=== pounk_ like that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kubuntu01-arbiter.png [12:11] http://bootsplash.org/edgyWallpaper.tar.gz [12:12] 5a in that === Hobbsee wonders if kwwii has seen the artwork responses. [12:12] nothing that dark [12:12] Hobbsee: which ones? [12:12] I think so [12:12] kwwii: the ones at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas [12:12] seems that people either love it or hate it [12:12] guess that's the curse of doing artwork [12:13] Riddell, ping , it rejected amarok [12:13] Rejected: [12:13] Unable to find amarok_1.4.3.orig.tar.gz in the distribution. [12:13] no orig.tar.gz upload [12:14] I think that the blue-purple version can make everyone happy [12:14] and yeah, sometimes it is hard [12:14] there is always someone who hates what you did, no matter what [12:14] true [12:15] yea a blue purple version and revert the konqui purple [12:15] back to blue [12:15] i would say imho [12:15] even though i made the change i dont like it seeing it in action [12:15] wow the CC is getting of to a SLOW start [12:17] imbrandon: we still need to work on the about page stuff though...it is way too purple (as is amarok) [12:17] yea [12:17] we can do that after the meeting if you have time [12:17] we can change it a bit, I think [12:17] which meeting? [12:18] CC meeting thats supose to be happening now but hasent started yet [12:18] ach du scheisse [12:18] i'm there to cheer on a new member but its starting slow [12:19] pounk_: which icons are used in your screenshot? [12:19] kwwii: cursing in german, now? :P [12:20] me hate meeting...meeting bad [12:20] you didnt have to be there === Hobbsee should really do some work. [12:20] hehe, good point [12:21] whew...I jump when someone says meeting [12:21] funny shit [12:22] kwwii: don't worry, there's two on Thursday if you want them :) [12:22] hah [12:22] point [12:24] Riddell: yeah, I just noticed that..I can meet to my hearts content [12:24] working from home + meeting = beer === Hobbsee doesnt want the meeting to take two hours tomorrow [12:24] kwwii: heh. [12:25] [17:24] +working from home + meeting = beer << bash.org worthy ;) [12:25] ;-) [12:26] I really wish things would be more certain with the usplas [12:27] usplash [12:27] we are really close on everything else, except that [12:36] Riddell: we need to talk about changing the coordinates of the last icon in the ksplash...I am going to move the logo out of the kdm and ksplash "windows" so we can make them a bit wider [12:36] kwwii: so no kubuntu logo at all? [12:38] Riddell: the same logo as now, only outside the box (I'll reduce the height of the box) [12:38] that was another thing that mark said [12:39] and after I made the first changes he asked me "where did you get this idea from?" (I did not tell him it was his idea) [12:39] kwwii: as far as I remember that last icon is done as half way across the screen then a fixed number of pixels down from the centre, so it won't be hard to change that number [12:39] so now, we will move on in that direction and he will think I am a genius!!!! :-) [12:40] kwwii: you're an artist, people will only realise you're a genius once you're dead [12:40] damn the pain of ingorance [12:41] in a hundred (or two) years they will write about me! [12:42] your great grandchildren will make a fortune from trademarking your (GPG) signature and selling the rights === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-253-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:42] anyway...I think mark is right, but I was waiting for a general response to things (which seems good) to move forward [12:43] they will inherit my nick [12:43] kwwii_iii [12:43] hahahaa [12:43] etc. [12:43] imbrandon: poke @ the latest amarok bug report [12:44] testers needed for deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143/ dapper main [12:46] Riddell, wow you did the ppc ones? you rock [12:46] hehe, I kinda have to step up, eh? [12:47] I can simply update, or? [12:48] kwwii, should be able to [12:48] rebooting that machine, once second [12:48] Riddell, you dident add any of the needed libs to the pool ? [12:48] imbrandon: seen https://launchpad.net/bugs/59007 ? [12:48] Malone bug 59007 in amarok "Install MP3 support not working in Ubuntu" [Untriaged,Confirmed] [12:48] Hobbsee, yea [12:48] imbrandon: no, I'll tell people to use dapper-backports [12:49] yeah, I noticed that one too [12:49] imbrandon: cool [12:49] Riddell, ahh ok , well backports is still broke atm [12:49] but sound did not work anyway [12:49] imbrandon: figured you might like to fix that one [12:49] imbrandon: broken in which way? [12:50] Riddell, e.g no new backports can be put in past 1.4.2-0ubuntu2 untill souyz suppoorts it [12:50] should be fixed soon [12:50] hold on lemme find rthe bug [12:50] imbrandon: yeah, that's why we're doing amarok by hand, but -backports is good for libvisual [12:50] Riddell, https://launchpad.net/bugs/58144 [12:50] Malone bug 58144 in soyuz "Backport is rejected if an older backport is already there" [Critical,In progress] [12:50] ahh ok [12:51] so they will need both -backports and that [12:51] yes [12:51] ok i dident get that at first [12:51] libvisual realy needs to depend on libvisual-plugins too , kinda pointless without them [12:52] but i'll tackle that later === imbrandon is listening to "Get The Party Started (Sweet Dreams Remix)" by p!nk [Amarok] [12:56] oh bleh. kopete seems to not be shipping with translations. i thought someone fixed that. [12:58] perhaps it's not in [12:58] [ Jonathan Riddell ] [12:58] * Add kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff to exclude unnecessary strings in .po file [12:58] that should be .pot file [12:58] Hobbsee: what's the problem? that the .debs don't have .mo files? [12:59] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/bugs/58579 [12:59] Malone bug 58579 in kopete "no kopete translations in edgy" [Untriaged,Confirmed] [12:59] oh. we're missing all the translation files, or something === Hobbsee notes that it would be bad form to pass out in the library. [01:01] I'm pretty sure kopete builds a .pot, I think we might need to poke rosetta dudes to start using that and not exprect one from kdenetwork [01:01] right === Hobbsee knows close to nil about such things [01:03] can someone remind me to mail my stat dec when i get back please? [01:03] if i forget it, i'll be in great trouble. [01:03] what's a stat dev? [01:03] dec [01:03] Riddell: statutory declaration [01:03] says i wasnt driving the car when they said i was. === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Hobbsee post your stat dec | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel! | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/hwdb/ | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/bzr/powermanager/ | TODO: Gamin fixes at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Merges at: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next Meeting: 7 September, 2100 UTC [01:04] haha, thanks :D === Hobbsee hugs Riddell [01:04] ;) [01:04] Riddell: the car wasnt drivable. the automatic transmission failed the day before. only way it was going anywhere was on a tow truck. so it certainly wasnt me driving it! [01:04] Riddell, did you see amarok got rejected for no orig.tar.gz [01:06] imbrandon: bah [01:06] heh [01:13] ok, time to give these buildds a workout [01:14] hehe [01:14] all of kde ? [01:14] yep === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:14] ;) === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] i think after that hits the archives i'll do a fresh knot install on voyager [01:15] ( it will make hobbsee unhappy ) but it will be good for testing ) [01:15] done [01:15] man I love ADSL2 [01:15] heh [01:16] hopefully that backport bug is fixed soonish, he said it was fixed just not on the production LP yet [01:16] yeah, all launchpad code needs someone else to review it [01:16] i duuno when they publish the lp staging to production [01:18] it works [01:18] kwwii: what's that? [01:18] amarok [01:18] the update fixed my amarok [01:20] kwwii: amarok 1.4.3? [01:20] Riddell: yepp (I even have the funky engage menu) [01:20] kwwii: excellent news [01:21] Help--> about amarok says 1.4.3 [01:21] rockin [01:25] Riddell: ping [01:25] hi ryanakca [01:26] Riddell: QComicBook can be uploaded to the repos... "Yes, the splashscreen/about image was created exclusively for QComicBook by a friend of mine (he is a graphican) and it is GPL'ed." reply to that e-mail I sent [01:27] ryanakca: excellent news [01:27] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3004 [01:27] lots of excellent news tonight :) [01:27] yes, it is :) [01:28] time for sleep now [01:28] ryanakca: it still needs one more person to review and advocate it [01:28] see you all tomorrow [01:28] night kwwii [01:28] night Riddell [01:28] yes, except... (forget if it was you or someone else), but realistiK CANNOT be uploaded to archives/repos === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495500E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [01:29] see yah kwwiii [01:29] ryanakca: why not? [01:29] that sweet icon set... === pounk_ is now known as PounK [01:29] because Everaldo has not given the author of the new icon set permission to use them. [01:30] and it's on kde-look... I sent the creator an e-mail... I can forward it to you... he says to wait before uploading [01:30] forward the reply that is... [01:31] does everaldo need to give him permission if they are gpl ? === imbrandon is begining to hate everaldo [01:32] oooh... good point... if I understand GPL properly... no [01:32] ryanakca: is realistiK based on crystal? [01:33] Riddell: ermm.. not sure [01:33] ryanakca: what's the issue with everaldo? [01:33] http://pastebin.ca/161950 is the reply I received... I'll check on kde-look [01:34] did everaldo make realistiK ? [01:34] no, but his iconset is in it [01:36] his as in which one? forgive me start over here [01:36] i must have missed something [01:36] how is everaldo playing into this [01:36] hmm [01:36] I'm confused as well [01:36] ok we have realistiK [01:36] an icon set, what does evealdo have to do with it ? [01:37] is it based on one of his works? if so what one ? e.g. crystal is gpl [01:37] so no "permission" needed [01:37] imbrandon: well... [01:38] the crystal icons in KDE are LGPL, the crystal icons from everaldo.com are not licenced at all [01:38] realistiK is based on everaldo's work (crystal)... which is LGPL... is realistiK GPL (I think so) [01:38] so it depends if he got the icons from KDE or from everaldo.com [01:38] Riddell, true [01:39] hmm... [01:39] this is messed up... I'll send him an e-mail asking that [01:40] it also looks like he took the icons off kde-look [01:40] in which case they're not LGPKL [01:40] LGPL [01:40] which would be copyright infringement? [01:41] right, as with alot of things on kde-look , you have to be carefull [01:41] unless yo have permission [01:41] The guy took his icons off his kde-look [01:43] bummer [01:44] Riddell, can NEW packages get put in after the 7th ? [01:44] ( universe ) [01:45] I don't know [01:45] and whats up with ipodslave hehe pitti still hasent looked at it [01:45] lol [01:45] imbrandon: pitti's been on holiday [01:45] ahhh ok [01:45] he's still processing his security backlog [01:45] ah ok i dident know he was gona for a bit [01:45] makes sense [01:46] imbrandon: I believe univerversefreeze is on the 28th, but REVU day is the 8th [01:47] yes... according to that post on the fride [01:47] yea but that might not be before feature freeze ;) [01:49] and afaik motu's dont have to put new packages on REVU [01:49] but i could be wrong [01:49] it's good practice [01:49] yea [01:50] its the a windeco is all, i dont even want it in main, just universe ;) [01:50] ( its my royale kwin-deco ) [01:50] hehe [01:51] although it woul be cool to have it installed by default as a choice ( not the default theme obviously ) [01:51] but anyhow /me finds soemthing productive to do ...... [01:52] ryanakca, whats the link to your comicbook thing, i'll review it, did riddell advocate it too? if so i'll upload if its all good [01:52] imbrandon: I'm looking at it now [01:52] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3004 [01:52] ahh ok [01:52] so if you look at it we can get it uploaded [01:53] :D [01:53] kk [01:53] yea a'll dget it now [01:53] i'll [01:54] dget? [01:55] you dget the dsc file and it pulls the rest [01:55] works with any repo/directory [01:55] clever [01:55] e.g dget http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/qcomicbook-0609011555/qcomicbook_0.3.2-0ubuntu1.dsc [01:55] ;) [01:57] nice [01:57] ryanakca: failed install: target `/root/qcomicbook/qcomicbook-0.3.2/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/applications/' is not a directory: No such file or directory === ryanakca wishes he had known about that when his sources directory had accidentaly gotten deleted. [01:58] yup i get the same error [01:58] Riddell: erm... are you running it as root (like it /root/ or is it a ppackageing error?) [01:59] ryanakca: I am yes (in a chroot) [01:59] hmmm... *kicks his ppbuilder* [01:59] install -D --mode=0644 /home/brandon/files/devel/qcomicbook/qcomicbook-0.3.2/fedora/qcomicbook.desktop \ [01:59] /home/brandon/files/devel/qcomicbook/qcomicbook-0.3.2/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/applications/ [01:59] install: target `/home/brandon/files/devel/qcomicbook/qcomicbook-0.3.2/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/applications/' is not a directory: No such file or directory [02:00] I'll look at it... add "/usr/share/applications/" to debian/dirs? [02:00] ryanakca: yep, or mkdir -p $(CURDIR)/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/applications/ above the install line [02:01] ryanakca: you've moved the help directory, can the application still find those files? [02:02] ooh... good point [02:02] mv -fr /root/qcomicbook/qcomicbook-0.3.2/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/qcomicbook/help/ \ [02:03] I'll look at that too [02:03] /root/qcomicbook/qcomicbook-0.3.2/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/doc/qcomicbook/ [02:03] mv: invalid option -- r [02:03] another fail? [02:03] yes... that was because of the -r [02:03] I was probably thinking of cp instead of mv [02:04] can't mv -fr something [02:04] hehe, recursive move... :) === jdong wonders what a non-recursive move would be..... === jdong looks up reiser4 [02:05] btw, What would be a "valid reason" for +u ... the ones I had yesterday didn't go threw... I get another try tonight :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] ryanakca: who did you ask? [02:07] nalioth [02:08] hmm... "grep -rin usr/share/qcomicbook/help/ *" didn't find anything in the sources... [02:08] one reason could be that it's just plain annoying and is the first real reason I've seen to move ubuntu from freenode to oftc [02:09] void ComicMainWindow::showHelp() [02:09] { [02:09] const QString helpdir = HelpBrowser::getLocaleHelpDir(DATADIR "/help"); [02:10] change DATADIR to /usr/share/qcomicbook/doc [02:11] plain annoying? [02:12] first real reason to move to oftc? meaning oftc doesn't have a chan limit? [02:12] Riddell: kk... wheres that? [02:12] nevermind, I'll grep it :) [02:13] ryanakca: comicmain.cpp [02:14] yep, patching it :) [02:14] ryanakca, i dunno, i just told them i need all my ubuntu chans and upstream chans like amarok / konversation , but let me give you one hint and it dont go past here ....... [02:14] ( wrt +u ) [02:15] i got shot down by naloith 2 times before i finaly went to rob , then it was a 5 second deal ;) [02:15] ( wrt +u )? [02:15] with regards to [02:15] of course with rob we can just tell him to give us +u or we won't review his packages :) [02:15] hehe === ryanakca will try rob this time... the conversation last night was pretty tough... I was being told to "Think." "Think harder." "Do you have any REAL reasons." etc [02:16] lol [02:16] heh [02:17] I don't have anything against nalioth, and I do tend to think highly of him (given the fact he's taken over classoom while I'm on vacation), but he can be difficult... [02:18] eeeeevening [02:18] heya mornfall [02:18] hey mornfall [02:18] umm [02:18] make that early morning [02:18] hehe === mornfall = stoned [02:18] and still awake ? [02:18] heh [02:18] just got home [02:18] imbrandon: Riddell: I'll have a bash at fixing this source... I'll uploaded withing the hour (or next 15 minutes, if I can get cdbs-edit-patch to work) [02:19] ryanakca, no worries i'lll be on for a while ( i just woke up about 2 hours ago ) [02:19] just poke me whenever [02:19] lol, I'm going to bed soon... after a long first day back to school [02:19] ryanakca: I need to go to bed, but I'm happy for imbrandon to upload it if those issues are fixed [02:20] kk sounds good === mornfall notes that absinthe and weed don't mix too well [02:20] Riddell: kk, aren't you in the UK or something? [02:20] goodnight Riddell [02:20] see yah [02:20] ryanakca: I'm in Scotland yes [02:20] nice :) === ryanakca wants to visit scotland... next year... World Pipeband Championships, he we come :) [02:20] mornfall, absinthe ? [02:20] G'night :) [02:21] absinthe, yeh [02:21] again... wondering when i learn [02:21] ryanakca, (or next 15 minutes, if I can get cdbs-edit-patch to work) why not use siplepatchsys ? [02:21] simple* [02:21] I got it running [02:22] heh ok [02:22] I was because of an error I made when correcting an error in debian/rules [02:24] hmm... where would DATADIR be set I wonder [02:25] ryanakca: just change that line to a hard coded path [02:26] Riddell: so.. " const QString helpdir = HelpBrowser::getLocaleHelpDir("/usr/share/doc/qcomicbook/help/"); " ? [02:27] yep [02:27] kk, ty === ryanakca really needs to learn C++ [02:27] imbrandon: remind me, have you looked at ktorrent 2.0.2? [02:27] except reading e-books is a pain.. I find I can't concentrate unless it's ink and paper... [02:27] and I'm getting side-tracked [02:28] Riddell, yea but there wasent a changelog so the uvf dident get approved yet [02:28] ( jdong filed it ) [02:28] i'll add a changelog to the entry if he hasent and re-ask [02:28] and have it ready for when you wake [02:30] Riddell, bug 58139 [02:30] Malone bug 58139 in ktorrent "UVF exception request ktorrent 2.0.1 -> 2.0.2" [Low,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58139 [02:30] i'll email mdz and kamoin right now [02:31] ermm... memory blank... mv $(CURDIR)/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/qcomicbook/help/ $(CURDIR)/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/doc/qcomicbook/help/ would move help/ to /usr/share/doc/qcomicbook/help/ and not/usr/share/doc/qcomicbook/help/help/ right? === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-253-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] mv $(CURDIR)/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/qcomicbook/help/ $(CURDIR)/debian/qcomicbook/usr/share/doc/qcomicbook/ === Riddell snoozes [02:33] uvf mail sent, i'll prep the debdiff for you by morning [02:34] gnight Riddell, sleep well [02:44] imbrandon: are you going to upload those top-right-appname.pngs? === imbrandon [n=imbrando@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:48] imbrandon: did you get that last message? [02:57] about ? no === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:02] do we have a kde stuff like tomboy? [03:02] morning all [03:03] Howdy folks [03:03] bddebian: hi [03:04] Hello freeflying === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] dude..we so need kdesklets [03:12] hiya Hobbsee ;) [03:12] hey again all [03:12] hey nixternal :) [03:17] freeflying: knotes or something like that? [03:19] yay knotes :) === Hobbsee likes knotes [03:33] dose kontes like tomboy, or wiki like? === rouzic [n=rouzic@18.Red-88-10-62.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:30] imbrandon: ping? [04:38] sigh [04:38] why must the last two questions of any assignment always be an absolute bitch? [04:38] *doesnt want to do them* [04:39] hehe [04:39] those are the worst [04:40] i need imbrandon to wake up now [04:40] actually..no i don't [04:41] nixternal, yes ? [04:41] *thinks he's around* [04:41] there you go [04:41] ... [04:41] i just said yes? [04:41] haha [04:41] never mind now [04:41] unping [04:41] nixternal, WHAT !?! [04:41] i was working with bip and what not === Jucato [i=Fenyx@124.106.192.135] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon go's back to fiddling with the router [04:41] Hobbsee, ping [04:41] and i couldn't get irssi to connect 2 different networks to the same ip [04:41] Jucato: heya [04:42] Hobbsee is gone, leave a message at the beep, beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep [04:42] lol [04:42] hehe === Hobbsee is doing an assignment. supposedly [04:42] while i put the new router online [04:42] I need help, I'm not sure if it's related to the last update in Edgy... [04:42] "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum support by BIOS" [04:43] Jucato, #ubuntu+1 is for general edgy support, just fyi ;) === imbrandon is afk [04:43] would it be related to the update? [04:43] or just that grub has borked badly. [04:43] :( [04:43] er, wait. did grub bork, or did something else? [04:44] I can't boot into Dapper either... probably GRUB... [04:44] but the GRUB that's installed on hda's MBR is the one from Dapper... [04:44] (I think) [04:44] Grub error 18 [04:44] info grub wrote: [04:44] 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS. This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area. This generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general). [04:44] Try an update for your BIOS and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range). [04:44] ugh === Hobbsee wonders why you didnt install the grub from edgy. [04:45] heh, I'll reinstall it... [04:45] rawr [04:45] ok then... off to the live CD [04:45] Jucato: reinstall edgy's grub. see !grub [04:45] you can do it with the install cd too, you know [04:45] strange that it only happened now [04:45] :D [04:45] !grub > Jucato [04:46] ok then, thanks === Jucato panicked immediately === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:57] [21:55] 21:45:29 Jucato: reinstall edgy's grub. see !grub [04:57] [21:55] 21:45:35 you can do it with the install cd too, you know [04:57] ^^ that wont move /boot [04:57] to the > 1024 limit [04:57] err < 1024 cylender [04:58] anyhow you get my point [04:58] er, point. i'm a little worried as to why he'd be using dapper's grub for edgy. [04:58] or doesnt the upstart stuff change that? [04:59] umm upstart dosent have anything to do with grup [04:59] grub* [05:00] nor does the cyl limit in his bios for that matter [05:00]