=== exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === mode/#ubuntu-artwork [+o troy_s] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:troy_s] : Welcome! =-=-= Most current news and items https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/ =-=-= Start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork =-=-= Tasks at http://www.launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+specs =-=-= IRC Logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ =-=-= === mode/#ubuntu-artwork [-o troy_s] by troy_s === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:54] hello huwshimi [01:54] thanks for your contribution === lapo_ [n=lapo@host243-203.pool876.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:10] troy_s: np [02:23] troy_s: I will try to gloss up the splash screen I followed the guide as to matt background/gloss foreground. But the splash still needs some work [02:30] hi all [03:33] huwshimi it's too bad you weren't around at the start of the cycle [03:34] but you should be able to pick up rather quickly -- as was one of the goals this cycle. [03:34] troy_s: How so? [03:34] How so what sorry? [03:34] troy_s: Me not being around at the start of the cycle. [03:35] well it would have given much time to incorporate the motif into other designs [03:40] troy_s: Has the default art been [03:40] ... chosen yet? [03:40] not yet. [03:40] just a gradual refinement of direction [03:40] ok [03:41] unfortunately, we had to start the cycle with a very broad design base and really crunch it down as we went along [03:41] next cycle we should be able to start with a more refined design specification [03:41] sept 7th is the final lock date for all artwork -- then it is merely a matter of polishing [03:42] i believe mark is getting shipped a tarball shortly based on frank's selections [03:42] and he will ultimately decide. [03:42] or throw it all out :) [03:42] note that he has been quite clear regarding branding of the wallpaper... although you might get away with a minor brand [03:43] if you read the specifications, you can see where and how branding should be incorporated. [03:43] in actuality, there was an update to it, and I should probably update the wiki accordingly based on mark's comments from linuxworld. [03:43] yeah. My designs can be ripped to shreds if they want to be used [03:48] hey [03:49] Hi [03:49] troy_s, sept 7th.. applies to sound too? [03:49] i would suspect so, as the breakdown listed on the plan page corresponds to the developer breakdown [03:49] upon which it was based in paris [03:49] hmm [03:49] then it's probably too late to submit anything new? [03:52] i wouldn't count it out [03:52] the only thing i would say is that don't be offended if it doesn't get looked at in time [03:53] mark is extremely busy, and ubuntu is different from the other 'buntus in that _everything_ that enters ubuntu art-wise _must_ pass through him. [03:53] creative wise [03:53] etc. [03:53] that means that ultimately he wields the axe [03:54] that said, we would love to see the sound department develop further [03:54] i know _i_ certainly would. [03:54] well, I would be submitting a prototype [03:54] not even a finished, cleaned up etc [03:55] although it's not like with graphical art... audio is relatively easier to transform from raw recordings into a finished product [03:55] they are quite similar actually. [03:55] troy_s: I would like to be involved with the artwork process. I work as a graphic and web designer and audio engineer. I have a Launchpad account etc. what else do I need to do? [03:55] but if it is in a production worthy state, i wouldn't hold back. [03:56] troy_s, I mean, say, from a concept sketch, to a nicely made vector image [03:56] huwshimi there is plenty to be done, and we need more folks like you. [03:56] BHSPitLappy are you familiar with how motion pictures are edited and scored? [03:56] troy_s, let's just say I'm 17. [03:56] BHSPitLappy that's ok. [03:57] and I understand what you're getting at, too... [03:57] basically, you provide a 'temp' track that meets the thematics of the piece [03:57] in our case, the prototype is a quick recording of my keyboard... and the finished product would be... a quick recording of my keyboard, with some editing :P [03:57] and then write concurrently with it. [03:57] laf. [03:57] well i certainly say get it on the wiki to start... [03:58] instead if going drastically from a temp track, to an arranger/composer, and getting professional musicians in. [03:58] I have to wait for my friend to get off work, actually [03:58] it will serve well for brainstorming purposes at the very least, and who knows what it will trigger. [03:58] need to ask him for permission. [03:58] put it on the wiki [03:59] need to ask him for permission. [03:59] indeed. === troy_s brb bathroom. [03:59] since it's inspired off of something he's written [04:00] ah, you scared huwshimi away. [05:07] anybody home?? === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:29] hi, huwshimi [05:29] hey === PseudoPlacebo [n=Placebo@user-12lcr8r.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:23] wb huwshimi [06:24] hey troy_s [06:24] pyrotica is developing a pretty damn good gdm tutorial in incoming [06:24] it is really coming along nicely. [06:25] troy_s: I just made a gloss version of my splash screen as per request. I will upload a screenshot later. [06:25] do you have any metacity / gtk experience huwshimi? [06:26] probably a good idea. sabdfl wanted to keep to some element of gloss. i underplayed it quite massively based on the overplaying from earlier in the cycle. [06:26] yeah a little metacity. Made a couple of themes a while back. Haven't ventured into gtk [06:26] hrm... [06:26] the metacity for the default ubuntu look uses the rgb values from the gtkrc [06:27] but it is still a bit of a complicated nut to crack. [06:27] ok [06:27] it would be nice to palettize the metacity/gtk to the resulting [06:28] chosen direction in usplash/lsplash/gdm/wall [06:28] so if you could possibly experiment a little, it would be appreciated. [06:29] Ok. Is it the same metacity/gtk themes as dapper (with the modified colours)? [06:29] well thus far [06:29] nothing regarding that has changed [06:29] and again, any changes we wish to implement will require mark's approval [06:30] that said, i would think that once he decides on the set [06:30] modifying the window border to match the palette probably would happen easily. [06:30] yeah [06:32] what i am hoping to do is bump the palette information up to speed [06:32] once we get through this checkpoint [06:32] so that the offical palette reflects the current state of colour in ubuntu [06:33] yeah. yeah. [06:35] Were you saying that I should take the "ubuntu" off my wallpaper? [06:36] huwshimi -- did you get that update to the wiki pages i made via the launchpad membership? [06:37] mark has been quite clear regarding branding now (thankfully, as we really had _no_ clue at the onset of the cycle) [06:37] yep. sry I haven't read it all. I'll have a look [06:37] three of the four specs (usplash/lsplash/gdm) all have branding. [06:37] wall should probably not. [06:37] yeah ok. [06:37] again, i am pretty sure that you could break this rule, but that is as per his request [06:38] he also recently commented on the branding from linuxexpo [06:38] it's an easy change [06:39] again, it isn't my choice... that's marks. [06:40] Ok cool [07:31] is anyone alive here [07:31] Yo. [07:32] what's up? [07:32] want to be first to comment on a login/logout sound I just uploaded to the wiki [07:32] n/much. You? [07:32] ok. [07:33] Link? [07:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuSounds#head-1e3e5557274b50738b38a7d1a41df69b44b9ff53 [07:35] PolySounds? [07:35] is that the one I should download? [07:36] yep [07:42] Hey they are pretty good. I like the length of them. [07:43] thanks, I was afraid they were too long [07:44] nah. particularly the logout on is a nice length === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:01] troy_s: Are you around? === BHSPitLappy yawns === AndyFitz [i=AndyFitz@nat/redhat/x-0627ae991ec88fe1] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === AndyFitz [i=AndyFitz@nat/redhat/x-1c913403d87e0f65] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:20] http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/radial-light_softlight.gif [11:21] (Perhaps something for makers of a new usplash to fool around with.) [11:41] hmm [11:42] ooh, that's a little cooler than the one from before. [12:03] There are some variations in that directory === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:16] msikma, do you know where I could find inkspace source to a glossy CoF logo? [12:16] err [12:16] inkscape *** [12:16] type-lexia :S [12:17] Hmmm [12:17] I'm not sure, I think that some were posted at the propose phase. [12:18] I just made that thing separately in raster. [12:18] I could upload a really large version if you like. === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495575A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:20] BHSPitLappy wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official [02:21] msikma nice. === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:21] troy_s: some tips for that radial light animation? You had ideas on where to take it. [02:22] i think it is a great step in the right direction [02:22] my only thought would be that you might need the light to orbit more along the trajectory of the logo in order to [02:22] work at a smaller res for something say -- like a waiting mouse cursor. [02:23] its pretty slick though [02:23] also, and i know how you feel about this, but could you offer one up with the curve from the folder / similar to who_'s work jmak? [02:24] i quite like it. hopefully we get the 256 colour extensions into usplash. [02:26] troy_s: the mouse cursor... that's is an idea and might give people the idea that their machine is "responsive" and " doing somethign" [02:27] I'd prefer to have a spotlight aimed at the logo that lights up the background, like this: http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/base.png - but that's not doable with 256 colors, unfortunately. [02:27] That also shows off the shadow nicely. [02:33] sladen yes, and i feel it is a subtle twist towards a more stylized and professional branding of the cursors. [02:33] hold on msikma let me look [02:34] i think the motion is quite interesting in your sample. could you perhaps offer one with 1) smaller light source (say by about 20-30%) [02:34] and perhaps a little more orbital -- slower -- more melodic [02:36] I'd prefer to not ease the motion in any way in this sample as it's a looping movement, but I could increase the resolution. [02:36] E.g. more frames [02:37] is it difficult to make the light source smaller? [02:37] i assume it is an alpha channel mask, no? [02:38] It's an overlay set as clipping mask to the original logo layer and blended as "soft light" === msikma first tries a different style of bevel/glossy [02:40] ok i must jet out to work msikma [02:40] See you later [02:40] so send me an email okie? [02:40] Okay [02:41] great stuff [02:41] also, try a very small version to see how it translates (just came to me) like 128 pix by 128 [02:41] I will likely need to remake the bevel for the occasion since it scales differently. [02:41] if we intend on scaling the technique, to maintin consistency, it should at least have the basic elements present at that size. (speed, orbit area, size of light, etc) [02:41] Smaller sizes probably need a relatively larger bevel. [02:42] indeed, but the 'essence' of it would be nice to keep similar [02:42] if you follow me. [02:42] so just take a peep at the smaller size and see if there is anything 'glaring' that would need adjusting [02:42] ok out... or else i'll be late ;) [02:42] yeah. I wonder if it'll work out. [02:42] later [02:55] troy_s: yes, the secret is dithereing [02:56] troy_s: you can still see the banding on that image. But with dithering, you can get an apparent gradient smoother than 256 steps [02:56] troy_s: also you don't want the 'shadow' to be a perfect circle, it should vary in an apparently random way, like plasma [02:56] troy_s: I do like it though! [02:59] hee hee. My Wikipedia talk page got vandalized by someone who didn't like me criticizing his unconstructive edits. [02:59] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMsikma&diff=73937538&oldid=73937367 [03:42] http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/radial-light_linearlight60_cursor.gif <-- waiting cursor [03:42] http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/radial-light_softlight_cursor.gif <-- another one === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:56] hi everyone [03:57] hi there === PingunZ [n=kristof@128.184-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-035-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii__ [n=kwwii@p5495500E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@128.184-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-035-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ [n=kristof@128.184-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo_ [n=lapo@host243-203.pool876.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:08] hi === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-artwork