[12:01] <mcphail> james296: if you are a serious gamer, you need to keep windows
[12:01] <ladydoor> Linuturk: the most recent i386 one, yes...there's also an i686 one
[12:01] <adiddy> i might install 5.10 of ubuntu next month is it easy? or shout i just tsick with suse open 10.1?
[12:01] <bhrobinson> brian98, what does it do?
[12:01] <adiddy> there must be
[12:01] <ladydoor> Linuturk: (which is the same version number)
[12:01] <blurd> can anyone help me?
[12:01] <docgnome> I'm having problems setting up dansguardian with tinyproxy. I'm trying to use ipkungfu for my firewall because it makes it easy to share my internet connection with my local network. Currently I have dansguardian set to block everything, just to see if i can get it to work. It appears that dansguardian is just being by passed though, even though it is running on port 8080 and ipkungfu is redirecting traffic from 80 to 8080
[12:01] <Lysit> I mean the restarting network services
[12:01] <mad_man> ladydoor: i did not know that could be the case. All files don't have a extension to them ?
[12:01] <shut-> i cant i need help myself
[12:01] <shut-> :P
[12:01] <ladydoor> mad_man: that depends. what dir are you looking at?
[12:01] <brian__> to restart network services  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:01] <adiddy> can update the screen saver?
[12:01] <Lysit> thank you
[12:01] <blurd> say my name if ur talking to me...
[12:01] <nozorro> nozorro: the dns addresses given to you by your isp should still be entered on the win box, despite it being behind the firewall ... or else the win box can't know which address has google.com, for instance
[12:01] <ladydoor> mad_man: and what kind of files are they?
[12:02] <xbehave2> adiddy its easy i did it this morning just to fix grub
[12:02] <brian98> bhrobinson: http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xrandr.3.html
[12:02] <Linuturk> ladydoor, http://pastebin.ca/162843 << does that look right?
[12:02] <brian98> corpsefeeder: Did you get sorted?
[12:02] <mcphail> mad_man: file extensions were a terrible invention
[12:02] <james296> fine I guess I'll split my HD so I have XP professional...
[12:02] <brian__> shut - is your printer listed under system- administration-printing ?
[12:02] <Linuturk> ok, http://pastebin.ca/162843 << is that the most recent everyone?
[12:02] <ladydoor> Linuturk: looks fine to me...
[12:02] <lupine_85>  CorpseFeeder: You still haven't said what kernel you're running
[12:02] <dash|Kye> how does one create a mount point?
[12:03] <Linuturk> ladydoor, thanks
[12:03] <ladydoor> Linuturk: np
[12:03] <bhrobinson> brian98, sweet... let me know if you get it working
[12:03] <adiddy> ok?!
[12:03] <shut-> mo
[12:03] <shut-> no
[12:03] <mwe> james296: that's what most people do
[12:03] <adiddy> i think i'm gonna try open suse
[12:03] <brian__> how do you have it connected to your computer?
[12:03] <mad_man> ladydoor: i wrote the files with kate. they are text files wright ? extension a bad window habbit of mine ?
[12:03] <xbehave2> james install xp 1st i find xp doesnt like installing with anything else
[12:03] <shut-> usb
[12:03] <james296> problem is since I dont have as much space on my HD the OS runs a bit slower...
[12:03] <dmembrane> flash problems here...help?
[12:03] <ladydoor> mad_man: yeah, on text files there'll be no extension unless you specifically put one
[12:03] <shut-> flash
[12:03] <shut-> :P
[12:03] <ladydoor> mad_man: office software like openoffice will append an extension
[12:03] <kaolti> nozorro: yes but i dont know the dns from the ISP cause its set automaticaly.i just have to enable DHCP, i dont enter DNS addresses on ubuntu/windows to connect
[12:04] <xbehave2> HD space shouldnt affect runing speed
[12:04] <mcphail> mad_man: extensions are neither required nor desirable
[12:04] <adiddy> i had isse with flash thumb drive in 6 asw ell
[12:04] <ladydoor> mad_man: but adding extensions to text files (especially config files) will only confuse the system
[12:04] <adiddy> swamp might
[12:04] <mwe> james296: well 10GB is enough for linux unless you keep your movie collection there or something
[12:04] <adiddy> 80 gb enough?
[12:04] <brian__> shut - if you try to add a new printer, does a detected printer show up ?
[12:04] <nozorro> kaolti: ah sorry, if you are on dsl for instance this might not be necessary
[12:04] <mad_man> mcphail: very well put
[12:04] <CorpseFeeder> kernel is 2.6.15-26 686
[12:04] <james296> I have a 160gb hd, what percentage should I split the HD at?
[12:04] <adiddy> cable net is a tad better
[12:04] <kaolti> nozorro: :) thats a relief.thanks again
[12:04] <mwe> james296: just 10GB for linux I'd say
[12:04] <shut-> no
[12:04] <zoidberg> xopher: what is cedega atm....what does that have to do with STEAM?
[12:05] <adiddy> gonna use suse
[12:05] <lupine_85> kaolti: if you set the DNS to be the same as the router's IP, it should work fine
[12:05] <mcphail> mad_man: linux is clever enough to work out what a file is by examining its content
[12:05] <nozorro> kaolti: try to reach dsl router from win box
[12:05] <rixxon> man, networkmanager is sweet when you get it working!
[12:05] <xbehave2> 10gb linux is what im runing i have no probs
[12:05] <adiddy> emugetting a 80 gb drive
[12:05] <kaolti> nozorro:ok
[12:05] <bean-oh> anyone get ubuntu running on a IBM hs20 blade?
[12:05] <adiddy> wd
[12:05] <adiddy> nope
[12:05] <nozorro> kaolti: with webbrowser if possible
[12:06] <CorpseFeeder> erUsul: I tried sudo make install and I got "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."
[12:06] <blurd> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WOW
[12:06] <xopher> zoidberg, what do you mean by that? Its not freeware :/ And it runs steam, but steam runs fine on wine too..
[12:06] <blurd> I cant update or install anything
[12:06] <james296> oh, does the linux partitoner split the percentage of Ubuntu or Windows? like what if I put it at 52% is that for linux or windows?
[12:06] <DShepherd> can you do mutilple session burning with nautilus burner?
[12:06] <broken> anyone know how to start up xserver-xephyr on ubuntu?
[12:06] <adiddy> why ibm xserve looks much better for a web server
[12:06] <nozorro> kaolti: so you go step by step and see how far the packages get carried through
[12:06] <xbehave2> xopher not always
[12:06] <shut-> blurd what id u do
[12:06] <blurd> FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[12:06] <blurd> woops
[12:06] <blurd> The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:06] <adiddy> why dual install?
[12:06] <xbehave2> i cant get steam to run on my wine
[12:06] <blurd> thats what it says
[12:06] <kaolti> nozorro: yea thats good strategy
[12:07] <xopher> xbehave2, what version are you running?
[12:07] <adiddy> if u like linux so much? if your gonna install dicth windows forever!
[12:07] <xbehave2> of wine or steam?
[12:07] <adiddy> wine only can run web browser in kde
[12:07] <xopher> wine
[12:07] <adiddy> not much good for anything else
[12:07] <quintin_> Can someone here tell me how to play videos on yahoo news with Ubuntu
[12:07] <xbehave2> 0.9.9
[12:07] <nozorro> kaolti: also, check built-in firewall of dsl router (if any) after you get things working -- making sure the 2 firewalls don't hamper each other
[12:07] <brian__> shut - i assume you have cycled the power on the printer and unplugged/plugged it back in?
[12:07] <mad_man> ladydoor: mcphail thank you, i just started working with linux, i'm learning this system better. printing was the last thing from keeping me from linux. i have printing working now
[12:08] <adiddy> the project is taking to long to get any good
[12:08] <ladydoor> mad_man: sweet! glad to hear it!
[12:08] <xopher> xbehave2, theres like a 0.9.20 atleast already, you should try that out..
[12:08] <mcphail> mad_man: you'll enjoy it
[12:08] <adiddy> my issue is firefox/gnome
[12:08] <kaolti> nozorro: ok
[12:08] <mad_man> <== full time linux user
[12:08] <xopher> but gotta go to sleep, good night all
[12:08] <adiddy> macromedia and java isssue s it won't be my installed os
[12:08] <nozorro> kaolti: can you finally rech the web from the win box?
[12:08] <blackline> I have reached a dead end, not getting my sound to work at all. If you have time, please read my post and answer either here or in the forum: http://www.nuxified.org/sound_driver_trouble_gstreamer_alsa
[12:08] <nozorro> kaolti: *reach the web
[12:08] <adiddy> my sound auto configed
[12:08] <mad_man> !sound
[12:08] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:09] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[12:09] <blackline> adiddy - my sound have worked befoe
[12:09] <broken> anyone know how to start up xserver-xephyr on ubuntu =
[12:09] <broken> 0
[12:09] <xbehave2> thx ill upgrade tomorow
[12:09] <adiddy> sound blaster 24 bit
[12:09] <rofl0r> quintin, use easyubuntu http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:09] <kaolti> nozorro: nah i gota wait till tommorow cause its a friends pc
[12:09] <M3G4crux> I am having problem I didnt have before with my bt-headset
[12:09] <CromagDK> !netinstall
[12:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:09] <adiddy> i'm going with open ssue
[12:09] <dash|Kye> I am trying to mount a second hard drive that I have [formatted in ext3 atm] , but can't get it to work
[12:09] <adiddy> looking super easy to install
[12:09] <xbehave2> in gnome is there a comand that will some how, i really dont care how, take focus away from another when alt-tab isnt working
[12:09] <docgnome> does anyone know anything about configuring dansguardian and tinyproxy? I'm having trouble with it. I have to share my internet connection with my lan and, it appears that the firewall i'm using to do that (ipkungfu) is bypassing dansguardian...
[12:09] <dash|Kye> d@sh-main:/dev$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc /media/Media/
[12:09] <dash|Kye> mount: No medium found
[12:09] <kaolti> nozoroo: if i want to share files and copy stuff from 1 box to the other i have to set up something like samba right?
[12:10] <hondje> dash|Kye: You can't mount the whole drive, you need a partition, so /dev/hdc1 for example
[12:10] <hondje> afaik, ymmv, etc etc
[12:10] <dash|Kye> it doesn't show as a partition in /dev
[12:10] <M3G4crux> anyone can tell me how can I make the bluetooth system to ask me again for the password of the bt-headset. At the moment all attempts to connect them again lead to messages such as: Host is down, Permission denied, Sdp server not implemented, etc.
[12:10] <nozorro> kaolti: basically, yes. there are other possibilities, but samba is the most common
[12:10] <xbehave2> *key combo not command
[12:11] <dash|Kye> how can I get it to show if it has partitions or not?
[12:11] <kaolti> nozoroo: can i get it with atp-get?
[12:11] <xopher> dash|Kye, fdisk -l /dev/hdx
[12:12] <brian98> !umount
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <nozorro> kaolti: well yes, but why don't you use the graphical tools provided?
[12:12] <dash|Kye> -l is list or something?
[12:12] <dash|Kye> I would prefer to not wipe this drive just yet
[12:12] <nozorro> kaolti: they're easier to deal with
[12:12] <DShepherd> can you do mutilple session burning with nautilus burner?
[12:12] <lupine_85>  CorpseFeeder: ok, the module is built fine, so install it (sudo make install or just copy all the .ko files to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra)
[12:13] <xopher> dash|Kye, yes, -l is list
[12:13] <lupine_85> then just continue with the HOWTO
[12:13] <barata> hallo, how to add fonts?
[12:13] <Coraxyn> Can Ubuntu support 3 graphics card/minitors?
[12:13] <jman8888> Hey can anybody help me with my Grub file..
[12:13] <grout> is there a channel for ubuntu center?
[12:13] <jman8888> (If grub is what lets me tri boot)
[12:13] <barata> is there a gui for adding fonts in ubuntu or I still have to use the terminal?
[12:13] <blurd> installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.
[12:13] <blurd> LMAO
[12:13] <blurd> NO OPS
[12:13] <nozorro> !ops
[12:14] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:14] <blurd> :D
[12:14] <blurd> spam time@@@@@@@
[12:14] <blurd> jk
[12:14] <dash|Kye> fdisk -l doesn't do anything
[12:14] <kaolti> nozoroo: add/remove applications?
[12:14] <CromagDK> !liveCD install
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liveCD install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <xopher> dash|Kye, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdx
[12:15] <dash|Kye> still nothing
[12:15] <dash|Kye> no errors, just goes to the next line
[12:15] <kaolti> nozoroo: cant find it
[12:15] <levander> Okay, my dist-upgrade to dapper didn't go well.  I got an error saying package python2.4-twisted had unmet dependencies.  Now when I run dist-upgrade I get the error message: 'sendmail: fatal: gethostbyname: resource temporarily unavailable'.  So, I try to restart bind9, with 'sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart' and I get that same gethostbyname error message.  Any suggestions??
[12:15] <nozorro> kaolti: yes. a middle way between this and apt-get is synaptic (in System > Administration), it allows finer-grained control over installation
[12:15] <xopher> well just run 'sudo fdisk -l' it should show all the hard drives connected
[12:15] <TylerDurdener> hey, i installed xubuntu and id like to uninstall it, i tried apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop but it said its in use (although im in gnome right now), how can i remove it?
[12:15] <jman8888> Can anyboty help me with grub..
[12:15] <levander> dist-upgrade stops running after that gethostbyname error
[12:15] <shut-> it found my printer
[12:16] <nozorro> kaolti: also see System >Administration > Software Properties
[12:16] <shut-> but then when u hit forward
[12:16] <sethk> jman8888, depends on what the problem is
[12:16] <xbehave2> tyler have you tried via packet management
[12:16] <shut-> it says pick a modle
[12:16] <dmembrane> i cannot get to the desktop on my directory....can someone help me understand why?
[12:16] <jman8888> sethk, I cant boot into ubuntu normal (Only in recovery)
[12:17] <sethk> dmembrane, what do you mean by "cannot get to"?
[12:17] <kaolti> nozoroo: "Enter the complete APT line of the channel that you want to add" am i at the right place?
[12:17] <sethk> jman8888, what happens if you try a normal boot?
[12:17] <jman8888> Error 15  : Cannot find file.
[12:18] <dmembrane> i extracted my 'install_flash_player_7_linux' folder into my desktop...but cannot access it in the terminal
[12:18] <sethk> jman8888, ok, either your grub config file, /boot/grub/menu.lst is wrong, or grub is installed incorrectly.  Very probably the former.  Paste your menu.lst file to the paste 'bot
[12:18] <TylerDurdener> !uninstall
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <jman8888> sethk, Paste bot?
[12:18] <shut-> !flash
[12:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <sethk> !paste
[12:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:18] <jman8888> !paste bot
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <stinkball> I need some help configuring samba to access fileshares in windows
[12:18] <jman8888> !paste
[12:19] <nozorro> kaolti: use this if you want to add custom sw repositories. these are quite inofficial though. use with a bit of care. the complete address for the channel should be on corresp. web page. if not sure, read some docu first
[12:19] <mwe> dmembrane: you don't need that. just enable multiverse and install the ubuntu package
[12:19] <shut-> !flash > dmembrane
[12:19] <shut-> lol
[12:19] <shut-> see if it works
[12:19] <simtower> allo does anyone know what command to use to start xephyr xserver? =)
[12:19] <shut-> :P
[12:19] <mad_man> if i change this line:root ALL=(ALL) ALL to ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL in the sudoers file will stop ubuntu from asking for the root passwd all the time ?
[12:20] <tgelter> hey all, just looking for a program that does multithread downloads (like download accelerator plus for windows)...anyone know of any good ones that support multiple files and has a gui for gnome?
[12:20] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea? please PM me
[12:20] <sethk> mad_man, yes, making your system security even more of a joke than the normal sudo configuration
[12:20] <mwe> dmembrane: install flashplugin-nonfree after enabling the multiverse repo
[12:20] <sethk> covOPprometheus, the software cannot stop the laptop hardware from acting on the closed lid
[12:20] <mwe> mad_man: no
[12:20] <simtower> yes your laptop is probably shutting down your video hardware
[12:21] <dmembrane> enable the multiverse repo?
[12:21] <laz0r> hi, i have this problem -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/45550
[12:21] <mwe> mad_man: and please don't do what you're trying
[12:21] <laz0r> is there any solution?
[12:21] <dmembrane> next noise from me...."duh"
[12:21] <mwe> mad_man: use sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need to do a lot as root
[12:21] <CorpseFeeder> ok, i am editing rt61sta.dat - how do I know what my countryregion= or countryregionAband= is?
[12:22] <CorpseFeeder> i can't find anything that mentions countryregion or countryregionaband in my router settings
[12:22] <covOPprometheus> sethk, hmm, yep, but I'm not sure what it does, it must stop some progress on the go, as it doesn't turn back on, and the problem is software based, as it works on other OS's
[12:22] <Powerbook`> Does anyone know *about* how long it takes for shipit to deliever to the us, it already shipped
[12:22] <xbehave2> ive installed dosbox via the package management system, but i cant find the readme
[12:23] <tgelter> Powerbook` it took them about 5 weeks to get me CDs that shipped from France
[12:23] <sethk> covOPprometheus, incorrect deduction.  the other OSes, the ones that work, are programmed to interact properly with the switch.  linux is not programmed to interact with the switch at all.
[12:24] <covOPprometheus> sethk, so you say, there is no solution to the problem?
[12:24] <stinkball> Can i access my shared folders on my windows system using ubuntu (with samba).  I have samba installed and configured according to ubuntuguide.org, but nothing seems to be working
[12:24] <kaolti> nozoroo: in firestarter at the events i see a lot of blocked connections on port 53664, samba, http.70% port 53664. what are these ppl scanning for?
[12:24] <sethk> covOPprometheus, no simple one.  I would imagine that a kernel patch to fix it is fairly easy.  Did you google for one, see if someone has already solved the problem?
[12:24] <Blissex> stinkball: Samba does the _opposite_. Look at the CIFS filesystem.
[12:25] <stinkball> samba shares folders with windows?
[12:25] <Powerbook`> Does anyone know *about* how long it takes for shipit to deliever to the us, it already shipped?
[12:25] <mad_man> <--thinking, thinking, smoke rises slowly and forums a dark cloud in the sky
[12:25] <ikonia> do any of you have a working twinview/xinerama config I could look at within ubuntu
[12:26] <nozorro> kaolti: scanning for buggy windows systems. don't worry too much about this. worry about your connections and the ports the're using :-)
[12:26] <covOPprometheus> sethk, I did, but I haven't found anything so far, but kernel upgrade might help me searching
[12:26] <xbehave2> yes
[12:26] <reitzell> I have a working twinview setup
[12:26] <sethk> covOPprometheus, I don't see how.
[12:26] <ikonia> could you pastebin it please
[12:26] <nozorro> kaolti: ... and don't open an outside port on the firewall unless you must
[12:27] <reitzell> what does pastebin mean?
[12:27] <covOPprometheus> sethk, it's hard to find something if you don't know what to look for ;)
[12:27] <kaolti> nozoroo: im not worrying im just curios. couldnt find anythin on the net about that port
[12:27] <ikonia> put the configuration into the pastebin
[12:27] <ikonia> pastebin?
[12:27] <ikonia> !pastebin
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:27] <_azrael> !paste > ikonia
[12:27] <docgnome> I really could use some help trying to configure dansguardian with tinyproxy and ipkungfu. dansguardian is running on port 8080 but it seems to be being bypased by ipkungfu, even through ipkungfu says it is redirecting traffic from 80 to 8080
[12:27] <aum> hi - i'm running from ubuntu livecd, noticing a lot of packages missing when i do apt-cache search, packages which are listed on the ubuntu website (such as python-sqlobject) - do i need to update sources.list to enable full range of packages?
[12:27] <simtower> allo does anyone know what command to use to start xephyr xserver? =)
[12:27] <ikonia> _azrael I know what one is thanks, I was looking for the bot command
[12:29] <nozorro> kaolti: there are so many ports, it's almost useless. read here if you like: http://www.seifried.org/security/ports/
[12:30] <ikonia> can you pastebin your configutration for me please
[12:30] <Lysit> Default gateway, ip and dns are all correct, ubuntu box can still connect to any computer on LAN, but cannot connect to internet. Pinging an IP and address from the internet says filtered by 172.29.5.10, however all my lan addresses are in the 192.168 range
[12:30] <ikonia> mines borking
[12:30] <krazykit> hooray!  kernel-2.6.18-rc6-ck1!
[12:30] <numael> i talk spanish
[12:31] <nozorro> !es
[12:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:31] <reitzell> ikonia , I'm trying to send you my xorg.conf file
[12:31] <ikonia> thanks
[12:31] <reitzell> doesn't look like you're taking it
[12:31] <ikonia> I'm not reciving a dcc request
[12:32] <nozorro> kaolti: any other quick questions before i go surfin'?
[12:32] <reitzell> sending it again
[12:33] <kaolti> nozoroo: :) nah thats enough for now.thanks
[12:33] <eugman> Is there a specific chanel to talk about the wiki or would this be the place to do it in?
[12:33] <Lysit> Anyone any idea whats up with my ubuntu box?
[12:33] <CorpseFeeder> someone remind me.. how do I use the chmod command to change a file's read only attribute to write?
[12:33] <nozorro> kaolti: ok, bye
[12:33] <kaolti> nozoroo: bye
[12:33] <sethk> Lysit, things are going to your default destination, then arriving at the 172 box
[12:33] <Xcalibur> i am running kubuntu, and noone in the other chanel is helping me, I need to find another wireless connection manager, b/c the default one, it keeps disconecting me...
[12:33] <nozorro> have a nice evening everyone
[12:33] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:33] <reitzell> do you see the dcc request?
[12:33] <ikonia> I'm not reciving dcc requests
[12:34] <brian98> Hello
[12:34] <reitzell> hmmm...
[12:34] <Lysit> sthk I have no 172 box, it doesn't exist
[12:34] <reitzell> How about I e-mail it to you
[12:34] <eugman> CorpseFeeder, as a general tip, typing man before a programs name will bring up the manual page explainging how to use that program.
[12:34] <eugman> so for example you'd type    man chmod
[12:34] <sethk> Lysit, that's nonsense.  I said your default destination is talking to a 172 box.  You don't have to have one.  google.com is 64.233.187.99.  does that mean you can't talk to it because you don't have a 64. box?
[12:35] <aum> hi - how come synaptic only shows 4425 packages when i run from the livecd - do i need to add another apt source?
[12:35] <Lysit> Then why is it stopping at 172 then?
[12:35] <brian98> anyone help with this? xchat and skype and other programs when minimized used to appear on my panel.. Now they appear as tiny desktop windows and I can't for the life of me see whats changed.. I've restared x and it's still the same. I haven't changed anything. Is there something that should be on the panel that I am missing. It's quite annoying :)
[12:35] <brian98> panel at the top that is
[12:35] <sethk> Lysit, because that's how the 172 box is configured.
[12:36] <Lysit> all my other 3 computers are fine
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, indeed.  so?
[12:36] <eugman> It's still not very good but if anyone would care to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop I'd appreciate any help.
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, you are looking in all the wrong places.
[12:36] <shut-> whats a good irc
[12:36] <shut-> program
[12:36] <Lysit> Where should I be looking?
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, do a traceroute from one of the working machine, then from the box that isn't working, and see what the difference is.
[12:36] <brian98> xshut: xchat
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, display the routes on a working box and the ubuntu box.
[12:36] <fatbrain> Can I change the text rendered on my monitor to be anti-aliased?
[12:36] <shut-> huh
[12:36] <brian98> shut: even xchat
[12:37] <shut-> yes but i cant find a download that works
[12:37] <shut-> i get an error
[12:37] <brian98> sudo apt-get install xchat from a terminal window
[12:37] <Xcalibur> is there another wireless connection manager out there for linux, besides wlassistant?
[12:37] <factotum> gah, im bored. Girlfriend just started her new job today so I dont have anyone around to laugh at me when i try to config something
[12:37] <shut-> k
[12:37] <sethk> factotum, we'll laugh at you
[12:37] <factotum> so i come to you, the people of the channel
[12:37] <factotum> haha exactly
[12:38] <M_A_K> I am a linux beginner and need assistance with my usb flash drive.  I used to connect the drive and it would show up in my KDE taskbar (excuse the windoism) in the "Storage Devices" pannel/applet.  For some reason it is not showing up there anymore.  I really do not want to use the terminal to mount it manually every time I need it.
[12:38] <aum> is there anyone here who's made the switch from debian to ubuntu? if so, what differences have you seen?
[12:38] <simtower> doesnt work as good
[12:38] <factotum> well it might be a big barrel of laughs, im thinking of compiling myself a kernel from source to see if I can do it
[12:38] <Lysit> tracert on win box (this one) hits 17 hops, none start with 172, ubuntu box gives 0 hops, just hangs until ctrl-alt-c
[12:38] <M_A_K> All that shows up are my internal HD and my CDRW
[12:39] <aefkei> Hey'a. First try at Ubuntu, after Gentoo Man this is cheeeeeesecake ! Luvit. I have a problem with gnome comfiguring shortcuts though : I'd like to affect Alt+h to "Move to the desktop on the left", but when I type it into the configuration menu, it pops up the help. Has anyone had this kind of problem ? Should I rather go but the guys at #gnome-soopid-questions ?
[12:39] <simtower> hehe you came from gentoo
[12:39] <aefkei> s/but/bug/
[12:39] <Xcalibur> well, can somone plz listen to me for just 1 single second, I don't mean to be rude, but I have been ignored?
[12:39] <sethk> Lysit, of course none start with 172.  you said you have no 172 box.  how could a route start with 172?
[12:39] <eugman> !patience
[12:39] <aefkei> and... where did you come from, simtower ?
[12:39] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:39] <sethk> Lysit, I said to look at the _default_ route
[12:39] <aSt3raL_> how can i make a file executable by the webserver?
[12:40] <simtower> aefkei, gentoo ;)
[12:40] <sethk> Lysit, why don't you run route -n, capture the output, and put it on the paste site.
[12:40] <aSt3raL_> that is user: www-data
[12:40] <rub> how to know which ISP is providing this address 63.253.2.196
[12:40] <sethk> rub, use the whois command
[12:40] <Lysit> Sethk, you've started speaking spanish/german/whatever, how does this help me? I don't know much about linux
[12:40] <Xcalibur> well, im sorry to be mean, but can somone link me to a wireless connection manager instead of wlassistan?
[12:40] <factotum> just do a whois
[12:41] <factotum> doh, beat me to it
[12:41] <aefkei> woohoo simtower ! I'm not the only one bored by fsck'ing my system each time gcc upgrades !
[12:41] <eugman> Xcalibur, I think so. let me do a quick check.
[12:41] <sethk> Lysit, it helps you because we can look at your routes and tell you what is wrong with them
[12:41] <simtower> aefkei, lol. i gave up after the last gcc upgrade. it was a personal disaster ;)
[12:41] <sethk> Lysit, but you can do whatever you like, of course.
[12:41] <laz0r> ok, another more ubuntu specific question: whats the ubuntu equivalent to debian testing/sid? is there any? is it safe to use (at least as save as in debian) or will it open the door to dependency-hell?
[12:41] <Lysit> so syntax is what? tracerout -n google.com/ip or whatever
[12:42] <brian98> Please help - boo hoo
[12:42] <brian98> :)
[12:42] <aefkei> rofl ! Exactly what tool me here.
[12:42] <sethk> Lysit, to display your routes?   you run     route -n
[12:42] <eugman> Xcalibur, Network-Manager may be what you are looking for but I'm limited in my wireless expierience. Remeber you can always search the package lists or the forums when trying to find the right program.
[12:42] <factotum> laz0r: your using newer than debian testing right now
[12:42] <sethk> Lysit, traceroute is traceroute, not tracerout
[12:42] <simtower> ubuntu is not without its problems but at least its easy to install
[12:42] <aefkei> Xcalibur, do you need a graphical tool ?
[12:42] <sethk> Lysit, but it has nothing to do with the route command, they are different programs
[12:43] <brian98> and traceroute is installed by default iirc
[12:43] <brian98> and traceroute is not installed by default iirc
[12:43] <brian98> I mean
[12:43] <Xcalibur> sure
[12:43] <laz0r> factotum: huh? right now im sitting on a gentoo box
[12:43] <rub> whois command not found sethk
[12:43] <M_A_K> Can anybody assist me with mounting a usb flash drive (ubuntu 6 / KDE)?
[12:43] <sethk> rub, then install it.
[12:43] <factotum> laz0r: ah, thought you meant in regards to ubu
[12:43] <aefkei> Yep simtower, it was hard to give out the nice init system, for instance.
[12:43] <linuchsan> rub:mcleodusa.net
[12:43] <mwe> laz0r: current test version is 6.10. by now it's pretty safe I think. short after a new release the new test version might not even work yet
[12:43] <rub> where download  it
[12:44] <moustafa> Hello
[12:44] <moustafa> I need help please
[12:44] <factotum> laz0r: even in the case of you gentoo box, your probably running newer than deb testing
[12:44] <moustafa> i want to know information about ubuntu
[12:44] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade
[12:44] <brian98> bhrobinson: You got any ideas on this one?
[12:45] <moustafa> Did i can show all my network pc's without password?
[12:45] <aefkei> Xcalibur, knetworkmanager ? for gnome, I guess I'm not competent. Try google+wifi+gtk ?
[12:45] <rub> sethk could you help me? to obtain whois 63.253.2.196
[12:45] <moustafa> Did i can enter any network pc without user name & password?
[12:46] <moustafa> How can i spy my network place?
[12:46] <sethk> rub, sure, I'll have to install it, which takes about 20 seconds, so hold on
[12:46] <sethk> rub, I'll put it on the paste site for you.
[12:46] <yacine> Hi all!
[12:46] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade
[12:46] <D00B3Y> ^^ please
[12:47] <laz0r> factotum: yes, yes, but i have a ubuntu box, dapper 6.06, ive got a problem with ndiswrapper (i need to build the modules package via dpkg-buildpackage) to use with a vanilla kernel, and when i try to install that package i built, it complains about a dependencies, blah blah >=1.8-1 needed 1.8-0ubuntu installed, so, would this my debian boy, i just would have looked if i could install a newer version of the needed package
[12:47] <ikonia> I can't get my nvidia card to display my monitor at my maximum resolution
[12:47] <Max_-> ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu comes with kde, right?
[12:47] <ikonia> the wiki's got some good tips, but nothing thats working
[12:47] <djohnny71> got the same problem as ikonia;
[12:47] <moustafa> i need help please
[12:47] <mad_man> i found this command give me a lot of info about the hdd/s: df -T -h
[12:47] <moustafa> i want to spy my network place
[12:47] <laz0r> factotum: and thats why i want to use testing in ubuntu
[12:47] <ikonia> djohnny71 what card/monitor ?
[12:47] <moustafa> How?
[12:47] <D00B3Y> ikonia: sudo gedit /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[12:47] <djohnny71> i tried to install the drivers from nvidia, they installed but i cant get the res higher :-(
[12:47] <sethk> rub, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22779
[12:47] <moustafa> by using ubuntu
[12:47] <ikonia> D00B3Y done it
[12:47] <sethk> rub, you could have done it yourself a lot faster
[12:47] <ikonia> the config looks fine
[12:47] <mikearthur> I've probably cocked up, but if fetchmail downloads emails and fails to relay them, where have they gone?
[12:47] <djohnny71> geforce2 Mx400@ikonia
[12:47] <D00B3Y> ikonia: edit the section "modes"
[12:47] <yacine> I am using ubuntu 6.06 and I pressed shift key several times and my keyboard is now locked. How can I unlock it?
[12:48] <ikonia> D00B3Y done it !
[12:48] <djohnny71> ikonia pvt plz
[12:48] <yacine> Any help is appreciated
[12:48] <ikonia> got the correct modes
[12:48] <ikonia> djohnny71 sure
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ikonia: put "1280x1024" in front of ALL of them
[12:48] <ikonia> D00B3Y done it
[12:48] <brian98> xchat and skype and other programs when minimized used to appear on my top panel in the right.. Now they appear as tiny desktop windows and I can't for the life of me see whats changed.. I've restared x and it's still the same. I haven't changed anything. Is there something that should be on the panel that I am missing. It's quite annoying :)
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ikonia: make sure default is set to 24
[12:48] <ikonia> done it
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ikonia: then restart X : ctrl alt X
[12:48] <factotum> dependencies for the module package you created?
[12:48] <D00B3Y> i mean
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ctrl alt backspace
[12:48] <ikonia> done it
[12:48] <laz0r> mwe: what should i put in sources.list? deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ testing main restricted?
[12:48] <ikonia> comes up at a lower resolution
[12:48] <shut-> hello
[12:49] <D00B3Y> whats your resoultuon? 1600x1200?
[12:49] <gubluntu> anyone have a guide for xgl/compiz + xinerama?
[12:49] <moustafa> Who can laern me about hacking by using ubuntu?
[12:49] <linuchsan> sethk:or couldn't read
[12:49] <djohnny71> aaaarghs forget it , im not registered ^^ so no pms... @ikonia
[12:49] <D00B3Y> can anyone help me with cgwd?
[12:49] <ikonia> I want it at 1280x1024
[12:49] <sethk> linuchsan, what?
[12:49] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade
[12:49] <shut-> amsn on ubuntu
[12:49] <ikonia> but its coming in at 1024x786
[12:49] <dash_> perhaps it is smarter than me, but Ubuntu 6.06 has Opera built-in?
[12:49] <djohnny71> so what did u install?
[12:49] <mwe> laz0r: no. it's etch I think. go ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:49] <yacine> Please... Any help to unlock keyboard?
[12:49] <laz0r> ok, just doing s/dapper/testing didnt work
[12:49] <linuchsan> sethk:the lookup was posted
[12:50] <D00B3Y> ikonia: try system>preferences> resolution
[12:50] <djohnny71> Yeah thats the highest even iget...
[12:50] <sethk> linuchsan, well, only the first line of it, but ok
[12:50] <Max_-> ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu comes with kde, right??
[12:50] <D00B3Y> and make sure that your refresh rates are set right
[12:50] <laz0r> mwe: ok
[12:50] <ikonia> djohnny71 nvidia-glx nvidia0-glx-dev and the correct restricted modules
[12:50] <gubluntu> max_, yup
[12:50] <ikonia> D00B3Y it looks fine
[12:50] <sethk> linuchsan, and that line isn't the actual owner.
[12:50] <Max_-> thx
[12:50] <linuchsan> sethk:he asked for the isp
[12:50] <DJGummikuh> asdas
[12:50] <DJGummikuh> aah NOW it works again
[12:50] <D00B3Y> are you sure your nvidia drivers  are loading?
[12:50] <D00B3Y> try modprobe nvidia
[12:50] <ompaul> ikonia, have you seen the "fixresolution" web page?
[12:50] <djohnny71> mmmh okay, should try this 2morrow...
[12:51] <moustafa> i want to know important information please , did the ubuntu effect with windows viruss?
[12:51] <ikonia> lsmod shows it as loaded
[12:51] <sethk> linuchsan, so?  I paste the whois output to the paste site.  is that a problem ?
[12:51] <djohnny71> url?@ompaul?
[12:51] <ikonia> ompaul looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:51] <ompaul> ikonia, that is the one
[12:51] <ikonia> wiki's got some good tips, but nothing seems to be working
[12:51] <djohnny71> sorry im a total n00b in Linux :-/
[12:51] <House> how do I mount a fat32 drive on the live cd?
[12:51] <dash_> perhaps it is smarter than me, but Ubuntu 6.06 has Opera built-in?
[12:51] <sethk> House, mount -t vfat
[12:51] <moustafa> Did i must install unti virus for my ubunyu?
[12:51] <ikonia> dash_ could you please stop repeating that
[12:51] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade !!!
[12:52] <factotum> dash_: nope
[12:52] <D00B3Y> im on xgl
[12:52] <sethk> dash_, has nothing "built in".  I believe opera is in a repository somewhere but isn't part of the default repository list
[12:52] <djohnny71> aaarghs didnt use IRC for a very long time...
[12:52] <moustafa> i am talking with my self!!!!!!1
[12:52] <dash_> I just didn't see it in the repositories
[12:52] <djohnny71> gonna keep on 2morrow :-/ Gotta get some sl33p, c y@ll
[12:52] <moustafa> i want to know important information please , did the ubuntu effect with windows viruss?
[12:52] <gubluntu> D00B3Y, come to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:52] <moustafa> Did i must install unti virus for my ubunyu?
[12:52] <moustafa> i want to know important information please , did the ubuntu effect with windows viruss?
[12:52] <moustafa> Did i must install unti virus for my ubunyu?
[12:52] <sethk> dash_, it isn't there.  google for it, you can find the repository to add
[12:52] <ikonia> moustafa STOP FLOODING THE CHANNEL
[12:53] <djohnny71> good night
[12:53] <moustafa> ok
[12:53] <Telroth|School> no moustafa
[12:53] <moustafa> i need answer
[12:53] <moustafa> thank you
[12:53] <ompaul> !enter
[12:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:53] <factotum> moustafa: probably not, if its an .exe it would probably be sitting there thinking "where the hell am i?"
[12:53] <swinchen> So I have a .deb file that I want to install, but it has dependencies...  what do I need to do so it will automatically install the dependencies?
[12:54] <ompaul> swinchen, where did you get this deb and what is it?
[12:54] <yacine> Any help to unlock keyboard? pleeese!
[12:54] <stinkball> I can access my windows shares in ubuntu, but i don't know how to mount them, can someone help me?
[12:54] <brian98> yacine: What's happened
[12:54] <swinchen> ompaul, it is firstclass, I got it from centrinity.com
[12:54] <ompaul> swinchen, it is not a great idea to install random debs on a machine
[12:54] <sethk> stinkball, mount -t smbfs .....
[12:54] <swinchen> ompaul, it isn't random.  It is one package that I need.
[12:55] <yacine> Hi Brian! I presed shift several times and my keyboard got locked. I want to unlockk it
[12:55] <yacine> Any idea?
[12:55] <moustafa> i need a friend
[12:55] <moustafa> stay with me
[12:55] <stinkball> sethk: i've gotten that far, but what do i put after that?
[12:55] <moustafa> to teach me more about ubuntu
[12:55] <moustafa> Who can be my Teacher?
[12:56] <swinchen> Depends: libqt3-mt   <---  I know I could install this manually... is there a way to have it installed automatically for me though?
[12:56] <moustafa> Did i can enter any network pc without user name & password?
[12:56] <sethk> stinkball, I can't tell you that because the name is constructed using the windows machine name (or ip) and share name
[12:56] <juanfe> hello all
[12:57] <moustafa> Hello
[12:57] <someusernoob> hi
[12:57] <juanfe> in dapper the cd-rw don't work
[12:57] <FrogstarScout> hey guys
[12:57] <yacine> Brian98: I can't use my keybord under Ubuntu, it's locked. No output!
[12:58] <moustafa> oooops
[12:58] <Lysit> root@NixServer:~# route -n
[12:58] <Lysit> Kernel IP routing table
[12:58] <Lysit> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[12:58] <Lysit> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[12:58] <Lysit> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[12:58] <ompaul> swinchen, well I hope it was built for your version >>   dpkg -i pacakge.deb <<
[12:58] <brian98> even after restart?
[12:58] <sethk> Lysit, don't paste in the channel.  for more than two lines use the paste web site
[12:58] <brian98> does the mouse work
[12:58] <juanfe> i can't erase a rewritable cd
[12:58] <yacine> Brian98 Yes
[12:58] <FrogstarScout> i was having trouble with an old sound card that turned out to be a bit damaged i think so i bought a new one
[12:58] <stinkball> sethk: i didn't mean name, i know the name of my windows share and machine, i meant command wise
[12:58] <sethk> Lysit, ok, you have a default route to 192.168.1.1, which is presumably your gateway
[12:58] <FrogstarScout> it's a Sound Blaster Live!
[12:58] <yacine> Brian98 It saved the setting I guess
[12:58] <Lysit> correct
[12:59] <brian98> if you hit alt F1 do you get a terminal
[12:59] <FrogstarScout> but it's not recognized
[12:59] <brian98> alt f7 to get back to gui
[12:59] <sethk> stinkball, mount -t smbfs windows_machine:windows_share_name  /some/local/mount/point
[12:59] <FrogstarScout> lspci tells me: VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
[12:59] <sethk> stinkball, some_local_mount_point can be any empty directory
[12:59] <brian98> ctrl-alt f1
[12:59] <brian98> I mean
[12:59] <sethk> stinkball, use sudo with mount, if you are not root
[12:59] <M_A_K> I just tried to connect my usb flash drive using gnome and an error popped up about not being able to initialize HAL.  Can I reinstall  the HAL?
[12:59] <yacine> Brian98 I could get terminal by using the mouse.
[12:59] <FrogstarScout> any modules i should load to make this thing work?
[12:59] <brian98> can you try that
[12:59] <brian98> ctrl-alt f1
[12:59] <ChaosFan> wg 31
[12:59] <stinkball> sethk: okay, let me try that
[01:00] <aum> about to install ubuntu - on a clear 300GB disk, i can see forever
[01:00] <yacine> Brian98 Well I have to reboot my computer... Let me try it.
[01:00] <yacine> Brain98: Thaks for your help
[01:00] <brian98> I just wanna know if it's an input thing in x
[01:00] <mcphail> aum: my ubuntu install is now spilling over onto my 2nd 250G SATA
[01:00] <sethk> Lysit, now, can you ping your dns server?  look for the IP address of your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:01] <yacine> Bye all!
[01:01] <Lysit> DNS server is also 192.168.1.1 (or so both windows box's think), and yes it pings that fine
[01:01] <TylerDurdener> how can i install contents from a tar file as root?
[01:01] <brian98> xchat and skype and other programs when minimized used to appear on my top panel in the right.. Now they appear as tiny desktop windows and I can't for the life of me see whats changed.. I've restared x and it's still the same. I haven't changed anything. Is there something that should be on the panel that I am missing. It's quite annoying :)
[01:02] <snacks> hello guys, i have i question about setting up my wireless...can someone help me with my problems?
[01:02] <sethk> Lysit, the only ip address in /etc/resolv.conf is 192.168.1.1 ?
[01:02] <Max_-> Gnome or KDE???  That is the question!
[01:02] <Lysit> 1 sec
[01:02] <lupine_85> Max: KDE, obviously :)
[01:02] <aum> where's the best place to stick the swap on a 300GB disk, for minimum speed penalty?
[01:02] <lupine_85> where's the question?
[01:02] <shut-> where can i find all packages
[01:02] <shut-> ?
[01:03] <stinkball> sethk: thanks, that worked :-)
[01:03] <lupine_85> aum: the outside of the platters are faster than the inside...
[01:03] <rixxon> can i set a default width/height for the gnome-terminal ?
[01:03] <lupine_85> ...translating that to the cylinders given is pretty much impossible
[01:03] <aum> lupine_85: how do i know where the outside of the platters are?
[01:03] <lupine_85> aum: you can't
[01:03] <Max_-> 2 for KDE, 0 for Gnome
[01:03] <lupine_85> especially with LBA, etcetera in the way
[01:04] <snacks> has anybody gotten a Netgear WG121 wireless adapter to work?
[01:04] <aum> lupine_85: is there a speed difference if i stick the swap early in the 300GB, in the middle or at the end?
[01:04] <Lysit> ---   /etc/resolv.conf has 1 line stating      nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:04] <lupine_85> aum: depends completely on the hard drive model. Probably not worth bothering with though
[01:04] <mcphail> aum: i'd imagine you won't be using swap much anyway
[01:04] <TylerDurdener> anyone? how can i install contents from tar packages into a restricted folder? theres no where i can say "sudo" or anything
[01:04] <aum> i need swap, i only got 1GB RAM
[01:04] <lupine_85> Lysit: assuming your rotuer is 192.168.1.1, that's fine
[01:04] <lupine_85> aum: I've got 512MB
[01:05] <sethk> Lysit, ok.  what are you doing that get's that message about a 172 machine?
[01:05] <mcphail> aum: my laptop doesn't swap with 512MB
[01:05] <lupine_85> ah :)
[01:05] <lupine_85> that would make a difference!
[01:05] <mcphail> aum: you still shouldn't be swapping
[01:05] <aum> is a /boot partition worth it?
[01:05] <b14ck73425> hey does anyone know anything about the through the looking glass project
[01:05] <sethk> aum, no
[01:05] <mcphail> aum: nope
[01:05] <aefkei> out. See ya.
[01:06] <sethk> mcphail, aum, if he is editing several photos, each 400 mb. why wouldn't he be swapping?
[01:06] <mcphail> aum: unless you are using raid/lvm or something
[01:06] <aum> naah, just a straight IDE 300GB
[01:06] <sethk> aum, then a separate boot partition doesn't really buy you anything
[01:06] <lupine_85> snacks: http://www.bentoll.com/~rjdohnert/linapps.html suggests ndiswrapper
[01:07] <snacks> will that work for dapper?
[01:07] <mcphail> sethk: i suppose if he was editing _several_ 400MB monsters!
[01:07] <lupine_85> don't suppose you could output the contents of lsusb (or lspci -n and lspci, if appropriate)
[01:07] <hippy> some1 help with mem=nopentium line...read on a post that amd machines freeze (like mine is doing) and the fix is to enter mem=nopentium into /boot/grub/menu.lst  ...when i tried it said i didn't have permissions to save that read only file help pls
[01:07] <TylerDurdener> someone please... how can i install .tar contents into a folder im restricted to? is there a way to tell it im sudo?
[01:07] <lupine_85> snacks: probably, with a bit of messing around
[01:07] <lupine_85> !ndiswrapper
[01:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:07] <lupine_85> it's in the repos
[01:07] <sethk> Lysit, I have to walk my dog for a bit, I'll be back in a bit.  we'll continue then if you are still having a problem.
[01:07] <sethk> TylerDurdener, sudo tar x....
[01:08] <lupine_85> version 1.8 or so (latest version is 1.23)
[01:08] <Lysit> sethk: Its not decided to work somewhat, enter the ip of google into firefox, it loads google, enter google.com or any other into firefox, it refuses connection, ping google.com 8/10 packets recieved.
[01:08] <aum> hmm, maybe then 30GB for /, 150GB for /home, 150GB for /backup
[01:08] <dash_> how do you add a skin to opera in Ubuntu?
[01:08] <TylerDurdener> sethk is there a way to already set it as its open? i have a .tar package open and i just want to extract it without exiting it
[01:08] <lupine_85> not a great deal of point having /backup on the same physical drive, TBH
[01:08] <snacks> lupine: ya, i have used ndiswrapper, but it says that i have an "incorrect driver"
[01:08] <sethk> TylerDurdener, no.
[01:09] <aum> well, then, maybe 50GB for /, 250 for /home
[01:09] <lupine_85> snacks: then try a more recent driver, or a more recent version of ndiswrapper
[01:09] <House> how can i transfer files from ubuntu across a crossover cable onto my mac os x?
[01:09] <mcphail> aum: that's 330GB
[01:09] <aum> 50 + 250 == 300
[01:09] <lupine_85> if you compile your own, then you can get ndiswrapper version 1.23
[01:09] <snacks> lupine: well, i'm sorta having problems installing ndiswrapper
[01:09] <mcphail> aum: 30 +150 +150 == 300 :)
[01:10] <mcphail> 330
[01:10] <mcphail> :(
[01:10] <House> how can i transfer files from ubuntu across a crossover cable onto my mac os x?
[01:10] <lupine_85> mcphail: the 30 no longer there
[01:10] <sethk> House, probably sftp is the simplest way
[01:10] <lupine_85> House: with a bit of faffing around
[01:10] <mcphail> aum: why separate /home?
[01:10] <TylerDurdener> sethk sudo tar x doesnt work, it simply freezes my terminal
[01:10] <lupine_85> mcphail: is good in case you need to reinstall the OS for whatever reason
[01:10] <sethk> TylerDurdener, that's only the beginning of the command
[01:10] <snacks> lupine: i mean that i installed it, but i don't know how to connect to the internet with linux...i just recently installed ubuntu
[01:10] <aum> mcphail: so if i do a clean os install, i can keep /home
[01:10] <sethk> TylerDurdener, if you give me the name of the tar file I'll give you the full command
[01:11] <House> i cant get ubuntu to see any of the shares
[01:11] <mcphail> aum: never really works, though, does it?
[01:11] <lupine_85> snacks: ah. Have you managed to get it to take your driver?
[01:11] <DukeDave> Hey gang, any reports of trouble with Rhythmbox going uninterruptable ?
[01:11] <rc55> Hi - is there any way I can automate software updates to run hourly?
[01:11] <TylerDurdener> sethk the package name is Test.tar.bz2
[01:11] <mcphail> aum: too many orphaned config files
[01:11] <linuchsan> rc55:man crontab
[01:11] <lupine_85> mcphail: I've got a separate /home that I shared between 4 different linux distros at oen point
[01:11] <lupine_85> worked fine
[01:11] <snacks> lupine: what do you mean by "take"?
[01:11] <sethk> TylerDurdener, then (extracting to the current directory):  sudo tar xvjf Test.tar.bz2
[01:11] <lupine_85> "load"
[01:11] <mcphail> lupine_85: i tried it, but had nothing but bother
[01:11] <TylerDurdener> sethk what would the command be to extract it to a different directory?
[01:12] <aum> well, then - maybe 296GB for /home, 4GB for swap?
[01:12] <lupine_85> depends on how you set it all up, I guess :)
[01:12] <mcphail> aum: that would keep it simple
[01:12] <snacks> lupine: i have heard that i can just blacklist some drivers with ndiswrapper
[01:12] <lupine_85> my /home has been through Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Gentoo and SuSE and still works fine
[01:12] <linuchsan> TylerDurdener: -C
[01:12] <sethk> TylerDurdener, if the tarball is in, say, directory /x/y, and you want to extract to /a/b:   cd /a/b; sudo tar xvjf /x/y/Test.tar.bz2
[01:12] <rc55> linuchsan: but doesn't software updates require sudo and manual authentication? how can i get around that?
[01:12] <lupine_85> snacks: depends on whether there's a kernel module (driver) to blacklist
[01:12] <TylerDurdener> thanks sethk
[01:13] <lupine_85> what chipset is the wireless card?
[01:13] <sethk> TylerDurdener, it is going to extract to the current directory, but the tar file can be anywhere
[01:13] <aum> then there's ext3 versus reiser
[01:13] <sethk> TylerDurdener, np
[01:13] <lupine_85> reiserfs, every time
[01:13] <mcphail> ext3!
[01:13] <snacks> lupine: so, how do i check to see if it is working...the lights were already on when i started up ubuntu
[01:13] <lupine_85> reiser :)
[01:13] <mcphail> EXT3!
[01:13] <ChaosFan> xfs
[01:13] <linuchsan> TylerDurdener: -C /to/dir
[01:13] <ChaosFan> ;)
[01:13] <RMorris85> hidden fat16
[01:13] <lupine_85> snacks: run iwconfig and see if there's any devices with wireless extensions listed
[01:13] <lupine_85> why ext3?
[01:13] <lupine_85> it's ext2 with a (dodgy) journal
[01:13] <ChaosFan> because its sane
[01:14] <mcphail> lupine_85: pure, simple reliability
[01:14] <lupine_85> reiserfs 4 (i.e. the current version) is more reliable IME
[01:14] <sethk> lupine_85, ext3 is the most commonly used, and doesn't have the reliability problems that reiserfs has
[01:14] <lupine_85> no reliability problems since version 4
[01:14] <mcphail> lupine_85: very few people would agree
[01:14] <sethk> lupine_85, I've been hearing, for years, "no reliability problems since version 2", "no reliability problems since version 3", ...
[01:15] <darksoule> hello... i need some advice... i want to save my files before i reformat but using the live cd, i cannot get to said files... i crashed vlos (again) and was trying to recover my files through ubuntu... is this even possible anymore?
[01:15] <sethk> aum, that proves nothing.  there are problems.  they don't have to be seen by everyone to be problems.
[01:15] <House> does the live cd have a sftp server?
[01:15] <snacks> lupine: it says that eth2 is working
[01:15] <lupine_85> all I can say is that a series of extended power cuts with ext3 once lost me my entire FS. The same with reiser made no dent at all
[01:15] <billytwowilly> anyone running ubuntu on one of the new macbooks?
[01:15] <snacks> lupine: that is the only one where results show
[01:15] <billytwowilly> do I just use the x86 version of ubunut?
[01:15] <lupine_85> that, and removing the journal every time you want to resize is a bit silly
[01:15] <aum> another topic - is the universe feed generally ok, or is it a seething snake-pit of painful surprises
[01:16] <darksoule> i got the cd in the mail... don't really know what it has...
[01:16] <sethk> aum, generally ok
[01:16] <lupine_85> universe is good :)
[01:16] <snacks> lupine: how do i connect to a network?
[01:16] <Lysit> Ok, seems to be a DNS problem, it'll now ping the google ip, but firefox refuses to load up google using http://google.com, but will googles IP, I've added the DNS my router connects to, however thats not helped (or made things worse)
[01:16] <mcphail> aum: it is reliable
[01:16] <sethk> snacks, I use a cable, but some people use a radio wave
[01:16] <lupine_85> snacks: sudo iwlist <interface> scan
[01:16] <CorpseFeeder> help! I broke my computer. I finished installing the wifi card and now my computer won't boot up at all. I had to physically remove the card from the computer to get it to boot up.
[01:16] <sethk> Lysit, ah, that starts to make sense.
[01:16] <mcphail> aum: just stay away from the compiz repos
[01:16] <snacks> lupine: interface?
[01:16] <lupine_85> that'll give you nearby access points
[01:16] <snacks> okie
[01:16] <lupine_85> the interface of the wireless device
[01:16] <lupine_85> the one you just got from iwconfig :)
[01:16] <sethk> Lysit, if you haven't already, make sure that the router you want is the only one in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:16] <snacks> okie
[01:17] <snacks> and how do i connect if the have WEP?
[01:17] <aum> am i right in the impression that the ubuntu community is now bigger than debian community?
[01:17] <codecaine> hi anybody know how to suppress mouse taps on a touchpad on the laptop?
[01:17] <sethk> aum, I doubt it, but I've seen no hard figures
[01:17] <CromagDK> !dualmonitor
[01:17] <lupine_85> you add the key - sudo iwconfig <interface> key <key>
[01:17] <Lysit> That was how it was set before Sethk, shall put it back and see if its any better
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualmonitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <CorpseFeeder> the computer is just locking up and dieing when it gets to "configuring network interfaces"
[01:17] <linuchsan> Lysit:you can't ping www.google.*
[01:17] <lupine_85> prefix <key> with s: if it's ASCII
[01:17] <aum> 857 in #ubuntu, 581 in #debian
[01:17] <CromagDK> !splitmonitor
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splitmonitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <linuchsan> Lysit:or any site
[01:17] <CromagDK> !monitor
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <moustafa> i need to instal adept
[01:17] <lupine_85> irc - the one true source of statistics :)
[01:17] <CromagDK> !dualscreen
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <sethk> Lysit, ok.  I thought that's what you had said.  are you certain that's the correct thing to use as DNS?  that's unusual (running a dns server in a router.  Not wrong, but unusual)
[01:18] <moustafa> and evry time i install it can't be open
[01:18] <moustafa> why , i don't knwo
[01:18] <lupine_85> I think Debian is pretty static right now, whereas ubuntu is pulling in most of the people new to linux
[01:18] <moustafa> know*
[01:18] <RMorris85> !somepeopledontknowhowtousethisfeature
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about somepeopledontknowhowtousethisfeature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <CromagDK> anyone using 2 monitors ?
[01:18] <FurrySaint> ...
[01:18] <webhed> Hello everyone. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:18] <raindog> Hi.  I'm using Ubuntu Dapper and when I downloaded the deb package for 1.4.5.1 and tried to install it over 1.4.2.2 it won't let me due to version conflicts.  Do I have to entirely remove/uninstall gnupg 1.4.2.2 and all it's dependencies to then install 1.4.5 and it's dependencies??
[01:18] <brian98> CromagDK: what ya wanna know
[01:18] <aum> can gparted resize mounted partitions?
[01:18] <CromagDK> brian98: how to enable with nvidia :)
[01:19] <lupine_85> aum: don't think it would be a good idea
[01:19] <Flyox> Hi
[01:19] <brian98> !nvidia
[01:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:19] <sethk> aum, no.  never try to do any sort of maintenance on a mounted partition.
[01:19] <Lysit> Ok, only DNS is now 192.168.1.1, won't connect using google.com, the win box Im using reports its DNS as 192.168.1.1 however
[01:19] <CromagDK> i did that
[01:19] <lupine_85> it probably "can", but I doubt there'd be much left afterwards
[01:19] <CorpseFeeder> my wifi card won't work :( my puter won't boot anymore with it inside. :(
[01:19] <brian98> one sec...
[01:19] <sethk> aum, and never do resizing on a drive when _any_ of the drive's partitions are mounted.
[01:19] <Dutchy> im using the wireless guide on help.ubuntu.com and at one point i have to use the command sudo lshw -C network.... in the example the output has a line ' logical name: ath0' shouldnt my output have a similar line? if yes, how do i fix that?
[01:19] <CromagDK> brian98: thank you
[01:19] <sethk> lupine_85, well, literally true  :)
[01:19] <Flyox> I have a problem with ATI drivers, fglrxinfo shows MESA stuff but I see no error in Xorg.log (drivers 8.28.8)
[01:19] <lupine_85> you can get away with some things while mounted ro, but repartitioning is not one of them
[01:19] <linuchsan> Lysit:you can't ping www.google.*
[01:20] <Flyox> and I have a bunch of DrmOpenDevice in Xorg.log
[01:20] <Lysit> yes
[01:20] <webhed> Hello everyone. I'm using Dapper + nvidia video card. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:20] <Telroth|School> lysit
[01:20] <brian98> cromagDK. I know with ati you do aticonfig --initial=dual-head
[01:20] <ToHellWithGA> if i want to run a few linux distributions, can they share a /boot partition?
[01:20] <Lysit> pinging google.com works
[01:20] <Telroth|School> set dns to 4.2.2.2
[01:20] <Telroth|School> oh
[01:20] <Telroth|School> well if pinging it works
[01:20] <Telroth|School> then your dns is working
[01:20] <CromagDK> brian98: hmm ok, ill try search for "dual-head"
[01:20] <CromagDK> thnkx
[01:20] <nick58b> CromagDK: man nvidia-xconfig
[01:20] <CromagDK> ah k
[01:21] <linuchsan> Lysit:have you got a proxy set for your brouwser?
[01:21] <sethk> Telroth|School, ping doesn't test dns.  you can ping by ip without any dns at all.
[01:21] <sethk> Telroth|School, to test dns, use the host, or the dig command
[01:21] <nick58b> CromagDK: i think it's called twinview on nvidia
[01:21] <isodude> hey, ehm, alitthle help here.. ff says it has windows open.. and ps ax doesnt show any ff..
[01:21] <CromagDK> oh :)
[01:21] <CorpseFeeder> is there anyway I can get my computer to boot again with the wireless card in it?
[01:21] <Adam_G> sethk, but if pinging google.com works, then the DNS resolved the IP...
[01:21] <CromagDK> !twinview
[01:21] <Telroth|School> sethk, if he's pinging "google.com", then it has to resolve it at some dns :P
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <CromagDK> ;)
[01:21] <lupine_85> CorpseFeeder: can you boot up in recovery mode?
[01:21] <brian98> CromagDK: Let me have a look at the nvidia stuff for a sec....
[01:21] <RMorris85> So there, I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard d
[01:22] <sethk> Adam_G, Telroth|School, true, but while troubleshooting it is best to divide and conquer, and to use commands that are as specific as possible
[01:22] <Dutchy> can anyone read up for my question or shall i repeat it?
[01:22] <isodude> so no processes concerning firefox is running and firefox says it's already running :\
[01:22] <Adam_G> true, true
[01:22] <CorpseFeeder> lupine_85: don't know. please wait. i will stick the card back in and reboot.
[01:22] <brian98> cromagdk: google is your friend http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=nvidia+dualhead+config+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[01:22] <Lysit> So whats next thing to test?
[01:22] <lupine_85> Dutchy: ath0 is for cards run by the madwifi driver
[01:22] <webhed> !xorg
[01:22] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:22] <krazykit> anyone brilliant with installing ati-drivers with a custom kernel?  i keep getting "/bin/sh: ./make.sh: Permission denied"
[01:22] <lupine_85> yours could well be ra0, rausb0, wlan0, even eth1
[01:22] <Adam_G> Just wondering if there's anyone in here who's had success with a grapics tablet under ubuntu...
[01:22] <aum> which is better, reiserfs or reiser4?
[01:22] <Telroth|School> krazykit, are you root?
[01:23] <Dutchy> lupine_85: mine doesnt have a logical name at all
[01:23] <lupine_85> if there's no wireless driver installed, then nothing will show
[01:23] <krazykit> Telroth|School: yep
[01:23] <Telroth|School> aum, reiser4 is better, but isn't tested as much
[01:23] <isodude> ext3 rocks.
[01:23] <sethk> Dutchy, use ifconfig -a.  see if it shows up.  with -a, ifconfig shows all interfaces, not just configured interfaces
[01:23] <snacks> lupine: what if the WEP is 128 key?
[01:23] <webhed> Hello everyone. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:23] <Telroth|School> reiserfs has been tested more
[01:23] <linuchsan> Lysit:wget
[01:23] <sethk> Telroth|School, not better over long term use and in realistic test scenarios.
[01:23] <lupine_85> snacks: in that situation, I have no idea
[01:23] <lupine_85> !wep
[01:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:23] <Dutchy> lupine_85: it doesnt show up
[01:24] <sethk> Telroth|School, one can devise tests that make any fs look "better".
[01:24] <lupine_85> Dutchy: then install the relavant wireless drivers :)
[01:24] <sethk> Telroth|School, google, you'll find interesting data.
[01:24] <Lysit> Resolving www.google.com... 1.0.0.0
[01:24] <Dutchy> configuration: driver=ipw3945 <= makes me think they were installed
[01:24] <TylerDurdener> sethk, still having problems. cd'd to /a/b/ (where i wanted to extract the tar) and did sudo tar xvjf /Desktop/ (where it is) tarname.tar.bz2 and it said Desktop is not a directory, it also said tarname.tar.bz2 wasnt found in archive
[01:24] <Lysit> That don't seem good
[01:24] <Dutchy> i used ndiswrappers for it
[01:24] <linuchsan> Lysit:or lynx
[01:24] <lupine_85> in that case, the module in question should be called ndiswrapper
[01:24] <brian98> Dutchy: was it recognised b4 you used ndiswrapper
[01:25] <lupine_85> blacklist the ipw3945 module, as it'll be conflicting with ndiswrapper
[01:25] <Telroth|School> Lysit, try setting your dns server to 4.2.2.2
[01:25] <aum> so reiser4 could pack a few 'fun surprises' ?
[01:25] <sethk> TylerDurdener, I've never seen a machine with a directory named /Desktop.  you are probably looking for a Desktop subdirectory of your home directory
[01:25] <lupine_85> alternatively, since there's a native driver, you could dump ndiswrapper
[01:25] <Telroth|School> aum, it's possible
[01:25] <sethk> TylerDurdener, try ~/Desktop
[01:25] <yacine> Hi there again!
[01:25] <Telroth|School> i've been using it for a while without problems
[01:25] <Telroth|School> but said surprises are more likely in 4 than 3 (reiserfs = version 3)
[01:25] <brian98> lupine_85: it was acx that was causing me the prob - thats what I had to blacklist
[01:26] <Dutchy> hmmm... difficult stuff
[01:26] <TylerDurdener> sethk ok that fixed that problem, now it still says it can't tarname.tar.bz2 wasn't found in archive
[01:26] <sethk> TylerDurdener, the "not found in archive" message means that it thinks you gave it the name of a file to extract.  that's caused by a syntax error in the command, possibly you put an extra space somewhere
[01:26] <FurrySaint> <_<
[01:26] <FurrySaint> >_>
[01:26] <lupine_85> decisions decisions :)
[01:26] <sethk> TylerDurdener, ok, your command is wrong then.  Paste the command you are using and I'll tell you how to fix it.
[01:26] <CromagDK> thnkx brian98 found that to :)
[01:26] <TylerDurdener>  sudo tar xvjf ~/Desktop tarname.tar.bz2
[01:26] <aum> can gparted resize reiserfs or reiser4 partitions?
[01:26] <lupine_85> aum: it can
[01:26] <dash_> anybody use *.debuntu.org repositories?
[01:26] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, sudo -xjf tarname.tar.bz2 ~/Desktop
[01:26] <sethk> TylerDurdener, sudo tar xvjf ~/Desktop/tarname.tar.bz2
[01:26] <riddlebox> I have a second drive that I setup during the install, but now my users cannot write to it?
[01:26] <Kirby904> hello again guys
[01:27] <lupine_85> (at least, the installer can, and I assume it uses gparted or something like it)
[01:27] <sethk> Telroth|School, hm?  no.
[01:27] <FurrySaint> Question... Can I add Ubuntu to a blank hard drive on my system, and dual boot it and Windows XP?
[01:27] <sethk> TylerDurdener, the tar file name is ~/Desktop/tarname.tar.bz2
[01:27] <lupine_85> riddlebox: is it a windows/fat32 drive?
[01:27] <Telroth|School> sethk, sorry, wasn't quite sure what he wanted
[01:27] <sethk> Telroth|School, k :)
[01:27] <docgnome> does anyone know where dansguardian keeps it's default access denyed page?
[01:27] <riddlebox> reiserfs
[01:27] <mcphail> FurrySaint: yes
[01:27] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, listen to sethk, there's so much text in here it's hard to follow any specific problem
[01:27] <lupine_85> ok, just change the permissions of the mountpoint?
[01:27] <webhed> Hello everyone. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:27] <lupine_85> that should do the trick
[01:27] <sethk> riddlebox, may be a reiserfs glitch.  more probably a file ownership problem.
[01:28] <TylerDurdener> that worked sethk, thanks... i dont understand why i cant set myself as root or temp sudo from the tar GUI though :S
[01:28] <Telroth|School> webhed, check /var/log/X.org.log for errors
[01:28] <FurrySaint> mcphail: Anything special I need to do to do it? Or just the standard install?
[01:28] <sethk> TylerDurdener, the programmers didn't build the capability in.
[01:28] <Telroth|School> webhed, check the default runlevel in /etc/inittab if that doesn't work
[01:28] <Kirby904> Q = Where can i get security programs for my 6.06
[01:28] <lupine_85> TylerDurdener: you can run the GUI as sudo/root...
[01:28] <sethk> TylerDurdener, there isn't really a "why", it's arbitrary.  :)
[01:28] <riddlebox> sethk, how?
[01:28] <lupine_85> ...not generally to be recommended though
[01:28] <sethk> lupine_85, yes, he knows, he wants to change the permissions after launching it.
[01:28] <isodude> hm, someone who could look over my question?! =) ff says it's running but it's not, I've check for gnome-www-browser and firefox processes and the ps ax list.. but I can't find anything merely related to firefox.. please help? ;-)
[01:29] <webhed> telroth: thanks - checking now
[01:29] <mcphail> FurrySaint: just remember that the bootloader needs to go on the primary hard drive (i.e. the winxp drive)
[01:29] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, "sudo ark" loads the GUI tar with root priviledges
[01:29] <Commander-Crowe> !stats
[01:29] <sethk> riddlebox, how it can be a file ownership problem?   do ls -ld /mount/point
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <TylerDurdener> sethk :( im a windows transfer, im used to having it easy hehe. Telroth|School thanks ill use that next time
[01:29] <Commander-Crowe> I'm shocked
[01:29] <Kirby904> Q = Where can i get security programs for my 6.06?
[01:29] <sethk> riddlebox, /mount/point is wherever you mounted the file system.
[01:29] <brian98> cromagdk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56564&highlight=fishing+pole should help
[01:29] <lupine_85> surely a better solution would be to create a relevent group ?
[01:29] <yacin1> Sorry.... Problems of connection
[01:30] <Farrier> Question: Upgrading from breezy to badger following the ubuntu.org FAQ, I get the error from apt-get update: "gzip:stdin:not in gzip format" for [...] /dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz (full output and errors on http://pastebin.co.uk/760 ) - anyone know why?
[01:30] <riddlebox> yeah I know that but I did chmod 755 /media/drive2 and that didnt work
[01:30] <square> guys, could i upgrade to gnome 2.16?
[01:30] <sethk> lupine_85, yes, once you've confirmed the nature of the problem.
[01:30] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, it's a bit of a learning curve, but have you ever wondered why there's no anti-virus software for linux? (or very little of it anyways)
[01:30] <bruenig> square, if you want to compile it yourself I suppose
[01:30] <yacin1> Brian98: thanks for your help!
[01:30] <sethk> riddlebox, you are confusing the mount point with the file permissions
[01:30] <square> would i break anything?
[01:30] <yacin1> I really appreciate it
[01:30] <Kirby904> Q = Where can i get security programs for my 6.06?
[01:30] <FurrySaint> mcphail: Ergh... Last time I did that, Windows hosed itself, and when I reinstalled, it didn't like things and BOY was it a pain sorting things out. >_<
[01:30] <sethk> riddlebox, if the thing is mounted, you need to use chmod -R to get all the files in the tree.
[01:30] <raindog> When booting, before the user/pass screen, my screen looks like static for a split second and then continues just like normal.  I'm using Dapper and it only started doing this after I downloaded all the latest updates.  Any ideas on how to get rid of this annoyance.  I don't want my friends that I'm trying to convert to Ubuntu to see this and think that it is unstable.
[01:30] <brian98> yacinl: did it work?
[01:31] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, 99.9% of security is the user and the user knowing what the computer should and shouldn't be doing.
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, also, get out of the habit of using numbers with chmod.  it's error prone.  use things like   chmod -R a+r /mount/point/.
[01:31] <riddlebox> how do I change the permissions on the mount point?
[01:31] <mcphail> FurrySaint: Be careful :)
[01:31] <Telroth|School> raindog, that's just X loading.
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, you don't usually.  the mount point permissions don't matter
[01:31] <Kirby904> I know Tel, but i am aware that you can get viruses from just being online...
[01:31] <bruenig> no numbers with chmod? but I love chmod numbers
[01:31] <FurrySaint> ...Gee. Thanks. --;
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, you can change the mount point permissions with chmod, like any other directory
[01:31] <mcphail> FurrySaint: the other option would be to install GRUB onto a boot floppy
[01:31] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, not really.
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, when the file system is not mounted, of course
[01:32] <Kirby904> Im just not sure if u can with linux, i never used linux before
[01:32] <dash_> does anybody know anything about debuntu.org ?
[01:32] <lupine_85> Kirby904: there's about two different viruses for linux right now
[01:32] <lupine_85> neither of them are prevalent in the wild
[01:32] <TylerDurdener> Telroth|School actually ark is not a command >.< im using gdebi and sudo gdebi won't work. im also not worried about spyware/viruses :) im pretty savvy with that stuff and know where they lurk so i dont get any on my windows machine
[01:32] <raindog> Telroth|School:  hmm, I've never seen it before on any other Ubuntu install I've had.
[01:32] <Kirby904> oh ok, i never knew that, im new here
[01:32] <lupine_85> exploits are the major problem
[01:32] <yacin1> Brian98: It logged out and with the message to delete /tmp/ .X0-lock
[01:32] <Kirby904> new to linux
[01:32] <Kirby904> =] 
[01:32] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, i think sshd is off by default and apache isn't installed, so you're pretty good
[01:32] <brian98> yacinl: excellent
[01:32] <CorpseFeeder> lupine_85: no.. the computer will not even boot in recovery mode - just locks up dead at "configuring network interfaces"
[01:32] <Kirby904> ya ok =] , but is there a way i can get at least like Firestarter?
[01:33] <Kirby904> i looked on the site and theres no version for 6.06
[01:33] <mcphail> lupine_85: it has been tried. They don't work
[01:33] <Telroth|School> uh, if it's a package try "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[01:33] <yacin1> Brian98: I logged again and disabled all keyboard accessibility features...
[01:33] <lupine_85> CorpseFeeder: ok, I think what you need to do is comment out the details for the card in /etc/network/interfaces then
[01:33] <sethk> walking dog, be back soon ...
[01:33] <lupine_85> mcphail: interesting, thanks
[01:33] <brian98> yacinl: I've been running redhat on servers for a longtime but desktops is quite new to me.. So I understand nix but have been working through all the 'desktop' probs
[01:33] <riddlebox> sethk, I have created a folder on that drive with sudo, then I ran the chmod command you said and still my normal user can not write in there?
[01:33] <lupine_85> presumably they use all manner of  undocumented features :)
[01:33] <Dutchy> lupine_85: i created the blacklist file, what do i need to do use ndiswrapper now? to 'refresh' it so it uses ndiswrapper? (yeah all this stuff is way over my head, ne to all this)
[01:33] <yacin1> Brian98: Here I am back again! using Ubuntu :)
[01:33] <brian98> n1
[01:33] <Kirby904> where do i type that
[01:33] <isodude> is there any firefox pid that one could delete?
[01:34] <Kirby904> lol
[01:34] <Dutchy> new*
[01:34] <FurrySaint> What is GRUB? The bootloader?
[01:34] <bruenig> !grub
[01:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:34] <lupine_85> Dutchy: just "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" then "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" should do the trick
[01:34] <FurrySaint> >_>
[01:34] <FurrySaint> Okies.
[01:34] <mcphail> FurrySaint: yes
[01:34] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, i've maintained a windows xp computer without anti-spyware or anti-virus software for 2 years without getting a virus. it's the user that matters the most when it comes to security ;)
[01:34] <lupine_85> or you could reboot, which is a pain but slightly cleaner
[01:34] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, you type that in a command line
[01:34] <FurrySaint> Groovy.
[01:34] <Kirby904> oh ok ty
[01:35] <bruenig> isodude, pid?
[01:35] <codecaine> anybanybody know how to supress a mouse?
[01:35] <Telroth|School> codecaine, disconnect it?
[01:35] <mcphail> Telroth|School: how do you know you don't have a virus if you haven't run any software???
[01:35] <lupine_85> codecaine: warfarin ?
[01:35] <codecaine> touchpad
[01:35] <webhed> telroth: I dont see anything blazingly obvious in my var/log/xorg... but /etc/inittab shows # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault:
[01:35] <yacin1> Brian98: Thx agian.... So long !
[01:35] <brian98> no worries !!!
[01:35] <webhed> What should it be? like 5 or 4?
[01:35] <nwbreneman> Hi, I just installed Windows XP on a separate partition, and then reinstalled grub. The problem is Windows doesn't appear on the grub menu, and I don't know how to get it back, and can't find a clear answer on the net. Could someone help me please?
[01:35] <Telroth|School> mcmillen, because i watch my process list any my router and i can tell when the internet is being used and shouldn't be or my harddrive is being used and shouldn't be
[01:35] <Kirby904> =o
[01:35] <Telroth|School> mcmillen, stuff like that
[01:35] <brian98> !grub
[01:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:36] <bruenig> nwbreneman, you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <Telroth|School> webhed, mine's set to 2
[01:36] <nwbreneman> I reinstalled grub according to those instructions.
[01:36] <webhed> hm
[01:36] <webhed> ok
[01:36] <krazykit> ugh.  make keeps failing for ati-drivers.
[01:36] <Dutchy> ill try rebooting because the commands didnt do what i meant to do
[01:36] <Telroth|School> webhed, 2 isn't standard for most distros, so i'm looking into it
[01:36] <nwbreneman> Bruenig, what exactly do I put?
[01:36] <mcphail> Telroth|School: what about trojans or rootkits?
[01:36] <webhed> when I reboot it comes to the commandline login prompt
[01:36] <riddlebox> sethk, I have created a folder on that drive with sudo, then I ran the chmod command you said and still my normal user can not write in there?
[01:36] <webhed> thanks telroth
[01:36] <Telroth|School> webhed, what is the default runlevel currently?
[01:37] <bruenig> nwbreneman, what partition is windows on?
[01:37] <nwbreneman> hd0,1 I think. ubuntu is hd0,0
[01:37] <CorpseFeeder> oko - i am looking at the interfaces file in /etc/network... what do I comment out?
[01:37] <webhed> this is what etc/inittab shows:
[01:37] <webhed> # The default runlevel.
[01:37] <webhed> id:2:initdefault:
[01:37] <Lysit> Ok, so etc/resolv.conf is set to 192.168.1.1, direct ip works in browser, google.com and whatever else don't, any ideas, kinda annoying:/
[01:37] <jefersom2004> alguem do Brasil?
[01:37] <Telroth|School> webhed, type "ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm" and tell me if it shows "S99kdm"
[01:37] <brian98> webhed: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56564&highlight=fishing+pole
[01:38] <nwbreneman> bruenig, to be exact, it's hda2
[01:38] <webhed> Telroth: I get nothing from the grep
[01:38] <linuchsan> Lysit:what is your isp dns?
[01:38] <isodude> bruenig: yeah, like normal apps do, create a .pid file so the app knows that it's running already..
[01:38] <shadowhywind> evening (morning) all
[01:38] <webhed> Telroth: can we talk in a different window? its hard to see the conversation with all the other stuff flying by.
[01:38] <isodude> like, /var/run/$app.pid
[01:39] <Lysit> ISP DNS is 62.241.163.200
[01:39] <Lysit> 62.241.162.201
[01:39] <aSt3raL_> anyone know where to find images that can be used for buttons on a media player?
[01:39] <bruenig> nwbreneman, add the following lines "title        XP"   "root          (hd0,1)"     "makeactive"    "chainloader   +1", make sure to return after each set of quotation marks and put the new quoted stuff on a new line
[01:39] <Farrier> Question: "sudo apt-get update" gives me "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" when upgrading from breezy to dapper - any idea why?
[01:39] <nwbreneman> excellent, thank you! I'll be sure to save this for future use!
[01:39] <CorpseFeeder> lupine? what do i comment out... and btw what is the comment character(s) anyway?
[01:39] <webhed> brian98: what is that about
[01:39] <jefersom2004> ninguem sabe portugues
[01:40] <bruenig> !pt
[01:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:40] <moustafa> i need help please
[01:40] <linuchsan> Lysit:echo nameserver 62.241.162.201 >> /etc/resolv.conf
[01:40] <isodude> bohoo, my ff will never run again :o
[01:40] <moustafa> i want to install  Java Virtual Machine  for ubuntu
[01:40] <moustafa> what can i do?
[01:40] <lupine_85> CorpseFeeder: # is the comment character. Comment out everything which isn't to do with lo or your ethernet interfaces (e.g. eth0)
[01:40] <brian98> webhed: Someone having a similar problem to yours I believe
[01:41] <shadowhywind> look at the how-to moustafa, worked like a charm for me
[01:41] <Lysit> Ok done
[01:41] <dionys> can somebody help me with my ati card (fglrx) amd64 ubuntu ?
[01:41] <lupine_85> in all likelihood, all you'll have is "auto <interface>" and "iface <interface> inet dhcp"
[01:41] <brian98> dionsys: whats the problem
[01:41] <dionys> well
[01:41] <Telroth> webhed, you have to register your nickname before you can PM me
[01:41] <FurrySaint> My thanks for the help, people.
[01:41] <Dutchy> lupine_85: now the 'driver: ' part has disappeared completely... does that mean im screwed and that the ndiswrapper drivers dont work?
[01:41] <dionys> I did $ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:42] <moustafa> i need help
[01:42] <dionys> then backuped my xorg.conf
[01:42] <lupine_85> Dutchy: have you installed the Windows driver yet?
[01:42] <brian98> yup
[01:42] <moustafa> i need to install  Java Virtual Machine for my system ubuntu
[01:42] <webhed> Telroth: Ok. I thought I had registered it but I'll do it now.
[01:42] <dionys> changed to fglrx
[01:42] <lupine_85> (e.g. what does ndiswrapper -l say?)
[01:42] <dionys> driver
[01:42] <CorpseFeeder> ok. well i've run out of time now so I'll have to try that later. bye
[01:42] <bruenig> !sun-java5-jdk
[01:42] <dionys> when I press crtl alt backspace it reboots x with a black screen
[01:42] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[01:42] <dionys> :/
[01:42] <Dutchy> lupine_85: netw39x5                driver present, hardware present
[01:43] <lupine_85> ok, so your ndiswrapper should be working
[01:43] <brian98> dionsys: you have backed up xorg
[01:43] <brian98> ?
[01:43] <brian98> .con
[01:43] <brian98> .conf
[01:43] <dionys> ya
[01:43] <lupine_85> do you get any wireless interfaces listed when you run iwconfig ?
[01:43] <dionys> bcuz now im in the vesa mode
[01:43] <webhed> I'm an idiot. Whats the syntax/command to register your nick?
[01:43] <brian98> try aticonfig --initial
[01:43] <dionys> i changed it true recovery mode
[01:44] <dionys> did that allready
[01:44] <lupine_85>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[01:44] <brian98> hrm
[01:44] <lupine_85> I think
[01:44] <Dutchy> lupine_85: it says no wireles extensions
[01:44] <dionys> fglrx mod should b running
[01:44] <dionys> how do I know it is ?
[01:44] <Lysit> Ahah, Secondary ISP DNS seems to have done it
[01:44] <lupine_85> Dutchy: seems like ndiswrapper is misbehaving then
[01:45] <_JuDgEn_> gnite everyone
[01:45] <_JuDgEn_> 01:45 here =)
[01:45] <lupine_85> you might want to try blacklisting ndiswrapper and having a go with the native driver
[01:45] <dannyr> hi, How can I set up .spamassiassin directory and auto-whitelist  bayes_seen  bayes_toks  user_prefs in the etc/skel directory - I have searched until I have turned blue<g>
[01:45] <merch> webhed, you can do /msg nickserv help for list of commands.
[01:45] <Dutchy> ok
[01:45] <Splinter> be sure that you typed
[01:45] <brian98> dionsys: brian@brian-linux:~$ modprobe -l | grep fg
[01:45] <w3rdn4> How would anyone here go about making 75k in one year? These rules apply, must be legal, and the one making 75k in a year is a college student who cannot do anything except go to classes, and maybe work 20 hours a week.
[01:45] <Splinter> make uninstall before make install on ndiswrapper
[01:45] <linuchsan> Lysit:than we are all happy
[01:46] <brian98> should see fglrx.ko
[01:46] <lupine_85> w3rdn4: I'd rob a bank. What would you do?
[01:46] <Farrier> w3rdn4: drop out, get a real job? :)
[01:46] <Gunnar> :)
[01:46] <Splinter> make uninstall caused me 3 days of wondering what was wrong with ndiswrapper
[01:46] <lupine_85> (criminals don't have to follow rules!)
[01:46] <vapermonkey00> so i am trying to set up play online viewer and i cant use the net with wine  i am a noob
[01:47] <vapermonkey00> how can do i do that
[01:47] <dionys> brian98, /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-k8/volatile/fglrx.ko
[01:47] <RedRose> ok, so let's say i want to recompile the ACPI module for the kernel, can anyone tell me how to do that?
[01:47] <dionys> thats good ..
[01:47] <w3rdn4> lupine_85, I have multiple ideas A) make a christian book called ,"Jesus and ME" B) Make an album get 50k of myspace friends and make a world debute to sell the album for 10 bucks a piece C) Do 375 dj gigs @ 200 bucks a piece
[01:47] <brian98> it's loaded ok
[01:47] <mcphail> !offtopic
[01:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:47] <brian98> dionsys: when you get a black screen is the monitor in standby or is a black screen
[01:47] <brian98> excuse the stupid question
[01:48] <Bobby> hello
[01:48] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: Just find something that appeals to the slashdot crowd, can't be hard.
[01:48] <dionys> black screen
[01:48] <M_A_K> OK, I am racking my brain.  I used to insert my flash drive (usb) and it would automount ont gnome desktop. Now it does not. I booted from Ubuntu 6.0.6 install cd and it automounted.  Can anybody help me?
[01:48] <lupine_85> w3rdn4: go for it then
[01:48] <dionys> not standby
[01:48] <dionys> it flikkers for a sec
[01:48] <dionys> then it stayes the same color
[01:48] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:48] <brian98> you get to a prompt with ctrl-alt f1
[01:48] <brian98> ?
[01:48] <dionys> no
[01:48] <dionys> :(
[01:48] <Juan>  I'm getting information right now, but I need some answers about the instalation. First of all does this linux erase the info that I have in my computer?
[01:48] <dionys> tryed that
[01:48] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, what appeals to the slashdot.com crowd?
[01:48] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:48] <lupine_85> Juan: it can, but doesn't have to
[01:49] <brian98> what card is it?
[01:49] <lupine_85> depends on what you tell it to do :)
[01:49] <Juan> another solution to dual boot
[01:49] <dash_> how do I show active processes again?
[01:49] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: Anything, so long as it appeals to the slashdot crowd :)
[01:49] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:49] <lupine_85> yes, you can dual-boot
[01:49] <quack> yes
[01:49] <Zorlac> Ubuntu won't install on my HD, it says it can't write the partition
[01:49] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, hmmmmmm
[01:49] <RedRose> ok, so let's say i want to recompile the ACPI module for the kernel, can anyone tell me how to do that?
[01:49] <dionys> its an x1900XTX
[01:49] <w3rdn4> maybe I should make a shirt for thinkgeek
[01:49] <Zorlac> Any way to cleann format my hd so it can?
[01:49] <Juan> any info???
[01:49] <brian98> dionsys: if you remove the ati driver will it boot with the standard driver
[01:49] <lupine_85> redrose: download and install the kernel source, and go from there
[01:49] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: If you must do music, try inserting 'C64' into the song, or sell it with "cool blue lights" in the packaging.
[01:49] <krazykit> so, um.  where should /lib/modules/(version)/build link to?
[01:49] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: In ogg format, of course.
[01:50] <lupine_85> krazykit: /usr/src/relevent-directory
[01:50] <Bobby> hello
[01:50] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:50] <dionys> ? what you mean brian98 change is back to vesa ?
[01:50] <dionys> or ?
[01:50] <lupine_85> usually /usr/src/linux-headers`uname -r`
[01:50] <brian98> yeah, did you get x then?
[01:50] <dionys> ya
[01:50] <dionys> np's
[01:50] <mortal5> how would i remove software, and it's deps, given that they're not being used by other programs
[01:50] <krazykit> lupine_85: thanks
[01:50] <dionys> im on vesa atm
[01:50] <lupine_85> erm, linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:50] <brian98> ok ok
[01:50] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, commoder 64
[01:51] <lupine_85> bah, VIC20 rocks! :D
[01:51] <Flyoc> anybody has ATI drivers 8.28.8 working with dapper ?
[01:51] <brian98> you used apt-get to get the drivers or ... ?
[01:51] <lupine_85> won't run linux though :(
[01:51] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:51] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: Comodore 64, spell it properly!
[01:51] <Dhjiz> wow i discoverd something great
[01:51] <Dhjiz> (hello :D)
[01:51] <brian98> do share
[01:51] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, where can I emulate the sounds of that wild beast of a machine?
[01:51] <Dhjiz> i can launch two session, one in gnome and one in kde at the same time :D
[01:51] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: Ohh, I think you're onto something.
[01:52] <Dhjiz> (and the gnome one has xgl)
[01:52] <Zorlac> Anyone know why ubuntu can't write to my hard drive?
[01:52] <lupine_85> Zorlac: is it ntfs?
[01:52] <bbrazil> mortal5: see deborphan
[01:52] <brian98> Commodore 64
[01:52] <Zorlac> lupine_85: it can't write partitions.
[01:52] <lupine_85> C=64
[01:52] <Arafangion> brian98: Thanks :)
[01:52] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:52] <mortal5> bbrazil: ty
[01:52] <lupine_85> is it mounted?
[01:52] <Juan> lupine, in the instalation progress, It let you choose to where I need to save the files? Also, can Ubuntu make a partition of the hard drive without delete the information?
[01:52] <lupine_85> (daft question, I know)
[01:52] <Zorlac> well, i'm mnot too sure on that.
[01:52] <dionys> brian98,  I used this line exactly sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:53] <Zorlac> But i'd assume the ubuntu installer would try to mount the hd when installing.
[01:53] <Dutchy> lupine_85: now it says configuration: driver=ipw3945 again but still no logical address and iwconfig doesnt show it either
[01:53] <Bobby> how can i reach some one who can help me figure this out ?
[01:53] <lupine_85> Juan: it can resize partitions (although I'm not sure if it can do so with ntfs - maybe someone else can clarify)
[01:53] <krazykit> hum
[01:53] <CromagDK> brian98: thnkx it worked :)
[01:53] <krazykit> maybe ati-drivers just don't work with 2.6.18-rc6 :-(
[01:53] <CromagDK> only refreshrate different
[01:53] <Zorlac> My hard drive had paritions, but fdisk doesn't show them.
[01:53] <Bobby> how can i reach some one who can help me figure this out ?
[01:53] <brian98> cromagdk: n1
[01:53] <lupine_85> Dutchy: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[01:53] <Juan> great question, I have NTFS because I'm usin Windows XP
[01:53] <lupine_85> looks like you need to get the firmware
[01:53] <linuchsan> Zorlac: >lupine_85:is it ntfs?
[01:54] <CromagDK> mon0@85 and mon1@65
[01:54] <Zorlac> It has an ntfs parition.
[01:54] <lupine_85> linuchsan: the problem is writing partitions :)
[01:54] <Zorlac> if thats what you want
[01:54] <Juan> ok thanks
[01:54] <dionys> thats right isnt it brian98 ? :)
[01:54] <Zorlac> I was thinking maybe the MBR is messed up lupine, any way to just clean format the drive fresh?
[01:54] <Zorlac> so that i can write partitions on it again, and label it a msdos drive?
[01:54] <Zorlac> I can't evenn label it, it feels like it failed but i'm not too sure on nthat
[01:54] <brian98> dionys: I don't have 64bit here so I dunno.....
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <pushpop-> I remember seeing somewhere a software KMV Switch has anyone heard of such a thing?
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:55] <Telroth> lupine_85, you have to use ntfsresize to resize ntfs partitions
[01:55] <lupine_85> rewriting the partition table is easy - just sudo fdisk /dev/hd?
[01:55] <brian98> hey
[01:55] <CromagDK> thnkx for the spam we love
[01:55] <kittyhawk> hello - I have a strange problem that I don't know how to start troubleshooting.  Can anybody help?
[01:55] <kittyhawk> the problem is: my wireless performance degrades quickly from boot and after a short time becomes 0.
[01:55] <kittyhawk> at that point I am cut off and unable to reconnect
[01:55] <kittyhawk> ifdown ra0 and ifup ra0 don't help - I fail to get a dhcp lease on the ifup
[01:55] <lupine_85> Telroth: does the installer do that automagically?
[01:55] <kittyhawk> by the way If I disappear, you'll know why :)
[01:55] <krazykit> Bobby: spamming the channel is an excellent way of not getting help
[01:55] <Telroth> lupine_85, i don't like fdisk, it's trashed too many drives
[01:55] <dionys> I had the choise between generic and k8
[01:55] <Telroth> lupine_85, failed to fix, rather, the drives were already trashed
[01:55] <dionys> I had generic before but now I picked k8
[01:55] <dionys> does that matter ?
[01:55] <dionys> or?
[01:55] <lupine_85> kittyhawk: try updating the driver - the rt2500 driver with ubuntu is pretty out of date
[01:55] <brian98> dionsys: Maybe someone else here would have more experience with the 64bit stuff and the ATI drivers....
[01:55] <Bobby> ok sure but if i could AT LEAT GET THE ATENTION OF SOMEONE IT WOULD BE GREAT
[01:56] <Zorlac> lupine_85: i sudo'd into root, fdsik /dev/hda, and then there are no partitions.
[01:56] <mwe> !shout
[01:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:56] <brian98> I'm really sorry but I have no way of even trying it here!
[01:56] <brian98> sorry :((((((
[01:56] <dionys> k
[01:56] <dionys> np's:)
[01:56] <Flannel> Bobby: Do you really want 800 people telling you they don't know how to help?
[01:56] <Telroth> lupine_85, i don't know if it auto-resizes, i would think so considering majority of users are going to have a single ntfs partion that takes the entire drive when they start
[01:56] <Farrier> We can ignore uppercase too :P
[01:56] <lupine_85> repo line: "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk dapper main"  install the ralink-drivers pckage in question
[01:56] <brendonjt> !ubotu-brendonjt
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brendonjt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <dionys> isnt there a 64bit chan ?
[01:56] <lupine_85> Telroth: cool, thanks
[01:56] <mwe> Bobby: you'll get banned really soon if you continue like that
[01:56] <lupine_85> will remember that
[01:56] <brendonjt> !ubotu >brendonjt
[01:56] <Bobby> ok ill stop
[01:56] <Bobby> but dude i need help
[01:56] <Bobby> please get back to me
[01:56] <lupine_85> chances are, nobody's come across that situation
[01:57] <lupine_85> hence, can't help
[01:57] <brian98> bobby: purchase an ethernet router...
[01:57] <Flannel> Bobby: best thing to do is repeat your question every half hour or so.  While continuing to research forums, google, etc.
[01:57] <Farrier> kittyhawk: Could it be your adapter overheating? Only thing I can think of I'm afraid. Also try changing the adapter speed down to really low (1m/sec) and see if the problem continues?
[01:57] <brian98> www.ebay.com
[01:57] <lupine_85> the forum is usually a better bet, as mre people pop along
[01:57] <bhearsum> is it possible to add support for hibernating on my desktop computer?
[01:57] <kittyhawk> Farrier: how?
[01:57] <Zorlac> Sigh, is there a "format" command in linux? lol
[01:57] <lupine_85> Farrier: the rt2500 driver in dapper is a year out of date
[01:57] <Dutchy> lupine_85: do you mean the 'requirements' part on that page? i dont see anything about firmware
[01:57] <lupine_85> Zorlac: mkfs
[01:57] <Bobby> LOL would be great but my ISP wants me to use this
[01:57] <kittyhawk> lupine_85: how?
[01:58] <lupine_85> Dutchy: "# The binary microcode image, available here. "
[01:58] <fasdfasdf> good evenin
[01:58] <Bobby> plus if i want a Ethernet router they are charging me 10$ monthly
[01:58] <lupine_85> kittyhawk: with the repo line I just gave you :)#
[01:58] <kittyhawk> oops, sorry.
[01:58] <Dutchy> difficult words for firmware? :P
[01:58] <CromagDK> Bobby: buy one :)
[01:58] <dionys> btw brian98
[01:58] <lupine_85> add it to your /etc/sources.list (possibly using synaptic if you prefer)
[01:58] <brian98> ya
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Bobby: go pay 50-100 USD for a router and be done with the payments
[01:58] <kittyhawk> I got cut off for a while and got the whole group at once.
[01:58] <dionys> I cant do fglrxconfigure
[01:58] <fasdfasdf> how to get karma with support(in launchpad)?
[01:58] <kittyhawk> whole chat that is
[01:58] <dionys> is that normall?
[01:58] <lupine_85> then update your sources and search for ralink-
[01:58] <Farrier> kittyhawk: good question. I don't know, never used wifi on linux I'm afraid. Hnece the very generic suggestions.
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Bobby: my motorola was only 50ish
[01:59] <lupine_85> Dutchy: yep, sorry
[01:59] <dionys> I mean fglrxconfig
[01:59] <kittyhawk> Farrier: me neither.  I'll try to figure it out
[01:59] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: bug reports and other ways you might want to ask in #launchpad
[01:59] <brian98> I don't have that file...
[01:59] <lupine_85> do what it tells you to with the "microcode", and then either rmmod then modprobe the driver, or reboot again, and you might havemore luck
[01:59] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i did,but there are very few people
[01:59] <brian98> fglrxinfo
[01:59] <Dutchy> lupine_85: np, im already glad there's someone who know's what he's doing, cuz i for sure dont :)
[01:59] <CromagDK> i use a cisco router and have no problem, might wanna try a Zyxel router between ADSL modem and Ubuntu box Bobby
[01:59] <brian98> do you have that?
[02:00] <lupine_85> note that i've never used that driver before :)
[02:00] <lupine_85> router->USB modem is usually a non-sequiter
[02:00] <lupine_85> pick up a Zyxel P660-R for 40 (1-port Ethernet adsl modem+router) and use that instead
[02:00] <tuxtheslacker>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:00] <lupine_85> or grab a generic conexant for ~15
[02:01] <House_> how do i setup a sftp server on ubuntu?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: try the mailing lists than  there are a few ways like translation, bugs, uploads with more ways to come(that they are working on) but its offtopic for here please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic if #launchpad doesnt anwer
[02:01] <pauliukas> Hello everybody
[02:01] <brian98> and lose the headache tablets :)
[02:01] <lupine_85> house: install ssh
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:01] <pauliukas> What's the easiest way to get Windows Media Player playing in a web browser?
[02:01] <lupine_85> the sshd daemon deals with sftp
[02:01] <bean-oh> House_, ssh is enabled by default
[02:01] <gnomefreak> pauliukas: install windows
[02:01] <lupine_85> make sure you know all about security first, though
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> pauliukas, with xine.
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> sorry, didn't mean to send that again.
[02:01] <House_> ok so i can sftp in? just by using the ip?
[02:01] <brian98> gnomefreak: lol
[02:01] <lupine_85> bean-oh: I doubt the ssh server comes installed and enabled by default
[02:01] <pauliukas> Hmmm
[02:01] <Zorlac> badblocks....
[02:01] <pauliukas> I have mplayer installed.
[02:01] <Zorlac> So uh, bad blocks are bad =[
[02:02] <pauliukas> Will xine and it collapse?
[02:02] <linuchsan> House:don't
[02:02] <brian98> pauliukas: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:02] <bean-oh> lupine_85, actually, on second thought, you're right. ssh client yes, sshd is not. my mistake.
[02:02] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i just wanted to know how to get karma with support,addingt comments does not seem to be enough
[02:02] <pauliukas> brian98: But it only works for CERTAIN WMV files.
[02:02] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:02] <lupine_85> OpenSUSE does that
[02:02] <gnomefreak> pauliukas: there is no windows media player for linux there is mplayer there are a few like realplayer is more like wmp than anything
[02:02] <pauliukas> I have VLC on my win and mac computers. And I know most don't play
[02:02] <lupine_85> primary reason I stopped using it
[02:02] <lupine_85> (well, that and YaST!)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: it adds it the next day
[02:02] <Buck> how long does it take for shipit orders to come to sydney
[02:02] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i know
[02:02] <lupine_85> ~6 weeks I think
[02:02] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: karma comes with work ther eis no easy way to get it
[02:02] <brian98> I haven't had a prob with VLC playing any mms content at all...
[02:03] <treedreamer> hello,everyone ,today when i boot up my computer ,i get the following confusing messages: there are differences between the boot section and its backup  not automatically fix this ...
[02:03] <pauliukas> brian98: Does it play in a browser window?
[02:03] <House_> keeps tellin me connection refused when i try to sftp to the boxes ip
[02:03] <jester45> does anyone know if a yahoo.com email can be used in tunderbird
[02:03] <lupine_85> jester45: does it have POP3/IMAP access ?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> jester45: i do believe so but not real sure
[02:03] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i worked on support  yesterday and the day before yesterday,does one have to mark the request as answerd so that i get karma?
[02:03] <jester45> i dont know
[02:04] <jester45> doesnt say anything about it
[02:04] <treedreamer> has  everyone ever run into that?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: its on yahoos end that is a worry
[02:04] <Zorlac> jester45: i THINK yahoo mail may have pop access
[02:04] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that? I'm sorry... last time I promise.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: yes the $10 a year pop accounts can.
[02:04] <jester45> :(
[02:04] <lupine_85> !fetchyahoo
[02:04] <ubotu> fetchyahoo: Retrieve mail from Yahoo!'s webmail service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.0-1 (dapper), package size 37 kB, installed size 176 kB
[02:04] <jester45> i want free
[02:04] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: every comment you make on LP bugs wil give you karma
[02:04] <lupine_85> there you go
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> But if I remember I had to change a port setting, for the xp version anyhow
[02:04] <jester45> Jack_Sparrow: do you know where to get a free pop
[02:04] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: im talking about support reqeusts not bugs
[02:04] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: to continue this topic please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <House_> so umm how do i know if the sftp server is up?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: just google for one, they were all over..
[02:05] <lupine_85> House_: netstat -a |grep ssh
[02:05] <lupine_85> you should get a line like..
[02:05] <oMiC> hi
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: It was worth $10 a year for the extra features and no ads
[02:05] <jester45> i want to find one with like 3gb of storeage like gmail
[02:05] <liquidten2> pauliukas: install both mplayer and mplayerplug-in(perhaps called mplayer-mozilla or something) OR install totem-xine(which should come with the plugin by default, if not there may be a totem-mozilla)
[02:06] <oMiC> can anyone help on how to install jdk 5 ?
[02:06] <Dutchy> lupine_85: i think ill need your help yet again... the firmware readme ( http://bughost.org/ipw3945/ucode/README.ipw3945-ucode ) tells me i need hotplug but i dont think i have that... at least its not in synaptic...
[02:06] <brian98> pauliukas: google http://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-31,GGGL:en&q=vlc+firefox+plugin+ubuntu
[02:06] <lupine_85> tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[02:06] <mcphail> jester45: just run your own mailserver
[02:06] <gnomefreak> oMiC: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[02:06] <Flannel> !tell oMiC about java
[02:06] <House_> lupine: gives some output... what should I be looking for?
[02:06] <pauliukas> liquidten2: I did these commands for the mplayer.
[02:06] <zax1> why oh way did i ever switch from windows........
[02:06] <pauliukas> The problem with it is that it won't do it full screen
[02:06] <CromagDK> !tell CromagDK about java
[02:06] <lupine_85> Dutchy: hotplug is deprecated (i.e. no longer used). I think ubuntu uses coldplug now, which is probably backward-compatible... just try doing what it tells you to anyway
[02:07] <bruenig> zaxl, because linux is better?
[02:07] <oMiC> ok and how i can import that to eclipse where does it put the files i mean ?
[02:07] <zax1> nah...i thought it was , but it isnt
[02:07] <lupine_85> House_: something like tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[02:07] <brian98> zaxl: still got your CD's, off you go....
[02:07] <lupine_85> the "LISTEN" is the important bit
[02:07] <Kirby904> question, whenever i type something in command box it asks for password
[02:07] <Kirby904> what is that
[02:07] <overridex> zax1: adios!
[02:07] <lupine_85> yours will probably be "tcp" rather than tcp6
[02:07] <Dutchy> lupine_85: it doesnt work... ill try replacing coldplug by hotplug, if that doesnt work ill check back here again
[02:07] <Zorlac> "fdisk /dev/hda" "Unable to read /dev/hda"
[02:07] <liquidten2> zax1: Use windows then.  Not everybody is smart enough to use *nix, windows is still a viable solution for them.
[02:07] <Farrier> Question: which protocol is better, ftp:// or http:// for apt-get sources? My guess is FTP as the lighter protocol, but am I right?
[02:07] <chuckyp> Zorlac: fdisk -l
[02:08] <chuckyp> zax1: what are you trying to do?
[02:08] <House_> unix 2  [ACC]   STREAM LISTENING 25463 /tmp/ssh-lGxlWX8133/agent.8133
[02:08] <House_> thats my output
[02:08] <Kirby904> question, whenever i type something in command box it asks for password.... what password is it asking for
[02:08] <Zorlac> chuckyp: do anything to my drive, like write to it.
[02:08] <brian98> kirby904: your password for your username probably
[02:08] <lupine_85>  Dutchy: try putting the file in /lib/firmware/`uname -r` as well as /lib/firmware
[02:08] <Farrier> Kirby904: Your password that you use to log into the box, normally.
[02:08] <overridex> Kirby904: probably the root pass
[02:08] <Kirby904> i try it and it says auth fail sorry
[02:08] <lupine_85> House: that's not it
[02:08] <zax1> experiment with audiance reactions to criticism or implied inadiquacy of their favorite #os
[02:09] <Kirby904> ...
[02:09] <lupine_85> Zorlac: sudo
[02:09] <chuckyp> Zorlac: okay whats your setup or your goal here sorry I just got here I saw you had an error with fdisk if you type fdisk -l it will list the partittions
[02:09] <Zorlac> chuckyp: It doesn't read hda right, says ingoring extra data in partition table 5 and invalid flag 0x0002 of partition ntable 5
[02:09] <House_> lupine: i havent done anything, just booted the live cd... so how do i get ssh runnin?
[02:09] <bruenig> zaxl, what problem did you have with linux?
[02:09] <krazykit> hell.
[02:09] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i'm trying to just wipe the entire drive and start fresh
[02:09] <Kirby904> wtf
[02:09] <chuckyp> Zorlac: well useual hda5 is swap partition unless you have some wierd multi-boot setup
[02:09] <zax1> mainly driver support
[02:09] <krazykit> ati-drivers are not playing nice with my fun new kernel.
[02:09] <Kirby904> u type in my pass and it doesnt work
[02:09] <liquidten2> zax1: Ubuntu is not my favorite OS ;)
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>    1.
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>       The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>    2.
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>         realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>    3.
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>       E: Broken packages  HELP
[02:09] <Kirby904> i press enter = auth fail
[02:09] <chuckyp> Zorlac: are you installing ubuntu or you already have it installed
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> sorry....
[02:09] <lupine_85> House_: on the live CD, you need to install the package openssh-server
[02:09] <gnomefreak> oMiC: is there a reason you pm'ed me. something you need that you cant ask in channel
[02:09] <Zorlac> chuckyp: originaly hda5 was a 100gb NTFS parttion on a 120 gb drive.
[02:09] <pauliukas> Hey guys.... How can I make full screen with the totem fullscreen plugin?
[02:10] <oMiC> gnomefreak: ok sorry about that , do you know where it places the files ?
[02:10] <Kirby904> OHHHHH nvm
[02:10] <chuckyp> Zorlac: okay how are you in nix now booting to it?
[02:10] <zptao> anyone know where i can find the util for smart?
[02:10] <chuckyp> Zorlac: or you are trying to install to it?
[02:10] <Kirby904> the su command is su (username)
[02:10] <Kirby904> lol didnt know
[02:10] <gnomefreak> oMiC: locate java ;)
[02:10] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i can't install ubutnu, i'm on the disk though.
[02:10] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i tried to install ubuntu unto /dev/hda telling it to just erase the drive, and it failed writing the parition.
[02:11] <bruenig> pauliukas, not sure of the fullscreen plugin you talk of but generally just pressing f will make it full screen
[02:11] <lupine_85> Kirby904: technically su [username]  :). defaults to root
[02:11] <Kirby904> oh well cya guys brb later
[02:11] <liquidten2> pauliukas: I do not thing totem plugin supports fullscreen.  I *know* that mplayerplug-in does though.
[02:11] <Kirby904> yea i know lol
[02:11] <chuckyp> Zorlac: hrm.... that should definately work unless the drive is bad. Try typing sudo fdisk -l to list the partitions
[02:11] <bruenig> oh he is talking of plugin
[02:11] <bruenig> nevermind
[02:11] <pauliukas> bruenig: Nope. F doesn't do anything
[02:11] <Kirby904> i needa to be on root so i could install Java
[02:11] <Kirby904> ...
[02:11] <oMiC> gnomefreak: are you sure this is the package for JDK 5 ?
[02:11] <pauliukas> Golly golly golly
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>    1.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>       The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>    2.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>         realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>    3.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>       E: Broken packages  HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
[02:11] <Kirby904> for firefox
[02:11] <Kirby904> i cya guys
[02:11] <pauliukas> Why can't they make something that works out of the box?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> oMiC: yes
[02:11] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i did list the partitions
[02:11] <Flannel> tuxtheslacker: dont paste here, again.
[02:11] <chuckyp> Zorlac: then see ifyou have gparted or qparted some sort of graphical partitioning tool would be easier to clean it etc...
[02:11] <oMiC> ok thnx
[02:11] <Flyoc> how do I find my chipset ?
[02:12] <Zorlac> chuckyp: it gives me an error when trying to read the partitons.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Flyoc: lspci?
[02:12] <chuckyp> Flyoc: chipset of what?
[02:12] <pauliukas> Flyoc: lspci
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> sorry, I just REALLY need help.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: dont paste in here again use pastebin
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> my girlfriend is going to kick my ass if I don't get htis thing wokring.
[02:12] <Flyoc> chipset I have to select under the AGP setting in kernel config
[02:12] <chuckyp> ubotu: tell tuxtheslacker about paste
[02:12] <bruenig> pauliukas, why not just use mplayer plugin
[02:12] <lupine_85> mplayer can play realplayer files
[02:12] <pauliukas> bruenig: It couldn't do fullscreen
[02:12] <lupine_85> oops, snap
[02:12] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: im going to ban you if you dont stop pasting and you dont watch your language
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> mplayer has the realplway plugins?
[02:12] <pauliukas> I had it before you guys reocmmended xine
[02:12] <lupine_85> or helixplayer?
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> I'm sorry gnomefreak
[02:12] <bruenig> pauliukas, mplayer plugin can easy, just hit f
[02:12] <morbid88> Hi... uh, is anyone available to help me out? I'm looking for help with wireless networking.
[02:13] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: use realplayer
[02:13] <linuchsan> tuxtheslacker:lucky you
[02:13] <lupine_85> morbid88: what sort of help? :)
[02:13] <bruenig> I have never used the totem plugin but I am certain of the mplayer's ability to go full screen
[02:13] <gnomefreak> !realplayer > tuxtheslacker
[02:13] <chuckyp> ubotu: !tell morbid88 about ask
[02:13] <brian98>  tuxtheslacker: sudo apt-get install realplay
[02:13] <chuckyp> !tell morbid88 about ask
[02:13] <chuckyp> doesn't that work anymore wth?
[02:13] <seurimas> greetz all
[02:13] <lupine_85> bruenig: as long as you have the right video engine set up
[02:13] <gnomefreak> brian98: totem and mplayer both go full screen
[02:13] <gnomefreak> bruenig:  not brian98
[02:13] <brian98> :)
[02:14] <gnomefreak> sorry brian98
[02:14] <morbid88> chuckyp, I'll see if I can read the forum instructions on the web.
[02:14] <brian98> it's ok, good to know ;)
[02:14] <chuckyp> morbid88: what are you trying to do?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > Jack_sparrow
[02:14] <morbid88> I'm trying to set up wireless networking on a laptop, and it's been giving me hell all week,
[02:14] <liquidten2> pauliukas: the mplaye rplugin DOES do fullscreen.  I am entirely certain, as I am running it now in fullscreen.
[02:14] <pauliukas> YAY!
[02:14] <chuckyp> morbid88: what type of wifi card?
[02:14] <lupine_85> morbid88: do you know what chipset it is?
[02:14] <pauliukas> Yeah. Mplayer did it
[02:15] <morbid88> intel pro 3945. I've read there's a lot of issues with it, and I tried a script from Wheelspin?
[02:15] <morbid88> I'm new to linux... but not totally lost.
[02:15] <brian98> morbid88: have you tried ndiswrapper
[02:15] <lupine_85> heh, Dutchy is trying that as well
[02:15] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper didn't work for him/her
[02:15] <Zorlac> chuckyp: gparted doesn't see any partitions on the drive, is there any way to check the entire drive for failures?
[02:15] <morbid88> no, I couldn't get past installing the ieee80211
[02:16] <zparta> is there any good howto to setup xgl and compiz(-quinnstorm) ?
[02:16] <lupine_85> have you tried getting the already-present driver working?
[02:16] <brian98> it's the only way I could get wireless support running on a good few installs.... Sooner the better the vendors release the specs
[02:16] <chuckyp> Zorlac: I'm sure there is but I don't remember the command atm.....   Possibly try creating a partition then on it.
[02:16] <morbid88> The networking manager doesn't see my card, but the device manager does.
[02:16] <Dutchy> morbid88: i think there's a ieee80211 in ubuntu by default... not the newest version but i dont think it matters
[02:16] <chuckyp> Zorlac: I know there is definately a commmand to check the disk.  try something along the lines of apropos check disk
[02:16] <lupine_85> morbid88: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ - the driver is already compiled and in the kernel, but the firmware/microcode isn't
[02:16] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i can't create a partiton becuase it says there is no disklabel type, and i cannot write a disklabel type.
[02:17] <morbid88> I couldn't find the firmware directory to put it in.
[02:17] <chuckyp> Zorlac: hrm... kind of catch 22 what type of drive is this ide sata? scsi?
[02:17] <lupine_85> Zorlac: how about option o ?
[02:17] <Zorlac> chuckyp: regular IDE ata
[02:17] <lupine_85> I assume you've checked permissions, and are running as root etc.
[02:17] <chuckyp> morbid88: did you try searching the forums for your card?
[02:17] <morbid88> I've got the files from ipw3945 as well.
[02:17] <morbid88> Oh, yes. There's an 18 page thread on it.
[02:18] <Zorlac> lupine_85: i am running root
[02:18] <lupine_85> and they're in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/`uname -r` ?
[02:18] <chuckyp> Zorlac: hrm.. perhaps someone here knows the command to check a disk?
[02:18] <morbid88> They've all used Wheelspin's script to get it going, and it doesn't work for me.
[02:19] <pauliukas> Hey guys.
[02:19] <mypapitfx> hey!
[02:19] <pauliukas> The quality on mplayer is very bad. Very pixelized.
[02:19] <morbid88> I don't ave a /lib/firmware. Should I just mkdir it?
[02:19] <pauliukas> Anything that I could do?
[02:19] <lupine_85> morbid88: yes
[02:19] <liquidten2> pauliukas: Did you set it to use XV?
[02:19] <sethk> morbid88, won't help, though
[02:19] <pauliukas> How would I do that?
[02:19] <lupine_85> make sure it's world-readable (write and execute probably don't matter)
[02:19] <lupine_85> sethk: looks like the firmware is all that's missing
[02:19] <liquidten2> pauliukas: If you have an nvidia/ati card, have you installed the official drivers?
[02:20] <pauliukas> yeah
[02:20] <morbid88> seth, lupine: I do have the directory, my mistake.
[02:20] <sethk> lupine_85, indeed, but it isn't missing because the directory isn't there
[02:20] <lupine_85> i interpret it as the driver is loaded, but can't bring up the interface because it doesn't have the firmware
[02:20] <morbid88> it's got some kernel code in it.
[02:20] <jona_> Hey guys, How're u doing??? Am having some problems with my vfat partition, could any body helpme???
[02:20] <liquidten2> pauliukas: Does, "mplayer -vo xv /home/username/samplevideo.avi" produce higher quality videos?
[02:20] <fasdfasdf> !doesntwork
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesntwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <fasdfasdf> !doesn twork
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn twork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <fasdfasdf> !doesnt work
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[02:21] <Kirby904> =( problem problem... NEED HELP INSTALLING JAVA FOR 6.06
[02:21] <treedreamer> jona_:what problem?
[02:21] <CromagDK> Kirby904: here
[02:21] <w3rdn4>  #trillionaresclub
[02:21] <fasdfasdf> Kirby904: install automatix
[02:21] <Zorlac> Ah, i'll just use badblocks...
[02:21] <Kirby904> ?
[02:21] <CromagDK> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:21] <Kirby904> well
[02:21] <Kirby904> the problem is
[02:21] <jona_> OK, I have already mounted a vfat partition that I can see from WinXP and from Ubuntu
[02:21] <morbid88> chuckyp: do I just drop the ipw3945-ucode file into the firmware directory?
[02:21] <jona_> But...
[02:21] <bruenig> why would you have him use automatix for one thing?
[02:21] <Kirby904> i cant get on root
[02:21] <Zorlac> Is it possible to just low-level format my drive?
[02:21] <jona_> Every time when I restart my computer
[02:21] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sure you can..
[02:22] <CromagDK> sudo
[02:22] <Kirby904> o
[02:22] <CromagDK> and enter password
[02:22] <PM^> hello, I'm using a pentium D with dual cor machine. what kernel should I install ? I found some things online saying that a -xeon kernel should be used, but i cannot fund it with aptitude. What do you suggest I install?
[02:22] <Kirby904> oh ok
[02:22] <CromagDK> sudo command
[02:22] <jona_> i have to mount again and again the partition
[02:22] <chuckyp> sry had to dl a new irc client
[02:22] <CromagDK> ;)
[02:22] <Kirby904> =) well, ok
[02:22] <CromagDK> so: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:22] <chuckyp> chatzilla kept crashing
[02:22] <lupine_85> morbid88, chuckyb: hrm. In the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel, the default version of ieee80211 seems to be 1.1.7 (we need 1.1.11)
[02:22] <treedreamer> jona_: try ---sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:22] <lupine_85> HOWEVER
[02:22] <liquidten2> PM^: A 686 kernel will do.
[02:22] <Zorlac> haha chuckyp
[02:22] <pauliukas> liquidten2: I'm using it from the browser. So I can't do commandline
[02:23] <lupine_85> there is/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13
[02:23] <gepatino> PM^: try the i686 kernel, it supports smp
[02:23] <jona_> Ok, let my try.....
[02:23] <treedreamer> jona_:first you should backup the /ect/fstab
[02:23] <chuckyp> Zorlac: yeah i'm curently in windows so I downloaded a irssi windows binary working pretty well
[02:23] <Kirby904> umm couldnt find package
[02:23] <Kirby904> one sec
[02:23] <tuxtheslacker> sudo apt-get install realplayer breaks.
[02:23] <jona_> On my home???
[02:23] <tuxtheslacker> it tells me it can't find xlibs.
[02:23] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sudo apt-get update
[02:23] <treedreamer> sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_back
[02:23] <CromagDK> and
[02:23] <CromagDK> butw
[02:23] <liquidten2> pauliukas: Close your browser and add this to your ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
[02:23] <liquidten2> pauliukas: "vo=xv"
[02:23] <CromagDK> Kirby904: make sources.list use multiverse to
[02:24] <Dutchy> bah, errors trying to load the driver now :o
[02:24] <liquidten2> pauliukas: without the quotes of course
[02:24] <CromagDK> sudo gkedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <Zorlac> chuckyp: know how to low-level format the hd?
[02:24] <chuckyp> Zorlac: fsck /dev/hda will check the disk
[02:24] <lupine_85>  morbid88, Dutchy: I think that you need to copy in the firmware to /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/`uname -r`, then rmmod the current instance of ipw3945 as well as the ieee80211 module
[02:24] <Kirby904> E: Invalid operation sun-java5-jre
[02:24] <Zorlac> rgr
[02:24] <Kirby904> ?
[02:24] <Dutchy> i did the firmware part
[02:24] <zparta> is there any good howto to setup xgl and compiz(-quinnstorm) ?
[02:24] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sudo gkedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <chuckyp> Zorlac: err fsck will check partitions
[02:25] <Kirby904> ok
[02:25] <jona_> Treedreamer are u in there???
[02:25] <lupine_85> then manually insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13/ieee80211_1_1_13.ko
[02:25] <Zorlac> oh
[02:25] <morbid88> lupine: rmmod?
[02:25] <chuckyp> Zorlac: i.e. fsck /dev/hda1
[02:25] <lupine_85> terminal command - sudo rmmod will take a module out of the kernel
[02:25] <Zorlac> chuckyp: too bad there is ONLY /dev/hda
[02:25] <Kirby904> sudo: gkedit: command not found
[02:25] <Kirby904> omg one sec
[02:25] <Kirby904> all i needa know how to do is
[02:25] <Kirby904> make a folder inside /usr
[02:25] <Kirby904> whats the command to make folders
[02:25] <CromagDK> mkdir
[02:25] <morbid88> ah.
[02:25] <Kirby904> OHHH
[02:25] <liquidten2> mkdir /usr/FOLDERNAME
[02:25] <Dutchy> and a similar insmod for ipw3945.ko i guess?
[02:26] <morbid88> and insmod will do the opposite.
[02:26] <Kirby904> i thought it was makdir the whole time
[02:26] <Kirby904> lol
[02:26] <Kirby904> sorry
[02:26] <lupine_85> once you've done insmod as above, try sudo modprobe ipw3945 and see if you get an interface
[02:26] <CromagDK> ah ;)
[02:26] <Kirby904> for my stupid mistakes
[02:26] <pauliukas> Are there any special steps to undertake installing ATi Drivers?
[02:26] <morbid88> lupine: thanks, let me see if I've got it.
[02:26] <chuckyp> Zorlac: what do you want to do now write 0's to the drive?
[02:26] <pauliukas> I followed their usual installed. And did aticonfig --initial
[02:26] <CromagDK> Kirby904: but anyways dude, edit sources.list and add multiverse to archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[02:26] <dionys> brian98, seems that dri lets it crash
[02:26] <CromagDK> that line
[02:26] <lupine_85> two barriers, then: the default ieee80211 isn't a high enough version, and the firmware needs to be in those two directories
[02:26] <CromagDK> then sudo apt-get update
[02:26] <linuchsan> Zorlac:what does fdisk -l say?
[02:27] <Kirby904> well gkedit is not a command sudo: gkedit: command not found
[02:27] <CromagDK> and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:27] <chuckyp> Zorlac: that would be something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M
[02:27] <Zorlac> linuchsan: it says there is extra data on hda5 and gives me some error like 0x0002
[02:27] <liquidten2> gedit is the proper command
[02:27] <Zorlac> chuckyp: funny enough i already run that.
[02:27] <chuckyp> Zorlac: that will definately destroy all data
[02:27] <CromagDK> Kirby904: then sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:27] <Kirby904> oh ok
[02:27] <lupine_85> (I'm working on http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/wlan-magick)
[02:27] <CromagDK> liquidten2: how to save then ?
[02:27] <CromagDK> when not root
[02:27] <chuckyp> pulsradio rocks.
[02:27] <liquidten2> "sudo gedit"
[02:27] <Kirby904> now what line do i change
[02:27] <liquidten2> sorry
[02:27] <CromagDK> doh, my bah
[02:28] <CromagDK> bad
[02:28] <UKMatt> !repository
[02:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:28] <lupine_85> gksudo gedit
[02:28] <lupine_85> :D
[02:28] <Dutchy> insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13/ieee80211_1_1_13.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[02:28] <CromagDK> ye
[02:28] <dionys> guys can fglrx work without dri ?
[02:28] <CromagDK> Kirby904: reading ?
[02:28] <Kirby904> ?
[02:28] <chuckyp> Why is ubuntuforums.org always having issues?
[02:28] <Telroth> dionys, perhaps, i've never used fglrx
[02:28] <Zorlac> fsck failed! hahaha
[02:28] <Kirby904> pls say Kirby904: wen u talk to me lol
[02:28] <bruenig> chuckyp, too high server load
[02:28] <lupine_85> Dutchy: hmm. How about modprobe ieee80211_1_1_13 ?
[02:28] <Kirby904> cause i get comfused
[02:28] <brian98> dionsys: Sorry just back, where you at?
[02:28] <Zorlac> fsk said "Attempt to read block from filesystem reuslted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda"
[02:28] <CromagDK> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list Kirby904
[02:28] <chuckyp> bruenig: really annoying.
[02:28] <liquidten2> Dutchy: run "sudo /sbin/depmod" and then run "sudo modinfo ieee80211_1_1_13"
[02:28] <dionys> Telroth, maybe you dont have an ati card ?
[02:28] <UKMatt> how do you tell if a repository is universe, or universe multiverse
[02:28] <Kirby904> one sec
[02:28] <Telroth> dionys, i know the nvidia drivers don't need dri
[02:29] <bruenig> chuckyp, if people like you would stop using it, it would run smoother for me
[02:29] <Telroth> dionys, i have nvidia
[02:29] <chuckyp> bruenig: lol I was just checking for people that needed help lol
[02:29] <bruenig> UKMatt, in the sources list, it says it by the source
[02:29] <CromagDK> !tell Kirby904 about java
[02:29] <Telroth> dionys, since nvidia doesn't need dri, i don't think ati should either
[02:29] <CromagDK> :D
[02:29] <UKMatt> bruenig, i mean one that i want to add, one that i don't know
[02:29] <Kirby904> Now what
[02:29] <chuckyp> UKMatt: well you can look on the line in the sources.list and it will say.
[02:29] <Kirby904> ii opened it
[02:29] <linuchsan> Zorlac:can you post your fdisk -l?
[02:29] <Telroth> dionys, dri just speeds up opengl rendering
[02:30] <CromagDK> Kirby904: just the bot telling you about the stuff :)
[02:30] <Zorlac> linuchsan: right after i try this dd thing.
[02:30] <dionys> if I type fglrxinfo it says : Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[02:30] <Kirby904> oh ok
[02:30] <Kirby904> lol
[02:30] <dionys> :(
[02:30] <chuckyp> UKMatt: is this a source your adding from someone elses site?  or official ubuntu site?
[02:30] <FrogstarScout> hey guys
[02:30] <Marcelo> hello
[02:30] <bruenig> UKMatt, if you get a source from some third party, it probably is not universe or multiverse or anything of that sort. It is just an independent repository, if that is what you are referring to
[02:30] <linuchsan> Zorlac:no
[02:30] <Dutchy> lupine_85: does nothing --- liquidten2: returns some stuff about ieee80211
[02:30] <Kirby904> but cant i just get the file from the website
[02:30] <Marcelo> sombody can help me with the printer stuff?
[02:30] <Kirby904> and install it like that?
[02:30] <lupine_85>  liquidten2, Ditchy, morbid88: looks like it need the ieee80211_1_1_13_crypto module loading first... but the modprobe (above) should do that automatically
[02:30] <chuckyp> dionys: what type of card?
[02:30] <CromagDK> Kirby904: what file ?
[02:30] <Kirby904> from java website
[02:30] <UKMatt> bruenig, yeah thats probably what it is, then what do i just leave it blank?
[02:30] <Kirby904> the .bin
[02:30] <dionys> ati x1900XTX
[02:30] <lupine_85> Dutchy: that is good :)
[02:30] <CromagDK> Kirby904: for java ?
[02:31] <bruenig> UKMatt, what is the source you are talking about
[02:31] <lupine_85> Does lsmod say that the module is loaded?
[02:31] <UKMatt> chuckyp, it's http://theli.free.fr/packages/
[02:31] <Kirby904> yes
[02:31] <chuckyp> UKMatt: you just follow their directions
[02:31] <FrogstarScout> i've just picked up an Sound Blaster Live! card under the belief that it would work well under Ubuntu but i am getting no auto recognition
[02:31] <Kirby904> and use the chmod command
[02:31] <Kirby904> thing
[02:31] <UKMatt> bruenig, it's http://theli.free.fr/packages/
[02:31] <Marcelo> i cant print in my lexmark x3350
[02:31] <UKMatt> chuckyp, they didn't list any
[02:31] <Kirby904> oh well ill just do it u guys way whatever
[02:31] <Dutchy> checking
[02:31] <FrogstarScout> i was wondering if someone might know what i should do to make her work?
[02:31] <lupine_85> (e.g. you see ieee80211_1_1_13 in the left column)
[02:31] <nownot> whats experience w/ writing to ntfs any major data loss
[02:31] <chuckyp> UKMatt: well back up your sources.list and try adding it and see if it updates okay. Most likely you will need a pgp key as well.
[02:31] <Dutchy> lupine_85: yes loaded
[02:31] <lupine_85> w00t :)
[02:31] <lupine_85> okay, now try loading the ipw module
[02:32] <dionys> :(
[02:32] <lupine_85> so "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[02:32] <emo> hi I've been downloading some e-books but some of them I couldn't open so how can I find the right format to istall the right plugins ?
[02:32] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: thats strange mine worked without a hitch
[02:32] <CromagDK> Kirby904: 1. edit sources.list and add multiverse to the deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse (where dk is your country code) 2. sudo apt-get update 3. sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:32] <Dutchy> ok trying
[02:32] <bruenig> UKMatt, are you saying you want listen or whatever that is called. What you linked to me had no mention of sources, just had an index of some directory tree
[02:32] <azureal> hi, if i wanted to reemove a kernel, would i just remove the appropriate directories in /usr/src and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[02:32] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: make sure its showing up with lspci
[02:32] <FrogstarScout> it wasn't in the machine when i installed Dapper
[02:32] <FrogstarScout> it is as follows:
[02:32] <UKMatt> chuckyp, yeah i do, how do i do that?
[02:32] <emo> hi I've been downloading some e-books but some of them I couldn't open so how can I find the right format to istall the right plugins ?
[02:32] <chuckyp> azureal: you could remove the package
[02:32] <FrogstarScout> 0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
[02:32] <FrogstarScout> 0000:00:14.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 08)
[02:33] <UKMatt> bruenig, yeah thats the program, that was the link for the repo they listed
[02:33] <azureal> chuckyp, nope; manual install
[02:33] <chuckyp> azureal: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.15-whatever
[02:33] <Dutchy> lupine_85: done, its loaded checked it
[02:33] <nownot> no one has any experience w/ writing to ntfs
[02:33] <chuckyp> azureal: ahh well thats a different story
[02:33] <azureal> chuckyp, just tell me if what i said works
[02:33] <bruenig> UKMatt, I still don't see a repo, It has some debs there. You can just download the debs and set them up without using repositories
[02:33] <lupine_85> ok... and do you have any wireless interfaces shown if you run iwconfig ?
[02:33] <Dutchy> nothing showig
[02:33] <lupine_85> :(
[02:34] <chuckyp> azureal: I'm not sure but I believe it would keep files else where.
[02:34] <lupine_85> can you pastebin the output of dmesg ?
[02:34] <liquidten2> nothing shows up?
[02:34] <FrogstarScout> do i need to load a module of some sort?
[02:34] <FrogstarScout> i have ALSA Mixer and ALSA tools installer
[02:34] <FrogstarScout> installed*
[02:34] <bruenig> UKMatt, just use this link and open with gdebi, it will install it for you http://theli.free.fr/packages/pool/listen/l/listen/listen_0.3.1-1_i386.deb
[02:34] <chuckyp> azureal: If you aren't really concerned abou tthe 20megs. just remove its entry from menu.1st
[02:34] <Dutchy> liquidten2: well some output, but no wireless
[02:34] <brian98> dionsys: still there?
[02:34] <Marcelo> i cant printtttttttttttttttttt
[02:34] <UKMatt> bruenig, yeah actually you're right, i didn't realize they were in there, i thought that was a repo
[02:35] <azureal> chuckyp, i'd just like to install it again from scratch
[02:35] <bruenig> UKMatt, and it will still be tracked by apt, meaning if you decide you don't want it, all you have to do is sudo apt-get remove listen
[02:35] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: its should see it is lspci seeing the card?
[02:35] <liquidten2> Dutchy: If the module is successfully loaded, the devices should be there.  What devices show up?  (other than "lo")
[02:35] <Marcelo> sombody can help me please?????
[02:35] <Dutchy> lupine_85: i think i found relevant info there
[02:35] <Marcelo> somebody cannn
[02:35] <linuchsan> Marcelo:your t is stuck
[02:35] <nownot> hmm anhone ntfs writing how good does this work
[02:35] <Dutchy> [17182820.160000]  ipw3945: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:
[02:35] <Dutchy> [17182820.160000]  Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
[02:35] <lupine_85> hmm. Looks like http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/README.ipw3945d is also needed
[02:35] <Kirby904> Ok, so java costs money? wtf
[02:35] <Kirby904> nvm
[02:35] <Marcelo> sorry
[02:35] <FrogstarScout> chuckyp: 0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
[02:35] <FrogstarScout> 0000:00:14.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 08)
[02:35] <CromagDK> Kirby904: huh ? no
[02:35] <lupine_85> Dutchy: do you have a switch anywhere?
[02:35] <gepatino> Marcelo: whats your problem?
[02:35] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: hrm...
[02:35] <lupine_85> Many laptops come with one to turn on/off the wlan hardware
[02:36] <liquidten2> Dutchy: Turn your radio frequency kill switch off I suppose.
[02:36] <Marcelo> look
[02:36] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: do you have hwinfo installed?
[02:36] <Marcelo> i got a lexmark
[02:36] <FrogstarScout> lemme see
[02:36] <Marcelo> and i cant find any driver
[02:36] <Dutchy> a switch on my laptop? searching
[02:36] <lupine_85> try that before trying anything with ipw3945.d
[02:36] <UKMatt> bruenig, where did you find that link?  the one they give is a power PC one
[02:36] <lupine_85> (the solution is always hardware ;) )
[02:36] <FrogstarScout> nope
[02:36] <Marcelo> gepatino...ther is no driver for lexmark x3350
[02:36] <FrogstarScout> no hwinfo installed
[02:37] <gepatino> Marcelo: when you define a new printer, you have several drivers, hava you tried anyone similar?
[02:37] <Marcelo> yes
[02:37] <Marcelo> i tried all this
[02:37] <Marcelo> and no
[02:37] <UKMatt> !repositories
[02:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:37] <Marcelo> try
[02:37] <lupine_85> turboprint will probably work, if nothing else
[02:37] <lupine_85> www.turboprint.de
[02:37] <lupine_85> ~$30, IIRC
[02:37] <FrogstarScout> right now i only have shell access to the box over ssh so my goal is to get the card recognized by lspci
[02:37] <lupine_85> (free trial)
[02:37] <azureal> chuckyp, i'm removing the relative files in /usr/src, /lib/modules, and /lib/firmware
[02:37] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: well we need to find a way if there is a module being loaded for it.
[02:37] <Marcelo> i look in internet
[02:37] <Dutchy> i dont see any switches but ill get the manual of my laptop, see if i can find any
[02:38] <liquidten2> azureal: there will also be the kernel binary itself located in /boot
[02:38] <brian98> dionsys: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.29
[02:38] <chuckyp> azureal: before you do that just make sure you are in a different kernel
[02:38] <sethk> FrogstarScout, lspci sees everything on the pci bus.  if the card is operational and plugged in, lspci sees it
[02:38] <azureal> chuckyp, of course ;)
[02:38] <sethk> FrogstarScout, doesn't require kernel support, or any other support
[02:38] <Marcelo> but looks like this print simply no driver in linux
[02:38] <chuckyp> azureal: there is a image file as well somewhere reference the menu.1st for it.
[02:38] <gepatino> Marcelo: have you check on Ubuntu wiki if the hardware is supported?
[02:38] <Marcelo> this printer
[02:38] <Marcelo> nopp
[02:38] <liquidten2> azureal: When I remove a kernel that I installed myself, a simple, "rm -rf /boot/vmlinuz-KERNELVERSIONIWANTTODELETE /usr/src/linux-KERNELVERSION /lib/modules/KERNELVERSION" is all that is necessary.  Then edit grub/lilo to reflect.
[02:38] <azureal> oh, right, i'd said i would edit menu.lst
[02:38] <chuckyp> azureal: make sure its not a common image file that the other kernels aren't using.
[02:38] <Marcelo> but
[02:38] <sethk> FrogstarScout, it might print "unknown" for the vendor or device id, but that's insignificant.  unknown vendor is quite unlikely.  unknown device happens occasionally
[02:38] <FrogstarScout> right but shouldn't it call it another name besides "unclassified device" when the right module is loaded?
[02:38] <sethk> FrogstarScout, no
[02:39] <gepatino> Marcelo: well.. some hardware is not supported.. yet
[02:39] <FrogstarScout> ok.
[02:39] <sethk> FrogstarScout, lspci has it's own pci table of vendors and devices
[02:39] <Marcelo> sahsa&&@@#~44
[02:39] <azureal> ok, thx liquidten2 + chuckyp
[02:39] <gepatino> Marcelo: but you could try with some generic driver
[02:39] <FrogstarScout> so first i should install this hwinfo program and see what info i can glean fro mit?
[02:39] <iCod> Hey, I have a HUGE problem. I have to reboot to mount anything, including cds, ipods, and thumb drives
[02:39] <Marcelo> i try too
[02:39] <sethk> FrogstarScout, can't hurt, certainly.
[02:39] <FrogstarScout> ok
[02:39] <libervisco> hello
[02:39] <Marcelo> but the job was "printing"
[02:40] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: well if you install hwinfo you can do something like hwinfo --sound | less and see which module its trying to use.
[02:40] <Marcelo> and .. nothing
[02:40] <morbid88> lupine_85: I tried running that script again. It goes through ost of the process, but only tells me it can't find the device in the end.
[02:40] <libervisco> Has anyone experienced sound outages after removing totem?
[02:40] <sethk> FrogstarScout, the data lspci uses is in /usr/share/hwdata/pci.ids
[02:40] <azureal> liquidten2, actually, could I remove kernel-headers-VERSION as well?
[02:40] <FrogstarScout> good. that'll get me somewhere > than i am now
[02:40] <morbid88> I also failed to follow what you did with dutchy.
[02:40] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: also make sure that its not a codec issue.
[02:40] <liquidten2> azureal: It's a very good idea to keep the kernel headers.
[02:40] <FrogstarScout> i'll be back when i get that out of the way
[02:40] <FrogstarScout> how do you mean chucky?
[02:40] <liquidten2> azureal: Glibc needs the headers of the same kernel that it was compiled against.
[02:40] <Marcelo> can you any idea
[02:40] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: k just a simple apt-get install hwinfo should work for adding it.
[02:40] <Dutchy> lupine_85: well i did find a switch that had to be turned on... but still gives the same msg in dmesg
[02:40] <iCod> anyone know why I have to reboot to mount anything?
[02:40] <FrogstarScout> no system utils or ALSA utils see any sound hardware
[02:40] <Kirby904> what is command to move files
[02:40] <gepatino> Marcelo: you should contact lexmark and ask them to release open specifications, or drivers for linux
[02:40] <Kirby904> move?
[02:41] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: like if you are just testing by trying to play an mp3 and you don't have codecs for it.
[02:41] <liquidten2> azureal: So that means you should keep the kernel headers, even if the kernel headers do NOT match your kernel version.
[02:41] <azureal> liquidten2, but i would like to completely remove a kernel...
[02:41] <Dutchy> morbid88: heh sorry :> what step you on?
[02:41] <lupine_85> Dutchy: ok, try doing what it says in http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/README.ipw3945d
[02:41] <FrogstarScout> right.. i am using an Audio CD for testing.. that should be fine right?
[02:41] <CromagDK> Kirby904: mv
[02:41] <morbid88> dutchy: well, I've placed the firmware files into the directories.
[02:41] <Kirby904> kk ty
[02:41] <CromagDK> np
[02:41] <morbid88> and now I'm trying to see which modules are installed to remove them.
[02:41] <liquidten2> azureal: I still have the kernel headers for 2.4.31 on my machine, even though I am using 2.6.17
[02:41] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: yeah unless you don't ahve the audio cable hooked up wrong or something.
[02:41] <lupine_85> morbid88: did you do all the ^ ieee80211_1_1_13 stuff ^ ?
[02:42] <libervisco> A guy removed totem and xine and lost sound on his Ubuntu
[02:42] <lupine_85> right now we're at the fingernail-bitingly-close stage :)
[02:42] <Marcelo> mister gepatino...thanks very much...but in Chile this is no possible...i lived in the third world!! buaaa
[02:42] <libervisco> Anyone knows why?
[02:42] <Kirby904> do i just type where i want to move the file to right after where it is?
[02:42] <liquidten2> azureal: You do not need to install the same version of kernel headers as your kernel either, so just keep one set, and keep what the OS wanted to install by default.
[02:42] <azureal> liquidten2, it's kinda backwards here... i'm trying to remove 2.6.17 when i'm using 2.6.15
[02:42] <morbid88> Lupine_85: yes, I tried modprobing it and got FATAL.
[02:42] <gepatino> Marcelo: i know what you mean, i from argentina
[02:42] <Kirby904> for examlple mv /usr/file a /usr/java/file b
[02:42] <Kirby904> is that correct?
[02:42] <Marcelo> jajaj
[02:42] <FrogstarScout> you mean the audio cable from the CD rom to the card or the card output to the speakers?
[02:42] <Marcelo> entonces
[02:42] <Kirby904> or do i put to in the middle or something
[02:42] <Marcelo> hablemos en espaol
[02:42] <morbid88> so do I insmod it? what files do I do that to?
[02:43] <lupine_85> morbid88: did you remove the current ieee80211 module first?
[02:43] <gepatino> Marcelo: join #ubuntu-es
[02:43] <Marcelo> ok
[02:43] <lupine_85> and just "sudo modprobe ieee80211_1_1_13" seems to do the trick
[02:43] <bruenig> UKMatt, sorry left for a second, it was in pool, and then some other subdirectories
[02:43] <morbid88> lupine_85: did that, says module not found. I tried it for 80211.1.1.13 too.
[02:43] <linuchsan> Kirby904: is ok, but watch the spaces
[02:44] <lupine_85> ok, can you 'cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13' ?
[02:44] <Kirby904> ok =] 
[02:44] <morbid88> yes, I can
[02:44] <morbid88> it's an empty dir
[02:45] <lupine_85> ah... strange
[02:45] <lupine_85> what is your kernel version?
[02:45] <lupine_85> (I'm looking at 2.6.15-26-386)
[02:45] <morbid88> 2.6.15-26
[02:45] <morbid88> -386, yes
[02:45] <morbid88> I'm running Dapper.
[02:45] <lupine_85> yep, me too
[02:45] <liquidten2> azureal: Just take note that you will DEFINITELY need kernel headers of at least /some/ version on your machine, and that the kernel headers package contains several hundreds of files in /usr/include/linux that are critical to compiling software.  They don't have to match yoru kernel version, they can be earlier or later, but they MUST be there.(Preferably they should be the exact same version as what glibc was built against)
[02:46] <morbid88> I tried with Edgy but that just drove me nuts. I thought I'd fall back to a more well-tested version.
[02:46] <Zorlac> can anyone tell m e what exactly "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M" does?
[02:46] <Dutchy> morbid88: did you try to remove it and install a new version? i did that at first too, fixed by reistalling ubuntu lol
[02:46] <lupine_85> Zorlac: writes zeros right across /dev/hda
[02:46] <Zorlac> lupine_85: thanks
[02:46] <liquidten2> Zorlac: Completely deletes the hard drive and writes zeros entirely accross /de/vhda.
[02:46] <Dutchy> i accidently removed ieee80211 :P
[02:46] <Zorlac> perfect =3
[02:46] <azureal> liquidten2, ok, i just have two header files right now, 2.6.15 and .17, but i'll leave both just in case
[02:47] <lupine_85> morbid88: not really sure what to suggest here. I suppose I could tarball the directory and send it to you
[02:47] <lupine_85> Dutchy: the 1.1.13 version?
[02:47] <liquidten2> azureal: The headers are only about 4MB, and all it does is take up HD space, so it's not really critical to have two versions installed.
[02:47] <liquidten2> azureal: So you should be fine.
[02:47] <morbid88> lupine_85: let me try installing 80211.1.1.15 and see what it says.
[02:47] <lupine_85> ok
[02:48] <techlife> does anyone know if there is a specific automatic package for edubuntu or can I just use the one for dapper?
[02:48] <Dutchy> lupine_85: yeah :P that was earlier today... not now :)
[02:48] <riko> hi, can anyone tell me howto search for wireless networks in ubuntu?
[02:48] <hondje> techlife: edubuntu-desktop is the metapkg to install it
[02:48] <lupine_85> phew :)
[02:48] <lupine_85> riko: sudo iwlist <interface> scan
[02:48] <lupine_85> Dutchy: any luck with the ipw3945d stuff?
[02:49] <riko> lupine_85: thx... there's no gui interface?
[02:49] <Dutchy> yes and no
[02:49] <dash_> how do I make sure all aspects of a program are deleted again?
[02:49] <Dutchy> i already did the ipw3945d, but step 3 doesnt work
[02:49] <techlife> hondje, I'm not sure i'm following you...please explain
[02:49] <Dutchy> although i dont think its a problem
[02:49] <lupine_85> riko: network-manager would probably do the trick
[02:49] <linuchsan> riko:swscanner
[02:49] <Flannel> dash_: --purge for apt-get, "remove completely" for synaptic
[02:49] <hondje> techlife: Misread your question, nvm.
[02:49] <lupine_85> Dutchy: step3 shouldn't be needed
[02:50] <riko> lupine_85: right now it's trying to connect to an old connection that's no longer valid... how do i stop it?
[02:50] <lupine_85> so anything useful in your dmesg now?
[02:50] <morbid88> lupine_85: I've run make and make install, now I have in my modules directory just a ieee80211 directory with some .ko files in it.
[02:50] <morbid88> no version number.
[02:50] <dash_> I installed Azureus 2.4.0.2 via apt a bit ago, but it doesn't work, so I amtrying to remove it and install 2.5.0.0, but it doesn't seem to want to update itself
[02:50] <Dutchy> lupine_85: kill switch still on
[02:50] <Dutchy> im gonna check my laptop's manual again
[02:50] <lupine_85> morbid88: does modinfo ieee80211.ko give you a version?
[02:50] <lupine_85> Dutchy: that does seemt to be the problem
[02:51] <morbid88> sure does. 1.2.15
[02:51] <riko> lupine_85: right now it's trying to connect to an old connection that's no longer valid... and the scan says it can't find anything...
[02:51] <lupine_85> moprbid88: cool. rmmod your current ieee80211 modules then
[02:51] <linuchsan> dash_:reinstall
[02:51] <morbid88> so, wait, rmmod after all this?
[02:51] <morbid88> I thought I finally got it there!
[02:51] <stevewillson> I'm trying to play an mpeg movie and totem movie player says that I need to install a mpeg decoder, anyone know where I can get that?
[02:51] <lupine_85> morbid88: you need to get rid of the old instance of the module *in memory*
[02:51] <lupine_85> then reload the new module
[02:51] <dash_> linuchsan: thats what I am trying to do, but its not being happy about it
[02:52] <morbid88> ha. Well, it says it's in use by ipw3945
[02:52] <lupine_85> you'll need to get unload the ipw one as well :)
[02:52] <lupine_85> it's not a problem
[02:52] <linuchsan> dash_:what is the error?
[02:52] <liquidten2> morbid88: MAKE sure that you run "sudo /sbin/depmod" before you try to modprobe again.
[02:52] <lupine_85> so sudo rmmod ipw3945 ieee80211
[02:52] <lupine_85> then depmod -a, yes
[02:52] <lupine_85> Did the new ieee802111 overwrite the current one?
[02:53] <lupine_85> (talking about directories here)
[02:53] <dash_> linuchsan: any window that pops up with an error, like the "shutdown tidily" one, etc, crashes the program
[02:53] <Dutchy> lupine_85: could the wlan card interpret not receiving a signal the same as the kill switch being on?
[02:53] <linuchsan> dash_:thus...reinstall
[02:53] <morbid88> lupine_85: yes, I think the new one overwrote the old one. Well, it actually eliminated the old one.
[02:53] <dash_> I did, and nothing changed, not even the version numbers
[02:54] <lupine_85> Dutchy: not really sure. Maybe it only check on module load
[02:54] <morbid88> lupine_85: okay, I rmmod and depmod but I got no feedback.
[02:54] <lupine_85> so unload, then reload :)
[02:54] <dash_> also, the error windows persist after the program is closed
[02:54] <morbid88> insmod?
[02:54] <lupine_85> morbid88: you should be fine to just modprobe ipw3945
[02:54] <CromagDK> !mp3
[02:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <linuchsan> dash_:yes i now!
[02:54] <linuchsan> dash_:know
[02:54] <lupine_85> that ought to pull in ieee80211 automatically
[02:54] <Kirby904> AHHHHH so much trouble installing java LOL, can anyone make the bot talk to me again?
[02:54] <morbid88> errors inserting ieee80211.
[02:54] <itodd_> gnome-theme-manager crashes when i load it. i have done nothing but install xgl/compiz since installing ubuntu. any ideas?
[02:54] <Kirby904> !tell Kirby904 about java
[02:55] <lupine_85> what sort of errors? :(
[02:55] <lupine_85> (rmmod and depmod don't give feedback if all goes well, btw)
[02:55] <morbid88> well, dmesg says: disagree about version of symbol ieee80211_crypt_quiescing and every other crypt along the way.
[02:56] <hondje> aren't insmod and rmmod deprecated?
[02:56] <lupine_85> hondje: sort of
[02:56] <lupine_85> still useful in many circumstances though
[02:56] <^Down> Is there a way to enable it so i can see folders that start with a "."?
[02:56] <morbid88> but you have to learn the basics before you can use the big boy tools.
[02:56] <lupine_85> like ifconfig, really :)
[02:56] <Telroth> ^Down, ls -a
[02:56] <^Down> Thanks
[02:56] <matthewjames> hello, how do I change the permissions for the folders in /opt/?
[02:57] <lupine_85> morbid88: where did you get the ieee80211 from ?
[02:57] <devilz> hi can grub have 800x600 resolution?
[02:57] <Telroth> matthewjames, sudo chmod
[02:57] <itodd_> is it possible to change the icon theme without using gnome-theme-manager?
[02:57] <matthewjames> but it wont let me cd to the directory
[02:57] <morbid88> lupine_85: I really don't remember anymore. I think there was a man in a trenchcoat.
[02:57] <Dutchy> lupine_85: how do i stop ipw3945 and activate it again? maybe i have to reactivate it now that i moved the switch
[02:57] <Telroth> devilz, it can have 1280x1024 (i've seen a livecd use that before, not sure how to set it)
[02:57] <lupine_85> Dutchy: rmmod the module again
[02:57] <lupine_85> then modprobe it
[02:57] <matthewjames> Telroth: it wont let me cd to the directory
[02:57] <devilz> Telroth, u sure?
[02:58] <lupine_85> morbid88: do you want me to send you over this .13 one ?
[02:58] <Dutchy> ERROR: Module ipw3945 is in use
[02:58] <Telroth> matthewjames, does the directory exist and is it readable by the user you are executing cd from?
[02:58] <morbid88> lupine_85: I'm pretty sure this one came from sourceforge.
[02:58] <Telroth> brb
[02:58] <matthewjames> yes, but it says im not owner
[02:59] <Dutchy> lupine_85: btw, i just saw that eth1 now shows up
[02:59] <matthewjames> Telroth: yes, but it says im not owner
[02:59] <liquidten2> Dutchy: well chances are that is your device then.
[03:00] <Dutchy> yay it shows up in networking!
[03:00] <chuckyp> irssi rocks
[03:00] <matthewjames> telroth?
[03:00] <Dutchy> chuckyp: tru dat
[03:00] <chuckyp> Dutchy: i'm using it in windows now and it still rocks
[03:00] <Kirby904> ok what was that apt-get command for java?
[03:00] <chuckyp> Dutchy: just need to find some good channels now
[03:00] <Dutchy> #ubuntu on freenode :P
[03:00] <Kirby904> sudo apt-get something =O
[03:01] <Dutchy> oh wait you're there :P
[03:01] <matthewjames> hey, how do i edit folder permissions, when it says im not the owner
[03:01] <Telroth> Kirby904, sudo apt-get install sun-java-something
[03:01] <CromagDK> Kirby904:
[03:01] <Kirby904> llol
[03:01] <Kirby904> i know that far
[03:01] <liquidten2> matthewjames: You cannot edit a folder's permissions if you are not the owner.
[03:01] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sudo apt-get install sun-java5.jre
[03:01] <CromagDK> gah
[03:01] <matthewjames> i am though lol
[03:01] <CromagDK> npo
[03:01] <Linuturk> we have spam bots on the ubuntu forums, who needs to know about this?
[03:01] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[03:01] <matthewjames> i installed it through root
[03:01] <CromagDK> there
[03:01] <Jamminpotato> ubuntu wont detect my NIC card on my second computer =/ like i installed ubuntu and it cant find the NIC
[03:02] <Kirby904> OMG
[03:02] <Kirby904> it cant find it
[03:02] <lupine_85_new> ok, I'm back
[03:02] <Kirby904> w t f
[03:02] <sfp> !tell automatic login
[03:02] <CromagDK> Kirby904: and you did the multiverse in the sources.list ?
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell automatic login - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <chuckyp> Kirby904: apt-cache search sun-java
[03:02] <CromagDK> Kirby904: and you did the sudo apt-get update ?
[03:02] <Linuturk> we have spam bots on the ubuntu forums, who needs to know about this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252444
[03:02] <chuckyp> Kirby904: also you need to enable universe I believe to install java
[03:02] <Kirby904> AHHHH everyones talking to me at 1 time
[03:02] <Kirby904> i did the update
[03:02] <Hazarath> Ok, all kind of problems.
[03:02] <Kirby904> i enabled all universe
[03:02] <sfp> how can i set remote desktop to be active at the login screen?
[03:02] <Hazarath> Natilus may be dead, need help.
[03:02] <Kirby904> no multiverse
[03:02] <liquidten2> matthewjames: try running "sudo bash" and then cd'ing into /opt
[03:03] <CromagDK> Kirby904: read what the bot is telling you
[03:03] <Kirby904> because multiverse isnt that "Not Free"?
[03:03] <matthewjames> kk, ty
[03:03] <Kirby904> well the bot didnt tell me anything useful
[03:03] <Kirby904> he said go to the website...
[03:03] <CromagDK> it says multiverse
[03:03] <Kirby904> !tell Kirby904 about java
[03:03] <nownott> is there a alternative to vmware
[03:03] <CromagDK> i just installed it
[03:03] <Kirby904> ok
[03:03] <Hazarath> Can't browse, right click on my desktop, XChat randomly closes... all kind of stuff.
[03:03] <CromagDK> nownott: xen
[03:03] <chuckyp> nownott: qemu
[03:03] <CromagDK> heh
[03:03] <sfp> !automatic login
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatic login - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Dutchy> now that i have my device, im far from done :( now to get access to my university's huge WLAN
[03:04] <matthewjames> what chmode is everyone can write?
[03:04] <barata> guys, where to get mplayer binaries?
[03:04] <CromagDK> 777
[03:04] <azureal> chmod a+w
[03:04] <Hazarath> Anyone can help?
[03:04] <matthewjames> k
[03:04] <chuckyp> barata: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:04] <morbid88> lupine_85: any thoughts on what to do next?
[03:04] <azureal> although you may like gmplayer
[03:04] <aSt3raL> im trying to use kimagemapeditor and everything is greyed out
[03:04] <lupine_85> morbid88: I've been offline for the past few minutes
[03:05] <lupine_85> as in, really offline :(
[03:05] <morbid88> I know, I've been waiting :)
[03:05] <lupine_85> are you still trying to load ieee80211?
[03:05] <CromagDK> nownott: dont know
[03:05] <Kirby904> alright multi is enabled
[03:05] <Kirby904> lets see
[03:05] <Hazarath> Can't browse, right click on my desktop, XChat randomly closes... all kind of stuff.
[03:05] <CromagDK> Kirby904: now sudo apt-get update
[03:05] <morbid88> I think I'm stil trying to load it, yes.
[03:05] <Telroth> Kirby904, http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/java.jspx
[03:06] <riko> can i upgrade my ubuntu 5 to 6.06 from the live cd?
[03:06] <Telroth> riko, apt-get is easier
[03:06] <Telroth> i think you can if you don't have internet though
[03:06] <CromagDK> apt-get dist-upgrade right ?
[03:06] <lupine_85> ok, there's a possibility that the error message you were getting was because there was still a module loaded
[03:06] <lupine_85> so lsmod and see if there's anything suspicious listed
[03:06] <morbid88> right, I got an unknown symbol in the ieee80211 module.
[03:06] <CromagDK> Kirby904: so ?
[03:06] <Kirby904> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[03:06] <Kirby904>  -.-
[03:06] <Hazarath> Telroth, morbid88, anyone... what's going on with my system? o.o;;;;
[03:06] <CromagDK> Kirby904: you updated ?
[03:06] <riko> it's upgrading right now, i just was wondering if i couold do it cos i already have the cd donwloaded and my internet only dl's at like 40 kb/sec
[03:06] <lupine_85> riko: apt-cdrom to add the CD; then remove your current repos; then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:07] <brendonjt> kia ora  all
[03:07] <Kirby904> wait wait
[03:07] <riko> aaah
[03:07] <Kirby904> dist-upgrade???
[03:07] <riko> lupine_85: thanks
[03:07] <Kirby904> wtf
[03:07] <CromagDK> Kirby904: NO!
[03:07] <Telroth> Hazarath, have you tried rebooting ?
[03:07] <Kirby904> o ok
[03:07] <Telroth> Kirby904, http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/java.jspx
[03:07] <Kirby904> ok one sec tel
[03:07] <CromagDK> Kirby904: apt-get update
[03:07] <mortal5> guys, some console programs like mc have stupid weird chars in them
[03:07] <Kirby904> i just did
[03:07] <Hazarath> Telroth, Ya... Will again.
[03:07] <Telroth> CromagDK, the sun jvm isn't in the multiverse
[03:07] <morbid88> lupine_85: I had iee80211_crypt running, so I rmmod that.
[03:07] <CromagDK> Telroth: i just installed it
[03:07] <riko> lupine_85: how do i remove the current repos?
[03:07] <weswh-> what's the best option for search? beagle?
[03:07] <lakcaj> Hello.  I did a dist-upgrade to edgy and now when I should get a login screen I get weird colors moving about the screen.  Anyone else experience this?
[03:07] <CromagDK> Telroth: 5 mins ago
[03:07] <morbid88> Now I tried modprobe again with ipw3945 and it's giving me a new error.
[03:08] <chuckyp> !tell morbid88 about codecs
[03:08] <CromagDK> Telroth: ok thats a lie 20 mins ago
[03:08] <weswh-> something that is indexing...mac os x spotlight is the icon in that respect
[03:08] <Telroth> CromagDK, nomorepaste your sources.list
[03:08] <lupine_85> riko: comment them out(#) in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:08] <itodd_> gnome-theme-manager crashes when i load it. i have done nothing but install xgl/compiz since installing ubuntu. any ideas? i've tried re-installing gnome-themes but to no avail
[03:08] <Kirby904> are u sure its called sun-java5-jre
[03:08] <CromagDK> nomorepaste ?
[03:08] <lupine_85> morbid88: anything helpful?
[03:08] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sec..
[03:08] <Telroth> nomorepasting.com
[03:08] <Kirby904> ok
[03:08] <riko> lupine_85: it's that simple? okay imma try
[03:08] <morbid88> It gives an unknown symbol in module ipw3945.ko
[03:08] <brendonjt> hey when i am in terminal and i have updates wot is the command to get the updates with apt-get???
[03:08] <lupine_85> riko: run apt-get update before you apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:08] <Telroth> CromagDK, i have multiverse on for dapper and it's showing nothing for sun & java
[03:09] <chuckyp> itodd_: you can't use theme manager with xgl/compiz
[03:09] <CromagDK> sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
[03:09] <chuckyp> itodd_: you need to use cwgd or whatever.
[03:09] <riko> lupine_85: okay... will i need to re-install my wireless (running thru ndiswrapper) ?
[03:09] <CromagDK> Telroth: hmm ok ?
[03:09] <lupine_85> morbid88: does it say which symbol it is?
[03:09] <lupine_85> riko: hopefully not
[03:09] <Telroth> brendonjt, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:09] <Kirby904> actually
[03:09] <CromagDK> !tell CromagDK about java
[03:09] <Kirby904> im gonna do what Telroth said
[03:09] <Kirby904> that website
[03:09] <lupine_85> any changes like that will only happen after  reboot though
[03:09] <itodd_> chuckyp, what is cwgd?
[03:09] <CromagDK> CromagDK wants you to know: java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:09] <brendonjt> telroth: i thought it was
[03:09] <CromagDK> then someone have to update
[03:10] <chuckyp> brendonjt: you could actually use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:10] <riko> lupine_85: cos i only have wireless connection nothing wired
[03:10] <Dutchy> lupine_85: can you give a quick look at this http://www.snt.utwente.nl/handleidingen/linux/wlan_linux.php ? i've been told its slightly different in ubuntu
[03:10] <morbid88> lupine_5: let me check dmesg
[03:10] <Telroth> CromagDK, i just did update, not 2 minutes ago
[03:10] <lupine_85> riko: it's  a bit of a risk
[03:10] <CromagDK> Telroth: weird... dapper ?
[03:10] <riko> lupine_85: aight imma give it a shot.. thx!
[03:10] <chuckyp> itodd_: I dunno ifyou read the xgl/compiz section it eh wiki it explains that you need to use something close to that name for themes.  Because xgl/compiz will not work with gnome-theme-magnager
[03:10] <brendonjt> chuckyp: if i did the dis-upgrade wouldn't it upgrade me to eadgy??
[03:11] <chuckyp> brendonjt: only if you changed your sources.list to edgy repos.
[03:11] <itodd_> chuckyp, i'm going to read it right now
[03:11] <lupine_85> Dutchy: that's for getting WPA running
[03:11] <brendonjt> ae ok isee lol  not all with it today
[03:11] <lupine_85> only useful once you've got a working interface :)
[03:11] <morbid88> lupine_85: it's a problem with ieee80211_crypt. It's saying disagree about version of symbol for a bunch of crypt modules.
[03:11] <Dutchy> lupine_85: i think my interface works :>
[03:11] <lupine_85> Dutchy: cool!
[03:11] <shut-> cya all
[03:11] <shut-> night
[03:11] <CromagDK> nn
[03:11] <morbid88> dutchy: congrats
[03:12] <Dutchy> it shows up in networking
[03:12] <lupine_85> so iwconfig gives you a wireless interface?
[03:12] <lupine_85> Yay!
[03:12] <Dutchy> yes
[03:12] <lupine_85> morbid88: do you want these .13 modules ?
[03:12] <lupine_85> they seem to do the trick :)
[03:12] <lupine_85> I've no idea why they aren't on yours by default, TBH
[03:12] <CromagDK> Telroth: im not regged..
[03:13] <chiefinnovator> What's the boot option to turn off the splash screen on the installer?
[03:13] <Frostbiteh2o> I have a question about installation.
[03:13] <CromagDK> Telroth: just add multiverse to the line where dapper universe is
[03:13] <Dutchy> lupine_85: i think he has the same problem i had earlier today... i tried installing a new version which removed the old ones first, installing the new ones gave an error (my best guess)
[03:13] <morbid88> lupine_85: It's probably 'cos I've been messing around with it.
[03:13] <CromagDK> Telroth: im not regged so cant answer you..
[03:13] <lupine_85> Dutchy: how did you fix it?
[03:13] <mortal5> someone tell me how to make my term stop looking like this http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stupidcharspn5.png
[03:13] <morbid88> so I'll try the old ones, if it works it works, right?
[03:13] <chiefinnovator> boot option to turn off splash screen on installer? Any ideas?
[03:14] <Dutchy> lupine_85: reinstalled ubuntu, was a fresh install anyway for me... sorry cant help there :)
[03:14] <CromagDK> Telroth: out here :D
[03:14] <lupine_85> morbid88: I guess you could try deleting that ieee80211 directory and run apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`
[03:14] <lupine_85> that might do the trick
[03:14] <chiefinnovator> Where do I get a list of boot options then?  This really should be documented somewhere
[03:14] <morbid88> whoa, slow down there, lupine.
[03:14] <morbid88> Just delete the directory?
[03:14] <morbid88> just like that?
[03:14] <lupine_85> well, you just created it
[03:15] <morbid88> I ran an install script.
[03:15] <chiefinnovator> Guys, actually this is kind of critical
[03:15] <riko> uhm
[03:15] <lupine_85> reinstalling the linux-image package will restore it
[03:15] <riko> lupine_85: all it did was upgrade ndiswrapper-utils
[03:15] <PhillipElHaxor> anyone run rtorrent from command line?
[03:15] <chiefinnovator> I need an answer or my computer's gonna die
[03:15] <chiefinnovator> see my battery is almost dead
[03:15] <CromagDK> Telroth: fixed it ?
[03:15] <chiefinnovator> and I'm not near an outlet
[03:15] <Frostbiteh2o> is there any way for me to resize the install windows while installing, so that i can actually see the whole window, because it wants to have my monitor in the lowest resolution and i can't change it
[03:15] <PhillipElHaxor> chief?
[03:15] <Telroth> CromagDK, yes, thanks
[03:15] <CromagDK> chiefinnovator: invent wireless power!
[03:15] <CromagDK> Telroth: np :
[03:15] <CromagDK> :)
[03:15] <morbid88> so I delete the module directory?
[03:15] <chiefinnovator> I'm at 5%!
[03:15] <lupine_85> morbid88: here we are. /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13/ieee80211_1_1_13.ko is in linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[03:15] <morbid88> cromagDK: didn't thinkgeek do that in april?
[03:16] <CromagDK> morbid88: hah ye :P
[03:16] <Telroth> CromagDK, wireless power was on thinkgeek.com as a april fools
[03:16] <chiefinnovator> Guys, I just need the boot option, does no one know?
[03:16] <lupine_85> morbid88: delete the ieee80211 directory that was created/overwritten, yes
[03:16] <Telroth> it was pretty sweet
[03:16] <CromagDK> morbid88: quote a laugh :D
[03:16] <lupine_85> then run sudo depmod -a
[03:16] <CromagDK> quite
[03:16] <PhillipElHaxor> for grub, chief?
[03:16] <chiefinnovator> PhillipElHaxor, no the installer
[03:16] <lupine_85> then sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`
[03:16] <chiefinnovator> the live CD
[03:16] <PhillipElHaxor> what do you mean boot option?
[03:16] <CromagDK> !codecs
[03:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <riko> lupine_85: i did everything u told me and all it did was update ndiswrapper?
[03:16] <FrogstarScout> calling sethk or chuckyp: you guys still around?
[03:17] <chiefinnovator> boot option, the thing you tell the live CD to do when it starts up like no apic
[03:17] <lupine_85> (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211.ko is also in the linux-image package)
[03:17] <chiefinnovator> 3% power and falling
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor> oh
[03:17] <lupine_85> riko: shouldn't do
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor> crap
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor> um
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor> F1?
[03:17] <morbid88> lupine_85: I'm gonna try that now. bbiab
[03:17] <chiefinnovator> --flash?
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor> no
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor> F8
[03:17] <lupine_85> k
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor>  i think
[03:17] <chiefinnovator> --noflash?
[03:17] <PhillipElHaxor> I don't know what that does
[03:18] <chiefinnovator> Here's the page that told me about bootoptions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:18] <chiefinnovator> But it doesn't list the flash one
[03:18] <PhillipElHaxor> i'm afraid
[03:18] <chiefinnovator> Are all the boot options documented somewhere maybe?
[03:18] <PhillipElHaxor> i don't know what flash does
[03:18] <lupine_85> good luck Dutchy :)
[03:18] <PhillipElHaxor> i'll try a quick search
[03:18] <chiefinnovator> In KNot2 there's an issue with the splash
[03:18] <chiefinnovator> I'm so sorry, I meant splash screen
[03:18] <FrogstarScout> chuckyp: i have hwinfo installed and have looked at the output
[03:19] <draggor> Hello!  I went to update my system, and adept got removed.  When I try to reinstall it, I get this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22784  I'm running Kubuntu 5.10
[03:19] <PhillipElHaxor> i got nothing
[03:19] <FrogstarScout> hwinfo --sound returns nothing
[03:19] <morbid88> lupine_85: okay, I'm getting the ... what am I getting? Is that the kernel?
[03:19] <PhillipElHaxor> sorry
[03:19] <chiefinnovator> There's an issue in knot2 with the splash screen
[03:19] <Kirby904> OMG that took f long to install just java lol
[03:19] <lupine_85> riko: so you ran apt-cdrom with the cd in the drive; then you edited /etc/apt/sources.list, leaving just the line about the dapper cd; then you ran sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:19] <FrogstarScout> but i did find the places where it is defined
[03:19] <Kirby904> i got it tho =] 
[03:19] <CromagDK> Kirby904: then do what ur told ;)
[03:19] <lupine_85> morbid88: yes
[03:19] <lupine_85> the kernel and associated modules
[03:19] <FrogstarScout> and the message in the kernel log where it tried to load
[03:20] <chiefinnovator> Ok, well the default boot options say splash, I'll just remove that
[03:20] <morbid88> ok.
[03:20] <chiefinnovator> 1%
[03:20] <Kirby904> thanks guys for excellent support =] 
[03:20] <CromagDK> Kirby904: anyways, it works
[03:20] <PhillipElHaxor> does anyone know how to install rtorrent?  "apt-get install rtorrent" says it can't find the package
[03:20] <lupine_85> (it'll just overwrite your current lot, which is not a problem)
[03:20] <Kirby904> yeah
[03:20] <CromagDK> good
[03:20] <fatbrain> What should I install to get an embeded video player working in Firefox?
[03:20] <chiefinnovator> Bye guys, it's been nice, PhillipElHaxor thanks for th
[03:20] <Kirby904> had to enable a repository from a website
[03:20] <lupine_85> !mplayer
[03:20] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[03:20] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:20] <FrogstarScout> chuckyp: if you'd like to see what they say i can post to some spot
[03:20] <Telroth> Kirby904, the sun java stuff is in the multiverse
[03:20] <Kirby904> o
[03:20] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: try hwinfo --sound | less
[03:20] <Telroth> and now that i've added multiverse, i'd recommend it
[03:20] <CromagDK> Telroth: it works for him ;)
[03:20] <Telroth> because you'll get updates
[03:21] <Telroth> :P
[03:21] <CromagDK> Kirby904: use synaptics
[03:21] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: that should show you what module its trying.
[03:21] <FrogstarScout> yeah it returns nothing to less
[03:21] <Kirby904> well i dont need further help java installing at the moment
[03:21] <CromagDK> Kirby904: then add and "custom"
[03:21] <lupine_85> fatbrain: mozilla-mplayer
[03:21] <draggor> Can anyone help with my adept issue?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22784  it ends up depending on a virtual package that doesn't really point to anything.
[03:21] <tc_> can someone pls tell me how do i remove the cd icon that shows up on my desktop when i put a cd into the drive...i dont want the icon to ever show on desktop?
[03:21] <lupine_85> !mozilla-mplayer
[03:21] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[03:21] <AbortD> is there a windows emulator for ubuntu?
[03:21] <morbid88> mp3 don't play out of the box because it's a restricted format?
[03:21] <Telroth> qemu
[03:21] <Kirby904> ... it is currently installing
[03:21] <chuckyp> AbortD: what are you trying to do?
[03:21] <Telroth> AbortD, qemu
[03:21] <tc_> get easyubuntu
[03:21] <tc_> can someone pls tell me how do i remove the cd icon that shows up on my desktop when i put a cd into the drive...i dont want the icon to ever show on desktop?
[03:21] <lupine_85> AbortD: wine? Or are you after something more like vmware or qemu?
[03:21] <AbortD> chuckyp: trying to play ultima online :)
[03:21] <Kirby904> 71% [4 sun-java5-bin 20863731/22.1MB 94%] 
[03:21] <Kirby904> =] 
[03:21] <bruenig> morbid88, right, ubuntu doesn't support proprietary formats out of the box
[03:21] <lupine_85> AbortD: try wine
[03:21] <Telroth> tc_, kde or gnome?
[03:22] <AbortD> wine would be the best for it?
[03:22] <tc_> telroth gnome
[03:22] <fatbrain> lupine_85: thanks.
[03:22] <FrogstarScout> chuckyp: im sure it's because it doesn't load successfully
[03:22] <morbid88> Huh. Should say that on the ackage.
[03:22] <chuckyp> tc_: edit /etc/fstab and comment out the line that is auto mounting the cds is one way but you'll have tomount them manually then.
[03:22] <tc_> i basically dont ever want a icon on my desktop
[03:22] <Telroth> tc_, can't help you, sorry :(
[03:22] <riko> lupine_85: can i upgrade from the live cd or i have to do it from the alternate?
[03:22] <tc_> o ok
[03:22] <AbortD> lupine_85: where can  i find wine?"
[03:22] <tc_> thanx anyways
[03:22] <lupine_85> riko: live cd should be fine
[03:22] <lupine_85> !wine
[03:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:22] <tc_> to find wine google it hahahaha
[03:22] <tc_> jezz
[03:22] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: well if thats the case you can check dmesg  to see if its throwing any errors when the module is loading.
[03:22] <Telroth> chuckyp, i think he still wants automount, just doesn't like the desktop icons
[03:22] <riko> lupine_85: so then why isn't it working?
[03:22] <chuckyp> FrogstarScout: but that card should just work.
[03:22] <PhillipElHaxor> seriously why is it this difficult to get rtorrent?
[03:22] <lupine_85> I've no idea, sorry
[03:22] <bruenig> AbortD, wine allows you to run windows programs in linux by setting up a windows compatibility layer, but (Wine Is Not an Emulator)
[03:22] <tc_> telroth yes i want auto mount jus no icons
[03:22] <CromagDK> Apps -> Nautilus -> Desktop
[03:22] <CromagDK> Uncheck the option "Volumes Visible"
[03:23] <lupine_85> !worksforme, I guess
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worksforme, I guess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <chuckyp> tc_: No idea
[03:23] <CromagDK> might work
[03:23] <FrogstarScout> it is throwing a message hwinfo showed me that in the kernel log section
[03:23] <morbid88> okay.... lupine_85, it's finished with the kernel, and now it's prompting me for a restart. I guess I should do that, right?
[03:23] <chuckyp> tc_: there must be some sort of script that is doing that.
[03:23] <AbortD> bruenig: compatibility layer?
[03:23] <CromagDK> tc_:
[03:23] <CromagDK> Apps -> Nautilus -> Desktop
[03:23] <CromagDK> Uncheck the option "Volumes Visible"
[03:23] <morbid88> (why didn't I do this three days ago...?)
[03:23] <chuckyp> tc_: or plugin
[03:23] <chuckyp> tc there ya go
[03:23] <lupine_85> morbid88: probably best (although technically no need to, it'll make sure there's no trace of those other ieee modules)
[03:23] <tc_> i dont got nautilus in apps?
[03:23] <morbid88> okay, I'll do it right quickly.
[03:23] <tc_> never mind
[03:23] <bruenig> AbortD, yeah sets up a similar directory structure with appropriate dlls and such
[03:24] <CromagDK> no sorry
[03:24] <CromagDK> my ba
[03:24] <CromagDK> bad
[03:24] <CromagDK> tc_: sec..
[03:24] <AbortD> hm so it will run it at a good speed and wont lag graphics and such?
[03:24] <draggor> Anyone know how to make libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.10 work?
[03:24] <draggor> I cannot apt-get it
[03:24] <tc_> kk
[03:24] <draggor> and I need it to make adept work
[03:24] <CromagDK> tc_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32325
[03:24] <tc_> thanx for the help..i have my compiz etc all setup lovely jus them 2 damn icons r annoying me
[03:24] <chuckyp> draggor: adept should work out of the box
[03:24] <tc_> CromagDK ty
[03:25] <draggor> Chuckyp: I went to update and it removed itself
[03:25] <CromagDK> tc_: np if it works
[03:25] <tc_> k be back in a few mins :P
[03:25] <chuckyp> draggor: well you can add it back doesn't if have a package like sudo apt-get install adept
[03:25] <CromagDK> kk
[03:25] <linuchsan> draggor:libapt-rpm-pkg-libc6.3-6-0
[03:26] <AbortD> how do i add a repository?
[03:26] <AbortD> wants me to add winehq repository?
[03:27] <lupine_85> AbortD: you can do it in Synaptic, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <bayzider> can some one help me install sun java so i can use limewire
[03:27] <CromagDK> bayzider: sec
[03:27] <lupine_85> wine is generally pretty fast :)
[03:27] <CromagDK> !tell bayzider about java
[03:27] <tc_> CromagDK it worked...your a legend thanx man
[03:27] <AbortD> lupine_85: thanks
[03:27] <CromagDK> tc_: im a n00b man hehe
[03:27] <CromagDK> :P
[03:27] <morbid88> lupine_85: I'm back, and ieee80211 is running, as well as crypt.
[03:27] <tc_> lmfao
[03:28] <tc_> to me your a god
[03:28] <tc_> :)
[03:28] <lupine_85> morbid88: ok, rmmod the lot of them
[03:28] <CromagDK> i just installed Ubuntu today
[03:28] <lupine_85> (including ipw3945 if it's there)
[03:28] <morbid88> it's not.
[03:28] <lupine_85> ok
[03:28] <lupine_85> then modprobe ieee80211_1_1_13
[03:28] <lupine_85> (with sudo, obviously)
[03:29] <morbid88> okay. no feedback, we said that's good, right?
[03:29] <lupine_85> check that the modules are loaded ok (lsmod)
[03:29] <lupine_85> but no feedback is good
[03:29] <lupine_85> if everything's OK, modprobe ipw3945
[03:29] <lupine_85> (sudo again)
[03:29] <Wicked_> alright, so I screwed my xserver up or something, is there anyway to debug it to see whats wrong?
[03:30] <morbid88> ok, let's do this. *gulp*
[03:30] <hondje> Wicked_: look in /var/lob/Xorg.0.log
[03:30] <lupine_85> hehe
[03:30] <hondje> er, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:30] <morbid88> drat
[03:30] <lupine_85> what's it say?
[03:30] <morbid88> same thing.
[03:30] <lupine_85> missing symbol?
[03:31] <morbid88> hmmm. A problem with 80211
[03:31] <draggor> linuchsan:  libapt-rpm-pkg-libc6.3-6-0 does not exist, however 3-5-0 does.  I installed it and still get this error when I try to install adept: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22784
[03:31] <brian98> god darn it..
[03:31] <morbid88> wait a sec now I've got both 80211 AND 80211_1_1_13
[03:32] <AbortD> !wine
[03:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:32] <lupine_85> that's not good :(
[03:32] <lupine_85> ok, rmmod the lot of them again
[03:32] <morbid88> doesn't sound good.
[03:32] <lupine_85> then we'll do this manually with insmod
[03:32] <linuchsan> draggor:not running dapper?
[03:32] <draggor> linuchsan:  No, breezy
[03:33] <Kirby904> !tell Kirby904 about java
[03:33] <draggor> linuchsan: Tried dapper, and it was a dismal failure on this machine.
[03:33] <morbid88> okay, done.
[03:33] <Kirby904> lol needed the site
[03:33] <tjb891> does anyone know how to tell firestarter to activate on startup?
[03:33] <Symgeosis> tj9991, gnome-session
[03:33] <Symgeosis> System -> Preferences -> Session
[03:33] <lupine_85> ok, first cd to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13
[03:34] <CromagDK> !flash
[03:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <lupine_85> then sudo insmod ieee80211_1_1_13_crypt.ko
[03:34] <tjb891> thx and does anyone know what "block broadcasts from external network" means in technical language?
[03:34] <erpo> tjb891: In order to get any program to start when the system starts, you need to get a start/stop type script into /etc/init.d/ and some links to it with the proper names in /etc/rc5.d/
[03:34] <lupine_85> then sudo insmod /ieee80211_1_1_13.ko
[03:34] <Wicked_> ok, I've gotten Xorg.0.log, but have no idea what to look for >_>
[03:34] <lupine_85> erm, without the /
[03:35] <erpo> What's the minimum set of software I have to install to get a virtual desktop switcher with an up-to-date live preview?
[03:35] <lupine_85> tjb891: generally a good thing
[03:35] <hondje> Wicked_: Lines that start with (EE) usually mean 'here we died'
[03:35] <lupine_85> might break multicast a bit though
[03:35] <tjb891> but what is it, what is it blocking
[03:35] <morbid88> hmmm. I've got both ieee80211 and ieee80211_1_1_13 in that directory.
[03:35] <Wicked_> alright, thanks
[03:35] <lupine_85> that's ok - because we're using the .ko names directly, it'll load the right ones
[03:35] <lupine_85> we can sort all this out to be automagic later
[03:35] <Wicked_> nope
[03:36] <Wicked_> no errors :s
[03:36] <Wicked_> no EE
[03:36] <morbid88> good, 'cos I don't think I can do all this in realtime.
[03:36] <draggor> linuchsan:  Anyone else ever get this issue?
[03:36] <Wicked_> a few warnings
[03:36] <Wicked_> thats about it :s
[03:36] <lupine_85> hehe
[03:36] <ed921> hello, i have a problem
[03:36] <lupine_85> ls
[03:37] <morbid88> so what's next? trying to load ipw3945?
[03:37] <lupine_85> ooops
[03:37] <morbid88> lsmod?
[03:37] <lupine_85> morbid88: lsmod to see what's there
[03:37] <morbid88> I'm learning :-)
[03:37] <morbid88> I only see the _1_1_13 version.
[03:37] <morbid88> btw, I can combine that with grep, right?
[03:37] <lupine_85> yes
[03:37] <ed921> for some reason i cant get the internet to connect to my computer
[03:38] <morbid88> yep, they're there.
[03:38] <lupine_85> ok, now insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[03:38] <w30> does make-kpkg --configure <favorite.config.file>  configure a new kernel just like the one made from favorite.config.file?
[03:38] <CromagDK> for macromedia flash do i need wine and install it through there ? anyone knows ? :)
[03:38] <lupine_85> incidentally, modinfo shows you what a particular module depends on
[03:38] <linuchsan> draggor:ever thought about an upgrade?
[03:38] <AbortD> how do i save sources.list says i dont have the permissions?
[03:38] <hondje> CromagDK: No, do !flash
[03:38] <lupine_85> (which is why modprobe is technically unnecessary :) )
[03:38] <CromagDK> hondje: i did
[03:38] <CromagDK> AbortD: sudo
[03:38] <draggor> linuchsan:  Dapper does not work on this laptop.  I tried it and 6.06 was downright terrible
[03:38] <lupine_85> AbortD: use sudo or gksudo before the editor command
[03:38] <AbortD> sudo?
[03:39] <lupine_85> e.g. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <draggor> linuchsan:  The autodetection was horrid, couldn't get the video drivers to work, and sound was broken as well.
[03:39] <morbid88> error. Unknown symbol in module.
[03:39] <lupine_85> elevates you to the root user for that command
[03:39] <lupine_85> aaaaaaargh
[03:39] <hondje> CromagDK: flashplugin-nonfree not working for you?
[03:39] <CromagDK> AbortD: when you have to make changes you have to be root, in this case you use sudo for doing something AS root
[03:39] <AbortD> whats the difference between gksudo or sudo?
[03:39] <CromagDK> :)
[03:39] <CromagDK> hondje: hmm should yes hehe
[03:39] <linuchsan> draggor:what kernel did you use with dapper?
[03:39] <CromagDK> hondje: let me find my eyes
[03:39] <CromagDK> !flash
[03:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:39] <morbid88> yeah, I know.
[03:39] <hondje> CromagDK: hehe :)
[03:39] <lupine_85> presumably, it's wanting the ieee80211 for whatever reason
[03:40] <lupine_85> ok, let's try building it from source :)
[03:40] <hondje> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree installs the macromedia player
[03:40] <ed921> for anyone who wants to help me my aim is firewiccan921
[03:40] <lupine_85> (the ipw3945 module)
[03:40] <specialbuddy> how do I update compiz
[03:40] <AbortD> thanks
[03:40] <specialbuddy> ?
[03:40] <lupine_85> have you got build-essential and linux-headers installed?
[03:40] <CromagDK> hondje: as in apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[03:40] <hondje> yep yep
[03:40] <CromagDK> hondje: trying to find it on the sites
[03:40] <morbid88> let me try and get ipw3945 again.
[03:40] <AbortD> thanks all!
[03:40] <specialbuddy> how do I update compiz because I think there are a few things wrong with ti
[03:41] <AbortD> have a nice night
[03:41] <CromagDK> hondje: ok, tell me one thing the "non-free" part of all this, what is that ? trials ?
[03:41] <draggor> linuchsan:  I don't remember, it was off of the ordered kubuntu TLS CDs
[03:41] <hondje> CromagDK: non-free as in speech ... it's closed source
[03:41] <CromagDK> hondje: but about $$ ?
[03:41] <hondje> CromagDK: It's in the multiverse repos
[03:42] <hondje> Oh no, it's free $$ wise
[03:42] <CromagDK> aah :D
[03:42] <CromagDK> hondje: thnkx
[03:42] <hondje> apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree drops some details if you'd care to read them
[03:42] <draggor> Should I just resign to using synaptic or something?
[03:42] <hondje> np :)
[03:42] <morbid88> lupine_85: is there anything I should be doing with ipw3945d, the regulatory daemon?
[03:42] <CromagDK> oh i kinda missed that "show" the other day
[03:42] <CromagDK> thnkx :D
[03:42] <brian98> I dunno if it's all the fiddling I'm doing or if it's a damn app I installed recently but I've had to reboot twice today :S
[03:43] <lupine_85> morbid88: once the ipw3945 module is loaded, yes
[03:43] <brian98> normally just restarting x would sort out the probs...
[03:43] <brian98> but not today
[03:43] <ed921> having ethernet problems, need help
[03:43] <brian98> oh no
[03:43] <lupine_85> before them it's irrelevent
[03:43] <morbid88> ah. So that's later. okay. what can I try? is it the ucode file? is it the drivers themselves?
[03:43] <lupine_85> it's the ipw3945 module
[03:44] <lupine_85> I presume it's not considering iee80211_1_1_13 to be the same as ieee80211
[03:44] <FrogstarScout> ok.... chuckyp i got something
[03:44] <morbid88> maybe I shoudl recompile it?
[03:44] <morbid88> now that I've set up ieee80211
[03:44] <draggor> Okay, anyone know how to make libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.10 work in breezy?
[03:44] <FrogstarScout> when trying to load the PCI device
[03:44] <FrogstarScout> [   53.591939]  PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:14.0 (0000 -> 0001)
[03:44] <FrogstarScout> [   53.591951]  PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 0000:00:14.0. Please try using pci=bios
[03:44] <FrogstarScout> irq.
[03:44] <FrogstarScout> [   53.592373]  EMU10K1_Audigy: probe of 0000:00:14.0 failed with error -16
[03:44] <FrogstarScout> eek sorry guys
[03:45] <FrogstarScout> didn't mean for a long paste
[03:45] <lupine_85> morbid88: probably, yes
[03:45] <lupine_85> I'm just looking at the code now
[03:45] <D00B3Y> how do I link files to desktop?
[03:46] <lupine_85> ok, it compiles really easily
[03:46] <lupine_85> get the source from http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ipw3945/ipw3945-1.1.0.tgz
[03:46] <FrogstarScout> bugger
[03:47] <lupine_85> there's also a patch that we might need to apply here:- http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/patches/ipw3945-1.0.3-fix_undefined_symbols.patch
[03:47] <Dutchy> ok i gotta disconnect now to walk outside looking for an access point :> hopefully im back soon :P
[03:47] <lupine_85> but try without the patch first
[03:47] <lupine_85> Dutchy: before you go, did you do anything special with the ipw3945 module?
[03:47] <lupine_85> or was it just the stock dapper one?
[03:48] <Dutchy> i _think_ it was hte stock dapper one
[03:48] <lupine_85> ok, thanks
[03:48] <Dutchy> i messed around a bit but that was more with ndiswrapper
[03:49] <killown> How I use xserver-xorg-driver-via in my X?
[03:49] <AbortD> lupine_85: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:49] <AbortD> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:49] <Dutchy> now, brb i hope :)
[03:49] <lupine_85> sudo it
[03:49] <AbortD> what do i do with that?
[03:49] <AbortD> sudo?
[03:49] <AbortD> k
[03:49] <CromagDK> AbortD: sudo
[03:49] <Spudz0r> hey peoples g'day folks
[03:49] <Spudz0r> :S
[03:49] <AbortD> that makes me root?
[03:49] <lupine_85> for that command, yes
[03:49] <CromagDK> for that command yes
[03:49] <CromagDK> lol
[03:49] <lupine_85> snap :)
[03:49] <CromagDK> hehe
[03:50] <AbortD> echo :P
[03:50] <D00B3Y> how do I link files to desktop?
[03:50] <FrogstarScout> anyone know what i should do about a dmesg error: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 0000:00:14.0
[03:50] <robertj> when is a fsck required?
[03:50] <robertj> (assuming ext3)
[03:50] <linuchsan> D00B3Y:man ls
[03:50] <linuchsan> D00B3Y:man ln
[03:50] <lupine_85> morbid88: there is also a third possible solution... but let's see if either of the first two work first :)
[03:50] <AbortD> k i was running synaptec thats why i was having a problem
[03:50] <D00B3Y> linuchsan: whats the diffeerence between symbolic and hard links?
[03:51] <AbortD> so when i use sudo it makes me root? then when i am done i am not correct?
[03:51] <lupine_85> yes
[03:51] <linuchsan> D00B3Y:ask bill gates
[03:51] <AbortD> ok sweet
[03:51] <AbortD> im getting the hang of this quick
[03:51] <lupine_85> D00B3Y: one works over partition boundaries; the other does not
[03:51] <bruenig> D00B3Y, when you delete or modify a symbolic link, it doesn't affect the thing it is linking to. Hard links do
[03:51] <morbid88> lupine_85: I tried make-ing ver 1.1.0, but I got a lot of compiler warnings on undefined symbos, so I'm trying version 1.0.0
[03:51] <levander> I just dist-upgraded to dapper, but now upon restart the system is hanging after saying "Starting PCMCIA services".  It's not even a laptop I'm using.  Any advice for how to get out of it?
[03:51] <lupine_85> ok
[03:51] <D00B3Y> bruenig: thanks
[03:52] <moustafa> Hello
[03:52] <moustafa> i need help please
[03:52] <moustafa> i downloding now 2sdk-1_4_2_12-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin
[03:52] <levander> bruenig: But, I don't think it deletes the file that it is hard linked to does it?
[03:52] <moustafa> it's 150 mb
[03:52] <moustafa> is that will help me ?
[03:52] <bruenig> levander, perhaps not, I am rotely repeating what I have been told
[03:52] <morbid88> nope. doesn't compile at all.
[03:52] <moustafa> i mean
[03:52] <lupine_85> and you have linux-headers-`uname -r` installed?
[03:53] <levander> bruenig: I'm pretty sure it doesn't, it may modify the timestamp on the file that is hard linked to, but I really don't believe it deletes the linked to file itself.
[03:53] <morbid88> ah... I'm pretty sure I do.
[03:53] <AbortD> now to locate wine thank you all have a nice night
[03:53] <lupine_85> the command I used was make KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386
[03:53] <moustafa> if i download it , can i install it or not?
[03:53] <morbid88> I think I got it last time I tried.
[03:53] <moustafa> 2sdk-1_4_2_12-nb-5_0-linux-ml.bin
[03:53] <lupine_85> it worked fine here
[03:53] <moustafa> wait
[03:53] <morbid88> or weren't you talking to me.
[03:53] <levander> Aren't you supposed to be able to hit Ctrl-C to kill a service that is being started up during boot?
[03:53] <moustafa> i will type the sitwe
[03:53] <lupine_85> morbid88: yes, I was :)
[03:53] <moustafa> site*
[03:53] <bruenig> levander, I will defer to you. I have never used a hard link nor have any experiences (tend to just symlink). I know only what I have been told.
[03:53] <moustafa> https://sdlc2a.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet/DownloadPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.DownloadPageInfo;jsessionid=3365D42C9BB64D29D752CA59142D185C;jsessionid=3365D42C9BB64D29D752CA59142D185C
[03:53] <morbid88> so you compiled it with KSRC as a switch?
[03:54] <lupine_85> yes
[03:54] <morbid88> let me try yours then.
[03:54] <moustafa> is that usiful for my ubuntu?
[03:54] <hondje> as long as something is still pointing at the file, rm on a hardlink won't erase the original
[03:54] <morbid88> nope. It's giving me the same errors. It's finding the src libs okay, but its haing trouble with ieee80211.
[03:54] <Spudz0r> does anyone know of any drivers for a 64 bit pci -> fibre channel host controller?
[03:55] <Spudz0r> (for compaq)
[03:55] <lupine_85> very strange :(
[03:55] <morbid88> indeedio.
[03:55] <Dutchy_> didnt work, 2 questions :)
[03:55] <lupine_85> well, I can compile these module permutations over and you can try them if you like?
[03:56] <lupine_85> Dutchy: no connection?
[03:56] <Dutchy_> Access Point: Not-Associated <= can this be something in the config or can it just not find it
[03:56] <levander> bruenig: just going on a little further, each inode in a unix filesystem has a count of the number of files that refer to it.  When you create a hard link, you up that count and create a new file (that is referenced by the same inode the linked to file is).  When you create a soft link, a new file and a new inode are create.  The new inode is simple a pointer to the old inode of the original...
[03:56] <levander> ...file.  Soft link = two total inodes.  Hard link = one total inodes, but that inode know it's referenced by two files.
[03:56] <morbid88> lupine_85: think that'll work?
[03:56] <lupine_85> Dutchy: sudo iwlist <interface> scan should give you any APs nearby
[03:56] <lupine_85> you can then set SSID and ap using iwconfig
[03:56] <Dutchy_> and in my dmesg i saw  ipw3945: Detected geography ABG (13 802.11bg channels, 23 802.11a channels) <= what does that mean
[03:56] <levander> bruenig: did that make sense, i made a couple of typos
[03:57] <levander> ?
[03:57] <bruenig> yeah
[03:57] <lupine_85> morbid88: they're built against the right headers so should
[03:57] <levander> bruenig: just spreading the gospel, thanks for helping out in the channel
[03:57] <morbid88> okay, let's try that.
[03:57] <morbid88> dcc?
[03:57] <lupine_85> but I get the feeling there's a deeper problem with your ieee80211 somewhere
[03:57] <lupine_85> ok... I'll upload to my website
[03:57] <morbid88> okay.
[03:57] <Dutchy_> lupine_85: found 4 access points, how do i use them?
[03:58] <morbid88> dutchy: isn't there a graphical ui for that
[03:58] <lupine_85> sudo iwconfig <interface> essid <essid>
[03:58] <lupine_85> then sudo iwconfig <interface> ap <ap MAC address>
[03:58] <lupine_85> then cross fingers
[03:58] <CromagDK> heh
[03:58] <CromagDK> damn i love this channel
[03:58] <iix> i have ubuntu installed on same hard disk and i have dual boot how do i remove ubuntu without stuffing up my mbr ?
[03:58] <Dutchy_> morbid88: this is my uni's very huge network, its special
[03:59] <Dutchy_> lupine_85: thanks, trying
[03:59] <lupine_85> morbid88: ok number 1... http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[03:59] <CromagDK> iix: i would say overwrite ur MBR with a windows rescure disc is a possibility..
[03:59] <lupine_85> download anywhere, then sudo insmod /path/to/file.ko
[03:59] <morbid88> lupine_85: where do I save it? oh. okay.
[03:59] <CromagDK> iix: but im not sure tho
[04:00] <iix> k
[04:01] <specialbuddy> what do I do if I have broken packages installed on my computer
[04:01] <hondje> fix them?
[04:02] <morbid88> error: unknown symbol in module.
[04:02] <Dutchy_> lupine_85: it has it's access point now, any effective way to test the connection?
[04:02] <lupine_85> does dmesg say which one is undefined?
[04:02] <lupine_85> Dutchy: ping anything
[04:02] <Dutchy_> well gotta pull the cable out first then :>
[04:02] <morbid88> does "all of 'em" count?
[04:02] <Smoked1> Last time I tried ubuntu it forced me to use sudo. Does it still do that?
[04:03] <mothersuperior> hi
[04:03] <Dutchy_> brb
[04:03] <barata> how to fix usb problem in vmware 5.5?
[04:03] <morbid88> lupine_85: a lot of ieee80211 ones.
[04:03] <barata> anybody has a clue?
[04:03] <mothersuperior> hows life
[04:03] <mothersuperior> sudo
[04:03] <lupine_85> must be this patch then... hang on
[04:03] <bruenig> Smoked1, yep
[04:03] <morbid88> how do I apply the patch?
[04:03] <Smoked1> is there an easy way to stop it?
[04:03] <Smoked1> I hate sudo
[04:04] <lupine_85> I'm doing it now :)
[04:04] <bruenig> Smoked1, you can use su if you want, you have to do some stuff
[04:04] <mothersuperior> sudo su !
[04:04] <bruenig> yeah sudo su works
[04:04] <hondje> How can you hate sudo? It's incredibly useful
[04:04] <dankmiser> question: what is the proper way to upgrade a video card, I tried simply swapping in the card but X wouldn't start
[04:04] <Smoked1> hondje, I am just not used to it
[04:04] <Telroth> http://www.eskimo.com/~hottub/software/programming_quotes.html <-- good laughs for anyone who programs
[04:04] <mothersuperior> why are u changing video cards?
[04:04] <morbid88> why does sudo su give me root access...?
[04:04] <hondje> dankmiser: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:04] <CromagDK> morbid88: it gives temp root access
[04:04] <mothersuperior> yes it does
[04:05] <mothersuperior> its for protection
[04:05] <morbid88> I mean, why doesn't it ask for a password?
[04:05] <dankmiser> old is TNT2 64mb new is ati 9600 256mb
[04:05] <CromagDK> morbid88: security
[04:05] <Telroth> morbid88, because sudo "remembers" your password for 15 minutes
[04:05] <morbid88> security? I'm a regular user on my--- oooooooh.
[04:05] <Kraig> hi, a friend changed /etc/hostname, and now he can't sudo
[04:05] <CromagDK> ;)
[04:06] <mothersuperior> Why did he change /etc/hostname?
[04:06] <Smoked1> I am more of a command line user. Can I still just use apt-get install APPNAME instead of a GUI interface?
[04:06] <morbid88> so that means that if at any point I do sudo, then for the next fifteen minutes anyone approaching my computer might gain root access?
[04:06] <dankmiser> hondje: after I have installed the new card?
[04:06] <Kraig> he didn't like the name so he changed it to have a different prompt.
[04:06] <`m0> Smoked1 yes
[04:06] <hondje> dankmiser: Yessir :)
[04:06] <mothersuperior> gui interface is soooooooo nice though
[04:06] <hyphenated> Smoked1: sure, just run 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[04:06] <morbid88> gui is the way of the future.
[04:07] <dankmiser> hondje: thanks, I will give it a try
[04:07] <Smoked1> I am used to freebsd over ssh so command line is what I prefer unless I am surfing the web or something
[04:07] <morbid88> lupine_85: could you tell me a bit about how you're applying the patch?
[04:07] <`m0> morbid88: look at windows... No user uses command prompt :)
[04:07] <lupine_85> erm, trying with patch
[04:07] <lupine_85> but it's not playing ball
[04:07] <graeme> could i get some help with an install issue?
[04:07] <Smoked1> Thats why I thought it was funny when I read that users of ubuntu were forced to a command line recently :)
[04:07] <morbid88> maybe it will for me?
[04:07] <mothersuperior> I don't mind a command line program that works awesome
[04:07] <mothersuperior> like wvdail
[04:08] <morbid88> `m0: which is why I've learned to stop fearing and love windows.
[04:09] <Kraig> so what can he do if he chages his /etc/hostname ? he can't sudo anymore?
[04:09] <mothersuperior> The problem with linux .. Is configuring your hardware devices
[04:09] <morbid88> that's a pretty big problem.
[04:09] <Smoked1> thats why i am going to use ubuntu
[04:09] <morbid88> that's not exactly something we can live without.
[04:09] <Smoked1> From what I read ubuntu will install and just work with my laptop
[04:09] <mothersuperior> Why not reformat it?
[04:09] <Dutchy__> lupine_85: e1000: eth0: e1000_watchdog_task: NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex appears in my dmesg for my normal connection, shouldnt a similar one appear for my wireless (eth1) when it works?
[04:10] <mothersuperior> yeah smoke it should
[04:10] <mothersuperior> but wireless card ... Sound card
[04:10] <mothersuperior> Will be issues
[04:10] <morbid88> as long as you dn't have a wireless 3945 intel.
[04:10] <Smoked1> Before it would not let me use my sd card reader so I had to reinstall windows. Now I read that it will work so I am trying again
[04:10] <ugarit> how come some applications' icons don't appear in gnome's menus while they appear in kde, kfce?
[04:10] <lupine_85> Dutchy__: depends wholly on the driver
[04:10] <mothersuperior> Mordbid my boardcom
[04:10] <Smeggy> anyone know how to pull a specific line of a text file in the shell?
[04:10] <Dutchy__> ok
[04:10] <mothersuperior> wireless i had 2 use ndiswrapper
[04:10] <lupine_85> don't suppose there's any chance you could share your ipw3945.ko file is there? :) (what kernel version is it...?)
[04:11] <morbid88> lupine_85: msuperior's using broadcom, not intel.
[04:11] <mothersuperior> right now
[04:11] <linuchsan> Smeggy:copy and paste
[04:11] <tbaur> yo
[04:11] <lupine_85> I was taling to Dutchy :)
[04:11] <mothersuperior> Im hooked up 2 my cell phone
[04:11] <Smeggy> linuchsan, uh
[04:11] <morbid88> hahah. I'm having a hard enough time as is. :-P
[04:11] <Dutchy__> sure, sec
[04:11] <Smeggy> I need to pull a line from a file by line number, any ideas?
[04:12] <ugarit> is it possible to "insert" kde menus in gnome?
[04:12] <Dutchy__> kernel 2.6.15-26-386 btw
[04:12] <hyphenated> Smeggy: sed
[04:12] <lupine_85> that's good :)
[04:12] <bayzider> ok im about to through my computer at the wall, im trying to install java and when i type in ./jre-1_5_06-linux-i586.bin it says that it dosent exsesit but it does and in the file that im cd'd to
[04:12] <bean-oh> anyone know how to get make menuconfig working? keeps complaining about lack of ncurses-devel (which doesn't seem to exist in the repo)
[04:12] <Dutchy__> where do i send the file :)
[04:13] <tbaur> confidential
[04:13] <lupine_85> email it to me - nick@lupine.me.uk
[04:13] <lupine_85> then i'll website it and we can see if it works
[04:13] <jamison> Looking to connect vpn to SonicWall VPN router
[04:13] <IcemanV9> !java > bayzider
[04:13] <Smeggy> hyphenated, cheers
[04:13] <mothersuperior> Cheers
[04:13] <buzzygirl> Hello
[04:13] <mothersuperior> Sup Fuzzygirl
[04:14] <Faithman> hey
[04:14] <morbid88> lupine_85: I knew you were british. No-one else says "the lot".
[04:14] <bean-oh> bayzider, do you have it set to be executable?
[04:14] <buzzygirl> Hi mothersuperior, etc
[04:14] <lupine_85> lol
[04:14] <IcemanV9> bayzider: if you follow the instruction from ubotu, java will be installed
[04:14] <mothersuperior> =P
[04:14] <buzzygirl> Hey, I've got a question for those who use Ubuntu at their jobs?
[04:14] <jamison> Anyone have SonicWall experience?
[04:15] <mothersuperior> Jamison what are u trying 2 do?
[04:15] <Dutchy__> lupine_85: sent
[04:15] <jamison> connect to work vpn from home.
[04:15] <hondje> buzzygirl: eh?
[04:15] <bayzider> yeah its exacuteable,  and thats alot more complicated then what the java tut says
[04:16] <lupine_85> received thanks :)
[04:16] <bigdaddy> hello is there a way to install all games at once with apt?
[04:16] <jamison> I have a sonicwall vpn client for Windose, but nothing yet for ubuntu.
[04:16] <bean-oh> bigdaddy, all games?
[04:16] <mothersuperior> Do u use a token or a rsa card?
[04:16] <bigdaddy> yes all games within game group?
[04:17] <jamison> token=passkey?
[04:17] <bigdaddy> like tuxracer kbounce ect...?
[04:17] <jamison> passkey
[04:17] <bhrobinson> jamison, I do not think there is a client. Just forward the PPTP ports internal to a server and set up that way
[04:17] <bean-oh> bigdaddy, have you looked at synaptic?
[04:17] <lupine_85>  morbid88: ok http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko is now Dutchy's version
[04:17] <bayzider> i tryed app get it dosent work limewire still dosent think i have it installed
[04:17] <lupine_85> if this doesn't work, then it's definitely a problem with your ieee80211
[04:17] <bigdaddy> i have sorry i am new ;) just use that ?
[04:18] <jamison> thanks bhrobinson, I'll try pptp.
[04:18] <spc> bigdaddy: wha?!  All at once?  I guess you could select all, then... ;)
[04:18] <mothersuperior> yeah =)
[04:18] <bigdaddy> ;)
[04:18] <bigdaddy> thanks
[04:19] <bean-oh> !kernel > bean-oh
[04:19] <morbid88> okay, let's give this baby a shot.
[04:19] <vandit2k6> hi, can anybody show me how to install latest gaim beta from the update thing.....!!!
[04:19] <bigdaddy> there a shortcut to select all at once? ;)
[04:19] <mothersuperior> morbid what are u trying 2 do
[04:19] <morbid88> okay, that didn't work.
[04:20] <bayzider> can some one help me out
[04:20] <morbid88> duchy: what version of 80211 are y running?ou
[04:20] <John[1] > I need some help installing webmin.  I have on the dapper server but I canot get it to run the install program.
[04:21] <Zorlac> how long would dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M take?
[04:21] <Zorlac> its been going at it for an hour or longer...
[04:21] <ugarit> is it possible to "insert" kde menus in gnome?
[04:21] <John[1] > I run this command ./setup.sh /usr/local/webmin and it acts like it times out.
[04:21] <lupine_85> Zorlac: probably ages
[04:21] <Zorlac> overnight then?
[04:21] <IcemanV9> !webmin > John[1] 
[04:22] <mgeorg> I have a tricky questions about remapping control characters in X...is this the place for that?
[04:23] <bh> When is the edgy going to be released and what's current state ?
[04:24] <bh> A URL to the current status of edgy would do
[04:24] <levander> Someone can tell me which boot script outputs "Starting PCMCIA services"?  I need to disable that script from running on boot, its hanging my system.
[04:24] <dmembrane> why can't i reach my desktop on the terminal directory?
[04:25] <ViniDomine> Hello room
[04:26] <mothersuperior> hola\
[04:26] <dmembrane> i need to access the /home/<user>/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux, but i can't get any further than the user file.
[04:26] <morbid88> lupine_85: I'm going to try with the 80211.1.1.15 maybe now that I know how to look at things.
[04:26] <IcemanV9> !schedule > bh
[04:26] <ViniDomine> can someone help me with aMSN?
[04:27] <xkenneth> what's aMSN?
[04:27] <lupine_85> ok; if you do that, you'll also need a version of the module built against 80211_1_1_15
[04:27] <lupine_85> I'll have a peek
[04:27] <xkenneth> anyone around that wouldn't mind answering a few questions about dual head setups?
[04:28] <bigdaddy> thanks alot for the help ;)
[04:28] <CromagDK> ah well nite ppl
[04:28] <CromagDK> xkenneth: what card ?
[04:28] <CromagDK> nvidia stuff ?
[04:28] <xkenneth> hey Cromag
[04:28] <xkenneth> yes Nvidia
[04:28] <CromagDK> sec..
[04:28] <xkenneth> wouldn't dream of setting up an ati card ><
[04:29] <kristjin> Greetings and salutations.  I apologize if I'm in the wrong place to inquire, feel free to point me.  I'm looking for some drivers that I can *not* find.  This the right place to check?
[04:29] <CromagDK> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243956
[04:29] <morbid88> I've got 80211.1.1.15 that I got from sourceforge.
[04:29] <morbid88> I just hit make on that, and that's it, no?
[04:29] <CromagDK> mostly its just 4 or 5 lines
[04:30] <hondje> kristjin: Probably less wrong than anywhere else :D
[04:30] <kristjin> K, thx.  :)
[04:30] <xkenneth> hey Cromag
[04:30] <xkenneth> thanks
[04:30] <CromagDK> xkenneth: n
[04:30] <xkenneth> but i've already done that
[04:30] <CromagDK> np
[04:30] <CromagDK> xkenneth: ok ?
[04:30] <CromagDK> where does it go wrong and how ?
[04:30] <CromagDK> and did you install nvidia drivers ?
[04:30] <dmembrane> i need to access the /home/<user>/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux, but i can't get any further than the user file.  When I try to /cd to desktop, i am told that there is not such file or directory.  I know it's there...can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[04:31] <hondje> dmembrane: Could it be Desktop instead of desktop
[04:31] <printk> dmembrane: you're not actually typing <user> are you?
[04:31] <printk> dmembrane: replace user with your username if you are :)
[04:31] <xkenneth> CromagDK: Everythings working fine, but I'm trying to accomplish something else, mind if I PM you?
[04:31] <jns> I have ipw2200 firmware error how do I fix it?
[04:32] <printk> jns: what kernel version are you running and what ipw firmware version are you running?
[04:32] <CromagDK> xkenneth: ooh well... im not regged so cant help thee
[04:32] <bhrobinson> how can I get logged in as root?
[04:32] <chad> anybody have any problems with compiz after installing updates today?
[04:32] <dmembrane> OMG!  i've been crosseyed about this for 2 hours..!  thanks for that incredibly simple solution...yes it is Desktop instead of desktop.  duh.
[04:32] <jns> how do I check firmware version
[04:32] <kristjin> I've got a Canon ImageClass MF 3111 MultiFunction Laser, which I'm hopeful I'll be able to at least find a printing substitution for, and I've got a Microsoft Wireless Natural MultiMedia Keyboard and Mouse which work fine on the generic side, but I can't customize the additional buttons, so I'm wondering if there's a way to do that, and am not so hopeful on that front.
[04:32] <CromagDK> LOL
[04:32] <xkenneth> Cromag, thanks man
[04:33] <CromagDK> bhrobinson: su -s for the shell
[04:33] <BlackTopBum> Hi all ! Thinking of going from 64bit to 32bit so I can play Q3A again - is this possible on my AMD64 system ?
[04:33] <CromagDK> xkenneth: well sorry but im off to bed
[04:33] <brian98> bhrobinson: sudo passwd root
[04:33] <lupine_85>  morbid88: ok, you need to install the sources for the ieee80211 that you're using, and compile the module against that... see http://ieee80211.sourceforge.net/ ...the readme in the tarball is pretty good
[04:33] <lupine_85> I must go to bed, however
[04:33] <lupine_85> good luck :)
[04:33] <brian98> bhrobinson: then set your password and su whenever you need
[04:33] <brian98> *duck*
[04:33] <jns> printk, kernel is 2.6.12.10-386
[04:33] <linuchsan> BlackTopBum:yes
[04:34] <morbid88> I just tried doing that, it didn't work. I'm looking on the forums, but it's 5:30am, I have to go to sleep... man.
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[04:34] <jns> printk, I think it is ipw2200 version 1.0.6
[04:35] <CromagDK> im off nn
[04:35] <linuchsan> BlackTopBum:no
[04:35] <bhrobinson> thanks brian98.... can I log into the GUI then as root? mine keeps telling me no
[04:35] <bruenig> bhrobinson, why do you need to be root in the gui?
[04:35] <chad> Is anyone else running COMPIZ in here and having problems with the most recent patch???
[04:36] <BlackTopBum> linuchsan: ok - thanks ... i686?
[04:36] <hondje> Running as root in X is generally considered reckless and will get you tons of dirty looks :)
[04:36] <kristjin> I'm taking it since no one is saying "Oh, you can find those drivers ___________" that no one has them handy... :)
[04:36] <bhrobinson> it is annoying switching back and forth
[04:36] <brian98> what he says
[04:37] <linuchsan> BlackTopBum:apt-cache showsrc linux-image-686
[04:37] <bruenig> bhrobinson, if you just want to have root graphically so you can graphically delete files in the file manager, you can just use "gksudo nautilus" from the command line. That is the only reason I could think of why someone would want to login as root for gui. Which with that solution is unncessary
[04:37] <hondje> kristjin: I'd look at linuxprinting.org for the printer, and the keyboard...well, that can get tedious
[04:37] <jns> printk, do you know a solution?
[04:37] <kristjin> Oh yeah?
[04:37] <kristjin> Tedious how?
[04:38] <bhrobinson> bruenig, why do they lock it out on Ubuntu? My Fedora lets me do it
[04:38] <BlackTopBum> linuchsan: cool. Thanks for your help. Going to reboot and do it. CUL
[04:38] <hondje> kristjin: you have to find the keycode, and then use setkeycodes for each one you want to add
[04:38] <kristjin> Is that right.
[04:38] <bruenig> bhrobinson, security reasons. By being constantly in a limited user account, accept when using sudo. It doesn't allow you to mess up and hose your system and also makes it harder for hackers to do bad things
[04:39] <hondje> kristjin: Probably not, but that's how I always do it ... if you find a better way I'd love to hear it :)
[04:39] <kristjin> Hondje... you got 2 mins to talk privately?
[04:39] <hondje> sure
[04:39] <brian98> I login as root, do system maintenance, log out, then login as a normal user. This is the way it is done in Redhat, Debian, Fedora Core, Mandriva, and Suse. If I need to do something quickly, I open a root terminal. I don't use sudo.
[04:39] <levander> How come inittab says my default runlevel is 2, but the scripts in /etc/rcS.d are being run during boot?
[04:39] <tom47> ... and also it times out after a few minutes unlike signing on as root which may accidentally be left running
[04:40] <bruenig> I have found it easier to do it with sudo. Never have to log in and out. But if you want to have a root account, you can do it. It just isn't default
[04:40] <bruenig> and sudo su gives you root terminal anyways
[04:40] <bhrobinson> bruenig, you sound fairly fluent in the PAM. Not to sound negative, but generating a root password on install seems insecure on its own
[04:41] <tom47> and, usung sudo, it sure gets folk thinking about root a lot more than if it just lay ready to hand all the time
[04:42] <bruenig> right and having an account called root kind of helps hackers along the way as they can just focus on the password of an account that they already know the username of (root)
[04:42] <tom47> bruenig good thought
[04:43] <bhrobinson> makes sense...
[04:43] <bhrobinson> bruenig, your in TX?
[04:43] <bruenig> unfortunately
[04:44] <bhrobinson> hey man... be nice...I am here too
[04:44] <bruenig> you like texas?
[04:44] <bhrobinson> for the past 30 years
[04:44] <bhrobinson> :)
[04:44] <bruenig> too many religious nuts down here
[04:44] <bhrobinson> I will pray for you
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[04:45] <tom47> roflmao
[04:45] <Zorlac> I'll give an offering to my god
[04:45] <brian98> And I being irish will have a drink for you :)
[04:45] <brian98> I'll raise my glass to ya
[04:45] <bruenig> i bet you will, they all do. I am divine at this point because of all the people praying for me
[04:45] <Zorlac> I will sacrifice a goat and a virgin lady under the blood moon.
[04:45] <brian98> Zorlac: Thats going too far
[04:45] <bhrobinson> damn.... your wasting another virgin....
[04:45] <tom47> where you gonna get a virgin in texas?
[04:45] <levander> damn, i just upgraded to dapper, the speed improvements are good enough, i may be able to use it as my regular desktop on a Pentium III 550, that is unbelievable
[04:45] <cappicrd> sup
[04:46] <cappicrd> good
[04:46] <Zorlac> tom47: one with no cousins.
[04:46] <tom47> lol
[04:46] <brian98> :)
[04:46] <brian98> lol
[04:46] <levander> who'd have thunk upgrading would make it that much faster, i'm awestruck
[04:46] <gza> Hi
[04:46] <bhrobinson> hey now... this is TX, not Arkansas
[04:46] <bruenig> just going to have to dip below the age of consent, isn't like 12 here. I forget.
[04:46] <levander> anybody else get such a speed improvement by upgrading?
[04:46] <gza> Do language packs for openoffice exist for ubuntu?
[04:46] <bruenig> gza, yes
[04:46] <gza> specifically de
[04:47] <bruenig> !openoffice.org-l10n-de
[04:47] <ubotu> openoffice.org-l10n-de: German language package for OpenOffice.org. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1743 kB, installed size 6836 kB
[04:47] <liquidangle> did someone say, gza ?
[04:47] <liquidangle> liquid swords
[04:47] <gza> liquidangle: yo
[04:47] <liquidangle> sup gza
[04:47] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to play flv's ?
[04:47] <levander> do you have to know somebody in this channel to get questions answered, even my simple answers don't get answered this channel
[04:47] <Zorlac> ProN00b: flash video player
[04:47] <chibiace> heh
[04:47] <Zorlac> flv is a flash video format, for online viewing
[04:47] <ProN00b> Zorlac, like without flash...
[04:48] <bruenig> how do answers get answered?
[04:48] <ToHellWithGA> where do i edit ethernet settings using vi?
[04:48] <bruenig> is this jeopardy
[04:48] <levander> yeah, i guess you have to know somebody
[04:48] <bhrobinson> levander, no... patience is something in this room. We have 820 people in here
[04:48] <ProN00b> levander, you are talking strange
[04:48] <Zorlac> i'm not sure if you can view flvs without flash...
[04:48] <bruenig> even his simple answers don't get answered, that makes perfect sense
[04:49] <dankmiser> hondje: dpkg-reconfigure worked, after about 5 tries at it...
[04:49] <ProN00b> thought that too, bruenig
[04:49] <bruenig> maybe his questions are as nonsensical questions baffle people or nonsensical "answers", I am not sure what they are
[04:49] <chibiace> google is your friend
[04:49] <dankmiser> does anyone know how to make flash not suck as hard until 8 goes out
[04:49] <hondje> dankmiser: :-) it can get tricky
[04:49] <bhrobinson> bruenig, are you in the DFW area?
[04:50] <bruenig> indeed
[04:50] <bhrobinson> D or FW?
[04:50] <gza> ubotu: Thanks bro
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thanks bro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <bruenig> area
[04:50] <gza> bruenig: thanks
[04:50] <bruenig> gza, np
[04:50] <riko> which program will work with my hauppage wintv go-plus?
[04:51] <bhrobinson> lol... I am in Keller/Watauga... just wondering how close
[04:51] <bruenig> arlington...
[04:51] <bruenig> !xhosa
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xhosa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <bruenig> !xh
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <ProN00b> riko, well, first you should see if kernel recognizes them, then you should have some linux video source you can use
[04:53] <riko> ProN00b: from what i read it can be used in ubuntu i just can't seem to figure out which software to use
[04:53] <Tonren> Can someone explain the BootUp-Manager thing to me, please?  Why are certain things checked but not activated, or activated but not checked?
[04:53] <linuchsan> !Shuttleworth
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Shuttleworth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <ProN00b> riko, well, i would suggest mplayer, but that might be a bit hard to use
[04:53] <Nalf> Oi vei, when someone is done helping Riko/Tonren, i'd like a little myself.
[04:53] <Tonren> Nalf: What's up?
[04:54] <Nalf> Trying to dual boot.
[04:54] <bruenig> !patience
[04:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:54] <Nalf> With windows and ubuntu.
[04:54] <hockyhair> hola
[04:54] <bruenig> Nalf, pretty simple, resize your windows, install ubuntu, grub will be installed by default
[04:54] <Nalf> However windows starts to boot and then just shuts down.
[04:54] <Tonren> Nalf: What's the trouble you're having?
[04:54] <Nalf> I did that.
[04:54] <Nalf> Windows dies right after booting/during booting.
[04:54] <bruenig> Nalf, perhpas try ##windows
[04:55] <ProN00b> riko, try mplayer tv://1 from console or something
[04:55] <bruenig> perhaps*
[04:55] <Nalf> Thanks, Bruenig.
[04:55] <hockyhair> anyone get devhook + usbmod .46 (psp) working in ubuntu or any other nix distro, i can get .45 working np
[04:55] <morbid88> lupine_85: thanks so much for all your help. I know what I'm looking for now, so I'll try and tackle it that way.
[04:55] <Nalf> Appreciate the help.:)
[04:56] <morbid88> and if not, then I'll just be back here the weekend.
[04:56] <linuchsan> riko:tvtime, xawtv, kdetv...etc. etc.
[04:56] <|thunder> sup all, what do you think is the best rss aggregator fo ubuntu? Simple like the one in OSX.
[04:56] <bruenig> !Liferea
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Liferea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <bruenig> !liferea
[04:56] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 726 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[04:57] <|thunder> thanks bruenig
[04:57] <annon_> I'm having some trouble with setting up XGL
[04:57] <annon_> I get this error: compiz: No composite extension
[04:57] <annon_> anyone have any hints?
[04:58] <bruenig> #ubuntu-xgl, go there annon_
[04:58] <hockyhair> ./j #xgl
[04:58] <annon_> thanks
[04:58] <|thunder> annon_, install composite1 or something like that
[04:58] <hockyhair> i wish i could join #ubuntu-obscure-psp-usbmodposthing
[04:58] <hockyhair> lol
[04:59] <annon_> |thunder: libxcomposite1? that is already insatlled
[04:59] <hockyhair> oh wells back to .45 for me
[04:59] <hockyhair> pz!
[05:00] <tom47> bruenig is there a list of the ubuntu irc channels anywhere?
[05:00] <|thunder> annon_, ya, thats the one. no idea
[05:00] <bruenig> !#ubuntu
[05:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:00] <bruenig> !offtopic
[05:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:00] <tom47> ty
[05:00] <bruenig> there are some
[05:00] <ToHellWithGA> i need help figuring out how to modify my ethernet settings from the terminal
[05:00] <bruenig> I know other than that, there is #ubuntu-xgl and #ubuntu-ops
[05:01] <tom47> ok
[05:01] <bruenig> probably is a list on that irc resource page
[05:01] <Healot> the IP configuration or the hardware setting itself, ToHellWithGA?
[05:01] <james296> what do I type in the terminal so I can be able to enable more screen resolutions?
[05:02] <JoseStefan> !fixres
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: setting static IP and such
[05:02] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:02] <Firewall`> what command sets iptables to default values?
[05:02] <Healot> oh /etc/network/interfaces
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> thanks
[05:02] <Healot> man interfaces for syntax and options
[05:03] <bruenig> !xconfig
[05:03] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:04] <bruenig> !ubotu tell james296 about xconfig
[05:05] <kristjin> Anybody here able to help me with printer issues?
[05:06] <bruenig> ubotu: tell kristjin about ask
[05:07] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: what do i do to restart the interface once i've set the settings in there
[05:07] <ToHellWithGA> also, is there a place to set DNS servers?
[05:07] <Healot> sudo invoke-rc.d restart networking...
[05:08] <Healot> the DNS servers, put the entries in /etc/resolv.conf << man resolv.conf for syntax and options
[05:08] <Healot> sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart << the right one
[05:09] <foo> Hm, any ideas on how I could block all of myspace related websites via my linux router? Hm
[05:09] <hondje>  /etc/hosts.deny can be fun
[05:09] <w30> riko, I  have a WinTv PCI card of some kind and it works with xawtv, vlc media player, and tvtime. I can't change channels with zapping forsome reason
[05:09] <Healot> foo, can you do iptables then?
[05:10] <foo> Healot: Sure, if that solves the problem. hmm
[05:10] <Healot> yup, you simply drop outgoing connection to myspace
[05:10] <Healot> but iptables syntax is not easy :)
[05:11] <linuchsan> foo:man squid
[05:11] <foo> linuchsan: thanks.
[05:11] <mrproper> Are there Dapper packages for the new gnome?
[05:11] <Healot> if he installed squied
[05:11] <foo> Hmm, you know ... there are too many myspace gateways..
[05:11] <Healot> ah
[05:11] <foo> How about just allowing only certain IPs?
[05:11] <bruenig> mrproper, no
[05:11] <foo> Is there any easier way than doing this all with iptables?
[05:11] <Healot> the easiest way, imho, via privoxy?
[05:11] <specialbuddy> has anyone updated to the newest version of compiz?
[05:11] <foo> hm
[05:11] <specialbuddy> because I can't get it to work
[05:11] <Healot> you can also use squid
[05:11] <kristjin> I am trying to get a Canon ImageClass MF 3111 to communicate with Ubuntu but can't find any drivers that seem to be suitable.  This multifunction unit is not even mentioned in the lists of known printers when installing printer drivers or on linuxprinting.org.  Any idea where I might find a viable driver for this machine?
[05:11] <linuchsan> Healot:apt-get install squid; man squid
[05:12] <Healot> all the web proxy
[05:12] <bruenig> specialbuddy someone was in here earlier saying that. probably #ubuntu-xgl will be more likely to handle your question
[05:12] <Healot> privoxy is way easier to set up
[05:12] <foo> Healot: Hm, ok. So that's pretty simple, eh? I can enter IPs to allow or delete.. hmm
[05:12] <specialbuddy> thanks
[05:12] <foo> Healot: oh, ok, hmm.
[05:12] <Healot> for more help goto privoxy website, google it if you like
[05:12] <mrproper> I'm on what I think is the latest compiz.
[05:14] <foo> Healot: so you've used both and would recommend privoxy over squid? It's able to do what I want?
[05:15] <Healot> for the beginners, privoxy
[05:15] <Healot> and remember to setup the proxy setting, after running privoxy
[05:16] <brian98> anyone know much about whiptail ?
[05:16] <tweaky> !java
[05:16] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:17] <brian98> !whiptail
[05:17] <ubotu> whiptail: Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is important. Version 0.51.6-31ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:17] <Healot> !info privoxy
[05:17] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-5 (dapper), package size 1504 kB, installed size 2852 kB
[05:17] <richiefrich> whiptail? whats that
[05:17] <dankmiser> question: azureus warning box will not go away, I can't click on it to hide
[05:17] <brian98> what ubotu says
[05:17] <richiefrich> like root-tail ?
[05:17] <Healot> i think it's something like zenity
[05:17] <brian98> my fan was going crazy there and when I checked my processes it was using 100% of my cpu time
[05:17] <brian98> strange
[05:18] <Healot> zenity works with GNOME i think, it's a GTK+ script
[05:18] <foo> Healot: So I have to set up a proxy on the other systems?
[05:18] <foo> Healot: or if it's the gateway, could it just be a proxy? (without configuration on the computers on the network)
[05:18] <Nalf> Sigh, anyone good with a dual boot?
[05:18] <Dagon> where does Ubuntu hide the desktop wall paper? and can they be used elsewhere?
[05:19] <Healot> foo: it is a privacy enhancing proxy server >>
[05:19] <rubengonc> hello there
[05:19] <AndrukTatum> does anybody know how to get wired networking up?
[05:19] <Zorlac> wired networking?
[05:19] <rubengonc> whats the best way to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[05:19] <mrproper> AndrukTatum, ifup
[05:19] <foo> Healot: ok... didn't answer the question ... do I need to do any configuration on the boxes on this lan that get out through the linux router, or no?
[05:20] <rubengonc> (if there is a way)
[05:20] <AndrukTatum> !ifup
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <mrproper> AndrukTatum, What ethernet interface are you using?
[05:21] <Healot> foo: just set it on one PC on your network, point the proxy setting to that server/port, and make sure, that PC with privpxy running has a default gateway to the Internet
[05:21] <Whiz2> I'm having a major issue. I have a dual boot system with Ubuntu, and Windows XP. Somehow in the last coupld days, the boot loader for Linux has completely vanished from my hard drive, and now my system boots straight into XP. Is there a way to restore the boot information without reinstalling the Linux OS?
[05:21] <Swedish_Chef> in gnome 2.16 on ubuntu, gdm crashed and when i logged back in after it restarted, it said it was having problems with the user switcher applet and asked if i wanted to delete it from my configuration, and stupidly i clicked yes
[05:22] <Swedish_Chef> is there a way to get it back?
[05:22] <rubengonc> is it possible to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[05:23] <tom47> rubengonc sure but why would you do it
[05:23] <AndrukTatum> eth0
[05:23] <AndrukTatum> mrproper: eth0
[05:23] <james296> How can I have my logon screen show completely on the screen instead of part of it showing?
[05:23] <Tonren> Can someone explain the BootUp-Manager thing to me, please?  Why are certain things checked but not activated, or activated but not checked?
[05:23] <rubengonc> tom47, just because i want to try the latest software......could you please tell me how to do it?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[05:24] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:24] <AndrukTatum> mrproper: well, im trying to get either ath0 or eth0 up and running (ath0 needs to overcome WPA encryption)
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. no edgy entry yet.
[05:24] <mrproper> AndrukTatum, Get eth0 first
[05:24] <linuchsan> foo:use squid, wich has transparent proxy support
[05:24] <james296> so any answers plz?
[05:24] <mrproper> AndrukTatum, ifup eth0
[05:25] <AndrukTatum> mrproper: says its already configured, lemme try one thing and get back to you...i might have figured it out
[05:25] <rubengonc> Dr_Willis, so it isnt possible?
[05:25] <tom47> Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> rubengonc,  change the apt.sources and then run that "update-manager -d"
[05:26] <Whiz2> anyone to help me?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> i guess
[05:26] <mrproper> Whiz2, What's your problem?
[05:26] <Whiz2> I'm having a major issue. I have a dual boot system with Ubuntu, and Windows XP. Somehow in the last coupld days, the boot loader for Linux has completely vanished from my hard drive, and now my system boots straight into XP. Is there a way to restore the boot information without reinstalling the Linux OS?
[05:26] <rubengonc> Dr_Willis, i think there is no need to change apt.sources
[05:27] <rubengonc> update-manager already tellls that new version 6.10 is available
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> rubengonc,  i just ran update-manager -d and it did NOT update to edgy. :P
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> or is it.. Hmm..
[05:27] <mrproper> Whiz2, Good question.  There maybe a way with a bootable CD.
[05:27] <rubengonc> Dr_Willis, welll...mine is doing it:P Welcome to Ubuntu 6.10 'Edgy Eft---------------------------------*WARNING: THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT SNAPSHOT*
[05:27] <choronzon> I have the exact same problem as you Whiz2
[05:27] <Whiz2> I have the Ubuntu live CD
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> rubengonc,  its just showing 7 updates i need.. that seems.. low. :P
[05:28] <kristjin> I am trying to get a Canon ImageClass MF 3111 to communicate with Ubuntu but can't find any drivers that seem to be suitable.  This multifunction unit is not even mentioned in the lists of known printers when installing printer drivers or on linuxprinting.org.  Any idea where I might find a viable driver for this machine?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> rubengonc,  and i got no warning.
[05:28] <Zorlac> Do you think its possible that ubuntu has support for a joystick made in 1994?
[05:28] <Whiz2> that CD is how I installed it
[05:28] <w30> Whiz2, You have to boot on the live cd and then use the chroot command  and then run grub install or something like that. Check out grub and chroot commands.
[05:28] <FliesLikeABrick> probably Zorlac but I base that on nothing except a general feeling
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Zorlac,  highly likely..
[05:29] <orbin> Whiz2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ...weird though, it shouldn't just vanish
[05:29] <Tonren> Can someone explain the BootUp-Manager thing to me, please?  Why are certain things checked but not activated, or activated but not checked?
[05:29] <dragonguy> I installed anjuta and glade-3 on my Ubuntu, but when I try to load glade-3 from menu Project\Edit Application GUI, I'm told that the glade-2 util is not installed
[05:29] <dragonguy> who can help me, thank you
[05:30] <rubengonc> Dr_Willis, isnt there something that tells you : New distribution release '6.10' is available" and then an upgrade button? :P
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> rubengonc,  i dident see it.
[05:30] <Tonren> Has anyone else noticed that almost NONE of the GUI applications that come with ubuntu - NetworkMonitor, BootUp-Manager, etc., actually WORK?
[05:30] <Zorlac> they are just there for show.
[05:30] <Andruk> Tonren: tehy do for me...
[05:30] <rubengonc> Dr_Willis, at the top:P
[05:30] <rubengonc> weird
[05:30] <Whiz2> It vanished when I installed System Commander
[05:30] <riko> what does it mean if i get a segmentation fault when modprobing ndiswrapper?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> rubengonc,  wait a sec.. we are refering to going from dapper to edgy right? i though dapper was 6.10..
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> silly name/version numberins system. :P
[05:30] <orbin> dragonguy: how did you install them?
[05:31] <Faithman> pace
[05:31] <Faithman> peace
[05:31] <w30> Whiz2, back up your old /boot/grub/menu.lst  file first though
[05:31] <tweaky> !macromedia
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macromedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <rubengonc> Dr_Willis, dapper is 6.06
[05:31] <Tonren> Andruk: Nothing ever seems to work for me.  I prefer doing it via command line ANYWAY, but I can't figure out how to disable these STUPID GUI applications!
[05:31] <tweaky> !flash
[05:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <Pntkl> Hi
[05:31] <Tonren> Andruk: No matter WHAT i do, NetworkManager ALWAYS pops back up.  GNOME's Session manager BARELY works.
[05:32] <mrproper> Tonren, Did you submit bug reports?
[05:32] <dragonguy> I first installed anjuan by synaptic package manager
[05:32] <Whiz2> w30, should I restore that from the backup once I get the linux boot code installed again?
[05:32] <dragonguy> then install glade-3 from source
[05:32] <Tonren> mrproper: You know, now that you mention it, I haven't!  But I'm not sure if I should report them in Ubuntu trackers or GNOME trackers.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> rubengonc,  im seeing no mention of 6.10 let me try again
[05:32] <riko> what does it mean if i get a segmentation fault when modprobing ndiswrapper?
[05:32] <mrproper> Tonren, I'd say go with Ubuntu.
[05:33] <Tonren> mrproper: Also, i'm nots ure if they're BUGS or just functionality that I'm not familiar with.
[05:33] <mrproper> Tonren, I've never had the network manager popup or anything like that.
[05:33] <Andruk> mrproper: okay, i got eth0 up (IP conflict with my laptop), so , you wanna help getting WPA setup on my wireless?
[05:33] <Arafangion> What's a good program that tidies up (nicely indenting each tag, etc) a crude "xml" file, which is currently entirely on one line?
[05:33] <Tonren> mrproper: I can't get rid of it, for the life of me.
[05:33] <mrproper> Andruk, Hehe...I have no experience with that, but hold on.
[05:33] <mrproper> Tonren, What causes it to load?
[05:33] <w30> Whiz2, My ubuntu live cd gives me the option of booting from my installed ubuntu. If yours does then just use grub to install the mbr again for your boot loader. man grub is your friend.
[05:34] <Tonren> mrproper: I have no idea.  I've been asking in this chatroom for about four weeks about the same couple of problems and no one has even asked about any details.
[05:34] <mrproper> Andruk, http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/
[05:34] <mrproper> Tonren, Devil is in the details
[05:34] <Tonren> mrproper: No one will even tell me which command line tools correspond to which GUI tools.  It's getting really frustrating.  I haven't been abel to find anything on Google OR ubuntuforums.org OR wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:34] <theblue> Is there a way to play WMV videos in Breezy?
[05:35] <Andruk> Tonren: pat on the back for doing your homework first
[05:35] <riko> on a clean ubuntu install which packages do i need to get ndiswrapper working? I can't get my linux pc on the internet so i have to manually dl all the packages needed
[05:35] <Whiz2> ty
[05:35] <mrproper> Tonren, Want a secret?
[05:35] <tweaky> theblue:  win32 codecs
[05:35] <Tonren> Andruk: I religiously research absolutely everything first.  I hate How-Tos and Tutorials because they don't explain anything.  My aim in using Linux is to UNDERSTAND, not to "just make it work".
[05:35] <tweaky> !win32
[05:35] <Tonren> mrproper: No doubt
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <Flannel> Tonren: If you don't ever ask questions, people wont answer them.
[05:35] <jluna> Hey everyone.  I am new to Ubuntu, and I am hoping someone can help me with the trouble I'm having installing the drivers for my video card.  I have Ubuntu running on a Dual G5 mac, and I am trying to install drivers for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.   I have been all over the forums, and I found these instructions: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide.  I am instructed to install xorg-driver-fglrx, but looking 
[05:35] <orbin> theblue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:35] <mrproper> Tonren, System->Administration->Right click on application and add it to the desktop.  Right click, launcher tab, you have your executable.
[05:35] <james296> so how can I fix my logon screen so the entire screen is displayed instead of one corner of it?
[05:35] <theblue> orbin, Thanks.
[05:35] <Arafangion> Tonren: Sounds like you would prefer the BSD's.
[05:36] <Andruk> mrproper: thanks a ton!
[05:36] <Tonren> Flannel: I've been asking the same few questions for about a month.  :\
[05:36] <riko> on a clean ubuntu install which packages do i need to get ndiswrapper working? I can't get my linux pc on the internet so i have to manually dl all the packages needed
[05:36] <mrproper> np
[05:36] <Arafangion> Tonren: Such as OpenBSD, though you may end up preferring FreeBSD, simply because that supports more hardware.
[05:36] <james296> PLZ help me
[05:36] <Tonren> Arafangion: Maybe I'll try 'em out someday.  the thing is that Ubuntu is the only thing I could get running on my laptop AT ALL besides Fedora Core.
[05:36] <jns> dmesg says: ipw2200 firmware error detected, and I can't get connect. How do I fix this?
[05:37] <Arafangion> Tonren: Have you considered playing around with www.linuxfromscratch.org?
[05:37] <Tonren> mrproper: I sohuld've been more specific, sorry: I don't mean the commands for each GUI utility.  I mean the command line utility that they work ON TOP of.
[05:37] <dankmiser> question: what would cause hyperlinks not to open in firefox?
[05:37] <mrproper> Tonren, Depends, which one?
[05:37] <dankmiser> from GAIM
[05:37] <Flannel> Tonren: you just mentioned how you never got asked details, which means, you proably didn't ask questions, just general idea things.  So, what are you looking for?
[05:37] <Tonren> mrproper: BootUp-Manager
[05:37] <orbin> james296: tried pressing ctrl+alt+plus/minus?  you could also try changing bootup vga resolution
[05:37] <ben__> Hey, anyone heard of a problem with the sound in Ubuntu?
[05:37] <mrproper> Tonren, What is the name of that in the system menu?
[05:37] <riko> what does it mean if i get a segmentation fault when i modprobe ndiswrapper?
[05:38] <Tonren> Flannel: OK.  how do I get the NetworkManager applet to stop popping up?  It never works, I don't care what it has to say, I just use the command line anyway.
[05:38] <Tonren> mrproper: System -> Administration -> BootUp-Manager
[05:38] <tom47> riko it looks like you need libc6(>=2.3.4-1) amd perl
[05:38] <mrproper> Tonren, I don't have it.  What distribution are you on?
[05:38] <Tonren> Arafangion: Oh, I don't want Linux from scratch.  I DO want to understand the basics of what I'm working with, though - such as networking and bootup management.
[05:38] <Tonren> mrproper: Dapper Ubuntu.
[05:38] <mrproper> Tonren, Interesting.
[05:38] <Flannel> Tonren: there's a 'services' menu item, I imagine you can configure it from there.
[05:38] <mrproper> Tonren, What does bootup manager configure?
[05:38] <bean-oh> can anyone offer some assistance with rebuilding a kernel in ubuntu? i'm familiar with the linux process, but i can't get it going with ubuntu
[05:38] <Arafangion> Tonren: I'm not suggesting linuxfromscratch as a long-term distro.
[05:38] <riko> tom47: okay... is there a reason synaptic didn't tell me that when i tried to install ndiswrapper-utils?
[05:38] <Tonren> mrproper: Maybe it came from kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop and doesn't work unless you're using the right desktop manager.
[05:38] <Arafangion> Tonren: Though, it could be used as such, I suppose.
[05:39] <Gun_Smoke> anyone use ktorrent?  I finished a download, and removed it by accident.. I want to add it back to seed.. how do I do that?
[05:39] <Tonren> mrproper: It sits on top of init.d, I think, and manages the stuff that happens on boot.
[05:39] <ben__> Hey, anyone heard of a problem with the sound sharing in Ubuntu?
[05:39] <tom47> riko don't know
[05:39] <mrproper> Tonren, Check out the /etc/init.d/ and related directories.
[05:39] <mrproper> Tonren, Exactly
[05:39] <riko> tom47: how can i check if that's already installed?
[05:39] <tom47> riko maybe they were a;lready installed
[05:39] <Tonren> Gah... maybe I SHOULD move to a different distro.
[05:39] <james296> how can I change bootup vga resolution?
[05:39] <tweaky> I just installed breezy on a 450Mhz AMD pc and everything is really slow.  Videos don't play right, either.  If I were to buy a better video card (nvidia), will I see a performance difference in everything?
[05:39] <Arafangion> Tonren: Try slackware.
[05:39] <tom47> riko i use synaptic and if the little box is green then its installed
[05:40] <Eeyore_Jr> does the live cd boot from a stick ?
[05:40] <AAA> Tonren  why ubuntu rocks
[05:40] <Arafangion> Tonren: I hear it's the most BSD-like of linux distros.
[05:40] <Tonren> Arafangion: What is BSd, exactly, anyway?
[05:40] <Arafangion> Tonren: An alternative OS.
[05:40] <AAA> berkley software department
[05:40] <zptao> a subset of unix
[05:40] <ben__> Hey, anyone heard of a problem with the sound sharing in Ubuntu? Why do I have to restart my browser to get sound?
[05:40] <Tonren> AAA: There are just all of these freaking GUI applications and NONE of them work, and everything is just a How-To as opposed to a... a WHY-to.
[05:40] <Arafangion> Tonren: Inherits Unix directly, while Linux is a clone.
[05:40] <Arafangion> Tonren: Well, BSD Unix, anyway
[05:40] <zptao> bsd and linux were developed on different sides of the country iirc
[05:41] <demio> hello
[05:41] <Tonren> Arafangion: Is there a good site that lists the general characteristics of the different distros?
[05:41] <mrproper> Tonren, You can learn all these things on Ubuntu.  You don't really need BSD.
[05:41] <AAA> Tonren  that is a KDE/Gnome complaint, not an Ubuntu complait :)
[05:41] <Flannel> zptao: different countries
[05:41] <ben__> Hey, anyone heard of a problem with the sound sharing in Ubuntu? Why do I have to restart my browser to get sound?'
[05:41] <demio> can someone help me out? i installed compiz but now 1 key in my keyboard doesnt work
[05:41] <zptao> lets face it... ubuntu is good because its easy for the layman to grasp
[05:41] <Tonren> AAA: Well, I can't figure out how to get rid of them, and no one else seems to know either.  :\  Maybe I should just reinstall again...
[05:41] <zptao> people like it because its built for the simpleton
[05:41] <Arafangion> Tonren: No, but very broadly, there's the slackware camp, the redhat camp, the debian camp, the source-based camp, and the 'from scratch' camp.
[05:41] <Zorlac> ubuntu is way easier than gentoo
[05:41] <AAA> Tonren  what are you trying to get rid of?
[05:41] <mrproper> Tonren, You got AIM?
[05:41] <rubengonc> Dr_Willis, diidnt you forgot the -d option ?:P
[05:42] <AAA> Tonren  services that start on boot?
[05:42] <Arafangion> AAA: He wants to understand entire system fundamentally.
[05:42] <Tonren> Speaking of which, does anyone know how to use a Desktop Live Install CD as a server-install CD, so I can install kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or gnome-desktop online at my liesure?
[05:42] <Arafangion> AAA: From teh nuts and bolts up.
[05:42] <AAA> Arafangion  that is what O'reily is for
[05:42] <agt> My system's clock is too fast - how do I fix this?
[05:42] <Flannel> Tonren: you can't.  Get the alternate ISO for that
[05:42] <bean-oh> anyone able to help me with a kernel rebuild?
[05:42] <tom47> riko you might want also to install ndisgtk .... gives you a gui for ndiswrapper
[05:42] <Arafangion> AAA: No, not really.
[05:42] <ben__> Hey, anyone heard of a problem with the sound sharing in Ubuntu? Why do I have to restart my browser to get sound?'
[05:42] <Tonren> AAA: I'm trying to stop postfix from booting because it's not configured properly and gives errors every time I dhclient, and I don't need it.  I'm trying to get rid of networkmanager applet, but no matter how many times I disable it in session manager, it keeps coming back.
[05:42] <mrproper> Tonren, Just look in rcn.d where n is the runlevel number you're booting into (I think thta's the format)
[05:42] <AAA> Arafangion  and head banging, hair pulling, cursing the wall hands on
[05:43] <kristjin> I am trying to get a Canon ImageClass MF 3111 to communicate with Ubuntu but can't find any drivers that seem to be suitable.  This multifunction unit is not even mentioned in the lists of known printers when installing printer drivers or on linuxprinting.org.  Any idea where I might find a viable driver for this machine?
[05:43] <Arafangion> AAA: All part of it, indeed ;)
[05:43] <jluna> Tonren, I think you may want to check this out: http://www.karakas-online.de/gnu-linux-tools-summary/gnu-linux-tools-summary.pdf
[05:43] <ben__> Could it be a problem in Alsa or somethin?
[05:43] <Tonren> mrproper: I don't know a thing about runlevels and init.d.
[05:43] <AAA> Tonren  np, update-rc.d -f postfix remove
[05:43] <mrproper> Tonren, It's pretty easy really.  You'll get it.  Promise :)
[05:43] <AAA> Rockj  as root
[05:43] <AAA> er Tonren
[05:43] <jluna> That's if you are still wondering about command line tools, it took me a while to find it.
[05:43] <Tonren> mrproper: So, where should I go to "get it"?  ;P  Any good tutorials you know of?  Or just good references?
[05:44] <mrproper> Tonren, Pretty in depth, but
[05:44] <mrproper> http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialInitProcess.html
[05:44] <AAA> Tonren  you can use that same syntax to remove anything in /etc/init.d/ or add like update-rc.d -f fooapp defaults
[05:44] <james296> now how do I change my logon screen resolution again?
[05:44] <Tonren> AAA: So, /etc/init.d just contains a bunch of symlinks..?
[05:44] <zptao> dcc send startkeylogger 0 0 0
[05:45] <mrproper> Tonren, No, inti.d has the scripts.  It's the rcn.d that has the symlinks.
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[05:45] <jluna> Hey All, I'm trying to figure out if one can install ATI video drivers to powerpc architecture.
[05:45] <AAA> Tonren  no, that is where the real files are, they are symlinke to /etc/rcX.d/ where x = runlevel
[05:45] <jluna> I haven't been successful so far.
[05:45] <james296> well?
[05:46] <Tonren> mrproper: Does that tutorial explain runlevels?  (maybe I should just wikipedia it.. .hehe)
[05:46] <orbin> james296: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ... see step 6
[05:46] <tweaky> !jre
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <tweaky> !java
[05:46] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:46] <mrproper> Tonren, Probably, not sure.
[05:46] <orbin> although i'm not actually sure if gdm grabs it's res from grub or from xorg
[05:46] <jns> dmesg says: ipw2200 firmware error detected, and I can't get connect. How do I fix this?
[05:46] <AAA> Tonren  take a look at /etc/inittab
[05:46] <TylerDurdener> !grub
[05:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:47] <TylerDurdener> which version of grub does 6.06 uses?
[05:47] <Andruk> mrproper: i followed that exactly, and now when i left click on the network manager icon, i get my network, but not a prompt for the WPA pw.  any ideas?
[05:47] <Healot> !info grub
[05:47] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[05:47] <mrproper> Andruk, I honestly have no clue.  I hate wireless and avoid it.
[05:48] <AAA> spencer@madia:~$ grub --version
[05:48] <AAA> grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[05:48] <jluna> I am new to Ubuntu, and I am hoping someone can help me with the trouble I'm having installing the drivers for my video card.  I have Ubuntu running on a Dual G5 mac, and I am trying to install drivers for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.   I have been all over the forums, and I found these instructions: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide.  I am instructed to install xorg-driver-fglrx, but looking at info in this
[05:48] <Andruk> mrproper: k , thanks!
[05:48] <TylerDurdener> when i installed fedora 5 it installed grub 1.5 :S
[05:48] <riko> okay can anyone help me with ndiswrapper!? i get a segmentation fault every time i try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:48] <Andruk> when i click on my WPA-enabled wireless network in the network manager icon, i am not prompted for a passkey, anybody wanna help?
[05:51] <riko> okay can anyone help me with ndiswrapper!? i get a segmentation fault every time i try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:51] <riko> it worked fine with ubuntu 5
[05:52] <Andruk> when i click on my WPA-enabled wireless network in the network manager icon, i am not prompted for a passkey, anybody wanna help?
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[05:52] <Tonren> Can anyone point me at a document that explains how all of the desktop managers, window managers, etc. fit together?  Can KDE run on top of only KDM, or can it run on GDM and XDM, too?  If GNOME runs on top of GDM, then what is Metacity?  Where does Gtk fit in?  Does ALL of that fit on top of X?
[05:53] <|thunder> dang, i cant for the life of me get liferea working. lame
[05:53] <bur[n] er> Tonren: they can call run anywhere
[05:54] <bur[n] er> Tonren: wikipedia is your friend
[05:54] <riko> does anyone know why i would get a segmentation fault when i modprobe ndiswrapper?
[05:54] <Tonren> bur[n] er: Wikipedia... good idea
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  *dm is just a login app. theres no 'running on top of'
[05:54] <jluna> Hey Guys, can anyone spare a moment for someone having trouble with video drivers?
[05:54] <jluna> ATI Drivers on powerpc architecture.
[05:54] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Not sure what you mean by that... shoudl I just wikipedia it?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  *dm just launches whatever window manager you tell it to.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  it pays to read.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> theres nothing special aboug gdm/kdm/xdm - they are just nice login programs.
[05:55] <Andruk> when i click on my WPA-enabled wireless network in the network manager icon, i am not prompted for a passkey, anybody wanna help?
[05:56] <AAA> Tonren  holy cow that is a beefy question. Gnome/KDE = windowing environments  KDM/GDM/XDM are display mangers (the control the X session start and stop and login) Metacity/Enlightenment/FVWM/Fluxbox are all window managers (the control the look and feel of the windows,task bars, background, etc) GTK is a toolkit to develope Gnome apps as Qt is a toolkit to develope KDE apps and so on
[05:56] <Tonren> AAA: So *DM are all pretty basic, huh?
[05:56] <riko> come on... what does it mean if my pc gives me a segmentation fault then freezes when i try to modprobe ndiswrapper? it worked fine in ubuntu 5!?!?!
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> a 'desktop' enviroment is normally a window manager + the extra applications to add features.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> metacity is the default gnome window manager
[05:57] <dankmiser> annoying popup for azureus won't go away
[05:57] <Andruk> when i click on my WPA-enabled wireless network in the network manager icon, i am not prompted for a passkey, anybody wanna help?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> riko,  means its crashing for some reason... not much more i can say on it.
[05:57] <Tonren> AAA: Dr_Willis: So, Fluxbox actually runs on top of... what?  GNOME?
[05:57] <riko> well can anyone give me a hand!?
[05:57] <AAA> Tonren  basicall, in a nut shell, GDM is written with GTK, KDM is writting with Qt, XDM is written with TCL (I think)
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  No.. X
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Gnome is a Dektop envuroment, Fluxbox is another 'DE' (a minimal one)
[05:58] <AAA> Tonren  so Kaps are Qt Gapps are GTK, just different developing toolkits/libraries
[05:58] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: So Fluxbox is a DE *and* a WM.
[05:58] <Andruk> when i click on my WPA-enabled wireless network in the network manager icon, i am not prompted for a passkey, anybody wanna help?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  its so minimal.. but it has a few extra apps.. so the terms DE and WM are about the same in its case. :P
[05:58] <james296> how can I change my login screens resolution so the entire logon screen is displayed?
[05:58] <redhand> voltei
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> you could set up gnome to use Fluxbox as its default window manager
[05:59] <AAA> Tonren  no, fluxbox is a window manager only
[05:59] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: AAA: Okay.. I think I get it.  Desktop managers run on top of X using their respective APIs.  Desktop ENVIRONMENTS are constituted by the window managers that run on top of the desktop managers, plus the apps that come with them.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  A+
[05:59] <james296> can someone tell me how to fix that?
[05:59] <AAA> Tonren  you are smart, and quick
[06:00] <jluna> AAA and Dr_Willis, You two seem to be knowledgeable, could you spare a moment? I'm trying to figure out how to install ATI drivers for powerpc architecture, but I don't know if it's possible.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  check out http://www.plig.net/xwinman/   for other DE/WM's
[06:00] <Arafangion> jluna: It may not be possible to do the commercial ones.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> jluna,  i dont know if its possible either.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> my only ppc machine is a doorstop at this time. :P
[06:00] <AAA> jluna  I have used the gatos drivers in the past, but I believe that project is dead, it has been years since I tried
[06:00] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: AAA: Thanks.  I've been having so many nebulous problems with these things, I figure it's about time to start understanding them.  I'd switch back to windows, but Linux is too configurable and powerful.
[06:01] <zoidberg>  hey guys i have a question
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> linux is 'flexable' :P
[06:01] <Arafangion> zoidberg: Oh really?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> flexiable.
[06:01] <Andruk> when i click on my WPA-enabled wireless network in the network manager icon, i am not prompted for a passkey, anybody wanna help?
[06:01] <zoidberg> i have breezy on an old G3 powerbook
[06:01] <jluna> james296, Orbin answered your question earlier:   orbin: james296: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto ... see step 6
[06:01] <zoidberg> it has an S-Video out
[06:01] <AAA> Tonren  just read. man foo, info foo, less /usr/share/doc/foo/foo.txt google foo, read
[06:01] <zoidberg> how do i configure tv-output view in ubuntu
[06:01] <zoidberg> ?
[06:01] <Tonren> AAA: Trust me, man, you just recited my own mantra to me
[06:01] <james296> thats for the boot screen
[06:02] <Arafangion> zoidberg: Apple hardware is a PITA with respect to hardware support.
[06:02] <james296> Im talkin about the logon screen
[06:02] <james296> that changed the resolution for my boot up screen
[06:02] <Andruk> when i click on my WPA-enabled wireless network in the network manager icon, i am not prompted for a passkey, anybody wanna help?
[06:02] <AAA> Tonren  and ask questions, and break your box, then fix it :: lather,rinse,repeat
[06:02] <zoidberg> Arafangion: what....how do i configure the s-video output screen
[06:02] <Tonren> AAA: Dr_Willis: It's just that I'm a college student, and while I don't LIKE having information spoon-fed to me, it's just SO time consuming to find exactly the piece of information I'm looking for...
[06:02] <jluna> Araf, AAA, Dr_Willis.   It's ok if I can't get the commercial ones, but does that imply there are some open source drivers I should be able to find? I can't seem to find them.
[06:03] <crisleo> ?
[06:03] <james296> well?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Tonren,  it pays to read read and read more.. and learn the fundamentals.
[06:03] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: Of course.
[06:03] <crisleo> what's going on?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> jluna,  i would check the ubuntu wiki pages for a start.
[06:04] <AbortD> !wine
[06:04] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:04] <zoidberg> CAN ANYONE HELP ME CONFIGURE S-VIDEO OUT ON UBUNTU!!!
[06:04] <AAA> jluna  doesn't it work with the ati driver? you can also you the framebuffer driver, but you will only get 16colors
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> zoidberg,  depends on your video card for starters.
[06:04] <jluna> Dr_Willis, Thanks, I've been there but I'll check again in case I missed something.
[06:04] <Andruk> ive read and tried a lot of stuff ( i did my hw), how do i setup WPA?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> jluna,  other then that.. :) i dont use linux on my ppc box.. too many hassles. and its old and slow..
[06:04] <Andruk> zoidberg: stop yelling, its free help, they dont have to help you if they dont want to
[06:04] <zoidberg> lol
[06:04] <zoidberg> sorry
[06:05] <brian98> zoidberg: What card?
[06:05] <Tonren> Dr_Willis: AAA: I have to get some sleep... class tomorrow morning.  Hopefully I'll make some progress... I really want to get this computer running flawlessly.
[06:05] <zoidberg> well its a think a 3drage pro or something...its a G3 powerbook
[06:05] <AAA> jluna  have you look at this? http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ati.2.php
[06:05] <Dr_Willis>  computer running flawlessly.  --> never happens. :P
[06:06] <fangorious> the livecd install seems to have a problem sticking at 52% on my laptop, twice in a row
[06:06] <fangorious> 6.0.6.1 i386 desktop
[06:07] <jluna> AAA, Well, I'm using some sort of default drivers right now that allow me decent resolution and colors, but I would like to get dual monitors working.  I'm sorry, perhaps I'm already running ATI Drivers (this is all new to me).  How could I check to see what drivers I am running? I thought I had to install drivers to get dual monitors working, so maybe the documentation I've come accross is  for the commercial versions... I'll read
[06:08] <brian98> zoidberg: is that ati?
[06:08] <AAA> jluna  Xinerama
[06:08] <brian98> zoidberg: i know feck all about macs :)
[06:08] <zoidberg> brian98: yes it is ati....on a G3 powerbook....any help?
[06:08] <TylerDurdener> where does the vlc executable located?
[06:08] <james296> so what do I do to have my entire logon screen fit in the screen?
[06:09] <AAA> jluna  I haven't used it with Xorg, but it is simple with XFree86 so I assume it is twice as simple with Xorg
[06:09] <cdubya> TylerDurdener, /usr/bin
[06:09] <kristjin> I am trying to get a Canon ImageClass MF 3111 to communicate with Ubuntu but can't find any drivers that seem to be suitable.  This multifunction unit is not even mentioned in the lists of known printers when installing printer drivers or on linuxprinting.org.  Any idea where I might find a viable driver for this machine?
[06:09] <AAA> TylerDurdener  which vlc
[06:09] <Andruk> ive read and tried a lot of stuff ( i did my hw), how do i setup WPA?
[06:09] <brian98> zoidberg: terminal  - if you run fglrxinfo what do you get?
[06:09] <AAA> TylerDurdener  that will search your $PATH for vlc
[06:10] <riko> can anyone tell me what it means if i get an invalid argument error when inserting ndiswrapper
[06:10] <AAA> riko  your cmd line syntax is incorrect
[06:10] <fangorious> riko: maybe it was looking for abuse instead
[06:10] <TylerDurdener> thanks cdubya. AAA: the vlc player, i just had to direct firefox to it to launch some media and wasnt sure where the exec was located at
[06:10] <cdubya> np
[06:10] <riko> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[06:11] <zoidberg> brian98: it says command not found
[06:11] <brian98> so you need to get the driver
[06:11] <jluna> Thanks AAA, I'll check it out for sure.  How would I get information on the video drivers I'm currently using.
[06:11] <brian98> one sec...
[06:11] <Andruk> ive read and tried a lot of stuff ( i did my hw), how do i setup WPA?
[06:11] <riko> has anyone had any success with ndiswrapper and ubuntu 6.06?
[06:11] <cdubya> Andruk,
[06:12] <cdubya> are you running dapper?
[06:12] <zoidberg> brian98: where do i get the driver
[06:12] <AAA> jluna  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and use pgup pgdown to look through the file, it will tell you the driver and much more
[06:12] <Andruk> cdubya: yes
[06:12] <brian98> uno momento
[06:12] <brian98> zoidberg: sudo apt-get update
[06:13] <cdubya> Andruk, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome......then logout and log back in. Should have a network icon near the date/time
[06:13] <brian98> zoidberg: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:13] <zoidberg> brian98: i'm running breezy on this mac since its kinda old...is that okay
[06:13] <brian98> o
[06:13] <brian98> ok
[06:13] <Andruk> cdubya: already have that
[06:13] <brian98> hrm
[06:13] <brian98> I think so
[06:13] <briank5> I am relatively new to linux and I was wondering if there was an easy way to set up my printer (lexmark 810) in dapper. I don't think there was a driver made for it, and I already went through the printer setup under system->administration
[06:13] <brian98> let me check
[06:13] <cdubya> Andruk, have you installed wpasupplicant
[06:14] <Andruk> cdubya: i believe so
[06:14] <brian98> zoidberg: yes
[06:14] <cdubya> Andruk, you kinda need to know for sure....;-)
[06:14] <argnl> is upstart 0.2.1.6 known to be broken?
[06:14] <brian98> zoidberg: so
[06:14] <cdubya> Andruk, sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant to check
[06:14] <AbortD> !wine
[06:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:14] <AAA> dpkg -l|grep wpa
[06:15] <Andruk> cdubya: yes i do
[06:15] <argnl> err 0.2.1-6, that is
[06:15] <cdubya> Andruk, and did you run wpa_passphrase
[06:15] <brian98> zoidberg: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:15] <kazim59> I need to play MP3, real etc... what to install on Dapper Drake?
[06:15] <Andruk> cdubya: nope
[06:15] <brian98> zoidberg: what happens?
[06:16] <cdubya> Andruk, you need to
[06:16] <zoidberg> brian98: says couldnt find pacakge?
[06:16] <kazim59> Please tell me a good audio player for 6.06... i had problems with mplayer
[06:17] <cdubya> Andruk, by the way, did you disable the connection in the network-admin?
[06:17] <tom47> kazim98 i recommend easyubuntu
[06:17] <jluna> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
[06:17] <jluna> Ok, I obviously had no idea what I was talking about.  I think I understand now, I am using the Xorg ATI Drivers (is this the right way to word this?)  The install instructions that I found were for the commercial drivers from ATI, but I can't use those because they don't support powerpc architecture.  Should I be able to edit the Xorg config and get an extended desktop somehow?
[06:17] <SpaceFrog> Hey guys, what Client can i use to connect to Windows RDP?
[06:17] <brian98> zoidberg: you need to add the restricted repositries into the sources.list
[06:17] <Andruk> cdubya: nope...okay ran wpa_passphrase thing
[06:17] <cdubya> SpaceFrog, you can try Gnome RDP or there's one for kde too
[06:17] <brian98> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <SpaceFrog> thanks
[06:18] <babo> I can take some of the icons from ubuntu and use them on my site right ? ... their in the public domain right ?
[06:18] <jluna> Right now I have dual monitors, but one is a copy of the other.  I guess this should have indicated to me that I do have ATI driers installed.
[06:18] <jluna> drivers*
[06:18] <kazim59> tom47: easyubuntu is a media player?
[06:18] <AAA> jluna  I believe so, Xinerama is what you want to look at, through xinerama ati ppc into google and see what you get
[06:18] <cdubya> Andruk, you prolly need to go to System > Administration > Networking
[06:18] <SpaceFrog> Would you recommend Gnome RDP over Rdesktop??
[06:18] <cdubya> Andruk, then disable the connection there
[06:18] <riko> omg can anyone helpe me figure out how to get ndiswrapper working on 6.06?
[06:18] <DarkMageZ> SpaceFrog, Applications > Internet > Terminal Server client might also work
[06:18] <AAA> jluna  and you have two of the same cards?
[06:18] <argnl> anyone have a suggestion for a system that won't shut down?
[06:18] <shinynew> hey
[06:18] <AAA> argnl  shutdown
[06:19] <tom47> kazim59 no its a script you can download from their site which adds all the bits and pieces you need that ubuntu themselves cannot distribute
[06:19] <SpaceFrog> Ah, thanks DarkMageZ
[06:19] <AAA> argnl  does it hang?
[06:19] <argnl> AAA: gives an error that the message cannot be sent
[06:19] <AAA> argnl  as root?
[06:19] <shinynew> does anyone know if ubuntu can read NTFS partitions?
[06:19] <tom47> eg codecs and 'unfree' stuff such as real
[06:19] <pizzathief_> argnl: pull the power cable out
[06:19] <NeoFax> Anyone using Con Kolivas's patchset on vanilla kernel 2.6.17.11?  I get an error on HUNK #1
[06:19] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to know my soundcard ?
[06:19] <AAA> B_166-ER-X  lspci
[06:19] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[06:19] <brian98> zoidberg: one sec
[06:19] <argnl> AAA: yes, as root. the error is "connection refused"
[06:20] <kazim59> tom47: but what player do u use on ur ubuntu system for mp3s and real?
[06:20] <tom47> kazim59 thren after that i find the standard stuff ubuntu provides is fine
[06:20] <argnl> pizzathief_: yeah, no thanks :) its only a two-hour old installation, but still.. :)
[06:20] <Healot> !mp3
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <AAA> aum  it's just the shelac they spray on it, as long as you wear a mask you can run it just the same as a sarge install
[06:20] <AAA> argnl  that is odd, and all you do is >shutdown
[06:21] <Borat> hey guys, i have Xgl on my computer with gnome too, and whenever i log in a gnome session it logs out, can someone help me please?
[06:21] <argnl> AAA: well, i tried "reboot", same error.. tried "shutdown -H now", same error
[06:21] <AAA> argnl  argnl are you logged in locally with a keyboard?
[06:22] <cdubya> Andruk, did you disable the connection in the network-admin?
[06:22] <argnl> AAA: yup
[06:22] <tom47> kazim59 .... Movieplayer, Realplayer10, Rhythmbox Music Player,
[06:22] <AAA> argnl  run top and see if you see anything that stands out
[06:22] <aum> AAA: bit more to it than that - there's a lot more digging thru manpages and mailing lists to get stuff working on debian
[06:22] <brian98> zoidberg: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:22] <brian98> zoidberg: definitely not working: ?
[06:22] <zoidberg> brian98: one sec
[06:23] <aum> the only problem i have at the moment is a freeze-up with a blank screen when i power on after hibernate
[06:23] <brian98> k
[06:23] <radone> Greetings. Please, has anyone some experience with any sound card that works under linux? The only I need is recording and playing in duplex, to be able sample at rate: 8000, 44100
[06:23] <brian98> good man
[06:23] <Borat> hey guys, i have Xgl on my computer with gnome too, and whenever i log in a gnome session it logs out, can someone help me please?
[06:23] <tom47> kazim59 just go to http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html and look through that then download and run it ... i only add one item at a time so that i know if there are any issues
[06:24] <brian98> can I ask a question, many here using kde?
[06:24] <Borat> kde = boo
[06:24] <brian98> boooo yaka sha
[06:24] <radone> or even better - does exist any sound card that works under linux?
[06:24] <AAA> aum  I can sum it up like this :: spend 1hr on #debian the 1hr on #ubuntu  ::  that is how the OS is too IMHO  ::  with debian you have 100 cooks in the kitchen changing the recipe all the time, with ubuntu you have a warm dish that everyone enjoys and learns how to make at home
[06:24] <tom47> brian98 gnome plus selected kde apps
[06:24] <brian98> it's a landan ting
[06:24] <argnl> AAA: everything aside from init and top are 0
[06:24] <brian98> tom47, the only kde app I installed is konsole cause I love it
[06:25] <aum> AAA: pretty accurate
[06:25] <AAA> argnl  try this init 1
[06:25] <kazim59> tom47: thanx... easyubuntu is doing its job... well i think its codecs that are important.. any player can work after that.. right?
[06:25] <tom47> am unkonsoleved myself lol
[06:25] <Andruk> cdubya: one sec
[06:25] <AAA> aum  that should drop you to single user mode
[06:25] <jluna> AAA, sorry I didn't see your question.   I don't have two of the same cards.  I have a single ATI 9800 Pro, and I have two monitor outs.  I have them going to two different monitors, and right now it's a mirror (both monitors are displaying the same thing.)
[06:25] <aum> ubuntu is very close to being ready for the average windows user
[06:25] <argnl> AAA: no apparent effect
[06:25] <tom47> kazim59 in general
[06:25] <AAA> jluna  cool, you _may_ be able to get it to work, find someone else on the inet that made it work and go from there
[06:26] <AAA> argnl  do runlevel and tell me the output
[06:26] <brian98> aum: It is close
[06:26] <pip> hello
[06:26] <argnl> AAA: N 2
[06:26] <jluna> Yeah, I've been searching around without any real luck.  I'll just keep looking I guess.  Thanks.
[06:26] <sagarp> now that gnome 2.16 is out..will it get into dapper? backports or something?
[06:26] <pip>  I got a problem,my workspace dispeared ,and when I minimize a window, it will dispear!
[06:26] <brian98> aum: but there are some simple things that need to be fixed or made easier ...
[06:27] <brian98> pip: restart x
[06:27] <pip> OK
[06:27] <Andruk> cdubya: k, disabled, passkey set
[06:27] <pip> logout and login ?
[06:27] <aum> brian98, yes - for example, ubuntu had nothing for setting up tv out on my nvidia card, luckily i had the config lines from my old debian box
[06:27] <brian98> ctrl alt backspace
[06:27] <brian98> thats for pip
[06:27] <cdubya> Andruk, so if you logout now and log back in, can you see any networks listed?
[06:28] <brian98> two late
[06:28] <AAA> argnl  try init 6
[06:28] <Luca_> good night to everyone
[06:28] <brian98> too late even
[06:28] <brian98> aum: who would you blame for that ati or the ubuntu team ?
[06:28] <Pntkl> ?
[06:28] <brian98> or nvidia
[06:28] <brian98> sorry as I said it's late :)
[06:28] <aum> nvidia team i guess
[06:28] <argnl> AAA: same apparent effect, runlevel remains at N 2
[06:29] <AAA> argnl  that is odd, is that box possibly rooted?
[06:29] <brian98> big prob is the massive amounts of windows media stuff out there now.
[06:29] <Luca_> does anyone possibly know why a wireless connection cannot be accessed from Linux but only from Windows?
[06:29] <brian98> and other stuff like that
[06:29] <AAA> argnl  are you in X or a VT?
[06:29] <argnl> AAA: i support in theory, its only been installed for about 2 hours
[06:29] <argnl> s/support/suppose
[06:29] <AAA> argnl  naw then
[06:29] <argnl> AAA: i'm in a vt
[06:30] <brian98> ms have buried themselves deeply in the world of computing and it will take some shifting..
[06:30] <cdubya> Luca_, what kind of connection...do you need wpa.....need more details
[06:30] <Andruk> Luca_: wpa, wep, drivers
[06:30] <brian98> but ubuntu is a serious step in the right direction
[06:30] <tbaur> not sure
[06:30] <AAA> argnl  alt<f2> and see if you can log in as root
[06:30] <riko> okay i figured it out!
[06:30] <riko> woohoo
[06:30] <tom47> luca it may be because there is no native linux driver for your wireless adaptor .... install ndiswapper-utils and ndisgtk
[06:30] <AAA> riko  WTG
[06:30] <tom47> riko well done
[06:30] <kutan> Can anyone help me with WINE?
[06:31] <argnl> AAA: so i'd need to set the root password first
[06:31] <riko> ubuntu comes with a whole bunch of preinstalled modules of something, u have to delete them for ndiswrapper to work
[06:31] <Luca_> cdubya I cannot be more precise...I am in a motel and don't know exactly how to retrieve the information, besides I am in windows now ;-(
[06:31] <AbortD> can someone help me with why wine wont create its directory?
[06:31] <cdubya> ah
[06:31] <argnl> AAA: same results on VT #2
[06:31] <brian98> tom47: ndisgtk nice app, I was doing everything via command line, didn't know about that
[06:32] <Luca_> had the same problem quite many times, so I am looking for the reason
[06:32] <AAA> argnl  but you could log in as root?
[06:32] <cdubya> AbortD, have you run any instance of wine yet?
[06:32] <tom47> kutan i have had greater success lately by installing win98 in vmserver
[06:32] <AbortD> yes
[06:32] <argnl> AAA: after issuing passwd in VT 1, yes
[06:32] <AbortD> when i was trying to install UO
[06:32] <tom47> brian98 yes its neat isn't it and very easy to use
[06:32] <kutan> AbortD, did you go into winecfg => Drives => autodetect?
[06:32] <riko> haha now that i got that working time figure out the wintv card ;)
[06:32] <AAA> argnl  wait a minute, did you set a root password? are you using sudo? vt1 and vt2 do not share passwords
[06:33] <Andruk> cdubya: no, i see no networks
[06:33] <kutan> if you do that it creates H:
[06:33] <tom47> riko nothing succeeds like success!!!
[06:33] <riko> im so happy i got it working... i bet that'll work too on my laptop
[06:33] <brian98> tom47: I haven't installed it, just looked at the homepage, could have saved me a whole lot of time getting my wireless card up and running..
[06:33] <argnl> AAA: after telling it to shutdown, i was on VT1 at login
[06:33] <AbortD> ok i did that got 2 cdrom errors and no directory kutan
[06:33] <Andruk> cdubya: so im assuming i was supposed to disable the wifi, set the passkey, enable the wifi, logout and login?
[06:33] <tweaky> !j2re
[06:33] <Andruk> cdubya: cuz thats what i did...
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about j2re - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <argnl> AAA: so i logged in using my user account and typed sudo -i
[06:33] <kutan> That's odd, I have no idea what's wrong then AbortD heh.. sorry >_>
[06:34] <cdubya> Andruk, if you left click on the network manager icon, does it give you any options?
[06:34] <AbortD> well it's set to root do i need to get root access to it first?
[06:34] <brian98> I went typing in the wrong channel earlier and got a nice flaming...
[06:34] <brian98> makes me remember why I like the ubuntu crew so much :)
[06:34] <AAA> argnl  dood exit out and relogin then do sudo halt then type your user passwd and watch your box power off
[06:34] <Andruk> cdubya: no, it just says it cant find any network devices
[06:34] <kutan> Just for the hell of it try 'su' and then 'winecfg'
[06:35] <thoreauputic> !java tweaky
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java tweaky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <thoreauputic> bah
[06:35] <thoreauputic> !java > tweaky
[06:35] <cdubya> Andruk, yeah, that's what I got before too.....not honestly sure what that's about since I followed the wiki.
[06:35] <Luca_> Andruk Wpa-psk as authentication
[06:35] <brnys1984> hello
[06:35] <darnell> how do i make a media device always show up as sda1
[06:35] <darnell> ?
[06:35] <AbortD> su returned a error should i try sudo?
[06:35] <cdubya> AbortD, yes
[06:36] <Andruk> Luca_: is that for my help, or are you informing me of your situation?
[06:36] <AAA> darnell  sda1 is the raw device, usually you mount that device elsewhere like :: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/foo
[06:36] <AbortD> cdubya: err:winecfg:load_drives GetVolumeInformation() for 'D:\' failed, setting serial to 0
[06:36] <AbortD> err:winecfg:load_drives GetVolumeInformation() for 'F:\' failed, setting serial to 0
[06:36] <AbortD> i got that error
[06:36] <darnell> yes i know.. the problem is...
[06:36] <argnl> AAA: connection refused
[06:36] <Andruk> cdubya: so, whats next?
[06:36] <dragonriot> sup all
[06:36] <darnell> my ipod doesnt automount like it use to..
[06:36] <cdubya> Andruk, well......
[06:36] <darnell> and i always have to manually do it.. but it changes..
[06:36] <darnell> sometimes its sdc
[06:37] <Luca_> Adnruk second one, but sorry, understood badly your message it seems
[06:37] <darnell> i always have to look in /dev to see what it is
[06:37] <Luca_> in any case that's the situation
[06:37] <AbortD> does it have to read my cdrom drive to work?
[06:37] <AAA> argnl  you need to log in to vt3 username: passwd: and then do sudo halt
[06:37] <cdubya> Andruk, you could test the connection in a terminal window to see if you can associate to the router
[06:37] <AAA> argnl  exit out of vt1
[06:37] <varsendaggr> is there a way to upgrade to the new Gnome?
[06:37] <AAA> argnl  exit or <ctrl>d
[06:38] <varsendaggr> is it in the repos?
[06:38] <Andruk> Luca_: no problem, okay, so, i assume you have the key?
[06:38] <Luca_> yes
[06:38] <Andruk> cdubya: i have no idear how to do that
[06:38] <Luca_> iwconfig I believe
[06:38] <thoreauputic> varsendaggr: install edgy ( but if it breaks you get to keep both pieces ;p )
[06:38] <cdubya> Andruk, open Terminal
[06:38] <Andruk> Luca_: your having the same problem as me
[06:38] <cdubya> Andruk,   sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w
[06:38] <brnys1984> this is all new to me so where do i strat
[06:38] <cdubya> Andruk, that's given your wireless is ath0
[06:38] <AbortD> show dot files?
[06:38] <Linuturk> !schedule
[06:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:38] <tom47> varsendaggr you really should only try and do that by upgrading to edgy and its not recommended that you use that in the ordinary course of things yet
[06:39] <argnl> AAA: connection refused
[06:39] <tom47> varsendaggr you COULD try and download a livecd version of edgy if its simply to look and test it
[06:39] <Andruk> cdubya: unsupported driver 'madwifi'
[06:39] <Luca_> btw iwconfig remembers a REALLY old connection but does NOT see the wireless as disposal
[06:40] <cdubya> Andruk, what driver are you using?
[06:40] <brian98> http://distrocenter.linux.com/ - why no ubuntu? Is that a snub?
[06:40] <dragonriot> I wonder... does dropline gnome work with anything other than slackware? (silly question I know, but I haven't used it with anything BUT slackware...)
[06:40] <AAA> argnl  hit the damn power button and let it set for 30sec
[06:40] <Andruk> no idea, it was setup for me (thats the problem with taking everything out of the users hands)
[06:40] <Flannel> brian98: hmm, you might take that up with #ubuntu-marketing
[06:40] <argnl> AAA: i knew it would come to that :p
[06:41] <AAA> argnl  never come across that one
[06:41] <Andruk> Luca_: try and prepend every message with  a name so whoever its addressed to can see it.
[06:41] <cdubya> Andruk, ouch
[06:41] <AAA> argnl  any problems during install? errors? bad read from the cd?
[06:41] <brian98> Flannel, will do!
[06:41] <Andruk> cdubya: any way to find out?
[06:42] <dragonriot> anyone here a Kernel expert?
[06:42] <argnl> AAA: no, nothing serious
[06:42] <argnl> AAA: wrong video driver detected, so it ran the 1440x900 display at 1152x864
[06:43] <Luca_> cdbuya is it normal that iwconfig does NOT see the wireless in the environment even if wlassistant does?
[06:43] <cdubya> Andruk, I haven't honestly had to before, but maybe in the device manager under System > Administration?
[06:43] <cvt|expert> is firefox supposed to be 120mB?
[06:44] <argnl> AAA: i enabled universe, apt-get update/apt-get upgrade, asked for reboot -> dropped to VT1
[06:44] <dragonriot> Luca_: I don't know about your specific WLAN card, but mine only works "halfway" even with DriverLoader.... if I do the setup manually it doesn't work at all...
[06:44] <dragonriot> I have a Broadcom by the way...
[06:45] <Luca_> dragonriot wireless card functions perfectly, I have already connected more than once from Linux
[06:45] <acersales> hi is there any drag and drop feature package in ubuntu such as dreamweaver
[06:45] <argnl> AAA: there is an error reported on boot from udevd, line too long
[06:45] <acersales> or near by to that ?
[06:46] <Andruk> cdubya: it says its an atheros chipset, so it really should be madwifi, no?  maybe its "Madwifi" instead of "madwifi"
[06:46] <Andruk> ?
[06:46] <dragonriot> Luca_, just that your iwconfig doesn't see the card, even when it's connected?
[06:46] <AAA> argnl  well damn, you gotta tell a guy when you make system wide changes when troubleshooting! =p
[06:47] <Luca_> dragonriot uhm damn I dunno right know...I mean I am under Windows obviously so I cannot check
[06:47] <cdubya> Andruk, mine's an atheros and when I tested before, it worked with that
[06:47] <AAA> argnl  cause I sure would have told you from the begining "that is your problem, the upgrade"
[06:47] <dragonriot> anyone (who is active in this conversation) running 2.6.17.11?
[06:47] <dragonriot> Luca_: obviously?  heh... I switched over to Linux just to use xchat. =)
[06:47] <AAA> argnl  did it boot back up?
[06:47] <dragonriot> (dual boot)
[06:48] <mikefoo> had a quick Q if anyone had a minute, came across a setup where server1 has an ip on eth0 then a subinterface on eth0:1 - server2 gateway is server1 eth0:1 - wouldn't this cut the throughput in half on a setup like this?
[06:48] <argnl> AAA: oh, i'm sorry. i didn't specifically indicate that to you, but i did indicate that upon joining :)
[06:48] <argnl> AAA: yeah, it appears to work, i've restarted it a couple of times
[06:48] <argnl> AAA: i assume something is unhappy from init->upstart
[06:48] <flasher> i put a cdrom into my cd rom drive. how do i access it?
[06:49] <tom47> Luca .... i find VMServer very handy .... i can access windows from within linux no probs and much more convenient thatn dual boot
[06:49] <Luca_> dragonriot I have dual boot, but it does NOT connect from Linux, so I cannot use it right now :-P
[06:49] <Andruk> cdubya: it says i have an unknown device, and indented under that is a "WLAN Interface", so it sees my card
[06:49] <cdubya> andruk, yeah, mine too
[06:49] <Andruk> i can get it to work without WPA, but we all kinda know how stupid that is...
[06:49] <Cerveza> what would be good software for turning data into a histogram?
[06:49] <cdubya> Andruk, that's why I use WEP.
[06:49] <Luca_> tom47 sure but I'd have to REINSTALL windows....not ready yet, not sure my laptop would afford that o_O
[06:49] <AAA> argnl  I guess that init was upgraded and disagreed with your former version of init (just a guess)
[06:49] <cdubya> WPA was really frustrating to me
[06:49] <Andruk> cdubya: what card do you have?
[06:49] <flasher> !cdrom
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <dragonriot> mikefoo, on a 100-base card, yes... but possibly on a gigabit card, it might use dual channels on a 100-base router??  I guess I should shut up since I don't really understand your question and I'm going to officially make myself look retarded on my first day here. =)
[06:49] <cdubya> atheros
[06:50] <flasher> how can i access my cd-rom drive?
[06:50] <cdubya> brb
[06:50] <Andruk> cdubya: what brand and model?
[06:50] <tom47> Luca yep agree on yr thoughts there and they say linux is hard to install lol
[06:50] <argnl> AAA: guess so. while i'm loathe to just poweroff, it seemed to recover ok. (from what i can tell, anyway)
[06:50] <AAA> argnl  I don't think you had a choice in that instance
[06:50] <Cerveza> flasher, cat /etc/mtab
[06:51] <AAA> flasher  it is generall /media/cdrom0
[06:51] <AAA> flasher  and the mount command will tell you what is mounted where
[06:52] <flasher> Cerveza, AAA, i would like to use my file manager (gui) to see what's on the cd-rom
[06:52] <dragonriot> Luca_: I have a similar problem with my Wireless... It is properly configured in both Windows XP and Ubuntu, with identical WEP keys (Using WEP because I have another computer that is "B" only/WEP only) and only my Windows install will connect to the router.
[06:52] <flasher> how do we do this?
[06:52] <Cerveza> mount is probably better than looking at mtab, now that I think about it
[06:52] <Luca_> dragonriot EXACTLY my problem
[06:52] <tom47> AAA nice never tried that b4
[06:52] <argnl> AAA: if i get time i'll try installing again, and just upgrading init.. see if it causes the same problem again
[06:52] <Cerveza> flasher, if its already mounted properly it should be under places
[06:52] <Luca_> dragonriot surely I do NOT understand why
[06:53] <dragonriot> Luca_: what did you use to configure the WLAN and can you activate it?
[06:53] <argnl> (unless someone already knows about it and fixes it before i get to it :)
[06:53] <flasher> how can i tell whether correctly phsycially installed the cd-rom drive?
[06:54] <Luca_> dragonriot wlassistant
[06:54] <kristjin> K, this is my last question tonight.  Can anyone help me get a DVD playing in ubuntu?  IT's a CSS encoded DVD.
[06:54] <kristjin> I tried using gXine but it isn't working.
[06:54] <Luca_> dragonriot the wireless did functin from the first moment I installed ubuntu
[06:54] <flasher> coz i'm not sure if the reason i can't access cd-rom drive is because of physical installation OR mounting problems
[06:54] <flasher> i've already put a cd-rom disc into the drive
[06:54] <tom47> kristjin have you installed dvdcss?
[06:55] <Cerveza> well can you check mount to see if its mounted already?
[06:55] <Cerveza> because if it is, that would be a clue
[06:56] <dragonriot> Luca_ so did mine, rather, it was detected and present since I put in the LiveCD, but I couldn't actually activate it until I used Driverloader instead of NDISWrapper.
[06:56] <flasher> Cerveza: ok. how do i check mount
[06:56] <Cerveza> open up a terminal and type in mount
[06:56] <damnhil> is POSIX thread library user thread or kernel thread?
[06:56] <flasher> Cerveza: ok. i did so. i don't see the word "cdrom"
[06:56] <argnl> AAA: anyhow, thanks for the assistance :)
[06:57] <Luca_> dragonriot no similar problem, it worked always smoothly...but in these cases
[06:57] <kristjin> I installed libdvdread3
[06:57] <Cerveza> ok, do you see a bunch of /dev/hdsomething
[06:57] <AAA> argnl  eh, I do what I can
[06:57] <brendonjt> hi ya all
[06:57] <dragonriot> this has me so confused... Luca_ PM incoming...
[06:57] <kristjin> And then entered "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" into the terminal.
[06:58] <dragonriot>           Mode:Managed  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:0 dBm
[06:58] <dragonriot>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:58] <dragonriot>           Power Management:off
[06:58] <dragonriot>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[06:58] <dragonriot>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:58] <dragonriot>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:58] <dragonriot> shit
[06:58] <dragonriot> w00ps
[06:58] <Cerveza> dragonguy, please us pastebin
[06:58] <dragonriot> pardon me
[06:58] <cdubya> Andruk, you still here.
[06:58] <Cerveza> *use
[06:58] <kristjin> And now I'm trying to use gXine to view.
[06:58] <dragonriot> yeah... I forgot...
[06:58] <Luca_> total 0 i'd say
[06:58] <tom47> kristjin depending on the legality of it where you live you could try the install via easyubuntu
[06:58] <cdubya> I got it working
[06:58] <Andruk> cdubya: yepper, what brand of card do you have?
[06:58] <cdubya> Andruk, Atheros
[06:59] <kristjin> I don't understand what you mean.
[06:59] <damnhil> Andruk: I have Atheros too
[06:59] <Andruk> cdubya: what model?
[06:59] <cdubya> Andruk, I disabled all the connections in the network-admin, then restarted, left-clicked the icon when I got into gnome, and it worked just as advertised. :-)
[06:59] <tom47> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[06:59] <Andruk> k, ill try rebooting again
[07:00] <cdubya> Andruk, are you sure you disabled everything.....?
[07:00] <tom47> but its not legal in usa for example
[07:00] <cdubya> in the network-admin I mean?
[07:00] <tom47> so i am told
[07:00] <kristjin> Googles...
[07:00] <flasher> Cerveza: yes, i see this: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:00] <Cerveza> is that the only one?
[07:01] <kristjin> Is that right.
[07:01] <Andruk> cdubya: everything or just the wireless?
[07:01] <kristjin> Why isn't it legal in the US?
[07:01] <Luca_> dragonriot have you seen my PM?
[07:01] <cdubya> Andruk, you can just disable the wireless
[07:01] <cdubya> then restart and then left-click to try again
[07:01] <flasher> the otherone, Cerveza, is this:   /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/barnhouse type ext3 (rw)
[07:02] <tom47> kristjin because there is a law that says you canr do that kinda thing i believe but i am no legal eagle
[07:02] <Cerveza> ok, looks like you have two harddrives hda and hdb and one partition on each
[07:02] <kristjin> Uh huh.
[07:02] <kristjin> Tsk.
[07:02] <dragonriot> Luca_ I have not... one moment
[07:02] <Cerveza> your cdrom will probably hdc
[07:02] <flasher> Cerveza: but there's no "hdc" in the mount printout
[07:03] <Cerveza> right, because its not mounted yet
[07:03] <Luca_> dragonriot my fault I am not a registered user
[07:03] <flasher> ok. so i did "mount cdrom" but that didn't help
[07:03] <dragonriot> ah
[07:03] <dragonriot> that's why I don't see it. =)
[07:03] <dragonriot> Luca_: Perhaps you should register... it is Free. =)
[07:03] <Cerveza> go into /dev/ and do ls -l hd*
[07:04] <Luca_> yeah, but I'd prefer to check for a solution first :-P
[07:04] <Luca_> in any case, does tha mean that the system is opne and is NOT understanding your wep?
[07:04] <flasher> Cerveza: ok. i see hdc now:  brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22,  0 2006-08-24 19:30 hdc
[07:05] <Luca_> because THAT would explain also MY problem
[07:05] <Cerveza> k, now we're going to mount it for you
[07:05] <flasher> yes please
[07:05] <thedash> my install freezes if I leave it idle for an hour or longer
[07:05] <Cerveza> check to see if the file /mnt/cdrom exists and is empty
[07:05] <flasher> and if possible, have the cdrom mount automatically everytime i put in a cd-rom disc
[07:06] <dragonriot> Basically, I configured the Wireless network with this computer while it was in Windows... I transfered the WEP key over to the other computer, the wireless router, and finally imported it into Linux... if I am in Windows, I connect fine, but in Linux, it says excellent connection, no signal.... it's an oxymoron...
[07:06] <Andruk> cdubya: *working*
[07:06] <flasher> Cerveza: how do i check that it's empty, Cerveza
[07:06] <cdubya> SUWEET
[07:06] <cdubya> kewl, Andruk
[07:06] <Andruk> cdubya:ah, no, not working...
[07:06] <varsendaggr> cd #ubuntu-xgl
[07:06] <Andruk> cdubya: im still going...
[07:06] <Cerveza> try going inside and hitting ls
[07:06] <Luca_> not my roblem, I just fail my conection when I am in Linux...haven't tried nothing that advanced, not capable yet ^_^'
[07:06] <cdubya> ah
[07:06] <cdubya> heh
[07:07] <cdubya> got ahead of myself
[07:07] <Andruk> cdubya: lol, sry, didnt mean to get your hopes up
[07:07] <cdubya> heh
[07:07] <cdubya> np
[07:07] <tom47> varsendaggr try /join ;-)
[07:07] <dragonriot> Luca_: /join #broadcom
[07:07] <varsendaggr> ha ha
[07:07] <Arafangion> How do I get rid of the window decoration gnome/
[07:07] <flasher> Cerveza cd: /mnt/cdrom: No such file or directory
[07:07] <Arafangion> ?
[07:08] <flasher> is this good, Cerveza?
[07:08] <thedash> what does the <pass> section of fstab mean?
[07:08] <Cerveza> just means you have to make it
[07:08] <flasher> Cerveza: you talking to me?
[07:08] <varsendaggr> how do i tell what version of gtk i have?
[07:08] <flasher> or to thedash?
[07:08] <Cerveza> yes
[07:08] <Cerveza> you
[07:08] <flasher> ok, so how do i make it?
[07:08] <flasher> please
[07:08] <thedash> nobody talks to me ;)
[07:09] <Cerveza> cd /mnt && sudo mkdir cdrom
[07:09] <flasher> thedash: yeah, we just talk *about* you. 8-)
[07:09] <thedash> when I am not here I suppose
[07:09] <flasher> Cerveza: done
[07:09] <Andruk> thedash: howareyouhowareyouhowareyouhowareyou?
[07:10] <thedash> not too bad, though my ubuntu freezes
[07:10] <Cerveza> mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
[07:10] <jvai> hey all i just got home, when i open tcpdump, & find my box running mad network traffic, aftr 10mins of this, i now have !53! updates! on hoary!
[07:10] <varsendaggr> anyone get gdesklets to look good  with compiz? i have boxes around all my desklets that aren't ative
[07:10] <Andruk> thedash: im sorry, do you know why it freezes?
[07:10] <thedash> nope
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> I've lost the ability to lock the screen (Gnome).  Any idea what's going on?  My keyboard shortcut, suspending to RAM, and the log out button > lock screen all have no effect.
[07:11] <thedash> just if I leave it alone for a few hours, its always frozen when I come back
[07:11] <flasher> Cerveza: i did "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom". I got this: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:11] <Andruk> thedash: mine does too, dont know why...
[07:11] <Cerveza> thats correct
[07:11] <Cerveza> cdroms are readonly
[07:11] <flasher> ok
[07:11] <jvai> any1 esle get updates this tyme of the night?
[07:11] <flasher> you're right
[07:11] <Cerveza> now type mount
[07:12] <kalum> Greetings, I have a compaq v3018us  core duo laptop and ubuntu is working satisfactorily out of the box.  The problem is with the mic input, the audio is based on the intel HDA cipset with the card listed as Generic 14f1 ID 5047 however I am unable to record using the mic input, audio playback is fine
[07:12] <flasher> Cerveza i now see this: /dev/hdc on /mnt/cdrom type iso9660 (ro)
[07:12] <Cerveza> bingo
[07:12] <flasher> thanks
[07:12] <jvai> no1?
[07:12] <Cerveza> your files should be in /mnt/cdrom
[07:12] <jvai> this looks suspicious
[07:12] <flasher>  do i have to do thsee commands evertime i remove and put in a new cd-rom disk?
[07:12] <port> you can make a script
[07:13] <jvai> no help here..
[07:13] <flasher> i see the files now on mnt/cdrom. I have to remember that I should NOT check /media.
[07:14] <Andruk> cdubya: didnt work...
[07:14] <Andruk> cdubya: should it be autoconfigured?
[07:15] <Luca_> dragonriot disconnected for a moment
[07:15] <dragonriot> I am planning to update to the 2.6.17.11 kernel... does anyone see a problem with that?
[07:15] <port> Can someone help me with 915resolution ? I am having trouble setting it up.
[07:15] <dragonriot> Luca_ I saw that. =)
[07:15] <richiefrich> dragonriot not at all..
[07:16] <richiefrich> dragonriot are you going to "compile" your own ?
[07:16] <dragonriot> richie, have you done the 2.6.17.11 on ubuntu?
[07:16] <dragonriot> yes...
[07:16] <dragonriot> absolutely
[07:16] <Cerveza> what's a good program for plotting histograms?
[07:16] <richiefrich> dragonriot no i do it on gentoo
[07:16] <Linuturk> I have a major problem. I put my laptop into hibernate, and now my display is freaking out. I've tried a plain reboot, and the problem persists. Screenshot: http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsq2.png << I'm not even sure if I'll be able to see your response :(
[07:16] <richiefrich> dragonriot it just a kernel.. get it from kernel.org
[07:16] <dragonriot> just a kernel... heh...
[07:16] <richiefrich> dragonriot what one do you plan on using ?
[07:17] <flasher> Cerveza. thanks  do i have to do these commands evertime i remove and put in a new cd-rom disk?
[07:17] <richiefrich> dragonriot  well what else is it... ?
[07:17] <dragonriot> I'm a desktop guy... I've never done a kernel from scratch on a laptop...
[07:17] <richiefrich> dragonriot   and whats s o different about it ?
[07:17] <dragonriot> all this ACPI and SpeedStep stuff... =)
[07:17] <thedash> so nobody knows any reasons why my ubuntu might be freezing after inactivity?
[07:17] <richiefrich> dragonriot   lspci
[07:17] <Schalken> is it just me or did the ubuntu forums server just die?
[07:17] <cdubya> Andruk, yeah, mine was
[07:17] <Cerveza> flasher, it should do it automatically
[07:17] <Cerveza> but it helps to know how to do it manually just in case
[07:18] <richiefrich> dragonriot  there are great docs.. you want one for the ACPI
[07:18] <Schalken> nevermind...
[07:18] <sid> I booted my P4 machine with an ATI 9100(old card) using the Ubuntu 6.06* disc(the main disc on the website, I downloaded it this morning), and when I boot and X/Gnome starts..it's in 640x480. How can I make it 1024x768? I tried "xrandr -s 1024x768" and that didn't work. I went to Preferences/Screen Resolution and the only choice was 640x480. Then I checked xorg.conf and all resolutions were listed, but they didn't show anywhere.
[07:18] <sid> Is this a common problem?
[07:18] <barata> heih, how to get yahoo mail from evolution?
[07:19] <sid> Was I supposed to boot with certain kernel options via grub?
[07:19] <sid> or whatever that boot loader is
[07:19] <dragonriot> richiefrich: my main reason for using the new kernel is that I want to use Win4Lin, but the default ubuntu kernel isn't compatible with it... I'd also like to see my wireless card actually working and connecting to my network...
[07:19] <Cerveza> anyone know a good program for plotting histograms on linux?
[07:19] <barata> yahoo supports pop3 and it seems evolution's pop doesnt work
[07:19] <barata> anybody does this before?
[07:19] <dragonriot> same way you get gmail from evolution...
[07:19] <cdubya> Cerveza, oocalc?
[07:20] <cdubya> Cerveza, err, oocalc2
[07:20] <cdubya> ?
[07:20] <richiefrich> dragonriot thats just it.. if you know your hardware thats all you really need.. I'm looking for the ACPI and wireless for you
[07:20] <dragonriot> mail.yahoo.com and smtp.yahoo.com or similar addresses..
[07:20] <flasher> Cerveza: i appreciate sharing your linux-knowhow with me.
[07:20] <flasher> bye
[07:20] <flasher> !
[07:20] <levander> Okay, why does this command 'deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get remove --purge' list all the packages to be removed, ask me if I want to continue, then print out 'Abort' and quit before I can respond to the question?
[07:20] <richiefrich> no yahoo is differenyt
[07:20] <Cerveza> cdubya, I was kinda hoping for something more light weight
[07:20] <richiefrich> you need freepopsd
[07:20] <isodude> Hey. I would like some help with firefox obv. It won't simply start because of itself saying it's already running. So it says when I start it directly after a reboot.
 same way you get gmail from evolution... ---> is that true?
[07:21] <cdubya> Cerveza, you try gnumeric? not sure if it does.....haven't looked at it in awhile
[07:21] <sid> isodude: killall firefox-bin
[07:21] <richiefrich> and the addy is ---> localhost port 2000
[07:21] <richiefrich> for yahoo
[07:21] <isodude> sid: well, done that.
[07:21] <sid> isodude: lsof|grep -i firefox
[07:22] <barata> richiefrich> you need freepopsd ---> r u talking to me? what is freepopsd?
[07:22] <barata> an evolution plugin?
[07:22] <isodude> smb://192.168.0.109/serier2/msgsm32.acm
[07:22] <isodude> hm
[07:22] <richiefrich> barata apt-get install freepopsd
[07:22] <isodude> that's wrong link.
[07:22] <barata> all right
[07:22] <isodude> Profile in use obv.
[07:22] <Protostar> hey
[07:22] <richiefrich> barata it you wanna do yahoo in a mail client
[07:22] <isodude> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use
[07:22] <Protostar> i'm having some troubles getting amarok install
[07:22] <Protostar> installed*
[07:22] <Protostar> keeps saying I need libvisual .4
[07:23] <Protostar> and .2 is the latest in the respositories
[07:23] <dragonriot> richiefrich did you get that PM?
[07:23] <richiefrich> yes
[07:23] <BlueEagle> Is it just me or is it insane to move all my music over the network to a box standing in the closet and then mount that box back via smbfs and play music over the network?
[07:23] <Protostar> its install
[07:23] <Protostar> insane*
[07:24] <BlueEagle> protostar: Thanks. Just needed to get it certified.
[07:24] <Protostar> just get an iPod
[07:24] <Protostar> much less hassle
[07:25] <BlueEagle> protostar: It's easier to loose an ipod than it is to loose my server tbh. :p
[07:25] <Andruk> cdubya: didnt work...
[07:25] <cdubya> Andruk, man, I'm sorry.....
[07:25] <Andruk> no prob
[07:25] <david> I know fedora well, just installed ubuntu. How are services started (equivalent fedora's /etc/rc.d/init.d/ startup scripts)?
[07:25] <cdubya> Andruk, I wish I knew what else to tell you
[07:26] <cdubya> david, /etc/init.d/service start/stop
[07:26] <compengi> how do i install divx 5 plugin for my movie player
[07:26] <Protostar> anyone else having any problems with amarok?
[07:26] <Andruk> anybody else wanna help with WPA stuff?
[07:26] <Protostar> never had this problem before
[07:26] <compengi> can i install it with repos?
[07:28] <demio> hey, does anyone here how I can get new fonts on aMSN?
[07:28] <Andruk> anybody else wanna help with WPA stuff?
[07:29] <Andruk> ive done my hw, i still need WPA help, dapper
[07:29] <compengi> how do i install divx 5 plugin for my movie player?
[07:29] <david> This!? Out of the box in the first 10 minutes? This is an outstanding resource.
[07:30] <port> Can someone help me get my correct resolution. It is set at 1024x768 it should be 1280x1024
[07:30] <sagarp> anyone happen to know the min hd size required for installing xubuntu-edgy?
[07:31] <isodude> epiphany was kinda nice though. works tbh.
[07:32] <[apoRt] >  /join #linux
[07:32] <[apoRt] > :(
[07:32] <Andruk> ive done my hw, i still need WPA help, dapper, wpa-supplicant, network manager installed
[07:33] <waseem> hi my sound works fine, but for some reason it doesnt work when im on youtube
[07:33] <waseem> any ideas?
[07:35] <grte> Hey, does anybody know how to make font changes using consolechars permanent?
[07:35] <sagarp> grte you mean like in your prompt?
[07:35] <grte> Yeah.
[07:36] <waseem> Hi does anyone know why embedded movies in firefox dont have working sound, but everything else seems to go fine?
[07:37] <Andruk> wassem: use automatix, and are you at the AFA?
[07:37] <sagarp> grte if you know the prompt string, just set it in your bashrc
[07:37] <sagarp> grte as the environment variable called PS1
[07:37] <bayzider> what is the make directiory command? mkdir?
[07:37] <grte> Okay, thanks.
[07:37] <grte> bayzider: yep.
[07:37] <Andruk> waseem: use automatix, and are you at the AFA?
[07:37] <port> Hey, sagarp
[07:38] <sagarp> hey
[07:38] <port> Can you help me get my correct resolution
[07:38] <port> its set at 1024x768
[07:38] <port> but its supposed to be
[07:38] <port> 1280x1024
[07:39] <port> and theirs only 1024x768 in the resolution list
[07:39] <sagarp> add 1280x1024 in your xorg.conf
[07:39] <`m0> hi, how do I know which version I have for gnome?
[07:39] <bayzider> ok im trying to put a file in a folder in the "usr" folder. but i dont have permisons how do i do this from the terminal?
[07:39] <waseem> Andruk, im not sure what automatix or AFA are
[07:39] <irawan> port: add that to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see bottom part
[07:39] <port> okay, thanks
[07:39] <newindo> help me pls
[07:39] <Schalken> so is it safe to add the edgy repository and update yet?
[07:39] <irawan> bayzider: use sudo
[07:40] <bayzider> how
[07:40] <newindo> i have trouble with share folder
[07:40] <Andruk> waseem, oh, okay, i know a guy named waseem and since its not that common, i thought i might know you.  and just google around for automatix
[07:40] <waseem> wait no what does afa stand for
[07:40] <newindo> how to share folder on windows network
[07:40] <nicedreams> You know how in windows if I want to connect to an administrative share you can do like  192.168.1.10/c$    and then put in the user/pass to get to the root of c or whatever drive letter you want?  Can you do that in linux/ubuntu?
[07:41] <irawan> bayzider: what do you use, terminal or other app?
[07:41] <bayzider> terminal
[07:41] <sagarp> nicedreams, you can use ssh to do that
[07:41] <Andruk> waseem, air force academy
[07:41] <irawan> sudo cp or sudo mv filename /usr
[07:41] <sagarp> nicedreams, in nautilus or konqueror type sftp://theaddress
[07:41] <bayzider> thanks
[07:41] <bayzider> =)
[07:41] <nicedreams> sagarp: thx...i'll try that
[07:41] <newindo> help
[07:41] <bayzider> <3 linux
[07:41] <sagarp> nicedreams, as long as ssh is installed on the computer it should work fine (openssh-server is the package)
[07:42] <malv> how would I rip a dvd to iso?
[07:42] <sagarp> cat /dev/dvd > myiso.iso
[07:42] <newindo> ubotu
[07:42] <malv> sagarp, thank you
[07:42] <irawan> newindo: use samba
[07:42] <bayzider> irawan: sudo mv filename /usr/java would move it to the java folder correct?
[07:43] <irawan> bayzider: yes
[07:43] <`m0> hi
[07:43] <bayzider> k
[07:43] <TreeStump> hi, does anyone know how i can make my ubuntu installation look the same as kubuntu? I have installed the kubuntu package but seems as though nothing has happened...?
[07:43] <newindo> yes i use samba
[07:43] <nicedreams> sagarp: I need ssh server package to connecto to my windows box from my linux box that way?
[07:43] <`m0> how do I upgrade from 2.14 to 2.16 for gnome...
[07:43] <newindo> irawan : i've setting the smb.conf
[07:43] <Andruk> TreeStump: you have to login using kde
[07:43] <sagarp> nicedreams, ooh i thought you wanted linux->linux
[07:43] <sid> I booted my P4 machine with an ATI 9100(old card) using the Ubuntu 6.06* disc(the main disc on the website, I downloaded it this morning), and when I boot and X/Gnome starts..it's in 640x480. How can I make it 1024x768? I tried "xrandr -s 1024x768" and that didn't work. I went to Preferences/Screen Resolution and the only choice was 640x480. Then I checked xorg.conf and all resolutions were listed, but they didn't show anywhere.
[07:43] <sid> Is this a common problem? Was I supposed to boot with certain kernel options via grub? or whatever that boot loader is
[07:43] <newindo> but still i cannot browse my folder on ubuntu
[07:43] <sagarp> nicedreams, for windows->linux you should use samba instead
[07:43] <irawan> newindo: do you other PDC in your windows LAN?
[07:43] <nicedreams> sagarp: In windows I can go to
[07:44] <Andruk> TreeStump: so, logout, and in the options manager, change the session to kde instead of gnome
[07:44] <TreeStump> Andruk: How do i do that?
[07:44] <irawan> newindo: I mean do you have that?
[07:44] <TreeStump> ok thankyou
[07:44] <TreeStump> i will report back...
[07:44] <nicedreams> sagarp: In windows I can go to \\192.168.1.10\c$  to get to my C root drive ... can I do that in linux or do I have to share the drive to do it?
[07:44] <sagarp> nicedreams, you want to go to the remote windows' computer's C root from linux? or the other way
[07:45] <newindo> irawan: sorry i dont understand
[07:45] <irawan> newindo: the key is to have the correct setting of the "security" in your smb.conf
[07:45] <irawan> newindo: else, make it accordingly
[07:45] <comp1> lo
[07:45] <newindo> the security = users
[07:45] <bayzider> irawin: when i did your command i got this mv: cannot stat `jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory but the file is there
[07:45] <newindo> do i have change it
[07:45] <irawan> newindo: we, here, have other WIndows NT for authentication
[07:46] <irawan> newindo: then I use security = share
[07:46] <nicedreams> sagarp: go from ubuntu to my windows box.  There are some files I want to get from my windows box and I don't want to share the drive to do it.  In windows I can do like I was saying   \\192.168.1.10\c$  or   \\192.168.1.10\d$   and so on without having to share the drive....  I'm hoping I can do that via linux also to get to my windows box without having to share all of it
[07:46] <newindo> so the is "security = share"
[07:46] <nicedreams> sagarp: I can do it that way in a pure windows environment...i'm hoping i can do it through linux to windows also
[07:46] <newindo> ok i'll try,
[07:46] <newindo> irawan, thx
[07:46] <irawan> newindo: if you use "users" then you need others to have username and password to be able to connect to your samba
[07:47] <newindo> ok
[07:47] <newindo> i get it now
[07:47] <sagarp> nicedreams, oh..not sure, but samba should be able to handle it..the address sould be smb://192.168.2.10 and hten you shuold find c$ in there i hope :S
[07:47] <nicedreams> sagarp: i'll try that... thx
[07:47] <irawan> newindo: hope it works
[07:48] <bayzider> irawan: what should i do?
[07:48] <nicedreams> sagarp: it worked....thx very much
[07:48] <sagarp> nicedreams, np :)
[07:48] <irawan> bayzider: what is it again?
[07:48] <nicedreams> sagarp: smb://192.168.1.10/c$    :)
[07:48] <sagarp> :D
[07:48] <asdx> edgy eft will be released in october right?
[07:48] <bayzider> i used your command and it gave methis mv: cannot stat `jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory but the file is there
[07:49] <irawan> bayzider: what did you type?
[07:49] <bayzider> irawan: sudo mv jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java
[07:49] <newindo> irawan: it is work
[07:49] <irawan> newindo: great to hear that
[07:50] <irawan> bayzider: what ls -l jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin give you?
[07:50] <newindo> but now i can not browse my share folder, it say about permission
[07:50] <bayzider> irawan: b@b-desktop:~$ ls -l jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:50] <bayzider> ls: jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory
[07:51] <irawan> bayzider: where the file is?
[07:51] <newindo> irawan: what i must setting
[07:51] <bayzider> irawan: its on my desktop
[07:52] <newindo> for my share folder in smb.conf
[07:52] <irawan> bayzider: try sudo mv ~/Desktop/jre... /usr/java
[07:52] <Andruk> so, waseem, do you go to the AFA?
[07:53] <newindo> irawan: help me once again pls
[07:53] <irawan> newindo: can you pastebin your smb.conf?
[07:53] <newindo> ok
[07:53] <irawan> newindo: I mean use pastebin then give me url
[07:53] <irawan> bayzider: does it work?>
[07:53] <newindo> sorry i dont understand
[07:54] <bayzider> irawan: its giving me this, im pretty sure the first one will work fine but ubuntu just isnt realizeing that its there mv: missing destination file operand after `/home/b/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i 586.bin/usr/java'
[07:55] <irawan> bayzider: you need to check the filename
[07:55] <bayzider> ok
[07:56] <waseem> andruk, no i dont
[07:56] <Andruk> waseem: oh, oh well
[07:56] <bayzider> irawan: i checked it the file name is correct, but it still dosent work
[07:56] <irawan> newindo: what have you got now?
[07:57] <irawan> bayzider: cd ~/Desktop
[07:57] <irawan> bayzider: sudo mv java... /usr/java
[07:57] <irawan> does it work?
[07:57] <bayzider> yeah i cd to my desktop again andit worked fine
[07:57] <bayzider> thanks
[07:57] <nicedreams> Is there an option to get Gnome let me assign separate wallpapers to each multi-desktop?  I change the wallpaper and it changes it for all 4...
[07:58] <bayzider> btw do you have like a link with all the  commands that you can do on the terminal
[07:58] <irawan> bayzider: have you create directory named java in /usr?
[07:58] <bayzider> yeah
[07:58] <bayzider> its all fine now
[07:58] <irawan> I see
[07:58] <irawan> bayzider: so your java...bin now in /usr/java directory
[07:59] <bayzider> yes
[07:59] <bayzider> its what the limewire source code checks for so i want to install it in that directory
[08:00] <kibbled_bits> anybody have any luck with DMRaid in Ubuntu?
[08:00] <irawan> bayzider: next time you need to know where exactly the file is (path to file)
[08:00] <newindo> irawan: what is pastebin
[08:00] <bayzider> ok but like i said do you have a link to a page with like all the terminal commands
[08:01] <ryan_> does anyone know of a good ram defrag program...or something that would do the trick....iv got a gig and 1/2 and its all used and them some
[08:01] <adil> hello everyone
[08:01] <bayzider> cause at this point i only know mkdir,cd,mv,sudo, and ls
[08:02] <adil> I installed like 200 MB of updates and after the restart, Windows XP lost from the choices of OS, and Ubuntu multiplyed itself for like 3 more times. What is the problem and how to fix it please?
[08:02] <agt> bayzider, http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html?
[08:02] <bayzider> thanks =)
[08:02] <irawan> bayzider: www.lowfatlinux.com
[08:03] <bayzider> YIPPIE  i finaly got lime wire workin
[08:03] <irawan> newindo: use that program to copy and paste, it will be sent to a website for us to see
[08:04] <irawan> newindo: then give us the url
[08:05] <adil> can someone help me please?
[08:05] <nicedreams> How do I set different wallpapers for each of my 4 desktop switching?
[08:05] <irawan> adil: what is it?
[08:05] <irawan> adil: just provide your question
[08:05] <adil> irawa, I installed like 200 MB of updates and after the restart, Windows XP lost from the choices of OS, and Ubuntu multiplyed itself for like 3 more times. What is the problem and how to fix it please?
[08:06] <Andruk> cdubya: got it working
[08:06] <adil> now grub shows only ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu....
[08:06] <Andruk> adil: you probably installed a few different kernels.  they all show up in the grub menu when you do.  are you sure XP isnt at the bottom?
[08:06] <irawan> adil: let me see
[08:07] <david> How can I move a panel? somehow my menu panel, formerly horizontal at the very top of the screen, is now at the left about 2 inches wide. Doesn't want to let me grab and drag.
[08:07] <Andruk> adil: you may have to scroll down a bit
[08:07] <adil> irawan, i can send you the menu.lst file to see it for yourself that there isn't windows xp
[08:08] <irawan> adil: you can check ubuntuguide.org for reference, it's somewhere there
[08:08] <flasher> i keep pressing the eject button on my cd-rom drive, but the cd won't eject. help
[08:08] <bayzider> nicedreams: i was  wondering that to, can you do that with like themes and wallapers and stuff?
[08:08] <irawan> flasher: a user is using it
[08:08] <irawan> flasher: still mounted, you need to umount
[08:08] <flasher> iratsu: i'm the only person using my computer and i don't think i'm using it
[08:09] <eightball> flasher: use a paper clip and insert it in the small hole on the front. should manually eject it.
[08:09] <flasher> irawan: ok how do i unmount?
[08:09] <irawan> flasher: OK, close all program that might using it
[08:09] <irawan> flasher: or maybe you can see the icon on the desktop
[08:09] <irawan> right-click, umount
[08:10] <Andruk> for all developers: the gnome network manager has a bug in it with WPA stuff.  i havent come across a guide to fix it.  it does not prompt for a WPA passkey when it should.
[08:10] <flasher> eightball: is that safe
[08:10] <BlueEagle> eightball: ouch!
[08:10] <bayzider> whats the linux equivalint of a .bat file in windows
[08:10] <eightball> flasher: that's what the hole is for. at best, the program(s) using it will bug out
[08:10] <flasher> iratsu: is it umount or unmount?
[08:11] <irawan> flasher: unmount if it is there
[08:11] <BlueEagle> eightball: A) The manual eject is for ejection w/o power only. B) manually unmounting it using the icon or sudo umount /dev/cdrom is much much better to recomend in a support channel
[08:11] <eightball> flasher: try the software method first, just in case.
[08:11] <BlueEagle> eightball: worst case scenario you might destroy the cd-rom drive and have the CD fly into your eyes because it was still spinning.
[08:11] <eightball> BlueEagle: yeah, but it works and i've had to do it for stubborn programs that won't let the cdrom drive go
[08:11] <TreeStump> ok that works fine now, thanks whoever it was that helped me....
[08:12] <TreeStump> KDE is great
[08:12] <PovRayMan> will there be a dapper update that includes gnome 2.16 or will that be in Edgy?
[08:12] <irawan> PovRayMan: most probably in edgy
[08:12] <PovRayMan> Alrighty, cool thanks.
[08:12] <PovRayMan> I haven't been following dev since work keeps me occupied.
[08:12] <BlueEagle> bayzider: that would be a bash script
[08:13] <adil> please someone help me
[08:13] <bayzider> k tnz
[08:13] <bayzider> tnx*
[08:13] <flasher> irawan: i don't see any cd-rom icon on desktop
[08:13] <BlueEagle> bayzider: unlike windows linux doesn't look at the file extentions to determine if a file is executable or not.
[08:13] <flasher> Cerveza: help. how do i eject+
[08:13] <flasher> ?
[08:13] <PovRayMan> Too bad any OS is slow on my p2 266mhz/192mb ram
[08:13] <kibbled_bits> adil, check /etc/grub.conf
[08:13] <Cerveza> umount
[08:13] <PovRayMan> I suppose I could drop gnome and go back to windowmaker
[08:13] <irawan> flasher: in terminal type, df -u
[08:14] <irawan> flasher: where is your cdrom mounted?
[08:14] <BlueEagle> bayzider: What you wan to do is to run chmod on the file to make it executable or use the file name as an argument to bash.
[08:14] <eightball> flasher: Places > Computer
[08:14] <Ademan> when are we going to be able to upgrade to GNOME 2.16 ?
[08:14] <BlueEagle> bayzider: also bash scripts that are executable start with #!/bin/bash
[08:14] <eightball> should be in there if it's mounted
[08:14] <irawan> PovRayMan: you can try xfce maybe
[08:14] <PovRayMan> i did xfce for a while but i'm kinda "ehh" on it
[08:14] <adil> there isnt grub.conf in etc/
[08:14] <irawan> PovRayMan: I see
[08:15] <BlueEagle> adil: /boot/grub/menu.lst perhaps?
[08:15] <irawan> adil: it's on /boot
[08:15] <PovRayMan> i like having remote desktop enabled, which if you don't use gnome in ubuntu the remote desktop doesn't work
[08:15] <flasher> irawan: um, does this answer your question: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
[08:15] <PovRayMan> i tried to do a manual other vnc like server but i failed miserably
[08:15] <mtholdenss> best video editing software?
[08:15] <PovRayMan> if i could get remote desktop working with windowmaker, i'd be very happy
[08:15] <irawan> flasher: if you mount your cdrom to that, then try sudo umount /mnt/cdrom
[08:15] <Ademan> PovRayMan: what's the problem? if you're looking for something lightweight fluxbox fits the bill well, though I've never quite understood how it works, considering GNOME is a DE and fluxbox is a wm...
[08:16] <killown> ubuntu dapper is the best?
[08:16] <BlueEagle> povrayman: Is ssh and x-tunneling an optoin? THat's what I use for my server tbh.
[08:16] <killown> or breeze?
[08:16] <mtholdenss> best video editing software for ubuntu dapper drake?
[08:16] <PovRayMan> Ademan: Yeah I know *box is pretty sweet.  I use bblean in windows which can read *box styles.
[08:16] <adil> i see the list, but there is only ubuntu's :(
[08:16] <irawan> killapop: dapper is more update
[08:16] <PovRayMan> I just deal with the slowness on this 266mhz box because i really only use it for aim/irc :)
[08:16] <BlueEagle> killown: dapper drak (6.06) is newer than breezy (5.10).
[08:16] <adil> cant windows be entered manually?
[08:17] <irawan> killown: : dapper is more update
[08:17] <killown> BlueEagle, iratsu thanks
[08:17] <BlueEagle> killown: Which is best is probably a question of how you define quality.
[08:17] <PovRayMan> BlueEagle: If I knew how ssh and x-tunneling worked it should be ok.  I really only would remote desktop from lan with no outside access.
[08:17] <killown> dapper has support multimedia?
[08:17] <BlueEagle> killown: breezy is still more tried and tested than dapper is (since it's older) but since dapper is newer it's ehh.. newer obviously.
[08:17] <flasher> irawan: that works!
[08:17] <irawan> killown: yes
[08:17] <flasher> so what do i do when i put a new cdrom disk in
[08:18] <irawan> flasher: great
[08:18] <killown> I want to install nautilus-media in dapper
[08:18] <irawan> flasher: should be autodetected
[08:18] <BlueEagle> povrayman: Well what you do is set up an x-server on the local machine and then secure shell to the server and start the x application there. What you get on your local machine is the window of the program running on the remote machine.
[08:18] <PovRayMan> I play around with ubuntu because it's like a nice helping hand into linux.  I remember trying redhat5 many years ago.  That ended in tears and a reformat back to win95 lol.
[08:18] <adil> thanks all, format will probably fix my problem
[08:18] <flasher> irawan: does this mean that the only command i need to remember when i use my cdrom drive is sudo umount /mnt/cdrom?
[08:18] <irawan> killown: you can upgrade to dapper, and I suppose nautilus media is there too
[08:19] <killown> ok
[08:19] <PovRayMan> BlueEagle: is there a guide in the wiki? I am mostly useless when it comes to most things, but I am fairly comfy doing things via cli.
[08:19] <kibbled_bits> adil
[08:19] <kibbled_bits> do yourself a favor
[08:19] <kibbled_bits> install Gnome Partition Editor (gparted)
[08:19] <flasher> irawan: i put in a new cdrom disk into the drive, but it doesn't appear in file manager.
[08:19] <irawan> flasher: if it is auto detected, then you can see in say file manager
[08:19] <kibbled_bits> and take a look at those partitions
[08:19] <BlueEagle> povrayman: It's two configuration files. /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server and /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the client
[08:19] <flasher> how can i make it auto-detected?
[08:19] <kibbled_bits> it will be obvious if your Windows partition is gone
[08:19] <irawan> flasher: well then you need to mount it, sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom?
[08:20] <kibbled_bits> watch out though, Windows will overwrite the boot sector
[08:20] <BlueEagle> povrayman: There are one comment that needs to be removed in each to activate X forwarding.
[08:20] <kibbled_bits> that's why most ppl install Windows then Linux
[08:20] <bayzider> whats the command to compile a .c program
[08:20] <kibbled_bits> gcc
[08:20] <flasher> irawan: do i have to do these commands every time i put in a new cd-rom disk?
[08:20] <kibbled_bits> or make
[08:20] <flasher> can't i have things like in windows?
[08:20] <PovRayMan> BlueEagle: I got it open in pico right now
[08:20] <adil> ok kibbled_bits , i am installing it right now
[08:20] <bayzider> ggc filename -o progname ?
[08:21] <irawan> flasher: I think you can try search google for "ubuntu automount "
[08:21] <flasher> Cerveza: help. how do i access cdrom drive? i thought we already fixed things up
[08:21] <Cerveza> mount it again
[08:21] <kibbled_bits> gcc
[08:21] <BlueEagle> povrayman: in /etc/ssh/ssh_config uncomment ForwardX11 yes and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config uncomment X11Forwarding yes
[08:21] <kibbled_bits> try:
[08:21] <kibbled_bits> man gcc
[08:21] <irawan> flasher: you should be able to have it auto mounted
[08:21] <BlueEagle> povrayman: don't remember if you need to uncomment other files in sshd_config
[08:21] <kibbled_bits> it will tell you the usage
[08:21] <irawan> flasher: but maybe need some program installed
[08:21] <flasher> Cerveza: do you know how to automount?
[08:22] <kibbled_bits> it's likely that just compiling it won't work though
[08:22] <BlueEagle> povrayman: after that's done reconnect via ssh and start the application you want. :)
[08:22] <flasher> i should admit, that i'm on xubuntu
[08:22] <kibbled_bits> header references & libraries and all sorts of stuff
[08:22] <kibbled_bits> that's why most C apps are distributed with MakeFiles
[08:22] <PovRayMan> when you say reconnect via ssh, do you mean with like putty or a vncviewer?
[08:22] <BlueEagle> povrayman: and you might need to change 'no' to 'yes' on the config options I mentioned
[08:22] <flasher> Cerveza: i tried sudo mount /mnt/cdrom, but it says "mount: can't find /mnt/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab". what's wrong
[08:22] <adil> kibbled_bits: , my windows partition is here, also i can enter it from ubuntu... i just dont get windows anymore on the list like i did before i updated, and now ubuntu is on the list for 3 times
[08:22] <irawan> flasher: please look http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21779.html
[08:23] <kibbled_bits> I PMed you ADIL did you get that?
[08:23] <BlueEagle> povrayman: if you're running from windows you'll also need an x server (I find cygwin to be nice)
[08:23] <kibbled_bits> it should give you an example of a dual boot config file
[08:23] <Cerveza> well you don't have a rule for mounting mnt/cdrom
[08:23] <Cerveza> you need to set one up
[08:23] <PovRayMan> BlueEagle: yeah i would be trying to connect from win2k and i do have cygwin partially installed
[08:23] <flasher> how?
[08:23] <kibbled_bits> make sure you backup your old grub.conf though
[08:23] <kibbled_bits> if you screw something up, you might need to recover using your live cd
[08:23] <flasher> i thought, perhaps wrongly, that what we did 20 minutes ago was going to fix things up for good
[08:23] <irawan> flasher: supposed to be sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[08:24] <kibbled_bits> you won't break anything, at worst it won't be bootable
[08:24] <Cerveza> no
[08:24] <irawan> flasher: please look http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21779.html
[08:24] <Cerveza> I was just teaching you how to mount
[08:24] <BlueEagle> povrayman: What you need is the x11startup scripts in cygwin. I think that should depend on all the packages you'll need.
[08:24] <Cerveza> because its a useful skill
[08:24] <Cerveza> automount is making the computer do what you did
[08:24] <BlueEagle> povrayman: Then it's just a matter of starting the X server and putty into the server and run the application you want.
[08:24] <flasher> Cerveza: i see.
[08:24] <Fnyar> Question: dhclient -r <interface name> doesn't seem to actually release my ISP provided DHCP lease. Any ideas why not? ifconfig eth0 shows it still has an IP address after I've supposedly released it.
[08:24] <pimeja> Can Vim (not GVim) highlight code? How do i set up it?
[08:24] <PovRayMan> BlueEagle: ultimately what i want it something i can connect to with vncviewer, I do thank you for your help but this is getting overcomplicated for my feeble mind :D
[08:25] <flasher> Cerveza: is it easy to get the computer to automount? irawan, i saw the link
[08:25] <Cerveza> pimeja, hit esc then v
[08:25] <kibbled_bits> gotta run, Good Luck guys
[08:25] <adil> kibbled_bits: , sorry mi nickname is not registered so i cant pm
[08:25] <BlueEagle> povrayman: The drawback using this method is that you can't leave windows open when you disconnect the session (ie have windowed applications running on the server that you can reconnect to later)
[08:25] <levander> Is ubuntuforums down?  I can't get a response for it from my search.
[08:25] <kibbled_bits> but adil /etc/grub.conf
[08:25] <kibbled_bits> is definately the key to your fix
[08:25] <kibbled_bits> nite
[08:25] <adil> there isnt a grub.conf file on etc
[08:26] <adil> there isn't one even in the boot/grub/ dir eather
[08:26] <adil> :(
[08:26] <irawan> flasher: in terminal try this:   sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-manager
[08:26] <BlueEagle> killer_one: there's no grub.conf in ubuntu.
[08:26] <BlueEagle> killer_one: misnicked
[08:26] <BlueEagle> kibbled left :/
[08:26] <sharap> I'm trying to make a global shortcut to open up a fish terminal.  I have /usr/bin/fish set as command_1 and the proper shortcut set up to run that command.  I think it's running but not staying up since it's not running in a terminal.  How can I force it to run in a terminal?
[08:26] <BlueEagle> adil: Wat was your problem again?
[08:26] <flasher> irawan: how can i check whether i have it istalled already?
[08:26] <levander> Man I have no luck in this room.
[08:26] <BlueEagle> What*
[08:26] <irawan> flasher: there'll be message
[08:26] <pimeja> Cerveza: esc v don't work. it seems that it set the mark
[08:26] <adil> hi BlueEagle, I installed like 200 MB of updates and after the restart, Windows XP lost from the choices of OS, and Ubuntu multiplyed itself for like 3 more times. What is the problem and how to fix it please?
[08:26] <sharap> flasher, just try to install it, if you already have the latest version it will tell you
[08:27] <flasher> irawan: i'm so afraid of installing more programs. because i use an old computer and worry it will slow it down even more
[08:27] <Cerveza> pimeja, esc v enters visual mode
[08:27] <levander> When I type, is it showing up on yall's screens?
[08:27] <irawan> flasher: well, then you just need to use the command then
[08:27] <sharap> levander, nope, can't see it here
[08:27] <Cerveza> levander, no
[08:27] <flasher> irawan: oh
[08:27] <levander> Is ubuntuforums down?
[08:27] <BlueEagle> adil: Ok, to remove the extra kernels (You'll notice that the version numbers are not the same) open synaptic in System->Admin->synaptic pakcage manager.
[08:27] <Cerveza> irawan, ubuntu comes with an automounter
[08:27] <irawan> flasher: do you use gnome?
[08:28] <lampshade> With the new release of gnome, 2.16, will that ever go to dapper or will that be an Edgy only thing?
[08:28] <irawan> flasher: just type sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-manager
[08:28] <bayzider> is there a chat room for porgraming c++ in ubuntu?
[08:28] <flasher> irawan: i used to. now, i'm using xfce
[08:28] <irawan> flasher: if it doesn't have many dependencies, then you can use it
[08:29] <adil> ok BlueEagle, i am there. what should i do now?
[08:29] <BlueEagle> adil: use the search feature and search for: linux-image
[08:29] <lampshade> bayzider: not really, what are you trying to do?  If you are pretty new to c++ I could recommend some stuff?  There is a C++ room, though
[08:29] <BlueEagle> adil: Now, which architecture are you running on? (ie. which processor?)
[08:29] <irawan> flasher: you can type, it will give you messages, and you can proceed or stop :)
[08:29] <adil> intel
[08:29] <levander> Has ubuntuforums search feature just gone way down in speed, I finally got an answer back.
[08:29] <BlueEagle> adil: any spesific intel?
[08:30] <bayzider> lampshade: i got a good tutorial(i think) i just need to know how to compile them on ubuntu i dont know the file extentions or any thing
[08:30] <adil> BlueEagle: , dont know that.. I know i got Pentium 4 on 3.2 GHz
[08:30] <irawan> flasher: how do you go with that?
[08:30] <pimeja> Cerveza: i'm sorry. i was make not exacat question. i mean syntax highlighting of code like C, Java
[08:30] <Cerveza> ooooh
[08:30] <adil> BlueEagle: , btw i see that there are 3 linux images installed
[08:30] <Cerveza> you set that in your .vimrc file
[08:30] <BlueEagle> adil: Ok. are any of them suffixed by -686?
[08:31] <flasher> iratsu: i found out that it wasn't installed
[08:31] <flasher> i don't use my cdrom drive much
[08:31] <flasher> so i think i can make do with just memorizing the umount and mount commands
[08:31] <irawan> flasher: if it doesn't have much dependencies, it's OK for you to install
[08:31] <adil> BlueEagle, no but each of them is suffixed by 386
[08:31] <pimeja> Cerveza: ok, thx
[08:31] <irawan> flasher: that command will show you and ask you whether you want to proceed install or not
[08:32] <irawan> flasher: if you don't want, you can stop there
[08:32] <Cerveza> :syntax on
[08:32] <irawan> flasher: at least you know it
[08:32] <lampshade> bayzider: .cpp same as windows.  Everyone in the linux and bsd world basically uses gcc (which is the name of the compiler) for compiling.  a nice developing enviorment is Anjuta which you can install via apt or synaptic.  I personally don't do anything really huge so I use the old text editor vim and then the tool make  I have no idea what level c++ programmer you are so excuse me if you know about things like make already
[08:32] <flasher> irawan: it wants to install 25 megs
[08:32] <Cerveza> I don't like anjunta
[08:33] <BlueEagle> adil: Ok.
[08:33] <irawan> flasher, well forget it :)
[08:33] <BlueEagle> adil: Now: use the search window again and search for: kernel
[08:33] <Nop> hi all
[08:33] <irawan> flasher: let me see again, I have xubuntu here, and don't have gnome-volume-manager
[08:33] <irawan> flasher: but can auto mount
[08:33] <bayzider> lampshade: im a complete noob in normal c and i want to move over to c++ due to the fact that there is so much more material like tuts and stuff on line, how do you use gcc?
[08:33] <flasher> irawan: it's not just the hard drive space. i don't want my comp to slow down (ram issue)
[08:34] <flasher> irawan: oh, you're on xubuntu, too?
[08:34] <lampshade> bayzider: kk
[08:34] <flasher> how do you do it?
[08:34] <adil> BlueEagle, ok. what should i look for on the results?
[08:34] <Nop> how to make gnome to launch applications on one mous click? i hate double clicks...
[08:34] <fokuslee> hey how do i no if sli is workin?
[08:34] <Ademan> when are we going to be able to upgrade to GNOME 2.16 ?
[08:34] <irawan> flasher: please wait
[08:34] <ChaosFan> bayzider: if you want to compile c++-source files it's g++
[08:35] <peterz> Nop: gnome doesn't do configuration, use kde ;-)
[08:35] <BlueEagle> adil: You'll need to scroll down some but I want you to remove the following: linux-386 and linux-image-*-386
[08:35] <bayzider> chaosfan: so i appget g++ but once i have it whats the command to compile with it
[08:35] <BlueEagle> adil: where * are version numbers
[08:35] <lampshade> bayzider: yeah you will want to use g++ which is the c++ brother of gcc.  First thing you will probably want to do is install build-essentials which will install several programs.  Have you used synaptic or apt-get yet to install any programs for ubuntu?
[08:35] <Nop> peterz, shit happens...
[08:35] <BlueEagle> adil: YOu might want to leave the lastest version in place in case the 686 kernel (which we are about to install) doesn't work
[08:35] <BlueEagle> adil: Now scroll and find linux-686 package. You want that installed.
[08:35] <ChaosFan> bayzider: basically it's g++ <options> -o <output file name> <source files>
[08:36] <sharap> Nop, in GConf Editor try apps -> nautilus -> preferences -> click policy
[08:36] <sharap> Nop, no guarantees though
[08:36] <BlueEagle> adil: it should depend on a linux-image-*-686 and linux-restricted*-686
[08:36] <bayzider> chaosfan: lampshade: k tnx i got it now
[08:36] <Cerveza> flasher, if you want to automount just edit your fstab
[08:37] <flasher> Cerveza: ok. what should i add to fstab?
[08:37] <irawan> flasher: it is said that Thunar is responsible for this, do you have thunar file manager?
[08:37] <sid> I booted my P4 machine with an ATI 9100(old card) using the Ubuntu 6.06* disc(the main disc on the website, I downloaded it this morning), and when I boot and X/Gnome starts..it's in 640x480. How can I make it 1024x768? I tried "xrandr -s 1024x768" and that didn't work. I went to Preferences/Screen Resolution and the only choice was 640x480. Then I checked xorg.conf and all resolutions were listed, but they didn't show anywhere.
[08:37] <sid> Is this a common problem? Was I supposed to boot with certain kernel options via grub? or whatever that boot loader is
[08:37] <flasher> irawan: yes, i use thunar
[08:37] <BlueEagle> adil: now use the search feature again and search for: restricted
[08:37] <adil> BlueEagle, i marked everything you told me for install/unistall
[08:37] <irawan> flasher: hmmm,
[08:37] <BlueEagle> you can safely remove linux-restricted-modules*-386
[08:38] <Cerveza> flasher, something along the lines of /dev/hdc         /media/cdrom0        udf,iso9660  user,noauto   0    0
[08:38] <BlueEagle> adil: You might want to keep the latest version in case the -686 kernel doesn't work properly
[08:38] <Cerveza> but change up the options however you want
[08:38] <Cerveza> thats just how my system does it
[08:38] <flasher> Cerveza: what do you mean by "something along the lines"? but what should I use?
[08:38] <Cerveza> I mean, that those options work for me because they do what I want
[08:38] <flasher> irawan: with my ipod, i can mount and unmount in thunar
[08:38] <Cerveza> if you want different options you should specify them
[08:39] <BlueEagle> adil: also check that you've got a linux-restricted-modules-*-686 marked for installation.
[08:39] <flasher> Cerveza: what options do you want?
[08:39] <Cerveza> like I think you had your mount point at /mnt/cdrom
[08:39] <flasher> and will these options work for me?
[08:39] <irawan> flasher: check your /etc/fstab, is there option noauto on your cdrom line?
[08:39] <BlueEagle> adil: When all that is done click Use to update your system.
[08:39] <adil> BlueEagle, yes, i did that and 686 was allready marked for installation
[08:39] <BlueEagle> adil: good
[08:39] <irawan> flasher: make it auto
[08:39] <Cerveza> well noauto means don't automount, and user means that a user can manually mount (as opposed to root only)
[08:39] <fokuslee> hey how do i no if sli is workin?
[08:40] <BlueEagle> adil: What will happen now is that the old kernels will be removed and the new (right) kernel will be installed.
[08:40] <BlueEagle> adil: After that is done we'll have a look-see in /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if your windows entry has magically re-appeared.
[08:40] <adil> BlueEagle, you worth gold. Thanks alot for your kind help. Should now I Apply?
[08:40] <irawan> flasher: it has something to do with HAL
[08:40] <BlueEagle> adil: yes, apply now.
[08:40] <adil> ok
[08:40] <flasher> so which do i want: noauto OR auto?
[08:40] <Cerveza> depends on what you want
[08:40] <Cerveza> do you want automounting or not?
[08:40] <flasher> how do i edit fstab in xubuntu?
[08:41] <BlueEagle> adil: and tell me when it's done processing the changes and we'll move along
[08:41] <Cerveza> vim /etc/fstab
[08:41] <flasher> Cerveza: yes, i want the computer to do the work
[08:41] <adil> BlueEagle, it looks like this will take some time. It needs 52 MB to download
[08:41] <BlueEagle> flasher: ALT+F2 gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[08:41] <irawan> flasher: sudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[08:41] <adil> BlueEagle: that is normal, right?
[08:41] <BlueEagle> adil: that sounds about right, yes.
[08:41] <adil> ok
[08:41] <BlueEagle> adil: You're not on dial-up are you? o.O
[08:41] <Cerveza> vim ftw
[08:41] <BlueEagle> hehe
[08:41] <flasher> irawan: to answer your question, yes, there is the "noauto" in cdrom line: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:42] <adil> BlueEagle: no, i am on wireless adsl (512/128) :)
[08:42] <Cerveza> that means it won't automount
[08:42] <Cerveza> which is ubuntu standard
[08:42] <Cerveza> mounting is generally handled by another program
[08:42] <flasher> Cerveza: i see. for my case, i want to change "noauto" to "auto", yes?
[08:43] <BlueEagle> cerveza: Please do note that many people using Ubuntu are accustomed to graphical tools for various tasks. Vim might be a good editor once you learn how it works but unfortunately it's not the most intuitive tool in the world. In a support channel focusing on ease of use is generally a good thing.
[08:43] <irawan> flasher: I have it noauto, but my system can automount my cdrom, hmmmm
[08:43] <Cerveza> BlueEagle, gvim
[08:43] <adil> BlueEagle: it will take like 12m
[08:44] <BlueEagle> cerveza: I don't think gvim is installed by default in Xubuntu. Might be wrong on that one tho.
[08:44] <Cerveza> you may be right, I don't know, I use kubuntu
[08:44] <BlueEagle> adil: Good. That gives me some time to get breakfeast. :)
[08:44] <adil> :)
[08:44] <flasher> irawan: i'm stumped
[08:44] <irawan> flasher, I got it :)
[08:44] <irawan> flasher: the program is ivman
[08:45] <irawan> flasher: I remember installed it
[08:45] <irawan> flasher: sudo apt-get install ivman, not big
[08:45] <Cerveza> btw irawan, hal = hardware abstraction layer
[08:46] <irawan> Cerveza: yes, I knew that
[08:46] <irawan> Cerveza: it is ivman that I was looking for
[08:46] <irawan> flasher: go for ivman
[08:46] <irawan> :D
[08:47] <Veeper> hello everyone
[08:48] <flasher> irawan: i'm talking to someone in xubuntu chatroom and he's got automounting, too
[08:48] <flasher> why don't i?
[08:48] <Cerveza> do you have ivman?
[08:49] <irawan> flasher: it is ivman, type in terminal, sudo apt-get install ivman
[08:49] <Veeper> is there anyone who would know if I could get the 4.1 gcc package for Dapper Drake?
[08:49] <Cerveza> what does dapper come with?
[08:49] <irawan> Cerveza: me? yes I have ivman
[08:49] <flasher> how do i leave the vim program?
[08:49] <irawan> no gnome-volume-manager
[08:49] <Cerveza> no I ment flasher
[08:49] <Cerveza> and yes, leave vim
[08:49] <flasher> how?
[08:50] <Cerveza> its esc :q! enter
[08:50] <newindo> irawan: do you about permission setting
[08:50] <irawan> flasher: yes you can leave it, nothing to be changes in fstab
[08:50] <flasher> not now
[08:50] <flasher> the letter H, not the letter N, in "HOW"
[08:50] <flasher> how do i leave it?
[08:50] <newindo> irawan: i mean do u know about permission setting
[08:50] <Cerveza> flasher, hit esc
[08:50] <Cerveza> then type :q!
[08:50] <Cerveza> then hit enter
[08:50] <irawan> newindo: I think so
[08:50] <flasher> Cerveza: ty
[08:51] <irawan> flasher: now, type in terminal, sudo apt-get install ivman
[08:51] <Cerveza> vim gives me warm and fuzzy feelings inside
[08:51] <newindo> what is mean uid=1000 gid=1000
[08:51] <flasher> irawan: ok
[08:51] <flasher> insalling ivman
[08:51] <BlueEagle> newindo: uid = user id and gid = group id
[08:52] <newindo> the number mean?
[08:52] <BlueEagle> newindo: have a look in /etc/passwd and /etc/group to see the corresponding name and group of 1000
[08:52] <newindo> 1000 = ?
[08:52] <BlueEagle> newindo: 1000 is the first user added to the system
[08:52] <newindo> ok
[08:52] <adil> BlueEagle: 3 more minutes :)
[08:52] <newindo> how bout other users
[08:52] <irawan> flasher: hope it works fine for you
[08:53] <BlueEagle> adil: good, good.
[08:53] <Zorlac> ahhh
[08:53] <Zorlac> a new gnome!!
[08:53] <flasher> irawan: ok. i got ivman now (500 kb only)
[08:53] <newindo> what number should i give
[08:53] <Zorlac> gnome 2.16~~
[08:53] <irawan> flasher: now you can try it, if it is not working yet, may be after reboot
[08:53] <BlueEagle> newindo: cat /etc/passwd|grep USERNAME
[08:53] <sid> I booted my P4 machine with an ATI 9100(old card) using the Ubuntu 6.06* disc(the main disc on the website, I downloaded it this morning), and when I boot and X/Gnome starts..it's in 640x480. How can I make it 1024x768? I tried "xrandr -s 1024x768" and that didn't work. I went to Preferences/Screen Resolution and the only choice was 640x480. Then I checked xorg.conf and all resolutions were listed, but they didn't show anywhere.
[08:54] <irawan> but shuld work
[08:54] <sid> Is this a common problem? Was I supposed to boot with certain kernel options via grub? or whatever that boot loader is
[08:54] <BlueEagle> newindo: where USERNAME is the name of the user in question
[08:54] <flasher> i thought that no reboots are necessary in linux
[08:54] <flasher> it does'nt work now, pre-re-boot
[08:54] <irawan> flasher: yes
[08:54] <irawan> flasher: if you now the things in /etc/init.d
[08:54] <BlueEagle> newindo: it should return a line like: USERNAME:x:1001:1001:RealName,,,:/home/USERNAME:/bin/bash
[08:54] <irawan> flasher: you can restart the program
[08:54] <BlueEagle> newindo: the numbers you see are the numbers you'll use.
[08:55] <newindo> BlueEagle: can u help me
[08:55] <newindo> BlueEagle: setting share folder with samba
[08:55] <ompaul> !samba
[08:55] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:55] <irawan> newindo: keyword: create mask
[08:55] <BlueEagle> newindo: also, in most cases it's ok to specify username and group name instead of the numbers like: mount -t smbfs -o uid=USERNAME,gid=GROUPNAME.... //servername/sharename /media/mountpoint
[08:55] <irawan> newindo: keyword: directory mask
[08:56] <irawan> newindo: keyword: force user
[08:56] <irawan> newindo: keyword: force group
[08:56] <irawan> newindo: no need user id
[08:56] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell newindo about samba
[08:56] <flasher> irawan: i don't understand what you said
[08:56] <flasher> after installing ivman, "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom" no longer works
[08:57] <adil> BlueEagle: this finished and now asks for restart
[08:57] <BlueEagle> adil: don't restart just yet
[08:57] <adil> ok
[08:57] <irawan> flasher: if I change something to my apache server, then I can go to /etc/init.d and type apache restart
[08:57] <irawan> flasher: to make the setting changes applied
[08:57] <BlueEagle> adil: close synaptic and press ALT+F2 to get the run dialog. There you type: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:57] <flasher> irawan: so what should i do?
[08:58] <irawan> flasher: is your cdrom already mounted?
[08:58] <flasher> type ivman restart or somethnig?
[08:58] <BlueEagle> adil: at the bottom of the file you should have an entry similar (but not neccessarily identical) to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22788
[08:58] <flasher> irawan: i tried "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom" but it says: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:58] <flasher> it never said that before (installing ivman)
[08:59] <irawan> flasher: sudo mount -t iso9660 ... ...
[08:59] <irawan> flasher: ?
[08:59] <flasher> what does ... represent?
[08:59] <vik> does vmware let one run windows or other OS completely inside ubuntu? Or does it sit below both?
[08:59] <BlueEagle> adil: Do you have huch an entry?
[08:59] <irawan> flasher: I mean /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom :)
[08:59] <Lathiat> vik: inside
[09:00] <adil> BlueEagle: no, there's alot of Ubuntu and none windows xp :(
[09:00] <adil> can i paste my own?
[09:00] <adil> my own menu.lst
[09:00] <mtholdenss> i it possible to change the desktop background of diff workspaces?
[09:00] <BlueEagle> adil: Yes, but you must be sure to specify the correct root device
[09:00] <vik> Lathiat: so I run the vmware server to do this?
[09:00] <BlueEagle> adil: if it's on the first harddrive then you can use (hd0,0) as it stands
[09:00] <irawan> mtholdenss: depends on the window manager you use
[09:01] <mtholdenss> cgwd
[09:01] <BlueEagle> adil: (that's where microsoft puts windows by default)
[09:01] <Lathiat> vik: yeh you could do that
[09:01] <vik> Lathiat: the other alternatives being?
[09:01] <flasher> irawan: i think you meant sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
[09:01] <Lathiat> free alternatives?
[09:01] <flasher> anyway, that doesn't work either
[09:01] <Lathiat> xen
[09:01] <mtholdenss> and i use compiz
[09:01] <Lathiat> but that wont run windows
[09:01] <adil> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22789
[09:01] <BlueEagle> adil: When that's done save and close and then cross your fingers and reboot
[09:01] <Lathiat> without VT extensions
[09:02] <Lathiat> theres parallels but thats $$
[09:02] <Lathiat> so yeh vmware i guess
[09:02] <Lathiat> theres qemu too but thats much slower than vmware
[09:02] <irawan> flasher: well, best is try reboot
[09:02] <flasher> if that won't work, i'm going to remove ivman and just remember the command-
[09:02] <flasher> s
[09:02] <adil> that is what i got on menu.lst :(
[09:02] <irawan> flasher: sure
[09:02] <BlueEagle> ehh
[09:02] <adil> sorry everyone, how do i go "window up" in irssi?
[09:02] <adil> page up
[09:03] <BlueEagle> adil: it seems you installed an old and a new version of the 686 kernel tbh. :)
[09:03] <adil> :(
[09:03] <BlueEagle> adil: but no matter. that's an easy fix.
[09:04] <adil> hopefully it will fix my problem :(
[09:04] <BlueEagle> adil: Where is windows installed on your machine? Which harddrive and partition?
[09:05] <adil> i have one hard disk in 4 probably partitions
[09:05] <adil> C: is windows
[09:05] <adil> D: is for private datas
[09:05] <adil> and ubuntu taked care of other things
[09:06] <adil> probably it created 2 more, one /swap and what was the other thing
[09:06] <BlueEagle> adil: C: is not very descriptive (ie. windows drive names does not neccessarily reflect partition number)
[09:07] <adil> sda1 means anything to you?
[09:07] <adil> it's named like that my windows partition on ubuntu desktop
[09:07] <BlueEagle> adil: if you're unsure of which partition windows is on you can type this in a terminal: sudo fdisk -l|grep NTFS
[09:07] <BlueEagle> sda1 is good
[09:07] <BlueEagle> adil: have you got more than one hard disk?
[09:07] <adil> no BlueEagle, one 160 GB only
[09:08] <BlueEagle> adil: ok.
[09:08] <BlueEagle> now it is a good idea to make a backup of your menu.lst just in case
[09:08] <BlueEagle> adil: so do this in a terminal: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.old
[09:09] <BlueEagle> adil: then edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst to look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22790
[09:09] <BlueEagle> adil: that should in theory give you two kernel options (386 and 686) + safe mode and a windows option in grub.
[09:10] <BlueEagle> adil: oh, and the memtest ofcourse.
[09:11] <e-type> morning all
[09:11] <kaolti> 	hi
[09:11] <BlueEagle> adil: when that is done you can save the file and reboot
[09:11] <BlueEagle> adil: and cross your fingers. :)
[09:12] <kaolti> is there a way to modify the size of a linux partition?
[09:12] <BlueEagle> kaolti: gparted might be able to help you do that.
[09:12] <kaolti> BlueEagle: thanks where can i get it?
[09:13] <BlueEagle> kaolti: however modifying partitions is a dangerous opreation and I really really recomend backing up data before attempting it.
[09:13] <BlueEagle> !info gparted
[09:13] <ubotu> gparted: partition editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[09:13] <BlueEagle> kaolti: it's appearantly in the main repository
[09:13] <adil> BlueEagle: done and saved. restart? :)
[09:13] <kaolti> BlueEagle: thanks.
[09:13] <BlueEagle> adil: good luck
[09:13] <adil> BlueEagle: thank you :) be right back
[09:13] <BlueEagle> kaolti: please be sure to read the documentation
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> I've lost the ability to lock the screen (Gnome).  Any idea what's going on?  My keyboard shortcut, suspending to RAM, and the log out button > lock screen all have no effect.
[09:14] <marlun> how is things handled when I install software from source-code? For example: I install Subversion 1.4 RC5, then I change my mind and want to install Subversion 1.3.2, will it just copy itself over and things will work or do I have to reinstall everything?
[09:14] <kaolti> BlueEagle: ok.i might just create another linux partition ot avoid loss of data
[09:15] <BlueEagle> kaolti: Why? Re-installing the operating system can be fun for the whole family! (j/k)
[09:15] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: got XGL+compiz installed?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: No.
[09:16] <kaolti> BlueEagle: yes.well i've just done that too much i want to enjoy using it now :
[09:16] <kaolti> :)
[09:16] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: did you check system->settings->keyboard shortcuts?
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: Yes.
[09:17] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: ...and?
[09:18] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: mine reads: Lock screen: 0xdf
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: Should be F3 to lock, but as stating, the key gets no response.  Same from the Gnome logout dialogue for it.
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: Funny thing is, it just stopped working.  It was fine a few days ago.  No updates since.
[09:18] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: have you got an "office lock" key on your keyboard?
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: No.  (What's that?)
[09:19] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: some new keyboadrs have got a (useless) key like caps- num- and scroll-lock that binds various ms office functions to the function keys.
[09:20] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: laptop or desktop keyboard?
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: Ah.  Laptop.
[09:20] <adil> BlueEagle: god bless you, it worked!
[09:20] <BlueEagle> adil: good stuff. :)
[09:20] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: do you use the Fn key with F3?
[09:20] <adil> thank you very very much
[09:20] <kaolti> BlueEagle: i cant find the program
[09:21] <BlueEagle> kaolti: did you check in synaptic if it's installed?
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: No.  Anyway, it's obviously not a key issue, since the normal interface doesn't work either, nor the lock on lid close, nor suspend.
[09:21] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: oh. I see.
[09:21] <kaolti> BlueEagle: i got it sry.i just had to apt-get instasll gparted
[09:21] <infidel> anyone know where i can download lotus notes?
[09:22] <kaolti> *install
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: What else might cause a failure to lock the screen?
[09:22] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: install bum and check that all laptop features are started at boot.
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> (Or where might there be useful logs?)
[09:22] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: or use another rc manager.
[09:24] <fotang> how do I stop a process created as follows (ctrl-c* doesnt seem to work)? bash$ while true;do ping -c somehost;done
[09:24] <CorpseFeeder> waaaaheyyy! I'm back :)
[09:24] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: the features in question would be acpid and laptop-mode
[09:24] <rixxon> should i use the 386 or the 686 kernel for a centrino cpu?
[09:25] <brendonjt> hi ya one and alll
[09:25] <ompaul> fotang ps auwx| grep somehost followed by kill -9
[09:25] <BlueEagle> rixxon: if it runs on the 686 kernel then use it. If not then you might have to stick with the 386 kernel.
[09:25] <fotang> ompaul: the PID is always changing. i forgot to add `sleep something' in the loop
[09:25] <BlueEagle> rixxon: (no harm in trying the 686 kernel)
[09:26] <BlueEagle> fotang: killall takes process name instead of pid
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: Both are checked.
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: Restarted laptop-mode just in case; will see if that helps later.
[09:27] <BlueEagle> tonyyarusso: Then I don't know. I saw someone else with a similar problem a couple of days ago. Couldn't find a solution for that either.
[09:27] <fotang> BlueEagle: what is the process, i pray thee? while true;do ping -c somehost;done
[09:27] <BlueEagle> fotang: that would be ping I guess
[09:27] <BlueEagle> fotang: killall -9 ping
[09:27] <BlueEagle> fotang: it might be while tho
[09:28] <BlueEagle> fotang: killal -9 while
[09:28] <BlueEagle> killall*
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> BlueEagle: All right; thanks for trying.  If it persists I'll try the mailing list.
[09:28] <Ademan> /home/dan/Documents/munglogo/Munglogo2.svg
[09:28] <Ademan> haha
[09:28] <Ademan> i should check what's in my clipboard before i paste
[09:28] <fotang> while: no process killed
[09:28] <fotang> coulbd be bash...
[09:28] <BlueEagle> ademan: I love munglogo2 :)
[09:29] <CorpseFeeder> I was here about 8 hours ago.. and someone was helping me with my problem(Ubuntu won't boot with wifi card inserted - stuck on "configuring network interfaces"), and it was suggested to me that I comment out some lines in some interfaces file, but I can't remember where they told me to find that file... anyone know where I find this "network interfaces" file?
[09:29] <Ademan> anyways, what i meant to paste was: GNOME 2.16 is out, when can we upgrade?
[09:29] <fotang> anyway, that looks like the good approach
[09:29] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:29] <CorpseFeeder> thank you
[09:29] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: for future reference: You can type in a terminale: locate interfaces
[09:30] <kaolti> BlueEagle: i have a problem with gparted
[09:30] <BlueEagle> kaolti: I've never used gparted so I can probably not help.
[09:30] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. thanks
[09:31] <kaolti> BlueEagle: i created the partition buti  cant mount it.when i created it it said: A busy device is a device with at least one mounted partition.
[09:31] <kaolti> Because making changes to a busy device may confuse the kernel, you are advised to reboot your computer.
[09:31] <ryancr>  trying to build bonfire, but keep getting this error "No package 'gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10' found"
[09:31] <ryancr>  i cannot seem to fine a 'dev' version of that
[09:31] <ryancr>  any thoughts?
[09:32] <ryancr> find*
[09:32] <kaolti> BlueEagle: i rebooted and tryed to format it but it says the same.u have a clue?
[09:32] <BlueEagle> rixxon: libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev is a pakcage
[09:32] <BlueEagle> !info libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev
[09:32] <ubotu> libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev: GStreamer development files for libraries from the "base" set. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.7-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 55 kB, installed size 364 kB
[09:32] <ryancr> ah thank
[09:32] <ryancr> s
[09:33] <BlueEagle> ryancr: for future reference: you can type in a terminal: sudo apt-get search gstreamer-plugin
[09:33] <Ademan> !gnome
[09:33] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:33] <ryancr> yes i did that..must have scanned right over it...thanks again
[09:34] <Ademan> !gnome2.16
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome2.16 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <ryancr> and i assume you meant apt-cache search ;)
[09:34] <RicoStallion> G'day all. Can anybody help a Linux noob out with his snd-via82xx ?
[09:35] <BlueEagle> ryancr: Well I meant aptitude but I thougt I'd use the apt- equivalent and borkalized. You're quite right. :)
[09:35] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell ricostallion about anyone
[09:35] <ryancr> hehe
[09:35] <kaolti> BlueEagle: can u help me mount the partition?
[09:35] <massive222_> Can anybody help me with vmware tools?
[09:35] <BlueEagle> kaolti: Sure. Which partition on which device and on which mount point?
[09:35] <BlueEagle> kaolti: and which filesystem
[09:36] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell massive222_ about anyone
[09:36] <kaolti> BlueEagle: well i created this new partition /dev/hda4 but it cant be mounted.i dont know if its formatted already, it supposed to be ext3
[09:36] <RicoStallion> Basically, I'm getting no sound and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 doesn't make any sense.
[09:37] <BlueEagle> kaolti: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda4
[09:37] <BlueEagle> kaolti: sudo mount /dev/hda4 /path/to/mountpoint
[09:37] <RicoStallion> I'm expecting to be able to download a driver and install it, but this stuff about compiling it into my kernel is going over my head.
[09:37] <vilefridge>  Hello :)  I notice that inactive windows in the taskbar sometimes flash to indicate something "new" has happened, even when they don't really require attention and nothing has occurred.  For instance, I'll be typing away in Openoffice and then switch to another task.  The Openoffice dock in the taskbar will begin flashing for no reason.  I can click on it to give it focus, and then go to another window
[09:38] <vilefridge> and it will begin flashing again.  Is anyone else experiencing this?
[09:38] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Isn't the via82 sound driver already availible as a module?
[09:38] <RicoStallion> well, I did the "sudo modprobe snd-[tab] " step and it didn't auto fill anything
[09:38] <Ademan> !wireless
[09:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:39] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: it won't
[09:39] <RicoStallion> I'm not sure what I should do. I assumed onboard audio would be autodetected.
[09:39] <kaolti> BlueEagle: it went ok but i had a win partition that i cant accces now hda1
[09:39] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: it probably was.
[09:39] <cypher1> vilefridge: i am experiencing the same
[09:39] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell kaolti about ntfs
[09:40] <RicoStallion> the muted volume control says I may not have my sound card configured
[09:40] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: lsmod|grep snd-via
[09:40] <RicoStallion> in the terminal, I assume?
[09:40] <massive222_> I run vmware tools on my ubuntu 6.06, which is a guest OS on XP. i installed the vmware tools by converting the rpm to deb. but still no changes happen. somebody told me that i have to configure it.
[09:40] <kaolti> BlueEagle: yes but it was ok till i mounted this new one
[09:40] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: you assume correctly
[09:40] <RicoStallion> should that retun something?
[09:40] <vilefridge> cypher1:  Is there any resolution to this that you are aware of?
[09:40] <BlueEagle> kaolti: did you mount them both at the same place?
[09:40] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: hopefylly, yes.
[09:40] <massive222_> but at the start of configuration it asks me where my c compiler is at?
[09:40] <RicoStallion> unfortunately, no.
[09:41] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: if it doesn't: sudo modprobe snd-via82xx
[09:41] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: that should probably fix your sound card issue.
[09:41] <RicoStallion> nothing returned. I think it prompted for a password on that command once, but it hasn't asked again.
[09:41] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: to load this module automatically when you start add the following to /etc/modules : snd-via82xx
[09:42] <mtholdenss> hey how do i change the permmissions of a folder, amsn folder to be infact to install a skin...
[09:42] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: sudo only asks for passwords ever so often.
[09:42] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: check to see if installing that module fixed your sound card.
[09:42] <kaolti> BlueEagle: oh. i think i got it
[09:42] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: I'm not sure what you mean by adding it to etc/modules. where is that?
[09:42] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: there is a file named modules in the /etc/ directory
[09:42] <kaolti> BlueEagle: how can i unmount a partition?
[09:43] <BlueEagle> kaolti: sudo umount /dev/hdaX
[09:43] <BlueEagle> kaolti: where X is the partition number and I am assuming the primary IDE drive on the first IDE bus.
[09:43] <BlueEagle> s/primary/master/
[09:43] <ephemeros> BlueEagle: but sometimes it says "device is busy", what to do then?
[09:44] <kaolti> BlueEagle: yea it says :/media: device is busy
[09:44] <BlueEagle> ephemeros: leave the directory if you've got a terminal in that directory
[09:44] <kaolti> exactly :)
[09:44] <RicoStallion> etc/modules is read-only
[09:44] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: then you use gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[09:44] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: or sudo nano /etc/modules
[09:45] <ephemeros> hmm...it happened me only in KDE, i remember i quit all about that folder, but i had to restart to unmount
[09:45] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: now I get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." on the volume control
[09:45] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: did it fix your sound card though?
[09:45] <massive222_> BlueEagle:  I run vmware tools on my ubuntu 6.06, which is a guest OS on XP. i installed the vmware tools by converting the rpm to deb. but still no changes happen. somebody told me that i have to configure it.
[09:45] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: I see. What does alsamixer say about things?
[09:45] <massive222_> BlueEagle: but at the start of configuration it asks me where my c compiler is at?
[09:46] <BlueEagle> massive222_: I really don't use vmware so I am unable to help you. Sorry. :/
[09:46] <zm0> massive222_: hi, to install vmware-tools you need build-essential and kernel headers: sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:46] <Healot> !build
[09:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:46] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: where should I look for alsamixer?
[09:46] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Well did you get the mixer up and running?
[09:46] <massive222_> zm0: thanks, i will try it now. do you stay on?
[09:46] <user__> \disconnect
[09:46] <RicoStallion> hang on. I'm looking for it sstill
[09:47] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: in the top left corner you'll see a card and chip name
[09:47] <vilefridge> cypher1: Is there any way to fix the openoffice flashing?
[09:47] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: in a terminal type: alsamixer
[09:47] <zm0> massive222_: i'll stay on...oh and don't use the rpm but unpack the tar.gz and run the install script
[09:47] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[09:47] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: I see.
[09:47] <mesut>  is there patched kernels (omatic and or grsecurity etc) for ubuntu-server?
[09:47] <RicoStallion> I'm glad one of us does
[09:47] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: then installing the module didn't help at all.
[09:48] <MonsieurBon> hello
[09:48] <massive222_> zm0: if i unpack the tar.gz, it asks me a lot of questions: overwrtie this? overwrite that?
[09:48] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: lspci|grep audio
[09:48] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: (still in terminal)
[09:48] <MonsieurBon> i need ghostscript with jpg and png. What do I have to install?
[09:48] <massive222_> zm0: how can i say yes to all
[09:48] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: that whould give you a line similar to (but obviously not identical to): 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[09:49] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: Nothing returned
[09:49] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Oh?
[09:49] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: if you try: lspci
[09:49] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: do you see anything looking like it might have anything to do with sound?
[09:49] <massive222_> zm0: do i need to uninstall the vmware tools first? or just overwrite it?
[09:49] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: You might want to put the output from lspci to !pastebin
[09:49] <BlueEagle> !pastebin
[09:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:49] <RicoStallion> uh... no I don't.
[09:50] <zm0> massive222_: rm -rf the vmware-tools folder first
[09:50] <cypher1> vilefridge: sorry no idea.. even i do the same as you were doing :(
[09:50] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle, I have no idea what you mean by putting the output to !pastebin
[09:50] <cypher1> vilefridge: for me its mostly gaim or a terminal
[09:51] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: 09:50 < ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:51] <|2uben> rico: theres lots of sites where you can just paste text
[09:51] <|2uben> post it, give a link for others to see
[09:51] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: so you would go to that website and post the output you get from `lspci` there.
[09:51] <RicoStallion> yep
[09:51] <aum> hi - where can i get kernel patch for suspend2 for dapper?
[09:51] <vilefridge> cypher1: Yeah I've noticed it isn't limited to any specific app.  I wonder what causes it, it drives me crazy!
[09:52] <_cerberus_> I'm trying to network two computers together using a crossover cable, both are running ubuntu, though one is only a server instal. Does anyone know where I can find a good walk through detailing the process of setting up such a connection or even better does someone have the time to walk me through it
[09:52] <BlueEagle> aum: patches are kernel spesific, not distribution spesific.
[09:52] <aum> but doesn't ubuntu drake run from a patched 2.6.15?
[09:53] <BlueEagle> aum: ie. you can have the same kernel boot ubuntu that boots redhat or debian or slackware or gentoo or trustix or what ever.
[09:53] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: is this the link you're after: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22793
[09:53] <cypher1> _cerberus_: there should not be much difference from how you connect to an ethernet network
[09:53] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: it sure is :)
[09:53] <_cerberus_> I've never connected to an ethernet network before , I use dialup
[09:54] <cypher1> _cerberus_: you can read "ifconfig" manpage as a start
[09:54] <aum> hibernate doesn't work on drake, - suspend ok, but freezes with blank screen on restart
[09:54] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: a geforce3 card with an isa bridge? How terrifically odd. :)
[09:54] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: But I see what you mean. No mention of anything that looks like a sound card there.
[09:54] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: I can tell you it was working in XP before the format and that it's enabled in Bios (AC97)
[09:54] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Are you sure that the sound card is enabled in the bios settings?
[09:55] <RicoStallion> I double checked
[09:55] <RicoStallion> But I can go again.
[09:55] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Well that leaves me very puzzled.
[09:55] <kaolti> BlueEagle: how can i change the rights of the mounted partition?  chmod?
[09:55] <BlueEagle> kaolti: that depends on the filesystem in question.
[09:55] <kaolti> BlueEagle: only root can read/write on it
[09:55] <kaolti> BlueEagle: ext3
[09:56] <massive222_> zm0: i unpacked the tar.gz package do you know how i can install it
[09:56] <RicoStallion> Not sure what that ISA bridge is. Could be to do with the stereoscopic jack on the card. Wooo 3D in 3D!
[09:56] <massive222_> zm0: i did it yesterday, but i forgot
[09:56] <cypher1> kaolti: is it an NTFS partition ?
[09:56] <zm0> massive222_: run the vmware-tools-install script
[09:56] <massive222_> zm0: in terminal?
[09:57] <kaolti> cypher1: no its ext3 i need write/read right on it, i mounted it with sudo
[09:57] <kaolti> cypher1: chmod?
[09:57] <voda-AFK> hi
[09:57] <zm0> massive222_: yes in terminal, cd to vmware-tools folder and then sudo ./vmware-tools-install.pl (or something similar)
[09:57] <cypher1> kaolti: is it mentioned in /etc/fstab
[09:57] <BlueEagle> kaolti: you can attempt to chmod the mountpoint after the fs is mounted.
[09:57] <voda-AFK> anyone here familiar with installing netgear MA111 usb wifi card?
[09:58] <kaolti> cypher1: no its not there
[09:58] <mYth[SeNtiX] > hi
[09:58] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Which mobo are we talking about here?
[09:58] <kaolti> BlueEagle: yes thats what i want chmod +w or how?
[09:59] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle. I'd have to look. I don't know off the top of me head
[09:59] <BlueEagle> kaolti: chmod -R a+rwx /path/to/mountpoint
[09:59] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Please do.
[09:59] <mYth[SeNtiX] > i installed ubuntu server and then installed xfce for when i need a gui, somebody tell me how to turn the xserver off while not using it to save on ram?
[09:59] <cypher1> kaolti: can you share the mount command used ?
[09:59] <RicoStallion> I'll try the easy way first
[10:00] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: you could look for it in lsusb
[10:00] <kaolti> cypher1: yes sudo mount /dev/hda4 /media/hda4
[10:00] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: but I doubt that any mobo would put an integrated sound card on the usb port
[10:00] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: that leaves the isa port
[10:00] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: but I've never seen an integrated sound card on the ISA bus.
[10:01] <kaolti> BlueEagle: it works now thanks
[10:01] <BlueEagle> kaolti: good.
[10:01] <massive222_> zm0: bin  doc  etc  FILES  INSTALL  installer  lib  vmware-install.pl
[10:02] <massive222_> zm0:these are the files
[10:02] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle; so far, it's an MSI...
[10:02] <zm0> massive222_: run vmware-install.pl like this: sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[10:02] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: MSI have made a few different models. Got anything more spesific?
[10:02] <RicoStallion> 851E Pro
[10:02] <RicoStallion> oops
[10:02] <RicoStallion> 815E
[10:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > anyone can please tell me where to stop programs from automatically starting at startup?
[10:03] <RicoStallion> It has one ISA slot/
[10:03] <massive222_> zm0: shall i install it in /usr/bin
[10:03] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Let me google it.
[10:04] <zm0> massive222_: yeah, the defaults are allright
[10:04] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_detail.php?UID=85&kind=1 if you're not already there
[10:06] <Dimitrius> Hei can anyone tell me how to change group with terminal (GNOME)?
[10:06] <triplc> hello every one
[10:06] <kaolti> myth[sentix] : go to system->preferences->sessions
[10:06] <rixxon> Dimitrius: group?
[10:06] <kaolti> myth[sentix] : and u have a startup programs tab there
[10:07] <RicoStallion> I think I lied about that ISA slot. I'm confusing the CNR with it.
[10:07] <triplc> please advice: my computer is "intel dual core pentium D 2.8", i have install ubuntu dapper arch=amd64 the system just starts and working so far so good; please advice which kernel i should use
[10:07] <RicoStallion> ISAs were darker brown and 3/4ths of a mile long...
[10:07] <mYth[SeNtiX] > kaolti i need to do this by console since i'm trying to find a way to stop xserver from starting at startup
[10:07] <Dimitrius> yes change group in  direktory...
[10:08] <blenda> hi! how do i change my locale from utf8 to latin1?
[10:08] <triplc> which one should i use: amd64-generic -or amd64-k8 or server or xeon?
[10:08] <nalpha> guys there is a website talking about what's and why we use linux not windows? what's the advantage, the powerfull, good security and all of advantage using linux than windows?
[10:08] <kaolti> myth[sentix] : uhmm then i dont know :(.there is a conf file or startup script somewhere.
[10:08] <freesun> hello anyone can recommend me to buy either Fujitsu-Siemens notebook or Acer notebook? what should work better with ubuntu? F-S is Sempron with Ati X1100 and Asus is Sempron with GF 6100... any recommendations? Exactly they are F-S Amilo Pa1510 and Asus A6M-Q015
[10:09] <freesun> ow misspeling... it had to be Asus not Acer
[10:09] <BlueEagle> 241BGA doesn't return very many results :/
[10:09] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : you can run 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' this prevents gdm from automatically starting
[10:09] <triplc> hello every one; please advice: my computer is "intel dual core pentium D 2.8", i have install ubuntu dapper arch=amd64 the system just starts and working so far so good; please advice which kernel i should use: generic/k8/k8-smp/server or xeon???
[10:10] <massive222_> zm0: how can i install at once? first i found a directory in /etc/ and i typed rm -rf  that folder
[10:10] <mYth[SeNtiX] > so if gdm doesnt start neither won't xserver?
[10:10] <massive222_> zm0: but now i see that /usr/lib and /usr/bin
[10:10] <triplc> nalpha, i think for linux starter to read: http://www.getgnulinux.org/
[10:11] <massive222_> zm0: has also been written with vmware.
[10:11] <zm0> massive222_: just hit enter to accept the defaults
[10:11] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: Still, the fact that it doesn't show up in lspci leaves me puzzled
[10:11] <blenda> triplc: check for compability errors at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[10:11] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: worst case it should have been an unknown device :/
[10:11] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: but it shouldn't have not been listed.
[10:11] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : yes that's right
[10:11] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: I am sorry but I'm drawing blanks on this one. :(
[10:11] <mYth[SeNtiX] > ah ok tnx
[10:11] <RicoStallion> that's ok.
[10:12] <triplc> blenda: thanks, i check it now
[10:12] <RicoStallion> I only installed Ubuntu on this PC to see if it was better than XP
[10:12] <freesun> please: Which notebook brand goes better with Ubuntu? Asus or Fujitsu-Siemens?
[10:12] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can tell me  a good surround (6channel) test film?
[10:12] <RicoStallion> BlueEagle: thanks for your time and help.
[10:12] <BlueEagle> ricostallion: np. Sorry I couldn't fix it.
[10:13] <RicoStallion> this terminal stuff is way more difficult than DOS
[10:13] <triplc> blenda: you now. my computer is a desktop, a white box desktop
[10:13] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0, and one more thing please, when i start the gui manually when i need it, to stop it, which process do i need to kill?
[10:13] <BlueEagle> metamorfozis: 5.1 or 7.1?
[10:13] <MetaMorfoziS> 5.1
[10:14] <blenda> triplc: oops, my answer was ment for freesun 8-)
[10:14] <blenda> freesun: check for compability errors at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[10:15] <MetaMorfoziS> BlueEagle: do you know a film?
[10:15] <flasher> irawan: i've removed ivman now. but when i do  sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom, the terminal just kind of sits there
[10:15] <freesun> blenda: thanks I coulnd't find it though I visited it yesterday...
[10:15] <BlueEagle> metamorfozis: no, I was just curious
[10:15] <AbortD> hm i'm having problems with using a launcher with wine it says im missing a file for the program but whenever i go into it with terminal there is no problem
[10:15] <massive222_> zm0: ok now i think i uninstaled every thing with vmwaretools
[10:15] <infidel> anyone know where i can download lotus notes?
[10:15] <massive222_> zm0: but for the next time, if i want to overwrite alot of things, how can i type: yes to all
[10:16] <MetaMorfoziS> :(((
[10:17] <blenda> freesun: ok
[10:17] <massive222_> zm0: but for the next time, if i want to overwrite alot of things, how can i type: yes to all
[10:18] <flasher> Cerveza: help. i can't mount anymore
[10:18] <Gameplayer> hello !
[10:18] <BlueEagle> massive222_: if it's copy you can usually use a instead of y
[10:18] <BlueEagle> massive222_: (assuming you're using cp in a terminal)
[10:18] <massive222_> ok
[10:18] <massive222_> thanks
[10:19] <Gameplayer> does anyone know if there is a problem with security.ubuntu.com ?
[10:19] <kaffeewoller> hi
[10:19] <jfletcher> Gameplayer: whats the whole line from sources.list
[10:19] <jfletcher> check it's the same as your version of ubuntu.
[10:19] <CorpseFeeder> ok, I'm not sure what to comment out of this interface file. I see: auto lo ; iface lo inet loopback ; auto eth0 ; iface eth0 inet dhcp ; iface eth1 inet dhcp ; auto eth2 ; iface eth2 inet dhcp ; auto ath0 ; iface ath0 inet dhcp ; auto wlan0 ; iface wlan0 inet dhcp ; iface ra0 inet dhcp ; wireless-essid biocrapola ; wireless-key s:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; auto ra0 ; auto eth1 ; but all on separate lines obviously....
[10:20] <kaffeewoller> can i browse accessible wlans by network-manager-gnome?
[10:20] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: ethX are wired and wlanX are wireless nics
[10:20] <BlueEagle> !info gnome-network-manager
[10:20] <ubotu> Package gnome-network-manager does not exist in any distro I know
[10:20] <BlueEagle> !info network-manager-gnome
[10:20] <redblades> hi all, is it possible to order a server install CD?
[10:20] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[10:21] <redblades> Many of the computers I work with aren't able to handle the GUI installer.
[10:21] <CorpseFeeder> yes.. and to stop the computer locking up when it boots with the wireless card in do I comment out all the wired network stuff or all the wireless network stuff? Does this mean my ehternet will no longer work if I manage to make this wireless card work?
[10:23] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: since the wireless card was the one causing trouble I would start by commenting out the wireless NICs
[10:23] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: then start the computer with the NIC inserted and fillow the wireless how-to to set it up before enabling it in /etc/interfaces
[10:24] <BlueEagle> corpsefeeder: usual suspects are firmware or broken ndiswrapper.
[10:24] <CorpseFeeder> i don't think i even have an ndiswrapper
[10:24] <redondo81> ,I have a problem installing the kde headers...when I try to install the kdelib24-dev package Adept says me that it's broken...I don't know why?Can you help me?
[10:25] <massive222_> zm0: i installed the headers, and the vmtools is installed. how can i enhance my visual settings? i want a higher resolution
[10:26] <shaorang> hi!
[10:26] <maestro> hola
[10:26] <maestro__> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:26] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell massive222_ about es
[10:26] <hockyhair> what is the name of the battery monitering app gnome uses, or the one kde uses? i wanna call it in another x-windows mgr
[10:26] <maestro_> hi!
[10:26] <BlueEagle> massive222_: sorry mis-nicked
[10:26] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell maestro_ about es
[10:26] <maestro_> hello
[10:26] <sobersabre> guys, gnome-2.16 is out.
[10:26] <jerb> yes
[10:26] <sobersabre> how do I get it for my ubuntu-dapper ?
[10:26] <massive222_> zm0: are you here?
[10:27] <maestro_> hola
[10:27] <maestro__> gracias guapo
[10:27] <BlueEagle> maestro_: Have you got a question at all?
[10:27] <maestro> y t?
[10:27] <maestro__> yo
[10:27] <yoshiznit123> sobersabre, compile it :-)
[10:27] <redondo81> ,I have a problem installing the kde headers...when I try to install the kdelibs4-dev package Adept says me that it's broken...I don't know why?Can you help me?
[10:27] <maestro__> eh?
[10:27] <redondo81> Can anyone help me please?
[10:27] <sobersabre> yoshiznit123 I am almost doing it, but ... is there people that've done this already ?
[10:28] <zm0> massive222_: i'm back :-) you should restart X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and then change your resolution in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[10:28] <maestro__> in spanish porfa
[10:28] <BlueEagle> !es
[10:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:28] <kaffeewoller> nm-applet only tells me, i have no network connection. but i am currently connected to my wlan
[10:29] <yoshiznit123> sobersabre, i'm using edgy where they have 2.16.0... maybe you can use some of those deb's? maybe bad advice though...
[10:29] <Zardiac> Hi i am looking for a application similair to MS publisher? Can anyone help?
[10:29] <gypsymauro> hello
[10:29] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell yoshiznit123 about edgy
[10:29] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : ...stop & start GDM (and X) like this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm {stop|start|restart}
[10:29] <sobersabre> yoshiznit123, there should be a thing named "packport".
[10:29] <sobersabre> the hmm.
[10:29] <sobersabre> s/packport/backport/
[10:29] <BlueEagle> yoshiznit123: ignore that. I'm too tired.
[10:29] <sobersabre> :)
[10:29] <BlueEagle> :)
[10:29] <yoshiznit123> BlueEagle, i'm not looking for support
[10:29] <gypsymauro> I'm compiling a vanilla kernel, but it doesn't boot with the ubuntu splashscreen there is an HOWTO on enable it ?
[10:30] <yoshiznit123> blueeagle, haha yea me too :-)
[10:30] <ProN00b> how can i resolve windows computer names to ip's on linux ?
[10:30] <yoshiznit123> sobersabre, you can also keep a mixed system, which is a bit more difficult
[10:30] <redblades> Hello?
[10:31] <redblades> Is it possible to order Ubuntu server CDs ?
[10:31] <yoshiznit123> sobersabre, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version
[10:31] <sobersabre> redblades ubuntu server is just a package selection on the regular CD, afaik.
[10:31] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0 tried that 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' didn't stop xfce4
[10:32] <sobersabre> yoshiznit123, does etchy have xgl ?
[10:32] <sobersabre> with compiz..
[10:32] <sobersabre> ?
[10:32] <yoshiznit123> sobersabre, not by default
[10:32] <stewee> I set up a postfix mail gateway, but I can not send emails from gmail, hotmail.... only from the hosts specified in mynetworks.  Someone know how I can make it accept emails from everywhere?
[10:32] <redblades> sobersabre, no, there is an image you can get.
[10:32] <sobersabre> is it ever going to be in the mainstream distro ?
[10:32] <Hoxzer_> does gnome have a equal packed for arts?
[10:32] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : are you running ubuntu or xubuntu?
[10:32] <yoshiznit123> sobersabre, no, i think they're trying to move to aiglx, and quinn's repo is more up to date anyways
[10:33] <redblades> Hoxzer_, also
[10:33] <redblades> Hoxzer_, ALSA
[10:33] <stewee> someone knows how I can let my postfix server accept mails from all other mailservers?
[10:33] <AbortD> anyone know anything about wine?
[10:33] <Hoxzer_> redblades: ... humm......
[10:33] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0 ubuntu-server with xfce4 manually installed
[10:33] <redblades> AbortD, it gets better with age.
[10:33] <ProN00b> how can i resolve windows computer names to ip's on linux ?
[10:33] <Slinkin> I've tried to mount my firewire harddrive (NTFS) and make it writeable using the fuse-guide, but now I can't even see the files anymore??
[10:33] <Hoxzer_> redblades: I think they arent actually alike...
[10:33] <sobersabre> AbortD , good question. I think the answer is: YES. somebody knows something about wine.
[10:34] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : and you started xfce with startx?
[10:34] <AbortD> well i need help :|
[10:34] <redblades> AbortD, WITH?
[10:34] <redblades> "Does anyone know "X"" is very pointless.
[10:34] <mYth[SeNtiX] > nah i just restarted the system and it started
[10:34] <AbortD> when i setup a launch thing on the desktop and try to open the program using the proper string with wine infront of the path
[10:34] <AbortD> i get file missing errors
[10:34] <yoshiznit123> abortd, you might need quotes
[10:34] <massive222> zm0: i dissconnected
[10:35] <AbortD> quotes?
[10:35] <anxt> may i ask a dumb q.  i have ubuntu installed to disk i can oing a 192.168 ip, no dns resolution it is in /etc/resolv.conf.  i haven't set a gateway which i need
[10:35] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : look in /etc/init.d/ for 'xdm'
[10:35] <AbortD> ok thanks
[10:35] <AbortD> around the whole thing?
[10:35] <redblades> AbortD, or, you have important DLLs missing.
[10:35] <yoshiznit123> abortd, around the filename
[10:35] <anxt> is ther elike a network script or something?
[10:35] <yoshiznit123> or what redblades said :-)
[10:35] <redblades> ;-)
[10:36] <massive222> zm0: are we still where we were?
[10:36] <AbortD> i do not have any dls missing for this....
[10:36] <redblades> AbortD, what message do you get?
[10:36] <AbortD> and yoshiznit123 it didnt work
[10:36] <AbortD> hold on
[10:36] <yoshiznit123> abortd, can you paste the line?
[10:36] <AbortD> Fatal:
[10:36] <zm0> massive222: where were we? changing resolution?
[10:37] <AbortD> Cannot open 'fonts.mul'
[10:37] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0 no xdm in init.d
[10:37] <redblades> Abber, sonds like a missing windows file.
[10:37] <massive222> zm0: yes. do you remember what you told me?
[10:37] <massive222> zm0: because i lost my GUI
[10:37] <redblades> I'd say, google for the file, and see if you can't track it down.
[10:37] <Slinkin> help, I can
[10:38] <redblades> massive222, GUIs are for wimps. :P
[10:38] <Slinkin> Help I can't see my ntfs harddrive
[10:38] <massive222> zm0: after executing that
[10:38] <yoshiznit123> abortd, yea and it depends what application you're trying to run. maybe asking #winehq would help too
[10:38] <massive222> redblades: hahahaha
[10:38] <massive222> redblades: i mean gnome desktop
[10:38] <redblades> Oh?
[10:38] <redblades> You lost it?
[10:38] <zm0> massive222: did you restart gdm from within the gui, oops sorry, you should run gdm restart from another vty -> ctrl+alt+f1
[10:38] <k31th> how can i change my username? usermod?
[10:39] <zm0> massive222: just run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:39] <newindo> how i can mount vfat with rw permission for other user
[10:39] <Slinkin> yep
[10:39] <massive222> zm0: in the terminal?
[10:39] <redblades> k31th, I did that a month ago, and I can't remember it, but I do recall that there where hundreds and hundreds of Google results (relevant)
[10:39] <zm0> massive222: yes
[10:39] <mkquist_> slinkin - have u mounted the drive? like in fstab? u might check that..
[10:40] <newindo> how can i mount vfat
[10:41] <Slinkin> mkquist_: Yep, its an external... I tried to make it writeable using fuse, but now i can't even read it
[10:41] <LookTJ> K31th: system -> administration -> users and groups
[10:41] <massive222> zm0: good to know for the next time. because now i went to /etx/X11 and started x
[10:41] <mkquist_> slinkin - im not worth much right now, but that would be my suggestion.. google it and look for something in the ubuntu forums, u can do it, ur settings are just not right
[10:41] <massive222> zm0: and then everything was fucked up
[10:41] <massive222> zm0: i restarted the machine
[10:41] <massive222> zm0:
[10:41] <mkquist_> slinkin - check ur fstab
[10:42] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : i don't know where your xfce4 gets started on boot...maybe look around a bit in your init scripts
[10:42] <massive222> zm0: so i installed the vmtools
[10:42] <massive222> zm0: what should i do next to enhance my resolution
[10:42] <mkquist_> or try using gksudo, to change the settings... alt/f2 fksudo nautilus...
[10:43] <zm0> massive222: now you can change your resolution go to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[10:43] <mkquist_> slinkin - last from me for u
[10:43] <massive222> zm0:
[10:43] <mkquist_> tgksudo....byw
[10:43] <mkquist_> lol...btw
[10:43] <mkquist_> im toast, just a thought
[10:44] <Slinkin> mkquist_: ok but my fstab is right I think I changed the GID and everything the wikiguide said..
[10:44] <massive222> zm0: no i can not, because what you told me before i disconnected, did not completed. so now in pereferences, it still is 1024 my highest resolution
[10:45] <mkquist_> slinkin-well somethings wrong, cause i can mount and 'see' /read my ntfs part, and thats all i changed look further, if was more 'here' id be more specific, sry about that
[10:45] <massive222> zm0: can u see what was it that you told me? the one that i lost my gui with. i should do that again. but i dont have the log anymore
[10:45] <Slinkin> ok. thanks anyway..
[10:45] <zm0> massive222: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart from another vty -> ctrl+alt+f1
[10:46] <massive222> zm0: what does it mean: from another vty?
[10:47] <mkquist_> slinkin, hold on a mo, ill give this a go
[10:47] <zm0> massive222: Virtual TeletYpe interface
[10:47] <_cerberus_> Ok, I've done all I can to set up a network between two ubuntu boxes and now I'm stuck. I've set up the addresses in /etc/networking/interfaces and restarted the network but still cannot ping either machine from the other. can anyone help me!?
[10:47] <massive222> zm0: how can i go there?
[10:48] <zm0> massive222: ctrl+alt+f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 etc..X is on f7 (usually)
[10:48] <Slinkin> mkquist: Ok cool, the problem is not i can't see it.. I could see it from the beginning, but after i've mounted it as a fuse-thing I can't see it.. I need to have read/write access..
[10:49] <massive222> zm0: so when im in ubuntu i shoud press these combination? or shall go to my host OS
[10:50] <zm0> massive222: in ubuntu (guest os)
[10:50] <mkquist_> slinkin - give me a mo... im not 'in the best state' but ive done this... im looking
[10:50] <massive222> zm0: i tried, nothing happened
[10:50] <zm0> massive222:  i run vmware host on linux and i can't use ctrl+alt+f1 but use alt+f1
[10:50] <Healot> you need to change the full screen swith key to a different key combo
[10:51] <mkquist_> slinkin - see if this helps u... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1886.html
[10:52] <Healot> you need to change the full screen swith key to a different key combo >> zm0
[10:52] <Gameplayer> hello
[10:53] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0: regarding xfce4 at boot, could this be what starts it? 'xfce4-session'
[10:53] <massive222> zm0: is there maybe another way? because none of alt+f combs work
[10:54] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : where is it located, in what script?
[10:54] <AbortD> !wine
[10:54] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:54] <mYth[SeNtiX] > i just checked from their site
[10:55] <mYth[SeNtiX] > mind telling me which startup scripts do i need to check?
[10:56] <mp_> External harddrives with NTFS formats .. Is it not possible to use them on Ubuntu? I have to reformat the to FAT ?
[10:56] <mkquist_> slinkin - try something like this for ur permissions.. /dev/hdb3       /media/xpstore	ntfs    	nls=utf8,umask=0222 	   0       0
[10:56] <zm0> massive222: i'll ask a windows-using coworker to start vmware with a ubuntu guest...brb
[10:56] <massive222> ok
[10:56] <massive222> zm0: thanks alot
[10:56] <Flonares> Hi all
[10:56] <massive222> zm0: i will wait
[10:56] <mkquist_> slinkin - its the unmask, i believe that makes it, but right now im sure there are others that can help when they see this too
[10:57] <Flonares> can someone help me, please?
[10:57] <mkquist_> slinkin - sry im not more helpful right now
[10:57] <mYth[SeNtiX] > just ask Flonares somebody will answer if they know
[10:57] <mkquist_> later - allz
[10:57] <Flonares> Thks
[10:57] <Slinkin> mkquist_: I've found something in the forum, I'll give it a shot.. Thanks
[10:57] <mkquist_> too much XXX...lol
[10:57] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : start with rc.local in /etc/init.d
[10:57] <Flonares> I installed G gcc compilers but they do not work
[10:57] <mkquist_> slinkin - g/l
[10:58] <mkquist_> slinkin - check the umask in my post, might do it for u
[10:58] <mkquist_> gnite all
[10:58] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : you can grep for startx: grep startx /etc/init.d/* -R
[10:58] <Flonares> when i make apt-source search gcc, i see the compilers. However, if i try to run g77, they won't work. How can i put it back to work?
[10:58] <Flonares> GNU*
[10:58] <rofl0r> Flonares, gcc is preinstalled
[10:59] <Flonares> rofl0r, was i?
[10:59] <AstralJava> Flonares: You're better off issuing sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:59] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : or grep for xfce4-session or startxfce4
[10:59] <Flonares> it*
[10:59] <rofl0r> sure
[10:59] <Flonares> but it doesn't work
[10:59] <rofl0r> how else could you run a makefile
[10:59] <Flonares> it didn't
[10:59] <Healot> !build
[10:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:59] <Flonares> i had to install make
[10:59] <rofl0r> u mean g++ or gcc ?
[11:00] <Flonares> g77
[11:00] <Flonares> g90
[11:00] <Flonares> g95
[11:00] <Flonares> and such
[11:00] <Flonares> I want the compilers up and running, but i don't know how to.
[11:00] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0 always grep in init.d no?
[11:00] <Healot> !build > Flonares
[11:01] <rofl0r> go in synaptic, and search them, then install
[11:01] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : it's probably where xfce4 gets started...
[11:01] <Flonares> in synaptic?
[11:01] <Flonares> Ok
[11:01] <Flonares> brb
[11:01] <AbortD> !cedega
[11:02] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:02] <Healot> you need "build-essential", Flonares
[11:02] <AbortD> how good does the free version of cedega work?
[11:03] <Flonares> I have very stupid question. Under what category may i find the compilers?
[11:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0 grep for starx gives this result
[11:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc:# global xinitrc file, used by all X sessions started by xinit (startx)
[11:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > /etc/X11/Xsession:# global Xsession file -- used by display managers and xinit (startx)
[11:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > /etc/X11/config/cf/xf86site.def: * the servers by hand (with xinit or startx), then they do need to be
[11:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > /etc/X11/config/cf/xorgsite.def: * the servers by hand (with xinit or startx), then they do need to be
[11:03] <rambo3> !paste
[11:03] <rofl0r> just click on search Flonares
[11:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > soz
[11:03] <anxt> for xubuntu is there a mythtv package?
[11:03] <Flonares> thks, rofl0r
[11:03] <anxt> do i need to add a sources.list?
[11:03] <rambo3> anxt its all the same
[11:04] <anxt> that is wot i thought
[11:04] <anxt> no package named mythtv
[11:04] <rambo3> !info mythtv
[11:04] <ubotu> mythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:04] <raj> how to group user on the bases of project in bugzilla
[11:04] <anxt> or even mplayer for that matter (i can see why i think they want comile on each machine not bnary iirc)
[11:05] <rambo3> but i would build my own mythtv from source if you plan on using it as standalone
[11:05] <mYth[SeNtiX] > zm0 or it could be: /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc
[11:05] <anxt> rambo3: easy enough but there are no packages?
[11:05] <anxt> will the zubuntu qt have mysql support?
[11:06] <AbortD> anyone know a good program to run windows mmorpg's through?
[11:06] <rambo3> anxt add mulituniverse
[11:06] <zm0> mYth[SeNtiX] : that script is not auto-started at boot
[11:06] <anxt> rambo3: sorry to sound idjit, is that in sources.list?
[11:06] <anxt> i am a gentoo user normally
[11:07] <rambo3> anxt yeah , or you could just check them in synaptic
[11:07] <massive222> zm0: anything yet?
[11:07] <ephemeros> where are the damn ubuntu logos? i dont find them lately... :(
[11:07] <massive222> zm0: did he started it?
[11:07] <anxt> rambo3: how do i do that?
[11:07] <rambo3> !repos
[11:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:07] <Flonares> how can i select all the compilers at the sime time, for installation?
[11:08] <Flonares> same*
[11:08] <rofl0r> search g++, mark, then g77, mark, then apply
[11:08] <crashd> !easysource
[11:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:08] <crashd> ahh
[11:08] <crashd> heh
[11:09] <AstralJava> Flonares: Just to make sure you caught us, please mark build-essential as well. It's crucial.
[11:09] <zm0> massive222: my xp-loving coworker is looking scared, booting a 606 live-cd...just a few moments
[11:10] <massive222> zm0: hahaha, ok
[11:10] <_cerberus_> I'm trying to set up a connection between two ubuntu boxes, so far as I know I have the address, network and netmask correctly in /etc/networking/interfaces what else do I need to do?
[11:10] <rambo3> anxt https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:10] <jerb> spell checkers make me seem a lot smarter than i really am
[11:10] <Hoxzer_> :D I'm losing my mind with teamspeak, I just find no way to make it to use alsa
[11:10] <Flonares> AstralJava, how shall i do that?
[11:10] <rambo3> jerb edgy
[11:10] <massive222> zm0: how do you come to your knowledge of linux? experience or did you read a good book
[11:11] <Flonares> I'm a bit lost :s  sorry
[11:11] <rofl0r> _cerberus_, install openssh
[11:11] <AstralJava> Flonares: The same way you mark any other package in Synaptic (if that's what you use).
[11:11] <massive222> zm0: i really want to know more, but i dont know where to start. do you know any good book or ebook or...
[11:11] <_cerberus_> roflor, eventually, but at the moment I'm not even able to ping either box from the other
[11:11] <Flonares> It's the first time, actually :s
[11:12] <Flonares> i installed UBUNTU yesterday
[11:12] <rofl0r> _cerberus_, what r u tryin to achieve ?
[11:12] <visik7> is laptop_mode crash fixed in dapper ?
[11:12] <_cerberus_> eventually I'll install openssh, I need to transfer files between the boxes
[11:13] <RudyValencia> Hi; if I say "apt-get install <package>" and my repositories *do not* include the Ubuntu Dapper CD, will the package I get be up-to-date?
[11:13] <rofl0r> so set up your network first ?
[11:13] <Gameplayer> i've got some problems while applying security updates in my ubuntu server, anyone have an idea ?
[11:13] <Gameplayer> (with apt-get upgrade)
[11:13] <rofl0r> RudyValencia, yes
[11:13] <RudyValencia> thanks
[11:14] <AstralJava> Gameplayer: Pastebin the errors you're getting, if there are any, otherwise please elaborate which kind of problems you're having.
[11:14] <Flonares> AstralJava, how do i distingish between build-essential and other?
[11:14] <zm0> massive222: been using linux for 3 years now before and it's my job now too, pick up some o'reilly books.
[11:14] <AstralJava> Flonares: You don't have to, you can mark them all.
[11:15] <Gameplayer> AstralJava :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22798 and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22797
[11:15] <Flonares> How do i mark them all at the same time?
[11:15] <Flonares> is there a way?
[11:15] <AstralJava> Flonares: Build-essential is a meta-package that will pull all the needed packages you otherwise missed.
[11:15] <zm0> massive222: just tried vmware-server on an xp pro workstation running a 606 ubuntu guest and ctrl+alt+fX changes the vty
[11:15] <zm0> massive222: what version of vmware are you using?
[11:15] <massive222> 5.5
[11:16] <AstralJava> Flonares: I believe someone already answered that one, just use the search function to find the package, mark it, search another, mark that one as well, and when you're done, hit Apply changes.
[11:16] <massive222> zm0: vmware workstation 5.5.1
[11:17] <AstralJava> Gameplayer: I'm sorry, my French is too rusty. Try #ubuntu-fr (I believe that was it).
[11:17] <zm0> massive222: hmmm, try some other combinations like ctrl+shift+f1 or shifth+alt+f1 or visit the vmware forum
[11:18] <Gameplayer> i'm trying too
[11:18] <rofl0r> is vmware free 4 linux ?
[11:18] <massive222> zm0: i did everything
[11:18] <massive222> zm0: with shift ctrl and alt and fx
[11:18] <zm0> rofl0r: yeah player is free and server too
[11:18] <Gameplayer> the problem is that the download start and then stop afeter diownloading 1 or 2 Ko
[11:18] <massive222> zm0: can i start it from terminal
[11:18] <Gameplayer> and then i got a 'timout connexion'
[11:18] <zm0> massive222: start X? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:20] <AstralJava> Gameplayer: I suggest just try again later. Maybe there was something wrong with the server, or the lines are slow ATM.
[11:21] <Flonares> Thks for your time
[11:21] <massive222> zm0: no, can i start vty form terminal
[11:21] <Flonares> gcc is up ;)
[11:22] <Gameplayer> ok
[11:22] <AstralJava> Flonares: Good to hear that.
[11:22] <Flonares> AstralJava,rofl0r, U're my guru's! thanks ;)
[11:22] <zm0> massive222: not possible i think...
[11:22] <bionoid> Ive been having some weirdo issues with gnome lately - when using it, all is good, but occasionally when I leave the computer for some time, it logs me out automatically (which is fine), but when logging back in, desktop wallpaper settings have vanished, and my launcher buttons are all messed up (in terms of position).. Anyone have similar things going on?!
[11:23] <AbortD> anyone know of a good windows emu for playing mmorpgs?
[11:23] <xuoroux> exit
[11:24] <zm0> massive222: got to get some work done, bbl :-)
[11:26] <sonny> i delet my task panel for no care i want to it back i don't know how to get it back
[11:26] <massive222> zm0: so i must give up hope?
[11:27] <massive222> zm0: or is there still a way
[11:27] <sonny> i want to enable task panel what should i do?
[11:32] <massive222> does anybody knows anything about virual teletype interface
[11:32] <bugihugi> t
[11:32] <Adross> for some reason my session start up list is borked. When scrolling up and down rapidly, I get screen remnants and my comp can't properly display some objects
[11:32] <Adross> http://home.exetel.com.au/adrenal/xine.png
[11:33] <Adross> that's what should be the xine controller, for example
[11:33] <Laibsch> hi, I have some trouble with drupal on ubuntu.  I forgot to change the initial admin password.  Therefore I wanted to start afresh and purged the package, restarting from scratch.  But alas, something must be left over since drupal does not present me with the page to create an admin account which it does on a fresh install.  What shall I do?
[11:37] <oskude> Laibsch: you can install it from their "official" .tar.gz packages... no need to apt-get install php apps... but you could look if the mysql tables are empty for drupal...
[11:37] <Laibsch> oskude: Thanks, I will try that.
[11:38] <Genscher> hey :)
[11:39] <Genscher> my friend said that "actually i like linux (ubuntu) more than MSW. it's so clear and easy accessable"
[11:39] <Genscher> he never used linux before and even didn't know what a shell is
[11:39] <Genscher> :)
[11:40] <Genscher> and that's he using ubuntu on a laptop
[11:41] <Genscher> only a few things he found weird: 1. when adding a user in "user management", he couldn't delete it after it...pressing delete is fine, but the user doesn't get deleted
[11:41] <Genscher> maybe some gnome/ubuntu bug
[11:41] <GreenMan> hello people
[11:42] <GreenMan> would somebody help me configuring network in ubuntu?
[11:42] <Genscher> another thing is, that he like to have VLC autoplaying his dvd's. where can he/I change the settings so vls is started instead of the totem dvd player to autoplay dvd's?
[11:42] <Genscher> (couldn'd find a menu for it)
[11:42] <Genscher> GreenMan: "normal" network is plug-and-play
[11:43] <GreenMan> Heh i plug it but cannot play :)
[11:43] <rambo3> right-clicking on a dvd file  in Nautilus and choose "Properties" and changing the default preferred program there.
[11:43] <Genscher> nautilus, ok, never saw that
[11:44] <Genscher> thank you
[11:44] <Genscher> is nautilus the "filesystem-browser"?
[11:44] <sonny> i delete my task list i want to find it back how can i find it?
[11:44] <rambo3> yes
[11:44] <oskude> Genscher: nautilus is the (graphical) filemanager in ubuntu... so you propably see it daily...
[11:44] <Genscher> ah thank you!
[11:45] <Genscher> ok, now i only need to install a wlan driver to disable the wlan device :)
[11:45] <Genscher> because it's active the whole time searching for network it seems...
[11:45] <GreenMan> i have Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC and some acces point for wireless on my roof
[11:46] <GreenMan> eth0 is enabled but i still can't connect to internet
[11:46] <Genscher> GreenMan: ok, wireless is not plug and play..but that wireless, not "normal" network :D
[11:46] <GreenMan> Ok
[11:46] <Genscher> search for "ndiswrapper"on ubuntu forums
[11:47] <kaolti> hi
[11:47] <kaolti> i need to set up internet connection sharing with ubuntu.can anybody help?
[11:47] <kaolti> i have firestarter
[11:47] <Genscher> usung dsl router?
[11:47] <Genscher> *using
[11:48] <kaolti> but it doesnt work
[11:48] <kaolti> Genscher: me?
[11:48] <Genscher> yeah
[11:48] <GreenMan> ndiswrapper - is it a forum member or what?
[11:49] <kaolti> well it looks like this i have ubuntu with direct conn to internet on eth1 and connected to a win xp box on eth0
[11:49] <kaolti> firestarter set for ICS
[11:49] <oskude> !ndiswrapper
[11:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:49] <Pierric1> Core 2 Duo Installing problems, any helps ?
[11:49] <kaolti> manually set ip for eth0 and the winxp box
[11:49] <lodder_> hello, i yust install ubuntu server but i can't login as root how can i make sure i can login as root ?
[11:49] <oskude> !root > lodder_
[11:50] <illusia-ru> lodder_ use account which you made and use sudo
[11:50] <rambo3> ubuntu server install cd should have root account
[11:50] <rambo3> !root
[11:50] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:50] <Healot> it's no right...
[11:50] <Genscher> lodder_: you have to give root a password
[11:50] <Genscher> "sudo passwd"
[11:50] <Healot> s/no/not
[11:50] <kaolti> on the win box i have ip 192.168.0.2 gateway 192.168.0.1(the ip of eth0 o nthe ubuntu)
[11:50] <kaolti> whats wrong?
[11:51] <Pierric1> I'm trying to install an ubuntu Amd64 arch on a Intel core 2 duo, is that possible ?
[11:51] <Genscher> Pierric1: try the live cd...
[11:51] <Genscher> and you'll see
[11:51] <Pierric1> It boots, but stop during the File System mounting
[11:51] <Healot> Pierric1: very possible
[11:52] <kaolti> nobody has done this?
[11:52] <Pierric1> it says : "Can't access tty, job control turned off"
[11:52] <Genscher> intel bought the amd64 technology
[11:53] <Healot> they rebrand it as EMt64?
[11:53] <Healot> i don't much about geek business politics
[11:53] <CorpseFeeder> I've had no luck at all getting my wireless card to work by installing the driver with instructions given here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rt61 - all I succeeded in doing was rendering my computer unbootable with card plugged in.
[11:54] <CorpseFeeder> i think I will have to go the ndiswrapper method instead
[11:54] <Pierric1> I download : http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso, isn't correct ?
[11:54] <kaolti> Ganscher: can u help?
[11:54] <mooky> correct for what ?
[11:54] <Pierric1> for insalling on an intel core 2 duo arch
[11:55] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. does anyone know where I can start looking as to why my computer stops on reboot/shutdown at "Will now reboot/hault" .. I left it all night thinking maybe something needed to run, but it wasn't rebooted by the morning . help?
[11:55] <mooky> no
[11:55] <mooky> I don't think so
[11:56] <CromagDK> Pierric1: make sure your CPU's are 64bits
[11:56] <Pierric1> mooky > so what to I need ?
[11:56] <mooky> i386
[11:56] <Pierric1> CromagDk >I guess so
[11:56] <CromagDK> Pierric1: dont guess :)
[11:56] <Genscher> hey yeah
[11:56] <Pierric1> hehe ok
[11:56] <Pierric1> sorry
[11:56] <Genscher> Pierric1: no they are not
[11:56] <Pierric1> I'm trying the i386
[11:56] <Genscher> Pierric1: intel core duo are 32 bit
[11:56] <Pierric1> aaaaaaah
[11:56] <Pierric1> thanks
[11:57] <oskude> NineTeen67Comet: "all" error messages go to /var/etc/ (but dunno which file gets the shutdown errors...)
[11:57] <Pierric1> very sorry hum
[11:57] <Genscher> Pierric1: np :)
[11:58] <Pierric1> I'm waiting for the booting kernel ... it seems blocked
[11:58] <Genscher> 32bit?
[11:58] <mooky> blocked ??
[11:59] <mooky> can you be a bit more descriptive
[11:59] <CromagDK> -v
[11:59] <Pierric1> it also says : can't access tty: job control turned off
[11:59] <Pierric1> "/bin/sh: it also says : can't access tty: job control turned off"
[12:00] <Genscher> hm, did you install ubuntu or using a live cd?
[12:00] <Pierric1> I download : http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso, isn't correct ?
[12:01] <Genscher> no, that's the 64 bit version....
[12:01] <mooky> 64bit
[12:01] <Pierric1> heuu : i386 sorry
[12:01] <fasdfasdf> !tomcat
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Pierric1> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386
[12:01] <fasdfasdf> !jakarta
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jakarta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Genscher> sounds better
[12:01] <Pierric1> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386 is not the live cd ?
[12:01] <Genscher> using as cd or inside vmware or something?
[12:01] <Genscher> Pierric1: should be correct
[12:02] <oskude> Pierric1: all *desktop* images are "livecd"s
[12:02] <Pierric1> yes
[12:02] <Pierric1> That's the first time I encourage some problems
[12:02] <Genscher> problems oculd appear maybe when installing ubuntu and then switching to core 2 duo..but never tested
[12:03] <Pierric1> yeah
[12:03] <Genscher> but livecd shouldn work
[12:03] <Genscher> weird  thing.
[12:03] <Genscher> sounds like a bug
[12:03] <Pierric1> maybe
[12:03] <Pierric1> dont know
[12:04] <Genscher> me either...only have amd.
[12:04] <Pierric1> I can try to boot with le livecd of Gentoo to test
[12:04] <kaolti> can anybody help me set up internet connection sharing?
[12:04] <Genscher> yes
[12:04] <CorpseFeeder> before I try ndiswrapper instead, can anyone tell me... are the instructions for installing this card in ubuntu here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rt61 just plain wrong? Is that why it doesn't work for me? And has anyone had experience using ndiswrapper with the dlink dwl-g510 card successfully?
[12:04] <Genscher> @ Pierric1: would be nice test
[12:04] <Pierric1> Ok I come back so after this test
[12:04] <Genscher> CorpseFeeder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:05] <Genscher> cu
[12:05] <oskude> CorpseFeeder: just a quess, is the chip version the same as in the tutorial ? (as the manufacturers like to change chips even in same product:/)
[12:05] <kaolti> can anybody help me set up internet connection sharing?
[12:06] <zm0> kaolti, what's the problem? are you configuring your ubuntu box as a router?
[12:06] <oskude> kaolti: got 2 network cards ? (or does that work with one nic?)
[12:07] <kaolti> heres the setup:
[12:07] <CorpseFeeder> well, i can't see the chip cos it has that big metal plate soldered over the card with a logo on it.. but the hardware version on PCB is C2
[12:07] <kaolti> i have a box with ubuntu connected to internet with eth1 and connected to a winxp box with eth0
[12:07] <kaolti> firestarter running on ubuntu
[12:07] <kaolti> set up correctly
[12:07] <zm0> kaolti, did you enable ip forwarding on the ubuntu box?
[12:08] <kaolti> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward?
[12:08] <oskude> kaolti: isnt firestarter just a personal firewall ? (hasnt anything to do with routing)
[12:08] <zm0> kaolti: yes
[12:08] <s1mp-le_m4n> sharing printer on dapper to xp home network...?
[12:08] <kaolti> oskude: it can also share internet connections
[12:08] <CorpseFeeder> The tutorial says it's for version REv C of the card, and mine is C2 so I figure it can't be that different can it?
[12:08] <oskude> kaolti: ok...
[12:08] <kaolti> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward doesnt work when i open ip_forward its still empty
[12:09] <Grok_> i have ubuntu 6.06 installed on this laptop and connecting to the inet with a realtek wireless card. i just installed ubuntu on an older laptop using the alt. cd (128mb ram) and it will load the drivers for this same card but will not get an ip addy from the router. i'm using the same interfaces file. any suggestions?
[12:09] <AbortD> how do i accept a send in xchat?
[12:09] <oskude> CorpseFeeder: well, if it wasnt different, then there wouldnt be another revision ?
[12:09] <zm0> kaolti: what does 'cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' return (run from a root shell sudo -s)
[12:09] <anxt> ok i have all these dependencies
[12:10] <anxt> how do i install mythtv
[12:10] <anxt> i don't have qmake
[12:10] <anxt> so i can't compile it
[12:10] <oskude> !mythv
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mythv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <kaolti> zm0: it says 1
[12:10] <oskude> !mythtv
[12:10] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[12:10] <anxt>  mythtv-backend: Depends: libmyth-0.18.1c2a but it is not going to be installed
[12:10] <anxt>                   Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.5) but it is not installable
[12:11] <zm0> kaolti: so it's enabled, that's good
[12:11] <zm0> kaolti: from the xp machine you can ping the ubuntu box?
[12:11] <kaolti> zm0: yes
[12:11] <CorpseFeeder> I have the same C2 version card in a windows machine. I will go boot that up and see if that tells me the chipset.
[12:11] <kaolti> zm0: and vice versa :)
[12:11] <anxt> i woulda used gentoo i thot i could get all binaries
[12:11] <zm0> kaolti: can you ping an ip on internet try 64.233.183.147 (google)
[12:12] <kaolti> zm0: not from the winxp box
[12:13] <zm0> kaolti: if you traceroute from the xp box where does it stop?
[12:14] <ucordes> !botsnack
[12:14] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:14] <ucordes> feed the kids
[12:14] <linopil> !bot
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[12:14] <RogerRabb> how can check what speed my network card connected to my switch at? eg 100mbit, 1gbps etc ?
[12:15] <zm0> RogerRabb: mii-tool ethX
[12:15] <Hoxzer_> aargh I just hate TS"
[12:15] <Hoxzer_> why cannot they make it to use alsa
[12:15] <fasdfasdf> where is the JDK directory for sun-java5-jdk?
[12:16] <kaolti> zm0: tracert google.com doesnt even start, tracert to ubuntu doesnt start.but ping ubuntu works
[12:16] <fasdfasdf> i need it for tomcat
[12:16] <RogerRabb> zm0 SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not permitted
[12:16] <Pierric1> OK mooky, when I boot on Gentoo Minimal CD, it says : the root block device is unspecified or not detected
[12:16] <zm0> kaolti: on the xp box try to ping google by ip not by name, maybe it's a dns issue
[12:16] <krisg> how can i install ubuntu CD desktop on a commandline dualboot with windows xp? my computer loads slow when ready on CD + Gnome
[12:16] <Pierric1> so maybe the hard disck problem
[12:16] <zm0> RogerRabb: sudo mii-tool
[12:17] <RogerRabb> no MII interfaces found
[12:17] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. when I put the version C2 card in a windows machine, it tells me that it is a Rev C card with RT61 chipset, so it must be the one they say will work in ubuntu on that page I was looking at... but it doesn't :(
[12:17] <zm0> RogerRabb: sudo mii-tool ethYourInterface
[12:18] <RogerRabb> yes.. I get SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported
[12:18] <RogerRabb> for that
[12:18] <linopil> !dualboot
[12:18] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:19] <CorpseFeeder> i think the setup instructions on that page are just wrong. Tomorrow I am going to have a go at using ndiswrapper instead.
[12:19] <krisg> thnx for the link
[12:19] <kaolti> zm0: YES ping to ip works.now how do i fix the dns problem?
[12:19] <linopil> !superblock
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about superblock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <Grok_> i have ubuntu 6.06 installed on this laptop and connecting to the inet with a realtek wireless card. i just installed ubuntu on an older laptop using the alt. cd (128mb ram) and it will load the drivers for this same card but will not get an ip addy from the router. iwconfig does show it's seeing the router though. i'm using the same interfaces file. any suggestions?
[12:19] <kaolti> zm0: shouuld i set the dns server on xp to the ubuntu box?
[12:20] <zm0> kaolti: cat /etc/resolv.conf on your ubuntu box and put those dns server(s) in xp
[12:23] <RogerRabb> any idea about that error zm0?
[12:24] <anxt> ok how the fuck do i install apache
[12:24] <kaolti> zm0: THANKS A LOT. it works.
[12:24] <zm0> kaolti: yw :-)
[12:24] <anxt> i thought i would try this ubuntu
[12:24] <anxt> it is like rpm hell
[12:25] <anxt> i have been using linux for 9 years
[12:25] <anxt> and this is pissing me off
[12:25] <zm0> RogerRabb: no, how many interfaces do you have?
[12:25] <anxt> can i get a wmake anyway?
[12:25] <anxt> qmake?
[12:26] <kaolti> zm0: i have a question though.lets say i download something on the ubuntu and on the xp too.if i would dl separatly both would have the speed of 60kb/s, this way it will be 30/30 or the ubuntu has priority?
[12:28] <misieq> !gnome
[12:28] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:28] <misieq> is gnome 2.16 already available to dapper x86?
[12:28] <zm0> kaolti: the ubuntu box does not have priority, you could install squid as a proxy server and use delay pools to limit bandwith usage
[12:28] <anxt> anyone suggest how the fuck i install myth?
[12:28] <kaolti> zm0: i see.last question: if i restart ubuntu will it still work?
[12:28] <anxt> try a binary distro
[12:28] <mooky> I suggest you mind your langauge
[12:28] <kaolti> zm0: ip_forward stays 1 right?
[12:28] <AlexC> Hey
[12:29] <anxt> mooky: thanks dad
[12:29] <zm0> kaolti: did you manually echo 1 > ip_forward?
[12:29] <AlexC> Not really a Ubuntu question - But is it possible to Sell Open Source Software? If so under what License?
[12:29] <kaolti> zm0: +i still cant understand why i can see the "1" with cat and cant see it with gedit
[12:29] <dsas> misieq: Unless someone does a backport gnome 2.16 won't be coming to dapper
[12:29] <mooky> I don't need to hear that sort of language, more so for no reason
[12:29] <kaolti> zm0: yes manually
[12:29] <anxt> mooky: you prolly wont for a time freom me
[12:29] <AlexC> Cos I have created an Open Source CMS, I've put 4-5 months of solid hard work into it, It would be nice to get something from it other than a pat on the back =)
[12:29] <dsas> AlexC: Yes, under nearly all free licences probably (and at least all licences that debian blesses)
[12:29] <RogerRabb> zm0 just eth0 and loopback
[12:29] <anxt> mooky: do you have an answer?
[12:30] <tanek> Hi, when i apt-get update i get Ign: before some repos. How do i get it to not ign(ignore i assume) them? Thx
[12:30] <dsas> AlexC: What license did you use?
[12:30] <mooky> use the debian packages
[12:30] <mooky> is the answer
[12:30] <anxt> this is more hooped than debian
[12:30] <dsas> AlexC: And beware that my advice is not lawyer advice :)
[12:30] <AlexC> dsas, well at the moment it's under GPL - hehe yeh I know
[12:30] <mooky> myth doesn't appear to be knocking around for ubuntu
[12:30] <RogerRabb> is there a guide on network performance for ubuntu - trying to get better speeds from my gigabit
[12:30] <zm0> kaolti: i'll have a look where you can put it to make it permanent...
[12:30] <mooky> I moved my mythbox to fc5 due to lack of pakcaging
[12:30] <mooky> packaging
[12:30] <AlexC> dsas, I just can't see how something can be OpenSource and sold.....they sort of contradict themselves I think
[12:30] <anxt> mooky: can you suggest sources.list additions?
[12:30] <kaolti> zm0: ok thanks
[12:31] <dsas> AlexC: Yeah you can sell your program under your GPL, you must either accompany it with the source, or with an offer to give the source at a later date.
[12:31] <zm0> RogerRabb: so 'sudo mii-tool eth0' returns the operation not permitted error
[12:31] <mooky> anxt not of the top of my head, if you search for them in debian and debian-amd64 repo's they are there
[12:31] <redloff> Hi, how can I map remote lpt port to my local /dev/lp0 device? (I need it for HASP hardware key)
[12:31] <mooky> there is also a good source deb that you can use to rebuild for ubnutu
[12:31] <mooky> ubuntu
[12:31] <misieq> dsas: there was this little app/script konstruct-like the was sth like garnome, can i use it to build 2.16 from source on dapper?
[12:31] <AlexC> dsas, well the source would _have_ to go with it, it's all PHP/HTML
[12:31] <anxt> mooky: i am safe to add debain repos to sources.luist?
[12:31] <RogerRabb> nope, it returns a not supported error..
[12:31] <RogerRabb>  sudo mii-tool eth0
[12:31] <RogerRabb> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported
[12:31] <mooky> I wouldn't say "safe"
[12:31] <mooky> I'd get the source deb
[12:31] <mooky> and rebuild
[12:31] <dsas> AlexC: You're cool on that then, see also http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney
[12:31] <mooky> personally
[12:32] <dsas> misieq: Yeah you should be able to build it from source, I've not tried personally though.
[12:32] <anxt> rebuild == upgrade?
[12:32] <anxt> i was trying to avoid complining
[12:32] <mooky> no, rebuild the package
[12:32] <AlexC> dsas, But, I thought the GPL ment that anyone can Freely ( speach adn beer ) edit the source code and re-distrubte it - so does that mean if someone Buys my CMS - They can Legaly give it to others?
[12:32] <anxt> ok
[12:32] <zm0> RogerRabb: i can't help you i guess it's not supported :-) what type of network card is it?
[12:32] <dsas> AlexC: yes
[12:32] <mooky> thre is no pre-built package
[12:32] <anxt> maybe i will gentoo afterall
[12:33] <mooky> so you can either force debian, or rebuild for ubuntu
[12:33] <mooky> the source deb does build for ubuntu
[12:33] <RogerRabb> zm0 an on board nforce 4 gigabit nic
[12:33] <klerfayt> can I have 1280x800 bootsplash?
[12:33] <anxt> build as in compile?
[12:33] <mooky> yes, but not "make; make install" build as in build into an ubuntu package
[12:34] <zm0> kaolti: found it: in /etc/sysctl.conf you can uncomment #net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[12:35] <anxt> mooky: so i got an xubuntu installed, i can ficks it or should i install debian
[12:35] <kaolti> zm0:done.thanks again
[12:35] <RogerRabb> zm0 okay.. do you know where I can configure the various features of the network card - jumbo packets etc?
[12:36] <mooky> anxt you can either force the debian p-ackage to install - or rebuild the package from the source deb to make an ubuntu deb
[12:37] <anxt> wow this was so blindingly easy
[12:37] <anxt> onw i am lost
[12:37] <anxt> apte-get compile ?
[12:37] <mooky> no - check the wiki for how to build source .debs
[12:37] <anxt> ok
[12:37] <anxt> actually i am done
[12:38] <anxt> gentoo time
[12:38] <anxt> at least i know how to use it
[12:38] <zm0> RogerRabb: i have no experience with setting options for the nvnet driver
[12:40] <RogerRabb> there isn't some standard palce to set eth settings - like jumbo frames
[12:40] <scheuri> hi all
[12:40] <scheuri> !tell scheuri about backports
[12:41] <zm0> RogerRabb: yes you can put them in /etc/modprobe.d/<yourdrivername>
[12:41] <zm0> RogerRabb: but the options are driver specific...are you using the nvnet driver? lsmod |grep nvnet
[12:42] <tobs> hi
[12:43] <sam-sarnie> Hello.  I'm having probelms with DVD's and css.  My DVD won't playback (in any player).  I have installed libdvdread and libdvdcss2 and am still having probelms.  Can anyone help?
[12:43] <CorpseFeeder> quick question? how do I save a text file wihle in vi and how do I quit vi?
[12:43] <RogerRabb> nope not using the nvnet driver zm0
[12:43] <CromagDK> :r
[12:43] <CromagDK> doh
[12:43] <CromagDK> :w
[12:43] <CromagDK> and :q
[12:43] <CromagDK> for vi
[12:43] <Raging_Hog> you can also do :wq
[12:44] <CromagDK> and :wq!
[12:44] <CromagDK> this is NOT in edit mode
[12:44] <Raging_Hog> yes, you have to press ESC first
[12:45] <CromagDK> i use another editor wich i find easier but i belive its up to ppl
[12:45] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. i got it sorted
[12:45] <CromagDK> good
[12:45] <scheuri> question concerning backports: If I have the line in sources.list does my searches and install automatically use the newest (which probably is in backports) or do I need to do something special for this?
[12:45] <shut-> :( 15mins and i go back to school :P
[12:46] <RogerRabb> zm0 looks like I'm using the default forcedeth driver
[12:46] <CromagDK> scheuri: if its in the backports then its quite right
[12:46] <CromagDK> if you have made the apt-get update
[12:46] <CromagDK> but overall: yes
[12:46] <scheuri> CromagDK: okay...thanks...so it is not quite obvious for me if I make an aptitude update where it actually comes from...normal repos or backports, right?
[12:46] <sam-sarnie> join #tovid
[12:47] <CromagDK> yes
[12:47] <scheuri> CromagDK: thanks...
[12:47] <CromagDK> np
[12:47] <scheuri> so it seems samba 3.0.23a is NOT yet packaged...
[12:48] <sam-sarnie> Hello.  I'm having probelms with DVD's and css.  My DVD won't playback (in any player).  I have installed libdvdread and libdvdcss2 and am still having probelms.  Can anyone help?  Please!  I'm failry new to ubuntu.
[12:48] <zm0> RogerRabb: check this out http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.0-0310/ReleaseNotes.html you can put options like force_speed_duplex=4 for 100Mbps/Full
[12:48] <RogerRabb> on gigabit, not 100mbit ;)
[12:48] <RogerRabb> I'm getting aroun 12MB/s when grabbing stuff from a windows box on the network
[12:48] <zm0> RogerRabb: just an example...
[12:49] <zm0> RogerRabb: 9 = gigabit full duplex
[12:49] <RogerRabb> excellent
[12:50] <carp3> Hi, I have Installed Fedora but now i have only Windows and Feodra on GRUB ! Where is UBUNTU ? :(
[12:51] <RogerRabb> hmm doesn't mention setting up jumbo frames
[12:52] <RogerRabb> oh mtu.. duh
[12:52] <RogerRabb> cheers zm0.. Anyway I can install that without rebooting?
[12:53] <RogerRabb> I absolutely loathe rebooting for anything
[12:53] <rem__> .
[12:54] <zm0> RogerRabb: stop networking: /etc/init.d/networking stop then rmmod forcedeth and modprobe forcedeth <your_options)
[12:54] <zm0> RogerRabb:...and start networking again /etc/init.d/networking start
[12:56] <RogerRabb> k, cool
[12:56] <RogerRabb> modprobe forcedeth? I thought I need to replace with nvnet
[12:58] <RogerRabb> oh sudo ethtool eth0 gives me my speed..
[12:58] <zm0> RogerRabb: there is no nvnet in your ubuntu kernel
[12:58] <Hoxzer_> AAREGSh /me lost his mind with ts2(+multipleSounds)
[12:59] <RogerRabb> right.. so need to instal it?
[12:59] <zm0> RogerRabb: no just use your forcedeth with the options
[01:00] <andy_> how do i copy files into \?
[01:00] <zm0> RogerRabb: :-) ethtool...forgot about that one!
[01:00] <lodder_> question i want to install mailscanner but i see it's a very old version is there for ubuntu not a newer version ?
[01:01] <andy_> how do i copy files into \?
[01:01] <scheuri> is there a \?
[01:02] <RogerRabb> okay, how can I pass the mtu as an option in forcedeth - I go from the nvnet guide you pasted?
[01:02] <andy_> \ meaning the System folder thing
[01:02] <cope_oz> andy_ try sudo cp <file> \.
[01:02] <fiveiron> will gnome 2.16 be added to repositories for dapper?
[01:02] <andy_> \ = FileSystem
[01:02] <fiveiron> or will that be an edgy thing?
[01:02] <scheuri> that would be / ;)
[01:02] <andy_> oh sorry
[01:02] <andy_> scheuri, how do i copy files into there?
[01:02] <scheuri> no worries...:)
[01:02] <cope_oz> andy_, i just told u
[01:02] <andy_> cope_oz, where?
[01:02] <scheuri> andy_: do you use CLI (command line interface) or a GUI (graphical user interface such as Gnome, KDE, etc.)
[01:03] <cope_oz> andy_, sudo cp a.txt /.
[01:03] <fasdfasdf> where does sun-java-jdk install?
[01:03] <fasdfasdf> i need the directory for tomcat
[01:03] <cope_oz> fasdfasdf, type whereis java
[01:04] <fasdfasdf> cope_oz: tried it
[01:04] <andy_> cope_oz, sudo cp FolderName /            ------ will that work?
[01:04] <cope_oz> fasdfasdf, it'll give you the working dirs of java
[01:04] <cope_oz> andy_, you need to specify a file
[01:04] <fasdfasdf> cope_oz: but none of that is the right one
[01:04] <andy_> cope_oz, what if its folders
[01:04] <cope_oz> fasdfasdf, ?? they have to be, it'll show every instance of java
[01:04] <drewfus> is there any way to uses the itunes store on ubuntu dapper?
[01:04] <scheuri> andy_: "cp" is the right command...but if you want to copy a folder you need to add parameters to that command
[01:04] <cope_oz> andy_, type cp --help
[01:04] <Laibsch> Hi, I wanted to restart exim.  It fails because port 25 is taken by another program.  "telnet localhost 25" greets me with the following message "220 MyComp ESMTP Exim 4.60 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:01:47 +0200".  dpkg -l and apt-cache search did not reveal the culprit.  Package esmtp is not installed.
[01:05] <fasdfasdf> cope_oz: ill check for typos
[01:05] <SmokeyD> I all, is it possible to tell apt manually that some dependency has already been fulfilled. I installed a program from source (compiled it myself) and want to install other software through apt that depends on this software.
[01:05] <SmokeyD> I=Hi
[01:05] <zm0> RogerRabb: just try the options in the release notes: modprobe forcedeth force_speed_duplex=9 mtu=bla
[01:05] <RogerRabb> have a look at banshee drewfus - mimmicks itunes features and such.. amarok is similiar but much more powerful.. I'm not sure but you may be able to get itunes running on wine
[01:05] <RogerRabb> thanks zm0, appreciate it :)
[01:05] <zm0> RogerRabb: np :-)
[01:06] <andy_> cope_oz, still need help
[01:06] <fasdfasdf> cope_oz: no typos,tomcat tells me that the directory should point to jdk not jre
[01:06] <scheuri> fasdfasdf: you have the jdk actually installed?
[01:06] <fasdfasdf> scheuri: of course
[01:06] <motin_> hi, all - searching for a program that will control excactly what programs are allowed network access, capping of their bandwidth on individual level and also displaying a good overview of network usage. trying to limit my mobile internet costs... do you have any advice on the matter? google doesnt really show too much..
[01:06] <cope_oz> andy_, type cp --help, that'll give you a list of parameters, i'm not going to write it for you, come back with a question
[01:07] <fasdfasdf> scheuri: sun-java5-jdk
[01:07] <scheuri> fasdfasdf: sorry, just asking to make sure...
[01:07] <fasdfasdf> scheuri: no problem :)
[01:07] <cope_oz> fasdfasdf, uhmmm.. give me a sec, pm me i'll find it for you
[01:07] <fasdfasdf> cope_oz: thank you!
[01:08] <zm0> Laibsch: sudo netstat -pat to look wich process is listening on port 25
[01:12] <reiki> can't seem to figure out how to traceroute in Ubuntu. I keep getting command not found
[01:12] <kaolti> where can i get gcc?
[01:12] <cope_oz> kaolti, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[01:12] <zm0> reiki: sudo apt-get install traceroute
[01:12] <reiki> kaolti, apt-get install build-essentials
[01:13] <kaolti> :) thanks
[01:13] <zm0> kaolti: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:13] <zm0> :-)
[01:13] <scheuri> reiki: aptitude install traceroute
[01:13] <scheuri> dont use apt-get...use aptitude...
[01:13] <reiki> hmmm.... ok.... I thought that was such a standard tool it would be there by default.... oops
[01:13] <Laibsch> zm0: Thanks.  I did as you suggested.  I grepped for 25 but did not find any listening connection.  telnet to localhost 25 works fine.
[01:14] <treedreamer> what does the message " there are differences between boot section and its back up " mean ? the message showed up when the system was booting up
[01:14] <cope_oz> treedreamer, not sure, but it might mean your boot record has changed???
[01:14] <rambo3> reiki doesnt traceroute come with network tools system menu in ubuntu
[01:15] <kaolti> rambo3: it does
[01:15] <zm0> Laibsch: grep for 'smtp' or netstat -patn
[01:15] <scheuri> rambo3: its actually a stand alone packet...at least you can install it by "aptitude install traceroute"
[01:16] <rambo3> that wasnt the wuestion scheuri
[01:16] <treedreamer> cope_oz:it occurs many times ,thought it affect nothing
[01:16] <scheuri> rambo3: sorry...
[01:17] <treedreamer> cope_oz:i just want to know if i should do something about it or just ignore
[01:17] <cope_oz> treedreamer, uhmm strange, no idea man... best ask it on the forums, one of the more experienced nix geeks would know
[01:17] <treedreamer> cope_oz:oh ,thanks anyway
[01:17] <cope_oz> treedreamer, it could be a security warning, or it could be a system check.. i have no idea.. whats google say?
[01:18] <treedreamer> cope_oz:i googled it someday ago ,but found  nothings really helpful
[01:19] <caci> treedreamer: it's on a vfat partition?
[01:19] <reiki> you guys will love this.... I have a Microsoft IP address trying to gain admin access on my message boards. :)
[01:19] <treedreamer> cope_oz:yes
[01:19] <treedreamer> cope_oz:what is dosfsck?
[01:20] <treedreamer> cope_oz: a dos filesystem check:
[01:20] <treedreamer> ??
[01:20] <nataraj_> hi friends. i have some problem when ubuntu checks the other filesystems, while booting
[01:20] <cope_oz> treedreamer, type man dosfsck
[01:21] <treedreamer> cope_oz:ok
[01:21] <burhan> nataraj_: problem like what?
[01:21] <nataraj_> i don't know what's causing it. i think it's the fedora installation i have on another partition
[01:21] <cope_oz> brb
[01:22] <nataraj_> it says, the copy in the boot sector is diff. or something like that
[01:22] <nataraj_> i tried changing fstab in fedora, but that didn't work
[01:23] <burhan> nataraj_: what is the exact error?
[01:24] <Jell-O-Fishi> hi. anybody know the name of the package or where i can download the source of the ubuntu installer ?
[01:24] <massive222> zm0: are you back
[01:24] <massive222> zm0: can you help me with the vty? is it possible that i have to install something to be able to use that
[01:25] <nataraj_> when it boots, it checks the filesystems and prints some hex values and says there is a diff btwn. the boot sector and it's backup
[01:26] <wthww> hello all
[01:26] <brianski> why does ubuntu have devel versions of nano?
[01:27] <brianski> they break more than one feature for me :(
[01:27] <RogerRabb> umm would someone know how I could with regex search for all occurances of "< unknown length of text here >" and remove it from a file?
[01:28] <nataraj_> yeah and it also says there is an error in the checksum for 2 files, 1 & 8.html..  and says there's something wrong with the filenames
[01:28] <nataraj_> i am sorry burhan i don't know what's happening
[01:28] <AlexC> RogerRabb, I only know the PHP Syntax, but it would be somethign like this: preg_replace( "/<[A-Za-z0-9] +>] \", "", $text );
[01:29] <AlexC> woops /<[A-Za-z0-9] +>] /
[01:29] <Farrier> My connection is pretty awful, and wget is dying when it tries to reconnect: "Data connection: Connection timed out; Segmentation fault"
[01:29] <massive222> anyone knows anything about vty
[01:29] <AlexC> RogerRabb, Woops - I mean this: /<[A-Za-z0-9] +>/
[01:30] <daan> hi
[01:30] <Farrier> AlexC: You program like I do: by iterative improvement :)
[01:30] <RogerRabb> oh so the + means unknown length?
[01:30] <AlexC> Farrier, =) RogerRabb Yers
[01:31] <Dimensions> hi what is the disconnect script for wvdial
[01:31] <npster> I didn't know that ubuntu is so THE SAME like debian. It is just the gnome theme that is changed !!!
[01:31] <treedreamer> just now i tried "sudo dosfsck /dev/hda1 " and got a message : " sudo dosfsck /dev/hda1
[01:31] <treedreamer> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[01:31] <treedreamer> There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
[01:31] <treedreamer> Differences: (offset:original/backup)
[01:32] <RogerRabb> AlexC how about umm other characters such as - " " ' ' ( ) ! @ # $ % ^ & *  _ =?
[01:32] <treedreamer> it asks me to " Copy original to backup
[01:32] <treedreamer> 2) Copy backup to original
[01:32] <treedreamer> 3) No action
[01:32] <treedreamer> "
[01:32] <treedreamer> what should i do ?
[01:32] <treedreamer> any idea??
[01:32] <PathagenX> ignore it
[01:32] <PathagenX> I have the same problem
[01:33] <PathagenX> try fsck.vfat /dev/disk
[01:33] <PathagenX> try fsck.vfat -a /dev/disk
[01:33] <PathagenX> gotta remember the -a
[01:33] <PathagenX> and unmount it first
[01:33] <treedreamer> PathagenX:what are these messages mean?
[01:33] <nataraj_> treedreamer: while booting does it take a lot of time while checking the other filesystems on your disk?
[01:34] <treedreamer> nataraj_: yes
[01:34] <Jell-O-Fishi> answering my own question : ubiquity
[01:34] <nataraj_> Ah.. then we be 2 victims of maybe the same problem
[01:34] <gnomefreak> nataraj_: treedreamer is acpi enabled?
[01:34] <treedreamer> nataraj_: i once searched the web but found nothing helpful
[01:34] <nataraj_> yes acpi is enabled
[01:35] <PathagenX> treedreamer: unmount the disk
[01:35] <treedreamer> gnomefreak: sorry i am new to linux  ,but what is acpi?
[01:35] <treedreamer> PathagenX:then??
[01:35] <PathagenX> treedreamer: then run sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/hda
[01:36] <Dimensions> hi what is the disconnection script for wvdial ?
[01:36] <Farrier> Question: My connection is pretty awful, and wget is dying when it tries to reconnect: "Data connection: Connection timed out; Segmentation fault" - any ideas how I can prevent this crash?
[01:36] <treedreamer> PathagenX: unmount it and run sudo fsck .vfat -a /dev/hda?
[01:36] <AlexC> RogerRabb, It would probably be better to do this then           /"<[^] +>/"
[01:36] <PathagenX> acpi is like apm but newer. It is a way for hardware and software to control the power usage of your computer.
[01:36] <nataraj_> while checking the filesystems, it suddenly leaves the gui and i think prints the memory locations where the boot sector and it's backup are diff.
[01:36] <treedreamer> PathagenX: ok
[01:36] <PathagenX> treedreamer: sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/hda
[01:37] <AlexC> RogerRabb, the ^ means anything that is NOT this - for example /"<[^A-Z] +>/" would find anything that isn't A-Z
[01:37] <AlexC> RogerRabb, so I think [^]  would select everything ... Im not regex expet though
[01:37] <treedreamer> PathagenX: acpi is short for what?
[01:37] <linuxd00d> hi guys
[01:37] <AlexC> s/expet/expert
[01:37] <RogerRabb> hmm cool.. I'll give it a shot AlexC thanks
[01:37] <PathagenX> i unno.. Advanced Control Power Interface?
[01:37] <vincenz> Hello
[01:37] <gnomefreak> PathagenX: -? yes that is right
[01:37] <Ramunas> !ati
[01:38] <AlexC> treedreamer, Another Cold Pie Icecream ?
[01:38] <PathagenX> Advanced Configuration and Power Interface specification
[01:38] <yacek19> hi
[01:38] <Laibsch> zm0: Thanks for helping.  Looks like I was experiencing https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/exim4/+bug/48045 exim will not stop on dapper if told to.
[01:38] <Farrier> RogerRabb: if you want everything, use "/<.+>/" - but you do NOT want everything, you want "/<[^>] +>/"
[01:38] <nataraj_> AlexC: it's not acpi?
[01:38] <yacek19> how to check list of installed packages?
[01:39] <Laibsch> yacek19: sudo dpkg -l |grep ii
[01:39] <PathagenX> no. ACPI problems are more annoying
[01:39] <gnomefreak> yacek19: dpkg -l
[01:39] <yacek19> thanks
[01:39] <AlexC> nataraj_, huh?
[01:39] <treedreamer> PathagenX: thanks very much
[01:39] <Farrier> RogerRabb: or "/<[^>] *>/" if you also want to match the empty "<>"
[01:39] <PathagenX> np :}
[01:40] <massive222> zm0: please continue helping
[01:40] <nataraj_> AlexC: forget it. just tried to joke. :'( hehe
[01:40] <massive222> Does anyone knows anything about vmware tools
[01:40] <Farrier> Another way to write it is with a minimal match: "/<.*?>/" :)
[01:40] <Ramunas> where can I find some info on installing ati drivers?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> !ati > Ramunas
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Ramunas: in your pm from ubotu
[01:41] <jreidelbach> can someone please give me the apt-get line to install gnucash?
[01:41] <PathagenX> Farrier? Ex Furc Farrier?
[01:41] <vincenz> I've been wanting to secure my pc and get it better configured, by having encryption on my documents, fetchmail instead of thunderbird for fetching mail, and other stuff.  The problem is that I'm not very able with any of tehse so I thought perhaps I should try experimenting with this setup on a virtual machine, any thoughts
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Ramunas: it might be a bit before you get it
[01:41] <Ramunas> gnomefreak: thanks
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Ramunas: yw
[01:41] <Farrier> PathagenX... damn, you found me :)
[01:41] <finalbeta> Hmm, I'm using the new gnome menu from Novel. This time it didn't load. I restart X, then I get the noticfication the panel is already started. And now I've got no panels at all :/
[01:41] <marlun> When I install apps with apt-get will it know when there are upgrade available or is that only a synaptic feature?
[01:42] <kaolti> i have a lot of blocked connections showing in firestarter.i suppose does are ppl scanning for vulnerabile machines.am i right?
[01:42] <huerta> ola
[01:42] <PathagenX> I have been hunting you, over hill and dale. I have tramped many a jungle but finally I meet you face to face and tell you what it is that I have quested till now to do so... "You always looked horrible in red."
[01:43] <Hagbarddenstore> How do I switch user by using sudo ?
[01:43] <Lysit> is security.ubuntu.com down?
[01:43] <finalbeta> kaolti, not nessesairely. Could be any connection to your IP.
[01:43] <Farrier> PathagenX: Dang! And I just dyed my beard, and bought myself a new red dress, too :)
[01:44] <PathagenX> I's a small internet. o.o
[01:44] <archangelpetro> :D how are you today mr PathagenX? :) well i hope
[01:44] <PathagenX> I am good arch. and you?
[01:44] <RogerRabb> thanks Farrier. I don't suppose you could link me to a top guide on regex - I've been meaning to get a greater understanding of it for a long time?
[01:44] <archangelpetro> very well :D
[01:44] <kaolti> finalbeta: yes well i have a few from irc,gaim,but most of them are ips from different countries trying ports like 53664,6690,1026
[01:44] <leonard> is there anyone who could perhaps be able to help me with mounting my sata hard drives, im having much trouble
[01:45] <kaolti> *56690
[01:45] <PathagenX> I love the *ubuntu community and I love being able to share my meager experience with problem thwumping.
[01:45] <Farrier> RogerRabb: I learned all I know from the perl camel book, but that's probably not a great place to start I'm afraid, unless you want to learm perl too!
[01:45] <leonard> hehe
[01:45] <leonard> yer i just started usin it like last week
[01:45] <Hagbarddenstore> Any one knowing on howto switch user by sudo ?
[01:45] <x1nto> guys can somebody explain me ident2 ? :/
[01:46] <Farrier> Question: Since my wget keeps dying with segfault, I am trying "while [ 1 ] ;do wget -c -T 10 -i apt_get_list -t 0; sleep 1;done" - however, I would prefer to cure the segfault, if anyone has any clue why it might be happenning?
[01:46] <x1nto> I need it to connect to a bouncer
[01:46] <PathagenX> sudo adduser <do all that>
[01:46] <dionys> :)
[01:46] <PathagenX> then sudo login
[01:46] <PathagenX> you may not have to sudo the login
[01:46] <treedreamer> PathagenX: can i have a pm with you ?
[01:46] <npster> How do I delete  /usr/lib/RealPlayer
[01:46] <RogerRabb> Farrier haha, well maybe.. After doing c# and such for a few years I've started venturing into python.. so I'll look for regex in python ;)
[01:46] <Hagbarddenstore> PathagenX: Not that... I have the user and all tha... it's something like sudo -r user and something more..
[01:46] <PathagenX> as long as your pants stay on, sure.
[01:47] <PathagenX> try login
[01:47] <nataraj_> shows so many errors when i `sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/hdc1`ed
[01:47] <PathagenX> a nested account is just as good as an unested one. Otherwise, you will see the account on your next login
[01:47] <dionys> Guys, I need to login to a bouncer and I made a .ident in my home dir after I installed ident2 deamon how does it work now ?
[01:48] <treedreamer> PathagenX: after i run fsck.vfat -a /dev/hda  i got the following
[01:48] <PathagenX> ctrl+alt+backspace will drop you back to GDM
[01:48] <Farrier> RogerRabb: Good choice, apparently, though I've not usedPython myself, it seems to get a lot of respect as a good, solid language.
[01:48] <treedreamer> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN, Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 191
[01:48] <npster> How do I delete files from terminal ?
[01:49] <treedreamer>  PathagenX: what does this mean?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> npster: rm file
[01:49] <PathagenX> treedreamer: sudo fsck.vfat /dev/hda1
[01:49] <nataraj_> treedreamer: do fsck.vfat -a /dev/hdc1
[01:49] <PathagenX> yea -a
[01:49] <npster> ok
[01:50] <treedreamer>  PathagenX: still got the same message
[01:50] <nataraj_> PathagenX: u type faster. ;)
[01:50] <PathagenX> oO
[01:50] <PathagenX> that can't be right
[01:50] <PathagenX> sudo fsck -a /dev/hda1
[01:50] <PathagenX> sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/hda1
[01:52] <swuboo> I've run into a rather vexing problem.
[01:52] <PathagenX> wassat?
[01:52] <swuboo> I've got three partitions on my drive.
[01:52] <PathagenX> mhmm
[01:52] <swuboo> The main ubuntu partition, a swap partition, and what was just empty space.
[01:52] <swuboo> I installed XP on the empty space, and of course, it killed grub.
[01:52] <swuboo> So I booted into the liveCD to fix it, right?
[01:53] <PathagenX> mhmm
[01:53] <npster> Does someone know how to play mp3s in Helix.
[01:53] <swuboo> And the linux partition won't even mount.
[01:53] <PathagenX> npster: google ubuntu mp3s
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> PathagenX: what does the -a do in that command.  I didnt see -a in the help list
[01:53] <burhan> !mp3
[01:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <PathagenX> Ubuntu has no support for some restricted formats and mp3s are one of the... Thankyou ubotu
[01:54] <swuboo> If I go to disks and click Enable, nothing happens.
[01:54] <PathagenX> Jack_Sparrow, -a = automatically fix errors
[01:54] <swuboo> If I go into a terminal and type mount /dev/sda1 I get "can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[01:54] <SlackRat> what usually causes choppy or slow frame rates on kaffeine dvd player?
[01:54] <PathagenX> swuboo, reinstall ubuntu
[01:54] <tristan_> hello there
[01:55] <tristan_> IS it possible to run gnome-applets under KDE? And if so, how?
[01:55] <PathagenX> and from now on, always install Windoze first
[01:55] <swuboo> PathagenX:  Last time I installed Ubuntu on the same drive as XP, it killed XP.
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> PathagenX: That is what I would expect but  fsck -h shows -p as automatic repair ?
[01:55] <treedreamer> PathagenX : i got many magic mumbers and a message "not automatically fixing this "
[01:55] <PathagenX> it won't this time
[01:55] <npster> how to convert mp3s to oggs
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> PathagenX: Or is that just a funny font A and not p
[01:55] <swuboo> Installing Windows first wasn't actually an option in this case; I couldn't acquire a copy of XP until school began.
[01:56] <Thunderpants> npster, sudo apt-get install mp32ogg?
[01:56] <PathagenX> Jack_Sparrow, they have ather ways, for compatbilaty, mostly
[01:56] <PathagenX> -y will work too
[01:56] <swuboo> So you're saying a complete reinstall is the only thing to do?
[01:56] <PathagenX> no
[01:56] <PathagenX> I am saying that it is the best advice that I can give
[01:56] <swuboo> Mmm.
[01:56] <swuboo> Well, if it's that drastic, I guess running fdisk first won't hurt anything, eh?
[01:56] <PathagenX> did you google ubuntu grub?
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> PathagenX: thanks
[01:57] <swuboo> Won't really help, as far as I can see.
[01:57] <swuboo> If I can't mount the partition, it's logically impossible for me to alter the grub settings in it.
[01:57] <SlackRat> swuboo , whats wrong atm exactly?
[01:57] <PathagenX> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5552.html
[01:57] <swuboo> That's the problem-- the liveCD refuses to mount my ext3 partition.
[01:57] <PathagenX> swuboo http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5552.html
[01:58] <cwillu> So, do you suppose something's changed such that irc doesn't make my machine hang anymore?
[01:58] <cwillu> seems promising so far...
[01:58] <SlackRat> how is your hdd partitioned and whats on it at present?
[01:58] <swuboo> Three partitions.
[01:58] <PathagenX> on Slackware, I would just boot using the CD and type 'lilo' o.o
[01:58] <swuboo> ext3 with Ubuntu, a swap, and an NTFS partition.
[01:58] <SlackRat> xp on one?
[01:58] <swuboo> Right.
[01:59] <swuboo> Just installed.  That's when the problem hit.
[01:59] <SlackRat> and you are currently booting from grub or the windows mbr?
[01:59] <tc_> can someone please help me with my usb headset
[01:59] <SlackRat> windows will kill a linux install if installed after linux
[01:59] <swuboo> I figured that XP would nuke grub, so I booted into the LiveCD to mount the linux partition and restore grub.
[01:59] <SlackRat> see 'the microsoft virus' heh
[01:59] <swuboo> Windows has the mbr-- but I expected that.
[01:59] <zm0> swuboo: try to manually mount your partition: make a mount point 'mkdir /mnt/sda1' and then 'mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[02:00] <opexoc> Could anybody tell me how can I find my printer URI?
[02:00] <PathagenX> Night all
[02:00] <SlackRat> it may have damaged more than the boot......now that windows is up? install ubuntu again to be safe .....you dont know what else the MS tampered with
[02:01] <SlackRat> then the ubuntu install will take charge of finding and booting windoze
[02:01] <tc_> i got a logitech headset and the mic works as in i can hear what i say on mic from the headset but when i play music etc they still play through my speakers..yes i have selected my headset alsa from properties and i have reboot with usb headset pluged in..i read i need to make the headset dev0 can someone tell me how to do this pls i beg of you :(
[02:01] <SlackRat> no headaches.....or you can try what zm0 recommends before the extreme measure....
[02:01] <swuboo> zm0's suggestion appears to have worked.
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> swuboo: You are in an uphill battle and other problems in the future...  WIndows wants to be the first os on the first partition,, linux dosent really care.  I agree the best advice is to set it all up from the beginning again
[02:02] <swuboo> Urgh.
[02:02] <tc_> i had to format my pc to put windows on it first..
[02:02] <tc_> to much hassle puting windows ontop of linux
[02:02] <cwillu> swuboo: I think you might be able to just reinstall or even just reconfigure grub from synaptic, but I'm not sure
[02:02] <swuboo> The ironic thing is that this is the first time I've had windows in a year; ever since Breezy nuked my old install.
[02:02] <SlackRat> use synaptic to configure grub? pass the bong please
[02:02] <swuboo> I'm hoping to be able to reconfigure grub, particularly now that the drive appears to be successfully mounted.
[02:02] <tc_> lol slackrat...can you help me pls
[02:02] <swuboo> Not with synaptic, though.  I'm not sure how that would work.
[02:03] <zm0> swuboo: now use chroot to install grub: cd to /mnt/sda1 and type 'chroot /mnt/sda1 grub-install'
[02:03] <SlackRat> or if it would :P
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> swuboo: You can try the super grub reapir cd..
[02:03] <tc_> ppl please help me out i have googled all over for usb headset support got nothing?
[02:03] <SlackRat> have you checked the alsamixer settings?
[02:03] <tc_> slackrat yes
[02:04] <tc_> i read i need to make my dve0 which is intel@the mo to my usb
[02:04] <SlackRat> can you get a normal headset working?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> swuboo: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[02:04] <tc_> i dont have normal
[02:04] <zm0> swuboo: that should read: chroot /mnt/sda1 grub-install /dev/sda1
[02:04] <SlackRat> usb is a pita all too often
[02:04] <tc_> jus this usb headset which cost me 70 euro i might add
[02:04] <tc_> is there a file i can jus change the usb dve1 to usb dve 0?
[02:05] <tc_> dev*
[02:05] <swuboo> "/dev/sda1: Not found or not a block device."
[02:05] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know how long a posting on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org will be saved?
[02:05] <tristan_> IS it possible to run gnome-applets under KDE? And if so, how?
[02:06] <swuboo> At least it's mounted, that's a definite step in the right direction.
[02:06] <SlackRat> no experience here with getting a usb headset to work, sorry......keep hacking at it tho, things like that are generally possible albeit annoying
[02:06] <zm0> swuboo: hmmm, try /dev/sda
[02:06] <tc_> kk slackrat
[02:06] <swuboo> Ditto.
[02:06] <tc_> anyone in here got a usb headset working on ubuntu?
[02:06] <swuboo> What about just / instead of /dev/sda?
[02:07] <ChaosFan> swuboo: you need to mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/sda1/dev and mount -t proc nonte /mnt/sda1/proc
[02:07] <tc_> swuboo jus format...makes no sense why u are trying to do what your doing
[02:07] <ChaosFan> then chroot, and type grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[02:07] <ChaosFan> and then grub-install /dev/sda
[02:07] <ChaosFan> uh sorry, typo in first line
[02:07] <tc_> linux runs great ontop of windows
[02:07] <myosotis> hi all
[02:07] <MirrorSpock> hello
[02:07] <tc_> not other way around
[02:08] <ChaosFan> should be mount -t proc none /mnt/sda1/proc
[02:09] <Farrier> "tc_ linux runs great ontop of windows" <- yeah! It tramples windows underfoot! Mwahaha...*cough*
[02:09] <linopil> u mean on vmware?
[02:09] <myosotis> I have a question. Im trying to change locale on my ubuntu server (V 6.06) but I cannot find any help on how to do this anywhere.
[02:10] <swuboo> What arguments should I give chroot, ChaosFan?
[02:10] <swuboo> chroot /dev/sda1/ ?
[02:10] <tc_> Farrier well it works better then other way around...not perfect i guess
[02:10] <ChaosFan> swuboo: chroot /mnt/sda1 /bin/bash
[02:10] <myosotis> The only thing ive seen is that o should do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and these select what locale to use, but i dont get to choose anything.
[02:10] <tc_> anyone in here got a usb headset working on ubuntu?
[02:10] <MirrorSpock> Question: I get "Too many open files in system" when trying to read a mounted share. the Share is from an AIX machine (Fastconnect)
[02:10] <myosotis> these = there
[02:11] <swuboo> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:11] <swuboo> That's on the grep.
[02:11] <ChaosFan> tc_: how often are you going to ask? noone seems to have
[02:11] <tc_> maybe someone will join who has :)
[02:11] <ChaosFan> swuboo: grep shouldn't have anything todo with gethostbyname()
[02:11] <tc_> im sure theres @ least more then 1 person who aint useing stoneage headphones
[02:11] <swuboo> Tell grep that!
[02:12] <KenSentMe> How can i convert multiple avi files at once using ffmpeg?
[02:12] <KenSentMe> Can i write a shell script to do it?
[02:12] <SlackRat> yes, usb is more neolithic age
[02:12] <swuboo> ...wait.
[02:12] <tc_> lol slackrat
[02:12] <Farrier> tc_: I haven't even got my bluetooth-usb-headset working on *windows* let alone linux :(
[02:12] <swuboo> It was because I prepended it with sudo.
[02:12] <tc_> lmao farrier
[02:12] <Tidus> tc_: i still use 'stone age' headphones because usb headsets chew up more cpu time
[02:12] <ChaosFan> swuboo: shouldn't need sudo after chrooting
[02:12] <tc_> see you dont ask the right way
[02:13] <tc_> i got lots of cpu doh
[02:13] <Dimensions> which one is the best image viewer and editor in ubuntu gnome ?
[02:13] <tc_> plus there surround sound n shit
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> gimp
[02:13] <swuboo> ChaosFan:  So I see now.  Wasn't aware of that.
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> or digikam for image management
[02:14] <tc_> is there any ubuntu rooms for audio etc on here?
[02:14] <Tidus> tc_: i also have lots of cpu time
[02:14] <swuboo> I think that might have worked.
[02:14] <t-thing> Hi. Can I stream video and play audio locally with vlc?
[02:14] <ChaosFan> swuboo: does it work? just did it yesterday so i remember the commands ;)
[02:14] <nalpha> anyone using websitebaker??
[02:14] <SlackRat> t-thing, why not?
[02:14] <Tidus> tc_: but i use my stone age headphones because my sound card offloads the sound work from the CPU... very useful when playing a lag-unfriendly game
[02:14] <MirrorSpock> on AIX, how can I tell what filesystem is used?
[02:14] <steppe_> which one is the best image vector editor?with cmyk standart?
[02:14] <tc_> usb is the future of headsets i never used a good set of regular ones sound jus aint up to scratch on gaming
[02:15] <swuboo> Heh.  I don't know whether it *works* yet.
[02:15] <SlackRat> cat /etc/fstab
[02:15] <Tidus> tc_: could just be your soundcard.
[02:15] <Afief> What good OSS 3d games are out there?
[02:15] <swuboo> But it said, "Installation complete.  No errors reported."
[02:15] <Farrier> Never seen a USB port on a soundcard.
[02:15] <ChaosFan> swuboo: that sound good
[02:15] <Tidus> tc_: i got a creative sb live.
[02:15] <ChaosFan> only reason that it might not work now should be that you do not boot from sda ;)
[02:15] <Tidus> Farrier: was referring to his sound quality when using normal headphones
[02:15] <swuboo> It also says that /boot/grub/device.map only has /dev/sda in it.
[02:15] <t-thing> SlackRat: but how?
[02:15] <swuboo> I do, actually.
[02:15] <ChaosFan> might be
[02:16] <swuboo> So device.map shouldn't have partitions, just the drive itself?
[02:16] <ChaosFan> yes
[02:16] <Dimensions> when we install wine and use a windows programme and like visual basics and i make setup programme for it to install it can i run that .exe in ubuntu to install the programme ??
[02:16] <swuboo> Well.  Let's throw the baby off the roof and see if it flies!
[02:16] <mike-digiport-> how can I mount a USB device?
[02:16] <cwillu> Dimensions: you'd have to run the exe with wine as well
[02:16] <Farrier> Tidus: I know, I was referring to tc_'s "USB is the future of headphones" statement and pointing to a minor flaw in his logic.
[02:16] <Tidus> oh lol
[02:17] <tanath> anyone know how to get fglrx working on edgy?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: I doubt it
[02:17] <cwillu> Dimensions: cxoffice at least (wine derivative) sets it up that exe files are launch by it automatically, don't know if vanilla wine does it to
[02:17] <Dimensions> cwillu: isn't it possible that i make the project on MS OS and then some how convert it to linux file system ?
[02:17] <Tidus> Farrier: never seen a portable player support a usb headphone either
[02:17] <Tidus> same with most professional audio equipment
[02:17] <Dimensions> cwillu:  and Jack_Sparrow how abt winehq ?
[02:18] <cwillu> Dimensions: there's a way to compile against the wine libs instead of the linux ones to make a cross platform app, but I'm not experienced in that
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: YEs, there are cross compilers like real basic that can do that.
[02:18] <Dimensions> yeah Jack_Sparrow but that isn't a free ware one has to pay like 400 $ for it
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: the linux version is free.
[02:18] <ChaosFan> that usb headphones discussion for sure is funny ;)
[02:19] <mike-digiport-> how can I mount a USB device
[02:19] <SlackRat> mount /dev/sda....
[02:19] <swuboo> Well hey.  Here I am.
[02:19] <SlackRat> it worked?
[02:19] <swuboo> Yes.
[02:19] <ChaosFan> swuboo: so it did work i presume? ;)
[02:20] <ChaosFan> wonderful ;)
[02:20] <walrus> mike-digiport-, the similar way as any other removable medai
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ChaosFan: If I was spending $100 plus for a "Toy" I would want to be sure it was in the hardware comp list first
[02:20] <swuboo> Thank you kindly.
[02:20] <SlackRat> wooot! MS takes it up the butt again, heh
[02:20] <ChaosFan> Jack_Sparrow: what are you referring to?
[02:20] <swuboo> You know, for all the angst it causes me, XP wasn't worth the six dollars.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ChaosFan: How much he spent on that headset
[02:20] <SlackRat> lol
[02:21] <swuboo> I'm annoyed my university jacked up the price.  Last year it was only five dollars.
[02:21] <Ramunas> can automatix install ati drivers?
[02:21] <Lysit> 5 dollars ? Robbed
[02:21] <ChaosFan> Jack_Sparrow: so, well, that's his fault. i do take a look on how to integrate something new with the rest of my equipment before buying it. even if it costs less than 10 dollars or something
[02:21] <linuxd00d> hey i am having trouble with flash, i am able to view the pictures and stuff but not the text
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ChaosFan: I was not disagreeing with you...
[02:22] <Dimensions> Thanks Jack_Sparrow
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Dimensions: You can also look at kbasic
[02:22] <bXi> can somebody recommend a page on how to get my wireless card to connect?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: what card/chipset
[02:22] <linuxd00d>  hey i am having trouble with flash, i am able to view the pictures and stuff but not the text
[02:22] <Dimensions> ya kbasic isn't that stronger one
[02:22] <swuboo> Alright, on that note, I will express my gratitude once again, and then go have a pot of coffee.
[02:23] <mike-digiport-> ita telling me i need to specify a filesystem type
[02:23] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: not too sure
[02:23] <ChaosFan> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, then i misunderstood you. i'm not a native english speaker, you know...
[02:23] <bXi> but i know its recogniced already
[02:23] <bXi> just need to connect it
[02:23] <linuxd00d>  hey i am having trouble with flash, i am able to view the pictures and stuff but not the text
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ChaosFan: No I didnt know elglish, or the american version of it was not your native language.  You speak / tpe quite well
[02:23] <zm0> linuxd00d: i'm not sure, i think you need to apt-get OR aptitude install gsfonts-x11
[02:23] <jake> Hello, I am trying to install libxfixes-dev and keep getting dependency issues can anybody help?  I have uncommented all the repos and apt-get updated
[02:24] <ompaul> Ramunas, it is suggested you don't use that, use the documentation in its place, we have seen a lot of breakage from it over time - you can go to their channel put a # in front of the program name for support with it
[02:24] <linuxd00d> zm0: thanks
[02:24] <ChaosFan> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, but i'm just a german student of computer science ;)
[02:24] <Ramunas> ompaul: I know, but my friend is having problems, and I thought it would be easier for him
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ChaosFan: Please also help support the ubuntu - german channel...
[02:25] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: is it possible its an rt2400 chipset?
[02:25] <ChaosFan> Jack_Sparrow: i'm in there, but i seem to miss most questions as they really talk a lot of nonsense in there...
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ChaosFan: No problem.. and thanks
[02:25] <marlun> why is the Apache2 .conf file you get when installing apache2 from Ubuntu repository changed from the default? I can't even find a DocumentRoot?
[02:26] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: how does one connect to a network with this?
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/rt2400  you still need to do some work
[02:27] <linuxd00d> zm0: cheers it is now working, thanks alot
[02:27] <jake> anybody got a good howto to install gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[02:27] <zm0> linuxd00d: cool, yw :-)
[02:27] <mike-digiport-> its telling me you must specify the filesystem type when i try to mount /dev/sda
[02:28] <mike-digiport-> ...
[02:28] <ompaul> marlun, in etc/apache2/ read the README it will give some clues how to use it on Ubuntu
[02:28] <swuboo> So uh, equipped with coffee now, how do I add XP as an option to grub?
[02:28] <burhan> marlun: read /etc/apache2/README
[02:28] <ompaul> !grub > swuboo
[02:28] <ompaul> swuboo, please read the message from Ubuntu
[02:28] <der0b> is there a way to make the fonts in xterm/aterm look as smooth as they do in gnome-terminal?  I can resize, and make them readable, they just look jagged
[02:28] <bXi> hmmm great
[02:28] <ompaul> swuboo, please read the message from ubotu even
[02:28] <marlun> ok, thanks!
[02:28] <bXi> no normal lan port on this laptop
[02:28] <archangelpetro> btw, i am right in thinking that the command 'usermod -G group1,group2,group3 username'  is supposed to applicate the user to additional groups as well as the ones he's already in right?
[02:29] <swuboo> Soon as it loads, ompaul.
[02:29] <jake> swuboo, there is an example of hot to add other oses at the top of the grub.conf file.  all you need to know is where windows is on your drive, grub begins numbering drives with 0.
[02:30] <cwillu> der0b: I don't _think_ so;  they're not using gtk, and so don't get the benefits of the antialiasing done automatically (iirc)
[02:30] <LDS_Trooper> how do I use Wine?
[02:30] <der0b> thanks cwillu
[02:30] <tristan_> LDS_Trooper, wine path_to_the_application
[02:30] <swuboo> Right, I'm sure I'll figure it out from here.
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> LDS_Trooper: Joining #Wine would be a start
[02:31] <LDS_Trooper> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[02:31] <LDS_Trooper> Didn't know it existed
[02:31] <swuboo> So... asking grub to set up /dev/sda2 would involve actually asking it to set up hd0,1?
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> LDS_Trooper: Not trying to be rude.. just pointing out they have a channel with soecific info you can use
[02:32] <LDS_Trooper> no problem... I joined it and found two people who do not answer.
[02:32] <myosotis> The only thing ive seen is that o should do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and there select what locale to use, but i dont get to choose anything.
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Someone also said wine-hq
[02:32] <LDS_Trooper> Just wondering if it can be used to run Bryce 3d
[02:32] <myosotis> I have a question. Im trying to change locale on my ubuntu server (V 6.06) but I cannot find any help on how to do this anywhere.
[02:32] <ChaosFan> LDS_Trooper: try #winehq
[02:32] <trash`> Somebody can tell me what package to 'dpkg-reconfigure' to regenerate the distribution default dovecot.conf?  'dpkg-reconfigure dovecot' isn't doing it.
[02:33] <LDS_Trooper> Thanks ChaosFan
[02:33] <ChaosFan> no problem ;)
[02:33] <Farrier> Or "man wine", or is that too oldskool? :P
[02:33] <bahr> Hi, how do I change my keyboard layout in a terminal like aterm?
[02:34] <orbital_fox> Farrier, man is is oldskool, but is great :D
[02:34] <cwillu> somebody should rewrite gnome help to prettify man pages instead :)
[02:35] <orbital_fox> never seen gnome help before
[02:35] <orbital_fox> but i do use gnome :P
[02:35] <trash`> There is a ubuntu server freenode channel?  Seem like most of the questions in here are desktop.
[02:36] <cwillu> trash`: what's your problem?
[02:36] <jake> swuboo yes
[02:36] <SlackRat> where does it say this is a server channel
[02:36] <SlackRat> ?
[02:36] <swuboo> So the appropriate commands would be, "sudo grub" and then "setup hd0,1"?
[02:36] <SlackRat> it says official ubuntu support
[02:36] <ChaosFan> trash`: #ubuntu-server
[02:36] <ChaosFan> but it seems to be pretty inactive...
[02:37] <trash`> SlackRat: i'm not complaining, i'm asking if there's another channel more oriented to server questions
[02:37] <cwillu> trash`: what's your question?
[02:37] <bXi> okay
[02:37] <SlackRat> ah, heh.....
[02:37] <trash`> cwillu: above
[02:37] <erUSUL> bahr: keyboard layout is not a per app setting you have to configure it via the X server. System> Prefs> keyboard or try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:37] <trash`> cwillu: about reconfiguring dovecot
[02:37] <jake> swuboo, just copy the example in grub.conf, then scroll down to the bottom ofthe kernel list and paste what you copied and edit it to suit your needs.  That should do it.
[02:37] <trash`> ChaosFan: thanks for the channel name
[02:38] <Paddy_EIRE> can any of u guys recommend a Linux OS for a AMD Duron 1100, 256ram comp... already tried xubuntu, and edubuntu on it and they run fairly slow and looks ugly when moving any windows
[02:38] <marlun> ompaul, burhan: but for example, I just installed Trac, and I've got no idea where to find the mod_python stuff you usually put in httpd.conf, I read the README but that didn't help me much.
[02:38] <mathieu> marlun: do you run apache2?
[02:38] <marlun> mathieu, yes?
[02:38] <bXi> how does one install a package on a pc without a net connection?
[02:38] <swuboo> I'll give that a go jake, thanks.
[02:39] <Ramunas> why there's no easy way for newbies to install ati radeon drivers? Newbies don't like to mess with terminal
[02:39] <cwillu> trash`: apt-get remove ...; apt-get install ... should work (config files aren't removed by 'remove')
[02:39] <Pierric1> Hi Does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a Asus P5b
[02:39] <nol13> hi, can anyone help me get an .mkv file to play correctly? thanks
[02:39] <dsas> hmm, does anyone know what needs to be done to make items needing sudo in the system -> administration appear for a new user? membership of the admin group?
[02:39] <jake> Paddy, did you try installing the k7 kernel? the default kernel ran slow on my sempron 2800 but the k7 runs pretty good
[02:39] <Lysit> Im trying to sudo apt-get  install phpmyadmin but keep reciving "E: Couldn't find package phpmyadmin". I've removed the #'s from /etc/apt/sources.list before the universe repositories, and have done sudo apt-get update, but still get the error.
 did not try that
[02:39] <cwillu> trash`: aptitude has more options for reconfiguring, fresh reinsatlling, etc
[02:40] <mathieu> marlun: are you looking for making apache2 aware of mod_python, or for configuring trac?
[02:40] <trash`> cwillu: i just figured it out, 'rm /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf && dpkg-reconfigure dovecot-common' - thanks though
[02:40] <Pierric1> I saw the bug : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502 and try to install the edgy distrib
[02:40] <burhan> marlun: first, enable mod_python via a2enmod.
 which os would come with this kernal by default
[02:40] <swuboo> Alright.  Lemme see how all this worked.
[02:40] <Farrier> bXi: From CD? Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use file://path instead of http/ftp, and you should be able to install from local or CD.
[02:40] <Pierric1> but problem looks the same
[02:40] <cwillu> trash`: that's not particularily nice thouigh :)
[02:40] <jake> ubuntu, the k7 is in the repos
[02:40] <Boll> Anyone around who has experience using mutt across ssh from an ubuntu box?
[02:41] <trash`> cwillu: what's not nice?
[02:41] <cwillu> trash`: aptitude purge <package> and then installing it is better
[02:41] <Boll> I appear to be having trouble getting mutt to handle utf-8 encoding correctly.
 how well does your comp run now with this
[02:41] <cwillu> in case there's config done in other files (other than that folder)
[02:41] <jake> you could also dl the source and compile it yourself that will give you good Linux expierence
[02:41] <trash`> cwillu: i have no idea what other configuration files i've modified for dovecot though
[02:41] <Frugga> Hi anyone know how to boot the live cd with an ATI X1300 video card, i cant seem to get it to boot to the desktop just getting a blank screen
[02:42] <jake> check out the ubuntu forums they are by far the best Linux resource out there
[02:42] <Kaahane> I tired to update ALSA driver... It failed.. how do I get my sound work again ?
[02:42] <cwillu> trash`: I'm sure what you did will work, but i can imagine circumstances that it wouldn't, and so knowing a better way might be handy :)
k, will do cheers
[02:42] <Lysit> ignore my last question, made a mistake
[02:42] <ompaul> marlun, I have seen something about howyou do mod apache in ubuntu it is rather obvious once you see it once
[02:42] <jake> good luck
[02:43] <cwillu> ompaul: re; enabling modules?
[02:43] <cwillu> a2enmod
[02:43] <ompaul> cwillu, thats the one
[02:43] <Frugga> thanks jake but already tried, do you know if the ubuntu 6.06 uses the fglrx driver module
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> frugga  at the first screen you can hit F6 and try a few things like   Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off
[02:44] <burhan> marlun: to enable mod_python for some site, you have two options. You can edit the default site (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default) or you can create your own configuration file in /etc/apache2/sites-available and then create a symlink to that file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/, restart apache, and off you go.
[02:45] <ompaul> marlun, see a2enmod (and thank cwillu for having brought his brain with him today ;-)) and see also what burhan said
[02:45] <Frugga> thanks i will try this, i have already tried the safe graphic mode and still no good, cheers
[02:45] <cwillu> ompaul: no, I just forgot my body at home
[02:45] <ompaul> cwillu, hehe
[02:46] <burhan> and I can be bothered to ghost him.
[02:46] <cwillu> burhan: /msg nickserv recover fyrestrtr
[02:46] <cr3> is it possible for nautilus to delete or rename files without having to restart it with sudo?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> cr3: USe gksudo to run Nautilus.. when you must
[02:47] <cwillu> cr3: I don't think there's anything in there yet to automatically ask for your password when neccessary
[02:48] <Kaahane> how Do i Reconfigure ALSA drivers? and get my soundcard working...?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cr3: I created a launcher that runs it that way for my desktop
[02:48] <marlun> mathieu, burhan ompaul: thank you! =)
[02:48] <cwillu> cr3: you mean like what happens when you just double click a deb file right?  (asks for a password only after you try to install?)
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> whee
[02:49] <cwillu> lol
[02:49] <cwillu> yippee;  3d acceleration _and_ xinerama(ish)
[02:50] <cwillu> I'm almost back to winxp levels of functionality :)
[02:50] <cwillu> just need to get world of warcraft running now :)
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> so, you are saying your system crashes a lot? :P
[02:50] <ChaosFan> hehe
[02:51] <cwillu> fyrestrtr: it was actually;  experimental aiglx repo's broke my system when xorg updated the last time, such that xorg would peg the cpu after 5-15 minutes :)
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> ah yes, THAT
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> I've had some of that 'mystery cpu juice' -- traced it to freeloader once.
[02:51] <cwillu> wasn't even running aiglx/xorg-air, just had the libs installed
[02:52] <infidel> damn i finally found the place to download lotus notes for linux, it's 482 meg
[02:52] <Farrier> Back in the day, I had an 16M, 66MHz machine, and X would run on it FAST. XTerm and XV would load up faster than on the Sun machines in the university. And now... bleh. When did it become all bloaty and slow? :(
[02:52] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: can i see somehow if this rt2400 wors ?
[02:52] <lore_> hi!
[02:52] <bXi> s/wors/works/
[02:53] <cwillu> Farrier: when you started using a gradient fill on your scrollbars
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: I have no wireless experience, ask your question and someone will help.  I just wanted to nudge you in the right direction
[02:53] <cwillu> textured even
[02:53] <lupine_85> bXi: rt2400 cards are well-supported in linux
[02:53] <lore_> i'm trying tu upgrade to Edgy with the update manager, but it block on ubuntu-desktop package
[02:53] <infidel> Farrier: someone is showing there age
[02:54] <bXi> lupine_85: cab you help me getting this laptop connected?
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> lore_: ask in #ubuntu+1, and expect bugs with edgy.
[02:54] <quiet> lore_, try aptitude dist-upgrade
[02:54] <bXi> can*
[02:54] <lupine_85> bXi: how far are you? Does iwconfig show any wireless interfaces?
[02:54] <bXi> yeah i got ra0
[02:54] <cwillu> infidel: I'm remembering my atari st desktop now :)
[02:54] <lore_> ok, thx
[02:54] <cwillu> and the mac emulator that ran on it
[02:54] <lupine_85> ok, and are you just trying to connect to an open network or do you have WEP/WPA ?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Lupine.. thanks for taking that
[02:55] <bXi> i have a 10 digit key
[02:55] <bXi> so not sure what it is
[02:55] <lupine_85> ASCII or HEX ?
[02:55] <infidel> cwillu: ouch now you are showing my age
[02:55] <bXi> i have no knowledge of wlans whatsoever
[02:55] <sriram> Is there any way to easy installation of lamp on ubuntu? Help Please?
[02:55] <Farrier> darn those gradient fills - I *knew* they were a bad idea.
[02:55] <lupine_85> (e.g. does it only consist of the numerals 0-9 and the letters a-f ?)
[02:55] <infidel> cwillu: actually i had a vic 20
[02:55] <cwillu> giggle
[02:55] <orbital_fox> sriram, just use the synaptic package manager
[02:56] <cwillu> I remember the magazines laughing at people still running those :)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> infidel: I worked for Commodore back then.
[02:56] <cwillu> that was what, 10 15 years ago now
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> 25
[02:56] <infidel> Jack_Sparrow: did you really?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[02:57] <infidel> Jack_Sparrow: doing what?
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Gawd I feel old
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Programming in 6502/10
[02:57] <sriram> orbital_fox - synaptic package manager - I guesss .. I found seperate kind of apache server and PHP packages
[02:57] <sriram> but not 'lamp'
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> he was the guy that said, you know what -- lets future proof it and call it Commodore 64!
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> !lamp > sriram
[02:57] <ChaosFan> sriram: but lamp is nothing else than that
[02:57] <zap0> hello, im a linux noob... please can someone help me:   i have booted knoppix after my ubuntu live CD failed to load.. i have a HD, but it is pre-owned; i need to check if its got a FS on it.. how ?
[02:58] <infidel> Jack_Sparrow: what kind of language was that assembly
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> zap0: fdisk -l /dev/yourdisk
[02:58] <nol13> hi i need help making a vcd image, is there any easy way to convert from an .avi to a .mpg so i can use vcdimager?
[02:58] <zap0> fyrestrt1, how do i know which disk it is...  there is only 1 HD on the system, and 1 CDROM.
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> yes, and no label making compilers, everything hard coded, PM me if you want since this is offtopic
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> zap0: its probably hda if its an IDE disk, and sda if its a SATA drive.
[02:59] <zap0> IDE.
[02:59] <erUSUL> nol13: ffmpeg
[02:59] <zap0> so it would be   fdisk -l /dev/hda
[02:59] <lupine_85> don't forget to sudo :)
[03:00] <zap0> it potentially could have a Mac or 'other-linux' FS on it already.. i just need to know..  is this fdisk -l going to tell me ?
[03:00] <erUSUL> nol13: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD <-- very good how to
[03:02] <Protostar> Hello all
[03:03] <Protostar> i'm still having a problem with installing amarok
[03:03] <nol13> cool
[03:03] <Protostar> says I need libvisual .4 > but i can't find it in the repos?
[03:03] <Protostar> anyone know how to solve this?
[03:03] <nol13> thx erUSUL
[03:05] <cwillu> Protostar: libvisual-0.4-0 ?
[03:05] <cwillu> Protostar: running dapper, right?
[03:06] <Protostar> yeah
[03:06] <cwillu> Protostar: where are you looking for it?
[03:06] <Protostar> I try installing Amarok via the repos and it keeps saying I need this
[03:07] <Protostar> i looked for it and only found version libvisual 0.2
[03:07] <cwillu> Protostar: in synaptic?
[03:08] <Protostar> yeah
[03:08] <cwillu> Protostar: have you reloaded your repositories?
[03:08] <Protostar> No
[03:08] <Protostar> Should I try that?
[03:08] <cwillu> Protostar: ya;  close synaptic, then run sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0
[03:09] <cwillu> Protostar: brb, just grabbing some food
[03:09] <Protostar> okay
[03:09] <Protostar> I did that
[03:10] <Protostar> and this is what I got
[03:10] <Protostar> "Package libvisual-0.4-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:10] <Protostar> is only available from another source
[03:10] <Protostar> E: Package libvisual-0.4-0 has no installation candidate
[03:10] <Protostar> "
[03:10] <SlackRat> install the correct version from source
[03:11] <Protostar> okay
[03:11] <zap0> fyrestrtr, i did the fdisk -l /dev/hdd    hd*D*  and it showed the CDROM drive ok, but non of the other hd[a-g]  showed anything, they all said error.
[03:11] <Protostar> let me try that
[03:11] <Protostar> Is/has anyone else had this problem?
[03:11] <Crazed> sudo: /etc/init.d/inetd: command not found
[03:11] <Crazed> ..
[03:11] <Crazed> why not ? :P
[03:12] <sethk> Crazed, I believe ubuntu is using xinetd
[03:12] <cwillu> Protostar: checking
[03:12] <Crazed> hmm ok
[03:12] <zap0> fyrestrtr;  does that mean its not any fs, or just that my knoppix disk doesn't know it ?     (as it may have originally been a mac disk)
[03:12] <Crazed> nope sethk
[03:12] <Crazed> also not found
[03:12] <sethk> Crazed, yes, I checked, and it is using xinetd, so /etc/init.d/xinetd start
[03:12] <Healot> holy cow, 800++ users -
[03:12] <sethk> Crazed, then you didn't install it.  I just double checked my boxes
[03:12] <sethk> Crazed, I can give you the package name if you need it.
[03:13] <Crazed> hmm yes would be nice
[03:13] <sethk> Crazed, and, the package is .....  xinetd   :)
[03:13] <Crazed> haha
[03:13] <Crazed> already was guesing that ;)
[03:13] <cwillu> Protostar: it installed here okay
[03:13] <sethk> once in a wild things are logical.  :)
[03:13] <Protostar> AmaroK?
[03:13] <cwillu> Protostar: what kernel arch are you running?
[03:13] <sethk> Crazed, have to go to work, I'll be back this evening.
[03:13] <Protostar> How do you check that?
[03:13] <Crazed> ok cu :)
[03:13] <Protostar> I know there is a way from the CL
[03:13] <Protostar> forgot the command
[03:14] <cwillu> uname -a
[03:14] <Protostar> thx
[03:14] <cwillu> Protostar: I just installed libvisual-0.4-0, I'm trying amarok right now
[03:14] <Protostar> using kernel 2.6.15-26-386
[03:15] <cwillu> okay, so it's not some 64bit/ppc issue
[03:15] <Protostar> I'm using a 64 Bit Athlon
[03:15] <cwillu> yes, but you're using a 32 bit kernel, so it shouldn't be an issue
[03:15] <barongas> I need to install a windows partition to dual-boot with my dapper installation without screwing it over, I have a partition on another harddrive waiting for this but I've heard that installing windows as the second os is a bitch, any tips?
[03:15] <cwillu> unless it's being to smart for its own good :/
[03:16] <kouwe> can someone help me with this VLC problem ? --> VLC media player 0.8.5 Janus
[03:16] <kouwe> [00000280]  main dialogs provider error: no dialogs provider module matched "any"
[03:16] <kouwe> [00000279]  skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found (hint: com pile the wxWidgets plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)
[03:16] <kowa> hi all
[03:16] <cwillu> anybody know if dpkg will try to install a 64 bit package even if you're running a 32 bit kernel (but on a 64 bit cpu)?
[03:16] <rem__> .
[03:17] <Crazed> hmm
[03:17] <Crazed> does anyone here know a good guide to setup a vncserver ?
[03:17] <_ian> hi, how come my windows partitions are seen in /media butnhave locks on their icons and i cant access them
[03:17] <Crazed> with http connection ? :p
[03:17] <cwillu> Protostar: what does dpkg --print-architecture say?
[03:17] <Afief> What good OSS 3d games are out there?
[03:17] <dabomb422> i'm having a couple of problems
[03:17] <Protostar> hold on
[03:17] <Protostar> let me check
[03:18] <cwillu> _ian: open a terminal, cd /media, and pastebin the output of ls -a
[03:18] <Protostar> says i386
[03:18] <barongas> Afief, Quake :)
[03:18] <cwillu> hmm, not that
[03:18] <Healot> tried Planet Penguin Racer, Afief, stupid but good
[03:18] <cwillu> Protostar: and you apt-get update'd, with no errors?
[03:18] <kowa> how can i update my totme?
[03:18] <Protostar> yeah
[03:18] <kowa> totem
[03:18] <Protostar> I used the Source-O-Matic
[03:18] <dabomb422> when I configure a program, it says compiler cannot create executibles
[03:18] <Protostar> maybe I should create another source list?
[03:19] <cwillu> Protostar: maybe;  can you pastebin me your current list?
[03:19] <Afief> Healot: i am not into racers, i prefer games like prince of persia and starcraft(i know starcraft runs under wine)
[03:19] <Protostar> sure, hold on
[03:19] <cwillu> Protostar: just installed on my end fine
[03:19] <Protostar> "# Automatically generated sources.list
[03:19] <Protostar> # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:19] <Protostar> #
[03:19] <Protostar> # If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
[03:19] <Protostar> # and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number)
[03:19] <Protostar> #
[03:19] <Protostar> # gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[03:19] <rendo> Someone I know is trying to install Ubuntu but it comes up with a few errors during install, one being Linux-386 setup failure, does anyone know what causes this or does anyone have a link to the ubuntuforums with similar issues so I can try and help him out of the Windows situation?
[03:19] <Protostar> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[03:19] <Protostar> # Ubuntu supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[03:19] <Protostar> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[03:19] <Protostar> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[03:19] <Protostar> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[03:19] <Protostar> # Ubuntu supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[03:20] <Protostar> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[03:20] <Healot> Afief: you'll know what PPracer all about after you install it
[03:20] <cwillu> um
[03:20] <Protostar> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[03:20] <holzmodem> hi im searching for a newer version of Kismet,... is there one available?
[03:20] <Protostar> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[03:20] <cwillu> don't do that :(
[03:20] <Protostar> # Ubuntu community supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[03:20] <Protostar> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[03:20] <Protostar> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[03:20] <Protostar> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[03:20] <dabomb422> when I configure a program, why does it say compiler cannot create executibles
[03:20] <cwillu> !pastebin
[03:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:20] <Protostar> # Ubuntu community supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[03:20] <[joemaxxx] > hello world!
[03:20] <Protostar> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[03:20] <Protostar> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[03:20] <_ian> .  ..  cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  hda1  hda2
[03:20] <_ian> cwillu: its just one line .....  ..  cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  hda1  hda2
[03:20] <Hobbsee> why didnt anyone call !ops before that?
[03:20] <[joemaxxx] > has anybody here been using K3B?
[03:20] <_ian> sorry pressed it twice
[03:20] <cwillu> _ian: oops, I meant ls -l
[03:21] <dabomb422> when I configure a program, why does it say compiler cannot create executibles?
[03:21] <[joemaxxx] > its saying that cdrecord doesnt hav permissions to burn or sumthing
[03:21] <lupine_85> dabomb422: do you have binutils installed?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> b-e > dabomb422
[03:21] <cwillu> !pastebin >protostar:
[03:21] <cybertoast> hi, can anyone help me get my microphone configured to record? skype works, but sound recorder/audacity do not. thanks
[03:21] <compengi> how do i update my java runtime in the terminal?
[03:21] <cwillu> !pastebin > Protostar
[03:22] <rendo> Someone I know is trying to install Ubuntu but it comes up with a few errors during install, one being Linux-386 setup failure, does anyone know what causes this or does anyone have a link to the ubuntuforums with similar issues so I can try and help him out of the Windows situation?
[03:22] <Hobbsee> cwillu: he's gone
[03:22] <dabomb422> lupine_85: yeah, ver 2.16.1cvs20060117
[03:22] <cwillu> Hobbsee: I can see that;  my bad, I should've sent him the pastebin info before telling him to pastebin that file
[03:22] <_ian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22808
[03:22] <Hobbsee> cwillu: you cant help people being idiots.
[03:23] <Hobbsee> cwillu: and you cant force people to read the /topic either
[03:23] <quagmyre> hi all, i am trying to set up Ubuntu on an old 733 Celeron for my Mother in Law... after an interesting morning, i get a game to fire up (yes, pathetic, but she wants card games and a browser) and i must say, the display is primative... how can i make the simple card games look professional enough so she wont whine?
[03:23] <cwillu> Hobbsee: that was kinda uncalled for;  it's an honest mistake, and most irc clients that people'd be using make it far to easy to paste huge amounts of text (i.e,. by autosplitting it)
[03:23] <dabomb422> lupine_85: and it just started to happen recently
[03:24] <rendo> quagmyre- Hit her in the head so her vision goes a little
[03:24] <Hobbsee> cwillu: true.  ish.
[03:24] <rendo> Just a thought. :P
[03:24] <quagmyre> LOL @ rendo
[03:24] <rendo> Oh?
[03:24] <quagmyre> i actually like her ;)
[03:24] <Hobbsee> cwillu: a lot of clients now have a built in "are you sure you want to spam the channel?" dialogue
[03:24] <rendo> Mother in law. :P
[03:24] <rendo> Hit her harder. :P
[03:24] <cwillu> it happens, I generally assume that i'll have to educate them first anyway;  just forgot to this time :)
[03:24] <kowa> im new with ubuntu ..does anybody know a channel, i can ask?
[03:24] <_ian> cwillu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22808
[03:24] <cwillu> gaim doesn't, xchat doesn't :)
[03:25] <Farrier> kowa: try #ubuntu :D
[03:25] <cwillu> kowa: just ask
[03:25] <_ian> Farrier: lol
[03:25] <Hobbsee> cwillu: konversation does.  get a better client :P
[03:25] <cybertoast> quagmyre: i'm assuming you're tried the std video configuration? also, make sure you've got the ati, nvidia drivers if that's the sort of video you have
[03:25] <cwillu> _ian: k, hda1 right?
[03:25] <compengi> how do i update my java runtime?
[03:25] <kowa> how can i update totem, cause i cant play videos
[03:25] <_ian> and 2 too
[03:25] <breuerp> Can anyone help me out with installing on an IBM xSeries 306?
[03:25] <Protostar> sorry about that
[03:25] <cwillu> Hobbsee: not everybody can stand to use kubuntu :)
[03:25] <Protostar> didn't know about Pastebin
[03:25] <Hobbsee> cwillu: heh.  that's changing
[03:25] <cwillu> Protostar: np
[03:25] <Crazed> does onyone know why I don't get any GDM login screen with VNC ?
[03:26] <cwillu> !pastebin
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:26] <dabomb422> does anyone know why I always get the error "compiler cannot create executibles"?
[03:26] <cr3> cwillu: sorry for the late response regarding nautilus, I simply mean when browsing files. if I encounter a system file owned by root for example, I would expect nautilus to popup an authentication box if I wanted to modify a file owned by root.
[03:26] <Farrier> Does ubuntu come with a clickable onscreen keyboard?
[03:26] <cwillu> cr3: yep, I know what you mean;  nautilus doesn't have support for it yet though :(
[03:26] <quagmyre> cybertoast: it is an intigrated mobo... real POS... but i guess i should mess with the drivers first and make sure they are cool and i am not using some gawdawful default mode... TY for the pointer, i will check
[03:26] <_ian> Farrier yes it does....
[03:26] <kowa> yes
[03:26] <Crazed> does onyone know why I don't get any GDM login screen with VNC ?
[03:26] <cwillu> _ian: you can't access hda2?
[03:26] <dabomb422> when I configure a program, why does it say compiler cannot create executibles?
[03:27] <Protostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22809
[03:27] <Protostar> there you go Cwillu
[03:27] <cwillu> _ian: I'd think you couldn't write to hda2, but you should be able to read it
[03:27] <cwillu> thx
[03:27] <Protostar> my Sources list
[03:27] <SlackRat> check permissions dabomb422....for gcc
[03:27] <cybertoast> quagmyre: i've run ubuntu on some pretty crappy hardware and it works relatively well. at least you should be able to get a decent res with the vesa drivers (run the xfree config stuff and check the drivers)
[03:27] <mempf-edgy> can someone help me getting my build in card reader working?
[03:27] <dabomb422> SlackRat: the permissions to the bin, or...
[03:27] <kowa> how cann i update totem?
[03:27] <Farrier> _ian: Any idea what it might be called? At the moment, since synergy has died, I have no keyboard on my linux box, so I'm "typing" by cut-pasting the letters with the mouse.
[03:28] <mempf-edgy> its detecting the card
[03:28] <quagmyre> TY cybertoast, i will look into it
[03:28] <_ian> cwillu:i can but nothings showing up,,,,actually i dont need toight i jsut need to read since my windows files are there....and im trying to migrate slowly to linux since im like 2 days old
[03:28] <mempf-edgy> just not mounting it
[03:28] <cr3> cwillu: it would be a cool thing so that people don't have to revert to the console :(
[03:28] <cybertoast> good luck
[03:28] <Crazed> zzz
[03:28] <cwillu> cr3: I know
[03:28] <SlackRat> what ur trying to compile as well, make sure its executable
[03:28] <breuerp> Can anyone help me out with installing on an IBM xSeries 306?
[03:29] <cybertoast> dabomb422: sudo apt-get install totem (but that's the obvious answer!). what's the problem?
[03:29] <rendo> Someone I know is trying to install Ubuntu but it comes up with a few errors during install, one being Linux-386 setup failure, does anyone know what causes this or does anyone have a link to the ubuntuforums with similar issues so I can try and help him out of the Windows situation?
[03:29] <cwillu> _ian: do you need the latest version of amarok?
[03:29] <Crazed> does onyone know why I don't get any GDM login screen with VNC ?
[03:29] <cwillu> _ian: it insatlled fine for me just out of the normal repositories
[03:29] <SlackRat> lol, reverting to console is half the fun of linux
[03:29] <dabomb422> cybertoast: I have no problem with totem.  It's my package managers and C/C++ compilers
[03:29] <SlackRat> faster , cleaner and easier to troubleshoot
[03:29] <cr3> cwillu: I'll see if there's a bug about that logged in malone
[03:29] <cwillu> oops
[03:29] <synic> ...not to mention half the usefulness.  remote administration ++
[03:29] <javiolo> are there any problems for intel 64 bits ?
[03:29] <cwillu> _ian: sorry, wrong guy :)
[03:30] <_ian> cwillu not really i got xmms up and running...  i jsut want my office files so i can copy it and use it with open office ehhe
[03:30] <cybertoast> dabomb: what happens?
[03:30] <cwillu> Protostar: do you need the latest version?  amarok installed just fine for me out of the standard repo's
[03:30] <cwillu> _ian: I know, I sent those messages to the wrong person
[03:30] <Protostar> Not really
[03:30] <SlackRat> anyone install ubuntu from the linux format dvd??
[03:30] <cwillu> _ian: can you pastebin /etc/fstab ?
[03:30] <Protostar> Should I change my sources list?
[03:31] <dabomb422> SlackRat: all permissions look fine to me (-rwxr-xr-x)
[03:31] <cwillu> Protostar: k, I'd try removing the amarok repositories, then apt-get update and try reinstalling
[03:31] <SlackRat> hmn, well thats not the issue then
[03:31] <Protostar> k, thx
[03:31] <Protostar> i'll try that
[03:31] <cwillu> _ian: did you need write support to the windows drives, or is read-only fine?
[03:31] <SlackRat> <trying to remember how i got round those errors for exe>
[03:31] <dabomb422> cybertoast: well, none of the package managers will connect to the internet, even though anyother app will.
[03:32] <compengi> how do i update my java runtime?
[03:32] <dabomb422> cybertoast: lemme grab the error...
[03:32] <Protostar> WOOT
[03:32] <_ian> hmm is linux capable of writing to ntfs without corruption? well im really new so sorry if i ahve it all wrong
[03:32] <Protostar> its working
[03:32] <cwillu> yay
[03:32] <Protostar> thanks for all your help cwillu
[03:32] <cwillu> _ian: there's a few approaches
[03:32] <Protostar> I really appreciate it
[03:32] <cybertoast> dabomb: give me output of apt-get update
[03:32] <cwillu> Protostar: np
[03:32] <compengi> _ian, no you can't write on ntfs
[03:32] <ChaosFan> _ian: write support for ntfs is "experimental"
[03:32] <cwillu> _ian: the latest one I'm not familiar with (some native solution that's actually stable apaprently)
[03:33] <_ian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22812
[03:33] <ChaosFan> you could try, but i know far more cases corrupting the filesystem than not
[03:34] <Crazed> rly gay VNC
[03:34] <Crazed> not working at all :p
[03:34] <_ian> ok read  will  be fine
[03:34] <cwillu> _ian: k
[03:34] <cwillu> _ian: you've got a typo on /dev/hda2 (defualts)
[03:35] <Descention> is it possible to bridge two eth connections in ubuntu?
[03:35] <cwillu> _ian: then on both hda1 and hda2, change defaults to defaults,umask=0000
[03:35] <dabomb422> cybertoast: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22815
[03:35] <cwillu> _ian: this will make those readable to anybody who can log onto your computer though
[03:35] <cwillu> _ian: which is generally what I want, but might not be what you want
[03:36] <_ian> no problem....anybody is only mebody ehheeh ...thanks a lot i tried tweaking fstab also thats why there a typo ive b een reading a lot and yes it is hard to learn ehhehe
[03:36] <[GuS] > Hi people!! i've updated the kernel on my ubuntu installation on a ASUS K8N4-E mother, that i had fixed before a problem with boot... i forgot the option in grub.. :(
[03:36] <cwillu> _ian: you can get more specific by setting the group or user owner on it, and changing the permission mask to suit (man mount will have info on how to do that)
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> _ian  fyi typo on line 007
[03:36] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: you're so 5-minutes-ago :)
[03:37] <_ian> yeah capt jack thanks
[03:37] <cwillu> _ian: then if you want write support, you can do the fusefs approach (uses the windows driver to write to it), but i find it a little less than stable.  no data corruption issues, but I've had it lock the drive up so I need to reboot to access it again
[03:38] <dabomb422> cybertoast: so, any news yet?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu: It took 4 for the Ub paste to load..
[03:38] <Descention> does anyone know if i can create an ethernet bridge in ubuntu?
[03:38] <cwillu> _ian: there's also some new fangled native driver that's supposed to be stable, but I haven't played with it yet
[03:38] <cwillu> lol
[03:38] <_ian> well i wouldnt take the risk not until i understand how kubuntu works ehhe
[03:38] <cybertoast> dabomb: you seem to have a proxy or something that's goofing. try 'grep -r http_proxy /etc/*' and 'grep -r http_proxy $HOME/.*'
[03:39] <ChaosFan> Descention: i know someone who did that once, but not how... at least there seems to be a way ;)
[03:39] <cybertoast> dabomb: sorry, that should be 'grep -r http_proxy ~/*'
[03:39] <cwillu> _ian: once you've changed the file, sudo umount /media/hda1...hda2 and sudo mount -a, and you should be good
[03:39] <abhinay> how to backup (or make into .iso file) the CD ?
[03:39] <abhinay> in shell ?
[03:40] <cybertoast> dabomb: this thread (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=310&) has solution to your problems
[03:40] <[GuS] > again... Some knows ho to fix the problem related to ASUS K8N4-E boot?... i forgot the lines to add in the grub... is about PCI problems...
[03:40] <SlackRat> noapci?
[03:40] <_ian> on uymoutn hda2 it said its not mounted
[03:40] <[GuS] > yes!
[03:40] <[GuS] > that one
[03:40] <[GuS] > thanks SlackRat
[03:40] <_ian> when i did sudo mount -a no media mounted
[03:40] <SlackRat> no problem
[03:41] <_ian> i mean medium found
[03:41] <[GuS] > i forgot that one :)
[03:41] <[GuS] > so is noapci in grub kernel boot
[03:41] <SlackRat> sometimes on some distros apci=no
[03:41] <cybertoast> can anyone help me get microphone input working (recording sound) pls
[03:41] <[GuS] > ok
[03:41] <_ian> or should i just restart?
[03:41] <visik7> eclipse packaged on dapper doesn't handle alternatives properly
[03:41] <[GuS] > yeah.. i forgot.. this mother need that option at least in Kubuntu
[03:41] <cwillu> _ian: you could, although this should also work unless there's something else wrong
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> acpi=off
[03:41] <[GuS] > i did test it in ubuntu
[03:41] <[GuS] > didn*
[03:41] <cwillu> _ian: do you have any shells/windows open to that directory?
[03:42] <tc_> anyone know how to change the color of my background on my windows like if i open my home folder...instead of having white background,have it black or even better semi transperent?
[03:42] <SlackRat> has anyone used the ubuntu dvd from linux format magazine? i strongly recommend it, unless its the same as the standard ubuntu dvd
[03:42] <[GuS] > Jack_Sparrow, that will not work 100%
[03:42] <[GuS] > just works with apci=no
[03:42] <SlackRat> cool
[03:42] <[GuS] > with acpi=off... the mouse will no t work on this mother
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> INteresting
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Didnt know there was a difference
[03:43] <[GuS] > seems yes :)
[03:43] <dabomb422> cybertoast: thanks for the thread link.  It appears that anon-proxy messed with the settings (which I installed but later uninstalled)
[03:43] <tc_> anyone have a website etc even for transperent background inside of a window
[03:43] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: there's 4 different acpi-like flags that are all slightly different;  they're listed on wiki.ubuntu.com somewhere
[03:44] <infidel> is there anything close in linux to yahoo messenger or has anyone ran it on wine?
[03:44] <foxjwill> hi, how do I repartition my hardrive? I have 20 gigs of space on my windows ntfs partition and want to transfer it to my ubuntu ext3
[03:44] <orbital_fox> tc_ transparent window ?
[03:44] <Thunderpants> infidel, try gaim
[03:44] <cwillu> infidel: looked at gaim?
[03:44] <megan00b> hi, hope someone could give me a hand. ive just installed ubuntu on my second slave hard disc. Im running winXP on my 1st hard disk. but for some reason, when I reboot after the installation, my machine just boots into XP as if nothing has changed, any ideas??
[03:44] <dabomb422> tc_ like Windows Aero?
[03:44] <tc_> orbital yes ok i have downloaded this theme for compiz its a black one and in the picture the guy has black background.. hold on i will get link
[03:45] <_ian> hmmm
[03:45] <infidel> yeah but it really can't compare to yahoo
[03:45] <_ian> cwillu il be back i have to go...thnks see you around
[03:46] <cwillu> k
[03:46] <tc_> ok for anyone who wants to try help..this link http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=44934&file1=44934-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Darkly+Glassed  ok i have this theme installed it has black borders etc but not black background inside of console etc?
[03:46] <SlackRat> yahoo??? bleh
[03:46] <dabomb422> megan00b: did you install LILO or GRUB from the ubuntu installation?
[03:46] <infidel> Thunderpants: you know what i mean?
[03:46] <megan00b> dabomb422: the ubuntu installation never asked me to install any of those
[03:47] <tc_> like default ubuntu theme style is white or greyish background black text..i want white text black background
[03:47] <dabomb422> megan00b: those are boot loaders, which lets you select which OS or Linux kernal to boot from.
[03:47] <dabomb422> megan00b: Let me see if I can find the site...
[03:47] <infidel> cwillu: does gaim even support webcan and voice?
[03:48] <Thunderpants> infidel, the package calle 'gaim' handles yahoo maessebger protocol
[03:48] <tc_> no
[03:48] <megan00b> well, when I installed ubuntu it just asked me  about my language, where did I wanted to install, and thats it.
[03:48] <sonium_> does someone use BOINC here?
[03:48] <Thunderpants> no idea infidel
[03:48] <cwillu> infidel: sorry, I have no idea
[03:48] <Healot> there is another version of gaim taht support you mad camers
[03:48] <tc_> dabomb can u help? do u know what i mean
[03:48] <dabomb422> megan00b: you installed 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)?
[03:48] <megan00b> yes
[03:49] <dennda> hi. i am seeking for a tool which fetches id3tags for mp3 files from the internet and manipulates the mp3 files with the new tag automatically. i just want to enter the path of a folder with music which has no names yet and want to enjoy the easiness of automatic file naming. is there any tool available for ubuntu to do that?
[03:49] <dabomb422> tc_ I haven't dabbled in that stuff yet (I'm still sorta new) but what kind of video card do you have?
[03:49] <tc_> nvidia gforce 6800 ultra
[03:49] <tc_> i got compiz etc all working
[03:49] <tc_> i jus dont know how to make backgrounds black on all windows
[03:49] <megan00b> I've trying to fix it doing what it says here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but it doesnt work
[03:50] <Linuturk_code> megan00b, did you install it from the live cd or the text based installer?
[03:50] <megan00b> from the live cd
[03:50] <megan00b> Im running it right now
[03:50] <ChaosFan> tc_: your using compiz/xgl?
[03:50] <tc_> orbital_fox u have any idea?
[03:50] <Linuturk_code> running the live cd ?
[03:50] <tc_> ChaosFan yes im useing cgwd
[03:50] <dabomb422> she didn't install GRUB or LILO
[03:50] <tc_> i have compiz themes working but if you look@this link http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=44934&file1=44934-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Darkly+Glassed
[03:51] <tc_> i want the black background he has inside of the windows
[03:51] <ChaosFan> tc_: try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, there has to be someone who knows ;)
[03:51] <tc_> hmm k
[03:51] <cwillu> heh;  that's a neat theme
[03:51] <dabomb422> I might try it myself
[03:51] <cwillu> they have blurring now I see
[03:52] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do I get the Ubuntu artwork back after installing Xubuntu-Desktop and Kubuntu-Desktop?  Now my boot up screen is Kubuntu and my halt screen is Xubuntu.
[03:52] <orbital_fox> ye. taking 20 % of ur cpu ;)
[03:52] <megan00b> what ive found out from google so far is that somehow ubuntu didn't install grub or lilo. but I cant seem to find a way to install it from the live cd that actually works
[03:52] <dennda> Tonren, ubuntu-desktop might help :)
[03:52] <dabomb422> Linuturk_code: would megan00b be able to install grub/lilo from the internet?
[03:52] <[GuS] > well.. to confirm SlackRat and Jack_Sparrow this mother (ASUS K8N4-E) only will boot with acpi=off and noapci options
[03:52] <Tonren> dennda: Installing the other desktop packages UNinstalls ubuntu-desktop?
[03:53] <jake> can anybody help solve a libxfixes dependency issue?
[03:53] <[GuS] > interesting to take care
[03:53] <dennda> no i do not think so
[03:53] <dennda> ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package only
[03:53] <Linuturk_code> dabomb422, I'm not sure, I'm at a loss
[03:53] <dennda> but maybe the configuration is redone then
[03:53] <dabomb422> Linuturk_code: I'm almost positive that it's an option on there
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> [GuS] : It takes both of those on that board?
[03:54] <Tonren> dennda: Hmm, interesting.  I'll try it out
[03:54] <[GuS] > yes
[03:54] <hc> hello
[03:54] <[GuS] > indeed needs thosw two options
[03:54] <[GuS] > will not work with only one
[03:54] <hc> all right, when i configure denyhosts, and i want the log to be at /var/log/denyhosts.log
[03:54] <hc> should i create that file?
[03:54] <Tonren> dennda: It says ubuntu-desktop is already at the latest version.  :\
[03:54] <hc> if i have to create it, how? using nano?
[03:55] <[GuS] > if you dont add thse options.. the MB will no boot and HD will be not recognized (bedides PCI errors)
[03:56] <bezibaerchen> hc: (sudo) touch /var/log/denyhosts.log
[03:56] <megan00b> dabomb422: is it possible to install grub to that same hard drive where ubuntu is installed, a slave hard drive, so that when I want to boot ubuntu Ill just tell the bios to boot from that drive?
[03:56] <hc> bezibaerchen: thanks mate ;)
[03:56] <hellokthulu> Hi All!
[03:56] <bezibaerchen> hc: yrw
[03:56] <arix> hello everyone
[03:56] <dennda> Tonren, i'm not sure, sorry. but i am convinced that searching the web for a solution or asking in this channel further times will help you get your problem solved. should'nt be that hard
[03:56] <Tonren> dennda: Aye aye
[03:56] <dabomb422> megan00b: I've only got one drive, but I believe that'll work
[03:57] <arix> i have a problem to solve
[03:57] <hellokthulu> I've got a shell script on the desktop to run a program (with weird args, which is why it has to be a script).
[03:57] <hellokthulu> I want it to run when double-clicked, but I get the "Do you want to run "Script", or display its contents?" dialog.
[03:57] <hellokthulu> Any way to get it to just run?
[03:58] <arix> do anyone of you know the reason why my cdrom reads only dvds and not cds? i am using ubuntu 6.06.
[03:58] <cwillu> hellokthulu: mark it with execute permissions, or make a launcher for it?
[03:58] <[GuS] > mmm now i have the mouse problem Jack_Sparrow , the system boot... but the mouse is not working... i think something miss in the noapci option
[03:58] <hellokthulu> cwillu: It has execute permissions... how do I make a launcher?
[03:58] <cwillu> right click
[03:58] <hsunda3_> Does Linux have an assembler? I am looking at some equivalent for TASM (Turbo) or MASM (Microsoft) assemblers that we learn at school
[03:58] <cwillu> on the desktop that is
[03:58] <[GuS] > ahh i know
[03:58] <[GuS] > is pci=noapci
[03:59] <Tonren> Hey, has anyone gotten Photoshop 7 running under Wine?  I'm about to give up ant get Crossover Office.
[03:59] <[GuS] > so, again is apci=off and pci=noapci
[03:59] <megan00b> anybody knows how to install grub from the live cd??
[03:59] <xhaan> hellokthulu, you want to go Edit->Preferences->Behavior
[03:59] <SlackRat> hsunda3_: check synaptic under programming languages, development etc......
[03:59] <quiet> ive done PS7 under CXO... but not normal wine.
[03:59] <cwillu> xhaan: not really, because in general that's good behaviour
[04:00] <hsunda3_> Slackrat no Synaptic. I am not running a GUI?
[04:00] <dabomb422> megan00b: also, you might want to try a third party boot loader (OSL 2000)
[04:01] <hsunda3_> Slackrat any ideas?
[04:01] <hellokthulu> cwillu, THANKS!  Making a launcher did it.  I appreciate it!
[04:01] <cwillu> np
[04:01] <barongas> How do I format a floppy-disc in ubuntu?
[04:01] <barongas> Or.. a floppy is /dev/what?
[04:01] <ChaosFan> /dev/fd0 by default
[04:01] <Luke> hsunda3_: what arch?
[04:01] <barongas> Cool, I'll try that. thanks
[04:01] <hsunda3_> Luke we are learning 486 in school, but I have a 686
[04:01] <cwillu> barongas: if you open nautilus up to the computer level, I think you can right click on the floppy to format
[04:02] <Luke> hsunda3_: ah awesome. Which asm did you download?
[04:02] <hsunda3_> Luke: I found tasm somewhere on the web.
[04:02] <Luke> hsunda3_: you didnt get one form the ubuntu repos?
[04:02] <hsunda3_> but that's on Windows ... I want something on Linux
[04:02] <hsunda3_> Luke: I don't know what it is called?
[04:02] <Luke> just search synaptic
[04:02] <Luke> i'm searching now
[04:03] <SlackRat> hsunda3_: not at the moment, im on a slackbox
[04:03] <hsunda3_> Luke: I am not running a GUI...
[04:03] <Luke> hsunda3_: apt-cache search asm
[04:03] <easytiger> hi. mysql on ubuntu: why won't it allow non local connections?
[04:03] <cwillu> hsunda3_: then aptitude then :p
[04:03] <cwillu> easytiger: there's probably a config option in the config file in /etc
[04:03] <darkdread_> How settings lilo for starter Ubuntu??
[04:03] <hsunda3_> cwillu ok :) ... I believe there's NASM? Is it compatible Luke? Any idea?
[04:03] <Luke> hsunda3_: there's a gnu one called binutils
 i can't find any mysql files there
[04:04] <cwillu> http://docs.cs.up.ac.za/programming/asm/derick_tut/
[04:04] <Healot> !info nasm
[04:04] <ubotu> nasm: General-purpose x86 assembler. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98.38-1.2 (dapper), package size 1511 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[04:04] <hsunda3_> Luke I read about gnu gas (GNU Assembler) ... but it has plety of compatibility problems with the tasm/masm ...
[04:04] <Luke> hsunda3_: yea nasm should work great
[04:04] <easytiger> !mysql
[04:04] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:04] <cwillu> easytiger: locate mysql|grep etc
[04:04] <Healot> okay nasm is still around
[04:04] <barongas> Gah! both nautilus and cfdisk finds an error at track #0 of all my mint condition unused floppies :( what to do?
[04:04] <hsunda3_> thanks healot .. thanks luke .. let me get to some assembly programming now :)
[04:04] <Luke> hsunda3_: what do you mean compat problems?
[04:04] <Luke> hsunda3_: shouldnt 486 asm be the same no matter what asm you use?
[04:05] <hsunda3_> Luke the same code not working on gas, but working on tasm
[04:05] <darkdread_> How settings lilo for starter Ubuntu??
[04:05] <Luke> hsunda3_: wow thats weird. yea i'd just try binutils (which may already be installed) and nasm
[04:05] <Luke> hsunda3_: but i've got to go
[04:05] <Luke> good luck mate
[04:05] <easytiger> i recall reading that it bans non local connections anyone know how to fix this?
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone help me fix a keyboard problem im getting here is a screen shot of th error
[04:06] <Healot> i remember the time of MASM
[04:06] <Healot> with pentium opcodes
[04:06] <cwillu> easytiger: so you don't ahve an /etc/mysql/my.cnf file?
[04:06] <cwillu> or anything like that?
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[04:07] <kowa> how can i update my c++ compiler
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> i get that error upon logging in
 sorry i do
[04:07] <darkdread_> How settings lilo for starter Ubuntu??
[04:07] <florizs1984> does anyone know if the forums are down?
[04:07] <florizs1984> or is it just me?
[04:08] <Protostar> which file system is better? ext3 or reiser4?
[04:08] <Healot> not fond of the forum
[04:08] <darkdread_> !grub
[04:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:08] <Protostar> performance and stability wise
[04:08] <MirrorSpock> this IBM machine is driving me insane, does anybody here have experience with mounting CIFS shares? I can see the mounted share, but cannot access the files (Too many open files in system)
[04:08] <SlackRat> had a problem getting onto a forum site a few moments ago too
 apparently it depends on what u will be using the comp for
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> i use ext3
[04:08] <Protostar> well this drive will be used to store media files
[04:09] <Protostar> like music (mp3s), videos, etc
 movies, music pis and the like?
[04:09] <Protostar> yeah
[04:09] <barongas> Could the reason that the floppies wouldn't format be that they weren't included in /etc/fstab?
 they say reiser is good for small but numerous files so for mp3 it would be good but for movies which are big i wouldnt thnk it would benefit but i really dont know....i have wanted to get a proper answer to this myself
[04:11] <cwillu> Paddy_EIRE: nope
[04:11] <kowa> Protostar: do you know a chanel , i can ask?
[04:11] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[04:11] <cwillu> Paddy_EIRE: small == tiny text files
[04:11] <Protostar> Na
well then enlighten me
[04:11] <Protostar> O
[04:11] <cwillu> just use ext3 :)
[04:11] <Protostar> I don't know myself, kowa
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah ext 3
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> cant go wrong
[04:11] <kowa> ok
[04:12] <cwillu> Paddy_EIRE: ya, when they're talking about efficiency for small files, they're talking down to handfuls of bytes;  mp3s are still considered large in that sense
[04:12] <kowa> cwillu: do you know howto update my c++ compiler?
[04:12] <cwillu> although the directory listings would still be a bit more efficient under reiserfs
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> i suppose you are right... but when drives are bigger like a terabyte would the filesystem need to be changed
[04:12] <cwillu> kowa: beyond what's in the repositories?
[04:13] <cwillu> Paddy_EIRE: in the sense that if you get a new drive, you're putting a new file system on it anyway?
[04:14] <barongas> I*m trying to install xp on a separate drive and I did it before without screwing ubuntu over. Now I'm stuck at trying to get my xp-disc to boot from bios. Any tips?
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone tell me i could fix this error when i log in....it messed some of my keyboard keys like shift and certain keys dont work
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[04:16] <quiet> barongas, when it says hit any key to boot from cd.. it means whatever key you want... not a key that says "any" on it...
[04:16] <quiet> ;)
[04:16] <barongas> hehe
[04:17] <quiet> but umm.. one tip would be to make the bios boot CD before HDD...
[04:17] <barongas> I never got that far. But the windisc works fine in windows on gfs wincomputer. Don't dare to reboot it to try bootability cause she'll kill me.
[04:17] <Protostar> okay i formatted it and it says 3 gigs are already taken out of the 186.32 GB
[04:17] <Protostar> why is that?
[04:17] <quiet> Protostar, reserved
[04:17] <Protostar> for what?
[04:18] <Protostar> use of the filesystem?
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> 3 gig!! sounds a bit much
[04:18] <quiet> yes.. there is a certain about of reserved blocks (generally 5%, but it's adjustable)... so if you fill it up.. your machine will still boot.
[04:18] <vlt> Hello. I want to extract images from a PDF file. I tried `pdfimages -j foo.pdf image-` but nothing happens. Trying the same on Debian with the same PDF file works. What is different here
 you have a oem system perhaps
[04:19] <Protostar> I built this one myself
[04:19] <vlt> s/here/here?/
[04:19] <kowa> cwillu g++ 4
[04:19] <Protostar> the drive I formatted is a separate drive and will not be used to boot from
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> can i reinstall the uk qwerty keyboard layout??
[04:21] <Paddy_EIRE> i can do the pound sign i just get the number 3 again
[04:21] <quiet> Protostar, man tune2fs
[04:21] <cwillu> kowa: g++ in the repositories show version 4;  can probably just install that
[04:22] <Protostar> okay, thx
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[04:22] <kowa> cwillu: thank you
[04:23] <cwillu> kowa: np
[04:24] <quiet> Protostar, something like this:   sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/hdb1    or whatever the big partition is.. .to lower reserved space to 1%
[04:24] <Protostar> okay, thank you much
[04:24] <midgetg0at> Heya - i found a script for nautilus that is supposed to let me mount an iso....assuming it'll also work for a bin, why isnt it working?!
[04:25] <BlueVoid> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with a GeForce FX Go 5200 video card.  I would like to have dual monitors, is this possible?
[04:25] <erUSUL> midgetg0at: it will not work with a bin
[04:25] <midgetg0at> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/24/nautilus-script-to-mount-iso-files/
[04:25] <midgetg0at> awww
[04:25] <midgetg0at> thats ghetto
[04:25] <midgetg0at> hwo can i mount bin files :)
[04:25] <erUSUL> midgetg0at: use bchunk to convert the bin to a iso
[04:26] <Healot> !info bchunk
[04:26] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
 bchunk has never worked for me or my mate and a dozen odd other comps
[04:26] <LuPe>   /part
it makes to iso images that do not work
[04:27] <midgetg0at> i'm not worried about burning
[04:27] <ChaosFan> bchunk worked just fine when i last trief
[04:27] <midgetg0at> i just wanna mount it
[04:27] <ChaosFan> s/trief/tried/
[04:27] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: Works fine here
[04:27] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: then midgetg0at can not mount his bin file. period
[04:27] <[GuS] > well.. after many test... ASUS K8N4-E will only boot with kernel option: pci=nommconf
[04:28] <lupine_85> well... assuming s/he's got the .cue as well, s/he could burn it to CD then read the iso back off of that... ;)
[04:28] <gigo> I have problem with Intel i915 grphic card and widescreen lcd...it runs in scaled 1024x768
[04:28] <midgetg0at> making is onw.
[04:28] <midgetg0at> *now
[04:29] <BlueVoid> anyone with a dual monitor solution?
[04:29] <midgetg0at> yip, i'm running dualies right nwo
[04:29] <midgetg0at> via nvidia 7900 gtx
[04:29] <user-land> hello, how do you remove red eyes from digital images ?
 well there must be some very specific combination of software that u must and must not have on the comp inorder for it to work
[04:29] <erUSUL> lupine_85: yes you are right
[04:29] <barongas> The only format of the boot disc I need is in imz, "zipped disc image", anyone know if it's possible to unzip and dd over to a floppy somehow?
[04:30] <midgetg0at> after it mounts, where am i suposed to see it....
[04:30] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: no. just bchunk
[04:30] <zm0> gigo: i have the same chip in my notebook, i use 915resolution to set my resolution to 1400x1050
[04:30] <lupine_85> make sure you feed it the correct options so it interprets the .bin correctly, and you're away
[04:30] <midgetg0at> ohh
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> lupine_85: well i have given up on it as has my mate and a training centre full of comps
[04:30] <midgetg0at> nm
[04:30] <midgetg0at> it worked
[04:30] <midgetg0at> sliggity
[04:30] <gigo> zm0: thanks, i will try it
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> 2 iso files
[04:31] <midgetg0at> yes, 2 iso's
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> same prob as me there you go lupine_85
[04:31] <lupine_85> the .bin obviously consists of 2 tracks, then...
[04:31] <lupine_85> ...which a normal data CD shouldn't
[04:31] <lupine_85> the bin is at fault, not bchunk ;)
[04:32] <lupine_85> (that, or you're feeding it the wrong options)
[04:32] <Flyoc> hi
[04:32] <gekko`> what's the default font of OOwriter?
[04:32] <lupine_85> last time I used it, I had some .bin files without any .cue (d'oh!); bchunk saved my bacon
 numerous bin cue files have always created 2 iso files 1 tiny and the other a lot smaller than original content buy at least 100mb
[04:33] <lupine_85> then maybe you're feeding it the wrong options?
[04:33] <Flyoc> why do I have a bunch of "drmOpenDevice: Open failed" related to my graphic card in Xorg.log ?
 when either is burned the cd doesnt work not even on the comp again
 bchunk in my eyes is a no go
[04:34] <lupine_85> those are your eyes, I guess :)
[04:34] <lupine_85> are there two tracks mentioned in the .cue ?
[04:34] <Paddy_EIRE> sat for hours on this channel numerous times with different people and yet the same results
[04:34] <lupine_85> bchunk does exactly what you tell it to - no more, no less.
[04:34] <lupine_85> with a valid .bin and .cue (I guessed mine), it works wonders
[04:34] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: but you can burn the cue/bin file directly why convert it?
yeah i knw i must be wrong and the dozen or so users and <midgetg0at> so yes just in my eyes ;)
[04:35] <lupine_85> that or you're all downloading the same dodgy .bin ;)
[04:35] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: i tolod midgetg0at to use bchunk only becouse he wanted to mount it in a loop device
[04:35] <iturk> hi there !! Is there anyone that uses google Earth. My is freezing during the logo screen. Did someone had the same problem or know any link that may help ??
if that was possible i would never have used bchunk
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> or sta trying to fiqure it out
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> *sat
[04:36] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: it is posible use cdrdao
[04:36] <Paddy_EIRE> yet those same files will burn perfect with nero on win which i hate
[04:36] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: man cdrdao
gonna look at this as i have not used this yet
[04:36] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: gnomebaker and k3b can burn .cue/.bin files perfectly
[04:37] <Paddy_EIRE> lupine_85> no it does not....hence trying to use bchunk
[04:38] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: "oh yes it does..." ;)
[04:38] <lupine_85> assuming that the files are sane
[04:38] <lupine_85> My guess is that this two-track malarky is some sort of copy protection
seeing is believing
[04:38] <Healot> !sane
[04:38] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[04:39] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: cdrdao write --eject --speed n --device /dev/hdxx filename.cue
 what about the bin file
[04:39] <lupine_85> so what was the .bin an image of...?
[04:39] <lupine_85> (the .cue references the .bin)!
 its a movie....win and nero burns straight away
[04:40] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: it should be filename.bin (the same filename) and it should work
[04:40] <lupine_85> so it's a VCD?
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> i believe ubuntu should to
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[04:40] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[04:40] <lupine_85> man chunk
[04:40] <lupine_85> look for option 'r'#
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[04:40] <lupine_85> erm, man bchunk
[04:40] <X-ray> hi guys
[04:40] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: i used it to burn a vcd i made from an avi file (ffmpeg + vcdimager)
[04:41] <Paddy_EIRE> i can believe i aint encountered you before
[04:41] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[04:41] <X-ray> anybody got experience with wifi from linksys on ubuntu?
[04:41] <lupine_85> hehe
[04:41] <lupine_85> X-ray: wusb54g version 4 is your best bet
[04:41] <X-ray> I guess so
[04:42] <opexoc> Can anybody help me with installation my mutlifunction HP printer?
[04:42] <X-ray> but
 so i have a movie in a folder with called fear.bin and fear.cue what should the line be
[04:42] <hc> hm, i can't start daemon-control with denyhosts
[04:42] <hc> stupid shit
[04:42] <X-ray> I got a wireless N adaptor
[04:42] <X-ray> which practicaly doens't even exist yet :(
[04:42] <thomsen_> does anyoone knows why my internet does'nt work? it recognizes everything (eth. card, etc) but dhclient says: "NO DHCPOFFERS received"
[04:42] <Paddy_EIRE> how to exit a man
[04:42] <Healot> !print
[04:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:42] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: cdrdao write --eject --speed n --device /dev/hdxx fear.cue
[04:43] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: 'q' quit
[04:43] <thomsen_> @healot: q
[04:43] <hc> can you guys help me with denyhosts?
[04:43] <hc> i followed the README.txt
[04:43] <hc> fixed the config
[04:43] <X-ray> lupine_85 mind if we discuss this PM?
[04:43] <geronimo> hello
as i said before it is fear.bin and fear.cue why do i just use the cue
[04:43] <X-ray> it's kinda chaotic in here lol
[04:43] <thomsen_> does anyoone knows why my internet does'nt work? it recognizes everything (eth. card, etc) but dhclient says: "NO DHCPOFFERS received"
[04:43] <geronimo> could anyone help me with a dsl connection problem?
its kilobytes in size??
[04:43] <hc> but i can't start daemon-control :(
[04:44] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: for bchunk it would be something like "bchunk -r fear.bin fear.cue fear"
[04:44] <lupine_85> and as I said before, .cue references .bin
[04:44] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: becouse the progam is wise enough to take the data from a file named like the cue but with bin extension
[04:44] <lupine_85> cat fear.cue and see what it says!
[04:44] <lupine_85> sorry X-ray, I'm off out now
[04:44] <thomsen_> does anyoone knows why my internet does'nt work? it recognizes everything (eth. card, etc) but dhclient says: "NO DHCPOFFERS received", please!
 so as long as they are in the same folder it should work
[04:44] <Healot> is the DHCP server running, thomsen_?
[04:44] <X-ray> lupine_85: :(
[04:44] <dabomb422> how do I register my nick here?
[04:45] <stonarmusic> is there a way to restart x without logging off?
[04:45] <geronimo> dabomb422: /msg nickserv helt
[04:45] <X-ray> startx
 <erUSUL> gonna try both your methods
[04:45] <geronimo> dabomb422: /msg nickserv help
[04:45] <erUSUL> thomsen_: it seems that there is no dhcp server in the net...
[04:45] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[04:45] <X-ray> stonarmusic: startx
[04:45] <X-ray> ow restart that is?
[04:45] <thomsen_> My provides says it's a dynamic IP..
[04:45] <X-ray> dno
[04:46] <ChaosFan> thomsen_: you use a dsl modem?
[04:46] <opexoc> Does anybody use hp-setup and have some problem when this program displays: NO device found ?
[04:46] <thomsen_> cable modem
[04:46] <geronimo> anyone here with a dsl connection?
[04:46] <thomsen_> without a router
[04:46] <hc> yeah
[04:46] <lupine_85> X-ray: the driver and config utility for wusb54g v4 you can get in the following repo: "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ dapper main" packages ralink-config and ralink-drivers-`uname -r`
[04:46] <lupine_85> now I really must go
[04:46] <geronimo> thomsen_: me too
[04:46] <hc> geronimo: i have :)
[04:46] <geronimo> hc: without router?
[04:46] <ChaosFan> thomsen_: i think you should use pppoe then ;)
[04:46] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DVD_to_VCD at the end of the page
[04:47] <manmadha> how to log in gaim as invisible mode at startup?
[04:47] <X-ray> lupine_85: isn't wusb54g for usb devices?
[04:47] <user-land> how do i start imagemagick ?
[04:47] <X-ray> lupine_85: cuz this one is pci
[04:48] <thomsen_> Chaosfan: I don't think so, the router outputs a normal ethernet cable wich fits in my card (on the motherboard)
[04:48] <manmadha> how to log in gaim as invisible mode at startup?
[04:48] <krazykit> user-land: the binaries are convert and a few others i don't recall.
[04:48] <ChaosFan> thomsen_: i thought without a router?
[04:48] <user-land> krazykit, how can i start it up ?
[04:48] <thomsen_> oh sorry, i'm bit confused, i mean the modem ;)
[04:48] <ChaosFan> yeah
[04:49] <ChaosFan> pppoe means point to point over ethernet
[04:49] <manmadha> how to log in gaim as invisible mode at startup?
[04:49] <ChaosFan> so-t-say your pc connects to the modem via ethernet, and that does ppp
[04:49] <manmadha> any one help me?
 when i ran bchunk -r fear.bin fear.cue fear it started to create the very same 2 iso's that it did before
[04:49] <thomsen_> on another pc i've got the same provider and connection (eth0, not ppp) but with a router between pc and modem, and there it works
[04:50] <manmadha> any one help me?
[04:50] <ChaosFan> then i don't know
[04:50] <Healot> ask, manmadha
[04:51] <manmadha> Healot, how to log in gaim invisible mode?
[04:51] <X-ray> LOL
[04:52] <manmadha> what do u mean?
[04:52] <X-ray> excuse me... anyone know a wifi channel for linux?
[04:52] <X-ray> where I can get some help, cuz frankly I need some :[
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> wireless can be such a HUGE hassle.
[04:53] <X-ray> anyone experienced with it?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> google for your chipset/card/disrto - and hope to find others that got them working - is the best bet.
[04:53] <mastastealth> ive had my share of headaches...?
[04:53] <X-ray> prolly
this cli method is crazy is there not 1 single gui prog at all for converting bin cue to iso or burning them to cd/dvd imean its a little crazy like taking the long road for a shortcut :\
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> I ran cables - wireless was such a hassle
[04:54] <X-ray> this chan gives headaches
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Hmm
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> k3b can burn cue/bins - or so i hear.
[04:54] <mastastealth> what do you need X-ray?
[04:54] <X-ray> I need to get this Wireless-N card working
[04:54] <X-ray> pci
are they intentionally making it difficult if i dont sort this my mate wants xp back and its not looking good
[04:54] <mastastealth> ok, do u see it in in when you type: lspci ?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> wireless-n - aint that the new uber-wireless standard - thats not even a standard yet? :P
[04:55] <X-ray> Dr_Willis
[04:55] <X-ray> yes
[04:55] <X-ray> and no I don't see it as I'm in windows
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> X-ray,  where I wish you LOTS of Luck :P
no it does not
[04:55] <X-ray> lol
[04:55] <X-ray> that's perverse
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  ive seen many web sites that say it does.. perhaps it needs some extra tools installed
[04:55] <mastastealth> well, how are we suppose to fix it if you're in Windows :P
[04:55] <X-ray> just by asking :)
[04:56] <X-ray> now I know that command
[04:56] <X-ray> some others?
[04:56] <X-ray> like iwconf?
[04:56] <X-ray> or is it iwconfig?
[04:56] <mastastealth> yea
[04:56] <X-ray> I just read that somewhere
[04:56] <mastastealth> u might wanna print this page out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
i think ive just about read them all and get the same wrong not working answer its like they are stalling me until they get it "actually working"
[04:56] <X-ray> DAMN, stupid malfunctioning printer
[04:56] <X-ray> thx tho
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  whatever.. severak people in #kubuntu say they do it all the time.
[04:57] <X-ray> it's all about knowing the right words... LOL
its a major oversight on the ubuntu people to not make a prog like nero
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> severak people?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  go get the nero for linux.
[04:58] <mastastealth> whats wrong with k3b? or gnomebaker if u want a GTK app...
does it work....:\
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> the ubuntu guys are just packageing the various gnome tools. Im not sure of any actually NEW programs theyve made.
[04:58] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[04:58] <DarkAudit> mastastealth: besides Jorg being a major horse's butt? :)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Hawkwind in #kubuntu says he burns cue/bins every day...
[04:58] <archangelpetro> bloody hell, how difficult does it have to be to get nvidia drivers working on amd64
[04:59] <RogerRabb> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx was all I had to do for amd64
[04:59] <archangelpetro> lol i've done that
[04:59] <archangelpetro> but
[04:59] <archangelpetro> nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:59] <netdur> will ubuntu pr be released today?
[04:59] <archangelpetro> doesnt work
[04:59] <mastastealth> archangel, then just edit your xorg.conf manually?
[05:00] <archangelpetro> i tried
[05:00] <mastastealth> all it does is swap "nv" for "nvidia" iirc...
[05:00] <archangelpetro> aye
[05:00] <archangelpetro> i did that
[05:00] <mastastealth> ok, and so x doesn't start or something?
 will nero 7 premium work under wine
[05:00] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: unlikely... there is a nero for linux though.
[05:01] <X-ray> mastastealth thanx, I will give this a go :)
[05:01] <mastastealth> X-ray: good luck ^_^
[05:01] <gameover422> how would I install another Linux distro without burning a cd?
[05:01] <archangelpetro> oh wait.. i think i mistook the nature of nvidia-glx-config enable 's role
[05:01] <X-ray> I'll need it
[05:01] <archangelpetro> brb :P
[05:02] <mastastealth> Nero 7 throught Wine = Garbage? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=4428
 yeah but after buying that and it not working i think i would end up losing faith in linux which i really dont want to do....i mean installed nero 7 on other mates comp running xp then i copied my bin cue files plugged in external hdd right click the cue and choose burn with nero burning rom...viola it works...in linux alien language in cli then it dont work
[05:03] <krazykit> gameover422: depends.  debian-based distros can be installed with debootstrap, and redhat based ones their own...
[05:04] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: wow.  i thought that k3b burned bin/cue though, too
[05:04] <mastastealth> k3b DOES burn cue, I see it right here...
 i mean its of putting enough to use cli then only for it not to work :\ ... and me trying to advocate linux to people whats going on
try it, it wont work
[05:05] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: can't.  i have neither a bin/cue nor a working cd burner nor blank cds
i wish it did
[05:05] <habeeb> Anyone who knows how to install MAME on Ubuntu? :/
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> worked i mean
[05:05] <quagmyre> wow, this is really dissapointing that Ubuntu can't do the simple things needed... guess i will quit wasting my time with it and hope it grows up this decade
[05:06] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: track 1 is standard ISO9660. Track 2 is raw data
yes..
[05:06] <lupine_85> mounting a VCD image simply won't work, in windows or linux
[05:06] <lupine_85> burning it will
[05:06] <Paddy_EIRE> and what does that mean to a person used to right click burn
[05:06] <mastastealth> habeeb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222927&highlight=MAME
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> mastastealth,  :P thank you for verification.
[05:07] <lupine_85> ^ ^
[05:07] <justin_> lupine, You can mount VCD's ...
[05:07] <lupine_85> VCD images...?
[05:07] <justin_> Yeah, not from the system itself though --- with programs made for VCD's.
[05:08] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: dunno what to tell you.  i recall burning bin/cues in the past no problem with k3b, but this was a few years ago
[05:08] <lupine_85> (e.g. it's the data pointed to by mpegseq.dat)
 i already told you that the images have never worked they are broken or something....when i copy the images created by bchunk to external hdd and take to mates house nero fails..although nero will work with the bin cue files
[05:09] <justin_> Yeah in windows it is WINDVD, you do not need to burn the image - you can mount it from windows itself - as for Ubuntu, I am sure you could do the same somehow.. but how is the question ;)
[05:09] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: the first one is a 'real' ISO (possibly broken because of the -r flag). The second is raw data, possibly an MPEG stream
i wish that someone would make a screencast of them actually doing it to prove me wrong
[05:09] <lupine_85> try opening the second stream in totem or something
[05:09] <mastastealth> K3B help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218165
[05:09] <mastastealth> mentions cue/bin stuff, check that
[05:09] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: if i had a bin/cue, working cd burner, and blank cd, i'd make one for you.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> krazykit,  :P
well ive done it without the -r flag and personally think it does nothing but create the same 2 iso's
[05:10] <justin_> With bin/cue - all you need is a virtual drive - daemon tools :)
[05:10] <krazykit> Paddy_EIRE: i'll make a screencast for you in 3 weeks when i get my laptop back
[05:10] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: you haven't actually read the man page, have you?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> krazykit,  then he will say youve faked them
[05:10] <mastastealth> lol
[05:11] <lupine_85> "-r        Makes  binchunker  output  MODE2/2352  tracks in raw format, from offset 0 for 2352"
[05:11] <justin_> Has anyone messed around with their radeon driver options in xorg.conf?
[05:11] <levander> There's no way to discuss wiki pages on wiki.ubuntu.com like there is on wikipedia?
[05:11] <mastastealth> Paddy_EIRE: have you TRIED gnomebacker? http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/v2/
sitting looking at it now, thats ok for me... but apart from that linux is not for a windows user
[05:11] <justin_> Especially - Pageflipping and EXA?
[05:11] <lupine_85> well, obviously :)
*sign* yes
[05:11] <levander> There's something I think is wrong on a page, and would like to make a note of it, but don't care to test it here to make sure it's wrong.
[05:12] <krazykit> levander: what's wrong on what page?
[05:13] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: the reason it's easier in windows is because the system was *designed* in windows ;)
im not giving up but i do believe that in some circumstances like those mentioned issues cli is a step back
[05:13] <lupine_85> but you still haven't said whether you can play the second track in totem or not
[05:13] <lupine_85> feel free to build a frontend to bchunk if you want one
and bchunk wasnt designed in linux nor k3b nor gnomebaker ;)
[05:14] <lupine_85> indeed :)
[05:14] <levander> krazykit: not that it's a big deal, but the SSL section on  #ubuntu
 There's something I think is wrong on a page, and would like to
[05:14] <levander> 	   make a note of it, but don't care to test it here to make sure it's
[05:14] <levander> 	   wrong.
 levander: what's wrong on what page?
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[05:14] <Shish> ... why does edgy want me to remove sysvinit? o_o;;
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[05:14] <krazykit> levander: uh...
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 Paddy_EIRE: the reason it's easier in windows is because the
[05:14] <levander> 	    system was *designed* in windows ;)
[05:14] <levander> ERC> krazykit: not that it's a big deal, but the SSL section on help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot - I'm sure you don't have to do that disable_plaintext_auth line in dovecot.conf, it's not a big deal, but does make your dovecot config less secure
[05:14] <lupine_85> Shish: check in #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <yacek19> hi
[05:14] <levander> fuck, sorry
[05:14] <Pntkl> hi
[05:14] <tbaur> sup?
[05:14] <lupine_85> !language
[05:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:14] <schitzo> hi
[05:14] <Shish> lupine_85: thanks~
[05:15] <levander> krazykit: not that it's a big deal, but the SSL section on help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot - I'm sure you don't have to do that disable_plaintext_auth line in dovecot.conf, it's not a big deal, but does make your dovecot config less secure
[05:15] <krazykit> levander: yeah, watch that copy/paste stuff
[05:15] <rbil> Thinkpad T22 and microphone probs ... can anyone help?
so linux philosophy is take the long road for a shortcut then pull your hair out because we didnt make the prog for you
[05:15] <yacek19> when I install ubuntu in server mode, will the installation download newest apache and mysql or will it use these versions on install cd?
[05:15] <levander> krazykit: yeah, sorry, i'm using emacs, that's the 3rd damn times that's happened to me in the last couple of months
[05:15] <tbaur> ??
[05:15] <schitzo> out of interest
[05:15] <Pntkl> I'll think about it
[05:15] <lupine_85> no, the linux philosophy is to do things as simply as possible
[05:15] <lupine_85> one tool, one job
[05:15] <krazykit> levander: you could just append your question/comment right after the section and ask for verification
[05:16] <lupine_85> the Windows philosophy is to have monolithic applications which do lots of things (=bloat)
basically unless you developed the program its futile to try....this bin/cue prob has taken weeks...now thats crazy
[05:16] <levander> krazykit: okay, i'm doing it, but you're checking it after I do to see how dumb it looks
[05:16] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: can you pastebin the .cue file?
yeah....but they work annoyingly
[05:16] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: such things take weeks because there are a lot more people around telling what should work in what way than really implementing them
[05:16] <Paddy_EIRE> lupine_85> no probs
[05:16] <lupine_85> from a Windows PoV ;)
[05:17] <levander> krazykit: damn, have to run and the ubuntu.com servers are slow again
[05:17] <Kragnerac> Bah, Windows... :P
[05:17] <levander> krazykit: next time
[05:17] <lupine_85> from a Linux PoV, the Windows Way(tm) is also annoying
[05:17] <lupine_85> it's a mindset thing
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22824
[05:19] <ton> i check in my log somethings about martin source 192.168.2.1 from 192.168.2.177 on dev eth0 printk 5 messages supressed what does it mean ?
[05:19] <Linuturk_code> I don't mind the windows way so much lupine_85, but my wallet does
 dont get me wrong i love linux but this making thing down right impossible by any one other than a cli junkie or programmer attitude is what is wrong with it
[05:20] <lupine_85> ...to a windows thinker, yes :)
[05:20] <ks> hey guys
[05:20] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: the one who creates the software decides the interface...
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> ive seen this argument befor also.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:20] <WinterWolf> hello, i got a quick question, if i want to change the boot order, ex now will it boot ubuntu if i don't thouch any keys. i want it to boot win if i don't touch any key
[05:20] <ks> need your help
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt go with 'flexibility'
[05:20] <Kragnerac> Meh, Linux is an operating system that lots of people belive to be CLI only, yet the GUI (when with XGL/AIGLX + Compiz) is a lot slicker than Windows Vista. :P
[05:20] <ChaosFan> if he thinks he doesn'y want to do a gui it's his decision
[05:20] <ks> i've got this error:  09:09:42,026 ERROR [org.alfresco.smb.protocol]  File server configuration error, Failed to get IP address(es) for the local server, check hosts file and/or DNS setup
[05:20] <ChaosFan> if you think you want a gui then you can do it on your own
[05:20] <ks> currently i have only 127.0.0.1               localhost localhost.localdomain localhost in /etc/hosts
[05:20] <ChaosFan> most of the people creating that stuff work for free, after all
[05:21] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah im just frustrated at the fact its taken weeks for me to arrive at nowhere in win which I HATE it works and it dont take weeks for an answer
[05:21] <ChaosFan> but here, you _personally_ can change that situation
[05:21] <gameover422> every time I run configure, I get this error message:
[05:22] <gameover422> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22825
[05:22] <quiet> oooo... just installed the lastest serengeti usplash... VERY NICE...
[05:22] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: I think Ubuntu's one of the amny projects working to change that.
 i just cant seem to think of 1 reason that right click burn then appropriate app open is wrong???
[05:22] <spc> ChaosFan: not necessarily true, though it's a very good point and the big strength of GNU/Linux.
[05:22] <ton> i check in my log somethings about martin source 192.168.2.1 from 192.168.2.177 on dev eth0 printk 5 messages supressed what does it mean ?
im in for the long haul even if the image never works :)
[05:22] <krazykit> gameover422: sounds like something is missing.  did you install build-essential?
[05:22] <spc> ChaosFan: he may not be able to personnally fix it.
[05:23] <ChaosFan> spc: everyone has the freedom and the right to participate. if one doesn't use it, not the community is to blame
never learnt so much before not even in windows
[05:23] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: what's your original problem?
i know but i aint a programmer
[05:23] <gameover422> krazykit: no, do I need it?
[05:23] <krazykit> yes
[05:23] <spc> ChaosFan: depends on what the goal of the community is.  Most people are not programmers, nor should they be (someone has to make the food and other physical things we use)
[05:23] <ChaosFan> well, then what about writing howtos and stuff about things you've already done? ;)
i have to become a programmer in order to burn a cd/dvd out of bi/cue files is that what everyone is telling me?
[05:24] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: no.
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> yeas
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> *yes
[05:24] <spc> ChaosFan: also, some people can contribute by mocking up good user interface, or even just pointing out what makes a program difficult to use
[05:24] <Paddy_EIRE> apparently
[05:24] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: but to burn a cd, you don't need linux
[05:24] <rbil> Thinkpad T22 ... microphone not working ... can anyone help? Or does this channel just talk about philosophy?
[05:24] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: i do not think that using a console app is 'becoming a programer'
 the option to use zero cli
[05:25] <krazykit> rbil: not just philosophy, but it's easy to get off topic ;-)
[05:25] <spc> rbil: depends on if anyone here knows about microphones - I don't
[05:25] <ChaosFan> spc: right for sure. that's basically like writing a howto. something you don't need special education for
[05:25] <Craigo> !freenx
[05:25] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:25] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: yes, bchunk is doing exactly what it should be doing
[05:26] <lupine_85> it's creating 2 images
[05:26] <Craigo> hrm.. anyone using freenx?
 there is no need when i can obviously right click burn in most other os...mac,win
[05:26] <spc> erUSUL: it can be darn close.
[05:26] <lupine_85> the first is a minimal ISO9660 fs... the second is the raw MPEG data, by the looks of it
[05:26] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: if you want to be able you need to use an os that lets you do it
so what am i to do with 2 iso files
[05:27] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: if you want to do lots of customization, or different power user things, there's no way around CLI.  It's less true in Windows than Linux, but even in Windows it's true.
[05:27] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: linux never claimed to be windows, nor OS X, it's a different thing, handling certain aspects different
 what am i to do with a 634kb image
[05:27] <erUSUL> spc: then linux/unix is not for you... ;)
not a very long film
[05:27] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: luckily, CLI is really powerful.  Unluckily, it's ridiculously hard to learn.  That's the whole point of a GUI, and we wouldn't have a computer in every home (in many countries) without a GUI.
[05:27] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: the second iso is 634KB ?
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> and if i burn the 800mb image it just plain doesnt work
[05:28] <ChaosFan> spc: but not every OS _wants_ to be used in every home
[05:28] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: that's because the 800mb .bin is raw CD data
[05:28] <ChaosFan> nor is every OS meant to be
[05:28] <justin_> Heh, I forget what is the default AGP aperture size - 128mb ram right?
[05:28] <rbil> goodbye. can see this irc channel IS NOT a support channel. Cheers!
[05:28] <spc> erUSUL: i disagree.  Nor did I say I personally have a problem with programming.  I'm just saying I want my wife to be able to use Ubuntu, and there'sn o way in a hot place she's going to learn CLI.
[05:28] <spc> ChaosFan: that's not a goal of Ubuntu?
i agree but i cant see why this cant be addressed i like having the option not to use cli as much as possible
[05:29] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: ubuntu is working in that direction
[05:29] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: but as you can see, there is a lot of things that still need to be done
although apt-get is the right idea not alot to remember there
[05:30] <sktx> is there a way to play video in console mode without starting X?
[05:30] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: I just saw something earlier today about a tutorial for burning ISO files.  I can't remember where - might have been a video tutorial.  have you searched on ubuntu's site?
where can i learn the correct type of programming to get involved with this
[05:30] <ChaosFan> sktx: mplayer -vo aa
[05:30] <Mc-Tom> hi
[05:30] <ChaosFan> stgraber: or mplayer -vo caca for color
[05:30] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: you're trying to burn an 800 MB image? how big is your disk?  CD-Rs are usually only 700 MB I thought.
[05:30] <ChaosFan> args
[05:30] <ChaosFan> StK: was for you
[05:30] <gameover422> krazykat: thanks for the help
[05:30] <sktx> hehe
[05:30] <lupine_85> spc: it's a vcd .cue/bin
[05:31] <ChaosFan> args
using a dvd
[05:31] <krazykit> gameover422: it worked? :-D
[05:31] <sktx> ChaosFan: thanks man, i'll try it
[05:31] <Mc-Tom> guys, I cant decide whether to get ubuntu
[05:31] <Mc-Tom> what are the actual advantages of it?
[05:31] <sktx> Mc-Tom: yes.
[05:31] <ChaosFan> sktx: looks funny, though
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> oh and if i mount the image it still dont play although mplayer will play the bin
[05:31] <krazykit> Mc-Tom: compared to ?
[05:31] <sktx> ChaosFan: how so?
[05:31] <Mc-Tom> windows
[05:31] <krazykit> Mc-Tom: for what purpose?
[05:31] <ChaosFan> sktx: it's ascii-art
[05:31] <justin_> No one knows what the default bios setting for AGP aperture setting is? - im pretty sure it was 128mb... :))
[05:31] <sktx> !?
[05:32] <sktx> really?
[05:32] <ChaosFan> yep
[05:32] <TLE> Mc-Tom: It's brown and has a friendly community ;)
[05:32] <justin_> I had mine set at 928mb haha
[05:32] <Mc-Tom> games/word processing/assorted other stuff
[05:32] <Craigo> Hmm anyone tried to install FreeNX? It seems to hang :/
[05:32] <sktx> lol
[05:32] <krazykit> justin_: yeah, that's too big.  it was either 64 or 128.  i honestly don't recall
[05:32] <spc> lupine_85: heh.  I only partially understood what you said.  .cue/bin?
[05:32] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: thanks for clarifying.  I'll be quiet now.  ;)
[05:32] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: from nearly every book about programming with yourself willing to learn and to take the time it needs
[05:33] <justin_> krazykit: Yeah I would like to set "bios default" but.. that will change all my tweaking and I do not want that... i'll go ask a graphic room
[05:33] <pajares> hola a todos busca xica norma
[05:33] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: but you can also participate by sending bugfixes, comments and so on
[05:33] <Mc-Tom> cos I get the feeling if i do get it most of my games and other programs wont work
[05:33] <Craigo> hmm
 sorry which native ubuntu lingo should i use to break myself into
[05:33] <spc> Mc-Tom: the first advantage is that you can try it for free, without installing anything.  I'd say just give it a shot - the biggest advantage is that you'll be wiser.
[05:33] <sktx> ChaosFan: that's interesting... but there's nothing that can show decent quality video on the console? needs X to change the video mode?
[05:33] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: there is no such thing like a native ubuntu lingo
[05:33] <Mc-Tom> spc: well that is a good advantage :)
[05:33] <krazykit> sktx: no, there's an fb-output for mplayer
[05:34] <Craigo> freenx for ubuntu dapper is broken
[05:34] <Craigo> Blah
[05:34] <lupine_85> hmm. Paddy_EIRE: maybe http://www.vcdgear.com/ would help you
[05:34] <ChaosFan> sktx: perhaps via framebuffer, but haven't tried that zet
[05:34] <ChaosFan> yet
[05:34] <Mc-Tom> with the windows emulators, do they run most things that require windows or only very few?
well which is easy to get my teeth into
[05:34] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: You want to get better at CLI?  I'd just take one task at a time, and figure out how to do it.  Find a tutorial or how-to and go from there.
[05:34] <sktx> hrmm
[05:34] <gameover422> krazykit: perfect.  thanks so much
[05:34] <lupine_85> looks like it's a GUI for what you want to do
[05:34] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: for CLI or programming? ;)
nice one man
[05:35] <krazykit> Mc-Tom: eh... kinda.  WINE can be flaky at times.  usually you'll find replacement apps anyway.
[05:35] <lupine_85> linux has everything :)
 what did u use for the cli learning
[05:35] <sktx> except modplug tracker :(
[05:35] <Mc-Tom> krazykit: not for games ;)
[05:35] <TLE> Mc-Tom, weel for games, noooo advantages, :: what other software are you thinking about, is it specific windows software, or just specific tasks ?
[05:35] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: learning CLI is basically a trial and error thing :)
[05:35] <Mc-Tom> erm..
[05:35] <krazykit> Mc-Tom: no, games are flaky.  you can dual-boot for that if you really want
[05:36] <Mc-Tom> krazykit: yeah, thats what i was thinking about
[05:36] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: i forced myself to try to do everything by cli, googling for howtos if i didn't know how to start
[05:36] <lupine_85> sort of a mix of learning BASH scripting, and the options for individual programs
[05:36] <Faithful> I have heard reports of considerable speed increases under 2.6.17 are the roumors true?
[05:36] <spc> ah, this is better!
[05:36] <lupine_85> "man" is your friend
[05:36] <Mc-Tom> what is it like for things like word processing and things like excel and powerpoint?
[05:36] <spc> (I was vnc'ing from my windows work box, but it's too hard to follow chat that way)
[05:36] <krazykit> Faithful: yeah, i think so.  my computer booted a lot faster with 2.6.17... but i was using a custom kernel, too.
ok i dont even know how to delete/rename move a file in a straight forward way
[05:36] <ompaul> Mc-Tom, you want openoffice it is preinstalled
[05:37] <krazykit> Faithful: and technically, i was running 2.6.18-rc6-ck1 ;-)
[05:37] <sktx> maybe Mc-Tom should try zsh to start out with?  the advanced completion and nifty scripting might be a little easier for someone just starting out
[05:37] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: what I've done is learned a basic set of commands, and worked from those on specific tasks.
[05:37] <erUSUL> !commands
[05:37] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:37] <spc> Are you familiar with dos?  How about the "man" command?
[05:37] <ompaul> Mc-Tom, applications office and have a look in there
[05:37] <Mc-Tom> sktx: zsh?
[05:37] <erUSUL> !commands > Paddy_EIRE
[05:37] <sktx> Mc-Tom: it's a shell
[05:37] <ompaul> !CLI > Paddy_EIRE
[05:37] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: if you want, pm me and I'll share what I think are the "getting started" commands.  :)
[05:37] <Mc-Tom> aha
[05:37] <sktx> Mc-Tom: normally, ubuntu installs with the bash shell
[05:37] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: you don't happen to speak german, do you? ;)
[05:38] <brittney> ive isntalled a prog to /opt/bin how do i set the PATH for it for future users and current users?
[05:38] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, have a check of the  urls that the bot has sent you
[05:38] <sktx> Mc-Tom: but i use zsh ... i can't really compare the two in a lot of areas, because i didn't use bash for very long
man pages make little or no sense is there somewhere which has a man page in a more descriptive way
 lol
[05:38] <spc> Mc-Tom: there's no generic answer, even for office suites.  It depends on how complex the documents you use are.
[05:38] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, I feel your pain.
[05:38] <ChaosFan> Paddy_EIRE: it's just that one of the best sources on that topic i know is only available in german ;)
 just Irish and english mate
[05:38] <lupine_85> ompaul: PATH=/bin/opt:$PATH
[05:39] <mikeconcepts> !easysource
[05:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:39] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: I think there's an online version of man, but really your best bet is to look for specific help on a given command.
[05:39] <lupine_85> stick it in ~/.bashrc
[05:39] <Mc-Tom> ok, well what are the advantages in general of using linux over windows? :)
[05:39] <brittney> luipne does that save the path for a reboot?
[05:39] <ompaul> lupine_85, hell?
[05:39] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: for example, I wanted to know what the different colors mean when you do an "ls" command (like dir, for directory).
[05:39] <lupine_85> brittney: if it's in your .bashrc, yes
[05:39] <ChaosFan> Mc-Tom: depends on what you're using a computer for
[05:39] <ompaul> lupine_85, hello even
[05:39] <lupine_85> hi :)
[05:39] <Mc-Tom> atm im thinking of one of my hard drives being games and windows, one on linux for work
[05:40] <brittney> lupine_85, ok but how do i set that path for future users?
[05:40] <ompaul> lupine_85, for this you get hell/hello ;-)  <lupine_85> ompaul: PATH=/bin/opt:$PATH
[05:40] <spc> Mc-Tom: free, you can customize or modify ANYTHING to do exactly what you want, don't have to worry about Windows viruses
[05:40] <lupine_85> stick it in etc/skel/.bashrc ?
[05:40] <Mc-Tom> whats it like for making webpages and thinks like that?
[05:40] <brittney> thnx
[05:40] <spc> Mc-Tom: community support, control (unlike Windows), no registry, safer (not running as admin all the time)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> that would be for newly created users. in SKEL
[05:41] <Mc-Tom> spc: the no viruses thing is a very good attraction :)
[05:41] <lupine_85> ompaul: ah, right. I mixed up two lines - that was actually at brittney :)
ok I dont think this image is ever gonna get burned until someone if not myself fiqure out how to programme so its getting deleted and i wont use the format again until linux knows what different tasks it can do otherwise im taking up room
[05:41] <ChaosFan> Mc-Tom: there are several editors for such things, but no "best" one as everyone stresses different aspects ;)
[05:41] <lupine_85> (you posted right after her, and I conflated the two lines)
[05:41] <Mc-Tom> chaosfan: ok
[05:41] <ton> what does martian source mean ? i checked it in log
[05:42] <Mc-Tom> I'm thinking linux being so flexible may take a bit of getting used to :)
 gonna do some reading i think cheers guys....you all helped cool me of very good feel about ubuntu and all its users, Great stuff guys
[05:42] <spc> Mc-Tom: yes indeed.  I think the general lack of spyware, viruses, et cetera is a very good reason.  Plus you learn a lot more about computing and the web (since most of it runs on linux), so it's a good resume builder.
[05:42] <ChaosFan> Mc-Tom: that rings very true ;)
[05:42] <spc> Paddy_EIRE: good luck.  I don't have time to search right now, but I'm sure the answer is out there.
[05:42] <sktx> Mc-Tom: it takes a little while
[05:42] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: if burning to DVD, your best bet would have been getting the raw MPEG stream (using that program), then burning it as a movie to the DVD player
[05:42] <ChaosFan> Mc-Tom: and if you want to, you may watch nearly all things how they work internally
[05:42] <krazykit> hum... the zsh shell is neat
[05:42] <der0b> mc-tom: I'm a newbie, so I don't know what a few of these guys know but here's what I've found.  First, there's choice, you can choose a desktop env that makes you happy.  there's a lot to choose from and it's fun to play with.  many of the applications tend to be of higher quality (though not all).  There's always something else to learn, and the users (ppl in this room for example) tend to be helpful and patient.  (this is just the beginn
[05:43] <lupine_85> e.g. something like dvdauthor
[05:43] <sktx> Mc-Tom: but after you start to get into the swing of it and get comfortable, going back to windows is like being stuck in traffic after four-wheeling in an open field.
[05:43] <Mc-Tom> der0b: yeah, the community is good
lol.....i wish i knew what process was involved in doing that, the bin/cue file is all i have of it and its now been deleted
[05:43] <TLE> Mc-Tom: For me the best thing about Ubuntu, and Linux in general is choise. If I don't like the way a certain piece of software does things, well then I can always try another, and there's almost always one that suits your needs and taste :: like der0b said ..!
[05:44] <lupine_85> well, you said you could play "something" in mplayer... that was your raw mPEG stream
[05:44] <ompaul> Mc-Tom, are you not using it yet?
[05:44] <spc> sorry, got to go.  Major issues at work.
[05:44] <der0b> I've been using linux since feb, I only go back to windows for my ftp server and financial software (trying to find a new financial app now)
[05:44] <lupine_85> dvdauthor would have written that as a DVD movie to a DVD, once converted into the correct format
[05:44] <modplug> glxgears hangs my computer... what can i do to assure that my gfx is correct?
[05:44] <Paddy_EIRE> of to google my brains out,  will be back if i need anything specific explained only after i have read and kow what im asking first
[05:44] <krazykit> modplug: glxinfo|grep render
[05:44] <lupine_85> :)
[05:44] <Mc-Tom> ompaul: no, downloading .iso atm
[05:45] <kaolti> i want to run quake 2 on ubuntu and when i ./configure it says it need SDL 1.01
[05:45] <krazykit> modplug: it should say "direct rendering = yes"
[05:45] <modplug> krazykit... and this won't hang the computer?
[05:45] <krazykit> modplug: no
[05:45] <kaolti> where can i get it?
[05:45] <kaolti> anyone knows?
[05:45] <GrumpyPiano> Anyone know how I can enable DMA? :(
[05:45] <modplug> it says no
[05:45] <der0b> are there any guides for slimming ubuntu down?  I'd like to kill off services I don't need, like LVM (if I can) and bluetooth
[05:45] <krazykit> kaolti: sounds like you're building it.  you'll need the sdl-dev packages
[05:45] <krazykit> der0b: as a matter of fact, yes.  on sec
[05:46] <der0b> nice
[05:46] <krazykit> der0b: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[05:46] <der0b> thanks krazykit, checking it out :)
[05:46] <TLE> GrumpyPiano: I'm pretty sure that's in the wiki, let me have a look
[05:46] <modplug> krazykit: i don't have direct rendering
[05:46] <GrumpyPiano> Great thanks
[05:46] <krazykit> der0b: i rather like that guide.  just remember: when in doubt, don't touch it
[05:46] <sktx> der0b: i just read a nice one about setting up which services run at which init levels
[05:46] <ompaul> Mc-Tom, treat it like changing cars the gear stick might be a different arrangement, as the driving seat levers but it will get you there just the same get comfortable and you will enjoy it
[05:46] <krazykit> modplug: indeed.  you'll want to get it working then.
[05:47] <erUSUL> der0b: 'sudo update-rc.d -f lvm remove''sudo update-rc.d -f evms remove'
[05:47] <modplug> yeah, any hints?
[05:47] <sktx> der0b: search the forums for "sysv-rc-conf"
[05:47] <krazykit> modplug: ati or nvidia?
[05:47] <kaolti> krazykit: where can i get those?
[05:47] <krazykit> kaolti: apt.
[05:47] <sktx> modplug: your use modplug tracker?
[05:47] <kaolti> apt-get?
[05:47] <sktx> s/your/you
[05:47] <Mc-Tom> ok, im off to try this out, wish me luck :)
[05:47] <TLE> GrumpyPiano: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:47] <ChaosFan> Mc-Tom: have fun ;)
[05:47] <sktx> Mc-Tom: Good luck :)
[05:47] <kaolti> krazykit: apt-get install sdl-dev?
[05:47] <GrumpyPiano> TLE: Thanks a lot dude :)
[05:47] <modplug> sktx: yeah i used to
[05:47] <TLE> GrumpyPiano: Just went to wiki and searched for DMA
[05:48] <modplug> krazykit... nvidia
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> kaolti,  you mean COMPILE quake2 ?
[05:48] <der0b> wow, that's nice, the service explanations are just what I need, thanksto all :)
[05:48] <sktx> modplug: yeah i've been trying to get it to work in ubuntu under wine
[05:48] <kaolti> yes i have the source
[05:48] <sktx> modplug: but so far no luck
[05:48] <sktx> der0b: glad to help
[05:48] <kaolti> oh sorry its not q2 its another game
[05:49] <kaolti> q2 gives me Error: Couldn't fall back to software refresh!
[05:49] <kaolti> krazykit: apt-get install sdl-dev doesnt work
[05:49] <Trinisan> Ques: where can i find the torrent page for ubuntu
[05:50] <IcemanV9> anyone, how come i cannot read some characters? it gave me a tiny box with four letters/numbers inside. it is all over my system; not just xchat or firefox. how do i fix it? change my default language?
[05:50] <kaolti> krazykit: can u help?
[05:51] <krazykit> kaolti: well, that's not the package.  search synaptic for sdl, and install the -dev packages.  lemme see which one you likely want
[05:51] <erUSUL> IcemanV9: the font(s) you are using doesn't have all the needed characters... which is your language?
[05:51] <modplug> krazykit... what to with an nvidia card?
[05:51] <IcemanV9> erUSUL: en(US)
[05:51] <gameover422> when I run configure, I get this error:
[05:51] <gameover422> configure: error: Missing header file ffmpeg/avcodec.h.
[05:52] <krazykit> ubotu: tell modplug about nvidia
[05:52] <krazykit> kaolti: probably libsdl1.2-dev
[05:52] <kaolti> krazykit: im downloading it from the libSDL site now
[05:52] <IcemanV9> erUSUL: i've tried system > admin > language support. it does not resolve the problem. i must be looking at the wrong place.
[05:53] <krazykit> gameover422: sounds like you need libavcodec-dev
[05:53] <k31th> any of you guys use and ide for perl ?
[05:53] <krazykit> kaolti: uh, no... use apt.
[05:53] <modplug> krazykit... the problem is when i run the command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:53] <erUSUL> IcemanV9: well that's very weird english only need the ascii character set. i don't konw what can be wrong...
[05:53] <krazykit> modplug, kaolti i have to run now, actually
[05:53] <kaolti> krazykit: np thanks for the help
[05:53] <modplug> damn.. well thanks for the help
[05:54] <krazykit> kaolti: but you're downloading the source now.  you'll want to use apt/synaptic to get the -dev headers.  i think there's a build-info page around.
[05:54] <brent_> is there any way to set an ogg file to be my login sound?  It says that it is not a valid wav file, but that seems silly that it won't use an ogg as a login sound
[05:55] <kaolti> krazykit: i jsut apt-get install libsdl as u libsd1.2 -dev and it works
[05:55] <yetifoot> anyone know what 'DM is set to off' means in ppp talk? google is being unhelpful
[05:55] <krazykit> kaolti: hopefully
[05:55] <orcdestroyer> # chmod 444 /etc/hosts.allow
[05:55] <orcdestroyer> # chmod 444 /etc/securetty
[05:55] <orcdestroyer> # chmod 444 /etc/ftpusers
[05:55] <orcdestroyer> # chmod 444 /etc/sudoers
[05:55] <orcdestroyer> # chmod 440 /etc/passwd
[05:55] <orcdestroyer> # chmod 440 /etc/groups
[05:55] <orcdestroyer> hello
[05:55] <ompaul> orcdestroyer, what was that?
[05:56] <orcdestroyer> I give permission to some users... but know I want to remove that permission
[05:56] <IcemanV9> erUSUL: i need to enable UT8 somehow. :/ i'll look thru (again) ubuntuforums (slow response) & google.
[05:56] <IcemanV9> !paste > orcdestroyer
[05:56] <RuarriS> does anyone know how to install the linux-source-modules-2.6.15-26-k7
[05:56] <yokobr> hi
[05:56] <yokobr> please
[05:56] <orcdestroyer> ompaul can you help me?
[05:57] <yokobr> im trying to resize my ubuntu partition by qparted and i cant!
[05:57] <bilss_> hi
[05:57] <lupine_85> RuarriS: surely the modules are in the normal source package?
[05:57] <yokobr> im booting on live cd, then i run qparted
[05:57] <RuarriS> does anyone know how to install the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-k7
[05:57] <yokobr> and i cant resize
[05:57] <RuarriS> lupine_85 it says they're not available
[05:57] <yokobr> apt-get install  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-k7
[05:58] <lupine_85> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-k7 - Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on AMD K7
[05:58] <yokobr> try to add more repositories
[05:58] <erUSUL> IcemanV9: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf'
[05:58] <bilss_> there is no sound in dapper I had a server with no X but now have fluxbox
[05:58] <der0b> yokobr: I'm just guessing, but are you running 'sudo gparted'?
[05:58] <der0b> *sudo qparted
[05:58] <ompaul> orcdestroyer, well there is no groups there is group it has the permissions: -rw-r--r-- as do they all apart from sudoers which has -r--r-----
[05:58] <yokobr> nope, is not that.... because i was able to format and delete the partition
[05:59] <RuarriS> yokobr; it says that its missing or obsoleted in the repository
[05:59] <bilss_> ompaul: afternoon
[05:59] <yokobr> der0b
[05:59] <fuuz> sorry...what is the terminal command to show a specific folders contents
[05:59] <erUSUL> fuuz: ls
[05:59] <orcdestroyer> ompaul and how can I delete some sudoers ?
[05:59] <fyrestrtr> ls foldername
[05:59] <lupine_85> ls -la for full details
[05:59] <fuuz> thanx!
[05:59] <bilss_> where to get audio drivers ?
[06:00] <erUSUL> orcdestroyer: take them off the admin group
[06:00] <yokobr> the problem is not "sudo" qparted....because i can delete and format it
[06:00] <erUSUL> bilss_: alsa-project.org iirci
[06:00] <yokobr> got it?
[06:00] <der0b> I got it, and that means I'm out of ideas.
[06:00] <der0b> sorry
[06:00] <ompaul> orcdestroyer, for the   660 rw files and 440 for the r files and sudo visudo is how you edit the sudoers file
[06:00] <lupine_85> yokobr: if you've got a deteled and reformatted partition, why are you trying to resize it?
[06:00] <RuarriS> yokobr it says that This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[06:01] <lupine_85> just delete it again and create 2 new ones
[06:01] <Dr_Willis>  formated then deleted?
[06:01] <bilss_> erUSUL; Thanks I have dapper with fluxbox as X should audio have been installed by default?
[06:02] <yokobr> nope, i can format and delete, but i want to resize
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> bilss_,  audio stuff should be working - yes.
[06:02] <IcemanV9> erUSUL: no go. when i opened app > access > char map, still cannot read some characters. :/ blah. i'll figure it out later.
[06:02] <IcemanV9> erUSUL: thks though. :)
[06:02] <yokobr> i dont want to lose everything again
[06:02] <erUSUL> bilss_: i do not know... try to install everything related to alsa...
[06:02] <ljesh> hello, how can i update GAIM?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> yokobr,  you are not resizing a mounted partition are you?
[06:02] <erUSUL> IcemanV9: good luck
[06:02] <yokobr> nope, it was not mounted
[06:03] <lupine_85> ...after making a backup!
[06:03] <bilss_> erUSUL: whats the command line to install say alsa please?
[06:04] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: alsa is installed by default unless you do a expert install.
[06:04] <erUSUL> bilss_: hold on a minute...
[06:04] <yokobr> i dont want to install again because ive lost much time to get it as it is.
[06:04] <yokobr> i just want to resize it
[06:04] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: no it was ubuntu with fluxbox and then i upgraded to dapper
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> yokobr,  I think you need to begin at the begining again..    What are you wanting to resize?
[06:05] <yokobr> ill try again on live cd....
[06:05] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: not a expert install
[06:05] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: have you already tried the wiki?
[06:05] <yokobr> i want to resize this partition, with ubuntu, running  my live cd and qparted
[06:05] <erUSUL> bilss_: try 'sudo apt-get alsa-base alsa-utils linux-sound-base'
[06:06] <Abst> Hey, when I click the exit icon in the top right corner it just logs me right off now, not giving me options to shutdown ect. Can I fix this?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> yokobr,  then you normally delete the adjacent partitions, then resize the one you want to keep.
[06:07] <bilss_> erUSUL: E: Invalid operation alsa-base
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> yokobr,  or to be safer. just mount the other space somewhere and move /home or whatever you want to it.
[06:08] <erUSUL> bilss_: try 'sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils linux-sound-base'
[06:08] <yokobr> nopeee
[06:09] <yokobr> i got 1 partition, with ubuntu, and 1 swap.
[06:09] <yokobr> just want to decrase my ubuntu partition
[06:09] <bilss_> erUSUL: all of them are the newest versions already insatlled
[06:09] <yokobr> to create another one
[06:09] <yokobr> blank
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> yokobr,  then what are you resizing? you  either have everyone confused.. or got some really weird stuff going on.
[06:10] <bilss_> whats the command line to install sound juicer?
[06:10] <manmadha> can any one tell how to install the themes of the desktop?
[06:10] <orcdestroyer> ompaul I give permission using chmod 440 /device/paste/
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> and know when I use sudo for some syntax... my system don't run it
[06:11] <yokobr> i want to resize my ubuntu partition, to get space to create another one...to install a distro that im developing
[06:11] <erUSUL> bilss_: try 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav' do you hear it?
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> I can't do nothing now
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> ompaul /etc/sudoers is mode 0444, should be 0440
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> this message show up
[06:11] <manmadha> can any one tell how to install the desktop themes??????
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> yokobr,  you should be able to boot a live cd with the different parted tools and shrink the existing partition. The only limits may be what filesystem you are using for the ubuntu partition.
[06:12] <ompaul> orcdestroyer, use a live cd to fix the permissions - I think you may have done more damage than you are telling us here
[06:12] <ompaul> orcdestroyer, for the   660 rw files and 440 for the r files and sudo visudo is how you edit the sudoers file
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> manmadha,  depends on the kind of theme. Themes are normally made of several 'componants" like the window decoration, icons, and gtk2 part.
[06:12] <yokobr> ext3 i think
[06:12] <yokobr> ill try
[06:12] <kaolti> how can i get zlib?
[06:12] <yokobr> thanx anyway
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> !info zlib
[06:12] <rmoremar> mi menseller ral@626.com
[06:12] <ubotu> Package zlib does not exist in any distro I know
[06:12] <rmoremar> oeuiwdeuifageswdhrtlfwiehuigfwehgtlifwe
[06:12] <rmoremar> ftefyuegfhehuhfueufu
[06:12] <rmoremar> kfieyufheufhwe
[06:13] <kaolti> !zlib
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zlib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <kaolti> !info zlib
[06:13] <ubotu> Package zlib does not exist in any distro I know
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> try apt-cache search zlib
[06:13] <manmadha> Dr_Willis, http://themes.freshmeat.net/redir/icecrack/36953/url_tgz/icecrack-default-2.1.0.tar.gz i have downloaded this theme can u plz tell me how to install it??
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> i saw it in there the other day
[06:13] <manmadha> Dr_Willis, it is 1mb size only...
[06:13] <bilss_> erUSUL: look at this please http://pastebin.ca/163490
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> manmadha,  but what kind of theme is it..  :P gtk2? metacity?
[06:14] <erUSUL> bilss_: your sound card is not properly detected by the kernel. which one do you have?
[06:15] <bilss_> erUSUL: just a sec
[06:15] <manmadha> Dr_Willis, i dont know i want to change the look of ubuntu now i am searching..........
[06:15] <manmadha> Dr_Willis, http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/fury/
[06:15] <manmadha> this is the site
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> manmadha,  you do realize that thers several dozen decent thmes allready in the repos. you can easially install with the package manager. :P
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> icecrack appears to be 'meta city' theme.
[06:16] <erUSUL> manmadha: install gnome-art
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> which means its for the windows decorations
[06:17] <manmadha> Dr_Willis, can u tell the search keyword in synaptic pacagemanager??
[06:17] <manmadha> erUSUL, how to install gnome-art?
[06:17] <manmadha> can u give me the links??
[06:17] <kaolti> anyobdy know how to get libsdl mixer with apt-get?
[06:18] <erUSUL> manmadha: 'sudo apt-get install gnome-art' or with synaptic
[06:18] <kaolti> anyobdy?
[06:18] <kaolti> pls?
[06:18] <npster> I need to check if a CD is malicious, but it is for Windows. How do I check in Ubuntu ?
[06:18] <erUSUL> !info gnome-art
[06:18] <ubotu> gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[06:18] <npster> firewall
[06:18] <npster> !firewall
[06:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[06:18] <holzmodem> i try to install the kubuntu-desktop packet, but he cant solve the depencies..  why?
[06:18] <krefik> hi, where is proper place to report bug in edgy?
[06:19] <manmadha> erUSUL, how to go back to original one??how to uninstall it??
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> manmadha,  try 'theme' :P
[06:19] <erUSUL> krefik: launchpad
[06:19] <kaolti> anybody heard about libsdl_mixerif yes pls help me get it
[06:19] <kaolti> *nybody heard about libsdl_mixer?if yes pls help me get it
[06:19] <bahr> Somebody know how to change the keyboard layout in a terminal like aterm?
[06:19] <erUSUL> manmadha: the original what? gnome-art is a tool that lets you install themes from art.gnome.org
[06:20] <manmadha> erUSUL, thank u very much
[06:20] <manmadha> ....
[06:20] <npster> !virus
[06:20] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:20] <bintut> hello all.. can i ask questions related to amd64 here?
[06:21] <bilss_> erUSUL: the labtop handbook is no very good i think its realtech audio
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> you just did. :P care to ask another.
[06:22] <erUSUL> bilss_: 'lspci' will tell you
[06:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> Where is the cgi-bin folder actually located on ubuntu with apache2?
[06:24] <j^2> hey all
[06:24] <j^2> any jabber server admins?
[06:24] <krefik> erUSUL: thx
[06:24] <ompaul> !ask
[06:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:24] <[Imm] carbonic> I got a quickie question that will sound dumb to many of you but I just have to be sure. I got my shitty windows on harddrive 1, can I install ubuntu on a partion on harddrive 2 without problems and make dualboot work?
[06:25] <ompaul> !dualboot > [Imm] carbonic
[06:25] <ThatGuy> hoping that someone can help.   I am using ubuntu 6.06 LTS and it is using gnome 2.14   The newest stable version of gnome is now 2.16.  How do i upgrade just gnome from ubunut?
[06:25] <npster> How do I play mpeg files in Helix (the engine/player for RealPlayer for linux). helixcommunity.org
[06:25] <lupine_85> [Imm] carbonic: yes - just make sure that GRUB is installed on the MBR of drive 1
[06:25] <ompaul> [Imm] carbonic, read the message from the bot and please mind the language thanks
[06:25] <ThatGuy> err.... *ubuntu
[06:25] <Dutchy__> hello, i've been working on my wireless connection and when starting wpa_supplicant, a part of the output is
[06:25] <Dutchy__> ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_HOSTAPD] : Operation not supported
[06:25] <Dutchy__> Failed to initiate AP scan.
[06:25] <ompaul> ThatGuy, you don't if you read this:
[06:25] <ompaul> !timetable
[06:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:25] <TripleFFFF> hey guys.. you know oif ubuntu has trasncode etc all the avi to dvd modules in the live cd enabled ?
[06:26] <Dutchy__> im guessing thats not what its supposed to do :)
[06:26] <massive222> does anyone have experience with vmware tools????
[06:26] <j^2> i'm trying to set up logging on my jabber server, is that possible? and if it is, could you point me in a direction to a howto or something?
[06:26] <massive222> any experience with vmware workstation
[06:26] <jatt> npster: just install realplayer from the multiverse repository. helixplayer alone is unusable.
[06:26] <ompaul> !repeat
[06:26] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:26] <bilss_> erUSUL:http://pastebin.ca/163500
[06:26] <[Imm] carbonic> !dualboot
[06:26] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:26] <npster> jatt: It is
[06:27] <ThatGuy> ompaul, thanks
[06:27] <kishore> hi all
[06:27] <ompaul> ThatGuy, yw
[06:27] <kishore> Xorg+aiglx+compiz method ---- this method not working for me
[06:27] <TripleFFFF> !avi2dvd
[06:27] <npster> jatt: I like Helix more cause it is cooler and it plays OGGs, so does Real, n I have Real but I use Helix
[06:27] <TripleFFFF> ;)
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avi2dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <kishore> final step.. going wrong..
[06:28] <bintut> i installed ubuntu and edubuntu on my HP Compaq nx6125 AMD Turion64 laptop but the performance was so freakin' slow
[06:28] <npster> j^2: Use Gaim
[06:28] <j^2> npster: ?
[06:28] <bintut> anybody has a similar experience?
[06:28] <j^2> no no, server side logging
[06:28] <erUSUL> bilss_: try 'sudo modprobe snd-card-atiixp'
[06:28] <npster> j^2: Go Applications > Internet > Gaim Internet Messenger
[06:29] <npster> j^2: I don't know then
[06:29] <jatt> bintut: I use ubuntu on an HP laptop with an AMD Athlon64, no performance issues here. What is slow in your case?
[06:29] <j^2> npster: ah thanks
[06:29] <Jestre> How do I renumber eth interfaces?  Moved laptop to new machine, and now they are eth2/eth3 instead of eth0/1
[06:29] <npster> j^2: That sounds a bit sarcastic
[06:30] <kishore> help needed
[06:30] <npster> kishore: Ask
[06:30] <kishore> Xorg+aiglx+compiz method ---- this method not working for me
[06:30] <bilss_> erUSUL: FATAL: Module snd_card_atiixp not found.
[06:30] <ompaul> !ask
[06:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:30] <npster> dunno
[06:30] <bintut> jatt: very slow.. even if i just move the mouse, it's so freakin' slow.. when i click anything, it's slow
[06:30] <ompaul> kishore, ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:30] <kishore> i follow this link.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244559
[06:30] <ompaul> kishore, ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:31] <kishore> ompaul, ok
[06:31] <jatt> bintut: that's not normal, have you tried to run the top utility and check if there is a process consuming too much cpu?
[06:32] <erUSUL> bilss_: you are in a server install right? maybe the server kernel does not have sound drivers.... try  find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -name '*ati*' -print
[06:32] <bintut> jatt: i didn't.. and currently, i'm not running ubuntu.. but if i will just know how will i make it work normally, i'll reinstall to ubuntu again
[06:33] <bilss_> erUSUL : i wil try that command I have fluxbix installed
[06:33] <chrissturm> does the compiz in the edgy repo work with the xorg in edgy, or do i need xgl?
[06:34] <erUSUL> chrissturm: #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <kishore> neenaoffline, Reducing boot time in Ubuntu using InitNG---->did any one do tat
[06:34] <bodydrop> quick question, ubuntu's default kernel suports sata by default, right? and, it also suports NTFS by default?
[06:34] <chrissturm> erUSUL: #ubuntu+1 is for edgy discussion?
[06:34] <erUSUL> chrissturm: yes
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> bodydrop,  yes on both..
[06:34] <m1sh-L> is there a apt server for picasa and google-earth or must i install it manually
[06:34] <chrissturm> great, thanks!
[06:34] <bodydrop> Dr_Willis thx
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> m1sh-L,  gotta install google earth manually. It works good. :P
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> m1sh-L,  not tried picassa yet
[06:35] <erUSUL> bodydrop: ntfs: yes ; sata:it may depend on your hardware but generally yes
[06:35] <bilss_> erUSUL: when i type the command find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -name '*ati* -print i get this > on the next line
[06:36] <Dutchy__> i've been trying to run wpa_supplicant and in dmesg the few lat lines are [17240247.388000]  eth1: no IPv6 routers present
 is there no way to but it in synaptic
[06:36] <Dutchy__> can this mean ineed to set it to IPv4 first?
[06:36] <mzddarya> Basic question: how do I restart my apache server?  I can't seem to find apachectl.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> m1sh-L,  its a self installing binary/executable..  i could of had it downloaded and installed by the time it took me to type this. :P
[06:37] <Lysit> I've setup ubuntu to share folders, wins compatable. My ubuntu box is aksing for a username and password, which I've setup but never excepts it, any ideas?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> m1sh-L,  and legally no i dont think it will ever be in the repos.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Lysit,  sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> and set one up. :)
[06:37] <Lysit> sone that
[06:37] <erUSUL> bilss_: try  find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -name '*ati*' -print (you missed a closing ' )
[06:37] <Lysit> *done
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> restart the samba server.
[06:37] <Lysit> And that:)
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> you are one steap ahead of most people then
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> check the samba logs and double check ya passwords.
[06:38] <Spin_> hi
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Lysit,  you did install the samba package? "sudo apt-get install samba" ?
[06:38] <Dutchy__> also, i dont know if it's supposed to, but ifconfig returns no inet address for eth1, only inet6... am i supposed to change this before it will work?
[06:38] <Lysit> Yes
[06:38] <bodydrop> Dr_Willis: i'm not familiar with it, but ubuntu's installation got a "mounter"? i mean, an option that identifies the other partitions/hds and tryes to mount them?
[06:39] <bodydrop> ubuntu's installer even
[06:39] <Lysit> been following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server for samba, where are the dsamba logs found?
[06:39] <manmadha> erUSUL, hi! i opened gnome-art & i click on backgrounds .......it is downloading total backgrounds...what to do??
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> bodydrop,  thats a feature of gnome and kde,  the install/live cd.s do not auto mount drives as far as i know.
[06:39] <Spin_> I have connected a Samsung Syncmaster 3Ne temporarly but Ubuntu would only let a 640x480 resolution.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Lysit,  /var/log/samba i think.
[06:39] <Spin_> I've already looked for a driver
[06:39] <bilss_> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/163516
[06:40] <erUSUL> manmadha: it should only dl the thumbnails but you can allways close the app (or kill it)
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[06:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:40] <bodydrop> Dr_Willis: i see, thx
[06:40] <mzddarya> Hi, can anyone give me some basic help with my apache server?
[06:40] <Spin_> thx ubotu
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> Spin_: you need to find the vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor, and add those values to xorg.conf -- there aren't any monitor 'drivers' for linux.
[06:40] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[06:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:40] <erUSUL> bilss_: try 'sudo modprobe snd-atiixp'
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if theres any real monitor drivers for windows. :P
[06:41] <bahr> no one who knows how to change keyboard layout in the console? In aterm etc.?
[06:41] <Lysit> mzddarya: I got appache up and running using http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Apache_HTTP_Server might help you
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> bahr,  or no one has needed to.
[06:41] <bodydrop> loadkeys, i guess (sry, not ubuntu user, just helping a friend)
[06:41] <bodydrop> that was at bahr
[06:41] <bahr> Dr_Willis: lol yeah that might be the case too, but then nobody probably knows
[06:41] <Descention> does anyone know how to create an ethernet bridge in ubuntu?
[06:42] <bahr> bodydrop: ok, I'll man that
[06:42] <mzddarya> Lysit: thanks I'll check it out.  But do you know if I can use "apachectl"?
[06:42] <bodydrop> bahr: i think loadkeys *** , where *** is the location to the keymap.
[06:42] <bilss_> erUSUL: the curser has just returned to the next line no output no error message
[06:42] <fyrestrtr> mzddarya: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart or start or stop is all you need.
[06:42] <Lysit> apt-get install apache1 maybe?
[06:42] <bahr> bodydrop: ok, thanks
[06:43] <npster> How to convert  avi and mov files to theora ?
[06:43] <erUSUL> bilss_: try again 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav' do you hear it?
[06:43] <bodydrop> bahr: dunno about ubuntu but its propably in some obscure location in /usr/share. the keymaps end in a .tgz extension if i'm not mistaken
[06:44] <Hagbarddenstore> Ok.. I have a game in .bin... Howto install?
[06:44] <earthian> hello
[06:44] <infidel> Hagbarddenstore: what game is it?
[06:45] <Hagbarddenstore> infidel: Planeshift
[06:45] <bilss_> erUSUL: Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/phone.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[06:45] <bilss_> but only with sudo in front of the command
[06:45] <Spin_> where do i get the bus info for my agp geforce 6600 gt?
[06:45] <infidel> Hagbarddenstore: i won't install it. you are going to be disapointed
[06:45] <Spin_> bus ID i mean
[06:46] <Hagbarddenstore> infidel: Why?
[06:46] <infidel> Hagbarddenstore: it's not done, you are just in a town running around
[06:46] <Hagbarddenstore> Ehm... ok
[06:47] <fyrestrtr> Spin_: lspci -vv | grep VGA
[06:47] <bilss_> erUSUL: without sudo it gives the list of error mesages
[06:47] <infidel> Hagbarddenstore: i thought it was going to be like wow or everquest and i installed it
[06:47] <erUSUL> bilss_: add yourself to the audio group also add a line like this 'snd-atiixp' to /etc/modules
[06:47] <Spin_> thx fyrestrtr
[06:48] <infidel> Hagbarddenstore: or maybe i just didn't find a way out of town
[06:48] <Hagbarddenstore> Quite fucking high system req... :/
[06:48] <ompaul> Hagbarddenstore please mind your language thanks
[06:48] <bilss_> erUSUL: how to add myself to audio group please?
[06:48] <infidel> Hagbarddenstore: but try it. try sh ./xxxxxxx.bin
[06:49] <Hagbarddenstore> infidel: ./planeshift.bin worked
[06:49] <Hagbarddenstore> Installing right now..
[06:49] <sioux> hi people but what's happening to xgl? I see so many updates that are destroing xgl
[06:49] <infidel> Hagbarddenstore: good luck
[06:49] <iceman> Shoot linux needs more Masive multiplayer fps's
[06:49] <Masticore> I can connect to wireless networks in windows, but not in ubuntu. What can be the problem ?
[06:50] <Hagbarddenstore> iceman: Quake3 Arena
[06:50] <erUSUL> bilss_: 'sudo adduser [user]  audio'
[06:50] <ompaul> sioux, it is beta software ask in #ubuntu-xgl thanks
[06:50] <infidel> Masticore: what does iwconfig say?
[06:50] <Lysit> [2006/09/07 17:43:57, 0]  lib/util_sock.c:write_data(557)
[06:50] <Lysit>   write_data: write failure in writing to client 0.0.0.0. Error Connection reset by peer
[06:50] <Lysit> [2006/09/07 17:43:57, 0]  lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(765)
[06:50] <Lysit>   Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer)
[06:50] <Lysit> gah
[06:50] <iceman> Hagbarddenstore looking for something more like Battlefield 2 ...
[06:50] <Masticore> infidel I dont know, im not in ubuntu atm
[06:51] <Lysit> unreal tournament?
[06:51] <infidel> Masticore: i guess you're dual booting?
[06:51] <sioux> what's bonobo-activati?
[06:51] <Masticore> infidel yeap
[06:51] <Hagbarddenstore> iceman: Battlefield 2 is really really really bad
[06:51] <infidel> Masticore: what have you done to use the wireless card?
[06:51] <dcwChris> sorry I have a programming question.
[06:51] <mzddarya> Thanks fyrestrstr, Lysit.  I used /etc/init.d/apache2.  I found apachectl, it's apache2ctl.. doi!
[06:52] <iceman> Hagbarddenstore na, large maps, large groups in same game. AAO is ok but lacks vehicles...
[06:52] <infidel> dcwChris: what language?
[06:52] <Masticore> infidel nothing, it was ok when I installed ubuntu
[06:52] <dcwChris> C
[06:52] <Cerveza> dcwChris, there is a ##C channel for C programming help
[06:52] <bilss_> erUSUL: ok i have done the adduser and the line in modules do i need to restart?
[06:52] <Hagbarddenstore> iceman: Have you tryed any weapons for real?
[06:52] <Cerveza> type /join ##C
[06:52] <infidel> dcwChris: try ##c or is it #c
[06:53] <Cerveza> its ## for all languages
[06:53] <Hagbarddenstore> ##c++
[06:53] <erUSUL> bilss_: no just enjoy the sound...
[06:53] <infidel> Masticore: what is the card?
[06:53] <bodydrop> Cerveza: not all, '#python'
[06:53] <dcwChris> ok thanks
[06:53] <Cerveza> ##c++ is for c++, ##c is for c
[06:53] <iceman> Hagbarddenstore what you mean... ?
[06:53] <Goldfish> hi
[06:54] <Goldfish> does ubuntu come with a messenger program
[06:54] <Masticore> infidel: intel i think
[06:54] <erUSUL> Goldfish: gaim
[06:54] <lupine_85> ask(question);
[06:54] <Hagbarddenstore> iceman: I mean that the weapons of BF2 sucks... They are really really unrealistic... ppl do die when they get a bullet trought their head...
[06:54] <Cerveza> bodydrop, there is a ##python channel
[06:54] <fowlduck-> anyone here using edgy yet?
[06:54] <infidel> !wireless
[06:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:54] <Hagbarddenstore> And a machine CAN'T miss at 2 meters range
[06:54] <lmosher> Anyone here know how to install headers for tcl and tk? Anyone know which package they are provided in??
[06:54] <dehlaptop> hey
[06:54] <Goldfish> whats tv card support like
[06:54] <bodydrop> Cerveza, oh, so, my bad :D
[06:54] <infidel> !wireless > Masticore
[06:55] <lmosher> what's the apt command to search, for example, what package provides tclsh?
[06:55] <lupine_85> apt-cache search <expr>
[06:55] <iceman> Hagbarddenstore i'll argee with the point... just most "linux" FPS's are so futureistic, small maps ET is ok.
[06:55] <Cerveza> bodydrop, http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#topicalchannels
[06:55] <bodydrop> ah
[06:55] <kitche> Cerveza: just so you know ##python only has one user in it
[06:56] <lupine_85> !tcl8.0-dev
[06:56] <Cerveza> I'm aware
[06:56] <ubotu> tcl8.0-dev: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.0 - development files. In component main, is extra. Version 8.0.5-8.1 (dapper), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB
[06:56] <iceman> Hagbarddenstore Nothing with vehicles for linux i have found yet ?
[06:56] <lupine_85> replace 8.0 with whatever it is you use
[06:56] <fowlduck-> anyone here using edgy yet?
[06:56] <Cerveza> I was in there 10 seconds ago
[06:56] <bodydrop> a question on ubuntu now. where are the fstab informations? /etc/fstab?
[06:56] <Cerveza> yeah
[06:56] <lmosher> lupine_85, kewl.. what about tk? I do a search for TK and a WHOLE lotta stuff comes up :/
[06:56] <Cerveza> if you need to check type: cat /etc/fstab
[06:56] <bodydrop> hmm, my buddy says its blank...
[06:57] <bilss_> erUSUL: thanks just one more question before i go i am running vmware and it says failed to open sound  device/dev/dsp  permission denied
[06:57] <lupine_85> apt-cache search tk |grep dev suggests tk8.3-dev
[06:57] <lupine_85> or 8.4
[06:57] <lmosher> grep. cool. :P
[06:57] <Cerveza> grep is your friend
[06:57] <lupine_85> grep++
[06:57] <Masticore> infidel: what should I look for there ?
[06:58] <Renan_s2> !nfs
[06:58] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:58] <infidel> Masticore: you need to see if your card comes up use ifconfig and see if the card is active
[06:59] <infidel> Masticore: what is the name of the card linux uses for it?
[06:59] <brian98> 17:59:19 up 9 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.24, 0.17
[06:59] <brian98> 2nd damn reboot today, something not right :(
[07:00] <bilss_> erUSUL: also i can only run that line for the sound as sudo it gives a bunch of error messages otherwise i have done the line  in /etc/modules
[07:01] <bilss_> erUSUL: and have added alex to audio group
[07:01] <erUSUL> bilss_: have you added yourself to the audio group
[07:01] <erUSUL> bilss_: your username is alex?
[07:01] <bilss_> yes
[07:02] <Bman> How do I lock users to thier home directories in SSH?
[07:02] <bilss_> erUSUL: yes
[07:02] <erUSUL> bilss_: maybe you will need to reboot after all... (btw my username is alex too XD)
[07:02] <lupine_85> Bman: fakeroot, I'd imagine
[07:02] <bilss_> erUSUL: ok will do
[07:03] <Bman> lupine_85, is there any documentation on that?
[07:04] <ed_> Anyone have any idea when GNOME 2.16 will end up in Dapper repos?
[07:04] <klaxian> anyone have a problem using seahorse-tool after the latest update to 0.9.3 in dapper?
[07:05] <erUSUL> ed_: never
[07:05] <klaxian> i keep getting a "daemon not running" error, but it is definitely running
[07:05] <ed_> erUSUL: Lovely. So to get a stable new release of software I have to go to an unsupported release of Ubuntu?
[07:06] <erUSUL> klaxian: yes you have to add seahorse-daemon to the programs to run in your session (Sytem>Prefs>Session)
[07:06] <erUSUL> ed_: yes
[07:06] <erUSUL> !timetable > ed_
[07:06] <klaxian> erUSUL: i manually ran "seahorse daemon"
[07:06] <klaxian> erUSUL: to test it
[07:06] <ed_> That's...stupid. Okay, so is there a way to get an upgrade package that works with Dapper without having to upgrade everything?
[07:06] <klaxian> erUSUL: XXXXXXX 14479  0.1  1.3  31316 10192 ?        Ss   13:01   0:00 seahorse-daemon
[07:07] <klaxian> erUSUL: is that not correct?
[07:07] <klaxian> erUSUL: i also added it to my session start programs
[07:07] <klaxian> erUSUL: i can sign emails with evolution fine, but when i go to sign files within nautilus, it gives an error - also when i run seahorse-tool from the command line, same problem
[07:07] <erUSUL> klaxian: yes
[07:08] <Hawkwind> Anyone have a source for Gnome-2.16 for Dapper by chance ?
[07:08] <klaxian> erUSUL: yes what? ;)  yes, it's not correct?
[07:08] <erUSUL> klaxian: i only use it with evo. i'll check nautilus
[07:08] <ed_> Hawkwind: Looking for one too, and it doesn't seem we get 'em.
[07:08] <Masticore-> are wpa support included by default in the next ubuntu verson ?
[07:08] <kitche> klaxian: well what does the error usually say but I use the command line mostly for signing files
[07:08] <erUSUL> klaxian: yes is correct
[07:09] <klaxian> erUSUL: ** (seahorse-tool:14500): WARNING **: DNS-SD initialization failed: Daemon not running
[07:09] <klaxian> erUSUL: ** (seahorse-tool:14500): CRITICAL **: cryptui_keyset_key_get_string: assertion `G_VALUE_TYPE (value) == G_TYPE_STRING' failed
[07:09] <klaxian> erUSUL: that's what i get with "seahorse-tool -s" from command line
[07:09] <lmosher> Wow what kind of configure script goes though like 100 things and then when you type 'make' it fails because the script was written in csh and I ddint' have that shell installed? I mean really!!
[07:09] <Scayn> quit
[07:09] <Scayn> \quit
[07:09] <ed_> lmosher: A Linux one. ;)
[07:09] <Scayn> sorry!
[07:10] <klaxian> kitche: i just pasted the error message above :)
[07:10] <lmosher> ed_, I blame the institution. At least I figured it out and it was easy enough to remidy. Why isn't csh installed in ubuntu, anyway?
[07:10] <erUSUL> klaxian: nautilus worked fine. Log out and log in again
[07:10] <ed_> lmosher: Idiot-proofing, probably.
[07:10] <klaxian> erUSUL: ok...you are thinking that since it wasn't started upon login that something didn't pick it up?  no problem
[07:11] <klaxian> erUSUL: i will brb while i re-login
[07:11] <lmosher> ed_, If you're too stupid to not open the script file giving the error and see that it says /bin/csh in the beginning, you don't deserve to run the program?
[07:11] <erUSUL> klaxian: good luck
[07:11] <ed_> lmosher: Never underestimate the power of stupidity.
[07:11] <Goldfish> lol
[07:11] <lmosher> ed_, I blame the chaps at berkely or whever this software was developed...
[07:11] <lmosher> ed_, cornell. That explains is.
[07:11] <lmosher> it
[07:12] <ed_> I just plain don't have time to fiddle with a distro like Debian or Gentoo anymore while at school; I use Ubuntu because everyone says it's more likely to Just Work. But this lack of backporting of new software releases is annoying.
[07:13] <ed_> I'm not updating to a beta OS to get the use of a new *stable* release of software.
[07:13] <klaxian> erUSUL: same problem
[07:13] <Goldfish> bet my tv card want work out of the box on ubuntu
[07:13] <fowlduck-> ed_, it's rather usable now, with a month until its' release
[07:13] <klaxian> erUSUL: daemon is running, evolution works, seahorse-tool generates an error
[07:13] <lmosher> Goldfish, really depends on the card. That applies for almost any hardware in any open source system..
[07:13] <ed_> fowlduck-: If it says "beta," I'm not touching it.
[07:13] <klaxian> erUSUL: do u think old gconf settings for seahorse are messing it up?  that's a stretch tho
[07:13] <Goldfish> yep
[07:14] <fowlduck-> ed_, heh, ok, your call
[07:14] <Goldfish> its a haupaug win tv pci
[07:14] <ed_> fowlduck-: I made the mistake of expecting Dapper flights to not result in scrumming of my drive.
[07:14] <klaxian> erUSUL: i can sign with gpg command line but that's less convenient ;)
[07:14] <erUSUL> klaxian: well i have had problems with evolution they went away when i added the seahorse-daemon to the session. maybe you'll have to reboot?
[07:14] <lmosher> Goldfish, You shouldn't have a problem then, from what I've read up on it
[07:14] <snedar> hi! does anyone have metacity's composite working under edgy, and if so, is it a bit spectacular? :-)
[07:14] <lmosher> Goldfish, I'm thinking of getting one, though.
[07:14] <Masticore-> are wpa support on wireless network included by default in the next ubuntu verson ?
[07:14] <klaxian> erUSUL: reboot?  that would imply it has something to do with gdm that doesn't get reset with i simply log out?
[07:14] <lmosher> snedar, I run xgl on dapper, if that counts? it's pretty spiffy.
[07:15] <erUSUL> klaxian: you can try gconf-editor if you like (to get rid of old conf
[07:15] <kitche> ed_: well beta in linux isn't really the same as in beta in linux it, well it can break your system but most of the time it's stablew
[07:15] <snedar> lmosher: is that with the new metacity composite manager or with compiz? I can run compiz myself, but I'm wondering what the new metacity is like...
[07:15] <Goldfish> if it works it will be the first linux distro to support my tv card out of the box
[07:15] <klaxian> erUSUL: ok i'll look into that...but why would a reboot help?  doesn't session just get loaded in gnome?
[07:15] <lmosher> snedar, Sorry I'm not on edgy, I'm just running xgl and compiz on dapper like "normal"
[07:15] <Goldfish> whats a good tv app to use
[07:16] <lmosher> Goldfish, MythTV
[07:16] <ed_> kitche: I've been around Linux off and on since early RH days. ;) I know that it PROBABLY won't trash my box. But I'm not going to play that game a second time.
[07:16] <Goldfish> ok i have heard of that
[07:16] <snedar> lmosher: no need to apologize :-) I was just wondering
[07:16] <Goldfish> anybody use cedega
[07:16] <lmosher> Goldfish, and if what I've read is true, with the hauppage or however you spell it, I've heard good things
[07:16] <infidel> anyone here ever play D&D
[07:16] <snedar> Goldfish: yep
[07:16] <erUSUL> klaxian: i do not know what to say it worked for me i don't know what type of erros you are getting
[07:16] <lmosher> Goldfish, yea I use it. It's not all it's cracked up to be, but it works for Steam :)
[07:17] <Goldfish> how about bf2
[07:17] <Goldfish> thanks for info on tv
[07:17] <klaxian> erUSUL: i pasted them...here they are again: ** (seahorse-tool:15396): WARNING **: DNS-SD initialization failed: Daemon not running
[07:17] <lmosher> I haven't played bf2 I'll tell you the results with cedega and/or wine are extremely mixed. It is incredibly hit or miss simply depending on how much the game actually depends on windows
[07:17] <klaxian> erUSUL: ** (seahorse-tool:15396): CRITICAL **: cryptui_keyset_key_get_string: assertion `G_VALUE_TYPE (value) == G_TYPE_STRING' failed
[07:18] <mby> guys , tell me please which where are stored downloaded packages , cause I need space on my disc ??????????????????/
[07:18] <Goldfish> i so wish game devel would start supporting linux
[07:18] <Goldfish> im sick of virus crap and spyware
[07:18] <marlun> How come I don't have mplayer or mozilla-mplayer in synaptic?
[07:18] <bodydrop> cat file >> file2 appends file to file2 right?
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Downloaded Ubuntu packages are kept in   /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:19] <inam> !power
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <kitche> Goldfish: there is some companies release ports of their games (ie: id but then again they program in linux as well
[07:19] <klaxian> mby: it's in /var/cache/apt/
[07:19] <erUSUL> mby: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean
[07:19] <lmosher> Goldfish, Yes. supposedly cedega works with bf2: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Battlefield_2 it's on the "officially supported" list and I do admit I've had good luck with software on that list.
[07:19] <marlun> I've uncommented the repositories in /etc/apt/source.list.
[07:19] <lmosher> Goldfish, but the downside is that that list is very, very short...
[07:19] <klaxian> mby: you can also change a setting to delete packages after installation
[07:19] <inam> hi everybody !
[07:19] <Goldfish> yes i know and one is hyperion which is also making new version of amiga os OS4 PPC
[07:20] <erUSUL> klaxian: the erors i was getting in evo were of the form 'unable to write to pipe.... keyID.....etc....etc..'
[07:20] <erUSUL> klaxian: maybe they are unrelated problems?
[07:20] <RaD|Tz> is GNOME 2.16 available for 6.06?
[07:20] <gubuntu> how do i mount an exernal samba share in ubuntu?
[07:20] <mby> thanks klaxian, unfotunately this dir is empty , but thanks a lot
[07:20] <Ivanowitch> Hello. Does anyone know how to make the Linksys VPN client run under Ubuntu?
[07:21] <earthian> hey does anybody use lm-sensors?
[07:21] <erUSUL> RaD|Tz: no and it won't be
[07:21] <inam> is there any log file from which i can find out if someone had removed / reconnected the power adaptor of my laptop while i was away... acpi is giving only current status; i need the history... can anyone help
[07:21] <RaD|Tz> only for the new version?
[07:21] <Goldfish> whats the best messenger app for ubuntu
[07:22] <kitche> Goldfish: gaim
[07:22] <erUSUL> inam: /var/log/messages
[07:22] <erUSUL> Goldfish: gaim
[07:22] <Goldfish> em not heard of that i have a look soon
[07:22] <erUSUL> Goldfish: some prefer amsn
[07:22] <gubuntu> gaim is awsome
[07:22] <Goldfish> does it do smiles
[07:22] <earthian> hey does anybody use lm-sensors? <--- my fans show 0 speed.. i think i should play smth with the fan div values... maybe you know when values should there be?
[07:23] <gubuntu> ...
[07:23] <Ivanowitch> yes, it does do smilies :)
[07:23] <Goldfish> thks
[07:23] <gubuntu> !samba
[07:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:24] <Goldfish> half way on my download of ubuntu
[07:24] <infidel> gubuntu: explain
[07:25] <gubuntu> infidel: i got it
[07:25] <gubuntu> thanks
[07:26] <infidel> gubuntu: how is it awesome? do you have voice and webcam?
[07:28] <gubuntu> its awsome because its easy to use, lotsa plugins, it has a small footprint, minimal resource use, open source, and do a search for gaim buddy pounce, that is a great feature
[07:28] <lupine_85> is it "2&1 > /dev/null" to stop a command from emitting any output?
[07:28] <gubuntu> the list goes on and on
[07:29] <mby> I need space on disc urgently, can I delete pkgcache.bin  ???????????/
[07:29] <npster> I need help with GDM themes !!!
[07:29] <gubuntu> ubotu, tell infidel about gaim
[07:30] <steinhirt> Help! I search a german channel...
[07:30] <Ivanowitch> #ubuntu-de
[07:30] <infidel> !gaim
[07:30] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[07:30] <steinhirt> thx
[07:30] <inam> erUSUL, i find the info i need in /var/log/acpid .... but i am not understanding what is written in the file
[07:30] <npster> I cant install a THEME. HELP !!!???
[07:31] <erUSUL> inam: so?
[07:31] <lupine_85> ah, it's "2>&1"
[07:31] <erUSUL> !caps > npster
[07:32] <npster> I hope that that is no big deal, I need help with GDM themes, it starts copying and then the "File format is invalid!"? Help?
[07:32] <lupine_85> Does anyone know what a buffer I/O error on /dev/hda1 means?
[07:32] <lupine_85> I'm assuming it's bad...
[07:32] <erUSUL> inam: you can post the error msg to a pastebin and tell us the url
[07:32] <lupine_85> ...but is it indicative of hardware failure?
[07:33] <npster> lupine_85: That is the worst that could happen. Go to your retailer
[07:33] <lupine_85> erm, it's a quantum fireball ST
[07:33] <lupine_85> 4.3GB...
[07:34] <lupine_85> so I should expect, what, a head crash in the near future?
[07:34] <npster> lupine_85: You see, you send data fast but the HDD can write, the buffer is there to contain that data and send it with speed that the HDD can write
[07:35] <lupine_85> so the buffer is failing? or overflowing?
[07:35] <inam> help ! my mousepointer is not moving... everything was working fine till just a while ago !
[07:35] <npster> lupine_85: *You see, the PC sends data very fast than the HDD can write,
[07:35] <lupine_85> inam: is it plugged in? :)
[07:35] <erUSUL> lupine_85: i think that is hardware failure of some type :(
[07:35] <inam> lupine_85... i have a laptop... so itsa touchpad basically !
[07:35] <erUSUL> lupine_85: make fresh backups
[07:36] <lupine_85> erUSUL: cool, not to worry. I'll get me a backup and hope it holds on for another month
[07:36] <vickythedoc> hi
[07:36] <lupine_85> After that, it doesn't matter really
[07:36] <kowa> how can a make a pic as background by using the shell?
[07:36] <lupine_85> this hard drive's been around since the year dot ;) )
[07:36] <npster> lupine_85: It is probably broken, or overflowing as you said, or there is some problem with the removing data from the buffer, after it has been writen to the HDD
[07:36] <lupine_85> kowa: change your "schema" in xterm. or whatever you use
[07:36] <lupine_85> npster: thanks for the explanation
[07:37] <kowa> lupine_85 thx
[07:37] <npster> lupine_85: It is hardware error, we can not help here
[07:37] <erUSUL> lupine_85: doing a search in google with the error msg as search string can be usefull
[07:37] <lupine_85> at least I got some sort of warning :)
[07:37] <npster> I need help. I can not install a single GDM theme. HELP
[07:38] <webwolf_27> npster, gdm themes can only be installed as root
[07:39] <npster> webwolf_27: how do I do that,, i get a warning "File format is invalid!"
[07:40] <webwolf_27> npster, what is the file format
[07:40] <vickythedoc> is there anyway i can get my comp to play mp3s without converting them to ogg first?
[07:40] <npster> webwolf_27: Tar.gz
[07:40] <gnomefreak> unpack it first
[07:40] <npster> vickythedoc: Yes
[07:40] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, with what sound player
[07:40] <thomsen__> does anyone knows the answer of my question: is there a way to let the internet work without doing this every boot: sudo dhclient -cf /etc/dhclient.conf eth0
[07:40] <npster> gnomefreak: And then
[07:40] <erUSUL> !mp3 > vickythedoc
[07:41] <erUSUL> !mp3
[07:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:41] <webwolf_27> gnomefreak,  thats not needed
[07:41] <gnomefreak> npster: than openthe loginscreen chager thing
[07:41] <gnomefreak> webwolf_27: it very much is
[07:41] <gnomefreak> webwolf_27: for gdm themes it is
[07:41] <vickythedoc> im very new to ubuntu, i was trying to use rhythmbox music player
[07:41] <npster> gnomefreak: WHAT
[07:41] <gnomefreak> for normal themes you dont have to
[07:42] <gnomefreak> npster: system>admin>login screen
[07:42] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, my tip would be install xmms and xmms-mad
[07:42] <vickythedoc> erUSUL: whats wrong with mp3?
[07:42] <Mir1> I have dualboot with xp. Is there some way of reading my NTFS-files from ubuntu, without being able to write them?
[07:42] <gnomefreak> npster: add theme find theme you want added
[07:42] <npster> gnomefreak: It is Sleek Dragon from gnome-look
[07:42] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, the format is patented
[07:42] <KenSentMe> !ntfs > Mir1
[07:42] <gnomefreak> npster: unpack the tar
[07:42] <gnomefreak> than go to system>admin> login screen set up
[07:43] <Mir1> just write !ntfs in prompt?
[07:43] <webwolf_27> gnomefreak,  I've never needed to
[07:43] <vickythedoc> oh well i used it on windows and i need it for my mp3 player to work
[07:43] <gnomefreak> login window
[07:43] <gnomefreak> webwolf_27: gdm themes can not be tars
[07:43] <webwolf_27> gnomefreak,  when did they change that
[07:43] <erUSUL> vickythedoc: it is patent encumbered and can not be installed by default
[07:43] <infidel> how awesome is that they serve beer in a vending machine in this hotel?
[07:43] <gnomefreak> webwolf_27: been like that since atleast dapper
[07:43] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, you need libmad
[07:44] <webwolf_27> gnomefreak,  that was new to me
[07:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Mir1: You can also use the diskmountr script to mount that ntfs and put an icon on your desktop
[07:44] <erUSUL> vickythedoc: install all gstreamer0.10 plugins you find (the mad one is used to decode mp3)
[07:45] <vickythedoc> oh dear im lost now
[07:45] <Mir1> ok thanks...
[07:45] <Mir1> thanks kensentme too :-)
[07:46] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, apt-get install gstreamer-mad
[07:46] <kitche> vickythedoc: what's your mp3 player
[07:46] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc,sorry ... sudo apt-get install gstreamer-mad
[07:47] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc,no change that again.. should be "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:47] <vickythedoc> ahh brb my dinner is burning
[07:47] <infidel> man i can't believe there are 907 users in this channel
[07:47] <lupine_85> 908 now :)
[07:48] <gerry_> how do i find out who has used on using my normal nick?
[07:48] <infidel> d'oh!
[07:48] <earthian> is there any software that would let me control my fan speeds?
[07:48] <Goldfish> yep i thought that too must people in one channel i have ever seen
[07:48] <RawSewage> whats the command to unrar multiple .rar at once.   unrar e *.*  isnt working
[07:48] <lupine_85> e.g. #ubuntu-networking, #ubuntu-video, etc
[07:48] <boudahxl_> In (menu) System->Preferences->Keyboard  (Tab)Layouts, I lost the list, is there any way to bring it back?
[07:48] <lupine_85> RawSewage: you could do a foreach loop? forget the exact syntax, though
[07:48] <boudahxl_> Says "Unknown"
[07:49] <barney> Eek!! I'm on IRC from text-mode here. I broke my system (not my workstation) by upgrading to edgy. X has died and I want to know how I can get a list of currently installed packages?
[07:49] <earthian> is there any software that would let me control my fan speeds?
[07:49] <RawSewage> lupine_85, theres a command.  I forget what it is though
[07:49] <lupine_85> e.g. foreach *.rar ; unrar e <something>; done
[07:49] <RawSewage> I did it once
[07:49] <RawSewage> without programming
[07:49] <earthian> barney, use aptitide
[07:49] <earthian> sudo aptidute
[07:49] <aldur2> !dvd
[07:49] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:49] <infidel> barney: lol when i first started using the internet it was from telnet
[07:49] <earthian> !aptitude
[07:49] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:49] <vickythedoc> webwolf_27: i have dome that :) now what?
[07:49] <barney> earthian: Ideally I'd like to save the list to my home directory. How would I use aptitude to do that?
[07:49] <RawSewage> lupine_85, I'll try it though
[07:50] <lupine_85> the command up there simply won't work :(
[07:50] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, open your mp3 with gstreamer
[07:50] <lupine_85> like I said, I forget the correct syntax
[07:50] <pantaloon> i've got a dumb question: why doesn't ubuntu come with c libraries and a compiler preinstalled?
[07:50] <vickythedoc> kitche: its a E vision one
[07:50] <infidel> barney: i bet not 20 people in here know about telnet
[07:50] <barney> infidel: I know a little about telnet
[07:50] <earthian> barney, use the links in there
[07:50] <earthian> i do not know tbh
[07:50] <barney> >.<
[07:50] <TMM> I know about telnet!
[07:50] <barney> OK.
[07:50] <earthian> !aptitude > barney
[07:50] <lupine_85> btw, all * does is get expanded to all the different filenames... by the looks of it, unrar only takes one archive at a time
[07:50] <RawSewage> lupine_85, * is always wildcard, right
[07:50] <aldur2> lo guys could someone tell me the page for downloading the dvd parts so that ubuntu can play encrypted dvd's
[07:50] <barney> Yeh OK
[07:50] <infidel> TMM: lol
[07:50] <barney> I saw
[07:50] <barney> But
[07:50] <lupine_85> * is expanded by bash
[07:51] <webwolf_27> pantaloon, because ubuntu is for newbies, not developers. Developes know how to install one
[07:51] <barney> I know the list is stored somewhere....
[07:51] <lupine_85> so unrar gets something like unrar e arch-1.rar arch2.rar
[07:51] <barney> And I want to know how to get it without installing a command line webbrowser
[07:51] <lupine_85> it's up to it to interpret that correctly... and it looks like it doesn't
[07:51] <earthian> is there any software that would let me control my fan speeds?
[07:51] <TMM> infidel: how can only 20 people of the nearly a thousand here know about telnet? this is a linux channel, it is in the roots :)
[07:51] <RawSewage> lupine_85, ok ty
[07:51] <infidel> man when i first started using linux it was fvwm2 and i had the add my own icons in the config files
[07:51] <TMM> infidel: I know there weren't many other options back in the 'day, things were better then :)
[07:52] <lupine_85> but do you really want 1,000 people saying they do?
[07:52] <erUSUL> TMM: telnet is ancient and deprecated any serius linux/unix user uses ssh
[07:52] <infidel> tmm you know that's true
[07:52] <TMM> lupine_85: no, I was just pointing out the unlikelyness that so little pople know about that
[07:52] <boudahxl_> In (menu) System->Preferences->Keyboard  (Tab)Layouts, I lost the list, is there any way to bring it back? Any ideas?
[07:52] <earthian> ssh++
[07:52] <earthian> :)
[07:52] <lupine_85> erUSUL: yes... even when the remote host doesn't support it ;)
[07:52] <TMM> erUSUL: I KNOW do you think I still use it? :)
[07:52] <barney> Guys... I have to eat dinner now and this client sucks. So if anyone knows the file or folder apt-get keeps all the currently installed packages names' in, email me at stormx2006@gmail.com, thanks
[07:52] <yacek19> hi
[07:53] <infidel> erUSUL: you don't know uxin then, we still use it
[07:53] <lupine_85> and even when you want to test your web browser/etc. for compliance/whatever
[07:53] <pantaloon> webwolf_27, i guess...pain in the arse tho...all i'm trying to do is get my crappy usb wi-fi adapter working
[07:53] <lupine_85> telnet is still useful in many contexts
[07:53] <lupine_85> like accessing your POP3 mail ;)
[07:53] <infidel> yup lupine_85
[07:53] <lupine_85> j/k
[07:53] <smacky_wolf> could anyone tell me maybe how to restart alsa, please? gnome can't use it for some bizzarre reason
[07:53] <aldur2> !wireles
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <aldur2> !wireless
[07:53] <TMM> infidel: it's usually pretty easy to install openssh on a unix machine these days, unless it is 10+ years old, in which case you probably don't want to :)
[07:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:53] <optimusprime> hey all....
[07:53] <aldur2> !dvd
[07:53] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:54] <lupine_85> TMM: try installing shh on a ZyXEL router...
[07:54] <optimusprime> how do you upgrade breezy to dapper?
[07:54] <lupine_85> ...doesn't work
[07:54] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[07:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:54] <infidel> TMM: i thought it was a default install
[07:54] <TMM> lupine_85: I don't know about that, I don't think I can read my pop3s with telnet ;)
[07:54] <TMM> lupine_85: good point
[07:54] <lupine_85> optusprime: change the repos to dapper ones, then apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:54] <lupine_85> TMM: it's great fun
[07:54] <webwolf_27> pantaloon, if you think thats bad try LFS
[07:54] <infidel> lupine_85: using telnet to access email was an old hack
[07:54] <lupine_85> if somewhat pointless ;)
[07:54] <TMM> lupine_85: well, if you've got WPA, there's not much need to ssh, really
[07:55] <infidel> lupine_85: i bet you can still get email with telnet
[07:55] <lupine_85> oh, yes
[07:55] <lupine_85> as long as you're not using Kerberos as an authentication mechanism...
[07:55] <lupine_85> you can still browse the Web with telnet, as well ;)
[07:55] <infidel> lupine_85: lol
[07:55] <optimusprime> I tried that already....but it didn't upgrade to Dapper
[07:55] <infidel> lupine_85: you ever use netcat?
[07:56] <lupine_85> infidel: only for overwriting my embedded firewall's CF card
[07:56] <yacek19> how can I choose specific package version with apt-get??
[07:56] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, and did it work
[07:56] <lupine_85> quite a nice app
[07:56] <lupine_85> not as flexible as telnet, thoguh
[07:56] <vickythedoc> no webwolf_27, its not on my open with list
[07:56] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, double-click the mp3
[07:56] <infidel> lupine_85: what does 85 stand for?
[07:56] <lupine_85> year of birth
[07:57] <lupine_85> since "lupine" was taken
[07:57] <boudahxl_> $ xmodmap us  <---xmodmap:  unable to open file 'us' for reading
[07:57] <infidel> lupine_85: ouch make me feel old then
[07:57] <TMM> I use netcat and a synaptic link from a tty to my brainstem to browse the web! I've got khtml for brains installed :)
[07:57] <vickythedoc> Totem could not play 'file:///media/hda5/Downloaded music/Adam Kay & Suman Biswas - Nothing At All.mp3'.You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[07:57] <lupine_85> it could be 1885...
[07:57] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, open with rythembox
[07:57] <infidel> lupine_85: oh yeah
[07:57] <lupine_85> vickythedoc: if you're using totem-xine, then install libxine-extracodecs
[07:58] <infidel> TMM: the first actual cyborg
[07:58] <erUSUL> yacek19: install package=package-version
[07:58] <vickythedoc> it wont work with rythembox webwolf_27
[07:58] <infidel> TMM: or is that just borg
[07:58] <yacek19> apt-get install xmms=xmms-1.0-something, is that correct erUSUL??
[07:59] <TMM> infidel: it's not all rozes, flash players make my head hurt :(
[07:59] <npster> How to install a GTK 2 theme ???
[07:59] <TMM> infidel: and, no adblock yet :(
[07:59] <infidel> TMM: lol
[07:59] <erUSUL> yacek19: yes check aviable versions with apt-cache policy package
[07:59] <TMM> infidel: :)
[07:59] <smacky_wolf> Marf? Anyone?
[07:59] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, sudo apt-get install xmms-mad. then open with xmms
[08:00] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, that will work
[08:00] <vickythedoc> ok ill try that webwolf_27
[08:00] <yacek19> erSUL and I also want to lock this version so that it wan't be updated, how can I do that?
[08:00] <shylock> abyone know why beagle only indexes files directly in my home directory and not in its subfolders
[08:00] <npster> gnomefreak: How to install a gtk 2 theme
[08:00] <webwolf_27> ok I gotta go
[08:00] <webwolf_27> see ya folks
[08:01] <infidel> webwolf_27: take care
[08:01] <vickythedoc> ooo yey, *gives webwolf_27a kiss on the cheek*
[08:01] <npster> bye
[08:01] <shylock> or if there is a beagle channel
[08:01] <Jack_Sparrow> HAs anyone gotten Kweather from KDEtoys to work under Ubuntu
[08:01] <webwolf_27> vickythedoc, hey my wife'll get jellous ;}
[08:01] <gnomefreak> npster: drag and drop it into the themes menu in system>prefferences>themes
[08:01] <webwolf_27> bye
[08:01] <vickythedoc> bye x
[08:01] <infidel> vickythedoc: what about us?
[08:01] <npster> gnomefreak: File format is invalid!
[08:02] <vickythedoc> lol infidel, ok *sighs*
[08:02] <infidel> vickythedoc: :)
[08:02] <vickythedoc> *gives all the helpful men a peck on the cheek*
[08:02] <gnomefreak> npster: unpack it
[08:02] <npster> and
[08:02] <gnomefreak> npster: follow the directions i gave you a litttle while ago
[08:02] <Jestre> I changed the hostname of a system, but did not change /etc/hosts.  Is there a way to edit that file (sudo does not work)?
[08:02] <infidel> anyone need any help?????
[08:02] <bayzider> is there a command to move more then one file at a time, with out puting the im a directiory to move?
[08:03] <npster> gnomefreak: I closed the window
[08:03] <vickythedoc> well i could do with getting my webcam working with msn or yahoo infidel
[08:03] <smacky_wolf> infidel, yeah... how to restart alsa?
[08:03] <mby> do You know how to install mysql server easily , because after instaling and trying to set password for ROOT i get : mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[08:03] <mby> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[08:03] <barney> hey everyone
[08:03] <gnomefreak> npster: drag and drop it into the themes menu in  system>prefferences>themes
[08:03] <npster> gnomefreak: I got GDM to work, but it only works on login
[08:03] <infidel> vickythedoc: which version of msn are you using?
[08:03] <vickythedoc> amsn at the moment infidel
[08:03] <gnomefreak> npster: thats what gdm is
[08:03] <kitche> mby: there is a readme on the net
[08:03] <erUSUL> vickythedoc: amsn supports webcams afaik
[08:03] <ramblingturtle> greetings i am trying to figure out how to detect wireless networks and connect any good program recommendations
[08:04] <infidel> vickythedoc: which version?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> npster: it only controls login screen
[08:04] <smacky_wolf> rambling turtle: you could try... networkmanager
[08:04] <vickythedoc> 0.95
[08:04] <mby> kitche , plese give me an address because I will get CRAZY soon :/
[08:04] <bayzider> any one??
[08:04] <vickythedoc> i can see other peoples cams, mine just wont send
[08:05] <kitche> mby: mysqladmin -u root password 'roots_password' change 'root_passwod' to your password you want
[08:05] <infidel> vickythedoc: hold on a sec
[08:05] <erUSUL> bayzider: to move files use mv
[08:05] <mby> 'roots_password' you mean my actual root password
[08:05] <npster> gnomefreak: then how to install a theme that would control how windows appear
[08:05] <smacky_wolf> ramblingturtle, the networkmanager daemon is in synaptic, and it's a nice like toolbar applet... if you use KDE, knetworkmanager is also good
[08:06] <bayzider> i know but i want to move more then one at a time cause i have to move so many
[08:06] <kitche> mby: no mysql passwords can be different
[08:06] <erUSUL> bayzider: use wildcards for example if you want to move all doc files use mv *.doc /new/destination
[08:06] <gnomefreak> npster: i suggest you look for that answer at help.ubuntu.com i have to go to work or have someone else walk you through it
[08:07] <mby> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[08:07] <mby> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[08:07] <bayzider> erUSUL: thanks =)
[08:07] <mby> still the same
[08:07] <smacky_wolf> mby: do you have a different hostname?
[08:07] <smacky_wolf> like, is your machine called something else?
[08:07] <mby> no, all is on my machine
[08:08] <harisund> mby are you sure the sql server is running on your machine?
[08:08] <smacky_wolf> yes, but is your machine called something other than localhost?
[08:08] <erUSUL> bayzider: no problem... wildcards characters are powerfull try to learn a bit about them
[08:08] <harisund> smacky_wolf: generally localhost always refers to the same machine.
[08:08] <raphael> hallo
[08:08] <mby> yes, I did few times mysql restart
[08:08] <raphael> do you know, where i can find a graphical bootloader for ubuntu dapper 6.06?
[08:09] <harisund> mby was there any errors? Or did it restart with no errors? Try to check if the correct port is being used? (3389 I think)
[08:09] <smacky_wolf> harisund, somehow I managed to make my point to chakat (my machine name) and it worked for a bit, but then something else broke o.o
[08:09] <infidel> vickythedoc: ok which webcam do you have?
[08:09] <boudahxl_> cd /
[08:10] <timshel> hello, i recently installed and updated dapper on my compaq presario 2700 laptop. i've been working on it for a week now and have had trouble with it in that it randomly 'freezes' on me during operation
[08:10] <timshel> could anyone give me some advice on how to correct this?
[08:10] <raphael> i am looking for a graphical bootloader, can anybody help me, please?
[08:10] <npster> raphael: There is no such thing
[08:11] <yacek19> how to lock specific version of package, so it will not be updated?
[08:11] <erUSUL> timshel: take a llok at the logs for some clue ( /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog etc)
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> timshel: HAve you done anything other than a clean install? Dual booting..., use automatix or easyubuntu or mm stuff
[08:11] <timshel> erUSUL: i'll remember to do so
[08:12] <erUSUL> timshel: you can do it now if you have access to the machine
[08:12] <timshel> jack_sparrow: i did a clean install hoping to fix the problem. previously i had dapper installed as an upgrade from breezy. after the clean install my only system change was the os update
[08:12] <zyclop> who in here knows about tcp/ip and arp?
[08:12] <timshel> erUSUL: brb
[08:12] <npster> zyclop: go to w3schools.com
[08:13] <vickythedoc> clicksmart 310 logitech infidel
[08:13] <infidel> vickythedoc: is it usb?
[08:13] <zyclop> npster: well, I'll try that. thx
[08:13] <vickythedoc> yes infidel
[08:13] <infidel> vickythedoc: is it plugged in?
[08:13] <kitche> mby: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html half way down the page
[08:13] <vickythedoc> lol infidel yep!
[08:14] <kitche> mby: you might as well reset the password to make sure there is no password
[08:14] <vickythedoc> it says somethign about being behind a firewall, but i dont have one i dont think :-s
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[08:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[08:14] <npster> !firewall > vickythedoc
[08:14] <bruenig> iptables --flush
[08:15] <vickythedoc> huh npster
[08:15] <infidel> vickythedoc: yeah i had that same problem too, go to preferences then other and on configure webcam
[08:16] <kitche> mby: you there
[08:16] <vickythedoc> yeah thats where it said that its behind a firewall or router
[08:16] <no_dog> I can't seem to use nautilus scripts. I downloaded one (audio-convert) through the repository, and the only help info on it that I can find seems to suggest that I can just right-click on a file in nautilus, and the script should appear in a "scripts" menu, but none appears. Do I need to somehow explicitly enable this functionality?
[08:16] <vickythedoc> hmm i think i have a router :/
[08:17] <raphael> is there a tool to manage grub in ubuntu without the terminal?
[08:17] <tengil> for some reason my usb has stopped auto detecting what i connect to it. before it could detect my psp and such but it stopped. im trying to get it to read a usb memory stick now. the only thing i can think of is that i did a kernel upgrade recently that was suggested by ubuntu
[08:17] <b1shop1> can i poke your brains and inquire about what types of apps you ppl use for project management and time tracking?  i need something
[08:17] <infidel> vickythedoc: you all ports open on your router?
[08:18] <infidel> raphael: what? are you a linux user?
[08:18] <raphael> yes
[08:18] <NthDegree> b1shop1, do you mean a PIM app?
[08:18] <kitche> tengil: probably the kernel doesn't have something that autodetection needs
[08:18] <vickythedoc> i havnt a clue infidel, im not that great at computers, i dont know my router password or anything, dad set it up and has forgotten it
[08:18] <bruenig> raphael, I have seen some script I think that had a gui but it looked kind of crappy and probably can't meet everything you need
[08:18] <vickythedoc> (plus i dont know what a port it)
[08:18] <NthDegree> vickythedoc, use a pencil in the reset hole
[08:19] <NthDegree> then it will reset that password to it's default
[08:19] <infidel> vickythedoc: lol, yeah you need to check that
[08:19] <raphael> my friend found a tool to make grub look better in ubuntu, but he doesn't remember the name
[08:19] <crocd> b1shop1: i saw something a while ago I wll see if i have a link for it
[08:19] <tengil> kitche: when you dont compile the kernel yourself what does ubuntu use to decide what to build in and what to include as modules?
[08:19] <vickythedoc> ok NthDegree, ill try that later, infidel i have to run now anyway, will you be around in a few house?
[08:20] <bruenig> raphael, here is a graphical grub editor http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=7566&d=1143245379
[08:20] <raphael> thx
[08:20] <NthDegree> vickythedoc, people will always be around to help
[08:20] <NthDegree> ;-)
[08:20] <yacek19> how to lock specific version of package, so it will not be updated?
[08:20] <timshel> erUSUL / jack_sparrow: alright i have access to it now. i checked both logs; is there anything in particular that i'm looking for?
[08:20] <goki-> Whenever I try to check something out with svn, it just hangs, and won't even respond to ctrl-c
[08:20] <killown> W: GPG error: http:/..... Release: As assinaturas a seguir no puderam ser verificadas devido a chave pblica no estar disponvel : NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E  what I do?
[08:20] <infidel> vickythedoc: no i need to get to bed in about an hour i have to work tomorrow i'm in japan right now so our hours are different
[08:20] <goki-> is there something wrong with dapper svn?
[08:20] <kitche> tengil: I m not sure if their config you can get
[08:20] <vickythedoc> NthDegree: thanks, i feel so stupid, i try and read the support files onl;ine but they are gibberish
[08:21] <NthDegree> vickythedoc, if you are used to reading gibberish it becomes readable after a while :p
[08:21] <tengil> kitche: isnt there some modules that is needed that i can try to load?
[08:21] <bruenig> raphael, but all it allows you to do is change timeout options and default boot up options
[08:21] <infidel> you know what is wild is i just tried my webcam and it cam right up
[08:21] <lupine_85> killown: you need to add the GPG public key of the repo to apt's keyring
[08:21] <vickythedoc> ok well thanks for your help infidel *hug*
[08:21] <lupine_85> it's only a warning, though, so not essential to do it
[08:22] <killown> lupine_85 how I found it?
[08:22] <vickythedoc> so i take it you are a geek or nerd NthDegree hehe
[08:22] <infidel> ok vickythedoc take care
[08:22] <lupine_85> apt-key
[08:22] <lupine_85> e.g. sudo apt-key add <key-filename>
[08:22] <killown> lupine_85 what file?
[08:22] <lupine_85> the GPG key
[08:22] <killown> I not found gpg
[08:23] <lupine_85> you'd get it from the mainter of the repository in question
[08:23] <lupine_85> maintainer, rather
[08:23] <killown> lupine_85 ok thanks
[08:23] <lupine_85> np
[08:23] <bilss_> hi
[08:23] <bruenig> when using xchat, there is occasionally a red line that shows up horizontally across the screen, what is the purpose of that
[08:23] <wglenncamp> This is killing me!  Serously noob question.  How do I create a virtual server under ubuntu/apache.  Where do I need to add settings to point xxx.domain.com to a specific directory
[08:23] <earthian> who is good here with hardware/drivers ???
[08:23] <infidel> bruenig: to confound you
[08:23] <killown> I want full support in apt-get
[08:23] <wglenncamp> I know it's in apache2.conf, but what do I add?
[08:23] <earthian> i have an issue with my two processors
[08:23] <killown> where I find ultimate sources.list?
[08:24] <bruenig> it really is bothering me. I have tried to derive some sort of pattern but it appears to be random
[08:24] <bilss_> erUSUL: I notticed on reboot something about codec atiixp reset timeout?
[08:24] <ChaosFan> killown: there is no such thing as an "ultimate" something
[08:24] <lupine_85> !best
[08:24] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:24] <crocd> bruenig: i also had that for a while, i havent seen it recently
[08:24] <infidel> bruenig: try #xchat
[08:24] <killown> hm
[08:24] <bayzider> where in the fonts dirrectiory?
[08:25] <goki-> Has anyone noticed corruption of gnome widgets, odd coloured buttons, different coloured sections on scrollbars, etc?
[08:25] <crocd> MrObvious: how is that site coming along
[08:25] <vickythedoc> NthDegree:  sorry i didnt mean to offend, i was kidding, *hug*
[08:25] <atk> Hi. How to make vlc stream video and play audio locally?
[08:26] <bruenig> the explanation of from #xchat is that that line appears to show where the chat was when you left xchat, where you last read so that you can catch up more easily
[08:26] <earthian> who is good here with hardware/drivers ???
[08:26] <earthian> who is good here with hardware/drivers ???
[08:26] <earthian> i have an issue with my two processors
[08:26] <earthian> :S
[08:26] <timshel> erUSUL / jack_sparrow: alright i have access to it now. i checked both logs; is there anything in particular that i'm looking for?
[08:26] <raindog> After installing the kubuntu-desktop it has changed the intial splash/loading sequence screen.  Is there a way to retrieve the default orange/red one?
[08:26] <NthDegree> vickythedoc, i wasn't offended
[08:26] <bayzider> any one know?
[08:26] <crocd> bruenig: interesting, i havent seen it recently so i must have switched it off.
[08:27] <vickythedoc> good :)
[08:27] <bruenig> crocd, minimize xchat and wait for 25 seconds, then maximize it
[08:27] <vickythedoc> bye, be back in a few hours
[08:27] <NthDegree> i was just a little late responding
[08:27] <NthDegree> cya soon :-)
[08:27] <finalbeta> I assume ubuntu 6.06 won't be upgrading to the new gnome? will it be possible to upgrade yourself without braking apt etc?
[08:27] <sval> bayzider: /usr/share/X11/fonts/
[08:28] <bayzider> i thought it was .fonts
[08:28] <crocd> bruenig: nope not doing it.
[08:28] <bruenig> hmmm
[08:28] <thetictacaddict> can I stop nautilus from running when gnome starts?
[08:28] <bruenig> that is a cool feature now that I think of it
[08:28] <crocd> i did something with some settings that might have changed it bruenig
[08:28] <earthian> is here anybody that knows anything about how kernel handles procesors?
[08:28] <earthian> :S
[08:28] <earthian> if yea plz rise your hand and i will annoy you :o
[08:29] <earthian> or better word abuse /o\
[08:29] <alekz> hi guys, i try to see System > About ubuntu and i get this error message: could not launch menu item, details: failed to excute child process "yelp" ( no such file or directory ) <-- Can someone help me ?
[08:30] <tengil> kitche: dmesg says  usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 24 when i connect but i get no new device in /dev any more ideas?
[08:30] <stefg> alekz: sudo apt-get install yelp :-)
[08:30] <sval> alekz: try to reinstall yelp
[08:30] <alekz> let me try thanks
[08:31] <alekz> can i see with yelp the ubuntu version ?
[08:31] <kitche> tengil: you probably won't get new device node
[08:31] <tengil> kitche: how should i mount it then?
[08:31] <usuario> usuario
[08:31] <usuario> usuario
[08:31] <infidel> tengil: nothing in /media
[08:32] <bruenig> alekz, just do sudo apt-get install yelp
[08:32] <stefg> alekz: yelp is the general help viewer in gnome. Did you fiddle with firefox, so that it got uninstalled?
[08:32] <tengil> infidel: no it did that automatically before but with ubuntus suggested kernel upgrade it stopped
[08:32] <alekz> stefg i have yelp running now =)
[08:33] <usuario> usuario
[08:33] <earthian> can somebody explain if there is everything ok with my CPUs??? DMESG output fragment: [17188236.432000]  powernow-k8: Found 2 AMD Athlon 64 / Opteron processors (version 1.50.4)
[08:33] <usuario> usuario
[08:33] <earthian> [17188236.432000]  powernow-k8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure
[08:33] <earthian> ...
[08:34] <finalbeta> Lols, alacarta made it into default gnome, that must be the slowest application ever. There is a much newer version of it then in ubuntu?
[08:34] <stefg> earthian: how many CPUs do you see in system monitor?
[08:34] <dooglus> where I try to play a movie with mplayer, it complains: "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll".  I've seen this before, and fixed it, but I forget how.  Any idea?
[08:35] <earthian> stefg, i see two CPUs in cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:35] <Luke-Jr_work> How can I install Ethereal/Wireshark? :\
[08:35] <earthian> dunno about system monitor.. dont have it
[08:35] <tengil> kitche: infidel should i have something in /proc/bus/usb/ ?
[08:35] <dooglus> Luke-Jr_work: use apt-get or synaptic or aptitude
[08:35] <stefg> earthian: so don't worry about your screwed bios, linux does'nt use it anyway :-)
[08:36] <earthian> :S
[08:36] <infidel> tengil: what does lsusb show?
[08:36] <earthian> my bios is kinda good
[08:36] <earthian> hm.. i will go check the driver
[08:36] <finalbeta> Luke-Jr_work, sudo apt-get install ethereal I guess, wireshark is not in the repo's I believe.
[08:36] <tengil> infidel: Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 and Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[08:37] <Luke-Jr_work> finalbeta: neither is ethereal...
[08:37] <timshel> can someone suggest a system monitor app that will watch my laptops' temperature n' such?
[08:37] <dooglus> !info ethereal
[08:37] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[08:37] <Luke-Jr_work> However the following packages replace it:
[08:37] <Luke-Jr_work>   wireshark
[08:37] <antiPosix> where can I find the ubuntu equiv to /etc/init.d/rc.local
[08:37] <timshel> please*
[08:37] <stefg> !info gkrellm
[08:37] <ubotu> gkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB
[08:37] <finalbeta> it is Luke-Jr_work got it installed, enabled all repo's, multiverse/universe?
[08:37] <infidel> tengil: sudo lsusb -v
[08:37] <Luke-Jr_work> it should be in main, shouldn't it?
[08:38] <sureshot> hey all how do i install a rpm package in ubuntu <--- newbie
[08:38] <stefg> !info alien
[08:38] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[08:38] <Luke-Jr_work> sureshot: you shouldn't, really-- otherwise, try alien
[08:38] <finalbeta> Luke-Jr_work, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ << use that site to search for package info.
[08:38] <tengil> infidel: it shows alot. what am i looking for?
[08:39] <earthian> i have my latest CPU drivers that just downloaded from amd.com now i need to rebuild the kernel and include them
[08:39] <sureshot> i need to install an ati driver from the ati site it came in rpm format
[08:39] <sureshot> thanks
[08:39] <earthian> how do i do it?
[08:39] <alekz> where can i see my ubuntu version if im not on dapper
[08:39] <earthian> ;S
[08:39] <hondje> alekz: cat /etc/issue
[08:39] <dcwChris>  I do know about man and I knew about some other way but I forgot it can anyone help?
[08:39] <finalbeta> Luke-Jr_work, it's inside universe
[08:39] <alekz> thanks
[08:39] <finalbeta> Luke-Jr_work, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ethereal&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[08:39] <Luke-Jr_work> why? I thought universe was for questionably licensed stuff?
[08:39] <timshel> could anyone suggest a system moniter app to monitor laptop temperature please?
[08:39] <killown> anyone has ultimate sources.list?
[08:40] <dcwChris> Is there any documentation installed on Ubuntu systems and if so how do you access it?
[08:40] <stefg> timshel: gkrellm, and a couple of plugins
[08:40] <timshel> stefg: thanks
[08:41] <redloff> Hi, I have to print something in extended ascii from an old program emulated on dosemu.. instead of ascii frames, my printer (hp lj 3055) prints some garbage, I've heard that I have to set the printer in a text-only printing mode, is that right? how do I do that?
[08:41] <raindog> After installing the kubuntu-desktop it has changed the initial splash/loading sequence screen.  Is there a way to retrieve the default orange/red one?
[08:41] <infidel> tengil: DeviceRemovable    0x30
[08:41] <earthian> i have my latest CPU drivers that just downloaded from amd.com now i need to rebuild the kernel and include them
[08:41] <earthian> how do i do it?
[08:42] <tengil> infidel: i find DeviceRemovable    0x00 0x70 and DeviceRemovable    0x00 0x40
[08:42] <kitche> earthian: huh amd has drivers for cpu?
[08:42] <infidel> tengil: so it does find it, what does dmesg show?
[08:42] <Luke-Jr_work> Package wireshark is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:42] <no_dog> I can't seem to use nautilus scripts. I downloaded one (audio-convert) through the repository, and the only help info on it that I can find seems to suggest that I can just right-click on a file in nautilus, and the script should appear in a "scripts" menu, but none appears. Do I need to somehow explicitly enable this functionality?
[08:42] <Luke-Jr_work> that's with universe
[08:43] <earthian> kitche, http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9033,00.html
[08:43] <abhinay> when does the Gnome 2.16 will be released in sources ?
[08:43] <WineO> What are recommended movie players with firefox plugins for ubuntu/64?
[08:43] <crocd> earthian: support for the processors are buillt into the kernel, you dont need drivers for it
[08:43] <lupine_85> abhinay: in edgy?
[08:43] <kitche> abhinay: gnome already released sources
[08:43] <tengil> infidel: usb 1-6: USB disconnect, address 24 and usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 25 when im connecting the stick
[08:43] <Luke-Jr_work> I was actually considering installing too....
[08:43] <earthian> seems that my powernowd does not support MP
[08:43] <earthian> i have two processors
[08:44] <earthian> :S
[08:44] <sureshot> ok <--- newbie again but what would be the command line for alien to install an rpm package
[08:44] <exs> how do we upgrade to gnome 2.16?
[08:44] <gabe__> i would like to know the same thing as exs
[08:44] <hondje> http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/
[08:44] <kitche> earthian: anyways those are probably already in the kernel atleast the vanilla ones
[08:44] <hondje> voila!
[08:44] <crocd> earthian: it looks like it is software for cool and quiet tech, i have dual core amd64 bit system and i will have a look at it
[08:44] <tengil> infidel: everytime i remove it and insert it again those addresses increment by one
[08:44] <Linuturk_code> exs gabe__ if you want to have 2.16, I'd suggest waiting for Edgy
[08:45] <kevinG> Has anyone used the install script that installs 32 bit Firefox on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[08:45] <exs> ok
[08:45] <earthian> i have dingle core dual cpu system
[08:45] <exs> whys it so hard to upgrade gnome?
[08:45] <alekz> how can i set that my windows partition be mounted at startup ?
[08:45] <gabe__> i dont understand why apt cant just do it now
[08:45] <exs> it should be made easy, right?
[08:45] <infidel> tengil: yeah well stop that
[08:45] <tengil> infidel: done....
[08:45] <earthian> would be nice to have processors save power when idle for both of us right ? :)
[08:45] <crocd> alekz: set it up in fstab
[08:45] <lupine_85> exs: this is the whole point behind ubuntu
[08:45] <Linuturk_code> exs gabe__ it's not that it's hard, but you'll have a lot less problems with the official release from Ubuntu at the end of October
[08:45] <lupine_85> keep everything stable on the desktop
[08:45] <jfletcher> whats the cmd to get rid of the whole of gnome?
[08:46] <gabe__> ok thx i guess thats not that long of a wait
[08:46] <alekz> crocd i tought i did it, but is not working :(
[08:46] <tengil> infidel: ok what should i do now then? :)
[08:46] <sureshot> can anyone tell me what the command line would be to install an rpm with alien
[08:46] <stefg> exs: you didn't get the concept right. Why do you think a new release of ubuntu is scheduled every 6 months?
[08:46] <lamb> quick question here, whats the easiest way to get gnome 2.16 on dapper??
[08:46] <infidel> tengil: what sda is it right now?
[08:46] <tengil> infidel: it doesnt say anything about being a sda in dmesg
[08:46] <crocd> earthian: initialy ubuntu uses powernod to throttle speed but i found it limited the CPU output, which is why i uninstalled it
[08:47] <tengil> the only sda device in /dev is my hd sda1 sda2 and sda3
[08:47] <exs> stefg:  no poin in being sarcastic to me
[08:47] <cwillu> !hostname
[08:47] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[08:47] <infidel> tengil: which are what?
[08:47] <crocd> alekz: check the options to mount the partition as it would have a mistake in it.
[08:47] <Luke-Jr_work> guess it's back to Gentoo....
[08:47] <someusernoob> sureshot: alien --help
[08:47] <jmitchj> I wonder if someone could give me their opinion of running linux on an external hard drive?
[08:47] <Killer_One> d
[08:48] <lupine_85> jmitchj: possible as long as your BIOS supports it, but a PITA
[08:48] <alekz> crocd do u have any link to see an explame or something like ?
[08:48] <Linuturk_code> exs, ubuntu's release schedule is matched with gnome's on purpose so the latest and greatest can be delivered with each new Ubuntu release, and at the same time, have it stable
[08:48] <jmitchj> PITA?
[08:48] <stefg> exs: i can't find any sarcasm in what i said... except maybe the fact that it's always wiser to think before complaining...
[08:48] <tengil> infidel: sda1-3 is my os partition, my swap partition and a storage partition
[08:48] <r000t> does someone here know how to edit the menu.1st so that i get 1280x1024 during startup and in my console
[08:48] <brianski> here's a strange one... http://pastebin.ca/163645
[08:48] <earthian> hm
[08:49] <exs> stefg:  wasn't complaining
[08:49] <infidel> tengil: what have you done besides upgrade the kernel?
[08:49] <brianski> deluser thinks a user is logged on, when they're not :(
[08:49] <earthian> powernod? never heard of it
[08:49] <infidel> tengil: have you looked at it?
[08:49] <azureal> hi, i must've done something weird, for my default system font seemed to get smaller... (the changes are seen in xchat, gkrellm, my fluxbox menu + slit) ... any ideas how to increase it again?
[08:49] <exs> Linuturk_code:  yeah, so how come gnome 2.16 is out, but ubuntu (stable) new version isn't out?
[08:49] <tengil> infidel: nothing really. just been doing the upgrades that ubuntu suggest. and have i looked at what? those sda partitions i have in /dev?
[08:50] <hondje> C'mon, you can troll better than that
[08:50] <infidel> tengil: the kernel
[08:50] <earthian> crocd, i found smth interesting: https://launchpad.net/products/linux/+bug/33116
[08:50] <brianski> anyone have any ideas on that?
[08:50] <Linuturk_code> exs, because getting it stable takes time, work, and testing
[08:50] <exs> Linuturk_code:  ok fair enough, cheers.
[08:51] <infidel> tengil: what i the ?kernel you are using anyway
[08:51] <stefg> exs: you missed some important points, so stop arguing, please
[08:51] <exs> stefg: not argueing
[08:51] <Linuturk_code> exs, if you are really that eager, you can download the most recent testing version of edgy, but it isn't for production machines
[08:51] <Blob> What are recommended movie players with firefox plugins for ubuntu/64-bit?
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone recommend any learning material for programming in perl, preferably a pdf intro to programming
[08:51] <Linuturk_code> stefg, he isn't arguing, he's asking good questions
[08:51] <exs> Linuturk_code:  yeah that's ok.
[08:51] <tengil> infidel: im using kernel 2.6.15-26-amd64-server. How do i look at it then?
[08:52] <Linuturk_code> Blob, i use mplayer personally. search the wiki and forums for install instructions
[08:53] <gabe__> how do i make a program run every time i start my computer
[08:53] <kevinG> Has anyone used the install script that installs 32 bit Firefox on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[08:53] <Linuturk_code> gabe__, System > Administration > Sessions > Startup tab
[08:53] <stefg> !boot
[08:53] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:53] <bruenig> Blob, note that you won't be able to play everything regardless of the media player because of some codec problems
 system > preferences > sessions
[08:53] <infidel> tengil: you have the source for that kernel installed right?
[08:53] <NthDegree> kevinG, make a chroot
[08:53] <lupine_85> gabe: when your computer starts, or when X starts?
[08:54] <Linuturk_code> gabe__, it might be preferences like Paddy_EIRE said
[08:54] <Blob> bruenig, you mean program bugs, licensing issues, or what?
[08:54] <gabe__> x i would like it to run in the tray
[08:54] <bruenig> kevinG, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537, here you go
[08:54] <Linuturk_code> Blob, licensing issues
[08:54] <lupine_85> do what ^they^ said then :)
[08:54] <Linuturk_code> Blob, search the wiki for "restricted" to enable non free formats
[08:54] <kitche> Blob: you could install the restrictive-codecs
[08:55] <tengil> infidel: no it just upgraded it without getting the source. thats why i cant do make menuconfig or anything like that
[08:55] <Blob> kitche, and then would mplayer play them?
[08:55] <kevinG> Yeah, I already installed it, but I was just wondering where to find the actual install =S
I would not be sure on getting to run in the tray maybe it would be in the apps preferences
[08:55] <bruenig> kevinG, I haven't used that script but I have followed the step by step tutorial which I assume the script just follows
[08:55] <Assid> heya
[08:55] <kitche> Blob: it will play some other times it might not play right but it will play
[08:55] <Linuturk_code> !restricted > Blob
[08:55] <bruenig> kevinG, open up the script and look. I would assume that it would be in /opt or /usr/local/bin
[08:55] <Assid> im thiking of shifting my home machine to ubuntu.. how much different is it from debian?
[08:55] <shut-> guys
[08:55] <gabe__> the program i am refering to is firestarter its a firewall and i dont see it in the preferences anywhere
[08:56] <infidel> tengil: are you going to get the source?
[08:56] <shut-> i still cant get my printer working any help? :(
 thats running anyway
[08:56] <kitche> gabe__: it's not a firewall
[08:56] <Paddy_EIRE> i think
[08:56] <Paddy_EIRE> its a frontend
[08:56] <kitche> gabe__: it's just a gui overlay of iptables makes it easier to set it up
[08:56] <Linuturk_code> gabe__, that's just the configuratoin utility for the firewall, the firewall is active w/o that running
[08:56] <gabe__> oh i did not know that thanks
[08:56] <tengil> infidel: i guess i will then. Will i get the same config as is being used right now then you think?
[08:57] <Assid> hello?
[08:57] <bruenig> bye?
[08:57] <Linuturk_code> !ask
[08:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:57] <Linuturk_code> bah, is there a !hello?
[08:57] <Linuturk_code> ;p
[08:57] <bruenig> !hello
[08:57] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[08:58] <bruenig> it is a package
[08:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Can anyone recommend or know of anywhere which provides free pdf Intro to perl programming or the like, one thats for a real newb as in air steward approach :)
[08:58] <Mouldy> Hey all, Gaim keeps crashing whenever I return to the desktop from the screensaver (by moving the mouse or whatever). I have XGL & Compiz...any idea how to fix it?
[08:58] <Assid> im thiking of shifting my home machine to ubuntu.. how much different is it from debian?
[08:58] <gabe__> my monitor's default resolution is 1280x1024 but gnome wont let me use more than 1024 x 768 and i have the newest nvidia drivers does anyone know how i can fix that
[08:58] <finalbeta> ubuntu forums are so slow. :/
[08:58] <Assid> im pretty comfortable witht he likes of debian.. its just that the new releases are a bit too slow
[08:58] <bruenig> Assid, it uses debs and apt, in that way it is similar to debian
[08:58] <Mouldy> gabe__ you need to edit your /etc/X11.xorg.conf file to allow for other resolutions
[08:58] <Assid> how about the directory structure etc?
[08:58] <gabe__> thanks im new to linux i hope im not being annoying i love ubuntu
[08:59] <bruenig> and it has a /boot /home /usr /var, and a tone of others nice directories
[08:59] <Linuturk_code> Assid, I found Ubuntu more enjoyable that Debian. You can easily use a Live CD to get the feel of the system
[08:59] <bruenig> ton*
[08:59] <Mouldy> gabe__, no worries, everyone has to start somewhere =)
[08:59] <crocd> earthian: do you have any documentation on the installation as the readme is  quite slim
[08:59] <Intangir> anyone know where the best place to get answers for ESD is?
[08:59] <Assid> actually.. i got the 6.06 DVD with this months magazine
[08:59] <earthian> no
[08:59] <kitche> Assid: ubuntu is debian but better release cycles and updates
[08:59] <Intangir> esd seems to be horribly HORRIBLY inadiquately documented..
[08:59] <earthian> i am a linux newbie :o
[08:59] <bruenig> !fixres
[08:59] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:59] <Linuturk_code> gabe__, i was just like you about 3 months ago. Now I'm the forum moderator for my local LUG
[08:59] <stefg> Assid: not different in ters of features, but very different in terms of usability... (almost) no surprises, consistent toolchain and sensible defaults
[08:59] <gabe__> sweet turk
[09:00] <Assid> any breakups if i use kernels from source?
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone here know how to use perl???
[09:00] <Mouldy> Hey all, Gaim keeps crashing whenever I return to the desktop from the screensaver (by moving the mouse or whatever). I have XGL & Compiz...any idea how to fix it?
[09:00] <Linuturk_code> Assid, custom kernels is out of my field, but the default ones have always worked great for me
[09:00] <killown> How I add support full repository in sources.list?
[09:00] <Linuturk_code> Mouldy, #ubuntu-xgl might be better for that problem
[09:00] <shut-> can someone help me
[09:01] <Mouldy> Linuturk_code, thanks
[09:01] <kitche> Assid: you just might need to install nvidia seperate and such without using the package
[09:01] <freesun> ALC861 codec... is it supported? I can't find it in ALSA page... is it supported or is support planned?
ask just man
[09:01] <Linuturk_code> !ask > shut-
[09:01] <gabe__> if i add 32 bit to the x11 conf file will that screw anything up?
[09:01] <Linuturk_code> !repositories > Linuturk_code
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> i like cake
[09:01] <kitche> gabe__: nope but some cards don't support 32bit
[09:01] <Krank> What are the major new features in Edgy over Dapper? Seemed very similar..
[09:01] <Linuturk_code> !repositories > killown
[09:01] <Mouldy> gabe__, just use the 24bit, from what I understand, it's the same as 32bit pretty much
[09:01] <stefg> Assid: that depends... ubuntu kernels are heavily patched (not always to the good side), but if you know yourself which patches you need you'll get along. I don't use the stock-ubuntu kernel myself (due to some bugs on the k7 build) but build my own with kpkg
[09:02] <shut-> i did ask
[09:02] <shut-> can someone tell me how to set my printer up
[09:02] <Assid> okay .. cause mostly for apache/php/mysql and a few others. i normally use source compiles
[09:02] <gabe__> ok thanks
[09:02] <bruenig> killown, I am a little unsure of your question, if you want to enable all the commented out repositories. Just do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst, then look in there where there is a # deb (anywhere you see a # followed by the word "deb") delete the #, save the file then do sudo apt-get update
[09:02] <Assid> even the kernel
[09:02] <earthian> gabe__, 24bit is what your eyes can see.. anything above is useless ;)
[09:02] <Assid> stefg: what kinda patches does it normally require
[09:02] <kitche> Assid: you just have to install gcc and such to be able to compile
 then whats the point
[09:03] <Linuturk_code> shut-, can you tell me what color my desk is? We need more details. What kind of printer? do you see it listed on www.linuxprinting.org? have you tried to add it via the add printer gui in gnome?
[09:03] <killown> but I want install nautilus-media
[09:03] <killown> I not foud it
[09:03] <tengil> infidel: is it linux-source-2.6.15 that i should get with apt-get install or?
[09:03] <earthian> point is that 32bits are basically used for example in press
[09:03] <saiko> hi, can someone help me with unrar command, i need to extract 4-part archive with password ?
[09:03] <Linuturk_code> killown, did you get the links from ubotu?
[09:03] <shut-> no
[09:03] <killown> yes
[09:03] <Blob> Does gstreamer have a firefox plugin?
[09:03] <kitche> saiko: just unrar one file and it should unrar the others
[09:03] <stefg> Assid: in my case i only apply the ck-patches for better realtime support. If you need bootsplash or special filesystems like squashfs you'd want these... but vanilla kernels work as well
[09:03] <bruenig> killown, what is your native language?
yeah
[09:04] <shut-> my printer is a canon pixma ip 1600
[09:04] <Linuturk_code> killown, the instructions are there to add the additional repositories
[09:04] <infidel> tengil: did you try synaptic
[09:04] <tengil> ok ill try that
[09:04] <Linuturk_code> shut-, search for that printer on linuxprinting.org
[09:04] <Linuturk_code> shut-, see if it is supported
[09:04] <Blob> Paddy_EIRE, Is it a separate install?  Firefox doesn't show it in the plugins list, but I DO have gstreamer installed
[09:04] <shut-> i found it there
[09:04] <killown> I know add repositories but I not found repository for nautilus-media package
[09:04] <shut-> yesterday
[09:05] <bab> does anyone know of any ipsec servers that can be implemented so you only need PSK (Pree Shared Keys)  eg something easy for the clients to set up
[09:05] <kitche> Blob: you have to install the plugin for firefox
[09:05] <javier> hi
[09:05] <Mouldy> anyone know of a command to see all devices/computers connected to the network?
[09:05] <saiko> stupid me, didn't put the rar after part1 and * didn't work either, thx kitche
[09:05] <javier> is there any support for macs keyboards on ubuntu ?
[09:05] <Linuturk_code> shut-, ok, then add it via the Printer gui in gnome. if you aren't running gnome, join #kubuntu or #xubuntu for further instructions
[09:05] <Blob> kitche, OK, which package is that? Or do I symlink to a .so module?
[09:05] <bruenig> !nautilus-media
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus-media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Paddy_EIRE> blob: sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[09:05] <killown> :/
[09:06] <shut-> i dont know how to add printer via gui in gnome
[09:06] <Assid> stefg: i use asterisk on this as well.. and that is known to crack on some kernels
[09:06] <Linuturk_code> !printer > Linuturk_code
[09:06] <boudahxl_> In (menu) System->Preferences->Keyboard  (Tab)Layouts, I lost the list, is there any way to bring it back? Any ideas?
[09:06] <Mouldy> how do I find the IP address of my printer (connected via network)?
[09:06] <hmrocha> hi
[09:06] <kitche> Mouldy: print a test page if it's on a network printer
[09:06] <Linuturk_code> !printer > shut-
[09:06] <stefg> Assid: but a properly configured plain vanilla kernel shouls do the job
[09:06] <hmrocha> how can i set the hostname of a box with dhclient?
[09:06] <Paddy_EIRE> blob: is it working now
[09:06] <hmrocha> i can't find anything that helps me
[09:07] <kitche> Mouldy: by pressing the button on the print server
[09:07] <Blob> hmm trying to install totem-firefox, get these errors: Depends: libdbus-1-1 (>=0.36.2) but it is not installable and Depends: libdbus-glib-1-1 (>=0.36.2) but it is not installable
[09:07] <Mouldy> kitche, the printer hasn't been installed yet, that's why I need the IP address...and the printer has a built in print-server
[09:07] <npster> I need help with a SPCA webcam. Help !?
[09:07] <Assid> stefg: im just trying to play a ubuntu vs debian pro/con in my head of whether to load debian or ubuntu.. i mean my server is stuck on debs.. aint touching that..
[09:07] <kitche> Mouldy: try printing a tst page those usually give the ip of them
[09:07] <Blob> Paddy_EIRE, nope -- I just posted install errors I get
ah you could try following this wiki -> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:08] <Mouldy> kitche, ok, I'll give it a go.
 all the gstreamer stuff you need is listed
[09:08] <stefg> Assid: regard ubuntu as sensibly preconfigured and stabilzed Debian sid....
[09:08] <Blob> Paddy_EIRE, OK -- will do
[09:09] <shut-> i sm in the printers thing now what?
[09:09] <shut-> am*
[09:09] <Mouldy> kitche, I just get an "Error while printing" message
i aint gone wrong with that guide yet
[09:09] <Linuturk_code> Assid, the easiest way to test it out is a live cd, it's the best way to evaluate the pro's and cons of different distros on specific machines
[09:09] <kitche> Mouldy: well did you walk over to the printer, or are you trying to do it though ubuntu?
[09:09] <Linuturk_code> shut-, there is an "Add Printer" Icon
[09:09] <shut-> ok
[09:10] <Linuturk_code> shut-, it's pretty self explanitory, try reading some
[09:10] <NthDegree> omg
[09:10] <Mouldy> kitche, Through ubuntu...there isn't a test-page setting on the printer though AFAIK
[09:10] <NthDegree> now i see what linus torvalds meant about gnome :p
[09:10] <Assid> but that means downloading the whole thing again:(
[09:10] <SlackRat> lmao
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone here got any beginners guide to programming reading material preferably in pdf?
[09:10] <MenZano> hm, can't I drag the channels/networks pane in xchat to the left, like in the Windows Silverex version?
[09:10] <Linuturk_code> NthDegree, what do you mean? what did he say about it?
[09:11] <Blob> Paddy_EIRE, I tried the sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin command but got errors and it won't install!
[09:11] <NthDegree> that if gnome is simplified to an idiot level only idiots will use it :p
[09:11] <kitche> Mouldy: there is a test page button try turning off the printer then press down the power button for 3 seconds then let go it might print a test page
[09:11] <Linuturk_code> Assid, but it will give you the best comparison
[09:11] <SlackRat> check ESRs homepage for The Art of Unix Programming
[09:11] <Mouldy> kitche, ok *gives it a go* brb
[09:11] <shut-> whats the defualt
[09:11] <shut-> theme
[09:11] <tengil> if i just let ubuntu install the custom kernel will it be using the same config as i get with downloading the kernel source?
[09:11] <npster> Can someone help ME with a SPCA webcam ?
[09:11] <kitche> SlackRat: your still using ubuntu I see
[09:11] <NthDegree> shut-, the default theme is called Human
[09:12] <shut-> k
  follow this guide first "How to install Multimedia Codecs" on that wiki then do the plugin firefox
[09:12] <SlackRat> kitche, just loaded it from dvd
[09:12] <Assid> well. my only issue would be updates and kernels
[09:12] <Assid> thats pretty much it
[09:12] <kitche> SlackRat: I decided to try it out also I mjust installing it at the moment
[09:13] <Mouldy> kitche, no luck, didn't print a test page
[09:13] <npster> #0000FF help
[09:13] <sureshot> hey how do i install a deb package
[09:13] <SlackRat> well, since i instaled from  the linux format dvd its been smooth
[09:13] <kitche> ok Mouldy what type of printer is it?
[09:13] <stefg> !install
[09:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:13] <SlackRat> but before that dappers been  a pita
[09:13] <sportman> fucken A
[09:13] <kitche> stefg: what about !install
[09:13] <sportman> ummm
[09:13] <Mouldy> kitche, hp 2600
[09:13] <sportman> how do i get my wireless working
[09:13] <npster> can someone help
[09:14] <sportman> the device needs to be enabled
[09:14] <sportman> somehow
[09:14] <NthDegree> !language > sportman
[09:14] <stefg> !wifi
[09:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:14] <sportman> well see
[09:14] <sportman> it detects the card
[09:14] <SlackRat> the linux format dvd auto installs kde and xfce, so youre not stuck with gnome
[09:14] <sportman> and everything
[09:14] <SlackRat> :P
[09:14] <sportman> the card just isnt turned on
[09:14] <shut->  Canon
[09:14] <shut-> 
[09:14] <shut-> PIXMA iP1600
[09:14] <shut-> 
[09:14] <shut-> N/A
[09:14] <shut-> 
[09:14] <shut-> No
[09:14] <shut-> 
[09:14] <shut-> No
[09:14] <shut-> 
[09:14] <shut-> 5.10
[09:14] <shut-> 
[09:14] <shut-> I couldn't find any drivers for this printer. I tried the drivers for ip1000 and ip1500 and they don't work. The best I could get was some noise out of the printer.
[09:14] <shut-> 
[09:14] <shut-> 13-Dec-2005
[09:14] <shut-> :(
[09:14] <NthDegree> shut-, use a pastebin
[09:14] <stefg> !enter
[09:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:15] <shut-> ok
[09:15] <donrosin> what is wthe command to get the bot to say something about a thing to ubuntu?
[09:15] <kitche> Mouldy: ok hang on a sec
[09:15] <kitche> ok the ubuntu install cd is messed up for me
[09:15] <donrosin> -!apache
[09:15] <shut-> so is there a way to get ip1600 to work
[09:15] <sureshot> i have a toshiba laptop with a 17'' wide screen how do i get ubuntu to reconize the card and monitor properly
[09:15] <earthian> crocd, that could be for you: http://wejp.k.vu/projects/howto_cnq_athlon_64_x2/ :)
[09:15] <stefg> !printer
[09:15] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:15] <donrosin> !apache
[09:15] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:15] <Mouldy> kitche, what were you looking for on it, I'll see if I can find it
[09:15] <donrosin> !printer apache
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printer apache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <sportman> hrmm
[09:15] <SlackRat> kitche , that sounds familiar, which install cd?
[09:15] <Krank> !edgy
[09:15] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:15] <NthDegree> SlackRat, actually I said that because it is very evident from what i've seen people put in this channel
[09:15] <donrosin> !apache
[09:15] <gabe__> sureshot u can try downloading the video card drivers from the manufacturers website
[09:15] <sportman> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[09:15] <sportman>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[09:15] <sportman>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[09:15] <sportman>           Encryption key:off
[09:15] <sportman>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[09:15] <sportman>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[09:16] <sportman>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[09:16] <stefg> !paste
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:16] <NthDegree> sportman, use a pastebin
[09:16] <Linuturk_code> !paste > sportman
[09:16] <kitche> SlackRat the i386-dekstop
[09:16] <sportman> sorry about that
[09:16] <sportman> accident
[09:16] <kitche> Mouldy: trying to figure out how to use a test page on it without using a computer
[09:16] <sureshot> i did they are in a rpm  got it broke down to a deb package and i dont know how to install it
[09:16] <Linuturk_code> sportman, just don't make it a habit ;p
[09:16] <donrosin> how can i install mysql?
[09:16] <npster> Can someone help with a Philips 200NC PC Camera ???????????????????????????????????????????????
[09:16] <Blob> Paddy_EIRE, the problem is that totem wants libdbus 1.1 but libdbus 1.2 is installed.  Could be a dependancy problem or just a packaging problem
[09:16] <Krank> !schedule
[09:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:17] <NthDegree> if I was op 2 people would be kicked by now
[09:17] <stefg> sureshot: sudo dpkg -i foobar.deb
[09:17] <bruenig> !patience
[09:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:17] <shut-> so i cant get it installed
[09:17] <Mouldy> kitche, I'll see if I can find the printer manual somewhere
[09:17] <sureshot> thanks man
[09:17] <sportman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22845
[09:17] <SlackRat> i ll try ubuntu as a second system, after suse 10.1 crapped out so badly
[09:17] <sportman> well mind taking a look?
[09:17] <Linuturk_code> kitche, look in your printer's documentation or on the manufactures website. usually it's just pressing a series of buttons or something like that
[09:17] <kitche> SlackRat: well I even did a X -configure and it still doesn't work
[09:17] <shut-> for
[09:17] <kitche> Linuturk_code: I know how to do it for mine
[09:17] <Dutchy__> how do i restart alsa?
[09:18] <quiet> is there any repos that have banshee for ubuntu?
[09:18] <kitche> Lintuk_code: I even know how to clean printers
[09:18] <stefg> !info banshee
[09:18] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB
[09:18] <SlackRat> kitsche, is it only X thats mucked up?
[09:18] <Dutchy__> (i presume to apply changes to it's conf i have to restart it)
[09:18] <NthDegree> shut-, be patient.  Have you tried the ubuntu forums?
[09:18] <quiet> it is?
[09:18] <quiet> wow.
[09:18] <quiet> thanks.
[09:19] <donrosin> !info mysql
[09:19] <ubotu> Package mysql does not exist in any distro I know
[09:19] <NthDegree> LMAO
[09:19] <npster> Can my computer with an ISP and Apache be a server for my page ??? Like www.npster.com.mk
[09:19] <lupine_85> !mysql-client
[09:19] <ubotu> mysql-client: mysql database client (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:19] <shut-> ?
[09:19] <Linuturk_code> donrosin, what are you looking for?
[09:19] <stefg> !lamp
[09:19] <kitche> SlackRat: yeah it's missing the mouse driver lol
[09:19] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:19] <sureshot> ok i did the sudo dpkg thing it said it was setting it up is that all
 that really should be working for you....u are using dapper right?
[09:19] <shut-> !forums
[09:19] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[09:20] <mindspin> npster: you'll need a fixed ip or dyndns
[09:20] <NthDegree> shut-, use the ubuntu forums if you need help with something major and aren't familiar with the basics of linux
[09:20] <donrosin> Linuturk_code,  a mysql thing :p
[09:20] <SlackRat> xorg is what keeps debian off this laptop....
[09:20] <NthDegree> people there have the time to write detailed howtos
[09:20] <npster> mindspin: My IP is dynamic
[09:20] <Linuturk_code> donrosin, please search synaptic instead of spamming us here
[09:21] <MKR> I only jave one howto, and it's brief =(
[09:21] <MKR> *have
[09:21] <mindspin> so you'll need dyndns, but I never used it
[09:21] <mindspin> google is your friend...
[09:21] <smacky_wolf> Anyone know which packages to kill off to remove GNOME from an upgraded Dapper Ubuntu system?
[09:21] <npster> mindspin: what is dyndns ?
[09:21] <SlackRat> MKR, have heard of RTFM? :P
[09:22] <MKR> I have
[09:22] <mindspin> a service which links an ip to your dynamical ip at home
[09:22] <smacky_wolf> man rtfm!
[09:22] <MKR> Why?
[09:22] <lupine_85> does anyone here have an en_US keymap ?
[09:22] <stefg> !rtfm
[09:22] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:22] <kaot> mindspin: actually it links a hostname to your ip, not ip to ip.
[09:22] <SlackRat> smacky_wolf: ubuntu-desktop?
[09:22] <MKR> The one howto I made wasn't covered in any manuals  knew of
[09:22] <smacky_wolf> SlackRat, ,3
[09:22] <mindspin> as I said, i never used it
[09:22] <MKR> Which is why I wrote it
[09:22] <smacky_wolf> <3 even
[09:22] <lupine_85> Can anyone on en_US tell me where  is ?
[09:22] <kitche> SlackRat: you know what if the mouse driver isn't install then I think ubuntu won
[09:23] <Blob> Paddy_EIRE, yep -- but there is a dependency problem.  the plugin specifies totem-gstreamer =0.1.2.1-0ubuntu~breezy1 but I have 1.4.3 dapper-updates installed.  I guess the plugin has not been updated in a while
[09:23] <SlackRat> kitche, laptop?
[09:23] <Linuturk_code> lupine_85, you might have to use character map
[09:23] <lupine_85> no, I'm sure it's around somewhere
[09:24] <compengi> Video codec 'DivX 5' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies. where can i get this plugin for totem?
[09:24] <lupine_85> just not sure where it is
[09:24] <Linuturk_code> lupine_85, it is probably a Alt+something
[09:24] <SlackRat> instead
[09:24] <kaot> !language
[09:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:24] <Dutchy__> lupine_85: im on en_US i think... dont see it on my keyboard layout though :|
[09:24] <lupine_85> shift+4 is $ in en_GB
[09:24] <kitche> SlackRat: nope it's a hp a305w desktop
[09:24] <lupine_85> grrr, americans ;)
[09:24] <SlackRat> compengi, google easy ubuntu and use that
[09:24] <NthDegree> SlackRat, I agree it's not fair that I can't tell people to learn the way I did - by reading the manual/documentation
[09:25] <kaot> NthDegree: it's a brave new world.  :\
[09:25] <MKR> It's fine to point someone to the manual I think
[09:25] <SlackRat> hmn, like i said tho, the linux format dvd was really a treat to install, unlike the alterative cd
[09:25] <MKR> Not "etfm", that's just mean and useless
[09:25] <MKR> *rtfm
[09:25] <lupine_85> I've never been told off for "man <command>" ;)
[09:25] <sportman> hrmm
[09:25] <compengi> SlackRat, for what do i need hints?
[09:25] <kitche> SlackRat: I m trying to install fromt eh main install cd o well off to try freespire
[09:25] <sportman> so yea
[09:25] <sportman> my wireless
[09:25] <SlackRat> NthDegree: its the only way to learn in the end
[09:25] <sportman> no bueno
[09:25] <sportman> :(
[09:25] <npster> CAN SOMEONE HELP with installation of a Philips 200NC PC Camera
[09:25] <npster> ???
[09:26] <compengi> SlackRat, i need a divx 5 plugin for my totem movie player
[09:26] <sportman> it shows up
[09:26] <kitche> compengi: easy ubuntu will help you out
[09:26] <kaot> npster: what do you think the odds are of someone having that exact camera?  You should considering googling that one.
[09:26] <sportman> but it wont work
[09:26] <sportman> :(
[09:26] <SlackRat> run the easyubuntu command and you get a gui to install codecs, java , flash, as you like
[09:26] <MKR> kaot: 918 people; it could happen
[09:26] <MKR> =P
[09:26] <SlackRat> cut n paste the script on that page
[09:27] <kaot> MKR: 880 of them are idling.  :D
[09:27] <MKR> pfft
[09:27] <Dutchy__> anyway, do i need to restart alsa after making changes to its conf? how do i do that if so
[09:27] <sportman> fucken a
[09:27] <sportman> :(
[09:27] <NthDegree> Dutchy__, easiest way is to restart the PC that restarts everything
[09:27] <shut-> :(
[09:27] <SlackRat> dont restart alsa, just alsactl store
[09:27] <NthDegree> !language
[09:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:27] <sportman> GRRR
[09:27] <shut-> i cant get my printer
[09:28] <sportman> it won't work at all
[09:28] <sportman> :(
[09:28] <sportman> POS
[09:28] <MKR> How do I download the internet on to a floppy disk? D:
[09:28] <Blob> Here's a weird error: while trying to install totem-gsteamer-firefox-plugin I get the message: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: "Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.2.1-0ubuntu1~breezy1) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed"  However, the real problem is that 1.4.3 *is* installed already and the package wants 1.2.1.  The message seems misleading.
[09:28] <sportman> is there any section for just wireless?
[09:28] <sportman> like a chat section
[09:28] <Dutchy__> NthDegree: im lazy :) and it would be useful to know :)
[09:28] <sportman> for ubuntu wireless
[09:28] <SlackRat> heh, youll have to type fscking for the other word
[09:28] <MKR> sportman, on IRC they're called channels
[09:28] <kaot> sportman: broadcoms are notoriously tricky to get working.  I think very few people have gotten them to work without pulling their hair out.
[09:28] <NthDegree> sportman, tried ndiswrapper
[09:28] <NthDegree> ?
[09:28] <Krank> On both the DVD and CD versions, is the initial install the same, just more packages on the DVD?
[09:28] <sportman> i have gotten it without ndis wrapper
[09:28] <sportman> i remember doing it
[09:29] <sportman> i got it working fine in breezy
[09:29] <Dutchy__> i got my ipw3945 wireless thing to work yesterday :) using it now :)
[09:29] <npster> kaot: It doesn't matter, someone should tell me how they installed their SPCA
[09:29] <sportman> but in edgy im having issues
[09:29] <NthDegree> Dutchy__, I believe /etc/init.d contains some startup scripts for things like alsa
[09:29] <kitche> MKR: they are also called rooms thre's no difference between what you call them
[09:29] <Dutchy__> NthDegree: thanks :)
[09:29] <SlackRat> Krank, i preferred the linux format dvd, they include kde and xfce in the initial install, dunno but the canonical dvd
[09:29] <MKR> Yeah, but it could confuse someone that might have the answer D:
[09:29] <MKR> but meh
[09:29] <Jowi> Blob: maybe you have the same package available in two apt locations (verify your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <NthDegree> Dutchy__, you'd open up a terminal and do something like this:
[09:29] <gabe__> if i install the 686 kernel and remove the 386 kernel will it make ubuntu run any faster?
[09:29] <sportman> is ndiswrapper installed NthDegree?
[09:29] <NthDegree> sudo -i
[09:29] <crocd> bruenig: i think i found the line option you mentioned!
[09:29] <Linuturk_code> sportman, you didn't say you were in edgy . . . go talk in #ubuntu+1 or submit a bug report
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> gabe__: it should, if you have a modern processor.
[09:30] <sportman> ok Linuturk_code
[09:30] <stefg> gabe__: yes, by placebo-effects
[09:30] <NthDegree> sportman, how am I supposed to know it's your PC
[09:30] <lupine_85>  Dutchy: so it's working fine now?
[09:30] <gabe__> thanks
[09:30] <kaot> gabe__: somewhat, yes, but you won't be completely "wowed" by it.
[09:30] <NthDegree> sportman, go on synaptic package manager and install it
[09:30] <Dutchy__> lupine_85: yeah works perfect
[09:30] <lupine_85> cool :)
[09:31] <NthDegree> sportman, if you dong't know how to do that then I really suggest you read the ubuntu documentation
[09:31] <Dutchy__> configured wpa_supplicant today for my uni's network (was very tricky too)
[09:31] <sportman> i know how to use synaptic NthDegree
[09:31] <SlackRat> DONT!!!
[09:31] <sportman> i was just asking if it was installed already
[09:32] <lupine_85> NthDegree, not "rtfmtrifoysff", then? ;)
[09:32] <NthDegree> wtf does that stand for?
[09:32] <Dutchy__> lawl never heard that one before, whats that :)
[09:32] <SlackRat> wtf was that?
[09:32] <lupine_85> you don't want to know :)
[09:32] <kaot> getting unruly 'round here, where are all the ops anyway?
[09:32] <NthDegree> do an /msg NthDegree
[09:32] <NthDegree> nowhere to be seen
[09:32] <Jowi> Blob: you might have specified a mirror too many (for example two mirrors pointing to "main"). remove one with synaptic or edit sources.list manually. afterwards, run apt-get update and try again.
[09:32] <Dutchy__> lupine_85: actually i do :) might have use for it sometime :P
[09:33] <NthDegree> hence why i said someone should op me
[09:33] <SlackRat> unruly as in ?
[09:33] <gabe__> i just downloaded staroffice and it is a .sh file can anyone tell me how to install it
[09:33] <NthDegree> unruly as in tons of rule breaking in here
[09:33] <NthDegree> gabe__, what are you doing?
[09:33] <Assid> err.. does debian's debs run on ubuntu?
[09:33] <lupine_85> gabe__: sh <filename>
[09:33] <lupine_85> Assid: not recommended
[09:33] <NthDegree> Assid, they do indeed
[09:33] <SlackRat> all i see is profanity, am i missing flagrant violations?
[09:33] <Assid> hrmm .  cool
[09:34] <lupine_85> 3rd party apps are usually OK
[09:34] <gabe__> thx
[09:34] <Assid> okay.. im gonna just backup my info and then work it out
[09:34] <Linuturk_code> NthDegree, if you really think this situation warrants the use of an op, use the command !ops. Personally, I don't think anything is out of hand. If you'd like to talk to an op in private, you can !ops > NthDegree and private message (or attempt to) them.
[09:34] <kaot> profanity is a flagrant violation.
[09:34] <stefg> gabe__: why did you even doenload that? oyu got openoffice installed already, so what's your point?
[09:34] <SlackRat> yeah, i m looking for the other violations
[09:34] <lupine_85> upgrading something like libc6.... or the kernel... is just asking for trouble, however
[09:34] <gabe__> thx
[09:35] <falcon3> Hi, my Konqueror isn't working anymore, but it is when i'm doing "kdesu konqueror", anyone an idea? i guess it has something to do with permissions. I got the error when i changed icons and bouncing busy cursor in kcontrol. I changed it back but the problem is still there :(
[09:35] <gabe__> im a college student and i get it free and i like it
[09:35] <NthDegree> lupine_85, i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.16 because the normal one sucks ass
[09:35] <lupine_85> lol
[09:35] <kitche> !rules
[09:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:35] <lupine_85> from the debian repo, or from source?
[09:35] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys that perl channel is very hostile whats up with that???
[09:35] <iratsu__> how do i enable xfonts?
[09:35] <falcon3> Paddy_EIRE: who's the bad guy there ?
[09:35] <NthDegree> Paddy_EIRE, you should see #python too
[09:35] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: anyone who uses perl is a spawn of Beelzebub
[09:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Im actually quite shocked and want to complain somewhere
[09:35] <lupine_85> everyone knows that
[09:35] <SlackRat> Paddy_EIRE: they have python envy :P
[09:36] <Linuturk_code> a bunch of snakes if you ask me ;p
[09:36] <lupine_85> perl != python
[09:36] <kaot> I"ve got 2.6.17 installed, but I haven't gotten everything quite working perfectly yet, so I stick with 2.6.15 mostly.
[09:36] <lupine_85> perl == bad php
[09:36] <Paddy_EIRE> maybe ill choose python then as my first progrmming language to learn
[09:36] <falcon3> Paddy_EIRE: who's the guy that's acting mean ?
[09:36] <kaot> lupine_85: >:(
[09:36] <kaot> perl is neat!
[09:36] <lupine_85> I'm using 2.6.17.9 and it's fine
[09:36] <kitche> any language can be mean if you don't leanr from their manuals
[09:36] <lupine_85> no usplash, but that's an advantage in my eyes
 i just left it was like <drz> or somethin like that
[09:37] <SlackRat> alot easier as a first language Paddy
[09:37] <falcon3> Paddy_EIRE: no <Botje> ?
[09:37] <lupine_85> Everyone's first language should be Pascal!
[09:37] <kaot> lupine_85: yeh I just haven't gotten around to figuring out what-all modules and things I need.  Some stuff works a little differently, the way I configured the kernel.  I'unno, I'll figure it out one of these days.
[09:37] <lupine_85> :)
[09:37] <frandavid100> do you know where I can download a brasero .deb, guys?
[09:37] <falcon3> lupine_85: aggreed
[09:37] <PathagenX> lupine_85, what about BASIC
[09:37] <falcon3> frandavid100: internet, probably
[09:37] <lupine_85> any starting-out-linux-programmer should look at lazarus: http://lazarus.freepascal.org/
[09:38] <lupine_85> PathagenX: as long as you're using a C=64, sure
[09:38] <Paddy_EIRE> pascal?? could some one help me get the ball rolling with learning a programming language I wish to contribute to Ubuntu
[09:38] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: the lazarus link
[09:38] <lupine_85> GUI apps in 3 clicks
[09:38] <SlackRat> python then, since ubuntu is devoted to python development
[09:38] <lupine_85> (alien the 3 rpms and install as usual)
[09:38] <falcon3> could someone plz help me with my problem, btw ? look up or ask me to repost it if you want
[09:38] <SlackRat> like their devoted to gnome initially
[09:38] <PathagenX> lupine_85, The FreeBASIC team would not like you saying that. Besides, I think that NOWADAYS, everyone should start out on Python.
[09:38] <iratsu__> how do i enable xfonts?
[09:39] <lupine_85> PathagenX: opinions, opinions...
[09:39] <Linuturk_code> falcon3, there is way to much traffic for us to "scroll up"
[09:39] <PathagenX> lupine_85, I have lots of those. ^-^
[09:39] <SlackRat> repost falcon
[09:39] <falcon3> Hi, my Konqueror isn't working anymore, but it is when i'm doing "kdesu konqueror", anyone an idea? i guess it has something to do with permissions. I got the error when i changed icons and bouncing busy cursor in kcontrol. I changed it back but the problem is still there :(
 cheers for your help...perl people are just mean or at least that channel is
[09:40] <lupine_85> isn't FreeBASIC a VB clone?
[09:40] <lupine_85> ping
[09:40] <shut-> my printer is 2 new
[09:40] <PathagenX> falcon3, Not to be annoying but use firefox and rox, not koqueror
[09:40] <shut-> :(
[09:40] <PathagenX> lupine_85, QuickBASIC clone.
[09:40] <lupine_85> sorry, missed everything for a minute there
[09:40] <falcon3> PathagenX: yes, but on my KDE it handles my desktop too, and i don't have any icons now anymore either
[09:40] <SlackRat> and what version, dapper? use system settings, not kcontrol
[09:40] <kaot> PathagenX: what's wrong with konqueror?
[09:40] <NthDegree> shut-, no it isn't it's probably from a company that doesn't like FOSS too much
[09:40] <lupine_85> pascal comes with decent wrappers for all system functions
[09:41] <lupine_85> can't really say the same for BASIC, IME
[09:41] <PathagenX> falcon3, your desktop is a different app. Have you rebooted, since installing KDE?
[09:41] <lupine_85> that, and basic != OOP
[09:41] <falcon3> PathagenX: yes i tried that without any luck
[09:41] <shut-> um its a ip 1600
[09:41] <riko> Hi, I just got my computer running with ndiswrapper, then when i rebooted my computer freezes at connecting to network... but it loads fine with the network in recovery mode?
[09:41] <PathagenX> falcon3, Dapper or Edgy?
[09:41] <NthDegree> shut-, but at any rate when edgy is finished try that, it may work on that
[09:41] <falcon3> PathagenX: Dapper
[09:42] <shut-> ?
[09:42] <kaot> riko: did you remember to blacklist bcm43xx?
[09:42] <shut-> what do u mean
[09:42] <kaot> riko: instead of just rmmod'ing it?
[09:42] <riko> kaot: it was never loaded
[09:42] <kaot> never?
[09:42] <NthDegree> shut-, the ubuntu you use right now is called Ubuntu Dapper Drake right?
[09:42] <kaot> that's strange.  Dapper sticks that in there by default.
[09:42] <shut-> um
[09:42] <riko> kaot: yea, but tell me again howto do it i'll try it...
[09:42] <NthDegree> shut-, the next Ubuntu will be called Ubuntu Edgy Eft
[09:42] <riko> in fact... i got it working by removing the marvel drivers from the kernel
[09:42] <shut-> when will it be out
[09:43] <Assid> okay time to install drapper drake
[09:43] <kitche> kaot: well bcm43xx won't work unless you use the fwcutter for it
[09:43] <SlackRat> falcon3: im guessing that using kcontrol is part of the problem, usethe ubuntu tool system settings
[09:43] <kaot> riko: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, add bcm43xx to the bottom
[09:43] <riko> but i installed prism... do you think that would interfere?
[09:43] <PathagenX> falcon3, can you try running 'konqueror' and 'kdesk<tab>' in a console and paste me the output, in PM?
[09:43] <lupine_85> kitche: or http:///www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx
[09:43] <NthDegree> shut-, it's in development, you could get it now but it's a little buggy
[09:43] <Assid> wish me lucj
[09:43] <kaot> kitche: ...yes.  I know.
[09:43] <falcon3> PathagenX: hold on
[09:43] <thedash> I keep getting "out of memory" errors while running Azureus, but I have plenty of disk space
[09:43] <lupine_85> but, erm, not the script
[09:43] <PathagenX> falcon3, Try SlackRat's advice first
[09:43] <shut-> i cant get it i dont got no cd's left
[09:44] <riko> kaot: i installed the prism package i think that's what's interfering... how do i remove it?
[09:44] <kitche> thedash: you ran out of memory or you ran out of Java VM memory
[09:44] <riko> im in the recovery console now
[09:44] <kaot> riko: the prism package?  that's for a whole other chipset, isn't it?
[09:44] <shut-> how long till it will be officaly done
[09:44] <riko> kaot: yea i thought i';d try it...
[09:44] <falcon3> SlackRat: System Settings is doing the same strange thing as konqueror is doing
[09:44] <riko> i dunno why but the wifi works fine in the recovery console
[09:44] <NthDegree> shut-, not that long maybe about 3-4 months or so
[09:44] <lupine_85> riko: what does lsmod show ?
[09:44] <SlackRat> hmn
[09:44] <lupine_85> the prism drivers or the ndiswrapper one?
[09:44] <falcon3> SlackRat: so i can't use system settings now either
[09:45] <NthDegree> shut-, then when it's officially done just upgrade to it :)
[09:45] <shut-> ok
[09:45] <kaot> riko: just run synaptic and search for prism, anything witha  grey box is installed, uninstall it.
[09:45] <shut-> ;p
[09:45] <Assid> wish me luck
[09:45] <SlackRat> new install?
[09:45] <PathagenX> falcon3, Okies. Get me some error reports
[09:45] <MKR> http://en.rian.ru/world/20060907/53629800.html
[09:45] <MKR> oops
[09:45] <MKR> wrong channel
[09:45] <sebastian929> hey does anyone here know how to install unreal tournamnet on a 64 bit system?
[09:45] <riko> i can't run anything cos im in the recovery mode tho
[09:45] <NthDegree> sebastian929, the original?
[09:45] <lupine_85> riko: apt-cache search prism
[09:46] <falcon3> SlackRat: http://sial.org/pbot/19522
[09:46] <PathagenX> apt-cache?
[09:46] <falcon3> PathagenX: http://sial.org/pbot/19522
[09:46] <PathagenX> dammit! I should really learn how to manage packages in deb
[09:46] <lupine_85> to find all the packages with prism in the name :)
[09:46] <Uqbar> hello. I have just dist-upgraded from dapper to edgy. in the process, gnome-netstatus-applet, which was in the notification area, crashed and I chose to "delete" it from the notification area. now I can't add it again to the notification area, but only to the panel.
[09:46] <NthDegree> sebastian929, if you mean the original UT GOTY then apt-get linux32 and try with that
[09:46] <sebastian929> ok
[09:46] <lupine_85> riko: how did you install it, actually?
[09:46] <lupine_85> a package? or make from source?
[09:46] <NthDegree> linux32 ut-installer.sh or w/e
[09:46] <sebastian929> thanks
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Uqbar: #ubuntu+1
[09:46] <NthDegree> then it imagines it's a 32-bit system
[09:46] <riko> ah, i installed linux-wan-ng from synaptic when it was working
[09:47] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:47] <Uqbar> fyrestrtr: k
[09:47] <lupine_85> ok, apt-get remove --purge linux-wlan-ng
[09:47] <lupine_85> that ought to work
[09:47] <Sp4rKy> i've some problem with thunderbird and discussion forum
[09:47] <earthian> wtf.. firefox crached :(
[09:47] <riko> okay... u think that could be the culpret?
[09:47] <Sp4rKy> i can get and read forum contents, but not answer
[09:47] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy: thunderbird does news and mail. Not forums
[09:48] <lupine_85> either way, make sure that you've set up an SMTP server
[09:48] <shut-> so when it upgrades u wont need to burn it again
[09:48] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, thunderbird do forums (the 4th choice on new account wizard)
[09:48] <NthDegree> shut-, dist-upgrade would download it all off the net for you so no CD needed
[09:48] <Uqbar> fyrestrtr: anyway I think my question belongs with dapper as well
[09:49] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy: that's a newsgroup...
[09:49] <lupine_85> ...not a forum
[09:49] <riko> woohoo! it works thanks guys
[09:49] <MKR> same thing
[09:49] <MKR> Modern forums are an evolution of usenet
[09:49] <lupine_85> doesn't make usenet a forum, though ;)
[09:49] <MKR> bah
[09:49] <kaot> yeah, what lupine_85 said.
[09:50] <PathagenX> I can't help you falcon3. All I reccomend is elementary things, like using synaptic to check for and fix broken packages, updating your repo info and dist-upgrading
[09:50] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, maybe, sorry , i'm french and english is a little bit difficult for me
[09:50] <kaot> who made thunderbird God of the Interweb to be renaming stuff like that?
[09:50] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy: does your news server support posting?
[09:50] <PathagenX> Sorry
[09:50] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, so, i can read newsgroup, but not write
[09:50] <lupine_85> kaot: thunderbird says newsgroup, don't worry
[09:50] <kaot> oh.
[09:50] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy:  ^ does your news server support posting? ^
[09:51] <lupine_85> many free ones don't
[09:51] <lupine_85> you could also try #ubuntu-fr
[09:51] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, i think (this is the server of my school), and other people wrote in it
[09:51] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, i've already tried
[09:51] <shut-> ok
[09:51] <graft> hey how come avahi doesn't find any services? i know there's at least a buncha itunes shares because banshee-daap picks 'em up.......
[09:51] <shut-> thanks
[09:51] <shut-> for confriming
[09:51] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy: best to check with them. You might need them to esclate your privileges or something
[09:51] <kaot> Sp4rKy: you get any error messages?
[09:52] <Sp4rKy> kaot, just a timeout
[09:52] <Sp4rKy> does newsgroup use nntp or smtp for post ?
[09:52] <graft> nntp
[09:52] <falcon3> PathagenX: any idea ?
[09:52] <lupine_85> they can use either, but normally nntp
[09:52] <riko> hrmmm... does anyone know why network-manager would say i have no connections?
[09:53] <lupine_85> :D
[09:53] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, k, but for out server thunderbird just ask me for smtp servers
[09:53] <graft> riko: for some reason network-manager stumbles if you have uncommented lines in /etc/network/interfaces - i had to knock everything out of that before it would work properly
[09:53] <cwillu> riko: bad way to ask what you're trying to ask
[09:53] <lupine_85> riko: network-manager is a pile of spaghetti
[09:54] <cwillu> riko: "it's because you have no connections"  :p
[09:54] <kaot> oh good I"m glad I"m not the only one who doesn't trust network-manager
[09:54] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy: then give it one
[09:54] <ubuntu> is here someone who plays wow on ubuntu?
[09:54] <riko> haha, yea fair enough... is there a better program to use to monitor ur connections?
[09:54] <lupine_85> rutilt is the only decent GUI program I've found
[09:54] <lupine_85> mostly used for Ralink cards though
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !info rutilt
[09:54] <ubotu> Package rutilt does not exist in any distro I know
[09:54] <cwillu> ubuntu:  I've heard of it, haven't had time to try myself
[09:54] <PathagenX> I can't help you falcon3. All I reccomend is elementary things, like using synaptic to check for and fix broken packages, updating your repo info and dist-upgrading
[09:54] <cwillu> ubuntu:  might wanna look at cedega
[09:54] <lupine_85> it's not in the normal repos :)
[09:55] <ubuntu> k thx cwillu
[09:55] <lupine_85> deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ dapper main
[09:55] <lupine_85> package ralink-config
[09:55] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, i've already add a smtp account, but with it i've a timeout
[09:55] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy: sounds like a misconfiguration somewhere
[09:55] <riko> lupine_85: that's for the network stuff?
[09:55] <lupine_85> either at your end or the server
[09:55] <lupine_85> riko: yes
[09:56] <lupine_85> Sp4rKy: does the server use SMTP AUTH? (and have you got it set up, if so?)
[09:56] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, yes and yes
[09:56] <lupine_85> best to contact whoever admins the server, then
[09:56] <lupine_85> sounds like a problem at their end
[09:57] <Sp4rKy> lupine_85, k thx
[09:57] <Sp4rKy> :)
[09:57] <lupine_85> "why can't you fix it?!", lol
[09:57] <djm62> :)
[09:58] <Trackilizer> In which folder are the Firefox bookmarks saved in?
[09:59] <djm62> My CD/DVD RW drive in my Acer laptop does not write CDs (or, I would presume, DVDs)
[10:00] <Bazzi> Trackilizer: just do a find on bookmarks.html on your home directory
[10:00] <djm62> can anyone give me any pointers to how I can troubleshoot it or discover that it will never work?
[10:00] <no_dog> I can't seem to use nautilus scripts. I downloaded one (audio-convert) through the repository, and the only help info on it that I can find seems to suggest that I can just right-click on a file in nautilus, and the script should appear in a "scripts" menu, but none appears. Do I need to somehow explicitly enable this functionality?
[10:01] <PathagenX> no_dog, use rox
[10:01] <riko> lupine_85: how do i run ralink?
[10:01] <Trackilizer> Ok, thanks.
[10:01] <djm62> man, that should be a factoid
[10:02] <djm62> when someone asks for help with an application, help, or do not help...don't tell them to use something else
[10:02] <mcphail> no_dog: put the script in $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[10:03] <PathagenX> djm62, use google.
[10:03] <erUSUL> riko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ralink&fullsearch=Texto
[10:03] <falcon3> PathagenX: ?
[10:03] <riko> what's this?
[10:03] <riko> oh
[10:04] <djm62> PathagenX: if it's wrt the CD writer, I've googled lots with any search query I can find, and come up with nada that has worked
[10:04] <djm62> too many laptops called travelmate xxxx, spanning half a decade of changing hardware
[10:04] <XplOzIon> can someone guide me in how to add SSL to my proftpd server??hello,
[10:04] <riko> how can i find out what a package installed?
[10:05] <motin_> can you recommend any more (good) linux forums than linux-noob.com, linuxquestions.org and ubuntuforums.org
[10:05] <UKMatt> hey guys, i need some help translating code from KDE to gnome
[10:05] <lupine_85>  riko: it's 'rutilt' as root/sudo
[10:05] <Jowi> riko: dpkg -L packagename
[10:05] <PathagenX> Woohoo! XD
[10:05] <UKMatt> what would "su -c "make install" " be, "sudo "make install" "?
[10:05] <riko> UKMatt: uhn... dude i have no clue how to do anything
[10:06] <riko> Jowi: thanks
[10:06] <mcphail> UKMatt: what do you mean KDE to gnome?
[10:06] <motin_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2412920
[10:06] <riko> aah it works thx guys!
[10:07] <Jowi> riko: you can also see it in synaptic package manager (select the package, click properties, click on the "installed files" tab)
[10:07] <UKMatt> mcphail, well amarok is giving me an error and telling me what code to execute, but it's "su -c" and i'm in gnome and it has no clue what that means, so i assumed there's some difference between the two
[10:07] <lupine_85> UKMatt: almost
[10:07] <lupine_85> you'd need to give it the root password instead of the sudo password
[10:07] <riko> Jowi: ah... anyways i found it i needed to run rutilt
[10:07] <thedash> how do I update java?
[10:07] <UKMatt> lupine_85, almost meaning what?
[10:08] <mcphail> UKMatt: hmm. I wouldn't trust amarok with root priveleges - what does it need to do?
[10:08] <lupine_85> ^ up there ^
[10:08] <lupine_85> [21:07]  <lupine_85> you'd need to give it the root password instead of the sudo password
[10:08] <SlackRat> i wouldnt trust amarok to play media
[10:08] <kaot> ...what's wrong with amarok?
[10:09] <UKMatt> mcphail, i installed it from synaptic and it's never worked, it's saying that sound-engine plugins couldnt be found, so told em to cd to the directory the source code is in and then to run code that it gives me to uninstall/install
[10:09] <azathoth> amarok ftw
[10:09] <UKMatt> mcphail, i've taken it off through synaptic and put it on again, and it still gives me this, and this is a fresh version of gnome ub
[10:10] <kaot> UKMatt: do you have xine installed?
[10:10] <UKMatt> kaot, yeah
[10:10] <SlackRat> on ubuntu the version of amarok dont work, and only an older version runs on slack
[10:10] <kaot> UKMatt: I'unno, then, mine works fine using xine's sound engine.
[10:11] <mcphail> UKMatt: try "sudo apt-get install amarok-xine"
[10:11] <SlackRat> for mp3 at any rate
[10:11] <azathoth> 1.4.2 amarok works wonderfully here on dapper and edgy
[10:11] <UKMatt> slackrat, but i've used the up to date version up until friday, then i reformatted
[10:11] <lassegs> hi. is it possible to install gnome 2.16 on dapper drake?
[10:11] <aburton> how do you install fonts?
[10:11] <UKMatt> mcphail, "0 upgraded - 0 newly installed"
[10:12] <UKMatt> mcphail, and still the error
[10:12] <mcphail> UKMatt: select the xine engine in the config menu
[10:12] <UKMatt> mcphail, where's the config menu?
[10:12] <philc> I'm editing some XML files in Gnome. Is there an editor I can use that will give me formatting ("format this file") or maybe even auto completion? I thought gedit did formatting, but it doesn't look likle it
[10:12] <killown> where I find video thumbnail for linux?
[10:12] <philc> I like gedit because it feels light weight
[10:12] <zpiff> is there any packages for gnome 2.16 out?
[10:12] <ProN00b> anyone got bmpx (or something bmpx based or equally cool) packages for breezy ?
[10:13] <mcphail> UKMatt: unser Settings -> config amarok -> engine
[10:13] <mcphail> under*
[10:13] <lassegs> zpiff, i was just asking the same question
[10:13] <zpiff> packages for dapper
[10:13] <UKMatt> mcphail, oh IN amarok?  i can't it never opens up just gives me the error
[10:13] <Bob535> Question Re: Samba, When I attempt to access it from a windows machine I get a login screen, but I am unable to get any login/pass to work, anyone know which one will work? or how to set up an account which will work?
[10:13] <zpiff> lassegs: and no answers?
[10:13] <mcphail> UKMatt: ok, give me a moment
[10:13] <UKMatt> mcphail, i have a screenshot of the error on the forums if that'll help
[10:14] <lassegs> or is there a howto on installing gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[10:14] <lassegs> lassegs, not so far
[10:14] <killown> where I find video thumbnail for linux? please?
[10:14] <lassegs> killown, i think totem is the application that makes the thumbnails
[10:14] <djm62> aburton: you can do "aptitude search font" for a list of ones in repos
[10:15] <lassegs> !fonts
[10:15] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[10:15] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[10:15] <aburton> I'm just going to use dfontmgr
[10:15] <aburton> thanks
[10:15] <killown> lassegs how make it?
[10:15] <djm62> aburton: and if you do ctrl-L and type fonts: in nautilus, you can drag new fonts if they're in the correct format
[10:15] <moparfan90> i saw a video a while back on xgl and the desktop stuff.. it looks really cool. is there a package for this?
[10:15] <lassegs> killown, with your poor english its really hard to understand you
[10:15] <Bob535> Question Re: Samba, When I attempt to access it from a windows machine I get a login screen, but I am unable to get any login/pass to work, anyone know which one will work? or how to set up an account which will work?
[10:16] <UKMatt> moparfan90, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper will show you how to put XGL/compiz on
[10:16] <moparfan90> ok
[10:16] <moparfan90> thanks
[10:16] <killown> I want know how make video thumbnail in totem
[10:17] <lassegs> Bob535, i got that same problem some time ago. I worked it out by handconfigurating smb.conf
[10:17] <Blissex> Bob535: it is not that simple. There are plenty of tutorials on the web about this, e.g. on the Samba site. I hope you understand well the difference between login types...
[10:17] <lassegs> killown, it should do that automatically if you have the right codecs so totem can read the files
[10:17] <Jowi> !samba
[10:17] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:17] <gusto5> hello, im looking for a guide to get DVI output with a go7600 mobile card and dvi/vga output
[10:17] <lassegs> !codecs > killown
[10:18] <killown> ok
[10:18] <lassegs> but noone knows if there are any packages or howtos on installing gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[10:19] <lassegs> (packages for installing gnome 2.16 on dapper)
[10:19] <mcphail> UKMatt: try editing $HOME/kde/share/config/amarokrc and change the appropriate line to "Sound System=xine-engine"
[10:19] <lassegs> Well, then ill go try the forum.
[10:21] <__mikem> Sorry about the revolving door, but I was trying to fix my autojoin list
[10:21] <UKMatt> mcphail, i don't have that file, only /HOME/.kde/share/applnk   , thats the only one in there
[10:22] <mcphail> UKMatt: hmm - maybe it is created after a successful first run...
[10:22] <Paddy_EIRE> are there any negative/positive effects that i should know of if i convert my mp3s' to ogg?
[10:22] <UKMatt> mcphail, murrr haha, i don't get it, its a new partition, and synaptic install, how did this go wrong
[10:22] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: depends on the tool you use
[10:22] <lupine_85> reencoding would likely result in a loss of quality
[10:22] <lupine_85> unlikely to be noticable
using Sound Converter
[10:23] <lupine_85> never heard of it ;)
[10:23] <mcphail> UKMatt: why not try and create that file as an empty file? It might kick it into action
[10:23] <lupine_85> !mp32ogg
[10:23] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-6 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:23] <lupine_85> good old command-line ;)
[10:23] <darkschneider> hello just installe ubuntu, it's funny, but a apt-get install mplayer miserabily fails finind no package, i tougth to have added the universe repo to the sources list, anything obivious i missed?
[10:24] <UKMatt> mcphail, did you mean amarok on the end?
 looks like a good time to use cli then i guess
[10:24] <lupine_85> darkschneider: did you update yet? (sudo apt-get update)
[10:24] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[10:24] <mcphail> UKMatt: just try to create $HOME/kde/share/config/amarokrc
[10:24] <lupine_85> Sound Converter could well use mp32ogg as it's backend
[10:24] <optimusprime> is there a way to enable web cam for Y messenger?
[10:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ahh
[10:25] <optimusprime> on Dapper
im goin to look into that right now
[10:25] <darkschneider> lupine_85: i think yes, (i did noit added the entryes to the list recently, i installd allready otehr packages) anyway i redo
[10:25] <UKMatt> mcphail, same error, and i didn't mention, before it gives me the code error, it gives me a file:/// error
[10:26] <zpiff> lassegs: waiting for someone to answer your tread :)
[10:26] <mcphail> UKMatt: pastebin the whole error message
[10:26] <UKMatt> mcphail, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252055&highlight=amarok+issue
[10:26] <UKMatt> mcphail, those'll have the graphical messages, limme pastebin the terminal error for u
yes it does use mp32ogg as its backend :) .... im enjoying having so many way to do things
[10:27] <lupine_85> hehe
[10:27] <mcphail> UKMatt: i can't access those grphical errors without a login for the forums
[10:28] <axisys> vmware-player pkg failed to install http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/XmS1WA69.html
[10:28] <lupine_85> you might want to normalise them all while you're are it...
[10:28] <lupine_85> !mp3gain
[10:28] <ubotu> mp3gain: Lossless mp3 normalizer with statistical analysis. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.6-2 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 152 kB
[10:28] <axisys> anyone explain why vmware-player failing to install
[10:28] <UKMatt> mcphail, oh hmmmm.. that directory you mentioned early might make sense
[10:28] <axisys> !vmware
[10:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[10:28] <UKMatt> mcphail, waiting on pastebin, but it gave me a bunch of permission error
[10:29] <djm62> 
 although i need to come up with a efficient way of storing my media files so it'll still have the mp3 version for my player only playe wma and mp3 :(
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> aint seen an ogg player yet
[10:29] <djm62> Paddy_EIRE: samsung make a good one
[10:30] <UKMatt> mcphail, i think pastebin is down
Samsung! nice one... would not mind one with a radio aswell
[10:31] <mcphail> UKMatt: join #flood and paste there
[10:31] <VHockey86> anyone know what package "make" is included in?
im out a fortune this last while but have achieved more than either windows or mac have ever taught me
 tell him to use webboard it may still work
[10:32] <djm62> Paddy_EIRE: the main thing the ogg player is helping me achieve is a few hours in the gym, listening to hip-hop or podcasts ;)
[10:32] <optimusprime> hey all
nice one... Im sad i convert docs to speech and listen to them aswell...lol
[10:32] <optimusprime> I currently have a dual boot thingy with Windows and Breezy....will I use the Win system if I upgrade breezy?
[10:33] <UKMatt> mcphail, posted it there
[10:33] <zpiff> is the ubuntuforums.org down?
[10:33] <mcphail> UKMatt: i can't believe you were kicked from #flood ...
[10:33] <UKMatt> mcphail, wha?
[10:34] <mcphail> 21:32 -!- UKMat1 [n=matt@74.131.192.198]  has quit [Excess Flood] 
[10:34] <UKMatt> mcphail, oh well, did you see the output?
[10:34] <optimusprime> edit***lose the Win OS if I upgrade breezy to dapper?
[10:34] <mcphail> UKMatt: if "Amarok: [Loader]  Starting amarokapp.." is the last line then yes
 you can use the grub disc if u get one....im unsure how to do it any other way
[10:35] <orbital_fox> are there any devs in here interested for a project?
[10:35] <mcphail> UKMatt: what is the output of "ls -l /home/matt/.kde/share" ?
[10:35] <UKMatt> mcphail, nope, limme try webboard someone said
[10:35] <orbital_fox> (language independant , as long as it is a scripting lagnuage)
[10:36] <UKMatt> mcphail, wait if you know how to pm, message me and i'll paste it
[10:36] <optimusprime> geez is the ubuntu forums down?
[10:36] <azathoth> pastebin
[10:36] <Zorlac> "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0", I get that for blocks like 1-15 a bunch of times when booting ubuntu cd.
[10:37] <azathoth> optimusprime: been incredibly slow today
[10:37] <cmpalmer> anybody know if somebody has packaged handbrake for ubuntu already?
[10:37] <gusto5> can i have compiz/xgl and xinerama running at the same time?
[10:37] <orbital_fox> ye they should keep loading it with stupid features
[10:37] <mcphail> UKMatt: ok, i see what has gone wrong
[10:37] <Zorlac> Is my hard drive failed ? =[
[10:37] <cmpalmer> what would I need to do to get handbrake packaged in multiverse?
[10:38] <ralph> hello?
[10:38] <mcphail> UKMatt: don't _ever_ run kde apps as "sudo"
[10:39] <zpiff> is it just me or is ubuntuforums down or very slow
[10:39] <UKMatt> mcphail, wha?
[10:39] <krazykit> zpiff: slow.
[10:39] <cmpalmer> zpiff: slow
[10:39] <mcphail> UKMatt: you need to run "sudo chown -R matt:matt /home/matt/.kde
[10:39] <azathoth> zpiff: it's real slow today :(
[10:39] <lassegs_> zpiff, i think it might be down now
[10:39] <djm62> zpiff: I was about to go to forum
[10:40] <Zorlac> zpiff: i like cheeze
[10:40] <zpiff> Zorlac: mmm cheeze
[10:40] <lassegs_> zpiff, it was slow an hour ago, now it must be down
[10:40] <ralph> I am trying to install some software using aptitude and I'm seeing this message: WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!
[10:40] <azathoth> zpiff: cheese is good
[10:40] <Zorlac> "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0" = failed hd?
[10:40] <ralph> How come?
[10:40] <lassegs_> cheese is offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <zpiff> Zibby: no cheese is great
[10:40] <UKMatt> mcphail, woah i think that was it, what happened?
[10:41] <erUSUL> ralph: from which repo are the packages being instaled? you need the gpg key of the said repositorie
[10:41] <Gevaudan> Guys I'm working on configuring authentication requiring a password entry to enter in apache but apache is rejecting the command AuthUsersFile which is normally valid...anyone know what module I need to install in synaptec?
[10:41] <mcphail> UKMatt: sudo is broken. If you run graphical apps with it, it messes up permissions. Use gksudo instead
[10:41] <cmpalmer> ralph: have you enabled a repository other than universe/multiverse?
[10:41] <UKMatt> mcphail, so kde needs gksudo b/c of graphics?
[10:42] <lassegs_> zpiff, did you find out about the gnome 2.16 thingy?
[10:42] <rummik> does anyone know why bb doesn't work right?
[10:42] <mcphail> UKMatt: you shouldn't need to run amarok as root anyway, but my guess is that you have run some kde app as root in the past using sudo
[10:42] <ralph> restricted?
[10:42] <zpiff> lassegs_: no not much ubuntuforums went down when i was checking it, well maybe upgrade to 6.10
[10:42] <mcphail> UKMatt: if you need to run a graphical app as root, use gksudo
[10:42] <rummik> when it starts playing the music it stops showing the AA text
[10:42] <ralph> I haven't added anything to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <UKMatt> mcphail, yeah i don't know why i would have done amarok w/ it
[10:43] <UKMatt> mcphail, the code, what's that do?
[10:43] <kitche> can anyone tell me why the i386-desktop.iso is broken?
[10:43] <ralph> I just uncommented a few lines to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[10:43] <rummik> erm...updating the text...it does it on my laptop too
[10:43] <Zorlac> Note to all: never buy a maxtor hd becuase they fail like nno other.
[10:43] <quiet> where do I set the apache server name??  i don't see it in apache2.conf
[10:43] <zpiff> how stable is 6.10 is it usable for daily use
[10:43] <quiet> not yet  ^
[10:43] <cmpalmer> ralph: it's a gpg problem then
[10:43] <Gevaudan> quiet: check in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[10:44] <mcphail> UKMatt: sudo changed the owner and group of the .kde directory to root. Amarok has no permission to read or write to a root owned directory. That line changes ownership back to you
[10:44] <cmpalmer> ralph: the change to require the gpg keys happened breezy --> dapper
[10:44] <quiet> Gevaudan, it's not there.
[10:44] <zpiff> forums is back up
[10:44] <ralph> I see
[10:44] <Head> hi
[10:44] <kitche> can anyone tell me why the i386-desktop.iso is broken?
[10:44] <Head> need some help with my soundcard
[10:44] <Gevaudan> quiet: just add ServerName myserver
[10:44] <philippe_> helo all
[10:44] <quiet> oh.. ok
[10:45] <philippe_> i need some help with firefox
[10:45] <eugman> Is clamassassin exactly the same as spamassassin when it comes to making a rule to use it in evolution?
[10:45] <Head> i have no "capture" at the mixer
[10:45] <ralph> anypointers on how to fix this?
[10:45] <djm62> kitche: is it a nightly build? is it the iso itself or your burn of it? how many pieces is it in?
[10:45] <cmpalmer> kitche: have you checked launchpad for a ubiquity bug that matches your problme?
[10:45] <philippe_> in fact when i run a video from  an internet site
[10:45] <Head> can someone give me a tip...
[10:45] <Head> ?
[10:45] <philippe_> i can see picture but no sound
[10:46] <cmpalmer> Head: ask your question
[10:46] <kitche> djm62: it's the iso itself X won't start since the mouse driver is wrong and the input device is wrong but my way didn't work
[10:46] <Head> see above
[10:46] <Head> @cmpalmer...
[10:46] <kitche> cmpalmer: what's launchpad is that like bugzilla?
[10:46] <Head> i hope, u understand my problem
[10:46] <eugman> Does anyone here know how to setup clamassassin with evolution?
[10:46] <KjetilK> I'm having some problems getting my internal network up
[10:46] <KjetilK> ifup eth1
[10:46] <KjetilK> responds SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[10:47] <KjetilK> but dmesg | grep eth1
[10:47] <earthian> how to know if my linux is using swap or not.. but not the size of it.. i am interested IF it really uses it
[10:47] <philippe_> could anyone help me please
[10:47] <KjetilK> returns [17179586.716000]  eth1: Davicom DM9102 at pci0000:00:0a.0, 00:08:a1:28:3d:74, irq 5.
[10:47] <earthian> coz i suspect that i have forgot to format a swap partition :o
[10:47] <djm62> kitche: in that case, you should check the bug database-  it may be that it wasn't tested on your hardware, and your input will put the problem on the radar for next time
[10:47] <lassegs_> earthian, look up swapon swapoff ?
[10:48] <erUSUL> earthian: with top or free
[10:48] <earthian> what exactly swapon swapoff does?
[10:48] <earthian> or nvm.. will see man pages
[10:48] <kitche> djm62: well my hardware is all intel, so it's standard
[10:48] <cmpalmer> kitche: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:48] <kishore> hi
[10:48] <kishore> how to install gaim theme
[10:49] <lupine_85>  mcphail: if you're running a KDE app, surely you should use kdesu? ;)
[10:49] <djm62> kitche: those things don't necessarily follow one another...
[10:49] <mcphail> lupine_85: that would make me feel as if i had sold my soul :)
[10:49] <earthian> omg o_O i forgot swap place for linux
[10:50] <earthian> heh
[10:50] <earthian> :p
[10:50] <erUSUL> earthian: 'dmesg | grep swap' will tell you for sure
[10:50] <djm62> kitche: the normal iso works for most people, so it's the interaction with that and your setup which is causing the problem...if you can isolate what exactly it is, you will be a long way towards solving it
[10:50] <earthian> empy
[10:50] <earthian> :p
[10:50] <lupine_85> sudo fdisk -l would tell even better :)
[10:50] <earthian> empty*
[10:50] <cmpalmer> Head: 16:45 < Head> i have no "capture" at the mixer
[10:50] <cmpalmer> ?
[10:51] <Head> i dont know, whats the right woprd in english
[10:51] <baconbacon> Hi, i made a "backup" of a remote hard disk using : "ssh root@remotehost 'cat /dev/hda' > ~/remotebackup.bin 2> /dev/stdout". How should i go about simulating the .bin file being a hard disk device? I know it's a tough one, but feasible
[10:51] <Head> but if i open the mixer in gnome
[10:51] <cmpalmer> Head: you talking about alsamixer?
[10:51] <djm62> kitche: or at least filing a useful bug report, so that someone else can solve it
[10:51] <lupine_85> baconbacon: it's difficuly
[10:51] <Head> u have the "cards" playback, "capture" and switches
[10:51] <lupine_85> you'd normally mount with /dev/hda1, or whatever, you see...
[10:51] <UKMatt> mcphail, would any of that explain why it's giving me a "cannot talk to klauncher"
[10:51] <Head> but "capture" isn't there
[10:51] <Head> u know, what i mean?!
[10:52] <cmpalmer> Head: you're talking about gnome-volume-control
[10:52] <lupine_85> I guess yiou could try "sudo fdisk -l /path/to/remotebackup.bin", but I don't know if that'd work
[10:52] <mcphail> UKMatt: don't know. Is it still not working?
[10:52] <cmpalmer> Head: lspci|grep audio
[10:52] <UKMatt> mcphail, nah, it's telling me that
[10:52] <cmpalmer> Head: ie. what soundcard does the OS see?
[10:53] <Head> the right one
[10:53] <Head> a audigy
[10:53] <Head> an
[10:53] <Descention> does anyone know how to make an ethernet bridge in ubuntu?
[10:53] <mcphail> UKMatt: at least a new error message is progress :)
[10:54] <Head> lspci|grep audio
[10:54] <Head> lspci|grep audio
[10:54] <Head> ups
[10:54] <Head> 0000:02:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[10:54] <Head> so is it right ;)
[10:54] <UKMatt> mcphail, haha yeah, i ran in terminal and it gives a "different database stats version detected!  will rebuild, then database stats too new for this version, quitting", so i uninstalled, restarted and then reinstalled and still the same
[10:54] <ralph> cmpalmer: any pointers on fixing the trustdb.gpg problem?
[10:55] <stefg> Descention: that depends... man iptables is your friend, easier solutions could be firestarter and some custom scripts if only ICS is needed
[10:55] <lupine_85> Descention: you want brconf, IIRC
[10:55] <Xappe> Descention: no, not me, but you could look at brige-utils...
[10:55] <UKMatt> mcphail, except this time it added couldnt talk to klauncher
[10:55] <lupine_85> erm, brctl
[10:55] <Milchmann> chemiker gesucht, bitte query! [amsg] 
[10:55] <lupine_85> !bridge-utils
[10:55] <ubotu> bridge-utils: Utilities for configuring the Linux ethernet bridge. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1build1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 144 kB
[10:55] <lupine_85> then man brctl
[10:57] <eugman> Can anyone help me with clamassassin?
[10:57] <mcphail> UKMatt: try deleting /home/matt/.kde/share/config/amarokrc and /home/matt/.kde/share/apps/amarok/
[10:57] <preglow> hi, i've managed to erase what groups my primary user is in. could anyone please tell me what the defaults are?
[10:59] <lupine_85>  preglox: adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, lpadmin, scanner, admin
[10:59] <Gevaudan> preglow:  1000
[10:59] <lupine_85> erm, preglow, rather :)
[10:59] <preglow> lupine_85: thanks a million
[10:59] <lupine_85> np
[10:59] <XenThraL> anyone can tell me how can I use WIne?
[11:00] <lupine_85> XenThraL: install it, then "wine /path/to/windows/binary"
[11:00] <Head> install
[11:00] <XenThraL> thanks lupine_85
[11:00] <lupine_85> or add an "Open With..." item for .exe files which uses wine as the opener
[11:00] <Head> and then "wine application"
[11:00] <lupine_85> then you can double-click on them :)
 what app you trying to run with it
[11:00] <wiking_> Can any one ansver? Have Ubuntu easy painting proramm (like MS paint)
[11:00] <Head> application is the name of the exe file
[11:00] <rummik> umm...why doesn't bb work right?
[11:01] <metalhedd> I'm trying to get WPA encryption wirkong on an intel 3945 has anyone done this?
 bb?
[11:01] <rummik> Paddy_EIRE: the AAlib demo
[11:01] <UKMatt> mcphail, still the klauncher error, and when i ran it in terminal, terminal was freaking out w/ that error
[11:01] <Lysit> does anyone knoe how to enable php at command line level, or a guide on how to do it?
[11:01] <lupine_85> metalhedd: Dutchy has
[11:02] <lupine_85> no idea how, though!
[11:02] <lupine_85> wpa_supplicant I think
[11:02] <mcphail> UKMatt: did it get rid of the database error?
[11:02] <UKMatt> mcphail, actually no, i thought it did but its still there
[11:03] <mcphail> UKMatt: :(
[11:03] <metalhedd> lupine_85: thanks.  I'll look into it.
[11:03] <Dutchy> hello, i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto and after the reboot if i doubeclick the volume control it says 'no volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found' ... and in system > preferences > sound i cant seect a sound device anymore, any idea what i did wrong?
[11:04] <metalhedd> Dutchy: can you offer any advice on WPA  on the 3945?
[11:04] <wiking_> Can any one ansver? Have Ubuntu easy painting proramm (like MS paint)
[11:04] <UKMatt> mcphail, i'm bordering on just wiping again since its only a couple days old, when I had problems with it, i thought it might be an older version with issues, so went to the website and added it to repo and updated like it said, and that might be part of the reason
 sudo apt-get install gnupaint
[11:04] <mcphail> wiking_: try tuxpaint
[11:04] <lupine_85> wiking_: Krita in KDE
[11:05] <wiking_> Paddy_EIRE, thanx!
[11:05] <mcphail> UKMatt: which repo are you using for amarok?
 tuxpaint very good to, especially for kids
[11:05] <Dutchy> metalhedd probably not, my connection was kinda special... anyway have you tried wpa_supplicant?
[11:05] <Lysit> what is the default path to php in ubuntu?
[11:05] <Dutchy> and is the ipw3945 fully working?
[11:06] <UKMatt> mcphail, actually i'm not, i'm on the normal one, i guess i forgot i took the other one off
[11:06] <UKMatt> mcphail, i think i'm just gonna rewipe, its a mess and i have an external HD, its probably easier
[11:06] <mcphail> UKMatt: try "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142 dapper main"
[11:07] <Malnilion> Ah, updating amaroK is a pain.
[11:07] <Malnilion> I just decided to wait since I couldn't get stuff to play when I upgraded.
[11:07] <UKMatt> mcphail, k added that and refreshed, what next?
[11:08] <ACU> Does anyone knows what versions of Apache, MySql and Drupal are installed with ubuntu server (or available for it)
[11:08] <mcphail> UKMatt: sudoa pt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:08] <Bazzi> ACU: see below
[11:08] <Bazzi> !info mysql-server
[11:08] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 68 kB
[11:08] <Bazzi> !info apache2
[11:08] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[11:09] <Bazzi> !info drupal
[11:09] <ubotu> drupal: fully-featured content management/discussion engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5.8-1 (dapper), package size 476 kB, installed size 1944 kB
[11:09] <PathagenX> could someone give me the multiverse repos, please?
[11:09] <Bazzi> (sorry for spamming this little bit)
[11:09] <Gevaudan> PathagenX: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:09] <covOPprometheus> PathagenX, what distro?
[11:09] <ACU> Bazzi: thanks a lot!
[11:10] <Malnilion> Ok, I have a really strange problem that so far I have received no answer to.  I have an intel HDA soundcard and for some reason my volume in Linux absolutely sucks.  I get maybe 1/4 of what my maximum would be in windows.  I've seen several people report this problem in the forums but I haven't seen any solutions yet.
[11:10] <UKMatt> mcphail, it upgraded 3 things, xine i think, but then when i ran it still gave klauncher error
[11:10] <PathagenX> PathagenX, Dapper, Xubuntu
[11:10] <PathagenX> I am talkig to myself? oO
[11:10] <PathagenX> covOPprometheus, Dapper, Ubuntu
[11:10] <covOPprometheus> did anyone of you solve some 'closing-lid-freezing-system' issues?
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> lol......the sound effects in tuxpaint are hilarious
[11:11] <hareem> ok i  installed gproftpd and now how can i access it.
[11:11] <hareem> i need to use the sudo shell command
[11:11] <hareem> but i dont know what to type
[11:11] <hareem> need help fast
[11:12] <Lysit> in ubuntu ehst id the default path to the php executable?
[11:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Malnilion: I seem to remember something about disabling the extrenal amp..
[11:12] <Descention> i made a boo-boo... i dont have a monitor on my linux box, and i just used the brctl command to add my eth0 (main connection) to the bridge, and now im cut off... what should i do?
[11:12] <cmpalmer> ralph: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#head-9332f873587805e9c15d90508a87e03c7713dce9
[11:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Malnilion: alsactl power 0 off    then    alsactl power 0 on  see if that does anything
[11:13] <monotux> anyone who've had any luck with hostapd and madwifi in dapper? I think that hostapd was compiled against madwifi-ng, but dapper uses madwifi-old :(
[11:13] <Malnilion> Jack_Sparrow, ok, I'll give it a shot :)
[11:13] <lupine_85> monotux: madwifi-ng modules are around as well
[11:13] <lupine_85> disable madwifi-old and use madwifi-ng instead
[11:13] <bsdfox> madwifi-ng works way better
[11:13] <monotux> but how do I do that? :/
[11:14] <Malnilion> Jack_Sparrow: alsactl: set_power:117: snd_ctl_set_power_state error: Protocol not available
[11:14] <mcphail> UKMatt: try "sudo aptitude install amarok=2:1.4.2-0ubuntu2"
[11:14] <ralph> cmpalmer: thanks, reading...
[11:14] <cmpalmer> ralph: oops. this one instead: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#head-9332f873587805e9c15d90508a87e03c7713dce9
[11:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Malnilion: That is not a fix, but it may tell you something to help id the prob
[11:14] <lupine_85> Well, the modules are in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/madwifi-ng
[11:14] <Shimakaze> hi all. could someone tell me how to boot into ubuntu with safe graphics mode please? the system freezes shortly after boot-up. the same thing happened using livecd, and was solved using the safe graphics mode option.
[11:14] <cmpalmer> ralph: basically that wikipage is a good intro. google for other info more specific to ubuntu
[11:14] <lupine_85> I'd imagine you have to rmmod your current modules, then modprobe new_ath_pci
[11:14] <monotux> lupine_85: I've already discovered that, but how do I force dapper to only use the -ng modules?
[11:14] <Cerveza> how do I take screenshots of a single window in gnome?
[11:14] <lupine_85> ...or something like that
[11:14] <lupine_85> ^^
[11:14] <bsdfox> Shimakaze, there is a text mode.. hit F2 and F3 to see options
[11:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Malnilion: HEre is waht I was reading..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146367&highlight=Intel+sound
[11:15] <cmpalmer> Cerveza: you can do that from the gimp
[11:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Malnilion: Man I can't type today..
[11:15] <Shimakaze> bsdfox, text mode eh....i think i would be lost with text mode. i'm completely new to linux
[11:15] <UKMatt> mcphail, nothing changed, and "0 upgraded, installed, removed or not upgraded"
[11:15] <Malnilion> Jack_Sparrow, not a problem :)
[11:15] <mcphail> Cerveza: alt-printscreen
[11:15] <cmpalmer> Cerveza: File >> Acquire
[11:16] <exs> how do I force a program to quit?
[11:16] <mcphail> UKMatt: ok, try removing it with the --purge option, then reinstalling it with the line you just typed
[11:16] <EnsignRedshirt> Cerveza: ...or, from the command line: gnome-screenshot --window --delay=<seconds>
[11:16] <Zorlac> "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0" whats that mean
 xkill
[11:17] <UKMatt> mcphail, how do you remove w/ purge
[11:17] <lupine_85> apt-get remove --purge <package>
[11:17] <mcphail> UKMatt: sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok
[11:17] <Zorlac> exs: THE exs?
[11:17] <lupine_85> Zorlac: I had that recently as well
[11:17] <lupine_85> I was told it "could" be hardware failure...
[11:17] <lupine_85> ulp!
[11:18] <Zorlac> lupine_85: i'm assuming it is a hardware fialure... damn maxtor
[11:18] <UKMatt> mcphail, same
[11:18] <pozdiy> trying to connect my Handspring PDA to Ubuntu host through serial cable, how can I know what port to use: /dev/pilot, /dev/ttyS0 etc?
[11:18] <darkschneider> do someone knwo a repofor wm docks ?
[11:19] <covOPprometheus> did anyone of you solve some 'closing-lid-freezing-system' issues before?
[11:19] <rbonduk> can someone help me please, i have a TRUST webcam " 120 spacecam " cant get it to work
[11:20] <Malnilion> Jack_Sparrow:  Thanks for the link, I'll see if it helps me out :)
[11:21] <mcphail> UKMatt: ps -u matt | grep klauncher
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Hope it does
[11:21] <steveire__> Sweet jebus Gaim is non-intuitive...
[11:21] <lupine_85> Kopete++
[11:21] <lupine_85> KDE, though
[11:21] <UKMatt> mcphail, ran that and it didn't say anything, and had no impact on amarok
[11:22] <mcphail> UKMatt: ps -u root | grep klauncher
[11:22] <steveire__> I have a fat partition on the comp I'm using atm, but there's no entry for it in /etc/fstab.
i managed to solve the theme problem :) using part of yours and parts of others very cool
[11:22] <papyromancer>  Hey all, does anyone run gentoo and ubuntu on the same box referencing the same home folder?  I was thinking of doing it.
[11:22] <UKMatt> mcphail, same
[11:22] <steveire__> I'm surprised the drives weren't found. I'm using edgy here.
[11:22] <goldfish> hi
[11:22] <lupine_85> papyromancer: been there, done that. works like a charm
[11:22] <mcphail> UKMatt: ps aux | grep klauncher
[11:22] <ozzloy> where is a good list of xgl hardware compatible video cards?
[11:23] <lupine_85> steveire__: they usually get found well. Just add it
[11:23] <papyromancer> lupine_85: Thanks
[11:23] <lupine_85> man fstab for options
[11:23] <ozzloy> er... you know what i mean
[11:23] <papyromancer> :)
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Enjoy those icons, they are great
[11:23] <steveire__> Can someone post a line that I need to put into my fstab file for a fat32 drive>?
[11:23] <lupine_85> papyromancer: best making a backup of your config files though
[11:23] <lupine_85> "just in case"
[11:23] <UKMatt> mcphail, matt     18332  0.0  0.1   2880   800 pts/1    R+   17:23   0:00 grep klauncher
[11:23] <ozzloy> nm i found it
[11:23] <goldfish> where do i need to search on in kaffine for my tv card i live in essex
[11:23] <papyromancer> lupine_85: subversion is a good friend.
[11:23] <lupine_85> my main problem was that gentoo uses a different config file for Thunderbird than Ubuntu
[11:23] <mcphail> UKMatt: ps aux | grep kde
 did u make the icons yourself?
[11:23] <lupine_85> 1 symlink later... ;)
[11:23] <papyromancer> right on
[11:24] <papyromancer> time to format the HDD ;)
[11:24] <lupine_85> I later shared it between SuSE as well
[11:24] <rbonduk> my tv card dont as well
[11:24] <UKMatt> mcphail, hey what was the last line?
[11:24] <mcphail> UKMatt: ps aux | grep kde
[11:24] <covOPprometheus> did anyone of you solve some 'closing-lid-freezing-system' issues before?
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I wish I had that kind of tallent... here is the link... http://kearone.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=9
[11:24] <goldfish> its scanning but dont look like its finding anything
wish i knew the gimp that well
[11:25] <thinkle> My laptop's screen resolution got screwed up after using an external monitor today. I have a widescreen laptop that used to work and now everything's squished -- rebooting is fruitless, as is fiddling with System->Preferences->Screen Resolution. Any ideas?
[11:25] <rbonduk> same hear
[11:25] <UKMatt> mcphail, matt     18553  0.0  0.1   2880   800 pts/1    S+   17:24   0:00 grep kde
[11:25] <rbonduk> same
[11:25] <moparfan90> does anyone know a good free game for linux?
[11:25] <rbonduk> what card do you have
[11:25] <preglow> lupine_85: you know if there's some overview over what all those groups are for some place?
[11:25] <goldfish> haugpaug win tv pci
[11:25] <ompaul> thinkle, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << is useful
[11:26] <rbonduk> same here
[11:26] <lupine_85> preglow: I don't think so
[11:26] <UKMatt> goldfish, same here
[11:26] <lupine_85> since they're all so configurable...
[11:26] <mcphail> UKMatt: try it again with amarok "running"
[11:26] <preglow> right
[11:26] <preglow> lupine_85: anyway, i'm back on track, thanks a bunch
[11:26] <lupine_85> the name gives away some of the functionality, though
[11:26] <lupine_85> np :)
[11:26] <goldfish> im using sudburyB uk at the minute
[11:26] <thinkle> ompaul, I'll give that a go. Seems weird I should reconfigure a package when no configuration was required to cause the problem -- seems like I should look into filing a bug if this is true, no?
[11:26] <rbonduk> i can get my digi box to work, but not the tv channels
[11:26] <UKMatt> mcphail, doesn't look like its impacting it
[11:27] <steveire__> Is there something in synaptic to create entries in my fstab and mount my filesystems?
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21900
[11:27] <Allz-i-> i need help fox .i can go into windows files through linux but i dont have access to change :S how can i get access
[11:27] <error> hi world, can some1 explane me that room please
[11:27] <lupine_85> steveire__: disk-manager ?
[11:27] <goldfish> where can i get libdvdcss 64bit
[11:27] <mcphail> UKMatt: the last thing i can suggest is restarting the xserver
[11:27] <rbonduk> my webcam dont work as well
[11:28] <ompaul> thinkle, copy the xorg.conf to one side now and then to that and checlk out what it is that is different, and I do think it should not happen but it did
[11:28] <UKMatt> mcphail, haha nope, i just did that a sec ago accidently trying to hit the |
[11:28] <error> who know's about ROOTKITS please ,,,, ?
[11:28] <Allz-i-> i need help fox .i can go into windows files through linux but i dont have access to change :S how can i get access
[11:28] <Paddy_EIRE> !rootkits
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkits - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <mcphail> UKMatt: lol
[11:28] <lupine_85> eh, ignore me
[11:28] <UKMatt> mcphail, where do you get all this from?
[11:28] <error> yea rootkits
[11:28] <lupine_85> there is an applet... but I'm in KDE
[11:28] <lupine_85> error: i 0wn j00 :D
[11:29] <REA1ist>       
[11:29] <REA1ist> .
[11:29] <REA1ist> ?
[11:29] <lupine_85> !chkrootkit
[11:29] <ubotu> chkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.46a-2 (dapper), package size 241 kB, installed size 688 kB
[11:29] <Renan_s2> !ru
[11:29] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:29] <lupine_85> !rkhunter
[11:29] <mcphail> UKMatt: i'm just wondering if some kde service is running as "root", and blocking things for you
[11:29] <ubotu> rkhunter: rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.7-16 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 464 kB
[11:29] <error> ok so who knows rootkit's programs, please
 would you know how i could fix this
[11:29] <lupine_85> ^ for detection ^
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i21900
[11:29] <covOPprometheus> did anyone of you solve some 'closing-lid-freezing-system' issues before?
[11:29] <lupine_85> if you want to make/use one, well...
[11:30] <Allz-i-> yo people :S can someone tell me how to get access to windows stuff
[11:30] <Malnilion> Jack_Sparrow:  I think I'm going to try rebooting.
[11:30] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you need to adjust the keyboard in your environment check > system preference keyboard
[11:30] <rbonduk> wine
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> good luck
[11:30] <UKMatt> mcphail, don't worry about it, i'll rewipe, everythings backed up and all i'll lose are some themes and program configs, no biggie, then just hope it doesn't happen again
[11:30] <error> ROOTKITS information please here <[11:30] <ompaul> error, we do not discuss rootkits in this channe
[11:30] <covOPprometheus> Allz-i-, you mean on a windows partition?
[11:30] <Zikey> Hi, sorry for the dumb question but what is the correct file to put binaries we want to run after the start-up ? /etc/rc.local ?
[11:30] <lupine_85> error: read up
 yeah it doesnt work instead that error springs up again,
[11:30] <ompaul> error, it is against freenode guidelines
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !rootkit
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: no idea, i'm afraid
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[11:31] <Allz-i-> aha i can go into windows failes through linux but i cant change nothing
[11:31] <Allz-i-> it says you dont have access
[11:31] <error> ok got it
[11:31] <mcphail> UKMatt: pity. I'm sure there must be a way to carck it for you
[11:31] <error> thanks
[11:31] <mcphail> crack
[11:31] <UKMatt> allz-i- well you can't write to a windows partition
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: Sorry, I have no idea what it is or does.
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Shouldnt
[11:31] <lupine_85> !chkrootkit
[11:31] <ubotu> chkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.46a-2 (dapper), package size 241 kB, installed size 688 kB
[11:31] <lupine_85> !rkhunter
[11:31] <ubotu> rkhunter: rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.7-16 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 464 kB
[11:31] <UKMatt> mcphail, nah don't worry about it though, but trying things like this, do you come up with them or is there some reference you're using
[11:31] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, check language support - under  system - administration
[11:32] <lupine_85> !webmin
[11:32] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[11:32] <lupine_85> what?!
[11:32] <lupine_85> ?!?!?!?!?!
[11:32] <Allz-i-> i should do so :S
[11:32] <Allz-i-> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[11:32] <lupine_85> no webmin?
[11:32] <SpeesKeek> Help. what can i do bout "Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h" when compiling mplayer
[11:32] <lupine_85> don't suppose anyone knows why we should "avoid using webmin", do they?
[11:32] <Allz-i-> all i need is to get access but how the ****** can i do that
[11:32] <mcphail> UKMatt: no reference. Just a bit of experience messing around with linux
[11:32] <UKMatt> mcphail, ha ok wow, well ty though
[11:32] <steveire__> lupine_85: I find no disk-manager in synaptic. I have all repos
 The language support is not installed completely! it says then it says Not all translations or writing aids, that are available for the supported languages on your system, are installed
[11:33] <rbonduk> i had that problem, i installed kwikdisk allz-i
[11:33] <era86> anyone have any experience with visual studio?
[11:33] <matthewjames> hello, i just installed webserver (apache) and fowarded ports 22 and 80, and when i give my ip to freind he can not connect, niether can I
[11:33] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, well see what it will let you install
[11:33] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[11:33] <lupine_85> steveire__: my bad. still in the dark ages
[11:33] <lupine_85> endeavour2 might do what you want
[11:33] <mcphail> lupine_85: i have never used webmin, but the debian system for services is rather well done
[11:33] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, I don't know too much about specific packages in that space
[11:33] <lupine_85> but I'm sure there's a GNOME applet
[11:33] <RvGaTe> So is this new update of Gnome also in ubuntu ?
[11:33] <Malnilion> Jack_Sparrow: Meh, I have no idea what is going to be needed to fix this.
[11:34] <lupine_85> mcphail: I know - I have it on my server
[11:34] <lupine_85> works like a charm
[11:34] <thinkle> Okay -- dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver did nothing for me. However, I just noticed that if I login with a test user, X is not broken -- so it's a user setting that has screwed things up.
[11:34] <lupine_85> I wonder what the rationale is... it was in Breezy
[11:34] <matthewjames> hello, i just installed webserver (apache) and fowarded ports 22 and 80, and when i give my ip to freind he can not connect, niether can I
[11:34] <SpeesKeek> matthewjames your router port 80 and 22 are open ?
[11:34] <matthewjames> SpeesKeek: yes
[11:34] <Zikey> I don't find sendmail using apt-cache search , how can I find it ?
[11:34] <SpeesKeek> service is stared?
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Malnilion:  I didnt have sound until I installed sauerbratten and a couple of things and suddenly I had sound.. go figure
[11:35] <steveire__> can someone post a line from their fstab for a fat32 drive please?
[11:35] <goldfish> anybody got any ideas what source i should be using
[11:35] <goldfish> tv card
[11:35] <ompaul> !fat32
[11:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:35] <lupine_85> man fstab will give you what you need
[11:35] <iratsu> i don't see the graphical booting screen with the ubuntu logo when i boot my laptop, is that normal?
[11:35] <laz0r> hi, i wonder where the init script for the wpa_supplicant is? is there none under ubuntu?
 i think that solved it :) gonna restart to see if it did....fingers crossed
[11:35] <thinkle> Ok... maybe reinstalling did do something... I'll have to do a diff to see what happened. At any rate, now it's working for both users.
[11:35] <thinkle> Argh... confusion!
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> steveire__: FYI there is a channel for edgy..
[11:35] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, can't type if I do :)
[11:35] <matthewjames> SpeesKeek: u still there?
[11:36] <rbonduk> have you tried the tv card website
[11:36] <SpeesKeek> jes matthewjames
[11:36] <SpeesKeek> matthewjames is apache started ?
[11:36] <matthewjames> yes
[11:36] <mcphail> !info sendmail > Zikey
[11:36] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.5-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 244 kB
[11:36] <matthewjames> i can only connect through url localhost
[11:36] <SpeesKeek> matthewjames is it configged correctely ?
[11:36] <SpeesKeek> ah
[11:36] <SpeesKeek> ok
[11:36] <matthewjames> um, by defualt its port 80 right?
[11:37] <SpeesKeek> matthewjames, yes. but how are you trying to connect from the outside
[11:37] <lupine_85> matthewjames: is it configured to bind to your external IP?
[11:37] <matthewjames> im giving my friend my ip address
[11:37] <SpeesKeek> he sais yes
[11:37] <rbonduk> it give you a link at the bottom to linux, but cant seem to install it
[11:37] <steveire__> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, but people are very silent in there. I hate gnome...
[11:37] <matthewjames> bind?
[11:37] <SpeesKeek> Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h .. any solution ?
[11:38] <Dutchy> could somebody remind me what the comand was for uninstalling thinds installed with ./configure - make - make install
[11:38] <lupine_85> e.g. what's the output of netstat -a |grep www
[11:38] <lupine_85> mine looks like: tcp        0      0 lupine.me.uk:www        *:*                     LISTEN
[11:38] <mcphail> Dutchy: it depends on how the Makefile has been set up
[11:38] <lupine_85> note that it's bound to "lupine.me.uk", and not "localhost"
[11:38] <matthewjames> nothing is outputted
[11:38] <lupine_85> it's not running then
[11:38] <mcphail> Dutchy: try going into the source directory and typing "sudo make uninstall"
[11:38] <lupine_85> check /var/log/apache2 for errors
[11:38] <matthewjames> tcp    11181      0 192.168.1.4:54104       l2.login.vip.dcn.ya:www CLOSE_WAIT
[11:38] <matthewjames> tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN
[11:39] <Dutchy> mcphail: thnx ill try it
[11:39] <mcphail> Dutchy: and in the future, use "sudo checkinstall" instead of make install
[11:39] <matthewjames> Lupine: tcp    11181      0 192.168.1.4:54104       l2.login.vip.dcn.ya:www CLOSE_WAIT
[11:39] <matthewjames> tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN
[11:39] <matthewjames> BRB
[11:40] <lupine_85> matthewjames: you've got IPv6 connectivity, but not Ipv4
[11:40] <Dutchy> mcphail: i blame https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto then, followed that
[11:40] <matthewjames> how enable ipv4?
[11:40] <lupine_85> posting more than one line out output is generally considered bad form, btw
[11:40] <matthewjames> how enable ipv4?
[11:40] <REA1ist> 
[11:40] <lupine_85> In ports.conf you want a line like this:- Listen 81.187.208.245:80
[11:40] <lupine_85> obviously replacing the IP with your IP
[11:41] <mcphail> Dutchy: there's nothing to "blame". It's just that checkinstall is a much nicer way to do things
[11:41] <matthewjames> ok, ty
[11:41] <lupine_85> then /etc/init.d/apache2 stop && /etc/init.d/apache2 start and you should be good to go
[11:41] <Dutchy> mcphail: ok :) why does the page use make install then?
[11:42] <sureshot> anyone here know about toshiba laptops having video problems with ubuntu
[11:42] <mcphail> Dutchy: "make install" is the standard way to do things. The advantage of running checkinstall is that it creates a .deb file which can be uninstalled with "apt-get remove"
[11:43] <Dutchy> mcphail: ok :)
[11:43] <goldfish> why is my window draging slow
[11:44] <Malnilion> What is the Edgy irc channel?
[11:44] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1
[11:44] <lupine_85> goldfish: water drag? ;)
[11:44] <bbrazil> Malnilion: #ubuntu+1
[11:44] <goldfish> slow refresh
[11:45] <lupine_85> on a serious note, it's likely to be overloaded CPU or slow graphics (wrong driver installed?)
[11:45] <Lovecraft> goldfish: No acceleration for you vid card maybe.
[11:45] <goldfish> 2.2gig ati 9600xt 256mb
[11:45] <goldfish> 64bit ubuntu
[11:45] <sureshot> does anyone here have a laptop with a wide screen and cant get ubuntu to work corretly with it
[11:45] <lupine_85> !ati
[11:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <lupine_85> sureshot: you'd just have to add the appropriate modeline to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <modplug> how can i check if xgl is enabled?
[11:46] <sureshot> what would that be.. i am a newbie and dont know much
[11:46] <iratsu> i don't see the graphical booting screen with the ubuntu logo when i boot my laptop, is that normal?
[11:47] <mwe> modplug: see if the features work?
[11:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: nice one no more error, although shift +3 normally is the pound sign but instead its just 3 again how do i fix this....telling shift to behave like it does in windows will bring that error up again?
[11:48] <Hazarath> Need networking help, please.
[11:48] <mcphail> modplug: when gnome starts, you get a black and white checkerboard pattern before your background appears
[11:48] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, have you got caps lock on - check you are pointing at a .uk keyboard in its settings
[11:48] <goldfish> i want tv channel
[11:49] <sureshot> gee a lot is going o here...
[11:49] <sureshot> how does edit the xorg.conf file
[11:49] <Hazarath> I got my ubunto box, and a drive I wanna sccess on Win XP, help?
[11:50] <Hazarath> No good networking peeps here?
[11:51] <moparfan90> when i type fglrxinfo i get this
[11:51] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> is there any way to install ubuntu w/o a cd?
[11:51] <moparfan90> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:51] <moparfan90> what do i do??
yeah its uk although if i choose add i only have dvorak and international with dead keys??
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:52] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> is there any way to install ubuntu w/o a cd
[11:52] <magnet> yeah gre1_ON_WINDOES
[11:52] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> how?
[11:52] <sureshot> thanks man
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:52] <Hazarath> Need to access a drive on my Windows XP system.
[11:52] <magnet> many ways, depending on how far you're willing to go :)
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: fat32 or ntfs read or read/write
[11:53] <mwe> gre1_ON_WINDOES: floppies, usb, netboot to name a few
[11:53] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> magnet: whats the easiest?
[11:53] <laz0r> jo, tapas
[11:53] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, NTFS on that Windows box.
[11:53] <magnet> well, I don't know, depends on what you consider hard :)
[11:53] <moparfan90> floppies :)
[11:53] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, Would like r/w
[11:53] <Lovecraft> Hazarath: over the network?
[11:53] <Hazarath> Yes
[11:53] <magnet> I did it with floppies 3 days ago
how do i restart scim
[11:54] <goldfish> how do i know if the right drivers are installed
[11:54] <Lovecraft> Hazarath: Use smbfs to mount it.
[11:54] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> i don have anyfloppies
[11:54] <Hazarath> Gave up on captive, gonna use my network instead.
[11:54] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> maybe 1
[11:54] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> omewhere
[11:54] <Hazarath> Lovecraft, what?
[11:54] <magnet> gre1_ON_WINDOES: then use USB or netboot if your bios supports PXE
[11:54] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> no usb drive how do i netbook
[11:54] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> netboot*
[11:55] <Sarra_> I'm looking for image enhancement software
[11:55] <magnet> if you're not tech-savvy you should really wait and get a cd drived
[11:55] <magnet> -d
[11:55] <Lovecraft> mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.1/docs -o fmask=660,dmask=775,uid=<blah>,gid=<bleh mountpoint
[11:55] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, no idea
[11:55] <magnet> you have to set up a PXE server
[11:55] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> this does AVE A KEY FOR NETWORKSERVICE BOOT
[11:55] <Lovecraft> As an example.
[11:55] <ompaul> !shout
[11:55] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:55] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> srry
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Anyone know how to restart SCIM
[11:56] <ChaosFan> Hazarath: you could also use cifs instead of smbfs. that's said to be a bit faster
[11:56] <sureshot> ok i have my xorg.conf up it has vesa card with generic monitor i have an ati x600 se card may i ask what to do
[11:56] <magnet> gre1_ON_WINDOES: you need another computer on which you'll set up a PXE server, so you need at least two computers
[11:56] <Hazarath> ChaosFan, may I PM?
[11:56] <magnet> (the server, and the one you're installing ubuntu on)
[11:56] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> ugh
[11:56] <ChaosFan> Hazarath: just do it ;)
[11:56] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> i don have any comps other than this
[11:57] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> or anyone freinds who have a brain
[11:57] <magnet> well how would you want to network boot without a server sending the cdrom data? :)
[11:57] <Przemcio1978> hi, which picture viewer (gtk2 based) do you recommend?
[11:57] <moparfan90> i think he thought it was over the internet
[11:58] <geokok> Hi. I activated popcon but how can i check if it works?
[11:58] <magnet> hehe :)
[11:58] <nozorro> Przemcio1978: gthumb which comes with default install
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !ATI > sureshot
[11:59] <magnet> gre1_ON_WINDOES: try to get your hands on a CD drive and install ubuntu the standard way, that will be a lot easier
[11:59] <sureshot> yes ati  ???
[11:59] <Garnett> slt room
[11:59] <Przemcio1978> i love gwenview and i'd like something similar but for xfce
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: That page has a step by step. ask if you hit a snag
[11:59] <Garnett> ya un franais
[11:59] <Garnett> ici,
[11:59] <Garnett> ?
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[11:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:59] <geokok> Hi. I activated popcon but how can i check if it works?
[12:00] <Garnett> LOL
[12:00] <Garnett> Ok
[12:00] <sureshot> thanks Jack
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:00] <moparfan90> anyone know how to fix this?
[12:00] <atze> Hi
[12:00] <moparfan90> moparfan90@moparfan90-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo
[12:00] <moparfan90> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory