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| Quinn_Storm | hey guys, figured I'd ask again since new people might be here...does anyone know of any good way that I could build amd64 packages on i386? I would rather not have to build gcc from source... | 01:36 |
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| Quinn_Storm | in fact, as I expected, I can't even make the x86_64 gcc compile | 01:41 |
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| ajmitch | it *may* be possible to cross-compile, but it really wouldn't be nice to setup | 01:42 |
| Quinn_Storm | ok yeah...it just is getting obnoxious that I can't have fully up to date amd64 packages for my usres | 01:42 |
| ajmitch | just find someone who you trust to build amd64 packages when needed | 01:42 |
| Quinn_Storm | users^ | 01:42 |
| Quinn_Storm | I think maybe I'll see about a build service or something | 01:42 |
| === ajmitch should set something up on his box :) | ||
| === Quinn_Storm is just tired of amd64 users complaining since there's nothing for them | ||
| === Quinn_Storm also...wishes she hadn't wasted 6 hours trying to build gcc | ||
| grexk_ | Quinn_Storm: Try buildd | 01:44 |
| Quinn_Storm | grexk_: that won't help with the need to cross-compile | 01:44 |
| ajmitch | grexk_: still requires having the hardware | 01:44 |
| === Quinn_Storm only owns a lowly i386 box | ||
| === ajmitch had mini-dinstall chained up to pbuilder at one point | ||
| === grexk_ ok.... | ||
| === Quinn_Storm 's head hurts after all that staring at binutils/gcc stuff | ||
| grexk_ | hehehe | 01:45 |
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| zul_ | that would be cool to cross compile but a pain in the ass | 01:59 |
| Quinn_Storm | yeah | 01:59 |
| Quinn_Storm | I wish I had an amd64 box...or someone who really trusted me (pbuilder needs root) | 02:00 |
| Quinn_Storm | well they wouldn't have to -really- trust me if they had uml | 02:00 |
| plugwash | hmm, if you use tt mode you should be able to install uml entirely from your normal user account | 02:01 |
| plugwash | and then install a pbuilder inside it | 02:01 |
| Quinn_Storm | tt mode? dunno much about that | 02:01 |
| plugwash | uml has 3 modes | 02:02 |
| Quinn_Storm | ah ok | 02:02 |
| plugwash | skas mode is the best performing and most secure but needs special support in the host kernel | 02:04 |
| plugwash | tt mode is the original mode and provides no secuirty (e.g. users inside your uml will be able to break out to your user account on the host | 02:04 |
| Quinn_Storm | tt is exactly what I'd need to make a pbuilder though | 02:04 |
| plugwash | tt jail mode has more security features than tt mode and doesn't need any special support on the host but is much slower than any of the other modes | 02:04 |
| Quinn_Storm | I wish I could just cross-compile, heh | 02:05 |
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| fbond | this is new: | 02:10 |
| fbond | E: midisport-firmware: maintainer-script-calls-init-script-directly postinst:40 | 02:10 |
| fbond | how should I be calling an initscript from my maintainer script? | 02:10 |
| crimsun | test for and use invoke-rc.d first only falling back to direct invocation if invoke-rc.d doesn't exist | 02:11 |
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| ryanakca | crimsun: it's been over a month and a half since I sent the developper an e-mail to change the name from gnome-clipboard-daemon to clipboard-daemon . no response | 03:13 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: which developer? | 03:14 |
| ryanakca | it's only developper, M. Lai I think... I'll check. | 03:17 |
| crimsun | upstream upstream, then? | 03:17 |
| crimsun | I wouldn't change the name without his/her explicit written approval | 03:17 |
| ryanakca | yes | 03:19 |
| ryanakca | Mr. H. Lai | 03:19 |
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| crimsun | don't worry about it for 6.10 | 03:21 |
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| ryanakca | hmm.. .well, he's definetly not missing... he's a developper for AutoPackage | 03:23 |
| Plug | When is universe-freeze? | 03:24 |
| crimsun | Sept 28t. | 03:24 |
| crimsun | +h | 03:24 |
| ryanakca | Sept 28th | 03:24 |
| Plug | Cool. That gives me a bit more time to battle my nm-pptp-vpn plugin. | 03:24 |
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| LaserJock | oh bugger | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 03:34 |
| fbond | crimsun, you seem to have a handle on udev, do you have time to help me out? | 03:34 |
| crimsun | what's the issue? | 03:34 |
| fbond | my midisport-firmware package is now put together well, I think, but the firmware is no longer loaded by udev, although it worked fine under dapper | 03:35 |
| fbond | The device isn't recognized appropriately, it would seem. | 03:35 |
| fbond | I have a shallow understanding of the actual .rules file... | 03:36 |
| fbond | * I haven't yet uploaded the most recent version of the package to revu, but the rules file is the same | 03:36 |
| crimsun | pointer please? | 03:36 |
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| fbond | http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/midisport-firmware-0608202105/midisport-firmware-1.2/42-midisport-firmware.rules.in | 03:39 |
| fbond | @firmwaredir@ is replaced during build with the correct path | 03:39 |
| ubuntu-es | fbond: Error: "firmwaredir@" is not a valid command. | 03:39 |
| fbond | hah | 03:39 |
| crimsun | oh | 03:41 |
| crimsun | usbfs isn't mounted by default anymore. | 03:41 |
| crimsun | I have a hackaround for my homebrewed udev rule for the M-Audio DFU | 03:42 |
| fbond | ok, I don't know much about that | 03:42 |
| fbond | so, is there anything that I personally can do about that, or is this, "sorry, can't be helped?" | 03:42 |
| fbond | Does my udev rule need to mount usbfs? | 03:43 |
| crimsun | I haven't checked fxload. Does it require usbfs? | 03:43 |
| fbond | I believe it does... | 03:43 |
| fbond | hang on 2 secs | 03:43 |
| crimsun | the code will have a usbfs_t | 03:43 |
| crimsun | if so, the code needs to be updated | 03:43 |
| crimsun | unfortunately I haven't done that yet | 03:44 |
| fbond | ues ot dpes | 03:44 |
| fbond | sorry | 03:44 |
| fbond | yes it does require usbfs | 03:44 |
| fbond | the fxload code needs to be updated? | 03:45 |
| crimsun | yes | 03:45 |
| fbond | to mount usbfs? | 03:45 |
| crimsun | no, to note rely on usbfs | 03:45 |
| crimsun | to not | 03:45 |
| crimsun | (this lag is horrible) | 03:45 |
| fbond | interesting | 03:45 |
| fbond | that's ok | 03:45 |
| fbond | or, it's ok for me, anyway :) | 03:45 |
| fbond | so, can I help you with that, or is it better just to leave it to "those who know" | 03:46 |
| fbond | (I'm actually a little curious as to how one would remove a dependency like that, apart from a significant re-write...) | 03:47 |
| crimsun | clemens needs to update it, else I'll just patch it and push it to him | 03:47 |
| fbond | ok, sounds good | 03:47 |
| fbond | in the meantime, I'll consider my package ready to go, so, keep that in mind if you have a few minutes to take a look :) | 03:47 |
| fbond | thanks for your help, too... | 03:47 |
| fbond | BTW fxload manpage also contains references to usbfs; may want to make sure the manpage gets patched, too... | 03:48 |
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| Hobbsee | hey all | 04:09 |
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| welshbyte | hey Hobbsee | 04:09 |
| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee. | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 04:10 |
| TheMuso | Hey ajmitch. | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | hey welshbyte, TheMuso, ajmitch | 04:12 |
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| printk | Hello everyone. I see there are several books that are free that are very interesting to linux. (Linux Device Drivers Rev 3 for example). Anyway, I was thinking about packaing these books into pdf (if not already) and creating debs to put them in /usr/share/doc. Now I know I for one would appreciate this. Do you guys feel this could be something that would be useful or should I not really bother? | 04:48 |
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| bluefoxicy | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ufoai/ #16 most active on sf.net | 05:45 |
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| Burgundavia | bluefoxicy: good, caused they were almost dead for a long time | 05:48 |
| bluefoxicy | Burgundavia: nods, I'm gonna go shower, probably make sure that's on MOTU/Teams/Games in the wiki when I get back | 05:49 |
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| imbrandon | !ping | 06:00 |
| ubotu | ping: connection timeout | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:06 |
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| xerxas | Hi everyone | 08:50 |
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| Fujitsu | Are any MOTUs available to upload a patch for ettercap for me? It doesn't build at the moment. | 08:53 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:19 |
| Kagou | good morning dholbach | 09:22 |
| Mithrandir | hi Daniel | 09:22 |
| dholbach | hey Kagou, hey Tollef! | 09:23 |
| imbrandon | moins dholbach Mithrandir and Kagou | 09:33 |
| dholbach | hi imbrandon | 09:33 |
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| Kagou | hey imbrandon | 09:41 |
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| imbrandon | cypher1, please turn off away/back messages | 09:53 |
| cypher1 | imbrandon: sure.. sorry.. | 09:54 |
| imbrandon | no worries ;) | 09:54 |
| cypher1 | :) | 09:54 |
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| cypher1 | tomorow is REVU DAY right | 09:54 |
| cypher1 | nothing mentioned in topic :( | 09:55 |
| imbrandon | yes tomarrow is revu day | 09:55 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:imbrandon] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | REVU Day Sept 8th | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fg | ||
| imbrandon | there ya go ;) | 09:56 |
| cypher1 | :D thanks | 09:56 |
| Kagou | :) | 09:56 |
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| dholbach | imbrandon: the last bit is truncated | 10:08 |
| imbrandon | ahh yea topic limit | 10:08 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 10:08 |
| dholbach | drop the UNMETDEPS and mysqlclient stuff | 10:09 |
| imbrandon | yea i was just thinking that, its been there for months | 10:09 |
| dholbach | the other link too | 10:09 |
| dholbach | MOTU bugs | 10:09 |
| imbrandon | kk | 10:09 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:imbrandon] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | REVU Day Sept 8th | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | ||
| dholbach | super | 10:11 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 10:11 |
| cypher1 | cool | 10:11 |
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| imbrandon | who is william grant ? | 10:22 |
| seaLne | https://launchpad.net/people/fujitsu ? | 10:24 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok | 10:25 |
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| phanatic | morning | 11:49 |
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| imbrandon | /quit | 12:37 |
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| frandavid100 | hi guys | 01:11 |
| frandavid100 | are we still in time to include new packages in edgy's universe? | 01:12 |
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| phanatic | frandavid100: hi | 01:12 |
| phanatic | yes :) | 01:12 |
| frandavid100 | hi phanatic | 01:12 |
| frandavid100 | I'm very interested in getting CCL, an internet cafe control software into the repos | 01:13 |
| frandavid100 | But I don't still have the skills to make a compliant package, so a guy from ubuntuforums did it for me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1472615#post1472615 | 01:14 |
| frandavid100 | it still needs some tweaks I think... when's the deadline? | 01:14 |
| phanatic | 28th september i think | 01:16 |
| frandavid100 | still lots of time then... somehow I thought it was this week | 01:17 |
| frandavid100 | what if we fixed the thing and uploaded it to REVU? do you think i would hit edgy, or does it take lots of time to revise? | 01:18 |
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| phanatic | frandavid100: it depends. but my advice is to go ahead :) | 01:24 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga | 01:24 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello phanatic | 01:24 |
| frandavid100 | it does work ^^ I'll have to check the package descriptions and the copyright info, but it's basically done!! | 01:25 |
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| frandavid100 | see you later guys | 01:46 |
| frandavid100 | thanks for all phanatic | 01:46 |
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| Fujitsu | Erm, what's up with jonpollack's karma? | 01:58 |
| Fujitsu | He's apparently the 5th-top Ubuntu contributor, with > 500000 karma, and only two karma-related actions. | 01:59 |
| phanatic | Fujitsu: lol, it's more than interesting :) | 02:02 |
| Fujitsu | It's the oddest thing I've ever seen on Launchpad. And I've seen a lot of odd things. | 02:02 |
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| beligum | hi all, I'm about to upload a new package to REVU and I'm wondering if I've got everything | 02:39 |
| beligum | did a dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot && dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot | 02:40 |
| beligum | that's it? | 02:40 |
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| phanatic | beligum: the last command should be enough | 02:43 |
| beligum | ah, ok | 02:44 |
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| beligum | so now, all I need is dput *_source.changes ? | 02:45 |
| phanatic | beligum: yea | 02:45 |
| beligum | great | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: dput revu *source.changes | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | you dont need the revu if you've changed dput.cf though | 02:46 |
| beligum | ah, allright | 02:46 |
| beligum | should I wait for someone to review the packages, or commit now? | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | (otherwise you'll be trying to upload straight to the ubuntu archives, and it will decline you) | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: does commit mean run the dput command? | 02:46 |
| beligum | yes, indeed, sorry | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: people will look after you dput - that's what revu is there for | 02:47 |
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| beligum | ok, it's just that Ridell offered to review them first | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: he'll want you to upload to revu, and review them there, i'm guessing | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | this is a new package? | 02:49 |
| beligum | yes | 02:49 |
| beligum | ScreenKast, a screen-capturing program | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, dput it | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | sounds nice :) | 02:50 |
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| beligum | hmmm, what's the difference between debuild and dpkg-buildpackage | 03:15 |
| beligum | ? | 03:15 |
| StevenK | beligum: debuild is a wrapper around the latter. | 03:17 |
| beligum | ic | 03:17 |
| StevenK | beligum: debuild also can run things like lintian or linda after dpkg-buildpackage finishes | 03:17 |
| beligum | Hmmmm; E: Couldn't find package debuild | 03:18 |
| zul | you might have to install devscripts | 03:18 |
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| beligum | cool, so debuild does everything necessary to release to package? | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | it doestn call debsign | 03:25 |
| beligum | ah, k | 03:25 |
| StevenK | I thought it could? | 03:27 |
| StevenK | Sure it can | 03:27 |
| === StevenK waves to manual page at Hobbsee | ||
| StevenK | s/to/the/ | 03:27 |
| zul | er...debuild -S | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: it probably could. doesnt by default though | 03:28 |
| === Hobbsee waves her axe at StevenK | ||
| phanatic | lol | 03:28 |
| beligum | crap, I get a newer-standards-version 3.7.2, should I change to that? | 03:28 |
| === TheMuso waves to Hobbsee and StevenK. | ||
| === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | hey TheMuso | 03:30 |
| === Hobbsee tickles Mithrandir back, and stomps on his levitated feet | ||
| Hobbsee | beligum: no that's fine. | 03:30 |
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| Hobbsee | beligum: StevenK needs to get his version updated | 03:30 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: how's .au today? | 03:30 |
| StevenK | GRR! | 03:30 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: That's Lintian! | 03:30 |
| StevenK | *NOT* Linda | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i thought linda was giving that anyway. | 03:31 |
| StevenK | And I thought I fixed it. | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: i'm being yelled at by StevenK. au still exists. | 03:31 |
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| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee. Manage to prevent yourself from being blown over today? :) | 03:33 |
| beligum | Just to be difficult: how do I build a package on one machine, but sign it on another? | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: just | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: debsign -r - check man debsign | 03:33 |
| beligum | Hobbsee, thx | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: assuming you've got ssh from one machine to the other | 03:34 |
| beligum | yeah, sure | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: otherwise copy the source from one machine to the other, then sign it on the other machine | 03:34 |
| beligum | Hobbsee, just out of curiousity, does the binary or the source get signed? | 03:36 |
| beligum | or both? | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: the source. | 03:36 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if you can sign a binary | ||
| Hobbsee | well, you specify what you want signed | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | usually the source.changes | 03:36 |
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| geser | !info dpkg-sig edgy | 03:40 |
| ubotu | dpkg-sig: create and verify signatures on .deb-files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 232 kB | 03:40 |
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| beligum | How bad are the error messages lintian returns? | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | depends what they are | 03:49 |
| synic | where do I upload my gpg key in launchpad? | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | synic: launchpad/people/yournick and hit the gpg thing | 03:52 |
| beligum | I've a dilemma here: don't think the packages (libinstrudeo & ScreenKast) will be finished and I'll have to leave in an hour and won't be back till Sunday, should I sent them to REPO anyway? | 03:56 |
| beligum | damn, REVU that is ;) | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | they'll just sit there, no problem | 03:57 |
| beligum | ok | 03:57 |
| synic | ok... so now I'm supposed to ask to be added to the universe contributors team | 04:03 |
| beligum | Can someone tell me what happens after uploading to REVU, just quickly? | 04:03 |
| beligum | (btw, done) | 04:03 |
| synic | who do I ask for that? | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | synic: see the /topic ? | 04:06 |
| synic | ah. | 04:07 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: you give people in here the link, ask them to look at it, MOTU's can look and review it. if you get two passes, they upload it | 04:07 |
| beligum | Hobbsee, great, thanks for that | 04:07 |
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| beligum | After loggin in with email at revu and pressing recover, I get this python error: Mod_python error: "PythonHandler mod_python.publisher" | 04:13 |
| beligum | got a traceback too | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | siretart: *poke* | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | eh, probably idling | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | beligum: siretart may well want that error pastebinned, and a link given to him | 04:15 |
| beligum | ok, sec | 04:15 |
| beligum | hmm, now it changed | 04:17 |
| beligum | to "To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell:" ... | 04:18 |
| beligum | but plaintext, no html | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | and? | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | you want to use the plaintext | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | it's all encrypted | 04:19 |
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| beligum | No, I mean, after logging in at revu, and pressing recover, I get some plaintext message (pastebin not cooperating here) | 04:22 |
| beligum | It says: "To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell:", but I can't see the message or any html at all | 04:25 |
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| beligum | http://bpower2.com/revuerror.txt | 04:27 |
| beligum | that's the python error | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh... | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | that | 04:28 |
| siretart | beligum: try reloading | 04:31 |
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| beligum | done now, I get this: bpower2.com/revuerror2.txt | 04:34 |
| beligum | How long should I wait before the uploads show up on revu ? | 04:37 |
| phanatic | beligum: 5-10 minutes max. | 04:38 |
| siretart | did you upload exaile_0.2.2_i386.changes ? | 04:39 |
| beligum | nope, libinstrudeo and screenkast | 04:39 |
| siretart | your key isn't in the keyring. are you already in the lp group? | 04:40 |
| beligum | yes, I think so | 04:42 |
| beligum | I'm in the ubuntu universe package contrib group | 04:43 |
| beligum | uploaded and confirmed my key last night, thought that was done | 04:44 |
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| siretart | beligum: processed manually now | 04:47 |
| siretart | try lostpw again, please | 04:47 |
| beligum | nope, error2 again | 04:49 |
| synic | siretart: that was me. Something wrong with it? | 04:52 |
| siretart | synic: yes. the part about exaile_0.2.2_i386.changes | 04:52 |
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| synic | hrmm? | 04:53 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:53 |
| synic | siretart: what do I need to do to fix it? | 04:55 |
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| siretart | synic: upload a exaile_0.2.2_source.changes file instead | 04:58 |
| synic | ah, ok | 04:58 |
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| siretart | ok. lostpw.py should do again now | 04:59 |
| siretart | was indeed a silly permissions problem. which really needs to be fixed at some point | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Heya siretart | 05:02 |
| beligum | Hi all, thanks for all the help | 05:03 |
| siretart | huhu bddebian. how are you? | 05:03 |
| beligum | screenKast and libinstrudeo successfully uploaded | 05:03 |
| bddebian | siretart: OK, thanks. You? | 05:03 |
| siretart | bddebian: badly stressed with move, thesis, gf, the world.. | 05:04 |
| beligum | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3048 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3047 | 05:04 |
| beligum | Would be great if you could take a look | 05:04 |
| bddebian | siretart: Heh, I hear that man | 05:04 |
| beligum | Anyway, I'm off to France, cya on Sunday or Monday | 05:06 |
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| Lutin | Hi | 05:09 |
| Lutin | bddebian, is there a policy related to the x-session-managers packaging ? | 05:10 |
| bddebian | Lutin: Hello. Probably but I couldn't tell you what it is unfortunately. Sorry. | 05:11 |
| Lutin | bddebian, ok. | 05:11 |
| Lutin | thanks | 05:11 |
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| geser | what could be a reason why a package builds fine in a pbuilder but not on the buildds? | 05:23 |
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| LaserJock | geser: maybe your pbuilder is not updated | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | geser: is it on the same arch? | 05:24 |
| bddebian | geser: What's the error on the build log on the buildd? | 05:24 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 05:24 |
| geser | it builds in my pbuilder | 05:24 |
| bddebian | geser: I mean on LaunchPad? | 05:25 |
| geser | http://librarian.launchpad.net/4165426/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.libgtk-java_2.9.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 05:25 |
| geser | ia64 failed with the same error | 05:25 |
| geser | the last try on amd64 dito (the current try failed because of a chroot problem) | 05:26 |
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| bddebian | geser: What arch are you building on x86? | 05:27 |
| geser | it try on amd64 | 05:28 |
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| Sp4rKy | please how must i do when i package a login display manager ? | 05:50 |
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| geser | bddebian: I tried to build the package again but now w/o the arch-indep packages and it failed | 06:16 |
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| fowlduck- | hallo | 06:53 |
| fowlduck- | anyone here using edgy yet? | 06:53 |
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| LaserJock | I'm not actually | 06:56 |
| fowlduck- | boooooooooooo! er.. ;D | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | I was going to do a dist-upgrade maybe today | 06:56 |
| fowlduck- | oh, cool | 06:57 |
| fowlduck- | i mean, is it nearing completion? Only a month left | 06:57 |
| phanatic | fowlduck: yeah, it's considered usable now (feature freeze is tonight) | 06:58 |
| bddebian | Well I have two Edgy machines at work. Neither working atm | 06:58 |
| fowlduck- | oh, coooooool | 06:58 |
| fowlduck- | lol | 06:58 |
| phanatic | lol | 06:58 |
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| fowlduck- | lets see, one for it, one undecided, and one (bddebian) definitely against | 06:58 |
| bddebian | I am not against it, I just can't get it working on those machines :-( | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I *did* have a working edgy machine | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 06:59 |
| fowlduck- | rm -rf /bddebian/workputers/edgy | 06:59 |
| bddebian | Heh | 06:59 |
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| fowlduck- | where is that list of packages that are under revu? | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | darn, it "working directory C:\ is not valid" | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | fowlduck-: revu.tauware.de | 07:02 |
| Amaranth | does feature freeze apply to universe? | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | no | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | my _only_ machine is running edgy :) | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | we have Universe Freeze (28th) which is UVF+FF | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | so please don't break it :) | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I tried edgy on 3 machines | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | 2 went unbootable | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | but I got that worked out | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | and then my main dev machine decided it didn't want networking | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | and I couldn't figure out what the problem was | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | so I wiped it and put on 6.06.1 | 07:04 |
| Amaranth | weird | 07:04 |
| Amaranth | the only problems i'm having can be safely blamed on nvidia | 07:04 |
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| LaserJock | I tried installing a few different Knot2 .isos and none worked :-) | 07:05 |
| LaserJock | I think that computer must have issues | 07:05 |
| Amaranth | well, except for both my cores using the performance governor on boot and one of them being reset to performance on resume | 07:05 |
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| LaserJock | 1.3GHz + 256MB ram I think might be a part of the problem | 07:05 |
| fowlduck- | grrr | 07:05 |
| fowlduck- | school computers | 07:05 |
| fowlduck- | LaserJock, I tried a desktop install on similar hardware.....that failed miserably | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | "can't live with them, can't format them" ;-) | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | I tried a kubuntu alternative install | 07:06 |
| fowlduck- | and still pooped? argh | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | and perhaps an Ubuntu arlternative as well | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | well, they keep dying at the end | 07:07 |
| fowlduck- | well, i need to fix this junk up and get these packages out, ack | 07:10 |
| fowlduck- | bddebian, you commented on my package, I was wondering what specifically looks weird about the copyright: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2764 | 07:10 |
| fowlduck- | bddebian, that is, if you have time | 07:11 |
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| bddebian | fowlduck: I don't remember off-hand. Do you still have the full copyright in there? | 07:18 |
| fowlduck- | no, I don't think so, but you said "debian/copyright still looks a little strange" | 07:18 |
| fowlduck- | i can check tonight when I get home | 07:18 |
| fowlduck- | orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i can get out my laptop | 07:19 |
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| bddebian | fowlduck-: Yeah, you still have the whole: "How to apply GPL to your New programs" stuff | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah | 07:21 |
| fowlduck- | oh, I thought you were supposed to include only the first few paragraphs | 07:22 |
| fowlduck- | hmmm, my mistake i suppose | 07:22 |
| fowlduck- | wait, quote from the previous comment by ajmitch, "debian/copyright has the whole GPL in it. It is better to use the 3 paragraphs listed in the section "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs" & then give a reference to the rest of the license. Most other packages that use the GPL can be looked at as an example" | 07:23 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, OK, it just looked like more than I am used to | 07:23 |
| fowlduck- | ok, I'll still take a look tonight | 07:23 |
| bddebian | I know less about all the licensing crap than I do about packaging in general :-) | 07:23 |
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| Sp4rKy | where could i find all db_* binaries and what is them ? | 07:28 |
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| fowlduck- | if i'm on dapper, to build an edgy environment in pbuilder is as trivial as specifying it in the initial pbuilder command, correct? | 07:42 |
| geser | Sp4rKy: db_* sounds like Berkeley DB | 07:44 |
| fowlduck- | does he mean dh_*? | 07:46 |
| Sp4rKy | no db_ | 07:48 |
| geser | fowlduck-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics lists the steps to create an egdy pbuilder on dapper | 07:49 |
| geser | db4.3-util for db4.3 | 07:49 |
| Sp4rKy | in gdm postinst script, many software like db_get are used | 07:49 |
| geser | and db4.4-util for libdb4.4 | 07:49 |
| geser | the programms are called db4.x_* to be co-installable | 07:49 |
| fowlduck- | geser, many thanks :) | 07:49 |
| geser | where x is 3 or 4 | 07:49 |
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| Arbiter | moin | 07:58 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, what's a good way to test your download speed | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | I should have a very good connection | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | but all the Ubuntu mirrors seem to be giving me like 20-30 kB/s | 08:11 |
| fowlduck- | http://speedtest.tds.net/ | 08:11 |
| zul | find a site that does a speed test | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 08:21 |
| fowlduck- | are the ubuntu mirrors syncing or something maybe? | 08:22 |
| trappist | anybody know the status of compiz-kde? looks like still a pretty old package in edgy, maybe from dapper, depending on a really old compiz | 08:25 |
| trappist | (uninstallable) | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | hmm, well I don't get it, perhaps they are syncing or maybe getting hit hard | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | but I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade and it'd be nice to have it done by the weekend ;-) | 08:27 |
| trappist | LaserJock: yeah my last one took almost 24 hours, between all the downloading, installing, apt-get -f install, update again, etc. | 08:30 |
| trappist | LaserJock: what mirror are you using? | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | trappist: Portland, right now | 08:31 |
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| LaserJock | it's the fastest I could find, and I"m getting ~50kB/s | 08:32 |
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| trappist | ack | 08:38 |
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| ivoks | i could listen new edgy sounds whole day | 09:23 |
| Arbiter | lol | 09:24 |
| Amaranth | awesome stuff | 09:24 |
| Amaranth | kind of long though | 09:24 |
| Bazzi | I'm still updating... archive.ubuntu.com is painfully slow :/ | 09:25 |
| === Arbiter is trying gnome 2.16 | ||
| Arbiter | Bazzi: i've updated about 10-15mins ago | 09:25 |
| Arbiter | my download speed was around 500kB/s | 09:25 |
| Arbiter | :P | 09:25 |
| Bazzi | I'm getting just 30KB/s | 09:25 |
| Bazzi | and have 189MB to download | 09:25 |
| Arbiter | ow | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I'm at 30-50KB/s | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | 2 1/2 hrs to go :-) | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | for the download | 09:27 |
| Bazzi | 31m to go here, I've got 68% already | 09:27 |
| Arbiter | The following packages where automatically installed and are no longer required: | 09:28 |
| Arbiter | [..] | 09:28 |
| Arbiter | Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. | 09:28 |
| Arbiter | cool | 09:28 |
| Bazzi | :-) | 09:29 |
| Bazzi | aptitude does that as well | 09:29 |
| ivoks | too nice | 09:29 |
| Arbiter | Bazzi: yeah but this is an apt feature | 09:29 |
| Arbiter | builtin, no extra software | 09:29 |
| Arbiter | no more need of deborphan or such things | 09:29 |
| Arbiter | (i suppose) | 09:29 |
| Bazzi | well, aptitude is a standard tool as well :-) | 09:30 |
| Bazzi | I'm using it mostly now instead of apt-get | 09:31 |
| Arbiter | next step is trying upstart | 09:31 |
| Arbiter | :D | 09:31 |
| Bazzi | the automatic conflict resolving is great, too | 09:31 |
| Bazzi | Arbiter: heh, I was most surprised when I started testing upstart | 09:31 |
| Bazzi | it just....worked | 09:31 |
| Arbiter | really? | 09:31 |
| Bazzi | no manual script hacking, no configuring... everything was just fine | 09:32 |
| Arbiter | nice | 09:32 |
| Bazzi | and if you updated just 15 minutes ago upstart should be installed | 09:32 |
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| Arbiter | nope, i don't have it installed | 09:33 |
| Arbiter | :P | 09:33 |
| Bazzi | wasn't it defaulted by now? | 09:34 |
| Arbiter | don't know if its a depndency of *ubuntu-* metapackages | 09:34 |
| Arbiter | (since i don't have any of them installed) | 09:34 |
| Arbiter | ahhh ubuntu is great | 09:36 |
| Arbiter | is so innovative.. | 09:36 |
| Arbiter | :) | 09:36 |
| ivoks | :) | 09:36 |
| Bazzi | it is even in ubuntu-minimal now afaik | 09:36 |
| === Arbiter comes from distros like gentoo, slackware... | ||
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| Bazzi | Arbiter: ooooh! | 09:37 |
| Arbiter | with ubuntu i can have some relax :P | 09:37 |
| Bazzi | funny thing is, one of my friends was gentoo enthusiast, too | 09:37 |
| Bazzi | until he installed dapper recently | 09:37 |
| Bazzi | he was like "wow the ubuntu team is really doing a better job than I expected" | 09:37 |
| Arbiter | Bazzi: ah gentoo is great, it only takes a loooooong time to install/upgrade/install new software | 09:37 |
| Arbiter | :) | 09:38 |
| Bazzi | the new Core 2 Quadro will greatly help Gentoo users once it's out | 09:38 |
| Arbiter | Bazzi: doh, same as my reaction after my hoary installation :P | 09:38 |
| Bazzi | I'm most thankful as well, since ubuntu made desktoplinux for me usable | 09:39 |
| Bazzi | (though I still use windows as primary OS) | 09:39 |
| Arbiter | upstart installed | 09:40 |
| Arbiter | let's try it | 09:40 |
| Arbiter | brb | 09:40 |
| Arbiter | :) | 09:40 |
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| Arbiter | omg | 09:45 |
| Arbiter | it works | 09:46 |
| Arbiter | (partially) | 09:46 |
| Arbiter | keyboard doesn't work :P | 09:46 |
| === Arbiter fallback to slackware partition | ||
| Arbiter | uhm | 09:47 |
| Arbiter | it's better to keep sysvinit | 09:47 |
| Arbiter | :P | 09:47 |
| Bazzi | no :( | 09:47 |
| ivoks | usb keyboard? | 09:47 |
| Arbiter | PS2 keyboard | 09:47 |
| Arbiter | :P | 09:47 |
| ivoks | huh? | 09:48 |
| Arbiter | PS/2 | 09:48 |
| ivoks | that's too odd | 09:48 |
| Bazzi | you sure its not the X update that broke it? or doesnt it work on console as well? | 09:48 |
| Bazzi | or the kernel update | 09:49 |
| Arbiter | Bazzi: haven't tried | 09:49 |
| Bazzi | because I cannot image upstart breaking as simple things as keyboards | 09:49 |
| Arbiter | Bazzi: can't switch to tty :P | 09:49 |
| Bazzi | hehe | 09:49 |
| Arbiter | i'll try again | 09:50 |
| Arbiter | brb | 09:51 |
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| zul | hey ogra | 09:53 |
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| Arbiter | mh.. | 09:58 |
| Arbiter | lot of error messages while booting but.. | 09:58 |
| Arbiter | it boots :P | 09:58 |
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| Arbiter | slomo, ping | 10:19 |
| jordyp | Hi, what is the procedure for requesting updates to packages in multiverse? | 10:20 |
| hub | jordyp: launchpad bug | 10:27 |
| jordyp | hub: well basically about bug 32169 | 10:28 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 32169 in mythtv "Update to .19" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32169 | 10:28 |
| hub | then it will get triaged | 10:29 |
| jordyp | okay, so nothing else is needs to be done? | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | I'm pretty sure that is sort of being worked on | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | I don't think it's trivial | 10:31 |
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| jordyp | Well, I'm currently trying the packages I've rebuild in edgy under vmware | 10:35 |
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| jordyp | \whois hub | 10:43 |
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| geser | crimsun: ping? | 11:14 |
| crimsun_ | geser: pong | 11:14 |
| crimsun_ | my other client is defunct, host is being DDoSed. | 11:14 |
| geser | could you upload the php4-yaz fix for dapper-updates? | 11:14 |
| crimsun_ | was is approved by mdz? | 11:15 |
| crimsun_ | it, even | 11:15 |
| geser | I've got a mail from infinity stating "I'll happily push this through the UNAPPROVED queue if it's uploaded." | 11:15 |
| crimsun_ | if so, please sub me to the bug report, and I'll look at it this evening | 11:15 |
| geser | thanks | 11:15 |
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