=== fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _DvP_ [n=DvP@141.39.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000_ [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === printk [i=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Quinn_Storm [n=quinn@pool-71-253-28-35.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] hey guys, figured I'd ask again since new people might be here...does anyone know of any good way that I could build amd64 packages on i386? I would rather not have to build gcc from source... [01:41] in fact, as I expected, I can't even make the x86_64 gcc compile === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] it *may* be possible to cross-compile, but it really wouldn't be nice to setup [01:42] ok yeah...it just is getting obnoxious that I can't have fully up to date amd64 packages for my usres [01:42] just find someone who you trust to build amd64 packages when needed [01:42] users^ [01:42] I think maybe I'll see about a build service or something === ajmitch should set something up on his box :) === Quinn_Storm is just tired of amd64 users complaining since there's nothing for them === Quinn_Storm also...wishes she hadn't wasted 6 hours trying to build gcc [01:44] Quinn_Storm: Try buildd [01:44] grexk_: that won't help with the need to cross-compile [01:44] grexk_: still requires having the hardware === Quinn_Storm only owns a lowly i386 box === ajmitch had mini-dinstall chained up to pbuilder at one point === grexk_ ok.... === Quinn_Storm 's head hurts after all that staring at binutils/gcc stuff [01:45] hehehe === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@adj132.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=ash211@user-1121cud.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] that would be cool to cross compile but a pain in the ass [01:59] yeah [02:00] I wish I had an amd64 box...or someone who really trusted me (pbuilder needs root) [02:00] well they wouldn't have to -really- trust me if they had uml [02:01] hmm, if you use tt mode you should be able to install uml entirely from your normal user account [02:01] and then install a pbuilder inside it [02:01] tt mode? dunno much about that [02:02] uml has 3 modes [02:02] ah ok [02:04] skas mode is the best performing and most secure but needs special support in the host kernel [02:04] tt mode is the original mode and provides no secuirty (e.g. users inside your uml will be able to break out to your user account on the host [02:04] tt is exactly what I'd need to make a pbuilder though [02:04] tt jail mode has more security features than tt mode and doesn't need any special support on the host but is much slower than any of the other modes [02:05] I wish I could just cross-compile, heh === fbond|away is now known as fbond [02:10] this is new: [02:10] E: midisport-firmware: maintainer-script-calls-init-script-directly postinst:40 [02:10] how should I be calling an initscript from my maintainer script? [02:11] test for and use invoke-rc.d first only falling back to direct invocation if invoke-rc.d doesn't exist === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.147.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] crimsun: it's been over a month and a half since I sent the developper an e-mail to change the name from gnome-clipboard-daemon to clipboard-daemon . no response [03:14] ryanakca: which developer? [03:17] it's only developper, M. Lai I think... I'll check. [03:17] upstream upstream, then? [03:17] I wouldn't change the name without his/her explicit written approval [03:19] yes [03:19] Mr. H. Lai === ryanakca wonders if he'll get a reply before UniverseFreeze [03:21] don't worry about it for 6.10 === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] hmm.. .well, he's definetly not missing... he's a developper for AutoPackage [03:24] When is universe-freeze? [03:24] Sept 28t. [03:24] +h [03:24] Sept 28th [03:24] Cool. That gives me a bit more time to battle my nm-pptp-vpn plugin. === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] oh bugger [03:34] \o/ [03:34] crimsun, you seem to have a handle on udev, do you have time to help me out? [03:34] what's the issue? [03:35] my midisport-firmware package is now put together well, I think, but the firmware is no longer loaded by udev, although it worked fine under dapper [03:35] The device isn't recognized appropriately, it would seem. [03:36] I have a shallow understanding of the actual .rules file... [03:36] * I haven't yet uploaded the most recent version of the package to revu, but the rules file is the same [03:36] pointer please? === caravena [n=caravena@119-34-50.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/midisport-firmware-0608202105/midisport-firmware-1.2/42-midisport-firmware.rules.in [03:39] @firmwaredir@ is replaced during build with the correct path [03:39] fbond: Error: "firmwaredir@" is not a valid command. [03:39] hah [03:41] oh [03:41] usbfs isn't mounted by default anymore. [03:42] I have a hackaround for my homebrewed udev rule for the M-Audio DFU [03:42] ok, I don't know much about that [03:42] so, is there anything that I personally can do about that, or is this, "sorry, can't be helped?" [03:43] Does my udev rule need to mount usbfs? [03:43] I haven't checked fxload. Does it require usbfs? [03:43] I believe it does... [03:43] hang on 2 secs [03:43] the code will have a usbfs_t [03:43] if so, the code needs to be updated [03:44] unfortunately I haven't done that yet [03:44] ues ot dpes [03:44] sorry [03:44] yes it does require usbfs [03:45] the fxload code needs to be updated? [03:45] yes [03:45] to mount usbfs? [03:45] no, to note rely on usbfs [03:45] to not [03:45] (this lag is horrible) [03:45] interesting [03:45] that's ok [03:45] or, it's ok for me, anyway :) [03:46] so, can I help you with that, or is it better just to leave it to "those who know" [03:47] (I'm actually a little curious as to how one would remove a dependency like that, apart from a significant re-write...) [03:47] clemens needs to update it, else I'll just patch it and push it to him [03:47] ok, sounds good [03:47] in the meantime, I'll consider my package ready to go, so, keep that in mind if you have a few minutes to take a look :) [03:47] thanks for your help, too... [03:48] BTW fxload manpage also contains references to usbfs; may want to make sure the manpage gets patched, too... === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] hey all === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] hey Hobbsee [04:09] Hey Hobbsee. [04:10] hello Hobbsee [04:11] Hey ajmitch. [04:12] hey welshbyte, TheMuso, ajmitch === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@ubuntu/member/pdpc.carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=ash211@user-1121cud.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Hello everyone. I see there are several books that are free that are very interesting to linux. (Linux Device Drivers Rev 3 for example). Anyway, I was thinking about packaing these books into pdf (if not already) and creating debs to put them in /usr/share/doc. Now I know I for one would appreciate this. Do you guys feel this could be something that would be useful or should I not really bother? === DarkMageZ [n=darkmage@ppp9-140.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@203.23.49.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] http://sourceforge.net/projects/ufoai/ #16 most active on sf.net === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] bluefoxicy: good, caused they were almost dead for a long time [05:49] Burgundavia: nods, I'm gonna go shower, probably make sure that's on MOTU/Teams/Games in the wiki when I get back === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.167] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] !ping [06:00] ping: connection timeout [06:06] hmm === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-0d905dfe8fbfb2b6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.4.155.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ_ [n=darkmage@ppp46-32.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-62-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fabo [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-111-197.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] Hi everyone === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] [08:53] Are any MOTUs available to upload a patch for ettercap for me? It doesn't build at the moment. === sid [i=emanresu@tor/regular/sid] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@165.223-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho [n=andreas@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-40a2eda46b871ba3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1A02.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] good morning [09:22] good morning dholbach [09:22] hi Daniel [09:23] hey Kagou, hey Tollef! [09:33] moins dholbach Mithrandir and Kagou [09:33] hi imbrandon === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=albin@lns-bzn-26-82-254-83-201.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] hey imbrandon === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 is back (gone 00:39:34) [09:53] cypher1, please turn off away/back messages [09:54] imbrandon: sure.. sorry.. [09:54] no worries ;) [09:54] :) === xerxas_ [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-111-197.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] tomorow is REVU DAY right [09:55] nothing mentioned in topic :( [09:55] yes tomarrow is revu day === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:imbrandon] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | REVU Day Sept 8th | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fg [09:56] there ya go ;) [09:56] :D thanks [09:56] :) === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@a80-186-122-109.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra_ [n=zdra@126.164-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] imbrandon: the last bit is truncated [10:08] ahh yea topic limit [10:08] hrm [10:09] drop the UNMETDEPS and mysqlclient stuff [10:09] yea i was just thinking that, its been there for months [10:09] the other link too [10:09] MOTU bugs [10:09] kk === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:imbrandon] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | REVU Day Sept 8th | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU [10:11] super [10:11] ;) [10:11] cool === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:22] who is william grant ? [10:24] https://launchpad.net/people/fujitsu ? [10:25] ahh ok === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.4.155.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@a80-186-122-109.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@210.0.212.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter says hello to everyone === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou hugs dholbach === dholbach hugs Kagou back === Tonio__ [n=tonio@21.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin_ [n=albin@lns-bzn-22-82-249-80-31.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin_ is now known as Lutin === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] morning === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@19.Red-213-97-18.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] /quit === fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@85.25.106.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === frandavid100 [n=david@84-123-96-251.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] hi guys [01:12] are we still in time to include new packages in edgy's universe? === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] frandavid100: hi [01:12] yes :) [01:12] hi phanatic [01:13] I'm very interested in getting CCL, an internet cafe control software into the repos [01:14] But I don't still have the skills to make a compliant package, so a guy from ubuntuforums did it for me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1472615#post1472615 [01:14] it still needs some tweaks I think... when's the deadline? [01:16] 28th september i think [01:17] still lots of time then... somehow I thought it was this week [01:18] what if we fixed the thing and uploaded it to REVU? do you think i would hit edgy, or does it take lots of time to revise? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] frandavid100: it depends. but my advice is to go ahead :) [01:24] hey Gloubiboulga [01:24] hello phanatic [01:25] it does work ^^ I'll have to check the package descriptions and the copyright info, but it's basically done!! === ceruno [n=mfcabrer@xue.unalmed.edu.co] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] see you later guys [01:46] thanks for all phanatic === frandavid100 [n=david@84-123-96-251.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-4.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-149-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] Erm, what's up with jonpollack's karma? [01:59] He's apparently the 5th-top Ubuntu contributor, with > 500000 karma, and only two karma-related actions. [02:02] Fujitsu: lol, it's more than interesting :) [02:02] It's the oddest thing I've ever seen on Launchpad. And I've seen a lot of odd things. === Fujitsu_ [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-62-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beligum [n=beligum@d54C49C69.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] hi all, I'm about to upload a new package to REVU and I'm wondering if I've got everything [02:40] did a dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot && dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot [02:40] that's it? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] beligum: the last command should be enough [02:44] ah, ok === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.127.102.124] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] so now, all I need is dput *_source.changes ? [02:45] beligum: yea [02:45] great [02:45] beligum: dput revu *source.changes [02:46] you dont need the revu if you've changed dput.cf though [02:46] ah, allright [02:46] should I wait for someone to review the packages, or commit now? [02:46] (otherwise you'll be trying to upload straight to the ubuntu archives, and it will decline you) [02:46] beligum: does commit mean run the dput command? [02:47] yes, indeed, sorry [02:47] beligum: people will look after you dput - that's what revu is there for === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] ok, it's just that Ridell offered to review them first [02:49] beligum: he'll want you to upload to revu, and review them there, i'm guessing [02:49] this is a new package? [02:49] yes [02:50] ScreenKast, a screen-capturing program [02:50] yeah, dput it [02:50] sounds nice :) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] hmmm, what's the difference between debuild and dpkg-buildpackage [03:15] ? [03:17] beligum: debuild is a wrapper around the latter. [03:17] ic [03:17] beligum: debuild also can run things like lintian or linda after dpkg-buildpackage finishes [03:18] Hmmmm; E: Couldn't find package debuild [03:18] you might have to install devscripts === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:20e:a6ff:fea4:4ab5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] cool, so debuild does everything necessary to release to package? [03:25] it doestn call debsign [03:25] ah, k [03:27] I thought it could? [03:27] Sure it can === StevenK waves to manual page at Hobbsee [03:27] s/to/the/ [03:27] er...debuild -S [03:28] StevenK: it probably could. doesnt by default though === Hobbsee waves her axe at StevenK [03:28] lol [03:28] crap, I get a newer-standards-version 3.7.2, should I change to that? === TheMuso waves to Hobbsee and StevenK. === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee [03:30] hey TheMuso === Hobbsee tickles Mithrandir back, and stomps on his levitated feet [03:30] beligum: no that's fine. === lloydinho [n=andreas@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] beligum: StevenK needs to get his version updated [03:30] Hobbsee: how's .au today? [03:30] GRR! [03:30] Hobbsee: That's Lintian! [03:31] *NOT* Linda [03:31] StevenK: i thought linda was giving that anyway. [03:31] And I thought I fixed it. [03:31] Mithrandir: i'm being yelled at by StevenK. au still exists. === Hobbsee hides from StevenK === synic [n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] Hey Hobbsee. Manage to prevent yourself from being blown over today? :) [03:33] Just to be difficult: how do I build a package on one machine, but sign it on another? [03:33] TheMuso: just [03:33] beligum: debsign -r - check man debsign [03:34] Hobbsee, thx [03:34] beligum: assuming you've got ssh from one machine to the other [03:34] yeah, sure [03:34] beligum: otherwise copy the source from one machine to the other, then sign it on the other machine [03:36] Hobbsee, just out of curiousity, does the binary or the source get signed? [03:36] or both? [03:36] beligum: the source. === Hobbsee wonders if you can sign a binary [03:36] well, you specify what you want signed [03:36] usually the source.changes === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] !info dpkg-sig edgy [03:40] dpkg-sig: create and verify signatures on .deb-files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 232 kB === Zdra [n=zdra@126.164-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] How bad are the error messages lintian returns? [03:49] depends what they are [03:51] where do I upload my gpg key in launchpad? [03:52] synic: launchpad/people/yournick and hit the gpg thing [03:56] I've a dilemma here: don't think the packages (libinstrudeo & ScreenKast) will be finished and I'll have to leave in an hour and won't be back till Sunday, should I sent them to REPO anyway? [03:57] damn, REVU that is ;) [03:57] yes [03:57] they'll just sit there, no problem [03:57] ok [04:03] ok... so now I'm supposed to ask to be added to the universe contributors team [04:03] Can someone tell me what happens after uploading to REVU, just quickly? [04:03] (btw, done) [04:05] who do I ask for that? [04:06] synic: see the /topic ? [04:07] ah. [04:07] beligum: you give people in here the link, ask them to look at it, MOTU's can look and review it. if you get two passes, they upload it [04:07] Hobbsee, great, thanks for that === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] After loggin in with email at revu and pressing recover, I get this python error: Mod_python error: "PythonHandler mod_python.publisher" [04:14] got a traceback too [04:15] siretart: *poke* [04:15] eh, probably idling [04:15] beligum: siretart may well want that error pastebinned, and a link given to him [04:15] ok, sec [04:17] hmm, now it changed [04:18] to "To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell:" ... [04:18] but plaintext, no html [04:19] and? [04:19] you want to use the plaintext [04:19] it's all encrypted === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves to dholbach [04:22] No, I mean, after logging in at revu, and pressing recover, I get some plaintext message (pastebin not cooperating here) [04:25] It says: "To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell:", but I can't see the message or any html at all === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] http://bpower2.com/revuerror.txt [04:27] that's the python error [04:28] ahhh... [04:28] that [04:31] beligum: try reloading === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] done now, I get this: bpower2.com/revuerror2.txt [04:37] How long should I wait before the uploads show up on revu ? [04:38] beligum: 5-10 minutes max. [04:39] did you upload exaile_0.2.2_i386.changes ? [04:39] nope, libinstrudeo and screenkast [04:40] your key isn't in the keyring. are you already in the lp group? [04:42] yes, I think so [04:43] I'm in the ubuntu universe package contrib group [04:44] uploaded and confirmed my key last night, thought that was done === xerxas_ [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-111-111.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] beligum: processed manually now [04:47] try lostpw again, please [04:49] nope, error2 again [04:52] siretart: that was me. Something wrong with it? [04:52] synic: yes. the part about exaile_0.2.2_i386.changes === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] hrmm? === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.127.101.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] Heya gang [04:55] siretart: what do I need to do to fix it? === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] synic: upload a exaile_0.2.2_source.changes file instead [04:58] ah, ok === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] ok. lostpw.py should do again now [05:00] was indeed a silly permissions problem. which really needs to be fixed at some point [05:02] Heya siretart [05:03] Hi all, thanks for all the help [05:03] huhu bddebian. how are you? [05:03] screenKast and libinstrudeo successfully uploaded [05:03] siretart: OK, thanks. You? [05:04] bddebian: badly stressed with move, thesis, gf, the world.. [05:04] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3048 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3047 [05:04] Would be great if you could take a look [05:04] siretart: Heh, I hear that man [05:06] Anyway, I'm off to France, cya on Sunday or Monday === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] Hi [05:10] bddebian, is there a policy related to the x-session-managers packaging ? [05:11] Lutin: Hello. Probably but I couldn't tell you what it is unfortunately. Sorry. [05:11] bddebian, ok. [05:11] thanks === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:23] what could be a reason why a package builds fine in a pbuilder but not on the buildds? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] geser: maybe your pbuilder is not updated [05:24] geser: is it on the same arch? [05:24] geser: What's the error on the build log on the buildd? [05:24] Heya LaserJock [05:24] it builds in my pbuilder [05:25] geser: I mean on LaunchPad? [05:25] http://librarian.launchpad.net/4165426/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-powerpc.libgtk-java_2.9.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [05:25] ia64 failed with the same error [05:26] the last try on amd64 dito (the current try failed because of a chroot problem) === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] geser: What arch are you building on x86? [05:28] it try on amd64 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-233.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-4.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:50] please how must i do when i package a login display manager ? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@19.Red-213-97-18.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] bddebian: I tried to build the package again but now w/o the arch-indep packages and it failed === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ChaosFan [i=chaos@andariel.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@88-136-29-82.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:20e:a6ff:fea4:4ab5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck- [n=NSutton@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] hallo [06:53] anyone here using edgy yet? === fowlduck- [n=NSutton@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] I'm not actually [06:56] boooooooooooo! er.. ;D [06:56] I was going to do a dist-upgrade maybe today [06:57] oh, cool [06:57] i mean, is it nearing completion? Only a month left [06:58] fowlduck: yeah, it's considered usable now (feature freeze is tonight) [06:58] Well I have two Edgy machines at work. Neither working atm [06:58] oh, coooooool [06:58] lol [06:58] lol === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:58] lets see, one for it, one undecided, and one (bddebian) definitely against [06:59] I am not against it, I just can't get it working on those machines :-( [06:59] yeah, I *did* have a working edgy machine [06:59] :-) [06:59] rm -rf /bddebian/workputers/edgy [06:59] Heh === LaserJock hates Windows :( [07:02] where is that list of packages that are under revu? [07:02] darn, it "working directory C:\ is not valid" [07:02] fowlduck-: revu.tauware.de [07:02] does feature freeze apply to universe? [07:03] no [07:03] my _only_ machine is running edgy :) [07:03] we have Universe Freeze (28th) which is UVF+FF [07:03] so please don't break it :) [07:03] yeah, I tried edgy on 3 machines [07:03] 2 went unbootable [07:04] but I got that worked out [07:04] and then my main dev machine decided it didn't want networking [07:04] and I couldn't figure out what the problem was [07:04] so I wiped it and put on 6.06.1 [07:04] weird [07:04] the only problems i'm having can be safely blamed on nvidia === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] I tried installing a few different Knot2 .isos and none worked :-) [07:05] I think that computer must have issues [07:05] well, except for both my cores using the performance governor on boot and one of them being reset to performance on resume === fowlduck- [n=NSutton@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] 1.3GHz + 256MB ram I think might be a part of the problem [07:05] grrr [07:05] school computers [07:06] LaserJock, I tried a desktop install on similar hardware.....that failed miserably [07:06] "can't live with them, can't format them" ;-) [07:06] I tried a kubuntu alternative install [07:06] and still pooped? argh [07:06] and perhaps an Ubuntu arlternative as well [07:07] well, they keep dying at the end [07:10] well, i need to fix this junk up and get these packages out, ack [07:10] bddebian, you commented on my package, I was wondering what specifically looks weird about the copyright: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2764 [07:11] bddebian, that is, if you have time === fowlduck- [n=NSutton@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] fowlduck: I don't remember off-hand. Do you still have the full copyright in there? [07:18] no, I don't think so, but you said "debian/copyright still looks a little strange" [07:18] i can check tonight when I get home [07:19] orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i can get out my laptop === pirast [n=martin@p508B2326.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] fowlduck-: Yeah, you still have the whole: "How to apply GPL to your New programs" stuff [07:21] oh yeah [07:22] oh, I thought you were supposed to include only the first few paragraphs [07:22] hmmm, my mistake i suppose [07:23] wait, quote from the previous comment by ajmitch, "debian/copyright has the whole GPL in it. It is better to use the 3 paragraphs listed in the section "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs" & then give a reference to the rest of the license. Most other packages that use the GPL can be looked at as an example" === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50803ED2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:23] Hmm, OK, it just looked like more than I am used to [07:23] ok, I'll still take a look tonight [07:23] I know less about all the licensing crap than I do about packaging in general :-) === fowlduck- [n=NSutton@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] where could i find all db_* binaries and what is them ? === SLO_Marik [i=reger@BSN-61-49-102.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SLO_Marik [i=reger@BSN-61-49-102.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === fowlduck- [n=duck@205.213.122.181] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42] if i'm on dapper, to build an edgy environment in pbuilder is as trivial as specifying it in the initial pbuilder command, correct? [07:44] Sp4rKy: db_* sounds like Berkeley DB [07:46] does he mean dh_*? [07:48] no db_ [07:49] fowlduck-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics lists the steps to create an egdy pbuilder on dapper [07:49] db4.3-util for db4.3 [07:49] in gdm postinst script, many software like db_get are used [07:49] and db4.4-util for libdb4.4 [07:49] the programms are called db4.x_* to be co-installable [07:49] geser, many thanks :) [07:49] where x is 3 or 4 === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] moin === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] hmm, what's a good way to test your download speed [08:11] I should have a very good connection [08:11] but all the Ubuntu mirrors seem to be giving me like 20-30 kB/s [08:11] http://speedtest.tds.net/ [08:11] find a site that does a speed test [08:21] hmm [08:22] are the ubuntu mirrors syncing or something maybe? [08:25] anybody know the status of compiz-kde? looks like still a pretty old package in edgy, maybe from dapper, depending on a really old compiz [08:26] (uninstallable) [08:26] hmm, well I don't get it, perhaps they are syncing or maybe getting hit hard [08:27] but I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade and it'd be nice to have it done by the weekend ;-) [08:30] LaserJock: yeah my last one took almost 24 hours, between all the downloading, installing, apt-get -f install, update again, etc. [08:30] LaserJock: what mirror are you using? [08:31] trappist: Portland, right now === cassidy [n=cassidy@dhcp204.iihe.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] it's the fastest I could find, and I"m getting ~50kB/s === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] ack === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.228] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@126.164-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] i could listen new edgy sounds whole day [09:24] lol [09:24] awesome stuff [09:24] kind of long though [09:25] I'm still updating... archive.ubuntu.com is painfully slow :/ === Arbiter is trying gnome 2.16 [09:25] Bazzi: i've updated about 10-15mins ago [09:25] my download speed was around 500kB/s [09:25] :P [09:25] I'm getting just 30KB/s [09:25] and have 189MB to download [09:26] ow [09:26] yeah, I'm at 30-50KB/s [09:26] 2 1/2 hrs to go :-) [09:27] for the download [09:27] 31m to go here, I've got 68% already [09:28] The following packages where automatically installed and are no longer required: [09:28] [..] [09:28] Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. [09:28] cool [09:29] :-) [09:29] aptitude does that as well [09:29] too nice [09:29] Bazzi: yeah but this is an apt feature [09:29] builtin, no extra software [09:29] no more need of deborphan or such things [09:29] (i suppose) [09:30] well, aptitude is a standard tool as well :-) [09:31] I'm using it mostly now instead of apt-get [09:31] next step is trying upstart [09:31] :D [09:31] the automatic conflict resolving is great, too [09:31] Arbiter: heh, I was most surprised when I started testing upstart [09:31] it just....worked [09:31] really? [09:32] no manual script hacking, no configuring... everything was just fine [09:32] nice [09:32] and if you updated just 15 minutes ago upstart should be installed === jordyp [n=jordy@82-168-235-23.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] nope, i don't have it installed [09:33] :P [09:34] wasn't it defaulted by now? [09:34] don't know if its a depndency of *ubuntu-* metapackages [09:34] (since i don't have any of them installed) [09:36] ahhh ubuntu is great [09:36] is so innovative.. [09:36] :) [09:36] :) [09:36] it is even in ubuntu-minimal now afaik === Arbiter comes from distros like gentoo, slackware... === ivoks runs gdmflexiserver -n, just too look at new theme [09:37] Arbiter: ooooh! [09:37] with ubuntu i can have some relax :P [09:37] funny thing is, one of my friends was gentoo enthusiast, too [09:37] until he installed dapper recently [09:37] he was like "wow the ubuntu team is really doing a better job than I expected" [09:37] Bazzi: ah gentoo is great, it only takes a loooooong time to install/upgrade/install new software [09:38] :) [09:38] the new Core 2 Quadro will greatly help Gentoo users once it's out [09:38] Bazzi: doh, same as my reaction after my hoary installation :P [09:39] I'm most thankful as well, since ubuntu made desktoplinux for me usable [09:39] (though I still use windows as primary OS) [09:40] upstart installed [09:40] let's try it [09:40] brb [09:40] :) === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] omg [09:46] it works [09:46] (partially) [09:46] keyboard doesn't work :P === Arbiter fallback to slackware partition [09:47] uhm [09:47] it's better to keep sysvinit [09:47] :P [09:47] no :( [09:47] usb keyboard? [09:47] PS2 keyboard [09:47] :P [09:48] huh? [09:48] PS/2 [09:48] that's too odd [09:48] you sure its not the X update that broke it? or doesnt it work on console as well? [09:49] or the kernel update [09:49] Bazzi: haven't tried [09:49] because I cannot image upstart breaking as simple things as keyboards [09:49] Bazzi: can't switch to tty :P [09:49] hehe [09:50] i'll try again [09:51] brb === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] hey ogra === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548ADBCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] mh.. [09:58] lot of error messages while booting but.. 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[10:31] I'm pretty sure that is sort of being worked on [10:31] I don't think it's trivial === Nidan [n=Nidan-Wo@gw-hrn01.dsl.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nidan [n=Nidan-Wo@gw-hrn01.dsl.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] Well, I'm currently trying the packages I've rebuild in edgy under vmware === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:43] \whois hub === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@afb241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun_ [i=crimsun@adhd.irule.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:e7:ad:d1c7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=albin@lns-bzn-22-82-249-80-31.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye"] [11:14] crimsun: ping? [11:14] geser: pong [11:14] my other client is defunct, host is being DDoSed. [11:14] could you upload the php4-yaz fix for dapper-updates? [11:15] was is approved by mdz? [11:15] it, even [11:15] I've got a mail from infinity stating "I'll happily push this through the UNAPPROVED queue if it's uploaded." 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