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| troy_s | hello huwshimi | 01:54 |
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| troy_s | thanks for your contribution | 01:54 |
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| huwshimi | troy_s: np | 02:10 |
| huwshimi | troy_s: I will try to gloss up the splash screen I followed the guide as to matt background/gloss foreground. But the splash still needs some work | 02:23 |
| BHSPitLappy | hi all | 02:30 |
| troy_s | huwshimi it's too bad you weren't around at the start of the cycle | 03:33 |
| troy_s | but you should be able to pick up rather quickly -- as was one of the goals this cycle. | 03:34 |
| huwshimi | troy_s: How so? | 03:34 |
| troy_s | How so what sorry? | 03:34 |
| huwshimi | troy_s: Me not being around at the start of the cycle. | 03:34 |
| troy_s | well it would have given much time to incorporate the motif into other designs | 03:35 |
| huwshimi | troy_s: Has the default art been | 03:40 |
| huwshimi | ... chosen yet? | 03:40 |
| troy_s | not yet. | 03:40 |
| troy_s | just a gradual refinement of direction | 03:40 |
| huwshimi | ok | 03:40 |
| troy_s | unfortunately, we had to start the cycle with a very broad design base and really crunch it down as we went along | 03:41 |
| troy_s | next cycle we should be able to start with a more refined design specification | 03:41 |
| troy_s | sept 7th is the final lock date for all artwork -- then it is merely a matter of polishing | 03:41 |
| troy_s | i believe mark is getting shipped a tarball shortly based on frank's selections | 03:42 |
| troy_s | and he will ultimately decide. | 03:42 |
| troy_s | or throw it all out :) | 03:42 |
| troy_s | note that he has been quite clear regarding branding of the wallpaper... although you might get away with a minor brand | 03:42 |
| troy_s | if you read the specifications, you can see where and how branding should be incorporated. | 03:43 |
| troy_s | in actuality, there was an update to it, and I should probably update the wiki accordingly based on mark's comments from linuxworld. | 03:43 |
| huwshimi | yeah. My designs can be ripped to shreds if they want to be used | 03:43 |
| BHSPitLappy | hey | 03:48 |
| huwshimi | Hi | 03:49 |
| BHSPitLappy | troy_s, sept 7th.. applies to sound too? | 03:49 |
| troy_s | i would suspect so, as the breakdown listed on the plan page corresponds to the developer breakdown | 03:49 |
| troy_s | upon which it was based in paris | 03:49 |
| BHSPitLappy | hmm | 03:49 |
| BHSPitLappy | then it's probably too late to submit anything new? | 03:49 |
| troy_s | i wouldn't count it out | 03:52 |
| troy_s | the only thing i would say is that don't be offended if it doesn't get looked at in time | 03:52 |
| troy_s | mark is extremely busy, and ubuntu is different from the other 'buntus in that _everything_ that enters ubuntu art-wise _must_ pass through him. | 03:53 |
| troy_s | creative wise | 03:53 |
| troy_s | etc. | 03:53 |
| troy_s | that means that ultimately he wields the axe | 03:53 |
| troy_s | that said, we would love to see the sound department develop further | 03:54 |
| troy_s | i know _i_ certainly would. | 03:54 |
| BHSPitLappy | well, I would be submitting a prototype | 03:54 |
| BHSPitLappy | not even a finished, cleaned up etc | 03:54 |
| BHSPitLappy | although it's not like with graphical art... audio is relatively easier to transform from raw recordings into a finished product | 03:55 |
| troy_s | they are quite similar actually. | 03:55 |
| huwshimi | troy_s: I would like to be involved with the artwork process. I work as a graphic and web designer and audio engineer. I have a Launchpad account etc. what else do I need to do? | 03:55 |
| troy_s | but if it is in a production worthy state, i wouldn't hold back. | 03:55 |
| BHSPitLappy | troy_s, I mean, say, from a concept sketch, to a nicely made vector image | 03:56 |
| troy_s | huwshimi there is plenty to be done, and we need more folks like you. | 03:56 |
| troy_s | BHSPitLappy are you familiar with how motion pictures are edited and scored? | 03:56 |
| BHSPitLappy | troy_s, let's just say I'm 17. | 03:56 |
| troy_s | BHSPitLappy that's ok. | 03:56 |
| BHSPitLappy | and I understand what you're getting at, too... | 03:57 |
| troy_s | basically, you provide a 'temp' track that meets the thematics of the piece | 03:57 |
| BHSPitLappy | in our case, the prototype is a quick recording of my keyboard... and the finished product would be... a quick recording of my keyboard, with some editing :P | 03:57 |
| troy_s | and then write concurrently with it. | 03:57 |
| troy_s | laf. | 03:57 |
| troy_s | well i certainly say get it on the wiki to start... | 03:57 |
| BHSPitLappy | instead if going drastically from a temp track, to an arranger/composer, and getting professional musicians in. | 03:58 |
| BHSPitLappy | I have to wait for my friend to get off work, actually | 03:58 |
| troy_s | it will serve well for brainstorming purposes at the very least, and who knows what it will trigger. | 03:58 |
| BHSPitLappy | need to ask him for permission. | 03:58 |
| troy_s | put it on the wiki | 03:58 |
| BHSPitLappy | need to ask him for permission. | 03:59 |
| troy_s | indeed. | 03:59 |
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| BHSPitLappy | since it's inspired off of something he's written | 03:59 |
| BHSPitLappy | ah, you scared huwshimi away. | 04:00 |
| BHSPitLappy | anybody home?? | 05:07 |
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| BHSPitLappy | hi, huwshimi | 05:29 |
| huwshimi | hey | 05:29 |
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| troy_s | wb huwshimi | 06:23 |
| huwshimi | hey troy_s | 06:24 |
| troy_s | pyrotica is developing a pretty damn good gdm tutorial in incoming | 06:24 |
| troy_s | it is really coming along nicely. | 06:24 |
| huwshimi | troy_s: I just made a gloss version of my splash screen as per request. I will upload a screenshot later. | 06:25 |
| troy_s | do you have any metacity / gtk experience huwshimi? | 06:25 |
| troy_s | probably a good idea. sabdfl wanted to keep to some element of gloss. i underplayed it quite massively based on the overplaying from earlier in the cycle. | 06:26 |
| huwshimi | yeah a little metacity. Made a couple of themes a while back. Haven't ventured into gtk | 06:26 |
| troy_s | hrm... | 06:26 |
| troy_s | the metacity for the default ubuntu look uses the rgb values from the gtkrc | 06:26 |
| troy_s | but it is still a bit of a complicated nut to crack. | 06:27 |
| huwshimi | ok | 06:27 |
| troy_s | it would be nice to palettize the metacity/gtk to the resulting | 06:27 |
| troy_s | chosen direction in usplash/lsplash/gdm/wall | 06:28 |
| troy_s | so if you could possibly experiment a little, it would be appreciated. | 06:28 |
| huwshimi | Ok. Is it the same metacity/gtk themes as dapper (with the modified colours)? | 06:29 |
| troy_s | well thus far | 06:29 |
| troy_s | nothing regarding that has changed | 06:29 |
| troy_s | and again, any changes we wish to implement will require mark's approval | 06:29 |
| troy_s | that said, i would think that once he decides on the set | 06:30 |
| troy_s | modifying the window border to match the palette probably would happen easily. | 06:30 |
| huwshimi | yeah | 06:30 |
| troy_s | what i am hoping to do is bump the palette information up to speed | 06:32 |
| troy_s | once we get through this checkpoint | 06:32 |
| troy_s | so that the offical palette reflects the current state of colour in ubuntu | 06:32 |
| huwshimi | yeah. yeah. | 06:33 |
| huwshimi | Were you saying that I should take the "ubuntu" off my wallpaper? | 06:35 |
| troy_s | huwshimi -- did you get that update to the wiki pages i made via the launchpad membership? | 06:36 |
| troy_s | mark has been quite clear regarding branding now (thankfully, as we really had _no_ clue at the onset of the cycle) | 06:37 |
| huwshimi | yep. sry I haven't read it all. I'll have a look | 06:37 |
| troy_s | three of the four specs (usplash/lsplash/gdm) all have branding. | 06:37 |
| troy_s | wall should probably not. | 06:37 |
| huwshimi | yeah ok. | 06:37 |
| troy_s | again, i am pretty sure that you could break this rule, but that is as per his request | 06:37 |
| troy_s | he also recently commented on the branding from linuxexpo | 06:38 |
| huwshimi | it's an easy change | 06:38 |
| troy_s | again, it isn't my choice... that's marks. | 06:39 |
| huwshimi | Ok cool | 06:40 |
| BHSPitLappy | is anyone alive here | 07:31 |
| huwshimi | Yo. | 07:31 |
| BHSPitLappy | what's up? | 07:32 |
| BHSPitLappy | want to be first to comment on a login/logout sound I just uploaded to the wiki | 07:32 |
| huwshimi | n/much. You? | 07:32 |
| huwshimi | ok. | 07:32 |
| huwshimi | Link? | 07:33 |
| BHSPitLappy | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSounds#head-1e3e5557274b50738b38a7d1a41df69b44b9ff53 | 07:33 |
| huwshimi | PolySounds? | 07:35 |
| huwshimi | is that the one I should download? | 07:35 |
| BHSPitLappy | yep | 07:36 |
| huwshimi | Hey they are pretty good. I like the length of them. | 07:42 |
| BHSPitLappy | thanks, I was afraid they were too long | 07:43 |
| huwshimi | nah. particularly the logout on is a nice length | 07:44 |
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| huwshimi | troy_s: Are you around? | 08:01 |
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| msikma | http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/radial-light_softlight.gif | 11:20 |
| msikma | (Perhaps something for makers of a new usplash to fool around with.) | 11:21 |
| BHSPitLappy | hmm | 11:41 |
| BHSPitLappy | ooh, that's a little cooler than the one from before. | 11:42 |
| msikma | There are some variations in that directory | 12:03 |
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| BHSPitLappy | msikma, do you know where I could find inkspace source to a glossy CoF logo? | 12:16 |
| BHSPitLappy | err | 12:16 |
| BHSPitLappy | inkscape *** | 12:16 |
| BHSPitLappy | type-lexia :S | 12:16 |
| msikma | Hmmm | 12:17 |
| msikma | I'm not sure, I think that some were posted at the propose phase. | 12:17 |
| msikma | I just made that thing separately in raster. | 12:18 |
| msikma | I could upload a really large version if you like. | 12:18 |
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| troy_s | BHSPitLappy wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official | 02:20 |
| troy_s | msikma nice. | 02:21 |
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| msikma | troy_s: some tips for that radial light animation? You had ideas on where to take it. | 02:21 |
| troy_s | i think it is a great step in the right direction | 02:22 |
| troy_s | my only thought would be that you might need the light to orbit more along the trajectory of the logo in order to | 02:22 |
| troy_s | work at a smaller res for something say -- like a waiting mouse cursor. | 02:22 |
| troy_s | its pretty slick though | 02:23 |
| troy_s | also, and i know how you feel about this, but could you offer one up with the curve from the folder / similar to who_'s work jmak? | 02:23 |
| troy_s | i quite like it. hopefully we get the 256 colour extensions into usplash. | 02:24 |
| sladen | troy_s: the mouse cursor... that's is an idea and might give people the idea that their machine is "responsive" and " doing somethign" | 02:26 |
| msikma | I'd prefer to have a spotlight aimed at the logo that lights up the background, like this: http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/base.png - but that's not doable with 256 colors, unfortunately. | 02:27 |
| msikma | That also shows off the shadow nicely. | 02:27 |
| troy_s | sladen yes, and i feel it is a subtle twist towards a more stylized and professional branding of the cursors. | 02:33 |
| troy_s | hold on msikma let me look | 02:33 |
| troy_s | i think the motion is quite interesting in your sample. could you perhaps offer one with 1) smaller light source (say by about 20-30%) | 02:34 |
| troy_s | and perhaps a little more orbital -- slower -- more melodic | 02:34 |
| msikma | I'd prefer to not ease the motion in any way in this sample as it's a looping movement, but I could increase the resolution. | 02:36 |
| msikma | E.g. more frames | 02:36 |
| troy_s | is it difficult to make the light source smaller? | 02:37 |
| troy_s | i assume it is an alpha channel mask, no? | 02:37 |
| msikma | It's an overlay set as clipping mask to the original logo layer and blended as "soft light" | 02:38 |
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| troy_s | ok i must jet out to work msikma | 02:40 |
| msikma | See you later | 02:40 |
| troy_s | so send me an email okie? | 02:40 |
| msikma | Okay | 02:40 |
| troy_s | great stuff | 02:41 |
| troy_s | also, try a very small version to see how it translates (just came to me) like 128 pix by 128 | 02:41 |
| msikma | I will likely need to remake the bevel for the occasion since it scales differently. | 02:41 |
| troy_s | if we intend on scaling the technique, to maintin consistency, it should at least have the basic elements present at that size. (speed, orbit area, size of light, etc) | 02:41 |
| msikma | Smaller sizes probably need a relatively larger bevel. | 02:41 |
| troy_s | indeed, but the 'essence' of it would be nice to keep similar | 02:42 |
| troy_s | if you follow me. | 02:42 |
| troy_s | so just take a peep at the smaller size and see if there is anything 'glaring' that would need adjusting | 02:42 |
| troy_s | ok out... or else i'll be late ;) | 02:42 |
| msikma | yeah. I wonder if it'll work out. | 02:42 |
| msikma | later | 02:42 |
| sladen | troy_s: yes, the secret is dithereing | 02:55 |
| sladen | troy_s: you can still see the banding on that image. But with dithering, you can get an apparent gradient smoother than 256 steps | 02:56 |
| sladen | troy_s: also you don't want the 'shadow' to be a perfect circle, it should vary in an apparently random way, like plasma | 02:56 |
| sladen | troy_s: I do like it though! | 02:56 |
| msikma | hee hee. My Wikipedia talk page got vandalized by someone who didn't like me criticizing his unconstructive edits. | 02:59 |
| msikma | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMsikma&diff=73937538&oldid=73937367 | 02:59 |
| msikma | http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/radial-light_linearlight60_cursor.gif <-- waiting cursor | 03:42 |
| msikma | http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/radial-light_softlight_cursor.gif <-- another one | 03:42 |
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| cbx33 | hi everyone | 03:56 |
| msikma | hi there | 03:57 |
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| BHSPitLappy | hi | 11:08 |
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