[12:12] sebas: reporting.current and reporting.last_full exist though and look sane here - I can add this as last fallback [12:13] Sure. [12:13] ok thanks jdong_ [12:13] Fixes look good, thanks. [12:20] is anyone using kde 3.5.2/3.5.3? [12:26] check my blog and tell me if you think it need something more? please people :D www.lnxkde.blogspot.com [12:26] 3.5.4 here === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-184-32.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] :( [12:29] i need 2 people or 1 person with bot konq 3.5.2 and/or 3.5.3 [12:29] s/bot/both [12:29] gnomefreak: For ? [12:29] Hawkwind: a bug im working on [12:29] gnomefreak: I have 3.5.3 [12:30] oik give me a sec [12:30] https://secure.fundsxpress.com/piles/fxweb.pile/login?iid=4LSBLI [12:30] Hawkwind: does that show for you? [12:31] that page will either open for you or error and tell you to install a newer version of netscape ect [12:32] lnxkde: it would be better if it didn't use homophobic terminology [12:32] true [12:34] Riddell: sorry [12:34] Riddell: just updated [12:35] lnxkde: much better :) [12:35] what you think I should add or remove? [12:35] or fix? [12:36] the plf you have breezy repos, if your gonna use those you might atlease use the dapper ones ;) [12:37] is there plans to send 3.5.3 to dapper? as default? [12:37] gnomefreak, not afaik [12:37] if hobbsee is right and im right it might be a very good idea [12:38] it would be too much to backport, better just to fix problems [12:38] imbrandon: true I have been using them since dapper realease wjn plf havent updated [12:39] seveas repos > plf anyhow ;) [12:39] she says theres a bug with banking sites and konq. [12:39] lnxkde: !easysource ;) [12:39] what? [12:39] !easysource [12:39] source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic [12:40] lnxkde: go there those are a list of extra repos :) [12:40] gnomefreak, yea i seen it, its a https bug, but i still dont see the reason for backporting a whole DE for that [12:40] plf being one of them === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] imbrandon: i dont know what is wrong with it im trying to find someone to test it on 3.5.2 and 3.5.3 to see if anything changed or atleast confirm it would be good [12:42] gnomefreak, yea but thats still something that can goto -updates or -security as a patch , no real need for the whole DE [12:42] brb [12:42] imbrandon: agreed [12:42] gnomefreak, just beet a kubuntu 6.06.1 livecd [12:42] and try it ;) [12:43] food time bbiab [12:43] s/beet/boot [12:46] ah didnt think of that :) [12:46] gnomefreak: Sorry for the delay. That URL works in konqueror here [12:47] Hawkwind: 3.5.3 [12:47] gnomefreak: That is correct [12:47] or 3.5.2? [12:47] ok ty [12:47] Yep [12:47] im gonna see if i cant try booting livecd [12:47] brb [12:50] imbrandon: thankx updated the blog with the latest plf :) [12:50] ;) === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@40.145-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] and now for something at least a little bit different: [01:10] heh [01:10] http://bootsplash.org/kdm_idea.png === imbrandon looks [01:11] WOW [01:11] the icons are just quickly done, to prove the idea [01:11] thats the best thing i've seen so far, thats a good mix of blue purple [01:12] i would raise the logo just a TAD more though, to make it stand out more, still over lap but higher [01:12] but thats fskin awesom ( compared to now LOL ) [01:12] :-) [01:12] we will see if there is enough time to get that kind of thing to work [01:13] friday the 13th , heh i just noticed [01:15] kwwii: lovely [01:15] now i rember why i hated gentoo, its fskin taking 2 days to emerge everything [01:16] kwwii: That is exceptional looking [01:16] good to hear people like it ;-) [01:16] imbrandon: this begs the obvious question of.. huh? [01:17] Riddell, heh my cluster still runs gentoo ( unless you can convince the ubuntu kernel team to make a xbox kernel package heheh ) [01:17] vmlinuz.xbe ;) [01:18] i picked up 2 more ( to bring the total to 10 ) xboxes , but the thing is you cant image the drives becosue of the hdd locking in the bios [01:19] so i have to install/emerge everything to add an xbox to the cluster [01:19] any good reason not to update my ppc edgy box? [01:19] kwwii: any good reason to update it? [01:19] Riddell: sound would be nice eventually [01:19] heh [01:20] that's why I have a radio [01:20] DAB has some groovy stations on it [01:20] The sound driver is not fixed in the kernel edgy ships, or is it backported? [01:20] Riddell: man, you need to come to southern germany and listen to the radio === sebas grins. [01:20] kwwii, sucks ? [01:20] the radio here is total crap [01:20] kwwii: Time to get into kernel compiling :> [01:21] well, it is great if you like bon jovi and lionel richie, interspersed with "it's raining men" [01:21] plus frostwire rocks ;) [01:21] Celine Dion, not to forget [01:21] hahaha [01:21] sebas: dude, if I knew a person who knew what they were doing I would try it :-) [01:22] imbrandon: but gentoo's optimized for my computer... I just emerged firefox with "-O99 -fomit-frame-pointer -fweb -ffast-math -msse99" and it flies :) [01:22] omg jdong die irl kthxbye [01:22] :) [01:22] but seriously, firefox does benefit here from some cflags loving === imbrandon is listening to "Easy" by Lionel Ritchie [Amarok] [01:23] kwwii, just for you ^^ === jdong_ recompiles his ubuntu firefox packages with SSE2 :) [01:23] alright, who made the gtk-qt engine settings disappear from KSS? [01:23] jdong while your at it compile it with qt widgets ( --with-default-toolkit=qt ) === jdong_ gets out pitchforks and torches [01:24] imbrandon: does that actually _work [01:24] ? [01:24] dunno, its supose to, never tried [01:24] uhh === jdong_ happily stays gtk-qt [01:25] would be nice to have a firefox-kde packages though ;) [01:25] i dont think any other distro does it [01:25] probably good reason too [01:25] lol === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:sebas] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel! | TODO: Gamin fixes at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Merges at: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings - Next Meeting: 7 September, 2100 UTC [01:26] (removed hwdb + p-m links) [01:26] The topic now actually fits on 5000px wide screens! [01:26] ahh i was just trying to see what changed ;) [01:26] imbrandon: that is probably the best song that guy wrote [01:26] kwwii, hahah yea its the only one i had in my collection ;) [01:26] Yes, even faith no more knows. [01:26] we was a commodore, or? [01:27] not sure [01:27] !bed [01:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about bed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:27] s/we/he [01:27] gnight sebas === sebas kicks stoopid ubotu [01:27] gnight [01:27] night sebas [01:27] :* [01:28] @lart sebas kicking ubotu [01:28] now that was a joke , but /this/ is good , man nickleback rocks === imbrandon is listening to "Rockstar" by Nickelback on All The Right Reasons [Amarok] [01:28] ;) === jdong_ kicks ubotu, too :) [01:28] ok enough of that script [01:29] .... i'm gonna trade this life for fortune and fame , i'll even cut my hair and change my name ..... [01:31] kwwii, but to answer you , my ppc runs edgy fine , but then again it installes from the livecd fine too === jdong_ anxiously but ner [01:31] grr [01:31] sooo take that with some salt ;) [01:31] stupid enter key === jdong_ anxiously but nervously awaits kernel update :) [01:33] hrm i wonder if i should try to compile a ubuntu xbox kernel [01:34] imbrandon: probably not :) [01:34] imbrandon: why not have your gentoo kernel boot ubuntu? [01:34] debootstrap is available in portage, right? [01:35] ohh wow, someone already has ........ http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/xbox-cromwell [01:35] jdong yea debootstap is in portage, thats how i use the xbox to compile sid/edgy packages [01:36] imbrandon: yeah, my laptop does as well, but I just got the wlan running, so I do not want to mess it up :p [01:36] heheh airport extreem or airport classic? my classic works outa the box [01:36] just have to put the wep key in [01:36] extreme [01:37] ahhh yea restriced firmware stuff [01:37] wow, I needed to put the firmware bits in the right dir [01:37] yup [01:37] yea for the extreeme, the classic "just works"(tm) [01:38] just have to load the airport and orinoco modules [01:38] ( but the installer does that ) [01:38] well... extreme works too.. all you have to do is modprobe bcm43xx and then cut the firmware and.... j/k :) [01:38] hehe yea the extreeme works but is a pita [01:38] as kwwii just noted ;) [01:39] shiny... new monodevelop [01:39] that doesn't compile on edgy :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] newer than 0.11 ? [01:45] Riddell: what are the individual percentage icons in power manager for? it uses a nifty tooltip to show the percent [01:45] imbrandon: 0.12 :) [01:45] imbrandon: code completion working for C# generics [01:45] I won't ask why two of them open every time I start kde [01:46] imbrandon: compiles if you yank out nunit though :) === gnomefreak falling in love with kuake [01:47] btw imbrandon ty i was able to open in with 6.06 live kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii reboots to see the new usplash [01:55] brb [01:58] WHERE IS MY NEW KERNEL???? [01:58] j/k ;) [01:58] Linux Britannia 2.6.17.11 #1 SMP Thu Aug 24 21:42:52 CDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux [01:58] :P [01:58] Nothing newer except beta stuff [01:58] Hawkwind: yeah yeah, I have that crap in my bzr branches, too [01:58] don't feel like breaking it out :) [01:58] Hah [01:58] I dist-upgraded to edgy for a reason dammit [01:59] This is on Dapper [01:59] Hawkwind: I had my custom 2.6.17.11's when I ran dapper, too [01:59] then I got tired of maintaining a half-dapper half-edgy system :) === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54956B47.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [02:00] well, that was quick [02:01] heh [02:01] after updating I get 8-10 lines more error messages [02:01] nifty [02:01] no usplash at all yet [02:01] :) === uni`nix [n=nixterna@dyn254-03.cod.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii gets the feeling that we will be using the old usplash again for edgy [02:02] hrm lug radio live ( with jono ) in 30 minutes [02:02] jono? is that bono's brother? [02:02] lug radio live? at 1am [02:02] haha ya [02:03] jono is doing the radio show that they do in new york or whatever..i think that is tonight [02:04] uni`nix, yea its in 30 minutes ( live broadcast ) [02:04] man..i miss all the good stuff [02:04] kwwii, jono the ubuntu community manager or what ever his title is [02:04] heh [02:04] i will grab a recording later [02:04] that radio show is usually pretty blah...every now and then they have some good stuff though [02:04] imbrandon: thanks [02:05] yea i dont like the show much either but i catch it when they have someone from ubuntu on [02:05] like the last one i listened to they had sabdfl [02:05] imbrandon: Riddell: uploading qcomicbook [02:06] ryanakca, ok [02:06] morning all [02:06] kwwii, http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=758 [02:06] kwwii: I'm creating the .dsc for that icon set... I'll upload it shortly, I'll run it threw pbuilder-edgy first [02:08] ryanakca: I thought we couldn#t use it? [02:08] can you run multiple instance of plbuilder at once? [02:08] ryanakca: probably [02:08] kwwii: I worked it out with the guy and all [02:09] ryanakca, yea [02:09] ryanakca: ;-) [02:09] kwwii: he had downloaded from everaldo... so, he had to ask (he didn't download from kde-look) [02:10] ahhhhh [02:10] kwwii: oh, and the guy would prefer that we put in a way to switch to his wierd kmenu icon during install instead of the sane normal klogo... follow his wishes or not? [02:11] to be honest, unless we get a full theme which is better, or a partial one which highights our dist.-look I am not sure if it is a good idea to change icons since we will do it again for kde4 [02:11] his klogo icon is a bird-like monster called ferny. He also packaged a sane blue klogo icon... [02:11] ryanakca: definitely do not follow his kmenu idea :p [02:11] lol [02:11] thank-you. Didn't think so :) [02:12] the one interesting thing about the bird is that when kde starts the icon bounces (the animation I hate) and it almost looks like it is flapping it's wings [02:13] but even if I like a freaky mutant owl, I do not want it on the main menu :-) [02:13] lol [02:13] nor do I... if it was a bird watching encyclopedia-like app, maybe. [02:13] although it has some neat icons, the ones in the default panel setup look pretty bad at that size [02:15] kwwii: the percentage icons are used in both the tooltip and the systray icon [02:17] I dont have the default panel setup, and holy... holy! running 2 pbuilders and a dist-upgrade at once on this machine was a bad idea... [02:18] Sysinfo for 'rkavanagh': Linux 2.6.17-6-686 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) at 996 MHz (1995 bogomips), HD: 37/186GB, RAM: 353/375MB, 191 proc's, 6.21d up [02:18] s/holy!/ [02:18] Riddell: cool, thanks...sorry for the stupid question, I do not even have a battery === ryanakca hates it when you don't see something when you type it and you type it twice [02:18] ryanakca: I hate it worse when I type something in the wrong window [02:19] lol [02:21] one of the biggest features I can think of that I miss from SUSE is to install without wiping out a home dir [02:21] kwwii: you can do that [02:21] Riddell: how? [02:21] just don't format whatever partition the home directory is on [02:21] I guess it is somewhere in the partitioner [02:21] well, I only have one partition for all of root [02:22] next time I wipe everything I should simply make a /home partition, I know [02:22] but then how do I update all my desktop settings? [02:23] update in what way? [02:23] ahhh, forget that [02:23] it is late [02:23] I should go to bed [02:23] soon [02:23] :-) [02:23] I cannot stop working on KDM [02:24] I saw that the knot2 edgy theme is already on kde-look.org [02:25] I wonder who did that [02:25] well, I will wait with any update for a while [02:26] get the most bang for the buck, so to speak [02:26] Knot 3 probably next week [02:30] around which day? [02:31] I could include the usplash, kdm, ksplash, wallpaper, and update the amarok theme [02:31] imbrandon: why is the right corner of every about page still blue? [02:31] kwwii: not sure which day, hopefully towards the end of the week [02:32] Riddell: yeah, the more towards the end, the better [02:33] probably have to tweak the colors and the window deco as well [02:33] kwwii, becosue the images arent done ( the only one i finished was konqueror ) and it got uploaded to kdebase ( not kdelibs ) [02:33] or vice versa [02:34] the konqi top-right-konqueror.png i sent to Riddell but somehow dident make it in the patch [02:34] actualy i think it did , just the worgong place [02:34] wrong* [02:35] the help documentation has the purple blue fun the other way round :) [02:35] most of the images should have went to /kdeui/about but the top right png's are in the //about [02:35] wow nice LOL [02:36] hahaha [02:36] the help center is using the konqui image [02:36] that is supose to be in /about [02:37] I just did what you told me :) [02:37] hehe yea , i probably told you wrong in the mail, there was one image from that email that needed to be in another package [02:37] the images are spread between kdebase and kdelibs [02:37] so it kinda sucks [02:37] well, we need to work that out [02:38] and I am not sure if the total purple effect is the best anyway [02:38] yea i dont like it either [02:38] I mean, purple is nice, but let's not go too far [02:38] special with the more blue [02:38] right [02:38] it sounded good but in practice it sucks [02:38] plus ontop of that , those arent [02:38] it has been my opinion, since I made the bg's, that the blue-purple version will be default because everyone will like it more [02:39] easy to change if someone wants to change from the default theme [02:39] the orange-purple was meant to sell everyone on purple and give them something to complain about [02:39] although I like it myself [02:39] hehe [02:40] tbh i say we revert the purple stuff on all the /about pages and leave it default [02:40] I think that the orange-purple version ties in nicely with Ubuntu [02:40] but what do you think kwwii / Riddell ? [02:40] imbrandon: for now at least, we should [02:40] heh orange and purple done mix well [02:40] or we should work on it some more [02:40] to me [02:41] we could actually change the pics a bit [02:41] well i say revert it for knot3 and then work on it as we have time ...... hows that ? [02:41] its just a diff so should be easy to pull out [02:41] sounds best, as we will have a new blue-purple wallpaper, the blue will probably fit to some extent [02:41] on next recompile [02:42] kwwii, yea we'll just add some purple hilights on some things [02:42] and leave the blue for the most part [02:42] imbrandon: I could see the blue simply changing to the lighter blue in the middle of the new wallpaper [02:42] that way too if someone ( like me ) changes from the default theme they arent totaly stuck with an unchangeable image either [02:42] perhaps a few purple things in the text usage, etc. [02:42] yea exactly, just in the css, not the iamges [02:43] images* [02:43] exactly [02:43] ok i'll try to wrap that up in the next little while [02:43] yeah, time for bed here [02:43] see you all tomorrow [02:43] hehe sleep well kwwii [02:44] i should be arround earlier tomarrow [02:44] 2:43 am is late enough [02:44] ;) [02:44] my son is still on summer vacation from school [02:44] (EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist 0) [02:44] gah [02:44] and he somehow wants to get up early every day [02:44] hehehe [02:45] but durring school days sleep in ;) [02:45] hehe, yeah...funny how that works [02:53] ooh... we swtiched to upstart, eh? [02:53] nice :) [02:53] so long as you never shut down your computer [02:54] oh... ??? [02:54] aptitude dist-upgrade automaticly installed it and uninstalled sysvinit === ryanakca is ready to CTRL-C... [02:55] Riddell: anything I should know about? cancel the upgrade? === beligum [n=beligum@d54C49C69.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:55] ryanakca: nah, should be fine [02:55] hi beligum [02:55] hi Riddell [02:56] almost done packaging :) [02:56] beligum: you released those libraries and that screen capturing app? [02:56] jip [02:56] good :) [02:56] you packaging them? or do I still have a go at them? [02:57] upload them to REVU tommorow night... in time for REVU day... [02:57] or at least try [02:57] tomorrow REVU-day ? [02:58] Friday [02:58] Before the feature freeze [02:58] UniverseFreeze I mean [02:59] Can I get that REVU-URL again please? did a poweroff in the wrong shell :-$ [02:59] meaning we can't upload stuff to the Universe any more... [02:59] revu.tauware.de I think... [02:59] yes [02:59] beligum: have you asked for an account yet? [03:00] no, not yet [03:00] beligum: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/REVU [03:00] ah, k, that's the one I was looking for [03:01] so your packaging it? [03:02] jip, on it right now [03:03] kk [03:03] people told me I should do it myself [03:03] don't ask me why [03:03] lol [03:04] packaging is fun [03:04] and hey, if theres something wrong with it, you know the code and how to fix it :) [03:04] that's true [03:05] whow, apparently, I'm already subscribed to Launchpad [03:05] it's like the M$ Passport feeling all over again [03:06] lol [03:06] wiki and launchpad and bazaar share the same database (I think) [03:06] you'd think [03:13] damn, I forgot how to NOT include the header files [03:13] in a make build script [03:14] In Makefile.am, I've pkginclude_HEADERS [03:14] but those header files get installed, how do I prevent this? [03:14] substitute with include_HEADERS ? [03:24] noinclude_HEADERS or something like that [03:26] Ok, got registered with pgp at launchpad [03:27] now, you just gotta sign that CoC, become an Ubuntero, and you are on your way to....i don't know actually, so you can just fill this in with whatever ;) [03:28] (membership) [03:28] ya that too ;) [03:36] membership=good [03:36] oops, I am sleeping === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54956B47.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:41] imbrandon: Riddell: uploaded qcomicbook [03:42] and I'm going to bed, so any comments you have, can you post them on REVU? [03:42] ryanakca: to where? [03:42] Riddell: just a second... I'll get REVU link [03:42] ok, just sold my soul ;-) [03:42] ryanakca: that's fine, I can find it [03:42] 2nd package nearly done [03:42] although I'm ofdf to bed too [03:43] Riddell: well, I won't be back till around this time tommorow.... schools back in session :) [03:43] Riddell: G'night :D === uni`nix wants to sleep now [03:45] imbrandon: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3044 [03:46] beligum: you can put the .debs and sources on any web server if you want us to look at them before you get your revu account set up of course === Riddell beds === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.161.239] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] Would someone be prepared to look at the .debs for ScreenKast and libinstrudeo? [03:54] http://instrudeo.bpower2.com/packages/ubuntu-dapper/ === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-253-232.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] I'll come back tomorrow, got to get some sleep, before you all read lines and lines of bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb [04:07] bye === beligum [n=beligum@d54C49C69.access.telenet.be] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:08] mornin' Hobbsee! :) [04:09] hi all [04:09] hey Jucato :) === Hobbsee notes that her email has exploded. [04:12] hiya Hobbsee ;) [04:12] exploded? [04:13] the total unread jumped from 1 to 80. [04:13] hehe [04:13] is the Ubuntu Uploader/Syncher working again? [04:13] when wasnt it? [04:13] and you're meaning soyuz, or what? [04:13] hehe [04:14] no, edgy-changes or commits rather [04:14] the Ubuntu Installer at times loads up a bunch of files and hits the inbox kind of hard [04:14] Ubuntu users is anohter one [04:14] uni`nix: that's because it's manually done. [04:16]