| cbx33 | ping ogra_ | 12:18 |
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| LaserJock | heh | 12:22 |
| pygi | highvoltage, poke? :) | 12:24 |
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| mhz | hi all | 12:41 |
| mhz | th1a__: ping | 12:41 |
| cbx33 | hey mhz | 12:41 |
| mhz | cbx33: hey there | 12:41 |
| mhz | cbx33: any good knowledge on sysadmin? | 12:42 |
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| cbx33 | sysadmin in general? | 12:42 |
| mhz | yup | 12:42 |
| cbx33 | what' the question? | 12:42 |
| mhz | I had to rescue this tiny laptop's HD using it in a external USB case. | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | u huh | 12:43 |
| mhz | So, the computer from which it was installed had 3 NICs, and when I placed the HD back to the laptop, | 12:44 |
| mhz | the laptop hardware only has 1 eth0 and 1 ath0 | 12:45 |
| mhz | BUTY | 12:45 |
| mhz | BUT | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | eeek | 12:45 |
| mhz | systems insists it is eth2 and ath1 | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | I have no idea | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | hhhmmm | 12:45 |
| mhz | my guess is there must be some file I could manually edit | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | ehere is a file | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | but I can;t recall what it is ow | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | ask in #ubuntu | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | I'm off to bed | 12:46 |
| cbx33 | shattered | 12:46 |
| mhz | cbx33: okis thx | 12:47 |
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| LaserJock | ogra_: do I need to do something with the spec? | 01:56 |
| ogra_ | probably make it match the reality ? | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu-dynamic-menus is listed as "slow progress" and "discussion" | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | sure | 01:57 |
| ogra_ | if it matches already, change the status to deployment or so | 01:57 |
| ogra_ | and mark it good progress ;) | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | ok, I'll work on the wiki page then do that | 01:58 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: do you think you'll want a MIR for edgy+1? | 01:59 |
| ogra_ | well, make a MIR it wont do any harm ... | 01:59 |
| LaserJock | hopefully it won't take up much space ;-) | 01:59 |
| LaserJock | if we keep implementing our specs we will run out of room quicker | 02:00 |
| ogra_ | well, my specs didnt take a megabyte on the CD yet | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | nice | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | how about SCP | 02:00 |
| ogra_ | not in main yet | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | did Pete's code add very much? | 02:00 |
| ogra_ | but pitti wants to look over it tomorrow | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | sure, but if it gets there ;-) | 02:01 |
| ogra_ | no, he cleaned it up ;) | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | I'm going to be optomistic | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | Pete did a lot of cool stuff | 02:01 |
| ogra_ | its only some kilobyte | 02:01 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 02:01 |
| ogra_ | i'll surely cheer very loud for his motuship | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | sabayon isn't in Main is it? | 02:02 |
| ogra_ | it is | 02:02 |
| ogra_ | its even on the CD now | 02:02 |
| ogra_ | (edubuntu) | 02:02 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 02:02 |
| ogra_ | not installed though | 02:02 |
| LaserJock | in talking with RichEd I think it would be cool to create sabayon profiles as well | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | although they wouldn't really be very dynamic | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | but things like having a profile per grade | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | seem pretty cool | 02:03 |
| ogra_ | there recently came a package from debian with default profiles | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | cool | 02:04 |
| ogra_ | but i'm not sure it has sabayon | 02:05 |
| === mhz will have to install many apps edu oriented and have them categorized by 'subjects' :( | ||
| LaserJock | I was thinking of adding .directories to edubuntu-menus so that we can rename submenus | 02:05 |
| mhz | yeah! | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | the only thing is getting them translated | 02:05 |
| mhz | ? | 02:06 |
| ogra_ | right | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | I've stayed away from editing .directory and .desktop files because they are translated | 02:06 |
| ogra_ | and the .desktop files | 02:06 |
| ogra_ | not onyl that | 02:06 |
| ogra_ | .desktop files have the categories in them ... | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 02:07 |
| ogra_ | you will need to update them if you invent categories | 02:07 |
| LaserJock | well, the fd.o Categories are really good | 02:07 |
| LaserJock | gnome just doesn't use them | 02:07 |
| LaserJock | to keep things simple | 02:07 |
| LaserJock | so if we provided a Science .directory we could have a Science submenu | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | which we can't do right now | 02:08 |
| ogra_ | right, but you need to update all .desktop files of apps you want in there | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | nope | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | well, they should have science in Categories already | 02:09 |
| LaserJock | it's just a matter of getting the submenu | 02:09 |
| LaserJock | kalzium, for instance has :Categories=Qt;KDE;Education;Science; | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | so if I created a science.directory then it could go in a science submenu without me touching the .desktop | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | anyway, that's pretty much edgy+1 material | 02:11 |
| ogra_ | how do you make sure it doesnt show in education as well ? | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | I could exclude Science from the Education menuu | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | since it's going to Science | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | so I would get Eduction and then exclude the categories that I already have submenus for | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | either that or I would only put people in the education group when I wanted general stuff | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | anyway, there are some possibilities there | 02:14 |
| ogra_ | ah, nice | 02:16 |
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| stormchas3r | wow there is alot of people in #ubuntu | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: the other edgy+1 issue is editing | 02:19 |
| stormchas3r | is edubuntu meant for grades 9-12? | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: if we don't allow for .desktop editing then I think a simple GUI would be fairly easily done | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | stormchas3r: well, pretty much any educational setting I'd say | 02:20 |
| mhz | stormchas3r: yup, indeed | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | there is stuff for preschool kids | 02:20 |
| ogra_ | LaserJock, right ... an alacarte extension or something would suffice i think | 02:21 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: perhaps, I'll have to talk with Amaranth about that | 02:21 |
| mhz | stormchas3r: and if all apps are not enough, there is a bunch of edu apps we could provide from repositories ;) | 02:21 |
| stormchas3r | what about joining to a windows domain? | 02:21 |
| mhz | stormchas3r: no problem | 02:21 |
| stormchas3r | really | 02:22 |
| mhz | the issues are usually from M$ to Other systems :) | 02:22 |
| === stormchas3r used to be a avid suse user until he tried Ubuntu and never looked back | ||
| stormchas3r | The book "The official ubuntu book" is amazing. Its teaches you everything about ubuntu. I highly recommend it | 02:23 |
| mhz | me too :) | 02:24 |
| mhz | and hopefully we'll have The Edubuntu Handbook sometime soon | 02:24 |
| stormchas3r | nice | 02:25 |
| mhz | stormchas3r: are you planning to use Edubuntu at any school? or home kids? | 02:25 |
| stormchas3r | I am a network admin in 2 technical high schools and would like to implement ubuntu or edubuntu. | 02:26 |
| stormchas3r | not sure who to talk to about this | 02:26 |
| stormchas3r | and i dont want to scare them away | 02:26 |
| mhz | hehehehe | 02:29 |
| mhz | i'd talk to one teacher, show him/her some edubuntu stuff related to his/her subjects | 02:30 |
| stormchas3r | what about getting free cd's to hand out, other that the free 10 ones | 02:31 |
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| stormchas3r | I noticed edubuntu looks geared toward the younger crowd, what can you show me for high school students/ | 02:38 |
| LaserJock | well, high school is much harder, IMO, because you start getting into subject areas | 02:40 |
| LaserJock | and it becomes a little more fuzzy as to what is an "educational" app | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | but Edubuntu has access to the full Ubuntu repositories | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | so there's lots of software there | 02:41 |
| stormchas3r | do they come enabled by default, or do you have to add the repos | 02:41 |
| ogra_ | stormchas3r, use gnome-app-install ... | 02:42 |
| ogra_ | (add/remove from the main menu) | 02:42 |
| stormchas3r | ha | 02:42 |
| ogra_ | it will ust enable them if it needs them... (after asking you indeed) | 02:42 |
| stormchas3r | gotcha | 02:42 |
| stormchas3r | ty | 02:43 |
| stormchas3r | can i add the edubuntu repos on ubuntu, instead of installing edubuntu? | 02:44 |
| mhz | stormchas3r: well, edubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-servers are just packages | 02:45 |
| stormchas3r | roger that | 02:45 |
| mhz | you install them on top of any ubuntu flavor | 02:45 |
| stormchas3r | ty again | 02:45 |
| ogra_ | while installing edubuntu-server doesn tmake much sense on ubuntu ... you are better off with ltsp-server-standalone if you really want the ltsp stuff | 02:45 |
| mhz | stormchas3r: no thanks.... U$4321 :D | 02:46 |
| mhz | ogra_: well, true | 02:46 |
| ogra_ | (edubuntu-server is basically to keep the server bits on the CD together) | 02:46 |
| ogra_ | but it currently depends only on schooltool and ltsp | 02:46 |
| stormchas3r | mhz, no thanks? | 02:46 |
| mhz | stormchas3r: well, it was meant to be a joke...to your 'ty again' | 02:47 |
| stormchas3r | lol | 02:47 |
| stormchas3r | :) | 02:47 |
| mhz | :) | 02:47 |
| mhz | well, time for me to shut down...this tiny laptop is not enough for Edubuntu running XFCE desktop | 02:48 |
| mhz | between the net lag of this cibercafe and the RAM lack...it is kind of painful | 02:49 |
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| jsgotangco | hey Burgundavia | 03:15 |
| Burgundavia | hey jsgotangco | 03:15 |
| jsgotangco | how you doing lately? | 03:16 |
| Burgundavia | not bad | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | good to hear | 03:18 |
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| Burgundavia | hmm, what happened to my work machine? | 03:19 |
| Burgundavia | given I am not there. | 03:19 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | hmm jjesse reviewed his own book in amazon? hehe | 03:20 |
| LaserJock | haha | 03:20 |
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| P3L|C4N0 | greetings | 03:20 |
| Burgundavia | that is what authors are supposed to do | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | really? | 03:20 |
| Amaranth | ? | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | "The best part of this book is the chapter on Kubuntu" | 03:20 |
| LaserJock | how do you roll your eyes in IRC? | 03:21 |
| Burgundavia | right | 03:21 |
| Amaranth | are you talking about that linux tech show | 03:21 |
| Burgundavia | apparently | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | Amaranth: amazon review of the ubuntu book | 03:21 |
| Burgundavia | by one of the authors | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | 0_0 | 03:21 |
| Amaranth | ah | 03:21 |
| Amaranth | jono? :) | 03:22 |
| Burgundavia | no, jjesse | 03:22 |
| Amaranth | About that book: yay screenshots of alacarte, boo full-size screenshots in the example content version :) | 03:22 |
| jsgotangco | we dont have the book available locally so I dont have it | 03:23 |
| === gnomefreak likes the book :) | ||
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 04:58 |
| jsgotangco | hi! | 05:00 |
| sbalneav | Hey jsgotangco | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 05:09 |
| sbalneav | hey LaserJock | 05:09 |
| sbalneav | How's it going? | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | ok | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | I can't for the life of me get NX going | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | but I did upload edubuntu-menus today to Universe | 05:09 |
| sbalneav | Oooh | 05:10 |
| sbalneav | Cool | 05:10 |
| sbalneav | Congrats on the completed spec! | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | yeah, until somebody breaks it | 05:15 |
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| === HedgeMage peeks in | ||
| RichEd | hi HedgeMage :) | 08:40 |
| HedgeMage | What's up ? | 08:47 |
| RichEd | The feature freeze was last night ... probably lost of tired people this morning. | 08:55 |
| RichEd | *lots | 08:55 |
| HedgeMage | I bet. | 08:56 |
| HedgeMage | I feel bad for not being around, but between the unexpected trip to my folks' place and hubby's surgery and such, I've hardly been online in weeks. | 08:56 |
| RichEd | I'm busy with User / Stakeholder Categorisation to identify and profile our target audiences : First step in bringing more "end user" focus to our web and info presence. | 08:57 |
| RichEd | Hope hubby is okay ? | 08:57 |
| HedgeMage | He will be | 08:57 |
| RichEd | good :) | 08:57 |
| HedgeMage | Thanks. | 08:57 |
| HedgeMage | If you have a minute, what do you think of I'm no artist, but an article I read recently gave me the idea to try to toss something together. I thought we might change the color for each release. | 08:58 |
| HedgeMage | oops | 08:59 |
| HedgeMage | screwed up paste... sorry | 08:59 |
| HedgeMage | I meant, if you have a minute, what do you think of http://www.binaryredneck.net/node/72 ? It's my backup plan in case Handbook is so behind we can't get the art team to help us with a cover. | 08:59 |
| RichEd | hi ... looks good | 09:04 |
| RichEd | pete savages wife has been doing some artwork for us | 09:04 |
| RichEd | For future thinking, I'll mail you the user / stakeholder first pass doc so you can see the wide range of people we need to address. | 09:05 |
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| RichEd | This will all get fleshed out onto a wiki and then a portal area. Yo'ull see that the audience is a lot wider than your title at present :) | 09:06 |
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| HedgeMage | Cool :) | 09:07 |
| HedgeMage | I tried to at least keep it from looking like it was just for young kids (which is the impression I think too many people get) | 09:08 |
| RichEd | HedgeMage: ping window right -> | 09:08 |
| HedgeMage | just saw it :) | 09:08 |
| RichEd | you'll see from the doc that we have iCafe's using Edubntu because of the LTSP | 09:08 |
| cbx33 | mornin dudes and dudeettes | 09:09 |
| cbx33 | ping ogra | 09:09 |
| RichEd | highvoltage is rolling out 1000 this upcoming year | 09:09 |
| highvoltage | well, not me, the company I work for :) | 09:10 |
| RichEd | so we will not do a one version fits all handbook, nor a one version per sub-category, but maybe a few broad target versions ... it should unfold as we explore | 09:10 |
| RichEd | I'm adding the handbook to the resource list now for mapping | 09:10 |
| RichEd | good morning cbx33 : how are you this fine friday ? | 09:11 |
| HedgeMage | cool | 09:11 |
| HedgeMage | Just keep in mind we're having enough trouble getting ONE handbook out, :/ | 09:11 |
| cbx33 | RichEd: I'm doing great | 09:11 |
| === HedgeMage pounces cbx33 | ||
| cbx33 | people seem to love the new UbuntuSounds, which has made me extra cool this morning | 09:11 |
| RichEd | How did the freeze go last night ? I did not get a chance to pop my head in. | 09:11 |
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| cbx33 | Hiya HedgeMage | 09:12 |
| cbx33 | RichEd: freeze was good, most things got in | 09:12 |
| HedgeMage | wow, talk about timing... Hi, pygi | 09:12 |
| pygi | Morning all | 09:12 |
| RichEd | pygi: hi were the presentations useful ? | 09:12 |
| cbx33 | I'm just waiting to talk to ogra about SCP and Pessulus | 09:12 |
| cbx33 | I fear that the pessulus patch I did, did not get in, which means I'll have to drop some features from SCP | 09:12 |
| pygi | RichEd, didn't had time to look yet :-/ | 09:12 |
| cbx33 | unless an exception can be raised | 09:13 |
| pygi | cbx33, well it can, just depends on particular case | 09:13 |
| cbx33 | which I have no idea about....so I'm waiting to speak to ogra ;) - But I think he's going to be largely resting today | 09:13 |
| RichEd | okay ... i'll send you a mail today ... need to mail acesuares as well ... similar topic | 09:13 |
| pygi | RichEd, ok :) Seems on that page there is just one edubuntu general presentation | 09:14 |
| RichEd | yep ... we're on a drive to improve marketing / brochures / web portal audience specific pages ... will add PRESENTATIONS to my user & stakeholder category doc. | 09:15 |
| RichEd | So, when you & I produce a new version from the existing one, we'll bring it into the arsenal :) | 09:15 |
| HedgeMage | pygi: any clue when we can attempt to get handbook folks together | 09:16 |
| pygi | RichEd, hehe, ok :) | 09:16 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, Handbook folks = me, you, mhz :P | 09:16 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, and I definitly hope soon, because of the following reasons: | 09:16 |
| pygi | 1)I'm very busy anyway | 09:16 |
| pygi | 2)I'll be even busier later | 09:16 |
| pygi | RichEd, I hope I can get some exclusive edu informations for presentation :) | 09:17 |
| HedgeMage | pygi: and RobinSheapard and Joyce | 09:17 |
| HedgeMage | pygi: mhz has limited 'net access right now, IIRC | 09:17 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, ahm, ok, but I haven't heard from none of them | 09:17 |
| RichEd | pygi ... we'll define your audience, and refine a good pitch. | 09:18 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, I have limited sleep access :) | 09:18 |
| cbx33 | how are you HedgeMage | 09:18 |
| pygi | RichEd, it would be good if we could define it, but oh well :) | 09:18 |
| HedgeMage | robin has made svn commits, joyce gave me a phone call not long ago, I can get ahold of her any time as I'm good friends with her fella | 09:18 |
| === RichEd needs to get ready & presentable for a face-2-face meeting ... will pop my head back in before I leave | ||
| HedgeMage | okay see you soon :) | 09:19 |
| pygi | laters RichEd | 09:19 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, so you decide, I'm up for any day you want mostly | 09:24 |
| HedgeMage | Monday then? | 09:25 |
| HedgeMage | pygi: any particular time? | 09:26 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, 20 UTC | 09:26 |
| === HedgeMage does math | ||
| HedgeMage | Sounds good :) | 09:26 |
| pygi | Is that good for mhz? | 09:26 |
| HedgeMage | let me check the last email he sent to the list | 09:26 |
| HedgeMage | Yep, that's within the range he gave. | 09:27 |
| pygi | oki | 09:27 |
| pygi | then contact other two people | 09:28 |
| HedgeMage | I'll drop an email to the fridge folks now, then joyce and robin and the pertinant email lists. | 09:28 |
| pygi | oki :) | 09:28 |
| HedgeMage | Pertinent emails are sent... I'm off to bed now | 09:38 |
| === HedgeMage waves | ||
| === RichEd is out to a meeting at 12 Plein Street | ||
| highvoltage | RichEd: I think there's only like, 2 people in #edubuntu who would know what that means :) | 09:58 |
| cbx33 | yup | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | and one of those isn'tme | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | just like the joke I made yesterday | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | http://progbox.co.uk/benzene.jpg | 09:59 |
| === RichEd is out to a meeting at Canonical Offices in Cape Town, South Africa. Anyone in the vicinity is welcome to join for a cup of coffee. | ||
| cbx33 | oooooh Nice! | 10:00 |
| pygi | highvoltage, !!! | 10:00 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: okay so you bust me cutting and pasting from the #canonical message :P | 10:00 |
| === RichEd was trying to save time and keystrokes but to no avail ;) | ||
| highvoltage | heh | 10:01 |
| highvoltage | pygi: I haven't followed your instructions yet | 10:01 |
| pygi | highvoltage, I know :) | 10:01 |
| highvoltage | pygi: I'll have to do it either very late tonight, or very early tomorrow morning | 10:01 |
| highvoltage | but it's friday night tonight so it shouldn't be a problem :) | 10:01 |
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| cbx33 | mornin jono | 10:02 |
| pygi | highvoltage, heh, ok, I'll give you further instructions once you are done with this | 10:02 |
| jono | hey | 10:03 |
| highvoltage | jey jono | 10:03 |
| highvoltage | people call me jono too IRL so it's strange to see your nick :) | 10:03 |
| jono | highvoltage, jonos unite! :) | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | Just be thankful they don;t call you Joner | 10:04 |
| highvoltage | jono: yeah! | 10:04 |
| jono | heh | 10:04 |
| highvoltage | jono: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/JOCUAMAOE | 10:05 |
| highvoltage | jono: ^^^ that's from my local LUG :) | 10:05 |
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| pygi | highvoltage, poke? :))) | 10:18 |
| pygi | seems like libburn will soon work on freebsd as well ^_^ | 10:18 |
| cbx33 | wow | 10:20 |
| cbx33 | nice pygi | 10:20 |
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| pygi | 1246 lines | 10:20 |
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| tsurc | Think I have fixed the NIS with LDA problem | 11:46 |
| cbx33 | tsurc: :D | 11:47 |
| tsurc | yep, turns out that NIS doesn't use any goup under ID 1000 and the clients will use the setting of a local group by default. | 11:48 |
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| tsurc | so get rid of the local fuse group, change ID of the fuse group on the NIS server to something like 1133 and change permissions on the /dev/fuse, /usr/bin/fusermount and enything that should be owned by fuse group to match and presto. | 11:51 |
| pygi | tsurc, you are welcome to write wiki page, you know;) | 11:51 |
| tsurc | I know.. take a look at LinkAggrigation page ;) not my best work but its there for future reference | 11:53 |
| tsurc | LRL06 inspired me to finaly get of my skinny backside and write something(thank you mr bacon.. sterling work) | 11:57 |
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| ogra | cbx33, pitti promised to look at it today | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | ogra: :D | 12:24 |
| cbx33 | ogra: I talked to vuntz and seb128 | 12:24 |
| cbx33 | they want me to make a change | 12:25 |
| ogra | ok | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | but they are happy with the concept | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | they want me to break my additions out in to a seperate class | 12:25 |
| ogra | seb just asked me if we really need that change ... is it a big difference ? | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | to pessulus? | 12:25 |
| ogra | ah | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | it won't work without it | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | pessulus integration won't work without that patch | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | it allows modification of anyones gconf key, assuming you have permission of course | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | pessulus by default edits your own keys only | 12:26 |
| ogra | yes, i know | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | sorry ogra I've been flowing that sentence out a lot lately | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | I'm not 100% sure how they want it broken out | 12:26 |
| cbx33 | just trying to get that out of vuntz | 12:27 |
| ogra | ok | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | because the only real way I can see would mean duping a whole section of code | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | which seems unnecessary | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | my changes are only small | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pessulus/+bug/59490 | 12:28 |
| cbx33 | ogra: did you see the new artwork I poseted last night | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | some concepts | 12:30 |
| ogra | nope, i didnt | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | http://progbox.co.uk/EduWIP1.jpg | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | http://progbox.co.uk/EduWIP2.jpg | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | comments appreciated | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | more for hugher edu theme | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | ogra: can you confrim from seb128, if they are integrating now on the proviso I make the change, or waiting till I make the change | 12:31 |
| ogra | the artwork looks sweet :) | 12:32 |
| cbx33 | Burgwork: said there look like too much english text | 12:33 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: are those that lisa made? | 12:33 |
| cbx33 | I made those | 12:34 |
| highvoltage | cool :) | 12:34 |
| cbx33 | under lisas direction | 12:34 |
| pygi | highvoltage, you again :) | 12:34 |
| highvoltage | pygi: heh | 12:35 |
| jsgotangco | hey guys | 12:36 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, hey ho | 12:36 |
| jsgotangco | how it going all | 12:37 |
| jsgotangco | its too yellowish hmmm | 12:37 |
| jsgotangco | but not bad | 12:37 |
| cbx33 | hehe jsgotangco | 12:37 |
| highvoltage | hey jsgotangco | 12:37 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: hi! | 12:38 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: how's the new job? (or did I mis-quick-read recent #edubuntu activity?) | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: pretty good, 4-day workweek | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | actually i get a 3 day weekend | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:39 |
| highvoltage | wow | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | so im pretty much enjoying today | 12:39 |
| === highvoltage bows | ||
| cbx33 | alright for some eh? | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: well regular working hours at office is 9am to 7pm | 12:39 |
| cbx33 | yikes | 12:39 |
| cbx33 | ok I can see why | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | but since the traffic here is so bad going out of office at 7pm isnt bad | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | for city people here, leaving at work at 7pm is pretty normal | 12:40 |
| jsgotangco | but then i get to work at home too | 12:40 |
| jsgotangco | *sniff* JaneW said my car is cheap boohoooo | 12:46 |
| highvoltage | my car is cheap too, but I love it. | 12:49 |
| ogra | cbx33, see -devel :)) | 12:50 |
| cbx33 | :) | 12:51 |
| ogra | bah, the merge yesterday broke everyhing in ltsp :( | 12:58 |
| cbx33 | whhaaa?? | 01:17 |
| cbx33 | is that why its kept back on my machine? | 01:17 |
| ogra | no | 01:18 |
| ogra | it only breaks the ltsp-build-client script | 01:19 |
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| pygi | cbx33, poke? | 01:34 |
| pygi | com'on, awake yourself cbx33 :) | 01:40 |
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| cbx33 | I'm here | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | sorry pygi | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | sorry pygi | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | on a friday at lunch, me and some of the pupils go and play music down in the music room | 02:19 |
| cbx33 | we just recorded a song which was amix between the phrase "I want an Ice Cream, give me one now", Smells Like Teen Spirit and The Self Preservation Society | 02:20 |
| pygi | cbx33, oki, you have time now :) | 02:21 |
| pygi | read pm :) | 02:22 |
| cbx33 | ok | 02:23 |
| Petaris | Anyone had luck installing linneighborhood on amd64 edubuntu? | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | eh? what this email about? | 03:05 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco: are you on edgy? | 03:08 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 03:32 |
| pygi | ho hey bddebian :) | 03:32 |
| bddebian | Hi pygi | 03:33 |
| pygi | how are you? | 03:33 |
| bddebian | Tired man thanks. You? | 03:34 |
| pygi | tired also, otherwise fantastic :) | 03:34 |
| pygi | I never thought libburn can advance at such high rate | 03:35 |
| bddebian | That's awesome :-) | 03:35 |
| pygi | indeed :) | 03:36 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: yeah | 03:36 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all. | 03:45 |
| pygi | morning sbalneav | 03:46 |
| sbalneav | Morning pygi | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Hello sbalneav | 03:49 |
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| pygi | cbx33, bddebian sorry , got dced | 03:58 |
| cbx33 | heh | 03:58 |
| cbx33 | np | 03:58 |
| bddebian | NP | 04:01 |
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| Jon335|Linux | I noticed that KTouch is v1.5 on Edubuntu, and the latest version is 1.6, what is the easiest way to upgrade? | 04:09 |
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| tsurc | what would the command be to uninstall gnome-power-manager without breaking any dependancy in dapper. | 04:11 |
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| sbalneav | tsurc: Trying to eliminate the hibernate feature? | 04:13 |
| sbalneav | on thin clients? | 04:13 |
| ogra | tsurc, its not possible ... | 04:13 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 04:13 |
| cbx33 | just remove and re-install | 04:14 |
| ogra | i wrote a fix for gnome-power-manager yesterday | 04:14 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 04:14 |
| cbx33 | I know | 04:14 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 04:14 |
| ogra | it will enter dapper next week (i hope) | 04:14 |
| sbalneav | tsurc: I can step you though what you need to do in gconf-editor to fixit. | 04:14 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/70-suppress-pm-actions-on-ltsp.patch | 04:15 |
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| ogra | its already in the edgy pacage ... | 04:15 |
| sbalneav | ogra: nice. | 04:16 |
| === ogra is really impressed by bzr ... | ||
| ogra | i merged 125 revisions from vagrant yesterday night ... and only have three small breakages | 04:16 |
| cbx33 | ogra: you da man | 04:16 |
| cbx33 | anywork on SCP | 04:16 |
| cbx33 | pessulus is in ;) | 04:16 |
| ogra | yup, i saw it | 04:17 |
| sbalneav | ogra: I figured out my problem with 010-mount-proc | 04:17 |
| ogra | pitti said we should probably poke more | 04:17 |
| ogra | but he wanted to look today | 04:17 |
| cbx33 | poke him | 04:17 |
| cbx33 | I don;t want fire breathed on me | 04:17 |
| ogra | sbalneav, that was a quick fix of mine for usplash ... | 04:17 |
| sbalneav | My ltsp-build-client failed, so I've been re-running ltsp-build-client, but there's nothing that UNMOUNTS /proc in the build-client | 04:17 |
| ogra | sbalneav, was already gone from my tree when your mail arrived, since uspash cares for fd itself now | 04:17 |
| tsurc | tried the app->gnome-power-manager->can_hibernate uncheck trick | 04:17 |
| tsurc | didn't work | 04:18 |
| tsurc | :( | 04:18 |
| ogra | sbalneav, it is :) | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | tsurc: Did you mark it as "manditory"? | 04:18 |
| tsurc | ? | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | What you want to do (or how I do it) is: | 04:18 |
| tsurc | take that as a no | 04:18 |
| ogra | sbalneav, have a look at the on_exit function in ltsp-build-client | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | gksu gconf-editor | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | gnome-power-manager | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | uncheck can_hibernate | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | Then right click on it, and... | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | mark it "manditory" | 04:19 |
| sbalneav | that way, it's for all users, and not overridable. | 04:19 |
| ogra | and do the same for can_suspend | 04:20 |
| tsurc | ah ha thats the same as mandatory right? | 04:20 |
| ogra | but as i said, the fix should be in next week anyway | 04:20 |
| tsurc | have done the susspend too | 04:20 |
| tsurc | ;) | 04:20 |
| tsurc | cool | 04:20 |
| sbalneav | err, yeah, mandatory :) | 04:21 |
| tsurc | \o/ for ogra...and Mr Balneav ;) | 04:22 |
| === sbalneav looks | ||
| tsurc | and jim | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | *MR* Balneaves? what, is my dad here? :) | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | I'm just plain old Scott :) | 04:22 |
| sbalneav | No Mr required :) | 04:22 |
| ogra | mr.scott ? | 04:23 |
| ogra | :) | 04:23 |
| sbalneav | I canna hol 'er cap'n! | 04:23 |
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| sbalneav | Th' dilithium crystals canna take it. | 04:23 |
| ogra | if oyu look in mount-proc, you will see it uses chroot_mount | 04:23 |
| pygi | RichEd, !!! | 04:23 |
| tsurc | respect where respect is due, "all" you guys do some great work. | 04:23 |
| ogra | chroot_mount adds all mounted dirs in the chroot to a list (CHROOT_MOUNTED) | 04:24 |
| ogra | on_exit unmounts all dirs of that list on exit | 04:24 |
| cbx33 | ogra: nice ;) | 04:25 |
| RichEd | hi pygi | 04:27 |
| pygi | hey RichEd | 04:27 |
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| jsgotangco | wow its only today i noticed the new sounds | 04:56 |
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| tsurc | that did the job, thanks.. erm.... scott (and of course ogra :)) | 04:58 |
| ogra | great :) | 04:59 |
| tsurc | think i'm off home it's 4pm I've been working since 8am Havn't had any lunch, bacause at 5 to 12 the one pivital switch that keeps the network going whent pop. | 05:01 |
| Jon335 | So how should I go about upgrading KTouch to 1.6 in Ehubuntu? | 05:04 |
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| pygi | bddebian, poke? | 05:31 |
| bddebian | Yo | 05:38 |
| pygi | bddebian, any news? :) | 05:42 |
| bddebian | pygi: No not yet, I'm at work :-( | 05:42 |
| pygi | ahm, oki bddebian :) | 05:42 |
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| kaos|STORMCHAS3R | edubuntu-server, how would i use this? | 05:55 |
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| cbx33 | hi ogra any news from pitti? | 06:01 |
| kaos|STORMCHAS3R | Were can I find doc for edubuntu-server | 06:02 |
| cbx33 | kaos|STORMCHAS3R, what do you need? | 06:03 |
| cbx33 | Hi LaserJock | 06:03 |
| sbalneav | kaos|STORMCHAS3R: Have you searched on the wiki? | 06:03 |
| kaos|STORMCHAS3R | yes i have searched the wiki, what is the server for? | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: did you see pessulus go by in edgy-changes :-) | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | yup ;) | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | I had to fight a little for that one;) | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | I still have changes to do to make vuntz and seb128 happy | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | kaos|STORMCHAS3R: it is a meta-package for installing an LTSP server from the install CD | 06:05 |
| kaos|STORMCHAS3R | gotcha, ill search the wiki more, srry | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | kaos|STORMCHAS3R: well, what are you trying to do? | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu-server isn't the best way to install an LTSP server | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | from Ubuntu | 06:07 |
| === kaos|STORMCHAS3R is just trying to learn what edubuntu is all about | ||
| LaserJock | ok, cool | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | the website (www.edubuntu.org) has a fair amount of info | 06:08 |
| kaos|STORMCHAS3R | looking now | 06:09 |
| kaos|STORMCHAS3R | How would I join a edubuntu workstation to a windows domain? | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | kaos|STORMCHAS3R: not sure, I'm a bad person to ask unfortunately | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | as I've never done an LTSP install | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | but I believe it can be done | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | kaos|STORMCHAS3R, what do you want to achieve | 06:14 |
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| kaos|STORMCHAS3R | cbx33, i want to be able to join to the domain | 06:21 |
| Amaranth | cbx33: after a little more usage the login sound is probably the perfect length | 06:22 |
| Amaranth | for me on cold boot the sound goes away right before my desktop is completely ready to use | 06:22 |
| LaserJock | Amaranth: do you have any problems adding "bad" items the the content filter in the GUI? | 06:27 |
| Amaranth | no? | 06:27 |
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| LaserJock | Amaranth: hmm, ok | 06:28 |
| Amaranth | what happens for you? | 06:28 |
| sbalneav | ogra: ping | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | well, robert day said that when he tried my backported (yeah, yeah) 0.3 package he got an error or something when adding to the "bad" list in the content filter | 06:29 |
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| LaserJock | Amaranth: is there a way to reset the content filter db? | 06:34 |
| Amaranth | LaserJock: sudo rm /etc/willowng/training.db | 06:35 |
| Jon335 | So how should I go about upgrading KTouch to 1.6 in Edubuntu? | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | ok | 06:35 |
| cbx33 | thanks Amaranth | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | wahooo, my browser crashed when I tried to go to microsoft.com | 06:42 |
| bddebian | heh | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | but I put it in for "bad content" but it let me go there anyway :/ | 06:48 |
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| cylix | I'm running LTSP and when I use the who or w command it does not show all users that are logged in. Can anyone tell me why? Is it a bug? | 07:12 |
| Petaris | cylix: I have noticed that as well | 07:18 |
| Burgwork | could it be that they are logged into the chroot? | 07:19 |
| cylix | Petaris, Yeah I can still find out who is logged in with ps but that not very good. | 07:19 |
| cylix | Burgwork, no chroot | 07:19 |
| cylix | about 3 users show of the 15 logged in. | 07:20 |
| cylix | guess I need to go into the source and see how who gets its info. | 07:22 |
| Petaris | or write a script to pull it from ps | 07:28 |
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| mhz | hi all | 07:51 |
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| mhz | RichEd: are you there? | 08:53 |
| pygi | mhz, can you attend? | 09:08 |
| mhz | pygi: ? | 09:10 |
| mhz | hi there | 09:11 |
| pygi | mhz, handbook, monday | 09:11 |
| mhz | pygi: time? | 09:11 |
| pygi | mhz, 20 UTC | 09:11 |
| mhz | yeah, if web lag is not present, sure | 09:11 |
| mhz | any email about it? | 09:11 |
| LaserJock | haha, I was just reading a computing magazine while heating up lunch | 09:12 |
| pygi | mhz, yes | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | there was a little blurb about a Vista beta tester that had problems with IE7 | 09:12 |
| mhz | lol | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | and reportedly the MS support people told him to us Firefox or Opera | 09:13 |
| LaserJock | *use | 09:13 |
| bddebian | heh | 09:13 |
| mhz | their biz-developing model can't be perfect else, they would not make any money ot of it | 09:14 |
| mhz | ot = out | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | I would have had a laughing fit if they had said "Use Ubuntu, that's what we do" ;-) | 09:15 |
| mhz | hehehehehe, they can only say it off the record | 09:16 |
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| mhz | re | 09:37 |
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| === pygi thinks -tao is very close | ||
| mhz | pygi: I got no email about EHB meeting proposal | 09:46 |
| pygi | mhz, Susan sent it | 09:47 |
| pygi | mhz, it's monday 20:00 UTC, that's all you must know :) | 09:47 |
| mhz | hehe, true | 09:47 |
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| mhz | neurogeek: hey | 10:00 |
| mhz | got a min? | 10:00 |
| neurogeek | mhz, Hello!! | 10:00 |
| neurogeek | finally | 10:00 |
| mhz | yup | 10:00 |
| mhz | pm? | 10:00 |
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| mhz | neurogeek: BTW, jsgotanco has experience on mobile devices, as well. | 10:32 |
| mhz | neurogeek: but his usually awake while we are sleeping :) | 10:32 |
| neurogeek | mhz, good to know that! | 10:33 |
| mhz | neurogeek: and in Philipines, sure they have 'experience' | 10:33 |
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| mhz_off | bye all | 10:35 |
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| Jon335 | How would I go about updating a package or getting it updated? | 11:12 |
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| LaserJock | Jon335: what package? | 11:16 |
| Jon335 | KTouch | 11:17 |
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| pygi | HedgeMage, !!! | 11:23 |
| HedgeMage | hi pygi :) | 11:23 |
| LaserJock | Jon335: and in which release? sorry, I've been away | 11:29 |
| Jon335 | Dapper | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | ahhh | 11:30 |
| LaserJock | Jon335: do you know if edgy has the version you want? | 11:30 |
| Jon335 | dunno, they are marked by KDE version not the actual KTouch version | 11:31 |
| Jon335 | I'll look | 11:31 |
| Jon335 | looks like the latest vorsion is in edgy, yes | 11:32 |
| Jon335 | *version | 11:32 |
| LaserJock | Jon335: would it require new KDE libs? | 11:33 |
| LaserJock | if it does it might not be able to be backported | 11:35 |
| LaserJock | if it's just KTouch then you could open a backport bug (ask #ubuntu-motu with help with that) | 11:35 |
| pygi | HedgeMage, how have you been? | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | I gotta reboot, I'll brb | 11:36 |
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| Burgwork | anybody here used sf.net's svn? | 12:01 |
| LaserJock | nope just alioth's | 12:02 |
| Burgwork | hmm, cause I am failing to connect | 12:02 |
| pygi | Burgwork, yes, it's bad | 12:03 |
| pygi | try several times | 12:03 |
| Jon335 | LaserJock: From #ubuntu-MOTU: "why...kde 3.5.4 packages are available from kubuntu.org...just get it from kubuntu.org" | 12:03 |
| LaserJock | arrgg, who said that? | 12:04 |
| ogra | LaserJock, guess :) | 12:04 |
| Jon335 | LaserJock: Riddell | 12:04 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure I understand that | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | they all come from the same repo | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | and then point is that you want KTouch updated in Dapper, right? | 12:05 |
| Burgwork | hmm, where are the bzr packages for FC4? | 12:05 |
| Jon335 | LaserJock: Exactly | 12:12 |
| Jon335 | LaserJock: I was thinking the same thing | 12:12 |
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