[12:10] <Mangix> on windows, it sounds very clearly
[12:10] <Mangix> on Kubuntu, there's a lot of jittering but you can hear the sound
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> Which version of windows ?
[12:10] <Mangix> XP
[12:10] <angasule_> kenan, you can use add/remove programs
[12:10] <kenan> nah
[12:10] <kenan> done that
[12:10] <angasule_> kenan: or adept
[12:10] <angasule_> !adept
[12:10] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:10] <kenan> i want to add
[12:10] <kenan> java
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> Mangix: Have you tried disabling artsd ?
[12:10] <kenan> and also real player
[12:10] <Mangix> h3sp4wn: what's that?
[12:11] <angasule_> !java
[12:11] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:11] <angasule_> !realplayer
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:11] <kenan> thanks i will try
[12:11] <angasule_> :)
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> Mangix: run kcontrol (or system settings) and then go onto sound system - > disable the soundsystem (sound will still work but just not through artsd)
[12:13] <Mangix> h3sp4wn: did that. it still sounds kinda jittery
[12:18] <[GuS] > Au Revoir!
[12:18] <jono> yo
[12:19] <CzarAlex> How can i prevent kdm from starting when i boot my computer? I just want the command line interface.
[12:19] <lupine_85> set your default runlevel to 3 ?
[12:19] <Darkkish> do you have grub?
[12:21] <CzarAlex> lupine_85: What that to me?
[12:21] <lupine_85> CzarAlex: yes
[12:22] <CzarAlex> lupine_85: Im not familiar with runlevels and what they do. How do I set it to 3, and will that effect anything else I run on my box turned server? (apache2, mysql..)
[12:22] <lupine_85> you have 6 runlevels on your machine, which specify different programs to be run, etc
[12:23] <lupine_85> 6 is reboot, 0 is halt, 1 is single0user
[12:23] <lupine_85> 2-5 are configurable
[12:23] <lupine_85> 3 is usually set up as "non-graphical", IMD
[12:23] <lupine_85> IME*
[12:23] <CzarAlex> lupine_85: Ah i see. and how do I set this? (and set it back if I dont like it)
[12:24] <lupine_85> telinit to change the runlevel
[12:24] <altprsona> what is the default setting for the wheelmouse button? why does it open weird links in firefox?
[12:24] <lupine_85> if you find runlevel 3 does the trick, just edit /etc/inittab appropriately
[12:25] <lupine_85> (but carefully!)
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Mangix: What are you using to play sound ?
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> In ubuntu all run levels are graphical (afaik)
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> install sysv-rc-conf and remove kdm from all runlevels except 5 then set the default to 2 would work
[12:26] <lupine_85> the default already is 2 :)
[12:26] <usingkubuntulive> hmm.. looks nice and is fast, but where are all the games??? ;)
[12:26] <CzarAlex> h3sp4wn: Hmm. I want to convert my desktop install to command line only. Is there a more proper way?
[12:26] <jt_> can you not just goto System Settings -> System Services and uncheck "Start during boot" for kdm
[12:27] <h3sp4wn> CzarAlex: What do you mean ? you don't want X at all ?
[12:27] <CzarAlex> h3sp4wn: I don't. Command line is just fine.
[12:28] <jt_> install slackware tbh
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> CzarAlex: sudo aptitude purge kde~i xorg~i (that should get rid of quite alot of stuff)
[12:29] <CzarAlex> My issue is that i have my box all set up the way i like it with apache2 and all that jazz, but i wanna free up some memory, since i dont use X on this "server" anymore, I can do withouit it
[12:29] <angasule_> !grub
[12:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> CzarAlex: The above line would get rid of quite alot of stuff
[12:30] <CzarAlex> h3sp4wn: stuff that would harm apache2 and mysql and stuff?
[12:30] <TheHighChild> CzarAlex: I wouldn't remove the window manager, I would just stop it from starting at boot
[12:31] <CzarAlex> TheHighChild: That would be perfect. How do you recommend I do that?
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> CzarAlex: Nope (maybe the mysql gui would be removed)
[12:31] <angasule_> is there a GUI tool to configure grub? I don't see anything in the system settings
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> angasule_: just sudo grub (the cli grub manager is pretty easy to use) what do you need to do ?
[12:33] <angasule_> h3sp4wn: basically, I want to leave only 'kubuntu' and 'windows' in the menu (and prettygying it, if possible)
[12:34] <Mangix> is there any way to select the output device used for audio?
[12:34] <CzarAlex> TheHighChild: I hope its not that complicated :)
[12:34] <jt_> angasule_: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:35] <jt_> angasule_: eg $ sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:35] <angasule_> jt_: I know how to do it manually, I was just asking for a GUI :)
[12:35] <angasule_> I'm a vim user heh
[12:35] <jt_> dont think there is a kubuntu gui :(
[12:35] <TheHighChild> CzarAlex: You can edit your /etc/inittab to change the runlevel. I'm trying to find an easier way.
[12:35] <CzarAlex> TheHighChild: I appreciate it.
[12:37] <Mangix> is there any way to select the output device used for audio?
[12:38] <angasule_> !audio
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <TheHighChild> CzarAlex: try this 'sudo cp /etc/inittab /etc/inittab.bak' to backup the init tab. Then edit the line that looks like 'id:2:initdefault' change the 2 to 1, save the file and reboot. if that doesn't work, 'sudo cp /etc/inittab.bak /etc/inittab' to restore the file
[12:39] <Mangix> !botsnack
[12:39] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:39] <CzarAlex> TheHighChild: and try a different runlevel?
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> runlevel 1 is single user - I don't think you want that
[12:39] <TheHighChild> CzarAlex: no, then come back and we'll go from there ;)
[12:39] <CzarAlex> h3sp4wn: True.
[12:39] <CzarAlex> TheHighChild: okay. brb
[12:40] <TheHighChild> CzarAlex: There is 0-6 0 is halt, 1 is single user mode, 2-5 are multi user and 6 is reboot
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> CzarAlex: You need to remove things from starting from whatever run level you want to use
[12:40] <TheHighChild> CzarAlex: Def listen to h3sp4wn cause he pwns the hell out of me
[12:40] <CzarAlex> TheHighChild: understood :)
[12:40] <daniloc> hi
[12:40] <daniloc> how to configure the kernel
[12:40] <daniloc> ?
[12:40] <D3ltaCain> hey everyone, I have pretty serious kubuntu problem, I tired installing it on my friends computer and after the os loads, when you should get a long in screen, the monitor goes into standby. if you press the power button, you get the console looking stuff.
[12:40] <CzarAlex> h3sp4wn: and how do I know what i need to remove prior to setting the new runlevel?
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> CzarAlex: Remove kdm is a good start
[12:41] <daniloc> how to configure the kernel
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: make menuconfig
[12:42] <daniloc> root@Daniloc:/home/daniloc# make menuconfig
[12:42] <daniloc> bash: make: command not found
[12:42] <CzarAlex> h3sp4wn: sudo apt-get remove kdm ?
[12:42] <jt_> daniloc: you need automake
[12:43] <daniloc> what i need ?
[12:43] <jt_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> you don't need automake
[12:43] <daniloc> wait
[12:43] <daniloc> what i need now?
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> you need ncurses-dev kernel-package build-essential
[12:44] <CzarAlex> h3sp4wn: thats not to me is it..
[12:44] <Riddell> ** testers needed for  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143/ dapper main
[12:45] <daniloc> h3sp4wn: what i need, and what i must do ?
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: How would I know what you need
[12:45] <daniloc> listen
[12:45] <daniloc> but my english is bad
[12:46] <daniloc> i restard my computer, and when is booted my wifi card dont work!??!
[12:46] <daniloc> and i must use other kernel (recover) and now is ok
[12:46] <daniloc> if u mean me
[12:46] <daniloc> i dont know what is happening
[12:47] <daniloc> now is ok, but when i start standard kernel
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> edit /etc/apt/source.list find the line that says dapper-security main - change it to be dapper-security main restricted
[12:47] <daniloc> my wifi didnt work :(
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:47] <daniloc> h3sp4wn: talking to me ?
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> yep
[12:47] <daniloc> i do that
[12:47] <daniloc> i update all
[12:48] <daniloc> few hours ago
[12:48] <daniloc> i update all
[12:48] <daniloc> and restart computer
[12:48] <daniloc> when i boot the kubuntu
[12:48] <daniloc> wifi dont work
[12:48] <daniloc> but i dont know why
[12:48] <Darkkish> is it USB?
[12:49] <daniloc> no, PCI
[12:49] <daniloc> fuckin sys update
[12:50] <daniloc> anybody know what to do ?
[12:50] <daniloc> how to restore or something else?!?!
[12:51] <andi_> how can I open in the shell Kate (root modus) (/etc/apt/sources.list) ?
[12:51] <lupine_85> kdesu kate
[12:51] <andi_> thx
[12:52] <daniloc> h3sp4wn: help if u know how ..
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> I have already told you how
[12:53] <daniloc> what?
[12:58] <daniloc> h3sp4wn:
[12:58] <daniloc> i add this repos
[12:58] <daniloc> and do dist-upgrade
[12:58] <daniloc> u mean that ?
[12:59] <h3sp4wn> Yep
[01:00] <daniloc> ok...
[01:00] <daniloc> updating now :)
[01:00] <daniloc> when is update finished, what i need to do ?
[01:00] <biggie> hello
[01:02] <gan|y|med> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22687
[01:02] <gan|y|med> wrong channel, sry
[01:03] <daniloc> :))
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: Reboot and select the kernel and the correct modules / firmware should be there
[01:03] <daniloc> ok
[01:03] <daniloc> thanks
[01:03] <daniloc> /say $ip
[01:03] <daniloc> :)))
[01:05] <andi_> I tried to install a nvidia driver for my Geforce fx 5200, but then came that !
[01:05] <andi_> mom
[01:06] <andi_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/161933
[01:06] <Bud_Spencer> ive got the same card...
[01:06] <andi_> @Bud_Spencer jeah !
[01:07] <Hawkwind> trappist: Congrats man.  Just saw what was going on in the meeting channel :)
[01:07] <Bud_Spencer> one moment
[01:07] <trappist> Hawkwind: thanks :)
[01:08] <Bud_Spencer> what did you do?
[01:08] <Hawkwind> trappist: BTW...I hear you are working on a new version of IPKF...any release date set ?
[01:08] <andi_> I installed nvidia-glx !
[01:08] <trappist> Hawkwind: soon as I can get it put together.  it just fixes one bug.  then I'm gonna try to package it for edgy.
[01:09] <dnm_> Hi people. Quick question that I haven't found an easy answer to: how do I get Kate to stop showing end-of-line/CRLF marks?
[01:09] <Hawkwind> trappist: Very kewl.  It will be nice to have the latest in Edgy when it's released
[01:09] <Bud_Spencer> why didnt do that? change the driver from nv to nvividia in xorg.conf's driver section
[01:10] <Bud_Spencer> or Ill send you my xorg.conf
[01:11] <z22> bonjour tlm
[01:11] <Bud_Spencer> good fight, good night!
[01:11] <z22> j'ai install kubuntu 6.06 et j'ai un prob de clavier...
[01:12] <Hawkwind> !fr
[01:12] <daniloc> h3sp4wn: updated, what now ?
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: Reboot try the kernel
[01:14] <Darkkish> lol
[01:14] <Darkkish> now we wait until he comes back on liveCD telling you its broke
[01:21] <D3ltaCain> hey
[01:22] <D3ltaCain> I have a friend for who I tired to install kubuntu
[01:22] <D3ltaCain> but it failed miserably
[01:22] <D3ltaCain> as soon as kubuntu is done the loading stuff, the screen goes into standby
[01:22] <D3ltaCain> no output
[01:22] <D3ltaCain> can anyone help?
[01:27] <ubuntu> greetings
[01:28] <rhi> Set up latest quinns on a kubuntu box with ati, xserver fails to start, anyone know where i could look or the poblem?
[01:38] <daniloc> h3sp4wn: man, with standard kernel no working
[01:38] <vicky_> hi
[01:39] <daniloc> h3sp4wn: man, with standard kernel no working
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: What driver do you use ?
[01:40] <daniloc> i dont know
[01:40] <daniloc> ubuntu find it alone
[01:40] <daniloc> when i use secondary kernel image, everything do fine
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> Well that means you don't have dapper-security restricted enabled (thats the only thing it could be)
[01:41] <link_36p> Set up latest quinns on a kubuntu box with ati, xserver fails to start, anyone know where i could look or the poblem?
[01:41] <daniloc> it is enabled
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> link_36p: #ubuntu-xgl
[01:42] <daniloc> enabled 100%
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.26-386
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.26-386
[01:43] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.26-386 does not exist in any distro I know
[01:44] <daniloc> W: Unable to locate package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.26-386
[01:45] <daniloc> h3sp4wn: any idea ?
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: Manually download linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.26-386.deb from dapper-security
[01:46] <daniloc> and with that ?
[01:46] <daniloc> what to do ?
[01:47] <hybrid> DaSkreech pm me plz
 daniloc: Manually download linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.26-386.deb from dapper-security i have that, installed
[01:47] <daniloc> :(( what to do :(((
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> daniloc: Attempt to solve problems your self just moaning just irritates me - try finding a channel which speaks your own language
[01:49] <daniloc> dont have that channel
[01:50] <soulrider> !easysource
[01:50] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:51] <Sanne> daniloc: search the package on packages.ubuntu.com, download it to your harddisk, and install it with 'sudo dpkg -i <packagename>'
[01:51] <daniloc> i have thah package installed
[01:53] <soulrider> does anyone know how i can install GNOME on kubuntu edgy? :P
[01:54] <Mortice> soulrider: pretty sure even on edgy it's as simple as sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <soulrider> nope, the package doesnt seem to be there
[01:55] <Mortice> soulrider: can you pastebot your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[01:55] <soulrider> sure
[01:56] <soulrider> uhm... nevermind i think i can fix it myself
[01:56] <Mortice> soulrider: OK :)
[01:58] <Darkkish> hey
[01:58] <Darkkish> how do i kill artsd?
[01:58] <soulrider> yea, i think its gonna work :)
[01:58] <soulrider> sudo killall artsd i guess
[01:59] <soulrider> did theyc hange the font in edgy? :/
[02:01] <daniloc> good night ;)
[02:01] <daniloc> i must sleep :)
[02:01] <daniloc> cya
[02:02] <soulrider> Mortice: its working :)
[02:02] <Mortice> soulrider: it's better to do just "killall artsd" rather than "sudo killall artsd", so that you don't kill an artsd process spawned by another user.
[02:02] <Mortice> soulrider: Nice. :)
[02:14] <seurimas> hello all
[02:38] <DonDma> Hi
[02:41] <deeo> is there any reason for PAM stating my username/password are incorrect when trying to add a printer?
[02:42] <deeo> either via the control centre or via localhost:631
[02:42] <deeo> (http)
[02:42] <deeo> tried root, too, even assigned a password for root
[02:42] <deeo> no dice
[02:42] <deeo> error log says: cupsdAuthorize: pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)! \n CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
[02:44] <_ian> hi is there an autoscript to automount windows partitions?
[02:45] <ALEJO> hi
[02:45] <ALEJO> spanish?
[02:46] <_ian> sy
[02:46] <ubuntu> hey, anyone online that can help with an xine problem ?
[02:47] <Telroth> anyone?
[02:48] <killermach_> I lost sound somewhere while running easyubuntu, any clues?
[02:49] <_ian> guys is there a way to have a theme like suse run in kubuntu?
[02:51] <Telroth> _ian: yes
[02:55] <_ian> hmmm how will my windows partitions be automounted and accessible...i can see them in media folder but when i click on them it says i donthave access
[02:57] <Telroth> _ian: sudo umount /media/<device> && sudo mount /media/<device> -t ntfs -o rw,exec,uid=<your user name>
[02:59] <_ian> hmmm what does that command do? i just want to know
[02:59] <Telroth> it furst unmounts the drive
[02:59] <Telroth> *first
[02:59] <Telroth> then remounts it in read-write mode and gives your user read priviledges
[03:00] <_ian> how can i get it to be accessibvle mby all users?
[03:00] <_ian> is there a way to do that in fstab?
[03:01] <Darkkish> help me install mp3 support
[03:01] <Telroth> _ian: there's a way to do it in fstab, i can't tell you off the top of my head though
[03:02] <_ian> is automatix recommended for installing all the codecs like wht darkkish needs? i read itin the forums
[03:02] <Telroth> Darkkish: mp3 support is installed by default
[03:02] <Darkkish> no its not
[03:02] <Jondo> Hi, I'm trying to do some phone support for my brother trying to get his wireless to work in Kubuntu. I'm not familiar with the kcontrol network config panels.. Are these "knetworkconf", or something else? And would they conflict with manual settings done with iwconfig?
[03:02] <Darkkish> Telroth,  no its not
[03:05] <Telroth> Jondo: try start-> internet -> wireless assistant
[03:06] <_ian> Telroth now i can open the folder with the padlock icon on it without errors but twhats strange is there seems to be nothing inside while i do know there is
[03:06] <Darkkish> someone please tell me how to get mp3's working
[03:06] <Telroth> _ian: is the partition formatted as ntfs (windows 2000 or windows xp systems) ?
[03:07] <Telroth> Darkkish: give me moment
[03:08] <guest_> help me.. grub problem,  grub says error 17,  and so I boot to SystemRestoreCD and /dev/hda5 reports as unknown partition type in qtparted
[03:08] <guest_> my file partition should be ext3
[03:08] <Darkkish> guest
[03:08] <Darkkish> did you delete any Operating systems before uninstalling grub?
[03:09] <guest_> can i use fdisk to set the partition type to ext3 without trashing the data that may still be on the partition?
[03:09] <Telroth> guest_: hit c, then "root (hd0,0)" where the first 0 is the drive number and the second is the partition number
[03:09] <_ian> should my hrddrive be medi/hda1 or ev/hda1
[03:09] <guest_> no.. I have dual boot linux/winxp and I booted grub selected winxp and then shutdown winxp and rebooted now error 17
[03:10] <_ian> fix the mbr i guess
[03:10] <Telroth> then "kernel /path/to/kernel" (*usually* /vmlinuz)
[03:10] <guest_> Telroth: one drive only hda
[03:10] <Telroth> then "boot"
[03:10] <Telroth> _ian: both are correct
[03:10] <guest_> Telroth:  what about the patition type being listed as unknown now?
[03:11] <Telroth> _ian:  /dev/hda1 is the device, /media/hda1 is the mount point
[03:11] <Telroth> guest_: try it and see if it mounts it anyways
[03:11] <_ian> telroth how ocome the data in it wont show up?
[03:12] <guest_> from SystemRestoreCD I tried " mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /mnt/test" and I get bad superbock or wrong fstype erro
[03:13] <guest_> Telroth: ok I reboot and grub says error 17 I press "c" and nothing happens
[03:13] <guest_> even tapping
[03:13] <guest_> "c" while booting does not get past error 17
[03:14] <Telroth> guest_: not while booting
[03:14] <Telroth> guest_: while it's showing a menu
[03:14] <Telroth> hit 'c'
[03:14] <Telroth> instead of selecting linux or windows
[03:15] <guest_> Telroth: I don't get menu
[03:15] <Telroth> guest_: how do you choose which to boot normally then?
[03:16] <guest_> I get "GRUB Loading stage 1.5." a couple of blank lines and then "GRUB loading, please wait..." new line "Error 17"
[03:16] <Telroth> oh
[03:16] <Telroth> try reinstalling grub
[03:17] <guest_> Telroth: I normally get a boot menu with linux and winxp, until now when I get error 17
[03:18] <AtKaaZ> which script command asks the user to press any key to continue ?
[03:18] <phil_> AtKaaZ: you mean bash
[03:19] <Telroth> uh... it's not one command
[03:19] <AtKaaZ> AtKaaZ: yes
[03:19] <Telroth> it's several bash commands
[03:19] <AtKaaZ> phil_: yes
[03:19] <AtKaaZ> Telroth: there is no one command ?
[03:19] <slyboots> Hi
[03:20] <phil_> Aa
[03:20] <phil_> AtKaaZ: Have a look at "read"
[03:20] <AtKaaZ> phil_: thank you
[03:20] <guest_> hmm.. if I do fdisk -l /dev/hda .. hda5 shows type 83 Linux.. hmm
[03:21] <Telroth> AtKaaZ: take a look at the Read command
[03:22] <phil_> slyboots: what is your problem with install
[03:22] <AtKaaZ> Telroth: thanks ;)
[03:22] <Telroth> guest_: you need to reinstall grub i think.
[03:22] <slyboots> Well, Every time it installs.. it partitions, copies over the files, but when it reaches time to install GRUB, its all falls over
[03:23] <slyboots> And it seeps totaly convinced my Linux partition, ifr formated in something called "EFI GTP"
[03:23] <slyboots> *GPT
[03:25] <phil_> slyboots: is this a first install
[03:25] <slyboots> This is my.. 5th attempt at installing Ubunut on my desktop
[03:25] <slyboots> the install went fine on my secondary PC
[03:25] <slyboots> And Im getting just a *tad* hacked off
[03:25] <Adore> hello
[03:26] <Adore> i need help
[03:26] <Adore> i use ubuntu & i need software to can open Real files
[03:27] <Adore> What can i do please
[03:27] <Adore> i need to open real songs
[03:27] <Adore> in Linux
[03:27] <_ian> i think there is a real player for linux
[03:27] <Adore> Real & wav
[03:27] <phil_> slyboots: do you have lba enable in your bios for the drive
[03:28] <Adore> what about Wav fies
[03:28] <slyboots> Uh.. I assume so o.o
[03:28] <slyboots> I would be shocked it if was not
[03:28] <Adore> Please i want to open wave file
[03:29] <Adore> it's now working at well
[03:29] <guest_> Telroth:  hmm.. would this be grub-reinstall ?
[03:29] <Adore> just a sound
[03:29] <phil_> guys i am not irc expert how do you "redirect" ubotu msg to another user
[03:29] <Adore> without pic
[03:29] <guest_> oops.. make that grub-install
[03:30] <Adore> ok ok
[03:30] <Adore> now i too need to replace anew font
[03:30] <Adore> where can i put it to work
[03:31] <slyboots> Woops..
[03:31] <slyboots> Okay, Um.. Right
[03:31] <flake> what's a decent webpage editor
[03:31] <slyboots> Checked the bios, there is no mention of LBA, but.. well its a 200gb SATA drive so.. heck it must be enabled
[03:31] <phil_> flake: have a look at vi
[03:32] <phil_> flake: just kdding ook at quantas
[03:32] <Jondo> flake: kate or quanta
[03:32] <Jondo> phil_ type in /nick message
[03:33] <phil_> flake: kate has autocompletion
[03:33] <flake> lol.. thanks
[03:33] <phil_> Jondo: I want do redirect uboto output to another user
[03:33] <slyboots> Okay, what would cause the ubuntu install to go.. quite frankly insane
[03:34] <Jondo> phil_: like from your console?
[03:34] <phil_> slyboots: often its a code 18 that makes the install go wrong
[03:34] <slyboots> Which is..?
[03:34] <phil_> slyboots: you don't know about code 18?
[03:34] <Adore> Thanks for every thing
[03:34] <slyboots> No, cant say I do.. Thats why I asked
[03:34] <Adore> Thanks alot
[03:35] <slyboots> Let me guess "Crappy hardware" "Stupid user" something like that?
[03:35] <Adore> No body help me
[03:35] <Adore> thank you
[03:35] <phil_> slyboots: code 18 is the individaul 18 inches behind the keyboard lol!
[03:35] <Jondo> Adore what was your question?
[03:35] <Adore> i need to open wav fils please
[03:35] <slyboots> Ohh phil_ Your so witty and orignal, and totaly not a jerk
[03:35] <Adore> it's not working very well
[03:35] <Adore> sound without pic
[03:35] <phil_> slyboots: sorry
[03:36] <Jondo> Adore: What do you mean "not very well"? do you get any sound?
[03:36] <Adore> yes
[03:36] <phil_> slyboots: have you checked your bios for lba
[03:36] <Adore> just a sound
[03:36] <slyboots> There was no mention of it, I guess either it does not use it, or it cant be enabled/disabled
[03:36] <Adore> without vedio
[03:36] <Jondo> Adore: Try Audacity
[03:36] <Adore> How?
[03:36] <slyboots> Its a fairly new motherboard, and SATA controllers
[03:36] <slyboots> I dont think they need LBA..
[03:36] <Jondo> apt-get install audacity as root
[03:37] <Adore> Thanks alot Jondo
[03:37] <Adore> Thanks man
[03:37] <Jondo> no problem
[03:38] <slyboots> I mean, I've tried the defautl "Graphical" install twice, and now the text based alterative CD
[03:38] <slyboots> Both hit the same problem, grub craps out with a undefined error, And when I look at the partition table in fdisk, its just nonsence, a huge partition in something called ELP .. something
[03:38] <slyboots> ELP GTP I think
[03:38] <slyboots> Instead of two partitions of EXT3 and SWAP
[03:40] <Adore> yes
[03:40] <Adore> i get a sound
[03:40] <Adore> i am so sorry
[03:40] <Adore> it's wmv
[03:40] <Adore> not wav
[03:40] <Adore> so sorry
[03:41] <Adore> i want to open wmv files
[03:41] <geneo93> win32 codecs
[03:41] <Telroth> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[03:42] <Adore> Thank you for helping me M.r Telroth
[03:42] <Adore> Thanks every body
[03:42] <slyboots> Anyone any idea what could be wrong..?
[03:42] <Telroth> yw Adore
[03:42] <guest_> Telroth: hda6 was my / partition and it is where grub was,
[03:43] <guest_> I don't want to loose the hda6 data that may be there
[03:43] <Telroth> guest_: load up a livecd of some distro that uses grub
[03:43] <Telroth> install grub to a floppy
[03:43] <Telroth> boot to the floppy
[03:44] <rioux602> salut
[03:44] <Telroth> then attempt the 'c' command when it shows the list of things to boot
[03:44] <Telroth> heya rioux602
[03:44] <phil_> guest_: have a look at !ubotu grub
[03:44] <rioux602> i need a lil help
[03:44] <phil_> rioux602: just ask
[03:44] <rioux602> how can i know wich packages are installed ?
[03:45] <Adore> i need to update my Media player coz it's telling me ( You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file.You might need to install the necessary plugins.)
[03:45] <Adore> What can i do to fix this problem?
[03:46] <rioux602> there are maybe other file players you can use ?
[03:47] <D3ltaCain> hey any one here?
[03:47] <rioux602> oh i think you need to install the mp3 decoder with easyubuntu
[03:47] <rioux602> it's what i did
[03:47] <Telroth> rioux602: start->system-<adept package manager
[03:47] <rioux602> thx ! :)
[03:48] <rioux602> lol seams stupid.. i didnt explore much srry XD
[03:48] <Telroth> rioux602: uncheck everything except "installed"
[03:48] <Telroth> then wait for it to refresh
[03:50] <Telroth> rioux602: nvm, it isn't working like i expected it to
[03:50] <slyboots> sweet jesus..
[03:51] <rioux602> ok lol thanks :p
[03:51] <slyboots>  Perhaps I should not bother with Ubuntu to be honest, I mean.. I've been just trying to install it for 2 days
[03:52] <slyboots> Thats a long bloody time just to get a OS to boot o.o
[03:54] <phil_> slyboots: you have tried other distros
[03:54] <slyboots> No, Because Ubuntu was supposed to be "easy"
[03:54] <slyboots> What a hollow laugh THAT is
[03:54] <Telroth> slyboots: easy is realative.
[03:55] <Telroth> I agree in general it is easy
[03:55] <slyboots> If this is easy, I dont bloody want to see hard.. What the hell is it going ot do? Give me eletric shocks via the mouse?
[03:55] <slyboots> *Electric
[03:55] <Telroth> but you might a werid configuration
[03:55] <Eeyore_Jr> heh
[03:55] <phil_> slyboots: honestly i've tried lots of distros and it is the simplest,  have you installed grub on the MBR
[03:55] <Telroth> mandrake was also supposed to be 'easy'
[03:55] <slyboots> Grub wont install ANYWHERE
[03:55] <slyboots> Every time I try "AGH! FATAL ERROR"
[03:55] <Telroth> but it couldn't work with my soundcard, made me really angry
[03:55] <Telroth> slyboots: have you ever googled the error?
[03:55] <slyboots> It thinks the partition is some weird crap "0xeee"
[03:56] <slyboots> There is no error, just "Grub: FATAL ERROR, Can not install in hd(0,0)
[03:56] <Telroth> 99.9% chance says someone else has encountered the error
[03:56] <slyboots> I've tried Google
[03:56] <slyboots> Plenty of mentions of people having assorted issues with grub, but no actual suggestions on how to *fix* the problems
[03:57] <slyboots> amd each partition program see's my drive just a little differently
[03:57] <phil_> slyboots: do you hve a feature in your bios thats stop writing to the MBR have a look (try to turn off bios virus detection)
[03:57] <slyboots> No, Thats turned off
[03:57] <Telroth> slyboots: is that the actual error message, word for word?
[03:57] <slyboots> Yup
[03:58] <slyboots> I can install it again if you like, it wont make a damn bit of difference
[03:58] <slyboots> And as for the partitioning, gfdisk thinks I have two partiions.. which is right
[03:58] <slyboots> Gparted thinks the disk is totaly blank
[03:58] <slyboots> fdisk thinks I have one huge partition bigger than the disc itself in some freaky format I've never heard of
[03:58] <Telroth> slyboots: I know you're irritated, but i'd feel better helping you if you weren't so angry
[03:59] <Telroth> slyboots: try 'parted' as root
[03:59] <slyboots> And the Ubuntu installer thinks both o.o
[03:59] <slyboots> Give me 10 while I install the system again
[03:59] <Telroth> a live cd will work
[03:59] <phil_> slyboots: partiotn table screwed up?
[04:00] <Telroth> phil_: that seems the most likely.
[04:00] <slyboots> I've blitzed the drive
[04:00] <Telroth> completely?
[04:00] <slyboots> Twice, No sorry, 3 times
[04:00] <slyboots> Deleted all partitions, theres not much else Ic an do to it unless you have a suggestion
[04:01] <Telroth> if you have a live cd of kubuntu, load it and pull up a command prompt
[04:01] <Telroth> 'sudo parted'
[04:01] <slyboots> I do.. hold on
[04:01] <Telroth> then type print
[04:01] <slyboots> Will the rescue disc work as wel for that?
[04:01] <Telroth> I'm not entirely sure, as i've never used it.
[04:01] <Telroth> It'll probably work though
[04:02] <slyboots> Okay 2 secs
[04:02] <Telroth> as long as it has the parted utility (kubuntu should be SHOT if it doesn't)
[04:02] <slyboots> I appericate you trying to help me, and I do apolagise if I am comming off as being angry
[04:02] <Telroth> nah, it's ok slyboots
[04:02] <Telroth> i know that feeling
[04:02] <slyboots> I have been trying to get this system working for 3 days, And Im sick of getting "Oh its user error, your a idiot"
[04:02] <grothesk> Hi!
[04:02] <Telroth> hello grothesk
[04:02] <slyboots> Hi
[04:03] <Telroth> slyboots: that is one of the things i do not like about the linux community
[04:03] <grothesk> How do I turn off systemservices?
[04:03] <Telroth> slyboots: a lot of people had to learn to install it on their own and expect everyone else to do the same
[04:03] <grothesk> My kubunutu keeps startin lvm, raid-stuff and so on.
[04:03] <slyboots> Telroth: I have nothing against learning how to do something but.. Have you *read* some of the man pages around..
[04:03] <Telroth> grothesk: are they messing with yoru computer in some way that it's not functioning correctly?
[04:03] <slyboots> Its scary ;)
[04:04] <Telroth> slyboots: not really. most of the programs that i need man pages for don't have them :P
[04:04] <grothesk> Telroth: They are not necessary on that box.
[04:04] <Telroth> grothesk: yes, but are the hindering performance?
[04:04] <grothesk> Sure they do.
[04:04] <slyboots> haha, thats quite true ;) "Read the man page noob!"
[04:04] <grothesk> They slow up booting time.
 man foo | Manual page not found.
[04:05] <Telroth> grothesk: many modules will load but not detect anything, and thus simply remove themselves or idle using little if no resources on memory and no cpu resources.
[04:05] <slyboots> grothesk: I think you might have to compile your own kernel to do that.. Its not hard but its not exactly straight foward
[04:05] <Telroth> actually, no
[04:06] <Telroth> grothesk: you'd need to look into editing the module list that loads on startup
[04:06] <grothesk> But when turning the computer off, the services will be unloaded.
[04:06] <Telroth> ah
[04:06] <grothesk> Telroth: I did so. I turned off those things in RL 0 to RL 5.
[04:07] <Telroth> check /etc/rcS.d
[04:07] <Telroth> that contains static services that load regardless of runlevel
[04:07] <grothesk> Take lvm for example: I set it to 'Not loaded on startup' for EVERY RL there is. But is still will be loaded.
[04:07] <Telroth> also look into /etc/rc.local
[04:07] <grothesk> O.K. I'll have a look.
[04:08] <Telroth> grothesk: where did you make these changes, was it in a graphical editor?
[04:08] <grothesk> Telroth: In that kubunut specific Systemsettings-thingy.
[04:08] <slyboots> Okay, Telroth I went into Parted, deleted the two offending partitions.. despite the fact the drive *should* have been blank..
[04:09] <slyboots> I dont see any "Write" or "Confirm changes" option.. is there one at all?
[04:09] <Telroth> yes
[04:10] <Telroth> err, no
[04:10] <Telroth> i must be thinking of fstab
[04:10] <Telroth> err, fdisk
[04:10] <Telroth> lol
[04:10] <slyboots> Okay, Well is there a way to.. "Blast" a drive?
[04:10] <Telroth> oh, yes
[04:10] <Telroth> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda
[04:10] <Telroth> or /dev/zero
[04:10] <slyboots> Right, something is *realy* wrong here
[04:10] <Telroth> yoru choice
[04:11] <Telroth> what's wrong?
[04:11] <slyboots> I ran fdisk, it is stil seeing a partition
[04:11] <Telroth> blast it with that command for a few minutes
[04:11] <slyboots> /dev/sdb1  24419757+ blocks, ID ee, System EFI GPT
[04:11] <slyboots> Its 400gb
[04:11] <slyboots> Wont that take.. a while
[04:12] <Telroth> it simply copies random data to the harddrive :P
[04:12] <Telroth> not really
[04:12] <Telroth> the partition table is at the very beginning of the drive
[04:12] <slyboots> Okay, Running.. There is no "output" but..
[04:12] <Telroth> so just have to get past it (it's only like 512kb for master boot record+partition table
[04:12] <Telroth> there should be no output
[04:12] <slyboots> I almost typed in /dev/sda as the target.. That would have been *bad* ;)
[04:12] <Telroth> just hit crtl+c to halt it after a few minutes
[04:13] <Telroth> ah, that would have been bad
[04:13] <slyboots> okay..
[04:13] <Telroth> there's no are you sure with dd
[04:13] <Telroth> it simply copies data
[04:13] <Telroth> (great way to image a drive btw)
[04:13] <slyboots> Ah, Apple and Raspberry I should say
[04:13] <slyboots> Telroth: By writing random data to it?
[04:14] <Telroth> slyboots: no
[04:14] <Telroth> dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/backups/myimage.iso
[04:14] <Telroth> or to iso a cd
[04:14] <slyboots> I will have to remember that
[04:14] <slyboots> Okay, That should do it anyway
[04:15] <Telroth> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/cds/starcraft.iso
[04:15] <slyboots> oh yea, the disc is blitzed now
[04:15] <slyboots> Its asking for a new partition to use as a base
[04:15] <slyboots> okay, Got back to a shell
[04:15] <Telroth> :)
[04:16] <Telroth> use parted to partition
[04:16] <slyboots> . . .
[04:16] <Telroth> i don't know if it's actually better than anything else
[04:16] <slyboots> Fdisk is STILL showing up that partition
[04:16] <Telroth> but it's never done me wrong
[04:16] <Telroth> screw fdisk
[04:16] <Telroth> i recommend parted :P
[04:16] <slyboots> Okay, But I can see this going horridly wrong again..
[04:18] <slyboots> What is a "Disc Lable Type"
[04:18] <Telroth> are you in parted?
[04:18] <Telroth> it's the partition table type ;)
[04:18] <slyboots> Yea, But It thinks my "Disck Lable Type" is "GPT"
[04:18] <Telroth> ah
[04:18] <slyboots> Thats the same as that bolloxed partition fdisk keeps seeing
[04:18] <Telroth> type mklabel msdos
[04:18] <neddiW> is there a kde app that shows a volume bar like in gnome?
[04:18] <Telroth> kmix
[04:18] <slyboots> Okay, Its MSdos now
[04:19] <slyboots> :)
[04:19] <Telroth> neddiW: click the little speaker icon in your system tray
[04:19] <Telroth> just like in windows
[04:19] <slyboots> And, Intrestingly fdisk is NO longer seeing the partition
[04:19] <Telroth> hehe
[04:19] <Telroth> You'd fit right in on my network *nods*
[04:20] <slyboots> Oh?
[04:20] <Telroth> probably :P
[04:20] <slyboots> haha, What sort of network is it?
[04:20] <Telroth> anyways, how many partitions do you want on the drive?
[04:20] <Adore> How can i install Adept for ubuntu
[04:20] <Telroth> well, it's a general chat server
[04:21] <Adore> i do it from add & remove
[04:21] <Telroth> but specifically designed to be a safe haven for people who need to get away from others and be in a peaceful environment
[04:21] <slyboots> Sounds good o.
[04:21] <Adore> Could not launch menu item
[04:21] <Telroth> Adore: sudo apt-get install adept
[04:21] <Adore> Details: Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or directory)
[04:21] <Adore> Thanks
[04:21] <Telroth> Adore: do that on a command line
[04:22] <Adore> ok
[04:22] <Adore> thanks
[04:22] <Telroth> slyboots: how many partitions do you want?
[04:22] <Telroth> Adore: you're welcome
[04:22] <flake> here i sit all broken-hearted,  i came to dump but only qparted
[04:22] <Adore> in treminal
[04:22] <slyboots> Just two, Im just reading the guide and Im fairly sure what commands to use
[04:22] <Telroth> slyboots: you may have better luck with qtparted or gparted now that the partition label is fixed
[04:22] <slyboots> (Im just going to go for / and SWAP, This has been stressfull enough
[04:22] <slyboots> Oh no, Parted got me out of this mess .. I hope, So thats what Im sticking with
[04:23] <neddiW> Telroth, thanks but im talking about an on-screen display of the volume, like macs or gnome do
[04:23] <Telroth> slyboots: qtparted and gparted are only frontends to the parted backend
[04:23] <Adore> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:23] <slyboots> *nods* "Ah.."
[04:24] <Telroth> neddiW: if it's an external program (not integrated with the window manager or something) you can still run it
[04:24] <slyboots> "No implementation : Support for created ext3 file systems is not implemented yet"
[04:24] <Telroth> slyboots: ignore
[04:24] <Telroth> don't bother about formatting
[04:24] <Telroth> just get them sized right
[04:24] <Telroth> the kubuntu installer will format anyways
[04:24] <slyboots> Ah okay
[04:24] <sorush20> how do I access a shared folder?
[04:25] <Telroth> sorush20: where is it located?
[04:25] <Telroth> like, a shared folder from a windows computer?
[04:25] <neddiW> Telroth, i am asking if there is a program or a kde app that can do such thing :)
[04:25] <sorush20> Telroth: no its on another ubuntu computer..
[04:25] <Adore> my Adept not working
[04:25] <sorush20> I think I have it up and running I just don't know how to access it .. I set it to port 8001
[04:25] <ubuntu> !avi
[04:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:26] <Telroth> neddiW: i'm saying if it's an application that run separately from gnome, then it'll run in kde
[04:26] <Telroth> neddiW: look around http://kde-apps.org
[04:26] <Telroth> they have a lot of stuff there
[04:26] <Telroth> http://kde-look.org if you need themes and stuff :P
[04:26] <slyboots> Okay, Thats working so far, Actuly.. how big should a SWAP be? Equal to your Ram or..?
[04:26] <Telroth> if ram < 512 mb
[04:27] <Telroth> swap = ram * 2
[04:27] <Adore> My Adept says Eror Could not launch menu item
[04:27] <Adore> help me please
[04:27] <Telroth> else swap = ram
[04:27] <Telroth> if ram > 1gb
[04:27] <sorush20> Telroth: well can you help please?
[04:27] <Telroth> swap = 0 *unless you are running large programs (photoshop, etc) that are memory intensive
[04:27] <slyboots> Okay, I'll stick with 1gb of SWAP then
[04:27] <Telroth> sorush20: i'll try
[04:28] <Telroth> sorush20: do you know the ip of the computer?
[04:28] <Telroth> if so, go to konqueror and try "fish://<ip of other computer>
[04:28] <rioux602> im back :p
[04:28] <neddiW> Telroth, thanks
[04:28] <neddiW> ill take a look
[04:28] <neddiW> Telroth, Im sorry the app i mensioned IS part of gnome so i cannot use it here :)
[04:28] <neddiW> Telroth, ill look @ kde-apps
[04:28] <slyboots> Okay, Thats the partitioning setup, Now to re-run the installed..
[04:28] <slyboots> Then go to bed :D
[04:31] <Telroth> neddiW: what's the app called?
[04:31] <slyboots> Telroth: Sorry again, but.. Should I set the "/" partition as Bootable? (This is not the drive the bios will look at
[04:31] <Telroth> i'd recommend it
[04:32] <Telroth> it may help if a problem arises
[04:32] <slyboots> Huh, I cant send private messages *chuckles*
[04:32] <Telroth> but it's not criticle
[04:32] <Telroth> *critical
[04:32] <Telroth> oh
[04:32] <Telroth> darn :P
[04:32] <slyboots> Have to register.. I will do that in a moment :D
[04:32] <rioux602> humm someone can help me installing samba ?
[04:33] <slyboots> Ah.. this name is already taken.. hmm..
[04:33] <sorush20> Telroth: the ip is the ip assigned by my dhcp client on my router..
[04:33] <Slychocobo> There we go
[04:33] <Telroth> sorush20: do you have access to the other computer?
[04:34] <Telroth> if so, type "ifconfig"
[04:34] <sorush20> Telroth: yes I do
[04:34] <neddiW> umm it comes bundled with gnome [Ubuntu]  maybe Volume Manager
[04:34] <Telroth> look for a line that's like "inet addr:192.168.1.100"
[04:34] <Telroth> in the eth0 device
[04:34] <Telroth> or whatever device it's using for internet (*not* "lo")
[04:35] <neddiW> Telroth, its a little bar that shows the volume in the middle of the screen
[04:35] <sorush20> Telroth: okay i have the ip addrss
[04:35] <Telroth> neddiW: it's likely an external application.
[04:36] <Telroth> if you can find the executable, you can simply run it
[04:36] <Ashex> anyone else have the problem with superkaramba suddenly losing all the applets?
[04:36] <neddiW> Telroth, oh ok
[04:36] <Telroth> if you load ubuntu, type "ps aux" and then look for a program that's likely it
[04:37] <Telroth> Ashex: i haven't used it in a while, but i can't recall it ever doing that to me. sorry i can't be of help.
[04:37] <rioux602> Telroth ?
[04:37] <Telroth> sorush20: [21:33:07]  <Telroth> if so, go to konqueror and try "fish://<ip of other computer>
[04:37] <flaccid> how can i do an equiv of rpm --what-provides
[04:37] <Telroth> rioux602: yes?
[04:37] <rioux602> you can help me trying to install samba ?
[04:37] <flaccid> i mean rpm -ql or i think its -ql
[04:37] <flaccid> -qf
[04:37] <Ashex> hmm
[04:38] <Telroth> flaccid: try "apt-get install <package>"
[04:38] <Slychocobo> rioux602:  You might be best fetching a Samba Howto from the Ubuntu forums
[04:38] <Telroth> it'll either install it, or list packages that provide it
[04:38] <driz> i just installed picasa from google and i dont see anywhere in the Kmenu
[04:38] <Ashex> I'm trying to reinstall it with a sudo apt-get --reinstall, but it wants to remove kde and kdeutils with it
[04:38] <Slychocobo> Im sure that could help you much more with getting you started than we could
[04:38] <Telroth> driz: look in utilities
[04:38] <oisacx> Hi
[04:38] <driz> Telroth: nothing
[04:38] <phil_> oisacx: helloooo
[04:39] <neddiW> in one kubuntu right now so i cant tell :S
[04:39] <neddiW> Telroth, many thanks! :)
[04:39] <flaccid> Telroth: sorry i want to see a list of files that an installed package owns
[04:39] <Ashex> er, I meant to say that --reinstall doesn't work since superkaramba isn't in my repos for some reason. And when i do an apt-get remove, it tries to take out kde and kdeutils  with it
[04:39] <sorush20> Telroth: I'm not getting anything come up ..
[04:39] <oisacx> anyone knows hoe to get the two flashing computers for the network monitoring in KDE?
[04:39] <phil_> Ashex: don't llok for superkaramba just use karamba
[04:39] <Telroth> oisacx: yes, give me a moment, i have like 5 people asking me something :P
[04:39] <oisacx> cool ok
[04:39] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: you there?
[04:40] <phil_> oisacx: and and applet to the taskbar
[04:40] <Telroth> oisacx: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=13972
[04:40] <Telroth> try that
[04:40] <Telroth> knetworkled
[04:40] <Telroth> it's just like the windows one
[04:40] <phil_> oisacx: rigthclick on task bar and have a look at the menues
[04:41] <ccherrett> does kubuntu come with mplayer? How does it deal with video?
[04:41] <Slychocobo> ccherrett: Mplayer does not come pre-installed, but it is easy to add with the built-in package manager
[04:41] <ccherrett> so apt-get install mplayer?
[04:41] <Telroth> ccherrett: kubuntu uses xine+kaffeine
[04:41] <Slychocobo> Yup
[04:42] <Telroth> yes ccherrett
[04:42] <ccherrett> I am looking ot move someone from windows to linux and can't decide what distro to use
[04:42] <phil_> ccherrett: kubuntu!
[04:42] <ccherrett> how uptodate is kubuntu
[04:42] <Slychocobo> ccherrett: Ubuntu seems to be the option of choice for linux newfolk
[04:42] <phil_> ccherrett: autoupdate?
[04:42] <Slychocobo> Um.. "Very"?
[04:43] <Telroth> ccherrett: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" as root
[04:43] <ccherrett> cool
[04:43] <_mathieu> hello
[04:43] <Slychocobo> Hi mathieu
[04:43] <_mathieu> I need help with ntfs writing
[04:43] <Telroth> ccherrett: i'd start with kubuntu or knoppix
[04:43] <Telroth> kubuntu is #1 atm
[04:43] <Telroth> (on my list anyways)
[04:43] <_mathieu> for some reasons it always worked before (debian)
[04:43] <Slychocobo> _mathieu: It is my understanding that NTFS writing is still expermental..
[04:44] <Slychocobo> So.. I wouldnt
[04:44] <_mathieu> yea but i never had problems
[04:44] <Telroth> _mathieu: apt-get install ntfstools
[04:44] <_mathieu> Telroth: yea ok and then?
[04:44] <Slychocobo> Or you.. What Telroth said
[04:44] <ccherrett> I use to delete my media cds from urpmi in Mandriva and set my mirrors so that I got up to date packages does kubuntu work simillarily
[04:44] <Telroth> _mathieu: edit your fstab file and make sure you're using "fuse-ntfs" as the fstype for the ntfs partitions
[04:45] <_mathieu> Telroth: it tells me it wasnt shut down properly
[04:45] <Telroth> ccherrett: kubuntu uses debian's apt-get
[04:45] <flaccid> how can i use dpkg to list the contents of an installed package
[04:45] <_mathieu> its a USB HD, windows isnt installed on it
[04:45] <Telroth> flaccid: is it an already-installed package or a .deb file?
[04:45] <Telroth> _mathieu: i'd recommend finding a windows computer and booting with the drive connected so that windows fixes the problems
[04:46] <ccherrett> Telroth: how many disks do I need to download?
[04:46] <Slychocobo> ccherrett: 1
[04:46] <Telroth> ccherrett: to install kubuntu?
[04:46] <Telroth> 1 cd or 1 dvd
[04:46] <ccherrett> yes
[04:46] <_mathieu> Telroth: and it will wor even if windows isnt installed on the disk?
[04:46] <Slychocobo> A Live CD which includes a demo version you can play around with and install to your hard-drive
[04:46] <Telroth> after install you don't need the cds
[04:46] <Slychocobo> Or a Text based one which just does the install
[04:46] <ccherrett> I thought that is what I saw but it seemed wrong considering fedora is 5
[04:46] <flaccid> Telroth: already installed. wanting to see what it provides
[04:46] <Telroth> kubuntu doesn't use them for install programs
[04:46] <flaccid> provided rather
[04:47] <Telroth> flaccid: give me a moment
[04:47] <Slychocobo> ccherrett: You get packages from the internet as you need them, the CD comes with everything you need to get going
[04:48] <flaccid> thanks Telroth, i couldn't find it
[04:49] <_mathieu> Telroth: thanks for the help. i think ill just try booting knoppix on the machine :S
[04:49] <Telroth> flaccid: have you installed it recently?
[04:49] <_mathieu> (easier than finding windows lol)
[04:49] <Telroth> (via apt-get)
[04:49] <ccherrett> anyone know a fast donload mirror?
[04:49] <flaccid> yep
[04:50] <Telroth> ccherrett: the default ones are quite speedy
[04:50] <Telroth> oh
[04:50] <Telroth> for the cds
[04:50] <Slychocobo> ccherrett: Just select one close to your location, they are normaly quite fast
[04:50] <ccherrett> yes
[04:50] <ccherrett> 90kbs
[04:50] <Telroth> if you need real speed, use bittorrent if you know how to use it
[04:50] <mshade> i grabbed kubuntu at almost 2MB/s but i don't recall which mirror
[04:50] <mshade> i've never seen that speed from bittorrent :-D
[04:51] <Telroth> though i don't really have time right now to help you set up bittorrent if you don't already know how
[04:51] <Telroth> mshade: depends on the torrent
[04:51] <Telroth> and client
[04:51] <Telroth> azeurus pulls well over 5MB/sec
[04:52] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: I am now
[04:52] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: hey man hows it going?
[04:52] <Hawkwind> Good good, just relaxing and watching some tv
[04:52] <ccherrett> mistik1 told me you were here
[04:53] <Hawkwind> Yep, I'm always here now :)
[04:53] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: I am just going to install kubuntu for a friend
[04:53] <Zamboulie> there are no linux drivers for an audigy 2????!??!!?!?
[04:53] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: are you building packages?
[04:53] <starhawk> hi all
[04:53] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: Yeppers.  http://SeerOfSouls.com/ubuntu.html
[04:53] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: Mainly E17 at the moment
[04:54] <starhawk> I am tring to install wine any help
[04:54] <Hawkwind> starhawk: Have you tried in #WineHQ where the experts are ?
[04:55] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: are you in mandriva anymore? I did not see you there?
[04:55] <Zamboulie> are there any 3rd party linux drivers for my audigy 2?
[04:55] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: LOL nope.  I don't use the distro, nor am I an op there either
[04:55] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: I stepped down June 1st when I made a complete switch to Kubuntu
[04:58] <flaccid> i require darkice to be compiled with lame. unfortunately the default package from the source is not compiled with lame. is there another package or thing i can do to avoid compiling it?
[04:59] <jake1> !chroot
[04:59] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:00] <rcmn> a
[05:00] <driz> hey guys how do i send a file in Kopete
[05:00] <driz> ?
[05:01] <mshade> driz - it's convoluted
[05:01] <driz> meaning>
[05:01] <driz> ?
[05:01] <mshade> hold on, lemme open it up
[05:01] <driz> ok
[05:02] <mshade> chat > contacts > *contact name* > send file
[05:02] <mshade> the menu in the conversation window
[05:02] <driz> the send file icon is grey
[05:02] <driz> can't click on it
[05:03] <mshade> hmm, not sure why
[05:03] <mshade> is the other person still online?
[05:03] <driz> ya
[05:03] <rcmn> what network ?
[05:03] <driz> AIM
[05:03] <mshade> it may do NAT-detection or something
[05:03] <rcmn> yuck i don'tknow then
[05:03] <driz> AIM on Kopete
[05:04] <driz>  NAT-detection?
[05:04] <rcmn> i have evrything but aim sorry can't check
[05:04] <driz> oh ok
[05:06] <Zamboulie> quick question
[05:06] <Eleaf> ah
[05:07] <Zamboulie> i downloaded teamspeak server and i want to know how do i run the server
[05:07] <Zamboulie> whats the command for an executable
[05:07] <rcmn> ./teamspeak
[05:08] <rcmn> attend je regarde chez moi
[05:09] <Zamboulie> its the teamspeak server
[05:09] <Zamboulie> i try to cd into it then run it and it says permission denied
[05:09] <Darkkish> i just installed tightvnc
[05:09] <pestilence> in breezy, my touchpad would scroll when i dragged down the right side of it...in dapper it no longer does this.  how do i get this back?
[05:09] <Eleaf> is it tight Darkkish ?
[05:09] <Darkkish> and i can't figure out where it installed to
[05:10] <Darkkish> >.<
[05:10] <skavenge> dpkg -L packagename will tell you where everythign went
[05:10] <Darkkish> thanks
[05:11] <rcmn> it's teamspeak_server
[05:11] <Darkkish> what?
[05:11] <Darkkish> no its tightvncserver
[05:11] <mshade> Darkkish, kde has its own vnc server by the way
[05:11] <Darkkish> yeah but tightvnc rocks
[05:11] <Darkkish> i'll show you why later
[05:11] <rcmn> darkkish not talking to u
[05:12] <mshade> Darkkish, yeah but tightvnc won't run on your current session :)
[05:12] <Darkkish> rcmn, it was what i needed too :p
[05:12] <Darkkish> er
[05:12] <Darkkish> oh nvm >.<
[05:12] <rcmn> ] -|
[05:14] <phil_> ironfroggy: speak french
[05:14] <rcmn> hey zamboulie did u make it ?
[05:14] <rcmn> ouai
[05:15] <Zamboulie> no
[05:15] <Zamboulie> how do i do that
[05:15] <ironfroggy> say what?
[05:16] <Zamboulie> like make ./server_linux?
[05:16] <rcmn> are u trying from local drive ?
[05:16] <Zamboulie> yes
[05:16] <Zamboulie> http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=tutorial_b
[05:16] <Zamboulie> the commands are different
[05:16] <rcmn> try sudo ./server_linux
[05:17] <Zamboulie> and i dont know if you have to make another account just to run it
[05:17] <Zamboulie> i think i can do it on my regular user
[05:17] <rcmn> u should
[05:17] <rcmn> don;t run at root
[05:17] <rcmn> just for testing
[05:18] <rcmn> yep creat the user
[05:18] <rcmn> where does it fail ?
[05:19] <rcmn> ./teamspeak2_server_startscript start
[05:19] <Zamboulie> thats not the filename though
[05:19] <Zamboulie> i accidently got the beta
[05:19] <Zamboulie> i'll do this tomorrow
[05:19] <rcmn> u have to give teamspeak the right to execute it
[05:19] <Zamboulie> i'm supposed to be in bed
[05:20] <Zamboulie> ok
[05:20] <Zamboulie> well i'm out for the night
[05:20] <Zamboulie> bye
[05:20] <rcmn> bye
[05:24] <oisacx> Thanks for the tip for knetworkled, I've tried it, but I got message about missing packages... I searched the net and found about knemo, and it seems to be working nice now.
[05:25] <jake1> uh oh!! i need help
[05:25] <oisacx> go for itjake
[05:25] <jake1> i just followed all the directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and i got as far asSetting up your chroot with debootstrap
[05:26] <jake1> and now i'm lost
[05:26] <stahnma> can anyone help me configure xorg for dual monitors?
[05:26] <stahnma> I have done it many times before, but am having problems on kubuntu
[05:26] <rioux602> hello
[05:26] <jake1> sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 dapper /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:26] <jake1>  --arch i386
[05:27] <jake1> but it says "no such script --arch"
[05:27] <rioux602> Someone can help me configuring a network printer ?
[05:27] <ironfroggy> any suggest how i can set up hostnames on a local network with changing IPs?
[05:27] <jake1> riouz602: TCP/IP or something elese
[05:27] <jake1> else*
[05:28] <jake1> i just did my first today without any problems
[05:28] <ironfroggy> my router keeps changing my boxes' IPs
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> i alwyas just set static ips for my local lan machines.
[05:29] <rcmn> me too
[05:29] <jake1> probably cuz you are leasing your IP
[05:29] <oisacx> can't help you on this one
[05:29] <rcmn> just set that on ur router
[05:29] <rcmn> what router do u have ?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> actually my router also seems to rember which machine got what ip - when using dhcp. and tends to give them the same ip back
[05:29] <begleysm> Mortice: Thanks for the compile... got through the instructions but still couldnt get it to work... then I remembered I had a wireless card installed too.  I disabled the wired NIC and enabled the wireless and it worked instantly hehe... guess I'll just use wireless for kubuntu :)
[05:30] <mshade> !vmware
[05:30] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:33] <jake1> anyone have any ideas what i did wrong
[05:35] <ironfroggy_> ugh stupid router. anyway, again, how do i configure static IPs and does it require anything configured on my router?
[05:35] <jake1> has anyone going chroot working???????
[05:35] <jake1> got*
[05:36] <jake1> ironfroggy_ there should be something about leasing
[05:36] <rcmn> foggy what is ur router
[05:36] <jake1> change it to forever
[05:42] <Darkkish> still havn
[05:42] <Darkkish> have not figured out how to open it
[05:43] <Darkkish> vnc
[05:43] <sorush20> vnc?
[05:43] <Darkkish> tight vnc
[05:44] <sorush20> can anyone help me with sharing files/folders with two kubuntu machines.. I'm assuming I need nfs , then right click non the files and the folder to share then edit the sharing..
[05:44] <sorush20> now how do I access the file and folder from the other computer aka remote location..
[05:45] <sorush20> and how do I make sure there is an nfs server now running, does there need to be one running?
[05:45] <mshade> sorush20, you can use scp, if you have ssh enabled
[05:45] <Darkkish> k i have a feeling it didn't install
[05:45] <Darkkish> at all
[05:45] <sorush20> mshade:
[05:45] <sorush20> mshade: why would I prefer that ?
[05:45] <mshade> try konqueror... fish://username@192.168.X.X
[05:46] <mshade> sorush20, just a simple no-setup solution
[05:46] <jake1> ok can someone assist me in getting chroot to work
[05:46] <jake1> the websites instructions suxk ass
[05:46] <jake1> suck*
[05:47] <Hawkwind> !nfs
[05:47] <jake1> they are not helping at all
[05:47] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:47] <flaccid> i need to force install a package w/ dpkg
[05:47] <flaccid> what switch should i use
[05:48] <sorush20> Hawkwind: this how to is not using the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo, gui that comes with kde to setup file sharing..
[05:48] <Hawkwind> flaccid: You could try dpkg --force-help
[05:49] <Hawkwind> sorush20: You don't need some silly GUI
[05:49] <flaccid> thanks
[05:49] <flaccid> --ignore-depends worked
[05:50] <Hawkwind> sorush20: You edit the /etc/exports file on the box that has the stuff you want to view.  Mount it on the box you are on and then go to that directory. No GUI needed
[05:50] <ironfroggy_> my router has no "forever" setting for leases
[05:50] <ironfroggy_> it has a number of minutes
[05:50] <ironfroggy_> 0 stands in for 1 day
[05:50] <Hawkwind> You don't need to set anything on your router for internal static
[05:50] <Hawkwind> Atleast I don't
[05:51] <ironfroggy_> how would i set this up for a wireless interface?
[05:52] <ironfroggy_> because i dont want to have a static IP for all networks, just mine.
[05:52] <sorush20> Hawkwind: what is the point of all this then?
[05:52] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22696.
[05:53] <Hawkwind> sorush20: I guess to setup NFS.  But editing one single file, restarting NFS, mounting the directory of your choice is pretty darn simple IMO.  I don't need some GUI app to do that for me when it takes less than 2 minutes
[05:54] <rioux602> How can I edit the smb.conf... it tells me i cant save the file.. like if it's being used.. but i closed samba
[05:54] <sorush20> do I really have to mount?
[05:54] <jake1>  when i am in a building that i know has wireless and i scan for the network how come it doesn't show up
[05:54] <sorush20> will konqueror mount if for me?
[05:54] <TheHighChild> rioux602: You editing as root?
[05:54] <rioux602> yeah
[05:54] <jake1> is there some weird network configuration thing i need to do?
[05:54] <ironfroggy_> instead of static IPs, can i just do something so that each box can lookup the IP of the others by hostname?
[05:55] <ironfroggy_> run a local DNS i guess?
[05:55] <introp> jake1: does the network require a security key to log in (it may have its broadcast disabled, and you need to key to see it)?
[05:55] <Hawkwind> sorush20: You have to mount it to view it.  Without mounting it you can't view anything
[05:55] <jake1> introp: no it shows up on other computers when i scan though
[05:56] <jake1> the scanning does not work no matter where i am
[05:56] <rioux602> TheHighChild: yes
[05:56] <jake1> it does pick up routers though that i am connected to
[05:56] <jake1> well that i have configured in my network settings
[05:56] <TheHighChild> rioux602: Sorry man, that was my only suggestion. Just wanted to make sure. Sorry I have to go
[05:56] <jake1> if i type in 'any' as the ssid in network settings would that do it?
[05:56] <rioux602> ok thanks anyways
[05:57] <introp> jake1: I've not had that problem with the Wireless Assistant.
[05:58] <jake1> i'm using swscanner
[05:58] <jake1> wireless assistant doesn't even work for me
[05:58] <jake1> for some odd reason
[05:58] <jake1> it always quits on me
[05:58] <jake1> when it opens up
[05:59] <sorush20> what is the syntax for mounting..
[05:59] <rioux602> Someone can tell me how to edit SMB.CONF  ?
[05:59] <introp> jake1: I've had one machine that had trouble with the wireless assistant, but I set it up under System Settings (Network), specifying the SSID, WEP key, etc., and it worked.  I think this problem is beyond me.  Sorry.
[05:59] <mshade> jake1, what kind of wireless card?
[06:00] <sorush20> I got it..
[06:01] <jake1> Lucent Technologies
[06:01] <jake1> Silver
[06:01] <jake1> i tried a bunch of cards
[06:01] <flaccid> how can i work out which /dev/device my soundcard/alsa is using?
[06:01] <jake1> and it doesn't work no matter what
[06:01] <introp> rioux602: 'sudo -e smb.conf' or 'sudo vi smb.conf' .. whatever your favorite editor is.
[06:01] <rioux602> ok thx
[06:01] <jake1> i haven't changed my ssid at all in network settings...... i was thinking of changing it to 'any'
[06:01] <jake1> cuz i thought that might work
[06:03] <sorush20> that nfs wiki on ubunt is not for beginners..
[06:03] <sorush20> do I need to setup nis?
[06:03] <rioux602> humhum... my password doesn't work anymore O.o
[06:03] <Darkkish> how do i install an RPM?
[06:03] <ironfroggy> ok can anyone point me towards material about getting local hostnames resolved dynamically?
[06:04] <introp> ironfroggy: do you need them to resolve everywhere, or is manually mapping them to static IPs sufficient?
[06:05] <rioux602> i changed my "user_name" for "root" and my password doesn't work anymore... what can i do ?
[06:05] <ironfroggy> the problem is that the IPs change, so i cant map them manually.
[06:06] <introp> One word: bind -- I've not had to set it up in ages, though.
[06:06] <rioux602> how can i find my pass :(
[06:07] <mshade> rioux602, what did u do exactly?
[06:07] <rioux602> i went in the user panel
[06:08] <rioux602> and i changed my username for "root"
[06:08] <mshade> you mean, you renamed your user to root?
[06:08] <rioux602> yep
[06:08] <mshade> :S
[06:08] <mshade> ok
[06:08] <mshade> uh...
[06:08] <mshade> open a terminal
[06:08] <rioux602> done :)
[06:09] <mshade> whoami
[06:09] <rioux602> root
[06:09] <mshade> gahh
[06:09] <mshade> ok
[06:09] <mshade> su - yourusername
[06:09] <rioux602> su - root ?
[06:10] <rioux602> ?
[06:10] <mshade> no
[06:10] <mshade> su - youroldusername
[06:11] <rioux602> unidentified user
[06:11] <mshade> heh
[06:11] <mshade> ok
[06:11] <mshade> you need to edit /etc/passwd and you will probably find two entries for root
[06:11] <mshade> change the second one back to your old username
[06:11] <mshade> then logout and log back in as your old username
[06:11] <rioux602> ok
[06:11] <mshade> that should fix ya
[06:11] <rioux602> let's see
[06:13] <sorush20> okay.. no I'm stuck sudo mount 192.168.1.102:/home /home/nfs
[06:13] <sorush20> its dosen't work
[06:13] <rioux602> access denied
[06:14] <rioux602> can't set me to"read and write"
[06:14] <rioux602> I can only read
[06:14] <mshade> use sudo
[06:15] <mshade> sudo kate /etc/passwd
[06:15] <rioux602> ok
[06:15] <mshade> or sudo nano /etc/passwd etc
[06:16] <rioux602> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[06:17] <josef> hai everybody
[06:17] <introp> Would usermod let you change your own login without having to sudo?
[06:17] <mshade> introp, i don't know.
[06:17] <josef> does everbody know a program that comvert mp3 to ogg vobis
[06:17] <introp> rioux602: type 'id -u'
[06:18] <mshade> rioux602, unfortunately, i'm a slackware guy -- i dont' know how ubuntu has its sudo stuff set up well enought to help much further.  what you need to do is change your name back to your username in /etc/passwd though
[06:19] <rioux602> 1000
[06:19] <josef> does everbody know a program that convert mp3 to ogg vobis
[06:19] <introp> rioux602: Okay.  Now try 'sudo -u 1000 kate /etc/passwd' -- it may be that two 'root' usernames are confusing it, so we're using your UID.
[06:19] <introp> doh
[06:19] <introp> nevermind.  Smack me.
[06:19] <mshade> josef, i would use mencoder
[06:20] <rioux602> sudo: no passwd entry for 1000!
[06:20] <mshade> heh
[06:20] <introp> Time to go to sleep.  Brain not worky.
[06:20] <mshade> wow
[06:20] <josef> mshade  mencoder thanks i have to try it
[06:20] <mshade> josef, keep in mind though -- it's never good to convert between lossy formats
[06:20] <rioux602> i think i better... smash it over the wall and return on windows.. :'(
[06:20] <ccherrett> I am getting device I/O erros on hda messages when trying my first install of kubuntu. Any ideas?
[06:21] <sorush20> could someone help please?
[06:22] <mshade> rioux602, we might try booting you into recovery mode
[06:22] <mshade> you need a root shell to edit /etc/passwd
[06:22] <rioux602> ok so i reboot in recovery ?
[06:23] <rioux602> brb
[06:25] <ccherrett> anyone have I/O errors on install?
[06:26] <mshade> ccc, only when i have a bad hard drive
[06:26] <mshade> or cDrom
[06:26] <mshade> or CD
[06:26] <ccherrett> mshade: I have tried multiple CDROMS
[06:26] <mshade> multiple drives or CDs?
[06:26] <ccherrett> in windows there was BSoD everywhere
[06:27] <ccherrett> multiple CD drives
[06:27] <mshade> could be your hard drive controller going bad
[06:27] <ccherrett> is that internal to the drive?
[06:27] <ccherrett> anyway to test it?
[06:27] <neddiW> does anyone know if this is available for Kubuntu 6.06? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=volume.png
[06:27] <hivemind> Anyone know how I can activate the international keyboard? I need to type accents for french.
[06:28] <mshade> ccherrett, i meant your IDE host adaptor.  controller is an ambiguous term.
[06:28] <hivemind> With dead keys, and whatnot
[06:28] <mshade> it's ony our motherboard
[06:28] <Hawkwind> neddiW: No.  That's only in Edgy
[06:28] <ccherrett> mshade: that would suck
[06:28] <ccherrett> could it be bad sectors on the drive?
[06:28] <mshade> ccherrett, not likely
[06:28] <mshade> drives know how to route around those now
[06:29] <neddiW> Hawkwind, ok thanx :) let's wait for Edgy then lol
[06:31] <neddiW> Hawkwind, is there something like it for Dapper? kubuntu
[06:32] <Hawkwind> neddiW: AFAIK no there isn't
[06:33] <ironfroggy> what could i look at if videos play at very low framerates at fullscreen?
[06:33] <neddiW> Hawkwind, ok thanks!
[06:35] <Adore> hello
[06:35] <Adore> i need help please
[06:35] <Adore> i want to open this files   wmv
[06:35] <Adore> What program i will install?
[06:36] <stealg> how can i enter in super user in kubuntu i cant know the password
[06:36] <ironfroggy> stealg: use sudo to run individual commands
[06:36] <stealg> tnks
[06:37] <jedi__> how do i switch channels
[06:40] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Behave yourself while I'm away.  I'm heading to bed :P
[06:40] <Jucato> aw...
[06:40] <Jucato> any news from abattoir?
[06:40] <Hawkwind> Nope not tonight
[06:40] <Jucato> ah ok...
[06:41] <Adore> i asked for help
[06:41] <digivore> Transparency usually takes up alot of system resources right?
[06:41] <Jucato> good night Hawkwind! :)
[06:41] <Adore> i want to poen this media files   wmv.
[06:42] <Adore> which program i will install?
[06:42] <Jucato> digivore: depends, if you mean transparency using composite managers
[06:42] <Adore> help me please
[06:42] <Jucato> Adore: you need the w32codecs
[06:42] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[06:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <Adore> Really!!!!
[06:42] <Jucato> follow the instructions in that RestrictedFormats page
[06:42] <josef> hai jucato
[06:42] <Jucato> unless you're on a 64-bit system?
[06:42] <Jucato> hi josef!
[06:42] <CVirus> Adore: for gosh's sakes ... read all this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:43] <Jucato> rawr
[06:43] <Jucato> :)
[06:43] <Adore> Thanks
[06:43] <josef> jucato I manage to install theora thru the adep installer without installing manually
[06:44] <Jucato> ogg theora?
[06:44] <CVirus> gtg
[06:44] <josef> jucato not ogg but the for the wmv
[06:44] <Jucato> oh?
[06:44] <Jucato> ah you used the PLF repositories, perhaps
[06:45] <Adore> i downloading the file
[06:45] <josef> jucato its already made i think for kubuntu.
[06:45] <calcmandan> hello folks
[06:45] <Jucato> it's an unofficial repository, btw
[06:45] <Adore> it's  w32codecs
[06:45] <Adore> when it will be on desktop
[06:45] <Adore> What can i do after that?
[06:45] <josef> jucato but something else i want to convert mp3 to ogg what is the name of the program...
[06:45] <Jucato> Adore: ok, then just right-click on that .deb file then select "Kubuntu Package Menu" then "Install Package"
[06:46] <Jucato> mp32ogg, I think
[06:46] <Adore> Thanks
[06:46] <josef> jucato its the name mp32ogg right
[06:47] <Jucato> that's what I said... but I'm not sure :)
[06:47] <josef> jucato ok then how about DVD to convert to mpeg is there a program too or not sorry for asking to much
[06:48] <Jucato> josef: that I don't know. I don't have a DVD-ROM so I haven't checked that one out
[06:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> josef, there is a program, i can't think of it off the top of my head though
[06:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> check out mplayer and xine
[06:48] <josef> jucato ok thanks
[06:48] <Telroth_Plushie|> i think they have cli paramaters for converting
[06:49] <calcmandan> just a question, i'm just really curious.  there is an antivirus suite for linux, among all other os's, called f-prot.  now, is this really necessary?  please tell me it's not.
[06:49] <josef> telroth ok i check it out the xine and mplayer thanks
[06:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> calcmandan, that is both yes and no
[06:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> my sister can use av and a firewall and get a virus
[06:50] <Jucato> calcmandan: not really necessary, but it wouldn't hurt having one either, but probably more for scanning e-mail attachments than for yourself
[06:50] <calcmandan> telroth thank you.  um, i'm aware that there are viruses in emails it is a good idea to scan for in case you reply to people in windows...
[06:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> i've run windows without firewalls or antivirus for two years
[06:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> in short, it depends on how you do stuff as a user
[06:50] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: how ever did you survive? :)
[06:50] <Jucato> j/k
[06:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jucato, i just did, never got a virus
[06:50] <calcmandan> telroth but there can't be very many viruses written for linux that is really much of a concern is there?  my thought has been that linux is safe from general worry.
[06:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> my habits online were simply clean
[06:51] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: same here. until my sister used my PC....
[06:51] <josef> I didnt use AV  on my windows important is you know where the email came from...
[06:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> calcmandan, it's not viruses that you need to worry about
[06:51] <Jucato> months of hard work keeping my PC immaculately clean... down the drain
[06:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> there's much nastier things called rootkits
[06:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> they are for the most part more rare
[06:51] <calcmandan> right, i'm aware about rootkits.  but are there rootkits really written for linux that doesn't require a root password?
[06:52] <Jucato> josef: but that's not 100% accurate. If someone you know forwarded you an attachment that was infected...
[06:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> uh, the whole point of a rootkit is that it doesn't need a password
[06:52] <Jucato> :)
[06:52] <ccherrett> mshade: I installed a new drive and the install proceeded
[06:52] <calcmandan> i thought it did, at least for linux.
[06:52] <calcmandan> or *nix
[06:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> it gets around the root password so the hacker can access the system
[06:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> the point of a rootkit is to allow easy reentry for a hacker after he's gotten in a system
[06:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> they also wipe logs in an effort to make them undetectable
[06:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> some even patch into the kernel and remove their files from directory listings
[06:53] <josef> jucato yes its thru... but you can recognize on the hidden extension like file.doc.exe
[06:53] <ccherrett> the desktop iso is also the install cd or just a live cd?
[06:54] <josef> jucato yes its true... but you can recognize on the hidden extension like file.doc.exe sorry
[06:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> for the most part, it's just knowing what you system should be doing or shouldn't be doing
[06:54] <Jucato> ccherrett: Desktop CD/ISO is a Live CD + a graphical installer
[06:54] <ccherrett> Jucato: can I use it to do a full install?
[06:54] <calcmandan> i understand how the kernel is affected by rootkits, and how they are relatively impossible to detect in windows at least.  is this something to be threatened about in linux?
[06:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> calcmandan, yes.
[06:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> for example, when I started finding "find /" running from my "nobody" account, i figured it was about time to reinstall linux
[06:55] <Jucato> ccherrett: yep
[06:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> calcmandan, rootkits are actually associated more with *nix than they are windows
[06:55] <ccherrett> so the install icon on the desktop will do the install?
[06:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> yes ccherrett
[06:56] <Jucato> ccherrett: yes
[06:56] <ccherrett> this has gotten too easy
[06:56] <Jucato> :)
[06:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> :)
[06:56] <ccherrett> wow
[06:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> i think mine installed in about 10 minutes
[06:56] <ccherrett> so much for redhat 7.3
[06:56] <Jucato> ccherrett: word of warning: it won't give you an option where to install GRUB
[06:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jucato, that's one thing i found cool
[06:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> it didn't overwrite my current grub install
[06:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> it just added itself
[06:56] <ccherrett> I just need mbr
[06:57] <ccherrett> where does it install to
[06:57] <Jucato> actually it just overwrites whatever is on MBR
[06:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> mine wasn't overwritten o.o
[06:57] <Jucato> but it does a good job of detecting other OS's though
[06:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> unless it went through my old menu.lst and pulled the entries (i had customized names that it is still using)
[06:58] <ccherrett> cool
[06:58] <Jucato> hm... it probably did.
[06:58] <Jucato> it's not something a beginner/regular user would worry about, though. that's probably why they did it that way
[06:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> calcmandan, the answer to your question is rootkits are as much of a worry as viruses are on windows. However, good security practices (don't load ssh on start, don't have passwordless accounts, disable root, etc) will keep the hackers at bay
[06:59] <Jucato> something like "for more options, use the Alternate Install CD"
[06:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> right
[06:59] <Jucato> at least you won't have to worry about root accounts in Kubuntu :)
[07:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> why not?
[07:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's there
[07:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo password root
[07:00] <Jucato> it's disabled by default
[07:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> hacker does that and root is unlocked
[07:00] <Jucato> unless you do that
[07:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> then he just uses root
[07:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> because he knows you don't, you always sudo
[07:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> he knows you'll never check that it's still locked when you sudo
[07:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> night all
[07:01] <Jucato> heh night!
[07:03] <Jucato> wow, there's a GTK/GNOME app named dkop, while there's a KDE technology called dcop :)
[07:08] <nidal> hi all ! Is there any way to restrict the cpu usage by a specific user in linux ?
[07:08] <Adore_> i need help please
[07:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> there is, but i'm not the one to ask about specifics
[07:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> yes Adore?
[07:08] <Adore_> i download the source folder
[07:09] <Jucato> source folder for?
[07:09] <Adore_> and i don't know how can i install it
[07:09] <Adore_> there are two folders
[07:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> names?
[07:09] <Adore_> wiat please
[07:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> i'm trying too :/
[07:09] <Jucato> Adore_: source folder for what?
[07:09] <Adore_> w32codecs_20060611.orig.tar.gz
[07:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> all these people keep asking for help, and i can't say no :P
[07:09] <Jucato> Adore_: not that
[07:09] <Adore_> w32codecs_20060611-1plf1.diff.gz
[07:09] <crimsun> nidal: sure. PAM's limits.conf or bash's ulimit.
[07:09] <Telroth_Plushie|> oh, Adore apt-get install w32codecs didn't work ?
[07:09] <crimsun> and/or, rather
[07:10] <Jucato> Adore_: the instructions specifically said: w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[07:10] <Adore_> i don't try yet
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> try with apt-get first
[07:10] <Adore_> ok
[07:10] <Adore_> thanks M.r
[07:10] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|:  apt-get?
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's the simplest and has the least likelyhood of breaking your system
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jucato, the package manager
[07:10] <Adore_> aha
[07:10] <Adore_> ok
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> on command line
[07:10] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: not unless she has extra unofficial repositories
[07:10] <Adore_> Thank you very much
[07:11] <Jucato> heh that won't work...
[07:11] <Adore_> Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[07:11] <Jucato> told yah
[07:11] <Jucato> :)
[07:11] <Telroth_Plushie|> hey, i just got off of the official debian repos
[07:11] <Telroth_Plushie|> they had it there :P
[07:12] <Jucato> Adore_: go to this web sitte: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/
[07:12] <Adore_> Thanks
[07:12] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: since when did we include the debian repos by default?
[07:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jucato, nono
[07:12] <Jucato> Adore_: then download the file named w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[07:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> the distro i was running up until 4 hours ago
[07:12] <Adore_> ok
[07:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> elive
[07:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> uses the official debian repos
[07:12] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: we don't have that in Ubuntu
[07:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> i know that
[07:12] <Jucato> we use the official Ubuntu repos, which does not have w32codecs
[07:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> but i don't know what the exact package differences are
[07:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> see, i didn't know it doesn't have w32codecs
[07:13] <Jucato> :)
[07:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[07:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> it had kvirce and eclipse and azureus and everything else i've installed so far
[07:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[07:13] <Jucato> that's Debian... :)
[07:13] <Adore_> i like this room and these people
[07:14] <calcmandan> that's just a bummer man. :(
[07:14] <Adore_> when i need help they help me
[07:14] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jucato, no, i'm saying ubuntu has had all the same packages that i've install so far
[07:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> all the ones i'm used to having on my official debian system
[07:15] <Jucato> except for w32codecs, and some DVD stuff..
[07:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> right
[07:15] <calcmandan> telroth: thanks for the replies, i had to run to the living room to eat a hot dinner.  so.  it's really a bummer that I have to be on top of it all in linux.  i mean, above setting things up securely.
[07:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> libdvdcss i'm sure
[07:15] <Jucato> yep
[07:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> calcmandan, it's not all that hard, just common sense
[07:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> and a lot of things are one-time things
[07:16] <draik> Hello Jucato
[07:16] <draik> Good morning
[07:16] <Jucato> draik: ye hi!
[07:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> like disabling startup scripts that can open security holes
[07:16] <draik> sorry, afternoon
[07:16] <Jucato> draik: I was up until 2:30am...
[07:16] <MrBrizzio> does anyone know about configuring IP Filters on a router?
[07:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's midnight here
[07:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[07:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> MrBrizzio, i can't help you there
[07:16] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: CST?
[07:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jucato, yes
[07:16] <Jucato> heh.
[07:17] <draik> MrBrizzio, do you mean Port Forwarding to IPs?
[07:17] <calcmandan> well, i don't have passwordless accounts, i do use sudo of course, i do have ssh-agent running.  i suppose i should not have that running at login
[07:17] <MrBrizzio> draik, I have a Buffalo Router, and I got Port Forwarding working on the NAT page, but I have aURL that points at my network and I can't hit that URL
[07:17] <MrBrizzio> I don't know how to allow echo or bounce back requests
[07:18] <draik> sorry, can't help
[07:18] <MrBrizzio> is that something you would do in IP Filters?
[07:19] <obf213> i dont know if it is just me but firefox has been sucking alot recently
[07:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> obf213, how so?
[07:19] <obf213> it claims to load pages but the original page is sitll there and the links are active and everything
[07:20] <obf213> so il click on a link, the top of the page will change to the nameof the link or w/e the status bar will go to thelike 75 percent, then real quikc to finish and nothing has even changed
[07:20] <obf213> the orignial page is stilll there it was almost rediculous today
[07:20] <obf213> i kept onhavingto go to konqueror
[07:21] <obf213> which worked flawelessly for the most part
[07:24] <obf213> can anyone explain the dynamic ram on kubuntu
[07:24] <obf213> when i log its like 200mb
[07:24] <obf213> ten like 3 hrs later its 800 m b
[07:24] <Jucato> dynamic RAM?
[07:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> obf213, i think you mean swap
[07:24] <obf213> dynamic as it it changes
[07:25] <obf213> no i mean ram.
[07:25] <Jucato> all ram changes...
[07:25] <obf213> all the time, like taht
[07:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> where are you getting these reports?
[07:25] <obf213> htop
[07:25] <obf213> or my widget
[07:25] <obf213> they give the same report
[07:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> htop isn't installed on my machine
[07:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> what does "free -h" say ?
[07:25] <Jucato> maybe he meant top
[07:26] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: there's no -h option in free
[07:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> err, free -m
[07:26] <obf213> 14
[07:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's df that takes a -h option
[07:26] <Jucato> heh
[07:26] <Jucato> :)
[07:26] <obf213> 987 used
[07:26] <obf213> 14 free
[07:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[07:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> Mem:           757        734         23          0         22        494
[07:26] <Jucato> obf213: that's how Linux manages RAM/memory
[07:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> from that
[07:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> i have 757 total mb of ram
[07:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> 734 is used by the system
[07:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> 23 mb aren't being used
[07:27] <obf213> ok, but if you log of and log back on, the 734 should go down right?
[07:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> no
[07:27] <Jucato> obf213: why do you want it to go down?
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> yous ee
[07:28] <obf213> jw why so much is used up
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> 494 mb of that 734 is disk cache
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> ram is much faster than harddrives
[07:28] <Jucato> it's how Linux handles/manages RAM
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> so when you open a file
[07:28] <obf213> ok
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> it keeps a copy in ram
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> that way if you open it again
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> it can pull it from ram
[07:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> and doesn't have to use the (slow) harddrive
[07:29] <obf213> i c
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> if you log out, 494 would still be used
[07:29] <Jucato> !memory
[07:29] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> because it doesn't dump cache when you log out
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> the other 300 would be freed though
[07:29] <Jucato> might want to take a quick look at that link
[07:29] <Jucato> (it's from ubotu...)
[07:29] <obf213> yeah..
[07:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> because it's in use by applications that would exit and stop using the memory on logout
[07:30] <obf213> hey ill check it out thanks
[07:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> if all the memory is in use and an application requests more, linux finds the oldest cache files and removes them to make more room
[07:31] <Jucato> (or uses swap...)
[07:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> so while that 494 is actually in use, it's also available for an application if it needs it
[07:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> swap is like virtual memory
[07:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> it uses your harddrive like a peice of ram ^^
[07:31] <Jucato> swap is virtual memory :)
[07:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> shush you, it's 12:31 at night here, i have to get up in 6 hours
[07:32] <Jucato> lol
[07:32] <Jucato> better turn of that monitor of yours then :)
[07:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> *good
[07:32] <Jucato> goog night! :)
[07:42] <poseidon> That's interesting.... I crashed firefox by search for 'elgooG' in gmail.........
[07:43] <Jucato> poseidon: reproducible? or a one time thing?
[07:43] <poseidon> One-time thing. Probably shouldn't have even said anything :b
[07:43] <Jucato> aw shucks
[07:44] <Jucato> it would be nice though :)
[07:48] <plugs> how do i unmount a drive from the command line?
[07:48] <Jucato> sudo umount <mount point>
[07:48] <Jucato> or  sudo umount <device>
[07:49] <plugs> okay cool. i just got 'not mounted'. my problem is my cd drive, when i changed cds it asked me what to do, the 'open in new window, etc' box and i said cancel and it isnt appearing in storage media
[07:49] <flake> how can i keep from having to insert my ubuntu cd every time i update or install something from the package manager
[07:49] <plugs> i tried to mount it and it says it's already mounted or busy
[07:50] <Jucato> you don't have to mount CD's
[07:50] <plugs> i'll try inserting a different cd
[07:50] <Jucato> flake: edit your sources.list and remove the line that says "deb cdrom......."
[07:51] <flake> ok
[07:51] <Jucato> flake: need instructions on how to do that?
[07:51] <flake> maybe where the file lies
[07:51] <flake>   /etc  would have to look
[07:52] <Jucato> flake: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:52] <Jucato> or you could just do it from Adept
[07:53] <flake> thank you
[07:53] <ccherrett> I install kubuntu with user dennis and password then tried to login and it does not let me in. So I booted into the Live CD and mounted my drive and went to etc/passwd adn I don't see dennis
[07:53] <Jared777> Is there a program to merge 2 partitions in Linux? Tried QTparted and it doesn't allow it
[07:54] <ccherrett> does the Live CD use /dev/hda?
[07:55] <ccherrett> Am I missing something here?
[07:56] <plugs> how do i configure grub?
[07:57] <Jucato> plugs: what do you mean by "configure"?
[07:57] <plugs> well hmm
[07:57] <Jucato> ?
[07:58] <plugs> i added a second hard drive and i want grub to see it and give me the choice of booting from the too
[07:58] <plugs> two*
[07:58] <Jucato> basically you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:59] <Jucato> but making the entries/options to boot from that new hard drive might be a bit complicated
[07:59] <Jucato> what's installed in that 2nd hard drive, btw?
[08:00] <plugs> windows '~'
[08:00] <plugs> xp
[08:00] <Jucato> ah
[08:00] <plugs> is there a way i can reinstall it and have it configure itself?
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, no windows sucks
[08:01] <Jucato> lol
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> and can't write a MBR
[08:01] <Jucato> I guess you have to add it manually? I'm not sure of a shortcut...
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, note those are two different ideas, related but different
[08:02] <plugs> allright i'll see what i can do
[08:02] <plugs> i wish there was a way to do flash in linux
[08:03] <plugs> not counting wine
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, we all do
[08:03] <plugs> =] 
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> we have to wait until "early 2007"
[08:03] <flake> any data i create, eg user data, should be saved under my /home/<user> directory?
[08:03] <flake> kind of an obvious question i guess
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> flake, yes
[08:04] <Jucato> yes
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> ~ is also /home/<user>
[08:04] <flake> under windows, i save files everywhere
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> so if you ever see something that says ~/.kde or something
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> thats what that means
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> flake, windows saves filse everywhere to
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> like temporary files... linux has /tmp
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> and thats all you need
[08:05] <Jucato> flake: not really. by default, Windows would save your files in you user's directory/folder too
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, note he said I and not windows
[08:06] <Jucato> I'm not done yet typing the follow up sentence Admiral_Chicago
[08:06] <Jucato> I'm not exactly a fast typer like you...
[08:07] <Jucato> :(
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, haha. switch to dvorak
[08:07] <Jucato> nvm
[08:13] <flake> true - came from a dos background, found it hard to convert to windows and be happy
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> flake, yea i enjoy the KDE GUI much more
[08:14] <plugs> grub is confusing m
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> plugs, i can't help, i don't do much grub stuff
[08:16] <ccherrett> anyone ever experienced their user not being entered by the install
[08:20] <flake> i'm glad ea finally released 1.4, now to test the pos
[08:20] <flake> goin chink and redneck huntin
[08:21] <flake> and isblahisblahala huntin too
[08:21] <flake> - counting down the days until quakewars et
[08:25] <plugs> flake what are you freakin talking about
[08:25] <plugs> oh he's gone
[08:25] <Jucato> heh
[08:27] <plugs> !grub
[08:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:31] <thyko> is there such a thing as 'apt-get --reconfigure -a'?
[08:31] <Jucato> er.. dpkg --configure -a
[08:31] <Jucato> or "apt-get install -f" I think, but I'm not sure
[08:33] <thyko> dpkg-reconfigure insists it cant find strict.pm :(
[08:33] <thyko> and its right there in its path
[08:33] <Jucato> dpkg-reconfigure?
[08:34] <thyko> got it from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7103.html
[08:34] <Jucato> what are you trying to do, btw?
[08:35] <thyko> i ran clearlinks and it fakt up my system
[08:35] <thyko> the automatic usb-stic detection among other things no longer works
[08:36] <Jucato> did you upgrade to KDE 3.5.4?
[08:36] <thyko> i'm hoping by doing this i will have it working normally again
[08:36] <thyko> no
[08:37] <Jucato> I don't think that dpkg-reconfigure is the proper way to do it though. but I have no idea about clearlinks, so...
[08:37] <thyko> Jucato: well just dont run it as root
[08:38] <Jucato> I'll keep that in mind...
[08:38] <thyko> i dont know why they would put a prog in there that ruins your sys without warning
[08:38] <Jucato> maybe it's just used improperly...
[08:38] <thyko> its supposed to clear dead symbolic links, but it does other stuff too
[08:39] <thyko> Jucato: check out the man page, see whether theres a way to use it improperly
[08:40] <Jucato> ah cleanlinks?
[08:40] <Jucato> hmm let me see
[08:40] <Jucato> "A message will be printed upon encountering each dangling symlink and empty directory."
[08:40] <evilredhed> should i be able to dual boot between kubuntu and slax?
[08:41] <evilredhed> on the same hd partition?
[08:41] <Jucato> not on the same partition
[08:41] <thyko> Jucato: true
[08:41] <Jucato> on the same hd, on different partitions
[08:41] <Jucato> thyko: so you were asked to confirm before removing the dangling symlink?
[08:41] <evilredhed> cool tx
[08:41] <thyko> nop
[08:42] <thyko> 'without warning' remember?
[08:43] <Jucato> well, probably if you're root... but I can't see anything in the man page about "without warning"...
[08:43] <thyko> that was my way of putting it
[08:43] <Jucato> anyway... it might have removed something from the /media directory?
[08:44] <thyko> and about 10 entries in etc/init.d/
[08:45] <chris_> so, I have a question. if I were to do a server install with the alternate disc and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop...would that be the same as a straight up kubuntu installation?
[08:45] <AegeanLinux> chris_: somewhat
[08:46] <chris_> basically, im looking to do a very minimal kde install...
[08:46] <Jucato> chris_: if you want a very very minimal kde install, just install kde-core instead
[08:47] <Jucato> server install + x-windows-system-core + kde-core
[08:47] <chris_> so just apt-get install kde-core
[08:47] <AegeanLinux> chris_: sudo apt-get install kde-base
[08:47] <chris_> ?
[08:47] <chris_> thanks
[08:47] <Jucato> well, kdebase is even smaller than kde-core
[08:47] <AegeanLinux> that will install nothing except for the K menu and a few basic apps
[08:47] <AegeanLinux> don't forget to install Adapt if you want to do admin from a GUI ;)
[08:47] <Jucato> ryanakca: hi
[08:47] <Jucato> (or Synaptic...)
[08:47] <AegeanLinux> synaptic == Gnome no ?
[08:48] <Jucato> but works well on KDE as well
[08:48] <AegeanLinux> true, but doesn't 'fit in'
[08:48] <Jucato> you have a choice of package managers: Adept, KPackage, Synaptic
[08:48] <Jucato> you can easily make it "fit in" ifyou're only talking about appearances...
[08:49] <AegeanLinux> Fit in as in KDE exclusive environment :)
[08:49] <AegeanLinux> no GTK2 or GTK installed :)
[08:49] <Jucato> ok, if you mean it that way...
[08:50] <AegeanLinux> Not that I don't like Gnome
[08:50] <Jucato> hm.. actually... Adept is dependent on app-install-data... which is a GNOME thing (AFAIK)
[08:50] <AegeanLinux> well, I don't
[08:50] <AegeanLinux> but, KDE is better :P
[08:50] <AegeanLinux> I thought it was freedesktop.org
[08:50] <bele> Hi everyone, I'm having problems with firefox: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22704
[08:50] <AegeanLinux> Gamin (a fam replacement) is also a Gnome thing
[08:51] <chris_> so, server install + "sudo apt-get install x-windows-system-core kde-base" would be the most minimal kde install?
[08:51] <AegeanLinux> I mean all things that depend on gtk2 / gtk gnome :P
[08:51] <Jucato> chris_: kdebase is the most minimal, but I think kde-core is better...
[08:51] <chris_> Jucato: better?
[08:51] <Jucato> you can check what kdebase installs versus what kde-core installs by typing "apt:/" in Konqueror
[08:52] <evilredhed> bele: i found a file that automated the install process, let me see if i can dig up where i found it
[08:52] <evilredhed> not to sure what all that jargon means
[08:53] <bele> evilredhed: Thanks, but firefox kind of works
[08:54] <bioticpro> how do you auto scroll webpages in konq?
[08:54] <bele> evilredhed: It is already installed here .. it just outputs these error messages
[08:54] <evilredhed> bele: sweet. im a total noob but try to help people anyway cuz im an idiot
[08:54] <chris_> Jucato: I dont have access to konqeror. any idea on the difference?
[08:54] <bele> evilredhed: Thanks anyway :)
[08:54] <Jucato> bioticpro: it's enabled by default
[08:54] <ryan_> whats the major differences between KDE and Gnome
[08:54] <Jucato> chris_: you can try apt-cache show kde-core and apt-cache show kdebase
[08:55] <bioticpro> Jucato: ok, maybe what Im thinking of is something different... how do you make the page start scrolling up or down without having to keep a button pressed?
[08:55] <Jucato> bioticpro: with the mouse?
[08:56] <bioticpro> yeah, or keyboard.. whatever, just a way to start it scrolling and adjust the speed
[08:57] <bioticpro> I miss that feature from windows, where you could click the middle mouse wheel and bring up that little 4 arrow icon for scrolling
[08:57] <Jucato> bioticpro: in Konqueror, go to Settings > Configure Konqueror > Web Behavior
[08:57] <Jucato> bioticpro: then uncheck "Middle click opens URL in selecction"
[08:58] <chris_> thanks Jucato
[08:58] <chris_> appreciate it
[08:58] <Jucato> :)
[08:58] <bioticpro> Jucato: Yowsa!
[08:58] <bioticpro> Ive been using linux for 2 years and wanted to do this...
[08:58] <bioticpro> thx big time
[08:58] <Jucato> heh no problem :)
[08:59] <bioticpro> that should be the default mode... esp for windows converts
[08:59] <evilredhed> hey is it easy to get spanish installed for the openoffice.org stuff?
[08:59] <Jucato> ... maybe one day :)
[09:00] <bioticpro> Jucato: now if only there were a way to set the middle click action for all kde programs
[09:01] <Jucato> that autoscroll action?
[09:03] <bele> bioticpro: you know you can also, with keyboard, click shift + down arrow to scroll down the web page ... several clicks to adjust speed
[09:03] <bioticpro> bele: thats nice also, thx
[09:03] <Jucato> hehe but that takes a bit of getting used to... I feel like I'm driving a car in an arcade game...
[09:04] <bele> so true
[09:04] <Jucato> you have to remember to hold the shift key down when adjusting the speed, but to let it go and press the cursor to stop...
[09:04] <bioticpro> Jucato: well, also I would like to customize the action for clicking middle mouse button in all of kde/x, like to open a program with it
[09:04] <Jucato> It also doesn't do auto-reverse :)
[09:05] <bele> but very nice when your hands are on keyboard :)
[09:05] <Jucato> ah
[09:06] <timi> y does wmv look so washed out and terrible on linux
[09:06] <timi> like totem player and kaffiene
[09:07] <bele> timi: maybe just adjust brightness and contrast?
[09:07] <bele> timi: defaults for some reason seem to be "burned"
[09:07] <timi> bele where do i adjust this
[09:08] <timi> abbatoir any idea
[09:09] <diego_cl> hi
[09:09] <abattoir> timi: !!!
[09:09] <bele> timi: press button V
[09:09] <abattoir> timi: long time no see :)
[09:09] <bele> timi:  in kaffeine
[09:09] <diego_cl> which is the fastest distro with the best compatibility !??!?!
[09:09] <abattoir> timi: didnt see your question
[09:10] <bele> timi: pour avoir video settings
[09:10] <evilredhed> xubuntu + packaged
[09:10] <bele> timi: sorry, to have video settings
[09:10] <timi> yeah its been a while, i think bele's got it but i was wondering why wmv looks so faded out and bright in kaffein and totem
[09:11] <abattoir> timi: only wmv? or any video?
[09:11] <timi> wmv,
[09:11] <timi> i just fixed it the in kaffeine
[09:11] <diego_cl> evilredhed : are you talking to me?
[09:11] <timi> thanks bele im going to check the firefox plugin
[09:11] <evilredhed> diego_cl: lol, yea
[09:11] <bele> timi: no problem
[09:11] <diego_cl> evilredhed thanks
[09:12] <timi> yeah it fixed both of them thanks
[09:12] <evilredhed> diego_cl: sure man, i hope thats what you were looking for
[09:12] <calcmandan> hey yall, i screwed up.
[09:13] <calcmandan> i installed a KDM theme.  Restarted KDE and it gave me an error stating: "theme not usable with authentication method 'Username + password (classic)'  ANyone know a command line method to changing the config file to point to a good theme?
[09:14] <diego_cl> evilredhed what is packaged ??
[09:14] <calcmandan> The instruction on the theme page in kde-look.org points to a file that doesn't exist in kubuntu.
[09:14] <Jucato> calcmandan: edit the file /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?
[09:15] <evilredhed> diego_cl: i misstyped, i meant packages, just download what u need for what u got
[09:15] <diego_cl> ahhh
[09:16] <diego_cl> evilredhed: what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ??
[09:17] <bioticpro> diego_cl: gnome vs kde as desktop
[09:17] <evilredhed> diego_cl: as far as i know, kubuntu uses a dif. desktop and there are a couple other software differances
[09:17] <calcmandan> jucato: thank you.  i have 3 themes in the theme manager.  what line dictates the theme used?
[09:17] <evilredhed> diego_cl: but the operating sys is the same
[09:17] <bioticpro> also, ubuntu is far more polished and bugfree than kubuntu
[09:17] <evilredhed> or it might as well be anyway
[09:17] <diego_cl> sorry!!!   y mean what us the difference with ubuntu and xubuntu  ! ! !
[09:17] <Jucato> calcmandan: Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu <--- default theme
[09:17] <bioticpro> diego_cl: gnome vs xfce
[09:18] <bioticpro> as desktop
[09:18] <diego_cl> ahh
[09:18] <diego_cl> is there any inconvineance with xfce ?
[09:18] <diego_cl> is there something worse  ?
[09:18] <Jucato> well, the new Xfce file manager (Thunar) is still a bit new, and doesn't have that much features yet.
[09:19] <Jucato> for example, it only got a very basic trash management feature only recently
[09:19] <calcmandan> kucato: THANK YOU SO MUCH
[09:19] <Jucato> :)
[09:19] <calcmandan> jucato: sorry for the misspelling.  I was ripping my hair out.  fior some reason, my favorite distro seems to put the config files where they make sense.
[09:20] <Jucato> heh :) no problem
[09:20] <leileilol> hi
[09:20] <leileilol> i've tried to install kqemu and on the last step i've hit a snag
[09:20] <leileilol>  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/modules.alias', which is also i
[09:20] <leileilol> n package linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[09:20] <diego_cl> bye!
[09:21] <leileilol> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu was following this
[09:26] <leileilol> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/784801
[09:47] <ccherrett> how do you change the root password in kubuntu?
[09:47] <ccherrett> it did not prompt me to set it on install
[09:48] <Jucato> ccherrett: the root user is disabled by default in Kubuntu
[09:48] <ccherrett> ??
[09:48] <Jucato> the first user you create can have administrator privileges when needed
[09:48] <ccherrett> it is prompting me for a password for sudo
[09:48] <Jucato> when it asks for the Administrator's/root password, you give your password
[09:48] <Jucato> !sudo
[09:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:49] <ccherrett> ok so the created user has root access
[09:49] <Jucato> only when using sudo or kdesu
[09:49] <Jucato> after the job is finished, (or after a few minutes after the job is finished) you lose that access
[09:49] <ccherrett> ok that worked
[09:49] <ccherrett> thanks
[09:50] <ccherrett> why do they do that?
[09:50] <Jucato> you can read more about sudo in that link
[09:50] <ccherrett> ok
[10:03] <Ant1_^> what means semicolons?
[10:03] <Ant1_^> it's a character?
[10:04] <Jucato> huh?
[10:04] <Ant1_^> yes I have found
[10:04] <Ant1_^> it's ;
[10:04] <Ant1_^> :)
[10:05] <Jucato> ah
[10:15] <ccherrett> any idea how to get sshd to run as a service? rc-update?
[10:22] <dnm_> Hi people. Quick question that I haven't found an easy answer to: how do I get Kate to stop showing end-of-line/CRLF marks?
[10:22] <wilfred> dnm_: why do you want to hide them?
[10:23] <ccherrett> how do you get a service to start automatically in kubuntu?
[10:23] <dnm_> wilfred: They're distracting when trying to edit and read files.
[10:23] <wilfred> ccherrett: I use BUM (apt-get install bum)
[10:24] <dnm_> wilfred: They're also easily confused with periods, which bugs me
[10:24] <ccherrett> wilfred: is that new?
[10:24] <wilfred> new to me :-) BUM = Boot-Up Manager
[10:24] <ccherrett> thanks
[10:28] <dnm_> wilfred: any ideas?
[10:28] <wilfred> dnm: I'm not sure. Does it happen on all types of highlighting?
[10:32] <ccherrett> wilfred: bum is not showing up with apt-get and the deb from the site does not install due to dependancies. Any idea how to get sshd to start without bum? /etc.ini.d/ssh start works but how to sutorun that?
[10:32] <Jucato> !bum
[10:32] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:33] <wilfred> do you have univese repositories enables jucato?
[10:33] <Jucato> err... why me?
[10:33] <wilfred> ahem - sorry
[10:33] <Jucato> :D
[10:33] <wilfred> ccherrett: you'll need the universe repositories enabled to install bum
[10:34] <ccherrett> wilfred: I have never heard of that
[10:34] <ccherrett> anyidea where to look
[10:34] <ccherrett> ubotu: thanks
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <wilfred> ok. go to /etc/apt/ in konqueror, right click sources.list and hit edit as root
[10:36] <ccherrett> wilfred: done
[10:36] <wilfred> then remove the # from the lines that say "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" and "deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" and save
[10:36] <wilfred> then apt-get install bum
[10:37] <Jucato> hm... wilfred, probably best to leave the deb-src uncommented if not needed. it lessens the time of sudo apt-get update...
[10:37] <yannux> hello :)
[10:38] <fildo_> lol @ bum
[10:38] <wilfred> true. not a big deal though. For someone who's being using linux 2 weeks, I'm getting there :-)
[10:38] <Jucato> :)
[10:39] <fildo_> apt-get rox
[10:39] <ccherrett> wilfred: thanks
[10:39] <fildo_> n congrats in makin the change
[10:39] <Jucato> fildo_: E: Invalid operation. hehehe! :)
[10:39] <fildo_> one more less m$ user makes the world a better place
[10:40] <fildo_> lol
[10:40] <wilfred> thx fildo_. I got hold of a very cheap pc for my first install to avoid setting up a dual boot
[10:40] <fildo_> my source.lists muse be incorrect
[10:40] <fildo_> e =t
[10:40] <fildo_> wlfred. dual boot is easy as
[10:40] <Jucato> dual boot is easy, triple boot is fun :)
[10:40] <fildo_> lol
[10:41] <wilfred> just windows for games now really.
[10:41] <fildo_> Jucato: fc5 / kubuntu / m$
[10:41] <fildo_> on one lappy ...
[10:41] <Jucato> Kubuntu / Kubuntu / MS :)
[10:41] <fildo_> sweet..
[10:41] <Jucato> err..
[10:42] <Jucato> Dapper / Edgy / MS
[10:42] <wilfred> I'd like to have a play with gentoo at some point, need a bigger hd :-/
[10:42] <fildo_> lol
[10:42] <fildo_> im only on 80gig here
[10:42] <wilfred> 15 :-P
[10:42] <fildo_> lol ..
[10:42] <Jucato> hehe 80 Gig, but XP is on a 20 GB disk of it's own.
[10:42] <Jucato> I don't want contamination :)
[10:43] <fildo_> there wouldnt be
[10:43] <fildo_> unless ur fingers do something wrong
[10:43] <wilfred> xp can mess up grub I'm told
[10:43] <fildo_> but i guess, *nix dosnt use any m$ permissions
[10:43] <fildo_> or read erm, so yes, contamination,
[10:43] <Jucato> (or my sister appliex her magical hex powers that seem to have the ability to damage any computer system)
[10:43] <fildo_> ah
[10:43] <fildo_> affirmatus on that one, have an older brother who dose that for me
[10:44] <fildo_> i just permission windows boxes. n limit them as users
[10:44] <fildo_> so they cant fukin touch nething unless i do it
[10:44] <Jucato> I did that... but some programs didn't work. so I just gave her full access and told her that she's responsible for XP from that day on
[10:44] <fildo_> write permission scripts
[10:44] <wilfred> anyway, can anyone help me install kerry? I've built beagle from source but kerry keeps complaining about missing dependencies
[10:45] <Jucato> :)
[10:45] <fildo_> not just the basic *limit user in control pannel
[10:45] <fildo_> ha
[10:45] <fildo_> neways enough gay windows talk
[10:45] <fildo_> brb
[10:45] <Jucato> lol
[10:54] <wilfred> can anyone tell me how to install a .deb package without its dependencies?
[10:55] <Jucato> er.. you can't...
[10:55] <Jucato> you need to install it's dependencies first, one by one...
[10:55] <wilfred> grrr. I've built beagle from source and kerry doesn't think beagle is installed
[10:55] <Jucato> and if those dependencies have other dependencies, you have to install them as well..
[10:56] <ketsugi> wilfred: use checkinstall
[10:56] <ketsugi> `sudo checkinstall` instead of `sudo make install`
[10:56] <Jucato> er...
[10:56] <Healot> wilfred: is there any build option to point out beagle location?
[10:56] <ketsugi> then for the package name, make sure it's "beagle" or whatever the official package name is
[10:56] <Jucato> ketsugi: <wilfred> can anyone tell me how to install a .deb package without its dependencies?
[10:56] <ketsugi> that way apt will know you've got the right package installed even if you compiled from source
[10:56] <Jucato> ah
[10:56] <Jucato> ok
[10:56] <Jucato> my bad sorry ketsugi :)
[10:56] <ketsugi> Jucato: yes, but his problem is that he installed beagle NOT through apt
[10:57] <ketsugi> yeah
[10:57] <vmware> how do use join?
[10:57] <Jucato> vmware:  /join #channel_name
[10:57] <ketsugi> in any case, there might be a --force option he can use
[10:57] <Healot> fff /join
[10:57] <vmware> gracias
[10:57] <ketsugi> but I wouldn't recommend that unless he's absolutely sure he's got all the dependencies installed already
[10:57] <wilfred> I do.
[10:58] <wilfred> I've installed an old version of beagle before, beagle is running, just kerry won't install.
[10:58] <ketsugi> well I'd say do the checkinstall method to be safe
[10:58] <ketsugi> it also makes it easy for you to uninstall your custom package later if you need to
[10:59] <wilfred> the problem with checkinstall is it produces packages with wrong arch type (x86_64 instead of amd64) and lintian produces loads of errors for the package
[11:00] <ketsugi> you can change that, can't you?
[11:00] <ketsugi> well I dunno, I'm on 686 myself
[11:00] <wilfred> the arch, yes. They're just two different names for the same arch. I have to change it if I want to install it though.
[11:01] <wilfred> but lintian produced about 50 errors for the package
[11:03] <Healot> try dh_make instead
[11:03] <Healot> then you can customize the arch
[11:03] <wilfred> dh_make?
[11:04] <Healot> i forgot the package name, but you can always find it at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <Healot> it generates the debian rules thing, you know...
[11:04] <Healot> then use checkinstall
[11:06] <wilfred> what package is it in? packages.ubuntu.com doesn't give any results
[11:07] <Healot> it's a file on one specific package
[11:08] <Healot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/dh-make >> fast isn;t it?
[11:08] <Healot> i hve the bookmark :)
[11:08] <Jucato> lol
[11:08] <wilfred> ok, a dash not an underscore :-)
[11:09] <Healot> the package name has dash
[11:09] <Healot> the file has _ underscore
[11:09] <cox377> does anyone hae any idea what KDE would restart on it's own?
[11:09] <cox377> its been happening for a few days when i'm away from the computer
[11:09] <cox377> then it just did it when i was sitting there
[11:09] <cox377> i thought previously it was just the computer restarting
[11:10] <magical_trevsky> hi, can anyone help me install the new amarok? i've put the error that i'm getting from apt here: www.magic.net.ve/amarok.txt
[11:10] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: you're trying to install version 1.4.3?
[11:10] <magical_trevsky> Jucato, yeah, the one on the front page of kubuntu.org
[11:11] <Jucato> did you enable the "dapper-backports" repository, like it said?
[11:12] <magical_trevsky> Jucato, i've managed to install ktorrent and stuff- which it says are in backports, so i believe so.. and i downloaded the other version of amarok that's on kubuntu.org the other day with no problems
[11:13] <magical_trevsky> Jucato, i have these lines in my sources.list:
[11:13] <magical_trevsky>  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted univ$
[11:13] <magical_trevsky>  deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted $
[11:14] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: hmm...
[11:14] <Jucato> hold on, let me check something
[11:16] <pedro> hi all I am using synaptic to install a desktop recording program called istanbul. It require som dependencies like gstreamer. Synaptic downloaded the packages and started to install and set them up. now it's just sitting there doing nothing. It seems to be stuck at "Setting up libgstreamer-gconf0.8-0 (0.8.12-1ubuntu2) ...". I'm afraid to interupt Synaptic. What should I do?
[11:17] <Jucato> pedro: you are doing this in Kubuntu?
[11:18] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: I'm not absolutely sure on this, but it might be that Amarok 1.4.3 needs at least KDE 3.5.3 to install.
[11:18] <pedro> Jucato: well. actually I'm using mepis 6.0
[11:18] <magical_trevsky> ah, so i guess i need to add the new kde repo then. cool, thanks :)
[11:18] <Jucato> pedro: err... :)
[11:19] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: I'm still checking if that's really the problem
[11:19] <magical_trevsky> heh, ok
[11:19] <pedro> Jucato: same same, but different
[11:21] <pedro> Is it safe to just kill Synaptic when it is still havent finnished its task?
[11:21] <Jucato> pedro: no repsonse from #mepis? anyway, is Synaptic waiting for you to confirm something?
[11:21] <Jucato> pedro: you probably could, the "dpkg --configure -a" in the terminal
[11:21] <ubuntu> Hello to all
[11:22] <pedro> Jucato: no it just stuck on "Setting up libgstreamer-gconf0.8-0 (0.8.12-1ubuntu2) ..."
[11:22] <Jucato> pedro: I guess you have no choice then?
[11:22] <pedro> Jucato:  Can I do "dpkg --configure -a" when synaptic is still running
[11:22] <Jucato> pedro: no
[11:23] <pedro> Jucato: no, your right
[11:23] <Jucato> :)
[11:23] <pedro> Jucato: oki, thanks anyway :)
[11:23] <Jucato> pedro: you could probably also try asking in #mepis?
[11:23] <magical_trevsky> Jucato, i'm gonna install the new kde anyways, no harm in updating :D
[11:23] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: ok. best of luck! :)
[11:24] <magical_trevsky> thanks!
[11:25] <pedro> Jucato: yes I did, no respons so far, not many people there right now. I will try #mepislovers as well. tnx
[11:25] <Jucato> ok
[11:27] <AcidBen> hi
[11:27] <AcidBen> i search after the kubuntu DVD version,and the FTP dont accept anonymous logon
[11:28] <AcidBen> and the link on kubuntu mirror (with login and pas) dont work too
[11:30] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: are you upgrading KDE now?
[11:30] <magical_trevsky> Jucato, yep, although 80 packages were held back :o
[11:30] <Jucato> hmm..
[11:30] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.3 or 3.5.4?
[11:30] <magical_trevsky> 3.5.4
[11:31] <daniloc> i need a best program for wireless configuration :)
[11:31] <Jucato> ah you need to do dist-upgrade for that
[11:31] <Jucato> (and prepare for some "issues")
[11:31] <magical_trevsky> :O such as?
[11:31] <magical_trevsky> ive only done upgrade so far.. will that cause any problems?
[11:31] <daniloc> i have a wireless assistant but is very bad ;(
[11:31] <Jucato> the Configuration Wizard (KPersonalizer) starting up everytime you log in (easily remedied)
[11:32] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: you need to continue with dist-upgrade, otherwise you'll have dependency problems
[11:32] <magical_trevsky> mkay
[11:33] <Jucato> going afk...
[11:33] <magical_trevsky> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[11:33] <magical_trevsky>   kdelibs-bin
[11:33] <magical_trevsky>  :o
[11:33] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: yes that's ok
[11:33] <Jucato> I was about to tell you about it
[11:33] <magical_trevsky> lol
[11:33] <Jucato> it's ok to remove it
[11:34] <magical_trevsky> it's downloading all its stuff now, and amarok is in the list :D
[11:34] <Jucato> can I go  now? :)
[11:34] <Jucato> heh nice
[11:34] <pointwood> anyone know of an update in regards to the backports?
[11:34] <magical_trevsky> thanks for all your help Jucato :)
[11:34] <Jucato> pointwood: what about it?
[11:34] <pointwood> there were some problems with the build system
[11:34] <pointwood> == no updates
[11:35] <Healot> i
[11:35] <Jucato> aah.... for which package again?
[11:35] <pointwood> among them is konversation 1.0
[11:35] <Healot> been thinking of installing kubuntu tonight he
[11:35] <Jucato> pointwood: let me check (again...)
[11:35] <pointwood> I would guess the new amarok release would be there soon too :)
[11:35] <Healot> for whatever reason, i haven't install 6.06 yet
[11:35] <Jucato> pointwood: Amarok 1.4.2 is in dapper-backports (magically...)
[11:36] <Jucato> Amarok 1.4.3 is in Kubuntu.org, but you need dapper-backports enabled
[11:36] <pointwood> Jucato: is there a place where the status is posted so I could check it myself?
[11:36] <pointwood> I have dapper backports enabled
[11:37] <pointwood> my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22611
[11:37] <Jucato> pointwood: I'm manually going through the archives, but you could "apt-cache madison konversation" to see the available versions. the one at the top is the one installed (I think)
[11:37] <Jucato> pointwood: nope. no luck...
[11:38] <pointwood> yeah, I can see konversation 1.0 there
[11:38] <pointwood> with that apt-cache command above
[11:38] <Jucato> pointwood: ah
[11:38] <Jucato> thought you still didn't have it installed...
[11:39] <Emess> anyone know of a similar project that ports osx code to nix?
[11:39] <pointwood> Jucato: I don't, I have .19 installed
[11:39] <pointwood> but at the bottom it says "konversation | 1.0-0ubuntu1~dapper1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Sources"
[11:39] <Jucato> ah there
[11:39] <Jucato> try updating then upgrade
[11:39] <pointwood> I just did :)
[11:43] <pointwood> Jucato: there are no updates
[11:43] <pointwood> which is wierd imho
[11:46] <Jucato> very weird...
[11:47] <Jucato> i'm outta here!
[12:13] <en1gma> sup all
[12:13] <en1gma> i have a kubuntu dvd laying right here and im not sure if its a 64bit version or 32bit....how can i tell
[12:13] <en1gma> i need to know for sure cause i have a spare computer system that is 32bit
[12:13] <en1gma> i thinking boutght putting it on that
[12:14] <rdfm> hi *, I'm having problems installing amarok-1.4.3
[12:14] <magical_trevsky> en1gma, is it a shipit cd (one of the free ones)?
[12:14] <en1gma> dloaded one
[12:14] <en1gma> its 6.06
[12:15] <en1gma> when it autoplays
[12:15] <magical_trevsky> ah
[12:15] <rdfm> I think the problem is due to not having the kde 3.5.4 repository in sources.list
[12:15] <magical_trevsky> rdfm, i just had that problem, and the new kde fixed it :)
[12:15] <rdfm> so I'm upgrading now but maybe it should be spelled out on the new amarok package page that it's a requirement ;)
[12:16] <en1gma> i think its the 64bit version
[12:16] <rdfm> who should I contact and harrass for it?
[12:16] <rdfm> ;)
[12:27] <bill__> so, I want to upgrade to kde 354. I added the repos and the key. I also sudo apt-get update and upgrade as well as dist-upgrade. but still no 354. I have 352. any ideas?
[12:29] <en1gma> anyone got a quake 4 server they setup b4
[12:29] <gnomefreak> bill__: apt-cache policy kdebase
[12:29] <en1gma> just got a Q about the dedicated server
[12:29] <Faed> I ran a quake3 server years ago.
[12:29] <en1gma> do you have to install all of Q4 too besides the server file
[12:29] <bill__> gnomefreak: thanks. now what?
[12:30] <en1gma> i got a Q3 server up (well the computer is off so it not u right now)
[12:30] <en1gma> :)
[12:30] <Faed> you need the map data
[12:30] <en1gma> damn i cant believe i have to have all that there too
[12:30] <en1gma> my hd is only 4gig
[12:30] <en1gma> lol
[12:30] <Faed> well, how would you do it? ;)
[12:30] <Faed> the server has to know more than the clients do to provide the game.
[12:30] <en1gma> ive seen some servers (dedicated) that do not need all that
[12:30] <en1gma> example is fear
[12:31] <en1gma> fear just has a server file
[12:31] <gnomefreak> bill__: what does it say
[12:31] <en1gma> saves alot of space
[12:31] <en1gma> got a fear server too
[12:31] <bill__> bill@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase
[12:31] <bill__> kdebase:
[12:31] <bill__>   Installed: (none)
[12:31] <bill__>   Candidate: 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper2
[12:31] <bill__>   Version table:
[12:31] <bill__>      4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper2 0
[12:31] <bill__>         500 http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[12:31] <bill__>      4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0
[12:31] <bill__>         500 http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[12:31] <Faed> it must be multicast.
[12:31] <bill__>      4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 0
[12:31] <bill__>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages
[12:31] <bill__>      4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26 0
[12:31] <bill__>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[12:31] <Faed> jfc
[12:31] <Faed> don't do that.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> bill__: you can stop pasteing nowe
[12:31] <Faed> pastebin, pls
[12:32] <en1gma> ever here of pastebin
[12:32] <bill__> sorry
[12:32] <gnomefreak> bill__: sudo apt-get update
[12:32] <gnomefreak> bill__: when its done let me know
[12:32] <bill__> done
[12:32] <en1gma> well i guess i S.O.L with Q4 then
[12:32] <gnomefreak> bill__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <bill__> hmm  I'm trying to avoid that. I did a server install + kdebase...I'd like to avoid alot of the packages that come with kubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <Faed> why? a 200G disk would cost less than the game does.
[12:34] <en1gma> well its a spare computer and dont really want to put anything into it
[12:34] <Faed> kde is a ratsnest of interdependencies.
[12:34] <en1gma> i do have a Q3 and a fear server on it
[12:34] <en1gma> but would have liked to had Q4 too
[12:34] <en1gma> but o well
[12:35] <Faed> if you install a handful of kde applications, you'll get kubuntu-desktop in pieces anyhow.
[12:35] <bill__> true.
[12:36] <bill__> ok I think I got it
[12:36] <bill__> about kde shows 354 now
[12:37] <gnomefreak> bill__: apt-cache policy kdebase-bin should show you that
[12:37] <bill__> yup it does
[12:37] <bill__> thanks
[12:42] <rosemary> hi just installed kubuntu for another try but can't remember how to set up the repsoitories to download other packages eg firefox
[12:46] <Mortice> !info mozilla-firefox
[12:46] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:46] <rosemary> I need to reset repositories but get messgae "line commented out because installer failed to verify" - can anyone help please
[12:47] <Mortice> rosemary: could you pastebot your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[12:48] <rosemary> Mortice, I am on another PC but it seems to be empty - I installed without network access at the time
[12:49] <Mortice> rosemary: it shouldn't be empty, even if you installed without network access. it should refer to the installation CD ROM, at least
[12:49] <rosemary> it says /etc/apt/sources.list.d Mort
[12:50] <rosemary> sorry Mortice
[12:50] <joker_> sup
[12:51] <Mortice> rosemary: what says that? what's the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[12:53] <rosemary> Mortice, gives me the message "line commented out by installer because it failed to verify" and goes on to list the repositories and repeating the Line commented out bit each time
[12:53] <rosemary> Mortice, does kubuntu have midnight commander?
[12:53] <Mortice> rosemary: ah, ok. that "line commented out bit" isn't a message. it's part of the file
[12:54] <Mortice> rosemary: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # symbol from the start of every line that begins with 'deb' or 'deb-src'
[12:54] <Mortice> !info mc
[12:54] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[12:55] <Mortice> rosemary: it does if you enable the universe repository :)
[12:55] <rosemary> Mortice, I am a bit rusty with linux - I use it on a day to day basis but haven't had to do anything with files for ages
[12:56] <Mortice> rosemary: type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" on a command line
[12:56] <rosemary> will try to remember vi I guess and edit the # out
[12:56] <Mortice> rosemary: or you could use vi :)
[12:57] <rosemary> kate is easier :-)
[12:57] <Mortice> :)
[12:58] <Mortice> rosemary: once you're done uncommenting those lines, do 'sudo apt-get update'. If it doesn't give you errors, your repositories are set up.
[12:58] <rosemary> got long error message from that command "Major opcode:144" among other things
[12:58] <joker_> do some 1 know alot about net games
[12:59] <joker_> that u wine for
[12:59] <Mortice> rosemary: huh. would it be at all possible to make your /etc/apt/sources.list available somewhere?
[01:00] <rosemary> Mortice, give me a tick and i'll switch to toher PC - have network going now
[01:00] <Mortice> thanks rosemary - it'll be much easier to help if I can see the file :)
[01:01] <joker_> do some 1 know alot about net games
[01:01] <Mortice> joker_: ask your question, so that someone can help you
[01:01] <Mortice> joker_: it really depends what the question is whether or not someone knows enough about net games to support you :)
[01:01] <joker_> yes
[01:02] <joker_> see i'm new 2 linux
[01:02] <rosemary> Mortice: back - which command did you want output off?
[01:03] <joker_> so i'm try 2 get counter strike 2 work on linux
[01:03] <Mortice> rosemary: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:04] <Mortice> joker_: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[01:04] <joker_> ty bro
[01:05] <Mortice> joker_: No problem. Enjoy :)
[01:06] <joker_> i will
[01:08] <rosemary> can't find the paste place
[01:08] <Mortice> !paste
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:08] <rosemary> maybe I can try vi
[01:09] <Mortice> rosemary: what for? Just do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a terminal and copy-paste the output to that website.
[01:09] <nonickname> hey
[01:10] <Mortice> hello, nonickname :)
[01:10] <nonickname> what's up?
[01:10] <daniloc> nothing, what abot u ?
[01:10] <rosemary> Mortice: did it work? :-0
[01:11] <Mortice> rosemary: you need to link me to the url it gave you
[01:11] <daniloc> anybody here need a free sms? pvt me
[01:11] <Mortice> rosemary: ok, no worries, i found it
[01:11] <nonickname> i was just contemplating using kubuntu to slipstream a windows cd.. appears i don't know much about slipstreaming
[01:12] <Mortice> rosemary: OK. There are still # symbols at the start of the 'deb...' and 'deb-src...' lines. I thought you had removed those?
[01:14] <rosemary> Mortice: I was trying but no mc and the kdesu kate command didn't work
[01:15] <Mortice> rosemary: oh, apologies.
[01:16] <Mortice> type "sudo kate" and then open up /etc/apt/sources.list from the file open dialog
[01:17] <rosemary> Mortice: think something bizarre has happened and the file is gone - but willl try that
[01:17] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to avoid konqueror's message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
[01:17] <Mortice> rosemary: the file isn't gone, because cat /etc/apt/sources.list gave us the right output
[01:19] <rosemary> okay I have it open now - so just go and take out the # on the deb lines?
[01:19] <zorgluuu> vlt: you make konqueror believe the page is a file:// too
[01:19] <Mortice> rosemary: yea, take those out on the deb and deb-src lines, then save the file.
[01:19] <zorgluuu> vlt: you copy the html in a file and point konqueror at it
[01:21] <rosemary> okay done thanks Mortice will try an update
[01:21] <Mortice> rosemary: sudo apt-get update first, then try, for example, sudo apt-get install mc
[01:21] <Mortice> rosemary: or you can use graphical package management stuff
[01:22] <rosemary> Mortice: prefer the command line thanks - it is working now
[01:22] <Mortice> rosemary: cool :)
[01:24] <rosemary> Mortice: thanks for your help :-0 much appreciated
[01:24] <Mortice> rosemary: no problem at all. keeps me from going mad while i deal with my own problem here :)
[01:25] <rosemary> Mortice: and what's that?
[01:25] <vlt> zorgluuu: Mmh, maybe a language problem ... but I don't understand what to do. What do I have to copy where and how does this solve the problem?
[01:25] <Mortice> rosemary: OTRS is a pain in the ass. :)
[01:26] <rosemary> OTRS - I will have to work on that acronymn! :-)
[01:27] <ROBOd> which package is used by kde when i press print-screen key? for screen kapturing
[01:27] <Hobbsee> ksnapshot?
[01:27] <Electrolyte> KSnapshot should automatically start when you press Print Screen.
[01:28] <Mortice> rosemary: Open Ticket Request System
[01:30] <Mortice> ROBOd: "kapturing", heh. :)
[01:30] <rosemary> Mortice: to do with helping people with their issue relating to computing?
[01:30] <Mortice> rosemary: yea, essentially, although you could use it to track any kind of problem. not necessarily computer support
[01:30] <ROBOd> Mortice: when Rome, do it like romans do :P
[01:31] <Mortice> rosemary: I'm doing a systems rebuild for this company, and I can't seem to make OTRS upgrade smoothly
[01:31] <ROBOd> *when in Rome ...
[01:32] <rosemary> Mortice: okay - teething problems - they will come right I am sure
[01:32] <Mortice> rosemary: hope so.
[01:32] <rosemary> Mortice: sure they will
[01:33] <spirit_> i want to create the LFS ,i used the cfdisk ,but there  was no effect when i tried to partition from the hda6,now i have a kubuntu on the hda5
[01:36] <daniloc> !repos
[01:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:37] <daniloc> !easysource
[01:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:49] <shantanu__> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / x86_64 <--- what does this mean?
[02:01] <abattoir> daniloc: hi. you were looking for me?
[02:04] <daniloc> abattoir: nothing now :)
[02:04] <abattoir> daniloc: aah, ok. was away at that time :)
[02:05] <daniloc> i see :)
[02:05] <daniloc> thanks anyway ;)
[02:05] <daniloc> i got some problems but Mortice helps me :)
[02:05] <abattoir> daniloc: nice :)
[02:06] <Mortice> daniloc: i'm back now. did you fix your repository problems?
[02:06] <daniloc> no
[02:07] <daniloc> Mortice:
[02:07] <daniloc> can u paste me ?
[02:07] <daniloc> i have a bad repos
[02:07] <daniloc> :)
[02:07] <Mortice> paste you what, daniloc?
[02:07] <daniloc> repository's
[02:07] <daniloc> i want u sources.list
[02:07] <Mortice> daniloc: why don't you pastebot your /etc/apt/sources.list and i'll see what the problem is?
[02:07] <daniloc> ok, wait
[02:07] <daniloc> can i paste here ?
[02:07] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[02:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:08] <abattoir> daniloc: ^^^ might be interested in that
[02:08] <Mortice> daniloc: vvv
[02:08] <Mortice> !paste
[02:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:08] <abattoir> daniloc: and please use pastebin for large posts^^^
[02:08] <daniloc> ## Add comments (##) in front of any line to remove it from being checked.
[02:08] <daniloc> ## Use the following sources.list at your own risk.
[02:08] <daniloc> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[02:08] <abattoir> OMG
[02:08] <daniloc> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[02:08] <daniloc> ## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
[02:08] <daniloc> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[02:08] <daniloc> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[02:08] <daniloc> ## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
[02:08] <daniloc> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[02:08] <daniloc> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[02:09] <daniloc> ## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[02:09] <daniloc> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[02:09] <daniloc> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[02:09] <daniloc> ## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[02:09] <daniloc> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[02:09] <daniloc> deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[02:09] <daniloc> 
[02:09] <daniloc> ## CANONICAL COMMERCIAL REPOSITORY (Hosted on Canonical servers, not Ubuntu
[02:09] <daniloc> ## servers. RealPlayer10, Opera and more to come.)
[02:09] <daniloc> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[02:09] <daniloc> :)))))
[02:09] <daniloc> abattoir: Mortice ?
[02:09] <Mortice> daniloc: why didn't you use pastebin?
[02:09] <abattoir> daniloc: you are not supposed to paste it here :-\
[02:10] <Mortice> daniloc: don't paste the whole thing in PMs to me either >.<
[02:10] <Mortice> argh, please stop flooding my screen
[02:10] <abattoir> !paste
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:11] <abattoir> daniloc: READ THAT ^^^^
[02:11] <Martijn81> hmmm, something i'd like to know for a long time now, the kmail systray icon, how do i enable that? This seems to be different in almost any version, and i can't find it now
[02:11] <Mortice> daniloc: please stop flooding me.
[02:11] <daniloc> Mortice: pasted at pvt
[02:11] <Mortice> daniloc: i asked you TWICE not to do that.
[02:12] <Mortice> daniloc: FWIW, your sources list looks fine.
[02:12] <Martijn81> or kontact icon, maybe even better
[02:12] <daniloc> :(
[02:13] <daniloc> kkk
[02:13] <Mortice> Martijn81: kmail systray icon? like a mail notifier?
[02:13] <daniloc> k
[02:13] <daniloc> ok
[02:13] <daniloc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22724
[02:13] <daniloc> stoped
[02:13] <daniloc> can i see your sources list?
[02:13] <daniloc> Mortice: can i see ?
[02:13] <Mortice> daniloc: it's the same as yours, without the PLF and canonical repositories.
[02:14] <Mortice> daniloc: what, exactly, do you think the problem is?
[02:14] <Martijn81> Mortice: i don't know what is was, too long ago... but it was something like the akregator icon i think
[02:14] <daniloc> i dont know
[02:14] <daniloc> Fetched 6B in 2s (2B/s)
[02:14] <daniloc> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Source
[02:14] <Mortice> Martijn81: what did it do? open kmail, tell you when you had new mail, or what?
[02:14] <daniloc> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources
[02:14] <daniloc>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:15] <Martijn81> Mortice: it did open kontact/kmail
[02:15] <Mortice> Martijn81: so just a shortcut to the application?
[02:16] <Mortice> Martijn81: right-click somewhere on your panel, go to Add to Panel > Link to Application, and find Kmail or Kontact in the menus.
[02:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> Martijn81,
[02:16] <Martijn81> Mortice: from the systray yes, so the program was still there when you used the X to close the window
[02:16] <Mortice> Martijn81: oh, ok. ignore my last message then
[02:16] <Martijn81> Mortice: yeah, i know that ;)
[02:16] <Mortice> Martijn81: apologies :)
[02:17] <Martijn81> np
[02:17] <Martijn81> it's weird because almost any distro has this different, some do it automaticly and launch kontact with kmail i think
[02:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> Martijn81, settings -> configure kmail -> appearence -> systray -> enable systray -> always show systray icon
[02:18] <Martijn81> anyway, i searched my ass off
[02:19] <Martijn81> yesz, that's it :) thank you Telroth_Plushie|
[02:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> i think it's the other way around
[02:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> because the kontact options for systray control the kmail options
[02:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> so it seems like kmail is more of a parent application
[02:19] <Martijn81> i know there's icon on the panel, but i want to spot mail in systray ;)
[02:20] <Jucato> :)
[02:20] <Jucato> Kontact is more of just a container for the kde-pim apps...
[02:20] <Martijn81> but thanks guys (obvious i should have better looked though)
[02:21] <Jucato> KMail's systray options can be set in Kontact either from what Telroth_Plushie| said, or from Settings > Configure Kontact >Mail options
[02:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> no Jucato
[02:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> they can be set in kontact from appearance -> systray
[02:22] <ubuntu> hello
[02:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> which is the exact same way as setting them in kmail
[02:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> hello
[02:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> anyways, i'm off
[02:23] <felix_e> riddell: amarok-stable/amarok-latest still point to amarok-142. if you have two minutes to fix that sometime - thanks.
[02:23] <Jucato> Telroth_Plushie|: yes, because contact also displays the individual component's settings
[02:23] <Jucato> Telroth|School: but you can also set KMail's system tray option from Settings > Configure Kontact > Mail options > Appearance > System Tray
[02:23] <Jucato> check it if you don't believe me...
[02:24] <Riddell> felix_e: done
[02:27] <felix_e> thanks.
[02:31] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hah.  Too dang early.  Gotta get up to the oldest off to school :(
[02:31] <Jucato> :)
[02:33] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Any news from abattoir ?
[02:33] <abattoir> Hawkwind: working on it... will wikify it soon
[02:33] <Jucato> heh
[02:33] <Jucato> :)
[02:33] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks!
[02:33] <Hawkwind> Hah
[02:34] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Very kewl.  Good morning by the way :P
[02:34] <abattoir> Hawkwind: a very good morning to you too :)
[02:34] <Jucato> Hobbsee's there too. though very quiet. I suspect busy backing up stuff :)
[02:34] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i finished backing up long ago
[02:34] <Jucato> lol
[02:35] <Jucato> probably 4 hours ago? :)
[02:41] <flaccid> i need a chess game
[02:41] <flaccid> GUI, that you can play against people on network
[02:42] <flaccid> and is free and is not crap
[02:42] <flaccid> any ideas team?
[02:46] <Mortice> flaccid: vvv
[02:46] <Mortice> !info knights
[02:46] <ubotu> knights: A chess interface for the K Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 773 kB, installed size 1744 kB
[02:46] <flaccid> thanks Mortice
[02:46] <flaccid> i shall try
[02:53] <ubuntu> rouzic: hermano como ests?
[02:54] <matthias> does anybody have an amarok changelog?
[02:55] <matthias> i got the 1.4.3 update today and i'd like to know about new features. but amarok.kde.org is down
[02:55] <rouzic> ubuntu: quien eres? xDDDDDD
[02:55] <Scream_Ve> Scream ^_^
[02:56] <Mortice> matthias: if you got it with apt, the changelog is in /usr/share/doc/amarok
[02:56] <Trollinator> oh, cool
[02:57] <rouzic> ah xD
[02:57] <rouzic> http://digital.revistasprofesionales.com:8080/View_Ctrl/ml/archivo/92/portada.jpg look this
[02:57] <rouzic> a image xD
[02:57] <Trollinator> thanks
[02:58] <Scream_Ve> Es ke ando desde live cd xD
[02:58] <rouzic> oks Scream, conectate a kubuntu-es ;)
[02:59] <Scream_Ve> Ya ando alla bro, ya dejaste hotmail?
[02:59] <rouzic> no
[03:00] <murmulis> !w32codecs
[03:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <TheGateKeeper> !backup > TheGateKeeper
[03:06] <Jucato> ! backaway > Jucato :)
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> szevasztok
[03:13] <abattoir> Jucato: around?
[03:13] <Jucato> yep..
[03:13] <Jucato> didn't actually get the chance to go away...
[03:14] <abattoir> Jucato: did you get the invite?
[03:14] <abattoir> Jucato: sent it to you twice... anyway join k-m
[03:14] <Jucato> just now :)
[03:16] <TheGateKeeper> what's the easiest way to back your system, tar it then save that tar to DVD?
[03:30] <lupine_85> TheGateKeeper: I wouldn't even bother with tar
[03:31] <lupine_85> just build an iso with your / (excluding /proc, etc ;) ) and write that to CD
[03:31] <lupine_85>  /DVD
[03:35] <holy_cow> I installed gnome and now I have quite a few extra menu items, isn't there a program that keeps the items seperate?
[03:36] <TheGateKeeper> lupine_85: I am going to mondo thanx :-)
[03:36] <Emess> right click your kmenu and go to kmenu preferences, tehn edit the menu
[03:36] <TheGateKeeper> back in a bit
[03:37] <joscha> u can't make an iso of /, because you can't store the chmod-flags
[03:38] <joscha> so your system will likely messed up after restore
[03:38] <holy_cow> Emess, yeah, but i thought there was a program that kept things seperate
[03:40] <beligum> Is it general practice to include the ./configure command in the autogen.sh bootstrapper (for SVN/CVS checkouts)??
[03:45] <sorush20> hi guys how do I change kdm to gdm?
[03:45] <nonickname> !grub
[03:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:46] <Jucato> nonickname: still no nick name?
[03:46] <Mortice> beligum: I haven't noticed any greater frequency one way or the other. As long as your provide an INSTALL file which is correct, I don't think it matters
[03:46] <nonickname> Jucato: yep
[03:46] <nonickname> it's the new me
[03:46] <Jucato> sorush20: you installed kubuntu from ubuntu?
[03:46] <beligum> thx Mortice
[03:46] <WoodwardAve> hey - question for you all - where can i find info on installing KDE 3.54 in dapper?
[03:46] <WoodwardAve> are there repos or just deb files
[03:47] <Mortice> sorush20: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm": select gdm in the dialog and select OK
[03:47] <Jucato> sorush20: you installed kubuntu from ubuntu?
[03:47] <sorush20> Jucato: I installed ubuntu from kubuntu now I can't log into gnome ubuntu and the desktop will no load
[03:48] <sorush20> I just can not load the gnome desktop that is the case..
[03:48] <Jucato> sorush20: even if you choose the proper "GNOME" session in KDM?
[03:48] <sorush20> Jucato: yes..
[03:48] <WoodwardAve> !latestkde
[03:48] <Jucato> try what Mortice said
[03:48] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.3, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[03:49] <Jucato> WoodwardAve: there's a 3.5.4 also available in Kubuntu.org
[03:49] <Jucato> instructions are there
[03:49] <Jucato> I'd recommend staying with KDe 3.5.4 for a while though
[03:50] <Hobbsee> !-latestkde
[03:50] <ubotu> latestkde is <alias> latest kde - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 16:46:15
[03:50] <Hobbsee> !-latest kde
[03:50] <ubotu> latest kde aliases: latestkde, kde3.5.3 - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 16:46:04
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee
[03:50] <Hobbsee> !no latest kde is <reply>The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[03:50] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[03:50] <Hobbsee> !latestkde
[03:50] <ubotu> The latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[03:51] <Tired_> Hello
[03:51] <Hobbsee> fixed.
[03:51] <Jucato> lol
[03:51] <DaSkreech> !backaway
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backaway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <Tired_> I have a weird situation, and I'm wondering if a Kubuntu Live CD has the tools I need to fix it.
[03:51] <Jucato> probably ubotu thinks that KDE 3.5.3 is the latest "stable" :)
[03:52] <WoodwardAve> alright, so should i go with kde 3.53 or 3.54
[03:52] <Tired_> I need to copy a directory and all it's subsirectories from a FAT32 partition to an NTFS one.
[03:52] <WoodwardAve> does 3.54 have any major issues
[03:52] <Jucato> WoodwardAve: my personal recommendation would be 3.5.3, for now
[03:52] <WoodwardAve> alright thanks Jucato
[03:52] <Jucato> WoodwardAve: nothing major, some are just annoying
[03:53] <Tired_> But I need to do it outside of Windows. WIll Kubuntu write NTFS off the Live CD?
[03:53] <Wolfpaws> 'lo. A question: Where can I find a repository of KDE for Edgy?
[03:53] <Jucato> Tired_: writing to NTFS isn't recommended in Kubuntu, for now
[03:54] <Tired_> Or can I use FTP to move the files across partitions?
[03:54] <Wolfpaws> Tired_: o.O
[03:54] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: there is no separate repo. its part of main
[03:54] <Tired_> Can you use FTP to send file to your own box (127.0.0.1)?
[03:55] <scott_> good morning all...I am needing a bit of help on the instruction command to install the KDE desktop environment
[03:55] <Jucato> scott_: trying to install KDE on Ubuntu?
[03:55] <scott_> correct
[03:56] <Wolfpaws> abattoir: but where it is? I can't find it in kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/.
[03:56] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: are you on edgy?
[03:56] <Jucato> Wolfpaws: are you using edgy?
[03:56] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: or dapper?
[03:56] <Jucato> heh abattoir beat me
[03:56] <abattoir> scott_: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[03:56] <Jucato> scott_: try this link: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde.html
[03:56] <abattoir> scott_: ^^ that'd get you KDE
[03:56] <Jucato> abattoir: I would recommend aptitude, but that's just me :)
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> just installed mondo found it doesn't work so want to remove it, synaptic is only showing mondo for removal not all the dependencies it dragged in, how can I get rid of them too?
[03:57] <Wolfpaws> abattoir: I'm beginning the update to edgy
[03:57] <scott_> I believe KDE...is already installed...I need the terminal command?
[03:57] <Jucato> Wolfpaws: if you upgrade to edgy, you will be upgrade to KDE 3.5.4
[03:57] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: aah, ok... so you modified the sources.list file?
[03:57] <greatauk> TheGateKeeper, first, find mondo in adept
[03:57] <Wolfpaws> abattoir: yup
[03:58] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: if you replaced all instances of dapper w/ edgy, then do 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:58] <greatauk> TheGateKeeper, then click on the details button for a list of dependencies, and uninstall unwanted ones from there
[03:58] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: and then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:58] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: that should get you up to date
[03:58] <Jucato> Wolfpaws: hopefully not on your main system...
[03:59] <Hawkwind> Wolfpaws: Curious...why upgrading to Edgy ?  You do realize it's beta and meant to be broken for the most part.  Not really suitable for everyday desktop use
[03:59] <scott_> Jucato...what is the "sudo?" command I need to type to install KDE?
[03:59] <Hawkwind> scott_: sudo apt-get upgrade if you have the right sources added
[03:59] <Hobbsee> !kde
[03:59] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:59] <Jucato> scott_: "sudo" gives you temporary administrator/root privileges
[03:59] <Wolfpaws> abattoir: so now KDE is in Ubuntu core?
[04:00] <darkspirit> Hi how do I change port numbers on xchat please?
[04:00] <scott_> thank you Ubotu...that is what I needed
[04:00] <Wolfpaws> Hawkwind: 1) I'm developer, 2, I had Dapper insalled at 2nd flight, 3) I like bleeding edge.
[04:00] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: its always been in the main repository... ever since Kubuntu was launched
[04:00] <greatauk> scott_, I thought sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should do the trick...
[04:01] <Hawkwind> darkspirit: When trying to connect to a server you mean ?
[04:01] <cox377> does anyone know of a good freeware PDF editor?
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Wolfpaws: Ah ok.  Then carry on :P
[04:01] <Wolfpaws> :)
[04:01] <Hawkwind> cox377: kpdf ?
[04:01] <greatauk> cox377, if you're creating one from scratch: latex
[04:01] <cox377> Hawkwind: does that edit them as well?
[04:01] <Wolfpaws> abattoir: Then why the need for deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 dapper main for Dapper?
[04:01] <darkspirit> yes Hawkwind
[04:02] <cox377> Hawkwind: nah just need to edit
[04:02] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: those are for people who need kde 3.5.4 in dapper
[04:02] <Hawkwind> darkspirit: irc.freenode.net 7000   Replace 7000 with what you want
[04:02] <cox377> normally used open o to create
[04:02] <Hawkwind> cox377: Oh I don't know about editing them
[04:02] <abattoir> Wolfpaws: dapper ships w/ 3.5.2
[04:02] <cox377> Hawkwind: koolio
[04:02] <Hawkwind> I thought OOo could edit them though
[04:02] <jott> koffice can open pdf.. but not with all features ;)
[04:02] <darkspirit> Okay many thanks Hawkwind
[04:02] <Jucato> Wolfpaws: when KDE 3.5 was releases, Dapper was still in development. that's why it was there
[04:02] <Hawkwind> darkspirit: No problem
[04:03] <TheGateKeeper> what's the easiest way to back your system up to dvd?
[04:03] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: I use a bash script that does nothing but use tar then burns to a DVD
[04:03] <jott> pstoedit can convert pdf to various edit-able formats...
[04:04] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: any chance you can pastebin it please?
[04:05] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: I just use a one line tar command.  Then I burn it to DVD myself.  The script doesn't do that since I don't have RW DVD's currently
[04:05] <joscha> TheFuzzball: tar everything and burn it to dvd
[04:05] <rich_> Hi Guys I am having difficulties connecting to the net. Can I join the conversation to see if it is possible to fix please?
[04:05] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: ok if the file is over 2Gb ?
[04:06] <joscha> TheGateKeeper: a dvd fits 4,2 gig
[04:06] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: No difference.  I still burn it to DVD without problems
[04:06] <joscha> when its bigger you can split the tar file
[04:07] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: joscha thanx guys :-) stuff it that is what I am going to do. Back to plan A :-)
[04:07] <Wolfpaws> Thankies, people :)
[04:08] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: I've tried many other methods and always fall back on the good ole tar stuff.  It just....works
[04:08] <DaSkreech> !backaway
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backaway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <rich_> Basically the problem is that I can surf the net via Konquerer and collect email but cannot use Firefox. Friday I could, now I can't. Apt-get cannot be found either.
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: do for me :-) just tried mondo, didn't get past first base
[04:09] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: Ahhh, mondo works for me and is quite good.  It's just overkill for what I need.  Though I know the developer of backup-kungfu which uses mondo/mindi and have done a bit of work on it
[04:09] <Mortice> !info mondo
[04:09] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.06-1 (dapper), package size 462 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[04:10] <dhq> just installed compiz and mysystem display and mouse movement is not proper
[04:10] <Mortice> !compiz
[04:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:11] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: I just get fatal error, not really sure what it's bitching at & log file didn't seem to be too informative either
[04:12] <scott_> how do I download and install mplayer?
[04:12] <Jucato> !mplayer
[04:12] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[04:12] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> scott_: Apt-get install mplayer
[04:13] <scott_> daskreech...I got a bash...with that
[04:14] <DaSkreech> scott_: Ummm I'll pretned to understand that :)
[04:15] <scott_> I am such a neebie...I would not even begin to say I understand Linux
[04:15] <DaSkreech> scott_: Ah ok what do you use to install?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Adept?
[04:15] <scott_> yes
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Ok under the adept menu you will see Manage Repositores
[04:16] <DaSkreech> can you click on that?
[04:17] <scott_> I am actually using Syaptic
[04:17] <scott_> Synaptic..sorry about the miss communication
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Ah ok Let me think about that :)
[04:18] <scott_> I would also like to install java...if you know how/
[04:18] <scott_> ?
[04:18] <rich_> Anybody have any ideas why I can connect to the net with Konquerer but not with Firefox please?
[04:18] <DaSkreech> !java
[04:18] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:18] <DaSkreech> scott_: read that :)
[04:19] <joscha> rich_: do you have set a proxy?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> scott_: actually that should take care of all your problems
[04:19] <rich_> How do you set a proxy please? Is that through etc/resolv.conf
[04:19] <scott_> ok...thanks
[04:19] <Mr0bvious> scott_: Welcome to Linux :).
[04:20] <Mr0bvious> D'oh
[04:20] <DaSkreech> scott_: after you set up the multiverse Doh!!
[04:20] <TheGateKeeper> back in a bit
[04:20] <Mr0bvious> DaSkreech: D'oh! Aww nuts. Mmm donuts.
[04:20] <joscha> rich_: enter "export | grep proxy" in the konsole. What does it give you?
[04:21] <joscha> did you make changes in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[04:22] <rich_> No I made no changes in etc/resolv.conf and nothing happens when I do export | grep proxy!
[04:22] <DaSkreech> doh Doh Doh DOH ,,, Wait I mean Woohoo!
[04:23] <rich_> When I try export as sudo it says command not recognised.
[04:23] <Martijn81> ehhh, openssl issue-> http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20060905.txt
[04:24] <DaSkreech> rich_: export is a bash buitin Sudo can't run it
[04:24] <rich_> Oops thanks - should I expect something to happen then?
[04:25] <rich_> I should say I ran it first without sudo but when nothing happened I tried sudo as well.
[04:25] <joscha> rich_: no its good that nothing happend
[04:25] <rich_> Thanks!
[04:28] <DaSkreech> aseigo: ping
[04:28] <rich_> Any ideas what to do next then. Somebody suggested that it might be a router/switch problem!
[04:28] <Jucato> Jucato: ping
[04:29] <DaSkreech> hi scott_
[04:29] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I was trying to test what ping does :)
[04:29] <scott_> thanks DaSkreech
[04:29] <Martijn81> ping <-> pong thing afaik
[04:30] <scott_> ok...I got KDE installed ok...now I am going to try Java...from KDE...do I first need to download it?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> scott_: Yep
[04:30] <nonickname> hmm.. sorry for laziness, but is there a particular program anyone would suggest for making an iso backup of a cdrom?
[04:30] <scott_> install it on my desktop?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> scott_: You read the link I gave you?
[04:31] <scott_> can you resend it to me
[04:31] <scott_> I was trying to switch environments..and lost it?
[04:32] <tk_> hello
[04:32] <DaSkreech> !java > scott_
[04:32] <DaSkreech> hi
[04:32] <Martijn81> hi there tk_
[04:34] <abattoir> scott_: if you have it 'installed under gnome' then you dont need to do it again, fyi
[04:34] <tk_> i have a problem with amarok  - it doesnt play anything ... but under kde the alsa output works fine with other progs like vlc or others ... i have installed amarok-engines too and trying the OSS output module too ... but it dont works...can anone help me ?
[04:35] <Emess> tk_: all music or jsut mp3?
[04:35] <tk_> mp3
[04:36] <initdr> i just installed kubuntu and i cant get my display to change to anything but 640*480.  I dont think my voodo3 driver is working for it, can someone help
[04:36] <tk_> will try with ogg
[04:37] <Emess> make sure you have the xin libs for mp3 installed
[04:37] <Emess> see http;//wiki.ubuntu.com/restricted_formats
[04:37] <Emess> i thinkt hats teh right site...
[04:37] <Jucato> !mp3
[04:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:37] <tk_> ok ogg does playing fine
[04:38] <Emess> yeah you jsut dont ahve the mp3 libs
[04:38] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to avoid konqueror's message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
[04:38] <Jucato> tk_: you need the codecs to play mp3, and another one to play WMA/WMV
[04:38] <tk_> many thanx ..will see
[04:38] <magical_trevsky> hi, does anyone know where the AGPSize parameter should go within xorg.conf?
[04:38] <vlt> Someone pointed me to README.kisok but I can't find a solution there ...
[04:39] <Jucato> magical_trevsky: how did your upgrade go? Amarok 1.4.3 was just recently fixed to work on KDE 3.5.2 also
[04:40] <magical_trevsky> Jucato, it went good, except fonts in xchat, gaim (and perhaps other gnome applications that i have installed) have gone really ugly, like there is no hinting :(
[04:40] <Emess> magical_trevsky: under screen i would guess
[04:40] <magical_trevsky> Emess, i guess i can just put it in random places and see if x starts or not, hehe
[04:40] <Jucato> magical_trevsky:  I'm not sure about that, but I think resetting some of the font settings helped... I'm not really a "font" type of guy..
[04:40] <Emess> nah find the input section screen andit should ahvea  bunch of resolutions
[04:41] <stealg> hola alguien sabe como peudo instalar el ultimo x.org o de donde lo puedo conseguir gracias
[04:41] <Jucato> !es
[04:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:41] <octan> !no
[04:41] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[04:41] <octan> lol
[04:41] <stealg> hi enyone knows where i can found the last driver of x.org
[04:41] <daniloc> lol
[04:42] <hpoter74> hola a todos
[04:42] <daniloc> hola amigo :)
[04:42] <daniloc> LOL
[04:44] <stealg> daniloc how  i register in the irc frenode?
[04:45] <dennisharrison_A> kubuntu have some strange dns magic?
[04:45] <Emess> stealg: /msg nickserv register password email
[04:45] <stealg> tnks Emess
[04:45] <dennisharrison_A> I keep having to change my hosts file
[04:46] <dennisharrison_A> the windows machine over here doesn't have issues like that
[04:46] <dennisharrison_A> and both are using the same dns servers
[04:46] <dennisharrison_A> is there some sort of caching bind on here?
[04:50] <magical_trevsky> hmm, that didn't work :(
[04:51] <Mr0bvious> stealg: What do you mean X driver?
[04:51] <Mr0bvious> stealg: Do you mean for your GFX card.
[04:52] <iamtheone> Does anyone know howto mount ntfs in    kubuntu live
[04:52] <dennisharrison_A> err
[04:52] <dennisharrison_A> you can just mount it im pretty sure?
[04:53] <dennisharrison_A> but it is read only
[04:53] <dennisharrison_A> there is ... another program out there to mount it with write but thats considered unsafe still?
[04:53] <iamtheone> no i can't because i don't have root permission
[04:53] <DaSkreech> iamtheone: try Sudo
[04:53] <DaSkreech> !root
[04:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:53] <dennisharrison_A> sudo su -
[04:54] <dennisharrison_A> then thats root
[04:54] <DaSkreech> dennisharrison_A: Shhhhhhhh
[04:54] <dennisharrison_A> lol
[04:54] <dennisharrison_A> make sure you are in sudoers
[04:54] <dennisharrison_A> uhmm .. anyone in here know if kubuntu has some sort of caching dns server built in?
[04:54] <Jucato> iamtheone: you don't need to be root. you just need to use sudo to gain administrator privileges. you don't even need a password in the Live CD
[04:54] <dennisharrison_A> because I am having some weird dns issues I don't get on any of the other machines
[04:54] <megaserg> hello, i've a problem: i
[04:55] <dennisharrison_A> my /etc/hosts file is in constant flux because of this weird error ;p
[04:55] <DaSkreech> dennisharrison_A: It has no servers built in. install bind
[04:55] <dennisharrison_A> I don't want to install bind ;p
[04:55] <dennisharrison_A> just wondering because
[04:55] <iamtheone> how do i now what the root password is?
[04:56] <dennisharrison_A> it seems to be caching old dns info somewhere
[04:56] <Jucato> iamtheone: in the Live CD, there's no root password
[04:56] <DaSkreech> iamtheone: There is no password
[04:56] <dennisharrison_A> it normally wouldn't be a problem but I don't want to edit my hosts file or restart network everytime my isp finally gets wind of a dns change
[04:56] <Jucato> iamtheone: when you install Kubuntu, the administrator's password is the password of the first user created
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: technically on all Cds there is no root password
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Well *buntu Cds
[04:57] <Jucato> well, no "root" password :)
[04:57] <iamtheone> i have tried : sudo su - (what should happen? i am a linux newbie)
[04:57] <Mr0bvious> iamtheone: Just use sudo (root command)
[04:57] <Jucato> iamtheone: you don't use "sudo su"
[04:57] <DaSkreech> iamtheone: You are now root
[04:57] <Jucato> iamtheone: please read the link that was given for more information
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Jucato: He has already work with it
[04:57] <Jucato> !sudo
[04:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Jucato: explain why he shoudln't do that later :)
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Just help him get the job done
[04:58] <Jucato> and get the job done right... sudo -i if he wants...
[04:58] <Mr0bvious> Whats -i do?
[04:58] <iamtheone> where can i see am root?
[04:58] <Jucato> anyway, you're call... /me is going away
[04:58] <Mr0bvious> :
[04:58] <Mr0bvious> :\
[04:58] <Emess> ssh root@127.0.0.1
[04:58] <Emess> screw sudo
[04:59] <megaserg> hello, i've a problem: i'm trying to install Kubuntu 6.06 from live cd... after copying files, Kubuntu trying to check mirrors archives, get 1% and... just stops. What to do?
[04:59] <dennisharrison_A> all the love for sudo? ;p
[04:59] <Mr0bvious> iamtheone: Why do you want root? Just using sudo (command) will allow you to run root commands fine.
[04:59] <Emess> i ahve no love for sudo
[04:59] <Emess> so doe susing slackware instead of ubuntu :p
[04:59] <dennisharrison_A> lol why ?
[04:59] <Emess> i jsut dont like it, feels wierd
[05:00] <Emess> although apt-get is a ncie improvement to teh tgz and ports thing from slack and bsd
[05:00] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to avoid konqueror's message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
[05:00] <Mr0bvious> vlt: Use firefox? *ducks*
[05:01] <dennisharrison_A> you don't like sudo because it feels weird
[05:01] <dennisharrison_A> you can aquire root with sudo
[05:01] <Mortice> sudo -s
[05:01] <Mr0bvious> I suppose you can use sudo passwd root, but I just use sudo because it's easier.
[05:01] <jake> sudo -s -H gives full root access
[05:01] <dennisharrison_A> sudo su -
[05:02] <jake> can anybody help with superkaramba?
[05:02] <Mr0bvious> !ask
[05:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:02] <Jucato> before discussing about the benefits/disadvantages  of sudo, I hope someone has helped iamtheone simply mount the ntfs partition...
[05:02] <Mortice> ah, the -H is pretty important, yes.
[05:02] <Mr0bvious> Jucato: Lol.
[05:02] <iamtheone> so i am root now? how to mount the ntfs disk?
[05:02] <Jucato> :)
[05:03] <Mr0bvious> sudo mount something
[05:03] <dennisharrison_A> what disk is it?
[05:03] <Mr0bvious> I need to google it
[05:03] <mighty-d> hi, how can i share a printer using two linux machines?
[05:03] <iamtheone> hda5
[05:03] <jake> my downloaded themes in superkaramba seem to be missing, where do I look to open them?
[05:03] <iamtheone> so sudo mount hda5?
[05:03] <dennisharrison_A> google.com/linux
[05:03] <dennisharrison_A> no
[05:03] <dennisharrison_A> you need to tell it to mount as ntfs
[05:03] <abattoir> jake: you got it through the "Get new stuff" ?
[05:03] <dennisharrison_A> and read only and so on and so on
[05:03] <dennisharrison_A> I dont use ntfs so im not sure if the params
[05:03] <dennisharrison_A> sorry
[05:04] <Mr0bvious>     mkdir /mnt/windows
[05:04] <Mr0bvious>     mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r
[05:04] <iamtheone> thanx, going to try now
[05:04] <megaserg> hello, i'm Linux newbie and got a problem, can you help me?
[05:04] <Mr0bvious> Or use /media I ugess
[05:04] <Mr0bvious> megaserg: Just say it, don't spray it.
[05:04] <Emess> superkaramba doesnt work for me :(
[05:04] <abattoir> Emess: what happened?
[05:05] <xwolf-> imbrandon add "-o ro,umask=0222" to the end of that mount command if you're doing it as root and want to access it with every other non-superuser
[05:05] <megaserg> i'm trying to install Kubuntu 6.06 from live cd... after copying files, Kubuntu trying to check mirrors archives, get 1% and... just stops. What to do?
[05:05] <vlt> MrObvious: I surely would use firefox. But can firefox open a file browser window behind a file:// link?
[05:05] <victor> olaaaa
[05:05] <Mr0bvious> iamtheone: So do sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/windows (after making the directory) -t ntfs -r
[05:05] <ubuntu> hi i'm italian
[05:06] <jake> yes I grabbed several themes through get new stuff and they all worked but when I rebooted they were gone and open local theme doesn't reveal any obvious locations.  I used slocate superkaramba and .theme and followed the results but still can't locate my themes
[05:06] <Mortice> Mr0bvious: putting in the options xwolf- suggested is a good idea.
[05:06] <Mr0bvious> vlt: It might be an option. I don't use konqueror for anything much anymore.
[05:06] <Mr0bvious> iamtheone: So do sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/windows (after making the directory) -t ntfs -r -o ro,umask=0222
[05:06] <Mr0bvious> Mortice: Didn't see that. Thanks!
[05:06] <s-> how i can install Mozilla Firefox with kubuntu?
[05:06] <xwolf-> !it
[05:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:06] <xwolf-> s- you can download the tarball in getfirefox.com
[05:07] <xwolf-> the instructions are pretty straightforward
[05:07] <s-> ok xwolf thx
[05:07] <Mr0bvious> vlt: I know you can use firefox and konqueror simeltaneously.
[05:07] <iamtheone> how to copy and paste?
[05:07] <Mortice> !mozilla-firefox
[05:07] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 104 kB
[05:07] <Mr0bvious> xwolf-: It's on the repos too.
[05:07] <iamtheone> I mean tekst.
[05:07] <abattoir> jake: see if they are in ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba
[05:07] <Mr0bvious> iamtheone: Highlight what you want to copy and middle cilck. BUT.... wait a second
[05:07] <xwolf-> i'm not sure about the version in the package, so i didnt give him that option
[05:07] <Mr0bvious> !psatebin
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psatebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <Mr0bvious> !pastebin
[05:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:08] <vlt> s-: There's an apt package. BTW all ubuntu packages run on kubuntu, too.
[05:08] <Mr0bvious> iamtheone: Use pastebin.
[05:08] <xwolf-> it's great to knoww that firefox has an up-to-date package.
[05:08] <iamtheone> yep
[05:08] <xwolf-> s- you might want to install it with adept or some other package manager
[05:08] <xwolf-> it's... safer
[05:08] <vlt> MrObvious: So if I use FF how can FF open a konqueror window?
[05:08] <Mr0bvious> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[05:08] <abattoir> jake: tell me if it was there... long time since i worked w/ sk
[05:09] <Mr0bvious> vlt: It's something to do with download options or something I think.
[05:09] <jake> yes thank you
[05:09] <abattoir> jake: ok, cool
[05:09] <Mr0bvious> vlt: I don't use Konqueror as much because I need more RAM. 512MB isn't enough. I'm already swapping 200MB.
[05:10] <abattoir> hm Liquid weather has gone to 13.xx :P
[05:10] <Emess> lynx is a real mans browser!
[05:10] <Mr0bvious> I'm gonna try to get a gig once I get paid.
[05:10] <xwolf-> 512mb isn't enough?
[05:10] <Mr0bvious> Nope.
[05:10] <ninHer_> hi all
[05:10] <xwolf-> i have 512mb and konq works peachy
[05:10] <Emess> i run konqueror fine with 192....
[05:10] <Mr0bvious> When you run what I run...
[05:10] <vlt> Mr0bvious: So can you reccommend any file browser (GUI) I can open from a file:// link in FF?
[05:11] <Mr0bvious>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:11] <Mr0bvious> Mem:        515816     507728       8088          0     110908     100464
[05:11] <Mr0bvious> Swap:      1020088     248692     771396
[05:11] <Mr0bvious> See?
[05:11] <xwolf-> vlt i guess it's about configuring firefox itself, not a plugin-compliant gui browser
[05:11] <Mr0bvious> vlt: Why do you need a file:// link?
[05:11] <xwolf-> but i don't know how you can manipulate protocol://, so i won't comment it anymore.
[05:12] <Mr0bvious> Actually I'm gonna move to another computer. I'll be back after a bit.
[05:12] <iamtheone> Thanx, got to go now, bye
[05:12] <vlt> Mr0bvious: I want to open a file browser window from a web pased intranet application ...
[05:13] <vlt> MrObvious: ... which is no problem with $different_OS ...
[05:13] <Emess> so you want to tell firefox if it finsds file:// to open a different app?
[05:14] <xwolf-> yeah, i think that's his idea, Emess
[05:16] <vlt> Emess, xwolf-: No. The app is web based and runs in FF or Konqueror. I want to open a file browser. It works with IE on another OS and works nearly with Konqueror. I only want to kill that f***ing warning
[05:17] <Emess> what warning? id otng et any warning...
[05:17] <Mortice> vlt: the warning refers to it being an untrusted site. why don't you add it to the list of trusted sites?
[05:17] <Mortice> vlt: it's all to do with your konqi security settings
[05:17] <vlt> Mortice: That was my initial question (O_O)
[05:18] <Mortice> vlt: well, the options to change the security settings and add sites to the trusted list are all there in konqueror
[05:19] <vlt> Mortice: That sounds like a perfect answer to "Any idea how to avoid konqueror's message: 'This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?'?"
[05:19] <vlt> Mortice: Where can I set that?
[05:19] <vlt> Mortice: I don't find any security settings in konqueror options.
[05:19] <Mortice> vlt: konqueror's options. I don't know exactly where, since I'm not a heavy konqueror user
[05:20] <Ayabara> in what file do I put commands I want to be ran at startup?
[05:20] <Mr0bvious> Sorry to leave like that.
[05:20] <vlt> Ayabara: /etc/rc*.d/
[05:21] <Mr0bvious> I had to change computers because I'm at college.
[05:21] <xwolf-> Ayabara there is a command... update-rc.d
[05:21] <Mr0bvious> vlt: Get it figured out?
[05:23] <vlt> Mr0bvious: Just set lang=en and opened new Konqueror ... wait ...
[05:23] <l_r> what's the iptables script in init.d in kubuntu?
[05:25] <vlt> Settings -> Configure Konqueror. There's a section "Crypto" ... Mmh, "SSL", no, "Your Certificates", no, "Authentication" ... ???
[05:25] <SeanTater> l_r: I don't think there is one
[05:25] <vlt> l_r: Where you create it ;-)
[05:25] <l_r> what?
[05:25] <l_r> there's no script for iptables?
[05:25] <SeanTater> l_r: nope
[05:25] <vlt> l_r: You can craete one.
[05:25] <l_r> i know i can  create one :)
[05:25] <SeanTater> l_r: the ports don't respond anyway -- it;s not necessary
[05:26] <Mortice> vlt: i've just opened konqueror, looking for it now
[05:26] <l_r> seaLne, what do you mean?
[05:26] <l_r> seaLne, what ports?
[05:26] <SeanTater> l_r: if you want to start a service (like http), install it , (like apache)
[05:26] <SeanTater> l_r: you don;t need to open any internet ports
[05:26] <SeanTater> l_r: as in, IP ports
[05:26] <Ayabara> vlt: thanks
[05:26] <l_r> seaLne, why not?
[05:26] <l_r> SeanTater, why not
[05:27] <SeanTater> l_r: why no iptables script?
[05:27] <vlt> l_r: You need iptables for instance for blocking ports. If you don't open them you only ight need iptables for MASQUERADING stuff ...
[05:27] <Ash-Fox> I feel like hitting whoever designed kppp. Apparently there is this lovely feature whereby I can specify accounting and well, grab the latest updates or something. Now, the stupid thing is... I can only do this when I'm not connected via kppp, because that's the only time I can access the settings... Does this make any sense?
[05:28] <l_r> vlt, of course
[05:28] <l_r> vlt, i have a ssh server here and some other servers and i want to block  the ports by using both the app conf and a firewall
[05:29] <SeanTater> l_r: then use firestarter
[05:29] <l_r> i am surprised there's no script under init.d
[05:29] <SeanTater> l_r: it's easier anyway
[05:29] <l_r> or it's just that i used to use fedora
[05:29] <SeanTater> l_r: I used linspire, it did the same thing
[05:30] <l_r> SeanTater, i do not need a gui or whatever to make the rules. i usually do it manually. i need a script or service placed in init.d by default
[05:30] <SeanTater> l_r: firestarter (as in the firewall, not the GUI) is started by init by deafult AFAIK
[05:30] <DaSkreech> !away > peterpan222
[05:30] <SeanTater> l_r: if you want a script in init.d, create one
[05:30] <vlt> l_r: Why should one place an empty iptables script in init.d?
[05:31] <l_r> vlt, why empty?
[05:31] <l_r> vlt, a "script" is one thing, "rules" is another thing
[05:32] <echo1> Can anyone tell me why a program I keep installing (make install) keeps disapearing?
[05:32] <l_r> i think you are confusing
[05:32] <SeanTater> l_r: I believe launchpad has a bug report concerning this
[05:32] <v3ctor> most iptables *scripts* contain rules
[05:32] <SeanTater> l_r: but last time i checked, it was for the most part abandoned
[05:33] <l_r> v3ctor, again, rules is not the point
[05:33] <Mr0bvious> echo1: You generally don't need to compile.
[05:33] <Mr0bvious> echo1: What are you trying to compile?
[05:33] <SeanTater> l_r: a iptables script is just a set of rules, so a script without rules is empty. (where am I missing something)
[05:34] <l_r> false
[05:34] <echo1> yakuake, not in the repository
[05:34] <v3ctor> SeanTater: i am with you
[05:34] <vlt> Mortice: Maybe the settings to add a site to trusted ones is sourced out to some more global KDE settings?
[05:34] <Mr0bvious> echo1: Which program?
[05:34] <echo1> ive compiled it a good 2 or 3 times now and it works fine but ill turn off my comp (lappy) and it wont be there!
[05:34] <SeanTater> l_r: do you have an example of something else a iptables script might contain
[05:34] <Ayabara> I'm running utorrent under wine. the session manager doesn't reopen this when I restart the computer. How can I add utorrent to the programs loaded at startup and let the session manager handle the rest?
[05:34] <l_r> being the script in init.d, a script would start the iptables service , take care of loading the rules, saving them on exit, etcc....
[05:34] <l_r> it's not so difficult to understand
[05:34] <echo1> MrObvious: yakuake (pop down terminal)
[05:34] <SeanTater> l_r: iptables is part of the kernel, AFAIK
[05:34] <l_r> i think
[05:34] <Mortice> vlt: i guess it must be. Having no luck finding it, either in konqi or on the web
[05:35] <Mr0bvious> Ayabara: You do know there are native ilnux torrent clients? err linux
[05:35] <v3ctor> systems and setups differe vastly between computer, there is no way they could/should generate a generic iptables setup by defualt
[05:35] <l_r> SeanTater, ok, just do not forget to say AFAIK :)
[05:35] <Mr0bvious> paul@upstairs:~$ apt-cache search yakuake
[05:35] <Mr0bvious> yakuake - Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator
[05:35] <vlt> l_r: The only advantage of "loading" iptables at staurtup I can imagine is the initialising of byte and packet counters ...
[05:36] <Mr0bvious> echo1: Do you have multiverse and universe installed? I have it here.
[05:36] <echo1> hmm
[05:36] <l_r> SeanTater, man iptables
[05:37] <Ayabara> MrObvius: I know :-). Don't like azureus, don't like clients withouth a GUI, and I'm not able to get the same dl speeds from ktorrent that I do from utorrent. Open for new suggestions though :-)
[05:37] <Mr0bvious> Ayabara: Try bittorrent or bittornado?
[05:37] <Ayabara> MrObvious, I meant
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !info yakuake > echo1
[05:37] <Ash-Fox> Ayabara, use the original bittorent.
[05:37] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[05:37] <Jucato> Ayabara: have you tried the latest KTorrent available in dapper-backports ?
[05:37] <Mr0bvious> I've used one of them (can't remember) and it does ok.
[05:38] <Ayabara> Jucato, not if it was released the last couple of days
[05:38] <Ayabara> Ash-Fox, is there a gui for that one?
[05:38] <Jucato> KTorrent 2.0.1 is now available in dapper-backports. (The default Kubuntu install has KTorrent 1.2)
[05:38] <Ash-Fox> Ayabara, yes.
[05:39] <echo1> Ok, I'm new to kubuntu/linux (been yeeaaaars since ive used it) and adept won't start, it jsut crashed.  How do I find its process number so i can kill it?
[05:39] <Hawkwind> echo1: ps aux | grep adept
[05:39] <Ayabara> Ash-Fox, Jucato, Mr0bvious : thanks for the input. I don't really like having to run wine myself, so I'll try out your tips
[05:39] <Ash-Fox> echo1, I'd just use killall, a lot easier.
[05:39] <Hawkwind> echo1: Or run 'top'
[05:39] <v3ctor> ps -e| grep adept
[05:40] <Jucato> echo1: press Ctrl+Esc and see if "adept" is really still running...
[05:40] <Mr0bvious> Ayabara: You're welcome.
[05:40] <echo1> it's running a whooole bunch of instances
[05:40] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, wouldn't he have a problem killing a root application? :P
[05:40] <Jucato> Ayabara: no problem
[05:40] <Ash-Fox> echo1, killall.
[05:40] <vlt> Any idea where to add websites/domains to "trusted sites" in konqueror?
[05:40] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: well, it would be good if he checked first if it was left running at all :)
[05:41] <Jucato> echo1: "sudo killall adept"
[05:41] <echo1> thank you
[05:42] <echo1> Now how do I add the multiverse and universe repositories
[05:42] <MenZa> !multiverse > echo1
[05:43] <MenZa> (If that bot is even in here)
[05:43] <Jucato> echo1: or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:43] <echo1> it is
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Seriously?
[05:43] <MenZa> Right, I was wondering how I'd set my default login manager as KDM rather than GDM? dpkg reconfiguring gdm and setting kdm as my default one doesn't seem to work
[05:43] <Mr0bvious> MenZa: You did install kdm right?
[05:44] <Mr0bvious> Sorry gotta ask the obvious :p
[05:44] <MenZa> Mr0bvious: I assume it comes with kubuntu-desktop?
[05:44] <Mr0bvious> lol
[05:44] <MenZa> If not, I didn't.
[05:44] <Mr0bvious> sudo apt-get install kdm
[05:44] <Mr0bvious> That'll tell you right away
[05:44] <MenZa> Exactly :)
[05:44] <MenZa> It is installed.
[05:45] <Ayabara> Jucato, is the 2.0.2 version of ktorrent in the repos yet?
[05:45] <Jucato> Ayabara: not yet, AFAIK
[05:47] <echo1> Anyone have recommendations for the best wireless manager?  Wireless Assistant seems very...simple
[05:48] <MenZa> Mr0bvious: So... any idea what the problem is?
[05:51] <Mr0bvious> MenZa: Uhh. I'd need to do some googing
[05:51] <Mr0bvious> *googling
[05:51] <Mr0bvious> Good grief I can't type this morning.
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> echo1: Just raw wpa_supplicant is fine for me
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> echo1: Maybe wpagui
[05:54] <vlt> Any idea where to add websites/domains to "trusted sites" in konqueror?
[05:55] <MenZa> Mr0bvious: alright :)
[05:55] <Jucato> vlt: I'm not entirely sure, but maybe in Settings > Configure Konqueror > Crypto ?
[05:56] <Mr0bvious> MenZa: Found it
[05:56] <Mr0bvious> paul@upstairs:~$ cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:56] <Mr0bvious> /usr/sbin/gdm
[05:56] <vlt> Jucato: already looked there but can't find it.
[05:57] <Jucato> MenZa: have you tried editing /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:57] <Mr0bvious> Edit that with the path to kdm
[05:57] <Jucato> rawr
[05:57] <MenZa> Jucato: I haven't
[05:57] <Mr0bvious> w00t
[05:57] <MenZa> I could do that
[05:57] <Jucato> Mr0bvious beat me to it :)
[05:57] <Electrolyte> Does anyone know how to set more buttons via mice?
[05:57] <Mr0bvious> I win!
[05:57] <Jucato> lol
[05:57] <MenZa> and where's the path to km? /etc/init.d/kdm ?
[05:57] <Electrolyte> I have a mouse with 7 buttons, but only 3 of them work.
[05:57] <Electrolyte> I want the 4th one to work so I can use it with TeamSpeak.
[05:57] <Jucato> MenZa: kdm is /usr/bin/kdm
[05:57] <Hawkwind> Jucato: On my screen you won though :P
[05:58] <MenZa> Jucato: it's set to that already
[05:58] <MenZa> hm.
[05:58] <MenZa> reboot.
[05:58] <Jucato> MenZa: I thought you were trying to change it to GDM?
[05:58] <MenZa> I don't understand though; killing x should be enough
[05:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: eheh :)
[05:58] <MenZa> Nope, to KDE
[05:58] <MenZa> KDM*
[05:58] <echo1_> Can anyone think of a good reason knetworkmanager wont connect to the wifi network but "Network Manager" will?  It seems knet[...]  hangs on "configure device"
[05:58] <Jucato> MenZa: that should work. no need to reboot though
[05:58] <Mr0bvious> Play with runlevels?
[05:59] <Mr0bvious> Oh I know.
[05:59] <Jucato> MenZa:
[05:59] <Mr0bvious> ps aux | grep gdm
[05:59] <Jucato> MenZa: just restart X
[05:59] <Mr0bvious> I think gdm likes to stay running unless you kill it
[05:59] <Jucato> (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop)
[06:00] <MenZa> Jucato: that hasn't worked so far
[06:00] <Jucato> hmm...
[06:01] <Jucato> did you try stopping gdm as Mr0bvious suggested?
[06:01] <MenZa> Jucato: I didn't actually
[06:01] <MenZa> but it works now
[06:01] <MenZa> After a reboot
[06:01] <Jucato> ah
[06:01] <Mr0bvious> Reboot.
[06:01] <MenZa> now I'm off to get a better login screen
[06:01] <Mr0bvious> Yay
[06:01] <MenZa> too candy-ish.
[06:01] <Hawkwind> MenZa: If you have the default set to kdm instead of gdm if you reboot it will start kdm instead
[06:01] <Jucato> heh
[06:01] <Mr0bvious> Hawkwind: Way to be late there buddy :p
[06:01] <MenZa> which is exactly what I wanted, Hawkwind :)
[06:02] <Hawkwind> Mr0bvious: I told him to kill gdm, that won't work
[06:02] <Mr0bvious> Hawkwind: No, he already rebooted. lol
[06:02] <MenZa> There we go; sweet blue candy.
[06:02] <MenZa> I started with KDE, went onto Gnome later, used that for a long time, now I'm back with KDE
[06:02] <MenZa> :s
[06:03] <Jucato> Welcome home :)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> MenZa: E :-)
[06:03] <Mr0bvious> MenZa: Try E17
[06:03] <MenZa> Jucato: :D
[06:03] <Mr0bvious> :D
[06:03] <MenZa> Mr0bvious: too beta-esque, still I think
[06:03] <MenZa> no?
[06:03] <Hawkwind> Bahhhhhhhhh
[06:03] <Mr0bvious> Eh, buggy sometimes yes. But it's very pretty and usable.
[06:03] <Jucato> rawr! Hawkwind did you hear that?
[06:03] <Hawkwind> http://SeerOfSouls.com/screenshots/Hawkwind14.png
[06:04] <Hawkwind> If you call that beta!
[06:04] <Mr0bvious> Raster does a good job keeping things bug free, and so do the other devs.
[06:04] <Jucato> lol
[06:04] <Mr0bvious> !away
[06:04] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:04] <Hawkwind> LOL @ away
[06:04] <MenZa> Hawkwind: your x-chat looks horrid, but otherwise nice
[06:04] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ok... deep breaths, deep breaths....
[06:04] <Hawkwind> If ya'll would ignore all away messages you'd never see them
[06:04] <Hawkwind> MenZa: Personal opinion :P
[06:05] <Jucato> lol
[06:05] <mone> c qualke italiano?
[06:05] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I don't like the xchat colors either. :P
[06:05] <Hawkwind> !it
[06:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:05] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It's just a GTK2 theme is all it is
[06:05] <MenZa> any keyboard shortcut to show desktop--like the Windows key and D on Windows+
[06:05] <Hawkwind> Jucato: I'm thinking of making my own actually
[06:05] <Jucato> MenZa: Ctrl+Alt+D
[06:05] <DaSkreech> !it > mone
[06:05] <MenZa> thanks
[06:05] <Jucato> lol
[06:05] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: A bit late
[06:06] <DaSkreech> :-P That's cause I was starting at your stupid screenshot
[06:06] <mone> thx
[06:06] <Jucato> lol
[06:06] <Mr0bvious> IRSSI FTW!
[06:06] <Hawkwind> Stupid ?  You're just jealous that you can't make E17 look like that :P
[06:06] <Mr0bvious> oops
[06:07] <Pensacola> is there a batch-image convertor available for kubuntu?
[06:07] <Hawkwind> Pensacola: ImageMagick ?
[06:07] <Mortice> !info image-magick
[06:07] <ubotu> Package image-magick does not exist in any distro I know
[06:08] <Mortice> !info imagemagick
[06:08] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.2 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[06:08] <Pensacola> thanks
[06:08] <Mortice> Pensacola: that should do all you need and more.
[06:08] <Pensacola> :)
[06:08] <MenZa> Ooo, Hawkwind
[06:08] <MenZa> Flock
[06:08] <MenZa> Good man.
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Have you messed with the GL rendering core of e17 ? (enlightenment_remote -default-engine-set GL - after you reenable it)
[06:08] <Hawkwind> MenZa: I don't use it though :P
[06:08] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Nope not at all
[06:08] <MenZa> Anyway, how do I install KDM themes?
[06:09] <Hawkwind> !kdm
[06:09] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[06:09] <Jucato> MenZa: I suggest downloading "kdmtheme" to make that easier
[06:09] <Hawkwind> Real helpful ubotu
[06:09] <MenZa> Jucato: thanks
[06:09] <Jucato> Hawkwind: actually...
[06:09] <Jucato> !kdmtheme
[06:09] <ubotu> kdmtheme: Theme switcher for Kdm. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 70 kB, installed size 212 kB
[06:09] <Jucato> :P
[06:10] <holy_cow> anyone use Kdevelop for C
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Now that I'm back from your stupid screenshot that's a prefectly good reason to justify it being being stupid
[06:11] <Jucato> :p
[06:11] <MenZa> Jucato: any shortcut to run konsole?
[06:11] <MenZa> Keyboard shortcut, that is
[06:11] <MenZa> I'm lazy
[06:11] <Jucato> MenZa: nope, but you can make your own :)
[06:11] <MenZa> (And it's a touchpad)
[06:11] <MenZa> Jucato: :D
[06:11] <Jucato> MenZa: right-click on the Konsole entry in K Menu and select Edit Item
[06:11] <MenZa> And I would do that how, Jucato?
[06:11] <MenZa> Ah
[06:11] <h3sp4wn> use katapult
[06:11] <Jucato> MenZa: darn I forgot about Katapult :)
[06:12] <Jucato> lol thanks h3sp4wn!
[06:12] <MenZa> Jucato: Katapult is too slow for me though; I'd like a direct one
[06:12] <Jucato> MenZa: ok then proceed as instructed :)
[06:12] <MenZa> Got it, Jucato. Thanks :)
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> 0.5 seconds I would say to press the keys to start konsole from katapult
[06:13] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: but then you'd have to type some letters..
[06:13] <MenZa> yep
[06:13] <mariux> if i have 6.06 on a dvd, should i download 6.06.1 or is it available through apt-get update?
[06:13] <MenZa> CTRL+K is nicer for me.
[06:13] <Jucato> and pray that there's nothing that precedes "Kons" alphabetically in K Menu...
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: I am lazy in some respects but that doesn't bother me
[06:13] <Jucato> heh
[06:14] <Hawkwind> mariux: If you install 6.06 and update it completely then you have 6.06.1
[06:14] <mariux> thanks
[06:14] <MenZa> Argh, I forgot the shortcut to Katapult. Someone enlighten me?
[06:14] <Hawkwind> alt-space ?
[06:14] <DaSkreech> MenZa: or if you have Konqueror open a lot just Press F4
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> What ever you set it as (I use control escape - but alt space is default)
[06:15] <MenZa> Right, DaSkreech
[06:15] <MenZa> and Hawkwind
[06:15] <MenZa> Thanks.
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> What is the kde terminal that opens when you press F12 called
[06:15] <massy> hello everybody
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> (Useless to me in e17 but its pretty good)
[06:15] <MenZa> How would i run kdmtheme, jaaroo?
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> starts with a y
[06:15] <MenZa> er.
[06:15] <MenZa> Jucato*
[06:16] <Jucato> MenZa: System Settings > KDM Theme Manager
[06:16] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: yakuake
[06:16] <MenZa> Jucato: right.
[06:16] <Mr0bvious> Whoever named yakuake must be asian.
[06:17] <beligum> Hi all, I'm looking for packagers to packages the ScreenKast program
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> It sounds japanese to me
[06:17] <Jucato> japanese probably...
[06:17] <v3ctor> no
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Mr0bvious: WHy?
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> beligum: libinstrudeo has to be fixed first
[06:17] <v3ctor> it is based on the quake consle
[06:17] <ironfroggy> im having some weird trouble. i changed my server to a static IP instead of using DHCP, and now i cant access my samba shares on it from one box but i can from the other.
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Yet Another Kuake
[06:17] <Jucato> aaah ok...
[06:17] <Jucato> but still sounds japanese :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> You can also install Kuake :)
[06:17] <ironfroggy> weirder still, i can access them from that box using the kioslave, but not the cifs mount.
[06:17] <Mr0bvious> DaSkreech: It sounds like that.
[06:17] <MenZa> Keyboard shortcuts is great.
[06:17] <Mr0bvious> :p
[06:18] <Ash-Fox> yakuake?
[06:18] <v3ctor> (ya)kuake is 'yet another' kuake
[06:18] <MenZa> are, even
[06:18] <beligum> h3sp4wn, I updated it, together with screenkast to version 0.1.3
[06:18] <Mr0bvious> ironfroggy: Firewalls anywhere?
[06:18] <Mr0bvious> That's what I'd check.
[06:18] <ironfroggy> Mr0bvious: not within my own network, no
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> beligum: Does it have the parts of ffmpeg it needs included in it now ?
[06:18] <Mr0bvious> ironfroggy: I changed from DHCP -> static and I had to update my router to make sure it pointed to .200 instead of .10x
[06:18] <Ash-Fox> !fwbuilder
[06:19] <ubotu> fwbuilder: Firewall administration tool GUI. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.9-1 (dapper), package size 1172 kB, installed size 3600 kB
[06:19] <Mr0bvious> (on my IP)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> beligum: screenkast?
[06:19] <ironfroggy> Mr0bvious: now, i can ping the server from this box, and i can ssh into it, but any samba operations give me a "Host is down" error
[06:20] <beligum> h3sp4wn, I removed libflv, libsc1394, libgsm and libdts dependencies
[06:20] <beligum> DaSkreech: screenkast and libinstrudeo
[06:20] <Mr0bvious> ironfroggy: The only thing I can think of is that your samba configuration needs to be updated with the new IP.
[06:21] <ironfroggy> Mr0bvious: done that :-/
[06:21] <Mr0bvious> Hmm.
[06:21] <Mr0bvious> No clue.
[06:22] <MenZa> How do I choose where applications are located in Kicker?
[06:22] <Jucato> MenZa: what do you mean?
[06:22] <ironfroggy> i think its because it was still mounted with the old settings
[06:22] <DaSkreech> What does screenkast do?
[06:23] <ironfroggy> but it wont let me unmount it. says its mounted multiple times.
[06:23] <MenZa> Jucato: Flock is located in Lost&Found atm
[06:23] <beligum> screen capturing program
[06:23] <CVirus> DaSkreech: RTFM
[06:23] <MenZa> KMenu*
[06:23] <MenZa> :s
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !info screenkast
[06:23] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in any distro I know
[06:23] <Orolab> Hi
[06:23] <MenZa> Freudian slip, Jucato
[06:23] <Jucato> MenZa: aaah. Right-click on it, Edit Item, then in the menu editor, drag it to where you want it to be...
[06:23] <DaSkreech> CVirus: Where is it? :)
[06:23] <beligum> http://sourceforge.net/projects/screenkast/
[06:23] <CVirus> DaSkreech: sudo apt-cache show screenkast
[06:23] <Electrolyte> What's the command to change the nice on a process?
[06:23] <CVirus> its not in the tree
[06:23] <Electrolyte> I need to lower one to Lowest/Idle.
[06:23] <beligum> no, screenkast isn't in any repo yet, that's why I'm here
[06:24] <MenZa> Jucato: :D--thanks :D
[06:24] <CVirus> beligum: who are you ?
[06:24] <daniloc> anybody knows Spain ?
[06:24] <beligum> Creator of ScreenKast, libinstrudeo and http://captorials.com
[06:24] <CVirus> daniloc: never heard about it ... whats your technical question ?
[06:24] <CVirus> beligum: pleased to meet you
[06:25] <beligum> likewise :)
[06:25] <CVirus> beligum: have you got a .deb ready ?
[06:25] <darky> where do i get real cool kde-icon-themes, except for kde-look.org?
[06:25] <beligum> no, not yet, but I have a fully functional debian dir in the source
[06:25] <Jucato> hm.... kde-look.org? heh...
[06:25] <daniloc> Spanish lanugage ?
[06:25] <zorgluuu> beligum: does it support recording the mic ?
[06:25] <beligum> (I have a .deb for 0.1.2, but I'd like to get in the 'official' repo)
[06:25] <MenZa> !es > daniloc
[06:25] <MenZa> ?
[06:25] <beligum> zorgluuu, no, not yet
[06:26] <darky> Jucato: to less icon-themes
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> beligum: If its already ready then ask in #kubuntu-devel and someone will probably do it for you
[06:26] <DaSkreech> beligum: Dood!! We so need this
[06:26] <Jucato> darky: some of the icons are not categorized under icon themes, but just plain icons... I don't know why...
[06:26] <zorgluuu> beligum: so it is planned.. nice. important feature
[06:26] <beligum> DaSkreech, mic support, or the ScreenKast program?
[06:26] <Mr0bvious> http://thegrebs.com/~bendy/ubumtu.png
[06:26] <CVirus> DaSkreech: Dood ?
[06:26] <Mr0bvious> http://thegrebs.com/~bendy/ubumtu.png
[06:26] <Mr0bvious> Err crap.
[06:26] <Mr0bvious> Don't click that.
[06:26] <ironfroggy> how can i have something mounted multiple times?
[06:26] <Hawkwind> Mr0bvious: Stop pasting that here
[06:26] <Mr0bvious> Accident.
[06:26] <Mr0bvious> Sorry folks.
[06:26] <zorgluuu> beligum: im aware of time limitation for the dev tho :)
[06:27] <Jucato> ironfroggy: hmm.. no? once it's mounted, it's mounted
[06:27] <beligum> lol
[06:27] <DaSkreech> beligum: The screenkast
[06:27] <beligum> DaSkreech, I know, that's why I wrote it (took me a year)
[06:27] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Explain?
[06:27] <ironfroggy> MrObvious: no, i mean im getting an error that its mounted multiple times and it wont let me umount.
[06:28] <beligum> I'll try #kubuntu-devel
[06:28] <ironfroggy> looks like its mounted both as a normal cifs mount and with automount (which i dont want to use)
[06:28] <Hawkwind> beligum: You have debs built of it already you said ?
[06:29] <beligum> Hawkind, yes, but not for 0.1.3
[06:29] <beligum> http://instrudeo.bpower2.com/packages/
[06:29] <beligum> I'd like to get in 'some official repo' as from 0.1.3
[06:31] <Hawkwind> beligum: Yeah I can understand that.  Kubuntu-devel is definitely a good place to ask
[06:31] <ironfroggy> how do i unmount automounted shares?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> !no
[06:31] <ironfroggy> im getting device busy errors, but im not using it.
[06:31] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[06:32] <CVirus> ironfroggy: make sure you arent cd'ed into any of the shares
[06:32] <CVirus> ironfroggy: and make sure no fle manager is accessing the filesystem you want to unmount
[06:32] <ironfroggy> checked all that. does automount keep hold of them for any reason?
[06:33] <CVirus> ironfroggy: no idea .. try this ... umount -f /dev/xxx
[06:33] <ironfroggy> its not a device. its a samba share.
[06:33] <CVirus> ironfroggy: no idea really
[06:33] <ironfroggy> and i tried it with that, and it still didnt work
[06:37] <v3ctor> does it give error?
[06:41] <Pensacola> how to batch convert with imagemagick?
[06:42] <mighty-d> hi, where can i find local superkaramba theme files?
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !grub
[06:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> Mugh: Please turn off the annoying away messages
[06:43] <Mugh> ok, sorry
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !away
[06:43] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:44] <v3ctor> Pensacola: http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3894
[06:46] <richardh_> Hi, Kubuntu won't shut down anymore, only a blank black screen when trying to. Any ideas?
[06:48] <jgf> hi
[06:49] <MenZa> How do you change the splash skin?
[06:54] <BadWolf> hi... i have a problem....  amarok can't play mp3's, mpg123, xmms and vlc too, but mplayer can.... i've just installed easyubuntu but it still doesn't work
[06:54] <Ayabara> is gimp the choice for image editing, or is there a more novice-friendly program out there?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > BadWolf
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Ayabara, krita myabe
[06:55] <Jucato> BadWolf: for amarok, you would need libxine-extracodecs for mp3's
[06:58] <BadWolf> Jucato: don't have such a package... can you give me some useful entries for my sources.list?
[06:59] <Jucato> BadWolf: you would need to enable/add the "multiverse" repository: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:02] <shocktrooper1> I'm using sudo to sh autogen files and make, make install but get 'permission denied' when running the commands
[07:02] <shocktrooper1> I tried chmod +x
[07:02] <shocktrooper1> but no help
[07:03] <ironfroggy> how can i get one box on my network to find another box on my network by hostname?
[07:04] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Have you setup dns for your internal network ?
[07:05] <shocktrooper1> do I need another command to obtain permission?
[07:05] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: i have not. i wasnt sure how to do that, in that how does any box find the dns server?
[07:05] <ironfroggy> if it needs it to lookup its own hostname?
[07:06] <mariux> hi the installer crashed on installing the bootloader, but i managed to boot using my old one (though im using my gentoo kernel because of it right now), how do i make it install the bootloader again?
[07:06] <user03> Heya
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: setup dns server / dhcp server (with static assignment by mac address)
[07:06] <abattoir>  mariux: was your root file system xfs ?
[07:06] <mariux> yes
[07:06] <abattoir> mariux: grub and xfs are known to have issues
[07:06] <Blissex> mariux: which bootloader? Anyhow there is somewhere on the wiki how to reinstall the bootloader, e.g. after windows install.
[07:06] <mariux> then i want lilo
[07:07] <abattoir> mariux: the solution would be to choose a non-xfs root system...
[07:07] <mariux> gentoo had no problem booting my xfs partition
[07:07] <mariux> using lilo
[07:07] <abattoir> mariux: or you must create a separate /boot partition(which is non xfs of course)
[07:07] <abattoir> mariux: yes, lilo works fine with xfs
[07:07] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: so what is the easiest dns server in apt?
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: dnsmasq
[07:08] <mariux> ahh, all the work
[07:08] <abattoir> !lilo
[07:08] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[07:08] <mariux> btw, is the dnotify thing fixed in kubuntu now?
[07:08] <abattoir> mariux: ^^^^
[07:08] <D4rkly> ive upgraded to the latest compiz now i have no frames on my windows ?
[07:08] <h3sp4wn> Or just compile a working version of grub (It is supposed to be able to boot xfs)
[07:09] <mariux> last time i tried kubuntu dnotify kept hogging the cpu and causing my laptop battery to run out
[07:09] <mariux> is that still a problem?
[07:09] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: technically the version that ships w/ dapper should support xfs, but for some reason doesnt work
[07:09] <abattoir> mariux: which version was that? Breezy?
[07:09] <mariux> it was dapper
[07:10] <h3sp4wn> abattoir: I know but I am betting it is possible to get it to work
[07:10] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: dont know, the installer gets spooked and crashes( the Graphical one, i.e)
[07:10] <abattoir> h3sp4wn: havent explored deeper into it :P
[07:11] <mariux> ok, ill reinstall using a non-xfs fs then
[07:11] <abattoir> mariux: i'm not exactly sure( i though inotify was being used)...
[07:11] <mariux> no, dont think so
[07:11] <abattoir> oh, ok, because i didnt face anything like that.
[07:12] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: ok, one more question, where do i map the hostnames to IPs for the dns server? does it get them from /etc/hosts?
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> mariux: If you have /boot on ext3 it will be fine
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> mariux: rest can be xfs
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Yes it does yes (machinename    192.168.10.7) for example - leave the domain name out
[07:13] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: 192.168.10.7        machinename (sorry) - its not something I use alot so don't remember it
[07:15] <dhq> how do i reconfigure my xserver no displaydevice found
[07:16] <dhq> help
[07:16] <abattoir> duh
[07:18] <richardhd_> Hi, Kubuntu doesn't shut down properly anymore...any ideas why?
[07:20] <ironfroggy> adding a nameserver entry in /etc/resolve.conf should use that as a dns server to lookup hosts, right?
[07:22] <javaaanse> #hello
[07:22] <javaaanse> -#
[07:23] <Blissex> ironfroggy: for newly started processes yes.
[07:30] <javaaanse> i have a problem with installing kubuntu
[07:30] <javaaanse> the partition-tool will not work
[07:30] <richardhd_> Anyone know why Kubuntu won't shut down?
[07:30] <foe> what does it says?
[07:31] <foe> may X problems richardhd_
[07:31] <foe> currently i have the same problem
[07:31] <richardhd_> foe: and can I remedy this?
[07:32] <foe> dunno im trying to fix it too... did u change something on ur xorg.conf file?
[07:32] <richardhd_> yes, I installed the ATI driver
[07:33] <dhq> how do i get the default setting of xorg.conf
[07:33] <Hawkwind> dhq: You can run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and check the defaults and it should give you pretty much a basic xorg.conf file
[07:33] <Hawkwind> dhq: I'd make backups of your current one first though
[07:33] <abattoir> dhq: or 'sudo dexconf' would give you a 'default' xorg.conf
[07:34] <foe> i installed the ati driver too
[07:34] <abattoir> javaaanse: could you explain a bit more?
[07:34] <foe> and then everything begins to *** up
[07:34] <foe> maybe looking at the xorg.conf file we could fix it
[07:36] <D4rkly> where can i find this ?
[07:36] <D4rkly> go to system -> prefs -> sessions -> startup programs
[07:36] <abattoir> D4rkly: where did you see it?
[07:37] <D4rkly> on compiz forums
[07:37] <D4rkly> go to system -> prefs -> sessions -> startup programs and put in "/usr/bin/compiz-start"
[07:37] <whizz-> how do i change a vfat filesystem into ext3 ?
[07:37] <abattoir> i think it might be gnome-specific
[07:37] <abattoir> D4rkly: ^^
[07:37] <trappist> whizz-: you delete the partition and recreate it
[07:37] <Mortice> whizz: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/whateveritis"
[07:38] <Mortice> whizz-: bear in mind that doing this will cause all your data on that partition to go poof.
[07:38] <D4rkly> is there no app to edit the sessions startup ?
[07:38] <D4rkly> in kde
[07:38] <whizz-> Mortice: i am aware of that :)
[07:39] <Mortice> whizz-: Just making sure. Would hate to tell someone how to do something like that if they didn't know. O.o
[07:39] <trappist> D4rkly: the only thing I know to do is to drop scripts or .desktop files into ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:39] <D4rkly> ok :)
[07:40] <ironfroggy> i have added "nameserver <IP>" to /etc/resolve.conf and the entries on that machines /etc/hosts dont seem to be resolved from this box. am i missing a step?
[07:40] <lupine_85> surely it's /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:41] <ironfroggy> yeah thats what i meant
[07:41] <lupine_85> but the /etc/hosts is machine-specific anyway, IIRC
[07:41] <trappist> ironfroggy: that machine needs to be running a nameserver.  and yeah, you need to spell resolv.conf right :)
[07:41] <ironfroggy> i installed a dns server
[07:41] <lupine_85> BIND won't pull data from /etc/hosts, I think
[07:41] <ironfroggy> what is BIND?
[07:41] <lupine_85> a DNS server :)
[07:41] <abattoir> D4rkly: Kcontrol->Kde components->Session manager ?
[07:42] <lupine_85> can't comment on what other DNS servers might or might not do, but I doubt any would be broken enough to use /etc/hosts
[07:42] <ironfroggy> i installed dnsmasq, which says it reads /etc/hosts
[07:42] <abattoir> D4rkly: dont know what you want to do exactly though
[07:42] <ironfroggy> whats wrong with using /etc/hosts? thats what the file exists for
[07:42] <lupine_85> it's machine-specific
[07:43] <ironfroggy> yes and i want to keep the same names available on all my machines
[07:43] <lupine_85> what's the point in using it? by default /etc/hosts is pretty identical
[07:43] <ironfroggy> still, dnsmasq says it reads that but it doesnt seem to be working.
[07:43] <lupine_85> except, of course, mapping "hostname" to 127.0.0.1 ...
[07:43] <ironfroggy> lupine_85: identical to what?
[07:43] <lupine_85> ...each other
[07:43] <ironfroggy> ive added hostnames on that server, obviously, which i want available elsewhere
[07:44] <lupine_85> I'd suggest that you install a real DNS ;)
[07:44] <lupine_85> but that's just me
[07:44] <lupine_85> do you really want all your machines to be mapping "dns-master-server.my.domain" to 127.0.0.1 ?
[07:44] <joe___> I'm trying to schedule some really simple scripts that use dcop with cron. If I invoke the script from a shell, it works fine, but it doesn't work when scheduled with cron. Any ideas?
[07:45] <lupine_85> (that should be in your /etc/hosts)
[07:45] <trappist> joe___: try putting the full path to dcop
[07:45] <ironfroggy> lupine_85: i dont know what that is meant to be
[07:46] <abattoir> !pastebin > daniloc
[07:46] <lupine_85> ok... every machine has a hostname, which is mapped to 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts
[07:46] <lupine_85> localhost is one; my pc is also called "nick"
[07:46] <trappist> joe___: also, are you putting it in *your* crontab?
[07:46] <lupine_85> so your PC running dnsmasq will map "dnsmasq-server" (or whatever it's caled) to 127.0.0.1
[07:46] <lupine_85> if it then starts distributing that via DNS....
[07:47] <trappist> that would rip a hole in time and space
[07:47] <lupine_85> (I don't *know* that this will happen, but it sounds overwhelmingly likely)
[07:47] <lupine_85> just install BIND and be done with it - zone files are not scary :)
[07:47] <lupine_85> also means you won't have to rely on your upstream for name resolution
[07:48] <joe___> trappist: thanks. I thought it was probably something like that (me not using cron correctly) but I put a dummy job in that would just touch a cron_works file in my home directory, and that works. So I'm pretty sure I'm using cron correctly
[07:48] <lupine_85> vixie-cron is a PITA
[07:48] <trappist> joe___: did you see my question
[07:48] <lupine_85> I've been trying to get it to run logwatch for me and it won't
[07:49] <abattoir> !X > daniloc
[07:49] <joe___> trappist: yes, its my crontab. I do "crontab -u joe -e" where joe is my username
[07:50] <lupine_85> I've tried exec and quotes... no luck
[07:50] <trappist> joe___: and have you tried giving the full path to dcop in the cron job
[07:50] <whizz-> i want to have /home on a different partition than the main install is on, how do i do that?
[07:50] <claudiu> hi everybody
[07:51] <lupine_85> whizz-: cp -a your current /home contents to / on the new partition, then set up fstab accordingly
[07:51] <joe___> trappist: yes.
[07:51] <lupine_85> e.g. /dev/hd?? /home ext3 defaults 0 1
[07:52] <lupine_85> then bite the bullet, remove your current /home contents, and mount -a
[07:52] <claudiu> why does every download from www.kde-look.org use kate or kwrite instead of kget ? is there a misconfiguration on the server ?
[07:52] <trappist> joe___: try this: make a script with a #!/bin/bash in, say, /usr/local/bin and call that script from the cron job
[07:52] <whizz-> thx lupine_85
[07:52] <lupine_85> (probably best to also cp -a /home /home-backup just in case)
[07:53] <abattoir> claudiu: i think so, try save link as
[07:53] <joe___> trappist: I've already done that too. No luck.
[07:53] <joe___> trappist: but, the script works fine if I just invoke it from the command line
[07:53] <trappist> joe___: I'm thinking there's an env var or something that's not available to cron, but I can't imagine what it would be
[07:54] <claudiu> abattoir: i thougth so. "Save as" looses the name of the file , making it download.php instead
[07:54] <joe___> trappist: yeah
[07:54] <abattoir> claudiu: could you give me the link please?
[07:54] <trappist> joe___: you could have that script dump env info to a file
[07:55] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[07:55] <joe___> trappist: thats an idea
[07:55] <JohnFlux> I just updated to edgy
[07:55] <lupine_85> any good?
[07:55] <JohnFlux> it broke X :(
[07:55] <lupine_85> lol
[07:55] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1
[07:56] <JohnFlux> I can't get X working.. it's trying to run it at the wrong frequency
[07:56] <JohnFlux> I can't see why
[07:56] <claudiu> abattoir: thats it http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23013
[07:57] <claudiu> abattoir: the DOWNLOAD link on this page has this problem. But I have seen so many on www.kde-look.org and in www.kde-apps.org also
[07:57] <abattoir> claudiu: i'm not sure if its a server-side issuer or a problem w/ konqueror...
[07:58] <claudiu> abattoir: especially with the deb files. I really can't download any deb file from this sites using konqueror
[07:58] <claudiu> abattoir: can you test it with konqueror ?
[07:58] <abattoir> claudiu: i am
[07:58] <abattoir> it brings up kate... as you said
[07:59] <claudiu> abattoir: maybe its related to misconfig of apache, i guess i'll throw an email to this site admins
[08:00] <abattoir> claudiu: hmm, i think it was raised sometime ago, they said it was a bug w/ konq. havent noticed it after that... you might as well do that :)
[08:04] <Malkav> Hey can someone give me a hand? I'm a bit stuck on installing the linux-headers package o.O
[08:05] <abattoir> Malkav: sure
[08:05] <abattoir> what do you need help with?
[08:05] <leux> hey guys, it seemsthat kubuntu can't handle mp3s... can this be right?
[08:06] <thomas> no
[08:06] <thomas> that is wrong :)
[08:06] <Mortice> !mp3
[08:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> Malkav: install kernel-headers-`uname -a | cut -f 3 -d' '`
[08:06] <Malkav> I did sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386.deb but it says it has a dependency problem and needs linux-headers-2.6.15-26
[08:06] <abattoir> leux: yes, out of the box... read those links...
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> Malkav:sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -a | cut -f 3 -d' '`
[08:06] <lupine_85> !libxine-extraplugins
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine-extraplugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <leux> i know its a stupid question, but playing them with ANY player doesn't work :)
[08:07] <abattoir> leux: read those links :)
[08:07] <Mortice> h3sp4wn: better just to install the linux-headers-386 meta-package, which will grab the right version for Malkav.
[08:07] <Mortice> Malkav: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386"
[08:07] <claudiu> abattoir: well if that is a bug in konqueror, how come ubuntu team didn't fix it ?
[08:07] <abattoir> !libxine-extracodecs
[08:07] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:07] <lupine_85> that's the one :)
[08:07] <h3sp4wn> Mortice: I doubt it (I suspect he does not have dapper-security main restricted)
[08:07] <abattoir> claudiu: well, its probably upstream, so the konq. devs would have to fix it i guess.
[08:07] <lupine_85> that + amarok is lovely
[08:07] <leux> thx, ok
[08:08] <Mortice> h3sp4wn: well that ought to be enabled too, then :)
[08:09] <BadWolf_> i want to listen to a webradio stream with amarok... but it's buffering and buffering... and no music to hear
[08:09] <h3sp4wn> Mortice: The question is whether linux-headers-386 has been updated in dapper-security to still point to the correct version (I run edgy so I don't know)
[08:10] <Malkav> None of those things seem to work. Me = newb.
[08:10] <Mortice> h3sp4wn: it appears that it has.
[08:10] <cvt|expert>                          is pastebin down?
[08:13] <stefan> tag zusammen...
[08:13] <stefan> kann mir jemand im bezug auf xgl helfen?
[08:14] <trappist> !de
[08:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:14] <claudiu> ok abattoir, I send a message to the admins of this site anyway. Good night
[08:15] <abattoir> claudiu: cool :) good night
[08:20] <dhq> how do i install gnome from cd
[08:20] <Electrolyte> dhq: Kubuntu doesn't come with gnome.
[08:20] <octan> dhq, use apt instead
[08:21] <octan> erm.. some ubuntu repo..
[08:21] <dhq> octan: i have a dvd
[08:21] <octan> dhq i have many :P
[08:22] <dhq> i have kubuntu dvd so its not availible it it
[08:22] <octan> dhq, why are you asking about gnome in kubuntu
[08:22] <recon0> Is anybody else having a problem with links not being clickable in PDF documents?
[08:22] <edward_> I am wondering what command I could download or use to display my graphics card stats in my console. I have an ATI card. With Nvidia, the command is called nvclock
[08:22] <octan> recon0 install adobe
[08:23] <dhq> octan: u see i was runnig kde havevin problems wanna try gdm
[08:23] <Electrolyte> edward_: fglrxinfo in a console - does that give what you want?
[08:23] <recon0> octan: I am already using acroread.
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> Malkav: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -a | cut -f 3 -d' '` linux-headers-386 (if one of those fails you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list - change dapper-security main to read dapper-security main restricted)
[08:23] <octan> dhq,  gdm? thats just a login manager
[08:23] <edward_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[08:24] <dhq> well wanna try a gnome desktop with xgl
[08:24] <edward_> that sounded like a solid guess electrolyte... i am running the fglrx driver
[08:24] <octan> dhq you can run xgl with kde too!
[08:24] <Electrolyte> edward_: I don't know any more commands to show the status I'm afraid.
[08:25] <octan> dhq xgl & compiz & kde is nice
[08:25] <octan> dhq, http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/screenshot/livebackgound.png
[08:25] <dhq> octan: i have display problems goinon i just installed xgl now half mu monitor cannot be seen the startbar is below the screen and no mouse ie the mouse is there but no cursor so help me
[08:26] <octan> dhq, thats xgl compiz kde and xwinwrapper,,, using an animi movie as background
[08:26] <cvt|expert> shipit.kubuntu.org not working?
[08:26] <octan> dhq did you follow the directions for installing xgl=
[08:26] <octan> ?
[08:26] <dhq> octan: you see my problem
[08:27] <recon0> I am trying to click on a link in a PDF. Is anybody else not being able to click on link?
[08:27] <dhq> octan: yes excatly second time i face this problem
[08:27] <tsdgeos> recon0: if you can't click on a link it's because it is not a link
[08:27] <tsdgeos> the fact that is blue and underlined has nothing to do with the fact it is a link or not
[08:27] <octan> dhq, read this http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632,
[08:27] <octan> dhq, read this http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632
[08:28] <recon0> tsdgeos: even though it says "click here"?
[08:28] <tsdgeos> yes
[08:28] <tsdgeos> the pdf has to give extra information
[08:28] <tsdgeos> mentioning it's a link
[08:28] <tsdgeos> also kpdf can be buggy
[08:28] <tsdgeos> but that's impossible as i'm a perfect programmer
[08:28] <tsdgeos> .
[08:29] <tsdgeos> j/k
[08:29] <tsdgeos> can i see the pdf?
[08:29] <tsdgeos> or is it private?
[08:29] <recon0> tsdgeos: CDROM ebook. I'll dcc it.
[08:29] <tsdgeos> not sure i have dcc working
[08:29] <tsdgeos> but let's try
[08:30] <recon0> tsdgeos: offered.
[08:30] <tsdgeos> clicked accept
[08:30] <tsdgeos> but i bet the router will interfere
[08:30] <tsdgeos> yeah
[08:30] <tsdgeos> see
[08:30] <tsdgeos> is it big?
[08:30] <tsdgeos> ah
[08:30] <tsdgeos> 400K :D
[08:30] <tsdgeos> can you mail it to aacid@kde.org?
[08:31] <recon0> tsdgeos: ok.
[08:31] <tsdgeos> thanx
[08:33] <tk_> hello
[08:33] <dhq> octan: i am using intel vga not navida
[08:33] <thomas> does anyone know how to deisntall nvidia graphics card drivers?
[08:34] <thomas> i am switching to ATI card...my newer nvidia is dead
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> thomas: downloaded from nvidia.com or ?
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> from apt ?
[08:34] <thomas> standard apt
[08:34] <octan> dhq then aixgl is the stuff you need
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> thomas: sudo aptitude purge nvidia~i
[08:35] <tom__> i am not getting multiverse packages in adept can anyone help ?
[08:35] <thomas> aptitude? hmmm i don't think that is installed?
[08:35] <dhq> octan: how do i get that running
[08:35] <recon0> tsdgeos: OK, I've just finished sending it. Another example is the Celestia handbook. Offers "Click here" links but won't do it.
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> thomas: I think it is by default
[08:35] <thomas> h3sp4wn: o yes it is
[08:35] <thomas> i was wrong
[08:35] <thomas> juist never heard of it
[08:36] <thomas> and i am in recovery mode atm, so no suds needed i guess
[08:36] <thomas> sudos
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> no - not needed - (I just find the regular expressions easier to use - saves remembering exact package names)_
[08:36] <tk_> hello again, i have a problem with my amarok : i have follow the instructions on the page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats to install the libs which required to play mp3 ..the problem : i cant find the package libakode2-mpeg  ... can anyone tell where i can find them ?
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> !info libakode2-mpeg
[08:37] <ubotu> libakode2-mpeg: mpeg plugins for akode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:37] <dhq> octan: how do i get that aixgl
[08:37] <[GuS] > tk_, you need libxine-extracodecs
[08:37] <[GuS] > and to enable Multiverse
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> dhq: Install xorg 7.1 or use xserver-xorg-air
[08:37] <recon0> tsdgeos: Can you contact me when you recive the file?
[08:38] <tsdgeos> just received it
[08:38] <heinkel_111> h3sp4wn: i get the message that several linux-restricted-modules packages depends on nvidia-kernel-common but it is not installable
[08:39] <dhq> octan: i have the xserver-xorg-air core and dev already installed
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx
[08:39] <tsdgeos> recon0: let me have a look
[08:39] <tk_> i have found the libxine-extracodecs but the libkode2-mpeg is missing
[08:39] <recon0> tsdgeos: OK. pls message when done.
[08:39] <hasenkamp> hello everybody... does anyone have and ati mobility x1300 and have installed kubuntu and xgl/compiz?
[08:39] <recon0> sorta a school assignment.
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: will you be using the free ati drivers or fglrx ?
[08:40] <heinkel_111> h3sp4wn:  should i keep the inux-resdtricted-mopdules?
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: It is probably easier to keep them (if you have not used aptitude upto this point - its package database will be non existant)(
[08:40] <dhq> octan: i have the xserver-xorg-air core and dev already installed
[08:41] <heinkel_111> h3sp4wn: whatever is easier. the machine won't need the dsiplay since i discovered joys of x-forwarding and remote desktop
[08:41] <heinkel_111> i just needed the gfx card to be able to reconfigure it
[08:41] <octan> dhq, google.. look in the wikis.
[08:41] <octan> dhq i use xgl
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx will get rid of nvidia binary drivers
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: Just using the free ati driver will be fine if you are just going to be using X forwarding
[08:42] <heinkel_111> and remote desktop&
[08:42] <heinkel_111> and remote desktop ?
[08:42] <oisacx> hi
[08:43] <tsdgeos> recon0: it's a bug
[08:43] <tsdgeos> can you please report it to bugs.kde.org?
[08:43] <tsdgeos> well, only do if you think you can attach the file publicly
[08:44] <tsdgeos> if you feel it's going to be bad don't
[08:44] <recon0> tsdgeos: one word: copyright suits. I'm compiling a new version of kdegraphics, though, and it might just be an outdated package.
[08:44] <tsdgeos> recon0: it's not, i ensure you
[08:44] <oisacx> I've got a little bug... when I insert a CD, the cd appears on the desktop unmounted and a window appear to ask me what to do (nothing or explore) but when the window appear, the cd on the desktop disappears and the cd is still unmounted. Is there any way to keep the cd on desktop? or to make it auto-mount himself?
[08:45] <recon0> tsdgeos: I'll just enroll the bug with the celestia handbook.
[08:45] <tsdgeos> nice
[08:45] <tom__> help help help ! not getting multiverse packages in adept
[08:46] <tsdgeos> tom__: add it to the sources :D
[08:47] <mal_> I have a long list of files returned by slocate. How can I easily delete them all?
[08:48] <etam> can You tell me why when my script is in runlevels 2, 3, 4, 5 it can not read files from disk? can I run it later than runlevel 2, 3, 4, 5?
[08:48] <oisacx> tom : did you highlight the source in adept config?
[08:49] <tommy> i need help, im trying to download the linux version of real plater from www.real.com/linux and i accomplished that but now it wont let me install it, can someone help me?
[08:51] <dhq> octan: gnome-compiz-manager requires gnome
[08:53] <esben> Is there a way to see which package a specific file originates from?
[08:54] <dhq> gnome-compiz-manager requires gnome
[08:56] <hasenkamp> XGL/COMPIZ -> i have installed the ati driver... its working but when i try to run the xgl/compiz  no window borders appear... there is some configuration i should do? i tryed the gconf but i get everything empty there no variables on the plugins etc... somebody has experimented the same problem?
[08:58] <mal_> I have a long list of files returned by slocate. How can I easily delete them all?
[08:58] <geronimo> hi
[08:58] <tommy> if anyone here is fairly good with linux please pm me
[08:58] <lupine_85> mal_ pipe them to rm
[08:58] <lupine_85> but carefully :)
[08:59] <lupine_85> erm, not pipe
[08:59] <lupine_85> rm `slocate blah` would work
[08:59] <mal_> thanks
[08:59] <geronimo> how to run gui progs as root?
[08:59] <mal_> I'll try it
[08:59] <lupine_85> geronimo: kdesu <program>
[08:59] <tommy> Im trying to install real player for linux, how do i install it?
[08:59] <lupine_85> or use the Big K->run command dialogue box
[09:00] <h3sp4wn> tommy: its in the dapper-commercial canocial repository
[09:00] <geronimo> lupine_85: kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:00] <tommy> h3sp4wn: erm ok how do i get/find that
[09:01] <h3sp4wn> tommy: Try coancials website (I don't know exactly where it is)
[09:01] <tommy> h3sp4wn: Well i found the file and downloaded it already i just dont know how to install it
[09:02] <h3sp4wn> tommy: Is it a .deb ?
[09:02] <tommy> no binary
[09:02] <heinkel_111_> h3sp4wn: i think we are done :) thank you very much for assistance. i did go with the fglrx after all
[09:02] <h3sp4wn> You should install debs if possible which in this situation is possible
[09:02] <heinkel_111>  h3sp4wn: i think we are done :) thank you ;)
[09:02] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111_: No probs
[09:03] <tommy> well i cant find it on the real website, so the only place i can find it is at the place you spoke of?
[09:04] <h3sp4wn> tommy: canocial the people who pay for ubuntu have a repository for dapper of commercial software
[09:04] <tommy> h3sp4wn: where exactly can i find/use it?
[09:06] <geronimo> how can I give the root user Xauthority?
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> tommy: I don't know - and am not willing to look - I would expect 10 seconds on google would enable you to find it (I won't help lazy people sorry)
[09:06] <Where|here> I try to "apt-get install shared-mime-info", but I get a segfault as shown at http://pastebin.ca/162667. Is there anything I can do to fix it? (I googled to no avail)
[09:07] <tommy> h3sp4wn: since you mentioned it about 2 minutes ago i've been on yahoo and google and no results were found for coancial, coancials repository or anything of the such
[09:07] <mindspin> tommy: add this to your /etc/apt/sourcs.list :http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[09:07] <tommy> mindspin: Thank you
[09:08] <mindspin> then do an sudo apt-get update and you'll find it in adept
[09:17] <geronimo> hello :)
[09:18] <geronimo> my resolution wont be over 1024x768, I've had this issue before, how can I make it 1280x1024?
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> !fixres > geronimo
[09:20] <rioux602> Hello !
[09:20] <rioux602> hello ?
[09:21] <geronimo> h3sp4wn: so I have to restart X?
[09:21] <Where|here> hi rioux602
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> geronimo: You have to follow that guide its quite comprehensive and easy to understand
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> geronimo: or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (may or not work)
[09:22] <rioux602> can someone help me .. i can't be "admin mode" in the system param.
[09:22] <geronimo> h3sp4wn: okay, thanks
[09:22] <rioux602> the red square appears and disappear without asking me my pass or anything
[09:23] <mase> hi all
[09:23] <geronimo> h3sp4wn: Connection was to help.ubuntu.com at port 443
[09:23] <rioux602> hello mase
[09:23] <mase> i want good repos list for kubuntu
[09:23] <h3sp4wn> !fixres
[09:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <MenZa> Why is amaroK saying it's attempting to insert no files into my playlist when I double click an artist in my Collection browser?
[09:24] <rioux602> dunno i hate amarok :p
[09:25] <mase> i want good repos list for kubuntu please
[09:25] <rioux602> repos ?
[09:25] <Where|here> repositories
[09:25] <Where|here> mase: did you enable the universe repo?
[09:25] <mindspin> mase :http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:25] <mikki> does anyone know what wireless card its in hp pavilion dv6005ea?
[09:26] <mase> yes
[09:26] <mindspin> mase: there you can set up a sources.list which suites you
[09:26] <mase> thanks for your help
[09:27] <edward_> MenZa:rescan your colelctiojn
[09:27] <MenZa> edward_: I just did!
[09:27] <MenZa> But alright
[09:27] <edward_> MenZa: what format are the songs?
[09:27] <MenZa> edward_: mp3.
[09:27] <rioux602> how can i remove a group i'm part of from the console ?
[09:28] <edward_> MenZa: do you have mp3 playback enabled?
[09:28] <arepie> does anyone here, would like to help me with some c++ problems? i've created a simple search file/dir programs, and countered a bug, it's infinity loop, but i coudn't find what are the problems, could anyone?
[09:28] <MenZa> edward_: of course.
[09:29] <edward_> MenZa: hmm
[09:29] <MenZa> edward_: I just rescanned it though
[09:29] <MenZa> let's see
[09:29] <edward_> did that work?
[09:29] <MenZa> yup
[09:30] <milco> kdm_greet[7090] : Internal error: memory corruption detected :(
[09:30] <edward_> good
[09:30] <MenZa> well, the problem was
[09:30] <edward_> i thought the dynamic link was broken
[09:30] <rioux602> how can i remove a group i'm part of from the console ?
[09:30] <MenZa> that I just double clicked them in the tree rather than the playlist
[09:30] <milco> is there a way to test if my mem is broken (fast way?)
[09:30] <fritsch> milco: it does not have to be your memory, looks like gcc4 problem
[09:30] <milco> hmmmm
[09:30] <fritsch> milco: sudo apt-get install memtest
[09:30] <fritsch> milco: sorry: sudo apt-get install memtest86+
[09:31] <fritsch> milco: but should be installed default
[09:31] <MenZa> should be in the grub menu yeah
[09:31] <milco> fritsch: indeed it is :)
[09:31] <fritsch> milco: have a nic time testing *G*
[09:31] <milco> how can i start this baby.. do i need to start it before the linux kernel loads?
[09:31] <fritsch> milco: this will last about 10 hours ....
[09:31] <milco> fritsch: im not going to test for hours..
[09:31] <milco> just do a few quick rounds
[09:31] <fritsch> milco: yes, just select it in grub
[09:33] <edward_> !flash
[09:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:34] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[09:34] <milco> thanks fritsch, testing time..
[09:38] <rioux602> Someone can help me ?
[09:38] <fritsch> rioux602: depends
[09:38] <edward_> rioux602: whats the problem
[09:38] <Hawkwind> rioux602: Ask your question and we might
[09:38] <rioux602> I can't log in "admin mode" in the system param.
[09:39] <fritsch> rioux602: kde 3.5.4?
[09:39] <rioux602> the red square appears and disapear without asking my pass
[09:39] <rioux602> how can i know the version ?
[09:39] <fritsch> rioux602: here in konversation click on help -> about kde
[09:39] <rioux602> 3.5.2
[09:40] <edward_> !repos
[09:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:40] <fritsch> rioux602: mmmh, k - i know this problem
[09:40] <edward_> !source-o-matic
[09:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:40] <rioux602> how can i fix it ?
[09:40] <fritsch> rioux602: a tempory workarround is
[09:40] <fritsch> rioux602: this is definitively not!! a good idea though
[09:40] <fritsch> rioux602: open a terminal
[09:40] <rioux602> ok
[09:40] <fritsch> rioux602: xhost + 127.0.0.1
[09:40] <fritsch> rioux602: sudo su
[09:41] <fritsch> rioux602: systemsettings
[09:41] <fritsch> rioux602: now change your stuff and after tthis
[09:41] <fritsch> rioux602: xhost
[09:41] <fritsch> rioux602: logout
[09:41] <rioux602> heu
[09:41] <equinoxeB> hy there...
[09:41] <equinoxeB> I have a problem...
[09:42] <equinoxeB> i can't insta;; themes
[09:42] <equinoxeB> I have Kubuntu Dapper...
[09:42] <clams> hello
[09:42] <equinoxeB> KDE themes...
[09:42] <clams> How do I change my clock on Kubuntu's desktop to non-military?
[09:43] <heinkel_111> non-military?
[09:43] <clams> errr
[09:43] <clams> non-military time
[09:43] <LeeJunFan> non 24 hr format.
[09:43] <clams> as in, not a 24 hour clock
[09:43] <clams> but rather an AM/PM
[09:43] <edward_> 12 hour...
[09:43] <MenZa> roflmao
[09:44] <heinkel_111> 24 hour is not military lol
[09:44] <Clams> i know i know
[09:44] <heinkel_111> 24 hour is modern time :P
[09:44] <Clams> yeah it is, i'm just a bum :(
[09:44] <Clams> we're pretty disconnected from the world around here
[09:44] <LeeJunFan> Clams: right click it - date & time format, choose something other than default C for time.
[09:44] <heinkel_111> no, the entire english speaking world is rather oldfashioned :P
[09:45] <Clams> haha
[09:46] <lakaos> nas
[09:46] <dnm_> Hi people. Quick question that I haven't found an easy answer to: how do I get Kate to stop showing end-of-line/CRLF marks?
[09:46] <LeeJunFan> heinkel_111: I resent that remark, get yee sword and prepare to duel!
[09:46] <Clams> thanks for the help LeejunFan!
[09:46] <LeeJunFan> Clams: you get it?
[09:46] <abattoir> LeeJunFan: hi, can i pm you?
[09:46] <MenZa> lmao LeeJunFan
[09:46] <Clams> Yep, very simple. Can't believe it took me so long to figure out.
[09:47] <LeeJunFan> abattoir: why?
[09:47] <abattoir> LeeJunFan: err... i need to ask you something...
[09:47] <heinkel_111> prepare, LeeJunFan
[09:47] <abattoir> LeeJunFan: and maybe embarass myself :P
[09:47] <LeeJunFan> abattoir: heh, yeah, go ahead.
[09:48] <edward_> Clams: thats kinda how easy ubuntu is to use
[09:48] <Clams> :)
[09:48] <Clams> so far I like kubuntu more than ubuntu
[09:48] <Clams> although ubuntu held your hand for a lot of things, which I sort of need
[09:50] <draik> Question for everyone...
[09:50] <Hawkwind> Answer for you
[09:50] <Hawkwind> Hah
[09:50] <LeeJunFan> I like KDE more - I like options and features, Gnome takes more of a stance that less features == less confusion.
[09:50] <draik> Anyone seen/read the book that came out...
[09:51] <Hawkwind> draik: The official Ubuntu book ?
[09:51] <LeeJunFan> I'm waiting for the movie.
[09:51] <MenZa> lmao
[09:51] <draik> That one
[09:51] <Hawkwind> LOL LeeJunFan
[09:51] <draik> and the other one
[09:51] <Hawkwind> draik: I have it and have looked through it.  Haven't really 'read' it perse
[09:51] <jason__> !webcam
[09:51] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:51] <draik> Beginning Ubuntu Linux: From Novice to Professional
[09:51] <MenZa> anyway, me be off
[09:52] <jason__> sorry for not messaging it
[09:52] <LeeJunFan> Heard they got Samuel Jackson to star in it. Ubuntu on a mother!@#!@ computer or something like that.
[09:52] <MenZa> Goodnight everyone
[09:52] <LeeJunFan> gnight.
[09:52] <MenZa> rofl LeeJunFan
[09:52] <draik> LOL LeeJunFan
[09:52] <mariux_> hi, i keep telling konq that it should open .avi files in mplayer
[09:52] <mariux_> but it insists on kaffeine
[09:52] <mariux_> why?
[09:53] <LeeJunFan> Always glad to provide comic relief, but alas (there I go getting old-english again) I have to part and rid the world of another Windows machine. later...
[09:53] <jeekl> mariux_: Have you tried editing the file bindings in kcontrol? KDE Components -> File bindings
[09:53] <draik> Hawkwind, nothing on the other book?
[09:53] <angasule> does anyone know of a replacement for MS Project 2002?
[09:54] <dnm_> No one?
[09:54] <dnm_> Does anyone *use* Kate?
[09:54] <angasule> dnm_: what did you ask?
[09:54] <jeekl> dnm_: Sure, pretty much every day
[09:54] <draik> I use Kate
[09:54] <dnm_> How do I get Kate to stop showing end-of-line/CRLF marks?
[09:55] <Hawkwind> draik: I don't have the other book.  Just the one
[09:55] <draik> hmmm
[09:55] <phil_> nbbvn
[09:55] <draik> I am trying to figure out if its worth the purchase
[09:55] <mariux_> jeekl: yes
[09:55] <Clams> Hmm, I put 2 gigs worth of music onto a DVD (on a windows PC) and just copied those files into my /home/ directory on linux
[09:55] <Clams> theyre taking up space, but they are not playing right
[09:55] <draik> Hawkwind, from what you've seen, how is the Official Ubuntu book?
[09:55] <dnm_> Am I missing something obvious? Because I haven't found anything obvious.
[09:55] <Clams> both amarok and kaffeine are recognizing them
[09:55] <Clams> and idenityfing their albums/artists
[09:56] <Clams> but when i play them, it doesn't play, it just acts like each song is one second long
[09:56] <Hawkwind> draik: Very good.  It's got a lot of basic stuff in it, but it has some more advanced stuff too.  I got mine free though :)
[09:56] <draik> Clams, do you have the w32codecs?
[09:56] <angasule> hmm, CRLF is the *DOS* end of line, so usually you'll see a ^M when opening it as a unix file
[09:56] <draik> Hawkwind, Would you recommend it as a source of reference of just to learn from?
[09:56] <Clams> i don't think i do, can i get them through synaptic or anything?
[09:57] <dnm_> angasule: Sorry, I misspoke.
[09:57] <draik> Command 'gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic ' not found.
[09:57] <Hawkwind> draik: Both in a lot of ways.  Depends on the amount of experience the user reading it has
[09:57] <draik> I get that error when I run synaptic
[09:57] <dnm_> Here. I'll take a screenshot. It seems like other people haven't seen this, or something.
[09:58] <jeekl> draik: replace gksu with kdesu
[09:58] <draik> jeekl, how?
[09:58] <jeekl> draik: Are you starting it from the Kmenu?
[09:58] <jeekl> Then right click the nmenu entry and choose edit this entry
[09:59] <jeekl> In the "command" field, replace gksu with kdesu
[09:59] <draik> Hawkwind, I've been using Kubuntu 6.06 since the beginning (June 1, 2006). This is my 2nd install after I messed up something on my 1st try. Now I have it on 2 HDDs
[09:59] <angasule> dnm_: go to Settings->End of Line and choose Unix/windows/mac end of line type
[09:59] <draik> jeekl, both K Menu and Run Command (ALT+F2)
[09:59] <EdProgressive> !xgl
[09:59] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:00] <jeekl> draik: Try entering "kdesu synaptic" in run command. Thats what I always do
[10:00] <dnm_> angasule: That's in "Configure Kate", right?
[10:01] <angasule> dnm_: sorry, I meant Tools->End of line (in the menu)
[10:01] <dnm_> angasule: It'
[10:01] <dnm_> angasule: It's currently set to Unix, but setting it to the others doesn't change anything
[10:02] <dnm_> One sec
[10:02] <draik> If I try kdesu synaptic, I get     Command 'synaptic' not found.
[10:02] <rioux602> im back :p
[10:03] <fritsch> rioux602: working?
[10:03] <jeekl> draik: Do you know that you have synaptic installed? The binary file should be in the path. You could try entering "kdesu /usr/sbin/synaptic" in run command.
[10:03] <rioux602> yeah great but i have other thngs :p
[10:03] <dnm_> angasule: http://ofb.net/~dnm/snapshot1.png
[10:03] <fritsch> rioux602: lets see
[10:03] <draik> jeekl, says that the command is not found
[10:03] <mindspin> draik: maybe you mean kynaptic
[10:03] <draik> nope, it's synaptic
[10:03] <rioux602> how can i change my pass here ?
[10:04] <draik> I can see it in System
[10:04] <fritsch> rioux602: just open a terminal and type: passwd
[10:04] <rioux602> i mean.. on IRC
[10:04] <jeekl> draik: fire up a console.
[10:04] <draik> ok
[10:04] <jeekl> draik: run "whereis synaptic"
[10:04] <mindspin> synaptic comes with gnome, not kde btw are you sure you installed it?
[10:04] <alex_yo> how to install the old cursor in kdm. i have a big quadrat as a cursor. he is black how to change it?
[10:04] <fritsch> rioux602: hehe ask the NICKSERV
[10:04] <angasule> dnm_: the dots?
[10:04] <fritsch> rioux602:  /msg NickServ help
[10:04] <draik> synaptic: /usr/sbin/synaptic /usr/share/synaptic /usr/share/man/man8/synaptic.8.gz
[10:04] <EdProgressive> !paste
[10:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:05] <fritsch> rioux602: perhaps this works
[10:05] <dnm_> angasule: Yeah, at the end of each line.
[10:05] <rioux602> oki :P
[10:05] <mariux_> why doesnt speedstep work?
[10:05] <jeekl> draik: What happens if you type "sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic" in the console?
[10:06] <paolo_> dsfggdffdg
[10:06] <draik> This error:         /usr/sbin/synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:06] <EdProgressive> jeekl: you begin messing up your system
[10:07] <jeekl> EdProgressive: :-)
[10:08] <jeekl> draik: I don't know what that error means, unfortunately. Hopefully someone else does.
[10:08] <draik> Thanks for your help jeekl
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> draik: apt-cache policy libvte4 (is it installed)
[10:08] <EdProgressive> draik: run synaptic from the run command
[10:08] <EdProgressive> in your K menu
[10:09] <EdProgressive> as kdesu synaptic
[10:09] <fritsch> draik: sudo apt-get install libvte4
[10:09] <draik> Sorry...
[10:09] <draik> libvte4:
[10:09] <draik>   Installed: 1:0.13.5-0ubuntu2
[10:09] <draik>   Candidate: 1:0.13.5-0ubuntu2
[10:09] <draik>   Version table:
[10:09] <draik>  *** 1:0.13.5-0ubuntu2 0
[10:09] <draik>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[10:09] <draik>      1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 0
[10:09] <draik>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
[10:09] <draik>      1:0.12.1-0ubuntu1 0
[10:09] <draik>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[10:10] <DaSkreech> !Paste
[10:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:10] <draik> EdProgressive, it won't run
[10:10] <fritsch> Drado not paste
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> Where did you get 0.13.5-0ubuntu2 from ?
[10:10] <draik> possibly an update... dunno
[10:10] <EdProgressive> draik: kdesu synaptic?
[10:10] <EdProgressive> hmm
[10:10] <draik> If I try kdesu synaptic, I get     Command 'synaptic' not found.
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> !info libvte4 edgy
[10:11] <ubotu> Package libvte4 does not exist in edgy
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> !info libvte4
[10:11] <ubotu> libvte4: Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 661 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[10:11] <angasule> dnm_: go to configure kate, then Editor->Editing and uncheck 'Show tabulators'
[10:11] <abattoir> draik: do you have synaptic installed?
[10:11] <EdProgressive> draik: stop using the terminal then
[10:11] <draik> yes
[10:12] <abattoir> draik: sudo synaptic works?
[10:12] <EdProgressive> use it from the "run command" in the "K menu"
[10:12] <draik> EdProgressive, terminal, K Menu, Run command... they all fail
[10:12] <angasule> dnm_: that option displays a '.' where a tab is, and also where there are trailing spaces, if you uncheck it, dots go away
[10:12] <EdProgressive> draik: ah
[10:12] <draik> nope, won't work
[10:12] <abattoir> draik: you might need to use 'gksudo synaptic' as its a gtk app
[10:12] <dnm_> angasule: ah, thanks!
[10:12] <fritsch> !restrictedformats > rioux602
[10:12] <dnm_> angasule: I thought that only showed tab character whitespace
[10:13] <dnm_> angasule: Thanks again!
[10:13] <rioux602> !restrictedformats
[10:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:13] <angasule> dnm_: you're welcome :)
[10:13] <draik> abattoir, gksudo synaptic won't work either
[10:13] <abattoir> draik: won't work or doesn't work?
[10:13] <dnm_> Here's a second question, where should I look for better fixed-width fonts for Kate?
[10:13] <draik> doesn't work
[10:13] <Clams> i think adept is a lame package manager
[10:13] <Clams> and that synaptic rocks its world
[10:13] <Clams> thoughts?
[10:14] <EdProgressive> can someone here help with an XGL issue?
[10:14] <abattoir> Clams:  this is not the right place for that discussion... might want to take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <EdProgressive> i'm in the xgl channel...
[10:14] <abattoir> draik: does sudo/kdesu work otherwise?
[10:14] <draik> nope
[10:14] <draik> tried both
[10:14] <abattoir> draik: so its a problem w/ sudo ?
[10:15] <draik> seems that way
[10:15] <Clams> okay, sorry! :) no ill-will meant.
[10:15] <draik> or maybe synaptic itself
[10:15] <abattoir> draik: you get any errors?
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> draik: apt-get install libvte4=0.12.2-0ubuntu1
[10:15] <abattoir> wow, i didnt say he should leave... :P
[10:15] <draik> E: Version '0.12.2-0ubuntu1' for 'libvte4' was not found
[10:16] <milco> anyone installed xgl?
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> draik: apt-get install libvte4=1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (I can't remember the exact syntax)
[10:16] <draik> E: Broken packages
[10:16] <angasule> does anyone know of a replacement for MS Project?
[10:17] <h3sp4wn> draik: I don't know where you got the experimental version of libvte4 from but I expect that is the reason its not working
[10:17] <draik> how do I remove it and install a working version?
[10:18] <draik> apt-get remove libvte4    and then          apt-get install libvte4=1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1
[10:18] <draik> ?
[10:18] <h3sp4wn> draik: What will that do in terms of dependancies though)
[10:19] <draik> no clue
[10:19] <h3sp4wn> draik: try it I suppose ?
[10:19] <draik> apt-get remove synaptic            ?
[10:20] <draik> Can't install libvte4=1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1        broken package
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> You must of upgraded loads of stuff from somewhere else
[10:21] <draik> libvte4: Depends: libvte-common (= 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1) but 1:0.13.5-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> draik: remove libvte-common and install 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (same way as before)
[10:22] <mariux> why doesnt speedstep work on my pentium m?
[10:22] <draik> ok
[10:23] <draik> I did     apt-get remove libvte-common
[10:23] <draik> and then
[10:23] <draik> apt-get install libvte4=1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1
[10:24] <draik> doing the install reinstalled libvte-common
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> But did it install the right version #?
[10:24] <took> moin
[10:24] <draik> Setting up libvte-common (0.12.2-0ubuntu1) ...
[10:24] <draik> Setting up libvte4 (0.12.2-0ubuntu1) ...
[10:26] <andrea> salve
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> draik: So does synaptic run now ?
[10:28] <draik> nope
[10:29] <EdProgressive> wow ubuntu has over 900 people
[10:29] <draik> yup... but only with sudo
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> draik: use kdesu instead of sudi
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> draik: use kdesu instead of sudo
[10:30] <draik> won't work
[10:30] <draik> Doesn't work
[10:30] <fritsch> h3sp4wn: there seems to be a problem with kdesu
[10:30] <draik> ok... seriously... WTF???
[10:30] <draik> Now it works
[10:31] <fritsch> draik: really looks like a problem ;-)
[10:31] <draik> darn you all and your "magic touch"
[10:31] <draik> Thank you h2sp4wn, abattoir, much appreciated
[10:33] <daniloc> !directx
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about directx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <daniloc> anybody know for directx on linu ?
[10:33] <daniloc> anybody know for directx on linux ?
[10:34] <took> i need to compile something on my new kubuntu. But there is no "make"... what package do i have to install?
[10:34] <lupine_85> daniloc: under wine yes
[10:34] <DaSkreech> http://SeerOfSouls.com/screenshots/Hawkwind14.png
[10:34] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: damn you!
[10:35] <daniloc> lupine_85: ok ;)
[10:35] <EdProgressive> took: what are you trying to install
[10:35] <took> lldrv
[10:36] <newcomer> HOlas!
[10:36] <newcomer> a todos!
[10:36] <took> https://1stein.blinkenarea.org/lldrv/lldrv-1.1_2005-01-03.tar.bz2
[10:36] <newcomer> Tengo un problema
[10:36] <EdProgressive> never heard of it
[10:36] <newcomer> cuando quiero instalar por apt..
[10:36] <EdProgressive> were you sudo?
[10:36] <magical_trevsky> newcomer, #kubuntu-es
[10:36] <lupine_85> !br
[10:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:36] <newcomer> i am sorry!
[10:36] <EdProgressive> newcomer: use the spanish channel please
[10:36] <EdProgressive> !es
[10:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:36] <took> yes
[10:36] <EdProgressive> actually
[10:37] <lupine_85> took: build-essential will give you all the development tools. You'll also need the relavant lib*-dev packages
[10:37] <lupine_85> then follow whatever readme they provide to get it built
[10:38] <EdProgressive> Hawkwind: that looks awesome
[10:38] <EdProgressive> Enlighten? whati s that Xubuntu?
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> EdProgressive: e17
[10:39] <starhawk> hi
[10:39] <EdProgressive> h3sp4wn: err
[10:39] <EdProgressive> what does that mean
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> !e17
[10:40] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[10:40] <EdProgressive> ah, thanks a lot
[10:41] <starhawk> I am running mepis which uses dapper repositories and I am tring to load wine the latest version
[10:42] <starhawk> I down loaded the latest version but I dont know how to load it
[10:42] <starhawk> can any one help me
[10:42] <DaSkreech> beligum: PIng!
[10:43] <gnomefreak> starhawk: once installed running "wine file.exe"   file=whatever the name of the .exe file is
[10:43] <gnomefreak> without the "
[10:43] <starhawk> yes but how do I install it
[10:44] <jmichaelx> can anyone tell me if there is an ubuntu repo that contains libvisual-0.4-plugins ?
[10:45] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: imbrandon.com (his edgy or dapper repositories)
[10:45] <starhawk> wine-0.9.20 in pictures
[10:45] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: ty
[10:46] <wmk0207> uuuuuuh
[10:46] <wmk0207> linux es lo mejor...
when I downloaded the file it went into ark and this is the file from that
[10:47] <gnomefreak> starhawk: did you download it or open it with ark?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> starhawk: do you see the file on desktop or in /home/?
[10:47] <starhawk> it automatically went into ark
[10:47] <starhawk> it is in pictures
[10:48] <gnomefreak> starhawk: what kind of .exe are you downloading into pictures folder?
[10:48] <starhawk> wine-0.9.20 in pictures
[10:49] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: i wonder which of imbrandon's repos would contain that lib?
[10:49] <darnell> i'm having problems with my ipod and kubuntu.. can someone help? no instance of my ipod is even seen on my computer
[10:49] <gnomefreak> starhawk: what was wrong with apt-get install wine?
[10:49] <Adore> i need help please
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> jmichaelx: I would say probably the amarok one
[10:49] <jmichaelx> h3sp4wn: ok, thanks again
it wont go to the right repositories
[10:50] <Adore> i want to open this files Wmv.
[10:50] <Adore> How?
[10:50] <DaSkreech> !w23codecs > Adore
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w23codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <Adore> i do it
[10:50] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Yo
[10:50] <darnell> i'm having problems with my ipod and kubuntu.. can someone help? no instance of my ipod is even seen on my computer
[10:50] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs > Adore
[10:50] <gnomefreak> starhawk: dappers repos has wine in them.
[10:50] <Adore> and nothing open
[10:50] <starhawk> the ubunta repositorie dosent have the latest version
[10:50] <Adore> believe me i do it
[10:51] <Adore> but it's not working
[10:51] <gnomefreak> starhawk: is wine in a tar form?
[10:51] <Adore> the wmv. files
[10:51] <starhawk> not now
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Adore: Where did You get the WMV?
[10:51] <Adore> not working with vedio
[10:51] <Adore> from sites
[10:51] <gnomefreak> starhawk: what is the full name of file?
[10:51] <Adore> it's some dancer show
[10:51] <starhawk> wine-0.9.20
[10:51] <Adore> it was playing on windows
[10:51] <newcomer> cedega rlz!
[10:51] <gnomefreak> starhawk: starhawk FULL NAME
[10:52] <gnomefreak> wine-0.9.20. what?
[10:52] <starhawk> that all that I have left after ark is done with it
[10:52] <larson9999> the wine repo i have is deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[10:52] <starhawk> I will look it up again
[10:52] <Adore> i need help please
[10:53] <gnomefreak> starhawk: if it is an .exe get rid of it
[10:53] <Adore> how can i open these files Wmv.
[10:53] <ironfroggy> anyone have an idea why i can ssh into my box from my network, but not from outside the network? i have my router forwarding the port.
[10:53] <larson9999> it gets updated quickly
[10:53] <gnomefreak> Adore: read the pm ubotu sent you
[10:53] <draik> Adore, get the w32codecs
[10:53] <starhawk> ok
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Adore: Which site?
[10:53] <Adore> i will reinstall it
[10:53] <gnomefreak> !wine > starhawk
[10:53] <Adore> don't worry
[10:53] <Adore> WMV video
[10:53] <gnomefreak> starhawk: read the pm you jsut got for site adn instructions
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Adore: Which site? Maybe it will gove some hints
[10:53] <starhawk> it is gone
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Adore: read the pm
[10:54] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: sup!????
[10:54] <Adore> video/x-ms-wmv
[10:54] <ironfroggy> on the local network, i am authenticated by my key. connecting from outside (by domain) i get a password prompt but it wont even accept my own password.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Adore: wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[10:54] <Adore> code : WMA Version 8
[10:55] <gnomefreak> when that is done do   sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Adore: i gave you commands word for word run tham as i typed them and you will have them
[10:55] <Adore> ok
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Adore: that command is on the site in your pm too
[10:56] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Nothing much :) How's KDE-darwin?
[10:56] <starhawk> I have read it and it wantsto use synaptic which is fine but when I try to add it it wont stay in synaptic
[10:56] <DaSkreech> What are they doing there?
[10:56] <Adore> ok
[10:56] <west-en> i need help with one thing!
[10:56] <gnomefreak> starhawk: define stay in synaptic
[10:56] <gnomefreak> daniloc: ask in the channel
[10:57] <west-en> i am using "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda2 /media/hda2" to load my ntfspartition in Linux
[10:57] <west-en> but how do i fix so this is done when i start my system?
[10:57] <west-en> in fstab? how?
[10:57] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: nice :)
[10:57] <edward_> !fstab
[10:57] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[10:57] <Adore> Thank you
[10:57] <DaSkreech> Adore: Works now?
[10:57] <starhawk> when you add a repositorie it is listed after your done but for some reason the address that wine gives out wont list
[10:57] <edward_> just malesire tp set your options to ro,umask=0222
[10:58] <Adore> i download it
[10:58] <starhawk> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[10:58] <Adore> and when it finish
[10:58] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: but I am going to update my blog right now ( going update the media center thing and update the sources.list I puted on the site
[10:58] <Adore> i will type it in commander line
[10:58] <Adore> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[10:58] <DaSkreech> :-D
[10:58] <Adore> Right?
[10:58] <DaSkreech> Yes
[10:58] <Adore> Thanks for your help
[10:58] <Adore> Thank you very much
[10:58] <gnomefreak> daniloc: dont do it
[10:58] <DaSkreech> Adore: Thank us after it works
[10:58] <Adore> ok
[10:59] <starhawk> gnomefreak>did you get that
[10:59] <gnomefreak> darich: why did you pm me?
[11:00] <draik> Hello intelikey
[11:00] <intelikey> say.   never set up a joy stick before,  thought i'd give it a whack.
[11:01] <darnell> HELP WITH IPOD PLEASE
[11:01] <draik> LOL
[11:01] <intelikey> anything special i need to know.
[11:01] <draik> @ intelikey
[11:01] <intelikey> ?
[11:01] <draik> Don't whack the joystick... might break
[11:01] <intelikey> small whack.
[11:01] <intelikey> :)
[11:01] <edward_> darnell: careful with caps
[11:01] <edward_> what do you want to do?
[11:02] <gordontesos> bonsoir
[11:02] <starhawk> gnomefreak>are you still there
[11:02] <gnomefreak> kind of
[11:02] <darnell> thanx for giving me some kind of attention
[11:02] <edward_> sure, now what do you need to do?
[11:02] <darnell> kubuntu isnt detecting any instance of my ipd
[11:02] <darnell> gnome use to do it auto
[11:02] <darnell> i plug it in and it just sits there
[11:02] <edward_> do you see it on the desktop at all?
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I have a usb one (that takes a super nintendo controller) that works with no configuration at all
[11:02] <darnell> nope
[11:03] <edward_> check /media is there anything in there?
[11:03] <intelikey> h3sp4wn this one plugs into the 15D port
[11:03] <intelikey> err i think 15
[11:03] <darnell> cdrom  cdrom0  cdrom1  floppy  floppy0  usb  usb0
[11:03] <starhawk> how can I down load the file so it wont go into ark
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: used to be referred to as gameport ?
[11:04] <intelikey> yeah
[11:04] <edward_> okay, hmm
[11:04] <edward_> how long has it been plugged in?
[11:05] <darnell> lol, i just unplugged it an plugged it back in..
[11:05] <darnell> last night..
[11:05] <darnell> i was detecting..
[11:05] <darnell> and some box came up and i told it to do nothing
[11:05] <edward_> darnell: sometimes taht happened with my brother's ipod
[11:05] <darnell> and it hasnt every since
[11:05] <edward_> but it would work ig i unplugged it and plugged it back in
[11:06] <DaSkreech> darnell: Eh?
[11:06] <intelikey> h3sp4wn any idea where i should look for info?    (if he says google, i sware i'll put him on ignore)
[11:06] <darnell> i've been recycling since last night
[11:06] <darnell> its not going to change..
[11:06] <beligum> DaSkreech
[11:06] <darnell> daskreech?
[11:06] <beligum> what's up?
[11:06] <edward_> darnell: i have very limited ipod experience
[11:07] <DaSkreech> beligum: Peek in #kubuntu-devel we were talking about you
[11:07] <edward_> i used GTKpod and Amarok
[11:07] <edward_> so i can't really be of much help past that
[11:07] <DaSkreech> darnell: What are you trying to do?
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: /usr/share/doc - xserver-xorg-input-joystick or joystick (joystick might be easiest - aptitude show joystick
[11:07] <darnell> i'm trying to get kubuntu to recognize the existance of my ipod
[11:08] <darnell> i plug it in and it sits there
[11:08] <darnell> doing nothing
[11:08] <darnell> last night there was sda in my /media
[11:08] <darnell> but it doesnt show up anymore
[11:08] <darnell> i've rebooted  and still nothing..
[11:08] <darnell> but...
[11:08] <darnell> if i log into gnome its there
[11:08] <darnell> this only started when i went to kubuntu
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> darnell: is sda in /dev ?
[11:09] <lupine_85> darnell: mount it yourself?
[11:09] <intelikey> h3sp4wn ty looking.
[11:09] <lupine_85> kde isn't as good as gnome when it comes to automounting
[11:09] <darnell> tried that.. I cant mount it if the computer doesnt see it
[11:09] <lupine_85>  /dev/sda1 ?
[11:09] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: ??
[11:10] <darnell> i see sdb and sdb1
[11:10] <lupine_85> that's it then
[11:10] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Jjust got into a screenshot comparion of pretty OSes and ended up using yours
[11:10] <DaSkreech> :-(
[11:10] <lupine_85> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 -t vfat /mnt (or wherever)
[11:10] <Hawkwind> Hah
[11:10] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: And of course mine won I'm sure :P
[11:11] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Well it was *nix vs * so *Nix won
[11:12] <pimuri> hi folks
[11:13] <pimuri> is there anybody who has time & nerves to help me with a ndiswrapper problem? :O)
[11:14] <darnell> ok that worked but...
[11:14] <darnell> i dont want to have to do this everytime..
[11:14] <darnell> will it change?
[11:14] <darnell> sdb1 to sda or something?
[11:14] <edward_> darnell: no idea.
[11:14] <edward_> oh no
[11:15] <edward_> that won't change
[11:15] <draik> !cedega
[11:15] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:15] <edward_> you can configre Amarok to look for it at the location all the time
[11:15] <Adore> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:15] <Adore>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:15] <Adore> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:15] <Adore>  w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[11:15] <pimuri> !wpa_supplicant
[11:15] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB
[11:15] <darnell> how so?
[11:15] <Adore> that after i reinstall
[11:15] <Adore> and after typed the commander
[11:16] <edward_> Adore: try sudo dpkg - i package.deb
[11:16] <Adore> ok
[11:16] <edward_> Adore:  actually try sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:16] <Adore> ype dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[11:16] <Adore> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[11:16] <Adore> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[11:16] <Adore> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[11:16] <Adore> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[11:16] <Adore> Type dpkg --licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[11:16] <Adore> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[11:17] <Adore> dpkg: error processing package.deb (--install):
[11:17] <Adore>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:17] <Adore> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:17] <Adore>  package.deb
[11:17] <osh_> !pastebin
[11:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:17] <DaSkreech> Adore: What's the name of the .deb?
[11:17] <edward_> no no, substitute the whole w32codec for the "package" part"
[11:18] <ge_ubuntu> I have a problem with Language/Regional settings
[11:18] <Adore> w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[11:18] <osh_> Is there some way to make the wireless nic automatically connect during bootup. Currently I have to start the wlan-assistant every time I login. Not a big problem but slightly annoying.
[11:18] <edward_> Adore: where is the .deb/
[11:18] <lupine_85> osh_: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <Adore> i don't know really
[11:18] <edward_> osh_: ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:18] <edward_> Adore: is it on your desktop?
[11:19] <Adore> no ti's not
[11:19] <edward_> what folder is it in?
[11:19] <DaSkreech> Can you see it in Konqueror?
[11:19] <ge_ubuntu> As I know there should be a support for Georgian language
[11:19] <ge_ubuntu> but i cant switch to Georgian
[11:19] <Adore> Now
[11:19] <ge_ubuntu> System Settings ->Regional and Language Settings
[11:19] <TheHighChild> Does anyone know how to set it up so my screensaver starts when I put the cursor into a hotspot?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:20] <Adore> i cave this file on my desktop
[11:20] <TheHighChild> Is there a config I can edit?
[11:20] <Adore> w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[11:20] <osh_> lupine_85: No gui to make it happen? The wlan-assistant already have all info so I really shouldn't need to edit that file, although I agree that it would solve the problem.
[11:20] <intelikey> ok h3sp4wn would you care to give me a look at the input device section of your xorg.conf that describs the js ?   i have no clue what it should look like but a working example should help???
[11:20] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: what version of konq do you have?
[11:20] <edward_> Adore: type cd /home/user/Desktop
[11:20] <Adore> ok
[11:20] <edward_> repalace that with your user namd
[11:20] <intelikey> h3sp4wn you can just msg me if you like.
[11:20] <gnomefreak> edward_: cd Desktop will work
[11:20] <DaSkreech> edward_: Please use ~ instead of /home/user :0
[11:20] <Adore> bash: cd: /home/user/Desktop: No such file or directory
[11:20] <edward_> gnomefreak: yes i always forger that
[11:21] <DaSkreech> Adore: try cd ~/Desktop
[11:21] <Adore> ok
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Adore: type cd Desktop
[11:21] <edward_> DaSkreech: most people get confused on that
[11:21] <Adore> ok
[11:21] <edward_> i know i was confused
[11:21] <gnomefreak> make sure the D is a cap D
[11:21] <pimuri> I'm trying to get my USR 5416 WLAN card to get running under kubuntu. On some page I saw that you can use the netgear w311v2 INF file to install it .. I did it .. it seems to work  (at least when checking with ndiswrapper -l)
[11:21] <gnomefreak> who has kde 3.4.2?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> and 3.4.3
[11:22] <edward_> gnomefreak: not I
[11:22] <edward_> gnomefreak: this is really Admiral_Chicago
[11:22] <gnomefreak> me neither but im working on a bug
[11:22] <ge_ubuntu> no answer on my question?
[11:22] <pimuri> and I want to use wpa-psk ... so I made a key with wpa_passphrase ... ssid , etc and made a config file
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> intelikey:I don't have that when I plug it in its all handled by udev
[11:22] <Adore> what then
[11:22] <pimuri> now I try to start the daemon with sudo wpa_supplicant start -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant2.conf    .. it get's me an error  "ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT] : Operation not supported"   does anybody know what this could mean?
[11:23] <Adore> ??
[11:23] <Adore> Then what?
[11:23] <intelikey> h3sp4wn nothing in xorg.conf ?
[11:23] <edward_> then type sudo dpkg -i W32codec.deb
[11:23] <lupine_85> osh_: there's probably one somewhere, but by the time you've found it and worked out how to use it, you might as well have edited the file directly
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Let me just check for certain but I have not manually added anything
[11:23] <edward_> or whatever its called
[11:23] <darnell> is this correct to add to fstab                 /dev/sda1       /mnt/ipod       vfat rw,user,noauto,noatime,errors=remount 0 0
[11:23] <darnell>     so that i dont have to manually mount all the time?
[11:23] <Adore> i do it
[11:23] <intelikey> ok.   maybe i still missing something.
[11:23] <Adore> but notinh done
[11:24] <Adore> eror
[11:24] <edward_> what is teh last line?
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Adore: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[11:24] <darnell> not sure.. something i saw online
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Adore: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[11:24] <Adore> ok
[11:25] <DaSkreech> I swear it's 100 times easier to tell them to right click and install package but you guys love the dpkg -i
[11:25] <Adore> reasing date .....
[11:25] <Adore> reading*
[11:25] <Adore> Very good
[11:25] <DaSkreech> darnell: do you have a /mnt/ipod?
[11:25] <Adore> i will go to try now the file
[11:25] <lupine_85> dpkg -i is desktop-independent :)
[11:26] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: You can do that in ubuntu as well
[11:26] <osh_> lupine_85: So, a feature-request on launchpad.net on wlan-assistant then... ;-) It should really be there already. Shouldn't it?
[11:26] <DaSkreech> Sort of :)
[11:26] <Adore> oh , nothing done
[11:27] <gnomefreak> dpkg is debian any debian release or based release
[11:27] <lupine_85> osh_: probably
[11:27] <Adore> the vedio not playing
[11:27] <Adore> just the sound
[11:27] <lupine_85> desktop = gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox...
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Adore: did you restart your browser what video player are you using?
[11:27] <Adore> no
[11:27] <Adore> i will do
[11:27] <Adore> now
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Adore: is it opening in kaffine?
[11:29] <Adore> i open media player
[11:29] <Adore> and but the file in it
[11:29] <Adore> but
[11:29] <Adore> just the sound working
[11:29] <Adore> the vedio not working
[11:29] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: We are in A Kubuntu Support Chan the only likely people we are to get in here are Ubuntu support seekers
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Adore: what media player?
[11:30] <Adore> tha last
[11:30] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: I try to avoid assumptions - even reasonable ones
[11:30] <Adore> 9
[11:30] <Adore> Movie Player using GStreamer 0.10.6
[11:30] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: Yeah but if yo uwere helping someone to install something then suddenly realised that he had just emerged kmplayer what would your reaction be?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Adore: what is the name of the player you used to open the file with
[11:31] <starhawk> why cant I add wine repositories
[11:31] <gnomefreak> starhawk: try in #mepis since your using it
[11:31] <Adore> Movie player
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Adore: do you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:31] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: I don't see the relevence of the query
[11:31] <Adore> ubuntu
[11:31] <starhawk> thank you I will
[11:31] <tyler_d> I am looking for a descent codec pack for avi... .the one I have currently stutters, and the audio is all off???
[11:31] <lupine_85> I said "desktop", not "distro"
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Adore: restart totem (movie player)
[11:32] <Adore> How?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Adore: close it and than open it again?
[11:32] <Adore> i do it
[11:32] <Adore> believe me
[11:32] <Adore> i will restart my pc
[11:32] <Adore> is that good?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> i brb going for smoke
[11:32] <gnomefreak> not gonna help
[11:32] <Adore> aha
[11:33] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: Well are all desktops equipped by default to deal with particular packages?
[11:33] <KomiaPoika> anyone knows how to enter bios of toshiba tecra laptpo?
[11:34] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: Ok since this is obviously going offtopic how come kubuntu ships with ark as the default manager for .deb?
[11:34] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: I don't know
[11:34] <lupine_85> hence why I recommend dpkg -i
[11:34] <Adore> hey
[11:34] <Adore> there is no sound too
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> ark supports ar archives does it not ?
[11:34] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: :)
[11:34] <DaSkreech> ar?
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> thats all a deb is - doesn't seem too unreasonable
[11:35] <lupine_85> h3sp4wn: as long as you have binutils installed, I guess
[11:35] <verbose> i've made a real mess of kde...how can i completely remove it and all config files and reinstall it?
[11:35] <Adore> ys
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Yeah but the vast majority of people who downloada deb andclick on it would expect it to do what?
[11:35] <Adore> yes
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> verbose: sudo aptitude purge kde~i
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> verbose: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:35] <Adore> ooops
[11:35] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Openoffice documents are .zips So should we have them open in ,ark as well?
[11:35] <Adore> i lost
[11:35] <verbose> h3sp4wn: thanks
[11:35] <sorush20> hi guys what does fifo mean?
[11:36] <lupine_85> first in first out
[11:36] <DaSkreech> First in First out
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Wouldn't affect me in the slightest
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Doh!
[11:36] <sorush20> fifo buffer isn't getting full and its sttuck at about 1- 2 percent and there is not info on device buffer..
[11:36] <sorush20> I don't know how to fix this
[11:39] <intelikey> sorush20 fifo=file in file out  ?
[11:40] <flake> i have a question, i just downloaded the bluefish editor - trying to edit and save a test webpage to view in the usual /var/www/... folder, but it wont let me save due to security i imagine
[11:40] <flake> do i need to set permissions on the folder
[11:40] <flake> or somehow run bluefish in root
[11:41] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: as of dapper you can click a .deb and it will install it and any depends it finds
[11:41] <angasule> does anyone know of a replacement for MS Project?
[11:41] <flake> and like when i code with c++ and create folders/apps,  i need to create maybe a base folder with the adequate permissions?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> flake: you use apt to install bluefish?
[11:42] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: I just clicked One and it opened in ark
[11:42] <flake> i had to download it manually, the universe repositories aren't enabled on my install for some reason
[11:42] <gnomefreak> gdebi = gnome and it does what i said im sure there should ne a kdebi iirc
[11:43] <gnomefreak> flake: enable them and install it. but was it a deb you downloaded?
[11:43] <flake> yes
[11:43] <lupine_85> flake: save it elsewhere and copy it over with sudo
[11:43] <flake> i used gdebi to extract/install
[11:43] <lupine_85> then change th owner and group to www-data
[11:43] <larsbjar> I am trying to share a folder with some windows computers on my LAN. But what about the samba password. Do I have to create a samba account with password? Why cant I share so that anyone can access my shared folder directly? Aaaah....
[11:43] <verbose> h3sp4wn: that didn't do it...kde is still just as messed up as it was before
[11:44] <flake> good idea lupine, for when it's exposed to the real world
[11:44] <verbose> i have no menu or anything other than 2 buttons that i put on the taskbar when it was working
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> verbose: try mv .kde .kdeold (restart kde - reintegrate any changes you made)
[11:44] <verbose> h3sp4wn: k, will do
[11:45] <gnomefreak> its not called kdebi but im almost positive i saw a kde version of it
[11:46] <verbose> h3sp4wn: thank you thank you...i didn't even think that it could be my settings, i just thought stuff was missing
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> verbose: If kubuntu-desktop is installed chances are nothing is missing (unless you are using unofficial repositories0
[11:48] <verbose> h3sp4wn: good to know
[11:49] <coreymon77> problem
[11:49] <coreymon77> my sound isnt working
[11:50] <coreymon77> ii cant get it to work
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> coreymon77: Since when ?
[11:50] <coreymon77> just noticed
[11:50] <coreymon77> but i think for a while
[11:50] <tk_> hi
[11:50] <verbose> anyone know how to detach a screen session running within another screen session?
[11:51] <jmichaelx> would it be possible to add the xfce weather panel applet to the KDE panel? the xfce4 applet is so much better than kweather....
[11:52] <gnomefreak> jmichaelx: im assuming not without alot of crap/hacking/so on
[11:53] <jmichaelx> gnomefreak: ok i was just curious
[11:53] <coreymon77> i cant get it to work
[11:53] <jmichaelx> i have xfce installed on this box, but have not tried to add that applet
[11:54] <Chuck> Hey guys, does anybody know how to rip dvds?
[11:55] <Chuck> I used acidrip, but wont work at all.
[11:55] <DaSkreech> k3b :-)
[11:55] <Chuck> Is it possible to encode them?
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Never tired though I should
[11:57] <coreymon77> can someone help me get my sound working?
[11:58] <Chuck> whats wrong?
[12:00] <sorush20> my dvd play back is a bit fuzzy how can I increase the quality please?
[12:00] <sorush20> I'm using a real dvd and xine engine with kaffine
[12:01] <micmac> sorush20, what video out driver are you using?
[12:02] <micmac> Is the source interlaced? Try hitting 'i' during playback in case it is.
[12:03] <sorush20> I put it on auto
[12:03] <AtKaaZ> does anyone know what causes console blanking in console text only mode? (not in X)
[12:04] <micmac> AtKaaZ, you want it to blank?
[12:04] <coreymon77> chuck: i dont really know what is wrong my sound just isnt working
[12:04] <sorush20> micmac: should I do interlace
[12:04] <AtKaaZ> micmac: i want it to stop blanking :)
[12:04] <micmac> sorush20, if it's interlaced you need to deinterlace
[12:05] <micmac> AtKaaZ, try 'setterm -powersave off'
[12:05] <AtKaaZ> micmac: all right! thanks so much
[12:05] <micmac> np, hope it works
[12:05] <AtKaaZ> me too
[12:05] <sorush20> it seems like I can see the frames and its not fast enough..
[12:06] <micmac> sorush20, is it better when you set the video out driver to 'xv' instead of 'auto'
[12:06] <micmac> ?
[12:06] <sorush20> it is still fuzzy and I can see the edges of the pics and fuzzy..
[12:06] <rioux602> Hello
[12:07] <micmac> sorush20, try another player. mplayer for instance.
[12:07] <sorush20> micmac: don't know how to describe it.
[12:07] <clams> for nvidia cards, you need a driver for kubuntu, correct?
[12:07] <micmac> sorush20, I thought so :)
[12:08] <DaSkreech> Where can I find the Rich text option in kopete?
[12:09] <rioux602> can someone help me with samba ?
[12:10] <rioux602> i don't know how to configure it..
[12:10] <rioux602> I already tried some tutos.
[12:10] <micmac> rioux602, take a look at the sample smb.conf
[12:10] <coreymon77> clams:yes
[12:10] <rioux602> yes but I can't edit it
[12:10] <micmac> rioux602, you need to sudo
[12:10] <rioux602> i did
[12:11] <rioux602> sudo -e smb.conf ?
[12:11] <echo1> anyone know the link for the forum post "$80 router to $800 router" (its baout hacked router firmware, for MORE than jsut the linksys wrtg54)
[12:11] <echo1> i searched but cant seem to find it