[12:09] since elmo doesn't appear to really be active === Hobbsee thougth they had quorum with 2 [12:09] ahhh [12:09] probably [12:09] that should now be active quroum, yay [12:09] great, they're here === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] is the CC, umm happening? === Cogito_ergo_sum [n=c27@201.210.108.110] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] sorta [12:13] LaserJock: sure, once everyone gets settled in [12:13] I think we're waiting on the rest of the cc [12:13] ok, cool [12:13] I thought I was late [12:13] trappist: enough of the CC is there [12:13] LaserJock: nah, mako was just busy, elmo was trying to track him down [12:13] once they get off the phone, anyawy [12:13] I might be afk here and there [12:27] ok, this might be a silly question [12:27] can you run kernel modules for a different kernel in a chroot? [12:27] no === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-124-226.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] the chroot uses your running kernel, it's not a virualized environment [12:28] if I were to run Xen could I use a different kernel? [12:28] the thing is, I really want to run Ubuntu on a particular machine, but I have one thing that needs a 2.4 kernel [12:29] LaserJock: you'd still have to run a special domU kernel for the xen guest [12:29] which for us is the same as the dom0 [12:29] Later folks [12:30] Someone please push welshbyte and trappist for me at the meeting :-) [12:30] Sorry for bailing welshbyte [12:30] heh :) === ajmitch can't push [12:31] I don't know enough of what they've done :) [12:31] ajmitch: bughunter [12:31] ajmitch: would pulling for me be more appropriate? :) === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cogito_ergo_sum [n=c27@201.210.108.110] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] what does W: changelog-should-mention-nmu actually mean [12:44] and W: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 0.4 [12:44] cbx33: you can ignore it. in debian, people are only allowed to upload things if they're the maintainer, on the uploaders list for that package [12:45] or they can NMU, which means non-maintainer upload [12:45] thanks Hobbsee [12:45] one more Hobbsee [12:45] debian-rules-missing-required-target binary-arch [12:45] cbx33: what version number is the package? [12:45] usually they'll version with .1, hence the incorrect version number [12:45] 0.4 [12:45] it was 0.3 [12:45] er, pass? [12:45] should be 0.4-0ubuntu1 anyway [12:45] but I just implemented a major spec === printk [i=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] oh.....ok..... [12:46] the original pacakge in ubuntu was 0.3 [12:46] oh. weird === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] a native package or something? [12:46] (it usually ends in ubuntu1) [12:46] :S [12:46] I'm not sure [12:46] it was written for edubuntu [12:46] student-control-panel in universe [12:46] if the last package version was 0.3, feel free to make this one 0.4 [12:46] ok [12:47] what about the debian-rules-missing-required-target binary-arch [12:47] i'm not sure [12:47] it's obviously something in debian/rules [12:47] ok [12:47] yeh [12:47] unless you took the binary arch target out [12:47] got one packaging question myself [12:48] redguy: shoot [12:48] what if upstream tarball contains files with mtime 1 jan 1970 [12:48] ? [12:48] Hobbsee, there was never a binary-arch in there [12:48] tar complains about it when running dh_make [12:48] cbx33: odd [12:49] cbx33: are you using build-deps-indep or something weird? === Hobbsee is guessing. [12:49] ah [12:49] LaserJock, any ideas? [12:49] do you have a binary-arch rule in debian/rules? [12:50] hmm....lemme check [12:50] nope [12:50] binary-indep: build install [12:50] binary: binary-indep [12:50] that's it [12:50] should I add [12:50] just a sec [12:50] binary-arch: binary-indep ? [12:51] i did touch , and rebuilt the tarball myself. Is this what I should have done? [12:51] cbx33: no, just put an empty binary-arch: [12:51] ok [12:51] and yes, it is required according to Debian Policy [12:52] ok [12:52] what is the current deb-helper version? [12:52] !info debhelper edgy [12:52] debhelper: helper programs for debian/rules. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.37.3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 499 kB, installed size 1264 kB [12:52] cbx33: 5.0.37 === ChaosFan [i=sithjanu@faui01.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0) [12:52] should I put 5.0.37 ? [12:52] yeah. or just >=5 [12:54] just building my .deb :D [12:58] lovely, my current meeting is ongoing [12:59] Ah, hi crimsun. [12:59] I was hoping you'd appear :) [01:00] sorry, real life meeting was kicking my butt; it's better now [01:02] OK... I was delayed getting here by the rain causing trains to be a bit unuseful. [01:06] meep [01:06] 'grats trappist [01:06] thanks crimsun :) [01:06] Yeah, congratulations trappist. [01:08] good luck Fujitsu_ and congrats trappist === mwolson [i=mwolson@class248.cc.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] Thanks gnomefreak. [01:09] Thanks crimsun :) [01:09] How often are CC meetings? [01:09] every 2 weeks I think [01:10] Generally, although it went 5 weeks without one. === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-228.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] sorry, need to return to the meeting. I've already posted "pro" 5 minutes ago in -meeting, so if necessary just repaste === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] gnome types: what's gct? === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] way to go Fujitsu [01:32] Fujitsu_: congrats sorry i missed it dinner was waiting [01:36] No problem, gnomefreak :) [01:36] Thanks both of you :) [01:36] has anybody done a Knot2 install? === welshbyte nods [01:37] welshbyte: did you use the desktop cd? [01:37] and what flavor [01:37] nope, alternate, and amd64 [01:37] Ubuntu? [01:37] doesnt gksu use the su password and gksudo use the user password? [01:37] yeah [01:38] I'm trying alternate i386 Kubuntu and it keeps dying on me [01:38] LaserJock: alternate i386 worked for me [01:38] LaserJock: "dying"? [01:39] gnomefreak: from the man page "gksu is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo" [01:39] welshbyte: "Processing was halted becauase there were too many erors" [01:40] pkgsel [01:40] so at the end of installing everything [01:40] ty thats what i though [01:40] t [01:40] strange.. does it give any more info on another tty? [01:40] well, that is the tty [01:41] sometimes errors/messages get dumped to a different one [01:41] hey [01:41] hey tseng [01:41] anyone have ideas about a new dapper 6.06.1 install rearranging interfaces [01:41] in the installer it says it failed on step "Select and install software" [01:41] network interfaces [01:41] old eth0 is now eth1 [01:42] I don't think I ever had that [01:42] *one* port from a four port pci card moved ahread of the two onboard nics [01:42] but I lost all network on edgy === tseng googles [01:43] I'm really frustrated these days [01:43] I can't seem to get Ubuntu boxen up and going [01:44] oh nice [01:44] /etc/iftab [01:44] rename by mac [01:45] who knows why the order sucks [01:45] i wonder if i remove this [01:45] it will go back to whatever linux wants === tseng tries, back to the data center [01:47] hmm, maybe I got a bad burn, I ran the checker thing and it failed [01:47] but the md5sum of the .iso is good [01:48] i'm currently looking at the unmet deps of libao-polyp [01:48] any hints on dealing with an upstream tarball containing some files which have their mtime set to 1 Jan 1970? [01:48] i think the checks are failing as a bug... my knot2 install disc failed so i burned it again, same thing, but the MD5sum matched so i just installed and it's going fine [01:48] one of its build-depends isn't available anymore [01:48] welshbyte: stink [01:49] what to do with it? request a remove? [01:49] LaserJock: yup :/ [01:49] and installing on this stupid machine takes forever [01:52] geser: what's it build-depending on? [01:53] libpolyp-dev [01:53] part of polypaudio which was removed on 2005-12-21 from dapper [01:54] geser: didn't it change its name to pulse audio? [01:55] I don't know [01:56] there seems to be no package for pulse audio [01:56] hm maybe that's irrelevant anyway.. [01:56] sorry my brain isn't working, been awake for far too long [01:57] currently libao-polyp is uninstallable and unbuildable in edgy [02:03] LaserJock: the secret is /etc/iftab btw [02:03] to what? [02:03] LaserJock: if you remove it linux does whatever it feels like [02:03] as far as naming interfaces [02:03] s/remove/comment [02:03] I see [02:03] yessir [02:03] I'm not sure what happened to my machine [02:04] it looked like everything was set up and the card was working [02:04] but nada [02:05] hmm, I think it might have been the card [02:05] I just started up the edgy installer for the 4th time today [02:05] and finally got it to see my hostname === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ppp47-101.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] interesting === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] brilliant, this box claims to have previously had 4 bonded interfaces by my records [02:09] it has 8 total interfaces and one is reserved for management [02:10] 7/2 is not a whole number [02:10] AHa. === hub_ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] bah, who needs all that math stuff? ;-p [02:10] its just that it appears that someone had an interface bonded [02:10] with no other interface [02:11] a bond is > 1 interface [02:11] maybe the management interface was an afterthought? [02:11] no, its absolutely useless w/o it [02:12] 4 interfaces as the product of bonding, or 4 interfaces involved in bonding? [02:12] 4 total bondN interfaces [02:12] the first one [02:12] Hm. [02:13] its ok, my coworkers arent really linux gurus [02:13] i get to sort it out afterwards === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] good night guys, thanks for the support :) === imbrandon [n=imbrando@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] Heya gang === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] does a native english speaker have time for proofreading a short article? [03:11] hey bddebian and Hobbsee [03:11] Heya phanatic and Hobbsee :-) [03:11] hey Hobbsee [03:12] phanatic, I can. [03:12] And hi, Hobbsee :) [03:12] heya everybody [03:12] hey phanatic [03:12] phanatic: sure, where's the link? [03:12] hi bddebian [03:12] hi bddebian Hobbsee and everybody else [03:12] hi zul === Hobbsee notes that her physics lecturer is useless. [03:12] he also manages to make time a hell of a lot slower, too [03:13] Pfft. [03:13] hi Fujitsu_ [03:13] hey LaserJock :) [03:13] Fujitsu_, Hobbsee: okay, i'll put it online then :) [03:13] I did something useful in my physics class this morning. [03:13] It was becoming a member. [03:13] heh [03:13] Fujitsu_: we get a different lecturer later in semester. he's much better [03:13] Aha. [03:13] physics? meh...you young'uns [03:14] Hey, 15 isn't /that/ young... [03:14] Well, maybe it is... [03:15] Fujitsu_, Hobbsee: http://phanatic.hu/announcement_en.txt (maybe you'll need to change charset to utf-8 to display some bits properly) [03:15] zul: indeed. and you're old and decrepit [03:16] happy bday to you too === Fujitsu_ looks [03:16] thanks :) [03:16] please send me your corrections in a /query [03:17] oh my, it's already 3:15am here :/ [03:18] So who got in today? [03:19] Fujitsu and welshbyte made Member [03:19] Yup :D [03:19] phanatic: i just put it into kate, and will pastebin it? [03:19] yay :) [03:20] Great, congrats Fujitsu_ [03:20] trappist didn't get in? [03:20] Hobbsee: would be perfect, thanks [03:20] Thanks for your support, bddebian :) [03:20] NP [03:20] Thanks for your efforts :-) [03:20] Thankyou for uploading some of my packages :) [03:22] wow Fujitsu_ and welshbyte are members now? congrats' :) [03:22] darn it, I can't seem to get anything done :( [03:22] I wish I had a permanent internet connection :/ === LaserJock thinks he needs to call it a day [03:22] LaserJock: heh i think i can hear your wife calling you ;) [03:23] heh [03:23] zul: she already called a few minutes ago saying it was time for dinner [03:23] Thanks Toadstool. [03:23] LaserJock: funny i can hear her too :) === Fujitsu_ hits GCC Bugzilla. [03:24] It keeps telling me I'm trying to change the Assignee. [03:24] And then dies. [03:25] phanatic: http://pastebin.ca/162023 looks good :) === Toadstool is struggling to find 1) a car to buy/rent/whatever 2) the closest Social Security Office 3) a bank which accepts french guys in San Diego :P [03:26] Toadstool: good luck :-) [03:26] thx [03:27] Hobbsee: thanks a lot :) [03:27] phanatic: not a problem :) did you see the suggested change bit? [03:28] Hobbsee: yes, i'll take your suggestion [03:29] :) [03:31] if i post it to -announce, will it be automatically dropped, or is there a chance to get through? :) [03:31] phanatic: where do you want it? ubuntu-devel-announce? if you're not subscribed to the list anyway, it'll bounce [03:32] phanatic: give me what you want uploaded, and i'll try to send it. i recall being subscribed to that [03:32] phanatic: -devel-announce is moderated as far as i can tell [03:32] ah okay [03:33] ubuntu-announce. this conference is intended for users, not developers... [03:33] or just push it to the weekly news? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] what conference? [03:36] as I moderate -news, I might be able to help you [03:37] actually, the fridge is probably the best place for that [03:39] Burgundavia: there will be an ubuntu conference in hungary. i just finished the announcement in english === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] right, and I said that the fridge is probably the best place to announce it [03:39] I can also carry it in the UWN [03:40] need to add a section for "upcoming events" [03:40] is there a place to find out about dapper-proposed repos? or is it the same as normal repos with -proposed in it? [03:40] Burgundavia: thanks. where shall i send the announcement? [03:41] for the fridge? fridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [03:41] for UWN, you can add it to the wiki page yourself (just a short summary, not the full thing) [03:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13#preview [03:42] thanks for the useful information, i was looking for these exactly :) [03:42] no worries [03:46] Burgundavia: so i should add a new section at the end called "upcoming events"? [03:46] yep === hub_ is now known as hub [03:52] phanatic: you done editing? [03:52] Burgundavia: doing it right now [03:52] sounds good [03:58] Burgundavia: done, but i discovered a typo in the announcement i sent to fridge-devel@ === theCore_ [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] phanatic: sent another email [03:58] Burgundavia: okay, i'll resend it [03:59] still needs to see a human editor to actually write the story [04:01] Burgundavia: sure [04:04] i run now... it's already 4am... night folks [04:05] night phanatic === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-213-192.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-38c43efecc800bbe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] How can I apply a patch file? Like the diffs that are ditributed with packages in launchpad? [04:41] lukaswayne9: in the source dir: patch -p1 < ../patch.debdiff [04:41] lukaswayne9: often useful to run it with --dry-run first [04:41] thanks [04:43] where is the python distutils.core in edgy? [04:43] python-dev or something? === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] lukaswayne9: check apt-cache search, or packages.ubuntu.com - i dont know offhand === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] i'm not near an edgy box, but thanks [04:48] lukaswayne9: packages.ubuntu.com wont care. [04:48] thanks [04:48] that came out wrong, i'm really tired [04:48] but i'm checking now, thanks :) [04:52] amazing, someone retied the string [04:53] hmm? [04:54] Hobbsee: lower south island lost connectivity for ~4 hours, just came back [04:54] ajmitch: ahh. nice [04:55] ajmitch: you guys really only have *1* cable? [04:56] sladen: probably only 1 cable in this part of the country [04:56] this is NZ, you know [04:56] yes, well [04:56] surprising you get more than dialup [04:56] so am I [04:56] & we have to fight for that, too [04:56] heh [04:56] move to a nicer country :P === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee breaks two of the library rules at once [04:57] yes, like japan [04:58] I certainly wouldn't move to australia just for 'fast' internet access [04:58] heh === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock has realized that nested backups are not exactly the way to go ;-) [05:21] heh [05:22] I kept backing up and then just untaring in ~/ [05:22] so it looks like ~/ inside of ~/ inside of ~/ [05:23] heh [05:23] i've done that too [05:34] Hobbsee, what's a differing upstream tarball got to do with anything? [05:36] Fujitsu_: because if the debian tarball has a different md5sum to the ubuntu one, it wont overwrite, saying that it's already in the distro [05:36] if it does, you'llhave to fake sync it [05:36] also, i rejected teh krename merge - it's not [05:37] What's wrong with krename? [05:39] dh_iconcache is still a valid sync, isn't it? [05:39] Oops. [05:39] Valid change, not sync. [05:39] Fujitsu_: packages that are built with cdbs, that dont include a debian/cdbs/1/* dont need to have dh_iconcache, as that got adopted in the cdbs package (because i put it there) [05:40] Ah. [05:40] if it's using debhelper, or has a custom kde.mk, you need it still [05:40] That may want to be put somewhere so people can see it. === Fujitsu_ files krename sync request. [05:40] Fujitsu_: done it [05:40] Ah, OK. [05:40] Thanks :( [05:40] *:) [05:40] done about 3 of them, actually, cos i was testing out the request sync script [05:41] Fujitsu_: it was assigned to me, wasnt it? [05:41] What was? [05:41] krename [05:41] seeing as i made the last change [05:44] Hmm... The upstream tarball for kstreamripper has a new name, so it should work, shouldn't it? === grexk [n=grexk@124.107.72.42] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:51] Fujitsu_: yes, it's a completely different source package [05:51] So it is OK to sync? [05:51] yes === iovar [n=biocrash@athedsl-89619.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] Care to confirm it, crimsun/Hobbsee? [05:52] if I ever catch up to your flood, sure [05:53] i did some a few days ago :P [05:53] OK, I did create a bit of a flood :( [05:53] Fujitsui [05:53] Fujitsu_: it's okay, my list was longer :P === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] OK, I'm off to maths methods now... === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dudus [n=dudus@200.246.22.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.6.194.206] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] Thanks for all the merges and sync acks, Hobbsee/crimsun :) === grexk_busy [n=grexk@124.107.72.42] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shenki [n=Joel@pulteney-pix.border.net.adelaide.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-062-241-239-3.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grexk_busy is now known as grexk_ === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1FEA.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] good morning [08:20] hello dholbach [08:20] hi LaserJock [08:21] heay dholbach and LaserJock [08:21] hi imbrandon [08:22] hola imbrandon === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves [09:00] no more burning laptop ? [09:00] hi Hobbsee [09:00] hey LaserJock [09:00] imbrandon: heh, we just had Burning Man here [09:00] imbrandon: fan is still running pretty hot. *shrugs* [09:00] hehe LaserJock i was there last year for burning man [09:00] some strange folks [09:00] ;) === imbrandon likes the ribfest in reno [09:01] current temp says 50C [09:01] *shrugs* [09:01] 50C nots too bad [09:01] i've only just turned hte machine on though [09:01] 54 [09:01] 45 - 55 === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] imbrandon: this thing has been up to 90C before. a while to go yet [09:05] wow 90, suprised it still works [09:05] of course, ksensors may be reporting back wrong [09:05] it tends to freeze up and die randomly when it gets that hot. [09:05] my old desktop ued to shutdown somewhere about 93C [09:05] 90 is not good at all , actualy above 60 it should auto shutoff [09:05] then when I was visiting .au, it shutdown permanently :) [09:05] ouch [09:05] above 60? wouldnt turn on much, if that were the case :P === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] it's winterhere too - i wasnt watching it in summer [09:06] ajmitch: i'm doing a *full* backup now hehe. [09:06] 'winter' [09:06] so if we don't see you for awhile, we know what happened.. [09:06] ajmitch: picture my laptop sounding ten or twenty times sicker than when you were here. [09:06] hehe [09:06] uh [09:06] run away? [09:06] hehe === Hobbsee kicks konq === imbrandon wispers to konq to kick back === ajmitch joins in [09:09] mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev [09:09]