[12:11] If the user doesn't have the Gnome stuff installed, he gets frustrated because the wiki is giving false info [12:11] OK, /me shuts up. [12:11] Fujitsu: effectively, and that the people in #kubuntu-devel only tend to do kde based packages, instead of any and all [12:11] sorry, still waking up here [12:12] hehe [12:12] Hawkwind: ive been seeing alot of wikis saying open your fav. text editor (i dont like it but thats what people have been doing) [12:12] gnomefreak: Even that we need to change IMO [12:12] gnomefreak: you have to look over the Doc style guide as well, since that is what they really wanted to style the wiki after as well [12:12] A lot of users have no idea what editor exists in Linux [12:12] Hawkwind, ok i still dont see this as a problem as you come accross them fixem ? [12:12] but i agree with you, the "favorite text editor" is annoying [12:12] agreed it would be nice for them to have the pastable command [12:13] because someone might not know about kate or kwrite, let alone nano, vi, vim and so forth [12:13] imbrandon: Yes. abattoir had a lot more specific stuff to say...I wasn't really prepared to speak on this subject :) [12:13] ok...i think this has been beaten enough ;) [12:13] Hawkwind: a general replace gksu/kdesu does not seem very difficult for me as a bystander [12:13] KST dudes: is there anything you need from us? [12:13] imbrandon: fixing the docs/wikis is just one of the things we'd like to do. another is to coordinate this little bits and pieces of information and make sure that they blend together as a whole [12:13] toma: its not [12:13] Riddell: At the moment I can't think of anything. I'll let abattoir speak to you or others about that when he's here next [12:14] Jucato, sure and i said i 100% agree, go for it, i just urged you do it within the teams already established [12:14] Jucato: that requires defining the bases of a support branch in the wiki, since it went to all directions till now [12:14] Hawkwind, Jucato, and abattoir, i would also recommend you talk to Burgwork / Burgundavia, or mdke when you get a chance as well concerning the wiki and documentation... #ubuntu-doc is their hangout [12:15] nixternal: Noted [12:15] added to auto-join :) [12:15] One wish: if browser-identification is 'konqueor' css color should be blue! [12:15] believe me when i say, you open up the can or worms on the wiki though in the channel, prepare to work for 11 days straight ;) [12:15] I'm very happy to see an inititive to ensure community support is as good for kubuntu as it is for ubuntu [12:15] allee: hehe ;) [12:15] or even 40 days and 40 nights ;) [12:15] make sure you work with or within the existing teams and everyone will be happy [12:16] Riddell: +1 [12:16] +1 Riddell [12:16] yes, I agree === nixternal notes that i have been there done that, and stepped on some toes...just trying to make sure others don't step on them sore toes i already did ;) [12:16] +1 Riddell [12:16] and a paragraph for UWN would be cool too [12:16] Riddell: i lost that, my fault there ;( [12:16] +1 nixternal [12:16] Hawkwind: going for ops? [12:17] toma: That is correct [12:17] :) [12:17] that's the next item [12:17] we don't really have a formal procedure for #kubuntu ops, I just do it if it seems sensible [12:17] Hawkwind: any reason you'd like to be an op? [12:17] and anyone have any objections? [12:17] Hawkwind, Jucato have fun, I really apprecaite any work in this direction!! [12:17] Riddell: Let me paste something I have pre-typed [12:17] I am here today for a couple of reasons. One being the Kubuntu Support Team and the other is applying for the Kubuntu op team. Why an op you ask ? I feel I have many things I can bring to the channel and the community. I have listed a few of those things on my wiki page. The main reason I'm applying is because I am active on the channel 10+ hours a day, am very knowledgeable in both Linux and Kubuntu. I get along v [12:17] ery well with all users of the channel, including several of the other ops. My op background consists of being an op for the #Mandrake/#Mandriva channel for 3 years, and the last 1 1/2 years of that was spent being the channels alternate contact. [12:18] allee: Thank you :) [12:18] Riddell, Hawkwind, is arround alot and seems to have a level head in #kubuntu [12:18] BTW, here is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hawkwind and LP page: https://launchpad.net/people/hawkwind [12:18] i like Hawkwind as an op as imbrandon points out he is around alot [12:18] I'm satisfied, I'll do that after the meeting [12:18] Riddell: I object! :P No, i think Hawkwind would make a good op. we really dont have terribly many ops in #kubuntu and most that we do have arent watching anyway, only responding if !ops is called - i know that's all i tend to do, at least [12:19] 10h+ ? [12:19] WHAT! a penguins head wearing a MICROSOFT colored bow tie =/ [12:19] lol [12:19] amazing [12:19] s/gnomefreak/kdefreak/g THERE the first fix to the doc's [12:19] I vote for Hawkwind [12:19] +1 [12:19] lol [12:19] Tonio_: your item [12:19] yes [12:19] i cant someone took it [12:19] Thank you to everyone for the kind words :) [12:19] #kubuntu would be easy compared to #mandriva [12:19] =1, as i cant find the plus button [12:19] haha [12:19] +ooh, there we go [12:19] +1 [12:19] lol [12:19] we have a few critical bugs that we need to focus on before release [12:19] claydoh: Hah, agreed [12:20] it's still dark in here, i cant see the keyboard! [12:20] I think it would be nice to dedicate a wikipage to them [12:20] Tonio_, agreed === gnomefreak just fixed a bug in page nixternal gave us [12:20] bouncing k icon at startup [12:20] here is an example of what I call critical : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/56377 [12:20] Malone bug 56377 in kdebase "klipper crashes on login " [Unknown,Unconfirmed] [12:20] yes, I do miss klipper [12:20] Tonio_: yes, i said it before, i love lists which i could do when i'm bored. [12:20] that will touch any new profile and any new installation when edgy is out.... [12:21] Tonio_: in theory we should be able to use launchpad to sort important bugs, but I agree a wiki page is probably easier [12:21] and I'm pretty sure we can find a very consistent list of things like this one [12:21] i thought that was fixed removing ~/.klipperrc if it was changed from default as a workaround [12:21] (copy & paste does not work, with or without klipper) [12:21] Tonio_ / Riddell and would give us a place to colab on pre-release/must fix bugs over the next weeks as we are a sparse team all in diffrent timezones ;) [12:21] Riddell: yes launchpad is pretty nice during the dev cycle, but not very convenient to focus on the essential stuff just before the release [12:22] Tonio_: isn't there a priority field? [12:22] the wikipage should link and invite to use launchpad, it should just be there to help defining the priorities [12:22] Tonio_: so please set up KubuntuEdgyCriticalBugs and we'll get cracking on them [12:22] toma: yes there is, but what is important is not always critical [12:22] Tonio_: would be best to let launchpad generate the list [12:22] that klipper issue is the perfect example [12:22] it is not critical, since it doesn't break kubuntu, but we cannot think of releasing with this bug [12:23] Riddell: will do with the help of Hobbsee, for her ug status knowledge :) [12:23] Hobbsee: can I onsider your help to do that page tomorrow ? [12:23] ug status? === Hobbsee gets off the phone with work again [12:23] heh [12:23] say what? :P [12:23] Riddell: bug status [12:23] Riddell: yes, i have a very high ug status :P === Hobbsee ugs Riddell [12:24] ;) [12:24] :) [12:24] right, universe freeze [12:24] rah !! Hobbsee, I'm sure you understood, so that's fine to me :) [12:24] 28th ? [12:24] only 2.5 weeks to go [12:25] hmm, anyone wants to do a second try at getting digikam(.*)-docs in? === Hobbsee hugs Tonio_. i did. [12:25] I can't think of any important packages that need to be got in, but a revu triage would be nice [12:25] toma: what happened with it? [12:25] toma: if the licence stuff is still wrong, you wont... [12:25] we need to have some of use k guys ( and gals ) go though revu on revu day [12:25] oh, no FDL text [12:25] Riddell: that's what they plan to do today. or this day a month ago, take your pick. :P [12:26] allee: you released a new version, right? [12:26] imbrandon: revu day today, check MOTU mailing list [12:26] Hobbsee, its still the 7th for me ;) [12:26] afaik a sync with debian should solve it [12:26] Tonio_: add the wiki link to the topic too [12:26] Hobbsee: yes, sure [12:26] toma: great, that sounds easy then [12:26] imbrandon: catch up with the times. [12:27] Hobbsee, -motu topic says the 8th [12:27] so i guess we get 2 revu days [12:27] imbrandon: indeed. in my timezone, it is the 8th [12:27] Hobbsee: your agenda item [12:27] ahh [12:27] wha? [12:27] Universe freeze on the 26th or so. Make sure all updated versions are in by then. If they're not, then you'll need to file freeze exception requests, etc. === allee tries to remember ... [12:28] apoligies excepted ;-) [12:28] accepted [12:28] as a FYI [12:28] Hobbsee: "Any other random agenda points from Hobbsee. " [12:28] while i have the floor [12:28] -1 on the power button calls the logout button, idea [12:28] why ? [12:28] Hobbsee: why? [12:28] but we should make sure that kde gets saved - maybe call logout kde, then shut down? [12:28] kind of liked that idea [12:28] yes, FDL stuff is fixed upstream -0.8.2-r1.tar.gz [12:29] what happens when you try to use the shutdown button to shut down the computer, ie when i'ts hardlocked? [12:29] allee: k [12:29] Hobbsee, you hold the button 4 seconds and the hardware takes care of it [12:29] Hobbsee: on most computers you hold it down for 5 seconds and it shuts down === Raven301 [n=raven301@Toronto-HSE-ppp3713414.sympatico.ca] has joined #Ubuntu-Meeting [12:29] Riddell: so that wouldnt change? [12:29] yea its part of the ATX spec [12:29] oh right [12:29] Hobbsee, no thats hardware [12:29] Hobbsee: no [12:29] (how inconvenient is the power button to hit anyway?) [12:30] anyway, point. [12:30] Hobbsee: ati standard [12:30] toma: and -r1 pkgs are in sid [12:30] Tonio_, atx ;) [12:30] allee: are you going to try a new merge into edgy? [12:30] havent thought of any random agenda points yet, but for all the MOTU's, there's a REVU day on the 8th. lets attack those packages, some of them have been there for ages. [12:30] imbrandon: hu, OMG I said ati, sorry :) [12:30] hehe [12:30] imbrandon: should change my graphic card [12:31] I'll try and do some REVUing tomorrow === foo [n=foo@unaffiliated/foo] has joined #Ubuntu-Meeting [12:31] so yes Hobbsee every computer that is less that 5 to 6 years handles this === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-365-158.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === foo joins to eye Hawkwind [12:31] I do have a suggestion to make once all the agenda points are covered that wasn't on the agenda [12:31] cool [12:31] Riddell: ping me eventually, I can spend time on this too [12:31] toma: no. I'm still covered with work to do any OSS stuff (beside FAI for dapper, that I need for work right now ;) [12:31] nothing else, currently [12:31] "Translations are currently broken", not sure who's agenda item that is but it should go on Tonio_'s bugs page === Hobbsee didnt have any great bursts of brilliance overnight [12:32] kde.pot isn't being handled right somewhere [12:32] Riddell: that my item [12:32] Riddell: are there translations for kde 3.5.4 for dapper available? [12:32] toma: no [12:32] Riddell: I already looked at that and that's not kubunt specific bug [12:32] toma: well, kde-i18n packages should be on kubuntu.org [12:32] that exactly the same issue we had during the dapper dev cycle... [12:32] only half of the translation appears [12:33] Tonio_: it's the stock strings from kde.pot that are the problem, I'll look into it [12:33] Riddell: shouldn't we ping pitty instead ? [12:33] Riddell: okay [12:33] Tonio_: might be my fault, might be rosetta's fault or might be pitti's fault, I don't know yet [12:33] probably mine :) === Tonio_ notes Riddell is a modest person :) [12:33] autoscroll in konqueror [12:33] Riddell: did you talk to rosetta people about the kde translators concerns? [12:34] toma: no, I need to do that too [12:34] Riddell: yes that's another of my items [12:34] Riddell: ok, np [12:34] toma: I'll do that tomorrow [12:34] great [12:34] toma and I have patched konqueror to have that function rocking as much as in firefox [12:34] the patch in now in kdelibs, which is a good point [12:34] Tonio_: I'm not a fan of autoscroll mostly because I like middle click to paste URL [12:34] firefox provides this function by default [12:34] Riddell: Jucato: has an agenda item, too [12:34] and the konqueror implementation has bugs like pasting into textareas doesn'twork [12:35] Riddell: middle click to paste still works if you middle click on the tab bar [12:35] yes, that is my problem with it as well [12:35] sounds like a good compromise to me [12:35] not for the textarea's [12:35] ah, compromise [12:35] thats much harder and requires moving mouse [12:35] the point is that a very few kubuntu users are using konqueror in the first place because they prefer the features of firefox [12:36] sorry, what cna you still paste with this scenerio? [12:36] we should focus on making konqueror working the way Joe prefers [12:36] ;) [12:36] Tonio_: or just add/replace it with firefox. *ducks* === Jucato wonders about middle-clicking on tabs to close [12:36] Riddell: there is no pb in pasting urls if you middle click on the tab bar, which sounds logic and makes sense to me [12:36] Tonio_: noone here misses it (but we all have scroll wheels) [12:36] Tonio_: it's still broken with pasteing in textareas, which is a killer for me [12:37] middle clicking the tab bar in ff closes the tab [12:37] Riddell: hum...... let me test [12:37] middle click to close sounds evil [12:37] Tonio_: that is the reason i turned it off too [12:37] heh [12:37] especially if you're used to pasting URLs [12:37] Riddell, it is, very evil [12:37] Riddell: pasting in textareas works here [12:38] middle click pastes correctly [12:38] Tonio_: not with middle mouse button, from the konsole or example [12:38] toma: just done it and it is okay === Jucato notes that it works here too [12:38] hmff [12:38] how do I turn on scroll agian? === Hobbsee hugs middle-click-to-close in firefox [12:38] Riddell: middle click? [12:39] if that works, i dont have a problem with it === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:39] hi [12:39] lo pitti [12:39] Riddell: konq settings, web management blabla and uncheck "use middle click to........" [12:39] pitti, hi [12:39] not sure of the english but it's like that [12:39] in Web Behaviour, uncheck "Middle click opens URL in selection" [12:39] nope, definately still broken for textareas for me === Hobbsee adds to the mental agenda in her head. i have a question for imbrandon. [12:40] it does paste, but it also scrolls too [12:40] Riddell: humf... [12:40] Riddell: ah yes I can see this too [12:40] Hobbsee, PM me or i'll forget [12:40] Tonio_: so fix this and I'll consider it :) [12:40] Riddell: hehe [12:40] Riddell: tsss [12:40] :) [12:40] ok, any other items [12:40] toma: ready to help again on that point ? [12:40] Riddell: that means it's hard to paste when the page is scrolling randomly? :P === toma ducks [12:41] Riddell: sure, a status update on imbrandon's plans for an integrated firefox [12:41] toma: I don't feel capable to do this on my own :) === unix_infidel [n=blue@unaffiliated/unixinfidel/x-8383745] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:41] Tonio_: same here ;-) [12:41] Tonio_: but we can have a look, but not very soon ;-( [12:41] Riddell: ready to help ? :) [12:41] Hobbsee, i havent touched it yet, i was / am waiting on iwj to "finish" [12:41] imbrandon: ah okay === Hobbsee points at Hawkwind [12:42] yes, Hawkwind had an item [12:42] Hawkwind? [12:42] guess he fell asleep [12:42] any other items? [12:42] :) [12:43] Riddell, whats for breakfast ? j/k [12:43] I'm here now [12:43] it was about the 10th anniversary of KDE [12:43] Riddell: if not, Jucato can step in and do it [12:43] mmm...breakfast [12:43] oh there he is [12:43] Since this year is the 10th anniversary of KDE....can we do something special within Edgy to commemorate it ? [12:43] good idea [12:43] KDE 4 packages aren't special enough? [12:43] Could be something graphical or most anything. Just think it would be a neat idea to let it be known to the user how long it's been around [12:43] hehe [12:43] Riddell: well.... [12:44] Hawkwind: more concrete ideas would be useful [12:44] one of the example docs - or a little movie... [12:44] I agree something would be cool, but I don't know what [12:44] can we add a special desktop for that day [12:44] toma: nice [12:44] how close are we for cd space, by the way? on a related note? [12:45] ttread: nice but example-docs already takes up too much space [12:45] Riddell: I was thinking of some kind of graphic during start up or something. Or maybe a 10th anniversary screen when konqueror starts [12:45] ping kwwii to ask about the graphics [12:45] Hobbsee: too close [12:45] Riddell: hum, hard to do for people using their own wallpaper :) [12:45] ok [12:45] Hobbsee, last i checked without removing anything we had about 38mb free [12:45] Riddell: well, yeah, but how much do we have? [12:45] that will cut out most videos [12:45] right === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:45] @schedule Montreal [12:45] Schedule for America/Montreal: Current meeting: Kubuntu | 07 Sep 19:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Sep 16:00: Technical Board | 13 Sep 16:00: Edubuntu | 14 Sep 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 Sep 08:00: Community Council [12:45] imbrandon: less on other arches [12:45] @schedule America/Montreal [12:45] Schedule for America/Montreal: Current meeting: Kubuntu | 07 Sep 19:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Sep 16:00: Technical Board | 13 Sep 16:00: Edubuntu | 14 Sep 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 Sep 08:00: Community Council [12:45] hi sfllaw, welcome to the kubuntu meeting [12:45] Riddell, true i only checked i386 [12:45] I guess graphics would be our only option then? [12:45] Hah [12:45] sfllaw: we're in a meeting :P [12:46] kwwii: do you know if there's any plans for 10th anniversary graphics? === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1A02.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:47] Hobbsee: well if you have video's, we can add a main menu item on all apps to point to that on that day [12:47] i think a nice graphic in the "about" box in the edgy release would be simple and small and still seen [12:47] Sorry. [12:47] Riddell, ^ [12:47] Riddell: nope, until now, there is none [12:47] Riddell: please wrap up within the next 10m so we can get started with the dev meeting [12:47] mdz: we're about there [12:48] imbrandon: +1 on that idea. It doesn't have to be big at all [12:48] mdz: we're taking over your dev meeting, didnt you know? :P [12:48] toma: right, yeah. i dont === givr1 [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-73-21.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:48] someone could contact basse for a konqi graphic/video [12:48] topic === ausimage [n=owner@pool-141-149-239-130.syr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:49] Riddell: that is a very good idea [12:49] in fact, I think that someone has already done that [12:49] torsten [12:49] clever tackat [12:49] now that you mention it :-) [12:49] one of the older Konqi videos? [12:49] no, to make a new one [12:49] ah [12:49] I'll talk to tackat and see where that is [12:50] ok ....... moving on ? ( sorry i'm hungery for food ) [12:50] imbrandon: I'm done [12:50] hehe [12:50] any other business? === toma too === Jucato needs sleep... [12:50] thanks for coming all [12:50] Jucato: heh, i'll bet [12:50] next meeting? [12:50] next meeting time? [12:50] it's not really fair on Jucato having a 5am meeting. [12:51] and i'm pretty useless, even at 7am [12:51] heh it's ok. I'll get used to it :) [12:51] heck Im useless and its 7 PM :) [12:51] heh [12:51] i'm fine on friday at 11pm ;-) [12:51] see most of you later...see those in the developer meeting in a few minutes === Hobbsee pokes Riddell to see if he saw the last bit [12:52] yep, suggestions of meeting times welcome [12:53] nite all [12:53] toma: nite ;) [12:53] what about a early morning GMT meeting? [12:53] toma: just a second plz :) [12:53] argh [12:53] early gmt time is fine by me, we wont get everyone every meeting ;) [12:54] we should rotate [12:54] lets discuss it in #kubuntu-devel but perhaps it's more of an issue nwo than it was [12:54] sweet , carry any spillover to #kubuntu-devel /me is afk to get some food [12:54] we need to make sure we have quroum, at least === Hobbsee wonders when the KCC renewal comes up. === claydoh leaves to start cooking late dinner... [12:55] hehe, at least I am early for the next meeting :-) === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === fschoep [n=franksch@adsl-dc-35cb8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:55] hi fschoep === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-247-107.midmaine.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["see] [12:55] hi seb128, hi fschoep [12:55] Hi kwwii, everyone [12:55] hey dholbach [12:55] Hi dholbach === jono [n=jono@88-107-5-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:57] howdy doody [12:57] jono: evening [12:57] hey all [12:57] hey mdz :) [12:57] hey Hobbsee [12:57] Morning, jono. [12:57] hi jono. you didnt make it to kubuntu meeting? === fabo [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Hobbsee merges wireshark in the background [12:58] hey Fujitsu [12:58] Hobbsee, yeah I was out tonight [12:58] jono: ah okay. shame. you could do what i did - come in over half way thru or something :P [12:58] Hobbsee, I only just got in :) [12:58] Hobbsee, good meeting ? === pitti waves to mdz [12:59] jono: didnt make most of it, and the part i was there for i wasnt terribly awake :P [12:59] hehe === Hobbsee waves to pitti [12:59] missing infinity, iwj and BenC [12:59] hello === JoseStefan [i=Stealth@92sdl30m49.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 12 Sep 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 13 Sep 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 14 Sep 07:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 19 Sep 12:00 UTC: Community Council [01:00] good evening, folks [01:00] Evening. [01:00] How was Black Rock? [01:00] good evening everyone [01:00] my holidays were excellent, but I'm back in full-on work mode now === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:00] we have a lot of ground to cover, with feature freeze upon us === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.223.196] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [01:01] so we'll dive right in [01:01] infinity: welcome [01:01] pitti: would you start us off? === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:01] Hi. Sorry I'm a bit late ... [01:02] sure [01:02] iwj: we're just getting started [01:02] Done: [01:02] * started to catch up with security updates after the two weeks break: PHP, bind, kernel (just coordination), mailman, libxfont/X.org, imagemagick, openssl, MySQL [01:02] * apport: implemented bug pattern matching backend and GUI (so that apport-gtk directs you to an already existing bug rather than asking you to file a new one) [01:02] * SoC reviews and reports [01:02] * merged cupsys and updated to 1.2.3; not yet uploaded since I have to fix a regression [01:02] Todo: [01:02] * more security updates (arrgh) [01:02] * catch up on my overflowing bugs inbox [01:02] * finish cups 1.2.3 and upload [01:02] * fix high-profile langpack-o-matic bug and prepare new packages (BLOCKED: *-updates embargo; mdz?) [01:02] * ensure that php and mysql get new upstream versions (infinity or I) [01:02] * finish gnutls12->13 transition [01:02] * start bug fixing [01:02] spec status: [01:02] * apt-get-debug-symbols (Deployment): distro side is ready, needs buildd infrastructure work to get .ddebs to people.u.c (to be implemented next week with infinity) [01:02] pitti: how much remains in the queue for security? [01:02] * automated-problem-reports (Implemented): does not yet catch all corner cases, this requires an updated kernel implementation which will (most likely) be deferred to Edgy+1; but basic functionality is working apart from some bugs [01:02] * gcc-ssp (Implemented): Distro side changes are implemented for a long time; still need to check current build coverage, and perhaps do no-change uploads to important packages [01:02] * auto-unmount-notifications (Implemented): works a bit too good (also for readonly devices), but I consider that a bug === pitti is happy to be the first one the first time === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:03] mdz: the kernel still needs to be pushed out, some embargoed stuff that is lifted next week, and about 5 public issues [01:03] mdz: (I don't have the exact number in my head, I just work through them case by case) [01:03] pitti: looks like you are in good shape for feature freeze, congrats [01:03] mdz: will you say some words about the *-update embargo? [01:03] mdz: thanks :) [01:04] we're in the process of revising and formalizing the process for updates to stable releases [01:04]