=== nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:e7:ad:d1c7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:e7:ad:d1c7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3_ [n=marc@montreal.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu wonders if anybody can REVU his package on REVU, as it is REVU Day :) === ausimage [n=owner@pool-141-149-239-130.syr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ausimage [n=owner@pool-141-149-239-130.syr.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:33] Fujitsu: not in all timezones :P [12:33] True, but in a few :P === LaserJock doesn't even know what day it is most of the time [12:37] LaserJock: it's REVU day. get with it. :P [12:37] LaserJock: you should check out kclock sometimes [12:38] -s [12:45] heya Hobbsee [12:45] :) [12:46] hey Arbiter === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1A02.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter needs to get some coffee :P === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] There is a bashism in unison: [01:31] DST=${DST/unison/unison} [01:31] What's a non-bashist way to do that? [01:32] That doesn't even make any sense to my dumb arse [01:33] http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/refcards.html#AEN19003 [01:35] Thanks, crimsun. I was looking for something like that :) [01:38] It looks in the string DST for the string unison, and replaces the first occurence with unison!? What the... [01:40] Hmm [01:41] Ah. [01:41] The second unison can in fact differ... [01:41] But how do I POSIXise that statement? === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] Fujitsu: I'm sorry, I don't know :-( [01:47] Where can I obtain an old version of a Debian package that's no longer in the archives? === bddebian hasn't been able to do crap the last few days :-( [01:49] :( [01:56] Heya LaserJock [01:56] hi bddebian === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host239-234.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@pal-178-097.itap.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] hrm. [02:13] Nobody maintains libhoard [02:15] bluefoxicy: take it over then? [02:16] Hobbsee: I mean the package, not the code; but yeah. The problem is both our packaged version and one I bulit from newest source cause EVERYTHING to segfault re bug #59441 [02:16] Malone bug 59441 in libhoard "libhoard segfaults everything" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59441 [02:16] fun [02:16] i meant the package of it, actually [02:17] wmtop had a Xorg 7-related change in Dapper. Debian has no such change, but it builds and runs fine in Edgy anyway. Sync it? [02:17] ok [02:17] Hobbsee: it's still busted and the mainline devs say it works for them :< [02:18] I was going to prod the maintainer :/ Ah well. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] hey Burgundavia [02:18] Hi Burgundavia. [02:19] hey Hobbsee [02:19] hey Fujitsu [02:19] Burgundavia: i want to pick your brains later [02:19] sure [02:19] :) === Hobbsee gets out her axe [02:20] braaaains o.o [02:20] Can anybody confirm that I should sync wmtop? [02:21] Fujitsu: got debdiffs against each? [02:22] Just an extra dependency on libxext-dev. [02:22] That's the only Ubuntu change. [02:24] OKI. [02:24] I've got to run off to school. === printk [i=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-99-228.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sid [i=emanresu@tor/regular/sid] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pschulz01 [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] And I went to Desktop/Preferences/Screen Resolution, but there is only one choice, 60hz and 640x480 ... I edited xorg.conf and tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart; but with the livecd this does nothing. Anyone know about the dapper live cd?(the main installer disc) [02:59] With the Dapper live cd for x86, I have an Ati 9100, and it defaulted to 640x480 resolution, and I can't even see the whole installer window. [03:01] sid: you should probably ask #ubuntu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486FC7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] sweet, hoard upstream is looking into it. === Bazzi_ [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [jb] [n=juliano@c-71-204-5-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] ajmitch, ping [04:21] ajmitch, un-ping [04:21] heh === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@21.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] heya everybody [04:53] moins ( again ) [04:53] heh [04:54] Heya Toadstool [04:55] hi bddebian [04:55] and imbrandon ;) [04:56] how are you all? [04:56] great , a tad bored but good ;) === imbrandon in his elmer fud voice "shhhh, i'm hunting DD's , be very very qwiet" [04:57] hehe [04:57] lol [04:57] what for? [04:58] sigh [04:58] something tells me this should piss me off but eh. [04:58] uh? === bluefoxicy is working with nested levels of rwlocks and mutexes [04:59] Toadstool, an upload for my package that closes a few BTS #'s [04:59] ;) [04:59] imbrandon: you should poke every maintainer then [04:59] i am the maintainer ;) [05:00] just not a DD so i cant upload [05:00] ah! [05:00] ;) [05:00] yeah i know that too [05:00] i wish i could keep on working on edgy/my packages :( [05:01] why not ? [05:01] i don't have a permanent internet connection here [05:01] ahh [05:01] i've been in San Diego/the United States for only 6 days [05:01] ahh [05:02] and i work all the week [05:02] hope i'll figure out something saturday === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] ok, time to detach my screen :( [05:04] cya === theCore_ [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === administrator [i=jadaz87@unaffiliated/joejaxx] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:34] who knows what's up with compiz-kde? the compiz source package no longer builds it, but there's a package on the repo that's uninstallable due to a dep on an older compiz. [05:40] morning all! :D [05:40] Heya zakame === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sid [i=emanresu@tor/regular/sid] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [06:55] crimsun: ping (re: moodle) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] hello MOTU world === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] Burgundavia: pong [08:17] crimsun: moodle work. Just filed a pair of new bugs today [08:18] I'm not tracking moodle atm; what are the bug #s? [08:19] crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/moodle/+bugs [08:20] 47812 is likely a non-issue [08:20] but neither the dapper-updates or the edgy version instlal correctly [08:20] -updates? [08:21] the version that I worked on is in -security [08:21] crimsun, wmtop had a dependency on libxext-dev added in Dapper, but the new Debian version (without it) builds and runs fine in Edgy. Should I request a sync? [08:21] and I worked on it for it a week over discussion with pitti trying to figure out how to best unbreak the default [08:21] crimsun: right, that one [08:22] what was the highlighted httpd choice in debconf? [08:22] apache2 [08:22] (should have been apache2) [08:22] good, and it still gives that error? [08:22] because I tested from a fresh install before pushing the update [08:23] the dapper-security bug is not mine. I need to test that tomorrow nigth [08:23] edgy one is mine: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/moodle/+bug/59473 [08:23] Malone bug 59473 in moodle "Fails to install" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [08:26] I didn't touch the pg* stuff because that's noted in README.Debian under "QUICKSTART/DATABASE CREATION" [08:27] both 51813 and 59473 fall under that [08:27] I'm not sure if it's critical enough to warrant bumping into -updates, though [08:28] and I'll go ahead and close 47812, because that _is_ fixed [08:28] if another MOTU wants to tackle 59472, feel free [08:30] Or could a non-MOTU tackle it, and give a patch to a MOTU to upload? [08:31] for edgy, sure === Fujitsu fixes it for Edgy. === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-111-111.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:42] There we go, it works... [08:42] ... [08:43] brandon@birdofprey:~$ glxinfo|grep render [08:43] direct rendering: Yes [08:43] OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150 LE/PCI/SSE2 [08:43] GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, [08:43] brandon@birdofprey:~$ [08:43] grr [08:43] ? [08:43] wrong window, sorry fellas ( and ladies ) === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] heya Fujitsu, you got off last night before i could tell you, i uploaded a cupple of the merges you had on LP [08:43] brb [08:43] I saw, thanks imbrandon :) [08:46] re [08:46] yw [08:46] man this computer is nice, i should use it more [08:46] specialy now the nvida driver is working ;) [08:48] Now I've made the change that fixes #59472 (a whole one line, of course), do I attach the debdiff to the bug? [08:49] would probably be easiest ( i would just uplaod it now but i am not on my build box and i dont have my gpg key on this machine ) === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@dy020128.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu thinks LP's Support Ticket karma is seriously screwed. [08:52] hi guys [08:52] crimsun: thanks [08:53] I've attached a debdiff to #59472. === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] sed -i s/^\-/(unregistered nick)/g [08:55] grr [08:55] i need to really watch what window has focus [08:55] Yeah, you do :P [08:55] bug #59742 [08:56] bug #59743 [08:56] bug #59472 [08:56] Malone bug 59472 in moodle "Installs with php4 instead of php5, which is supported" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59472 === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === welshbyte [n=welshbyt@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust276.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] good morning [09:04] Morning, welshbyte. [09:04] hey Fujitsu === max__ [n=max@dy020034.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas_ [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-111-111.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B142B.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] good morning === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] It's the REVU DAY! [09:59] oh no. i'm not here then === Hobbsee is most certainly *not here* === Hobbsee is most certainly *a figment of everyone's imagination* === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@210.0.212.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] Hobbsee: pfffft [10:01] dholbach: :P === Hobbsee hugs dholbach [10:03] Hey dholbach! [10:03] hi Fujitsu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@CPE-124-178-2-198.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] I've jost got the one package on REVU at the moment, it's been dormant for a month... [10:04] hello Hobbsee-like apparition [10:05] so whats a REVU day then? [10:05] hehe hi welshbyte [10:05] welshbyte: means that the MOTU's, of which i'm not one today, have to get off their lazy butts, and review the packages that have been sitting on REVU for ages. === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.6.129.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:06] ah, yeah i guess that's needed :) [10:06] hi [10:06] hey Kagou [10:06] hi Kagou === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee === Hobbsee tickles Mithrandir [10:08] just the person i was going to bug... [10:08] Mithrandir: are you planning on merging sane-backend anytime soon? === Hobbsee stomps on Mithrandir's feet as well [10:09] Fujitsu: only a month? [10:09] Fujitsu: have you asked people to review it? [10:09] Hobbsee: any reason to? We're past FF now. === Zdra [n=zdra@24.26-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] Hobbsee: what's this thing about you trying to destroy my poor feet? [10:10] Mithrandir: it's a new debian version. is that itself included to get a UVF extension? [10:10] Mithrandir: to get rid of https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/56317 [10:10] Malone bug 56317 in sane-backends "libsane.rules: Line 540 too long, can not be parsed by udev" [Unknown,Fix released] [10:11] I thought I fixed that [10:11] the only other debian change is a few grammatical fixes in the README.Debian [10:11] Mithrandir: maybe in debian. i just checked, i still get it [10:12] Hobbsee: I certainly didn't upload it to Debian, now. [10:12] s/now/no/ [10:12] Mithrandir: hmmm. right. but did you upload it to ubuntu though? :P [10:14] er, wait. supposedly you did, but it hasnt worked. [10:14] Hobbsee, no, I haven't. I've been busy doing other stuff lately. [10:15] Mithrandir: dont you want your feet destroyed? [10:15] Hobbsee: no, I like my feet whole and well-working, thankyouverymuch [10:15] and because stomping on people's feet is fun. as is poking them in the ribs, and tickling them. [10:15] heh [10:18] Mithrandir: looks to me like you have patched it, but for some reason it hasnt actually worked. *shrugs* [10:18] i had someone else getting the same error yesterday, so it's not my system === Fujitsu points the REVU Day-following MOTUs to http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2868 [10:25] Fujitsu: didnt i comment on this before? [10:25] Doesn't look like it... [10:26] i thought i replied in here [10:26] I never saw any comment. [10:26] And there isn't one there now. [10:27] one APPROVED PACKAGE [10:27] glest-data - now only glest needs some tiny fixes and they can both be uploaded :) === Fujitsu congratulates dholbach. [10:28] it's not my package ;) [10:28] i'll look at convertall in a sec [10:28] I know it's not yours, but you approved it :) [10:29] is it like, hugs-for-reviews? [10:30] hehe :) === dholbach reviewed 3 packages already! YAY :) [10:30] I know we'll get some good stuff in today [10:31] Fujitsu: there you go. there are plenty of comments there now [10:31] dholbach: can you check my comments for sanity please? === Hobbsee hates reviewing [10:31] oh, wait, if you're going to review it, you can tell me what i missed [10:32] I've got to go now... [10:32] later Fujitsu [10:33] imbrandon! get reviewing :P [10:33] Hobbsee, i am, well i'm downloading kde4 snapshot atm, then i am [10:33] btw whos pete savage on irc ? [10:33] imbrandon: nice. [10:33] check on lp, i guess [10:34] Hobbsee, http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/09/08/kde4-krash-debs-here-for-kubuntu/ === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] imbrandon: you should learn how to spell favourite at some point. [10:34] heh [10:35] they're the same as the ones on kubuntu.org? [10:35] its a link to kubuntu.org ;) [10:35] ah === imbrandon kinda liked the " ..... and have been known to cause the people in your neighborhood to explode spontaneously while doing the Macarena. ..... " [10:38] hehehe yeah [10:45] Hobbsee: , Fujitsu: added some comments [10:45] dholbach: right, yep [10:46] dholbach: why no shlibs? [10:46] it's pure python [10:46] ah [10:46] there are no generated depends from shlibs [10:46] right === imbrandon logs into REVU [10:56] how many we got participating in REVU day so far ? hehe === Tonio_ [n=tonio@56.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] sistpoty and bddebian do good work in reviewing, gloubiboulga too === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] hey Gloubiboulga [11:05] was just talking about you :) [11:05] moins Gloubiboulga [11:05] hello! [11:06] dholbach, oh, what did I break? ;) [11:06] "sistpoty and bddebian do good work in reviewing, gloubiboulga too" [11:06] Gloubiboulga "has done" some work [11:07] I've been quite inactive on REVU lately [11:10] i was never active on it, so can keep it that way :P [11:10] never as a reviewer, anyway :P === StevenK has never even logged into REVU === squell [n=scott@host86-132-221-69.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grexk_ is now known as grexk_away === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:50] hello everyone [11:50] hi phanatic [11:50] hey Hobbsee [11:50] StevenK: perhaps you should rectify that [11:50] i'm stuck with a package [11:50] created a skeleton with dh_make [11:51] adjusted everything [11:51] Hobbsee: Why? :-P [11:51] and when i try to build the package, it doesn't get to the configure stage, it wants to compile it right away [11:51] StevenK: so you can review stuff. [11:52] phanatic: dpkg-buildpackage calls debian/rules build, you need to make the build target depend on configure if you want to run configure first [11:53] azeem: it does depend on configure. i have another package with the same debian/rules, and after clean, it configures... [11:54] phanatic: is configure declared PHONY? [11:55] azeem: it's not. but it's the same with the working debian/rules [11:55] does the working debian/rules have a `configure' script as well? Check the time stamps. === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] azeem: they are both mono apps [11:56] azeem: they both have configure [11:57] azeem: they both have the same debian/rules structure (the working one has patches tho, but that shouldn't be the trick) [11:57] do you have a configure-stamp target? [11:58] azeem: i'll upload both debian/rules files okay? [11:58] sure [12:00] azeem: http://phanatic.hu/ubuntu/ [12:02] check whether configure has been changed/created more recently than config.status === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@dy020128.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] Hobbsee, do konqueror plugins need the .la files to run? [12:02] Gloubiboulga: no idea, sorry === Hobbsee doesnt use konq. [12:02] much [12:02] azeem: ls -l gives the same date/time [12:03] phanatic: that could be a problem then [12:03] depends on sub-second timestamps [12:03] Hobbsee, no problem [12:03] phanatic: run stat on them [12:04] azeem: configure is 2secs older than config.status [12:04] azeem: modification timestamp [12:04] for both packages? [12:06] azeem: no, that's for the package which doesn't build [12:07] does it have config.status in the tarball? [12:07] azeem: yes [12:07] hrm [12:07] it does [12:07] I don't think that is kosher [12:07] shouldn't be there? [12:07] yeah, the other pkg's config.status is dated for today (last build) [12:08] just rm'ing it should do the trick? [12:08] maybe [12:08] try to unpack the source package somewhere else and build again [12:08] and see whether that works [12:09] build the package you mean? or just compile the application? [12:09] the former [12:12] doesn't work [12:12] but if i rm config.status, it builds fine with configure === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] then you will need to remove config.status in the clean rule, or touch configure in the clean rule, or tell upstream to stop shipping config.status in the tarball === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] azeem: make distclean removes config.status, but for the first time run, it fails (no rule to make target distclean) [12:18] because there is no Makefile yet [12:18] exactly [12:18] so i should put a 'rm -f config.status' into the debian/rules clean target right? [12:20] that would be a possible solution IMHO, yes === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] oooqs2-kde ready for upload! === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-43-179.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] another question: there is a source package which is currently in universe, written in c++, but upstream has continued the development in c#, and released the application with the same name and a higher version number. shall i create a different source package for the new application, or stay with the current name? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@56.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp159-93.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] Can somebody please take a look and confirm/reject bug 59171 ? [12:49] Malone bug 59171 in deal "Please sync deal 3.0.8-4 from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59171 [12:51] neutrinomass: keybuk should do it today [12:54] sladen: OK, thanks - I'm not a MOTU so I was actually asking for somebody to ACK it ... [12:55] neutrinomass: done. [12:55] neutrinomass: i've listed my complaints on that bug, too. [12:57] Hobbsee: Thanks, I missed that part (I couldn't find the e-mail describing the process at the time) :-) [12:57] neutrinomass: if you get stuck, you go to my LP team, and subscribe the team that i'm the leader of :P [12:58] yay, my karma cracked the 600K mark. [12:59] Try support requests Hobbsee ;) .... I cracked the 2 M mark overnight (they added karma for them, but they added *huge* amounts of karma for simple comments) [12:59] neutrinomass: heh. true that [01:00] what's more impressive is that 600K karma is due to bugwork only. [01:03] crimsun: whine. === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng hugs Hobbsee (wireshark) [01:10] tseng: :) === Hobbsee hugs tseng back [01:10] tseng: why so happy about it? [01:10] i need it [01:10] for work [01:10] tseng is just need need need :P [01:11] I'm needy, its true [01:11] speaking of work, i should go [01:12] slomo, ping? [01:14] tseng: ahh [01:15] crimsun: ping, when you come back. === Hobbsee glares at geser. === zakame stares at Hobbsee === welshbyte goes cross eyed [01:19] he's requesting a sync of a package that doesnt even build. it hasnt a while ago, because i tried it a while ago, so got suspicious. [01:19] it fails with build deps. === Hobbsee will whine at crimsun for something else, later :) [01:20] then i will have finished my whining. temporarily :P === gomek [n=gomek@blacksburg-bsr1-69-170-34-188.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] Anyone here have much experience with customizing the ubuntu install cds? [01:24] Arbiter: pong [01:25] Probably a better question to ask would be whether anyone is a wake, hehe... [01:27] slomo, there are few issues with gnucash [01:28] which is maintained by you, irrc [01:28] *iirc [01:28] nope, i merged the last debian version and did a rebuild for new dbus... but nothing more [01:28] i don't even use it :) [01:28] mh [01:28] but what's wrong with it? [01:29] mh wait === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-42-86.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] *** glibc detected *** gnucash: double free or corruption (out): 0x086ef9b0 *** [01:30] i'm compiling gnucash 2.0.1 to see if it resolves the problem === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] slomo, mh [01:31] nice... tell upstream to fix this :) [01:31] and [01:31] slomo, but if 2.0.1 fix this problem i think you should update the package :) [01:32] will do :) [01:32] yep [01:32] try building the debian package :) [01:32] alredy doing it [01:32] slomo, and there is bug 59404 [01:32] Malone bug 59404 in monodevelop "[UVF Exception] Update monodevelop to monodevelop 0.12 " [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59404 [01:32] :) === gomek [n=gomek@blacksburg-bsr1-69-170-34-188.chvlva.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [01:33] oh yeah, thatt bug is hot [01:33] I'd really appreciate md 0.12 in edgy [01:33] Arbiter: see my comment :P === Arbiter opens launchpad [01:33] great :) === Hobbsee goes off to see if diacanvas2 actually builds. [01:33] ah rofl [01:33] :) [01:33] Bazzi: will come soon ;) but an uvf exception is not needed [01:33] seeing as otherwise, anything that depends on a newer version of it, will fail. grumble. [01:34] Arbiter: or see the mail on ubuntu-devel i sent ;) [01:34] Hobbsee, kcmpureftpd entered in NEW queue :) [01:34] Arbiter: nice. wasnt it there before? [01:34] slomo, hehehe :) [01:34] Hobbsee, i've checked it's status 2 days ago [01:34] slomo: I'm dev'ing a new application based on mono on edgy, so I appreciaty any updates that'll make it into edgy === Arbiter is dealing with perl instead :_P [01:35] Bazzi: what application are you creating? :) and just tell me everything you need fixed [01:35] slomo: an irc client, planned is sort of an xchat-replacement [01:36] Bazzi: oh, talk to mirco bauer then... he already does the same :) [01:37] got any contact information/homepage/specs of him/his application? [01:37] Bazzi, meebey.net [01:37] iirc [01:38] The server at meebey.net is taking too long to respond. :( [01:38] Bazzi: meebey@meebey.net [01:38] is he in early development or has he already started? [01:38] slomo, the irc client -> smuxi? [01:38] Arbiter: yes [01:38] Bazzi: he has already code and it seems to work ;) [01:39] Bazzi: but i didn't test it yet [01:39] :o [01:39] because our group has some crazy specifications and I don't know whether they can be integrated into any existing developments [01:39] slomo, i've used his SmartIrc4Net for building an IRC bot [01:40] but i'm still waiting for DCC support :P [01:40] Bazzi: just look at it and talk to him :) maybe you can join force so i can finally remove xchat :P [01:40] Arbiter: please ping me when gnucash 2.0.1 fixed it, i'll merge and upload then :) [01:41] what the fuck he had almost the same idea we had [01:41] Arbiter, Bazzi: is one of you using tomboy? i need someone for debugging a bug i can't reproduce :) === broonie_ [i=broonie@cassiel.sirena.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] no I'm currently not using it === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp159-93.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:59] slomo, how can i help? [01:59] Fujitsu: ping [01:59] Arbiter: does it crash for you when using as a panel applet (not in the notification area)? [01:59] Arbiter: for example in the context menu or preferences? [01:59] mh wait [02:00] there's a problem [02:00] i have the error message in italian, but translated in english is something like: [02:01] "The panel has found a problem while loading OAFIID:TomboyApplet" [02:01] Arbiter: thanks, at least someone can reproduce it :) [02:01] :) [02:01] Arbiter: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/59057/comments/4 [02:01] Malone bug 59057 in tomboy "Crash on tomboy applet starting" [Untriaged,Confirmed] [02:02] please do this and paste it somewhere, maybe on the bugreport [02:02] and then compare with comment 5 [02:02] "Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for Mono.Unix.Native.Stdlib ---> System.DllNotFoundException: libMonoPosixHelper.so" [02:02] wtf [02:02] (tomboy --panel-applet) [02:03] /usr/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.so exists for you? ;) [02:03] and you're running our packages not something else? [02:03] your packages [02:04] hrm... the file exists? [02:04] arbiter@darkstar:~$ LANG="en" ls -l /usr/lib/libMono* [02:04] ls: /usr/lib/libMono*: No such file or directory [02:04] nice [02:04] libmono0 is installed? [02:05] nope [02:05] wtf [02:05] please install it :) [02:05] hehehe [02:05] dependency issue? :P [02:05] yes [02:11] arbiter@darkstar:~$ LANG="en" ls -l /usr/lib/libMono* [02:11] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 101940 Sep 4 22:55 /usr/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.so [02:11] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6684 Sep 4 22:55 /usr/lib/libMonoSupportW.so [02:11] slomo: depend is missing [02:11] slomo, so [02:11] i've started tomboy --panel-applet [02:11] tseng: yes, obviously thanks to my last upload ;) see #debian-mono [02:11] but adding tomboy to the panel works [02:11] Arbiter: perferences menu? [02:11] slomo: yes I see [02:11] but it creates up to 4-5 icons [02:11] :P [02:11] slomo: i knew it was your fault :) === tseng hugs slomo [02:11] it works [02:11] i have the preferences menu working [02:11] thanks [02:11] ok well they dont use the same code path [02:11] for the applet and the tray [02:11] now, it's time for trying gnucash :D === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] *** glibc detected *** gnucash: double free or corruption (out): 0x086f5fb0 *** [02:11] pffff. [02:11] <-- hates gnucash [02:11] :( [02:11] :P [02:11] slomo, can you reproduce this bug? [02:12] "File" -> "New" -> "New file..." [02:12] i don't use gnucash ;) [02:12] slomo, eh but i'm not sure if this problems appears only to me :P [02:12] *problem* [02:18] hm [02:18] i'll report a bug to upstream then [02:18] thanks :) [02:18] slomo, but the strange thing is that a friend of mine uses gnucash on gentoo (same version) and he doesn't have any problem o.O [02:18] hmm === welshbyte takes a lunch break [02:18] slomo, uhm do you want the output of tomboy --panel-applet? (if useful) [02:18] Arbiter: only if it crashes [02:18] ah, nope then :) [02:18] Arbiter: i read somewhere this morning (before coffee) that someone was uploading a fix for gnucash. [02:18] uhm.. [02:18] because in the current state of the things, gnucash can't be used at all :P [02:19] can't save, can't load.. :P [02:19] bbl === coyctecm [i=coy@re.corded.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.127.101.193] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@host-84-221-81-169.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kr4z [n=kr4z@stjhnf0111w-142163097183.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@56.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] is today the last day for uploading packages to REVU? [03:14] because it's REVU day? [03:16] I can't really be around today and I have packages there :S [03:17] kr4z: no, you can upload at any time [03:18] ah, ok === Tonio_ [n=tonio@56.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] Heya gang [03:33] ello bddebian [03:33] moin bddebian [03:33] Hi welshbyte, Arbiter === geser [n=michael@dialin108180.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] ok [03:43] we have packages on REVU that have no input since january [03:43] i'm going to archive them [03:43] everything that has comments and didn't change since 4 months will be archived [03:43] dholbach: can you gime me my password? [03:43] Goshawk: the page gives it to you [03:43] dholbach: Go Daniel go!! :-) [03:43] dholbach: maybe it happens because people cannot comment them [03:44] dholbach: no it can't [03:44] Goshawk: they could to uploads to correct issues [03:44] it's bugged [03:44] Goshawk: type *something* [03:44] then will it ask you if you want to get your password retrieved [03:44] I wasn't able to get my password from revu either [03:44] dholbach: the REVU should give you a password typing a message to gpg, but there is not a message for me (and many other users) [03:45] it's bugged [03:45] i said that more than a month ago [03:45] Goshawk: relax :) [03:45] i'll test it and if it's really bugged tell the right people [03:45] dholbach: i'll show you [03:46] ah! now it's here [03:46] it's working now [03:46] it's not bogged [03:46] kr4z: try again, now it seems that it's working === kr4z tries [03:47] hmm, now there's a PGP message [03:47] dholbach: on August 20 14:45 it was bugged [03:47] might be, yes [03:47] i'm saying that because i'm the uploader of that package and i did have te possibility to comment until now [03:47] s/did/didn't [03:48] it's all good now, isn't it? [03:48] dholbach: yep it works for me.... thanks guy [03:48] ok good [03:48] another package approved [03:48] and now gloubiboulga is gone [03:49] hm, I put that PGP message in the shell like it said, and it asked for me passphrase, but I don't see a password anywhere [03:49] you typed your passphrase in? [03:49] yeah [03:49] you added "...; echo" to the command above? [03:49] like it said on the page? [03:49] yep [03:50] it just worked for me [03:50] after I put in the phassphrase, it just said this: [03:50] gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG-E key, ID 73E2CF9D, created 2006-08-28 [03:50] "Shane O'Connell " [03:50] None [03:50] shane@dax:~$ [03:51] or should I not have pasted that into the channel? :P [03:51] no that's all fine === dholbach writes a mail about archiving old packages to ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] what does "None" mean? [03:53] that could be a bug [03:53] siretart: any idea about this? ^ [03:54] it usually means that there is either no key or 2 keys matching on the emailadress in the keyring [03:55] oh [03:56] I may be wrong [03:57] kr4z: what was your revu login again? [03:57] kr4z === dholbach hugs siretart [03:57] kr4z: no. it is always an email address === siretart hugs dholbach back :) [03:57] ohh [03:57] I didn't put my email in the login thing [03:57] then do so :) [03:57] haha :) [03:58] ahhhh! [03:58] it works! [03:58] heh [03:58] thanks :P [03:58] :) [03:58] siretart produces bug-free code [03:58] if that only was true [03:58] man, we all know it is [03:59] the whole lostpw.py is an ugly hack, it badly needs to be rewritten === StevenK waves rails (and a Dapper upgrade) at siretart. [03:59] StevenK: rails? [03:59] or perhaps I should configure sudo and use that [04:00] right, we wanted to upgrade tiber [04:00] dholbach: Ruby on Rails [04:00] StevenK: I'm on a move, and I don't have internet access at home [04:00] I don't think the choice of program language is the problem [04:00] I wanted to do it before, but I didn't manage it [04:00] Indeed, I'm just being a bastard. :-) [04:00] you bat's turds! [04:01] jk ;) [04:04] StevenK: woo rails [04:04] Heh, a fan === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:20e:a6ff:fea4:4ab5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas_ [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-43-179.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chesty [n=chesty@unconcerned.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] dholbach: ping [04:42] zul: pong [04:43] dholbach: you can archive the xen stuff in revu obviously we arent using it [04:44] sure [04:44] xen-3.0? [04:44] yep [04:45] done [04:45] merci === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Hobbsee: please e-mail; I'm traveling lately [04:49] crimsun: gotcha. two small points. if you're confirming sync requests, can you please mark them as confirmed? also, you let through a couple that obviously ftbfs. but the guys should have tested them, and i'll yell at them later. [04:50] crimsun: the confirming is just easier for what has and hasnt been done - seeing as you're not the only one committing [04:50] and it's easiest to sort by status, i've found. [04:50] so unless there's an easier way somehow.... [04:50] crimsun: want this log emailed to you? [04:50] geser: ping. [04:50] Hobbsee: hello [04:51] Hobbsee: will do. sure. ftbfs isn't necessarily a stopper; prior to the X.Org resync, we were syncing ones that would have ftbfs. [04:51] crimsun: true that. i would have thought that it building was rather important though. true though === Zdra [n=zdra@174.21-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] geser: oh okay, i must have missed that. i wont yell at you then. [04:54] i've got more of a problem with Fujitsu's sync request. [04:55] which depends on diacanvas2, which fails to build from source anyway. [04:55] so i've got no idea how in hell he would have been able to test that. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:56] geser: sorry for the pinging, and annoyance. [04:56] no problem [04:56] should I put that info in front of the changelog the next time? [04:57] geser: that'd be good :) === Hobbsee looks at this ndiswrapper sync request [04:57] hey what, there are people saying "hey, this would be cool if this were fixed. fix it please" [04:57] that's not the purpose of the group. [04:57] I'm trying to write a patch for gnome-control-center but running dpatch-edit-patch patch patchname` gives me an error. [04:57] rm -f debian/gnome-control-center.1 [04:57] rm -rf /tmp/dpep-ref.uI3696/control-center-2.16.0/debian/build [04:57] make: *** No rule to make target `unpatch'. Stop. === jono [n=jono@88-107-5-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] hey [04:58] hello [04:58] hey jono [04:58] hey jono [04:59] happy REVU day! [04:59] hows the day going? :) [04:59] happy REVU day!! :) [04:59] you guys kick ass in a way that asses are not usually kicked, with class, elegance and sheer force :) === dholbach ACKed a few packages already, archived some others (to clean the page up), wrote two mail about it to the mailing list [04:59] glest.org for examples KICKs ass [04:59] :) [05:00] I am hoping someone has picked up the new gst editor :) [05:00] Yeah, lets get glest in there darn it! :-) [05:00] glest, cool [05:00] jono: you saw revu.tauware.de before? [05:00] I am not familiar with how revu works [05:01] you upload a package, it gets comments, gets reviewed, two motus give you a OK and your package can get included (if it's NEW) [05:01] one MOTU if it's an upload of something that is in the archive already [05:02] (and gnome-translate looks good too) === Hobbsee grumbles at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gftp/+bug/59508 [05:02] Malone bug 59508 in gftp "[Edgy] Sync/Merge request 2.0.18-15 from Debian testing" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [05:03] awesome :) [05:05] we'd need stats on the page [05:05] so who checks out the code for it and adds stats to the page? :) [05:05] It would be nice if we could filter by packages that we have commented on too :-) === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bddebian loves talking to himself [05:13] bddebian: indeed. fix the last bug in -motu [05:13] Hobbsee: ?? === matid [n=matid@195.116.35.7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] bddebian: ie, fix https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gftp/+bug/59508 if you want :P [05:13] Malone bug 59508 in gftp "[Edgy] Sync/Merge request 2.0.18-15 from Debian testing" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [05:14] Hobbsee: Oh, heh === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chantra [n=chantra@ANantes-151-1-86-135.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] anyone know what's up with compiz-kde? the compiz source package no longer builds it, and there's an old package on the repo that won't install due to deps on an old compiz [05:20] trappist, same with compiz-gnome [05:20] (IIRC) [05:20] keepassx looks good too === dholbach test-builds === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] fbond: no, it builds compiz-gnome (just doublechecked) and it's installable from the repo (doublechecked that too) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] *upload* [05:28] trappist, hmm, I remember something similar with my gnome/compiz setup at home ... [05:34] who's the dude that runs the ubuntu-xx.org server? [05:34] smurf? [05:35] most of the xx.org domains are hosted on his server, some others host their own [05:41] thanks jsgotangco === dholbach looks at kildclient === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@121.97.245.149] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach looks at emacs-circe === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach looks at uade === bddebian looks at dholbach === dholbach waves at bddebian === dholbach looks at kbib === bddebian hugs dholbach [06:01] :-) === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-149-213.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] hey lfittl [06:01] happy REVU day! [06:01] hi dholbach :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] hey Gloubiboulga [06:02] Gloubiboulga: nice work on gnome-translate [06:02] Gloubiboulga: just add dh_iconcache to it and go and upload it! :) [06:02] yep, I know, unfortunately Debian BSP Vienna 2006 also starts today, so no reviewing by me today ;) [06:02] lfittl: enjoy it! :) [06:03] I will, thanks :) [06:03] Heya lfittl [06:04] hey bddebian [06:04] lfittl: Did you see the replies on the Scourge forum? :-( === Tonio_ [n=tonio@56.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:05] hi Tonio_: happy REVU day! [06:05] revu day? [06:05] REVU DAY! [06:05] :-) [06:05] dholbach: hehe, okay I'll go there a bit ;) [06:05] yeah REVU Day! [06:05] o.O [06:06] nice === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] dholbach: sorry but I was on my bug day in fact ;) [06:06] dholbach, I'm waiting for the new libtranslate build, and I'll upload gnome-translate [06:06] Gloubiboulga: excellent [06:06] bddebian: no, had absolutly no time for ubuntu this week, will catch up with all the stuff next week [06:06] kbib is in good shape - i approved it too [06:06] dholbach, REVU Day => reviews, reviews, reviews? :D [06:07] Arbiter: exactly - and cleaning the page of old uploads [06:07] oooh good [06:07] review knowit :P [06:07] Arbiter: so packages that have comments, but had no changes for 4 months should just be archived [06:07] the lists are too long already === dholbach looks at aeskulap [06:08] bddebian, ping? [06:08] Arbiter: Yes [06:08] do you remember the packaging issue? [06:08] dh_makeshlibs doesn't solve anything :P [06:09] Arbiter: Ah [06:10] bddebian, i think that those ktagebuch libraries are fine [06:10] Arbiter: Have dholbach take a look :-) [06:10] rofl [06:16] i'll have a look === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirrado [n=helton@200.128.80.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] aeskulap looks good [06:19] looking at ktagebuch === scott_ [n=scott@host86-132-221-69.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:20] brb [06:20] dholbach, for any issue ask me in query [06:20] i'll be back in 45min (i hope) [06:20] test building it [06:20] looks quite ok [06:23] dholbach: it looks that I can't authenticate on revu.... [06:23] looks like my password has changed probably... [06:24] Tonio_: try recovering the password [06:24] recover function doesn't work -> gives me the python source [06:24] ah... this time it worked... [06:24] ouch, that's not fair... [06:26] hm? [06:29] added some comments about ktagebuch to the page === ChaosFan [i=chaos@andariel.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] dholbach: looks like I can't recover [06:30] I don't get anything text to paste to decrypt :) [06:30] Tonio_: what happens if you try to do it? [06:30] dholbach: there is no text to paste, here is the problem === BazziR [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] look like my password is blank... [06:31] weird [06:31] Tonio_: did you write the proper mail adress? [06:32] dholbach: OMG ! I forgot I used that one for revu...... [06:32] :-) === dholbach looks at grasynco [06:32] dholbach: sorry, that's the evidence I don't revu a lot since I forget the registered one ^^ === ChaosFan [i=sithjanu@faui01.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi_ [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach looks at nagcon [06:36] Tonio_: You're fired ;-) [06:37] bddebian: haha :) === sharms [n=sharms@64.244.234.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] how's the REVUing going? [07:10] any other success stories? [07:10] if you approve a package and only need another review, just shout === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] same for people who are here and want their package reviewed === dholbach looks at torsmo === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.219] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] ping lionelp [07:12] ping bddebian [07:12] AnAnt: yo [07:12] bddebian: how's acon ? [07:12] AnAnt: My apologies, I haven't been able to get back to it === JaeSharp [n=JaeSharp@wikia/JSharp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] bddebian: ok [07:14] dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2971 looks good to me [07:14] still tied up @ work ? [07:14] midisport-firmware should be ready to go! [07:14] AnAnt: Yep :( [07:14] if someone wants to take a look: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3062 [07:15] fbond: looking [07:15] nice, let's get some action into REVU day [07:16] Tonio_, thanks! [07:16] Tonio_: looking at knowit === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.228] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] will someone have a look at : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3005 [07:17] cheers revu-ers, keep up the good work! [07:17] who is dh@mailempfang.de ? [07:18] that's me :) [07:18] dholbach: ok, I'm the guy who uploaded elinks [07:18] ah ok [07:18] well yeah [07:18] we can't let main stuff depend on universe stuff [07:18] dh@mailempfang.de Nicholas: any update? [07:18] and build-depends as well [07:19] my laptop died and so work halted, i'll get a new version up within this next week [07:19] dholbach: oh, so the problem is in the build-depends ? [07:19] Spec: rock on === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] AnAnt: yes, at least one lib was in universe [07:19] dholbach: because the elinks package does not depend on Universe stuff, only elinks-full (& maybe elinks-lite) depend on Universe stuff [07:19] dholbach: yes, that's true the build-depends have some universe stuff [07:20] AnAnt: doesn't matter - the source is in main [07:20] dholbach: I didn't know that this is the problem [07:20] source in main can't build-dep / dep on stuff in universe [07:20] :s/the/a [07:20] that's at least one problem [07:20] dholbach: ok, so is there a solution for this ? [07:20] if you feel really strongly about it, you need to file a main inclusion report [07:20] dholbach: what's that ? [07:21] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue [07:21] it needs to get reviewed and it's better if we have a real maintainer for those libraries [07:21] as 'moving to main' means: this is supported stuff [07:22] yeah, I doubt that this is possible [07:22] isn't there another solution ? [07:22] should I create another source package & call it elinks-full for example ? [07:22] that'd mean having the source two times in the archive :/ === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:23] yeah [07:23] well, is there another solution ? [07:23] other than "forget it" of course [07:24] those are all solutions === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] Hello === Mirrado [n=Mirrado@200.128.80.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] those ? === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@19.Red-213-97-18.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] you mean the solution I proposed (ie. having the source twice) is an acceptable solution ? [07:28] i want to upload a new package to universe, howto ? [07:28] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [07:30] hmm, so if i want to upload a package, i become a MOTU ? [07:30] you have to become a MOTU to be able to upload [07:30] not vice versa === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] bersace: what you really want is to upload a package to revu, and have a MOTU upload it to revu (after approving it) [07:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New/Policy [07:33] fbond: i spent all today packaging gnomescan and i just propose to include sources deb === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] Tonio_: knowit is good work (just an added dh_iconcache would be nice) [07:36] fbond: why does it build-dep on udev? [07:36] dholbach: dh_iconcache is now in kde.mk [07:36] Tonio_: it uses debhelper only [07:36] dholbach: oups, I missed that, sorry. you're right [07:36] apart from that it's good to go [07:36] Tonio_: you want to add it and upload it and make a note in the changelog you changed it? just so we can get going? [07:36] :-) [07:37] dholbach: will do ;) [07:37] rock and roll :-) === dholbach hugs Tonio_ [07:37] I suspect the udev b-d is (incorrectly) for /etc/udev/rules.d/, which can be created using dh_installdirs(1) [07:37] it build-dep on things thare in depends as well [07:38] s/thare/that are [07:38] <-- too much REVU today ;) [07:39] scarily enough I autotranslated that to "that are" :) [07:40] didn't even notice til you pointed it out [07:40] haha :-) === dholbach hugs crimsun [07:45] dholbach: knowit uploaded [07:45] Tonio_: super! [07:46] back === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:47] dholbach, * splitting out the libraries would be good. [07:47] why? libktagebuch is required [07:47] and we have only one plugin [07:47] :P [07:48] dholbach, good question, hang on [07:48] Arbiter: it ships libraries itself [07:48] Arbiter: it'd be good if those were in a separate binary package [07:48] dholbach: I forgot to mention I did the change in changelog, but that's not very important since it is initial package [07:49] dholbach, midisport-firmware build-dep's on udev because ./configure fails without it [07:49] Tonio_: that's cool [07:49] fbond: ahhhhhhh ok [07:49] I guess there's probably a configure option to force it to not bother looking [07:49] lemme check [07:49] was knowit uploaded? [07:50] hmm, there is no configure option, but I could just comment that bit ... [07:50] not really good practice, though, IMO [07:50] it's ok, not that bad [07:50] ok, thanks [07:50] dholbach, ktagebuch and ktagebuch-plugins would be ok? [07:50] fbond: midisport-firmware advocated [07:51] has fbond added the README.Debian note regarding usbfs if you've advocated it? [07:52] in your opinion, what should i do with debian-servicemenu and attach-to-email servicemenu? [07:52] Arbiter: yes I uploaded it [07:52] (they don't have any copyright notice nor GPL comments) [07:53] website says "GPL", upstream was asked for such comments but i didn't get any answer [07:53] Tonio_, thanks [07:54] fbond: maybe I missed the udev build dependancy not required... [07:55] crimsun, I was not aware that was necessary, but can certainly add it... [07:56] I was under the impression the usbfs issue would be resolved for edgy? [07:56] who's resolving it? [07:56] I thought you mentioned a name, don't recall it though... [07:57] clemens ladisch. [07:57] yes, that's the one [07:57] What note should I add to README.Debian? [07:57] if he doesn't fix it, I'll have to. As it is, the package is unusable without usbfs explicitly mounted. [07:58] you need to note that in README.Debian, because Edgy no longer mounts usbfs on boot. [07:58] So it would be handy to say so in README.Debian; now I understand. However, if the issue is in fact resolved, would that note be undesirable? [07:58] ok [07:58] I will add it and re-upload [07:58] MOTUs, please check midisport-firmware again in 20 mins or so. [07:59] it's not resolved at all, and if it's uploaded in its current advocated state, it certainly won't have been fixed. [07:59] dholbach, "* is ./usr/share/apps/ktagebuch/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/actions/newestentry.png the right path" mh i think that this icon is specific to ktagebuch [08:00] hm, it just sounds weird [08:11] crimsun, I've just uploaded another revision of midisport-firmware. It has not yet appeared on revu, however, if you'd like to take a peak at the README.Debian, I'd appreciate it... === nexu [n=nexu@2001:888:10:284:0:e7:ad:d1c7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3062 [08:12] s/peak/peek :) [08:12] I will as soon as I land in Atlanta; currently at an airport. [08:12] dholbach, heh :) [08:13] crimsun, cool, and thanks. Hope your travels are ok. === Mirrado [n=Mirrado@200.128.80.254] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:24] dholbach, which libs should i move? [08:24] libktagebuch, libfilesystem or only the plugin? === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080407E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] sorry Arbiter, I'm about to leave to meet for dinner [08:32] i hope somebody else will you help with that package [08:35] have a nice weekend guys [08:35] bye, daniel [08:35] bye daniel! [08:36] Hello boys [08:36] i uploaded gnomescan to revu using dput [08:36] and i wonder what next [08:36] How do you know we aren't all girls? :-) [08:36] lol [08:36] sorry for all girls [08:37] :-) [08:37] (i like Hello boys for the reference to the song Queen's Navy :P) [08:40] so, what next after dput ? [08:40] i don't even see the package at revu page :( [08:41] ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/ [08:42] strange. it doesn't show orig.tar.gz neither ubuntu2 upload (which fix a typo in gimp plugin instal [08:42] l) [08:42] Did you do a -S -sa on debuild/dpkg-buildpackage? [08:43] i did debuild -S [08:43] You need -sa to include the original source [08:44] ok [08:46] bddebian: ok uploaded and next ? [08:46] Wait for it to show up and get reviewed :-) [08:48] nice :D === Arbiter back [08:55] bddebian, want to put your stamp of approval on midisport-firmware for kicks? I'd like crimsun to look at it eventually, but maybe I can get one out of the way in the meantime ... ? [08:56] fbond: I'll try to tonight, I have a meeting here in a few minutes :-( === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@lns-bzn-32-82-254-23-163.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-062-241-239-3.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] bddebian, ok, thanks === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm_ [n=lbm@89.150.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable069.137-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hdavid [n=hugh@82-70-174-70.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@janus.donbosco.sth.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash__ [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hdavid [n=hugh@82-70-174-70.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@janus.donbosco.sth.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@pal-177-049.itap.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Deeah [n=diana@ool-4575ac6f.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TGljnZ74.html , I tried to sudo apt-get buld-dep xchat-gnome, and it did not work. What is wrong? === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] evening [10:50] evening phanatic [10:50] phanatic: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TGljnZ74.html , I tried to sudo apt-get buld-dep xchat-gnome, and it did not work. What is wrong? [10:50] hi Deeah, let me have a look... [10:51] Deeah: maybe you need to add dapper-updates repository, too? === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns02-1682.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] Deeah: use apt-cache showsrc xchat-gnome to get the build-depends listed and install them manually to find out which one is broken or missing [10:56] anybody have a link to the queue (launchpad/something/+queue) [10:56] awesome thanks a lot phanatic and geser; I appreciate the help. === lfittl [n=lfittl@janus.donbosco.sth.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] ryanakca: that one? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue === Jon335 [i=jon335@unaffiliated/jon335] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === lbm [n=lbm@89.150.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] geser: yes, thanks [11:39] How would I get KTouch backported from Edgy to Dapper? === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-93-102.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] Jon335: why? === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@19.Red-213-97-18.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:44] Jon335: kde 3.5.4 packages are available from kubuntu.org [11:47] morning all [11:48] morning ajmitch [11:52] morning [11:52] and good night :) [11:55] Riddell: For use in Edubuntu [11:55] hey ivoks, i'll send you a mail in a few minutes :) [11:56] Jon335: just get it from kubuntu.org === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] phanatic: sure, i will [12:02] ivoks: thanks [12:02] np [12:03] i need help anyknows where is the functionality which metacity use when it checks is window responding or not === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu