[12:33] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: not in all timezones :P
[12:33] <Fujitsu> True, but in a few :P
[12:37] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: it's REVU day.  get with it.  :P
[12:37] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: you should check out kclock sometimes
[12:38] <Hobbsee> -s
[12:45] <Arbiter> heya Hobbsee
[12:45] <Arbiter> :)
[12:46] <Hobbsee> hey Arbiter
[01:31] <Fujitsu> There is a bashism in unison:
[01:31] <Fujitsu> DST=${DST/unison/unison}
[01:31] <Fujitsu> What's a non-bashist way to do that?
[01:32] <bddebian> That doesn't even make any sense to my dumb arse
[01:33] <crimsun> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/refcards.html#AEN19003
[01:35] <Fujitsu> Thanks, crimsun. I was looking for something like that :)
[01:38] <Fujitsu> It looks in the string DST for the string unison, and replaces the first occurence with unison!? What the...
[01:40] <bddebian> Hmm
[01:41] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[01:41] <Fujitsu> The second unison can in fact differ...
[01:41] <Fujitsu> But how do I POSIXise that statement?
[01:47] <bddebian> Fujitsu: I'm sorry, I don't know :-(
[01:47] <Fujitsu> Where can I obtain an old version of a Debian package that's no longer in the archives?
[01:49] <Fujitsu> :(
[01:56] <bddebian> Heya LaserJock
[01:56] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[02:13] <bluefoxicy> hrm.
[02:13] <bluefoxicy> Nobody maintains libhoard
[02:15] <Hobbsee> bluefoxicy: take it over then?
[02:16] <bluefoxicy> Hobbsee:  I mean the package, not the code; but yeah.  The problem is both our packaged version and one I bulit from newest source cause EVERYTHING to segfault re bug #59441
[02:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59441 in libhoard "libhoard segfaults everything" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59441
[02:16] <Hobbsee> fun
[02:16] <Hobbsee> i meant the package of it, actually
[02:17] <Fujitsu> wmtop had a Xorg 7-related change in Dapper. Debian has no such change, but it builds and runs fine in Edgy anyway. Sync it?
[02:17] <bluefoxicy> ok
[02:17] <bluefoxicy> Hobbsee:  it's still busted and the mainline devs say it works for them :<
[02:18] <bluefoxicy> I was going to prod the maintainer :/  Ah well.
[02:18] <Hobbsee> hey Burgundavia
[02:18] <Fujitsu> Hi Burgundavia.
[02:19] <Burgundavia> hey Hobbsee
[02:19] <Burgundavia> hey Fujitsu
[02:19] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: i want to pick your brains later
[02:19] <Burgundavia> sure
[02:19] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:20] <bluefoxicy> braaaains o.o
[02:20] <Fujitsu> Can anybody confirm that I should sync wmtop?
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: got debdiffs against each?
[02:22] <Fujitsu> Just an extra dependency on libxext-dev.
[02:22] <Fujitsu> That's the only Ubuntu change.
[02:24] <Fujitsu> OKI.
[02:24] <Fujitsu> I've got to run off to school.
[02:59] <sid> And I went to Desktop/Preferences/Screen Resolution, but there is only one choice, 60hz and 640x480 ... I edited xorg.conf and tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart; but with the livecd this does nothing.  Anyone know about the dapper live cd?(the main installer disc)
[02:59] <sid> With the Dapper live cd for x86, I have an Ati 9100, and it defaulted to 640x480 resolution, and I can't even see the whole installer window.
[03:01] <LaserJock> sid: you should probably ask #ubuntu
[03:37] <bluefoxicy> sweet, hoard upstream is looking into it.
[04:17] <imbrandon> ajmitch, ping
[04:21] <imbrandon> ajmitch, un-ping
[04:21] <imbrandon> heh
[04:52] <Toadstool> heya everybody
[04:53] <imbrandon> moins ( again )
[04:53] <imbrandon> heh
[04:54] <bddebian> Heya Toadstool
[04:55] <Toadstool> hi bddebian
[04:55] <Toadstool> and imbrandon ;)
[04:56] <Toadstool> how are you all?
[04:56] <imbrandon> great , a tad bored but good ;)
[04:57] <imbrandon> hehe
[04:57] <Toadstool> lol
[04:57] <Toadstool> what for?
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> sigh
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> something tells me this should piss me off but eh.
[04:58] <Toadstool> uh?
[04:59] <imbrandon> Toadstool, an upload for my package that closes a few BTS #'s
[04:59] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:59] <Toadstool> imbrandon: you should poke every maintainer then
[04:59] <imbrandon> i am the maintainer ;)
[05:00] <imbrandon> just not a DD so i cant upload
[05:00] <Toadstool> ah!
[05:00] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:00] <Toadstool> yeah i know that too
[05:00] <Toadstool> i wish i could keep on working on edgy/my packages :(
[05:01] <imbrandon> why not ?
[05:01] <Toadstool> i don't have a permanent internet connection here
[05:01] <imbrandon> ahh
[05:01] <Toadstool> i've been in San Diego/the United States for only 6 days
[05:01] <imbrandon> ahh
[05:02] <Toadstool> and i work all the week
[05:02] <Toadstool> hope i'll figure out something saturday
[05:04] <Toadstool> ok, time to detach my screen :(
[05:04] <Toadstool> cya
[05:34] <trappist> who knows what's up with compiz-kde?  the compiz source package no longer builds it, but there's a package on the repo that's uninstallable due to a dep on an older compiz.
[05:40] <zakame> morning all! :D
[05:40] <bddebian> Heya zakame
[06:55] <Burgundavia> crimsun: ping (re: moodle)
[06:57] <Gloubiboulga> hello MOTU world
[08:17] <crimsun> Burgundavia: pong
[08:17] <Burgundavia> crimsun: moodle work. Just filed a pair of new bugs today
[08:18] <crimsun> I'm not tracking moodle atm; what are the bug #s?
[08:19] <Burgundavia> crimsun: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/moodle/+bugs
[08:20] <Burgundavia> 47812 is likely a non-issue
[08:20] <Burgundavia> but neither the dapper-updates or the edgy version instlal correctly
[08:20] <crimsun> -updates?
[08:21] <crimsun> the version that I worked on is in -security
[08:21] <Fujitsu> crimsun, wmtop had a dependency on libxext-dev added in Dapper, but the new Debian version (without it) builds and runs fine in Edgy. Should I request a sync?
[08:21] <crimsun> and I worked on it for it a week over discussion with pitti trying to figure out how to best unbreak the default
[08:21] <Burgundavia> crimsun: right, that one
[08:22] <crimsun> what was the highlighted httpd choice in debconf?
[08:22] <Burgundavia> apache2
[08:22] <crimsun> (should have been apache2)
[08:22] <crimsun> good, and it still gives that error?
[08:22] <crimsun> because I tested from a fresh install before pushing the update
[08:23] <Burgundavia> the dapper-security bug is not mine. I need to test that tomorrow nigth
[08:23] <Burgundavia> edgy one is mine: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/moodle/+bug/59473
[08:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59473 in moodle "Fails to install" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] 
[08:26] <crimsun> I didn't touch the pg* stuff because that's noted in README.Debian under "QUICKSTART/DATABASE CREATION"
[08:27] <crimsun> both 51813 and 59473 fall under that
[08:27] <crimsun> I'm not sure if it's critical enough to warrant bumping into -updates, though
[08:28] <crimsun> and I'll go ahead and close 47812, because that _is_ fixed
[08:28] <crimsun> if another MOTU wants to tackle 59472, feel free
[08:30] <Fujitsu> Or could a non-MOTU tackle it, and give a patch to a MOTU to upload?
[08:31] <crimsun> for edgy, sure
[08:42] <Fujitsu> There we go, it works...
[08:42] <imbrandon> ...
[08:43] <imbrandon> brandon@birdofprey:~$ glxinfo|grep render
[08:43] <imbrandon> direct rendering: Yes
[08:43] <imbrandon> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150 LE/PCI/SSE2
[08:43] <imbrandon>     GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
[08:43] <imbrandon> brandon@birdofprey:~$
[08:43] <imbrandon> grr
[08:43] <Fujitsu> ?
[08:43] <imbrandon> wrong window, sorry fellas ( and ladies )
[08:43] <imbrandon> heya Fujitsu, you got off last night before i could tell you, i uploaded a cupple of the merges you had on LP
[08:43] <imbrandon> brb
[08:43] <Fujitsu> I saw, thanks imbrandon :)
[08:46] <imbrandon> re
[08:46] <imbrandon> yw
[08:46] <imbrandon> man this computer is nice, i should use it more
[08:46] <imbrandon> specialy now the nvida driver is working ;)
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Now I've made the change that fixes #59472 (a whole one line, of course), do I attach the debdiff to the bug?
[08:49] <imbrandon> would probably be easiest ( i would just uplaod it now but i am not on my build box and i dont have my gpg key on this machine )
[08:52] <Sp4rKy_> hi guys
[08:52] <Burgundavia> crimsun: thanks
[08:53] <Fujitsu> I've attached a debdiff to #59472.
[08:55] <imbrandon> sed -i s/^\-/(unregistered nick)/g
[08:55] <imbrandon> grr
[08:55] <imbrandon> i need to really watch what window has focus
[08:55] <Fujitsu> Yeah, you do :P
[08:55] <Burgundavia> bug #59742
[08:56] <Burgundavia> bug #59743
[08:56] <Burgundavia> bug #59472
[08:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59472 in moodle "Installs with php4 instead of php5, which is supported" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59472
[09:03] <welshbyte> good morning
[09:04] <Fujitsu> Morning, welshbyte.
[09:04] <welshbyte> hey Fujitsu
[09:32] <dholbach> good morning
[09:58] <dholbach> It's the REVU DAY!
[09:59] <Hobbsee> oh no.  i'm not here then
[10:00] <dholbach> Hobbsee: pfffft
[10:01] <Hobbsee> dholbach: :P
[10:03] <Fujitsu> Hey dholbach!
[10:03] <Hobbsee> hi Fujitsu
[10:03] <Fujitsu> I've jost got the one package on REVU at the moment, it's been dormant for a month...
[10:04] <welshbyte> hello Hobbsee-like apparition
[10:05] <welshbyte> so whats a REVU day then?
[10:05] <Hobbsee> hehe hi welshbyte
[10:05] <Hobbsee> welshbyte: means that the MOTU's, of which i'm not one today, have to get off their lazy butts, and review the packages that have been sitting on REVU for ages.
[10:06] <welshbyte> ah, yeah i guess that's needed :)
[10:06] <Kagou> hi
[10:06] <Hobbsee> hey Kagou
[10:06] <welshbyte> hi Kagou
[10:08] <Hobbsee> just the person i was going to bug...
[10:08] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: are you planning on merging sane-backend anytime soon?
[10:09] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: only a month?
[10:09] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: have you asked people to review it?
[10:09] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: any reason to?  We're past FF now.
[10:10] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: what's this thing about you trying to destroy my poor feet?
[10:10] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: it's a new debian version.  is that itself included to get a UVF extension?
[10:10] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: to get rid of https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/56317
[10:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56317 in sane-backends "libsane.rules: Line 540 too long, can not be parsed by udev" [Unknown,Fix released] 
[10:11] <Mithrandir> I thought I fixed that
[10:11] <Hobbsee> the only other debian change is a few grammatical fixes in the README.Debian
[10:11] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: maybe in debian.  i just checked, i still get it
[10:12] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: I certainly didn't upload it to Debian, now.
[10:12] <Mithrandir> s/now/no/
[10:12] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: hmmm.  right.  but did you upload it to ubuntu though?  :P
[10:14] <Hobbsee> er, wait.  supposedly you did, but it hasnt worked.
[10:14] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, no, I haven't. I've been busy doing other stuff lately.
[10:15] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: dont you want your feet destroyed?
[10:15] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: no, I like my feet whole and well-working, thankyouverymuch
[10:15] <Hobbsee> and because stomping on people's feet is fun.  as is poking them in the ribs, and tickling them.
[10:15] <Hobbsee> heh
[10:18] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: looks to me like you have patched it, but for some reason it hasnt actually worked.  *shrugs*
[10:18] <Hobbsee> i had someone else getting the same error yesterday, so it's not my system
[10:25] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: didnt i comment on this before?
[10:25] <Fujitsu> Doesn't look like it...
[10:26] <Hobbsee> i thought i replied in here
[10:26] <Fujitsu> I never saw any comment.
[10:26] <Fujitsu> And there isn't one there now.
[10:27] <dholbach> one APPROVED PACKAGE
[10:27] <dholbach> glest-data - now only glest needs some tiny fixes and they can both be uploaded :)
[10:28] <dholbach> it's not my package ;)
[10:28] <dholbach> i'll look at convertall in a sec
[10:28] <Fujitsu> I know it's not yours, but you approved it :)
[10:29] <welshbyte> is it like, hugs-for-reviews?
[10:30] <dholbach> hehe :)
[10:30] <dholbach> I know we'll get some good stuff in today
[10:31] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: there you go.  there are plenty of comments there now
[10:31] <Hobbsee> dholbach: can you check my comments for sanity please?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> oh, wait, if you're going to review it, you can tell me what i missed
[10:32] <Fujitsu> I've got to go now...
[10:32] <imbrandon> later Fujitsu
[10:33] <Hobbsee> imbrandon!  get reviewing :P
[10:33] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, i am, well i'm downloading kde4 snapshot atm, then i am
[10:33] <imbrandon> btw whos pete savage on irc ?
[10:33] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: nice.
[10:33] <Hobbsee> check on lp, i guess
[10:34] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/09/08/kde4-krash-debs-here-for-kubuntu/
[10:34] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: you should learn how to spell favourite at some point.
[10:34] <imbrandon> heh
[10:35] <Hobbsee> they're the same as the ones on kubuntu.org?
[10:35] <imbrandon> its a link to kubuntu.org ;)
[10:35] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:38] <Hobbsee> hehehe yeah
[10:45] <dholbach> Hobbsee: , Fujitsu: added some comments
[10:45] <Hobbsee> dholbach: right, yep
[10:46] <Hobbsee> dholbach: why no shlibs?
[10:46] <dholbach> it's pure python
[10:46] <Hobbsee> ah
[10:46] <dholbach> there are no generated depends from shlibs
[10:46] <Hobbsee> right
[10:56] <imbrandon> how many we got participating in REVU day so far ? hehe
[11:04] <dholbach> sistpoty and bddebian do good work in reviewing, gloubiboulga too
[11:05] <dholbach> hey Gloubiboulga
[11:05] <dholbach> was just talking about you :)
[11:05] <imbrandon> moins Gloubiboulga
[11:05] <Gloubiboulga> hello!
[11:06] <Gloubiboulga> dholbach, oh, what did I break? ;)
[11:06] <dholbach> "sistpoty and bddebian do good work in reviewing, gloubiboulga too"
[11:06] <Gloubiboulga> Gloubiboulga "has done" some work
[11:07] <Gloubiboulga> I've been quite inactive on REVU lately
[11:10] <Hobbsee> i was never active on it, so can keep it that way :P
[11:10] <Hobbsee> never as a reviewer, anyway :P
[11:50] <phanatic> hello everyone
[11:50] <Hobbsee> hi phanatic
[11:50] <phanatic> hey Hobbsee
[11:50] <Hobbsee> StevenK: perhaps you should rectify that
[11:50] <phanatic> i'm stuck with a package
[11:50] <phanatic> created a skeleton with dh_make
[11:51] <phanatic> adjusted everything
[11:51] <StevenK> Hobbsee: Why? :-P
[11:51] <phanatic> and when i try to build the package, it doesn't get to the configure stage, it wants to compile it right away
[11:51] <Hobbsee> StevenK: so you can review stuff.
[11:52] <azeem> phanatic: dpkg-buildpackage calls debian/rules build, you need to make the build target depend on configure if you want to run configure first
[11:53] <phanatic> azeem: it does depend on configure. i have another package with the same debian/rules, and after clean, it configures...
[11:54] <azeem> phanatic: is configure declared PHONY?
[11:55] <phanatic> azeem: it's not. but it's the same with the working debian/rules
[11:55] <azeem> does the working debian/rules have a `configure' script as well?  Check the time stamps.
[11:56] <phanatic> azeem: they are both mono apps
[11:56] <phanatic> azeem: they both have configure
[11:57] <phanatic> azeem: they both have the same debian/rules structure (the working one has patches tho, but that shouldn't be the trick)
[11:57] <azeem> do you have a configure-stamp target?
[11:58] <phanatic> azeem: i'll upload both debian/rules files okay?
[11:58] <azeem> sure
[12:00] <phanatic> azeem: http://phanatic.hu/ubuntu/
[12:02] <azeem> check whether configure has been changed/created more recently than config.status
[12:02] <Gloubiboulga> Hobbsee, do konqueror plugins need the .la files to run?
[12:02] <Hobbsee> Gloubiboulga: no idea, sorry
[12:02] <Hobbsee> much
[12:02] <phanatic> azeem: ls -l gives the same date/time
[12:03] <azeem> phanatic: that could be a problem then
[12:03] <azeem> depends on sub-second timestamps
[12:03] <Gloubiboulga> Hobbsee, no problem
[12:03] <azeem> phanatic: run stat on them
[12:04] <phanatic> azeem: configure is 2secs older than config.status
[12:04] <phanatic> azeem: modification timestamp
[12:04] <azeem> for both packages?
[12:06] <phanatic> azeem: no, that's for the package which doesn't build
[12:07] <azeem> does it have config.status in the tarball?
[12:07] <phanatic> azeem: yes
[12:07] <azeem> hrm
[12:07] <phanatic> it does
[12:07] <azeem> I don't think that is kosher
[12:07] <phanatic> shouldn't be there?
[12:07] <phanatic> yeah, the other pkg's config.status is dated for today (last build)
[12:08] <phanatic> just rm'ing it should do the trick?
[12:08] <azeem> maybe
[12:08] <azeem> try to unpack the source package somewhere else and build again
[12:08] <azeem> and see whether that works
[12:09] <phanatic> build the package you mean? or just compile the application?
[12:09] <azeem> the former
[12:12] <phanatic> doesn't work
[12:12] <phanatic> but if i rm config.status, it builds fine with configure
[12:14] <azeem> then you will need to remove config.status in the clean rule, or touch configure in the clean rule, or tell upstream to stop shipping config.status in the tarball
[12:17] <phanatic> azeem: make distclean removes config.status, but for the first time run, it fails (no rule to make target distclean)
[12:18] <azeem> because there is no Makefile yet
[12:18] <phanatic> exactly
[12:18] <phanatic> so i should put a 'rm -f config.status' into the debian/rules clean target right?
[12:20] <azeem> that would be a possible solution IMHO, yes
[12:28] <dholbach> oooqs2-kde ready for upload!
[12:34] <phanatic> another question: there is a source package which is currently in universe, written in c++, but upstream has continued the development in c#, and released the application with the same name and a higher version number. shall i create a different source package for the new application, or stay with the current name?
[12:49] <neutrinomass> Can somebody please take a look and confirm/reject bug 59171 ?
[12:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59171 in deal "Please sync deal 3.0.8-4 from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59171
[12:51] <sladen> neutrinomass: keybuk should do it today
[12:54] <neutrinomass> sladen: OK, thanks - I'm not a MOTU so I was actually asking for somebody to ACK it ...
[12:55] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: done.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: i've listed my complaints on that bug, too.
[12:57] <neutrinomass> Hobbsee: Thanks, I missed that part (I couldn't find the e-mail describing the process at the time) :-)
[12:57] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: if you get stuck, you go to my LP team, and subscribe the team that i'm the leader of :P
[12:58] <Hobbsee> yay, my karma cracked the 600K mark.
[12:59] <neutrinomass> Try support requests Hobbsee ;) .... I cracked the 2 M mark overnight (they added karma for them, but they added *huge* amounts of karma for simple comments)
[12:59] <Hobbsee> neutrinomass: heh.  true that
[01:00] <Hobbsee> what's more impressive is that 600K karma is due to bugwork only.
[01:03] <Hobbsee> crimsun: whine.
[01:10] <Hobbsee> tseng: :)
[01:10] <Hobbsee> tseng: why so happy about it?
[01:10] <tseng> i need it
[01:10] <tseng> for work
[01:10] <thom> tseng is just need need need :P
[01:11] <tseng> I'm needy, its true
[01:11] <tseng> speaking of work, i should go
[01:12] <Arbiter> slomo, ping?
[01:14] <Hobbsee> tseng: ahh
[01:15] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ping, when you come back.
[01:19] <Hobbsee> he's requesting a sync of a package that doesnt even build.  it hasnt a while ago, because i tried it a while ago, so got suspicious.
[01:19] <Hobbsee> it fails with build deps.
[01:20] <Hobbsee> then i will have finished my whining.  temporarily :P
[01:23] <gomek> Anyone here have much experience with customizing the ubuntu install cds?
[01:24] <slomo> Arbiter: pong
[01:25] <gomek> Probably a better question to ask would be whether anyone is a wake, hehe...
[01:27] <Arbiter> slomo, there are few issues with gnucash
[01:28] <Arbiter> which is maintained by you, irrc
[01:28] <Arbiter> *iirc
[01:28] <slomo> nope, i merged the last debian version and did a rebuild for new dbus... but nothing more
[01:28] <slomo> i don't even use it :)
[01:28] <Arbiter> mh
[01:28] <slomo> but what's wrong with it?
[01:29] <Arbiter> mh wait
[01:30] <Arbiter> *** glibc detected *** gnucash: double free or corruption (out): 0x086ef9b0 ***
[01:30] <Arbiter> i'm compiling gnucash 2.0.1 to see if it resolves the problem
[01:31] <Arbiter> slomo, mh
[01:31] <slomo> nice... tell upstream to fix this :)
[01:31] <Arbiter> and
[01:31] <Arbiter> slomo, but if 2.0.1 fix this problem i think you should update the package  :)
[01:32] <slomo> will do :)
[01:32] <Arbiter> yep
[01:32] <slomo> try building the debian package :)
[01:32] <Arbiter> alredy doing it
[01:32] <Arbiter> slomo, and there is bug 59404
[01:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59404 in monodevelop "[UVF Exception]  Update monodevelop to monodevelop 0.12 " [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59404
[01:32] <Arbiter> :)
[01:33] <Bazzi> oh yeah, thatt bug is hot
[01:33] <Bazzi> I'd really appreciate md 0.12 in edgy
[01:33] <slomo> Arbiter: see my comment :P
[01:33] <Bazzi> great :)
[01:33] <Arbiter> ah rofl
[01:33] <Arbiter> :)
[01:33] <slomo> Bazzi: will come soon ;) but an uvf exception is not needed
[01:33] <Hobbsee> seeing as otherwise, anything that depends on a newer version of it, will fail. grumble.
[01:34] <slomo> Arbiter: or see the mail on ubuntu-devel i sent ;)
[01:34] <Arbiter> Hobbsee, kcmpureftpd entered in NEW queue :)
[01:34] <Hobbsee> Arbiter: nice.  wasnt it there before?
[01:34] <Arbiter> slomo, hehehe :)
[01:34] <Arbiter> Hobbsee, i've checked it's status 2 days ago
[01:34] <Bazzi> slomo: I'm dev'ing a new application based on mono on edgy, so I appreciaty any updates that'll make it into edgy
[01:35] <slomo> Bazzi: what application are you creating? :) and just tell me everything you need fixed
[01:35] <Bazzi> slomo: an irc client, planned is sort of an xchat-replacement
[01:36] <slomo> Bazzi: oh, talk to mirco bauer then... he already does the same :)
[01:37] <Bazzi> got any contact information/homepage/specs of him/his application?
[01:37] <Arbiter> Bazzi, meebey.net
[01:37] <Arbiter> iirc
[01:38] <Bazzi> The server at meebey.net is taking too long to respond. :(
[01:38] <slomo> Bazzi: meebey@meebey.net
[01:38] <Bazzi> is he in early development or has he already started?
[01:38] <Arbiter> slomo, the irc client -> smuxi?
[01:38] <slomo> Arbiter: yes
[01:38] <slomo> Bazzi: he has already code and it seems to work ;)
[01:39] <slomo> Bazzi: but i didn't test it yet
[01:39] <Bazzi> :o
[01:39] <Bazzi> because our group has some crazy specifications and I don't know whether they can be integrated into any existing developments
[01:39] <Arbiter> slomo, i've used his SmartIrc4Net for building an IRC bot
[01:40] <Arbiter> but i'm still waiting for DCC support :P
[01:40] <slomo> Bazzi: just look at it and talk to him :) maybe you can join force so i can finally remove xchat :P
[01:40] <slomo> Arbiter: please ping me when gnucash 2.0.1 fixed it, i'll merge and upload then :)
[01:41] <Bazzi> what the fuck he had almost the same idea we had
[01:41] <slomo> Arbiter, Bazzi: is one of you using tomboy? i need someone for debugging a bug i can't reproduce :)
[01:42] <Bazzi> no I'm currently not using it
[01:59] <Arbiter> slomo, how can i help?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: ping
[01:59] <slomo> Arbiter: does it crash for you when using as a panel applet (not in the notification area)?
[01:59] <slomo> Arbiter: for example in the context menu or preferences?
[01:59] <Arbiter> mh wait
[02:00] <Arbiter> there's a problem
[02:00] <Arbiter> i have the error message in italian, but translated in english is something like:
[02:01] <Arbiter> "The panel has found a problem while loading OAFIID:TomboyApplet"
[02:01] <slomo> Arbiter: thanks, at least someone can reproduce it :)
[02:01] <Arbiter> :)
[02:01] <slomo> Arbiter: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tomboy/+bug/59057/comments/4
[02:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59057 in tomboy "Crash on tomboy applet starting" [Untriaged,Confirmed] 
[02:02] <slomo> please do this and paste it somewhere, maybe on the bugreport
[02:02] <slomo> and then compare with comment 5
[02:02] <Arbiter> "Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for Mono.Unix.Native.Stdlib ---> System.DllNotFoundException: libMonoPosixHelper.so"
[02:02] <slomo> wtf
[02:02] <Arbiter> (tomboy --panel-applet)
[02:03] <slomo> /usr/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.so exists for you? ;)
[02:03] <slomo> and you're running our packages not something else?
[02:03] <Arbiter> your packages
[02:04] <slomo> hrm... the file exists?
[02:04] <Arbiter> arbiter@darkstar:~$ LANG="en" ls -l /usr/lib/libMono*
[02:04] <Arbiter> ls: /usr/lib/libMono*: No such file or directory
[02:04] <slomo> nice
[02:04] <slomo> libmono0 is installed?
[02:05] <Arbiter> nope
[02:05] <slomo> wtf
[02:05] <slomo> please install it :)
[02:05] <Arbiter> hehehe
[02:05] <Arbiter> dependency issue? :P
[02:05] <slomo> yes
[02:11] <Arbiter> arbiter@darkstar:~$ LANG="en" ls -l /usr/lib/libMono*
[02:11] <Arbiter> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 101940 Sep  4 22:55 /usr/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.so
[02:11] <Arbiter> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   6684 Sep  4 22:55 /usr/lib/libMonoSupportW.so
[02:11] <tseng> slomo: depend is missing
[02:11] <Arbiter> slomo, so
[02:11] <Arbiter> i've started tomboy --panel-applet
[02:11] <slomo> tseng: yes, obviously thanks to my last upload ;) see #debian-mono
[02:11] <Arbiter> but adding tomboy to the panel works
[02:11] <slomo> Arbiter: perferences menu?
[02:11] <tseng> slomo: yes I see
[02:11] <Arbiter> but it creates up to 4-5 icons
[02:11] <Arbiter> :P
[02:11] <tseng> slomo: i knew it was your fault :)
[02:11] <Arbiter> it works
[02:11] <Arbiter> i have the preferences menu working
[02:11] <slomo> thanks
[02:11] <tseng> ok well they dont use the same code path
[02:11] <tseng> for the applet and the tray
[02:11] <Arbiter> now, it's time for trying gnucash :D
[02:11] <Arbiter> *** glibc detected *** gnucash: double free or corruption (out): 0x086f5fb0 ***
[02:11] <Arbiter> pffff.
[02:11] <Arbiter> <-- hates gnucash
[02:11] <slomo> :(
[02:11] <Arbiter> :P
[02:11] <Arbiter> slomo, can you reproduce this bug?
[02:12] <Arbiter> "File" -> "New" -> "New file..."
[02:12] <slomo> i don't use gnucash ;)
[02:12] <Arbiter> slomo, eh but i'm not sure if this problems appears only to me :P
[02:12] <Arbiter> *problem*
[02:18] <Arbiter> hm
[02:18] <Arbiter> i'll report a bug to upstream then
[02:18] <slomo> thanks :)
[02:18] <Arbiter> slomo, but the strange thing is that a friend of mine uses gnucash on gentoo (same version) and he doesn't have any problem o.O
[02:18] <slomo> hmm
[02:18] <Arbiter> slomo, uhm do you want the output of tomboy --panel-applet? (if useful)
[02:18] <slomo> Arbiter: only if it crashes
[02:18] <Arbiter> ah, nope then :)
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Arbiter: i read somewhere this morning (before coffee) that someone was uploading a fix for gnucash.
[02:18] <Arbiter> uhm..
[02:18] <Arbiter> because in the current state of the things, gnucash can't be used at all :P
[02:19] <Arbiter> can't save, can't load.. :P
[02:19] <slomo> bbl
[03:14] <kr4z> is today the last day for uploading packages to REVU?
[03:14] <kr4z> because it's REVU day?
[03:16] <kr4z> I can't really be around today and I have packages there :S
[03:17] <Hobbsee> kr4z: no, you can upload at any time
[03:18] <kr4z> ah, ok
[03:32] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:33] <welshbyte> ello bddebian
[03:33] <Arbiter> moin bddebian
[03:33] <bddebian> Hi welshbyte, Arbiter
[03:43] <dholbach> ok
[03:43] <dholbach> we have packages on REVU that have no input since january
[03:43] <dholbach> i'm going to archive them
[03:43] <dholbach> everything that has comments and didn't change since 4 months will be archived
[03:43] <Goshawk> dholbach: can you gime me my password?
[03:43] <dholbach> Goshawk: the page gives it to you
[03:43] <bddebian> dholbach: Go Daniel go!! :-)
[03:43] <Goshawk> dholbach: maybe it happens because people cannot comment them
[03:44] <Goshawk> dholbach: no it can't
[03:44] <dholbach> Goshawk: they could to uploads to correct issues
[03:44] <Goshawk> it's bugged
[03:44] <dholbach> Goshawk: type *something*
[03:44] <dholbach> then will it ask you if you want to get your password retrieved
[03:44] <kr4z> I wasn't able to get my password from revu either
[03:44] <Goshawk> dholbach: the REVU should give you a password typing a message to gpg, but there is not a message for me (and many other users)
[03:45] <Goshawk> it's bugged
[03:45] <Goshawk> i said that more than a month ago
[03:45] <dholbach> Goshawk: relax :)
[03:45] <dholbach> i'll test it and if it's really bugged tell the right people
[03:45] <Goshawk> dholbach: i'll show you
[03:46] <Goshawk> ah! now it's here
[03:46] <Goshawk> it's working now
[03:46] <dholbach> it's not bogged
[03:46] <Goshawk> kr4z: try again, now it seems that it's working
[03:47] <kr4z> hmm, now there's a PGP message
[03:47] <Goshawk> dholbach: on August 20 14:45 it was bugged
[03:47] <dholbach> might be, yes
[03:47] <Goshawk> i'm saying that because i'm the uploader of that package and i did have te possibility to comment until now
[03:47] <Goshawk> s/did/didn't
[03:48] <dholbach> it's all good now, isn't it?
[03:48] <Goshawk> dholbach: yep it works for me.... thanks guy
[03:48] <dholbach> ok good
[03:48] <dholbach> another package approved
[03:48] <dholbach> and now gloubiboulga is gone
[03:49] <kr4z> hm, I put that PGP message in the shell like it said, and it asked for me passphrase, but I don't see a password anywhere
[03:49] <dholbach> you typed your passphrase in?
[03:49] <kr4z> yeah
[03:49] <dholbach> you added "...; echo" to the command above?
[03:49] <dholbach> like it said on the page?
[03:49] <kr4z> yep
[03:50] <dholbach> it just worked for me
[03:50] <kr4z> after I put in the phassphrase, it just said this:
[03:50] <kr4z> gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG-E key, ID 73E2CF9D, created 2006-08-28
[03:50] <kr4z>       "Shane O'Connell <shane.oconnell@kr4z.com>"
[03:50] <kr4z> None
[03:50] <kr4z> shane@dax:~$
[03:51] <kr4z> or should I not have pasted that into the channel? :P
[03:51] <dholbach> no that's all fine
[03:52] <kr4z> what does "None" mean?
[03:53] <dholbach> that could be a bug
[03:53] <dholbach> siretart: any idea about this? ^
[03:54] <siretart> it usually means that there is either no key or 2 keys matching on the emailadress in the keyring
[03:55] <dholbach> oh
[03:56] <siretart> I may be wrong
[03:57] <siretart> kr4z: what was your revu login again?
[03:57] <kr4z> kr4z
[03:57] <siretart> kr4z: no. it is always an email address
[03:57] <kr4z> ohh
[03:57] <kr4z> I didn't put my email in the login thing
[03:57] <siretart> then do so :)
[03:57] <dholbach> haha :)
[03:58] <kr4z> ahhhh!
[03:58] <kr4z> it works!
[03:58] <kr4z> heh
[03:58] <kr4z> thanks :P
[03:58] <siretart> :)
[03:58] <dholbach> siretart produces bug-free code
[03:58] <siretart> if that only was true
[03:58] <dholbach> man, we all know it is
[03:59] <siretart> the whole lostpw.py is an ugly hack, it badly needs to be rewritten
[03:59] <dholbach> StevenK: rails?
[03:59] <siretart> or perhaps I should configure sudo and use that
[04:00] <siretart> right, we wanted to upgrade tiber
[04:00] <StevenK> dholbach: Ruby on Rails
[04:00] <siretart> StevenK: I'm on a move, and I don't have internet access at home
[04:00] <dholbach> I don't think the choice of program language is the problem
[04:00] <siretart> I wanted to do it before, but I didn't manage it
[04:00] <StevenK> Indeed, I'm just being a bastard. :-)
[04:00] <siretart> you bat's turds!
[04:01] <siretart> jk ;)
[04:04] <tseng> StevenK: woo rails
[04:04] <StevenK> Heh, a fan
[04:42] <zul> dholbach: ping
[04:42] <dholbach> zul: pong
[04:43] <zul> dholbach: you can archive the xen stuff in revu obviously we arent using it
[04:44] <dholbach> sure
[04:44] <dholbach> xen-3.0?
[04:44] <zul> yep
[04:45] <dholbach> done
[04:45] <zul> merci
[04:48] <crimsun> Hobbsee: please e-mail; I'm traveling lately
[04:49] <Hobbsee> crimsun: gotcha.  two small points.  if you're confirming sync requests, can you please mark them as confirmed?  also, you let through a couple that obviously ftbfs.  but the guys should have tested them, and i'll yell at them later.
[04:50] <Hobbsee> crimsun: the confirming is just easier for what has and hasnt been done - seeing as you're not the only one committing
[04:50] <Hobbsee> and it's easiest to sort by status, i've found.
[04:50] <Hobbsee> so unless there's an easier way somehow....
[04:50] <Hobbsee> crimsun: want this log emailed to you?
[04:50] <Hobbsee> geser: ping.
[04:50] <geser> Hobbsee: hello
[04:51] <crimsun> Hobbsee: will do. sure. ftbfs isn't necessarily a stopper; prior to the X.Org resync, we were syncing ones that would have ftbfs.
[04:51] <Hobbsee> crimsun: true that.  i would have thought that it building was rather important though.  true though
[04:53] <Hobbsee> geser: oh okay, i must have missed that.  i wont yell at you then.
[04:54] <Hobbsee> i've got more of a problem with Fujitsu's sync request.
[04:55] <Hobbsee> which depends on diacanvas2, which fails to build from source anyway.
[04:55] <Hobbsee> so i've got no idea how in hell he would have been able to test that.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> geser: sorry for the pinging, and annoyance.
[04:56] <geser> no problem
[04:56] <geser> should I put that info in front of the changelog the next time?
[04:57] <Hobbsee> geser: that'd be good :)
[04:57] <Hobbsee> hey what, there are people saying "hey, this would be cool if this were fixed.  fix it please"
[04:57] <Hobbsee> that's not the purpose of the group.
[04:57] <tortoise_> I'm trying to write a patch for gnome-control-center but running dpatch-edit-patch patch patchname` gives me an error.
[04:57] <tortoise_> rm -f debian/gnome-control-center.1
[04:57] <tortoise_> rm -rf /tmp/dpep-ref.uI3696/control-center-2.16.0/debian/build
[04:57] <tortoise_> make: *** No rule to make target `unpatch'.  Stop.
[04:58] <jono> hey
[04:58] <jsgotangco> hello
[04:58] <zul> hey jono
[04:58] <dholbach> hey jono
[04:59] <dholbach> happy REVU day!
[04:59] <jono> hows the day going? :)
[04:59] <jono> happy REVU day!! :)
[04:59] <jono> you guys kick ass in a way that asses are not usually kicked, with class, elegance and sheer force :)
[04:59] <dholbach> glest.org for examples KICKs ass
[04:59] <jono> :)
[05:00] <jono> I am hoping someone has picked up the new gst editor :)
[05:00] <bddebian> Yeah, lets get glest in there darn it! :-)
[05:00] <jono> glest, cool
[05:00] <dholbach> jono: you saw revu.tauware.de before?
[05:00] <jono> I am not familiar with how revu works
[05:01] <dholbach> you upload a package, it gets comments, gets reviewed, two motus give you a OK and your package can get included (if it's NEW)
[05:01] <dholbach> one MOTU if it's an upload of something that is in the archive already
[05:02] <dholbach> (and gnome-translate looks good too)
[05:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59508 in gftp "[Edgy]  Sync/Merge request 2.0.18-15 from Debian testing" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] 
[05:03] <jono> awesome :)
[05:05] <dholbach> we'd need stats on the page
[05:05] <dholbach> so who checks out the code for it and adds stats to the page? :)
[05:05] <bddebian> It would be nice if we could filter by packages that we have commented on too :-)
[05:13] <Hobbsee> bddebian: indeed.  fix the last bug in -motu
[05:13] <bddebian> Hobbsee: ??
[05:13] <Hobbsee> bddebian: ie, fix https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gftp/+bug/59508 if you want :P
[05:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59508 in gftp "[Edgy]  Sync/Merge request 2.0.18-15 from Debian testing" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] 
[05:14] <bddebian> Hobbsee: Oh, heh
[05:19] <trappist> anyone know what's up with compiz-kde? the compiz source package no longer builds it, and there's an old package on the repo that won't install due to deps on an old compiz
[05:20] <fbond> trappist, same with compiz-gnome
[05:20] <fbond> (IIRC)
[05:20] <dholbach> keepassx looks good too
[05:22] <trappist> fbond: no, it builds compiz-gnome (just doublechecked) and it's installable from the repo (doublechecked that too)
[05:26] <dholbach> *upload*
[05:28] <fbond> trappist, hmm, I remember something similar with my gnome/compiz setup at home ...
[05:34] <Riddell> who's the dude that runs the ubuntu-xx.org server?
[05:34] <jsgotangco> smurf?
[05:35] <jsgotangco> most of the xx.org domains are hosted on his server, some others host their own
[05:41] <Riddell> thanks jsgotangco
[06:01] <dholbach> :-)
[06:01] <dholbach> hey lfittl
[06:01] <dholbach> happy REVU day!
[06:01] <lfittl> hi dholbach :)
[06:02] <dholbach> hey Gloubiboulga
[06:02] <dholbach> Gloubiboulga: nice work on gnome-translate
[06:02] <dholbach> Gloubiboulga: just add dh_iconcache to it and go and upload it! :)
[06:02] <lfittl> yep, I know, unfortunately Debian BSP Vienna 2006 also starts today, so no reviewing by me today ;)
[06:02] <dholbach> lfittl: enjoy it! :)
[06:03] <lfittl> I will, thanks :)
[06:03] <bddebian> Heya lfittl
[06:04] <lfittl> hey bddebian
[06:04] <bddebian> lfittl: Did you see the replies on the Scourge forum? :-(
[06:05] <dholbach> hi Tonio_: happy REVU day!
[06:05] <Arbiter> revu day?
[06:05] <dholbach> REVU DAY!
[06:05] <dholbach> :-)
[06:05] <Tonio_> dholbach: hehe, okay I'll go there a bit ;)
[06:05] <Arbiter> yeah REVU Day!
[06:05] <Arbiter> o.O
[06:06] <dholbach> nice
[06:06] <Tonio_> dholbach: sorry but I was on my bug day in fact ;)
[06:06] <Gloubiboulga> dholbach, I'm waiting for the new libtranslate build, and I'll upload gnome-translate
[06:06] <dholbach> Gloubiboulga: excellent
[06:06] <lfittl> bddebian: no, had absolutly no time for ubuntu this week, will catch up with all the stuff next week
[06:06] <dholbach> kbib is in good shape - i approved it too
[06:06] <Arbiter> dholbach, REVU Day => reviews, reviews, reviews? :D
[06:07] <dholbach> Arbiter: exactly - and cleaning the page of old uploads
[06:07] <Arbiter> oooh good
[06:07] <Arbiter> review knowit :P
[06:07] <dholbach> Arbiter: so packages that have comments, but had no changes for 4 months should just be archived
[06:07] <dholbach> the lists are too long already
[06:08] <Arbiter> bddebian, ping?
[06:08] <bddebian> Arbiter: Yes
[06:08] <Arbiter> do you remember the packaging issue?
[06:08] <Arbiter> dh_makeshlibs doesn't solve anything :P
[06:09] <bddebian> Arbiter: Ah
[06:10] <Arbiter> bddebian, i think that those ktagebuch libraries are fine
[06:10] <bddebian> Arbiter: Have dholbach take a look :-)
[06:10] <Arbiter> rofl
[06:16] <dholbach> i'll have a look
[06:18] <dholbach> aeskulap looks good
[06:19] <dholbach> looking at ktagebuch
[06:20] <Arbiter> brb
[06:20] <Arbiter> dholbach, for any issue ask me in query
[06:20] <Arbiter> i'll be back in 45min (i hope)
[06:20] <dholbach> test building it
[06:20] <dholbach> looks quite ok
[06:23] <Tonio_> dholbach: it looks that I can't authenticate on revu....
[06:23] <Tonio_> looks like my password has changed probably...
[06:24] <dholbach> Tonio_: try recovering the password
[06:24] <Tonio_> recover function doesn't work -> gives me the python source
[06:24] <Tonio_> ah... this time it worked...
[06:24] <Tonio_> ouch, that's not fair...
[06:26] <dholbach> hm?
[06:29] <dholbach> added some comments about ktagebuch to the page
[06:29] <Tonio_> dholbach: looks like I can't recover
[06:30] <Tonio_> I don't get anything text to paste to decrypt :)
[06:30] <dholbach> Tonio_: what happens if you try to do it?
[06:30] <Tonio_> dholbach: there is no text to paste, here is the problem
[06:30] <Tonio_> look like my password is blank...
[06:31] <dholbach> weird
[06:31] <dholbach> Tonio_: did you write the proper mail adress?
[06:32] <Tonio_> dholbach: OMG ! I forgot I used that one for revu......
[06:32] <dholbach> :-)
[06:32] <Tonio_> dholbach: sorry, that's the evidence I don't revu a lot since I forget the registered one ^^
[06:36] <bddebian> Tonio_: You're fired ;-)
[06:37] <Tonio_> bddebian: haha :)
[07:10] <dholbach> how's the REVUing going?
[07:10] <dholbach> any other success stories?
[07:10] <dholbach> if you approve a package and only need another review, just shout
[07:10] <dholbach> same for people who are here and want their package reviewed
[07:11] <AnAnt> ping lionelp
[07:12] <AnAnt> ping bddebian
[07:12] <bddebian> AnAnt: yo
[07:12] <AnAnt> bddebian: how's acon ?
[07:12] <bddebian> AnAnt: My apologies, I haven't been able to get back to it
[07:14] <AnAnt> bddebian: ok
[07:14] <Tonio_> dholbach: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2971 looks good to me
[07:14] <AnAnt> still tied up @ work ?
[07:14] <fbond> midisport-firmware should be ready to go!
[07:14] <bddebian> AnAnt: Yep :(
[07:14] <fbond> if someone wants to take a look: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3062
[07:15] <Tonio_> fbond: looking
[07:15] <dholbach> nice, let's get some action into REVU day
[07:16] <fbond> Tonio_, thanks!
[07:16] <dholbach> Tonio_: looking at knowit
[07:16] <AnAnt> will someone have a look at : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3005
[07:17] <fbond> cheers revu-ers, keep up the good work!
[07:17] <AnAnt> who is dh@mailempfang.de ?
[07:18] <dholbach> that's me :)
[07:18] <AnAnt> dholbach: ok, I'm the guy who uploaded elinks
[07:18] <dholbach> ah ok
[07:18] <dholbach> well yeah
[07:18] <dholbach> we can't let main stuff depend on universe stuff
[07:18] <Spec>  dh@mailempfang.de  	 Nicholas: any update?
[07:18] <dholbach> and build-depends as well
[07:19] <Spec> my laptop died and so work halted, i'll get a new version up within this next week
[07:19] <AnAnt> dholbach: oh, so the problem is in the build-depends ?
[07:19] <dholbach> Spec: rock on
[07:19] <dholbach> AnAnt: yes, at least one lib was in universe
[07:19] <AnAnt> dholbach: because the elinks package does not depend on Universe stuff, only elinks-full (& maybe elinks-lite) depend on Universe stuff
[07:19] <AnAnt> dholbach: yes, that's true the build-depends have some universe stuff
[07:20] <dholbach> AnAnt: doesn't matter - the source is in main
[07:20] <AnAnt> dholbach: I didn't know that this is the problem
[07:20] <dholbach> source in main can't build-dep / dep on stuff in universe
[07:20] <AnAnt> :s/the/a
[07:20] <dholbach> that's at least one problem
[07:20] <AnAnt> dholbach: ok, so is there a solution for this ?
[07:20] <dholbach> if you feel really strongly about it, you need to file a main inclusion report
[07:20] <AnAnt> dholbach: what's that ?
[07:21] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue
[07:21] <dholbach> it needs to get reviewed and it's better if we have a real maintainer for those libraries
[07:21] <dholbach> as 'moving to main' means: this is supported stuff
[07:22] <AnAnt> yeah, I doubt that this is possible
[07:22] <AnAnt> isn't there another solution ?
[07:22] <AnAnt> should I create another source package & call it elinks-full for example ?
[07:22] <dholbach> that'd mean having the source two times in the archive :/
[07:23] <AnAnt> yeah
[07:23] <AnAnt> well, is there another solution ?
[07:23] <AnAnt> other than "forget it" of course
[07:24] <dholbach> those are all solutions
[07:24] <bersace> Hello
[07:26] <AnAnt> those ?
[07:26] <AnAnt> you mean the solution I proposed (ie. having the source twice) is an acceptable solution ?
[07:28] <bersace> i want to upload a new package to universe, howto ?
[07:28] <AnAnt> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[07:30] <bersace> hmm, so if i want to upload a package, i become a MOTU ?
[07:30] <AnAnt> you have to become a MOTU to be able to upload
[07:30] <AnAnt> not vice versa
[07:32] <fbond> bersace: what you really want is to upload a package to revu, and have a MOTU upload it to revu (after approving it)
[07:33] <fbond> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New/Policy
[07:33] <bersace> fbond: i spent all today packaging gnomescan and i just propose to include sources deb
[07:35] <dholbach> Tonio_: knowit is good work (just an added dh_iconcache would be nice)
[07:36] <dholbach> fbond: why does it build-dep on udev?
[07:36] <Tonio_> dholbach: dh_iconcache is now in kde.mk
[07:36] <dholbach> Tonio_: it uses debhelper only
[07:36] <Tonio_> dholbach: oups, I missed that, sorry. you're right
[07:36] <dholbach> apart from that it's good to go
[07:36] <dholbach> Tonio_: you want to add it and upload it and make a note in the changelog you changed it? just so we can get going?
[07:36] <dholbach>  :-)
[07:37] <Tonio_> dholbach: will do ;)
[07:37] <dholbach> rock and roll :-)
[07:37] <crimsun> I suspect the udev b-d is (incorrectly) for /etc/udev/rules.d/, which can be created using dh_installdirs(1)
[07:37] <dholbach> it build-dep on things thare in depends as well
[07:38] <dholbach> s/thare/that are
[07:38] <dholbach> <-- too much REVU today ;)
[07:39] <crimsun> scarily enough I autotranslated that to "that are" :)
[07:40] <crimsun> didn't even notice til you pointed it out
[07:40] <dholbach> haha :-)
[07:45] <Tonio_> dholbach: knowit uploaded
[07:45] <dholbach> Tonio_: super!
[07:46] <Arbiter> back
[07:47] <Arbiter> dholbach, * splitting out the libraries would be good.
[07:47] <Arbiter> why? libktagebuch is required
[07:47] <Arbiter> and we have only one plugin
[07:47] <Arbiter> :P
[07:48] <fbond> dholbach, good question, hang on
[07:48] <dholbach> Arbiter: it ships libraries itself
[07:48] <dholbach> Arbiter: it'd be good if those were in a separate binary package
[07:48] <Tonio_> dholbach: I forgot to mention I did the change in changelog, but that's not very important since it is initial package
[07:49] <fbond> dholbach, midisport-firmware build-dep's on udev because ./configure fails without it
[07:49] <dholbach> Tonio_: that's cool
[07:49] <dholbach> fbond: ahhhhhhh ok
[07:49] <fbond> I guess there's probably a configure option to force it to not bother looking
[07:49] <fbond> lemme check
[07:49] <Arbiter> was knowit uploaded?
[07:50] <fbond> hmm, there is no configure option, but I could just comment that bit ...
[07:50] <fbond> not really good practice, though, IMO
[07:50] <dholbach> it's ok, not that bad
[07:50] <fbond> ok, thanks
[07:50] <Arbiter> dholbach, ktagebuch and ktagebuch-plugins would be ok?
[07:50] <Tonio_> fbond: midisport-firmware advocated
[07:51] <crimsun> has fbond added the README.Debian note regarding usbfs if you've advocated it?
[07:52] <Arbiter> in your opinion, what should i do with debian-servicemenu and attach-to-email servicemenu?
[07:52] <Tonio_> Arbiter: yes I uploaded it
[07:52] <Arbiter> (they don't have any copyright notice nor GPL comments)
[07:53] <Arbiter> website says "GPL", upstream was asked for such comments but i didn't get any answer
[07:53] <Arbiter> Tonio_, thanks
[07:54] <Tonio_> fbond: maybe I missed the udev build dependancy not required...
[07:55] <fbond> crimsun, I was not aware that was necessary, but can certainly add it...
[07:56] <fbond> I was under the impression the usbfs issue would be resolved for edgy?
[07:56] <crimsun> who's resolving it?
[07:56] <fbond> I thought you mentioned a name, don't recall it though...
[07:57] <crimsun> clemens ladisch.
[07:57] <fbond> yes, that's the one
[07:57] <fbond> What note should I add to README.Debian?
[07:57] <crimsun> if he doesn't fix it, I'll have to. As it is, the package is unusable without usbfs explicitly mounted.
[07:58] <crimsun> you need to note that in README.Debian, because Edgy no longer mounts usbfs on boot.
[07:58] <fbond> So it would be handy to say so in README.Debian; now I understand.  However, if the issue is in fact resolved, would that note be undesirable?
[07:58] <fbond> ok
[07:58] <fbond> I will add it and re-upload
[07:58] <fbond> MOTUs, please check midisport-firmware again in 20 mins or so.
[07:59] <crimsun> it's not resolved at all, and if it's uploaded in its current advocated state, it certainly won't have been fixed.
[07:59] <Arbiter> dholbach, "* is ./usr/share/apps/ktagebuch/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/actions/newestentry.png the right path" mh i think that this icon is specific to ktagebuch
[08:00] <dholbach> hm, it just sounds weird
[08:11] <fbond> crimsun, I've just uploaded another revision of midisport-firmware.  It has not yet appeared on revu, however, if you'd like to take a peak at the README.Debian, I'd appreciate it...
[08:11] <fbond> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3062
[08:12] <fbond> s/peak/peek :)
[08:12] <crimsun> I will as soon as I land in Atlanta; currently at an airport.
[08:12] <Arbiter> dholbach, heh :)
[08:13] <fbond> crimsun, cool, and thanks.  Hope your travels are ok.
[08:24] <Arbiter> dholbach, which libs should i move?
[08:24] <Arbiter> libktagebuch, libfilesystem or only the plugin?
[08:32] <dholbach> sorry Arbiter, I'm about to leave to meet for dinner
[08:32] <dholbach> i hope somebody else will you help with that package
[08:35] <dholbach> have a nice weekend guys
[08:35] <crimsun> bye, daniel
[08:35] <dholbach> bye daniel!
[08:36] <bersace> Hello boys
[08:36] <bersace> i uploaded gnomescan to revu using dput
[08:36] <bersace> and i wonder what next
[08:36] <bddebian> How do you know we aren't all girls? :-)
[08:36] <bersace> lol
[08:36] <bersace> sorry for all girls
[08:37] <bddebian> :-)
[08:37] <bersace> (i like Hello boys for the reference to the song Queen's Navy :P)
[08:40] <bersace> so, what next after dput ?
[08:40] <bersace> i don't even see the package at revu page :(
[08:41] <bersace> ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/
[08:42] <bersace> strange. it doesn't show orig.tar.gz neither ubuntu2 upload (which fix a typo in gimp plugin instal
[08:42] <bersace> l)
[08:42] <bddebian> Did you do a -S -sa on debuild/dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:43] <bersace> i did debuild -S
[08:43] <bddebian> You need -sa to include the original source
[08:44] <bersace> ok
[08:46] <bersace> bddebian: ok uploaded and next ?
[08:46] <bddebian> Wait for it to show up and get reviewed :-)
[08:48] <bersace> nice :D
[08:55] <fbond> bddebian, want to put your stamp of approval on midisport-firmware for kicks?  I'd like crimsun to look at it eventually, but maybe I can get one out of the way in the meantime ... ?
[08:56] <bddebian> fbond: I'll try to tonight, I have a meeting here in a few minutes :-(
[09:05] <fbond> bddebian, ok, thanks
[10:47] <Deeah> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TGljnZ74.html , I tried to sudo apt-get buld-dep xchat-gnome, and it did not work. What is wrong?
[10:49] <phanatic> evening
[10:50] <Deeah> evening phanatic
[10:50] <Deeah> phanatic: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TGljnZ74.html , I tried to sudo apt-get buld-dep xchat-gnome, and it did not work. What is wrong?
[10:50] <phanatic> hi Deeah, let me have a look...
[10:51] <phanatic> Deeah: maybe you need to add dapper-updates repository, too?
[10:53] <geser> Deeah: use apt-cache showsrc xchat-gnome to get the build-depends listed and install them manually to find out which one is broken or missing
[10:56] <ryanakca> anybody have a link to the queue (launchpad/something/+queue)
[10:56] <Deeah> awesome thanks a lot phanatic and geser; I appreciate the help.
[11:04] <geser> ryanakca: that one? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue
[11:33] <ryanakca> geser: yes, thanks
[11:39] <Jon335> How would I get KTouch backported from Edgy to Dapper?
[11:43] <Riddell> Jon335: why?
[11:44] <Riddell> Jon335: kde 3.5.4 packages are available from kubuntu.org
[11:47] <ajmitch> morning all
[11:48] <phanatic> morning ajmitch
[11:52] <ivoks> morning
[11:52] <ivoks> and good night :)
[11:55] <Jon335> Riddell: For use in Edubuntu
[11:55] <phanatic> hey ivoks, i'll send you a mail in a few minutes :)
[11:56] <Riddell> Jon335: just get it from kubuntu.org
[12:02] <ivoks> phanatic: sure, i will
[12:02] <phanatic> ivoks: thanks
[12:02] <ivoks> np
[12:03] <coyctecm> i need help anyknows where is the functionality which metacity use when it checks is window responding or not