] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: that's what the file says
[02:51] <linuxcrazy> help me please
[02:51] <DarkDread_> Which the channel of Ubuntu Brazil
[02:51] <DarkDread_> ??
[02:51] <dankmiser> easy question, NTFS write in ubuntu (yes, ntfs write is not 100%)
[02:51] <viator> bb
[02:51] <Rug> dankmiser: What is the question?
[02:52] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: so does that second work or not?
[02:52] <dankmiser> how do I enable ntfs write in ubuntu?
[02:52] <Rug> !ntfs
[02:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:52] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: The info I gave was just for the second hard drive, which should only have the 2 partitions on it. I've been accessing the one from windows side, so that might be the one I'm on now you're talking about.
[02:53] <dankmiser> thx
[02:53] <fredle> what does transparant ntfs support mean?
[02:53] <BigToe> guys, archive manager doesn't open rar's anymore, what?
[02:53] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: Yup, diry disc appears to be the problem.  I wiped the disk with a damp tissue, and was able to get past the menu on the movie that just gave me an error.  I guess I should have checked that first...
[02:53] <Rug> BigToe: have you d'loaded rar support?
[02:53] <EnsignRedshirt> s/diry/dirty/
[02:54] <BigToe> I thought it came with it Rug
[02:54] <BigToe> how do I download rar support?
[02:54] <BigToe> apt-get?
[02:54] <Rug> no, if you have all the repos enabled, apt-get install rar
[02:54] <dankmiser> !fuse
[02:54] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:54] <Rug> !rar
[02:54] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:54] <BigToe> ah, thanks :D
[02:54] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: could we pls disable that second one. we just put something in front of of (a #). Deleting the # later on would make it possible to re-enable it. We want to make sure that there arent any non-existing partitions. You understand?
[02:55] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: the # in front of the line corresponding to /dev/sdb2 i meant
[02:55] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: That wont mess up ubuntu though, will it?
[02:55] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: and # is like ; in html, I guess. Kinda like commenting it out?
[02:56] <EnsignRedshirt> markrian: Thanks for the tips.  I hope the rest of scratches and gunk on the disc don't cause more problems.  Lawrence of Arabia calls... ciao.
[02:56] <markrian> np
[02:56] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: it won't do any harm because it's a windows partition on which ubuntu doesn't rely, only you won't be able to access it after next reboot (but can re-enable it) -- anyway you appeared not to miss it right now
[02:57] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: yeah, commenting out
[02:57] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Isn't it what I'm running off of? Partition 1 is what the other info is on, not what I'm running on. Right?
[02:58] <BigToe> Rug, how do I open a passworded rar?
[02:58] <BigToe> do I have to use the CLI for that?
[02:58] <Shuvelhasser> with a password
[02:58] <Rug> BigToe: Do you know the pass?
[02:58] <BigToe> mhm
[02:58] <Dev05> Hi! I was wanting to upgrade to Edgy to see what's coming up. Is it stable enough or crashes too often?
[02:58] <BigToe> it just gave an error, I expected a password box to popup :S
[02:59] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ubuntu won't run off an nfts partition
[02:59] <mordof> Rug, i only see one set
[02:59] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: it will change from hour to hour
[02:59] <mordof> but i'm on a core duo...
[02:59] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Ok, I'll comment it out and save the file?
[02:59] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: the most important ones ware those with linux-specific file systems on them
[02:59] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: it od not behaving well for me presently, black screen on boot
[02:59] <mordof> it's either got HT or dual core, afaik it's dual core
[02:59] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: s/od/is/
[02:59] <davidf> hi
[03:00] <Rug> BigToe: goto a term window and work from there.   rar x -pPASSWORD file.rar
[03:00] <Dev05> eyequeuelive, What does that mean?
[03:00] <BigToe> thanks
[03:00] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: pls comment out the line referring to the second ntfs part., but putting a hash in front of the line, don't save yet
[03:00] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: it goes black and locks up
[03:00] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok, done
[03:00] <Rug> mordof: goto a term window and type uname -r
[03:00] <Dev05> eyequeuelive, Well, I guess I better stay in Dapper :D ...
[03:01] <mordof> i just downloaded dapper a few days ago
[03:01] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: i suspect it all depends what hardware you have, like for example the dapper x bug never bit me, but this one does, oh well
[03:01] <Rug> I don't care.  I need to see what kernel you are using
[03:01] <davidf> I have a problem accessing the floppy drive - can someone help a newb?
[03:01] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok, just to make sure, which partition lists the '/' in the 'mount point' column? -- that is the one you're running ubuntu off
[03:01] <dannylapt> how do you mount a USB jumpdrive in ubuntu (using the cli)?
[03:02] <Dev05> eyequeuelive, It did blow my system.
[03:02] <mordof> hmm
[03:02] <mordof> 2.6.15-26-386
[03:02] <SuperSkunk> does anyone know how to fix the dvd burning issues in dapper?
[03:02] <SuperSkunk> having growisofs i/o errors
[03:02] <Rug> mordof: You are not using an SMP kerenl.
[03:02] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I think it's the one I just commented out, which makes no sense
[03:02] <mordof> what's an SMP kernel? and how do i update to one
[03:02] <SuperSkunk> cant find anything on ubuntuforums.org that resolves the issue
[03:02] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: yeah, similar hardware-specific disasters are likely in the development version
[03:03] <Rug> mordof: yuo should install this kernel:   2.6.15-26-686
[03:03] <DarkDread_> how i write GRub in the MBR???
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[03:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:04] <casey_> !edgy
[03:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:04] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: yep it doesnt make sense, i'm totally puzzled --  maybe it was because of your pasting. use pastebin to paste the complete file please
[03:04] <Rug> !kernel
[03:04] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:04] <Naik0> Is it possible to make an desklet and make it gets information from mysql database?
[03:04] <nozorro> !pastebin > Shuvelhasser
[03:04] <Dev05> eyequeuelive, I see. Well, I'll stay here then. Thanks!
[03:04] <eyequeuelive> SuperSkunk: someone just said he fixed the dvd issues, so maybe wait 24h for it?  (i'm not sure if that was edgy though, come to think of it)
[03:04] <benderU> !irssi
[03:04] <ubotu> IRSSI is a command line interface IRC application ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[03:04] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: sure thing
[03:04] <SuperSkunk> eyequeuelive:: so edgy has the same issue?
[03:04] <Dev05> eyequeuelive, I was quite excited about the faster shut-down, hehe.
[03:04] <Rug> mordof: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 linux-image-2.6.15-26-686
[03:05] <Rug> Dev05: fast shut-downs are easy.  It's the fast startups that are a bitch
[03:05] <Dev05> Rug, lol
[03:05] <Harksaw> To answer my own question, three cheers for the Penguin Liberation Front
[03:06] <Rug> Harksaw: yes
[03:06] <eyequeuelive> SuperSkunk: it would not suprise me if so, at least
[03:06] <Shuvelhasser> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22485
[03:06] <Dev05> Rug, I wonder when Pre-Fetch technologies will get implemented on Linux.
[03:06] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: heh
[03:06] <SuperSkunk> gosh
[03:06] <SuperSkunk> im stuck in a hard spot because of this..
[03:06] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok, now lemme have a close look again
[03:07] <Rug> Dev05: prefetch is only part of the answer.  More parallel CPU's is the key
[03:07] <eyequeuelive> SuperSkunk: anything new is based on the previous code, typically ... also, patches to new things tend to be backported if broken on the old (like kernels)
[03:07] <SuperSkunk> eyequeuelive:: i know these things
[03:08] <SuperSkunk> just dont get why the freakin dvd burner doesnt work for ISO images.. but i can burn divx/movies, or normal data dvds
[03:08] <Dev05> Rug, Well, I have a single-core non-HT CPU and Windows XP boots in 5 secs. Ubuntu takes like 40 secs.
[03:08] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: no prob i think, look again pls. i think you have confused sda2 and sdb2 ...
[03:08] <SuperSkunk> heck i can even burn nrg files
[03:08] <Rug> Dev05: do what I do:  Never shut it off
[03:08] <SuperSkunk> just not .iso
[03:08] <Crippy-Boy> 5 secs, does it even get to POST in 5 sec?
[03:08] <Dev05> Rug, Too much electricity waste.
[03:08] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: mine takes much longer :/  but i also run a number of daemons that many do not
[03:08] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Ah, you're right. This is still a bumble of letters for me. Sorry.
[03:09] <Rug> Bah, burn a tree
[03:09] <Rug> =)
[03:09] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: or maybe *I* have confused them
[03:09] <Dev05> Crippy-Boy, I mean, after I choose the OS.
[03:09] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: turn the monitor off, that's what chews juice, heh
[03:09] <Crippy-Boy> If you don't like it taking so much why dont you remove some of the crap from start up?
[03:09] <Rug> I have no less then 5 servers going at one time here, plus as many as 4 PC's depending on how busy I am.  My Electricy bill each month:  approx. $150
[03:09] <Dev05> eyequeuelive, The problem is that my PC is next to my bed and makes too much noise.
[03:10] <Dev05> Rug, Talking about natural resources, not money ;) .
[03:10] <sethk> Dev05, xp doesn't boot from a cold start that quickly, only from a power save state
[03:10] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: sda2 is sacrosanct, it musn't be changed at all
[03:10] <Crippy-Boy> Theres plenty you can do to speed up the ubuntu start up :-)
[03:11] <Dev05> sethk, Try it on a 7200RPM HD and you'll see (attention, I don't have too much crap on it).
[03:11] <shoeunited> XP takes forever to cold start on my system.
[03:11] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: been there done that, no solution for noisy fans/drives ... i did learn to accept it as white noise though, but that's just me, not wife :(
[03:11] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok
[03:11] <sethk> Dev05, I have tried it, with 15000 rpm.  I know exactly how long it takes
[03:11] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: sdb2 can be commented out for now, maybe it doesn't even exist, thus causing problems
[03:11] <Rug> Try long cables and the PC in the closet
[03:11] <sethk> Dev05, the drive rpm doesn't have anything like the impact you are implying.
[03:11] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Well that'd be a damn shame. Now, what's the next step?
[03:11] <sethk> 7200 is more or less standard these days anyway
[03:12] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: maybe you have just deleted sdb2 from windows?
[03:12] <Dev05> sethk, I don't know, mine takes that time.
[03:12] <sethk> Dev05, no, not from a cold start.  it takes longer than that just to go through the bios startup
[03:12] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I don't remember deleting it.
[03:12] <eyequeuelive> sethk: i found the biggest "culprit" in terms of drive noise was brand (always old "discard" drives with my budget)
[03:12] <Crippy-Boy> I dont understand why you dont just sort out the ubuntu start up time
[03:12] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Seeing as I havn't deleted anything from the 250 hd (one this is all on) yet
[03:12] <Dev05> sethk, Again, it takes five AFTER POST.
[03:13] <sethk> eyequeuelive, I think you missed on tab completion
[03:13] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok; we're not deleting the sdb2 partition here, just a reference to it ...
[03:13] <sethk> Dev05, no, it doesn't.  I've timed it in all sorts of hardware
[03:13] <Dev05> sethk, An entire cold boot up takes like 15 secs, yes.
[03:13] <Rug> Dev are you talking about seeing the Windows logo, or 5 seconds to a usable Start-button?
[03:13] <eyequeuelive> sethk: re: your drive rpm comment, sorry
[03:13] <sethk> Dev05, as has been noted, you can configure linux to skip starting things you don't use.
[03:13] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: the one thing i wanted you to change is in the line corresponding to sda1, the ntfs part. you're interested in
[03:14] <sethk> eyequeuelive, oh, yes, that's true too.  :)
[03:14] <Dev05> Rug, From the moment I press Enter in the boot loader OS Selector until a Logon screen, 5 secs.
[03:14] <Crippy-Boy> sethk: my point exactly.
[03:14] <Dev05> sethk, How can I do that?
[03:14] <Rug> Ahh.
[03:14] <Crippy-Boy> Edit your rc files to not include so much on start up
[03:14] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: But if that line is gone, it shouldn't look for it when I click the icon?
[03:14] <Rug> igloo:~# uptime 21:26:41 up 67 days,  1:30,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[03:14] <Crippy-Boy> and/or compile a custom kernel with the stuff you dont need disabled
[03:15] <sethk> Dev05, I do it by editing files in the /etc/rc* directories.  there may be gui tools for it; I'm not sure.
[03:15] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: which one now?
[03:15] <eyequeuelive>  update-rc.d (8)      - install and remove System-V style init script links
[03:15] <DarkDread_> how i write GRub in the MBR???
[03:15] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: The partition that's messing us up.
[03:15] <Dev05> sethk, I'm quite new to Linux. Ubuntu is running really smooth and I don't want to trash it ;) .
[03:15] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, I did say "as has been noted", not taking credit for the idea.
[03:15] <sethk> Dev05, don't be afraid.  back up.
[03:15] <Rug> Dev05: trash it!  that is how you learn.
[03:15] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: we won't disable it, what we do is to add one option
[03:16] <Homer> TRASH IT
[03:16] <sethk> Dev05, back up the entire /etc tree, then play.  if you screw it up, restore the backup and start again
[03:16] <Crippy-Boy> sethk: i never said you was :-)
[03:16] <DarkDread_> how i write GRub in the MBR???
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkDread_: Did you read what was linked earlier?
[03:16] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, :)
[03:16] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok
[03:16] <Dev05> Rug, I've trashed it like three times already and SuSE around four ;)
[03:16] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: if that option doesn't help or causes further problems, after the next reboot you go back to your backup of fstab
[03:16] <Renan_s2> !info kermit
[03:16] <ubotu> Package kermit does not exist in any distro I know
[03:16] <Renan_s2> !info ckermit
[03:16] <ubotu> ckermit: a serial and network communications package. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 211-6 (dapper), package size 1558 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[03:16] <Rug> Dev05: Great job.  You must be getting smart now
[03:17] <eyequeuelive> Dev05: /home on a separate partition is your friend, in that case ;-)
[03:17] <DarkDread_> Jack_Sparrow wait
[03:17] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: So save this, and if it doesn't work, come crawling to you for help?
[03:17] <Renan_s2> !info hptalx
[03:17] <ubotu> Package hptalx does not exist in any distro I know
[03:17] <Dev05> eyequeuelive, That's how it's set up.
[03:17] <Dev05> Rug, Yeah... All that in four months.
[03:17] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: that's how it is unfortunately -- the alternative would be to read and do it yourself -- i'm sorry
[03:18] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I'd rather have someone help, I'd fail at reading.
[03:18] <Rug> hehe
[03:18] <UKMatt> Hey everyone, I just put on a fresh install of Dapper, then used sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to try to get Edgy, and I don't think it worked, any ideas what to do?
[03:18] <DarkDread_> !GRub
[03:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:18] <DarkDread_> !Grub
[03:18] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: but if you go to your backup-file afterwards, you'll have the status quo you have now
[03:19] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: what are your symptoms?
[03:19] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: But it wont be broken, right?
[03:19] <DarkDread_> !grub
[03:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:19] <DarkDread_> !grub
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > DarkDread_
[03:19] <DarkDread_> !patience
[03:19] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:19] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, what do you mean symptoms?  well i'm pretty sure I don't have edgy b/c it looks the same, and i know in edgy Ffx is Bon Echo and mine isn't
[03:20] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: (it gives me a black screen here, for example)
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkDread_: Please dont play with the bot
[03:20] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: there are no absolute guarantees. but lemme explain: the option we add tells the system to make that ntfs partion available at boot-time, that's all
[03:20] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, oh no no, i tried off the CD and it wouldnt work, so I put dapper, i mean everythings running perfect i just think this is dapper not edgy
[03:20] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: it's what you have done already, only automatically
[03:20] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok
[03:20] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, i just mean i don't think the dist-upgrade worked
[03:21] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: okay, let's try this:  "dpkg -l xserver-xorg"  paste the *single* line that looks similar to this:  ii  xserver-xorg   7.0.22ubuntu7  the X.Org X server
[03:21] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: now in the line corresponding to /dev/sda1 you can see a series of options, reading: 'ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000' ...
[03:21] <Crippy-Boy> 'twas quite strange earlier, I tried the edgy live cd, and it halted half way through start up and just gave a blinking cursor.
[03:22] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: or just tell me the version number
[03:22] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, how do i check my vers number
[03:22] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: EXACTLY :(
[03:22] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: yeah
[03:22] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: it's in the line i pasted
[03:22] <Crippy-Boy> Ahh well, its beta, I wanted to see whats going on with it, but i can wait.
[03:22] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, oh 1 sec
[03:22] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: i can tell you my workaround, but i can't explain it, so you might not want to try it
[03:23] <Crippy-Boy> I dont really wanna try updating my install if the live cd halts half way through bootup.
[03:23] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeuelive: well roughly?
[03:23] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: we add the 'auto' option, so that it read: 'ro,auto,user ...' make sure there's no whitespace, don't forget a comma after the new option
[03:23] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: wait a minute while it's nlack, then press alt-f3 (not f1 or f2) and then press alt-f1
[03:24] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: bizarre, but it worked
[03:24] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok, so it now reads "...sdb2 ntfs ro,auto,user,fma..."?
[03:24] <Crippy-Boy> i shall try that soon.
[03:24] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: (i'm here using the live dvd with that method)
[03:25] <Crippy-Boy> ill try in about 5 mins, don't really wanna reboot yet.
[03:25] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: fine, now before saving the file, paste it to pastebin again, we don't want to have any errors there ... avoiding stray characters on anything
[03:25] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, waiting for pastebin... its really slow but it came up "half installed"
[03:25] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: ii  xserver-xorg   7.0.22ubuntu7  the X.Org X server  <--- in that, it's "7.0.22ubuntu7"
[03:25] <hockyhair> totally off topic but im sure someone here knows, how do you force windows xp drivers to be used in vista?
[03:25] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: i just need the one line, or the version out of it
[03:25] <hockyhair> link me if need be, ive been searching for 30 min
[03:26] <dannylapt> how do you unzip a file using the CLI?
[03:26] <UKMatt> 7.0.0-0ubuntu4 the X.Org X serv =, eyequeuelive
[03:26] <eyequeuelive> dannylapt: unzip foo.zip
[03:26] <fishy> Are there any "widget" applications like gDesklets? I've found that gDesklets has a limited selection of applets and the ones that exist don't look that great.
[03:26] <Shuvelhasser> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22486
[03:26] <DarkDread_> Jack_Sparrow have 1 system with lilo need settings the grub in the that make??
[03:26] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: wait ....
[03:26] <dannylapt> Thank you
[03:26] <eyequeuelive> !info xserver-xorg dapper
[03:26] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[03:26] <eyequeuelive> !info xserver-xorg edgy
[03:26] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 584 kB
[03:27] <Crippy-Boy> ok. alt f3, alt f1 you say, See ya in a min :-)
[03:27] <dannylapt> eyequeuelive: when i tried to unzip using "unzip filename.zip" i got an command not found error
[03:27] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: looks like you're on dapper still, need/want help with the edgy change?
[03:27] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, i don't know where it went wrong, i dist-upgraded, told me i needed a restart so i did, and then it was like i never ran that
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkDread_: I do not understand your question.. but there is the super grub repair cd found here .. http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[03:27] <American-Tech> Hi I running xgl and I was wondering is there a GUI interface to change settings?
[03:27] <eyequeuelive> dannylapt: sudo apt-get install unzip
[03:28] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, yeah that's what i'm shooting for, i wanna get up to edgy, i have everything backed up here, figured i'd be fun to poke around, nothing to lose
[03:28] <Dev05> American-Tech, Are you using CGWD?
[03:28] <eyequeuelive> !info unzip
[03:28] <ubotu> unzip: De-archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.52-6ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 143 kB, installed size 332 kB
[03:28] <American-Tech> No what is CGWD
[03:28] <DarkDread_> Jack_Sparrow I understand little english sorry
[03:28] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: sorry, you added the 'auto' option to sdb2 not sda1 which is what we're interested in. and sdb2 is commented out anyway!
[03:28] <Dev05> !tell American-Tech about CGWD
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CGWD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <Dev05> !tell American-Tech about cgwd
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cgwd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <Naik0> Is it an plugin that i can minimize xchat?
[03:29] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: glad to hear you're prepared for disaster :)  first, /etc/apt/sources.list, did you change all "dapper" to "edgy"?
[03:29] <Dev05> American-Tech, Google cgwd
[03:29] <fishy> Are the alternative "widget" applications to gDesklets?
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkDread_: no problem download that cd and it should install grub for you.. What is your native language.?
[03:29] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: haha, I was wondering why I was putting that there
[03:29] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: watch out
[03:30] <DarkDread_> Jack_Sparrow portuguese
[03:30] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, k just did
[03:30] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, backed up too in case
[03:30] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: So it's added to sda1 exactly as it was to adb2.
[03:30] <hockyhair> eyequeuelive: sup
[03:30] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: next, sudo apt-get update, to have it source those changes you just made
[03:30] <eyequeuelive> hockyhair: hey
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[03:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:31] <hockyhair> eyequeuelive: do you remember how to force a driver to be used in mscrap
[03:31] <hockyhair> vista..
[03:31] <hiro_p> heya peoples, I'm frustrated. I can't get my ipw2200 card to connect to a wep encrypted ap. the card is up and running, I can connect to a unencrypted ap. can anybody help me?
[03:31] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, k done that
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Does anyone know the abbreviation for protugese for the bot
[03:31] <hockyhair> stupidest thing is ive done it before i just forget how
[03:31] <dannylapt> Does anyone know where the ubuntu source code directory is in ubuntu server?
[03:31] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok delete the option from sdb2 to keep the file clean (i.e. you won't remember that detail weeks later), then send to pastebin again
[03:31] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: next, sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade, and let it run all night (-d is download-only)
[03:31] <eyequeuelive> hockyhair: never used ms, sorry
[03:31] <baconbacon> hiro_p: areyou using the graphical network management
[03:31] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: done
[03:32] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, wait real quick question, i was gonna run automatix to take care of all the little things, will that run in Edgy or do i have to execute that before i upgrade
[03:32] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: then tomorrow, when you can watch it, leave out the -d :)
[03:32] <American-Tech> Can cgwd work in ubuntu?
[03:32] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: pls. send to pastebin; i'll check it again
[03:32] <eyequeuelive> !automatix
[03:32] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:32] <hiro_p> baconbacon: knetworkmanager, wirelessassistant and console with iwconfig
[03:32] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: ask there, i guess, but i'd be careful about it
[03:32] <hiro_p> nothing worked
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> UKMatt: Please do not use #Automatix
[03:33] <Shuvelhasser> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22488
[03:33] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: wait ...
[03:33] <UKMatt> jack_sparrow, why i have before, it worked fine for me
[03:33] <eyequeuelive> Jack_Sparrow: the channel is bad?  or the tool?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> The tool is depreciated here
[03:33] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, alright well i'll worry about that later, what do I have to get to finish this upgrade
[03:33] <hiro_p> baconbacon: but i can connect to an unencrypted network, so the wlan card works
[03:33] <dannylapt> Does anyone know where the ubuntu source code directory is in ubuntu server?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> We see broken systems here every day of the week
[03:33] <baconbacon> UKMatt: you will get less support (or none) here if you use automatix
[03:33] <DarkDread_> e tool is depreciated here
 eyequeuelive, alright well i'll worry about that later, what do I have to get to finish this upgradeD:\mIRC\addon1.mrc
[03:34] <keelo> i used automatix and now my dvds play =/
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[03:34] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:34] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: remember my recommendation for that -d?  that's because you'll be d/l a ton of packages ... the d/l can run unttended while you sleep :)
[03:34] <Dev05> Nice answer from the bot...
[03:35] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: looks ok to me ...
[03:35] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: then when you have time, you omit the -d and supervise the dist-upgrade itself :)
[03:35] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, well i'm gonna watch a show in 25 so i was gonna run it now, what do you mean leave out the d
[03:35] <baconbacon> dannylapt: source code for ubuntu packages : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[03:35] <dannylapt> thank you
[03:35] <keelo> eyequeuelive: how big of a download is that?
[03:35] <baconbacon> you d/l the .tar.gz and the diffs
[03:35] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade (and walk away)
[03:36] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (and watch
[03:36] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: So I should try a restart and see what happens?
[03:36] <techII> /etc/networking is not bringing up eth0 on one of my machines, but ifup eth0 does
[03:36] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, oh ok so I have to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and watch it to get edgy, and then after restart i'm cool?
[03:36] <eyequeuelive> keelo: depends how many packages you have installed, you know?  "most" of them though
[03:36] <baconbacon> dannylapt: a shortcut is to use apt-get source yourpackage
[03:36] <Orfeon> ubotu , nvidia > me
[03:36] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: now before you save and reboot, i'll talk a bit like a preacher to you if you dont mind :-) just to make sure we're on the safe side. just let me talk and listen before saving, then you can reconsider ....
[03:36] <techII> */etc/init.d/networking
[03:37] <eyequeuelive> UKMatt: then you're on edgy, as for cool, no odea how broken it may be :)  btw, #ubuntu+1 afterward :)
[03:37] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Ya I know break the world w/e there's worse that could happen.
[03:37] <techII> also running the networking initscript brings the interface down (if i brought it up with ifup)
[03:37] <dannylapt> I am trying to install drivers for my raid card and the instructions are asking me to go to 1. Go to the kernel source code's directory, (for example, "/usr/src/linux-
[03:37] <dannylapt>      2.4.20").
[03:37] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: this is just a simple text file, you could save it to another file name and ask another guy if there's anything wrong with it ... you don't have to rush ...
[03:37] <UKMatt> eyequeuelive, haha yeah, i've heard some bugs but i'm excited about some of the upgrades, so we'll see... k i'm gonna run it, ty man
[03:38] <eyequeuelive> techII: okay, you want eth0 up automatically at boot?
[03:38] <baconbacon> dannylapt: there is a package specially for kernel source
[03:38] <dannylapt> I went to /usr/src but I didn't find the kernal folders
[03:38] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: this change in the file highly unlike to break your whole ubuntu system ...
[03:38] <Crippy-Boy> :-)
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> dannylapt: what instructions are you following?
[03:38] <techII> eyequeruelive: yes
[03:38] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: ok, couldn't I just put up the pastethinger and ask if there's anything wrong with it?
[03:38] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: remember you can always go back to the backup ...
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > dannylapt
[03:38] <techII> the interface comes up when its setup to use dhcp
[03:38] <dannylapt> jack_sparrow: it is a text file that was with my drivers
[03:39] <techII> but not when its set to a static address
[03:39] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: and yes you could use pastebin to ask other people before commiting to it ...
[03:39] <eyequeuelive> techII: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces, see the eth0 line?  add a line "auto eth0" just above it, save, and at your next reboot it should work
[03:39] <Shuvelhasser> Hey, does anyone see anything wrong with this coding? Nothing that's gonna cause ridiculous errors.
[03:39] <Shuvelhasser> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22488
[03:39] <baconbacon> dannylapt: wait, nevermind, the package is only the headers
[03:39] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: there could be error messages once when you shut down and even when you reboot ...
[03:40] <techII> eyequeuelive: thanks
[03:40] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: but you don't have to worry about them ...
[03:40] <eyequeuelive> techII: no prob
[03:40] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: If all else fails, I'll shut off the 250 and switch over to windows to try and fix it.
[03:40] <Crippy-Boy> sudo apt-get install kernel-package for the kernel i think
[03:40] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: the worst that could happen is that your ntfs part. is as inaccessible as before ...
[03:40] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: oh noes
[03:41] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: but now comes one important thing:
[03:41] <eyequeuelive> er, no Crippy-Boy
[03:41] <eyequeuelive> !info kernel-package
[03:41] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[03:41] <Crippy-Boy> sorry no
[03:41] <Crippy-Boy> I just realised
[03:41] <Crippy-Boy> sorry :-)
[03:42] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: the change that we've made is trivial ... but have you also installed lot's of non-standard software since your last reboot? fiddled with other system configs?
[03:42] <eyequeuelive> dannylapt: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15, if you want source ... puts a tarball under /usr/src you can unpack in $HOME
[03:42] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: it *could* then happen that ...
[03:42] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Not really, no.
[03:42] <eyequeuelive> dannylapt: sudo apt-get install kernel-package build-essential, if you want to build one after that :)
[03:42] <bluefusionxl> hi, how do I install mod_ssl onto apache2?  lol it says its for 1.3 :/
[03:43] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: you have boot problems because of *other* things. so don't be confused: our change is extremely unlike to break the sys ...
[03:43] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: i do recommend that package highly for a number of reasons though, heh
[03:43] <Naik0> how do i change owner of a file to root instead of me?
[03:44] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: The only thing I've had constantly wrong is the computer not finding my 250, which is solved by just hitting f2, so that's not really aproblem
[03:44] <B_166-ER-X> how can i change my main password (admin) in ubuntu ?? i keep searching but i dont find where
[03:44] <eyequeuelive> Naik0: sudo chown root filemnamehere
[03:44] <Naik0> thanks
[03:44] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok, the rest is your decision, i.e. to save the file and reboot, and see how it behaves ... and actually from now on there's not much more i could do for you. -- OK?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !password
[03:44] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeuelive: lol, yeah, I just got a bit confused when it was mentioned, I knew there was a source package (was using it the other day) but i forgot the name and ofcourse kernel-package sprung to mind ;-)
[03:44] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[03:44] <baconbacon> bluefusionxl: apache2 includes ssl
[03:44] <baconbacon> !package apache2-common
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package apache2-common - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: OK. =] 
[03:45] <baconbacon> hmm how does it work
[03:45] <eyequeuelive> B_166-ER-X: "admin"?  you mean your user password?  "passwd"
[03:45] <B_166-ER-X> eyequeuelive,  yes
[03:45] <Shuvelhasser> WISH ME LUCK. If I'm not back in 10 minutes, call the policeee
[03:45] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: i'll be back in 5 minutes or so, when you log back in, tell me how it went.
[03:45] <Naik0> eyequeuelive, filegroup then?
[03:45] <baconbacon> bluefusionxl: from apache2-common description : This package contains all the standard apache2 modules, including SSL support.
[03:45] <eyequeuelive> B_166-ER-X:  "passwd" in a terminal, and follow the prompts
[03:45] <Naik0> owner group i ment
[03:45] <B_166-ER-X> ookay
[03:45] <eyequeuelive> Naik0: sudo chgrp root filemnamehere
[03:45] <Grackle> Ubuntu gives certain status messages regarding laptop status, notably AC power connection/disconnection and battery charge completion... The notification bubbles/boxes look just like the ones that appear next to the update notification bar button, but these ones appear in the lower right corner, and sometimes go offscreen Is there any way to change where they appear?
[03:46] <Naik0> thanks again
[03:46] <B_166-ER-X> i was sure it was simple...nut when you dont know..
[03:46] <eyequeuelive> Naik0: np
[03:46] <B_166-ER-X>  he :) thx
[03:46] <redblades> How do I check what harddrives are being used, and how much space is on them.
[03:46] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: nope, police doesn't work. this is a community ... and all help is free, remember that
[03:46] <redblades> ?
[03:46] <eyequeuelive> B_166-ER-X:  lol, true :)
[03:46] <eyequeuelive> redblades: df
[03:46] <Grackle> df -h for human readable format, where 1kB = 1024B
[03:46] <redblades> Cool
[03:47] <badbad> hi. can any one help me with a resolution problem?
[03:47] <Crippy-Boy> btw eyequeuelive, that worked for booting edgy :-)
[03:47] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: now ... can you tell me WHY???  it annoys me that a blicd guess works, when nothing else will, but i don't understand it :)
[03:48] <bluefusionxl> how do i add apache2 to boot
[03:48] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: glad it did though, proves i'm not insane :)  btw, yours was a knor2 *CD*?  not a dvd?
[03:48] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeuelive: i have no idea, I assumed it was something to do with compatibility with my hardware (im using a laptop) when it halted.
[03:48] <Crippy-Boy> Yeup, it was the cd
[03:49] <kethinov> the gnome volume control adjusts the wrong track. how do i make it use the correct track?
[03:49] <Crippy-Boy> Download a dvd? im too cheap :-)
[03:49] <badbad> crippy: torrent it
[03:50] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: laptop here too, edgy-dvd-i386.iso, and i use a dvd+rw, i'm cheap too, lol
[03:50] <Crippy-Boy> What's torrents got to do with the fact that cd-rs are cheaper?
[03:50] <badbad> i wont talk anymore sry
[03:50] <jbmigel> cd-rw's are cheaper... they work like infinity times
[03:50] <Crippy-Boy> [i had no blanks and too cheap to buy dvd's
[03:51] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ???
[03:51] <zorglu_> testing konverstatoin setting, can somebody say 'zorglu_'
[03:51] <Shuvelhasser> :D
[03:51] <Shuvelhasser> it woooorked
[03:51] <Crippy-Boy> badbad: i didnt mean to sound like an asshole there, Sorry if i did :-)
[03:51] <Shuvelhasser> the drives were placed on my desktop, and fully accessable
[03:51] <badbad> tno problem
[03:51] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: i wasn't sure if you meant media or bandwidth myself, badbad probably assumed the latter
[03:51] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: fine
[03:51] <Shuvelhasser> I love you nozorro
[03:52] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ok, i can live with that :-)
[03:52] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: one important thing:
[03:52] <Bastupungen> Hello! it seams i cannot format my raided (clones) sata disk. When i try to use parted or fdisk i get, roughly translated, Unknown Allocationformat. Anyone know why?
[03:52] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeuelive: fair enough. My fault i tend to assume [wrongly]  that bandwidth is cheap everywhere as it is here
[03:52] <eyequeuelive> if it's a bandwidth issue, btw, once you d/l the iso the first time, the rsync protocol can be used to just d/l the changes ... very nice (badbad)
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > Bastupungen:
[03:53] <eyequeuelive> Crippy-Boy: unlimited here, heh
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[03:53] <Bastupungen> !raid
[03:53] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:53] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: on linux, right now, the ntfs driver only provides read capacity, there's no way to write to such a partition whatever you do, however ...
[03:53] <kethinov> does anyone know how to make the GNOME volume up/down hotkeys control a different audio track?
[03:53] <atoponce> anyone know how to install weechat 0.2.0?
[03:53] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: oh I know. It'll like kill everything.
[03:54] <rancorus> hello, I am using ubuntu and installed kubuntu to see if I would like it but now i am stuck with all the KDE apps in Gnome and I want to remove them, is there any way i can do that ?
[03:54] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: they say this will change not to far into the future ...
[03:54] <eyequeuelive> !info weechat
[03:54] <ubotu> weechat: Fast, light and extensible IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.7-1 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[03:54] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: woo! awesome
[03:54] <eyequeuelive> !info weechat edgy
[03:54] <atoponce> yup. i want 0.2.0
[03:54] <ubotu> weechat: Fast, light and extensible IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.9-1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:54] <jazzrocker> nozorro, if you compile your kernel by hand you can include NTFS write support
[03:54] <clearzen> I have a strange problem. When I restart my computer my DNS server fields are erased. How can I stop this from happening?
[03:54] <jazzrocker> it's still labeled as "EXPERIMENTAL" i think
[03:54] <badbad> if no one is too busy, i have a resolution issue. i am a noob with linux (just installed it and i love it), and my resolution is huge!! i tried 915resolution, but i cant get it to work. i cant even install it! :(
[03:54] <Shuvelhasser> wooo!
[03:54] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: so just look out what the release note of future ubuntu version have to say about this topic
[03:54] <Crippy-Boy> <3 bitcx
[03:54] <Shuvelhasser> mmk
[03:54] <atoponce> it's stable
[03:54] <Shuvelhasser> but now that that it up
[03:55] <Crippy-Boy> bitchx even
[03:55] <Shuvelhasser> how do I configure wine?
[03:55] <Shuvelhasser> like, use it basically
[03:55] <irawan> rancorus: you can remove the kde
[03:55] <eyequeuelive> atoponce: apt-get -b source weechat can only get you 0.1.9 (petition edgy devs to go to 2?)
[03:55] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: wine is not my thing ...
[03:55] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: You can take a break, I wont make you work any more xD
[03:55] <rancorus> irawan: how do i do it ?
[03:55] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Thank you so much though :D
[03:55] <atoponce> eyequeuelive: well, i guess that is better than 0.1.7...
[03:55] <atoponce> but still has bugs
[03:56] <clearzen>  I have a strange problem. When I restart my computer my DNS server fields are erased. How can I stop this from happening?
[03:56] <atoponce> any idea how to get around:
[03:56] <atoponce> weechat-curses: error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.13: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:56] <atoponce> ?
[03:56] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: and you should as well, don't solve all your problems in one day :-)
[03:56] <jazzrocker> clearzen, that used to happen to me
[03:56] <Bastupungen> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks earlyer. It was /dev/sdc. Though i do not understand why LVM solve my problem, now.
[03:56] <BigToe> !info unrar
[03:56] <eyequeuelive> atoponce: apt-get -b source weechat, after adding edgy deb-src lines (NOT deb lines) to sources.list
[03:56] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[03:56] <jazzrocker> clearzen, try going into System -> Administration -> Networking and setting the DNS servers by hand
[03:56] <jazzrocker> clearzen, i just use static IP and don't even both with DHCP
[03:56] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I gota a whole night ahead of me and fixing that made me happy.
[03:56] <eyequeuelive> atoponce: then sudo dpkg -i weechat*.deb
[03:56] <clearzen> I do everytime I reboot. It is annoying
[03:57] <clearzen> It didn't used to happen either
[03:57] <jazzrocker> clearzen, so set a static IP and that way DHCP won't touch resolv.conf
[03:57] <clearzen> It is a static IP
[03:57] <jazzrocker> clearzen, oh... well my then that is retarded
[03:57] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: yeah go ahead -- but also enjoy what you have right now ...-
[03:57] <atoponce> but i have the 0.2.0 deb, and it installs fine, just won't run...
[03:57] <jazzrocker> clearzen, submit a bug report
[03:57] <Roh81> Does anyone here happen to use azureus?
[03:57] <eyequeuelive> atoponce: apt-get -b source weechat will boiuld with the libes on your box, so no error there
[03:57] <clearzen> I know ><
[03:57] <jazzrocker> Roh81, ktorrent > azureus
[03:57] <wachunei> Help i'm on a live cd now, when i boot i get "error 15" in grub, i made a partition changes before with gparted live cd, can you help me please???
[03:57] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I know, first thing I did was listed to a song xD
[03:57] <Roh81> jazzrocker I dont agree.
[03:58] <flaco2> hi... how can I activate a modules in the kernel... in the config file is set =m
[03:58] <Roh81> Well not when it works properly...
[03:58] <bond_> what dvd player do you guys recommend?
[03:58] <jazzrocker> Roh81, given that azureus freezes my network and ktorrent doesn't... well i dunno... my vote goes for ktorrent
[03:58] <eyequeuelive> flaco2: add it to /etc/modules, and reboot
[03:58] <jazzrocker> bond_, kaffeine has been good for me
[03:58] <Shuvelhasser> I just don't really like that it's java based
[03:58] <Roh81> hasnt frozen my network yet... but the damn warning wont go away.
[03:58] <Shuvelhasser> and java scares me
[03:58] <Crippy-Boy> Man the screen reader voice in orca is pitiful
[03:58] <eyequeuelive> flaco2: modprobe it, without the reboot
[03:58] <jazzrocker> bond_, i use the xine based ones
[03:58] <clearzen> is there a field in etc/network/interfaces I could edit by hand to make it stick?
[03:58] <HeathenDan> wine+utorrent for me
[03:58] <benderU> jazzrocker: i just use the bittorrent prog that comes with linux
[03:58] <jazzrocker> bond_, and VLC is good
[03:58] <benderU> it works just fine for me
[03:58] <eyequeuelive> flaco2: your choice
[03:58] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: what is java based?
[03:59] <bond_> cool thanks
[03:59] <wachunei> who can help me whith an "Error 15" in grub???
[03:59] <jazzrocker> benderU, yeah i used to but managing downloads with screen is not my cup of tea, nor is setting command line options for each file
[03:59] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: Azureus
[03:59] <jazzrocker> benderU, btdownloadcurses works fine but it's not a manager
[03:59] <flaco2> ok... but... is a DRI modules.. i have to restart the X to see if this work?
[03:59] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: don't know it
[03:59] <Shadowline> wachunei: I know this won't help but did you check the man file for grub, it should list the error messages
[04:00] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: what is it?
[04:00] <flaco2> and how I un-load a module?
[04:00] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: A torrent program like bittorrent or utorrent
[04:00] <wachunei> Shadowline: where is it?
[04:01] <Shadowline> wachunei: open a terminal, the one on your livecd will work.... type man grub
[04:01] <mordof> urg
[04:01] <mordof> i updated my kernel, now it finds my dual core, but now my wireless doesn't work
[04:01] <Roh81> But then I dont guess anyone can help with my azureus problem then?
[04:01] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: just enjoy the music, relax; see you another day
[04:02] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I think I will, thank you again =] 
[04:02] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: welcome
[04:02] <Crippy-Boy> Roh81: whats the problem with azureus?
[04:02] <Roh81> Damn warning window wont go away
[04:02] <Crippy-Boy> Yeah i had that
[04:03] <Roh81> fillin up like a tenth of my screan
[04:03] <HeathenDan> turn off azureus and restart it
[04:03] <Crippy-Boy> You have to get the latest azureus.jar from the azureus site and replace yours.
[04:03] <Roh81> it stays
[04:03] <Roh81> How? I think i downloaded it. just dont know how to use it
[04:03] <Crippy-Boy> Hold on.
[04:03] <R0cK3T> hi all
[04:03] <Roh81> Would have to find it too. x_x
[04:04] <R0cK3T> having some troubles installing q3
[04:04] <HeathenDan> are you killing azureus or just minimizing it to notification tray? if you didn't tweak your settings, clicking the [x]  icon will minimize it
[04:04] <R0cK3T> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[04:04] <R0cK3T> (tried to run setup)
[04:04] <Roh81> May be minimizing. But updating seems like the best idea if crip can help me out.
[04:05] <bannedbruenig> the latest azureus fixes the never closing warning screen. Just download the .jar, rename it to Azureus2.jar and replace the file of the same name in the azureus directory
[04:05] <Roh81> That so?
[04:05] <R0cK3T> when i run <<sh linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run>>
[04:05] <Crippy-Boy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241799
[04:05] <Roh81> Let me see if i cant find that
[04:05] <Crippy-Boy> @ Roh81
[04:06] <bannedbruenig> Roh81, here is the link http://torrents.aelitis.com:88/files/Azureus2501-B5.jar
[04:06] <bannedbruenig> Roh81, just download that rename it Azureus2.jar and replace the file of the same name
[04:06] <fiveiron> any idea why root would be getting a permission denied error trying to execute ./configure ?
[04:06] <fiveiron> i'm getting this:
[04:07] <fiveiron> bash: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:07] <tizwonder> fiveiron: user-mounted system?
[04:08] <badbad> ok i want to make this desktop a server at which i can access files remotely. any suggestions?
[04:08] <jbroome> ssh, vnc
[04:08] <fiveiron> tizwonder, ah yes...
[04:08] <tizwonder> fiveiron: usually thatmeans  you are compiling your package in a partition which does not allow the execution ofcode
[04:08] <fiveiron> what needs to be added to the fstab?
[04:08] <badbad> thanks ill try ssh
[04:08] <phiber_optic> WHERE is the defaults in kde?
[04:08] <Roh81> feel stupid as hell but i cant find that jar
[04:09] <tizwonder> unmount it, and remount it with proper options, or move the package to another partition that has exec rights
[04:09] <bannedbruenig> Roh81, how did you install azureus, via apt? or from their website?
[04:09] <Roh81> synaptic
[04:10] <bannedbruenig> Roh81, I haven't done it that way but my guess is that it is in /usr/lib/azureus or something like that
[04:10] <Roh81> thanks ill check
[04:10] <tizwonder> fiveiron: i had the problem awhile ago and changed my line in fstab to this, and all works now - /dev/hda2 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
[04:11] <gusto5> hi. ive got updated nvidia drivers, but now the command line wont show from ctrl-alt-f1. how do i fix this?
[04:11] <Roh81> hrm no dice
[04:11] <Crippy-Boy> Roh81: it should be in /usr/share/java/
[04:11] <Roh81> thanks
[04:11] <phiber_optic> WHERE is the defaults.list in kde?
[04:12] <badbad> im gettin ssh now,but after its done how do i set it up?
[04:12] <Roh81> The origianl is there. I need to find where they put the download
[04:12] <bannedbruenig> phiber-optic, try "locate defaults.list" in konsole
[04:13] <patientfox> hey quick question: whats the key combo to take a screenshot?
[04:13] <tizwonder> phiber-optic:  mm  /usr/share/applications/defaults.list?
[04:13] <Crippy-Boy> Roh81: which download?
[04:13] <rugbythomas> what do u use to open a binary file like java install
[04:14] <Roh81> When i first installed it automaticly downloaded a new jar. I figured it was an update but I didnt know hot to use it.
[04:14] <Roh81> I removed the torent without thinking about where they had placed the actual jaw.
[04:14] <meal3837> hi
[04:15] <bannedbruenig> Roh81, what are you talking about the original, if there is a file in there called azureus2.jar, just replace it with the one in the link I gave you after you rename it of course, It doesn't matter where it put the old one or what not
[04:15] <mkquist_> printscreen does the screenshot for me
[04:15] <meal3837> ubuntu comes with gcc, right?
[04:15] <Crippy-Boy> no
[04:16] <Roh81> okay boss.
[04:16] <tizwonder> meal3837: you install it :P
[04:16] <Crippy-Boy> meal3837: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:16] <meal3837> i thought i saw it in /usr/lib
[04:16] <jcapote> anyone know of a good gui mysql client? besides the official one and phpmyadmin
[04:16] <tizwonder> meal3837: sudo apt-get install built-essential
[04:17] <tizwonder> jcapote: nerocode?
[04:17] <tizwonder> but, win :D lol
[04:17] <jcapote> oh well for ubuntu duh lol
[04:17] <tizwonder> haha
[04:18] <Elim> tizwonder: I'm fairly certain it's build-essential, not built-essential.
[04:18] <arthomps> what kernel would u use for an amd 64 x2 3800 on a 939 board?
[04:19] <dannylapt> Where is the kernel source code directory in ubuntu?
[04:19] <rugbythomas> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:19] <rugbythomas> how do i get superuser privitege
[04:19] <HeathenDan> sudo
[04:19] <jbroome> sudo
[04:19] <Roh81> Well Im almost dont that But I dont seem to have permission to replace or rename the original.... x_x
[04:20] <rugbythomas> is sudo for me
[04:20] <Crippy-Boy> Roh81: use sudo
[04:20] <HeathenDan> yes rugbythomas
[04:20] <Roh81> I dont know terminal very well yet crip
[04:20] <Roh81> What would be the command to delete it?
[04:20] <coreymon77> hey guys
[04:20] <meal3837> build-essential wouldn't install because of unmet dependencies
[04:21] <coreymon77> anyone knows about ntfs here
[04:21] <Crippy-Boy> sudo cp /path/to/new/jar /usr/share/java/Azureus2.jar
[04:21] <theBishop> how can i disable the corner notifications in Azureus?
[04:21] <HeathenDan> we got another one
[04:21] <theBishop> haha
[04:21] <theBishop> i don't need to "solve" the problem, i just want to disable them completely
[04:22] <HeathenDan> i think there's an option to disable popup notifications in azu
[04:22] <HeathenDan> but i dunno, havent used it in awhile
[04:23] <BigToe> how do I find out what application is hogging my sound card?
[04:24] <BigToe> I can't use alsa or oss in amarok or vlc - another app is using it but I don't know which
[04:24] <HeathenDan> sneaky audio apps
[04:24] <rugbythomas> i just did sudo "apt-get install java-package fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb"  to try get a web site to work better.  Now the site will not work at all.  How do I undo a java install
[04:24] <Roh81> Crippy-Boy: Thanks man I think its done.
[04:24] <HeathenDan> purge
[04:25] <Crippy-Boy> Roh81: no worries dude, hope its worked :-)
[04:25] <rugbythomas>  HeathenDan: purge for me
[04:25] <HeathenDan> sure
[04:25] <rugbythomas> just the word purge
[04:26] <HeathenDan> sudo apt-get purge <package>
[04:27] <gusto5> anyone know about how installing the new nvidia drivers can make command line not show up?
[04:27] <cmpalmer> has anybody in here used debootstrap to install ubuntu?
[04:27] <cmpalmer> if so, what do I use instead of base-config once that's done?
[04:28] <cmpalmer> because base-config doesn't appear to be available
[04:28] <dannylapt> Where is the kernel source code directory in ubuntu?
[04:28] <micromoog> I've got an interesting network problem, if anyone wants to help: I can both ping and http into a remote machine on the wlan, but ftp gives "No route to host"
[04:28] <Crippy-Boy> dannylapt: you have to download the package.
[04:29] <Roh81> grrr
[04:29] <micromoog> ssh works too
[04:29] <Crippy-Boy> Roh81: whats up?
[04:29] <rugbythomas> what part of  "apt-get install java-package fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb" is the package
[04:29] <BigToe> how do I find out what's using my soundcard?
[04:29] <R0cK3T> can anyone tell me how to extract a .run ???!!
[04:29] <Roh81> Its trying to update its pluggins but is getting an access denied...
[04:29] <morodock> micromoog - sounds like a firewall problem
[04:30] <Crippy-Boy> hmm, Kill it then in terminal use sudo azureus, let it update then you should be able to run normally.
[04:30] <cmpalmer> dannylapt: /usr/src
[04:30] <Naik0> haha no something weird happend with my gdesklets
[04:30] <Crippy-Boy> but thats strange, never happened to me
[04:30] <micromoog> well, I can ftp to other computers without issue (?)
[04:30] <HeathenDan> beats me, try the name of whatever it is you were trying to install
[04:30] <Naik0> its a panel that follows my mouse
[04:30] <micromoog> it's very strange
[04:30] <Roh81> Its running. But I want the update
[04:30] <dannylapt> crippy-boy : I am folliwing instructions to install my raid card drivers and it is asking me to go to my kernel source code directory and run "make mrproper" then make menuconfig" but it need to find the right folder to run the make commands.
[04:30] <cmpalmer> dannylapt: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[04:30] <Naik0> cant click on anything...
[04:31] <Roh81> Oh well. Its working more like im used to anyways
[04:31] <R0cK3T> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[04:31] <dannylapt> cmpalmer: invalid operation error =/
[04:31] <Naik0> i turned the gdesklets off in the terminal
[04:31] <Naik0> but when i start it again it opens
[04:31] <cmpalmer> dannylapt: ?? for "sudo apt-get..." ?
[04:32] <dannylapt> cmpalmer: "invalid operation linux-source" =/
[04:32] <cmpalmer> dannylapt: did you leave out the word "install" ?
[04:32] <Crippy-Boy> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17
[04:32] <dannylapt> yes =/
[04:32] <dannylapt> thank you, sorry im new to linux
[04:32] <cmpalmer> np
[04:33] <Crippy-Boy> hehe, i do it all the time without thinking, dont worry :-)
[04:33] <Homer> does ubuntu 6.06 include xgl?
[04:33] <cmpalmer> dannylapt: you might try lying to it and just using the kernel headers
[04:33] <FliesLikeABrick> can anyone tell me where to find information about dapper-proposed?  I can't find the wiki page that is referred to in the community e-mail.  I found a bug upgrading to the OOo packages.
[04:33] <cmpalmer> dannylapt: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[04:33] <SanityInAnarchy> can Ubuntu be set up in a chroot?  Not a 32-bit chroot, but a chroot under another Linux?
[04:33] <cmpalmer> see if it takes it
[04:33] <dannylapt> crippy-boy: "couldn't find apckage linux-source-2.6.17
[04:34] <cmpalmer> SanityInAnarchy: debootstrap will do that
[04:34] <dannylapt> cmpalmer: I tried using the headers but it didn't work(granted it might be possible, but i dont know how)
[04:34] <FliesLikeABrick> dannylapt you're probably not going to find that source in the dapper repos.  try the edgy repos
[04:35] <R0cK3T> can anyone help me out with quake 3 installation? amd 64
[04:35] <dannylapt> flieslikeabrick: I do now know how to access the adgy repo's?
[04:35] <dannylapt> not* know
[04:35] <Bpaq111> hello all, i'm having an issue installing java plugin for mozilla under dapper, i'm sure ic an't be the only one ;), but ic an't seem to find any resoruces on google that can help. The make-jpkg doesn't work, apt-get install java-package fails w/ invalid package, apt-get make-jpkg fails w/ a pointer to non-existant package error. i haev multiverse, universe and restricted in my sources.list. Any sugegstions on where to look for help?
[04:36] <Crippy-Boy> try just sudo apt-get install linux-source
[04:36] <Naik0> Gaah i got multitail on my gdesklets
[04:36] <Naik0> cant turn it off
[04:36] <FliesLikeABrick> R0cK3T http://www.google.com/search?hs=Xu3&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=quake+3+linux+howto&btnG=Search
[04:36] <Crippy-Boy> Didnt realise it wasnt in the dapper repo's but linux-source is
[04:36] <BigToe> ugh, I'm dumb. Quick question, how do I install a .deb file again?
[04:37] <meal3837> what exactly does gdesklets do?
[04:37] <FliesLikeABrick> R0cK3T does amd64 complicate it at all?
[04:37] <dannylapt> cripy-boy: Yes that worked, thank you.
[04:37] <FliesLikeABrick> BigToe sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[04:37] <Bpaq111> bigtoe dpkg -i <debfilename>
[04:37] <BigToe> thanks
[04:37] <Crippy-Boy> brb. gotta reboot, edgy live cd is annoying :-)
[04:37] <Stork> how do i terminate a process?
[04:37] <Stork> sudo kill -9 pid doesn't work
[04:37] <Stork> neither does -11
[04:38] <Bpaq111> stork, you sure you killing the parent process?
[04:38] <FliesLikeABrick> are you having hardware problems?
[04:38] <Stork> erm no Bpaq111
[04:38] <Bpaq111> ps -auxct
[04:38] <Bpaq111> look to see where your process is in the ascii tree
[04:38] <Bpaq111> kill top most process that spawned your bad one
[04:39] <Bpaq111> or just reboot
[04:39] <Bpaq111> :)
[04:39] <R0cK3T> flieslikeabrick: yes
[04:39] <cmpalmer> Bpaq111: sun-java5-jre is probably the package you want
[04:39] <R0cK3T> sry im kinda new to linux
[04:39] <FliesLikeABrick> R0cK3T do you have 32 bit binary compatability installed?
[04:39] <R0cK3T> no
[04:39] <BigToe> okay, the .deb's corrupted
[04:39] <R0cK3T> or
[04:39] <R0cK3T> lol
[04:39] <Bpaq111> cmpalmer will try
[04:40] <R0cK3T> i don't think so
[04:40] <BigToe> how do I install a .package?
[04:40] <Naik0> Hey, someone knows how i can see wich desklets i have up and go right now?
[04:40] <nozorro> Bpaq111: why do you guys all reboot, init 1 works in most cases :-)
[04:40] <TBNolan> so i've got a problem: i want to run an iroffer bot from my ubuntu machine, but if i try to run it as a user, it won't let me access any of the dependent files, and if i run it as sudo it dies and says it shouldn't be run as root
[04:40] <Naik0> Hey, someone knows how i can see wich desklets i have up and go right now?
[04:40] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan where are the depends located?
[04:41] <BigToe> how do I install a .package file?
[04:41] <TBNolan> in the same dir as the executable
[04:41] <`m0> hmm
[04:41] <Bpaq111> nozorro i haven't been able to get init to behave like i want it to :)
[04:41] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan who are they owned by?
[04:41] <Kromel> hello all
[04:41] <TBNolan> how do i check?
[04:41] <R0cK3T> its almost goin
[04:41] <R0cK3T> but
[04:41] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan in a terminal, ls -la
[04:41] <Bpaq111> cpalmer sun-java5-package doesn't exist accoding to my apt-get install :)
[04:41] <`m0> Everythign works fine for ubuntu except Auxillary SCreen support on LAPTOP (N + F4 )
[04:41] <nozorro> Bpaq111: ?
[04:41] <R0cK3T> linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run doesn't work
[04:41] <R0cK3T> i get error
[04:41] <Takumi`> Hello everyone, how can i change gnome themes???
[04:41] <FliesLikeABrick> Bpaq111 did you enabled universe and multiverse in your sources?
[04:41] <meal3837> so, the gcc listed in /usr/lib is . . . nothing?
[04:41] <`m0> I might goback to WIndows cause of the dual screen support
[04:41] <Bpaq111> yes
[04:41] <TBNolan> its a mixed bag, some by root, some by the user
[04:41] <R0cK3T> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[04:41] <FliesLikeABrick> Takumi` it is on the system menu under Preferences
[04:42] <bannedbruenig> Takumi, find a theme and drag and drop it into the System>preferences>Themes dialog
[04:42] <jazzrocker> would it be possible for me to install ubuntu on this extra HD in my system w/out rebooting?
[04:42] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan is there any reason you can't make them all owned by the user?
[04:42] <Takumi`> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=44576&file1=44576-1.png&file2=44576-2.jpg&file3=&name=Darker+Theme+%5Bcompiz+port%5D <- i can use this under System>preferences>themes dialog??
[04:42] <TBNolan> no, apart from i don't know the cmd
[04:42] <Bpaq111> o.k.... no :)
[04:42] <FliesLikeABrick> `m0 there is dual screen support in linux/ubuntu, I'm using it rightn ow
[04:42] <FliesLikeABrick> not*
[04:42] <Bpaq111> sheesh i SWEAR i enable multiverse
[04:42] <cmpalmer> Bpaq111: not sun-java5-package
[04:43] <cmpalmer> Bpaq111: sun-java5-jre
[04:43] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan do "chown -R <user name> <folder name>"
[04:43] <Bpaq111> but i only enable universe. .. will add multiverse and try again.
[04:43] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan and chgrp -R with the same arguments
[04:43] <bannedbruenig> Takumi`, give the link to the actual theme not a screenshot, So i can see the package
[04:44] <Takumi`> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=44576&id=1&PHPSESSID=df47909c98545708d0d429de670992b6 <- here @ bannedbruenig
[04:44] <Eroick> Ubuntu crashes randomly. It doesn't matter what Im doing , but every so often it just locks up. Logs show nothing, the mouse wont move, I cant CTRL-ALT-BKSPC or CTRL-ALT-DEL or CTRL-ALT-F*. Its truely locked up. Any idea why? Im thinking that ndiswrapper is causing problems.
[04:44] <R0cK3T> FliesLikeABrick: R0cK3T do you have 32 bit binary compatability installed?  I have no idea!!
[04:44] <Bpaq111> man see what spending too much time infront of the keybaord staring at teh smae problems does :). I put multiverse in typed jre instead of package and BAAAAM!! it works .. thansk all!!!
[04:44] <bannedbruenig> Takumi`, that is a compiz theme
[04:44] <`m0> FliesLikeABrick: But why doesn't myButton on my laptop FN + F4 key working .....
[04:44] <Bpaq111> g'night!
[04:44] <FliesLikeABrick> I heard you R0cK3T, and unfortunately I'm not familiar with 64 bit linux in a desktop environment
[04:45] <R0cK3T> np :)
[04:45] <Takumi`> bannedbruenig... how can i change the theme of the taskbar then??
[04:45] <Eroick> Any ideas as to why?
[04:45] <FliesLikeABrick> `m0 you most likely need to configure it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <mordof> i've got an acer aspire 5610, was wondering if anyone knew how to get my media keys to work?
[04:45] <bannedbruenig> Takumi`, use this, it is the same theme but not for compiz http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=32768&id=1
[04:45] <Jamminpotato> anyone know if edgy will use the gaim 2.0 beta or stay with 1.5
[04:45] <`m0> FliesLikeABrick: Is there a way to restore my xorg.conf ?
[04:45] <FliesLikeABrick> Eroick that sounds like it may be a hardware issue.  does pressing ctrl+alt+f2 take you to an alternate terminal when it locks up?
[04:45] <`m0> FliesLikeABrick: I messed it up last time
[04:45] <FliesLikeABrick> `m0 make a copy of it before you make changes
[04:46] <Eroick> FliesLikeABrick: nope
[04:46] <FliesLikeABrick> Jamminpotato try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:46] <cmpalmer> Eroick: there might be something helpful in /var/log/syslog after you reboot
[04:46] <FliesLikeABrick> Eroick it sounds like a hardware problem if syslog shows nothing
[04:46] <`m0> FliesLikeABrick: I didn't do that last time, so my mouse is not working
[04:46] <FliesLikeABrick> `m0 if you don't have a copy, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <FliesLikeABrick> that command will reconfigure xorg
[04:46] <Kromel> Synaptic Package Manager reports two packages that are broken: libcairo2, and libcairo2-dev.  When marked for removal, it lists a LOT of things I don't want removed.  Any suggestions?
[04:47] <Eroick> cmpalmer: there isnt
[04:47] <`m0> FliesLikeABrick: Thank you, I will try that once my forced check is finished..
[04:47] <Eroick> FliesLikeABrick: I have a WG111 using ndiswrapper, could that cause problems?
[04:47] <FliesLikeABrick> Kromel try apt-get install -f
[04:47] <Naik0> HELP ME, its a desklet that are follow my mouse ! Dont know wich one, how can i see which desklets are running atm
[04:47] <FliesLikeABrick> Eroick try disabling it/removing it temporarily and see if it still crashes ;)
[04:47] <holly2> After upgrading to dapper, I got some gdm configuration errors, so I tried to purge and reinstall it, but I wasn't able to completely remove it.  Now I get a bunch of debconf/perl errors as dpkg tries to reconfigure it...any ideas how I might fix that?
[04:47] <jazzrocker> Naik0, ps ax
[04:47] <FliesLikeABrick> holly2 are they errors about locales?
[04:48] <Eroick> FliesLikeABrick: but, How could I solve that problem?
[04:48] <holly2> FliesLikeABrick, no, perl module errors (e.g. debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (Unrecognized character \x10 at /usr/share/perl/5.8/fields.pm line 1)
[04:48] <Shuvelhasser> I couldn't sit back for long
[04:48] <FliesLikeABrick> Eroick you need to find the problem before it is worth thinking about how to fix it
[04:48] <Shuvelhasser> anyone good with wine and willing to help?
[04:48] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: obviously :-)
[04:48] <FliesLikeABrick> Shuvelhasser ask the question and I'll give it a shot
[04:48] <`m0> hmm interesting,.,,. the mouse works now ...
[04:48] <dannylapt> what is the command to install ncurses-devel?
[04:48] <`m0> Ubuntu fixes it self
[04:48] <`m0> kinda cool
[04:48] <Eroick> FliesLikeABrick: but assuming it was, would it be fixable?
[04:48] <bannedbruenig> Shuvelhasser, what is the problem
[04:48] <FliesLikeABrick> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[04:49] <FliesLikeABrick> Eroick it depends if it is a driver problem or a low-level hardware conflict
[04:49] <Shuvelhasser> FLAB: I'm just wondering how to get it working, and knowing my knowledge of linux so far, if I downloaded it correctly
[04:49] <BigToe> when trying to compile an app
[04:49] <BigToe> I get
[04:49] <FliesLikeABrick> sudo apt-get install wine
[04:49] <BigToe> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[04:49] <Eroick> FliesLikeABrick: i think it may be a driver conflict
[04:49] <FliesLikeABrick> then winecfg Shuvelhasser
[04:49] <nozorro> ***Shuvelhasser wants to  resolve all problems in home night
[04:49] <madkat> i need help.
[04:49] <BigToe> but I know I have my compiler installed correctly
[04:49] <BigToe> can anyone help?
[04:49] <nozorro> in *one* hight, erm
[04:50] <bannedbruenig> Shuvelhasser, you should use the repository, like FliesLikeABrick suggested
[04:50] <dannylapt> what is the command to install ncurses-devel?
[04:50] <madkat> im having problems reading NTFS partitions
[04:50] <Shuvelhasser> ok
[04:50] <`m0> Dows this: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  bring up the gui ?
[04:50] <Takumi`> @bannedbruenig >> i am using compiz right now, and i want to use a theme so that the taskbar and windows looks different, how can i do this? ;)
[04:50] <pianoboy3333> How can I find what LAN IP adresses are in use on my local area network?
[04:50] <FliesLikeABrick> Eroick once you find the problem, you may be better off trying to find the solution on a forum (linuxquestions.org or ubuntuforum.org) since IRC isn't great for really detailed problems
[04:50] <tizwonder> netstat?
[04:51] <Eroick> ok
[04:51] <bannedbruenig> Takumi`, oh I thought you weren't not sure how to install themes specifically for compiz
[04:51] <Shuvelhasser> well once it's downloaded, what do I do?
[04:51] <BigToe> how do I fix the error: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables ?
[04:51] <Kromel> I was told to do: sudo apt-get install -f    , and I get the following error:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22500
[04:51] <FliesLikeABrick> pianoboy3333 ping -b 192.168.1.0 (whatever the lan IP addresses are with a 0 as the last octet)
[04:51] <Eroick> well, im installing ubuntu on a different computer right now :)
[04:51] <dockane> hi... i am trying to use the smbclient command line prompt to move some files from the local system to a smb share. is there any reason why i do not get any messages from some commands like "recurse" like described on http://www.oreilly.de/german/freebooks/samba2ger/ch05.html
[04:51] <Takumi`> how can i use themes bannedbruenig... im using xgl/compiz. :) thanks
[04:52] <FliesLikeABrick> dockane is there a reason you're not trying to mount it instead?
[04:52] <FliesLikeABrick> BigToe sudo apt-get install g++
[04:52] <dannylapt> Does anyone know the command to install ncurses-devel?
[04:52] <BigToe> thanks
[04:52] <FliesLikeABrick> dannylapt I already told you
[04:52] <FliesLikeABrick> dannylapt  sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[04:52] <Crippy-Boy> dannylapt: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[04:53] <viator> how do enter a password for the bittotrent client?
[04:53] <viator> anyone know?
[04:53] <FliesLikeABrick> depends on the client viator
[04:53] <dannylapt> Thank you
[04:53] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: you're best off using Applications > Add/Remove or Synaptic; anything else requires command-line knowledge, or non-standard tools
[04:53] <dockane> FliesLikeABrick: yeppa... i hope to get some information why a few directories make copying abort (either when the share is mounted or i use nautilus->places->network / drag and drop)
[04:53] <Lathiat> viator: password ? what do you need a password for?
[04:53] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: I's already downloaded, I'm just not sure how to configure it
[04:53] <FliesLikeABrick> dockane I have no idea why certain directories would fail without a message, even if it was mounted
[04:54] <viator> Bittorent 3.4.2-6ubuntu2
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> Shuvelhasser if you have it installed, do winecfg in a termianl
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> terminal*
[04:54] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: downloaded and installed, or downloaded?
[04:54] <viator> cause a torrent i was trying to download called for one
[04:54] <Shuvelhasser> I believe dl'd & installed
[04:54] <Shuvelhasser> _Believe_
[04:54] <FliesLikeABrick> Shuvelhasser try the winecfg command, see if it works
[04:55] <dockane> FliesLikeABrick: np... but you have to accept that this was _your_ question ;)
[04:55] <FliesLikeABrick> it should bring up a window with configuration options and info
[04:55] <Crippy-Boy> dannylapt: you can search for packages using 'apt-cache search' or http://packages.ubuntu.com [just for future reference] 
[04:55] <Shuvelhasser> yeah it did
[04:55] <Shuvelhasser> hmm
[04:55] <Takumi`> how can i change the looks of the taskbar in compiz??
[04:55] <Takumi`> :(
[04:55] <viator> says rejected by tracker
[04:55] <Shuvelhasser> let's see what I can do with this bugger
[04:55] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah dockane I know.  I'm not familiar with smbclient, and if you didn't have it mounted I was going to have you try that instead
[04:55] <viator> unregistered torrent pass
[04:55] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: well if it's part of ubuntu's community repos, it must be somewhere in the menus (if it's a desktop app)... but ...
[04:55] <madkat> i need help
[04:56] <FliesLikeABrick> Takumi`  try #ubuntu-xgl
[04:56] <Byan> how do I get my ethernet to be 1gb...
[04:56] <BigToe> now I get the error *** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found*** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in*** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the*** full path to sdl-config. --- how do I fix this one? libsdl-image1.2 (which I guess it's referring to) is already installed
[04:56] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: if you just downloaded some deb file from some website or so, it's a command line thing
[04:56] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan do you have a 1gbit ethernet card?
[04:56] <Takumi`> im already there flieslikeabrick.. thanks anyway ;)
[04:56] <rugbythomas> Cannot move "/home/thomas/fdg" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.  I am the only using of my computer and I get this message when I try to delete fdg how do I get permission
[04:56] <Shuvelhasser> It's installed
[04:56] <Crippy-Boy> i wanna try xgl, just to see what its like, i think itd kill my poor little laptop though :(
[04:56] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: which app?
[04:56] <madkat> where do you get XGL, people are raving about that
[04:56] <Shuvelhasser> now, how do I setup programs through it
[04:56] <Byan> FliesLikeABrick: I've never actually tested it, but it's suppost to be
[04:57] <FliesLikeABrick> rugbythomas use sudo to execute chown and chgrp commands to make sure you have the ownership necessary
[04:57] <Shuvelhasser> Wine, I'm in the config now
[04:57] <Byan> I just got my gb switch
[04:57] <madkat> im trying to mount my NTFS hd, and i get a permissions error
[04:57] <Shuvelhasser> lol madkat
[04:57] <Shuvelhasser> I JUST went through that
[04:57] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan do you have any reason to believe it isn't working already?
[04:57] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell madkat about ntfs
[04:57] <Byan> FliesLikeABrick: the switch says so
[04:57] <erichapkido> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu and when I get to the partition editor it starts it and then just freezes and won't continue
[04:57] <FliesLikeABrick> good answer Byan
[04:57] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: ah well, as i said ... i'm not familiar with it ... trust me you should leave this for another night :-)
[04:57] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan what card is it?
[04:57] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan (lspci)
[04:58] <Shuvelhasser> Noz: NEVAR.
[04:58] <Byan> lspci?
[04:58] <Homer> ok I am sure you guys get this question alot
[04:58] <Byan> O_o
[04:58] <rugbythomas>  FliesLikeABrick: rugbythomas use sudo to execute chown and chgrp commands to make sure you have the ownership necessary how do I do this
[04:58] <cajun> which is a preferral format for ubuntu?   ntfs or ext3?
[04:58] <FliesLikeABrick> cajun ext3
[04:58] <rugbythomas> not ntfs
[04:58] <FliesLikeABrick> you can't use ntfs cajun
[04:58] <nozorro> Shuvelhasser: NEVAR???
[04:58] <cajun> ok  thx
[04:58] <Homer> where do I get the codec to play DVDs and MP3s
[04:58] <viator> lol ubuntu cant use ntfs
[04:58] <cajun> well that would explain haivng so many issues w/ trying to do it in ntfs
[04:58] <Crippy-Boy> Homer: look on the ubuntu wiki
[04:58] <viator> can read it and somewhat write
[04:58] <Peumaman> what does it mean when I am using a program and it suddenly becomes gray and pauses?
[04:58] <FliesLikeABrick> viator it is a windows filesystem, linux can't use it for installations
[04:58] <madkat> Where can i get xgl?
[04:59] <Byan> FliesLikeABrick: it is a marvell intergrated port on my mobo..
[04:59] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan use that command to tell you what card it is, even if it is integrated
[04:59] <asdefwe> Would someone please tell me how do I register an IRC nickname?
[04:59] <Byan> lemme see if ASUS has more details
[04:59] <viator> anyone use kqemu
[04:59] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan that will tell you the chipset name
[04:59] <cmpalmer> !tell madkat about xgl
[04:59] <Byan> how, thats the command?
[04:59] <Shuvelhasser> In the Wine Config, how do I put programs into it?
[04:59] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan yes, just do lspci in a terminal and look for it
[04:59] <viator> for some reason i cant install quicktime
[04:59] <cmpalmer> asdefwe: /msg Nickserv help
[04:59] <viator> on my xp img
[04:59] <asdefwe> thank YOU
[04:59] <erichapkido> does ubuntu have a problem with sata2 drives?
[05:00] <asdefwe> cmpalmet
[05:00] <FliesLikeABrick> Shuvelhasser you don't do that in winecfg, you do it by executing the program's installer with wine or by copying the needed files into ~/.drive_c
[05:00] <cmpalmer> asdefwe: np
[05:00] <FliesLikeABrick> erichapkido it shouldn't
[05:00] <R0cK3T> can anyone tell me how to extract a .run file
[05:00] <asdefwe> :)
[05:00] <erichapkido> cause it won't load the partitioner in the installer
[05:00] <FliesLikeABrick> R0cK3T you should just be able to run it
[05:00] <gusto5> hiya, im here again about nvidia drivers. after the drivers are installed everything works, but command line wont show
[05:00] <Shuvelhasser> FLAB: Thank you, I'll try that
[05:00] <Byan> says.. 88E8001 Gb ethernet controller (rev 13)
[05:01] <tomasz27> hey all
[05:01] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2006-01/msg01582.html
[05:01] <R0cK3T> i read that i might be able to bypass the glib error if i extract the .run file
[05:01] <BigToe>  I get the error *** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found*** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in*** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the*** full path to sdl-config. --- how do I fix this one? libsdl-image1.2 (which I guess it's referring to) is already installed
[05:01] <FliesLikeABrick> er sorry Byan didn't mean to paste that
[05:01] <cajun> does ubuntu have any issues w/ mounting and reading an ntfs partition?
[05:01] <FliesLikeABrick> no cajun you can mount and read it fine
[05:01] <cajun> i have XP on an ntfs partition
[05:02] <Byan> ok...
[05:02] <cajun> ok thx
[05:02] <BigToe> no cajun it's just writing that's buggy
[05:02] <tomasz27> does Ubuntu or any other distro recognize NTFS ot FAT?
[05:02] <Crippy-Boy> yes
[05:02] <FliesLikeABrick> tomasz27  ubuntu can read and write fat32, and can read ntfds
[05:02] <FliesLikeABrick> ntfs*
[05:02] <viator> hey i found a way to play flash 9 stuff
[05:02] <infidel> ok i have an amd64 i currently have ubuntu 64 installed should i be using the 32 bit version?
[05:02] <Peumaman> is there a way to make shift-backspace not restart my computer?
[05:03] <BigToe> shift-backspace restarts your PC?
[05:03] <FliesLikeABrick> infidel do you have any problems with the 64 bit version?
[05:03] <tomasz27> thnx
[05:03] <nozorro> Peumaman: shift-backspace?
[05:03] <Peumaman> yeah, it's really annoying when i'm trying to type
[05:03] <R0cK3T> when I tried to run the quake3 linux installation binary I got a message similar to yours. I had to unpack and run the installation manually:
[05:03] <R0cK3T> sh linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run --target q3
[05:03] <R0cK3T> cd q3/
[05:03] <R0cK3T> sudo ./setup.sh
[05:03] <FliesLikeABrick> R0cK3T please don't paste into the channel
[05:03] <nozorro> Peumaman: weird
[05:03] <gusto5> mine does that too actually.
[05:03] <R0cK3T> sry ?
[05:03] <gusto5> probably your keyboard configurations
[05:04] <gusto5> i cant access my command line >_>
[05:04] <meal3837> does anyone know anything about libreadline4?
[05:04] <rugbythomas> thomas@thomas-desktop:~$ ls ; Desktop  Examples  fdg  homework  MyMusic  The Chris McCarty Band; thomas@thomas-desktop:~$ sudo chown -hR thomas /fdg; chown: cannot access `/fdg': No such file or directory;                            what am I doing wrong
[05:04] <Peumaman> I couldn't find anything in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[05:04] <gusto5> this is so fustrating....
[05:04] <gusto5> Peumaman, i know what you mean. i have it too.
[05:04] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan I have no ideas about how to make it work properly.  if nobody else has any suggestions here, try www.ubuntuforums.org or www.linuxquestions.org
[05:05] <ChaosFan> rugbythomas: without leading slash
[05:05] <Byan> FliesLikeABrick: ok...
[05:05] <Peumaman> gusto5: yeah, i keep doing it accidentally
[05:05] <rugbythomas> all i want to do is delete fdg
[05:05] <nozorro> meal3837: man readline, if that helps
[05:05] <ChaosFan> just chown -hR thomas fdg
[05:05] <R0cK3T> :(
[05:05] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan IRC isn't always the most useful place for very detailed or specific question
[05:05] <infidel> FliesLikeABrick: yeah the codecs only work on 32 bit
[05:05] <roostishaw> is there a Gaim 2.0 beta 3.1 deb for dapper, or one in the repos?
[05:05] <meal3837> i went to apt-get libreadline4 to chase down some dependencies, and it wanted to remove 279 packages!
[05:05] <ChaosFan> rugbythomas: and you use chown to delete? that's done by rm
[05:05] <FliesLikeABrick> roostishaw if there is, it would be in the backports repo
[05:06] <nozorro> meal3837: so you don't want to remove that lib, it's too important then, with many packages depending on it i guess
[05:06] <roostishaw> FliesLikeABrick, and do you know what it would be called?
[05:06] <R0cK3T> im to newb to follow fancy 1337 linux instructions
[05:06] <rugbythomas>  ChaosFan i dont have permission to delete for some missed up reason
[05:06] <jbroome> R0cK3T: wow
[05:06] <ChaosFan> rugbythomas: then sudo rm -rf fdg, while in your home directory
[05:06] <meal3837> i wasn't removing, i was installing it
[05:07] <R0cK3T> lol
[05:07] <gusto5> anyone help me? my command line wont show after ctrl-alt-f1
[05:07] <R0cK3T> im freakin out man
[05:07] <meal3837> and apt-get said it needed to remove those packages
[05:07] <innavoig> help
[05:07] <viator> click applications>accesories>terminal
[05:07] <R0cK3T> mostly cause i can't tell which instructions are good or not
[05:07] <viator> is it there?
[05:07] <FliesLikeABrick> ubotu tell innavoig about ask
[05:07] <R0cK3T> there is to much
[05:07] <innavoig> how to instal samba with swat
[05:08] <R0cK3T> the .run is almost working
[05:08] <R0cK3T> but it gets stuck
[05:08] <whocares> I have Live running, but it's bare...my friend told me about automatix and said it would help.   I'm trying to decide if I want to switch, but i need more apps.  Will automatix fix the bare apps problem?
[05:08] <sethk> meal3837, you have to convince it to allow both versions of libreadline to exist at the same time
[05:08] <R0cK3T> installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[05:08] <FliesLikeABrick> whocares it depends what you need to do.  what kind of apps are you lookign for
[05:08] <FliesLikeABrick> ?
[05:08] <kewagi> could someone help me with a problem with amavisd-new under dapper, please? I followed the community tutorial, but it just wont' start.
[05:08] <FliesLikeABrick> whocares also look at the synaptic package manager, that is where most of the additional programs are
[05:08] <viator> whocares
[05:08] <meal3837> sethk: any suggestions?
[05:09] <sethk> whocares, I haven't used it myself; I've heard people say it is buggy
[05:09] <viator> what do you mean by apps?
[05:09] <nozorro> meal3837: i don't know about your system, but libreadline5 should come with a standard install; installing version 4 would not trigger any dependency problems on my system
[05:09] <sethk> meal3837, you said no when it wanted to remove packages, right?
[05:09] <Byan> FliesLikeABrick: well, I didn't know if it really was specific...
[05:09] <nozorro> meal3837: or rather, it would just install and be done with it
[05:09] <innavoig> i downloaded the samba-3.0.23c how to install it...
[05:09] <whocares> I need thunderbird, music player, dvd player, etc...
[05:09] <sethk> nozorro, that's correct, but it appears his database is corrupted somehow w.r.t. libreadline
[05:09] <meal3837> it wanted to remove packages, then i said no
[05:09] <Byan> for all I knew, I had to type in one command..
[05:09] <nozorro> sethk: that's pretty bad then
[05:09] <sethk> meal3837, then you don't really have a problem, other than the nasty messages
[05:09] <viator> music player and dvdplayer already tthere
[05:10] <sethk> nozorro, yes, I agree.
[05:10] <FliesLikeABrick> innavoig you should use apt (or synaptic) to install samba, rather than a source or binary download from the samba site
[05:10] <viator> thunderbirds in the repos
[05:10] <arthomps> what kernel should i use for an amd x2 ?
[05:10] <sethk> meal3837, try the repair functions you can do from synaptic to try to repair the package data
[05:10] <FliesLikeABrick> Byan it sounds like the driver that is with ubuntu by default does not support gigabit speeds in that adapter yet, but that isn't to say that you can't install it yourself... I just don't know where to point you
[05:10] <viator> k7
[05:10] <nozorro> sethk: but version 4 is not an officially supported package, so 'you had been warned'
[05:10] <arthomps> why no k8?
[05:10] <sharky> can someone explain this error to me: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:10] <viator> dunno ask them
[05:11] <innavoig> thanks
[05:11] <sethk> nozorro, indeed, but as you said, it should not interfere with packages that use a different version
[05:11] <sharky> i know i have libncurses.so.5 in /lib
[05:11] <roostishaw> FliesLikeABrick, and do you know what the package is called?
[05:11] <ChaosFan> sharky: it means what it says
[05:11] <meal3837> how do i tell if v 5 is installed?
[05:11] <Avagow> ./msg Nickserv
[05:11] <sethk> nozorro, and it isn't like other people don't install it
[05:11] <R0cK3T> anyone here installed Q3A on ubuntu with amd 64 bit?
[05:11] <FliesLikeABrick> sharky try sudo apt-get install libncurses5
[05:11] <nozorro> sethk: true, different lib versions should be usable in parallel
[05:11] <ChaosFan> roostishaw: i did
[05:11] <ChaosFan> roostishaw: but u used ioquake3
[05:11] <ChaosFan> roostishaw: sry
[05:11] <ChaosFan> R0cK3T: i meant you
[05:11] <FliesLikeABrick> no roostishaw I don't
[05:12] <sethk> nozorro, right.  I have to study the low level data in the package manager more to figure out what goes on when the data gets out of wack like that
[05:12] <sharky> FliesLikeABrick, i have the newest version
[05:12] <Takumi`> is it possible to change the taskbar in gnome??
[05:13] <FliesLikeABrick> Takumi` like what, the theme of it?
[05:13] <cajun> is it possible to install from a USB drive?
[05:13] <sharky> ChaosFan, is there a way to explicitly make the libnucurses.so.5 file be seen by the binary?
[05:13] <R0cK3T> ChaosFan: im tryin to install with windows cd
[05:13] <R0cK3T> what is ioquake3?
[05:14] <R0cK3T> what i did was make the folder structure
[05:14] <R0cK3T> and put the pak0.pk3 in the baseq3 folder
[05:14] <meal3837> i'm trying to install mplayer
[05:14] <ChaosFan> R0cK3T: try that one: http://www.icculus.org/quake3/
[05:14] <meal3837> and it needs libjack0.80.0
[05:14] <R0cK3T> then run the linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[05:15] <ChaosFan> R0cK3T: the icculus version is just the open source part, though. You'll need that baseq3-file from the cd to actually play
[05:15] <TBNolan> FliesLikeABrick: can you help me install tcl on my box?
[05:16] <freelabs> hi :d
[05:16] <Takumi`> FliesLikeABrick: yes i want to use a theme for my taskbar, is it possible on gnome?
[05:16] <meal3837> which in turn needs jackd
[05:16] <R0cK3T> chaosFan: the pak0.pk3 is already in usr/local/games/Quake_III_Arena/baseq3
[05:16] <meal3837> which needs libreadline4
[05:16] <sharky->  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY gateway
[05:16] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan  I don't know anything about TCL, please ask the channel instead of individual people
[05:16] <juergenkarl> if:  $number = 5 does $number++++++ mean 8?
[05:16] <TBNolan> eh, you were just so helpful last time
[05:17] <TBNolan> apologies
[05:17] <FliesLikeABrick> Takumi` I don't know much about themes, I was just trying to clarify what you were asking.  My guess is yes, you can theme the taskbar, though that is just a guess
[05:17] <FliesLikeABrick> juergenkarl no, ++ is an operator, anything more than that is not
[05:17] <Arafangion> Many programs support a method of maximizing to the "full screen", right?
[05:17] <Arafangion> Now, how the heck do I make it so that they maximize to the SECOND screen?
[05:18] <Arafangion> (Ie, so that qemu, or OOo, etc, use the overhead projector)
[05:18] <Takumi`> FliesLikeABrick: thanks for the info
[05:18] <Takumi`> Anybody here knows how to theme gnomes taskbar? Please lend a hand. :)
[05:19] <arthomps> what's the difference between k7 and k8 kernel?
[05:19] <ChaosFan> Takumi`: as i don't use gnome, i don\t know. but there HAS to be some howto google can tell you about
[05:20] <Arafangion> arthomps: One is for k7-model cpu's, and the other is for k8-model cpu's?
[05:20] <Arafangion> Takumi`: Right click -> properties.
[05:20] <Takumi`> kei CF!!
[05:20] <R0cK3T> ChaosFan: i downloaded the ioquake3-1.33_SVN797-0.1.x86_64.run
[05:20] <Arafangion> Takumi`: Though, recently, Gnome has taken a trend to reduce customizeability.
[05:20] <TBNolan> is anyone familiar with TCL and how to install that coding language on my ubuntu machine?
[05:20] <R0cK3T> so can i run it from anywhere?
[05:20] <dockane> strange thing: when i enter a smb share with nautilus its uses up cpu perfomance (100%)... any ideas why
[05:20] <dockane> ?
[05:21] <ChaosFan> R0cK3T: execute it, it will unpack some basic structure
[05:21] <R0cK3T> or do i have to run it in /usr/local/games/quake3/baseq3
[05:21] <UKMatt> can anyone tell me why Automatix or EZUbu are bad?
[05:21] <UKMatt> !automatix
[05:21] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:21] <ChaosFan> and there will be a script calles ioquake3, which is used to start q3
[05:21] <FliesLikeABrick> there ya go UKMatt  ;)
[05:21] <R0cK3T> i'll try
[05:21] <juergenkarl> !longpenis
[05:22] <R0cK3T> sry but
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about longpenis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <R0cK3T> i don't know how to exectute a script :s
[05:22] <FliesLikeABrick> R0cK3T  ./scriptname
[05:22] <UKMatt> Does anyone know
[05:22] <juergenkarl> !ubuntu
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:22] <Arafangion> TBNolan: One tends to install their favorite tcl interpreter.
[05:22] <R0cK3T> alright
[05:22] <juergenkarl> !linux
[05:22] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[05:22] <Arafangion> TBNolan: Normally, these days, most people install a binding so that they can use it in their favorite language, rather than use TCL directly.
[05:22] <kewagi> did anyone here manage to install amavisd-new successfully? I could use a little help.
[05:22] <glick> hey does anyone here use ekiga?
[05:23] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan try sudo apt-get install tcllib tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev
[05:23] <TBNolan> Arafangion: well, i'd like to use my eggdrop bot on my ubuntu server. It needs tcl to compile
[05:23] <Arafangion> TBNolan: But take a look at: apt-cache search tcl | grep tcl | less
[05:23] <meal3837> !mplayer
[05:23] <viator> id use ekiga if i could call pots for free
[05:23] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[05:23] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:23] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan I've helped someone install TCL before, I just don't remember the exact packagenames
[05:23] <Arafangion> TBNolan: Then try apt-get install tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev
[05:23] <Arafangion> TBNolan: But I have never used tcl.
[05:23] <TBNolan> i will do so
[05:23] <FliesLikeABrick> beat you to it Arafangion  ;)
[05:23] <viator> so i  use skpye for now
[05:23] <meal3837> !codecs
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[05:23] <Jamminpotato> is there any program like fruity loops studio for linux?
[05:24] <UKMatt> does anyone know the name of that program/package that takes anything you install yourself and keeps it in synaptic?
[05:24] <Arafangion> TBNolan: Mind you, eggdrop exists for ubuntu
[05:24] <viator> fruity loops
[05:24] <viator> heh
[05:24] <TBNolan> Arafangion: i have also tried to apt-get install eggdrop
[05:24] <TBNolan> but was lost after that completed
[05:24] <TBNolan> didn't know where my config file was or anything like that
[05:24] <glick> any ekiga users?
[05:24] <Arafangion> TBNolan: YOu don't need to compile your own - however, if you really do need the latest version, you could try cheeting, and use: apt-get build-dep eggdrop
[05:24] <kewagi> !amavis
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amavis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Arafangion> TBNolan: Which should get all the dependencies needed to build that version of eggdrop - you can then assume/hope that the latest version hasn't changed their deps.
[05:25] <FliesLikeABrick> good call Arafangion I didn't even think of that
[05:25] <TBNolan> thanks for the advice, Arafangion
[05:25] <Shuvelhasser> wow
[05:25] <Shuvelhasser> btw
[05:25] <Shuvelhasser> I got wine working
[05:26] <Shuvelhasser> kinda
[05:26] <Arafangion> Shuvelhasser: Wine never ceases to amaze me.
[05:26] <FliesLikeABrick> any progress is good progress
[05:26] <Shuvelhasser> wine doesn't like xfire
[05:26] <Shuvelhasser> I just figured out
[05:26] <viator> try lmms
[05:26] <viator> or somthing
[05:26] <Arafangion> Shuvelhasser: As a rule, any app that talks to hardware is not likely to work with wine.
[05:26] <Shuvelhasser> This is the most ghetto thing I've ever seen
[05:26] <Jamminpotato> is there any program like fruity loops studio for linux?
[05:27] <FliesLikeABrick> Jamminpotato I'm guessing thats a sound editing/composing program?
[05:27] <FliesLikeABrick> like a music recording suite?
[05:27] <Jamminpotato> yea kinda
[05:27] <chris86wm> when I shutdown my ubuntu laptop, I get "
[05:27] <chris86wm> unregister_netdevice: waiting for eth1 to become free. Usage count = 1" as an error and the laptop fails to complete the shutdown. this text keeps scrolling and i have to shutdown by pushing the power button. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:27] <Arafangion> FliesLikeABrick: A sound _editing_ platform, afaik.
[05:27] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks Arafangion
[05:27] <TBNolan> Arafangion, that worked perfectly. Thank you very much
[05:27] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm trying to remember the name of the one my brother uses
[05:27] <Jamminpotato> yea its not editing as much
[05:27] <chris86wm> more info here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243344
[05:28] <Jamminpotato> its really liek a sequencer i guesss, used mostly for techno composing
[05:28] <Homer> what is Emacs exactly
[05:28] <FliesLikeABrick> a text editor Homer
[05:28] <Homer> is it really?
[05:28] <sharky> how do i resolve this error: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:28] <sharky> i have libncurses.so.5 in /lib
[05:28] <chris86wm> anyone have any ideas?
[05:29] <meal3837> !libjack
[05:29] <sharky> and i've created symbolic links in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <atoponce> hmmm
[05:29] <meal3837> !libjack0.80.0
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjack0.80.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <cliffd> can someone give me an idea about how to get flash working? I tried using EasyUbuntu but I have no sound.
[05:29] <FliesLikeABrick> sharky do you have the kernel modules package installed for the kernel you're using?
[05:29] <smax> hi gang
[05:30] <StoneNote> Jamminpotato, lmms - Linux Multimedia Studio was written to be a fruity loops clone but since I haven't used either of them I cannot say how close they came
[05:30] <sharky> FliesLikeABrick, not sure can i search synaptic for kernel modules?
[05:30] <meal3837> it's times like these that I despair
[05:30] <FliesLikeABrick> hm sharky I wasn't thinking straight and I doubt that is your problem, I got two things confused in my head
[05:31] <meal3837> it's like I can't even make printed directions work
[05:31] <meal3837> :(
[05:31] <cajun> does anyone know where i could find the opensource Linux Cisco VPN?  i've tried a google search but couldn't find it
[05:31] <Jamminpotato> StoneNote, thanks
[05:31] <Homer> Emacs seems to do everything possible and more
[05:31] <Homer> ?
[05:31] <StoneNote> yw'
[05:31] <FliesLikeABrick> that seems to be the impression I get Homer, yes
[05:31] <sharky> FliesLikeABrick, there's gotta be a way to tell the application where the shared object file is right?
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> sharky have you checked if the file exists on your system?
[05:32] <glick> hey can i try out ekiga with someone?
[05:32] <kurruption> how do i edit the bootloader's list?
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> kurruption sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lsg
[05:32] <rcmiv>   /quit
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> er
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> kurruption sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:33] <sharky> FliesLikeABrick, yes its a bunch of symbolic links which all eventually point to /lib/libncurses.so.5.5
[05:33] <kurruption> kk tahanks
[05:34] <meal3837> mplayer seems to be a defunct package
[05:34] <meal3837> it's like none of the dependencies are available
[05:34] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here know how to use the tivo functionality in mplayer?
[05:34] <TBNolan> so heres a linux n00b question: how do i delete a full directory? that is a directory that is not empty
[05:35] <FliesLikeABrick> TBNolan rm -rf /dirnam
[05:35] <Arafangion> Homer: Except it's nearly damned impossible to learn it quickly!
[05:35] <infidel> so FliesLikeABrick what do you think, you think i should go to a 32 bit?
[05:35] <Arafangion> TBNolan: mv directory archive
[05:35] <Arafangion> TBNolan: Then archive it. :)
[05:35] <Homer> yeah I'm confused by the fact that Emacs can actually edit text
[05:35] <glick> is there anyway i can remotely edit a document with someone else?
[05:35] <FliesLikeABrick> infidel if the 64 bit isn't doing what you need and you can't find any other solution, yes.  Though I don't know much about 64 bit
[05:35] <Arafangion> TBNolan: Then, finally, optionally, delete it using rm -r
[05:35] <Arafangion> TBNolan: But I stress archiving it - CD's are only 50c per 700 MB, anyway.
[05:36] <glick> ekiga!
[05:36] <glick> !ekiga
[05:36] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[05:36] <Homer> so Emacs edits text
[05:37] <Homer> as in, a text editor
[05:37] <meal3837> !codecs
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[05:37] <TBNolan> Arafangion i just installed eggdrop into my / directory on accident
[05:37] <TBNolan> and i gotta get rid of the /scripts and /modules dir's it put there :-P
[05:37] <Arafangion> Homer: It's not for no reason that people call it a decent OS.
[05:39] <Homer> yeah
[05:39] <Homer> text editor with a 6000 page manual
[05:40] <Arafangion> Homer: You found the manual?
[05:40] <Homer> yeah
[05:40] <Homer> it's huge
[05:40] <Homer> it might crash emacs when you open it so be careful
[05:40] <Arafangion> Homer: All OS's have large manuals.
[05:40] <Homer> hehe
[05:40] <Crippy-Boy> I find emacs overkill, either that or im just too lazy to learn it.
[05:40] <BigToe> o/ internets, sleeping
[05:41] <Crippy-Boy> nano with syntax highlighting enabled works just fine for me :-)
[05:41] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: I've wanted to learn it, but have been unable to find a quick, down-to-earth guide as to how to use it for C coding.
[05:41] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: vim, for me :)
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> Crippy-Boy nano has syntax highlighting?
[05:41] <Crippy-Boy> hehe
[05:41] <tyler_d> where are the nautilus-scripts kept?
[05:41] <Crippy-Boy> FliesLikeABrick: Yes.
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> holy crap it has syntax highlighting *looks at /etc/nanorc*
[05:41] <Arafangion> It seems that the biggest advantage of emacs is the elisp framework.
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> this makes me happy
[05:42] <eyequeue> nano is noce for what it intends to accomplish
[05:42] <Arafangion> FliesLikeABrick: Doesn't have folding, though ;)
[05:42] <eyequeue> nice
[05:42] <Homer> I found the best description of emacs so far
[05:42] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Too lazy to learn that too, just never bothered with it, Nano for quick dirty hacks and if its a big-ish project fire up code::blocks.
[05:42] <eyequeue> vim is my usual choice though
[05:42] <Homer> emacs is emacs
[05:43] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: All you have to realise is that vim is a modal editor - with a command (default) mode and an insert mode. You enter insert mode - from that point on, it's exactly like any other editor.
[05:43] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: To enter commands again, press esc :)
[05:43] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: yeah, i guess i should fire it up, just never been to interested
[05:43] <fiveiron> hrmrmr... I added "exec" to my fstab line for this hdd, but i still can't execute code on it... is there something different i need to put there?
[05:43] <BluR_> Does anyone know where i can find this information: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html   => "TODO: This section should cover configuring SMTP AUTH with exim4."
[05:43] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, and you need to know :wq to write and quit, when done, heh
[05:44] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: :wq, is a command, btw, thus, use command mode for that. :)
[05:44] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: aslong as i have syntax highlighting and i can enter/open/save text its all good, but ill fire vim up later and mess around
[05:44] <fiveiron> or ZZ
[05:44] <viator> nano
[05:44] <viator> ha
[05:44] <rx> Private message me if: U know how to run Xprogram commands at the start of Xorg, or Fluxbox for that matter
[05:45] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: imho, there's little point in switching.
[05:45] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, i recomend running 'vimtutor' at least once, actually
[05:45] <Crippy-Boy> viator: whats wrong with nano for little things.
[05:45] <rx> i tired ~/.fluxbox/startup but didnt wrk
[05:45] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: I highly recommend running screen, multiple xterms, and specialized programs for specialized purposes.
[05:45] <viator> nothing :D
[05:45] <fiveiron> hrmrmr... I added "exec" to my fstab line for this hdd, but i still can't execute code on it... is there something different i need to put there?
[05:45] <dkjfkdjfad> hellprivmsg
[05:45] <MKR> I heard in the offtopic channel that someone was causing ruckus in here
[05:46] <dkjfkdjfad> hi
[05:46] <rx> does ubuntu use xinitrc file?
[05:46] <wastrel> lunix
[05:47] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: lol, i dont really do much 'serious' hacking, just stuff to make my life easier.
[05:47] <viator> heard they were working on a new init
[05:47] <MKR> D:
[05:47] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: I make languages in my spare time.
[05:47] <eyequeue> viator, "startup" i believe its called
[05:47] <Eroick> crap, how do I make a Netgear wg111 work with ndiswrapper? I have done the blacklist thing, but it shows up as eth2, not wlan0 and it does not work!
[05:47] <viator> sounds interesting
[05:47] <holypax> need help
[05:47] <viator> and they are also working on quicker shutdown
[05:48] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: nice, must be pretty cool if your into that, writing compilers/interpreters never interested me much though
[05:48] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: I'm more into framework design.
[05:48] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: though i'd like to get into kernel hacking and the like
[05:48] <eyequeue> viator, "event-driven" being it's main feature, from what i read
[05:48] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: thats cool :-)
[05:48] <Shuvelhasser> so
[05:48] <Shuvelhasser> what's the equivilent of like
[05:48] <Shuvelhasser> c:\program files
[05:48] <viator> /usr/bin
[05:49] <eyequeue> Shuvelhasser, what is it intended to do?
[05:49] <Shuvelhasser> I'm just lookin around =] 
[05:49] <holypax> can i use the XGL for my laptop ,ps:video card is ati 9000
[05:49] <Shuvelhasser> for like, where programs would be installed
[05:49] <R0cK3T> can someone tell me how to delete a folder
[05:49] <R0cK3T> rmdir isn't working
[05:49] <billytwowilly> what's the command to install the development environment? ie gcc?
[05:49] <eyequeue> !xgl > holypax
[05:49] <Crippy-Boy> rm -r
[05:49] <viator> rm -fr
[05:49] <viator> rf
[05:49] <R0cK3T> ?
[05:49] <FliesLikeABrick> billytwowilly sudo apt-get install gcc g++
[05:49] <Arafangion> billytwowilly: Ubuntu *is* the development environment.
[05:49] <wastrel> R0cK3T:  the directory needs to be empty for rmdir to work
[05:49] <nalioth> billytwowilly: install "build-essential"
[05:49] <R0cK3T> heh
[05:49] <eyequeue> billytwowilly, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:49] <R0cK3T> so how do i empty it?
[05:50] <DarkMageZ> R0cK3T, it's not rmdir :P it's rm -r foldername
[05:50] <mainer> billytwowilly: you mean the build-essential pkg?
[05:50] <R0cK3T> haha
[05:50] <billytwowilly> eyequeue: that's tit! thanks!
[05:50] <R0cK3T> it gets better by the minute
[05:50] <eyequeue> billytwowilly, no prob
[05:50] <nalioth> billytwowilly: you're welcome
[05:50] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: Especially when people mention tits.
[05:50] <Ogus> test
[05:50] <DarkMageZ> Arafangion, that is not appropriate here
[05:50] <holypax> eyequeue thx
[05:51] <viator> ( . ) ( , )
[05:51] <Arafangion> DarkMageZ: Sorry!
[05:51] <eyequeue> holypax, sure ,they know more about that than we do here, heh
[05:51] <wastrel> rm has no undo, so be careful with it
[05:51] <wastrel> rm -rf is the source of many "oops" moments
[05:51] <infidel> anyone here running 32bit ubuntu on a 64 bit proccessor?
[05:51] <glick> anyone have an ekiga account?
[05:52] <holypax> eyequeue yep
[05:52] <Crippy-Boy> infidel: no, but it will be no different than a 32 bit processor.
[05:52] <Arafangion> glick: I've got one - never used it, though.
[05:53] <R0cK3T> rm -r =descend into write-protected directory `Quake_III_Arena'?
[05:53] <meal3837> !purge
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <R0cK3T> i don't see how that removes it?
[05:53] <glick> Arafangion, can you call me?
[05:53] <infidel> Crippy-Boy: no advantage or dissadvantage either way huh?
[05:53] <glick> i wanna see how it works
[05:53] <Arafangion> glick: Sorry. :(
[05:53] <Ogus> I fried my gui on my computer and I'm using the Livecd now.  How can I get into my hard disk from the LiveCD to copy the Xorg.conf file to my hard drive? anyone know?
[05:54] <Arafangion> glick: But, try using the echo bot.
[05:54] <viator> meal trying to remove a .deb?
[05:54] <Arafangion> glick: I believe that he's in the faq.
[05:54] <infidel> Crippy-Boy: except for with 32bit i will have more apps to choose from
[05:54] <viator> like apt-get --purge remove packagename?
[05:54] <rx> so who is expert here??
[05:54] <R0cK3T> not me ;)
[05:54] <nalioth> rx: depends on your questions
[05:54] <eyequeue> meal3837, you may want sudo dpkg --purge foo
[05:54] <Crippy-Boy> infidel: I know that, my point was that running a 32 bit os on a 64 bit cpu will be no different than running it on a 32 bit processor.
[05:54] <Homer> WHOA
[05:54] <Homer> emacs is awesome
[05:55] <Homer> once you learn the basics
[05:56] <Arafangion> Homer: The basics amount to nothing that I can already do with vim. It's the "advanced" stuff that takes freaking forever to learn :(
[05:56] <Homer> yeah vim is awesome too
[05:56] <Homer> it's very different from windows tools
[05:56] <nalioth> Homer: and you and Arafangion take your vim and emacs to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[05:56] <Arafangion> Homer: They all suck.
[05:56] <Homer> nalioth, np
[05:57] <infidel> Crippy-Boy: i'm sorry did i make that sound like a statement actually it was a question. so, running a 32 bit os on a 64 bit proccessor won't cause me to loose over a 64 bit os?
[05:57] <rx> what file start fluxbox under X???????
[05:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> what do i need to play wmv's in totem?
[05:58] <bannedbruenig> !restricted
[05:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:58] <nalioth> !tell ISOLATEDViRuS about w32codecs
[05:58] <eyequeue> !wmv > ISOLATEDViRuS
[05:58] <buffalodavid> one question from the newbie: If you could give one piece of advice to said nebie... what would it be?
[05:58] <rx> cuz i need to put commands in there to run at startup
[05:58] <eyequeue> lol, three different names for the same factoid, heh
[05:59] <infidel> bannedbruenig: lol, sorry just want to get the best performance from my 64 bit proccessor. the question is will it run a 32 bit os just as fast as it will a 64 bit os
[05:59] <wastrel> buffalodavid:  learn the command line
[05:59] <eyequeue> buffalodavid, don't be adraid to learn, read, etc
[05:59] <viator> ISOLATEDViRuS i suggest you install totem-xine and the firefoxplugin over
[05:59] <viator> gstreamer
[05:59] <viator> seems to work better
[05:59] <bannedbruenig> infidel, I haven't seen much difference. There may be some drop but it is not immediately noticable at least not by me
[06:00] <eyequeue> buffalodavid, yes, commandline will be your friend, as wastrel said
[06:00] <infidel> bannedbruenig: your have an 64 bit proccessor running a 32 bit os?
[06:00] <buffalodavid> years ago I was pretty good at unix comand lines hope it will come back
[06:00] <bannedbruenig> infidel, yes
[06:00] <feross> hey, can I set only directories to drwrr-xr-x then all the files to rw-r--r-- recursively? I tried chmod -R but it does all files and directories
[06:00] <glitch-> i am trying to configure a vpn server..poptop...i believe..
[06:01] <Ogus> I think I found my hard drive but its locked - think its /dev sda - but its locked - I have Ubuntu installed on my HD but the graphics configuration is messed up and wont let me in -- is it possible for me to transfer files from this Live ubuntu I am runing now to my hard disk so that it will boot up ok? I don't know any command that will reset my X server - the configration is messed up
[06:01] <infidel> bannedbruenig: ok if it's good enough for you it will be good enough for me
[06:01] <eyequeue> feross, no such thing, it's either/or
[06:01] <Homer> hey what is a good tutorial for bash command line
[06:01] <glitch-> anyone familiar with it?
[06:01] <glitch-> =)
[06:01] <buffalodavid> windows made me lazy
[06:01] <viator> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:01] <eyequeue> feross, but you could write a bash script to check -f or -d filetype, and act accordingly, i suppose
[06:01] <glitch-> i need to configure the poptop config file but i am not sure what localip and remoteip are for
[06:02] <viator> @Ogus
[06:02] <Crippy-Boy> Bah, whats with all the windows bashing.
[06:02] <Homer> all the cool people use linux
[06:02] <bannedbruenig> windows made you ignorant, not lazy. There is a difference. Laziness implies it did everything for you where more correctly it hid everything you could do in order to promote "ease of use"
[06:02] <Homer> hwhat is a good tutorial for bash command line?
[06:02] <wastrel> !cli
[06:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:02] <_EriK> yes, we do, homer
[06:03] <Homer> thanks
[06:03] <Arafangion> Homer: The Advanced Bash Guide on tldp is the best, imho.
[06:03] <R0cK3T> rm -r foldername definitely doesn't delete a dir
[06:03] <R0cK3T> can anyone tell me how to remove a dir with other sub dirs
[06:03] <R0cK3T> there has to be an easier way !!!1
[06:03] <Crippy-Boy> The 'i hate MS' bandwagon really annoys me. If you dont like something dont use it, simple as.
[06:03] <bannedbruenig> R0cK3T, yes it does, make sure you are in the right directory when you use it
[06:04] <eyequeue> R0cK3T, man rm
[06:04] <_EriK> rock: rm -rf $target
[06:04] <juergenkarl> sudo rm -rf /
[06:04] <feross> eyequeue: yeah, I think I might be able to do something like  'find . -type d |xargs chmod 766' am not sure.. I guess I'll give it a shot
[06:04] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: I hate Visual Studio, but I *have* to use it.
[06:04] <R0cK3T> rm: descend into write-protected directory `Quake_III_Arena'? n
[06:04] <bannedbruenig> juergenkarl,
[06:04] <kyle_> i am in need of assistance
[06:04] <juergenkarl> bannedbruenig,
[06:04] <bannedbruenig> R0cK3T, you need to use sudo
[06:04] <glitch-> are those both what the vpn server will act as, or is it what the remote client's ip will be it seems ambigious to me
[06:04] <eyequeue> juergenkarl, please do NOT type that in here!  (no one do that!)
[06:04] <R0cK3T> descend into write protected dir?
[06:04] <R0cK3T> im already root!
[06:04] <vapermonkey00> Is there a quake 3 download for ubuntu and if so where can i find it, i have the game and i cant get wine to installit
[06:05] <R0cK3T> actually
[06:05] <R0cK3T> maybe not :/
[06:05] <R0cK3T> lol
[06:05] <Ogus> can I access my HD (that has Ubuntu installed
[06:05] <eyequeue> feross, i was going to recommend find as well, but know that it's man page throws many off (quite powerful though, with xargs)
[06:05] <bannedbruenig> juergenkarl, if you want to know where I got the prefix banned, it came from a replication of that there
[06:05] <R0cK3T> hahahahahaha awsome
[06:05] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: In the same way im stuck using windows now and then (for college mainly) but fanboys of any kind do my head in, Theres nothing wrong with liking something but it doesnt mean you have to hate everything else.
[06:05] <Ogus> can I access my HD (that has Ubuntu installed) via my Unbuntu live that is running right now?
[06:05] <lufis> What's hangin peeps!
[06:05] <R0cK3T> finally got something to work :P
[06:05] <lufis> Ogus: sure can
[06:06] <kyle_> i have a dual head setup, using the onboard agp graphics and a pci nvidia card
[06:06] <eyequeue> Ogus, mount /dev/hda5 or whatever, sure
[06:06] <Crippy-Boy> Personally i like all os's as they create competition for each other and and we benifit from it.
[06:06] <Ogus> ok thx man
[06:06] <glitch-> i am trying to configure a vpn server ..poptop..i believe..i need to configure the poptop config file but i am not sure what localip and remoteip are for are those both what the vpn server will act as, or is it what the remote client's ip will be it seems ambigious to me
[06:06] <D00B3Y> how to upgrade from 386 to i686? I reformatted recently, and last time it did it automatically..
[06:06] <R0cK3T> thanx you
[06:06] <lufis> D00B3Y: The kernel?
[06:06] <eyequeue> D00B3Y, what do you want, a kernel?
[06:06] <D00B3Y> I think.
[06:07] <D00B3Y> I want it to be like before, i686
[06:07] <lufis> D00B3Y: Install the 686 kernel package from synaptic
[06:07] <kyle_> my problem is that video and games only show up on one monitor, and when i move the window to the other monitor all that shows is a gray box
[06:07] <eyequeue> D00B3Y, there would not be an "automatic" kernel upgrade of that sort, so you may mean something else
[06:07] <vapermonkey00> no quake 3 ancers
[06:08] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: I personally feel that the fundamental issue is that the MS fanboys are so <censored> annoying.
[06:08] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: It's alright being a Linux fanboy, or a Mac fanboy, but the MS fanboys often don't even *acknowledge* that alternatives even exist.
[06:08] <TBNolan> anyone familiar with eggdrop? how can i start my eggy on reboot/startup?
[06:08] <mici> Hi all !
[06:08] <D00B3Y> TBNolan: set up crontab
[06:08] <lufis> Hi mici!
[06:09] <Arafangion> D00B3Y: Wrong answer.
[06:09] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Just as alot of mac/linux fanboys refuse to believe that theres anyting wrong with their os's
[06:09] <lalocura> holas
[06:09] <mici> Folks I would like to ask if anybody has a netzero.deb somewhere -I need to install ubuntu on an old friends PC tomorrow and she uses netzero
[06:09] <D00B3Y> Arafangion: what do you suggest? services?
[06:09] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: Well, with Mac OS X, they'd be right ;)
[06:09] <lalocura> alguien q hable espaol?
[06:09] <Arafangion> D00B3Y: crontab is not a good solution to starting up something that should only start *once*
[06:09] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: no they wouldn't.
[06:09] <eyequeue> TBNolan, actually, if you'll read the docs, it does recommend a cron job
[06:09] <eyequeue> !es > lalocura
[06:09] <TBNolan> is that the best option?
[06:09] <mici> apparently netzero cant be used with simple ppp only with this dialer which uses java...
[06:09] <D00B3Y> Arafangion: read what he wrote " how can i start my eggy on reboot/startup?"
[06:10] <OmegaNine> I am trying to use csplit to split up files, but I need to split it up by "-***-" and it thinks that im trying to pass it another paramiter.  Any know a work around for that?
[06:10] <eyequeue> TBNolan, the docs recommend it, so i would say probably yes
[06:10] <lalocura> speak spanish??????
[06:10] <viator> theres a dialup isp for like $5
[06:10] <viator> called stowe telecom
[06:10] <bannedbruenig> windows is a more hated target because of their monopolistic practices, other OSes don't have that extra target
[06:10] <Arafangion> D00B3Y: Doesn't crontab only start something every X period of time?
[06:10] <eyequeue> lalocura, read what ubotu told you
[06:10] <eyequeue> !es
[06:10] <viator> dont need any software
[06:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:10] <viator> just configure ppp
[06:10] <lalocura> ok
[06:10] <D00B3Y> Arafangion: it checks to see if it is open every X period of time, if it is not, it opens it.
[06:10] <lalocura> thanks
[06:10] <D00B3Y> TBNolan: http://support.sh3lls.net/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=47&nav=+%26gt%3B+%3Ca+href%3D%27index.php%3F_a%3Dknowledgebase%26_j%3Dsubcat%26_i%3D3%27%3EShell+Hosting%3C%2Fa%3E+%26gt%3B+%3Ca+href%3D%27index.php%3F_a%3Dknowledgebase%26_j%3Dsubcat%26_i%3D5%27%3EEggdrop%3C%2Fa%3E
[06:11] <bannedbruenig> Crontab does not work here because he is talking about an event, startup not a time frame
[06:11] <Arafangion> bannedbruenig: THe point I was making is that while the Mac fanboy might say their OS is the best, they do acknowledge that Windows (1) Exists (2) is in use, and (3) Often accomodate the windows file formats.
[06:11] <Arafangion> bannedbruenig: The windows fanboys would flat out deny the relevance of Mac.
[06:11] <bannedbruenig> Arafangion, nevermind on the crontab thing, I get what you are saying, seems kind of unnecessary though
[06:11] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: There are plenty of problems with os x, people just refuse to admit it.
[06:11] <Arafangion> bannedbruenig: Heck, my web design tutor, a MS fanboy, didn't even know what apache is.
[06:12] <Arafangion> bannedbruenig: Afterall, everybody uses IIS
[06:12] <Arafangion> (Version 6.0, please)
[06:12] <lufis> IIs, ick. Myspace runs that... need i say more?
[06:12] <D00B3Y> bannedbruenig: well crontab starts with system, so It would work
[06:12] <eyequeue> lufis, you have a creative way of making a point, heh
[06:12] <xhaan> myspace is craptacular :p
[06:13] <gre1> i don run any
[06:13] <Crippy-Boy> Myspace would be ok if people had some idea about colour contrast and what makes you want to pull your eyes out with a rusty spoon.
[06:13] <eyequeue> apache2 (from dapper) runs here
[06:14] <Crippy-Boy> And it wasn't full of emo's
[06:14] <simtower> any chance someone can help me restore grub to my MBR... i am getting an error when i try to do what is in the FAQ
[06:14] <Crippy-Boy> and the templates used valid css.
[06:14] <Crippy-Boy> :D
[06:14] <Arafangion> eyequeue: The OBSD version is secure, and chrooted by default for good measure :)
[06:14] <bannedbruenig> Crippy-Boy, I love backgrounds full of pictures that make text unreadablye, You don't? You are the weirdo
[06:14] <xhaan> Crippy-Boy, i just meant that it doesnt work right half the time
[06:14] <eyequeue> Arafangion, sounds like an obsd app, heh
[06:14] <gre1> simtower: whenever i break grubb i install anoother linux
[06:14] <mici> viator, yeah but how do I get online once at her house?
[06:14] <glick> hey what sound daemon does ubuntu use?
[06:14] <gre1> im so lazy
[06:14] <glick> alsa?
[06:14] <Arafangion> eyequeue: Yes, it's a tad minimal, that's for damn sure.
[06:15] <simtower> lol gre1 it is pretty easy to fix if you have a floppy drive but i don't have one
[06:15] <gre1> neither do i
[06:15] <lufis> glick: ESD
[06:15] <Crippy-Boy> bannedbruenig: Yeah, i love them about as much as i love tooth ache.
[06:15] <mici> viator, But thanks for the tip - I might just call them though...
[06:15] <eyequeue> Arafangion, for an admin, i guess the idea is they can figure the rest out, heh ... a bit different from ubuntu's mindset
[06:15] <glick> how can i choose esd in ekiga, it only allows me to select alsa
[06:16] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/# ls
[06:16] <Ogus> bin  boot  cdrom  dev  etc  home  initrd  initrd.img  lib  media  mnt  opt  proc  rofs  root  sbin  srv  sys  tmp  usr  var  vmlinuz
[06:16] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/# sudo mount /dev/sda
[06:16] <Ogus> mount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:16] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/# cd dev
[06:16] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/dev# dir s
[06:16] <lufis> glick: ESD and ALSA have separate functions
[06:16] <Ogus> dir: s: No such file or directory
[06:16] <Arafangion> eyequeue: Ubuntu's mindset is far better for desktop systems, imho.
[06:16] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/dev# mount sda
[06:16] <Ogus> mount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:16] <Arafangion> eyequeue: Servers are inherently different.
[06:16] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/dev# sudo mount sda
[06:16] <Ogus> mount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:16] <eyequeue> !paste > Ogus
[06:16] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/dev#
[06:16] <Ogus> what am I doing wrong?
[06:16] <bannedbruenig> first you are not using pastebin
[06:16] <BluR_> Does anyone know where i can find this information: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html   => "TODO: This section should cover configuring SMTP AUTH with exim4."
[06:16] <Ogus> saves some time
[06:16] <gre1> i now run linux inside windows cause its a loteasier for if i break somtin
[06:16] <mici> Ongus: fstab -l /dev/sda
[06:17] <Ogus> ok
[06:17] <eyequeue> Arafangion, bear in mind, each arch has a servercd, as one of the 3 cds :)
[06:17] <Arafangion> Ogus: Second, you flooded the channel.
[06:17] <cherubiel> Ogus: specify the partition nos too, can't mount sda
[06:17] <mici> Ongus You want to mount the whole drive not only a partition?
[06:17] <irawan> Ogus: use should try /dev/sda1 /mount/point/
[06:17] <lufis> glick: AFAIK, ESD mixes sound, ALSA interfaces with the soundcard
[06:17] <Ogus> sorry if I flooded the channel
[06:17] <marshall> hey guys
[06:17] <lufis> Hi marshall
[06:18] <gre1> Ogus: i dont accept ure appology
[06:18] <mici> Ogus, fstab -l will give you all the partitions on the drive - except if theres evms or lvm2 on it - then you need to search in /dev/evms/lvm2/SOMEWHEREHERE
[06:18] <Ogus> I'll just reinstall the whole thing again -
[06:18] <viator> mici on the netzero site i tired to download the software but they wont allow me to unless i have an acct
[06:18] <xhaan> you probably dont have to do that... unless you want to
[06:18] <marshall> in abiword-gnome, if you want the page to be in the middle of all the grey space behind it, what do you do?
[06:18] <Ogus> sorry again didnt think cutting and pasting was bad - first time on this
[06:18] <filipf> hello everyone
[06:18] <marshall> Ogus: dont worry about it man
[06:19] <filipf> do you guys have any experience with setting up software raid in dapper?
[06:19] <Arafangion> eyequeue: I'd better stop, otherwise this will become a rant against Ubuntu by me :)
[06:19] <marshall> hi filipf
[06:19] <eyequeue> Ogus, now you know, and i appreciate your apology, polite is good :)
[06:19] <mici> viator, Yeahh... I tried that too-but see I dont have her credentials either - how stupid is that - use netzero - but you can only download it once you have an acc with it - how do U sign up than?
[06:19] <bannedbruenig> it is just hard to see what your problem was because there were 3-4 posts in between your list of commands
[06:19] <Arafangion> eyequeue: My fav server distro is Debian, though Ubuntu is fantastic for desktops.
[06:19] <eyequeue> Arafangion, the way i see it, each has its place/purpose :)  i've run both
[06:19] <irawan> Ogus: what exactly you want to do?
[06:19] <Arafangion> eyequeue: Cool :)
[06:19] <mici> If I am online I wouldnt care about netzero any more...
[06:19] <eyequeue> Arafangion, both meaning obsd, but also debian :)
[06:20] <filipf> i have two 250GB drives, and i used mdadm to create an array. the problem is it takes forever to sync (like 3 days) due to slow transfer rate
[06:20] <viator> ya have to provide a CC
[06:20] <Arafangion> eyequeue: Admittably, I'd be running Debian instead of Ubuntu if it weren't for Debian's <censored> hardware support in Etch.
[06:20] <viator> #
[06:20] <gre1> i havnt found the right distro yet
[06:20] <filipf> do you know what could be wrong?
[06:20] <viator> get a credit card # genrator lol
[06:20] <viator> like we did in the good ole days
[06:20] <eyequeue> Arafangion, actually, i triple booted debian/obsd/fbsd on one box, heh
[06:20] <bannedbruenig> dreamlinux when it gets a bit more stable and writes some good english documentation looks promising
[06:20] <mici> viator, :))
[06:21] <Arafangion> eyequeue: Would you recommend obsd on any actual servers these days, though? :/ (RAID, etc)
[06:21] <Ogus> I was trying to install my nvidia driver to 3d acceleration and it messed up my x server configuration so I can get past the terminal to the gnome desktop - I thought if I copy the configuration files to the hard drive via the LiveCD it would solve the problem for me
[06:21] <gre1> mslinux
[06:21] <eyequeue> viator, just a hint before it goes far, talk of illegal activities are a no-no in this channel :)
[06:21] <Arafangion> eyequeue: I mean, real servers, not desktop/laptops recycled as a server.
[06:21] <mici> viator, Its easier If I just set up my box for dialin and ppp to my server - once online ask for her ceredentials and download the stuff - its just too complicated - I figured somebody whould have a netzer.deb and I would just have to toss it on ubuntu...
[06:22] <eyequeue> Arafangion, i don't want to bash them here either but ... one word: "theo" (meaning no)
[06:22] <Ogus> this is the third time using the forums to set up my nvidia 6800 that it has messed the deasktop interface up
[06:22] <lufis> Ogus: is there a backup file in the conf directory?
[06:22] <Ogus> I dont know man I jsut left windows for good last wek so im a noob
[06:22] <Arafangion> eyequeue: Enter privmsg?
[06:22] <eyequeue> Arafangion, good idea
[06:22] <lufis> Ogus: Ah, are you at the command line on the pc now?
[06:22] <Ogus> yea
[06:23] <Crippy-Boy> One thing i don't understand with ubuntu is why the defualt install doesnt come with a compiler, even server install.
[06:23] <Ogus> im using the liveCD
[06:23] <mondo> What's the shell command to list connected usb devices?
[06:23] <gre1> i cant switch to linux completlt untill wine works good
[06:23] <UKMatt> has anyone ever installed swiftfox?
[06:23] <Crippy-Boy> Nearly put me off a bit first time i used it, I tried to compile something and realised there was no compiler, my initial reaction was 'eh?'
[06:23] <cruddpuppet> can someone help me with apache and ubuntu
[06:24] <bannedbruenig> UKMatt, yeah using it right now
[06:24] <irawan> Ogus: try to copy the config to a floppy or usbflash
[06:24] <Sir_Sid> Hi, Is it possible to play .wmv videos in linux?
[06:24] <cruddpuppet> has anyone used apache for ubuntu
[06:24] <UKMatt> bannedbruenig, i downloaded and unpacked it, but can't figure out how to 'install' it, can you help me out
[06:24] <bannedbruenig> UKMatt, there is a .deb on the swiftfox website specifically for ubuntu now, before you had to use the source
[06:24] <flowmac> some .wmv play in vlc
[06:24] <gre1> Sir_Sid: anything is possible in linux
[06:24] <mici> modno lsusb
[06:24] <mici> mondo lsusb
[06:24] <Crippy-Boy> Sir_Sid: yes, you have to install the codecs, look on the wiki
[06:24] <Sir_Sid> ok thank you
[06:24] <bannedbruenig> UKMatt, what processor?
[06:24] <flowmac> yeah and use the win32codecs
[06:24] <graeme> anybody have a sec to help a n00b?
[06:24] <UKMatt> bannedbruenig, p4
[06:25] <mondo> thanks Mici!
[06:25] <cruddpuppet> apache help anyone
[06:25] <flowmac> i dont think encrypted wmv play though...
[06:25] <cruddpuppet> apache help anyone
[06:25] <mici> So nobody has netzero.deb by any chance ???
[06:25] <bannedbruenig> UKMatt, http://getswiftfox.com/builds/ubuntu/1.5.0.6/swiftfox_1.5.0.6-1ubuntu_pentium4.deb, just open it with gdebi or if that isn't an option save it to disk then do sudo dpkg -i filename
[06:25] <Crippy-Boy> Anyone know why exactly ubuntu doesnt come with a compiler? (just a random question, not trying to critisize ubuntu)
[06:25] <infidel> i'm going to install the 32 bit version, i should have to format my home directory right? it's on a totally seperate partition
[06:26] <irawan> graeme: what's your problem?
[06:26] <gre1> cruddpuppet: try #apache
[06:26] <cruddpuppet> thanks
[06:26] <carpenoctem> hey everybody
[06:26] <mici> infidel, You dont have to format it
[06:26] <glick> can someone help me configure ekiga?
[06:26] <UKMatt> bannedbruenig, ty that was much easier
[06:27] <graeme> i'm installing on a 3rd hd, but the bootloader doesn't show, when i change that drive to boot in bios  i get an error
[06:27] <graeme> which i wish i wrote down now
[06:27] <infidel> mici: ok thanks
[06:27] <carpenoctem> what's up in here?
[06:27] <bannedbruenig> UKMatt, the other way wasn't too difficult all you had to do was cd into the swiftfox directory and do ./swiftfox but this way seems to be cleaner and because it is .deb is now tracked by apt so that is good
[06:28] <TBNolan> quick question, is ubuntu set up to use a mySQL database?
[06:28] <mici> infidel, You might have to play with UID and GID-s though - make sure the new syetem has the same ID-s or just chown -R user:group /home/someuser
[06:29] <TBNolan> oh nevermind
[06:29] <ryedunn> Im having some issues with apt-get, I read this might be a bug but the article was 6mths old. "PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-4 is installed" any ideas how to get around this?
[06:29] <mici> Bye all - Good night folks...
[06:30] <infidel> mici ok
[06:30] <glick> i thought esd could play multiple sounds at once?
[06:31] <infidel> ok wish me luck got to go 32 bit
[06:31] <cliffd> anyone running myth tv on ubuntu?
[06:31] <glick> can someon try calling me through ekiga?
[06:32] <gre1> cliffd: i couldnt get mysq to work
[06:32] <ryedunn> cliffd working on that as we speak
[06:32] <simtower> any chance someone can help me restore grub to my MBR... the various HOWTOs do not have working info
[06:32] <cliffd> ryedunn: hows it going?
[06:32] <cliffd> gre1: did your mysql just keep dying?
[06:32] <ryedunn> not  even close yet
[06:33] <cliffd> ryedunn: haha. I know the feeling.
[06:33] <gre1> i couldnt connect
[06:33] <ryedunn> just installed ubuntu two days ago and apt is really fighting me
[06:33] <gre1> #mythtv-users should hlp u
[06:33] <cafuego> simtower: 'sudo grub'; 'root (hd0,0)'; 'setup (hd0)'
[06:34] <zeronenorez> can any buddy tell me what can i do if i meet this warning: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[06:34] <cafuego> simtower: Replace (hd0,0) with the actual partition info from where your grub lives. (The example is hda1)
[06:34] <cliffd> ah. Im just wondering if anyone got it working. I tried about 6 months ago and gave up
[06:34] <Crippy-Boy> zeronenorez: did you run ./configure first?
[06:34] <cliffd> zeronenorez: did you do ./configure ?
[06:34] <zeronenorez> yes
[06:34] <simtower> cafuego: thanks worked perfectly... =)
[06:34] <cliffd> zeronenorez: and did it succeed?
[06:35] <ryedunn> RH has some good documentation on mythtv, Ive been thinking about giving that a try.
[06:35] <zeronenorez> cliffd, maybe not , there are some no
[06:35] <cliffd> zeronenorez: some no's are fine
[06:36] <cliffd> zeronenorez: can you make a paste bin of the ./configure out put.. also what are you trying to build?
[06:36] <ryedunn> ST LOU
[06:36] <cliffd> zeronenorez: for instance if you have a no for something like jpeg support... library not found" that would be ok. you just wouldnt get jpeg support
[06:36] <TSP_X> Hi!
[06:37] <zeronenorez> cliffd, *try*
[06:37] <TSP_X> I just compile a new kernel reinstalled the nvidia drivers but the X wont start :(
[06:37] <gre1> TSP_X: samething happened to me on debian
[06:38] <TSP_X> i don't kow what to do now...
[06:38] <cafuego> of course, the other option is to just use the precompiled packages.
[06:38] <gre1> install a different version of x
[06:38] <the_hammer> hey guys
[06:39] <viator> try just using the vanilla kernel and reconfiguring x
[06:39] <the_hammer> whats the install command im trying to install xchat 2.6.6 in ubuntu using command installpkg blabla here
[06:39] <the_hammer> unknown command installpkg
[06:39] <the_hammer> ubuntu 6.06
[06:40] <cynical> the_hammer: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:40] <TSP_X> dpkg -i pack.deb
[06:40] <the_hammer> its on desktop
[06:40] <the_hammer> just dunno how to install
[06:40] <cynical> the_hammer: then yeah sudo dpkg -i packname.deb
[06:40] <TSP_X> sudo dpkg -i xchat.deb
[06:40] <American-Tech> I have a dell 2405 (24 inch widescreen) is there support for this in ubuntu?
[06:40] <vapermonkey00> how do i change a check sum
[06:40] <kevinG> how do i use .run files?
[06:40] <viator> the_hammer whats the difference from 2.6.1 to 2.6.6
[06:40] <cafuego> the_hammer: You don't need to download files by hand, the package managers do it all for you.
[06:40] <viator> i dont want to look at changelog
[06:41] <cafuego> American-Tech: Yes.
[06:41] <TSP_X> is there a way to compile the nvidia module?
[06:41] <Ogus> i'm still stumped - can't find out how to get to my hard drive from the liveCD that I am running now - nothin on the boards about it that I can find - its got to be simple, it won't mount.
[06:41] <the_hammer> well manager only has 0.11 or something i got it on desktop bbs
[06:41] <viator> the hammer newest version in the repos is 2.6.1
[06:41] <American-Tech> mmm I can't get the live cd to install
[06:42] <ubuntu_> living-partente
[06:42] <American-Tech> with the widescreen
[06:42] <viator> make sure you have all the repose
[06:42] <Ogus> american does your bios boot up your CD ROM first?
[06:42] <cafuego> American-Tech: jdub (Gnome developer, uses Ubuntu) has one. It works fine with his machine.
[06:42] <eugman> Is anyone free to edit the wiki?
[06:42] <cafuego> eugman: yep
[06:43] <eugman> Even making new pages?
[06:44] <American-Tech> I don't doubt that it does, I am just having troubles installing on mine
[06:44] <jman8888> ... (Please dont just say ubuntu.) But what is the best live cd for Booting Linux (From Cd) On a old Pc. (Win 98) Just to browse the net? (I go to the hospitial and i would like to have a Live cd to use)
[06:44] <marshall> in abiword-gnome, if you want the page to be in the middle of all the grey space behind it, what do you do?
[06:44] <zeronenorez> cliffd, thanks buddy, i think i can solve problem like that by myself,  :D
[06:44] <eugman> Actually I suppose there is no reason it wouldn't. Thanks
[06:44] <Lathiat> jman8888: ubuntu? ;) this is an ubuntu channel what do you expect ;p
[06:44] <Crippy-Boy> jman8888: Damn Small Linux :-)
[06:44] <Lathiat> jman8888: the only other rael popular one is knoppix
[06:44] <the_hammer> this is retarded i try to in stall xchat 2.6.6 says error about common so then tried installing the xchat (note have both the comman and the xchat 2.6.6)
[06:44] <viator> or puppy linux
[06:45] <the_hammer> get same error 1 missing the other
[06:45] <jman8888> Crippy-Boy, Does it support Dial-Up?
[06:45] <jman8888> viator, Were you talking to me?
[06:45] <viator> why a whole live cd distro just to surf
[06:45] <viator> use portable apps
[06:45] <jman8888> viator, Because i prefer my Linux tools
[06:45] <Crippy-Boy> jman8888: Never tried it but im sure it does.
[06:45] <viator> on a usb stick or cd
[06:45] <jman8888> Crippy-Boy, Ok i'll Try it.
[06:46] <viator> cause sometimes your not allowed to boot from cdrom
[06:46] <jman8888> viator, Either.
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jman8888: It does support dialup ..but, winmodems are a problem.
[06:46] <viator> you can find firefox
[06:46] <viator> etc
[06:46] <_lemsx1_> anybody using vmware on Edgy ?
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jman8888: I take it this is a lappy you are taking with you
[06:47] <Ogus> is there a IRC channel for Ubuntu noobs? or is this it?
[06:47] <viator> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
[06:47] <R0cK3T> anyone here have success installing quake 3 on ubuntu with amd 64 and ati card?
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Ogus: You are there.
[06:47] <Crippy-Boy> viator: he already said he wanted to use linux
[06:47] <Ogus> o
[06:47] <eyequeue> Ogus, this is the support channel there's also an offtopic channel
[06:48] <viator> crippy i understand that i was just shwoing him there is a means to run alot of your favorite oss apps in any invironment
[06:48] <Crippy-Boy> viator: alright.
[06:48] <viator> because sometimes you CANT boot a live cd
[06:48] <Crippy-Boy> viator: Yeah i get what you mean, I tried when i was in school, Man was that a mistake.
[06:48] <jman8888> Jack_Sparrow, I want to be able to use Linux anywhere but i want one that will support the Normal methods of Net connection. (Dial-Up & DSL) so dialup will work? Im thinking a Ubuntu 5.04 Live cd might work (It was FAST on 92mb Ram. and the cd said it needed 32...)
[06:49] <Ogus> I know my hard drive is /dev/sda cause its in the system>administration>disks menu as such but it has that RED X in the right hand corner of the icon
[06:49] <flake> hey, someone has to know this - trying to install 6.06 onto a laptop as dual boot - I get past the partioning, and when it gets to setting up the packages and installing, the lcd screen goes black with two cursors on it - one in the upper left corner and one near the middle
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jman8888: Yes knoppix supports both
[06:49] <Ogus> but the terminal wont let me get to it
[06:49] <Crippy-Boy> viator: the tutor nearly had a fit 'Whats that, THATS NOT WINDOWS, Your trying to hack the network!!! get away from the computer now!"
[06:49] <hammer_> sweet i did it
[06:49] <Crippy-Boy> :D
[06:49] <graeme> is there any reason why bootloader wouldn't work on a secondary disk?
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jman8888: You may pm me with Knoppix questions... Not on topic here in channel
[06:49] <R0cK3T> anyone here have success installing quake 3 on ubuntu with amd 64 and ati card?
[06:49] <jman8888> Jack_Sparrow, Is it fast even on old stuff? (Like a old windows98 pc)
[06:49] <viator> funny the word hack is considered a bad word
[06:50] <viator> when the first rule of "hacking" is do no harm?
[06:50] <Crippy-Boy> Yeup, because its taken out of context by media
[06:50] <bushblowz> Jack_Sparrow, may i PM you with a knoppix ? or to as well
[06:50] <flake> hacking is not evil but is the root of all evil
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jman8888: Please join #Jack_Sparrow to continue this conversation out of respect for the Ubuntu users here
[06:50] <Crippy-Boy> Depends how you define 'hacking'
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Sure bushblowz
[06:51] <flake> anyone have trouble installing on a laptop (gateway or other), getting a black screen with a cursor halfway thru the install?
[06:51] <the_hammer> lol ya ppl bark about hacking but people also bark about pirates to
[06:51] <R0cK3T> i got the dual boot to work on laptop
[06:51] <R0cK3T> hp laptop
[06:51] <Crippy-Boy> flake: not on here but i had it on my laptop, I had to edit my xorg.conf file.
[06:51] <flake> it doesn't see my router on the wireless network, dont kno if that has anything to do it
[06:51] <Crippy-Boy> on my mac*
[06:51] <viator> hp laptops work well with ubuntu
[06:52] <the_hammer> ppl have been a pirate far long before pc's were ever thought of much less made lol
[06:52] <viator> compaq as well since they are the same
[06:52] <DigitalNinja> I've been trying to use banshee to access an iPod and it's not working. It did work when it was hfs+ formated though. Any ideas?
[06:52] <cafuego> viator: Some do, yes.
[06:52] <SiliconViper> Filesystem question!
[06:52] <flake> couldnt set up my network during the install
[06:52] <Crippy-Boy> I love IBM thinkpads.
[06:52] <R0cK3T> do you see the network monitor?
[06:52] <Crippy-Boy> I havent had one problem with mine running anything.
[06:52] <flake> prepares all these software programs for installation then suddenly goes black
[06:52] <R0cK3T> flake:
[06:52] <flake> with a cursor
[06:52] <viator> cafuego yeah everything ecvept broacom
[06:52] <the_hammer> where do i find my sources list is it in user or etc i forget the location?
[06:52] <cafuego> viator: Ha. I have a broadcom card which works just fine.
[06:52] <R0cK3T> so that happens when you try to do updates?
[06:52] <viator> works out of the box
[06:53] <viator> so dont i
[06:53] <SiliconViper> I apoliogise in advance for any controversy this generates, but which is more suited to safely storing my data, and searching it? ReiserFS, XFS, or JFS?
[06:53] <cafuego> viator: However, inserting an pcmcia card in this HP makes it hardlock.
[06:53] <viator> you helped me
[06:53] <viator> lol
[06:53] <flake> R0cK3T:  i'm still trying to install it
[06:53] <viator> a while ago
[06:53] <R0cK3T> so you never got to installing the boot loader?
[06:53] <flake> i did the partitioning
[06:53] <Crippy-Boy> I was quite amazed installing linux on here, Everything was detected perfectly, wireless was working within mins, Im gunna stick with thinkpads :-)
[06:53] <flake> it didn't get me a boot loader option?
[06:54] <viator> i cant afford thinkpads :(
[06:54] <jsedgwick> OMFG
[06:54] <jsedgwick> GUYS
[06:54] <jsedgwick> STEVE IRWIN IS DEAD
[06:54] <viator> this compaq  is my wifes it was like $500 bew
[06:54] <R0cK3T> sting ray in the chest ;)
[06:54] <simtower> what ever you do don't install windows after ubuntu, youll regret it =(
[06:54] <viator> new*
[06:54] <_lemsx1_> jsedgwick: bad place to post that
[06:54] <protocol1> think pads are good I hear
[06:54] <knapper> I get the following error when I try to run amarok
[06:54] <knapper> knapp@knapp-desktop:~$ amarokapp amarokapp: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv001214gl
[06:54] <Crippy-Boy> viator: me neither, This is a semi old one (P3-M 1.2, 1g ram) but its still perfect
[06:54] <knapper> Any ideas?
[06:55] <flake> oh there's a bootloader option (rescue disk)
[06:55] <R0cK3T> flake: just so i get a better idea of where you are..  where does the installation cut out on you?
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> Steve irwin died
[06:55] <[F] > do any of you guys use the pan news reader?
[06:55] <flake> last i saw it, it was preparing software to install
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> yanno, the croc hunter?
[06:55] <flake> the progress bar going across
[06:55] <Crippy-Boy> How he die?
[06:55] <flake> i turned my back for a couple of minutes and it was black
[06:55] <[F] > Crippy-Boy: stingray
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> yeah, stingray barb through the chest
[06:55] <Shadowpillar> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20349890-5005961,00.html
[06:55] <protocol1> once I get a usb cd-rom  ...  Im going to convert my laptop to a full linux machine
[06:56] <R0cK3T> if your mount points are wrong it won't install i think
[06:56] <Crippy-Boy> Well, mess with deadly shit all your life, you're gunna come unstuck some time.
[06:56] <kevinG> dude, that news is so 5 minutes ago
[06:56] <R0cK3T> did you make sure you had a mount point for /   and /home
[06:56] <flake> i let ubuntu do that,there was free space, /ext3, and something else
[06:56] <R0cK3T> na
[06:56] <R0cK3T> you have to be specific
[06:57] <R0cK3T> i had the same prob i think
[06:57] <Ogus> chmod changes permission right?
[06:57] <R0cK3T> it needs 1 swap  1 /root partition and 1 /home
[06:57] <knapper> Anyone?
[06:57] <flake> there was a swap
[06:57] <R0cK3T> there should be two other partitions
[06:58] <R0cK3T> one for root and one for home
[06:58] <R0cK3T> you have to manually edit the partitions
[06:58] <flake> on which partition will the space be for my stuff or applications
[06:58] <flake> the free space?
[06:59] <Ogus> has anyone fixed problems on thier hard drive by rebooting with the liveCD? how did you access your hard drive? seems to think it diesnt exist even though its in /dev ?
[06:59] <R0cK3T> that should be /home
[06:59] <flake> ok, will reboot and try again
[06:59] <R0cK3T> wait
[06:59] <R0cK3T> make sure you put one partitiion as root
[06:59] <R0cK3T> and one as home
[07:00] <R0cK3T> instead of /dev/hda9 or we
[07:00] <R0cK3T> and format them
[07:00] <flake> oh gawd, i hit the enter key and it i saw disk activity, grub came up and now ubuntu splash is up
[07:01] <flake> the cd popped out
[07:01] <flake> it lives
[07:02] <Ogus> has anyone fixed problems on thier hard drive by rebooting with the liveCD? how did you access your hard drive? anyone want to try it now for me ?: )
[07:02] <flake> thanks for your help R0cK3T
[07:02] <R0cK3T> np
[07:03] <R0cK3T> if i helped at all ;)
[07:03] <flake> i do have more questions if you feel so inclined to hold my hand a little more - in a friendly manner  ;)
[07:03] <R0cK3T> sure man
[07:03] <R0cK3T> just learnin myself
[07:03] <thompa> Ogus: just mount them or look in file
[07:04] <zeronenorez> can any buddy help me with this:http://ubuntuking.blogspot.com/2006/09/installing-gtk-engines-2.html#links  i only solved one support error and there are so many no's, whitch support need install?
[07:04] <Ogus> I tried that it says it doenst exist
[07:04] <cliffd> the crocodile hunter died
[07:04] <thompa> where are you looking?
[07:04] <Ogus> ill try again
[07:04] <_lemsx1_> SiliconViper: XFS all the way
[07:05] <DigitalNinja> anyone using banshee
[07:05] <flake> i was afraid of this - i ended up with a 10 Gb partition for ubuntu and 60 Gb for windoze, how do i mount the windoze volume and can i change the sizes around without wiping out windoze
[07:05] <Ogus> I'm probably not super user or sumthin
[07:05] <StoneNote> DigitalNinja, I was married to one once
[07:05] <R0cK3T> yes you can
[07:05] <thompa> just look using the menu places: /dev or /mnt maybe
[07:05] <Crippy-Boy> flake: The easiest way would be using the gparted live cd.
[07:05] <R0cK3T> i have partition majic 8
[07:05] <R0cK3T> i could send
[07:05] <DigitalNinja> StoneNote: not that kind of banshee
[07:06] <nailbags|work> hi, i have a problem with evolution. if i select a message and go Message->Apply Filters the filters work, but it won't filter incoming messages automatically. any ideas?
[07:06] <viator> make sure you defrag the windows partion before resizing it
[07:06] <SiliconViper> _lemsx1_, that's what I'm going with so far, based on this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388
[07:06] <R0cK3T> works good for resizeing partitions
[07:06] <R0cK3T> and makeing partitions
[07:06] <viator> use qtparted
[07:06] <viator> or gparted
[07:06] <Crippy-Boy> The gparted live cd works great and is easy :-)
[07:06] <Crippy-Boy> or just install gparted
[07:06] <f_fenixz> hi all.. im new in linux
[07:06] <flake> ok thanks, i'll look for gparted
[07:06] <f_fenixz> i have a problem here..
[07:07] <zeronenorez> cliffd, can u see this:http://ubuntuking.blogspot.com/2006/09/installing-gtk-engines-2.html#links
[07:07] <viator> flake defrake windows first
[07:07] <viator> itll get borked
[07:07] <viator> if you dont..... happened to me
[07:07] <f_fenixz> i cant boot normally with the live cd
[07:07] <flake> ok
[07:07] <f_fenixz> i can only boot with safe graphics mode
[07:07] <Ogus> mount: can't find /dev/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab ---  why is it looking in mtab and ftab?
[07:07] <f_fenixz> so what is the problem here??
[07:07] <nailbags|work> anyone use evolution? my filters work if i select a message and go Message->Apply Filters, but they won't filter messages in my inbox automatically
[07:07] <SiliconViper> _lemsx1_, http://linuxgazette.net/122/TWDT.html#piszcz also seems to support XFS as the best choice for what I'm doing, but I always like hearing what people have to say.
[07:07] <_lemsx1_> SiliconViper: yep. i've read a lot about this as well. but the test of time has shown me that XFS is the best of all. my data is safe in XFS
[07:07] <f_fenixz> can anyone tell me>>
[07:08] <Ogus> root@ubuntu:/dev# mount sda ---- this is what I entered
[07:08] <R0cK3T> anyone here install quake 3 on ubuntu with amd 64 and ati card?
[07:08] <_lemsx1_> SiliconViper: i use 4gb files at times... XFS is the best
[07:08] <SiliconViper> _lemsx1_, I use a hefty mixture of files between 2MB and 500MB+
[07:08] <_lemsx1_> for all of you worrying about Steve Irwin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin#Death
[07:08] <R0cK3T> if i only woulda went intel and nvidia my life woulda been so much easier :/
[07:09] <eXistenZ> Bist du Deutsch?
[07:09] <Crippy-Boy> Whats ubuntu like on the new intel macs?
[07:09] <viator> the live cd doesnt use any proprietary drivers or anything and may not have the newest for your chipset
[07:10] <viator> you can install in safe mode and install your diver afterwards
[07:10] <flake> omg, i liked the irwin guy, that sucks
[07:10] <R0cK3T> shitty way to go no doubt
[07:10] <R0cK3T> but play with fire and...
[07:10] <SpaceFrog> hey, i have a wine-related question.. I'm trying to install an important program (used in conjunction with a uni course)... It appears to be written in VB6, and manipulates a MSAccess database. It won't open the database, so i'm assuming it doesn't have the MS data access .dlls or something... Do i need to install MS access in Wine or is there another way i can do this?
[07:10] <jvai> hey all, my bad
[07:11] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: just like it is on normal intel things
[07:11] <f_fenixz> i tried installing in safe graphics mode but to no avail
[07:11] <f_fenixz> it cannot boot from my hd
[07:11] <glick> ekiga is pretty sweet
[07:11] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: oh, i assumed it might be a pain what with the EFI instead of bios,
[07:11] <thompa> im checking mine
[07:11] <thompa> is it ntfs?
[07:11] <Crippy-Boy> Then again there are Bios compatibility EFI modules. but i dont own one so i wouldnt know :-)
[07:12] <Flannel> Crippy-Boy: If I remember corerctly, you might have to use yaboot, but... once its booted, its exactly the same ;)
[07:12] <R0cK3T> is there any way i can just copy my q3 dir from windows to ubuntu?
[07:12] <redi> i have just downloaded firefox (the update) and i unzipped it to the desktop but don't know how to install it... can somebody give me a tip?
[07:12] <R0cK3T> anyone
[07:12] <Crippy-Boy> Flannel: Yeah, i remember that well, i have a PPC mac
[07:12] <SpaceFrog> nobody knows?
[07:13] <zeronenorez> http://ubuntuking.blogspot.com/2006/09/installing-gtk-engines-2.html#links
[07:13] <Crippy-Boy> SpaceFrog: sorry, i have no idea.
[07:13] <thompa> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64;
[07:13] <zeronenorez> help me
[07:13] <redi> ROcK3t use explorefs
[07:13] <R0cK3T> did it work for you?
[07:13] <flake> when i go to make my windows directory to mount it, should i make it udner my user name or as part of the root file system
[07:13] <redi> yes
[07:13] <thompa> unstable
[07:13] <redi> use it from windows and it works
[07:14] <R0cK3T> hmm
[07:14] <redi> can someone help me install firefox?
[07:14] <flake> sudo mkdir windows
[07:14] <flake> \windows
[07:14] <flake> i'll fart around with it
[07:14] <StoneNote> SpaceFrog, I can't think of a way to do that.  If I were in your situation I'd be stuck loading Windows onto a Virtual Appliance in VMWare and then load Office and my windoze app.  It's that or Cedega and I dont own a copy of that.
[07:15] <_lemsx1_> SpaceFrog: install cross-office and then MS Office
[07:15] <thompa> Ogus: sry did you check /dev/disk
[07:15] <SpaceFrog> i've never heard of cross-office, but i'll look into it
[07:16] <thompa> im in edgy though
[07:17] <StoneNote> SpaceFrog, he's talking about this and it's not free http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/
[07:17] <R0cK3T> redi: what is explorefs?
[07:17] <viator> i run windows in kqemu
[07:17] <R0cK3T> i can already copy files from windows to ubuntu
[07:17] <redi> its a utility available for windows that allows you to see files in your linux ext3 partition
[07:17] <R0cK3T> but if i copied q3 dir to ubuntu would i be able to play the game from ubuntu?
[07:17] <redi> you can transfer files between the 2 platforms
[07:17] <Crippy-Boy> no
[07:18] <StoneNote> viator, yeah. you can run it inder Xen too.
[07:18] <R0cK3T> simply copying the files isn't my prob
[07:18] <redi> ok
[07:18] <SpaceFrog> oh, i see.
[07:18] <D00B3Y> what do you guys think is the best linux irc client? I dont like xchat that much...
[07:18] <redi> what are you trying to achieve? im sorry i misunderstood
[07:18] <R0cK3T> im tryin to play q3 on ubuntu
[07:18] <Crippy-Boy> R0cK3T: You're not asking if you can run windows binaries under linux natively are you?
[07:18] <R0cK3T> or install it i mean
[07:19] <R0cK3T> i don't know what im asking
[07:19] <R0cK3T> im a total nub
[07:19] <R0cK3T> lol
[07:19] <StoneNote> D00B3Y, if you want to run mirc it works under wine
[07:19] <StoneNote> I like xchat
[07:19] <D00B3Y> oh... k
[07:19] <R0cK3T> i been goin at it all day
[07:19] <R0cK3T> and accomplished nothing
[07:19] <D00B3Y> It gets confusing with queries and channels, also multiple networks
[07:19] <R0cK3T> :(
[07:20] <SpaceFrog> How can i run mp3s in Ubuntu?
[07:20] <thompa> Ogus: in system or prefernces there is the disk utility
[07:20] <StoneNote> D00B3Y, people like what they are used to. it's pretty common
[07:20] <thompa> just dont mount it in /home anywhere
[07:20] <Crippy-Boy> Well if you mean can you just copy a windows version of q3 over to ubuntu and play it then no, get the linux version of quake.
[07:20] <D00B3Y> StoneNote: Is there any wine tut's I can read about setting up Wine for mIRC? never had to use wine before..
[07:20] <_lemsx1_> SpaceFrog: do !mp3
[07:20] <R0cK3T> is there a linux version of quake?
[07:20] <bushblowz> is there a command to recognize a USB optical mouse from terminal in knoppix
[07:21] <nailbags|work> anyone use evolution? my filters work if i select a message and go Message->Apply Filters, but they won't filter messages in my inbox automatically
[07:21] <R0cK3T> i didn't see anything like taht
[07:21] <R0cK3T> i have the install cd
[07:21] <Crippy-Boy> There sure is
[07:21] <Taxman> R0cK3T: google linux quake
[07:21] <R0cK3T> iight
[07:21] <StoneNote> D00B3Y, just install wine, download mirc, right click mirc.exe and open with wine. the rest will look familiar.  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[07:21] <redi> i just downloaded firefox 1.5 update and unzipped it to my desktop
[07:21] <redi> how do i now install it
[07:22] <D00B3Y> StoneNote: would apt-get install wine do fine?
[07:22] <cafuego> Um
[07:22] <redi> i have 1.0.5 with this ubuntu distro
[07:22] <Crippy-Boy> Man, im so glad i dont game on a pc
[07:22] <cafuego> redi: Do you have a good reason for not using the prepackaged firefox?
[07:22] <StoneNote> D00B3Y, you'll need to set up your apt repositories look at the link http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[07:22] <thompa> what is this x-special/device-block
[07:22] <cafuego> redi: Which ubuntu version are you on?
[07:22] <redi> 1.0.5 is what i have with this version of linux... i can't use a bunch of extensions with this version
[07:22] <ardchoille> redi: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS has Firefox 1.5.0.5
[07:22] <redi> i don't think it have 6.06
[07:23] <D00B3Y> also one more question: would it be stupid running kdm from ubuntu when you have kubuntu?
[07:23] <R0cK3T> quake 3 arena source 1.32c???
[07:23] <Madpilot> redi, why are you still running an old version of Ubuntu?
[07:23] <cafuego> You may not want 6.06 depending on your hardware.
[07:23] <R0cK3T> taht is just a patch no?
[07:23] <redi> this is the dec 2005 release
[07:23] <infidel> well that seemed painless
[07:23] <R0cK3T> i need to install the game before i run a patch
[07:23] <cafuego> Madpilot: Coz Say warty runs fine in 192Mb of ram. Dapper does not.
[07:23] <Madpilot> redi, October 2005, actually. There was a new release in June 2006
[07:23] <ardchoille> redi: open a term and type lsb_release -a
[07:23] <Taxman> still haven't found a solution to my cs: unable to map card memory error. Anyone able to help?
[07:24] <Madpilot> cafuego, really? Gnome's been getting lighter & faster, though
[07:24] <redi> i have the 5.10 release
[07:24] <cafuego> Madpilot: Ever tried dapper on a box with 256Mb ram (and not a 2GHz cpu?)
[07:24] <cafuego> Madpilot: Even on my laptop (1.6Ghz, 512Mb) it's not snappy.
[07:25] <redi> can i go directly to the june 2006 release of ubuntu without having to reformat?
[07:25] <Madpilot> redi, yes
[07:25] <Crippy-Boy> redi yes
[07:25] <redi> how
[07:25] <ardchoille> cafuego: I use Dapper on a PII, 256Mb ram and it works fine
[07:25] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell redi about upgrade
[07:25] <cafuego> redi: If that's what you want to do, sure.
[07:25] <flake> beautiful, i got it mounted - it went to root which is how it should be
[07:25] <cafuego> ardchoille: And you use gnome? And think it runs ok?
[07:25] <ardchoille> cafuego: Yes
[07:25] <cafuego> Then our definitions of "runs ok" differ.
[07:26] <vik> I've changed my root filesystem from ext3 to ext2, changed /etc/fstab, and removed the journal with tune2fs, but ubuntu still tries to mount it as ext3. any ideas?
[07:26] <ardchoille> cafuego: Well, ff is a bit slow compared to my P4, 1Gb ram box
[07:27] <Crippy-Boy> I have dapper on family desktop (p3 900, 512 ram) if that counts?
[07:27] <Urch> how much space does dapper need? I have a laptop (thought with a bad battery) with a 4gb drive
[07:27] <Crippy-Boy> Runs great.
[07:27] <ardchoille> cafuego: boot up time? I never reboot unless I upgrade the kernel, I can see how the boot up time would be slow
[07:27] <cafuego> ardchoille: That wouldn't apply to most laptops.
[07:27] <ardchoille> cafuego: oh, hehe, true
[07:28] <Jbirk> How do I patch my kernel?
[07:28] <cafuego> Urch: 2GB minimum for a normal install.
[07:28] <cafuego> Jbirk: patch it with what?
[07:28] <vik> cafuego: depends if hibernate works
[07:28] <cafuego> vik: Hahaha. No.
[07:28] <Urch> I could squeeze it in then. Too bad a new batter costs so much
[07:28] <cafuego> vik: Going into hibernate on this thing takes as long as just rebooting.
[07:29] <windowsuser> IF CENA WINS WE RIOT
[07:29] <Crippy-Boy> :-/
[07:29] <cafuego> maple1: Your *what* is broken?
[07:30] <maple1> I use windoze
[07:30] <cafuego> Oh, everything.
[07:30] <Crippy-Boy> so...?
[07:30] <flake> i'm rockin and rollin now
[07:30] <Awesome-o2000> is Sat nights main event on tonight?
[07:31] <_lemsx1_> Awesome-o2000: very offtopic
[07:31] <Madpilot> People, #ubuntu-offtopic is thataway ----->
[07:31] <Hoovey> Yep.
[07:32] <Awesome-o2000> Im trying to decide between a p4 2.6 with HT and an overclocked Celeron (the 256L2 version) 3.4 - im wondering which would perform better for gaming and general desktop stuff
[07:32] <Awesome-o2000> in ubuntu of course
[07:32] <Hoovey> Probably the Pentium 4.
[07:32] <Crippy-Boy> Personally id go for the p4
[07:32] <flake> yes P4 with HT
[07:32] <Hoovey> Celerons are old, and out of date.
[07:32] <flake> celeron is like celery
[07:32] <Hoovey> Yep.
[07:32] <flake> it sucks
[07:32] <Awesome-o2000> well its a newer celeron
[07:32] <Awesome-o2000> but still
[07:32] <Hoovey> Yeah, the P4.
[07:32] <Awesome-o2000> the higher L2 and HT makes a lot of difference eh?
[07:32] <flake> or amd64 ?
[07:32] <jvai> aight uall past my bed tyne :)
[07:33] <flake> isnt amd cheaper and faster
[07:33] <Crippy-Boy> It really depends though, The ht is useless if the game doesnt make use of multi threading.
[07:33] <Crippy-Boy> flake: Theres not really much between them anymore
[07:33] <cafuego> Crippy-Boy: It cna still offload (some) system tasks
[07:33] <flake> bigger fsb = bigger fps?
[07:33] <Awesome-o2000> yeah but the HT is also used by the system to multitask, isnt it?
[07:33] <Hoovey> I think so.
[07:34] <cafuego> Crippy-Boy: The problem with HT is that the "second core" is more or less lobotomised.
[07:34] <Crippy-Boy> cafuego: Yeah, but since he was asking about gaming.
[07:34] <Hoovey> I believe only some applications use HT.
[07:34] <Awesome-o2000> alright - p4 for ubuntu it is. gracias
[07:34] <cafuego> Crippy-Boy: Can't run games without an OS.
[07:34] <Hoovey> I'd like an Intel Core 2 Duo..
[07:34] <Crippy-Boy> cafuego: When did i say you could :-/
[07:34] <Hoovey> In a MacBook 17"
[07:34] <Hoovey> :)
[07:35] <R0cK3T> i can copy files from windows to ubuntu in the gui
[07:35] <Crippy-Boy> Nice laptops
[07:35] <R0cK3T> but i can't get to em through cmd prompt?
[07:35] <R0cK3T> wtf
[07:35] <Hoovey> Weird,
[07:35] <Crippy-Boy> I dont see the point in a 17" laptop though, I dont fancy lugging that around.
[07:35] <Hoovey> Crippy-Boy: Yep, I'm getting a 13" Macbook soon.
[07:35] <flake> what is a ESSID, is that the same as a SSID?  and I didn't specify a WEP key, do i need one?
[07:35] <cafuego> flake: yes, no.
[07:35] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: Why can't you get to them via cli?
[07:35] <feross> hey guys... I've moved an NTFS patition data to an EXT2 partition and made it my /home. Problem is that the data from the NTFS partition has wrong permissions. I'm trying to set all of the directories to drwxr-xr-x and the rest of the files to rw-r--r-- but with chmod -R I mess up the directories or the files. I figured out that 'find . -type d|xargs chmod 755' will work for directories but it doesn't catch directories with spaces in them. How
[07:36] <Crippy-Boy> I only have a PPC mac, Wouldn't mind an intel mac too much, but theres not much point me paying the premium as i dont use os x much
[07:36] <Lathiat> feross: put the X in capitals
[07:36] <R0cK3T> cli?
[07:36] <Lathiat> feross: makes it apply to directories only
[07:36] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: cli = Command Line Interface
[07:36] <Lathiat> feross: e.g. chmod u+rwX,g+rX,o+rX
[07:36] <cafuego> feross: Check out u+rwX,g+rX,o-rwx
[07:36] <Crippy-Boy> If i could afford it id have a brand new thinkpad with a core duo 2ghz and 3gb ram *drool*
[07:36] <glick> damn ubuntu's brownness
[07:36] <R0cK3T> i found it
[07:36] <Hoovey> Is there a way to get Ubuntu into 1280x1024 in VMWARE?
[07:36] <Hoovey> Like, force it into 1280x1024?
[07:37] <_lemsx1_> feross: find . -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \;
[07:37] <R0cK3T> i though it was supposed to be in /mnt
[07:37] <Lathiat> feross: also the 'better' way to use find would be 'find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;'
[07:37] <R0cK3T> but its in /media/hda1
[07:37] <Lathiat> feross: but the +X chmods are what you really want
[07:37] <eyequeue> glick, i read that as brownies :)  i'm hungry
[07:37] <feross> ok seems it's a FAQ haha thanks all
[07:39] <dthcb> hey guys
[07:39] <Hoovey> so, is there a way to force ubuntu into 1280x1024 in vmware?
[07:39] <glick> hey how can i install new splash screen?
[07:39] <cafuego> Hoovey: configure the X server, like in non-vmware.
[07:39] <Hoovey> I tried
[07:39] <Hoovey> It broke.
[07:39] <dthcb> im on xchat and i was sent a few photos from a friend, only problem is i cant find them
[07:40] <cafuego> Hoovey: configure the X server _PROPERLY_, like in non-vmware.
[07:40] <dthcb> apparently they went to the 'downloads' folder
[07:40] <Hoovey> i changed
[07:40] <dthcb> how do i find that ?
[07:40] <Hoovey> 1024 768 to
[07:40] <Hoovey> 1280 1024
[07:40] <dthcb> sorry im only new to linux
[07:40] <Hoovey> and it borked.
[07:40] <bayzider> can some one help me to find out where my ipod i mounted
[07:40] <cafuego> Hoovey: It would pobably also help to install the vmare utils, so you get the specific vmware X driver.
[07:40] <Crippy-Boy> dthcb: i might be wrong here but i think the default is ~/.xchat/downloads
[07:40] <brendonjt> hi all can a ubuntu CC member please  pm me who is going to be at the  meeting tomorrow??
[07:40] <Hoovey> hmm, ok
[07:40] <ardchoille> glick: Put the new splash screen in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash and then open gconf-editor, go to apps/gnome-session/options and see the splash_image key
[07:40] <cafuego> Hoovey: You don't change the numbers. You run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:41] <Hoovey> ahh, ok
[07:41] <brendonjt> hi all can a ubuntu CC member please  pm me who is going to be at the  meeting tomorrow??
[07:42] <ardchoille> !splash
[07:42] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[07:42] <dthcb> Crippy-Boy:  no luck, any other suggestions?
[07:43] <Ogus> test
[07:44] <Crippy-Boy> Sorry i have no idea then
[07:45] <Ogus> hey remember me? I fixed my Xorg file - thanks for the suggestions - I didnt know there was a backup so I pasted the Xorg backup into the nano editor - and saved it over the messed up file - thx again
[07:47] <freesun> hello... anyone here to tell me how to enable kernel modules loading?
[07:47] <cafuego> it's enabled already.
[07:48] <neddiW_> hi everyone
[07:48] <neddiW_> i hace a problem, I cannot open synaptics
[07:48] <Hoovey> :/
[07:48] <Hoovey> What happens when you try to open it?
[07:48] <neddiW_> does anyone know how to fix it? :(
[07:49] <freesun> cafuego: and what about message from log : Sep  4 00:03:11 ubuntu kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
[07:49] <neddiW_> Hoovey, is asks for the password but nothing after
[07:49] <HellDragon> :(
[07:49] <Flannel> neddiW_: you running XGL?
[07:49] <neddiW_> nope, just Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[07:49] <neddiW_> 6.06
[07:50] <Flannel> neddiW_: no error message? or anything?  Do you have add/remove, apt-get, adept,  update-manager, or other package sorts of things running?
[07:50] <cafuego> freesun: What kernel is that?
[07:51] <freesun> cafuego: standard 6_06 updated via i-net
[07:51] <canine_kouji> hmm
[07:51] <canine_kouji> is xfce with xubuntu light enough to start the installer?
[07:51] <freesun> cafuego: automatic ubuntu update
[07:51] <canine_kouji> this laptop only has 256 ram. the package on the cd case are liars, you can't install on a 256. it just swaps like crazy
[07:51] <cafuego> freesun: What does 'uname -r' say about it?
[07:52] <neddiW_> Flannel, nothing else runnig at the same time but, update manager says :An error occured, please run package manager...."
[07:52] <canine_kouji> been waiting 4 hours for it to get to the next menu after clicking next to the english selection
[07:52] <freesun> cafuego: 2.6.15-26-386
[07:52] <cafuego> freesun: Ah hold on, I think these kernels handle module loading via udev and not kmod.
[07:53] <cafuego> freesun: BUT they are modular kernels.
[07:53] <freesun> cafuego: so that's why modprobe doesn't seem to work for me and editing /etc/modules either?
[07:53] <bayzider> can some one help me im instaling a os that needs its own drive, and i need to know how to whipe my hard drvie
[07:54] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: Hrm sounds more like you've hit a bug or something
[07:54] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: have you tried hitting next again?
[07:54] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: move the mouse off and back onto the next button
[07:54] <holymoo> hellow
[07:54] <holymoo> okay who the hell is holycow
[07:54] <holymoo> stole my nick
[07:54] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: there is nothing to display in the winodw
[07:55] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: try close and restart the installer
[07:55] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: I've tried this on several laptops, its running out of ram
[07:55] <bayzider> can some one help me im instaling a os that needs its own drive, and i need to know how to whipe my hard drvie
[07:55] <cafuego> freesun: No... even if the kernel module loader isn't enabled, the kernel cna still load modules (eg: mine does).  Soemthing else is wrong with yours; it reckons it can't find its symbols... does /boot/System.map-2.6.15-26-386 exist?
[07:55] <Madpilot> holymoo, if you didn't have it registered, it wasn't really yours. If it is registered, ghost holycow and take it back
[07:55] <Lathiat> holymoo: is your nick registered?
[07:55] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: I've done this several times with several laptops with only 256 ram, it breaks
[07:55] <holymoo> i had it registered
[07:55] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: hrm, interesting
[07:55] <Madpilot> holymoo, then use ghost
[07:55] <canine_kouji> s/breaks/sits there trying to load
[07:55] <freesun> cafuego: only this file:///boot/System.map-2.6.15-23-386
[07:55] <canine_kouji> the livecds for ubuntu and kubuntu both work just fine
[07:55] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: Check launchpad for any open bugs
[07:55] <canine_kouji> its just when installing
[07:56] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: happened on 5.0whatever as well
[07:56] <Hoovey> offtopic, sorry, but the crocodile hunter just died :(
[07:56] <freesun> cafuego: I guess that is no
[07:56] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: is this the same laptop?
[07:56] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: different laptops
[07:56] <holycow> test
[07:56] <Lathiat> im wandering if its some hardware specific bug
[07:56] <holycow> damned straight
[07:56] <holycow> :) danke
[07:56] <canine_kouji> tried on about 5 different laptops
[07:56] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: you could giv ethe alternate cd a try
[07:56] <Madpilot> Hoovey, we know...
[07:56] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: but that seems very odd
[07:56] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: whats odd, its running out of memory
[07:56] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: ah hrm
[07:56] <glick> thank god! all traces of the poop theme gone!
[07:56] <Lathiat> it is
[07:56] <bayzider> can some one help me im instaling a os that needs its own drive, and i need to know how to whipe my hard drvie
[07:56] <Lathiat> interesting
[07:57] <_azrael> bayzider: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdax
[07:57] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: I even tried killing gnome apps. WHen I add another stick of memory, everything works fine
[07:57] <Lathiat> canine_kouji: alternate cd is likely your best bet but yeh it should work in 256
[07:57] <canine_kouji> the installer is a memory hungry monster
[07:57] <_azrael> bayzider: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdx (a correction)
[07:57] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: oh, the alternate cds works fine
[07:57] <freesun> ok, g2g
[07:57] <cafuego> freesun: Ok, force the new kernel to reinstall.
[07:57] <freesun> see you ppl
[07:57] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: thanks for reminding me. I was going to leave work without burning one :)
[07:57] <freesun> cafuego: how?
[07:57] <bayzider> ok how do i view my partiontions so i know wut im deleting
[07:58] <cafuego> freesun: (and check that /boot is not full)
[07:58] <cafuego> freesun: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-26-386'
[08:00] <_azrael> bayzider: cfdisk /dev/hdx
[08:00] <_lemsx1_> bayzider: qtparted/gparted ?
[08:00] <freesun> cafuego: and why it could be that I can load module via modprobe (for my via-ac97 soundcard) and soundcard doesn't apper in system->preferences->sound and I cannot therefore choose it and use it? loading module makes no errors
[08:00] <glick> hey whats tomboy for?
[08:01] <holycow> glick, just making notes
[08:01] <holycow> glick, its like a sticky note without the annoying 'sticky' part that doesn't make sense on a computer desktop
[08:01] <glick> heh
[08:01] <gene> hello
[08:01] <cafuego> but with the wiki bit, which is handy
[08:02] <cafuego> and beagle indexes 'em by default.
[08:02] <glick> beagle
[08:02] <glick> i keep hearing good things about beagle
[08:02] <glick> maybe i should try it
[08:02] <cafuego> when it works, it's VERY nice.
[08:02] <holycow> glick, beagle is a superb search thingy
[08:02] <holycow> its works VERY VERY well
[08:02] <flake> now i'm having trouble enabling my eth1 wireless connection
[08:02] <cafuego> glick: use my packaged version though, not the one in dapper.
[08:02] <flake> went to network/admin
[08:03] <flake> set ESSID = SSID of router
[08:03] <flake> DHCP
[08:03] <glick> whats wrong with the one id dapper?
[08:03] <gene> anyone able to help with an intel graphics card issue?
[08:03] <flake> and activate
[08:03] <flake> pinging = Network is unreachable
[08:03] <freesun> cafuego: down for reboot to new apply new kernel
[08:03] <holycow> gene just ask q, if anyone knows they will answer
[08:03] <flake> when i open back up the admin/network panel again, it says its deactivated
[08:04] <bayzider> ok let me explain t
[08:04] <bayzider> hisagain
[08:04] <glick> cafuego, whats wrong with the one in dapper?
[08:04] <bayzider> ok let me explain this again, im tryng to i
[08:04] <cafuego> glick: old & buggy
[08:04] <bayzider> ahh srry
[08:04] <cafuego> glick: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/beagle/
[08:04] <glick> how is beagle different from the find command?
[08:05] <cafuego> glick: beagle is like google.
[08:05] <flake> do i need ndiswrapper
[08:05] <gene> ok, i got a intel integrated graphics card. i'm trying to run a windows program through wine with an opengl switch, but it doesn't seem to work. anyone have any ideas?
[08:05] <cafuego> glick: find is slow, beagle uses its index, sinds stuff instantaneously. It also know about meta info in office files, emails etc... so it only finds relevant stuff.
[08:06] <glick> oh
[08:06] <glick> coo
[08:06] <bayzider> ok let me exlpain this again im installing x86(im a tester) i need to install it on a blank hard drvie but i only have one how ever on one of my partitions i have a expirered windows(i need to register it)  so im haveing trouble geting it off ym hard drive so can some one help me
[08:06] <flake> correct me if i'm wrong, but intel integrated graphics card = little to no 3d, only software?
[08:06] <cafuego> flake: You are corrected.
[08:07] <cafuego> flake: Intel have opened up their drivers, 3D should be fine.
[08:07] <holycow> cafuego, didn't intel say they are open sourcing something about their latest chipsets?
[08:07] <holycow> i thought it included 3d acceleration?
[08:07] <flake> gene was asking
[08:07] <cafuego> holycow: indeed
[08:08] <freesun> cafuego: well I have reinstalled kernel
[08:08] <holycow> cafuego, so it does include 3d accelration? well thats sweet
[08:08] <The_Ball> what do i need to install to get the make utility?
[08:08] <holycow> i wasn't sure either
[08:08] <freesun> cafuego: what do you suggest?
[08:08] <cafuego> holycow: it should, yes.
[08:08] <gene> as it is, it runs it using d3d, but the rendering is buggy
[08:08] <holycow> thats going to be great for laptops
[08:08] <cafuego> holycow: indeed
[08:08] <cafuego> means you don't have to either use closed ati or closed nvidia.
[08:09] <holycow> i'm going to haveto research this more, i'm about to buy a fairly expensive lappie
[08:09] <Bonez> hi, is there a net-install ISO for Ubuntu dapper 6.06? I don't want to download the whole 600mb if possible, just want to download what I need from the internet. Can this be done?
[08:09] <holycow> would be nice to have the proper intel chipset
[08:09] <holycow> cafuego, yeah interesting
[08:09] <gene> intel 810?
[08:09] <holycow> cafuego, that also means i may switch us from amd cpus to intel ... this is gonna suck for the open video card project tho
[08:10] <bayzider> ok let me exlpain this again im installing x86(im a tester) i need to install it on a blank hard drvie but i only have one how ever on one of my partitions i have a expirered windows(i need to register it)  so im haveing trouble geting it off ym hard drive so can some one help me
[08:10] <The_Ball> oh, is the package that provides make called make? and not included on the 700mb install?
[08:10] <flake> can i change the grub loading timer easily
[08:10] <flake> 3 seconds fly by too quickly
[08:10] <gautam> hi
[08:11] <Bonez> hi, is there a net-install ISO for Ubuntu dapper 6.06? I don't want to download the whole 600mb if possible, just want to download what I need from the internet. Can this be done?
[08:11] <holycow> bayzider, if you want to install another linux on that partition, just pick it during install
[08:11] <The_Ball> flake, yes, any grub tutorial covers that as one of the first steps
[08:11] <gene> i have a intel 810 integrated, wondering if it supports opengl rendering
[08:11] <Awesome-o2000> that would rock, but no
[08:11] <holycow> bayzider, you don't haveto take it off ... just select the partition during install, format and tell it to install there
[08:11] <holycow> thats it
[08:11] <gautam> Bonez: no sorry
[08:11] <flake> ugh -  more reading
[08:11] <holycow> gene, i have a number of those boards, it does but i don't know how much of ogl is supported
[08:12] <holycow> gene, it DEFINATELY renders ogl fine accelerated for quite a bit of things
[08:12] <bayzider> no this os NEEDS its own drive not partition. i need to go into the live cd and install it from there its no linux its osx i just need to know how to completly whipe my hard drive
[08:12] <holycow> osx needs its own drive?
[08:12] <holycow> wow
[08:12] <gautam> bayzider: fdisk :)
[08:13] <holycow> bayzider, yeah fdisk
[08:13] <bayzider> im not sure how to use that is it just one command and every things gone
[08:13] <gene> holycow, well i try to run this through wine. "wine <prog> -opengl" but it gives me a long error that i can really seem to interpret
[08:13] <holycow> bayzider, also look into dd, you can very easily write out every bit on the platers with dd to get all data zeroed out
[08:14] <holycow> gene, that doesn't necessarily mean anything about your chipset
[08:14] <gautam> boot from ubuntu live CD and fdisk the hdd
[08:14] <holycow> maybe wine doesn't support ogl properly
[08:14] <holycow> or the app you are trying to run is just crap
[08:14] <Arafangion> gene: Why are you specifying -opengl
[08:14] <holycow> :)
[08:14] <bayzider> can some one give me the command
[08:15] <cherubiel> DBO: there?
[08:15] <Arafangion> bayzider: The command's name *is* "fdisk", without the quotations.
[08:15] <gene> holycow, i'm new to ubuntu, and i'm going off a tutorial which is intended for NVIDIA / ATI, and I'm trying to patch it through to my Intel
[08:15] <holycow> gene, patch what?
[08:15] <holycow> why are you doing that?
[08:15] <holycow> i have no idea what you are doing, but i can tell you, it sounds wrong already :)
[08:15] <Awesome-o2000> eugene
[08:15] <gene> not patch, I'm just trying to follow a similar method
[08:16] <macness> hey everybody
[08:16] <bayzider> i typed in fdisk it didnt whipe my hard drive
[08:16] <holycow> gene, for what purpose?
[08:16] <holycow> it makes no sense actually
[08:16] <macness> <-ubuntu noob here wondering if anybody was up for giving some advice on getting my wireless card to work.
[08:17] <holycow> macness, if it doesn't work automatically its almost 99% certain its not supported
[08:17] <holycow> macness, the simple answer is cough up $30 and get one that is supported
[08:17] <Arafangion> macness: What did you run before on the computer?
[08:17] <holycow> search the wiki for supported cards and chipsets
[08:17] <gene> holycow, trying to get a windows program to run through wine. the method i was given seems to work fine for nvidia or ati, but nothing is said for intel...
[08:17] <holycow> !wireless
[08:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:17] <inkboy> aw! that means my d-link card is not support :(
[08:17] <holycow> gene, ah
[08:18] <Arafangion> gene: wine doesn't care for squat with respect to ati/nvidia
[08:18] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:18] <macness> <-well it seems like from the wiki's i've read that other's have gotten theirs to work
[08:18] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:18] <holycow> inkboy, not all of them are, hardware manufacturers don't always play nice with us
[08:18] <holycow> gene, what Arafangion said
[08:18] <freesun> anyone can tell me where can I find which error number in kernel log means what?
[08:18] <ubuntu_> holycow: hi
[08:18] <holycow> gene, ogl is ogl
[08:18] <macness> same PCIID from the wiki's
[08:19] <holycow> ubuntu_, oi
[08:19] <ubuntu_> freesun:  /var/log/messages?
[08:19] <bayzider> i typed in fdisk it didnt whipe my hard drive
[08:19] <Arafangion> bayzider: What did you want it to do?
[08:19] <gene> holycow, any ideas why when i try to run with -opengl it doesn't work?
[08:19] <ubuntu_> bayzider: hi
[08:19] <Lynoure> bayzider: it takes a bit more than that.
[08:19] <ubuntu_> fdisk will erase all drive
[08:19] <ubuntu_> be carefull
[08:19] <Arafangion> gene: Again, why the heck are you specifying "-opengl"?
[08:19] <holycow> bayzider, it will if you use it properly.  what do you mean by 'it didn't wipe yoru drive'.... did you google how to use it properly?
[08:20] <bayzider> no
[08:20] <macness> ndiswrapper recognizes that the driver is installed and hardware is detected
[08:20] <bayzider> i will
[08:20] <bayzider> now
[08:20] <ubuntu_> bayzider:  it is more like fdisk /dev/hda
[08:20] <macness> should i be looking for something esle
[08:20] <ubuntu_> whatever ur drive is
[08:20] <sei> not sure
[08:20] <gene> arafangion, when i run the program through wine without the -opengl switch, it renders it with direct3d, which is buggy at best
[08:21] <ryancr> anyone know why xgl would reset the gtk theme to stock theme and icons?
[08:21] <ubuntu_> bayzider: BACKUP ur data
[08:22] <Arafangion> gene: Interesting, if that is true (and is _still_ true, giving the speed at which wine changes), then you need to do: wine -opengl <app>
[08:22] <freesun> ubuntu_: and how to find out which is -16 ?
[08:22] <flake> thanks for the help gals and guys, will continue this tomorrow
[08:22] <Arafangion> gene: Because if you do: wine <app> -opengl, then wine doesn't get the flag, rather, it assumes that it's intended for <app> to parse.
[08:22] <flake> happy labor day
[08:22] <macness> looking for a little bit of sympathy here, i've been at this wireless problem for 4 days now, I thought i could research this myself but obviously i'm at my wits end here, if anyone could offer advice that would be most appreciated
[08:22] <gene> arafangion, i see, i will give it a shot, thank you
[08:22] <ubuntu_> freesun:  -16? for?
[08:22] <flake> wireless problem?
[08:23] <macness> yes flake
[08:23] <ubuntu_> macness: ndiswrapper detects?
[08:23] <freesun> ubuntu: Sep  3 08:21:28 ubuntu kernel: [4294693.825000]  VIA 82xx Audio: probe of 0000:00:07.5 failed with error -16
[08:23] <macness> it seems everyone's got it to work bu me
[08:23] <flake> oh.. i'm trying ndiswrapper tomorrow
[08:23] <macness> yes ubuntu it detects
[08:23] <ubuntu_> macness:  try  ifup wlan0 up
[08:23] <ubuntu_> macness:  try  ifup wlan0
[08:23] <pradeeper> Hi All, I'm trying to customize Ubuntu LiveCD and I want some information on that. Is there any channel (or mailing list) specific to that?
[08:24] <ubuntu_> freesun:  so u dont get any sound?
[08:24] <freesun> ubuntu_: yes
[08:24] <ubuntu_> freesun:  aumix installed?
[08:24] <freesun> and there is no sound device in SYstem->Preferences->Sound
[08:24] <macness> ubuntu_: i get this wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:25] <freesun> if it is in standard 6_06 installation then answer is yes
[08:25] <ubuntu_> macness: iwconfig?
[08:25] <Homer> Is ACPI Standby mode working yet in Ubuntu?
[08:25] <macness> should this be active in the network window first?
[08:25] <ubuntu_> freesun: apt-get install aumix
[08:25] <gene> arafangion, tried what you said, "wine -opengl <app>" and this is what i get "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\-opengl.exe": Module not found"
[08:26] <ubuntu_> macness:  yep i guess command was network-admin
[08:26] <luckyone> on my laptop, is there anyway to make the screen go "lights out", instead of blank when the screensaver kicks on?
[08:26] <pradeeper> is there a IRC channel for Ubuntu Developers?
[08:26] <Arafangion> gene: Then, I was wrong.
[08:26] <Arafangion> gene: Still, I've been able to run opengl apps without any -opengl flag whatsoever.
[08:26] <luckyone> gene, the syntax is wine <app> -opengl
[08:26] <macness> ubuntu_: iwconfig seems to detect the device
[08:26] <Arafangion> luckyone: Ok, I was definetly wrong then :)
[08:26] <freesun> ubuntu_: I have aumix, now? modprobe?
[08:26] <Madpilot> pradeeper, #ubuntu-devel - but if you've got questions or think you've found a bug, here is the best place
[08:27] <ubuntu_> freesun:  run aumix
[08:27] <luckyone> on my laptop, is there anyway to make the screen go "lights out", instead of blank when the screensaver kicks on?
[08:27] <macness> ubuntu_:but it still doesnt work ;)
[08:27] <pradeeper> Thanks! no Madpilot, I need some help on Ubuntu remastring
[08:27] <freesun> ubuntu_: aumix:  error opening mixer
[08:27] <gene> luckyone, there's a sizeable error message
[08:27] <ubuntu_> macness:  even from network-admin?
[08:27] <gr33npho3nix> hey whats the deal w\ pentium D, does that use the 64bit ubuntu (which says amd) or does it need the regular cd
[08:27] <Arafangion> Hmm, fancy this.
[08:27] <luckyone> gene, don't know about that one sorry
[08:27] <macness> ubuntu_: you mean making it active?
[08:28] <luckyone> gene, check in #winehq
[08:28] <ubuntu_> yes
[08:28] <Arafangion> Just found a CD, which apparently came with a USB drive, in it, in the Linux section, is a PDF file that has two lines, essentially saying "See www.redhat.com".
[08:28] <holycow> Arafangion, lol
[08:28] <holycow> typical
[08:28] <macness> ubuntu_: i can activate it, but it doesnt work
[08:29] <ubuntu_> well no idea then :(
[08:29] <freesun> ubuntu_: aumix:  error opening mixer
[08:29] <macness> ubuntu_:could i have the wrong drivers perhaps, keep in mind, big ubuntu noob here
[08:30] <holycow> macness, :) lol
[08:30] <holycow> i strongly suggest juts buying one that is supported
[08:30] <canine_kouji> Lathiat: well xubuntu works just fine :)
[08:30] <willzzz> .join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:30] <holycow> you plug it in and go
[08:31] <macness> holycow: im on a laptop, god knows im sure i'll have the same headaches with the card reader
[08:32] <Arafangion> macness: Actually, my internal SDcard reader "just worked" in Ubuntu.
[08:32] <holycow> macness, probably not
[08:32] <Arafangion> macness: Want a piece of advise?
[08:32] <macness> yes i would!
[08:32] <Arafangion> macness: Upgrade to the latest kernel you can get at the time from the repos, then use aptitude, and *lock the kernel* so that it doesn't automatically get upgraded.
[08:33] <macness> arafangion, you lost me at about kernel
[08:33] <holycow> Arafangion, your guessing it might have newer drivers i guess?
[08:33] <canine_kouji> heh
[08:34] <canine_kouji> I wish my internal SD reader would work
[08:34] <macness> is aptitude a locking util?
[08:34] <Arafangion> macness: Tell me what "uname -a" says.
[08:34] <canine_kouji> 0000:02:0d.0 System peripheral: Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller (rev 05)
[08:34] <holycow> i would say tha tif that fails to produce results he will have risked borking his wholeinstall :)
[08:34] <holycow> i think its just cheaper and easier to buy a new card
[08:34] <holycow> heh
[08:34] <canine_kouji> ^ the reader above has been out for 2 years, still no driver for it ;)
[08:34] <Arafangion> macness: It's like the ultimate version of synaptic.
[08:34] <Arafangion> holycow: It _will_ have newer drivers.
[08:34] <macness> ok gotcha
[08:34] <holycow> not necessarily for his chipset tho
[08:34] <canine_kouji> eww, people use graphical package managerS? :/
[08:35] <holycow> canine_kouji, to start out with :) everyone graduates to cli eventually
[08:35] <canine_kouji> holycow: i'd die without urxvt
[08:35] <macness> arafangion, uname -a says: Linux edwin-laptop 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:35] <ardchoille> Now, now.. be respectful of people's choice of software.
[08:35] <chris12349> what package is ./configure in?
[08:36] <Arafangion> chris12349: Have a GUESS>
[08:36] <Arafangion> macness: That's the same as mine.
[08:36] <chris12349> Arafangion: autoconf?
[08:37] <macness> arafangion, where to go from here
[08:37] <Homer> so anyone know how to get standby to work (if possible)?
[08:37] <canine_kouji> chris12349: hehehe.. well configure is generated by autohell tools
[08:37] <ardchoille> chris12349: the "./configure" you're thinking of is tellng the system to run the configure script which usually ships with source archives
[08:37] <holycow> Homer, it should work automatically.  if it doesn't chances are its not supported
[08:37] <ardchoille> Hence the "./"
[08:37] <Arafangion> chris12349: Consider the fact that that command starts with "./"
[08:37] <Homer> would there be an option in GNOME?
[08:38] <Homer> there is an option for hibernate
[08:38] <chris12349> I under stand that.  For some reason I can't run configure, I though a --reinstall might fix the problem
[08:38] <Homer> :)
[08:38] <luckyone> what handles laptop actions for ubuntu? is it acpi?
[08:38] <Homer> ACPI
[08:38] <Homer> yes
[08:38] <holycow> Homer, hardware manufactures are a*holes, they don't like to play nice most of the time ... there is a big ongoing issue with that particular item and hw manufacturers not publishing specs
[08:38] <baysider> can some one help me mount my ipod when i cd to it the terminal just gives me ">"
[08:38] <ardchoille> chris12349: Have you installed build-essential ?
[08:38] <R0cK3T> can someone walk me through a quake 3 install on ubuntu (amd 64/ati xpress 200m)?
[08:38] <freesun> I get error Sep  4 08:33:34 ubuntu kernel: [17179594.608000]  VIA 82xx Audio: probe of 0000:00:07.5 failed with error -16 and sound (of course with message like this) doesn't work, any help?
[08:38] <Homer> funny how a standard is not standard
[08:38] <macness> holycow, any advice on cards that should "just work" on the laptop?
[08:39] <canine_kouji> holycow: oh yes, they're all about protecting their IP, then they turn out like a company comparing to sony which looses tons of money because of it ;)
[08:39] <Homer> if you support ACPI you should support all devices that implement ACPI
[08:39] <holycow> macness, yes, there is a hug elist of stuff known to work and known not to ... its on the ubuntu forums somewhere.  start searching there
[08:39] <Homer> is in, you don't need a different method for each device
[08:39] <Homer> that's the whole point of standards
[08:39] <holycow> !wifi
[08:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:39] <holycow> maybe that has some linkage
[08:39] <chris12349> ardchoille: yep... did that first... strange problem.... this is what I get for using apt-get ;)
[08:39] <macness> thanks!
[08:39] <Arafangion> macness: I like to lock the kernel, using aptitude, so that any hard work in customizing your setup, especially with respect to custom compiled modules and ndiswrapper stuff, etc, isn't blown away at the next automatic kernel upgrade.
[08:40] <holycow> canine_kouji, they all  belong to the proprietary cult
[08:40] <baysider> can some one help me when i cd to my ipod  the terminal just gives me ">"
[08:40] <holycow> canine_kouji, they have an inability to understand WHY publishing specs helps them, i agree
[08:40] <chris12349> where is configure supposed to be? /usr/sbin?
[08:40] <ardchoille> chris12349: Well, consider the fact that apt-get works great for lots of folks.. could it be that you're missing something?
[08:40] <macness> arafangion, ubotu, and holycow:thanks for the info, i think i'll crack at it some more until after the holiday
[08:40] <canine_kouji> holycow: yes well, all I can wonder is what will happen is the GPLv3 is forced everywhere, especially IBM. Placing pressure on these corps to release their patents to public use.
[08:41] <holycow> macness, i seriuosly wouldn't waste my time making a wireless card work
[08:41] <ardchoille> chris12349: You're thinking about it wrong, ./configure isn't a package, it's telling the system to run the "configure" shell script that ships with source archives
[08:41] <holycow> they are so cheap it really will be a pleasure to pick one up, plug it in and go
[08:41] <holycow> you won't even haveto install a driver or anything
[08:41] <canine_kouji> macness: if you need a wireless card to work, I recommend ndiswrapper ;)
[08:41] <chris12349> ardchoille: yeah but the command should be somewhere :)  I'm trying to track down the problem
[08:41] <baysider> can some one help me when i cd to my ipod  the terminal just gives me ">"
[08:41] <Arafangion> holycow: If it's built-in, I would bother.
[08:41] <ardchoille> chris12349: It's the same as when you tell the system to ./filename.sh
[08:42] <ardchoille> chris12349: it's not a command
[08:42] <Arafangion> holycow: If it were extenal, then yeah, I'd replace it without a second thought.
[08:42] <chris12349> ardchoille: oh oh ok....
[08:42] <holycow> Arafangion, why? just get a pcmcia card and go
[08:42] <chris12349> ardchoille: ok i fee stupid I didn't run automake first  ....
[08:42] <freesun>  I get error Sep  4 08:33:34 ubuntu kernel: [17179594.608000]  VIA 82xx Audio: probe of 0000:00:07.5 failed with error -16 and sound (of course with message like this) doesn't work, any help?
[08:42] <ardchoille> chris12349: lol
[08:42] <macness> canine_: ndiswrapper isn't working per se, sort of, kinda
[08:42] <holycow> he spent 4 days on it already ... i think everyone here would think 4 days is wroth a lot more than $30 to them?
[08:43] <macness> 4 days for a noob is relatively translated into 3 hours or so
[08:43] <macness> lol
[08:43] <canine_kouji> macness: I've had ndiswrapper not work well, try drivers for different OSes(win98, 2k, xp) then try different versions of the drivers for it. make sure a linux module isn't trying to load by blacklisting the module, as I've had that as a showstopper
[08:43] <macness> i should mention that this is also my first linux install EVER
[08:43] <holycow> macness, lol in that case ....
[08:43] <holycow> hehe
[08:43] <baysider> can some one help me when i cd to my ipod  the terminal just gives me ">"
[08:44] <canine_kouji> baysider: no
[08:44] <baysider> why not?
[08:44] <canine_kouji> baysider: You repeated the question, that is why
[08:45] <baysider> sorry im kind of impatint
[08:45] <R0cK3T> can someone walk me through a quake 3 install on ubuntu (amd 64/ati xpress 200m)?
[08:45] <macness> thanks canine_: i never thought to try other OSes
[08:46] <holycow> macness, the neat thing about linux is that supported hardware just works
[08:46] <canine_kouji> macness: some cards have drivers for win98, 2k, nt, and xp. 2k drivers usually work if the xp drivers dont
[08:46] <holycow> its really very cool
[08:46] <holycow> but hardware companies don't like to publish specs to their hardware at minimum
[08:46] <canine_kouji> holycow: well yeah, linux has more drivers than windows by default. When it messes up though, it really messes up
[08:46] <macness> yeah, ive been meaning to get rid of Windows cold turkey. if i can get this to work. i'll be a changed man
[08:46] <Digital> hello everyone
[08:46] <holycow> canine_kouji, not really
[08:46] <holycow> canine_kouji, it either works or it doesn't
[08:47] <reZo_> Is there anyway of disabling the middle mouth wheel button as paste?
[08:47] <holycow> if it doesn't you can't do anything about it unless you can code and fix drivers
[08:47] <reZo_> In Ubuntu LTS 6.06 that is.
[08:47] <Arafangion> macness: If you can, use wired networks, if you can't, get a wireless adapter that _works_.
[08:47] <canine_kouji> holycow: ahuh, well I've had a module hard lock the machine for a wifi card because it felt it needed to do it ;)
[08:47] <reZo_> *mouth == mouse
[08:47] <holycow> canine_kouji, lol
[08:47] <Digital> can anyone tell me what I need to do to get dvd's playing back?
[08:47] <ardchoille> reZo_: I believe that's a *nix thing, not an Ubuntu thing
[08:47] <reZo_> LAme.
[08:48] <swuboo> Does anyone know if it's possible to get lmsensors working on an nForce5** motherboard?
[08:48] <reZo_> Really does get on my nerves at times, oh well, have to get used to it I guess :/
[08:48] <ardchoille> !restricted > Digital
[08:48] <canine_kouji> reZo_: you can disable it in your xorg.conf
[08:48] <reZo_> Wicked.
[08:48] <ardchoille> Digital: That page has a lot of info on DVD playback
[08:48] <Wicked_> hmm?
[08:48] <Digital> thank you
[08:48] <Wicked_> oh... woops
[08:48] <canine_kouji> reZo_: also make sure mouse3 emulation is off, or right and left together will do it too ;)
[08:49] <ardchoille> Wicked_: I'll bet you get highlighted a lot with that nick
[08:49] <reZo_> :)
[08:49] <reZo_> Cheers
[08:49] <macness> is anybody else using and acer aspire here?
[08:49] <ba> anyone from canada in here?
[08:49] <holycow> macness, its all we buy
[08:49] <canine_kouji> eww, canadians! :D
[08:49] <Wicked_> ardchoille, yes, quite a bit
[08:49] <R0cK3T> yeah
[08:49] <holycow> macness, but we ONLY buy the linux ones
[08:49] <holycow> macness, not all aspires wireless cards work
[08:49] <holycow> ba, westcoast in tha house
[08:49] <canine_kouji> macness: out of curiousity, which card do you have?
[08:49] <Madpilot> ba, lots - even more in #ubuntu-ca
[08:49] <canine_kouji> macness: please say bcm42xx
[08:50] <canine_kouji> macness: oh no! ::/
[08:50] <macness> yes canine
[08:50] <canine_kouji> macness: I know why its not working, you didn't take a look at dmesg
[08:50] <macness> bcm4218 to be exact
[08:50] <bevege> anyone have ubuntu running on an emac?
[08:50] <canine_kouji> macness: you must extract the firmware out of the drivers included for bcm43xx and place them in /lib/firmware
[08:51] <holycow> canine_kouji, your kidding
[08:51] <holycow> why is that manual?
[08:51] <macness> canine_how
[08:51] <canine_kouji> I have 4 acer aspires here, had to use fwcutter to extract the fw files from the .sys files
[08:51] <baysider> !fdisk
[08:51] <holycow> canine_kouji, wow
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <canine_kouji> holycow: its with most cards, same situation with the intel wireless drivers, but ubuntu includes them by default, even though they're closed source
[08:52] <R0cK3T> can someone walk me through a quake 3 install on ubuntu (amd 64/ati xpress 200m)?  I am confused to the point where i don't even know where to start!
[08:52] <canine_kouji> well sorry, I assumed that is what you were doing :) I'm from BSD land ;)
[08:52] <Arafangion> canine_kouji: I have an Acer V6V - Ubuntu works flawlessly, everything works (Modem, firewire, infra untested)
[08:52] <ba> holycow, im from saskatoon myself
[08:52] <R0cK3T> can you even play q3 online with linux?
[08:52] <canine_kouji> Arafangion: right, and some acers don't use broadcom
[08:52] <holycow> ba, cool
[08:53] <canine_kouji> I personally perfer marvell, but they're closed source, and the opensource drivers dont't work very well.
[08:53] <macness> canine_kouji: dmesg?
[08:53] <canine_kouji> macness: dmesg|grep .fw
[08:53] <swuboo> Rocket: I don't see why you wouldn't be able to play online, but unfortunately I'm a UT guy, so I have no idea how to help you.
[08:54] <npster> hi. how do you create a new folder in terminal ?
[08:54] <Timsen> mkdir foldername
[08:54] <swuboo> mkdir NAME
[08:54] <macness> canine_kouji:error's all the way
[08:54] <npster> OK
[08:54] <canine_kouji> macness: pastebin please
[08:55] <macness> canine_kouji:its really long
[08:55] <canine_kouji> macness: select with mouse, go to pastebin, then mouse3 it
[08:55] <R0cK3T> swuboo: ut2k4 is also my game of choice
[08:55] <R0cK3T> but q3 is next best
[08:55] <Homer> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo sleep 5 && echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state
[08:55] <Homer> bash: /sys/power/state: Permission denied
[08:56] <R0cK3T> and i know ut2k4 doesn't work on linux
[08:56] <FirstStrike> .........
[08:56] <swuboo> Heh.  I didn't mean 2k4.  I meant GOTY.
[08:56] <R0cK3T> o i wouldn't even attempt it
[08:56] <Homer> why is permission denied if I'm using sudo?
[08:56] <fredl> 'ello. Anybody know why I get  phpwiki: Depends: php4-sqlite but it is not going to be installed
[08:56] <FirstStrike> ut2k4 runs fine on linux
[08:56] <cherubiel> Homer: give sudo for the echo too
[08:56] <myUserName> can someone tell me how to get azureus to dock on the menuBar ages ago when i used 5.04 of ubuntu i never had a problem with this i guess the new version of gnome screwed it up How do i fix this?
[08:56] <cherubiel> :P
[08:56] <FirstStrike> hell, there's a linux installer
[08:56] <highvoltage> fredl: is the user in the 'admin' group?
[08:56] <fredl> highvoltage, yes, root.
[08:56] <R0cK3T> i dunno if it would run so well tho
[08:56] <swuboo> Rocket:  I'm pretty sure FirstStrike's right.   Might want to look into it.
[08:56] <fredl> highvoltage, sudo apt-get install phpwiki
[08:57] <FirstStrike> um
[08:57] <FirstStrike> it runs FINE
[08:57] <Homer> cherubiel,  sudo sleep 5 && sudo echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state
[08:57] <Homer>  ?
[08:57] <R0cK3T> whats fps?
[08:57] <FirstStrike> the linux installer is on the actual cd/dvd
[08:57] <highvoltage> oic :)
[08:57] <FirstStrike> jesus
[08:57] <cherubiel> Homer: bang on :P
[08:57] <R0cK3T> heh
[08:57] <FirstStrike> you're pretty clueless aren't you?
[08:57] <R0cK3T> really
[08:57] <nuxord> he
[08:57] <nuxord> hey
[08:57] <fredl> highvoltage, any other recommendation for a wiki engine?
[08:57] <R0cK3T> yeah man
[08:57] <swuboo> FirstStrike:  I suspect he's concerned about his hardware not being up to snuff, rather than an inherent flaw in the program.  Would explain why he's installing QIII instead of IV.
[08:57] <nuxord> how can i get .rar files to work in ubuntu?
[08:57] <Homer> sudo sleep 5 && sudo echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state
[08:57] <Homer> bash: /sys/power/state: Permission denied
[08:57] <Homer> :P
[08:57] <macness> canine_kouji: sorry im quite clueless at this second... pastebin?
[08:57] <nuxord> how can i get .rar files to work in ubuntu?
[08:57] <ardchoille> !rar
[08:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:57] <Madpilot> nuxord, of course
[08:57] <FirstStrike> I run it at 50 - 60 fps just fine
[08:58] <R0cK3T> hardware is to new i think actually
[08:58] <FirstStrike> Hell, I run half life 2 at 40 - 50 fps running in wine on linux
[08:58] <txoof_> I have a small hoby web/mail/whatever server that I occasionaly run X from.  What ubuntu distribution would probably be best for me?
[08:58] <FirstStrike> what do you mean.."to new"
[08:58] <FirstStrike> ...
[08:58] <fredl> nuxord - watching usenet pr0n?
[08:58] <R0cK3T> its a newer hp laptop
[08:58] <FirstStrike> i give up
[08:58] <R0cK3T> amd 64 bit
[08:58] <Homer> !sudo
[08:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:58] <R0cK3T> seems like nothing works with it
[08:59] <FirstStrike> if you run a 32 bit distro..it'll work fine
[08:59] <swuboo> Ahhh.
[08:59] <holycow> nuxord, install rar and unrar, then archiver will be able to extract them
[08:59] <swuboo> Yeah, that's your problem.
[08:59] <nuxord> ok thanks
[08:59] <R0cK3T> i can't get xgl, quake 3 or nothing working
[08:59] <nuxord> and yeah its porn :D
[08:59] <nuxord> is it that obvious?
[08:59] <fredl> nuxord - use pan :)
[08:59] <nuxord> pan?
[08:59] <macness> canine_kouji:still there???
[08:59] <ardchoille> !pan
[08:59] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[08:59] <FirstStrike> I have an AMD 64 3700+ processor
[08:59] <fredl> nuxord, from what I know only usenet pr0n has lots of .rar files
[08:59] <FirstStrike> I run the 32 bit distro of ubuntu
[08:59] <holycow> nuxord, lol
[09:00] <FirstStrike> All the games and apps I run work out of the box
[09:00] <FirstStrike> Including xgl and compiz
[09:00] <holycow> nuxord, you know its funny you joke about that
[09:00] <R0cK3T> hmm
[09:00] <swuboo> You're not gonna get fancy games up and running real easily on a 64bit install; if you want QuakeIII you're going to have to use the 32 bit version of Ubuntu.
[09:00] <nuxord> ahaha yeah its 3am and i am alone..porn is a solution
[09:00] <txoof_> What would be a sane way to add X to the server distribution of ubuntu?
[09:00] <R0cK3T> maybe that's my prob
[09:00] <holycow> it has occured to me that the biggest companiesx in the world PROVIDING porn these days are isps
[09:00] <myUserName> can someone tell me how to fix azureus docking on the gnome menu bar
[09:00] <holycow> its the ONLY reason anyone signs up for internet access frankly
[09:00] <holycow> lol
[09:00] <R0cK3T> i am runnin the x86_64 version of ubuntu
[09:00] <nuxord> ahaha so true
[09:00] <swuboo> That or use wine; I actually haven't had a problem running 32 bit wine in the 64 bit kernel.
[09:00] <fredl> txoof_, I think maybe sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <FirstStrike> Download and install the 32 bit version
[09:01] <ardchoille> fredl: I was thinking the same
[09:01] <holycow> isps are not internet service providers, they infact are porn copmpanies now
[09:01] <txoof_> fredl: is there some where on the ubuntu web page that lists what all comes in that package?
[09:01] <fredl> txoof_, that should give you most the required packages I think.
[09:01] <nuxord> but sometimes i feel to guilty for watching porn, not that im religoius or anything..but. its so fake and its so obvious =\
[09:02] <fredl> txoof_, hmmm, dunno.
[09:02] <fredl> nuxord, yeah uhuh, and you also cooperate in the exploitation of women :P
[09:02] <txoof_> fredl: hhmm.  Thanks.  I'm contemplating moving my debian box over to ubuntu.  I dunno if it's worth the effort tho.
[09:02] <fredl> LOL
[09:02] <holycow> nuxord, there are some really good documentaries on the industry, its full of drug addicts and people with personality disfunctions
[09:02] <holycow> its really sad
[09:02] <fredl> txoof_, it was worth the effort for me.
[09:02] <ardchoille> txoof_: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it pulls in all the required packages for the ubuntu desktop (gnome). the meta package itself is empty
[09:03] <txoof_> ardchoille: that's what I figured.
[09:03] <nuxord> :( curse you and your ability to make potent men become limp!
[09:03] <fredl> holycow, when you watch pr0n, do you care if she has a personality disfunction?
[09:03] <holycow> fredl, depends on your concience i guess
[09:03] <nuxord> i will care now!
[09:04] <txoof_> fredl: I think I might throw in an old hard drive and install ubuntu on it and see how it flys.
[09:04] <fredl> holycow, you're providing him/her with a way to make money right?
[09:04] <ardchoille> Folks, can we please take the pr0n talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[09:04] <fredl> ardchoille, n/p
[09:04] <pequatre> hello. my computer has no sound this morning ?!! yet it wirks fien under windows ? is there something like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for sound ?
[09:04] <holycow> fredl, i haven't spent a dime on anything, thus no
[09:04] <nuxord> ok ok, back onto ubuntu..whats with the name?
[09:04] <fredl> nuxord, ubuntu.com
[09:04] <nuxord> yar
[09:05] <fredl> explains it right there.
[09:05] <swuboo> Pequatre's question reminds me.  I have three sound jacks on my mobo.  Every time I go to plug in speakers, a different one will be live.
[09:05] <holycow> african word for 'humanity'
[09:05] <nuxord> :OO yeah, now i remmber
[09:05] <swuboo> Sometime's the center jack is live, sometimes the right-hand one.
[09:05] <fredl> as in "oh the humanity!"
[09:05] <swuboo> No apparent cause.
[09:05] <nuxord> HAHA fildo= dildo
[09:05] <nuxord> oosp
[09:05] <nuxord> oops
[09:05] <txoof_> thanks for the advice.  good night
[09:07] <fredl> so what engine runs on wiki.ubuntu.com I wonder
[09:07] <pequatre> anyone to help me troubleshoot my sound ?
[09:08] <holycow> !ask
[09:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:08] <Crippy-Boy> This is a pain in the arse
[09:08] <ardchoille> fredl: I always thought it was moinmoin
[09:08] <Crippy-Boy> Anyone want a mac?
[09:08] <holycow> not me, i try to stay away from proprietary platforms
[09:08] <fredl> ardchoille, tnx
[09:08] <holycow> i can't wait until we start to see mobos with openbios
[09:09] <swuboo> pequatre: Other than to suggest that you make sure no program is trying to use your soundcard, and make sure that you're using the correct output mixer, I have no real idea.
[09:09] <ardchoille> fredl: But, I could be way wrong
[09:09] <fredl> python-moinmoin I guess
[09:09] <Crippy-Boy> Well, if anyone wants one im about to dropkick it through my window.
[09:09] <UIE|Macros42> is the Linksys WMP54G supported out of the box on Ubuntu? I'm pretty much new to Linux but want to get started with it
[09:09] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, i wish i could help ... i donno much about instlaling ubuntu on a mac
[09:09] <swuboo> Crippy-Boy: Be aware that that may void you warranty.
[09:09] <nuxord> i installed unara and i am trying to use the sudo ln -s command but it only tells me 'file exists' and dosent really do anything
[09:10] <Crippy-Boy> Trying to set it up with wireless for my sister, Apple make it so hard to use a wireless card thats not their own
[09:10] <holycow> ln -s?
[09:10] <holycow> what
[09:10] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, I don't know for sure about Ubuntu 6.0 but on 5.0 it took a little bit of tweaking to do so
[09:10] <holycow> just right click and extracyt
[09:10] <R0cK3T> why doesn't anything work with 64 bit version of ubuntu?... you'd think it would be better than 32 bit... I just don't get it
[09:10] <ompaul> !airport
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <pequatre> WTF  ???!! The "PCM" slider (?) in the mixer was at the bottom ??!! i surely didn't move it myself. Anyway, that was the root of the "problem". Strange ??!!
[09:10] <UIE|Macros42> fredl: I couldn't get it working on 5 - and gave up :D Going to give it a better try now tho on 6
[09:10] <pequatre> now i can hear the sounds.
[09:11] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: No worries, i can already do that, but im leaving os x on since ive got more chance setting up wireless on it. (im using a none airport usb adaptor that has linux drivers but x86 binary only) *screams*
[09:11] <holycow> R0cK3T, 64 bit thing really doesn't result in a huge performance boost out of very specific workloads
[09:11] <Crippy-Boy> Big useless pile of white shite. </rant
[09:11] <Crippy-Boy> >
[09:11] <holycow> you only really gain in performance for things like VERY VERY large databases and specialty apps.  there isn't a lot that actually can use 64 bit fully.
[09:12] <OmniD> Rendering
[09:12] <holycow> yeah that too
[09:12] <OmniD> Highly detailed 3 dimensional scenes
[09:12] <OmniD> I mean
[09:12] <R0cK3T> ha
[09:13] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, you tried the ndiswrapper?
[09:13] <R0cK3T> i could just imagion tryin to install maya or 3dsmax on this shit
[09:13] <holycow> there is a 64 bit max?
[09:13] <holycow> i didn't know that
[09:13] <OmniD> Best 3D program for Linux is Blender right?
[09:13] <holycow> maya 64 bit was just announced
[09:13] <R0cK3T> i dunno
[09:13] <nuxord> im having trouble unraring things, i do the sudo ln -s command with the location, but it oly tells me 'creating symbolic link' and the 'file exists'what do i do
[09:13] <holycow> maybe you mean 64 bit blender or xsi
[09:13] <ISOLATEDViRuS> my friend is installing ubuntu onto his pc, and during the installation he gets an error message about the kernal sync, what might eb wrong?
[09:13] <OmniD> XSI?
[09:13] <UIE|Macros42> fredl: tried it but wasn't too sure what I was doing tbh :D
[09:13] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, one of the big problems with some wireless cards is that some use other chipsets than the other.
[09:13] <holycow> nuxord, dude, c'mon man
[09:14] <nuxord> im new!
[09:14] <Elive_user65> open with archive manager
[09:14] <UIE|Macros42> so I see - just looking at the forums now
[09:14] <swuboo> I'm using the 64bit k8 kernel, and I must say it does seem to be overkill, considering I mainly use Firefox, nethack, and LaTeX.
[09:14] <holycow> nuxord, please stop using some nonsense commands, right click on rar and unzip
[09:14] <holycow> thats it bro
[09:14] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, so you get for example two WMP54G's and they both have a completely different chipset.
[09:14] <Elive_user65> nuxord right click the first rar, open with archive manager
[09:14] <nuxord> or, it wont unzip, even tho iv installed unrar..wont regonize the file =\
[09:14] <UIE|Macros42> I'm downloading the live cd now - for installation on a different box - so I'll have this window open screaming for help a lot I'd say ;)
[09:14] <swuboo> Although when I accidentally clicked the "Open All in New Window" button on the BBC RSS feed, CPU usage peaked at 60%.
[09:14] <holycow> nuxord, i know your new, thats why i hate repeating my answers to your repeated questions
[09:14] <holycow> its annoying, please read suggestions :)
[09:14] <nuxord> 'archive type not supported'
[09:14] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, what you basically do with ndiswrappers is to install your windows drivers that come with the card.
[09:14] <Crippy-Boy> Hold on! i found an open source linux driver for it :D
[09:15] <holycow> nuxord, install rar too
[09:15] <Crippy-Boy> Hopefully i can install ubuntu and compile the driver
[09:15] <UIE|Macros42> fredl: really? windows drivers?
[09:15] <holycow> nuxord, i told you to install rar AND unrar :)
[09:15] <nuxord> wtf is rar, i cant find anything called 'rar'
[09:15] <foo> Here is my xorg.conf: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf ... I have an IBM G97 monitor (19", black). http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=532914/ - here are the specs on the monitor. I have random flickers on my screen. I am in 1600x1200. Any ideas?
[09:15] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, yeah I think so.
[09:15] <ardchoille> !rar > nuxord
[09:15] <nuxord> yar?
[09:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> my friend is installing ubuntu onto his pc, and during the installation he gets an error message about the kernal sync, what might eb wrong?
[09:15] <Elive_user65> jar?
[09:15] <UIE|Macros42> fredl: ok - I have windoze on that box atm so I'll see if I can get the chipset before wiping it
[09:15] <Elive_user65> har
[09:15] <nuxord> !rar
[09:15] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, *ponder* I got it to work in the past with something else though, not ndiswrapper...
[09:15] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:15] <yoshiznit123> bar
[09:15] <Elive_user65> far
[09:15] <R0cK3T> is there anyway i can use 32 bit ubuntu without uninstalling?
[09:16] <Elive_user65> star
[09:16] <holycow> nuxord, no rar, you may need to add universe repositories to get it
[09:16] <nuxord> oh i did, nothign exists wit the name 'rar'
[09:16] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, but that was something from a commercial vendor, maybe I'm confusing ndis with that one.
[09:16] <holycow> nuxord, it does, stop that
[09:16] <OmniD> scar
[09:16] <Elive_user65> par
[09:16] <OmniD> war
[09:16] <nuxord> im serious!  i dont see it =\
[09:16] <ISOLATEDViRuS> grr
[09:16] <UIE|Macros42> fredl: ok - I'll try ndiswrapper first then if it doesn't install at the start
[09:17] <R0cK3T> like ubuntu 64 bit has to be compatible with 32 bit in the first place no?
[09:17] <nuxord> there is rarpd...
[09:17] <holycow> nuxord, i know you don't see it, it is there tho, only everyone uses it
[09:17] <R0cK3T> so there has to be some kind of work around
[09:17] <wetri> hi ! i just migrate from suse to kubuntu !!  its nice !!!!!!!!!!
[09:17] <fredl> UIE|Macros42, enjoy :) I found wireless cards to be a pain in the past until I got my aironet card :P
[09:17] <UIE|Macros42> I can wire it to the router to get started anyway but I will need wireless on it
[09:17] <Elive_user65> sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[09:17] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, is there a way to use my wireless card as an access point?
[09:17] <yoshiznit123> any pointers to docs rather :-)
[09:18] <nuxord> dont play magic tricks on me, i am too young to be frightened with your crazy descsions about the blue or red pills!
[09:18] <fredl> yoshiznit123, I think so, search for ad-hoc
[09:18] <ardchoille> nuxord: rar is in multiverse
[09:18] <holycow> oh thats where it is
[09:18] <holycow> right, thx ardchoille
[09:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is bitlord or utorrent available for linux?
[09:18] <fredl> !ad-hoc
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ad-hoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <Elive_user65> how many freakin torrent clients do you need
[09:18] <foo> Here is my xorg.conf: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf ... I have an IBM G97 monitor (19", black). http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=532914/ - here are the specs on the monitor. I have random flickers on my screen. I am in 1600x1200. Any ideas?
[09:18] <R0cK3T> ad-hoc doesn't allow access to the net tho
[09:18] <ardchoille> nuxord: unrar is also in multiverse
[09:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i need one...
[09:19] <ardchoille> holycow: You're welcome :)
[09:19] <R0cK3T> ad hoc is only for a lan network i think
[09:19] <nuxord> then how can i see unrar and not rar?
[09:19] <Elive_user65> bittorrent should just fine then
[09:19] <holycow> ISOLATEDViRuS, gnome comes with one, its all you need imho
[09:19] <yoshiznit123> fredl, do you mean to set up an ad-hoc network? does that work for sharing internet access?
[09:19] <ardchoille> nuxord: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[09:19] <ISOLATEDViRuS> the normal torrent thing is horrible though
[09:19] <nuxord> how do i do that?
[09:19] <ardchoille> nuxord: then do: apt-cache search rar
[09:19] <ardchoille> !repos > nuxord
[09:19] <holycow> ISOLATEDViRuS, what more can you possibly need?
[09:19] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i wa over at my friend's house, and its much easier to manage the torrents and share them with utorrent or bitlord.
[09:19] <Elive_user65> i dont like this elive much, other than the eye candy
[09:19] <yoshiznit123> ardchoille, that gives way too many results btw :-)
[09:19] <nuxord> !repos
[09:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:19] <fredl> R0cK3T, well perhaps if you have an ethernet connection as well and use forwarding
[09:20] <ardchoille> yoshiznit123: Ah, yeah, good point
[09:20] <R0cK3T> unknown i guess
[09:20] <ISOLATEDViRuS> for starters, i dont need a screenful of little windows of each torrent im sharing, that woiuld be pretty nice to start..
[09:20] <holycow> is torrenting that l33t of an activity that one needs specialized clients?
[09:20] <holycow> just how much warez do you do on linux dude?
[09:20] <holycow> lol :)
[09:20] <yoshiznit123> holycow, not really, but something like utorrent would be nice for linux
[09:20] <swuboo> holycow: If one does enough of it, specialized clients are indeed helpful.
[09:20] <npster> hello someone ask a question
[09:20] <UIE|Macros42> one last q for the moment. will I be able to install Apache and PHP on the desktop version?
[09:20] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i dont want my screen full with torrent boxes
[09:21] <holycow> *shrug* i'll take your words for it :)
[09:21] <Elive_user65> distros come down nice and fast on wareztorrents
[09:21] <holycow> lol
[09:21] <holycow> ISOLATEDViRuS, i just right clickand send them to another desktop
[09:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yeah
[09:21] <ardchoille> UIE|Macros42: as long as you can access the correct repos, you can install them, yes
[09:21] <Elive_user65> personally i prefer newsgroups, pan 111 beta rocks
[09:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> id like to keep it organized, instead of a shitton of little boxes all over the screen.
[09:21] <swuboo> Bah, everyone knows the correct way to get a distro is to wander onto the campus of a major research university, and then download it from the CS department of another research university two time zones away.
[09:21] <HesNikke1> anyone know where i can find a deb for sun java?
[09:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> and the point of torrents are to share, thats what keeps it alive.
[09:22] <holycow> swuboo, lol, thats funny
[09:22] <UIE|Macros42> ardchoille: access them? you mean online? are there subscriptions required or just a connection?
[09:22] <fredl> Hmm, php5 is default on Dapper, correct?
[09:22] <Elive_user65> point of torrents is to get sued by riaa and mpaa
[09:22] <HesNikke1> the java that ubuntu gave me isn't working well with azureus
[09:22] <ardchoille> UIE|Macros42: just an internet connection
[09:22] <holycow> ISOLATEDViRuS, i guess i get what you mean now :)
[09:22] <UIE|Macros42> ardchoille: great - thanks
[09:22] <yoshiznit123> fredl, i've found some docs but all say you need a prism card... is it possible with bcm43xx
[09:22] <lostinc> Hi, any idea why VLC will play AVI and MPEG files but Totem wont?
[09:23] <fredl> I'm trying to install mediawiki but that gives a dependancy on PHP4 :/
[09:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> have torrents gone on trial yet? i know they were deemed legal in some other countries.
[09:23] <Elive_user65> totem will play avi and mpeg but u have to install win32codecs first
[09:23] <Deaigo> %uu
[09:23] <ardchoille> lostinc: sounds like you're missing some codecs
[09:23] <Deaigo> %u you
[09:23] <holycow> lostinc, because vlc uses w32codecs package but the default totem-gstreamer is installed which doesn't
[09:23] <fredl> yoshiznit123, sorry I don't know if it works on your specific card.
[09:23] <mjr> lostinc, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[09:23] <Deaigo>  you
[09:23] <lostinc> Why is it that VLC can play them native then?
[09:23] <ardchoille> !restricted > lostinc
[09:23] <fredl> yoshiznit123, try and you will see :)
[09:23] <holycow> either install the right gstreamer plugins, or install totem-xine
[09:23] <holycow> either should work
[09:23] <nuxord> i have ever single repository option enabled, and still dont see rar!! YAR!
[09:24] <lostinc> Ill stick to VLC then I guess why install more for nothing.
[09:24] <holycow> oh weird
[09:24] <lostinc> Thanks for the info though
[09:24] <holycow> steve irwin is dead, killed by a stingray
[09:24] <Elive_user65> someone explained how that vlc thingy works to me once, but i forget, made my head hurt
[09:24] <holycow> Elive_user65, i just explained it, its pretty simple
[09:24] <holycow> :)
[09:24] <myUserName> Can Somone Please tell me if its possible to do remote desktop with out being logged in. i want to setup my other computer as a Remote desktop server so it is in bash 24\7 but so i can login via remote desktop and do stuff is this possible?? and how?
[09:24] <Elive_user65> automatix is great for installing all that illegal stuff
[09:25] <holycow> Elive_user65, oh no its not
[09:25] <holycow> !automatix
[09:25] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:25] <Arafangion> vlc?
[09:25] <holycow> NO ONE SHOULD USE AUTOMATIX
[09:25] <R0cK3T> can someone walk me through a quake 3 install on ubuntu (amd 64/ati xpress 200m)?  I am confused to the point where i don't even know where to start!
[09:25] <holycow> this needs to be permanently in the channel topic
[09:25] <ardchoille> Elive_user65: Please don't recommend automatix in this channel
[09:25] <holycow> and like in bold flasshing text on the wiki
[09:25] <FirstStrike> i ran automatix once and it didn't break anything.
[09:25] <holycow> damnit, why do people insist on using that
[09:25] <FirstStrike> i guess i didn't select any packages of doom.
[09:25] <Elive_user65> okay, can i reccomend easy ubuntu in here?
[09:25] <ardchoille> !worksforem > FirstStrike
[09:25] <yoshiznit123> holycow, why?
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worksforem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <ardchoille> !worksforme
[09:26] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:26] <holycow> eliphas_, easyubuntu doesn't break anything and dioesn't bypass the package manager
[09:26] <nuxord> i did apt-cahce search rar and it gave me a list, now how do i instal rar?
[09:26] <printk> I'm a little confused, why do you need automatix when you have apt that automates installation of items /
[09:26] <ardchoille> nuxord: sudo apt-get install rar
[09:26] <holycow> automatix on the other hand is created by a retarded clueby that decided bypassing VERY WELL TESTEED TECHNOLOGY TTHAT WORKS is actually a good idea
[09:26] <FirstStrike> ardchoille: i'm glad you went through the effort just to waste my time with that
[09:26] <Healot> unrar
[09:26] <mkquist> hey guys any way to reinstall the terminal?
[09:26] <holycow> printk, because people don't do their research and think it makes sense to use it
[09:27] <printk> ah :)
[09:27] <ardchoille> FirstStrike: Don't mention it :)
[09:27] <yoshiznit123> mkquist, sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-terminal
[09:27] <Elive_user65> what about easyubuntu? is that ok?? huh
[09:27] <holycow> easyubuntu is fine
[09:27] <Elive_user65> otay
[09:27] <mkquist> well it the terminal isnt working, then how?
[09:27] <mkquist> if*
[09:27] <nuxord> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:27] <nuxord> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:27] <nuxord> is only available from another source
[09:27] <nuxord> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[09:27] <Elive_user65> cuz ive used automatix numerous times with no problems as i have easyubuntu
[09:27] <nuxord> what the bloody hell does that mean
[09:27] <fredl> Dapper *has* as default install PHP *5* right??
[09:27] <yoshiznit123> haha, you can drop back to the tty with Ctrl-Alt-F1, then use Alt-F2 to come back to the desktop
[09:27] <yoshiznit123> sorry, Alt-F7*
[09:28] <fredl> or am I hallucinating?
[09:28] <willzzz> hahaha
[09:28] <ardchoille> fredl: I believe php5 is the default, but I installed php4
[09:28] <nuxord> you mean alt+f4
[09:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS> how do i open something in wine?
[09:28] <fredl> ardchoille, coz it seems some packages are still based on PHP4
[09:28] <ardchoille> fredl: lots of them are, which is why I installed php4
[09:29] <yoshiznit123> nuxord, nah, alt-f7 is the X server i think
[09:29] <nuxord> ok i did sudo apt-get install rar ..........but it didnt work! help
[09:29] <ardchoille> fredl: I installed apache2 and libapache2-mod-php4 and my php stuff works
[09:29] <fredl> ardchoille, hmmm PHP5 is so much nicer though
[09:29] <ardchoille> fredl: Tell that to all the php devs, lol
[09:29] <fredl> I wonder how backports work....
[09:30] <Elive_user65> nux: all i can tell u dude, is sthat rar and unrar are in there, enable multiverse in synaptic repository settings
[09:30] <fredl> since I found a 'Mediawiki 1.7 backport for Dapper'
[09:30] <fredl> is it generally a wise thing to enable backports?
[09:31] <ardchoille> fredl: Are you good with mySQL?
[09:31] <fredl> Hmm I *have* backports commented out in my sources.list
[09:31] <nuxord> help me, sudo apt-get install rar dosent work
[09:31] <fredl> ardchoille, yeah fairly good, why?
[09:31] <fredl> nuxord, what's the error message you're getting then?
[09:31] <holycow> nuxord, dont forget to update apt after you add repost
[09:31] <ardchoille> nuxord: Can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please?
[09:31] <holycow> sudo apt-get update first
[09:31] <holycow> then do the sudo install part
[09:31] <ardchoille> fredl: Just curious, I don't know much of mySQL and that's why I chose a wiki that doesn't need it
[09:32] <ardchoille> holycow: Good catch, there
[09:32] <nuxord> Reading package lists... Done
[09:32] <nuxord> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:32] <nuxord> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:32] <nuxord> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:32] <nuxord> is only available from another source
[09:32] <nuxord> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[09:32] <fredl> ardchoille, ah I see. No, for me having Wiki stuff in mysql makes it even nicer since it's easier to search through it from other apps.
[09:32] <ardchoille> nuxord: Can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please?
[09:32] <Madpilot> nuxord, pastebin next time1
[09:32] <Madpilot> !, even ;)
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about even ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <Madpilot> ... shut up, bot.
[09:32] <ardchoille> fredl: Hmm.. I may have to learn mySQL :)
[09:33] <ardchoille> Madpilot: hahaha
[09:33] <fredl> ardchoille, it's real simple.
[09:33] <nuxord> i am not sure what you mean..what is /etc/apt/sources? list to pastebin mean
[09:33] <holycow> i never understood how anyone can use that other piece of junk :)
[09:33] <fredl> well I never really used postgres for a long time. I'm hearing it's much more complete than mysql though.
[09:33] <Bonez> http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[09:34] <brainiac_ghost> has anyone got a ur054g (inventel) wireless adaptor working (the one that comes with a livebox
[09:34] <Arafangion> fredl: One word: Referential Integrety
[09:34] <gansinho> hey guys I need a little help, a nice guy from ubuntu-xgl wants to ssh in here... how do I do that?
[09:34] <Arafangion> *integrity
[09:34] <holycow> just google mysql vs postgres
[09:34] <ardchoille> nuxord: You really need to learn how your package manager works, before you go doing much else.
[09:34] <fredl> Arafangion, that's in mysql 5 too though, right?
[09:34] <holycow> basically with any of the comparison matrices you will simply see that mysql isn't a real db
[09:34] <holycow> its basically a joke
[09:34] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, 1, apt-get install screen
[09:34] <nuxord> i feel to silly =\
[09:34] <Arafangion> fredl: I personally dislike the way that mysql handles default values and the way it handles case sensitivity and the NULL value.
[09:34] <nuxord> but i really wanna unrar my porn
[09:34] <holycow> its good enough for one off quickies, but i can't imagine actually using it for a real project
[09:35] <Arafangion> holycow: Personally, for a quickie, I'd use sqlite
[09:35] <nuxord> ahaha i dont think i can imagine how that sounded to you
[09:35] <gansinho> brainiac_ghost: ok!
[09:35] <holycow> Arafangion, heh, *nod*
[09:35] <Arafangion> holycow: What I also don't get is how insanely complex ORM's are.
[09:35] <fredl> didn't postgres get a big developper influx when mysql made itself impopular with their licensing scheme?
[09:35] <mkquist_> help reinstalling terminal?
[09:36] <Arafangion> holycow: I looked at three, tried two, and ended up writing my replacement - does everything I need, and in less than 300 lines!
[09:36] <yoshiznit123> has anybody here successfully set up their ubuntu computer as a wireless access point?
[09:36] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, start screen by typing screen
[09:36] <foo> Here is my xorg.conf: http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf ... I have an IBM G97 monitor (19", black). http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=532914/ - here are the specs on the monitor. I have random flickers on my screen. I am in 1600x1200. Any ideas?
[09:36] <CharonX> I am trying to run wine but it cannot fine libncurses.so.5 but I have it installed in /lib/ I put /lib on my path but wine still cannot find it ? I am running a amd 64
[09:36] <ardchoille> mkquist_: Can you CTRL+ALT+F2 and run the necessary sudo apt-get commands?
[09:36] <nuxord> bloody hell, i am lost
[09:36] <holycow> lol, yeah mate, i do haveto say tho that mysql really was a lot faster than postgres when it started out
[09:36] <fredl> screen? does that still exist? now there's a tool that rocked when X didn't work so well :)
[09:37] <holycow> and pg did have a deserved slowness rep back then
[09:37] <holycow> thats all changed for a long time now tho
[09:37] <CharonX> Anyone know how I can force wine to find that lib or how to fix it so it just finds it ?
[09:37] <gansinho> brainiac_ghost: ok... I pressed space and nothing happened...
[09:37] <ardchoille> fredl: I still run irssi+elinks+mutt+bash in screen
[09:37] <Elive_user65> next time reach for the sky
[09:37] <fredl> holycow, well that's the period I tried postgres in I guess :) and tossed it in the corner :)
[09:37] <Arafangion> holycow: By sacrificing ACID and the like, which are fundamental for good, reliable database foundations, sure.
[09:37] <mick_home> hi everyone, i'm curious if anyone can tell me how likely a deb that runs on debian will work on ubuntu
[09:37] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, right did it clear your screen?
[09:37] <ardchoille> fredl: There are days that I log in and never use X
[09:38] <holycow> Arafangion, *nod*, pg is really a good performer these days even with the overhead you get with acid support
[09:38] <gansinho> brainiac_ghost: yep...
[09:38] <Elive_user65> mick: who knows, try it and find out, the worse is youll get a error message
[09:38] <fredl> ardchoille, I used to use screen often when I was still on a modem, I'd remotely start something from my modem connection and when I came to the uni I could simply attach the running session.
[09:38] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, that is what is meant to happen
[09:38] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, :)
[09:38] <ardchoille> mick_home: It is not a good idea to use debian .deb packages on Ubuntu. Search the repos for the app you need or find an Ubuntu .deb
[09:38] <gansinho> thanks
[09:38] <mkquist_> ardchoille - e:invalid record in the preference file, no package header
[09:39] <mick_home> basically, I'm working on a deb and a friend of mine uses ubuntu -- i wanted to know how easy it would be to work on both
[09:39] <gansinho> brainiac_ghost: but I want to let a person who's trying to help me ssh in here...
[09:39] <ardchoille> fredl: Yeah, I can attach this chat session from any of the other 10 computers in my house
[09:39] <Arafangion> mick_home: If you absolutely must use a debian packge on Ubuntu, I highly recommend you use a source package, and compile it.
[09:39] <fredl> ardchoille, that remark on Debian needs some refinement IMO :) it is really not a good idea that Ubuntu .deb's differ so much from Debian .deb's :)
[09:39] <mick_home> ardchoille, that is impossible in my situation ;)
[09:39] <mick_home> fredl, that is what i was thinking
[09:39] <Arafangion> fredl: They don't really differ much at all - it's hte *dependencies* that differ.
[09:39] <mick_home> the only requirements are: (c)make, libtiff and libpng atm
[09:39] <ISOLATEDViRuS> my friend gets this error... Kernel Panic - not syncing! Fatal recognition in interrupt
[09:39] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, this just lets you see what he's typing, can never be too secure :)
[09:39] <fredl> but anyway, no Debian/Ubuntu fights :)
[09:40] <ardchoille> fredl: I think it's a path difference
[09:40] <ISOLATEDViRuS> what is wrong?
[09:40] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, don't want him to rm -rf /* your hard drive
[09:40] <holycow> and the dependencies are different FOR DEBIAN REASONS
[09:40] <nuxord> if i try to do apt-get update it wont allow me, why?
[09:40] <Arafangion> ISOLATEDViRuS: Turn off caps please.
[09:40] <nuxord> 13 permissions denied it says
[09:40] <Elive_user65> how bout some ubuntu and feespire fights?
[09:40] <holycow> you guys haveto remember that ubuntu FREEZES debian unstable EVERY 6 MONTHS
[09:40] <brainiac_ghost> holycow, what, old depreceated rubbish reasons
[09:40] <holycow> debian unstable changes from day to day
[09:40] <fredl> nuxord, you typed 'sudo' in front of your apt-get update, right?
[09:40] <gansinho> nuxord: type sudo before it
[09:40] <ardchoille> nuxord: Do you have synaptic open?
[09:41] <holycow> therefore if you wait two days after release, debian unstable and ubuntu will have diverged
[09:41] <Arafangion> holycow: Personally, I feel that they should have 12-month cycles, not 6-months.
[09:41] <nuxord> no i dont but no i didnt type sudo =\
[09:41] <Arafangion> holycow: 6-months is just insane.
[09:41] <fredl> holycow, true....
[09:41] <ardchoille> nuxord: need sudo for some apt-get commands
[09:41] <holycow> thus the dependencies are different, BUT NOT for any of the reasons a lot of dd's bitch about
[09:41] <mick_home> holycow, i'm creating the package for testing (most likely)
[09:41] <holycow> Arafangion, at first i was really excited by the 6 moht thing, i really  like testing out new stuff
[09:41] <mick_home> sid is too much of a headache ;)
[09:41] <holycow> Arafangion, but in productions absolutely
[09:41] <nuxord> i really need to get reading on ubuntu a bit more, i have no clue what these commands mean
[09:41] <ardchoille> holycow: Really? I never knew that
[09:41] <holycow> i am now of the same opinion Arafangion
[09:41] <mkquist_> anyone, cant use terminal, and now apt-get is buggered..
[09:42] <gansinho> brainiac_ghost: I'm in pvt...
[09:42] <holycow> ardchoille, yes its true.  in other words ubuntu holds VERY CLOSE to debian
[09:42] <fredl> why is 6 months insane?
[09:42] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, is multiverse enabled?
[09:42] <holycow> its not a fork at all, just a clever way to package debian unstable
[09:42] <printk> with a fast pace changing enviroment 6 months seems reasonable to me
[09:42] <mick_home> holycow, so i guess i should be fine then
[09:42] <holycow> printk, not in production, let me tell you
[09:42] <Elive_user65> id just like to see ubuntu get their freaking xorg updates right myself
[09:42] <holycow> for my servers i want no less than a release every two years
[09:42] <Arafangion> holycow: Do you have a website that documents this, btw?
[09:42] <printk> yah not in production definitely
[09:43] <mick_home> the requirements aren't that big and they seem pretty standard
[09:43] <printk> i'd run LTS for 5 years
[09:43] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, if it is type apt-get install ssh
[09:43] <printk> since it's supported
[09:43] <printk> i mean workstation
[09:43] <holycow> even that is frickin retarded for servers, desktop, at most once a year for me in productions
[09:43] <holycow> Arafangion, no, i should put it on the wiki
[09:43] <gansinho> brainiac_ghost:  I'm newb enought to doesn't understand what multiverse is
[09:43] <ISOLATEDViRuS> My friend gets this error, what is wrong?  Kernel Panic - not syncing! Fatal recognition in interrupt
[09:43] <holycow> mick_home, for the most part yes you should be fine
[09:43] <Arafangion> holycow: I was hoping for at least a mailing list thread ;)
[09:43] <fredl> anybody know how I can find out what's in the backports repository?
[09:43] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:43] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, :)
[09:43] <ardchoille> holycow: If you do put it in the wiki, please give us the URL. I'd like to readi abot it.
[09:44] <holycow> mick_home, basically it will either work or you will be told about the dependency in which case recompile
[09:44] <nuxord> how can i "paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please?"
[09:44] <mick_home> what do i do to get the package into ubuntu (don't tell me it is like becoming a dd)
[09:44] <fredl> !pastebin
[09:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:44] <holycow> Arafangion, lol, why? i thought it was common knowledge
[09:44] <pustota1> question: where can I get some guidelines about how to configure kernel and compile it under ubuntu and still have working system afterwards ;-)
[09:44] <pustota1> ?
[09:44] <Arafangion> holycow: It is not common knowledge.
[09:44] <holycow> i think i'll create a wiki webpage on this and use marks neato diagram of how the tangential fork works
[09:44] <pustota1> or plain vanilla kernel howto would do ?
[09:44] <holycow> Arafangion, really?
[09:44] <holycow> weird
[09:44] <holycow> okay time for some edumacation!
[09:45] <ardchoille> fredl: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[09:45] <Flannel> !tell pustota1 about kernel
[09:45] <holycow> people treat ubuntu as a separate distro
[09:45] <printk> !kernel
[09:45] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:45] <holycow> its not really
[09:45] <holycow> its just a special case of debian
[09:45] <gansinho> brainiac_ghost: I've installed it
[09:45] <gansinho> ssh
[09:45] <holycow> plus or minus some niceness 10 million a year of marks dollars buys you
[09:45] <printk> uhrm it is technically a diff distro
[09:45] <printk> with strong ties to debian
[09:45] <Xorlev> Okay, so I had to reinstall my system. I kept my home directory and restored upon reinstall, and for some reason none of my KDE settings are being shown?
[09:45] <printk> diff repo, diff installation system.
[09:45] <fredl> ardchoille, there's no clever apt-search command or something for that?
[09:45] <mick_home> holycow, so becoming a dev is impossible w/o committing 5 yrs of your life to the project :)
[09:46] <ardchoille> fredl: There may be, but I don't know what it is
[09:46] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, sudo /etc/init.d/(the one that sounds SSH like, probably sshd or openssh)
[09:46] <holycow> mick_home, with linux after 5 years your only a noob :)
[09:46] <R0cK3T> can someone tell me how to get all the 32 bit libraries so i can install q3?
[09:46] <brainiac_ghost> gansinho, e.g. /etc/init.d/sshd start
[09:46] <mick_home> holycow, you misunderstood
[09:46] <nuxord> how can i install rar, nothing works, i type sudo apt-get install rar but it denies it..help
[09:46] <printk> nuxord: what does "it denies it" mean?
[09:46] <mick_home> holycow, i was refering to the fact that it takes that long to become a dd (give or take)
[09:46] <holycow> !package
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <holycow> !packages
[09:46] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:46] <redondo81> Hi boys,good morning
[09:47] <Crippy-Boy> sudo apt-get install unrar i believe
[09:47] <ardchoille> nuxord: Now can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?
[09:47] <Elive_user65> nuxord, last time im telling you this, listen up!
[09:47] <holycow> nuxord, search that site for it, download deb, double click on it to install
[09:47] <fredl> !pastebin > nuxord
[09:47] <R0cK3T> is there anyway i can use the apt-get-install cmd to install all the 32 bit libraries?
[09:47] <mick_home> 7zip also works (if unrar isn't)
[09:47] <ardchoille> fredl: Thank you :)
[09:47] <holycow> mick_home, oh haha!
[09:47] <holycow> mick_home, hehe missed that, yeah, funny :)
[09:47] <Elive_user65> nuxord, open synaptic, select repositories, add, then check both empty boxes, then update synaptic then search for rar
[09:47] <nuxord> i type /etc/apt/sources.list and every combination with it and nothing works =\
[09:47] <nuxord> Reading package lists... Done
[09:47] <nuxord> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:47] <nuxord> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:47] <nuxord> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:47] <nuxord> is only available from another source
[09:47] <nuxord> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[09:47] <Arafangion> nuxord: PASTEBIN
[09:47] <nuxord> all empty boxes are clicked on
[09:47] <ardchoille> nuxord: PASTEBIN!
[09:47] <redondo81> I have a problem, I have to reinstall windows xp on my pc after I installed linux kubuntu,but if I install windows xp now, it doen't see linux in the booting
[09:47] <mick_home> holycow, still didn't get my question answered ;)
[09:48] <Xorlev> Is there any reason why my KDE is not showing my previous settings when using my old /home/username directory after reinstall?
[09:48] <Crippy-Boy> nuxord: the package is unrar not rar
[09:48] <R0cK3T> whats the pastebin?
[09:48] <fredl> LOL nuxord won't use the pastebin, PERIOD LOLOL
[09:48] <Arafangion> ardchoille: Thanks, I forgot the '!' :)
[09:48] <redondo81> what can I do?
[09:48] <ardchoille> Arafangion: :)
[09:48] <nuxord> bloody ell unrar is installed
[09:48] <fredl> !pastebin > R0cK3T
[09:48] <mick_home> redondo81, install windows first. it must be in the first part of the boot sector - then install linux
[09:49] <mick_home> anyone in here an ubuntu dev?
[09:49] <Flannel> redondo81: you'll need to restore grub, let me get you a link
[09:49] <Flannel> redondo81: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:49] <redondo81> ok, thanks I'll read it
[09:49] <ardchoille> fredl: I actually found that link by mistake. I was curious about the URL's in sources.list so I visited them and lo and behold it listed all that stuff
[09:49] <mick_home> Flannel, would that work if linux is on the first part of the drive?
[09:50] <fredl> ardchoille, well it works alright....
[09:50] <mick_home> that might be an old technical restriction
[09:50] <fredl> ardchoille, but it's kind of a pain to search through the subdirectories, since I'm lazy
[09:50] <Flannel> mick_home: that'll work regardless.  Of course, WINDOWS needs to be hda1,
[09:50] <R0cK3T> isn't pastebin a lil extreme for 5 lines of txt?
[09:50] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: No.
[09:51] <nuxord> ardchoille i am not sure wtf the /ect/stuff/ is but is this what you wanted?
[09:51] <holycow> not for a chan with 800 members
[09:51] <nuxord> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22510
[09:51] <xhaan> windows can also be hdb1 if you trick it with grub :0
[09:51] <nuxord> i need grub
[09:51] <fredl> R0cK3T, too many people on here sometimes, it's hard enough as it is to keep track of more than 1 conversation at the same timer
[09:51] <nuxord> im starving
[09:51] <xhaan> heh
[09:52] <R0cK3T> true eh
[09:52] <R0cK3T> lol
[09:52] <R0cK3T> i just had chilli's
[09:52] <R0cK3T> two of em :P
[09:52] <fredl> nuxord, that's good, you now understand pastebin. Now go ahead and also cut and paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list in there
[09:52] <holycow> careful what you scratch
[09:52] <holycow> >_>
[09:52] <holycow> *cough*
[09:52] <nuxord> the blooddyyyyy fuck is /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:53] <nuxord> i get nothing for that command
[09:53] <fredl> I'm dying for a chili-cheese-onion-fries from fatburger.
[09:53] <DBO> !language > nuxord
[09:53] <Crippy-Boy> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:53] <holycow> nuxord, hehehe
[09:53] <glick> nuxord, its not a command
[09:53] <xhaan> try cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:53] <printk> nuxord: cat /etc/apt/sources.list is the command.
[09:53] <Healot> nuxord: it's no f***ing command, it is a file
[09:53] <holycow> nuxord, just allow me to warmly welcome you to linux
[09:53] <ardchoille> nuxord: No, that isn't what I wanted. Open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, copy/paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, then give me the URL so I can see why you're having this problem.
[09:53] <fredl> nuxord, it's a file. Yoiu need to cut and paste the contents of that file to pastebin
[09:53] <holycow> nuxord, you have a lot to learn and it seems  you have hit a bit of a wall
[09:54] <fredl> holycow, understatement of the year :) but hey, we've all been there!
[09:54] <nuxord> you mean terminal or test editor?
[09:54] <holycow> nuxord, might i kindly suggest that you sleep it off?  seriously, when you get back tommorrow, i guarantee your /etc/apt/sources.list will be there :)
[09:54] <ardchoille> nuxord: did I say terminal?
[09:54] <holycow> i used to get that a lot when i started out too
[09:54] <holycow> fredl, oh man, and i haven't forgotten it either :)
[09:54] <nuxord> i actually have gotten about 5 hours sleep in the last 2 days
[09:54] <di0rz`> hi
[09:54] <holycow> nuxord, :) lol i trullly ADMIRE your determination :)
[09:54] <fredl> holycow, I've forgotten a long long time ago.
[09:54] <Madpilot> nuxord, that might not be the best starting point for learning Linux :)
[09:55] <holycow> nuxord, we really are trying to help.
[09:55] <xhaan> nuxord, yes open terninal and type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <cbgb> hi there, anyone know hows to setup wlan with a RT61 chip?
[09:55] <fredl> holycow, and that for pr0n. I think pr0n is the best motivation for people to learn Linux :P
[09:55] <holycow> nuxord, appologies for the frustration.  do remember that everything you learned on windows is wrong.  if we could magically make you unlearn windows all this would seem a lot easier to be honest :)
[09:55] <holycow> hehe
[09:55] <glick> numist, read this http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ then you wont look like a foo
[09:55] <holycow> fredl, hehe :)
[09:55] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Kernel Panic - not syncing! Fatal recognition in interrupt <--any help?
[09:55] <printk> shit i learned Linux when I was 13 on SLS (the distro slackware is based off of)
[09:55] <holycow> he does seem like anice chap :)
[09:56] <printk> learning from ubuntun is nothing :)
[09:56] <printk> damn i can't believe tha'ts over 10 years ago now
[09:56] <nuxord> i fucking hate windows becuase i use illegal copies and keep getting those annoying messeges how i 'must' spend 300$ on a single copy for a single computer, fuck them, i am a pirate YAR
[09:56] <Crippy-Boy> fredl: yeah because nothings better than cheesy linux pr0n with chicks wearing thongs with 'got root' on the front :-/
[09:56] <printk> xhaan: yah it is
[09:56] <holycow> well ubuntu now is not only the biggest distro outside of maybe debian, it has THE BEST documentation wiki anywhere
[09:56] <printk> xhaan it hides alot
[09:56] <fredl> nuxord, you know how to open your File browser?
[09:56] <holycow> this distro really can help noobs just get in there and start hacking away at it to make stuff work for the  most part
[09:56] <ardchoille> Well, I was trying to help him.. but he didn't seem to want to follow my instructions.. pity
[09:57] <holycow> ardchoille, probably from frustratio
[09:57] <holycow> i've snapped a few times my self :)
[09:57] <mopflite> holycow: ubuntu has taken over from suse in that respect
[09:57] <ardchoille> holycow: Or lack of sleep
[09:57] <fredl> ardchoille, hehe he's trying but it does seem intimidating when 4 people start yelling at you to USE THE PASTEBIN :-)
[09:57] <holycow> ardchoille, :)
[09:57] <holycow> mopflite, *nod* indeed
[09:57] <mopflite> suse used to rock, but much and progressively less so since the novell acquisition
[09:57] <Crippy-Boy> I find linux gets easier once you realise 'everything's a fucking file!'
[09:57] <Flannel> !language
[09:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:57] <holycow> mopflite, just goes to show that novel would of been better off doing what mark has done
[09:58] <printk> Crippy-Boy: heh yes, that's for UNIX period :)
[09:58] <yoshiznit123> hey everyone, which /etc/init.d/* do i need to restart after i've changed my /etc/iftab?
[09:58] <holycow> and mark has done it for a fraction of what they spent on suse
[09:58] <ompaul> Crippy-Boy language - don't do it again
[09:58] <DBO> !language Crippy-Boy
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language Crippy-Boy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <DBO> doh...
[09:58] <ardchoille> fredl: People told him to use the pastebin several times.. I don't think he was listening as well as he should have been
[09:58] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, yes, there is a stage after that ... its the part where you start to UNLEARN everything you learned on windows
[09:58] <fredl> It just seems that anything that's cool opensource and gets taken for a ride by any commercial company loses it's cool very quickly doesn't it?
[09:58] <mopflite> holycow: novell are hopeless at marketing, full stop - from experience, they would struggle with any product, no matter how good it was
[09:58] <Crippy-Boy> xhaan: was that really needed, 2 people told me previously.
[09:58] <Crippy-Boy> And im sorry
[09:58] <Crippy-Boy> It was just emphasisng my point :-)
[09:58] <Crippy-Boy> Wont do it again
[09:58] <holycow> windows is a system based on a single user DOS environment paradigm.  everything they do follows from that and everything is simply tacked onto that paradigm
[09:59] <ardchoille> The person who introduced me to Linux made me use it for two months without X. Today, I am very glad she did it that way :)
[09:59] <foo> I followed the ubuntu wiki on setting up flgrx and it broke my X. Here is my config and log ...  http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log ... any ideas?
[09:59] <holycow> mopflite, i'm starting to think the same
[09:59] <fredl> see, when Ubuntu gets bought by Microsoft...
[09:59] <holycow> mopflite, they have such an amazing distribution system
[09:59] <holycow> what they need to do is just drop suse
[09:59] <holycow> and adopt ubuntu, right now
[09:59] <Crippy-Boy> Lol fredl: that makes no sense
[09:59] <fredl> pretty soon very much less people will be using Microsoft-Ubuntu :-)
[09:59] <holycow> and use their support and distribution channels to push it forward
[09:59] <holycow> they would save money and time
[10:00] <mopflite> holycow: for example, novell groupwise is a great product - it should have higher market share than microsoft exchange - the only reason it isn't is due to novell's marketing and commercial shortcomings
[10:00] <glick> ubuntu in baby blue is so nice, that should be the default
[10:00] <holycow> mopflite, indeed
[10:00] <yoshiznit123> http://www.mslinux.org/
[10:00] <printk> most don't even know what novell groupwise is :)
[10:00] <printk> which should tell you something
[10:00] <mopflite> s/isn't/doesn't
[10:00] <fredl> holycow, corporate companies just don't work that way. They feel they need to have some control over what's going on.
[10:00] <Crippy-Boy> what would MS do with aload of GPL'd code.
[10:00] <holycow> printk, indeed
[10:00] <holycow> fredl, i totally agree with you.
[10:00] <bushblowz> in linux how to tell what the IP of the box you are on is
[10:00] <Crippy-Boy> Not to mention they dont need to BUY anything :-)
[10:00] <xhaan> i just know it says novell on top of my compiz cube :p
[10:00] <bushblowz> in knoppix
[10:01] <glick> bushblowz, ifconfig
[10:01] <fredl> holycow, and once the control factor kicks in, developpers run away screaming.
[10:01] <ardchoille> Crippy-Boy: What makes you think there isn't a ton of GPL'd code in Window's code base now?
[10:01] <R0cK3T> does ubuntu have lynx?
[10:01] <holycow> fredl, i have been thinking about this and you totally hit it on the head.  it is really really hard tounlearn old ways of doing things ... i can see why they would shy away from community based stuff
[10:01] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: It's in the repos
[10:01] <mopflite> bushblowz: running ifconfig should tell you
[10:01] <glick> R0cK3T, you can apt get it
[10:01] <holycow> fredl, i really think that canonical can make mint off of support for ubuntu
[10:01] <ardchoille> !info lynx
[10:01] <R0cK3T> repos?
[10:01] <ubotu> lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4552 kB
[10:01] <gerhard> Since I use fglrx, my computer doesnt shut down correctly. i only have a black screen and i have to disconnect it from the power. how do i correct that?
[10:01] <holycow> our company is ready to start buying support for it
[10:01] <bushblowz> thanks glick
[10:01] <Crippy-Boy> ardchoille: The fact that itd be illegal, and however stupid ms are i dont think theyd risk that kinda thing, And the win 2k code leak that turned up no gpl'd code
[10:02] <fredl> holycow, well, if commercial companies that offer 'test packages' would make Ubuntu packages, it'd rock.
[10:02] <yoshiznit123> if Microsoft GPL'ed all their code and opened development, would you help
[10:02] <fredl> holycow, like Oracle does.
[10:02] <ardchoille> Crippy-Boy: It would surprise me.. seeing as how they steal from everyone else
[10:02] <Crippy-Boy> Though i think they lifted half the tcp/ip stack code from BSD in one of the windows versions, but thats just rumor, Which is permitted by the BSD license anyway
[10:02] <mtholdenss> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249902
[10:02] <holycow> fredl, *nod* oracle is a bit of a dinosaur that way too
[10:02] <R0cK3T> how do you apt get it?
[10:02] <holycow> they are far far too agressive in this new day and age
[10:03] <fredl> holycow, that's the *only* way IMO that commercial vendors can benefit from opensource, is by contributing to it instead of taking it andf making it theirs.
[10:03] <glick> for a billion dollars there is no one in here that wouldnt sell linux down the river
[10:03] <Flannel> Guys, can we take the linux/bsd/windows/whatever else to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:03] <holycow> fredl, offering support for open source packages i think could be very much a good play for a lot of companies
[10:03] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: Get lynx?
[10:03] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: sudo apt-get install lynx
[10:03] <fredl> glick, but it doesn't matter, as long as it's GPL, one can sell it through the nose but the next thing that'd happen is a GPL fork would continue and continue faster than the bought version
[10:04] <holycow> of course sometimes its not ... the company that  makes btrieve tried to offer support for postgres but didn't realize the pg community was very well supported commercially already
[10:04] <fredl> holycow, I'd *buy* a license for Oracle if I knew it supported Ubuntu
[10:04] <holycow> heh
[10:04] <NewpZ> hi is there a way to launch X and 1 app (instead of a window manager and logging in)?
[10:04] <fredl> holycow, but still the large vendors support distros like Suse and RedCrap.
[10:04] <glick> db2 is supported on ubuntu
[10:04] <holycow> i wouldn't, larry ellison is an ass and he would stab you in the back without thinking twice
[10:04] <holycow> thats someone i don't feel comfortable working with
[10:04] <NewpZ> like laucha a X app without gdm/kdm
[10:05] <holycow> fred indeed
[10:05] <Flannel> NewpZ: you need an Xserver running.  So if you wanted you could launch X and then the app, sure.
[10:05] <ardchoille> NewpZ: If you did that, how would you "manage" the "window" that the app launches in?
[10:05] <Seveas> NewpZ, man startx
[10:05] <R0cK3T> ardchoille: haha it worked?? thanx vm
[10:05] <holycow> fredl, i think marks companies can step up and start doing support for ubuntu
[10:05] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: You're welcome :)
[10:05] <fredl> NewpZ, yes, disable gdm/kdm and do 'startx' after you login on the terminal
[10:05] <holycow> i know they are already working on it, i think he has the right mix of vision plus experience to pull it off
[10:05] <NewpZ> its an mame arcade machine
[10:05] <fredl> holycow, but that's not *vendor* support.
[10:05] <holycow> fredl, not yet
[10:06] <NewpZ> i just want to power it up and it automagicly lauch a mame frontend
[10:06] <holycow> fredl, you can only ignore the largest/second largest distro on the planet for so long
[10:06] <fredl> holycow, maybe he could function as a 'conduit' though.
[10:06] <InfoxicatingLady> anyone have any ideas about why my puter won't pick up the dsl connection?
[10:06] <holycow> when mark starts really hammering support home vendors will come onboard
[10:06] <holycow> its just a matter of time
[10:06] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: with more binary only drivers that are flaky at best?
[10:06] <printk> NewpZ: it's best to have a login atleast... but after the person logins it can start x and run just that one app
[10:07] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, they can't really, the kernel api/abi's don't stay stable enough for tha tto happne
[10:07] <printk> NewpZ: other wise you're gona have to do alot of customizing for what you want, but it's possible
[10:07] <fredl> holycow, well, market penetration of Linux here in the Netherlands is going steady still. I read an article where they expect 15% penetration in corporate business in 2009
[10:07] <NewpZ> i dont think u want to try logging in with a xarcade control pannel
[10:07] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, novel is trying to provide some sort of intermediary layer to allow for that, but they need to be shot for doing something so stupid
[10:07] <NewpZ> there is no keyboard
[10:07] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: There are plenty of binary only drivers already, and people just accept them
[10:07] <holycow> fredl, really?
[10:07] <holycow> i love nl :)
[10:07] <holycow> fredl, i was in amsterdam last year, i gotta visit once again :)
[10:08] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, yeah :/ its sad and very very bad
[10:08] <fredl> holycow, I wouldn't be surprised if US market penetration is far ahead of that.
[10:08] <fredl> holycow, I used to live in California and *certainly* in CA market penetration is higher than that.
[10:08] <holycow> fredl, i would, the us is full of microsoft shills
[10:08] <Crippy-Boy> The sad part of it all is i dont understand why the vendors don't just release decent docs, Let other people write decent drivers, get more sales, everyones happy
[10:08] <printk> NewpZ: uhm you could setup your environment in single user mode like that and enter single user mode init scripts
[10:08] <holycow> fredl, really? bit surprising
[10:08] <printk> NewpZ: but that's gona be pretty unsecure that way and then again that'll have no networking so that won't work :)
[10:09] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, i think its sadder that the vendors don't understand them selves
[10:09] <fredl> holycow, hah! .nl is FULL of microsoft shills at government levels.
[10:09] <NewpZ> no networking.. its an arcade machine :)
[10:09] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, i kinda get that vendors are so super busy competing that paying attention to the gpl is hard but
[10:09] <NewpZ> if someone roots it they can steal my roms!
[10:09] <NewpZ> hehe
[10:09] <printk> NewpZ: and people are going to be playing it localling, infront of the actual machine?
[10:09] <printk> and not remotely?
[10:09] <holycow> i really think they don't understand why they should them selves, i don't think they spend any time thinking about it and understanding why its improtant and why its a competitive advantage
[10:09] <NewpZ> its in my basement... my 5 year old and his friends are not a security risk yet
[10:10] <fredl> holycow, it's quite stifling actually, I don't agree much with you that .nl is so 'cool' about Linux.
[10:10] <River> when attempting to use xmms i get the error message that it is being used or blocked by another program ... how do i reset the soundcard?
[10:10] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: People should go back to making their own hardware, Homebrew computer club style *laugh*
[10:10] <holycow> fredl, really? eh, damnation
[10:10] <holycow> fredl, one would think a nice communist country like nl would be more open to collaboration :)
[10:10] <InfoxicatingLady> fredl: isn't there a shortage or PERL coders in .nl, though?
[10:10] <holycow> *cough*
[10:10] <holycow> joke!
[10:10] <fredl> holycow, many more pretenses and 'should do's' than 'are doing's'
[10:10] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, your not far off
[10:11] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, i think the free software world is big enough to actually start making it possible to make 10 000 unit orders for stuff and be able to expect to sell it
[10:11] <fredl> holycow, socialist, mind you. Just as evil or maybe even more evil than communism because socialism makes people succesfully believe they're not communist.
[10:11] <holycow> its a very very large niche market right now
[10:11] <holycow> fredl, hehe
[10:11] <holycow> fredl, i'm canadian, i'm proud of our socialism
[10:11] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: Yeah, fair enough, but with the costs of manufacturing hardware these days, who can afford to do it and be profitable?
[10:11] <holycow> but we are a lot closer to th eus model of capitalism than th eeu model of socialism
[10:12] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, i have a sneaky feeling one can ... i just don't  have 1/2 mil to gamble righ tnow
[10:12] <fredl> socialism makes people LAZY
[10:12] <holycow> fredl, i disagree actually
[10:12] <holycow> i used to think that
[10:12] <holycow> but without socialism those lazy people end up on the streets
[10:12] <holycow> like in the us
[10:13] <fredl> so?
[10:13] <fredl> survival of the fittest.
[10:13] <holycow> i'd rather pay them to stay housed and fed than end up pushing carts around
[10:13] <Flannel> !offtopic
[10:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:13] <holycow> naw, i don't feel its that simple
[10:13] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: fair enough, Its ok when your talking lan cards, plenty of chinese companies producing them for pennies, but when you start talking about vid cards, mobo chipsets etc it all gets a bit complicated. i just dont think many besides big vendors have the resources
[10:13] <fredl> yeah ur right flannel, sorry.
[10:13] <holycow> but yes what Flannel said, probably better to keep it there :)
[10:13] <Crippy-Boy> Ofcourse i could just be talking crap, as usual.
[10:13] <Crippy-Boy> ok
[10:13] <fredl> Crippy-Boy = Crappy-Boy then? :-)
[10:13] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, there is a n open source video card project in the works actually
[10:14] <Crippy-Boy> fredl: Aye, most of the time.
[10:14] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, and they think they have enough market crossover to make it profiteable
[10:14] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: where do i sign up?
[10:14] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, motherboards are another thing we should be able to get with say openbios, and turn those around for a profit
[10:14] <Crippy-Boy> Anyways, im in offtopic before i get told off again :P
[10:14] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, i'd haveto look up the linkage, perhaps google it ... *hmm*
[10:17] <R0cK3T> is it possible to apt-get install xvid?
[10:18] <holycow> lol
[10:18] <holycow> Flannel, congratulations on killing the conversation
[10:18] <holycow> *poof*
[10:18] <Flannel> !tell R0cK3T about xvid
[10:18] <holycow> like magic
[10:18] <holycow> hehe :)
[10:18] <R0cK3T> yeah ;)
[10:18] <NewpZ> i just installed the nvidia drivers.. how can i chack to make sure x is using them?
[10:18] <R0cK3T> i gave up on q3
[10:19] <Flannel> holycow: shrug, its what usually happens when you ask people to go to -offtopic, not that anyone who suggests it is trying to kill it.
[10:19] <R0cK3T> although if i knew how to properly install all the 32 bit lib's, then i might give q3 another shot
[10:19] <azathoth> NewpZ: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:19] <holycow> Flannel, i'm kidden, indeed
[10:19] <infidel> where do i get the kernel source?
[10:20] <azathoth> use glxinfo to find out all info on your drivers
[10:20] <Flannel> infidel: you can get it from the repositories,
[10:20] <glick> infidel, apt-get kernel-source
[10:20] <Flannel> !tell infidel about kernel
[10:20] <R0cK3T> or just install the lib's i need
[10:20] <NewpZ> azathoth, hehe... just says "no"... hrm i followed the ubuntuguide to a T
[10:20] <NewpZ> weird
[10:20] <glick> damn women cops are hot
[10:20] <infidel> !kernel
[10:20] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:20] <glick> oops
[10:20] <glick> wrong channel
[10:20] <azathoth> have you setup your drivers in xorg.conf as nvidia, not nv?
[10:21] <NewpZ> Driver: "nvidia"
[10:21] <Healot> which country's women police, glick?
[10:21] <infidel> glick: i didn't get anything from apt-get kernel-source
[10:21] <glick> heh
[10:22] <glick> infidel, im sorry, you need to do sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[10:22] <Crippy-Boy> Well, im happy, i got wireless working on the pile of white crap (mac), got mono working properly, and sorted out the rc scripts :-) days work done
[10:22] <glick> or use synaptic
[10:22] <R0cK3T> glxinfo didn't work for me
[10:22] <Healot> ono works perfectly in Windows :
[10:22] <Healot> hoho
[10:22] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, congrats dude :)
[10:22] <Healot> ironic
[10:22] <infidel> glick: ok thanks
[10:22] <R0cK3T> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:22] <brainiac_ghost> can someone PLEASE help me
[10:23] <Healot> ask  brainiac_ghost
[10:23] <brainiac_ghost> find a windows driver with a usbid in it
[10:23] <glick> just ask yur Quackinator brainiac_ghost
[10:23] <brainiac_ghost> 1435:0427
[10:23] <Healot> lsusb -v  brainiac_ghost
[10:23] <Crippy-Boy> holycow: thanks, the only real plain was the mac. And i found the usb wireless adaptor i have has open source linux drivers :-)
[10:23] <Healot> it will tell you details
[10:23] <brainiac_ghost> Healot, done that, trying to find the driver that supports it
[10:24] <R0cK3T> glxinfo
[10:24] <R0cK3T> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:24] <Healot> brainiac_ghost: what type of device is it?
[10:24] <py_> hello, I just tried to install the nvidia driver on an up-ti-date dapper, and X is not starting anymore: kernel module version is 1.0-7174 while the nvidia-glx version is 1.0-8762. How do I solve this?
[10:24] <brainiac_ghost> Healot, wireless
[10:24] <infidel> glick oh oh i'm getting the wrong kernel source
[10:24] <brainiac_ghost> Healot, why can't they all just use rt2500 :(
[10:24] <NewpZ> wow looks like i came to right place with my nvidia driver issue :)
[10:25] <glick> infidel, then go to kernel.org if you want the latest vanilla kernel
[10:25] <Healot> rt drivers are available at rt driver project page
[10:25] <Healot> 24xx and 2xx should work though
[10:25] <glick> but it wont be the kernel used in ubuntu
[10:25] <bioticpro> anyone here use or know about js2mouse?
[10:25] <brainiac_ghost> Healot, i've used rt2500, nice'n easy, this is conexiant
[10:25] <glick> cause the ubuntu kernel is modified with ubuntu specific patches
[10:25] <foo> I followed the ubuntu wiki on setting up flgrx and it broke my X. Here is my config and log ...  http://x01.ath.cx:81/temp/xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log ... any ideas? I've tried the fglrx, radeon, and ati drivers... all the same problem. This system works fine with Windows, so it's not the monitor or the card. Lame. Anyone reported this problem before? I've been troubleshooting this all day and I don't think there's a fix. blah
[10:25] <infidel> glick: i'm using 2.6.15 and it's downloading 2.4.27
[10:26] <R0cK3T> it happened to me
[10:26] <jasonx>  If I wanted to install the new Thunar from this page: http://thunar.xfce.org/download.html#0.4.0. Would I have to delete my existing Thunar that came with Xubuntu?
[10:26] <R0cK3T> foo:
[10:26] <foo> R0cK3T: Really?
[10:26] <R0cK3T> yeah
[10:26] <R0cK3T> i had a buddy helpin me to get xgl goin
[10:26] <foo> R0cK3T: Did you fix it, ever? Or what?
[10:26] <foo> hm
[10:27] <glick> infidel, use synaptic and sownload the 2.6 source
[10:27] <R0cK3T> but he backed up the xorg.conf
[10:27] <NewpZ> i just installed it all through that wiki X is fine, but direct rendering is off
[10:27] <R0cK3T> so i dunno :P
[10:27] <R0cK3T> im just a nub
[10:27] <infidel> glick: ok
[10:28] <jazzrocker> foo, ATI sux on linux
[10:28] <FirstStrike> indeed
[10:28] <foo> jazzrocker: so I'm learning
[10:28] <jazzrocker> i've heard ATI support is better these days but i'd never buy one for linux... nVidia all the way
[10:28] <Crippy-Boy> Aye, im going to replace mine with an nvidia soon
[10:28] <jazzrocker> for windows only? sure
[10:29] <Crippy-Boy> Stick my ati card in something else
[10:29] <jazzrocker> hardware performance wise, just like AMD and Intel, nVidia and ATI are neck and neck... not really a huge diff between their top of the line cards
[10:29] <FirstStrike> i have a geforce 6800 GS. It's been treating me well but as soon as prices drop on the 7900 i'll probably end up getting that.
[10:29] <jazzrocker> linux driver wise, nVidia stil wins these days
[10:30] <jazzrocker> my nVidia GeForce 2 MX/400 still kicks pretty damn well
[10:30] <jazzrocker> plays CS original at 1280x1024 at over 60fps
[10:31] <FirstStrike> heh..
[10:31] <jazzrocker> Quake 4? now that's a different story :(
[10:31] <jazzrocker> my FX5700 *barely* does Q4 at 640x480
[10:31] <Awesome-o2000> is there an ubuntu netinstall image available anywhere? like the debian netinstall cd's? I appear to have misplaced my dapper cd
[10:31] <infidel> glick: i'm trying to instal a cisco vpn client and it's asking me where the source is and it's saying default directory is here /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build but i'm used to the source code being in /usr/src/linux is the software right?
[10:31] <Awesome-o2000> only one i have is xubuntu
[10:32] <jazzrocker> Awesome-o2000, the wiki has info for install methods
[10:32] <Awesome-o2000> jazzrocker - URL plz?
[10:32] <jazzrocker> STFW, it's there
[10:32] <jazzrocker> !install
[10:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:32] <glick> infidel, well thats where the modules are
[10:32] <glick> for the curent kernel
[10:33] <Awesome-o2000> stfw?
[10:33] <glick> infidel, but yeah the linux source is usually in /usr/src/linux
[10:33] <jazzrocker> Awesome-o2000, generally speaking you should probably search the wiki before you ask in here because a LOT of stuff is covered on the wiki
[10:33] <jazzrocker> Awesome-o2000, Search The Fantastic Web
[10:33] <Awesome-o2000> lol fantastic eh
[10:33] <glick> infidel, once you download the source you have to set the /usr/src/linux link up your self
[10:33] <jazzrocker> Awesome-o2000, in your case... yes... very :P
[10:33] <glick> its really a link to the source dir
[10:34] <R0cK3T> can anyone help me get the right 32 bit libraries, so i can install q3?
[10:34] <NewpZ> for svideo using nvidia drivers.. i have 2 screens (i can drag a window from my lcd over to the right and it appears on my tv screen) how do i make the tv display the same as what is on the desktop? i think.... Option "TwinView" has somethign to do with it
[10:34] <infidel> glick:  is the linux kernel image the same thing as source?
[10:34] <|pSiCo|> hi
[10:35] <jazzrocker> infidel, no
[10:35] <jazzrocker> infidel, it's the opposite
[10:35] <R0cK3T> amd 64, using ubuntu x86_64
[10:35] <Crippy-Boy> Kernel image is compiled
[10:35] <Crippy-Boy> Source is source.
[10:35] <infidel> jazzrocker: i don't see the source in synaptics then
[10:35] <jazzrocker> infidel, look for 'linux-tree'
[10:35] <Przemcio1978> hi, where can I find good drivers for my logitech quickcam chat webcam?
[10:36] <infidel> ok guys i found it thanks
[10:36] <jazzrocker> Przemcio1978, all the good ones were eaten by the fat guy in the corner :(
[10:36] <Crippy-Boy> I didnt eat them...
[10:36] <foo> hmm, what is the equivalent of chkconfig on ubuntu?
[10:36] <jazzrocker> foo, ubuntu doesn't have chkconfig?
[10:36] <foo> jazzrocker: nope
[10:36] <jazzrocker> foo, there are numerous apps for managing services
[10:37] <jazzrocker> foo, sys-v-update i think it's called, there's also BUM, and i'm pretty sure you can install chkconfig
[10:37] <jazzrocker> BUM kinda sucks though... sysv-rc-update or whatever it's called is way better
[10:37] <foo> jazzrocker: ahhh, doh. thanks.
[10:38] <cute_bettong> does any have experiance with mythtv? i want to run my tv card which is an ati radeon
[10:38] <rambo3> cute_bettong,  j #mythtv-users
[10:38] <mkquist_> anyone know how to reinstall gnome?
[10:38] <cute_bettong> k
[10:39] <Crippy-Boy> Is there actually any linux support for the all-in-wonder cards?
[10:40] <jazzrocker> heheh, that name always kept me from buying those cards lol... i took one look at the name and said "nope, not what i want"
[10:40] <Crippy-Boy> Lol
[10:40] <|pSiCo|> for working purposes I need to install a keylogger into a ubuntu desktop 6.06.1 (is for debug the work of a user in a continuosly-coredumped program), anyone can help me? LKL is reporting a segfault when I exec it :(
[10:40] <Crippy-Boy> My unc has one, Fantastic card.
[10:40] <glick> heh netbsd is in trouble
[10:41] <Crippy-Boy> glick: really?
[10:41] <jazzrocker> glick, what'd you do to it?
[10:41] <Arafangion> jazzrocker: I always wondered how they got past the grammar nazis, because I can't make any sense of those names!
[10:41] <glick> yeah its basically i belly up fish
[10:41] <Crippy-Boy> Just a shame theres probably no decent linux support, Would be ideal for a myth-tv or general desktop box
[10:41] <jazzrocker> hahaha, it's about time one of those BSD projects went under
[10:42] <Crippy-Boy> jazzrocker: Why's that?
[10:42] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Just put in logging information into the damn program! :)
[10:42] <Crippy-Boy> *BSD has its uses :-)
[10:42] <jazzrocker> Crippy-Boy, well part of the whole BSD philosophy is that the system is all sort of integrated, and 4 (or more) different flavors of BSD kind of works against that
[10:42] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: I like my OBSD server, indeed.
[10:42] <First|Bleh> so does ubuntu and every other distro out there
[10:43] <|pSiCo|> Arafangion, I can't, is a compiled program without that option... is a VERY OLD program from own client
[10:43] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Exactly, id have more faith in OBSD out of the box on a server than linux or infact anything else.
[10:43] <|pSiCo|> sorry for my english
[10:43] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Hmm, what kind of interface?
[10:43] <py_> when installing nvidia-glx, how to ensure I get the same version than the one of the kernel module?
[10:43] <|pSiCo|> I need to deploy a keylogger on a development machine running ubuntu 6.06.1 because we need to debug a program that is crashing all the time...
[10:43] <jazzrocker> i think that the BSD's should get back together and just package themselves slightly differently like Ubuntu vs Kubuntu vs Xubuntu etc etc
[10:43] <dpgraves> need help getting sound working where is best to start have ibm 300gl 6862
[10:44] <jazzrocker> FreeBSD-Desktop, FreeBSD-Server, FreeBSD-Secure etc etc
[10:44] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: The only issue with OBSD is that it doesn't seem to be suitable for _real_ server hardware.
[10:44] <|pSiCo|> I'm sure the program crashes when the user types a special key combination
[10:44] <Crippy-Boy> jazzrocker: Why? they all have different goals, politics would get in the way (as it has before hence why OBSD exists)
[10:44] <DarkMageZ> how do i scroll up and down in the console?
[10:44] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: You know, those with high redundancy, RAID, and all other coolness.
[10:45] <jazzrocker> Crippy-Boy, right, they've got different goals, just as ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server are designed to fit radically different goals but are based on the same underlying system
[10:45] <Arafangion> DarkMageZ: PgUp/PgDn (Perhaps in conjunction with SHIFT)
[10:45] <jazzrocker> anyway, whatever it's a moot point
[10:45] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Yeah, ive never worked in a real server envornment so dont know about the hardware support, But id be pretty confident in the security.
[10:45] <DarkMageZ> Arafangion, nope :(
[10:46] <Arafangion> DarkMageZ: Use a better terminal emulator, then.
[10:46] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: Actually, nor have I, so it's a moot point :)
[10:46] <k> i have an installation problem.My system locks up when the installer scanning devices in the manually edit partittion table mode. But partition editor working fine if I run it from the admin menu. What could be the proeblem (6.06)?
[10:46] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: Still, I really like Debian for servers.
[10:46] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: This OBSD is really an experiment, of sorts.
[10:47] <Crippy-Boy> DarkMageZ: or you could use | less after your command, pgup, pgdn and q to quit.
[10:47] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: So, what is the primary interface for this program?
[10:48] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Ah, i know if i ever had to run a server [my limited knowledge]  id probably go for debian, FreeBSD or OpenBSD. but i know nothing about server <apart from maybe how to configure basic stuff>
[10:48] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Curses-like, or line-buffered?
[10:48] <DarkMageZ> :( the problem is that the output has come from an app that was running for 3 hours. i'm using the console from pressing ctrl+alt+f1.
[10:48] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: So, what is the primary interface for this program?
[10:49] <Awesome-o2000> I found my cd!!! woohoo!!!
[10:49] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: The distingiushing philosophy behind a server, imho, is that it does NOT go down.
[10:49] <DarkMageZ> i didn't want gnome running while it was working... guess i should have used a real terminal emulator
[10:49] <py_> DarkMageZ, as you "left" this console, all that is not on screen is lost
[10:49] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Heh, I tidied my room today - found 3 harddrives
[10:49] <Chandu> hi , how to remove orphan packages
[10:49] <wizzard1> How do I store a password i a text file on the correct way so VNCviewer can read it? when I type xvnc4viewer 192.168.0.3 -passwordfile ~/.vnc/passwd/1 I get the error : bad obfuscated password length
[10:49] <Chandu> I tried to install mozilla-firefox from the repository , but bcz of internal dependencies if is partially installed ..
[10:49] <Chandu> and now if I want to install r remove other pacakges it is showing "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[10:49] <DarkMageZ> py_, oh, it's still sitting there, i just have to scroll up
[10:49] <Chandu> "
[10:49] <Chandu> and showing list of orphaned packages
[10:49] <Chandu> I dont want to isntall those .. How to correct this
[10:50] <Crippy-Boy> Arafangion: Yup, Mine proabably would. Either down a stair way or out of a window :-)
[10:50] <Crippy-Boy> I havent got much patience at times, Especially when its a silly error
[10:50] <py_> DarkMageZ: I mean if you went on another term (-f2) or in X or the console turned off it's gone
[10:50] <|pSiCo|> Arafangion, is a Xwin session, with many programs, and I need a keylogger, i can't do a script for each program, the keylogger is the best solution in this cases and in other linux boxes it works great, but in ubuntu LKL crashes with coredump
[10:50] <Arafangion> Crippy-Boy: Three good, working hdd's.
[10:50] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Oh! That's all?
[10:51] <Crippy-Boy> lol
[10:51] <k> I have an installation problem.My system locks up when the installer scanning devices in the manually edit partittion table mode. But partition editor working fine if I run it from the admin menu. What could be the proeblem (6.06)? Can someone help?
[10:51] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: Just record the X11 sessino in a way to play it back :)
[10:51] <glick> so i guess the LTS release will be in '08?
[10:51] <|pSiCo|> hummm
[10:51] <DarkMageZ> py_, it's on another machine. the console is still there. i can see the end out the output. i just have to scroll up afew lines to get the useful output
[10:51] <Crippy-Boy> Especially when programming, Some of GCC's errors are the most useless ever.
[10:52] <glick> i tried kubuntu for a while
[10:52] <|pSiCo|> can i record a user-session in X ? i'm the root of the machine
[10:52] <|pSiCo|> a video session? :?
[10:52] <First|Bleh> I am root. Hear me roar.
[10:52] <glick> kubuntu gets supper annoying frustrating to use after about 45 minutes
[10:52] <glick> supper = super
[10:53] <py_> DarkMageZ: yeah I understood, but when you came back to the machine, the console was "off" because of the "screen saver" mode of linux, eg you had to press shift or something like that to get something on the screen right?
[10:53] <wizzard1> fhat is the differens betwe k and regular?
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> The most annoying thing about kubuntu is the bloody big tooltips for everything, I had to turn those off after about 10 seconds
[10:53] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: I can't recommend particular solutions, as I've never used it, but I do know that you can record X11 traffic.
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> kubuntu uses KDE
[10:53] <jimi_> hello! i have some problems addind a local printer. i cannot see any printers in the listbox. all drivers are installed.
[10:53] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: vnc2swf I believe allows you to do it.
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> ubuntu uses gnome, and xubuntu uses Xfce
[10:53] <infidel> when you were saying i have to setup the source by hand you weren't joking were you?
[10:53] <Arafangion> |pSiCo|: But that particular one probably disregards keyboard entry.
[10:53] <wizzard1> oki
[10:53] <First|Bleh> kde is for people that like eye candy GUI's :P
[10:54] <jimi_> i am using dapper and gnome
[10:54] <|pSiCo|> Arafangion, maybe it works, thanks
[10:54] <glick> actually i think the gnome gui is much easier and nicer on the eyes
[10:54] <Crippy-Boy> Theyre all ok and have their place.
[10:54] <DarkMageZ> py_, i had to tap a key to wake it yes. the console isn't frozen. all i need to do it scroll up :(
[10:54] <Crippy-Boy> Ubuntu for accesibility and ease of use, KDE for....well people that like it i suppose, XFCE and flux....for MEEEEEEEE
[10:54] <First|Bleh> kde reminds me of a fisher price toyset :P
[10:54] <infidel> anyone off the top of there heard know how to unzip a tar.bz2 file?
[10:55] <Healot> tar xvfj
[10:55] <Crippy-Boy> I love flux, i sometimes wish it wasnt AS ugly or pain to configure though
[10:55] <Healot> or bunzip2
[10:56] <First|Bleh> gnome is nice and simple and has some nice skins that make it a little more eye candy-ish without being bloated (as i feel kde is)
[10:56] <jimi_> infidel: in aterminal run bunzip2 -c file.tar.bz2 | tar xvf -
[10:56] <infidel> ok i will
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> Yeah, its nice its a little laggy on old ish hardware though.
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> I propose a fluxbuntu :D
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> [i know there is one, seems dead though, not released] 
[10:57] <mkquist> crippy-boy, u use xfce, hows it diff from gnome?
[10:57] <NewpZ> umm....cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.pyrecade.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pyrecade login"    results in cvs [login aborted] : connect to cvs.pyrecade.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.209):2401 failed: No route to host
[10:57] <py_> DarkMageZ: if you had to wake it up, everything that is not on the screen itself is _gone_. It's not in any buffer anymore. See what I mean? That's what I was trying to explain, with my poor english.
[10:57] <dpgraves> new to ubuntu cannot get sound working ibm 300gl model 6862
[10:57] <DarkMageZ> py_, oh. i get it now. that's a shame...
[10:57] <Crippy-Boy> mkquist: seems a little more responsive, but i use flux mainly
[10:58] <DarkMageZ> py_, i'll spend the 3 hours running it again to get the output, but this time with a proper terminal emulator. thanks
[10:58] <mkquist> crippy-boy - flux another desktop?
[10:58] <benkong2> good day all
[10:58] <mkquist> dpgraves - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive
[10:58] <warfy> hi, is anyone free that can help me out?
[10:59] <Crippy-Boy> window manager.
[10:59] <warfy> i need to get Wine installed but i dont have internet on ubuntu for the package manager
[10:59] <Arafangion> warfy: Wine is one of the few packages for which a source install is best.
[10:59] <benkong2> where can one learn how to change icons for things like trash empty/remove and items on the panel?
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: mkdir ~/winehq
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: And Use ./configure --prefix=/home/warfy/winehq
[11:00] <R0cK3T> whats the proper syntax to copy a dir and its contents to another dir?
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: Then, export PATH=$PATH:/home/warfy/winehq/bin
[11:00] <Arafangion> warfy: (You fill in the blanks)
[11:01] <R0cK3T> cp /dir/dir/filename /dir/dir/dir/filename?
[11:01] <warfy> ahh ok
[11:01] <warfy> let me give it a go
[11:01] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: Don't use the '?', otherwise, you're set. :)
[11:01] <R0cK3T> but that works just for single files
[11:01] <jimi_> looking for some cups help
[11:01] <R0cK3T> i need to move a whole folder and its contents
[11:01] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: You may want to turn on recursive mode, -r
[11:02] <R0cK3T> it doesn't work the same
[11:02] <R0cK3T> so
[11:02] <azathoth> R0cK3T: cp /path/to/* /path/three
[11:02] <slacker_nl> lo
[11:03] <Abst> slacker_nl, hey
[11:03] <R0cK3T> bah
[11:03] <benkong2> R0cK3T, mv -R  /your_folder /your/new/destination
[11:03] <azathoth> that's move
[11:03] <azathoth> not copy
[11:04] <benkong2> R0cK3T, -R makes it recursive
[11:04] <benkong2> that what he said move
 whats the proper syntax to copy a dir and its contents to another dir?
[11:04] <eetfunk> hi guys!  im trying to install apache 2.2.3 on my Ubuntu box (from source, not in apt-get yet).  However, it install crap all over the place in not-so-debian-friendly folders.  Where can I find instructions to make a clean install?  (ie: config in ./etc/apache2/ and so on)
[11:04] <R0cK3T> ahhh
[11:04] <azathoth> then he said move... :)
[11:04] <R0cK3T> mv -R  /your_folder /your/new/destination
[11:04] <azathoth> so he was tryign to confuse us
[11:04] <R0cK3T> i bet that one will work
[11:05] <Crippy-Boy> R0cK3T: Yeah it'll MOVE it.
[11:05] <benkong2> R0cK3T, that command will move the entire folder
[11:05] <benkong2> R0cK3T, is that what you want to do?
[11:06] <warfy> Arafangion: I got this error message at ./configure --prefix=/home/warfy/winehq
[11:06] <warfy> 1 sec
[11:07] <warfy> error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:07] <R0cK3T> i did this
[11:07] <Digital> hello everyone
[11:07] <R0cK3T> the -R messed it up
[11:08] <Digital> can anyone tell me why my wacom changes input events sometimes after a restart?
[11:08] <R0cK3T> so i did mv /home/me/Desktop/folder /dir/dir/destination
[11:09] <Crippy-Boy> R0cK3T: www.linuxcommand.org Just have a read through and mess around
[11:09] <R0cK3T> haha
[11:09] <R0cK3T> worked
[11:09] <R0cK3T> took a while
[11:09] <R0cK3T> but it worked
[11:10] <Przemcio1978> hi, i'd like to split my home partition into 2 partitions, how to do this?
[11:10] <Przemcio1978> i have to install windows cuz my webcam doesn't work :(
[11:11] <Digital> no one eh. well it was worth a shot
[11:11] <Crippy-Boy> Przemcio1978: what webcam is it?
[11:11] <piernik> hi I did dist-upgrade and now my eth0 has gone. How to fix it?
[11:11] <Arafangion> piernik: What is eth0?
[11:11] <Przemcio1978> i mean i have got a lot of free space on that partition and i'd like to make some free space for windows
[11:12] <Crippy-Boy> resize the partition.
[11:12] <Przemcio1978> this is logitech quickcam chat (skype version)
[11:12] <piernik> net interface  the only one (except loopback)
[11:12] <Crippy-Boy> gparted should work.
[11:12] <jimi_> use qtparted to resize partitio
[11:12] <Digital> Przemcio1978, can't you just put in the distro disc and use any app on there, I thought it came with a partition manager
[11:12] <jimi_> ifup eth0
[11:12] <jimi_> to activate eth0
[11:13] <neilg> 'lo
[11:13] <piernik> doesn't work
[11:13] <Przemcio1978> ok, thanks i'll resize it
[11:13] <Naik0> hey folks, my sound is working but not great. It feels like the sound quality is very very bad. I think maybe i missing some drivers
[11:13] <piernik> no such device
[11:13] <Arafangion> Przemcio1978: I'm wondering if qemu would allow you to use that in windows, running the entire show within a "window".
[11:13] <Zmanu> hello
[11:13] <neilg> i'm having a problem with sata drives - i install ubuntu fine but i can't boot without using the live cd - just hangs with a blank screen otherwise
[11:13] <Zmanu> i want to know, if it's difficult to update ubuntu
[11:13] <Crippy-Boy> Przemcio1978: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net
[11:14] <piernik> I get message SIOCSIFADDR ;no such device
[11:14] <Arafangion> Przemcio1978: Alas, it seems that it doesn't.
[11:14] <piernik> and later eth0 no such device
[11:14] <Arafangion> Przemcio1978: Though, it'd be interesting if VMware allows you to access the usb device...
[11:14] <rambo3> piernik, lshw -C network
[11:15] <Przemcio1978> Crippy-Boy i found that http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3801, it apperas there aren't any drivers, the advice given in the comments doesn't work
[11:15] <Digital> could anyone tell me where to get themes from?
[11:15] <piernik> moment I'll turn on the broken pc
[11:15] <Crippy-Boy> Przemcio1978: ahh, i appologise
[11:15] <R0cK3T> how to make sure i have all the 32bit libraries before i install q3?
[11:15] <warfy> ok wine wouldnt install because I dont have a acceptable c compiler
[11:16] <warfy> whats a valid c compiler
[11:16] <Przemcio1978> i didn't know that quickcam chat and quickcam chat skype ver. might require different drivers under linux
[11:16] <warfy> that i can use
[11:16] <Arafangion> warfy: build-essential
[11:16] <ardchoille> warfy: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:16] <Arafangion> warfy: Also, might need some other dependencies as well.
[11:16] <Arafangion> warfy: Perhaps try sudo apt-get build-dep wine first
[11:17] <Arafangion> ardchoille: An issue is that he doesn't have an internet connection.
[11:17] <Przemcio1978> is using gparted safe?
[11:17] <ardchoille> Arafangion: Ah, that would pose a problem
[11:17] <warfy> ok il give it a go, yeah thats true - no net looks like a big problem
[11:18] <Crippy-Boy> back soon
[11:19] <Mocka> I ubuntu good?
[11:19] <Bonez> Mockayes
[11:19] <Mocka> Is Suse better?
[11:20] <Arafangion> ardchoille: Do you have a friend with a working version of wine?
[11:20] <Arafangion> Mocka: Define "good" and "better"
[11:20] <Madpilot> Mocka, you're in #ubuntu. We're biased. ;)
[11:20] <ardchoille> Arafangion: No, all my friends refuse to use Windows apps
[11:21] <Arafangion> ardchoille: The best advise would probably be to ask/beg your friends to compile wine, completely (ie, with sound and opengl)
[11:21] <piernik> lshw has showed I have  network disabled
[11:21] <warfy> im not sure i did it right... i went to extracted wine directory then typed 'sudo apt-get build-dep wine'
[11:21] <ardchoille> Arafangion: Why? We have no use for wine
[11:21] <Arafangion> ardchoille: Then ask them to copy their apt archives from /var/cache/apt/archives and put it onto a CD.
[11:21] <neilg> i'm having a problem with sata drives - i install ubuntu fine but i can't boot without using the live cd - just hangs with a blank screen otherwise
[11:22] <Przemcio1978> how to resize a partition with gparted?
[11:22] <Arafangion> ardchoille: Oh, oops, wrong user ;)
[11:22] <Arafangion> warfy:...
[11:22] <ardchoille> Arafangion: :)
[11:22] <Arafangion> warfy: Refer to what I said to ardchoille  :)
[11:22] <warfy> ok
[11:22] <finalbeta> No flash player till 2007 http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=34880
[11:22] <Mocka> I cant decide what distro to use
[11:23] <Mocka> someone told me ubuntu renders your system useless
[11:23] <Mocka> other people have said its good
[11:23] <rambo3> piernik, is it ethernet card ? what module does it use,
[11:23] <Slinkin> Has anyone had any luck with write-to-ntfs partitions?
[11:23] <crashd> Slinkin: fuse-ntfs works fine for me
[11:23] <jerb> spin some live CDs
[11:23] <Arafangion> Mocka: Be aware that Ubuntu has alot of Debian biases.
[11:23] <Macros42> I'm trying to load from the live cd and when I get to th "Mounting root file system" part it's just hanging there. Been there 1 hour now - any ideas?
[11:23] <klos> nvidia settings or nvidia glx ? which one should i install ?
[11:24] <Arafangion> Mocka: And Ubuntu just isn't as good at upgrading as Debian is - then again, Debian is right up there for being reliable adn stable.
[11:24] <neilg> Macros42: do you have a sata drive?
[11:24] <Slinkin> ok.. thanks
[11:24] <crashd> Slinkin: find out about it on the ubuntu wiki or ubuntuguide
[11:24] <Macros42> nope - it's an old box - pre-sata
[11:24] <Arafangion> Mocka: Personally, Ubuntu isn't quite as good at upgrading as Debian, but probably better than most others.
[11:24] <neilg> oh :/
[11:24] <warfy> may i ask - how do you get a c compiler on? i thought every linux distro out there had c and c++ compilers
[11:24] <Arafangion> Mocka: It is damn easy to install, that's for sure.
[11:24] <Arafangion> warfy: They do, but not neccessary by default.
[11:24] <Arafangion> warfy: It's about 300MB or so extra.
[11:24] <warfy> ah ok
[11:24] <crashd> warfy: check the wiki, you need to apt-get install build-essential
[11:24] <Slinkin> Yeah I read it, I just thought it sounded like a dangrous game.. hehe
[11:25] <piernik> stupid intel 82801 Why dist-upgrade  messuped my net hardware config?
[11:25] <rambo3> piernik, is it e100 module
[11:25] <ardchoille> I'm really liking this GTK2 theme: http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/483/screenshot8km3.jpg
[11:25] <piernik> I had similar problem on my laptop
[11:25] <ardchoille> Oops, sorry about that, wrong channel :(
[11:25] <Mocka> I like mandriva but they are very restrictive as they want to make money
[11:25] <rambo3> piernik, same here
[11:25] <Arafangion> warfy: Ask your friends to package up their apt archives onto a CD that you can use as an archive.
[11:26] <rambo3> piernik,  dmesg |grep e100
[11:26] <warfy> problem - none of my friends even know what linux is
[11:26] <looktj> im sad
[11:26] <neilg> lol warfy
[11:26] <neilg> why looktj
[11:26] <Mocka> Mandrake is a legend...why does mandriva suck now?
[11:27] <mkquist> man flux is ugly...lol
[11:27] <FirstStrike> i talk to some of my friends about linux
[11:27] <piernik> rambo3: grep found 3 matches
[11:27] <FirstStrike> and they're just like "I don't use it because it's too hard"
[11:27] <rambo3> any errors ?
[11:27] <Arafangion> warfy: You are going to have to get the .deb's somehow.
[11:27] <warfy> yeah true
[11:27] <looktj> steve irwin died
[11:27] <Arafangion> looktj: That's the 5th time I've been told, and I don't even know who the heck he is!
[11:27] <Slinkin> He was so cool
[11:27] <FirstStrike> Congratulations looktj! You're the 20th person today to announce that!
[11:28] <neilg> lol
[11:28] <looktj> lawl
[11:28] <warfy> yeah - i can re-install cos its a fresh install anyway, i just need photophop on there
[11:28] <glick> i totally saw him dying this way years ago
[11:28] <Arafangion> looktj: It's almost like everybody is celebrating.
[11:28] <Przemcio1978> i can't choose resize from gparted menu
[11:29] <wor> Hello all. Could someone assist me in a cron.daily problem I'm having?
[11:29] <FirstStrike> wor: i'm sure some one could if you actually state what the problem is
[11:29] <wor> I added a script which backs up my mysql database and placed it in /etc/cron.daily
[11:30] <rambo3> blacklisting e100 (i wnat to use eepro100 )won't actually stop it from loading , how do i fix this ?
[11:30] <warfy> so i should just download a new iso image a try agian? one with 6 or 7 cd's
[11:30] <warfy> is there a ubuntu distro that big?
[11:30] <ardchoille> no
[11:30] <Arafangion> warfy: All you need is a local mirror of some sort.
[11:30] <wor> The problem is that it is not executed. Other files like logrotate get executed and are also placed in /etc/corn.daily
[11:30] <ardchoille> warfy: AFAIK, all the Ubuntu ISO's are i cd
[11:30] <neilg> yip
[11:31] <rambo3> warfy, i hope you know what an ARCH is
[11:31] <neilg> dammit has noone else had sata problems with ubuntu?
[11:31] <Arafangion> warfy: If you had a friend who was also an ubuntu user, you could just get tehir archive, and use dpkg-scanpackages to essentially turn that into an archive.
[11:31] <warfy> rambo3: sorry no idea
[11:31] <cherubiel> guys, this is awesome http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/appinfo.html?csaid=620C62A612446B12
[11:32] <wor> I added the script to /etc/crontab by hand and than it executes at the given time.
[11:32] <ardchoille> wor: I never tried that. I usually put daily scripts in a certain path and then do "crontab -e" and make a crontab that calls the script.
[11:32] <wor> Is there something with cron.daily which I could have forgotten to do?
[11:34] <Naik0> where can i see what prog that using most Memory atm
[11:34] <neilg> top
[11:34] <FirstStrike> Naik0: run "top" in a terminal
[11:34] <xNinja> hello
[11:34] <Arafangion> Naik0: Be aware that shared memory and the like can result in misleading memory consumption.
[11:34] <xNinja> is the runlevel 3 in ubuntu the normal boot without x window ?
[11:34] <Arafangion> Naik0: Then, run top, and hit M (or m, can't remember which), to sort by memory.
[11:35] <Naik0> ok thanks Arafangion FirstStrike and neilg hehe
[11:35] <wor> ardchoille: That is of course possible and it works ok. But I would like to know what goes wrong.
[11:36] <finalbeta> Can I use vmware server to have multiple people working on the same virtual desktop (but not one and the same desktop). So one image for several users, but they have their own  session.
[11:37] <Macros42> neilg: the problem was with the cd drive it seems - just tried a new one and it's working fine
[11:38] <Arafangion> finalbeta: I wouldn't bother.
[11:39] <Arafangion> finalbeta: I would, however, provide a standard image, which is read-only.
[11:39] <Arafangion> finalbeta: And let anyone use it in snapshot mode.
[11:39] <vincenz> Hello
[11:39] <vincenz> What program should I use to burn a dvd?
[11:39] <Bonez> vincenz: is it a movie dvd or data?
[11:40] <lupine_85> gnomebaker
[11:40] <lupine_85> or k3b :)
[11:40] <vincenz> Bonez: data
[11:40] <Bonez> vincenz: gnomebaker
[11:40] <vincenz> thank you :)
[11:40] <Healot> nerolinux if you prefer :0
[11:40] <Bonez> Healot: I installed that but it's uber crap compared to the windows version IMO
[11:41] <lupine_85> Bonez: considering how bad the Windows version is, that must mean it's really, really, really bad then!
[11:41] <Bonez> lupine_85: yup!
[11:41] <wor> Bonez: You are right but it does the job
[11:41] <Bonez> I prefer gnomebaker :)
[11:41] <jerb> yeah, nero is a coaster making machine
[11:41] <Bonez> lol
[11:41] <Bonez> anti-nero fan club
[11:41] <bXi> when will the new ubuntu arive?
[11:41] <Bonez> bXi: october
[11:42] <neenaoffline> How do I remove OO.o ? I'm on xubuntu .... doing " sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-core" asks me to download some packages ...
[11:42] <Healot> i just give option, damn you talked too much :
[11:42] <bXi> Bonez: any site on which i can follow progress?
[11:42] <vincenz> hmm
[11:42] <Bonez> bXi: you can start with #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <Bonez> bXi: i'm sure they have some links etc to keep you updated
[11:43] <bXi> they will ship free cd's for this right?
[11:43] <xNinja> wich is the runlevel in ubuntu 6.06 to run in dos only no x ??
[11:43] <xNinja> i tried 3 and still not working!
[11:43] <warfy> alright maybe i could get something else to work instead: my wireless PCMCIA card, its some generic brand and drivers seem to work in ubuntu but everytime I activate it, nothing happens
[11:43] <bXi> xNinja: dos?
[11:43] <ardchoille> dos?
[11:43] <xNinja> i mean command only without x window
[11:43] <xNinja> i dont want to auto start x
[11:43] <bXi> xNinja: thats normally called a terminal or a shell
[11:43] <xNinja> i know
[11:44] <Bonez> xNinja: sudo gedit /etc/iniitab and find out
[11:45] <xNinja> #ubuntu Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
[11:45] <tristan> Is there anyway to check in a GUI application what are the options of the kernel? I've seen a screenshot of something like qconf but there is no packet of this name...
[11:46] <bXi> tristan: if you have the kernel sources you can try cd /usr/src/linux && make xconfig
[11:46] <xNinja> in most linux distro`s runlevel 3 is the normal boot without x...but here wich level number is it!
[11:46] <ardchoille> xNinja: it's runlevel 3
[11:47] <xNinja> i did put it in 3 but also i see the kdm
[11:47] <ardchoille> xNinja: How? Which command are you using?
[11:47] <xNinja> # The default runlevel.
[11:47] <xNinja> id:3:initdefault:
[11:48] <Esters> Hello, there i'm having a problem : yesterday i did fdisk /dev/sda mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1 and it erased my entire fstab , that means my all partitions virtually doesn't exist but they are, so how can i restore my /etc/fstab ?
[11:48] <tristan> bXi, it says cd /usr/src/linux no such directory...
[11:49] <bXi> tristan: what does ls /usr/src/ tell you?
[11:50] <neilg> dammit keep ctrl+f4ing the wrong window
[11:50] <tristan> bXi, rpm is the only directory and there is no file
[11:50] <neilg> multiple monitors ftl
[11:54] <looktj> lawl neilg
[11:54] <xNinja> Esters try cat /etc/mtab
[11:55] <R0cK3T> is there a linux32 cmd for ubuntu?
[11:55] <R0cK3T> why might it not be working for me?
[11:55] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: command to do what?
[11:55] <Esters> xNinja: i'm from ubuntu Live-cd
[11:56] <vincenz> another stupid question, is one allowed to hot-swap cdrom/dvdrom bays?  I have a dell and I used my friend's dvdwriter, my dvd-driver is only ROM, I would like to return it to him, does this mean I have to reboot?
[11:56] <mkquist_> hey anyone know of a way to make a toolbar in gnome always stay on top of other apps?
[11:56] <xNinja> Esters did you tried what i said ?
[11:56] <vincenz> in windows there's a "eject hardware" thingy..
[11:56] <R0cK3T> ardchoille: linux32 ./linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[11:56] <Esters> xNinja: tried
[11:56] <xNinja> Esters cat /etc/fstab
[11:56] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: try: sh linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[11:57] <Esters> xNinja: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
[11:57] <Esters> unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[11:57] <Esters> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[11:57] <Esters> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:57] <R0cK3T> that doesn't work
[11:57] <xNinja> fdisk -l
[11:57] <R0cK3T> cause i get a glib-2.0 error
[11:57] <R0cK3T> or somethign like that
[11:57] <R0cK3T> cause im using the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[11:57] <Esters> xNinja: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[11:57] <Esters> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:58] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: Oh, may be a dependency that you have to satisfy before you can run that file
[11:58] <R0cK3T> i need to trick it into thinking its a 32 bit version
[11:58] <xNinja> :D
[11:58] <ardchoille> R0cK3T: oh, 64 bit? I don't know, then
[11:58] <Esters> xNinja:  ?
[11:58] <R0cK3T> i have all the 32 bit lib's
[11:58] <R0cK3T> but the 64 is backwards compatible with the x86
[11:58] <R0cK3T> like wtf
[11:59] <xNinja> thereis a command to auto check the partitions u have...not in my mind
[12:11] <Arafangion> R0cK3T: No, it's not backwards compatible like that.
[12:13] <brendonjt> hi there all,  can someone on the Ubuntu counity council  whoose going to be at the meeting please  Private meeage me
[12:13] <meal3837> !clamav
[12:14] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 200 kB
[12:14] <brendonjt> hi there all,  can someone on the Ubuntu counity council  whoose going to be at the meeting please  Private meeage me
[12:14] <meal3837> anyone know how to get clam av to scan my hard disk?
[12:14] <py_> how do I get the nvidi-glx version matching the one from the kernel modules?
[12:15] <meal3837> anyone? anyone at all?
[12:16] <hockyhair> im in trouble
[12:16] <meal3837> ?
[12:16] <pustota1> question: I have toshiba laptop and by what I can judge acpi is not implemented (enabled) in the default kernel delivered with 6.06. Is it possible to enable acpi for toshiba nad if yes how?
[12:16] <azathoth> where are mysal databases kept by default?
[12:16] <azathoth> *mysql
[12:16] <meal3837> how so? (not that I can help <== major noob)
[12:16] <hockyhair> i installed new ati drivers and now my grub/bios is centered and small and once ubuntu starts to load the screen goes white, if i make it to gdm im fine once xorg kicks in it goes to a normal size and the white disspears
[12:17] <R0cK3T> so anyone know whats up with that linux32 cmd?
[12:17] <hockyhair> problem is im not making it to gdm and i can't see the term because the display is off, there is no setting in bios.
[12:17] <meal3837> wow, that's not good
[12:18] <Arafangion> meal3837: Most linux users don't worry about av.
[12:18] <meal3837> btw, if anyone is wondering, automatix destroys easyubuntu
[12:18] <rugbythomas> why cant i use ctype with gcc
[12:18] <Arafangion> meal3837: We do not recommend automatix here.
[12:18] <meal3837> just because viruses aren't common in the linux community doesn't mean they don't exist
[12:19] <Arafangion> meal3837: Generally, people install av products on linux so that the other windows machines on the network, and recipients of emails, etc, don't get infected.
[12:19] <Arafangion> meal3837: Practically all viruses on linux are proof of concept only, anyway.
[12:19] <meal3837> yeah, i know, but i'm paranoid
[12:19] <meal3837> i know there have only been, wht, 40 wild linux viruses?
[12:20] <Arafangion> meal3837: Then go run OpenBSD
[12:20] <hockyhair> i'm tripping, i need some help getting the resolution right so i can see the term.. this sucks
[12:20] <ardchoille> meal3837: The way Linux is set up makes life for a virus quite difficult
[12:20] <ardchoille> meal3837: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/
[12:20] <meal3837> compared to thousands of new windows viruses a month
[12:20] <brendonjt> who here is on the CC
[12:20] <neilg> dammit >< i can't get ubuntu to boot on my dev box
[12:21] <OmegaNine> Anyone here know how to use csplit?  Reading the man/info left me say "WTF"
[12:21] <hockyhair> brb wish me luck
[12:21] <Arafangion> meal3837: The important issue if if the linux viruses actually achieves critical mass to even spread.
[12:21] <OmegaNine> GL!
[12:22] <brendonjt> any ubuntu members here
[12:22] <Macros42> got a wmp54g card but ubuntu is reporting a BCM4306 in the Device Manager - can that be changed?
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> anyone know how to format an hdd to hfs+ without journaling. more specificaly an ipod.
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> i got this
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> mkfs.hfsplus -v "iPod" /dev/sdXn
[12:24] <Fleebailey33> but it doesn't work
[12:25] <Fleebailey33> neither does mkfs hfsplus -v "iPod" /dev/sdXn
[12:25] <brendonjt> any ubuntu members here
[12:25] <Fleebailey33> i see 810
[12:25] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: I think the general solution is to plug it into a mac or win system respetivly - may have more luck that way.
[12:26] <Luck> I can't import(open) DV file to Kino. I'm trying to open a dv-avi when I do this I get a dialog saying: "This is not a DV file. Do you want to import it?" I AM able to import it, but I end.
[12:26] <Fleebailey33> the problem is then it get's journaled
[12:26] <Fleebailey33> and i had trouble disabling journaling
[12:26] <Fleebailey33> thanks though Arafangion
[12:27] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: I do know that whatever format it is depends on the first system it's plugged in, afaik
[12:27] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: But I've never owned one.
[12:27] <Fleebailey33> yes
[12:27] <z421> hello, i've a little problem with a "big" command, can anyone explain why it doesn't work? "apt-cache policy `apt-get install -s `cat apt-removed | cut -f 2 -d " "` | grep edgy | cut -d " " -f 2` >> test.log"
[12:27] <Fleebailey33> but the mac enables the journaling
[12:28] <redi> hello... how do i check what my ubuntu version is
[12:28] <Fleebailey33> linux doesn't like that
[12:28] <Fleebailey33> let me go try and format it now
[12:28] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: Try just using fat32
[12:28] <Arafangion> Fleebailey33: If you don't have any file larger than a few gig, you should be fine
[12:28] <neenaoffline> z421: try #bash
[12:28] <andyyy87> ubuntu doesn't have NTFS support? i can't mound my partitions
[12:29] <andyyy87> *mount
[12:29] <z421> neenaoffline: how? ah, you mean the channel?
[12:29] <Arafangion> andyyy87: It does have ntfs (read only) support.
[12:29] <Fleebailey33> what do you mean on the last statement?
[12:29] <neenaoffline> z421: yes :)
[12:29] <FirstStrike> !mount
[12:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:30] <crashd> andyyy87: you can also test fuse-ntfs
[12:30] <z421> neenaoffline: thanks, i'll try
[12:30] <crashd> check it out on the wiki
[12:30] <andyyy87> I can't mount them | ERROR: device dev/hda1 is not removable and ERROR: could not execute pmount
[12:30] <crashd> have you read the wiki bit about mounting?
[12:30] <brendonjt> crashd:  are you a ubuntu member???
[12:30] <andyyy87> no.. sorry
[12:31] <crashd> brendonjt: member?
[12:31] <brendonjt> crashd:  on the ubuntu comunity council
[12:31] <crashd> no
[12:32] <brendonjt> crashd:  do you know anyone on this channell that is
[12:32] <crashd> no
[12:32] <crashd> what's your point here? :)
[12:32] <qwertzu> Raid Question: Can somebody tell me where to configure the raids. /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf has no effect the raids are started by the kernel or someting else and it depends on partition
[12:32] <brendonjt> crashd:  as i need to talk to someone that is
[12:33] <crashd> brendonjt: oh :) i see, sorry dude, no idea
[12:33] <qwertzu> numbering. and i do some partition reanraging right now and therefore the raids "change" all the time md1 becomes md3 md6 gets a md2555 with dm-11 dm-13 as devises some raids are there twice with differen md numbers
[12:33] <midgetg0at> anyone care to enlighten me as to how i can add desktop panels to my 2nd monitor?
[12:33] <brendonjt> who here is on the CC
[12:33] <qwertzu> i just want to tell the system that the raid on hda5 and hdb5 should be /dev/md0 all the time
[12:34] <Terminus> qwertzu: i think the kernel autodetects the info in the raid partition. maybe you can change that with mdadm? i never tried configuring that manually though. i just used the installer.
[12:35] <qwertzu> Terminus:when i do configure with mdadm i get a Raid start faild during the boot screen but all is working fine during the boot
[12:35] <qwertzu> and during work but then i giot renamed raids again after the next harddisk partition change
[12:35] <qwertzu> it would be so niche if it would use mdadm
[12:36] <midgetg0at> no one knows how to add panels to a second display?
[12:36] <midgetg0at> how about "fast switching" between clone/span/extended desktop modes?
[12:36] <hockyhair> i fixed it :) thanks to all that wished me luck :)))
[12:37] <hockyhair> hey, i was just looking up ways to speed up ubuntu, cause after using vista rc1 ubuntu feels kinda slow.. anyway can anyone verfiy "fasterdapper"
[12:37] <Terminus> qwertzu: the details are bit hazy to me but i think there's a magic number on the partition which tells the kernel if it's part of a raid set.
[12:37] <qwertzu> yes the UUID numbers
[12:38] <Thunderpants> hockyhair, fasterdapper worked fine for me after i tweaked the code, check the script urself first
[12:38] <qwertzu> root@base:/etc# cat /proc/mdstat
[12:38] <qwertzu> Personalities : [raid1] 
[12:38] <qwertzu> md255 : active raid1 dm-8[0] 
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [U_] 
[12:38] <qwertzu> md9 : active raid1 dm-9[1] 
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [_U] 
[12:38] <qwertzu> md4 : active raid1 hdb9[1] 
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [_U] 
[12:38] <qwertzu> md3 : active raid1 hdb7[0] 
[12:38] <qwertzu>       97667072 blocks [2/1]  [U_] 
[12:38] <qwertzu> md2 : active raid1 hdb6[1] 
[12:38] <qwertzu>       20579136 blocks [2/1]  [_U] 
[12:38] <qwertzu> md1 : active raid1 hdb5[0] 
[12:38] <qwertzu>       12803648 blocks [2/1]  [U_] 
[12:38] <qwertzu> md0 : active raid1 hdb3[0] 
[12:38] <qwertzu>       192640 blocks [2/1]  [U_] 
[12:39] <qwertzu> mdadm --detail /dev/md255
[12:39] <Terminus> !paste
[12:39] <qwertzu> results in a
[12:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:39] <qwertzu> Terminus !paste ?
[12:39] <realist> qwertzu: Could you not flood the channel please.
[12:39] <qwertzu> sorry
[12:39] <midgetg0at> anyone know why when i max windows, the bottom goes below my desktop panel?
[12:40] <brendonjt> !comunity council
[12:40] <midgetg0at> hrm
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comunity council - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <midgetg0at> now that i set the height to 30, it's fine.
[12:41] <qwertzu> Terminus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22521
[12:42] <Terminus> qwertzu: are all the uuids the same?
[12:42] <qwertzu> Terminus: there you can see that i have two md devices which use the same harddisk partitions
[12:42] <Terminus> that's just one big array right?
[12:42] <qwertzu> not all
[12:43] <qwertzu> Terminus: at the moment the raid setup is in transition anyway (defect harddisk and now i'm doing some reoganizing with the new disk)
[12:44] <qwertzu> Terminus: i have 4 arrays (all mirror type) and the sizes are 200MB , 12GB, 12GB and 100GB
[12:44] <Madpilot> brendonjt, the CC's page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[12:45] <brendonjt> madpilot: yip i know that  are you on the community council
[12:46] <Madpilot> brendonjt, no
[12:46] <spiekey> hello
[12:46] <brendonjt> madpilot: oh ok
[12:47] <Terminus> qwertzu: AFAIK, you have to use mdadm and restore the proper values so that the kernel can detect it properly but that's beyond what i know. sorry.
[12:47] <Madpilot> brendonjt, do you have a question about the CC, or?
[12:47] <Terminus> qwertzu: you could try to query them all and see where they differ and stuff.
[12:47] <spiekey> how can i disable that update tray icon next to the clock?
[12:48] <simpla> Hi everyone
[12:48] <brendonjt> madpilot: nope just needed to talk to a member whoose going to the meeting that all
[12:48] <Terminus> qwertzu: mdadm --query --detail /dev/md0 should give you lots of details. there's also mdadm --query --examine /dev/hdb1
[12:48] <simpla> Am I allowed to ask a question here?
[12:48] <qwertzu> Terminus: i get the feeling that we have a misunderstanding. my arras are working fine but i hate it that i don't know why. because they are even working fine with mdadm autostart turned of
[12:49] <Madpilot> brendonjt, the CC is only 4 people. There are a number of Ubuntu Members, though - different thing from the CC itself
[12:49] <Luck>  I can't import(open) DV file to Kino. I'm trying to open a dv-avi when I do this I get a dialog saying: "This is not a DV file. Do you want to import it?" I AM able to import it, but I end.
[12:49] <qwertzu> Terminus: i updated t
[12:49] <qwertzu> Terminus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22522
[12:50] <brendonjt> madpilot: oh ok  true
[12:50] <longwave> simpla: yes, just ask your question :)
[12:50] <Madpilot> brendonjt, please join #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't really a tech support question, and -offtopic is quiet right now
[12:50] <qwertzu> Terminus: but as you said i fear that what i seek is bejond what you know. we seem to have the same kind of "enduser" knowledge about raid
[12:51] <simpla> cool thanks.  I read through the wiki on changing the usplash.  I have changed the splash to one I downloaded, but it still has the brown background.  Is there a text file to edit to change the colour value?  Or do I have to redo the splash I downloaded following the steps outlined on the wiki?
[12:51] <Terminus> qwertzu: yeah... i didn't experiment with my raid once i got it working.
[12:52] <qwertzu> Terminus: thanx for trying!
[12:52] <brendonjt> madpilot: yip i have it sorted now thank you
[12:52] <Glombool> !phpgroupware
[12:52] <ubotu> phpgroupware: web based groupware system written in PHP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.16.010-1 (dapper), package size 157 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[12:53] <Terminus> qwertzu: well, you just want to be able to specify which devices go to md0, md1, etc. right? there should be something in mdadm that lets you do that, maybe reassemble the array or something.
[12:55] <Terminus> qwertzu: coz the md, devices, etc are listed in mdadm.conf and there's an option for assemble that takes that config file. maybe that's what you want. i'm really scared about touching that kind of stuff because of possible loss of data though.
[12:56] <Over_There> does anyone know how to rename entire directorys of files?
[12:56] <Terminus> Over_There: mv foo/ bar/ ?
[12:57] <Over_There> but to keep the existing file names just change the extiations
[12:57] <Over_There> on about 200 files
[12:57] <Terminus> oh...
[12:57] <OmegaNine> Ummm mv *.plop *.mer ?
[12:58] <Terminus> sounds like it needs some bash foo. or maybe awk.
[12:58] <neilg> awk rawks
[12:59] <simpla> could someone point me in the right direction then to change just the bg colour of brown in the splash?
[01:00] <longwave> Over_There: rename 's/\.foo$/.bar/' *.foo will rename *.foo to *.bar
[01:00] <Over_There> thanks
[01:00] <Terminus> whoa! there's a rename command? cool!
[01:00] <longwave> yep, rename, takes a regular expression to do the renaming and a set of filenames to rename :)
[01:01] <Terminus> but it requires perl right? is perl installed by default?
[01:01] <longwave> oh yeah it is perl i forgot about that
[01:01] <longwave> still, most systems have or need perl at some point ;)
[01:01] <Terminus> yeah... perl rocks! :)
[01:02] <Nameeater> longwave: are you mising the 2nd \ before the . of bar?
[01:02] <longwave> no, you don't need the \ in the replacement expression, i believe
[01:02] <ketsugi> I don't think any Linux distros come without Perl these days
[01:02] <Nameeater> whats the first one for then? o.O
[01:03] <longwave> "." in the matching part means "any character" so you need the \ to escape it
[01:03] <longwave> in the replacement part "." just means "."
[01:03] <Nameeater> oh, I see what you mean, my bad :(
[01:03] <Nameeater> :(/:)
[01:03] <ccherrett> anyone know where to get open office help? I am trying to start my page numbering at 22 instead of 1. I have a large document that I need to split into sections
[01:03] <ccherrett> but maintain the numbering as a whole
[01:03] <neilg> ccherrett: use 'split' :P
[01:04] <ccherrett> neilg: ?
[01:04] <neilg>  split - split a file into pieces
[01:04] <longwave> that's not really helpful for OO.o docments, neilg
[01:04] <neilg> heh
[01:05] <_mason> Gday, just a quicky, What is the remote desktop port i will need to open/forward to allow people to view my pc?
[01:05] <Nameeater> you could wack ctrl + enter for a new page
[01:05] <ccherrett> Nameeater: me
[01:06] <Nameeater> or even better, insert/manual break/page break/style default, page 22
[01:06] <Nameeater> oh and tick the change page number box
[01:07] <ccherrett> Nameeater: are you saying to insert page breaks till the doc is up to page 22?
[01:07] <Nameeater> you could do that, or the second method makes it page 1 then jumps straight to page 22
[01:07] <Hyakutaro> is it possible to have a transparent background in X-Chat?
[01:08] <Nameeater> I'm not 100% sure what your trying to achieve but randomly guessing might do what you want :)
[01:08] <ccherrett> Nameeater: do you know how to trick the page number box?
[01:08] <kingdong> i don't think x-chat will do transparency
[01:08] <longwave> ccherrett: is there nothing in the document options for "start page numbering at ..." or something?
[01:08] <kingdong> oh wait, yes it ill
[01:08] <ozzloy> i installed apache and apache2 at the same time.  now i've removed apache, but it still shows up in the shutdown sequence.  how do i remove it?
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[01:09] <ccherrett> I have a document that is too large to handle as one doc. I need to split it up to make it possible to deal with
[01:09] <Hyakutaro> ah wait
[01:09] <Hyakutaro> found it
[01:09] <Hyakutaro> done :)
[01:09] <realist> ozzloy: apt-get purge <package>
[01:09] <ccherrett> longwave: not that I could find
[01:09] <kingdong> haha, well, the setting is there but it doesn't seem to be working for me
[01:10] <ozzloy> realist: "E: Invalid operation purge"
[01:10] <longwave> ozzloy: did you remove "apache-common" as well as just "apache"?
[01:10] <ozzloy> longwave: doing so now.
[01:10] <ozzloy> realist: thanx anyway though
[01:11] <ozzloy> is there a way i can test whether it will show in the shutdown sequence without rebooting?
[01:11] <ozzloy> longwave: that may have done it
[01:12] <realist> ozzloy: sorry, apt-get --purge
[01:12] <longwave> ozzloy: look in /etc/rc6.d and make sure there is no "KXXapache" file where XX is any number
[01:12] <Nameeater> ccherrett: http://www.taming-openoffice-org.com/writer/wpagegt1.htm
[01:12] <hwt> hi. is it possible to use the "computer menu" from SLED10 on ubuntu?
[01:13] <R0cK3T> i just installed teamspeak on ubuntu
[01:13] <R0cK3T> i don't have a mic hooked up
[01:13] <fiveiron> hrmrmr... I added "exec" to my fstab line for this hdd, but i still can't execute code on it... is there something different i need to put there?
[01:14] <R0cK3T> but i should be able to hear someone else right?
[01:14] <R0cK3T> well i can see em
[01:14] <R0cK3T> i can see the green light when they talk
[01:14] <ozzloy> realist: sudo apt-get --purge give the help for the command
[01:14] <R0cK3T> but no sound
[01:14] <Terminus> R0cK3T: yep, you should be able to hear them.
[01:14] <longwave> fiveiron: what filesystem? presumably the file you are executing has +x permissions and/or the umask is set correctly in /etc/fstab?
[01:14] <R0cK3T> i made sure i had the right sound devices
[01:14] <ozzloy> longwave: there is k91apache and k91apache2
[01:14] <R0cK3T> and were using the same codec
[01:15] <Terminus> R0cK3T: but you can hear other audio? like mp3s and stuff?
[01:15] <ozzloy> longwave: can i just rm those?
[01:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> So. Steve Irwin Died.
[01:15] <longwave> ozzloy: hrm, K91apache is responsible for stopping apache at shutdown
[01:15] <R0cK3T> i think so
[01:15] <realist> ozzloy: you'll need to refer to the man page for _exact_ usage
[01:15] <R0cK3T> never tried that yet
[01:15] <R0cK3T> one sec
[01:15] <thegve> I don't think so
[01:15] <ozzloy> realist: ok
[01:15] <longwave> ozzloy: just leave them there, in fact
[01:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> The crocodile hunter guy.
[01:15] <fiveiron> longwave, here is my fstab line for this fs:  /dev/hdb1       /mnt/data       ext3    defaults,exec,user      0       1
[01:15] <longwave> ozzloy: if apache doesn't exist the K91apache script will do nothing so it's safe
[01:15] <ccherrett> Nameeater: thanks that worked!
[01:16] <Nameeater> ccherrett: awsome :)
[01:16] <R0cK3T> no i can't listen to mp3's
[01:16] <R0cK3T> i must need to install a codec pack
[01:16] <ccherrett> thanks so much
[01:16] <longwave> fiveiron: "user" implies "noexec" even if you specify "exec" i believe
[01:16] <thegve> How can I set the amount of questions apt will ask. I need to install slapd 'unattended' (in a script), but it asks for an admin password.
[01:16] <longwave> fiveiron: is there any reason you aren't just automouting this if it's hard disk partition?
[01:17] <ozzloy> longwave: i figured it was safe, but still not completely correct
[01:17] <R0cK3T> can i install the codecs with the package manager?
[01:17] <longwave> ozzloy: it doesn't really matter if there are a few orphan scripts left to run at shutdown, they won't do any harm
[01:17] <R0cK3T> ahhhhhhhh
[01:17] <Terminus> R0cK3T: you could try installing those listed in the restricted formats section of the wiki.
[01:17] <Terminus> !restrictedformats > R0cK3T
[01:18] <ozzloy> longwave: ok cool, thanks!
[01:18] <thegve> R0cK3T: Yep, but you need to add some extra repo's first.. *what the others say*
[01:18] <fiveiron> longwave, i am automounting it....
[01:19] <longwave> fiveiron: so why do you need the "user" option?
[01:19] <fiveiron> what do you mean?
[01:19] <R0cK3T> i have no idea what restricted formats of what wiki?
[01:19] <Kwong> hello, i got problem with network-manager-gnome. It doesnt seem to work with my computer. Driver was dectected but seem that the wireless doesnt work
[01:19] <fiveiron> oh... uh... not sure... one sec
[01:19] <longwave> fiveiron: "user" allows you to mount that partition without sudo but won't allow "exec"
[01:19] <Terminus> R0cK3T: ubotu should have messaged you with the details earlier.
[01:19] <R0cK3T> add extra repo's?
[01:19] <thegve> R0cK3T: Euhm, ubuntu wiki maybe?
[01:19] <thegve> (duh)
[01:19] <fiveiron> longwave, ah, well that would be the problem then.. :-P
[01:19] <_mason> !tell _mason about remotedesktop
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <longwave> fiveiron: well, try without "user" and see if that helps. you shouldn't even need "exec", i think it defaults to on anyway - just "defaults" should be okay for an ext3 partition
[01:20] <thegve> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:20] <thegve> R0cK3T: That was for you... (the last link)
[01:21] <fiveiron> brb
[01:21] <J_P> morning all
[01:23] <thegve> R0cK3T: But you should probably simply install easyubuntu, all done in a few moments (java, flash, w32codecs etc)
[01:23] <glick> yay programming python 3rd edition is out
[01:23] <glick> i might have to buy it
[01:23] <hwt> hi. is it possible to use the "computer menu" from SLED10 on ubuntu?
[01:23] <thegve> glick: Got a link to a review?
[01:24] <glick> thegve, nah just on amazon.com, but alot of the reviews there are for previous editions which somehow count for the rating for this edition
[01:26] <Geev8> i need u'r assistance to recover lost icons disappeared from desktop am using ubuntu help me please
[01:27] <kingdong> what icons were lost Geev8 ?
[01:28] <Geev8> i means all my folder that i stored on desktop cannot be seen
[01:29] <Nameeater> have you looked in the trash folder? (click the trash button bottom right)
[01:30] <kingdong> did you try to do a search for the folder that are gone?
[01:31] <Geev8> nameeater: they are not deleted but all files and folder from my desktop are not seen it looks like some thing has channge
[01:34] <Geev8> nameeater: kingdong: when i login to this computer through remote taminal i can see and access those files/folder
[01:35] <mtholdenss> umm can amarok play cds? if so how? im getting sick of sound juicer playing my cds
[01:36] <Nameeater> Geev8: thats very wierd
[01:36] <Nameeater> if you open Places/Home then click on Desktop are they in there?
[01:38] <Geev8> nameeater: how can i navigate to that folder because there is no folder on my desktop i can open
[01:38] <Nameeater> Places is a menu up the top
[01:38] <Nameeater> between Applications and System
[01:39] <Geev8> nameeater: ok i found that menu let me check it
[01:40] <Geev8> nameeater: it does not open any thing
[01:40] <Nameeater> :| sounds very very strange, I am not sure how to help you, some one else may know
[01:41] <ozzloy> exit
[01:41] <ozzloy> err... wrong window
[01:42] <kingdong> sounds like your gnome install is borked, bad configuration file maybe
[01:42] <shuveb> hi, is it possible to install 64 bit ubuntu on Intel chips that support EM64T?
[01:43] <shuveb> or is it only meant for AMD64 chips?
[01:43] <Geev8> kingdom: how can i unbrok it
[01:44] <traveller> Geev8: have you been playing around with System Tools > Configuration Editor ?
[01:45] <Dimensions> Hi guys .... how can i use or install Visual basic in ubuntu ?
[01:45] <mtholdenss> amarok is awesome except it cant play cds only sound juicer
[01:45] <mtholdenss> dimensions try wine
[01:46] <Geev8> traveller: we are about three people we are using this computer my be one of us did it but my friend are not interested in configurations only surfing
[01:46] <Dimensions> i have wine installed but what does it do and if i have a VB project can i use it here ?
[01:47] <traveller> Geev8: i was thinking the icons might have been disabled, but if that's the case it should not even show up when connecting remotely
[01:47] <Arafangion> Dimensions: What version of VB?
[01:48] <Dimensions> Arafangion: VB 6
[01:48] <Geev8> traveller: can you instruct me to check if icons are disabled or not
[01:48] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Then it might be able to.
[01:48] <Arafangion> Dimensions: If it was VB.NET, then you should give Mono a go.
[01:49] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Personally, I run windows inside of qemu
[01:50] <looktj> sudo: dist-upgrade: command not found
[01:50] <traveller> Geev8: go to Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor, then click to expand "apps", look for "nautilus", expand it and click on "preferences", scroll down at the panel on the right and find "show_desktop"
[01:50] <looktj> help please
[01:50] <traveller> Geev8: it should have a tick
[01:51] <Nameeater> looktj: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and are you sure you want to be doing that?
[01:51] <looktj> oh right lawl forgot aptitude
[01:51] <kzm__> I accidentally started gconfd.  And it messed up everything, changed all the fonts etc.  Is there any way to undo the damage?
[01:51] <kingdong> hm i don't think so =(
[01:52] <looktj> thanks nameeater btw
[01:52] <Nameeater> not a problem
[01:52] <Geev8> traveller: show_desktop is ticked
[01:52] <kzm__> Anyway - what I really was trying to achieve was to adjust mouse sensitivity.  I need to be able to work with a little bit more precision.  But apparently, one is only able to set accel and threshold (as in 'xset m')?
[01:53] <kzm__> Currently, movement is way too jerky to be useful for small on-screen movements.
[01:53] <traveller> Geev8: hm...that beats me then, i don't know what the problem is, sorry mate
[01:54] <myUserName> Can someone help me setup AIGLX
[01:54] <Geev8> traveller: thanks for your help but if there is any one else help me
[01:55] <looktj> Geev8: what is your problem?
[01:55] <myUserName> ii have aiglx in my system tray but when i click enable it flickers and tturns the option off i have modified my xorg.conf and installed everything any ideas?
[01:55] <kingdong> his gnome is all messed up, no deskop and won't open windows
[01:55] <traveller> kzm__: there is a way to totally reset your Gnome settings, you could remove all files and directories under ~/.gnome*
[01:55] <Geev8> looktj: all my desktop icons disappeared
[01:55] <traveller> kzm__: oh and then you just log out and log back in
[01:55] <gnomefreak> myUserName: aigxl questions are best asked in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:56] <Alpha[] > myUserName: you need open source drivers onyou grafix card
[01:56] <myUserName> ok
[01:56] <kzm__> traveller, hmm... if I remove .gnome/ and then accidentally start gconfd, will it do nothing?
[01:56] <looktj> sorry, can't help with that :( Geev8
[01:56] <kzm__> (I like to use the occasional gnome app, but don't like all the extra baggage)
[01:57] <traveller> kzm__: hm...that i don't know
[01:57] <kzm__> Guess there's only one way to find out.
[01:57] <mtholdenss> hey whats this DAAP Client
[01:57] <kzm__> Anyway, I can chmod 0 the whole gconfd thing...
[01:57] <kingdong> what for itunes
[01:57] <LookTJ> ^^^:S
[01:57] <Geev8> looktj: but when i login to it through remote terminal i can see and access them but how to return them to apper on my desktop
[01:58] <surreal> what's the proper fs enty for a dvdrw in fstab?
[01:58] <surreal> entry rather
[01:59] <gfxstyler_> hi
[01:59] <myUserName> I tried #aiglx the channel seems dead. If anyone could help me out i am using an intel video card with aiglx and i installed everything fine i have the icon in my menu bar but when i click it and hit enable the screen flickers then if i close hte window and reopen it its not enabled
[01:59] <gfxstyler_> can i save all currently running apps into a kind of session?
[02:00] <gfxstyler_> i want to start the same applications at the same window position with the same commands on every startup
[02:00] <Nameeater> System/Preferences/Sessions
[02:00] <dalfz> any tool that can rip illustrations/graphics off a pdf?
[02:00] <Nameeater> but whether it will do that, probably not
[02:00] <LookTJ> hmm
[02:00] <akim> what is the name of answering  robot?
[02:00] <Nameeater> ubotu ?
[02:00] <gfxstyler_> nameeather: but this doesnt save window positions, virtual desktops and it doesnt store the current commands in the gnome-terminal, right?
[02:00] <Nameeater> no
[02:01] <LookTJ> akin: ubotu
[02:01] <ardchoille> gfxstyler_: The saving of individual window positions would be up the the individual apps
[02:01] <akim> thanks
[02:01] <Nameeater> but you could have a commandline setup that does, tho it may only do one command, look at man gnome-terminal :)
[02:01] <Nameeater> it apparently does geometry
[02:01] <akim> ubotu, how to install xgl
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how to install xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <Nameeater> !xgl > akim
[02:02] <LookTJ> !xgl
[02:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:02] <ardchoille> akim: type !xgl
[02:02] <akim> oh thanks
[02:02] <akim> :)
[02:02] <Nameeater> or even better, query the bot and message it with the tag ;)
[02:02] <gfxstyler_> nameeather: the thing is, i just have gnome-terminals running because many of my apps are commandline based
[02:02] <Alpha[] > !xgl
[02:02] <LookTJ> Geev8: did you get my pm?
[02:02] <kingdong> does xgl work well with kubuntu or should i give it up
[02:02] <gfxstyler_> nameeather: and i run the terminal commands on each startup and i have to re-position the windows everytime
[02:02] <mtholdenss> y wont amarok upgrade from 1.3.9 to 1.4.2?
[02:02] <gfxstyler_> which is annoying :D
[02:03] <akim> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:03] <gfxstyler_> mtholdenss: you have to add the repository to it
[02:03] <edulix> hello !
[02:03] <gfxstyler_> http://www.kubuntu.org @ mtholdenss
[02:03] <edulix> hey which package contains the ruby shell (irb) ?
[02:03] <mtholdenss> gfxstyler what u mean?>
[02:03] <edulix> I have ruby 1.8 installed but irb command is not found
[02:03] <gfxstyler_> apt-cache search irb   < maybe that finds it
[02:03] <ardchoille> gfxstyler_: or you could jst stay logged in
[02:03] <Nameeater> gfxstyler_: well gnome has --geometry which sets its position according to X's geometry rules,  and -x/-e tags, for executing things, you could have all that in a shell script and run that on start up
[02:04] <edulix> gfxstyler_: uhm :P
[02:04] <gfxstyler_> ardchoille: i have a laptop and i dont want to run it all the time ... last time i did that my ac adapter got killed on a power outtage
[02:04] <edulix> thanks!
[02:04] <ardchoille> gfxstyler_: Ah, good point
[02:05] <gfxstyler_> ardchoille: i learned my lesson and unplug the ac adaptor when the laptop is turned off
[02:05] <mtholdenss> what repostitory do i add gfxstyler?
[02:05] <Dimensions> Arafangion: infact i have a script we run in ubuntu machines i want to make interface for it so one can click the command button only to initiate the script or stop it ... etc ...i thought i would use VB as i have done programming in it ... any other idea ? how can i implement it ?
[02:05] <ardchoille> !info gfxstyler
[02:05] <ubotu> Package gfxstyler does not exist in any distro I know
[02:05] <gfxstyler_> mtholdenss: on that kubuntu site there is a news entry on the new amarok, they also point out which repository to add
[02:05] <ardchoille> mtholdenss: aparently, it isn't in the repos
[02:05] <kzm> Hmf.  Perhaps it wasn't gconfd after all?
[02:05] <gfxstyler_> but 1.4.1 is, no?
[02:06] <mtholdenss> oh, cause i neet to upgrade to play cds :p its 1.4.2 the latest
[02:06] <Nameeater> Dimensions: write a shell script then put icons on the desktop/panel :p
[02:06] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Ahh, so you have the source code?
[02:06] <dj_baggio> !fvwm-crystal
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fvwm-crystal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <dj_baggio> !fvwm
[02:07] <ubotu> fvwm: F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.14-6 (dapper), package size 2913 kB, installed size 6448 kB
[02:08] <Crazed> hi
[02:08] <Crazed> I got a little problem ..
[02:08] <Arafangion> Crazed: Evidently.
[02:09] <Crazed> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[02:09] <Crazed> this tells me my AGP is disabled
[02:09] <Crazed> but I am using the nvidia driver ?
[02:09] <Crazed> how come ?
[02:09] <Guard] [an> hello
[02:09] <gfxstyler_> hi
[02:10] <Crazed> [17522302.808000]  NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded!
[02:10] <Crazed> thats what I get with dmesg
[02:10] <Crazed> Arafangion: any clue ? :p
[02:10] <mtholdenss> appearntly it wont work on ubuntu2
[02:10] <gfxstyler_> crazed: i think you load agpgart but the nvidia driver wants nvagp
[02:10] <mtholdenss> amarok 1.4.2
[02:11] <Crazed> erm
[02:11] <Crazed> it should be working with agpgart ..
[02:11] <Guard] [an> would you install ubuntu server or desktop on an old P3 box ? i want to install apache2+php+mysql on it but i wonder if it would be a good idea to keep a desktop installed.
[02:11] <Arafangion> Guard] [an: Aren't the two the one and the same?
[02:11] <gfxstyler_> Crazed: the dmesg complains about the agp thingy, so its worth a try
[02:11] <Crazed> well I need agpgart
[02:11] <Crazed> not that crappy nvagp
[02:11] <kingdong> guard[] an depends how comfortable you are with the command line
[02:11] <Guard] [an> Arafangion: afaik no, the server install does not install you gnome nor kde.
[02:12] <Arafangion> Guard] [an: A server doesn't need a desktop installed.
[02:12] <Guard] [an> kingdong: i'm confortable with command line
[02:12] <kingdong> if all you are going to use it as is a LAMP stack then skip the desktop, it will be a lot easier
[02:12] <gfxstyler_> Guard] [an: first off, those braces are really a hassle :P yeah, but why no server install? should be fast enough
[02:12] <kingdong> well not a lot but you know.
[02:12] <Warbo> Hi, I get my Yahoo mail dumped into an mbox file and I access it with Evolution. Would I be giving away sensitive information if I sent that mbox file to someone (I want them to see subjects, times, senders, content, etc. but not my passwords and stuff)?
[02:12] <Guardian> well
[02:13] <Guardian> for instance, i'm guessing
[02:13] <gfxstyler_> woo, thanks Guardian :) typing is much easier now
[02:13] <Guardian> if i want to install amule, i guess having gnome installed + export display would be better
[02:13] <Guardian> than using the remote gui stuff that does not work very well
[02:13] <kingdong> warbo: maybe it would be better to export the relevant mails as text or something
[02:13] <gfxstyler_> is there no amule cli client?
[02:13] <Warbo> Guardian: MLDonkey works well remotely
[02:13] <NthDegree> Warbo, I believe the passwords to accounts are stored in ,dat files in a hashed MD5 format
[02:13] <Guardian> warbo: did not try this one yet
[02:14] <Warbo> NthDegree: I use fetchyahoo to get the emails, so the passwords for Yahoo are in fetchyahoo config files, I am just wondering if there is anything else sensitive that might be in the mbox file?
[02:14] <gfxstyler_> Guardian: yes there is, you can use amule without gui
[02:15] <Guardian> gfxstyler_: i tried it, but it's rather experimental
[02:15] <gfxstyler_> Guardian: on gentoo, you can compile with -gtk and +amuled, which i think is just CLI + a daemon for running it
[02:15] <Warbo> Guardian: If you want to use MLDonkey then get it from their site (I htink mldonkey.org) 'cos Ubuntu's package is old and badly made
[02:15] <gfxstyler_> oh, sorry i didnt read your above message
[02:15] <NthDegree> Warbo, besides information relation to your operating system and the software usually most sensitive info is kept in separate files
[02:15] <Warbo> NthDegree: OK thanks
[02:15] <Guardian> warbo: ok thx for the info
[02:15] <Wild-Wolf> hi
[02:16] <Guardian> i meed, it's rather a phylosophical discussion
[02:16] <moggio_> has anyone here tried swiftfox?
[02:16] <Guardian> i guess most of what i want will be available from command line
[02:16] <NthDegree> Warbo, it may be a case of copy & paste e-mails into open-office or importing into thunderbird for extra safety
[02:16] <Guardian> but still export display is also nice to have
[02:16] <NthDegree> then you can ensure security
[02:16] <Dimensions> Arafangion: source code to script yes i do
[02:16] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Is porting it to VB.NET an option?
[02:16] <Warbo> NthDegree: I suppose, just that I want to alert my University that they have sent out emails with every student's email address in the header, and that is a lot to copy
[02:17] <Arafangion> Dimensions: That way, mono should be able to run it.
[02:18] <j0lliyo> anyone else have a problem with a wireless with ndiswrapper works for a few mins then just stops transmitting?
[02:18] <mistform> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:18] <mistform>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gedit_2.14.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:18] <mistform> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:18] <Dimensions> Nameeater: well i am not much into shell scripting i mean i donno how to design stuff in it like command button
[02:19] <Arafangion> Dimensions: I'm not sure how good the mono vb compiler is, so you may be better off using the VB.NET compiler, and making sure that the options to NOT emit machine code is set. (The Microsoft compiler doesn't always produce clean .NET applications - you have to tell it to do so)
[02:19] <mistform> I cannot use apt-get install anymore
[02:19] <mistform> because linux crashed about 3 hrs ago and I was forced to reformat because of a buffer I/O error
[02:19] <Arafangion> mistform: Just the one?
[02:19] <Dimensions> ahhan ...
[02:19] <myUserName> does anyone know any ways to make laptop battery life last longer with ubuntu as my laptop battery runs twice as long using windows
[02:19] <Dimensions> gotch it ..
[02:20] <Dimensions> thanks Arafangion ... and Nameeater
[02:20] <mistform> I had the errors on every single sector until it decided to quit and restart
[02:20] <mistform> it kept forcing checks because of the filesystem
[02:20] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: sure, what cpu and gfx card do you have?
[02:20] <Arafangion> Dimensions: If you don't want to port it, as it's a compiled aplpication, you may have good luck with wine.
[02:20] <Arafangion> Dimensions: But in the long run, porting it is highly recommended.
[02:20] <lupine_85> don't suppose anyone can give me a few hints on how to get falcon working, can they? I'm finding the manpages to be a bit inadequate :(
[02:21] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, intel, everything is intel 14" monitor intel dx8 vid card  1.7ghz
[02:21] <argiopeweb> I'm working on installing Ubuntu on PPC.  What processor does the current version run on?
[02:21] <argiopeweb> I can't find it anywhere.
[02:21] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: you need to load the appropiate modules for your cpu (i mean, for powersaving that is)
[02:21] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: like cpufreq_userspace, cpufreq_ondemand, p4-clockmod
[02:22] <myUserName> how do i find out that? just search synaptic for intel?
[02:22] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: you have to know what type of intel cpu you have ... a mobile one, a desktop one, a centrino, a core duo
[02:22] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: There are versions for the PPC, as well as Intel.
[02:22] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, its a centrino
[02:23] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: and then you have to load the module for that, like p4-clockmod is for normal desktop cpus
[02:23] <argiopeweb> Arafangion: I'm fully aware of that.  I'm just wondering if you can run DD on a G3.
[02:23] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: DD?
[02:23] <argiopeweb> 6.06.
[02:23] <argiopeweb> Dapper Drake.
[02:23] <myUserName> explaining where to go to get info to do that would be a start because i have no idea how to load the module u refer to
[02:23] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: i dont know how the speedstepping module is called, does "locate *speedstep.ko" or "locate *speedstepping.ko" return something?
[02:23] <Crazed> arg
[02:23] <Crazed> fucked up .. :P
[02:23] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: On a G3?
[02:24] <argiopeweb> Right.
[02:24] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: I have a friend running a G3, he reports good success with xubuntu, because it's faster.
[02:24] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: centrinos use speedstepping to scale down their cpu speed, which saves power (and they lower voltage)
[02:24] <myUserName> locate has no results
[02:24] <Arafangion> argiopeweb: But I'm not sure how good the drivers are.
[02:24] <Dimensions> ahh..... one more question abt VB Arafangion.... can we actually install VB in ubuntu ? or we will have to install it on MS OS and use it ?
[02:24] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: damn
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: you load modules like: sudo modprobe modulename
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: and you unload them like: sudo rmmod modulename
[02:25] <Arafangion> Dimensions: Just checked the mono website (www.go-mono.net), apparently the old version of the VB compiler is officially abandoned, and they're working on a new VB compiler, but it's not released yet.
[02:25] <argiopeweb> Arafangion: That was my problem.   I'm certain that Ubuntu works with my wireless card, but I don't know about Xubuntu.
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: and you can automate that process on every startup at /etc/modules
[02:25] <myUserName> gfxstyler_,  oh so sudo modprobe *centrinocraphere*
[02:25] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: yes
[02:25] <Arafangion> Dimensions: But, the main point is that it's all in a portable bytecode anyway, so as long as mono has the system.windows.forms that you use implemented, you should be set.
[02:25] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, and the centrino module should already be on the hdd?
[02:25] <Arafangion> Dimensions: That's the theory, anyway.
[02:26] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: so you can already do: sudo modprobe cpufreq_userspace   and: sudo modprobe cpufreq_ondemand
[02:26] <gfxstyler_> myUserName: yes, i think ubuntu comes with many modules, you just need to load them
[02:27] <myUserName> gfxstyler_, yeah ill look into it later now i know where to look. I need to reboot x to get aiglx working
[02:27] <myUserName> cya
[02:27] <gfxstyler_> see you
[02:27] <Typhon> hello
[02:28] <Dimensions> thanks Arafangion
[02:28] <Typhon> does anyone know the status of Ubuntu with Core 2 Duo and the JMicron PATA controller?
[02:28] <Arafangion> Typhon: Off the top of our heads? No, we don't have a clue.
[02:28] <Typhon> I did a search on the forums but I wasn't able to understand if people were getting it working :)
[02:29] <jpfarias> hi
[02:29] <Awesome-o2000> I am unable to get to the web - whats the "server" kernel for?
[02:29] <jpfarias> I need help with wpa in dapper
[02:29] <Typhon> Arafangion: sorry :) I was hoping someone here had experience with a Core 2 machine :P
[02:30] <jpfarias> anyone knows how to setup wpa with aes encryptation?
[02:31] <longwave> Typhon: it seems that controller is only supported in kernel 2.6.18
[02:31] <longwave> Typhon: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[02:31] <Typhon> longwave: thanks.... do you know how I could get/make a Dapper install CD with a 2.6.18 kernel?
[02:32] <trygg> Can someone help me with getting tv-out with aticonfig?
[02:33] <longwave> Typhon: sorry, that's a bit advanced for me, and it seems that it isn't fixed in edgy yet, either. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support has lots of forum links that may provide some clues, though
[02:34] <kingdong> can you install normally and then roll a new kernel from kernel.org in
[02:34] <kingdong> that's what i would do
[02:34] <Typhon> well the problem is
[02:34] <Typhon> the optical drive won't be detected
[02:34] <R0cK3T> flash player doesn't support the 64 bit distro of ubuntu
[02:35] <R0cK3T> but i have all the 32bit lib's
[02:35] <kingdong> any chance you can get another PATA PCI controller
[02:35] <kingdong> they only cost about $10
[02:36] <Typhon> kingdong: I'm not sure what you mean by that
[02:36] <atul> Hello! Can anyone here help me with audio please?
[02:37] <Typhon> nevermind... i see
[02:37] <kingdong> i thought your problem was the JMicron PATA controller wasn't supported and so you couldn't use the optical drive
[02:37] <Typhon> well the problem is a bug in the Linux kernel that has been fixed
[02:37] <kingdong> there are knockoff brand pci pata controllers for cheep cheep but they might be hard to find locally
[02:37] <Typhon> yeah I see what you mean now
[02:38] <kingdong> i'm not sure how you could stick a new kernel into an install cd, thats why i suggest this instead... it may well be easier
[02:38] <atul> My audio stopped working - probably after a dist-upgrade, can anyone help?
[02:39] <jolt> Heh im still trying to figure out how to get my second USB audio device detected by ALSA
[02:39] <jolt> Damn Logitech Camera grabbed the USB-Audio for itself
[02:39] <theBeno> My laptop has a problem booting, it prints "GRUB" to the screen then freezes.  Any ideas?
[02:40] <jolt> Framebuffer issue?
[02:40] <longwave> theBeno: was it working before, or is this a new install?
[02:40] <theBeno> longwave, A new insall.
[02:40] <longwave> theBeno: what hardware?
[02:41] <theBeno> It's a Toshiba Satelite.
[02:41] <longwave> theBeno: does http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3306.html help?
[02:41] <longwave> theBeno: in their case there is some recovery software or something installed on part of the drive, which conflicts with grub
[02:42] <longwave> theBeno: it may be similar on your toshiba
[02:42] <kingdong> probably you can disable the recovery partition from the bios to fix it
[02:42] <theBeno> kingdong, THANK YOU!
[02:43] <theBeno> I'll try that. longwave, Thanx.
[02:43] <Awesome-o2000> !server
[02:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:43] <kingdong> i had the same problem with my thinkpad
[02:43] <hendrik_v> I need the linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 but I can't find them in the default repositories. Anybody know how come?
[02:44] <hendrik_v> or where to find them?
[02:44] <longwave> !info linux-headers-386
[02:44] <ubotu> linux-headers-386: Linux kernel headers on 386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:44] <Guardian> re
[02:45] <Guardian> is there a tool that can be used to record an x session into a video file ???
[02:45] <erUSUL> !info linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[02:45] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386: Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 836 kB, installed size 22988 kB
[02:45] <hendrik_v> thanks ubotu
[02:46] <leeyee> Hello guys
[02:46] <leeyee> I encountered an error 17 when booting a dual-boot box
[02:47] <Healot> Guardian: there are screen capture application, but screen capture video output, none, iirc
[02:47] <Typhon> xvidcap.sourceforge.net
[02:47] <Typhon> --> screencaptures to mpeg video
[02:47] <atul> My audio stopped working - probably after a dist-upgrade, can anyone help?
[02:48] <leeyee> well, anyone can help me with this?
[02:48] <Guardian> cool thx Typhon
[02:48] <leeyee> I intalled it on a SCSI HD, /dev/sda8
[02:48] <atul> everything seems to work but there is no sound!!
[02:48] <leeyee> while sda1 is for WinXP
[02:49] <jolt> no sound.. you can try to change the device in ALSA, esp effective if you have a quickcam connected...
[02:49] <atul> how do I change the device in alsa?
[02:49] <jolt> System | Preferences| Sound in X
[02:49] <mojo> hi every1
[02:49] <mojo> i got a question
[02:50] <mojo> it's about Edgy though
[02:50] <jolt> And set the Default sound Card
[02:50] <mojo> my apt-get refuse to update
[02:50] <leeyee> ? Nobody noticed my post?
[02:50] <sda> nope
[02:50] <jolt> edgy... Double mounting the hard disk, udev errors, thats my day
[02:50] <Warbo> Xvidcap probably works best for screen capture, Istanbul is good but it doesn't work for me. PyVNC2SWF works well as well, but that makes an SWF file which I cannot convert to MPEG (the bundled tools say it isn't supported, even though the manual says it is)
[02:51] <Typhon> leeyee: error 17 seems to be inability to mount a partition... I don't know any more than that
[02:51] <jolt> if the soundcard doesnt appear in the default dropdown its another issue, but that has helped me a few times when doing a dist upgrade
[02:51] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[02:52] <leeyee> Well, I know from the menu.lst  that linux should boot from /dev/sda8, and I DID install it on /dev/sda8
[02:52] <atul> jolt - I'm running kubuntu here, can I do this from the console
[02:52] <leeyee> However, I saw that linux is on /dev/sda6 when I did "fdisk -l" during a live-cd boot
[02:52] <Warbo> leeyee: You know that GRUb would call that "hd(X,7)" (where X would be 0 if it is the first drive) right?
[02:53] <atul> I cann't get sound even with aplay
[02:53] <leeyee> I think it should be (sd0,7)?
[02:53] <leeyee> or sd(0,7)?
[02:53] <mojo> has any1 got into apt-get rejection update after updating from dapper to edgy?
[02:53] <Warbo> alsaconf was really useful. Is there a particular reson they got rid of it?
[02:53] <Warbo> (hd0,7) probably
[02:53] <atul> alsamixer shows no problem (and nothing is muted)
[02:54] <Warbo> GRUB doesn't care about SCSI, SATA, USB, etc. They are all HDs or CDs (I think FD might be floppy as well)
[02:54] <LookTJ> anyone help with my problem
[02:54] <Warbo> LookTJ: I don't know yet
[02:54] <leeyee> My HD is a scsi one, Warbo
[02:54] <Healot> it's always hd :0
[02:54] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel? I beg for help
[02:54] <LookTJ> I want to use VoIPbuster in linux
[02:55] <LookTJ> but its in .exe
[02:55] <Warbo> leeyee: If the BIOS sees it then GRUB will call it (hd<something>)
[02:55] <Warbo> LookTJ: Maybe try WINE
[02:55] <Warbo> !info wine
[02:55] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[02:55] <steamR> Where do I change the default color that's in the backround between login and desktop?
[02:55] <LookTJ> i dont know howto use wine
[02:56] <LookTJ> lawl
[02:56] <Awesome-o2000> am I asking something wrong here?
[02:56] <Warbo> steamR: I think it is in System>Admin>Login Window (failing that it is also in the file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf)
[02:56] <Warbo> LookTJ: Do you have Universe enabled?
[02:56] <LookTJ> yes
[02:56] <steamR> Warbo: tnx
[02:57] <Warbo> LookTJ: OK, then install WINE using Synaptic, then double click the exe file (or type into a terminal "wine programname.exe")
[02:57] <steamR> found it
[02:57] <LookTJ> k ill try
[02:57] <timbobsteve> hey all
[02:58] <mistform> no kernel selection pos
[02:58] <mistform> oh well
[02:58] <mistform> it's my sleepytime... i've stayed up far too long
[02:58] <nubbe> HI, how do I change character encoding in gnome-terminal to ISO-8859-15 for just that session on the command line?
[02:58] <MaxL> how do I create a folder in terminal?
[02:59] <Warbo> MaxL: "mkdir foldername"
[02:59] <HeathenDan> mkdir
[02:59] <MaxL> mmmmkay
[02:59] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[02:59] <LookTJ> how the heck big is wine package?
[02:59] <leeyee> well, I tried "root (hd0,7)", and then was told "Selected disk doesn't exist."
[02:59] <MaxL> Oh and how do I see how all like hidden files and stuff?
[02:59] <leeyee> Warbo, how is then?
[02:59] <MaxL> [I'm trying to get Egoboo to work] 
[02:59] <Warbo> WINE -> "package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB"
[02:59] <nubbe> MaxL, ls -a
[02:59] <reiki> MaxL ls -la
[02:59] <MaxL> kk
[03:00] <timbobsteve> I am looking to dual boot my g3 ibook with xubuntu, but in the installer it keeps saying I need a "New World" format partition. Gparted doesn't provide this. I don't have access to the alternate install either. Any ideas?
[03:00] <reiki> or that
[03:00] <LookTJ> thanks Warbo
[03:00] <Warbo> leeyee: Hmm, have you used the 6.06.1 install CD?
[03:00] <leeyee> yes
[03:00] <Warbo> (in other words, are you using a -26 kernel or a -23 kernel)
[03:01] <angelaki> who can help me with ssh??
[03:01] <leeyee> Warbo, yes I do
[03:01] <Warbo> leeyee: So you have 2.6.15-26-386 installed?
[03:01] <reiki> angelaki, just ask your question and whoever can help, will
[03:01] <leeyee> Warbo, 1.6.15-26-686
[03:01] <redi> hello... how do i find out what my ubuntu version is?
[03:02] <Warbo> leeyee: OK, try running in GRUB (press "c" for commandline) "find /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686"
[03:02] <angelaki> i need to connect in my home pc from my work but i cant
[03:02] <Warbo> leeyee: If that says not found then try without the fisrt slash
[03:02] <Warbo> *first
[03:03] <Typhon> angelaki: you're running sshd at home, and your firewall has port 22 open?
[03:03] <kingdong> and your router has port 22 forwarded to that pc
[03:03] <leeyee> Warbo, How can I boot into text mode? I have no idea about that
[03:04] <redi> how do i find what version my ubuntu install is
[03:04] <LookTJ> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\VoipBuster.com\\VoipBuster\\VoipBuster.exe" failed, status c0000135
[03:04] <angelaki> i run sshd in my home and use no-ip service. In my dsl router use port forwarding in port 20002
[03:04] <angelaki> but i can connect only in localhost
[03:04] <LookTJ> ??
[03:04] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[03:04] <Warbo> leeyee: GRUB has a commandline. You can get to it by pressing "c" on the menu screen (the one with all of your operating systems listed on it). If you don't get a menu screen then you can press the Esc key to get out of hidden mode
[03:05] <leeyee> Warbo, you know, I only got a "Error 17" message, so I'm using Live-CD
[03:05] <LookTJ> werbo help
[03:06] <redi> how do i find what version my ubuntu install is
[03:06] <LookTJ> version
[03:06] <reiki> redi, try System -> About Ubuntu
[03:06] <leeyee> Warbo: I even don't know how can I boot into rescue mode in Dapper
[03:06] <Warbo> leeyee: You would get an error if you tried to boot an operating system, but GRUB's commandline is part of GRUb and not part of an operating system
[03:07] <reiki> redi or try uname -a in a terminal and see if that gives you what you're looking for
[03:07] <Lynoure> angelaki: a trivial question: do you then also specify a port 20002 when sshing in?
[03:07] <leeyee> Warbo, you just mean that I can run grub under Live-cd?
[03:07] <LookTJ> warbo i get error
[03:07] <LookTJ> i installed the exe
[03:07] <Warbo> leeyee: No, I mean that you can run GRUB like you have been doing before, but instead of telling it to boot Ubuntu (which isn't working) you tell it to give you a commandline
[03:07] <angelaki> yes
[03:08] <LookTJ> but when i try to run it gets error
[03:08] <Warbo> LookTJ: WINE isn't a complete solution yet, unformunately :(
[03:08] <angelaki> when give ssh localhost -p 20002 works fine
[03:08] <LookTJ> how do i remove the program i installed?
[03:08] <LookTJ> the exe program?
[03:08] <angelaki> but when type ssh -p 20002 angelaki.no-ip.org nothing happens!!!
[03:09] <Warbo> LookTJ: It will be in $HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files ($HOME is your home folder by the way)
[03:09] <nubbe> Can I specify character encoding for ssh?
[03:09] <Warbo> LookTJ: That is hidden, since .wine starts with a dot
[03:10] <nubbe> Can I specify character encoding for a specific ssh session only?
[03:10] <leeyee> Warbo, I just pressed 'c' when it appears GRUB Loading stage 1.5...
[03:11] <leeyee> But it didn't helo
[03:11] <Lynoure> angelaki: sounds like something wrong in the router settings or in no-ip. Does no-ip give the right ip, at least?
[03:11] <Warbo> leeyee: does GRUB appear as a fullscreen menu with your operating systems listed, or as a couple of lines of text with a countdown?
[03:11] <LookTJ> thanks warbo
[03:11] <Awesome-o2000> how do I get linux-restricted-modules for the server kernel?
[03:11] <leeyee> Warbo, Nothing
[03:12] <Typhon> angelaki: what kind of authorization is set up with sshd? I used to have a similar problem, but I forget exactly how I fixed it :)
[03:12] <leeyee> I could only see "GRUB loading.....Please wait"
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: synaptic :)
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Erm, then how do you know that GRUB is even installed? It must do one of those
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Ah
[03:12] <gnomefreak> no nvm thats a ly
[03:12] <leeyee> Warbo, and then it appears "Error 17" immediately
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Then that isn't nothing, that is a couple of lines of text
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> gnomefreak im not able to find it with apt-get
[03:12] <angelaki> when i use ping in my machine take answer. Only from local machine works the ping
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> or apt-cache search
[03:12] <Warbo> leeyee: Does it say anything about pressing Esc?
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> its for everything BUT server
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> and my feelings are very hurt
[03:12] <leeyee> Warbo, nope
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: apt-cache search kernel? btw server kernel shouldnt need them since its a basic kernel
[03:13] <Awesome-o2000> why shouldnt it need them, I have an nvidia card
[03:13] <Warbo> leeyee: Then GRUB doesn't seem to understand the drive it's on. Maybe you could reinstall GRUB?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: restricted mods are for video mainly and server = no gui
[03:13] <Warbo> !grub
[03:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:14] <Warbo> restricted also has some wifi in it as well, right?
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> thats cracked out - i AM going to have to compile my own kernel :(
[03:14] <leeyee> Warbo, yes I did it.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Warbo: yes
[03:14] <Warbo> thought so
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: no why not just grab a reg. kernel
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> gnomefreak I dont want preemption
[03:14] <leeyee> War, However, it told that "(hd0,7) selected disk doesn't exists"
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> it IS a server after all
[03:15] <leeyee> Warbo, so I can't re-install grub
[03:15] <Warbo> By the way, packages are named "linux-XXXXXXX" rather than "kernel-XXXXXXX" since 2.6 was adopted
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Awesome-o2000: than your nvidia card shouldnt matter since you said
[03:15] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Arguably, the main case against preemption was reliability - it was simply less tested.
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Warbo: yes i know but searching kernel will giv eyou all kernel packages :)
[03:15] <Awesome-o2000> I thought it was because it would make the gameserver stutter
[03:15] <Warbo> leeyee: Seems like it's device.map file might be wrong
[03:16] <Awesome-o2000> gnomefreak it always matters to have HW support :(
[03:16] <Warbo> leeyee: That file is in /boot/grub I think, on your installation (in other workds don't go changing the Live CD's by mistake). It should say something like "hd0    sda"
[03:16] <timbobsteve> when the ubuntu installer talks about the newWorld partition, is that /dev/hda1 (its like 33kb or something)?
[03:17] <leeyee> Warbo, okay, I will mount it on, and check that
[03:17] <LookTJ> dang gunz isnt compatiable with wine i gues
[03:17] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Hmm, in that _specific_ case of a gameserver, if there is a documented case against preemption, then you do have a point :)
[03:17] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: It's not hard to compile your own kernel anyway :)
[03:17] <Arafangion> Awesome-o2000: Though, I'd ask debian how one compiles it "the debian way"
[03:18] <leeyee> Warbo, I installed it on /dev/sda8, and /etc/fstab shows this too. However, when I did "fdisk -l" under Live-CD, I saw Linux is on /dev/sda6, weird!
[03:18] <Warbo> I'm really sorry I've got to go, someone please help leeyee with GRUB. It won't load, not even it's menu, with Error 17. HD is SCSI and Ubuntu is on sda8, Windows on sda1. I think it might be GRUB's device.map file
[03:18] <Warbo> leeyee: I always go by the sizes rather than the filesystem fdisk tells me
[03:19] <Warbo> bye
[03:20] <angelaki> my friend just now connect in my pc with putty. Why i can't connect from my work linux pc??
[03:20] <timbobsteve> is there a ppc specific channel I can ask questions in?
[03:20] <RyanTMulligan> I do I check if I am using Xorg or XFree86?
[03:20] <T-Rex> I'm trying to install 6.06 on a Thinkpad i1400 Type 2621 Mod 420, and it won't recognise the CD-ROM, any thoughts?
[03:20] <RyanTMulligan> T-Rex: you could do a network install using floppy disks
[03:20] <timbobsteve> RyanTMulligan: check for xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ .... if you have it then its Xorg
[03:21] <RyanTMulligan> timbobsteve: okay thanks, i have xorg.
[03:21] <chell> Hello
[03:21] <timbobsteve> hi
[03:21] <T-Rex> OBTW, complete newbie w/o capability to make floppies
[03:22] <RyanTMulligan> T-Rex: you don't have a floppy drive anywhere?
[03:22] <timbobsteve> T-Rex: ouch... then you have a hurdle ahead of you
[03:22] <Awesome-o2000> ok heres the thing about compiling the debian way
[03:22] <Awesome-o2000> I need to make the kernel appear as if it is the stock 686 kernel
[03:23] <RyanTMulligan> T-rex: does your laptop recognize cd-roms in whatever OS you used to use?
[03:23] <angelaki> my friend just now connect in my pc with putty. Why i can't connect from my work linux pc??
[03:23] <angelaki> my friend just now connect in my pc with putty. Why i can't connect from my work linux pc??
[03:23] <chell> What do  reckon, is .NET programming with VMWare Server + Windows XP + 512 MB RAM (in total in my machine) any good?
[03:24] <timbobsteve> angelaki: that is an ambiguous question... you have given us no information to work with.... give us more info before you get bored and spam the channel
[03:24] <gr33npho3nix> angelaki: firewalls?
[03:24] <timbobsteve> chell: .NET is never good
[03:24] <timbobsteve> :P
[03:24] <chell> Well, I need it
[03:24] <chell> and I don't want to mess around with mono
[03:24] <Oni-Dracula> wow
[03:24] <Oni-Dracula> something in amarok is eating my cpu
[03:24] <chell> so, my question is: Will it run fast enough?
[03:24] <sda> then UNneed it...
[03:24] <angelaki> i dont have firewall
[03:24] <timbobsteve> chell: the virtualisation is good... or dual booting... whichever you prefer really
[03:24] <T-Rex> Thinkpad recognized CD-ROM under Win98, and it booted from CD-ROM (set the BIOS), but when I go to install 6.06, it says I need to install the drivers from a floppy.  Can't find the drivers, will have to re-install old hardrive (w/ Win98 on it) in order to use the box
[03:25] <chell> I can't just UNeed things
[03:25] <timbobsteve> chell: I think it will run OK for development purposes
[03:25] <chell> ;-)
[03:25] <Arafangion> chell: You have fewer crappy drivers, so it may run faster.
[03:25] <sda> :D
[03:25] <visik7> hi
[03:25] <chell> alright thank you
[03:25] <visik7> why changelogs.ubuntu.com aren't in synk with the real state of the packages ?
[03:25] <LookTJ> warbo will photoshop install via wine?
[03:26] <fildo> hi ppl. having an issue with knetstats and wondering if anyone could help me out
[03:26] <T-Rex> RyanT, evidently thinkpad CD-ROMs are nonstandard
[03:27] <infidel> what do i use at console if i want to move more thatn one file at a time?
[03:27] <Typhon> chell: don't know anything about VMWare but in just winXP and VS.NET its about 270MB memory load
[03:27] <Ackeubu_> if i cant install the dependency should i install the package manually? " Depends: ttf-dustin  but it is not installable"
[03:27] <chell> I'm not going to use VS.NET (or at least probably not)
[03:27] <chell> SharpDevelop will do
[03:27] <chell> or a simple text editor
[03:28] <chell> well that's a little too simple ;-)
[03:28] <Typhon> well, then there shouldn't be a problem :)
[03:28] <chell> good
[03:28] <leeyee> Thanks you guys, I've fixed it
[03:28] <leeyee> Thanks Warbo, although you are not here
[03:28] <visik7> for example mono is at 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu2 but http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/interpreters/mono says it stay at 1.1.16.1-0ubuntu3
[03:29] <T-Rex> RyanT, how do I do a network install if I can make the floppies?
[03:29] <LookTJ> gftp?
[03:29] <LookTJ> or something
[03:29] <LookTJ> idk
[03:30] <chell> I have two network cards and would like to figure out which one (eth0 or eth1)  has received an ip adress from my dhcp router. I've already run ifconfig and I think it's eth0. Can someone please confirm if I paste my output on some no-paste service?
[03:31] <kingdong> check the topic for pastebin
[03:31] <fildo> i need to install kdelibs-bin but it comes up and tells me
[03:31] <fildo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:31] <fildo>   kdelibs-bin: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2) but it is not going to be installed
[03:31] <fildo> E: B
[03:32] <visik7> fildo: you have sources.list messed up
[03:32] <chell> the output is in German though (I have to use a German machine here :-( ): http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/3386/
[03:33] <Trackilizer> I built in a old video card in my old PC but it only shows black and white.
[03:33] <Trackilizer> It has no color.
[03:33] <chell> I think it is eth0, can anyone confirm
[03:33] <chell> no colour, hmm. Everything okay with your xserver?
[03:33] <visik7> fildo: here kdelibs-bin is installed with all its own dependancies
[03:34] <LookTJ> what are chances of installing msn live?
[03:34] <LookTJ> via Wine
[03:35] <Arafangion> Low to non-existant.
[03:35] <fildo> hmm ok. cause i used the source list generator thats all
[03:35] <chell> try vmware
[03:35] <chell> and install win xp
[03:35] <chell> then it will work
[03:35] <Arafangion> chell: I use qemu + kqemu for visual studio, myself. :)
[03:35] <visik7> !restricted
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <kingdong> would /dev/hdh be hd7 in grub?
[03:36] <LookTJ> i would have to buy vmware
[03:36] <chell> is qemu faster than vmware
[03:36] <chell> no
[03:36] <chell> there is a free version
[03:36] <chell> VMware Server
[03:36] <LookTJ> where?
[03:36] <chell> www.vmware.com
[03:36] <Trackilizer> I changed the card and it works well, i don't have any color when i put this on in.
[03:36] <LookTJ> for linux?
[03:36] <chell> yes
[03:36] <Arafangion> chell: I hate how they make it hard to find quickly.
[03:36] <Arafangion> Personally, I'm very happy with qemu and kqemu :)
[03:36] <mattikoo> Hello. What services have to be running that reboot and shutdown runs right?
[03:37] <angelaki> how i can add a missing dll in wine??
[03:37] <chell> I hate it that you have to register to get a serial
[03:37] <Arafangion> angelaki: Try adding it as you would windows - and hope that it doesn't do anything other than just call other dll's.
[03:37] <eliphas> qemu is really slow compares to vmware
[03:37] <eliphas> imo
[03:37] <Arafangion> eliphas: Hence why I use kqemu as well :)
[03:38] <eliphas> ok
[03:38] <eliphas> i never tried kqemu
[03:38] <Arafangion> eliphas: Infact, windows runs _faster_ in qemu than it does on the real hardware.
[03:38] <lakefire> good morning
[03:38] <Arafangion> eliphas: (But, I do seem to have seriously crap drivers installed with the factory installation)
[03:38] <eliphas> Arafangion i agree with that my windows never started so fast
[03:38] <LookTJ> chell i only have a 40Gb hd
[03:38] <LookTJ> that ok?
[03:39] <chell> yes
[03:39] <chell> totally
[03:39] <Arafangion> LookTJ: I give qemu 10G, and that's still plenty
[03:39] <eliphas> Arafangion you where not expecting to use the 3D on your qmeu :)
[03:39] <lakefire> I am looking at getting help playing mp3's on my ubuntu machine that are stored on a windows server on the LAN
[03:39] <Arafangion> eliphas: I _don't_ use 3D in my qemu ;)
[03:39] <eliphas> LookTJ I used 5 gb on vmware
[03:39] <fredl> what's a decent screen grabber?
[03:40] <fredl> !grab
[03:40] <Arafangion> eliphas: Apparently vmware has an edge when it comes to graphics, but qemu is just as fast in everything else.
[03:40] <eliphas> I am using windows 2k
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <fredl> !grabber
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grabber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <fredl> Hmm
[03:40] <chris`> hi, how can i create a link to a command on my desktop? i just want to click on the icon and it shall run the command
[03:40] <LookTJ> um sorry idk howto install vmware
[03:40] <Arafangion> fredl: gimp, you are going to edit it anyway, right?
[03:40] <LookTJ> chell join chitchat
[03:40] <chell> LookTJ: I can walk you through it
[03:40] <Arafangion> fredl: Or, just hit printscreen.
[03:40] <chell> chitchat?
[03:40] <LookTJ> yea
[03:41] <chell> what do you mean by chitchat
[03:41] <fredl> Arafangion, nope, not going to edit any, I knew of gimp to do it and I want only part of the screen. Oh well, gimp will do.
[03:41] <Arafangion> fredl: Aha, so you *do* want to edit it.
[03:41] <LookTJ>  /j #chitchat
[03:41] <r33> hey there..  I've got 5.04 : The Hoary Hedgehog ubuntu and am having trouble getting certasin websites.  I've tried using both Firefox and Mozilla broswer.  How can i check my DNS settings?
[03:41] <kingdong> lol awesome i installed gentoo and when i boot off the drive all it does is say GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB
[03:41] <kingdong> i mean ubuntu.
[03:41] <fredl> Arafangion, no I don't want to edit it, hence 'not going to edit any' :)
[03:41] <Arafangion> fredl: Did you say you only wanted a part of the screen?
[03:42] <fredl> Arafangion, yup.
[03:42] <Arafangion> fredl: QED
[03:42] <Typhon> semantics
[03:42] <Typhon> is clipping actually "editting"?
[03:42] <lakefire> r33:  Should be able to go to System > Admin >networking
[03:42] <fredl> heh
[03:42] <Arafangion> Typhon: Quad Eratum Demonstratum, indeed. Yes, clipping is a change.
[03:42] <fredl> I see.
[03:42] <fredl> Hums
[03:42] <r33> ok cheers lakefire.
[03:42] <eliphas> LookTJ here is a guide for vmware server
[03:42] <eliphas> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[03:42] <fredl> Arafangion, grrr :)
[03:43] <chris`> hi, how can i create a link to a command on my desktop? i just want to click on the icon and it shall run the command
[03:44] <eliphas> gnome : right click create launcher
[03:44] <fredl> uhh gimp help starts up Konqueror
[03:44] <fredl> wow
[03:44] <godfather> hi everybody
[03:45] <fredl> chris`, just right click the icon from your menu
[03:45] <lakefire> chris: right click on desktop > create launcher > put command in
[03:45] <Arafangion> fredl: I see your running kubuntu?
[03:45] <fredl> and then 'add this launcher to desktop'
[03:45] <chris`> fredl i use xubuntu
[03:45] <fredl> Arafangion, no I have used kubuntu-desktop in the past.
[03:45] <chris`> i need perhaps the console commad
[03:45] <r33> lakefire: is there is a way to flush the DNS, similar to the Windows command ipconfig /flushdns
[03:45] <nubbe> HI, how do I change character encoding in gnome-terminal to ISO-8859-15 for just that session on the command line?
[03:45] <lakefire> r33 are you behind a linksys router?
[03:46] <IndyBC> Hello. I have installed sendmail with apt-get, but I removed it. However, many many files have remain, related to sendmail. How can I remove them?
[03:46] <fredl> chris`, what window manager does xubuntu come with again?
[03:46] <IndyBC> * remained
[03:46] <Typhon> chris', you can always use a shell script instead of a launcher
[03:46] <tarzeau> IndyBC: like config files?
[03:46] <lakefire> and, i am not familiar with the flushdns command in windows.
[03:46] <tarzeau> IndyBC: you can remove them with apt-get --purge (or dpkg)
[03:46] <IndyBC> tarzeau: not only
[03:47] <IndyBC> tarzeau: NOT only config files :(
[03:47] <nubbe> Can I specify character encoding for a specific ssh session only?
[03:47] <r33> lakefire: nope.  Direct connection, no router
[03:47] <fredl> Xfce... I don't know anything about Xfce to be honest.
[03:47] <tarzeau> IndyBC: well try it, and look what's left over
[03:47] <IndyBC> cron scripts, man docs, tars and others
[03:47] <IndyBC> tarzeau: I did
[03:47] <fredl> I used to use fluxbox when memory was low...
[03:47] <IndyBC> and it said: sendmail is not installed so cannot be removed
[03:47] <tarzeau> IndyBC: dpkg -l |grep sendmail says what?
[03:47] <IndyBC> w8
[03:48] <KenSentMe> IndyBC: reinstall it, then remove it with --purge
[03:48] <IndyBC> ii  sendmail-base                          8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1    powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[03:48] <IndyBC> ii  sendmail-bin                           8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1    powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[03:48] <IndyBC> ii  sendmail-cf                            8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1    powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[03:48] <tarzeau> IndyBC: it's all still installed
[03:49] <IndyBC> KenSentMe: --purge removes only the config files, or all the files related to the package?
[03:50] <Arafangion> IndyBC: remove deletes the package. --purge *also* deletes the config files.
[03:50] <Jenga> Would anybody mind having a look at an error log resulting from a failed install of Xfce4.4rc1?
[03:51] <IndyBC> Arafangion: I know. But it removes only the config files or also, all others related to the package?
[03:51] <IndyBC> (I don't mean the essential package files themselves)
[03:51] <Marlun> How come when I write "ps" I only get bash and ps, but if I do "top" I get some other processes like fastcgi processes? can I see them and their pid in a static list somehow?
[03:51] <fredl> IndyBC, --purge will ONLY delete all files from one SINGLE package
[03:51] <n00blar> Hi all...does anyone know how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. I can't seem to access the forums for some reason
[03:51] <IndyBC> fredl: I know this. After:
[03:52] <Typhon> marlun: try ps ax
[03:52] <kingdong> ps -aux
[03:52] <IndyBC> sudo apt-get --purge remove sendmail will there be any files related to sendmail?
[03:52] <kingdong> any idea what grub error 17 means
[03:52] <Typhon> does ps require the '-'?
[03:52] <fredl> IndyBC, no sendmail config files and no files from the sendmail package. I think I know what you mean though, you mean if there will still be related packages installed, correct?
[03:52] <Ackeubu_> hey you guys. installed quake2 from syaptic. it says files are missing. and i read that the full quake2 needs to be installed..??
[03:53] <fredl> Grrr so he leaves before he could read that.
[03:53] <kingdong> no ps doesnt require the -
[03:53] <Marlun> Typhon, kingdong: thanks! :)
[03:54] <fredl> deborphan is kinda cool actually
[03:54] <Ogus> hi folks, got a question -- I'm 1.5 weeks new to Linux -- got  Alienware area 51 with a Nforce4 motherboard and a 6800 ultra/ nvidia graph card. I am having trouble installing games and I'm sure its because I need to update my nvidia drivers. 1) how do you Exit the X server? 2) does anyone have a good URL that explains the process with dapper? Each time I have tried I get the "blue screen" when I boot up and have to correct the x
[03:54] <Ogus> org config file -anyone have a suggestion?
[03:55] <juan> why dont my searches bring up files i no i have? and where are fonts kept?
[03:56] <n00blar> Og, easiest to install NVidia drivers is if you use Automatix
[03:56] <Ogus> ok that in repository
[03:56] <Ogus> ?
[03:56] <fredl> Ogus - Hmm, you can kill the X server with ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:56] <Onimae> You don't kill it.
[03:56] <Onimae> You restart it.
[03:56] <Onimae> But, if you like kill better, than yes.
[03:56] <fredl> gdm will restart it if y ou kill it
[03:57] <Ogus> k
[03:57] <Typhon> sometimes it doesn't restart for me
[03:57] <fredl> Ogus - gdm will only restart it a few times though.
[03:57] <Ogus> so to exit x sever you ctrl alt f1?
[03:57] <Typhon> oh, i guess thats why :P
[03:57] <n00blar> Hi all...does anyone know how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:57] <steamR> Ilike ubuntu, but I feel it is well "OverBranded". Managed to clear all indications of ubuntu, except from that african tarraram sound at gdm login. How can i remove that?
[03:57] <nubbe> HI, how do I change character encoding in gnome-terminal to ISO-8859-15 for just that session on the command line?
[03:57] <Typhon> ogus-- not exactly
[03:58] <TmScot> excellent dapper drake ppc on an imac333mhz
[03:58] <fredl> no, ctrl-alt-backspace. ctrl-alt-f1 will take you to a virtual console (text)
[03:58] <Typhon> that switches terminals
[03:58] <philipsmith> I plugged my digital camera into the USB port to import new photos. The camera shows as an icon on my desktop, but the new photos aren't in the folder under that new icon... only old photos that I had erased. What is this about?
[03:58] <kingdong> you mean you don't want to stick the ubuntu stickers all over your pc?? omfg rofl.
[03:58] <n00blar> Ogus, if you do a search on the ubuntu forums for Automatix, you'll find a link and instruction on how to install it
[03:58] <juan> .steamr its under login screen options under acesibility
[03:58] <Typhon> ogus: when you ctrlaltf1 you can get back to X with ctrlaltf7 or so
[03:58] <steamR> juan: tnx
[03:58] <fredl> alt-f7
[03:59] <Ogus> nooblar: ok thx man I havent tried that yet -  its just I cant get any game to run
[03:59] <Typhon> :)
[03:59] <Nookie^> !aiglx
[03:59] <juan> !fonts
[03:59] <Nookie^> !fonts
[03:59] <juan> where does ubunutu put the fonts?
[03:59] <n00blar> Ogus, playing Windows games in Linux is tricky....you will need a program called wine
[03:59] <Nookie^> fonts://
[04:00] <Ogus> yea I saw wine but that looked tricky too
[04:00] <Ogus> thought I would try to install better drivers - if they are better before trying wine
[04:00] <n00blar> Ogus, or if you're willing to pay a subscription fee, you can support Transmeta...they support lots of games by using a modified version of wine
[04:00] <Ogus> transmeta - ok ill check that out too
[04:01] <n00blar> Ogus, I subscribed to transmeta and payed for their product..it's called Cedega, and I'm able to play many games..some just don't work thouh :(
[04:02] <LordSkylark> hello
[04:02] <juan> please anybody, i have tahoma installed but need to copy the file to wine, but i dont know where the windows and/or linux copies of my fonts are kept
[04:02] <Ogus> I was thinking of getting another drive and installing windows on that just for games but, you know, I'm sick of windows
[04:02] <steamR> juan: U know where to change the "stert" menu icon as well?
[04:03] <n00blar> Ogus, well, check out Transmet.com and see if the game you want to play is supported by them
[04:03] <steamR> start
[04:03] <juan> nope i no nothing i just came across turning sounds off yesterday
[04:03] <n00blar> I play only two games, so I'm ok...but if you play lots of games, you might want to go that route...dual booting to XP
[04:04] <Ogus> k will do - got a few new suggestions I havent done yet so thanks - appreciate it
[04:04] <n00blar> np
[04:04] <LordSkylark> Ogus: if you want to pla games on linux you cn try Cedega
[04:04] <LordSkylark> =)
[04:05] <LordSkylark> can*
[04:05] <Ogus> k
[04:05] <LordSkylark> anyone can help me setting up a philips webcam on my ubuntu 6.06 please?
[04:05] <LordSkylark> :)
[04:06] <LordSkylark> i did some searches on the web and everyone sais that it is working
[04:06] <LordSkylark> but no tutorial found
[04:06] <LordSkylark> :(
[04:06] <Naik0> Hey, my sound is working greatnow, but can i turn off that i hear my self?
[04:06] <Naik0> when i talking in the mic
[04:06] <jon_k> Naik0, you mute the mic
[04:06] <Naik0> then i cant talk
[04:06] <jon_k> Naik0, install alsamixer (apt get it if need be)
[04:06] <Naik0> i got alsa
[04:06] <jon_k> it's one of the mic things if you hit M on it, it will disable the echo
[04:07] <Naik0> ok
[04:07] <jon_k> i think to the right of the slider for the mic input volume
[04:07] <jon_k> if your soundcard supports it, it should disable the echo
[04:07] <kingdong> does anyone know how to fix: "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17"
[04:07] <jon_k> kingdong, what happened to break it?
[04:07] <Hannnibal> got a sound prob too ;)
[04:08] <kingdong> it never worked in the first place jon_k
[04:08] <LordSkylark> :(
[04:08] <wor> part
[04:08] <wor> sorry
[04:08] <jon_k> Naik0, mike boost should fix the mike ehco
[04:08] <kingdong> i haven't been able to boot from ubuntu on my hard disk yet
[04:08] <LordSkylark> noone knows how to install philips spc200 nc webcam?
[04:09] <Healot> nope, LordSkylark, checked out the webcam compatibility list yet?
[04:09] <Jimmey> I've got a PCI nVidia GeForce card, and have just installed 6.06 to find that X won't start. What's the problem?
[04:09] <LordSkylark> Healot: where? :O
[04:09] <\m> moin
[04:09] <LordSkylark> Jimmey: where you found a pci video card? :O
[04:10] <Healot> ubuntu's hcl page, or better >> Google
[04:10] <\m> ex-chat
[04:10] <\m> ?
[04:10] <Jimmey> LordSkylark, Amazon.
[04:10] <Jimmey> But more importantly, X won't start. How can I get it work?
[04:11] <kingdong> does anyone know how to get past the error 17 in grub to boot ubuntu? icant find it in the FAQ
[04:11] <mojo> o la la, GNOME 2.16 is close to be out
[04:11] <Crazed> Jimmey: did you install any new drivers or updated your kernel ?
[04:11] <mojo> edgy just got new gnome-icon-theme-2.16
[04:11] <mojo> reallly nice icon set
[04:11] <Jimmey> Crazed, it's a fresh install
[04:11] <Crazed> then it sux :D
[04:11] <Crazed> what video card do you use ?
[04:12] <jon_k> kingdong, i'd try reinstalling grub, follow the second posts directions on this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[04:12] <Jimmey> Crazed, GeForce 5200FX
[04:12] <Crazed> hmm it's should just be working
[04:12] <Luke> could someone tell me if this website works for them please?  I can ping the url but it doesn't come up in any browser but neither does it say it can't find the site.  it is www.librarything.com
[04:12] <Crazed> did you only install it ?
[04:12] <Jimmey> Yep
[04:12] <kingdong> thanks jon_k i will do it =)
[04:12] <Luke> I'm at a loss as to how to trouble DNS
[04:13] <Luke> in ubuntu 5.04 hoary hedgehog
[04:13] <jon_k> kingdong, hope it works ;] 
[04:13] <chell> Luke: works
[04:14] <kingdong> i have 4 hard disks and it's a pain to get these to work right sometimes
[04:14] <MKR> D:
[04:15] <Luke> chell: many thanks.  Now I have to work out why it won't open in my browser.  Tried Mozilla, Lynx and Firefox
[04:16] <Luke> I can ping the domain so it resolves the domain to its location
[04:16] <Luke> but if i try and open it in a browser it just says connecting to www.librarything.com
[04:16] <Luke> and never opens.  Anyone suggest anhything?
[04:17] <Typhon> just for that site or any site?
[04:17] <covOPprometheus> sup guys, I'm having trouble with my cdrom: it's listed like hdb but there is no /dev/cdrom
[04:17] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help?
[04:17] <infidel> !xgl
[04:17] <infidel> !xgl
[04:17] <infidel> !compiz
[04:18] <Luke> typhon: just that site
[04:18] <infidel> anyone? amybody?
[04:18] <Luke> as far as I can tell anyway
[04:20] <Typhon> Luke: does restarting nscd do anything?
[04:21] <e-lynx> alguien tiene xgl/compiz instalado y que "gracias" a la ultima actualizacion le haya fallado?
[04:21] <lonki> afternoon all, small question about the server versions, which version holds nagios2 ?
[04:21] <Healot> !es
[04:21] <Luke> typhon: nscd?  how would I do that?
[04:21] <ryanakca> how do you upload to the wiki?
[04:22] <Typhon> well I was wondering if you were running some caching program
[04:22] <Typhon> like dnsmasq or nscd
[04:22] <Goose> Wow, Automatix is kinda slick.  Just testing out XChat
[04:22] <Healot> ow
[04:23] <Luke> not to my knowledge I'm not
[04:23] <ompaul> e-lynx, this is an english language channel, Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:25] <Typhon> :< maybe they banned your IP segment
[04:26] <Luke> :(
[04:26] <chell> ain't there an alternative site?
[04:27] <jjjjjjj> hello.  how do i "upgrade" to edubuntu?
[04:27] <chell> jjjjjjjj:
[04:27] <chell> install edubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <jjjjjjj> I'm running 5.10
[04:27] <jjjjjjj>  thx chell
[04:27] <chell> np mate
[04:27] <jjjjjjj> sudo apt-get?
[04:27] <chell> yeah
[04:28] <jjjjjjj> i opted to install the 5.10 from a cd vs. d/l edubuntu 6.06
[04:28] <nil> hi!
[04:28] <chell> oh
[04:28] <chell> well
[04:28] <jjjjjjj> but i remembered "upgrading" to edubuntu a few months ago
[04:28] <chell> so you have 5.10 non edubuntu and want dapper edubuntu?
[04:29] <jjjjjjj> ya something like that
[04:29] <jjjjjjj> either or.. doesn't matter... this pc is going to be for a young school age person
[04:29] <chell> then you have to install edubuntu edubuntu-desktop and change every breezy in your sources.list to dapper and run a dist-upgrade
[04:29] <Healot> change all the breezy entry to "dapper"; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; pray to GOD your installation isn't broken
[04:29] <ompaul> !easysource
[04:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:30] <nil> how can I have all the LAN printer detected? I selected the option in the printers tool, but nothing happens? am I missing something? I opened the 631 port via firestarter, and all the printers are driven bu a cups server on the network
[04:30] <n00blar> Hi all...does anyone know how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:30] <ompaul> jjjjjjj, before you do (A) did you use outside sources? (B) can you do >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << before you start
[04:31] <infidel> anyone know why xgl doesn't don't want to work for me?
[04:31] <jjjjjjj> i did a sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop just now
[04:32] <chell> good
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> it's chugging along at 2133kB
[04:32] <infidel> compiz.real: Screen 0 on display ":1.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[04:32] <infidel> compiz.real: No managable screens found on display :1.0
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> oops
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> 50.1kB/s
[04:33] <nil> n00blar: you are connecting it through usb?
[04:34] <mudarey> slm
[04:34] <mordof> alright i've got listed in linux 2 sound cards, however the default one in the sound properties does not work with my audio jack.. and my real sound card doesn't show up (but i have my audio to play out of it, like games and rhythmbox) but since the default player is the one that doesn't work, flash audio doesn't work
[04:34] <mordof> can anyone tell me how to disable an audio device inside linux? the other device isn't in my bios
[04:35] <rixxon> what can i do to get wifi working
[04:35] <chell> gotta go cya
[04:36] <juan> where dose ubuntu install system fonts
[04:36] <RaD|Tz> Is there a way to go from 6.06.1 yoto knot2?
[04:36] <RaD|Tz> Is there a way to go from 6.06.1 to knot2?
[04:36] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntu.com/ << why does the search bar say Buscar ?
[04:36] <MinisterPolite> good morning. a package by the name of "csm" is marked to be installed as an upgrade with this mornings updates. Selecting the package in Synaptic give no description. anyone know what this is?
[04:37] <mordof> rixxon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[04:37] <rixxon> Linuturk, random language
[04:37] <rixxon> mordof, i'll have a look thanks
[04:37] <mordof> np
[04:37] <RaD|Tz> Linuturk, mine says sog
[04:37] <Linuturk> wierd . . .
[04:37] <n00blar> nil: yes, I'm connecting through USB, sorry for the delay I was afk
[04:38] <lakefire> I need help playing mp3 files that are located on my windows server.  I am on ubuntu 6.06
[04:38] <kingdong> !ubuntu
[04:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:38] <kingdong> !ubotu
[04:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:38] <lakefire> I can get them to work in movie player, but nothing else
[04:38] <jjjjjjj> hmm... i left this pc on for a few days and a notice saying a new version of the linux kernel has just been installed and a reboot asap to complete the system update.  can i abort this edubuntu "upgrade"?
[04:39] <jjjjjjj> it's in the d/l portion of the "upgrade"
[04:39] <MinisterPolite> jjjjjjj: once you get a proper nick you'll get a proper answer
[04:39] <jjjjjjj> hey man.. that nick is 10 years old
[04:40] <nil> what do you think about this, for my network printer problem? http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2127
[04:40] <mordof> hmmm
[04:40] <jjjjjjj> back from the #win95 era
[04:40] <n00blar> Hi all...does anyone know how to import pictures from a digital camera? I have a Canon PowerShot and I'm getting a message that it cannot mount. Camera's connecting using USB.
[04:40] <kingdong> it is better than a nick of all underscores
[04:40] <kingdong> i have done it hehe
[04:40] <MinisterPolite> jjjjjjj: thats really nice
[04:40] <mordof> alright so when i did lshw, it reports that i have 2 cpus each with a physical id, and then inside those are 2 logical cpus.. i was aware it was dual core but does that mean they both have HT on them or something?
[04:41] <nil> n00blar: if you have no other scsi or usb harddisk/memory, can you try "pmount /dev/sda1" from the console?
[04:41] <n00blar> nil: I do have an external HD that's connected via USB
[04:42] <SpudDogg> anyone know if it is possible or feasible to play games like flight simulator or HL2 (and the mods) under ubuntu?
[04:42] <n00blar> nil: that device's connected to sdb1 though
[04:42] <mordof> SpudDogg, check the wine compatibility list
[04:42] <SpudDogg> mordof, wine?  is that an emulator or something?
[04:42] <mordof> yes
[04:42] <mordof> windows emulator
[04:42] <SpudDogg> gotcha
[04:42] <mordof> well..
[04:43] <Tom_> Bonjour tout le monde !!
[04:43] <mordof> it trys to run programs that are originally for windows, i don't know if it's technically an emulator
[04:43] <SpudDogg> how about performance...does wine take alot of resources?
[04:43] <iain_> hi all
[04:43] <kishore> hi all
[04:43] <SpudDogg> iain_: hello
[04:43] <SpudDogg> kishore: hello
[04:43] <jjjjjjj> all left a few minutes ago
[04:44] <iain_> sorry folks 1st time online using Linux.... feel a bit of a newbie
[04:44] <kishore> SpudDogg, hello
[04:44] <SpudDogg> mordof:  how about performance...does wine take alot of resources?
[04:44] <nil> n00blar: so, what's the exact message from pmount/dev/sdb1 ?
[04:44] <nil> n00blar: just "can't mount"?
[04:44] <mordof> SpudDogg, depends on the game
[04:44] <nil> Tom_: => #ubuntu-fr ? :)
[04:44] <SpudDogg> iain_ dont worry man, i'm a noob too
[04:44] <SpudDogg> iain_ learning though :)
[04:44] <iain_> cool
[04:45] <frying_fish> mordof: it's not an emulator, its in the name "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
[04:45] <frying_fish> it is an implementation of the windows api.
[04:45] <n00blar> nil, problem is I don't know which device the camera is being recognized as...the ubuntu import photo reads: Could not append folder '/DCIM/101AALOL' as this folder already exists.
[04:45] <kishore> among all buntus which one is prefferable.. x,u,k buntus
[04:45] <mordof> frying_fish, alright
[04:46] <frying_fish> mordof: sorry I wasn't being offensive, was just saying what it is.
[04:46] <AngryElf> is there anything like symantec backup exec for linux?
[04:46] <jjjjjjj> !backup
[04:46] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:46] <mordof> frying_fish, i know, i didn't take it as offensive. i wasn't sure weither it was an emulator or not and that cleared it up
[04:46] <frying_fish> AngryElf: lots of other tools that will do backup, like rsync.
[04:46] <frying_fish> mordof: :)
[04:47] <mordof> frying_fish, i'm just tryiong to see if ubuntu even picks up that i have a wireless card installed
[04:47] <AngryElf> that wasn't really my question.......is there anything like backup exec that is really robust, for linux?
[04:47] <mordof> it's frustrating because in a lower kernel (same version just 386: no dual core support) it picks it up perfect
[04:47] <n00blar> spud, I would do a search on www.winehq.com to make sure taht the game you want to play is fully supported..if it's not, try cedega from transmeta.com
[04:47] <mordof> but yet the 686 version does not
[04:47] <frying_fish> mordof: ok, lspci...
[04:47] <frying_fish> interesting that it picks it up in 386 but not 686
[04:48] <mordof> yeah
[04:48] <mordof> that's why it's pissing me off
[04:48] <nil> n00blar: so, it seems that the camera is already mounted as a volume
[04:48] <mordof> cause in 386 i can use wireless but not both my cores
[04:49] <nil> n00blar: type "mount" in the console, you should then see the camera listed in the mounted volumes
[04:49] <opexoc> what repository should I add to be able to install libusb 0.1.8 or higher?
[04:49] <n00blar> nil, it can't be (at least I think so). I unplugged it, rebooted, logged back in and then plugged it back in and I'm getting the same message all the time
[04:49] <antoine_> bonjour
[04:50] <antoine_> tt le monde
[04:50] <kingdong> salut
[04:50] <py_> when  install nvidia-glx on an up-to-date Dapper system, I get a version which is different from the kernel-module version. ANd thus it doesn't work. How to fix that?
[04:50] <kingdong> is all i have to do to switch to kubuntu is install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:50] <mordof> frying_fish, when i do lspci i get an Unknown Device 4222 where my wireless card should be
[04:50] <Przemcio1978> hi, how to resize /home partition using gparted? is it possible at all?
[04:50] <nil> n00blar: did you verify with "mount" ?
[04:50] <mordof> kingdong, are you on gnome right now?
[04:51] <kingdong> yes i had the regular ubuntu disks
[04:51] <kingdong> with gnome
[04:51] <mordof> i would seriously advise against that
[04:51] <mordof> and download kubuntu
[04:51] <mordof> and install it from that
[04:51] <kingdong> hm really.
[04:51] <kingdong> crap.
[04:51] <mordof> i did that and it screwed EVRYTHING up
[04:51] <frying_fish> mordof: interesting, so it kind of recongises it.
[04:51] <mordof> frying_fish, yeah.. but it doesn't have a driver for it in the new kernel maybe?
[04:51] <n00blar> nil, yes...I can paste the results...can't remember the site to paste it to though
[04:52] <mordof> is there a way to pull a driver from a kernel and package it so i can install it into another one? heh
[04:52] <Przemcio1978> i want to make some free space on my hard drive for winblows but i can't do it
[04:52] <py_> ok, so nvidia driver support is broken at the moment, that's what I should understand?
[04:52] <nil> n00blar: http://pastebin.com/ for example
[04:52] <frying_fish> mordof: possibly
[04:52] <frying_fish> maybe ndiswrapper would help.
[04:52] <frying_fish> mordof: what is the wireless card?
[04:52] <choique_> hi i whant to install zendstudio and i habe this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22528
[04:52] <frying_fish> you may be able to get the driver from the manufacturer itself and just compile it into your current kernel.
[04:52] <BeepAU> how's firestarter? i've used windows firewall programs in the past, and i've found they can be quite intrusive (e.g. ZoneAlarm), is firestarter similar in this respect?
[04:53] <mordof> umm.. it's the wireless card on the acer aspire 5610
[04:53] <n00blar> ni, Ok, thanks...just pasted it
[04:53] <frying_fish> mordof: best bet is to look online for it
[04:53] <frying_fish> so you know what model card it is and such
[04:53] <choique_> i have libc6 librarie and the link to
[04:53] <frying_fish> and then can look for a driver.
[04:53] <choique_> choique@choique:~$ ls -l /lib/libc.so.6
[04:53] <choique_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-07-17 16:35 /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.3.6.so
[04:53] <koizo7bsemnick> hello
[04:54] <mordof> frying_fish, i have the model and such in the manual book beside me
[04:54] <hadi> hi
[04:54] <Healot> BeepAU: firestarter is a packet filter builder, not the actuall firewall
[04:54] <koizo7bsemnick> how can I instal true tipe fonts in UBUNTU?
[04:54] <hadi> where is font folder?
[04:54] <BeepAU> Healot -- whats a packet filter? what should i use as a firewall then?
[04:54] <mordof> frying_fish, integrated Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[04:55] <Healot> beepau: http://en.wikipedia.org/Firewall
[04:55] <kingdong> UBUNTU
[04:56] <MinisterPolite> kingdong: ubotu spam is unwelcome
[04:56] <mordof> frying_fish, the weird part about it also though is that under lshw it lists the driver it is using, and it recognizes it as an ethernet controller
[04:56] <kingdong> ?
[04:56] <py_> so, no way at all to get nvidia driver to work at the moment?
[04:56] <mordof> frying_fish, it's currently using the ipw3945 driver
[04:56] <frying_fish> ok, so it is an interl
[04:56] <opexoc> Does anyone of you use some multifunction printer? Because I have bought one this day and I have some problems with installation.
[04:56] <frying_fish> which should work mostly fine
[04:56] <mordof> yeah, my chipset is intel
[04:57] <frying_fish> I know my 2200 works perfectly
[04:57] <mordof> should i do that same check on my older kernel and see what kind of output i get?
[04:57] <mordof> or won't that help
[04:58] <fog_proxy> Hi all. Does ubuntu has 'play' command for play sound?
[05:00] <koizo7bsemnick> how can I instal true tipe fonts in UBUNTU?
[05:00] <koizo7bsemnick> how can I install true type fonts in UBUNTU?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> fog_proxy: aplay /path/to/wav/file.wav
[05:01] <fog_proxy> Hobbsee: well,thanks
[05:03] <mantono> how do I change the systemwide default charset?
[05:03] <_Roman> I am having trouble getting mplayer to run properly from ubuntu.  I am using ubuntu 6.06 with XGL/Compiz.  I am using an AGP nvidia GeForce MX400 card with the nvidia X driver.  The problem is that mplayer is extremly choppy and eventually locks up completly.  Mplayer does give this warning though:  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:03] <mordof> frying_fish, do you think there is any chance that the ipw2200 driver would get my card running?
[05:04] <mantono> !charset
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about charset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <eod_punk> can someone give me a clue as to why my xorg.conf appears empty when I access it from a terminal, and has infomation when I open it through the gui interface?
[05:04] <miranda82> hello, does anyone here know, how i can put TRansparency instead of that awful black bg in gnome-dock? (got Composite enabled)
[05:04] <lakefire> eod_punk > typo?
[05:04] <lakefire> did you use this command: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:04] <mantono> eod_punk: are you root when you open it in the terminal?
[05:04] <eod_punk> I used sudo
[05:04] <frying_fish> mordof: nope, its designed for the ipw2200, but intel just opened all their specs, so there should definately be a driver for ipw3945 now
[05:05] <mordof> there isn't one in the driver list :(
[05:05] <eod_punk> I tried ita bunch of times so I don't think its a typo
[05:05] <mordof> frying_fish, i guess they are just taking their time in adding better wireless support
[05:05] <lakefire> pretty alt + f2, copy and paste what i put in above and make sure to check run in terminal
[05:05] <eod_punk> I'm trying to add some resolution to my monitor thats not listed.
[05:05] <miranda82> does anyone here know, how i can put TRansparency instead of that awful black bg in gnome-dock? (got Composite enabled)
[05:08] <brian98> mordof: Ndiswrapper is your friend if you can't get native drivers
[05:08] <miranda82> hi=
[05:08] <miranda82> hi?
[05:09] <mordof> brian98, i'm looking for native drivers, there are native ones as it works in the older kernel
[05:09] <Healot> not really your friend, but it does help solve half of your problems
[05:09] <mordof> brian98, in 386 my wireless card works perfect, in 686 it is hardly recognized
[05:09] <WD_Raptor> Helo
[05:09] <mordof> but i need to use 686 to recognize dual core
[05:09] <WD_Raptor> I am using VMWare to run ubuntu
[05:09] <WD_Raptor> can I install programs in that
[05:09] <WD_Raptor> ?
[05:09] <eod_punk> ndiswrapper rocks as long as you can find a driver that works
[05:09] <frogzoo> WD_Raptor: of course
[05:09] <WD_Raptor> how
[05:10] <WD_Raptor> when I download rpms they don't work
[05:10] <Jeruvy> WD_Raptor: just like you normally would...something not making sense to you?
[05:10] <eod_punk> I couldn't get my windows driver to work through it in linux but found a slightly different one that worked
[05:10] <miranda82> does anyone here know, how i can put TRansparency instead of that awful black bg in gnome-dock? (got Composite enabled)
[05:10] <brian98> mordof: ok, I just spent so much time trying to get native drivers for wireless working and gave up!
[05:10] <WD_Raptor> doesn;t work
[05:10] <jjjjjjj> aren't rpm's for redhat?
[05:10] <brian98> mordof: Even when the card is recognised it's not always guaranteed to work....
[05:10] <eod_punk> miranda82, do you mean in the cube background with xgl?
[05:11] <mordof> brian98, .. i've got the ipw3945.. it works in the same kernel but the 386 version
[05:11] <mordof> i don't understand why it wouldn't work in the 686 version :(
[05:11] <miranda82> eod_punk, in normal xorg,
[05:11] <miranda82> eod_punk, gnome-dock ?
[05:11] <eod_punk> oh ok sorry
[05:11] <MrFeetio> where can i find the defualt repo list, mine is gone
[05:11] <seif> hello, ubuntu is creating folders in root file system, with names of around 30 charachters, each folder contains a file $shtdwn$.req, can i delete those?
[05:11] <brian98> mordof: I don't have 64 bit so I can't help you my man..
[05:11] <godfather> guys
[05:11] <godfather> finally
[05:11] <seif> they look annoying
[05:11] <mordof> brian98, 686 is the 64 bit version?
[05:11] <godfather> i've installed real player
[05:12] <brian98> thats what I mean
[05:12] <brian98> I don't have it!
[05:12] <brian98> :)
[05:12] <mordof> no i know i didn't realize 686 was the 64 bit version
[05:12] <godfather> but i wish to launch it not frome console but fro an icon on the desktop
[05:12] <godfather> what i can do
[05:12] <godfather> i tried to use alcarte
[05:12] <jjjjjjj> ya godfather... took a bit of hair pulling with ubuntu running on a mac G4.
[05:12] <godfather> but i doesn't se real player
[05:12] <ubitux> coucou
[05:12] <mordof> brian98, see i didn't know specifically what changed between the two versions, but since now i know it's the 64 bit version.. things can be different with drivers
[05:12] <Healot> amd64-generic or something like that is 64-bit kernel package
[05:12] <ubitux> oups sorry
[05:13] <godfather> jjjjjj?
[05:13] <Healot> 686 is 32-bit
[05:13] <mordof> in which case i may just put up with switching kernels and losing a core when i want to go wireless
[05:13] <mordof> Healot, oh
[05:13] <mordof> then i still don't know what is wrong, lol
[05:13] <jjjjjjj> nothing... just commenting on your real player msg.
[05:13] <godfather> can you help me
[05:13] <muhammad> heey how can i play .cue and .bin files i have tried with mplayer but itsnt workin
[05:14] <godfather> ?
[05:14] <spiekey> ask #mplayer
[05:14] <Healot> muhammad: those are CD images
[05:14] <Healot> !info nrg2iso
[05:14] <Healot> !info bchunk
[05:14] <muhammad> Healot yea i know
[05:14] <muhammad> !bchunk
[05:14] <mordof> Healot, so then do you have any idea why the ipw3945 wouldn't work in 686 and works perfect in 386?
[05:14] <Healot> you need to convert and then mount the ISP image
[05:15] <Healot> mordof: iirc, it doesn't compile correctly ? or maybe something else
 aha but is there any tools i can download like daemon tools on windows ?
[05:15] <mordof> hmmm
[05:15] <nahoj> I have no network when I boot from a 6.06.1 LTS Ubuntu Desktop cd. what should I do? the network does not appear after install either..
[05:16] <mordof> Healot, do you know if there is a way to get dual core support in the 386 version then?
[05:16] <miranda82> does anyone here know, how i can put TRansparency instead of that awful black bg in gnome-dock? (got Composite enabled)
[05:16] <Healot> you need a 686 kernel, iirc, 686 kernel supports SMP
[05:16] <ozium> Hi all. Is there something wrong with the repos? My internet is fine, but when installing software I get like 30kb/s. 250kb/s is normal for my connection.
[05:17] <muhammad> !bchunck
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bchunck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <godfather> is there anyone can help me
[05:17] <Healot> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:17] <mordof> Healot, hmm, i did top.. i have the ipw3945 driver running, grr this is frustrating -.-
[05:18] <Healot> did you configure the interface yet?
[05:18] <jjjjjjj> what is the problem with realplayer godfather?
[05:18] <godfather> i've just installed
[05:18] <Healot> from my own experience the driver is buggy with the 64-bit kernel, causes me portable to crash
[05:18] <godfather> but i have launch it frome console
[05:19] <godfather> how can i launch it from an icon
[05:19] <godfather> in sound&video categories
[05:19] <godfather> i tried with alcarte
[05:19] <godfather> but it doesn't see realplauer
[05:19] <mordof> Healot, i'll just give up on it for now.. i guess i can handle only running single core to get wireless if i need to
[05:20] <mordof> Healot, besides, i kept windows xp as a dual boot because the website said my wireless card wouldn't work at all.. i was just suprised it would work, heh.. so i have an alternative
[05:20] <jjjjjjj> i'm not sure if this is the proper solution godfather but have you tried right clicking the applications menu?
[05:20] <mordof> not like i can't use it at all
[05:20] <jjjjjjj> > edit menus
[05:21] <mordof> Healot, one question though.. in the boot menu, when i switch from 386 to 686... does my UI or any of my programs change?
[05:21] <mordof> will it change anything
[05:22] <miranda82> does anyone here know, how i can put TRansparency instead of that awful black bg in gnome-dock? (got Composite enabled)
[05:25] <StoneNote> !xvid
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <godfather> jjjjj i've just tried but alcarte 's windows opens
[05:25] <jjjjjjj> what is alcarte's?
[05:25] <Red-Sox> Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble
[05:25] <godfather> alcarte menu editor
[05:26] <Red-Sox> I need to tell ubuntu that my moniter is wide sccreen
[05:26] <Red-Sox> Any ideas?
[05:26] <Red-Sox> s/sccreen/screen
[05:26] <covOPprometheus> hello everyone, is there any command to clean up installed and uninstalled app data? sort of a wipeout to reinstall it from scratch?
[05:27] <covOPprometheus> Red-Sox, you can't put the screen resolution to 1280x800, right?
[05:27] <muhammad> Healot i have made the .bin file with bchunk how can i play it now ?
[05:27] <Red-Sox> covOPprometheus, correct
[05:28] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, i'm in the same boat, missing resolutions form the xorg.conf
[05:28] <covOPprometheus> Red-Sox, hehe ok, I had the same prob, so let me check how I did it
[05:28] <covOPprometheus> ok
[05:28] <miranda82> does anyone here know, how i can put TRansparency instead of that awful black bg in gnome-dock? (got Composite enabled)
[05:28] <Red-Sox> Okay thanks covOPprometheus, you might wanna listen too eod_punk
[05:28] <Red-Sox> I'm running it inside of VMware :)
[05:29] <jjjjjjj> sorry godfather i don't have alcarte or know of it.  :(
[05:29] <godfather> no problem 7j
[05:30] <godfather> tnx
[05:30] <godfather> :)
[05:30] <godfather> jjjjjj
[05:30] <godfather> i have vlc
[05:31] <jjjjjjj> vlc?
[05:31] <godfather> and i want to set it as default mediaplayer
[05:31] <godfather> what can i do
[05:31] <muhammad> how can i update the kernel only ?
[05:31] <jjjjjjj> !update
[05:31] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:32] <MrParanoia> godfather> right click on the file with the approriate extension and select properties
[05:32] <opexoc> I need cubs-devel package, but I can't find any in my repository, moreover in google I can find only rpm packages... What shell I do?
[05:32] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, If you look in your xorg.conf file you'll see the resolution you want is not listed.  You need to add it in and mayneed to also add the refresh rate as well
[05:32] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: Okay
[05:32] <godfather> MrParanoia
[05:32] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: Where is the xorg.conf file?
[05:32] <Red-Sox> etx/x11?
[05:32] <MrParanoia> godfather> such as *.mp3, *.pls, etc
[05:33] <Red-Sox> etc*
[05:33] <godfather> i try to explain better my problem
[05:33] <godfather> yes
[05:33] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Widescreen_Resolutions_(WSXGA)
[05:33] <Red-Sox> tyvm
[05:33] <Larsson-Sweden> Im getting "soft CPU lockup" when trying to call someone on skype beta 1.3 . Any ideas?
[05:33] <godfather> i want to listen and see internet radio and tv
[05:33] <godfather> when you go on bbc site for example you have to click on "listen now"
[05:34] <_Roman> I get the following error when running mpalyer: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".  How can I fix this?  I have installed the xvidmode extention from synaptic.  I am running Ubuntu 6.06 with XGL/Compiz using an Nvidia GF MX400 card using the nvidia driver. Any suggestions?
[05:34] <godfather> but it needs realplayer
[05:34] <MrParanoia> godfather> i don't think there's a gui to set file associations in gnome like there is in kde
[05:34] <tuxar> someone knows about something that works likes MS activex in Linux ?
[05:35] <godfather> please let's try
[05:35] <godfather> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/internet/wsradio_today.shtml
[05:35] <MrParanoia> godfather> do you have realplayer installed?
[05:35] <godfather> click on listen now
[05:35] <godfather> yes
[05:35] <godfather> but it runs only form console
[05:35] <jjjjjjj> godfather did you install as per real.com instructions?
[05:36] <godfather> nono
[05:36] <jjjjjjj> - Ensure that the .bin file you downloaded is executable. You can make the .bin file executable by running the "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" command from a terminal window.
[05:36] <godfather> i've installed it following ubuntu documentation
[05:36] <jjjjjjj>  - Run the .bin file by typing "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin". Follow the prompts provided to finish installing the player.
[05:36] <godfather> using .deb file
[05:37] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: I can't open that link
[05:37] <godfather> under windows i click on the "listen now" andreal player runs automatically
[05:38] <covOPprometheus> Red-Sox, eod_punk, Sorry, I'm afk for a while, but it's simple, check in the wiki about the 915 or 955 resolution 'hack', get it from the universal packages and afterwards edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, any problem or doubt, keep asking
[05:38] <MrParanoia> godfather> i'll have to d/l and install realplayer
[05:38] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, it was the first link on google for "widescreen resolution"
[05:38] <godfather> ah ok
[05:38] <godfather> it doesn't matter
[05:38] <godfather> tnx
[05:38] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, sorry "widescreen resolutions"
[05:39] <_Roman> How do I enable the XVidMode extention?
[05:39] <MrParanoia> it sucks to have all this players to accomodate all these websites
[05:39] <had1> how can i add new fonts?
[05:40] <godfather> you're right
[05:40] <godfather> but you know
[05:40] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone recommend a webcam which isn't too expensive and is properly supported by ubuntu out of the box?
[05:40] <godfather> realplayer seems to accomodate a lot of site exspecially internet radiio and tv
[05:40] <Roh81> How do you run the... ah.... chmod? command? Ive completely forgotten it.
[05:40] <had1> how can i add new fonts?
[05:41] <Healot> man chmod >> Roh81, keep you accompanied
[05:41] <Red-Sox> Okay eod_punk
[05:42] <Roh81> No idea what you mean healot. Im trying to learn the syntax for it.
[05:42] <godfather> i don't want use windows again
[05:42] <Red-Sox> gar
[05:42] <had1> hello, how can i add new fonts?
[05:42] <jjjjjjj> roh81 you have to type man chmod from a terminal
[05:42] <Healot> Roh81: you'll learn from the "man"
[05:42] <Red-Sox> sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf doesn't work
[05:43] <EdoAndPimm> All your base!
[05:43] <jjjjjjj> or check out the wiki maybe?
[05:43] <had1> hey body!!
[05:43] <had1> how can i add new fonts?
[05:43] <Roh81> Yes j but I cant remember exactly how its typed out. something with + and all.
[05:43] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, does it pull up an empty document?
[05:43] <computer13137> Hello.  I need to download makefile for my Ubuntu box, but the Ubuntu box doesn't have an internet connection.  I can transfer it from a Windows box to the Ubuntu box through a pen drive, but I need a download link.  Google has not helped.  Where can I download the makefile program and gcc?
[05:43] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: Yeah
[05:43] <muhammad> what is the filesystem for and .iso image ?
[05:43] <eod_punk> i get the same thing
[05:44] <EdoAndPimm> I said all your base, respond
[05:44] <Healot> iso9660 > muhammad
[05:44] <eod_punk> maybe its supposed to be etc/x11/xorg.conf
 ok thx
[05:44] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: That's what I'm trying
[05:45] <EdoAndPimm> all your base...
[05:45] <Red-Sox> oh eod_punk
[05:45] <Red-Sox> i see what you mean
 so the command should like this sudo mount -o 9660 loop my.iso  ?
[05:45] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, did it work?
[05:45] <Roh81> What happened to all the helpful people from yesterday.....
[05:45] <jjjjjjj> http://catcode.com/teachmod/  is for chmod
[05:45] <Roh81> Thanks J.
[05:45] <jjjjjjj> meh
[05:45] <Red-Sox> nope eod_punk
[05:46] <Red-Sox> just another blank document
[05:46] <minerale> where may I find a vim7 package ?
[05:46] <eod_punk> I can view it when going through the gui but if i try to use the cli i just get an empty document as well
[05:46] <Healot> ... /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> mind the capital X
[05:46] <eod_punk> Healot, you rock
[05:46] <Roh81> Eeep. Thats a little too much all at once. x_x
[05:46] <computer13137> [10:43]  computer13137: Hello.  I need to download makefile for my Ubuntu box, but the Ubuntu box doesn't have an internet connection.  I can transfer it from a Windows box to the Ubuntu box through a pen drive, but I need a download link.  Google has not helped.  Where can I download the makefile program and gcc?
[05:47] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu DD set up on a computer with an ATI card?  When I run the live disc to install it tells me that it cannot load X because of video issues.  When I run the install in safe graphics mode, my screen goes blank and my monitor gets no signal.  It's an ATI X850XT
[05:47] <eod_punk> I always forget the caps
[05:47] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: the X had to be capitalized
[05:47] <Red-Sox> oh
[05:47] <jmichaelx> Sysinfo for 'kubuntu2': Linux 2.6.15-26-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: PentiumIII(Katmai) at 498 MHz (998 bogomips), , RAM: 327/376MB, 99 proc's, 14.1h up
[05:47] <eod_punk> i feel like a dumbass lol
[05:47] <Red-Sox> thanks Healot
[05:47] <Red-Sox> >.<
[05:47] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu DD set up on a computer with an ATI card?  When I run the live disc to install it tells me that it cannot load X because of video issues.  When I run the install in safe graphics mode, my screen goes blank and my monitor gets no signal.  It's an ATI X850XT PCI-E
[05:48] <jjjjjjj> how do i turn off all these 'joeblow user has joined' messages in xchat?
[05:48] <Red-Sox> Okay, so what do I change eod_punk ?
[05:48] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, do you know what your screen is capable of?
[05:48] <Red-Sox> 1020x800 or whatever
[05:49] <brian98> !VLC
[05:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:49] <eod_punk> down towards the bottom you'll see the resolutions listed you need to add it in there.  You might also have to list a refresh rate as well, not sure
[05:50] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: to each one?
[05:50] <eod_punk> i believe so
[05:50] <godfather> guys
[05:51] <godfather> it seems that mozilla-player works well
[05:52] <Jimmey> !RestrictedFormats
[05:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:53] <opexoc> Does anyone tell is there any possibilities to know what repository should I add to /etc/apt/sources.list If I know that the file I want to donwloaded is in http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/libdevel/libsnmp5-dev .
[05:53] <MinisterPolite> opexoc:  should be in universe
[05:54] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, i'll be back
[05:55] <pianoboy3333> anyone here use the fish shell?
[05:55] <jjjjjjj> nope
[05:56] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, have any luck?  i got mine to work
[05:56] <PuGz> hey guys. How goes it?
[05:56] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: no
[05:56] <Red-Sox> no luck
[05:56] <PuGz> i just read about the new init system for ubuntu - sounds cool! And it might be in edgy!
[05:56] <eod_punk> did you sudo to get to the file?
[05:57] <PuGz> http://www.netsplit.com/blog/work/canonical/upstart.html
[05:58] <looktj> hi
[05:58] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: yeah
[05:58] <PuGz> looktj: yo
[05:59] <jjjjjjj> well my edubuntu-desktop has finished d/l ing .  guess i should close all my apps.
[05:59] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, just add to every line in the resolutions "1920x2000" or what ever your resolution is that your tring to add
[05:59] <looktj> who the dude that helped me with vmware?
[05:59] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: I did
[05:59] <Red-Sox> kinda
[05:59] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, save and close it
[05:59] <Red-Sox> I replaced 1024x768 with that
[05:59] <Red-Sox> :)
[06:00] <Red-Sox> I've saved it but I haven't closed it
[06:00] <desconhecidocdm> heelo
[06:00] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, thats fine as long as its in ""
[06:00] <Red-Sox> it is
[06:00] <eod_punk> now close it and then restart X
[06:00] <desconhecidocdm> how i take a new ubuntu ??
[06:00] <Nookie^> !mencoder
[06:00] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 2912 kB, installed size 7004 kB
[06:00] <Red-Sox> oh restart x
[06:01] <Red-Sox> how do I do restart X?
[06:01] <Red-Sox> !restartx
[06:01] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:01] <aLPHa_LeaK> Red-Sox: alt-gr and backspace
[06:01] <eod_punk> I logged out then while lookking at the log in prompt hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:01] <Red-Sox> aLPHa_LeaK: gr?
[06:01] <aLPHa_LeaK> i think so
[06:01] <Red-Sox> what is gr?
[06:01] <aLPHa_LeaK> or ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:02] <aLPHa_LeaK> Red-Sox: the button on the right of the space bar
[06:02] <jmichaelx> will xgl/compiz work alright with an ATI video card?
[06:02] <PuGz> jmichaelx: i just had it running then
[06:02] <eod_punk> I forget who pointed out the gramma error in or path name but thanks again
[06:02] <PuGz> jmichaelx: i have ati card using fglrx
[06:03] <Nookie^> !mplayer
[06:03] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[06:03] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:03] <jmichaelx> PuGz: ok, i am just using ati..... my card is old enough , i am not sure fglrx would work
[06:03] <PuGz> jmichaelx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[06:03] <engx> hi every body how can i add new font into ubuntu?
[06:03] <jmichaelx> PuGz: ty
[06:04] <godfather> guys tnx for your help
[06:04] <Healot> !font
[06:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:04] <godfather> good bye
[06:05] <LookTJ> !logs
[06:06] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:06] <tarkowski> hi, i have a question: i've just deleted by accident all files in the /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net catalog (this is my current kernel). what do i do to fix this?
[06:06] <Jimmey> !xgl
[06:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:06] <sunnz2> How do I make samba such that it always create files with permisson of 700?
[06:06] <jmichaelx> when i lspci, this is the infor i get: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)
[06:07] <jmichaelx> would anyone know if xgl/compiz will work with that card?
[06:07] <PuGz> jmichaelx: check ati.com
[06:07] <PuGz> jmichaelx: they have a page for their linux drivers etc
[06:07] <engx> how can i add new font into ubuntu?
[06:07] <jmichaelx> ok, thnx again
[06:07] <PuGz> np
[06:08] <PuGz> jmichaelx: or you could just try using fglrx with normal X and see if that works
[06:08] <PuGz> if it does, you may be able to then get xgl working using that wiki page
[06:08] <engx> any donkey here?
[06:08] <LookTJ> where's chell?
[06:08] <jmichaelx> ok this will take some experimenting lol
[06:08] <earthian> hello
[06:10] <earthian> >.<
[06:10] <earthian> my computers locks when trying to logout/shutdown/restart/etc
[06:10] <earthian> monitor turns off
[06:10] <earthian> and all stuff is not responding!!!
[06:10] <earthian> help
[06:11] <earthian> can somebody help me regarding that BUG ?
[06:12] <earthian> i saw there there are stuff in forums regarding this.. i do not know however if it is the same thing
[06:12] <unfun> Sometime ago xserver-core someting caused problems, Is it safe to install it now?
[06:12] <erUSUL> tarkowski: reinstall the kernel package??
[06:12] <erUSUL> unfun: yes
[06:12] <unfun> are you sure?
[06:12] <unfun> :P
[06:13] <earthian> :S
[06:13] <jatt> my machine obtains its IP address with DHCP. I run dhclient manually. Is there a script to do this automatically at boot time? Or must I write my own script and put it in /etc/init.d? (the script would very simple, just one line).
[06:13] <jwl007> !wireless
[06:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:13] <Red-Sox> OMG
[06:13] <Red-Sox> Okay
[06:13] <Red-Sox> what's the command to set your res to something different?
[06:14] <opexoc> Can anyone show my how should see complete list of repositories in /etc/atp/sources.list ?
[06:14] <erUSUL> jatt: /etc/network/interfaces <--- 'man interfaces'
[06:14] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, system-prefes-screen resolution
[06:14] <Warbo> Has anyone used streamripper? It keeps remaking a folder "Streamripper_rips" in my home, even though I keep removing it and I can't see anything suspicious in "ps ax"
[06:14] <erUSUL> opexoc: less /etc/atp/sources.list
[06:14] <jmichaelx> Jack_Sparrow: may i send you a private message?
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[06:15] <erUSUL> earthian: take a look at the system logs for a clue of what may be happening
[06:15] <opexoc> erUSUL: I want some complete list... my list is incomplete...
[06:15] <earthian> :S
[06:15] <earthian> i could show you the log maybe? erUSUL ?
[06:15] <Centaur5> Dapper no longer boots as of yesterday it just says Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: no such device and the last line says target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. What can I do?
[06:15] <erUSUL> !easysource > opexoc
[06:15] <Red-Sox> eod_punk: I need a command
[06:15] <Red-Sox> COMMAND for changing resolution
[06:15] <eod_punk> oh sorry not sure about that
[06:15] <Red-Sox> :)
[06:15] <Red-Sox> ;)
[06:16] <Healot> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > Red-Sox
[06:16] <Red-Sox> *whispers to ShoeUnited*
[06:16] <Red-Sox> mind a PM?
[06:16] <Warbo> Oops, it is actually still running!
[06:17] <erUSUL> earthian: there are a few log files (mainly messages, syslog and Xorg.0.log in /var/log/) i can not read them all for you sorry just open them with 'less' go to the end and search backwards for errors
[06:17] <opexoc> erUSUL:  " !easysource > opexoc ". I don't understand your tips.
[06:17] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, i think its xrandr
[06:18] <Red-Sox> xrandr
[06:18] <Red-Sox> oops
[06:18] <Red-Sox> How do i get to a new terminal?
[06:18] <PuGz> hey guys... how can i get grep to output those lines that don't match?
[06:18] <Red-Sox> I'm in irssi right now
[06:18] <PuGz> (inverse output from grep)?
[06:18] <eod_punk> are you cli only?
[06:18] <opexoc> PuGz: grep -v
[06:18] <Red-Sox> GAR
[06:19] <Red-Sox> am I stuck in irssi?
[06:19] <PuGz> opexoc: thank you
[06:19] <eod_punk> i would think you calould open a second termin
[06:19] <erUSUL> opexoc: have you seen the ubotu pm ??
[06:19] <Red-Sox> how?
[06:19] <erUSUL> !easysource
[06:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:19] <PuGz> Red-Sox: are you in gnome or a tty1 console?
[06:20] <opexoc> erUSUL: what is ubuntu pm?
[06:21] <Jamminpotato> i have a problem, when i click the search button on google.com nothing happens, same with the button in wikipeida and most buttons like that
[06:22] <sethk> Jamminpotato, have you tried two different browsers to see if the problem is in the browser?
[06:22] <parfaitg> helo
[06:22] <erUSUL> opexoc: ubotu is a bot when i type '!easysource > opexoc' it should pm you (sen a private msg) with the text you've seen in the channel
[06:22] <erUSUL> !ubotu
[06:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:22] <Jamminpotato> sethk, no i think i'd need to install another browser one sec
[06:22] <parfaitg> helo
[06:22] <parfaitg> how are u
[06:23] <davy_boy98> hi there, could anyone plz give me a hand setting up WPA wifi
[06:23] <erUSUL> !tell opexoc about ubotu
[06:23] <earthian> how to enable timer log in Xorg.0.log ????
[06:23] <earthian> like it is in syslog..
[06:23] <eod_punk> is there a way to open a new terminal from within a terminal?
[06:23] <opexoc> erUSUL: ooo... I don't know about it...
[06:23] <Warbo> eod_punk: "gnome-terminal" maybe? That will open a new terminal window, not a tab
[06:23] <eod_punk> k
[06:24] <opexoc> !easysource > opexoc
[06:24] <sethk> eod_punk, several.  you can open a new window, a new tab, etc.
[06:24] <eod_punk> davy_boy98, is your wireless working?
[06:24] <sethk> eod_punk, there are menu commands to do it, and of course you can do it from the command line
[06:24] <godfather> bye
[06:24] <erUSUL> opexoc: use '/msg ubotu easysource'
[06:24] <opexoc> erUSUL: ok... thanks
[06:24] <sethk> eod_punk, there is also a button to click; the default for that button is new tab but can be changed to new window
[06:24] <rcmiv> is there an easy way to share an external usb drive (samba), from winXP, it tells me I have insufficient permissions to view it
[06:25] <sethk> rcmiv, look at the uid= and gid= options to mount, in man mount
[06:25] <eod_punk> thanks sethk
[06:25] <sethk> rcmiv, there is also a howto floating around.
[06:25] <ubuntux1> i wanna prelink only firefox in kubuntu....how do i do this?
[06:26] <rcmiv> sethk, thanks
[06:26] <jjjjjjj> well i "upgraded" ubuntu to edubuntu and now i only got a resolution of 640x480 with no other setting!
[06:27] <jjjjjjj> how can i change the resolution when no other sizes are available?
[06:27] <dj_baggio> what is minimal settings for xubuntu?
[06:27] <Lobster> moin
[06:28] <sethk> jjjjjjj, reconfigure.  run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:28] <jjjjjjj> you da man sethk
[06:28] <Healot> requirement, you mean, dj_baggio?
[06:28] <dj_baggio> Healot: exactly :)
[06:28] <eli_with_a_name> hey everyone, anyone here know much about vnc connection over internet?
[06:28] <Red-Sox> I'm in the failsafe console and i need to opne a new one
[06:29] <Healot> 128MB of RAM, minimum, pentium cpu or higher is recommended...
[06:29] <ompaul> dj_baggio, for a reasonable setup I had set up a 500Mhz P3 with 128megs of ram and 8meg video card it was a slow launching firefox and ooo but it moved along rather well once they were running
[06:29] <sethk> UbunTUX, if you mean make firefox the default browser app, go to kde control center, file associations
[06:29] <eli_with_a_name> Im trying to connect with someone on vnc and it's not working
[06:29] <dj_baggio> and how much MB in hard disk?
[06:29] <abhinay> how to change the screen resolution of login screen ?
[06:29] <Healot> the xubuntu alternate cd can install with ram lower than 64MB
[06:29] <eli_with_a_name> i have tried to ping the address of the computer i want to hook up with and it's not even responding
[06:29] <Warbo> abhinay: login screen always uses the highest resolution that X has
[06:29] <dj_baggio> 1GB or more?
[06:30] <sethk> eli_with_a_name, if you can't ping, you can't do anything else.  but remember pings are dropped in  many routers, so ping failing may not mean anything at all
[06:30] <ompaul> dj_baggio, to be functional you need about 2.8 gigs minimum but closer 9 makes for a reasonable work horse
[06:30] <Red-Sox> OKAY
[06:30] <Red-Sox> now I need a command to change the res
[06:30] <Healot> dj_baggio: ranging from 300MB for server install, and more for desktop (xfce) install, the more the merrier, dj_baggio
[06:30] <eli_with_a_name> sethk: would that mean that I cannot connect with the computer via vnc then?
[06:30] <Red-Sox> now I have two terms open
[06:31] <dj_baggio> hmm
[06:31] <UbunTUX> sethk: Hello my friend
[06:31] <lost_sou1> wondering, how can I configure eggdrop with ssl support on ubuntu
[06:31] <sethk> eli_with_a_name, no.  pings are blocked for security reasons; it means that the fact that you can't ping doesn't tell us anything much.
[06:31] <dj_baggio> a lot :) - but less near Windows :)
[06:31] <sethk> UbunTUX, hello
[06:31] <UbunTUX> sethk: I'm not speeak english, I'm from Brazil ehhehehehehe
[06:31] <eli_with_a_name> sethk: thanks
[06:31] <clearzen> @eli It depends. I would think your network it not setup properly
[06:31] <sethk> eli_with_a_name, where is the computer to which you are connecting?
[06:31] <eod_punk> xrandr
[06:32] <eli_with_a_name> clearzen: on my end or on the other computer's end?
[06:32] <ad> hey people - something really weird just happened. Using Avidemux and all sound disappeared from EVERYTHING in ubuntu!? any ideas? tried rebooting and still same...
[06:32] <reitzell> Hello, I'd like to get dual monitors working on my Ubuntu drapper drake box? I have an Nvidia 7900gt
[06:32] <clearzen> can you ping the router?
[06:32] <eli_with_a_name> no, i have not tried that
[06:32] <dj_baggio> ok
[06:32] <eli_with_a_name> let me try
[06:32] <eggman> reitzell:  id be interested in that too
[06:32] <ad> reitzell: I've got dual monitors working beautifully
[06:32] <dj_baggio> thx for infomation :)
[06:32] <clearzen> try it and tell me the result
[06:32] <Red-Sox> can't open display (null)
[06:32] <ad> reitzell: got twin outputs?
[06:33] <lost_sou1> any ideas
[06:33] <eggman> ad: yes he does
[06:33] <reitzell> :)
[06:33] <sethk> reitzell, it's just a matter of setting up your xorg.conf file correctly
[06:34] <reitzell> OK, how do I set it up?
[06:34] <sethk> reitzell, there are howto docs for it.  With nvidia, you also have the option of using their proprietary twinview, but I prefer to use the open source xinerama
[06:34] <eggman> im listening
[06:34] <ad> :) there's an nvidia version of xvidtune
[06:34] <Healot> !display
[06:34] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:34] <lost_sou1> where is openssl located in ubuntu
[06:34] <ad> for twinview - works great for me
[06:34] <eod_punk> Red-Sox, don't think i can help you to much with it, still pretty new
[06:35] <sethk> Red-Sox, check that your DISPLAY environment variable is set.
[06:35] <eod_punk> not sure what options there are for it
[06:35] <eod_punk> i think sethk knowws everything lol (j/k thanks)
[06:35] <sethk> Red-Sox, if it isn't set (which is probably what that message means), set it to :0.0
[06:35] <sethk> Red-Sox, as in   export DISPLAY=:0.0
[06:36] <reitzell> thanks I'll look for a howto
[06:36] <sethk> I have to take a support call, I'll be back as soon as I'm off.
[06:36] <opexoc> How can I fast remove all duplicated repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:36] <gil> i need help././//
[06:36] <eod_punk> who was that masked man?
[06:36] <Red-Sox> sethk: how?
[06:36] <gil> how do i copy protect a CD that i made in Dapper
[06:36] <Warbo> opexoc: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:36] <Warbo> that's all I can think of
[06:36] <ad> reitzell: i reckon it's easier to use twinview but xinerama is the open source choice
[06:37] <Red-Sox> brb
[06:37] <Warbo> (although "sed" can work wonders for those who know how to use it)
[06:37] <Red-Sox> D'OH
[06:37] <reitzell> I'm up for "easy"-- I'm lazy like that
[06:37] <Red-Sox> ctrl alt backspace won't even work
[06:37] <eod_punk> i had to use ctrl alt shift baskspace
[06:37] <opexoc> Warbo: I want some fast method, automatic method.
[06:37] <ad> reitzell: try running nvidia-xconfig, made me a nice xorg.conf file automatically
[06:37] <idl> Hi, I've just shared a folder via the nautilus context menu.... but wha'ts the username and password for it?
[06:37] <opexoc> How can I fast remove all duplicated repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:38] <clearzen> @Red-soX    drop into a command line and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:38] <reitzell> ad: with the dual monitor stuff?
[06:38] <Warbo> opexoc: Someone very 1337 might tell you how to do it with sed, but I don't have a clue how to use it
[06:38] <davy_boy98> how can i config WPA WIFI??
[06:38] <eod_punk> brb
[06:38] <ad> anyone any idea why all sound would stop working after using Avidemux?
[06:39] <opexoc> Warbo: who?
[06:39] <sethk> opexoc, sort -u /etc/apt/sources.list > new-sources.list
[06:39] <sethk> opexoc, then, copy the modified file to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <sethk> opexoc, back up the old one first
[06:39] <ad> ANYone, ANY idea why all sound would stop?
[06:39] <sethk> opexoc, there aren't a lot of lines, you can do the job by hand with an editor in a few minutes, and it is better because sort will reorder the file
[06:40] <clearzen> @ad yeah it could be loading a new sound module over an existing one
[06:40] <clearzen> hard to say though
[06:40] <clearzen> lsmod | grep sound might show you
[06:40] <gil> i want to copy protect a copy i made of a CD
[06:40] <gil> does anyone know how to do that...
[06:40] <sethk> ad, possibly /dev/dsp, with is a symbolic link, is now pointed at the wrong device
[06:41] <sethk> ad, sorry, have to go for a bit
[06:41] <ad> clearzen: lsmod | grep sound gives me - soundcore              10208  1 snd - mean anything to u?
[06:41] <Healot> gil: what type of CD did you master
[06:41] <ad> sethk: no worries, cheers
[06:42] <clearzen> it means you only have 1 sound module loaded
[06:42] <ad> which is ok?
[06:42] <graft> hey y'all - i have thi smachine that sits just outside my firewall (on a switch between a router and my cable modem - is there any way i can get services on it recognized by avahi?
[06:42] <GigaClon> is there a program that would let me extract msi file without using wine
[06:42] <clearzen> yeah it looks like it is
[06:42] <gil> Healot: thanks. I have an audio image/clone that i want to copy protect....
[06:42] <unfu1> How do I test my internet speed?
[06:42] <gil> i know how to do that in windows
[06:42] <bionoid> Um what's the shortcut for moving between workspaces on standard release?
[06:43] <gil> but need some help here in Dapper
[06:43] <eli_with_a_name> clearzen: i cannot find out the router ip address. I tried to trace it, but it just comes up blank
[06:43] <nox-Hand> Hey
[06:43] <Hype_> hi
[06:43] <ad> clearzen: any ideqa about  /dev/dsp that sethk mentioned?
[06:43] <Sttutter> i have a thawte certificate for firefox...how do i import it into evolution to sign emails?
[06:43] <Healot> gil: usually you need a 3rd party application for that...
[06:43] <gonniff> howdy
[06:43] <Sttutter> the evolution helpfile says check the mozilla helpfile...which mentions nothing about it :P
[06:43] <eli_with_a_name> its part of a large university network, that the computer is connected with
[06:43] <cius> is it possible to chroot into your root partition from the livecd and run grub-install to reinstall grub into the mbr?
[06:43] <gil> Healot: yes i know....but they almost all works on clone cd images only
[06:44] <gonniff> is there anyway to make a remote desktop connection *to* an ubuntu machine from XP other than VNC?
[06:44] <Hype_> after installing MoBlock , followinf his how-to ,http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192559&highlight=peerguardian,
[06:44] <Healot> some DRM-based application to encrypt CD content, as GNU/Linux is libre, we don't have that :)
[06:44] <gil> i rather not run a wine app
[06:44] <Hype_> i try to remove it, and now i have no more connxion:s
[06:44] <unfu1> How do I see how fast my internet is?
[06:44] <gil> i want a native linux program
[06:44] <opexoc> sethk: thx
[06:45] <davy_boy98> can anyone shed some light on WPA WIFI?
[06:45] <clearzen> @gonniff yes use putty (ie ssh)
[06:45] <cius> and if so, what would I pass as the device argument to grub-install?
[06:45] <Jack_Sparrow> eli_with_a_name: You did try the basic 192.168.0.1 ?
[06:45] <covOPprometheus> davy_boy98, where are you at?
[06:45] <abhinay> unfu1, http://home.vcn.com/speedtest.php to check your internet speed
[06:45] <nox-Hand> How do I play a CD from cli?
[06:45] <gonniff> clearzen, but that won't give me the desktop, will it? I thought that only gives a console connection
[06:45] <eli_with_a_name> didnt do that, thanks Jack_Sparrow
[06:45] <eli_with_a_name> brb
[06:45] <clearzen> that's true
[06:46] <gonniff> I really need to have a desktop connection
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> eli_with_a_name: or 192.168.1.1 ?
[06:46] <eod_punk> back
[06:46] <carl> Silly question guys... how do I install a deb package that I have downloaded and is residing on my desktop?
[06:46] <Healot> sudo dpkg -i filename
[06:46] <jbroome_> sudo dpkg -i pkg.deb
[06:46] <ad> reitzell: yes, if yr vga card has 2 outputs it will work it out (if yr lucky ;)
[06:46] <carl> thanks
[06:47] <ad> any ideas of starting points for troubleshooting sound suddenly ceasing?
[06:47] <LookTJ> anyone got english giam here?
[06:47] <Hype_> any idea about looing connexion after unsintall of MobLock?
[06:47] <davy_boy98> covOPprometheus, i have the driver installed using ndiswrapper.. now i need a hand with the rest of the config
[06:47] <graft> is that a kind that comes with tea and crumpets, LookTJ, or do you just mean normal gaim?
[06:47] <eli_with_a_name> Jack_Sparrow: that's the ip address that you would ping of you're part of network correct?
[06:48] <Jimmey> I need some help with Grub
[06:48] <eli_with_a_name> Im trying to connect to a computer from outside that network
[06:48] <covOPprometheus> davy_boy98, what driver did you use and what card/chipset/computer you have?
[06:48] <nox-Hand> Anyone? CD playing in cli?
[06:48] <graft> ad: do your speakers work?
[06:48] <ad> LookTJ: Gaim? yes
[06:48] <Jimmey> I've got Windows installed on hdb, and it won't boot - Does this need to be the primary disk
[06:48] <RedRose> HELP! my xorg is broken
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> eli_with_a_name: that is the basic address of the config screen of most routers.. If I put that in my browser I get the "Page" for my router
[06:49] <RedRose> I tried to install xgl and now GDm won't start up
[06:49] <Sttutter> how do i import a security certificate into evolution to sign emails?
[06:49] <Anderson> Hey, how are you all doing?
[06:49] <Jimmey> Jack_Sparrow, do you play ET?
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> eli_with_a_name: Sorry if I am not clear, I was up all night with our 14 week old puppy
[06:49] <LookTJ> what is the login server for icq giam?
[06:49] <eli_with_a_name> Jack_Sparrow: right, how would i figure that out from the outside though?
[06:49] <ketsugi|zzZ> How do I enable sound in Wine?
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Jimmey: no, sorry not much of a gamer
[06:49] <Jimmey> What happens if the disk Windows is installed on isn't the primary disk in the computer?
[06:49] <len> hi
[06:50] <eli_with_a_name> Jack_Sparrow: np =-)
[06:50] <Jimmey> Jack_Sparrow, thought I'd seen you around..
[06:50] <len> how can I 'unzip' files .rar?
[06:50] <RedRose> !xorg
[06:50] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Jimmey: Probably a popular nick
[06:50] <Healot> !info unrar
[06:50] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:50] <davy_boy98> covOPprometheus, i am using a Linksys WPC54g v5 with the latest windows version of the drivers
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar
[06:50] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:50] <len> ty Healot
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !unrar-free
[06:50] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[06:50] <Healot> RAWR
[06:50] <rntkr> !info unrar-free
[06:50] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[06:51] <RedRose> can anyone help me?
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[06:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:51] <Healot> !ask
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[06:51] <Anderson> Does apt-get source pkg1 download the debian source package?
[06:51] <cius> how can I reinstall grub to my main drive's MBR from teh live-cd?
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Anderson: !grub
[06:52] <Healot> the ubuntunized debian-style source
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[06:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:52] <Healot> complicated :)
[06:52] <cius> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, that helps me too
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:52] <spuddogg_> YES!!
[06:52] <Jack_Sparrow> cius: there is also the super grub repair cd
[06:53] <bluesign> anyone can suggest a gui tool for mysql?
[06:53] <clearzen> @REDROSE are you still there?
[06:53] <spuddogg_> I finally got my comp to work with ubuntu, ATI X-series card, and dual-booted...sweet!
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> cius: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[06:53] <brian98> quick question for quick answer, does the junk filter work in evolution or am I missing something !!!
[06:53] <rbowell> Hi, normally when i close gaim or amarok the process still runs in the background and an icon of the application is left at the top righ pannel next to the clock.  Any way i managed to delete them and i want them back . Does anyone here know how ?
[06:53] <brian98> ?
[06:54] <_lupine>  ndiswrapper - version from Ubuntu CD: 1.8-0ubuntu2. From sourceforge: 1.23
[06:54] <Anderson> Does the install cd come with the kernel source?
[06:54] <MinisterPolite> rbowell: you weren't closing either, rather minimizing them to the tray.. when you say you've manged to delete them, how did you go about doing this? did you simply remove the tray?
[06:54] <Healot> Anderson: no
[06:55] <gonniff> well, I hate to say it, but I've decided to opt for VNC for my remote desktop to Ubuntu
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel
[06:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:55] <gonniff> Just have never been that big a fan
[06:55] <Healot> the source is available at the Internet repos
[06:55] <brian98> bluesign: there used to be a thing called mysql front butmysql-ab forced them to stop selling
[06:55] <drbair> are there any decent graphing applications for linux?
[06:55] <brian98> bluesign: you could always use php-mysql
[06:55] <rbowell> Hi, normally when i close gaim or amarok the process still runs in the background and an icon of the application is left at the top righ pannel next to the clock.  Any way i managed to delete them and i want them back . Does anyone here know how ?
[06:55] <brian98> I think thats what it's called.
[06:55] <Healot> bluesign: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html >> download the linux version
[06:55] <eli_with_a_name> hey everyone, could vnc be blocked by a firewall on a router for a computer?
[06:55] <bluesign> brian98: thanks
[06:56] <bluesign> healot: thanks
[06:56] <MinisterPolite> rbowell:  scroll up, i just answered your question. don't repeat
[06:56] <brian98> bluesign: better :)
[06:56] <auk_> rbowell: applications -> internet -> gaim
[06:56] <Hype_> please need help with MobLock : post is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192559&page=15&highlight=peerguardian
[06:56] <drbair> eli_with_a_name: of course
[06:56] <jmichaelx> i have a PC that has xubuntu on it... i want to add windows 2000 to that machine, but on a second hard drive (as this machine currently onlay has an 8G HD)...  if i install win2000 to the second HD, will i need to recover grub on the first HD?
[06:56] <Jack_Sparrow> eli_with_a_name: I would think the school could block anything they chose to block
[06:56] <Healot> !find mysql
[06:56] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libdbd-mysql-perl, nagios-mysql, python-mysqldb, python2.4-mysqldb (and 81 others)
[06:56] <eli_with_a_name> drbair: that means I gotta get creative port numbers?
[06:57] <Healot> !find mysql-gui
[06:57] <ubotu> Package/file mysql-gui does not exist in dapper
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jmichaelx: It can be done.. yes
[06:57] <drbair> eli_with_a_name: just need to forward the proper port on the router
[06:57] <jmichaelx> i am sure the way i asked that question was silly, but i hope you can get the point
[06:57] <brian98> does the junk filter work in evolution or am I missing something ?
[06:57] <eli_with_a_name> drbair and Jack_Sparrow thank you both your help
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:58] <jmichaelx> Jack_Sparrow: would you know of any doc that would cover such a thing?
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jmichaelx: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html   may come in handy
[06:58] <jmichaelx> i realize it is probably unusual
[06:58] <jmichaelx> ty
[06:58] <rbowell> Hi, normally when i close gaim or amarok the process still runs in the background and an icon of the application is left at the top righ pannel next to the clock.  Any way i managed to delete them and i want them back . Does anyone here know how ?
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> NOt unusual.. just put windows as first os on the first drive, windows is happier there
[06:59] <sethk> jmichaelx, not unusual at all.  answer is yes, but it isn't difficult to do.
[06:59] <sethk> jmichaelx, there is a doc specifically for that.  someone pasted it here a few minutes ago
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[06:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:59] <jmichaelx> ok, thanks again for all of the help, i think i have what i need here
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jmichaelx: THe super grub reapir works easier when adding a second drive. etc..
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jmichaelx: You can always use windows to come back and ask questions
[07:00] <jmichaelx> Jack_Sparrow: i can see how that would probably be the case. i will probably give that a try
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jmichaelx: It is a bootable cd that checks all drives and combinations of os's and trys to set them up for you
[07:01] <jmichaelx> Jack_Sparrow: i think that is exactly what i need
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> jmichaelx: Kinda thought so..
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> jmichaelx: and thanks for our discussion earlier
[07:02] <spuddogg_> anyone here running ubuntu 64bit?
[07:03] <jmichaelx> Jack_Sparrow: more than welcome
[07:03] <davy_boy98> covOPprometheus, any help u can give would be greatly appreciated!
[07:03] <elhaxxorz> Hey guys... I'm on the liveCD for dapper cause I borked my kernel. Can someone help?
[07:04] <lupine_85> how did you break it? ;)
[07:05] <foo> foo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ... why doesn't this visudo entry work? It still prompts me for my password.
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I would like to stress the importance of a backup.  It just takes a minute to type one line in a terminal.  It can save you hours or work and frustration.
[07:05] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: i ran out of space on /boot by downloading the k7 kernel image
[07:05] <lupine_85> so /boot is a separate partition?
[07:05] <elhaxxorz> yes
[07:06] <ephemeros> http://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/index.php?page=packages&lang=en - found a cool repo
[07:06] <Fleebailey33> does anyone know why i can't add mp3's to my ipod with gtkpod. am i missing a library?
[07:06] <lupine_85> ok, so can you mount your HD filesystem as it would normally be?
[07:06] <Glombool> Anyone have any luck installing EGroupware from the repository?  I tried installing it and I have no idea where it went.
[07:07] <lupine_85> (e.g. /media/root/boot would be your /dev/hda1, or whatever)
[07:07] <Glombool> >>Fleebailey33  try amarok :)
[07:07] <lupine_85> if you can get it all mounted somewhere, you can chroot into it and apt-get remove the k7 kernel image
[07:07] <lupine_85> another alternative is resizing the /boot partition, but that's likely to be more hassle
[07:08] <osdai> #join ubuntu-es
[07:08] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone here use the fish shell?
[07:11] <Glombool> !egroupware
[07:11] <ubotu> egroupware: web-based groupware suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0.009.dfsg-3-4 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB
[07:11] <jjjjjjj> well it took a while but i got the rez back to 1024x768 under edubuntu... thanks sethk
[07:12] <davy_boy98> can anyone shed some light on WPA WIFI?
[07:12] <lupine_85> !wpa
[07:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !WPA
[07:12] <lupine_85> snap ;)
[07:12] <jjjjjjj> wpa is encryption.  both nic and router must support it.
[07:13] <davy_boy98> yea got all that. any ideas on configuring it?
[07:13] <jjjjjjj> only from a router setup.  sorry davy-boy
[07:13] <davy_boy98> the device and router both support wpa, and i have the drivers install for the device (ndiswrapper)
[07:14] <AlexC> Hey
[07:14] <atoponce> where are fonts installed?
[07:14] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: /me got booted offline for a sec, sorry
[07:14] <Glombool> Anyone here running egroupware?
[07:14] <AlexC> Is it possible to have different Backgrounds/Wallpapers for the different Desktop's under XGL/Compiz and Ubuntu ?
[07:14] <lupine_85> elhaxxorz: np. Did you get my note about chroot ?
[07:14] <gnomefreak> AlexC: for xgl questions please ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:15] <AlexC> gnomefreak, well - it's more a Gnome qustion I guess
[07:15] <atoponce> ~/.fonts?
[07:15] <Pulshion> Im trying to use mencoder and everytime i output a file it does not start and gives me an error
[07:15] <gnomefreak> AlexC: not once you install xgl  it takes over for xorg
[07:15] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: hda1 is mounted on /mnt/boot, and hda3 is mounted onto /mnt/ubuntu...did not get the note..want me to 'chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash'?
[07:15] <Pulshion> Im trying to use mencoder and everytime i output a file it does not start and gives me an error. Can somebody help me, all im trying to do is convert avi to wmv
[07:17] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why when I try to play a DVD (or probably anything for that matter) with 4.0 and up audio set in xine it says "Audio device unavailable. Device is Busy()"?
[07:17] <lupine_85> elhaxxorz: first get your boot partition mounted on /mnt/ubuntu/boot
[07:18] <lupine_85> mount any other partitions in the 'correct' place as well
[07:18] <lupine_85> then chroot into it
[07:18] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: done, but says 100% full
[07:19] <dterrell> Anyone: I'm trying to figure out how to show a login banner in any of 4 or 5 different window managers in a lab environment.  I would like to show information pertaining to quotas and such.  Can anyone point me at such docs or help me out?
[07:19] <Glench> anyone know what this theme is? http://getswiftfox.com/images/swiftfox.jpg
[07:19] <juan> is there a comand to make my computer beep
[07:19] <Anderson> can I compile a 2.6.15-23 kernel on a 2.6.15-26 system?
[07:19] <dterrell> juan: beep, search aptitude
[07:19] <elhaxxorz> how do i chroot into boot?
[07:20] <juan> bash: beep: command not found
[07:20] <dterrell> p   beep                            - advanced pc-speaker beeper
[07:20] <s0can> I just downloaded dapper drake and it fails the data integrity test; I tried two mirrors with the same results
[07:21] <MikeyMike> can anyone help me convert an mpg to something smaller... maybe using some kind of compression? possibly?
[07:21] <opexoc> what does make command "apt-get -f install" ?
[07:21] <elhaxxorz> s0can: might be your burner then
[07:21] <minerale> where can I download the human icons theme ?
[07:21] <s0can> I tried two different pcs and used two different burner programs
[07:22] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: what chroot command do you want me to make?
[07:22] <foo> Er, my screen flickers in X. I have tried the radeon and ati drivers. I have a 19" CRT with an ATI Radeon 7000 card. This computer dual boots into windows and there is no flicker, so it's not the monitor or the video card. It is something with X. I've spent 12+ hours troubleshooting this and it is really annoying. Knoppix does it too.
[07:22] <foo> Any ideas?
[07:23] <dterrell> foo: check your refresh rate?
[07:23] <eugman> What's the best program to make a greeting card?
[07:23] <creyon> juan: echo -e "\a"
[07:23] <foo> dterrell: horizontal and vertical refresh are set correctly.
[07:23] <jbroome> eugman: apt-get install hallmark-store
[07:24] <dterrell> foo: I find the lower range of refresh (like 60hz) I can see a flicker...how bad is the flicker?
[07:24] <eugman> Sweet, I was hoping there was a specialized program
[07:24] <ubuntu> o
[07:24] <ubuntu> yo
[07:24] <MinisterPolite> mmmhmmm
[07:24] <namename> can anyone help me
[07:25] <foo> dterrell: It's very annoying. Where do I set like 60hz? HorizSync       30-96 and VertRefresh     50-160 is what I have.
[07:25] <FunnyLookinHat> namename: just ask your question and if someone knwos the answer we'll help
[07:25] <lupine_85>  elhaxxorz: chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash
[07:25] <lupine_85> IIRC
[07:25] <livingtm> I have been trying for days and cant get XGL running on dapper. If I put Xgl in my gdm,conf-custom, the screen goes blank and I get the text terminal back.
[07:25] <namename> I want to play a game that needs Java and I want the game to work on Ubuntu Linux.. where do i get the file to make it work..
[07:25] <FunnyLookinHat> !java
[07:25] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:25] <lupine_85> elhaxxorz: you'll probably have to sudo that as well.
[07:25] <dterrell> foo: in ubuntu go to System->Preferences->Screen Resolution and see if you can change the refresh there to something like 75hz
[07:25] <FRET> good evening
[07:26] <lupine_85> then you can use your native apt-get to remove some old kernels, or the new kernel, to get it working again
[07:26] <namename> the site isnt loading
[07:26] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: donenot probs, just came from gentoo lol
[07:26] <elhaxxorz> im there
[07:26] <s0can> I have tried two different CD burning programs (one on a windows laptop, one on a windows desktop), they both give me CDs that fail the integrity check for squashfs, and ideas?
[07:27] <minerale> could anyone tell me where the icons for the human theme are stored?>
[07:27] <jannis> http://www.klick-mich.da.cx/
[07:27] <jannis> http://www.klick-mich.da.cx/
[07:28] <dterrell> minerale, /usr/share/icons/Human ?
[07:28] <trans_err> what do I use to run a "hotplug" script now that hotplug has been deprecated?
[07:28] <dterrell> trans_err, coldplug?
[07:29] <minerale> dterrell: thanks
[07:29] <Pulshion> Does anyone use mencoder? Everytime i use it my output ends up a busted file, can somebody help please
[07:29] <trans_err> how would you do what was done with hotplug with udev and whatever else replaced it?
[07:29] <namename> yo
[07:29] <namename> the site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java isnt working
[07:29] <s0can> I have tried two different CD burning programs (one on a windows laptop, one on a windows desktop), they both give me CDs that fail the integrity check for squashfs, any suggestions?
[07:29] <namename> its not loading
[07:29] <namename> nvm
[07:29] <foo> dterrell: hm, ok. I'm in fluxbox, let me get into gnome to set that.
[07:29] <R0bin> How do I make my mobile accesable
[07:29] <Ziggy> dobby
[07:29] <R0bin> It's USB connected
[07:30] <dterrell> namename, it's working for me
[07:30] <foo> dterrell: hm, it's at 75 Hz already. This monitor is quicker than that, I think, though
[07:30] <dterrell> s0can, did you do the md5 check before burning?
[07:30] <namename> yea
[07:30] <namename> but
[07:30] <namename> i dono what to do
[07:30] <dterrell> foo, how bad is the flicker
[07:30] <namename> wat should i do
[07:30] <namename> on the site
[07:31] <dterrell> namename, not exactly sure what you're asking
[07:31] <MinisterPolite> !ubotu tell namename about enter
[07:31] <namename> i need java
[07:31] <namename> for ubuntu linux
[07:31] <R0bin> How do I tell Ubuntu that a drive is friendly and let's me write on it?!
[07:31] <jjjjjjj> well I'm about to u/g to 6.06
[07:31] <eugman> jbroome, I must not have the appropriate repository. Where would I find it?
[07:31] <dterrell> namename, rtfm is about all I could say
[07:31] <namename> rtfm
[07:31] <R0bin> How do I tell Ubuntu that a drive is friendly and let's me write on it?!
[07:32] <namename> wth is rtf
[07:32] <namename> m
[07:32] <foo> dterrell: Bad enough for me to notice it every few seconds
[07:32] <namename> rtfm*
[07:32] <dterrell> namename, read the fine manual
[07:32] <MinisterPolite> !ubotu tell R0bin about ntfs
[07:32] <jjjjjjj> i installed 5.10 ubuntu from cd then "upgraded" to edubuntu and now I'm going for the 6.06 via the web.
[07:32] <namename> where
[07:32] <reitzell> twinview has my second monitor setup on the wrong side of my main monitor. Any idea on how do I swap this?
[07:32] <jjjjjjj> "upgraded" to edubuntu via the web too.
[07:32] <jjjjjjj> meh
[07:32] <R0bin> MinisterPolite: It's a USB unit
[07:33] <tjb891> does anyone know the hotkey to lock the screen?
[07:33] <namename> where is the FINE manual?
[07:33] <dterrell> foo, dunno what to tell you :-\
[07:33] <R0bin> MinisterPolite: A mobilephone is not ntfs : P
[07:33] <foo> dterrell: lame. Where could I bump up 75 Hz to be higher?
[07:33] <dterrell> namename, the link you put should do just fine
[07:33] <dterrell> foo, is 75hz the highest there?
[07:33] <namename> wtf
[07:33] <no_dog> I have a problem with my external harddrive. Whenever I try to rsync data to it, rsync will fail in the middle of transfer, and then the drive locks up as read only. I can't unmount it, either, because it says that the device is busy. Here is a pastebin of the problem: http://pastebin.com/783541 . Any suggestions?
[07:33] <namename> i dont understand what you are trying to tell me
[07:33] <namename> why cant anyone be specific ffs
[07:33] <MinisterPolite> robin: might be a good idea to point that out in your question then
[07:33] <namename> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java i went there
[07:34] <namename> now what
[07:34] <foo> dterrell: 75Hz iw the only thing there
[07:34] <R0bin> MinisterPolite: lol
[07:34] <fabiomazzarino> hello, I know that it might be old subject, but I have just installed xgl+compiz and there are no borders at all.
[07:34] <dterrell> namename, um, perhaps follow the directions
[07:34] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: im kinda in limbo here hehe what do you want me to do
[07:34] <fabiomazzarino> can anybody help me?
[07:34] <namename> .
[07:34] <MinisterPolite> namename: first, stop using the enter key as punctuation, its annoying. second; installing Java is simple, there are even script that do it for you (Automatix/EasyUbuntu).
[07:34] <R0bin> SonyEricsson k750i
[07:34] <R0bin> I can just read files
[07:34] <dterrell> foo, you might try a lower resolution and higher refresh rate...that is _if_ the refresh is the problem, if it's already at 75hz then the flicker may be coming from another source
[07:35] <fabiomazzarino> I've already verified processes with ps, and xgl is runing, but there is no compiz.
[07:35] <MinisterPolite> fabiomazzarino: #xgl
[07:35] <godfather> is there the possibility that a webcam could not work on linux
[07:35] <godfather> ?
[07:35] <s0can>  How do I check that the iso I downloaded has the correct md5sum?  I didn't find md5sums in the download sections
[07:35] <foo> dterrell: Any other two cents? No one seems to be able to know what the heck is going on.
[07:35] <R0bin> I have a SonyEricsson k750 and I can just read files, help!
[07:35] <dterrell> does anyone know how to show a splash screen to users at login.  In a lab environment, and I have about 5 different window managers.  I need to show info about quotas and such.
[07:35] <fabiomazzarino> MinisterPolite, thanks, I'll try there.
[07:35] <namename>     *
[07:35] <namename>       Sun Java5: Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu making sure to check the unsupported and proprietary software checkboxes, or install the sun-java5-bin package.
[07:35] <namename>     *
[07:35] <namename>       Blackdown Java2 1.4 packages: Install the j2re1.4 package, available in the multiverse repositories. Install it from the Applications -> Add/Remove... menu, or install the j2re1.4 package.
[07:36] <elhaxxorz> godfather: there is the possibility that ANYTHING might not work on linux . . .yet
[07:36] <MinisterPolite> !ubotu tell namename about pastebin
[07:36] <godfather> mmm you're right
[07:36] <lupine_85>  elhaxxorz: sorry. do you want to use the -k7 or the -386 kernel?
[07:36] <dterrell> foo, it sounds vague to me, really.  the only thing I can think of is refresh and it sounds like you have that high enough already
[07:36] <R0bin> I have a SonyEricsson k750 and I can just read files, help!
[07:36] <eggman> fabiomazzarino: still got the xgl/compiz problem?
[07:36] <elhaxxorz> k7 please, lupine_85
[07:36] <Taxman2> R0bin: I get permission errors when I use sudo to try to save to a floppy, so I'm no help to you
[07:37] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, I'm trying to solve today. I didn't tryied at the weekend.
[07:37] <namename> ministerpolie: im at synaptic package manager what file am i looking for
[07:37] <MinisterPolite> RObin, if someone was here who could help you they would have the first time you asked. repeating is rude and unnecessary.
[07:37] <lupine_85> right, so in your chroot apt-get remove --purge your -386 kernel
[07:37] <eggman> ok
[07:37] <dterrell> is there a 'holding hands' entry in ubotu, heh
[07:37] <R0bin> Taxman2: If Ubuntu can't write floppys, then what the ****?
[07:37] <eggman> i had the no borders problem too
[07:37] <MinisterPolite> namename: not gonna find it there, like i said. try using easyubuntu
[07:37] <lupine_85> R0bin@ sudo dd if=image of=/dev/floppy
[07:37] <Taxman2> R0bin: of course it can, just haven't seen what I'm doing wrong. What error do you get
[07:38] <namename> oooooooo im gonna use that right now how do u want me to use it when i dont have it? now ur gonna tell me a site or something?
[07:38] <R0bin> Taxman2: I use a memorycard and I can read all files on it
[07:38] <lupine_85> elhaxxorz: then apt-get install desired-kernel
[07:38] <foo> dterrell: ok, I'll try at a lower resolutio.
[07:38] <eggman> fabiomazzarino: does your compiz work?
[07:38] <R0bin> Taxman2: no error, just that delete/paste option is blocked
[07:38] <no_dog> I have a problem with my external harddrive. Whenever I try to rsync data to it, rsync will fail in the middle of transfer, and then the drive locks up as read only. I can't unmount it, either, because it says that the device is busy. Here is a pastebin of the problem: http://pastebin.com/783541 . Any suggestions?
[07:38] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, not working.
[07:38] <UKMatt> hey guys, i got kinda a big problem, i put on a fresh copy of dapper last night, and then did all the updates and when i restarted X was broken
[07:39] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, fglrx gave me some problems, but I had already solved them.
[07:39] <R0bin> Steve Irwin is dead by the way :(
[07:39] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: root@ubuntu:/# apt-get remove --purge linux-386
[07:39] <elhaxxorz> Reading package lists... Done
[07:39] <elhaxxorz> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:39] <elhaxxorz> Package linux-386 is not installed, so not removed
[07:39] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, now I'm trying to run compiz. but it seems to be unable to connect to the server
[07:39] <MinisterPolite> namename: if i say use easyubuntu and you need help past that, either ask nicely or google it yourself.. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:39] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
[07:39] <elhaxxorz> oops meant to pstebin don't bot me
[07:39] <Taxman2> R0bin: blocked? what does that mean? what error pops up to tell you it's blocked
[07:39] <UKMatt> Any ideas how I can fix X in UB?
[07:39] <R0bin> Taxman2: no errors I said
[07:40] <lupine_85> elhaxxorz: try apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[07:40] <R0bin> Taxman2: You just can't copy delete
[07:40] <lupine_85> it might be -23-386
[07:40] <Taxman2> R0bin: then what does it tell you when it doesn't work?
[07:40] <namename> Where do i copy and paste the code to run EasyUbuntu
[07:40] <R0bin> Taxman2: Dunno, I don't console
[07:41] <lupine_85> "do you do console...?" ;)
[07:41] <Taxman2> R0bin: are you telling me you try to delete a file and there is absolutely no message given to you?
[07:41] <brian98> does the junk filter work in evolution or am I missing something ?
[07:41] <MinisterPolite> namename: you can't be serious... it says it right there on the site... the terminal. Accessories -> Terminal
[07:41] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, it's weird because xgl and gnome-panel is running.
[07:41] <namename> it dosent say that
[07:41] <R0bin> Taxman2: I can't even delete it
[07:41] <MinisterPolite> namename: whatever you say buddy
[07:41] <namename> ok
[07:41] <clearzen> lol
[07:41] <Taxman2> R0bin: you're not answering the question.
[07:41] <R0bin> Taxman2: The memorycard is write disabled
[07:41] <looktj> back
[07:42] <elhaxxorz> http://pastebin.ca/160736, lupine_85
[07:42] <looktj> i hate vmware
[07:42] <namename> i dont have
[07:42] <namename> nvm
[07:42] <looktj> !logs
[07:42] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[07:42] <Hoovey> I heart vmware.
[07:42] <spuddogg_> anyone here have trouble installing wine?
[07:42] <looktj> vm makes my computer slow
[07:42] <elhaxxorz> vmware <3 MAC OS X lol lmao
[07:42] <Hoovey> LOL.
[07:42] <R0bin> I have a SonyEricsson k750 and I can just read files, help!
[07:43] <namename> Open a terminal from Menu -> Accessories -> Terminal and paste the code below
[07:43] <namename> thats what is says...
[07:43] <Hoovey> VmWARE + Mac OS X = piece of crap.
[07:43] <no_dog> I have a problem with my external harddrive. Whenever I try to rsync data to it, rsync will fail in the middle of transfer, and then the drive locks up as read only. I can't unmount it, either, because it says that the device is busy. Here is a pastebin of the problem: http://pastebin.com/783541 . Any suggestions?
[07:43] <namename> When i go to Applications>Acessories> there is no "terminal"
[07:43] <MinisterPolite> namename: pretty straight forward
[07:43] <elhaxxorz> Hoovey: Mac OS X + A64 native = \o/
[07:43] <looktj> vmware+windows = piece of crap
[07:43] <namename> When i go to Applications>Acessories> there is no "terminal"
[07:43] <R0bin> thanks for all the "help"
[07:43] <lupine_85> elhaxxorz: ok so there's just the -k7 image. Is your /boot/grub/menu.lst set up properly?
[07:44] <MinisterPolite> I namename i just click accessories
[07:44] <elhaxxorz> windows= piece of crap lol that's why we're here
[07:44] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: don't really know
[07:44] <namename> wtf
[07:44] <lupine_85> ok, pastebin it
[07:44] <looktj> i use windows for games
[07:44] <eggman> fabiomazzarino: you need compiz to be able to do anything with xgl
[07:44] <UKMatt> My X is brokennnnnnnn guys
[07:44] <eggman> fabiomazzarino:  you also use compiz to configure the whole eye candy
[07:45] <elhaxxorz> cedega works wonders for games, and the cvs in only moderately hard if you cant follow directions
[07:45] <looktj> gunz dont
[07:45] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, I know
[07:45] <MinisterPolite> namename:  you're in pretty deep trouble if you can't find the terminal in your menu
[07:45] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, that's why I'm this worry to make it work :)
[07:45] <namename> Run Application?
[07:46] <dalfz> when does xorg 7 come to ubuntu?
[07:46] <namename> Run Application
[07:46] <looktj> ministerpolite: not really
[07:46] <ZP54> im running ubuntu 5.10 live... can I hear Mp3 files??
[07:46] <clearzen>  MinisterPolite: really this guy can't be serious
[07:46] <eggman> fabiomazzarino: if you have the 64 bit ubuntu, compiz/xgl needs to be compiled seperately. search in the forum for a thread about "dapper 64bit xgl compiz"
[07:46] <MinisterPolite> namename: Terminal
[07:46] <looktj> you can do text mode
[07:46] <namename> THere is no "TERMINAL"
[07:46] <fabiomazzarino> eggman, 32bits here
[07:46] <namename> o
[07:46] <namename> ok
[07:46] <namename> found it somwhere else
[07:46] <elhaxxorz> http://pastebin.ca/160740
[07:46] <MinisterPolite> namename: stop using the enter key as punctuation
[07:46] <ZP54> hi !
[07:46] <eggman> hmm, im off for a bit, dinner time
[07:47] <namename> why do u care its annoying?
[07:47] <elhaxxorz> Hoovey: do you have OS X native?
[07:47] <foo> namename: Yes, it's annoying.
[07:47] <namename> well i cant copy and paste the code
[07:47] <foo> namename: That's why you use a pastebin.
[07:47] <foo> :P
[07:47] <namename> How do i use that..
[07:47] <namename> o
[07:47] <looktj> !pastebin
[07:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:47] <MinisterPolite> namename: ctrl+shift+v to paste into terminal
[07:48] <namename> not for me its something else anyways what do i do now i pasted it
[07:48] <pablo89> Hi??? There's somebody here?
[07:48] <ZP54> i'm  running on ubuntu 5.10.. can i listen to mp3 files?? HELP
[07:48] <pablo89> Yes, you can
[07:48] <MinisterPolite> namename: press enter and follow on screen instructions
[07:48] <ZP54> but im running on LIVE CD
[07:49] <pablo89> mmm... I dont know
[07:49] <elhaxxorz> !RestrictedFormats > ZP54
[07:49] <Mprice1> Hi all :)
[07:49] <_simon> jetz bin ich da
[07:49] <pablo89> it's only in the install version
[07:49] <ZP54> damn..
[07:49] <Mprice1> For someone that is very new to Linux is Ubuntu the best distro to start with?
[07:50] <MinisterPolite> Mprice1: usually
[07:50] <ZP54> i tried to install it but its full of errors
[07:50] <lupine_85> elhaxxorz: try this modification - http://pastebin.ca/160746
[07:50] <pablo89> Are u usin' another operating system???
[07:50] <namename> It says.. lots of stuff, at the end it says No such file or directory: './packagelist-hoary.xml"
[07:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !BEST
[07:50] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:50] <ZP54> nope
[07:50] <lupine_85> it "should" work
[07:50] <shastry> is there away i can blacklist a particular kernel module at boot time ?
[07:50] <shastry> i need to blacklist intel-agp.. else i cant boot live cd
[07:51] <pablo89> Are u new in Linux?
[07:51] <shastry> pablo89: me ?
[07:51] <namename> bash: cd: EasyUbuntu_2006-XX-XX: No such file or directory
[07:51] <namename> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/easyubuntu$ sudo python easyubuntu.in
[07:51] <namename> thats what is says
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Mprice1: There is no best, but this is a good place to start..  Kubuntu may be easier for people trying to make the transition from XP but either way isnt hard.  The key is to see which supports your current hardware the best
[07:51] <no_dog> I have a problem with my external harddrive. Whenever I try to rsync data to it, rsync will fail in the middle of transfer, and then the drive locks up as read only. I can't unmount it, either, because it says that the device is busy. Here is a pastebin of the problem: http://pastebin.com/783541 . Any suggestions?
[07:51] <pablo89> no, zp54
[07:51] <MinisterPolite> namename: stop doing that
[07:51] <balrok> i want to play a dvd anybody who can help me?
[07:51] <ZP54> yes.. i was using windows xp and mac a little bit
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[07:51] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:51] <clearzen>  shastry: yes there is I think it is in /boot/kernel/<image#>/drivers/blacklist
[07:51] <pablo89> ok.
[07:51] <clearzen> but I can't remeber exactly
[07:51] <Mprice1> I am making a dual boot system i have had ppl tell me that I have to have Linux as the first partition on the drive and others say that it doesn't matter with Windows Xp anyone able to clarify this for me?
[07:52] <pablo89> Do u realize that windows is a sheet?
[07:52] <namename> stop posting what it tells me ? well if i dont then u cant help me
[07:52] <shastry> clearzen: i have to pass it to the live cd
[07:52] <clearzen> I had to do it for some wireless drivers
[07:52] <lupine_85> Mprice1: it's best to have Windows first
[07:52] <clearzen> oh
[07:52] <lupine_85> as it's a bit finicky
[07:52] <MinisterPolite> namename: then use pastebin
[07:52] <Mprice1> ty
[07:52] <lupine_85> linux simply doesn't care
[07:52] <ZP54> ooh yes.. it crashes 5 times at least
[07:52] <lupine_85> I've got one boot partition in /dev/hda6 ;)
[07:52] <namename> I JUST DID
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Mprice1: Windows is particular and wants first partion on drive 1 Linux dosent care
[07:52] <pablo89> Yes, it's a relly sheet...
[07:53] <clearzen> I'm not sure on a live cd sorry
[07:53] <ZP54> yeah
[07:53] <shastry> ok thanks
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Mprice1: Install xp first...
[07:53] <lupine_85>  why not use the alternative install CD instead?
[07:53] <pablo89> Has this chat a private room???
[07:53] <tgelter> hey guys, I don't want you to walk me through this, but I was wondering if anyone has found an article or has a sample xorg.conf that I could look over to get XGL/compiz working with twinview...?
[07:53] <lupine_85> pablo89: /msg - but you need to be registered
[07:53] <pablo89> ok. thanks
[07:53] <MinisterPolite> namename: ok seriously, im not sure if you've got the capacity to do this stuff.  its easy, but you need to focus and do what im saying. lets try this one more time
[07:54] <ZP54> pablo89.. sos de argentina?
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> pablo89: Always ASK first
[07:54] <MinisterPolite> open a new terminal window
[07:54] <don_jr> I"m getting an error saying too many video packets in the buffer when I use mplayer, how can I fix this?
[07:54] <TheGateKeeper> anyone used partimage?
[07:54] <pablo89> And, which is the cost for the registration???
[07:54] <lupine_85> 0
[07:54] <Flannel> pablo89: it's free.  /msg nickserv help register
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> pablo89: free
[07:54] <MinisterPolite> namename: then open this link in firefox http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[07:54] <pablo89> yes, im from argentina...
[07:54] <_simon> hi @all
[07:54] <namename> ok
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[07:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> pablo89: But your english is fine
[07:55] <ZP54> ok sorry..
[07:55] <_simon> kann mir jemand auf DEUTSCH helfen?
[07:55] <pablo89> do u belive it????
[07:55] <namename> MinisterPolite: What do I do now I am at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[07:55] <MinisterPolite> namename: highlight and copy the text in the pale orange text box. (ctrl+v)
[07:55] <tristan_> !de
[07:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:55] <godfather> anyone could tell the link to wiki to install lomewire
[07:55] <namename> Which one there are many, the first one?
[07:55] <MinisterPolite> the first one
[07:56] <ZP54> from which part of argentina?
[07:56] <Mprice1> Is there a good site that anyone would recommend that has documentation on the linux install process that i could read up on (preferably for UBUNTU)
[07:56] <namename> Okay what now.
[07:56] <pablo89> im of the province of Entre Rios
[07:56] <MinisterPolite> namename: now click Edit - Paste in your terminal window
[07:56] <gnomefreak> ZP54: join #ubuntu-offtopic to talk to him about that
[07:56] <namename> Okay I did that now what.
[07:57] <ZP54> great
[07:57] <looktj> godfather: limewire is illegal
[07:57] <pablo89> And you? Where r u from?
[07:57] <tgelter> anyone? XGL/Compiz w/ twinview or xinerama?
[07:57] <MinisterPolite> namename:  what is the terminal window doing?
[07:57] <lupine_85> looktj: no it isn't
[07:57] <gnomefreak> pablo89: join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat please
[07:57] <Flannel> tgelter: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl might be able to help
[07:57] <pablo89> ok.
[07:57] <ZP54> buenos aires.. but gnomefreak said that i we cant talk about that here.. :s
[07:57] <Flannel> !tell Mprice1 about dualboot
[07:57] <lupine_85> it's illegal to use it to download copyrighted material.... but that's another kettle of fish ;)
[07:58] <no_dog> I have a problem with my external harddrive. Whenever I try to rsync data to it, rsync will fail in the middle of transfer, and then the drive locks up as read only. I can't unmount it, either, because it says that the device is busy. Here is a pastebin of the problem: http://pastebin.com/783541 . Any suggestions?
[07:58] <tgelter> Flannel: I'm guessing those channels are on this server?
[07:58] <pablo89> hey zp54! Lets to #ubuntu-off topic...
[07:58] <Flannel> tgelter: of course
[07:58] <tgelter> Flannel: Thanks for the info
[07:58] <jjjjjjj> why did i have to start the download to upgrade to 6.06?  could i not have used a 6.06 cd?
[07:58] <don_jr> I get an error with mplayer telling me 'there are too many packets in the video buffer"  how can I remedy this?
[07:58] <ZP54> ok!
[07:58] <MinisterPolite> namename: what is the terminal doing? is it downloading or is the pasted text just sitting there?
[07:58] <namename> It wass Resolving and then connecting then it was waiting for response and it looked like something was either loading or downloading  and it finished and now it says wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
[07:58] <namename> tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
[07:58] <namename> cd easyubuntu
[07:58] <namename> sudo python easyubuntu.in
[07:58] <Flannel> jjjjjjj:to upgrade from 5.10?
[07:59] <jjjjjjj> yes flannel *with a twist*
[07:59] <MinisterPolite> namename: stop pasting in the channel like that.. last warning
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jjjjjjj: Fresh install of 6.06 is a better choice
[07:59] <MinisterPolite> namename: press enter in teh terminal
[07:59] <lupine_85> Jack_Sparrow: really?
[07:59] <namename> I did and nothing happened.
[07:59] <jjjjjjj> i installed 5.10, updated it, then upgraded to edubuntu
[07:59] <Flannel> jjjjjjj: a twist?  You can download the 6.06 alternate ISO and upgrade, but... your download will be about the same size, and more updated with the inplace one
[07:59] <lupine_85> IMO, the upgrade capability is one of the better aspects of Ubuntu :)
[08:00] <MinisterPolite> is terinal asking you for a password?
[08:00] <namename> ill do it again incase i messed it up hold on
[08:00] <jjjjjjj> so in theory i am running edubuntu that was *sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop*
[08:00] <MinisterPolite> namename:  once you paste into the terminal, it should download something then prompt you for your password
[08:00] <namename> ok
[08:01] <namename> It dosent prompt me for my password I think.
[08:01] <MinisterPolite> are you running terminal or root terminal?
[08:01] <Flannel> jjjjjjj: right, of coruse, you're also still running ubuntu, unless you removed it.  but, that shouldn't make a difference upgrading
[08:01] <namename> Applications>System Tools>Terminal
[08:01] <jonh_wendell> Hi! is it possible to run a X session (with another user) inside my session? Like a window?
[08:01] <namename> I am using Terminal not Root Terminal
[08:01] <jjjjjjj> i can remove ubuntu from edubuntu?
[08:02] <falcon3> hi, i have mouse lag on my kubuntu installation on my laptop, it's an usb mouse
[08:02] <MinisterPolite> namename:  paste the contents of that first orange box and it should download then prompt you for a password
[08:02] <falcon3> anyone knows about this problem and has a solution to it ?
[08:02] <MinisterPolite> if it does nothing then press enter after pasting
[08:02] <namename> On root or on normal Terminal
[08:02] <MinisterPolite> namename: normal terminal
[08:02] <namename> I did paste it
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: I feel a fresh install is better because there are so many possible changes and variations of what you can do to Ubuntu that the upgrade cannot account for them all.
[08:03] <MinisterPolite> namename: and what happened>
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: sorry for the lag..
[08:03] <MinisterPolite> namename: don't paste a copy of your terminal
[08:03] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: an upgrade DOES account for them all, thats the point of package management
[08:03] <namename> :P
[08:03] <jonh_wendell> Hi! is it possible to run a X session (with another user) inside my session? Like a window?
[08:03] <namename> It showed me a loading proccess or downloading
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel: We see people here every day that have problems after that upgrade...
[08:04] <lupine_85> I guess it depends on what sort of non-standard things you've been up to :)
[08:04] <lupine_85> but if the upgrade fails, surely you can just go for the fresh install...
[08:04] <MinisterPolite> namename: now it should be asking you about your password...
[08:05] <athlon> test
[08:05] <spuddogg_> anyone here have wine working on dapper 64-bit?
[08:05] <namename> Is it because Im on a live cd?
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lupine_85: Agreed.. as long as you have a copy of 6.06 just in case you cant get back online
[08:05] <ZP54> PEARL JAM    kick asses
[08:05] <MinisterPolite> namename: seriously....
[08:06] <athlon> anyone here ?
[08:06] <spuddogg_> anyone here have wine working on dapper 64-bit?
[08:06] <ubuntu> lupine_85: it did not save. . .:(
[08:06] <jjjjjjj> well i'll continue the online upgrade and if it croaks or wreaks havoc I'll report back and go for the fresh install.
[08:06] <MinisterPolite> namename: you're trying to _insall_ software on a live cd
[08:06] <godfather> anyone who can help me to install limewire
[08:06] <godfather> i'm downloading the rpm file
[08:06] <_DvP_> Hi ! (I'm french, sorry for my bad english)
[08:07] <tgelter> godfather: have you looked at ubuntuguide.org?
[08:07] <MinisterPolite> !alien > godfather
[08:07] <jjjjjjj> it's a fresh install anyway.  old celeron 800 for someone's kid. (hence the edubuntu flavor).
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> godfather: Have you tried frostwire..
[08:07] <lupine_85> godfather: man alien, at your own risk :)
[08:07] <_DvP_> Do you know if this http://www.lulu.com/content/324305 is the adaptation of the Ubuntu's Wik ?
[08:07] <godfather> but  i need j2se library but the link on doc is broken
[08:07] <_DvP_> Wiki
[08:07] <tgelter> godfather: it gives awesome instructions for all that type of thing, and I agree, frostwire is awesome
[08:07] <godfather> alien isn't the problem
[08:07] <godfather> the problem is the library
[08:08] <namename> yes
[08:08] <godfather> can i install frostwire by synaptic
[08:08] <godfather> ?
[08:08] <namename> okay I want to play this game: www.runescape.com and it asks for java plugin..
[08:08] <falcon3> is anyone experiencing extreme mouse lag on a kubuntu laptop?
[08:08] <MinisterPolite> namename: does that make logical sense that it would be possible?
[08:08] <enyc> !java
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !frostwire
[08:09] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:09] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:09] <godfather> let me take a look
[08:09] <falcon3> the touchpad seems to be working fine, but not the usb mouse
[08:09] <namename> So i can't play that game on a live cd?
[08:09] <MinisterPolite> namename: then install an operating system, or use a livecd that already has it installed
[08:09] <enyc> namename: you will need to enabllethe multiverse repository if not already done....
[08:09] <enyc> namename: sun-java5-jre
[08:09] <namename> How do i get that
[08:10] <Demp1> I'm trying to get an HP DeskJet 3550 to work with ubuntu, printer is detected and added nicely but CUPS gives this error message: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed", can't seem to find much on it in neither google or the forums, anybody got an idea?
[08:10] <Ayabara> anyone here using amarok with aac files?
[08:10] <namename> Im using a live cd because while I was installing Ubuntu it messed up and I couldn't go in Windows :\
[08:10] <jjjjjjj> having a big internet pipe don't mean squat.  it all depends on how big the pipe is where you are downloading from.
[08:10] <jamieoliver22> hi
[08:10] <MinisterPolite> namename: sounds like you have some issues to address before you go playing a game...
[08:10] <ubuntu> lupine_85: boot seems to be empty now, that has to be wrong, cause /boot is 100% full
[08:10] <philip> are there any distros that use xfree86 instad of Xorg anymore? Just curious
[08:11] <Taxman2> is there a way to get my wireless to keep trying to get an IP add if it doesn't get one right away on boot? It seems like it only tries once
[08:11] <namename> Is there any way I can play that game or Ubuntu Live Cd?
[08:11] <eggman> spuddogg: still got the wine + 64bit dapper problem?
[08:11] <ubuntu> philip: Debian Sarge did last time i used it
[08:11] <MinisterPolite> Demp1: I have that exact printer. works perfectly. Sorry.
[08:11] <enyc> philip: only older distro version..... the latest "stable" debian is  xfree86 .....
[08:11] <lupine_85> ubuntu: is it still mounted?
[08:11] <j`ey> im installing ubuntu, can someone give me help with the partioiong?
[08:11] <ubuntu> i rebooted, i think so
[08:11] <enyc> philip: note that X.org is forked from xfree86 -- essentially it *is* xfree86
[08:11] <recon0> For some reason, the CUPS web interface seems to be broken. It won't accept any username/password I give it.
[08:11] <godfather> i've just seen frostwire screenshots
[08:12] <Demp1> MinisterPolite: do you use the hp:/usb.... uri for it?
[08:12] <recon0> Is anybody else having the above problem?
[08:12] <godfather> it is very very similar to winmx music
[08:12] <MinisterPolite> Demp1:  honstly, i just connected the thing via usb, clicked add printer, and printed out a test page
[08:12] <enyc> recon0: iirc ubuntu  does net setup for use fof the web interfaceee...  use system>administration>printing   ??
[08:12] <Demp1> ok, thanks anyway
[08:13] <jamieoliver22> can anyone help me please? i have just installed ubuntu to my 5gb memory stick (which acts like a hard drive). when i put it in on boot, it wont boot from my memory stick (even though it is my first boot device in the BIOS settings). can anyone give me any advise please?
[08:13] <no_dog> I have a problem with my external harddrive. Whenever I try to rsync data to it, rsync will fail in the middle of transfer, and then the drive locks up as read only. I can't unmount it, either, because it says that the device is busy. Here is a pastebin of the problem: http://pastebin.com/783541 . Any suggestions?
[08:14] <ubuntu> lupine_85: my bad, not mounted...why is it 100% full though with one kernel in there?
[08:14] <Warbo> jamieoliver22: First make sure GRUB is installed on it (type !grub in here to see how) then I would check GRUB's device.map file, since that should tell it where the USB drive is
[08:14] <enyc> no_dog: the kernel normally mounts devices readonly if it sees filesystem errors
[08:14] <philip> I thought most distros are moving away from xfree86 towards X.org due to a myriad of issues, ie xfree86 is dying a slow death?
[08:14] <jamieoliver22> thanks
[08:14] <jamieoliver22> !grub
[08:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:15] <Warbo> XFree86 is still monolithic I think, and they changed their license slightly which worried people
[08:15] <no_dog> enyc: Interesting. Why might I be getting filesystem errors? I reformatted the drive as ext3 yesterday. It's a new drive, might there be some physical problems?
[08:15] <falcon3> i would really like some help, my mouse isn't working correctly on a kubuntu laptop
[08:15] <enyc> no_dog: right... 2 things
[08:16] <enyc> no_dog: joey@ubuntu:/media/250gb$
[08:16] <fender_freek> falcon3: what's the problem?
[08:16] <enyc> no_dog: you are cd'ed into that directory
[08:16] <no_dog> enyc: ...d'oh
[08:16] <enyc> no_dog: unlike DOS / windoze... hawing a shell cd'ed to that directory... is holding it 'open' (busy)
[08:16] <falcon3> fender_freek: my mouse is going laggy on my kubuntu laptop, this is a problem i had when breezy was just out too
[08:16] <falcon3> fender_freek: and it is still a problem on dapper
[08:16] <balrok> where can i find libdvdcss? i have the sources.list from automatix (with the repos from czechi)  but i cant found libdvdcss
[08:17] <elhaxxorz> lupine_85: can you link me to the pastebin with the modded menu.lst?
[08:17] <fender_freek> falcon3: from the start, or over time?
[08:17] <enyc> no_dog: socondly... look at your 'dmesg' output
[08:17] <falcon3> fender_freek: from the start
[08:17] <enyc> no_dog: poste that to postebin
[08:17] <absolut>  /msg ubotu audigy
[08:17] <falcon3> fender_freek: my touchpad works fluidly though, but the external usb mouse lags
[08:17] <enyc> no_dog: err... paste that in pastebin even
[08:17] <fender_freek> falcon3: check your /etc/X/xorg.conf for mouse settings
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss
[08:17] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:17] <Taxman2> can anyone point me to the docs on retrying to grab an address by dhcp if it doesn't get picked up on boot?
[08:17] <falcon3> fender_freek: what should i check ?
[08:18] <fender_freek> falcon3: you can modify the sensitivity and accel settings, among other thing depending on the driver
[08:18] <j`ey_> can someone look at http://pastie.caboo.se/11671
[08:18] <fender_freek> falcon3: i had to do that to get my touchpad to work properly. it would barely move with a full stroke
[08:18] <j`ey_> and tell me how I should partiion my drives?
[08:18] <aalex> hi all
[08:18] <looktj> windows is being dumb in vmware
[08:19] <looktj> it won't acivate
[08:19] <fender_freek> falcon3: hang on a sec, i'll pull mine up and tell you exactly what to look for
[08:19] <enyc> ??acivate??
[08:19] <aalex> I dont understanf the partition GUI when installing ubuntu.... where is fdisk ?! ;-) No, really, where is the online doc about this ?
[08:19] <looktj> yea
[08:19] <falcon3> fender_freek: i am really appreciating your help
[08:19] <enyc> looktj: what do you mean 'acivate'?
[08:19] <looktj> activate?
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Just let the installer use all unallocated space.. no need to di it manually
[08:19] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: it doesnt work, if I do that
[08:19] <enyc> looktj: what is not activating in your windovs? waht do you mean?
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: What error do you get?
[08:20] <sysdoc> aalex, I got a link for ya give me a sec
[08:20] <enyc> no_dog: ?? whats happening?
[08:20] <earthian> hello
[08:20] <j`ey_> failed to partiotion the select disk
[08:20] <looktj> i enter product key that is attached to my laptop
[08:20] <fender_freek> falcon3: my b on the path - /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <earthian> i want to change my distro architecture from linux-amd64-k8 to linux-i686 (32bit)
[08:20] <earthian> how do i do that???
[08:20] <looktj> but it says invalid
[08:21] <falcon3> fender_freek: your "b" ?
[08:21] <earthian> so in genereal i want to switch to 32bit mode from 64bit current one
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Sorry my bad... You dont have enough unallocated space, I thought that was gigs not megs
[08:21] <enyc> earthian: you need to reinstall in short
[08:21] <no_dog> enyc: sorry, pastebin was taking awhile. Here's the dmesg output, first without the drive mounted, then with it mounted: http://pastebin.com/783578
[08:22] <sysdoc> aalex, Here is a write up on installing Ubuntu, should answer your questions about partitioning. http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/
[08:22] <earthian> enyc: i have installed the current one on a sata raid
[08:22] <earthian> :S
[08:22] <aalex> sysdoc, thansk !
[08:22] <earthian> and how can i reinstall it?
[08:22] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: I need unallcoate some, how?
[08:22] <sysdoc> aalex, u bet
[08:22] <Jack_Sparrow> shrink one of the other partitions
[08:22] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: I can do it before the installer
[08:22] <fender_freek> falcon3: haha...my bad
[08:22] <IceTox> is it possible to change hostname without having to reboot ubuntu?
[08:22] <falcon3> my xorg.conf is open
[08:22] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: how?
[08:22] <jamieoliver22> can you install the "grub boot floppy" onto the same memory stick that ubuntu is installed on?
[08:22] <lupine_85>  elhaxxxorz: http://pastebin.ca/160746
[08:22] <enyc> no_dog: ext3_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error recorded from previous mount:
[08:23] <enyc> no_dog:  IO failure
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: You can do it from windows or from the installer..
[08:23] <enyc> no_dog: erm...erm ... you see higher up? more info?
[08:23] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: thats why Im trying to do it manually!
[08:23] <enyc> no_dog: like erros from whon it was mounted previously?
[08:23] <looktj> is partitioning on a 40 GB hd bad?
[08:23] <earthian> !linux i386
[08:23] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:23] <no_dog> enyc: Do I see higher up?
[08:23] <fender_freek> falcon3: kinda a given, but have you changed any settings from the gnome-mouse-properties?
[08:23] <balrok> i need a clear answer how to install libdvdcss (or any other libs to crack css) this is already configured "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages"
[08:24] <enyc> looktj: you need to create osme partition(s) to use the system
[08:24] <balrok> but i don't find the libdvdcss
[08:24] <fender_freek> falcon3: i should have asked that before we jump to extereme measures...
[08:24] <enyc> no_dog: likee ... tho whole 'dmesg' output rather than the last fef lines
[08:24] <falcon3> fender_freek: no, i'm using kubuntu btw, but that's the same i guess :)
[08:24] <looktj> ubotu, linux i386
[08:24] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:24] <looktj> hmm
[08:24] <jamieoliver22> is it possible to install the "grub boot floppy" onto the same memory stick that ubuntu is installed on?
[08:24] <enyc> no_dog: try 'dmesg > no_nog_dmesg.txt' to create a txt file...
[08:24] <fender_freek> falcon3: k. try system>preferences>mouse
[08:24] <earthian> !linux i686
[08:24] <aalex> sysdoc ; What if I dont want that graphical installer ? I will reboot using option 2 i guess
[08:24] <no_dog> enyc: That's all the output that 'dmesg | grep sdb' gives. Just 'demsg' by itself gives so much output that it scrolls past my buffer. Do you want all of it?
[08:24] <godfather> tgelter
[08:25] <fender_freek> falcon3: it actually would be a different util in KDE
[08:25] <falcon3> fender_freek: i'm in kde's mouse controll center
[08:25] <fender_freek> alright
[08:25] <no_dog> enyc: k
[08:25] <mathieu_> can anyone recommend a good calendar software ?
[08:25] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: You are not using much of your ntfs so I would shrink that
[08:25] <looktj> ubotu, linux i686
[08:25] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:25] <Warbo> jamieoliver22: GRUB is used to boot Ubuntu. If you put it onto a floppy then it is a boot floppy, if you put it in the same place as Ubuntu then it is just part of Ubuntu
[08:25] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: I dont know hwo!
[08:25] <sysdoc> aalex, check out the screen shots...
[08:25] <fender_freek> falcon3: anything like sensetivity adjustment or accel adjust?
[08:25] <falcon3> fender_freek: yes there is
[08:26] <balrok> i need a clear answer how to install libdvdcss (or any other libs to crack css) this is already configured "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages"
[08:26] <balrok> i need a clear answer how to install libdvdcss (or any other libs to crack css) this is already configured "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages"
[08:26] <balrok> but i don't find the libdvdcss
[08:26] <falcon3> fender_freek: accell on 160ms, accell profile on 0, etc etc
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: It has been awhile since I installed but I thought the installer asked if you wanted to shrink the existing install of windows
[08:26] <looktj> brb
[08:26] <fender_freek> falcon3: I've never used Kubuntu, so I'm doing what i can. you want to try increasing the sensitivity if possible
[08:26] <jamieoliver22> Warbo: so does that mean i can then? i am fairly new to this you see :p
[08:26] <no_dog> enyc; Pastebin is churning. It will be up in a sec.
[08:26] <enyc> no_dog: no_dog ;-)
[08:26] <StoneNote> balrok, try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[08:27] <Naik0> which pakage should i get if i want to run asp on my apache
[08:27] <fender_freek> falcon3: accel is more of a personal preference thing than performance. sensitivity could be the prob tho
[08:27] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: it hasnt
[08:27] <godfather> i've just installed frostwire ,a limewire clone
[08:27] <Warbo> jamieoliver22: Making a "boot floppy" on a USB stick just means putting GRUb onto the USB stick. If you want then you can make a seperate partition for /boot, but I don't see how that would do any good unless it is on another device
[08:27] <falcon3> fender_freek: i'm guessing "pointer accelleration" ?
[08:27] <godfather> but where can i find the java lib
[08:27] <godfather> ?
[08:27] <fender_freek> falcon3: no, that's different...any other options?
[08:27] <JoseStefan> !tell godfather about java
[08:28] <falcon3> fender_freek: pointer threshold, drag start time, start distance, mouse wheel scroll
[08:28] <enyc> no_dog: I wonder why pastebin is so slow today
[08:28] <fender_freek> falcon3: hang on...lemme look up that pointer threshold option
[08:28] <falcon3> but my touchpad mouse is working really great, only problem is my external mouse on usb
[08:28] <jamieoliver22> Warbo: well my original problem was: i have just installed ubuntu to my 5gb memory stick (which acts like a hard drive). when i put it in on boot, it wont boot from my memory stick (even though it is my first boot device in the BIOS settings). can anyone give me any advise please?
[08:28] <falcon3> fender_freek: but my touchpad mouse is working really great, only problem is my external mouse on usb
[08:28] <godfather> tnx
[08:29] <no_dog> enyc: Beats me ;). Here's the full output from 'dmesg': http://pastebin.com/783582
[08:29] <fender_freek> falcon3: ah...
[08:29] <fender_freek> falcon3: that would make a difference in how we do this...
[08:29] <earthian> how to get a version of my current X org system?
[08:29] <falcon3> fender_freek: mentioned it before, but you probably didn't notice, it's okay
[08:29] <enyc> no_dog: loading......
[08:29] <earthian> x11r
[08:29] <fender_freek> falcon3: sorry
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Gimme a minute....
[08:30] <enyc> no_dog:
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[08:30] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:30] <fender_freek> falcon3: well, in order to increase the sensitivity, you would lower the pointer threshold
[08:30] <Jamminpotato> !opera
[08:30] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:30] <Jamminpotato> thats wierd i cant find opera in synaptic
[08:30] <aalex> Where is the advanced installer for Ubuntu Dapper ?
[08:31] <JoseStefan> Jamminpotato, you have to add it using add/remove, it will add another repos for it
[08:31] <earthian> how do i get a version of my X11R ?
[08:31] <falcon3> fender_freek: did not help
[08:31] <earthian> i mean the XServer
[08:31] <earthian> ??
[08:31] <earthian> erm
[08:31] <Jamminpotato> oh
[08:31] <jamieoliver22> Warbo: well my original problem was: i have just installed ubuntu to my 5gb memory stick (which acts like a hard drive). when i put it in on boot, it wont boot from my memory stick (even though it is my first boot device in the BIOS settings). can anyone give me any advise please?
[08:31] <fender_freek> falcon3: not at all?
[08:31] <no_dog> enyc: yeah?
[08:31] <earthian> !xserver
[08:31] <falcon3> fender_freek: not a diddly
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <earthian> !xorg
[08:31] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:31] <enyc> no_dog: hhrrm... weird pile of io errors with no details
[08:31] <lupine_85> jamieoliver22: has the addressing for the USB stick changed?
[08:31] <enyc> no_dog: it could be a problem with allsorts ;-)
[08:31] <JoseStefan> Jamminpotato, i suggest 9.01 from opera.com
[08:31] <Jamminpotato> what about automatix?
[08:32] <fender_freek> falcon3: k. that might have messed with your touchpad setting tho. you prob. wanna put it back
[08:32] <enyc> no_dog: problem with the driver or contrellor etc. for the  usb or ieee1394  interface
[08:32] <falcon3> fender_freek: protocol is set to ExplorerPS/2 though
[08:32] <no_dog> enyc: Yeah... I'm not even sure what sda is :(
[08:32] <jamieoliver22> lupine_85: what do you mean exactly? not that i know of..
[08:32] <falcon3> fender_freek: already done that
[08:32] <no_dog> enyc: Oh... how can I try to resolve that?
[08:32] <enyc> no_dog: it could be trouble with the drive (bad sectors)
[08:32] <enyc> no_dog: ?are you able to erase/remove everything from the drive ?
[08:32] <fender_freek> falcon3: good. what other options are available for the "profile"?
[08:32] <twosharp> how do i change keyboard layout in shell?
[08:32] <enyc> twosharp: you need  leadkeys iirc
[08:33] <falcon3> not much
[08:33] <enyc> twosharp: err... loadkeys
[08:33] <no_dog> enyc: My external drive is sdb, though. All those errors are for sda.
[08:33] <falcon3> fender_freek: not much all of them pretty useleses
[08:33] <enyc> no_dog: thefy  were for both
[08:33] <jamieoliver22> lupine_85: what do you mean exactly? not that i know of..
[08:33] <enyc> no_dog:  its as if you unplugged and replugged it
[08:33] <lupine_85> jamieoliver22:  e.g. maybe when you installed your system, it was being /dev/sdc (or whatever)... and now it's being seen as /dev/sda
[08:33] <enyc> no_dog: and it called the new device instance sdb
[08:33] <Jamminpotato> is beagle relient on gnome?
[08:34] <enyc> no_dog: SCSI and SATA and usb/ieee1394 drives all get called 'sd?' iirc
[08:34] <Jamminpotato> or can it be used with xfce
[08:34] <jamieoliver22> i *think* it was being sdc when it was being installed. what shall i do then now?
[08:34] <no_dog> enyc: Hrm. Ok. My external drive has always showed up as 'sdb,' though, for what it's worth
[08:34] <fender_freek> falcon3: well, back to the xorg.conf... go to console and vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:34] <earthian> what is the difference between XFree86 and Xorg Xserver ???
[08:34] <falcon3> fender_freek: already there
[08:34] <earthian> or is it the same?
[08:34] <earthian> :o
[08:34] <lupine_85> jamieoliver22: well first you need to see if that is actually the problem. Do you have any error messages?
[08:35] <no_dog> enyc: And, I can write to / remove from the drive. It just seems to lock up and go into read-only mode when I rsync a bunch of data.
[08:35] <earthian> !xfree86
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <earthian> !xorg
[08:35] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:35] <earthian> :o
[08:35] <fender_freek> falcon3: look for identifier: configured mouse
[08:35] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: im rebooting in windows
[08:35] <falcon3> fender_freek: looking at it right now
[08:35] <enyc> no_dog: well a filesystem error in ogguring
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: I am bring
[08:35] <mortenskyt_> hey, anybody here into audio-problems - the quality is quite low in some kind of audio-formats and perfect in others
[08:35] <godfather> i have some problem with java
[08:35] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: i am bring
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: ing up the ubinstall on another pc now
[08:35] <j`ey_> ?
[08:35] <fender_freek> falcon3: ok. do you have option CorePointer ?
[08:35] <j`ey_> ok
[08:35] <no_dog> enyc: What do you recommend? I try to get my money back from newegg?
[08:36] <godfather> JoseStefan
[08:36] <falcon3> fender_freek: i do
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: I just could not do it from memory
[08:36] <enyc> no_dog: EXT3-fs error (device sdb1): ext3_new_block:  Allocating block in system zone - block = 50888711
[08:36] <Jamminpotato> is beagle relient on gnome? or can it be usedwith xfce as well
[08:36] <no_dog> enyc: Or do you think it might be a problem with my configuration?
[08:36] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: it didnt show a shrinker on mine
[08:36] <enyc> no_dog: erm.. could be allsorts
[08:36] <jamieoliver22> lupine_85: yes and no. i make it my first boot device, it bypass's it and boots my hard drive (windows). If i disable all other boot devices and only have the memory stick as on, i get an error saying it cant find a boot device.
[08:36] <enyc> no_dog: ?are you able to erase/remove everything from the drive ?
 i mean in xserver-xorg, cause it works in shell, but as soon as the xserver is loaded i cant make the local characters work, nether the alt gr, delete and backspace are both backspace..
[08:36] <twosharp> any idea?
[08:36] <fender_freek> falcon3: alright. option Resolution ?
[08:36] <jgerber> why does adding new sessions through system->sessions not affect the sessions list in gdm?
[08:36] <no_dog> enyc: And, I can write to / remove from the drive. It just seems to lock up and go into read-only mode when I rsync a bunch of data.
[08:36] <JoseStefan> godfather
[08:36] <lupine_85> jamieoliver22: then you don't have a bootloader installed onto it
[08:36] <godfather> i can't install the right java lib
[08:36] <falcon3> fender_freek: don't have that one
[08:36] <spuddogg_> does anyone here know how to share folders on a windows network, with ubuntu?
[08:37] <no_dog> enyc: "everything?"
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: You do it from the partitioner
[08:37] <enyc> no_dog: I got that message....
[08:37] <lupine_85> so... sudo grub-install /dev/sdc should fix your problem
[08:37] <falcon3> fender_freek: could we take this to a private place? i'm getting confused by all the others speaking :)
[08:37] <enyc> no_dog: i mean like all your data // be ok to repartition it?
[08:37] <JoseStefan> godfather, did you check the links ubotu sent you?
[08:37] <Jamminpotato> !beagle
[08:37] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[08:37] <mortenskyt_> spuddog_: what you're searching for is called samba
[08:37] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: the ubutnutu installer partinionter?
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[08:37] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: k
[08:37] <godfather> the instructions speak about using add/remove application+
[08:37] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: will you help me through?
[08:37] <godfather> but it can't find that lib
[08:37] <no_dog> enyc: Oh, I get you. I have no issues about reformatting it.
[08:37] <mortenskyt_> spuddog_: that's how you make windows-compatible shares in linux
[08:37] <enyc> no_dog: ok
[08:37] <godfather> yes i'm followind the link you gave to me
[08:38] <fender_freek> falcon3: then you may need to set that. I've never actually used it, but if you'll look up some info on that, it may help you. It changes the counts per inch of the mouse
[08:38] <Jamminpotato> is beagle relient on gnome? or can it be usedwith xfce as well
[08:38] <enyc> no_dog: many new dirves have bad sector hassles....
[08:38] <enyc> no_dog: in firsh bits of use.....
[08:38] <jamieoliver22> ok, thanks mate
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Yes,.. you dont happen to have partition magic on your XP install do you?
[08:38] <falcon3> fender_freek: okay, i'm gonna look it up now
[08:38] <no_dog> enyc: I did reformat it yesterday, though.
[08:38] <JoseStefan> !info sun-java-jre
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: We can do it either way
[08:38] <jgerber> anyone know what adding sessions to the System->sessions gui does? it doesnt make new sessions available via the login
[08:38] <ubotu> Package sun-java-jre does not exist in any distro I know
[08:38] <enyc> no_dog: what do you mean
[08:38] <enyc> no_dog: mke2fs -j ?
[08:38] <JoseStefan> !info java-sun-jre
[08:38] <ubotu> Package java-sun-jre does not exist in any distro I know
[08:38] <earthian> !info xfree86
[08:38] <ubotu> Package xfree86 does not exist in any distro I know
[08:38] <mortenskyt_> spuddog_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server
[08:38] <Lemino> is there any shortcommand to start the systemmanager-tool? like ctrl+alt+del in win? I'm on gnome.
[08:38] <earthian> :S
[08:39] <fender_freek> falcon3: i don't really have much else for you, unfortunately. I've only had limited experience with my own mouse-related troubles
[08:39] <enyc> !info sun-java5-bin
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: You are booted to livecd atm correct..
[08:39] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[08:39] <Ghettoen> I have a problem with my Thinkpad t20 and the dockingstations PS2 mouse
[08:39] <falcon3> fender_freek: thank you for you kind help
[08:39] <StoneNote> !info does_not_exist_in_any_distro_I_know
[08:39] <no_dog> enyc: I bought the drive new a few weeks ago, used it fresh out of the box (it came FAT32), noticed some strange behavior, so I reformatted as ext3 yesterday, but am still having problems, so I came here :)
[08:39] <ubotu> Package doesnotexistinanydistroiknow does not exist in any distro I know
[08:39] <JoseStefan> !info sun-java5-jre
[08:39] <no_dog> enyc: "mke2fs -j"?
[08:39] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[08:39] <jgerber> Couldn't find package sun-hava5-bin
[08:39] <enyc> no_dog: what do you mean 'reformatted' ?
[08:39] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[08:39] <godfather> JoseStefan
[08:39] <fender_freek> falcon3: n/p. best of luck to you. I'd check the ubuntu forums too, if you haven't already. lots of good stuff there.
[08:39] <jgerber> multiverse enabled
[08:39] <JoseStefan> godfather, you need to add multiverse to your repos
[08:39] <j`ey_> Jack_Sparrow: i just restarted so in a few mins
[08:39] <godfather> maybe i'm resolving the problem
[08:39] <enyc> no_dog: dod you use mk31fs  to put an ext3  fsoon it ? or something?
[08:40] <enyc> no_dog: I didnt catch what command you ran
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: when you get ther click on install and we will go from there.
[08:40] <no_dog> enyc: I followed a guide, as it was my first time doing this in Linux. Don't remember the exact commands the I used, but I can find out. One moment.
[08:40] <Otacon22> hi all, i need to see the input from a video input card with mplayer , how i can do it?
[08:40] <j0lliyo> i have a probem... my wireless works when i boot, and for like 30 secs after i boot... then it just stops working... anybody else have this problem?
[08:41] <reitzell> I just installed a wintv card. What software do I load to use it?
[08:41] <no_dog> enyc: After setting up the partitions, I issued the command: "mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdb1"
[08:41] <enyc> no_dog: right....
[08:41] <enyc> no_dog: this only creates the filesystem structure...
[08:41] <enyc> no_dog: thot does not 'reformat' (rewrite) all the data space
[08:42] <opl> hi all, if I issue a command like "mkdir abc" can I refere to that last command in the next row like "echo 'last command' >> testing.txt?
[08:42] <no_dog> enyc: Ok. Are you correcting my semantics, or saying that I did something incorrectly?
[08:43] <enyc> no_dog: I would try the following.... * unmount the filesystem....  * "badblocks -wvs /dev/sdb"   -- this will actually read-write test all the data space...  if the drive has dodgy sectors this will usually cause the disk to 'fix itself' after a few passes.....   if you cannot get that to work  then there is an incompatibility  or fault
[08:44] <gutierrezjosem> hello
[08:44] <no_dog> enyc: That will destroy the data on the drive, I take it?
[08:44] <enyc> no_dog: note that this will likely take a  long time...   I always  'badblocks -wvs' disks before using them
[08:44] <enyc> no_dog: yes
[08:44] <jgerber> exit
[08:44] <MrObvious> opl: Hmm.
[08:44] <enyc> no_dog: -v  does destructive write test
[08:45] <MrObvious> opl: The only thing I can think of is using the history command with grep
[08:45] <enyc> no_dog: -vs does sensible display of progress
[08:45] <no_dog> enyc: Ok. I will execute that and let it run. How will I know the difference between a successful run (I can use the drive, good to go) and an unsuccessful (time to try to get my money back) one?
[08:45] <MrObvious> opl: Unfourtinately my experience with bash scripting isn't that good.
[08:45] <enyc> no_dog:  you will get '0 bad blocks found' ;-)
[08:46] <no_dog> enyc: Heh, ok. I'll give it a try and see what happens. Thanks for the help!
[08:46] <enyc> no_dog: auusing you used -vs -- i.e. 'badblocks -wvs /dev/sdb' -- BE CAREFUL what device you use
[08:46] <enyc> no_dog: dont say 'hda' or 'sda' ;-)
[08:46] <enyc> no_dog: remember to umount the filesystem first
[08:46] <no_dog> enyc: Done and done :)
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> enyc: That is usb drive right, what about trying to set the bios to usb1.1 (slower) and see if his write fails again..
[08:47] <looktj> how do i remove vmware?
[08:47] <enyc> Jack_Sparrow: can do... if it fails badblocks ;-)
[08:47] <twosharp> hi =) how can i make the local characters, alt gr, delete buttons work? i mean in xserver-xorg, cause it works in shell, but as soon as the xserver is loaded i cant make the local characters work, nether the alt gr, delete and backspace are both backspace.. any idea how to fix this?
[08:47] <enyc> no_dog: hard disks for years have 'internal defect management'
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> enyc: Just a thought, wasnt trying to interrupt your progress
[08:48] <enyc> no_dog: this means..... that they will 'map out' bad sectors for spare sectors  but they only tend to remap on writing  having had read errors in past
[08:48] <Exclamation> hi
[08:48] <Lemino> anybody, a shortcommand in gnome for the system-manager?
[08:48] <spuddogg_> can someone here help me get my shared folders working?
[08:48] <looktj> anyone know command to remove vmware?
[08:49] <enyc> no_dog: doing a 'badblocks -wvs' is both testing and alse reduction of likelihood of problems
[08:49] <no_dog> enyc: If it has bad sectors, but badblocks identifies them, is the drive still usable?
[08:49] <Exclamation> im having problem with my wireless. its detected, light is on. iwconfig looks good. im usifn networkmanager to connect but i cant get an ip from wireless, wired works fine...
[08:49] <enyc> no_dog: if you have  errors on the (eventual) completion of badblocks.... do it all again... you may find the drive has then fixed itself
[08:49] <enyc> no_dog: not really
[08:49] <looktj> why wont anyone answer my question?
[08:50] <enyc> no_dog: you need to get it to give '0 bad blocks' before you use the drive
[08:50] <jjjjjjj> i'm aborting the 6.06 upgrade and will just install via the .iso i d/l yesterday.
[08:50] <jjjjjjj> 6hrs is too long too wait.
[08:50] <enyc> no_dog: it could  be a problem w/ the drive.... or caddy/cable  ... or usb driver/whatever
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jjjjjjj: Np..
[08:50] <feryana> hi
[08:50] <aalex> In the GUI installer, how can I set the flag of a partition ? (boot, /, unused, etc. )
[08:50] <aalex> Dapper
[08:50] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: im on the desktop?
[08:50] <no_dog> enyc: So, just iterate until I get 0 bad blocks, and if I can't get that, send it back and hope that it was somebody else's fault?
[08:50] <enyc> no_dog: sounds sensible ;-)
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: click on install
[08:51] <looktj> guys?! how do i remove vmware via terminal ???
[08:51] <jjjjjjj> the servers seem to be really slow today.
[08:51] <j`ey> k
[08:51] <enyc> no_dog: it will take a long time ;-)
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> select lang
[08:51] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: k
[08:51] <looktj> im feeling ignored
[08:51] <|thunder> Sup all, Im guessing this is a no, but is there a way to comtrol grub with a USB keyboard ?
[08:51] <clearzen> looktj: sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware
[08:51] <no_dog> enyc: Noted :). Thanks again for the help!
[08:51] <looktj> thanks
[08:51] <dgl> how package I should use to start working with latex?
[08:51] <enyc> |thunder: yes if bios supports the usb keyboard... no otherwise
[08:51] <mansfeld> hi folks
[08:51] <feryana> hey guys I want to install linux in my other laptop too... but is a PIII and froze when starting partitioner... I think that maybe the laptop can't handle the live CD + installation. How can I install it without live CD? Is dapper
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: city
[08:51] <dgl> what package should I use to start working with latex?
[08:52] <enyc> |thunder: you may need to turn on usb keyborad support is BIOS setup
[08:52] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: & keyorad, done
[08:52] <frying_fish> feryana: download the "alternate" cd
[08:52] <|thunder> enyc, thanks alot, I think I disabled it for the OSX setup, thanks alot. BRB, gonna try it out
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: My laptop is slow...
[08:52] <frying_fish> it does a text based install
[08:52] <feryana> frying_fish, and then just will install?
[08:52] <anon32> need help with dualbooting! link to a support page please?
[08:52] <foo> How do I install nvidia drivers?
[08:52] <enyc> no_dog: id be interestid te know what you eventually find out/do... please write to enyc@evtech.org  and remind me you were 'no_dog' and what happened... please
[08:52] <anon32> foo: from nvidia, if they have linux drivers
[08:52] <dalamar> !dualboot
[08:52] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:53] <clearzen> foo: automatix is your friend
[08:53] <mansfeld> I was wondering... anyone know a way to mount a Thinkpad hard drive in linux? (I assume there's something weird about the partition table, in order to have the IBM boot utilities?)
[08:53] <foo> anon32: Hm. Ok. I didn't know if there was a "ubuntu way".
[08:53] <foo> clearzen: What is that?
[08:53] <frying_fish> feryana: you can install it from that yes
[08:53] <anon32> thanks, does that cover dualbooting with dual hard drives?
[08:53] <frying_fish> and it uses less resources, so more chance of it working.
[08:53] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: ive done my name etc,
[08:53] <clearzen> it is an installation package for ubuntu
[08:53] <clearzen> it has it's own wiki
[08:53] <anon32> foo: the "ubuntu way" is for you to go download the gcc and compile nvidia's sources, if they have them
[08:53] <no_dog> enyc: Absolutely. Would be the least I could do :)
[08:53] <fooba1> where can I find information on getting my desktop to hibernate/suspend properly?
[08:54] <no_dog> enyc: I'm going to watch some vids and let this run
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: first option is resize
[08:54] <mansfeld> a friend of mine is trying to rescue data from his laptop harddrive (onto his desktop PC), and can't get the HDD to mount (Gparted won't recognize the partition)
[08:54] <godfather> see you later
[08:54] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: its erase for me
[08:54] <clearzen> foo: here is a link http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation
[08:54] <Flannel> !tell foo about nvidia
[08:54] <fooba1> hibernate shuts down the computer, but when it comes back up it has brown/black vertical bars (my laptop does that, but then it redraws the login screen)
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Your first option is not resize?
[08:54] <j`ey> no
[08:54] <Flannel> clearzen: please don't recommend automatix here.
[08:54] <j`ey> erase
[08:55] <clearzen> k
[08:55] <feryana> ok thanks man!
[08:55] <Flannel> foo: ubotu sent you a link that'll get you all set up with nvidia drivers
[08:55] <foo> Flannel: thanks, that's what I was looking for
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: So you only have two options, erase or manual?
[08:55] <j`ey> erase, use space,manual
[08:55] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: what version are yo using?
[08:55] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: What version are you trying to install?
[08:56] <tristan_> Flannel, why is it forbidden to recomand automatix?
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: 6.06
[08:56] <Flannel> tristan_: because it breaks a lot of systems, and when they break, they're near impossible to put back together
[08:56] <lupine_85> 'cos it's naughty :)
[08:56] <frying_fish> tristan_: because it is very bad
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> tristan_: It breaks systems
[08:56] <_azrael> tristan_: Because almost every time someone uses automatix, they come back with a half broken system a little later asking for help.
[08:56] <frying_fish> and it breaks things.
[08:56] <jmichaelx> for all the bad that is said about automatix in the x/k/ubuntu rooms, i have used it on 4 ubuntu machines and one mepis machine and have never had a single problem
[08:56] <Flannel> !worksforme
[08:56] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[08:56] <anon32> um, is dualbooting with dual hard drives any different than with partitioning?
[08:56] <tristan_> OK. Then I must be an exception. It run fine on my system
[08:56] <lupine_85> and Asterisk... and Obelix, too ;)
[08:57] <Flannel> anon32: nope.
[08:57] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: I download from http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[08:57] <frying_fish> anon32: no.
[08:57] <Exclamation> im having problem with my wireless. its detected, light is on. iwconfig looks good. im usifn networkmanager to connect but i cant get an ip from wireless, wired works fine...
[08:57] <_azrael> anon32: Only possible difference is to make sure your bios points at the hard drive that has GRUB on it.
[08:57] <lupine_85> anon32: it's easier
[08:57] <frying_fish> so long as grub knows where to boot which from.
[08:57] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: go to manual...
[08:57] <Jeruvy> anon32: other than it's easier to split them up later...no.
[08:57] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: k
[08:57] <anon32> hmm, and can I install a different version of windows over my existing install safely?
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Still waiting for this old slow laptop..
[08:58] <anon32> or will that f- my grub partition?
[08:58] <Flannel> anon32: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:58] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: k
[08:58] <MinisterPolite> anon32:  you'll need to restore grub
[08:58] <anon32> thanks
[08:58] <lupine_85> anon32: windows will kill the bootloader on the drive it's installed to
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: yes it will hose your grub, but it is fixable
[08:58] <anon32> ok
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[08:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:58] <fooba1> Flannel:  nvidia drivers?  I think it's got a Radeon card in it right now...
[08:58] <lupine_85> if that's not the primary boot drive, you probably won't notice anything
[08:58] <fooba1> Flannel: hmm...
[08:58] <anon32> oh yeah, what about ntfs write support?
[08:59] <Flannel> fooba1: did I accidentally send it to you?  sorry, meant foo.
[08:59] <lupine_85> !ntfs
[08:59] <frying_fish> anon32: not likely
[08:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:59] <anon32> any ideas on how to get ntfs write support? I know about captive ntfs, anything else?
[08:59] <lupine_85> anon32: possible but discouraged, and quite likely to break your ntfs drive
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Does it show partitions the same as you pasted earlier
[08:59] <Flannel> !fuse
[08:59] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:59] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[08:59] <Exclamation> i dont understand why no of the experts in here can help me... :(
[08:59] <j`ey> http://pastie.caboo.se/11671
[08:59] <lupine_85> make a backup first :)
[09:00] <lupine_85> Exclamation: what chipset?
[09:00] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastie.caboo.se/11671
[09:00] <tristan_> Exclamation, do you choose DHCP?
[09:00] <Exclamation> lupine_85, broadcom, but i belive its setup correctly
[09:00] <feryana> seems that now is installing, anyways I downloading the alternatre
[09:00] <Exclamation> Tristan, yes, its set to dhcp
[09:00] <lupine_85> ok, dump networkmanager and go to console
[09:00] <feryana> is wierd coz sometimes get frozen other times no
[09:00] <Flannel> anon32: read that link
[09:01] <anon32> 404
[09:01] <anon32> sorry
[09:01] <lupine_85> what does "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" give you? (I think it's eth1, change if needed)
[09:01] <adamant1988> !seen atoponce
[09:01] <ubotu> atoponce is on IRC right now!
[09:01] <lupine_85> anon32: grub-install <drive>
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Got it thanks.. click on ntfs
[09:01] <anon32> ok
[09:01] <lupine_85> e.g. sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: partitions should show at top of screen
[09:01] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to play flv files ?
[09:01] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[09:01] <tristan_> ProN00b, you can play it in mplayer
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: arrow above that resize
[09:02] <ProN00b> tristan_, but i can't seek
[09:02] <Flannel> anon32: it's not a 404, its a bit slow though: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:02] <Exclamation> in iwconfig, RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off. does that mean anything?
[09:02] <eod_punk> anyone know of a way to disable the password prompt when opening a laptop LCD?
[09:02] <anon32> pronoob: try gnash
[09:02] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: on the biggest 30 gb drive?
[09:02] <anon32> it works for flash up to v7
[09:02] <|thunder> thanks alot everyone, that BIOS tip got my KB working in DOS. cudos
[09:02] <ProN00b> tristan_, if i try to seek forward or backwards it just quits
[09:02] <rapha> Hi all!
[09:02] <ProN00b> anon32, whats gnash ?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> 34gig
[09:02] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow:
[09:03] <j`ey> yeh
[09:03] <feryana> hawking pcmecia wifi doesn't need drivers!!!!!!!!!!
[09:03] <bannedbruenig> gnash = gnu flash
[09:03] <anon32> pronoob: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNASH
[09:03] <rapha> Does somebody know the name of the software that does Compositing for Win XP?
[09:03] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: resize options?
[09:03] <ProN00b> anon32, i can't find it in the repos
[09:03] <tristan_> ProN00b, same here. Sorry, I don't know how to seek
[09:03] <foo> Why doesn't this visudo entry work? foo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ? I type sudo su - and it still asks for password.
[09:03] <anon32> pronoob: install it manually then
[09:03] <UKMatt> I have a broken X (graphics), and I think it's because of the NVidea graphics i put on, does anyone know how to fix that
[09:03] <looktj> clearzen: vmware didnt remove
[09:03] <bannedbruenig> ProN00b, it isn't available in the repos, have to get it from their site
[09:03] <clearzen> how did you install it?
[09:03] <bannedbruenig> !nvidia
[09:03] <anon32> this is probably the wrong place to ask, but how can I flash my bios?
[09:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:03] <ProN00b> anon32, you sure i can seek with it ?
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: You are at resize options...  you want to reduce the middle number by 10 gigs or so..
[09:04] <absolut> Hye, anybody know how to enable/disable 5.1 surround with Ubuntu?
[09:04] <frying_fish> anon32: depends on hte motherboard.
[09:04] <anon32> pronoob: zzz....
[09:04] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: k
[09:04] <lupine_85> anon32: check with your mobo manufacturere
[09:04] <feryana> on a Pentium III with 640 MB of RAM Dapper Dake will work fine ,right????
[09:04] <UKMatt> bannedbruenig, i already put them on, i think thats what broke it
[09:04] <looktj> it is vmware server
[09:04] <anon32> frying_fish: I know... my main problem is that I have a phoenix bios, and I can't find instructions on flashing
[09:04] <|thunder> feryana, yes sir
[09:04] <rapha> feryana: yes
[09:04] <lupine_85> and get it right or you'll be left with a useless chunk of silicon and fibreglass ;)
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: you want ) free preceeding  and all free following
[09:04] <anon32> feryana: yes
[09:04] <frying_fish> check with the manufacturer.
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> 0
[09:04] <anon32> though I recommend a new CPU
[09:04] <clearzen> but how did you install the package? from source?
[09:04] <feryana> cool, then now on both computers Linux
[09:04] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: done that
[09:04] <feryana> I have a last questing
[09:04] <clearzen> did you use aptitude
[09:04] <lupine_85> feryana: xubuntu would run fine
[09:04] <anon32> frying_fish: they refuse to help me flash my bios :-(
[09:04] <looktj> from source
[09:04] <UKMatt> clearzen, who me?
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: click on resize
[09:05] <feryana> in this pc, there still 10 Gb with fucking Windows XP
[09:05] <bannedbruenig> !language
[09:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:05] <feryana> how can I erase it and add it to Linux space?
[09:05] <clearzen>  UKMattno sorry
[09:05] <frying_fish> anon32: then uuse google or something.
[09:05] <|thunder> feryana, language warning
[09:05] <anon32> feryana: zzz.... your point? you can delete your partition
[09:05] <bannedbruenig> feryana, just use gparted and delete it
[09:05] <feryana> sorry |thunder I h8 windows  a lot
[09:05] <anon32> boot to either ubuntu or a dos cd and format over it
[09:05] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: I now have unnalloctaed of 14gb or soi
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: It could take awhile depending on your system
[09:05] <clearzen> looktj: did you use checkinstall or makeinstall to install the files?
[09:05] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: just do that?
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: click next?
[09:06] <frying_fish> feryana: just delete the windows partition once ubuntu is booted
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> but since you dont have much in XP it wont be too bad
[09:06] <|thunder> feryana, thats great. just dont cuss. there may be youngsters here
[09:06] <feryana> ok thanks!!! Then I can add it to my swapt partition?
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: click next?>
[09:06] <eod_punk> anyone know of a way to disable the password prompt when opening a laptop LCD?
[09:06] <frying_fish> then just format it to a reiserfs or ext3 partition
[09:06] <frying_fish> and mount it somehwre.
[09:06] <feryana> for having more swapt and get faster :D
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> IS it done..
[09:06] <anon32> feryana: yes, use a partition tool
[09:06] <bannedbruenig> 10 GB swap partition? probably not necessary
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: not yet, but I have to go
[09:06] <anon32> more swap is useless, get MORE RAM
[09:06] <looktj> i ran a file
[09:06] <IceTox> is it possible to change hostname without having to reboot ubuntu? If so, how? :)
[09:06] <UKMatt> is there a way to uninstall and then reinstall a graphics driver from command line
[09:06] <frying_fish> feryana: use fdisk
[09:06] <frying_fish> or gparted
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: what shall I do afterwards?
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Ok.. but yes next.. and let it run
[09:06] <frying_fish> or qparted depending on environment
[09:07] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: ill be back later
[09:07] <UKMatt> and btw talking about swap, anything over 1.5x your RAM doesn't matter
[09:07] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: I have to run
[09:07] <feryana> ok.... I'll try |thunder is just that Windows bothers me you don't imagene how, but what you say is true :P
[09:07] <looktj> i ran vmware-install.pl
[09:07] <|thunder> eod_punk, its in the BIOS. If you cant get rid of it you might have to remove the battery for a few minutes.(mobo battery) or hit the bios reset jumper.
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Once it is resized, I would back out of the installer and go back in and tell it to use all unallocated space.
[09:07] <j`ey> k
[09:07] <feryana> (I use to say sh..dows xD
[09:07] <anon32> ukmatt: yes, there's a command line package manager
[09:07] <tristan_> IceTox, you can change the hostname with
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Lots of good people here to help if I am not around
[09:07] <tristan_> IceTox, hostname new-name
[09:07] <eod_punk> thunder its not there unless ubuntu put it there
[09:07] <x_O> whats the best way to install XGL/Compiz on Ubuntu?
[09:07] <IceTox> oh cool Tristan thanks :)
[09:08] <bannedbruenig> !xgl
[09:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:08] <UKMatt> anon32, do you know how to use it to uninstall/reinstall though b/c i'm not good w/ command line
[09:08] <feryana> hhahahahhaha
[09:08] <looktj> is there any program to send ubuntu back to a certain date?
[09:08] <|thunder> eod_punk, you talking about the GDM password prompt ?
[09:08] <x_O> ah an irc just for it lol
[09:08] <feryana> nah I'm happy today, I saved my second poor pc from it
[09:08] <silian87> hello to all
[09:08] <|thunder> eod_punk, where it says UBUNTU at the brown screen ?
[09:08] <silian87> sorry, this is my problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58566
[09:08] <silian87> where i can find amarok-1.4.2-0ubuntu3  ?
[09:08] <feryana> coz it had windows 2k, and I was using firefox, thunderbird, etc... no viruses, no spyware and everyday it was going worst
[09:09] <anon32> uh, what kernel version is included on the 6.x dapper drake cds?
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: Normally I would use a backup
[09:09] <looktj> like window's system restore?
[09:09] <feryana> and yesterday I said. thats it xD
[09:09] <eod_punk> after i'm logged in if i close the lcd it asks for the password, i don't want it to i close the lid quite a bit
[09:09] <feryana> but it has a dockstation and can't boot live cd from there
[09:09] <looktj> i dont have a backup
[09:09] <anon32> feryana: um.... that's probably because of hard drive failure, my windows install is fine after a year
[09:09] <feryana> but I bought and external double layer dvd rom
[09:09] <looktj> :S
[09:09] <bannedbruenig> my repos only have 1.4.2-0ubuntu2~dapper1
[09:09] <IceTox> Trinisan, yeah, but the hostname doesn't change just by doing that, does it? don't I have to update anything?
[09:09] <feryana> anon32 nah, the hard disk is ok...
[09:09] <lupine_85> aon32: 2.6.15-23
[09:09] <silian87> bannedbruenig: Mine too :-(
[09:09] <feryana> I saw many computers like that
[09:10] <anon32> thanks, I thought it was a 2.4 kernel
[09:10] <silian87> strange they don't put a bugfux
[09:10] <eod_punk> i know the password i just don't want to be prompted for it.  I'm not talking about logging in either.  simular to how you can have it ask for it when the screen saver comes on
[09:10] <bannedbruenig> silian87, why do you need the other one?
[09:10] <clearzen> looktj: Unfortunatley I do not know how to uninstall if you installed from a script because I don't know exactly how it was installed. sorry
[09:10] <silian87> is a 4 days waiting
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I would like to stress the importance of a backup.  It just takes a minute to type one line in a terminal.  It can save you hours or work and frustration.
[09:10] <silian87> bannedbruenig: for solving this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58566
[09:10] <anon32> mm... the only problem I've ever noticed with windows is a lack of preinstalled software
[09:10] <IceTox> sudo: unable to lookup rebecca via gethostbyname() <--- Trinisan
[09:10] <feryana> anon32 in this pc there is the 10Gb windows partition... and when I have to go for something... every time there are more errors, and I never use that windows, and Linux here is working fine like always, so the hard disk is not the problem, is just Micro$oft!!!!!!
[09:11] <anon32> um, how do I get access to iptables config?
[09:11] <eod_punk> anon32, good preinstalled or bad preinstalled software?
[09:11] <anon32> preferably from the gui?
[09:11] <anon32> eod_punk: good point, :-\
[09:11] <bannedbruenig> 6 exclamation points is too far, 5 is pushing it but six is just obscene
[09:11] <looktj> jack_sparrow what kind of backup?
[09:11] <anon32> too much junk on these latest dells
[09:11] <looktj> i agree anon32
[09:11] <feryana> 68% on the other pc.... maybe I wont need the alternate
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: I use a simple one line command from cli
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[09:11] <feryana> 56% alternet download.. is like a race haha
[09:11] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[09:11] <anon32> where's the iptables config? looktj: that does help to reduce PC price though
[09:11] <eod_punk> I know of one computer manufactor that doesn't install all the crap
[09:12] <looktj> like mbr backup?
[09:12] <eod_punk> i'm sure there are more though
[09:12] <godfather> guys i did everything that was written on documentation
[09:12] <anon32> eod_punk: if you order a DELL N-series, you don't get any crap either
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: You can do that with dd
[09:12] <godfather> i've installed frostwire
[09:12] <godfather> i've installed the java lib
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: I use tar for the full Ub install
[09:12] <Drevan> finally got everything set up perfectly, feels good
[09:12] <looktj> i did a couple days ago
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Drevan: Make a backup...
[09:13] <godfather> there's the frostwire icon  beetween "internet" application but it doesn't work
[09:13] <anon32> ANYONE? where's the config for iptables? hell, is iptables even included (it should be, it's part of the kernel)
[09:13] <encryptz> jenda: yet here i am (atoponce)...
[09:13] <eod_punk> |thunder, any other idea's about the password prompt?
[09:13] <looktj> ok im gonna reinstall ubuntu
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: Yes iptables are part of the kernel..
[09:13] <looktj> since idk howto uninstall a source
[09:13] <anon32> jack_sparrow: where's the config?
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: You can use firestarter to manage the firewall.
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[09:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[09:14] <anon32> thanks
[09:14] <godfather> anyone can help me
[09:14] <|thunder> eod_punk, i dont think you can auto-login on linux/ubuntu. not that I know of anyways.
[09:14] <looktj> anon32: sudo aptitude install firestarter
[09:14] <anon32> say, it's called iptables/netfilter is there a difference between the two?
[09:14] <anon32> looktj: argh, more installing...
[09:14] <eod_punk> I know how to auto login, i just want to do away with being asked to put my password in after I open my lcd screen
[09:15] <frying_fish> |thunder: you can set up auto login
[09:15] <foo> Why doesn't this visudo entry work? foo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ? I type sudo su - and it still asks for password.
[09:15] <looktj> *pops in live cd* off to reinstall ubuntu
[09:15] <frying_fish> eod_punk: ahh that, I have that as well, I suppose I could look into changing that behaviour, but its useful at the same time.
[09:15] <anon32> hmm, what about secure logon? like "press ctrl+alt+del to start"?
[09:15] <borstalbreakout> i am very new to linux and ubuntu, but i have a question. i have a 30 gigabyte folder of music on my harddrive that i do not want to lose. i want to know if there is any way to slap ubuntu on my windows partition and have it boot ubuntu instead of windows, and then i can delete the WINDOWS folder and all the other crap, but keep my music folder. is this possible?
[09:15] <feryana> 89%
[09:15] <feryana> :)
[09:16] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: nope,
[09:16] <eod_punk> frying_fish, not for me If i want it locked I will lock it
[09:16] <feryana> my little piii is doing fine
[09:16] <anon32> borstalbreakout: vmware, though your performance will suck
[09:16] <feryana> pIII
[09:16] <borstalbreakout> couldnt get it work on vmware either
[09:16] <borstalbreakout> that sucks
[09:16] <PanicFo> how do i remove a service from a runlevel?
[09:16] <anon32> is there a way to get a secure logon prompt? such as "press ctrl+alt+del to start"?
[09:16] <borstalbreakout> if i got windows and ubuntu to dualboot could i still access the music with both of them?
[09:16] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: no, it's because you cannot make a whole new filesystem format and expect it to know the exact cylinders and how things were stored in another format.
[09:16] <jgerber> cant get new sessions configured under System->sessions to show up under the gdm sessions menu...
[09:16] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: yes.
[09:16] <anon32> borstalbreakout: um... and no, you can't run linux off of a NTFS partition
[09:16] <esc> how do i get at CPU temp?
[09:17] <anon32> you should... BACKUP
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> damn
[09:17] <frying_fish> you can't run off ntfs though.
[09:17] <eod_punk> stick a thermometer in its mouth lol sorry
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> its too big to backup, otherwise i would
[09:17] <anon32> buy a hard drive, they're not that expensive
[09:17] <jgerber> you could convert the ntfs to fat
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> well my drive is mtfs i believe
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> that sucks
[09:17] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: its not to big if you have a spare partition big enough to house it
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> ntfs*
[09:17] <anon32> jgerber: at his own risk though
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> i dont
[09:17] <eod_punk> esc, maybe a gdesklet?
[09:17] <frying_fish> could always buy another
[09:18] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, generally what you do is: you shrink your windows partition, install ubuntu on the free space and read your windows partition from ubuntu
[09:18] <PanicFo> is there any documentation on how runlevels and daemons work?
[09:18] <anon32> *buy a new hard drive* they're pretty cheap, I'm getting a 100GB one for $20
[09:18] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, don't listen to the other bozos in here, they are on dope
[09:18] <frying_fish> PanicFo: lots from google
[09:18] <jgerber> annon32: of course
[09:18] <borstalbreakout> well how would i go about doing that?
[09:18] <anon32> borstalbreakout: doing what?
[09:18] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, well, how much space do you have left on that windows partition ?
[09:18] <anon32> buying a new hard drive? or resizing?
[09:18] <borstalbreakout> what ProN00b said
[09:19] <borstalbreakout> about 15 gigs
[09:19] <anon32> resizing can be done with gparted
[09:19] <looktj> no backups sucks
[09:19] <ProN00b> 15 gigs is good
[09:19] <borstalbreakout> what i want to backup is over 30 gigs though
[09:19] <looktj> i wish i knew command to backup
[09:19] <anon32> pronoob: I was under the impression that the less space, the higher the risk of partition damag
[09:19] <looktj> and put in tar
[09:19] <jgerber> annon32: i had the best experience installing linux ever with dapper. resized my xp partition and set up a dual no problem
[09:20] <godfather> anyone who has installed frostwire?
[09:20] <eod_punk> dapper is good for that, i had a nice experience with it as well
[09:20] <anon32> mm, I don't feel like playing russian roulette with my hard drive
[09:20] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, get like partition magic or something, or get the gparted bootdisk or something, and make your windows partition smaller so you have about 15 gigs to install ubuntu
[09:20] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, then just install on that space
[09:20] <jgerber> now i am having lots of fun with xgl and compiz
[09:20] <eod_punk> xgl is pretty sweet
[09:20] <borstalbreakout> is there maybe a howto on this...
[09:20] <godfather> please help me
[09:20] <eod_punk> mmm rain drops
[09:20] <godfather> with java
[09:20] <frying_fish> looktj: tar cjf backup.tar.bz2 /bin /etc /var   (and so on)
[09:20] <frying_fish> but make sure you are in /
[09:20] <borstalbreakout> i fucked up another computer trying to install linux
[09:21] <jgerber> eye candy.... fun stuff. I just want to set up two sessions... one with xgl and one without.
[09:21] <anon32> oh yea, you can only resize by as much as the last non-fragmented section of your partion.
[09:21] <jgerber> i dont understand why the system->sessions isnt working for this
[09:21] <eod_punk> the tutorial I went through had me do that
[09:21] <anon32> you should defrag first, borstalbreakout
[09:21] <looktj> !language
[09:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:21] <anon32> family friendly? only ubernerds even know what ubuntu is
[09:21] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: tar -cvpzlf /backup.tgz --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz /   is what I use...
[09:22] <borstalbreakout> oh well
[09:22] <tristan_> Does someone know if in the new Ubuntu kernel, Toshiba ACPI will be precompiled?
[09:22] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: that does it too
[09:22] <borstalbreakout> im even more confused about this now
[09:22] <skirk> hi
[09:22] <anon32> that's what you get for asking on an IRC channel :-p
[09:22] <borstalbreakout> heh
[09:22] <bob_jensen> hi all
[09:22] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, you just gotta resize your partition, i am sure you can find on google how to do that nicely, if you have free space you can install ubuntu there safely
[09:22] <eod_punk> sometimes you get an answer sometimes you get to many answers
[09:22] <skirk> how can i install BitTorrent??????
[09:23] <looktj> anyone know chell?
[09:23] <borstalbreakout> gparted is the program i use for that, right?
[09:23] <ProN00b> skirk, FAIL !
[09:23] <eod_punk> isn't it installed automatically?
[09:23] <bob_jensen> i am going to show off ubuntu to a friend tomorrow .. and i want the experience to be extremely smooth :) he has a core duo pentium D processor .. which kernel is right for him /
[09:23] <skirk> :S
[09:23] <skirk> what?
[09:23] <anon32> borstalbreakout: but remember, only by as much as your largest unfragmented free section
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> borstalbreakout: That will do it yes.
[09:23] <jgerber> i like partition magic... never has failed me
[09:23] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, or partition magic
[09:23] <tristan_> bob_jensen, i386
[09:23] <bob_jensen> and he has an ati xpress 200 onboard card ... do i install the fglrx drivers ?
[09:23] <looktj> he walked me through installing vmware server
[09:23] <borstalbreakout> alright
[09:23] <godfather> guys,
[09:23] <anon32> so, that's slightly less than your total free space
[09:23] <borstalbreakout> expect me in here later
[09:23] <eod_punk> skirk, bit torrent was auto installed for me
[09:23] <looktj> brb
[09:23] <skirk> mmm
[09:23] <bob_jensen> tristan_: ouch, the default i386 kernel ?
[09:23] <bob_jensen> not i686 smp ?
[09:24] <anon32> bob_jensen: too bad all the good features on the ati cards are missing with linux drivers :-\
[09:24] <godfather> is there anyone who installed frostwire resolving java problem
[09:24] <tristan_> bob_jensen, with a live CD of Dapper I think that everything should run fine
[09:24] <borstalbreakout> is there maybe a way i could install ubuntu and use a boot cd to get into it, like dynebolic
[09:24] <bob_jensen> tristan_: yes, but he says his resolution is something like 340*XXX
[09:24] <skirk> i cant see BITTORRENT.......
[09:24] <bob_jensen> like the old vga displays (in his words :P)
[09:24] <feryana> ACCOMPLISHED
[09:24] <tristan_> anon32, well I have an ATI and did not install any drivers and I have 3D accell and nice rendering so it is just what I wanted
[09:24] <Jack_Sparrow> bob_jensen: ati isnt giving out any info.. maybe with AMD now they will
[09:24] <borstalbreakout> bittorrent is on the add or remove programs thing i think
[09:24] <feryana> lol alternate downloaded in 20 mins xDDDDDDDDDD
[09:24] <anon32> mm... but for stuff like dynamic overclocking and SLI?
[09:25] <skirk> ok i try
[09:25] <Vehendi> Does ubuntu work on an ati radeon x800 gto
[09:25] <bob_jensen> i think he's got the baddest of them all ..  intel dual core, ati, and an lcd screen :P :P :P .. how do i go about now ? :(
[09:25] <feryana> b
[09:25] <feryana> n
[09:25] <feryana> now I don't need it
[09:25] <feryana> it installed with the desktop CD
[09:25] <feryana> zS
[09:25] <ProN00b> bob_jensen, install him windows xp so he can play his counterstrike
[09:25] <tristan_> bob_jensen, what would be his computer?
[09:25] <bob_jensen> ProN00b: that's already done ;)
[09:25] <bob_jensen> tristan_: assembled, not any brand
[09:25] <borstalbreakout> is there maybe a way i could install ubuntu and use a boot cd to get into it, like dynebolic
[09:26] <tristan_> bob_jensen, did he try any live CD?
[09:26] <borstalbreakout> instead of grub
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot
[09:26] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:26] <bob_jensen> i mainly want to ask - 1) what kernel ? 2) do i install fglrx or no ? 3) how do i set display right ?
[09:26] <clearzen> borstalbreakout: you can access any kind of filesystem with a live cd as far as I know.
[09:26] <bob_jensen> tristan_: he did .. net not working, bad resolution
[09:26] <bob_jensen> the only complains
[09:26] <jgerber> anyone notice that you cannot seem to add a session via system->sessions?????
[09:26] <rafael-ec> how can i shar my printer over the lan to other linux machines
[09:26] <clearzen> at least i haven't found one they don't work on
[09:26] <rafael-ec> using cups and ipp?
[09:26] <jgerber> it looks like it works through the interface, but it doesnt add a session to the session menu
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> ubuntus not letting me see into my harddrive...
[09:27] <tristan_> bob_jensen, 1) kernel should be i386 because he has an intel proc. 2) fglrx should be default install for ATI card, I think
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> it says unable to mount or something
[09:27] <clearzen> is your hdd mounted?
[09:27] <bob_jensen> also, his net is the one with static ip in ethernet lan card .. easy enough i guess?
[09:27] <ProN00b> tristan_, why no i686 ?
[09:27] <absolut> is there a way to run Steam through cedega? right now it's been popping errors for me
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> i dont know what that means
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> im very new to linux
[09:27] <\usr\Cyph> pls, what is the requeriment to run the ubuntu?
[09:27] <b0ysc0ut> how can i find out how many people r log in into my computer?
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> borstalbreakout: Is it a raid array
[09:27] <bob_jensen> tristan_: why not i686 smp ? i use i686 for my p3 :) .. and smp because he has dual core ..?
[09:27] <ProN00b> absolut, i am pretty sure you can get support from cedega makers for that
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> what?
[09:28] <tristan_> Yes why not? ;)
[09:28] <absolut> k...gonna check their site
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> borstalbreakout: The drive you cannot see.  Is it setup as raid?
[09:28] <borstalbreakout> i dont know what that means...
[09:28] <borstalbreakout> i feel really stupid right now
[09:28] <skirk> i dont see BITTORRENT :/
[09:28] <godfather> i need to install java
[09:28] <clearzen> first mkdir /mnt/harddrive
[09:28] <clearzen> try this mount -t ext 3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/harddrive -v
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[09:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:28] <bob_jensen> tristan_: and ubuntu installs fglrx, the proprietary driver, by default ?!
[09:28] <godfather> anyone could help me?
[09:28] <bionoid> Hm I just installed Xgl/compiz and it works well. A little laggy when dragging windows and such, but very workable. However, firefox seems to resist more than any other application - there is a two-second (literally) response time for each letter I type, whether in the address bar, arrow-key for scrolling or in a form field. Any tips on that?
[09:28] <ProN00b> ls
[09:28] <eod_punk> i forget how I found it skirk i'm still looking though
[09:29] <skirk> ok
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> well what does raid mean?
[09:29] <clearzen> borstalbreakout: did you catch that?
[09:29] <lassegs> hi. I have a problem with my ATI card. The 3d acceleration doesnt work. can anyone help me please!
[09:29] <eod_punk> skirk, it wasn't listed at first but i found it and made it listed in the menu
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> i clicked the link but i still dont even know what hes talking about
[09:29] <skirk> ok
[09:29] <\usr\Cyph> someone can help me?
[09:29] <nahoj> any idea on how to get a laptop connect to a (otherwise) working internet?
[09:29] <clearzen> borstalbreakout: raid is when you have serveral hdd acting together in a array
[09:29] <shadow42> nahoj: Ethernet cable?
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> no
[09:29] <anon32> shadow42: !!!!!!!
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> theres only one
[09:29] <RMorris85> im having a problem copying files... it says cp: omitting directory
[09:30] <omairaslam> how do i find out the version number of my currently running ubuntu ?
[09:30] <shadow42> anon32: You didn't know I was in here?
[09:30] <bbrazil> omairaslam: lsb_release -a
[09:30] <slacker_nl> omairaslam: cat /etc/lsb_relase
[09:30] <slacker_nl> s/relase/release
[09:30] <nahoj> shadow42, yes, DMZ straight to internet, works with my laptop but not with my friends..
[09:30] <omairaslam> thanks slacker
[09:30] <eod_punk> skirk, applications-add/remove  then go to internet and you should see bit torrent listed first
[09:30] <anon32> shadow42: kickbanned again....
[09:30] <anon32> :-\
[09:30] <rcmiv> quit
[09:30] <rcmiv> ?quit
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> this is what it says when i try to get into it:
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> unalbe to mount selected volume
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> error: device /dev/sda2 is not removable
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> error: could not execute pmount
[09:30] <skirk> ok eod_punk , i see it, bur i cant link on my Desktop :/
[09:31] <clearzen> borstalbreakout:: first mkdir /mnt/harddrive
[09:31] <clearzen>  clearzen: try this mount -t ext 3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/harddrive -v
[09:31] <tristan_> bob_jensen, when I installed ubuntu, fglrx was default install for my ATI
[09:31] <slacker_nl> part #ubuntu
[09:31] <lassegs> the problem is that even with a xorg.conf that i think is proper and a fglrx i think is ok installed, a fgl_glxgears that shows 550 fps,  the s3dscreensavers and all 3d acceleration doesnt work
[09:31] <eod_punk> ok then its a matter of making it listed in your menu and i forget how i did that as well.  one more sec
[09:31] <bob_jensen> tristan_: wow, thats great ! you used the official live cd ? i find it surprising since ubuntu doesnt install any restricted or otherwise non free stuff by default
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !3d
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <rcmiv> using vmware player, can I safely open a .vmx housed on an XP partition, or is NTFS an issue (writing to that file, etc)
[09:32] <borstalbreakout> alright, whatever
[09:32] <borstalbreakout> im sticking with windows
[09:32] <bob_jensen> !ati
[09:32] <tristan_> bob_jensen, yes i use official Kubuntu install CD
[09:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:32] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, i dont just need basic information :p
[09:32] <borstalbreakout> at least i know what people are talking about then
[09:32] <Otacon22> c' modo di collegare uno schermo lcd di un portatile a un fisso tramtie connettore VGA ???
[09:32] <bob_jensen> tristan_: ah, thats _great_ .. he will be installed kubuntu too :-)
[09:32] <nalioth> !it
[09:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:32] <skirk> lol Otacon22, non dovresti parlare inglese?
[09:32] <sfp> is there a way to start the vnc server via ssh?
[09:32] <Otacon22> sig, infatti ho incollato male
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[09:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:33] <RMorris85> if i had a directory on my desktop named skin that i need to copy to /usr/share/pixmaps/ what command would i need to put in the terminal to replace the directory that is there already
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[09:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:33] <eod_punk> skirk, right click the applications menu and click "edit menu"
[09:33] <sfp> !vncserver
[09:33] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[09:33] <nalioth> Jack_Sparrow: he's speaking italian
[09:33] <sfp> !vnc server start
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vnc server start - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <skirk> thanks eod_punk !!! :)
[09:33] <eod_punk> np skirk
[09:33] <nahoj> the laptop is connected via ethernet, ifdown eth0 followed by ifup eth0 does not work.. it keeps running on lo..
[09:33] <Vehendi> When trying to boot from a live cd ubuntu gives an x server failure - I have a ATI radeon x800 gto
[09:33] <ansic> evening all
[09:34] <rcmiv> using vmware player, can I safely open a .vmx housed on an XP partition, or is NTFS an issue (writing to that file, etc)
[09:34] <RMorris85> if i had a directory on my desktop named skin that i need to copy to /usr/share/pixmaps/ what command would i need to put in the terminal to replace the directory that is there already
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> nalioth: Got it.. realized my mistake and corrected it.. thanks
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Grazi
[09:34] <ansic> gratzi mille ;)
[09:34] <jjwalker> Hey guys.. and girls :)
[09:34] <tristan_> nahoj, I had that problem one time and I had to add irqpol in the option of grub boot
[09:34] <feryana> hey guys!, I have in the other pc wi-fi connection, I can find available connections, i connect to one but internet doesn't works (but I can see working the little screens, what did I miss???
[09:35] <jjwalker> i'm new too linux but am picking up Ubuntu really fast and i love it
[09:35] <nahoj> tristan, how do i do that? n00b here...
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ansic: seems I cant spell in any language..
[09:35] <jjwalker> i have seen some screenshots of linux destops with graphical app runningon the desktop monitoring the resources and whatnot.. anyone know what program that is?
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jjwalker: I'm thinking gdesklets
[09:36] <anon32> too bad ubuntu comes with no good software, I thought that was a strong point of linux?
[09:36] <RMorris85> Jack_Sparrow: if i had a directory on my desktop named skin that i need to copy to /usr/share/pixmaps/ what command would i need to put in the terminal to replace the directory that is there already
[09:36] <tristan_> nahoj, open a terminal and type cd /boot/grub
[09:36] <sfp> !remote desktop
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <anon32> !vpn
[09:36] <ansic> anon32 there is plenty of good software
[09:36] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[09:36] <tristan_> nahoj, then sudo gedit menu.lst
[09:36] <ansic> depending on what you're looking for
[09:36] <feryana> !wifi
[09:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:36] <jhawk> jjwalker gkrellm?
[09:36] <UKMatt> How do you look up where a program is saved (where it's source is)
[09:37] <ansic> UKMatt its pre-compiled
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85: I would cheat and run gksudo nautilus...
[09:37] <b0ysc0ut> yah
[09:37] <anon32> ansic: but nothing functional preinstalled, and I thought that was a strong point of linux distros
[09:37] <tristan_> nahoj, then go down until you see End Default Option
[09:37] <ansic> anon32 such as ?
[09:37] <clearzen> anon32: Are you serious? It completely free and all the software is very functional. It even comes with firefox as a default browser. Tell me IE is better.
[09:37] <ansic> what are you expecting to be installed ?
[09:37] <anon32> um.... there's no default installed media player... or one that's anywhere near decent
[09:37] <Phoul> !who's your daddy
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who's your daddy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Phoul> Aww
[09:37] <jjwalker> gdesktop
[09:37] <anon32> lol
[09:37] <jjwalker> or gkrellm
[09:38] <jjwalker> i will check them both out
[09:38] <tristan_> nahoj, on the line first line when you see ro quiet splash, add just after irqpoll
[09:38] <clearzen> anon32:It works fine you just need additional codecs
[09:38] <clearzen> anon32:packages I mean
[09:38] <lassegs> !codecs > anon32
[09:38] <anon32> clearzen: but it should *come* with those packages... or at least with an mplayer preinstall
[09:38] <tristan_> nahoj, then tell me when done
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: If you have a problem we can fix please ask.  If you just want to chat about what is not installed try #Ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <eod_punk> Has anyone tried getting all the buttons working in ubuntu?  I've read up on it but haven't tried it yet.
[09:39] <nahoj> tristan, thx... right now I am having trouble with starting the terminal, when I have fixed that I will try it out! ;-)
[09:39] <clearzen> anon32:As far as i understand it is not legal for them to provide all of them free of charge
[09:39] <anon32> there's a -offtopic?
[09:39] <eod_punk> *all the buttons on a logitech mouse
[09:39] <lassegs> i have a problem you can fix but noone wants to answer, never. why is that.
[09:39] <ansic> lassegs whats the problem
[09:39] <anon32> mm.... there's something illegal with shipping xvid and libmpg?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> lassegs,  patience is a virtue. and the wiki/forums are also great
[09:39] <lassegs> the problem is that even with a xorg.conf that i think is proper and a fglrx i think is ok installed, a fgl_glxgears that shows 550 fps,  the s3dscreensavers and all 3d acceleration doesnt work
[09:39] <anon32> mighta misspelled that second one
[09:39] <minerale> Hi, how can I take a screnshot from a .mov clip ?
[09:40] <clearzen> no but libdvdcss2 might cause a wave or 2
[09:40] <lassegs> i know about the forums and the wikis but they arent real people :P
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Then your drivers are not installed correctly...
[09:40] <minerale> I tried the screenshot button, but that places a weird color block isstead of the frame from the movie
[09:40] <eod_punk> you could draw a box around it with the super key to get the screen shot
[09:40] <ansic> lassegs are you using nvidia or ati cards ?
[09:40] <anon32> clearzen: but as far as I know, libdvdcss is perfectly legal
[09:40] <ansic> anon32 not in all countries
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> some days i wonder if ANYTHING is legal. :P
[09:40] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, i understood that. thats why i reinstalled them. wanna take a look at my xorg.conf? (in pastebin of course)
[09:40] <anon32> and you didn't answer my question.... what's wrong with mp3 and xvid then?
[09:41] <ansic> anon32 you pick what you want
[09:41] <lassegs> ansic, since im using fglrx i have a ati card
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I dont use ati but I would be happy to see if anything is obvious.
[09:41] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:41] <ansic> personal choice is part of what its all about
[09:41] <eod_punk> don't some distros have that stuff preinstalled?
[09:41] <exs> Hello. is it easy to compile Gaim beta 2.0?
[09:41] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, thx, 1 sec
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> eod_punk,  i know of 1 that has some of the stuff installed.
[09:41] <skirk> ciao tuxtux
[09:41] <graft> hey i'm trying to nfs-mount this directory through a firewall but the simple and obvious isn't working - what do i need to do to get this working?
[09:41] <anon32> mm...
[09:41] <ansic> lassegs be careful with the driver versions the ati drivers (3rd party) provide varying results with various cards
[09:41] <eod_punk> it would be nice if someof that was already working.  it would elliminate alot of hassel
[09:41] <ansic> graft nfs/portmapper
[09:42] <ansic> check your firewall
[09:42] <graft> ansic: well i have no control over the firewall, it's some router
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Which ati card, and I hope not the 200
[09:42] <lassegs> ansic, yeah, but they worked perf. on my last install of ubuntu on the same machine, same version(both ubuntu and the driver
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> graft: Whos' router?
[09:42] <ansic> lassegs same card ?
[09:42] <ansic> graft then your screwed
[09:42] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, I know about the issue, but my card is the Radeon Mobility x700
[09:43] <lassegs> ansic, yes :P
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:43] <graft> dang
[09:43] <lassegs> here http://pastebin.ca/160852
[09:44] <skirk> there is Gnome for Back Trace??? www.remote-exploit.org
[09:44] <anon32> !av
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <ingenium> my sound just stopped working. it's not muted and the volume is up all the way
[09:45] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, i just realized that the opengloverlay was off... trying with that one on... :)
[09:45] <nich0s> ingenium, When did it stop working?
[09:45] <RMorris84> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks! ;)
[09:45] <ingenium> about a week ago
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: That is one ugly xorg, even the res settings only show vesa res..
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: ?
[09:46] <skirk> lol
[09:46] <skirk> :D
[09:46] <RMorris84> for the gksudo natilius
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: Ah.. ok
[09:46] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, its the default aticonfig xorg, with a few modifications...
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: Short term memory loss
[09:46] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, and its only ugly on the outside
[09:46] <RMorris84> wacky tobaky
[09:47] <ingenium> nich0s: it's as though the sound is muted, even though it's not
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: That card will do better res than your xorg shows
[09:47] <eod_punk> later all
[09:47] <ansic> xorg always plays it safe at detection
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: Glad that got it taken care of for you.
[09:47] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow,  i know, and the strange thing is; it actually does :P. Im running 1280x800 as we speak
[09:48] <silian87> sorry, how I tell apt-get to remove ONLY a package and NOT his dependences?
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: You are running a higher res than any shown in your xorg..
[09:48] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, That isnt really that wierd since you are reading the vesa screen and not the aticonfig-screen[0] 
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Sorry that was for lass
[09:49] <ubuntu> Q   on the live cd installer where does it mount / for installation?  is it /target like it was last year ?
[09:49] <ubuntu> i'm trying to install on sda.   and from the live cd that is proving to be near impossable......
[09:50] <silian87> bye, thk
[09:50] <yugge> I think i messed my usb up
[09:50] <nownot> i have xgl running but i have two monitors and xgl on two monitors isnt so good right now, so i was wanting to have a xorg.conf for xgl and one for regular session is this possilbe?
[09:50] <anon32> ubuntu: ....nice username
[09:50] <Flannel> nownot: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl will be of more assistance
[09:50] <ubuntu> anon32: it's the live cd.  duh
[09:50] <shadow42> Haha
[09:50] <lassegs> im trying with some new adjustments. be back in a sec. btw, thx for looking in to it, ive been asking this same question for a week and havent got one single response
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Sorry but I dont have an answer, never have messed with ati..
[09:51] <nownot> well i was wondering if you can specify a xorg.conf for each session
[09:51] <yugge> I _think_ i messed it up when i compiled the new version of libusb, anyone know how I can restore everything?
[09:51] <bulio> I hve a home server running. I would like to put all of my music on it, so that it is playable from any machine on my network
[09:51] <bulio>  what would be the best program to do this+
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I may not know the answer but I can at least listen
[09:51] <StoneNote> !best
[09:51] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:52] <bulio> well, a program
[09:52] <kaos|stormchas3r> My volume gui is not coming up anymore.
[09:52] <bulio> I've never done this before
[09:52] <ubuntu> command to close an irssi window ?
[09:52] <morodock> bulio - you just want to have the music shared? like a samba share? or you actually want a web based management program or something?
[09:52] <Flannel> bulio: either set up file sharing networking (samba) and then you basically play the music as if it were on your HD, or set up something like icecast, that'll stream the music, like internet radio
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: Are you just trying to setup a server where users can pull their music and play locally?
[09:53] <Flannel> ubotu: /quit
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <Flannel> er, guess he found it
[09:53] <bulio> Jack_Sparrow: I want to store all the music on the server. Then, have people access the music via the player of their choice
[09:53] <bulio> or a web-based interface
[09:54] <eternalswd> is there a guide somewhere for mounting and unmounting external usb drives?
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: Local net only or over the web as well?
[09:54] <bulio> Local net only
[09:54] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, damn it. with the "OpenGLOverlay" "on" it didnt even manage to run openGL, as it did with that switched to "off"
[09:54] <bulio> but I don't mind either way
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: linux and windows users or just linux
[09:55] <bulio> Jack_Sparrow: windows
[09:55] <yugge> Anyone got any idea with my usb problem??
[09:55] <inam> eternalswd: i just did it two days ago... what problem are you facing ?
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I know you have probably done this before but reinstall the drivers starting from scratch and the drivers linked from our bot, then try others if you need
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > bulio
[09:56] <lassegs> yugge, could you please repeat what was your problem. just joined :)
[09:56] <StoneNote> bulio, I found this and you can get it via apt-get install gnump3d but I've never used it so I can't be of more help http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/
[09:56] <eternalswd> inam, I just need to know how to do it properly
[09:56] <yugge> I _think_ i messed it up when i compiled the new version of libusb, anyone know how I can restore everything?
[09:56] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, i was thinking about doing the same thing... done it before though
[09:56] <bulio> Thanks guys
[09:56] <bulio> so samba would make a network drive
[09:56] <yugge> Now nothing works when I connect it
[09:57] <lassegs> yugge, your computer freezes or the usb doesnt work?
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: yes you would have a setup that windows could read...
[09:57] <inam> eternalswd: just plug it into the USB and see if it works... if you just bought it from a store, it is probably in windows NTFS format and it might mount it as read only.
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I wish I had a better answer
[09:57] <yugge> lassegs: usb don't work
[09:57] <inam> eternalswd: in which case, re-partition it to a linux partition
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: HE compiled his own usb..
[09:58] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, thanks anyway. its really nice to get some help sometimes
[09:58] <GreenMan> hello
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Yea.. or a shoulder to cry on as the case may be
[09:58] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, yugge , when you say nothing works you dont know
[09:58] <eternalswd> inam, mounting works fine on boot-up automatically.  I want to know how to safely unmount it so I can transfer files to my other computer
[09:58] <MetaMorfoziS> !5.1
[09:58] <GreenMan> can somebody help me?
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <inam> eternalswd: you click to right click on the icon in your desktop and choose eject... it should then be safe to remove the usb cable
[09:59] <MetaMorfoziS> can anybody help me about setting up 5.1 sound in an integrated card?
[09:59] <lassegs> yugge, ok, so have you tried to delete the libusb files and install the one from the repositories?
[09:59] <inam> !rar
[09:59] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:59] <marshall> does anybody know how to apply the save song patch to last-exit?
[09:59] <morodock> !help
[09:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:00] <yugge> lassegs: yes
[10:00] <Nookie> what kind of "GOOD" ftp clients there is out there,.. any siuggestions?
[10:00] <phiber_optic> what is the command to check which groups do I belong to?
[10:00] <lassegs> yugge, hmmm. tricky
[10:00] <yugge> lassegs: usbview find my hosts, but not the things i connect
[10:00] <Flannel> Nookie: there's one built in.  go to places > connect to server
[10:00] <eternalswd> inam, I'd like to know how to do it from the terminal.  Nautilus has been acting up recently.
[10:01] <inam> eternalswd, i think it must be something like umount /dev/sda
[10:01] <lassegs> yugge, im sorry but thats as far as my knowledge about usb extends. Not very much im afraid
[10:01] <inam> eternalswd, it could be sdb or sdc depending on how may drives you have connected...
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> yugge: what was the reason you chose to compile your own?
[10:02] <eternalswd> inam, okay, so it's just like a normal unmount?
[10:02] <morodock> can someone point me in the direction of some good repositories to add to synaptic besides the default?
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !seveas
[10:02] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:02] <caseyomah> How do I chmod a vfat mount point to 4444? I can't "sudo chmod 4444 /mount/point"
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> caseyomah,  you dont chmod a mount point
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> 4444 ?
[10:02] <sobersabre> hi, I have a webcam. how do I use it under ubuntu ?
[10:02] <morodock> thanks jack
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:02] <yugge> Jack_Sparrow: It couldnt indentify my scanner, so the hpoj docs sugested updating libusb
[10:02] <Seveas> caseyomah, mount -o umask 0022
[10:03] <inam> eternalswd, i suppose so... but i use "eject" always... it gives me a progress bar saying that it is writing all cached stuff etc...
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> caseyomah,  reas that url and  how the umask and other options work
[10:03] <sobersabre> [ i have plugged it in and it doesn't work out of the box ] 
[10:03] <inam> eternalswd, i wish i knew more to help you :)
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[10:03] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:04] <deedubb> Hello. Can someone please tell me what the command is to change the default editor again?
[10:04] <lassegs> eternalswd, i can help you, its easy
[10:04] <lassegs> eternalswd, easy as pie
[10:04] <yugge> Jack_Sparrow: I might already then, have had a problem. I know my psx usb adapter stopped working late last night, but i didn't do anything special, so I just thought that Id had to reboot the machine.
[10:04] <root_> hello?
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> 884 people say hello back
[10:05] <eternalswd> lassegs, please describe
[10:05] <skirk> hello root_
[10:05] <skirk> :D
[10:05] <lassegs> eternalswd, you just type 'sudo umount /dev/yourusbdevice' in the terminal
[10:05] <x_O> I am in an IRC based chat client, lol. My XORG is busted and I can't log back in... :(
[10:05] <x_O> But I managed to install Bitchx, and Lynx, lol.
[10:05] <deedubb> Come on peepz, don't make me repeat and get in trouble for it
[10:05] <deedubb> I know you know!
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> deedubb,  ya mean the update-alternatives thing?
[10:06] <deedubb> thats it? I'll try
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> deedubb: system/prefernces/prefered
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> with some options. :P
[10:06] <eternalswd> lassegs, okay, so I don't need to do anything special, just a normal unmount?  Will it automount when I plug it back in?
[10:06] <manstoke> why does the installer list Macromedia Flash but then fail to install?
[10:06] <lassegs> eternalswd, i would guess so, yes. but no harm in trying, if it doesnt we'll just fix your fstab so it does
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> manstoke: HAve you changed any repos?
[10:07] <deedubb> thank you, I got it, update-alternatives --config editor
[10:07] <foomonkey> If I want to download the source code to a GNOME app, say GEdit, can I use Synaptic to get it?
[10:07] <foomonkey> Or do I need to use apt-get?
[10:08] <foomonkey> Or do I do it some other way?
[10:08] <skirk> try   whois microsoft.com       :)
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !gedit
[10:08] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[10:08] <Glench> vim owns all^
[10:08] <eternalswd> lassegs, thanks for the help
[10:08] <backlit> leafpad rocks
[10:08] <lassegs> eternalswd, my pleasure
[10:08] <skirk> nano owns all :D
[10:08] <foomonkey> was that !gedit suppose to help me?
[10:09] <lassegs> foomonkey, yeah i was thinking the same thing
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> foomonkey: Wasnt sure, thought I would check
[10:09] <Homer> is a port scan suppose to take long?
[10:09] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, so you decided to flood the channel :D
[10:09] <foomonkey> OK... I know how to use Synaptic pretty well to get binaries... but source?
[10:09] <lassegs> Homer, yes
[10:10] <clearzen> Homer:  It depends on the option you selected and the system
[10:10] <lassegs> Homer, define long
[10:10] <Homer> like 10 mins
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Of course.. it is what I do.. :D
[10:10] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, of course you know about the !info > Jack_Sparrow , right?
[10:10] <clearzen> Homer: Are you using nmap?
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs
[10:11] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, just checking
[10:11] <Homer> no the built in ubuntu network tools thingamajig
[10:11] <foomonkey> If I' look at my repositories, I see "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Source)" selected. Does that mean actual source .debs?
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Sometimes it is as much for my own ifno
[10:11] <graeme> could someone suggest a way to install on the following setup: main hd is SATA with windows, then primary ide hd is 80gb formatted ntfs used for storing video and then 2ndary ide hd is empty 30gb upon which i would like to install ubuntu
[10:11] <yugge> lassegs: what controlls the usb in ubuntu, just libusb or is there something else too?
[10:11] <clearzen> Homer: I don't know about that one. I don't use it
[10:11] <clearzen> Homer: sorry
[10:11] <lassegs> yugge, hotplug?
[10:11] <graeme> doesn't look like ubuntu desktop install cd is finding windows install and thus grub is notworking
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: yes
[10:12] <caseyomah> Okay, I want to mount /dev/hdb1 /media/120gig -t vfat (what other options for full access to all?)
[10:12] <yugge> lassegs: hm, maybe I'll try reinstalling that
[10:12] <lassegs> graeme, you can easilly fix grub menu.lst manually
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: -o umask=000
[10:12] <lassegs> yugge, you go girl!
[10:12] <skirk> 
[10:12] <foomonkey> If I search for gedit in Synaptic, I found gedit-dev... would that be the soruce package?
[10:12] <yugge> lassegs: haha, I'm a man
[10:12] <yugge> ;p
[10:13] <graeme> i would appreciaite it if you'd teach me how
[10:13] <lassegs> yugge, its not important.
[10:13] <clearzen> caseyomah: I think this to be set to gid=000 as well
[10:13] <lassegs> yugge, just go
[10:13] <yugge> ;p
[10:13] <graeme> it appears as though grub has been installed on the 80gb storage drive
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: no, that's the development libraries in case you are building something that integrates gedit.
[10:13] <graeme> but it is not the boot frive for the sysytem
[10:13] !lilo:*! Hi all. Restarting services in just a moment.
[10:14] <NotClever> Hello all, I installed compiz on my laptop aswell as some gnome manager thingy.  I clicked on "GL Window" and now I have just a white screen when logging into gnome - eek!  Is there a way to uninstall compiz from a terminal ?
[10:14] <foomonkey> fyrestrt: so where's the source?
[10:14] <caseyomah> Rights are still read only besides owner...
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: on the web? What do you want with the source?
[10:14] <mooky_> does ubuntu 6.0.6 grub have the splash image patch applied ?
[10:14] <lassegs> graeme, please put my name in front of your posts so i dont overlook them
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> NotClever: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:14] <overridden> sudo apt-get remove compiz
[10:14] <clearzen>  caseyomah:sorry I didn't mean to address that to you
[10:14] <NotClever> ty fyrestrtr
[10:15] <foomonkey> I am wanting to get involved in working on some open source code. I thought gedit my be a lince little learning exercise.
[10:15] <clearzen>  caseyomah: if you want to port scan the built-in software is not the best in my opinion
[10:15] <graeme> lassegs, will do
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: you can download its source from the web, or check it out directly from their cvs.
[10:15] <skirk> anyone have quake 4 for Linux???
[10:15] <lassegs> graeme, ok. you probably want your grub to be on the hda1 disk
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> foomonkey:  Does this look like it would help ?  http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gedit.html
[10:16] <_4hodmt> Anyone know of a good system for managing removable media backups?
[10:16] <foomonkey> fyrestrtr: so getting source from apt or Synaptic isn't really how you would go about it?
[10:16] <skirk> anyone have quake 4 for Linux?
[10:16] <mooky_> skirk you have to buy it
[10:16] <_4hodmt> Ideally I want software to split files over multiple discs raid5 style so no dataloss on single media failure, plus index everything so I can retrieve files easily
[10:16] <skirk> no
[10:16] <skirk> i download it :/
[10:16] <foomonkey> Jack_Sparrow: I'll check it out... thanks
[10:16] <mooky_> I didn't think it was free ?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: no, I'd fetch it via anonymous cvs. Instructions are here > http://www.gnome.org/projects/gedit/developers.html
[10:16] <graeme> lassegs, would that be my SATA with windows?
[10:17] <mooky_> _4hodmt make a raid 5 array
[10:17] <ompaul> skirk, we don't talk about warez here, or for that matter other questionable activites, thanks
[10:17] <foomonkey> fyresrtr: thanks... that's the info I was looking for.
[10:17] <manstoke> i'm using universe & multiverse
[10:17] <Red-Sox> How do you save in nano?
[10:17] <lassegs> graeme, but i didnt quite understand, dosnt your grub recognize the windows partition or are you suspecting it is installing itself on the wrong partition?
[10:17] <clearzen> Red-Sox: press ctrl+x
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> Red-Sox: ctrl+o
[10:17] <ompaul> Red-Sox, bottom right hand corner of the menu Ctrl + X and then a Y
[10:17] <clearzen> Red-Sox:then y and enter
[10:17] <LoneWolf071> How can I tell what graphics driver i'm using, or need to, it's set in the config file to x11drv, but everytime I run cedega it says it can't find it
[10:17] <Red-Sox> Okay
[10:17] <mooky_> LoneWolf071 look at your xorg.conf file
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> he asked how to save, not how to exit :P
[10:18] <dejx> how's that sound on my laptop works only in gnome, if i want play some.mp3
[10:18] <dejx> //dev/dsp busy
[10:18] <mar_cus> hello guys I need some help with apt. someone got a moment?
[10:18] <Red-Sox> BRB restarting X
[10:18] <lassegs> clearzen is a sneaky devil
[10:18] <mooky_> mar whas the problem
[10:18] <overridden> sure mar_cus
[10:18] <_4hodmt> mooky_: How would I set it up? The idea is to have stacks of hundreds of DVDRs usable but not risking data loss
[10:18] <Red-Sox> wait a second
[10:18] <clearzen> lol
[10:18] <Red-Sox> how come ctrl alt backsbace isnt' working?
[10:18] <mooky_> _4hodmt mdadm or raidtools
[10:19] <_4hodmt> mooky_: I'll research those, thanks
[10:19] <dejx> and some days ago sound worked just fine
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Red-Sox: are you running xgl?
[10:19] <dejx> any suggestions?
[10:19] <mooky_> welcome
[10:19] <Red-Sox> I'm in the failsafe terminal fyrestrtr
[10:19] <mar_cus> the thing is, I've been trying to get xgl+compiz to work, but I can't load compiz because I got an old ligl1-mesa package
[10:19] <leo^> how can i update my dapper to edgy eft knot2, do i need to download the .iso and install from it. or can i use synaptic? maybe a dumb question but i really dont know
[10:19] <lassegs> then you have to open X to reboot X
[10:19] <graeme> lassegs, the installer is not finding the windows install, i suspect because it is SATA, so its installing grub on the wrong drive
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Red-Sox: then ctrl+alt+backspace isn't working because it only works from within X. You probably want /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:19] <mooky_> leo^ apt-get update
[10:19] <mooky_> leo^ apt-get upgrade
[10:20] <mar_cus> I've added the right sources but ut seemes like it doesn't find the packages newer version
[10:20] <Red-Sox> tyvm fyrestrtr
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> mar_cus: xgl questions belong in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:20] <mar_cus> let me show you:
[10:20] <skirk> ompaul , see this link and join :)    http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=986
[10:20] <mar_cus> ## Added for XGL and Compiz
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ dapper main
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[10:20] <mooky_> skirk do you want to chat about ubuntu at all ?
[10:20] <mooky_> mar_cus he just said - not in here
[10:20] <mar_cus> these are the sources  added
[10:20] <caseyomah> I keep getting a rights structure of drwxr-xr-x
[10:20] <mooky_> he told you where to look for help
[10:20] <leo^> mooky_: it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> mar_cus: xgl question are asked in #ubuntu-xgl -- also, don't paste in here.
[10:21] <ompaul> mar_cus, please don't paste
[10:21] <Flannel> mar_cus: #ubuntu-xgl for xgl support please
[10:21] <mooky_> leo^ is dpkg setup correctly
[10:21] <lassegs> graeme, i was talking bull when i told you that you wanted your grub on the hda1 partition. thats not true at all, as long as your grub recognizes the /boot/ folder(partiotion if you have made it as a partition) it is all ok
[10:21] <skirk> yes mooky_ ...
[10:21] <dejx> hm
[10:21] <mar_cus> this isn't really and xgl problem
[10:21] <dejx> asfasfadsfa am i ignored on this channel?
[10:21] <lassegs> graeme, because then we can manually add windows to the menu.lst later
[10:21] <deedubb> dejx: nope
[10:21] <mooky_> skirk then stop going on about random topics, this channel is buys enough
[10:21] <mooky_> dejx no
[10:21] <dejx> ok
[10:21] <mooky_> but you are getting annoying by not waiting for a response
[10:22] <dejx> cuz i tho... my client is messed..
[10:22] <mar_cus> sry, I have to paste again: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:22] <mar_cus>   compiz-vanilla: Depends: libgl1-mesa (>= 6.5.1-0ubuntu5) but 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[10:22] <mar_cus> E: Broken packages
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> mooky_: you need to run sudo apt-get update -- then go to #ubuntu-xgl and ask your question from there.
[10:22] <mooky_> can someone kick mar_cus
[10:22] <skirk> ok mooky_
[10:22] <mooky_> he's not listening
[10:22] <skirk> sorry
[10:22] <mar_cus> I'll go
[10:22] <mooky_> frying_fish what ?
[10:22] <mar_cus> sry
[10:22] <mooky_> I don't want to use xgl
[10:22] <lassegs> mar_cus, use the god damn pastebin
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> mooky_: sorry, nick complete got you :)
[10:22] <mooky_> ahh no problem
[10:22] <lassegs> !pastebin > mar_cus
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > mar_cus
[10:23] <lassegs> !pastebin > lassegs
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot > lassegs
[10:23] <mooky_> just kick him - he knew he wasn't supposed to keep posting and just carried on "sorry I decided to post again"
[10:23] <mooky_> this channel is busy enough without idiots
[10:23] <graeme> lassegs, grub isn't loading at all when i boot, i only found it not working (error 17) when i switched my boot drive in bios to my primary ata, not my SATA drive
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> mooky_: relax.
[10:23] <graeme> lassegs, it could be that my SATA is run trhough a raid controller on my mobo
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> graeme: you need to install grub on the mbr on the boot disk (which, in your case, is the sata drive)
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> graeme: are you mixing ide and sata drives?
[10:24] <varsendaggr> hey does anyone know a way to convert a nrg   ( nero image )   to .iso
[10:24] <caseyomah> I can't get my (empty) vfat partition (/dev/dhb1) to mount to mount point (/media/120gig) in all user R/W mode. it keeps setting it to owner R/W and user R.
[10:24] <mooky_> varsendaggr I think nero is propritary only
[10:24] <varsendaggr> danm
[10:25] <mooky_> I /think/
[10:25] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, There's a package for it.
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> varsendaggr: have you tried mounting it?
[10:25] <deedubb> Java question: I've installed automatrix, installed the JDK, and have javac (not in the PATH variable); I then tried to run update-alternatives --config javac, and its not finding it; does javac need to be in the path or should I tell update-alternatives where javac is somehow
[10:25] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, I saw it earlier.
[10:25] <mooky_> caseyomah that would be handy to know about
[10:25] <mooky_> I'm interested
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> deedubb: automaix questions are in #automatix
[10:25] <graeme> not sure what you mean by mixing Sparrow, my boot disk is windows NTFS and SATA, i ahve two other disks on my ide channels, one for windows storage and the other upon which i would like to install ubuntu
[10:25] <Qwell> So, who decided that ubuquity was too good for 640x480 res? ;)
[10:26] <deedubb> fyrestrtr: automatrix is empty
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> deedubb: automatix, not automatrix
[10:26] <Homer> what is the commandline to shutdown linux
[10:26] <Qwell> this really sucks..  I can't get X to start at anything but 640x480@60hz
[10:26] <gepatino> hi... is there any clean/recommended way to install gtk 2.10 in dapper?
[10:26] <Rafa_brz> hi folks!
[10:26] <Homer> echo -n "shutdown" > /sys/power/state <-- doesn't work
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> Homer: sudo shutdown -h now
[10:26] <Homer> k
[10:26] <backlit> Qwell: try Driver "vesa" to get going again
[10:27] <mooky> gepatino apt ?
[10:27] <Qwell> backlit: where?
[10:27] <dejx> blaaaah..
[10:27] <Rafa_brz> I bought a new printer... and I gave a headache!
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> Rafa_brz: you gave the printer a headache? :)
[10:27] <inam> !mp3
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <Qwell> backlit: This is the install CD..
[10:27] <gepatino> mooky: shure, but what repository should i use?
[10:27] <backlit> Qwell: in xorg.conf, under the Device subsection
[10:27] <lassegs> graeme, I really know nothing of disks and hardware, so i wouldnt know anything about that
[10:27] <lassegs> graeme, but ill help you troubleshoot your problem
[10:27] <lassegs> graeme, is grub loading and then stops at error 17 ?
[10:27] <Rafa_brz> fyrestrtr: :(
[10:27] <mooky> gepatino the correct one for your version
[10:27] <backlit> Qwell: d'oh that kinda sucks, what video card do you have?
[10:27] <Phoul> !ntfs-3g
[10:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[10:28] <Qwell> backlit: should be an i830, I believe
[10:28] <canute> Hi guys, what is the fstab version of "sudo lufsmount ftpfs://user:pass@host.net/slackware /mnt/slackware --dmask=777 --fmask=777"
[10:28] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, package named nrg2iso
[10:28] <graeme> lassegs, grub isn't loading unless i change boot drives in bios, and then gives me error 17
[10:28] <Rafa_brz> I bought a printer called Samsung ml-1610
[10:28] <Rafa_brz> but it doesn't work with ubuntu...
[10:28] <gepatino> mooky: in dapper repositories i've only found gtk version 2.8.x. Is there any other repository to add?
[10:28] <backlit> Qwell: just a hunch, try changing the driver to "i810", and then try "sudo /etc/init.d/restart gdm" at the command line and see if that helps
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> canute: you don't want to put that in fstab.
[10:28] <mooky> is there a problem with 2.8 /
[10:28] <Qwell> backlit: it detects the driver as i810
[10:28] <leo^> where can i find the egdy eft repositories ?
[10:29] <canute> hm, how can I make it automaticly be mounted then?
[10:29] <varsendaggr> caseyomah, wow    thanks
[10:29] <backlit> Qwell: may leave you off worse than before, but worst case you will have to reboot
[10:29] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, No problem.
[10:29] <Qwell> It's a 82845G/GL
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> canute: well, let me rephrase -- you can put it, but don't make it so it automatically mounts.
[10:29] <lassegs> graeme, that sounds about right. Ok. Do you have accsess to a linux live cd?
[10:29] <backlit> Qwell: then try "vesa" instead and see if restarting gdm helps
[10:29] <gepatino> mooky: i need support for touchscreen mode in a special app, and it's solved in gtk 2.10, but not in 2.8
[10:29] <canute> fyrestrtr: I see
[10:29] <jwl007> is there a wireless expert around? :D
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> canute: the reason you can't do that, is because for that to work, your network card must be enabled *before* fstab is read, and that's not going to happen :)
[10:29] <graeme> yup
[10:29] <mooky> look at dev branches
[10:30] <leo^> where can i find the egdy eft repositories ?
[10:30] <canute> fyrestrtr: aha, of course... So do you suggest anyway I can do it?
[10:30] <Rafa_brz> Is there anyone here that have a Samsung printer?
[10:30] <graeme> lassegs, i do, this is how I've been trying to install it
[10:30] <Qwell> backlit: restarting gdm failed :p
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> leo^: #ubuntu+1 has the answer to your edgy questions.
[10:30] <eod_punk> experts maybe but ask anyways
[10:30] <Qwell> it "stopped", but X is still running
[10:30] <lassegs> graeme, then you should boot with it, then fix the mbr from there.
[10:30] <gepatino> mooky: should I get the souce packages and compile or is there any backports repository?
[10:30] <mooky> look at development branches
[10:30] <lassegs> graeme, do you know how to use grub from the commandline?
[10:30] <backlit> Qwell: make sure you have commented out any i810-specific options in the device section
[10:30] <mooky> rather than backports
[10:30] <jwl007> i can't install my (supposedly) prism2 based pcmcia wireless card...  tried ndiswrapper, orinoco, and linux-wlan-ng
[10:31] <Qwell> ctrl-alt-backspace did the trick
[10:31] <graeme> lassegs, nope! but how hard can it be?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> canute: well, you can add it in there, with the option of not auto-mounting it, then its just as simply as typing mount /mnt/slackware and it read fstab and mount the device with your parameters. You can add that command to a script that you launch after all services have started.
[10:31] <Qwell> So, why do new versions of X hate this card?
[10:31] <Qwell> rather, when using i810
[10:31] <mooky> Qwell which card was it sorry
[10:31] <caseyomah> Okay this should be simple, but I'm banging my head into a wall, what is the command to install a vfat partition (%d) into a mount point (%m) with all users having write-enabled access?
[10:31] <Qwell> 82845G/GL
[10:31] <inam> !mp3 > inam
[10:32] <eod_punk> I had to try several different drivers to get mine working with ndiswrapper.  the one that worked in wondows wouldn't work so look around and find defferent ones and give them a try
[10:32] <backlit> Qwell: i dunno, but my HTPC uses an i915, so hopefully i'll have some useful tips when i start converting it to Ubuntu
[10:32] <lassegs> graeme, it really isnt that hard, the only thing you have to remember is that grub doesnt speak quite the same language as linux. hda1 in linux, is hd0,0 in grub
[10:32] <jwl007> eod_punk, where is there a good place to look for diff drivers?
[10:32] <backlit> i went through a parhelia and a crappy off-brand gf6200 before i finally settled on my trusty old geforce2
[10:32] <gepatino> mooky: with dev branches you mean edgy? in that case, should i add a line in sources.list a line to edgy-main or something like that?
[10:32] <canute> fyrestrtr: I see. How would the fstab line then look like?
[10:33] <lassegs> graeme, just boot the livecd and type 'sudo grub' to get you started
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: sudo mount -t vfat %d -o users,rw,umask=000 %m
[10:33] <mooky> gepatino yeah
[10:33] <stefg> lassegs: once you have a grub prompt it's 'find /boot/grub/stage1', then 'root (hdX)' (i.e. where grub found its stage1), finally 'setup (hdX)
[10:33] <caseyomah> Thank you.
[10:33] <eod_punk> i'm on a laptop so i looked at different laptop linux tuttorials.  try searching for the wireless chipset
[10:33] <lassegs> graeme, then use man grub
[10:33] <graeme> lassegs, right, thats a bit silly.  do you have any handy resourcesthat will go through this more detail?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> canute: like any other :) /device /mount/point filesystem options (but you would add noauto to the options)
[10:34] <gepatino> mooky: but it's not necesary to update the entire system, isn't it? i only need gtk 2.10, not an edgy sys
[10:34] <lassegs> graeme, or listen to stefg... he sounds competent
[10:34] <mooky> depends on dependencies
[10:34] <stefg> :-)... hope that I am in fact :-)
[10:35] <lassegs> graeme, stefg just said what you should do. he sounds smart, listen to him
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> gepatino: in the worst case scenario, you can compile it by hand, but really -- you should avoid this if at all possible :)
[10:35] <jwl007> eod_punk, where do i find the wireless chipset besides google?  I've seen a few conflicting ideas for what chipset my pcmcia card uses
[10:35] <eod_punk> jjwl like i said i couldn't use the one that worked in windows but I believe I found one that did work by look at different drivers for the same chipset
[10:35] <A[D] minS> !xgl
[10:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:35] <eod_punk> I googled for mine
[10:35] <prophet> hey fellas, i try to mout a dvd with some AVI files and this is what i get'mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:35] <prophet> "
[10:35] <graeme> lassegs or stefg, if i then get grub on my sata boot hd, which has windows isntalled. will it muck it up?
[10:35] <tuxedup> I intend to buy a acer laptop, however the laptop I am interested in uses function keys to control the sound volume.  Will this cause any particular heartache on my part in getting them to work?
[10:35] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, I'm still getting r-x access for group oother all and rwx for user
[10:36] <mooky> prophet and ?
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> prophet: ntfs should be read only
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> prophet: that's normal, you can't write to dvds (unless they are blank and you have a dvd writer)
[10:36] <eod_punk> try googleing for your system and linux  might find a tutorial for your system, like i found for mine but for a different distro
[10:36] <mooky> its a dvd - of course its going to be read only
[10:36] <prophet> im not trying to write im trying to view the content of a dvd with AVI files on it
[10:36] <eod_punk> tuxedup, mine work just fine
[10:36] <mooky> yes
[10:36] <lassegs> graeme, no no, dont try to install grub to the SATA NTFS drive, fix the MBR on that disk, stefg told you how to do it
[10:36] <mooky> and ?
[10:36] <mooky> it looks like your dvd has mounted fine
[10:37] <graeme> lassegs gotcha
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I feel dumb today
[10:37] <tuxedup> eod_punk: does it work out of the box? what key combination do you have to use to raise and lower the volume?
[10:37] <mooky> Jack_Sparrow nonsensw
[10:37] <prophet> how do i find the files on it
[10:37] <mooky> prophet cd into the directory ?
[10:37] <stefg> Grub only works in _M_ BR (Master means first harddisk seen by the bios)
[10:37] <caseyomah> prophet, That is an informative message, letting you know you can't write to it, the mount succeded properly.
[10:37] <eod_punk> tuxedup, same as in windows fn+f5 for up
[10:37] <Qwell> ubuntu doesn't force installation of grub, does it?
[10:37] <lassegs> graeme, the MBR is the file on your first disk that tells your computer where to find the boot loader (grub in your case). You have to fix it
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> mooky: I agree...
[10:37] <prophet> ok
[10:37] <Qwell> because that would be a real shame
[10:37] <mooky> Jack_Sparrow my typing is terrible, I was tyring to say "nonsense"
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: its vfat?
[10:38] <mooky> as in your being dumb
[10:38] <mooky> today
[10:38] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Yes.
[10:38] <prophet> how the i access the cd now
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
[10:38] <mooky> prophet look in the wiki
[10:38] <mooky> this is basic linux usability
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> mooky: Up all night with 14 week old puppy... sorry all
[10:38] <nownot> ok i asked in ubuntu-xgl and xgl and no one seems to know what is happening, heres what is going on, ok this is the situation im in,  have xgl workign just not w/ dual monitors, i have dual monitors working jsut not w/ xgl, when i try to boot xgl w/ the current xorg.conf file i get 10 sec timout and no screen found
[10:38] <eod_punk> tuxedup, didn't have a single problems with them, they just worked as they should
[10:38] <mooky> there are basic linux tutorials
[10:38] <eod_punk> lots of them mooky
[10:38] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Freshly formatted vfat (fat32) via Patitioning tool.
[10:38] <mooky> eod_punk I know
[10:39] <eod_punk> you cna even get linux for dummies at your libray
[10:39] <mooky> hence why I'm recommending prophet take a look at them
[10:39] <lassegs> stefg, but im a bit concerned because he managed to load grub but got the error 17 (dont understand filessystem).  I didnt understand that
[10:39] <tuxedup> eod_punk: assuming they did not work, I could use alsa mixer to raise and lower the sound correct?
[10:39] <eod_punk> i was getting error 22 on grub whenever i have a usb thumbdrive or hard drive hooked up to it
[10:40] <lassegs> eod_punk, it isnt quite the case here :P
[10:40] <stefg> lassegs, graeme let me look up what error 17 is about...
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: -o umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=000,rw
[10:40] <graeme> lassegs and all, thanks for the help
[10:40] <eod_punk> tuxedup, no idea,  i wouldn't think you would have a problem wiht it.  try looking around and see if you can find someone using the name brand laptop and see if they had problems
[10:40] <lassegs> graeme, wait
[10:40] <eod_punk> lassegs, ok
[10:40] <graeme> , oop, saw that
[10:41] <dermoth> Hi there, quick question: I need to recompile the kernel that wi ll match my hardware. Is it save to bypass the initrs scripts and boot directly init (No initrd al all)? Is there anything critical set-up during the initrd stage?)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> nownot: first, xgl is beta software -- so don't expect it to work perfectly.  Second, have you already checked compiz.net forums?
[10:41] <eod_punk> tuxedup, there are a couple wikki's about laptops and if they work in linux and what in them doesn't work out of the box
[10:41] <lassegs> graeme, tell stefg what happened when you changed the boot priority or whatever....
[10:41] <stefg> lassegs, graeme grub obviously points to the wrong partition.
[10:41] <dermoth> is it saFe...
[10:41] <mooky> dermoth if you have to ask that
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> dermoth: match your hardware how?
[10:41] <mooky> you shouldn't be doing it
[10:41] <lassegs> stefg, then he has two errors...
[10:41] <nownot> fyrestrtr: no i havent, will check now
[10:42] <canute> fyrestrtr:  does this look correct; none /mnt/slackware lufs fs=ftpfs,fmask=777,dmask=777,noauto,rw,user,exec,nosuid,host=host.net,username=user,password=pass 0 0
[10:42] <lassegs> !pastebin > canute
[10:42] <dermoth> I used to do it on others distro but ubuntu seems to have a fairly complex boot stage
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> canute: no, you need to put something in none
[10:42] <eod_punk> tuxtux, i used this one because its an older version of mine http://www.linuxsolutions.co.nz/sager9860wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[10:42] <mooky> why do you want to boot different ?
[10:42] <graeme> well, i like a good challenge
[10:42] <mooky> whats wrong with allowing init to run /
[10:42] <tuxedup> eod_punk: yeh I have looked at the linux-laptops.net site but the laptops I am after are not listed, Iam assuming though that there are some with a similar model number that the story should be the same and given acer latops seem to be quite compatable with linux from what I have read
[10:43] <canute> fyrestrtr: such as? I have no idea what the device is, the network card?
[10:43] <dermoth> mooky: were yo answering to me>?
[10:43] <stefg> i could help more if i'd have a 'sudo fdisk -l' output and the /boot/grub/menu.lst of the drive in question on pastebin
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> what is your mount line?
[10:43] <gepatino> mooky, fyrestrtr: i'll see what can i do with gtk 2.10
[10:43] <hypl> hello
[10:43] <mooky> dermoth yes
[10:43] <gepatino> mooky, fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:43] <eod_punk> look at notebookforums.com they have a deccent linux/laptop discusion area
[10:43] <hypl> whats a good app for playing dvd's on ubuntu
[10:43] <canute> sudo lufsmount ftpfs://user:pass@host.net/slackware /mnt/slackware --dmask=777 --fmask=777
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> hypl: totem, vlc, mplayer.
[10:43] <mooky> xine ?
[10:43] <hypl> thanks
[10:43] <mooky> I still like xine
[10:44] <lassegs> im sorry graeme, i have a problem understanding the extent of your problems. can you describe it once more so we can get you all fixed up? :)
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> canute: hrmm, hold on a sec.
[10:44] <graeme> stefg, i could get that, might take me a few minutes, need to boot live cd etc
[10:44] <Cooler> Hi all, I browsed the ubuntu website, i found what is server & desktop release but i'm unable to find out what is the "alternate" version you can download from mirror sites ?
[10:44] <stefg> graeme: fine for me, just ping me when you're ready
[10:44] <mooky> the alternate is a text install
[10:44] <mooky> without a gui
[10:44] <Cooler> thx mooky :)
[10:45] <mooky> ;)
[10:45] <graeme> lassegs, thanks, i'll try this grom stefg and will be back to let you know how it goes.
[10:45] <dermoth> mooky:  Well it's much less trouble to just build a kernel, no initrd. So I was wondering is there's anything critical set-up during the initrd stage or I can go directly to init.
[10:45] <j00bar> howdy -- i have an hfsplus partition mounted with -o rw, and /etc/mtab confirms that it's mounted r/w -- however when i try to write to it, i'm told the filesystem is readonly -- am i insane to think that linux has hfsplus write-suppotr?
[10:45] <mooky> depends if you want to preload anything
[10:45] <dermoth> no
[10:45] <dermoth> nothing
[10:45] <mooky> eggzeck: disk driver for raid setup,
[10:45] <dermoth> just plain install
[10:45] <lassegs> graeme, ok, but i think you might only be fixing one of two problems...
[10:45] <mooky> the bootsplash uses initrd
[10:45] <mooky> do you want the bootsplash ?
[10:46] <dermoth> I don't cate splasl or no :)
[10:46] <mooky> so drop initrd
[10:46] <eod_punk> tuxedup, all my fn+buttons work with no problems
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> canute: hrmm, looks like you need to use automount for lufs
[10:46] <mooky> just keep in mind if anything needs pre-loading
[10:46] <dermoth> ok
[10:46] <tahorg> hi, I've configured a cupsys with a shared printer on my laptop
[10:46] <mooky> you're screwed if it does
[10:46] <tahorg> I can print with lp
[10:46] <mooky> ;)
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> canute: amazing, what you can find in the manual :)
[10:46] <dermoth> thx mooky
[10:46] <canute> hehe
[10:46] <tahorg> but openoffice just barks at me "no default printer found"
[10:47] <miketech> Hey
[10:47] <tahorg> while in the cups interface it's defined "default printer"
[10:47] <tahorg> (dapper)
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: your user might not have write permissions.
[10:47] <miketech> can anybody tell me the difference between vim-gtk and vim-gnome?
[10:47] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, I'm still getting a permission block of drwxr-xr-x.
[10:47] <tahorg> any know problem ?
[10:47] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: this is using sudo
[10:47] <tahorg> +n
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: no clue on yours to be honest. Might a vfat specific thing.
[10:47] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: so it shouldn't matter my permissions
[10:47] <Cooler> last question unsure from what i found at google/ubuntu, do you know if 6.6 (server) install support NTFS resizing of an existing windows partition before installing ?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: mount shows it as rw?
[10:48] <mooky> Cooler don't think so
[10:48] <tahorg> openoffice just sucks bears with a straw.
[10:48] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Do you have any better way to mount a M$/linux accessable (writable) partition?
[10:48] <GianLuigiBuffon> hi guys
[10:48] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: yes -- mounted with option (rw)
[10:48] <Teka> Could somenoe send me to a site/link containing screenshots of Ubuntu in use? I really want to see what its like befor i try it
[10:48] <mooky> Teka main site
[10:48] <mooky> ubuntu.com
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: what is the owner/group of the files?
[10:48] <GianLuigiBuffon> How is possible that a pendrive that works in windows ubuntu of one pc. doesn't do it in this one???
[10:48] <Teka> Ive looked there
[10:48] <Teka> Found no screenshots
[10:48] <Cooler> k thx for your answer i'm off resizing (partion magic) & installing :)
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> !screenshots
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenshots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Teka> !screenshots
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenshots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <hypl> when i try to play this dvd on totem it says i dont have the correct plugins
[10:49] <mooky> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop?action=show&redirect=Screenshots
[10:49] <mooky> lazy
[10:49] <hypl> idk what to do
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> Teka: here is what mine looks like http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png
[10:49] <eod_punk> GianLuigiBuffon, what?
[10:49] <hypl> where to get em
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> !dvd > hypl
[10:49] <hypl> thankyou
[10:49] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk I connect a 2gb pen drive and is not working... (but I connect it in other pc with ubuntu too and does)
[10:49] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: i'm trying to mount and hfsplus partition as my home tree -- i've mounted it at /home rw -- and i'm trying to make my user's directory -- so i'm running "sudo mkdir j00bar" and it returns "mkdir: cannot create directory 'j00bar': read only filesystem"
[10:49] <mooky> fyrestrtr nice icons
[10:49] <eod_punk> mine work wiht no problem
[10:50] <mooky> j00bar you mounted it read only
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: errm, I suggest you mount it somewhere else.
[10:50] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk can maybe be by usb 1.0, coz this computer is more old
[10:50] <j00bar> mooky: mount and /etc/mtab both say rw
[10:50] <stefg> Teka: screenies mean nothing... because the UI and the working system aren't monolithic in Linux... get a Live CD of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and/or Xubuntu and start playing, that's what they are meant for
[10:50] <j00bar> mooky: and i explicitly -o rw'ed the mount
[10:50] <eod_punk> usb 2 should just drop down to 1.1 speeds
[10:50] <mooky> fyrestrtr that doesn't look like gnome
[10:50] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: why do you suggest i mount it elsewhere?
[10:50] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Might my mtab be overriding my command line?
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> mooky: but it is :)
[10:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> it does... but maybe not on linux
[10:51] <mooky> fyrestrtr ooh I believe you
[10:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> coz I'm my other pc with linux it works
[10:51] <eod_punk> maybe but i doubt it
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: no, nothing like that.
[10:51] <eod_punk> GianLuigiBuffon, do you have any other thumb drives to try?
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> mooky: this is my ubuntu laptop > http://www.meidomus.com/images/laptop.png
[10:52] <pablo89> hi!!! there's somebody here???
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk yeah, gonna try other pendrive
[10:52] <eod_punk> k
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> it works
[10:52] <mooky> pablo89 no - all the chats bots
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> :O
[10:52] <mooky> what do you think ?
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> and the other started to work now
[10:52] <pablo89> haha, yeah
[10:52] <mooky> fyrestrtr I like your themes
[10:52] <eod_punk> interesting fyrestrtr
[10:53] <mooky> whats the playstation icon ?
[10:53] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, I was mounting into /media that has a rights structure of drwxr-xr-x and the mount point couldn't be less restrictive.
[10:53] <GianLuigiBuffon> lol really curious
[10:53] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Short: Problem solved.
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> oh lol
[10:53] <eod_punk> GianLuigiBuffon, what?
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> mooky: that's my desktop :)
[10:53] <eod_punk> the other one works?
[10:53] <pablo89> can somebody tell me what means "lol"???
[10:54] <eod_punk> laugh out loud
[10:54] <mooky> fyrestrtr ahhh the name of the box is playstation
[10:54] <powder> hahahaha
[10:54] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk I connected other USB Key and started to work, and then the first one did too lol
[10:54] <pablo89> thanks
[10:54] <mooky> jesus - this channel is border line spam
[10:54] <eod_punk> that is odd
[10:54] <mooky> its flushing out the real good conversation
[10:54] <GianLuigiBuffon> what means odd
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> mooky: desktop is playstation, laptop is mini-me. The icon you see is the icon for a remote scp folder on playstation.
[10:54] <mooky> got you
[10:55] <Qwell> ...it installed grub without asking
[10:55] <Qwell> that's rediculous
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Qwell,  like 90% of all disrtos do eh?
[10:56] <Qwell> without asking?  no
[10:56] <eod_punk> whtas the problem with that?
[10:56] <cry0gen> Qwell: yeah..
[10:56] <cry0gen> Qwell: a ton do it now
[10:56] <Qwell> one should ALWAYS ask to install a bootloader
[10:56] <cry0gen> without even a hint of it even being installed.
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> alternative install cd - is documented as to be the one to use for  grub/other twiddling.
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> I believe it does ask even in the desktop cd.
[10:56] <prophet> i cant figure this out
[10:56] <Qwell> Dr_Willis: Does it say that on ubuntu.org/desktop/?
[10:56] <mooky> fyrestrtr is that you in the images on your machine ?
[10:56] <deedubb> I agree, bootloader should be an asking thing
[10:57] <cry0gen> fyrestrtr: it does in the begining
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> Qwell,  i read it somewhere on the ubuntu pages.
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> mooky: eh? what images?
[10:57] <GianLuigiBuffon> Well guys... now I have both computer with Linux... Windows is no more in my home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:57] <cry0gen> it says before you click "next"
[10:57] <tahorg> deedubb: well it is
[10:57] <Qwell> somewhere that somebody who is trying to download it will see it?
[10:57] <cry0gen> to install
[10:57] <eod_punk> is it possible to edit grub outside of linux?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> Personally I think the live cd should have a 'text' install option.
[10:57] <GianLuigiBuffon> I been since march with just one pc with linux
[10:57] <mooky> http://www.meidomus.com/images/
[10:57] <cry0gen> it says "install grub bootloader"
[10:57] <cry0gen> juts people like Qwell keep clicking next
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> eod_punk,  you can use the grub console, or some other way to edit the menu.lst
[10:57] <Hexidigital__> in theory, after a clean install, i should be able to aptitude install kubuntu-desktop && aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop for pure KDE, correct?
[10:57] <cry0gen> fill out the information
[10:57] <cry0gen> click next some more
[10:57] <cry0gen> and never bother to read ;)
[10:57] <Qwell> cry0gen: There was no option
[10:57] <eod_punk> Dr_Willis, during boot?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  no.. removeing ubuntu-desktop will not remove much of anything.
[10:58] <deedubb> tahorg: I installed ubuntu desktop just yesturday, I don't recall being asked about my bootloader; but I installed to a seperate drive so I don't really mind, but some people do and should
[10:58] <cry0gen> yeah, it says it will install grub in the installer
[10:58] <cry0gen> :P
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> mooky: no, those pictures aren't of me, but some friends and some posessions.
[10:58] <admin_> can someone give me a list of xubuntu compatible wireless cards?
[10:58] <cry0gen> Did you readit anymore at all?
[10:58] <mooky> ahh
[10:58] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: besides Kubuntu LTS disc, any ideas what i'd have to remove?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> mooky: oh wait, car-smile -- that's me (forgot about that one)
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  thers no 'easy' way to remove all of the gnome-desktop packages - that i know of.
[10:58] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks
[10:58] <tahorg> deedubb: if you hit esc during grub boot, you can choose
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  pesonally i never remove anything. :P
[10:59] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: :)
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  but ive seen a lot of others ask similer question and have similer missunderstandings
[10:59] <enderhegemon> Hi. Has anyone been able to connect to a public iDisk folder with 6.06?
[10:59] <admin_> can someone give me a list of xubuntu compatible wireless cards?
[10:59] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm running the live cd on a machine with windows xp because I can't log into xp due to the windows geniune advantage crap. I want to copy some files from the ntfs partition that I need so that I can reformat the damn comp but I can't get access to the ntfs partition via the ubuntu live cd. The drive is supposidly mounted and it says it's status is accessible in System->Administration->Disks but I'm unable to bro
[10:59] <RamiKassab> wse the mount or anything due to permissions... any ideas? Thanks guys!
[10:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> see ya guyz!
[10:59] <tahorg> deedubb: if you mean "don't install grub on installing ubuntu"
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> admin_: find a list of *linux* compatible wireless cards.
[10:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> ty for help
[10:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> g2g now
[10:59] <tahorg> deedubb: how will you boot it ?
[10:59] <Qwell> meh, it boots at least :p
[10:59] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: well, i saw a walkthrough after a google search, which i could paste the command... it seemed to work on my laptop... i was just curious if there was an "easier" way
[11:00] <Qwell> in 1024x768 no less
[11:00] <GianLuigiBuffon> Hawking pcmecia wifi card  works without install
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: open a terminal, type sudo -i and hit enter
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  the apt-get sstem is good for installing stuff.. not quite as good as removing stuff. :P it tends to be to safe i guess.. or just dosent keep track/tags of what every package needs for its dependencies
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: then, type mount -- find out where its mounted, go there, and do what you need to do.
[11:00] <eod_punk> my onboard clevo laptop wireless card didn't work out of the box
[11:00] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks :)
[11:00] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ok I'll give it a wirl, thanks!
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: WGA stops your pc from being used?
[11:01] <metellius>  My sister is having problem with getting her wired internet working. I've tried to instruct her to do an ifup eth0, but it responds                  unknown interface. Is it so that it needs an entry in /etc/network/interfaces to work? and will that conflict with the gnome                         networkmanager applet?
[11:01] <pablo89> can samobody tell me what fuck is "wirl"????
[11:01] <varsendaggr> pablo89, language
[11:01] <pablo89> sorry, "Somebody"
[11:02] <pablo89> thanks
[11:02] <MKR> !language
[11:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> !wirl
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wirl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <eod_punk> later all
[11:02] <fmasi> how do i create a ReiserFS4 fs in ubuntu ?
[11:03] <pablo89> who heat to Microsoft????
[11:03] <stefg> fmasi: Don't
[11:03] <pablo89> haha
[11:03] <Abst> Is there any program in Ubuntu that can randomly rotate my desktop wallpapers?
[11:03] <varsendaggr> pablo89, what is this in referance to?
[11:03] <MKR> Cron and a perl script
[11:03] <mooky> pablo89 are you just spamming
[11:03] <D_dog> Okies give this one a shot..new box asus p5 mobo intel core 2 duo two sata hd's cdrom is on ide..ubuntu boots from the cdrom then when its time to install it says that it cant find the cdrom..this has happened on suse 10.1 and knoppix 5 also any ideas how to get ubuntu installed on my box
[11:03] <LookTJ> anyone walk me through installing jdk?
[11:03] <pablo89> no, dont think that
[11:03] <LookTJ> i forgot commands
[11:03] <Typhon> D_dog: netinstall
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> !java
[11:04] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:04] <enderhegemon> Does anyone use cadaver to log into iDisk?
[11:04] <pablo89> who heat to Windows???
[11:04] <pablo89> me
[11:04] <pablo89> me
[11:04] <pablo89> me
[11:04] <mooky> pablo89 please be quiet
[11:04] <LookTJ> Dr_willis: i said jdk not jre
[11:04] <D_dog> So metinstall with a minimal CD ??
[11:04] <Hexidigital__> pablo89: knock it off
[11:04] <Abst> pablo89: This is for Ubuntu tech support not for useless spamming and idiotic script kiddie talk.
[11:04] <LookTJ> pable ill go get op
[11:04] <pablo89> ok
[11:04] <LnxSlck> can someone help me ? i have a locale problem
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> LookTJ,  read the url - i do belive they mention the jdk as well
[11:04] <pablo89> i understood
[11:05] <varsendaggr> what is wirl pablo89 ?
[11:05] <Abst> We don't care if you ca nh4x0r the windows l0s3rs
[11:05] <LnxSlck> perl: warning: Setting locale failed
[11:05] <silox> What would keep the essid from staying set when using iwconfig and ndiswrapper?
[11:05] <pablo89> wirl is language
[11:05] <LookTJ> jdk is from sun
[11:05] <fmasi> is ther any whay i can have raiserfs4 under ubuntu ?
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> !locales > LnxSlck
[11:05] <Typhon> D_dog: i think some CDs can get to netinstall before losing the CD drive...not sure which
[11:05] <kaot> silox: how do you mean?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> LookTJ,  or are ya reafering to the SDK?
[11:06] <brian98> Hi All, I've made the move to ubuntu on my desktop
[11:06] <LookTJ> oh i meant the commands for installing jdk update 8
[11:06] <pablo89> do u understood varsendaggr???
[11:06] <brian98> got through everything
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> or does sun have more things that confised everyone. :P
[11:06] <brian98> and am really impressed :)
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> lol
[11:06] <brian98> now
[11:06] <Hexidigital__> pablo89: stop it now
[11:06] <silox> when I do iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever"
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> SUN is good at messing people up.
[11:06] <cry0gen> Dr_Willis: they have tons of stuff
[11:06] <brian98> I was thinking about my laptop
[11:06] <silox> it won't stay set in when i go back and type iwconfig wlan0
[11:06] <kaot> silox: usually that means you aren't actually communication with the AP
[11:06] <brian98> but reckon it might be tricky!
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> cry0gen,  more stuff then we will ever use/lnow about. :P
[11:06] <varsendaggr> pablo89, what language    or whirl is a codeing  language
[11:06] <brian98> would I be correct?
[11:06] <kaot> silox: it won't give an error if it fails to register
[11:06] <LookTJ> dr_willis i forgot commands to install jdk 5 update 8
[11:06] <kaot> silox: so it looks successful, but never actually registered
[11:07] <silox> If i scan for it though
[11:07] <silox> it its broadcasting
[11:07] <cry0gen> Dr_Willis: yeah cause Java's VM core is about 10 year old code
[11:07] <cry0gen> that is not a hide nor a hair worth it.
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> silox: have you tried it from the network manager?
[11:07] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: that worked thank you
[11:07] <LookTJ> dr_willis java vm sucks btw
[11:07] <LookTJ> :P
[11:07] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: yeah WGA eventually doesn't even let you log in before activating the copy
[11:07] <Macros42> what firewall is recommended for ubuntu?
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: good to know.
[11:07] <cry0gen> RamiKassab: yeah it does :|
[11:07] <silox> I tried that but it would just hang at the part where its
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[11:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[11:08] <LookTJ> firestarter
[11:08] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: yeah so make sure you fix it in a timely manner
[11:08] <brian98> anyone have experience of ubuntu on a Fujitsu Siemens laptop?
[11:08] <mooky> ipables is a winner
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> LookTJ,  whatever. :P makes no matter to me.
[11:08] <cry0gen> RamiKassab: All of my copies (i have a corp key) got nailed by WGA
[11:08] <silox> i guess trying to aquire the AP
[11:08] <cry0gen> some how
[11:08] <kaot> silox: you using wep?
[11:08] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: is there a way to make it so I can access the files off the NTFS partition outside of the terminal?
[11:08] <cry0gen> I called them up and they removed the report
[11:08] <brian98> Silox: What card is it?
[11:08] <cry0gen> and gave me the fix
[11:08] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: for example, using the FIle Browser
[11:08] <MKR> sudo nautilus
[11:08] <cry0gen> So i removed it.
[11:08] <brian98> Are you using native drivers?
[11:08] <brian98> anyone have experience of ubuntu on a Fujitsu Siemens laptop?
[11:08] <printk> RamiKassab: what do you mean outside the terminal?  if the NTFS partition is mounted you can access it period.
[11:08] <bioticpro> looks like MySpace is requiring Flash 9 now =(
[11:08] <mooky> brian98 stop asking
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: you need to run the file manager as the superuser. Run gksudo nautilus, not sudo nautilus.
[11:09] <silox> Man I wish its some cheapo delight I picked up at frys an airlink that uses marvell drivers
[11:09] <MKR> what he said
[11:09] <absolut> anyone know why 'make' command isn't working for me? (command now found) -- in ubuntu
[11:09] <MKR> What's the difference between the two anyway?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> brian98: have a look at the LaptopTestingTeam wiki
[11:09] <Macros42> thanks - that was a fast response :)
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> absolut: what are you trying to build?
[11:09] <nozorro> fyrestrtr: i think RamiKassab is better off adding the 'auto' option in fstab
[11:09] <absolut> stellarium
[11:09] <printk> absolut: try using the absolute path.  /usr/bin/make
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> nozorro: he's on livecd
[11:09] <MKR> nozorro, he's on a livecd
[11:09] <absolut> oki
[11:09] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ahh got ya
[11:09] <printk> absolut: if that works then it's your $PATH variable
[11:10] <RamiKassab> nozorro: I am running a livecd so don't think I can do that
[11:10] <MKR> You can, it just won't be saved
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> !info stellarium
[11:10] <ubotu> stellarium: real-time photo-realistic sky generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1028 kB, installed size 2232 kB
[11:10] <MKR> You have a fully functional linux distro right now
[11:10] <brian98> fyrestrtr: Great resource...
[11:10] <brian98> Thanks!!
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> absolut: its in repos, use that.
[11:10] <LookTJ> found the commands
[11:10] <MKR> You can even use apt-get
[11:10] <pufx> hi, someone make a LFS ?
[11:11] <MKR> or aptitude
[11:11] <absolut> bash: /usr/bin/make: No such file or directory
[11:11] <printk> Linux from scratch?
[11:11] <pufx> printk yes
[11:11] <_lupine> pufx: it's a PITA :)
[11:11] <madfox> can anyone spare a few minutes about HT ?
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> absolut: stellarium is available for ubuntu. You don't need to compile it. Enable the universe repository, and then just install it.
[11:11] <cry0gen> ikonia: you develop with LFS?
[11:11] <JDahl> absolut, do you have gcc etc. installed?
[11:11] <printk> I've done it before yes, but this is #ubuntu :)
[11:11] <cry0gen> or are you on the LFS team?
[11:11] <ikonia> cry0gen I am a maintainer
[11:11] <ikonia> yes
[11:11] <_lupine> very nice
[11:11] <p0seidon> sup?
[11:11] <absolut> i believe so
[11:11] <cry0gen> I have 6 servers running my version of LFS.
[11:11] <cry0gen> :)
[11:11] <pufx> printk yes.. but in the channel lfs i'vnt responses :S
[11:11] <MKR> I couldn't figure out what to do with the downloads for LFS
[11:12] <printk> absolut: hrm looks like you need to reinstall make
[11:12] <cry0gen> Lots of custom things put in place on those builds.
[11:12] <JDahl> absolut, couldn't hurt to try installing build-essentials
[11:12] <blue-frog> is there a way to change gnome-terminal default windo size?
[11:12] <absolut> Yeah i installed the one from Synaptic ..but fonts were messed up ...couldn't see anything ..so i went to Stellarium site and downloaded it from there
[11:12] <pufx> printk you know how i can make a linux instalation cd ?
[11:12] <ikonia> cry0gen is there a reason you are asking about LFS in #ubuntu ?
[11:12] <brian98> fyrestrtr:  3D Acceleration
[11:12] <brian98> 
[11:12] <brian98> N/A
[11:12] <brian98> 
[11:12] <brian98> N/A
[11:12] <printk> pufx: well doing LFS most people can find their own anwsers
[11:12] <brian98> Argh!!
[11:12] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, hi... it still doesn't work.. can you help me ?
[11:12] <madfox> can anyone spare a few minutes about HT ? pm me please, I have checked forum and stuff but still ...
[11:12] <printk> pufx: that requires alot more than i can tell u on irc :)
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> madfox: just ask the question.
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: what were you trying to fix?
[11:13] <p0seidon> that's a secret
[11:13] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: do you have a GUI running?
[11:13] <pufx> printk i know... but i need documentation...
[11:13] <printk> absolut: sudo apt-get install make
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> absolut: install build-essential
[11:13] <pufx> printk some url :D
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> printk: NO
[11:13] <cry0gen> ikonia: nope I wasnt asking about it at all
[11:13] <absolut> thanks
[11:13] <cry0gen> I just heard you say LFS
[11:13] <cry0gen> lol
[11:13] <ikonia> ooh sorry, I thought someone was asking about it
[11:13] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, i did a dist-upgrade and now each time i use aptitude i get : perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[11:13] <ikonia> hence why I changed to my regular nick
[11:13] <MKR> D:
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  which gui? using KDE at the moment. :)
[11:13] <MKR> My home folder is 4.4gbn
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: what locale are you using?
[11:13] <ikonia> I use my hidden nick when I don't want to be pestered about lfs
[11:13] <MKR> -n
[11:13] <absolut> Package make is not available ... i think my repositories are messed up
[11:14] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde  here's what i was talking aobut
[11:14] <Hexidigital__> *aobut
[11:14] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, i'm using pt_PT
[11:14] <printk> fyrestrtr: no to what?
[11:14] <mooky> not that I mean you pestered me
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> absolut: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:14] <printk> oh build-essential that's right
[11:14] <MKR> Is there any way to get a breakdown of a folder and its subfolders so I can see where the space usage is?
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> printk: no to apt-get install make
[11:14] <mooky> MKR du
[11:14] <MKR> thanks
[11:14] <mooky> tree
[11:14] <absolut> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  they are manually removing all those packages. :P no simple remove ubuntu-desktop heh. thats a NASTY looking site. lol
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> MKR: du --max-depth=1 -h /some/folder
[11:14] <absolut> def. a repository issue no?
[11:15] <pufx> someone know some documentation for make an instalation linux cd ?
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> absolut: sudo apt-get update
[11:15] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: lol... it worked on my laptop, however... after a fresh install, i don't see much harm
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: that locale might not be available for perl?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  as far as i know  sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop   will NOT remove all of the xubuntu packages   UNLESS you used apititude
[11:15] <blue-frog> MKR: df -k /home will give you the size of /home partition for example
[11:15] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[11:15] <absolut> same error
[11:15] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: yes, i change apt-get to aptitude
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  notice the first line..--> If you used ---> aptitude  <---- to install other desktop environments,
[11:15] <MKR> I need a breakdown of the subfolders though; du looks like what I need
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: hrmm, seems your pt_PT isn't setup correctly. Did you go through that site?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> heh. if ya dident use apitiude - then you got to do it the hard way
[11:16] <MKR> Trying to track down space use =P
[11:16] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, yes
[11:16] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: but i'm removing the one that i installed by default
[11:16] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, i everything went ok
[11:16] <graft> why do i get an 'RPC Error : 15  (program not registered)' when I try to NFS mount this thingy?
[11:16] <Qwell> umm...stupid question..  Why can I not install sshd on the desktop version?  heh
[11:16] <madfox> I have a Medion Laptop ... drivers for XP are a mess, Linux gets all right, Now using cpuid I see the HT flag is enabled, I have a p4-M on my laptop Question: It says HT siblings 1 so that means there is not HT at all ? or that it's not viewing it right ... or what ? The guy I got the laptop from told me it was HT ...
[11:16] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: just thought i'd show you that
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  i wonder how up to date that site is..
[11:16] <printk> Qwell: hrm who says you can't?
[11:16] <absolut> Can you paste me a repository that has 'make' or 'build-essentials' ?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  also what about other kde/gnome/whatever related packatges :P
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> graft: possibly could mean, your computer isn't authorized by the server.
[11:16] <MKR> Is there a way to sort du output by space?
[11:16] <Qwell> printk: apt?
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> absolut: its in the main repos.
[11:17] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: 09/03/2006
[11:17] <Hexidigital__> *04
[11:17] <printk> Qwell: and it told you this by?
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> MKR: pipe the output to sort
[11:17] <graft> fyrestrtr: well i think i have the correct netmask etc. in /etc/exports on the server
[11:17] <Qwell> printk: me trying to install ssh :p
[11:17] <Deformative> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42158
[11:17] <MKR> D:
[11:17] <Deformative> Anyone know who made that?
[11:17] <MKR> didn't know about sort
[11:17] <pufx> ok thanks ;)
[11:17] <MKR> thanks
[11:17] <Qwell> because there was no /etc/init.d/ssh
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> MKR: man sort :)
[11:17] <printk> Qwell: ok i mean what exactly did it say?  apt-get install ssh
[11:17] <printk> it works for me
[11:17] <Qwell> Package ssh is not available, but is referred..blah
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> graft: netmount running?
[11:18] <Qwell> openssh-client ssh-askpass-gnome
[11:18] <Qwell> Package ssh has no installation candidate
[11:18] <graft> fyrestrtr: netmount? rpc.mountd and rpc.statd are running...
[11:18] <DeKo> hmmm, is there any dreamcast emulator for Ubuntu?
[11:18] <printk> openssh-server is what you need
[11:18] <printk> looks like you have repo issues
[11:18] <marshall> hey guys
[11:18] <madfox> so, can anyone help me corectly identify my cpu to see if it's HT capable or not ?
[11:18] <cry0gen> Qwell: openssh
[11:18] <cry0gen> ;)
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> graft: on both?
[11:18] <Qwell> Couldn't find package openssh-server
[11:18] <Qwell> Couldn't find package openssh
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> madfox: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:18] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, thanks anyway
[11:18] <marshall> how do you make apps that run under root have the same theme as normal apps?
[11:18] <cry0gen> apt-cache search openssh
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> madfox: that will give you tons of info.
[11:18] <stefg> !info openssh-server
[11:18] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[11:18] <madfox> not enough
[11:18] <Qwell> openssh-client
[11:18] <graft> fyrestrtr: um... there's no exports on th eclient so no rpc.mountd there
[11:18] <brian98> sqell -- sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:19] <printk> Qwell: did you mess with your sources.list?
[11:19] <Qwell> printk: nope
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> graft: I once ran into your error, and it was an acl issue, that's all I remember :(
[11:19] <marshall> how do you make apps that run under root have the same theme as normal apps?
[11:19] <brian98> qwell: even -- sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:19] <brian98> Works for me
[11:19] <madfox> i know ti should see 2 proc only with the 686 kernel with ht=on right ?
[11:19] <Qwell> well, it doesn't work here :P
[11:19] <stefg> Qwell: openssh-server is the package you're looking for
[11:19] <madfox> well it doesn't
[11:19] <graft> fyrestrtr: acl issue... i don't have acls, i'm using ext3... hrm
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> madfox: then you don't have HT enabled CPU
[11:19] <brian98> maybe you haven't got all the sources added..
[11:19] <Qwell> stefg: and what would I need to add to sources.list?  It's not there
[11:20] <printk> I only use the official repos
[11:20] <printk> and it lets me
[11:20] <printk> all though I am on edgy
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> Qwell: are you on dapper?
[11:20] <gepatino> madfox: cat /proc/cpuinfo, I think that you should see a 'ht' in Flags if it's a HT capable procesor
[11:20] <printk> but i promise LTS has openssh-server :)
[11:20] <Qwell> I've got dapper main restricted
[11:20] <Qwell> fyrestrtr: yeah
[11:20] <brian98> qwell: Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openssh-server 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 [205kB] 
[11:20] <madfox> it has HT in flags
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > Qwell
[11:20] <stefg> Qwell: it's in main, you don't need to add anything. Just sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:20] <brian98> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main ssh 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 [1052B]  Fetched 206kB in 0s (257kB/s)
[11:20] <gepatino> madfox: ubuntu's i686 kernel has smp support out of the box.
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> madfox: maybe ht is turned off in your bios.
[11:20] <Qwell> stefg: yeah, it would work if it was there. :)
[11:21] <brian98> stefg: I tried that and it failed
[11:21] <printk> Qwell: you do have dapper/main in your sources.list right?
[11:21] <Qwell> I do
[11:21] <brian98> stefg: but if I just do ssh it works
[11:21] <EV|Toshiba> I was running Xubnutnu, then someone told me to install Kubuntu packages.. now I cant connect ot he internet...any help on this?
[11:21] <gepatino> madfox: if you're using that kernel, maybe your procesor is not ht
[11:21] <Qwell> meh, silly apt
[11:21] <madfox> I know 686 has but running the 686 kernel doesn't change a thing
[11:21] <stefg> !info openssh-server
[11:21] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[11:21] <brian98> E: Package ssh-server has no installation candidate
[11:21] <tich> how would i rename a usb drive?
[11:21] <printk> brian98: openssh-server
[11:21] <stefg> _open_ssh-server
[11:21] <absolut> What is build-essential package for Ubuntu?
[11:21] <brian98> argh
[11:21] <brian98> solly
[11:21] <absolut> I have no make binary
[11:21] <w30> How do I install the source code for my kernel "2.6.15-26-amd64-generic"?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> brian98: openssh-server
[11:22] <brian98> sorry guys
[11:22] <bionoid> There is an "eyecandy feature" that draws a "growing 1px square" starting at whatever icon I click in the launch bar.. Is there a way to disable it?!
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> madfox: what cpu do you have?
[11:22] <madfox> p4 mobile
[11:22] <printk> w30: kernel-source i think is the package name
[11:22] <brian98> If I apt-get install ssh then it sets up the server and I can connect remotely without a problem
[11:22] <gnomefreak> absolut: it provides tools like a compilier and make (its for building compiling packages
[11:22] <absolut> gnomefreak: What package?
[11:22] <brian98> but you wanna do something different so apologies...
[11:23] <madfox> but I can't identify it right it's either the HT version or it's just the normal ....
[11:23] <Qwell> had to apt-get update a couple more times...
[11:23] <rhymes_> any clues about the reason why dpkg it failing so badly? "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault."
[11:23] <w30> printk, then I have to install patches?
[11:23] <absolut> gnomefreak: build-essential doesn't exist in Ubuntu. But it does in Debian.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> absolut: build-essential
[11:23] <Qwell> (yes, a couple)
[11:23] <fyrestrtr> madfox: grep model /proc/cpuinfo <-- paste the ouput of that.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> absolut: sure it does
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> !info build-essential
[11:23] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:23] <gnomefreak> !build-essential
[11:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:23] <mooky> w30 depends if ou want patches
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> :) beat ya!
[11:23] <fyrestrtr> Dr_Willis: you got the wrong trigger :P
[11:23] <knapper> What's a good id3 tag editor for linux(gnome)
[11:23] <graft> haha, stupid hosts.allow... damnit
[11:23] <knapper> ?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[11:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:23] <madfox> model           : 2
[11:23] <madfox> model name      : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 2.80GHz
[11:23] <madfox> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
[11:24] <madfox> should say HT in the model name no ? then why is the HT flag set ?
[11:24] <gepatino> madfox: I have a HT PIV, and the first line is model: 4
[11:24] <w30> mooky, I want the same kernel I have now, I need it for an install of a 3rd party kernel module.
[11:25] <gepatino> madfox: i thought that the ht in flags was that, but was just a guess :|
[11:25] <printk> w30: then really if you're compling 3rd party drivers all you should need is the kernel headers
[11:25] <madfox> at least i have speed stepping :)
[11:25] <mooky> w30 so you won't need patches
[11:25] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: sorry I had to go do something but I lost the messages you had sent about starting the file browser as sudo... I run what again?
[11:25] <gepatino> madfox: cpu family: 15
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> gksudo nautilus
[11:25] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: gksudo? what's the diff between that and just sudo?
[11:25] <narg> !restrictedformats
[11:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:25] <rhymes_> no clues whatsoever guys? why I have a segfault on dpkg?
[11:25] <printk> w30: if u can't get the exact source from the repo, get it from kernel.org
[11:26] <printk> for your kernel version
[11:26] <w30> printk, so I can install kernel headers, how? is there a .deb for that?
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: sudo is for non-gui apps, gksudo is for gui apps. Something to do with file permissions and .... oh yeah, not breaking stuff :)
[11:26] <madfox> yes it's cpu familiy 15
[11:26] <absolut> gnomefreak: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GUldyj23.html
[11:26] <mooky> kernel-headers package
[11:26] <stefg> rhymes_: wrong libc6...
[11:26] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ah got ya... the command isn't working though :(
[11:26] <printk> w30: kernel-headers is the package
[11:26] <absolut> That is my sources.list and I do sudo apt-get install build-essential but it says there is no installation candidate
[11:26] <gepatino> madfox: check your bios anyway... maybe its missconfigured
[11:26] <w30> mooky, ok wonderful
[11:26] <rhymes_> stefg: mmm how that happened?
[11:26] <brian98> Everytime I disconnect from a ms rdp connection tsclient bombs out with various different errors.
[11:26] <printk> absolut: did you read that link from ubotu on compiling?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> absolut: ok hold on
[11:26] <brian98> is there a fix
[11:27] <brian98> or is it just me?
[11:27] <brian98> cant find anything in any of the usual suspect places
[11:27] <madfox> what can I tell you my bios has very few options ... it's been driving me crazy, not at all the usual options you get on a PC
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: what are you typing?
[11:27] <absolut> printk: yes
[11:27] <mooky> brian98 what are the usual suspects ?
[11:27] <brian98> ubuntuforums.org
[11:27] <stefg> rhymes_: played with /evil/ entries in your sources.list ? :-)
[11:27] <brian98> ubunto.com support wiki
[11:27] <brian98> GOOGLE! :)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> absolut: you have no repos enabled other than quinns
[11:27] <mooky> right, so you've not tried to debug anything
[11:27] <mooky> you've just looked on a forum
[11:28] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: typing 'gksudo nautilus'
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: and what happens?
[11:28] <gepatino> madfox: sorry... that's all i can do for you :(
[11:28] <brian98> sorry :(
[11:28] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: says Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:28] <gnomefreak> absolut: make yours look like this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[11:28] <gnomefreak> dinner ill be back
[11:28] <madfox> anyway thanks for the help guys about HT, I also wonder how to get the battery power gauge to get better aproximates ?
[11:28] <factotum> anyone know how to handle a .uif file in linux? In windows i think it needs magiciso to open it.
[11:28] <absolut> oka. thanks
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: are you running this from a terminal or console?
[11:28] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: remember I am logged in as root right now because of the sudo -i command I typed in earlier to access the partition
[11:28] <rhymes_> stefg: I dunno but I reinstalled libc6 recently. I was trying to upgrade to edgy... and then went back to dapper. The problem now that apt needs to finish a task and I can't install (or remove) anything else
[11:29] <stefg> rhymes_: happy reinstall !
[11:29] <rhymes_> so I think I can't even fix the libc6 issue that you mentioned
[11:29] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: what the heck is the diff between a terminal and consol? lol I thought they were one in the same
[11:29] <rhymes_> hahaha are you serious stefg ?
[11:29] <stefg> yes
[11:29] <printk> rhymes_: did you apt-get upgrade to edgy and then you also used apt-get to downgrade again?
[11:29] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: I'm running it from a terminal though
[11:29] <printk> cause that can't really be done smoothly... the downgrade i mean
[11:29] <rhymes_> printk: yup
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: a console is ctrl+alt+f1-f6 -- a terminal is gnome-terminal :)
[11:29] <rhymes_> so my box is doomed
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: just type 'nautilus'
[11:30] <factotum> doomed DOOMED
[11:30] <rhymes_> ahhaha
[11:30] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: oh ok I knew those as TTY's
[11:30] <EV|Toshiba> Any help to my question ??
[11:30] <mooky> ehsy esd yhr wurdyion
[11:30] <madfox> can one get more precise estimates from the battery monitor ?
[11:30] <mooky> what was the question
[11:30] <printk> rhymes_: well you can probably go back to edgy or fresh re-install for 6.06, your choice :)
[11:30] <rhymes_> printk: I'll try the second option first
[11:30] <rhymes_> ehm
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: a tty can be a serial port too, so it helps to call it a console vs. terminal (atleast for me)
[11:30] <rhymes_> the first first
[11:30] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: that didn't work either so I opened up another terminal that was logged in as Ubuntu (default live cd user) and did gksudo nautilus and it worked
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: hrmm, might be something to do with the livecd.
[11:31] <factotum> yeah after using a slackware desktop for about a year i learned to keep it in "stable" to keep it usable unless you know excatly what your doing
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> I've never had to actually do something like that from the livecd.
[11:31] <rhymes_> printk: one last question. If I decide to reinstall the distro, is it safe to install edgy from scratch?
[11:31] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: it must be
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> rhymes_: no, edgy is not for production use.
[11:31] <EV|Toshiba> mooky, I was running Xubnutnu, then someone told me to install Kubuntu packages.. now I cant connect ot he internet...any help on this?
[11:31] <rhymes_> I don't need stability because I mostly use my macbook now as the primary machine
[11:31] <ryanakca> can I delete /tmp/sess_* ?
[11:31] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: I'm in and browsing now though :)
[11:31] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: now to format this flash card... damn windows
[11:32] <factotum> rhymes_: do you have /home on a seperate partition than the base system?
[11:32] <printk> rhymes_: yes it's fine, get knot 2 iso
[11:32] <mooky> EV|Toshiba need more information to help you
[11:32] <Adrian2> Hi. Is there a small Ubuntu Net Install CD available?
[11:32] <rhymes_> factotum: obviously
[11:32] <factotum> haha alright
[11:32] <factotum> just checkin
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> !installation > Adrian2
[11:32] <printk> rhymes_: all though if you install edgy at any given point your system can break with an apt-get upgrade
[11:32] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: thank god I'm running ubuntu on this machine... I love it
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: :)
[11:32] <rhymes_> I also have /boot on a separate machine
[11:32] <marshall> how do you make apps that run under root have the same theme as normal apps?
[11:32] <rhymes_> s/machine/partition
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> rhymes_: separate machine?
[11:32] <mooky> EV|Toshiba don't pm me
[11:32] <factotum> err...machine eh?
[11:33] <rhymes_> s/machine/partition
[11:33] <printk> marshall: same theme? need more info what you mean
[11:33] <Adrian2> fyrestrtr thank you
[11:33] <factotum> i know i know
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> rhymes_: wow -- you must have a really loong ide cable :P
[11:33] <nozorro> marshall: you link the them to the system theme directory
[11:33] <DBO> marshall, copy your theme folder to /usr/share/themes
[11:33] <mooky> EV|Toshiba repeating the same comment in a pm won't give me any more information to help you
[11:33] <rhymes_> fyrestrtr: ajhahahah
[11:33] <marshall> nozorro: how do i do that?
[11:33] <DBO> nozorro, copy, not link, linking from a root owned folder to a folder owned area = bad mojo
[11:33] <imanoatl> hola
[11:33] <DBO> root owned dir to a user owned dir
[11:33] <DBO> you get the idea...
[11:33] <marshall> DBO: what happens when i install and use a new theme then?
[11:34] <rhymes_> so let's see if I can fix this. I was downloading inuyasha 6th series before this crap :-(
[11:34] <DBO> marshall, copy that over too =)
[11:34] <nozorro> marshall: ln -s /~.themes/themename /usr/share/themes *i think* -- lemme check
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> marshall: what are you running as root that needs to be themed in the first place?
[11:34] <marshall> DBO: lol what a rip
[11:34] <EV|Toshiba> mooky, what do you want to me to tell you? Im not sure what you need...
[11:34] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ok here's the next question, how do I format a flash drive to fat32 within linux?
[11:34] <DBO> marshall, its not that bad =P
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: System > Administration > Disks
[11:34] <marshall> thanks nozorro, DBO, and fyrestrtr
[11:34] <mooky> what the problem is
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: err, sorry -- System > Administration > gparted
[11:34] <mooky> not just "there is no interenet
[11:35] <kevinG> How can I see what programs are running?
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> mooky: tubes are clogged? snakes on a plane? what? what?!
[11:35] <mooky> eg; is the network configured ? are you using a network modem, a usb modem, can it resolve dns etc
[11:35] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ok Gnome Parition Editor... in now
[11:35] <alxandra_> can anybody please tell me a way to mount my disk from live cd
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> kevinG: gnome-system-monitor
[11:35] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ok let me tinker around
[11:35] <marshall> DBO: is this the correct command though?
[11:35] <printk> kevinG: ps aux|more in terminal
[11:35] <EV|Toshiba> mooky, im using Lan. (verizon fios..) and the nets not configured.
[11:35] <ryanakca> can I delete /tmp/sess_* ?
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> alxandra_: system > administration > disks
[11:35] <marshall> DBO:  ln -s ~/.themes/ /usr/share/themes/
[11:35] <EV|Toshiba> and I dont know how to configure it..
[11:36] <alxandra_> fyrestrtr i tried but it doent work
[11:36] <mooky> EV|Toshiba look on the wiki
[11:36] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:36] <mooky> !wiki
[11:36] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[11:36] <alxandra_> i am usin breezy live cd
[11:36] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:36] <alxandra_> yes it deosnt work
[11:36] <DBO> marshall, no, to create a link (possible security issue) ln -s ~/.themes/themedir /usr/share/themes/themedir
[11:36] <teethdood> how do I restart the sound system? it stops working after waking up fmro hibernation
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> teethdood: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-tools restart
[11:36] <DBO> marshall, it would be better to use cp instead of ln -s
[11:37] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: if I'm gonna be sharing this flash drive between linux and windows machines, it's prob smartest to format it as fat32 instead of ntfs correct?
[11:37] <printk> alxandra_: open up a terminal and use mount(1) command
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: yes.
[11:37] <iMeow> hi everyone, i've a bit of a question regarding swaping files between windows and linux
[11:37] <printk> alxandra_: what mount -t <fs> -o rw /dev/<partitoon> /<mnt_point>
[11:37] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ok thanks man... I really appreciate all of the help
[11:37] <bobbyd> hi
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: no problem, hope you get it sorted out. By the way, how long does it take WGA to lock the machine?
[11:37] <ryanakca> mooky: ignore them, they're not worth your time
[11:38] <madfox> anyone from Romania ?
[11:38] <bobbyd> is anyone here using kdevelop? I get a crash on exit that loses my projects under dapper...
[11:38] <mooky> ryanakca does it matter ?
[11:38] <mooky> oops
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> bobbyd: ouch :( bad bug.
[11:38] <alxandra_> printk, disk manager mounts swap space but i doesnt mount the main partition
[11:38] <mooky> sorry ryanakca
[11:38] <mooky> wrong nick
[11:38] <printk> alxandra_: yah you'll need to do it yourself.  use the mount command
[11:38] <alxandra_> let me try it
[11:38] <ryanakca> mooky: lol :P too late or too early in the morning ? :D
[11:38] <iMeow> i have a usb memory stick that i use to lug my website around so i can work on it at work, and it works great :D but only problem is when i bring the files back home, they lose all file permissions they once had and only keep "owner" permissions.  so i have to manually set permissions again before my files will work in linux. my memory stick uses FAT32, any way around that?
[11:38] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: that I couldn't tell ya. there are a bunch of fixes for it though, let me find ya the torrent I used to fix another win machine of mine
[11:39] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: no, I don't want to fix it -- I just want to use that as leverage for installing linux ;)
[11:39] <mooky> ryanakca nah, I'm just sloppy typing tonight
[11:39] <mooky> trusted auto complete
[11:39] <mooky> foolishly
[11:39] <spuddogg> Any Linux networking gurus in here?
[11:39] <Anubuntu> Hello folks, can someone tell me an application that allows me to update my ipod in ubuntu?
[11:39] <MetaMorfoziS> any linux surround gurus in here?
[11:40] <printk> Anubuntu: gtkpod
[11:40] <lontra> Anubuntu: or banshee
[11:40] <firippu> iMeow: fat32 doesnt have the features you need to retain the permissions
[11:40] <stefg> iMeow: you'll have to use a file-system that knows about permissions on the stick... reformat it to ext2 or any other linux filesystem
[11:40] <ryanakca> bobbyd: I use kdevelop, try submitting a bug report with a back trace, steps to reproduce, etc
[11:40] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: hah ahh ok... I'm not sure exactly how long it takes and what triggers it if anything... I just know that it does and there is almost no way to get back into the machine without purchasing legit copies
[11:40] <mooky> spuddogg just ask
[11:40] <spuddogg> MetaMorfoziS, surround?
[11:40] <ryanakca> !anyone
[11:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:40] <iMeow> will windows 2000 be able to read ext2 natively?
[11:40] <rhymes_> I'm doomed
[11:40] <rhymes_> more segfaults
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> iMeow: no
[11:40] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, 5.1 with integrated  Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[11:40] <bobbyd> ryanakca, have you not seen it crashing under dapper?
[11:40] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: well, I'm sure there are some reg hacks from with the repair consol you could do to get it but it's a bitch from what I've heard
[11:40] <rhymes_> I think I'm gonna backup and reinstall
[11:40] <iMeow> and, will ntfs retain the permissions?
[11:41] <marshall> DBO: it keeps saying its omitting directory '/home/jeff/.themes/'
[11:41] <MetaMorfoziS> my problem is it uses the line in and mic as inputs, not outpust for front and sub/center...
[11:41] <ryanakca> bobbyd: no
[11:41] <stefg> iMeow: no, but there's a driver on it on fsdriver.org
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> iMeow: ntfs permissions don't work in linux.
[11:41] <spuddogg> mooky, I'm trying to get another linux box to be able to read a network drive...I keep getting an error saying the share is not valid, or that it was recently deleted
[11:41] <NickGarvey> what file determines my $PATH variable?
[11:41] <DBO> marcin_ant, what exact command are you using?
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> NickGarvey: ~/.bashrc
[11:41] <ryanakca> can I delete the files: /tmp/sess_* ?
[11:41] <bobbyd> ryanakca, what build system do you use? qmake? automake?
[11:41] <mooky> spuddogg what protocol to share the drive ?
[11:41] <mooky> samba, nfs ?
[11:41] <alxandra_> printk , i get "
[11:41] <alxandra_> mount: /dev/hdc5 already mounted or /mnt busy
[11:41] <alxandra_> " but it is not mounted i cant explore it
[11:42] <DBO> marshall, what exact command are you using?
[11:42] <bigjb> iMeow: you can also try explore2fs
[11:42] <printk> alxandra_: well is something already in /mnt?
[11:42] <mooky> alxandra_ what is your present working directory
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> alxandra_: type 'mount' and you'll see where its mounted.
[11:42] <muhammad> hey when i tried to install cdemu it gives me this message Makefile:31: *** You'll need sources for your (at least 2.6.16) kernel.  Stop.
[11:42] <muhammad>  ?
[11:42] <ryanakca> bobbyd: I haven't used it seriously yet, but I've messed around with both
[11:42] <alxandra_> no there is nothing it is empty
[11:42] <mooky> alxandra_ what is your present working directory
[11:42] <linux_user400354> bchunk creates two iso files from my bin and cue file. why? does someone use a different program in linux to create an iso from a bin and cue file?
[11:42] <iMeow> damn i was hoping to avoid installing anything at work
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> !cdemu
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <spuddogg> mooky, im not sure what you mean
[11:42] <bobbyd> ryanakca, ahh ok, so you're not using it heavily, that's probably why you haven't seen the bug
[11:42] <MetaMorfoziS> so?
[11:42] <alxandra_> i write /mnt as mount point
[11:42] <spuddogg> mooky, you mean smb?
[11:43] <bobbyd> ryanakca, I'll submit a repro case
[11:43] <mooky> spuddogg what software is sharing the drive ?
[11:43] <EV|Toshiba> mooky, in the wiki there is NO help for me on my subject.
[11:43] <mooky> samba, nfs, or another
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> muhammad: install linux-source
[11:43] <Red-Sox> What kernel version does ubuntu use? 2.6?
[11:43] <godfather> g' night guys
[11:43] <mooky> EV|Toshiba yes there is
[11:43] <iMeow> oh well, guess i'll have to work with that
[11:43] <iMeow> *bows*
[11:43] <spuddogg> mooky, i just tried to share the file...i right-clicked, then went to sharing
[11:43] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: wow on this machine gnome partition manager doesn't exist in System->Admin, did they just recently add it to newer releases or is it just on the live cd? I'm running 6.06 here
[11:43] <someusernoob> Red-Sox: uname -a
 sudo apt-get install linux-source ?
[11:43] <mooky> spuddogg try to ping or ssh from one box to the other to make sure you can at least see them on the network
[11:43] <mooky> first of all
[11:43] <jptxs> hello all
[11:43] <Red-Sox> someusernoob: ?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: its not installed by default, its just on the livecd.
[11:43] <EV|Toshiba> mooky, I cant find it. anywhere. I cant find anything on how to setup internet on kbuntunu, using an lan connection.
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> muhammad: yes
[11:44] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ah got it
[11:44] <spuddogg> mooky, yes, ssh works fine
[11:44] <someusernoob> Red-Sox: type it in the terminal
[11:44] <mooky> EV|Toshiba its on there
[11:44] <mooky> spuddogg ok - thats cool
[11:44] <Red-Sox> someusernoob: I don't have it installed
[11:44] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[11:44] <stefg> iMeow: no way. anyway the win-driver for ext2 can't handle permissions properly... Blame MS for it's filesystem flaws
[11:44] <mooky> try to mount it locally as a network device using 127.0.0.1
[11:44] <Red-Sox> hi marcin_ant
[11:44] <mooky> see if it is working
[11:44] <jptxs> I've just gotten through an install to the base system setup and got an MD5 checksum error.  Am I screwed or can I tell apt to somehow force it since it does seem to be OK
[11:44] <someusernoob> Red-Sox; oh, in that case:  2.6.15-26-
[11:44] <marcin_ant> I need to change default gtk theme for apps that I want to run without gnome session
[11:44] <Red-Sox> okay thanks
[11:44] <jptxs> I burned the disc on my mac and that seems to be the source of the issue
[11:44] <printk> EV|Toshiba: i just did google "fios + ubuntu" and alot of links come up including some wiki
[11:45] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how to do this with some different method than gtk-theme-switch2?
[11:45] <jptxs> the MD5 error was on the kernel, by the way =]   so nothing I can skip...
[11:45] <rhymes_> thanks guys. I'll be back when edgy will be up and running. bye
[11:45] <EV|Toshiba> How come Xubuntu worked right out of the box, and now Kubuntu goes in and now it doesnt work worth a shit. How do I go about installing Xubuntu back there?
[11:46] <mooky> EV|Toshiba put the cd in
[11:46] <printk> EV|Toshiba: putting the xubuntu in :)
[11:46] <mooky> click install
[11:46] <EV|Toshiba> But i dont want to reinstall everything again
[11:46] <printk> then get kubuntu to work
[11:46] <ryanakca> EV|Toshiba: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[11:46] <Gumby> is there a gnome program to help create and organize the gnome application menu?
[11:46] <alxandra_> disk manager shows "unformatted" for the file system of my disk. could this be the problem for not mounting it? (but it is formatted ext3 i am sure)
[11:46] <mooky> the desktop has nothing to do with this
[11:47] <mooky> alxandra_ I'll as you one last time
[11:47] <mooky> what is your present working directory
[11:47] <alxandra_> home
[11:47] <alxandra_> you ask this?
[11:47] <h6w> Hello.  I've just installed ubuntu 64bit on an Intel EM64T processor and I'm getting some extremely strange behaviour.   Little things like the Firefox search bar won't respond to the enter key, and the system crashes when I log off.   Any ideas?
[11:47] <nozorro> Gumby: Applications > Acessories > Alcarte Menu Editor
[11:47] <ryanakca> alxandra_: run "pwd" in console/terminal, and then tell that to mooky
[11:47] <Gumby> nozorro: thanks
[11:48] <alxandra_> /home/ubuntu
[11:48] <mooky> I'm checking your not in /mnt while trying to mount
[11:48] <nozorro> Gumby: it's slow and clunky, but works
[11:48] <alxandra_> no i am not. i can mount the swap space but i can do the same thing for my main partition
[11:48] <alxandra_> dou you have any idea
[11:48] <mooky> you talk utter rubbish
[11:49] <mooky> show me the output of "mount" in a pastebin
[11:49] <alxandra_> mount: /dev/hdc5 already mounted or /mnt busy
[11:49] <kozmic> im gonna replace my drive. it should work to just copy everything over to the new hdd, rewrite the MBR and it should boot fine, right?
[11:49] <mooky> alxandra_ do you read what people type or just answer random questions ?
[11:49] <mooky> I said please show me the output of "mount" in a pastebin
[11:49] <EV|Toshiba> mooky, Xubuntu was installed, then Kubuntu package's were installed. Whats hte command to go back to Xubuntu?
[11:49] <printk> alxandra_: when you type mount by itself (with no options) put that in pastebin please
[11:49] <stefg> alxandra_: you're completly lost... you could never mount swapspace. look at your partitions again and get sorted
[11:50] <jptxs> any way to get apt to force an install during basic system setup?  kernel giving MD5 erro but appears fine.
[11:50] <printk> yah you "swapon" swap :)
[11:50] <alxandra_> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot on / type auto (rw,noatime)
[11:50] <alxandra_> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[11:50] <alxandra_> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[11:50] <alxandra_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[11:50] <alxandra_> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[11:50] <alxandra_> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[11:50] <alxandra_> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[11:50] <mooky> jesus
[11:50] <alxandra_> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[11:50] <mooky> I said in a pastebin !
[11:50] <alxandra_> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[11:50] <EV|Toshiba> Oh great...
[11:50] <ryanakca> !pastebin
[11:50] <alxandra_> it is not mounted
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <spuddogg> mooky, any more ideas for me?
[11:50] <Snake_> What does everyone use as a IRC client?
[11:50] <spuddogg> Snake xChat
[11:50] <kozmic> Snake_: irssi
[11:50] <bbrazil> Snake_: xchat, irssi, bitchx
[11:50] <someusernoob> Snake: irssi
[11:50] <mooky> spuddogg try to mount it locally as a network share
[11:50] <mooky> using 127.0.0.1
[11:51] <ryanakca> EV|Toshiba: log out, you'll see a little menu someweres on the login screen. select XFCE or Xubuntu
[11:51] <Snake_> hmm
[11:51] <h6w> kozmic: If I were migrating to a new drive, I'd dd the first to the second, reinstall the MBR, then use parted to expand the partition to the size you want.
[11:51] <mooky> alxandra_ unless you learn to read and respond to requests properly - you'll not get any help
[11:51] <alxandra_> i am sorry
[11:51] <bigjb> alxandra_: have you tried creating a new directory and mouting it there?
[11:51] <alxandra_> no
[11:51] <LookTJ> !ssh
[11:51] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:51] <alxandra_> i tred to mount it directly to /mnt
[11:52] <alxandra_> is this the problem
[11:52] <spuddogg> mooky, when i right click on the folder i want to share and go to "Share folder", it gives me the options "Share with (SMB)",  Name, and comment
[11:52] <mooky> ok
[11:52] <LookTJ> what is ssh exactly
[11:52] <LookTJ> ?
[11:52] <printk> LookTJ: in a nutshell imagine telnet over encrypted protocol but it's alot more than that and that's a bad description :)
[11:52] <printk> but that should bring it to light :)
[11:52] <mooky> alxandra_ show me the output of "fdisk -l /dev/hdc" in a pastebin
[11:53] <richard2> looking for a good program to generate quality text ... for graphics
[11:53] <Anubuntu> How does one update an ipod with banshee?
[11:53] <h6w> richard2: Have you tried inkscape?
[11:53] <richard2> no
[11:53] <h6w> richard2: You can also pile in your ttf fonts to inkscape as well.
[11:53] <richard2> will try ..... thx for the suggestion
[11:53] <Macros42> !wine
[11:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:53] <alxandra_> mooky
[11:53] <alxandra_> Disk /dev/hdc: 10.2 GB, 10248118272 bytes
[11:53] <alxandra_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders
[11:53] <alxandra_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:53] <alxandra_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:53] <alxandra_> /dev/hdc1   *           1          31      248976   83  Linux
[11:53] <alxandra_> /dev/hdc2              32        1245     9751455    5  Extended
[11:53] <alxandra_> /dev/hdc5              32        1245     9751423+  8e  Linux LVM
[11:54] <printk> lol alaxandra just doesn't get it
[11:54] <nozorro> nozorro: oh god
[11:54] <mooky> alxandra_ are you deaf ? I SAID IN A PASTEBIN
[11:54] <printk> pastebin!
[11:54] <ryanakca> alxandra_: PASTEBIN IT!
[11:54] <ryanakca> !pastebin > alxandra_
[11:54] <mooky> someone kick this dick
[11:54] <mooky> he just won't listen
[11:54] <alxandra_> i dont know pastebin
[11:54] <alxandra_> what is it
[11:54] <LookTJ> !pastebin
[11:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:54] <mooky> alxandra_ people are showing you the link for a pastebin 3 imes !
[11:54] <printk> lol
[11:54] <mooky> times
[11:54] <kozmic> h6w: parted is a resizetool for ext3 or reiser? but dd, i thought the drive had to be the same for that to work. but if you say so :) ill do that then. thanks
[11:54] <mathieu_> can anyone recommend a good calendar software ?
[11:54] <LookTJ> !language > mooky
[11:55] <nalioth> alxandra_: please read the /topic when you enter channels, pasting is rude
[11:55] <mooky> LookTJ what was the language warning for ?
[11:55] <kozmic> mathieu_: the one in evolution not good enough, or too complex?
[11:55] <eugman> Anyone know anything about having an encrypted harddrive and running ubuntu?
[11:55] <hondje> mathieu_: client or server? evoluton works 'good enough' for me for a client, I like hula for a server
[11:55] <mooky> want to make sure I don't use it again
[11:55] <EV|Toshiba> mooky, I have default, KDE, Xfce, Failsafe..
[11:55] <LookTJ> *dick*
[11:55] <mooky> EV|Toshiba don't care - not interested in helping you, you don't listen, not wasting my time
[11:55] <mathieu_> hondje: evolution is very slow on my machines
[11:55] <lmosher> !language > LookTJ
[11:55] <Seveas> alxandra_, please use the pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org) for pasting
[11:56] <printk> !language > printk
[11:56] <jptxs> any way to get apt to force an install during basic system setup?  kernel giving MD5 error but appears fine.
[11:56] <mooky> LookTJ understood
[11:56] <mathieu_> hondje: i guess i am looking for something a little more simple
[11:56] <kozmic> eugman: do you really need to whole system encrypted? and not only the /home and a few other dirs? if so there are solutions like truecrypt thats quite easy to set up
[11:56] <spuddogg> !language
[11:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:56] <mathieu_> hondje: that takes ical
[11:56] <LookTJ> mooky you said dick
[11:56] <Seveas> hondje, ? You here?
[11:56] <mooky> LookTJ as I said - understood
[11:56] <LookTJ> ok
[11:56] <h6w> kozmic: Yeah, parted works with pretty much anything now.  Except for 64-bit machines with 8251 boards. (As I found out recently)  dd is so low level you can pretty much use it with anything.  I still like it after all this time. :-)
[11:56] <LookTJ> i got kicked
[11:56] <lmosher> LookTJ, You've said it twice now. I'm very offended.
[11:56] <hondje> Seveas: I live again ;-)
[11:56] <Seveas> that's been a while!
[11:56] <mooky> ahh
[11:56] <eugman> kozmic, I'm sure /home would be sufficent incase of theft.
[11:56] <Seveas> hondje, great, welcome back dude!
[11:56] <LookTJ> imosher: i was talking to mooky
[11:56] <lmosher> LookTJ, well if you're going to be offensive use a pm
[11:57] <Seveas> Everyone who is awake: hug hondje!
[11:57] <hondje> mathieu_: I'll have to google it :) I've never tried anything outside of evo for a client with ubuntu
[11:57] <LookTJ> he was asking why the language warning
[11:57] <hondje> Seveas: hehe, thanks man :)
[11:57] <LookTJ> :S
[11:57] <printk> lmosher: you also have /ignore
[11:57] <nalioth> LookTJ: evidentally you offended someone with your language
[11:57] <LookTJ> imosher: and i dont use laguage like that
[11:57] <jptxs> i'd gladly hug hondje tuesday for some help today.... =] 
[11:58] <bigjb> mathieu: have you tried sunbird?
[11:58] <kozmic> h6w: thanks for the tip. ill do just that :)
[11:58] <mooky> The word I used is not normally "offensive" in the UK, hence why I asked to clarify the warning
[11:58] <LookTJ> so sorry about that though
[11:58] <kozmic> eugman: look into truecrypt then, i think it should fit your needs
[11:58] <lmosher> Actually I was teasing him.... I don't think that word is offensive in very many circles :P I'm just bored pay me no mind.
[11:58] <eugman> ok thanks
[11:58] <LookTJ> ;)
[11:58] <mooky> LookTJ - no, it was my fault
[11:58] <nalioth> mooky: LookTJ please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:58] <mooky> ????
[11:59] <nalioth> lmosher: you may join us in #ubuntu-offtopic also, if you like
[11:59] <spuddogg> anyone know how to share folders?
[11:59] <choongii> hello. can anyone point me to some docs on what the 'universe/multiverse/security' etc terms mean?
[11:59] <Seveas> spuddogg, system  admin  shared folders
[11:59] <ubuntu> im back :D
[11:59] <ompaul> mooky, it s for conversation that is not support related
[11:59] <Seveas> !components > choongii
[11:59] <mooky> why I am being asked to join "off-topic" for apologising for using incorrect language, yet, total retards are flooding the channel with rubbish and thats acceptable
[11:59] <deep> Where is that link on "howto recover ubuntu after windows installation"?
[11:59] <choongii> Seveas, thanks
[11:59] <bigjb> actually it is offensive in uk :P its entirely dependant on who you ask :P
[11:59] <LookTJ> nalioth: im in
[11:59] <stefg> !grub
[11:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:59] <mooky> I'm one of the the only ones "on topic" in here
[11:59] <deep> Thanx
[11:59] <spuddogg> Seveas, I have 2 folders I want shared there, but I cannot access them from other computers on the network
[12:00] <mooky> spuddogg I've told you how to test 3 times now
[12:00] <deep> Got to love this channel, Everyone is so friendly :D
[12:00] <jptxs> mooky: happy to ask you on-topic questions if you'd like... =] ] 
[12:00] <spuddogg> mooky, i have tested all 3 times
[12:00] <namename> Hi, I want to repair windows but I need administrator pass to do so. I forgot it and now how can I change/recover it??
[12:00] <Seveas> !windows
[12:00] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:00] <reitzell> I need to install "lame mp3 library" because I'm trying to get myth tv installed -not sure how
[12:00] <mooky> whats your results
[12:00] <mooky> did it mount /
[12:00] <bigjb> namename: ultimate bootcd
[12:00] <Seveas> reitzell, apt-get install liblame0
[12:00] <dns21> i'm new to ubuntu, i'm used to slackware and compiling from source, i'm having an issue trying to get the developmental version of the game "battle for wesnoth" on my system... could anybody help me out in how i would go about doing that
[12:00] <robbbb> yo
[12:00] <robbbb> quick question for you all
[12:00] <stefg> !info liblame0