[12:01] <kirby904> like a tut or something
[12:01] <redguy> magnet: hmm, isn't there a destinction between NATing and masquerading? Isn't NAT broader than masq ?
[12:01] <kirby904> cause like ill know what to do if i get some steps
[12:01] <nozorro> kirby904: maybe others can, but as you can see from google's output on the topic, this method is rarely used
[12:01] <Chaosphilipp> i'm trying to create the makefiles of qt4, and it's doing now nearly an hour....
[12:01] <magnet> yep it is, but most people only use masq when doing what they call NAt
[12:01] <magnet> :)
[12:02] <lupine_85> SNAT is better as it uses less processing power
[12:02] <spuddogg> When I sudo apt-get source wine, it downloads, but does anyone know where it puts that?
[12:02] <magnet> spuddogg: in $PWD
[12:02] <redguy> magnet: It's all because of these cheap routers manufacturers and their marketing I suppose ;-)
[12:02] <kirby904> yeah it is
[12:03] <magnet> yep :) well it's because of them we don't have Ipv6 already
[12:03] <kirby904> cause like i normally can just google something n fix
[12:03] <kirby904> o well...
[12:03] <j`ey> anyone know how to solve: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:03] <kirby904> yo if i download the latest version off ubuntu.com
[12:03] <kirby904> will i get the bug or no
[12:03] <EvilGuru> I am having trouble 'printing' a pdf document. Transparent (as far as I can tell) areas turn black when printed using my printer or printing to a postscript document
[12:03] <magnet> lupine_85: I had a /48 not so long ago (at home)
[12:03] <kirby904> does the latest version on website have the bug?
[12:03] <redguy> j`ey: apt-get install build-essential ?
[12:03] <nozorro> kirby904: not sure, you only said the install halted
[12:03] <magnet> but that's not because you have them that you can do much with them
[12:03] <lupine_85> great fun, isn't it? 1.2x10^24 IP addresses
[12:04] <j`ey> redguy: ill try tha AGAIN
[12:04] <kirby904> Yes i had like a bug error thing
[12:04] <magnet> yeah, fun for vhosts on IRC, but no other use yet ;)
[12:04] <kirby904> omg i duno im just gonna start downloading new one
[12:04] <kirby904> ill cya guys later
[12:04] <nozorro> kirby904: we don't know which one ... but you should give it a try ... or maybe it's your hardware ... it's free software after all
[12:04] <kirby904> gotta get doing
[12:04] <j`ey> redguy: the first time, it gave an error
[12:04] <kirby904> yeah i know
[12:04] <angasule_> !thunderbird
[12:04] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[12:05] <redguy> j`ey: maybe it was build-essentials the first time?
[12:05] <j`ey> redguy: *shruigs*
[12:05] <rc55> Does anyone know why I'd be getting segmentation fault using DD?
[12:05] <redguy> j`ey: ^_^, you sure you want to compile stuff?
[12:05] <Toaster54> Could someone tell me how to get 5.1 sound working on ubuntu?
[12:05] <j`ey> redguy: yup!
[12:05] <redguy> rc55: which program segfaults?
[12:05] <eugman> No real point to my question but what is the current situation for a blind user wanting to be self sufficient using just the command line? Is the technology sufficiently mature?
[12:06] <redguy> j`ey: cool, just checking ;-)
[12:06] <CVirus> is webmin removed from the tree ? if yes .. then what is equivilent to it ?
[12:06] <gubuntu> someone please help me get "xserver-org" back
[12:06] <redguy> j`ey: consider using checkinstall to install the software you are compiling. It should make a crude .deb package and make uninstaling the software much easier
[12:06] <rc55> redguy: dd, the command line I use is sudo dd if=Image.dd of=/dev/hdg bs=1M, it writes out 38166+1 records, but says Segmentation fault also... :(
[12:07] <longwave> rc55: there is a bug to do with dd segfaulting somewhere in launchpad, another user had a problem with the dd process for klogd crashing the other day
[12:07] <gubuntu> runn dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-org returns "xserver-org doesnt exist
[12:07] <redguy> rc55: ah, sorry thought DD=="Dapper Drake" ;-)
[12:07] <angasule_> I'm trying to move a thunderbird account from windows to linux, but we don't remember the password, supposedly there's a .s file, but I don't see it anywhere
[12:07] <rc55> redguy: np :)
[12:07] <redguy> rc55: try with bs=512k or less perhaps?
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:08] <rc55> redguy: I'll try that.
[12:08] <rc55> longwave: thanks for the info :)
[12:08] <j`ey> redguy: from apt-get checkinstall?
[12:08] <longwave> rc55: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/42264
[12:08] <redguy> rc55: or even, since you're outputting to a harddrive try bs=512
[12:08] <redguy> j`ey: yup,
[12:08] <longwave> rc55: it only seems to affect certain language packs but looks like it is being difficult to pin down
[12:08] <redguy> j`ey: read man checkinstall to learn how to use it
[12:09] <redguy> rc55: since it is the most common block size. This should make dd'ing much faster AFAIK
[12:09] <genbie> anyone knows how i can have the glib package thread-enabled please?
[12:10] <rc55> redguy: I'm finding it hard to find any info in launchpad, any ideas?
[12:10] <hidden_> genbie: what do you mean by thread-enabled?
[12:10] <magnet> genbie: the default glib is thread enabled/thread safe
[12:11] <rc55> redguy: actually i got it :)
[12:11] <hidden_> genbie: definitely, I use it on a daily basis in a heavily multi-threaded environment
[12:11] <redguy> rc55: any info concerning what? dd?
[12:11] <redguy> rc55: cool ;-)
[12:11] <genbie> thanks hidden and magnet... i am trying to run gaim with a plugin and the developer of that plugin told me that it might have to do with threads being enabled on glib
[12:11] <magnet> well your problem is elsewhere :)
[12:11] <hidden_> genbie: that shouldn't be an issue on Ubuntu
[12:12] <Shadowpillar> occasionally, my xvideo output gets strange colors, what's the deal with this?
[12:12] <magnet> what distro gives a non thread-safe glib anyway?
[12:12] <Shadowpillar> the colors get semi-inverted
[12:12] <genbie> ok well that saved me uninstalling glib and compiling it from source!
[12:12] <z3r0x> hi there
[12:12] <longwave> there are problems with threaded glibc running under vmware, xen, things like that
[12:12] <z3r0x> is there any cpu benchmark tool?
[12:12] <effer> what command do i use to install this file : savage_linux.sh.gz
[12:12] <magnet> mhh so that's glibc
[12:12] <magnet> glib is something else :)
[12:12] <magnet> and both are threadsafe on ubuntu
[12:12] <rc55> redguy: fyi "Notice that the dd *did* work, that is, the output file is correct. It's just a segfault in the final message (that can create confusion in callers, yes, but dd works just ok)." - seems to be an error with the way it prints status messages
[12:12] <longwave> oh sorry i wasnt reading closely enough :)
[12:12] <rc55> redguy: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-fr-base/+bug/42264
[12:13] <genbie> this is the error i am getting with the gaim plugin: plugins: /usr/lib/gaim/libpaltalk.so is unloadable: /usr/lib/gaim/libpaltalk.so: undefined symbol: g_thread_init
[12:13] <gubuntu> one that handles all the dependencies that i removed when i accidently removed xserver?
[12:13] <gubuntu> whats the main gnome pkg name i need to install?
[12:13] <longwave> gubuntu: ubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <gubuntu> ah
[12:13] <redguy> rc55: hah, good to know
[12:13] <nozorro> effer: gunzip <filename>
[12:13] <genbie> undefined symbol: g_thread_init
[12:13] <magnet> longwave: one char! that's one HUGE char! ;)
[12:13] <genbie> where is that symbol defined?
[12:13] <gubuntu> thanks
[12:13] <Adam_G> Hello all. I'm having the evil "soundcard is blocked" issue, but I can't figure out why. I've killed all applications and restarted X, but it's still there. Is there a way to tell what process is blocking the soundcard?
[12:14] <lupine_85> fuser /dev/<sound-card-device-file>
[12:14] <magnet> genbie: my guess is that the module looks for a version of glib too recent
[12:14] <effer> nozorro, that kind of works...but the process never ends, i don't get a command prompt
[12:14] <lupine_85> fuser -m, rather
[12:14] <longwave> genbie: libgthread
[12:14] <Adam_G> lupine, is that for me?
[12:14] <magnet> g_thread_init is indeed in glib but if ld can't find it there's a problem :)
[12:14] <Adam_G> ah, well, it works
[12:14] <Shadowpillar> Adam_G: what program? what type of sound do you have?
[12:14] <effer> nozorro, sorry, i did...guess it was just a big file  :P  thanks
[12:14] <Adam_G> thanks lupine_85
[12:15] <Adam_G> Shadowpillar, I think I got it... lemme try this out
[12:15] <lupine_85> np :)
[12:15] <genbie> i have libgthread installed
[12:15] <nozorro> effer: you still need to set the executable bit to the unpacked file
[12:15] <lupine_85> -k to kill
[12:15] <effer> nozorro, i know :)  thanks again
[12:15] <genbie> lonfwave /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0
[12:15] <hidden_> genbie: it's there in the include files
[12:15] <genbie> longwave
[12:15] <nozorro> effer: ok
[12:15] <hidden_> genbie: so it should be present in the shared lib as well
[12:15] <magnet> libgthread?!
[12:16] <genbie> so it shouldnt cpomplain right?
[12:16] <magnet> mhh
[12:16] <magnet> that's not where the problem lies
[12:16] <magnet> it's a problem with linking against glib
[12:16] <magnet> (where the function g_thread_init is)
[12:16] <longwave> what is the output of "ldd /usr/lib/gaim/libpaltalk.so" ?
[12:16] <genbie> ok
[12:17] <genbie> thanks magnet
[12:17] <genbie> longwave can i past several lines??
[12:17] <longwave> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:18] <genbie> !pastebin linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
[12:18] <genbie>         libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb7f3c000)
[12:18] <genbie>         libnsl.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libnsl.so.1 (0xb7f27000)
[12:18] <genbie>         libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7df8000)
[12:18] <genbie>         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
[12:18] <redguy> hah
[12:18] <genbie> sorry
[12:18] <genbie> sorry i didnt mean to
[12:18] <[GuS] > Au Revoir!
[12:18] <redguy> genbie: your intentions were good :-)
[12:18] <genbie> ok redguy ;-)
[12:19] <magnet> genbie: are you building the module or using a binary?
[12:19] <genbie> i used the .package format
[12:19] <magnet> mh? which means a) or b) ?
[12:19] <magnet> :)
[12:19] <genbie> binary
[12:19] <magnet> ok
[12:19] <ubuntu> hi
[12:20] <FusionXN1> Hi everyone
[12:20] <magnet> i think the module was build with another toolchain .. so the easiest thing you can do is compile it
[12:20] <ubuntu> who are you guys?
[12:20] <magnet> (against YOUR glib-dev)
[12:20] <ubuntu> what
[12:20] <longwave> magnet: correct me if i'm wrong here but g_thread_init is in libgthread not libglib on ubuntu (according to nm anyway) so won't that .so need to be linked to libgthread as well to work?
[12:20] <lupine_85> ubuntu: we're us. Who are you? :)
[12:20] <FusionXN1> I haven't been in here in about 3 weeks :p
[12:21] <lupine_85> doesn't ubuntu use pthreads?
[12:21] <magnet> longwave: I don't know if you're wrong so I can't correct you ;) but libgthread IS in libglib
[12:21] <magnet> (the package)
[12:22] <FusionXN1> If ubuntu would mount and be safe with NTFS drives, had X-Fi drivers and my games would work i would run it :(
[12:22] <magnet> FusionXN1: it does (a)
[12:22] <longwave> yes they are in the same package that's true, it just looks like that .so is linked against the wrong thing here
[12:22] <FusionXN1> I thought it was unsafe to write to ntfs drives
[12:22] <magnet> well anyway building it against his system should work
[12:22] <nozorro> FusionXN1: writing, yes, is still unsafe
[12:22] <Toaster54> Could someone please tell me how to get 5.1 sound working on ubuntu?
[12:23] <magnet> genbie: get libglib2.0-dev is you don't have them already
[12:23] <magnet> no, even writing isn't unsafe anymore
[12:23] <FusionXN1> you sure?
[12:23] <genbie> unfortunately there is no source just binary gaim-1.5.0.x86.package
[12:23] <nozorro> FusionXN1: this is beta still
[12:23] <genbie> magnet i have them already
[12:23] <FusionXN1> I was on ubuntu for a week and went back to xp but i lost some files as i had to convert my linux partitions back to NTFS
[12:23] <redguy> nozorro: even using captive?
[12:23] <magnet> I forgot the name but there's a FUSE userland driver for NTFS (r/w)
[12:24] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g
[12:24] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[12:24] <magnet> that's the name :)
[12:24] <mwe> and libgthread is in libglib2.0-dev
[12:24] <FusionXN1> Still in beta :(
[12:24] <magnet> extensively tested
[12:24] <FusionXN1> dont wanna risk losing my stuff
[12:24] <spuddogg> man, i read a how-to on building wine for 64 bit, and this is taking FOREVER!!
[12:24] <spuddogg> lol
[12:24] <magnet> linux too is in beta :)
[12:24] <FusionXN1> what?
[12:24] <redguy> FusionXN1: why would ytou want to write to NTFS?
[12:24] <nozorro> redguy: i'm always assuming newbie perspective
[12:24] <magnet> lol :)
[12:24] <jester45> can anyone help me set up an apche server on xubuntu no one on that channel can help me
[12:24] <FusionXN1> there are my download drives i want to use ubuntu only
[12:25] <longwave> magnet: if genbie started gaim with LD_PRELOAD set to include the libgthread that isn't linked, do you think that would work? i wonder if the plugin loading mechanism would respect that...
[12:25] <magnet> well if that's only to GET data, it's perfectly safe to mount NTFS drives read-only
[12:25] <mwe> jester45: that's no different from doing it in kde or gnome
[12:25] <redguy> FusionXN1: hmm, so, why don't you ditch NTFS and install some real filesystem?
[12:25] <FusionXN1> ya would like to write... is it true that 6.10 of ubuntu will be safe for read and write?
[12:25] <mwe> jester45: asuming you mean apache
[12:26] <magnet> longwave: I'm not sure, but then again, he can always try :)
[12:26] <mwe> jester45: did you try sudo aptitude install apache2 && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[12:26] <genbie> cool how can i do that longwave please?
[12:27] <jester45> sorry i mean Apache and i just put being xfce just in case
[12:27] <magnet> libgthread IS loaded, and is in the LD.so path so .. it should
[12:27] <magnet> work already ;)
[12:27] <magnet> if it worked with LD_PRELOAD
[12:27] <jester45> i installed it from the package manger
[12:27] <longwave> genbie: shut down gaim then start it up again with "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 gaim"
[12:27] <mwe> jester45: good. now sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:27] <longwave> genbie: this is not very likely to work, but let's see :)
[12:27] <mwe> jester45: then point firefox to localhost
[12:28] <genbie> OK cool! i will try it now
[12:28] <jester45> ok slo down please
[12:28] <jester45> slow
[12:28] <mwe> jester45: what part should be slower ? 
[12:28] <jester45> i install Apache not apche2
[12:28] <longwave> magnet: no, the problem is that the .so isn't specifying which library to find the symbols in, so ld.so doesn't know to look in libgthread, surely...
[12:28] <jester45> apache2*
[12:29] <mwe> jester45: same procedure
[12:29] <magnet> yep, that's what I said, no? :) that it would have found it already without LD_PRELOAD
[12:29] <mwe> jester45: sudo /etc/init.d/apache start instead though
[12:29] <longwave> no, it won't find it - how does it know that libgthread has that symbol in if it isn't linked from the .so ?
[12:29] <magnet> LD_PRELOAD is useful when it won't find the shared library because of a path problem
[12:30] <jester45> ok siad starting web server ... ok
[12:30] <iix> can some help me out?
[12:30] <magnet> longwave: ld does it at compile time
[12:30] <jester45> so its done?
[12:30] <genbie> some good news and bad! now the plugin is loading! but th eprogram crashes
[12:30] <iix> i wanna download ubuntu but dont know which version ?
[12:30] <longwave> magnet: but this was compiled on a non-ubuntu box with different libs
[12:30] <magnet> well gcc does it, and ld checks ;)
[12:30] <mwe> jester45: so now go to localhost with your favorite browser
[12:30] <genbie> for a differenr problem
[12:30] <magnet> yep longwave that's why i said earlier that it was built with the wrong toolchain and that building it again against his system should work
[12:31] <jester45> ok
[12:31] <longwave> genbie: oh no! well at least that did *something* i guess!
[12:31] <jester45> said placeholder page
[12:31] <noway-> I am following a guide onthe forums about fixing your MBR, and running into problems when I try to restore the initial MBR
[12:31] <mwe> jester45: I recommend apache2 though. unless you have a good reason for using apache1
[12:31] <genbie> yes thanks longwave ;-)
[12:31] <noway-> I am using grub-install /dev/sda on a chrooted ubuntu partition
[12:31] <iix> i wanna download ubuntu but dont know which version ?
[12:31] <jester45> umm not realy but all im doing is sareing some files
[12:32] <jester45> shareing
[12:32] <jester45> might do a little website that i would make
[12:32] <nozorro> iix: what processor does your machine have?
[12:32] <longwave> iix: download the desktop cd, unless you have an older computer with less than 256 mb ram
[12:32] <mwe> jester45: install apache2 instead then I'd say
[12:32] <iix> x86 intel
[12:32] <jester45> whats the sudo code for it
[12:32] <noway-> When I try to use grub-install, it says that the drive is not found
[12:32] <iix> nozorro x86 intel
[12:32] <noway-> but I can see it both in fdisk, and GParted
[12:33] <mwe> jester45: sudo aptitude remove apache && sudo aptitude install apache2
[12:33] <nozorro> iix: well, then it's ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[12:33] <iix> nozorro cheers mate
[12:33] <nozorro> iix: ... unless you want to build a server right away ...
[12:33] <jester45> then run the start command but with 2 on the end
[12:33] <mwe> jester45: right
[12:33] <jester45> cool
[12:33] <jester45> tanks
[12:33] <longwave> noway-: is this a sata drive? grub is a bit braindead with the drive labelling on certain pata + sata configurations...
[12:33] <jester45> o
[12:34] <noway-> longwave:  yes
[12:34] <jester45> never mind
[12:34] <sethk> longwave, it's not brain dead, it's just broken.  :)
[12:34] <constantine-xvi> anyone know of a good delphi-like app for linux (price not a concern)?
[12:34] <iix> nozorro what server ?
[12:34] <jester45> thanks mwe
[12:34] <mwe> jester45: yw
[12:34] <iix> nozorro i wanna use dual b00t.
[12:34] <magnet> constantine-xvi: try kylix, it's delphi for linux (abandonned, though)
[12:34] <don-o> im using kernel 2.6.15-23-686, which the dpkg description says UP/SMP. Im running an SMP box. how do i get the SMP version of the kernel?
[12:34] <dashriKe> is a 6.06 LTS CD the same as a 6.06.1 CD?
[12:34] <longwave> don-o: the 2.6 kernels in ubuntu are all SMP-enabled now
[12:35] <nozorro> iix: i meant there is a server version of ubuntu, if you want to build public servers fot FTP, HTTP, and so on
[12:35] <longwave> so you don't need to do anything, you already have it :)
[12:35] <noway-> longwave: is there anything I can do to fix the mbr?
[12:35] <don-o> longwave: ha. didnt even notice that proc/cpuinfo shows both kernels now. it didnt in the -22 version of the same kernel. thanks!
[12:35] <nozorro> iix: dual boot can be achieved with almost any linux system
[12:35] <iix> nozorro ahh k btw i cant find ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso on the site.
[12:35] <noway-> I installed XP after ubuntu, and it fubar'd the mbr
[12:35] <don-o> longwave: er, shows both processors.
[12:35] <iix> nozorro ahh wait i found it
[12:36] <magnet> constantine-xvi: or maybe it's time to start using something more in the spirit of gnu/linux (ie python, ruby, ..)
[12:36] <longwave> noway-: take a look through the bugs at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=grub+sata and see if there's anything there that might help
[12:36] <sethk> noway-, yes, if you didn't back up the mbr, you'll need to boot a live cd and reinstall grub
[12:36] <sethk> noway-, or a rescue cd
[12:36] <sethk> noway-, then you'll add windows to the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[12:36] <lupine_85> Does anyone have a link which explains the format of /proc/bus/pci/devices ?
[12:36] <noway-> sethk: I am trying to do that now, and when I run grub-install on the device, it says its not found
[12:36] <longwave> noway-: unfortunately there seems to be no fix for grub getting the labelling wrong with certain configurations, it's a problem with the way grub detects the drive order
[12:36] <nozorro> iix: go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download, then click on mirror, select PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[12:36] <lupine_85> (I know lspci uses the data, but I'd prefer to parse it myself)
[12:37] <sethk> noway-, says grub-install is not found?
[12:37] <noway-> sethk: no, the sata drive
[12:37] <longwave> noway-: do you have multiple drives in that box right now? if you can run on just the drive you're going to fix, that might help
[12:37] <sethk> noway-, put your /boot/grub/device.map on the paste bot
[12:37] <longwave> noway-: oh wait, except you need pata to boot the live cd, obviously...!
[12:37] <j`ey> anyone know how to get a dell wireless to work?
[12:37] <sethk> j`ey, I push to on/off button on mine
[12:38] <magnet> j`ey: first, remove the battery ;)
[12:38] <magnet> j/k
[12:38] <sethk> j`ey, what's not working?  wireless 'net?
[12:38] <j`ey> yeh
[12:38] <j`ey> the wireless interface is active
[12:38] <noway-> sethk: the only line in device.map is:  (hd0)    /dev/sda
[12:39] <spuddogg> Anyone here a wine guru?  I tried to run "wine SteamInstall.exe" and got the error "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."  Any ideas?
[12:39] <Khaaaan> hey guys, whats the command to fire up visual boy advance from the command line??
[12:40] <sethk> noway-, is that the only drive in your box?
[12:40] <noway-> sethk: yes.
[12:40] <genbie_> sorry guys i was disconnected
[12:40] <noway-> Should I be using, sudo grub-install /dev/hda ? even though the device is /dev/sda ?
[12:40] <genbie_> longwave what was that command  again plz.. i lost it
[12:40] <spuddogg> Anyone here a wine guru?  I tried to run "wine SteamInstall.exe" and got the error "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."  Any ideas?
[12:40] <longwave> genbie: "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 gaim" ?
[12:40] <sethk> noway-, do   ls -l /dev/sda*     paste the results to the 'bot.  Or, paste the first line here
[12:40] <genbie_> thanks!
[12:40] <mwe> spuddogg: fwiw getting steam to work in wine is a pain
[12:40] <j`ey> sethk: in my connection properties box, I type eth1, wich is the wirless, but its says disconnected?
[12:41] <Khaaaan> Ummmm
[12:41] <Khaaaan> Anyone?
[12:41] <spuddogg> mve, ok thats cool...what programs are easy...i want to see something work
[12:41] <Khaaaan> The forums are down... so...
[12:41] <mwe> spuddogg: notepad
[12:41] <sethk> j`ey, a lot of things can cause that.  the network as security (keys) defined, and you haven't configured the client with the key
[12:41] <kingdong> ubuntu seem to have server problem lately
[12:41] <spuddogg> mwe, lol
[12:41] <timshel> i'm having some trouble with the sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username command to enable my account for samba; it tells me 'Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for your user your_username.' my samba conf file is correct afaik.. anyone here saavy with samba?
[12:41] <mwe> spuddogg: wine notepad.exe
[12:41] <sethk> j`ey, that's the most common but there are lots of others
[12:41] <j`ey> sethk: hmm
[12:41] <spuddogg> mwe, where do i download notepar.exe though?
[12:42] <mwe> spuddogg: it's already present
[12:42] <noway-> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22683
[12:42] <mwe> spuddogg: just type wine notepad.exe
[12:42] <gnizzub> quit
[12:42] <spuddogg> mwe, i get the same error
[12:42] <j`ey> sethk: I think its setup without a key, is that possible?
[12:42] <ciscosurfer> Need a good screencast package...I've used Istanbul before....any others out there??
[12:42] <mwe> spuddogg: um odd
[12:42] <sethk> noway-, good, that looks normal.   try running the grub utility.  (sudo grub).   It will put up a message about looking for drives, then after a bit you'll get a grub> prompt
[12:42] <huats> does anybody know if there is somewhere to find mono 1.1.17 for dapper (in .deb I mean)
[12:42] <mwe> spuddogg: you're not root or something, are you?
[12:43] <sethk> noway-, bring that up, then we can let grub print out what drives it thinks it sees
[12:43] <ciscosurfer> huats: use Alien to convert the .deb if you can't find a .deb for it
[12:43] <noway-> sethk: ok
[12:43] <kingwolf> Is it mandatory to flash BIOS update from disk?
[12:43] <spuddogg> mwe, no not root...this time it did give me more output though.  think you can help me if i send you a pastebin?
[12:43] <root_> Where are Ubuntus X11 settings stored? (They're not in Etc\X11\Xorg.conf
[12:43] <ciscosurfer> root_: /etc/X11
[12:43] <mwe> spuddogg: maybe. I can try
[12:43] <kingwolf> And/Or can I flash from term?
[12:43] <root_> No those don't do anything Cisco.
[12:43] <root_> So where are the real settings stored?
[12:44] <spuddogg> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <nozorro> root_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- lowercase/uppercase is important
[12:44] <noway-> sethk: what is the grub command to list devices?
[12:44] <sethk> kingwolf, you have to flash in real mode, so you can't do it on a normally booted system
[12:44] <root_> That is impossible, I deleted that file and rebooted, no effect.
[12:44] <sethk> noway-, hang on, I'll check...
[12:44] <root_> I'm asking where the real settings are.
[12:44] <timshel> !samba
[12:44] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:44] <nozorro> root_: which 'real' settings?
[12:44] <ciscosurfer> noway-: find /boot/grub/stage1
[12:45] <root_> The real ones that are forcing my refresh to be 60hz, when I can do 85hz.
[12:45] <sethk> root_, I assume you tried /etc/X11, not what you typed (\etc\X11)
[12:45] <kingwolf> sethk Could you translate that to n00b-terminolgy for me?>
[12:45] <spuddogg> mwe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22685
[12:45] <root_> Yes Seth.
[12:45] <sethk> root_, your xorg.conf is incorrect, so the X server is reverting to default modes.
[12:45] <nozorro> root_: they are in the file y mentioned
[12:45] <root_> That was a just a typo, but regardless that file does not override what is happening, and so there must be another file controlling it.
[12:46] <sethk> root_, if it can't find usable configuration, it tries I think 800x600@60, but definitely something @ 60
[12:46] <mwe> spuddogg: and you are in X of course?
[12:46] <sethk> root_, no, I just explained that.  There is no other file
[12:46] <mwe> spuddogg: and running wine as the logged in user?
[12:46] <sethk> root_, you are getting a default mode because none of the modes in xorg.conf are usable
[12:46] <spuddogg> mwe, well, my GUI is running if thats what you mean
[12:46] <nozorro> root_: not necessarily just a *file* -- maybe you tell us which exact problem you have
[12:46] <ciscosurfer> noway-: do 'sudo fdisk -l' to see your drives/partitions
[12:46] <mwe> spuddogg: it is
[12:46] <root_> Then this makes absolutely no sense, I added the modelines for my monitor and it will not accept any of the settings.
[12:46] <mwe> spuddogg: and you just opened a terminal as user?
[12:47] <sethk> root_, they are wrong.  you shouldn't be adding mode lines
[12:47] <spuddogg> mwe, yes
[12:47] <sethk> root_, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:47] <ciscosurfer> root_: perhaps you need to dpkg-reconfigure
[12:47] <ciscosurfer> sethk: beat me to it!
[12:47] <sethk> root_, take the "middle difficulty" option in the monitor settings
[12:47] <root_> Alright.
[12:47] <mwe> spuddogg: odd. what does echo $DISPLAY say?
[12:47] <spuddogg> mwe "spuddogg@desktop:~/Desktop$ wine notepad.exe"
[12:47] <sethk> root_, that lets you set resolutions and vert frequencies, rather than just hor and vert
[12:47] <noway-> ciscosurfer: yeah, I can see the partitions
[12:47] <mwe> spuddogg: looks ok
[12:47] <spuddogg> mwe, how do i read $DISPLAY
[12:48] <mwe> spuddogg: just 'echo $DISPLAY' (no quotes)
[12:48] <noway-> It is booting on my NTFS parition
[12:49] <sethk> noway-, try  geometry (hd0)
[12:49] <spuddogg> mwe, when i 'echo $DISPLAY' I get ":0.0" without quotes
[12:49] <killer_> how to configure sound without the use of alsaconf
[12:49] <Fenix> hello. i have big problems setting fglrx with my ati radeon 8500 card. i can't get 3D acceleration too work. i have tried everything. does someone have an ati radeon card that is working with latest ubuntu 6.06?
[12:49] <mwe> spuddogg: good. you didn't do something like 'sudo wine' or anything like that at any point?
[12:49] <kingdong> my radeon 9000 mobility works with 6.06
[12:49] <spuddogg> mwe, no...should i close my terminal and open a new one?
[12:50] <mjr> Fenix, did you try just using it without installing fglrx?
[12:50] <mwe> spuddogg: hmm. try. if it doesn't work tell me something like 'glxgears works'
[12:50] <johnny33> ello!!
[12:50] <spuddogg> mwe, glxgears?
[12:50] <timshel> question: I am getting a "Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user sovin$' and it questions whether this user is in the UNIX pass database. It is my admin account however--why isn't it seeing it?
[12:51] <mwe> spuddogg: it should open a window with some moving gears in it
[12:51] <W_McL> got my mobility radeon 9000 working too. the latest ati drivers seem to work with it. the previous ones needed a workaround with an old libGL.so
[12:51] <spuddogg> mwe, yes that does work
[12:51] <jmitchj_> hey there...new to ubuntu...or linux for that matter...working off live cd....is there a way to access harddrive from here?
[12:51] <mwe> spuddogg: I want to see if it's a general problem
[12:51] <Fenix> mjr: everything except 3d is working ok with and without fglrx
[12:51] <spuddogg> mwe, yes that does work
[12:51] <johnny33> i cannot seem to login to my ubuntu box as user....i can login but not startx....   /tmp directory problem?     I tried sudo chmod 1777 /tmp  but still get error that /tmp is not writeable
[12:51] <johnny33> any ideas?
[12:51] <timshel> is your disk almost full?
[12:52] <Fenix> i also have made apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:52] <johnny33> lemme see
[12:52] <mwe> spuddogg: I'm about out of ideas. try rm -rf ~/.wine and retry. if that doesn't work i don't know what to do
[12:52] <noway-> sethk: no luck, it is giving me "Selected disk does not exisit"
[12:52] <root_> Guys, thanks for the help on this, but even in dkpg-reconfigure there is no listing for 1024x768@85
[12:52] <johnny33> btw ...root loggs into x just fine
[12:52] <Fenix> and i also have tried drivers from ati's page
[12:52] <spuddogg> mwe, is that going to uninstall wine?
[12:52] <mwe> spuddogg: no
[12:52] <timshel> johnny: if your hard drive is near full capacity, i've had trouble not being to login. you could check with df -h
[12:52] <mwe> spuddogg: just the user settings
[12:52] <mwe> spuddogg: for wine that is
[12:53] <sethk> noway-, hmm.  too bad.  I was hoping it would find it in the booted system even though it didn't see it at boot.
[12:53] <sethk> noway-, let me think for a moment.
[12:53] <spuddogg> mwe, you should also know i had to build wine to run in 64-bit...maybe thats why these programs wont work?
[12:53] <johnny33> shit it looks pretty full to me...hehe
[12:53] <mwe> spuddogg: oh
[12:53] <mwe> spuddogg: maybe that's the problem
[12:53] <spuddogg> mwe: lol, i guess i should have told you that sooner, sorry man
[12:53] <Fenix> when i try glxinfo i get: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:54] <mwe> spuddogg: ok
[12:54] <simaro> hi everyone....somebody have installed the CGWD Themer ? I can't find a good source for Apt
[12:54] <timshel> johnny33: delete some p0rn xP
[12:54] <W_McL> Fenix: unfortunately the proprietary ati drivers seem not to work properly with some cards
[12:54] <johnny33> timshel:   just did  : P
[12:54] <johnny33> no do i just reastart x and login as a user?
[12:54] <timshel> rofl, kk. you should be able to log in now
[12:55] <W_McL> Fenix: had much trouble with them too
[12:55] <timshel> yeah
[12:55] <mwe> spuddogg: don't worry. I guess something went wrong in the process though I have no idea what. I just know wine doesn't play nice with 64 bit at least to my knowledge
[12:55] <printk> Fenix: i might have come in late during this conversaion, but do you have modules dri enabled in xorg.conf (assuming this is xorg)
[12:55] <timshel> johnny: you wouldn't happen to know anything about samba would you D:?
[12:55] <noway-> sethk: should I be running grub-install on the non-chrooted drive?
[12:55] <Fenix> printk: dri is disabled in xorg.conf
[12:55] <spuddogg> mwe, wonderful...i should have installed the regular 32bit
[12:55] <sethk> noway-, it shouldn't matter
[12:55] <spuddogg> mwe, 32 bit ubuntu that is
[12:55] <jmitchj> hey there...new to ubuntu...or linux for that matter...working off live cd....is there a way to access harddrive files from here?
[12:55] <printk> Fenix: well enable that then
[12:55] <Fenix> W_McL: i have also tried getting drivers over apt-get
[12:56] <spuddogg> jmitchj, places -> file system
[12:56] <mwe> spuddogg: or run it in a 32bit chroot
[12:56] <mwe> spuddogg: I'm not on 64bit but there is a wiki I think
[12:56] <jmitchj> not there
[12:56] <Arrick> is nickrud around anymore?
[12:56] <Fenix> printk: i read that Load "dri" should be disabled because that is open source version of acceleration and fglrx includes dri in it self
[12:56] <jmitchj> no file system under places
[12:56] <spuddogg> jmitchj, sorry.  Places -> Home Folder
[12:57] <printk> ohhhh then follow that sorry
[12:57] <printk> like i said i might have come in late during the conversation :)
[12:57] <W_McL> Fenix: which ones? the fglrx ones? they're the ati proprietary drivers. those you can get over the repositories are just usually a bit older than the newest
[12:57] <spuddogg> jmitchj, then File System is on the left
[12:57] <jmitchj> that seems to just list the files on the CD
[12:57] <spuddogg> jmitchj, you know, that might be true...sorry man, i dont know
[12:57] <CreativeEmbassy> hey there, anyone really good with video drivers? :-D
[12:57] <root_> Alright, lets see if it works.
[12:58] <tbaur> sup?
[12:58] <Fenix> W_McL: so what should i use then to get 3d acceleration?
[12:58] <jmitchj> ok thanks anyways
[12:58] <spuddogg> mwe, well sounds like a job for another day...thanks for the help man
[12:58] <nozorro> jmitchj: which partition you want to access 1st one? windows?
[12:58] <jmitchj> yes
[12:58] <timshel> anyone here play wc3?
[12:58] <nozorro> jmitchj: ok let's see, can you open terminal and type 'mount'
[12:59] <UKMatt> Hey is there a Xvid Codec for linux?
[12:59] <j`ey> for some reason, my network connections disloag doesnt have a new connection button?
[12:59] <CreativeEmbassy> should I just ask?
[12:59] <W_McL> Fenix: the proprietary drivers give the best 3d-accelleration, if they work. it's just difficult to get them working, if you got the wrong card :(
[12:59] <jmitchj> LOL...terminal where?...i am brand new to this
[12:59] <iLikeSpoons> ok, this might be a stupid question, but I've never played with hardware before. I just got a different videocard (geforce mx400, an old one). What do I need to change before I plug it in instead of my old radeon 7000? Or can I just plug it in and expect it to work? :P
[12:59] <nozorro> jmitchj: first disk should be listed as /dev/hda1 if mounted
[12:59] <CreativeEmbassy> i have a fresh install, just installed nvidia drivers, and they don't want to talk to my laptop lcd
[01:00] <nozorro> jmitchj: Alt+F2, enter 'gnome-terminal'
[01:00] <jmitchj> it says i don;t have permission when i go at it from the disk manager
[01:00] <lupine_85> iLikeSpoons: switch back to the vesa driver before you modify your hardware. Once it's changed, install the nvidia drivers
[01:00] <lupine_85> !nvidia
[01:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:01] <iLikeSpoons> lupine,\ thanks
[01:01] <root_> Nice try guys, but that failed horribly.
[01:01] <jmitchj> ok..in termnal
[01:01] <Fenix> W_McL: my card is pretty old (radeon 8500) so i guess it should have good support by now. problem is that i have tried everything. i even downloaded new kernel and compiled it. i read all howtos, forums i could find.
[01:01] <nozorro> jmitchj: type 'mount'
[01:01] <W_McL> Fenix: i can just recommend to try different HowTos and different versions of the driver, and keep using the version that works
[01:01] <root_> I remember doing this before on a previous install, and the only way to fix it is with a modeline.
[01:01] <jmitchj> ok
[01:01] <jmitchj> done
[01:02] <nozorro> jmitchj: is /dev/hda1 listed anywhere?
[01:02] <W_McL> Fenix: the problem seems to be that the latest drivers have some troubles with older cards
[01:02] <jmitchj> yes
[01:02] <CreativeEmbassy> I installed the nvidia drivers right, and I know this because I plugged a CRT into the back of my computer, and it's able to display to it fine.
[01:02] <CreativeEmbassy> But my laptop LCD just shows... crap.
[01:02] <Fenix> W_McL: where could i find older versions for download?
[01:03] <nozorro> jmitchj: /dev/hda1 on ... ??? fill in rest of line, please
[01:03] <root_> Is the Xorg log called literally that? I can obtain my pixel clock from that and generate a modeline however I do not know that logs literal filename.
[01:03] <W_McL> i'm not sure, but i think on the ati driver download page there is a possibility to download older versions
[01:03] <jmitchj> /tmp/disks-conf-hdal type ntfs (rw)
[01:04] <W_McL> Fenix: at least i can remember to have downloaded different versions of the drivers there
[01:04] <CreativeEmbassy> What should I do if the nvidia driver just shows crap on my lcd, but works on my crt?
[01:04] <nozorro> jmitchj: then open file manager window and go to directory /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[01:04] <CreativeEmbassy> Where am I going wrong? Getting tired of reading instructions and FAQs here... :-(?
[01:05] <LetterRip> hi I need to upload some contributed translations to be merged with the ubuntu translations
[01:05] <j`ey> how do I connect using wireless?
[01:05] <kaymann> Hi, how do I enable an external monitor? I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 on my Toshiba laptop with an Intel GMA 950.
[01:05] <LetterRip> is there a ubuntu china channel?
[01:05] <Fenix> W_McL: ok thx i'll try it. btw could you tell me what card you have and what driver version?
[01:06] <jmitchj> i get "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".
[01:06] <W_McL> Fenix: i got the mobility radeon 9000 and it works out of the box with fglrx version 8.28.8 (the latest version), but i got troubles with at least the 4 previous versions
[01:07] <nozorro> jmitchj: maybe 'sudo nautilus' from the terminal will fix this -- but i don't know the password for the live CD --maybe 'ubuntu' (???)
[01:07] <TylerDurdener> hey
[01:07] <iLikeSpoons> lupine_85, I only need to change the driver line in Xorg.conf, right?
[01:07] <TylerDurdener> whats the default su password? and how can i change it?
[01:07] <Fenix> W_McL: ok, i'll try to find oldest version there is
[01:07] <kingdong> TylerDurdener, enabling root user is not recommended
[01:07] <CreativeEmbassy> ilikespoons: yup.
[01:08] <jmitchj> that's over my head...is that a command to type in?
[01:08] <TylerDurdener> i know.. i need it though
[01:08] <iLikeSpoons> yay. Hopefully, after this restart, I'll have no more nasty xorg crashes due to sucky radeon 7000 problems
[01:08] <W_McL> Fenix: on the driver download page there is a menu on the left where you can select "older drivers". you musz just find the linux entry
[01:08] <nozorro> jmitchj: yes, type 'sudo nautilus' in terminal pls and report back pls
[01:08] <kingdong> TylerDurdener, sudo passwd root
[01:08] <mwe> TylerDurdener: there is no default pw
[01:09] <TylerDurdener> when i type su it asks for a passowrd
[01:09] <kingdong> there is no password
[01:09] <kingdong> type sudo passwd root to set one
[01:09] <TylerDurdener> how can i set one?
[01:09] <TylerDurdener> ok thanks
[01:09] <mwe> TylerDurdener: you don't need it though
[01:09] <Megaqwerty> has anyone gotten this error when trying to run compiz? "Couldn't load plugin 'gconf'" if so, have any of you solved it?
[01:09] <RedRose> Something like my laptops monitor brightness, that's something controled by ACPI, right?
[01:10] <mwe> TylerDurdener: sudo -i has the same effect
[01:10] <Megaqwerty> (using the command "thefuture")
[01:10] <nozorro> nozorro: which is the default password on the live CD for sudo? anyone?
[01:10] <kaymann> Do I hvae to restart to enable an external monitor?
[01:10] <eugman> The output from deborphan is two columns. Is there some terminal magic to get rid of the first column from the file I ouputed it too and to also remove and excess whitespace or returns?
[01:10] <W_McL> Fenix: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBList.asp?folderID=617
[01:10] <kingdong> there is no default sudo password...
[01:10] <sethk> eugman, you can remove leading white space, or the first column, with sed
[01:10] <jmitchj> thanks that alowed me in...is that something that must be done each time?
[01:11] <eugman> I'll do some man page diving. Thanks.
[01:11] <Fenix> W_McL: thnx alot
[01:11] <nozorro> jmitchj: not on the installed system
[01:11] <CreativeEmbassy> Again, cna anyone help with nvidia driver issues?
[01:11] <jmitchj> ok...right
[01:11] <jmitchj> that makes sense
[01:11] <CreativeEmbassy> Followed as many FAQ's as I could find...
[01:11] <W_McL> Fenix: no prob. i hope it will work
[01:11] <Megaqwerty> has anyone gotten this error when trying to run compiz? "Couldn't load plugin 'gconf'" if so, have any of you solved it?
[01:11] <jmitchj> does ubuntu have an mp3 player?
[01:11] <nozorro> jmitchj: you'll only have read (no write) access to ntfs partitions atm
[01:12] <nozorro> jmitchj: mp3, yes, many
[01:12] <charles_> Thank you guys, you did help me... I just needed to reboot.
[01:12] <mwe> CreativeEmbassy: including !nvidia ?
[01:12] <charles_> Is there a way to Anti Alias screen fonts in Ubuntu?
[01:12] <TylerDurdener> what is the command to tell the terminal to go to my desktop?
[01:12] <RedRose> Something like my laptops monitor brightness, that's something controled by ACPI, right?
[01:12] <noway-> sethk: thanks for the help... I am sure I will figure something out
[01:12] <CreativeEmbassy> mwe: which one are you referring to?
[01:12] <Megaqwerty> TylerDurdener: cd Desktop
[01:13] <TylerDurdener> thanks
[01:13] <Megaqwerty> you're welcome
[01:13] <FlyingSquirrel32> I've got edubuntu here at home, but when I upgraded to 6.10 my DHCP and ltsp isn't running. Any ideas?
[01:13] <CreativeEmbassy> I'm running in circles on ubuntu's sites, and the forums
[01:13] <W_McL> charles_: in the menu system -> preferences -> fonts (not sure about the names, because i'm not using the english version)
[01:13] <nozorro> charles_: see System > Preferences > Font
[01:13] <mwe> CreativeEmbassy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:14] <charles_> Best Contrast?
[01:14] <magnet> MWHAHAHA... it took more than 3 hours but I devised a "new"(? or unreferenced at least) way to install Ubuntu with floppies and network only ;)
[01:14] <magnet> and it works! :P
[01:14] <CreativeEmbassy> lemme check
[01:14] <FlyingSquirrel32> magnet: I'd be intrested in getting a copy!
[01:14] <nozorro> charles_: 'Monochrome' is w/o antialiasing, the 3 others are differente aa modes
[01:14] <charles_> It doesn't actually say anywhere in there the words anti alias.
[01:14] <magnet> maybe i'll make a tuto
[01:14] <charles_> Alright.
[01:14] <Megaqwerty> has anyone gotten this error when trying to run compiz? "Couldn't load plugin 'gconf'" if so, have any of you solved it?
[01:14] <mwe> magnet: write a wiki if you have the time :)
[01:15] <magnet> It's *not* using debootstrap
[01:15] <charles_> That's what I thought as well.
[01:15] <magnet> I have xubuntu running perfectly, latest kernel, everything working
[01:15] <magnet> on a 4-5 years old laptop (no cd drive)
[01:15] <CreativeEmbassy> mwe: followed these already...
[01:16] <itrebal> s/buffer close
[01:16] <magnet> it rooooooocks :) /me happy :P
[01:16] <mwe> CreativeEmbassy: oh. I just thought I'd mention it in case you hadn't seen it. I don't have nvidia myself so I cant be of much help I'm afraid
[01:16] <z3r0x> does anybody know a cpu benchmark tool?
[01:16] <CreativeEmbassy> i'm wondering if it's actually a driver issue, because when I plugged my CRT into the back of my laptop, i have no problem running stuff for nvidia
[01:16] <jmitchj> nozorro, is there an mp3 player on the Live CD?
[01:16] <magnet> z3r0x: we usually benchmark usages and not cpus
[01:17] <magnet> cpus are strong for some things and weak for others
[01:17] <CreativeEmbassy> like glxgears, for instance
[01:17] <Megaqwerty> has anyone gotten this error when trying to run compiz? "Couldn't load plugin 'gconf'" if so, have any of you solved it?
[01:17] <CreativeEmbassy> runs fine
[01:17] <CreativeEmbassy> and it SOUNDS like it's opening xwindows fine
[01:17] <z3r0x> magnet, which tool can I use to benchmark usages?
[01:18] <mwe> magnet: I installed on a laptop without CD or floppy ;)
[01:18] <nozorro> jmitchj: don't think so, because mp3 software cannot be free software. there is a sound player though which will support mp3 after install with some minor tweaks -- and many others
[01:18] <CreativeEmbassy> but wbhen I have a crt plugged in, the lcd is just black and the nvidia settings only show the crt
[01:18] <eyequeue> Megaqwerty, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[01:18] <magnet> z3r0x: depends on what you want to do
[01:18] <CreativeEmbassy> when it's not plugged in, I just get garbage on the lcd
[01:18] <Neo8750> i updated to edgy and now x won't load on boot instead it errors out but the errors aren't fatal
[01:18] <magnet> mwe: yep I just say that I did it a *new* way :) or not said to work way
[01:18] <magnet> if you prefer
[01:18] <jmitchj> i guess nothing is really straight forward in Linux huh?
[01:19] <magnet> not using debootstrap like advertised
[01:19] <magnet> (on the ubuntu wiki)
[01:19] <z3r0x> magnet, I want to test my whole system
[01:19] <mjr> jmitchj, nothing is really straightforward with proprietary formats, you mean
[01:19] <nozorro> jmitchj: mp3 is not included by default because of stoopid patents
[01:19] <riko> hi! I was wondering what i need to dl to get ndiswrapper working on a clean ubuntu install... i can't connect ubuntu to the web w/out the wifi
[01:19] <mwe> magnet: I did it two times. once using pxe boot. the other time with a usb stick. write a wiki if you have the time 
[01:19] <CreativeEmbassy> i justn wish I didn't have to go through command line to do all this stuff
[01:20] <CreativeEmbassy> not the besst typer in the world
[01:20] <z3r0x> ^^
[01:20] <eyequeue> CreativeEmbassy, tab completion
[01:20] <magnet> mwe: yeah my laptop has pxe/netbooting but I was too lazy to set up a server, and it doesnt support booting from USB
[01:20] <riko> does anyone know which packages i need to dl from windoze to get ndiswrapper running on a clean ubuntu install?
[01:20] <magnet> I did it ONLY with floppies and ethernet so ;)
[01:20] <CreativeEmbassy> eyequeue: i know about it, but when I don't even know what I'm supposed to be typing in the first place...
[01:21] <magnet> and without debootstrap :)
[01:21] <z3r0x> riko, what card do you use?
[01:21] <mwe> magnet: cool
[01:21] <riko> z3r0x
[01:21] <riko> z3r0x: 1390
[01:21] <CreativeEmbassy> anyway, I'm about ready to ditch ubuntu and go windows for another year
[01:21] <magnet> mwe: that's not extraordinary though, I'm just happy I didn't spend these 3hours for nothing :)
[01:21] <CreativeEmbassy> i can't understand why my graphics card isn't working :-(
[01:21] <z3r0x> riko, 1390 of what?
[01:21] <mwe> magnet: I think it took about ten minutes to set up the pxe server on a windows machine though
[01:21] <magnet> it's a PIII 500 and Xfce runs fast so that's great
[01:22] <riko> z3r0x: I know the windows driver i need to download, im just wondering which packages i need to download to install ndiswrapper. Dell 1390
[01:22] <magnet> mwe: I haven't had any windows machine for years
[01:22] <riko> z3r0x: i only have wifi connection here nothing wired so i can only dl thru windows
[01:22] <magnet> and I don't know about a pxe server under GNU/linux
[01:22] <mwe> magnet: lucky you don't have to use that crap ;)
[01:22] <magnet> yep
[01:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> riko: I guess you have centrino?
[01:23] <CreativeEmbassy> anyone else here have experience with... lcd monitors?
[01:23] <riko> FlyingSquirrel32: yea
[01:23] <trygg> Why does my ubuntu drain my hddspace? I have very little and it takes 1mb at a 5 second period, even if i have no program on?
[01:24] <FlyingSquirrel32> riko: a cheap wireless card isn't too exzpensive
[01:24] <riko> FlyingSquirrel32: i have experience getting it working once i have ndiswrapper installed, but i need to install ndiswrapper first
[01:24] <eyequeue> FlyingSquirrel32, i d/l with centrino all the time
[01:24] <z3r0x> riko, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[01:24] <sethk> FlyingSquirrel32, an expensive wireless card is more expensive than a cheap wireless card
[01:24] <mwe> magnet: it's always a victory when you spend some time doing something undocumented in linux and succeed ;)
[01:24] <eyequeue> riko, no need for ndiswrapper with centrino here, ipw2200
[01:24] <riko> eyequeue: so how do i do it?
[01:25] <mcphail> trygg: check the size of the logfiles under /var/log/ to see if they are growing out of hand
[01:25] <FlyingSquirrel32> eyequeue: Really!  And I thought it couldn't be done!
[01:25] <eyequeue> riko, it was utosensed here, but modprobe ipw2200
[01:25] <Arrick> !vpn
[01:25] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[01:25] <eyequeue> FlyingSquirrel32, autosensed here, both in breezy and dapper (and edgy)
[01:26] <magnet> mwe: yep :) but the it's even better because the disk is painfully slow and the 3 hours were mostly downloading packages
[01:26] <riko> eyequeue: which model card do u have tho?
[01:26] <Arrick> where are all the old timers mwe?
[01:26] <trygg> mcphail: nope, 9 mb.
[01:26] <eyequeue> riko, it's not a cad, it's part of the laptop
[01:26] <trygg> It just keeps going,
[01:26] <riko> eyequeue: oooh, i have a dell 640m core duo w/ a 1390 wifi card
[01:26] <magnet> and I thought it wouldn't work and I'd have to reinstall it anyway
[01:26] <magnet> and it was a pain only to think of it ;)
[01:27] <eyequeue> riko, try ipw2200 though, but google for that model number and ubuntu
[01:27] <riko> okay so since i can't do this: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper... how would i find out which files i need and manually download them for a local install as i can't get on the internet with this
[01:27] <mwe> magnet: heh
[01:27] <riko> ugh all i want to know is how do i manually download the files for ndiswrapper cos i can't go online in linux
[01:28] <eyequeue> !depends ndiswrapper
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depends ndiswrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <z3r0x> riko, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482
[01:29] <riko> do i need any other packages?
[01:29] <ciscosurfer> !ndiswrapper
[01:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:29] <eyequeue> $ apt-cache depends ndiswrapper
[01:29] <eyequeue> W: Unable to locate package ndiswrapper
[01:29] <z3r0x> only the .inf file (wlan card driver)
[01:29] <z3r0x> riko, just a second
[01:30] <mwe> Arrick: most of them are probably too busy or lazy to answer questions in here ;)
[01:30] <djm62> Ok, I want to be able to switch to Russsian keyboard layout and type in Russian by pressing some preferably one-handed key combo
[01:30] <z3r0x> riko, output of apt-file search ndiswrapper -> ndiswrapper-utils: usr/sbin/ndiswrapper
[01:30] <z3r0x> riko, I think you can just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[01:31] <djm62> I think I've done the right thing in System->Preferences, but it does nothing.  I can switch layouts with the gnome applet, but not any keyboard combo I have specified
[01:31] <nozorro> djm62: under the Layout Options tab in the Keyboard config app?
[01:32] <Arrick> mwe, I dont even see them in here, _jason, nickrud, idleone, none of them are in here now, did they go away?
[01:32] <Daniel_GBG> does anyone know how to create a vpn tunnel in ubuntu
[01:32] <mwe> djm62: if you know the command you can use xbindkeys I think
[01:32] <riko> z3r0x: yea i'd totally do that if I was able to go online in linux... but since i have to manually dl from windows which files would i get?
[01:32] <z3r0x> riko, install the package and then the driver ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf... after load the ndiswrapper module modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:32] <CreativeEmbassy> is anyone available to help me figure out a conflict between my monitor and my nvidia driver?
[01:32] <riko> yea yea that part i get... alright i'll give it a shot... i'll be back soon if it doesn't work
[01:32] <Daniel_GBG> Help with VPN tunnel?
[01:32] <mwe> Arrick: I don't know. I saw nickrud not too long ago
[01:33] <Daniel_GBG> anyone?
[01:33] <djm62> nozorro: yeah, in that section
[01:33] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: what's the issue?
[01:33] <PavelS> Is there anybody who know something about suspend to ram, please? I am trying to set it on my laptop almost three days without progress.
[01:33] <djm62> (I am starting to think this may be something to do with my acer travelmate 2420 laptop keyboard)
[01:33] <z3r0x> riko http://packages.debian.org/testing/misc/ndiswrapper-utils
[01:33] <link_36p> Im having problems with getting an xgl server to start with an ati card
[01:34] <nozorro> djm62: i think you have to specify a key combo for that under Groups Shift/Lock behavior
[01:34] <z3r0x> download it and then install with dpkg -i xyz.deb
[01:34] <djm62> nozorro: yes, that's where I specified it
[01:34] <charles_> Guys what is a media player that supports shoutcast streams?
[01:34] <djm62> nozorro: I've tried a few variants
[01:34] <nozorro> djm62: hmm, it works for me to switch between German and Spanish ...
[01:35] <Arrick> ok thanks mwe have a good one.
[01:35] <ciscosurfer> riko: use 'packages.ubuntu.com' instead
[01:35] <CreativeEmbassy> ciscosurfer: I installed the nvidia drivers exactly per the instructions.
[01:35] <z3r0x> ciscosurfer, he's already gone ^^
[01:35] <ciscosurfer> z3r0x: whoops
[01:35] <nozorro> djm62: i use ' Both Alt keys together change group.
[01:35] <mwe> Arrick: see you dude
[01:35] <CreativeEmbassy> and my lcd screen would just show garbage.
[01:36] <djm62> nozorro: I'm starting to think it's to do with a particular laptop keyboard
[01:36] <CreativeEmbassy> so, I didn't think I installed them right
[01:36] <z3r0x> ciscosurfer, well I didn't notice too :)
[01:36] <nozorro> djm62: oh yeah, if you're on a laptop ....
[01:36] <rapha> Hi all
[01:36] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: do you have a legacy card or a newer card?  which did you install: the legacy package or the glx package?
[01:36] <djm62> !
[01:36] <Trephine> Hi rage
[01:36] <CreativeEmbassy> but I plugged a spare CRT monitor lying around, and they appear to be working fine on this.
[01:36] <Trephine> rapha
[01:37] <Sanne> hi
[01:37] <CreativeEmbassy> I have a nvidia fx go5600
[01:37] <rapha> I've got a brand-new notebook. Is it normal for totem-gstreamer to only play a DVD at perhaps 10-15 FPS? I thought GStreamer is supposed to be as good as Xine nowadays?
[01:37] <djm62> nozorro: bizarrely, two alt keys works!
[01:37] <CreativeEmbassy> and I can get glxgears to work now :-p
[01:37] <nozorro> djm62: so i was lucky! -- but anyway you can change using the Keyboard Indicator?
[01:37] <djm62> nozorro: yeah
[01:37] <charles_> There is no media player capable of doing receiving shoutcast streams y/n?
[01:37] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: you might've installed the wrong package....try installing the other package and see how that goes (remove the other one first)
[01:38] <nozorro> djm62: fine, tovarish
[01:38] <CreativeEmbassy> i could give that a shot, how do I remove the old one?
[01:38] <Ma|el> charles_ vlc
[01:38] <astronut> Hi...what's the proper driver for 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems XGI Volari XP5 (rev 02)
[01:39] <bedazzled_> hi, anyone using rtorrent ? how can i "remove" a torrent from the list?
[01:39] <charles_> Thanks Ma.
[01:40] <CreativeEmbassy> are there directions somewhere to uninstalling a video driver?
[01:40] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: to see which one you have installed you can go to your /var/cache/apt/archives direcory and search for the file you installed (probably called nvidia-legacy) and then remove it with 'sudo aptitude remove nvidia-legacy)...sorry, i'm not at my linux box right now otherwise i'd give you a better answer
[01:40] <CreativeEmbassy> or would it be better to jsut reinstall everything again?
[01:40] <CreativeEmbassy> reading...
[01:40] <astronut> CreativeEmbassy: dpkg -l will give you a list
[01:41] <eyequeue> astronut, dpkg --get-selections
[01:41] <charles_> Malal can it handle streams?
[01:41] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: you can also try 'sudo dpkg -s name_of_file to see if it's installed...you can try 'up-arrow'ing' to see the exact command you issued and then remove it with that name
[01:41] <eyequeue> CreativeEmbassy,  dpkg --get-selections > filename
[01:41] <ciscosurfer> astronut: thanks, forgot that one
[01:41] <ciscosurfer> eyequeue: thanks, forgot that one too
[01:41] <gavagai> !mp3
[01:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:42] <silent_scream> hi everyone!
[01:42] <rapha> GRAAAH even with totem-xine I have to rm -rf ~/.dvdcss every 15 minutes and restart the DVD
[01:42] <CreativeEmbassy> i'm just gonna do a fresh install
[01:43] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: there's no reason to do that
[01:43] <CreativeEmbassy> why not, and it'll give me a chance to try easyubuntu... or that other one, what's its name
[01:43] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: but if you must...
[01:43] <magnet> automatix
[01:43] <CreativeEmbassy> yeah
[01:43] <astronut> Hi...what's the proper driver for 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems XGI Volari XP5 (rev 02)
[01:43] <CreativeEmbassy> but I jsut don't know enough about ubuntu, and reinstalling everything would probably take less time :-p
[01:44] <Harksaw> ok, one program crashed and my mouse is now locked up. How do I reset my mouse so I can move it again? (Took me forever to get over to xchat!)
[01:44] <silent_scream> is there any programm similar to "rapget"? A download manager that is compatible with rapidshare megaupload etc..???
[01:44] <rapha> What IS it with this DVD - it has NO scratches and NO NOTHING
[01:45] <rapha> Anybody ever watch Master & Commander under Ubuntu?
[01:45] <sethk> rapha, maybe it's blank  :)
[01:45] <iLikeSpoons> hm
[01:45] <iLikeSpoons> so, I installed the binary drivers
[01:45] <TSP_X> Hi people!
[01:45] <iLikeSpoons> ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:45] <rapha> sethk: I'm watching it. Only got to restart every couple minutes and seek back to where I was
[01:45] <iLikeSpoons> restarted the X server
[01:45] <TSP_X> I have a problem compiling Qt 4 :(
[01:45] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: ok...
[01:45] <iLikeSpoons> but no nvidia splash screen and I'm still stuck with vesa drivers
[01:45] <ciscosurfer> CreativeEmbassy: I'd use Automatix over EasyUbuntu
[01:46] <silent_scream> iLikeSpoons, there is nice guide in ubuntuforums
[01:46] <TSP_X> enby is other way to install nvidia drivers
[01:46] <TSP_X> envy*
[01:46] <cafuego> TSP_X: No, it is not.
[01:46] <iLikeSpoons> silent, thanks. I'll do a search
[01:46] <nozorro> astronut: it should be xserver-xorg-driver-trident. found in google, look at last line: http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/iii/?s=1:i=1023
[01:46] <cafuego> TSP_X: The nvidia drivers are prepackaged.
[01:46] <sethk> rapha, I wasn't being serious.
[01:46] <silent_scream> wait iLikeSpoons  i find it
[01:46] <rapha> k
[01:47] <FusionXN1> BBL everyone.
[01:47] <TSP_X> i install nvidia drivers one time with that script
[01:47] <astronut> nozorro: i tried trident, it said EE no devices found
[01:47] <astronut> unless it wasn't installed
[01:47] <astronut> no, it's installed
[01:47] <cafuego> TSP_X: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-mnodules-$(uname -r)'
[01:47] <TSP_X> yes i know,,that is nor my problem...i have problem compiling Qt 4
[01:47] <alex_> Im having trouble installing the video support in easyubuntu. its telling me there are broken packages, but i dont seem to have broken packages
[01:48] <nozorro> astronut: look under /usr/share/doc for the doc for the driver, maybe you can specify the bus ID of the PCI device
[01:48] <cafuego> You don't NEED to compile Qt4.
[01:48] <TSP_X> where i can get it?
[01:48] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know of any avi to dvd software thats nice and simple to use?
[01:49] <astronut> nozorro: i did specify the bus, it's just not supported apparently
[01:49] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: ffmpeg ?
[01:49] <Zambezi> Backspace doesn't work in screen. Is it just for me or is it a bug?
[01:49] <TSP_X> i want to compile qbittorrent and i need many to have many qt libs
[01:49] <vicky_> hello
[01:49] <zebedee> hi
 can i do apt-get for it
[01:49] <TSP_X> yes Paddy
[01:49] <vicky_> i am totally new to ubuntu and very lost, anyone want to help an idiot?
[01:49] <Harksaw> anyone know what process controls the mouse?
[01:49] <RedRose> I want to mod my laptop brightness via /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness... how do I, it says I can't write it
[01:50] <cafuego> TSP_X: You need Qt headers and development files then, you do _not_ need to compile Qt4.
 nice one
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> vicky_: Sure, I'm blind, I'll lead you..
[01:50] <TSP_X> the problems is that the half are not in the repos
[01:50] <cafuego> TSP_X: They are.
[01:50] <LRushing> redrose: sudo ??
[01:50] <RedRose> won't let me
[01:50] <silent_scream> iLikeSpoons, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy there you are
[01:51] <RedRose> LRushing, as root or sudo
[01:51] <vicky_> Jack_Sparrow: oo you came up yellow
[01:51] <nozorro> astronut: yeah, i remember having problems with a trident card .
[01:51] <TSP_X> libqt. headers?
[01:51] <CyberMad> how do i migrate my email box from windows to ubuntu?
[01:51] <iLikeSpoons> thanks, silent_scream.
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> vicky_: How may we help you
[01:51] <Mortice> !libqt4-devel
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt4-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <azathoth> hmmm... my sound has a slight delay in games... anyone know why? how can i install different engines?
[01:51] <TSP_X> i need qt 4 not 3
[01:51] <silent_scream> iLikeSpoons, for dapper :http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139264
[01:51] <Mortice> how do i make it show package details?
[01:52] <silent_scream> np
[01:52] <eyequeue> Mortice, vvv
[01:52] <vicky_> Jack_Sparrow: im trying to install skype
 do u know anywhere that can give me a pre-prepared Debian sarge minimal install image that i can start from 256mb flash disk
[01:52] <joshritger> what do i need to get amarok t play mp3's
[01:52] <eyequeue> !info libqt40dev
[01:52] <ubotu> Package libqt40dev does not exist in any distro I know
[01:52] <maple1> how do I get ubuntu to run on the 0.01 version of the linux kernel?
[01:52] <eyequeue> !info libqt4-dev
[01:52] <ubotu> libqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3478 kB, installed size 17228 kB
[01:52] <CyberMad> if i use thunderbird in windows, does thunderbird in ubuntu can restore my email?
[01:52] <vicky_> Jack_Sparrow: but i dont understand the instructions
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: no
[01:52] <cafuego> vicky_: Download the skype beta 1.3 .deb and install it.
[01:52] <Mortice> that's it, eyequeue, thanks.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[01:52] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:52] <eyequeue> Mortice, no prob
[01:52] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs, been goggling all day
[01:53] <Paddy_EIRE> *google
[01:53] <silent_scream> is there any program similar to "rapget"? A download manager that is compatible with rapidshare megaupload etc..???
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> vicky_: Those instructions?
[01:53] <Mortice> TSP_X: make sure the universe repository is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list and get libqt4-dev
[01:53] <TSP_X> well that's the reason why i am trying to comile Qt 4
[01:53] <Mortice> then you'll be able to build QT4 apps
[01:53] <Mortice> and you won't have to compile Qt 4
[01:53] <cafuego> If you compile and install Qt4 by hand, you will _destroy_ your system.
[01:54] <vicky_> i got lost at the words : Add the skype repository
[01:54] <TSP_X> I have libqt4 installed
[01:54] <joshritger> what codecs or files do i need to install to get mp3 play back with amarok on ubuntu
[01:54] <cafuego> So rwally, don't.
[01:54] <swizzle> how do you find which packages are broken in synaptic... i use the filter but that doesn't seem to do anything.
[01:54] <stev> lev livet til den dag du dr tag det aldrig roligt folk vil tro du er svag hvis du slapper af sl p alle
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > joshritger
[01:54] <Mortice> TSP_X: you want libqt4-devel
[01:54] <Mortice> TSP_X: there's a difference.
[01:54] <magnet> sorry Paddy i was busy
[01:54] <magnet> is it ok?
[01:54] <cafuego> vicky_: You don't need a skype repository. Go to skype.com and download the beta version for Linux, deb format. Save it somewhere (on the desktop?)
im still trying to get that theme of yours to work although reluctant to format at this stage and start all over again
[01:55] <vicky_> yes i did that cafuego but then there is no exe file to click so i got lost
[01:55] <TSP_X> i can find that one Mortice
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np  we know you have some problems with that system
[01:55] <Mortice> TSP_X: install it then :P
[01:55] <cafuego> vicky_: Cool. Now open a terminal and cd to Desktop.
[01:55] <cafuego> vicky_: Now install the package using 'sudo dpkg -i skype....deb'
[01:55] <vicky_> how do i cd cafuego
[01:55] <cafuego> vicky_: 'cd Desktop'
[01:56] <vicky_> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[01:56] <TSP_X> i search in ubuntu packages. and libqt4-devel don't exist
[01:56] <cafuego> Capital D.
[01:56] <vicky_> oo ok
[01:56] <Mortice> TSP_X: is the universe repository enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:56] <TSP_X> yes
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> vicky_: Did you add that repo to your sources?
[01:57] <cafuego> vicky_: Now that dpkg command may spit out errors about missing packages. That's ok. If it does, run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[01:57] <Mortice> TSP_X: does libqt4-devel show up when you do apt-cache search qt4?
[01:57] <RedRose> I want to mod my laptop brightness via /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness... how do I, it says I can't write it. I get write error: Invalid argument When I try
[01:58] <TSP_X> nop only dev but not devel
[01:58] <vicky_> ok sorry im lost ( i apologise for being totally useless
[01:58] <hondje> dev == devel
[01:58] <Mortice> TSP_X: oh, sorry. I read it as devel
[01:58] <TSP_X> i can't dind it here http://packages.ubuntulinux.org
[01:58] <TSP_X> is ok
[01:58] <swinchen> How do I make it so that the default OS is Windows and not Linux?
[01:58] <iLikeSpoons> well, here goes nothing
[01:58] <Mortice> TSP_X: libqt4-dev is what you want. do sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev
[01:58] <cafuego> vicky_: In the terminal (after cd-ing to Desktop), type 'sudo dpkg -i skype....deb'
[01:58] <CyberMad> what the difference between dev and devel?  is that development ?
[01:58] <Mortice> TSP_X: and then you'll be able to compile this program which requires Qt 4
[01:59] <cafuego> vicky_: That will attempt to install the package you downloaded.
[01:59] <TSP_X> many should i have to set the path when i try to compile qbittorrent?
[01:59] <hondje> CyberMad: No difference, just preference by package maintainers
[01:59] <TSP_X> i have that one installed,,maybe is other thing...
[01:59] <Mortice> CyberMad: I maintain SuSE servers at work, and the naming scheme for development packages in SuSE is -devel
[01:59] <silent_scream> is there any program similar to "rapget"? A download manager that is compatible with rapidshare megaupload etc..???
[01:59] <Mortice> CyberMad: so I forgot that it was -dev in ubuntu :)
[01:59] <joshritger> I installed the gstreamer stuff off of the ubuntu help page about restricted formats and I still can't get mp3's to play with amarok
[02:00] <orbin> swinchen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-f8e698ed34d10de06cee1c82e6ebaf774a6aa324
[02:00] <vicky_> dpkg: error processing skype....deb (--install):
[02:00] <vicky_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:00] <vicky_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:00] <vicky_>  skype....deb
[02:00] <CyberMad> thanks :)
[02:00] <z3r0x> gn8 guys
[02:00] <swinchen> orbin, thank you.
[02:00] <magnet> Mortice: don't forget that DDs are lazy bitches (especially on the keyboard) ;)
[02:00] <Mortice> magnet: heh. :)
[02:00] <sorush20> I;'m runing kubuntu how do only install the gnome session and gnome desktop since I'm used to kde but want to slowly also learn my way around gnome etc.. what package?
[02:00] <sorush20> !gnome
[02:00] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:00] <cafuego> vicky_: Where I say skype...deb, I mean the actual file that you downloaded. If you type skype and then hit tab, it should complete the filename for you.
[02:00] <sorush20> !pak gnome
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pak gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> vicky_: You have to type the real name of the skype deb
[02:00] <magnet> sorush20: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <magnet> (and sudo it)
[02:01] <nozorro> !fixres
[02:01] <vxd_> hi
[02:01] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:01] <qid> my laptop has an intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG wireless chipset, anyone know what I should enter for "driver" under the Use WPA tab in wifi-radar?
[02:02] <Paddy_EIRE> i have downloaded and installed ffmpeg although i am very unsure of alot of cli stuff so can someone give me the basic usage to convert an avi to dvd with it
[02:02] <vxd_> I have a question about Rythmbox, someone can help me ?
[02:03] <vicky_> ok ill start again, i think i messed up stuff on the desktop, pls dont go away Jack_Sparrow and cafuego
[02:03] <sorush20> how comes sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntu-desktop does not install the dependency that is needed for it?
[02:03] <NsOmNiAc> the default install wont' let me handle over 1024x768 how can I get a higher resolution than that
[02:03] <NsOmNiAc> on Dapper Drake
[02:03] <sorush20> this is the dependency that is needed foomatic-db-hpijs
[02:04] <swizzle> can you re-install the 6.01 version of ubuntu with out losing all your memory
[02:04] <silent_scream> how can i add some fonts in xine?
[02:04] <slyboots> Hi
[02:05] <hondje> swizzle: make /home it's own partition
[02:05] <slyboots> I've been battering on the Ubuntu installer for.. 2 days
[02:05] <slyboots> Its.. shit
[02:05] <rapha> Aye, it's shit!
[02:05] <swizzle> yeah but the reason i need to reinstall is because the new version of ubuntu i downloaded is all messed up
[02:05] <rapha> I want the old one back, too.
[02:05] <slyboots> First of all, it refuses to install Grub, and thinkgs my drive is formated in some freaky Filesystem I've never heard of
[02:05] <slyboots> So, when I setup all the partitioning by hand in fdsik
[02:05] <rapha> Get the alternative CD
[02:05] <slyboots> And it autodetects the configurion and sets up the mountpoint
[02:06] <slyboots> "ERROR! No root file system"
[02:06] <Sanne> sorush20: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that depends on all the real desktop packages. It should have very few build-deps.
[02:06] <slyboots> Despite the fact in the previous step, it seleted /dev/sdb1 to be "/"
[02:06] <swizzle> it keeps saying "gnome-cups-manager; python-netcdf" can be fixed or something
[02:07] <slyboots> Download another huge ISO and waste yet another CD?
[02:07] <emilosterholm> Anyone have this problem: Have to unplug the power cord for 20 seconds on dual-boot winXP & 6.06 AMD64 install? If I don't my nic doesn't seem to work properly.
[02:07] <printk> slyboots: that or keep complaining in irc :)
[02:08] <slyboots> Well I dont know, I guessed that this being a support channel someone might have a suggetion on how to help that does not meanm Start again and hope for the best
[02:08] <ladydoor> hey, does anybody know anything about building ubuntu-repository source packages? i'm getting this error (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22677), which is not a dependency error or anything. anybody got anything?
[02:08] <iLikeSpoons> no workey. X server wouldn't start
[02:08] <vicky_> ooooo it did something :D
[02:08] <ladydoor> !patience > slyboots
[02:08] <nozorro> slyboots: which unknown file system does the install detect?
[02:08] <iLikeSpoons> saying it doesn't see any drivers named "nvidia"
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > ladydoor
[02:08] <slyboots> Um.. GTP.. something..
[02:09] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: not...what i meant. but thank you nonetheless
[02:09] <slyboots> I had to go into fdisk and delete it by hand
[02:09] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: i'm talking about a make error
[02:09] <vicky_> whoo it works :) thanks Jack_Sparrow and cafuego
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> ladydoor: Sorry.. misread
[02:09] <ladydoor> i should specify:  it's a make error
[02:09] <iLikeSpoons> I installed the latest restricted modules and the nvidia-glx package
[02:09] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: no worries
[02:09] <slyboots> I did notice something strange, the partitions show up fine in fdisk, but the graphical partition manager that ubunut uses during the install, Showed the entire drive as being unallocated space
[02:09] <cafuego> vicky_: cool :-)
[02:09] <nozorro> slyboots: looks like a problem with the disk controller's driver
[02:09] <slyboots> But the next step (Seleting mount-points) could see the partitions okay
[02:10] <slyboots> There is nothing wrong with the controller
[02:10] <CAPTAINJackSparr> Jack_Sparrow: Imposter! :] 
[02:10] <vicky_> cafuego: anything else i need to know about ubuntu, i only just installed it and really dont know anything
[02:10] <Mortice> slyboots: seems Gparted is buggy on the dapper installation CD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215648
[02:10] <cafuego> vicky_: Yup, no matter what the problem, there will be someone here who can help.
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> CAPTAINJackSparr: NOpe it is my registered nick
[02:10] <CAPTAINJackSparr> Jack_Sparrow: I
[02:10] <ladydoor> CAPTAINJackSparr: a) zie's been here a while. b) wouldn't a real pirate say impostarrrrrrrr?
[02:11] <CAPTAINJackSparr> Jack_Sparrow: I'm making fun of you
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> vicky_: Just come back with questions.
[02:11] <rapha> :)
[02:11] <slyboots> Yes, Thats why I used cfisk to set up the partitioning myself
[02:11] <sorush20> how do I get my printer working I have hplip running and printer is configured and I have restarted cupsys but still no use?
[02:11] <slyboots> the error still shows up
[02:11] <vicky_> thanks :D goodnight :D :D
[02:12] <slyboots> Well, well this "Alterative" CD fit on a 650mb disc/
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> good morning..
[02:12] <slyboots> Thats the only size RW I have
[02:12] <rapha> slyboots: should... I always buy 700ers, so I wouldn't really know.
[02:12] <slyboots> I've not had to buy a CD in a while.. Im a poor student ^^
[02:13] <slyboots> "Me poor, need money"
[02:13] <slyboots> :D
[02:13] <boricua> sorush20:what printer?
[02:13] <emilosterholm> HELP: Anyone have this problem: Have to unplug the power cord for 20 seconds on dual-boot winXP & 6.06 AMD64 install? If I don't my nic doesn't seem to work properly.
[02:14] <maikol> how would i put this in fstab: mount -rbind /media/hdb1/site /jail/glftpd/site
[02:14] <silent_scream> is there any program similar to "rapget"? A download manager that is compatible with rapidshare megaupload etc..???
[02:14] <orbin> slyboots: doubt it.  the iso alone is 692mb
[02:15] <slyboots> Damnit, Going to have to waste another CDr
[02:15] <slyboots> Plus there is a odds that it wont work any better than the graphical install
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> emilosterholm: I have heard that before... something about XP writing into the nic...  Question, If you are in Ubuntu and go into XP do you need to unplug for 20 seconds or just from XP into Ubuntu
[02:15] <nozorro> slyboots: try using alternate install CD
[02:16] <slyboots> Yea, but I have to waste another CDR on it.. I've only got a few left
[02:16] <emilosterholm> Umm.. Possibly. I haven't spent much time with the XP since installing ubuntu. However I was in it quickly a bit ago and browser worked but ping gave 'not a valid win32 application' error.
[02:16] <slyboots> Whats the odds of it working better
[02:17] <Sanne> slyboots: pretty good, from what I read
[02:17] <slyboots> Okay, Oh, another short question ;)
[02:17] <slyboots> If I install the 64bit version of Ubunut
[02:17] <slyboots> will I still be able to run the default packages, wor will I need 64bit versions of everything
[02:17] <helpme> did the ubuntu update server go down? is there a way to change to another one
[02:17] <slyboots> (I have a ATI Card)
[02:17] <slyboots> Uh.. Nviida even
[02:17] <slyboots> *Nvidia  Gahh!
[02:18] <rapha> slyboots: yes
[02:18] <krazykit> hrm... is ther a way to remotely turn off a monitor through dpms?
[02:18] <dashriKe> remind me again of the way to set up partitions for an upgradeable Ubuntu system?
 do  know how to use ffmpeg
[02:18] <slyboots> ... Yes to what?
[02:18] <dashriKe> FliesLikeABrick :: on an 80GB, go 70GB /, 5GB /home, 3GB /var [or something?] , and 2GB swap?
[02:18] <dashriKe> *like
[02:18] <slyboots> That I need 64bit versions of everything?
[02:18] <rapha> slyboots: aye
[02:18] <magnet> huh
[02:18] <Sanne> slyboots: basically you need the 64bit versions of everything. There are just a few programs that don't have a 64bit version yet. There are ways to get them working: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> emilosterholm: Paddy_EIREno
[02:18] <TylerDurdener> where should i extract .rar files to usually? in windows its Program Files, whats the default location in ubuntu?
[02:19] <magnet> 5GB /home and 70GB / ?!!!
[02:19] <rapha> slyboots: mostly probs with commercial software
[02:19] <slyboots> DAmnit, this 64bit CPU was such a waste of money
[02:19] <emilosterholm> ??
 keepin busy
[02:19] <rapha> slyboots: give it some time
[02:19] <Sanne> slyboots: I have amd64 and it works fine
[02:19] <iLikeSpoons> this is really annoying
[02:19] <krazykit> slyboots: not really.  it'll execute 32-bit code really fast anyway...
[02:19] <helpme> just think of how much memory you can address!
[02:19] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: if you are new to ubuntu, pls. don't install from rar files if possible
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> emilosterholm: That really points to a problem, with XP, intentional or otherwise.  Not something that Ub has done..
[02:19] <Sanne> slyboots: read the link I gave, so you can make an informed decision fo what to install.
[02:19] <slyboots> I onyl have 1gb ;)
[02:20] <iLikeSpoons> when I try to follow any of the instructions on the ubuntu forums or help.ubuntu.com about installing the nvidia drivers, I get the following message when I restart the X server:
[02:20] <dashriKe> magnet :: I couldn't remembor, that was why i asked
[02:20] <slyboots> So I doubt it matters, And Im reviewing it now Sanne thanks
[02:20] <TylerDurdener> its for my logitech mouse driver, just need to know what's the best location to install it to since i don't want to cluster my desktop
[02:20] <iLikeSpoons> FATAL: module nvidia not found
[02:20] <iLikeSpoons> even though I installed all the modules I was supposed to
[02:20] <magnet> dashriKe: ok, well it depends on your usage
[02:20] <Sanne> slyboots: good luck, and good nicht (going to sleep now ;) )
[02:20] <Bullines> Hi.  Is there any reason why Synaptic would be unable to launch?  "Starting Administrative Application" appears in the Window List briefly when I click on it, but then it disapears and Synaptic never starts.  Any suggestions?
[02:20] <emilosterholm> I'm wondering if there are kernel parameters that I can use so I don't have to reach under my desk everytime
[02:21] <emilosterholm> pain in the ass is all
[02:21] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: what kind of file(s) are in the archive?
[02:21] <magnet> on 80, i'd say 10 /, 10 /usr, double of ram of swap, the rest /home (/some would make a /var partition too)
[02:21] <slyboots> I think I'll stick with the 32bit version
[02:21] <TylerDurdener> nozorro, http://lomoco.linux-gamers.net/
[02:21] <slyboots> Im having enough problems getting hte OS to work, never mind making it worse :D
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Bullines: One of the ops was saying something about a bug in Synaptic.. I didnt catch the whole conversation but it was not hard to fix from what I remember. Did this start after a recent update?
[02:22] <NickyB> I want to know if its a good comunity of french users of ubuntu?
[02:22] <magnet> dashriKe: to me reusable/upgradable means I can keep my home partition across many installs/distros, over many years, so your home is gonna be the biggest partition
[02:23] <Bullines> Jack_Sparrow: Yes.  I installed a couple of updates yesterday, but didn't notice the problem until I booted today.
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr > NickyB
[02:23] <dashriKe> magnet :: k
[02:23] <DBO> Bullines, run synaptic from a terminal and see what errors you get
[02:23] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: well, that's source code. just make a new dir in your home dir., then compile in it and 'sudo make install'.
[02:23] <NickyB> !fr
[02:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:23] <slyboots> Damn frenchies!
[02:23] <netsavy006> Hi
[02:23] <slyboots> Such nice food
[02:23] <NickyB> :) thank you
[02:24] <slyboots> And we hate you for it ;)
[02:24] <netsavy006> I'm having a prob
[02:24] <NickyB> (not to slyboots ;))
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Bullines:  I honestly did not catch more than a few bits of the conversation. Sorry I cant help more
[02:24] <slyboots> hehe
[02:24] <netsavy006> I don't seem to have glibc installed for ubuntu and I don't know where to get it.
[02:24] <rapha> !se
[02:24] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:24] <magnet> ,
[02:24] <magnet> netsavy006: lol
[02:24] <rapha> !it
[02:24] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:24] <netsavy006> I did apt-get install glibc but it didn't find glibc
[02:24] <rapha> !de
[02:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:24] <rapha> fun
[02:24] <TylerDurdener> thank you nozorro
[02:24] <magnet> are you running ubuntu right now? without glibc, you don't have anything
[02:24] <slyboots> netsavy006: Use the ubuntu installedr, its in your menu under xwindows
[02:24] <ladydoor> netsavy006: are you trying to install something from source?
[02:24] <netsavy006> no
[02:24] <netsavy006> not that I know of
[02:25] <nickipee> hi there, quick question: HOW do you change the run level in ubuntu for a console login?  been tearing my hair out
[02:25] <netsavy006> I'm just wondering if I can find the file manually on the web
[02:25] <aum> hi - is there any noticable advantage to switching from debian to ubuntu? I've been using debian for 5 years, am about to upgrade to an AMD64 box, and considering a switch to ubuntu as part of that process
[02:25] <nickipee> as editing the /etc/init.d file does not seem to make a difference
[02:25] <ladydoor> netsavy006: look in synaptic or aptitude. it might be called something similar. alternatively, you could use "apt-cache search"
[02:25] <slyboots> aum, Ubuntu IS debian
[02:25] <magnet> netsavy006:  well you can but to what end? (except for learning)
[02:25] <slyboots> Just.. more friendly
[02:25] <nozorro> nickipee: 'init1|2|3 ...'
[02:25] <aum> slyboots: in what ways more friendly?
[02:25] <netsavy006> apt-get search didn't find that specifically
[02:25] <iLikeSpoons> so, anyone have any idea about problems with nvidia drivers installation? I followed all the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and it didn't work - the X server reports that there is no 'nvidia' module
[02:26] <netsavy006> synaptic isn't working
[02:26] <DBO> netsavy006, xgl user?
[02:26] <netsavy006> what's xgl?
[02:26] <slyboots> Differnet package base, lots of buildin software (GUI mostly to make configuring and using the system simpler)
[02:26] <FirstStrike> Obviously not
[02:26] <slyboots> At its core its just Debian
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: Please use pastebin to post your xorg.conf
[02:26] <iLikeSpoons> already did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22691
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks, will look now
[02:26] <Bullines> Jack_Sparrow:  I get the following error msg; "Not running as root.  The application will run in read-only mode.  You will not be able to change the package database."
[02:27] <magnet> aum: I am myself a debian user and I like Ubuntu's top down approach while Debian is more bottom-up
[02:27] <aum> slyboots: so ubuntu users don't have to hack config files rebuild kernels, and trawl through manpages and mailing lists for hours on end just to get 'device x' working?
[02:27] <nickipee> nozorro: thanks
[02:27] <nickipee> i will try that
[02:27] <krazykit> Bullines: you need to run it as root... use sudo or gksudo
[02:27] <iLikeSpoons> when I run nvidia-glx-config enable, nothing happens (I have to manually change 'vesa' to 'nvidia'), while nvidia-xconfig changes it, but the end result is the same
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Bullines: try gksudo synaptic
[02:27] <slyboots> aum, I never had to do that with Debian either o.o
[02:27] <magnet> aum: no, in fact I barely use the shell anymore in ubuntu (and I just use what gives more productivity)
[02:27] <slyboots> So I could not realy say, sorry
[02:28] <nozorro> nickipee: this is for the console, there may be problems if you try this from a running desktop in a *terminal*
[02:28] <aum> slyboots: i've had to do that often - for example, getting my graphics tablet and video I/O devices working
[02:28] <magnet> what suits the job best in ubuntu is not always the shell anymore (like it is in debian)
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: You installed ati drivers, and you are running in vesa mode
[02:28] <nickipee> nozorro: right.  all i want is basically to have a console login at boot every time, and for me to start X server manually
[02:28] <netsavy006> I don't really want to install it from source
[02:28] <ladydoor> nickipee: here's how
[02:28] <magnet> aum: I use to live in my shell window too
[02:28] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow  - yup. I had an ati card, changed it to a nvidia
[02:28] <riko> how do i install downloaded ubuntu packages from a commmand line?
[02:28] <netsavy006> and I don't have a ubuntu disk w/ me
[02:28] <slyboots> aum, In that case you might be happy with Debian then
[02:29] <ladydoor> nickipee: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[02:29] <krazykit> i still live in the shell, and this is a desktop machine ;-)
[02:29] <magnet> I completly change my usage of my desktop; it's not better nor worse, but I expect things to work by themselves now :)
[02:29] <nozorro> nickipee: well, to start X from the console, try 'startx'. to start gdm from the console, try 'init 2'
[02:29] <aum> my debian system is /such/ a total mess
[02:29] <ladydoor> nickipee: and if you ever want it back, run this command:  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[02:29] <drh> can anyone recommend a good site for downloading new ubuntu/gnome desktop themes, login manager screens etc
[02:29] <krazykit> drh: gnome-look.org
[02:29] <Bullines> Jack_Sparrow:  I tried both sudo and gksudo but get this error: "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:29] <iLikeSpoons> ah... wait, ok, I didn't run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg after rebooting in vesa mode
[02:29] <silent_scream> xine doesn't show me any subtitles!! what is going on?
[02:29] <nickipee> ladydoor: so you're saying remove gdm altoghether?  but then will i be able to start XFCE by typing in 'startx' as normal from CLI?
[02:29] <ladydoor> nickipee: and that will allow you to boot to a console by default
[02:29] <drh> krazykit: thanks
[02:29] <riko> how do i install downloaded ubuntu packages from a commmand line?
[02:30] <ladydoor> nickipee: ok, that won't uninstall gdm. that removes the symlinks in the rc.d directory
[02:30] <netsavy006> when I do sudo synaptic in the command as root I get:
[02:30] <ladydoor> nickipee: meaning it won't run on boot
[02:30] <magnet> well I always have a few shells open, but I don't use them as much as before .. I don't mount USB keys manually, nautilus/gnome is WAY faster (lots of improvements since 2.4) so nautilus is actually usable (and faster to move files around with drag & drop)
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: nvidia drivers do not appear to be installed
[02:30] <netsavy006> sudo: unable to lookup OEMCOMPUTER via gethostbyname()
[02:30] <nickipee> right
[02:30] <nickipee> cool
[02:30] <nickipee> hmm
[02:30] <Eleaf> hi
[02:30] <ladydoor> nickipee: so you'll boot to a terminal and type startx to have your .xinitrc read and start x
[02:30] <magnet> well just try it out .. but don't forget it's Debian Ubuntu ;)
[02:30] <riko> does anyone know the command to install ubuntu packages located on the hd?
[02:31] <nickipee> ladydoor you should be a nurse during wartime or something
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Bullines:  Have you been doing anything as sudo lately?
[02:31] <ladydoor> nickipee: eh? why?
[02:31] <hondje> riko: dpkg -i package.deb
[02:31] <nickipee> heh kidding, thanks though
[02:31] <riko> hondje: thanks
[02:31] <ladydoor> nickipee: err...thanks. i think? anyway, you're welcome
[02:31] <magnet> just don't become one of those ex debianist now ubuntu converted trolling back on debian after having trolled on ubuntu :P
[02:31] <ladydoor> magnet: how about people just don't troll at all? that's my vote
[02:32] <lhds> whats that best image viewer that has somuch options to workon imagefiles next to viewing them zoom rotate flytothemoon additional options and that is not big and runs in xfce?
[02:32] <ladydoor> !best
[02:32] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:32] <magnet> ladydoor: do such people exist? :-)
[02:32] <ladydoor> lhds: but you might check out feh. it's pretty minimal, but i think it's got features
[02:32] <TylerDurdener> nozoro, i tried doing "make" but it the command isnt found
[02:32] <ladydoor> magnet: i've heard legends
[02:32] <TylerDurdener> nozorro*
[02:32] <magnet> :)
[02:32] <Bullines> Jack_Sparrow: Not since I booted today.
[02:32] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: you need to install build-essential
[02:32] <lhds> feh ... ill check that out
[02:32] <lhds> is there something like picasa?
[02:33] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:33] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: you need to install build-essential or somesuch package. not installed by default
[02:33] <nozorro> lhds: gthumb, f-spot
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Bullines:  Have you done it since you last used synaptic successfully
[02:33] <TylerDurdener> ill try that ladydoor
[02:33] <iLikeSpoons> WOOO!
[02:33] <magnet> lhds: there's even picasa
[02:33] <magnet> :)
[02:33] <lhds> wow thanx nozorro
[02:33] <iLikeSpoons> working now, with nv drivers.
[02:33] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: sweet
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: please post xorg again for me
[02:34] <iLikeSpoons> just a sec
[02:34] <gnomefreak> iLikeSpoons: nv or nvidia drivers
[02:34] <iLikeSpoons> gnomefreak - nv, for now
[02:34] <Bullines> Jack_Sparrow: Even "sudo bash" gives the same error.  Has my root account been borked?
[02:35] <magnet> Bullines: sudo -i ?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Bullines:  That is my fear.. yes
[02:35] <iLikeSpoons> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22692
[02:35] <riddlebox> if I change from a sis chipset, to a via chipset will ubuntu be able to handle that?
[02:35] <Bullines> magnet: same error
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Bullines: gnomefreak: may have a cure.. I am in over my head..
[02:35] <TylerDurdener> ladydoor, now it says no rule to make target 'install'. stop
[02:35] <magnet> oh
[02:35] <magnet> I know your solution
[02:35] <magnet> wait :)
[02:36] <Bullines> Jack_Sparrow: Thx for helping me narrow it down to the root prob.
[02:36] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: what exactly did you type?
[02:36] <Bullines> magnet: ok :)
[02:36] <magnet> can you cat /etc/hosts
[02:36] <TylerDurdener> ladydoor, first i did make, then make isntall, gave me both the same error
[02:36] <magnet> ?
[02:36] <sorush20> I'm not new to ubuntu my printer is supported by linuxprinting.org and I know that I need hplip and I have restarted cupsys .. hplip-toolkit showes that the device is detected but I I can't get the printer driver to chage..
[02:36] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: did you follow the instruction on the page from where you downloaded?
[02:36] <magnet> i guess it's empty, or that you changed something recently
[02:36] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: oh! ok. did you do ./configure first?
[02:36] <netsavy006> if I add the source(s) to my sources.list file how do I install from source automaticall
[02:36] <netsavy006> automatically
[02:36] <magnet> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   locahost    ubuntu
[02:36] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: './configure' is the important command
[02:36] <netsavy006> w/o having to do the compile work
[02:37] <magnet> (that's wht you should have)
[02:37] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: and when installing packages, you need to do first make and then _sudo_ make install (w/o the underlines)
[02:37] <TylerDurdener> nozorro, thats what im trying to do :D ladydoor, that command tells me no such directory exists
[02:37] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: and only do sudo make install if make doesn't have errors. does that help?
[02:37] <Bullines> magnet: I have "127.0.0.1  localhost".  How can I edit that without sudo?
[02:37] <sorush20> I keep getting this message on trying to choose a new driver in kde Unable to start the creation of the driver database. The execution of make_driver_db_cups failed.
[02:37] <magnet> do you have activated your root account before?
[02:38] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: what is the output of ls? please post it in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:38] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: and then send the link here
[02:38] <magnet> (ie, set a pass for root)
[02:38] <Bullines> magnet: You mean used sudo? Yes.
[02:38] <magnet> no :)
[02:38] <Bullines> magnet:  no,i've never set a pwd for root
[02:38] <magnet> i mean have a real root account to which you can su when you have such a problem ;)
[02:38] <salkot> Sometimes my networking tool does not show ANY wireless networks, even though I know they're there. Other times it lists them just fine. I didn't used to have this problem. Any ideas?
[02:38] <netsavy006> there is a command I read off of debian that menitons sometihing w/ a -b in it that does it...
[02:39] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: may ask the people which provided the source code. some source code packages are not very easy to build
[02:39] <magnet> ok then the only solution is booting linux single
[02:39] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: *maybe
[02:39] <Macros42> !printer
[02:39] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:39] <magnet> ie, linux in single user mode, remount / on rw, and change /etc/hosts
[02:39] <magnet> then reboot
[02:39] <TylerDurdener> ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22693
[02:39] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow: how does the xorg.conf look now? should I be safe with just commenting out dri and putting nvidia instead of nv, if I already installed all the packages?
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> im running xgl and would like to know what the minimum requirements are for having it run smoothly
[02:40] <magnet> there's no easy way to do this (depending on your definition of easy), so I'll look for a tutorial, gimme a sec
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec.. had to take a call
[02:40] <Bullines> magnet:  I'm a bit new new this.  What's linux single?
[02:40] <iLikeSpoons> np, take your time :P
[02:40] <magnet> Bullines: linux in single usermode, it doesnt go to runlevel 2 (default runlevel on debian based systems)
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: Just change line 93 to nvidia
[02:41] <magnet> when you log, you're automatically root
[02:41] <iLikeSpoons> awesome! thanks.
[02:41] <magnet> it's like DOS ;)
[02:41] <Macros42> can I print to a printer that's physically connected to a windows box?
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:41] <magnet> the problem is, it will mount / as a read only partition
[02:41] <Bullines> magnet: ok, that makes sense.  is there something i need to do before i get to login screen?
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > Macros42
[02:41] <magnet> so you have to remount it as read/write, so there's a trick (because you can't have no / partition at any given time)
[02:42] <Macros42> !samba
[02:42] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:42] <magnet> yes Bullines
[02:42] <riddlebox> how long does the memtest on the cd usually take for 512mb?
[02:42] <ladydoor> TylerDurdener: ok, you seem to be missing the configure script. did you remove anything, or was it already like that? Try reading the files INSTALL and README (read them both before doing anything, or at least skim for pertinant info). to do that, use the command less:  less FILENAME
[02:42] <magnet> I know how to do it in Lilo but not in Grub
[02:42] <nozorro> TylerDurdener: there's a lomoco irc channel, just in case you didn't notice already
[02:42] <rapha> This is so strange... I've never before seen watching a DVD bring up the load to over 4
[02:42] <magnet> maybe someone knows here? How to linux single root=/dev/maindisk initrd=
[02:42] <magnet> with grub
[02:43] <ladydoor> magnet: you mean the recovery mode?
[02:43] <sc0tt> Anyone here use tv cards with buntu?
[02:43] <magnet> you can still add the line in menu.lst
[02:43] <riddlebox> sc0tt, yeah
[02:43] <rapha> me sc0tt
[02:43] <sc0tt> what programs do you use to view/tune?
[02:43] <magnet> ladydoor: if that's how they call it, yes
[02:43] <magnet> so that's what it is :) Ok.
[02:43] <Bullines> magnet: would "recovery mode" be what i'm lookin for?
[02:43] <magnet> it sure seems so ;)
[02:44] <rapha> tvtime is cool sc0tt
[02:44] <magnet> it's incredible how things evolve fast
[02:44] <NewpZ> hi, i built an arcade (mame) machine... I am trying to ust have ubuntu bootup and automaticly run the frontend in X.. I do not want the gdm/kdm/xdm login screen, just want the frontend to launch.. any help?
[02:44] <magnet> :D
[02:44] <TylerDurdener> ladydoor, i did not move anything around, just extracted the package and tried following the directions, whats weird is typing ./configure.ac works, but says permission denied, yet when i try sudo ./configure.ac, it says command not found. anyhow, ill look into those files, i have to go for now. nozorro, i havent noticed that, ill check the channel when i come back. thanks for helping, both of you
[02:44] <riddlebox> sc0tt, I use mythtv
[02:44] <s0|> so I ran a live boot copy of 6.06 and I am trying to use the wireless nic on this laptop.... I can't find the option for WPA-Pre shared key -TKIP , or any WPA for that matter.... am I not looking in the right place or is this out of the question for the live boot?
[02:44] <ladydoor> magnet: here's the single-user/recovery-mode kernel line from my menu.lst:  kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda3 ro single
[02:44] <sc0tt> rapha, how'd you configure tvtime? :P
[02:44] <magnet> yep that's it
[02:44] <rapha> Erm
[02:44] <magnet> ok so Bullines
[02:44] <rapha> As far as I know, you just start it sc0tt :)
[02:45] <riddlebox> anyone ever use memtester on the livecd?
[02:45] <sc0tt> lol
[02:45] <magnet> you'll just have to note (or print) how to remount / as rw, and what to put in /etc/hosts
[02:45] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, that's for file shared isn't it?
[02:45] <sc0tt> kdetv is nice
[02:45] <Sarra_> How do I get the 'trash' back? Or how can I access it, outside of the icon that's normally on the program bar?
[02:45] <sc0tt> just doesn't tune right
[02:45] <magnet> (hoping that's the problem, but i'm almost certain it is)
[02:45] <paotzu> ubuntu is great, I haven't seen this kind of glue between newbies and experts since slackware... not that slack is dead
[02:45] <ladydoor> paotzu: by no means is it dead! it's blessed by bob
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: Did I send you samba for file sharing instead of cups?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !cups
[02:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:45] <Macros42> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:45] <rapha> sc0tt: if you want something more close to the metal, get scantv and xawtv
[02:45] <ladydoor> paotzu: or rather, by "bob"
[02:46] <s0|> !wpa
[02:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:46] <riddlebox> hrmm memtest86 is telling me 43008 errors, I hope I dont have both ram chips bad
[02:46] <paotzu> ladydoo: I was going to say :P
[02:46] <orbin> NewpZ: maybe just set it to auto-login the user and then add the mame program to the auto-tartup programs?
[02:46] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow,  i'll have a read - thanks
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ok
[02:46] <magnet> Bullines: still here? :)
[02:46] <NewpZ> orbin,  where do u set autologin?
[02:46] <Bullines> magnet: I think I'm getting somewhere :)  Is there an editor that I can use that isn't vim?
[02:46] <iLikeSpoons> no joy
[02:46] <ladydoor> Bullines: nano
[02:47] <magnet> Bullines: what you have to put in /etc/hosts is 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   locahost        machine-name
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia drivers didnt come up
[02:47] <magnet> you find machine-name in /etc/hostname (it should match)
[02:47] <ladydoor> Bullines: the command to use is sudo nano -w
[02:47] <netsavy006> I found my solution
[02:47] <netsavy006> thanks
[02:47] <iLikeSpoons> again, I get "FATAL: module nvidia not found" and "could not find kernel module nvidia"
[02:47] <netsavy006> laterz
[02:47] <ladydoor> Bullines: followed by the filename
[02:47] <magnet> well vim rocks ;) but yep pico does it for you
[02:47] <Bullines> ladydoor: thx, i'll try nano
[02:47] <ladydoor> Bullines: np.
[02:47] <s0|> ok I can't even get this to connect with WEP........ what gives, is the live boot cd's a joke or what?
[02:47] <orbin> NewpZ: sys > admin > login > security tab
[02:47] <ladydoor> !attitude
[02:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:48] <magnet> so put the new hostfile somewhere in a file
[02:48] <magnet> (prepare it in advance so you only have to cp it)
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons:  that is odd... your xorg looked fine..
[02:48] <Bullines> ladydoor: it's like pico...thank god :)
[02:48] <Bullines> magnet: rebooting...and crossing fingers ;)
[02:48] <magnet> Bullines: it's a Free clone
[02:48] <magnet> wait
[02:48] <magnet> :)
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: Which drivers did you use?
[02:48] <ladydoor> Bullines: haha...it's a clone, actually. very "user-friendly," not so powerful
[02:48] <magnet> do you know how to remount / as read/write?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to start dinner soon
[02:48] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow: apt get also tells me: "nvidia-glx is already the newest version.nvidia-kernel-common is already the newest version."
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: Which drivers did you use?
[02:49] <_ian> guys is there a way to have a theme like suse run in kubuntu?
[02:49] <Bullines> magnet: ummm...is recovery read-only?
[02:49] <magnet> yep Bullines
[02:49] <sorush20> hi guys I keep getting this message
[02:49] <sorush20> Unable to load the requested driver:
[02:49] <sorush20> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-LaserJet_5Si,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[02:49] <magnet> that's the "ro" in the menu.lst ;)
[02:49] <Bullines> magnet: d'oh.  then 'no' :(
[02:49] <magnet> well just do (as root)
[02:49] <magnet> mount -o remount,rw /dev/<device> /
[02:49] <Coop> which isp in au
[02:49] <magnet> and get the device just by typing "mount" before
[02:49] <magnet> you'll have the device used by /
[02:49] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow: the package I installed is nvidia-glx
[02:50] <NewpZ> orbin, where do autostart something in gnome?
[02:50] <NewpZ> this rocks
[02:50] <magnet> eg, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda /
[02:50] <ladydoor> _ian: you might look at gnome-look.org or kde-look.org
[02:50] <orbin> NewpZ: sys > prefs > sessions
[02:50] <iLikeSpoons> and I just changed the driver line from 'nv' to 'nvidia'
[02:50] <magnet> (if you use SATA disks)
[02:50] <ladydoor> _ian: though that second one may have a different look
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: Where did you get that file?
[02:50] <_ian> suse is running  on kde right?
[02:51] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow: I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:51] <s0|> help I am having issues with wireless on liveboot dvd..... anyone even reading this?
[02:51] <Coop> which isp in australia supports linux
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > jack_sparrow
[02:51] <Macros42> s0|, i did too yesterday - what wireless card?
[02:51] <Bullines> magnet: it appears that booting recover is read/write.  all seems to work :)
[02:51] <IRC_> what is the command to execute a bin file?
[02:51] <magnet> mhh, strange given the command launching it :)
[02:51] <orbin> Coop: define support.
[02:52] <Telroth> hey, anyone online that can help with an xine problem ?
[02:52] <magnet> well good luck anyway, I hope that's the prob
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: What video card... sorry I dont remember..
[02:52] <IRC_> what is the command to execute a bin file?
[02:52] <s0|> I was not here yesterday, it's a bulit in one on the laptop made by intel as far as I know.... don't know where to look to find the exact model in *nix
[02:52] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, worked a treat. Easy even once you pointed me in the right direction :) thanks
[02:52] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow: nvidia geForce2 mx400
[02:52] <Telroth> IRC_: ./<filename>
[02:52] <Bullines> magnet:  yup, all seems good.  no sudo errors.  synaptic launches.  thx for your help :)
[02:52] <magnet> np :)
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: well done
[02:52] <IRC_> telroth: do i need sudo?
[02:52] <jfkf> Hello how can I activate all the repositores ?
[02:52] <Coop> which isp works with linux
[02:52] <Telroth> IRC_: if the app needs root priviledges, then yes
[02:52] <jmanblue> i have a friend that accidentally reformatted his HD w/ the ubuntu install CD and isntalled ubuntu over it, what are some good recovery programs i can use to recover atleast some of the data
[02:53] <IRC_> ok
[02:53] <s0|> it lists the wireless connection as eth1 and I can set ONLY a wep key (where the heck is WPA) and it won't even connect to the WEP I just setup
[02:53] <nozorro> Coop: all should. well, *should*. almost all *will* work.
[02:53] <riddlebox> man I had a brown out or something, my motherboard and a 256mb stick of ram is shot!
[02:53] <lupine_85> jmanblue: he'll have ahard time
[02:53] <Telroth> IRC_: usually no, but if it's a system configuration editor for example, then you'd need to sudo because system files can't be edited without root priviledges
[02:53] <Telroth> argh
[02:53] <bur[n] er> anyone know if glade 3 has a .deb somewhere for dapper?
[02:53] <nozorro> Coop: some might give you trouble if you're on dialup
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> iLikeSpoons: Did you install linux-restricted-modules-your kernel here
[02:53] <magnet> jmanblue: the best ones are voodoo, sorcery, and dreaming :)
[02:53] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow: yup
[02:54] <Coop> i have optus broadband but it doesn't
[02:54] <john_12> hello
[02:54] <jmanblue> come on get serious, do any of you know any good recovery programs or not?
[02:54] <nozorro> Coop: what's the problem then?
[02:54] <iLikeSpoons> hmmm... the help file suggest rebuilding dependencies and restarting X again... just did sudo depmod, will reboot and let you have your dinner, Jack_Sparrow :P
[02:54] <Telroth> jmanblue: for deleted files?
[02:54] <Telroth> jmanblue: try photorec
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[02:54] <magnet> jmanblue: I think it's very unlikely that you'll be able to recover anything
[02:55] <Coop> optus dsl doesn't work
[02:55] <jmanblue> Telroth: no, i have recovered b4 using getdataback but i was wondering is there anything better?
[02:55] <iix> why not?
[02:55] <Macros42> jmanblue, if it's installed over the required data then he's pretty much screwed
[02:55] <iix> Coop why n0t?
[02:55] <john_12> does any body know anything about xandros
[02:55] <iix> Coop i had optus dsl before and worked fine...
[02:55] <s0|> Macros42, ideas?
[02:55] <nozorro> Coop: but dsl connects up to your dsl modem/router. linux is behind it. or?
[02:55] <magnet> john_12: I know that it's debian based P
[02:55] <michael> How can I download files from the Ubuntu repository online through a web browser?
[02:55] <magnet> :)
[02:56] <Telroth> jmanblue: you may try photorec ;) it's supposed to be good at recovering files even without a partition table
[02:56] <viator> xandros pretty much sucks
[02:56] <iix> is it usb or erthernet ?
[02:56] <viator> lol
[02:56] <magnet> michael: go to the repository with your web browser and download the .deb files
[02:56] <jmanblue> Macros42: no i'm trying to just get as much required info out as possible, i told him not to boot or install anything
[02:56] <Coop> its ethernet
[02:56] <viator> :-$ but thats all iknow
[02:56] <iix> then it should work fine
[02:56] <Macros42> s0|, mines listed as eth1 too for some reason.  but I use wep. I saw wpa earlier - trying to find it
[02:56] <john_12> I have it pure Sh_t not what it is said it is
[02:57] <Macros42> but one of the gurus here might find it quicker .... :)
[02:57] <jfkf> Can anyone tell me a good repository list??
[02:57] <rapha> jmanblue: all will most likely be lost... there is a utility that might get you the odd file... let me look it up.
[02:57] <Coop> but it doesnt work and optus doent support linux
[02:57] <s0|> <Macros42, I don't give a %^&*( about which one it will use ATM, I just want one of them work, like 5 mins ago
[02:57] <iix> coop do u have a router ?
[02:57] <nozorro> Coop: they say the don't support it, maybe
[02:57] <iix> nozorro they dont trust me i was with them 3 months ago
[02:57] <nozorro> Coop: but that doesnt say much anyway ...
[02:58] <Coop> i have a siemen speedstream modem
[02:58] <clearzen> !backup
[02:58] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[02:58] <Telroth> jmanblue: Knoppix has photorec if you want to try it - it doesn't touch the harddrive/partition you're recovering, just reads, so you can always try it
[02:58] <sysdoc> jmanblue, was there data written to the formated disk?
[02:58] <iix> coop didnt they give u a d-link302g modem ?
[02:58] <nozorro> iix: but what's the specific problem then with the dsl configuration?
[02:58] <Telroth> hey, anyone online that can help with an xine problem ?
[02:58] <rapha> jmanblue: name is "PhotoRec", should be in the package "testdisk"
[02:59] <iix> nozorro no idea =\
[02:59] <Coop>  they gave a siemen speedstream modem
[02:59] <Telroth> whee, i'm not the only one to recommend photorec
[02:59] <jmanblue> sysdoc: yes, only ubuntu install, nothing more...
[02:59] <Macros42> wep works fine - just install network-manager-gnome
[02:59] <rapha> Telroth: you beat me to it?
[02:59] <jfkf> I want to install skype, but I dont find it in synaptic
[02:59] <sysdoc> jmanblue, pm me
[03:00] <iix> Coop fair eunff they gave me a d-link one and i still have it. hmm did u "dhcpcd" it ?
[03:00] <NewpZ> is there a way to stop gnome-panel from starting when you start gnome?
[03:00] <taigeR> how stable is 6.10?
[03:00] <Macros42> jfkf, it's available in automatix
[03:00] <jfkf> Macros42: I dont have automatix
[03:00] <rapha> jmanblue: you could get lucky with the sectors that haven't been overwritten by anything. I also know that professional data recoverers sometimes manage to get data from the 2nd or 3rd layer of bits
[03:00] <Telroth> rapha: yeah, i've been telling him to try it for the past 3 minutes
[03:00] <chibiace> jfkf: i'd get the beta deb from the skype site and dpkg it
[03:00] <viator> skype is in repos
[03:00] <viator> older one
[03:00] <viator> and
[03:00] <taigeR> anybody tried 6.10? is that stable in any way?
[03:00] <viator> theres a .deb
[03:00] <rapha> Telroth: damnit! Took me too long then :-P
[03:00] <Macros42> jfkf, then just install the deb package from skype.com
[03:00] <Mercutio150> Does anyone know what extension .daa is ?
[03:00] <viator> on their site
[03:00] <Coop> i dont know
[03:00] <jfkf> Macros42: I dont find automatix in sypnatics neither
[03:00] <ne78> Are the packages from ubuntu [universe]  supported for security fix ?
[03:00] <viator> download the .deb
[03:00] <viator> its newer
[03:01] <JosefK> taigeR: try #ubuntu+1 for Edgy questions
[03:01] <viator> from their site
[03:01] <Telroth> rapha: you any good with xine?
[03:01] <jfkf> Macros42: where I can find automatix?
[03:01] <rapha> Telroth: how can one be good with xine?
[03:01] <iix> Coop can you connect to your modem via web?
[03:01] <viator> jfkf
[03:01] <viator> theres a .deb for skype on their site
[03:01] <jfkf> chibiace: cool thx
[03:01] <Coop> i dont know.i dont think so
[03:01] <nozorro> Coop: a device connected through ethernet to your linux box is handled by the latter no matter what, basically
[03:01] <Macros42> jfkf, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[03:02] <JosefK> taigeR: but from the topic of #ubuntu+1 "Edgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machines"
[03:02] <viator> i dont recommend automatix
[03:02] <jfkf> Macros42: thx
[03:02] <jfkf> viator: thx
[03:02] <viator> maybe easy ubuntu
[03:02] <JosefK> taigeR: your milage may vary though
[03:02] <Coop> is there any isp that supports linux
[03:02] <Macros42> jfkf, yw
[03:02] <iix> Coop nozorro knows more then me on this troubleshooting i guess he can help you =] 
[03:02] <Telroth> rapha: I meant do you think you could help me with some xine problems?
[03:02] <Macros42> s0|, did you get that about wep?
[03:02] <jfkf> viator: where I get easyubuntu?
[03:02] <Coop> does telstra support linux
[03:03] <Telroth> rapha: namely the fact that i can use xmms+alsa -> /dev/dsp1 to get music, but i can't get any sound out of xine.
[03:03] <viator> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:03] <Macros42> Coop, your isp shouldn't care what your os is
[03:03] <Telroth> rapha: and i know xine works with my cards, because elive works with them fine
[03:03] <viator> macros42 true but they do
[03:03] <iLikeSpoons> well, it's not like I *need* hardware acceleration. I'll stick with nv drivers for now
[03:03] <orbin> Coop: i'm on bigpod...i wouldn't suggest changing ISPs though.  i know a lot of people who use optus fine
[03:03] <AnI> hi im kinda of short on harddisk space how much space does ubuntu need?
[03:03] <viator> they shove ms down your throat
[03:03] <viator> like verizon dsl
[03:04] <viator> ya have to set it up via a windows exe
[03:04] <chibiace> AnI: i installed the last version of ubuntu onto a 2gb drive
[03:04] <viator> after that its fine
[03:04] <AnI> so 10 gig is fine rite?
[03:04] <chibiace> yup
[03:04] <AnI> and does ubuntu read ntfs?
[03:04] <JosefK> viator: you can generally put those settings straight into windows if you know them
[03:04] <rapha> Telroth: oh okay, but sorry then... the only thing I can think of would be to play with the output of xine --help | grep -i audio
[03:04] <JosefK> viator: or whichever OS you happen to be using
[03:04] <Macros42> AnI, i'm on a 40gb drive atm with lots of room spare
[03:04] <viator> jose ummm no
[03:04] <viator> see you connect to their servers
[03:04] <viator> and setup your acct
[03:05] <AnI> marcros im thinking of giving ubuntu 10 gig
[03:05] <Macros42> viator, how would they even know? IP is IP isn't it?
[03:05] <viator> and what if you dont have windows
[03:05] <Telroth> rapha: the xine executable doesn't exist; i've tried installing all xine packages, but it can't install xine-ui which usually contains the xine program
[03:05] <viator> because the setup software is windows .exe
[03:05] <JosefK> viator: *shrugs* so you only need it to set the account up, I'm sure you could just point your browser at their site and do it
[03:05] <Coop> when i connect with network manager and try internet it doesnt work
[03:05] <viator> maybe itll run in wine
[03:05] <rapha> Telroth: why not?
[03:05] <AnI> and mount a partition for sharing stuff in ubuntu
[03:05] <viator> i doubt it
[03:05] <rapha> Telroth: what's it telling you?
[03:05] <Macros42> iLikeSpoons, i had a feeling you wanted acceleration - took me three hours earlier with the help of two mates to get it working
[03:06] <AnI> but i dont' no if ubuntu reads ntfs files
[03:06] <chibiace> AnI: it should read ntfs
[03:06] <Telroth> rapha: that it's a virtual package provided by other packages
[03:06] <lupine_85> read yes, write no
[03:06] <AnI> lupine you mean ntfs rite?
[03:06] <iLikeSpoons> Macros - it would have been nice to install the latest drivers, but, hell, when I think about it, what will I use 3d acceleration for?
[03:06] <NewpZ> is there a place to get new bootsplashes?
[03:06] <Macros42> viator, but setup software only makes it easy - it can be done manually - in ireland at leastr
[03:06] <viator> what im trying to say is your acct isnt activated untill AFTER you run that crap software
[03:06] <nozorro> Coop:  An Optus spokeswoman said while customers were free to use Linux, support was not provided. http://www.linux.org/news/2002/10/11/0002.html -- this is from 2002 though. Also, http://www.itee.adfa.edu.au/~gfreeman/optus-linux.html. Do some googling, Coop.
[03:07] <Macros42> iLikeSpoons, i wanted it for WoW :D
[03:07] <iLikeSpoons> hehe. I don't want WoW. I have exams to prepare :P
[03:07] <orbin> Coop: forums.whirlpool.net.au ... try the linux or optus forums there
[03:07] <Macros42> got it working in the end
[03:07] <iLikeSpoons> Also, I couldn't run WoW with such an old card... 32 megs of video ram? yeah, right... :P
[03:08] <NewpZ> orbin, thanks! your suggestions work like a champ
[03:08] <Macros42> hehe
[03:08] <motin_> Hi, if anyone has good experience with weird network dns issues, please check upon http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1461279 - it would be very kind of you!
[03:08] <viator> you know what im going to try n run it in wine
[03:08] <viator> for fun
[03:08] <orbin> NewpZ: yw
[03:08] <Macros42> viator, that could be a problem alright. dsl here is based on your phone number - the rest is just window dressing
[03:08] <orbin> NewpZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto .. kind of tricky though
[03:09] <Macros42> once I can connect to the router that's all that's required
[03:09] <NewpZ> cool thanks
[03:10] <viator> well ya you put your ppoe info into the router
[03:10] <Macros42> it's scary that I only installed this yesterday and there's already some questions I can answer :D
[03:10] <orbin> NewpZ: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_Usplash ... i just used the blue one for a while
[03:10] <orbin> NewpZ: i've turned it off altogether now though
[03:10] <viator> but you dont get that ppoe info untill after youve run their software where you setup your password and account name etc
[03:10] <NewpZ> i need something arcade like :)
[03:11] <magnet> Macros42: and tomorrow, the questions you'll have answered will be answered by those who asked today ;)
[03:11] <Macros42> viator, yep - but it's the isp provided router
[03:11] <chibiace> viator: they will have numbers for your router on their site
[03:11] <Macros42> magnet, lol
[03:11] <rapha> Telroth: funny... I
[03:11] <danilo04> how to do new acount in evolution
[03:11] <rapha> Telroth: funny... I'm on Dapper and I could install it just fine
[03:11] <NewpZ> orbin, in what? grub.conf?
[03:11] <NewpZ> text would be fine
[03:11] <viator> im not asking for any help lol
[03:12] <viator> i was just stating that verizon forces you to use ms
[03:12] <Macros42> verizon is what country?
[03:12] <viator> usa
[03:12] <NewpZ> my dad is on verizon
[03:12] <orbin> NewpZ: yep, just remove splash from the end of the kernel line and you just get the old scrolling plain text ...
[03:12] <NewpZ> and hes in ubuntu
[03:12] <magnet> Macros42: when they don't specify, it's the US ;)
[03:12] <viator> newpz ya me too
[03:12] <PreZLaptop> I'm on Verizon right now :)
[03:12] <Macros42> :D
[03:12] <NewpZ> your router is what gets you online, not your operating system
[03:12] <coincoin169> hello
[03:12] <PreZLaptop> actually, I'm on verizon while being driven home in a car
[03:12] <orbin> NewpZ: it's /boot/grub/menu.lst btw
[03:12] <Macros42> the centRE of the world right ;)
[03:13] <shut-> i still dont got java working
[03:13] <coincoin169> can someone help with gnome-video-thumbnailer ?
[03:13] <NewpZ> thanks
[03:13] <magnet> hehe :)
[03:13] <johny5> Is there anyone here that can help me get Neverwinter Nights running under dapper?
[03:13] <coincoin169> i'd like it to use mplayer instead of totem
[03:13] <viator> you have that verizon wireless broadband?
[03:13] <shut-> !java
[03:13] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:13] <iLikeSpoons> johny5, I installed it without a hitch
[03:13] <NewpZ> orbin, now how do i make the login background black on gdm? :)
[03:13] <viator> you know they make a cool router for that
[03:13] <viator> the pcmcia card plugs into it
[03:13] <PreZLaptop> viator, yeah, I do
[03:14] <PreZLaptop> the BroadbandAccess :)
[03:14] <orbin> NewpZ: sys > admin > login > bg colour
[03:14] <viator> and you can share the connection
[03:14] <PreZLaptop> I got it for the train trip into and from work
[03:14] <viator> hehe
[03:14] <PreZLaptop> but tonight I'm being driven home
[03:14] <iLikeSpoons> johny5, what is the problem nwn is giving you?
[03:14] <orbin> NewpZ: can you tell i tweak a lot? :)
[03:14] <NewpZ> hehe you the best
[03:14] <rapha> Telroth: http://download.schattenschreiber.org/sources.list
[03:14] <NewpZ> thats why im asking u :)
[03:14] <s0|> fuck this I am going back winblows
[03:14] <shut-> how do you install java
[03:14] <looksaus> anyone who has beagle working reliably on dapper?
[03:14] <PreZLaptop> viator, my card is in-built to my laptop - though I could share the connection if I wanted by just connecting via. 802.11 (eg. in AdHoc) and turning on ip forwarding
[03:15] <coincoin169> shut- download it on www.sun.com
[03:15] <iLikeSpoons> shut- doesn't just installing it from synaptic work?
[03:15] <looksaus> I would like to do indexing for .doc documents
[03:15] <johny5> iLikeSpoons, it installs fine, I've got it uupdated to 1.68, but everytime I try to run it, the screen switches resolution, goes to a black screen, and I have to alt+ctrl+bkspace.
[03:15] <viator> thats true too
[03:15] <coincoin169> lookaus what's your pb ?
[03:15] <looksaus> beagle indexing
[03:15] <viator> its to expensive for me
[03:15] <looksaus> coincoin169, it seems to crash
[03:15] <iLikeSpoons> johny5, don't do that
[03:15] <iLikeSpoons> give it time
[03:15] <looksaus> when indexing
[03:15] <iLikeSpoons> it sometimes takes a couple of minutes to load
[03:15] <coincoin169> you're speaking about a modem fast 800 aren't you ?
[03:16] <shut-> where at?
[03:16] <shut-> i cant find one for linux
[03:16] <johny5> iLikeSpoons, I've let it sit for 30 minutes with no effect.
[03:16] <Macros42> shut-, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:16] <looksaus> clk
[03:16] <Macros42> for sun java anyway
[03:16] <shut-> ah
[03:16] <pathagenx> Thankyou Ubuntu team for making a great distro!
[03:16] <PreZLaptop> Whats nice about my BroadbandAccess is that I can have my laptop sitting on my desktop at work, and be able to go anywhere on the internet, bypassing the corporate firewall (my desktop is wired t otheir lan, of course)
[03:16] <looksaus> coincoin169, about beagle...
[03:17] <PreZLaptop> so if there is a site thats blocked, I move to my laptop and its accessable for me :)
[03:17] <NewpZ> orbin, do i need to do anything after i change grub conf?
[03:17] <looksaus> is there a way to make it manually index a bunch of files?
[03:17] <iLikeSpoons> also, shut-, you need to select sun java as the default:
[03:17] <iLikeSpoons> do this:  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun
[03:17] <iLikeSpoons> after installation, of course
[03:17] <viator> first thing id do is find a way around the firewall
[03:17] <viator> i loathe that
[03:17] <shut-> what do i need for my printer to work
[03:18] <chibiace> NewpZ: grub-install?
[03:18] <PreZLaptop> viator, I did for most purposes, but its not complete
[03:18] <coincoin169> shut- comme in pv to explain me your pb
[03:18] <viator> actually companies who allow their employees to surf are usually more productive
[03:18] <johny5> iLikeSpoons, I'm going to try it again, giving it a few minutes again.
[03:18] <Macros42> viator, idd
[03:18] <iLikeSpoons> good luck, johny5
[03:18] <iLikeSpoons> also,
[03:18] <PreZLaptop> for example, I can actually USE the firewall to ssh out, and I can bypass the firewall to download binaries (which are blocked),  but I can't access sites that are blocked entirely.
[03:18] <johny5> thanks
[03:18] <iLikeSpoons> if you installed any expansions, it will take much more to start up
[03:18] <lumgwada> hi is there a simple shell command to determine  a hosts cpu arcitecture?
[03:18] <Macros42> my company uses f**king websense
[03:19] <PreZLaptop> viator, the firewall at work is actually not very restrictive, but they DO block some things like gaming sites and social networking sites
[03:19] <orbin> NewpZ: no
[03:19] <PreZLaptop> but most of the web unblocked, its only rarely I run into a blocked site
[03:19] <PreZLaptop> but on those occasons ... :)
[03:19] <orbin> lumgwada: cat /proc /cpuinfo ?
[03:19] <shut-> i got to go Bu Bye
[03:19] <Macros42> ssh ftw :)
[03:19] <PreZLaptop> BroadbandAccess to the rescue
[03:19] <lumgwada> orbin: cheers
[03:20] <slyboots> Hey
[03:20] <PreZLaptop> others create ssh tunnels and browse through those, I can't be bothered ;)
[03:20] <slyboots> Well, I downloaded the Alterative CD
[03:20] <viator> yeah but its like $60 plus you have to have a regualr calling plan
[03:20] <AnI> hey is there a safe way to convert ntfs to fat?
[03:20] <slyboots> And of course, Didnt work :P
[03:20] <orbin> lumgwada: er, actually, i don't think that shows the architecture ... your're after whther it's 32 or 64 bit right?
[03:20] <viator> if they waive having to have a calling plan i would maybe consider it
[03:20] <slyboots> "Installing Grub, GRUB FAILED, this is a fatal error!"
[03:20] <clearze1> how do I set dd to copy a image file in pieces?
[03:20] <PreZLaptop> viator, I bought it so I could be online for the train trip into and from work though - so the use at work is kind of a side-effect
[03:21] <chibiace> AnI: i did it with partition magic once
[03:21] <orbin> slyboots: have you tried searching the forum...there are a few reasons why you might have the grub error
[03:21] <AnI> chibiace yeah i have a lot of file on it
[03:21] <AnI> but i want to share a big partition with ubuntu
[03:21] <slyboots> I tried, most say "Oh just use the Alterantive CD" or dont match my issue
[03:21] <AnI> and all the ntfs driver are beta
[03:21] <AnI> better not gamble
[03:21] <chibiace> AnI: give up windows ;)
[03:22] <clearze1> does anyone know how to copy a partition in  pieces? I keep getting file limit exceeded with dd.
[03:22] <AnI> t.t i can't
[03:22] <Lard-O-Lad> AnI: try captive-ntfs
[03:22] <AnI> maybe there is a help group
[03:22] <Macros42> why do an opensource forum (ubuntuforums.org) use a proprietary forum system?
[03:22] <AnI> lard 0 i heard that is unsafe
[03:22] <slyboots> And AGAIN
[03:22] <slyboots> It thinks my Partion is formated in EFI GPT
[03:22] <AnI> Lard do u use it?
[03:22] <slyboots> ffs..
[03:22] <Lard-O-Lad> AnI: used to, then i completely switched the linux!
[03:22] <Lard-O-Lad> to*
[03:23] <viator> im getting sick of going to work and having wondows
[03:23] <AnI> i just can't kick windows
[03:23] <AnI> itz an addiction
[03:23] <AnI> there should be an help group
[03:23] <viator> and fixing windows server
[03:23] <viator> its depressing
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> XP is my nephews playstation
[03:23] <looksaus> is there a beagle application/msword filter that is workign on ubuntu dapper
[03:23] <looksaus> ?
[03:23] <Lard-O-Lad> AnI: captive is pretty good, it uses original ntfs drivers from windows, i think its pretty safe
[03:23] <orbin> slyboots: what about installing grub a different way than via the installer?
[03:23] <SurfnKid> someone shoot me please
[03:23] <Lard-O-Lad> AnI: slow as hell though
[03:23] <slyboots> Tried that, Downloaded both types of CD
[03:24] <AnI> k thx lard
[03:24] <slyboots> And tried installing gurb by hand
[03:24] <slyboots> It wont work
[03:24] <SurfnKid> ty!
[03:24] <slyboots> "ERROR! : Unknown Partition type, Filesystem 0xeee"
[03:24] <chibiace> i miss lilo :(
[03:24] <Lard-O-Lad> hehe
[03:24] <slyboots> I tried Lilo, it installed okay.. but then refused to boot to it
[03:24] <slyboots> It just loaded up XP and whistled a merry tune
[03:25] <Macros42> AnI, you can use partition magic in windows to convert from ntfs to fat
[03:25] <slyboots> No sign of lilo at all
[03:25] <Macros42> it's not risk free though
[03:25] <AnI> Marcros42 aye even partitionmagic is no good
[03:25] <Macros42> why?
[03:25] <AnI> maybe i need to kick windows too
[03:26] <viator> patrion majic?
[03:26] <viator> what for?
[03:26] <AnI> lol cuz y0u said its not risk free
[03:26] <AnI> lol
[03:26] <AnI> for converting ntfs to fat
[03:26] <Macros42> it's not - but I've never had a problem with it tbh
[03:26] <orbin> slyboots: ok...i think grub doesn't support gpt: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.parted.bugs/3967
[03:26] <chibiace> nothing is risk free
[03:26] <slyboots> ...
[03:26] <_ian> how come my windows partitions show up no files? when i open them
[03:26] <slyboots> Im not USING GPT o.o
[03:26] <SurfnKid> chibiace, very good point
[03:26] <slyboots> Its supposed to be in EXT3
[03:26] <johny5> iLikeSpoons, Thanks, it finally worked, just takes a bit as you said.
[03:26] <Lard-O-Lad> AnI: if you really want to write to NTFS with nix, try Paragon's NTFS for linux.  Its comercial, but there is some say its a bit "iffy"
[03:26] <spuddogg> i keep getting the same error when trying to run 'wine notepad.exe" and that is "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded." anyone know?
[03:26] <orbin> slyboots: ah, misread your earlier post sorry
[03:26] <iLikeSpoons> cool, johny5. Enjoy the game :P
[03:27] <slyboots> I dont even know what the hell EFIGPT is supposed to be o.o
[03:27] <AnI> kk thx for all the help
[03:27] <johny5> iLikeSpoons, thanks, but I spent too much time tinkering with it...now I have to do homework ;/
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> None of the partitioning editing modifying tools are risk free.  They are powerful tools which sometimes end up in the hands of fools..
[03:27] <AnI> im gonna use pm
[03:27] <Macros42> I've a feeling I'll be spending a lot of time here over the next while :D
[03:27] <AnI> and if not working then captive
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: we will be here
[03:27] <AnI> no way im paying im cheapo
[03:28] <slyboots> Sweet jesus I think my eyes are melting
[03:28] <viator> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[03:28] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, and that's the very reason :)
[03:28] <jturek> i am having problems with mysql-server
[03:28] <Macros42> AnI is now on his way to bittorrent :D
[03:28] <jturek> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld.
[03:28] <jturek> .
[03:28] <jturek> .
[03:28] <jturek> .
[03:28] <jturek> thats all it does
[03:28] <spuddogg> i keep getting the same error when trying to run 'wine notepad.exe" and that is "Application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded." anyone know?
[03:28] <iLikeSpoons> Jack_Sparrow - I have decided that, at least tonight, I don't need 3d acceleration. I'll stick with nv for the time being :P
[03:29] <sorush20> ho wdo I setup a home network ? is there a simple howto anywehre?
[03:29] <_azrael> spuddogg: I would reccomend switching to the official wine ubuntu repos (should have budgetdedicated in the server string) and seeing if the problem persists.
[03:29] <stritar> how can I auto-detect my new monitor(s) without redoing the whole xorg.conf using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> sorush20: what type of network, how many computers, what os's, router?
[03:29] <Macros42> iLikeSpoons, i thought you had an nvidia card
[03:29] <spuddogg> _azrael, im on there now, no one seems to know :(
[03:30] <iLikeSpoons> yeah, I got one today
[03:30] <iLikeSpoons> because I used to have an ati radeon 7000, which is kinda messy with xorg
[03:30] <chibiace> i hate samba iv never got it working properly
[03:30] <_azrael> spuddogg: wine --version for me?
[03:30] <Macros42> mine's a 9200 and it took a bit of work but it works now
[03:30] <Macros42> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.29
[03:31] <chibiace> i have intel 900 :(
[03:31] <Macros42> took a bit of messing with xorg.conf afterwards
[03:31] <spuddogg> _azrael 0.9.9
[03:31] <sorush20> Jack_Sparrow: home simple wireless, two computer, ubuntu obviously to start with, wireless WRT54G linksys
[03:31] <viator> dont steal partion majic just use one of the oss tools gparted or the conversiont ool in xp intself
[03:31] <Macros42> but it worked in the end
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless
[03:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:31] <viator> bb
[03:31] <slyboots> Woops..
[03:32] <chibiace> xorg.conf is one of the coolest files to mess with
[03:32] <Macros42> viator, I was told that too - i have PM on my windows box - but I believe it's built in in nix
[03:32] <ColonelPanic001> Has anyone ever used skype on Dapper successfully?
[03:32] <chibiace> me
[03:32] <viator> you can apt-get install gparted
[03:32] <Macros42> sorush20, I have that router - works fine
[03:32] <viator> or use the gparted livecd
[03:32] <viator> which comes in handy
[03:33] <Macros42> it's the card that needs to be set up properly
[03:33] <viator> brb
[03:33] <Macros42> ColonelPanic001, using it right now
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> ColonelPanic001: yes
[03:33] <chibiace> i need to find out how to boost my mic abit more i can hardly hear it on full volume :(
[03:34] <ColonelPanic001> I can use skype, but on 1.2 I have to restart it after virtually every call (OSS thing, I know), and the 1.3 beta very often just freezes my computer, seemingly completely. Can't even change virtual terminals.
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ColonelPanic001: Yep.. that is normal
[03:34] <amx> how does one get ugidd to work?
[03:34] <amx> I exported a directory with the options (rw,map_daemon)
[03:34] <AbortD> thanks for your help yesterday all i love ubuntu :D
[03:34] <ColonelPanic001> heh, I kind of meant "not screwing up every time" when I said "successfully". Should have clarified :\
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype > ColonelPanic001
[03:34] <Macros42> oh k I just use it for another version of multiplayer notepad tbh
[03:34] <sorush20> Macros42: I want to be able to setup the network , do I have to setup the card right or the router or some other program?
[03:35] <amx> and I installed ugidd on the client, but it doesn't seem to work...
[03:35] <Macros42> sorush20, both - but you need the wireless card installed in linux - what card is it?
[03:35] <techniq> could someone help me with a software raid (md) problem... I'm using the Raid utility on the text installer, all looks to go well but when I reboot after install, grub complains it cannot load the specified device (/dev/md0 I believe..) with an Error 17
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ColonelPanic001: That link explains the problem
[03:35] <Macros42> sorush20, the router is most likely ready to go anyway
[03:36] <techniq> I'm currently attempting another reinstall (I actually had to change media from 6.06.1 CD to 6.06 DVD due to a corrupt file libc6 file on the CD first time around, thought maybe mixing media may have caused a problem)
[03:36] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, I get that problem in windows but not in ubuntu
[03:36] <ColonelPanic001> yeah, I'm aware of the OSS thing. THat was the only reason I bothered to use the 1.3 beta
[03:36] <minerale> Hi, I'm absoltely devastated, I just rebooted and all the sudden I'm having trouble with the ubuntu installation. most notably I get 'read only' errors, I think the drive is mounted bad, how can  I go about troubleshooting ? Is there a tool fckdsk or something like that to check the integrity of the partitions?
[03:36] <Macros42> !skype
[03:36] <ColonelPanic001> but while it uses ALSA, it seems to have it's own major problems. Damn Skype.
[03:36] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:36] <techniq> I read where I may need to create a new initrd file with raid support, but not sure how I would go about that
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype > jack_sparrow
[03:37] <viator> skpe runs fine
[03:37] <viator> i have 1.3 beta
[03:37] <viator> its a little laggy
[03:37] <viator> but other than that
[03:37] <viator> its fine
[03:37] <minerale> I have booted into single user mode, but having trouble booting in normal mode, could someone help me troubleshoot, I beg
[03:37] <Macros42> i have whatever version automatix gave me :D
[03:37] <viator> maybe you can use ekiga
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> It is a common problem and the site shows the workaround
[03:38] <birdfish> What would be one of the best sftp servers for use with Ubuntu Server 6.06?
[03:38] <birdfish> I know that I can sftp through SSH
[03:38] <Macros42> oh that reminds me - if I Switch User Ubuntu dies completely - have to reboot. Any ideas without me getting the exact error :D
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: You are no longer my friend...   Automatix... arghhhhhh..  :)
[03:38] <birdfish> But I'd like to be able to create virtual users
[03:38] <viator> soon as skpe stops offering free calls how many ppl will still use it
[03:38] <viator> whens the dealine isnt it soon?
[03:38] <ColonelPanic001> viator, I won't be
[03:38] <birdfish> Not me
[03:38] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[03:38] <ColonelPanic001> not if I don't have to
[03:38] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, i don't actually like it either - 2 days using linux and I prefer Synaptic
[03:39] <birdfish> December 31
[03:39] <ColonelPanic001> Synaptic is nice
[03:39] <slyboots> I dont know, what the heck could be wrong with this?
[03:39] <chibiace> apt-get is nice
[03:39] <slyboots> I mean, I downloaded the Alteritve CD, it didnt help
[03:39] <birdfish> I like apt-get
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: But one you use it and go outside the repos, other odd problems can sometimes follow
[03:39] <Macros42> a friend referred me to automatix and I used it to install one or two things and hated it
[03:39] <birdfish> slyboots: what's the problem?
[03:39] <viator> automatix is just a script
[03:39] <chibiace> i like emerge better then apt-get it lets me do mutilple installs at the same time
[03:40] <Macros42> not a good one tho viator
[03:40] <nozorro> slyboots: you had other linux systems installed on it before?
[03:40] <slyboots> Yes, Im ON Ubunut now, just on a different system
[03:40] <birdfish> slyboots: then don't repeat it again.  I don't care ;)
[03:40] <Macros42> it's a monkey do monkey see script
[03:40] <fantasai> Is there a package for chinese language support that doesn't pull in translations?
[03:40] <michael> What command can you use to tell you how much bandwidth is being used on incoming and outgoing traffic?
[03:40] <slyboots> Oh sorry, Um.. No I never installed a linux system on the other machine before
[03:40] <slyboots> Okay..
[03:40] <ofer> sorry for asking again - but still having problems with the wireless usb card - don't know how to set it up that it will be recognized by ubuntu
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: NOt to worry, after your next install.. dont use it, by then you will be a pro and not need it
[03:40] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, lol
[03:41] <ColonelPanic001> fwiw, I don't see anything referencing the 1.3 beta on that link.
[03:41] <slyboots> Installed Ubunut, Tried Graphical and "Alterative" CD install.. it creates the partitions, copies over the files, but when it reaches the stage to install GRUB, it just falls over witha  undefined Error
[03:41] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, this is my third install in two days :D
[03:41] <birdfish> So anyone know of a good SFTP Server?
[03:41] <ColonelPanic001> Not trying to be a jerk, just saying
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ndiswrapper > ofer
[03:41] <Macros42> on the same machine :D
[03:41] <techniq> michael: you can look into 'nettop'
[03:41] <keleus> Got a strange question here:
[03:41] <chibiace> anybody know where to get a deb of the latest gossip
[03:41] <amx> anyone tried to setup NFS with ugidd on dapper?
[03:41] <keleus> trying to install a .deb manually (not in repos) but i noticed that it has the same package name as a legitimate package in the repos
[03:41] <viator> hahah
[03:41] <keleus> how do i change the package name used by a .deb file?
[03:41] <ColonelPanic001> birdfish, no, sorry
[03:41] <slyboots> Another unusual item I've seen is that when I look at the partition table in fdisk, instead of showing two partitions (EXT3 and SWAP) there is only one that is EPT GMP
[03:41] <viator> once you get the system setup the way you like it its fine
[03:41] <ofer> Jack_Sparrow: already did that but when putting the usb in it does not find the hardware
[03:41] <keleus> that way apt and/or dpkg doesnt get confused
[03:41] <birdfish> ColonelPanic001: okay, thanks for replying at least
[03:41] <bieb> is anyone running ubuntu on their server, loading only run level 3?
[03:42] <viator> this is *nix you dont have to reinstall to fix everything
[03:42] <ofer> Jack_Sparrow: already installed the driver
[03:42] <Macros42> who was it had the wrt54g?
[03:42] <ColonelPanic001> birdfish, don't take it personally. High traffic channel ettiquite usually means not flooding the channels with "not me".
[03:42] <slyboots> birdfish: Thats my problem o.o
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: :)  YEa, it is so easy to install you feel free to experiment, and learn and sometimes break it.
[03:42] <viator> if you can get to the cli you can fix it
[03:42] <chibiace> bieb: i think mine boots into x. it used to not work so well and needed t obe rebooted and since its working now i havent touched it
[03:43] <ofer> http://pastebin.ca/162033
[03:43] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, broke it earlier installing 3d accel - no reinstall - decided I had to fix it instead - learned a lot doing so
[03:43] <ofer> Jack_Sparrow: can you see the problem?
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42: NExt time you get it installed and set up, do one line in cli and tar yourself a full backup
[03:43] <Mike-X2> sittin her with a total new 6.06 intall just installed nvidia-glx and all i get when i try enable the config, is that X has been Altered ???????? HEEEELP me dont know what to do
[03:43] <bieb> I havent used Ubuntu, only edubuntu on my son's machine.. can I set the root password?
[03:43] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, and if I knew what that meant ... :D
[03:44] <chibiace> bieb: sudo passwd
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ofer: I am not your guy on wireless..
[03:44] <bieb> it seems to accept his user password for any of the updates that need root perms
[03:44] <Macros42> actually i did understand that
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > Macros42
[03:44] <slyboots> I guess that is a "No" then
[03:44] <viator> they are working on a cool backup for edgy i read
[03:44] <ofer> just need to know how to make the usb device recogized by ubuntu
[03:44] <viator> !backup
[03:44] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Macros42:   tar -cvpzlf /backup.tgz --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz /
[03:44] <thiago22> How can I install a GTK theme?
[03:44] <Macros42> Jack_Sparrow, i even understood that - scary
[03:44] <sorush20> Macros42: broadcom bcm4306
[03:44] <bieb> so the way edubuntu is set up is the user is "sudo" behind the scenes when root perms are needed?
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> thiago22: drag and drop the tar onto the theme manager
[03:45] <Macros42> sorush20, me too - let me get you a link
[03:45] <Mike-X2> sittin her with a total new 6.06 intall just installed nvidia-glx and all i get when i try enable the config, is that X has been Altered ???????? HEEEELP me dont know what to do
[03:45] <chibiace> bieb: you can just change the users groups to get rid of sudo i think?
[03:45] <Flannel> bieb: sudo isn't a user, it's a command
[03:45] <ofer> all docs are for PCMCIA card and my is usb one :(
[03:46] <thiago22> Jack_Sparrow: but it always says "Invalid filename".
[03:46] <viator> bcm4306 will work with the bcmxx
[03:46] <viator> i used to have onw
[03:46] <Mike-X2> NVIDIA_HEEELP needed
[03:46] <Flannel> bieb: what are you trying to accomplish?  Make him not able to use sudo? or what?
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> thiago22: many of the themes I found on gnome-look.org had that...
[03:46] <bieb> right, but if the only user on the system's password works when root perms are needed.. how is that happening?
[03:46] <nozorro> thiago22: you may have downloaded a them *engine* actually
[03:46] <Macros42> sorush20, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902
[03:47] <nozorro> thiago22: ... or a badly packaged theme
[03:47] <Macros42> that worked for me first time
[03:47] <thiago22> I always download on Gnome-look O.o
[03:47] <chibiace> bieb: a sudo group
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> thiago22: 2 in 10 or so... it depends on your system
[03:47] <Flannel> bieb: because he is in the sudoers group, ubuntu doesn't use a root user.  Any one who has the ability to can sudo something, and use their own password to get those permissions
[03:47] <bieb> chibiace.. thanks.. thats what I was trying to figure out
[03:47] <Flannel> !tell bieb about sudo
[03:47] <thiago22> I installed Sawfish and Metacity, but I don't where theses programs are installed in my PC. O.o
[03:47] <thiago22> *dont know
[03:48] <bieb> Flannel.. I know how to make a user a "sudoer"
[03:48] <PM^> i'm planning to install ubuntu 6.06 on a machine with an ati radeon x600 card. However, the installer will not properly start the graphical mode - I would need to install in text mode. Do you know of any way of adjusting the screen resolution / refresh rate from the installer cd?
[03:48] <bieb> wasnt sure how edubuntu was doing it on the fly
[03:48] <nozorro> thiago22: Sawfish and Metacity are mutually exclusive, and they are not themes
[03:48] <clearze1> how do you back up a partition?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> clearze1: The one ubuntu is on?
[03:49] <jacobmp92> PM^: on the boot CD, right when you boot up, theres a button on the buttom of the screen to change that. (F4)?
[03:49] <Flannel> bieb: edubuntu shouldn't be drastically different than any other *buntu when it comes to that
[03:49] <fuoco> is there any open-source java that i can use for having java in my browser working ?
[03:49] <sysdoc> Mike-X2, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper >use method 2
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !java > fuoco
[03:49] <Mike-X2> sysdoc thx m8
[03:49] <bieb> Flannel.. what I was saying is I am new to *buntu's.. and edubuntu is the only one I have installed so far
[03:49] <clearze1> yes
[03:49] <thiago22> nozorro: Hmm, and what should I download to get a GTK theme correctly? And where? I only know Gnome-Look :-(
[03:50] <sysdoc> np
[03:50] <viator> make sure you close your browser and reopen it
[03:50] <Flannel> bieb: right, read the page ubotu sent you, it explains it
[03:50] <viator> after installing
[03:50] <viator> java
[03:50] <nozorro> thiago22: art.gnome.org will give you many themes
[03:50] <bieb> send that again please Flannel
[03:50] <Mike-X2> ill have a look at it but have tryied almost everything nothing seems to work
[03:50] <viator> or it will seem to not work
[03:50] <yoshiznit123> thiago22, also take a look at deviantart
[03:50] <Flannel> !tell bieb about sudo
[03:50] <thiago22> nozorro: thank you
[03:50] <vapermonkey00> hey guys and gals what r some really cool game i can get on here
[03:51] <BotLobsta> hey, i was wondering if there was someway to change the things ubuntu does on startup
[03:51] <thiago22> yoshiznit123: thanks!
[03:51] <Macros42> what's the address of this server?
[03:51] <sysdoc> Mike-X2, use method 2, why suffer just because you know how?
[03:51] <clearze1> just the system files and package settings prefferably
[03:51] <nozorro> thiago22: sometimes themes require a theme engine, this should be mentioined on the corresponding page on art.gnome.org. theme engines need to be installed just like any other program
[03:51] <fuoco> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, but it says there's the free java which is installed by default - and i don't have it working in the browser, all the rest are non-open source
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> yoshiznit123: deviant art is way cool
[03:51] <PM^> i have downloaded 6.06 live cd for ubuntu. is it worth to download the new 6.06.1 cd instead? or can i use the older one and upgrade packages?
[03:51] <yoshiznit123> yea it is :-)
[03:51] <viator> you can stop modules from loading at startup change the upsplash change the gdm etc
[03:51] <bieb> Flannel.. my reason for looking deeper at *buntu is, I am getting ready to build an rsnapshot server, and trying to decide ubuntu, kubuntu or xbuntu
[03:51] <chibiace> deviantart was cooler before they starting trying to make money off ppl and this latest theme change is horrible
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> fuoco: Sorry but I dont know much about jave.
[03:52] <slyboots> I think, I am going mad
[03:52] <thiago22> nozorro:  and which engines are? It is Sawfish? Metacity?
[03:52] <Flannel> bieb: except for the GUI, they're identical.
[03:52] <BotLobsta> for example, how do i make it not configure the network interfaces because it always fails and ends up taking 2 mins just to do nothing
[03:52] <Wicked_> hey, so I need a bit of help, i seemed to have screwed up my xserver :/
[03:52] <yoshiznit123> thiago22, here's a link: http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/linuxutil/gnome/?order=9&alltime=yes
[03:52] <viator> fuoco i think you need a browser plugin
[03:52] <chibiace> PM^: the old one works fine. theres like 300mb of files though
[03:52] <Wicked_> I was trying to unstal XGL, and then my xserver died too
[03:53] <vapermonkey00> okay later
[03:53] <chibiace> PM^: well maybe abit less then that
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> kearones icons are really great on deviantart
[03:53] <thiago22> yoshiznit123:  thanks, i'll take  a look
[03:53] <fuoco> viator: yeah, i'm looking to know if there's an open source  one
[03:53] <PM^> chibiace: thanks
[03:53] <bieb> I was sorta leaning towards xbuntu, since it doesnt use a huge GUI, and the Gui is rarely if ever needed on rsnapshot
[03:53] <riko> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[03:53] <bieb> I have built rsnapshot on RH and SUSE before
[03:53] <PM^> jacobmp92: thanks for the info
[03:53] <Macros42> right that's me joined on another box - about to crash this one to get the exact error
[03:53] <Flannel> bieb: you can also install no GUI, get the alternate ISO, and type "server" at the bootprompt, it'll install the base system, without a GUI
[03:53] <nozorro> thiago22: these are both binary programs handling the windows. as i said, they're mutually exclusive. don't install sawfish if you are new to ubuntu though, this will give you many headaches. metacity is the default
[03:53] <NewpZ> how can i set gnome to detect that power button was hit and have linux shutdown?
[03:53] <Wicked_> anyone willing to direct me to something that can help?
[03:54] <bieb> Flannel.. cool
[03:54] <amarelinho> i am fron brazil
[03:54] <thiago22> nozorro: Oooh, I see. Thank you
[03:54] <amarelinho> not speak english very well
[03:54] <nozorro> thiago22: themes for metacity are available at art.gnome.org under Window Border
[03:54] <amarelinho> my englesh is very basic
[03:54] <Macros_42> Just pressed the red button and selected Switch User and the box has crashed
[03:55] <amarelinho> i need help about my ubuntu
[03:55] <Flannel> !br
[03:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:55] <riko> I can load ndiswrapper, when i do ndiswrapper -l it says driver loaded and hardware detected, i modprobe ndiswrapper and it doesn't do anything... then when i ifconfig wlan0 it says device not present
[03:55] <Macros_42> it's gone to a text screen - a few messages re: KDSETKEYCODE: No such device
[03:55] <bieb> Flannel.. can you drop me a chat request real quick, I would like to run down my rsnapshot idea and you can give alittle guidance
[03:55] <Macros_42> last line is Running local boot scripts
[03:55] <thiago22> nozorro:  thank you again. I'm gonna take a look at.
[03:56] <Macros_42> any ideas?
[03:56] <BotLobsta> riko - what does a iwconfig list as avaliable interfaces
[03:56] <irawan> amarelinho: just ask
[03:56] <Panzer> Hello :)
[03:56] <riko> BotLobsta: eth0 l0 and sit0
[03:56] <amarelinho> amy ubuntu is 5.04 and apt-get not work
[03:56] <irawan> amarelinho: what's your problem?
[03:57] <viator> try j2re1.4 - Blackdown Java  and j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[03:57] <Macros_42> jack_sparrow - this might be up your street :)
[03:57] <Panzer> Whens edgy released?
[03:57] <irawan> amarelinho: what do you want to do?
[03:57] <clearze1> !backup
[03:57] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[03:57] <BotLobsta> riko, did you do a depmod -a
[03:57] <jester45> does anyone have a soundblaster audigy???? does it work with out drivers
[03:57] <viator> dunno i always used the sun java
[03:57] <amarelinho> sudo apt-get update
[03:57] <BotLobsta> riko, before modprobing
[03:57] <gnomefreak> Panzer: late oct
[03:57] <amarelinho> a try this
[03:57] <Panzer> !edgy
[03:57] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:58] <Panzer> !schedule
[03:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:58] <gnomefreak> Panzer: for edgy quetions please ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:58] <riko> BotLobsta: that's what it said after and that no wireless devices were present... i have to reboot each time so is there anything i should try b4 i reboot?
[03:58] <viator> anyone who has flash i found a trick to make it so you can play flash 9 stuff
[03:58] <riko> BotLobsta: i mean like anything you recommend i should try once i reboot?
[03:58] <bruenig> chang the 7 to 9?
[03:58] <Macros_42> nobody seen this before then?
[03:59] <bruenig> change*
[03:59] <AbortD> is there a way i can convert my existing mp3s into ogg files?
[03:59] <irawan> amarelinho: ???
[03:59] <bruenig> !mp32ogg
[03:59] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-6 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:59] <viator> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/
[03:59] <Panzer> !tell
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <viator> there it is
[03:59] <kads> how do I link two folders
[03:59] <Panzer> how do you make it tell someone something?
[03:59] <minerale> anyone got a minute: i'm pretty desperate... my system will no longer boot, gdm keeps saying 'No serving host found' ... I see random errors about read only filesystem. I can boot fine into single user mode, ran fsck several times, I have no idea how to go about diagnosing this
[03:59] <haasteem> hi, i want to install openoffice 2.0.3 in breezy and have downloaded the .tar.gz... yet all are rpm's in there... is it safe to convert those to deb-files and then install with dpkg -i?
[03:59] <BotLobsta> riko, i know that for me, i had to change my /etc/modprobe/ndiswrapper to "alias eth1 ndiswrapper" because it listed it as eth1 as opposed to wlan0
[04:00] <Flannel> Panzer: !tell [person]  about [thing]  or !factoid > person
[04:00] <gnomefreak> Panzer: /msg ubotu bot
[04:00] <bruenig> I was right, just change the 7 to 9, victory for me
[04:00] <yoshiznit123> abortd, if you want to be 'l33t', do 'gst-launch filesrc location=music.mp3 ! mad ! vorbisenc ! filesink location=music.ogg ' :-)
[04:00] <Panzer> !tell JollyDrunkPirate about edgy
[04:00] <riko> hrmm, i did ndiswrapper -m which seemed to link it to wlan0
[04:00] <nozorro> haasteem: pls. install using the packaging system, not from the web
[04:00] <riko> but i'll check it out
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> haasteem: Looking for trouble trying to Alien Open Offoce from RPM's
[04:00] <amarelinho> iratsu,  a try sudo apt-get update.. get de list, but not install programs
[04:00] <AbortD> mp3'
[04:00] <gnomefreak> haasteem: you dont want to do that
[04:00] <AbortD> s
[04:00] <BotLobsta> riko, what chipset are you using
[04:00] <riko> wait, if it was eth1 wouldnt it show up in my networking list
[04:00] <AbortD> yoshiznit123: mp3s just wont play in these music players for me
[04:01] <riko> BotLobsta: dell 1390
[04:01] <Macros_42> is there a way to have numlock on automatically at the login screen?
[04:01] <nozorro> haasteem: ah, sorry, you're on breezy ...
[04:01] <AbortD> some plugin error
[04:01] <gnomefreak> haasteem: oo.o 2.0.3 on breezy is asking for trouble
[04:01] <irawan> amarelinho: to install program, you need apt-get install program_name
[04:01] <haasteem> gnomefreak: why is that?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> haasteem: if you upgrade to dapper it is in the dapper-proposed repos
[04:01] <amarelinho> iratsu,  yes
[04:01] <amarelinho> but not work
[04:01] <gnomefreak> haasteem: it needs things you dont have on breezy
[04:01] <haasteem> gnomefreak: so it isreally still edgy stuff?
[04:01] <haasteem> ok
[04:01] <amarelinho> irawan, moment
[04:02] <gnomefreak> haasteem: you can get it in dapper
[04:02] <irawan> what is the error message?
[04:02] <AbortD> yoshiznit123: is there a way i can do a mass amount of mp3s?
[04:02] <bruenig> !numlockx
[04:02] <ubotu> numlockx: enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:02] <haasteem> gnomefreak: right... crap, my upgrade to dapper failed a few weeks back...
[04:02] <DarkAudit> !joerg Schilling
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joerg Schilling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <chibiace> AbortD: did you see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <birdfish> Anyone know if the PureFTP package is compiled with TLS/SSL support?
[04:03] <AbortD> no
[04:03] <AbortD> whats wiki?
[04:03] <sorush4> Macros42: where what that link again?
[04:03] <haasteem> gnomefreak: some weird kernel incompatibility thing with my sound chip, while i do have the most nortmnal chipset ever...
[04:03] <DarkAudit> Will Ubuntu follow Debian's lead and pull his cdrtools in favor of one with a better license?
[04:03] <viator> minerale
[04:03] <chibiace> AbortD: that site tells you how to install the codec for mp3s
[04:03] <Macros_42> sorush4: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=wmp54g
[04:03] <viator> did you change gdm to login via xdmp
[04:03] <birdfish> Or how I could check
[04:03] <viator> xdmcp
[04:03] <AbortD> chibiace:  thanks
[04:04] <Celeste> hi
[04:04] <chibiace> AbortD: and some other useful stuff.
[04:04] <DarkAudit> !cdrecord
[04:04] <ubotu> cdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 547 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[04:05] <minerale> viator: I did not, but it's not just gdm having trouble, I don't get my regular terminals either
[04:05] <viator> what do you mean by regular terminals?
[04:05] <Celeste> Question:  When I want to  create a  "tar.gz"  file I act like this:  "tar zcvf archiv.tar.gz mydir/"        but  in this case, the tarball would also contain the directory "mydir"   -   I need to create a tarball which  contains the contents  (files, directories)   of  "mydir",   but not the directory  "mydir" itself as a visible directory
[04:05] <amx> why the hell doesn't exportfs recognize map_static as a valid option?
[04:05] <majhoul> Hi, I need to know how to copy to main of my DVD installation on the HDD, because i don't have a DVD on my server.
[04:07] <sorush4> Macros42: I have the card up and running but I need to now be able to access other computer on my network..
[04:07] <chesty> Celeste: cd mydir ; tar zcvf archiv.tar.gz *
[04:07] <sorush4> Macros42: that link I know how to do.. and its a little out of date cause not the bcm module is working for me so no need for ndiswrapper..
[04:07] <brentc> Hey, I have a friend who is having a real tough time finding decent software to burn and ubuntu ISO on Windows XP.  Are there ANY open source CD Burning programs on Windows?  I have no idea since I haven't been using Windows for a while..TIA!
[04:07] <Macros_42> sorush4: that's a shares issue then
[04:08] <Celeste> chesty: this will recursivly add the contents?
[04:08] <NickGarvey> !iso
[04:08] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:08] <AbortD> rhythm box wont open for me and i do not see totem
[04:08] <gubuntu> brentc, search sourceforge.net
[04:08] <NickGarvey> how do I make an ISO of a cd?
[04:08] <InnerFIRE> amarok doesnt detect my ipod..
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: isorecorder is free for xp
[04:08] <NickGarvey> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/location.iso I thought
[04:08] <InnerFIRE> is there something like gtkpod for kde?
[04:08] <Toaster54> Hello, could someone tell me why i can't have mutiple soundsources (like amarok and teamspeak) in ubuntu? when i run ts amarok refuses to play a soundfile
[04:08] <brentc> is it free as in speech?
[04:08] <NickGarvey> brentc: I don't think so
[04:08] <gubuntu> everything on sourceforge is i believe
[04:08] <chesty> Celeste: yeah, tar tzf archiv.tar.gz to check
[04:09] <brentc> that's really sad that nobody has done that yet
[04:09] <chibiace> sorush4: you should be able to right click a folder and go share, if you've got the network setup
[04:09] <brentc> no I mean isorecorder
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: NOt open source but free for all
[04:09] <Celeste> thank you chesty
[04:09] <brentc> not sourceforge stuff; I'll go look on sourceforge now
[04:09] <chibiace> AbortD: do they just not show up after you run them?
[04:10] <irawan> amarelinho: so, it's working?
[04:10] <AbortD> yeah but i clicked it a few more times and got it it wasnt working right for some reason yesterday i prolly asumed still after the reboot
[04:10] <amarelinho> iratsu, sorry
[04:10] <gubuntu> brentc, not sure but you could try using a free virtual drive to mount and iso and then do a disc to disc copy with whatever lame software came with the burner
[04:10] <amarelinho> yes
[04:10] <amarelinho> work
[04:10] <brentc> OK thanks guys...some opensource devs need to make an all-in-one utility that just does one thing: Burn a linux iso in XP
[04:10] <AbortD> it doesnt tell me how to install these plugins?
[04:10] <brentc> it's really really needed
[04:10] <amarelinho> irawan,  i remove # source list
[04:10] <gubuntu> talk is cheap, pick up a programming book
[04:10] <gubuntu> ;)
[04:10] <amarelinho> thanks for help me
[04:11] <irawan> no worries
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: Why reinvent the wheel..
[04:11] <chibiace> AbortD: sudo apt-get install mpg321 ?
[04:11] <brentc> If the wheel is open source, it seems worthy to me
[04:11] <AbortD> hm
[04:11] <InnerFIRE> hello!!! help with amarok
[04:11] <brentc> Right now everything is closed source
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: You have the tool you asked for.. free of charge, for use in windows...
[04:12] <NickGarvey> how would I use dd to copy a cd?
[04:12] <brentc> And my friend (who I can only contact through email) is a real beginner...there ought to be a good open source tools that does one thing only and walks him through it
[04:12] <AbortD> Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: Why does it need to be open source..
[04:13] <JollyDrunkPirate> because
[04:13] <gubuntu> brentc, you are confusing open source with free software
[04:13] <chibiace> AbortD: you might need to add repositories
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: It only does one thing. just like you ask, Install it, right click on an ISO and send to the burner
[04:13] <gubuntu> someone who needs something that dumbed down has no need for open source, if they are both free
[04:13] <AbortD> i enter this into the terminal correct?
[04:14] <brentc> Jack: because, if we really care about converting people and making it as painless as possible, why not?  It's not really reinventing the wheel, it's making the whole thing a 1-2 process for beginners
[04:14] <chibiace> AbortD: eh?
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: You are not making sense
[04:14] <gubuntu> lol
[04:14] <brentc> Sure I am
[04:14] <AbortD> fck if i know :(
[04:14] <brentc> lol
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: It is a 1 - 2 process...
[04:14] <amx> ahhhh... looks like there are two different nfs servers....
[04:14] <gubuntu> it is...
[04:14] <viator> there is free software to butn an iso
[04:14] <brentc> No it isn't
[04:14] <viator> in xp
[04:14] <sethk> brentc, I don't think there is any interest in converting people.
[04:14] <viator> ill get a link'
[04:15] <brentc> That's pathetic
[04:15] <brentc> and elitist
[04:15] <sethk> brentc, create a good o/s.  people will find it.
[04:15] <brentc> BS
[04:15] <sethk> brentc, no, it isn't either.
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: It is free,  what is a novice user going to do with an open source tool for an OS he is leaving behind
[04:15] <chibiace> AbortD: you do sudo apt-get.... in the terminal, and yyou can add universe and stuff in system > administation > software properties
[04:15] <gubuntu> brentc wants a prgram that will not only burn to iso but "know" what to burn through use of the force
[04:15] <brentc> You are telling me that all these people who are still on windows are on it becuase they choose to be?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:15] <gubuntu> yes
[04:15] <sethk> brentc, of course.
[04:15] <gubuntu> its called the business world
[04:16] <chibiace> some people dont know about linux
[04:16] <brentc> No gubuntu...I want an opensource program that will have one dialog: "Select linux ISO to burn..."
[04:16] <gubuntu> ...
[04:16] <sethk> brentc, the way things work in the open source world, if you want something, and it doesn't exist, you write it.
[04:16] <viator> http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[04:16] <gubuntu> how about right-click on iso, left click on burn?
[04:16] <brentc> Seth: my point exactly
[04:16] <chibiace> sethk: or you could hire a developer :P
[04:17] <brentc> I am thinking about doing that as a next project
[04:17] <Flannel> brentc: so... write something.  I imagine that'd take only a few minutes to write, giving a particular list of isos
[04:17] <sethk> chibiace, sure, you have have money.
[04:17] <sethk> brentc, I'd be happy to help you  with that if you are serious.
[04:17] <brentc> it's simple and it's really needed
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> gubuntu: You have used isorecorder eh...  two clicks and you are done
[04:17] <brentc> I really would appreciate that seth
[04:17] <sethk> brentc, not quite as simple as you might think, but certainly possible.
[04:17] <brentc> Yes, I know
[04:18] <TylerDurdener> hey, i just installed my ATI drivers, it seems to work fine, only when i do fglrxinfo, it shows its mesa instead of the card, why is that?
[04:18] <goofey> is enabling dri a "good" thing or "bad" thing?
[04:18] <sethk> brent, ok, I don't know your background, so I don't know whether you know the details or not.
[04:18] <brentc> It requires knowledge of hardware, which frankly I'm pretty ignorant of at this point
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Who is going to tell them WHICH linux to burn.... Oh no they would have to THINK.
[04:18] <sethk> goofey, neither, really.
[04:18] <chibiace> thinking is bad :P
[04:18] <gubuntu> tylerdurden, come to #ati
[04:18] <brentc> I don't at this point, but I will learn, it sounds interesting
[04:18] <sethk> brentc, I can help you with that part.  really, though, you can read files in /sys and determine what you need to know about the hardware
[04:19] <brentc> that's a good start, thanks
[04:19] <brentc> any info like that's good
[04:19] <chibiace> the cat command is your friend
[04:19] <goofey> sethk: would it effect 3d game performance, say doom3?
[04:19] <sethk> brentc, the lower level stuff exists, you would just be wrapping it, more or less.
[04:19] <sethk> goofey, if the game is written to take advantage of it, yes.  I'm not a gamer; I don't know which games use which techniques
[04:19] <Celeste> is there an FTP program which shows me the status how many  % or MB already have been transfered to the server by an upload?   I need to upload a 230 MB file and I will know how long it will still take until it is on the server
[04:20] <chibiace> dri is direct rendering isnt it
[04:20] <brentc> The problem is I don't know jack about NT
[04:20] <goofey> sethk: ok - thanks!
[04:20] <Runithard> Celeste, do a du -h filename
[04:20] <sethk> Celeste, sftp will do that for you.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc:  Install isorecorder, right click on any flavor of linux ISO and right click on burn... Tell me how much simpler you need it to be.
[04:20] <Runithard> dri = direct rendering interface
[04:20] <sethk> Runithard, no, he (she?) wants the transfer speed on the network, not the file size
[04:20] <brentc> Jack: You're missing the point
[04:20] <viator> you can get a free linux cd shipped
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc:  Install isorecorder, right click on any flavor of linux ISO and left click on burn... Tell me how much simpler you need it to be.
[04:20] <Celeste> Runithard  du -csh is better ... but what should that help me?
[04:20] <Celeste> sethk, thank you!
[04:20] <viator> of your favorite distro
[04:20] <viator> to anyone
[04:20] <brentc> Jack: you're missing the point
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: I think you are missing the point
[04:21] <goofey> Runithard: which means it uses a capability on the card is the software uses it, otherwise no effect (and hence no harm?)
[04:21] <viator> http://www.freelinuxdisk.org/
[04:21] <brentc> why, becuase you keep repeating yourself and I still disagree with you?
[04:21] <sethk> rather than talk about who is missing the point, why don't we talk about what the point is?
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> brentc: You are complaining about a program you have never seen or used.
[04:21] <viator> donate or contribute if you can
[04:21] <sethk> brentc, be more specific; what problem are you talking about solving?
[04:21] <brentc> actually i *have* used it
[04:21] <bruenig> the point must be defined before it can be missed
[04:22] <sethk> bruenig, metaphysics gives me a headache
[04:22] <sethk> :)
[04:22] <Celeste> sethk, does sftp work with every host?
[04:22] <brentc> making it open source, highly publicized, and a reference point for a bunch of distros to walkthrough new users with
[04:22] <sorush20> how do i access a network shared folder?
[04:22] <spyro_boy> hi
[04:22] <KwitcherBitchen> how do I bind a specific program to a specific internet interface, such as eth1
[04:22] <Celeste> sethk, Host key verification failed.
[04:22] <Celeste> Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer
[04:22] <sethk> Celeste, well, of course an sftp server has to be running on the other end.  but sftp servers are available for all the usual environments, including windows
[04:23] <brentc> And my initial questions was just a question btw, not really a complaint
[04:23] <spyro_boy> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79269 supposedly this page has information on the KM400 video DRI on ubuntu according to google, but I can't seem to get to that page.
[04:23] <sethk> Celeste, that might mean that the server isn't running at the other end.
[04:23] <chibiace> sorush20: places > network servers
[04:23] <sethk> Celeste, the error messages are poor, unfortunately.
[04:23] <gubuntu> lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:23] <spyro_boy> Can someone explain to me what that says on that page, or maybe screenshot the page?
[04:23] <AbortD> with the terminal do i need to be in the same directory as the rythm jukebox is in?
[04:23] <gubuntu> its not support related
[04:23] <KwitcherBitchen> how do I bind a specific program to a specific internet interface, such as eth1
[04:23] <Runithard> sftp is the best way to measure throughput.......... since it has a layer of compressions and encryption
[04:24] <nozorro> gubuntu: indeed :-)
[04:24] <Runithard> isn't rather
[04:24] <sethk> KwitcherBitchen, there is no general answer to that question.  be more specific about what you need to do.
[04:24] <chibiace> AbortD: no it looks in certain places for the binaries. like /usr/bin etc
[04:24] <Celeste> Are there also graphical FTP Clients which show me the actual status of the upload?
[04:24] <Runithard> gftp
[04:24] <KwitcherBitchen> sethk, I want to have two internet connections, and use eth0 for like webbrowsing
[04:24] <sethk> Runithard, no, but I think the question was how long will it take, not how quickly could it be done.
[04:24] <KwitcherBitchen> sethk, and torrents etc
[04:24] <AbortD> well it says that what they tell me to install does not exist
[04:24] <Runithard> Celeste, try apt-get install gftp
[04:24] <KwitcherBitchen> sethk, and another for other things
[04:24] <Runithard> gftp is great
[04:24] <chibiace> AbortD: ?
[04:24] <Runithard> it's like cuteftp
[04:25] <sethk> KwitcherBitchen, you could use iptables to route specific ports through your eth0, and the rest to eth1
[04:25] <dalani> anyone? how do I set up unbutu to activate internet connect on startup?
[04:25] <kaot> KwitcherBitchen: you'd probably want to use iptables for something like that.
[04:25] <Runithard> or something like that
[04:25] <AbortD> let me show you
[04:25] <gubuntu> dalani, what release?
[04:25] <dalani> 5.04
[04:25] <KwitcherBitchen> kaot, okay
[04:25] <AbortD> chibiace:  i will be back in a few i gotta pull dinner out
[04:25] <chibiace> AbortD: its all good.
[04:25] <gubuntu> i was gonna say its auto in 6.06
[04:25] <gubuntu> im kinda nubuntu
[04:26] <dalani> chucks! I know it can be done on 5.04
[04:26] <Runithard> delani......... your internet doesn't come up?
[04:26] <Runithard> delani, did you configure it using the gnome network applet?
[04:26] <chibiace> lol @ nubuntu
[04:26] <dalani> no I must type in root passwrd everytime to connect
[04:26] <Runithard> dalani: do you connect via ethernet?
[04:26] <dalani> yes I use Wvdial
[04:26] <dalani> phone dial up
[04:26] <Runithard> dialup access?
[04:27] <Runithard> aaaaahhhhhh
[04:27] <Runithard> ok
[04:27] <Runithard> chmod u+s the executable
[04:27] <gubuntu> whats dialup access?
[04:27] <chibiace> lol
[04:27] <Runithard> the it will run setuid root
[04:27] <Runithard> and you won't need to sudo it up
[04:27] <dalani> hold on terminal
[04:28] <Runithard> setuid is dangerous, but i'm assuming your on a single user system and security isnt a major issue
[04:28] <nsi> comp1
[04:28] <dalani> whats the chmod switch to list chmod
[04:28] <narciso> nanu
[04:29] <sethk> dalani, chmod --help
[04:29] <Runithard> ls -l
[04:29] <dalani> single yuser sure but waht about guest?
[04:29] <narciso> nanung lagyu mu!
[04:29] <Runithard> errrr ls -l to list current permissions
[04:29] <narciso> what is the capital of simbabwe
[04:29] <narciso> joyce
[04:29] <dalani> oh yeah -l
[04:30] <dalani> how Wvdial is an executable
[04:30] <Runithard> chmod u+s filename
[04:30] <pids> bakit
[04:30] <alfred> alam mo ba
[04:30] <Runithard> superuser setuid is chmod u+s filename, right fellas?
[04:30] <gubuntu> !setuid
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setuid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <dalani> chmod u+s Wvdial?
[04:31] <Runithard> yeah
[04:31] <Runithard> try that out
[04:31] <atoponce> wow. i made it!
[04:31] <alfredo> what
[04:32] <alfredo> pids
[04:32] <dalani> superuser setuid does what?
[04:32] <Runithard> make the process run as root
[04:32] <riko> can anyone help me get my ndiswrapper working?
[04:32] <Runithard> dalani, it makes it always root
[04:33] <Runithard> riko, ndiswrapper is cake
[04:33] <dalani> wvdial does already
[04:33] <riko> Runithard: well my cake doesn't work
[04:33] <britt> hey, I have a problem with xubuntu, grub plain wont work
[04:33] <kaot> lol riko
[04:33] <Runithard> riko: did you modprobe it in?
[04:33] <riko> yea i did, it gave me no errors
[04:33] <alfredo> knights of the blessed sacrament is an organization of young men bound together for the service of God through the priest or in any of his ministration of his priestly office.
[04:33] <gubuntu> !cake
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <riko> but when i ifconfig wlan0 it says device not present... ndiswrapper -l shows device is present
[04:33] <britt> and im in knoppix trying to use 'grub-install' and now its saying that /boot cant be found or its not a block device
[04:33] <ChronoAU> is there a program which acts like a software router in the ubuntu repos?
[04:34] <chibiace> riko: did you check dmesg?
[04:34] <riko> chibiace: no... what am i looking for?
[04:34] <Runithard> riko: its for broadcom?
[04:34] <chibiace> riko: ndiswrapper
[04:34] <kaot> riko: which chipset?
[04:34] <gubuntu> ChronoAU, if u find one, let me know, sounds awesome
[04:34] <riko> its a dell 1390, which is the broadcom
[04:34] <sethk> ChronoAU, the operating system itself routes.  there is no software needed
[04:34] <sethk> ChronoAU, it's just a matter of setting up routes and enabling packet forwarding
[04:34] <kaot> riko: yeh but which broadcom.
[04:34] <don_jr> say I have installed ubuntu again, in the xorg.conf it is trying to use the integrated video card, which I have shut off in the bios, how do I tell it to use the other card?
[04:35] <sethk> ChronoAU, there are howto docs around that will tell you how to do it
[04:35] <Runithard> riko: did you ndiswrapper -l
[04:35] <sethk> don_jr, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:35] <Runithard> rike: whats it say
[04:35] <ChronoAU> i know, but i'm looking for an easier option
[04:35] <sethk> don_jr, it will pick up the one that's enabled
[04:35] <sethk> ChronoAU, makes no sense.  you have to set routes in any router, so what could be easier?
[04:36] <riko> Runithard: says device is present and all is good
[04:36] <Runithard> riko: lsmod , is ndiswrapper in there?
[04:36] <don_jr> sethk I'll give that a shot and be back in a few.  In the 'recovery mode' I can't get to the terminal through irssi that I know of.
[04:36] <intrade> does ubuntu not  ask to make root password on install?
[04:36] <sethk> don_jr, probably not, you would have to use a text mode irc thing
[04:36] <nozorro> !root
[04:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:36] <sethk> intrade, depends on which installation options you choose
[04:36] <Runithard> riko: i'm using broadcom on my acer ferrari laptop right now :-)
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> intrade: no it does not.. use sudo, or gksudo for gui apps
[04:37] <sethk> intrade, people will tell you that there is something different about root in ubuntu, but it isn't true
[04:37] <Runithard> sudo passwd root
[04:37] <sethk> intrade, you can set the root password if you like
[04:37] <britt> so how can i use 'grub' to list the devices it will see, so i can fix my problem
[04:37] <viator> if you want your linux box to just be a router thats it then theres a few distros that make that very easy
[04:37] <Runithard> sudo is combersome
[04:37] <sethk> intrade, the expert mode install sets the root password.
[04:37] <viator> like smoothwall and ipcop
[04:37] <viator> etc
[04:37] <jestrzcap> is anyone else having issues connecting to the forums?
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Runithard: that option is depreciated here
[04:37] <chibiace> its much easier to su and do all your work
[04:37] <sethk> jestrzcap, they seem to have been up and down some over the last couple of days
[04:37] <riko> okay i gotta reboot my pc into linux so im wondering if there's some stuff i could try
[04:38] <jestrzcap> sethk, thanks
[04:38] <Runithard> riko: modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:38] <sethk> Jack_Sparrow, if that were true, the expert mode install would not set the root password.
[04:38] <Runithard> riko: then run iwconfig
[04:38] <ChronoAU> sethk, i want someting like what clarkconnect uses
[04:38] <riko> Runithard: i've done that... it doesn't say anything and iwconfig says nothing is detected on eth0, l0, or sit0
[04:38] <Runithard> riko: if it worked, iwconfig should show a device
[04:38] <chibiace> riko: dmesg | grep -i ndiswrapper
[04:38] <Runithard> riko: it says driver present hardware present?
[04:38] <brentc> if anyone is interested about the windows ISO burner debate from about 5 mins ago, I just wanted to poke in here and mention that cdrtools runs on windows under cygwin
[04:38] <sethk> ChronoAU, to me that makes things harder, but if you find it easier, then of course use it
[04:38] <riko> but ndiswrapper says the driver is loaded and hardware is present
[04:39] <kaot> riko: you did blacklist the bcm43xx kernel module, yes?
[04:39] <riko> kaot: no
[04:39] <Runithard> AAAAAAAA
[04:39] <Runithard> good point
[04:39] <sethk> brentc, that's true, although I think there are some things that don't work terribly well in windows.
[04:39] <kaot> well that may be an issue.
[04:39] <kaot> :\
[04:39] <Runithard> rmmod bcm43
[04:39] <Runithard> lsmod, look for the bcm module
[04:39] <brentc> hmm yeah I'll have to test it out
[04:39] <Runithard> on boot riko
[04:39] <Runithard> then rmmod it
[04:39] <riko> okay imma give it a short... thanks!
[04:40] <brentc> see you guys later and thanks again for the suggestions
[04:40] <Runithard> riko: then do modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:40] <intrade> ok and whats this line 34 missing in sources when you do apt-get update?
[04:40] <Runithard> riko: i forgot i had to do that
[04:40] <kaot> uh.  you don't actually have to reboot for this.
[04:40] <riko> okay imma give it a shot thxn
[04:40] <intrade> it says malformed line 34 source list
[04:40] <intrade> how do you renew the source list?
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[04:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:41] <viator> look into smoothwall
[04:41] <dalani> can internet connect be activated on ubuntu 5.04 startup?
[04:41] <intrade> ok Jack_Sparrow
[04:42] <chibiace> dalani: dialup?
[04:42] <spyro_boy> Hm..
[04:42] <spyro_boy> I've got quite a problem here with my video chipset.
[04:42] <chibiace> spyro_boy: ?
[04:42] <spyro_boy> Does Ubuntu Dapper come preinstalled with VIA Unichrome KM400 video DRI support?
[04:43] <Runithard> yuck........ VIA Unichrome, does that even do 3d in linux?
[04:43] <ChronoAU> sethk, what is the procedure called for routing packets by the os?
[04:43] <sethk> spyro_boy, that's a kernel question, all distros have the same kernel behavior
[04:43] <spyro_boy> Runithard, yes.
[04:43] <spyro_boy> sethk, oh.
[04:43] <dalani> yes dial up chibi
[04:43] <ivx> hey what is a photoshop equivlent for linux.. anything free
[04:43] <sethk> ChronoAU, you use sysctl -w to turn on ip forwarding.
[04:43] <kaot> ivx: gimp
[04:43] <Runithard> ivx: gimp
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> gimp
[04:43] <sethk> ChronoAU, if you are using ipv6 also, you have to turn it on for both ipv4 and ipv6
[04:43] <sethk> ChronoAU, for a router, especially at first, I'd turn off ipv6.
[04:43] <spyro_boy> I've heard that Ubuntu has some kind of package for it though.
[04:43] <ChronoAU> sehtk, ok thanks alot
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !gimp
[04:44] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[04:44] <sethk> ChronoAU, get everything working, and then if you want to support ipv6 turn it back on and configure for ipv6.
[04:44] <britt> how do i install grub simply to the boot sector of x device\
[04:44] <ivx> kaot, runithard: can it do all the same stuff? is it powerful?
[04:44] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I need help with playing DVDs in Ubuntu
[04:44] <britt> thats all i need to know?
[04:44] <TigerCR1200> Is there a GUI partitioner for gnome?
[04:44] <jdsbluedevl> and yes, I have the required libraries installed
[04:44] <ChronoAU> sethk, ok thanks for your help
[04:44] <Runithard> ivx: it's a great product
[04:44] <jdsbluedevl> problem is, Totem (or any other program for that matter) doesn't see them
[04:44] <sethk> britt, there are two ways.  you can use the grub utility, and specify the root partition and the boot device interactively.  or, you can use grub-install
[04:45] <nozorro> spyro_boy: http://unichrome.sf.net
[04:45] <Runithard> ivx: i wouldnt say its a 1:1 , but maybe a 3039803948:847938475934875
[04:45] <sethk> britt, grub-install takes one argument, the boot device
[04:45] <kaot> ivx: depends on who you ask.  some swear it's equal to pshop.  Others say it isn't.  But, it's free.
[04:45] <chibiace> jdsbluedevl: encription?
[04:45] <spyro_boy> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=via+unichrome+KM400+%2Bslackware&btnG=Search&meta= O_o?
[04:45] <dalani> again: can internet connect be activated on ubuntu 5.04 startup?
[04:45] <fuoco> has anyone ever tried gcjwebplugin ?
[04:45] <spyro_boy> Ayway
[04:45] <spyro_boy> ignore that.
[04:45] <ivx> kaot, runithard: thanks free is a good price
[04:45] <sethk> ivx, I use gimp extensively for photography, and I find that it works very well
[04:45] <jdsbluedevl> where would I find where the encryption is?
[04:45] <spyro_boy> Thanks nozorro
[04:45] <sethk> ivx, I only go back to windows for the printer drivers
[04:45] <kaot> jdsbluedevl: you probably need libdvdcss
[04:45] <britt> sethk: doesnt work. gives me a error "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[04:46] <jdsbluedevl> I have libdvdcss2
[04:46] <sethk> britt, what argument did you use?
[04:46] <ivx> sethk: thanks
[04:46] <jdsbluedevl> I thought you meant on the DVD
[04:46] <britt> sethk: /dev/hda1 (the / partition) ive also used hd(0,0)
[04:46] <chibiace> that is on the dvd
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ivx: gimp is in the repos
[04:46] <TigerCR1200> nm I found it.
[04:46] <sethk> britt, /dev/hda1 is not a device, it's a partition
[04:46] <don_jr> sethk Okay I did that and put in what was needed and tried to 'startx' and it came up telling me there was no vesa device located.  "no screens"
[04:46] <sethk> britt, you install grub to a device (in this case /dev/hda)
[04:46] <jdsbluedevl> Totem, Kaffeine, and any other media player can't find the libraries, though
[04:47] <ivx> jack_sparrow: thanks i was about to download it from gimp.org
[04:47] <sethk> don_jr, you went all the way through the reconfigure and then it told you that when you restarted?
[04:47] <chibiace> jdsbluedevl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats read this? it might help
[04:47] <britt> sethk: same error when trying to put on /dev/hda
[04:47] <sethk> ivx, use the one from the repos.  installing the source is difficult
[04:47] <Awesome-o2000> I installed apache2 and when I access my web server, I get a dir and not the welcome to apache page :( can anyone help me with this?
[04:47] <britt> I just need this thing on my boot sector, and its pissing me off that it wont work
[04:47] <sethk> britt, I have no way of knowing what your devices actually are.
[04:47] <britt> sethk: how can i solve that for you?
[04:47] <don_jr> sethk No, when I restarted it hung up again, so I went back to recovery mode and tried to startx from there so I could check the log files and that's what it told me.
[04:48] <sethk> britt, possibly you have a separate /boot partition.  your menu.lst file may be wrong
[04:48] <britt> sethk: /dev/hda1 is / and swap  is /dev/hda5
[04:48] <chibiace> Awesome-o2000: where does it point to? /var/www ?
[04:48] <sethk> britt, swap we don't care about.
[04:48] <Awesome-o2000> chibiace, how do I check?
[04:48] <sethk> britt, put your menu.lst file on the paste bot, and we'll see what's going on.
[04:48] <britt> sethk: all in one partition, i tried it first with a seperate boot partition
[04:48] <ivx> sethk: thanks almost got it installed
[04:48] <britt> sethk: whats teh paste bot?
[04:48] <sethk> don_jr, until you complete the reconfigure, of course it won't work.  retrying it before you successfully reconfigure is only going to add confusion.
[04:48] <Flannel> Awesome-o2000: ubuntu disables the welcome to apache page, if I remember correctly.
[04:48] <chibiace> Awesome-o2000: its probably in the config file in /etc/apache2 but you could make some html files in /var/www and see if it reads it
[04:48] <jdsbluedevl> hold on, I just saw something about downgrading to libdvdcss from libdvdcss2
[04:49] <sethk> britt, a web site for pasting stuff.  the URL is in the channel topic
[04:49] <jdsbluedevl> let me see if that's it
[04:49] <don_jr> sethk I redid the configuration as you told me, restarted the computer and it hung up on me, so I had to shut it down and come back into recover mode.
[04:49] <zebedee> morning all just a quicky how do you format an ex pc floppy disk for use with ubuntu
[04:49] <jdsbluedevl> I'm hoping it is, but I'm kinda hoping it isn't, b/c that means the current versions of the media players on the repositories are behind
[04:49] <sethk> don_jr, you have to investigate, then, why it hung.
[04:49] <britt> sethk: so it doesnt matter if grub is installed to the MBR or not, it'll still work?
[04:50] <sethk> britt, you lost me.  what will still work?
[04:50] <britt> if everything is config'd correctly
[04:50] <nozorro> zebedee: Applications > System Tools > Floppy Formatter
[04:50] <don_jr> sethk where should I check?  What log file?
[04:50] <drakus> Hello.  Looking for answer to using wireless LAN card XI-325HP+ with Dapper & AMD64...
[04:50] <Awesome-o2000> yeah it does it to /var/www and shows the dir contents instead of going into the apache-default folder and displaying the default
[04:50] <britt> sethk: grub, it doesnt load at all. Just blank, like i have *nothing* on it
[04:50] <sorush20> Telroth: I'm using two computer, but i still can't acceass
[04:50] <sethk> britt, I always install grub to the mbr.  theoretically it will work the other way, but that introduces a variable because who knows what's on your mbr, if grub isn't?
[04:50] <Awesome-o2000> not to mention Im not sure I like having the dir access open like that
[04:50] <Flannel> Awesome-o2000: that's correct.  the redirect directive is commented out if I remember.
[04:50] <sethk> britt, possibly you have nothing on it.  that would explain it behaving that way  :)
[04:50] <Awesome-o2000> Flannel, nice - where can I find that comment
[04:51] <sethk> don_jr, if you are lucky you may find messages in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[04:51] <sethk> don_jr, that may tell you what went wrong.
[04:51] <don_jr> sethk I'll check, thanx
[04:51] <sethk> don_jr, but it sounds like you have a more fundamental problem than just X.  possibly.
[04:51] <britt> sethk: but what would explain me being able to use the xubuntu rescue mode to actually login to that shell on that partition
[04:51] <jesuistamere> dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[04:51] <sethk> britt, yes, definitely.
[04:51] <Flannel> Awesome-o2000: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default then... a few lines down, you'll see it
[04:51] <zebedee> thanks but button not there?? is it downloadable?
[04:51] <britt> one woudl think i wouldnt be near as successful if there werent anythign on it
[04:51] <jesuistamere> HEY N1 CAN HELP ME I GOT A PBLEM
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <LoRez> Warning: `jesuistamere' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:51] <Flannel> !ops
[04:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:51] <viator> kick that dude
[04:51] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:52] <nozorro> jesuistamere: stop this
[04:52] <sethk> britt, if you can get to the grub promp, use the CONFIGFILE grub command to load the configuration file from hda, then you'll know that the problem is in the mbr
[04:52] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:52] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:52] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:52] <alfredo> kagulo yooo
[04:52] <jesuistamere> SO U HELP ME
[04:52] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[04:52] <auk> what's teh point of !ops anyway?
[04:52] <Awesome-o2000> Flannel, thank you - now how can I turn off the dir being viewable
[04:52] <sethk> Hobbsee, hey, if it weren't for people like that, you ops would be out of a job  :)
[04:52] <riko> im back it still doesn't work!
[04:52] <sethk> auk, to let an op know that there is a problem
[04:52] <Hobbsee> sethk: heh.  i still have other stuff to do :P
[04:53] <sethk> auk, it presumably makes noises on their desktops
[04:53] <riko> dmesg says that it couldn't load the driver and to check system logs for loadndis
[04:53] <TylerDurdener> hey, im trying to install UT2K4 but I can't launch the installer, it says I don't have permission, how can i start the install?
[04:53] <riko> i checked it just said it couldnt load the driver
[04:53] <Hobbsee> auk: it pings us, the ops, and flashes and makes a sound.
[04:53] <auk> sethk, made a pign on my desktop :)
[04:53] <auk> *ping
[04:53] <Awesome-o2000> wait a min, brb
[04:53] <britt> sethk: what do i need to send you, config.lst?
[04:53] <Awesome-o2000> no need to be using a livecd now that I dont need to install gentoo
[04:53] <riko> kaot: I tried to rmmod bcm43 but it wasn't there... i lsmod | grep bcm and didn't have anytrhing loaded
[04:53] <Awesome-o2000> I still might install it though
[04:53] <sethk> britt, /boot/grub/menu.lst (there is also often a link called /boot/grub/grub.conf; both are the same)
[04:54] <jdsbluedevl> here's the error message I'm still getting: The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[04:54] <Awesome-o2000> anyhow brb
[04:54] <britt> sethk: un momento
[04:54] <jdsbluedevl> and yet I DO have libdvdcss
[04:54] <sethk> britt, with that, and the grub utility, we can install grub and also validate the configuration file.
[04:54] <Flannel> Awesome-o2000: you could ask in #apache to be sure, but I believe its the "Indexes" a few lines above that.  remove Indexes from that line and you dont get directory indexes
[04:54] <britt> sethk: :) sounds good to me
[04:56] <riko> is anyone still here that was helping me b4?
[04:56] <sorush20> Telroth: are you gone?
[04:56] <chibiace> :(
[04:56] <Telroth> sorush20: close to it
[04:57] <Telroth> i have homework i have to do
[04:57] <sorush20> here is what I do fish://ip address than nothing happens..
[04:57] <sethk> britt, if I'm not here, I'll be back.  I'm doing some multitasking here.
[04:57] <sorush20> Telroth: what is your homework biology stuff cause I can help
[04:57] <Eleaf> what's the apt-get command to download a packages development dependencies? ;p
[04:57] <britt> sethk: ok. im opening the file now
[04:57] <Telroth> physics, calculus ab, ap us history
[04:58] <Telroth> ap english III
[04:58] <viator> jdsbluedevl using totem-xine
[04:58] <sorush20> I guess I hate those Telroth
[04:58] <viator> ?
[04:58] <TylerDurdener> im trying to install UT2K4 from the cd, i used sudo linux-installer.sh yet it still says i dont have permission to do that, how can i fix it?
[04:58] <britt> sethk: http://pastebot.nd.edu/421
[04:59] <Telroth> sorush20: are you using the actual ip address like "fish://192.168.1.100" ?
[04:59] <drakus> Looking for answer to using wireless LAN card XI-325HP+ with Dapper & AMD64
[05:00] <chibiace> lol thats my laptops local ip
[05:00] <Telroth> drakus: used google yet?
[05:00] <drakus> yes
[05:00] <Lazarus^> elo...
[05:00] <Lazarus^> ummm...
[05:00] <Telroth> chibiace: it's also the starting ip that most routers on the 192.168.* subnet start assigning ips at
[05:00] <britt> yearns
[05:00] <Lazarus^> how do I use cron in executing an SH command?
[05:00] <Lazarus^> oops
[05:00] <Lazarus^> SH file
[05:01] <chibiace> we set all our computers up starting from 2
[05:01] <chibiace> dhcp sucks
[05:01] <Telroth> use the command "./<shfile>" or "sh <shfile>"
[05:01] <sethk> britt, if the file is correct, run   sudo grub
[05:01] <britt> sethk: done, im at the grub prompt
[05:01] <Telroth> anyways, night all!
[05:01] <britt> it looks good man, real good
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Night
[05:02] <sethk> britt, ok, enter at the grub prompt:     root (hd0,0)      that's root space (hd0,0)
[05:02] <sethk> britt, it's picky about the spaces, only one space, between the t of root and (
[05:02] <britt> okay
[05:02] <britt> i got some good stuff
[05:02] <sethk> britt, it should print a line saying the type of the file system, probably ext3
[05:02] <britt> all true
[05:02] <britt> yep
[05:02] <sethk> britt, ok, now do:    setup (hd0)
[05:03] <usli> hi
[05:03] <britt> more good things :)
[05:03] <usli> is there a program to open a visio file in ubuntu?
[05:03] <sethk> britt,  it should print a bunch of lines, and say "success" (or words to that effect) at the end
[05:03] <sethk> britt, you are done
[05:03] <sethk> britt, quit out of grub
[05:03] <britt> wow
[05:03] <britt> cool
[05:03] <britt> now reboot?
[05:03] <sethk> britt, well, let's make sure it really works.  yes, reboot
[05:03] <usli> guys
[05:03] <britt> ok brb
[05:04] <britt> thanks man if i dont get to see you
[05:04] <usli> help please
[05:04] <britt> i owe you like a cyber-beer or three
[05:04] <britt> brb
[05:04] <usli> help...
[05:04] <usli> anyone ?
[05:04] <Some_Person> ubuntu fucking rocks!!!!!!!!!
[05:05] <usli> is there a program in ubuntu to open a visio file?
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[05:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:05] <DBO> Some_Person, we agree, but less on the swearing please brother =)
[05:05] <viator> heheh
[05:05] <Some_Person> ok, sorry
[05:05] <Some_Person> i just absolutely love ubuntu
[05:05] <don_jr> sethk I got it, thank you for your help.  I had input the PCI path incorrectly, I manually changed it in the xorg.conf file and I"m on gnome now!
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person:  But yes, we think it is very cool.
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: As a new user did you have any questions?
[05:06] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:06] <gubuntu> usil, there is Dia, very similar to visio (http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/), but i dont think it can open a visio file,
[05:06] <RobNyc_C> OSX needs a little more speed like Linux has :-p
[05:06] <gubuntu> sorry
 Windows needs everything Linux and OSX has
[05:06] <Some_Person> i've been using it since may
 Linux is for geeks or something =]  .. Hot Chicks like OSX because they are getting annoyed by Window
[05:06] <usli> Jack_Sparrow: do u know a program to open a visio in ubuntu?
[05:06] <Lazarus^> cron: can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid: Permission denied   <-- I get this! What Should I do?
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> no sorry
[05:07] <viator> i think shttleworth should pay some of the ppl in irc the free support is better than anything youd get from MS
[05:07] <Some_Person> i started with breezy, and they went to dapper
[05:07] <Eleaf> RobNyc_C, lol
[05:07] <don_jr> !nvidia
[05:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !visio
[05:07] <Lazarus^> I ran cron
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <gubuntu> Lazarus^, sudo?
[05:07] <Eleaf> Locke, yes
[05:07] <Some_Person> !mp3
[05:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <usli> gubuntu: yap.. i've install it, but it cant open it
[05:07] <Lazarus^> new error
[05:07] <Lazarus^> cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 4882: Resource temporarily unavailable <--now I get this
[05:08] <Some_Person> i wish ubuntu came with a decent WMP-type media player though (totem sucks)
[05:08] <gubuntu> Some_person. vlc
[05:08] <gubuntu> !vlc
[05:08] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:08] <viator> kill that pid
[05:09] <scunizi> Hi all .. Anyone else having Tomboy issues?
[05:09] <Some_Person> okay, i'll try vlc
[05:09] <gubuntu> vlc is godly
[05:09] <iratsu> does using a swapfile instead of a swap partition reduce linux's performance by a lot?
[05:09] <gubuntu> i havent had a media file vlc couldnt play
[05:09] <usli> ok
[05:09] <usli> how to go to a share windows pc
[05:09] <usli> i'm using ubuntu
[05:10] <don_jr> how do I find out what kernel I'm running?
[05:10] <usli> but the computer that i want to acc is using windows
[05:10] <gubuntu> usil.
[05:10] <gubuntu> !samba
[05:10] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:10] <Some_Person> files i want to be able to play: mp3 wma wmv asx
[05:10] <viator> uname -a don
[05:10] <gubuntu> vlc can handle those
[05:10] <Lazarus^> 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * root sh /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/dyndns_update.sh   <-- is my syntax correct?
[05:10] <usli> gubuntu: thanks
[05:10] <atoponce> can ubuntu be installed on a via-chipset system? via is an x86-based os, no?
[05:11] <Some_Person> and theres a radio station i like that has a filename of reflector:somenumber, can it play that?
[05:11] <atoponce> s/os/cpu/
[05:11] <don_jr> What is the command to find out what version of kernel I'm running please?
[05:11] <JoseStefan> atoponce, it can
[05:11] <sethk> atoponce, via makes a lot of chips, but by and large, that's correct
[05:11] <viator> din_jr uname -a
[05:11] <JoseStefan> don_jr, uname -a
[05:11] <atoponce> don_jr: uname -r
[05:11] <gubuntu> most liekly
[05:11] <sethk> don_jr, uname -a
[05:11] <pestilence> in breezy, my touchpad would scroll when i dragged down the right side of it...in dapper it no longer does this.  how do i get this back?
[05:11] <don_jr> Thank you all
[05:11] <JoseStefan> lol
[05:11] <sethk> don_jr, or uname -r
[05:11] <JoseStefan> i win
[05:11] <gubuntu> vlc is actually most used for streaming media
[05:11] <AbortD> ubotu: where can i find banshee and those ones you listed?
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where can i find banshee and those ones you listed? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <viator> uh uh scroll up :P
[05:12] <AbortD> ooo
[05:12] <atoponce> JoseStefan: sethk: that's what i thought, but i sure am having a heck of a time getting ubuntu-server installed... :(
[05:12] <gubuntu> !banchee
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about banchee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <gubuntu> !banchee
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about banchee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <gubuntu> erm..
[05:12] <viator> shee
[05:12] <AbortD> !banshee
[05:12] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:12] <AbortD> :P
[05:12] <sethk> atoponce, we'll try to help if you have specific questions
[05:12] <Some_Person> and i wish my modem had a free linux driver, but i guess i'll have to fork out $20 *sighs* not easy for 12 year olds
[05:12] <AbortD> !codecs
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <chibiace> AbortD: have you added the universe and multiverse repositories?
[05:13] <viator> if they mixed amarok with like mplaye
[05:13] <AbortD> i have no clue how to do that
[05:13] <sethk> Some_Person, you can probably buy a used modem for less than that
[05:13] <viator> that would be like winndows media player
[05:13] <sethk> Some_Person, I've seen modems for $5, these days.
[05:13] <gubuntu> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[05:13] <AbortD> asking me that question is like asking if i can rip a tear in the space time continuum
[05:13] <chibiace> AbortD: system > administration > software properties
[05:14] <sethk> AbortD, can you rip a tear in the space time continuum?
[05:14] <AbortD> sethk: yes i can :D
[05:14] <Some_Person> my modem driver (its a conexant modem) for linux costs $20, but its windows driver is free (how funny since linux is a free os and windows isn't)
[05:14] <AbortD> chibiace: i'm there now what
[05:14] <sethk> Some_Person, $20 sold by whom?
[05:14] <Some_Person> Linuxant
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Some_Person,  save your $$ and go buy a new modem.
[05:15] <viator> dud that driver is free
[05:15] <Some_Person> Linux division of Conexant
[05:15] <viator> hes talking about the driver loader
[05:15] <sethk> Some_Person, they probably took the free driver off the web, put it on a cd, and charge you $20
[05:15] <Some_Person> its free if you can bear with 14.4kbps
[05:15] <kewagi> how can I convice dapper to start the loopback interface upon boot?
[05:15] <chibiace> AbortD: add
[05:15] <Some_Person> otherwise you have to give them $20 and you get a license key
[05:15] <pestilence> kewagi: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:15] <pestilence> kewagi: auto lo
[05:15] <AbortD> chibiace: ok...
[05:15] <sethk> kewagi, loopback isn't "started"
[05:15] <kewagi> pestilence: thanks :)
[05:15] <viator> id het a zoom modem or somthing
[05:15] <AbortD> OHHHHHH
[05:16] <kewagi> sethk: i meant "lo up" :)
[05:16] <AbortD> the universe and multiverse
[05:16] <chibiace> AbortD: and tick those last two, then apt should find those things
[05:16] <sethk> kewagi, it isn't a service or a program, it's a kernel capability
[05:16] <don_jr> Got it all up and running, thank you all for the help.  I got Ubuntu running again and have my nvidia drivers installed and working properly!
[05:16] <kewagi> sethk: you're right of course.
[05:16] <sethk> kewagi, I was thinking more generically
[05:16] <jarrod_> hey what repository can I grab gmake from?
[05:16] <britt> sethk: it worked, thanks man
[05:16] <AbortD> what should i have in the channel tag?
[05:16] <silent_scream> how can i creare a link to "my documents"(window)  file ???
[05:16] <sethk> britt, np, something worked tonight  :)
[05:17] <jarrod_> silent_scream: man  ln
[05:17] <chibiace> AbortD: ubuntu 6.06 lts ?
[05:17] <don_jr> Now, is there a way I can download 1 package and get all I need to put KDE up and running?
[05:17] <AbortD> k
[05:17] <britt> i appreciate it, you people are the main reason I switched to open-source OSs
[05:17] <usli> gubuntu: the samba for sharing from ubuntu to windows
[05:17] <britt> Dapper looks great BTW
[05:17] <sethk> don_jr, there is a kde meta-package, I think it is kde-desktop
[05:17] <pestilence> don_jr: kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <AbortD> i hit add and nothing noticable happened
[05:17] <silent_scream> and how can i change my ip? i have dynamic ip!
[05:17] <usli> what i want it from my ubuntu, i want to get a file from a windows pc
[05:17] <viator> yeah kde-Desktop
[05:17] <Some_Person> Is the smart link driver for linux free (i got an old smart link modem that still works i salvaged from a fried computer)
[05:17] <don_jr> sethk I'll try that.  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then?
[05:17] <viator> kubuntu
[05:17] <viator> whoops
[05:17] <jarrod_> silent_scream: google search for mac spoofing
[05:17] <pestilence> don_jr: use aptitude
[05:17] <chibiace> AbortD: click close now. it should ask you to refresh or something
[05:18] <pestilence> don_jr: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:18] <don_jr> pestilence thank you
[05:18] <AbortD> reload?
[05:18] <pestilence> it's a little smarter.
[05:18] <sethk> don_jr, easier to use one of the supervisor programs.  but   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is ok too
[05:18] <chibiace> AbortD: yeh
[05:18] <jarrod_> silent_scream: then /etc/init.d/network restart
[05:18] <silent_scream> isn't there any command?
[05:18] <AbortD> so it should just update everything i need now or?
[05:18] <chibiace> AbortD: it runs apt-get update.
[05:18] <RedRose> /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD -- I want to modify the birghtness level and It says it can't write, how do I?
[05:18] <jarrod_> silent_scream: yes there is but telling you would not help you it would only allow you to rely on others for answers, dig and be satisfied  with your good work :)
[05:18] <sethk> silent_scream, you can take your interface down and bring it up again, that will make it query for a new dynamic ip
[05:19] <don_jr> Bah, what is the command to change the root password again?
[05:19] <chibiace> AbortD: you should be able to install those things you said it couldnt find
[05:19] <don_jr> I have to do this every time I re-install.
[05:19] <sethk> silent_scream, that's the easiest way.
[05:19] <jarrod_> silent_scream: or maybe your lease is up and you can restart dhclient
[05:19] <sethk> don_jr, sudo passwd
[05:19] <jarrod_> silent_scream: or yeah listen to seth
[05:19] <don_jr> I should remember that by now
[05:19] <don_jr> sethk thanx
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  if you dont know.. then ya dont know enough linux to handle that POWER! :P
[05:19] <viator> RedRose did you use sudo?
[05:19] <RedRose> yes
[05:19] <sethk> jarrod_, your answer is more correct but I figured he'd have more success the other way.  :)
[05:19] <RedRose> i am root
[05:19] <sethk> no, _I'm_ root
[05:19] <silent_scream> so just disconnect and connect again?
[05:20] <viator> chmod?
[05:20] <RedRose> viator, I get echo: write error: Invalid argument as an error
[05:20] <don_jr> Dr_Willis I'm the first to admit that! lol this is my first linux system I've ever used and I just reinstalled today to take windows off this box completely, give me the credit fo trying! :P
[05:20] <jarrod_> sethk: eh, yeah I came from a different distro so I am used to doing things the hard way hahaa
[05:20] <sethk> silent_scream, bring up your network configuration dialog, disable the interface, and then enable it again
[05:20] <RedRose> viator, yes
[05:20] <AbortD> thanks :D
[05:20] <AbortD> chibiace: yer great
[05:20] <pestilence> don_jr: the problem with setting the root password is that you will be tempted to log in as root, which you shouldn't do.
[05:20] <sethk> jarrod_, the hard way is usually easier
[05:21] <don_jr> pestilence I won't do that.  I use sudo when/if I have to, I don't do anything as root, I know nothing about linux enough to want to try.  I appriciate and understand the warning.
[05:21] <don_jr> I work on windows computers all day long, I'm the last one to do anything to goof up a computer, I'm the one people around here call to fix it when they do! lol
[05:21] <silent_scream> sethk,  i am not using a router, just an adsl modem! the easiest way is to unplug and replug the telephone cable, but i would like to know if there is any command for this :D
[05:22] <sethk> silent_scream, an adsl modem is a router
[05:22] <malar> i can't access my sony DSC-S600 pictures directly. is there any patch or setup required?
[05:22] <AbortD> chibiace: still cant find some of it?
[05:22] <pestilence> don_jr: ok ;)  then don't sudo passwd....just use sudo to run commands as needed.  sudo -s if you really need a shell
[05:22] <sethk> AbortD, shouldn't be, it should look like a USB drive
[05:22] <AbortD> sethk: usb drive?
[05:22] <chibiace> AbortD: mpg321 should give you mp3 support anyway
[05:22] <malar> yes
[05:22] <AbortD> oh
[05:22] <don_jr> pestilence the problem is I use sudo to do something and it asks for a password, when I put in the one I gave ubuntu when I installed it tells me 'sorry' and won't let me run what ever I'm trying to do.
[05:23] <sethk> don_jr, I believe that the sudo method is actually in many ways much worse than su
[05:23] <blurd> I want to get JAVA because I want to be able to play a game.. so which file do I install??
[05:23] <sethk> AbortD, like a usb memory stick.  looks like a removable disk drive
[05:23] <AbortD> chibiace: mp3 support throughout all programs?
[05:23] <AbortD> sethk: ...
[05:23] <blurd> I want to get JAVA because I want to be able to play a game.. so which file do I install??
[05:23] <pestilence> don_jr: well, it should take that password, so something is wrong there.
[05:23] <chibiace> AbortD: should be. install whatever codecs you can from that site though.
[05:23] <don_jr> say I don't do much with the terminal as of yet anyways, I try and do it all thorugh the gui when I can.  I've got a couple books to help me learn zsh and python.
[05:23] <blurd> I want to get JAVA because I want to be able to play a game.. so which file do I install?? Can anyone help me??  http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[05:24] <sethk> don_jr, when you do sudo passwd, and it asks for a password, that is _your_ password, not the root password
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > blurd
[05:24] <minerale> could someone help me with this: GDM has started refusing to work, it comes up and says "No serving hosts were found" - albeit I can start the x server manually myself
[05:24] <jarrod_> silent_scream: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[05:24] <sethk> don_jr, after you enter your password, you'll get a prompt to enter the root password, and another to confirm the root password
[05:24] <don_jr> sethk I know, that's what I gave it and it told me 'sorry'
[05:24] <techniq> anyone with experience with setting up Raid1 via MD in Dapper
[05:24] <blurd> whats so hard about my question..
[05:24] <sethk> don_jr, I hate that thing.
[05:24] <don_jr> sethk I already changed the root password and I'm installing the kubuntu-desktop now.
[05:24] <sethk> don_jr, does visudo work?
[05:24] <silent_scream> thnx
[05:24] <sethk> don_jr, oh, ok.
[05:24] <don_jr> sethk havn't tried and it's busy right now
[05:24] <blurd> Can anyone help me with Java
[05:24] <techniq> install goes fine, but I can't not get it to boot.. I can mount /dev/md0 from the live cd and browse the contents
[05:25] <sethk> minerale, for some reason it is trying to do an xdmcp connection to some other host
[05:25] <don_jr> sethk I'm smart enough not to do anything stupid knowing the root password on my own box, I'm not overly worried about it.
[05:25] <usli> i can't play the mp3
[05:25] <usli> how to play it?
[05:25] <pestilence> blurd: that has to be in the ubuntu guide
[05:25] <techniq> I've tried what's outlined here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/RAID1) to no avail, and have searched online, but nothing but dead ends
[05:25] <sethk> minerale, your /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file must be borked, although I have no idea how that happened.
[05:25] <don_jr> and if I do do something too stupid...I just reinstall again.  I wrote down everything I used today so I can fix it the first time without having to come in here and bug people! lol
[05:25] <usli> !mp3
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <techniq> I'm getting an 'Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition' from Grub
[05:25] <pestilence> !tell blurd about java
[05:25] <Rafa_brz> blurd: you can find the "how to" at www.java.com
[05:26] <sethk> don_jr, as I said, I believe that the sudo technique is actually less secure in many cases than su
[05:26] <usli> guys
[05:26] <usli> any of u know how to play mp3 in ubuntu?
[05:26] <pestilence> hmmm, is ubotu mia?
[05:26] <sethk> usli, I don't know the answer, I'm not ignoring you
[05:26] <blurd> nvm
[05:26] <juliano> hey ... edgy is the new version of ubuntu?
[05:26] <pestilence> !hello
[05:26] <blurd> worthless coming here
[05:26] <don_jr> sethk I've got alot to learn to get linux to do everything I want it to, but for right now It's doing great.
[05:26] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[05:26] <varsendaggr> hey i was reading about tobaz for gnome,   it looks like a session saver   is there anything that will save a session to be loaded later,   or is there a way to make my virtual desktops different?   different icons   different programs running?
[05:26] <tritium> !mp3 > usli
[05:26] <sethk> don_jr, good
[05:26] <Rafa_brz> usli: you can use xmms!
[05:26] <usli> what's that?
[05:26] <Rafa_brz> it's a good player like winamp
[05:26] <usli> i've install the codec multimedia
[05:27] <usli> but it still cant play
[05:27] <tritium> blurd: that kind of attitude will not get you help
[05:27] <techniq> I tried to copy the initrd.img-* from the boot CD and run it in grub, but same error
[05:27] <blurd> I don't know the RooT password where can i find out what it is??
[05:27] <don_jr> sethk the only thing I havn't been able to figure out how to do yet is play wmv files
[05:27] <nixternal> how can i have seperate icons on seperate workspaces?  is this even possible?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> !root
[05:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:27] <AbortD> chibiace: k got it :)
[05:27] <usli> Rafa_brz: how to get the software
[05:27] <techniq> is it best to put /boot on a non-raid'd partition?
[05:27] <sethk> don_jr, I'm the wrong person to help with that.  I work on kernels and device drivers.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> nixternal,  seperate icons to do what?
[05:27] <keithhhh> Is there any programs like Media Maker, so I can take photos and an audio track and merge them together.....with many transition options for the photos??
[05:27] <sethk> techniq, probably
[05:28] <Rafa_brz> usli: menu applications... add/remove
[05:28] <chibiace> AbortD: theres alot more software if you have universe and multiverse anyway
[05:28] <tritium> blurd: read the wiki page you have been sent
[05:28] <Rafa_brz> usli: there you can find it!
[05:28] <nixternal> im setting up a demo box for a show tomorrow..i want a workspace with office icons, a workspace with internet icons, and so on
[05:28] <nixternal> i don't want a million icons
[05:28] <joshritger> i can get mp3's to play on vlc but not amarok, what do i need to install to get them to play
[05:28] <don_jr> sethk I'm not gonna worry about it tonight, but thank you.  The only other thing I want to learn how to do, is make this box a server of sorts, so my kids have to log into it to get online, then I can control thier time on and what not.
[05:28] <AbortD> it gives me more software choices?
[05:28] <usli> ah
[05:28] <usli> no need
[05:28] <Rafa_brz> it's too easy to install
[05:28] <jarrod_> silent_scream: read man sudo, man telinit, and learn about what the scripts stored in the /etc/init.d directory are there for then read about runlevels which are listed in /etc/inittab
[05:28] <usli> the codec is working
[05:28] <sethk> nixternal, nice to allow yourself lots of time  :)
[05:28] <usli> i can plat it
[05:28] <usli> but with totem
[05:28] <usli> anyway
[05:28] <usli> thanks a million
[05:28] <sethk> nixternal, if you have such a limited amount of time I'd probably go with fedora
[05:28] <blurd> What page tritium send it again
[05:28] <tritium> !enter > usli
[05:28] <nixternal> if it takes a lot of time do the icon trick, then bah
[05:28] <nixternal> hrmmm
[05:29] <tritium> !java > blurd
[05:29] <don_jr> I want to find out if there's a way they can log into thier computer, then have to log into mine before they can get online.
[05:29] <nixternal> now i see why i love kubuntu so much ;)
[05:29] <jarrod_> anyone know of a decent mud client that is in a repository somewhere? I dont want to have to hack any configure scripts or makefiles
[05:29] <blurd> That wasn't my question, my question was: I don't know the RooT password where can i find out what it is??
[05:29] <jake1> i need help
[05:29] <sethk> don_jr, just install openssh_server
[05:29] <iratsu> does using a swapfile instead of a swap partition reduce linux's performance by a lot?
[05:29] <eyequeue> blurd, no such thing
[05:29] <jarrod_> blurd: you didnt set the root password?
[05:29] <jake1> i just followed all the directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and i got as far asSetting up your chroot with debootstrap
[05:29] <sethk> don_jr, then other folks can log in to your box using ssh, and transfer files with scp and sftp
[05:29] <AbortD> now to work on flash :D
[05:29] <jake1> and now i'm lost
[05:30] <warbringer87> How does one go about submitting a desktop background to the ubuntu project?
[05:30] <tritium> !rootsudo > blurd
[05:30] <eyequeue> !root > blurd
[05:30] <sethk> blurd, set the root password with:     sudo passwd
[05:30] <chibiace> flash is in there too
[05:30] <keithhhh> Is there any programs like Media Maker, so I can take photos and an audio track and merge them together.....with many transition options for the photos?
[05:30] <warbringer87> free of course
[05:30] <eyequeue> sethk, bad advice
[05:30] <jake1> sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 dapper /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --arch i386 is where i got to
[05:30] <sethk> blurd, people will tell you things like there is none, or something is different about ubuntu w.r.t. root, but it isn't true
[05:30] <sethk> eyequeue, I disagree
[05:30] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > sethk
[05:30] <blurd> it asks for new unix password
[05:30] <sethk> eyequeue, in many important ways, the sudo to do everything paradigm is much worse than allowing su
[05:30] <jake1> and the terminal output was "no such script: --arch"
[05:30] <jake1> what am i doing wrong
[05:31] <sethk> blurd, right, you are setting the password, so it asks for the password
[05:31] <eyequeue> sethk, that's ubuntu "policy" if you will
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: He has been told that yet he insists on telling it to people
[05:31] <tritium> sethk: the recommended way for ubuntu is to use sudo
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Logical eh? :P
[05:31] <sethk> eyequeue, no, not true.  the expert install option sets the root password
[05:31] <don_jr> sethk that wouldn't allow my kids to brows the internet though.  They get on nickjr.com and cartoonnetwork.com  I just want to be able to regulate their time online without having to look at my watch and go upstairs and tell them to get off....I"m trying to be lazy! lol
[05:31] <eyequeue> blurd, read the official site's advice, rather than irc users please
[05:31] <sethk> tritium, not true.  the expert install option sets the root password.  If they didn't want you to use it, then they wouldn't set it.
[05:31] <juliano> edgy is the new version of ubuntu?
[05:31] <Rafa_brz> usli: did you find?
[05:31] <jake1> any ideas
[05:31] <jake1> ?
[05:31] <viator> i think you can add audio to picture in gimp you can also use the layer tool todo as you described
[05:31] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, by an !op yet?
[05:31] <varsendaggr> don_jr, i bet you could use cron somehow
[05:31] <tritium> sethk: that is not the standard install image, though
[05:31] <tritium> option, rather
[05:31] <usli> yap
[05:31] <usli> wait
[05:31] <don_jr> varsendaggr cron?
[05:32] <usli> going to install it
[05:32] <sethk> tritium, there is no "standard" image.  there are only various installation options
[05:32] <viator> but its not ez or dumbed down
[05:32] <tritium> sethk: no, the standard image would be the livecd with which you can install
[05:32] <usli> wow
[05:32] <usli> 10 m
[05:32] <varsendaggr> hmm
[05:32] <usli> that's big
[05:32] <sethk> tritium, no, there is nothing standard about it, it's just a set of options for a typical desktop
[05:32] <varsendaggr> donis a timer and it can kill firefox
[05:32] <tritium> usli: use punctuation, rather than enter key please
[05:32] <stahnma> can someone help me with xorg.conf for dual monitors?  I have done it on SuSE and Red Hat but am having a problem on Ubuntu.  THe problem is something with either the device or screen sections
[05:32] <sethk> tritium, but if something were meant to never be done, then none of the installation options would do it.
[05:32] <Awesome-o2000> !kernel
[05:32] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:33] <tritium> sethk: no, it is in fact the standard image
[05:33] <don_jr> varsendaggr I'll look into it, thank you.
[05:33] <sethk> stahnma, it's exactly the same
[05:33] <usli> ok
[05:33] <usli> sorry tritium
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: NOt sure, but he refuses to use the Ub standard
[05:33] <tritium> usli: no problem, thanks
[05:33] <sethk> tritium, standard according to whom?  it's just the default installation options.
[05:33] <jake1> anyone have any idea what i did wrong
[05:33] <viator> don the only thing is the kids can play thos shockwave games
[05:33] <jake1> ????????
[05:33] <viator> well not inlinux
[05:33] <viator> anyway
[05:33] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, then why is he in #ubuntu i wonder?
[05:33] <tritium> sethk: ubuntu
[05:33] <jarrod_> don_jr: what is it that you are tring to do?
[05:34] <varsendaggr> don_jr, you could log them in with an account that they don't know the password to and then have a script kill gdm   at 9:45 everyday
[05:34] <don_jr> jarrod_ I'd like to be able to monitor my children while they are online from my box.
[05:34] <sethk> tritium, I've been doing security in unix for many many years.  sudo is in fact much worse than su.
[05:34] <stahnma> I would agree...maybe you can check out this xorg.0.log
[05:34] <usli> but i still cant play a software to open a visio file in ubuntu
[05:34] <varsendaggr> don_jr, ohhh
[05:34] <tritium> sethk: thanks for your opinion
[05:34] <sethk> don_jr, if they are as smart as you, they'll work around it.
[05:34] <jake1> sometimes i wish it were as easy as clicking a button
[05:34] <usli> ane of u who has solved that kind of problem, please tell me
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: HE probalby feels he is right.  HE will probably not be here when those people break their systems and come back for help
[05:34] <jake1> why most things be so complicated
[05:34] <sethk> usli, I don't believe there is any software to use visio files
[05:35] <usli> so...
[05:35] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, that's the sad part when people refuse to follow the standards here
[05:35] <don_jr> sethk They are pretty young at the moment, although I don't doubt my oldest could figure it out if he watched me long enough!
[05:35] <usli> is there a way to open it in ubuntu ?
[05:35] <sethk> Jack_Sparrow, that's both ignorant and condescending.  I'll be happy to discuss the merits of the issue if you like.
[05:35] <don_jr> sethk they are 6 and 9 right now so I'm not overly worried about them cracking linux just yet!
[05:35] <jarrod_> don_jr: hmm, well a time based (cron based) export of the root wm window might work, are you looking to log keystrokes or just the content of the window
[05:35] <tritium> Please take the root/sudo discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> sethk: Im content to wait for you to get klined
[05:35] <sethk> don_jr, I guess you are safe for a year or two
[05:36] <usli> sethk: is there a way to open it in ubuntu ?
[05:36] <sethk> Jack_Sparrow, you can't be serious.
[05:36] <sethk> usli, no
[05:36] <don_jr> jarrod_ I'd like to be able to see what they are looking at if possible, and to kill it if needed.
[05:36] <jake1> has anyone here gotten chroot to work
[05:36] <don_jr> jarrod_ with windows I could do this with remote desktop, but not sure how to pull it off with linux yet.
[05:36] <sethk> jake1, sure.
[05:36] <sethk> jake1, what problem are you having?
[05:37] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: sethk is entitled to his opinion, and anyone is free to do as they please with root/sudo.  It is simply our recommendation to use sudo, but that is all it is.
[05:37] <don_jr> I appriciate all the help tonight folks. I'll worry about other problems another time, it's bed time!
[05:37] <jake1> sethk: i followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[05:37] <viator> vnc
[05:37] <andruk> !jack
[05:37] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1-14 (dapper), package size 121 kB, installed size 572 kB
[05:37] <jarrod_> don_jr: well, tunneling X over ssh/xdmcp and watching the session is one way
[05:37] <tritium> certainly he has no ban/kline coming to him.  He has not done anything wrong.
[05:37] <sethk> jake1, let me look.  why are you using chroot?  what are you trying to do?
[05:37] <dandroid> what's the root password for the kubuntu installation?
[05:37] <andruk> !JACK
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JACK - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <jake1> run some 32-bit stuff
[05:37] <jake1> like Wine
[05:37] <jake1> and wat not
[05:38] <jake1> i got as far as Setting up your chroot with debootstrap
[05:38] <sethk> dandroid, with the default installation options, it is not set
[05:38] <dandroid> apparently my clock is too far in the future and now i can't sudo
[05:38] <eyequeue> dandroid, there is none, root is unsafe
[05:38] <eyequeue> dandroid, see the url the bot sent you
[05:38] <NickGarvey> !root > dandroid
[05:38] <jake1> and in the terminal i typed "sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 dapper /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --arch i386
[05:38] <sethk> jake1, you are trying to have a 32 boot root and a 64 bit root at the same time?  ok.  and where does it die?
[05:39] <sethk> jake1, or what command line is failing?
[05:39] <eyequeue> dandroid, you should be able to boot to recovery mode in grub
[05:39] <jake1> and it says "no such script: --arch"
[05:39] <jarrod_> does anyone know of a decent mudclient that is GTK based?
[05:39] <sethk> dandroid, you may have to boot the live cd to recover from that.
[05:40] <jake1> basically i am running right now Dapper but for an AMD64
[05:40] <chibiace> jarrod, no but kmuddy is awesome
[05:40] <sethk> jake1, arch is an argument, it says --arch.  the only way you can get that message is if you typed it wrong
[05:40] <jarrod_> chibiace: is that QT based?
[05:40] <Roh81> hey folks. Im looking for help reformatting a mounted hard drive using kde.
[05:40] <viator> mud heh havent done that in years ......
[05:40] <chibiace> yes but its the best ive seen
[05:40] <jarrod_> chibiace: thanks
[05:40] <sethk> jake1, try pasting the command from the web page, eliminate the possibility of a typo
[05:40] <RedRose> prometheus@Cerberus:/proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD# sudo echo current 80 > brightness
[05:40] <RedRose> echo: write error: Invalid argument
[05:40] <jake1> that was the command from the website
[05:40] <jake1> exactly
[05:40] <jarrod_> chibiace: what repository is it in?
[05:40] <jake1> sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:40] <sethk> Roh81, what do you mean by reformatting?
[05:40] <RedRose> can anyone help me?
[05:40] <jake1> is exactly how i typed it
[05:40] <viator> not since i dailed up a 1000 dollar phone bill
[05:41] <jake1> i copied and pasted
[05:41] <chibiace> jarrod_: no idea. but its about time i start playing dunemud again
[05:41] <jake1> and changed breezy to dapper like they said
[05:41] <sethk> jake1  copy the command and the response to the paste bot.
[05:41] <sethk> jake1, possibly you are pasting a newline into the terminal
[05:41] <jarrod_> chibiace: dunemud? I will google thanks
[05:41] <Roh81> sethk, its currently ntfs. I recently changed over to linux and kept this drive to save a few gigs of pdfs and other media.
[05:41] <dandroid> once i boot into the live cd, what path should i take to fix my delimma?
[05:41] <sethk> jake1, where in the web page it just newlines because of the screen width
[05:41] <chibiace> jarrod_: dune.servint.com:6789
[05:41] <sethk> Roh81, ok, and what do you want to do now?
[05:41] <jake1> :-\
[05:42] <jake1> well then let me check that out
[05:42] <jake1> hld on
[05:42] <eyequeue> sorush20, nfs here too, heh
[05:42] <sethk> jake1, changed breezy to dapper?  that doesn't make any sense, but ok...
[05:42] <viator> pdfs work under linux'
[05:42] <viator> just fine
[05:42] <robert_> to anybody who might be well-versed in chrooting- I'm trying to setup a chrooted hosting environment on a hosting server of mine, and I want to chroot various users to various domain name(/srv/www/domains/[domain] /*), and I have no idea how to do this =/
[05:42] <sorush20> eyequeue: yes..
[05:42] <Roh81> sethk reformat it into a linux file system. Im in a disk manager and logged in as an admin but both the delete and format options arent open to me.
[05:42] <Awesome-o2000> how do I recompile linux-restricted-modules for a custom kernel?
[05:42] <sorush20> eyequeue: I#ve already been here but no use.. at yet
[05:43] <viator> gnight folks
[05:43] <NickGarvey> nighty
[05:43] <eyequeue> sorush20, this is more the support channel though, for future reference
[05:43] <jake1> sethk: what do you mean that doesn't make sense
[05:43] <sethk> Roh81, I don't use disk manager, I do it from the command line with fdisk, which I find is much easier.  try it that way, as in, sudo fdisk /dev/hda   (if it's hda, of course)  (sudo not necessary if you are already root)
[05:43] <dandroid> one thing i hate is that i can't ever seem to specifiy an exact time, linux always wants to calculate it based on my time zone. any way i can tell it for forget the timezone and just use the time i give it?
[05:43] <jake1> it says if i am using dapper then change breezy to dapper
[05:43] <sorush20> eyequeue: I do know that but I get more response in offtopic
[05:43] <sethk> jake1, nothing on that web page works in dapper but not in breezy
[05:43] <NickGarvey> dandroid: man date
[05:43] <sethk> jake1, oh, ok, I misunderstood, sorry
[05:44] <Roh81> sethk its currently mounted to hda which is kind of scary because thats my main hard drive and i do not want that formated.
[05:44] <jake1> so... i removed the spaces
[05:44] <jake1> now i got a different output
[05:44] <Roh81> Ah no its not... Hrm...
[05:44] <jake1> err... not the spaces
[05:44] <sethk> Roh81, drives are not formatted.  IDE drives are never formatted
[05:44] <jake1> byt the newlines
[05:44] <Roh81> Why not?
[05:45] <jake1> jake@jake:~$ sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --arch i386
[05:45] <jake1> Password:
[05:45] <jake1> E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:45] <tritium> !enter > jake1
[05:45] <sethk> Roh81, because they are formatted at the factory.  file systems are created on partitions on the drive, but that's different from formatting.  low level formats shouldn't be done to ide drives
[05:45] <britt> one more question, is the 2.6.15-26-686 kernel truly a smp kernel?
[05:45] <britt> i was confused by the apt-cache listing for it
[05:45] <sethk> Roh81, so you are merely creating a file system in one area of the disk
[05:45] <eyequeue> britt, yes, run uname -a
[05:46] <sethk> Roh81, you can boot the live cd, and then you won't be operating on hda1 when hda2 (or whatever) is mounted, but you'll still be operating on the same disk.
[05:46] <Roh81> lol yea yea. Im still used to windows. Where they do regularly call it formatting. I know the difference.
[05:46] <britt> eyequeue: still setting up.... i'll double check though later. Just wanted to be sure before I installed it
[05:46] <sethk> Roh81, ok
[05:46] <eyequeue> britt, yes, it's what you want then, heh
[05:46] <robert_> to anybody who might be well-versed in chrooting- I'm trying to setup a chrooted hosting environment on a hosting server of mine, and I want to chroot various users to various domain name(/srv/www/domains/[domain] /*), and I have no idea how to do this =/
[05:46] <sethk> Roh81, so, with fdisk, you would simply change the partition type from ntfs to linux
[05:46] <usli> sethk: do u know how to install a bluetooth in ubuntu?
[05:46] <sethk> Roh81, then you would do (assuming it is hda1):   fdisk -t ext3 /dev/hda1
[05:46] <Roh81> sethk Wont it ask about partition size?
[05:47] <sethk> usli, you either insmod the modules for it, or possibly rebuild the kernel if you need support for hardware that's not on in the default kernel configuration
[05:47] <sethk> Roh81, no
[05:47] <jake1> i need to run WINE in order to run Microsoft Visual BASIC and Outlook
[05:47] <sethk> Roh81, you can change only the partition type.  nothing else will change.  start, end, etc will be unchanged.
[05:47] <Awesome-o2000> im trying to run make menuconfig and its telling me I need ncurses - I have ncurses-bin and libncurses5 installed - what else do I need?
[05:47] <usli> and how to those things?
[05:47] <sethk> Roh81, to be sure, first, do this:   fdisk -l /dev/hda
[05:47] <Roh81> sethk well in that situation this works fine.
[05:48] <Roh81> Ill use t if that does it without chanign size.
[05:48] <sethk> Roh81, save the output to a file.  that way you can always go back to fdisk and return things to where they are now.
[05:48] <sethk> Roh81, that's the easiest and safest way.
[05:48] <keithhhh> Is there any programs like Media Maker, so I can take photos and an audio track and merge them together.....with many transition options for the photos?
[05:48] <sethk> Roh81, backing up the mbr is a good precaution:    dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr-backup-filename bs=512 count=1
[05:48] <RedRose> Why can't I edit any of the files in /proc/acpi?
[05:48] <sethk> RedRose, they are pseudo files.
[05:48] <Roh81> sethk You seem to know file systems and the like. What do you think of using swap partitions with linux?
[05:48] <sethk> RedRose, you should never mess with any files in /proc
[05:49] <jake1> sethk: no suggestions?
[05:49] <Awesome-o2000> can anyone tell me what ncurses package I need to develop in order to run make menuconfig?
[05:49] <sethk> Roh81, if the kernel is actually swapping, then the performance with swap partitions is much better than the performance using ordinary file space for swap.
[05:49] <Roh81> God damn sethk can keep up with a lot. O_O
[05:49] <sethk> jake1, hold on, I have to look at what you last told me.  :)
[05:49] <RedRose> sethk, Well i'm trying to edit my screen brightness
[05:49] <RedRose> it in /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD
[05:49] <sethk> RedRose, everything in /proc that is not related to a specific process is deprecated
[05:50] <RedRose> Well i'm trying to edit my screen brightness it in /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD
[05:50] <sethk> RedRose, the correct way to do things like that is with sysctl
[05:50] <sethk> RedRose, I doubt that is going to do what you think it is going to do.
[05:50] <andruk> how do you start JACK?
[05:50] <sethk> Roh81, I'm not sure I answered your question.
[05:50] <jarrod_> why are there so many important development libraries missing from the xubuntu repositories?>
[05:50] <jarrod_> libsvga is not there
[05:50] <Roh81> sethk What ratio to ram is best with linux? I do play games like ut2004 and only have a gig of ram.
[05:51] <sethk> Roh81, current thinking is that there is no such meaningful ration
[05:51] <Roh81> sethk You answered it well enough.
[05:51] <RedRose> sethk, In proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness their is a birghtness controler which i need to modify
[05:51] <sethk> s/ration/ratio
[05:51] <Roh81> sethk 1 times the ram. 1.5 times the ram.
[05:51] <sethk> RedRose, that's not the correct way to do it.  if it works for you, great, but I don't see it working for you.
[05:52] <sethk> Roh81, that's no longer meaningful.  RAM is too cheap, and most machines have so much ram they may never really swap
[05:52] <RedRose> sethk, Then How? because honestly I have found no other way
[05:52] <sethk> Roh81, many people find that when they monitor the swap, it is never used.
[05:52] <sethk> RedRose, does the output of sysctl -l   show any parameters that look like they are related to the brightness?
[05:52] <rjune> cool
[05:52] <jake1> well.... i'm heading off to bed
[05:52] <sethk> RedRose, sorry, sysctl -a
[05:53] <NickGarvey> Roh81: only a gig?
[05:53] <jake1> maybe i can figure this out tomorrow
[05:53] <eyequeue> my swap utilization is presently 171644
[05:53] <jake1> oh wait...... one other question
[05:53] <NickGarvey> Roh81: and.. if you have a lot of ram, 1.5x isn't always needed...
[05:53] <RedRose> no, but that's because that read /proc/sys, not /proc/acpi
[05:53] <sethk> Roh81, on the other hand, if you have tons of disk, then you don't lose anything by setting aside a few gigs for swap
[05:53] <jake1> when i am in a building that i know has wireless and i scan for the network how come it doesn't show up
[05:53] <jake1> ?
[05:53] <NickGarvey> sethk: yeah, I don't have much disk heh
[05:53] <jake1> it shows up on every other computer though when i scan
[05:54] <RedRose> sethk, no, but that's because that read /proc/sys, not /proc/acpi
[05:54] <sethk> Roh81, that 1.5 thing, which is quite old, was based on the idea that ram was sufficiently expensive that people would only buy enough to get decent performance.  when ram is nearly free, that calculation no longer applies.
[05:54] <sethk> RedRose, no, that's not true.  sysctl was there long before /sys even existed
[05:54] <salkot> My network configuration tool doesn't show any wireless networks anymore. Any ideas?
[05:54] <JoseStefan> 1.5x is a guide not a rule
[05:55] <RedRose> well that's all the man pages tell me and that's all it's listing is files from /proc/sys ... check the man pages
[05:55] <sethk> JoseStefan, indeed, and I'm saying that it is no longer a sensible guide.
[05:55] <sethk> RedRose, ok, apparently you know more about this than I do, so I won't argue with you.
[05:55] <RedRose> sethk, i'm not arguing, i'm just saying
[05:55] <JoseStefan> sethk: nope, it's best to just calculate a value matching personal needs
[05:55] <sethk> JoseStefan, yes, I agree.
[05:56] <RedRose> sethk, The parameters available are those listed under /proc/sys/ ... that's all i'm saying
[05:56] <JoseStefan> sethk: i like the use the example of a 32-bit system with 4gb of physical ram
[05:56] <sethk> JoseStefan, yes, that's quite true, I hadn't thought of it in those exact terms.  :)
[05:57] <robert_> nobody?
[05:57] <jazzrocker> robert_, what was your question?
[05:57] <robert_> 'm trying to setup a chrooted hosting environment on a hosting server of mine, and I want to chroot various users to various domain name(/srv/www/domains/[domain] /*), and I have no idea how to do this =/
[05:57] <robert_> er
[05:57] <robert_> I'm trying to setup a chrooted hosting environment on a hosting server of mine, and I want to chroot various users to various domain name(/srv/www/domains/[domain] /*), and I have no idea how to do this =/
[05:57] <levander> What's the directory that has all the preinstall and postinstall scripts for the debs that are installed on your system?
[05:58] <sethk> robert_, are you sure you want to do that?  That's not the way, for example, to set up virtual domains for a web server.
[05:58] <eyequeue> levander, /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[05:58] <levander> eyequeue: thanks
[05:58] <eyequeue> levander, no prob
[05:58] <RedRose> sethk, so how can I edit my screen brightness? cause i've googled just about everything and tried all the support modules, but nothing works
[05:59] <robert_> sethk: yes, I'm sure. should one of these get hijacked, I don't want whoever hijacked the account to have total access to the system at first-glance
[05:59] <sethk> robert_, the hijacking user could simply execute his own chroot.  that doesn't really protect you very much.
[05:59] <sethk> robert_, it hides some information, but that's all it accomplishes
[06:00] <sethk> robert_, you can certainly do it.
[06:00] <sethk> robert_, as to how, though, you would need to give us details about when the chroot is happening and why
[06:00] <jarrod_> is there a development repository that someone has in their sources.list? I am not finding something like that on google
[06:00] <robert_> sethk: it's mostly to guard against people trying dumb things :P
[06:01] <eyequeue> jarrod_, edgy, as in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[06:01] <kaot> robert_: http://www.cgisecurity.com/webservers/apache/chrootapache2-howto.html
[06:01] <sethk> jarrod_, most packages have a user piece and a dev piece, and the two pieces are on the same repository servers.  dev stuff isn't in a separate place, just a separate package
[06:01] <jarrod_> eyequeue: thanks
[06:01] <eyequeue> jarrod_, sure
[06:01] <sethk> robert_, kaot just give you a howto for the web server case
[06:01] <robert_> eh, I'm talking about shell access for the moment
[06:01] <jarrod_> so I take is edgy is dev and breezy is stable?
[06:01] <AnI> Hellow World!
[06:01] <jazzrocker> AnI, did you do that with PHP? ;)
[06:01] <AnI> does anyone know if ubuntu support sli
[06:01] <sethk> robert_, you want to execute a chroot when someone connects using ssh?
[06:02] <robert_> yup
[06:02] <jazzrocker> AnI, that's a question for linux in general, but yes
[06:02] <Rafa_brz> I've got 3 computers at home, so...  1 - ubuntu and 2
[06:02] <sethk> jarrod_, dapper is released, edgy is to be released, breezy is the previous release.  I still use breezy on my deployed systems.
[06:02] <jarrod_> I am new to xu/ku/ubuntu
[06:02] <rdhrd138> Hey guys... How would I configure XGL? I've heard with gconf-editor.. But I don't know where to go from there.
[06:02] <jazzrocker> AnI, nvidia has drivers for linux and linux has drivers for nvidia
[06:02] <jarrod_> sethk:  ahh ok
[06:02] <Rafa_brz> I've got 3 computers at home, so...  1 - ubuntu and 2 - windows... can I open a mp3 file from another computer?
[06:02] <AnI> do i need to change anythin for xorg?
[06:02] <AnI> oh ok
[06:02] <AnI> i ci c
[06:02] <AnI> thx
[06:02] <AnI> now i feel safe
[06:02] <JoseStefan> !tell about rdhrd138 xgl
[06:02] <jazzrocker> AnI, not sure about that, you *will* want to install the accelerated drivers
[06:03] <eyequeue> rdhrd138, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:03] <JoseStefan> !tell rdhrd138 about xgl
[06:03] <Rafa_brz> i'm using xmms, but i can't open it
[06:03] <rdhrd138> ok, thanks
[06:03] <Rafa_brz> the network is ok!
[06:03] <asdx> the ubuntu installer can resize safely ntfs partitions with full of data?
[06:03] <jazzrocker> AnI, and doing so the automatic way, e.g. via synaptic should reconfigure anything that needs to be reconfigured with xorg
[06:03] <sethk> robert_, you would have to change the default command launched by ssh.  instead of a simple login shell, you would have to launch a script that does the chroot and then launches the shell.
[06:03] <AnI> thx jazz i will look up more
[06:03] <AnI> sweet
[06:03] <sethk> robert_, start by looking at the sshd configuration files in /etc/ssh
[06:03] <jazzrocker> AnI, k, yeah check the wiki in the topic
[06:04] <jazzrocker> AnI, i'm not sure but i think SLI is primarily a hardware thing, so afaik the kernel doesn't need to know about or care whether you're running SLI because it just sees both cards as one thing. <- don't quote me on that
[06:05] <techniq> I forgot who replied, but FYI about my RAID issue, placing /boot outside the /dev/md0 raid corrected my grub boot trouble
[06:05] <sethk> techniq, I said to move it, so that's good  :)
[06:05] <sethk> jazzrocker, that's my understanding also (of SLI)
[06:06] <jazzrocker> sethk, yeh thought so
[06:06] <techniq> sethk, thanks... I guess if the drive which /boot is store goes down, I'll have to restore another partition from backup to boot
[06:06] <JoseStefan> there is a lot of driver stuff to make SLI actually usefull, otherwise the other card wont do anything
[06:06] <sethk> techniq, of course you've lost the redundency, but /boot usually changes rarely, so it isn't a problem operationally
[06:07] <sethk> techniq, so, yes, you would have to restore, but you don't have a serious burdon as far as backing up boot
[06:07] <techniq> sethk, true, and I can always access the mirrored data from a livecd boot, then restore
[06:07] <orbin> could someone help me mount my usb thumb drive?  all i get from messages/dmesg is this when i insert it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22308
[06:07] <sethk> techniq, that's true too.
[06:07] <techniq> sethk, thanks again... btw, any idea why this is required, most of the tuts (include ubuntu specific) don't state this as an issue
[06:08] <sethk> orbin, that's not a problem
[06:08] <sethk> orbin, I'd expect to see a line, though, showing the sdX  assigned to the drive  (sda, sdb, etc.)
[06:08] <asdx> the ubuntu installer can resize safely ntfs partitions with full of data?
[06:09] <sethk> orbin, usbcore is good, and usb storage is good.  possibly scsi disk support not loaded?
[06:09] <sethk> asdx, NO
[06:09] <sethk> asdx, it's risky to resize NTFS.  back up first.
[06:09] <asdx> ok, is not for me, a friend was asking
[06:09] <asdx> :P
[06:09] <sethk> asdx, gparted can do it.
[06:09] <nirmal> is there any online collabaration tool with which we can have peertopeer communication
[06:09] <jarrod_> nirmal: like sharepoint?
[06:10] <nirmal> yes
[06:10] <JoseStefan> asdx, always backup, defrag is usefull too
[06:10] <jarrod_> nirmal: you might consider trac
[06:10] <sethk> orbin, I can connect one to my box and tell you which modules need to be loaded, if that will help you
[06:10] <jarrod_> nirmal: I am not sure if that is what you are looking for
[06:10] <orbin> sethk: so would that be a module i need to load?  i didn't have any sd* entries in /dev ... i made sda using mknod ... but that didn't seem to work ... i get invalid block device when using mount
[06:10] <orbin> sethk: yes please
[06:10] <jarrod_> nirmal: are you looking for vid conference?
[06:10] <jarrod_> nirmal: gnomemeeting
[06:10] <jarrod_> nirmal: or are you looking for a groupware suite
[06:11] <nirmal> i just seen in the windowsnetworking website regarding online collaboration tool
[06:11] <nirmal> yes you are right
[06:11] <sethk> orbin, ok, one moment.
[06:11] <nirmal> can we share the files in gnomemeeting?
[06:11] <TylerDurdener> where do i install new fonts to?
[06:12] <jarrod_> nirmal: not sure
[06:12] <orbin> !fonts > TylerDurdener
[06:12] <nirmal> it says it works without a webserver
[06:12] <jarrod_> orbin: well maybe you just need an fstab entry for it
[06:12] <Madpilot> TylerDurdener, ~/.fonts
[06:12] <TylerDurdener> !fonts
[06:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:12] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:12] <nirmal> it is a new feature of vista it says
[06:12] <sethk> orbin, I'll put the dmesg output, and the lsmod output, on the paste bin.  You'll see what should be there after the dmesg output you are seeing.
[06:12] <jarrod_> nirmal: ok well it sounds like you might consider trac if sharepoint is what you are looking for
[06:13] <nirmal> i did not see trac
[06:13] <orbin> sethk: cheers
[06:13] <jarrod_> nirmal: google trac
[06:13] <nirmal> thanks
[06:14] <orbin> jarrod_:  iwouldn't work AFAIK ... i mean i can't do it w/ mount so what's the point of putting it in fstab?
[06:14] <sethk> orbin   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22697
[06:15] <sethk> orbin, I have most stuff compiled into the kernel, so lsmod didn't show anything helpful
[06:15] <jarrod_> orbin: you cannot mount things that are not in fstab afaik
[06:15] <jarrod_> orbin: unless you are going a mount -t type etc
[06:15] <sethk> orbin, the dmesg output you can use to know how it should look once you've resolved the problem.
[06:15] <sethk> orbin, I mount that device as follows:    mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk
[06:16] <mad_man> what command does one use to get info on the installed graphics card ?
[06:16] <sethk> orbin, /media/usbdisk is just an arbitrary mount point.  sda1 is assigned by usb_storage.
[06:16] <eyequeue> mad_man, perhaps lspci
[06:16] <jarrod_> I use lspci | grep nvidia, except I broke my video card >.>
[06:17] <sethk> jarrod_, it isn't necessary for something to be in /etc/fstab in order to mount it.
[06:17] <orbin> sethk: usb_storage isn't loaded .. i guess that's the problem
[06:17] <sethk> jarrod_, /etc/fstab has two purposes, to specify what is mounted at boot time, and to allow a simpler mount command.
[06:18] <sethk> orbin, could be.  try insmod
[06:18] <jarrod_> I guess I should read man fstab
[06:18] <sethk> jarrod_, reading never hurts.  :)
[06:19] <gusto5> can someone give me the terminal command to look up my cpu?
[06:19] <jarrod_> sethk: hehehehe
[06:19] <jarrod_> gusto5: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:19] <gusto5> thank you
[06:19] <sethk> gusto5, it's deprecated, so I shouldn't, but:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:19] <sethk> I forget the correct way to do it, though.
[06:21] <silent_scream> what is the command to convert a picture format into another format? i.e. from .jpg to .png ?
[06:22] <mad_man> info:Matrox Graphics, Inc. G400/G450, googleearth can't find the gra. card or drivers not installed
[06:22] <eyequeue> convert (1)          - convert between image formats as well as resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither, draw on, flip, join, re-sample, and much more.
[06:23] <eyequeue> silent_scream, sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[06:24] <silent_scream> convert is the command?
[06:24] <silent_scream> or something like "cv"
[06:24] <eyequeue> silent_scream, it is one of them at least, yes
[06:24] <mad_man> thinking, thinking, can you see the smoke
[06:24] <ChronoAU> sethk: can ubuntu route port 23 to port 22 on another machine?
[06:24] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: uhh are you using telnet?
[06:25] <orbin> sethk: er, is it just "insmod - <module_name>" ?  usb_storage now shows up in lsmod and i get this from dmesg when i insert the disk now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22698
[06:25] <nirmal> i am on kanotix i have installed succesfully it is in /usr/share/trac
[06:25] <orbin> sethk: but i don't have any sd* entries in /dev
[06:25] <keithhhh> for Qemu to run windows must I have write access to the drive?  (would make sense)
[06:25] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: are you running telnet?
[06:25] <ChronoAU> jarrod_: no
[06:25] <nirmal> i have done with APT-Get install
[06:26] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: why do you want port 23 forwarded to port 22?
[06:26] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: what service is using port 23 then?
[06:26] <ChronoAU> jarrod: its just an example
[06:26] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: yes you can
[06:26] <orbin> sethk: nor are there any lines regarding sd* in my dmesg output unlike yours
[06:27] <ChronoAU> jarrod: i have 2 machines which services which both use the same port and i don't want to change the local port
[06:27] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: NAT or using load balancing techniques
[06:27] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: what service, are you trying to load balance them?
[06:28] <ChronoAU> jarrod_: no
[06:28] <tuxthepenguin64> Hi
[06:28] <irawan> hi
[06:28] <ChronoAU> jarrod_: e.g i have two machines thta i want to ssh into
[06:28] <tuxthepenguin64> I recently had an outage with my DSL provider, and now Ubuntu cannot detect m DSL
[06:28] <eyequeue> ChronoAU, i gavre multiple machines with apache on port 80, it doesn't conflict
[06:28] <salkot> My network configuration tool doesn't show any wireless networks anymore. What could be wrong?
[06:28] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: yeah if it is multiple machines it doesnt matter
[06:29] <eyequeue> ChronoAU, typically you would have a nonstandard port or two on the router, which sends to 22 on the host you want
[06:29] <tuxthepenguin64> it happened yester day, and since then I've been in OS X
[06:29] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: are you behind a router using NAT/Port forwarding?
[06:29] <ChronoAU> jarrod_: yes
[06:29] <carpediem> ChronoAU: you can create port tunnels with ssh.
[06:29] <tuxthepenguin64> Any ideas?
[06:29] <eyequeue> ChronoAU, like 22111 to send to 22 on .1, 22444 to send to 22 on .4, whatever
[06:30] <eyequeue> ChronoAU, this is presuming you want to hit each machine from the outside, you may want something else
[06:30] <jarrod_> ChronoAU: eyequeue explained it best, you can set up dynamic dns entries for the hosts with different port numbers and port forward using the specific ports to the correct nodes
[06:31] <eyequeue> ChronoAU, pick a numbering scheme that makes sense to you, so you'll remember it, and try to avoid using IANA-assigned ports (/etc/services)
[06:32] <CorpseFeeder> hello
[06:32] <backz> Hi, I need some help, I was trying to compile scatterchat with checkinstall make install, it start compile, but I stoped with ctrl+c, when I back from terminal, my user haven`t permission to run bash, make, gdm, nothing... I restarted the system, gdm don`t run, only root login, checking the files I saw it created a /no-backup with the sources was on my home. what f.... is it? a worm?
[06:33] <silent_scream> is there any way to mount .mds and .mdf files?
[06:33] <ChronoAU> i want to access things like web, ssh, ftp from 2 or more machines behind one internet ip, so i'd like to redirect external ports to local ports (like my old router was capable of)
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder> i keep getting "bash: make: command not found".. what's up with that?
[06:34] <eyequeue> CorpseFeeder, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:34] <orbin> sethk: still there? :)
[06:34] <CorpseFeeder> I am trying to follow instructions here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rt61 to install drivers for a Dlink wifi card
[06:34] <tuxthepenguin64> Anyone know why my ethernet wont work?
[06:35] <LeeChangHao> hello everyone
[06:35] <tuxthepenguin64> Network prefrences says it's active
[06:35] <orbin> !b-e > CorpseFeeder
[06:35] <tuxthepenguin64> it's configured righ
[06:35] <tuxthepenguin64> but when it had the outage, all the sudden, no connection
[06:35] <CorpseFeeder> what is !b-e mean?
[06:35] <babo> My system sounds work fine, but I can't hear anything from internet streaming ? anyone have any ideas ?
[06:36] <mad_man> i use this command "xdpyinfo | grep "X.Org version" and the shell just set's there. do i have a lazy shell ?
[06:36] <orbin> CorpseFeeder: ubotu sent you a message
[06:36] <CorpseFeeder> I see now
[06:36] <CorpseFeeder> oops.. I closed it haha
[06:36] <eyequeue> CorpseFeeder, it means, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:37] <babo> I don't think I've ever turned ubuntu on, and had the sound just 'work' ...
[06:37] <CorpseFeeder> whatever that ubotu sent me, I accidently closed it :)
[06:37] <JoseStefan> !b-e > CorpseFeeder
[06:37] <tuxthepenguin64> babo, you need the codecs
[06:37] <orbin> mad_man: stits there?  does it return to prompt or just sit on the new line?
[06:37] <CorpseFeeder> thanks.
[06:37] <orbin> s/stis/sits
[06:38] <babo> tuxthepenguin64, no, I got it working last week just fine ... it's not a codecs issue ...
[06:38] <tuxthepenguin64> go on Synaptic Package Manager and look for mplayer I pelieve
[06:38] <LeeChangHao> ive got a pretty weird problem, the good news is i kind of know whats going wrong, the dns system of my dapper is acting strange. My net works perfectly but when, for example i ping www.url.com, it will stop for a while to resolve the name before each packet, wich is really strange, its like it isnt caching any ip/name pair at all
[06:38] <tuxthepenguin64> Hmm
[06:38] <faithman> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:38] <LeeChangHao> i hope its clear enought
[06:38] <tuxthepenguin64> My only guess is to reinstall it..
[06:38] <LeeChangHao> and not too long >.<
[06:38] <mad_man> orbin: just set's they on new line with a >
[06:38] <mad_man> there*
[06:39] <tuxthepenguin64> babo, try to reinstall it
[06:39] <tuxthepenguin64> :)
[06:40] <babo> reinstall ubuntu ?
[06:40] <tuxthepenguin64> Nono
[06:40] <orbin> mad_man: er, maybe you typed in something wrong....press ctrl+c
[06:40] <tuxthepenguin64> The codecs
[06:40] <gubluntu> nite all
[06:41] <eyequeue> nite gubluntu
[06:41] <LeeChangHao> no one knows whats wrong with my dns lookups?
[06:41] <mad_man> orbin: this be what i type "~$ "xdpyinfo | grep "X.Org version"
[06:41] <tuxthepenguin64> Any reason why Ubuntu wont detect my internet connection??
[06:42] <LeeChangHao> tuxthepenguin64,  whats your setup?
[06:42] <orbin> mad_man: it's the quotation mark
[06:42] <orbin> mad_man: lose the quote at the start
[06:42] <tuxthepenguin64> Just a DSL router to this comp, no NAT or anything like that'
[06:43] <backz> Hey, I need help!!! my bin/bash is fine, my user have line on /etc/passd, but I cant log as user on ubuntu. I`m using a livecd, I chrooted HD sda1, when I run su user it returns: No shell
[06:43] <tuxthepenguin64> ethernet interface reports as active on Ubuntu
[06:43] <mad_man> orbin: i did not use quotation makes
[06:43] <mad_man> orbin: i will try again
[06:44] <mad_man> orbin: xdpyinfo | grep "X.Org version and same thing, just set's there in new line
[06:44] <tuxthepenguin64> But no GAIM connection or page load on FF
[06:45] <kewagi> *cough* I accidentally deleted my /etc/init.d/postfix - is there a way to restore it?
[06:46] <mad_man> LeeChangHao: have you look at your /etc/resolv.conf file ?
[06:46] <LeeChangHao> yes mad_man
[06:46] <LeeChangHao> my dns lockups work fine
[06:46] <LeeChangHao> the point is even if i access the same url within 10 seconds
[06:46] <orbin> mad_man: that exactly?  b/c you need a quotation mark at the end of that
[06:46] <LeeChangHao> it will resolver it again
[06:46] <LeeChangHao> resolve*
[06:46] <LeeChangHao> wont remember the ip
[06:47] <LeeChangHao> wich kind of slows down navigation a lot
[06:47] <LeeChangHao> even within the same domain
[06:47] <sethk> LeeChangHao, that's usually a problem with the DNS server
[06:47] <dannyr> hi, Can anyone advise how to remove the connection message when using ssh login to ubuntu "Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTEL etc...." please?
[06:47] <mad_man> LeeChangHao: maybe it's your isp,
[06:47] <sethk> LeeChangHao, however, it can be caused by having the DNS servers listed in the wrong order in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:48] <sethk> LeeChangHao, if the first one in the list always fails with a timeout, then you'll get the behavior you are describing
[06:48] <barata> I keep on doing stupid stuff
[06:48] <barata> damned! I've just erased my 120GB files
[06:48] <mad_man> orbin: your the man
[06:48] <sethk> LeeChangHao, as mad_man said, usually that would be a problem in your ISP's DNS servers and/or DHCP configuration info
[06:48] <barata> so dumb
[06:48] <LeeChangHao> if this is useful, if i ssh my router wich happens to use the same servers, and uses a linux so(its a wrt) then everything is fine
[06:48] <tuxthepenguin64> I would like my ethernet on my Ubuntu....
[06:48] <tuxthepenguin64> :(
[06:48] <orbin> mad_man: yay
[06:49] <sethk> it is always better to use   $( ... ) instead of ` ... `
[06:49] <mad_man> X.Org version: 7.0.0
[06:49] <mad_man> LeeChangHao: try use a diff dns sever
[06:49] <orbin> sethk: did you see those messages re: my usb issue?
[06:49] <LeeChangHao> ill try that
[06:49] <dangson> hello. can anyone tell me how to get s-video output to work?
[06:49] <sky_monkey007> hey all :)  Could someone tell me if there is a way I can enlarge the icons in the Nautilus "Places" sidebar?
[06:50] <sethk> orbin, no, sorry, I had to do some support for work.  what happened?
[06:50] <reteph> is the ubuntu kernel set to 386 by default?
[06:50] <JoseStefan> reteph, on i386 CDs it is
[06:50] <sethk> reteph, the typical install uses the 386 kernel.  it isn't really "set" to anything by default
[06:51] <mad_man> LeeChangHao: this one http://www.orsn.net/ or http://www.opendns.com/
[06:51] <squeaks> i can't find a guide that tells me about my default route configuration, i want to understand it so that i can change it to a temporary configuration, then set it back, the line I don't understand from route is:
[06:51] <Faithman> help anyone for getting Xfire on GAIM? having a bit of trouble
[06:51] <LeeChangHao> thx i already found one in my country
 sethk: er, is it just "insmod - <module_name>" ?  usb_storage now shows up in lsmod and i get this from dmesg when i insert the disk now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22698 ... no sd* entries were created in /dev uopn insertion nor are there any lines regarding sd* in dmesg output
[06:51] <reteph> would you recommend updating to 686 if we used a typical installation?
[06:51] <mad_man> LeeChangHao: or there are others
[06:51] <squeaks> "default         bb2-msfc-3031-0 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0", what is bb2-msfc ... it is supposed to be a gateway name, but where does that name come from?
[06:51] <sethk> reteph, you probably wouldn't really notice any difference
[06:52] <ChronoAU> how can i forwad ports(packets) to another computer (e.g. router) in ubuntu ?
[06:52] <Faithman> help anyone for getting Xfire on GAIM? having a bit of trouble here
[06:52] <azureal> maybe try #gaim
[06:52] <sethk> orbin, I was looking at what is compiled into my kernel (and so wouldn't show up in my lsmod listing) that is relevant.  You have scsi emulation of usb mass storage.  make sure you have SCSI disk support (in the kernel, or loaded as a module)
[06:53] <Faithman> okie
[06:53] <sethk> orbin, because your lower level USB dmesg output looks perfectly normal to me.
[06:53] <LeeChangHao> ok i changed the dns server, now if i ping www.url.com packets come back noticeably faster, but my point is still there, why does it resolve the name with every packet, and doesnt just remember the name/ip pairs?
[06:53] <sethk> LeeChangHao, well, the fundamental reason is that the protocol doesn't allow it
[06:54] <alex222> how do i view my xsession LOGS?
[06:54] <orbin> sethk: how would i find out which scsi module i need?  is there a list of available modules on the system?
[06:54] <sethk> LeeChangHao, you can set up your own caching dns server.  I use djbdns; there are several available.
[06:54] <mad_man> LeeChangHao: this one http://www.orsn.net/ or http://www.opendns.com/
[06:54] <alex222> I tried to boot into my XGL session I get a xsession error
[06:54] <alex222> how do i get that?
[06:54] <sethk> orbin, if you have the kernel source installed, you can do    make xconfig   (or make kconfig, or make menuconfig, depending on what GUI software you have).  If you don't have kernel source installed, install it, if only as documentation.
[06:55] <LeeChangHao> sethk, , but my router, wich uses a 2.4 kernel doesnt resolve the name before every single packet..
[06:55] <LeeChangHao> nor does windows
[06:55] <sethk> LeeChangHao, if you run packet traces, I don't think you will confirm that
[06:55] <levander> Are the breezy forums gone from ubuntuforums?
[06:55] <sethk> LeeChangHao, rather you'll see that the resolution is immediate because there is no delay at the server
[06:56] <sethk> LeeChangHao, there shouldn't be caching in the client.
[06:56] <levander> nm, found them, even though they closed them for some ungodly reason
[06:56] <sethk> LeeChangHao, as I said, you can set up a local caching dns server, but it isn't the default, nor should it be.
[06:56] <levander> no, that's the development forum for badger, i need the user support forums
[06:56] <sethk> LeeChangHao, any delay that you can notice will be due to delays at the server.  the time to send a request to the server and get a reply is negligable
[06:57] <LeeChangHao> okay, maybe my router is running one of those caching servers
[06:57] <sethk> LeeChangHao, quite possible.  it's logical for a router to be doing it.
[06:57] <sethk> LeeChangHao, doing it in individual hosts can cause problems.
[06:57] <sethk> LeeChangHao, the caching server has timeouts and interacts with other servers to prevent certain types of routing loops, and such.
[06:57] <KhanReaper> Hi, I am wondering how I can prevent my Gtk+ applications from assuming Qt themes while running KDE.
[06:58] <KhanReaper> I have looked at my installed packages as well as in kcontrol, and I do not see the Gtk+/Qt integration package installed or even running.
[06:59] <alex222> I tried to boot into my XGL session I get a xsession error
[06:59] <crimsun> KhanReaper: you can either remove ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and/or remove gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[06:59] <alex222> how do i get that?
[06:59] <KhanReaper> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt is not installed; that was what I was trying to say.
[06:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> alex222, what's the error?
[06:59] <alex222> i forgot
[06:59] <alex222> where can i get a log
[06:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> the actual error message would be very helpful
[06:59] <crimsun> KhanReaper: have you removed the conffile, too?
[07:00] <alex222> I want to know how to get a the log file
[07:00] <orbin> alex222: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:00] <crimsun> KhanReaper: is the package purged, too?
[07:00] <sethk> Alex, /var/log/X....
[07:00] <sethk> Alex, should be the only file beginning with X in /var/log
[07:00] <sethk> Alex, typical is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:00] <sethk> Alex, do ls -ltr /var/log/X*   and take the last line if there is more than one.
[07:01] <KhanReaper> crimsun: Neither the gtk theme rc file exists, nor was this package ever installed, implying that purging will not do. The particular application in question is Mozilla Firefox.
[07:01] <backz> hey
[07:01] <backz> please look:
[07:01] <backz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22701
[07:01] <holycow> !ubuntu+1
[07:01] <backz> I need help =P
[07:01] <LeeChangHao> sethk, you were right, my dns server was acting weird, and i didnt notice it from the router cause it had all the urls i tried cached, pinging an unusual url confirmed the delay using my isp's server
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <holycow> !edgy
[07:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:02] <crimsun> KhanReaper: is the symptom reproducible with a new user?
[07:02] <LeeChangHao> will dhcp override my new resolv.conf entries?
[07:02] <sethk> LeeChangHao, k, sounds like you are making progress
[07:02] <omnid> "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnustep-back-common_0.10.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb: files list file for package `libpam0g' is missing final newline"
[07:02] <alex222> it doesnt show the error i got
[07:02] <sethk> LeeChangHao, usually, yes.  you can configure it to use dns from dhcp, or to not use it.
[07:03] <sethk> LeeChangHao, and on the server side you can configure it to supply dns, or not supply it.
[07:03] <sethk> LeeChangHao, usually the client is configured to use it, if supplied, and then the server supplies it, or not.
[07:03] <LeeChangHao> i c
[07:04] <sethk> LeeChangHao, so the answer is maybe, and probably, but test it and see.
[07:04] <LeeChangHao> sudo dhcpclient eth1 right
[07:04] <GPLGeek> Howdy, I'm here doing an install for a friend and it seems with amd64 and i386 versions X wont start on his [ATI PCI-e 16x Radeon x800]  system with a [KT-890 Via chipset motherboard] .
[07:04] <DBO> LeeChangHao, sudo dhclient eth1
[07:04] <GPLGeek> Is there a problem with the ATI cards and the graphical installer?
[07:04] <LeeChangHao> thx
[07:05] <idm> ah ok... I remember thana mentioned another way and he said it is better than the default linux on... can't remember what's exactly the name
[07:05] <LeeChangHao> yeah it did override the entries
[07:05] <LeeChangHao> so i guess ill check in the router see what i can find
[07:06] <stritar> how can I auto-detect my new monitor(s) without redoing the whole xorg.conf using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[07:07] <KhanReaper> crimsun: I created a new user and "startx -- :2," so we'll find out in a second.
[07:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> stritar, you need to reconfigure. just backup your old file and then copy over the customizations afterwards
[07:07] <Killer_One> stupid question does amd 3200+ 64bit uses smp support or not
[07:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> Killer_One, looked up on google yet?
[07:07] <britt> how does one lock the screen without waiting x minutes? i'm using xfce
[07:08] <Killer_One> on it
[07:08] <stritar> Telroth_Plushie| ok
[07:08] <NickGarvey> Killer_One: whats smp again?
[07:08] <NickGarvey> Killer_One: oh, multi processing
[07:08] <Killer_One> yeah
[07:09] <NickGarvey> Killer_One: I am fairly sure it does
[07:09] <britt> NickGarvey: wait, do you have a brother named Chad?
[07:09] <KhanReaper> crimsun: Creating a new user doesn't fix it.
[07:09] <NickGarvey> britt: I don't have any brothers, one sister
[07:09] <britt> NickGarvey: sorry, what a coincidence
[07:09] <Killer_One> the reason i'm asking when i cat /proc/cpuinfo it just shows one proc and on and intel ht it shows two that throws me off
[07:10] <NickGarvey> britt: know someone else who is nick garvey? :)
[07:10] <JoseStefan> Killer_One, is it an X2 ?
[07:10] <britt> NickGarvey: yes i do actually...
[07:10] <crimsun> KhanReaper: is the only symptom that gtk+ themes are used? What if you remove libgtk2.0-0?
[07:10] <mistform> alright, is there anyone here who can help me with a Java problem? not programming, this is so I can get Frostwire to work
[07:10] <ChronoAU> exit
[07:10] <Killer_One> no nether the intel or amd is dual core
[07:11] <salkot> My network configuration tool doesn't show any wireless networks anymore, but I can still connect manually. Any suggestions?
[07:11] <dannyr> I have had trouble installing spamassassin on - can anyone suggest a good howto please.
[07:11] <NickGarvey> britt: where do you live?
[07:11] <mistform> salkot: what are you using for a wireless network manager?
[07:11] <JoseStefan> Killer_One, intel's HT is like a core and a half, it needs SMP to work
[07:11] <britt> NickGarvey: KY
[07:11] <NickGarvey> britt: NY for me
[07:12] <mistform> salkot: I use Wifi-radar, and it's great
[07:12] <salkot> mistform, i'll try installing that
[07:12] <nich0s_fr> JoseStefan, back again, i see
[07:12] <salkot> but i'm not optimistic
[07:12] <JoseStefan> nich0s_fr, i'm here
[07:12] <Killer_One> and amd has the something like hyper thread but called diffrent
[07:12] <backz> Hey, someone can run a ls -lad /
[07:12] <backz> ?
[07:13] <miteshag> i'm a newbie
[07:13] <Killer_One> just wondering thanks for the info
[07:13] <backz> I need see what permission mode is defined to /
[07:13] <mistform> salkot: uninstall your current network manager and then restart (with Wifi-radar) installed
[07:13] <Killer_One> ls -
[07:13] <miteshag> want somehelp regarding upgradin ubuntu 4.10
[07:13] <bless> how can i delete a file  by the console?
[07:13] <NickGarvey> bless: man rm
[07:13] <nich0s_fr> JoseStefan, do you enjoy doing this every night??
[07:14] <miteshag> can anybody guide me
[07:14] <salkot> mistform, I'm not sure that my current one should be uninstalled. It's the one at System > Administration > Networking
[07:14] <bless> NickGarvey, how?
[07:14] <JoseStefan> miteshag, what's 4.10's nickname?
[07:14] <JoseStefan> miteshag, hoary?
[07:14] <britt> NickGarvey: cool man
[07:14] <NickGarvey> bless: open a terminal and type "man rm"
[07:14] <Killer_One> and if it's a dir with file rm -rf
[07:14] <mistform> salkot: that's your wireless network configuratoin?
[07:14] <salkot> mistform, but I previously had NetworkManager installed, and that might have screwed things up....is there anything I should check?
[07:14] <insta> Hey guys ... what's the Xorg version standard for Dapper?
[07:14] <miteshag> warty whathdog
[07:14] <mistform> salkot: I meant your wireless network...
[07:14] <salkot> mistform, yes, my wireless
[07:14] <iix> hi i just installed ubuntu and why i type "su" and my password it wont login it sayz wrong auth ?
[07:14] <salkot> that's what I used before I tried out NM
[07:14] <nich0s_fr> iix, sudo :)
[07:15] <mistform> salkot: install wifi-radar and restart
[07:15] <iix> sudo then my password?
[07:15] <bless> i cant delete with the click options it say i dont have the allow, how can i rescate it?
[07:15] <mistform> use Wifi radar to connect to the network and disable your other
[07:15] <insta> iix: what are you trying to do?
[07:15] <iix> coz when i was installing it i set up my password for "iix" user
[07:15] <iix> apt-get
[07:15] <Killer_One> |iix> need to sudo -s
[07:15] <insta> sudo apt-get ...
[07:15] <iix> so..
[07:15] <nich0s_fr> iix, You will type "sudo -s"
[07:15] <iix> oh hk
[07:15] <JoseStefan> miteshag, you have to take a long route, and update to each and every one of the ubuntu releases since then
[07:15] <iix> and my password is same as "iix" user ?
[07:15] <insta> iix: it's better to just run 'sudo apt-get' ... it has better logging capabilities
[07:15] <nich0s_fr> yes
[07:16] <iix> cheers mate
[07:16] <miteshag> can't i upgrade directly to dapper drake
[07:16] <NickGarvey> miteshag: I would'nt suggest it
[07:16] <JoseStefan> miteshag, not that i recall
[07:16] <freakzoid0223> Im runnning xubuntu 6.06 my wireless shows up as active  eth0 in the live boot but when I installed it didnt. Looked at lsmod and lspci and it wasnt there(install ver)
[07:16] <insta> where might i find xorg version info for dapper though?
[07:16] <bless> how can i delete a file  by the console? what must i type
[07:17] <miteshag> ok can i install dapper over warty using iso image?
[07:17] <bless> how can i delete a file  by the console? what must i type
[07:17] <Killer_One> bless type rm thanfilename
[07:17] <bless> i t say that the file dont exist Killer_One
[07:18] <nich0s_fr> bless, make sure you are using the correct case.
[07:18] <nich0s_fr> if the file's name is Nich0s then you will need to type Nich0s... not nich0s
[07:18] <insta> anyone?  X -version please :(
[07:18] <Killer_One> bless type ls and see if the file exists the the directory your in
[07:18] <JoseStefan> miteshag, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[07:20] <bless> THANK S MAN
[07:20] <Flannel> miteshag: no, you need to upgrade one at a time.  Might be easier to reinstall, if youre on dialup, etc.
[07:20] <miteshag> sir i hv done that bt during installation by synaptic it gave followin error:
[07:20] <MrBrizzio> does anyone know how to configure a Buffalo Linux-based Router to allow traffic from my network to echo back through the net?
[07:21] <miteshag> This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential
[07:21] <miteshag> package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop.  This is often bad,
[07:21] <miteshag> but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
[07:21] <miteshag> E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs
[07:21] <jshriver> Greetings
[07:21] <jshriver> would someone help me setup my sound?
[07:21] <mad_man> !sound
[07:21] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:21] <jshriver> I just did a fresh install and dont get any sound
[07:22] <mad_man> jshriver: are the speekers turned on ?
[07:22] <miteshag> i can't get a solution for that
[07:22] <jshriver> yeah, it worked before, but did a fresh install..
[07:22] <jshriver> hrm I dont have a "Multumedia System" under Preferences
[07:22] <sethk> miteshag, your package data is in bad shape.
[07:23] <sethk> miteshag, you can probably get around it by uninstalling, and then installing, e2fsprogs, but that might just be one symptom of a more general problem.
[07:23] <miteshag> what should be done to fix that?
[07:23] <insta> I hate to be a pest ... but I really need to know if Dapper is Xorg7.0 or 7.1 before I try it ... can anyone check for me? :(
[07:23] <sethk> miteshag, any idea what caused it?
[07:23] <jshriver> Where is "Multimedia System Selector" located? I dont see that under System->Preferences
[07:23] <miteshag> no
[07:24] <sethk> jshriver, sounds like you haven't installed that part of the system yet
[07:24] <miteshag> i havn't installed any programmes on my machine
[07:24] <jshriver> ?
[07:24] <jshriver> just running the base install from the CD
[07:24] <sethk> miteshag, will it let you uninstall e2fsprogs?
[07:24] <miteshag> whatever i hv installed is by synaptic
[07:24] <LeeChangHao> in my system, i had to add it with alacarte jshriver
[07:24] <jshriver> and did a apt-get upgrade && apt-get updated
[07:24] <sethk> jshriver, sounds like a dapper glitch
[07:24] <jshriver> what do I add ?
[07:24] <sethk> jshriver, sounds like LeeChangHao fixed a similar problem.
[07:24] <miteshag> if that effected the system o
[07:25] <sethk> LeeChangHao, can you tell him specifically what to install?
[07:25] <mad_man> jshriver: have you look at the volume control in applications ?
[07:26] <jshriver> aye it's not application based.. I've already tested with mplayer/vlc/xmms
[07:26] <sethk> miteshag, try uninstalling, and then reinstalling, e2fsprogs.  that can't really hurt anything.  I'm not sure whether it will work, but if it doesn't, you'll get useful (hopefully) error messages.
[07:26] <LeeChangHao> well, im my fresh dapper  i just had to add the multimedia system selector using alacarte menu editor
[07:26] <jshriver> also tried upping the volume on everything in the Preferences of the Sound widget
[07:26] <miteshag> to sethk: ok i'm going to do tht
[07:26] <MrBrizzio> does anyone know how to configure a Buffalo Linux-based Router to allow traffic from my network to echo back through the net?
[07:26] <jshriver> use to have to run alsaconf to select my sound card, but can't find that
[07:27] <jshriver> tried apt-cache search alsaconf but it's nowhere in ubuntu.. even with multiverse/universe added
[07:27] <miteshag> to sethk: msg by synaptic: it can make system unusable
[07:28] <jshriver> or how do I tell the system which sound card to use?
[07:28] <jshriver> I selected the right card under "Volume Control Preferences"
[07:28] <JoseStefan> miteshag, can you "reinstall" the package without removing?
[07:28] <miteshag> plz guide me fr that
[07:29] <LeeChangHao> volume applet wont affect the system default output
[07:29] <JoseStefan> miteshag, i dont know if that version of synaptic has that feature
[07:29] <jshriver> what can I do to tell the system which card to use?
[07:29] <LeeChangHao> use the multimedia system selector...
[07:29] <JoseStefan> miteshag, right click the pkg, select reinstall
[07:29] <jshriver> I have an onboard sound that's toast. but linux still picks it up as a device, but use a PCI card for actual sound
[07:30] <jshriver> where is the multimedia system selector?
[07:30] <miteshag> it had the feature of reinstallation bt is nt showing over that package
[07:30] <silent_scream> hey guys i'm trying to mount an iso, but i get this error message, what's going on? mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[07:30] <silent_scream>        missing codepage or other error
[07:30] <silent_scream>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:30] <silent_scream>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:30] <miteshag> the fact is that i hd marked to intall the new kernel
[07:30] <LeeChangHao> again, type alacarte in the alt+f2 box and it will bring a menu editor where you can add multimedia system selector to the preferences menu
[07:31] <jshriver> mount -o loop whatever.iso /media/loop
[07:31] <miteshag> bt after downloadin it the error ws shoen
[07:31] <jshriver> what package do I have to install to get the multimedia system selector?
[07:31] <LeeChangHao> you dont have to install any package >.<
[07:31] <jshriver> hrm.. so my system is just screwed up? lol..
[07:32] <jshriver> do you have to be logged in as root to get that option?
[07:32] <LeeChangHao> nope
[07:32] <jshriver> confused
[07:32] <miteshag> to josestephan: cn i run iso image, i don't hv cd drive, on this one to install new kernel?
[07:32] <miteshag> i hv downloaded it
[07:33] <LeeChangHao> ok, just  type gstreamer-properties in a terminal
[07:33] <LeeChangHao> thats to jshriver
[07:33] <JoseStefan> miteshag: no, you can't safely install dapper over warty
[07:33] <jshriver> ok trying
[07:33] <jshriver> it's running
[07:33] <jshriver> hrm
[07:34] <miteshag> also not by runnrin iso image of dapper desktop?
[07:34] <jshriver> does ubuntu use alsa by default?
[07:34] <LeeChangHao> i think it does, at least in my setup
[07:34] <JoseStefan> miteshag: you have to go in steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:35] <jshriver> I'm running the test, is there supposed to be sound or how long do I let this thing run?
[07:35] <LeeChangHao> it should sound right after you click
[07:35] <LeeChangHao> make sure you selected the pci card in  gnome-sound-properties
[07:36] <jshriver> hrm... Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon' Without the GNOME settings manager running.. blah blah
[07:36] <miteshag> to josestephan: ok i wl try to fix it as u suggested
[07:36] <LeeChangHao> that when you try to run the sound properties?
[07:37] <GPLGeek> Did anyone else have a problem getting the installer CD to boot into graphical mode? (ATI, X fails)
[07:37] <jshriver> hrm was trying to run from root.. ran fine from the user end
[07:37] <jshriver> Ok I changed the "Default sound card"
[07:38] <jshriver> but when I hit close, and reload it.. it seems to revert to the original one hrm
[07:38] <LeeChangHao> yeah it happens sometimes to me when i plug my usb speakers
[07:38] <LeeChangHao> i cant remember how i fix it
[07:39] <kc> OK, so I'm very impressed with ubuntu... except why is it runnin at a QUARTER of the speed of Winblows XP?
[07:39] <jshriver> brb going to try rebooting
[07:40] <kc> no takers?
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> GPLGeek: I have not, but I believe there is some sort of "Safe graphics" mode I think that might be worth trying.
[07:40] <GPLGeek> tonyyarusso, Ya that wont work either
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> kc: Running, not booting?  Anything specific?
[07:41] <GPLGeek> but thx for the info
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> GPLGeek: Better luck with someone else then.
[07:41] <kc> Running great... better than SUSE or Fedora... Everything WORKS! HOOT!!!
[07:41] <kc> ... only SLOW
[07:41] <kc> Compaq EvoN600c
[07:41] <kc> PIII Mobile... 700/1.2 512MB 40GB
[07:42] <kc> Radeon Mobility... the damn 3d effects in the SS work great too...
[07:42] <kc> IDK
[07:42] <LeeChangHao> SS, IDK?
[07:42] <kc> screen saver
[07:43] <LeeChangHao> ah, yeah, those great screensavers that consume 100% of the cpu
[07:43] <jshriver> Thanks! it works now
[07:43] <orbin> kc: specs aren't that bad. what exactly is running slow?  just the general system?
[07:43] <kc> personally... its the best thing to show off about linux lately... LOL... office workers and girlfrineds are really impressed by pretty spiraling colors
[07:43] <kc> yes
[07:43] <kc> generally...
[07:43] <jshriver> guess it was just stale information.. prob didnt need to reboot at all.. shoudl have tried ctrl-alt-backspace and relogged in
[07:43] <kc> it even recognized 2 out of 3 WLAN cards w no config...
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> kc: There are some things, like prelink, that will help programs open faster, and there are various guides scattered about the web on speeding up Ubuntu if you care to look at those.  Also, watch the system monitor to see if anything funny is going on, like beagle indexing.
[07:43] <jshriver> LeeChangHAo thanks very much for your help
[07:44] <LeeChangHao> jshriver, im glad it works, but if the built in sound is fried disabling it in the bios will  probably avoid problems in the future
[07:44] <kc> ok... "beagle indexing"... never heard of it... will look it up...
[07:44] <kc> ty
[07:44] <kc> is this a common question tony?
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> btw, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace on my dad's machine in Kubuntu, rather than restarting X, blanked the screen and totally froze up the system.  Needed a hard restart.
[07:44] <jshriver> LeeChangHao aye, I tried that.. which is weird because linux still detects it *shrug*
[07:44] <kc> eek
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> kc: Not too much, but lots of people try to run Linux on old low-spec machines, so it comes up in that context.  (Beagle is a search program, so when it indexes it uses a fair bit of resources.)
[07:45] <kc> k... like locate... only on steroids?
[07:45] <kc> Does it run for a few hours of so and then only update periodically?
[07:45] <jshriver> by chance any of you into embedded systems?
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> kc: And with a pretty interface.
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> kc: Few minutes.
[07:46] <kc> Heh heh
[07:46] <kc> ok...then just by symptom... thats not it
[07:46] <Anubuntu> I need to send some files to a mac computer on my network, from my ubuntu machine. Can someone tell me the best way to set up a filesharing network between the two computers?
[07:46] <Awesome-o2000> ssh?
[07:46] <jshriver> samba? ssh?
[07:47] <Awesome-o2000> if you're using osx Im pretty sure ssh is part of iut
[07:47] <jshriver> samba might be easier
[07:47] <jshriver> aye I use to have an OS X box.. just setup a samba share.. on your linux box.. and mount it under OS X.. will show up as a drive
[07:47] <Anubuntu> samba=windows file sharing. ssh= ?
[07:47] <jshriver> ssh = secure shell, but can be used to tunnel anything in a secure encrypted manner
[07:47] <Anubuntu> ah
[07:48] <orbin> tonyyarusso: weird.  i never noticed beagle, and my lappy's HDD is slow as.  is it a part of the default dapper install?
[07:48] <Awesome-o2000> scp
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> orbin: No.  Might be default in Edgy though; we'll see.
[07:49] <jshriver> scp is nice, but not friendly to the novice.. samba is a lot easier to use, set and figure out
[07:49] <jshriver> just my oppinion though
[07:49] <Jared777> How can I merge 2 partitions in Linux?
[07:49] <jshriver> qtparted
[07:50] <Jared777> qtparted doesn't have a merge option
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> Well, I should be getting to bed.
[07:50] <kc> thanks t
[07:51] <Jared777> First program I tried to merge them though it did  allow me to resize the windows partition
[07:52] <kc> Any other takers on why Ubuntu runs slower than molasses on my machine, when XP and Fedora run at a respectable speed?
[07:52] <SurfnKid> mm
[07:52] <Awesome-o2000> buggy acpi
[07:52] <kc> disable acpi?
[07:52] <kc> I think I saw an article or two about that
[07:52] <sethk> kc, start by replacing the kernel with the one from kernel.org
[07:53] <kc> really?!
[07:53] <sethk> kc, keep the old one, of course
[07:53] <kc> slight kernel hiccup?
[07:53] <kc> HAHA
[07:53] <sethk> kc, that would be my guess, but it's only a somewhat educated guess
[07:53] <sethk> kc, run top, see what processes are using what resources
[07:53] <kc> its really weird... ubuntu works better than friggin XP...
[07:53] <kc> but its slower than a 286
[07:54] <sethk> kc, it could be an acpi issue
[07:54] <kc> wouldnt that screw up my laptop functionality
[07:54] <sethk> kc, if it thinks the processor is running hot, it will ramp down the speed
[07:54] <kc> ok
[07:54] <kc> ok
[07:54] <kc> right
[07:54] <kc> gotcha
[07:54] <reganzi> hi, can anyone help me out with a NIC related issue? (sk98lin won't detect my card)
[07:54] <kc> is there a fix?
[07:54] <sethk> turning it off is a test, not a fix
[07:54] <kc> kbesides disabling?
[07:54] <kc> cool
[07:54] <sethk> kc, first see if that's really the issue
[07:54] <sethk> there are other possibilities.
[07:54] <JoseStefan> kc, it might be running at the lower of the 2 speeds
[07:55] <kc> Right... damn glad I stopped by here tonight
[07:55] <kc> Jose... I run it on batteries all the time... (in XP, at half speed) and it cruises like a champ
[07:55] <kc> instead of running like its a 700MHz...
[07:55] <salkot> how come I can only play one sound at once?
[07:56] <kc> it runs like its serioously a PII 200
[07:56] <sethk> kc, take it systematically, gather some data.
[07:56] <kc> which I still have running tertiary DNS btw... hee hee
[07:56] <sethk> kc, eventually you'll figure it out.
[07:56] <kc> is there any more stripped down version of ubuntu?
[07:56] <sethk> salkot, usually that means that the sound server isn't running.  so one process grabs the sound device, and all the others fail to get it.
[07:57] <salkot> sethk, why would the sound server not run?
[07:57] <kc> maybe one of those LFS-style... ro Pocket Linux style projects?
[07:57] <sethk> kc, there is, or you can install a minimal system in expert mode (which I would recommend)
[07:57] <sethk> salkot, not installed?  not configured?  hard to say.  check whether it is true, then worry about why.  :)
[07:57] <reganzi> er, quick question - maybe easier: is there any advantage to using the server distribution of ubuntu if i still have to compile a new kernel?
[07:57] <kc> htf do I get to expert mode... didnt see it... its in the main install fine print right?
[07:57] <sethk> kc, I think for dapper you have to use the alternate install cd
[07:57] <salkot> ok
[07:57] <kc> damn...  seth... thank-you very much
[07:58] <kc> I'll go work on these bites for the night
[08:00] <salkot> sethk, there are two instances of esd running -- does that answer the question?
[08:00] <sethk> salkot, kill one of them
[08:00] <salkot> one is running as my user, one as root
[08:00] <sethk> reganzi, apples and oranges.
[08:01] <sethk> salkot, that's interesting.  I use kde which uses a different sound server, though, so I'm not clear on exactly what is going on there.
[08:01] <salkot> ok
[08:01] <silent_scream> is there any way to mount an .mdf / .mds file?
[08:01] <sethk> reganzi, I would use the expert mode and install the things you need.
[08:01] <ISOLATEDViRuS> uhh.
[08:01] <silent_scream> without to convert it into .iso
[08:01] <ISOLATEDViRuS> whats the word im looking for
[08:02] <ISOLATEDViRuS> opposite of being philosophical, and means believeing ina  religion..
[08:02] <kc> fundamental
[08:02] <kc> ?
[08:02] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i dont think religionistic is the word im looking for,,,
[08:02] <kc> LOL
[08:02] <ISOLATEDViRuS> not fundamental, its not a radical standing point.
[08:02] <dave> hello
[08:02] <dave> everyone
[08:03] <dave> can someone hello me
[08:03] <kc> OH... I get it ISOLATED... RTFM... hee hee
[08:03] <silent_scream> hello dave
[08:03] <kc> nobody can read... thats why they are here
[08:03] <reganzi> sethk, does expert mode just let you select what modules to load or is it something more? (because the module i want inserts fine but still doesnt work.)
[08:03] <dave> how cani config my screen resolution on my unbuntu
[08:04] <dave> ??
[08:04] <JoseStefan> !xconfig > dave
[08:04] <sethk> reganzi, expert mode refers to installing parts of the system, not parts of the kernel.
[08:04] <sethk> reganzi, I think perhaps the answer to your original question is no
[08:04] <blind> dave: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <kc> In other flavors of Linux its been called Selecting Individual Packages for Install
[08:04] <blind> sudo that, dave
[08:05] <sethk> reganzi, because choosing one or another of the package lists doesn't have much impact on the kernel.  If a kernel module isn't working, it is almost certainly not because a particular package is, or isn't, installed
[08:05] <sethk> reganzi, what module are we talking about ?
[08:05] <reganzi> well, my issues is that my card should be supported by module sk98lin or skge but it won't detect it so i'm trying to include them in teh kernel directly to see if it helps.
[08:06] <sethk> reganzi, there is a version of that driver available on the Marvell web site with many, many, many fixes.
[08:06] <kintaro0e> hi guys..i need help on ssl..how to make ssl cert for my irc.foo.com
[08:06] <sethk> reganzi, it has to be built from source, though.
[08:06] <dave> my is xserver is not installed
[08:06] <sethk> reganzi, you have to take the kernel source, and drop the newer driver source into the tree, and then build the kernel.
[08:06] <sethk> dave, it's harder to configure it when it isn't installed.  :)
[08:06] <sethk> dave, sounds like you need to install it?
[08:07] <dave> ok
[08:07] <dave> can you help me sethk
[08:07] <reganzi> also, i tried to build the module from source but it never builds properly. (i was using pure debian but eventually i found a site claiming that i needed a kernel > 2.6.8 which is why i tried ubuntu)
[08:07] <sethk> reganzi, I happen to have been working recently with an embedded system using two different Marvell chips that use that driver, so I've gotten into the details quite a bit.
[08:07] <sethk> reganzi, use the kernel from kernel.org.  neither debian's, nor ubuntu's, is going to work with the updated marvell code.
[08:07] <reganzi> on both distro's there are errors while in teh compile stage, even though the install script claims i've met every prerequisite to build the driver.
[08:08] <sethk> reganzi, yes, I know.  I've only gotten the driver to build properly with the kernel from kernel.org.
[08:08] <reganzi> oh, ok.
[08:08] <sethk> reganzi, it's a PITA, I know, but as I said there are a lot of important bug fixes in it.
[08:09] <sethk> dave, what do you need to do, exactly?  I'm sure someone here can help you, but you have to ask a more specific question.  (Or ask it again, if I missed it.  :)  )
[08:09] <reganzi> thank you.
[08:09] <mad_man>  Matrox Linux Driver Install Script:ERROR: Could not find X server driver install path. where did i go wrong ?
[08:09] <sethk> reganzi, np.  I hope I actually helped, rather than just confused.
[08:09] <sethk> mad_man, probably don't have the X development packages installed
[08:10] <sethk> mad_man, or the X server itself, even.
[08:10] <sethk> mad_man, where did that script come from?
[08:10] <topa_> I need to know if there are any large scale deployments of Ubuntu-server in the enterprise
[08:10] <mad_man> sethk: yes yes how ?
[08:10] <topa_> any links on the above question would be helpful
[08:10] <sethk> mad_man, what are you installing, exactly?  Obviously a matrox driver, but from where?
[08:11] <reganzi> i may need more help getting the kernel running as i've only ever built a kernel by following distro specific tutorials.
[08:11] <mad_man> sethk: my desktop
[08:11] <Madpilot> topa_, there have been; Canonical hasn't mentioned many names yet, though. There have been some large school deployments publicly discussed, though.
[08:11] <sethk> topa_, I don't know, sorry.   I have about 20 of them, but that doesn't really count.  :)
[08:11] <sethk> mad_man, you get that during an apt-get install?  Or an install from synaptic?
[08:12] <mad_man> sethk: no, I DL to my desktop and uncommpress
[08:12] <dave> well sethk my screen resolution is 640x480 and i don't like that Res i want it 1024x780 i think
[08:13] <sethk> dave, and what happened when you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[08:13] <sethk> mad_man, from source?  that's not a trivial thing to do.  are you trying to install from source, rather than from packages, for some reason?
[08:14] <dave> it tells me that xserver is not installed and it is not available
[08:14] <topa_> Madpilot: is there any page which carries info on those deployments which canonical has named ?
[08:14] <sethk> dave, if that were true, though, you wouldn't have 640x480, either, you would just have a console.
[08:14] <mad_man> sethk: from source i wood say, no packages, i'm new to linux and trying to learn
[08:15] <Madpilot> topa_, I'm not sure - check ubuntu.com or canonical.com
[08:15] <topa_> Madpilot: and.. schools != enterprise deployments :)
[08:15] <sethk> mad_man, then you'll have to get into the documentation at the xorg web site.
[08:15] <dave> true but i don't have the console
[08:15] <mad_man> thinking, thinking, do u see the smoke
[08:15] <sethk> dave, this is a new install?
[08:15] <dave> i know its my monitor
[08:15] <dave> yes
[08:15] <miteshag> to sethk: sir i think i hv filled my apt file with lot of junk upgrade while trying to upgrade from 4.10 to 6.06
[08:16] <dave> this is a new install
[08:16] <sethk> dave, no, if it were your monitor, there is no way dpkg-reconfigure would tell you the X server is not installed
[08:16] <sethk> miteshag, that is quite possible.
[08:16] <miteshag> to sethk: can u suggest hw to clean it
[08:16] <dave> hummm
[08:16] <miteshag> or manage it?
[08:16] <dave> well
[08:16] <dave> what can i do then
[08:17] <JoseStefan> miteshag, downgrading broken packages to 4.10
[08:17] <sethk> miteshag, I don't know enough yet about the internal formats of the package data.  I have many years of linux experience but I still need to learn the internals of dpkg
[08:17] <sethk> miteshag, I've not seen programs to fix up the package database, which surprises me.
[08:17] <miteshag> to josestepghan: hw cn i do that?
[08:18] <dave> sethtk do you know anything on DVB cards and TV tuners cards
[08:18] <nailbags|work> i want my laptop to hibernate when i press the 'sleep' button (currently it suspends-to-ram). hibernation works if i run /usr/shared/hal/scripts/hal-system-power/hibernate, but i can't get it to hibernate when i press the button, it always suspends-to-ram. i've dug around /etc/acpi to no avail. can anyone help?
[08:18] <mad_man> sethk: i'm doing a binary install of the driver
[08:18] <sethk> miteshag, there are flags you can use with dpkg to tell it to ignore various errors, and there are a few flags to attempt to repair things, but I don't think they will help you, I think they are too basic.
[08:18] <sethk> mad_man, ok
[08:18] <JoseStefan> miteshag, 1) set your sources.list to match warty
[08:18] <nailbags|work> nailbags|work: i'm using dapper, btw
[08:18] <mad_man> <=speed reading
[08:18] <sethk> dave, not really much, no.  I haven't looked at them for several months.
[08:18] <miteshag> then,
[08:19] <dave> ok
[08:19] <dave> thanks
[08:19] <dave> i guess i need to buy a new crt then
[08:19] <JoseStefan> miteshag, it's kind of messy here could you join #miteshag
[08:19] <chalcedony> has anyone ever seen a segmentation fault on ubuntu when an irc operator opers?
[08:19] <sethk> nailbags|work, there is a script burried somewhere in /etc/rc*, that you'll have to adjust.  sorry I don't remember the specifics.
[08:19] <mad_man> sethk: i have a
[08:19] <mad_man> Red
[08:19] <mad_man> Hat Linux 9.0
[08:20] <reganzi> whats the default mountpoint for a usb drive?
[08:20] <mad_man> sorry my bad
[08:20] <sethk> reganzi, in ubuntu /media/usbdisk  I believe
[08:20] <swuboo> reganzi:  I believe it depends on the USB drive.
[08:20] <swuboo> Mine opens in /media/CORSAIR
[08:20] <reganzi> nope, doesnt appear.
[08:20] <sethk> swuboo, reganzi, the name choice is part of the udev configuration
[08:21] <chalcedony> what to type to show which ubuntu distro?
[08:21] <mad_man> i have a red hat 9.0 manual, i can't seem to find a ubuntu 6.06 one
[08:21] <swuboo> sethk: Hmm?
[08:21] <sethk> reganzi, if it is mounted, all you have to do is type mount (no arguments) and you'll see it.
[08:21] <nailbags|work> sethk: you mean edit an actual init script? that really doesn't seem right!
[08:21] <JoseStefan> miteshag, it's kind of messy here could you join channel #miteshag
[08:21] <sethk> swuboo, the udev configuration, which handles dynamic devices, is where that name is burried.
[08:22] <sethk> nailbags|work, the only way I've seen that works.
[08:22] <swuboo> So you're saying that udev maintains a list of USBdisk types and returns a name from its stockpile?
[08:22] <sethk> nailbags|work, if you can find something less ugly, then by all means use it.
[08:22] <nailbags|work> sethk: /etc/rc* are symlinks to /etc/init.d, so you are talking about editing /etc/init.d/acpi* right?
[08:23] <nailbags|work> sethk: the docs on the wiki seem incorrect too
[08:23] <sethk> swuboo, not exactly.  when the device is detected, there is code that is executed, and that code is based on the vendor and device IDs.  that's why a particular brand of usb will have a different name than another brand.
[08:23] <reganzi> apperently it didn't automount my usbkey, but it did write some junk about /dev/sda to console when i inserted it
[08:23] <swuboo> Gotcha.
[08:23] <dave> yeah
[08:23] <dave> yeah
[08:23] <cmpalmer> chalcedony: you're trying to figure out which ubuntu distro a machine is running?
[08:23] <sethk> nailbags|work, the wiki is questionable, I agree.  I'm not certain about the script name, it was a few months ago that I dug it up.
[08:23] <nailbags|work> sethk: do you have it working?
[08:24] <dave> yeah
[08:24] <sethk> nailbags|work, I do, but the machine isn't here, it's at work.  I can't get at it until tomorrow.
[08:24] <nailbags|work> anyone else successfully have there sleep button mapped to hibernate?
[08:24] <sethk> nailbags|work, I'll try to check in tomorrow night around the same time.  right now it's 2:30 am here and I'm drifting off and my brain is only slightly working.  :)
[08:24] <dave> man the res on my monitor is too big
[08:24] <swuboo> Does anyone know if it's possible to get lmsensors working with an nForce 570 chipset?
[08:25] <nailbags|work> sethk: ok, thanks ;)
[08:25] <jojoman02> can anyone with bartpe experince help me (networking is asking for a password)
[08:25] <swuboo> There's an i2c driver available for the nForce 4** chipsets, but I can't find anything on the 5** series.
[08:28] <swuboo> Ah, well.  Guess not.
[08:30] <lordhelmet> so does anybody else not like cups 1.2?
[08:30] <nalpha> guys can i make keyboard shorcut for show dekstop on ubuntu?
[08:30] <squeaks> i just apt-get install netpipe-tcp, but i can't find where it put the binary or what files it installed, how to check that?
[08:31] <swuboo> I think it's Ctrl-Alt-d by default, nalpha.
[08:31] <dave> so how can i install xserver then people
[08:31] <dave> i'm new to this
[08:32] <lordhelmet> dave: apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[08:32] <swuboo> nalpha: Under System, Preferences, Keyboard shortcuts.  Like I said, it's Ctrl-Alt-d by default in Dapper, but you can reassign it.
[08:34] <usli> guys
[08:34] <usli> need help
[08:34] <lordhelmet> can anybody suggest anything for me? i have cups working sort of. it prints from windows, prints from gentoo (all i had to do in gentoo was change 'localhost' to my server name in one file and it worked) but in kubuntu on my laptop, it 'prints' and the job lists as completed on both the localhost and server but all the printer does is warmup like it's going to print but does nothing
[08:34] <usli> do u know how to configure bluetooth in ubuntu?
[08:35] <swuboo> lordhelmet: Have you set up the printer with the correct driver?
[08:36] <swuboo> usli:  Sorry, not personally.
[08:36] <nailbags|work>  i want my laptop to hibernate when i press the 'sleep' button (currently it suspends-to-ram). hibernation works if i run /usr/shared/hal/scripts/hal-system-power/hibernate, but i can't get it to hibernate when i press the button, it always suspends-to-ram. i've dug around /etc/acpi to no avail. can anyone help?
[08:36] <lordhelmet> swuboo: yes..brother hl2040 using the brother lpr/cupswrapper
[08:36] <usli> well
[08:36] <usli> is there a way
[08:36] <usli> or is it possible to have bluetooth in ubuntu ?
[08:37] <mad_man> !bluetooth
[08:37] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:37] <lordhelmet> usli: yes, but i'm not sure how....look around for the bluez libs and bluetooth stuff in kcontrol
[08:37] <usli> ok
[08:37] <usli> thanks
[08:37] <swuboo> lordhelmet: Bugger.  I don't really know what to tell you, then.  I know I had a lot of problems printing in Breezy, until it started working by itself.  Then my HD died and I ran off a liveCD.
[08:38] <swuboo> The Dapper liveCD couldn't be made to print for love nor money, but now that I've got an HD install again, it prints absolutely perfectly and with no real tinkering.
[08:38] <lordhelmet> swuboo: really? everything worked in breezy but dapper/cups 1.2 broke printing hardcore for me
[08:38] <lordhelmet> swuboo: it almost made me switch back to breezy on my sever
[08:39] <swuboo> Printing in Ubuntu seems to be governed by phases of the moon and ancient voudoun hexes, rather than by logic.
[08:39] <lordhelmet> OT wow has anybody seen District 13? some sweet French gangsta rap
[08:39] <lordhelmet> great movie
[08:39] <birdfish> What is a similar command to "pw groupadd ftpgroup"?
[08:39] <lordhelmet> swuboo: lol
[08:39] <birdfish> I need to create a password file for the group account
[08:40] <birdfish> But it tells me that pw is an unrecognized command
[08:40] <lordhelmet> swuboo: i seem to remember having this problem before, but i don't remember if/how i solved it
[08:40] <birdfish> Oops, nevermind, that's BSD style command
[08:40] <birdfish> =)
[08:41] <swuboo> I'm fairly sure that when I had the liveCD, I could only print during a waxing gibbous while pouring the blood of a freshly slain chicken onto an infant.
[08:41] <swuboo> But hey, it works fine now.  It even very intelligently handles printing oddsized html documents onto letter paper.
[08:42] <WinterWolf> Hello, when I try to run glxgears do i get this error messege "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" will i need to install new grafic drivers
[08:42] <swuboo> WinterWolf:  nVidia or ATI card?
[08:42] <kc> BRAVO! swuboo... BRAVO!
[08:42] <WinterWolf> nvidia
[08:42] <swuboo> kc: Thanks.
[08:43] <swuboo> WinterWolf:  The open-source nv drivers won't do glxgears.  Or much else.
[08:43] <WinterWolf> i run 64 too if needed
[08:43] <kc> heh heh... only I have that kind of flavor with words...
[08:43] <kc> G'night all... thanks for the help!
[08:43] <swuboo> Well, you just need the proprietary nvidia binaries.
[08:43] <lordhelmet> stupid printing...
[08:44] <swuboo> I think the package is called nvidia-glx
[08:44] <WinterWolf> yeah i'm thinking about installing the non GPU nvidia drivers but i don't know what driver to use :P
[08:44] <ompaul> !nvidia > WinterWolf
[08:44] <someone> Hallo,
[08:44] <ompaul> WinterWolf, please read the message ubotu sent you
[08:45] <Kirana> hello, could i ask a ubuntu question?
[08:45] <ompaul> !ask
[08:45] <lordhelmet> doing the printing in gentoo was the best thing ever...i changed 'server name = localhost' to 'server name = myserver' or whatever the line was, and restarted cups, and both my printers were there and just worked
[08:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:45] <FirstStrike> Well, this is the #ubuntu channel.
[08:45] <someone> can anyone help me, I am getting boot message: "PCI: cannot alocate resource region 7"
[08:45] <Kirana> I tried booting up my Ubuntu Live CD and it's my USB keyboard isn't working
[08:45] <lordhelmet> someone: does it still boot and work fine?
[08:45] <someone> Yes!
[08:45] <Kirana> but i've seen the USB drivers being loaded up
[08:46] <Kirana> ubotu: thanks
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <Kirana> :)
[08:46] <lordhelmet> someone: well then who cares? i get those messages once in awhile but everything works so i don't worry about it
[08:46] <Kirana> lols
[08:46] <jshriver> hi again, can't sleep
[08:46] <lordhelmet> :D
[08:46] <jjjjjjj> holy crap... i started downloading the repos yesterday and i just finished today
[08:46] <jshriver> When you do "apt-get source package" where does it put the source?
[08:46] <someone> lordhelmet: So, you think, I should not be worried?
[08:46] <ompaul> someone, have a look at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-185652.html
[08:47] <lordhelmet> someone: nope
[08:47] <lordhelmet> someone: if something is not working then you worry. if everything works, don't worry...be happy
[08:47] <ompaul> jjjjjjj, well there are over 25 gigs of main and universe
[08:48] <swuboo> Wait, you downloaded everything the repositories?
[08:48] <jjjjjjj> 6.06 runs like a dog
[08:48] <someone> Thanks! Maybe I am just too perfectionish! Like when everything is nice and smooth!
[08:48] <jjjjjjj> so i reformatted and installed "server" 5.10
[08:48] <jjjjjjj> then upgraded to edubuntu
[08:48] <swuboo> I don't blame you, someone.  That kind of stuff bothers me, too.
[08:49] <swuboo> I'm finding 6.06 to be quite nice; it even distributes load between my proc cores quite nicely.
[08:49] <usli> guys
[08:49] <usli> any ofu had experience with bluetooth in ubuntu ?
[08:49] <jjjjjjj> not on this 800mhz celeron with 256 big ones.
[08:50] <swuboo> Ah.  Yes.  I can see where that might be a bit problematic.
[08:51] <swuboo> usli: I suspect everyone who has is probably AFK.  I certainly haven't.
[08:51] <usli> ok
[08:51] <usli> i'll wait
[08:51] <lordhelmet> 6.06 is wicked...except for cups.....i hate 1.2
[08:51] <usli> my phone can detect the bluetooth in ubuntu
[08:51] <lordhelmet> but i'm off....first day of class tomorrow...
[08:51] <usli> but when i'm about to send the file
[08:51] <usli> it said sending failed
[08:51] <usli> :(
[08:52] <nalpha> nalpha
[08:52] <gimmulf> Whats the easiest way to use if i want to crypt my whole system?
[08:52] <Hyakutaro> could someone tell me how to change colours in irssi?
[08:54] <gimmulf> !crypt
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <yahya> How do I check from the command line if a package is installed or not?
[08:54] <WinterWolf> if i got AMD 3400+ should i install the nvidia drivers for AMD 8k
[08:55] <WinterWolf> K8*
[08:55] <someone> Sorry! My connection is slow and bad. I was asking about the problem of: "PCI: cannot allocate resource region 7"
[08:55] <^Down> Does anyone else have trouble with gPHPEdit?
[08:55] <ompaul> someone, have a look at this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-185652.html
[08:55] <swuboo> Not quite sure, Winterwolf.
[08:55] <swuboo> It'd be either that or K7.
[08:55] <steppe> gimmulf what kind of crypt?
[08:55] <swuboo> Try looking up your processor model.
[08:56] <someone> ompaul: I just have looked, but I am not sure what is relevant for me, except that there is a guy with the same problem.
[08:56] <gimmulf> steppe:  something that is hard to crack
[08:59] <zptao> hello, i have this problem with my raptor
[08:59] <zptao> ever since i installed ubuntu, my drive has been making a consistent buzzing sound
[09:00] <zptao> it happens whether or not i'm using ubuntu
[09:00] <zptao> how can i fix this?
[09:00] <sethk> zptao, constantly?  periodically?
[09:00] <zptao> constantly
[09:01] <WinterWolf> ok did see what my cpu was  :) but i don't understand the diffrence between
[09:01] <WinterWolf> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8
[09:01] <WinterWolf> and
[09:01] <WinterWolf> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-amd64-generic
[09:01] <zptao> and it makes clicking sounds when there are data accesses to the drive
[09:01] <swuboo> That's the kernel, not the driver.
[09:01] <sethk> zptao, there is a noise I call the popcorn noise.  It's an indication that the drives are dying.
[09:01] <zptao> sethk: it's brand new
[09:01] <sethk> zptao, dump out the S.M.A.R.T data
[09:02] <swuboo> One is optimized for AMD K8 processors in particular, the other is for generic 64 bit processors, including intel ones, I believe.
[09:02] <zptao> sethk: how do i get that?
[09:02] <swuboo> !k8
[09:02] <sethk> zptao, makes no difference.  I had a set of four identical ones that did this.  brand new
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <sethk> zptao, you need the program smartutil  (or smartutl, I can look it up)
[09:02] <zptao> sethk: thanks, i'm going to sleep now
[09:02] <sethk> zptao, it will dump the drive's internal error logs.
[09:02] <zptao> i'll try later
[09:03] <sethk> zptao, ok, me to, I'll talk to you need time.
[09:04] <swuboo> WinterWolf:  It's a single core AMD 64 3400+?
[09:04] <Wettendorff> how can i edit and save a file that is owned by the root???
[09:04] <swuboo> By prepending the editing program's command with sudo, Wettendorff.
[09:04] <swuboo> i.e. sudo gedit FILE
[09:05] <Wettendorff> swuboo: okay.. thanks..
[09:05] <goodluck> what is the term. cmd to bring up "Login Window" from the menu?
[09:08] <goodluck> just look in the menu someone please
[09:09] <swuboo> Look where in the menu, exactly?
[09:09] <goodluck> what is the term. cmd to bring up "Login Window" from the menu?
[09:09] <goodluck> terminal command
[09:09] <swuboo> Right, I know what you want me to look up, but I have no idea where on the menu I'd find that.
[09:10] <swuboo> Particularly since my menu doesn't have a Login Window button.
[09:10] <hondje> That doesn't make sense, unless you're talking about like xnest or something
[09:10] <goodluck> gnome menu ubuntu
[09:11] <goodluck> login window in settings
[09:11] <goodluck> need to bring it up as a command
[09:12] <hondje> goodluck: Oh, you should work on your phrasing. The command is gdmsetup
[09:13] <goodluck> thank you
[09:13] <Typhon> hello
[09:13] <WinterWolf> do anypne know a program that tracks sytem tempure for CPU or System or GPU? or where i can find it
[09:14] <Typhon> anyone know anything about PXE boot from a windows box? I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a optical-less computer
[09:15] <siimo> hi is gnome 2.16 already in edgy eft? appearently today is the release day of gnome 2.16
[09:15] <swuboo> WinterWolf: lmsensors.
[09:15] <swuboo> But I have yet to get it to work on my system.
[09:16] <Madpilot> !sensors
[09:16] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:16] <Madpilot> swuboo ^ WinterWolf ^^^
[09:17] <WinterWolf> thanks, did try to search on some terms but i should have searched on senors :D
[09:17] <swuboo> I already followed that, Madpilot, but I don't think there's a driver out for my i2c chip.
[09:18] <swuboo> What the Hell though, I'll do it again.
[09:21] <Afief> Hello everybody, i got a series of pictures which i want to string into a movie, any idea which program i should use?
[09:21] <swuboo> Yeah, sensors-detect provides such useful results as "# modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA I2C Device" three times in a row.
[09:21] <Madpilot> swuboo, what generation of NVidia chip?
[09:22] <Typhon> hmm I just set up my ethernet card to PXE net boot/install Ubuntu, but the ethernet card isn't recognized by the installer so I can't download packages.
[09:22] <ryan_naruto> how can i install a driver for my bluetooth usb dongle "KY-BT100 Bluetooth Adapter"
[09:22] <swuboo> nForce 570.
[09:23] <ryan_naruto> how can i check if my bluetooth is working ???
[09:23] <Madpilot> swuboo, nForce 2, 3 or 4?
[09:23] <swuboo> 5.
[09:23] <swuboo> It's an nForce 570 SLI.
[09:23] <WinterWolf> ok i will install glx drivers but it tell me to install linux-image
[09:23] <WinterWolf> should install the image first then install the glx drivers?
[09:23] <swuboo> I think you're exceeding my depth of usefulness, Winterwolf.
[09:24] <Afief> Hello everybody, i got a series of pictures which i want to string into a movie, any idea which program i should use?
[09:25] <nalpha> guys sorry how to set permission to me on my samba server? so i can open the file
[09:25] <swuboo> Madpilot:  I think that's my problem.  lm-sensors doesn't appear to have drivers yet for my chipset.
[09:25] <ryan_naruto> ive bought a cheap usb bluetooth ive tried it on winxp and it automatically detects it. how can i know if ubuntu recognize my bluetooth device
[09:25] <YogSothoth> Hi
[09:25] <WinterWolf> ok, sorry but i a newbie with linux :( can u give me some tip on where to search info, 'm trying the wiki but it wont give alot of help
[09:25] <Madpilot> swuboo, yeah, nForce5 is likely too new. I didn't even know it was out yet ;)
[09:26] <Madpilot> WinterWolf, ATI drivers?
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> ryan_naruto: plug it in.
[09:26] <swuboo> Madpilot:  He's using nvidia.
[09:26] <Afief> Winterwolf: wiki.ubuntu.com and the ubuntu forums mostly
[09:26] <YogSothoth> I use Rhythmbox to listen to my MP3s and I'd like to edit the title, artists, album... doesn't Rhythmbox provide a way to do this? I can open the properties of a MP3 but I can't edit anything
[09:26] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell WinterWolf about nvidia
[09:26] <Madpilot> YogSothoth, EasyTag or Cowbell
[09:26] <swuboo> YogSothoth, do you have write privileges to the files?
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> YogSothoth: use banshee or some other player.
[09:27] <ryan_naruto> @fyrestrtr ive plugged it in it blinking but i cant get multysinc to connect to my cellphone
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> ryan_naruto: can your phone find your computer?
[09:27] <ompaul> WinterWolf, I had the bot send you a message please read the url attached it is a step by step process
[09:29] <_cerberus_> does anyone know why when compiling mplayer I get a message saying "libmpdemux/libmpdemux.a: could not read symbols: File format not recognised"?
[09:30] <YogSothoth> swuboo, yes I have write privilege
[09:30] <hondje> because mplayer is scientifically designed to output as many warnings and errors as gcc can handle....
[09:31] <ompaul> _cerberus_, why are you compiling it?
[09:31] <YogSothoth> Madpilot, fyrestrtr, you mean Rhythmbox can't do that?
[09:31] <Wettendorff> anyone that can help me, getting my ubuntu to sign in to a win2003 domain??
[09:31] <Madpilot> YogSothoth, I've never used RB that much, but I know EasyTag can
[09:31] <ompaul> _cerberus_, apt your friendly advanced package manager
[09:31] <YogSothoth> fyrestrtr, Banshee looks ok. I found Exaile. Did you try it?
[09:32] <ompaul> !mplayer > _cerberus_
[09:32] <ompaul> _cerberus_, please read the message from the bot
[09:32] <juraj> Hello everyone, I need help with hibernation. I described the issue on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251663 but nobody responded...
[09:32] <vxd_> Rhythmbox stop between all tracks when I listen the radio, do you know why ?
[09:33] <Afief> Hello everybody, i got a series of pictures which i want to string into a movie, any idea which program i should use?
[09:33] <juraj> btw, I would like to get standard hibernate working, rather than installing hibernate2...
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> no, but songbird really takes the cake for me, too bad its very experimental at this stage.
[09:33] <damnhil> can anyone give pointers about installing and using distcc?
[09:34] <steppe> >YogSothoth<
[09:35] <_cerberus_> ompaul I can't use apt as the computer I'm using doesn't have an internet connection
[09:35] <YogSothoth> steppe ?
[09:35] <_cerberus_> I'd rather compile from source than download a binary if possible, besides it hels me learn
[09:36] <damnhil> anyone knows distcc?
[09:36] <Typhon> Hello, can anyone point me in the right direction to install Dapper over Network/PXE without internet access?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> Typhon: have you looked at the wiki already?
[09:37] <Typhon> yeah
[09:37] <Typhon> I got as far as loading an installer but it won't recognize my ethernet card
[09:37] <dooglus> what's a good way to turn a series of 1000 images into a single movie file?
[09:37] <hondje> dooglus: mencoder does that fairly easily
[09:37] <Typhon> and it won't let me proceed without a network interface, which is weird, because the card works enough to load the installer over the network
[09:37] <dooglus> hondje: I looked at the mencoder man page, but couldn't see how.  any pointers?
[09:38] <hondje> dooglus: Ummm, I last did it like 2 years ago lol
[09:39] <ompaul> _cerberus_, so ehh why try to install things on it until you get the internet connection working on it?
[09:39] <dooglus> hondje: are you sure it's possible?  the man page says that mencoder converts between (mplayer playable) movie formats
[09:39] <hondje> dooglus: well, it _was_, and it'd be a weird feature to drop
[09:39] <_cerberus_> because it will never have an internet connection, it's just a music box made from antique components
[09:40] <Wettendorff> anyone that can help me, getting my ubuntu to sign in to a win2003 domain??
[09:40] <canine_kouji> Wettendorff: you need to read the main samba howto
[09:41] <canine_kouji> it clearly states how
[09:41] <canine_kouji> also google
[09:42] <juraj> wettendorff: try reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91510
[09:42] <dooglus> hondje: I get an error: "[09:43] <ompaul> _cerberus_, I strongly suggest you view this document: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts it contains a howto compile on ubuntu
[09:43] <cow_2001> i'm on a quest to find an interesting channel on freenode
[09:43] <cow_2001> can someone point me?
[09:44] <juraj> is there a FAQ on getting hibernation to work?
[09:44] <Madpilot> cow_2001, define 'interesting'? ;)
[09:44] <hondje> #math is fun, you can make everyone all fiesty by just asking why .9999.... = 1
[09:44] <enyc> cow_2001: hrrm well that depends what you find interesting ;-)
[09:44] <cow_2001> hondje, ^_^
[09:44] <hondje> It's fuN!
[09:45] <cow_2001> madpilot, enyc, i don't know, i really don't know
[09:46] <davmor2> help please.  I get a boot time error in edgy 64bit that I wish to check is reported unfortunately being dyslexic means it isn't on screen long enough for me to read where are the boot time error messages recorded please?
[09:47] <hondje> davmor2: Look in dmesg?
[09:47] <davmor2> hondje: is that not just for hardware
[09:48] <dooglus> hondje: let x = 0.999;  9x = 10x - x = 9.999 - 0.999 = 9.    9x=9, so x=1
[09:48] <YogSothoth> Anyway now I'm stuck with a package that I can't remove so I can't install EasyTag: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251899
[09:48] <hondje> dooglus: I don't need an explaination :)
[09:48] <hondje> Just saying, it's fun to watch 'em start hopping around
[09:48] <dooglus> hondje: I found a way to make my movie, but it involves converting everything to fuzzy jpeg images first.
[09:49] <dooglus> hondje: mencoder "mf://*.jpg" -o movie.mpg -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4
[09:49] <hondje> check transcode?
[09:50] <dooglus> !info transcode
[09:50] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 14123 kB, installed size 42172 kB
[09:50] <LookTJ> Hi
[09:50] <davmor2> dooglus: what areyou trying to do?
[09:50] <LookTJ> I tried to install jedit
[09:50] <LookTJ> but it had errors
[09:51] <dooglus> davmor2: I have 1000 images.  I want to stick them together to make a movie
[09:51] <CorpseFeeder> apparently I need something called "kernel headers" package installed to make my wifi card work. I searched for "kernel header" in synaptic pack manager and got a bunch of results... i don't know which one to install
[09:51] <dooglus> davmor2: Imagemagick's "convert" promises to do it, but it seems to want to load them all into memory first - they don't fit.
[09:51] <jozzeph> how should i install java and the right plug in for firefox?
[09:51] <davmor2> dooglus: can't you do that in pitivi
[09:51] <dooglus> davmor2: never heard of it.
[09:51] <dooglus> !info pitivi
[09:51] <ubotu> pitivi: non-linear audio/video editor using GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.0-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 572 kB
[09:51] <LookTJ> now the package manager says i need to reinstall but it cant find the package
[09:51] <WinterWolf> i did get some problems after installing new drivers for grafic card
[09:51] <WinterWolf> *@*:~$ glxgears
[09:51] <WinterWolf> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:51] <WinterWolf> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:51] <WinterWolf> *@*:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:51] <WinterWolf> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[09:51] <WinterWolf> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[09:51] <WinterWolf> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[09:51] <WinterWolf> command:
[09:51] <WinterWolf> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[09:52] <WinterWolf> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[09:52] <LookTJ> !pastebin
[09:52] <WinterWolf> from nv to nvidia.
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:52] <WinterWolf> obs
[09:52] <WinterWolf> sorry
[09:52] <jozzeph> sometimes my java works, sometimes it doesnt
[09:52] <highvoltage> that's java for you
[09:52] <VladDrac> it seems asif on dapper, since the recent xorg upgrade, my screensaver/lock doesn't work anymore
[09:53] <jozzeph> whats wrong with java and linux
[09:53] <VladDrac> at least I can't trigger it using the panel button
[09:53] <davmor2> dooglus: not sure if it will work it from stills though,  also try diva another easy editor again not sure on stills but the may be worth a quick read up.
[09:53] <hondje> java and linux? Seem to play along well if you don't mind license issues
[09:53] <CorpseFeeder> which kernel headers package do I install? how do I find out?
[09:53] <VladDrac> .xsession-errors says: "gnome-screensaver-Message: Screensaver is not running!"
[09:53] <LookTJ> jozzeph: try to install sun's java
[09:54] <jozzeph> i dis sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[09:54] <jozzeph> how to sun java?
[09:54] <cow_2001> dooglus, wow.
[09:54] <LookTJ> try config?
[09:54] <jozzeph> config 2 possibilities
[09:54] <jozzeph> i did the default
[09:55] <jozzeph> should i try the other one?
[09:55] <LookTJ> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:55] <WinterWolf> i got some problem getting glxgears working and also nvidia-glx-config ebale working http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22707
[09:55] <LookTJ> try other one
[09:55] <jozzeph> ok ill try
[09:56] <LookTJ> ubotu tell about pastebin
[09:56] <LookTJ> jozzeph hold on
[09:56] <jozzeph> ok
[09:56] <jozzeph> it doesnt work either
[09:56] <CorpseFeeder> what does 3rd mouse button emulation do on two button mouse?.. i.e. what would a 3rd mouse button do if I had one?
[09:57] <highvoltage> CorpseFeeder: if you press both buttons at the same time, it acts like a third button
[09:57] <JoseStefan> CorpseFeeder, depends on program
[09:58] <JoseStefan> CorpseFeeder, on firefox middle button is a shortcur for "open in new tab" and for closing tabs
[09:58] <JoseStefan> shortcut*
[09:58] <LookTJ> jozzeph: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22708
[09:58] <jozzeph> ok tx
[09:58] <LookTJ> follow the instructions
[09:59] <CorpseFeeder> aha.. I see. thanks
[09:59] <JoseStefan> CorpseFeeder, with emulation on, you use the 3rd button by clicking buttons 1+2 at the same time
[09:59] <LookTJ> can someone help with my problem
[09:59] <poningru> CorpseFeeder: are you using a touchpad?
[09:59] <poningru> LookTJ: whats the prob?
[09:59] <CorpseFeeder> now... what about kernel headers package? how do I tell which one I should install?
[10:00] <LookTJ> i tried installing jedit
[10:00] <poningru> CorpseFeeder: just do sudo module-assistant prepare
[10:00] <JoseStefan> CorpseFeeder, try: uname -r
[10:00] <poningru> if it says command not find
[10:00] <hwt> hi, i'm running edgy.
[10:00] <poningru> oh true
[10:00] <hwt> i get an error when trying to upgrade.
[10:00] <JoseStefan> hwt, i suggest #ubuntu+1
[10:00] <LookTJ> ill paste the error while installing
[10:02] <CorpseFeeder> i got "sudo: module-assistant: command not found
[10:02] <CorpseFeeder> "
[10:03] <xerxas> Can I make resolv.conf point to 127.0.0.1, my machine is running a recursive dns server, but connects to the internet using dhcp, the dhcp client modifies /etc/resolv.conf
[10:03] <LookTJ> anyone help with jedit?
[10:03] <LookTJ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22709
[10:04] <CorpseFeeder> am I still connected?
[10:04] <hondje> Yep
[10:04] <mooky> yes you are
[10:05] <LookTJ> so anyone know my problem?
[10:05] <mooky> jedits not my bag
[10:05] <ompaul> LookTJ, the file you downloaded was not for installing - the package list which is needed to install it is missing
[10:05] <bayzider> how do i comple c programs in ubuntu
[10:06] <CorpseFeeder> ok that "sudo module-assistant prepare" didn't work.
[10:06] <CorpseFeeder> what do I try now?
[10:06] <ompaul> bayzider,  I strongly suggest you view this document: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts it contains a howto compile
[10:06] <bayzider> thanks
[10:06] <DJAdmiral> hello people
[10:06] <DRMacIve1> Hm. Anyone know much about the 'entity' package? It sounds interesting, but the website for it is down and I can't seem to find any further information than what's in the man page.
[10:06] <ompaul> bayzider, before you do, do this, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:06] <DRMacIve1> (It's supposed to be an XML based GUI builder)
[10:06] <LookTJ> ompaul: i don't get it
[10:06] <cactus_sediento> hello everybody....would like to check if , as me, you have received yesterday the following updates for sql  and security stuff in ubuntu dapper.....there number versions are a litle suspect.....thanks
[10:06] <DJAdmiral> !info entity
[10:07] <ubotu> entity: XML-based GUI builder for GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-7.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 191 kB, installed size 888 kB
[10:07] <cactus_sediento> Commit Log for Wed Sep  6 01:26:01 2006
[10:07] <cactus_sediento> I seguenti pacchetti sono stati aggiornati:
[10:07] <cactus_sediento> libmysqlclient15off (5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06) to 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2
[10:07] <cactus_sediento> libssl0.9.8 (0.9.8a-7build1) to 0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.1
[10:07] <cactus_sediento> mysql-common (5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06) to 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2
[10:07] <cactus_sediento> openssl (0.9.8a-7build1) to 0.9.8a-7ubuntu0.1
[10:07] <LookTJ> !paste
[10:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:07] <DJAdmiral> cactus_sediento: we got them
[10:07] <LookTJ> ompaul: do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[10:07] <cactus_sediento> thanks
[10:07] <ompaul> LookTJ, what it means is this, that package you used wget to download is broken
[10:08] <DJAdmiral> cactus_sediento: np. Just don't flood the channel again :P
[10:08] <LookTJ> oh
[10:08] <ompaul> LookTJ, use gedit or some such
[10:08] <cactus_sediento> sory, was not the intention
[10:08] <LookTJ> ompaul: anyway of removing it?
[10:08] <DJAdmiral> cactus_sediento: No problem, now you know there's a pastebin lol
[10:09] <ompaul> LookTJ, it did not install
[10:09] <LookTJ> oh
[10:10] <LookTJ> then how do i get rid of the icon on my panel saying i need to reinstall jedit?
[10:10] <DJAdmiral> !info jedit
[10:10] <ubotu> Package jedit does not exist in any distro I know
[10:11] <CorpseFeeder> I am still no further ahead with getting "kernel headers" package installed. Any more suggestions?
[10:11] <DJAdmiral> hrmm.
[10:11] <LookTJ> hmm im gonna reinstall ubuntu then cause jedit messed it up
[10:12] <jozzeph> looktj should i remove my old java first?
[10:12] <LookTJ> nah
[10:12] <jozzeph> ok
[10:12] <LookTJ> it don't matter
[10:13] <swuboo> Where is dmesg?
[10:13] <DJAdmiral> CorpseFeeder: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 doesn't help?
[10:13] <juraj> is it possible to get hibernation working in ubuntu at all?
[10:13] <jozzeph> ok doing it right now
[10:13] <LookTJ> anyways im off to reinstall my system
[10:13] <DJAdmiral> juraj: hibernation works on my computer
[10:13] <jozzeph> installing the new one
[10:13] <DJAdmiral> juraj: maybe your processor doesn't support hibernation.
[10:13] <swuboo> Found it.
[10:13] <juraj> I'm stuck with "HAL won't hibernate". I've been googling for over 5 days and nothing
[10:14] <juraj> It's Athlon 2500+
[10:14] <DJAdmiral> juraj: then I think your processor doesn't support hibernation/
[10:14] <CorpseFeeder> when I searched on synaptic for kernel headers, I got a bunch of different ones show up in the results and I don't know which to install...
[10:14] <AlexC> Hey
[10:14] <AlexC> does anyone here use gPHPEdit?
[10:14] <juraj> so I need to go with hibernate2?
[10:14] <DJAdmiral> CorpseFeeder: try this command first: uname -r
[10:15] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: I use gPHPEdit
[10:15] <DJAdmiral> CorpseFeeder: then you'll get your kernel header version.
[10:15] <DJAdmiral> CorpseFeeder: then install linux headers as per your kernel version.
[10:15] <jozzeph> hans@geen-9af81a6f6b:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin
[10:15] <jozzeph> Error: The file "jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin" does not exist.
[10:15] <AlexC> DJAdmiral, do your fonts display correctly in it? For example, my ( look like , and when I change the font size it's only chainging the font-spacing
[10:15] <CorpseFeeder> I see.. it says "2.6.15-26-686"
[10:15] <juraj> DJAdmiral: so I need to get hibernate2?
[10:16] <DJAdmiral> juraj: I don't know cause my hibernate works just find
[10:16] <DJAdmiral> juraj: fine*
[10:16] <ryan_naruto> i type sudo hciconfig hci0 revision and at the bottom it says unsupported manufacturer... does that mean that i cant use my bluetooth device to connect with my phone..
[10:16] <jozzeph> hans@geen-9af81a6f6b:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin
[10:16] <jozzeph> Error: The file "jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin" does not exist.
[10:16] <DJAdmiral> CorpseFeeder: then get those kernel versions
[10:16] <DJAdmiral> !repeat
[10:16] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:16] <JoseStefan> CorpseFeeder: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:17] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: let me check
[10:17] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: My fonts are just fine.
[10:17] <Daniel_GBG> can anyone help me with vpn tunnel?
[10:17] <AlexC> DJAdmiral, Hum, what font are you using?
[10:17] <CorpseFeeder> so sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 wil; do the trick?
[10:17] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: system default font
[10:18] <DJAdmiral> CorpseFeeder: yep
[10:18] <DJAdmiral> hey fyrestrtr!
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> hey
[10:18] <AlexC> what would that be, DJAdmiral  =)
[10:18] <Daniel_GBG> I need help to setup a vpn tunnel
[10:18] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: checking.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Daniel_GBG: are you using openvpn? Its quite easy to set up :)
[10:19] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: Sans
[10:19] <Daniel_GBG> well I'm a linux newbee so I don't know what I need..
[10:19] <Daniel_GBG> is it just to download openvpn?
[10:20] <yahya> Hi, I did apt-get install swish-e, which proceeded to configure gforge-db-postgresql and gave an error because it expects postgres to be running on port 5432.  But I have it on 5433. How can I tell apt-get to use the new port?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> what kind of setup do you want? Do you want to setup a server or a client?
[10:20] <nalpha> guys silly questino how to run sh?
[10:20] <Daniel_GBG> I would like to seput a vpn client
[10:20] <AlexC> DJAdmiral, Ahhh it was because I set my font size to 4 .... but the letters wont change size only the symbols hence why they were lookign funny!
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> nalpha: type 'sh'
[10:20] <DJAdmiral> nalpha: sh scriptname
[10:20] <nalpha> okey thanx
[10:20] <DJAdmiral> AlexC: lol
[10:21] <JoseStefan> what's the cause for "bad header lines" errors on apt?
[10:21] <Z310N> how do i make opera default browser i dont want to use firefox?
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> Daniel_GBG: install kvpnc, that will help you.
[10:22] <ompaul> Daniel_GBG, you need to look at the openvpn website but it is just a matter of adding universe to your repos and install it via synaptic and then doing the key creation
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Daniel_GBG: an of course, openvpn.
[10:22] <ompaul> !repos > Daniel_GBG
[10:22] <jozzeph> hans@geen-9af81a6f6b:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin
[10:22] <jozzeph> Error: The file "jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin" does not exist.
[10:22] <jozzeph> why?
[10:22] <opexoc> Does anybody tell why when I am using synaptic and go to Settings->Respositories and I go to Add and I check for example for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS the Universe Repos then when I will came back there this repos are check out( They are not checked )?
[10:22] <swuboo> Z310N: Preferred applications, under System, Preferences
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> jozzeph: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[10:22] <jozzeph> ok
[10:23] <Daniel_GBG> what?
[10:23] <jozzeph> and then?
[10:23] <Daniel_GBG> english please..
[10:23] <ompaul> Daniel_GBG, read the message from the bot
[10:23] <Z310N> thanks swuboo:D
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> jozzeph: then you are done :)
[10:23] <swuboo> Sure.
[10:23] <jozzeph> haha nice :)
[10:23] <jozzeph> gonna try
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> jozzeph: oh, wait, you might want to also run sudo update-alternatives --config java (and choose the number for the entry that has 'sun' in its name)
[10:24] <ompaul> Daniel_GBG, a vpn is not a totally trivial thing, you _will_ need to look at the openvpn website, to install it is just a matter of adding universe to your repos and install it via synaptic package manager
[10:24] <Daniel_GBG> kvpnc what is that?
[10:24] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: he left.
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> Daniel_GBG: its a gui way of configure a vpn client.
[10:24] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, hmm not seen this
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> DJAdmiral: thanks, I have some rigid filters on irssi :)
[10:25] <DJAdmiral> fyrestrtr: lol
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> ompaul: kde app, quite nice actually.
[10:26] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. now I am getting lost of "warning: DBG is not defined" errors
[10:26] <CorpseFeeder> lost=lots
[10:26] <DJAdmiral> You can't cheat with a calculator, sudoku has absolutely nothing to do with maths. It's all logic
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, maybe that's why I can never finish it.
[10:27] <DJAdmiral> You can replace the numbers 1 through 9 with different pictures of a hamster and still solve it :P
[10:27] <swuboo> I like to solve all my hamster related problems with a calculator, too.
[10:28] <hondje> hammers work better
[10:28] <swuboo> "Swuboo, Daisy's chewing through a wire."  "Uhhh.... E."
[10:28] <JoseStefan> What's the cause for "bad header line" errors on apt?
[10:28] <DJAdmiral> swuboo: :P
[10:28] <Madpilot> Folks, #ubuntu-offtopic is somewhere over there [10:29] <DJAdmiral> Madpilot: sorry, we were just having a little fun while we're waiting for people to ask questions
[10:29] <DJAdmiral> it's getting a little boring here.
[10:29] <Daniel_GBG> welll i do not understand how to install openvpn?
[10:29] <swuboo> JoseStefan did just ask a question, I suppose, but I have no idea how to answer it.
[10:29] <DJAdmiral> same.
[10:29] <JoseStefan> :(
[10:29] <ompaul> !universe > Daniel_GBG
[10:30] <opexoc> Does anybody tell why when I am using synaptic and go to Settings->Respositories and I go to Add and I check for example for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS the Universe Repos then when I will came back there this repos are check out( They are not checked )?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> Daniel_GBG: sudo apt-get install openvpn kvpnc -- then run kvpnc from gnome and set it up with your login details for your vpn server.
[10:30] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: to the best of my knowledge it only happens when some public key is corrupt maybe. it's really nothing to worry about though
[10:30] <Daniel_GBG> vad men du mean by universe?
[10:30] <ompaul> fyrestrtr, I doubt if he has universe set up
[10:30] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, how is that fixed?
[10:31] <ompaul> Daniel_GBG, please look for a message from Ubotu
[10:31] <nrdb> Hi, which package has the man files for the c function like strlen etc.
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: You don't need to fix it. It's nothing to worry about
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: It'll be fixed by the developers within a few days
[10:31] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: There's no worry.
[10:32] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, it's not doing the upgrade and it's on a warty box, going from warty -> warty (updated)
[10:32] <DJAdmiral> zomg
[10:32] <ompaul> JoseStefan, that is unsupported software
[10:32] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: No wonder
[10:32] <Daniel_GBG> could not find the pacage openvpn..
[10:32] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: the keys won't be fixed if it's unsupported!
[10:32] <ompaul> JoseStefan, download dapper and install it
[10:32] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: just get dapper.
[10:32] <ompaul> Daniel_GBG, join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[10:32] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, ompaul, i'm helping someone upgrde, but wanted to do a regular upgrade 1st
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> !info libstdc++6-doc
[10:33] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: That won't work.
[10:33] <ubotu> Package libstdc6-doc does not exist in any distro I know
[10:33] <Madpilot> JoseStefan, warty has no more updates, AFAIK
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> !info libstdc++6-doc dapper
[10:33] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, ompaul, Madpilot: he had warty with "release day" packages
[10:33] <ubotu> Package libstdc6-doc does not exist in dapper
[10:33] <apokryphos> Warty stopped getting security updates some time ago
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> !info libstdc-doc dapper
[10:33] <ubotu> Package libstdc-doc does not exist in dapper
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, strange.
[10:34] <Madpilot> support for Warty ended 18 months after it came out - April 2006
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> nrdb: its something like libstdc-doc, search for it (apt-cache search)
[10:34] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: What you have to do is just download and burn dapper, format the hard disk, and install.
[10:34] <JoseStefan> you think its better to just change repos to hoary and the do the dist-ugprade? i wanted to get his hoary udpated 1st
[10:35] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, the person does not have a cd drive, only net access
[10:35] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: ouch. that's a bummer.
[10:35] <JoseStefan> i wanted to do the following: warty -> warty (updated) -> hoary, etc
[10:35] <Madpilot> JoseStefan, dist-upgrade is going to be the only way to go, then
[10:36] <swuboo> JoseStefan:  Is there really much point in that?  If you can't do a format and reinstall, why not just go directly to dapper?
[10:36] <JoseStefan> swuboo, the person has no cd drive, only net access
[10:36] <swuboo> Right, I know.
[10:36] <DJAdmiral> !upgrade
[10:36] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:37] <JoseStefan> so this "bad header lines" is a server error?
[10:37] <DJAdmiral> There you go.
[10:37] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: It's not really a server error
[10:37] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: not in this case at least
[10:37] <JoseStefan> is it unfixable?
[10:37] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: it's not something that you can fix
[10:37] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: it's only fixable by the developers
[10:37] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: and they won't fix that since warty is outdated
[10:38] <swuboo> Shouldn't he be able to switch his Synaptic repositories to Dapper and then just update everything?
[10:38] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, will changing the repos to hoary at this time fix it?
[10:38] <swuboo> Or hoary, I guess.
[10:38] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, followed by update/dist-upgrade
[10:38] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: i recommend reading the above upgrading to breezy then dapper
[10:38] <DJAdmiral> !upgrade
[10:38] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:38] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, i have this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:38] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: thse links that ubotu just said
[10:38] <JoseStefan> ;)
[10:38] <JoseStefan> it's a long route
[10:39] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: Upgrade to breezy, then dapper.
[10:39] <JoseStefan> it's like ubuntu history, a timeline off sorts
[10:39] <Madpilot> JoseStefan, yeah, you're going to have to update this prehistoric Ubuntu box one version at a time... long & messy...
[10:40] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, you cant upgrade warty to breezy, actually the person tried that at 1st and almost broke his pkgs
[10:40] <nrdb> fyrestrtr: I am downloading the libstdc++6-4.0-doc package, that looks like it. :(
[10:40] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: then he must have done something wrong.
[10:40] <Madpilot> Warty -> Hoary -> Breezy -> Dapper... that'll keep you busy for a week or so...
[10:40] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral: what Madpilot said
[10:40] <Madpilot> DJAdmiral, you can't skip versions
[10:40] <DJAdmiral> wait
[10:41] <another> how do i hide a window in gnome?
[10:41] <JoseStefan> he is on 4.10
[10:41] <DJAdmiral> never mind i misread something
[10:41] <DJAdmiral> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HoaryUpgradeNotes <--- this should help you
[10:41] <JoseStefan> i got those links DJAdmiral, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:41] <JoseStefan> my concern is the "bad header line"
[10:41] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: that should be of no concern
[10:42] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, it makes apt stop
[10:42] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: you don't need to update your version and then upgrade first.
[10:42] <hondje> They're not really bad headers, they just don't know better. I would just leave them be
[10:42] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, i only wanted to do that, becuase he had both breezy and warty repos at the same time
[10:42] <DJAdmiral> josestefan: just upgrade to hoary, then breezy, then dapper
[10:42] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, luckily nothing broke
[10:43] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: luckily. just go ahead and just upgrade. don't worry about the broken headers
[10:43] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral, to make sure, since he had his warty un-updated, i wanted to update it first to with warty-updates
[10:43] <iLikeSpoons> so, I put in an old (but not legacy) nvidia card in my machine last night, but couldn't get the nvidia drivers to work. Now, it works mostly fine with the nv drivers, but, if I, for example, play a movie in mplayer, in fulscreen, after it finishes and exits the fullscreen, my entire screen is jumbled and unusable. I have to do ctrl+alt+f1 and then alt+f7 to clear it back to norma. any ideas?
[10:43] <JoseStefan> DJAdmiral will do
[10:43] <DJAdmiral> JoseStefan: they're meant to be broken since warty is unsupported.
[10:46] <aquasoftpacita_> how do i set a startup program??
[10:47] <hondje> aquasoftpacita_: system -> preferences -> sessions
[10:47] <Thunderpants> system>prefs>session>start-up aquasoftpacita_
[10:47] <hondje> then naturally the 'startup programs' tab
[10:49] <DJAdmiral> brb.
[10:56] <GG_Allin> I can't get ubuntu to associate with my access point.  it was working earlier, but now I just get "Removed BSSID 00:00:00:00:00:00 from blacklist (clear)"   and stuff like "No keys have been configured - skip key clearing"     even though I set a key and put it into wpa_supplicant.conf
[10:58] <thom__> is this the right place to ask for help regarding edgy?
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> thom__: no, that would be #ubuntu+1
[11:00] <thom__> fyrestrtr: thanks bud
[11:00] <Mau> hi! does anyone uses prboom for classic doom?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> !away > cypher1
[11:01] <ompaul> cypher1, please read the message from the bot Ubotu - do not use the noisey away thanks
[11:01] <Mau> hi! does anyone uses prboom for classic doom? I compiled it here, but the game crashes and lock the X ...
[11:02] <DJAdmiral> Mau: not me, sorry :\
[11:03] <Mau> DJAdmiral, do you have any experience in that? like sdl...do you know any configuration for that?
[11:03] <JoseStefan> Mau, try doomsdayhq.com
[11:03] <Mau> JoseStefan, i dont have open GL!
[11:03] <Mau> acceleration card
[11:04] <JoseStefan> Mau: ok
[11:04] <dibblego> I put a D-Link wireless NIC in my machine and it FUBARred "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" -- 2.6.15-23 kernel -- upgrading it now to see if that helps, but until then, can anyone offer any tips?
[11:05] <Mau> prboom works very bad here...i need to reboot the system avery time
[11:05] <LookTJ> back
[11:07] <crashd> is there anyway to get audacity working under ubuntu?
[11:07] <DJAdmiral> crashd: audacity is working here.
[11:08] <crashd> hmm
[11:08] <DJAdmiral> crashd: what's your specific problem?
[11:08] <crashd> i dont mean audacity at all
[11:08] <dibblego> is there any way to get a D-Link wireless NIC working under ubuntu-server?
[11:08] <crashd> sorry, hehe, it's still early
[11:10] <DJAdmiral> I'm off to write an article for OSIX
[11:10] <DJAdmiral> I will see you folks later
[11:10] <DJAdmiral> ciao
[11:10] <crashd> ciao
[11:12] <crashd> i meant audaciou
[11:12] <crashd> s
[11:12] <crashd> it doesnt seem to want to build for me :\
[11:12] <crashd> CarinArr:
[11:12] <crashd> jpogjporjpor, why are you in more than one channel!
[11:12] <ziro01> dunno
[11:12] <LookTJ> dibblego: you portfoward the ports
[11:14] <Tjoels> is it possible to use 32 bit color depht in Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:15] <Tjoels> ...
[11:16] <Jobberwacky> crashd, you need the proper develop packages installed
[11:16] <yoshiznit123> are all of you who have the problem using upstart?
[11:16] <crashd> such as what Jobberwacky ?
[11:16] <yoshiznit123> oops wrong channel sorry
[11:16] <crashd> i've got all the usual stuff to build apps installed
[11:16] <Tjoels> is it possible to use 32 bit color depht in Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:17] <mjr> yes
[11:17] <mjr> probably is the default, actually
[11:17] <JoseStefan> mine uses 24 bit
[11:17] <Tjoels> nah, my default is 24
[11:18] <Tjoels> so, is it safe to edit it?
[11:18] <zack__> what are the best drivers i can use for the best opengl performance with my card, ati radeon 7500
[11:18] <Healot> 32 is actually 24bit :)
[11:18] <dibblego> LookTJ, the device causes the kernel to go into a spin
[11:18] <Jobberwacky> crashd, look at the configure errors- they usually tell you
[11:18] <Tjoels> huh?
[11:18] <dibblego> forwarding ports has little to do with anything
[11:18] <Tjoels> Healot: what u mean?
[11:18] <JoseStefan> 32 is 24 with 8bits for alpha channel
[11:18] <Tjoels> omg
[11:18] <highvoltage> aka waste of memory :)
[11:18] <Healot> if your OS support alpha channel like Windows XP or MacOS X
[11:19] <Tjoels> so what is best, 32 or 24? xD
[11:19] <zack__> what are the best drivers i can use for the best opengl performance with my card, ati radeon 7500
[11:19] <Healot> there will be a little differences
[11:19] <JoseStefan> they are the same 'colors'
[11:19] <Tjoels> but what performes best in ubuntu?
[11:19] <JoseStefan> the RGB part will be 8 bit each
[11:19] <Healot> Tjoels: either , as long as your card supports 24 bit color :)
[11:20] <Tjoels> Healot: so theres absolutely no reason for changing it?
[11:20] <Healot> nope
[11:21] <Tjoels> oh, i see.
[11:21] <Healot> at least no in ubuntu
[11:21] <Tjoels> thx
[11:21] <Healot> but you always can change it if you want
[11:21] <Tjoels> ok.
[11:21] <chibiace> i might get xgl going for the fun of it
[11:21] <Jobberwacky> only for compatibility in whine.
[11:22] <mjr> I have the impression that the drivers actually choose nowadays whether to use 24 or 32 bits per pixel in memory layout, though I'm not sure of it
[11:22] <Jobberwacky> some win progs reject 24bit
[11:22] <Tjoels> ah, so i mught actually just change it now i'm changing the res?
[11:22] <Tjoels> :D
[11:23] <frogzoo> zomg - 50megs of updates
[11:23] <chibiace> only?
[11:24] <Jobberwacky> it might fail x
[11:24] <chibiace> compiling firefox is less fun then 50mb of updates
[11:24] <chibiace> doubt it
[11:24] <JoseStefan> Tjoels, will you know how to change it back without gui?
[11:25] <Tjoels> JoseStefan: Yeah, i've made a backup, and i tryed being without gui before, when i installed "nvidia" driver
[11:25] <zack__> how do i backup my xorg.conf file?
[11:25] <dibblego> running my D-Link NIC fails when trying to load the hardware drivers with "bug: soft lockup detected on CPU#0" -- is there anything that be done to resolve it?
[11:25] <Tjoels> copy it to another location
[11:26] <dibblego> zack__, I use subversion
[11:26] <zack__> dibblego isnt there a command i can use in terminal?
[11:26] <Healot> you can just simply copy it with another filename >> zack__
[11:26] <Knightlust> is there a bug in importing openpgp keys? the page seems to be rejecting my  gpg fingerprint
[11:26] <JoseStefan> zack__: "cp"
[11:27] <Gumby> does anyone know the admin username/password for cups web interface?
[11:27] <opexoc> Could anyone tell me how can I check what packages are installed by source ( tar.gz ) on my system?
[11:27] <chibiace> Gumby: on my gentoo its my root username and password
[11:27] <opexoc> Gumby: it is my problem too...
[11:27] <Lynoure> Gumpy: as root is unabled, it does not take any
[11:27] <Gumby> chibiace: but ubuntu uses sudo :)
[11:28] <barata> how can I get mplayer?
[11:28] <dinamizador> hola
[11:28] <chibiace> Gumby: set a root password and try that?
[11:28] <Gumby> Lynoure: you have to enter a root passwd for the cups admin
[11:28] <Lynoure> Gumby: but you can configure cups to accept other users
[11:28] <dibblego> zack__, cp
[11:28] <dinamizador> hola, hola
[11:28] <Lynoure> Gumby: no...
[11:29] <chibiace> cant it be configured without the webadmin
[11:29] <opexoc> chibiace: I have root password set, and I can't get validation from cups.
[11:29] <Lynoure> Gumby: there is no root password, so it does not accept anything there
[11:29] <Gumby> Lynoure: so just admin and a blank pass?
[11:29] <Lynoure> chibiace: yes it can
[11:30] <Gumby> admin + no pass = popup repops up
[11:30] <Lynoure> Gumby: nothing will work unless you change the config
[11:30] <chibiace> i might have a go at networking my printer tomorrow.
[11:30] <agt> barata, sudo apt-get install mplayer - take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792 too
[11:31] <Lynoure> chibiace: you can edit the cups configuration files, under /etc/cups, I think
[11:31] <Gumby> Lynoure: # Administrator user group...
[11:31] <Gumby> SystemGroup lpadmin
[11:31] <Gumby> and my user IS in lpadmin group
[11:31] <Gumby> yet, I haveno cups administration capabilities it seems
[11:32] <fog_proxy> Hi all. Is there any good tool for capture screen?
[11:32] <dibblego> Installing a D-Link DWL-G510 PCI wireless network card into my system causes an error during the boot sequence - "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" immediately after "Loading hardware drivers". This problem is consistently reproducible and consistently goes away if I modify /etc/network/interfaces to not use this device. The kernel was 2.6.15-23 and I hoped an upgrade to 2.6.15-26 would help but it didn't. Any pointers?
[11:32] <Gumby> fog_proxy: the gimp worls well
[11:32] <fog_proxy> It will be better that the tool can edit the picture, add some comments
[11:32] <Gumby> works
[11:32] <dibblego> fog_proxy, there is the Print Screen button on the keyboard
[11:32] <crashd> is there anyway to let apt/synaptic search for packages that aren't strictly for my arch?
[11:32] <barata> agt: thanks!
[11:32] <crashd> ie: im on amd64, but can use x86 packages just fine
[11:33] <fog_proxy> Gumby: gimp is too big, any small soft?
[11:33] <agt> barata,  :D
[11:33] <Lynoure> Gumby: weird, I think I added adm group there and that worked for me..
[11:33] <fog_proxy> dibblego: Yes, but it can't capture just a rect
[11:33] <zack__> can somone explain something from a how to to me if i give you the link?
[11:33] <fog_proxy> dibblego: I mean a certian area
[11:34] <fog_proxy> I think there should be a smaller one, and enough to use
[11:34] <frogzoo> Gumby: you trying to admin cups through the web page?
[11:34] <Gumby> frogzoo: yes I am
[11:34] <JoseStefan> crashd, no, you have to install the packages manually
[11:34] <muhammad> is there any flash player that i can access with it .swf extensions ?
[11:34] <Thunderpants> Alt+Print Screen takes a screenshot of the window to which the mouse points.
[11:35] <crashd> well that's a pain in the ass
[11:35] <miteshag> to josestefan: it took a l;ong time in loading new kernel
[11:35] <barata> hei, I need to install vmware & cannot get the kernel source for 2.6.15-26-386
[11:35] <hadi> hi
[11:35] <frogzoo> Gumby: add cupsys to 'shadow' group & you're done
[11:35] <crashd> argh
[11:35] <zack__> can somone explain something from a how to to me if i give you the link?
[11:35] <miteshag> there ws an error also
[11:35] <JoseStefan> miteshag, join me at #miteshag
[11:35] <barata> hei, I need to install vmware & cannot get the kernel source for 2.6.15-26-386 --> what is the package name in synaptic?
[11:35] <Tjoels> How do i then change the screen refresh rate?
[11:36] <Tjoels> My current refresh rate is 60, and i want it to be 75
[11:36] <frogzoo> !fixres > Tjoels
[11:36] <Tjoels> in terminal?
[11:36] <hadi> I have some programs on laptop and I want to package them and install on my another linux box. how?
[11:36] <Gumby> frogzoo: that rings a bell.  I remember that from my gf's box
[11:36] <zack__> is this a command or something? "opengl-update xorg-x11 "
[11:36] <discord_> can anybody help me find a package, I read under the kernel I wanted to install to instead install the linux-686 meta-package, I dunno what it's talking about
[11:36] <onkarshinde> barata: did you try installing linux-headers package?
[11:37] <onkarshinde> discord_: What are you trying to install?
[11:37] <someone> Hi! This mourning I have asked about the problem: "PCI: cannot allocate resource region 7". Can someone tell me what is it about and, if possible, how to fix it?
[11:37] <frogzoo> discord_: 'sudo apt-get install linux-686'
[11:37] <crashd> harum, ive got a deb file for audacious, but it wont run
[11:37] <discord_> i was trying to install kernel-image-686-2.6.17
[11:37] <crashd> this is frustrating ;\
[11:38] <Jobberwacky> barata, you're better off with a kernel that matches your cpu
 barata: did you try installing linux-headers package? --> yes, I need the specific name used by ubuntu
[11:38] <frogzoo> discord_: edgy or dapper?
[11:38] <discord_> edgy
[11:38] <barata> Jobberwacky> barata, you're better off with a kernel that matches your cpu --> it is 2.6.15-26-386
[11:38] <discord_> frogzoo : edgy
[11:38] <zack__> how do you " emerge 'opengl-update' "
[11:38] <barata> damned, I did it 6 months ago, now I forget the name :(
[11:39] <onkarshinde> barata: linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[11:39] <frogzoo> discord_: well can't speak for edgy, obviously linux-686 just installs whatever's latest
 barata: linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 --> thanks!
[11:39] <barata> let me try
[11:39] <zack__> how do you " emerge 'opengl-update' "
[11:39] <CorpseFeeder> i am having problems with "make" command while trying to get wifi card to work... way too much errors to paste here, so I have pasted them all into a post on the forums here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251802
[11:39] <zack__> ?
[11:39] <onkarshinde> zack__: what is emerge?
[11:39] <frogzoo> zack__: you don't - emerge is a gentoo tool
[11:39] <discord_> yeah I'll try it too bad rescue mode dont support multiple terminal's... need to figure out screen sometime
[11:39] <Jobberwacky> discord_, linux-686
[11:39] <discord_> thanks guys
[11:40] <zack__> frog ok what would i use for ubuntu then?
[11:40] <Jobberwacky> 386 is for old pentium 1
[11:40] <Healot> 386 is 386
[11:40] <frogzoo> zack__: probly you want synaptic, or 'sudo apt-get install pkgname'
[11:40] <onkarshinde> zack__: First tell us what exactly you are trying to do
[11:40] <Healot> pentium is 586 :-
[11:40] <Healot> damn numbers
 barata: linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 --> it works
[11:41] <barata> I'm now downloading it
[11:41] <onkarshinde> CorpseFeeder: you need kernel headers
[11:41] <zack__> onk im trying to edit my xorg.conf file on my laptop, it has a ati card and i get horrible performance with opengl. so i am trying to fix that
[11:41] <someone> This morning I have asked about the problem: "PCI: cannot allocate resource region 7". Can someone tell me what is it about and, if possible, how to fix it?
[11:41] <onkarshinde> CorpseFeeder: Wait
[11:41] <zack__> onk, im at a gentoo how to but it seems about the same except for that one thing it says to do, emerge
[11:41] <CorpseFeeder> i thought I alread got kernel headers?
[11:41] <muhammad> is there any flash player that i can access with it .swf extensions ?
[11:41] <CorpseFeeder> ok. I wil wait
[11:42] <onkarshinde> CorpseFeeder: What drivers are you trying to install?
[11:42] <zack__> onk this is the website i am at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2137276.html#2137276
[11:42] <kaolti> hi
[11:42] <CorpseFeeder> RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0
[11:42] <kaolti> i have some questions
[11:42] <Healot> ask
[11:42] <CorpseFeeder> for a dlink DWL-G510 card
[11:42] <kaolti> i dled the ubuntu image
[11:42] <onkarshinde> CorpseFeeder: Sorry no idea about that
[11:43] <kaolti> and i want to check the md5sums
[11:43] <kaolti> to know if its good
[11:43] <kaolti> how do i check it?
[11:43] <CorpseFeeder> any ideas as to what all those errors I am getting are caused by or what they mean?
[11:43] <onkarshinde> kaolti: Which OS are you on currently
[11:44] <kaolti> im on win
[11:44] <kaolti> :|
[11:44] <zack__> what would be the equivalant of he commangd emerge from gentoo to ubuntu?
[11:44] <barata> anybody knows what this means: Cannot open the disk '/mnt/wine/virtual.windows/winxp-pro-0.vmdk' or one of the snapshot disks it depends on.
[11:44] <barata> Reason: Insufficient permission to access file.
[11:44] <onkarshinde> kaolti: http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[11:44] <barata> what 'permission' do I need?
[11:44] <kaolti> thanks
[11:45] <kaolti> and...
[11:45] <kaolti> if its good
[11:45] <kaolti> i burn it normally like an iso image
[11:45] <kaolti> ?
[11:45] <onkarshinde> kaolti: Yes
[11:45] <kaolti> or do i have to set bootable options in the cd writing prog?
[11:46] <Jobberwacky> just burn
[11:46] <onkarshinde> kaolti: There is no such thing like that
[11:46] <Healot> if the image is bootable, you dont have to set any boot flag
[11:46] <kaolti> ok thanks
[11:46] <CorpseFeeder> i am stuck in a rut of "make all" hell it seems.
[11:46] <kaolti> i have such options in nero
[11:46] <kaolti> thats why im asking
[11:46] <CorpseFeeder> with no hope of escape...
[11:47] <kaolti> and also i heard that i have to burn at 8x
[11:47] <kaolti> i burned 2 live cd images at 24x and none of them are good.i cant boot from them
[11:47] <Jobberwacky> 16x works fine for me
[11:47] <onkarshinde> kaolti: What error do you get while booting from CD?
[11:48] <kaolti> at the 1cd i dont get any error it just skips booting from the cd
[11:48] <CorpseFeeder> could it be that the instructions I am following at http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rt61 are simply wrong? Or is it just me?
[11:48] <Healot> google for md5sum.exe >> kaolti
[11:48] <kaolti> at the 2nd i get "loading stage 1.5" and it stays like that.(gentoo)
[11:48] <onkarshinde> kaolti: Have you set first boot device as CD in bios options?
[11:48] <kaolti> yes sure
[11:49] <onkarshinde> kaolti: Please avoid nero if possible. It is worst CD writing program ever.
[11:49] <kaolti> have any suggestions for win?
[11:49] <Jobberwacky> it works though
[11:49] <Jobberwacky> roxio
[11:49] <kaolti> healot running the program now
[11:49] <kaolti> jobberwacky ok thanks
[11:50] <Jobberwacky> not free though
[11:51] <onkarshinde> kaolti: dvd-decryptor
[11:51] <kaolti> i'll look it up
[11:52] <kaolti> the md5 is good
[11:52] <adaran> i've got the following line in my syslog: md: kicking non-fresh sda2 from array!  -- does that indicate a hardware failure on one of my raid disks?
[11:52] <cope> how can i scan a directory and sub dir using grep for a keyword, ls -r | grep "asdf" doesn't work
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> cope: grep -R "foo" .
[11:53] <kaolti> i'll burn it, see if it works, then format c: /q :))
[11:53] <onkarshinde> kaolti: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_decrypter.cfm
[11:53] <bezibaerchen> is there any way to play itunes bought music in ubuntu?
[11:53] <san|one> I installed my printer on ubuntu6.06 and it works great! But if I want to use it in the gimp it's not listed.. is there any howto / tutorial / plugin I missed?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> bezibaerchen: find out at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:53] <nowgone> bezibaerchen: what ver ubuntu u have?
[11:53] <cope> thanks fyre
[11:54] <kaolti> onkarshinde thanks
[11:54] <bezibaerchen> nowgone: dapper
[11:54] <onkarshinde> bezibaerchen: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:54] <nowgone> yes there u find info...
[11:54] <nowgone> ^^
[11:55] <InnerFIRE> can someone help me with gtkpod
[11:55] <InnerFIRE> its being really weird
[11:55] <InnerFIRE> and kubuntu acts differently with it than gnome
[11:55] <onkarshinde> InnerFIRE: What help?
[11:55] <InnerFIRE> it wont mount properly..
[11:55] <cope> fyrestrtr, what about if i'm looking for contents in a file?
[11:56] <InnerFIRE> sometimes sdc1
[11:56] <InnerFIRE> sometimes sda1
[11:56] <AbortD> whats a good html editor in ubuntu?
[11:56] <InnerFIRE> when i used gnome.. i install gtkpod and it was just fine.. everytime i plugged it in..
[11:56] <InnerFIRE> with kubuntu it doesnt work
[11:56] <nowgone> u can run dreamwawer
[11:57] <nowgone> i read that
[11:57] <cope> AbortD, nvu is good its like dreamweaver... but jedit is good if you just want text editor with all the bells and whistles
[11:57] <onkarshinde> InnerFIRE: I don't know. I never used kubuntu. gtkpod works fine for me in Uunutu
[11:57] <AbortD> cope: what is nvu?
[11:57] <AbortD> !nvu
[11:57] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[11:57] <nowgone> :)
[11:57] <AbortD> where do i get it?
[11:57] <cope> AbortD, sudo apt-get install nvu
[11:57] <onkarshinde> AbortD: In repositories
[11:58] <cope> AbortD, its like dreamweaver...
[11:58] <AbortD> k i am getting the hang of this
[11:58] <cope> AbortD, google search "ubuntu guide" its a wealth of information
[11:58] <AbortD> k
[11:59] <onkarshinde> cope: Don't recommend ubuntu guide
[11:59] <linuxd00d> hey guys
[11:59] <nalpha> guys i;m installing avg antivirus but why if i running my avg that showing avg antivirus for linux is not registred, please register?? how to register?
[11:59] <nowgone> hey
[11:59] <cope> onkarshinde, why's that?
[11:59] <nowgone> nalpha: crack
[11:59] <nowgone> find
[12:00] <linuxd00d> nalpha: why do you want an anti virus, theres practically no virus for linux?
[12:00] <nowgone> or serial
[12:00] <JoseStefan> !virus
[12:00] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:00] <onkarshinde> cope: It is unofficial resource. There are lots of more official resources like wiki, mailing list, forums
[12:00] <Jobberwacky> is xfburn buggy?
[12:00] <cope> onkarshinde, sorry champ.
[12:00] <san|one> is there a way to get the default printers from gnome to work on the GIMP?
[12:00] <santa99> is there a channel for open office especially ?
[12:01] <JoseStefan> #openoffice
[12:01] <JoseStefan> #openoffice.org
[12:01] <nalpha> im use windows too and afraid the not running virus on linux run on my windows
[12:01] <nalpha> nowgone: how to crack?
[12:01] <nalpha> avg say it's free? why must crack?
[12:01] <hockyhair> hola
[12:01] <Jobberwacky> gimp hates CUPS
[12:01] <onkarshinde> san|one: Install cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[12:02] <Skygge> virus scanners are unnecessary even on windows.
[12:02] <hockyhair> what would be the best sound forge esqe program for linux, i need something that will let me record my vinyl to wav
[12:02] <nowgone> nalpha: thet not easy if u are beginer
[12:02] <onkarshinde> hockyhair: audacity
[12:02] <JoseStefan> Skygge, if the user is cautious enough, agreed
[12:02] <nowgone> nalpha: that not easy if u are beginer
[12:02] <santa99> Skygge, i agree fully
[12:03] <nalpha> nowgone: avg say it's free but we must crack it??
[12:03] <Jobberwacky> you might use gthumb to print an image through CUPS
[12:03] <san|one> onkarshinde: and than the gnome printers will be listed in the GIMP?
[12:03] <hockyhair> onkarshinde: audacity is the name of the program? it's not in the repos
[12:03] <Skygge> the only real dangers on windows for a sensible user are worms exploiting vulnerabilities, and almsot no scanner will catch those.
[12:03] <onkarshinde> hockyhair: It is in universe repos.
[12:03] <onkarshinde> !repos
[12:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:03] <onkarshinde> san|one: hopefully
[12:03] <san|one> :)
[12:03] <san|one> k
[12:04] <Jobberwacky> yet nothing can stop windows vulnerabilities
[12:04] <hockyhair> onkarshinde: which repo
[12:04] <san|one> hockyhair: audacity - A fast, cross-platform audio editor
[12:04] <zack__> what would be the terminal command to go back to the default ati driver?
[12:04] <onkarshinde> hockyhair: universe
[12:05] <afief> Has anybody succesfully compiled Cinelerra?
[12:05] <nowgone> can somebody tell my, when i run the ubuntu, write error x server... my screen is black
[12:05] <nowgone> what to do?
[12:05] <nalpha> another question how to compile c++ what software i must download and install??
[12:05] <JoseStefan> gtg
[12:06] <zack__> i edited my xorg.conf file and now x wont start, and i replaced it with my backup but it still wont start. how do i fix this?
[12:06] <nowgone> i try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:07] <nowgone> ?!
[12:07] <zack__> nowgone , it says xserver-xrg is broken
[12:07] <nowgone> ?
[12:07] <zack__> xserver-xorg *
[12:07] <nowgone> can u explain
[12:08] <nowgone> its not broken.... only i most instal driver for ati radeon
[12:08] <square> mornin'
[12:08] <zack__> i typed "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it said back to me "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[12:09] <iceman> Ok, looking for advise, and feedback, I want to set up a Video Servalance system that will record frams, but what to use to store the Video, how many cameras can i record... any input ...
[12:09] <square> guys i was reading the section on installing the ati driver/files.. it says to read the section about adding the restricting repository
[12:09] <square> and provides a link, but i still dont see anything about the restricted repository
[12:10] <nowgone> aha... that for u... for me.. run some special window and then i can configure my driver (graphic,keybord...)
[12:10] <crashd> is there anyway to make the panel bars in ubuntu resize to smaller than '23'?
[12:10] <crashd> pixels, that is
[12:10] <square> crashd: thats a gnome thing
[12:11] <crashd> well, clearly
[12:11] <cope> nalpha, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[12:11] <zack__> square, i believe that link should be the repository
[12:11] <onkarshinde> iceman: In v4l homepage there is a link to a program for video surveillance. I don't remember program name exactly.
[12:11] <square> so try #gnome
[12:11] <square> zack__: hrm?
[12:11] <zack__> square a repository is a link
[12:12] <iceman> onkarshinde ill google that .... any other feedback ?
[12:12] <square> yeh great, so wheres the repository link?
[12:12] <onkarshinde> square: which graphics card?
[12:12] <square> Radeon Saphire X1600 PCI-E
[12:12] <onkarshinde> iceman: That program can use upto 3 webcan IIRC
[12:12] <zack__> square can you give me a link to the page you are looking at?
[12:12] <square> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[12:12] <onkarshinde> square: restricted repos is enabled by default. Just make sure that driver available there works with your card.
[12:13] <Hazarath> Need help networking ubuntu to Win XP
[12:13] <square> scroll down to the 3d ati video card driver bit
[12:13] <square> read the first step
[12:13] <cope> Hazarath, get samba
[12:13] <square> i go to chapter 2 like it says and i see nothing about the restricted repository
[12:13] <iceman> onkarshinde ever used any of that software, wondering about HDD space in releation to time
[12:13] <Hazarath> cope, how? Package manager?
[12:13] <cope> Hazarath, yea... sudo apt-get install samba
[12:14] <onkarshinde> iceman: never used it.
[12:14] <cope> Hazarath, its easy as hell to set up from there, its very straight foward
[12:14] <zack__> square do you just want to know how to add the restricted repositories?
[12:14] <onkarshinde> Hazarath: you can do it from package manager also
[12:14] <square> zack__: yup
[12:14] <kaolti> back...
[12:14] <Hazarath> onkarshinde, getting via apt-get
[12:14] <zack__> square the way you do it is you have to go to update manager, do you know how to get there?
[12:15] <Hazarath> I still think ubuntu is so over winders, been using about a mounth, love it. :3
[12:15] <square> zack__: yeah..
[12:15] <spinz8r> hi, really need help to restore broken xserver. pls assist.
[12:15] <santa99> does anybody know if there are some themes for open office available
[12:15] <kaolti> i burned the cd with imgburn fro the link u said but when testing the cd had i/o error
[12:15] <kaolti> so im burning it again
[12:15] <kaolti> :(
[12:15] <onkarshinde> santa99: I dont' think so
[12:15] <square> zack__: im at the update manager
[12:15] <zack__> square, ok open it up and go to preferences
[12:16] <cope> Hazarath, apt-get is gold. the package manager spoon feeds, if your serious about linux, don't be afraid to open a terminal!
[12:16] <eggzeck[laptop] > spinz8r, just ask your question, you'll bever find help that way.
[12:16] <zack__> square hold on a second
[12:16] <eggzeck[laptop] > s/bever/never/
[12:16] <iceman> onkarshinde wish i could setup a "tivo" type system, need to set up between 3 and 5 cameras. but have never done much in video. also what to use for a Storage system.
[12:16] <cope> Hazarath, its a steep learning curve, but within a month or so you'll wonder how you lived without it
[12:16] <Daniel_GBG> dpes anyone know how to get an anonymes ip?
[12:16] <Hazarath> cope, I prefer aptget
[12:16] <square> zack__: k
[12:17] <zack__> square are you at preferecnes?
[12:17] <nowgone> daniel_gbg: with proxy
[12:17] <onkarshinde> iceman: never worked on it really.
[12:17] <square> zack__: i think so
[12:17] <santa99> onkarshinde, what a pity
[12:17] <onkarshinde> santa99: about what?
[12:17] <square> i have 3 tabs, installation media, internet updates, authentication
[12:17] <jcml_uk> Daniel_GBG: just use an address in the 192.168.x.x range - no-one'll bother you then ...
[12:17] <san|one> onkarshinde: well that ( cupsys-driver-gimpprint ) didn't help :(
[12:17] <jcml_uk> ... (ever)
[12:17] <santa99> onkarshinde, that there are no themes available for open office
[12:17] <iceman> onkarshinde same here, got a uncle that need security on a business property, but he's a Windows Slave ...
[12:18] <san|one> it's kinda wack to have a good working printer/scanner but not beeing able to use it on the GIMP...
[12:18] <onkarshinde> san|one: is your printer working currently? Can you print from other programs?
[12:18] <zack__> square what are the names of the buttons at the bottom? (i dont have mine up to look at )
[12:18] <square> zack__: umm.. "help" and "close"
[12:18] <Daniel_GBG> well I need a other ipadress to use on the net
[12:19] <san|one> onkarshinde: sure.. the default image viewer (Eye of GNOME 2.14.3) works
[12:19] <san|one> as well xsane for the scanning
[12:19] <zack__> square ok thats not the prefences of update manager thats just update manager
[12:19] <square> zack__: oh.. :/
[12:19] <Hazarath> cope, got erros, but pastebin.com isn't loading.
[12:19] <onkarshinde> san|one: Then I don't know what the problem is.
[12:19] <Daniel_GBG> I would like to go into some sites that does check for ip adress
[12:19] <zack__> square umm i just switch to dapper so im trying to find where you get to the preferences
 ok, xserver down when i started installing 3D accceleration on iBookG4. (was doing it via help file). how do i get xserver alive again. tks.
[12:19] <square> zack__:  ok
[12:19] <zack__> swuare o wait
[12:19] <zack__> square i told you wrong
[12:19] <cope> Hazarath, what error?
[12:20] <Daniel_GBG> any I need another one to use
[12:20] <Hazarath> A pile of 'em.
[12:20] <nowgone> daniel_GBG: use proxy...
[12:20] <Hazarath> cope, PM ok?
[12:20] <cope> yepo
[12:20] <square> zack__: .. ok?
[12:20] <zack__> square go to system > administration > software properties
[12:20] <Daniel_GBG> oki with a proxy will my public adress be the same as it is now or diffrent?
[12:20] <square> yeh thats where i was
[12:20] <nowgone> diffrent...
[12:21] <zack__> square then click the add button to the left of the window
[12:21] <foglight> Daniel_GBG: whatismyip.com
[12:21] <eggzeck[laptop] > spinz8r, Did you backup /etc/X11/xorg.congf ?
[12:21] <square> zack__: yup
[12:21] <zack__> check all 4 boces and press  add
[12:21] <san|one> onkarshinde: tnx for you time anyway!
[12:21] <Daniel_GBG> well but I need to change my current IP address..
[12:21] <foglight> Daniel_GBG: http://tor.eff.org/
[12:21] <square> zack__: done
[12:21] <Daniel_GBG> I already know my IP address of today..
[12:21] <opexoc> Could anybody tell me how can I display all packages which have been installed thanks to source ( tar.gz ) - no debian packages?
[12:21] <kaolti> yes i heard tor is good
[12:21] <kaolti> but they say its getting crappy
[12:22] <kaolti> a lot of ppl use and its slow
[12:22] <zack__> square now in the channels window inside software properties anything that say multiverse or universe make it have a check mark
[12:22] <zack__> square then click close adn your done
[12:22] <square> ok, thansk
[12:22] <square> thanks
[12:23] <Daniel_GBG> what version do you download?
[12:23] <iceman> shoow what cameras to use ?
[12:23] <kaolti> omg i get another i/o error at verifying. at 99%!!!!!!!!!!!11
[12:23] <nowgone> :) ... when u use proxy changer ... u mask your real ip address...couse u tuneling your data across another server
[12:23] <R0cK3T> hi all
[12:23] <R0cK3T> i seem to have messed up my xorg.conf
[12:23] <R0cK3T> but i saved a backup
[12:23] <R0cK3T> how do i revert back to the origional?
[12:24] <R0cK3T> i tried this
[12:24] <square> ok, i needa reboot
[12:24] <square> brb
[12:24] <R0cK3T> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-0 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <Osio> hi
[12:25] <R0cK3T> it seemed to work
[12:25] <cope> Hazarath, it looks like it installed
[12:25] <nowgone> cp ..is for copy ...it isnt?
[12:25] <cope> Hazarath, try run it now, it should be in System menu someewhere
[12:25] <cope> eh
[12:25] <R0cK3T> yeah
[12:25] <Osio> can someone help me with ubuntu and lspci
[12:25] <R0cK3T> is there another way?
[12:25] <Osio> ???
[12:25] <nowgone> hmm... i dont know..realy
[12:26] <Osio> lspci ist empty
[12:26] <bill__> #join /kubuntu
[12:26] <R0cK3T> should i delete the xorg.conf and then try to rename the .original?
[12:26] <highvoltage> clear
[12:26] <onkarshinde> Osio: What do you mean by is empty?
[12:26] <R0cK3T> or if i try to rename the original, will it overwrite the xorg,conf?
[12:27] <Hazarath> Oh, crap...
[12:27] <nowgone> u most cp from backup file... in file where is xorg.conf
[12:27] <afief> Has anybody succesfully compiled Cinelerra?
[12:28] <Osio> it shows nothing
[12:28] <Osio> as if it doenst see any PCI deivce
[12:28] <R0cK3T> i did that
[12:28] <R0cK3T> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-0 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:28] <gnomefreak> afief: isnt it n the repos?
[12:28] <sqdfpoiupouilmkj> hi, i was wondering, how would you go about hiding software from your default ls command?
[12:28] <R0cK3T> it said "are you sure you want to overwrite xorg.conf"
[12:28] <R0cK3T> i said yes
[12:29] <afief> gnomefreak: apt-get install cinelerra said it's not there
[12:29] <R0cK3T> then i rebooted
[12:29] <R0cK3T> but nothin
[12:29] <onkarshinde> Osio: Where di you typr that command?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> !info cinelerra
[12:29] <ubotu> Package cinelerra does not exist in any distro I know
[12:29] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[12:29] <Lynoure> sqdfpoiupouilmkj: Why do you want to?
[12:29] <nowgone> hmmm ...mayby backup its not ok..
[12:29] <sqdfpoiupouilmkj> Lynoure: i dont want to...irl...but im making a game and i would like to base everything on realistic methods
[12:30] <R0cK3T> :x
[12:30] <sqdfpoiupouilmkj> www.nabu.be <- this is the original game i made, im now working on nabu2
[12:30] <Hazarath> Ok, got smba install errors.
[12:30] <nowgone> ?
[12:30] <Hazarath> ^samba
[12:30] <magus_x> the security repo is down?
[12:30] <Osio> in the console
[12:30] <afief> gnomefreak: the ./configure part went quite well, but while running make i got this error: Assembler messages:
[12:30] <afief> FATAL: can't create i686/soundtest.o: No such file or directory
[12:30] <afief> make[1] : *** [i686/soundtest.o]  Error 1
[12:30] <afief> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/afief/src/cinelerra-2.1'
[12:30] <afief> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[12:30] <iceman> anyone know anything abour the SONDVR software ?
[12:30] <sqdfpoiupouilmkj> Lynoure: so you  know how you could go about it in linux?
[12:30] <bezibaerchen> where is gnome-meeting under dapper
[12:30] <sqdfpoiupouilmkj> would you append something to the file or delete it from some registry or...?
[12:30] <Tjoels> the X config utility asks for all kinds of stuff i don't want to change, how can i skip them?
[12:31] <afief> bezibaerchen: it's called Ekiga now
[12:31] <bezibaerchen> afief: ah, ok, thx
[12:31] <afief> bezibaerchen: you're welcome
[12:31] <Hazarath> Samba install errors... pastebin down...
[12:31] <raashaad2020> internet didnot work in the wriless
[12:31] <onkarshinde> bezibaerchen: Applications->Internet->Ekiga
[12:31] <bezibaerchen> onkarshinde: yeah found it, wasn't aware of the "namechange"
[12:32] <bezibaerchen> Hazarath: use nopaste.biz
[12:32] <raashaad2020> how speak arabic
[12:32] <Lynoure> sqdfpoiupouilmkj: depends on the end goal and limitations... but prolly some cracker channel is more helpful for you in general
[12:33] <highvoltage> !paste
[12:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:33] <raashaad2020> or ubuntu arabic ahannel
[12:33] <sqdfpoiupouilmkj> Lynoure: true, though i know most of what i need to know except this :P
[12:33] <Hazarath> http://nopaste.biz/?7897
[12:33] <Hazarath> My error
[12:33] <mark_> Hazarath, check your pm champ
[12:34] <R0cK3T> can anyone help me out with xorg.conf
[12:34] <Hazarath> mark_, eh?
[12:34] <sqdfpoiupouilmkj> Lynoure: added to which, i dont know any cracker channels ;)
[12:35] <mark_> Hazarath, its cope.. netsplit killed my nick
[12:35] <mark_> Hazarath, i just sent you a pm with instructions
[12:35] <Hazarath> mark_, I yoinked my modem/hub by accedent, didn't get it.
[12:36] <Daniel_GBG> it does not help to use a proxy..
[12:36] <cope_oz> Hazarath, check in your system --> administrator menu
[12:36] <Daniel_GBG> I still have the same IP address
[12:36] <cope_oz> Hazarath, you'll find it there
[12:37] <Hazarath> cope_oz, as?
[12:37] <R0cK3T> help me plz
[12:38] <zack__> has anyone else compiled win on ubuntu who can help me?
[12:38] <zack__> wine*
[12:38] <cope_oz> Hazarath, samba
[12:38] <Daniel_GBG> help me with my ip?
[12:38] <Hazarath> cope_oz, not there.
[12:38] <blujay> zack__: have you tried apt-src?
[12:38] <zack__> blujay what is that?
[12:38] <cope_oz> Hazarath, uhmm, goto terminal, type whereis samba
[12:39] <blujay> zack__: makes it easy to download sources and build and install Debian packages.  apt-get install apt-src then man apt-src
[12:39] <Hazarath> hazarath@hazarath-one:~$ whereis samba
[12:39] <Hazarath> samba: /etc/samba /usr/lib/samba /usr/share/samba /usr/share/man/man7/samba.7.gz
[12:39] <arvind_> hi there.... i installed ubuntu LAMP with ubuntu-desktop.....installed joomla... i see the site good on my http://localhost/bvc but when i look at it from outside at http://202.141.154.148/bvc the theme is skinned and i see the php running as text file can anyone help me?
[12:39] <cope_oz> Hazarath, so its installed, type samba in your command line see what happens
[12:40] <zack__> blujay are you using ubuntu 64?
[12:40] <blujay> arvind_: I'm guessing it's something in your Apache config
[12:40] <Hazarath> hazarath@hazarath-one:~$ samba
[12:40] <Hazarath> bash: samba: command not found
[12:40] <blujay> zack__: no I'm using Debian
[12:40] <zack__> blujay i just have 1 question about this command because its not working
[12:40] <arvind_> however ..... http://202.141.154.148/phpmyadmin works and http://202.141.154.148:10000 works well without loss of theme
[12:40] <Lynoure> sqdfpoiupouilmkj: msg me and explain how it is all benign and perhaps I can find you something
[12:40] <blujay> zack__: are you using Ubuntu 64?
[12:40] <zack__> blujay yes
[12:41] <blujay> zack__: well, go ahead and ask, but I really have no idea how WINE running 32-bit exes will work in a 64-bit Linux...I haven't even thought about it
[12:41] <Daniel_GBG> I need help with IP address..
[12:41] <Hazarath> www.whatismyip.com
[12:41] <Daniel_GBG> is thereany why to change the public IP address?
[12:41] <Hazarath> Oh... donno.
[12:41] <Macros42> Daniel_GBG, no - your ISP sets it
[12:42] <cope_oz> Hazarath, got me stuffed.. maybe remove (sudo apt-get remove samba) and try install again
[12:42] <arvind_> blujay:  where shud i look for help?
[12:42] <Daniel_GBG> oki...  so its no way to change it?
[12:42] <zack__> blujay im at the how to to get the 32 bit libraries but when i type this command " LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32"  ./configure" i get a error saying " bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[12:42] <R0cK3T> can someone help me out with a command to revert back to my origional xorg.conf??
[12:42] <jcml_uk> Daniel_GBG: you pay your ISP.  Or use a proxy.  That's about it.  You could also google Tor ...
[12:42] <blujay> arvind_: probably a Joomla forum or FAQ for starters
[12:42] <Macros42> Daniel_GBG, you most likely have a dynamic ip from your isp. IT may change occasionally. If you have a static one you can ask them for a different one
[12:42] <Daniel_GBG> well I trying to use tor but I do not seam to get it..
[12:42] <blujay> zack__: um...that means you're not in the directory where the configure script is
[12:43] <zack__> blujay how do i get to that directory?
[12:43] <blujay> zack__: use the cd command
[12:43] <Daniel_GBG> I have a dynamic and the problem is that my current IP is blocked on may sites..
[12:43] <Daniel_GBG> how every I have tryed to get a new IP but I always get the same one..
[12:43] <blujay> zack__: as in $(cd /home/zack/wherever/you/extracted/the/files)
[12:44] <Macros42> that's cause it uses a lease - the length of that can vary
[12:44] <midgetg0at> heya guys, i've got a permissions annoyance. WHen i'm using BlueFish...my preferences dont get saved...anyone know which file i'd need to chmod?
[12:44] <SpComb> Daniel_GBG: perhaps ponder why your current IP is blocked and so something about that?
[12:44] <blujay> midgetg0at: anything in ~/.bluefish ?
[12:44] <Macros42> SpComb, was about to say that too
[12:44] <midgetg0at> sean@AMD643500:~/.bluefish$ ls
[12:44] <midgetg0at> custom_menu   dir_history   highlighting   rcfile_v2   session
[12:44] <midgetg0at> custom_menu~  dir_history~  highlighting~  rcfile_v2~  session~
[12:44] <Daniel_GBG> it blocked due to abuse, however I just got this IP yesterday..
[12:45] <Daniel_GBG> and I have not commited any abuse..
[12:45] <mneptok> arr!
[12:45] <blujay> midgetg0at: I'd look at the permissions of those files
[12:45] <Macros42> contact your ISP and tell them. They can exclude that address from the dhcp range
[12:45] <midgetg0at> ok, how do i view attribs?
[12:45] <midgetg0at> :D
[12:45] <Daniel_GBG> oki..
[12:45] <blujay> midgetg0at: ls -l
[12:45] <midgetg0at> ty
[12:45] <Macros42> only other way is to keep resetting your router until you get a new one
[12:45] <blujay> midgetg0at: don't forget about $(man ls) :)
[12:45] <midgetg0at> everything is
[12:45] <midgetg0at> -rw-r--r--
[12:45] <midgetg0at> hah, yes - sorry
[12:45] <midgetg0at> just frustrated
[12:45] <blujay> midgetg0at: are you the owner of those files?
[12:46] <Hazarath> Ok... cope_oz I re-installed via package manager, still can't find.
[12:46] <midgetg0at> yes
[12:46] <blujay> midgetg0at: what's the last-modified date and time on those files?  recent?
[12:46] <Daniel_GBG> we if there is no other easier way then to sit in a phone que for an hourer I will have to do that..
[12:46] <midgetg0at> -rw-r--r-- 1 sean sean 17387 2006-09-06 06:36 custom_menu
[12:46] <Osio> lspci in console is empty. NEED Help
[12:46] <midgetg0at> they are all the same date
[12:46] <barata> hallo all, anybody uses rlocate?
[12:46] <blujay> midgetg0at: well I'd have to guess that you don't have a permissions problem.  maybe make sure that the app is really terminated when you close it.  if it is, then maybe it's a bug in the app.
[12:46] <barata> i wonder how i can do that in ubuntu
[12:46] <Daniel_GBG> does anyone know the address to the swedish chatroom for ubuntu?
[12:47] <blujay> barata: I use slocate...
 barata: I use slocate... --> is it the one with the kernel module?
[12:47] <blujay> barata: no...sorry
[12:47] <midgetg0at> hrm....thats annoying. everytime i open it, i have to set the document base, the history steps to keep, the save properties..remove a couple annoying toolbars.
[12:47] <barata> rlocate is the most powerful locate
[12:47] <blujay> midgetg0at: check the bug tracker?
[12:47] <midgetg0at> no, didnt even cross my mind..
[12:48] <barata> but it requires a kernel module
[12:48] <midgetg0at> i've been on linux/ubuntu for 5 days.
[12:48] <blujay> barata: I assume you've googled for "ubuntu rlocate"?
[12:48] <midgetg0at> :)
[12:48] <blujay> midgetg0at: oh ok then
[12:48] <cope_oz> Hazarath, it should just turn up in a menu, maybe restart gnome (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:48] <barata> doesnt work, I wish to hear a first hand experience, better :)
[12:48] <midgetg0at> lots of "obvoius" things don't pop up in my brain yet.
[12:48] <blujay> midgetg0at: well I'd go to the bug tracker for that app and see if anyone else has noticed the problem
[12:48] <Daniel_GBG> anyone good at tor?
[12:48] <midgetg0at> sounds good. thanks.
[12:48] <Osio> lspci in console is empty. NEED Help
[12:48] <barata> * mneptok used to know a Michael Barata years ago .. --> guess he was good looking too, huh? :)
[12:48] <blujay> midgetg0at: good luck
[12:49] <mneptok> barata: sure, if you find 10 year old boys "good looking" >:)
[12:49] <Daniel_GBG> Help with TOR anyone?
[12:49] <Mortice> !tor
[12:49] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
 barata: sure, if you find 10 year old boys "good looking" >:) ---> damned ... a Karr's friend in here!
[12:49] <Osio> lspci in console is empty. NEED Help
[12:49] <Osio> please
[12:50] <Daniel_GBG> yes but how do I use it?
[12:50] <Mortice> Daniel: try the tof channel on OFTC
[12:50] <Mortice> *tor
[12:50] <mneptok> Daniel_GBG: EFF has extensive documentation
[12:50] <Daniel_GBG> eff?
[12:50] <jcml_uk> Daniel_GBG: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=tor . IRC isn't a replacement RTFSE
[12:51] <jcml_uk> s/replacement/replacement for/
[12:51] <mneptok> Electronic Frontier Foundation. the people that created TOR.
[12:51] <Daniel_GBG> I have searched on google but I still do not get it..
[12:51] <mneptok> then maybe it's not for you.
[12:51] <Daniel_GBG> I have installed it and just cant find the program.
[12:51] <mneptok> it's not a program
[12:51] <jcml_uk> I'd uninstall it, then.
[12:51] <Daniel_GBG> oki..
[12:51] <mneptok> it's a suite of command line utilities that work together to re-route your traffic
[12:52] <jcml_uk> It's not clicky-pointy-drool, I'm afraid.
[12:52] <Daniel_GBG> yes but how do I make it work after installation?
[12:52] <mneptok> it's not some shiny desktop icon that says "CLICK ME TO HIDE FROM THE NSA!"
[12:52] <barata> hallo all, where is spadmin?
[12:53] <jcml_uk> "AND WHERE'S THE W4R3Z, dood??"
[12:53] <jcml_uk> :)
[12:53] <barata> I use standard openoffice from ubuntu
[12:53] <Marlun> when downloading ubuntu theres "desktop/server/alternate" what is alternate? And also, can I burn the isos on DVDs even though it's for a CD? I'm out of CD-Rs.
[12:53] <barata> cant find spadmin though
[12:53] <Lilandra> ubuntu doesn't like my computer
[12:53] <jcml_uk> barata: he stepped out for a moment.  back in a second.
[12:53] <mneptok> good rule of thumb: if you expect an app to give you a clicky icon and it doesn't, there's a high likelihood your skills and the skills necessary to successfully use said app are not compatible.
 barata: he stepped out for a moment.  back in a second. ---> spadmin is a printer control for openoffice
[12:54] <Hazarath> cope_oz, no good, still not there.
[12:54] <jcml_uk> barata: 'twas a joke ...
[12:54] <mneptok> Marlun: "alternate" is the pre-Dapper "install
[12:54] <barata> normally it's under openofice & program folder
[12:54] <barata> i c
[12:54] <Lilandra> pre-Dapper?
[12:55] <mneptok> exactly.
[12:55] <Lilandra> mneptok: pre-Dapper? seriously? then why do they list it on the same page?
[12:55] <Marlun> mneptok: pre-Dapper install? old version of dapper?
[12:55] <Marlun> exactly :)
[12:55] <mneptok> Lilandra: no, the Dapper "alternate" CD is what every release pre-Dapper called the "install cd"
[12:55] <Lilandra> so why trick us into downloading it?
[12:55] <Lilandra> ah! ok
[12:55] <maswan> No, not installing pre-Dapper, installation using the old text-based install
[12:55] <mneptok> text mode install. no live features.
[12:55] <maswan> (but updated to install Dapper)
[12:56] <jcml_uk> is there a tangible difference between the install you end up with using the "alternate" versus the LiveCD?
[12:56] <mneptok> maswan? as in that-network-over-there maswan? :)
[12:56] <maswan> mneptok: indeed
[12:56] <mneptok> heya :)
[12:56] <mneptok> maswan: welcome to the monkeyhouse :)
[12:56] <Lilandra> i think alternate can possibly give u all versions
[12:56] <Marlun> so to be able to install both a server and a desktop i should download the desktop?
[12:56] <Lilandra> but ubuntu doesn't like my computer
[12:56] <Marlun> the desktop version, that is.
[12:56] <Lilandra> the alternate has a server option
[12:56] <mneptok> Marlun: get the desktop and server. there's no need for X on a server.
[12:57] <mneptok> (tip: best feature of the alternate CD is the OEM target install) ;)
[12:57] <Marlun> mneptok: but can't I choose "server" installation with the desktop version cd?
[12:57] <Marlun> do I need to burn 2 cds to be able to choose?
[12:57] <mneptok> Marlun: you can, but that can get tedious if you're deploying multiple machines.
[12:57] <jcml_uk> Marlun: no, you need to choose, then burn 1 cd.
[12:58] <Lilandra> Marlun: get the alternate
[12:58] <maswan> mneptok: thanks. I've almost always been here, just not very active. :)
[12:58] <Hazarath> Ok, need help with Samba?
[12:58] <sobersabre> hi, is this possible to use ekiga for calling netmeeting users ?
[12:58] <mneptok> maswan: at least i get *paid* for being here, so i have an excuse :P
[12:58] <Lilandra> my ubuntu freezes!!
[12:58] <maswan> mneptok: heh. I try to remember to ask my silly questions in here other than over in mirror admin channels, etc. :)
[12:59] <sobersabre> Lilandra: this is great, this way it doesn't decompose.
[12:59] <jcml_uk> mneptok: so what's the hourly rate like on "IRC badger", then?
[12:59] <mneptok> Lilandra: try disabling ACPI
[12:59] <jcml_uk> :-)
[12:59] <sobersabre> Lilandra how does it happen ?
[12:59] <Hazarath> Samba doesn't like me, help.
[12:59] <Lilandra> i guess you mean no smells when it decomposes
[12:59] <mneptok> jcml_uk: no idea, but Canonical pays well ;)
[12:59] <Lilandra> mneptok: how do i disable ACPI
[12:59] <sobersabre> Lilandra, no not "no smells"
[12:59] <jcml_uk> hehehe
[12:59] <afief> !info libraw1394
[12:59] <ubotu> Package libraw1394 does not exist in any distro I know
[12:59] <Lilandra> sobersabre: i login to gui and next thing i know it freezes
[12:59] <mneptok> Lilandra: you can turn it off at boot time with kernel options
[12:59] <Lilandra> i wasn't sure if it was the mouse/kb but the whole thing doesn't change
[12:59] <sobersabre> Lilandra do u know your graphic card name/chipset ?
[01:00] <Lilandra> errr
[01:00] <mneptok> Lilandra: ooo! that sounds like GDM woes.
[01:00] <Lilandra> it's an old nvidia
[01:00] <mneptok> sobersabre: if it was the video, X would not display even the login screen
[01:00] <Lilandra> which i used with my old computer once upon a time on older ubuntus and it didn't freeze :(
[01:00] <sobersabre> Lilandra and have you read the file ~/.xsession-errors ?
[01:00] <sobersabre> mneptok thank you for your assistance.
[01:00] <mneptok> Lilandra: can you get into the command line?
[01:00] <Lilandra> well not yet because i haven't rebooted into text mode yet
[01:00] <Lilandra> hold on
[01:01] <sobersabre> np
[01:01] <ndlovu> anyone know of drivers for a trident cyberblade graphics card under ubuntu?
[01:01] <sobersabre> ndlovu there are trident cyberblade drivers.
[01:02] <jcml_uk> "cyberblade", IIRC. it's been a while
[01:02] <sobersabre> there are many trident cb though...
[01:02] <Lilandra> mneptok: alright i'm in recovery
[01:02] <jcml_uk> or "blade3d" ...
[01:02] <Lilandra> at root command line
[01:02] <mneptok> Lilandra: are you in your ~/ ?
[01:02] <sobersabre> Lilandra login as your regular user.
[01:02] <Lilandra> oh, no .xsession-errors. and i should say that i only just installed ubuntu
[01:02] <Lilandra> how
[01:03] <Lilandra> ah..
[01:03] <sobersabre> hm... username >your user name...
[01:03] <Lilandra> ...?
[01:03] <mneptok> Lilandra: what prompt do you see right now?
[01:04] <Lilandra> i am rebooting... root@ubuntu
[01:04] <mneptok> sobersabre: she's in recovery mode. she should have automagically been logged-in as root.
[01:04] <barata> hoi ... does the standard 6.0.6 DVD install have jre install too?
[01:04] <barata> I'm fixing my java pathes
[01:04] <Lilandra> but i exited...so i got back the gdm
[01:04] <Lilandra> so...rebooting
[01:04] <sobersabre> no...
[01:04] <sobersabre> run.. "su - <your username>
[01:04] <barata> sobersabre: no java?
[01:04] <sobersabre> barata ?
[01:04] <sobersabre> no
[01:05] <barata> oky
[01:05] <sobersabre> Lilandra before you reboot run the command: su - <username>
[01:05] <Lilandra> i will
[01:05] <sobersabre> but you can view your user's files as root too
[01:05] <Lilandra> but why do i need to be regular user?
[01:05] <Lilandra> i know
[01:06] <sobersabre> anyway, so as root you can incpect the files in /var/log
[01:06] <Lilandra> sobersabre: why do i need to be regular user?
[01:06] <sobersabre> like: messages, debug, kern.log
[01:06] <sobersabre> Lilandra you don't.
[01:06] <jgonzalez> hi
[01:06] <mneptok> Lilandra: i have something that may be an easier fix ....
[01:06] <jgonzalez> my openoffice give an error when i try to print into a file (ps format)
[01:06] <jgonzalez> what could happend?
[01:06] <ndlovu> sobersabre: according to google, it's supported by the 'trident' driver under x.org. how would I set x.org to use that driver?
[01:07] <sobersabre> ndlovu you can edit x.org conf file
[01:07] <ndlovu> sobersabre, thanks, will look into that...
[01:08] <sobersabre> the file is built of sections, you need to edit the Section "Device"
[01:08] <ndlovu> /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:08] <sobersabre> replace the driver line with the driver named "trident"
[01:08] <sobersabre> ndlovu yes.
[01:10] <STORMCHAS3R> How do I enable xgl on an IBM R51?
[01:11] <ndlovu> sobersabre,  thanks - it seems it's already using trident! Must just be too outdated to handle today's graphics demands :(
[01:13] <eXistenZ> what is the $IFS variable?
[01:13] <STORMCHAS3R> !xgl
[01:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:13] <jcml_uk> eXistenZ: man bash
[01:14] <jcml_uk> eXistenZ: /IFS
[01:14] <eXistenZ> jcml_uk, danke! :)
[01:15] <LookTJ> im thinking about reinstalling xp'
[01:15] <STORMCHAS3R> LookTJ, dont do it
[01:15] <LookTJ> but i forgot howto reinstall grub
[01:15] <eXistenZ> LookTJ, Going back to xp?
[01:15] <STORMCHAS3R> dont got back to the evil side
[01:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> LookTJ: you can use windows bootloader to load linux parition ;)
[01:16] <eXistenZ> LookTJ, I don't see ubuntu an alternative for windows in terms of desktop usage.
[01:16] <eXistenZ> I use ubuntu for my server
[01:16] <LookTJ> look, i know xp i know howto get rid of holes they make -.-
[01:16] <jgonzalez> hi
[01:16] <jgonzalez> nobody can help me?
[01:16] <LookTJ> but i need IE
[01:16] <jgonzalez> openoffice from ubuntu can
[01:16] <STORMCHAS3R> jgonzalez, waht is the beef?
[01:16] <jgonzalez> can't print to a file using "print to file"
[01:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> !ask > jgonzalez
[01:17] <jgonzalez> i can't debug it (i don't know how to debug openoffice)
[01:17] <jgonzalez> DeeTahPanLtah, openoffice fails when i try to print to a file, i think is a problem with ps, but other gnome utils (gedit) can do it
[01:18] <jgonzalez> DeeTahPanLtah, and i don't know how to debug openoffice
[01:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> ...neither do i ;P
[01:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> what i'd do if its that urgent is to read documentation's reading section.
[01:19] <cjuilun> does anyone know which initial script will load device driver on boot?
[01:19] <jgonzalez> i have read, looking in google, ubuntu forums ... etc
[01:19] <jgonzalez> but i don't find a solution
[01:19] <DeeTahPanLtah> sorry then. never printed to a file ;<
[01:19] <domster> I'm having trouble with a network card; a Realtek 8139D. lspci seems to be showing the wrong model number: it shows 0139 instead. All google turns up is an unanswered kernel mailinglist thread, which seems to be the problem I'm having (http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0403.1/1707.html)
[01:19] <domster> any ideas
[01:20] <DeeTahPanLtah> domster: okay,can't you really live with wrong netcard's id?
[01:20] <domster> DeeTahPanLtah: well, no, because it doesn't work
[01:21] <DeeTahPanLtah> if i was you i'd try compiling your own kernel,without old network cards' drivers. it's quite simple if you know what you're looking for
[01:21] <DeeTahPanLtah> maybe there's some vendor's kernel patch?
[01:21] <DeeTahPanLtah> e-mailing him could help aswell
[01:21] <domster> DeeTahPanLtah: it's supposedly a supported card, without vendor patches
[01:22] <domster> it's supposed to be supported by the 8139cp module
[01:22] <DeeTahPanLtah> so see how it acts without 0139 one
[01:22] <domster> which I've tried modprobe'ing - goes through
[01:22] <Tjoels> I've edited my xorg.conf like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22721 but in the screen resolution menu "1280x1024" still didn't show up. What have i done wrong?
[01:23] <domster> DeeTahPanLtah: huh? you want me to compile myself a kernel, without the drivers for the network card I'm trying to get working, to see how it acts?
[01:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> domster: without the ones it tries to load by default
[01:25] <domster> DeeTahPanLtah: it doesn't load any by default?
[01:25] <nalpha> guys if my ip address listed in cbl what this mean? how can my ip listed in cbl?
[01:26] <DeeTahPanLtah> Tidus: try [ctr] +[alt] +[+] 
[01:26] <jcml_uk> nalpha: http://cbl.abuseat.org/
[01:26] <Tidus> DeeTahPanLtah: 3 letters then tab... you just highlighted the wrong nick
[01:27] <jcml_uk> nalpha: since it aggregates, who knows where your IP came from.
[01:27] <DeeTahPanLtah> Tidus: yeah,sorry,right ;)
[01:27] <DeeTahPanLtah> Tidus: hope the beep bell didn't wake you up ;p
[01:27] <nalpha> jcml_uk: sorry my english is not good can you explain me with more easy english?
[01:27] <nalpha> jcml_uk: sorry my english is not good can you explain me with more easy english? form the means of cbl
[01:27] <nalpha> i mean for
[01:28] <domster> DeeTahPanLtah: I thought Ubuntu detected your hardware, then loaded the required modules - what default NIC drivers are you talking about? yes? well, in this case, the 8139C+ (which it can deal with fine) is being detected as: 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd., Unknown device 0139 (rev 10)' - anyone have any idea why?
[01:28] <DeeTahPanLtah> i meant,if he'll be lacking 0139 maybe he'll try to load correct one? ;p
[01:29] <jcml_uk> nalpha: CBL /appears/ to be an RBL which aggregates /other/ RBLs.
[01:30] <domster> I should mention I have two of the same model, so it's probably not a problem with the card itself - anything I could try with regards to my pci bus setup?
[01:30] <domster> and is there a way to force it to associate the 8139cp module with the card (maybe with the HW address?) even though its not being detected
[01:31] <DeeTahPanLtah> afk
[01:34] <cute_bettong> is myth tv safe to use with ubuntu? i have a radeon all in wonder and am runnning dapper but theres something in the docs that say it's not safe to use with an ext3 filesystem...is there an easy alternative?
[01:34] <cute_bettong> or a specalised ubuntu howto?
[01:34] <yacek19>  hello, I have problem with authentication in  proftpd. Yesterday I have installed proftpd with mysql authentication on Ubuntu 5.10. Then at night I did dist-upgrade to 6.10.1 dapper. Now authentication doesn't work.
[01:34] <yacek19> ubuntu proftpd[4535]  localhost (localhost[127.0.0.1] ): USER yacek (Login failed): No such user found
[01:36] <lupine_85> cute_bettong: is it ext3 fielsystem in particular, or journaling FS in general?
[01:37] <elmargol> Hi It's interesting that no debian package proxy is in main.
[01:37] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, what about ext2? since ext3 is basically an ext2 partition with journalling.
[01:39] <speedydan> hey
[01:39] <mcphail> cute_bettong: i think the mythtv people recommend xfs and jfs
[01:40] <znull1> ubuntu works on a stick ?
[01:40] <mcphail> cute_bettong: but i have never had any problems with large files on ext3
[01:41] <Subhuman> mcmillen, xfs wouldnt be a good choice, since it requires alot of ram, and in the event of a power cut you will loose data for sure.
[01:41] <cute_bettong> mcphail, can you help me set it up on ubuntu dapper for a radeon card?
[01:41] <Marlun> When I try to install latest ubuntu with a desktop version it seems to get stuck on "Mounting root file system..." after I've clicked "Start or install ubuntu".
[01:41] <cute_bettong> i am over my head on this one
[01:41] <Subhuman> !mythtv
[01:41] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[01:41] <Subhuman> cute_bettong,  ^^
[01:41] <mcphail> cute_bettong: i have never used it. I just read some of the docs when i was considering a tv card.
[01:42] <cute_bettong> oh ok
[01:42] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, if you jus want to watch tv and dont need to record, try using "kdetv" , i use it and its pretty good.
[01:42] <arsalan> how to add more than one directories in one environment var. for e.g $CLASSPATH - is this command correct CLASSPATH=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_12
[01:42] <arsalan> CLASSPATH=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2/jre:"${CLASSPATH}"
[01:43] <Marlun> Now I get errors like "[#####.#####]  Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block #####" that don't sound good?
[01:44] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, where can i get that kdetv....i would like to record at some point...but not at the risk of crushing my shiny ubuntu box :)
[01:44] <cute_bettong> why the hell would a tv recording app need apache? O_o
[01:45] <ROBOd> how to konfigure gnome to use ksnapshot instead of its own package? for skreen kapturing?
[01:45] <mcphail> cute_bettong: so you can set it to record over the internet
[01:45] <ROBOd> print-screen
[01:45] <speedydan> how should i go about installing wine?
[01:45] <cute_bettong> oh jezze thats funnie.....hmm im looking at the link that ubuotu gave but it seems to be for breezy im useing dapper O_o
[01:46] <fyrestrtr> arsalan: hrmm, seems like you need to run sudo update-alternatives --config javac :)
[01:46] <spirit_>  i want to create the LFS ,i used the cfdisk ,but there  was no effect when i tried to partition from the hda6,now i have a kubuntu on the hda5
[01:46] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, where can i get kdetv from?
[01:46] <cute_bettong> it might be easyer to use than mythtv for someone of my....um non geeky skill :P
[01:47] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, its in the repositories, so just apt-get it.
[01:48] <cute_bettong> hmm i don't have it lol
[01:48] <cute_bettong> !repos
[01:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:48] <ROBOd> somebody? please
[01:49] <ROBOd> how to konfigure gnome to use ksnapshot instead of its own package? for skreen kapturing?
[01:49] <arsalan> fyrestrtr,  I got msg that no alternatives  for javac, but actually I want to add two directories to classpath variable, I added in the way I described but it says no directory found error, even both directory paths are correct :/
[01:50] <frandavid100> hi guys
[01:50] <frandavid100> do you know any compiz specific channel?
[01:50] <bignose_> so, i can't seem to make my volume go low enough. using logitech 350 usb headset.
[01:51] <arsalan> fyrestrtr: my main problem is when i compile using javac, i get java/lang/ no class def found error, I have installed java but still this error :(
[01:53] <Mortice> !compiz
[01:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:53] <jcml_uk> arsalan: sudo update-alternatives --display java
[01:53] <jcml_uk> Check you're using the version you /think/ you're using :-)
[01:56] <mausiwolf> hello
[01:57] <mausiwolf> anybody use cinelerra here ?
[01:57] <fyrestrtr> arsalan: how did you install java?
[01:58] <choongii> hi
[01:58] <Diggi> Hi
[01:59] <mausiwolf> hi
[01:59] <Diggi> uff i got a problem....
[01:59] <choongii> I've just installed shorewall and now I would like it to start at boot-time.. but the update-rc.d thing is rather confusing. I want it to start before everything else, but is there a way to like 'list' the scripts and order in which they are run for a certain runlevel?
[01:59] <choongii> other than `cd` into the rcX.d directory?
[02:00] <arsalan> fyrestrtr: I download the .bin from sun website , make it executable , then set CLASSPATH, PATH, JAVA_HOME myself, but I think i did some mistake.. I don't know what to do now, when I type java -version it says no classdefinition found error
[02:00] <Diggi> what about automatix?
[02:00] <Crippy-Boy> Diggi: which is?
[02:00] <Diggi> both with ubuntu and xubuntu i get a error with somthing named "pbbuttonsd" :S
[02:01] <Crippy-Boy> Diggi: You using a mac?
[02:01] <npster> How do I make Terminal to be black-transparent ?
[02:01] <Diggi> yah a mac g3 350mhz oc to 400
[02:01] <npster> as in KDE
[02:01] <cope_oz> npster, right click on the terminal window and go to properties
[02:01] <Crippy-Boy> Diggi: And whats the error
[02:01] <cope_oz> npster, sorry, its "edit current profile"
[02:02] <npster> cope_oz: OK, continue
[02:02] <cute_bettong> hmmm kde tv dosen't seem to like my video card :(
[02:02] <cope_oz> npster, ??? its in there, look and you shall find
[02:03] <npster> OK. I found it
[02:03] <arsalan> jcml_uk: I hav run that command, it shows many different paths, I guess java is installed in my machine at many different locations and now I am lost :), I don't know how to delete those all paths from my profile and just stick to one java installation..
[02:04] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, would you have any idea why kde tv dosen't seem to like my video card?
[02:04] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, because its a radeon card? ;)
[02:05] <cute_bettong> oh i thought it would work becasue it's an older radeon card
[02:05] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, umm by memory you need to download a package to be able to use the tv in on a radeon card
[02:05] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, any idea what that pacage might be
[02:06] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, umm search for "TV" in synaptic,
[02:06] <Diggi> Crippy-Boy> when ubuntu is loading the last line is "pbbuttonsd...   failed"   ........then ubuntu starts...some time i can login but also some times i can't caus its total crashing.....last i tryed to restart in the login screen and it started up without the loading screen...then i got the message: error: the file '/dev/pmu/ dosen't exist...  sorry for my bad english.. :-/
[02:06] <arsalan> fyrestrtr: r u still there
[02:08] <manmadha> can any one tell how to get linux tshirts freely........i feel very greatful to ware them.......
[02:08] <cope_oz> manmadha, print your own :)
[02:09] <manmadha> cope_oz, is there any community to supply them?
[02:09] <cope_oz> manmadha, not that i know of
[02:09] <manmadha> cope_oz, ok...thank u
[02:09] <iiiears> I tried tracing a penguin on a TEE - had to stop ..  the darn bird kept squirming too much.
[02:09] <yacek19>  hello, I have problem with authentication in  proftpd. Yesterday I have installed proftpd with mysql authentication on Ubuntu 5.10. Then at night I did dist-upgrade to 6.10.1 dapper. Now authentication doesn't work.
[02:09] <yacek19> ubuntu proftpd[4535]  localhost (localhost[127.0.0.1] ): USER yacek (Login failed): No such user found
[02:10] <cute_bettong> hmm theres nothing in synaptic for ati
[02:10] <iiiears> fglrx ??
[02:10] <iiiears> !ati
[02:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:11] <admin_> the wireless cards found in the ubuntu wiki work for Xubuntu also?
[02:11] <PingunZ> Hey, Can someone take a look at this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22723
[02:12] <Adri2000> admin_: yes probably
[02:12] <bart416> Anybody happens to know how to get a onboard soundcard working
[02:12] <bart416> (nvidia nforce 4 chipset)
[02:13] <Marlun> how can I (from the terminal) see what IP i've got?
[02:13] <iiiears> admin_ - I would guess that the wifi stuff is the same. only the xserver window decorations are different. in xubuntu. not at all sure about the configuration tools used in ther xubuntu gui tho
[02:13] <ctrlbreak> external ip?
[02:15] <iiiears> bart416 - sudo lspci will give you some info about your card. - i wish i coould be more helpful - sry
[02:15] <iiiears> !sound
[02:15] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:16] <cute_bettong> hmm dosen't seem that my ati card is supported
[02:16] <bart416> I assume its this: 0000:00:10.1 0403: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[02:16] <bart416> cute_bettong, what card do you have?
[02:16] <iiiears> cute_bettong - Really? - what model card is it?
[02:16] <AstralJava> Marlun: ifconfig
[02:17] <cute_bettong> 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] 
[02:18] <bart416> the 7200 isn't supported by official drivers
[02:18] <cute_bettong> :(
[02:18] <cute_bettong> darn
[02:18] <bart416> 2D support is completed in the xserver packages
[02:18] <dzoe> Hi
[02:18] <bart416> but you do have 'unofficial' drivers
[02:18] <cute_bettong> so that means i have a card that isen't going to do crap huh
[02:18] <bart416> ATI does link to them :P
[02:18] <cute_bettong> well i want something that is safe for ubuntu
[02:18] <Daniel_GBG> hi
[02:18] <foxpaul> hi all. does anyone know why when i resume from suspended to ram mode, the sound quality is really bad? all sounds are jumpy/scratchy
[02:18] <cute_bettong> not going to botch up my system
[02:18] <Daniel_GBG> how do i use sudo to edit a file?
[02:19] <Daniel_GBG> the file must be edited as root..
[02:19] <Crippy-Boy> sudo nano /file
[02:19] <Crippy-Boy> or sudo gedit /file/
[02:19] <dzoe> There's a bug in the packaging of bluez-utils package, where should I file it? (launchpad suggests the "official bug tracker" but that doesn't seem appropriate for a packaging error)
[02:19] <bart416> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[02:19] <Daniel_GBG> the file is in /ect/
[02:19] <nahoj> serious question: how difficult is it for a "windows-only"-sys admin to install and administrate ubuntu on a school-network? there is about 16 computers for students and 10 for teachers, on top of that we are going to have a separate network for students rooms, connected to internet only. any thoughts of how hard this would be?
[02:19] <bart416> should do the trick
[02:19] <bart416> cute_bettong, ATI links on their website to the 'unofficial' drivers
[02:19] <linopil> !md5
[02:19] <bart416> so you can trust it quite a bit
[02:19] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:19] <Daniel_GBG> but when i type in the file name it can't open the file it opens a blank doc
[02:20] <ctrlbreak> Marlun: ifconfig from command line will give you your local machine ip adress
[02:20] <Crippy-Boy> Daniel_GBG: Are you sure the file exists?
[02:20] <bart416> iiiears, 0000:00:10.1 0403: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[02:20] <levander> When apt-get is downloading packages, what directory does it put them in?
[02:20] <linopil> !blowfish
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blowfish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <Daniel_GBG> yes I can se it if graphical mode
[02:20] <Crippy-Boy> Whats the file name?
[02:20] <linopil> !DES
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DES - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <Daniel_GBG> is there anyway to edit the file as root in graphical mode?
[02:21] <Crippy-Boy> sudo gedit /path/to/file
[02:21] <iiiears> cute_bettong - Have you tried the fglrx drivers for your ati card?  - what errors if any did you see?
[02:21] <Crippy-Boy> Replace gedit with whatever editor you wanna use.
[02:21] <Daniel_GBG> okig
[02:21] <levander> Nobody knows what directory apt-get downloads debs to?
[02:21] <levander> I really need to know right now.
[02:21] <candyman> hi every body
[02:21] <longwave> levander: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:22] <Daniel_GBG> can not open display (null)
[02:22] <levander> longwave: ty!
[02:22] <Crippy-Boy> Daniel_GBG: What file are you trying to open?
[02:22] <Daniel_GBG> a config file for privoxy
[02:22] <cope_oz> besides gftp is there any other ftp client thats any good?
[02:22] <cute_bettong> iiiears, i just used that ati drivers i was told i don't need the fglrx drivers
[02:23] <iiiears> cope_oz - curl or wget???
[02:23] <Crippy-Boy> Ok, well you said you could see it in graphical mode?
[02:23] <cope_oz> iiiears, nah i want something with a gui
[02:23] <bowman> heya. I'm still facing trouble with cups. both root and my own username are members of the lpadmin group, yet I cannot add a printer.
[02:23] <Crippy-Boy> Open a terminal in 'graphical' type sudo gedit. Then open it with gedit.
[02:23] <bart416> Its starting to annoy me i have no sound :'(
[02:24] <Daniel_GBG> is there anyother way to edit the file as root?
[02:24] <levander> If you stop apt-get in the middle of a download with a Ctrl-C, then restart it again at the command line, is that anything to worry about?  I'm worried my package stopped downloading in the middle, then when I restarted, it didn't download it again.
[02:24] <Mortice> levander: Nothing to worry about at all
[02:24] <Crippy-Boy> Daniel_GBG: Just either use sudo or login as root:-/ i reccomend the first option.
[02:24] <Mortice> levander: apt handles that very well
[02:25] <ctrlbreak> aptitude works better
[02:25] <Crippy-Boy> Daniel_GBG: If you're getting the file path and name right it should open fine with which ever editor you want.
[02:25] <Daniel_GBG> oki but I can edit the file..
[02:25] <iiiears> cute_bettong - Okay, I haven't used ati for awhile. - VESA mode will almost certainly work though it won't provide any hardware acceleration./
[02:25] <levander> Mortice: thanks, i'm finally doing my dist-upgrade to dapper and was going to hit that roof if i screwed that up
[02:25] <bart416> Can somebody help me with my onboard soundcard?
[02:25] <Mortice> levander: Heh. I often ctrl-C my apt-get during downloads and then restart it later by issuing the same command
[02:26] <levander> I started the dist-upgrade in a remote window on another machine, ssh'd in.  Decided that was really probably a bad idea because the network software or whatever might get upgraded, and stopped the process and restarted it on the machines console.
[02:26] <levander> Then was worried it didn't redownload the deb I Ctrl-C'd on.
[02:26] <andrea> help me please
[02:26] <andrea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22726
[02:26] <levander> dist-upgrade is so nerve wracking
[02:27] <iiiears> andrea - what was your question?
[02:27] <Daniel_GBG> help.-..
[02:27] <Schalken> is it possible to install xorg 7.1 in dapper as to get stable aiglx?
[02:27] <andrea> i have a problem installing my belkin usb wifi adapter
[02:27] <andrea> look paste
[02:27] <andrea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22726
[02:27] <bart416> http://pastebin.ca/162329
[02:27] <Crippy-Boy> Daniel_GBG: what's the file called, and where is it located?
[02:27] <levander> But, you know, dist-upgrade'ing over ssh has got to be okay, otherwise, how do people dist-upgrade their VPS's?
[02:28] <bart416> iiiears, Uhm about that soundcard: http://pastebin.ca/162329
[02:28] <bart416> :|
[02:28] <Daniel_GBG> etc/privoxy/config
[02:28] <andrea> but this is correct driver!
[02:28] <Crippy-Boy> sudo nano /etc/privoxy/config
[02:28] <Daniel_GBG> it just opens an empty file
[02:28] <levander> Is dist-upgrade'ing over ssh okay? I would think it would have to be, but have never tried or read anything about it.
[02:28] <Crippy-Boy> Are you sure config isnt a directory?
[02:29] <Crippy-Boy> (never used privoxy so im not sure)
[02:29] <Crippy-Boy> And it normally openes an empty file if the file its trying to open doesn't exist.
[02:29] <iiiears> andrea: - erm... um.. i am really new to linux , can i take a guess? - do you have a kernel installed that supports restricted modules. ( ya know non-free closed source propetary stuff.) - i think you need the restricted modules kernel. -p remember just guessing okay,
[02:29] <Daniel_GBG> nope its the file
[02:29] <Mortice> levander: i can't imagine that it wouldn't be. Even if it kills your connection for some reason, you can always reconnect.
[02:30] <Daniel_GBG> is there any other way to edit it
[02:30] <longwave> levander: yes, it should be fine. though if openssh-server is upgraded, open a new ssh connection while the original one is still open, just to ensure you can still connect.
[02:30] <andrea> ok
[02:30] <andrea> thank you
[02:30] <bart416> just activate multiverse or universe and you should be capable of getting the right kernel modules, even if they are restricted
[02:31] <Crippy-Boy> Daniel_GBG: Well i have no idea why you cant open it, I just installed it and it works fine.
[02:31] <_mason> You know the google search box on the right of the toolbar in firefox, has anyone made or know of an Wiki.Ubunut.com search add-on?
[02:31] <bart416> Somebody?
[02:31] <levander> longwave: what good does it do to leave the 'original one' open?  When openssh-server is upgraded, won't it kill sshd, and you lose that connection anyway?
[02:32] <bart416> http://pastebin.ca/162329
[02:32] <levander> is there an ubuntu server channel?
[02:32] <longwave> levander: existing ssh sessions will stay open (otherwise your dist-upgrade process would be orphaned and any output would be lost)
[02:32] <Daniel_GBG> oki
[02:32] <levander> longwave: being orphaned is what i'm afraid of, how do you know it won't?  it's documented somewhere?
[02:33] <longwave> levander: i've done it before and it's fine. when you open an ssh connection, the ssh server forks off a child process that won't be killed by the upgrade. the parent gets killed off and replaced by the new version, but any children are left running.
[02:34] <levander> longwave: cool, thanks
[02:34] <chell> hello
[02:34] <levander> longwave: i've got a vps i'm setting up next week, wanted to make sure, thanks again
[02:35] <longwave> levander: yeah, if it didn't work, there would be no easy way of remotely upgrading boxes - debian is so widely used that a feature like that is important when upgrading, and this has carried over to ubuntu
[02:35] <choongii> anyone know of a runlevel config editor like bum, but for cli?
[02:35] <compengi> what is totem?
[02:35] <choongii> sysv-rc-conf comes close, but it doesnt allow you to configure sequences
[02:36] <longwave> choongii: update-rc.d is the standard tool to edit the /etc/rcX.d links
[02:37] <iiiears> compengi - totem is the media player used. - psstt - grab vlc or gvlc videolan player - works great less fuss. - even mplayer or xmms is easier to use
[02:37] <Daniel_GBG> how do I save the file in nano
[02:37] <longwave> Daniel_GBG: ctrl+O is "WriteOut", which is the same as save
[02:37] <choongii> longwave, thanks, but I'm looking for something that's easier to use
[02:37] <Crippy-Boy> Ctrl + X itll ask you if you wanna save. or use Ctrl + O.
[02:37] <Daniel_GBG> oki and exit?
[02:37] <Crippy-Boy> uh huh
[02:38] <choongii> it's fine for just adding something to defaults, but defining a sequence is a pain
[02:38] <choongii> as I have to cd to all the runlevel dirs and ls the contents to see the existing sequence
[02:38] <compengi> iiiears, then why when i want to check for updates in update manager i get something like run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in terminal to continue and in the box i have "totem"
[02:38] <choongii> I just wanna be able to say like: ok add 'bla' to runlevel 3, and start it after X but before Y
[02:39] <Daniel_GBG> how do i exit nano
[02:39] <Crippy-Boy> Ctrl + X
[02:39] <Daniel_GBG> and how do a restart a progrm
[02:39] <longwave> choongii: hrm, i haven't seen anything like that, i just use ls and update-rc.d. how often do you need to add new services to rc.d anyway? :)
[02:39] <choongii> well, that's true
[02:40] <Daniel_GBG> i have to restart privoxy
[02:40] <Schalken> so is edgy usable on the desktop yet?
[02:40] <longwave> Daniel_GBG: try "sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy restart"
[02:40] <Daniel_GBG> thanks
[02:41] <choongii> still the dirtyhack-ish feeling kinda annoys me. well, thanks anyways
[02:41] <choongii> I'll just ls then
[02:41] <iiiears> compengi - hm - Is it just asking you to ensure you have the most update system? - what happenes if you just bring a terminal window and  "apt-get install <application you want> (i admit i must be missing your question)
[02:41] <Crippy-Boy> choongii: Whats wrong with dirty hacks? :P
[02:41] <Dandre> Hello all,
[02:42] <iiiears> Good Mormning Dandri
[02:42] <Dandre> I am looking for some screen capture but only on a part of the screen and not the whole screen. Is there any solution?
[02:42] <jambrong> kok sepi?
[02:43] <choongii> Crippy-Boy, they're dirty
[02:43] <compengi> iiiears, i runned the update manager to check for updates but it told me to run the script i told you because something dealing with totem
[02:43] <nahoj> hmm.. I can't boot directly from the Hard Drive. I have to use the ubuntu-cd and choose "Boot from first hard disk! what to do??
[02:43] <ctrlbreaktr> install imagemagick
[02:43] <choongii> makes maintenance annoying in the long run
[02:44] <iiiears> Dandre - ALT+PrntScrn  - doesn't do it for you? - what app do you need screenshots of?
[02:44] <jambrong> daes anybody knows how to install bluetooth driver on ubuntu?
[02:44] <arsalan> can any one give me synatax of adding in profile - more than one paths in an environment variable like CLASSPATH, I have tried  CLASSPATH={first_path}:{second_path}
[02:45] <fyrestrtr> arsalan: export CLASSPATH=/foo/some/where:/foo/some/where/else:$CLASSPATH
[02:45] <don_jr> I have installed kubuntu-desktop, it will not change the screen resolution.  I slide the slider and it says it's changing it, but the acctual desktop never changes.  Any ideas?
[02:46] <arsalan> fyrestrtr: thanx for replying, my previous problem is also solved now :)
[02:47] <pk213432> don_jr: I haven't tried hard, but I haven't got that working - so I just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove the resolutions I don't want.
[02:47] <zloi_diman>     ? :)
[02:47] <jambrong> how to installing bluetooth driver?
[02:47] <compengi> zloi_diman, ya
[02:47] <Dandre> iiiears, I will try thanks
[02:47] <hayden> how can i use ubuntu as a gateway (router) and forward ports from an external port to a different internal port on a computer on the lan?
[02:47] <don_jr> pk213432 I'll have to try that.  gnome works just fine with it.
[02:48] <Diggi> hmm update in my error... "/dev/pmu/" doesnt exist :S thats why pbbuttonsd faild in the start up...annyone that know why or what's worng? (using a mac g3)
[02:48] <Chippy> they wrote an article about this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_0.999..._equals_1
[02:48] <Hendrik12> Hello is their someone who cna help me?
[02:48] <pk213432> don_jr: I'm sure there is a 'proper way'
[02:48] <pk213432> hayden: i do it the geeky way, using iptables -t nat
[02:49] <Hendrik12> Is their someone who can help me
[02:49] <hayden> pk213432: do you know of a howto or something i can read about it?
[02:49] <Crippy-Boy> Hendrik12: Just ask the question
[02:49] <pk213432> hayden: e.g. iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p udp --dport 41512 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.157
[02:49] <pk213432> hayden: try googling for iptables howto
[02:49] <hayden> pk213432: ok thanks alot
[02:50] <Dandre> I'd like draw a box instead of select an activ window
[02:50] <pk213432> hayden: i'm sure there is an easier way though
[02:50] <iiiears> hayden - firestarter firewall or squid proxy might be worth a look. - apologies for not knowing more about them.
[02:51] <Chippy> i'm quite curious about edgy. is there any chance to downgrade back to dapper if i upgrade to edgy?
[02:51] <jambrong> ok thank you all, i'll find help else where...
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> Chippy: not easy to do that.
[02:51] <pk213432> hayden: i just tried searching in synaptic for "iptable" and there are a bunch of htings that claim to be helpful - e.g. ferm
[02:51] <Crippy-Boy> Chippy: im not too sure, why not try the live-cd?
[02:51] <pk213432> hayden: do you know how to use synaptic?
[02:51] <hayden> iiiears: thanks anyway, the main thing i want is to be able to port say 80 and 8080 to two different local computers
[02:51] <Chippy> Crippy-Boy, there's a livecd?! :)
[02:52] <pk213432> chippy: downgrading is really not doable
[02:52] <Crippy-Boy> Chippy: Well i hope so, if not i dont know what i was using yesterday :P
[02:52] <hayden> pk213432: yea, i can use apt-get (i've only got a terminal atm)
[02:52] <pk213432> hayden: try apt-cache search iptables
[02:52] <longwave> hayden: custom iptables rules is the easiest way to go here if you are comfortable with using the cli. you can route packets from pretty much anywhere to pretty much anywhere else with the right rules :)
[02:52] <pk213432> hayden: then apt-cache show <packagename>
[02:52] <Chippy> Crippy-Boy, is it different from dapper to such extent it would be interesting to try it?
[02:52] <ctrlbreaktr> Dandre it is what you looking for
[02:52] <quiet> is there a way to change the lag time for autohide panels to pop up?
[02:53] <hayden> longwave, pk213432 ok thanks
[02:53] <pk213432> hayden: try going from my example above
[02:53] <ctrlbreaktr> Dandre install imagemagick and use the script that my friend wroted
[02:53] <renesis> routine floodbot test NO ONE PANIC
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[02:53] <longwave> !ops
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[02:53] <kenas> hi
[02:53] <Crippy-Boy> Chippy: I didnt really spend much time in it, Most of the time was spent in terminal
[02:54] <kenas> can anyone help me ? i cannot upgrade my APT, repositories dont work
[02:54] <compengi> where can i get radeon 9000 driver for ubuntu?
[02:54] <iiiears> !repositories
[02:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> compengi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[02:55] <Crippy-Boy> Chippy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current
[02:55] <iiiears> !easysource
[02:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:55] <Chippy> Crippy-Boy, thank you very much ^_^
[02:55] <Crippy-Boy> Chippy: no probs :-)
[02:55] <kenas> !repositories
[02:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:56] <RudyValencia> How do you install Ubuntu Dapper as a basic "server" (ie without the GUI)?
[02:56] <Crippy-Boy> Chippy: Me and another person had problems booting it, If it halts with a blinking cursor half way through start up, Press Alt + F3 then Alt + F1 and it should boot ok
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> RudyValencia: from the alternate install cd, type 'server' at the boot: prompt
[02:56] <RudyValencia> I downloaded the "standard" CD :(
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> ah, from there, you can't :)
[02:57] <compengi> fyrestrtr, there is no radeon
[02:57] <don_jr> RudyValencia get the 'alternate cd'  I had to get it to do a text based install and it worked just fine where the live cd wouldn't
[02:57] <RudyValencia> About how big is the alternate CD?
[02:57] <quiet> same size
[02:57] <Chippy> Crippy-Boy, so edgy is like the R&D lab of ubuntu?
[02:57] <quiet> there is a server only cd though, i believe
[02:57] <infidel> anyone have lotus notes running on ubuntu? second question can i apt-get wine stuff?
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> second question: You can apt-get wine, but not Windows programs.
[03:00] <don_jr> What is the differenct between apt-get and aptitude?
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> nothing, just different frontends.
[03:00] <yugge> Hey guys, what is the mount command for mounting .img files?
[03:00] <MikeyMike> does gimp have an irc channel?
[03:00] <don_jr> would there be a reason you would choose one over another
[03:00] <MikeyMike> totally off topic i know
[03:00] <infidel> fyrestrtr: i have the windows version of notes and i have wine install but i need wine-utils
[03:00] <MikeyMike> but maybe one of you will know
[03:00] <iiiears> infidel - aptitude is better at resolving dependency problems and keeps better records for removing apps
[03:01] <ctrlbreaktr> aptitude cares for the other packages needed for that package. when u uninstall the program aptitude deletes unneeded packages but apt-get doesnt
[03:01] <Seveas> iiiears, that is no longer truein edgy
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> compengi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> infidel: lotes notes client, or server? (please say client)
[03:01] <kenas> i cannot update aptitude
[03:01] <iiiears> Good Morning Seveas! - Thank you for the tip.
[03:02] <infidel> fyrestrtr: client
[03:03] <pip> Hello,how to add an icon in application-->sound&video ?
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> infidel: you know there is a native linux client for lotus notes, right?
[03:03] <infidel> fyrestrtr: yeah but i can't find a download for it
[03:04] <kingdong> does anyone know an easy way to log into a remote x server in a window inside my regular x session?
[03:04] <AfterDeath> vnc?
[03:04] <iiiears> pip - alacarte menu editor ?   right click on your app and select a new icon.
[03:05] <Mortice> kingdong: depends on the protocol. VNC, NX, XDMCP...?
[03:05] <jcml_uk> xnest+xdmcp?
[03:05] <AfterDeath> kingdong: take a look at vnc; I'm fairly sure thats what you're looking for
[03:05] <kingdong> i think it's probably xdmcp, my university told me to use something called x-session for windows
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> infidel: this might help > http://www.nsftools.com/NL7/
[03:06] <Mortice> kingdong: that's xdmcp, almost certainly.
[03:06] <jcml_uk> kingdong: that sounds right.
[03:06] <kingdong> xnest sounds like the right thng, thanks Mortice and jcml_uk =D
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> infidel: its called 'IBM Worspace Managed Client' -- maybe that's why you can't find it :)
[03:07] <Mortice> kingdong: yea, that's the way to do it.
[03:07] <Mortice> kingdong: let us know if you need any help with it
[03:07] <phichipsi> hi, is there any recording softrware that can burn audio cds out of mp3 files? i mean you have a gui and drop mp3 files in there and they  are converted to wav and then burned? i tried k3b and gnomebaker. both fail.
[03:07] <infidel> fyrestrtr: ok thanks
[03:07] <Mortice> !info k3b
[03:07] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[03:07] <kingdong> thanks a bunch mortice i will ;)
[03:08] <Mortice> oh, sorry phichipsi. i didn't see that you said k3b failed.
[03:08] <Mortice> phichipsi: how does it fail?
[03:08] <phichipsi> Mortice, it says my tracks are in a unsupported file format
[03:08] <Mortice> phichipsi: do you have mp3 support installed?
[03:08] <iiiears> cdrecord is the foundation for k3b and gnomebaker ubuntu was nice enought to include cd burning with a simple right click - cool eh?
[03:09] <Mortice> !mp3
[03:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:09] <Nilvio> if someone have something advice how i can Script Mouse clicking and moving plz tell me !
[03:09] <phichipsi> Mortice, well there is a specifiv package for that?
[03:09] <sorush4> hi I had kubuntu then I installed ubuntu-desktop , now I have loged into my gnome session but my desktop is not loading fully.. first there are a few flashes of the top and butoom task bars and that is it nothing else loads what can I do?
[03:09] <Mortice> phichipsi: the pages for setting up mp3 support are all there in the message I made ubotu send.
[03:10] <phichipsi> Mortice, ok i'll take a look, but its strange as i can listen to mp3 withour any problems ...
[03:11] <Mortice> phichipsi: oh. ok
[03:11] <Mortice> phichipsi: hmm. seems you do have mp3 support enabled
[03:12] <canine_kouji> ewww, mp3s
[03:12] <iiiears> sorush - does sudo dpkg-reconfigure reconfigure-xorg    fix it? if it is a need to set the display manager from kdm - kubuntu  to gdm for gnome. i don't know how to do that.
[03:12] <santa99> hi
[03:12] <santa99> i have a problem with turboprint
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> szevasztok
[03:13] <santa99> i have installed turboprint right before and added a keyfile but there is still this turboprint logo
[03:13] <tazz> is ubuntu - the linux for human beings?
[03:13] <sorush4> iiiears: that is not the case really I think, becuase the gnome desktop is loaded halfway I don't know why kdm is working fine but I can change to gdm if i have to ..
[03:13] <Mortice> phichipsi: vvv
[03:13] <phichipsi> Mortice, i have it enabled and it doesn't work?
[03:13] <tazz> or ubuntu - the Gnu/Linux for human beings?
[03:13] <Mortice> !info libk3b2-mp3
[03:13] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[03:13] <santa99> !turboprint
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turboprint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <phichipsi> Mortice, on the pages you sent me there is a way to set it up for gnome-baker, i'll try
[03:14] <Mortice> phichipsi: i'd imagine there's an equivalent package for gnomebaker
[03:14] <phichipsi> Mortice, ahh okay!
[03:14] <phichipsi> Mortice, thanks a lot, i'll give both a try
[03:14] <Crippy-Boy> tazz: Its pretty pointless even discussing that.
[03:14] <martinthelion> Hello
[03:14] <martinthelion> I'm new here
[03:15] <Mortice> phichipsi: no problem. Sorry for misunderstanding you - I hadn't realised that it worked like this in ubuntu.
[03:15] <tazz> Crippy-Boy, just asking about the slogan
[03:15] <TheGateKeeper> what's the easiest way to back your system, tar it then save that tar to DVD?
[03:15] <Crippy-Boy> tazz: Well the slogan is 'linux for human beings'
[03:15] <tazz> hmm....
[03:16] <tazz> interesting
[03:16] <iiiears> sorush - could it be that an unsupported for gnome  kde desktop theme is being used to start gnome
[03:16] <martinthelion> Any Mac users here?
[03:17] <phichipsi> Mortice, thats okay. now we both learned about this issue. thats the beauty :)
[03:17] <jcml_uk> martinthelion: feel free just to ask the specific question you're looking for help with
[03:17] <Crippy-Boy> martinthelion: kinda, I own a mac and have ubuntu installed, dont use it much though
[03:17] <Mortice> phichipsi: indeed. :)
[03:17] <iiiears> TheGateKeeper - Mondo rescue is gre-eat!
[03:18] <martinthelion> well i got ubuntu installed on my ibook but it has its ends on heat problems
[03:18] <infidel> fyrestrtr: the only thing i found was a tour of notes
[03:18] <TheGateKeeper> iiiears: is that what you use?
[03:18] <iiiears> Yeppers!
[03:18] <yuhuhuh> Hello!!!!
[03:19] <yuhuhuh> I have a question, really simple and I didnt find any answer on the net
[03:19] <Crippy-Boy> martinthelion: Sorry, all i can suggest is that its something to do with acpi? but i dont have an ibook so i cant say
[03:19] <dalfz> time to update kile package?
[03:20] <CyberLokO> HOla a todos los ubuntistas
[03:20] <iiiears> Welcome!
[03:20] <yuhuhuh> hola
[03:20] <iiiears> !ubuntu-es
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <iiiears> We the spanish spoken nin this channel is muy peor.
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[03:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:23] <TheGateKeeper> iiiears: use it from the cli? sudo mondo ??
[03:24] <iiiears> There are a bunch of switches. - you can make it jump through hoops
[03:24] <RogerRabb> hey.. is there a way to exclude a file when trying to mirror a site in wget? eg I want everything on www.blah.com but www.blah.com/blah.php and www.blah.com/blah/ I can use --exclude-directories to ignore /blah.. but how about blah.php ?
[03:26] <reazon> ?
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I would think you would need to individually exclude  blah.php or at least pull a list of  blah.php from a file and script it.
[03:26] <RogerRabb> individually exclude?
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> If there were multiple's
[03:29] <fenderfreek> Anyone know how Ubuntu handles changing screen brightness on a laptop? It changes properly per my settings when I switch from battery to AC, but I want to manually change it somehow.
[03:29] <RogerRabb> I'm just not sure even how to exclude a file from a recursive wget
[03:30] <RogerRabb> looking over the help it mentions --exclude-directories..
[03:30] <iiiears> RogerRabbit - exclude it by file extension? -A.php?   wget -r -l1 -H -t1 -nd -N -np -A.mp3,.ogg -erobots=off http://webjay.org/by/tomwsmf/boingboingfoundsounds -P boingboing/    http://webjay.org/by/tomwsmf/boingboingfoundsounds
[03:30] <RogerRabb> oh
[03:30] <RogerRabb> that would be very helpful actually
[03:30] <RogerRabb> hmm
[03:31] <RogerRabb> thanks that'll do for now I guess
[03:31] <iiiears> RogerRabbit - Cool..
[03:31] <TheGateKeeper> iiiears: how do you start mondo I have just installed it using synaptic type mondo or mondoacrchieve give me 'command not found'??
[03:31] <STORMCHAS3R> what is better to use, smart or synaptic pm?
[03:32] <RogerRabb> thanks iiiears, I appreciate it :)
[03:32] <cope_oz> TheGateKeeper, it should be in your menu (applications --> programming)
[03:33] <TheGateKeeper> cope_oz: it isn't I am using KDE, does that make a difference, do I have log out then log back in?
[03:33] <RogerRabb> oh umm iiiears -A.php in this case downloads the file then removes it..
[03:33] <fenderfreek> Once more, in case anyone who just joined has anything: Anyone who one know how Ubuntu handles changing screen brightness on a laptop? It changes properly per my settings when I switch from battery to AC, but I want to manually change it somehow.
[03:36] <RogerRabb> oh it's -R to exclude by file extension
[03:36] <TheGateKeeper> cope_oz: got it going from the cli :-)
[03:37] <STORMCHAS3R> !smart
[03:37] <orion> Hey all.
[03:37] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[03:37] <opexoc> Why the CUPS system can't accept root login and root password? Who login and who password I should write?
[03:38] <orion> I am trying to install ubuntu remotely. I've debootstrapped and installed openssh, but when I try to login to root (via terminal), it won't let me in.
[03:38] <quiet> opexoc, your own.
[03:38] <orion> One thing that I noticed is that the password is hashed in /etc/passwd, rather than /etc/shadow.
[03:38] <quiet> opexoc, just make sure you are a member of the cups group
[03:38] <orion> Would anyone know why this is happening?
[03:38] <ChaosFan> orion: maybe ssh is configured to not allow remote login as root
[03:39] <opexoc> quiet: How can I do that?
[03:39] <orion> ChaosFan, No. Like I said, I am trying to login via a terminal, not SSH.
[03:39] <quiet> opexoc, look at /etc/group??
[03:39] <ChaosFan> orion: oh, sorry misunderstood you
[03:39] <orion> Yup. No problem.
[03:41] <orion> So does anyone know what's wrong?
[03:41] <ChaosFan> orion: then... sure you have set the root password?
[03:42] <orion> ChaosFan, Yup. I booted to the "normal" Ubuntu partition, mounted, chrooted, and changed it with passwd.
[03:42] <ChaosFan> and that your tty's are stated in /etc/securetty?
[03:42] <opexoc> quiet: There is not such group.
[03:43] <rdhrd138> I've mounted my WIndows Partition in Ubuntu with 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 ' but I have to do it everyime I boot my computer, anyone know a way for it to do it automatically?
[03:43] <ChaosFan> rdhrd138: write it to /etc/fstab
[03:43] <ChaosFan> there are enough lines you can easily adopt one
[03:43] <rdhrd138> Even though it's a sudo command, it will still work?
[03:43] <ChaosFan> yes
[03:43] <rdhrd138> Okay, thanks.
[03:44] <ChaosFan> it will be mounted with the rest of your partitions, e.g. /
[03:44] <orion> # Standard consoles
[03:44] <orion> tty1
[03:44] <orion> tty2
[03:44] <orion> tty3
[03:44] <orion> [...] 
[03:44] <ChaosFan> hm, ok, they seem to be there...
[03:44] <ChaosFan> then i've got no idea...
[03:44] <iiiears> ChaosFan - How to you force ubuntu to reread fstab?
[03:44] <rdhrd138> Does it matter where I put that line in /etc/fstab?
[03:44] <Mortice> iiiears: sudo mount -a
[03:44] <ChaosFan> iiiears: mount -a mounts everything thats stated in fstab and not already mounted
[03:45] <ChaosFan> rdhrd138: not really.. i always append it to the end if i add something, but i don't think it matters
[03:45] <opexoc> quiet: So what should I do now? Do add this group?
[03:45] <rdhrd138> Okay
[03:46] <pip> how to add an icon to application memu when I have istalled a programme
[03:50] <QmQ> hi everyone. I have this odd problem with 6.06 *buntus - after downloading and burning the cd I can't install the system due to a VERY slow cd reading bug or something
[03:50] <kenas> hi i am trying to do this -------> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`     but    it gives me this error  -----> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[03:50] <orion> ChaosFan,
[03:50] <QmQ> The CD's read, it would seem, in 'bits' and it takes about 45 minutes to even run the gui
[03:50] <orion> ChaosFan, I got it to work. eth0 won't come up though.
[03:51] <ChaosFan> orion: what caused it?
[03:52] <WeaZeLb0y> Does anyone here use Eclipse on Ubuntu? I'm having a problem with not being able to scroll on the auto-complete menu...anyone else experiencing the same?
[03:52] <TheGateKeeper> hat to say it but mondo is rubbish won't work, just get some fatal erro
[03:52] <TheGateKeeper> error*
[03:52] <tourach> use vim :)
[03:53] <orion> ChaosFan, Was my fault. I was chrooted to the environment in my /home folder, not the one on /dev/sda4
[03:53] <ChaosFan> hm, ok, that for sure does explain it ;)
[03:54] <kenas> hi i am trying to do this -------> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`     but    it gives me this error  -----> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[03:55] <orion> ChaosFan, So now when I boot, eth0 doesn't come up automatically.
[03:56] <orion> I need to ifconfig it manually. But when I run dhclient, it gets the correct IP address, but the IP address doesn't show up in ifconfig.
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> just installed mondo found it doesn't work so want to remove it, synaptic is only showing mondo for removal not all the dependencies it dragged in, how can I get rid of them too?
[03:57] <GomezDen> The command for listing the contants of a tar file is 'tar -t <file>'
[03:57] <Nookie^> Hi! i have reinstalled ubuntu and installed also alot of apps with automatix.. but now when trying to watch movie all movies are messed up. i mean the picture is looking aweful... Any who can help out?
[03:57] <kOpter> Hello, I've got the strangest problem. Sometimes (usually on cold boot) my system boots without chipset drivers.
[03:57] <GomezDen> But it just sits there and doesnt do anything any ideas?
[03:58] <yugge> I'm installing ubuntu on my gf's laptop, but right after x sets up in the installer, it turns black with two white dots
[03:58] <opexoc> What shell I do if the CUPS system can't accept my login and password... ? In /etc/group I don't see any group called CUPS.
[03:58] <kOpter> On a good boot agpgart, pci_hotplug and de chipset drivers get started.. on a bad boot just some ACPI stuff
[03:58] <yugge> in alternate *
[03:59] <ChaosFan> orion: /etc/network/interfaces
[04:00] <orion> ChaosFan, Yup. auto eth0 and all that other jazz.
[04:00] <ChaosFan> hm, then it _should_ come up...
[04:00] <ChaosFan> perhaps no corresponding init-script?
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Nookie^: Please ask in Automatix.. there is a reason we dont recommend it in here
[04:01] <Nookie^> Jack_Sparrow: okej m8... sorry and thanx
[04:01] <RudyValencia> While installing Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy" on my server I'm getting "The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/debootstrap.log for details." What's going on?
[04:01] <Nookie^> Mortice: no  i didnt... just new reinstalled version
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Nookie^: np we like to help people
[04:02] <Nookie^> Jack_Sparrow: hehe yeah i know =)
[04:02] <sorush20> my gnome session will not load fully what can I do..
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Nookie^:   We would be happy to help you install those things manually any time
[04:02] <orion> ChaosFan, Perhaps. /dev/sda4 == hd0,3 to grub right?
[04:02] <RudyValencia> I'm installing Ubuntu 5.10 from a ShipIt CD.
[04:03] <TheGateKeeper> what's the easiest way to back your system up to dvd?
[04:04] <Nookie^> Jack_Sparrow: thanx dude... Nice to hear that
[04:04] <sorush20> my gnome session will not load fully what can I do..
[04:04] <bartmon> Howdy. Can anyone tell me where I can place scripts I want to execute at boot?
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGateKeeper:  I stuff it into a tar and burn one file...
[04:04] <Mortice> sorush20: have you checked .Xsession-errors in your home directory?
[04:04] <TheGateKeeper> Jack_Sparrow: it is ok if that file is over 2Gb ?
[04:05] <sorush20> Mortice: where is that?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGateKeeper: Should be ok up to 4 I thought,.. let me read that page again
[04:06] <lucien> re
[04:06] <sorush20> Mortice: got it
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > jack_sparrow
[04:06] <chell> !backup
[04:06] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:06] <snpz> hi everybody
[04:07] <kaolti> is there a way to share internet connection on ubuntu with windows xp?
[04:07] <sorush20> Mortice: what am I looking for
[04:07] <snpz> does anyone has any experiance with Broadcast 4311 wifi card?
[04:07] <erUSUL> !firestarter > kaolti
[04:07] <kaolti> erusul?
[04:07] <TheGateKeeper> Jack_Sparrow: you are telling me the same as everyone else so that's what I am going to do :-)
[04:08] <lucien> j'ai un probleme avec la touche alt gr
[04:08] <lucien> elle ne fonctionne plus
[04:08] <Mortice> sorush20: any errors that relate to gnome.ear in mind that that file only shows errors from the current Xsession, so you want to check it while your user is trying to log into a gnome session.
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[04:08] <lucien> mais ce n'est pas mecanique
[04:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:08] <bartmon> !firestarter
[04:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[04:08] <kaolti> erusul thanks
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGateKeeper: Start with a tar...  then split it down to below 2 gigs
[04:08] <bartmon> !scripting
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <erUSUL> kaolti: no problem
[04:09] <Mortice> sorush20: you can do that by attempting to log into gnome, then hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1, logging in as that user at the terminal and opening the .Xsession-errors file.
[04:09] <pk213432> bartmon: /etc/init.d
[04:09] <pk213432> bartmon: then run update-rc.d
[04:09] <bartmon> pk213432: I just create a symlink in there to my script? been there, don that.
[04:09] <bartmon> Aha, that might do it. Thanks!
[04:09] <TheGateKeeper> Jack_Sparrow: how do you split it?
[04:10] <pk213432> bartmon: typically put the script in /etc/init.d
[04:10] <fulat2k> hello?
[04:10] <pk213432> bartmon: then use update-rc.d to create symlinks
[04:10] <sorush20> Mortice: how can I get access to this file when I can't even log into gnome/
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> One sec, I think I found a script that tars and splits
[04:10] <Marlun> Is it possible to download a file from a server you've connected to through ssh (putty)?
[04:10] <Mortice> sorush20: you can do "cat .Xsession-errors" from the console
[04:10] <pk213432> marlun: there is a program called pscp you can download from the putty webpage
[04:11] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've just replaced my geforce ti4200 with a gf2mx.  and things are really blurry.  anyone knows if i need to do any reconfig?
[04:11] <Marlun> pk213432: thanks!
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGateKeeper: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174713 is what I think you are looking for..
[04:11] <bartmon> pk213432: All these scripts execute on boot?
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> fulat2k: Reconfigure for new hardware or if X fails run. In terminal : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <fulat2k> Jack_Sparrow: it's running fine.  in fact i'm postign from it right now.  it's just that the text seems rather blurry.
[04:12] <pk213432> bartmon: the scripts that are symlinked from /etc/rcX.d/ execute at boot, where X is your runlevel.  You are probably at runlevel 2.
[04:12] <sorush20> Mortice: so I should just log into gnome as normal , then since the desktop doesn't show anything at all how do load a console /
[04:13] <bartmon> OK, thanks
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> fulat2k: Are both cards the same chipset?
[04:13] <pk213432> bartmon: creating those symlinks is the job of the update-rc.d script
[04:13] <Mortice> sorush20: i told you a second ago, but you probably missed it. Try to log in to gnome as normal. While it's failing to load, hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 which will take you to a terminal, where you can log in and view the file.
[04:13] <bartmon> pk213432: So how do I tell on which runlevel i want my script to start?
[04:14] <RudyValencia> So Ubuntu is basically Linux for those who are new to Linux?
[04:14] <Bicchi> What is the: "proposed repository" in my sources.list file. Like what kind of packages does it pulls?
[04:14] <fulat2k> fulat2k: not the same.  the old one is a geforce4 and the current one is a geforce2.
[04:14] <pk213432> bartmon: i suggest not worrying - just run update-rc.d <ScriptName> defaults
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> RudyValencia: YEs the heart of Ubuntu is Linux
[04:14] <pk213432> bartmn: it'll do the righ tthing
[04:14] <fulat2k> Jack_Sparrow: oops... that was for u
[04:14] <sorush20> Mortice: thanks
[04:15] <bartmon> pk213432: I need to run my script before X starts.
[04:15] <pk213432> rudyvalencia: i've been using linux for a long time, and i use ubuntu.  Ubuntu is just the best Linux for the desktop available right now.
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> fulat2k: Did you read the page on nvidia drivers?
[04:15] <RudyValencia> What would you consider the "target audience" of Ubuntu?
[04:15] <Mortice> pk213432: seconded.
[04:15] <pk213432> bartmon: type "man update-rc.d" for details on how to do that
[04:16] <bartmon> I'm reading it just now, thanks again
[04:16] <CRoach> not really a linux question but does 566mhz ddr2 work in and mob that supports 800mhz ddr2?
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> RudyValencia: anyone that wants a soild stable os that is far safer than XP
[04:16] <pk213432> bartmon: first find the name of your display manager link - it'll have a two digit number - make your script have a lower number.
[04:16] <TheGateKeeper> Jack_Sparrow: thanx :-)
[04:16] <pk213432> croach: i'd bet so
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGateKeeper: that what you needed?
[04:16] <RudyValencia> CRoach, depends on the speed of your processor.
[04:16] <fulat2k> Jack_Sparrow: which page r u referring to?  i did refer to the forum post to install the nvidia drivers
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[04:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:17] <alxandra_> tha packags i m trying to install with apt-get tries to remove linux, linux-image and restricted modules. why does this happen? is it normal?
[04:17] <sholden> Has anyone else experienced problems with their amarok music collection after applying the latest upgrade to 1.4.2?  I keep getting error messages about my taglibs.
[04:17] <TheGateKeeper> Jack_Sparrow: think so thanx :-)
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> TheGateKeeper: np
[04:17] <CRoach> hmm 4400 x2 would be the cpu .... would a 667mhzddr2 then work cause the 800 is just way too expensive
[04:17] <Marlun> pk213432: hmmm can't figure out how to use pscp. =/
[04:17] <pk213432> alxandra_: does it want to install a newer version of those things?
[04:17] <pk213432> marlun: there is a friendly pscp client out there somewhere... i'll just google for you...
[04:18] <alxandra_> no i doesnt pk213432. it seem that i will have a problem if i continue installing them
[04:18] <silvestre> helo..
[04:18] <nikin> can anyone suggest a good c++ IDE for Linux?
[04:18] <snpz> hi
[04:19] <Riddell> nikin: kdevelop
[04:19] <silvestre> help for kernel.
[04:19] <snpz> anjuta?
[04:19] <silvestre> help me
[04:19] <nikin> snpz: anjuta does not seem any good to me... but its mybe my foult
[04:19] <snpz> silvestre, tell us the problem
[04:19] <nena> ola
[04:20] <nena> hello
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > silvestre
[04:20] <TheGateKeeper> back in a bit
[04:20] <snpz> nikin, then try here sugested kdevelop
[04:20] <Dimensions> hey guys is there any built-in software or utility in ubuntu that i can use to monitor system memory consumption
[04:20] <nikin> apt-get install kdevelop does not seem to work
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: there might be something in the gdesklets collection
[04:21] <erUSUL> Dimensions: free, top
[04:21] <snpz> apt-cache search kdevelope
[04:21] <Dimensions> erUSUL:  free top ?
[04:21] <finalbeta> commands...
[04:21] <pk213432> marlun: try linuxmafia.com/ssh/win32.html
[04:21] <pk213432> marlun: i haven't used it myself
[04:21] <erUSUL> Dimensions: to caommands to monitor ram usage
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> silvestre: Please ask your question in as much detail as possible
[04:21] <snpz> Dimensions, top
[04:21] <Marlun> pk213432: I found a great doc which explained it, thanks anyway :)
[04:21] <bartmon> System Monitor in gnome as a window and as a gdesklet
[04:21] <snpz> type top in console
[04:21] <erUSUL> Dimensions: also vmstat and others
[04:22] <nikin> snpz: nothing found
[04:22] <Dimensions> isn't there any graphical tool for it ?
[04:22] <Dimensions> that i can check memory status and cpu consumption with
[04:22] <silvestre> my ubuntu do not starter i see erro-- panic kenrnel
[04:22] <snpz> nikin, hmm, probably there is some repositories missing
[04:23] <nikin> i have about 35 repos
[04:23] <silvestre> not suncing:VFS: unable to nount root fs UNK
[04:23] <pk213432> silvestre, what does it say a few lines above that?
[04:23] <bartmon> Dimension: In Gnome open up System>Administration>System Monitor and go to the resources tab
[04:23] <[jb] > how do i check the DISPLAY environment variable?
[04:23] <pk213432> silvestre, and above that?
[04:23] <pk213432> [jb] , in a console type export
[04:23] <silvestre> plese
[04:24] <erUSUL> Dimensions: there a few. conky, gtkrmll, gdesklets...... system monitor for the panels etc
[04:24] <snpz> nikin, try kdevelop3
[04:24] <Lemino> I need a tip for digital video editing software. is KINO the primary choice or are there any other?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> silvestre: What is your native language...?
[04:24] <silvestre> i not
[04:24] <silvestre> i am speakr portugues
[04:25] <ubuntu> how do i fix grub or any boot loader for that matter?
[04:25] <pk213432> ubuntu, what is wrong with it?
[04:25] <Petaris> Hello
[04:25] <RudyValencia> I've installed ubuntu on my server and I can't find where to put my vhosts info for apache
[04:25] <RudyValencia> (version 6.10)
[04:25] <nikin> snpz: i have found it, in the add/remove programs ... stuff :D
[04:26] <snpz> ;)
[04:26] <silvestre> Jack_ Sparrow do you espeker portugues?
[04:26] <pk213432> ubuntu, e.g. does the menu appear?
[04:26] <ubuntu> i have a primary hd with xp and ubuntu (worked fine) then i installed win98 on a 2nd hd (unpluging my 1st so nothing could go wrong) but now i can only boot to win98
[04:26] <Petaris> I have installed linneighborhood using apt-get but no binary was installed, is this a known issue?
[04:26] <nikin> snpz: what widgetsets are supported?
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu: there is the super grub repair disk
[04:27] <Dimensions> erUSUL: which one of those can let me monitor for hours what i want is to have a graphical one which i can monitor for lets say two hours or more and less ...
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> silvestre: no sorry, but there is a portuguese channel
[04:27] <juan> where can i get that? <formally know as ubuntu
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> silvestre: Do you speak spanish ?
[04:27] <silvestre> i not see help it
[04:28] <javiolo> !es
[04:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:28] <silvestre> i am report erro and your me help
[04:28] <silvestre> ok?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone know the two letter abbreviation for portugues
[04:29] <iLikeSpoons> pt?
[04:29] <iLikeSpoons> !pt
[04:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:29] <juan> where can i get a super grub repair disk?
[04:30] <sorush20> my xsession file just gives me warnings about not being able send to buffer
[04:30] <sorush20> any ideas?
[04:30] <Macros42> what's the syntax to run a file on a different drive?
[04:30] <erUSUL> Dimensions: i do not Know but i found this http://www.howtoforge.com/server_monitoring_monit_munin
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> juan: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html  but many of the grub problems can be fixed with our help..
[04:30] <tbaur> hey
[04:30] <juan> well its completly gone i think
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[04:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:31] <lucien> bonjour
[04:31] <Tjoels> what does the "i2c" module in xorg.conf do?
[04:31] <tbaur> I'll think about it
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> lucien: Hello
[04:32] <Nookie^> Jack_Sparrow: dude can u help me out... when trying to watch movies everything is mixxed with blue color for some reason
[04:32] <DethKlok> Anyone know how to use Microsoft mmc's in Linux? Would like to switch my work pc over to Linux but need to administer a windows environment.
[04:32] <Nookie^> Jack_Sparrow:
[04:32] <Nookie^> Jack_Sparrow: i have reinstalled totem and totem-xine but same thing still
[04:32] <juan> can ubuntu v5.10 burn disks of the live cd
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Nookie^:  I would not know where to start... other than have you start reloading mm drivers
[04:33] <Craigo> Hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu on a new machine and sorted out SSH for X11 Forwarding. However, the box is taking a very long time to load up a remote terminal (ssh -X or ssh -Y) :/ Any help?
[04:33] <Nookie^> Jack_Sparrow: no i have not... how do i do that ... how do i reload them
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[04:34] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:34] <Tjoels> Does a guide which describes all of the modules of xorg.conf exist?
[04:34] <finalbeta> To play video, Ubuntu comes with Totem Movie Player which looks and functions similar to Windows Media Player << lols, yeah right
[04:35] <sorush20> who was helping me with the gnome loging in problem please help cause I don't know what to do now.. I managed to view the file xseessions.error and there were buffer warnings about gnome panel..
[04:36] <kaolti> do i need dhcp to assgin ips when i set up internet connection sharing with firestarter
[04:36] <kaolti> ?
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Nookie^: I should have asked, what type of movies, dvd's or online video stuff
[04:37] <sorush20> anyone please?
[04:37] <Dragonfire1> hi
[04:37] <Guest7468> hey can anyone help me out? cant get my ehternet adaptor to work under ubuntu
[04:37] <rich_> Hi I am having connecting to the net. I can connect using Konquerer and collect mail, unable to connect with Firefox and ap-get
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest7468: Please identify the hardware you are trying to install/get working.  CHipset is always helpful
[04:38] <Guest7468> give one sec
[04:39] <luu> how can it possibly be so difficult to get gcc to work.. :/ ubuntu fails me
[04:39] <Craigo> Hrm.. nobody knows about SSH X11 then? :-/
[04:39] <chell> hey guys
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !gcc
[04:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:40] <chell> I am looking for a maths program which should have a nice gtk gui
[04:40] <chell> it should also be capable of solving equations
[04:40] <chell> or simplifiying them
[04:40] <juan> if i have 2 HDs they both have seperate MBR right? so i can install grub onto 1 HD and completly ignore the other, then it would go down to bios settings which hd is used?
[04:41] <Guest7468> sorry about that its a realtek RTL8139, on a pentium 3
[04:41] <mantono> !rtf
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <bhrobinson> I was wanting to see if anyone knows when the official install of Evolution 2.8.0 will be available for Ubuntu?
[04:42] <kaolti> anybody know if i need dhcp to set up ICS with firestarter?
[04:42] <Nookie^> !HELPMEWITHBLUESCREEN!!!!!
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HELPMEWITHBLUESCREEN!!!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <chell> !mate
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <chell> !wtf
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <chell> !myself
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <juan> can we grow up abit and stop spaming the bot
[04:42] <chell> maybe
[04:42] <Nookie^> !dvd
[04:42] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:42] <chell> we can
[04:42] <Craigo> !ssh
[04:42] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:43] <chell> but that's pretty unlikely
[04:43] <raj>  No library found for -ldpstk
[04:43] <Nookie^> this adress is no longer existing: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html.
[04:43] <bhrobinson> I was wanting to see if anyone knows when the official install of Evolution 2.8.0 will be available for Ubuntu?
[04:43] <raj> when try to compile Image::Magick perl module
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest7468: THis might help get you started http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[04:44] <ubifu> thx man
[04:44] <knitt1> hello @all
[04:44] <chell> hi mate
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> 890 people say hello back
[04:44] <knitt1> can anyone help me with ntfs?
[04:44] <chell> !ntfs
[04:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:44] <vlt> Hello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper 6.06. Does anybody know the config file and format where to tell KDE's Konqueror not to show this message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
[04:45] <Fawzib> hello, I'm having a weird LAN problem. I'm installing a new server (have one already) when I boot the server I can do apt-get, ping but as soon as I try to ping a non-existing site the LAN stops working. I try to do /etc/init.d/networking restart (is this ok?) and I get eth0: link not ready and tulip_stop_rxtx() errors in kern.log. If I reboot things go back to normal again until I go to an...
[04:45] <knitt1> fast
[04:45] <SmokeyD> hi all, is it possible to install a package from source (so compile yourself and install without using apt) and then manually tell apt that some dependencies are installed?
[04:45] <knitt1> wow
[04:45] <Fawzib> ...unavailable site.
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> chell: what is the problem
[04:45] <knitt1> but i can view it
[04:45] <chell> There is no problem
[04:45] <sholden> can I use the kubuntu amarok 1.4.3 package w/ normal ubuntu?
[04:45] <knitt1> but i'd like to edit/create files on this partition
[04:45] <knitt1> is there a way?
[04:45] <SmokeyD> I am installing a package from source (need a bleeding edge version) but want to install an app through apt that depends on the manually installed package
[04:45] <chell> somebody asked:"Can you help me with ntfs" and I used the bot to display some information about ntfs
[04:45] <chell> !fuse -> knitt1
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuse - - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <Craigo> :/
[04:46] <chell> !fuse
[04:46] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:46] <chell> that's what I meant ;-)
[04:46] <SmokeyD> sholden, yes you can
[04:46] <TexasTaz> Morning everyone
[04:46] <chell> hi
[04:46] <bhrobinson> anyone on Evolution?
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> knitt1:  I dont suggest that
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> knitt1: SOme people have been lucky and had it work.. I did not
[04:47] <kaolti> how do i run perl scripts?
[04:47] <knitt1> thx
[04:47] <sholden> SmokeyD: I was having issues with my music collection after upgrading to 1.4.2.  It would tell me to check my TagLib.  Do you know anything about this error or if 1.4.3 would fix it?
[04:47] <DethKlok> Has anyone got M$ MMC
[04:47] <knitt1> but i don't want to ruin data
[04:47] <Fawzib> anyone?
[04:47] <DethKlok> to work under linux?
[04:48] <knitt1> 'coz i almost lost my win partition when installing dapper (hehe)
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> knitt1: fat32 can be read/write by both os with no addl drivers or problems
[04:48] <Nopic> how to make an iso image from psx game disk?
[04:48] <SmokeyD> sholden, no sorry. I don't use amarok (if you want to you cold check "listen" music player it's nice)
[04:48] <Nopic> dd doesn't work
[04:48] <TexasTaz> Has anyone had problems install freeradius from source on Ubuntu 6.06.1 Server?
[04:48] <TexasTaz> oops install* installing
[04:49] <knitt1> i know, but it's already ntfs-ed
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> knitt1: But you could shrink it and create a fat 32 to share
[04:49] <knitt1> i only have 1gib left
[04:49] <knitt1> that's not enough
[04:49] <jjjjjjj> how do i get rid of irc messages telling me when someone enters or leaves the room?
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jjjjjjj: what irc client
[04:50] <jjjjjjj> xchat
[04:51] <ruhan> hello
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> knitt1: you could change your ntfs to fat32... but that can also have problems
[04:51] <kaolti> i get this error when running firestarter :Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[04:51] <hayden> i am ssh'd into a ubuntu machine and a program is runnign (a game server) is there a way to exit the ssh client without exiting the program i started while i was ssh'd into the machine?
[04:52] <ruhan> helloooo
[04:52] <nahoj> when I boot my friends laptop the computer says that there is no operatingsystem on the Hard Disk, but when I boot with the ubuntu-cd using the option "boot from first hard disk" everything goes fine. what's wrong? how do I fix it?
[04:52] <quiet> hayden, use screen
[04:52] <quiet> hayden, otherwise, no.
[04:52] <kaolti> anybody know how to fix the error
[04:52] <kaolti> ?
[04:52] <knitt1> @nahoj: try testdisk
[04:52] <knitt1> cgsecurity.com
[04:52] <nahoj> knitt1, testdisk?
[04:52] <jjjjjjj> gtg
[04:53] <knitt1> and check partition flags and/or boot sectors
[04:53] <hayden> quiet: how do i use screen?
[04:53] <Subhuman> nahoj, looks like grub didnt install to the MBR
[04:54] <nahoj> Subhuman, that's what i thought as well, but how do I fix it?
[04:54] <quiet> hayden, apt-get install screen    then, when you connect via SSH... just enter the command 'screen'
[04:54] <quiet> you can start your stuff, then you can use ctrl+d to detach from the screen.
[04:55] <Subhuman> nahoj, umm boot up with the cd, then in ubuntu run "sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[04:55] <hayden> ok thanks
[04:55] <quiet> to reconnect where you left off (from ANY OTHER COMPUTER) just 'screen -x'   here... there's an excellent screen introduction...
[04:55] <quiet> hayden, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen
[04:55] <azathoth> screen is fantastic
[04:55] <quiet> screen is not gentoo specific... and that's a great tutorial
[04:55] <nahoj> Subhuman, , should I do that in a live-session?
[04:56] <Mortice> quiet: it's not Ctrl+d. It's Ctrl+A and then D
[04:56] <nahoj> or should I boot into my installed system?
[04:56] <quiet> Mortice, correct... i typoed.
[04:56] <azathoth> screen -r, to re-attach
[04:56] <Mortice> :)
[04:56] <Subhuman> nahoj, you "can", but its just as easy in the normal OS
[04:56] <quiet> screen -x does the same.
[04:56] <Mortice> screen -rd is safer
[04:56] <quiet> and then you can screen -x <screen_id> if you have multiple sessions.
[04:56] <Mortice> -d detaches it first, if it needs to
[04:56] <quiet> how is it 'safer'?
[04:57] <nahoj> Subhuman, I have already tried just that, sudo grub-install /dev/hda, but it does not work...
[04:57] <hayden> thanks guys
[04:57] <Mortice> safer in that it will get you attached to the screen even if it's attached somewhere else
[04:58] <quiet> screen -x does the same thing..
[04:58] <Mortice> and you won't have two attachments to it at once
[04:58] <nahoj> Subhuman, I should not write /dev/hda1 ??
[04:58] <quiet> sometimes multiple attachments are a good thing.
[04:58] <Mortice> quiet: yea, true
[04:58] <Mortice> sometimes they're not :)
[04:58] <quiet> i use screen for giving my best friend in VA tutorials on all kinds of FreeBSD stuff.... and i live near Chicago.
[04:59] <hayden> quiet: so if i run screen, then i exit the ssh client the programs are still running?
[04:59] <Subhuman> nahoj, no, because that will jus install it to the partition, not the actual harddrive, if you do it to hda1 the bios will not see the bootloader
[04:59] <quiet> I also always use screen -ls to see what it running though..
[04:59] <quiet> hayden, yes.
[04:59] <hayden> quiet: sweet, just what i wanted
[04:59] <nahoj> Subhuman, maybe i should post my output from grub-install in pastebin?
[04:59] <Mortice> screen is really cool.
[05:00] <jake> can anybody help with superkaramba
[05:00] <arvind_> .join #php
[05:00] <Mortice> jake: #kubuntu is a better channel for that
[05:00] <knowledgEngi> hello
[05:00] <knowledgEngi> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/FonyId96.html
[05:00] <jake> thanks
[05:00] <knowledgEngi> i have problem with mplayer
[05:01] <knowledgEngi> i cannot see video
[05:01] <knowledgEngi> ogg, mpg. ,,,,,,
[05:01] <knowledgEngi> 6 mount that i do not see a video
[05:02] <knowledgEngi> i think that is better i reinstall the last version of ubuntu
[05:02] <knowledgEngi> ubuntu 5.19
[05:02] <nahoj> Subhuman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22735
[05:02] <knowledgEngi> ubuntu 5.10
[05:02] <knowledgEngi> or slackware
[05:02] <joshritger> what are my alternatives to the media players that come with ubuntu, I am looking for somethign to play mp3's, I have vlc and i can't get amarok to play mp3's.
[05:02] <Mortice> !mp3
[05:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <quiet> joshritger, did you install codecs, goofball?
[05:02] <Tjoels> Hey folks
[05:02] <quiet> joshritger, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:03] <knowledgEngi> no, i do not look document about video
[05:03] <pojke> Hi, ive got a "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller" but its not working under ubuntu (its not found) but it works on Windows -- anyone know how i can get it to work under linux?
[05:03] <whazilla> what is a good c++ environment debugger bash compiler /editor and on ?
[05:03] <joshritger> quiet, no is it in the repositories?
[05:03] <whazilla> for Ubuntu ?
[05:03] <knowledgEngi> one year to read read read
[05:03] <knowledgEngi> and result nothink
[05:03] <knowledgEngi> nothing
[05:03] <DarkAudit> since Debian is replacing cdrtools with cdrkit, will Ubuntu do likewise?
[05:03] <quiet> joshritger, look at that link.. it will get everything from mp3's to DVD's, to Java working for you.
[05:03] <knowledgEngi> now i'm sure that reading do not solve de problem
[05:03] <knowledgEngi> the
[05:04] <knowledgEngi> i have readed all document about ubuntu and video
[05:04] <gnaff> DarkAudit, you'd think so, since they would change for the same reasons
[05:04] <Subhuman> nahoj, that instaled fine, reboot and see if it will work now
[05:04] <knowledgEngi> from 6 mount
[05:04] <joshritger> quiet, I have installed all the mp3 codecs off that page
[05:04] <gnaff> DarkAudit, issues of 'free'
[05:04] <joshritger> Still not working
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> knowledgEngi:  A channel speaking your native language may help you..  What is your native language?
[05:05] <DarkAudit> gnaff: and a developer whi is a regular horse's behind when anyone disagrees with him
[05:05] <DarkAudit> s/whi/who
[05:05] <gnaff> DarkAudit, yeah so better off without him
[05:05] <knowledgEngi> in italian channel nobody can help you
[05:05] <gnaff> hopefully the fork will be even better
[05:05] <vlt> Hello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper 6.06. Does anybody know the config file and format where to tell KDE's Konqueror not to show this message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
[05:05] <nahoj> Subhuman, this is what I see when I reboot: Hard disk boot sector invalid, Press "H" to retry Hard Disk, any other key for floppy
[05:06] <Subhuman> nahoj, you say this is a laptop?
[05:06] <nahoj> Subhuman, yes
[05:06] <Subhuman> it could be something that the vendor installed on the laptop, google the model number and linux to see if there are any issues with it.
[05:06] <Hoxzer_> can I somehow make flash player to use alsa?
[05:06] <quiet> install alsa-oss
[05:06] <nahoj> Subhuman, ok, thx for now...
[05:06] <quiet> Hoxzer_, ^^
[05:07] <pojke> Hi, ive got a "Agere Systems ET-1301 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller" but its not working under ubuntu (its not found) but it works on Windows -- anyone know how i can get it to work under linux?..
[05:07] <quiet> Hoxzer_, and set your /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to use "aoss"
[05:07] <quiet> pojke, do they have a linux driver?
[05:07] <Subhuman> quiet, what about if you use opera?
[05:07] <quiet> Subhuman, i don't use opera.. so i don't know.
[05:07] <pojke> quiet: i dont really know, i cant find any :(
[05:08] <quiet> pojke, lspci doesn't show it?
[05:08] <pojke> No, im in windows now but it shows something like 'Unsupported' or something
[05:08] <pojke> Other words, unknown card.
[05:09] <Hoxzer_> quiet: dood, you rock
[05:09] <quiet> Hoxzer_, ;)
[05:09] <quiet> pojke, http://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=1560
[05:09] <hippy> some1 help a newb with a networking problem? ubuntu detects my NIC "The interface eth0 is active" i have given it my routers ip as a dns server (same setting as the working windows box next to nix box) but still no internet...no pings...no nothin
[05:09] <pojke> quiet: What did you search for?
[05:09] <quiet> "Agere PCI-E gigabit linux"
[05:10] <JosefK> hippy: generally you should use DHCP, instead of setting the IP manually, if you have a router
[05:10] <pojke> quiet: i dont have ET-1310
[05:10] <muhammad> heey is there any flash programs that i can access with it .swf extensions ?
[05:10] <pojke> quiet: ive got ET-1301
[05:10] <quiet> pojke, chances are, the driver is compatible.
[05:10] <hippy> router and linux are set to dhcp
[05:10] <pojke> hmm
[05:10] <baskew> hippy: why not use dhcp
[05:10] <JosefK> hippy: but you just said you manually gave it a DNS IP, thus, not DHCP
[05:10] <quiet> muhammad, umm.. like.. flashplayer???
[05:10] <baskew> takse the gusswork out
[05:10] <Mortice> 9~Josef
[05:10] <baskew> *guesswork
[05:10] <hippy> network settings asked 4 1...this the prob?
[05:11] <whyameye> just upgraded to Dapper on my Dell D600 Latitude and now the CPU scales speeds on demand even when plugged in. I'd like it to just be at %100 when plugged in. How can I change this?
[05:11] <Mortice> JosefK: You can be using DHCP and not have the server give out DNS information
 yea i have tried to open them with mplayer but error message appeared :S
[05:11] <JosefK> Mortice: true, but highly unlikely
[05:11] <iiiears> your router's ip should very possibly be listed as a "gateway" you isp owns the dns servers you need to translate ip numbers to ip domain names
[05:11] <Mortice> JosefK: fair enough :)
[05:11] <quiet> muhammad, wtf would you open it with mplayer?
[05:11] <kwilson> I have the strangest problem
[05:11] <quiet> muhammad, open it with flashplayer
[05:11] <rapha> Hi all!
[05:11] <kwilson> I have been posting to mailing list to no avail
[05:12] <rapha> I'm having problems extending my Xinerama setup by one more screen... can somebody help me?
[05:12] <kwilson> server is powering off when installing software
[05:12] <hippy> ok, so what to do?
  lol thats my Q where i can download a flashplayer except flashplugin-nonfree
[05:12] <kwilson> using apt-get
[05:12] <quiet> muhammad, adobe.com?
[05:12] <kwilson> anyone had this problem?
[05:12] <riddlebox> hello, I did adduser to create a new user, but that user cannot do sudo anything?
  tried it the same porbe >>>>
[05:12] <quiet> muhammad, you could open it inside of firefox or something, too.
[05:12] <JosefK> hippy: probably best to 'gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces'
[05:13] <VisualStation> riddlebox you must add this user at the group well
[05:13] <hippy> thanks..i'll try it
[05:13] <riddlebox> how do I do that from cli?
[05:13] <iiiears> hippy - alas i am not a guru so.. install firestarter firewall and let it do the heavy lifting.
 tried but no sounds ! the movie open correctly but no sounds
[05:13] <VisualStation> with the console or the gui ?
[05:13] <quiet> muhammad, use alsa-oss
[05:13] <JosefK> hippy: make sure you have a line that says 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[05:13] <quiet> muhammad, install alsa-oss and set /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to use "aoss"
 i will try now
[05:13] <JosefK> hippy: and not 'iface eth0 static' (if it's static, the information could be spread across multiple lines)
 thx alooot
[05:14] <JosefK> hippy: also make sure there's a line that says 'auto eth0' (this brings the interface up at boot)
[05:14] <riddlebox> VisualStation, how would I do that from command line?
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: what does gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces'   do?
[05:14] <pip> Hello,what's the different betweet file.i386 and file.i686 ?
[05:14] <`m0> alsa-oss works great?
[05:15] <Mortice> riddlebox: you probably have to edit /etc/sudoers with the "sudo visudo" command, actually.
[05:15] <`m0> quiet: does alsa-oss work great ? no crashes?
[05:15] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: that brings up a root gedit, editing the file "/etc/network/interfaces" - it's better to use gksudo than sudo for xwindow things
 thx aloooooooooooooooot its workin now :D
[05:15] <pip> I am look for a file but there are l lot of versions of it ,which one to choose?
[05:15] <`m0> muhammad: does the sound work?
[05:15] <quiet> muhammad, good :)    `m0 it works fine for me..
 yup after installin alsa-soss
[05:15] <VisualStation> sudo adduser the_group and user
[05:15] <hippy> yes i have those entries...auto eth0   iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: I understand gksudo... but when I do that I just get a blank prompt
[05:15] <muhammad> alsa-oss*
[05:16] <VisualStation> sudo adduser the_group user
[05:16] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: so you should
[05:16] <`m0> quiet: hmm, many flashplayers have incombability with sound :x iguess I will install alsa-oss then
[05:16] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: stick an & after it if you want the terminal
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: Sorry for th enoob questions, just trying to learn
[05:16] <fiXXXerMet> Hi everyone.  I'm using apache2-ssl-certificate, but I host multiple domains, etc (www.domain.tld, this.example.net) - can I simply rename the apache.pem file that it creates, and tell my virtual host to use the renamed file?
[05:16] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: np's :) & would background the command, so you can still use the terminal
[05:17] <JosefK> hippy: unusual :/ I guess we should make sure the interface is up, try 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sleep 3 && sudo ifup eth0'  (just recycles the interface)
[05:17] <VisualStation> riddlebox : sudo adduser username the_groups
[05:17] <ToHellWithGA> i need to find and/or file a bug related to the ice1712 sound chipset.  when i move my mouse across the desktop with an input routed directly to output, whether it is analog or digital, the output cuts out
[05:17] <juan> im using a live cd 5.1 to try and fix my grub as per guides but i cant access my original config files because the disk manager isnt working, is there anything i can do?
[05:17] <pip> Hello,what's the different betweet file.i386 and file.i686 ?
[05:18] <alex323> Does anyone know why when I try to `ifup eth0`, it says, "Network is down"?
[05:18] <hippy> sudo ifdown eth0
[05:18] <rapha> Will Xorg not at all allow one Matrox and one NVidia card in the system?
[05:18] <pip> anything serious if I chose the wrong one ?
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: Just to show you how dumb I was I accidentally left the ` on the end and was getting nothing... I see now said the blind man.. :)
[05:19] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: ah :P
[05:19] <PingunZ> How can I totally remove Openoffice ?
[05:19] <mikeconcepts> when I run sudo-apt-get update I see the following error Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[05:20] <mikeconcepts> I'm on dapper
[05:21] <iiiears> pip - Not if you bought your machine in the last 5 years. - really haven't noticed any practical performance difference running I386 kernel even on a newer amd k7 chip.
[05:21] <Neo8750> what excatly should be in the /etc/usplash.conf file?
[05:21] <Neo8750> because since i'm booting off an older kernel (for wifi) my usplash errors saying that it can't open /etc/usplash.conf
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: Would you mind posting your sources list to the pastebin
[05:21] <hippy> those comands returned no output...  sudo ifdown eth0 ... sleep 3 ... sudo ifup eth0  ...did i input them wrong?
[05:22] <JosefK> hippy: did you leave the quotes around it? :/
[05:22] <hippy> i am new to linux
[05:22] <mikeconcepts> as soon as I learn that, np
[05:22] <hippy> no ""
[05:22] <alxandra_> when i try to install "libdbus1-2" or upgrade "dbus" with apt-get, it tries to remove lots of thing from the computer including linux-restricted-modules headers, linux-image.
[05:22] <iceman> Mericle, no one has converted Linux to a "Tivo" descrambler.
[05:22] <alxandra_> should i continue removing them
[05:22] <Neo8750> should the usplash.conf file only have 2 lines in it?
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > mikeconcepts
[05:23] <JosefK> hippy: odd, try to copy & paste exactly (removing the quotes) "sudo ifdown eth0 && sleep 3 && sudo ifup eth0"
[05:23] <riddlebox> VisualStation, addgroup name admin is the command in case you wanted to know
[05:24] <hippy> no...3 seperate lines...lemmie try all together
[05:24] <Max_Steel> anybody know where I found a ubuntu 64 bits repositori?
[05:24] <iceman> Wonder, Anyone know how many hour of video you can revord to a 40 or 80 Gig harddrive, from a Security camera ?
[05:24] <WineO> hello all.  Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update history?
[05:24] <fotang> how do I stop a process created as follows (ctrl-c* doesnt seem to work)? bash$ while true;do ping -c somehost;done
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: Is the sleep3 a pause to let the nic settle?
[05:24] <hippy> can't copy/paste...2 different machines
[05:24] <monteiro> anyone has a hda-intel sound from with codec:  Generic 14f1 ID 5047 ?
[05:24] <JosefK> hippy: keep the '&&' too, it's important
[05:24] <iiiears> !easysource
[05:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:24] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: yes, it's probably not needed, but 'feels right'
[05:24] <knowledgEngi> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/YkKvVd66.html
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: Dosent hurt... and I learned something
[05:25] <Max_Steel> ubotu, but this repositori is dont good
[05:25] <VisualStation> yes
[05:26] <mikeconcepts> Jack-Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22737
[05:26] <iiiears> Max_Steel - ?? - uh-oh! - Why is that?
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: Like I thought, you have been using the automatix script..
[05:27] <mikeconcepts> first time using pastebin - very handy tool
[05:27] <MrZaius> why do the permissions to /var/www and /var/www/*/ get reset when I restart apache?
[05:27] <mikeconcepts> True
[05:27] <hippy> ok...typed 1 line no "" 2 && still no output
[05:27] <hippy> i think i typed it right this time
[05:28] <ChrisCox> I need help installing a wireless card, does anyone have expeirience with SparkLAN WL-311F's?
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: You can repair your sources using easysource... But we try to discourage people from using automatix...
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > mikeconcepts
[05:28] <JosefK> hippy: that definitely shouldn't happen :/
[05:29] <WineO> hello all.  Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update history?
[05:29] <snowflake> hey, Im having troubles installing linux on a zepto 6214w... everything is running smoothly until I reach the partitioning part.... Then I get an error
[05:29] <snowflake> "Error while creating /dev/sda1
[05:29] <snowflake> Be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect other operations on the list."
[05:29] <snowflake> what can I do?
[05:29] <JosefK> hippy: not even a password prompt for 'sudo'?
[05:29] <Runithard> snowflake: manual partition edit
[05:29] <ChrisCox> Does anyone know where Ubuntu installs it's Linux Sorucetree in?
[05:29] <snowflake> doesn't work
[05:29] <hippy> i input  sudo ifdown eth0 && sleep3 && sudo ifup eth0
[05:30] <JosefK> ChrisCox: if you mean the kernel, when you install the package it leaves it compressed in /usr/src
[05:30] <hippy> gave me a prompt the first time i put sudo in...
[05:30] <snowflake> have tried both cfdisk, gparted and the installer...
[05:30] <mikeconcepts> Jack-Sparrow: I did it to be able to view video on cnn, bad thing I guess - opens me up for trouble
[05:30] <hippy> not since...should i close the gedit window?
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: Even if it works 95% of the time that is 1 in 20 that come here for us to try and fix a broken system
[05:30] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I've tried usr/src but it says the pate is incomplete/missing
[05:30] <JosefK> hippy: oh, yes :/
[05:30] <JosefK> ChrisCox: the source isn't installed by default
[05:30] <iiiears> ChrisCox - Packages cached locally after installation?   /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:30] <NineliveZ> Can anyone help me with Ubuntu install? I want to switch from Windows 2003 Server (due too activiation) but can't format the disks/delete all files.
[05:31] <hippy> ...i am a newb...sry...lemmie try again
[05:31] <snowflake> Im actually not even able to open cfdisk...
[05:31] <JosefK> hippy: np's, gl :)
[05:31] <mikeconcepts> Jack-Sparrow: I did it to be able to view video on cnn, bad thing I guess - opens me up for trouble
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: save a copy of your sources if you must, rebuild from that page and try again
[05:31] <ChrisCox> Josefk, i want the main Linux SourceTree
[05:31] <ChrisCox> iiiears: i don't want a package
[05:31] <mikeconcepts> Jack-Sparrow: I will do that
[05:31] <alxandra_> why does installing libdbus-1-2 with apt-get removes lots of thing including linux-headers and restricted files
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: We are happy to help people learn how to do what that script trys to automate
[05:32] <magus_x> i got problems to mount my mp3 player
[05:32] <magus_x> no idea of what sould i do
[05:32] <magus_x> *should
[05:32] <JosefK> ChrisCox: 'sudo aptitude install linux-source'
[05:32] <MrZaius> why do the permissions to /var/www and /var/www/*/ get reset when I restart apache?
[05:32] <MrZaius> I had 'em set to 755, but they magically go to 644 when apache gets restarted
[05:32] <ChrisCox> JosefK: does it need to be installed?
[05:32] <MrZaius> and then nothin' works
[05:32] <mikeconcepts> Jack-Sparrow: thanks - off to do that task
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeconcepts: gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list   will give you the permissions you need to do that
[05:32] <WineO> MrZaius: have you asked the apache forum?
[05:32] <magus_x> "Cannot mount : UDI given is not a montable volume"
[05:32] <JosefK> ChrisCox: well, if you want the source tree, you'll have to install the source tree :)
[05:32] <arvind_> where are the files downloaded using xchat are stored on ubuntu ?
[05:32] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I would have thought it would have been already installed
[05:33] <rody> hi
[05:33] <JosefK> ChrisCox: nope, there was an executive decision not to include developer tools by default in a 'user-centric' environment like Ubuntu
[05:33] <WineO> rody: hi
[05:33] <rody> somo help me
[05:33] <magus_x> i got problems to mount my mp3 player
[05:33] <MrZaius> WineO: I haven't ever had this problem on gentoo or any other distro
[05:33] <rody> aiglx dont work
[05:33] <snowflake> still unable to do the partitioning ...
[05:33] <JosefK> ChrisCox: you'll probably want to install 'build-essential' when you get the kernel source too
[05:33] <iiiears> josefK - How do you use the uname thing d/l ing source?
[05:33] <MenZa> How do I set my default login manager as kdm instead of gdm?
[05:33] <MrZaius> WineO: assumed it was ubuntu-specific
[05:34] <JosefK> iiiears: for the source, the arch doesn't matter
[05:34] <arvind_> where are the files downloaded using xchat are stored on ubuntu ?
[05:34] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I have an error here
[05:34] <WineO> Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update histor
[05:34] <magus_x> i got problems to mount my mp3 player, what command should i type? i cant mount it!, when i click on it i get the error
[05:34] <magus_x> "Cannot mount : UDI given is not a montable volume",
[05:34] <hippy> ok...now it prompted 4 pwd and output Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.03   copyright line   Listing on Lpf/eth0/... sending on Lpf/eth0/...
[05:34] <kOpter> Yello.. on cold boot my Ubuntu fails to recognize my chipset, causing all sorts of problems. Rebooting fixes this. Anyone got any ideas why?
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> MenZa: Did you try options on the page where you enter your user name and pass
[05:34] <JosefK> hippy: that's good, all it's done has brought the interface down and back up again
[05:35] <hippy> ok
[05:35] <hippy> still no net, tho...now what?
[05:35] <JosefK> hippy: see if 'ifconfig' lists an IP address
[05:35] <hippy> k
[05:35] <JosefK> ChrisCox: what errors?
[05:35] <MenZa> How do I set my default login manager as kdm instead of gdm?
[05:35] <MenZa> I forgot how.
[05:35] <ChrisCox> JosefK: It says "Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main linux-source-2.6.15 2.6.15-2.6.46
[05:36] <kOpter> MenZa : dkpg-reconfigure gdm
[05:36] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[05:36] <kOpter> MenZa : dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:36] <MenZa> kOpter: cheers
[05:36] <JosefK> ChrisCox: more DNS :( you do have net access on the machine?
[05:36] <hippy> lo inet addr 127.0.0.1
[05:36] <hippy> no eth0
[05:36] <ChrisCox> JosefK: No, that is why i'm trying to install 'wireless'
[05:37] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Do i need net access?
[05:37] <JosefK> ChrisCox: ah :/ this is the main reason I think it _is_ a good idea to have kernel-source and developer tools on the install CD
[05:37] <JosefK> ChrisCox: if you can get wired net, it's a lot easier
[05:37] <kaolti> i cant change my resolution in ubuntu
[05:37] <kaolti> why?
[05:37] <kaolti> its 1280x1024
[05:37] <kaolti> and i cant change it
[05:38] <kOpter> Yello.. on cold boot my Ubuntu fails to recognize my chipset, causing all sorts of problems. Rebooting fixes this. Anyone got any ideas why?
[05:38] <JosefK> hippy: try just running 'sudo ifup eth0'.  if ifconfig doesn't list it after that, it may be a driver problem
[05:38] <ChrisCox> JosefK: If i get wired net a machine already on the network would have to be disconnected, but if i use wireless i can access the router without unplugging a current computer
[05:38] <kedar> hello guys
[05:38] <JosefK> ChrisCox: that's unfortunate, but neccessary
[05:38] <kaolti> anybody has this problem?
[05:39] <kedar> can anyone help me in installin my repo
[05:39] <kaolti> the refresh rate is at 60hz my eyes hurt :(
[05:39] <JosefK> ChrisCox: you need the kernel source and build-essential before you can make the wireless driver, and you need them from the net
[05:39] <kaolti> when i try to change it it just logs me out
[05:39] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I can get net for a bit until my wireless is up
[05:39] <kaolti> but the res is the same
[05:39] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I already have build-essential
[05:39] <rody> kaolti, you have to puty in xorg.conf the resolutions if you want
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: Did you install video drivers for your card... HOw did you install them.. What video card/chipset?
[05:40] <JosefK> ChrisCox: well, the download'll be quicker then.  you could always download http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-source-2.6.15 and transfer it on Cd/DVD
[05:40] <WineO> Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update history?
[05:40] <MrZaius> NineliveZ: what services do you run in windows?
[05:40] <hippy> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval #       ...   No DHCPOFFERS recieved   ...   No working leases in persestant database - sleeping
[05:40] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: i didnt install anything except ubuntu.i have onboard video card
[05:40] <kedar> hello plz help me guys
[05:40] <kedar> i m new to linux
[05:41] <MrZaius> kedar: ask your question
[05:41] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm getting wired net for a while on my laptop so i can download this source, so i'll talk to you on my laptop in a min k?
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: Please post your  gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   file to the pastebin
[05:41] <JosefK> ChrisCox: yeah, np's
[05:41] <magus_x> i got problems to mount my mp3 player, what command should i type? i cant mount it!, when i click on it i get the error
[05:41] <magus_x> "Cannot mount : UDI given is not a montable volume",
[05:41] <magus_x> my ubuntu is breezy
[05:41] <JosefK> ChrisCox: there may need to be some 'hacky' things we'll have to do to make your wireless module build, hopefully not though
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > kaolti
[05:41] <MenZa> kOpter: It's not really working even thoughI enabled it; I restart X but it just starts GDM
[05:41] <kedar> MrZaius: i wanna install my repo wht shall i do
[05:42] <rody> kaolti, go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf puty there the resolution you want
[05:42] <MrZaius> you mean add a repo to your apt sources.list?
[05:42] <kedar> no the exist system repo
[05:42] <MrZaius> edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and add it there
[05:42] <MrZaius> exist?
[05:43] <kedar> coz i can't play my application on linux like music or other stuck
[05:43] <l_r> there doesn't seem to be any iptables script which saves and restores the rules on startup and shutdown
[05:43] <kedar> i wann enable my repo
[05:43] <l_r> is this true?
[05:43] <MrZaius> which application can't you run?
[05:43] <juan> !grub] 
[05:43] <kedar> MrZaius: r u gettin wht i mean
[05:43] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[05:43] <juan> !grub
[05:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:43] <MrZaius> nope
[05:43] <MrZaius> which application can't you run?
[05:43] <l_r> i am surprised ubuntu lacks such an important thing like scripts for managing iptables on boot/shutdwon
[05:44] <MrZaius> and what type of files can't you open?
[05:44] <kedar> tottem movie player n xmms
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[05:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:44] <kaolti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22738
[05:44] <kaolti> the conf file
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[05:44] <Runithard> !rm
[05:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:44] <kedar> MrZaius: u see i m new to linux yesterday only i installed ubuntu
[05:45] <kedar> MrZaius: one of my friend suggested me
[05:45] <kaolti> if i change the res in the conf file manually isnt that the same when i change it from gui?
[05:45] <Runithard> kedar: get mplayer
[05:45] <MrZaius> okay.  what kind of problems are you having with totem and xmms?
[05:45] <MrZaius> Runithard: wouldn't help if the root problem here is that he doesn't have certain codecs installed.  bet that's what he's getting at
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: You are still running under the vesa driver... Do you know the make and model of your video card?
[05:45] <hippy> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval #       ...   No DHCPOFFERS recieved   ...   No working leases in persestant database - sleeping
[05:45] <iiiears> Welcome kedar! :)   A lot of new people here. - Ubuntu is great.
[05:46] <Runithard> MrZaius, mplayer plays everything, who needs to use totem when you've got mplayer, the most illegal awesome movie player ever :-)
[05:46] <hippy> how to change sleeping to active?
[05:46] <JosefK> hippy: :/ erk, your DHCP server isn't responding.  the first thing I'd check in that case was the network cable
[05:46] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: i do
[05:46] <MrZaius> Runithard: mplayer, totem, and practically everything else use the same libs to decode media
[05:46] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: the only place to get the linux drivers is their homepage?
[05:47] <hippy> cable fine...light on router is on
[05:47] <kaolti> its a chipset actually
[05:47] <MrZaius> win32codecs, libxvid, libmad, etc
[05:47] <Runithard> MrZaius, mplayer uses it's own internal codecs, i just compiled it and installed it
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: Please tell us what video you are using
[05:47] <iiiears> ffmpeg  -   mplayer is good but vlc videolan will stream files. - nice
[05:48] <JosefK> hippy: coudl you paste 'cat /var/log/messages | tail -50' to:
[05:48] <JosefK> !paste
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <rody> kaolti, mother fuck... just go in xorg.conf edit him and puty you resolution
[05:48] <MrZaius> Runithard: no it doesn't.  you either already had the libs there or pulled them down at the same time.  look at the deps in gentoo's ebuild for mplayer, and see how other distros handle it
[05:48] <iiiears> !language
[05:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:49] <MrZaius> it plainly depends on the others
[05:49] <kaolti> :)
[05:49] <kaolti> ok
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[05:49] <kaolti> but i dont know the format
[05:49] <kaolti> sry
[05:49] <kaolti> im new
[05:49] <MrZaius> Jack_Sparrow: gentoo is not a curse word!
[05:49] <JosefK> hippy: also, could you please run 'lspci -v' and 'lsmod' and paste them there too
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> MrZ see rody above
[05:49] <hippy> y
[05:49] <hippy> err...yes
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: What chipset is in your computer
[05:50] <MrZaius> Jack_Sparrow: buy a sense of humor :)  that and iiiears had already called him on it
[05:50] <JosefK> hippy: well, if the cables definitely in, and by the sound of it active, but you're not getting a DHCP response, it could be something more subtle
[05:50] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: sry i had to look it up its VIA P4M800
[05:50] <adiddy> lots off ppl here today!
[05:50] <JosefK> hippy: I'm assuming you've got the cable in the LAN, not the WAN side of the router btw ;)
[05:51] <adiddy> just got ubuntu 6
[05:51] <hippy> yes in NIC 4
[05:51] <adiddy> why are some things broken in it?
[05:51] <JosefK> hippy: ah, you can't paste, because you have not net *slaps foreheard*
[05:52] <hippy> that is alot of output...what are u looking 4...i can't copy/paste it...there is far 2 much...and i am on another machine
[05:52] <JosefK> *forehead
[05:52] <adiddy> any one know?
[05:52] <alxandra_> xdfgdf
[05:52] <adiddy> the progmas that were in 5.10 aren't avail for 6
[05:52] <adiddy> i find this really odd
[05:52] <JosefK> hippy: yes, that just occured to me too :/ the best thing to do would be to get the name of the NIC from lspci (look for something to do with network) and try googling for problems with Linux
[05:53] <hippy> k
[05:53] <adiddy> and even mor ethat work in 4 are diffrent
[05:53] <adiddy> and the screen saver in 6 is way to basic all of a sudden
[05:54] <redbluefish> What is the best way to determine what version of ubuntu is running via the command line?
[05:54] <vlt> Hello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper 6.06. Does anybody know the config file and format where to tell KDE's Konqueror not to show this message: "This untrusted page links to file://...Do you want to follow the link?"?
[05:54] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm back, and installing the linux-source
[05:54] <signalvsnoise> anyone know why there doesn't seem to be a k8-smp kernel in the repository?
[05:54] <iiiears> redbluefish - uname -help
[05:54] <adiddy> sorry
[05:54] <gnomefreak> redbluefish: lsb_release -a
[05:54] <adiddy> speaking kde can run that live in ubuntu?
[05:54] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: i checked and there is no drvier at viaarena.com for ubuntu, nor debian.what now?
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti:  Sorry for the lag. there seems to be a workaround for that card...
[05:55] <redbluefish> thanx
[05:55] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Where is the linux-source going to be installed into?
[05:55] <gubuntu> how do i stop gdm on a particular display?
[05:56] <xopher> ChrisCox, /usr/src
[05:56] <ChrisCox> xopher: Thanks
[05:56] <adiddy> so know know why the "dumbed down the screen saver ?
[05:56] <adiddy> seems i can't tweak it any more
[05:56] <JosefK> ChrisCox: sorry chris, was afk.  it'll be archived in /usr/src, I _think_ it's a bzip2, so 'sudo tar -xjvf *.bz2' should sort it
[05:56] <adiddy> ubuntu is getting ti simplistic
[05:57] <adiddy> they need to give the user more options
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti:   http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=71408&STARTPAGE=1  has the closest info I could find..  Sorry I could not be more help
[05:57] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I just want it to be installed, i dont want to run it, it's so i can install my wireless card, i just needed to know where it was for part of the install
[05:57] <Spec> How do I get cron to run something the first sunday of every month?
[05:57] <adiddy> reverted back to 5 becasue 6 is too baisc
[05:57] <gubuntu> !cron
[05:57] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[05:57] <adiddy> cron?
[05:57] <JosefK> ChrisCox: you'd need to run that command to unarchive it, otherwise your driver installer won't know what to do
[05:57] <garryF> I think its a consequence of the dumbed down gnome2. Nice modular design, but some things seem to be a side grade instead of an upgrade overall.
[05:58] <iiiears> !anacron
[05:58] <ubotu> anacron: a cron-like program that doesn't go by time. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 196 kB
[05:58] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I see
[05:58] <adiddy> ok
[05:58] <adiddy> 2.14
[05:58] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: np. u helped a lot. thanks
[05:58] <ChrisCox> !terminal
[05:58] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:58] <adiddy> powerful maybe hard to use? yup
[05:58] <ChrisCox> Ooo
[05:59] <kedar> hey thnxs guys for helpin me
[05:59] <kedar> i'll be back if i have any pb again
[05:59] <kedar> bye n TC everyone
[05:59] <iiiears> kedar - Hurry back and share what you know with the next new user. :)  take care
[06:00] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I think it already unpacked it
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Arrgh, I have to go to work today for the first time in three years... I dont want to leave anyone hanging..
[06:00] <segas> anyone knows why I can't use sudo gdm restart? my gfx didn't work properly, so i had to install it manually, after this, I can't start the installation again....it says it's already running... :(
[06:00] <adiddy> will the new human theme work on an older ubuntu?
[06:00] <JosefK> ChrisCox: that would be unusual, is there a directory in there, or a just a file .tar.bz2?
[06:00] <adiddy> gfx?
[06:01] <segas> adiddy: graphiccard..
[06:01] <JosefK> segas: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:01] <adiddy> ok
[06:01] <gubuntu> how do i stop gdm on a particular display?
[06:01] <adiddy> jus call it gpu then
[06:01] <opexoc> Could anybody help me get my prinet working... I installed HPLIP 1.6.7... My  System->Administration->Printing System even detect ( I think so ) this  printer and even I installed it, but I can't use it. When I want to print something then near the printer icon I see that is written: 2 jobs or something, but printer does not print.
[06:01] <garryF> Sometimes ctrl-alt-backspace will restart the gui
[06:01] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: can i change the resolution and refresh rate in the X11 conf file?
[06:01] <segas> JosefK: yeah, i know..but I entered /etc/init.d instead of typing the whole catalog... :)
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: What do you want to change them to..?
[06:01] <adiddy> lol of course you can
[06:02] <JosefK> segas: in that case, sudo ./gdm restart
[06:02] <adiddy> don't goto config though
[06:02] <segas> JosefK: it says it's already running.
[06:02] <adiddy> use prefernces in ubuntu
[06:02] <JosefK> segas: if it says that, you're not adding the ./
[06:02] <segas> JosefK: so, it's exactly like this: sudo ./gdm restart?
[06:03] <JosefK> segas: really, you should use the absolute path, there's no need to cd there.  'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[06:03] <adiddy> us ethe precne
[06:03] <JosefK> segas: what you're doing when you type 'sudo gdm restart' is either "sudo [first GDM on $PATH]  restart"
[06:03] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: well my monitor is whack so 1280x1024 at 75Hz wouldnt work.i thought 1024x768 85hz
[06:03] <adiddy> prefrence's
[06:04] <segas> JosefK: still says it's already running. :(
[06:04] <flo> hi ,is it possible to suppress any output when untaring an archive
[06:04] <flo> ?
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> go to system preferences screen res
[06:05] <adiddy> know as the kid who rev dogg
[06:05] <JosefK> segas: that's obscure, what does 'ls -ld /tmp' for permissions?
[06:05] <segas> JosefK: isn't there a way to kill the process? i'm new to the whole linux-thingy, so you'll have to excuse if any of my comments or replies sounds stupid.
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: What was your pastebin #... not sure if you will be able to get 85 without checking
[06:05] <adiddy> hell no answers me ethioer
[06:05] <adiddy> i ask about 6 lts no love there
[06:05] <kaolti> jhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22738
[06:05] <kaolti> sry
[06:05] <kaolti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22738
[06:05] <JosefK> segas if 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' fails, that probably means the process has been killed already, but either a) you don't have permissions on /tmp to create a lock file, or b) a lock file already exists somewhere for it
[06:06] <ChrisCox> JosefK: What command do i run to unpack this .bz2 file?
[06:06] <segas> JosefK: isn't there any way to run the installation in a fail-safe mode?
[06:06] <JosefK> ChrisCox: just pasted it in chat, it's "tar -xjvf [file to unpack] "
[06:06] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: i cant change it in the gui because the screen goes black and then it logs me out but the res and everything stays the same
[06:06] <adiddy> seems thing things are broken under 6
[06:06] <JosefK> segas: you could use the alternate install CD, but you'll end up with the same problems when it tries to bring GDM up after reboot
[06:07] <adiddy> add apps is lower and unstable any one else seeing this?
[06:07] <WineO> Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update history?
[06:07] <segas> JosefK: funny thing is, it worked last night, then my other hdd crashed.
[06:07] <segas> JosefK: oh well, i'll try again later...now i have to get something to eat.
[06:07] <segas> JosefK: thanks for helping.
[06:08] <JosefK> segas: np's - if that was the case, try the alternate install (it's text only)
[06:08] <ChrisCox> JosefK: How do i navi
[06:08] <segas|afk> JosefK: on the very same cd?
[06:08] <adiddy> don't under stand why thins were fine in 5.10 but not 6 lts!
[06:08] <JosefK> segas|afk: unfortunately, it's another CD :(
[06:08] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Sorry, how do i navigate to a certain folder?
[06:08] <JosefK> ChrisCox: cd
[06:08] <adiddy> places
[06:08] <segas|afk> JosefK: np...i'll get it then.....thanks again!
[06:08] <JosefK> ChrisCox: so, in this case, cd /usr/src
[06:08] <adiddy> the home folder
[06:08] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Thanks
[06:08] <adiddy> the gui i way
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: Did you used automatix or easyubuntu by chance?
[06:10] <ChrisCox> JosefK: It's saying there is no such file or directory, but it seems to be reading the file names in the zip (It's found the zip)
[06:10] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: :| i dunno i dld a desktop release from the site burned,installed and now im here
[06:10] <JosefK> JosefK: Ctl+C it
[06:10] <JosefK> grr, ChrisCox: Ctl+C it
[06:10] <mariux> is the 6.06.1 stuff available if i install 6.06 (through apt-update?)?
[06:10] <JosefK> ChrisCox: sudo tar -xjvf [file to decompress] 
[06:10] <ChrisCox> JosefK: What does Ctrl+C do?
[06:11] <JosefK> ChrisCox: my fault, forgot we were working in /usr/src for a minute - it breaks the current process
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: I did an edit to your xorg removing the higher res...  Save a copy of your old xorg before making the changes...   you could also do   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from a terminal/...
[06:11] <JosefK> ChrisCox: it's generally not a pretty break, but doesn't matter in this case since we aren't writing to any files atm anyway (no permission to)
[06:12] <rsl> Does anyone know anything about changing the way Firefox in Linux/Ubuntu handles certain key combinations? Specifically shift + back/forwards arrows.
[06:12] <gubuntu> can someone please tell me why i get two x sessions when my computer starts?
[06:12] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: lets do the conf change
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  save a backup
[06:13] <ChrisCox> JosefK: My gosh thats alot of files O.o
[06:13] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: ok
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: reload the original file.. so you are not working on the backup by mistake.. and make those changes..
[06:13] <JosefK> ChrisCox: yes :P
[06:14] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Those emoticons are rubbish XD
[06:14] <JosefK> ChrisCox: bzip2's very efficient at compressing plaintext
[06:14] <JosefK> ChrisCox: sorry, I'm keeping up with the latest emoti-fashions ^^
[06:14] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: u changed the pastebin?
[06:14] <ChrisCox> JosefK: lol
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: yes, I just removed the res you didnt want
[06:15] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: ok thanks i'll see if it works
[06:15] <kaolti> brb
[06:15] <kaolti> :P
[06:16] <iiiears> Jack_Sparrow - Do you know the command to change the display color depth from the command line?
[06:16] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Finally done! :P
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry no..
[06:16] <rolseth> I'm using edubuntu 6.06.. the thin client boots perfectly using the "vesa" video driver... however, as soon as X starts it kicks back to tty1.  If I do a alt+f7 Xwindows works fine but how can I get the client to start X and stay there?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> kaolti: Using the editor just remove the occurances of "1280x1024"  including the quotes.
[06:17] <kaolti> ok
[06:17] <ChrisCox> JosefK: How do i run a file?
[06:17] <JosefK> ChrisCox: okay :) hopefully that's all you need to do, and the module installer should work okay now
[06:18] <iiiears> Jack_Sparrow -me either,  - tho i am certain it isn't Xrandr - getting some really arcane error messages. - lol
[06:18] <JosefK> ChrisCox: cd to it, and then "chmod 755 *filename*; ./*filename*"
[06:18] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I Just want to run a file...
[06:18] <kaolti> jack_sparrow: ok i changed it when i restart it should take effect right?or logout/login is enough?
[06:18] <JosefK> ChrisCox: that's all that does
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> actually I am trying to focus on working today..   kaolti log out and in should do it
[06:19] <kaolti> ok
[06:19] <JosefK> ChrisCox: you can't run it if it doesn't have the correct permissions though, so the chmod makes sure it's read+write+execute for you
[06:19] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm in the folder, it isnt actually a file, its a command type thing, it's make config
[06:19] <JosefK> ChrisCox: if you're in the kernel path then stop!
[06:19] <signalvsnoise> Does anyone know how I can get the linux-image-amd64-k8 package to be available in synaptic?  I enabled all of the libraries, and I don't see it anywhere, but its listed at packages.ubuntu.com.
[06:19] <ChrisCox> I'm not in the kernal path!!!
[06:19] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm not in the kernal path!
[06:20] <JosefK> ChrisCox: phew - why are you trying to run this command?
[06:20] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I just want to run a file called "make config"
[06:20] <ChrisCox> JosefK: To install a wireless driver
[06:20] <iiiears> signalsvnoise - !easysource  ?
[06:20] <JosefK> ChrisCox: ah, you'll need to CD to wherever you decompressed it first
[06:21] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Ive done that...
[06:21] <JosefK> ChrisCox: then just 'sudo make config' (we're using sudo because it may install the module from this step, and that needs to be done as root)
[06:22] <kaolti> jack_sparrow the res is now 1024x768 and it says its at 85Hz but the screen is still flickering
[06:22] <kaolti> i dunno
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> JosefK: Nice work... thanks for the lesson...
[06:22] <kaolti> anyway.....thanks
[06:22] <JosefK> Jack_Sparrow: ^^
[06:23] <kaolti> i'll see if my eyes still hurt :P
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> See if JosefK can give you a command to lover that refresh rate..
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> lower
[06:23] <kaolti> josefk is there such a command?
[06:23] <magnet> JosefK: actually, make modules_install will install the module
[06:23] <JosefK> kaolti: there shouldn't be a command to do it, but it's definitely in your xorg.conf
[06:23] <magnet> make config won't so it shouldn't be sudoed
[06:23] <JosefK> magnet: it sounds like a third party driver, I'm not sure we can guarauntee what it can/can't do
[06:24] <JosefK> magnet: my guess was that a README file he had up said run 'make config'
[06:24] <Stroganoff> which gui suite supports me in making policy conform ubuntu packages?
[06:24] <magnet> well, third party or not, I guess it respects the kernel guidelines
[06:25] <kaolti> JosefK i cant see anywhere in the conf 85 or 75 anything like that'
[06:25] <ChrisCox> JosefK: 2.5.0 and later kernels require that PCMCIA be configured in the
[06:25] <ChrisCox>     kernel source tree.  To fix, reconfigure and rebuild your
[06:25] <ChrisCox>     kernel with PCMCIA enabled.
[06:25] <ChrisCox> Configuration failed.
[06:25] <ChrisCox> make: *** [config]  Error 1
[06:25] <ChrisCox> Make any sense too you?
[06:25] <gubuntu> how do i exit on tty8?
[06:25] <magnet> ChrisCox: make menuconfig, activate PCMCIA, build again :)
[06:25] <JosefK> ChrisCox: yes, we need to copy the config file from /boot to /usr/src/*kernel-version* and then run 'make oldconfig'
[06:26] <twosharp> whats the lightest and fastest login manager? wdm, xdm, gdm or what? =)
[06:26] <ChrisCox> JosefK: So, what are the commands?
[06:26] <JosefK> twosharp: login ;)
[06:26] <JosefK> ChrisCox: cd to /usr/src/*kernel directory*
[06:26] <kaolti> JosefK i cant see anywhere in the conf 85 or 75 anything like that'
[06:27] <twosharp> JosefK, ok sorry, graphical login manager then?
[06:27] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Done
[06:27] <JosefK> kaolti: sorry, if it isn't in there, you may need to add a line for it, I've been using TFTs for a while and can't really help though :(
[06:27] <kaolti> ok thanks
[06:28] <JosefK> ChrisCox: okay, run 'uname -a' and then 'ls /boot/config-*'
[06:28] <kaolti> but u know where can i take a look at a CRT conf file?
[06:28] <nebiru> So, I had sound working beautifully, rebooted my machine, and now I only have sound in Flash, any ideas how to get sound back?
[06:28] <JosefK> kaolti: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 looks promising
[06:28] <ChrisCox> JosefK: What do i replace the * with?
[06:28] <iiiears> !sound
[06:28] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:28] <Stroganoff> is there a gui that helps me in creating good .deb packages?
[06:29] <JosefK> ChrisCox: just leave it as a * sorry, we'll let ls worry about the pattern matching
[06:29] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Okay, it's done
[06:30] <JosefK> ChrisCox: okay, one of those files should have the same version as showed up in 'uname -a', run "sudo cp /boot/*that files full name* ./.config"
[06:31] <scampbel> is there a guaranteed way to remove a package? Trying to dpkg -r a package and dpkg says "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal"
[06:31] <scampbel> using --force-all doesn't help =/
[06:32] <ChrisCox> JosefK: chris@Laptop-Main:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15$ sudo cp /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386/config
[06:32] <ChrisCox> cp: missing destination file operand after `/boot/config-2.6.15-26-386/config'
[06:32] <ChrisCox> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[06:32] <ChrisCox> ??
[06:32] <riddlebox> hehe, I was working remotely on my system and needed to reboot, but forgot
[06:33] <riddlebox> I had it set to dhcp and my ssh forwarded only to one ip
[06:33] <JosefK> ChrisCox: no need for the /config, just "sudo cp /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386 ./.config"
[06:34] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Wont work, it just starts a new line
[06:34] <twosharp> whats the lightest and fastest graphical login manager? wdm, xdm, gdm or what? =)
[06:35] <JosefK> ChrisCox: that means it's worked :)
[06:35] <JosefK> ChrisCox: "ls -l .config" to verify it
[06:35] <ChrisCox> JosefK: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 69903 2006-09-06 17:33 .config
[06:36] <JosefK> ChrisCox: :) the next bit's kind of hackish, and not generally recommended, but you need some of the scripts it makes
[06:36] <JosefK> ChrisCox: run 'sudo make oldconfig'
[06:36] <JosefK> ChrisCox: if it asks any questions, just press return to use the default answer
[06:37] <b0ysc0ut> is it possible to add a message when u open the terminal?
[06:37] <xst> For quite some time now, totem has been shown as "upgradeable" in the upgrade manager but with "no change" request. Why is totem not beeing upgraded? (Running dapper)
[06:37] <ChrisCox> JosefK: It finished, it answered the questions itself lol
[06:37] <JosefK> b0ysc0ut: yes, add an 'echo' to the end of your .bashrc
[06:37] <remake> hey guys
[06:37] <b0ysc0ut> JosefK can u tell me how to add the echo?
[06:38] <remake> how do i make my hd's writable?
[06:38] <JosefK> ChrisCox: that's good then :) now, run 'sudo make' - and the minute it starts printing regularly formed lines with CC, or LD, hit Ctl+C
[06:38] <remake> one is ntfs
[06:38] <JosefK> b0ysc0ut: probably running 'echo echo *your message here* >> ~/.bashrc' will be enough
[06:38] <remake> and the other the linux file system whatever it is called
[06:38] <b0ysc0ut> ill try thank u
[06:39] <flo> is it possible to suppress any error output when untaring an archive?
[06:39] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I did Ctrl+C when CC started forming
[06:39] <lostfrontier> quit
[06:39] <JosefK> ChrisCox: good :) now 'cd' to where you decompressed the driver module, and try the 'sudo make config' again
[06:39] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Although 3 managed to get through
[06:40] <JosefK> ChrisCox: that doesn't really matter, we only wanted the scripts it makes at the start anyway
[06:42] <ChrisCox> JosefK: It didn't work, gave me same error as last time
[06:42] <kigh> some happy gdesklets user reading who can tell me how to group desklets? (so that they share one window/box on the desktop)
[06:42] <JosefK> ChrisCox: :/ PCMCIA's definitely enabled
[06:43] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Lemme try it with a different option
[06:43] <JosefK> ChrisCox: try 'sudo make modules_install' like magnet suggested
[06:44] <remake> i cannot seem to save anything on my harddisk. when i click on write in permissions it says the permission could not be changed...
[06:44] <remake> can anyone help?
[06:44] <Runithard> remake: are you on the livecd?
[06:44] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Where should i install lib modules to?
[06:44] <JosefK> ChrisCox: /usr/local/lib
[06:44] <ChrisCox> Ty
[06:45] <JosefK> ChrisCox: and binary files to /usr/local/bin
[06:45] <JosefK> ChrisCox: I'm just going for some food, ping me in 30 mins if it isn't working yet ^^
[06:45] <remake> no i just installed ubuntu 2 days ago
[06:45] <remake> i can save stuff on my desktop though
[06:46] <remake> which is weird
[06:46] <ChrisCox> JosefK: You gone yet?
[06:47] <etucexe> anyone wanna recommend a good samba config utility?
[06:47] <ProN00b> can i set hotkeys to switch between workspaces ?
[06:47] <iiiears> remake - Hi! Is the place you tried to save the file part of the ubuntu install or on another disk? (windows disk?)
[06:48] <ChrisCox> Can anyone override the warning 'make dep is unnessesery' and it is nessecery cos an install told me to run it!
[06:48] <iiiears> remake - wondering if the area you want to save the file to is the same disk format.
[06:49] <remake> i have a disk where i installed ubuntu which uses the linux file system, and one where i used as a back up for music and such which is in ntfs format and i cant seem to save on any of them
[06:49] <Blissex> remake: less vague...
[06:49] <remake> haha i'm sorry i'm not very technical
[06:50] <iiiears> remake - so starting with the linux formated partition. where have you tried to save a file and seen an error message?
[06:50] <remake> on the same partition i installed linux.
[06:51] <remake> but i have also tried to save a file on my old ntfs partition which didnt work either
[06:51] <remake> and the file was just a simple jpg
[06:53] <iiiears> remake - Ok. - the ntfs partition ntfsprogs to be installed so that it is writeable. (Microsoft anti-competition patent on the ntfs format.)
[06:53] <MustangMatt> hey guys, I'm running apache 2.0.55 under ubuntu and I'm getting this weird pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable error but I have no .htaccess and apache is not configured to look for one. Is this a common ubuntu problem?
[06:54] <MustangMatt> Permissions and ownership are also correct.
[06:54] <iiiears> remake - you can find ntfsprogs in the package manager "Synaptic" do a quick search
[06:54] <iiiears> !ntfsprogs
[06:54] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (dapper), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB
[06:54] <MustangMatt> I have a nearly identical setup on debian sarge with no problems.
[06:54] <iiiears> !ntfs
[06:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:55] <remake> alright guys thank you very much
[06:55] <remake> i'll try that program
[06:55] <remake> gotta go now
[06:55] <remake> bb
[06:55] <ChrisCox> !make deb
[06:55] <ubotu> make: The GNU version of the "make" utility.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.80+3.81.b4-1 (dapper), package size 279 kB, installed size 1312 kB
[06:55] <iiiears> remake - Cool
[06:55] <ChrisCox> !makedeb
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about makedeb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <ChrisCox> iiiears: Do you know anything about 'make deb'?
[06:56] <kaur_> what will i need to make ubuntu take full advantage of the intel's dual core?
[06:56] <MustangMatt> the right kernel
[06:56] <MustangMatt> which is possibly default.
[06:56] <iiiears> an smp kernel no?
[06:56] <MustangMatt> yes
[06:56] <WineO> Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update history?
[06:57] <kaur_> it is for amd's
[06:57] <kaur_> ?
[06:57] <JosefK> kaur_: there's a 686-smp kernel
[06:57] <iiiears> I got to get rid of this creaky ol' 3400 single core. - would love to have a dual or quad core machine.
[06:57] <kaur_> JosefK: i thought it only works for amd
[06:58] <ChrisCox> JosefK: HEEEELLLPPPPP!
[06:58] <JosefK> kaur_: nah, we run various linuxes on multi-core/CPU sparc, G5 boxes too, AMD don't have a monopoly on SMP
[06:58] <Netcad> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 04e6:0325 SCM Microsystems, Inc. eUSB ORCA Quad Reader <--- what /dev/ could this be?
[06:58] <sda> the WindowsDualBoot-chapter in the wiki doesn't quite cover my question, so - I ask it here :) I have installed ubuntu, and left an empty partition of 10gb for a windows-installation. now, I want to install windows and be able to dualboot. the guide only describes this when ubuntu is installed later
[06:58] <iiiears> Hi ChrisCox - stay calm - aspririn stat! - we are here to help
[06:58] <JosefK> kaur_: sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp
[06:58] <JosefK> ChrisCox: what's that infernal non-standard installer doing now? :P
[06:59] <iiiears> ChrisCox what is wrong?
[06:59] <Jonesy> sda: you're going to have to install windows to that partition and then come back and fix ubuntu's bootloader
[06:59] <kaur_> JosefK: thanks
[06:59] <Jonesy> sda; windows overwrites the boot sector without asking any questions, of course, so does ubuntu in the new edgy install cd too
[06:59] <swinchen> alright, how might I disable pcmci during boot?  I hardly need it.  Bum won't allow me.
[06:59] <HBK> how do I setup wine? someone pls help
[07:00] <sda> okay. the latter - how do I fix the bootloader? any conventional methods?
[07:00] <HBK> I downloaded it what do I run?
[07:00] <MustangMatt> if anyone is interested. It was my root directory that didn't have enough permissions. My problem is solved.
[07:00] <R3D> k guys had a raid0 set for 2 hdd everything was fine restarted sys and the hdd are not mounted anymore nor can i find them anywhere on the sys to remount
[07:00] <Jonesy> HBK: wine <file-to-execute>
[07:00] <Blissex> HBK: plenty of online tutorials, pointers in #Wine
[07:00] <iiiears> jonesy - oh no - that means my my cd game copy protection will be nuked too.
[07:00] <sda> can the ubuntu livecd be used for fixing the bootloader without crashing my ubuntusystem?
[07:00] <JosefK> sda: yes
[07:01] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Btw, i'm using Terminal to install this... Anyway, it says i need to run make dep in the linux source tree folder, but when i try to run it, i get a message say: *** Warning: make dep is unnecessary now.
[07:01] <HBK> my file to execute is in my Home Folder what command do I give for it?
[07:01] <Jonesy> sda: yes
[07:01] <iiiears> sda - yes, - rescue mode
[07:01] <JosefK> sda: just mount the drives somewhere in /mnt then chroot to it and do as you would normally
[07:01] <Jonesy> iiiears: sorry?
[07:01] <iiiears> !grub
[07:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:01] <HBK> how to execute file from the CD ROM. I want to install Max Payne
[07:01] <HBK> it is in the cd rom drive
[07:01] <JosefK> ChrisCox: that's because we cancelled the 'make' before - do 'sudo make clean && sudo make dep'
[07:02] <iiiears> jeez - every app wants a piece of the mbr record. - why can't they all just get along.
[07:02] <JosefK> iiiears: EFI here we come!
[07:02] <iiiears> lol
[07:02] <sda> so I do this: install windows on the empty partition. put livecd into tray (:P). choose rescue mode. have installer fix bootloader. right :)?
[07:02] <Jonesy> HBK: go to /media/cdrom (or wherever the cd is mounted) and try typing "wine setup.exe" or whatever the name of the install file with a .EXE extension is
[07:02] <grout_> why wont this work  rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty
[07:03] <sda> (sorry, I have to be quite certain. I'm glad about my system as it is!)
[07:03] <grout_> it says it removes the dir but it dosnt
[07:03] <JosefK> sda: yes, you can do it from rescue mode if that's easier, or it can be done when you're in the Live CD desktop too
[07:03] <Jonesy> sda: yes, and you'll have to add a boot entry for windows
[07:03] <HBK> ok I dragged and dropped the windows live messenger file in the terminal window it didnt do it
[07:03] <ChrisCox> JosefK: After the clean it still says make dep is unnessecery
[07:03] <mariux> hi the installer crashed on installing the bootloader, but i managed to boot using my old one (though im using my gentoo kernel because of it right now), how do i make it install the bootloader again?
[07:03] <JosefK> ChrisCox: if it's a warning, it should carry on processing after?
[07:04] <tore> I just upgraded to edgy, and in X dead keys and international characters no longer work.  Is there a known workaround for this problem?
[07:04] <HBK> it says wine cannot find the folder?
[07:04] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Nope, done it 4 times now, returns to chris@laptop-main etc. etc.
[07:04] <Jonesy> tore: for me, the arrow keys are acting funny while editing in VI
[07:04] <sda> I think I can manage it now. Thanks for the help!
[07:04] <iiiears> psst. - Windows needs frequent reinstalls. so what i sometimes do is to use the bios option to designate what drive is primary and secondary - the drive that is seen as primary is loaded./
[07:05] <Jonesy> HBK: run winecfg and make sure the cd drives are set up correctly
[07:05] <JosefK> ChrisCox: heh, that's because "make dep" really is unneccesary with newer kernels, it doesn't need to do anything
[07:05] <tore> Jonesy: hm, those work for me - in vim at least.
[07:05] <Tonren> How reliable is the System -> Administration -> BootUp Manager applet?  There are apps with "Activate" checked, but they're not running, and vice versa.  How do I access and change this information from the command line?
[07:05] <iiiears> linux on one drive/partiton windows on the other drive/partiion
[07:05] <Jonesy> tore: hmm, go figure
[07:06] <ChrisCox> JosefK: The install says it doesnt have a certain file in the sourcetree, it says to fix the problem to run make dep
[07:06] <tore> Jonesy: hjlk is better anyway.  ;-)
[07:06] <fiXXXerMet> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to compile dspam on ubuntu and I'm getting a bunch of errors ( http://paste.fixertec.net/47 ) any ideas?
[07:06] <Jonesy> is there a way to tell the installer for edgy on the live cd to do something special with the boot loader installation?
[07:06] <JosefK> ChrisCox: your installer isn't just for 2.4.* kernels is it? :/
[07:06] <Tonren> Jonesy: I think you can download a special "Alternate Installation" live Cd
[07:06] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Dunno
[07:06] <ubuntu4> ciao
[07:07] <Adrian2> Hi :-) On Debian 3.1 I like the expert install becaus I can do the rest of the installation over ssh remotely... is there such thing on Dapper and how would it be called?
[07:07] <Jonesy> Tonren: ok, so that's the only way, that's all i wanted to know
[07:07] <JosefK> ChrisCox: what's the name of the device you're building a driver for? (Model Number, if possible)
[07:07] <Jonesy> fiXXXerMet: are you supposed to run autogen.sh?  usually for building you type "./configure && make"
[07:07] <ChrisCox> JosefK: SparkLAN's WL-311F Wireless PCMCIA card
[07:07] <fiXXXerMet> Jonesy:  Yes, it's CVS.
[07:08] <HBK> which game can I play with wine
[07:08] <HBK> Max Payne?
[07:08] <Jonesy> fiXXXerMet: ah, then i have no idea, sorry buddy
[07:08] <Jonesy> HBK: you'll have to check wine's application compatibility database on their website
[07:08] <ChrisCox> JosefK: www.sparklan.com if you want to check it out
[07:08] <Jonesy> HBK: www.winehq.com
[07:08] <JosefK> ChrisCox: thanks, I've just found a thread on the ubuntu forums about that card, checking it out now
[07:09] <ChrisCox> JosefK: It doesnt have an answer
[07:09] <HBK> Jonesy where is the compatibilty chart I don't see it
[07:10] <Jonesy> HBK:  applications  database in the third paragraph at the top
[07:10] <Jonesy> HBK: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[07:10] <twosharp> anyone know whats the fastest and lightest graphical login manager? or do i have to use one at all? i have installed fluxbox on my server but it won't "startx" without wdm, xdm, gdm or another login manager..
[07:10] <Jonesy> HBK:  specifically for you, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=661
[07:10] <manmadha> my default sound settings are changing(Mic sound is turning off)can any one help me??
[07:11] <HBK> thank u very much!
[07:11] <Afzal> hey
[07:11] <Jonesy> HBK: np
[07:11] <Afzal> i wanna kno abt ubuntu
[07:11] <Afzal> and how similar its to windows
[07:11] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Gotta go eat, i'll be about 30 mins
[07:11] <Dummyplug> hello
[07:11] <segas> hey again, everyone.
[07:11] <segas> JosefK: are you still there?
[07:12] <Dummyplug> Can anyone help me?
[07:12] <manmadha> my default sound settings are changing(Mic sound is turning off)can any one help me??
[07:12] <JosefK> ChrisCox: okay - it looks like that card uses a PRISM 2.5 core
[07:12] <JosefK> segas: yes, what's up?
[07:12] <segas> JosefK: hey again. :)
[07:12] <segas> JosefK: it still doesnt work
[07:12] <rejden> anyone using XGL?
[07:12] <Afzal> Dummyplug : thats my question
[07:12] <HBK> damn it my cd-rom won't read crap arghh!
[07:13] <Dummyplug> I can't install Ubuntu (trying to use Instlux), and I can't find the boot.ini file
[07:13] <JosefK> segas: what doesn't, my memory's like a goldfish :/
[07:13] <segas> JosefK: after a series of installing the graphiccard successfully, I can't restart GDM. Now it says: "Starting Gnome Desktop Module ................ [fail] .
[07:13] <manmadha> my default sound settings are changing(Mic sound is turning off)can any one help me??
[07:13] <Jonesy> HBK: it's important that you make sure the path is setup in your wine config file using winecfg
[07:13] <Jonesy> hBK: go to the drives configuration page and let it autoconfigure your paths
[07:13] <JosefK> segas: ah, is this still from the LiveCD, or from an installed system?
[07:14] <segas> JosefK: liveCD i guess.
[07:14] <manmadha> my default sound settings are changing(Mic sound is turning off)can any one help me??
[07:14] <JosefK> segas: if you've rebooted, whatever fix you had for the graphics driver will have gone
[07:14] <manmadha> any one solve the prob??
[07:14] <segas> JosefK: yeah, I know..
[07:14] <HBK> wow soo many games playable wooohooo
[07:14] <segas> JosefK: so now i'm stuck in the the console, not able to do anything.
[07:15] <HBK> thank u very very much for the link jonsesy!!! :D
[07:15] <JosefK> segas: well, you have a console - you'd need to fix the graphics driver again before you can start gdm by using 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[07:15] <overridden> manmadha after configuring sound, did you try savind your session ?
[07:15] <segas> JosefK: but it is installed....or, so I think it is. I followed a link before how to activate it with the right drivers.
[07:15] <overridden> saving
[07:16] <segas> JosefK: ...since x server couldn't be started as it was.
[07:16] <JosefK> segas: yes, but if you've rebooted it won't be there anymore
[07:16] <Dummyplug> I can't install Ubuntu (trying to use Instlux), and I can't find the boot.ini file. Can anyone help me?
[07:16] <segas> JosefK: nope, so it's a dead end. :P
[07:16] <JosefK> segas: you'll have to follow the same link again
[07:16] <Jonesy> HBK: you're welcome buddy
[07:16] <segas> JosefK: ...about 15 times... :S
[07:16] <manmadha> overridden, no how to save(I am editing the sound displaying at the date & time corner there is no save option).....
[07:17] <JosefK> yes, every time you reboot, until you have an installed system (where the changes would be saved)
[07:17] <segas> JosefK: funny thing is...I had it installed before, but this error didn't occured until the system was installed, and booted up for the first time.
[07:17] <segas> JosefK: ...just before the login-thingy.
[07:18] <JosefK> segas: if you used the text-only installer, it wouldn't have been a problem
[07:18] <overridden> manmadha: System -> Preferences -> Sessions =>Automatically save changes to session
[07:19] <segas> JosefK: oh yeah....but isn't that a bit harded to install....? i mean, for a newbie like myself.
[07:19] <Dummyplug> I can't install Ubuntu (trying to use Instlux), and I can't find the boot.ini file. Can anyone help me?
[07:19] <JosefK> segas: yeah :( you'll just have to fix the graphics again and then do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[07:19] <segas> JosefK: so, this is the file I must download now? ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[07:20] <JosefK> segas: only if you want to do the text-mode install
[07:20] <segas> JosefK: i can't install it the "normal" way anyways....so i guess I have no other alternatives. *sob* :(
[07:20] <WineO> Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update history?
[07:20] <JosefK> segas: you _can_ install it the normal way, by fixing the graphics like you did before and then restarting GDM
[07:21] <atoponce> Black_Chaos: must be my client...
[07:21] <atoponce> irssi just join here, but weechat will? seems silly to me
[07:22] <atoponce> s/just join/just won't join/
[07:22] <HBK> how do I mount my game cd in wine?
[07:22] <toxic_> Is there a nice tool / any need to defrag an ext3 partition?
[07:22] <hippy> hey, guys...it was the NIC switched it out and works fine, thanks 4 the help :)
[07:22] <manmadha> overridden, can u plz tell me how to edit sound
[07:22] <segas> JosefK: i have fixed the problem, but the GDM (Gnome Desktop Manager) fails to start when I use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'".
[07:22] <HBK> Im trying to install nfs - high stakes - http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=4101
[07:23] <HBK> how do I mount my cd-rom?
[07:23] <atoponce> Black_Chaos: nope. has to be the client. i don't know anything else that it could be
[07:23] <HBK> I changed settings to Win98 by winecfg command how do I mount the cd?
[07:23] <JosefK> segas: if you haven't rebooted since you last fixed the problem, try doing 'ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep gdm'
[07:23] <JosefK> segas: any output?
[07:23] <Runithard> HBK /mount /cdrom
[07:23] <Arcad3> mount /media/cdrom0
[07:24] <Abst> Does anyone here have sauerbraten installe
[07:24] <Runithard> HBK, mount /cdrom
[07:24] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[07:24] <jacquesdupontd> im trying to make a make load on startup as root
[07:24] <jacquesdupontd> without having to do anything
[07:25] <segas> JosefK: i was getting my notes so I can write it down. :P
[07:25] <jacquesdupontd> and it seems nobody have an answer
[07:25] <JosefK> segas: ah :P
[07:25] <jacquesdupontd> some1 could be a chief by helping me ?
[07:25] <JosefK> segas: I don't need the output written down though :P
[07:26] <segas> JosefK: i can imagine..... ;) i'm currently at a linux system specialist course....trying to learn. :D need to get this baby working until tomorrow... :(
[07:26] <redloff> hi
[07:26] <redloff> does ubuntu instalator have any problems with resizing partitions?
[07:26] <JosefK> segas: ack, it's probably a simple problem like a rogue GDM in the background (and you definitely haven't rebooted since last fixing the graphics problem?)
[07:27] <redloff> I've been waiting quite a while already, and the progress bar still bounces left and right
[07:27] <redloff> no progress noticed
[07:27] <jacquesdupontd> so ? my probleme isnt interesting ? yeah i know w.... ;(
[07:28] <Dummyplug> When I try to install Ubuntu using Instlux, my laptop keeps booting up windows after I reboot. Can anyone help me?
[07:28] <jacquesdupontd> 1 hour im searching this simple thing
[07:28] <segas> JosefK: i havent, i promise.
[07:28] <JosefK> segas: just checking :P
[07:28] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: you can place scripts in /etc/rc*.d
[07:29] <HBK> ohh yess it's installing now wooohooo...can I get a hal-ay-luyah lol
[07:29] <jacquesdupontd> hm
[07:29] <segas> JosefK: here's the output: "root   5746    1 0  17:04?    00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm"
[07:29] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: where * is replaced by the default runlevel (5 I think, but it should be in /etc/rc.conf I think...)
[07:29] <jacquesdupontd> which ?
[07:29] <jacquesdupontd> rcWHICH
[07:29] <jacquesdupontd> im nebie
[07:29] <Jonesy> hal-ay-luyah
[07:29] <mbs> anyone debootstrap'd dapper remotely lately?
[07:29] <dimitri> hi all
[07:29] <HBK> woohoo thx lol
[07:29] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: that's for you to find out :)
[07:29] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[07:29] <Dummyplug> When I try to install Ubuntu using Instlux, my laptop keeps booting up windows after I reboot. Can anyone help me?
[07:29] <jacquesdupontd> hehe but tht's very cool anyway
[07:29] <dimitri> im getting a strange message when i try run gnomebaker
[07:30] <jacquesdupontd> and it will execute it as root ?
[07:30] <JosefK> segas: okay, try running 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[07:30] <jacquesdupontd> i can but cd somthing
[07:30] <jacquesdupontd> make load
[07:30] <jacquesdupontd> like that ?
[07:30] <JosefK> segas: and see if the output of that ps command is changed
[07:30] <MonsieurBon> hello
[07:30] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[07:30] <MonsieurBon> does anybody use gaim-latex and could answer a question to me?
[07:30] <HBK> hello
[07:30] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: kinda, it'll run as root - not sure if you should be doing that yet though :/
[07:30] <segas> JosefK: no problem with stopping it.
[07:30] <JosefK> segas: okay.... so 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[07:30] <jacquesdupontd> hm :(
[07:31] <Dummyplug> When I try to install Ubuntu using Instlux, my laptop keeps booting up windows after I reboot. Can anyone help me?
[07:31] <Jonesy> dummyplug: i'm not familiar with Instlux
[07:31] <jacquesdupontd> hm
[07:31] <segas> JosefK: "Starting Gnome Display Manager        [fail] ".
[07:31] <jacquesdupontd> but rcSOMTHING
[07:31] <jacquesdupontd> is a dir
[07:31] <jacquesdupontd> not a file
[07:31] <Dummyplug> ah
[07:31] <jacquesdupontd> how can i put it in it ?
[07:31] <jacquesdupontd> i juste have the commads
[07:31] <Jonesy> dummyplug: but whatever it is, if it's dependent off installing something from a CD then you need to make sure your computer's bios is set to boot from CD before booting from the internal hard drive
[07:31] <bhrobinson> does anyone know when Ubuntu package for Evolution 2.8.0 will be avail?
[07:31] <jacquesdupontd> i dont have a file
[07:32] <JosefK> segas: hmm, 'tail /var/log/messages' - see if GDM is whining about anything
[07:32] <Jonesy> dummyplug: some computers, like Dell and ASUS motherboards will let you press a button a boot to select which drive you want to boot from, for dell's it's F12 and for ASUS MB's it's F8
[07:32] <jacquesdupontd> JosefK
[07:32] <jacquesdupontd> its a folder
[07:32] <jacquesdupontd> the rc*
[07:32] <Jonesy> dummyplug: then you just select to boot from CD and you're off
[07:32] <jacquesdupontd> not a file
[07:33] <jacquesdupontd> so i cant edit it and put my commands
[07:33] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: yes, any executable files in that folder will be executed at boot
[07:33] <jacquesdupontd> hrm
[07:33] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: just make a new file and edit it - I suspect you're going to break your system though, so be it on your own head ^^
[07:33] <jacquesdupontd> i really dont know how to make executable file
[07:33] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: make it like any other text file, then 'sudo chmod 755 *filename*'
[07:33] <HumanPrototype> hi again
[07:33] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[07:33] <jacquesdupontd> i will break it ?
[07:33] <jacquesdupontd> why you think so ?
[07:34] <Tonren> How reliable is the System -> Administration -> BootUp Manager applet?  There are apps with "Activate" checked, but they're not running, and vice versa.  How do I access and change this information from the command line?
[07:34] <perigalla> ola a todos
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd> there is no way to do it when i booted
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd> just for me to do it with hands ?
[07:34] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: what are you trying to do at boot?
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd> a make load
[07:34] <perigalla> aialgioen es espaol
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd> that's is launching modules and other thing
[07:34] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: a "make load" what?
[07:34] <segas> JosefK: Gconf Server not in use, shutting down", 'else but that is only 4-5 bluetooth things listed, nothing about GDM (and I don't even have bluetooth on that machine)...
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd> for my wifi dongle to work
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd> each time i boot i need to do this make load and then my dongle drivers are ok
[07:35] <HBK> where did it install the file it says C: Program Files where is it?
[07:35] <jacquesdupontd> i would just like to have somthink that do it for me on the startup tht's all
[07:35] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: oh, just put it into a file in /etc/rc5.d/ (can somebody confirm this is the right default RC?) and 'sudo chmod 755 *filename*'
[07:35] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: yes, that's entirely correct
[07:35] <HBK> where did the game install it says C:/Program Files... where is that path?
[07:35] <xenthral> hello all
[07:36] <JosefK> segas: hmm, how does running 'startx' go
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> ok THANK YOU very much
[07:36] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: np's, come back if you have any problems
[07:36] <baskew> HBK; ~.wine maybe?
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> it can be a txt the file it will work
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[07:36] <HBK> where is the C:?
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> youre very cool
[07:36] <HBK> how can I browse it in the file browser?
[07:36] <segas> JosefK: just "startx"?
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> hm no need to put sudo make load ?
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> i juste put make load
[07:36] <JosefK> segas: yeah, just start an X session without GDM
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> will execute it as root
[07:36] <jacquesdupontd> ?
[07:37] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: yes, you'll need to put the correct command into the file
[07:37] <baskew> HBK; you would have to type the '.wine' in after ur homedir
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd> cd blabla
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd> make load
[07:37] <baskew> assuming thats where it is
[07:37] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: exactly :) everything you'd type into the terminal to make it work, goes into that file
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd> hehe ok
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd> thank you
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd> i test
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd> right now
[07:37] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Back
[07:38] <JosefK> ChrisCox: hoi - I think you're best bet with that card might be reading up on NDiswrapper, and using the windows drivers instead
[07:38] <Neo8750> is there a way to make edgy not use the firefox beta?
[07:39] <segas> JosefK: well, it started....got into the desktop screen, but i can't move my mouse or use the keyboard.....on the desktop there's two icons which are named "Examples" (with a lock on it), and another one called "Install".
[07:39] <JosefK> segas: well, I guess it's a start, but it sounds like it may have locked up
[07:39] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I don't want windows, and whats the link to ndiswrapper?
[07:39] <JosefK> segas: try pressing Ctl+Alt+Backspace
[07:39] <segas> JosefK: ok.
[07:39] <alxandra_> when installing "libdbus-1-2" with apt-get it tries to remove lots of files including the kernel. why can this be, do you have any idea?
[07:39] <mbs> anyone debootstrap'd anything lately?
[07:40] <JosefK> ChrisCox: you don't need windows to use it, ndiswrapper is just a way of using windows wireless drivers in Linux
[07:40] <rapha> Hi all!
[07:40] <segas> JosefK: it shut down.
[07:40] <trappist> mbs: I use it on new amd64 systems to make a 32bit chroot
[07:40] <Neo8750> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php
[07:40] <JosefK> segas: it should have gone straight to the console again, try pressing Alt+1
[07:40] <ChrisCox> JosefK: how do i use ndiswrapper?
[07:40] <mbs> trappist: i'm running debootstrap dapper /mnt/newos http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[07:40] <JosefK> ChrisCox: I'm just looking for an up to date guide on the ubuntu wiki
[07:40] <Neo8750> ChrisCox: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php
[07:41] <jacquesdupontd> ok lets restart
[07:41] <mbs> trappist: with limited results ... i've specified arch, and at one point it validated files, but then failed on the download of them
[07:41] <segas> JosefK: (arg: 1)
[07:41] <alxandra_> please help!! when installing "libdbus-1-2" with apt-get it tries to remove lots of files including the kernel. why can this be, do you have any idea?
[07:41] <mbs> trappist: now it's saying it can't even get the Release file
[07:41] <JosefK> segas: ah, so it was already at the console :P well, at least we know it didn't lock up
[07:41] <JosefK> segas: I think Ctl+C should get you out of that
[07:41] <eXistenZ> any good guide on shell programming?
[07:41] <trappist> mbs: what did you specify for the arch?
[07:41] <JosefK> ChrisCox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:42] <rapha> How can I configure Samba so that I can share files with a Windows computer?
[07:42] <mbs> i386
[07:42] <WineO> Quick question: how can I see synaptic/aptitude install/update history?
[07:42] <erUSUL> eXistenZ: 'bash advanced scripting guide' search in google
[07:42] <JosefK> segas: are you back to a command prompt?
[07:42] <segas> JosefK: it did.
[07:42] <segas> JosefK: yeah
[07:42] <mabus> How do I install a bittorrent client that will confirm to strict tracker's requirements? That is, I need an up to date client, and in the repos, they are not.
[07:43] <trappist> WineO: check /var/log/aptitude, for example
[07:43] <JosefK> segas: gd :) we need to find where your mouse is - is it a PS/2 mouse, laptop pad, USB or ..?
[07:43] <segas> JosefK: USB (Logitech MX500, to be exact).
[07:43] <mbs> trappist: yeah now I can't seem to get the Release file, even though it most definitely exists at the url it says it can't get it at
[07:43] <JosefK> segas: okay, try running 'sudo cat /dev/input/mice' and move the mouse around
[07:43] <reganzi> is there a way to tell if hardware is functioning when ubuntu won't detect it?
[07:44] <JosefK> segas: you should see random stuff on the screen when you move it, press Ctl+C to exit that
[07:44] <baskew> mabus: have you looked at azureus?
[07:44] <trappist> mbs: try copying your resolv.conf to the chroot's /etc directory
[07:44] <mabus> baskew: azureus in the repos is not up to date enough, nor is bittorrent
[07:44] <segas> JosefK: hang on :P
[07:44] <Weasel__> alguno de ustedes sabe o tiene idea de cuanto se necesita en memoria de video para lograr que el XGL+COMPIZ corra decentemente en un kubuntu?
[07:44] <mabus> bitme.org has strict requirements
[07:44] <JosefK> segas: okay :P if the text looks awry after that, type in 'reset' to fix the console
[07:44] <fuoco> anyone knows if gcjwebplugin works ?
[07:45] <Weasel__> anybody talk's spanish there?
[07:45] <lupine_85> !es
[07:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:45] <mbs> trappist: no go
[07:45] <Weasel__> ok, thanks!
[07:45] <Hubuntu> Creo que necesitas una nvidia o ati y al menios 32 mb de memoria de video DEDICADA
[07:45] <Weasel__> sip
[07:45] <Weasel__> bueno, tengo una ATI
[07:45] <segas> JosefK: nothing happened...i noticed the optical "light" from underneath the mouse isn't on (the red light).
[07:46] <Weasel__> es ATI RAGE XL
[07:46] <MystaMax> hey, does sound work in Firefox when using flash player 9 w/ wine?
[07:46] <JosefK> segas: ah :/ this could explain why GDM refuses to start (no input devices).  you're not using a USB Hub or anything?
[07:46] <segas> JosefK: no, not at all.
[07:46] <Weasel__> la cosa es que no se de cuanto es la mem de esa video y le monte el XGL+COMPIZ y el video es demasiado fraccionado
[07:46] <segas> JosefK: i think I have one of these converters from usb to ps2.
[07:46] <JosefK> segas: :/ and the keyboard's USB too?
[07:46] <cherubiel> guys, any idea about the OS on a WRT54G wireless router?
[07:46] <jacquesdupontd> it does nothing
[07:46] <JosefK> segas: ah
[07:46] <cherubiel> i am unable to telnet/ssh to the router
[07:47] <mbs> trappist: it doesn't want to see it even though the release file clearly exists :/
[07:47] <Hubuntu> Cuanto de memoria tienes?
[07:47] <trappist> mbs: what's the error?  404? can't connect to the server?
[07:47] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm confused...
[07:47] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: that was probably the wrong runlevel, I can't remember the way to find the correct runlevel :/
[07:47] <JosefK> segas: if you have a USB->PS/2 converter, try unplugging it and sticking it in a USB port
[07:48] <JosefK> segas: they're notorious for not working in Linux
[07:48] <Weasel__> no lo se
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch07_:_The_Linux_Boot_Process
[07:48] <Weasel__> el sistema no me dice
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> like that ?
[07:48] <mbs> E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release
[07:48] <Weasel__> esa maquina es un server
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> can you tel me which one is the good for booting
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> cuz i dont kow
[07:48] <Weasel__> es una HP proliant ml370 g4
[07:48] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: unfortunately not, you'll need a Ubuntu specific one, different distributions have different standards
[07:48] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: which is why I can never remember it :)
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[07:48] <mabus> how do I install a new version of a bittorrent client, that is newer than the ones in the repos?
[07:48] <mbs> trappist: it seems to e very trailing / sensitive
[07:49] <Hubuntu> Te entiendo... Tu rpocesador talves sea medio lento el xgl/compiz usa mucha memoria/procesador. Bajate de un repositorio/archivo
[07:49] <segas> JosefK: well, i didnt have any (my mistake), but i unplugged it, and put it back in another port......didn't work, and i got a error message.
[07:49] <mbs> trappist: i've gotten it downloading on some level using debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /mnt/xenwebserver/ ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, although if it's like previous attempts it will fail to dl some of the libs
[07:49] <trappist> mbs: that would be a server problem (unless you're saying you have an extra trailing /)
[07:49] <JosefK> segas: hmm, it's unusual for it to not like a mouse - what was the error?
[07:49] <segas> JosefK: "device not accepting address"
[07:49] <segas> JosefK: 10, 11, 10, 11....
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> hm
[07:49] <baskew> mabus: just download azureus or some other client, and install it azureus requires jaav
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> nobody know ?
[07:49] <JosefK> segas: :( my old USB hub had that problem - do you have another USB mouse handy?
[07:49] <baskew> *hava
[07:49] <baskew> *java
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> the ra level ?
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> for boot ?
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> on ubuntu  ?
[07:50] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: the multi-user runlevel
[07:50] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: which I suspect is 5
[07:50] <lupine_85> default is 2
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> that wher
[07:50] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I need help with this, I cannot understand it at all
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> weird
[07:50] <JosefK> there we go then :) move your script to /etc/rc2.d
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> i make mousepad test
[07:50] <Adrian2> Hi.. is it possible to use the dapper drake installer remotely via ssh (after the first parts have been done locally) ?
[07:50] <Dummyplug> hi
[07:50] <Hubuntu> Las ati no corren tan bien en linux... Prueba otras fuentes de xgl y ve como te va... Talves si instalas otro driver de restricted funcione
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> i wrote my commands
[07:50] <segas> JosefK: but i want this one... *sob*
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> then i make sudo chmod 755 test
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> that's ok no ?
[07:50] <segas> JosefK: let me check...
[07:50] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[07:50] <JohnFlux> I just updated to edgy ;-)
[07:50] <JosefK> segas: :/ I doubt I can debug a USB mouse problem, hopefully once you have the system installed a kernel update will fix it
[07:51] <Dummyplug> hi JohnFlux
[07:51] <JohnFlux> but I can't get X to work
[07:51] <Weasel__> ok, quiero probar
[07:51] <JohnFlux> My monitor is saying it's trying to work at 30hz
[07:51] <jeld> anyone knows why some fonts are not antialiased in Edgy and how to deal with it?
[07:51] <segas> JosefK: i had a ps2 mouse lying around...
[07:51] <Weasel__> dame los repositorios o el driver restricted
[07:51] <Dummyplug> I can't boot up Ubuntu even with the Live CD. Cany anyone help?
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> JosfK
[07:51] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I can't find where ndiswrapper is
[07:51] <Weasel__> bueno, dame referencia
[07:51] <JosefK> segas: you'd need to reboot to use a PS/2, so fixing the graphics :(
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> could you tpe jacquesdupontd
[07:51] <trappist> jeld: try in #ubuntu+1 for edgy help
[07:51] <JosefK> ChrisCox: it won't be installed by default
[07:51] <segas> JosefK: damn...
[07:51] <Weasel__> ya estoy que le vuelo el kubuntu
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> when you found it cuz i have some problems to folow text
[07:51] <ChrisCox> JosefK: It says it was on the disk
[07:52] <segas> JosefK: oh well, i'll try this later.....now my gf need this computer. thank you for helping mate! i really appreciated it!
[07:52] <mabus> !java
[07:52] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:52] <Dummyplug> I can't boot up Ubuntu even with the Live CD. Can anyone help?
[07:52] <JosefK> segas: np's :P maybe the text mode installer would be easier really
[07:52] <Weasel__> ademas, como hago para configurar los modos porque a pesar de seguir los pasos de un how-to completos, no veo nada que me permita controlar
[07:52] <mabus> !fre
[07:52] <Hubuntu> Entra a synaptic y activa restricted o sino ve a www.ubuntuguide.org eso es lo maximo
[07:52] <mabus> !jre
[07:52] <segas> JosefK: yeah...
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <segas> :P
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <Weasel__> y se me bloquearon ciertas teclas del numerico
[07:52] <ChrisCox> segas: wait a sec
[07:52] <ChrisCox> segas: You still there?
[07:53] <rapha> HELP! Can't connect Ubuntu <> Windows with SMB!
[07:53] <Hubuntu> ok?
[07:53] <A_Man_Among_Men> Ok, I have a tough question
[07:53] <docgnome> Is firestarter based on iptables?
[07:53] <Weasel__> si, creo que es usual que se bloqueen las de / y -
[07:53] <mabus> docgnome: firestarter is a gui frontend for iptables
[07:53] <JosefK> ChrisCox: to install it, do 'sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper ndisgtk' (2.1 in the FAQ I linked)
[07:53] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm totally confused
[07:53] <Dummyplug> I can't boot up Ubuntu even with the Live CD. Can anyone help?
[07:53] <Weasel__> lei algo que me decia que a veces sucedia con el kubuntu,
[07:53] <jacquesdupontd> hm
[07:53] <docgnome> mabus: thats what i thought. thanks.
[07:53] <Weasel__> y me paso a mi
[07:53] <jacquesdupontd> Josef
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> how can i find it alone ?
[07:54] <Weasel__> bueno, regreso ahorita
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> or u sure that it should run it goog ?
[07:54] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: yes?  it's /etc/rc2.d apparantly
[07:54] <bthornton> I just installed ndiswrapper on my system, installed drivers, added the necessary alias to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, and blacklisted my old drivers--yet ndiswrapper still does not load on boot.  Any ideas?
[07:54] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm a newb to Linux
[07:54] <Weasel__> debo subir a resolver un asunto de trabajo
[07:54] <A_Man_Among_Men> I took an old computer (with a brand new hard drive), installed Dapper server, installed and set up Mediawiki. It was all good. I gave it to an idiot sysadmin, and she broke it
[07:54] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: so move your script into /etc/rc2.d :)
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> i have a rs local
[07:54] <A_Man_Among_Men> She just sent me this email:
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> it could be it ?
[07:54] <A_Man_Among_Men> "The wiki pc died at some point yesterday; sys board issue.  I put the drive in another pc and start it up but it wont get into the login; it stops at cant access tty job control turned off.  Any ideas?"
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> rc.local
[07:54] <JosefK> jacquesdupontd: it would say in there, but it's /etc/rc2.d
[07:54] <Hubuntu> Yo uso ubuntu... Pero ve ke tal te va con kubuntu :) suerte
[07:54] <sanity> what package do i need to install to get the "mail" comment?
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> ok the 2
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[07:54] <A_Man_Among_Men> Does anyone have any idea what might have happened?
[07:55] <sanity> um
[07:55] <sanity> what package do i need to install to get the "mail" command?
[07:55] <bthornton> ubotu hi
[07:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[07:55] <trappist> sanity: sendmail, postfix, exim, any of those should provide mail
[07:55] <bthornton> ubotu ndiswrapper
[07:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:55] <sanity> trappist: thanks
[07:55] <JosefK> ChrisCox: I really couldn't walk you through it better than the guide (I haven't even got a PCMCIA card here), it looks to be pretty complete, but if you have any problems with a step just ask everyone here :)
[07:55] <ChrisCox> JosefK: "chris@Laptop-Main:~$ sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper ndisgtk
[07:55] <ChrisCox> Reading package lists... Done
[07:55] <ChrisCox> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:55] <Dummyplug> I can't boot up Ubuntu even with the Live CD. Can anyone help?
[07:55] <ChrisCox> Reading extended state information
[07:55] <ChrisCox> Initializing package states... Done
[07:55] <ChrisCox> Building tag database... Done
[07:55] <JosefK> ChrisCox: don't paste all that in here :(
[07:55] <ChrisCox> Couldn't find package "ndiswrapper".  However, the following
[07:55] <ChrisCox> packages contain "ndiswrapper" in their name:
[07:55] <ChrisCox>   ndiswrapper-utils ndiswrapper-modules-1.8
[07:55] <ChrisCox> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ndisgtk"
[07:55] <ChrisCox> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[07:56] <ChrisCox> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:56] <ChrisCox> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[07:56] <ChrisCox> chris@Laptop-Main:~$"
[07:56] <ChrisCox> Help???
[07:56] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: What happens when you try to boot it up?
[07:56] <Dummyplug> it starts windows
[07:56] <Hubuntu> Give the sys admin a ubuntu server cd and some wiki where she can read how to set up media wiki in the brand new hd
[07:56] <JosefK> ChrisCox: paste to a paste-bin :(
[07:56] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Sorry
[07:56] <A_Man_Among_Men> I took an old computer (with a brand new hard drive), installed Dapper server, installed and set up Mediawiki. All was good. Then I gave it to an idiot sysadmin, and she broke it. She just sent me this email: "The wiki pc died at some point yesterday; sys board issue.  I put the drive in another pc and start it up but it wont get into the login; it stops at cant access tty job control turned off.  Any ideas?" Does anyone have any idea what migh
[07:56] <JosefK> ChrisCox: follow the 'Adding Repositories Howto' link
[07:56] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: Do you want windows AND ubuntu on the same computer?
[07:56] <Roh81> Anyone think they can give me a hand remounting a hard drive?
[07:56] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: yes
[07:56] <JosefK> ChrisCox: really, everything you need is linked from that guide :/
[07:57] <ChrisCox> DummyPlug: Is your CD clean?
[07:57] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: I read that I should make some changes to a boot.ini file, but I searched for it, and it's not on my laptop
[07:57] <cvt|expert> Roh81,  on my external hd i just had to turn off and on the hd
[07:57] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: yes, freshly burned
[07:57] <ChrisCox> DummyPlug: Which file did you burn on the CD?
[07:57] <jacquesdupontd> ok rezboot
[07:57] <Hubuntu> You will have to google ndisgtk and get a repository... i think I got in universe. Activate universe under synaptic
[07:57] <A_Man_Among_Men> Anyone?
[07:58] <Roh81> Its not external. Its an internal I had to unmount to change the file system on.
[07:58] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: I burned an iso file. When I insert the CD, an Ubuntu browser auto-runs
[07:58] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: I'm on a Dell laptop, if that helps any.
[07:58] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: Does a Ubuntu menu come up or does it boot straight into Windows?
[07:59] <bless> Hi , AnyOne Can Help Me Please , I Try To run NIcotine (soulseek client) And I Cant , Yesterday All Was Ok , But Now  I Cant , Please I Need Help , Here Is The Error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22746   , THANKS!
[07:59] <covOPprometheus> hello everyone, I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i defined the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck
[07:59] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: it boots straight to windows, there aren't any boot options
[07:59] <docgnome> I'm doing internet sharing with firestarter and I'd like to set up dansguardian. I've set it up so that if the firewall is off, dans guardian works just fine on the box connected to the internet. When the firewall is on however, it doesn't work at all. I _think_ I need to set firestarter up as a transparent proxy, but I don't know how to do that. Does anyone know of a tutorial for such a thing?
[08:00] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: Have you tried an install burn? Om
[08:00] <bless> Anyone know something about my error?
[08:00] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: No, but I've tried to install it using Instlux
[08:01] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: that didn't work either.
[08:01] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: I don't think that would work
[08:01] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: My brother used Instlux to install Ubuntu on his laptop
[08:01] <Marlun> can I somehow install all the dependencies that a package has without installing the package?
[08:02] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: I would suggest, getting rid of windows (Ofcourse saving your files on a cd/floppy), installing ubuntu on the freshly cleaned pc, then installing windows from the cd
[08:02] <A_Man_Among_Men> Does anyone have any idea why moving a hard drive from one computer to another would cause this error ->"/bin/sh can-t access tty; job control turned off"
[08:02] <trappist> Marlun: you could apt-cache depends the package and install the packages from that list.  or write a script that does it.
[08:02] <bless> Hi , AnyOne Can Help Me Please , I Try To run NIcotine (soulseek client) And I Cant , Yesterday All Was Ok , But Now  I Cant , Please I Need Help , Here Is The Error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22746   , THANKS!
[08:02] <lupine_85> Marlun: just apt-get install then package then apt-get remove --purge it?
[08:03] <trappist> lupine_85: there's an idea
[08:03] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: you get that when you do what
[08:03] <lupine_85> since apt-get is generally stupid :)
[08:03] <Marlun> trappist: yeah I could do that but I thought i remembered there was a way to do what I wanted automaticlly.
[08:03] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: I'm a newb to Ubuntu aswell, so i wouldn't take my advice lol, find somone else, maybe post on the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org)
[08:03] <Hubuntu> Dummyplug maybe do it the other way. Install ubuntu from the live cd making a new partition and just use grub to choose os aty the start. I always do it that way (15 machines or so) and it has worked this far
[08:04] <lupine_85> build-dep on the source package?
[08:04] <Dummyplug> ChrisCox: All right, thanks a lot for the help!
[08:04] <ChrisCox> Dummyplug: Don't mention it
[08:04] <A_Man_Among_Men> trappist - I am not sure. I am getting this error message by email from somoene who is inompcentent
[08:04] <A_Man_Among_Men> Trappist - the machine I set up died. She transferred the hard drive to a new machine
[08:04] <cvt|expert> why isn't pastebin working for me--i have broadband?
[08:04] <A_Man_Among_Men> When she boots it, she gets that error - "cant access tty job control turned off"
[08:05] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: kind of need to know what the error is in response to
[08:05] <covOPprometheus> hello everyone, I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea?
[08:05] <A_Man_Among_Men> it occurs at boot time
[08:05] <A_Man_Among_Men> prior to a login
[08:05] <A_Man_Among_Men> oh, you mean what is the message immediately prior to that?
[08:05] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: is it the only hard drive on the system?
[08:05] <A_Man_Among_Men> It should be
[08:05] <abhinay> i got the fallowing error : Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'. when i do "gksudo gnome-theme-manager" ...
[08:05] <abhinay> Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager.
[08:06] <A_Man_Among_Men> I honestly don't know - the woman doing it is an idiot
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[08:06] <abhinay> Any Suggestions ?
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> didnt made anything
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> but then i opened test
[08:06] <A_Man_Among_Men> Trappist - why? What does that error indicate?
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> and saw that i did a bad cd
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> so the make couldnt be executed
[08:06] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: I usually see that if I su to somebody, then try to start something like screen.  I don't think I've seen it anywhere else.
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> so i putted it back the run 5
[08:06] <Hubuntu> we should really make linux a embeded paradise like the symbian os im writing from...
[08:06] <ozzloy> what gateway address should i use for my computer?  the address of the router?
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> rc5
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> lets hope
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> for me it's like it is impossible
[08:07] <covOPprometheus> ozzloy, try defining it as any
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> nothing of all what everybody told me worked
[08:07] <trappist> ozzloy: yes
[08:07] <bthornton> Logging into Ubuntu Dapper as a normal user (GNOME session) causes the following message to be printed to a terminal infinitely "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied".  Anybody else having this problem?
[08:07] <trappist> ozzloy: unless you're using dhcp
[08:07] <covOPprometheus> ozzloy, are you using wep?
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> but this wat seems cool
[08:07] <ozzloy> right now i'm using dhcp, but i want the computer to have the same ip when i reboot it
[08:07] <bthornton> I have "sudo chmod 666 /dev/null"'ed already, but the perms reset on each reboot.
[08:07] <trappist> bthornton: ls -l /dev/null
[08:08] <bthornton> trappist: Currently, they are -rw-rw-rw .
[08:08] <ckoehler> can I somehow use a edgy xen kernel on dapper?
[08:08] <trappist> bthornton: and you're still getting the error?
[08:08] <bthornton> trappist: but on reboot, they are -rw-------
[08:08] <bthornton> trappist: no
[08:08] <pornstar_> does anyone have experience with installing kildclient on dapper?
[08:08] <trappist> bthornton: is /dev/null a regular file?
[08:08] <toxic_> Is there a nice tool / any need to defrag an ext3 partition?
[08:08] <bthornton> trappist: but only because I manually reset the perms on each reboot
[08:08] <trappist> bthornton: file /dev/null
[08:08] <covOPprometheus> ozzloy, can you type in iwconfig in terminal and PM me the output?
[08:09] <bthornton> trappist: /dev/null: character special (1/3)
[08:09] <bless> Hi , AnyOne Can Help Me Please , I Try To run NIcotine (soulseek client) And I Cant , Yesterday All Was Ok , But Now  I Cant , Please I Need Help , Here Is The Error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22746   , THANKS!
[08:09] <lupine_85> toxic_: no
[08:09] <bthornton> trappist: so no
[08:09] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea?
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> JosefK
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> are you here ?
[08:09] <lupine_85> text2 is smart :)
[08:09] <lupine_85> erm, ext2
[08:09] <toxic_> lupine_85: no to there is none, or no to that there's no need for one ?
[08:09] <trappist> bthornton: well that's good - I ask because there was recently a bug where some app killed /dev/null and recreated it as a regular file
[08:09] <rapha> How do you have to configure Windows and Ubuntu so that you don't have to enter a password (doesn't work) when accessing a Windows share from Ubuntu?
[08:09] <lupine_85> toxic_: both
[08:09] <JohnFlux> Is there an edgy channel?
[08:09] <toxic_> ah ok :)
[08:09] <trappist> bthornton: unfortunately I'm not sure what's in charge of /dev/null's permissions
[08:09] <ozzloy> covOPprometheus: i'm not using wireless
[08:09] <bthornton> incidently, I have experienced this same issue on another Ubuntu box and my only guess is that a system update caused it.
[08:09] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1
[08:10] <lupine_85> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2006-05-22 15:25 /dev/null
[08:10] <bthornton> trappist: do you have any info on this bug?
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> this rc* file doesnt work at all
[08:10] <covOPprometheus> ozzloy, sorry, my fault, ifconfig then
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> it doesnt not run files i put in it
[08:10] <trappist> rapha: in your /etc/fstab put credentials=/path/to/some/file in the options section, and create that file, owned by root and mode 0600, with your username and password
[08:10] <lupine_85> jacquesdupontd: are they in the right format?
[08:10] <trappist> bthornton: no, I don't remember the app
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> its
[08:10] <lupine_85> e.g. with start, stop, sections
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> no format
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> its test
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> chmod 755
[08:10] <rapha> trappist: Huh? What has that to do with file sharing?
[08:10] <bthornton> hmm, let's see what linuxquestions sez...
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> im so sad
[08:11] <Rennen> does anyone know any issues with getting ubuntu up on a sata1 (/dev/sda) - I have tried a couple times now - thinkingn it was a bad drive - but I did a low level format on the drive and re-installed -
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> i so need it to do it
[08:11] <lupine_85> should work. Try copying any random script in /etc/init.d and modifying it to your needs, then symlinking it to the appropriate rc?.d folder
[08:11] <trappist> rapha: that way the share gets mounted automatically when you boot, without having to enter a username/password - or, are you in windows trying to mount an ubuntu share?
[08:11] <rapha> trappist: I also don't HAVE any credentials. Windows is not configured to require a password for the share -- it's public
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> i made a test without extension named test
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> then i chmod 755
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> then i tried booting with it in rc2
[08:11] <lupine_85> don't forget to give it a priority number - e.g. filename S66bobsyouruncle
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> and another time in rc5
[08:11] <ChrisCox> JosefK: I'm totally and utterly confused
[08:12] <lupine_85> (in rc?.d)
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> me ?
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> oiu
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> rc2
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> yes
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> and rc5
[08:12] <Dr-DD> hi there
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> .d
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> and nothing worked
[08:12] <Rennen> I am just getting a flashing cursor when booting past post - before I recieved grub error 15 - which I why i did a low-level format
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> ;(
[08:12] <rapha> trappist: Either way would be fine. Right now both boxes can see themselves but when you try to connect to the other it asks for username and password - which I don't have set anywhere.
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> i have the feeling that it will never work this time
[08:12] <lupine_85> jacquesdupontd: it does work
[08:12] <lupine_85> exactly what are you trying to get done?
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> first thing that is see so hard and t'hats so easy in windows
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> tu do
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> cd /blabla
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> make load
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> and it has to be as root
[08:13] <lupine_85> more flexible than windows ;)
[08:13] <trappist> rapha: that I don't know - I've never set up a wide open share like that
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> cuz i cant make sudo make load
[08:13] <lupine_85> rc*.d are run as root anyway, so no problem there
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> cuz i cant type pass
[08:13] <trappist> rapha: if no one else here knows, maybe try in #samba
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> yeah
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> so i dont know
[08:13] <docgnome> How do I save rules for iptables that I have set?
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> maybe chmod
[08:13] <lupine_85> do you want it to run at startup, or when the GUI comes up?
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> cuz when i do a ls
[08:13] <Rennen> does anyone know any issues with getting ubuntu up on a sata1 (/dev/sda) - I have tried a couple times now - thinkingn it was a bad drive - but I did a low level format on the drive and re-installed -
[08:13] <Rennen> I am just getting a flashing cursor when booting past post - before I recieved grub error 15 - which I why i did a low-level format
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> at startp
[08:14] <cynikal> Wasnt someone here trying to use instlux?
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> i dont care in fact
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> i just have to not type it
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> and neither the pass
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> to to be in root
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> its for my gf
[08:14] <Dr-DD> ppl if i want (for example) ktorrent to start when my desktop starts what do i do?
[08:14] <hsunda3> !enter
[08:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> she gonna use it and she dont know anything and i dont want here to load a shell and type things
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> its boring
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> u understand ?
[08:14] <trappist> docgnome: iptables-save > somefile
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> but i thought i would be so easy
[08:15] <trappist> jacquesdupontd: you want to be able to sudo without a password? I'm not sure I understand the question
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> when i ls
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> the rc
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> yep
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> i want to make load
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> without pass
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> not sudo
[08:15] <yamal> s
[08:15] <yamal> t
[08:15] <yamal> o
[08:15] <yamal> p
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> i want to be inr root
[08:15] <yamal> that
[08:15] <angel_> I have problem with my dvd , only i can use the first time when I turn on the computer and the dvd disk  is inside but when i change that dvd disk for other dvd the computer  can't read it
[08:15] <trappist> !enter
[08:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:15] <Hubuntu> Rennen i had a problem on a server once. I think you have to make a change in the way the BIOS treats the SATA disk. i made a little chance and everything went fine.
[08:15] <Dr-DD> ppl if i want (for example) ktorrent to start when my desktop starts what do i do?
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> wow
[08:15] <jacquesdupontd> you've understood ?
[08:16] <rapha> trappist: okay, thanks
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> i dont want to type pass
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> but it has to be executed as root
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> that's all
[08:16] <trappist> jacquesdupontd: you will have to use sudo, but you can do it without having to enter a password.  is that what you want?
[08:16] <lupine_85> jacquesdupontd: /etc/rc?.d are run as root anyway
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> yep
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> i want that my girl friend dont to anything
[08:16] <darnell> is there any other proggy that will access my ipod instead of gtkpod?
[08:16] <lupine_85> so that's not a problem - you've just got something set up wrongly somewhere
[08:16] <Rennen> Hubuntu: It is a brande new board.  BIOS knows it is the first disk to boot to - it just won't boot ....
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> hm ok
[08:16] <darnell> when i plug in my ipod it doesnt show up on my desktop
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> is it normla
[08:16] <Dr-DD> ppl if i want (for example) ktorrent to start when my desktop starts what do i do?
[08:16] <darnell> and gtkpod doesnt see it
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> that when i ls in a rc*.d file
[08:17] <rapha> trappist: you know, what wonders me most is that normally, a friend comes to my place, I just enter the name of his share, and it works. No probs at all. Now I set up my own Windows box and it doesn't work :(
[08:17] <docgnome> does anyone know what file firestarter looks at for iptables rules when it starts up?
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> my file is in a different cokir
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> color
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> color dont depend of the chmod ?
[08:17] <trappist> jacquesdupontd: sudo visudo - in there, change your line to look like this: username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:17] <lupine_85> so... first, make sure that your script follows convention. Secondly, make sure that it's in /etc/init.d and thirdly: make sure that the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/ is of the form SnnNAME and chmod 755
[08:17] <Dr-DD> :|
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> wow i dont underand
[08:17] <Dr-DD> anser me
[08:17] <Dr-DD> please
[08:17] <Dr-DD> ppl if i want (for example) ktorrent to start when my desktop starts what do i do?
[08:17] <lupine_85> trappist: not needed
[08:17] <kaolti> what is the command to reconfigure the x window system
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> in init ?
[08:18] <jariep1_> Dr-DD, I have noticed that when you leave an app open when you shutdown KDE, it remembers it and restarts it on bootup, though this doesn't really answer your in the best way
[08:18] <lupine_85> also not recommended ;)
[08:18] <trappist> Dr-DD: make a script or .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:18] <trappist> jacquesdupontd: run 'sudo visudo' in a console
[08:18] <Dr-DD> tnx
[08:18] <ChrisCox> JosefK: You there?
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> i have to put it in init.d ?
[08:18] <darnell> alternative to gtkpod?
[08:18] <A_Man_Among_Men> Trappist - aha
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[08:18] <Dr-DD> tnx trappist
[08:18] <A_Man_Among_Men> "alert! /dev/hdc/doesn't exist - dropping
[08:18] <A_Man_Among_Men> to shell.
[08:18] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: whatcha got
[08:18] <jariep1_> Dr-DD trappist makes a good suggestion
[08:18] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: ha
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> and ?
[08:18] <A_Man_Among_Men> So what does that indicate exactly?
[08:18] <trappist> jacquesdupontd: then do the other thing I said
[08:18] <A_Man_Among_Men> What changed?
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> bu whyt i had
[08:19] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: the way the drive was connected.  it's probably like /dev/hdd now.
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> to run sudo
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> visudo
[08:19] <A_Man_Among_Men> trappist - What do you mean?
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> cuz now i cant move
[08:19] <bless> Hi , AnyOne Can Help Me Please , I Try To run NIcotine (soulseek client) And I Cant , Yesterday All Was Ok , But Now  I Cant , Please I Need Help , Here Is The Error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22746   , THANKS!
[08:19] <trappist> jacquesdupontd: you will always have to run sudo.  I'm helping you to be able to do it without entering a password.
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> and do what uve said
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[08:19] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: I mean that drive is no longer hdc, apparently
[08:19] <A_Man_Among_Men> it's being mounted under a differnet name now - why?
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> u mean for the next reboot ?
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> i hope
[08:19] <lupine_85>  trappist: not for scripts run by /sbin/init you don't
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> ok so now i ve run exactly sudo visudo
[08:20] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: hdc isn't where it's mounted, it's the device name - hdc is secondary master
[08:20] <kaolti> anybody know how to reconfigure x11?
[08:20] <kaolti> pls
[08:20] <A_Man_Among_Men> OH, so it's a jumper setting issue?
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> lupine_85 ?
[08:20] <trappist> lupine_85: eh?
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> i put it in init ?
[08:20] <erUSUL> kaolti: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:20] <Dr-DD> trappist: ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:20] <trappist> jacquesdupontd: you don't have to reboot
[08:20] <lupine_85> he's trying to get a script in /etc/init.d working
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> i dont know what to follow now
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> it goes to fast
[08:20] <lupine_85> you don't need sudo for that
[08:20] <Dr-DD> trappist: ~/.kde/Autostart this folder does not exist, i creatit right?
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> can some1 pv me ?
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> pm
[08:20] <jacquesdupontd> just for a sec
[08:21] <jacquesdupontd> then it will be ok
[08:21] <trappist> Dr-DD: it should exist.  but if it doesn't, yes.
[08:21] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[08:21] <A_Man_Among_Men> Trappist - so what's the easy fix here?
[08:21] <jacquesdupontd> so what i do
[08:21] <kaolti> hey nobody can help?
[08:21] <jariep1_> kaolti, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 , at least that's the configuration file in my debian system
[08:22] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: the only easy fix is for that drive to be connected the same way it used to be
[08:22] <kaolti> yes but there is reconfigure command
[08:22] <kaolti> i just cant remember it
[08:22] <kaolti> something like dpkg
[08:22] <kaolti> ...
[08:22] <kaolti> :(
[08:22] <A_Man_Among_Men> Trappist - I don't follow - what do you mean when you say "the same way"?
[08:22] <lupine_85> dpkg-reconfigure xseserver-xorg-core ?
[08:22] <lupine_85> xserver, rather
[08:22] <kaolti> yes i think
[08:22] <kaolti> i'll try it thanks
[08:22] <angel_> i try to mount my dvd but "The system reported: mount: No medium found"
[08:22] <trappist> A_Man_Among_Men: if it used to be primary master, it needs to be that way on this machine too
[08:22] <A_Man_Among_Men> Ah, ok
[08:22] <A_Man_Among_Men> And hdc is primary master?
[08:23] <lupine_85> secondary master
[08:23] <A_Man_Among_Men> Ok
[08:23] <A_Man_Among_Men> Thanks
[08:23] <LadyNikon> hmm
[08:23] <Hubuntu> Kaolti to reconfigure X is a serious thing to do use
[08:23] <Hubuntu> dpkg xserver-xorg --reconfigure
[08:23] <Hubuntu> remember that you better be careful with the answers you give it, ok?
[08:23] <Dr-DD> trappist: how do i know the path for my program? how to see "details" on a shortcut of the "start" menu?
[08:23] <jariep1_> kaolti, I think you're right
[08:23] <jariep1_> give me a sec
[08:23] <ozzloy> covOPprometheus: i got it working
[08:24] <ozzloy> covOPprometheus: thanks!
[08:24] <jariep1_> yes that's it what Hubuntu recommends
[08:24] <trappist> Dr-DD: I don't know, in gnome
[08:24] <Dr-DD> trappist: tnx anyway
[08:24] <angel_> i only can use the dvd for the first time i turn on the computer
[08:25] <angel_> after that "The system reported: mount: No medium found"
[08:25] <kaolti> root@kaolti-desktop:~# dpkg xserver-xorg --reconfigure
[08:25] <kaolti> dpkg: need an action option
[08:25] <lupine_85> angel_: for whatever reason it's not seeing the second and subsequent DVDs
[08:25] <kaolti> ?
[08:25] <lupine_85> use dpkg-reconfigure
[08:26] <A_Man_Among_Men> Trappist - Thanks a bunch
[08:26] <kaolti> like "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[08:26] <lupine_85> eg. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:26] <Hubuntu> Tru sudo dpkg...
[08:26] <kaolti> :)
[08:26] <kaolti> k
[08:26] <angel_> yes
[08:26] <lupine_85> that's it
[08:26] <kaolti> yea
[08:26] <jonass> I use a linux box with iptables to SNAT my local network to the internet, but can't get it to forward ports from the internet to an local machine like: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $INET_IP -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT \
[08:26] <jonass> --to-destination $HTTP_IP
[08:26] <jonass> ideas ?
[08:26] <angel_> how to fix that problem
[08:27] <lupine_85> angel_: sounds like a hardware fault to me
[08:27] <antoxz> jonass you don't need to do that
[08:27] <winston> I got a weird bug since yesterday... you're probably gonna laugh but here goes... the shortcut to AisleRiot Solitaire now launches Freecell Solitaire. Anyone know how this could happen or how to fix the link in the menu
[08:27] <kaolti> it says that my video hardware is not supported. should i choose the vesa driver?
[08:27] <Skyrail> cna anyone help me with this thing in the installation of ubuntu?
[08:27] <jonass> antoxz, not ?? how do I do port forwarding then ??
[08:27] <angel_> ok
[08:27] <angel_> thank
[08:27] <kaolti> the video chipset manufacturer does not have ubuntu drivers
[08:27] <RedRose> how can I edit the ACPI to allow for lower monitor brightness?
[08:28] <rofl0r> RedRose, you could use the gamma settings, that darkens te screen aswell
[08:28] <Dr-DD> trappist: sory to ask again but the .kde/Autoexec folder isnt only for kde? since i have gnome will it autostart my program?
[08:29] <RedRose> rofl0r, what's the command, and will it save power?
[08:29] <trappist> Dr-DD: oh, sorry, you're right - I thought I was in #kubuntu :)  I don't know how it's done in gnome
[08:29] <Dr-DD> trappist: tnx anyway :)
[08:29] <rofl0r> redrose, its in settings/display, but i dont think it saves power
[08:29] <Skyrail> I have a query about the installation of ubuntu...
[08:30] <lupine_85> !ask
[08:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:30] <RedRose> rofl0r, yeah, that's my problem is that in ubuntu, i lost about an hour power because of the monitor
[08:30] <darnell> HELP with ipod please
[08:30] <darnell> doesnt anyone here have one?
[08:30] <lupine_85> darnell: put it on eBay and get an iRiver instead?
[08:30] <kaot> jonass: that rule looks like it should work.
[08:30] <Dr-DD> <--- need autostart programs in gnome desktop.
[08:30] <Dr-DD> <--- need autostart programs in gnome desktop. any one can help?
[08:30] <kaot> jonass: is there anything else in your PREROUTING chain?
[08:30] <darnell> fuck iriver
[08:31] <antoxz> jonass, I'm sorry, I had misunderstood you :/ is your FORWARD chain ok? maybe it is blocking smth?
[08:31] <lupine_85> !language
[08:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:31] <darnell> its kubuntu thats the problem
[08:31] <darnell> it worked fine with gnome
[08:31] <Skyrail> mkay sorry, its just that I started the installation, and I asked it to wipe the harddrive, I clicked on next and the waiting curser came up and its been like that for the past half hour...is this normal?
[08:31] <lupine_85> Skyrail: it can take a while... but half an hour could be excessive
[08:31] <bless> Hi , AnyOne Can Help Me Please , I Try To run NIcotine (soulseek client) And I Cant , Yesterday All Was Ok , But Now  I Cant , Please I Need Help , Here Is The Error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22746   , THANKS!
[08:31] <rofl0r> RedRose, one hour per month ?
[08:31] <piet_> howto install java for ubuntu Dapper Drake
[08:31] <Dr-DD> <--- need autostart programs in gnome desktop. any one can help?
[08:32] <Skyrail> lupine_85 ok, I'll guess I'll cancel it and restart the installation :(
[08:32] <DrColossus> Dr-DD: system -> preferences -> sessions ?
[08:32] <RudyValencia> !samba
[08:32] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:32] <RedRose> rofl0r, No, sorry, i'm running on my laptop and I lost an hour battery life because of the monitor brightness
[08:32] <Max_Steel> we need java 64 bits :/
[08:32] <rofl0r> RedRose, mmh k ;)
[08:32] <lupine_85> if it fails again, you might be best wiping the hard drive manually (fdisk in terminal) and trying again
[08:33] <Dr-DD> DrColossus: tnx alot
[08:33] <roh_> I really need some help remounting my ide hard drive
[08:33] <jonass> antoxz, hmmm my forward chain is default to DROP.. do I have to open the port in the forwarding chain then ??
[08:33] <DrColossus> Dr-DD: np
[08:33] <Dr-DD> DrColossus: how do i see the shortcut url of an item in the menu?
[08:33] <lupine_85> roh: "sudo umount <devicefile>; sudo mount <devicefile>"? (assuming it's in your fstab and isn't your /)
[08:33] <Dr-DD> you know?
[08:34] <roci> hola
[08:34] <jonass> antoxz, tested to open the port in the forward chain.. it worked, thx =)
[08:34] <roh_> lupine_85 I think we tried that last night but it wouldnt remove it properly.
[08:34] <roh_> let me try again
[08:34] <antoxz> jonass, you're welcome :)
[08:34] <DrColossus> Dr-DD: i don't understand what you mean
[08:34] <lupine_85> make sure you don't have any files open on it or anything before you umount
[08:34] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea? please PM me
[08:35] <roh_> Its kinda mounted inside of my main drive.
[08:35] <lupine_85> that includes sitting in /path/to/mount/point while running umount :)
[08:35] <roh_> but the only thing i have open is kde and xchat now.
[08:35] <Skyrail> lupine_85 must of been an error, It worked quickly this time, loaded the next screen quickly and let me continue
[08:35] <lupine_85> skyrail: cool
[08:35] <roh_> Wait so I unmount the name or the actual hard drive?
[08:35] <lupine_85> roh_: should unmount fine then... and if it doesn't, it'll tell you why
[08:35] <Dr-DD> DrColossus: i have internet >> ktorrent shotcut in my menu. i want to put it on autostart. how do i find the path of the bin?
[08:35] <lupine_85> roh_: if it's in your fstab it doesn't really matter
[08:36] <roh_> lemme try then
[08:36] <roh_> so if it was hda i would just replace drivefile with hda?\
[08:37] <Dr-DD> DrColossus: never mind that :)
[08:37] <Dr-DD> found the anser
[08:37] <roh_> damnit... said its not found...
[08:37] <DrColossus> Dr-DD: ok :)
[08:37] <knittl> any german speaking users online??
[08:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[08:37] <lupine_85> roh_: yes - the name of the device file for the partition you're trying to mount. e.g. /dev/hda1
[08:38] <lupine_85> !de
[08:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:38] <moleman5> #list
[08:38] <roh_> Well as I mounted it I named it storagedrive
[08:38] <knittl> danke, thanks
[08:38] <Dr-DD> knittl: try #ubunto-<your contry tld>
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm not up-to-date on CD/DVD burners.  Can Linux work with a "Lightscribe" CD/DVD burner?
[08:38] <lupine_85> program Hello; Uses System; begin Writeln('Hello World');end.
[08:39] <lupine_85> EnsignRedshirt: it'll work with any semi-modern burner
[08:39] <roh_> lupine_85 Can I just manually unmount it from fstab? Or does that not fully unmount it?
[08:39] <EnsignRedshirt> lupine_85: Does that include writing the graphics onto the CD?
[08:39] <heeehoww> does anyone here use Serpentine?
[08:39] <moparfan90> hello. on the new release on ubuntu do they include the newest ATI drivers?
[08:40] <rofl0r> moparfan90, you can use easyubuntu for that
[08:40] <moparfan90> whats easy ubuntu
[08:40] <Homer> apt-get install easyubuntu?
[08:40] <moparfan90> im not in linux right now
[08:40] <rofl0r> moparfan90, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[08:41] <DethKlok> How would I change my TTY1 shell to have a different resolution?
[08:41] <lupine_85> EnsignRedshirt: not sure what you mean by that. as in printing?
[08:41] <Hubuntu> Easyubuntu can bring you trouble... Try www.ubuntuguide.org for step-by-step explanations
[08:41] <redloff>  I try to print from an old dos program on my cups laserjet printer. how can I check if does sees this printer correctly? It doesn't print and I don't know if it's the dosemu.conf fault or the emulated program itself
[08:41] <lupine_85> roh_: if you want to use the short form, it needs to be present in your fstab
[08:41] <Homer> easy ubuntu is illegal :D
[08:41] <rofl0r> eh eh
[08:41] <lupine_85> if it isn't, then umount will work fine, but you'll need to expand the mount command ot include type and mountpoint
[08:41] <mbs> trappist: my nameservers were set up on the base machine :)
[08:41] <moparfan90> does anyone here run cs 1.6 on ubuntu?
[08:41] <lupine_85> Homer: yes - microsoft will sulk at you if you're not careful ;)
[08:41] <EnsignRedshirt> lupine_85: Yes.  Sorry, I've never used a lightscribe dvd burner.  I mean printing on the surface of the dvd.
[08:42] <lupine_85> That depends on your printer driver, I gues :)
[08:42] <roh_> lupine_85 I need to get this drive properly mounted again so I can save files before formating. I unmounted it lastnight so I could format it but... I dont think I did it properly.
[08:42] <lupine_85> check www.linuxprinting.org
[08:42] <Homer> there isn't a package for easyubuntu?
[08:42] <lupine_85> roh_: does it show up when you run mount -l ?
[08:42] <EnsignRedshirt> lupine_85: Was that for me?
[08:42] <Tokyo> ter has left the channel ("Read error: Connection reset by peter")
 hey there ! if you need a little tip how to legaly and for free get mailserver+webmail+mc'afee  that coasts 300$ , just ask :)
[08:42] <rofl0r> Homer, no, floow the instructions on the site
[08:43] <rofl0r> follow
[08:43] <roh_> lupine_85 I dont know. Im a very new linux user.
[08:43] <santa99> mna ?
[08:43] <lupine_85> EnsignRedshirt: this was... "[19:42]  <lupine_85> That depends on your printer driver, I gues :)"
[08:43] <JohnFlux> is there a channel for edgy users?
[08:43] <lupine_85> roh_: pastebin the output of the command and we can take a look
[08:43] <lupine_85> JohnFlux: #ubuntu+1#
[08:43] <santa99> !multimedia
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies | For multimedia applications, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:43] <lupine_85> erm, - the #
[08:43] <Tokyo> Disclamer : To help ppls to not couse any troubles (soory for my english) :
[08:43] <Tokyo> OK , there's a tip , how you can avoid a big troubles , never do the things like that
[08:43] <Tokyo> even if you want good mailserver for mac with free MC'afee avp and webmail :
[08:43] <Tokyo> do NOT  download kerio mailserver 6.0.3 from http://download.kerio.com/archive/
[08:43] <Tokyo> then dont turn your system date few years forward and dont install it
[08:43] <Tokyo> then dont create  user accounts and do not set all settings
[08:43] <Tokyo> and then NEVER , I repeat NEVER turn back date in a real time !!!
[08:43] <Tokyo> Just buy kerio ! it's cool those 300 $
[08:43] <roh_> lupine_85 Im very new to linux. What is the exact command you want to see?
[08:44] <EnsignRedshirt> lupine_85: Ah, but I'm talking about a DVD burner that can also burn an image into the disk, not a printer.
[08:44] <quiet> lightscribe
[08:44] <RudyValencia> I'm having nothing but trouble with samba under ubuntu dapper. :(
[08:44] <DethKlok> Anyone know how to change shell resolution?
[08:44] <Homer> does easyubuntu work with all ubuntu distros?
[08:44] <santa99> bist du da ?
[08:44] <EnsignRedshirt> quiet:  Right
[08:44] <santa99> are you in here ?
[08:44] <quiet> what about it?
[08:44] <Arutha> "EasyUbuntu works on (X/K)ubuntu and on all the three architectures (x86, AMD64 and PPC)."
[08:44] <moparfan90> #ubuntu+1#
[08:44] <moparfan90> ops
[08:45] <EnsignRedshirt> quiet: Does it work with Linux/Ubuntu? Does it require special software?
[08:45] <lupine_85> EnsignRedshirt: in that case I have no idea if it'll work
[08:45] <Hubuntu> Baning tokyo maybe?
[08:45] <quiet> i'm not positive.. but i'll check.. my best friend has one... i'm not sure if he uses it under linux or windows..
[08:45] <santa99> raphael, lets write in here
[08:45] <etam> hi
[08:45] <raphael> shi
[08:45] <raphael> hi
[08:45] <moparfan90> is there a channel for linux gaming?
[08:46] <santa99> !multimedia > raphael
[08:46] <Homer> x86 is background competable with x86-64 right?
[08:46] <roh_> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:46] <roh_> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[08:46] <roh_> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[08:46] <roh_> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[08:46] <roh_> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[08:46] <roh_> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[08:46] <roh_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[08:46] <roh_> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[08:46] <raphael> has anybody mp3 and video codecs for dapper drake 6.06?
[08:46] <roh_> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[08:46] <roh_> lupine_85 there it is
[08:46] <lupine_85> !pastebin > roh_
[08:46] <Hubuntu> Raphael try www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:46] <raphael> thx
[08:47] <lupine_85> roh_: looks like just / is mounted so your HD partition isn't
[08:47] <etam> can You tell me why when my script is in runlevels 2, 3, 4, 5 it can not read files from disk? can I run it later than runlevel 2, 3, 4, 5?
[08:47] <Homer> x86 is background compatable with x86-64 right?
[08:47] <roh_> But this darn gui disk manager is showing it as having a path. Doesnt that mean its mounted lupine_85?
[08:47] <Homer> backward
[08:48] <Arutha> erm..
[08:48] <lupine_85> roh_: probably not... it means the GUI disc manager doesn't have a clue, I'd imagine
[08:48] <Runithard> Homer:sort of
[08:48] <roh_> lol big surprise
[08:48] <Runithard> Homer: not kernel level stuff
[08:48] <roh_> lupine_85 Any chance you can help me remount it then?
[08:49] <lupine_85> just "sudo mount /dev/<devicefile> -t <type> /path/to/mountpoint"
[08:49] <lupine_85> should work fine
[08:49] <roh_> Lets see if I cant manage it.
[08:49] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea? please PM me
[08:49] <etam> can I run script after runlevel 2, 3, 4, 5?
[08:50] <roh_> lupine_85 Is <type> supposed to be the file system or just as it is?
[08:50] <lupine_85> whatever the type is
 means mandatory parameter
[08:50] <roh_> No idea what that means.
[08:50] <lupine_85> ([]  = optional parameter)
[08:50] <Homer> Runithard, so a x86 driver wouldn't work in a x86-64 desktop?
[08:50] <lupine_85> means you have to replace it with the right value :)
[08:51] <roh_> lol I have no idea what that is. Define "type"
[08:51] <lupine_85> ext2, vfat, ext3, reiserfs...
[08:51] <segas> JosefK: Hey! It worked! :)
[08:51] <ckoehler> how much difference is there between debian and ubuntu with just CLI?
[08:51] <roh_> thats what I call a file system. cool. Do I need the <>
[08:51] <lupine_85> Homer: almost definitely not
[08:51] <lupine_85> roh_: no
[08:51] <lupine_85> ckoehler: "some"
[08:52] <ckoehler> apt repos mainly?
[08:52] <lupine_85> debian seems to have a greater variety of packages ;)
[08:52] <lupine_85> but then, ubuntu seems easier to keep ticking over
[08:52] <ckoehler> yeah I have that impression
[08:52] <ckoehler> trying to find more info on how to use ubuntu as guest OS on Xen
[08:53] <ckoehler> my ignorance scares me :)
[08:53] <roh_> It seems to have mounted. I hope I can actually copy files to it now.
[08:53] <lupine_85> isn't that meant to be as easy as pie in Edgy?
[08:53] <lupine_85> (would be good if it is!)
[08:54] <lupine_85> mostly just a custom kernel though, AIUI
[08:54] <ckoehler> yeah, Edgy
[08:54] <ckoehler> still running Dapper though
[08:55] <krazykit> now then, is it just me, or are the ubuntu builds of amarok 1.4.1+ rather prone to crashing?
[08:55] <ckoehler> lupine_85, you're right though, custom kernel should do it
[08:55] <lupine_85> krazykit: running 1.4.2 here and not a single crash
[08:55] <ckoehler> have just never done that before
[08:55] <roh_> lupine_85 It appears in mount -l now but i cant seem to right to it. :.(...
[08:55] <quiet> EnsignRedshirt, he said that he uses his ligtscribe burner under windows, hasn't even tried it under linux, so doesn't know how compatible it is.
[08:55] <krazykit> lupine_85: using the xine engine?
[08:55] <lupine_85> roh_: you will probably need to write as root
[08:55] <lupine_85> krazykit: that's the only one left now
[08:55] <EnsignRedshirt> quiet: Thanks for checking.  I'll do some googling.
[08:56] <krazykit> hum.
[08:56] <joachim-n> is there a way to find terminal commands in the history starting with a particular letter?
[08:56] <lupine_85> it plays constantly - up for 72 hours right now - and like I say, not a single crash
[08:56] <roh_> lupine_85 I honestly dont know the term command to copy files.
[08:56] <krazykit> lupine_85: interesting.  mine sometimes freezes after playing a file, or freezes while paused.  i can't figure out what triggers it.  it happens on 2 different machines running pretty much the same stuff
[08:56] <krazykit> roh_: cp
[08:56] <hubuntu_______> cp is copy :)
[08:56] <muhammad> heey  i have mounted an iso file and its workin fine but every time i do restarting i must remount again the iso file how can i save the mount into fstab ?
[08:56] <roh_> x_x thanks fellas. I hate being a newb.
[08:57] <RudyValencia> I'm having problems with samba in ubuntu dapper - my Windows XP Professional machine can't connect to it, even though I edited smb.conf to have "workgroup = WORKGROUP".
[08:57] <roh_> Thats what I get for waisting years getting good with windows.....
[08:57] <lupine_85> joachim-n: cat ~/.bash_history |<some clever console wizardry>
[08:57] <rapha> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH that cannot be possible that I'm the only person wanting to connect Windows and Ubuntu???
[08:57] <hubuntu_______> rudy is it a server you have installed or a samba share on a desktop?
[08:57] <joachim-n> lupine_85: ah. I though there was some way I could start typing a command and then find previous ones that matched
[08:57] <RudyValencia> I am setting up the Ubuntu computer to be the server.
[08:58] <hubuntu_______> rapha server or desktop /(ubuntu)
[08:58] <hubuntu_______> ?
[08:58] <rapha> hubuntu_______: Desktop
[08:58] <hubuntu_______> ok
[08:58] <lupine_85> joachim-n: never heard of a way to do that. would be handy though, I agree
[08:58] <hubuntu_______> you made a share for windows on ubuntu, right?
[08:58] <krazykit> joachim-n: i think you'll want some combination of sed and grep, and i'm not familiar enough with sed to tell you how
[08:58] <quiet> EnsignRedshirt, looks like they are tryig to get the functionality built into k3b... but it'll probably be a while.
[08:58] <RudyValencia> O
[08:58] <moparfan90> is there a change log for 6.06.1
[08:58] <moparfan90> or what ever it is
[08:58] <rapha> hubuntu_______: actually, I'm trying it both ways. I have a share on each box. Both require a password when trying to connect from the other box, but I've not set a password anywhere.
[08:58] <NordicThor> how do i connect as a super user?
[08:58] <hubuntu_______> :)
[08:59] <EnsignRedshirt> quiet: Yup... I found a thread in the forums about it.  Looks like I won't bother buying one.
[08:59] <RudyValencia> I'm trying to set up the Ubuntu box to provide a share for the Windows box to access.
[08:59] <NordicThor> how do i connect as a super user?
[09:00] <Hubuntu> ok... set up samba and the go to www.ubuntuguide.org if it's  a server you want
[09:00] <hsunda3> Is there anyway I can find out what are the volume labels, or what partition has been mounted under what label using the command line?
[09:00] <GaiaX11> Which is the best laptop to install ubuntu with wireless? I mean the best brand
[09:00] <RudyValencia> I see the server but I double-click it and I get a message saying "access denied".
[09:00] <Hubuntu> if it is just a share wel.. That I have not tried, but I guess you will have to add users and give access on the samba config file
[09:01] <krazykit> GaiaX11: it's hard to know what kind of wireless card a laptop will have... one dell model alone has 4 different cards that it could be
[09:01] <Hubuntu> from windows?
[09:01] <Hubuntu> youo see the server from windows?
[09:01] <RudyValencia> Hubuntu: Ye
[09:01] <RudyValencia> *Yes
[09:01] <roh_> I still cant manage to copy the directories I want....
[09:01] <Hubuntu> ok... then, on windows, try to mount the share as a network driver using the user name and apssword you have in ubuntu
[09:01] <Set_Killer> hey, i`m using ubuntu amd64 and the sound is VARY bad. why ? and how can i fix that problem ?
[09:02] <RudyValencia> But when I double click it I get "\\Server is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to fiind out if you have access permissions. Access is denied."
[09:03] <earthian> hello
[09:03] <Set_Killer> hi
[09:03] <Hubuntu> given, of course, that you have given samba the network user access... I managed to figure it out with www.ubuntuguide.org, it may look like im advertisingm but im not, I just think it is a good resource for newbies :)
[09:03] <kishore> hi
[09:03] <GaiaX11> krazykit: If i buy one of them, how do I know if the card is compatible with ubuntu beforehand? This could avoid buying one that has a non-compatible ubunto wireless card.
[09:03] <kishore> i hav just turned on to swiftfox..
[09:03] <Hubuntu> log in as another user, is an option under windows...
[09:03] <kishore> from fire fox
[09:04] <kishore> Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/share/pixmaps/swiftfox.png" (Permission denied)
[09:04] <Hubuntu> ansd try again
[09:04] <Set_Killer> hey, i`m using ubuntu amd64 and the sound is VARY bad. why ? and how can i fix that problem ?
[09:04] <skipp_OSX> how do turn off shadow passwd in Ubuntu... need to do it for nis
[09:04] <raphael> has anybody made packet injection with ipw2200?
[09:04] <Hubuntu> rapha... have you gotten an answer yet?
[09:04] <raphael> yes, thx
[09:04] <krazykit> GaiaX11: the problem is, you really can't.  it's a matter of brand.  you can check out the ubuntu wiki for the laptop, but i don't know how else to find out, short of calling the company...
[09:04] <kishore> gettign error like this whn tried to open applications->internet->swiftfox
[09:04] <rapha> Hubuntu: about samba stuff? nope...
[09:04] <krazykit> GaiaX11: though i'm considering buying a better-supported mini-pci card.  they're like 20 bucks
[09:04] <kishore> Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/share/pixmaps/swiftfox.png" (Permission denied) this was the error message
[09:05] <Set_Killer> may someone help me?
[09:05] <Hubuntu> what is the problem? you manage to see the share from windows?
[09:05] <RudyValencia> Again: I see the icon representing \\Server but when I double click it I get "\\Server is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to fiind out if you have access permissions. Access is denied."
[09:06] <kishore> help needed
[09:06] <rapha> Hubuntu: I'm not seeing it, but I can try to map it. But it doesn't accept the username/password I have under Ubuntu.
[09:06] <Hubuntu> I think you need to make some changes at the samba.config
[09:06] <Hubuntu> but, you see the share when maping?
[09:06] <rapha> Hubuntu: what shall I enter into it?
[09:07] <krazykit> kishore: it's a hack, but you can change the permissions.  777 would probably fix it, but it's not really a good idea to chmod stuff 777...
[09:07] <rapha> Hubuntu: No, I don't see my Ubuntu computer in Windows.
[09:07] <Hubuntu> ok...
[09:07] <Hubuntu> you should be able to see it
[09:07] <rapha> What's wrong then?
[09:07] <Hubuntu> try: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[09:07] <GaiaX11> krazykit: I've never opened a laptop to check if it has slots for a new wireless card. But, is it possible to buy the card and install on the motherboard as it is possible in a PC?
[09:07] <Hubuntu> on the ubuntu machine
[09:08] <linuchsan> Hubuntu:smb.conf, not samba.config
[09:08] <Hubuntu> sorry smb.config
[09:08] <rapha> Hubuntu: did that
[09:08] <Hubuntu> long time not changing it you know... ponce set up it just runs ;-)
[09:08] <raphael> do you know a tool to find and connect to w-lans?
[09:08] <krazykit> GaiaX11: depending on the model, yeah.  my laptop has a really easy access to the mini-pci slot.  some you might have to totally open the case.  dells are like that, i think.  hp and compaq seem to be easy to get to.  they use the crappy broadcom wireless card though
[09:09] <krazykit> GaiaX11: dell tends to use broadcom, too
[09:09] <Kjohnview> hey i can have tow distros in mi DD
[09:09] <Kjohnview> in my Harddisks
[09:09] <Kjohnview> ?
[09:09] <krazykit> Khamael: yeah
[09:09] <krazykit> err
[09:10] <krazykit> Kjohnview: yeah.
[09:10] <rapha> raphael: network-manager-gnome
[09:10] <krazykit> sorry Khamael
[09:10] <raphael> thx rapha
[09:10] <krazykit> Kjohnview: but it takes a touch more work
[09:10] <Kjohnview> i wanna have devuian and mandriva
[09:10] <rapha> Hubuntu: I can do smbclient -L localhost and that works
[09:10] <krazykit> Kjohnview: debian, you mean?
[09:10] <rapha> Hubuntu: I can also do smbclient -L windows-machine and that also shows me its shares
[09:10] <Kjohnview> so so
[09:10] <twosharp> hi, i just installed the xfce4-screenshooter-plugin but i cant find how to launch it, no similar commands or anything :s
[09:11] <Hubuntu> rapha maybe you should try setting up a samba server... I remember reading that the Shared folders under ubuntu can give trouble... Maybe it is just a matter of setting up the option for access on thos folders...
[09:11] <Hubuntu> Sorry
[09:11] <rapha> Hubuntu: meanwhile I
[09:11] <Kjohnview> deivan ok,,,
[09:11] <RudyValencia> I give up.
[09:11] <rapha> Hubuntu: meanwhile I've anyways edited the smb.conf anyways... but it looks fine
[09:11] <Hubuntu> rudy
[09:11] <RudyValencia> yes
[09:11] <Hubuntu> wait
[09:12] <Kjohnview> Rudy speaks Spanish???
[09:12] <RudyValencia> no
[09:12] <Kjohnview> rudy fron valencia venezuela??
[09:12] <rapha> Hubuntu: so how would I know what options to change?
[09:12] <Kjohnview> or SPAIN
[09:12] <Hubuntu> hablas espaol?
[09:12] <RudyValencia> Kjohnview, I am from america but family ancestors are from spain
[09:12] <Hubuntu> not sure rapha... I have a clean samba server
[09:12] <krazykit> Kjohnview: there are spanish channels.  ubuntu-es and probably debian-es
[09:12] <Kjohnview> OK cool...
[09:13] <RudyValencia> Kjohnview, yes my name is "Rudy Valencia"
[09:13] <Kjohnview> do you know these chanel Devian-es??
[09:13] <Kjohnview> Ok ja jaajaa
[09:13] <RudyValencia> hehe
[09:13] <Kjohnview> well ruddy your last name is valencia
[09:13] <RudyValencia> Yes.
[09:13] <Hubuntu> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[09:14] <Kjohnview> fine!!! Im forn valencia
[09:14] <ToHellWithGA> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot about 1/4 of the way down says "sudo cp -av /media/cdrom0/install/netboot/* /var/lib/tftpboot/" yet i don't see a directory /install/netboot/ on the dapper installation disc.  is it on there?
[09:14] <hsunda3> How do you change your hostname so that it remains after reboot? I tried 'hostname newname' and sudo started giving me errors that it couldn't succeeed in getnamebyhost() or something.
[09:14] <RudyValencia> Hubuntu, I don't want to install GNOME on my server
[09:14] <Hubuntu> DO read both all steps
[09:14] <Hubuntu> ok... I thought you had a desktop... then
[09:14] <rapha> Hubuntu: clean = standard ubuntu version of smb.conf?
[09:14] <Hubuntu> (gnome has nothing to do on a servere ;)
[09:14] <Kjohnview> whata do you want??
[09:15] <RudyValencia> right
[09:15] <Kjohnview> KDE??'??
[09:15] <RudyValencia> I have /dev/hda3 as /web and I want to share that with windows users
[09:15] <Hubuntu> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server
[09:15] <Hubuntu> there you go...
[09:15] <Hubuntu> :)
[09:16] <Kjohnview> hubuntu what up?
[09:17] <rixxon> !networkmanager
[09:17] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[09:17] <Hubuntu> What i meant is that a server, in my point of view, should not have X at all.
[09:17] <Hubuntu> but that's me
[09:17] <shut-> how u set a root pass
[09:17] <rixxon> Hubuntu: i agree. although i think a server shouldn't be linux either ;)
[09:17] <magnet> shut-: sudo passwd root
[09:18] <shut-> ok
[09:18] <Skyrail> Anyone here managed to get a ZyXEL 630-C modem working with Ubtuntu?
[09:18] <tsuki> Wilkomen
[09:18] <raphael> how can i connect to a microsoft-network?
[09:18] <Hubuntu> well... depending on what kind of server.. I like linux on the server :)
[09:18] <tsuki> Sensucht
[09:18] <rixxon> raphael: you mean a network share? try smb://hostname
[09:18] <rixxon> raphael: (in nautilus)
[09:18] <Skyrail> tsuki ??
[09:18] <rixxon> Hubuntu: i prefer openbsd
[09:19] <tsuki> DASS
[09:19] <raphael> my friend said something about samba, samba-common, nfs, nfs-common
[09:19] <hondje> I like my servers to run dog slow, too!
[09:19] <Hubuntu> rixxon where you thinking of a *nix flavor or something else?
[09:19] <rixxon> raphael: "smb" = samba
[09:19] <shut-> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[09:19] <Skyrail> tsuki ?
[09:19] <shut-> how come it wasnt found
[09:19] <rixxon> Hubuntu: don't you know openbsd?
[09:19] <tsuki> wHAT
[09:19] <gnomefreak> shut-: enable multiverse repo
[09:19] <tsuki> WHAT sKYRAIL
[09:19] <rixxon> Hubuntu: it's a unix flavor, yes
[09:19] <raphael> and what's nfs
[09:19] <shut-> how
[09:19] <tsuki> WHAT SKYRAIL
[09:19] <gnomefreak> !repos > shut-
[09:19] <gnomefreak> shut-: read your pm
[09:20] <Ricardo> hi guys, i am having a hell of a time getting my BCM4306 802.11g built in inside my laptop to work
[09:20] <tsuki> SKYRAIL
[09:20] <tsuki> ???
[09:20] <rixxon> tsuki: could you please calm down?
[09:20] <krazykit> Ricardo: you're not the only one.  at this point, ndiswrapper, in my opinion, is a better option
[09:20] <Hubuntu> nice, secure but you know.... I like lamp to be up and running in 30 minutes... I guess an experienced BSD user manages to do that on OpenBSD, but I just don't have the time to learn that... So... If I had, maybe I would considering it. One whole on the default since 199X is as  secure as it gets :)
[09:21] <Ricardo> hrm ok
[09:21] <tsuki> DU BIST SCHEISSE RIXXON
[09:21] <ckoehler> so anyone here who uses dapper as guest OS on Xen?
[09:21] <rixxon> Hubuntu: imho, it's worth the extra work
[09:21] <krazykit> tsuki: if you're going to insult people, just leave.
[09:21] <Skyrail> Does anyone know how I can get my USB modem working with Ubuntu?
[09:22] <hsunda3> Ricardo: I think I have a bcm4306 as well, and I have it working using ndiswrapper only
[09:22] <tsuki>  
[09:22] <Ricardo> hrm
[09:22] <tsuki> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL TAMBIEN
[09:22] <Ricardo> does it work?
[09:22] <rixxon> Hubuntu: vulnerabilities are often fixed in openbsd before they're even discovered ;p
[09:22] <Hubuntu> if you are hosting a "real" server yeah... but we use dyndns and just 3 people use it... so LAMP Dapper is fine :) (SugarCRM, Joomla, Samba, SSH, iFolder... and that is it basically)
[09:22] <bean-oh> Hubuntu, 30 minutes if you're installing from a clone. "secure out of the box" is not secure enough in most cases. if it were me i'd spend a lot more than 30 minutes on a new install.
[09:22] <hsunda3> Ricardo: yes, it works using ndiswrapper for me (it worked even back in Breezy)
[09:22] <krazykit> Ricardo: it's actually pretty simple.  if you're somewhat versed with the commandline, you can use the ndiswrapper wiki for all the steps
[09:23] <Ricardo> what about power usage
[09:23] <Ricardo> and like bandwidth
[09:23] <tsuki> ESTO APESTA
[09:23] <Hubuntu> well... 30 minutes and then apt-get update / upgrade automatically
[09:23] <tsuki> HELLO
[09:23] <tsuki> 
[09:23] <twosharp> hi, i just installed the xfce4-screenshooter-plugin but i cant find how to launch it, no similar commands or anything :s anyone know the command?
[09:23] <rixxon> Hubuntu: see, they use a different stdlib. you run much lower chance of getting a buffer overflowed and shellcode injected on obsd...
[09:24] <mikeconcepts> are logs of this channel available anywhere?
[09:24] <krazykit> Ricardo: ndiswrapper works well enough with it.  i've never had issues
[09:24] <TurtleBoots> has anyone here successfully installed the Java Runtime Environment plugin for FireFox??
[09:24] <krazykit> ubotu: tell mikeconcepts about logs
[09:24] <bean-oh> Hubuntu, thats not what i meant. locking down services, apache, ssh, etc.
[09:24] <hondje> OBSD has super wonderful smp support, too.
[09:24] <Ricardo> i just wonder if you can set the card to lowp ower mode
[09:24] <Ricardo> low power mode
[09:24] <rixxon> Hubuntu: "lamp" (rather bamp? heh) is probably pretty easy to set up in openbsd aswell, it does have a repository you know
[09:24] <Hubuntu> you mean like selinux?
[09:24] <krazykit> Ricardo: eh... i dunno.  unlikely :-/
[09:25] <hondje> It's a performance king! :D
[09:25] <mikeconcepts> krazykit, thanks
[09:25] <TurtleBoots> !plugin
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <Hubuntu> but it is just one click on the dapper-server cd and you go :)
[09:25] <bean-oh> rixxon, openbsd is real nice.
[09:25] <TurtleBoots> !JavaRuntimeEnvironment
[09:25] <Ricardo> i just wonder because my battery life already sucks balls in this dell laptop
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JavaRuntimeEnvironment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <TurtleBoots> :o(
[09:25] <Hubuntu> backup the smb.config and network_users file sources.list
[09:25] <rixxon> bean-oh: yes. every server in the world should run it ;)
[09:25] <shut-> thag didnt help me
[09:25] <Hubuntu> and you are done.. Im a sales man, not a sysadmin ;)
[09:26] <bean-oh> rixxon, yes, in a perfect world.  but in big business, gotta go with whats supported..
[09:26] <trakie> so i have 2 monitors connected, 2 video cards, it all works - but I cant drag windows from one to the other.  I can start apps in either, just cant drag them to the other.  is there a way to drag them across??
[09:26] <rixxon> bean-oh: well, they should make obsd supported...! *cry*
[09:26] <Hubuntu> I did try it once, ut found it rather difficult (that is like several years ago) maybe i'll give it a try soon
[09:26] <rixxon> openbsd was the first *nix i ever installed and used
[09:26] <Hubuntu> is it good for clusters? I mean softwarewise...
[09:27] <algabone> hi everybody
[09:27] <Ricardo> freebsd was my first posix os
[09:27] <rixxon> was a total windows junkie back then.
[09:27] <ThunderM> TurtleBoots : sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[09:27] <rixxon> so nah, not that complex ;)
[09:27] <algabone> does anyone know an repository for gnome 2.16 ?
[09:27] <Ricardo> back then linux had shit for package management though
[09:27] <TurtleBoots> ThunderM: whatta guy!
[09:27] <rixxon> Ricardo: fbsd was my second, switching from obsd. than i switched back heh
[09:27] <ThunderM> TurtleBoots:  and then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:27] <hondje> Hubuntu: No, it's not
[09:27] <Ricardo> openbsd was secure for a server but too slow for a desktop
[09:27] <aLPHa_LeaK>  brb
[09:27] <Hubuntu> so why did you end up here, with ubuntu?
[09:27] <Hubuntu> i mean just curios, not offensive :)
[09:28] <Ricardo> but if i had to put a server out in the real world
[09:28] <Ricardo> it would be openbsd given my choice
[09:28] <TurtleBoots> ThunderM: whats the second one do??
[09:28] <Ricardo> openbsd is rock solid
[09:28] <ThunderM> TurtleBoot : and you choose  the option that corresponds to J2SE (option 3 usually)
[09:28] <rixxon> Hubuntu: well, as i said. server. i use ubuntu on my laptop
[09:28] <shut-> anyone know why it says E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[09:28] <Hubuntu> what you think of debian as a server?
[09:28] <hondje> rock solid and rock slow
[09:28] <ThunderM> TurtleBoot : it tells the system what java instalation to use
[09:29] <TurtleBoots> ThunderM: ahh ok... I'll give it a go. Thanks
[09:30] <rixxon> Hubuntu: if i was to run a linux on a server, i'd probably go with debian
[09:30] <rixxon> although i have no experiance with linux as server
[09:30] <Hubuntu> but ubuntu is based on debian
[09:30] <shut-> so do u guys know where i get E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[09:30] <Hubuntu> I would go as far as saying theat ubuntu on the server is debian
[09:30] <Hubuntu> (tried netcraft wand guess what? it was recognized as debian.. )
[09:30] <hivearmy> Can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[09:31] <Hubuntu> but you know.. I've been wrong before
[09:31] <hondje> Not quite the same, though similar
[09:31] <Hubuntu> hopefully as secure as...
[09:31] <Hubuntu> :)
[09:32] <m1sh-L_> my networkmanager-applet doesn't show wireless networks! but i'm now connected by wireless! what can i do?
[09:32] <TurtleBoots> ThunderM: Sweetness!! Thanks mate!! :oD
[09:32] <hondje> Debian is nice, but RH et al have a lot better support
[09:32] <krazykit> meh@rh.
[09:32] <Hubuntu> A key lesson from the Debian heritage is that of security by default. The Ubuntu Server has no open ports after the installation and contains only the essential software needed to build a secure server.
[09:32] <Hubuntu> http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[09:33] <shut-> what do u use for printer
[09:33] <rixxon> m1sh-L_: i think you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:33] <ThunderM> shut- : http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories to add repositories and then http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:33] <shut-> ok
[09:33] <ThunderM> TurtleBoots : you're welcome :)
[09:33] <hondje> 'security by default'? Then why, for example, is /dev/shm mounted rw? :-D
[09:34] <brittney> how do i set an universal path for the system? I want to set /opt/bin for all the users to exec
 why edit this file? shoud i remove wireless-essid and key?
[09:34] <Hubuntu> symlink /opt/bin to /usr/bin
[09:34] <Hubuntu> or?
[09:34] <brittney> i have a /usr/bin to
[09:35] <brittney> or how do u mean?
[09:35] <hsunda3> brittney you can modify the corresponding file in /etc/skel so that from now on new users will have that in their path. For the current users you can symlink /opt/bin to an existing path directory.
[09:35] <GpF> hi! my locales seem to be broken, as I cannot reconfigure it. anyone with an idea why? (ubuntu server 6.06lts, patched 5 mins ago)
[09:36] <hivearmy> I installed the windows wireless driver for my card. but it still won't work...?
[09:36] <brittney> thnx
[09:37] <GpF> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't display the configuration dialog, just regenerates the existing en_US locale :(
[09:38] <darnell> when i logged into gnome the gtkpod icon is on the desktop.. and when i open it it works fine..
[09:38] <kozmic> why are so many gnome applets removed from the default install.. or how do i get most gnome applets? (do i have to get them one by one?)
[09:38] <darnell> why doesnt it do that with kubuntu
[09:38] <kitche> darnell: well does it spit out any errors?
[09:38] <hondje> kozmic: apt-cache search applet | grep gnome maybe :)
[09:39] <gubluntu> Does anyone know how i can capture screen on a specific workspace, via remote ssh?
[09:39] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:39] <darnell> no..
[09:39] <darnell> when i unplug and plug my ipod into my usb port.. it does nothing
[09:39] <MajoR_bg> Where are you from people
[09:39] <Jonf> I installed easy ubuntu, how can I create a shortcut to it?
[09:39] <kitche> darnell: try this open up an xterm and type in gtkpod
[09:40] <hondje> gubluntu: I'd install imagemagik (IIRC) and use the import command that comes with it, or maybe log in with X forwarding and do it locally
[09:40] <GpF> anyone with an idea on my locales problem?
[09:40] <raptor31> hello
[09:40] <Spaghetti> hi
[09:40] <darnell> it opens gtkpod..
[09:40] <darnell> the problem is it doesnt see the songs i have on it
[09:41] <darnell> it says disconnected at the bottom
[09:41] <raptor31> anyone know how to install the java plugin for firefox PM me
[09:41] <Ricardo> i installed network manager but where does it show up?
[09:41] <gubluntu> hondje, dont think x forwarding is a good idea, my home machine is running xgl/compiz
[09:41] <gubluntu> thanks though
[09:41] <gubluntu> ill check it out
[09:42] <Ricardo> it's always these small setup problems that make me go back to xp... so annoying
[09:42] <hondje> yep, import comes iwth imagemagik
[09:43] <trakie> I have 2 monitors working, except I cant drag windows from one to the other, is there anyway to do that?
[09:43] <Guitarhero11> anyone know why i would only be getting playback out of the left speaker?  Ive tested them and its not the speakers.  They used to work with everything but then only one works now and wolfenstein doesnt anymore with sound
[09:43] <shut-> thanks alot
[09:43] <shut-> it worked
[09:43] <ChrisCox> JosefK: Do you know how to install Flash player for FireFox?
[09:44] <kitche> Guitarhero11: check your mixer settings they might be set up to only play out of the left speaker
[09:44] <swinchen> I have a really strange issue.  I am using the i810 video driver, and when I am using a 3D application...  randomly the screen goes black, and the icon flickers a few times between a pointer and the spinning wait symbol.   Then it goes away completely.   The system becomes entirely unreponsive.   Any ideas?
[09:45] <ThunderM> ChrisCox : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:45] <ChrisCox> ThunderM: Thanks
[09:45] <ThunderM> ChrisCox: and then sudo update-flashplugin
[09:45] <GpF> anyone with an idea on my locales problem?
[09:45] <GpF> :/
[09:45] <Hubuntu> peace out
[09:45] <Hubuntu> exit
[09:45] <ChrisCox> ThunderM: It couldnt find that package
[09:46] <DethKlok> How do I change the default resolution for my TTY consoles?
[09:46] <swinchen> Maybe this isn't even the right place to ask.
[09:46] <ThunderM> ChrisCox : then you need to enable the extra repositories
[09:46] <ChrisCox> ThunderM: I have...
[09:46] <GpF> is there anyone who knows why is dpkg-reconfigure locales is broken?
[09:46] <Guitarhero11> kitche: nope just checked its centered
[09:47] <DethKlok> Chriscox: sudo apt-get update , did you run that command after you updated the repositories
[09:47] <ChrisCox> DethKlok: Nope
[09:47] <ThunderM> ChrisCox : i guess it doesn't hurt to double check .. so do this: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:47] <choronzon> hi, hope someone could help me out. I just installed ubuntu on my second hard drive. the 1st hard drive is running winXP. I think Im missing something, but I cant get into ubuntu. any ideas?
[09:47] <kitche> Guitarhero11: is your sound card a soundblaster or another one that can have many channels of output or is the speakers seperate
[09:48] <Guitarhero11> soundblaster audigy 2 of some sort
[09:48] <redbluefish> How do you check from the command line to see what distribution is running on the computer.  I tried to upgrade from breezy to dapper, and I want to prove to myself that I am running 6.06 .
[09:48] <redbluefish> I tried uname, but that only seems to give kernal information.
[09:48] <ChrisCox> DethKlok: I'm running that now
[09:48] <Guitarhero11> kitche: my speakers both plug into the woofer, then the woofer plugs into the card
[09:48] <Ricardo> i can't seem to make ndiswrapper work, it still sees the old driver
[09:48] <DethKlok> chriscox: after you do that then try doing what you were doing.
[09:48] <gnomefreak> redbluefish: lsb_release -a
[09:48] <ChrisCox> DethKlok: Thank you
[09:48] <Celeste> Can ndiswrapper use every driver from windows?  I have got a UMTS Connect card....
[09:49] <gnomefreak> redbluefish: or uname -a
[09:49] <kitche> Guitarhero11: hmm your card might not be set up right, but then again I never set up sound that uses a woofer then speakers
[09:49] <kitche> Celeste: no it can only use certain chipset drivers
[09:49] <Guitarhero11> kitche: im reinstalling ubuntu on a new hard drive soon, maybe it will properly install the card that way.
[09:50] <ChrisCox> DethKlok: Still didnt work
[09:50] <DethKlok> Chriscox: What are you trying to do?
[09:50] <ChrisCox> DethKlok: Install Flash Player for Mozilla FireFox
[09:50] <choronzon> after installing ubuntu on a second hard drive, do I have to do something extra so I can dual boot it with my current win XP installation?
[09:50] <redbluefish> uname -a yields: Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:03:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:51] <Guitarhero11> choronzon: you'll have to include windows in your grub.menu file
[09:51] <DethKlok> Chriscox: and you updated the sources.list file with the one on ubuntuguide.org ?
[09:51] <kitche> redbluefish: it's in /etc probably called ubuntu-version
[09:51] <crocd> can anybody suggest a good application to create thumbnails for html pages?
[09:52] <ChrisCox> DethKlok: Don't get all technical on me, i only installed Ubuntu a few days ago...
[09:52] <DethKlok> Chriscox: lol alright, goto ubuntuguide.org and click adding extra repositories
[09:52] <choronzon> I dont even have a grub menu or anything. it just boots XP normally. and when I tell the bios to boot from the hard drive where ubuntu is installed, it just says "missing OS"
[09:52] <davvs> how do i see info about how much space i have left on the harddrive?
[09:52] <aikie> in which folder should you place deb's to be found by the package manager
[09:52] <crocd> ChrisCox: have you just used x86 or is it a 64 bit installation
[09:53] <DethKlok> Chriscox: And follow what it says.  That page should be your Bible for awhile
[09:53] <fh|killy> lo - I want to burn an ogm file to a dvd... my cheap dvd player won't play it, how can I convert the ogm to avi? (dapper)
[09:53] <crocd> davvs: enter df it will diplay usage of hd partitions
[09:53] <redbluefish> lsb_release -a gives me everything I was looking for.
[09:54] <DethKlok> Anyone know how to change defualt resolution for the TTY consoles?
[09:54] <jvai> hey all..
[09:54] <davvs> thanks crocd
[09:54] <swinchen> it is amazing how different each flavor of linux is.
[09:54] <jvai> <-- grabs pen & paper
[09:54] <swinchen> I am coming from Arch linux, and am having a difficult time getting adjusted.
[09:55] <kitche> swinchen: their not that different all you ave to learn is the defaults but then again I used pretty much all of the distros that are main stream
[09:55] <DethKlok> swinchen: I think it comes down to which one makes it easier to to install programs.
[09:56] <crocd> davvs: np
[09:56] <crocd> davvs: do a man df and it will give you more instructions on usage.
[09:56] <jvai> yep.. what i find similar are the basics... file systems/ commands... it's mostly all similar
[09:56] <jvai> just the innerfaces r.. different
[09:57] <DethKlok> Then one day you come across Debian and use apt-get for the first time and fall in love.
[09:57] <swinchen> Indeed.   I have no idea how Ubuntu mounts CD's automatically and little things like that.
[09:57] <jvai> lol.. soo
[09:57] <shut-> how do u upgrad java
[09:57] <kitche> swinchen: it's hal and dbus every distro can do that if you have it set up right
[09:57] <ThunderM> DethKlok : i've already pointed him there
[09:58] <jvai> :( @ java.. it's in my home folder.. but for nuthin.. it wont work
[09:58] <swinchen> Arch's pacman is pretty awesome, although slower than apt-get.   And there are a few things I still don't know how to do in apt.   Such as listing all the files of a package installed and things like that.
[09:58] <DethKlok> ThunderM: My bad I sorta just jumped in on you helping him :(
[09:58] <linopil> need to repair ext3FS
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: list all files of a package installed : dpkg -L packagename
[09:59] <linopil> where is the journal ?
[09:59] <linopil> !journal
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about journal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: dpkg is the dark side of apt get ;)
[09:59] <shut-> i am wondering if i can upgrade my java
[09:59] <shut-> how can i do it
[09:59] <linopil> !ext3fs
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext3fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> shut-: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will fetch all updates (including Java) if you have installed Java from the repositories
[10:00] <aum> hi - ub is not coping with my mustek bearpaw 1200CU scanner - says "failed to open device 'gt68xx:libusb:001:002': invalid argument" - any suggestions?
[10:00] <swinchen> ahhh ok.  fyrestrtr, thanks.   Interesting, I am also trying to figure out the relationship between apt-get, apt-cache and dpkg.
[10:00] <hondje> apt-file is nice to use, too
[10:00] <HotDrive> hi. need a architect programa for linux, any sugestion?
[10:00] <DethKlok> apt-pwnage
[10:00] <jazzrocker> HotDrive, you mean CAD?
[10:01] <HotDrive> yes, something like it
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> apt-* are just higher level abstractions of the dpkg tool. In fact, apt-* and even aptitude and synaptic just pass commands to dpkg (afaik).
[10:01] <erUSUL> HotDrive: qcad (only 2D)
[10:01] <DethKlok> Anyone know how to change terminal resolutions?
[10:01] <swinchen> fyrestrtr, it sounds more convient to just learn dpkg then?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> DethKlok: you need to enable framebuffer console. There is a wiki entry for it :)
[10:01] <HotDrive> is it on the repositories?
[10:01] <jvai> will totem-xine open shoutcast streams automatically? i had all the non free codecs thus far
[10:02] <hondje> dpkg won't grab packages from repos
[10:02] <jvai> i couldnt do it from work.. i think on the strength of the frirewall
[10:02] <DethKlok> fyrestrtr: search for framebuffer console?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: not really -- since apt and friends protect you from seriously messing up your system. If your packaging backend is corrupted -- no matter what distro, you are in for some serious headaches.
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> DethKlok: yes :)
[10:02] <kaot> hah DethKlok, best nick ever
[10:02] <DethKlok> thanks
[10:03] <TheProphet[S] > hi
[10:03] <Steve> wooT
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> jvai: sudo aptitude -r install streamtuner <-- best online radio app :)
[10:03] <TheProphet[S] > how do i change permissions for files and devices from console?
[10:03] <hondje> TheProphet[S] : chmod command
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> TheProphet[S] : for files, use the 'chmod' command.
[10:03] <DethKlok> theprophet[s] : man chmod
[10:03] <Basher___> woot
[10:04] <jvai> ooo, is that it own app, or does it work thru anothr app @ fyrestrtr
[10:04] <erUSUL> HotDrive: vericad
[10:04] <TheProphet[S] > oki thank you
[10:04] <Basher___> i'm in on trillian
[10:04] <segas> anyone here who might be able to help me how to install a game?
[10:04] <jvai> streamtuner
[10:04] <codyzapp> where can i download cups for ubuntu?
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> jvai: its it own app. It allows you to browse various streams, play them (via xmms) and even record streams.
[10:04] <swinchen> muahaha, I have installed the power to play encrypted DVD's!
[10:04] <Steve> :)
[10:04] <TheProphet[S] > what about that ntfs partition? how do i let my user read it?
[10:04] <Basher___> brb
[10:04] <jvai> ooo i need xmms!!!!!
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> codyzapp: cups is already part of ubuntu. To add printers, go to system > administration > printing
[10:04] <segas> anyone know what this means? "checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables"
[10:05] <raphael> hi, i've got a problem: i want to play an avi-video in amarok, but i can only hear the sound
[10:05] <shut-> is there a pacage manger
[10:05] <codyzapp> fyrestrtr, kk thx
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> jvai: that command I gave you will fetch all the things you need.
[10:05] <segas> this was during a ./configure
[10:05] <swinchen> What do people think of xubuntu vs. ubuntu?
[10:05] <asdfjkl> i am connecting to a windows box with vnc and the scroll bars only scroll once down and then i can't scroll up anyone know how to fix this?
[10:05] <codyzapp> shut-, did u read what he said..
[10:05] <Boglizk_> Xfce > Gnome
[10:05] <jvai> ok.. thanks ( scrolls up)
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> segas: means you need to install a proper build system and a compiler. What are you trying to compile?
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: that kind of talk is for #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:06] <magnet> swinchen: use xubuntu on slower machines (I use both)
[10:06] <raphael> what can i do, if amarok only plays the sound of a video but i can't see anything
[10:06] <swinchen> Sorry, I didnt realize it is off topic
[10:06] <HotDrive> erUSUL-> I can't find it on the repositories, is there any site that gives info on such progrms?
[10:07] <erUSUL> HotDrive: qcad is on the repos vericad is comercial product though
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: we like to keep this channel for support issues :)
[10:07] <erUSUL> !info qcad
[10:07] <ubotu> qcad: A professional CAD System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4.0-1-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2872 kB, installed size 12564 kB
[10:07] <jvai> i thought that xubnutu would have the *exact* apps as gnome, but thats not the case
[10:07] <shut-> my printer isnt in there
[10:07] <Mr0bvious> I want to have a CGI script run in /var/www/irc (irc cgi script I found). How do I enable it to run?
[10:07] <swinchen> ok, here is my support question:
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> shut-: did you install it?
[10:07] <erUSUL> HotDrive: as you can see qcad is on the universe repo
[10:07] <shut-> its a cana pixma ip 1600
[10:07] <swinchen> I have a really strange issue.  I am using the i810 video driver, and when I am using a 3D application...  randomly the screen goes black, and the icon flickers a few times between a pointer and the spinning wait symbol.   Then it goes away completely.   The system becomes entirely unreponsive.   Any ideas?
[10:07] <shut-> i don know how
[10:07] <shut-> :P
[10:07] <crocd> Mr0bvious: cgi scripts by default should be in cgi-bin folder
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> shut-: first, find out how well its support by browsing linuxprinting.org
[10:08] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Ok yeah, do I need to create a cgi-bin folder?
[10:08] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Or can I edit my apache httpd.conf file?
[10:09] <crocd> it should be under /var/www/cgi-bin
[10:09] <jvai> yaho movies suk.... they require ie or netscape to view the trailers
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: the system is normal otherwise?
[10:09] <crocd> Mr0bvious: use gedit to edit the httpd.conf file or vim
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: other apps work fine, and you have direct rendering enabled (ie, accelerated graphics)
[10:09] <HotDrive> ok, thanks! see ya
[10:09] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Yeah I know. I'm good with CLI
[10:09] <swinchen> fyrestrtr, yes and yes.  It seems fine
[10:09] <Mr0bvious> I prefer vi :)
[10:10] <swinchen> swinchen@strongbad:/var/log$ glxinfo | grep dire
[10:10] <swinchen> direct rendering: Yes
[10:10] <kitche> I prefer vim myself
[10:10] <crocd> Mr0bvious: OK use vim then, check to see if you have a cgi-bin folder though
[10:10] <Mr0bvious> I don't think I do.
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: this happens on *every* 3D app, or just a specific app?
[10:10] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Nope.
[10:11] <moparfan90> hello
[10:11] <crocd> to make a script usable you need to chmod 755 scriptname. then it should work
[10:11] <swinchen> fyrestrtr, It has happened on a screen saver, scorched3d and flightgear
[10:11] <crocd> Mr0bvious: does httpd.conf have a cgi-bin refence?
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: seems like bad opengl support for your card, not much you can do about that, unfortunately.
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> crocd: on ubuntu, httpd.conf is blank :)
[10:11] <shut-> how come frostwire dont see java installed
[10:12] <ChrisCox> JosefK: You there mate?
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> !java > shut-
[10:12] <swinchen> fyrestrtr, that is what I suspected.  Thanks for backing up my theory.
[10:12] <moparfan90> i am trying to install steam on ubuntu and after i do the command $ wine Steaminstall.exe everything seems fine unilt it trys and updates steam then it just goes away with this error:    Unknown device ID 554F, please report. Assuming plain R300.
[10:12] <crocd> Mr0bvious: hang on
[10:12] <shut-> i did
[10:12] <moparfan90> any ideas?
[10:12] <ChrisCox> I need help with my sound
[10:12] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Would it be a good idea to copy/paste my entire httpd.conf to a pastebin somewhere?
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> swinchen: for extra bonus points, try running the apps from a console and note any errors. This is the first step. If there aren't any errors, you know for sure its a driver issue :)
[10:12] <shut-> i did sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:13] <ChrisCox> I have just installed Flash, but not getting any sound, yet sound works normally for other things, any ideas?
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> moparfan90: do you have accelerated drivers installed?
[10:13] <swinchen> fyrestrtr, Errors when it crashes?   I can't because the computer freezes
[10:13] <moparfan90> for video?
[10:13] <kitche> ChrisCox: that is a bug with Flash
[10:14] <thetictacaddict> I have a question that seems like it should be basic but I don't know how to search for an answer
[10:14] <moparfan90> i dont have video yet that is next on my thing to do. but it should work.. ill go install and try again
[10:14] <ChrisCox> kitche: How does it fix?
[10:14] <jvai> hay all.. thank u so much. bbac latr on... dont forget to eat ppl, it's what your body needs
[10:14] <lupine_85> ChrisCox: in FireFox?
[10:14] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Shoot.
[10:14] <crocd> Mr0bvious: sorry i was working on a re hat system last week and it had cgi-bin under var
[10:14] <ChrisCox> lupine_85: Yep
[10:14] <McNutella> is there anyone here that may be able to help me change an imap account settings to use pop, on Thunderbird? please.
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> ChrisCox: read the sound troubleshooting section in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:15] <thetictacaddict> what does it mean when: I'm using an application (usually firefox), and my mouse cursor turns into an x, firefox doesn't respond, and I can't move the mouse outside the window
[10:15] <MystaMax> is there a howto on setting up evolution with MS Exchange servers?
[10:15] <crocd> on ubuntu it is under /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[10:15] <lupine_85> I used the plugin in konqueror, and it worked fine; then firefox automagically fixed itself as well! So maybe try using it in nautilus or something
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> McNutella: just create a new account in thunderbird, and set it as pop?
[10:15] <crocd> Mr0bvious: that was according to my httpd.conf file
[10:15] <tuxedup> I was messing around with the desktop icons and now the trash can in kde wont change when its empty or full, it is stuck on one or the other depending on what I set.  How dow I retun it so it changes the icon if its full or empty?
[10:16] <crocd> brb
[10:16] <McNutella> fyrestrtr, that would be the easy route, but in this account I have alot of filters that I need to use, and there is no way to export/import these.
[10:16] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: (It would help if you put my name in a sentance, that way it goes bold and i can see it more clear) It means your computer is trying to do too many things at once and has overloaded, may i ask when you installed Ubuntu?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> MystaMax: make sure evolution-exchange is installed, then create a new account, and choose 'Exchange' from the server type.
[10:16] <broken> hello, does anyone know how to fix the error http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Connection failed [IP: 195.248.90.54 80] 
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> McNutella: server-side filters?
[10:16] <Mr0bvious> crocd: I think it's pointed to /var/www/cgi-bin now
[10:16] <broken> in synaptic i cannot download any package
[10:17] <Mr0bvious> crocd: And I have my script and made the directory there.
[10:17] <McNutella> fyrestrtr, local
[10:17] <Mr0bvious> It should work I'd think.
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> broken: means the repo server is down.
[10:17] <fatbrain> Hello, what app is good for unpacking archives, such as rar / zip ?
[10:17] <lyy> here's a question for you guys: i want to take a day off from work for no reason, what kind of excuse should I give her?
[10:17] <Mr0bvious> fatbrain: the cli command unrar or unzip
[10:17] <lupine_85> Ivy: "the cat ate my car keys"
[10:17] <broken> tell them you fell off a bridge and it hurts really bad ;(
[10:17] <thetictacaddict> ChrisCox, I installed it about a month ago.  it seemed especially weird to me though because my cpu monitor wasn't particularly high
[10:17] <fatbrain> Mr0bvious: thanks
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> McNutella: there might be a way to tranfer just the rules, I did something like that (with settings) when moving from Windows to Linux a year or so ago. Google around.
[10:17] <Mr0bvious> fatbrain: You're welcome
[10:17] <fatbrain> what's the name of the popular? two-pane file-manager?
[10:18] <Agravain> lyy: you need to work from home to focus on a difficult task (use much technical jargon when explaining the task)
[10:18] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Do you have alot of stuff on your system?
[10:18] <McNutella> fyrestrtr, you any idea there the settings or ini file for thunderbird is, I could look there first
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> fatbrain: norton commander?
[10:18] <fatbrain> no, something else
[10:18] <Agravain> lyy: and choose something simple :P
[10:18] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Do you think looking at it you could figure it out better?
[10:18] <angasule> can anyone recommend me a replacement for MS Project 2002? I tried Planner, but it apparently can't load Project files, so it's useless
[10:18] <hondje> fatbrain: thunar?
[10:18] <lyy> Agravain: only thing is she knows what's going on too :(
[10:18] <crocd> MrObvious: i will have alook at my system
[10:18] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Ok.
[10:18] <lyy> Agravain: i can't feed her BS.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> McNutella: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[10:19] <Zibby> any known issues with the e1000 driver in the latest dapper kernel?
[10:19] <broken> does anyone know how to fix the bug where you can't download anything from synaptic
[10:19] <McNutella> fyrestrtr, got it, thanks :D
[10:19] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Have you got alot of stuff on your computer?
[10:19] <fatbrain> hm... /me ponders
[10:19] <lyy> Agravain: what's a good 3 hour excuse then?
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> broken: change your repository servers to a mirror.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> lyy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:19] <Mr0bvious> crocd: The requested URL /cgi-bin/irc.cgi was not found on this server
[10:20] <Agravain> lyy: okay, maybe you have an appointment with some doctor or something in the middle of the day close to where you live and want to work from home to save time on commute that day - making for a shorter break from work
[10:20] <martiimster> how to can i conect to ubuntu-es
[10:20] <thetictacaddict> ChrisCox: well, I'm not sure what constitutes a lot.  I usually have two mail checkers, gnome panel with a system monitor thingy, and e16 as a window manager
[10:20] <crocd> MrObvious: it looks like this httpd.conf is more forgiving on ubuntu and you can chage the directory to /var/www/cgi-bin but you need to edit the httpd.conf to reflect it
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Agravain: lyy take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:20] <thetictacaddict> chriscox: running at any given time, I mean
[10:20] <crocd> MrObvious: what are the permissions on the file?
[10:20] <AlexC> thetictacaddict, have you tried using XFCE instead of Gnome?
[10:20] <shut-> why is cannon pixma ip1600 not in printing
[10:21] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Sorry, i didn't explain my question right; what i meant was Do you have alot of files on your computer?
[10:21] <crocd> Mr0bvious:  do a ls -l  check the user and group references
[10:21] <ChrisCox> AlexC: You smell XD
[10:21] <Alex> You smell too
[10:21] <Mr0bvious> crocd: K 1 second I'll check
[10:21] <lolmg> is there a program available to convert an xvid to mp3... or rip the audio from an xvid file ?
[10:21] <hondje> lolmg: transcode
[10:21] <Powerbook`> I ordered cds,
[10:21] <Agravain> fyrestrtr, guys: ok, sorry, didn't knw about that channel
[10:22] <lolmg> thanks, ill check it out
[10:22] <Powerbook`> they shipped already, how long should i expect for the us?
[10:22] <AlexC> thetictacaddict, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:22] <thetictacaddict> AlexC, I actually started with an Xubuntu install, so yes.  gnome seems faster most of the time, actually
[10:22] <MystaMax> fyrestrtr, its asking for my OWA URL, and i entered it, but it wont except, is there a special format for the OWA URL?
[10:22] <AlexC> thetictacaddict, I see - did it do this on XFCE?
[10:22] <MystaMax> fyrestrtr, oh i got it
[10:22] <janbanan> I have no sound when playing flash with firefox
[10:23] <Mr0bvious> crocd: http://pastebin.ca/162741
[10:23] <hondje> thetictacaddict: stupid question, you have swap right?
[10:23] <thetictacaddict> ChrisCox, I have about 17G out of 49G used on my root partition (36% use)
[10:23] <JohnFlux> hey all
[10:23] <modplug> how do i shut down my x server?
[10:23] <hondje> No JohnFlux, no!
[10:23] <broken> fyrestrtr, thanks it worked
[10:24] <caci> modplug: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[10:24] <hondje> modplug: ctrl-alt-f1, and log in .. then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:24] <thetictacaddict> hondje, yes I have a swap partition active.  it doesn't get used too much, though; I have a gig of ram
[10:24] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Do you have alot of processing power on your pc?
[10:24] <broken> i have no replacement for security.ubuntu.com though
[10:24] <caci> anyone tried that edgy knot-2 installer?
[10:24] <VHockey86> modplug: shutdown or just restart?
[10:24] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Here's the URL for my server: http://binary.no-ip.org (it's a script that allows IRC).
[10:24] <hondje> shutdown turns off the box, not just the xserver
[10:25] <crocd> MrObvious: you need to change the permision of the cgi-irc script to both be either the apache user or the user assigned to that app.
[10:25] <thetictacaddict> chriscox, I have an AMD Athlon 64 2800+ (1.8Ghz)
[10:25] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Are there any particular sites it crashes on?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> caci: you'll get better answers in #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <crocd> Mr0bvious:  let me just check a howto i wrote hang on
[10:25] <caci> fyrestrtr: thank you
[10:26] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Yeah that might be it.
[10:26] <moparfan90> does anyone have steam installed though wine?
[10:26] <thetictacaddict> ChrisCox: I don't think so.  just from time to time, it will freeze up, then after a few seconds it will be fine.
[10:26] <Mr0bvious> crocd: I can do a chown, but cat /etc/passwd doesn't show any users matching http or apache
[10:26] <azathoth> moparfan90: i do... there's a guide here btw: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[10:26] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Do you click alot?
[10:27] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Oh duh, it's www-data lol.
[10:27] <crocd> Mr0bvious:  you must have a user that apache runs under, it is either apache or nobody.
[10:27] <thetictacaddict> chriscox: yeah, I guess I do.  I usually notice it when I'm scrolling up or down a page with the wheel
[10:27] <woody_sud> hello, anyone with movility radeon x1400 with 3d, I need some help
, i do that but when i do wine steaminstall.exe it starts the install and then goes to the updating steam screen and get to like 20% and just goes away
[10:28] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: I get lag when i use the wheel to scroll, i just say; wait, let the computer sort itself out and continue surfing ;)
[10:28] <moparfan90> i have video drivers installed and that font
[10:28] <PseudoPlacebo> How do I set up dual-screen in Ubuntu?
[10:28] <azathoth> moparfan90: read he troubleshooting at the bottom
[10:28] <Mr0bvious> crocd: http://pastebin.ca/162746 <-my /etc/passwd file
[10:28] <crocd> Mr0bvious:  ok first chown cgi-irc to the user then chgrp cgi-irc to the user, it is a bit cak-handed but it worked for me
[10:28] <crocd> Mr0bvious: that wasnt wise
[10:29] <Mr0bvious> D'oh.
[10:29] <Mr0bvious> Brain fart.
[10:29] <finalbeta> :)
[10:29] <crocd> Mr0bvious: you have just given somebody a list of user to your system.
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> Mr0bvious: ermm ... don't post you passwd file on the freakin intraweb!!!
[10:29] <woody_sud> help with ati radeon x1400 and hardward accel
[10:29] <thetictacaddict> chriscox: okey doke
[10:29] <Zambezi> Anyone know why Links says permission denied when I'm trying to download a file?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> woody_sud: what's not working?
[10:30] <ChrisCox> thetictacaddict: Come back and talk to me if you have anymore problems, i'm usually on here quite often
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: maybe because you aren't authorized to download it?
[10:30] <Mr0bvious> Now I deleted my posting on the pastebin
[10:30] <Mr0bvious> :|
[10:30] <McNutella> fyrestrtr, there is a thunderbird extension that does filter export/import for you :)
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> McNutella: :)
[10:31] <thetictacaddict> ChrisCox: cool, thanks
[10:31] <ChrisCox> Well guys: I gotta go, se y'all tommorrow
[10:31] <PseudoPlacebo> How do I set up dual-screen in Ubuntu? And also how do I change the screen resolutions allowed?
[10:31] <djm62> Can anyone tell me how to get my centrino wireless stuff to work properly after a soft suspend.  It doesn't always fail, but it doesn't always work....
[10:31] <crocd> MrObvious: i am basing what i am telling you on a bigbrother install i did. it created a bb user and all my scripts ran as that user
[10:32] <djm62> I imagine something needs to be altered in /etc/acpi but I don't know what or where
[10:32] <hondje> PseudoPlacebo: Depends on the card, etc ... but usually jsut set up two device, monitor, screen sctions in xorg.conf
[10:32] <crocd> MrObvious: it looks like www-data is the one you use but you have to be sure that it is going to run as a restricted user account for security purposes
[10:32] <stinkball> Hi, i was wondering if there is a way to share files/folders of a windows machine to a ubuntu machine?
[10:32] <PseudoPlacebo> hondje: Where is that?
[10:32] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, I am, so that's not the problem. I can't save anything with Links.
[10:33] <hondje>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:33] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, what video cards are you using? I am currently running 4 monitors
[10:33] <PseudoPlacebo> Radeon and on-board.
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: where are you running it from?
[10:33] <Mr0bvious> crocd: How do I do that?
[10:33] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, what is the chipset of the onboard?
[10:33] <PseudoPlacebo> I don't remember offhand.
[10:33] <Mr0bvious> I chown & chgrp -R /var/www with the www-data account
[10:34] <PseudoPlacebo> Probably a radeon as well.
[10:34] <bhrobinson> very important.. there are strange things to each card
[10:34] <crocd> Mr0bvious: What run as a restricted user?
[10:34] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, From the terminal.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> Zambezi: sorry, I meant, what directory?
[10:34] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Yeah, or something.
[10:34] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, run a lspci and it should tell you
[10:34] <stinkball> how do i access shared files on a windows pc with ubuntu?
[10:35] <Zambezi> fyrestrtr, A folder in my homedirectory.
[10:35] <PseudoPlacebo> Ueaj/
[10:35] <Mr0bvious> !samba > stinkball
[10:35] <woody_sud> fyrestrtr: I installed ATI driver "ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run" but can not enable 3D hardware accel
[10:35] <PseudoPlacebo> Radepm RV1--/
[10:35] <PseudoPlacebo> Radeon RV100.
[10:35] <PseudoPlacebo> Rather.
[10:36] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, look at the numbers that are next to both video cards
[10:36] <woody_sud> dell inspiron 9400 with ati mov radeon x1400
[10:36] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, this will tell the driver where to look for the hardware
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> woody_sud: did you change xorg.conf as directed?
[10:36] <PseudoPlacebo> bhrobinson: Which numbers?
[10:36] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. G400/G450 (rev 82)
[10:37] <PseudoPlacebo> Alright.
[10:37] <crocd> MrObvious: you can always run it as nobody or apache user/group let me check some stuff.
[10:37] <PseudoPlacebo> And I want the 0000:01:00.0 ?
[10:37] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, no, that is your pci...
[10:37] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea? please PM me
[10:37] <PseudoPlacebo> Oh.
[10:37] <woody_sud> fyrestrtr: and install linux-686-smp to support dual core
[10:37] <bhrobinson> PseudoPlacebo, chat me off of here I will walk you through it all
[10:37] <PseudoPlacebo> Alright thanks.
[10:38] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Great.
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> woody_sud: you probably need to install the new kernel headers and then re-install the driver. Everytime you change the kernel, you have to re-download the new headers and build the driver again.
[10:38] <crocd> Mr0bvious: it looks like my first geuss was correct, the www-data user is the best one to use.
[10:39] <darnell> why wouldnt the ipod program even detected any instances of my ipod connected to my computer?
[10:42] <woody_sud> fyrestrtr: working on it....
[10:43] <darnell> all of you hardcore linux folks and nobody can help me with an Ipod?
[10:43] <Wipster> hey anyone know, when I set mbmon to run as a daemon I can throw it the -I command aswell because its reading from the wrong sensor
[10:44] <kaolti> anybody knows how to set up internet connection sharing in ubuntu?
[10:44] <alxandra_> when i try to install "libdbus-1-2" by apt-get, it tries to remove lots of things includin kernel. what should i do. please help ... ::::(
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> kaolti: use firestarter
[10:44] <kaolti> yes i have it
[10:44] <crocd> Mr0bvious: take a look at the link http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/cgi.html with regards to making the file executable to get  the script to run, is your www-data user just a generic normal user?
[10:44] <kaolti> but
[10:44] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: dont remove that lib its needed by the kernel. why are you even trying to remove it?
[10:45] <kaolti> when i run it it says could not start firewall eth0 device not ready
[10:45] <kaolti> Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[10:45] <kaolti> fyrestrtr: what do u think?
[10:46] <moparfan90> hello again.
[10:46] <alxandra_> gnomefreak. i am not trying to remove it i am trying to install vlc and it depends libdbud-1-2 and it wants to remove the kernel when being installed
[10:46] <kaolti> fyrestrtr: i need internet on a winxp machine
[10:46] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: what package exactly is it wanting to remove?
[10:46] <moparfan90> i fixed one error when trying to get steam to work though wine. but now i get another error thats not on that site
[10:47] <moparfan90> anyone have steam working?
[10:48] <alxandra_> gnomefreak, lots of files containing dbus, linux-386 .linux-restricted modules.... and so on
[10:48] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea? please PM me
[10:48] <treffer> hi, I've managed to kill apt-get/-cache, it segfaults all the time (tries to read the package list and dies at 0%)
[10:48] <kaolti> fyrestrtr: u there?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: paste the full message to pastebin
[10:49] <alxandra_> o.k
[10:49] <treffer> any advice? I've already tried to delete everything in /var/lib/apt/lists/ - I'm using edgy...
[10:50] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1
[10:51] <moparfan90> im trying to get steam to work though wine and i get this error.... goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22772 to see it
[10:52] <alxandra_> gnomefreak, 22771 here its number in pastebin (am i supposed to give the full url? :)
[10:52] <gnomefreak> please
[10:52] <alxandra_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22771
[10:52] <alxandra_> excuse me i am a beginner
[10:52] <hondje> moparfan90: I would guess an unimplemented function means they don't have that particular .dll in wine
[10:53] <don_jr> How can I make my IP a static IP within ubuntu?
[10:53] <moparfan90> but many people have steam installed no problem
[10:53] <Wipster> whyone know a decent cpu temp, fan rpm, page file / memory usage program?
[10:53] <Wipster> *anyone
[10:53] <broken> gkrellm
[10:53] <broken> works great wipster
[10:53] <treffer> don_jr: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:53] <don_jr> treffer thank you!
[10:54] <Wipster> yeh I'v tryed gkrellm its good but the mbmon doesn't work, the daemon reads the wrong probe
[10:54] <Wipster> it says I have a cpu temp of 127C
[10:54] <don_jr> treffer it doesn't have any Ip address' listed here, how would i put one in?
[10:54] <lupine_85> wow :)
[10:55] <treffer> don_jr: have a look at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p3
[10:55] <lupine_85> don_jr if it's DHCP you don't need to
[10:55] <hsstaf1> having problems connecting to windows shared printer
[10:56] <linuchsan> don_jr:man interfaces
[10:56] <Jonf> Can anyone tell me how I can add more repositories to the synaptics?
[10:56] <coincoin169> hello
[10:56] <don_jr> lupine_85 I knwo I shouldn't but I can't access my wireless range expander without changing it, because it's IP range is different than my network is, I have to change my computer to access the range expander to change the RE's IP to one my network will recognize.
[10:57] <treffer> has anyone ever seen "Fetched 4819kB in 10s (467kB/s)" // "Segmentation faultsts... 0%" as a result of apt-get update?
[10:57] <lupine_85> nothing wrong with using static IPs
[10:57] <Jonf> Can anyone tell me how I can add more repositories to the synaptics?
[10:57] <Kirby> AHHHHHHHHH, yesterday i got a cd in the mail for ubuntu 6.06, and the installer didnt work so i downloaded 6.06.1
[10:57] <Kirby> and it still doesnt work
[10:57] <lupine_85> change the iface ine to read "iface <interface> inet static"
[10:57] <krazykit> ubotu: tell Jonf about repos
[10:58] <lupine_85> then add the various options to following lines - e.g. "address <blah>" "netmask <blah>", etc
[10:58] <Jonf> thx krazykit
[10:58] <Kirby> can anyone help me
[10:58] <Wipster> anyone know how to set the mbmon daemon to use the ISA_IO method, I try running mbmon -I it out puts the corrent values but the daemon doesnt use that switch
[10:59] <don_jr> thank youy
[10:59] <covOPprometheus> Jonf, edit xorg.con, like 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:59] <Kirby> when i install ubuntu, can the partition be NFTS?
[10:59] <treffer> kirby: what doesn't work?
[10:59] <krazykit> Kirby: no
[10:59] <lupine_85> covOPprometheus: nano probably better for simple use :)
[10:59] <Kirby> ohhhhh
[10:59] <Kirby> what does it have to be then?
[10:59] <krazykit> Kirby: ext3 is the typical fs.
[10:59] <Kirby> oh ok
[11:00] <Kirby> cause my installer keeps going a little then just closing
[11:00] <Kirby> ill try
[11:00] <Kirby> =] 
[11:00] <Kirby> oh and
[11:00] <Kirby> my swap
[11:00] <Kirby> does it have to be swap-linux?
[11:00] <lupine_85> kirby: yes
[11:00] <krazykit> Kirby: yup.
[11:00] <Kirby> ok
[11:01] <Kirby> also
[11:01] <m4rk>  ooobooontoooo
[11:01] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Sorry lol.
[11:01] <Kirby> when i mount on my hda1 will it erase my stuff on windows?
[11:01] <Mr0bvious> crocd: I think it is. It's home dir is /var/www
[11:01] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: give me the link now
[11:01] <lupine_85> kirby: depends on how you set it up
[11:01] <krazykit> Kirby: yeah, unless you resize your windows partition
[11:01] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: sorry was working on something else
[11:01] <Kirby> well
[11:01] <Kirby> i made a partition
[11:01] <Kirby> 10 gigs
[11:01] <alxandra_> o.k here it it
[11:01] <Kirby> for the /
[11:01] <Kirby> root
[11:01] <aluno_> oi
[11:01] <alxandra_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22771
[11:01] <Kirby> and i set hda1 to /media/hda1
[11:01] <aluno_> alguem do brasil
[11:01] <Kirby> so will it?
[11:02] <aluno_> }???????????????
[11:02] <alxandra_> gnomefreak. saw it ?
[11:02] <Jonf> covOPprometheus, what do I edit to the xorg.con?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !br
[11:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:02] <woody_sud> fyrestrtr: Generating package: Ubuntu/6.06
[11:02] <woody_sud> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: line 56: dpkg-architecture: command not found
[11:02] <woody_sud> Error: unsupported architecture:
[11:02] <lupine_85> kirby: that should be fine
[11:02] <Kirby> Ok, cool
[11:02] <lupine_85> you won't be able to write to it though
[11:02] <Kirby> oh
[11:02] <Kirby> then no point in mounting
[11:02] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: yes give me a min
[11:02] <Kirby> i wont mount it then
[11:02] <krazykit> Kirby: unless you want to read it >_>
[11:02] <Kirby> oh yea
[11:02] <Kirby> i do
[11:02] <Kirby> lol
[11:02] <Kirby> yeah ill mount rofl
[11:02] <mis> I am having a problem every about 2 hours I drop out of KDE to a login prompt any idea why that might be happening
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> !ati > woody_sud
[11:03] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: what is the output of uname -r
[11:03] <Kirby> oh when i read from my hda1, i wont be able to write, but ill be able to copy right?
[11:03] <Flannel> mis: you might try asking in #kubuntu
[11:03] <hondje> copy from, yes
[11:04] <Kirby> cool =] , this will actually work out
[11:04] <Kirby> even if its NFTS?
[11:04] <hondje> yeah, read support for NTFS is stable
[11:04] <Kirby> oh ok cool
[11:04] <hondje> write is another story :)
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Kirby: copy from ntfs to another is fine
[11:04] <gnomefreak> copy to ntfs is unsafe
[11:04] <alxandra_> gnomefreak . 2.6.12-9-386
[11:04] <eod_punk> anyone know how to make gdesklet applets remember their possition on the desktop?
[11:04] <Kirby> yeah awesome, thanks this is way better support than windows
[11:05] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: dont install that package
[11:05] <alxandra_> it is breezy badger
[11:05] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: what are you trying to install again?
[11:05] <mis> Hey just happened again right now while i was typing here I drop to the Ubuntu login screen for no reason
[11:05] <alxandra_> so how will i install vlc
[11:05] <gnomefreak> !vlc
[11:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:05] <alxandra_> i wanted to install vlc player
[11:05] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: sudo apt-get install vlc?
[11:05] <alxandra_> yes it depends on this library
[11:05] <gnomefreak> !info vlc
[11:05] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[11:05] <alxandra_> libdbud1-2
[11:06] <alxandra_> sorry libdbus-1-2
[11:06] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: than its not likely it will play well with breezy why not upgrade to dapper?
[11:06] <aSt3raL_> im having trouble getting xmms-shell to work it was working before and now it wont it says xmms is not running under session identifier 0
[11:06] <gnomefreak> !info libdbus-1-2 breezy
[11:06] <ubotu> Package libdbus-1-2 does not exist in breezy
[11:06] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: ^^^ thats why
[11:06] <alxandra_> i have a breezy installer cd and i ve just installed th o,s
[11:07] <gnomefreak> alxandra_: i recommend upgrading to dapper
[11:07] <Fenix> hello. i am running xgl with compiz-vanilla. everything is more or less ok but window resizing is very slow and unusable. could someone help me with this?
[11:07] <alxandra_> hmm the problem is breezy h?
[11:07] <Kirby> qAHHHHHHH wow so close almost format my hda1 LOL
[11:07] <gnomefreak> Fenix: ask in #ubuntu-xgl please
[11:07] <moparfan90> error:
[11:07] <moparfan90> wine:
[11:07] <moparfan90>   Depends: libartsc0 (>=1.5.2-0) but 1.3.2-3 is to be installed
[11:07] <moparfan90> how do i get this?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> moparfan90: what version of ubuntu?
[11:07] <moparfan90> 6.06.1
[11:08] <Fenix> gnomefreak: ok tnx
[11:08] <gnomefreak> Fenix: yw
[11:08] <gnomefreak> !info libartsc0
[11:08] <ubotu> libartsc0: aRts sound system C support library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 68 kB
[11:08] <nozorro> hi all
[11:08] <gnomefreak> moparfan90: you need to do your updates
[11:08] <moparfan90> ok
[11:08] <gnomefreak> moparfan90: 1.5.2-0ubuntu1 is the dapper version
[11:09] <aSt3raL_> anyone know about xmms sessions?
[11:09] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea? please PM me
[11:09] <moparfan90> ooo
[11:09] <moparfan90> ok
[11:09] <Otacon22> how can i make possibile to see a avi video from shell with characters?
[11:10] <moparfan90> forgot to open the backport and all that stuff
[11:10] <mcphail> Otacon22: with mplayer
[11:10] <Otacon22> tnx
[11:12] <Wipster> please does anyone know how I can start the mbmon daemon at start with a parameter?
[11:12] <patron> hi
[11:13] <_azrael> Wipster: Look into /etc/rc.local
[11:13] <lupine_85> Wipster: add it to your crontab?
[11:13] <lupine_85> @reboot <command>
[11:13] <lupine_85> IIRC
[11:13] <Wipster> <------ is totaly new to linux
[11:14] <_azrael> Wipster: Commands added to the /etc/rc.local script are run at boot time immediately after all other bootscripts.
[11:15] <blurd> hi
[11:15] <blurd> im trying to install java but i got an error
[11:15] <Wipster> ah right, so disable the default start as daemon in the config file and whack it in there then?
[11:15] <gusto5> blurd, what error?
[11:15] <JanHammer> woop
[11:16] <blurd> uhh
[11:16] <blurd> sorry if i do this wrong
[11:16] <blurd> The filename "jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin" indicates that this file is of type "unknown". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "shell script". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[11:16] <blurd> Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "shell script", then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a specific application for the file.
[11:16] <blurd> woops sorry
[11:16] <blurd> wrong one xD
[11:16] <blurd> chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[11:16] <blurd> > root@ubuntu:/usr/java #
[11:16] <gusto5> you can get java from the repos...
[11:16] <blurd> thats the one
[11:17] <gusto5> blurd, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:17] <gusto5> or are you upgrading it?
[11:17] <JanHammer> Issue: The default ubuntu config for X causes it to lock up on starting up X. And since you need to actually START X anymore to install ubuntu I need to know how to edit it (in windows) and fix it.
[11:18] <JanHammer> erm
[11:18] <JanHammer> need to rephrase
[11:18] <jrattner1> QUESTION: What is the estimated release date of dapper
[11:18] <meanjean> does anyone know if Ubuntu comes with gcc?  I'm trying to install Emacs and I keep getting the following error:configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[11:18] <_azrael> JanHammer: Alternate install does not require X to install.
[11:19] <nozorro> meanjean: install build-essential
[11:19] <JanHammer> Issue: The default ubuntu config for X causes it to lock up on starting up X. And since you need to actually START X anymore to install ubuntu I need to know how to edit it (in windows) and fix it. It's not installed so I need to unpack the iso and then change all of that and burn it.
[11:19] <JanHammer> oh
[11:19] <JanHammer> ?
[11:19] <blurd> it says E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive fot it.
[11:19] <JanHammer> _azrael, is this an apparent option on the disc? I've never actually /used/ it
[11:19] <fatbrain> What is a good TV-Viewing application for ubuntu?
[11:19] <fatbrain> I have a saa713x card
[11:20] <tam> hey, does anyone know the correct syntax in rar to add directores, rar a file.rar directory/ doesn't work properly (i also have sub directories under that)
[11:20] <DJGummikuh> hey
[11:20] <_azrael> JanHammer: It's a different disc.
[11:20] <DJGummikuh> is a sshd automatically installed?
[11:20] <_azrael> JanHammer: It's usually available for download right alongside the standard ubuntu disc.
[11:21] <JanHammer> hm
[11:21] <blurd> gusto5
[11:21] <JanHammer> _azrael, ubuntu LTS?
[11:21] <treffer> I've a gdb/bt of the apt crash - looks VERY bad: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22774
[11:21] <JanHammer> erm
[11:21] <shut-> what is the usb one for              Model/Driver for canonpixip1600    Model:
[11:21] <gusto5> blurd, one sec. let me give it a shot.
[11:22] <JanHammer> _azrael, ubuntu server?
[11:22] <phaedrus44> what is the command to see how much disk space i have left?
[11:22] <shut-> its a usb
[11:22] <hondje> phaedrus44: df -h
[11:22] <phaedrus44> thanks a nmillion
[11:22] <hondje> Yep yep :)
[11:22] <shut-> can i paste the list of modles
[11:22] <shut-> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <treffer> any ideas how I should repair that? dpkg to reinstall apt?
[11:23] <Masqy> hi, in the ubuntu I've upgraded from breezey, the auto-completion does not change ~ to /home/username , in 6.06 clear installationm, it does. How can I control this feature?
[11:24] <Kirby> permission to ask question pls
[11:24] <Kirby> questions*
[11:24] <_azrael> JanHammer: No. There's Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Alternate, Ubuntu server, all right next to each other on the download page.
[11:24] <Mr0bvious> crocd: I think I found the problem.
[11:24] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Always check the error logs.
[11:24] <_azrael> !ask > Kirby
[11:24] <Mr0bvious> [Wed Sep 06 14:27:23 2006]  [error]  (2)No such file or directory: Couldn't bind unix domain socket /var/run/apache2/cgisock
[11:24] <Mr0bvious> [Wed Sep 06 14:27:23 2006]  [error]  cgid daemon process died, restarting
[11:24] <Kirby> when done installing, and i take out the cd, will i have the choice to pick win and linux, or will i have to tap F8
[11:24] <Kirby> like when i reboot
[11:24] <Kirby> when i open comp
[11:24] <treffer> no f8
[11:25] <shut-> what modle is a usb
[11:25] <Kirby> ok so does win start as default?
[11:25] <treffer> kirby: a menu will showup at startup
[11:25] <Kirby> Oh ok
[11:25] <Kirby> Menu =]  good
[11:25] <Kirby> loving that
[11:25] <Kirby> ok let me think what my other ques was i forgot
[11:25] <kaolti> i have to share internet connection on ubuntu with a winxp machine can anybody help pls?
[11:26] <DJGummikuh> how do you start sshd under ubuntu? a friend of mine fails at that point because no keys were generated
[11:26] <crocd> Mr0bvious: always good, good nite and good luck
[11:26] <treffer> kaolti: do you want to be a router?
[11:26] <lupine_85> kaolti: enable IP forwarding and you're good to go
[11:26] <shut-> anyone gonna help me
[11:26] <hondje> DJGummikuh: If it's installed, /etc/init.d/ssh start should do it
[11:26] <DJGummikuh> hondje: it complains about missing keys
[11:26] <Kirby> hm i frogt my other ques lol
[11:26] <kaolti> well...i connect directly to the internet on eth1 and im connected to a winxp box with eth0
[11:27] <hondje> maybe he needs to run ssh-keygen
[11:27] <kaolti> i tried firestarter but it says device not ready eth0
[11:27] <Kirby> OH
[11:27] <treffer> kaolti: you will need ip forwarding and you should check your iptables config - you'll propably like dnsmasq (a dhcp/dns server)
[11:27] <shut-> :(
[11:27] <kaolti> i dunno how to do ip forwarding
[11:27] <Veeper> Hello everyone, I'm looking for the 4.1 g++ package, under Dapper Drake
[11:27] <shut-> no one is helping me :(
[11:27] <nozorro> kaolti: best/easiest way is to install firestarter (includes fvirewall) and use that
[11:27] <Kirby> Does linux have any virus and firewall and adware/spyware protection available?
[11:27] <kaolti> ifconfig?
[11:27] <Veeper> I found nothing on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <JanHammer> _azrael, got it, thanks
[11:28] <Kirby> like what do i basically need to protect my ubuntu
[11:28] <treffer> kaolti: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[11:28] <kaolti> nozorro i just mentioned before that firestarter gives me the error device is not ready eth0
[11:28] <lupine_85> Kirby: not that you really need it, but AVG has a linux version IIRC
[11:28] <mwe> kaolti: firestarter can do ip forwarding for you
[11:28] <lupine_85>  ip_forwarding !
[11:28] <Kirby> Hmm...
[11:28] <DJGummikuh> how do I fix it if it says 'could not load host keys rsa and dsa blah blah blubb'
[11:28] <Kirby> why do i not need it?
[11:28] <nozorro> kaolti: oh sorry, overlooked
[11:28] <mwe> kaolti: you need to bring up eth0 if it isn't though
[11:28] <kaolti> i have it active
[11:28] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Thanks and all, but any ideas on how to fix that problem?
[11:28] <kaolti> it says active at the network connections
[11:28] <treffer> kaolit: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <eth_internet> -j MASQUERADE
[11:28] <shut-> ok does anyone one here know how to add a printer
[11:29] <Kirby> oh well =o ill cya guys linux is awesome as f by the way
[11:29] <mwe> kaolti: but firestarter doesn't see it?
[11:29] <lupine_85> treffer: no real point NATing a NATed address
[11:29] <kaolti> Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[11:29] <lupine_85> stick the windows PC into a different IP range, and stick a static route on the router
[11:29] <DJGummikuh> help please :(
[11:29] <treffer> lupin_85: ? what's the problem - work's flawless for my home router
[11:29] <mwe> kaolti: if you type ifconfig in a terminal does it show eth0?
[11:30] <robbbb> anyone ever looked at onesixtyone snmp scanner?
[11:30] <robbbb> i cant work out how to use it!
[11:30] <kaolti> mwe: yes
[11:30] <shut-> :(
[11:30] <blurd> gusto5 it takes that long?
[11:30] <Mr0bvious> crocd: Nevermind.
[11:30] <mwe> kaolti: and you can ping the windows machine?
[11:30] <kaolti> no
[11:31] <lupine_85> double NAT is not generally a good idea
[11:31] <sharperguy> ping? I say whack it with a mallot
[11:31] <hondje> But it's twice as nat-tastic
[11:31] <kitche> kaolti: make sure that the linux machine and the windows machine is int eh same subnet
[11:31] <sharperguy> whacking things useually makes them work anyway
[11:31] <mwe> kaolti: eth0 is probably not configured then unless windows is firewalled
[11:32] <bhrobinson> hey does anyone know when ubuntu will release the update to Evolution?
[11:32] <treffer> k, so I should simply add -i <in_device> to fix that, right?
[11:32] <Arcad3> b
[11:32] <lupine_85> kaolti: give eth0 a static address on a different range to your current Internet interface
[11:33] <blurd> Okay when i try to update my ubuntu it says this: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[11:33] <blurd> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[11:33] <bhrobinson> or has anyone compiled 2.8.0 on 6.06?
[11:33] <shut-> who here knows the modle for a usb
[11:33] <hondje> bhrobinson: IIRC once a release is made, the only updates are security patches
[11:33] <tuxtux> notte @all
[11:33] <lupine_85> give the windows PC a static address in that range as well, and set it's default gateway to be the linux machine
[11:33] <KomiaPoika> anyone knows how to enter bios of toshiba tecra laptpo?
[11:33] <blurd> Okay when i try to update my ubuntu it says this: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. ~ What do i do ???
[11:33] <kaolti> all: its getting complicated :|
[11:33] <kaolti> so
[11:33] <lupine_85> then add a static route on the router to forward packets destined to the windows PC's IP range to the linux machine
[11:34] <lupine_85> and you're done
[11:34] <kaolti> i'll explain the whole setup
[11:34] <bhrobinson> hondje, too bad... have you seen the new version?
[11:34] <DJGummikuh> I need help because a friend's sshd won't generate the keys by himself
[11:34] <hondje> bhrobinson: No, not yet
[11:34] <shut-> i got a problem
[11:34] <shut-> i dont know what one is the usb
[11:34] <kaolti> i have a winxp box with a local area connection and manually set ip 192.168.0.2
[11:34] <kaolti> subnet mask 255.255.255.0
[11:34] <bhrobinson> hondje, very nice. closer to the Outlook stuff
[11:34] <foo> I installed imagemagick9 .. but import isn't in there. What package do I need for that? It will allow me to take screen shots
[11:35] <robbbb> has anyone ever used onesixtyone? it's an snmp scanner. i cant seem to work out how to use it?
[11:35] <johnstar> is there a way to install windows after installing ubutnu without destroying it?
[11:36] <blurd> yes
[11:36] <nozorro> kaolti: and eth0 on the ubuntu machine has which address/netmask?
[11:36] <mwe> johnstar: indeed
[11:36] <blurd> johnstar: before u do anything always format ur stuff incase u loose it if u mess up
[11:36] <kaolti> honestly i dont know.how do i check it?
[11:36] <DShepherd> blurd: format? or backup?
[11:36] <blurd> backup
[11:36] <blurd> :P
[11:37] <mwe> johnlittle: asuming you have a partition for windows to use it's straight forward. install windows then reinstall grub
[11:37] <nozorro> kaolti: ifconfig again ...
[11:37] <DShepherd> k
[11:37] <blurd> wait
[11:37] <mwe> johnstar: ^^
[11:37] <blurd> back it up
[11:37] <blurd> on cd
[11:37] <nozorro> kaolti: or the Networking config. app on the desktop
[11:37] <blurd> then format winxp
[11:37] <blurd> (safest way)
[11:37] <robbbb> anyone got an snmp dictionary file?
[11:37] <kaolti> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:44:93:9B:AD
[11:37] <kaolti>           inet6 addr: fe80::202:44ff:fe93:9bad/64 Scope:Link
[11:37] <kaolti>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[11:37] <kaolti>           RX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[11:37] <kaolti>           TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[11:37] <johnstar> what is the command to reinstall grub?
[11:37] <kaolti>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[11:37] <kaolti>           RX bytes:3167 (3.0 KiB)  TX bytes:6624 (6.4 KiB)
[11:37] <kaolti>           Interrupt:185 Base address:0xc400
[11:37] <mwe> kaolti: don't paste here
[11:37] <kaolti> sry
[11:37] <kaolti> yea sry
[11:37] <kaolti> i forgot
[11:37] <kaolti> pastebin
[11:38] <mwe> johnstar: you need to boot a live cd to do it
[11:38] <treffer> ok, apt-get-0.6.43.3ubuntu2 does not segfault - i'll reinstall 0.6.45 and give it a try - where should I fill a bugreport if this package is broken in edgy?
[11:38] <DShepherd> johnstar: reinstal the package grub?
[11:38] <erUSUL> !paste > kaolti
[11:38] <brian98> Hello all.... Problem running firefox on ubuntu with dual head config. It will only let me run on one monitor at a time.. If i try to run on second monitor I get an error 'Firefox is already running but is not responding. to open a new windows, you must first close the existing firefox process, or restart your system'
[11:38] <treffer> now it works :(
[11:38] <hondje> foo: dpkg -L imagemagick | grep import on this dapper install says it's with imagemagick
[11:38] <mwe> johnstar: just after installing windows linux will not be visible
[11:38] <brian98> just an annoyance more than anything
[11:38] <kaolti> nozorro:?
[11:38] <brian98> but I'd like to try and sort it!
[11:39] <nozorro> kaolti: well it has an ipv6 address, unreadable to me :-)
[11:39] <kaolti> nozorro:...
[11:39] <johnstar> can a backup grub to a usb thumb? that would seem to be easyest
[11:39] <foo> hondje: er, thanks. I tried that
[11:39] <blurd> w.e someone help me im trying to install java this was an error on terminal said: Okay when i try to update my ubuntu it says this: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. ~ What do i do ???
[11:39] <treffer> thanks for you hints, upgrade is running, good night!
[11:39] <bhrobinson> brian98, you need to add Option "xinerama" "on" to the xorg.conf
[11:39] <DShepherd> !java
[11:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:39] <mwe> johnstar: don't do that.
[11:40] <mwe> johnstar: read !grub
[11:40] <blurd> DS
[11:40] <brian98> bhrobinson: your a star
[11:40] <brian98> This has been doing my brain in!
[11:40] <mwe> johnstar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:40] <brian98> and I coulnd't find the answer anywhere!!
[11:40] <bhrobinson> brian98, lol... no biggie... add it to the Serverlayout section
[11:40] <blurd> w.e someone help me im trying to install java this was an error on terminal said: Okay when i try to update my ubuntu it says this: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. ~ What do i do ???
[11:40] <james296> so is there anyone here that uses Ubuntu for games?
[11:40] <mwe> johnstar: it's not hard
[11:41] <DShepherd> !java > blurd
[11:41] <kaolti> nozorro: ifound where to set the ip of eth0. 192.168.0.1 is ok?
[11:41] <blurd> no
[11:41] <blurd> i dont need java instructions
[11:41] <bhrobinson> brian98, I just helped another guy... here is his xorg.conf    http://pastebin.ca/162817
[11:41] <mwe> james296: well I play lmarbles and frozen bubbles
[11:41] <brian98> Superb
[11:41] <nozorro> kaolti: yep, should be ok, netmaks the same as on win machine
[11:41] <brian98> bh: Can I ask you another q
[11:41] <moustafa> Help me please
[11:41] <nozorro> *netmask
[11:41] <angasule> can anyone recommend me a replacement for MS Project 2002? I tried Planner, but it apparently can't load Project files, so it's useless
[11:41] <kaolti> nozorro what gateway?
[11:41] <broken> anyone know how to start xephyr? there is nothing that looks like a binary in slocate
[11:41] <moustafa> i want to open the Wmv. files
[11:41] <bhrobinson> brian98, that is why I am here... ask away
[11:41] <mwe> james296: but I asume you mean windows games?
[11:41] <james296> lol I mean games like Halflife 2 Doom 3 and World of Warcraft
[11:42] <johnstar> :) thanks 4 link
[11:42] <moustafa> and i download w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[11:42] <ladydoor> james296: check out winex/cedega
[11:42] <moustafa> and installed it
[11:42] <mcphail> james296: Doom 3 is easy enough. As is quake4
[11:42] <shut-> how come when i hit print it dont print
[11:42] <james296> really?
[11:42] <moustafa> what can i do eles to open the Wmv. files
[11:42] <moustafa> ?
[11:42] <mcphail> james296: there are native linux versions
[11:42] <broken> world of warcraft works in wine
[11:42] <moustafa> please help me
[11:42] <kaolti> nozorro: still here?
[11:42] <james296> yeah but dont you have to pay for Cedenga?
[11:42] <brian98> bhrobinson: On my old windoze box I used to have a 'dual head' setup... Now, I have two seperate desktops on my nix box now and thats great but on the windows machine I used to be able to drag an app from one screen to the other. I'm just wondering is that possible. It's no biggie but it's dead handy..
[11:43] <moustafa> Do you heard me?
[11:43] <nozorro> kaolti no gateway should be ok
[11:43] <moustafa> do anyone hear me?
[11:43] <brian__> angasule - i don't think there is a linux package that will open project files
[11:43] <mcphail> james296: doom3 and quake4 do not need cedega, wine or anything else
[11:43] <mwe> james296: My life is too short to spend a week or a day just to get a game to run in linux. doom3 and quake/unreal is easy enough though
[11:43] <kaolti> nozorro: i think i got it.now firestarter starts ok
[11:43] <moustafa> thanks
[11:43] <moustafa> bye bye
[11:43] <bhrobinson> brian98, that is what that line will do for you... put it in to your xorg.conf, and then press ctrl alt backspace... this will restart the GUI
[11:43] <nozorro> kaolti: some patience pls. when waiting for answers :-)
[11:43] <angasule> brian__: :( thanks for the answer, though
[11:43] <bhrobinson> brian98, and all will be as it was
[11:44] <moustafa> no body helped me
[11:44] <james296> is it easy to get WoW running smoothly on Ubuntu?
[11:44] <moustafa> that's very good
[11:44] <kaolti> nozorry :D ok sorry
[11:44] <CorpseFeeder> can anyone help me with installing a wireless card? I am trying to follow instructions at http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rt61 for a Dlink DWL-G510, but I am just getting a screen full of warnings and errors.
[11:44] <ladydoor> !patience
[11:44] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:44] <brian98> Ok.. BRB! And many thanks!!!!! :)
[11:44] <brian__> moustafa - wmv files ?
[11:44] <moustafa> yes
[11:44] <moustafa> please
[11:44] <mwe> james296: I think not unfortunately. If you're persistant you might get it to work eventually though
[11:44] <nozorro> kaolti: nozorry <--- lol
[11:44] <brian98> corpsefeeder: I have got that card going if you have a few mins I will be back and I'll dig out the instructions.
[11:44] <moustafa> Hello Brain
[11:44] <dmembrane> java support....plz
[11:44] <brian__> !restricted formats
[11:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:44] <kaolti> nozorro: omg sry
[11:44] <lupine_85>  CorpseFeeder: are you having trouble building the module?
[11:45] <brian__> those links should help you moustafa
[11:45] <moustafa> thank you very much
[11:45] <nozorro> kaolti: can you now ping from win to eth0 on ubuntu?
[11:45] <james296> well I have a custom made PC with a AMD Athlon 64 bit processor thats dual cored
[11:45] <cynikal> moustafa: if you have w32codecs installed, you can play wmv files just fine. You cant play drm'd files though
[11:45] <CorpseFeeder> yes i get all the errors when I do make all
[11:45] <matty-d> hello ubuntu
[11:45] <james296> 1 gig of RAM
[11:45] <moustafa> aha
[11:45] <moustafa> very good
[11:45] <james296> and a Geforce FX 5500 graphics card
[11:45] <mwe> james296: even worse
[11:45] <lupine_85> ok; and what kernel are you using? (uname -r if you're not sure)
[11:45] <moustafa> what can i do to open these files
[11:45] <moustafa> ?
[11:45] <cynikal> moustafa: you can open them with totem or mplayer
[11:45] <james296> what do you mean even worse?
[11:46] <Lysit> High everyone, just installed ubuntu (5.04 I believe, thats the only disc I had lying around) everything is fine expect the wired network, it had no problems reaching internal address (Eg Remote desktop to this computer/web interface of router) but won't load up any webpages or ping them. Any ideas?
[11:46] <xbehave2> are there any good dos emulators for ubuntu or am i best of using my 2nd hard drive to install freedos or some permenant dos install
[11:46] <moustafa> i have mplayer
[11:46] <kaolti> nozorro: yes ping works
[11:46] <matty-d> I'm having a real problem getting my dual headed nvidia card working under ubuntu with my montiros. I've followed the guide in the wiki and get the dirver installed and working, the modules loaded and glx enabled
[11:46] <mwe> james296: unless you install ubuntu 32 bit or a 32 bit chroot WoW is out of the question on 64 bit AFAIK
[11:46] <moustafa> but not working very well
[11:46] <moustafa> how can i  install totem?
[11:46] <matty-d> however getting the monitors to work at the correct resolutions is being a pain
[11:46] <james296> 2.6.15-26-386
[11:46] <cynikal> moustafa: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[11:46] <evi|one> Hello. I have a problem. I have two NICs. The first one is always eth0. For some reason, the second one is sometimes eth1, sometimes eth2. Is there any way I can force it to be eth1?
[11:46] <matty-d> I was wondering if someone could offer some advice please
[11:46] <nozorro> kaolti: and ping from win to google.com?
[11:46] <cynikal> moustafa: sudo apt-get install totem
[11:46] <moustafa> thank you
[11:46] <ladydoor> xbehave2: try dosbox, maybe
[11:46] <cynikal> moustafa: np
[11:46] <mcphail> james296: if you want games, don't install 64bit
[11:46] <mwe> james296: not the kernel. the ubuntu version
[11:46] <kaolti> nozorry: 1 sec i'll check but i dont think so :)
[11:46] <kaolti> OMG
[11:47] <kaolti> *nozorro
[11:47] <shut-> i guess i am not gonna be helped :(
[11:47] <bhrobinson> shut-, what is your issue?
[11:47] <james296> so I cant play WoW on this???
[11:47] <mwe> james296: run the 32bit ubuntu version or a 32bit chroot to run WoW I think. then spend a few days getting the game to run
[11:47] <shut-> cant get my printer setup
[11:47] <MASTER-PIGEON> PLZZZZZZZZZZZ - HELP ME INSTAL L LINUCKZ, so i can OWN in WOW on WINE
[11:47] <james296> how do I do that?
[11:47] <ladydoor> !patience > shut-
[11:47] <lupine_85> james296: it's supported under Cedega
[11:47] <MASTER-PIGEON> ThANX
[11:47] <ladydoor> !caps
[11:47] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:48] <brian__> what printer do you have shut?
[11:48] <james296> which I have to pay for, right?
[11:48] <mwe> james296: I'm not on 64bit there is a wiki I think
[11:48] <lupine_85> subscription-based
[11:48] <ladydoor> !spelling
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spelling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <MASTER-PIGEON> HELP ME INSTALL LInuckZ - so I CAN JeRK oFF to PORN ON FiREFoX
[11:48] <lupine_85> ~9 for 3 months, then you can cancel and keep using your current version
[11:48] <kaolti> nozorro: it doesnt work
[11:48] <ladydoor> !mods
[11:48] <MASTER-PIGEON> ([11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <mcphail> !ops
[11:48] <lupine_85> MASTER-PIGEON: plonk
[11:48] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:48] <evi|one> Any help for me?
[11:48] <MASTER-PIGEON> _/\*/\_ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ([11:49] <nalioth> gnomefreak: got it
[11:49] <mcphail> thanks
[11:49] <ladydoor> evi|one: what's the problem?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> i see
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:49] <lolmg> do any of you guys know how to copy something to the clipboard from a shell script ?
[11:49] <shut-> so can u please help me get my printer to work
[11:49] <bhrobinson> shut-, what printer are you using?
[11:49] <nozorro> kaolti: have you closed Network SEttings config app on ubuntu with OK after changing? do you have set gateway for eth1?
[11:49] <shut-> its a canon pixma ip 1600
[11:49] <dmembrane> difficult time installing flash...help anyone?
[11:50] <bhrobinson> shut-, you have CUPS functionong?
[11:50] <evi|one> ladydoor: I have two NICs. The first one is always eth0. For some reason, the second one is sometimes identified as eth1, sometimes as eth2. Is there any way I can force it to be eth1?
[11:50] <eod_punk> dmembrane, i can't get it working either
[11:50] <shut-> yes
[11:50] <james296> how can I get Cedega for free?
[11:50] <shut-> i have cups
[11:50] <mcphail> james296: you don't
[11:50] <shut-> but dont know how to use it
[11:50] <ladydoor> evi|one: i don't know, sorry. you might ask this one "out loud"
[11:50] <gubluntu> xserver-org is missing, anyone know how i get it back?
[11:50] <mwe> mcphail: well the cvs version is free isn't it?
[11:50] <matty-d> gubluntu: re-install
[11:50] <evi|one> ladydoor: I did ask it out loud. Twice.
[11:51] <james296> well I dont have a credit card for it...
[11:51] <edgy> Hi, rdiff-backup --include lists --exclude lists/mail --exclude '*' / bar should mean this command should mean bacup the lists directory but not the mail directory inside it and nothing else and put it on a folder bar but it backs up the folder mail too, any hint?
[11:51] <gubluntu> re-install what
[11:51] <matty-d> xorg
[11:51] <mcphail> mwe: is it? Don't you still have to subscribe?
[11:51] <gubluntu> whats the pkg name?
[11:51] <bhrobinson> gubluntu, xorg.conf is missing?
[11:51] <matty-d> xserver-xorg
[11:51] <kaolti> nozorro: i did but no gateway is set on the eth0 (ubuntu)
[11:51] <mwe> mcphail: AFAIK no
[11:51] <gubluntu> nope
[11:51] <ladydoor> evi|one: ah. then probably nobody knows. i'm sorry. you might try posting on the forums (ubuntuforums.org), which have a large readership/postership
[11:51] <brian__> shut - according to www.linuxprinting.org printer database, you are outta luck
[11:51] <mcphail> james296: cedega is a nasty piece of software, anyway
[11:51] <shut-> :(
[11:51] <brian__> http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Canon
[11:51] <evi|one> ladydoor: ok, thanks
[11:51] <brian__> sorry, i just went through the same thing
[11:51] <Crippy-Boy> Is it possible to apply the ubuntu kernel patches t
[11:51] <ladydoor> evi|one: np...sorry i couldn't help more
[11:51] <brian__> HP is good stuff, overall, IMO
[11:51] <james296> then what should I use to play WoW?
[11:51] <Crippy-Boy> to a vanilla kernel *
[11:52] <shut-> hmm
[11:52] <brian__> i would recommend snagging one of those
[11:52] <nozorro> kaolti: and i assume you can connect from ubuntu machine?
[11:52] <hondje> james296: Your windows partition?
[11:52] <nozorro> kaolti: to internet i mean
[11:52] <james296> I reformatted the HD completely to this
[11:52] <brian__> i found one brand new for sale locally for $40
[11:52] <bhrobinson> gubluntu, I would boot off the cd and copy the file over
[11:52] <mwe> james296: I don't wanna promote windows but personally I still keep it on another machine for games
[11:52] <kaolti> nozorro: yes im using it right now
[11:52] <CorpseFeeder> where's that brian98 gone?...
[11:52] <mcphail> james296: some people use wine
[11:52] <gubluntu> what file?
[11:52] <shut-> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP6000d
[11:52] <kaolti> nozorro: i also set sharing with firestarter
[11:52] <shut-> i think thats it
[11:52] <CarlFK> can everything in the main repo (like MySQL) be used for commercial use for free?
[11:52] <moustafa> Brain
[11:52] <nozorro> kaolti: hmm running out of ideas but you are sure all firestarter settings are correct?
[11:53] <bhrobinson> CorpseFeeder, he is rebooting... we changed his xorg.conf
[11:53] <mwe> james296: most games don't work even in cedega
[11:53] <mcphail> james296: directx support in wine is beginning to exceed that in cedega
[11:53] <xbehave2> is there a global shortcut that will force a window to give up focus in ubuntu?
[11:53] <hondje> CarlFK: Sure, the GPL doesn't care what you do with it, just what you do to the cod
[11:53] <bean-oh> anyone get ubuntu running on a IBM hs20 blade?
[11:53] <hondje> s/cod/code
[11:53] <dmembrane> difficulty installing flash....help?
[11:53] <mcphail> james296: cedega is a very, very poor piece of software
[11:53] <zoidberg> hey guys
[11:53] <CarlFK> hondje: thats what I thought.  thanks
[11:53] <shut-> hello
[11:53] <gubluntu> bhrobinson, what file?
[11:53] <moustafa> Thanks brain for helping me
[11:53] <zoidberg> is there anyway to make STEAM work with ubuntu?
[11:53] <hondje> No problem
[11:54] <xbehave2> acording to guides you can use wine, but i failed
[11:54] <kaolti> nozorro: well...internet connected devide eth1, local network connected device eth0, ICS enabled, DHCP for local network disabled
[11:54] <bhrobinson> gubluntu, what file does it say is missing?
[11:54] <mwe> zoidberg: It's a pain
[11:54] <broken> warning, steam my be hot
[11:54] <brian__> shut - you might have luck then...i saw the regular 1600 model in the 'paperweight' column
[11:54] <adiddy> why doe sit say 807 total?
[11:54] <james296> yeah is there a way to make STEAM work in Ubuntu so I can play HL 2?
[11:54] <zoidberg> mwe: how much of a pain?
[11:54] <shut-> where
[11:54] <nozorro> kaolti: one idea: firestart might block ping packets, can be changed though
[11:54] <mwe> zoidberg: too much for me to bother
[11:54] <gubluntu> when trying to run dpkg-xserver -reconfig, it says xserver-org is missing
[11:54] <kaolti> nozorro: but on the win box do i have to set gateways or somethin else then ip?
[11:54] <gubluntu> but xserver-org is not a pkg
[11:54] <Lysit> Hi everyone, just installed ubuntu (5.04 I believe, thats the only disc I had lying around) everything is fine expect the wired network, it had no problems reaching internal address (Eg Remote desktop to this computer/web interface of router) but won't load up any webpages or ping them. Any ideas?
[11:55] <xbehave2> steam != hl2
[11:55] <adiddy> get an xbox
[11:55] <hondje> Run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:55] <erUSUL> gubluntu: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:55] <james296> I have one HL 2 sucks for xbox
[11:55] <gubluntu> k
[11:55] <gubluntu> one sec
[11:55] <brian__> lysit - some of the older ubuntu versions did NOT set the default gateway correctly
[11:55] <CorpseFeeder> ok, while he's gone maybe someone else can help me with installing the Dlink DWL-G510 card... all the errors/warnings I am getting I have posted here on the forum http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251802
[11:55] <mwe> zoidberg: I got it to work a year ago or so. then steam updated and it broke and I gave up fixing it
[11:55] <xopher> zoidberg, I wouldnt say it was a pain at all, using cedega atm and it works fineish
[11:55] <nozorro> kaolti: yes of course, on the win box the gateway is the (firewalling/routing) ubuntu box, that is eth0
[11:55] <_DvP_> Can I have some help with REVU plz ? (password problem) ?
[11:55] <adiddy> ubuntu 6 lts is broken
[11:55] <xbehave2> adiddy as a hl2 player im going to pretend u didnt say that the xbox version is a joke even the guy in the game store told me not to get it
[11:56] <Powerbook`> My Shipit cds already shiped, how long about do they take to the US?
[11:56] <shut-> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP1600
[11:56] <adiddy> i didn't say it was ajoke
[11:56] <Lysit> Brian, I tried changing it manually in the GUI, is that the best way to set default gateway?
[11:56] <mwe> zoidberg: well maybe with cedega I don't know
[11:56] <shut-> thats what i need
[11:56] <kaolti> nozorro: so on the win box ip: 192.168.0.2 gateway 192.168.0.1?
[11:56] <adiddy> xbox is very nice hardware
[11:56] <shut-> :P
[11:56] <shut-> but how do i install it
[11:56] <Powerbook`> My Shipit cds already shipped, how long about do they take to the US?
[11:56] <broken> adiddy: i have the same problem
[11:56] <gubluntu> erUSUL, pacage 'xserver-org' is not installed and no information is available
[11:56] <adiddy> amrox won't work in live mode
[11:56] <xe||> the ubuntu stickers in the shipit packages rock :-)
[11:56] <broken> anyone know how to start up xserver-xephyr
[11:56] <adiddy> its freezes my box
[11:57] <adiddy> i got mine
[11:57] <mcphail> gubluntu: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:57] <gubluntu> 6.06
[11:57] <Powerbook`> xe||: how long did it take to get there after they shipped?
[11:57] <nozorro> kaolti: on the win box gateway must be set to internal network address fo your ubuntu box, eth0 afair
[11:57] <adiddy> 6 weeks
[11:57] <adiddy> maybe less
[11:57] <hondje> gubluntu: Again, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' , not xserver-org
[11:57] <bhrobinson> brian98, did it work?
[11:57] <xe||> Powerbook`: about two or three weeks, don't remember exactly - but i live in austria...
[11:57] <erUSUL> gubluntu: is xerver-xorg you are typing it wrong at least in irc
[11:57] <kaolti> nozorro: ok thanks a lot i got it now
[11:58] <xbehave2> is there shortcut like alt-ctrl-del or even just the win key in windows that overrides everything and grabs focus or atlease changes it
[11:58] <nozorro> kaolti: reaching the internet from win?
[11:58] <erUSUL> gubluntu: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' <-- copy paste this
[11:58] <brian98> bhrobinson: It worked perfect but my 3d support seems to have gone down the shoot :(
[11:58] <brian98> grm
[11:58] <brian98> hrm I mean
[11:58] <dmembrane> hiya
[11:58] <bhrobinson> brian98, yeah, that happens
[11:58] <xe||> is there already a nice .deb package for xgl?
[11:58] <dmembrane> difficulty installing flash...help plz?
[11:58] <adiddy> i love the new look of 6 but the screen save r thing need sto be more "tweaked"
[11:58] <james296> what makes Ubuntu 6.06LTS better than Windows XP besides security
[11:58] <xe||> or is it still rather difficult?
[11:58] <shut-> can anyone help me install my printer
[11:58] <CromagDK> si there a netinstall image somewhere wich will autodetect hw ?
[11:58] <adiddy> better gui
[11:58] <kaolti> nozorro: well something came up and i cant check it right now but it has to work.
[11:58] <CromagDK> ubuntu ofc
[11:59] <adiddy> easier to use
[11:59] <CorpseFeeder> welcome back brian98
[11:59] <adiddy> very mac os 9.1 like to me
[11:59] <xbehave2> for me it uses less resources allowing programs to run better
[11:59] <xe||> james296: open source, free both as in beer and as in speach :-)
[11:59] <blurd> w.e someone help me im trying to install java this was an error on terminal said: Okay when i try to update my ubuntu it says this: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. ~ What do i do ???
[11:59] <xbehave2> a legal copy is free
[11:59] <james296> but its not easier to play Windows games....lol
[11:59] <brian98> hola corpsefeeder
[11:59] <adiddy> i have issue with pogo.com in 6
[11:59] <brian__> lysit - try setting a static IP address - edit /etc/network/interfaces with gedit or nano
[11:59] <brian98> bhrobinson: Do you know anything about xandr?
[11:59] <xbehave2> no but i can duel boot to a striped down xp when i want to play games
[11:59] <brian98> it it similar?
[11:59] <nozorro> kaolti: also set dns server addresses as usual on your win box. if it doesn't work, we could re-start the network on ubuntu with a simple command...
[11:59] <erUSUL> CorpseFeeder: i have had a look at the forums and everythin seems right (there are a lot of warnings but no errors). Do a sudo make install and try the module (sudo modprobe rt61 )
[11:59] <adiddy> why play windows game if you use ubuntu all the time?
[12:00] <mad_man> how do i unhide file extensions ?
[12:00] <Linuturk> what version should my kernel be at?
[12:00] <bhrobinson> brian98, xandr? not a clue
[12:00] <xbehave2> or i could till windows 98 killed the bootloader but thats a diferent story
[12:00] <Lysit> Will that require a restart brian?
[12:00] <ladydoor> mad_man: you might just be looking at files that don't have extensions
[12:00] <brian__> lysit - no, just restart networking services
[12:00] <adiddy> use ubuntu as your sole os don't pation with windows or any thing like that
[12:00] <Lysit> how do I do that?
[12:00] <Linuturk> 2.6.15-26-386 << is that the most recent kernel for Dapper ?
[12:00] <kaolti> nozorro: what do you mean as usual?
[12:01] <brian__> you can find the syntax for the interfaces file on the web
[12:01] <brian98> bhrobinson: nah, it's something completely different
[12:01] <CromagDK> anyone knows if theres a ubuntu netinstall wich autodetects Hardware ?