| ajmitch | since elmo doesn't appear to really be active | 12:09 |
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| === Hobbsee thougth they had quorum with 2 | ||
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | probably | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | that should now be active quroum, yay | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | great, they're here | 12:09 |
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| LaserJock | is the CC, umm happening? | 12:12 |
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| trappist | sorta | 12:13 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: sure, once everyone gets settled in | 12:13 |
| trappist | I think we're waiting on the rest of the cc | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | ok, cool | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | I thought I was late | 12:13 |
| ajmitch | trappist: enough of the CC is there | 12:13 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: nah, mako was just busy, elmo was trying to track him down | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | once they get off the phone, anyawy | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | I might be afk here and there | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | ok, this might be a silly question | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | can you run kernel modules for a different kernel in a chroot? | 12:27 |
| trappist | no | 12:27 |
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| trappist | the chroot uses your running kernel, it's not a virualized environment | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | if I were to run Xen could I use a different kernel? | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | the thing is, I really want to run Ubuntu on a particular machine, but I have one thing that needs a 2.4 kernel | 12:28 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: you'd still have to run a special domU kernel for the xen guest | 12:29 |
| ajmitch | which for us is the same as the dom0 | 12:29 |
| bddebian | Later folks | 12:29 |
| bddebian | Someone please push welshbyte and trappist for me at the meeting :-) | 12:30 |
| bddebian | Sorry for bailing welshbyte | 12:30 |
| welshbyte | heh :) | 12:30 |
| === ajmitch can't push | ||
| ajmitch | I don't know enough of what they've done :) | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: bughunter | 12:31 |
| trappist | ajmitch: would pulling for me be more appropriate? :) | 12:31 |
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| cbx33 | what does W: changelog-should-mention-nmu actually mean | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | and W: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 0.4 | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | cbx33: you can ignore it. in debian, people are only allowed to upload things if they're the maintainer, on the uploaders list for that package | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | or they can NMU, which means non-maintainer upload | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | thanks Hobbsee | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | one more Hobbsee | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | debian-rules-missing-required-target binary-arch | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | cbx33: what version number is the package? | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | usually they'll version with .1, hence the incorrect version number | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | 0.4 | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | it was 0.3 | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | er, pass? | 12:45 |
| Hobbsee | should be 0.4-0ubuntu1 anyway | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | but I just implemented a major spec | 12:45 |
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| cbx33 | oh.....ok..... | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | the original pacakge in ubuntu was 0.3 | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | oh. weird | 12:46 |
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| Hobbsee | a native package or something? | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | (it usually ends in ubuntu1) | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | :S | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | I'm not sure | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | it was written for edubuntu | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | student-control-panel in universe | 12:46 |
| Hobbsee | if the last package version was 0.3, feel free to make this one 0.4 | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | ok | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | what about the debian-rules-missing-required-target binary-arch | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | it's obviously something in debian/rules | 12:47 |
| cbx33 | ok | 12:47 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | unless you took the binary arch target out | 12:47 |
| redguy | got one packaging question myself | 12:47 |
| Hobbsee | redguy: shoot | 12:48 |
| redguy | what if upstream tarball contains files with mtime 1 jan 1970 | 12:48 |
| redguy | ? | 12:48 |
| cbx33 | Hobbsee, there was never a binary-arch in there | 12:48 |
| redguy | tar complains about it when running dh_make | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | cbx33: odd | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | cbx33: are you using build-deps-indep or something weird? | 12:49 |
| === Hobbsee is guessing. | ||
| LaserJock | ah | 12:49 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, any ideas? | 12:49 |
| LaserJock | do you have a binary-arch rule in debian/rules? | 12:49 |
| cbx33 | hmm....lemme check | 12:50 |
| cbx33 | nope | 12:50 |
| cbx33 | binary-indep: build install | 12:50 |
| cbx33 | binary: binary-indep | 12:50 |
| cbx33 | that's it | 12:50 |
| cbx33 | should I add | 12:50 |
| LaserJock | just a sec | 12:50 |
| cbx33 | binary-arch: binary-indep ? | 12:50 |
| redguy | i did touch <the offending files>, and rebuilt the tarball myself. Is this what I should have done? | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: no, just put an empty binary-arch: | 12:51 |
| cbx33 | ok | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | and yes, it is required according to Debian Policy | 12:51 |
| cbx33 | ok | 12:52 |
| cbx33 | what is the current deb-helper version? | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | !info debhelper edgy | 12:52 |
| ubotu | debhelper: helper programs for debian/rules. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.37.3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 499 kB, installed size 1264 kB | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | cbx33: 5.0.37 | 12:52 |
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| cbx33 | Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0) | 12:52 |
| cbx33 | should I put 5.0.37 ? | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. or just >=5 | 12:52 |
| cbx33 | just building my .deb :D | 12:54 |
| crimsun | lovely, my current meeting is ongoing | 12:58 |
| Fujitsu_ | Ah, hi crimsun. | 12:59 |
| Fujitsu_ | I was hoping you'd appear :) | 12:59 |
| crimsun | sorry, real life meeting was kicking my butt; it's better now | 01:00 |
| Fujitsu_ | OK... I was delayed getting here by the rain causing trains to be a bit unuseful. | 01:02 |
| welshbyte | meep | 01:06 |
| crimsun | 'grats trappist | 01:06 |
| trappist | thanks crimsun :) | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu_ | Yeah, congratulations trappist. | 01:06 |
| gnomefreak | good luck Fujitsu_ and congrats trappist | 01:08 |
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| Fujitsu_ | Thanks gnomefreak. | 01:08 |
| Fujitsu_ | Thanks crimsun :) | 01:09 |
| Plug | How often are CC meetings? | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | every 2 weeks I think | 01:09 |
| Fujitsu_ | Generally, although it went 5 weeks without one. | 01:10 |
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| crimsun | sorry, need to return to the meeting. I've already posted "pro" 5 minutes ago in -meeting, so if necessary just repaste | 01:13 |
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| Riddell | gnome types: what's gct? | 01:24 |
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| LaserJock | way to go Fujitsu | 01:31 |
| gnomefreak | Fujitsu_: congrats sorry i missed it dinner was waiting | 01:32 |
| Fujitsu_ | No problem, gnomefreak :) | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu_ | Thanks both of you :) | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | has anybody done a Knot2 install? | 01:36 |
| === welshbyte nods | ||
| LaserJock | welshbyte: did you use the desktop cd? | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | and what flavor | 01:37 |
| welshbyte | nope, alternate, and amd64 | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu? | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | doesnt gksu use the su password and gksudo use the user password? | 01:37 |
| welshbyte | yeah | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | I'm trying alternate i386 Kubuntu and it keeps dying on me | 01:38 |
| gnomefreak | LaserJock: alternate i386 worked for me | 01:38 |
| welshbyte | LaserJock: "dying"? | 01:38 |
| welshbyte | gnomefreak: from the man page "gksu is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo" | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | welshbyte: "Processing was halted becauase there were too many erors" | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | pkgsel | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | so at the end of installing everything | 01:40 |
| gnomefreak | ty thats what i though | 01:40 |
| gnomefreak | t | 01:40 |
| welshbyte | strange.. does it give any more info on another tty? | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | well, that is the tty | 01:40 |
| welshbyte | sometimes errors/messages get dumped to a different one | 01:41 |
| tseng | hey | 01:41 |
| welshbyte | hey tseng | 01:41 |
| tseng | anyone have ideas about a new dapper 6.06.1 install rearranging interfaces | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | in the installer it says it failed on step "Select and install software" | 01:41 |
| tseng | network interfaces | 01:41 |
| tseng | old eth0 is now eth1 | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | I don't think I ever had that | 01:42 |
| tseng | *one* port from a four port pci card moved ahread of the two onboard nics | 01:42 |
| LaserJock | but I lost all network on edgy | 01:42 |
| === tseng googles | ||
| LaserJock | I'm really frustrated these days | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | I can't seem to get Ubuntu boxen up and going | 01:43 |
| tseng | oh nice | 01:44 |
| tseng | /etc/iftab | 01:44 |
| tseng | rename by mac | 01:44 |
| tseng | who knows why the order sucks | 01:45 |
| tseng | i wonder if i remove this | 01:45 |
| tseng | it will go back to whatever linux wants | 01:45 |
| === tseng tries, back to the data center | ||
| LaserJock | hmm, maybe I got a bad burn, I ran the checker thing and it failed | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | but the md5sum of the .iso is good | 01:47 |
| geser | i'm currently looking at the unmet deps of libao-polyp | 01:48 |
| redguy | any hints on dealing with an upstream tarball containing some files which have their mtime set to 1 Jan 1970? | 01:48 |
| welshbyte | i think the checks are failing as a bug... my knot2 install disc failed so i burned it again, same thing, but the MD5sum matched so i just installed and it's going fine | 01:48 |
| geser | one of its build-depends isn't available anymore | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | welshbyte: stink | 01:48 |
| geser | what to do with it? request a remove? | 01:49 |
| welshbyte | LaserJock: yup :/ | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | and installing on this stupid machine takes forever | 01:49 |
| welshbyte | geser: what's it build-depending on? | 01:52 |
| geser | libpolyp-dev | 01:53 |
| geser | part of polypaudio which was removed on 2005-12-21 from dapper | 01:53 |
| welshbyte | geser: didn't it change its name to pulse audio? | 01:54 |
| geser | I don't know | 01:55 |
| geser | there seems to be no package for pulse audio | 01:56 |
| welshbyte | hm maybe that's irrelevant anyway.. | 01:56 |
| welshbyte | sorry my brain isn't working, been awake for far too long | 01:56 |
| geser | currently libao-polyp is uninstallable and unbuildable in edgy | 01:57 |
| tseng | LaserJock: the secret is /etc/iftab btw | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | to what? | 02:03 |
| tseng | LaserJock: if you remove it linux does whatever it feels like | 02:03 |
| tseng | as far as naming interfaces | 02:03 |
| tseng | s/remove/comment | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | I see | 02:03 |
| tseng | yessir | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure what happened to my machine | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | it looked like everything was set up and the card was working | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | but nada | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I think it might have been the card | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | I just started up the edgy installer for the 4th time today | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | and finally got it to see my hostname | 02:05 |
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| tseng | interesting | 02:07 |
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| tseng | brilliant, this box claims to have previously had 4 bonded interfaces by my records | 02:09 |
| tseng | it has 8 total interfaces and one is reserved for management | 02:09 |
| tseng | 7/2 is not a whole number | 02:10 |
| Fujitsu_ | AHa. | 02:10 |
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| LaserJock | bah, who needs all that math stuff? ;-p | 02:10 |
| tseng | its just that it appears that someone had an interface bonded | 02:10 |
| tseng | with no other interface | 02:10 |
| tseng | a bond is > 1 interface | 02:11 |
| plugwash | maybe the management interface was an afterthought? | 02:11 |
| tseng | no, its absolutely useless w/o it | 02:11 |
| Fujitsu_ | 4 interfaces as the product of bonding, or 4 interfaces involved in bonding? | 02:12 |
| tseng | 4 total bondN interfaces | 02:12 |
| tseng | the first one | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu_ | Hm. | 02:12 |
| tseng | its ok, my coworkers arent really linux gurus | 02:13 |
| tseng | i get to sort it out afterwards | 02:13 |
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| welshbyte | good night guys, thanks for the support :) | 02:25 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:03 |
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| phanatic | does a native english speaker have time for proofreading a short article? | 03:11 |
| phanatic | hey bddebian and Hobbsee | 03:11 |
| bddebian | Heya phanatic and Hobbsee :-) | 03:11 |
| zul | hey Hobbsee | 03:11 |
| Fujitsu_ | phanatic, I can. | 03:12 |
| Fujitsu_ | And hi, Hobbsee :) | 03:12 |
| Toadstool | heya everybody | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | hey phanatic | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | phanatic: sure, where's the link? | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 03:12 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian Hobbsee and everybody else | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | hi zul | 03:12 |
| === Hobbsee notes that her physics lecturer is useless. | ||
| Hobbsee | he also manages to make time a hell of a lot slower, too | 03:12 |
| Fujitsu_ | Pfft. | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | hi Fujitsu_ | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock :) | 03:13 |
| phanatic | Fujitsu_, Hobbsee: okay, i'll put it online then :) | 03:13 |
| Fujitsu_ | I did something useful in my physics class this morning. | 03:13 |
| Fujitsu_ | It was becoming a member. | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu_: we get a different lecturer later in semester. he's much better | 03:13 |
| Fujitsu_ | Aha. | 03:13 |
| zul | physics? meh...you young'uns | 03:13 |
| Fujitsu_ | Hey, 15 isn't /that/ young... | 03:14 |
| Fujitsu_ | Well, maybe it is... | 03:14 |
| phanatic | Fujitsu_, Hobbsee: http://phanatic.hu/announcement_en.txt (maybe you'll need to change charset to utf-8 to display some bits properly) | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | zul: indeed. and you're old and decrepit | 03:15 |
| zul | happy bday to you too | 03:16 |
| === Fujitsu_ looks | ||
| phanatic | thanks :) | 03:16 |
| phanatic | please send me your corrections in a /query | 03:16 |
| phanatic | oh my, it's already 3:15am here :/ | 03:17 |
| bddebian | So who got in today? | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu and welshbyte made Member | 03:19 |
| Fujitsu_ | Yup :D | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | phanatic: i just put it into kate, and will pastebin it? | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | yay :) | 03:19 |
| bddebian | Great, congrats Fujitsu_ | 03:20 |
| bddebian | trappist didn't get in? | 03:20 |
| phanatic | Hobbsee: would be perfect, thanks | 03:20 |
| Fujitsu_ | Thanks for your support, bddebian :) | 03:20 |
| bddebian | NP | 03:20 |
| bddebian | Thanks for your efforts :-) | 03:20 |
| Fujitsu_ | Thankyou for uploading some of my packages :) | 03:20 |
| Toadstool | wow Fujitsu_ and welshbyte are members now? congrats' :) | 03:22 |
| LaserJock | darn it, I can't seem to get anything done :( | 03:22 |
| Toadstool | I wish I had a permanent internet connection :/ | 03:22 |
| === LaserJock thinks he needs to call it a day | ||
| zul | LaserJock: heh i think i can hear your wife calling you ;) | 03:22 |
| Toadstool | heh | 03:23 |
| LaserJock | zul: she already called a few minutes ago saying it was time for dinner | 03:23 |
| Fujitsu_ | Thanks Toadstool. | 03:23 |
| zul | LaserJock: funny i can hear her too :) | 03:23 |
| === Fujitsu_ hits GCC Bugzilla. | ||
| Fujitsu_ | It keeps telling me I'm trying to change the Assignee. | 03:24 |
| Fujitsu_ | And then dies. | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | phanatic: http://pastebin.ca/162023 looks good :) | 03:25 |
| === Toadstool is struggling to find 1) a car to buy/rent/whatever 2) the closest Social Security Office 3) a bank which accepts french guys in San Diego :P | ||
| LaserJock | Toadstool: good luck :-) | 03:26 |
| Toadstool | thx | 03:26 |
| phanatic | Hobbsee: thanks a lot :) | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | phanatic: not a problem :) did you see the suggested change bit? | 03:27 |
| phanatic | Hobbsee: yes, i'll take your suggestion | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 03:29 |
| phanatic | if i post it to -announce, will it be automatically dropped, or is there a chance to get through? :) | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | phanatic: where do you want it? ubuntu-devel-announce? if you're not subscribed to the list anyway, it'll bounce | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | phanatic: give me what you want uploaded, and i'll try to send it. i recall being subscribed to that | 03:32 |
| zul | phanatic: -devel-announce is moderated as far as i can tell | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | ah okay | 03:32 |
| phanatic | ubuntu-announce. this conference is intended for users, not developers... | 03:33 |
| phanatic | or just push it to the weekly news? | 03:33 |
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| Burgundavia | what conference? | 03:36 |
| Burgundavia | as I moderate -news, I might be able to help you | 03:36 |
| Burgundavia | actually, the fridge is probably the best place for that | 03:37 |
| phanatic | Burgundavia: there will be an ubuntu conference in hungary. i just finished the announcement in english | 03:39 |
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| Burgundavia | right, and I said that the fridge is probably the best place to announce it | 03:39 |
| Burgundavia | I can also carry it in the UWN | 03:39 |
| Burgundavia | need to add a section for "upcoming events" | 03:40 |
| gnomefreak | is there a place to find out about dapper-proposed repos? or is it the same as normal repos with -proposed in it? | 03:40 |
| phanatic | Burgundavia: thanks. where shall i send the announcement? | 03:40 |
| Burgundavia | for the fridge? fridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 03:41 |
| Burgundavia | for UWN, you can add it to the wiki page yourself (just a short summary, not the full thing) | 03:41 |
| Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13#preview | 03:41 |
| phanatic | thanks for the useful information, i was looking for these exactly :) | 03:42 |
| Burgundavia | no worries | 03:42 |
| phanatic | Burgundavia: so i should add a new section at the end called "upcoming events"? | 03:46 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 03:46 |
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| Burgundavia | phanatic: you done editing? | 03:52 |
| phanatic | Burgundavia: doing it right now | 03:52 |
| Burgundavia | sounds good | 03:52 |
| phanatic | Burgundavia: done, but i discovered a typo in the announcement i sent to fridge-devel@ | 03:58 |
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| Burgundavia | phanatic: sent another email | 03:58 |
| phanatic | Burgundavia: okay, i'll resend it | 03:58 |
| Burgundavia | still needs to see a human editor to actually write the story | 03:59 |
| phanatic | Burgundavia: sure | 04:01 |
| phanatic | i run now... it's already 4am... night folks | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | night phanatic | 04:05 |
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| lukaswayne9 | How can I apply a patch file? Like the diffs that are ditributed with packages in launchpad? | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | lukaswayne9: in the source dir: patch -p1 < ../patch.debdiff | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | lukaswayne9: often useful to run it with --dry-run first | 04:41 |
| lukaswayne9 | thanks | 04:41 |
| lukaswayne9 | where is the python distutils.core in edgy? | 04:43 |
| lukaswayne9 | python-dev or something? | 04:43 |
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| Hobbsee | lukaswayne9: check apt-cache search, or packages.ubuntu.com - i dont know offhand | 04:47 |
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| lukaswayne9 | i'm not near an edgy box, but thanks | 04:47 |
| Hobbsee | lukaswayne9: packages.ubuntu.com wont care. | 04:48 |
| lukaswayne9 | thanks | 04:48 |
| lukaswayne9 | that came out wrong, i'm really tired | 04:48 |
| lukaswayne9 | but i'm checking now, thanks :) | 04:48 |
| ajmitch | amazing, someone retied the string | 04:52 |
| Hobbsee | hmm? | 04:53 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: lower south island lost connectivity for ~4 hours, just came back | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: ahh. nice | 04:54 |
| sladen | ajmitch: you guys really only have *1* cable? | 04:55 |
| ajmitch | sladen: probably only 1 cable in this part of the country | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | this is NZ, you know | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | yes, well | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | surprising you get more than dialup | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | so am I | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | & we have to fight for that, too | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | move to a nicer country :P | 04:56 |
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| ajmitch | yes, like japan | 04:57 |
| ajmitch | I certainly wouldn't move to australia just for 'fast' internet access | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:58 |
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| Hobbsee | heh | 05:21 |
| LaserJock | I kept backing up and then just untaring in ~/ | 05:22 |
| LaserJock | so it looks like ~/ inside of ~/ inside of ~/ | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 05:23 |
| Hobbsee | i've done that too | 05:23 |
| Fujitsu_ | Hobbsee, what's a differing upstream tarball got to do with anything? | 05:34 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu_: because if the debian tarball has a different md5sum to the ubuntu one, it wont overwrite, saying that it's already in the distro | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | if it does, you'llhave to fake sync it | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | also, i rejected teh krename merge - it's not | 05:36 |
| Fujitsu_ | What's wrong with krename? | 05:37 |
| Fujitsu_ | dh_iconcache is still a valid sync, isn't it? | 05:39 |
| Fujitsu_ | Oops. | 05:39 |
| Fujitsu_ | Valid change, not sync. | 05:39 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu_: packages that are built with cdbs, that dont include a debian/cdbs/1/* dont need to have dh_iconcache, as that got adopted in the cdbs package (because i put it there) | 05:39 |
| Fujitsu_ | Ah. | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | if it's using debhelper, or has a custom kde.mk, you need it still | 05:40 |
| Fujitsu_ | That may want to be put somewhere so people can see it. | 05:40 |
| === Fujitsu_ files krename sync request. | ||
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu_: done it | 05:40 |
| Fujitsu_ | Ah, OK. | 05:40 |
| Fujitsu_ | Thanks :( | 05:40 |
| Fujitsu_ | *:) | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | done about 3 of them, actually, cos i was testing out the request sync script | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu_: it was assigned to me, wasnt it? | 05:41 |
| Fujitsu_ | What was? | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | krename | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as i made the last change | 05:41 |
| Fujitsu_ | Hmm... The upstream tarball for kstreamripper has a new name, so it should work, shouldn't it? | 05:44 |
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| crimsun | Fujitsu_: yes, it's a completely different source package | 05:51 |
| Fujitsu_ | So it is OK to sync? | 05:51 |
| crimsun | yes | 05:51 |
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| Fujitsu_ | Care to confirm it, crimsun/Hobbsee? | 05:52 |
| crimsun | if I ever catch up to your flood, sure | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | i did some a few days ago :P | 05:53 |
| Fujitsu_ | OK, I did create a bit of a flood :( | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsui | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu_: it's okay, my list was longer :P | 05:53 |
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| Fujitsu_ | OK, I'm off to maths methods now... | 05:55 |
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| Fujitsu_ | Thanks for all the merges and sync acks, Hobbsee/crimsun :) | 06:48 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | hello dholbach | 08:20 |
| dholbach | hi LaserJock | 08:20 |
| imbrandon | heay dholbach and LaserJock | 08:21 |
| dholbach | hi imbrandon | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | hola imbrandon | 08:22 |
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| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| imbrandon | no more burning laptop ? | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: heh, we just had Burning Man here | 09:00 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: fan is still running pretty hot. *shrugs* | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | hehe LaserJock i was there last year for burning man | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | some strange folks | 09:00 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 09:00 |
| === imbrandon likes the ribfest in reno | ||
| Hobbsee | current temp says 50C | 09:01 |
| Hobbsee | *shrugs* | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | 50C nots too bad | 09:01 |
| Hobbsee | i've only just turned hte machine on though | 09:01 |
| Hobbsee | 54 | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | 45 - 55 | 09:01 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: this thing has been up to 90C before. a while to go yet | 09:04 |
| imbrandon | wow 90, suprised it still works | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | of course, ksensors may be reporting back wrong | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | it tends to freeze up and die randomly when it gets that hot. | 09:05 |
| ajmitch | my old desktop ued to shutdown somewhere about 93C | 09:05 |
| imbrandon | 90 is not good at all , actualy above 60 it should auto shutoff | 09:05 |
| ajmitch | then when I was visiting .au, it shutdown permanently :) | 09:05 |
| imbrandon | ouch | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | above 60? wouldnt turn on much, if that were the case :P | 09:05 |
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| Hobbsee | it's winterhere too - i wasnt watching it in summer | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: i'm doing a *full* backup now hehe. | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | 'winter' | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | so if we don't see you for awhile, we know what happened.. | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: picture my laptop sounding ten or twenty times sicker than when you were here. | 09:06 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | uh | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | run away? | 09:06 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:06 |
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| === imbrandon wispers to konq to kick back | ||
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| imbrandon | mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev | 09:09 |
| imbrandon | doh | 09:09 |
| === ajmitch finds fix for RC f-spot bug | ||
| Hobbsee | yay | 09:14 |
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| xerxas | Hi everyone | 09:30 |
| xerxas | slomo, u there ? | 09:30 |
| xerxas | does anyone knows how to package mozilla extensions ? | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | xerxas: examine how the others are done? | 09:32 |
| xerxas | Hobbsee, I had a quick look | 09:32 |
| xerxas | it's done differently | 09:32 |
| xerxas | and most are synced from debian | 09:32 |
| grexk_ | hello xerxas | 09:33 |
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| xerxas | Hi grexk_ | 09:33 |
| xerxas | I would like to package freenigma | 09:35 |
| xerxas | it's a gpg extension for webmails inside firefox | 09:35 |
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| imbrandon | xerxas, its already packaged | 09:43 |
| imbrandon | mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail | 09:44 |
| imbrandon | sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail | 09:44 |
| imbrandon | to use it | 09:44 |
| xerxas | imbrandon, not enigmail, freenigma | 09:44 |
| xerxas | freenigma integrates with webmails | 09:44 |
| xerxas | like gmail | 09:44 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 09:44 |
| xerxas | it adds a button to encrypt the content of the form | 09:44 |
| TheMuso | Why bother integrating with gmail when gmail has POP3? | 09:49 |
| xerxas | why not ? :) | 09:49 |
| xerxas | I like gmail web interface | 09:49 |
| xerxas | messages group by conversation ordered by date, it's really a productive environment | 09:50 |
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| slomo | xerxas: yes | 10:36 |
| Fujitsu | kdegraphics is really taking its time to build... | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | Fujitsu, ;) | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | kde* takes time to build , but good things come to those that wait , right ? hehe | 10:38 |
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| xerxas | hi slomo | 10:41 |
| xerxas | slomo, do you know elisa ? | 10:41 |
| slomo | i don't think so, why? :) | 10:42 |
| Arbiter | hm doh | 10:42 |
| Arbiter | kcmpureftpd was accepted :) | 10:42 |
| slomo | xerxas: or do you mean that media center solution from fluendo? | 10:43 |
| xerxas | yes | 10:43 |
| xerxas | it's this | 10:43 |
| xerxas | slomo, is it worth trying to package it ? | 10:43 |
| xerxas | slomo: I have internet at home since yesterday evening | 10:44 |
| xerxas | I read your mail ... | 10:44 |
| slomo | it's already packaged for debian in pkg-gstreamer... but not yet ready for uploading | 10:44 |
| xerxas | ok | 10:44 |
| slomo | maybe with next release or something :) | 10:44 |
| xerxas | My internet access is kind of broken (the modem is given by the isp , it does nat, but you configure nat on the ISP website, and they upload the config on your modem ) | 10:45 |
| xerxas | unfortunately, the website is broken so I cannot have nat ... | 10:45 |
| xerxas | ... | 10:45 |
| xerxas | slomo, what I should do with gnash ? | 10:46 |
| xerxas | find why it seg faults ? | 10:46 |
| xerxas | slomo, you wrote: The version from experimental doesn't work at all in edgy... at least | 10:46 |
| xerxas | for me the firefox/mozilla plugin segfaults immediately :( | 10:46 |
| slomo | yes, fix it :) but it seems the bugs are known in debian too | 10:46 |
| xerxas | ok | 10:46 |
| slomo | so maybe try a newer cvs snapshot | 10:46 |
| xerxas | ok | 10:46 |
| xerxas | cvs update within that tree and rename the direcotry ? | 10:46 |
| slomo | or talk with the debian maintainer | 10:46 |
| xerxas | ok | 10:46 |
| xerxas | slomo, I'm just new to this process ... | 10:47 |
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| xerxas | I would like to make a simple package not yet packaged | 10:47 |
| slomo | no you do a cvs checkout and then create a tarball from this | 10:47 |
| xerxas | ok | 10:47 |
| slomo | if upstream is sane via "make distcheck" | 10:47 |
| xerxas | copying debian directory in the new tree would work ? | 10:47 |
| slomo | and then you go into the debian package and run uupdate /path/to/newtarball | 10:47 |
| slomo | should work when the only changes in the diff.gz are the debian directory | 10:48 |
| ajmitch | hi slomo | 10:49 |
| slomo | hi ajmitch | 10:49 |
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| Fujitsu | Hm. | 10:54 |
| Fujitsu | Ettercap has some issues. | 10:54 |
| Fujitsu | With both this upload and the last... | 10:54 |
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| Fujitsu | Can somebody please upload a patch for me, in order to let ettercap build? | 10:55 |
| xerxas | slomo, or I can try to package that : http://thomer.com/icmptx/ | 10:58 |
| slomo | xerxas: sure, do it :) sounds cool | 10:59 |
| xerxas | :) | 10:59 |
| xerxas | cool | 11:00 |
| xerxas | not right now | 11:00 |
| xerxas | I have a meeting | 11:00 |
| xerxas | then lunch | 11:00 |
| === cypher1 is away: I'm busy | ||
| xerxas | then we'll see: ) | 11:00 |
| === cypher1 is back (gone 00:00:03) | ||
| === Fujitsu is annoyed: at away scripts | ||
| === cypher1 is away: Away from Desk | ||
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| Arbiter | heh :) | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | cypher1: kill the script please | 11:05 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, got a second to upload a two line change to ettercap? Neither of the last two uploads succeeded, as somebody added a .desktop and icon, but not the directories they're meant to reside in. | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: i noticed that, actually. that our version ftbfs. | 11:07 |
| Fujitsu | Yeha. | 11:08 |
| === Hobbsee thinks | ||
| Fujitsu | As does the one before. | 11:08 |
| Fujitsu | I've got a patch. | 11:08 |
| Fujitsu | http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/ettercap_fix.diff | 11:08 |
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| Fujitsu | I'm surprised that that FTBFS got through three people: jpatrick, myself, Hobbsee... It's very odd, because I'm /sure/ I build-tested it. | 11:16 |
| Fujitsu | Actually, the .desktop and icon should probably be installed in -gtk, not -common... | 11:26 |
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| welshbyte | good morning | 11:54 |
| Fujitsu | Morning, welshbyte. | 11:54 |
| Fujitsu | And congratulations on your membership! | 11:54 |
| welshbyte | hey Fujitsu | 11:54 |
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| welshbyte | same to you :) | 11:54 |
| welshbyte | hi gnomefreak | 11:54 |
| gnomefreak | hi welshbyte congrats | 11:55 |
| welshbyte | thanks :) | 11:55 |
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| Lutin | Hi | 12:12 |
| Fujitsu | Hi, Lutin. | 12:12 |
| Lutin | is there any policy concerning the x-session-managers packaging ? | 12:12 |
| Fade | well, this xemacs bug is serious... | 12:20 |
| TheMuso | welshbyte: Did you get membership or something? | 12:21 |
| welshbyte | TheMuso: yeah :) | 12:21 |
| TheMuso | Congrats. | 12:22 |
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| welshbyte | thanks | 12:22 |
| TheMuso | Welcome | 12:22 |
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| Fujitsu | Hi, Arbiter. | 12:27 |
| Arbiter | heya Fujitsu | 12:27 |
| Arbiter | sigh | 12:28 |
| Arbiter | i'm too busy | 12:28 |
| Arbiter | i've missed yesterday's CC | 12:28 |
| Arbiter | :/ | 12:28 |
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| Lutin | is there any policy concerning the x-session-managers packaging ? | 01:05 |
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| welshbyte | hey Hobbsee | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | hi welshbyte | 01:14 |
| geser | hello | 01:14 |
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| Fujitsu | Hi Hobbsee. | 01:15 |
| geser | libao-polyp is uninstallable and unbuildable in edgy because of missing libpolyp-dev (source was polypaudio). polypaudio got remove on 2005-12-21 from dapper | 01:18 |
| geser | what should happen with libao-polyp? | 01:18 |
| Hobbsee | what source is libao-polyp in? | 01:19 |
| geser | libao-polyp is both binary and source name | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | i'ts not in edgy | 01:19 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah, neither the source nor binary are. | 01:19 |
| geser | Hobbsee: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/sound/libao-polyp | 01:20 |
| geser | I see it's amd64 only. why? | 01:20 |
| geser | and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libao-polyp/ doesn't say it got removed | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libao-polyp/0.3-1ubuntu1 | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | the others are sitting in dep wait | 01:21 |
| geser | yes, because of the missing libpolyp-dev | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | geser: it was never built for amd64 for edgy. | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | geser: file a request asking for it to be removed from the archive. | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | check the rdepends on it first | 01:22 |
| slomo | geser: so get polypaudio (aka pulse) 0.9.something from unstable maybe | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | slomo: if it was removed on dapper though.... | 01:24 |
| slomo | Hobbsee: because of "dead" upstream... upstream got alive again recently and polyp much better now | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 01:25 |
| geser | there is currently only an ITP for pulseaudio available | 01:28 |
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| Arbiter | Hobbsee: ping? (don't worry i won't ask you for reviews) | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | Arbiter: heya | 01:46 |
| Arbiter | hey :) | 01:46 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: there's a small issue with konqueror on kubuntu with purple theme | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | Arbiter: that some of it's still blue? | 01:47 |
| Arbiter | yep | 01:48 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: want a screenshot? | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | Arbiter: yeah, although i think i know what you're talking about | 01:48 |
| Arbiter | http://www.arbiterlab.net/shots/sshot.png | 01:49 |
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| Arbiter | Hobbsee: konqueror logo is still blue | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | Arbiter: yep | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | i think kwwii's fixing that | 01:50 |
| Arbiter | well :) | 01:51 |
| geser | Hobbsee: could you add an ACK to bug 59168? | 01:53 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59168 in libao-polyp "[Edgy] Please remove libao-polyp from the archive" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59168 | 01:53 |
| === Arbiter needs to reboot.. | ||
| Arbiter | brb | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | geser: wasnt that going to be fixed, with a new polyaudio thing? get slomo or someone who knows something about it to ack it | 01:56 |
| geser | ok | 01:56 |
| geser | pulseaudio isn't packaged yet | 01:56 |
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| neutrinomass | can somebody please ACK bug 59171 ? | 02:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59171 in deal "Please sync deal 3.0.8-4 from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59171 | 02:20 |
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| xerxas | Where do I find 822-date ? | 02:49 |
| xerxas | oops | 02:49 |
| StevenK | dpkg-dev | 02:49 |
| xerxas | sorry | 02:49 |
| xerxas | I have it | 02:49 |
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| kagou | can a motu have a look at my 2 packages on revu ? | 02:51 |
| jenda | Hello - does anyone have a link handy for a .deb packaging guide or something of the sort? | 02:52 |
| kagou | jenda: in system/help/documentations | 02:53 |
| jenda | system or online documentation, kagou? | 02:53 |
| zul | doc.ubuntulinux.org | 02:53 |
| zul | er...docs | 02:54 |
| kagou | jenda: like zul, and also on www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ | 02:54 |
| jenda | thx | 02:54 |
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| jenda | ok, good 'nuff. laters. | 02:55 |
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| kagou | cya | 02:55 |
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| Hobbsee | !packagingguide > jen | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | !packagingguide > jenda | 03:03 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: perhaps you know how to disable AIGLX in edgy? | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | nope | 03:06 |
| Arbiter | aw | 03:06 |
| Arbiter | since i get something like this http://phpfi.com/149574 | 03:07 |
| Arbiter | in edgy | 03:07 |
| Arbiter | composite is not enabled in my xorg.conf... but AIGLX seems to enable it automatically | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | that was eay :P | 03:08 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt deal in compiz, aiglx, etc | ||
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: me too but | 03:08 |
| Arbiter | i've installed Knot2 this morning | 03:08 |
| Arbiter | and this is the result :P | 03:09 |
| Arbiter | (i don't have xgl nor compiz installed) | 03:09 |
| Arbiter | and AIGLX seems to be included in xserver-xorg | 03:09 |
| Arbiter | :P | 03:09 |
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| Hobbsee | ah | 03:10 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:12 |
| Arbiter | hey bddebian | 03:12 |
| bddebian | Hello Arbiter | 03:12 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: composite extensions seems to enabled also when they're not explicitly enabled via xorg.conf | 03:13 |
| Arbiter | this breaks ATI 3d support by default | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 03:14 |
| === Hobbsee has an X that "just works" (tm) | ||
| Arbiter | (i think that nvidia users shouldn't have problems) | 03:14 |
| Arbiter | bddebian: i've read your comment about ktagebuch | 03:14 |
| Arbiter | what were the problems in detail? | 03:14 |
| bddebian | Arbiter: You'll have to refresh my memory :-) | 03:15 |
| Arbiter | "Overall the packaging looks good but run linda/lintian on your resulting debs, there are several issues. Thanks." | 03:15 |
| Arbiter | (sorry, i've been busy for a while) | 03:15 |
| === Arbiter missed yesterday's CC too :/ | ||
| bddebian | Did you run linda and/or lintian on your .deb files? | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | linda | 03:16 |
| Arbiter | hm wait | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as i can harrass the maintainer when it crashes. isnt that right, StevenK? :P | 03:16 |
| Arbiter | i'm from a fresh ubuntu installation :P | 03:17 |
| Arbiter | i need to rebuild the .debs :P | 03:17 |
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| Arbiter | i'm (re)building the package | 03:36 |
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| geser | slomo: about the libao-polyp package: should it be removed as pulseaudio isn't in debian yet (only ITP'ed)? | 03:42 |
| slomo | geser: probably... i thought pulse was already in debian | 03:43 |
| slomo | geser: but if that's not the case yet... remove :) | 03:43 |
| geser | could you then add an ACK to bug 59168? | 03:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59168 in libao-polyp "[Edgy] Please remove libao-polyp from the archive" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59168 | 03:43 |
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| Arbiter | bddebian: ping? | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Arbiter: Yo | 03:51 |
| Arbiter | W: ktagebuch; The library libfilesystem is not in a shlibs file. | 03:52 |
| Arbiter | W: ktagebuch; The library libktagebuch is not in a shlibs file. | 03:52 |
| Arbiter | ? | 03:52 |
| Arbiter | these errors/warnings? | 03:52 |
| bddebian | Aye | 03:53 |
| Arbiter | mh | 03:53 |
| Arbiter | also | 03:54 |
| Arbiter | E: ktagebuch: postinst-must-call-ldconfig usr/lib/libktagebuch.so.1.0.0 | 03:54 |
| Arbiter | mh | 03:54 |
| === Arbiter fixes | ||
| bddebian | Arbiter: Good man! :-) | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | using dh_makeshlibs? | 03:58 |
| Arbiter | yup, and calling ldconfig in postinst | 03:59 |
| Arbiter | ajmitch: ah, i need your help | 03:59 |
| Arbiter | hm nope :P | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | you shouldn't need to put ldconfig in postinst manually, if debhelper is being used throughout | 04:01 |
| Arbiter | mh ok :) | 04:02 |
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| welshbyte | ho hum, back to work | 04:08 |
| Arbiter | bddebian: http://phpfi.com/149602 | 04:10 |
| Arbiter | o.O | 04:10 |
| bddebian | Heya welshbyte, congrats! :-) | 04:11 |
| bddebian | Arbiter: Those come from the package itself right? | 04:12 |
| Arbiter | yep | 04:12 |
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| Arbiter | ..so? | 04:13 |
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| Adri2000 | hello :) | 04:13 |
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| Arbiter | hello Adri2000 | 04:14 |
| bddebian | Arbiter: Sorry I'm at work so I'm a little in and out | 04:14 |
| Arbiter | np | 04:15 |
| Arbiter | :) | 04:15 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: ping? | 04:15 |
| Adri2000 | does someone know what is that (in debian/rules) : | 04:15 |
| Adri2000 | ifneq "$(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub)" "" | 04:15 |
| Adri2000 | cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub | 04:15 |
| Adri2000 | endif | 04:15 |
| Adri2000 | there is the same with config/guess | 04:15 |
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| Adri2000 | config.guess sorry | 04:15 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: i've got no answers from upstreams authors of *-servicemenu | 04:16 |
| bddebian | Arbiter: I'm not sure I know the answer to that one :-( | 04:16 |
| Arbiter | (attach-to-email-servicemenu and debian-servicemenu) | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | Arbiter: what over? a debian/ ir or something? | 04:16 |
| Arbiter | Hobbsee: the licensing issue (website says GPL but no copyright or GPL comments in source files) | 04:16 |
| broonie | Adri2000: It means "update to a current copy of config.{sub,guess} if there is one on the system" | 04:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh, yes, right | 04:17 |
| Arbiter | i sent the email about 1 month ago | 04:17 |
| Arbiter | i don't know if nuke and remove them from PackageCandidates or not :/ | 04:17 |
| Adri2000 | broonie: should i let this as it is ? because then i have a 2877 lines diff.gz :-/ | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | Adri2000: that seems like a lot. | 04:19 |
| Adri2000 | i agree :) | 04:19 |
| broonie | Yes, unfortunately some people seem to think that's a good way to do things. | 04:24 |
| broonie | You can avoid the enormous diff be removing the package that provides config.{sub,guess} (autotools-dev IIRC) during the build. | 04:24 |
| Arbiter | or delete the ifneq "$(" stuff | 04:24 |
| Arbiter | :P | 04:24 |
| Adri2000 | broonie: who are "some people" ? dh_make itself adds theses lines when creating debian/rules, i think because it detects config.{sub,guess} in the directory. | 04:27 |
| welshbyte | bddebian: thanks :) | 04:33 |
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| bddebian | welshbyte: Noo, THANK YOU :-) | 04:34 |
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| Arbiter | bug 58112 | 04:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58112 in xorg "Add a debconf option to disable composite extention" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58112 | 04:43 |
| Arbiter | haha! found the xorg bug | 04:44 |
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| Quinn_Storm | hey guys, quick question about pbuilder...is it possible & safe to pbuilder for a different arch than you run on? (like build amd64 packages on an i386 system?) | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | and yes | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | as for how, you'll likely have to check man pbuilder, as i dont remember, btu i've seen it done | 05:09 |
| Quinn_Storm | ok, because people are getting upset that my amd64 packages are out of date. this will be nice for them | 05:09 |
| Quinn_Storm | ok...strange...not mentioned in man pbuilder... | 05:12 |
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| zul | hey laserjock | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | hi zul | 05:18 |
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| dholbach | I'd prefer if quinn_storm would get his packages into ubuntu | 05:36 |
| dholbach | narf | 05:36 |
| dholbach | it's his packages that we get bug reports for | 05:37 |
| bddebian | I thought Quinn_Storm was a she? | 05:37 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 05:38 |
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| gnomefreak | she is a she | 05:49 |
| gnomefreak | dholbach: shes thought about it | 05:51 |
| dholbach | gnomefreak: ah ok | 05:52 |
| dholbach | gnomefreak: I think I'm going to write her and invite her to work with the desktop team on it | 05:52 |
| gnomefreak | cool | 05:53 |
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| Sp4rKy | does anyone over edgy ? | 06:19 |
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| Quinn_Storm | hey, anyone got any more info on building amd64 binaries/packages on an i386 system? | 06:32 |
| habeeb | Since a guy asked in the wiki, are there logs from the sessions about packaging? | 06:32 |
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| LaserJock | habeeb: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/ | 06:38 |
| habeeb | Thanks | 06:39 |
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| habeeb | I think I did something retarded ^_^ | 07:01 |
| habeeb | Following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics | 07:01 |
| habeeb | I used the command on step 3. | 07:01 |
| habeeb | Which says something about edgy,and I have dapper <: | 07:01 |
| geser | Are you trying to backport packages? | 07:04 |
| thom | did you see step 1? | 07:04 |
| habeeb | thom: yes, I obviously saw step 1. | 07:04 |
| habeeb | thom: but it didnt say "If you use dapper, bypass step 2" | 07:04 |
| habeeb | It should have been waaayyy more clear.. | 07:04 |
| habeeb | So, what did I do? ^_^ | 07:05 |
| habeeb | and what should I expect? | 07:05 |
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| thom | habeeb: why would you skip step 2? | 07:06 |
| thom | habeeb: the point i was referring to was "If you are running Dapper download Edgy's debootstrap from [WWW] packages.ubuntu.com and install it with dpkg -i" | 07:06 |
| habeeb | Because I'm using Dapper. And the command it gives, says something about edgy | 07:06 |
| habeeb | sudo pbuilder create --distribution edgy \ --othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse" | 07:06 |
| thom | well, if you want to create a dapper pbuilder, just change all the instances of edgy to dapper | 07:07 |
| thom | but to make packages to be uploaded to the archive, you'll need an edgy pbuilder | 07:07 |
| habeeb | So, what should I do? :/ | 07:07 |
| habeeb | I dont really know what a pbuilder is.. So should I chose the edgy or the dapper one? | 07:08 |
| geser | a pbuilder is a clean environment to build packages | 07:08 |
| habeeb | I see | 07:08 |
| thom | what do you want to do? if you're just making packages for yourself, make a dapper one. if you're wanting to make packages for ubuntu itself, make an edgy one | 07:09 |
| habeeb | And what would happen if I used the edgy one on dapper? | 07:09 |
| habeeb | thom: I want to learn the packaging basics, following the school irc logs :/ | 07:09 |
| geser | you would create debs for edgy | 07:09 |
| habeeb | I see. | 07:09 |
| thom | right, so follow the instructions then. it doesn't affect your install; it creates a secondary environment | 07:09 |
| habeeb | Great thanks. | 07:10 |
| trappist | could somebody have a look at bug 55790 - there's been a patch sitting for about a month, hoping somebody could test and maybe upload it | 07:11 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55790 in oidentd "Init script always leaves defunct netstat process" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55790 | 07:11 |
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| matid | Hi, do we have a group like ubuntu-universe-sponsors, but for multiverse? | 07:38 |
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| matid | I'm sorry. In fact, I need a group like MOTU Reviewers. Should debdiffs to multiverse be assigned to them or do we have a different group for maintaining the multiverse? | 07:42 |
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| crimsun | matid: same group. | 07:51 |
| matid | crimsun: Thanks, that what I did | 07:52 |
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| mxpxpod | has anyone taken a look at vmware-player's kernel modules for edgy? | 08:14 |
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| AnAnt | demon@poleboy.de here ? | 08:57 |
| hub | mxpxpod: non free stuff? | 08:57 |
| hub | mxpxpod: that would violate the kernel license? | 08:58 |
| mxpxpod | hub: no, the free stuff | 08:58 |
| hub | are you sure it is Free Software? | 08:58 |
| mxpxpod | well, ok, it's probably not "free", but it's in multiverse | 08:58 |
| hub | AFAIR, they "taint" the kernel | 08:58 |
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| mxpxpod | hub: ok... but you could apt-get install vmware-player and the kernel modules in dapper and it worked nicely... there are reports and a launchpad bug on some issues in edgy | 09:00 |
| mxpxpod | hub: so I was just wondering if multiverse is kind of on the backburner for edgy right now | 09:00 |
| hub | it is community maintained | 09:00 |
| hub | feel fre to fix the package | 09:00 |
| mxpxpod | hub: alright, thanks | 09:02 |
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| zul | actually the vmware-player kernel modules is going to be in linux-restricted for edgy | 09:20 |
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| allee | hi, | 09:39 |
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| ausimage | Hello in regards to bug#58682. The update today for edgy did not help my situation. | 10:23 |
| crimsun | bug 58682 | 10:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58682 in galeon "Consistent Crash on Specific Pages in Edgy" [Untriaged,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58682 | 10:25 |
| ausimage | Hey crimsun. I am just looking to get this universe package bug addressed so that Galeon will be useable when it comes out in October. | 10:26 |
| crimsun | I'll attempt to reproduce it w/ galeon, hold. | 10:31 |
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| crimsun | err, maybe not, since routing seems to be screwed | 10:34 |
| ausimage | Tnx for trying crimsun... I will try and keep on this bug over the next few days. I am usually connected to IRC though not in chat. I would appreciate any revelations. | 10:37 |
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| mxpxpod | zul: really? | 10:51 |
| mxpxpod | zul: when is that happening (the vmware modules in linux-restricted) | 10:51 |
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| trappist | what's the proper way to build a package with a specific compiler flag, if the configure script respects, say, CXXFLAGS | 10:55 |
| trappist | as an env var, not an argument | 10:56 |
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| bddebian | trappist: Inside of debian/rules? | 10:57 |
| trappist | bddebian: yeah | 10:58 |
| bddebian | You can set CFLAGS or I believe there is something like DEB_CONFIG_OPTS or something like that | 10:59 |
| trappist | ok thanks | 10:59 |
| crimsun | CFLAGS="" CXXFLAGS="" ./configure --blah | 10:59 |
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| trappist | crimsun: yeah that I can do, I was wondering how to say that in debian/rules | 11:00 |
| crimsun | above verbatim | 11:00 |
| crimsun | (well, not verbatim, I suppose, since you probably want to enumerate CFLAGS and/or CXXFLAGS) | 11:00 |
| trappist | ok I just said CXXFLAGS="-myflag" in debian rules and I got the result I was looking for | 11:02 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Always have to show me up eh? :) | 11:05 |
| crimsun | bddebian: it's the same thing you said | 11:08 |
| bddebian | :-) | 11:09 |
| trappist | bug 19124 <-- this has been a bug since hoary and is still in edgy, and I think there is no solution - can we drop the amd64 package? | 11:09 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 19124 in partimage "partimage 0.6.4-10 on Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.04 fails at runtime" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/19124 | 11:09 |
| trappist | debian has dropped it | 11:10 |
| crimsun | if they've already dropped it, it will be autosynced out next go-round [or you can ask for its explicit removal now] | 11:11 |
| trappist | crimsun: they've dropped the amd64 version, because that's where the bug is - does the same thing apply? | 11:11 |
| crimsun | yes, dropping arch-specific bins | 11:12 |
| trappist | how often are go-rounds? | 11:14 |
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| crimsun | frequent at the beginning of the dev cycle, all but nonexistent now | 11:15 |
| crimsun | you can still file a bug against the source package | 11:15 |
| trappist | I think that's what that bug is | 11:16 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: can you change permissions on files in debian/rules? | 11:16 |
| crimsun | yes | 11:16 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: just chmod? | 11:18 |
| crimsun | (is this in reference to #edubuntu?) | 11:18 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: heh, yeah, sorry | 11:18 |
| crimsun | I haven't read all the backscroll, sec | 11:18 |
| LaserJock | for the spec I'm doing I need to install files o-r | 11:19 |
| crimsun | so they need to ship o-r before dh_builddeb(1) is invoked | 11:20 |
| trappist | crimsun: according the changelog, debian dropped the amd64 version of this package 2 years ago this last monday | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: I did: chmod 640 $(CURDIR)/debian/edubuntu-menus/usr/share/edubuntu-menus/groups/*.menu | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | but it didn't look like it worked | 11:21 |
| crimsun | you can use dh_fixperms -X | 11:22 |
| crimsun | although I don't see why it wouldn't have worked | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | well, maybe I messed something up | 11:23 |
| crimsun | pastebin debian/rules? | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22775 | 11:24 |
| bddebian | Damn I hate when my job gets in the way of MOTUness :-( | 11:24 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 11:24 |
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| LaserJock | -rw-r----- would be 640, right? | 11:27 |
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| crimsun | yes | 11:27 |
| bddebian | d000d | 11:28 |
| LaserJock | darn, I just get -rw-r--r-- | 11:28 |
| bddebian | Even my dumb ass gets those.. ;-P | 11:28 |
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| bddebian | Until, of course, you throw in setuid and setgid :-) | 11:28 |
| LaserJock | yeah, chemist here, smarter you are the dumber you get | 11:28 |
| bddebian | hehe | 11:29 |
| bddebian | damnit, now I have no excuse.. :-) | 11:29 |
| cbx33 | Hey peeps | 11:30 |
| welshbyte | i'm a student and i have no drug or alcohol problem to fall back on :/ | 11:30 |
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| welshbyte | heh :) | 11:33 |
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| bddebian | OK heading home. Later gang | 11:35 |
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| crimsun | ah, debhelper | 11:43 |
| crimsun | just work around that by using postinst as ogra suggested | 11:44 |
| mxpxpod | zul: ping? | 11:44 |
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