[12:13] <nixternal> woohoo
[02:21] <jjesse> nixternal: did i miss anything good in the mtg?
[02:31] <nixternal> everything was good at the meeting ;)
[02:32] <jjesse> goopd sorry i misssed it
[02:32] <nixternal> the big thing that involved anything remotely with us, was the idea of "seperation" again...but i let every know that they are free to edit wiki and docs
[02:32] <jjesse> agreed, i don't understand why they always push for speration, but never contribute to the docs
[02:32] <jjesse> frustarting
[02:33] <nixternal> i shouldn't say 'everyone' either...there was only a couple of the newer members who might not have known the the docs all fall under the Ubuntu Documentation Project
[02:33] <nixternal> jjesse: i did the same thing in my infancy here as well
[02:33] <jjesse> maybe we need to explain it a bit further
[02:33] <jjesse> somehow
[02:34] <nixternal> well..i think that once the "How to Contribute" comes about as well, it will all fall into a place a little bit more
[02:34] <nixternal> i know some of the newer members were talking about how docs needed to be edited, thinking that the development team did all of that as well
[02:34] <jjesse> i hope
[02:35] <nixternal> i let them know...as for Kubuntu docs, right now there is jjesse, trappist, robotgeek, and me
[02:35] <nixternal> that do a majority right now
[02:35] <jjesse> and anyone can feel free to submit patches :)
[02:35] <LaserJock> is there any "Contributing to Kubuntu" material on the wiki or something?
[02:35] <nixternal> ya, i let them know
[02:35] <nixternal> LaserJock: there is, but very 'eh' at best
[02:35] <jjesse> i think so
[02:36] <nixternal> it is old too, as there is Kubuntu Docs, Kubuntu LoCo, and Kubuntu Marketing
[02:36] <nixternal> hehe
[02:36] <jjesse> wow its old: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
[02:36] <nixternal> utilizing Andreas' work, I will probably either create Kubuntu specific doco on that topic for the wiki
[02:36] <LaserJock> well, no matter what you do people will always be like "I have a great idea, lets for a new team for docs" ;-)
[02:36] <jjesse> needs some loving
[02:37] <jjesse> hmm its all setup for dapper :(
[02:37] <nixternal> ya...you know what..i thought the whole "lets create a team to do..." was cool for a while..but after hanging out here, in this channel alone, has made me aware of some 'not so good' ideas ;)
[02:38] <nixternal> i know one thing that Riddell and myself talked about was creating a doc "Kubuntu on the Web" that is similar to the "KDE on the Web" doc..this will link a lot of the Kubuntu specific pages/locations
[02:38] <jjesse> +1 to that
[02:39] <LaserJock> I haven't heard of "KDE on the Web"
[02:39] <nixternal> im definitely planning on making it look better than the current KDE version as well..as that is pretty vanilla
[02:39] <LaserJock> got a URL?
[02:39] <nixternal> KHelpCenter ;)
[02:39] <LaserJock> oh really?
[02:39] <nixternal> lemme grab a url for you as well
[02:39] <nixternal> ya
[02:39] <LaserJock> well, I'll get edgy Kubuntu soon
[02:40] <LaserJock> my edgy Edubuntu is 3 min from being done
[02:40] <LaserJock> then I'll aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <nixternal> hehe
[02:51] <nixternal> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/khelpcenter/contact-the-kde-team.html
[02:51] <nixternal> that isn't it, but that is neat
[02:53] <nixternal> heh, that is it ;)
[02:54] <nixternal> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/khelpcenter/contact-developers.html
[02:55] <nixternal> something along the lines of those 2
[05:15] <nixternal> robotgeek!  hey, were you still interested in splitting up the KDG in order to get it done by next week?
[05:15] <robotgeek> yessir
[05:15] <nixternal> alrighty...sling me some chapters and i will work away
[05:16] <nixternal> maybe post it on the the list, so we don't get some cross-work going on
[05:16] <robotgeek> jjesse has already done most of the work, i guess. 
[05:16] <robotgeek> the partions chapter needs to be relooked at. 
[05:16] <nixternal> ok
[05:17] <robotgeek> and i am not sure how the nvidia/ati stuff has changed. other than that, we seem to be okay. 
[05:17] <robotgeek> no new additions, though. 
[05:18] <nixternal> so, nothing needs to be added to those, just looked over?
[05:18] <nixternal> no new additions, as in new chapters
[05:18] <nixternal> got it
[05:18] <robotgeek> yes, unless we want to add new material. :)
[05:19] <nixternal> i don't think there should be anything new
[05:19] <nixternal> nothing has really changed since dapper
[05:19] <robotgeek> cool, then mostly looking over stuff, i guess
[05:20] <nixternal> alrighty...i will work on the partition and vid sections then
[05:20] <robotgeek> i will look and see how the add remove stuff has changed, if at all
[05:20] <nixternal> it hasn't changed really
[05:21] <nixternal> system settings is the only thing that has really changed, and probably needs/needed redocumenting in a sort
[05:21] <robotgeek> there is not much about system settings anyway. 
[05:21] <nixternal> power management, printer sharing, hotkeys are small sections if needed at all as well
[05:21] <robotgeek> maybe mention it to change resolution or so. 
[05:22] <nixternal> ahh
[05:22] <robotgeek> not sure, i will take a look at it tommorow, and see if something needs to be added. i havent seen edgy yet, sadly
[05:24] <robotgeek> nixternal: cool, if you can take care of that, i will take care of the rest :)
[05:24] <nixternal> sure..i can help out anywhere you need me to on it
[05:25] <nixternal> im taking care of the "about kubuntu" as well, ans started the "release notes" which jjesse has just added a patch to as well
[05:25] <nixternal> actually...about kubuntu wasn't much/isn't much anyways..version changes, and a rewording of support really
[05:25] <robotgeek> unfortunately, i havent had time of late. maybe next time around
[05:25] <nixternal> edgy isn't getting long term support, since the whole idea behind it is to be the foundation of future releases
[05:26] <nixternal> are you back in school or what?
[05:26] <robotgeek> no, still working till this month end. school (hopefully) from jan
[05:27] <nixternal> ahh..i thought maybe you headed back for a second..but maybe i remember reading your blog about a job as well
[05:28] <robotgeek> yeah. thats keeping me busy (as it should)
[05:28] <nixternal> hehe
[05:28] <robotgeek> anyways, i'll be back again tommorow
[05:28] <nixternal> alrighty..ttyl
[05:28] <robotgeek> later
[12:29] <philbull> Hey guys
[12:29] <philbull> I have a question...
[12:30] <philbull> what would be required to get a product added to launchpad for the switching from windows guide?
[12:31] <philbull> would it need to be accepted into ubuntu-docs?
[05:14] <jjesse> nixternal: sent an email to you and mdke about getting you setup w/ svn access
[05:15] <jsgotangco> file it on the request tracker, it'll be much faster, unless (i do not know) mdke can actually create svn accounts now
[05:17] <jjesse> i don't know how to file it on the request tracker
[05:19] <mdke> i'll do it, sure
[05:29] <jjesse> thanks mdke
[08:29] <mdke> mpt: has the Yelp online search feature been implemented for Edgy? If so, would you open a bug to remove the "Online documentation" entry in the Help menu?
[08:48] <Burgwork> mdke, yes
[09:44] <mdke> Burgwork: yes to my question to mpt?
[10:14] <mdke> Burgwork: as in, it searches the Ubuntu help wiki as a fallback?
[10:15] <Burgwork> mdke, yes, ask shaunm for more details
[10:57] <mdke> Burgwork: well, I know the feature exists in yelp, I want to know if it has been patched for Ubuntu to work with our documentation site
[10:58] <mdke> I don't think shaun will know
[10:59] <Burgwork> mdke, jdub did the work on the gnome side
[11:12] <mdke> Burgwork: I think we're at cross purposes. I am aware it works with Gnome, I want to know if it has been modified to work with ubuntu
[11:15] <Burgwork> mdke, the plan is for it to work with distros
[11:16] <Burgwork> just a sec, let me get you a link
[11:17] <Burgwork> http://live.gnome.org/SearchingOnlineHelp
[11:23] <mdke> Burgwork: yes, it was designed to, and does work with our help wiki. I just want to know if yelp has been patched already
[11:23] <Burgwork> hmm, no idea
[11:23] <Burgwork> ask seb128 or dholbach
[11:44] <Burgwork> mdke, what is the default svn commit message editor in ubuntu?
[11:44] <Burgwork> need to set it in FC4 here
[11:51] <mdke> Burgwork: not sure. It's nano on dapper, I'm fairly sure
[11:51] <mdke> it's determined by whatever is the default editor
[11:53] <Burgwork> can you believe that FC4 doesn't have EDITOR or VISUAL set?
[11:54] <mdke> I don't know much about it, but I don't have either of those on my dapper
[11:54] <mdke> if they are environment variables
[11:55] <Burgwork> they are. SVN is apparently looking for them
[11:55] <Burgwork> do you have SVN_EDITOR set?
[11:57] <mdke> Burgwork: no, it just uses the default system editor
[11:59] <Burgwork> right
[11:59] <Burgwork> apparently FC4 has no concept of that