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magnetmoparfan90: install openGL12:01
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nozorroPrzemcio1978: don't know gwenview, but from the screenshots it's quite similar to gthumb ...12:01
Paddy_EIRENAyone know how to restart scim12:01
atzeDoes anyone know if there is a sollution yet to the 100% cpu when using an nvidia driver with opengl, it's a widely known bug12:01
moparfan90i had it working before but i did something trying to install xgl12:01
moparfan90how to i install it12:01
moparfan90....openGL12:01
atzeand I need opengl :(12:01
mwe!info libgl1-mesa12:02
ubotulibgl1-mesa: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is extra. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 488 kB12:02
moparfan90atze, what vid card you have?12:02
Przemcio1978nozorro: thanks, i'll try gthumb :)12:02
magnetmoparfan90: mwe answered :)12:02
nozorroPrzemcio1978: gthumb is a gnome app12:02
Sarra_I want to digitally enhance a few pictures I took with my 3 megapixel camera. How would I do so?12:02
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moparfan90thats already installed12:02
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Jack_SparrowSarra_: try gimp12:02
atzemoparfan:  Asus Videokaart PCI-e GeForce 6800GT 256MB DDR3 2xDVI/TV12:02
mcphailSarra_: use the GIMP12:02
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magnetbtw if you use proprietary drivers, they ship their own openGL lib (using hardware 3d acceleration)12:03
Jack_Sparrow!gimp12:03
ubotuAn advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.12:03
atzethis thing is driving me crazy12:03
crashdhmm, cinepaint won't install for some reason, complains about libopenexr, anyone got any clues?12:03
Przemcio1978nozorro: yes, i know12:03
moparfan90atze, o sry cant help i have a ATI12:03
=== Sarra_ will give GIMP a try, but doubts it's what she's looking for
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moparfan90sarra_, gimp is the same as photoshop12:03
mcphailSarra_: the GIMP is capable for any "enhancing" you need to do12:03
Jack_SparrowSarra_: What kind of enhancement?12:03
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Jack_SparrowSarra_: Gimp is excellent12:04
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geokokAnyone on popularity contest help????12:04
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Sarra_I took some pictures of distant objects, I'd like to enhance and magnify the pictures past the detail available in the pictures themselves12:04
Przemcio1978nozorro: both xfce and gnome are gtk2 base, there should be no problem about that12:04
mcphailSarra_: you can't12:04
ChaosFanSarra_: it's incredibly hard to get information that is nowhere...12:05
=== Sarra_ remembers seeing something on PBS that did just that
Przemcio1978nozorro: i mean gwenview loads on xfce quite long since it's qt-based, that's the only problem12:05
moparfan90why are you talking in 3rd person12:05
Sarra_Put a blurry image into a program that runs an algorythem on it, and it enhances it12:05
nozorroPrzemcio1978: yes of course, but some xfce fans prefer pure gtk2 apps ... that was my line of thinking12:05
mcphailSarra_: all you can do is run some interpolation routine, which will make the blockiness a bit smoother. It will _not_ give you any more detail12:05
Jack_SparrowSarra_: That is different12:05
atzemoparfan: i think that's the same bug, with ATI12:06
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labjHi! I'm new to Ubuntu and I've tried to get a Lexmark X73 combowriter to function together with Ubuntu, but no. Any suggestions?12:06
moparfan90atze, its not a bug .. i fucked it up.... i dont know how .. was messing with x org before12:06
atze:)12:06
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Garnetthello12:06
moparfan90i think im going to reinstall12:06
Garnetthelp please12:06
Grok_how long before we can expect to see Gnome 2.16 in the repositories?12:07
moparfan90just tell12:07
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Przemcio1978nozorro: we xfce fans haven't got much choice :)12:07
mcphailGrok_: it will not come into dapper12:07
moparfan90who not12:07
Przemcio1978Grok_, compile or wait for edgy :)12:08
Sarra_mcphail: Looks like you're wrong12:08
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Sarra_http://www.onlypunjab.com/real/fullstory1004-newsID-1357.html12:08
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Grok_mcphail, what would be the easiest way of going about getting it? will there be a .deb package for it?12:08
geokokIs there a way to check if popcon works???12:08
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nozorroPrzemcio1978: there are many other pic viewers, older apps and gtk2-based, but the features are somewhat limited (i remember qiv for instance)12:09
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tuxtuxciao12:11
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mcphailGrok_: wait for edgy12:11
ThatGuyis it possible to have both gnome and kde installed for ubuntu, and have the choice of the two when you login?12:11
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ZorlacGrok_: what do you grok?12:11
nozorroThatGuy: should be possible, selecting a kde/gnome session from gdm login12:12
nozorroThatGuy: ... or kdm login for that matter12:12
ZikeyDamn looked everywhere since few hours (net & files) and I don't find where to put binaries to be run at start-up, any one knows ?12:12
ThatGuydo i need just the kde base packages, or do I need to install kubuntu as well?12:12
Przemcio1978Grok_: get xfce 4.4 rc1 and you'll forget about gnome :)12:12
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Jack_SparrowThatGuy: Yes you can, I have Gnome, KDE and Ice available12:13
chris_do you guys field general linux questions12:13
mcphailSarra_: a poorly constructed press release != a working program or concept12:13
ThatGuyJack_sparrow:  what is the best way to do exactly that???12:13
Paddy_EIREanyone know how i can make shift+3 be the pound sign???12:13
nozorroThatGuy: if you just need some kde-based apps, install them using the packaging system, and they will pull in the necessary dependencies; you you need both desktops, i think you just have to install kubuntu-base12:13
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Jack_Sparrowmcphail: And they never say they actually identified the guy, just that their enhancement shows he might be.12:14
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mcphailJack_Sparrow: a google search for "fractal digital imaging" only brings up a dozen copies of that press release12:14
Jack_SparrowThatGuy: Someone wil know it.. something like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:14
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ThatGuythanks12:15
nozorroThatGuy: not kubuntu-base but kubuntu-desktop -- a metapckage which should pull in all the deps for kubuntu12:15
Jack_Sparrowmcphail: Agreed, fractals have been discussed for years..12:15
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iratsui don't see the graphical booting screen with the ubuntu logo when i boot my laptop, is that normal?12:16
jorikomg nooooo i just lost ALL my mail thx to goddamn fetchmail omg im crying12:16
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Jack_Sparrow!language12:16
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:16
chris_when i upgraded to edgy it removed my gedit...so i tried downloading the gedit source and compiling it from scratch.12:16
chris_However, ./configure errors out because pkg-manager reports that I don't have correct version number of some libraries.  On the command line "pkg-configure --modversion *this* returns a version higher than what I needed.12:16
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nozorroiratsu: what do you see instead?12:16
mwejorik: are you sure it didn't save it somewhere?12:16
HazarathJack_Sparrow, when ya get a chance, still need help with this networking stuffs...12:16
PathagenXlinux-686 is what, when concidering linux-2.6.15.26-686 ?12:16
mcphailchris_: join #ubuntu+112:16
chris_my ldconfig file is up to date so i don't know why i can't compile this program12:17
geokokIs there a way to check if popcon works???12:17
iratsunozorro: well it just boots up, printing all the stuff in the screen, but not in orange and without the ubuntu logo12:17
Jack_SparrowI was just headding out to take care of some other business, someone will help you shortly12:17
erUSULchris_: why do not just reinstall ubuntu-desktop (or gedit)?? (btw edgy is discused in #ubuntu+1)12:17
mcphailchris_: edgy is still alpha, expected to break and not supported on this channel12:17
nozorroiratsu: it did so once or every time you boot up?12:17
HazarathOk, still need help networking my ubuntu box to my Win XP box.12:17
iratsunozorro: every time12:18
Jack_SparrowHazarath: You were trying to access files on a networked computer correct..12:18
Jack_SparrowHazarath: Did you read up on samba..12:18
HazarathIt's installed, or suppoed to be.12:18
shut-can someone tell me how i can change from gnome12:18
Hazarath^suppoed12:18
iratsunozorro: i'm using lilo to boot instead of grub, maybe that has something to do with it?12:18
nozorroiratsu: maybe the boot process hangs at a specific point -- network devices for instance?12:18
shut-to a driffrent one12:18
HazarathI ran package manager12:18
Paddy_EIREhey guys this guy has the same bug as me https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1719 am I too supposed to post a bug if so how do i do it12:18
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HazarathIt just doesn't exist on my compy from what I can find.12:19
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erUSULPaddy_EIRE: if you have the same bug just confirm it with a coment to said bug12:19
Jack_Sparrow!samba12:19
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:19
iratsunozorro: no it doesn't hang, it just doesn't show the graphical stuff12:19
nozorroiratsu: oh lilo, do yourself a favour and use grub. if you use lilo and don't tell it about the boot splash, you won't have one of course. so that's the reason. why lilo anyway?12:20
shut-?12:20
TylerDurdenerhey, i changed every binary repository in synaptic to include restricted, official and community, but now it gives me a bunch of errors when i reload, how can i fix that?12:20
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cytrakdoes dd makes iso images ?12:20
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magnetno cytrak, mkisofs does12:20
ChaosFancytrak: yes, you could say so12:20
kevinGWhat's the command that lets me change permissions so I can write to a file?12:20
iratsunozorro: i'm running it on a macbook12:20
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Jack_SparrowTylerDurdener: Did you try to add any repos or just enable the ones from the original sources.list12:20
ChaosFancytrak: if you want to rip a cd12:21
iratsunozorro: and running grub on that is harder12:21
cytrakdvd12:21
shut-Jack12:21
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erUSULcytrak: yes if you read from a cdrom device so does cat (cat /dev/hdxx > image.iso)12:21
TylerDurdenerJack_Sparrow just enabled them from the synaptic GUI12:21
nozorroiratsu: ahmm, and lilo gets used there by default?12:21
shut-how can i change from gnome to anther one12:21
magnetkevinG: chmod +w file12:21
iratsunozorro: no, i had to set it up12:21
kevinGok12:21
magnetshut-: sudo apt-get install <what-you-want>-desktop12:21
iratsunozorro: the grub install failed12:21
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ChaosFancytrak: that could be done via dd or cat, yes12:21
magnet<what-you-want> being xubuntu or kubuntu12:21
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nozorroiratsu: hmmm, see.12:22
Jack_SparrowTylerDurdener: post your sources list to the pastebin so someone can look at it. I really need to go.. FYI... gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list12:22
shut-where can i find all of them12:22
erUSULshut-: another one? install kubuntu-desktop (KDE) or xubuntu-desktop (XFCE)12:22
PathagenXlinux-686 is what, when concidering linux-2.6.15.26-686 ?12:22
shut-ok12:22
magnetthere are 2 others so :) unless you want a desktop non supported by ubuntu (then there are plenty others)12:22
PathagenXdd if=<cdrom> of=file12:22
iratsunozorro: but anyways, the boot splash doesn't really change anything, i just wanted to make sure my installation wasn't incomplete or anything12:23
ChaosFanPathagenX: 686 is your architecture12:23
PathagenXyeaaa12:23
TylerDurdenerjack_sparrow http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2286312:23
magnetPathagenX: linux-686 is a dummy package12:23
PathagenXa meta package? So it just selects the newest kernel?12:23
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow>would you know how i could manually add the pound sign so it comes up when i press shift+3?12:24
magnetPathagenX: yes, and it's called a dummy package, not a meta package12:24
PathagenXwoo rtlinux oo12:24
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nozorroiratsu: if it's incomplete you sure will note in other ways in the future... do you get to the gdm login window?12:24
magnetit depends on what it will redirect you to12:24
PathagenXok. Thanks12:24
Jack_SparrowTylerDurdener: You used Automatix... there is a reason we DONT recommend using that script... Try your question in #Automatix12:24
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow>apart from that my system is extremely stable :)12:24
zax1why oh why did i ever swith to linux windows was so much easier......12:24
PathagenXand now to figure out how to reconfig grub.../12:24
magnetzax1: you're free to go back to windows12:25
iratsunozorro: yea everything else seems to work fine12:25
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Paddy_EIRE<zax1>believe me windows is not by any means easier12:25
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Jack_Sparrow!easysource > TylerDurdener12:25
Paddy_EIRE<zax1>basically Nazis12:25
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iratsunozorro: except wireless, but that seems to be pretty common for macbooks running linux12:25
TylerDurdenerjack_sparrow thanks12:25
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Jack_Sparrownp12:25
Jack_Sparrowbbl12:25
matthewjameswhere can I find ports.conf?12:25
zax1Paddy_EIRE: its a goodthing you are not proned to exagurations12:25
HazarathJack_Sparrow, I need a network to work first, before I can do what ya suggested.12:25
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TylerDurdenerjack_sparrow those errors occured after i checked all the sources in binaries in synaptic, why did it do that?12:26
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mcphailmatthewjames: for apache?12:26
magnetzax1: what's hard with what you call "linux"?12:26
nozorroiratsu: not only for macs ... my advice would be to stay with lilo atm and try to use grub later on when you have the time/nerve. its documented here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/12:26
matthewjamesyes12:26
zax1poor driver support12:26
mcphailmatthewjames: /etc/apache2/ports.conf12:26
Jack_SparrowTylerDurdener: Because Automatix.. added unsupported repos12:26
matthewjamesty alot man12:26
magnetzax1:  huh? it supports more stuff out of the box than windows12:27
Paddy_EIRE<zax1> read up on them and palladium at&t and vista spyware os...not exaggerations!12:27
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zax1magnet: that may be so but maybe not the drivers i need12:27
magnetzax1: now if you have some hardware coming with a driver CD for windows, complain to the hardware vendor12:27
Paddy_EIRE <zax1>anyway what do u expect for free!12:27
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Hazarathzax1, Found a lota stuff XP wouldn't.. my 6.1 sound card, WiFi, everythingf.12:27
zax1it doesnt support any usb adsl modem i have12:27
magnetPaddy_EIRE: all your arguments are wrong anyway :)12:27
magnetPaddy_EIRE: GNU/linux is just superior :)12:28
lassegshi, does anyone know if i can install the newest version of deskbar applet thats in gnome 2.16 on my gnome 2.14 dapper box?12:28
Paddy_EIRElol...yep12:28
magnetno need for Vista to have palladium :)12:28
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zax1Hazarath: maybe , but when u go to the manufacturer site u find an easy to use 2 clicks file 1 restart solution12:28
Paddy_EIRE<zax1> i had this prob...i learned the answer12:28
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nozorrozax1 can you connect any of those modems via ethernet too? in that case it should work12:28
Paddy_EIRE<zax1> dont use usb modems12:28
magnetzax1: yeah, because the manufacturer provides drivers for windows; complain to them12:28
Paddy_EIRE<zax1> get a LinkSyS and never look back12:29
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lupine_85Globespan USB ADSL modems work12:29
lupine_85apparently12:29
Hazarathzax1, wouldn't been able to get my NIC online by default, Win couldn't find, so... how was I able to get the drivers? :312:29
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zax1magnet: thats what i call easy( which is what u asked)12:29
Paddy_EIRE<lupine_85>speedtouch do aswell but setup aint worth the hastle.....LinkSyS and an ethernet card and your flying12:30
Hazarathzax1, You are fighting a loosing battle, Linux rules.12:30
HazarathSee ya'll.12:30
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zax1heheh- i aint fighting12:30
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zax1just experimenting12:30
magnetzax1: yeah but that's not anyhow ubuntu or linux's fault. Why did you install ubuntu in the first place if you had unsupported hardware ?12:30
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Jack_Sparrowzax1: There is a list of Linux/Ubuntu supported hardware...12:30
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berto-Hello.  With Ubuntu 5.10 I had trouble installing the system on an SATA drive, so I made my root disk an IDE drive.  Is this a problem with 6.06?  I'm about to build a new computer and was wondering if I should get an IDE drive12:31
zax1magnet: why not ? i wanted to see whats all the hype is all about12:31
Paddy_EIRE<zax1>i know, i was completely put off by the usb modem prob then i realized they are silly modems anyway why use them .....dont need to install any driver for ethernet12:31
cerberusI'm having trouble setting up a network between two ubuntu boxes. I've set up the netmask, adderss and network variables in /etc/network/interfaces on both machines but am still unable to ping either machine from the other. Does anyone know what else I need to do?12:32
magnetzax1: you can hardly understand "what the hype is all about" if you can't get a 100% functionnal system12:32
zax1i am a system builder and was contemplating switching my default os from xp to kubuntu/ubuntu12:32
ChaosFanberto-: i didn't have that kind of problem12:32
ChaosFanwith 6.0612:32
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Paddy_EIRE<zax1>you can get a great wifi ethernet router for 60pounds where i am and i can use it on any os and experiment all i want12:32
zax1but if its such a long and steap learning curve even for the 'experts' what can i expect from the masses who buy my computers12:32
cerberusberto-, I've not had that problem installing any version of ubuntu on a SATA drive12:33
zax1magnet: my point exactly12:33
ChaosFanzax1: choosing the operating system is a matter of personal needs and taste12:33
magnetcerberus: first, try using a graphical tool instead of editing the interfaces file manually, you'll avoid syntax errors12:33
nozorrozax1: the way i did it was to use a double-boot system. i started to like linux and over time bought hardware supported by linux whenever upgrading. nowadays everything works like a charm12:33
magnetcerberus: then, are you sure the two machines are plugged in the good ethernet plug? ;)12:33
cerberusmagnet, that's only an option on one machine, the other only has a server install12:33
zax1Paddy_EIRE: me too12:33
magnetcerberus: finally, we can look a the conf :)12:33
magnetok cerberus12:33
zax1here, btw, i thought eire is on a euro system12:33
BlueVoidHello-- I'm having difficulty with dual monitors.  I have a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with a secondary samsung monitor.  When I first installed ubuntu the display showed up on my laptop screen, then I installed the nVidia drivers (my card is an nVidia card), the screen only showed on my secondary monitor.  Is there a way to get it back to show on my laptop only, or idealy on both?12:33
DutchyIs there anyone who has got the HDA Intel sound working?12:34
zax1unless you are from the orphaned 6 counties up north12:34
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Paddy_EIRE<zax1>when u get ubuntu to a level of stability after a while and then u use windows you just feel dirty...lol12:34
magnetcerberus: paste your two files (and name the machines) on the pastebin and give the url12:34
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netsavy006Hi.12:35
magnethi netsavy00612:35
netsavy006does anybody here know of/how to use Chroot?12:35
magnetyep12:35
TylerDurdenerjack_sparrow ok i copy-pasted those repos from the website, and rechecked all the boxes in synaptic to add the restricted and non-free repos as well, reloaded and it gives me the errors again12:35
netsavy006good12:35
netsavy006you might be able to help me12:35
netsavy006I am using Chroot Dapper for testing purposes12:35
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berto-ChaosFan, cerberus: hmm, alright.  that's good news.  could it be that I had multiple drives in the machine and for some reason grub installed on the wrong one?  i've been googling this problem and have seen that scenario pop up.12:35
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netsavy006but I cannot get it to work correctly12:35
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magnetnetsavy006: what are you talking about precisely? chroot, the program (shell command), or chroot, the syscall?12:36
fokusleefokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~/sources$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.17.11.tar.bz2 /usr/src12:36
fokusleePassword:12:36
fokusleetar: /usr/src: Not found in archive12:36
fokusleetar: Error exit delayed from previous errors12:36
magnet!nopaste12:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:36
fokusleecan anyone help me with that?12:36
magnet!paste12:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:36
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cerberusmagnet, I've just pasted my config on the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2286712:36
netsavy006all I know is that I type chroot /chroot/dapper12:36
netsavy006as a chroot layer.12:36
Jack_SparrowTylerDurdener: Because Automatix.. probably already hosed up your system.. You need to ask them how to fix it...12:36
matthewjameshello, how enable ipv4?12:36
Paddy_EIRE<zax1>although i get a new isp in october and they use usb modems by default as there service requires sign in with username password so i expect this to work although im bitting my nails, although i will push on even without the net for a while if i have to12:36
berto-sorry, clicked the wrong thing ...12:36
magnetnetsavy006: what's your problem?12:36
magnetcerberus: 1 sec, i'm looking at it12:37
netsavy006when I try to install programs I get an erro12:37
netsavy006error12:37
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matthewjameshello, how enable ipv4?12:37
magnetcerberus: how are the two machines connected (physically)?12:37
zax1paddy try going for this : http://h.ip.fi/pics/tyttoe.jpg12:37
netsavy006I'm thinking I'll have to post the error as a file on the web to be read.12:37
cerberusthrough a cross over cable between the two ethernet cards12:37
netsavy006but I don't know whre to post such a thing.12:37
TylerDurdenerjack_sparrow it isnt automatix, its simply i guess because i already checked boxes that were checked in different locations (sources vs. binary) but im not sure which... at least thats what i think, automatix doesnt overwrite my sources everytime12:37
magnetmatthewjames: on which layer? kernel, userland, etc?12:37
Paddy_EIREanyone from the uk here that uses talktalk broadband as their isp??12:37
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matthewjamesfor an apache server12:37
magnetcerberus: ok so direct connec, lemme check12:37
magnetnetsavy006: here12:38
magnet!paste12:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:38
matthewjamesmagnet: for an apache server12:38
netsavy006k12:38
fokusleefokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~/sources$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.17.11.tar.bz2 /usr/src12:38
fokusleePassword:12:38
fokusleetar: /usr/src: Not found in archive12:38
fokusleetar: Error exit delayed from previous errors12:38
ripperim seeming to be missing my power button on ubuntu (its not a laptop)12:38
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fokusleewhat is wrong?12:38
magnetmatthewjames: just listen on all interfaces (Bind *)12:38
matthewjameshow?12:38
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magnetcerberus: what's your other machine configuration12:39
ripperi can go to system, and quit, but i cant seem to power the box down, or actually fully reboot it from there12:39
linuxunilhow can i check to see if dri is running12:39
magnetcerberus: (interfaces file)12:39
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modplughow do i enable direct rendering (nvidia)? - i've installed the driver as explained on ubuntuguide.org12:39
matthewjamesmagnet: how?12:39
magnet!apache12:39
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP12:39
magnetthat's how :)12:40
linuxunili have the drivers install i just don't think it's running and i used to know the command to check but i can't remember12:40
netsavy006here's where you will find my entery:12:40
netsavy006http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2286812:40
matthewjamesmagnet: thats what I installed12:40
magnetk netsavy006, 2 secs (and highlight me when you're talking to me)12:40
cerberuspretty much the same except address is set to 192.168.1.2 and there is none of the ppp0 stuff12:40
zax1Paddy_EIRE: talk talk require signing a contract with them12:40
Jack_SparrowTylerDurdener: I understand you r sources have been fixed.  But you did use Automatix to install things into your system correct. Those things they installed were not from the Ub repos... Now you have a problem that just fixing the repos will not cure12:40
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netsavy006magnet: k12:40
matthewjamesmagnet: when i give my ip address, it does not work12:40
magnetmatthewjames: installing is one thing, setting it up another :)12:40
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BlueVoidanyone?12:40
Paddy_EIRE<zax1>yeah 18 month, but virtually free broadband12:40
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nozorrofokuslee: not sure, but you could use Archive Manager with sudo to achieve what you want. also use pastebin please to show us larger outputs, its here:12:41
nozorro!pastebin12:41
matthewjameswhat do i needt to set up for apache?12:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:41
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magnetmatthewjames: you don't have to "give" your IP, it can find all active interfaces (*Host statement)12:41
tuxtuxnotte12:41
zax1virtualy free?12:41
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Jack_SparrowTylerDurdener: I wish you luck... I really, really need to get some work done12:41
TylerDurdenerjack_sparrow i actually just installed the program to take a look at it but didnt use it to install/download anything. well im at the automatix channel but no reply on how to remove it and the repos it made12:41
matthewjamesok, but what can i give my freinds to go to my site?12:41
TylerDurdenerjack_sparrow np, thanks for helping12:41
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Paddy_EIRE<zax1> and i can put the sign in details in the linksys so i should be up and running very quickly12:41
matthewjamesmagnet: ok, but what can i give my freinds to go to my site?12:41
magnetcerberus: should work then, are you sure it's a crossover cable?12:42
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Paddy_EIRE<zax1> http://www.talktalk.co.uk/talktalk/servlet/gben-LLU-PageServer;jsessionid=3D71345DC7C324AA5BE02630E41F748C.sol72-15?article=MAIN.UK.TALKTALK.STATIC.TESTHUB12:42
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magnetmatthewjames: your IP or an hostname (no-ip or such), but apache can find out your IP by itself12:42
cerberusmagnet, yes, I've sucessfully used it to link windows machines in past12:42
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magnetmatthewjames: can you access your apache webpage locally at least?12:42
matthewjamesi give my ip, no one can connect to it?12:42
matthewjamesyes12:42
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Paddy_EIRE<zax1>for 21 a month i cant go wrong that includes 02 nos and lots more12:43
magnetcerberus: ok you didn't forget sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart12:43
magnet?12:43
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astroglideanyone that knows how to use linux properly, please IM me12:43
cerberusnope, done that12:43
netsavy006seemings as I'm here (for anybody to answer):  are there any web browsing accelerating 'stuff' as either software or proxy for linux in general?12:43
magnetmatthewjames: are you behind a nat/router?12:43
netsavy006cuz I know they make google web accelerator for windows 2000/XP12:43
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jake1I'm trying to find a program that can convert Binary to Decimal and Hex...... any suggestions12:44
matthewjamesyes, i forwarded ports 22 and 8012:44
jake1Octal to Decimal would also be nice12:44
magnetcerberus: that's weird :) it should work; are you sure your ethernet cards are supported and functional?12:44
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nozorroastroglide: better post your question here, so others could profit from the discussion ...12:44
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modplughow do i enable direct rendering with my nvidia card? - the script doesn't work (on the ubuntuguide.com tutorial)12:44
netsavy006magnet: have you found anything yet re: chroot prob?12:44
matthewjamesmagnet: yes, i forwarded ports 22 and 8012:44
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magnetnetsavy006: a sec, i'm looking at it :)12:44
uberspacedI need some help configuring dhcp312:44
netsavy006k12:45
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uberspacedin /etc/default/dhcp3-server i have eth1 listed in the interfaces area12:45
fokusleetar: /usr/src: Not found in archive what is the problem with dat?12:45
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cerberusifconfig recognises them and I can see the one on the box with the full install using System -> Administration -> Networking12:45
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magnetnetsavy006: can you copy the url again please? I have the wrong one it seems12:45
Paddy_EIRE<zax1> did u see the talktalk then??12:45
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magnetcerberus: no iptables firewall?12:46
netsavy006magnet:  here it is:  >>   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2286812:46
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matthewjamesmagnet: yes, i forwarded ports 22 and 8012:46
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uberspacedand my dhcpd.conf is located here:12:46
cerberusthere is a firewall on the box with the full install, Firestarter12:46
magnetmatthewjames: got it the first time :)12:46
uberspacedhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2286912:46
matthewjamesmagnet: ?12:46
magnetcerberus: check if you don't have to put an exception for your lan12:47
sureshoti am sorry to not remember the name of the person that helped me but i wanted to think him  for his help i now have my laptop working like it should..  love ubuntu12:47
uberspacedI ran /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start12:47
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uberspacedand it just 'failed'12:47
magnetmatthewjames: well it should work, a sec12:47
matthewjamesmagnet: ok12:47
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magnetcerberus: netsavy006 ok I know what to do for your prob, a sec :)12:48
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netsavy006magnet: ok12:48
uberspaceddoes anybody know where dhcpd stores its log files?12:48
netsavy006magnet:  take your time12:48
ripperim missing a bunch of stuff in my gncof-editor12:48
magnetthanks!  :)12:48
ripperhow can i fix this?12:48
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mcphailmatthewjames: what does your /etc/apache2/ports.conf say?12:48
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matthewjamesports.conf aint in there12:48
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mcphailmatthewjames: are you running apache or apache2?12:49
magnetnetsavy006: what you want is launching synaptic from the chroot, right? you don't care for the locales problem yet (which is nothing, falling back to C local is not really a problem)12:49
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magnets/local/locale12:49
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iMeowi've got a bit of a question: i'm trying to create launchers on my desktop to start/stop XAMPP, but i'm not sure how to proceed.. i mean i created the launchers, they should work, but the only problem is that i have to be root to start/stop XAMPP.. so how do i make my launcher ask me for root password?12:49
magnetmatthewjames: are you using apache1 or apache2 ?12:49
iMeowinstead of just failing?12:49
matthewjamesmagnet: its in etc/cups.d12:49
netsavy006magnet:  yes but for some reason nothing will start up at all12:49
netsavy006cuz I get a display error too.12:49
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magnetmatthewjames: uh, cups.d and apache have nothing in common ;)12:49
netsavy006magnet:  (synaptic:21691): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:12:49
saealHey guys I have a quetions about ubuntu and resolutions12:50
nozorroiMeow: you just prepend 'gksu' to the command proper in the launcher config12:50
netsavy006magnet:  and I checked and gtk 1.2 and 2.0-0 are installed12:50
magnetnetsavy006: that's not "some reason", that's security :)12:50
matthewjamesmagnet: well it came in a bundle called apache friends12:50
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lassegshi, does anyone know if i can install the newest version of deskbar applet thats in gnome 2.16 on my gnome 2.14 dapper box?12:50
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saealI'm trying to get 1440x900 to work on my Radeon X1800XT gfx card.12:50
mcphailmatthewjames: and did you install apache from synaptic???12:50
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magnetnetsavy006: allow remote X connections with xhost in a shell from YOUR user (current display)12:50
iMeowthanks nozorro :)12:50
netsavy006magnet:  how do I do that?12:50
matthewjamesno, from a bundled download, that installed apache and mysql, and php at 1 time12:50
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magnetnetsavy006: the best is to allow only local connections (xhost +local)12:51
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ShdwShinobiHello, I got my wireless card working, but after I rebooted my computer, anything I try to get it to work won't work.12:51
mcphailmatthewjames: well, that's your problem then. Uninstall them12:51
netsavy006magnet: I get 'bad hostname local12:51
iqonwhat does it mean when i get a line like "?--------- ? ?     ?          ?          ? filename" when running ls -lah?12:51
magnetnetsavy006: yep I know sorry12:51
ShdwShinobiI have a PCI Dlink DWL-G51012:51
nozorroiMeow: strictly you're not using root passwd. with gksu but admin rights, which is the default on ubuntu12:51
netsavy006magnet:  that's ok12:51
magnetnetsavy006: well man xhosts to find it  or xhost + if you're behind a firewall ;)12:52
matthewjameswhy would that be the problem, the version works in linux on my friends, and on my windows?12:52
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magnetnetsavy006: xhost +localhost12:52
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mcphailmatthewjames: ubuntu has a very nicely set up apache2 in the repos, with init script control, a sane directory and user structure, and it actually _works_12:52
ripperhow do i get my shutdown button back?12:52
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ripper!shutdown12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
netsavy006magnet:  being added to access control list12:53
matthewjamesit have php with it?12:53
cerberusmagnet, boy do I feel like an idiot now, I added an exception for the other box's IP but that didn't work, disableing the firewall however allowed the connection12:53
saealI'm trying to get 1440x900 resolution to work on my Radeon X1800XT gfx card. After I install the fglrx driver12:53
netsavy006magnet:  now what do I do?12:53
fokuslee!tar: No archive found12:53
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ubotutar: GNU tar. In component main, is required. Version 1.15.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 506 kB, installed size 1784 kB12:53
magnetcerberus: hehe :) so problem solved, yeah12:53
mcphailmatthewjames: you can install php4 or 5 very easily, mysql, postgresql etc etc etc12:53
magnetnetsavy006: in the chroot shell, enter export DISPLAY=":0.0"12:53
nozorrosaeal: look here maybe:12:53
nozorro!fixres12:53
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:53
matthewjamesmagnet: 1 person said i dont have ipv4 enables, would that be it?12:53
magnetnetsavy006: then launch synaptic again, it should work12:53
fokusleehi can anyone help me with tar12:53
cerberusvery nearly, I just need to find a way to leave the firewall going but still be able to connect, but that's a different problem, thank you very much for your help12:53
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matthewjamesmcphail: 1 person said i dont have ipv4 enables, would that be it?12:53
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iMeownozorro: thank you, it is working :)12:53
netsavy006magnet:  do I need the quotes in the above statments?12:54
magnetmatthewjames: are you using your ubuntu box right now?12:54
magnetnetsavy006: no12:54
shut-hi gnome freak12:54
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TylerDurdenerwhere can i get the default synaptic repo list that?12:54
matthewjamesmagnet: yes12:54
mcphailmatthewjames: almost certainly not12:54
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magnetnetsavy006: what's between quotes12:54
kitchematthewjames: if you wanted to you could look up LAMP less headache12:54
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nozorroiMeow: np12:54
saealnozorro: what?12:54
magnetmatthewjames: so you DO have ipv4 enabled :)12:54
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matthewjamesmagnet: how tell?12:54
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Adam_GHello all. In Xubuntu with XFce, I'm able to bind key sequences to commands. Can this be done in gnome? If so, how?12:54
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magnetmatthewjames: you're connected to the freenode IRC server using tcp over ipv412:54
saeal!fixres12:54
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:54
profoX`how much memory do I need to install with the alternate cd ? 64MB ? 32MB?12:54
ShdwShinobiWould someone be able to help me with my wireless problems?12:54
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fokusleeanyone?12:55
uberspacedgoddammit, found the problem... when you put a space in "eth 1" the shit just 'fails'12:55
matthewjamesmagnet: ok, then yes :P12:55
uberspacedgah.12:55
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rafael_BRShdwShinobi i'd try to install network manager package12:55
nozorrosaeal: scroll up, look under the link for fixres i gave12:55
matthewjamesmagnet: could u remote control me and look at my box?12:55
skavengeAdam_G: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts12:55
mcphailmatthewjames: only the proper ubuntu apache, mysql and php packages are supported on this channel. They are excellent packages. I'd suggest you install them instead of the random bundle you have downloaded12:55
saealnozorro: thanks12:55
ripperok, could someone please tell me how i can make my shutdown button visible again when i hit quit?12:55
profoX`how much memory do I need to install with the alternate cd ? 64MB ? 32MB?12:55
profoX`?dm restart -- doesn't that have to be gdm restart ?12:55
magnetmatthewjames: if netsavy006's problem fixed, yep12:55
ripperi lost that and my restart button12:55
matthewjamesmagnet: ok12:55
ShdwShinobirafael_BR, it's installed12:56
rafael_BRis it possible to drag a window from a desktop into another using mouse?12:56
magnetmatthewjames: wait a sec, and I won't spend more than 5 mins on it, would I succeed or not12:56
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Adam_Gskavenge, that's not it. I want to be able to actually define the command12:56
harisundWhat's the advantage behind running Linux as Virtual machines? Why do some users migrate production servers to VMs?12:56
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magnetso I don't guarantee anything :)12:56
matthewjamesmagnet: start a priv chat when rdy ok?12:56
magnetok12:56
netsavy006magnet:  can you put the display thing in again?12:56
matthewjamesk12:56
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magnetnetsavy006: export DISPLAY=":0.0"12:56
ShdwShinobiWhen I run 'sudo lshw -C network' It says my wireless card is unclaimed.12:56
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magnetmatthewjames: you need those quotes :)12:56
Adam_Gskavenge, like, control+pause->"mpc toggle"12:56
netsavy006there are quotes in between :0.012:56
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netsavy006magnet: is the : before 0.0 needed?12:57
fokusleecan someone help me with tar?12:57
magnetyep12:57
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harisundyes fokuslee ?12:57
matthewjamesmagnet: what quotes?12:57
magnetyou need the full string :)12:57
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magnetmatthewjames: i'm talking to netsavy00612:57
rippercan anyone see what im typing?12:57
fokusleeharisund i get an error like this12:57
harisundfokuslee: either pm me or paste it somewhere, not here.12:57
fokusleetar:  /usr/src NO archive found12:57
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rafael_BRis it possible to drag a window from a desktop into another using mouse like xfce does? any1?12:57
matthewjamesmagnet well it poped up as me?12:57
fokusleeok12:57
harisundfokuslee: are you trying to tar something or untar an existing compressed file?12:57
edjuSomething keeps polling devices - cd drive - and shows failures in /var/log/meessages.  What is that? And how do I stop it?12:57
ripperi've asked a question, and nobody has even replyed with a no we cant help you12:57
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fokusleeyeah12:57
magnetmatthewjames: woops then12:58
magnet:)12:58
netsavy006magnet:  I have to re-download and re-install synaptic because I removed it after the problem occured. (in chroot)12:58
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rafael_BRripper whats your question again?12:58
Adam_Gripper, I can see your typing :)12:58
matthewjamesmagnet: kk12:58
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ripperok12:58
fokusleefokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~/sources$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.17.11.tar.bz2 /usr/src12:58
fokusleePassword:12:58
fokusleetar: /usr/src: Not found in archive12:58
fokusleetar: Error exit delayed from previous errors12:58
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ripperi dont have a shutdown button when i click quit in the system menu12:58
harisundfokuslee: I asked you not to paste here....12:58
rippernor do i have a restart button12:58
pianoboy3333Is there a way to get .TiVo files transcoded to avi files?12:58
fokusleei don't have a pm option12:58
harisundfokuslee: anyway ... Try doing a -C ... as in sudo tar ....... -C /usr/src12:58
rafael_BRripper i dunno how to add it to your menu again but u can also add it into your panel with the add remove applet thingy12:58
harisundfokuslee: of course you do :) It is just /msg harisund whatever you want to message :)12:59
fokusleedoes that creat /usr/src?12:59
mcphailfokuslee: you still have a pastebin option12:59
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harisundfokuslee: if it doesn't, just do sudo mkdir /usr/src and then do the tar, with -C /usr/src12:59
fokusleeok hold on12:59
ripperheh12:59
rippersame thing12:59
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ripperi have the quit button12:59
ripperbut no option to shutdown or reboot01:00
rafael_BRripper you mean when u click it u got no shutting down option?01:00
fokusleeoh sweet01:00
fokusleethat did the trick01:00
ripperyes01:00
harisundfokuslee: :)01:00
fokusleewhat does the C flag do?01:00
ripperthat would be correct01:00
rafael_BRripper and what do you get?01:00
fokusleeand how do i pm someone?01:00
harisundfokuslee: -C gives the destination folder.01:00
nmrmrafael i use a program called brightside to do that01:00
fokusleei c i c01:00
ripperhibernate switch user or log off01:00
fokusleethx01:00
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mcphailripper: i take it you have installed xgl/compiz?01:00
fokusleeand how do i pm pplz/01:00
rafael_BRnmrm really? is it available on the repositories?01:00
ripperno i havent01:00
fokusleei just started all linux thing01:00
fokusleesoo new01:01
nmrmyes01:01
Rafa_brzcan I run "Kdevelop" using gnome?01:01
magnetnetsavy006: tell me if it's ok01:01
harisundfokuslee: I think you need to have registered your nick on freenode. Then you can start a new converstaion window with someone by typing in /msg nickname message01:01
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harisundfokusless what are you using to chat?01:01
fokusleeoh01:01
ripperi'd like to have a gfx card that would support xgl/compiz01:01
fokusleexchat01:01
netsavy006magnet:  ok. I will report once the install finishes.01:01
harisundfokuslee:  I just sent you a private message.01:01
fokusleei only started using irc for ubuntu01:01
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fokusleeyeah i didn't get anything01:01
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s3tuphotmail is down ?01:01
rafael_BRripper try logging out and shutting your pc down within gdm01:02
fokusleei think im gonna register my nick01:02
rafael_BRripper until you find a way out of that01:02
fokusleemaybe dat will help01:02
Rafa_brzcan I run "Kdevelop" using gnome???01:02
jon_elHi I need help with compiz - anyone?01:02
fokusleethx thou harisund01:02
mcphailripper: those are the options you get if running xgl. Hmm.01:02
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magnetnetsavy006: ok01:02
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habeebDo you know how to add syntax highlighting in emacs, for python? :/01:02
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rippercant shut it down with gdm either01:02
rippertried that already01:02
rafael_BRripper can't u? which ubuntu are you runnin'?01:02
nozorroRafa_brz: should be no problem at all -- apart from lacking integration with gnome desktop01:03
ripperLinux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:40:32 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux01:03
rafael_BRmmmm... dapper i guess01:03
ripperyep01:03
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Paddy_EIREis the #gimp channel always kinda dead??01:03
ripper6.06.101:03
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ripperi havent installed edgy yet, nor do i really want to01:04
magnetmatthewjames: still here?01:04
rafael_BRripper u may want to try 'sudo halt' in a terminal window01:04
Rafa_brznozorro:  Have you ever used kdevelop or Anjuta?01:04
ripperumm thats not going to fix my problem01:04
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matthewjamesmagnet: yes, hey, does xchat use the soundcard?01:04
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ripperi want my menu's to work, thats not going to fix them01:04
nozorroRafa_brz: nope01:04
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ripperthat will just power the box down01:04
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Paddy_EIRE<ripper>yeah u should wait my comps stable as hell right now and i dont want anything messing that up wait for the official release01:04
rafael_BRripper i can't figure out your problem.. has the icons disappeared or never existed?01:04
Rafa_brznozorro: I'd like to know wich is the best one...01:04
magnetmatthewjames: what's that supposed to mean? should it play sounds you mean? it may yep, depends on your configuration01:05
ripperit was there when i had breezy01:05
KuprinHey guys - what happened to all the packages referenced in RestrictedFormats? Did a whole pile of things change? I'm getting a "no download candidate" error for a lot of things like gstreamer0.10-ugly01:05
ripperi upgraded to dapper, and it went away01:05
matthewjamesim in priv01:05
cerberusmagnet, just incase you wanted to know, I've fixed up the firewall and now have everythnig working perfectly, thanks again for you help01:05
nozorroRafa_brz: no idea, really. you can try both though :-)01:05
rafael_BRripper try creating a new account and check if it's right there01:05
magnetok cerberus nice; np :)01:05
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matthewjamesmagnet: im in priv01:06
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nozorro!ops01:06
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!01:06
ripperthis is an admin account.01:06
profoX`lol and now he's here01:06
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cappicardwtf01:06
Hobbseegot him01:06
Arbitero.O01:06
ripperand i cant shutdown or reboot from the menu01:06
Kragneracwtf?01:06
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archangelpetro?01:06
profoX`he goes around many channels :/01:06
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Kragneracstupid cracker01:06
nightfreakhi all, i have a problem with mysql, the innodb starage engine is disabled by default and i dont know why, no innodb related configuration variable is set and it should be enabled by default. i think it could be a ubuntu related issue01:06
profoX`that helldragon noob01:06
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MalnilionWow, that's ridiculous.01:06
HellDragonprofoX`, :(01:06
rafael_BRripper have you tried alacarte to edit your menu?01:06
cello_raspa hell ... dragon?????01:06
HellDragonim getting impersonated01:06
Hobbseepretty stupid, to go and ping the ops in the list of names.....*shakes head*01:06
profoX`HellDragon: lol01:06
rafael_BRoh no.. nevermind ripper01:07
HellDragontheres like 5 imitaters on #freenode-social01:07
HellDragon:(01:07
ripperhave you looked at alacarte? it doesnt contain anything like that for the system menu01:07
jvaihey erbody, what's goin on w/ the debian channel, i couldnt connet01:07
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magnetmatthewjames: you don't answer queries01:07
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bbraziljvai: it changed network01:07
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javaJakeHello01:07
jvaioo01:07
rafael_BRripper nevermind.. my mistake ;)01:07
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javaJakeI'm trying to install PHP4 into Apache201:07
bbraziljvai: try ##debian here01:07
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Kragneraclol01:07
Kragneracrofl01:07
javaJakeI ran sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-php01:07
ripperthis is grand, i dont know why this happend01:07
magnetjavaJake: libapache2-mod-php401:08
javaJakeBut all I get is a blank page01:08
magnetfor apache201:08
javaJakeDuh01:08
javaJakethanks01:08
rippermakes me wanna punch my box01:08
matthewjamesmagnet: is that why then?01:08
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jvaiwho got all those mad !53! updates last nyte?01:08
rafael_BRripper hey.. there is an option to select what are the stuff you want in the shutdown window01:08
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jvaii did, on hoary-security01:08
magnetmatthewjames: huh, don't you want me to have a look at your set up? or not :)01:08
ripperwhere?01:08
rafael_BRripper i can't remember where it is though..01:08
matthewjames: yes, private chat man01:08
rafael_BRripper go through your adm settings01:08
magnetmatthewjames: yeah well you're not answering01:08
rafael_BRripper even through preferences01:08
matthewjames..?01:09
jvaii forgot how to use xp!!01:09
KuprinLOL01:09
matthewjamesyes i am, and i see u typig01:09
jvaisnaap01:09
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kmiloLOL01:09
rafael_BRlol01:09
rafael_BRgod bless you/!!!01:09
matthewjamesechooooo01:09
matthewjamessaw it01:09
magnetmatthewjames: well you're invisibly answering then :)01:09
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matthewjamesand typed back01:09
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=== aztracker1 shudders... not able to forget XP.. stuck with it in VM for a few things.. :(
matthewjameshow chnage it?01:09
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magnetmatthewjames: wait, maybe it's on my end01:09
fokusleethis is stupid but how do i register my nick with freenode?01:09
matthewjamesok01:09
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^Ocean^is there a way to change the webcam setting for flash applications.  Because eveytime i use my webcam in a flash application it makes the image super zoomed in compared to any of the other applications i use...01:09
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sebastian929hey when i disable amd cool n quiet ubuntu doesnt boot up01:09
jvaignome 2.16 is out 2 play01:10
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bruenigfokuslee, looks like this /msg nickserv register password01:10
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bruenigput your own password01:10
sebastian929how cna i disable it and make ubuntu boot up?01:10
javaJakeIt is STILL blank.........01:10
fokusleethx bruenig01:10
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nozorroripper: try playing with the power management options to get your button back, there's a bug somewhere in the p.m. modules i believe01:10
magnetmatthewjames: oh noes it's on yours; it's freenode's anti spam protection, you have to register your nickname01:10
javaJakemagnet, the page is still blank even after isntalling what you mentioned01:10
rafael_BRjvai are there any repositorie for gnome 2.16? do you know any?01:10
KuprinCan anyone check if the default repos are borked for multiverse right now? I'm trying to set up the stuff in RestrictedFormats, and nothing's working. I keep getting the "package is not available, but is referenced by another package. Missing/obsoleted/othersource etc" ...what might be wrong?01:10
matthewjamesok, um, u have aim, or msn?01:10
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magnetjavaJake: well at least php4 is installed in apache2 :)01:10
javaJakemagnet, and I did restart apache using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart01:10
magnet!apache201:10
ubotuapache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB01:10
magnet!apache01:10
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP01:10
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magnetjavaJake: see those tuts01:11
magnetmatthewjames: no01:11
matthewjamesmagnet: ok well, how can u romte me?01:11
javaJakeI do not want to install php501:11
javaJakeI heard baad things about it01:11
magnetmatthewjames: romte?01:11
matthewjamesremote desktop*01:11
rafael_BRBitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - Linux 2.6.15-26-38601:11
magnetjavaJake: PHP is a bad thing on its own, no matter what version it is :)01:12
rafael_BRgot to love biatchx01:12
ripperrafael lemme have a shell on your box01:12
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jvaii dont think so @rafael, & i'm on hoary still01:12
jvaihoary = 2 versions down from dapper01:12
jvaibut staaaable01:12
sebastian929no one knows how to disable cool n quiet?01:12
magnetmatthewjames: no remote desktop, remote shell; install openssh-server01:12
javaJakemagnet, and why is that!?01:12
matthewjameswith what, apt-get install?01:12
magnetjavaJake: I'd love to discuss about it but it'd took all the night ;)01:12
rafael_BRholly bully! u still run hoary??? not even breezy?01:12
rafael_BRi'm a compulsive updater01:12
rafael_BRlol01:12
rafael_BRmy apt-get will never be retired01:13
sebastian929??01:13
matthewjamesmagnet: installing it now01:13
ripperrafeal_BR you should hook me up with a shell, and ill show you why not to use BitchX01:13
javaJakemagnet, still nothing01:13
magnetok matthewjames01:13
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jvainope, & i got the hoary dvd from a linux mag, got beat up learning it, & now i'm n lub01:13
rafael_BRripper no way dood :)01:13
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matthewjamesmagnet: done01:13
magnetjavaJake: well even if the wiki page is for php5, it's almost the same for php4 so use it as an info01:13
rafael_BRripper if u want in u gotta figure out how :)01:13
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rippernasty lil local root exploit for BitchX :D01:13
jvaii got the dapper 6.06.1 iso in my home folder01:14
magnetmatthewjames: register your nickname on freenode so you can give me credentials to log into your machine (/msg Nickserv HELP register)01:14
ripperi could brute force ssh if your running it01:14
magnetripper: I'd love you to :)01:14
rafael_BRwell bro.. u can try anything and there's nothing i could do against u.. only pray lol01:14
ripperi just want my power button fixed01:15
matthewjamesmagnet: i typed it and nothing happened01:15
ripperthis is ticking me off01:15
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jvaihydra * john r outdated in the repos :(01:15
magnetripper: (but then I'd have to call the police oh noooo ;))01:15
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habeebDo you know how to add syntax highlighting in emacs, for python? :/01:15
magnetmatthewjames: look at your status window01:15
ripperi dont deal with cops to well01:15
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matthewjamesk01:15
ShdwShinobirafael_BR, Network Manager is installed... (was installed before I set up my wireless) but I have no idea how to get to it01:15
magnetripper: hehe :)01:15
saealI'm back, with no luck.01:15
rafael_BRShdwShinobi alt+f2 then type the program which u wanna run01:15
ripperthis power button issue is horrid01:16
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saealIt tried switching to the ATI instead of versa but it gives me a "No device found"01:16
magnetripper: isn't it a hardware problem?01:16
sebastian929does anyone here know how to disable cool n quiet on ubuntu?01:16
matthewjamesmagnet: im noob with irc, what is the status window?01:16
rafael_BRripper isn't it due to personal settings? have you tried another accounts?01:16
magnetmatthewjames: the window with the network name01:16
ShdwShinobiit only lists 'network-admin'01:16
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matthewjamesrgr, kk01:16
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rafael_BRShdwShinobi and by the way network manager is not the standard network tool which comes with ubuntu out of the box01:17
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matthewjamesREGISTER lupus1201:17
nozorrosaeal: does your ati card appear in the ouput of 'lspci'?01:17
rafael_BRhah01:17
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ShdwShinobiI know, I selected and installed it via Add/Remove Programs01:17
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jorikIs it possible to run your own IMAP server? I'm looking for a setup where i can create IMAP accounts on my computer and associate them with multiple IMAP/POP3 accounts I have on the web and _filter_them_for_spam_.01:17
nozorroripper: try disabling power management (options)01:17
rafael_BRmmm ic01:17
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magnetyep jorik of coursez01:18
Milk_ello01:18
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rafael_BRShdwShinobi can't u get connected with the wireless card?01:18
ripperhow could i disable power management?01:18
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Milk_anyone here use streamtuner/ripper?  I can not seem to get it to rip from live365 stations01:18
matthewjamesmagnet: k, i how do password01:18
magnetjorik: for what you want, you need to use fetchmail + imap01:18
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sebastian929no one here knows how to disable cool n quiet in ubuntu?01:18
saealnozorro: it says "Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown Device 7120" I just switcyhed back to versa, I tried ATI option before.01:19
bruenigsebastian929, what is cool and quiet?01:19
magnetmatthewjames: password what? I gave you the command to get help on registering your nickname, join #help for details01:19
jorikmagnet: which imap-server should i use for that?01:19
nozorrosaeal: System -> Prefs -> Power Management, and Session (disable gnome-power-manager).01:19
ShdwShinobirafael, I cannot connect to the wireless card. the only time it shows up is when I type sudo lschw -C network01:19
matthewjamesk01:19
magnetjorik: i use courier-imap-ssl01:19
bsdfoxsebastian929, disable it in the bios01:19
sebastian929when i disable it in bios01:19
sebastian929ubuntu starts then hangs on boot01:19
jorikcool ill check it out01:19
saealnozorro: that will fix my resolutions problem?01:19
b14ck73425i was reading different stories on linux today and i came across this one http://decidere.blogspot.com/2006/09/cutting-off-windows.html how to i get the desktop at the end?01:19
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rafael_BRShdwShinobi mmmm.. i'm sorry but i can't help you any further since i've never had wireless networks at home01:19
magnetjorik: courier-imap is the same without ssl (sometimes the ssl port is blocked)01:19
ShdwShinobiOk01:20
ShdwShinobithanks anyways :)01:20
bruenigb14ck73425, the cube?01:20
b14ck73425yeah01:20
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rafael_BRShdwShinobi but... if i was to setup one of these u would firstly go to network tools and set the ips etc then run network manager01:20
b14ck73425what is it01:20
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nozorrosaeal: not sure, but one can specify BusID in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:20
jorikmagnet: but then i have to create a maildir for each user, right ?01:20
bruenig!ubotu tell b14ck73425 about xgl01:20
magnetjorik: i also use imapproxy and squirrelmail to get a webmail based on imap, and maildrop or procmail to filter mails properly when you receive them01:20
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jake1i just downloaded the Ubuntu alternative cd from the website01:20
saealnozorro: what would I set the busID to?01:20
jorikyeah i was thinking of using procmail too01:20
magnetjorik: when you mean user you mean "people" or your logins?01:20
b14ck73425thank you01:20
joriklogins on kubuntu01:21
jorikwait no01:21
rafael_BRi want gnome 2.16!!! :(01:21
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jake1now i'm curious can i use the iso instead of the cd when synaptic asks me to insert the CD01:21
jake1?01:21
bruenigcompile it!!! :)01:21
rafael_BRbut i can't bother compiling it01:21
ShdwShinobiWell, i'm not seeing how network manager works... it just adds an icon to my system tray01:21
jake1kinda like a virtual disk01:21
joriki mean ... say i still want, for some reason, two IMAP logins on my own server01:21
jake1and if so how would i go about doing that01:21
rafael_BRno compiling stuff in my linux box for god's sake!01:21
magnetyeah jake1, just mount the iso01:21
jake1i'm not quiet sure how to mount it01:21
ripperwell stopping acpi did no good01:21
rafael_BRjake1 mount -o loop /dev/hdb /mount_point01:22
magnetjake1: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /mount01:22
magnet-loop too yep :)01:22
matthewjamesmagnet: ok i am registered now what?01:22
nozorrosaeal: gimme the one line from lspci which refers to the ati card01:22
jake1there should just be a graphical tool for it01:22
rafael_BRjake1 indeed01:22
magnetmatthewjames: now we can talk privately :) try pm'ing me01:22
jorikcause it looks to me if you work with maildirs you need one for each login to the server (so you need a user on you kubuntu system too). no ?01:22
matthewjamesk01:22
rafael_BRjake1 there should be someone complaining that on ubuntu forums either01:22
jake1huh?01:22
b14ck73425have you ever used it01:23
rafael_BRjake1 you can always setup a nautilus script for such a purpose01:23
magnetjorik: yeah, but why would you do that?01:23
saealnozorro: 0000:06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologeies Inc: Unknown Device 712001:23
linuxunili'm getting an error about broken pipes when fixing compiz packages01:23
magnetjorik: I understood you want to import mails from different servers to ONE imap server on your ubuntu box01:23
nozorroripper: scroll up for power managment tip i gave to saeal erroneously01:23
linuxunilcan some one help01:23
magnetjorik: and if you want, you can have multiple logins for ONE Maildir01:23
nozorrosaeal: pls. wait a sec01:24
rafael_BRsamba's giving me a headache01:24
saealnozorro: k01:24
rafael_BRerhm... window's01:24
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b14ck73425have you ever used it?01:24
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ripperi dont have a session option01:25
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jon_elCan anyone help me with compiz?01:25
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jorikmagnet: i think i need to rtfm a bit more ... bb01:25
jorikl01:25
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b14ck73425bruenig, have you ever used the cube01:25
javaJakemagnet, OK, now my browser wants to download the php file. I have the php5 module loaded. What could go wrong!?01:26
bruenigb14ck73425, no01:26
magnetok jorik, i'll be away for 5 mins01:26
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wtfpwntotally01:26
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magnetjavaJake: many things, content-type for one thing :)01:26
hodgesOkay, total linux newbie here with a question that is driving the crap outta me.  Been searching on the forum and getting so many options, i feel somewhat overwhelmed.  I have installed the AMD64 Ubuntu dapper drake version and am having some issues with flash and geting it to work.  I tried flash player 7 from adobes website and it says it does not support amd64.  How could i get flash player to work correctly with an AMD64, or, would you01:26
hodges NOT reccomend using AMD64 and just installing an x86 version?  Any help would be extremely amazing01:26
javaJake:P01:26
bruenigb14ck73425, don't know if what ubotu sent you had this but go to #ubuntu-xgl if you are seriously interested01:26
nozorrosaeal: still ooking for a document, pls. wait01:26
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fokusleeim compiling the new kernel it ask me if i need relay01:26
magnetjavaJake: does it want to download the SOURCE or the OUTPUT ?01:26
saealnozorro: thank you, I can wait01:26
fokusleedo i need it if i have amd64?] 01:26
b14ck73425well i dont think that i could support it anyway my vid card is crap01:26
javaJakemagnet, source01:26
Paddy_EIREwhere can I get the templates that are supposed to be in my right click options??01:26
Kuprinhodges: Flash player is totally unsupported. I'd recommend running the x86 version like I am. You could also just set up Wine, and use Firefox-win32 and the Windows flash player.01:27
magnetjavaJake: ok that means that PHP doesn't process the file, have you the AddHandler directive in your apache conf?01:27
bruenighodges, there is no native support for flash or java on amd64, you can use a 32 bit version of firefox and get it to work pretty well. Pretty sure there is a how to and script for that on the forums01:27
magnetjavaJake: you should have a look at the tutorial, it also gives help on php4 :)01:27
javaJakeI have01:27
Rufflesis gnome 2.16 already available for download on edgy's repositories?01:27
javaJakeOr, the wiki at least01:27
magnetok01:27
hodgeskuprin: and bruenig, thanks a bunch guys, I think I may just go try x86 version, it looks like a lot more support is with that.01:28
Paddy_EIRE!templates01:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about templates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:28
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Kuprinhodges: that's what I recommend if you want multimedia support right now. Wine is good for it though, if you wanted to you could run an amd64 set up and a lot of things in Wine...but you're still going to be very slow with 32-bit apps. x86 may be a lot faster for you. At least it's better than XP64? :p01:28
javaJakemagnet, I have not added that handler01:28
javaJakeWhat is the syntax?01:28
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magnetwell I hate helping with software config since there is so many documentation out there and that's it takes time so you should look on php.net (install howto)01:28
javaJakemagnet, IOW, what do I punch in? :P01:29
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RufflesLOL01:29
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Rufflescan't install debian ahahah01:29
magnetjavaJake: :) seriously, look on php.net, it's all written there :)01:29
saealnozorro: if it helps, I'm using a 64 bit processor, Radeon X1800 Saphire vid card.01:29
javaJakeOK01:29
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edjuSomething keeps polling devices - cd drive - and shows failures in /var/log/meessages.  What is that? And how do I stop it?01:29
fokusleerelayfs is only for multi core processor rite?01:29
jvai_i lost my conection01:29
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Rufflesripper so? any luck yet?01:30
Paddy_EIREdoes anyone have the 'Create Document' Templates installed in the right click menu???01:30
jvai_i do in hoary @ paddy01:31
jvai_did ubuntu reconstruct the right clik menu?01:31
jvai_in dapper?01:31
Paddy_EIRE <jvai_>is this not working in dapper yet01:31
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ripperno luck no01:32
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jvai_wow, ppl were complaining bout that in the gnome 2.16 disscusion on /.01:32
Paddy_EIRE<jvai_> been asking this question for quite a while now i dont think anyone using Dapper does01:32
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red_oneare ubuntu release still tied to gnome releases?01:33
acidjazzhow come in ubuntu if i change the userlevel in /etc/inittab to 3 (which it usually is at default) it still loads xubuntu login screen upon boot?01:33
bruenigred_one, in theory01:33
jvai_paddy, u read slashdot? look @ the gnome 2.16 discussion01:33
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Paddy_EIREk01:33
brian98Paddy_eire: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/57006 any good?01:33
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bruenigred_one, edgy comes out next month, latest gnome was this month. So assuming they are given an appropriate time to get it integrated, I would say that is synched up with gnome's release01:34
javaJakeYES!01:34
javaJakemagnet, thanks!01:34
jvai_lol01:34
shayanis there an apt-get way to upgrade gnome?01:34
javaJakemagnet, it now works!01:34
red_onebruenig: righto, thanks01:34
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nozorrosaeal: argh, the numbers shown by lspci must be converted into decimal for inclusion into xorg.conf. now if i knew how to do this ... anyway you could try disabling any bus id already set in xorg.conf and see whether it gets detected automatically01:34
magnetjavaJake: np ;)01:34
javaJake:P01:34
fokuslee!scaleMP01:34
javaJakeBye everyone01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scaleMP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:34
ripperthis si suckin'01:34
shayanis there an apt-get way to upgrade gnome?01:35
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crimsunbruenig: ubuntu releases are synced with the first point release of a gnome releases01:35
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mcphailacidjazz: ubuntu doesn't pay too much attention to runlevels01:35
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saealnozorro: okay, so remove the bus id and then restard gdm?01:35
saealnozorro: err xserver?01:35
aumhow do i (in ubuntu gnome) set up compound hotkeys for launching apps - eg, Alt-Win-X for X-chat?01:35
ToHellWithGAi'm having a problem with gnome.  my panel does not display the running programs and i cannot click any of the icons in the panel to get an effect.01:35
diego_clis there any new driver for NTFS writing ???01:35
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acidjazzmcphail: so what does ubuntu pay attention to? how do i stop X from starting up upon boot01:36
Paddy_EIRE<brian98>so this cant be fixed, what is with the empty templates folder in my home director01:36
saealnozorro: or should i remove busid then reconfigure xserver?01:36
nozorrosaeal: try disabling it if there's any already set (?) -- hope it doesn't throw you out of xserver altogether.01:36
brian98paddy_eire: I haven't really played with it, I'm sure it's possible.. Let me have a look...01:36
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nozorrosaeal: you could also look for any relevant output in /var/log/X.*.log01:37
saealnozorro: the bus id is set to PCI:6:0:0, the card btw is pci-express01:37
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matthewjamesmagnet: ?01:38
magnetrhu01:38
bruenigaum, I use xbindkeys01:38
magnetrwhat the hell :) i hate xchat01:38
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nbjaymehello ppl. linux and multimedia : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7372042969052170899&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en   (using ubuntu gnu linux, problem with google is that it does not go to 1 : 33 ).01:39
aumbruenig, thx01:39
magnetrI have a connec to the serv but Xchat doesn't see it anymore ;)01:39
matthewjamesmagnetr: lol01:39
brian98paddy_eire: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241677 should work.....#01:39
magnetrwait a sec01:39
nozorrosaeal: well i gues i'm really not sure. anyway the above was based on the assumption that you've already tried any hints from that link. sorry01:39
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matthewjamesmagnetr: np man01:39
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aumfeels to me the biggest virtue of ubuntu over debian is its superlative packaging and desktop integration01:39
saealnozorro: thanks, could you give me the link agian?01:39
magnetok01:40
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matthewjamesok01:40
magnetnow how am I supposed to kill an invisible connection? :) brb01:40
jvai_wow01:40
matthewjameslol01:40
nozorrosaeal: just look out for when i give the fixres command here in the channel:01:40
nozorro!fixres01:40
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:40
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matthewjameshey for ipv4 it says broadcast is 192.168.1.255, is that what i should forward to?01:41
nozorrosaeal: ok?01:41
saealnozorro: so there isn't really anyway I can just force it to use a resolution, I tried using aticonfig --resolution 0,[resolutions]  but xserver just crashes on reastart01:41
matthewjamesmagnet :hey for ipv4 it says broadcast is 192.168.1.255, is that what i should forward to?01:41
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jastarafiHello01:41
Pntklhi01:41
Steilwhats the default keyboard layout ubuntu will install with?01:41
Pntkldunno01:41
jastarafi?01:41
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bruenigSteil, US01:41
magnetmatthewjames: no01:41
bruenigor American or whatever it is called01:41
matthewjamesmagnet: ok, then what?01:41
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Steilbruenig: what is it called in the xorg.conf?01:41
nozorrosaeal: maybe try in the forums, you'll reach more people with similar problems/hardware, and your question is "sticky" so to speak01:42
bruenigthat is what the graphical selection was called01:42
acidjazzhow come in ubuntu if i change the userlevel in /etc/inittab to 3 (which it usually is at default) it still loads xubuntu login screen upon boot?01:42
saealnozorro: Okay, thank you for your help today01:42
acidjazzbasically how do i stop ubuntu from using xubuntu upon boot/etc01:42
bruenigSteil, you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to change your keyboard by selecting it from a list, much simpler01:42
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magnetmatthewjames: I don't know, maybe, it depends on your lan address01:42
matthewjamesmagnet:?01:43
nozorrosaeal: and btw you can force resolutions but in the first place we want it to use the correct driver -- which is not your case if you have vga01:43
magnetbrb01:43
matthewjameskk01:43
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saealnozorro: so it's using the wrong driver?01:43
magnetok01:43
magnetxchat really sucks01:43
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magnetmatthewjames: what's your router IP?01:43
matthewjameslol01:43
matthewjames192.168.1.101:43
nozorrosaeal: maybe, maybe not. i'd need your entire xorg.conf to see it. please don't paste into the channel though01:44
magnetso it's the good broadcast address01:44
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brian98paddy_eire: Any joy ?01:44
saealnozorro: haha, okay don't worry I won't01:44
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matthewjamesbut the router ip for my pc is 192.168.1.401:44
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rafael_BRhey fellas how do i change ubuntu's default motd ?01:44
magnetmatthewjames: what do you mean?01:44
matthewjamesmagnet: lan ip*01:44
magnetrafael_BR: edit /etc/motd01:45
nozorrosaeal: the driver used is given in xorg.conf in the Section "Device" under "Driver"01:45
rafael_BRmagnet: isn't it overwritten after i reboot ?01:45
matthewjameswould u like me to send my ifconfig out put?01:45
magnetrafael_BR: shouldn't be01:45
Paddy_EIRE<brian98>no they must be waiting for edgy at this stage its a little late to implement this01:45
Steilbruenig: will reconfiguring through dpkg destroy my current config?01:45
magnetmatthewjames: paste it to the pastebin01:45
acidjazzhow do i stop ubuntu from running X and gdm/etc upon boot01:45
magnet!paste01:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:45
Paddy_EIREroll on October01:45
matthewjamespastebin...01:45
bruenigSteil, it will configure it to whatever you choose01:45
magnetSteil: if it changes it, it backs it up before01:46
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brian98<rafael_BR> or u can go gui root system-->administration-->login window01:46
matthewjamesmagnet: pastebin...01:46
brian98paddy_eire: sorry :(?01:46
bruenigif you don't want to change your current config, but want to change the keyboard, you appear to be contradictory01:46
Paddy_EIREno probs... why do ppl still use hoary and breezy i dont get it??01:46
weswh-what do you guys recommend for a simple ftp server? i want something that can easily keep my users straight - without having to add new users to my actual system, and can restrict access to a few folders on my machine. pretty basic, gui preferred..01:46
magnetweswh-: pure-ftpd01:47
magnetno gui01:47
matthewjamesmagnet: im sorry, paste bin?01:47
magnet!paste01:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:47
magnetmatthewjames: that's for you01:47
saealnozorro: for the ATI Default card, it's set to vesa01:47
brian98Who knows!!01:47
matthewjamesso download?01:47
torpedo|dogI'm having problems using the "new login in nested window" function01:47
brian98I'm off to watch only fools and horses :)01:47
magnetmatthewjames: read what ubotu says01:47
brian98brain needs some inane tv01:47
weswh-magnet - but pretty simple to figure out? i have used like vsftp before and it didn't work so well for me01:47
jvai_lol.. paddy, cause.. it good enuff for what i do w/ it.. it's stable, i got all the propietory codecs i figure i'll ever need, for me, dapper's not my tyme01:48
rafael_BRwhere are figlet fonts placed at?01:48
magnetweswh-: depends on what you mean by simple :) it's well documented01:48
matthewjameskk01:48
weswh-magnet - i don't know...simple like warftp for windows :P01:48
bbrazilrafael_BR: dpkg -L figlet01:48
magnetrafael_BR: /usr/share/figlet/01:48
rafael_BRthanks01:48
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magnetweswh-: I don't know windows01:48
rafael_BRbbrazil: pra q serve dpkg -L ???01:48
brian98paddy_eire you could always join #ubuntu+1 and ask em01:48
jvai_hoary replaced xp for me01:48
bbrazil!br01:49
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:49
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matthewjamesmagnet: ok done01:49
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nozorrosaeal: that's what the autoconfig gave you? try 'ati'. might lock you out of xserver though01:49
rafael_BRbbrazil: what's dpkg -L for???01:49
magnetrafael_BR: dpkg -L lists files from a given package01:49
rafael_BRmmm ok01:49
saealnozorro: tried that earlier but couldn't find my card, and xserver wouldn't work.01:49
magnetmatthewjames: well paste your net config there and give the url01:49
Jack_Sparrowjvai_: are you sure?01:49
matthewjameshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2287401:50
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brian98whats your opinion on Vista,01:50
PWillhey, when i click on links in xchat, they open in the terminal broswer, not firefox. "firefox %s" is set at the default browser in preferred applications01:50
Paddy_EIREI have Xgl installed and im able to run it although it performs really really badly :( ... i have proprietary ati drivers installed on my radeon 9250 with 128ram an athlon xp processor and 512 system ram???01:50
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nozorrosaeal: and is the card supported by the commercial ati driver(s)?01:50
jvai_yes!! i use hoary on my laptop, i got all i really need tranporting it from home to the work enviroment01:50
Paddy_EIRE*athlon xp 160001:50
saealnozorro: I have a cd with for Windows with the drivers on it.01:50
mcphailacidjazz: remove /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm01:51
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magnetmatthewjames: seems ok01:51
jvai_i'm in starbucks right now, & u know what? no buffer overruns!!! :P01:51
brian98pwill: settings--> advanced --> url handlers01:51
nozorrosaeal: the CD has the drivers for linux too?01:51
matthewjamesmagnet: ok, then what could it be?01:51
saealdunno01:51
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acidjazzmcphail: graci01:51
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bsdfoxPaddy_EIRE, I setup xgl on a similar system (p4/2.4ghz/1gb/9200SE 128) and it ran horribly, then I stuck a TNT2 in it and it got way faster01:51
saealnozorro: maybe, never thought to check01:51
matthewjamescan we try openssh?01:51
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bsdfoxPaddy_EIRE, I'd say the ati drivers aren't happy with xgl right now01:52
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magnetmatthewjames: are you sure that sudo netstat -apn | grep 22 doesn't show something like tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*  LISTEN 375/sshd ?01:52
magnet(and NOT tcp6)01:52
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jvai_brb01:52
EppcottI would like to ask a question about the error message "Cannot install all available updates."01:52
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saealnozorro: it only has an exe file in it.01:53
brian98eppcott: in what context01:53
saealnozorro: does ati have linux drivers for download?01:53
Eppcottin Ubuntu Gnome automatic updater.01:53
matthewjamesmagnet: tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN     24330/sshd01:53
magnet<magnet> (and NOT tcp6)01:53
brian98one sec01:53
Eppcottit's been giving me this message every time I update my system,01:53
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Eppcottbut I haven't seen any actual problems related to it, so far as I know.01:54
matthewjames<magnet> k01:54
magnetI take it as a no, so?01:54
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Eppcottthere are these five particular packages that it says will be skipped. Every time.01:54
matthewjames<magnet> ya, dont say it01:54
treedreamerhello,everyone !01:54
EppcottI'm not sure what I'm supposed to do about it, but it seems like it's telling me there's something wrong with my system.01:55
nozorrosaeal: i think so. ati doesn't support linux as well as nvidia though. please, do some reasearch on linux/ubuntu and ati to get further. for instance: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#xorg.conf (somewhere in the middle of the document)01:55
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brian98what is one of the packages?01:55
PWillbrian98, i set it is "firefox %s" and now nothing happens when i click links01:55
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treedreamertoday when i try to chown  a file ,but permission denied ,why?01:55
magnetEppcott: there's nothing to worry about those messages01:55
brian98try firefox-bin01:55
saealnozorro: another random question, what does the .run file do?01:55
matthewjames<magnet> now, do u need ipv4 enabled?01:55
PWilltreedreamer, you need to used sudo01:55
nozorrosaeal: where is it?01:55
magnetsaeal: they're binary files in a shell file, you run them with sh01:56
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brian98pwill try firefox %u01:56
saealnozorro: i got it from the ati website01:56
treedreamerPWill: oh,yes ,i used sudo01:56
saealnozorro: it's a drivers install file01:56
magnetmatthewjames: I don't know why openssh isn't bound on your ipv4 address, and I'm going to bed soon01:56
TylerDurdenerHey, I have two users, one named A the other B, is it possible to transfer all the settings (including mouse sens. wallpaper ect) from A to B?01:56
matthewjamesok01:56
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magnetyep TylerDurdener01:57
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nozorrosaeal: for linux drivers?01:57
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treedreamerPWill: i just run  sudo chown user:group /media/work/blog01:57
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TylerDurdenerhow can I do that magnet?01:57
Eppcottmagnet: thanks.01:57
coder2000what is needed for amarok to play mp3s?01:57
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magnetTylerDurdener: copy A's home to B's and then remove any personal file01:57
saealnozorro: yes, I found under Drivers and Support, a linux section for my card01:57
BlueVoidI have nVidia set up with Twinview.  It works, but for some reason it keep putting my secondary monitor as my my primary and my primary as my secondary.  Is there a way to fix this?01:57
jorikmagnet: wow i found out all mail i thought was lost was dropped in /var/mail/me01:58
bsdfoxBlueVoid, there's a bug in the drivers01:58
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magnetjorik: yeah but that's a mbox01:58
treedreamerPWill:in addition ,it is a vfat partion01:58
TylerDurdenermagnet how can I see B's home if I'm logged on at A?01:58
nozorrosaeal: well i guess, you should 'run' it then. but it should be documented somewhere. anyway, i highly recommend you read up on linux and ati on the net first :-)01:58
brian98!codecs > coder200001:58
bsdfoxBlueVoid, I set that up maybe.. 4 months ago? and extensive research showed me that it's a bug.. at least with selecting primary desktop between CRT and DFP01:58
matthewjameswhat would be my url if my hostname is ubuntu?01:58
magnetTylerDurdener: gksu nautilus, then filesystem to /home01:59
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magnetmatthewjames: your url has nothing to do with your hostname01:59
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BlueVoidbsdfox: so you didnt find a way to fix it?01:59
matthewjamesok01:59
TylerDurdenermagnet, gsku command not found01:59
magnetmatthewjames: at least the name you give to the machine01:59
brian98matthewjames: locally http://ubuntu01:59
brian98:)01:59
matthewjamesk01:59
magnetTylerDurdener: read again what I wrote :)01:59
brian98but in the big bad world nothing01:59
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matthewjames<brian98> hey, could u try to help me?02:00
bsdfoxBlueVoid, nope02:00
brian98I'll do my best02:00
bsdfoxBlueVoid, pissed me off a lot02:00
BlueVoidbsdfox: That sucks.  Alright, back to windows02:00
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PWilltreedreamer, so this is your mounted windows partition?02:00
matthewjameskk, i have a webser up, and no one can connect to my ip?02:00
PWilloops02:00
brian98ok02:00
jvai_what's the command to launch snort -v on boot up?02:00
matthewjameswhat can i do?02:00
brian98pwill: are you behind a router?02:01
TylerDurdenermagnet: great, thank you02:01
`123I have a rather obscure problem dealing with burning cd's ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1467227#post1467227 ) ive had it for a couple of months and havent been able to find a solution for it on google or the forums and havent recieved a response on the forums, so ive decided to give it a shot here.02:01
brian98pwill can you access it yourself?02:01
matthewjames<brian98>what can i do?02:01
magnetmatthewjames: read a lot of doc and try to find out what your problem is :) but since ssh won't work any more than apache, I guess the problem is not only with apache02:01
jvai_123 u r using the nautilus cd/writing tool?02:01
magnetnp TylerDurdener02:01
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jvai_try gnome baker from the repos02:02
matthewjamesok, but i can get a shoutcast server to work properly :P02:02
PWillbrian98, what do you mean can i access it myself?02:02
`123no02:02
`123everything02:02
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`123well... i tried cdrecord from command lin e02:02
`123nautilus02:02
`123k3b02:02
`123gnomebaker02:02
brian98pwill go to a shell type 'telnet localhost 8002:02
PWillmeh. maybe it's an edgy bug. i'll do a bug report, i guess02:03
jvai_what problems?02:03
magnetmatthewjames: that'll be the same problem; find out what the problem is first, i'm sure it's nothing02:03
`123read the post02:03
`123it has more details02:03
`123and id rather not flood the server02:03
matthewjamesbut the music server DOES work, and can access by ip02:03
magnetreally?02:03
matthewjamesis just what im trying to say :P02:03
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sethk`123, paste the url of the post again, please02:03
matthewjamesyea02:03
PWillbrian98, that wasn't me, that was somone else02:03
`123http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1467227#post146722702:03
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brian98pwill: sorry02:03
`123thanks for the help folks, this one has been bugging me for a long while02:03
TylerDurdener!codecs02:04
magnetmhh, well I'm too tired right now, it's 2 am and I work tomorrow02:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:04
sethkmatthewburke, if something works by ip but not by name, you have a DNS Problem02:04
brian98matthewjames: go to a shell type 'telnet localhost 8002:04
magnetso I can't help you, but i'm sure it's nothing02:04
matthewjames<brian98> ok, then what?02:04
magnetbrian98: he can get it to work in the browser already02:04
brian98tell me what you get02:04
brian98ok02:04
brian98what kind of router config he got?02:04
matthewjamesEscape character is '^] '.02:04
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sethk`123, unfortunately, that's a firmware bug02:04
`123oh?02:05
magnetbrian98: he supposedly forwarded port 80 :)02:05
`123what a pain :(02:05
sethk`123, debian just announced that they were going to switch cd record programs, because ...02:05
brian98ok...02:05
matthewjamesroot@ubuntu:~# telnet localhost 8002:05
matthewjamesTrying 127.0.0.1...02:05
matthewjamesConnected to localhost.localdomain.02:05
matthewjamesEscape character is '^] '.02:05
brian98don't paste....02:05
matthewjameskk02:05
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sethk`123, while the author of cdrecord is very good, he often says "bad firmware" or "kernel bug" instead of working around the problem02:05
magnetmatthewjames: you should get some HTML there02:05
harisundhas anybody actually compiled mplayer from source, or used binaries from the mplayer website rather than the one from the repositories/02:05
brian98what type of router have you got?02:05
matthewjamesnetgear02:05
`123ah, so this is an actual legit bug?02:05
sethk`123, he's right that it's a firmware problem, but just saying to people "buy another drive" isn't helpful02:05
sethk`123, oh, yes, definitely02:06
`123yeah02:06
`123i cant buy another drive02:06
TylerDurdenermagnet, check your IM please02:06
bruenigharisund, for what reason02:06
`123anything i can do to resolve it?02:06
jvai_123, have u tried toggling tru the way u burn, like *tao* dao*default*? i know i coulldnt use tao when burning data cd's, but use default02:06
magnetTylerDurdener: my IM?02:06
sethk`123, try searching the archives of the cdrecord mailing list02:06
TylerDurdenermagnet I sent you a whisper02:06
`123ok02:06
matthewjames<brian98> netgear02:06
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harisundbruenig: just curious. I compiled my firefox from source :) so I thought I would do that as well ..02:06
TylerDurdenermagnet: I'm using GAIM to also access IRC and it calls it IM :P02:06
magnetTylerDurdener: you have to register or identify your nick to PM02:06
sethk`123, there are so many types of cd burners, nobody can remember the details of all of them.  At least, I can't.02:06
bruenigharisund, why did you compile it from source?02:06
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`123out of curiosity, how did ya know this was a firmware bug?02:06
`123for my knowledge02:07
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TylerDurdener!nick02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:07
sethk`123, because burn-free happens entirely within the drive under the control of the firmware02:07
sethk`123, one thing that might help is to turn on scsi emulation for the burner and try it again02:07
brian98matthewjames: http://www.portforward.com/ is your only man!!!!02:07
brian98Come back if stuck02:07
matthewjamesbeen there02:07
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`123let me try that02:07
sethk`123, since kernel 2.6, scsi emulation is no longer required for an ide burner, but it can still be used.02:07
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sethk`123, nothing to lose by trying, except a cd blank.02:08
harisundbruenig: hmmm.. let's just say, for fun? Well, I know it's not fun to see stuff scroll by your screen.. but I do like to read the code, see how my modifications affect it and stuff like that..and I hvae a lot of stuff compiled from source on my machine ...02:08
`123ok02:08
`123true02:08
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`123i have plenty of cds :)02:08
jvai_lol02:08
magnetmh02:08
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harisundDBO: are you around?02:08
magnetClubbed: try again pm'ing me02:08
magneti disabled the filter02:08
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bruenigharisund, seems easier and better systemwise to have everything tracked by apt. Although I guess if you did a check install, that still works02:09
bruenigsystem wise*02:09
brian98I just tried connecting to your ip on port 80 and it's not open...02:09
sethk`123, odds are it will still fail, but blanks are cheap  :)02:09
eaglescouthi all, I have a question... can Ubuntu be dual-loaded on a windows computer with 2 hard drives, if so, can somebody help me through the installation?02:09
magneteaglescout: yes and no :P02:09
eaglescoutxP02:09
sethkeaglescout, as long as windows is on the first and linux on the second, yes02:09
brian98matthewjames I just tried connecting to your ip on port 80 and it's not open...02:09
harisundbruenig: yes, where possible I use checkinstall and have .deb files ... where not, well.... that is one thing that annoys me abut Linux, applications placing their files wherever they want. Most applications come with a make uninstall capability .. but for those that don't :(02:09
cynicaleaglescout: agreed, as long as windows is on the first02:10
sethkeaglescout, xp is bitchy if it isn't the first partition of the first drive02:10
harisundbruenig: and where possible I use ./configure --prefix=/opt/name as well....02:10
matthewjames<brian98> well i just opened, and 80 been opened this whole time, accordsing to the router pahge02:10
`123yup02:11
`123i just hope i have the option enabled in my kernel...02:11
eaglescoutI don't have XP.  I have 2000 Pro.  will that make a difference  (The C: drive is my primary, and it's windows.)02:11
brian98matthewjames and is nat setup to forward 80 to your ubuntu box?02:11
cynicaleaglescout: nah you can install just fine02:11
matthewjamesum, in router page?02:11
NthDegreeeaglescout, 2000 and XP are very closely related02:11
brian98yes02:11
eaglescoutokay, I'm just scared because I don't want to kill my computer. xP02:11
matthewjamesum i need to find where nat is 1 sec02:11
nozorroeaglescout: fwiw, it was the same win Win NT (being bitchy if not on the first hd)02:12
NthDegreeeaglescout, so when people say XP it will usually work for 2000 aswell02:12
eaglescoutokay02:12
cynicalmatthewjames: what is the make and model of your router?02:12
brian98mattherjames: you gotta do port forwarding and setup a nat rule and possible a firewall rule depending on how good/bad your firewall/router is02:12
brian98cynical: netgear02:12
cynicalwhat model netgear?02:12
brian98all the info is at portforward.com02:12
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brian98even tests that it works..02:12
cynicalyeah I was going to suggest that02:12
runes2006what application would you use to RDC to a windows machine?02:12
saealHey guys, another quick quetsion02:13
cynicalhe said hes trying to find the page, there are tutorials with pictures on that site02:13
brian98runes2--6 RDP?02:13
matthewjames<cynical> netgear, WGR614v602:13
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runes2006connect to a remote desktop02:13
brian98terminal server client02:13
runes2006from linux to windows02:13
brian98under applications internet02:13
`123err... is scsi emulation a kernel option in 2.6?02:13
saealI'm going througha walk through with downloading resources, and it says E: Could not get lock /var/blah blah - open (11 Resource temporaily unavailable)02:13
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eaglescoutOkay, to make Ubuntu on my secondary drive, do I just save it to my secondary drive, or is there more?02:14
`123its not under block devices :(02:14
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cynicalmatthewjames: this is for forwarding apache, http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WGR614v6/Apache.htm02:14
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runes2006got it thx!02:14
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matthewjamesim there allready followed steps, still no work02:14
stormchas3rwho can I talk to about implementing ubuntu at my work?02:14
brendonjthi ya all02:14
nozorrosaeal: maybe you have another software installation app running?02:14
jvai_i installed squid proxy cache, how do i filter port 3128, even tho it's listening on the localhost?02:14
saealah02:14
brian98runes2006: if you want sound choose rdpv502:14
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saealnozorro: thanks! fiqure I left the auto updater on02:14
jvai_i have firestarter02:15
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runes2006got it brian98 thanx02:15
cynicalmatthewjames: check here to see if it is really forwarded or not, https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd202:15
brian98matthewjames: have you any other machines on your lan02:15
nozorrosaeal: that's it. they're relying on the same backend02:15
cynicalmatthewjames: in the box enter 80 and hit custom port probe02:15
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matthewjamesmy dads, but its on standby02:15
saealnozorro: yup I got it now.02:15
matthewjamesk02:15
james296how can I enable more screen resolutions?02:15
ripperwho's got the abacus02:15
cynicalmatthewjames: if it fails the stealth check, that means its open. If it passes, :\02:15
saealnozorro: I'm not used to an updater, they don't have that in debian. It's a nice feature02:15
james296I mean from that terminal screen setup thing...02:16
nozorrosaeal: yep02:16
matthewjamesk02:16
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brian98cynical: I just ran a port scan, they all look closed02:16
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james296well?02:16
matthewjamescynical it says its open02:16
cynicalbrian98: well if you are trying to forward, then it hasnt been done properly02:16
matthewjamescynical it says its open02:16
cynicalmattewjames: then your port is forwarded, what are you trying to setup?02:17
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matthewjamesapache, and it is, but cant access by ip02:17
brian98it's open now02:17
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brian98I can access it now matthewjames02:17
cynicalyou need to check the apache config files, make sure that its letting people access it02:17
brian98you changed something02:17
cynicalheh good02:17
[coreymon77(n=coreymon@CPE000f663685cd-CM0011e67c2935.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)] hi02:17
matthewjamesum, would that be in bin?02:17
magnetgrrrrrr02:17
cynicalbrian98 says it works now02:17
der0bif you configure amarok in kubuntu and then install the ubuntu-desktop do you need to do anything special for amarok?  it seems to hang rebuilding my collection :(02:17
magnetyou hadn't properly set you router?!02:18
brian98matthewjames: Welcome to XAMPP for Linux 1.5.3a !02:18
magnet(i knew it! :P)02:18
matthewjameswhere is it?02:18
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magnethttp://70.226.214.251/xampp/02:18
matthewjamesyay02:18
cynicalha02:18
cynicalfun02:18
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brian98what did you change grrrrr :)02:19
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matthewjamesumm guys, it only works when i open from xchat...02:19
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matthewjamesok, i finnally got it!!!02:19
matthewjamesthankyou alot guys for all the help!02:20
jvai_i installed squid proxy cache, how do i filter port 3128, even tho it's listening on the localhost?02:20
matthewjames1 last thing02:20
cynicalcourse02:20
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matthewjamesmy pc wont shut down properly, when i click it, it freezes at a black screen...02:20
eaglescoutokay, i'm downloading Ubuntu now.  I'm trying the Desktop CD thing.  Is that the best thing for me right now?02:20
cynicaleaglescout: yes02:20
brian98eaglescout: yup02:20
bruenigalternate02:20
brian98what he says!02:21
james296how can I reset xorg?02:21
bruenig!xconfig02:21
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"02:21
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brendonjteaglescout: yip02:21
cynicaljames296: sudo dpkg-reconfig --- damn beat me02:21
cynicaljalskdfjsd02:21
matthewjamescynical or brian98, can help me find out why my pc wont logout, shutdown etc, it freezes at black screen?02:21
eaglescoutthanks for helping me! I'll be back after I have uBuntu installed!02:22
eaglescoutUbuntu*02:22
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brendonjteaglescout: ok have fun02:22
cynicalhmm02:22
brian98matthewjames, shounds like a service isn't shtting down, any ideas cynical?02:22
cynicalnot yet02:22
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matthewjameshmmm02:22
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brian98matthewjames: if you hit ctrl alt f1 then login02:23
brian98type sudo reboot -n02:23
matthewjamesnope, it freezes to02:23
brian98does that work02:23
matthewjamesnope, it freezes to02:23
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brian98which log would you check that in cynical?02:23
cynicalmatthewjames: try disabling usplash, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/usplash02:23
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matthewjameskk02:23
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ColonelPanic001Ubuntu, for the second time in about 2 or 3 days, just randomly restarted. Anything recent happen with updates or something by chance?02:24
matthewjamesok, now what, try to standby?02:24
cynicalbrian98: if you are right, and its a service, he should look in init.d and see what hes running02:24
cynicalI think usplash is the problem though02:24
ColonelPanic001I wasn't doing anything crazy. Just playing Amarok and downloading a PDF in firefox. :\02:24
bur[n] er_anyone know if it's possible to make a .deb that just copies a bunch of files to a user's ~/ ?  I'm trying to think of the best way to package a theme.  gdm, icons, colors, toolbar positions, etc.02:24
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brian98I'll go with your better judgement ;)02:24
matthewjamesso try to standby?02:25
atroWorkbur[n] er, yup, just read some of the tutorials on package building02:25
cynicalreboot and try to shutdown again02:25
matthewjameskk02:25
bruenigbruner, why not make a tar.gz of all your stuff, then write a script that copies it all and run the script02:25
matthewjamesif im not back for a while, u not happened02:25
bur[n] er_bruenig: would like uninstall support via package manager02:25
brian98you could try sudo shutdown -n02:25
bur[n] er_maybe a .package would be better?02:26
bruenigbur[n] er, ah02:26
brian98see if that works?02:26
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brian98you could try sudo shutdown -f even02:26
brian98sorry02:26
bur[n] er_er.. .autopackage or something like that02:26
viatormy isi bought a camera and said i need help installing it i said what for  she had all these cd's  etc i said throw those out she plugged it in and it was instantly recognized and her photos were being transfered in a matter of moments02:26
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viatormy sister*02:26
ColonelPanic001Any ideas on my thing, by chance? Just seems odd that seemingly for no reason at all, ubuntu rebotoed. Hard reboot, like I hit the power switch02:26
cynicalviator: nice02:26
saealanother quick question: How do you "recomplile the kernel module after each kernel update"?02:26
brian98colonelpanic001: I'd say hardware...02:26
viatorthat is easier than xp anyday02:26
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brian98PSU perhaps02:26
brian98?02:26
WD_RaptorI need an op fast please02:26
ColonelPanic001brian98, sounds it, eh? I have no idea though, it's never been a problem02:26
cynicalsame, maybe its overheating?02:26
bruenig!ops02:26
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!02:26
atroWorkColonelPanic001, sorry, I use amarok constantly and download pdfs from time to time, I've experience no problems lately02:27
viatorinstall uselless bloated cds drivers etc02:27
brian98yeah heat!02:27
brian98always a prob02:27
ColonelPanic001hm02:27
viatorubuntu ownz02:27
ColonelPanic001could be....02:27
brian98could be the bios thermal protection kicking in02:27
brian98try disabling it02:27
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brian98or get cpu temp monitor02:27
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ColonelPanic001good thought, actually. Rather than disabling it, though, I'll see about cooling the computer better :P02:27
ColonelPanic001hehe02:27
brian98can't remember the name of the package, cynical?02:27
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Hobbseebruenig: ?02:27
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cynicalbrian98: I didnt know there was one lol. He could always check his bios though02:28
HobbseeWD_Raptor: what for?02:28
bruenigHobbsee, WD_Raptor wan't you02:28
gnomefreak?02:28
WD_RaptorI need IT KNOW02:28
bruenigwants*02:28
WD_Raptorplease02:28
Clinton__what's a good pcmcia usb G wireless key that works with ubuntu?02:28
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Clinton__pcmcia or usb02:28
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weswh-how can i change the port that my ssh daemon is running on?02:28
Clinton__weswh-: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config02:28
gnomefreakWD_Raptor: what do you want an op for?02:28
weswh-clinton - how do i restart it after editing?02:28
brian98is it sudo apt-get install hardware-monitor cputemp02:28
WD_RaptorSomeone is doing something to me02:28
WD_RaptorI need someone NOW!02:28
Clinton__weswh-: then after you've edited it, as root /etc/init.d/ssh restart02:28
WD_Raptorpleae02:28
gnomefreakWD_Raptor: in this channel?02:28
viatorisnt there a hardware database02:28
brian98is it sudo apt-get install hardware-monitor cpu02:28
viator?02:29
WD_Raptorplease, can an op PM me02:29
cynicalClinton__: http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=19&FamID=33&ProdID=23602:29
gnomefreakWD_Raptor: pm me with the issue02:29
ColonelPanic001Sep  7 07:36:08 calypso exiting on signal 1502:29
ColonelPanic001Sep  7 07:36:09 calypso syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.02:29
ColonelPanic001that looks to be the message in the /var/log/messages.02:29
Clinton__cynical: do you have exp with that?02:29
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NthDegreeWD_Raptor, PM me if someone is trying exploits on you02:29
cynicalClinton__: It was automatically detected by ubuntu. And even if it isnt all you have to do is modprobe zd1211 and its ready to go02:29
brian98it wasn'tme02:29
naknomikIs there a way to install Ubuntu from a USB key?02:29
cynicalClinton__: yes I use it daily without issue02:29
Clinton__cynical: excellent!  dapper seems to have dropped support for my belkin card :(02:30
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saealanother quick question: How do you "recomplile the kernel module after each kernel update"?02:30
Clinton__it worked on older versions of ubuntu....02:30
cynicalClinton__: tell me about it, my bro has a broadcom :\02:30
cynicalClinton__: seems to get easier with each kernel update, anyway that g card can be bought for like $20-3002:30
Clinton__cynical: good!  I like cheap02:31
Clinton__thats why I refuse to buy Windows :)02:31
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brian98colonelpanic001: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245216&page=2 sounds like it! ?02:31
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brian98something to do with IPV602:31
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viatoryeah because windows is cheap  ly   made02:32
saealHow do you recompile the kernel module?02:32
viatorbroadcom works02:33
viatorjust not automagically02:33
icemanThey should distribute a Ubuntu Cluster Distro02:33
viatorand depends on which broadcom chispet02:33
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fiveironi think i just might have to code a gnome toolbar applet to track digg stories...02:33
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tristanbobcan someone give me the exact name and path of hte xorg.conf file?02:34
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saealtristanbob /etc/X11/02:35
tristanbobI was trying to install nvidia driver... ran into problems02:35
brian98/etc/X1102:35
tristanbobsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:35
`123oh... i had a bear with that02:35
tristanbobit gave a warning about md5 not matching02:35
saealHow do you recompile the kernel module? can anyone tell me?02:36
`123redownload it?02:36
tristanbobit thought I had manually edited xorg conf, which I didn't02:36
viatorif your card doesnt work with ndiswrapper02:36
viatorand theres no native driver02:36
Clinton__ugh.. what's a good gui cd iso burner?02:36
viatortry the linuxtant driverloader02:36
`123k3b02:36
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tristanbobviator: I have nvidia motherboard, built in graphics02:36
viatork3b gnomebaker etc02:37
brian98colonelpanic001: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245216&page=1 even02:37
brian98sorry02:37
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viatorim sorry i wasnt referring to graphics but to wireless cards02:37
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naknomikI have a JMicron JMB363 chip on my MOBO for supporting PATA, the Ubuntu install CD does not support this yet, kernel 2.6.16 does, so I'm trying to install using a USB key, can I do that?02:37
tristanbobhow can I restore the xorg.conf, I think that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" made a copy02:37
`123!xconfig02:38
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"02:38
ColonelPanic001brian98, yeah, kind of02:38
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ColonelPanic001I'll look at it more in a bit, thanks for the help02:38
viatoryou can install from a usb key i guess02:38
ColonelPanic001linear algebra calls02:38
ColonelPanic001>.<02:38
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saealHow do you recompile the kernel module?02:38
viatorbut youd need a floppy or cdrom to tell the pc to loook at the usb02:38
tristanbob`123: that might work - I'd prefer to just use the copy that was made02:38
EriKTristanbob: it will usually leave an xorg.conf.nv in your /etc/X11 directory02:38
brian98(:/)02:38
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`123k well try02:39
Clinton__viator: yea I knew of k3b, was trying to stick with a gnome one tho, I'll give gnomebaker a shot02:39
`123ls /etc/X1102:39
`123then just  sudo cp xorg.conf.whatever xorg.conf02:39
viatorclinton cd burning is built in02:39
viatorto ubuntu02:39
tristanbob`123: cool - I am looking at that02:39
saealnozorro: could you tell me how to recompile the kernel module?02:39
viatorbut gnome baker will give you a litle more control02:40
Clinton__viator: not right now - I had to switch to straight Debian because of dapper refuses to recognize my belkin card02:40
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Clinton__viator: so I'm burning the new edgy .iso to see if it has been re-supported (crossing fingers)02:40
viatorwhat chipset02:40
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jonlandrumHey guys, sorry to interrupt. I've got a problem with my install.02:40
Clinton__viator: Belkin pcmcia F5D6020 (chipset 2 I believe)02:40
brian98anyone ever get a hack to run firefox on a dual head on 2 different monitors ?02:40
viatorask cafuego02:41
Clinton__brian98: if your X is setup dualhead, then you don't need to hack firefox02:41
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viatorhes handy with wireless02:41
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viatorif hes around02:41
jonlandrumI tried installing ubuntu, but the install didn't finish. It gave an error and quit.02:41
Clinton__cafuego: knock knock?02:41
robert_how do I fix 'perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")'. ?02:41
brian98Clinton_ : U can only run it on one monitor at a time.02:41
Clinton__brian98: says who?02:41
brian98If you have it on mon1 then try on mon2 it gives you an error02:41
brian98MY COMPUTER02:41
brian98:)02:42
viatordual heads work02:42
viatornot easily though02:42
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Clinton__brian98: ah.. well.. I've seen it done, but have no done it myself02:42
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jonlandrumHow do I wipe my drive?02:42
azurealhi, how do i go about making my gtk font larger02:42
brian98It thinks it's hung02:42
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Clinton__brian98: firefox is hung?  or X?02:42
brian98because it can't detect itself on the desktop.02:42
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brian98nah, it just throws an error if you have it open on the other monitor02:43
Clinton__brian98: if you have more than one X running, then yes, that would be a problem02:43
brian98there has to be a hack for it :)02:43
brian98grrrrrrr02:43
Clinton__brian98: firefox creates a lock file for itself, and if it is started up will try to attach itself to the current X session that is associated with the lock02:43
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brian98install a second copy of firefox on x:102:44
brian98?02:44
azurealanyone? you know you like gtk =)02:44
matthewjamesBRIAN9802:44
`123anyone know how to get scsi emulation working for cdrecord in 2.6 kernel?02:44
viatorfonts in gconf maybe?02:44
viatori dinno02:44
brian98but then you gotta sync bookmarks etc..02:44
matthewjamesi cant boot into linux now!02:44
brian98don't fancy that02:44
brian98matthewjames: Can I help you Sir02:44
Clinton__brian98: nope, does'nt work that way :)02:44
matthewjamessince u had me chmod that file02:44
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der0bI just installed the ubuntu-desktop on my Kubuntu install.  for some reason ~/bin is no longer in my path (the if statement for it is in ~./bash_profile, and I have rebooted).  any ideas?02:44
Clinton__brian98: why don't you work on getting a proper dual head setup with just one X session?02:44
nozorrosaeal: are u new to linux. then compiling the driver will be difficult for your. i would have to look up the details myself02:45
matthewjames<brian98> i cant even boot into ubuntu now02:45
Clinton__der0b: ~./bash_profile may not be sourced, try adding the lines in .bashrc as well02:45
saealnozorro: I'm relativly new02:45
Clinton__damn.. I sure am helpful when I'm waiting on CD's to burn :)02:45
nozorrosaeal: your card simply isn't well supported afaik02:45
PathagenXI will return!02:45
der0bis there a way to call bash_profile?02:45
cynicalmatthewjames: just renable usplash, sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/usplash02:45
matthewjames<brian98>i can still login, but its ll command line02:46
matthewjamesok, brb02:46
siljedalHi I'm having truble configuring my screen resolution... runnning a 6600 AGP card  and it seems to be locked to 640x480......02:46
viatorso chmod it back to its previos permissions02:46
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viatorlol02:46
sugarpillHello all, I am trying to install mplayer.. and im having some problems... could anyone point me in the right direction... here is what im getting http://pastebin.ca/16388502:46
saealnozorro: well I'm installing a new driver for it, I just need to "recompile the kernel module"02:46
Clinton__der0b: yes, but it could result in an infinite loop between the .bash_profile and .bashrc02:46
icemananyone used Kororaa is a LiveCD ?02:46
nozorrosaeal: that's what ati says ?02:46
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nozorrosaeal: gimme your exact card model again pls.02:47
icemananyone used Kororaa LiveCD the XGL distro.02:47
Clinton__der0b: ensure that the files have the execute bit set02:47
der0bthat wouldn't be any good :P, I've update .bashrc..  how can I 'reload' it now?02:47
saealnozorro: no that's what the Ubuntu Dapper Installation guite says.02:47
jonlandrumquit02:47
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saealnozorro: Radeon X180002:47
siljedalHi I'm having truble configuring my screen resolution... runnning a 6600 AGP card  and it seems to be locked to 640x480...... plz give me help in here cause reading web pages in 640x480 is HELL!!!!02:47
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brian98clinton__ There is a directive you can  put in the to the session session of xorg.conf that does that ala windows dual display but there are many downsides02:48
der0bthat did the trick clinton__, much appreciated.02:48
brian98Matthewjames: What did you do?02:48
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Clinton__der0b: no problem02:48
Clinton__brian98: yup, there sure is!  and I don't know a damn thing about them :)02:48
Ychsiljedal, du you have the nvidia drivers installed?02:48
saealnozorro: btw, I'm following method 2 from this article: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually02:48
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adamlazzhey all... ive been using the live DVD for a while, and I want to install ubuntu soon. is there a way that I could do this with a way to still have windows as the default OS, and just hop on ubuntu from some sort of shortcut?02:49
viatorsiljedal lets see your sources.list02:49
adamlazzpm02:49
viatorpastebin it02:49
Clinton__adamlazz: a shortcut from Windows?02:49
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viatoradamlazz no02:49
viatoryou cann make an image02:49
Clinton__siljedal: thats OK, we all once were02:49
viatorvamware02:49
adamlazzyeah, like a desktop icon so i could launch02:49
Jack_SparrowIs anyone familiar with setting up guarddog firewall manager02:49
viatorvmware02:49
Clinton__adamlazz: nope, sorry, it doesn't work that way, you can try a dual boot tho and still have both02:50
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adamlazzbut i will lose RAM?02:50
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Clinton__adamlazz: no you won't, you would see a decrease in hard drive space on your windows partition however02:51
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siljedalis there some commands i can runn in terminal to manually change the resolution and Hz02:51
nozorrosaeal: pls ask somewhere whether the package xorg-driver-fglrx supports your card or not, or just install it and see for yourself02:51
adamlazzyeah.... thats a given..02:51
Clinton__adamlazz: thats if you can resize the partition (if you don't know what you're doing, then DON'T DO THAT)02:51
brian98Clinton__ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama02:51
brian98thats the one02:51
Clinton__brian98: thanks, but I'll probly never use it hehe02:51
Telroth`siljedal, shutdown X, edit /etc/X/xorg.conf, then start X back up02:51
viatoradamlazz try vmware02:51
saealnozorro: Tried that allready, so I'm proceeding with backup plans02:51
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adamlazzbut, will I have to launch windows or linux from BIOS everytime I decide to hop on linux?02:51
brian98it's handy if someone asks ;)02:51
viatorsiljedal02:51
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viatori want to see your sources.list02:51
driz__hello all, any idea why i cant set a higher resolution than 1024x768?02:51
brian98Matthewjames: What did you do?02:52
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nozorrosaeal: sorry for you :-)02:52
Clinton__brian98: true!02:52
viatorbecause of your mplayer problem02:52
Telroth`driz__, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg02:52
Clinton__driz__: does your video card and monitor support higher resolutions?02:52
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saealnozorro: could you possibly tell me how to recompile the kernel module?02:52
driz__Clinton__, yes, its an ati radeon 9600 (128mb)02:52
Clinton__driz__: what Telroth`said02:52
saealnozorro: or possibly point me in the right direction of doucmentation?02:52
driz__Telroth`, how will that fix it?02:52
siljedalTelroth: thnx I'll try that02:53
adamlazzbut, will I have to launch windows or linux from BIOS everytime I decide to hop on linux?02:53
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nozorrosaeal: no i can't, i haven't done such a thing in ages. you're best off in the forums i believe02:53
Telroth`driz__, it should rescan your gfx card and rewrite xorg.conf02:53
porttry 855resolution or 915resolution02:53
viatorno adamlazz grub comes up and you choose what to boot02:53
portlook on the forums for that02:53
driz__Telroth`, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg02:53
portyeah02:53
adamlazzalright02:53
driz__Telroth`, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg02:53
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driz__Telroth`, that isnt the right command.02:54
sidWith the Dapper live cd for x86, I have an Ati 9100, and it defaulted to 640x480 resolution, and I can't even see the whole installer window.02:54
Telroth`driz__, what is?02:54
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sidAnd I went to Desktop/Preferences/Screen Resolution, but there is only one choice, 60hz and 640x48002:54
adamlazzand whats a good partition size?02:54
sidI edited xorg.conf and tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart; but with the livecd this does nothing.02:54
Clinton__adamlazz: what do you have?02:54
driz__Telroth`, i get this dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure02:54
nozorrosaeal: if you have any money at all, try to get a cheap supported nvidia card somewhere if you need 3D. The old ati 3d rage cards also worked nicely ... (only 2D though)02:55
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brian98Man skype is really unstable on linux02:55
siljedaldam what was that command do be root in terminal again....02:55
adamlazz40 GB HD02:55
brian98I wish I didn't have to use it...02:55
sidAnyone know about the dapper live cd?(the main installer disc)02:55
Clinton__driz__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ....02:55
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viatormake sure he defrags windows before resizing the partion02:55
adamlazzand its already partitioned into 20/2002:55
portsid: take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2492302:55
brian98or is just me?02:55
Clinton__adamlazz: knock off 10gig then, use 1gig for swap space and 9 gig for ubuntu (it'll be MORE than enough)02:55
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Black_BishopAnyone use an external USB hard drive?  I just bought a Western Digital.  Works fine, but I'm wondering how I should unmount it.  With other removable storage devices (SD card, thumbdrive), I would just just hit "eject" on the menu, but this causes the HD to click pretty loudly.  Am I damaging the drive?  Should I just umount it in a terminal?02:55
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Clinton__adamlazz: if its already partititioned, then you're good (except for the swap space)02:56
viatorbrain yeah02:56
viator1.3 BETA02:56
matt__`i am on a fresh install of ubuntu and trying to checkout an svn repo - but it won't work. I enter my password, and it just keeps asking me to enter it again. and ideas what might be going on? it works on two other machines, so i am thinking maybe it is something different on ubuntu?02:56
brian98black_bishop: right click eject02:56
viatorbrian*02:56
Renan_s2Black_Bishop: it should umount automatically when you disconnect it.02:56
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adamlazzClinton__ but some of the second partition has windows files on it02:56
brian98matt__ wrong password02:56
lumgwadaHi, Is anyone here using devilspie to customise metacity windows?02:56
matt__`Brian98 no02:56
Renan_s2but if you want to be in the safe side, umount it on a terminal.02:56
Clinton__adamlazz: well move them to the first :)02:56
Black_Bishopbrian98:  I shouldn't be concerned with the clicking?02:56
adamlazzhahah alrighty02:56
matt__`brian98 i am 100% sure password is correct02:57
adamlazzand whats swap space?02:57
Clinton__adamlazz: if they're program files that you installed to that partition, then you have your work cutout for you02:57
Flappineaglehowdy , am i correct in assuming that this is a help channel?02:57
matt__`brian98: and if i try with wrong pass, it says permission denied, it doesnt say that with right pass, just keeps asking for it02:57
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Clinton__adamlazz: swap space is virtual memory02:57
NalfeshneeHello.02:57
brian98hrm02:57
adamlazzokay, awesome02:57
sidport: That looks pretty complicated, there are like 2 dosen commands there.02:57
sidIt's that hard to change my resoultion?02:57
Clinton__alright - time to reboot and test edgy :)02:57
portno02:57
harisundClinton__ reboot?02:58
viatormake swap about 512 mb or so02:58
NalfeshneeI was wondering if anyone can walk me through uninstalling grub via the recovery console.02:58
viatorupto you though02:58
nozorroBlack_Bishop try 'sudo sync' in a terminal, with the drive mounted and some file moved to and fro. does it click in the same way?02:58
nozorroBlack_Bishop: some files*02:58
viatorwhy do you want to resintall grub?02:58
NalfeshneeI want to uninstall it.02:58
viatoruninstall*02:58
sidport: Also this talk about "patching" the Ubuntu...It's a livecd how do I patch that?02:58
NalfeshneeI attempted to set up a dual boot.02:58
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sidIt's RO02:58
NalfeshneeWindows wont boot now.02:58
NalfeshneeJust before safe mode crash.02:59
viatorNalfeshnee did you defrag windows02:59
viatorbefore you did that02:59
NalfeshneeYes.02:59
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viatormaking a partion02:59
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adamlazzalright, thanks for the help guys02:59
viatorresizing that is02:59
viatorcause if you didnt windows is borked02:59
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Black_Bishopnozorro:  No clicking upon 'sudo sync'02:59
ugaritthis is weird in gnome my volume controls are apposite?  - means increase volume while + means decrease! how could this be?03:00
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driz__Telroth`, should i reboot after re doing the xorg config to see changes?03:00
nozorroBlack_Bishop: which brings us back to where we started ...03:00
viatorif you have your windows cd  it has a recovery console03:00
viatorand it will rewrite of the mbr03:00
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NalfeshneeMMk.03:01
NalfeshneeThanks.:)03:01
viatorlook on the forums03:01
weswh-how can i tell which groups a user belongs to? and is there a group less powerful that 'users'? i want a user that has access only to their home dir, and nothing else03:01
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weswh-(basically for file storage)03:01
ClubbedHow come the files I transfer out of my ipod are named something like HYBC.mp3 instead of its actual filename?03:01
Black_Bishopugarit:  Are you in the southern hemisphere?  You see, Ubuntu was written in the Northern hemisphere, so the Coriolis effect may reverse your volume control03:01
nozorrolol03:01
NalfeshneeRofl.03:01
portokay sid, try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114067 its more simple03:01
NalfeshneeDude, that is the best explanation i've ever heard in my life.03:01
NalfeshneeGo go coriolis.03:01
NalfeshneeAnd fuck the earth turning, it's annoying.><03:02
ugaritBlack_Biship: lol, I'm in the north and it was working  correctly before03:02
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nozorronozorro: wondering what will happen on the equator ...03:02
portlol03:02
Flappineagleminor problem if anyones got the time, i cant seem to get xchat to connect to undernet ,what server do i add or is there an auto lookup03:02
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sidport: How can I restart X with the livecd?03:03
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portjust do03:04
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gomekAnyone know of any documentation on the web for modifying existing metapackages?03:04
Telroth`driz__, perhaps03:04
portCTRL+ALT+ Backspace03:04
gomekOr know how to do such a thing?03:04
portit will restart X03:04
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portand then you just login03:04
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Telroth`gomek, metapackages being .deb packages?03:04
portor just logout and log back in03:04
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Flappineagleok thanks for the help03:05
gomektelroth .deb packages without sources, such as ubuntu-desktop03:05
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Renan_s2!skype03:06
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto03:06
Flappineaglecant even get anyone to acknowledge my existence much less help thanks a bunch03:06
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fourat2how to install my new usb scanner ?03:07
Telroth`gomek, use dpkg --extract and dpkg --control to extract the files and control files03:07
Telroth`look up how they work03:07
fourat2as  this say : http://www.linux.com/howtos/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.shtml#USB-TYPE03:07
Telroth`also03:07
fourat2i have no scanner driver in my kernel modules03:07
Telroth`google "create .deb package" and click second link03:07
fourat2i wont recompile it03:07
Telroth`for how to repackage a .deb file03:07
fourat2i wont recompile the kernel03:07
fourat2does debs resolve the problem03:08
fourat2?03:08
nozorrofourat2: have you looked around for a linux driver?03:08
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viatorforat2 see if its supported by ane03:08
viatorfirst03:08
viatorsane*03:08
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fourat2nozorro, no :)03:09
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viatorfourat2 what scanner is it?03:09
fourat2genius colorpage-vivid 1200XE03:10
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viatorfourat203:11
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viatorok03:11
viatorits supported03:11
viatorand theres drivers03:11
viatorhttp://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-GENIUS03:11
viatorhowtos on there to03:11
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gomektelroth` talking about the checkinstall link?03:12
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fourat2viator, thx03:12
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tristanbob`123:  ok - it looks like I got it working again - dpkg-reconfigure worked03:13
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tristanbob`123: :) thanks for your help03:13
JediWingKnightHello - I made a DVD with windows and because the file was 3.8 GB, it had to be UDF, but by ubuntu computer cant read it.03:13
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Skwid_is it normal that, after an update, i only have gnome 2.14.3 ?03:14
nozorroJediWingKnight: what errors do you get03:14
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matt__`i'm trying to apt-get install fuse-utils, and I am getting error 'Package fuse-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.', is there any way to still install this package?03:15
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brendonjtmatt_: have you tried using synaptic?03:16
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Skwid_anyone ?03:18
brian98Matt__ Make sure that Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe fuse-utils 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 [48.4kB]  is in your sources list03:18
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nozorroSkwid_: seems normal for a regular update -- unless you upgrade to next ubuntu version03:18
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Skwid_how would i do that ?03:19
Skwid_dist-upgrade ?03:19
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lostincI was wondering when you use synaptic to download packages is there a way to preserve thos packages on a removable drive so that they can be shared on a private network?03:19
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nozorroSkwid_: wait till Oct when next version will be ready -- still beta now03:19
AngryElf_ubuntu have somethin like norton ghost?03:19
bruenig!backup > AngryElf03:20
Skwid_nozorro: i use it for testing, not for production anyhow03:20
bruenig!backup > AngryElf_03:20
Skwid_nozorro: how can i get the EE packages ?03:20
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[adw] hi, when i press ctrl+alt and f2, i get a console- is there any way to change the txt size for this console?03:20
saealIt worked03:20
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saealJust reboot'd03:20
P3L|C4N0greetings03:20
brian98[adw]  ooi why?03:20
brendonjtlostinc: iirc i think they are cached on ur system,  i  can't remember where at the moment i think they are in /etc/apt/cache03:20
jrsimshey, is there a way to change my swap-space after installing ubuntu?03:20
saealno need for random recompilke03:20
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nozorroSkwid_: EE???03:20
saealhaulin!03:20
lostincno not a ghost. But lets say I have 2 machines one on a network in the usa and another not on any network in ireland and i want to take any packages that I have downloaded (installed or not) with synaptic and take them to ireland for installation.03:20
Skwid_nozorro: edgy eft03:20
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nozorroSkwid_: join #ubuntu+1 for that03:21
AngryElfbruenig, i'm talking about norton ghost server + pxe boot etc etc03:21
brian98lostinc: your in Ireland !03:21
[adw] brian98: because now its 640x480, i would like it somewhere in the 1024 range03:21
bruenigAngryElf, oh03:21
matt__`brian98: how do I add that to my sources/03:21
bruenigwhat was i thinking of03:21
AngryElfthat could work with any image reall....windows/linux/whatever03:21
brian98[adw]  I don't think so but I could be well wrong03:21
lostinclol just an example03:21
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jrsimshey, is there a way to change my swap-space after installing ubuntu?03:22
[adw] brian98: thanks, guess ill google some more:)03:22
bruenigjrsims, what do you mean by change?03:22
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jrsimsbruenig: I need more swap space to run Oracle03:22
brendonjtlostinc: the packages that you download are cached on your system  have a look in /etc/apt/  and see whats in there  i think there is a cache folder in there03:22
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PathagenXI return! :D03:23
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bruenigjrsims, you can use the live cd to do it regardless of the situation. If you need to take space from one of the active partitions, you won't be able to without using the live cd because it requires deactivating them03:23
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lostincno luck brendonjt03:24
jrsimsbruenig: will it hurt my current install?03:24
bruenighowever, if you wanted to take space from a partition that isn't mounted or isn't essential like a data partition or something else, you could do it without the live cd03:24
lostincIll do a seach for cache03:24
bruenigjrsims, no03:24
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bruenigin all likelihood, obviously nothing is 100 percent03:24
jrsimsbruenig: and this is partitioning we're talking about, right?03:24
fabianggxmy god how many servers!!!!03:24
fabianggxi'm spanish can help me?03:24
brendonjtlostinc: yip   cos i know that when i have removed a package  it reinstall it it doesn't connect to the net,  it takes it from a cache  somewhere03:24
brian98sudo pico /etc/sources.list03:24
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fabianggxi need ubuntu help in spanish03:25
brian98matt__ 'sudo pico /etc/sources.list03:25
NickGarvey!es03:25
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:25
brian98!sources03:25
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:25
matt__`brian98: i can't seem to get it to work03:25
NickGarveyhow do I edit my path variable?  I need to remove something but its not in .bashrc03:25
brendonjt!apt-get  cache03:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-get  cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:25
brian98once sec03:25
bruenigjrsims, yeah, all you would have to do is resize a partition adjacent to the swap, then resize the swap to take up the newly made free space03:25
NalfeshneeLinux utility that allows you to burn isos/03:25
jrsimsbruenig: cool. thanks.03:25
FlyingSquirrel31am i the only one having trouble getting updates from "http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/"?03:26
matt__`err sorry brian98, do i copy the exact line you gave me into sources.list?03:26
brian98mat__' add deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe03:26
bruenigas long as you don't remove partitions, then the fstab will remain the same and you can just restart and take the live cd out03:26
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brian98to the sources.list03:26
brian98save03:26
brian98then sudo apt-get update03:26
fabianggxgracias03:26
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matt__`brian98 fuse-utils still gives same error03:26
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brian98did you do the update as I said03:27
matt__`yes03:27
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NalfeshneeSigh.03:27
brian98including sudo apt-get update03:27
brian98and did it give any errors?03:27
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matt__`err didnt get that one, hold on03:27
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NalfeshneeAnyone know of a linux util that allows you to burn an iso?03:28
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Larry-auRob C. -- are you here?03:28
brendonjtlostinc: hey go here /var/cache/apt  and all your downloaded packages are in there03:28
noigeI have install w32 codecs, mp3's play fine, flash with sound works, all browser sounds work... Why can I not hear sound in video?03:28
FlyingSquirrel31Nalfeshnee: If you're using ubuntu just right click on it and click burn to cd03:28
nozorroNalfeshnee: under gnome, your file manager03:29
NalfeshneeAha.03:29
NalfeshneeThanks.:)03:29
domin8orhi, i download the cd (6.06) and then I boot the cd and it gives me an option start/install cd .. but then it boots like a live cd03:29
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domin8orhow can i install ubuntu to the harddrisk03:29
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bruenigdomin8or, click the install button on the desktop03:29
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mikehey what is gtk03:29
brueniggtk is a toolkit03:29
brendonjtdomin8or: there is a option one you boot into the live cd to install it03:29
bruenig!gtk03:29
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications03:29
noigemike: gnome tookkit03:29
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matt__`works now brian98, thanks03:30
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domin8oroh03:30
brian98Matt__ Delighted to help man!03:30
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mikenoige:  ok then when i am at gnome-look.org why is there a gtk section03:30
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domin8ori can even boot into the live cd ... thats why i was looking to install it03:30
domin8orany ideas?03:30
brian98glad it worked03:30
noigeanyone have problems with sound inside their video03:30
nozorrodomin8or: when you're on the desktop, there's an install icon i think03:30
noigemike: gimp toolkit03:30
brian98noige: is it flash03:30
brendonjtdomin8or: there should be a icon on the desktop that says install,  that will start the installer03:30
noigemike: not gnome03:30
FlyingSquirrel31am i the only one having trouble getting updates from "http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/"?03:30
domin8oroh okey03:30
noigeno it is mpeg03:30
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domin8orwhat happens if i cant even boot the live cd?03:30
brian98noige: is it flash03:30
noigemp3 audio works fine03:30
noigebrian98: no it is mpeg and mp3 streams work fine03:31
Larry-auDoes anyone know how to do bandwith throttling in iptables (or the firewall)03:31
JediWingKnight_I tried installing "udftools_1.0.0b3-9_i386.deb" but it still wouldn't see it.03:31
bruenigdomin8or, you can't install. You can use the alternate cd if you want03:31
bruenig!alternate03:31
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.03:31
noigeall my flash/java everything web based iffine03:31
brian98mpeg don't work, mp3's do?03:31
noigeI use alsa, alsamixer shows that my sound card is not muted03:31
noigebrian98: yes video streams fine but no sound03:31
bruenignoige, flash and java has nothing to do with w32codecs03:31
bruenighave*03:31
mikenoige:  so whats that mean03:31
noigebruenig: I know03:31
matjanhi, i have a problem with xmms (also in rhythmbox), it does not want to read some mp3s, whereas they are read in windoze media player... xmms sees the files but gives them as length 0:00... what could be the problem?03:31
brian98noige: have you tried VLC?03:32
bruenigfrom, this It seemed like you thought they did "noige> I have install w32 codecs, mp3's play fine, flash with sound works, all browser sounds work... Why can I not hear sound in video?"03:32
noigemike: what does what mean? Gimp toolkit?03:32
bruenigbut perhaps you were just establishing that you have sound in some apps but not others03:32
noigebruenig: has a lot to do with no mpeg video streams in the browser working03:32
mikenoige:  what dose it have to do with eye candy03:32
brian98call me biased03:32
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noigebrian98: I will try that03:33
brian98but VLC is the best all around media plaer03:33
bruenigmike, most of those gtk areas of gnome look are themes I believe03:33
brian98player03:33
brian98hands down03:33
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brian98It will try and play an exe :)03:33
brian98lol03:33
mikebruenig:  themes for gnome, then whast the difference between gtk1 and gtk203:33
bruenigversions03:33
brian98and if you want to get into using it for streaming stuff using it as a daemon03:33
brian98wow03:33
brian98it's superb03:33
brian98plus it handles everything without downloading all the codecs..03:34
bruenigmike go with gtk2 assuming you are running dapper03:34
brian98Anyone here familiar with cloneDVD for windows?03:34
mikebruenig:  edgy03:34
bruenigsame then03:34
mikek03:34
brian98and is there a similar application for Linux?03:34
noigebrian98: why is VLC superb?03:34
mikebruenig:  how do i install them03:34
brendonjtbrian98:  what are you doing swearing (saying the w word lol)03:35
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brian98solly03:35
CyberPhantomGood evening03:35
brian98windoze03:35
Crippy-Boynoige: it'll play [almost]  anything.03:35
bruenigmike, go to system>preferences>themes, and drag and drop the link or download it and then drag and drop the file you download03:35
brian98noige: honestly it will try and play a pdf03:35
brian98:)03:35
brendonjtbrian98: hehe  that the one03:35
NickGarveyhow do I edit my path variable?  I need to remove something but its not in .bashrc03:35
brian98but can you answer my q?03:35
mikebruenig:  k i thought they were somethign else03:35
Larry-aufirewall - anyone done bandwidth throttling? ??how-to??03:36
harisundIs it possible to install Ubuntu inside Windows using VMware Server?03:36
der0bis there some way to find out what app is holding /dev/dsp open?03:36
Flannelharisund: I don't see why it wouldn't be03:36
harisundder0b: do fuser /dev/dsp03:36
NthDegreeharisund, yes it is03:36
brian98noige: have you used VLC?03:36
harisundNthDegree and Flannel cool.. are there any particular instructions I should follow, or things to keep in mind?03:36
CyberPhantomDoes anyone know if firestarter runs all the time even if you x out the window?03:36
Crippy-BoyCan i apply the ubuntu patches to a vanilla kernel?03:36
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der0bharisund: didn't seem to help03:37
NthDegreeharisund it should work just like installing to a regular PC03:37
brian98and brendonjt: can you answer my windoze question :)03:37
noigebrian98: only on windows, I was not impressed with it on windows03:37
brian98it's amazing on nix for supporting fileformats03:37
harisundNthDegree: ok thanks .. will try .. perhaps I can try edgy that way?03:37
NthDegreeharisund: but VMWare server was built for Windows Server 2003 so you may have problems03:37
brian98streaming rtsp mms ogg everything03:37
brian98it will even stream multicast streams03:37
brian98and thats only the tip of the iceberg03:38
NthDegreeharisund: um yes you can try any x86/AMD64 compatible OS that way03:38
harisundder0b: I hope you are using fuser the right way.... I'm not sure, but the last time I wanted to know what was taking over my /dev/dsp somebody said fuser and that worked fine for me :)03:38
brendonjtbrian98:i don't use windoze  sorry  umm have you tried k3b it  copies dvd's03:38
harisundthanks NthDegree I will give it a try :)03:38
krazykitso, amarok crashes rather often on two different machines.  is this just me?03:38
brian98does it compress dual layer down to 4.703:38
brian98?03:38
brendonjtbrian98:with a bit of fiddling you can get dvdshrink  to work under wine03:38
nozorroCyberPhantom: in think a firestarter script runs at bootup, so yes. look in /etc/init.d03:38
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brian98nothing native?03:38
FlyingSquirrel31krazykit: I didn't seem to me as stable as rhythmbox03:38
brian98clonedvd I miss03:39
FlyingSquirrel31krazykit: but it does more03:39
krazykitFlyingSquirrel31: the only problem is rhythmbox sucks :-/03:39
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noigebrian98: cool03:39
krazykitand doesn't play albums right03:39
cycomI've got a Sun Fire V880 that doesn't like booting from the CD, unless you do a cold boot.  If you don't cold boot, you get a sparc error.  Invalid Instruction and -256 and other bad bad things.  If I cold boot it, it'll go to loading kernel and then stop.  I have suspicions that it's going to the serial console, but I don't know.  Thoughts?03:39
noigewhy does the default media player not work with alsa though? If it is installed by default it should work03:39
noigecycom: grab solaris 10 it kicks ass03:40
brian98noige: it was originally a linux app ported to windows so I think it makes more sense when run in this enviroment..03:40
cycomnoige: that's not the point.03:40
noigecycom: you askd for thoughts03:40
noigecycom: lol03:40
cycomnoige: bastard! :)03:40
brian98cycom: opinions are opinions03:40
brian98you asked for me03:40
brian98em03:40
brian98I mean03:40
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cycomhehe03:40
noigecycom: if it goes to the serial console you need to disable it in the grub config03:41
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noigecycom:  is this post install or pre install03:41
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cycomnoige: pre.  this is the server install CD.03:41
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Kmanhey03:41
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Kman.?03:41
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brian98does anyone have any probs with x hanging once or twice a day?03:42
Kmanis anyone here03:42
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noigecycom: the only idea I have is to edit the commands that are sent to the bootloader03:42
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brendonjtmust go catcvh ya all latter03:43
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krazykitbrian98: no, not really.  are you using ati-drivers?03:43
brian98krazykit: Yes, is there known issues?03:44
brian98It's a bit annoying!03:44
krazykitbrian98: only that ati drivers suck03:44
cycomnoige: hrm...  It's Silo apparently03:44
pinkyI booted the Dapper desktop CD on a new Dell Inspiron E1505, and there are 2 PCI devices it doesn't recognize.  It says the vendor for both is "Ricoh Co Ltd" but I think that's incorrect.  I think one may be the wireless NIC.03:44
brian98are there known issues I mean03:44
iLikeSpoonsradeon 7000 or somesuch, brian?03:44
brian98that was terrible grammar :)03:44
der0bdoes anyone else notice some evil audio lag when using alsa and mplayer?03:44
CyberPhantomAnyone have a guide on how to upgrade gnome?03:44
brian98krazykit: any workarounds?03:44
noigecycom: lilo?03:44
knixpinky: what nic? I'm running a 1405 and I haven't had many problems03:44
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noigecycom: or the sparc bootloader03:44
iLikeSpoonsbrian98: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1687303:45
krazykitbrian98: but i've not had that problem with an x300.  but seriously, ati-drivers are really crummy.  either deal with it, buy an nvidia card, use the FOSS drivers, or try upgrading them yourself.03:45
brian98Is it really common with ATI?03:45
noigecycom: do you actually have an ok prompt?03:45
pinkyknix: How can I tell which one it is?  The Device Manager says "Unknown"03:45
noigecycom: if you do you will have to tell the sun box to boot from the CD using the OK prompt commands03:46
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brian98cause I have a spare nvidia card 'somewhere' looks at pile of hardware in corner that gf is throwing out tomorrow for the last month :)03:46
deviosaYouHOU03:46
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iLikeSpoonsbrian, also, good luck with installing the nvidia drivers :D03:46
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knixpinky: 0x0832 and 0x0843 ? I think they're part of the card reader03:47
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iLikeSpoons(ie. no 3d hardware acceleration for me :( )03:47
cycomnoige: sparc.  and I get an ok. boot cdrom gives the illegal instruction.03:47
argnlis an unbuntu system by default unable to connect to an ssh server?03:47
cycomafter Loading initial ramdisk03:47
pinkyknix: Yeah those!03:47
brian98ilikespoons I like challenges :)03:47
iLikeSpoonsargnl, why would it be?03:47
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Rookie-ssh is not installed as default, if you mean the server03:48
brian98argnl no03:48
noigecycom: did you give it the right device node at the ok prompt?03:48
pinkyknix: OKay, well I don't see any wireless NIC in the Device Manager.03:48
brian98argnl ssh username@host03:48
cycomnoige: eh?03:48
knixpinky: which wifi card did you get?03:48
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argnlok, thanks03:48
noigecycom: sometimes you will have to give it a device string to boot from even after you say  ok? boot cdrom03:48
argnlmust be something wrong on the other end03:48
Rookie-closed ports ... ?03:48
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pinkyknix: I don't know, it's not my laptop.  Windows is still on it, and I want Ubuntu on it instead (for someone else).  I suppose I should boot into Windows and check?03:49
pinkyOr is there another way under Ubuntu?03:49
cycomnoige: it loads the kernel though...03:49
fiveironwill gnome 2.16 be added to repositories for dapper?03:49
cycomnoige: on cold boot it works fine.03:49
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teimuwhere can i download a torrent of the dapper install disc (iso)?03:50
cycomnoige: but it doesn't ever get to the installer.03:50
noigecycom: can you do a prtconf -p -v?03:51
knixpinky: the nic is on the pci express bridge, should be at 0x422203:51
noigecycom: do you have solaris on the box?03:51
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knixpinky: at least that's where my centrino is03:51
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noigecycom: what rev is your install image again?03:52
nozorroteimu: click your way through from http://www.ubuntu.com/download03:52
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psilverelfhello all03:53
noigecycom: have you every upgraded your obp firmware before?03:53
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teimunozorro, ooo. i see. its in the file listing at the bottom. thanks!03:53
pixelmonkeyI'm running Dapper on a HP DV2000 laptop which has Intel HDA built-in sound.  Though sound works, microphone capture will not work at all.  I've tried adjusting volume settings in gnome-volume-control, but to no avail.  I do notice that the alsamixer command line utility does not show a volume bar for the mic section -- not sure if that is abnormal or not.03:53
noigecycom: I would recommend doing that and then doing a netinstall03:53
noigecycom: appears this is an existing bug03:53
nozorroteimu: np03:53
jordanHybernate and suspend don't work on my macbook pro.03:53
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noigecycom: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/silo/+bug/4011903:53
krazykitubotu: tell me about gaim03:53
cracka12anyone know if ubuntu server can be installed remotely through ssh?03:54
Rookie-!gaim03:54
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.03:54
cycomnoige: it's up to date.  We can't put DHCP on that part of the net to do netboot because of some other issues.03:54
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Rookie-!amsn03:54
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB03:54
pushpopould anyone tell me how to mount a directory on 1 ubuntu machine to another remote computer in the same network?03:54
pinkyI have an unknown device (0x4311) "PCI Express Port 1"03:54
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Rookie-samba - use smb03:54
krazykitRookie-: i know how to use ubotu, i just didn't want it to spam the channel ;-)03:54
pinkyIs that possibly my Wifi card?03:54
noigecycom: see my post about the bug, it is a sug in Silo apparently03:54
Rookie-ahh03:54
pinkyAnd if so how do I find make/model?03:54
noigecycom: Solaris 10! I am telling you... totally awesome03:54
noigecycom: lol03:54
krazykitbut anyway, anyone know the gaim beta repo off the top of their heads?03:55
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Rookie-slackware 11 .... coming soon03:55
cycomnoige: I see it.  Is there a way to install ubuntu from another liveCD that works?03:55
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psilverelfjust followed the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29 to istall xgl/compiz and when I try to start it I get this error: gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images03:55
psilverelfcompiz.real: No composite extension03:55
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psilverelfcould someone assist03:55
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noigecycom: hmm, I would imagine so, a chroot install comes to mind, I would examine an alternate install cd (if one exists) I am using xubuntu as a test (I come from FreeBSD, Solaris, Trustix)03:56
Flannelpsilverelf: #ubuntu-xgl03:56
brian98krazykit: it says disable DRI - I've looked around for dri found the wiki but am unsure what effects it will have, do I lose 3d?03:56
jordanpsilverelf: I don't know how knowlageable the people here are but you might want to try the ubuntu-XGL channel, Quinstorm himself is there to help right now.03:56
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pushpopCould anyone tell me how to mount a directory on 1 ubuntu machine to another remote computer in the same network?03:56
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noigecycom: actually I vaguely remember something about an alternate install03:56
JediWingKnight_I tried installing "udftools_1.0.0b3-9_i386.deb" but it didn't allow me to see a UDF made DVD03:56
riddleboxwhat would cause my keyboard to have the caps light on when caps light is off, and when I press the '-' it displays as '_'?03:57
nozorro!alternate03:57
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.03:57
SonicvanaJrSo anyone know that why when I disconnect my wireless usb stick my PS/2 keyboard stops working and any future usb device that isn't already in the system stops won't register03:57
noigepushpop: nfs03:57
psilverelfjordan thanks03:57
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Rookie-pushpop - you can also use smb03:57
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jordanpsilverelf: No prob, just came back from there miself.03:57
noigepushpop: man fstab, exports, google samba03:57
Rookie-easiest way is to start with man smb03:58
Crippy-Boy /part #ubuntu brb03:58
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moparfan90whats that program to edit what starts on startup?03:58
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noigepushpop: what OS is the other box03:59
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krazykitbrian98: yeah, you'll lose 3d.  i think the FOSS ati drivers give 3d for the 9600 and below03:59
argnlahh. debian bug, pam_setcred04:00
jordanHas anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?04:00
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nozorromoparfan90:  system startup in general or desktop startup?04:00
moparfan90system04:00
noige/etc/rc<runlevel>.d04:01
brian98krazykit: would it be worth compiling the ati drivers from ati and trying them to see if it improves?04:01
nozorromoparfan90: rcconf -- use with care though04:01
Buttawhat gui are you guys using xubuntu kubuntu ubuntu04:01
Rookie-k04:01
moparfan90ok04:01
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sethkButta, I use kde, and I use fluxbox when I want less overhead04:01
krazykitbrian98: maybe.  it might be easier to use the ati drivers in seveas' repository.04:02
bruenigBugsbang, gnome, or I suppose in your terms ubuntu04:02
sethkButta, but there are a variety of excellent desktops.04:02
stormchas3rI installed ubuntu-calendar, how do i start it?04:02
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sethkButta, depends on your needs, your hardware, and just your taste in interfaces.04:02
snerfuDoes dapper come with madwifi on the CD by chance?04:02
Buttahave you heard that there coming out with fluxbuntu04:02
bruenigstormchas3r, try typing ubuntu-calender in the terminal04:02
stormchas3rty04:02
jordanButta: Ubuntu04:02
pixelmonkeyexit04:02
nozorromoparfan90: some basic services can be controlled from System > Admin > Services04:02
Buttai'm just wondering what the masses are running04:03
jordanButta: There have been rumers of Fluxubuntu being officially supported in edgy.04:03
Buttai love light weight windows mgr04:03
Rookie-wm ...04:03
moparfan90whats something i dont need? i dont have any type of web/email server running04:03
bruenigButta, this is an ubuntu room, it is probably a bit biased. go to #kubuntu #xubuntu and it will be different04:03
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noigeI am using xu04:03
Buttadid not know there where does rooms04:04
stormchas3rbruenig, that didnt work,  i installed thru synaptic thou04:04
noigeI am not sure about ubuntu yet04:04
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bruenigstormchas3r, it is probably in /usr/bin, so do this ls /usr/bin | grep calender04:04
Buttait's all the same clock works in the background i thought it did not matter what windiws mgr your running sorry04:04
jordan"The Application "gnome-power-manager" has quit unexpectedly.04:04
jordanYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now."04:04
brian98krazykit: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/ don't see the ati driver there?04:04
nozorromoparfan90: the startup scripts are very interdependent. you need to know quite a log about your setup to edit this without breaking anything. as i said, use with care04:04
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stormchas3rkk04:05
krazykitbrian98: because you're looking in the freenx part.04:05
nozorromoparfan90: erm quite a *lot04:05
Mangix!ntfs04:05
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:05
sethkmoparfan90, that's a very broad question.  Put the output of      ps auxww     on the paste site and we'll tell you what is running04:05
brian98cause I'm a ploner04:05
brian98k04:05
bruenigstormchas3r, what did you get for the output?04:05
matt_is there something that resets /etc/resolv.conf? I modify it, but when i reboot it changes back04:05
stormchas3rbruenig, calendar04:05
krazykitbrian98: and if i don't respond right away, it's cuz i'm writing a paper ;-)04:05
bruenigok type calender in the terminal04:05
brian98no worries my man04:06
brian98all help mucho appreciated04:06
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stormchas3rbruenig, no such file or dir04:06
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moparfan90anyone know if its possible to get counter strike source to run under wine?04:06
moparfan90i have steam installed and working04:07
jordanHas anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?04:07
stormchas3rmoparfan90, cedega will04:07
moparfan90i know cedega will.. but can i with wine?04:07
stormchas3rwont be as good04:07
moparfan90will it work at all?04:07
bruenigstormchas3r, type calendar, in the terminal sorry I misspelled it04:07
stormchas3ridk04:08
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moparfan90because it uses directX.. idk if wine supports that04:08
stormchas3rbruenig, nix@knix-laptop:~$ ls /usr/bin | grep calendar04:08
stormchas3rcalendar04:08
stormchas3rknix@knix-laptop:~$ calendar04:08
stormchas3rcalendar: /usr/bin/cpp: No such file or directory04:08
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moparfan90cs 1.6 works fine. but that uses openGL04:08
moparfan90i guess ill just try it and see what happenes04:08
stormchas3rglhf04:08
crimsunstormchas3r: apt-get install build-essential04:09
stormchas3rkk04:09
bruenigstormchas3r, do /usr/bin/calendar04:09
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jordanmoparfan90: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=373104:09
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jrsimshow do I install GTK themes?04:09
nozorrojrsims: you drag them to the theme config app's window04:10
gnomefreakjrsims: system>prefferences>themes04:10
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gusto5system pref.....yeah :)04:10
noigedoes anyone here use ubuntu in a production environment?04:10
BeepAUhey everyone, how can i setup a ftp?04:10
noigelike a data center04:10
knixstormchas3r: ?04:10
jrsimsI have downloaded themes from Gnome-Look. Do I drag and drop the archive file, or unzip the archs and install all the files contained within?04:11
stormchas3rknix?04:11
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bruenigjrsims, drag and drop although some of them aren't formatted properly04:11
bruenigthe archive file04:11
BlueEaglejrsims: system->settings->theme04:11
BlueEaglejrsims: browse to the archive and click install04:11
nozorrojrsims: gnome-look may be theme *engines*, those are installed differently. try art.gnome.org04:11
knix19:08 < stormchas3r> knix@knix-laptop:~$ calendar04:11
knix19:08 < stormchas3r> calendar: /usr/bin/cpp: No such file or directory04:11
stormchas3rya04:11
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stormchas3rknixtech04:11
BlueEaglenozorro: oh? My bad then.04:11
stormchas3rknix, knixtech = kaufman linux technology,  weird thou04:12
knixheh04:12
nozorroBlueEagle: what i wanted to say ... many newbs try to install engines on the desktop and fail04:12
BlueEaglenozorro: i see.04:13
robotgeekhi, i'm running ubuntu server edition, and the IP method is setup as static in /etc/network/interfaces. however, for reasons unknown, dhclient acquires a dynamic ip after period of time. any suggestions?04:13
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BlueEaglerobotgeek: don't have dhclient running.04:13
BlueEaglerobotgeek: ...but that really shouldn't matter.04:13
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nozorroBlueEagle: art.gnome.org is somewhat cleaner in that it has themes not engines, that's why i recommend this site04:13
BlueEaglerobotgeek: put your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin04:13
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BlueEaglenozorro: Yes, I saw that one now.04:14
jordanHas anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?04:14
robotgeekBlueEagle: but i am not running it, at any period of time. it runs right after ntpdate or so.04:14
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BlueEaglerobotgeek: Did you check your crons?04:14
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[jb] how to place the trash on the work area?04:14
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BlueEagleanyways I'm off to bed.04:14
BlueEaglegood night.04:14
stormchas3ris synaptic better to use than smart?04:15
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robotgeekBlueEagle: i checked my cron, did not find anything untoward04:16
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Mangixpeople04:16
baboOK, i've opened ekiga and registered with diamondcard.us. How do I make PC to phone calls with ekiga ?04:16
holzmodemhi, how can i reset the bootsplash, i have a Kubuntu startsplash and an Ubuntu shutdown splash, that a little funny04:16
LOLhow do i change a folders icon?04:16
baboDo I need to input some special numbers or something ?04:17
Mangixcan anyone help me with my NTFS issues?04:17
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robotgeekBlueEagle: http://pastebin.ca/163931 (if you are there)04:17
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NickGarveyMangix: what is your question?04:18
nozorroLOL: right-click on it > Properties, and select the icon button under Basic. that's only for a single folder though04:18
nomasteryodaanyone here using eSata with Ubuntu?04:19
jordanIs there a good IRC channel for mactel linux ( preferably Ubuntu / Debian specific )04:19
LOLty nozorro04:19
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LOLnozorro where is the default folder containing most icons?04:19
nozorroLOL: /usr/share/icons04:19
LOLthanks04:19
krazykitjordan: probably this one.04:20
holzmodemhow can i reset the bootsplash?04:20
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mikeany good eye candy for non nvidia or ati users?04:20
jordankrazykit: Not doing well so far :)04:20
jordanHas anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?04:21
nomasteryodamike, you using Intel chip?04:21
sethkjordan, I don't think Apple has released the information that is required to make that work.04:21
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nomasteryodamike, if so ... AIGLX works well...04:22
krazykitjordan: aaaah.  suspend and hibernate.  good luck with that one.  it's a pain enough to do it on known hardware :-/04:22
jordansethk: That makes sense for sleep but hybernate almost works ( no keybord input when resuming )04:22
babowhat's the ekiga test line ?04:23
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Mangix!vlc04:24
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs04:24
Mangix!codecs04:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:24
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sethkjordan, almost doesn't really help very much.  :)04:25
[jb] how to place the trash can on the work area?04:25
specialbuddyhow do I get visuals for amarok04:25
specialbuddy?04:25
sethkjordan, I have to fix a bug for one of my clients; I'll be back when I'm done.04:25
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micah41hi all04:25
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PathagenXheeyo04:26
Mangix!universal04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about universal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
Mangix...04:26
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babohmmm ... so skype users can hear me talk, but ekiga users can't. Can anyone think of an explanation for ?04:27
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yoshiznit123quick question: how can I reload a .Xresources file without restarting X?04:27
nozorro[jb] : Apps > Sys Tools > Configuration Editor. Set set trash_icon_visible under /apps/nautilus/desktop04:28
robotgeekyoshiznit123: xrdb -merge .xresources04:28
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yoshiznit123robotgeek, thanks04:28
Flannel!tell Mangix about universe04:28
baboalso, I can hear sound from skype and ekiga, but pandora.com the music streaming service won't work now for some reason ...04:28
baboHelp !04:29
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jordansethk: when I resume from hybernation I get the the screensaver and log in screen like I should but no keyboard or mouse input ( everything seems fine other than that but without input I can't really do much of anything ) I don't even get the caps / num lock lights.04:29
meppofftopic, what command do I use for connecting to another servers?04:29
nozorromepp: try to be more specific pls04:29
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meppI want to connect to another server like freenode04:30
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NalfWhen I try to access my windows partition it says I don't have the neccessary privledges.. how do I go about getting them?04:31
robotgeekmepp: on irssi, you would use /connect irc.foo.net04:31
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KyoLptp`Is there a channel specifically for aiglx help?04:32
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meppthnks04:32
nozorroNalf: try adding the option 'auto' for that partition in /etc/fstab. it should work after the next reboot04:32
richjoyceHi I just installed an xserver on a ubuntu server installation, what is the command i run to start the server now...?04:32
jordanKyoLptp`: Not that I know of but the Ubuntu-XGL channel provides support for AIGLX also I believe.04:33
KyoLptp`thanks04:33
NalfI don't even see that file system in fstab.04:33
jordanKyoLptp`: that is not to say there isn't one...04:33
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nozorroNalf: which kind of file system is it? ntfs? vfat?04:34
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NalfNTFS04:34
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edjucd drive will not read cd-r's.  might some kind soul check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22890.  what's HFS superblock doing there?  isn't that OSX?04:34
nozorroNalf: which partition number is it?04:35
Nalf104:35
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nozorroNalf on first drive?04:35
Nalfyues.04:35
blahrusanyone running aixgl and compiz on edgy?04:35
nozorroNalf: mounted right now?04:35
NalfOn only drive.04:35
richjoyceanyone?04:35
KyoLptp`bleh, that other channel is dead04:35
richjoycehow do i start an x server?04:36
KyoLptp`is anyone here somewhat well-versed in aiglx?04:36
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Nalfyeah.. /dev/hda104:36
KyoLptp`whoops, nvm04:36
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Nalf../tmp/disks-conf-hda104:36
Nalfaccess path04:36
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jordanKyoLptp`: freenode seems to be having some problems currently.04:36
iveneyreally?04:37
KyoLptp`currently? more like always, lol04:37
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nozorroNalf: pls do this in a terminal: 'grep ntfs /etc/fstab' and gimme the output04:37
NalfNone.04:38
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nozorroNalf: now wait pls., googling04:39
NalfNod.04:39
shonencan I add debian apt sources to the ubuntu sources.list and have it not screw things up?04:39
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NalfIt says 'root' is the owner.04:39
Nalfhow do I login as root?:P04:39
caseyomahNalf "su root"04:39
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jordanNalf: You usually don't, you probably want to use sudo04:39
shonennalf: either preface everything with sudo or if you want su installed, first sudo passwd root04:39
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jordanNalf: Try `sudo nautilus`04:40
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nozorrojordan: we want to make sure he can access the part. permanently :-)04:40
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jordannozorro: I'll let you handle him, I'm not used to giving support anyway :)04:41
Nalfthanks.04:41
NalfIt's working.04:41
Nalf:)04:41
caseyomahI have a friend who knows virtually nill about linux who rewrote his MBR with a different bootloader (not lilo or grub) and needs to reinstall grub from LiveCD. He's also having trouble mounting his HDs.04:42
shonendoes anyone here know if i can add debian apt sources into the repositories in ubuntu? what I am asking is are .deb's made with debian only in mind 100% compatable with ubuntu?04:42
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nozorroNalf: to make this work permanently, your /etc/fstab needs a line like this:04:43
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nozorroNalf: '/dev/hda1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0'04:44
nozorroNalf: or maybe even: '/dev/hda1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,auto,umask=0222 0    0'04:44
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nozorroNalf: save yourself big trouble and make a backup of /etc/fstab first before changing this file04:45
nozorroNalf: to edit this file, do this in a terminal: 'gksu gedit /etc/fstab'04:45
NalfWill do.04:45
NalfThank you very much for your help.04:46
shonenthis is the line I use, Nalf: /dev/sda1       /mnt/win        ntfs    defaults        0       004:46
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shonenand it works04:46
Nalfsnicker.04:46
NalfI've never had this much trouble before.04:46
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caseyomahnozorro I want to mount a vfat partition at boot with R/W access to All.04:46
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nozorroNalf, caseyomah, please read here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows04:47
nozorroit has all the basic info04:47
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caseyomahThanks nozorro.04:47
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shonencaseyomah: write a line similar to my last one, but with vfat instead of ntfs. in options, you may have to put "rw", but i doubt it04:48
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TooCooL!google gooch04:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google gooch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
bouncingAm I missing something or is f-stop not packaged for ubuntu?04:48
TooCooL!gooch04:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gooch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
nozorroNalf: yeah, don't forget ntfs is read-only atm, no writing04:48
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caseyomahshonen, That would be "-o rw" if I need it.04:48
TooCooL!google car04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google car - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
TooCooLhow do u use the google command04:49
iiiearsplease don't tease the bot. - he gets surly - lol04:49
TooCooLhahahahahaha04:49
jared777I am trying to get sound in youTube I told Firefox to use AOSS and it worked once but no refuses to play even though i get the system sounds playing with ALSA04:49
TooCooL!enter04:49
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.04:49
bouncingfstop? anyone?04:49
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TooCooLcant u google in here?04:50
Jamminpotatowhat is the easiest way to start an ssh daemon?04:50
caseyomahTooCooL, http://www.google.com/04:51
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brian98jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install sshd04:51
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brian98I think :S04:51
jared777Any ideas how i can get sound for such places as youtube and google video?04:51
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Jamminpotatobrian98, i tried that04:51
TooCooLcaseyomah, i mean the command inside of irc04:51
iiiearsTooCool - Sure can, much better to ask more than one question of ubotu as a private message04:51
der0bis there a way to reset the gnome theme data from the command line?  I installed some icon themes and changed some other theme settings and now gnome will only partially load04:51
Jamminpotatosshd doesnt exist04:51
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dragonriotapt-get update && apt-get install sshd04:51
brian98jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install ssh-server04:51
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jordanWhen I resume from hybernation I get the the screensaver and log in screen like I should but no keyboard or mouse input ( everything seems fine other than that but without input I can't really do much of anything ) I can't even get the caps / num lock lights on the keybord to turn on04:52
nozorroopenssh-server04:52
TooCooLiiiears,  im stoned so u lost me04:52
TooCooLlol04:52
brian98nope04:52
brian98one sec.04:52
brian98I done it last night04:52
axisysis the gnome 2.16 update on its way for ubuntu?04:52
michael117I'm trying to install Compiz and aiglx but am somewhat stuck because of conflicting guides that say to install compiz-gnome-manager and others that say to use compiz-vanilla or compiz-quinn. Should I use Compiz-vanilla, compiz-quinn, or compiz-gnome?04:52
brian98jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install ssh04:52
nozorroopenssh-server04:52
bballranyone know when Edgy Eft Knot's final version will be released?04:53
brian98thats the winner04:53
brian98thanks noz04:53
axisysmichael117: try #ubuntu-xgl chnl04:53
iiiearsTooCool - If you ask the a lot of questions it clogs the channelk. - he can answer questions as a private message if you have more than one.04:53
brian98jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:53
dragonriothow do you uninstall something that installed with a shell script? (sh program.run style)  The script references a generic ./setup but no specific package that i can see in the text of the script...04:53
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axisysmichael117: compiz lates is not gnome dependent anymore04:53
dragonriotaxisys 2.16 is done I thought...04:53
brian98my memory ain't what it used to be04:53
brian98brain full of crap, needs a cleanout04:53
axisysmichael117: i am using aiglx .. i got all the help from them #ubuntu-xgl04:53
nozorrobrian98: happens :-)04:53
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nozorrobrian98: to me as well :-)04:54
axisysubotu: tell michael117 about xgl04:54
TooCooLiiiears,  what is command for google doh?04:54
axisysdragonriot: is it?04:54
brian98nozorro: I'll see my shrink04:54
brian98see what he says04:54
brian98lol04:54
michael117axisys: Thank you very much!04:54
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axisysi know gnome 2.16 released but not sure if we are running it04:54
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axisysthought there should be an update04:55
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axisysmichael117: very welcome04:55
nozorrook i'm off to bed. sleep improves memory, brian9804:55
brian98:)04:55
brian98so do carrots04:55
nozorroyeah04:55
brian98no thats eyesight04:55
brian98see04:55
nozorrotrue04:55
brian98memory again04:55
brian98feck it anyway04:55
axisysdragonriot: i am running 2.14.304:55
nozorro:-)04:55
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brian98night man :-)04:56
nozorrobye04:56
shriphaniguys i got problems with my wireles04:56
axisysdragonriot: what u get system -> about gnome04:56
brian98who don't04:56
brian98shripani: what's the problem04:56
brian98what card04:56
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brian98what version of os you running04:56
shriphanibroadcom04:56
shriphani6.0604:56
shriphanitxpower = off04:56
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brian98is it recognised in network manager?04:56
shriphaniyes04:56
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shriphanibut it says radio off04:57
brian98but you can't connect to access point?04:57
jordanshriphani: Do you know about fwcutter?04:57
shriphanino04:57
shriphanijordan, no i dont04:57
shriphanii tried sudo iwconfig eth1 tower suto04:57
shriphanitxpower ^04:57
shriphaniand it says set failed on device04:57
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jordanshriphani: Just a second and I will find a link to a tutorial.04:57
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shriphaniis this a bug ?04:58
brian98shripani: you using native drivers or ndiswrapper?04:58
moparfan90hello. i am trying to get counter strike source to work though wine. i have steam installed and when i click launch the window comes up and says loading.. then 10 sec later it just goes away and thats it04:58
shriphaniumm how do i find out ?04:58
moparfan90any ideas04:58
shriphanii just have those drivers that ubuntu installed04:59
brian98ok04:59
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mikeany eye candy for non nvidia/ati cards05:00
jordanshriphani: I can't find the tutorial right now, but try downloading this http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip ...05:00
brian98I have yet to get a card running properly without using ndiswrapper but I think thats because most of the cards I have used are based on the texas i chipsets05:00
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moparfan90anyone? know?05:00
moparfan90 i am trying to get counter strike source to work though wine. i have steam installed and when i click launch the window comes up and says loading.. then 10 sec later it just goes away and thats it05:01
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brian98!wine05:01
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:01
mikeany good eye candy for users with weaker video cards?05:01
SpudDoggDoes anyone know how to find out what programs were included with my installation of wine?   i.e. notpad.exe05:01
shriphanijordan, i have downloaded it05:01
moparfan90i know what wine is05:01
brian98mike: paris hilton wallpaper :)05:01
mikelol05:01
jordanshriphani: Then unzip that file to your desktop and run `sudo mv ~/Desktop/firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware`05:01
TooCooL!gooch05:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gooch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
mikeany real answers?05:01
SpudDogg!wine05:01
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:01
SpudDoggDoes anyone know how to find out what programs were included with my installation of wine?   i.e. notpad.exe05:02
TooCooL!spine05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
TooCooLbooo ubotu is no good05:02
mike!me05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
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shriphanihmm and how do i know which fw i need in that list ?05:02
mike!edgy05:02
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:02
caseyomah!myself05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
caseyomahlol05:02
PathagenXstop spamming w/ the bot please.05:02
TooCooL!and irene05:02
ubotuand: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 124 kB05:02
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brian98!schedule > brian9805:02
jordanshriphani: I think you need all of them but I am not sure.05:02
iiiearsmoparf,   gaming in linux isn't always easy these sites can help http://frankscorner.org/  http://www.winehq.com/  http://www.transgaming.com/    #wine   #cedega05:03
SpudDoggDoes anyone know how to find out what programs were included with my installation of wine?   i.e. notpad.exe05:03
jordanshriphani: Having extras can't hurt05:03
Dr_WillisSpudDogg,  none are included.  :) look in .wine see wghats in thgere05:03
brian98spuddogg: Have a look at the readmes...05:03
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caseyomahSpudDogg, winemine and filemanager.05:04
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TooCooLif u want cs source working properly jus download xp from torrents and duel boot lmfao05:04
caseyomahSpudDogg, winemanager05:04
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elfshadow14Hey would anyone know were the edgy beta is?I can't find it now I forgot LOL.05:04
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baboso the ekiga test line doesn't work then ... /05:05
brian98elfshadow14 #ubuntu+105:05
TooCooLedgy aint as good as dapper is it?05:05
caseyomahI thought edgy was older then dapper.05:05
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jordanshriphani: Are you having any problems?05:05
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mikecaseyomah:  nope edgy is in development05:05
elfshadow14Is my question OT?05:05
brian98https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:05
TooCooLoh when is edgy realesed?05:05
TooCooLk05:06
brian98telepatic05:06
elfshadow14oct 2605:06
brian98jeez05:06
mikeTooCooL: october05:06
TooCooLyup lol05:06
brian98it is late05:06
Telroth_Plushie|elfshadow14, are you wishing to upgrade your machine to edgy?05:06
levanderHow come since after I've upgraded to dapper, some package names will show up in the output of 'apt-cache search' but when I run 'dpkg -l' on them, the output says 'No packages found matching <name>'?05:06
TooCooLo ok mike...does edgy look alot better then ubuntu?05:06
axisys!schedule > axisys05:06
KyoLptp`if I attempt to install dapper drake onto an NTFS partition, will it be able to successfully format the partition to ext2/3/whatever it needs?05:06
Telroth_Plushie|elfshadow14, if so, replace "dapper" with "edgy" in your sources.list file05:06
brian98levander: try sudo apt-get update05:06
elfshadow14No just monkey around with it.I'm sticking with dapper05:06
mikeTooCooL: i dont notice much of a difference in looks, but thats becasue i cant use aiglx i dotn have a good video card poopy05:06
levanderbrian98: i did05:06
jester45i used easyubuntu to install sometings but the videos are jumpy and my cpu is only useing about 80%05:07
Telroth_Plushie|KyoLptp`, when it installs, yes05:07
TooCooLmike will edgy come with compiz and all the goodies like suse does?05:07
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KyoLptp`ok05:07
elfshadow14I was hoping there was a live CD05:07
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jester45can anyone tell me if its my computer or xfmedia05:07
squeeis there a way to lock a package so it isn't upgraded through apt-get ?05:07
mikeTooCooL: it comes with aiglx witch is kinda like xgl05:07
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, i have compiz isntalled in dapper05:07
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, you can get the repos and there's plenty of tutorials05:07
mikeTooCooL: and i believe compiz is in the repos but not 100% sure on that05:08
TooCooLo i got compiz myself but it was hassle05:08
brian98levander: I don't now. maybe someone else can help ya!05:08
KyoLptp`also, if I installed Dapper Drake beta 2 to my PC, would it be able to update to the latest dapper drake stable?05:08
TooCooLcant u get xgl for ubuntu?05:08
mikeTooCooL: ye ai bet05:08
jordansquee: Yes but I don't remember how, sorry.05:08
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Telroth_Plushie|KyoLptp`, if you have an internet connection05:08
mikeTooCooL:  i think edgy runs faster with apllications and such05:08
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, yes, i have compiz+xgl installed05:08
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squeejordan: well, it's a start, at least i know it's possible.  I locked it through synaptic but though cli it still shows up05:09
KyoLptp`ok05:09
elfshadow14If there is one can someone link me to the ISO for edgy.05:09
squeeim afraid if i run automatix it will upgrade it05:09
KyoLptp`sorry for the stupid questions, I just wanted to verify before diving in05:09
iiiearsThe installer is a link on the live desktop. - gparted will let you resize your ntfs partition when  you choose the non default option05:09
TooCooLhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22819 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22822 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22820  check out my SS05:09
NickGarveyelfshadow14: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-2/05:09
NickGarveyelfshadow14: oh wait no05:09
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TooCooL3 nice SS up there05:10
NickGarveyelfshadow14: thats.. edubuntu05:10
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NickGarveyelfshadow14: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-2/05:10
NickGarveyelfshadow14: that one :)05:10
jordansquee: depending on what 'it' is you may be able to downgrade it if automatix upgrades it.05:10
elfshadow14LOL      thank you05:10
TooCooLdont ya wish your desktop looked hot like mine dont ya dump dump dump die dump05:10
axisys!gnome > axisys05:10
TooCooL:P05:10
portniice shot05:11
axisyswhat is the latest gnome people running on dapper?05:11
Telroth_Plushie|squee, you can 'hold' packages05:11
axisysmine says 2.14.305:11
bruenigsquee, automatix doesn't upgrade packages, it does an update and then does its stuff. Even if you are eligible for an upgrade because of the apt-get update, it won't install it.05:11
Telroth_Plushie|and apt-get won't update/remove them05:11
TooCooLmike u see my SS05:11
squeejordan: its my ati drivers.  i put in some xgl repositories and if they upgrade it kills my ati drivers and goes back to mesa.05:11
TooCooLu r missing out by not haveing compiz mate05:12
shonenTelroth_Plushie: are you using them when you try to update/remove them?05:12
squeebruenig: thanks, i figured it would throw in an upgrade somewhere in there.05:12
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TooCooLi got automatix installed fine but when i opened it,it could never connect it always timedout05:12
elfshadow14Wow I'm already 10% done with edgy :)05:12
squeetoocool: never had a problem with that05:12
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levanderWhen you use sudo, are you not using the PATH environment variable of the user who's invoking sudo?05:13
bruenigsquee, no it explicitly says in fact to not open the update-manager because often times the apt-get update does elicit upgrade results which will cause that orange upgrade thing to pop up. It won't install them though.05:13
TooCooLsquee,  yeah said something about the key but i downloaded it fine with the guide i used which needed a key to download it from05:13
squeelevander: i think it uses root.  for instance if you do a sudo nautilus and go to your home it goes to root05:13
TooCooLis automatix any good or does it mess things up05:13
brueniggksudo nautilus*05:13
bruenig!automatix05:13
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.05:13
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shriphani_jordan, ?05:14
FlannelTooCooL: it messes things up05:14
jordanshriphani_: yes05:14
Dr_WillisTooCooL,  i say avoide it.05:14
TooCooLFlannel,  k good i wont use it so...i used easyubuntu today which is a nice little proggy05:14
shriphani_so do i go with the mv to /lib/firmware ?05:14
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jordanshriphani_: Yes.05:15
squeetoocool: if you have recently set up the machine, then it probably wont mess up anything, but if you have done much custom... dont touch it05:15
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porthey tooCool05:15
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avrFreakGreets05:15
TooCooLsomeone once told me by adding some line into nautilus in configuration editor you could set transperency on all windows anyone know how to do this?05:15
jinhohi I just tried putting up the fglrx drivers (im using radeon 9200) but now ubuntu wont show up- how can I access the command line before ubuntu loads- thanks!05:15
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TooCooLport yes05:16
TooCooLsquee,  i wont bother with it05:16
porthow can i go about getting that toolbar you have on those ss05:16
avrFreakI installed ubuntu 5.04 on a Compaq notebook which had no network connections. now I have a netowrk connection, but it is not seeing it.  What do I need to do, please?05:16
TooCooLtook me to long to get everything in compiz to work right05:16
levandersquee: and anybody else who will look, I pasted my problem with getting the command to run under sudo here: http://www.pastebin.ca/16396005:16
TooCooLport download a program called kiba-dock05:16
portis it in the repos ?05:16
TooCooLnot sure how i got it but it aint to hard jus look on ubuntu forums for kiba05:16
portiight05:17
TooCooLnot sure i think so doh05:17
TooCooLits a sweet program05:17
portcool05:17
TooCooLlike icons go all over the place when u click on them05:17
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portim gona llook for it now05:17
TooCooLand then randomly fall back into place05:17
jinhois there any way to get access to the command line before the Ubuntu start up page loads (mainly so that I can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)05:17
jinho?05:17
TooCooL!kiba05:17
jordanshriphani_: Once you have copied the files run `sudo modprobe bcm43xx` and you should be able to connect.05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
brueniglevander, appears to be in the path, don't know why it wouldn't work05:17
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TooCooLanyone got a fancy desktop and some screen shots?05:18
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krazykitjinho: you can use the recovery console from grub.  when "grub stage 1.5" is on the screen, hit escape and choose recovery-console05:18
baboMy microphone doesn't seem to be working ... ?05:18
TooCooLcome on i know theres more then 1 person in here into skinning05:18
baboI can't use the sound recorder ...05:18
krazykitTooCooL: yes, but it's not gnome.05:18
bruenigskinning cats05:18
squeelevander: the easiest way to do this, would be to just make a link in /usr/bin and try it that way.  someone correct me if i'm wrong05:18
jinhokraxykit- problem is grub is only there for like 1 second before it skips05:18
TooCooLkrazykit,  thats fine show SS pls05:18
krazykitjinho: yeah, then stick by the computer05:18
jinhokrazykit- haha05:19
TooCooLi dont like kde but i still like seeing how ppl skin other stuff05:19
Lil_Shankwhen i try to run a program it gives me an error that it cant mmap /dev/dsp, anyone know how i can fix this?05:19
avrFreaknetwork setup assistance, anyone?05:19
jinhokrazykit- just in case- is there no other way?05:19
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krazykitjinho: i suppose there are, but i can't think of them.05:19
krazykitTooCooL: feh, kde.  i use e17.05:19
krazykitTooCooL: http://x001.uploaderx.net/x/fulldesk.png  <old screenshot.05:20
TooCooLok SS when u get a chance..whatever e17 is05:20
TooCooLk05:20
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krazykitTooCooL: old and of my crummy gentoo setup.  it's sexier now.05:20
TooCooLhmm looks wierd05:20
bruenigTooCooL, here is my current desktop http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/Screenshot2.png05:20
avrFreakI need netowrk setup asssitnace, please>?05:20
TooCooLsomeone told me enviroment i think its called is really good for skinning05:21
bruenigpretty simple05:21
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, e17 is a desktop environment like gnome or kde05:21
TooCooLbruenig, kk checkin05:21
squeeavrfreak: details please?05:21
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, it has awesome graphics libraries for rendering, and is lightning fast even on old and slow computers05:21
krazykitTooCooL: enlightenment dr17.  it's still in pre-alpha, though, heh.05:21
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jordanTooCooL:  you mean enlightenment?05:21
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, however, it's very different from kde or gnome on the interface level05:21
TooCooLo thats it yeah05:21
TooCooLyeah this guy told me it was harder then gnome to skin but better05:22
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, the biggest difference is that it has no desktop icons05:22
TooCooLi hate desktop icons05:22
krazykitTelroth_Plushie|: pff, desktop icons are for girly men.05:22
krazykit;-)05:22
Lil_Shankwhen i try to run a program it gives me an error that it cant mmap /dev/dsp, anyone know how i can fix this?05:22
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, and the start menu is attached to the left click on the mouse05:22
TooCooLi like the kiba dock i have but other then that05:22
Telroth_Plushie|krazykit, i'm not saying they are or arent05:22
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TooCooLohh i dont like that05:22
krazykitTelroth_Plushie|: fluxbox is that way too ;-)05:22
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, e17 has engage, which is like mac os x's dock05:22
avrFreakhank: it is telling you it isn;lt finding a DSP device on your system05:22
krazykitTelroth_Plushie|: engage is currently totally broken in cvs :-D05:23
TooCooLbruenig,  very basic but what is the program u use to monitor and are u on gnome05:23
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TooCooLTelroth_Plushie|,  so it is more powerful?05:23
avrFreakAnyone: network setup assistance, please?05:23
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, look up the elive project05:23
brueniggnome, gdesklets05:23
brikofwenas05:23
TooCooLTelroth_Plushie|,  k05:23
brikofalguien habla espaol?05:23
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, it's e16 and e17 installed on a live cd format05:23
__mikem!es05:23
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:23
TooCooLbruenig,  ahh ok05:23
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, which is great for trying it out05:23
TooCooLhmm i think i will try it05:23
krazykitTooCooL: there's a new repo for e17, too, so you can install it without building it yourself. check out the news bits of get-e.org05:24
TooCooLis the live cd any good to look@05:24
Jack_SparrowTelroth_Plushie|: Elive is the worst piece of work I have seen05:24
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shriphani_jordan, i still cant connect05:24
bruenigTooCooL, if you like orange and brown, it is great otherwise it makes you want to vomit05:24
Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, i'll agree, all it's good for is demoing e16/1705:24
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avrFreakCan anyone in here provide network setup assistance for unbuntu x86 5.04?05:24
TooCooLlmfao05:24
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jordanshriphani_: How are you trying to connect?05:24
Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, it's why i moved from it to kubuntu05:24
brian98toocool: your an irish lad05:24
Jack_SparrowTelroth_Plushie|: E17 is worth trying05:24
shriphani_using network manager05:24
Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, i've tried it05:24
brian98!offtopic :)05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
brian98!offtopic05:25
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:25
Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, i installed elive to harddrive05:25
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Jack_SparrowTelroth_Plushie|: SO have I05:25
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Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, however i hate the interface e16 and e17 has05:25
TooCooLbrian98, yes05:25
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jordanshriphani_: Have you entered in the SSID? ( network name )?05:25
brian98same here,, thought I was the only one!05:25
Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, i make major use of my desktop, i download files to it so they're there and visible05:25
Jack_SparrowTelroth_Plushie|: Everyone has their opinion...  Mine is that Elive belongs in the circular file05:25
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Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, so e16/e17 doesn't really work for me.05:25
shriphani_jordan, its there05:26
Telroth_Plushie|Jack_Sparrow, i know. elive sucks, i'm not refuting that. i did install it before i knew that though.05:26
KyoLptp`quick! what filesystem does linux use?05:26
Jack_SparrowTelroth_Plushie|: None of this is ontopic in Ubuntu..   Better to take it to their room or offtopic05:26
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Telroth_Plushie|KyoLptp`, whatever you install it as05:26
Jack_SparrowKyoLptp`: several ext2,3 reiserfs05:26
Telroth_Plushie|KyoLptp`, i recomment ext3 or reiserfs05:26
brian98what part of the country?05:26
KyoLptp`thank you!05:26
jordanshriphani_: I don't know much what to do beyond that, sorry. But just to be sure, what is the output of `sudo modprobe bcm43xx`?05:26
shriphani_jordan, nothing05:27
jordanshriphani_: That means at least that worked...05:27
shriphani_yeh05:27
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brian98is /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) normal?05:27
TooCooL elive project looks really nice...very sharp looking05:27
jordanshriphani_: what about ifup?05:27
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, use it for demoing purposes only05:27
brian98toocool: what part of the country?05:28
TooCooLwhats demoing?05:28
shriphani_could you please tell me the entire command please jordan ?05:28
TooCooL!demoing05:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about demoing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:28
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, if you like elive, download and install e17 in ubuntu05:28
KyoLptp`When installing linux, should I install it to a primary or logical partition?05:28
jordanshriphani_: It depends on what your wireless interface is called...05:28
shriphani_KyoLptp`, yer wish05:28
Jack_Sparrownot if you want to dual boot05:28
shriphani_jordan, eth105:28
Telroth_Plushie|TooCooL, demoing, as "to demo" or to just use to show you what it's like05:28
jordanOk...05:28
TooCooLTelroth_Plushie|, o ok05:29
Telroth_Plushie|bbl05:29
jordanshriphani_: first `sudo ifdown eth0`05:29
KyoLptp`my wish?05:29
avrFreakSHIT05:29
KyoLptp`logical then?05:29
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Lil_Shankwhen i try to run a program it gives me an error that it cant mmap /dev/dsp, anyone know how i can fix this?05:29
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jordanshriphani_: I mean eth1 sorry05:29
Jack_SparrowTooCooL: Dont judge E17 by the Elive release... Two different things...05:29
TooCooLTelroth_Plushie|,  if i did install it is it hard to set it up to a nice fancy desktop?05:29
shriphani_ok05:29
demiohello05:30
demiodoes anyone here know a good xmms2 gui for ubuntu?05:30
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TooCooLJack_Sparrow,  o ok05:30
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jordanshriphani_: then `sudo ifup eth1` and past the output05:30
shriphani_ifdown: interface eth1 not configured05:30
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shriphani_umm iwconfig says txpower = off05:30
shriphani_radio off05:30
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shriphani_mode managed05:30
jordanshriphani_: I really don't know very much, mabie somebody more knowlageable can help you out more.05:31
shriphani_ok thanks for your help :)05:31
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jordanshriphani_: All I can suggest is that you install network-manager-gnome as it automatically detects networks and other nice things like that.05:32
shriphani_ok05:32
roostishawanyone, how can i get the latest gnome? 2.15 i think...05:33
maliceI just got a new usb PCMCIA card for my laptop, but when I put it in and connect my usb device Ubuntu does not see anything. Anyone point me in the right direction?05:33
TooCooLanyone else got screen shots of there desktop...come on i love SS05:33
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KyoLptp`what's a good size for a swap partition? also, what filesystem should it be?05:34
TooCooLis there any channels that would have ppl like posting SS etc05:34
TooCooLskinning for ubuntu basically?05:34
Jack_SparrowTooCooL: Check out these cool Icon sets   http://kearone.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=905:34
TooCooLjack,  k05:34
TooCooLJack_Sparrow, can they be used in gnome?05:35
Jack_Sparrowyes there is a nix set05:35
TooCooLsweet05:35
jordanTooCooL: http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/SS.png05:36
Jack_SparrowI have a screenshot but it isnt posted05:36
Dr_WillisKyoLptp`,  a swap partition has its own swap filesystem (i gyess ya can say)05:36
Dr_Willisand size depends on your memory. I always use 512mb minimal.05:36
TooCooLjordan,  checkin05:36
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TooCooLjordan, nice05:37
KyoLptp`ok05:37
KyoLptp`what about the size?05:37
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Jack_Sparrowdouble your ram is good05:37
KyoLptp`thanks05:37
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TooCooLJack_Sparrow, i use the glass icons from gnome.org or whatever the site is05:38
kitcheKyoLptp`: if you have 1 gig of ram swap is useless05:38
TooCooLthey look nice with my black theme05:38
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TooCooLyou can actually see them as glass05:38
Jamminpotatowhat is an easy way to move files across a lan between two linux boxes?05:38
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TooCooLjammin easy noob way through amsn05:38
TooCooL:P05:38
KyoLptp`oh, alright05:38
JamminpotatoTooCooL, amsn?05:39
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Shalonhi guys, u know how to get firefox handle ed2k links?05:39
hondjeIf you have a gig of ram and something goes bad, you'll miss that swap to dump on :)05:39
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TooCooLJamminpotato,  yeah its like msn for linux..jus have 2 accounts 1 on each pc and jus send files that way05:39
TooCooLlike you would in windows to a friend05:39
jordanWhen I resume from hybernation I get the the screensaver and log in screen like I should but no keyboard or mouse input ( everything seems fine other than that but without input I can't really do much of anything ) I can't even get the caps / num lock lights on the keybord to turn on.05:39
kitchehondje: well with 1 gig of ram you won't even touch swap even if something does go bad05:39
KyoLptp`jordan, that reminds me of a problem I've been having (and still do)05:40
JamminpotatoTooCooL, i dont have internet access with one of them kinda and i want to do it iwth nfs or something05:40
KyoLptp`recently, my laptop has been unable to awake from hibernation05:40
TooCooLJamminpotato, ahh then i cant help you im afraid05:40
KyoLptp`so I end up having to do a full reboot, and lose my browser cache, etc05:40
iiiears"linux swappiness" makes for some interesting reading. - comepletly tunable05:40
TooCooLwhy has 1 not got internet?05:40
TooCooLno router?05:41
caseyomahWhat is the grub command to setup into /dev/hdb2?05:41
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Shalonhi guys, u know how to get firefox handle ed2k links?05:41
iiiears!grub05:41
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:41
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roostishawanyone, how can i get the latest gnome? 2.15 i think...05:41
jordanKyoLptp`:  I am thinking somehow I could have a script run on resume that re configures the keyboard or something?05:41
Shalon!ed2k05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ed2k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
kitcheroostishaw: lastest gnome is 2.1605:42
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TooCooLwhen did 2.16 come out?05:42
KyoLptp`I honestly don't know05:42
roostishawkitche, and do you know how i might get that?05:42
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Grok_2.16 came out today05:42
TooCooLhow do i find out what version im runing?05:42
kitcheTooCooL: eariler in the week05:42
KyoLptp`I'd like to find out why I can't resume from hibernation, period, myself05:42
TooCooLKyoLptp`,  dont use hibernate05:42
elfshadow14Hey would anyone know were I can get a gnome ISO burner?05:42
kitcheTooCooL: your running 2.14 most likely since there was never 2.1505:43
Jack_SparrowKyoLptp`: Could you try  booting with both acpi=off and noapci options05:43
wthwwhey-oh!05:43
baboMy microphone doesn't work ... I can't use the sound recorder. Can anyone help ?05:43
TooCooLkitche,  is it worth updateing to 2.16..what is new?05:43
baboI'm using the alsa daemon05:43
detectiveinspektHi I made a new prog in the gnome menu, used " sh /usr/local/myprog" runs fine in a terminal but semi-loads when i go through the menu05:43
KyoLptp`alright Jack_Sparrow05:43
kitcheTooCooL: uses dbus and it allows people to run aiglx05:43
KyoLptp`I'll try that after I get 6.06 running on my desktop05:44
TooCooLkitche, is there any chance@all it will mess up my compiz and themes etc?>05:44
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Jack_SparrowKyoLptp`: ODds are it wont work but there is one motherboard that MUST use that05:44
TechSalvagercan I listen to mp3s in ubuntu?05:44
kitcheTooCooL: probably mess with your themes but I don't use XGL at all05:44
Jack_Sparrow!mp305:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:44
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TooCooLTechSalvager,  yes u need to get some libs05:44
Jack_SparrowGotta love that bot..05:44
KyoLptp`I have an intel centrino laptop05:44
TooCooLkitche,  ahh ok i,ll jus wait for edgy and start it all over then lol05:45
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KyoLptp`the motherboard's probably intel; is that the one?05:45
Jack_Sparrowno05:45
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elfshadow14Hey does anyone know a gnome ISO burner?05:45
baboIs it true that the sound recorder is garbage ?05:45
Jack_SparrowK3B05:45
poningruelfshadow14: gnome baker05:45
Jack_Sparrowelfshadow14: It works great in gnome05:45
elfshadow14ok05:45
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TooCooLTooCooL:test05:45
poningruelfshadow14: yeah actually I would use k3b too05:45
poningruTooCooL: test05:46
TooCooLlol05:46
TooCooLtype this poningru05:46
TooCooLTooCooL,test05:46
roostishawanyone, how can i get the latest gnome? 2.16 i think...05:46
nich0sIs there anyway to play doze games on linux?05:46
nich0sif so, what do I need?05:46
poningruroostishaw: switch to edgy05:46
poningruits too big for a backport05:46
Jack_Sparrownich0s: read up on WIne and cedega05:46
poningru!wine05:47
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:47
baratahi, how do you guys play avi file? I cant get mplayer yet05:47
nich0sponingru: Thanks05:47
roostishawponingru, is edgy as stable now as dapper?05:47
TooCooLno05:47
TooCooLi doubt it05:47
Jack_Sparrowroostishaw: No05:47
TooCooLits still beta05:47
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Jack_SparrowNExt month is the release date05:48
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roostishawJack_Sparrow, how much "less stable" is it?05:48
kitcheroostishaw: it will work but then again somethings might act strange05:48
Jack_SparrowNot too long to wait05:48
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TooCooLJack_Sparrow, is it better or possible to update to edgy or do u have to reinstall it all?05:48
bhrobinsonis there anyone that can help me with a quick mount issue?05:48
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Jack_SparrowAvoid Edgy as your everyday desktop05:48
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TooCooLJack_Sparrow,  why?05:49
Jack_Sparrowbhrobinson: What format is the drive or partition..05:49
jordanSorry I accidentily disconnected, what did I miss Hybernation wise?05:49
Mangixanyone know how to make Microsoft Windows boot up first via GRUB?05:49
torpedo|dogI'm having problems with GDM and Xnest not playing together.05:49
TooCooLis it not jus same as ubuntu but better?>05:49
sethkbhrobinson, ask a specific question and you'll find out.05:49
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sethkMangix, you mean make it the default, or first in the menu?05:49
torpedo|dogMangix: do you have /boot/grub/menu.lst open?05:49
Jack_SparrowMangix: Edit grub.. move windows to top of the list05:49
KyoLptp`good question, Mangix05:49
bhrobinsonjack, it is a UFS drive on a Fedora Core 5 system05:49
Mangixsethk, make it default05:49
Jack_Sparrowbhrobinson: no idea05:49
bhrobinsonI need to mount it to my workstation05:49
kitcheMangix make windows default05:50
bhrobinsonand I think I have nfs running05:50
Mangixhow?05:50
sethkMangix, in /boot/grub/menu.lst, there is a line like this:      default 005:50
bhrobinsonis there a way to check?05:50
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sethkMangix, that makes the first "title" line the default boot.  You can use 1, 2, etc.05:50
Mangixsethk, do i just open it up with a text editor?05:50
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sethkMangix, right.  If your current default is 0, there may not be a line05:50
Jack_SparrowMangix: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst    Remember to make a backup copy before starting05:50
sethkMangix, if that's so, just add the line05:50
shoneni just deleted the application launcher in gnome by accident. how do I get it back?05:50
sethkshonen, right click on the panel, find the option to add05:51
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jordanDo intel macs use an acpi compatable setup?05:51
Jack_SparrowGotta go... see everyone tomorrow05:51
Jack_Sparrowgoodnight05:51
shonenok, in add dialouge05:51
TooCooLJack_Sparrow, i have read about making back copys of files why or how does this work...if u screw something up then how would u fix it05:51
bhrobinsonanyone have an idea on the mount?05:51
cvt|expertmy digital camera can't be accessed; saying it does not exist but it does. how do i fix this?05:51
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Jack_SparrowGuys, wife just came in... I gotta go.. please understand05:51
TooCooLbackup*05:51
sethkcvt|expert, how are you referring to it?05:51
TooCooLk cu05:52
shonensethk: i'm in the add screen, but I can't find where add the whole panel again05:52
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kitcheTooCooL: you would untar the file or undd it05:52
detectiveinspektwhat was that? could only see half a line05:52
cvt|expertsethk,  i plug it up through usb cable05:52
cvt|expertsethk,  then it says camera on my desktop05:52
sethkshonen, I thought you just wanted to add a launcher to the panel05:52
cvt|expertsethk,  i couldn't find it any other way05:52
Lil_Shankwhen i try to locate /dev/dsp i dont get any output, do i need to create it or something?05:53
sethkcvt|expert, type mount (no arguments) and you'll see what directory it is mounted on05:53
TooCooLkitche:so basically i would copy the file to say my desktop...screw up the origonal and then jus copy the copy from desktop to whereever file is located?05:53
sethkcvt|expert, it will be something like /media/usbdisk05:53
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shonensethk: no, I accidentially removed everything to the left of the firefox button05:53
shonenSOMEHOW.05:53
kitcheTooCooL: yeah I mostly burnt he backup to a disk05:53
sethkshonen, I can tell you how to return gnome to the state it was in the first time you ran it05:53
TooCooLo ok05:54
sethkshonen, but of course you'll lose all your changes05:54
shonensethk: that's ok, i can put it back05:54
TooCooLcan someone in here type TooCooL,05:54
Lil_ShankTooCooL05:54
sethkshonen, ok, then you can rename your subdirectory .gnome2 in your home directory05:54
sethkshonen, might be .gnome-2.  note the first character is a dot05:54
Lil_Shankwhen i try to locate /dev/dsp i dont get any output, do i need to create it or something?05:54
TooCooLk so by useing the , after name instead of : doesnt chage it highlighting05:55
sethkshonen, do ls -ld .g*   it will show you directories and files starting with .g05:55
shonensethk: does gnome need to be closed when I do this?05:55
Mangixok05:55
TooCooLi see some ppl put: after name05:55
sethkshonen, if you rename that, it will create a new one and use the default settings.05:55
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Mangixi opened the menu.lst file05:55
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TooCooLno need doh05:55
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Mangixso what do i edit?05:55
sethkshonen, yes, otherwise you will be removing files it is using, at least potentially05:55
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Jack_SparrowMangix: I can hang for a couple more minutes05:55
sethkMangix, if there is a line starting with default, then change the number05:55
sethkMangix, if not, then add a default line05:56
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Mangixsethk, it is set to 005:56
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Jack_SparrowMangix: First.. save a copyu as a different name05:56
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sethkMangix, ok, change it to 1 to boot the second choice by default, 2 to boot the third, etc.05:56
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TooCooLk bed time for me peeps...05:56
Mangixsethk, i see05:56
eaglescouthi all, I need some help.  I got the Desktop CD version of ubuntu via download, but it won't let me burn it on to a CD.  Is there a way i can run it from my computer05:56
sethkMangix, that's assuming you want to keep the current order of choices on the menu.05:56
Mangixyep05:57
Dr_Willis'it wont let you' - what IT wont?05:57
Mangixwell, doesn't really matter to me05:57
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eaglescoutmy CD burner program05:57
nich0sexit05:57
sethkMangix, ok, then just change the number to whichever one is windows05:57
cvt|expertsethk,  it wasn't there. i saw proc\bus\usb but it wasn't there or in media05:57
nich0swow... my bad05:57
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Dr_Williseaglescout,  'burn at once' is a nice free iso burner program for windows05:57
sethkcvt|expert, no backslashes in *nix05:58
sethkcvt|expert, why would you look for it in /proc/bus/usb?05:58
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cvt|expertrit05:58
Lil_Shankwhen i try to locate /dev/dsp i dont get any output, do i need to create it or something?05:58
baboHow come audactity allows me save as MP3 ? ... I thought that was a proprietary format ?05:58
TreeStumphi05:58
sethkcvt|expert, I told you to run the mount command with no arguments05:58
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cvt|expertsethk,  b/c it said usb05:58
baboHow many systems will play .ogg sound ?05:58
cvt|expertsethk,  i did05:58
sethkcvt|expert, you certainly didn't find anything with /proc in the output of mount05:58
jordanbabo: Operating systems?05:59
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detectiveinspektwhen i make a matlab icon in the gnome menu it half loads matlab then quits, I use " sh /usr/local/matlab"05:59
sethkbabo, it is, so what?05:59
TreeStumpdoes anyone know... last time i had ubuntu i managed to get this neat thing on my taskbar that showed my CPU speed, im back on kubuntu now and im wondering how i get it back?(its a fresh install)05:59
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JacXI got a problem...06:00
sethkTreeStump, the speed, not the load?06:00
TreeStumpSpeed in mhz it was06:00
Dr_Willisright click on the panel and add an applet06:00
Jack_SparrowTreeStump: right click on panel and add to panel... see if that was what you were using06:00
babosethk: well, then shouldn't someone have to pay money to record to that format ?06:00
cvt|expertsethk,  what exactly am i supposed to be looking to find?06:00
sethkbabo, no06:01
JacXI just installed ubuntu on my computer, the family computer acctually, the rest of them still need windows... when I reboot the computer the boot OS selectipon thing doesnt work with my keyboard or something06:01
JacXcan't change the selection06:01
sethkcvt|expert, the place where your camera is mounted as a usb drive06:01
Dr_Willisjack,  ya got a usb keyboard or ps2?06:01
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Jack_SparrowPS206:01
sethkJacX, if you have a usb keyboard, turn on "legacy keyboard support" in the BIOS setup06:01
babojordan: I want to record some sounds and put them on my site. Don't know whether I should use .ogg or .mp3. Windows media player won't play .ogg right ?06:01
Dr_WillisOdd..06:01
cvt|expertsethk,  proc/bus/usb was the only place06:01
JacXoh...06:01
JacXthat woudl help06:02
Dr_WillisI got a system that grub wont work with USB> i got to plug in a ps2 cable.06:02
sethkcvt|expert, you said it appeared on your desktop.  If it did, it has to be mounted.06:02
Jack_SparrowDr_Willis: Sorry.. wrong Jack06:02
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sethkDr_Willis, usually turning on legacy support will fix that06:02
Dr_Willisand Legacy USB support - when enabled.. prevents the system from even booting. Lol.06:02
TreeStumpno i couldnt find it06:02
sethkDr_Willis, really.  that's a good feature.  :)06:02
cvt|expertsethk,  when i click the link on my desktop it says the file / folder doesn't not exist06:02
Dr_Willissethk,  Not on this one. :P06:02
JacXso delete while I'm bootuing, ussual bios changing06:02
cvt|expertsethk,  it even shows an icon of a camera06:02
JacXI'll try that06:02
JacXthanks...06:02
Jack_SparrowDr_Willis: I have same problem, even a card reader with no card will hang the system06:03
LaneI have been trying to get my wireless card to work(I have two, and either one is fine) an onboard broadcom, or a usb rt7306:03
sethkcvt|expert, something you are saying doesn't make sense, but I have no idea which part of it you are misreporting.  It can't say that / does not exist06:03
Laneany takers?06:03
jordanbabo: As much as I hate to support a proprietary format, you should probably use mp3, although ogg can be played on any operating system with the correct apps / codecs installed.06:03
TreeStumpJack_Sparrow: No that wasnt it06:03
baboAudacity tells me that I need to get libmp3lame.so in order to record something as MP3. libmp3lame.so isn't in the repos though ...06:03
babowhat's the story there ?06:03
sethkbabo, files are not in the repository, packages are06:04
sethkbabo, that package is in liblame-dev and liblame006:04
sethkbabo, that file is in liblame-dev and liblame0, sorry06:05
babosethk; ahhh ... thanks06:05
Jack_Sparrow!lame06:05
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB06:05
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baboalso I have a general question ... how come I'm able to install audacity as 'user' ... shouldn't I need to be root for that ?06:05
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Mangixwhat was the command to edit the menu.lst file again?06:05
Jack_SparrowMangix: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst    Remember to make a backup copy before starting06:06
Mangixty06:06
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Jack_Sparrownp06:06
Dr_Willissudo EDITORYOULIKE /boot/grub/menu.lst06:06
Dr_Willis:)06:06
jordanubotu: Ironic that LAME became a full fledged encoder06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Ironic that LAME became a full fledged encoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
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holycowhewo06:06
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jordanWow, I can't believe I replied to a bot :)06:07
tomasz27hi all06:07
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cvt|expertsethk,  that's what it says. i'll host a pic...06:07
tomasz27anybody was able to get Dreamweaver 8 running in Ubuntu06:07
jordanDo intel macs use an acpi compatable setup?06:07
Dr_Willis:)06:07
Jack_SparrowDr_Willis: Keep an eye on mangix... He may have another question on editing his grub.. I would really like to see im post it to the Pastebin before rebooting06:08
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Dr_Willisheh - well its almost my bedtime. i gotta do a 12 hr shift tomorrow.06:08
Dr_Willisif couldent even rember how to edit the file... thats a bad sign. :)06:08
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teimucould someone do me a big favor and pastebin their grub.conf (or whatever its called) for their dapper install, standard and recovery, and the memtest?06:09
Jack_SparrowThat is why I thought it wise to check it before the reboot06:09
holycowteimu, ill post my grub conf ... gimme url i'm too lazy to dig that up06:09
Jack_Sparrow!paste06:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:10
teimuholycow, http://pastebin.com/06:10
jordanI guess I'll never be able to hybernate, mabie I should go to sleep ( literally ) and try again tomorrow.06:10
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teimuo yea, is there a way to edit the grub conf from grub itself?06:11
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sethkteimu, no, but if you mean at the boot prompt, you can change the information for that boot06:11
Dr_Willisteimu,  grub has a very WELL documented web site/homepage with good manuals. I dont think thats doable.. but if it IS - its mentioned there.06:11
Jack_SparrowYou can also edit it from a liveCD06:12
holycowteimu, gimme another site06:12
holycowthat one sucks06:12
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teimusethk, when you say "that boot", you mean it wont be permanent?06:12
sethkteimu, right06:12
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teimuholycow, did you try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , or pastebin.com06:13
sethkteimu, you can change the kernel command line, the initrd line, etc.,06:13
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Jack_SparrowE and changes at the grub prompt are only for that boot06:13
sethkteimu, but it doesn't change the file, it only effects the boot you are about to do06:13
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teimusethk, yea.06:13
holycowhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22898   <-- menu.list06:13
Jack_SparrowGoodnight all, good luck...06:13
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cvt|expertsethk,  http://i3.tinypic.com/2afy8bb.png06:13
holycowteimu, what else do you need?06:14
teimuholycow, that'll do it. thanks!06:14
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holycownp06:14
sethkcvt|expert, the little thing on the browser is turning around and around, but, so far, no picture06:15
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sethkcvt|expert, either that's the worlds slowest web server, or something is wrong.  still hasn't come up06:15
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eaglescoutokay, my CD finished burning. *hopes it boots okay*06:16
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teimuhmm. actually, holycow, do you by chance know the grub commands that actually take place when you load up ubuntu?06:17
teimui need the stuff i can type06:17
holycowteimu, never had to learn them06:17
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cvt|expertsethk,  http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2afy8bb06:17
holycowwhat are you trying to solve? usually there are better ways to solve things than what it sounds lik eyour doing :)06:17
sethkcvt|expert, sorry, that finally turned into an error message06:17
teimusome error: not a recognized filesystem (or something, dont remember)06:17
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luckyoneso why can't you burn cd's on xubuntu?06:18
teimuits on a newly installed dapper06:18
sethkcvt|expert, you said it was on the desktop06:18
luckyonecan you explain more?06:18
sethkcvt|expert, that's a dialog window06:18
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holycowteimu, if you don't know what the error is ... how do you know how to solve it?06:18
sethkcvt|expert, most likely that's caused by attempting to mount without admin privileges06:18
holycowi can definately tell you its not going to be solved by doing things with grub06:18
cvt|expertsethk,  do you see that icon of a camera on the destop?06:18
teimualright, alright. point taken. ill be back with the error.06:19
cvt|expertdesktop*06:19
sethkcvt|expert, sure, but that has nothing to do with the dialog window06:19
cvt|expertsethk,  that's what comes up when clicking that icon06:19
dragonriotI just burned a clean warez cd for a client in a fresh install of edubuntu and all I did was install graveman with apt-get... there's no reason you shouldn't be able to burn in xubuntu...06:19
sethkcvt|expert, I don't know how you expect to get help when you don't accurately describe what is happening.  There is a huge difference between a dialog message that comes up because you click, and something on the desktop06:20
sethkcvt|expert, right click on the camera icon, go to preferences or details or whatever, and see where it thinks the camera is mounted06:20
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Arafangiondragonriot: We don't deal with warez here.06:20
holycowbesides, whats the point?06:21
holycowwe get everything free and legal anyway06:21
KyoLptp`I have good news!06:21
holycowwhy warez?06:21
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Arafangionholycow: Indeed.06:21
KyoLptp`grub has overwritten the vista beta 2 bootloader! :D06:21
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holycowKyoLptp`, that is good news indeed06:21
holycowbetter news would be if it wiped the whole frickin thing out :)06:21
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GevaudanHello all...I'm having trouble getting my external usb drive mounted at boot time...if i do a mount -a as root then things mount fine...here is my fstab line, any ideas?: /dev/sdb1       /media/MAXTOR   vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000        006:22
KyoLptp`oh, it did06:22
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KyoLptp`I still have XP Pro sitting in another partition06:22
KyoLptp`for games06:22
mfondai'm following this guide ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse ) to attempt to access ntfs from ubuntu - I can mount and read/write to it just fine, but it doesn't seem to mount automatically (i did add a line to /etc/fstab). Is there something else I need to do to get it to do so?06:22
holycowKyoLptp`, i kid :)06:22
dragonriotArafangion: It was an example... and it was an Ubuntu ISO... not warez in the sense that you took it... I am used to saying warez for any ISO I burn just because... sorry06:22
MTecknologyOK, I did all updates. I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I double checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf and 1280x768, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 are in there. I restarted. When I run System>Preferences>Screen Resolution, it only displays the smallest three resolution, how do I get 1280x768?06:23
Arafangiondragonriot: warez explicitly refers to illegal downloads/copying/etc06:23
Arafangiondragonriot: Explicitly.06:23
chris1932hi, i just copied a bunch of files that have -rw------ permissions for the files and drwx------ permissions for the directories to a public_html directory. what's the easiest way to change the permissions so that files are world readable and dirs are world executable, i.e. like a normal website? (this entire directory is pretty deeply nested.)06:23
cvt|expertsethk,  i made the distinction as clear as i could to you.  it says / (media)06:23
PX-dormantNice nap. I am back. Who has the cookies?06:23
dragonriotArafangion: I should have spelled it wares then... as in softwares...06:23
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poningruchris1932: while in the folder06:24
FunnyLookinHatPathagenX, cookies?!  where?!06:24
ArafangionHow do I tell cp to NOT make hardlinks?06:24
Arafangionarafangion@arafangion-laptop:~$ cp -r .* * /mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/06:24
Arafangioncp: will not create hard link `/mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/.aptitude' to directory `/mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/./.aptitude'06:24
cvt|expertYahovah,  irc.atheistnetwork.net06:24
mfonda"/dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       0" is in /etc/fstab, but the drive does not seem to mount automatically. any ideas?06:25
PathagenXArafangion, you can't go wrong with cp -a06:25
poningruchris1932: chmod * 72206:25
cvt|expertYahovah,  or irc.infidelguy.com06:25
Gevaudanchrist1932: fyi, the numbers mean 1 for execute, 2 stands for write only 2 stands for read only.06:25
ArafangionPathagenX: I'm not concerned with preserving links, the files aren't links at all. Additionally, I want to ensure that everything is copied as me.06:26
Gevaudanchrist1923: err, 4 for read only06:26
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PathagenXthat is what -a is for06:26
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sethkArafangion, what PathagenX said works.  an alternative is to use tar to copy, but cp -a is easier.    cp -av   lists each file as it copies06:27
caseyomahWe just setup grub at /dev/hdc2 and System Commander says it isn't valid and just goes black screen when you select Linux. Help?!?06:27
poningruchris1932: err bad syntax06:27
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ArafangionPathagenX: No, -a is "archive", and it dereferences links, and preserves file permissions, such as if I had a file owned by Foo, with permissions rwxrw-rw-, it would ensure that the same is on the destination.06:27
ArafangionPathagenX: But I just want the dang file copied using my default umask, and owned by me.06:28
Arafangion*files, not file06:28
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eaglescoutHi all, I have a problem.  I burned a CD of the desktop CD, but I can't boot it from the CD! Help! x_x06:28
holycowcongrats to the gnome devs for gnome release ... lookin good06:28
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Arafangioneaglescout: Did you burn it as a mere file on a CD, or did you burn the iso _as_ a cd?06:28
FunnyLookinHatholycow, have you run into any major bugs with the edgy beta?  I'm going to test it out when i get my laptop back06:29
eaglescoutI extracted it and burned it...06:29
dragonrioteaglescout: what software did you use to burn it?06:29
eaglescoutburnatonce06:29
holycowFunnyLookinHat, well so far none of the cd installers worked, i had to just now install dapepr here then dist upgrade06:29
holycowwill be my first time seeing edgy06:29
FunnyLookinHatholycow, ahhh ok.  very cool   : )06:30
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dragonriotuse Nero or Alcohol 120%, just double click the iso, select an application to open the file, pick nero, and click burn. done...  you have to open it as a compilation, you can't extract it first.06:30
cvt|expertYahovah,  actually that one is on irc.efnet.net06:30
holycowFunnyLookinHat, not really, but can't tell if my cdburner is borked or the isos are borked06:30
dragonrioteaglescout: that last one was for you06:30
cvt|expertYahovah,  sry i can't pm you. i'm trying to register to pm you06:30
Arafangioneaglescout: afaik, Nero is proprietary, alcohol is free.06:31
dragonriotalcohol is free? for what OS?06:31
FunnyLookinHatholycow, generally speaking, they won't release a knot release (beta version) if at the very least the installer isn't working06:32
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chris1932hi poningru: it seems to me that 'chmod 722 *' would make all files world writable? also, how can i do this recursively, and make sure the directories are given different permissions from the files? (would i use some test like "if [ -f $foo]  ...")06:32
eaglescout*is lost* what did you mean by that, dragonriot?06:32
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chris1932it seems like there should be an easier way06:32
dragonriotArafangion: how old are you?  and alcohol is only free is you supply the marij.... nevermind...06:32
FunnyLookinHatdragonriot, #ubuntu-offtopic    ;)06:33
Arafangiondragonriot: 21, and it's port I like, Tawny port.06:33
dragonrioteaglescout: what OS are you running in right now?06:33
eaglescoutcan anybody help me with my CD problem?06:33
cvt|expertsethk,  it says the location of the camera is / (media) but there's no camera in that folder06:33
eaglescoutWindows 2000 pro06:33
dragonriotFunnyLookinHat: just bringing some funny to the conversation, sorry. =)06:33
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dragonriotok... what CD burning software do you have installed?06:34
FunnyLookinHatdragonriot, oh i'm kidding  (was trying to be funny myself)   : )06:34
dragonriot=)06:34
Arafangiondragonriot: Though, I've enjoyed good wine since I was 18 :)06:34
Arafangion(Legal age in australia is 18, btw)06:34
eaglescoutI have CD burner XP3 Pro and burnatonce06:34
dragonriotArafangion: good... you can have the wine... I'll take cedega...06:34
dragonriotArafangion: w00ps06:34
dragonriotlol06:34
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xororandhi06:35
xororandhow can i get fuse-2.5 on dapper?06:35
dragonriotok back to eaglescout06:35
Arafangiondragonriot: It very nearly installs Office 2003, btw, I was impressed. (Installer bombs out, and WINWORD.EXE loads, then crashes)06:35
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eaglescoutxP thanks.  I need all the help I can get :P06:35
Gevaudan82Hey guys, I'm having a lot of trouble mounting an external usb drive...if i do mount -a things work fine though when booted up..my fstab line looks like this, am i missing something?: /dev/sdb1       /media/MAXTOR   vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000        0 006:35
sethkcvt|expert, there is a /media.  I think this icon was probably already on the desktop when you connected the camera06:35
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sethkGevaudan82, kernel modules required to do that mount aren't loaded into the kernel when the bootup mount -a occurs06:36
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dragonriotArafangion: I haven't tried installing anything into it yet... since I'm dual booting, I just boot windows, configure settings for games/software that I like, then run them directly from NTFS in cedega.06:36
wezzerhi all06:36
RawSewage_I think someone is stealing my wireless bandwidth.  my modem is going crazy for no reason.  HOw do I check06:36
dragonriotanyway...06:36
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cvt|expertsethk,  the camera icon only appears when i connect the camera06:36
wezzerI need help with grub, I want that it boots windows xp by default06:36
sethkGevaudan82, you can rebuild the kernel with the support compiled in, rather than a module.  Or, you can just add a mount -a statement to the end of an initialization file06:36
FunnyLookinHatRawSewage_, are you running your internet connection through a wireless router?06:37
sethkcvt|expert, when you disconnect the camera, it goes away?06:37
dragonrioteaglescout, does burnatonce have iso burning capability?  like, can you start a new ISO or Image?06:37
Gevaudan82sethk: hmm...i did install the 686 smp kernel whereas before best i remember things were working fine with the 386 ubuntu kernel...is this a pretty simple fix?06:37
cvt|expertsethk,  yes06:37
RawSewage_FunnyLookinHat, yes06:37
eaglescoutdragonriot: yes, it does06:37
ArafangionDang, I can't use cp -a either:06:37
Arafangioncp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/./repos/dst/.git/objects/90/d58da8d4256a642feff99f401dc3a566a39138': Permission denied06:37
portsudo06:37
FunnyLookinHatRawSewage_, Have you setup a WEP key on it?  If not, set one up.  If yes, change it to something else.  : )06:37
sethkGevaudan82, yes, just changing an M to compiled in, in the kernel config.  Probably for usb storage or a related module06:37
RawSewage_bah06:37
RawSewage_FunnyLookinHat, ok ty06:38
FunnyLookinHatRawSewage_, a lot of routers and broadband modems will show tons of activity even if nothing is really going on....   : P06:38
sethkGevaudan82, just adding the mount -a to an init file is hackish, but easy.06:38
Arafangionport: I've already set /mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion to be owned by me.06:38
Gevaudan82sethk: i'm honestly looking for the easy way at this point although i might look into recompiling the kernel tomorrow...what initialization file are you talking about? rc.local?06:38
RawSewage_FunnyLookinHat, it never did before06:38
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Arafangionport: And hundreds of other files have copied.06:38
sethkGevaudan82, if there is an rc.local, sure, that will work06:38
dragonriotok... eaglescout, navigate to the directory where you downloaded your iso... double click it or right click... Open... and pick burnatonce as the program to open it with.06:38
Gevaudan82sethk: thank you for your help06:38
FunnyLookinHatRawSewage_, strange.  You could call your provider and see if they are noticing an over usage from your connection.  They would know better than I would.06:38
RawSewage_FunnyLookinHat, but isnt there a console command to see06:39
eaglescoutdragonriot: okay, done06:39
Arafangionport: Infact, both the source and distination is rwxr-xr-x and owned by me.06:39
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FunnyLookinHatRawSewage_, nope.  your OS and broadband modem are completely different06:39
RawSewage_FunnyLookinHat, ok, ty06:39
holycowRawSewage_, you turn off the wireless and plug directly into it and check your bandwidth consumption06:39
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dragonrioteaglescout: it should automagically open the ISO for burning a bootable ISO Image... if not, something else needs to be done that is beyond me, since I have never used burnatonce.06:39
FunnyLookinHatRawSewage_, there may be some pretty advanced bandwith monitoring tools you could try to hack together, but most solutions won't work in a home enviornemtn06:39
dragonrioteaglescout: if it DID open the compilation and it's ready, click burn and be done.06:39
eaglescoutyep, it opened it.  I'll see if it works.06:40
holycowRawSewage_, if you have the right wireless device maybe you can install something like dd-wrt firmware and use tools available via that to monitor use06:40
RawSewage_ok06:40
eaglescout*kicks CDRs* I can't change my mistake x_x06:40
dragonriotwhen you are done booting Ubuntu, come back and tell us. =)06:40
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MTecknologyI open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the only value is 1280x768, but when i try to change screen resolution, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2289906:40
ArafangionInterestingly, every single one of cp's issues seem to have a '/./' in the path, which _shouldn't_ make any difference.06:40
eaglescoutI know I will xP06:40
RawSewage_I think I'll shut off my computer and see if its running06:40
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Gevaudan82sethk: if i did want to add the support for boot mountable usb dribes, any idea where that would be in the kernel menu?06:41
CromagDK06:40 < RawSewage_> I think I'll shut off my computer and see if its running06:41
CromagDKhow againg ?06:41
CromagDK-g06:41
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CromagDKnvm afk and mornings..06:42
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eaglescoutit's writing.  Let' hope it works. I've burned through 3 CDs becaue of mistakes. x_x06:43
Arafangioneaglescout: A rewritable CD is recommended.06:43
eaglescoutyeah, we bought these CDs before we knew there was a difference -_-06:43
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eaglescoutoh well, i'm on the last one so now we HAVE to buy new ones. :)06:44
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dragonriotArafangion: you still use RWs?  CDs are cheap... buy a 100stack of Imations and never have a worry about if it's rewritable, they cost 5 cents each...06:45
eaglescoutx_x these cost 50 cents each. x_x oh well.  It's still not bad to have a good OS for only $1.50 :P06:45
Arafangiondragonriot: 50 cents each, but the real question is, do you want to carry 100 CD's with you everywhere? :)06:45
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dragonriotno, that's why I memorize IP addresses and have 2 file servers. =)06:46
eaglescoutokay, it's ready to go.  I'll be back to let you know how it goes. :D06:46
varsendaggrhey is there a program that would take a film and break it into bitmaps?06:46
holycowi haven't burned anything in about 2 years06:46
varsendaggra bit map per frame?06:46
holycowflash drives are so large now that its a dead technology effectively06:46
Gevaudan82varsendaggr: if there was (and there might be) you'd have to be running one hell of a computer06:47
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dragonriotreally... the only time I burn anything is if I need to give something (a lot of things) to a friend and I don't want to wait for my upload speed...06:47
Arafangionholycow: CD's are still useful for short-term storage.06:47
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Arafangionholycow: Instead of deleting files, I archive them to CD's, which generally last for years.06:47
Arafangionholycow: I'm up to CD 85 now, or thereabouts.06:47
holycowto each his own ... but i disagree.  its a dead technology, i cannot see a single reason to use cds for anything at all06:47
james_xxxwere there any updates today that may have broken x?06:48
holycowi don't archive anything to cd06:48
holycowi just buy hd's and archive to that06:48
Arafangionholycow: CD's are cheaper.06:48
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Gevaudan82holycow: in my opinion cds/dvds/optical media last longer than hard drives06:48
holycowfaster, cheaper, better, you can actually recover from dead drives but software raid is so easy why bothry06:48
Arafangionholycow: And ultimately more reliable.06:48
holycowArafangion, actually its not06:48
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holycowhd's are cheaper per gig06:48
holycowwaaaaaay cheaper06:48
casey__agreed, my budget does not allow me to go "oh, better buy a hd"06:48
Arafangionholycow: Sure, per gig...06:48
holycowcd's also are not reliable either, the scratch if you look at them06:49
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holycowalso cd's have roughly 5 year life spans06:49
Gevaudan82anything with moving parts like hard drives are bound to fail06:49
casey__if you take care of them, they will not scratch.06:49
holycowafter that they degrade VEEEERY  rapidly unless you get the archiving grade cds06:49
holycowso basically, its a dead technology06:49
casey__or.. put them in a binder.06:49
ArafangionI put them on a shelf, (admitably just separated by paper, but that's better than nothing)06:49
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holycowGevaudan82, hard drive failure with hd prices today is a non issue.  software raid and you are done.06:50
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Arafangionholycow: imho, software raid is a joke.06:50
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holycowArafangion, not refuting that you find them usefull and indeed a valid tool :)06:50
dragonriotArafangion: harddrives are cheaper... consider the fact that time-to-live for most software is only a few months, if you burned an ISO to a cd, it would be worthless after the next release... on a hard drive, you delete the old file, replace it with the new one, and you have made up the cost difference06:50
Arafangionholycow: If you go raid, you might as well go with true hardware raid.06:50
Gevaudan82i just an external 300gb drive for most of my backups but i burn things to dvds once every 6 months to a year or so06:50
holycowjust offering another perspective.  however, cds are dead in the next 5 to 10 years06:50
holycowno one will be using them for much longer imho06:51
Arafangiondragonriot: Say, you delete the file, then go "Doh!", I didn't mena to delete THAT file!06:51
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Arafangiondragonriot: You're still messed up.06:51
Gevaudan82holcow: what will the music industry publish on then?06:51
holycowArafangion, no thats wrong as well06:51
james_xxxwere there any updates today that may have broken x?06:51
holycowArafangion, if you are just doing basic archiving instead of using cds06:51
Neo8750has anyone runing edgy got a custom usplash working??06:51
holycowthen you use software raid, you don't gain anything from hardware raid for such simple tasks06:51
holycowits just raid 1 redundancy mostly that people want and your fine with respect to hd failure06:51
Arafangionholycow: I could select a random old CD on my shelf and break it.06:52
dragonriotArafangion: that's why you don't log in as root. =)06:52
Arafangionholycow: It doesn't impact any other CD.06:52
holycowhardware raid is for high performance environments where r/w and reliability is critical06:52
holycowi could select an hd that doesn' tbreak the other mirror06:52
james_xxxcan anyone see what i am typing?06:52
holycowjames_xxx, nope06:52
holycow>_>06:52
james_xxxok06:52
Arafangionholycow: I could select 5 CD's, and not be worried.06:52
holycowhehe  :)06:52
Arafangionholycow: Heck, if I wanted to, I could toss the older half!06:53
holycowArafangion, you can but all that data would be permanently gone06:53
dragonriotseriously, if I didn't have a file server at home and at the office, I'd have about 100DVDs burned or 700CDs burned just to carry around all my software.06:53
holycowi could select one hd, 50% of my archive would be gone but i would have 100% data recoverability06:53
Arafangionholycow: That data is so old It's practically guaranteed that I haven't deleted that data by accident.06:53
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holycowfor you however you would have 100% data loss and a total of 10% or so complete data unrecoverability06:53
Arafangiondragonriot: Now, I don't like CD's for _current_ data, indeed.06:53
holycowArafangion, then why bother archiving?06:53
james_xxxi just rebooted a PC and X was dead... i have no reason why. the only thing i have done today was install updates, and i just added one of those sitches that allow you to have two PCs hooked to one monitor06:54
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Arafangionholycow: Accident prevention.06:54
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Gevaudan82dragonriot: jesus, how much software do you have..my collection of windows software anyways fits on two dvds...i never bother archiving linux software because it changes so much06:54
james_xxxhas anyone else had issues with broken X?06:54
holycowif its old an dyou don't need it then its stupid06:54
MTecknologyI open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the only value is 1280x768, but when i try to change screen resolution, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2289906:54
Gevaudan82james_xxx: no06:54
holycowbottom line, cds are a dead technology, there is not a single valid reason to use them besides 'i wanna'06:54
holycow:)06:54
Arafangionholycow: Since I started the habit, I have never, not once, lost any data whatsoever.06:54
james_xxxcrap. i wonder what the deal is06:54
PathagenXjames_xxx, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg06:54
holycowArafangion, sure, just wait till your first batch of bad cds06:54
holycowwhen they all  bubble up 3 weeks after you just burned some gigs off06:54
holycowthen come talk to me :)06:55
dragonriotArafangion: I just deleted 100gb of a windows backup from my file server by accident... but it was my D: drive, so I know everything I deleted is replaceable, since it mostly came from the file server in the first place.06:55
holycowi've had hd's fail but never bubble :)06:55
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james_xxxPathagenX, i was hoping to avoid that, but here goes....06:55
dragonriotArafangion: I was pissed for doing it, but I didn't lose anything important... it's just a time issue...06:55
PathagenXI know. It sucks06:55
Homeris it possible to cover lost data from a failed HDD?06:55
james_xxxPathagenX, ahould that be xserver-xorg?06:55
aumhi - how do i change the command that gets executed when I click the 'hibernate' button?06:55
PathagenXI had to do it yesterday and I hated it.06:55
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holycowHomer, 98% the time yes06:55
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PathagenXxserver-xorg or xorg-xserver06:56
holycowHomer, most hd failures just mean an electronic component failed or the head stopped working06:56
Homeryeah there is no physical damage to my HDD06:56
ArafangionThis is getting damn irritating: 14:54 < holycow> bottom line, cds are a dead technology, there is not a single valid reason to use them besides 'i wanna'06:56
Homerit loosk perfect06:56
Arafangion14:54 < holycow> :)06:56
holycowthere are service beraus that can recover all data from an hd by removing th eplatters an dputting them into proper read housing06:56
Homerbut won't be dedected06:56
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ArafangionDamn, wrong paste!06:56
ArafangionTHIS is getting damn irritating:06:57
Arafangionhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/aKH1gm39.html06:57
holycowHomer, if the head however is scraping your platters, your data is basically gone06:57
holycowArafangion, hey :) you threw some good stuff my way, i was curious if i could  bounce it  back :)06:57
dragonriotGevaudan82: I have 500GB of total drive space and 10% free on my archive drives... about 40-60% left on my unsorted drives.  of that, I have Slackware ISOs, Ubuntu ISO and Edubuntu ISO... the rest is Windows apps.06:57
holycowif ya like cds, ya why not06:57
MTecknologyI open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the only value is 1280x768, but when i try to change screen resolution only, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 show up.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2289906:57
holycowdragonriot, you could basically remove all the linux isos06:57
Arafangionholycow: Ha :)06:58
holycowthey are completely useless when you can download the latest ones off the net06:58
luckyonecan anyone tell me why the suid for cdrecord is not set?06:58
Gevaudan82dragonriot: yea, remove the linux isos...they change too often to archive06:58
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holycowyou can also delete all the windows software, no one uses that crap06:58
holycow>_>06:58
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holycowhehe :)06:58
PathagenXlurkergirl! XD06:58
holycowwhich would leave you with 90% free space06:58
holycowhehe :)06:58
Arafangionholycow: Actually, my system is a laptop system, and it's often disconnected, which changes the dynamics of the situation a tad :)06:58
Arafangionholycow: I do have an external drive, which I sometimes use, but it's only 40g.06:59
holycowArafangion, in that case *nod*06:59
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dragonriotonly reason the Linux ISOs are there is because Slackware 10.2 has been 10.2 for 6 months or more, and (Edu)Ubuntu was just downloaded last week, so I haven't purged them yet.07:00
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Arafangionholycow: Six years ago, though, my dad had a shelf of floppies, labelled from 1 to 900, which represented data he needed for his business.07:00
holycowlol07:00
dragonriotholycow: lol07:00
holycow:) ah yeah dude i've seen that07:01
Arafangionholycow: These were not themselves backed up, and where not backups of the data on the computers!07:01
holycowat work we had litterally thousands up until about a year or two ago07:01
Arafangionholycow: I never trust removeable storage for "working data" these days.07:01
holycowbut they were in the 'decomissioned' box for a while before07:01
holycow*nod*07:01
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holycowdragonriot, i'm buggin ya :)07:01
Arafangionholycow: It was amazing how many were corrupt, and heck, one plastic drawer of them had an ants nest.07:01
dragonriot1gb flash drives are $20.00 now....07:02
Arafangionholycow: Sugar ants, with eggs and all that.07:02
dragonriotholycow: not at all.07:02
holycowArafangion, heh actually thats what i found out too07:02
holycowfloppies werent as reliable as i thought07:02
holycowthey very much degrade a lot too07:02
Arafangionholycow: With any data storage system, one has to be aware of the limitations.07:02
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dragonriothow long does a drive platter last if you leave it running 24 hours a day?  would it void the warranty by doing that?  all storage is volatile, removable or not... it just depends how well you take care of your storage media.07:03
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Arafangiondragonriot: Quite a long time.07:04
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MilkteaHey, why does flash in my internet browsers produce no sound07:04
torpedo|dogI'm having problems with Xnest and GDM, and unfortunately I can't be much more specific than that.07:04
torpedo|dogMilktea: Flash on Linux has sound issues.07:05
torpedo|dogYou are not alone.07:05
Milkteaand why do certain javascript scripts not work on many of my browsers?07:05
Milkteaah, ok07:05
richiefrichdragonriot what am i m issing07:05
torpedo|dogMilktea: well, they were probably written for Internet Explorer.07:05
dragonriotArafangion: how about if you were to make a backup to a hard disk, pull it from the machine and stick it on a shelf, would it last any longer than your burned CDs?07:05
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james_xxxok, i hooked up this switch to allow two PCs to be connected to one monitor, and i think THAT is what broke X.... what in the world07:06
sidtorpedo|dog: gnash works awesome.07:06
MilkteaActually, they work fine on my firefox on Windows07:06
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Milktealike deviantart's new menu07:06
dragonriotrichiefrich: just a storage discussion... CDs vs. Hard Drives vs. Flash Drives... etc...07:06
torpedo|dogsid: eh?07:06
gusto5is twinview only for displaying one desktop over two displays?07:06
Arafangiondragonriot: Sure, they would, but would I be able to grab said HDD, and restore it to an arbituary computer/07:06
richiefrichdragonriot anything i can arguee ?07:06
dragonriotyes you would...07:06
Arafangiondragonriot: I can tell you that the task is a damn pain on my laptop, with such HDD's.07:06
dragonriotrichiefrich: possibly.=)07:06
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whitesuithey, do you guys know any tools to download .ram files ?07:07
Arafangionwhitesuit: A .ram file is the same as any other file, use whatever download tool you like.07:07
dragonriotdo you not have a file server or desktop computer in your house?  hell a 100MHz Pentium 1 can serve files... when you need the stuff off the drive, plug it in with the strategically placed power and IDE cables, mount it, map a network drive and have your files...07:08
dragonriotArafangion: ^^^ For you07:08
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sidwhitesuit: wget?07:08
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medic30420hello, having issues mounting my windoze partition... everything else mounts fine07:08
whitesuitnope, i want to download the actual video, the ram file just points to it07:08
Arafangiondragonriot: I don't like to turn servers off, just to deal with a backup.07:09
dragonriotmedic30420: mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows07:09
medic30420let me clarify, it is mounted under media/idedisk07:09
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medic30420dragonriot, that gives me an error07:10
dragonriotArafangion: neither do I... that's why I have 500GB of storage, and why CD-R Media is crap for archiving... personally, I prefer a CD burn to take to a friend's or client's house/business07:10
dragonriotmedic30420: what error?07:10
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medic30420"you must specify filesystem type"07:11
dragonriotmedic30420: is it a separate drive?07:11
tRSSwhich file do I have to edit, to add dns servers?07:11
dragonriotor a partition on a single drive?07:11
medic30420i have two vfat partitions, one mounts fine, the windows keeps mounting under /media/idedisk07:11
medic30420only one drive07:11
medic304205 partitions07:11
medic30420my ntfs partitions even mounts fine07:12
medic30420my fstab file entry for hda1(windows) looks identical to the other vfat part (except for mount point)07:12
dragonriotis this windows XP?07:12
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medic30420yep07:12
medic30420fresh install after linux07:13
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dragonriotwhy are you using vfat?07:13
medic30420i thought it would be easier to get access to files from linux07:13
dragonriotwait... you installed windows after Linux?07:13
medic30420yep07:13
dragonriotok... start over.... how many GB is your hard drive?07:13
medic304204007:13
dragonriotnot big enough to dual boot...07:14
medic30420i can dual boot fine07:14
torpedo|dogdragonriot: au contraire!07:14
dragonriotdo you have another one, say 20GB?07:14
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medic30420it is a laptop07:14
medic30420xp and linux coexist nicely on this machine07:14
dragonriottorpedo|dog: I know... I'm just kidding. =)  I have a 40gb laptop that is getting ubuntu soon as well..07:14
torpedo|dogdragonriot: oh, sorry, the sarcasmometre needs a little calibration07:15
dragonriotso are you using NTLDR?07:15
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dragonriota bit. =)07:15
medic30420fuse07:15
medic30420 my xp partition is fat3207:15
dragonriotI don't know fuse...07:15
dragonriotfirst mistake... and its a biggie...07:15
medic30420my data partition for xp is ntfs07:16
dragonriotyour XP Partition should always, 100% of the time (unless its a VM) be NTFS.07:16
torpedo|dogmedic30420: I thought FUSE was a complex framework for making filesysytems do stuff07:16
medic30420hold on...07:16
dragonriotdrive C: should be NTFS.07:16
Gevaudan82dragonriot: i dissagree.fat32 is fine to share between linux and windows pcs if you can stomach the 4gb limit07:16
dragonriotdrive D: NTFS or FAT32.07:16
medic30420ntfs-3g on fuse07:16
gusto5how can i get something to display different desktops on different moniters?!07:16
holycowGevaudan82, its only a 4gb limit on windows07:17
medic304204g limit... i thought it was 2007:17
holycowon linux it can be fairly large without data loss07:17
medic30420this may be my issue... my fat32 part is 10G07:17
Gevaudan82dragonriot: ntfs write support is too unstable...i use an external drive formatted using fat32 connected to my linux server which i access from my windows pc via samba...works fine07:17
medic30420(the one that doesn't work)07:17
dragonriotGevaudan82: indeed, it is fine to share, but I don't want my linux install sharing my windows drive... my data drive, sure...07:17
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james_xxxis there any reason why adding one of these switches that allow two PCs to be connected to one monitor/keyboard/mouse would break X??07:18
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Gevaudan82dragonriot: sorry, i think i popped up mid conversation...carry on :)07:18
medic30420no prob....07:18
fokusleehi does 6600gt work with compiz? and any good guides to installing it? does it matter if i use a custom kernel?07:18
dragonriotGevaudan82: when would you need your linux install to have control over your C:Windows directory?  never.... so why share it unless you are testing the next NTFS writing development...07:18
b0ysc0uthow can i remove the border lines from the terminal?anybody?07:19
medic30420my xp partition is fat3207:19
ArafangionHow do I umount /home, then mount another partition as /home, while it is in use?07:19
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Gevaudan82dragonriot: i agree...data drives used to share between linux and windows should however by fat32 for the time being07:19
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link_36panyone here got looking glass working under ubuntu?07:19
medic30420i need access to it because i am low on space and have some files i want to regularly get to from linux, i don't want to have a windows partition smaller than 10 Gigs07:19
dragonriotArafangion: symlink the other partition to /home/folder and go from there... no need to umount anything....07:20
medic30420ok, that will work07:20
Arafangiondragonriot: I actually have a need to exchange two partitions.07:20
medic30420but the fiddler in me still needs to know why it is mounting under a folder when my etc/fstab makes no mention of it07:21
dragonriotArafangion: oh... why don't you just mount it somewhere else then, and exchange the data through /tmp?07:21
Arafangiondragonriot: (Basically I'm shuffling partitions due to a need to carry a 10G file, and the existing partition for it is 9.7G)07:21
dragonriotmedic30420: ok what will work?07:21
Arafangiondragonriot: /tmp isn't big enough ;)07:21
fokusleehi does 6600gt work with compiz? and any good guides to installing it? does it matter if i use a custom kernel?07:21
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medic30420i could symlink it07:21
dragonriotArafangion: symlink more space for /tmp out of another drive?07:22
dragonriotmedic30420: I wasn't telling you to symlink anything... and it's a bad idea for what you want to do.07:22
Arafangiondragonriot: Personally, I'd rather not have a symbolic link mess.07:22
dragonriotArafangion: it's just temporary, no?07:22
Arafangiondragonriot: Nope, permanent.07:22
medic30420i just want the windows partition mounted in the same place as everything else is mounted07:22
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medic30420oh07:22
dragonriotArafangion: oh... well...07:22
zeronenorezhello07:22
Arafangiondragonriot: I think I'll just reboot.07:22
bean-ohprobably a frequent question at this point, but will the new gnome version be an upgrade option for dapper or do i have to wait for edgy?07:23
dragonriotmedic30420: can I suggest something?07:23
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medic30420dragonriot sure07:23
zeronenorezmy ubuntu lost the shutdown and the reboot button , how can i get them back07:23
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medic30420zero: right click panel and "add to panel"" you should scroll down and see buttons to add07:24
aumhi - with the 'logout' button in gnome, how do i re-bind the 'hibernate' button to a different command? (I'm using suspend2)07:25
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dragonriotmedic30420: wipe the drive... boot with windows 98, fdisk /mbr, fdisk, wipe all your partitions, create a primary partition of 15GB, extended partition of 25GB... don't make any new partitions in the extended...07:25
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zeronenorezmedic30420, no i mean the two buttuns disappeared from power menu07:26
caseyomahWhat was the remount command?07:26
zeronenorezmedic30420, and now i only have four buttun:Log Out Lock Screen Switch User and Hibernate07:27
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medic30420zero: oh, i see.  have you rebooted since you lost them?07:28
medic30420dragonriot: i am listening07:28
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zeronenorezmedic30420,no07:29
jmichaelxok, can simply switching the type of mouse one uses break X?07:29
medic30420zero: close your programs and CTRL-ALT-DELETE, it will come back07:29
medic30420or better07:30
zeronenorezi'll try07:30
medic30420zero: ctrl-alt-backspace07:30
bean-ohmedic30420, zeronenorez might try ctrl-alt-backspace07:30
PseudoPlacebogoodnight guys07:30
bean-ohnm07:30
medic30420bean-oh, beat you to it07:30
bean-ohha07:30
zeronenorezjust restart my X-windows?07:31
medic30420zero, yeah07:31
bean-ohzeronenorez, might do it07:31
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dragonriotmedic30420: install Windows XP first - on NTFS, do your updates, and install Partition Magic.  Leave C: at 15GB or resize to 10GB, your choice.  create 10-50mb ext3 partition at the beginning of the extended drive, then /(root) 2gb, /usr 4gb, /tmp 1gb, /var 200mb, remaining(/home), 1-2gb swap, 10GB FAT32  (don't label anything, just make them all ext3 with Partition Magic... after it's done, THEN install Ubuntu, and all your07:31
dragonriot windows drives will be autodetected.07:31
medic30420dragon, hmm, but there must be some config file other that fstab07:32
dragonriotmedic30420: the 10-50mb was for /boot, in case you were wondering...07:32
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medic30420dragon, my ubuntu has compiz running sweetly, i am thinking about reformatting just the windows partition and reinstalling xp then fixing the MB07:33
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medic30420MBR07:33
dragonriotmedic30420: /dev/hda1       /media/windows-c fat32    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:33
dragonriotmedic30420: does that work in your fstab?07:33
Flannelmedic30420: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  for instructions on that07:33
medic30420that is currently my fstab, and it mounts to /media/idedisk07:34
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medic30420(wait, my current fstab mounting point is /windows instead of /media/windows-c)07:34
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dragonriotok... so can you navigate there?07:35
holycowmedic30420, as long as that folder exists it should be fine ... but you should create the folder in /media for consistency07:35
medic30420dragon, no the folder is empty07:35
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dragonriotholycow: agreed07:35
dragonriotpardon me... I need to switch to xchat... this thing sucks...07:35
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shriphanicould anyone help me with wireless issues ?07:36
medic30420dragon, holy, all of my other mountpoints are under root, but regardless, why is my windows partition mounted under /media/idedisk when fstab doesn't mention the directory07:36
dragonriot_right then...07:36
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dragonriothold on... need to change colors... can't read shit...07:37
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dragonriotwoops...07:37
dragonriotpardon my french07:37
shriphaniumm anyone ?07:37
medic30420shriphani: be more specific07:37
kwtmI have a question about Gnumeric: How do I convert a formula in a cell to the actual result?  Example: say cell C1 is "=A1+B1" and the result (at the moment) is "5".  I want to replace "=A1+B1" with "5".  Is there a button I can press, like Ctrl-F5 or something?07:38
shriphanii cant use my wireless connection07:38
kwtm(tried asking on #gnumeric @ irc.gnome.org, but received no answer)07:38
bean-ohshriphani, again, more specfic07:38
medic30420shriphani: what hardware are you using07:38
shriphaninetwork manager detects the interface07:38
shriphanibut it is dead07:38
shriphaniit wont connect07:38
shriphanidmesg says radio kill switch is on07:39
fokusleeanyone can recommand some cool linux games?07:39
bean-ohfokuslee, nethack07:39
fokusleei just started using linux07:39
fokusleewhat is it about?07:39
fokusleerpg ?07:39
fokusleefps?07:39
DarkMageZfokuslee, warsow, quake 307:39
bean-ohgoogle it07:39
shriphaniand when i do sudo eth1 txpower auto07:39
fokusleek thx07:39
shriphaniit says set failed on device07:39
fokusleequake3 is free?07:39
sladenfokuslee: nethack: text-based game07:39
shriphanisudo iwconfig ^07:39
fokusleedo i have to run cedega?07:40
medic30420dragon,holy: grrr, thanks for the help... i think i am off to reformat hda107:40
fokusleethx sladen im gonna check it out07:40
DarkMageZfokuslee, quake 3 is now opensource, but the game data still belongs to ID. so if u have a copy of the game, u can play it07:40
sladenshriphani: that card (eg. ipw2200) will have its own power-saving07:40
medic30420by all07:40
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shriphanisladen, that means ?07:40
bean-ohshriphani, kill switch? your laptop have a manual switch to disable wireless?07:40
fokusleek thx07:40
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kwtmfokuslee: Battle for Wesnoth is a turn-based graphics strategy game (wargame)07:40
shriphanibean-oh, nope07:40
dragonriotholycow: why didn't he just reinstall windows first?  I don't get it....07:40
sladenshriphani: the 'power auto' command is for Orinoco (one particular brand/model/chipset of cards)07:41
shriphanioh07:41
bean-ohshriphani, i'd google your laptop model and google, and maybe you'll find some specifics07:41
holycowdragonriot, i think its in the bible: thou shalt not question a noob07:41
holycow>_>07:41
fokusleety all sure beats playing frozen bubble all day07:41
shriphanithen what about broadcom ?07:41
holycowheh thats quotable :)07:41
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caseyomahwhat was the command to mount vfat drwxrwxrwx?07:41
dragonriotholycow: indeed it is, my new signature for forums I think... =)07:41
dkok, im new to ubuntuo.. im going to install it via live cd.. now i have windows xp installed on a 40 gig hard drive, NTFS, how should i go abouts installing07:41
richiefrichdragonriot what did you switch too07:42
holycowdragonriot, rofl, go for it :)07:42
holycowhehe07:42
richiefrichdragonriot irssi ?07:42
Gevaudan82caseyomah: add to fstab defaults,rw,uid=00007:42
sladencaseyomah: -o umask=0  probably07:42
dragonriotrichiefrich: switched from xchat-gnome to xchat proper...07:42
Gevaudan82caseyomah: the uid is really what sets 777 permissions07:42
jmichaelxok guys... whoever is interested... it was switching from a USB to a PS/2 mouse  that was keeping my X from starting. good grief...07:42
Arafangionjmichaelx: Did you reboot in the mean time?07:42
sladencaseyomah: is you use 'pmount' _without_ sudo, it'll do the right thing for allowing you to connect to the floppy07:42
caseyomahRight, the 000 means block nothing, allow 777.07:42
jmichaelxArafangion: a few times07:42
richiefrichdragonriot ahh  the right one.. :P   /me thinks you missed a channel07:42
shriphaniipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.1.1[17179594.064000]  ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation07:43
shriphani[17179594.064000]  Warning: PCI driver ipw2200 has a struct device_driver shutdown method, please update!07:43
shriphanithats what dmesg says07:43
dragonriotrichiefrich: I did indeed... I was trying to get my colors right...07:43
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richiefrichdragonriot lol07:43
shriphani ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection[17179594.500000]  ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:07:43
shriphani[17179594.500000]  Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.07:43
sladenshriphani: file a bug!07:43
shriphanithen comes that07:43
Arafangionjmichaelx: Odd, the kernel should detect it and bind it to /dev/mouse or something similar.07:43
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Gevaudan82caseyomah: shouldn't have gone by memory...should basically be this adjusting your paths accordingly:  /dev/sdb1 /media/MAXTOR vfat defaults,auto,rw,umask=000 0 007:43
caseyomahNot fd0, ha207:43
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jmichaelxArafangion: finally , X came back up and i dpkg-reconfigured...... but mouse was dead07:43
shriphaniit worked fine for a few months07:43
shriphanithen one fine day when i sat on the box it was dead07:44
sladenshriphani: you probably have a hardware wifi KILL switch somewhere, flick it to the 'on' position07:44
Arafangionjmichaelx: Ahh, you're using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then.  What device did you use for the mouse?07:44
shriphanisladen, this happened many times before07:44
shriphanimany = once07:44
jmichaelxhmm.... Arafangion, this all started when i added that switch to have 2 PCs connected to one monitor/keyboard/mouse07:44
sladenshriphani: it will if the laptop's wifi on/off switch is in the off position07:44
jmichaelxArafangion: i am not sure , lol.... i reconfigured 2 times07:45
Arafangionjmichaelx: You may have to ensure that the switch is turned onto the respective computer as it's starting.07:45
sladenshriphani: look on the left/righthand sides, or for a keycombination such as Fn-F5 or similar07:45
jmichaelxhmm07:45
Arafangionjmichaelx: Once it's been detected, and x11 loaded, you may be safe to change.07:45
jmichaelxi see07:45
jmichaelxArafangion: i have an identical switch connected to another set of PCs , and never had an issue07:46
sladenjmichaelx: when X (the graphics subsystem) is upgraded, it probes the size and frequency limits from the monitor07:46
shriphaniwoot i found the switch07:46
dkif i resize my partition, will i lose the data thats on it07:46
Gevaudan82dk: no07:46
shriphanii thought ubuntu didnt support it07:47
dkand if the partition is ntfs, should i still resize it and install ubuntu?07:47
jmichaelxArafangion: right now i have the switch connected, but am having to use 2 mice07:47
jmichaelxi see07:47
sladenjmichaelx: so the monitor must be "connected" (switch in the correct position) when X is updated or upgraded07:47
Gevaudan82dk: be careful resizing ntfs partitions using linux or hell be careful resizing linux partitions using partition magic...i've been to weary to try this07:47
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bean-ohprobably a frequent question at this point, but will the new gnome version be an upgrade option for dapper or do i have to wait for edgy?07:48
jmichaelxsladen: i see, that makes sense07:48
Flannelbean-oh: edgy07:48
dkhmm07:48
bean-ohFlannel, poop.07:48
holycowbean-oh, wtf does that mean?07:48
holycowoh i see07:48
dki wonder whats the best way to get win xp and ubuntu running on the same harddrive07:48
sladenshriphani: don't worry, those wifi switches get all of us07:48
holycowbean-oh, all ubuntu stable release receive NO UPGRADES07:48
shriphanisladen i found the switch07:48
Flannel!tell dk about dualboot07:48
holycowbean-oh, all they recieve is security patches07:48
shriphaniand it is right near the right hand07:48
holycowbean-oh, just a heads up :)07:49
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Gevaudan82 dk: wipe everything clean...create a partition for windows and install it there and then install ubuntu and use the remaing free space07:49
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sladenshriphani: fantastic07:49
shriphanii can happily knock it off while yping07:49
dkty07:49
jmichaelxwhat do i need to do to get it to where this PC will work with a PS/2 mouse?07:49
holycowjmichaelx, usually its just plug it in and go07:49
dkthat sounds good07:49
bean-ohholycow, thats only with the default repos though. i have mine set to do updates as well as security patches07:49
Flanneldk: read the link ubotu sent you07:49
Gevaudan82jmichaelx: two chicks at the same time07:49
sladenjmichaelx: PS/2 is not a hotplugable protocol, so make sure the mouse is plugged in at boottime07:49
holycowjmichaelx, however, alternatively you need to look up th eproper entryh for your xorg.conf file07:49
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holycowwhat sladen said also07:50
Flannelbean-oh: 'updates' are security/bugfixes.  There are no new versions in repositories07:50
sladenjmichaelx: a USB mouse, you can plug in at any time07:50
holycowbean-oh, there are NO updates for stable releases07:50
jmichaelxsladen: holycow: well, this will take some playing.....07:50
holycowbean-oh, you might have non official repos in which case you are taking your own install into your own hands07:50
holycowjmichaelx, well try sladens suggestion first07:50
bean-ohFlannel, didn't know that either. i suppose i should have.07:51
jmichaelxholycow: yes, i'll try that tomorrow07:51
jmichaelxthanks for  the help and goodnight all!07:51
holycow:) he's probably got the right suggestion infact, mine is for when that doesn't work07:51
bean-ohholycow, no, just the official, just a victim of semantics07:51
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holycowbean-oh, :) all good07:51
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infidelwhat's the best software to find a network printer?07:52
sladeninfidel: the 'Cups' printing system is built in07:52
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bean-ohgonna have to sit on my hands until edgy. usually i get antsy, and try and do things manually and royally screw up my system.07:53
Gevaudan82infidel: you shouldn't need additional software if things are setup correctly...do you know it's dns name or ip?07:53
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holycowbean-oh, that is the berst way to learn :) its fun too07:53
sladeninfidel: if you want to find printers shared by MS Windows machines, you'll need 'samba' that allows Ubuntu to communicate with the printer and file sharing system of MS Windows' machines07:53
infidelGevaudan82: i know it's ip nd i can ping it but i can't print07:53
holycowbean-oh, experimenting is encouraged if you have the right attitude07:53
holycowwe discourage it for noobs with the wrong attitude however07:53
aumping07:53
Gevaudan82infidel: do you have it's drivers?07:54
bean-ohholycow, oh i know, i've been breaking linux systems since the 2.2 kernel. just new to ubuntu.07:54
infidelGevaudan82: yeah i do07:54
holycowbean-oh, hehe :) sweet07:54
infidelGevaudan82: they are in cupsd07:54
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infidelGevaudan82: or cups07:54
Flannelbean-oh: well, you can try out edgy currently.  It'll be beta in two weeks, at that.07:54
Gevaudan82infidel: hmm...honestly i've only configured network printers using samba so i won't be of much help from here on out...anybody else?07:55
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bean-ohFlannel, yeah, i might give a go with the beta. i have an extra laptop to mess with. didnd't really want to get involved with anything alpha07:55
infidelGevaudan82: when i clicked on smb when setting up it kept asking me for a password07:55
aummany thanks to ubuntu devs and other personnel - you've saved me many hours of pain setting up my new workstation (compared to debian)07:56
Flannelbean-oh: well, you can always dualboot, if youve got extra space but no extra machine07:56
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Gevaudan82infidel: if that printers is directly connected to the network meanign it has an ethernet port and ip you don't need samba07:56
infidelGevaudan82: it is07:56
bean-ohFlannel, yeah. might do that.07:56
bean-ohgnite all.07:56
Gevaudan82infidel: but for future reference...smbpasswd -a username creates a samba username and prompts you for the password07:57
justin_Does anyone know what is the best AGP aperture size in Ubuntu, for a card with 64MB video ram and 256mb system ram --> 128mb?07:57
Arafangionjustin_: Leave it unspecified07:58
justin_Arafangion: I do not have that option in my bios.. :(07:58
justin_I checked.. I only have 64-25607:58
infidelGevaudan82: can i scan the network for a printer?07:58
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jshrivergreetings everyone.07:59
jshriverhope everyone is well :)07:59
justin_jshriver: As good as possible I suppose ;D07:59
jshriverI'm curious.. one reason I love Ubuntu is the much larger software collection compared to Debian..08:00
Arafangionjustin_: Do a googoe for "AGP Apeture", quite a few very informative results, especially result #208:00
jshriverhowever I'm suprised.. pose isn't listed08:00
zeronenorezanyone met the problem of can't Choosing Shut down from GNOME Power menu here?08:00
Gevaudan82infidel: if you already know the printer ip there's no need to scan...you've tried ubuntu's network printer configuration and it didn't work?08:00
holycowjshriver, dude08:00
justin_Arafangion: Ok, thank you.08:00
holycowjshriver, please stop talking now08:00
jshriverholycow, ?08:00
holycowjshriver, thats completely stupid08:00
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Arafangionjustin_: Of course, this is assuming that the setting makes any difference once the OS loads.08:00
justin_zeronenorez: Xfce4 here :P08:00
holycowjshriver, ubuntu freezes debian unstable every 6 months08:00
jshriverholycow, ?08:00
holycowjshriver, effectively ubuntu is debian + modifications 10 million per year buys you08:01
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BHSPitMonkeyhey alll08:01
zeronenorezjustin_, u all use Xfce4?08:01
jshriverWell I ran debian for several years... while it was nice.. adding universe/multiverse there's a lot more software to grab..08:01
e-typezeronenorez: I've had that08:01
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BHSPitMonkeys/alll/all/08:01
Gevaudan82jshriver: even compared to debian, redhat/centos has it beat in my opinion if you enable all the extra repos...but apt-get is so much faster08:01
flasherwithout rebooting or logging out, is there a way to run a program (and just that one program) as a different user, while having all other programs running just the way they are?08:01
holycowjshriver, dude stop saying shit you don't understand08:01
zeronenoreze-type,and u solved it?08:01
justin_Arafangion: Oh it does, you will notice it if you have a card with 64mb of ram, since I have changed it to 128 I have noticed that .. when the disk is accessed the mouse stalls - yet, video is faster .. especially flash video.08:01
e-typezeronenorez: think adding a visudo line for /sbin/shutdown fixed it, but not sure if that's the ubuntu way08:01
jshriverholycow, either way Ubuntu has more software available via apt-get than Debian..08:01
justin_zeronenorez: Yes sir08:01
holycowjshriver, the exact same software from debian is in ubuntu08:01
holycowsame software sam enumber of software08:01
jshriveraye.. but holycow offers more08:01
holycowno ti doesn't offer more08:01
holycowit has the same software you retard08:01
jshriverer s/holycow/ubuntu08:01
zeronenorezjustin_, :D ur funny08:02
justin_I cannot stand Gnome, or Kde - Xfce is perfect in my opinion well XFCE4 anyways - I probably will not upgrade to the next version :D08:02
jshriverthen why can't I apt-get install pose?08:02
zeronenoreze-type, i'll try08:02
holycowsaying stupid stuff like that in here is bad it spreads wrong information to noobs that may not be aware08:02
holycowstop that08:02
BHSPitMonkeygot an issue: usually when I close my laptop lid, I re-open it, and get my screensaver lock. yay. sometimes (now) I'll open it, and the screen decides not to even turn on. I'll switch VT's, to no avail. it seems like it's running fine, beneath that black screen...08:02
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Arafangionjustin_: Really?  I'll have to see if my BIOS has that option too, as I have an ATI graphics card with 64 MB of dedicated graphics memory on my laptop. (And I always like to make it faster for my 3D programming)08:02
justin_zeronenorez: Amusing? - perhaps, if amusing to you means having more CPU/RAM time for things that I actually want to do. :P08:02
jshriverholycow, then tell me .. how do I apt-get install the binary only Nvidia drivers for my card.. in Debian? can do it in Ubuntu using the non-free section? ...08:02
jshriveranyway.. want to get pose installed "Palm Emulator"08:03
Gevaudan82BHSPitMonkey: most laptops encounter this at one point or another...it's hardware specific though so search specifically for your laptop08:03
jshriverand it's not in my cache08:03
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holycow*sigh* jshriver please be quiet. the more you talk the dumber you sound08:03
e-typejustin_: sjees man, what do you care about people's environments of choice08:03
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justin_Arafangion: Indeed if you raise it from 64mb aperture, to 128 - it will perform quicker especially if you pass pageflip, and accelmethod options to XORG.08:03
jshriverI dont mind being "dumb" but if you teach me I'll learn08:03
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aumjshriver: there's an easier way - just install the kernel-headers package for your running kernel, then download/install the nvidia driver from the nvidia site08:03
zeronenorezjustin_,can u give me a screenshut of Xfce408:03
Gevaudan82jshriver: will you be my student?08:03
e-typezeronenorez: check their website ;)08:04
Arafangionjustin_: I'm using the proprietary ati drivers.08:04
jshriveraum: aye that's what I use to do... but in Ubuntu I can just apt-get install them w/o having to go threw the trouble08:04
justin_e-type: I do not I simply made a statement that I prefer XFCE is all - I think it is all about choice ;)08:04
Arafangionjustin_: Could you put up a website detailing your optimizations?08:04
jshriverUbuntu, at least from what I've seen, isn't as anal as debian08:04
Gevaudan82justin_: that website needs to be done in the next two hours btw08:04
e-typejustin_: how many times do you think we all saw your reasons?08:04
justin_Arafangion: Sure I could - however not this evening, if you see me again - I will have the info posted BUT I am not using fglrx, but "radeon"08:04
jshriverDebian is 100% pure GPL..08:04
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zeronenorezi don't like the official screenchut, i want to know how it could be changed ;D08:05
jshriverUbuntu is 100% whatever works under linux, and is freely available.. w/o having to buy08:05
jshriveram I wrong in that sense?08:05
justin_e-type: I am not sure - have you been counting?, give me the total.08:05
Arafangionjshriver: Incorrect.08:05
zeronenoreze-type, i don't like the official screenchut, i want to know how it could be changed ;D08:05
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jshriverI somewhat agree Ubuntu has everything debian has.. but there's more08:05
BeShaMohey, I'm having problems with skim in kubuntu, all but smart pinyin seems to work, but it's smart pinyin I really need08:05
jshriverok here's a simple concrete, example08:05
aumhow does ubuntu make its $$ ?08:05
jshriverxorg?08:05
justin_zeronenorez: Well official will be good, I use it vanilla :P08:05
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jshriverneed I say more08:05
infidelGevaudan82: no it didn't work08:05
Arafangionjshriver: Debian Etch.08:05
Gevaudan82aum: a rich investor08:05
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meal3837!bios08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:05
holycowjshriver, ubuntyu repos = debian repost ,its that simple08:05
Gevaudan82aum: the guy who is funding it in other words08:05
Arafangionjshriver: Debian Etch uses xorg.08:06
aumGevaudan82, mainly just one guy?08:06
holycowjshriver, having a handfull of prepackaged apps that you can also get installed on debian with a few extra commands is not really saying IT HAS MORE SOFTWARE08:06
meal3837does anyone know how I can update my BIOS?08:06
jshriverDebian wont touch Xorg because of the non GPL restrictions of the hardware restrictions in the non-GPL drivers... but Ubuntu does.. which is one reason I like it08:06
Gevaudan82aum: mainly yes...he hired a bunch of the hard core debian developers...wiki has a good article on it08:06
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justin_meal3837: Consult your manufacturer - or bios maker..08:06
holycowjshriver, ubuntu and debian old timers are telling you they are the same, therefore they are08:06
jshriver*sigh*08:06
Arafangionjshriver: Bullshit, are you LISTENING?08:06
zeronenorezjustin_, thx i gonna to change it,too :P08:07
jshriverI really dont care... ok I'm wrong you are right.. my almighty Liunx lords..08:07
justin_meal3837: It is usually downloading a floppy image and rebooting - until the update is complete, however if you mess up or lose power - you will need a new bios, and if its sodered.. oh boy.08:07
aumubuntu is like debian, but it's 92% ready for average users (compared to debian at 37% ready)08:07
jshriverthen please take pitty on my soul and please tell me.. how do I get either from dpkg/apt.... or from source pose?08:07
justin_zeronenorez: :P08:07
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jshriverI downloaded it... tried compiling from source and it doesnt compile08:07
holycowjshriver, its not about right or wrong, its about listening.  some things are well known, comming into this channel claiming somiething that is clearly wrong simply requires a little bit of humbleness to consider that you might indeed be wrong08:07
sunnz2Does anyone know how to run a wmaker remotely?08:07
justin_jshriver: Look at the error messages, and download libs.08:07
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jshriverI'll agree I might be wrong.. I didnt know.. or at least had the wrong perspective..08:08
Arafangionjshriver: Such as randomly assuming that all of debian's software is GPL, or even GPL compatible.08:08
jshriververy sorry08:08
jshriver:(08:08
e-typesunnz2: remotely using what? vnc, xdmcp, X11 over ssh, ... ?08:08
justin_Also if you are in dapper, and have not yet - you will need to sudo apt-get build-essential08:08
holycowno need to be sorry, all good dude :)08:08
sunnz2X11 over ssh, e-type;08:08
Arafangionjshriver: Debian is also widely recognized for being the largest distro in terms of number of software programs in their repos.08:08
holycowubuntu wouldnt exist without debian08:09
meal3837hmm, the only updates i have been able to find say they are only compatible with windows08:09
jshriverI love GPL, but personaly I dont let it rule my computing experiance.. I use Linux because it's stable, gives me a wonderful shell and I can do anything I want in it... but I wont let the GPL gospel rule it.. heck I even bought Nero for Linux... so commercial, GPL, BSD I'm really not concerned.. I just want a syste that meets my neds08:09
holycowjshriver, debian isn't all about gpl08:09
holycowinfact debian ships a shitload of non gpl stuff08:09
holycowplease stop spewing crap08:09
holycowmk?08:09
jshriverArafangion, I wont argue with that.. I still run Debian on 14 computers... and ran it as my main desktop for nearly 5 years...08:09
Arafangionholycow: Thanks. :)08:09
justin_meal3837: Umm.. that is strange because usually you do not actually update your BIOS in any operating system, seeing as you need to boot to a disk --- unless it stores the info in a folder, and then reboots.08:10
Arafangionjshriver: Yet you display a surprising lack of knowledge about Debian.08:10
holycowjshriver, then how can you possible be saying such stupid things?08:10
jshriverok I didnt know.. it was something I had thought to be true, but see now that it isnt..08:10
sunnz2Anyone know how to run wmaker remotely via X11 on ssh?08:10
jshriverhonestly and humbly I'm sorry..08:10
holycowjshriver, i don't believe for one second that you run debian08:10
dfgasis there any good video editing software on linux free?08:10
dfgasor any at al08:10
e-typesunnz2: did you try to follow this? http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html08:10
caseyomahHow do I make a symbolic link to a mount point to place on my desktop?08:10
meal3837damn hp08:10
caseyomahman symbolic08:10
Gevaudan82Arafangion: i'll be the first one to say...debian's install absolutely sucks..specifically picking out enough packages to get a base system with a GUI with minimal bloat in order to install whatever you want from there08:10
meal3837"we do not recommend installing any operating system"08:11
aumcaseyomah: ln -s /path/to/mountpoint ~/Desktop/name-of-mountpoint08:11
meal3837morons08:11
dragonriotjshriver: you bought Nero for linux?  WTF is wrong with graveman?  too many deps for you?08:11
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holycowGevaudan82, well it doesn't your incorrectly categorizing di08:11
jshriverholycow, hrm.. why else do you think I chose Debian? I've been running Linux since '95, started debian around 01.. fel in love with apt-get :) and dpkg...a friend gave me an ubuntu CD.. and it fixed some problems I was having with Debian.08:11
e-typecaseyomah: drag and drop in nautilus with one of the modifiers will ask you the question to move/link/copy08:11
jshrivergravemen?08:11
holycowGevaudan82, you want a desktop, debian lets you select desktop environment, server etc.08:11
ArafangionGevaudan82: It's baised for servers, imho, but the install isn't honestly that bad. Tasksel is excellent.08:11
holycowGevaudan82, its really not that difficult08:11
holycowGevaudan82, what debian doesn't do is add all the spit and polish08:11
justin_Gevaudan82: Well debian is really aimed towards the experienced Linux user : Who usually has something specific he wants to do with the machine, if you look at it that way it is a great install system.08:11
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holycowGevaudan82, at one time i thought i could do what ubuntu has done ... polsih up debian desktop experience with a coupla part time coders08:12
aumalso debian doesn't have the desktop integration that ubuntu has08:12
ArafangionThe Etch installer is really good, for instance.08:12
holycowit turns out you need 10 mil a year to do it right :)08:12
holycowaum, thats wrong too08:12
Gevaudan82maybe i'm just biased for it not detecting my hardware and refusing to boot x...fedora,centos,ubuntu,suse all did that08:12
jshriverI tried xcdroast tried installing the binary-only DVD program.. finally got it to work, but you had to premaster the iso using mkisofs.. and tried the Nero demo.. I can burn a DVD w/o pre-mastering ISO's in 15min... what's wrong with paying for good service.. I dont mind paying someone for their work08:12
holycowdebian has EVERYTHIGN UBUNTU HAS08:12
sunnz2e-type, it just says play with .xsession or .xrc08:12
holycowyou just haveto do it your self08:12
jshriverbut what's graveman? checking apt now08:12
ArafangionThe only thing that made me install Ubuntu on this particular laptop was because Debian Etch doesn't support my wifi (Sarge did, but not my video, and I really didn't want to use Sid again)08:12
richiefrichjshriver: why not use the cmd line ?08:12
sunnz2But I want to do something like forward it to Xnest or something.08:12
richiefrichffs it SO easy08:12
jshriverI do use cmdline 95% of the time08:12
holycowyou know i really need to start a myth debunking thing on the wiki08:12
Arafangionholycow: Don't bother.08:13
holycowa whole lot of people here completely misunderstand debian08:13
jshriverbut I didnt like having to pre-build and ISO for building when I can build on the fly08:13
aumholycow, Linux From Scratch has everything ubuntu has, you just have to do it yourself :P08:13
richiefrichjshriver it seems not..08:13
holycowaum, bingo08:13
holycow:)08:13
zeronenoreze-type, u mean add to  /etc/acpi/lid.sh ?08:13
Arafangionholycow: Those who spread the myth won't read it.08:13
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holycowArafangion, *sigh* perhaps08:13
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richiefrichjshriver pre building it's one cmd08:13
Arafangionaum: I've been thinking that I should do lfs again, except set it up like OpenBSD.08:13
jshriverwhat do you do when you only have 1gig free? and need to burn off a DVD to free up some space? if you are forced to pre-author a ISO you're screwed..08:13
caseyomahe-type, Okay, I asked the wrong question... How do I make a "device icon" for a mount point on the desktop.08:13
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justin_jshriver: Buy a new hardisk?08:14
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justin_:P08:14
jshriverrichiefrich, aye mkisofs is a wonderful program.. and I use it ever so often08:14
jshriverjustin_, I can't afford it..08:14
e-typesunnz2: Xnest doesn't support ssh afaik, only plain X11 over tcp/ip which you should of course be able to tunnel over ssh08:14
ashucan anybody help me with live cd issue.08:14
jshriversigh..08:14
justin_Simp08:14
aumArafangion: /me tried some source-based distros like gentoo and sm, got no real advantage from them, now appreciates ubuntu's comforts08:14
e-typesunnz2: try a plain xdmcp or vnc server, a lot easier and more performant08:14
richiefrichjshriver  1st of why would you get so low.. 2nd off.. you dont tink that the "one the fly" takes HDD space08:14
Gevaudan82holycow: i understand the concept of a server os...isn't centos that at it's core? but debian's install procedure is enough to put off anybody08:14
jshriverOk I realise noone is going to help me...but before I go I'm truly and very sorry I upset anyone here..08:14
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zeronenoreze-type, u mean i need to add a line to /etc/acpi/lid.sh   ????08:14
Arafangionaum: I dislike ubuntu on servers.08:14
justin_jshriver: This is why I would suggest cattle over children, if you need money it is a fast sell and you will recieve that hard disk :)08:14
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holycowGevaudan82, thats just wrong on so many levels08:14
ashueverytime when i have to start the pc with ubuntu installed i have to use the live cd to boot..please im me in personal if anybody have gone through this problem08:14
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holycowGevaudan82, i taught a class of people on how to build their own cheap boxen08:15
e-typezeronenorez: patience, I can't even remember your initial question, hang on08:15
Gevaudan82holycow: correct me then...i'm curious08:15
holycowGevaudan82, then install debian using di (sarg)08:15
dragonriotjustin_> jshriver: This is why I would suggest cattle over children, if you need money it is a fast sell and you will recieve that hard disk :)     <----- New quote for forums... thanks dude. =)08:15
holycowwasn't really a frickin problem08:15
jshriverjustin_, lol.. true... and I've raised cattle prob why I live a middle-class life08:15
AdevIanT1anyone know if a hdinstall is possible from a ubuntu live cd ???08:15
justin_dragonriot: Haha08:15
ArafangionGevaudan82: All centos is a cheap Redhat EE knockoff.08:15
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lupine_85aum: portage is possibly the best package management system I've ever seen08:15
e-typezeronenorez: what do you want to do again?08:15
richiefrichdragonriot lol08:15
lupine_85it's just a pity compilation is so slow!08:15
ArafangionGevaudan82: It's sole reason for existance is that people don't want to actually pay for RH EE08:15
dade`does anyone know if instally only ubuntu (no dual boot) on a macbook requires special steps for bootloader ?08:16
zeronenoreze-type,i can't Choosing Shut down from GNOME Power menu08:16
caseyomahI want to put an icon on my desktop for folder /mnt/120gig (perminant mount point). How do I do that?08:16
aumlupine_85, it is, when it's not b0rk3n08:16
jshriverBefore I go.. if someone would mind helping me... if you know how to install, compile from source, or whatever to get pose installed on my Debian system.. it would be greatly appreciated08:16
lupine_85I never managed to b0rk it08:16
e-typecaseyomah: did you remove it by hand? it should be in the gnome-volume-manager options08:16
jshriver./configure --host=Linux breaks08:16
PathagenXnyupe08:16
ashueverytime when i have to start the pc with ubuntu installed i have to use the live cd to boot..please im me in personal if anybody have gone through this problem08:16
e-typecaseyomah: and it's switched on by default iianm08:16
aumlupine_85, i used early gentoos, lots of having to manually edit weird config files08:16
Arafangionjshriver: Why are you using --host=Linux?08:16
caseyomahIt didn't show up, I have it in fstab.08:16
Gevaudan82Arafangion: a redhat knock off of course, but not necessarilly cheap...i've migrated my home server to ubuntu because i also use it as a a desktop sharing my mouse/keyboard with my laptop using synergy but i've setup about a half dozen centos boxes serving all kinds of things and they are very stable08:16
jshriverand I dont understand what's wrong with my system.. that it's not in the apt-cache08:16
caseyomahI manually edited fstab.08:17
lupine_85ah. 2006.0 was really smooth08:17
richiefrich<jshriver> ./configure --host=Linux breaks  <-- ?08:17
e-typezeronenorez: and what was the link with lid.sh ???08:17
lupine_85(not tried 2006.1 yet)08:17
jshriverArafangion, when I tried ./configure it said it couldnt determine my system and I had to specify08:17
richiefrich--prefix=08:17
e-typecaseyomah: remove it from fstab if you want it to automount08:17
PathagenXjust do .configure and let it figure everything out for itself08:17
ArafangionGevaudan82: So, how much is Centos?08:17
AdevIanT1how du u install from just the live cd anyone??????????????08:17
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ArafangionGevaudan82: Why would you run Centos instead of RH EE?08:17
holycowAdeman, just click on the install icon on the desktop08:17
holycowAdeman, how hard can it be?08:17
jshriverPathagenX, it says it can't determind my system type and I must specify hense why I then tried --host=Linux.. which it does create a Makefile, but when I do make it breaks08:17
PathagenXjshriver, what does uname -a tell you?08:17
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Gevaudan82Arafangion: absolulytey! no one likes subscription based services especially in terms of support if you don't need it...hell that's the whole reason the .NET project will eventually fail because that is what they are/were banking on08:18
Ademanholycow: be careful of using tab-complete :-)08:18
holycowAdeman, doh!08:18
jshriverLinux DolphinBoy 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:18
holycowsorry :) hehe08:18
caseyomahIt's a perminant mount point, I don't want automount, I want it to stay mounted.08:18
Ademanholycow: i thought someone wanted to talk to me :-p08:18
PathagenXbroken config script08:18
Gevaudan82Arafangio: i'm not a buisness yet i want a stable os unlike fedora which is cutting edge08:18
jshriverI'm very sorry I upset you holycow.. especially.. you've helped me in the past and I respect you for that..08:18
holycowAdeman, again my appologies08:18
holycow....08:18
holycow>_>08:18
holycow*cough*08:18
zeronenoreze-type , u told me 'can't Choosing Shut down from GNOME Power menu here?'08:18
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holycowj/k!!!08:18
Ademanhaha08:18
ArafangionGevaudan82: I think you're confused about .NET, but that's understandable given MS's confusing advertising.08:18
holycowlol so hello :)08:18
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e-typezeronenorez: that has nothing to do with acpi08:19
zeronenoreznonon08:19
jshriverIs mono up to the full .Net specs?08:19
holycowjshriver, no, it never will be08:19
Gevaudan82Arafangio: like it or not to this date there is still more articles on redhat based distros than debian on the Internet08:19
ArafangionGevaudan82: Then run Debian Sarge.08:19
zeronenoreznononon08:19
Ademani actually have a 5 page essay on "honor" to write, freshman english is BS08:19
jshrivernot really concerned... webservices blow.. ick08:19
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zeronenoreze-type, copy mistake :p08:19
e-typejshriver: no it's not08:19
holycowjshriver, it will implement whatever has or will become a free spec08:19
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zeronenoreze-type, u told me ' think adding a visudo line for /sbin/shutdown fixed it, but not sure if that's the ubuntu way'08:19
holycowand then probably diverge onto its own road08:19
PathagenXGevaudan82, There is even more for Slackware08:20
jshrivermono seems like a nice project..08:20
Gevaudan82Arafangion: i don't think i am....NET is intended to foster web services which in turn would allow microsoft to charge for services it and sponsored providers would provide08:20
e-typezeronenorez: ... which has nothing to do with acpi...08:20
Arafangionjshriver: Indeed.08:20
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ArafangionGevaudan82: I think you're talking about the Passport service.08:20
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DigitalStimulusim trying to walk someone through getting fglrx installed on ubuntu dapper, and 3 different install method, including manually loading the module and editing xorg.conf is causing signal 1108:20
zeronenoreze-type,.....what can i do then?08:20
jshriverDid mono merge with wine for Windows apps?08:20
Arafangionjshriver: No.08:20
AdevIanT1cmon anybody know if permanent system install is possible from just the live ubuntu cd ????????08:21
Gevaudan82PathagenX: i've installed gentoo but of all the distros I've tried I never could get the hang of a slackware install...all i'm asking is for a base os with minimial fluff and a minimal GUI of my choice where i can do what i want from there08:21
PathagenXDigitalStimulus, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:21
medic30420dragonriot: my fstab WAS screwed up08:21
tarkowskiI have a problem that I need help solving as I know little about troubleshooting Ubuntu. By accident I have erased what looks to me like my net drivers - all .ko files in the /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net catalog. 2.6.15-26 is my latest kernel version and now my net connection is broken (I had to switch back to a previous kernel version). what do i do?08:21
DigitalStimulusPathagenX: done that08:21
Arafangionjshriver: They considered it once, but decided that it would require too many changes to both mono and wine, and would be easier to just do their own implementation.08:21
Gevaudan82Arafangion: no that is .NET...i read a HBV case study about it this summer08:21
medic30420dragonriot: i had the wrong hda# listed, fixed it and now all is well08:21
PathagenXGevaudan82, Xubuntu08:21
e-typezeronenorez: add a line to your sudoers file using visudo08:21
ArafangionGevaudan82: url?08:21
e-typezeronenorez: but again, I'm not sure if that's the ubuntu way08:21
DigitalStimulusPathagenX: X just sends a signal 11 and dies08:21
e-typezeronenorez: but it fixed it here08:22
Arafangiontarkowski: How did you erase it?08:22
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PathagenXDigitalStimulus, Go forum diving08:22
Arafangiontarkowski: Try apt-get install --reinstall your kernel.08:22
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Arafangione-type: That is the ubuntu way.08:22
e-typeGevaudan82: use source mage ;)08:22
DigitalStimulusPathagenX: hehe, i'm doing that too, was wondering if anyone has any experience with ATI in ubuntu.  was hoping maybe someone has heard of this before08:22
Gevaudan82Arafangion: gimme a second...i might have the unencrypted version still on my hd...i had to pay for it originally and it came with a bunch of DRM08:23
dragonriotmedic30420: congrats... glad you got it fixed...08:23
ArafangionGevaudan82: Ah, then I don't want it.08:23
e-typeArafangion: thx, but how come it's not there by default or a question about it? ;)08:23
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e-typeArafangion: not sure if I should ask you that actually ;) ;) ;)08:23
zeronenoreze-type, well where's the sudoers file @_@08:23
ArafangionGevaudan82: But if it's in a database, such as ACM, tell me enough to let me find it myself :)08:23
Gevaudan82Arafangion: fair enough08:23
zeronenoreze-type, found that08:23
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e-typezeronenorez: in a terminal, run '$ sudo visudo'08:23
zeronenorezok08:24
e-typezeronenorez: add a line saying something like this:08:24
tulgacan I decode executable bin file?08:24
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PathagenXDigitalStimulus, I have08:24
Arafangiontulga: What file?08:24
PathagenXDigitalStimulus, but only an old 3DRage08:24
DigitalStimulusdoh :0)08:24
Arafangiontulga: You could try... running it? (If you trust it)08:24
tarkowskiarafangion: with rm! wanted to erase just the unusued ndiswrapper file but added a "*" flag by mistake...08:24
tulgaArafangion: I have bin file. It is compiled. I need decode it08:24
Arafangiontarkowski: Tsk Tsk...08:24
e-typezeronenorez: %users  ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown08:24
Arafangiontulga: You have a binary file?08:25
tulgayes08:25
Arafangiontulga: Congrats - all files are binary.08:25
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e-typezeronenorez: then all users from the group 'users' will be able to shutdown, other won't08:25
PathagenXHighlighting makes Xchat really useful.08:25
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tarkowskiok, now that we've uncovered the shameful details of my behaviour, what's the path to victory?08:25
zeronenoreze-type, thx08:25
e-typezeronenorez: np08:25
Arafangiontarkowski: Reinstall the kernel.08:25
PathagenXDigitalStimulus, what kind of card?08:25
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DigitalStimulusx130008:25
enkravHello, how can I install gnome-desktop on a dapper ubuntu-server installation? (I don't use it as a server). apt-get install gnome-desktop didn't find it08:26
Arafangiontarkowski: apt-get install --reinstall foo08:26
boogiemanHello all, anybody got Ubuntu running on an Imate Jamin (PDA Phone) a.k.a HTC Prophet, Qtek S200 ?08:26
Arafangionboogieman: Why bother?08:26
DigitalStimulusATI x1300, ubuntu dapper.  all of the different methods to get it working cause the same issue, i'm guessing that we have it setup properly, but something might be broken with the version of fglrx we're using08:26
fokusleeif i found out linux doesn't support sli on my graphics card where should i post it to?08:27
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PathagenXDigitalStimulus, yes but what is the market name of your card?08:27
tarkowskiand by foo you mean which packages?08:27
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Arafangiontarkowski: By foo, I mean, the kernel you want to run.08:27
e-typeenkrav: try gnome-desktop-environment ;)08:27
Arafangiontarkowski: Possibly install --reinstall the restricted modules again, as well.08:28
boogiemanArafangion: its on MS Mobile 5.008:28
DigitalStimulusPathagenX: ATI Radeon X130008:28
Arafangionboogieman: You are better off using a distro tuned for pda's.08:28
Arafangionboogieman: Ask #palm, they usually respond in a few hours.08:28
boogiemanAfafangion: any recommendations ?08:28
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: what version of fglrx are you using?08:29
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Arafangionboogieman: Some palm pda users may know of a good distro to investigate.08:29
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: whatever is in ubuntu dapper repository right now08:29
redbladesHi, I just tunred on my computer, and I found that my sound has stopped working.08:29
Gevaudan82boogieman: jack n the box is open 24 hours so post your question, grab a milkshake and wait for a response08:29
DigitalStimulusi'm not sure, i'm walking someone through it over the internet08:29
boogiemanAfafangion: thanks ... i'll see08:29
e-typeredblades: are volumes up and unmuted, speakers switched on?08:29
redbladesYep.08:29
DigitalStimulusbut everything i've tried causes X to crash08:29
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: and I'm sorry, I missed the original problem... would you mind restating it?08:29
PathagenXCan't help you.08:29
tarkowskiright, i understand that, but what's the name of the package? i was already told to reinstall restricted modules, kernel-image<version> and linux-386 (the complete latest kernel, according to synaptic) and it does not work - i was doing in each case sudo apt-get --reinstall install08:29
boogiemanGevaudan82: didn't follow you08:30
e-typeredblades: any errors from sound applications?08:30
redbladesThe volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.08:30
boogiemanGevaudan82: but i'll grab a milkshake nevertheless08:30
PathagenXATIs are world famous for sucking worse in Linux than any other.08:30
e-typeredblades: your sound device is not found08:30
PathagenXTheir drivers suck and the installer sucks more08:30
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: tried manually editing xorg.conf and modprobe fglrx, tried doing the install directions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:30
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ArafangionPathagenX: Indeed.08:30
com4i want to add a path to PATH for bash, but i can't figure out where that gets set system wide08:30
DigitalStimulusoops, sorry double paste08:30
e-typeredblades: check '$ dmesg | less' for any messages about it, or some irq that's switched off08:30
DigitalStimulushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:30
com4Which file do i edit to update PATH globally?08:30
PathagenXDigitalStimulus, get build-essential and install the Radeon Linux drivers08:31
Gevaudan82com4: /etc/profile.d08:31
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CromagDKmornings08:31
e-typeredblades: check that it shows up in '$ lspci' too08:31
DigitalStimulusPathagenX: yea, we were going to try that next, but i don't like ATI's way if i can avoid it08:31
com4Gevaudan82: i don't have that directory08:31
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Arafangioncom4: define "globally"08:31
com4Arafangion: system wide08:31
Arafangioncom4: For every single user?08:31
Gevaudan82com4: err sorry that's for redhat distros...i can't remember of the top of my head for debian distros08:31
PathagenXDigitalStimulus, You know you can't.08:31
com4Arafangion: yes08:31
PathagenXDigitalStimulus, Your friend will just owe you big time.08:31
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: paste me the xorg.conf if you can, or at least the device and monitor parts...08:31
Arafangioncom4: I don't think it's possible, unless you ensure that every users uses bash, and you configure /etc/profile08:32
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: the xorg.conf file isn't the problem, it's a default config with "vesa" changed to "fglrx"08:32
com4Arafangion: every user uses bash and there's no predefined PATH in /etc/profile08:32
Arafangioncom4: Then define it.08:32
Arafangioncom4: export PATH=foo;$PATH08:32
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Arafangioncom4: Use :, not ;, that was a typo.08:33
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com4Arafangion: gotcha... just seems like it should already be there. this is comming from slackware/redhat usage though08:33
e-typeArafangion: don't most shells source /etc/profile.d/ ?08:33
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: stay far away from the current radeon drivers... they don't work under linux period... the repositories are the last version that works so far... you might attempt to use Omega drivers, but it's iffy...08:33
Arafangione-type: Depends on configuration, that might even be better, actually.08:33
Arafangioncom4: Investigate man bash, and /etc/profile.d08:34
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com4Arafangion: usually the profile script will execute everything in /etc/profile.d :)08:34
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: it IS a problem with your xorg.conf... and I'll tell you why if you paste the monitor section to me.08:34
com4Arafangion: it would seem that's now how debian/ubuntu does it though08:34
redbladese-type, dmesg returned "[17179569.184000]  ACPI: FADT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff304008:34
redblades[17179569.184000]  ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x0000000008:34
redblades"08:34
chris86wmafter upgrading from Breezy to Dapper, xorg doesnt start and gives me an error. anyone know how to fix this?08:34
Gevaudan82ubuntu doesn't have /etc/profile.d...are you saying if you create it and add your files there like java.sh it would work?08:35
Arafangionchris86wm: And, pray, what is the error?08:35
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Losty81Anyone here have any idea why I would be able to ping "www.google.com" etc from shell ....but no other net works?.....if I put in the actual ip address and eg. http://xxx.xxx.xxx I can get one page up.......something to do with dns?08:35
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hantoog'day. just switched to ubuntu, pretty happy with it. got a quick question, i installed fluxbox, but i get errors like 'bscreen:bscreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x23 depth 24' in xsession-error08:35
hantoohow's that?08:35
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com4Arafangion: it also appearse that adding the PATH into /etc/profile doesn't work08:35
chris86wmsomething about xorg not being configured correctly08:35
hantooLosty81: sounds like it08:35
e-typeredblades: that's not really an interesting message08:35
Losty81cheers hantoo08:35
e-typeredblades: does your card show up in lspci?08:35
dragonriotwhy would you install fluxbox in ubuntu?08:35
hantoodragonriot: there's a law against it?08:35
tarkowskiarafangion, sorry, can you point out to me which kernel packages you have in mind?08:36
dragonriotno, but why? =)08:36
Losty81i pinged my dns servers and ran the adsl modem tests...... net works every where but in linux08:36
Arafangioncom4: afaik, most distros have a default .bashrc and .bash_profile in skel08:36
hantoochris86wm: you were referring to my question?08:36
redbladese-type, well, a few VIA things do...08:36
e-typehantoo: why would you ask that?08:36
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Gevaudan82Losty81: sounds like dns...google.com is probally being cached08:36
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: i don't have access to the xorg.conf, i'm walking someone through it (who is quite competent, but not knowledgeable), it's also not copy/paste-able since it's stuck in console mode08:36
hantoodragonriot: shrug, like the lightweight08:36
com4Arafangion: debian does have that, and nevermind... i just made the same ;/: typo as you :D08:36
chris86wmhantoo, no08:36
redbladese-type, here it is: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 30)08:36
com4Arafangion: thanks08:36
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e-typeredblades: that's the one08:36
hantooLosty81: i manually edited /etc/resolv.conf08:36
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e-typeredblades: right, so your soundcard is there. check if it's modules are loaded08:37
Losty81???08:37
Arafangiontarkowski: Something like: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-25-68608:37
redbladese-type, how?08:37
Arafangiontarkowski: But use the exact same kernel as you are using, because you don't have a net connection.08:37
e-typeredblades: '$ lsmod'08:37
hantooso anyone got a clue bout the problem im having?08:37
chris86wmanyone?08:37
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: I highly recommend apt-get putty - but barring that, change the "fglrx" in the monitor section to "ati"... leave the device section set to "fglrx" and try that...08:37
Arafangiontarkowski: Instead, it'll use the apt-cache if you already have it08:37
e-typeredblades: or even '$ lsmod | less' since it should be a long list08:37
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redbladese-type, snd_ac97_codec         93088  1 snd_via82xx08:37
redbladessnd_ac97_bus            2304  1 snd_ac97_codec08:37
redblades ???08:37
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kaoltihi08:38
e-typeredblades: hm, those are the ones, yes08:38
dragonriotif he has multiple monitors, he'll need more configuring help than that...08:38
kaolti!ntfs08:38
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:38
e-typeredblades: can root access the devices?08:38
kaolti!fuse08:38
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse08:38
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: nah, it's a plain jane setup08:38
Losty81no its not a cache thing cuz i can ping any address...from the shell....and get result from google when I http://xxx.xxx..xx whatever08:38
redbladese-type, ... how do you mean?08:38
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: ok, then that change should do the trick... oh, is it a CRT or LCD monitor?08:39
e-typeredblades: do audio apps run as root? try '$ sudo alsamixer' for example08:39
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DigitalStimulusdragonriot: not sure, he says it's flashing about 4 times then X crashes with signal 1108:39
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redbladese-type, it certainly seems to...08:40
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chris86wmwhen doing an upgrade, is it necessary to run "apt-get -f install"?08:40
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flasherdoes anybody here use jpilot? i'm having a problem syncing.08:40
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chris86wmi am thinking that is my problem08:40
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: this is a desktop right?08:40
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: going to try the "ati" driver, then see if setting some modes helps.08:40
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redbladese-type, an application opened in Terminal when I ran alsamixer.08:41
kkpi03ffhhgj08:41
e-typeredblades: so, running '$ alsamixer' as user gives the error of no devices, while running it as root using '$ sudo alsamixer' shows you your soundcard settings?08:41
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: only set 24 and 16 bit, 1024x768 and 1280x1024 for 4:3 monitor, 1440x900 for a widescreen...08:41
DigitalStimulusATI driver is that picky?08:42
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ArafangionDigitalStimulus: It's tantamount to dark magic.08:42
DigitalStimulusholy hell :)08:42
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: just telling you what worked for me when I was having similar problems... I imagine you know that stuff already.. =)08:42
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DigitalStimulusyea, but my experience is only with nvidia, i'm well versed in xorg, just not with ati :0(08:42
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DigitalStimulusok, we'll try that08:42
DigitalStimulus"ati" driver is giving "no screens found" which is better than signal 1108:43
redbladese-type, exactly, oh, brb08:43
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: if the ati card is being detected as a mesa card, it will be jacked in the xorg.conf... and won't work even with these changes...08:43
duckdownWhat's the difference in the server ISO's from the desktop iso's?08:44
duckdownI want to use the machine as a server as well as a desktop08:44
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dragonriotDigitalStimulus: no screens found is an error for a graphics card that doesn't have a monitor attached, or a card that doesn't have proper modes set up... those resolutions are so safe though it should theoretically work on anything...08:45
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DigitalStimulusdragonriot: it's a CRT, by the way08:45
Gevaudan82duckdown: use the desktop distro and you'll be fine...the server distro starts with no GUI but gives you the option of LAMP which you probally don't need and want to configure yourself08:45
DigitalStimulusyea, we're setting modes now08:45
duckdownGevaudan82> Thanks :)08:45
DigitalStimulusyea, no screens is much better than signal 1108:45
morbid88Hey guys. I ned some help with my wireless. I'm having some problems with ieee80211 and my ipw3945 driver.08:45
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Gevaudan82duckdown: in my opinion i'd stay away from lamp...it's really not too bad to configure yourself...search "perfect install 6.06 howtoforge" on google08:46
morbid88lupine_85: you around?08:46
DigitalStimulusbut that's with "ati"08:46
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: I had the same error on my desktop, and realized I had 2 graphics cards installed, but only one monitor attached... likely not the same issue, but worth asking him...08:46
DigitalStimulusi had him dump all the extraneous devices from the xorg.conf08:46
DigitalStimuluswhich aticonfig "automagic" put in08:46
dragonriotmake sure he keeps keyboard and mouse. =)08:46
duckdownwill do, thanks alot...  I want to try this XGL/Compiz deal08:46
tarkowskiArafangion, seemed to have worked it's magic, thanks08:47
e-typemorbid88: define problem ;)08:47
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Gevaudan82duckdown: i tried it on ubuntu using an nvidia quadra 550fx card...most of the effects worked but the globe never did...didn't really investigate any further than that08:47
morbid88e-type: well, I can't compile the ipw3945 drivers, and when I try to use modprobe I get reports of unknown symbols in ieee8021108:48
duckdownGevaudan82: I've got a nice AMD64 3500+ and nvidia 7300 pci-express card... I'm hoping the AMD64 version of Ubuntu will install without a hitch08:48
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Healotduckdown: there will be some problem, minor ones08:48
Gevaudan82duckdown: i had the globe working under suse but the menu bar (the thing with the min,max, close buttons) would not show up on any windows...seemed to be REALLY cutting edge so i'll wait till it stablizes08:49
Healotthe rest is fine08:49
morbid88e-type: problem: I've still got to have a windows partition on my computer 'cos I can't use linux to connect to my wireless network.08:49
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: i hope this works, i've been fighting with it for the last couple hours :0)08:49
dragonriothehe08:49
duckdownGevaudan82: I had that same problem in suse, i couldn't close any windows and basically nothing worked08:49
DigitalStimulusi never thought ATI was such a pain :0)08:49
DigitalStimulusi've never even made the attempt08:49
duckdownHealot: what kind of problems do you think08:49
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dragonriotoh yeah... ATI sucks... in fact, I have a guy waiting for me to send him working drivers for an X600 because he has the same issue...08:50
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Healotduckdown: multimedia, especiall with Windows Media, some 32bit apps running the latest firefox for example08:50
e-typemorbid88: hm, custom kernel troubles...08:51
duckdownShoot08:51
Gevaudan82damn, these steve irwin commercials are getting me down...poor guy08:51
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e-typemorbid88: could be a lot of stuff, can't you use a stock kernel and module assistant for that driver?08:51
duckdownHealot: Should I just do 32-bit instead?  Or is that a waste of this 64-bit processor08:51
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e-typemorbid88: /me knows little of your specific driver though ;)08:51
morbid88e-type: I think I did. I tried apt-getting the whole kernel image.08:51
Healotbut, the 32bit app is not a pain, just the proprietary stuff like WM08:51
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e-typemorbid88: so you're using a stock kernel and it freaks about the modules it installed itself?08:52
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morbid88e-type: it's a driver that's been known to cause problems.08:52
e-typemorbid88: that shouldn't happen08:52
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morbid88tell me about it.08:52
Healotunless you're not going for those proprietary stuff, like WM, you're fine08:52
lupine_85e-type: it needs the version of ieee80211 that Dapper calls ieee80211_1_1_1308:52
lupine_85but it "depends: ieee80211"08:53
duckdowncool, thanks08:53
e-typelupine_85: didn't know08:53
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lupine_85bit of a PITA ;)08:53
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morbid88lupine_85: what's a PITA?08:53
lupine_85np, I've got no idea how to fix it either08:53
e-typemorbid88: you'd need a complete custom kernel08:53
lupine_85PITA=nail in the buttocks08:53
morbid88aside from a middle-eastern yummy bread that goes great with hummus.08:53
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morbid88hahahaha08:53
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e-typewouldn't want to start spewing bullcrap :)08:54
morbid88I mean, I've got vmware running, and everything. I'm ready to dump the windows partition... just as soon as I can get wireless.08:54
A-L-P-H-ACan someone help with setting up my 3rd monitor.  I've got two monitors working, (xorg.conf file http://pastebin.ca/164044 ) but the third monitor is recieving a signal, but it's just a black screen (640x400x70Hz).  The setup is two NV5200 cards, one AGP, the other PCI.08:55
lupine_85well, by the looks of it 2.6.17.9 doesn't have the ipw3945 driver08:55
lupine_85ao we'd be at square one again...08:55
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lupine_85...I really don't know what Dutchy did differently, but I strongly suspect it's to do with the iee80211 module08:56
e-typemorbid88: the unknown symbols might have some reasons: the kernel version might not like the newer ieee80211 symbols, it might be a different gcc version your kernel was compiled with08:56
lupine_85morbid88: did you try compiling ieee80211 from source?08:56
morbid88uh... i think I started out with that, yeh.08:57
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lupine_85if you compile ieee80211 version 1.1.11 (the minimum required version) from source, you might have more lucky08:58
lupine_85luck*08:58
morbid88hmm. Good idea, let me try that08:58
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|thundersomegeek, why isnt the new version of Gnome in my universe ?09:00
|thunderarg09:00
|thunderso , why isnt the new version of Gnome in my universe ?09:01
Healotit's in the main section?09:01
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holycow!restricted09:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:01
lazohello guys09:01
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lazocan I ask a question?09:01
Healotjust ask09:02
lazothanks alot09:02
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lazoI am new in Linux world and I installed Ubuntu09:02
Healoti know that :) I can sense that09:02
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lazomy problem is every time I do update my ubuntu I get a new link in boot09:03
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DigitalStimulusdragonriot: there is an onboard video as well apparently, i'm having him disable it in the bios09:03
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lazoI do have also windows in the boot menu but rigt now I do have about 4 ubuntu in start boot09:04
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DigitalStimulusdragonriot: current ubuntu repository fglrx version is 7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-3 by the way09:04
lazohow to delet them and have just one left in boot menu?09:04
Arcad3lazo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst09:05
JoseStefanlazo: that's normal and happens after kernel updates, it's usually not recommeded you remove them09:05
Arcad3am dlete the lines u dont need09:05
lupine_85erm, gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst :)09:05
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morbid88lupine_82: I've tried compiling from er 1.1.11, but I'm not sure if I'm properly removing all the traces of the old one.09:05
sid"Some software from restricted will be installed on Ubuntu CDs but is clearly separated to ensure that it is easy to remove. We include this software because it is essential in order for Ubuntu to run on certain machines - typical examples are the binary drivers that some video card vendors publish, which are the only way for Ubuntu to run on those machines. By default, we will only use open source software unless there is simply no other way to install U09:05
sidbuntu. The Ubuntu team works with such vendors to accelerate the open-sourcing of their software to ensure that as much software as possible is available under a Free licence."09:05
Healotunless you like to remove the older kernel, lazo09:05
lupine_85A safer way would be to uninstall the older linux-image packages09:05
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fokusleehow do i find out the name of my kernel?09:05
Healotsid: what's with the excerpt?09:06
JoseStefanlazo: you got 3 options, remove the lines (keep the old kernel). [b]  remove the old kernel [c]  make the grub timer smaller so it doesnt bother you09:06
Healotfokuslee: uname -a09:06
lazobut after a while I am afraid I get many of them09:06
sidhttp://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components , under `"restricted" component`09:06
lupine_85morbid88: I tried it here and it asked me if I wanted to delete the old modules...09:06
fokusleethx09:06
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lupine_85if unsure, delete the modules yourself09:06
sidWhat video cards only work with proprietary binary blobs?09:06
lupine_85you can always reinstall them later if you need to09:06
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JoseStefanlazo: personally, i reduced the grub timer, and my system boots a few seconds faster too09:06
fokusleeLinux fokuslee-linux 2.6.17.11-custom #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 7 17:12:01 PDT 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux09:06
morbid88lupine_85: the file in /modules/2.6.../net/ieee80211?09:06
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lazowell thats mean it is better to keep them all both old a new kernel09:06
lupine_85those, yes09:06
fokusleeso it should by linux 2.6.17.11-custom rite?09:07
sidI've installed GNU/Linux on dosens of machines, vesa seems to work great on every video card I've come across.09:07
e-typeJoseStefan: how does your system boot faster?09:07
lupine_85until you want 3D acceleration ;)09:07
e-typeor a non vesa mode :)09:07
JoseStefane-type, lazo: i reduced the grub timer from 10s to 2s09:07
lazoI see09:07
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JoseStefane-type, lazo: unattended startup is 8s faster :P09:07
kaoltihi09:07
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kaoltii have a problem running warcraft 3 with wine09:08
e-typeJoseStefan: you just mean it doesn't wait for the 8 seconds I hope?09:08
e-typekaolti: #wine , good luck ;)09:08
lazothen I try to reduce the time :) thanks alot for the info guys09:08
sidlupine_85: But ubuntu.com says "By default, we will only use open source software unless there is simply no other way to install Ubuntu."09:08
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: that onboard graphics will cause all the problems you are having.... it loads the first interface as the main, and PCI before AGP before PCI-Express...09:08
JoseStefane-type, lazo: it waits 8s less (unattened startups)09:08
kaoltithanks09:08
e-typekaolti: unless it's trivial of course09:08
lupine_85sid: true. And by default, it uses the vesa driver09:09
JoseStefanlazo: you can keep the old kernel and just remove the option, please note that further updates will add them 'all' again automatically09:09
kaoltie-type: well when i "wine War3.exe" i see a plain black screen then i have to log in again :(09:09
sidlupine_85 / Healot are there any video cards that don't allow Ubuntu to be installed unless a proprietary binary blob is used?09:09
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: there is no option to disable it, we set it to PCI-E as "primary video adapter"09:09
sidMaybe there is some weird card out there I've never seen/heard of.09:09
lupine_85sid: all video cards will work with VESA, so no09:09
lupine_85unless we're back in the days of MCA...09:09
Healotnone? sid, the XOrg and XFree teams did quite a lot09:09
sidI mean Debian GNU/Linux uses all free software, and their installer has nothing non-free(libre) in it.09:10
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: still no screens found with "ati", i don't think the horzsync and vertrefresh are set though09:10
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: going to try that now09:10
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e-typekaolti: mingle with your wine settings, but this is not a ubuntu problem09:10
LilandraHelp!09:10
lazothats the exact thing happen..I removed them but after update they came up again09:10
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chris86wmafter upgrading from Breezy to Dapper, xorg doesnt start and gives me an error "failed to start the X server. Likely not setup correctly" . anyone know how to fix this?09:10
morbid88lupine_82: I've compiled ver. ieee80211.1.1.11 and now I can't even load that module.09:10
JoseStefanlazo: that's because that's waht the script is designed to do "add all installed kernels to the list"09:10
e-typechris86wm: is there no update available?09:11
kaoltie-type: ok well i thought it is because when i tried to change the resolution the same thing happened.i had to change in the conf file.09:11
sidlupine_85: You know who the web master is?09:11
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JoseStefanlazo: one reason why i reduce the timer and forget about it09:11
chris86wme-type, what do you mean?09:11
JoseStefanlazo: you can do a lot of tweaking, like 'hide' the menu09:11
LilandraI just reinstalled ubuntu. After I tried logging in to gnome and it took forever I switched to another screen (ctrl+alt+f1) and logged in and then I got a whole lot of junk! SO i rebooted (recovery mode) and then launched gdm. When I logged into gnome again...I got to error messages09:11
lupine_85sid: no idea what you mean09:11
lupine_85morbid88: any error messages?09:11
e-typechris86wm: login, update apt-get and check for an update, there's been a bad package some time ago, maybe you're in bad luck09:12
lazobut I need the menu cause sometime I am on Windows09:12
e-typechris86wm: if that's not the one we can start looking ;)09:12
brendonjthow do i remove a directory that is not empty under root user?09:12
JoseStefanlazo: maybe timer reduction would be better ovarall09:12
chris86wme-type thats not it09:12
chris86wmthat issue has been fixed09:12
e-typechris86wm: what's the error09:12
e-typeLilandra: what's the error?09:12
lazoI think so too :)09:12
morbid88lupine_85: error inserting.... ieee80211.ko  -1 unknown symbol in module.09:12
Lilandra"Internal Error: failed to initialize HAL" and "Power Manager: This program cannot start until you start the dbus system service. It is strongly reocmmended you reboot your comptuer after starting messagebus"09:12
JoseStefanlazo: or you can remove the kernels you dont use, after you are 100% sure you wont need em09:12
chris86wme-type something about x not being configured correctly09:12
lupine_85are you using modprobe? and did you depmod -a?09:13
Lilandrae-type: "Internal Error: failed to initialize HAL" and "Power Manager: This program cannot start until you start the dbus system service. It is strongly reocmmended you reboot your comptuer after starting messagebus"09:13
lupine_85if using insmod, you need ieee80211_crypt first09:13
morbid88ah. no, I didn't.09:13
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morbid88ah.09:13
morbid88okay, that's what I was trying to do.09:13
e-typechris86wm: more detail or paste the error in a pastebin09:13
LilandraHow do I restart messagebus? and what's HAL for?09:13
JoseStefanlazo: always keep the default one, the one on 'dapper' repos09:13
kaoltie-type: the wine channel is on freenode?09:13
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: I would check and double check the hsync numbers on the monitor manufacturer's website or the manual, I found numbers for one of my monitors and they were completely out of sync09:13
chris86wme-type I cant paste it, because i cant boot into my gui09:13
morbid88there we go, thanks :-) now to try ipw09:14
e-typechris86wm: find a line starting with EE, that's a fatal error09:14
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: i don't think they're even specified, i'll see what i can find though09:14
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lazoyes09:14
brendonjthow do i remove a directory that is not empty under root user?09:14
JoseStefanlazo: by that i mean, if the list goes up to 3 distinct kernels. you can 'usually' uninstall the middle one09:14
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kaoltie-type: nvm i got it09:14
lazoand how do that?09:14
e-typeLilandra: maybe rescue mode doesn't start dbus, try rebooting, that will be easiest09:14
JoseStefanlazo: synaptic can do it09:14
lupine_85brendonjt: sudo rm -r will do it09:14
lupine_85but be careful :)09:15
lazois it a program?09:15
lazoor just a comand?09:15
Lilandraok09:15
JoseStefanlazo: synaptic package manager, under the admin stuff09:15
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: I don't think they need to be... on my laptop, I just have Option "DPMS" and nothing else in the monitor section.09:15
morbid88AAaargggh09:15
dragonriotbut that's an LCD09:15
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DigitalStimulusdragonriot: on my LCD monitor, it dies if it's not specified09:15
morbid88lupine_85: ipw3945 compiles now, but won't install.09:15
JoseStefanlazo: i suggest you always keep at least 2, the 'newest' one, and the 'default' one09:15
DigitalStimulushe has a CRT though09:15
DigitalStimulusor goes out of range, i forget09:16
lupine_85same error?09:16
DigitalStimulusi just know I *have* to specify it on my monitor09:16
brendonjtthank you lupine_8509:16
morbid88yep, still a conflict with ieee80211.09:16
kaoltie-type: 118 ppl in #winehq and none answer :|09:16
lupine_85conflict? or missing symbols?09:16
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lazoI am in Synaptic now but dont know where to edit those boot stuff09:16
morbid88missing symbols09:16
kaoltie-type: can this be related to the VESA driver?09:17
morbid88and a "disagree about version".09:17
e-typekaolti: you'll have to be patient, and google might be a good help09:17
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e-typekaolti: are you running X with vesa driver?09:17
Lilandrae-type: i rebooted and ubuntu/gnome is frozen09:17
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JoseStefanlazo: synaptic will remove the kernel you no longer want, after removing it, it automatically updates the grub menu09:17
lupine_85humm09:17
lupine_85I'm running out of ideas :/09:17
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: what does the "Server Section" look like in his xorg.conf?09:17
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JoseStefanlazo: but i suggest you always keep at least 2 kernels like i said before09:17
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lazook09:18
DigitalStimulusdragonriot: not sure, i may end up having him just install openssh-server and hacking at it09:18
tRSSmy dns server is unable to resolve any addresses? dig/nslookup also time out. i can ping ip addresses but not urls09:18
lazowell thank you very much for your time and advice09:18
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lupine_85I suppose you could always just "borrow" a tarball of Dutchy's /lib :)09:18
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: he should have something like                      Screen         0 "Generic Monitor"09:18
lazoI do really appreciate it09:18
Lilandrahelp?09:18
JoseStefanlazo: np09:18
e-typeLilandra: "ubuntu" can't freeze, it's no application... probably some gnome component froze on you. did gdm start?09:18
tRSSwhat might be problem here?09:19
Lilandraright that's why i said ubuntu/gnome09:19
lazoI was a windows user but I do really wana be a Linux user from now on09:19
Lilandrayes09:19
Lilandrae-type yes it started09:19
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e-typetRSS: set your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf09:19
JoseStefanlazo: i have 4 kernels :/09:19
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lazoI do have the same right now09:20
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morbid88lupine_85: may that would work.09:20
e-typeLilandra: try to login from console09:20
tRSSe-type: i am talking about bind here.09:20
Lilandrae-type: how do i boot to console from grub (and not recovery mode)09:20
lupine_85JoseStefan: I have 6 :)09:21
tRSSe-type: it seems it is unable to resolve/connect to the root servers09:21
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e-typeLilandra: ctrl+alt+f1-f609:21
JoseStefanlupine_85, i 'had' six09:21
Lilandrae-type: as i said, it (whatever it is) is frozen so i can't do that09:21
lupine_85:)09:21
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lupine_85I keep them all for safe keeping09:21
dragonriotDigitalStimulus: on your last, that's probably a good idea... better idea is to make a "support account" for you so you can log in and watch what he does through 'screen -x'09:22
lupine_85good for building modules against, as well09:22
JoseStefanlupine_85, i removed the middle guy09:22
DigitalStimulusyea, it'd definitely be a screen session09:22
e-typeLilandra: if even ctrl+alt+backspace fails you'll have to reboot and not login but go to console using ctrl+alt+f109:22
Lilandrawell but quickly...09:23
e-typetRSS: sorry, don't know about bind at all09:23
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tRSSe-type: no problem, may be someone else can help me09:24
Lilandrae-type: can i add an entry in grub to boot to console?09:24
e-typetRSS: I'd go to another channel for real trouble ;)09:24
tRSSe-type: e.g.?09:24
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lupine_85Lilandra: single mode? or multi-user console?09:24
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icemananyone used the Kororaa Live CD that boots glx on a live cd09:25
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morbid88lupine_85: thanks agian, I'm going to keep scouring the forums.09:25
Lilandralupine_85: i think multi09:25
e-typeLilandra: if there's a 5 in the boot line, replace it with 3, if not, just add 309:25
lupine_85e-type: default is 209:25
infidelhow can i change the port for my network printer09:25
lupine_85Lilandra: you need to modify a runlevel so that it doesn't load gdm/kdm, then do what e-type said to boot into that runlevel09:25
e-typeLilandra: listen to lupine_85 ;)09:26
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lupine_85seems like in Ubuntu, runlevels 2-5 are identical09:26
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lupine_85which sort of misses the point... ;)09:26
e-typeindeed09:26
Lilandralupine_85, e-type: i don't see the 5 and stuff so i'll hope i can be quick enough to switch and that even if gnome freezes if i've switched it won't freeze09:26
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JoseStefanlupine_85, it would be great if ubuntu made use of more runlevels09:26
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vbhanuPlease suggest some commanline tool for editing mp3 tags09:27
icemanGot to try KORORAA to see the hype of glx before i even try to install it ..09:27
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lupine_85vbhanu: "apt-cache search mp3 |grep id3" gives some options09:28
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lupine_85!eyed309:28
ubotueyed3: Display and manipulate id3-tags on the command-line. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.8-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 96 kB09:28
e-typevbhanu: you've not described any problem that wouldn't work with easytag. to switch title - author file naming I'd get the tags filled up correctly and then rename the files09:28
Lilandrashould i kill gdm before it does stuff?09:28
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e-typevbhanu: this is all batch stuff with easytag09:28
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lupine_85!mp3rename09:29
ubotump3rename: Rename mp3 files based on id3tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-9 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 68 kB09:29
lupine_85mmm... command line :)09:29
Schalkendoes anyone know where rhythmbox's song ratings are kept?09:29
Lilandralupine_85, e-type: should i kill gdm? so it doesn't do wackiness?09:29
JoseStefanLilandra: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:29
e-typeLilandra: it should not do anything wrong actually...09:30
JoseStefanLilandra: killing it will just make it restart09:30
e-typeJoseStefan: there's no console09:30
lupine_85Lilandra: to get a runlevel without gdm, remove the relevant symlink in /etc/rc?.d09:30
Lilandrajosestefan, e-type: well i login at console and if i'm lluckh i can do stuff, if not...well...it logs me out09:30
JoseStefanLilandra, better to rename the symlink09:30
lupine_85? = the runlevel (not '2') that you want to set up as non-GUI09:30
Lilandraok rebooting into recovery mode09:31
iceman24kwell ok, somewhat impressive xgl humm09:31
JoseStefanLilandra, changing the S to a K, will 'disable' it09:31
AbortD_lupine_85: do you play halo by any chance?09:31
lupine_85JoseStefan: there are 3 other runlevels with the required symlink... so that's a load of backups already :)09:31
lupine_85AbortD_: no :)09:31
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AbortD_lupine_85: i kept getting killed by a guy named lupine_8509:31
JoseStefanlupine_85, updates to gdm might detect a 'missing' link and add it. not if it has a 'K'09:31
lupine_85not me :)09:31
Lilandraok, i'm at recovery mode/root cli09:32
JoseStefanlupine_85, and it's easier to undo09:32
Lilandrawhat now?09:32
lupine_85must've been someone stealing my uber-great namwe09:32
kaoltie-type: seems like i have to install drivers for my chipset09:32
lupine_85JoseStefan: but then won't it run gdm stop on shutdown?09:32
JoseStefanlupine_85, no09:32
lupine_85(not that it's a huge issue, but it grates slightly)09:32
Lilandraim confused abt all the previous instructions...which to do!09:32
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JoseStefanlupine_85, it will run stop on startup actually, which will do nothing, other than make sure it's not started09:33
iceman24kanyone installed glx, how hard is a install09:33
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JoseStefanlupine_85, i just know if it's 'there' updates will just add it again09:33
JoseStefanerr09:33
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JoseStefanlupine_85, 'not there'09:33
lupine_85Lilandra: do what JoseStefan said - e.g. "sudo mv S99gdm K99gdm"09:34
Lilandralupine_85, JoseStefan: which symlink should i rename or delete? and what would that do?09:34
lupine_85untidy in my eyes, but I'll defer :)09:34
JoseStefanLilandra, are you in: rc2.d ?09:34
Lilandranot yet09:34
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Lilandranow i am JoseStefan09:34
lupine_85erm, you probably don't want to edit rc2.d09:35
lupine_85that's the default runlevel09:35
JoseStefanLilandra: first check the filename for the gdm simlink (the number may vary)09:35
Lilandrawhat filename?09:35
lupine_85unless you want the default to be without GUI09:35
LilandraS13gdm?09:35
Lilandrawell i can't seem to login with the gui09:35
JoseStefanLilandra: ok, rename it to K13gdm09:35
icemanok, XGL is somewhat nice eye candy, and could prove useful.09:35
Lilandraand i did install the server only and then...tried to isntall gdm and craziness ensued09:36
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lupine_85ok, it's rc2.d that you want then :)09:36
JoseStefanLilandra, lupine_85: this may very well be temporary anyways09:36
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Lilandraok JoseStefan09:36
JoseStefanLilandra, lupine_85: that's why i like the rename too09:36
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Lilandraso we don't lose it!09:36
Lilandranow what?09:36
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JoseStefanLilandra: done. next time you start the system, gdm wont start09:36
iceman24kok, time to study xgl.09:37
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Lilandraok but...how do i get around to fixing the problems with gdm? (i assume it's gdm)09:37
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JoseStefanLilandra: you can manually start it by going to init 3, OR by using: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start09:37
JoseStefanLilandra: ah, thats another subject09:37
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JoseStefanLilandra: it shouldn't be hard locking your system09:38
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lupine_85once you're logged in as user, you can start x(GNOME) without the graphical login by running, erm, startx09:38
JoseStefanhmm09:38
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Lilandrawhat does bad swap offset entry mean? should i be worried?09:38
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lupine_85if that crashes, then you know it's a general problem, not just gdm09:39
Lilandraseg fault09:39
Lilandrafor startx09:39
lupine_85Lilandra: how much RAM do you have?09:39
Lilandra1gb09:39
lupine_85ok09:39
lupine_85run "sudo swapoff"09:39
lupine_85then try startx09:39
JoseStefanLilandra: you might want to run a RAM test overnight too09:40
lupine_85(that turns off your swap)09:40
crashdhum, i ran through the ffox32 on a64 scripts, but i cant find out where the ff32 is nstalled too _09:40
kaoltie-type: i downloaded the driver and when i ./autogen.sh it gives me: line 9: autoreconf: command not found09:40
Lilandraerrr...needs argument09:40
lupine_85gotta love linux commands :)09:40
crashdany ideas?09:40
Lilandrai did run a ram test when i first installed it09:40
lupine_85ah, swapoff /dev/(swap partition)09:40
DigitalStimulushaha this is great09:40
lupine_85swap partition is "probably" /dev/hda209:40
Losty1981Hi my name is Nick. I'm having some peculiar problems with internet. I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to lend me a helping mind.09:40
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JoseStefanLilandra, fstab can tell you which one it is09:40
kaoltie-type: cant find anything about autoreconf :(09:41
e-typekaolti: install build-essential09:41
Lilandraseg fault09:41
JoseStefanLilandra, on what cmd?09:41
e-typekaolti: autoreconf is part of autoconf package09:41
Lilandrasudo swapoff /dev/sda509:41
e-typeLosty1981: just ask09:41
lupine_85and that segfaults too?09:42
lupine_85not good...09:42
Lilandrawell when i did startx it gave me loads of feedback...well a screen/4 lines...this just says seg fault09:42
kaoltie-type: yea,im getting it now with synaptic09:42
JoseStefanlupine_85: "But what does it all mean Basil?"09:42
e-type:)09:42
lupine_85I'm starting to think you might have errors on your swap partition, in such a way that swapping to/from it would cause a segfault09:43
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lupine_85e.g. the data isn't available, or something09:43
Losty1981I have a peculair ability to ping anything from the shell.....and by using ping...I can find the xxx.xxx.xxx I.P address of the site. I can then use http://xxx.xxx.xx to access google (for eg)09:43
Losty1981but other than that no net works09:43
Lilandrahmm so reinstall?09:43
lupine_85it could also be a more general FS or RAM problem09:43
crashdanyone? firefox on x64 is flaky as hell09:43
lupine_85hard to debug, really09:43
JoseStefanlupine_85, aren't swap partitions raw enough for restarts to fix them?09:44
lupine_85JoseStefan: I was thinking more hardware fault09:44
Lilandraand now it's giving me lots of weird screens...crash logs? i dunno09:44
LilandraFS?09:44
lupine_85that or a bad kernel module somewhere09:44
JoseStefanlupine_85, i did mention the ram test09:44
lupine_85"filesystem"09:44
Lilandraah!! :)09:44
lupine_85true09:44
e-typeLosty1981: so, from the shell you can ping any url, but other applications can only access ip numbers?09:44
Losty1981i can use firefox to access sites only if I know there ip address .... and it doesn't call to any stringed urls09:44
Losty1981yeah basically09:45
JoseStefanLilandra, consider multiple passes, hence the "overnight" suggestion09:45
Lilandrait did two passes i think09:45
lupine_85Losty1981: DNS is broken?09:45
Lilandra*sigh*09:45
Losty1981i was thinking that09:45
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lupine_85add "nameserver <dns server ip address> to /etc/resolv.cong09:45
Losty1981I cant seem to change it09:45
lupine_85erm, resolv.conf09:45
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Losty1981how can I edit that?09:45
Losty1981its in the /etc ? yeah?09:45
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JoseStefanlupine_85, will removing the swap from fstab help?09:45
Lilandralots of strange things running on my screen09:45
Losty1981i cant get permission09:45
lupine_85JoseStefan: it could do, yes09:45
Losty1981i tried chmod u+w09:45
Losty1981im pretty new to linux sorry09:46
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lupine_85Losty1981: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf09:46
Losty1981ahk ill try that09:46
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Losty1981tahnk fuck for my ,mates laptop09:46
Lilandrajosestefan, lupine_85: how is it when i installed knoppix to my harddrive it didn't gibve me problems. if it were ram wouldn't it affect whatever distro i was using?09:46
lupine_85ctrl+o <return> then ctrl + x will save and exit09:46
Losty1981i dont have to reboot in and out of windows all the time09:46
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Losty1981net works fine for all other comps by the way09:46
e-typeLosty1981: if ping does find dns servers, then you have another problem09:46
JoseStefanLilandra, it should yes. I dont think it's ram, anymore09:46
Losty1981yeah its wierd09:46
lupine_85Lilandra: true enough. So the theory goes to the kernel09:47
lupine_85Losty1981: are you using DHCP?09:47
JoseStefanLilandra, but i dont know the solution yet09:47
e-typeLosty1981: ping resolves url's okay?09:47
DBOLosty1981, watch your language please09:47
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JoseStefanLilandra, we could temporarily blame it on the swap partition and disable it09:47
Lilandrajosestefan, lupine_85, so are my system specs important? maybei should just get regular i386 ubuntu09:47
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Lilandraok...09:47
Lilandramaybe i setup my partitions badly?09:47
lupine_85Lilandra: that's a possibility09:48
lupine_85general faults like this could be down to so many different things09:48
Lilandrai hope the hdd's not bad...*eep*09:48
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JoseStefanLilandra, can you put your fstab on the !pastebin09:48
lupine_85(in my other PC)09:48
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gautamhi room09:48
JoseStefanlupine_85: dont get a maxtor drive09:48
Lilandrajosestefan: not anymore..it's all sorta frozen09:48
gautami need some help09:48
gautamany1 there?09:48
lupine_85hehe, of course no :)09:48
Lilandrai would need to reboot...hold on09:48
lupine_85!ask09:48
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:48
JoseStefanLilandra: it froze in CLI ?09:49
gautami need help on vsftpd09:49
gautami want it to show a banner message09:49
lupine_85never used it, sorry09:49
gautamany has any ideas?09:49
lupine_85but that sort of thing is usually in motd09:49
Lilandrawell sorta. it just started running all these things on my screen...like errors. and i couldn't type anything09:49
lupine_85where that would be in vsftp would be anothr matter09:49
gautammotd?09:49
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lupine_85Lilandra: sounds like a kernel panic09:49
JoseStefanlupine_85, you know about the maxtor drives?09:49
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lupine_85"message of the day"09:50
Losty1981lupine: yes I'm using DHCP....??09:50
kintaro0ehey guys..how to compile my kernel manually?09:50
Lilandrayeah! but what causes kernel panic?09:50
lupine_85JoseStefan: I know about Maxtor... that's enough :)09:50
kintaro0eis ther a guide on this on ubuntu website?09:50
lupine_85Lilandra: lots of things :(09:50
gautamLilandra:  major genreal09:50
gautamlol09:50
JoseStefan!tell kintaro0e about kernel09:50
RMorris85what is the best usb tv tuner card to get for ubuntu?09:50
Lilandrakernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!09:50
JoseStefanseason finales cause major kernel panics09:50
lupine_85Ah... it's an interrupt problem09:50
tulgamost powerful binary decoder?09:50
gautamso no idea guys?09:50
Lilandralupine_85: *sigh* interrupt problem, meaning?09:51
lupine_85gautam: you could try dpkg -L <package> to see if it lists any files with motd mentioned09:51
kintaro0eJoseStefan: thanks09:51
lupine_85Lilandra: hardware conflict09:51
gautamlupine_85:  i did some searching09:51
lupine_85do you have more than one CPU?09:51
gautameven on google09:51
Lilandraargh!!! :(09:51
kaoltie-type: it turns out that my chipset doesnt have a decent driver for ubuntu and even i had one,wine only works good with ATI and nVidia cards.:(09:51
gautamfound some good docs09:51
Lilandralupine_85: me?09:51
JoseStefanLilandra, you could try the livecd, to see if the same things happen09:51
gautamno help :(09:52
lupine_85Lilandra: yes09:52
Lilandrayes! i could...must download it...09:52
gautambtw hi Lilandra09:52
Lilandralupine_85: no just the one09:52
Lilandrahi gautam09:52
gautamhi lupine_8509:52
Lilandrai do have the server cd too09:52
Lilandraas opposed to this, the alternate cd09:52
lupine_85ok, there's a kernel loading option to help when you have IRQ conflicts09:52
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JoseStefanLilandra, what kernel are you using? what CPU?09:52
Lilandralinux-amd64-generic09:53
Lilandracpu - athlon 64 3400+09:53
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lupine_85I think we've narrowed it down to a bad kernel module/hardware configuration09:53
gautamanyway later guys09:53
gautamtc09:53
gautamty all09:53
Lilandrabye gautam09:53
Lilandrabad hardware config?09:53
gautambye09:53
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gautamy sobs?09:54
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lupine_85since it mostly happens with X, it's likely to be your graphics card09:54
lupine_85try booting with acpi=noirq on the grub command line09:54
JoseStefanLilandra, do you have any weird hardware?09:54
Lilandraum09:54
Lilandraan old agp card?09:54
Lilandraa wireless pci card09:54
DigitalStimulusssh is installed, `adduser support`, `passwd support` password is set, it has a login shell in /etc/passwd, but can't connect via ssh, did i miss something?09:54
gautamoh well09:54
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Losty1981Still no luck!09:54
lupine_85(when it says booting grub, hit Escape then press 'e' on a kernel boot line. add 'acpi=noirq' to the end of the text, hit enter, then hit enter again)09:55
lupine_85if that works, we can add it permanently09:55
gautamDigitalStimulus:  is sshd running?09:55
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DigitalStimulusgautam: yes, i'm receiving a key and password prompt09:55
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redbladesHi, e-type?09:55
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gautamDigitalStimulus:  accept it09:55
gautamtype password09:55
DigitalStimulusgautam: of course, maybe the password was typo'd09:55
JoseStefanlupine_85, you are thinking out loud09:55
gwilmaHello all. Does anyone know of a gnome program to display the output from the command line/content of text files on the desktop?09:56
lupine_85indeed09:56
DigitalStimuluson the server end09:56
redbladese-type, I just remembered that it was just that I'd somehow been removed from the audio group in /etc/group09:56
gautamgwilma: u can pipe it09:56
e-typeredblades: hence why root user has access, and plain users don't09:57
gautamDigitalStimulus:  well then chk firewall and password09:57
Lilandrajosestefan, lupine_85: ok...modified boot, am logged into console...09:57
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lupine_85ok, and how is it going?09:58
JoseStefanLilandra, i guess now you try to make it crash :/09:58
lupine_85try startx again09:58
Lilandrastartx? :)09:58
lupine_85:)09:58
JoseStefanLilandra, OR sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start09:58
Lilandraerrr09:59
lupine_85no point if she's already logged in...09:59
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Losty1981sweet!!09:59
lupine_85crashed again?09:59
Losty1981it works09:59
Lilandrastartx launched a black screen...cursur not blinking09:59
Lilandrai guess...err...frozen?09:59
RMorris85anyone have experience with a usb tv tuner?09:59
lupine_85Lilandra: hit ctrl+alt+KP_bkspace09:59
Lilandrakp?09:59
lupine_85keypad09:59
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lupine_85erm, no. just backspace, sorry10:00
JoseStefanthere is no backspace on KP10:00
lupine_85ctrl+alt+backspace10:00
lupine_85just noticed that :)10:00
Lilandra:)10:00
Lilandranothing10:00
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lupine_85ok, ctrl+alt+f1 ?10:00
Lilandranoo10:00
JoseStefanctrl+c ?10:00
lupine_85then the kernel has panicked again10:00
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Lilandranope10:01
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lupine_85presumably the graphics card and the wireless are sharing the same interrupt10:01
JoseStefanLilandra: ctrl+give+kernel+a+chill+pill10:01
Lilandrahow about giving it a bathroom break?10:01
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lupine_85the kernel can't deal with that properly, so is crashing10:01
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gwilmagautam: so if I've got a todo.txt file, is there a way to show it in the background/ in a section of the desktop?10:01
Lilandrai need chcoolate10:01
JoseStefanLilandra: sorry about that :)10:01
lupine_85can you disable the graphics card interrupt in the BIOS ?10:01
Lilandrayes...all my crushed hopes to put ubuntu on my computer10:02
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Lilandrawell10:02
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Lilandrai can take out the graphics card10:02
Lilandraand use the onboard card10:02
lupine_85not quite the same thing ;)10:02
JoseStefanLilandra: i suggest the livecd10:02
Lilandraok10:02
Losty1981thanks heaps guys10:02
lupine_85JoseStefan: it's the same kernel?10:02
Losty1981success10:02
Losty1981ciao10:02
Lilandrajosestefan: well that'll take me a day or so! :)10:02
JoseStefanlupine_85: should be, unless hers is updated10:02
brendonjtkia ora all i am in need of some help, with a program under wine10:03
Lilandrajosestefan: does xubuntu use the same kernel?10:03
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JoseStefanLilandra, i believe so10:03
lupine_85yes, it does10:03
Lilandrasigh...ok....10:03
Lilandrai was downloading that to install but going to get livecd10:03
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JoseStefanLilandra, the livecd can narrow a couple of things down10:03
lupine_85I suppose if you get the same problem on livecd, it rules out hardware failure10:03
lupine_85definitely looks like an interrupt conflict to me, though... I just wish I could remember the various ways to fix it10:04
JoseStefanrules out?10:04
Lilandrai wish i ever knew! :)10:04
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Lilandrawell this should take me a good few hours...10:05
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iceman!xgl10:05
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:05
JoseStefanLilandra, is the system unstable in "CLI only" ?10:06
lupine_85this is so 1995!10:06
lupine_85i.e., if it works, then it's not the kernel10:06
lupine_85or the RAM10:06
JoseStefanLilandra, or only when starting x?10:06
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Lilandraum, it crashed gnome10:06
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Lilandraor froze gnome10:06
Lilandra1995 ... did i even know about Linux then10:07
nikinhy does anyone know any godd program to minimize the energy usage on my laptop durning running on battery? i just use it for some text editing and so, so i dont need much power, but need the maximum battery time10:07
Lilandraerrr...no gui?10:07
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JoseStefani think he means the IRQ issues10:07
Lilandrai shall return!10:07
e-typenikin: cpu frequency applet10:08
lupine_85IRQ problems aren't meant to happen any more :D10:08
lupine_85good luck with it10:08
e-typenikin: power off wifi card, turn lcd brightness down10:08
lupine_85you might want to try www.ubuntuforums.org as well10:08
JoseStefanthey did back in 9510:08
lupine_85someone else might have had the same problem10:08
lupine_85JoseStefan: gotta love ISA...10:08
nikine-type i have done it all :D10:08
nikinbut i need more10:08
lupine_85even in 2000... getting your modem + sound card working together was a major achievement10:09
JoseStefanlupine_85: ISA, by itself was not bad. It was Plug'N'Pray that caused the nightmare10:09
nikinand turning down brigthness is not good, coz i have to see the screen10:09
e-typenikin: switch of drives, buy more batteries/solar panel/rat-in-a-wheel/...10:09
lupine_85nostalgia--10:09
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kintaro0ehi guys need advice..i want to add a PATH variable on my shell..i'm confused where should i put it..will i dont want to put it in the /etc/profile because its global..so i was thinking of .bashrc or .bash_profiles..which one should i place it?10:09
JoseStefanold school modems were cool10:09
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nikine-type. how can i wich off drives?10:09
lupine_85kintaro0e: .bashrc10:10
e-typenikin: hdparm, but be carefull with that ;)10:10
JoseStefan"real modems"10:10
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borishi i just got ubuntu10:10
lupine_85PATH=additional:$PATH10:10
lupine_85hehe10:10
borisand I need something fun to do with it10:10
nikine-type: hdparm is evil :D but maybe i will try10:10
e-typekintaro0e: path should be in .bash_profile , strictly speaking10:10
e-typenikin: hdparm is evil in the wrong hands only :p10:10
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JoseStefanboris, you can try hacking into my server, i give you permission10:11
kintaro0elupine_85: so whats the difference with .bashrc and .bash_profile, e-type lupine_85?10:11
e-typekintaro0e: non shell logins might need it too10:11
it21hi  @ all10:11
nikine-type: maybe my hands are wrong, i ame not a hardware specific guy10:11
e-typekintaro0e: in practice there's very little difference for most uses10:11
Lilandrawhat is IRQ again?10:11
borisJoseStefan: lol dunno how........ also how do I get it to run in Developer Mode?10:11
JoseStefanboris: just kidding10:11
lupine_85interrupt request10:11
lupine_85IIRC10:11
brendonjtIntruppt Request Address10:11
it21does anybody play world of warcraft?10:11
nikinboris: make WPA running, and make a good howto :D10:11
lupine_85surely that's an IRQ address?10:11
borisI want my ubuntu to have its terminal open 24/7 spewing out what it is doing at all times.10:12
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JoseStefanIRQ = Interrupt ReQuest10:12
borisHow would I do that?10:12
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it21are there german chatter , too?10:12
brendonjtanyone here know much about wine?10:12
lupine_85it's how old hardware communicates with the CPU(=software)10:12
Lilandrayeah but i mean...not the name10:12
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JoseStefanboris, it wont be doing much, unless you tell it to do something10:12
lupine_85when two pieces of hardware use the same address... bad things can happen10:12
lupine_85!de10:12
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:12
Lilandraah! ok10:12
nikinlupine: what is the new way?10:13
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boris.lsit10:13
it21where can i get devices for ubuntu?10:13
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e-typeit21: "devices" ?10:13
brendonjte-type: was just about to ask that10:13
it21in german treiber10:13
JoseStefanit21, newegg10:13
lupine_85nikin: new hardware avoids the CPU as much as possible10:13
JoseStefanamazon, etc10:13
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borisHers what my desktop looks like: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9260/screenshotzf5.png10:14
borisempty and boring10:14
LilandraJoseStefan: so if livecd doesn't like my system too what hten?10:14
e-typeit21: be more specific, wich device is not working?10:14
nikinit21: you can get my notebook for 10000$ it is totaly tested, every function is working under dapper :D10:14
archangelpetromorning all :)10:14
nikinlupine: but there are still interrupts10:14
JoseStefanLilandra, for one, it means your current software setup is not the problem10:14
massive222Does anyone know which shell dapper drake uses as default?10:14
it21much ive just installed ubuntu10:14
massive222is it bash?10:14
lupine_85bash10:14
Lilandrabut if it does like my system10:14
archangelpetrobash10:14
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massive222oh10:14
massive222hmm..10:14
lupine_85good old bash :)10:14
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JoseStefanLilandra, could mean something is wrong with your current install10:15
massive222is it better to update this to a newer one?10:15
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it21ive just installed ubuntu10:15
meatheadhello everybody! can someone recommend a CLI wifi finder program?10:15
lupine_85meathead: iwlist10:15
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lupine_85as in, sudo iwlist <interface> scan10:15
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massive222archangelpetro: do you know where the bash file is10:16
massive222archangelpetro: i want to add aliases10:16
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lupine_85lilandra: can you run "cd /proc/irq && ls *" ?10:16
meatheadlupine_85, great, know a trick to find out my PCMCIA wireless card's interface name?10:16
meatheadit's not10:17
lupine_85iwconfig10:17
meatheadwlan010:17
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Lilandrai could but i just shut down the machine to download the livecd10:17
lupine_85see what shows up as having wireless extensions10:17
lupine_85Lilandra: ok np then10:17
meatheadall that comes up is eth010:17
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Lilandraha! when i did that...it said nothing had wireless extensions10:17
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lupine_85(the cd && ls command lists your IRQ lines and what's attached to them()10:17
lupine_85if nothing shows up in uwconfig, your wireless card doesn't have it's driver loaded10:18
lupine_85if it's broadcom, you need the firmware10:18
jibhello everyone10:18
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lupine_85!wireless10:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:18
meatheadI'm on the wifi right now10:18
meatheadit comes up at eth0, but should it?10:18
Lilandralupine_85: i figured not to stress abt the wireless until i got the actual computer working10:18
lupine_85does it say that eth0 is a wireless device?10:19
meatheadyeah10:19
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lupine_85Lilandra: good idea :)10:19
lupine_85meathead: don't worry about it then10:19
Lilandralupine_85: i don't think things crashed when i installed server...until i installed gdm from the cdrom10:19
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lupine_85it's just a name10:19
Lilandrayeah! on this machine eth0 is wireless (when it's running linux)10:19
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lupine_85Lilandra: that strongly suggests that it's the drivers for your graphics card, then10:20
it21are there german people??10:20
lupine_85!de10:20
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:20
lupine_85or rather, a conflict between the graphics card IRQ and "something else"10:20
lupine_85probably the wireless10:20
Lilandralupine_85: then i shall take out the agp graphics card and try the onboard video10:20
lupine_85might not help, but worth a try10:20
Lilandralupine_85: tho once upon a time in the old computer it was in, it worked10:20
Lilandrawell, i'd probably have to reinstall10:20
meatheadalright, thanks a lot lupine, you've been a big help10:20
lupine_85turn off the PCI IRQ in the bios as well10:20
lupine_85np meathead10:21
Lilandraoh i should take notes10:21
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lupine_85hmm... any semi-competent bash scripters in?10:22
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jibI'm lost somwhere between apt-get -b source metacity and --enable-compositor special option. Could someone tell me the tip that I presume trivial, yet I'm a newbie10:22
redbladeslupine_85, #bac10:22
redbladeslupine_85, #bash10:22
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Lilandralol10:23
lupine_85it's only a simple query :)10:23
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dsl552well10:24
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meatheadlupine_85: so that means I should be typing "sudo iwlist /dev/eth0 scan" or "sudo iwlist eth0 scan" because either way it tells me interface doesn't support scanning10:25
lupine_85just eth010:25
meatheadk10:25
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Lilandraaha! mine did that too meathead10:25
lupine_85if it doesn't work, then your driver uses a non-standard interface10:25
Lilandrai think ineeded to isntall things :)10:25
meatheadInterface doesn't support scanning: Operation not supported10:25
meatheadhmm, crap10:25
jibPlease, help me to rebuild metacity on my G4 processor, compiz is oddly blued/color-inverted. So far, metacity is the only eye-candy possibolity for me http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotzy8.png10:25
lupine_85iwpriv might help10:26
lupine_85(run "iwpriv" and see what ioctls are listed)10:26
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Link9618I can't display the whole screen using ubuntu 6.0610:26
lupine_85nobody answering in #bash :(10:26
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Lilandramaybe i can install a different linux10:27
RMorris85jib: wow.. thats some eyecandy itself ;) lol10:27
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jibRMorris85, do you know how to build metacity with that special option ?10:28
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meatheadiwpriv does list a bunch of things10:28
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lupine_85do any of them allude to scanning?10:28
meatheadresets, port configurations, preamble, ibssport, monitor and dumprecs10:28
Link9618I can't display the whole screen using ubuntu 6.0610:28
CorpseFeederwhere's that list of wireless chipsets which support wpa under linux?10:29
RMorris85jib: sorry man im an ubuntu noob myself... i dont know what u got going on, but u should prolly check the ubuntu-xgl room tho they might be able to get ya fixed up in there10:29
jibThanks, RMorris8510:29
Lilandraooh i would like that list too10:29
Lilandrai found it once10:29
JoseStefani gtg10:30
Lilandrabye JoseStefan! thanks10:30
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JoseStefanbye10:30
jibbye everybody10:30
Lilandraoh thanks lupine_85 and bye10:30
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bioticproAnyone here use vlc?  Need help using it to play a dvd image from HD10:30
lupine_85cya JoseStefan10:30
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Lilandrabye...i shall hopefully return tomorrow10:30
Lilandrathanks10:30
CorpseFeederI've seen the list of supported cards but it's very limited. I thought there was a list of chipsets too10:31
Crazedany mono developers here ? :P10:31
lupine_85If there is, I would be very interested in seeing it10:31
meatheadlupine_85: resets, port configurations, preamble, ibssport, monitor and dumprecs. are what are listed, I don't suppose any of those secretly allude to scanning for routers do they?10:32
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CorpseFeederanyway, mine is a RT61, so if anyone knows if it supports WPA in linux....10:32
brian98 corpsefeeder: acx10:32
nnis there a darker GTK2 theme i can use? how to switch themes??10:32
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nni want my gaim to have black background.. bright hurts the eyes so bad10:32
CorpseFeederacx? what is that?10:32
Crazednn turn some light on in your room :P10:33
Crazedthat will help too ;)10:33
nnNo10:33
nnit will burn us10:33
lupine_85meathead: dumprecs, maybe10:33
Crazedhaha it's bad for your eyes anyway ..10:33
nnand make us sad inside10:33
lupine_85it's hard to say10:33
Crazedhaha10:33
Crazedwell go to http://www.gnome-look.org/10:33
brian98 corpsefeeder: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX10:33
martawhat can i do with my sound issue10:33
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martait  doesn't work10:34
Crazednn: or you could just use this command: xgamma -gamma 010:34
Crazed:P10:34
Crazedthen it's dark ;)10:34
nnhow to make theme different one?10:34
nnI have many10:34
Crazeddon't know10:34
Crazednever changed themes with gnome10:34
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Wavelinehello everyone10:35
Wavelineanyone up10:35
Wavelinehehe10:35
nnnot gnome :)10:35
nnjust gtk w/ windowmaker10:35
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Crazedare there no Mono developers here ?10:35
nngnome is too big and unhappy10:35
brendonjtwaveline: yip me is10:35
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WavelineI am a .net/sudo coder10:36
CorpseFeederoh yeah.. I almost forgot, I was tyring out WPAHOwTo in the WiFi Docs and installed wpa_suuplicant, then reached a dead end because the wpa_supplicant.cong file I am supposed to edit does not exist.10:36
Crazedwell do you know Mono ? :p10:36
brendonjtwaveline: you know much about wine??10:36
CorpseFeedertryinh10:36
e-typeCrazed: mono developer as in member of mono-project developers?10:36
CorpseFeedertrying10:36
Wavelineno I am just moving over to linux...10:36
Crazedno just the MonoDevelop :)10:36
e-typeCorpseFeeder: you have to create it10:36
brendonjtwaveline: oh ok10:36
Crazedbut the point is when I add a button to a form it's always the total size of that form :/10:36
Crazedhow to change that ?10:36
Wavelinehow is mono compared to .net - its c# but how is the ide10:37
e-typeCrazed: depends on the toolkit you're using10:37
CorpseFeederyes, so I gathered, but the instructions on how to create it don't exist either, or are very well hidden by a secret society of people who don't want me to use WPA10:37
e-typeCorpseFeeder: prolly the last ;)10:37
Crazedwhat do you mean with toolkit ?10:37
WavelineWPA is not really a good idea10:38
meatheadlupine_85: wouldn't just typing "iwconfig essid any" do the trick10:38
Crazedit's just plain that monodevelop editor10:38
Wavelineuse radius and a cert10:38
Wavelinemuch better10:38
Wavelinecisco acs or freeradius will do10:38
e-typeCorpseFeeder: http://hostap.epitest.fi/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/hostap/wpa_supplicant/README?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain10:38
lupine_85Waveline: freeradius is build off of WPA-210:38
lupine_85meathead: possibly10:38
e-typeWaveline: wtf wpa not a good idea?10:38
CorpseFeedermy AP uses WPA-PSK though10:38
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Crazede-type: I am just using the plain editor10:39
CorpseFeederbtw that asx100 link won't load any page10:39
e-typeCrazed: learn how to use the toolkit you're using, you're just having trouble with it's layout management10:39
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Crazedand it doesnt matter which type of language I choose with GTK .. it always puts every item I add to my form full size of the form10:39
Assassin5in KDE you used to be able to set the default username & password to be used when connecting to network shares. How can I do this in the KDE with Kubuntu10:39
Crazedzzzzz10:39
Wavelinewhen I say not a good idea I mean only just wpa, you need a network authentication piece10:40
CrazedI tried everything10:40
e-typeCrazed: I doubt that10:40
e-typeCrazed: read some gtk tutorial10:40
Crazedwell nm10:40
WavelineWPA is still a shared key without radius10:40
Crazedyea ..10:40
meatheadcan anyone tell me the command to manage the battery in laptops in linux?10:40
Crazedyou don't know either10:40
e-typeCrazed: you expect me to teach you how to use gtk???10:41
Arcad3is anybody interested in having Cedega?10:41
Crazedno10:41
e-typeCrazed: read up on it!10:41
Arcad3+instalation suport?10:41
Crazedpff10:41
Crazedrly10:41
Arcad3for ubuntu First time users10:41
meatheadArcad3, are you offering binaries?10:41
WavelineCrazed do you want me to read up10:41
e-typemeathead: you need an application for that, like gnome-power-manager, some dockapp, whatever10:41
Arcad3RPM .debs10:42
Arcad3..10:42
meatheade-type: there is no CLI based program that's pretty much standard on most distros?10:42
CrazedWaveline: what are you talking about ?10:42
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WavelineI wasn't sure if you were talking to me, apologize10:42
e-typemeathead: there's /proc/acpi/battery/*10:42
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Arcad3brb 5min10:43
e-typemeathead: you could easily write a little script to use it's contents10:43
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e-typeCrazed: read up on packing ---> http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/10:45
Crazedalready found that ..10:45
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baratatest10:45
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Crazedbut ok what I mean is with the monodevelop editor you can add widgets just by dragging it with the mouse10:46
Crazedonly thing is they are always fullsize of your form10:46
jozzephi have done sth wrong with my java plugin on firefox10:46
Crazedand that was the question10:46
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WavelineHere is ?, has anyone, found a GNU product that hast a built in proxy for network authentication10:46
jozzephjava works fine with normal mozilla but badly with firefox10:46
lupine_85Waveline: freeradius ?10:46
jozzephhow should i repair a plugin10:47
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Wavelineis it using squid10:47
lupine_85erm, no. so you're looking for WWW authentication, not network authentication?10:48
Crazede-type: did you read what I said ?10:48
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WavelineI am sorry for miss speaking and saying wpa not good idea, what I meant was, using it without out radius..10:48
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jozzephhow should i link my java plugin for firefox instead of normal mozilla10:49
Arcad3back10:49
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Wavelinewould you agree crazed10:49
lupine_85WPA-PSK is pretty trivial to crack, true10:49
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lupine_85(assuming a relatively short passphrase)10:49
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Crazed.. sure Waveline .. don't know what you are talking about :)10:49
Wavelinehaha10:49
Wavelineok, I will drop it10:50
ketsugiuse a 63-char randomised passphrase10:50
ketsugihttps://www.grc.com/passwords.htm10:50
lupine_85or EAP-TKIP :)10:50
lupine_85Waveline: squid supports "extensive access controls" natively, by the looks of things10:51
Wavelineso back to freeradius ???10:51
Wavelineanyone here a expert on freeradius10:51
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lupine_85I'm aiming to get it set up on my embedded firewall at some point10:52
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lupine_85(right now I'm running an almost open network... good job the neighbours don't have a clue!)10:52
VoXif im installing ubuntu permanently on a desktop, do i want the desktop download or the server?10:52
e-typeCrazed: I don't use monodevelop, but you probably have to add your widgets to a box and not simply to your window10:52
WavelineHere is what I want, I want users when they connect to my wireless network and try to surf to get a webpage that says they must authenticate10:52
e-typeoff now10:52
Crazedyes I have to add containers for them10:53
Crazed;)10:53
WavelineCisco ACS has that feature built in10:53
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Wavelinewhich i assume is just a proxy...10:53
Wavelineam I off10:53
Waveline?10:53
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Wavelinelupine...what kind of firewall are you running10:54
bonyhow to install quake3? i have the pak3 file with me10:54
lupine_85Waveline: that's freeradius + hostapd + "something else"10:54
bonyon dapper10:54
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bony64bit os10:54
lupine_85Waveline: just iptables10:54
lupine_85on an SBC10:54
lupine_85(well, iptables + a few other bits)10:55
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lupine_85Waveline: look at chillispot10:56
lupine_85http://www.chillispot.org/10:56
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Arcad3!ping me10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
cvtsethk,  i found a solution to access my camera. i chose konqueror by navigating to the executable file in usr/bin10:57
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Arcad3Any first time user interested in cedega +suporT?10:58
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Wavelinecool lupine_8511:00
Wavelinereal cool11:00
Wavelinethx11:00
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lupine_85np11:01
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k31thshould ever user have there own group ?11:03
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lupine_85k31th: depends on how many users you have, and how much you want to keep them separated11:04
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k31th1500 users11:05
ArafangionWhenever I attempt to compile a package using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, I get errors such as the following:11:05
Arafangionsimias-event-client.c:(.text+0x1a2): undefined reference to `pthread_create'11:05
ArafangionHow do I fix this? (This is Ubuntu EdgyEft)11:05
lupine_85probably best then :)11:06
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lupine_85Arafangion: #ubuntu+111:06
lupine_85looks like pthread isn't installed/loaded11:06
lupine_85(pthread is a glibc addon, IIRC)11:06
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Arafangionlupine_85: That's what I thought, but it is evidently loaded, anyway, I'm in +1 now.11:07
phateis there away to change the file association? I want torrents to assoc with Azureus not the default Ubuntu dl thingee11:07
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lupine_85phate: MIME Types11:08
syouthHi. I have a small non-Ubuntu question. It is a feature request that has been buggin me for a while now. Under Windows using Firefox you can delete parts of an URL intelligently with shift-backspace... It deletes everything until encounters some special characters like / for an example. Under Linux it doesn't work like that way. Is there an alternative? What can be done, to add this nice feature in Firefox (it may be done in GTK supposedly, I think)...11:08
lupine_85which is in Nautilus somewhere, I guess11:08
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bluspiritqualcuna sa come potrei abbassare la temperatura della cpu su linux11:09
bluspiritqualcuno11:09
lupine_85!fr11:09
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:09
xopherphate, well the easiest way, if you use gnome, is just to right click, properties, open with, then select the app you want, add if necessary11:09
lupine_85?11:09
lupine_85!it11:09
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:09
phatexopher ah thanks!11:09
syouthShould I submit bugreport somewhere? Firefox? GTK?11:10
lupine_85Il susserro del Ubuntu :)11:10
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syouthIt is very very handy, if you get used to it. I haven't used Windows for a long now, but still miss this so:P11:10
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lupine_85syouth: GTK I would imagine11:11
lupine_85as it's a standard GTK widget11:11
syouthFirefox you mean?11:12
lupine_85if you feed it back into Launchpad (http://launchapd.net), it'll probably get passed upstream11:12
lupine_85the title bar11:12
lupine_85erm, input box11:12
lupine_85oh, wait.... no it isn't!11:12
lupine_85Yes, you want to ask Firefox11:12
syouthSorry for ignorance, but upstream means it will be submitted to the GTK developers for example?11:12
lupine_85(sorrry)11:12
lupine_85syouth: yes. but you want to submit it to firefox (as you surmised)11:13
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lupine_85it's not a standard GTK widget after all11:13
it21hi all11:13
syouthI mean the place you type your URL ... It may work elsewhere too.. URL part is the most important.11:13
it21wow rocks11:13
it21lol11:13
lupine_85yep, that box has been developed by the firefox devs11:13
it21are there german chatters , too?11:13
lupine_85!de11:13
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:13
it21lol11:14
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lupine_85erm, italian11:14
lupine_85and about 5 of german ;)11:14
syouthlupine_85: Oh. In that case I should bug Firefox guys:)11:14
lupine_85yep :)11:14
lupine_85the functionality might already be in the firefox 2 beta11:14
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syouthJoined into #firefox, but I think they are idleing their asses off:P11:15
meatheadhey lupine, you seem to be smart11:15
meatheadknow a command that would tell me where my x config is?11:15
syouthlupine_85: Good hint. I'll check that out right away11:15
lupine_85no, it isn't :(11:15
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lupine_85meathead: not really, but it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:15
Arafangionlupine_85: Is #ubuntu+1 normally _very_ slow?11:15
lupine_85no idea11:15
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meatheadI installed DSL on my laptop and I can't find the x config, it's not /etc/X11/xorg.conf like in ubuntu11:15
lupine_85no idea for DSL, sorry11:16
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Arafangionlupine_85: At this stage, it's looking like it's a channel in which you wait for half-hour or so, then _maybe_ get a response.11:16
lupine_85although it might be xf86(something)11:16
lupine_85ls /etc/X1111:16
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lupine_85Arafangion: you could always submit a bug report11:16
lupine_85might be faster11:16
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tRSScan some one tell me where I can get some `bind` help?!11:17
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lupine_85tRSS: what are you trying to do with it?11:18
tRSS#bind are also ideling their arse's off.11:18
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tRSSalright, here we go lupine.11:18
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brian98speaking of bind, 9 security updates just now11:19
tRSSi have been asked to fix a wierd problem in one our dns servers. It seems to be working fine, its just that when I do a dig, i get this: connection timed out; no servers could be reached. what is causing this problem, i am not sure. in fact, i am lost.11:19
lupine_85are you using dig @ ?11:19
lupine_85e.g. dig @ my-dns-server my-dns-record A11:20
tRSSnope. just a plain dig. e.g. dig www.google.com11:20
lupine_85try specifying the DNS server's IP (with the @ command)11:20
rob_ptRSS, Your /etc/resolv.conf file has valid nameserver(s)?11:20
lupine_85even if it's just 127.0.0.111:20
tRSSlupine_85: alright, let me try that11:20
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lupine_85bind acts as a caching nameserver by default, so if it's running and has internet access, it should be able to resolve google for you11:21
lupine_85(/var/log/daemon.log for error messages)11:21
tRSSrob_p: my resolv.conf is pointing to itself, which I think should be the case.11:22
tRSSlet me check those log files. just a sec11:22
rob_ptRSS, as in 127.0.0.1 or your interface's IP address?11:22
lupine_85pointing to your own public IP, or 127.0.0.1? What is BIND 'bound' to?11:22
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tRSSpointing to its public ip11:23
tRSSsorry my bad11:23
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tRSSpointing to its internal ip11:23
lupine_85which BIND isn't bound to? :)11:23
tRSSooh crap, i think (correct me if I am wrong), it should be the public ip, shouldn't it?11:24
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lupine_85mine is bound to both11:24
syouthlupine_85: FF 2-b2 hasn't that shitf-backspace feature by default...11:24
tRSSlet me try both then and see if it works11:25
lupine_85udp        0      0 lupine.me.uk:domain     *:* and s/lupine.me.uk/localhost/11:25
lupine_85syouth: then your best bet is to email the developers and nicely ask them to implement it11:26
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lupine_85ot you could probably write a FireFox extension to do it11:26
lupine_85somebody might have done so already11:26
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aidosnetsomeone can help me? using ekiga I want to connect to my voipstunt account to use my contact list else to import it in ekiga11:27
syouthlupine_85: Sure. Only that I don't see why wouldn't FF act on every platform the same...11:27
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syouthI don't see why it shouldn't do that...11:27
lupine_85syouth: firefox linux is quite different11:27
lupine_85it has to be, to compile in the different environment11:27
tRSSalright, adding the public ip in resolv.conf didn't work.11:27
lupine_85ok, what does netstat -a |grep domain say ?11:28
lupine_85(pastebin if more than one, maybe 2, lines)11:28
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syouthlupine_85: Yes yes, but still... It is the same app.. Why should it's interface differ from platform to platform...11:28
lupine_85syouth: lots of reasons11:28
lupine_85if you make a plate out of clay, and then make another plate out of gold, even if you use the same spec doc, they're going to be different11:29
lupine_85(obviously, linux is the gold ;) )11:29
lupine_85bad analogy, but it does the trick11:29
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tRSSlupine_85: netstat to check for the dns port (53). i can see both udp/tcp ports are open and listening11:30
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syouthBut still. You can eat the same from same plate. Food should taste same.11:30
lupine_85hmmm. and can your DNS server contact upstream ?11:31
tRSShow do I check that, lupine?11:31
syouthOn FF channel somewone suggested to search through about:config11:31
lupine_85syouth: widgets differ betwen operating systems. That's just the way it goes11:32
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lupine_85tRSS: I guess it was a bit of a silly question - we've already established that you can't resolve name11:34
lupine_85*s11:34
tRSSthis is not right, is it (from netstat -natu | grep :53): udp        0      0 197.7.XX.20:53         0.0.0.0:*                     (missing a Listen here)11:34
lupine_85yes11:34
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lupine_85you want netstat -a |grep domain11:34
syouthYes, but should it be that way. If you use one app on platform a and use it on platform b, you should not worry yourself about differences. You should even not notice, that you are using different platform (ok, graphics differ a littlebit, but that's not point)11:35
syouth*correction: Yes, but should it be that way?11:35
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lupine_85syouth: the codebase is completely different in places. OF course there are going to be differences11:35
tRSS!pastebin11:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:36
lupine_85the only way to fix it is to write a universal API and widget set... and that's called (urk) java11:36
thotz#ubuntu-bugs11:36
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yoshiznit123is there a way to delete the first 3 characters of every line in a file?11:36
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AshyIsMeis there a utility for ubuntu to select the desktop manager?11:37
lupine_85hang on, udp doesn't have a LISTEN flag11:37
lupine_85(^tRSS^)11:37
AshyIsMelike, to choose between gnome/kde ?11:37
syouthlupine_85: Understandable. If this is FF feature, it should be usable in different platforms. If it is feature from something underneath (GTK or whatever Windows is using), it may differ.11:37
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lupine_85syouth: not necessarily the case11:38
tRSSlupine_85: pastebin'ed the results at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2290211:38
lupine_85offtopic anyway, TBH11:38
tRSSlupine_85: that what I wanted your opinion on, i.e. the missing listen flag!11:38
tourachyoshiznit123: "% s/^...//" in vim11:39
lupine_85yes, you don't need the LISTEN flag11:39
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tRSSanyhow, pastebin'ed the results from the netstat command above. URL is ^^^11:39
lupine_85Is there anything blocking communication? e.g. a firewall? between you and other DNS servers?11:39
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tRSSthere is a firewall (which I can't control). But I am assured by my network team that nothing is blocked for tcp/udp 53 port11:40
yoshiznit123tourach, k thanks11:40
lupine_85hmm. You might need to specify some forwarders in /etc/bind/named.conf.options11:40
lupine_85(assuming you have them!)11:40
lupine_85so there are no useful errors in daemon.log ?11:41
tRSSaww crap, forgot to check the logs. sorry, let me go through them real quick11:41
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lupine_85You can test UDP network connectivity by running sudo traceroute www.google.co.uk (uses udp)11:44
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lupine_85erm, get rid of the sudo11:44
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lupine_85(was experimenting with p- 53, but doesn't do what we want it to do)11:44
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mneptokarr.11:45
tRSSlupine_85: results --> traceroute: unknown host www.google.com11:45
mrDanieli have evince ans adobe acrobat reader. what i have to do to make acrobat reader the default-pdf-reader?11:45
lupine_85ah, doh :)11:45
mrDanielwhere i can set file-extension with a specific programm11:45
tRSSexactly.11:45
lupine_85try traceroute 66.102.9.10411:45
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tRSStraceroute with the ip address seems to be fine. it is getting there.11:47
Zorlacquestion: why is my computer detecting my two IDE's as /dev/sdc and /sdd11:47
lupine_85it's not blocking the IP address then11:47
lupine_85Zorlac: you've got them plugged into IDE-111:47
lupine_85rather than IDE-011:47
Zorlac... no way =O11:47
lupine_85erm, dns11:47
lupine_85erm, udp!!!11:47
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tRSS???11:48
lupine_85do you have any funny stuff in named.conf.options ?11:48
lupine_85access control, etc?11:48
ZorlacI'm almost 100% sure they are in ide-0...11:48
tRSSi don't have any named.conf.options!11:48
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lupine_85zorlac: your computer is acting as though they aren't...11:48
Zorlacmy computer hates me.11:48
lupine_85not that it matters11:48
ZorlacOne hard drive and video card later...11:48
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rob_ptRSS, For troubleshooting, you can temporarily put, "nameserver 4.2.2.1" into your /etc/resolv.conf file and see if you can reach a public DNS...11:50
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rob_ptRSS, Once you put that into your /etc/resolv.conf file, you should be able to do, "dig google.com" and get a resolution.11:51
Losty1981does anyone know how to make permanent /etc/resolv.conf changes..... mine keeps resetting to a default that doesnt work...    right when I'm halfway through an automatix script....I can't change the dns through the standard GUI.. keeps defaulting to something that doesnt work...its wierd11:51
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lupine_85Losty1981: can you add it to /etc/network/interfaces? e.g. dns-nameserver <blah>11:52
lupine_85failing that, you could edit the leases file or something I guess11:52
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tRSSrob_p: surprisingly, after editing the resolv.conf for the above changes, I am still getting a connection timed out; no servers could be reached11:53
lupine_85"they" must be blocking DNS then...11:53
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Losty1981ill look into that area lupine.... im linux newbie sorry11:53
rob_ptRSS, Then outbound dns is blocked...11:53
Losty1981thanks11:53
lupine_85must get going, anyway11:53
lupine_85ttfn11:53
tRSSrob_p: you mean by the service provider?11:54
tRSSlupine_85: thanks for the help. later11:54
rob_ptRSS, yes11:54
tRSSrob_p: now that is something that should be explored, I guess11:54
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rob_ptRSS, either that or your network admin folks have it blocked...11:54
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MockaHello11:55
tRSSrob_p: is there a way to confirm this, may be by crawling from outside (using dnsstuff.com, etc.)11:55
MockaI'm looking for a linux distro, I want one where shit is easy to install any suggestions?11:55
rob_ptRSS, The thing is, your provider shouldn't be blocking it, otherwise you have no way to resolve anything!11:55
brian98I've googled but can't find anything, anyone with any issues with rdesktop and 100% cpu usage?11:55
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tRSSMocka: none of the linux distros install shit, so you are out of luck buddy ;)11:56
rob_ptRSS, ...unless they are trying to, "force" you to use their nameservers or something along those lines...11:56
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tRSSrob_p: i guess you are right. Here goes my weekend for bind!!11:57
rob_ptRSS, Try this, as a last troubleshooting step.  Use the nameserver of your provider in your /etc/resolv.conf file and see if that works.11:57
Losty1981lupine....what are leases?? is that something to do with dhcp?11:57
rob_ptRSS, If that does, then you've nailed it!11:57
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mneptoktRSS: try "telnet 204.60.0.2 53"11:58
tRSSalright, I will try it after some time, right now, I need a break. but thanks for all your help rob_p. really appreciate it.11:58
rob_ptRSS, You aren't running a local firewall or anything, right?11:58
tRSSnope11:58
rob_ptRSS, Ok then... good luck with it.11:59
tRSSthanks :)11:59
mneptokbrb11:59
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liquidangleubuntu is taking over ?11:59
liquidanglethe world hehe11:59
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highvoltagedepending on your definition of 'taking over'11:59
liquidanglegaining user :)12:00
liquidangles12:00
mneptoktRSS: still there?12:00
highvoltagesome would say it has already taken over then :)12:00
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liquidanglevoltage: yeah, I was using it back in the day when I though it was underground12:00
brian98Hey all , about to install dapper on a fujistu siemens laptop (my primary - going to get funny looks in the office) - wish me luck!!12:00
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liquidanglebrian: good luck hehe12:01
brian98:)12:01
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mneptokbrian98: i'd get funny looks in the office running anything *but* Ubuntu ;)12:01
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liquidanglemneptok: what ?12:02
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liquidanglewow12:02
_ian hi how do i enable file sharing with a windows computer? im conencted using a router with four ports..... my other computer is running winxp12:02
liquidanglesup _ian12:02
brian98<mneptok> works for canonical12:02
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ZorlacI can't even get ubuntu to install.12:02
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brian98or google lol12:02
liquidanglegoogle just runs the net12:02
ZorlacI was able to install gentoo and freebsd, but it seems ubuntu is too hard core for me12:02
mneptokof course, they tolerate my Mac Quadra 605 running NetBSD because there's no m68k Ubuntu port.12:03
liquidanglewhat would I do without it12:03
liquidangleZorlac: hahaha12:03
mneptokbrian98: it's Canonical ;)12:03
mneptokliquidangle: where in WA?12:03
brian98much apolgies Canonical :)12:03
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mneptokbrian98: echoing sentiments of my colleagues, too :)12:04
liquidanglemneptok: i'm not sure yet, i've been hittin the mls's lately12:04
liquidanglemneptok: what do you know about Mason county ?12:04
brian98Apologies to them too....12:04
liquidangleit looks pretty cheap for lakefront livin12:04
brian98Your doing a mighty job12:05
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mneptokliquidangle: little. my experience (having been an Oregonian) is mostly with the imediate I-5 corridor.12:05
liquidanglekeep in mind, i'm coming from a rat raced southern california12:05
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mneptokliquidangle: what's the goal? i mean, why WA?12:05
liquidanglemneptok: i-5 access is essential :)12:05
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liquidanglemneptok: well, i wanna live in a small town with access to the seattle rat race12:05
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subietHello, I am looking for a complete media player with media managment support12:06
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subietany suggestions12:06
ZorlacAnyone else have an explination for my ata drives being labed sdc and sdd?12:06
mneptokliquidangle: I-5 commutes into Seattle at rush hour (south OR north) are horrific12:06
rasputnikZorlac: are they sata?12:07
ZorlacNo.12:07
tomcatt!xgl12:07
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:07
rasputnikZorlac: then i've no idea :)12:07
Zorlachahaha12:07
tRSSlooking for me mneptok?12:07
exmethixdoes anybody know how to install initng?12:07
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mneptoktRSS: aye. can you telnet to port 53 at 204.60.0.2 ?12:07
tRSSwhat is that ip?12:08
exmethixi wantet to try it but i get da dependicy error12:08
subietexmethix, i guess i can help with initng12:08
subietwhat do you want to know12:08
mneptoktRSS: public DNS server12:08
exmethixab: libc6 (>=2.3.6-6), aber es wird 2.3.6-0ubuntu2012:08
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subieti got it working some time back, and it is wonderful, 6 second shutdown time is dream come true12:08
ZorlacGparted wont even load when ni try to install ubuntu12:08
ZorlacUBUNTU HATES MEEEE12:08
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tRSSyea, I can telnet the above it12:08
exmethixsubiet, i want to install it :D12:08
tanekhow do i get apt to not ignore repositories12:09
rasputniksubiet: have you tried upstart yet?12:09
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subietrasputnik> i haven't tried upstart yet12:09
mneptoktRSS: then your ISP is not blocking connection attempts on port 53.12:09
subietexmethix, i guess the best place for you to start would be initng wiki12:09
mneptoktRSS: try "nslookup google.com 204.60.0.2"12:09
subietas you are on a ubuntu channel i assume you have ubuntu, so wait, i will just give the link12:10
rasputniksubiet: nor me, but it looks promising. they seem to at least be aware of all the other approaches12:10
subiethttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitNG12:10
tRSShold on, i telnet'd from the wrong window, that was telnet from my machine and dns machine is in someother location12:10
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tRSStrying to telnet from there.12:10
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mneptoktRSS: it doesn't matter. no matter what machine on your network is making the connection attempt, your ISP is not blocking it (as was suggested)12:11
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tRSSnope, i am with a different isp and the dns machine is on some remote network12:11
mneptokah.12:12
mneptokwhen you say "DNS machine" are you talking about a machine running bIND that you control?12:12
rasputniktRSS: try the nslookup rather than telnet12:12
mneptok*BIND12:12
tRSSthat is correct mneptok12:12
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tRSSinfact, when I try to telnet to my bind machine from my existing location port 53, i am getting a time out12:13
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subietupstart looks nice12:14
mneptonargh12:14
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mneptonsorry, my home ISP is falling down tonight12:14
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mneptonand ... he's gone.12:15
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iainHow can I access the hibernate command from the console?12:16
Zorlachibernate?12:16
iainYeah12:16
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iainI'm in a minimalist window manager I'm trying out, and I don't know how :P12:16
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Zorlacum, i think you need a hibernate script..12:17
iainNormally it's one of the log out options12:17
Zorlaciain: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/hibernate12:18
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mneptoniain: does this WM support ACPI?12:18
iainmnepton: Isn't that a low-level thing, having nothing to do with the WM?12:18
subietwell i repeat my question, anyone here has a suggestion of a good media player with media managment12:19
rasputnikmnepton: window managers manage windows, they don't do acpi for you12:19
mneptoniain: the WM has to have hooks into it if it's going to trigger power-saving modes12:19
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tanekanyone else had problems with synaptics driver?12:19
rasputnikmnepton: no it doesn't, just write a script and map it to a button/keypress/whatever12:19
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mneptonrasputnik: that's one way. the other way is to have the WM communicate to the ACPI subsystem (like putting the machine to sleep after x number of minutes)12:20
iainZorlac: I have the functionality on my computer (though I don't have that package) so I don't need to install it, but I don't know the command.  Do you?12:20
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rasputnikmnepton: a window manager draws bars around x clients. that's all it dose12:21
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mneptonrasputnik: really, so a WM never looks intyo /proc/acpi?12:21
mnepton*into12:21
rasputnikmnepton: why would it?12:21
mneptonyou *aure* about that?12:21
iainI found it12:22
mneptonhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/gnome-acpi/12:22
iain/etc/acpi/hibernate.sh12:22
rasputnikmnepton: that's not a window manager!12:22
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mneptonrasputnik: so then run it without one.12:22
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iainmnepton: It's perfectly possible, don't you know?12:23
iainJust make sure you don't even have twm installed12:23
rasputnikmnepton: that's a program that shows you remaining battery life, it hasn't even got anything to do with acpi12:23
mneptonrasputnik: the point is, a WM or DE can be told to interact or query /proc/acpi just as easily as a shell script.12:23
highvoltageyou can make a window manager do acpi12:23
xinelanyone else having trouble getting to alsa project?12:23
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rasputnikmnepton: that's not what you linked to. and i was disagreeing with your statement that a wm is needed to hibernate12:24
highvoltageyou could hack metacity or something to have a suspend button next to your minimize/maximize/close buttons :)12:24
mneptonrasputnik: i never said "a WM is needed to hibernate"12:24
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iainmnepton: You asked me if my WM supported ACPI.12:24
mneptonrasputnik: i asked if this *aprticular* WM had any hooks into ACPI stuff. that's all.12:24
mnepton*particular12:24
iainAnyway, I found hibernate, so I'm gonna.12:25
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rasputnikhighvoltage, rasputnik : i said 'just map a button/keypress to a hibernate script'12:25
xinelstill can't get my hda sound card to work12:25
rasputnikanny way12:25
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McNutellagood morning.12:26
rasputnikis there a tool to stop me eating this whole sack of peanuts in one sitting? because the bag is far too big.12:27
McNutellaSome how when I boot up it shows "kubuntu" even though I am using Ubuntu. How do I change it back to show the Ubuntu Logo ?12:27
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rasputnikMcNutella: do you mean it's showing the kde login screen?12:28
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lz05I would put duct tape over the K, but only if it *really* bugs you that much12:29
McNutellano, rasputnik, as the system is booting p12:29
McNutellaup12:29
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rasputnikMcNutella: on the splash screen thingy? I'd just look away12:30
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lz05McNutella: Seriously though, you could turn off the bootsplash in the bootloader configuration, I believe12:30
McNutellanot the splash screen either.. when you turn PC on, while its booting, the blue kubuntu shows, it used to show the normal Ubuntu12:31
Losty1981ah sorted thanks guys12:31
McNutellamight just put duct tape over the whole screen :)12:31
rasputnikMcNutella: nah, seriously - I think you mean the grub splashscreen? google to see where the xpm is loaded from12:32
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McNutellawhere all the OK's are scrolling up12:32
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rasputnikMcNutella: yeah, that's the grub splash screen. I'd guess kubuntu installs a package that changes the picture it uses12:33
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McNutellaisnt life a bitch12:34
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rasputnikbut there's nothing in my (default) grub config that tells we where it loads *its* picture from12:34
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frojndhello my hacking friends12:34
frojndone q.12:34
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frojndI am using kubuntu and I got disk whic is NTFS formated12:35
lz05McNutella: Could I interest you in LILO? Simply because I never cared too much too look into the configuration of grub12:35
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frojndhow can I format it in something that linux likes it12:35
tanekhow do i turn on shmconfig? synaptics driver tells me to do that12:35
sphivoMcNutella: uninstall kubuntu-artwork-usplash12:35
frojndand it's cheked for linux that works properly12:35
rasputniklz05: take the time to learn grub. it wizzes all over your puny bootloader.12:35
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rasputnikhmm could possibly have been more tactful. ho hum12:35
McNutellasphivo, see that looks farmilliar, but then what happens when its looking for the ubuntu thingiemabobber12:36
rasputnikMcNutella: it'll go back to the default12:36
McNutellalz05, i dont want to touch anything like that :)12:36
sphivoIt'll just load the old Ubuntu one.12:36
SpCombfrojnd: well, you can wipe the partition and put ext3 onto it... do you need to continue using the NTFS partition from windows or keep the data?12:36
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frojndSpComb no I don't use wins anymore12:37
frojndI hate them :P12:37
McNutellaand the main annoyance is, when the system asks for the password, it fades the screen, then it flashes and blah!12:37
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lz05In the early days of me trying to learn Linux, I accidentally piped a file into grub instead of grep....no damage though12:37
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jay_Hi, What is difference between programming on Linux and Windows?12:38
McNutellatee hee12:38
opexocDo you know where in ubuntu filesystem I can find some fonts?12:38
Arafangionjay_: One is a sane environment, the other attempts to be sane, but can only do so with enourmous packages such as Visual Studio 2005 and .NET12:38
frojndSpComb frojnd: well, you can wipe the partition and put ext3 onto it... do you need to continue using the NTFS partition from windows or keep the data?  How can I wipe it.. or format it..12:38
mjrjay_, no fundamental difference; different libraries are available by default, some of which may be available as separate installs for the other too (and some not)12:39
sphivoopexoc: Check out /usr/share/fonts12:39
SpCombfrojnd: then you can just do "mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd<whateveritis><partition>", that will replace the NTFS partition with ext3, keep in mind that it will also destory all data on that partition12:39
rasputnikjay_: depends what language you're using12:40
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McNutellaScottish mainly for me :)12:40
rasputnikjings12:41
mneptonjay_: Linux programming is like carefully crafting an elegant Gothic cathedral stone-by-stone. Windows programming is like gluing gold-painted macaroni ona sheet of construction paper, smearing it with Ebola virus, and then asking people to lick it and tell you how wonderful it tastes.12:41
frojndkeep in mind that it will also destory all data on that partition I allready make sure that data can go to***12:41
frojnd:P12:41
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GusWrkHi guys.  My system has stopped automounting my CDROM, CDRW and Floppy drives.  Checking dmesg after putting a CD shows no new messages, so I'm kinda stuck as to what to do to fix it.12:41
McNutellarasputnik, crivvens!12:41
jay_Why do some companys employ C/C++ programmer under Linux, not under Windows?12:41
SVisormnepton: Biased are you?12:41
CaptainKiddmnepton, lol12:42
Arafangionjay_: Because winapi *sucks*12:42
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rasputnikjay_: unix/linux is written *in* C by programmers for programmers.12:43
McNutellajings and crivvens isnt glasgow :P but well done.. as for the deep fried mars bar, dont tell anyone, its still patent pending :P12:43
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SVisorjay_: Probably because the target OS is Linux. There are a lot of API diffs between Linux and Windows.12:43
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lz05jay_: My favorite language on Windows is Burnt Toast. It embeds a lovely scratching sound into the OS. No wait...that's the login sound that comes with Windows..oh well12:44
McNutellalol12:44
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jamesukHello12:47
nich0shey allz12:47
jamesukCan someone help me with a small networking problem accessing the web?12:47
McNutellatry us jamesuk  :)12:47
morbid88hey guys. I need some more help with my wireless, please. I've managed to load the driver, ipw3945, but now I can't get the daemon to run.12:48
nich0smorbid88: Are you on a Sony Viao?12:48
frojndSpComb what's the difference between fat32 and exte12:48
morbid88nope. I'm on an MSI M660, if that means anything t you.12:48
frojndbeside that ext3 is linux only12:48
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morbid88nich0s: I've been having trouble with it for a whole week. Managed to finally get the driver module up, and I have no idea how I did that.12:49
nich0smorbid88: I have a vaio with that card in it and it worked flawlessly when I loaded Dapper on to it.12:49
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jamesuk[PROBLEM]  I've just installed Ubunto 6.06 on my laptop. I am connected to my wired LAN. I have it configured by DHCP but I cannot access the internet. I can ping websites and get a reply, but when I traceroute the same website it gets to about step 8 and then gives no reply. Any Ideas?12:49
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lz05jamesuk: is it aliased to something like wlan# or eth# (dapper auto-assigned eth1 on my wireless)12:50
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morbid88it seems wireless troubles are comon place with linux.12:50
SpCombfrojnd: uh, I don't know any details, but FAT32 is ancient (win98 anyone?), ext3 is more recent...12:50
jamesuklz05: In Admin -> Networking it has default gateway as eth012:50
nich0smorbid88: I'm on my wifi right now :P12:50
rasputnikfrojnd: ext3 is journalled, fat32 isn't12:50
xicahola12:50
frojndok..12:51
frojndlet's format it ;)12:51
SpCombfrojnd: definatly use ext3 if possible...12:51
Zorlaci don't thinkn fat32 supports large hard drives12:51
Chousukefrojnd: fat32 is not fit for most usage nowadays12:51
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nich0sjamesuk: Have you tried assigning it a static IP at your router and in the network settings of your adapter/12:51
frojndok..12:51
Chousukeyou can't store a DVD image on a FAT32 drive. It can't handle files over 4GB in size. :)12:51
lz05jamesuk: what does ifconfig give you? iwconfig? route? ....I learned mostly on the command line12:52
frojndso ext3 will cover 400gb of HD ?12:52
nich0sfrojnd: oui12:52
Chousukeshouldn't be a problem.12:52
frojndk12:52
nich0sxica: hola.12:52
rasputnikjamesuk: traceroute failing isn't necessariy a problem. do you hane dns setup?12:52
Zorlacfat32 is just failure, never use it12:52
SpCombfrojnd: ext3 can handle terabytes12:52
frojnd;)12:52
rasputnikSpComb: actually only 8Tb.12:53
ChousukeZorlac: it's sometimes needed. Almost all operating systems support it :P12:53
SpCombrasputnik: terabytes12:53
Zorlac=[12:53
jamesuknich0s: I tried that but it wouldn't even resolve a domain name then for some strange reason.12:53
Zorlacliesss12:53
morbid88nich0s: you have any idea how I load the daemon?12:53
Chousuke8Tb = 1 terabyte :P12:53
SpCombI'm somewhat sure he meant 8 terabytes there12:54
rasputnikSpComb: even 8TB isn't Big Enough for some cases. it'll need a rewrite soon12:54
nich0sjamesuk: Are other computers on your network exhibiting the same symptoms?12:54
jamesukrasputnik: it auto-configured my DNS (192.168.0.100) which is correct12:54
ZorlacI'm so sad that ubuntu doesn't come with dmraid already12:54
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ChousukeExt4 will probably arrive someday12:54
Arafangionrasputnik: I'm sure that if you have a few TB, you'll be happy to write the fs yourself.12:54
rasputnikjamesuk: does 'nslookup google.com' work?12:54
ZorlacAnyone know an neffective and easy way to mount my raid drives?12:54
Arafangionrasputnik: As google did.12:54
ArafangionChousuke: It's already being designed.12:55
rasputnikArafangion: lots of people have >8TB, it's not a ridiculous amount of storage12:55
jamesuknich0s: No I have XP Pro on the laptop too and thats fine - I am on my main tower here and thats fine too. I had SUSE on the laptop before and there were no problems there.12:55
nich0smorbid88: I'm not going to lie to you... I never won the battle with the WIFI. :12:55
Chousukebesides, there already exist filesystems fit for large amounts of data12:55
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Chousukelike ZFS12:55
rasputnikChousuke: not for linux though12:55
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nich0sjamesuk: A simple no would have been cool :P What about the 'nslookup google.com'?12:55
jamesukrasputnik: yes nslookup google.com works12:55
nich0skewl12:56
rasputnikjamesuk: then dns is fine. what exactly doesn't work12:56
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jamesuknich0s: :)12:56
Chousukerasputnik: AFAIK it's being ported or something12:56
rasputnikChousuke: yes, but only as a fuse layer. it'll be slow12:56
morbid88nich0s: So we are already doomed.12:56
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parkour_druidhello12:56
jamesukrasputnik: I can't get a webpage to show in Firefox, it just times out (as does traceroute) ping is fine though.12:56
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rasputnikjamesuk: try a 'telnet www.whereever.com 80', then mash return a few times. see if you can connect12:57
rasputnikjamesuk: the reason I'm not bothered about traceroute is that lots of isps block it.12:57
nich0sjamesuk: There aren't any proxies hardcoded in to firefox, are there?12:58
SpCombblock ICMP TTL expired replies?12:58
Zorlacapt-get uses the packages listed online right?12:58
jamesukrasputnik: I tried telnet www.google.co.uk 80 and pressed enter a few times - it came up Trying 1.0.0.012:58
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rasputnikjamesuk: what ip does it actually say?12:59
jamesuknich0s: Just checked - says Direct Connection to the Internet12:59
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nich0sjamesuk: I guess I shouldn't be trying to help people after being up for 48 hours :P01:00
jamesukrasputnik: Just came up exactly as "Trying 1.0.0.0 ..." then nothing01:00
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jamesuknich0s: 48 hours! How are you still awake! Get some sleep! :p01:00
rasputnikjamesuk: that's f-cked. that's the wrong ip for google. type 'set|grep -i proxy' on the console01:01
Zorlacanything on (http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages) should be able to be apt-get'd right?01:01
SVisorjamesuk: If it realy tried to access IP 1.0.0.0 then your DNS is totally hoaxed.  What does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" tell you?01:01
jamesukrasputnik: Just came up telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out01:01
_cerberus_When trying to mount a remote directory using "mount -t nfs myserver:/home/username /mnt/myserver" I get an error stating "mount: RPC: Program not registered" does anyone know what could be causing this and how to fix it?01:01
rasputnik_cerberus_: install portmap and start it01:01
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rasputnik_cerberus_: on the client01:02
nich0sjamesuk: Should be like 64.233.meh.something01:02
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jamesukrasputnik: I types 'set|grep -i proxy' and it came up with a load of options with -B --bts etc01:02
_cerberus_I already have it installed and started01:02
jamesukSVisor: cat /etc/resolv.conf comes up "nameserver 192.168.0.100" which is my router address01:03
rasputnikjamesuk: ok, try 'telnet google.com 99' too. see what ip it tries then01:03
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rasputnikjamesuk: because it looks like exactly like you have a proxy configured01:03
jamesukrasputnik: "Trying 1.0.0.0 ..." again :(01:03
lz05jamesuk: have you tried a simple dhclient (or dhcpcd) on the interface?01:04
XeniXHey everyone, I just installed some software updates (compiz-core, compiz-plugins and some other stuff) and now my windows have no icons/borders.... compiz gives me the error "unable to load plugin: gconf". Any Ideas?01:04
SVisorjamesuk: It should not be your router, it should be your DNS... I do not know how Ubunut scripts DHCP. But DHCP fails to set up DNS.01:04
rasputnikjamesuk: that's bizarre. but a ping works?01:04
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jamesuklz05: I typed dhclient - it came up "Permission Denied"01:04
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rasputnikjamesuk: ok, one more for me ;   telnet 64.233.167.99 8001:05
lz05jamesuk: as root, or sudo <command>01:05
rasputnikjamesuk: which is (one of) googles ip01:05
jamesukrasputnik: Yes I get a reply from a ping request01:05
nich0sjamesuk: type sudo in front of it.01:05
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rasputnikjamesuk: telnet is tcp, ping is icmp. they're not the same01:05
Flamekebabaloha, all, I'll make it quick - I've installed Gallery2 via synaptic, but I haven't the foggiest where the package is installed, a little help?01:05
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lupine_85dpkg -l <packagename>01:06
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lupine_85gives you a list of files installed by the package01:06
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jamesukrasputnik: Yep telnet 64.233.167.99 80 came up as "Connected to 64.233.167.99" but when I press enter I get "Connection closed by foreign host"01:06
lupine_85no doubt there's a tab in synaptic that does the same thing (I use adept)01:06
rasputnikjamesuk: that's fine. your dns server is full of shit.01:06
SVisorjamesuk: If "ping some.ip.number.net" works but "host some.domain.com" does not. THen you network is set up correctly except for the DNS part.01:07
rasputnikjamesuk: just do a 'host linux.org' to check. bet it says 1.0.0.001:07
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jamesukrasputnik: I have the same settings on Windows for DNS and there is no probs there01:07
NineTeen67CometDoes anyone know where I can start looking to see why my box wont reboot/shutdown? It hangs at "Will Reboot/Hault Now" .. where it used to click off and stop, or start booting again ..01:07
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SVisorjamesuk: Check with your ISP what the IP of their DNS is and modify resolv.conf accordingly and then try again.01:07
frandavid100hi guys01:07
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frandavid100could you give me your opinion on this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25334301:08
jamesukrasputnik: host linux.org comes up "linux.org has address 198.182.196.48"01:08
Peacefulmundahello i need help01:08
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me01:08
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jamesukSVisor: can I not give my router IP as DNS and it will forward to my ISP?01:08
Peacefulmunda hello i need help01:08
Peacefulmunda<Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me01:08
_cerberus_turns out I hadn't restarted the nfs-kernel server, working now01:09
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mookyjamif its running a dns server it will01:09
_cerberus_Peacefulmunda, ask and we'll try01:09
rasputnikjamesuk: ah right! so dns works, but your system isn't configured to USE dns!01:09
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rasputnikjamesuk: you need to look at /etc/nsswitch.conf. tell me what the 'hosts' line says01:09
SVisorjamesuk: Depends on router (and if its correctly set up). It works for me 192.168.1.1 is my gateway and DNS.01:09
compengihow can i kill a process in the terminal?01:09
frojndI used mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 in hope system will format in ext3, but at the and of the progress was smth like this: Writing inode tables: done01:10
frojnd Creating journal (32768 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done01:10
frojnd    This filesystem will be automatically checked every 25 mounts or01:10
frojnd 180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.01:10
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rasputnikSVisor: if host works, dns works. its a name service switch problem.01:10
CromagDKcompengi: kill -9 pid01:10
CromagDKuse ps for overview of processes01:10
frojndps -aux01:10
CromagDKah ye01:10
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rasputnikfrojnd: that's what it should do. now mount the partition.01:10
jamesukrasputnik: hosts line says "hosts: files dns mdns"01:10
lupine_85frojnd: yep that's an ext3 filesystem01:11
DrZerobye01:11
frojndhow can I mouint it01:11
lupine_85(ext3 is ext2 with a journal)01:11
lz05jamesuk: does "cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep nameserver" give you any info?01:11
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SVisorrasputnik: Did "host" work? ... did not see that.01:11
frojndmnt /dev/sdb1 /home/q/sdb101:11
frojnd?01:11
lupine_85sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /path/to/mountpoint01:11
frojndaha01:11
frojndtnx01:11
_masonGday, Im having this problem with sound in wine "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"01:12
jamesuklzo5: it gives "nameserver 192.168.0.100"01:12
rasputniklz05, SVisor : DNS works! it's just not using it for name resolution some reason01:12
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lupine_85do you have a sane /etc/hosts ?01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
LoRezWarning: `Peacefulmunda' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
Peacefulmundacan anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu01:12
ChousukePeacefulmunda:  No.01:12
J_Phi all01:13
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ChaosFanPeacefulmunda: you'll never get help that way01:13
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rasputnikPeacefulmunda: no, and you might as well leave now.01:13
jamesukrasputnik: hosts line in nsswitch.conf says "hosts: files dns mdns"01:13
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Peacefulmundaman i am new here01:14
SVisorrasputnik: Ok... must have scrolled aways before I noted that. "ping 1.2.3.4" - ok, network is running, "host a.b.c" - ok DNS is running, then we have left switching01:14
seshomaruhello , is there a command that tells me the size of my memeory?01:14
Peacefulmundai dont know how to get help01:14
Peacefulmundawho should i contact01:14
rasputnikjamesuk: I know, and that should work. you can swap the words 'dns' and 'files' to test?01:14
frojnd<lupine_85> i mount it, and when I clik on the partition it says that I don't have the permisson for reading...01:14
Flamekebabdoes anyone happen to just know off the top of their head where gallery2 installs? (I'm not at the system right now)01:14
frojndI wannt to read and write on that partition01:14
lupine_85frojnd: stick it in your fstab01:14
lupine_85man fstab (you want the "user" option)01:14
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cardonhttp://www.world-la2.ru01:14
cardonhttp://www.world-la2.ru01:14
cardonhttp://www.world-la2.ru01:14
rasputnikPeacefulmunda: I've got a screenful of crap from you, so now I'm going to ignore you. most people will do that automatically01:14
nich0squickly, I need a music player that will support podcasts01:14
Peacefulmundai am sorry01:15
lz05Flamekebab: try a whereis on it01:15
rasputnikPeacefulmunda: see? cardon is doing it too01:15
Peacefulmundai dont even know how to use irc01:15
Peacefulmundai am new here01:15
_masonDoes anyone know what my problem is? Sound + Wine ?01:15
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Peacefulmundai am trying to quite windows01:15
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_mason'quit01:15
Peacefulmundaquit**01:15
rasputnikfrojnd: just mount it somewhere, and off you go.01:16
Peacefulmundahey rasputnik can u help me01:16
nich0sPeacefulmunda: Well then I welcome you on behalf of the "group of people who friggin hate windows"01:16
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Flamekebablz05, I need to find the package, unfortunately, it's not installed on this laptop (and to install it I'd need to download apache, etc. etc..)01:16
syouthPeacefulmunda: Speak your mind and anyone here can try to help you.01:16
Flamekebabit's installed on a PC in my office01:16
_masonOhh, God do i hate windows01:16
PeacefulmundaThanks MAN :D01:16
rasputniklupine_85: I think the partition is ext3 now, does he still need 'user'?01:16
FlamekebabI dislike Windows01:16
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_masonBut, Hating windows doesnt solve my sound issue?01:17
nich0sbut it makes you feel all warm inside.01:17
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Peacefulmundanor does it solves mine01:17
lupine_85rasputnik: if he wants users to be able to mount it, yes01:17
jamesukrasputnik: I swapped dns and files and saved it - do I have to restart the network / computer for it to take effect?01:17
lz05Flamekebab: ok,...thought you might have found + installed it01:17
lupine_85jamesuk: no :)01:17
rasputnikjamesuk: no, just try firefox again01:17
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Flamekebablz05, it's installed on a machine in the office, but I'm connected to that machine via webmin01:18
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syouthPeacefulmunda: Would you please be specific and tell what problem you have exactly?01:18
Flamekebaband I'm trying to figure out where the sodding Gallery2 directory is01:18
rasputniknich0s: aren't they just mp3s?01:18
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morbid88lupine_85: any chance you can help me out again? I've messed around with the system, and now I've got ipw3945 running, but I can't see a wireless device.01:19
Peacefulmundawell syouth, my net provider uses ISA server at his end and when i use windows i have to install ISA server client01:19
morbid88and I can't load the daemon.01:19
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nich0srasputnik: mp4s.. they like to be difficult.01:19
Peacefulmundaand he also uses some DHCP thingy01:19
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seshomaruFlamekebab, did you try whereis Gallery2 ?01:19
rasputniknich0s: :) mplayer can do them01:19
jamesukrasputnik: Nothing again, just stays saying "Connecting to www.yahoo.co.uk"01:19
syouthISA?01:19
Peacefulmundai can access the provider website but can't open any other website01:19
pitillohi good morning, how can I know which ubuntu version I have installed?01:19
Flamekebabseshomaru, on which system?01:19
lupine_85morbid88: cool01:19
lupine_85ok, you need to do the ipw3945d thing01:19
rasputnikjamesuk: fuck sake! is this a fresh install? because it's hosed!01:20
pitilloseeing the apt sources?01:20
nich0srasputnik: Your personal preference?01:20
Flamekebabif I do it on this laptop, where it's not installed, I get "gallery2: " and that's it01:20
lupine_85also check dmesg for errors01:20
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SVisorjamesuk: You might need to restart firefox thou.01:20
jamesukrasputnik: Yes I installed it last night01:20
TheDudemorbid88, haha ya omo01:20
rasputniknich0s: it can just do everything01:20
Peacefulmundadid anyone understand my problem01:20
lupine_85(Dutchy had a switch that s/he had to flipm then reload the module)01:20
TheDudemorbid88, lo chashavti sheemtza otcha kan01:20
nich0srasputnik: FANTASTIC *tackle*01:20
Peacefulmundasyouth: did u get it?01:20
jamesukSVisor: Yes I did restart it, but no good :(01:20
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morbid88Buzi?01:20
TheDudeyes yes yes01:20
syouthOk. Something like firewall etc01:20
rasputnikjamesuk: christ. can you paste /etc/hosts somewhere01:20
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lz05Flamekebab: can you ssh into the remote machine and try whereis?01:20
Peacefulmundayes01:20
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earthianhello01:21
iced_boyciao01:21
jamesukrasputnik: Yes give me a few mins01:21
nich0shi01:21
shediTheDude, evrit ?01:21
Flamekebablz05, I shall see if I can set up SSH01:21
earthiani have compiled and installed the new kernel version 2.6.17-1101:21
TheDudeshedi, nu ma...01:21
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Peacefulmundasyouth: i think it acts like a firewall as well01:21
morbid88lupine_85: how do I set up the daemon? I saw some script lines... but... couldn't quite get it.01:21
pitillowell, thanks anyway :)01:21
Peacefulmundasyouth: the ISA server client that is ...01:21
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gomekAnyone here have much experience with customizing the ubuntu install cds?01:21
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earthianhowever when i boot i get this error: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(0,0)01:22
lz05Flamekebab: beyond trying that, or being on the physical machine (or having previous knowledge)...I can't think of quick solutions01:22
earthiananybody know why and how to try fix it?01:22
Peacefulmundarasputnik: can u help me now man01:22
ibob63hi. I am having problem with my routers and think I need to add a new dns server to my linux machine. Can anyone tell me how to set the primary and secondary dns servers on ubuntu?01:22
Flamekebablz05, I guess I'll have to find some clothes and wander up to the office then!01:22
zpeefUbuntu finds my network card, it has the right ip, and it seem to work. But it can only send packages, not recieve. Both on LAN and WAN01:22
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zpeefHelp01:22
Flamekebabgetting dressed sucks..01:22
WindowsUninstallHi all01:22
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seshomaruFlamekebab, sorry I think I misunderstood your problem....01:23
syouthI've never bumped into ISA servers or clients but here is one generic HOW-TO: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Web-Browsing-Behind-ISA-Server-HOWTO.html01:23
rasputnikearthian: that usually means your disk is unreadable by the kernel. did you setup the right filesystem support?01:23
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KyoLptp`how do I add a new repository to my source.list?01:23
TheDudehow can I set Remote Desktop on ubuntu ?01:23
nich0sFlamekebab: You have just won the prestigious random award.01:23
KyoLptp`that is, where is the source.list?01:23
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earthianwell yeah :S01:23
rasputnikKyoLptp`: with a text editor? it's in /etc/apt01:23
k3nobihi, sice my ubuntu installation (previously I had gentoo) I get a black screen from time to time after I worked for a while01:23
lupine_85 morbid88: http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/README.ipw3945d01:23
KyoLptp`thanks01:23
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_masonAdditionaly What is the port i need to open for remote desktop?01:23
earthianext3 is enabled in kernel config01:23
Flamekebabnich0s, being geeky is all about putting in extra effort now to be lazy later01:23
k3nobiit says sync out of range01:23
lupine_85download the binary from http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/ipw3945d-1.7.22.tgz01:24
griffith_exoibob63: your DNS servers go in /etc/resolv.conf. Primary one goes first.01:24
syouthPeacefulmunda: I think you could install that "ntlmaps" (with sudo apt-get install ntlmaps) and configure it.. I really don't have a real solution, as I don't know nothing else on the topic. Sorry01:24
lupine_85k3nobi: compiled in or as a module? :)01:24
rasputnikearthian: is your rootfs ext3? and it has to be in, not just a module01:24
k3nobibut I think I configured xorg very well01:24
nich0sFlamekebab: I have been ip for a long time now... I know what you mean01:24
k3nobilupine_85: ??01:24
earthianhm01:24
earthianchecking01:24
Peacefulmundasyouth: i am looking at it now01:24
Peacefulmundathanks man01:24
lupine_85erm, sorry. @earthian01:24
lupine_85d'oh!01:24
ibob63griffith_exo: thanks. i do I need to restart the network for a change of settings to take effect?01:25
syouthGood. I'm not really sure, if this is what you need, but go for it...01:25
TheDudeneed help - how can I set Remote Desktop on ubuntu ?01:25
rasputnikibob63: no01:25
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morbid88lupine_85: it says it can't find the device.01:25
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tRSShow does one access an ftp site over ssl (or commonly known as ftps) in ubuntu?01:25
earthian:)01:25
lupine_85morbid88: what step in the readme?01:26
zpeefUbuntu finds my network card, it has the right IP, and it seems to work. But it can only send packages, not recieve. Both on LAN and WAN. Could anyone help me out?01:26
morbid88uh... just executing it first.01:26
syouthPeacefulmunda: Here is one thread, maybe you can dig some useful information: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-05/3834.html01:26
lupine_85so "sudo ipw3945d --timeout=-1"01:26
morbid88lupine_85: sorry. Do I need to deal with the process id at this time?01:26
lz05zpeef: what info can you get from route?01:26
jamesukrasputnik: Hosts files is at http://www.browndogbytes.com/hosts.txt01:27
Otacon22in wich repository is mplayer?01:27
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zpeeflz05: What is route? I'm a newbie with linux/ubuntu01:27
jamesukrasputnik: I could be wrong but could it be an IPV6 issue?01:27
lupine_85morbid88: just run it as root for now01:27
lz05zpeef: bring up terminal...type in route01:28
lupine_85zpeef: it's a table that tells linux where to send internet packets01:28
TheDudecan I set Remote Desktop on my ubuntu, and access it from another computer ?01:28
syouthroute is "The path that network traffic takes from its source to its destination. Also, a possible path from a given host to another host or destination."01:28
rasputnikjamesuk: are you using ipv6?01:28
lupine_85if you've only got the one network connection, it's pretty simple :)01:28
jamesukrasputnik: No01:28
lupine_85"ip route show" will give you your current route table01:28
rasputnikjamesuk: then no :)01:28
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ccookeTheDude: Yes, you can01:29
lupine_85normally you'd want "sudo ip route add default via <router ip address> dev <interface>"01:29
rasputnikjamesuk: hosts file is fine. (127.0.1.1 Linux is a bit odd, but shouldn't break anything)01:29
kozmicI've bought a new drive and wanna move ubuntu over to it. Will this work: both are ext3. Boot from livecd and do so: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda bs=1M;  then fix grub; and put in the new drive so its hda and boot it ?01:29
TheDudeccooke, 10x. how can I do that?01:29
jamesukrasputnik: :) Whats all that in hosts about IPv6 is that all ok if I'm not using it?01:29
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lupine_85kozmic: it probably will work01:29
ccookeTheDude: You should see configuration under System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop01:29
SVisorjamesuk: Yes they are ignored if IPV6 is not used.01:29
rasputnikjamesuk: it's just there for if you do use ipv6.01:29
lupine_85but if the drives aren't the same size, it's a bit wasteful01:29
kozmiclupine_85: hehe, "probably" :P well, ill give it a shot anyone01:30
ccookeTheDude: if you don't, then there's just a small package you need to install called 'vino'01:30
lupine_85jamesuk: ipv6 is loaded by default in daper's kernel. it's not a big deal01:30
kozmiclupine_85: yeah, but i can use expand to resize the new drive afterwards :)01:30
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rasputnikjamesuk: are you sure you don't have to register your machine with the accesspoint somehow?01:30
lupine_85true enough01:30
SVisorjamesuk: Check the magic URL "about:config" in Firefox to make sure your not using IPV601:30
kozmiclupine_85: then we agree? hehe, if not.. you have any other easy way to do it?01:30
zpeefHmm, localnet says "Gateway *" and default says "192.168.2.1" which is my router btw. Localnet has a genmask, but not default01:30
TheDudeccooke, 10q very much01:30
jamesukrasputnik: No, I haven't had to with my Red Hat and SUSE systems01:30
ccookeTheDude: Ubuntu uses a protocol called VNC for remote desktop. It's not supported by the Windows Remote Desktop application, but it's very well supported otherwise; there are dozens of clients for it01:31
lupine_85kozmic: personally I'd just mount the two and "sudo cp -a " to the mountpoint01:31
morbid88lupine_85: I'm now running the 686 kernel. That's the 64bit, right?01:31
TheDudeccooke, yeah I know vnc01:31
lupine_85obviously, copying everything but the mountpoint...01:31
lupine_85morbid88: no01:31
rasputnikjamesuk: you've got some package installed which is breaking your name resolution in odd ways (just in case you have short term memory loss).01:31
lupine_85amd64-generic and amd64-k8 are 64-bit01:31
TheDudeccooke, but I wanted to know if it's possible to do it with rdp as well01:31
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morbid88aaaah. Wait, so I shouldn't be running 686?01:31
kozmiclupine_85: but i need to keep all symlinks etc correct, will -a do that?01:31
jamesukSVisor: In about:config there is a line "network.dns.disableIPv6     default   boolean   false"01:31
rasputnikjamesuk: dns resolution is fine, but for some reason it's not using dns to resolve names.01:32
lupine_85kozmic: it's equiv. to dpR, so yes01:32
TheDudeccooke, btw, if we're talking about it already, do you know what's the diff between rdp and rdp v5 ?01:32
syouthi686 is generic x86 with advanced instruction set...01:32
nich0sim geting tired so if my englishstarts getting bad... let me know :P01:32
kozmiclupine_85: thanks for your help01:32
nich0srasputnik: What did you say the name of the player waz?01:32
rasputnikjamesuk: and this is a *global* problem - not related to firefox01:32
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ccookeTheDude: Not from a feature-level, no01:32
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rasputniknich0s: mplayer - does all movie formats and most audio too01:32
jamesukrasputnik: Its only got the packages that are installed as default - Package Manager won't connected to the web to add any more :)01:32
TheDudeccooke, oh wait, does it mean that if I use the ubuntu Remote Desktop feature, then I can't connect to it using windows Remote Desktop?01:33
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rasputnikjamesuk: so it's never worked?01:33
zpeeflz05: Did you see what I wrote?01:33
lz05zpeef: does it mention both interfaces?01:33
morbid88lupine_85: I launched it, got a pid, and now I'm waiting. nothing new on ifconfig or iwconfig.01:33
gomekAnyone here know how to strip everything except for ubuntu-base from the installer cd?01:33
jamesukrasputnik: This is the first time I've hooked it up to the network since installation (last night) so no.01:33
ccookeTheDude: That's what I said, yes01:33
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lupine_85morbid88: try removing and adding the module into the kernel01:33
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lupine_85and check dmesg for any error messages01:33
zpeeflz05: Both default and localnet are Iface eth0 if that's what you mean01:34
ccookeTheDude: RDP is a proprietary protocol; I *have* seen a linux server for it, but it's a very, very long way from ready to release01:34
rasputnikgomek: ubuntu-base is just a metapackage that lists everything else as a dependency01:34
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SVisorrasputnik: Maybe broken symlinks for  /usr/lib/libnss_* ... might they cause this kind of trouble?!01:34
rasputnikSVisor: sure, but on a stock install??01:35
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gomekrasputnik Along with ubuntu-base's dependencies, of course.01:35
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rixxonhow can i stealth my laptop on the ethernet? it responds to echo requests and runs an smtp! *shiver*01:35
morbid88lupine_85: now I can't get ipw3945 to load again, but the only thing it says is that it can't find the device.01:35
nich0srasputnik: do you speak french or spanish?01:35
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SVisorjamesuk: Is this a clean install. Or over something old?01:35
rasputniknich0s: a bit, why?01:35
nich0srasputnik: all i see is kmplayer ( a warning in case I slip )01:36
jamesukSVisor: Clean install - wiped HDD before install - created a partition for XP Pro and one for Ubuntu01:36
TheDudeccooke, got it. 10x01:36
TheDudeccooke, can you help in another question I have ?01:36
SVisorjamesuk: Well this should not happen...Im out of ideas01:36
morbid88TheDude: this is driving me nuts and making me somewhat unhappy.01:36
rasputniknich0s:  you need to enable multiverse01:36
lz05zpeef: what info about eth0 are you able to get from "ifconfig"01:36
TheDudemorbid88, and what does that might be?01:36
jamesukmorbid88: Me too!01:36
ccookeTheDude: I don't know yet...01:37
jamesukSVisor: Looks like a re-install is in order?01:37
TheDudeccooke, :-)01:37
morbid88jamesuk: you've got the same problem, right?01:37
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mathieure-install? that sounds like ms windows01:37
rasputnikjamesuk: sorry mate, it's just bizarre. I'd try a reinstall, yeah. it really shouldn't  be this fucked without some kind of voodoo curse01:37
nich0srasputnik: multiverse is in the category of not free and i cheap?01:37
nich0si AM cheap01:37
TheDudeccooke, how can I set a share on my ubuntu, that will be accessable from other computers on my network?01:38
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SVisorjamesuk: Hmm I doubt it will help. It probably breaks the same way. Unless you have some sort of freaky out of space error during install.01:38
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jamesukrasputnik: Could it just be a bad installation or could my install CD be fucked?01:38
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rasputnikjamesuk: one last thought : is your house built on an ancient indian burial ground?01:38
TheDudemorbid88, you didn't answered my quest...01:38
zpeeflz05: TX packets:212 errors. Interrupt:9 Base address 0x9800. Also, what is Bcast? It says 192.168.2.25501:38
nich0sjamesuk: Do you live near a major military installation?01:38
morbid88TheDude: my wireless issues.01:38
ccookeTheDude: System -> Admninistration -> Shared Folders :-)01:38
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TheDudemorbid88, you should see a doctor about that01:38
SVisorjamesuk: Do not forget all the needed prayers and sacrifices during install.01:38
rasputniknich0s: not free as in 'copyright fascism', it's still free as in 'costs no money'01:38
jamesukrasputnik: It could be! :)01:39
lupine_85morbid88: without knowing why it's not working, it's hard to suggest anything01:39
lupine_85anything in dmesg?01:39
morbid88lupine_85: I concur.01:39
nich0srasputnik: les potes01:39
morbid88lupine_85: dmesg just says the same thing... device not found.01:39
jamesuknich0s: No I don't think so01:39
rasputnikjamesuk: try a fresh install, if that doesn't help try the mailing lists maybe (will be easier to post config files)01:39
nich0sjamesuk: well then just damn it all to hell :P01:39
nich0sj/k01:39
TheDudeccooke, hmm.. right, forgot that one. but I do want to learn how to do it, the terminal way.. :-) which means, configuring the samba manually01:40
morbid88lupine_85: and also disagrees about version of symbol something struct.01:40
jamesukThanks for your help everyone anyway! I'm off to wipe it and try again!01:40
nich0sjamesuk: Good luck01:40
jamesukthanks bye!01:40
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nich0sjamesuk: Don't accidently create a win part this time.01:41
jamesuk:)01:41
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lupine_85morbid88: argh01:41
nich0sPIRATES01:41
lz05zpeef: the interface is currently up with an ip, right (inet addr)01:41
nich0s:P01:41
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morbid88lupine_85: okay, this is weird. If said "can't find device", and then it did a . . . . . done.01:41
zpeeflz05: Yeah IP is fine, so is mask01:41
ccookeTheDude: Google is your friend, there. It would take me a *long* time to explain that here01:42
lz05zpeef: you don't have a mac address filter on, do you?01:42
HobbseeB4zzA-2: see #kubuntu01:42
lupine_85quick note: you do have the firmware/microcode installed in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/`uname -r`, don't you?01:42
TheDudeccooke, thought so. no easy shortcuts there :-)  10x again man01:42
zpeeflz05: If you mean on the router, no. If you mean on Ubuntu, I have no idea. It's a fresh install01:42
morbid88lupine_85: yes, I do.01:42
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lupine_85ok... can you pastebin the relevant chunk of dmesg ?01:43
morbid88lupine_85: of trying to install it?01:43
lupine_85wherever the module is failing to load01:44
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morbid88okay. Pastebin is drop it into the chat?01:44
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AshyIsMehey01:44
lupine_85!pastebin01:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:44
AshyIsMehas anyone here used mezzo?01:44
AshyIsMei've got it installed but the view all programs thing doesnt do anything01:44
lz05zpeef: yeah..on the router...umm......try bringing up you router's web config, at least to see if you are getting that far01:44
AshyIsMeand neither does the change background picture button01:44
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Otacon22in wich repository is mplayer?01:44
DarkMageZOtacon22, multiverse01:45
zpeeflz05: The Ubuntu machine doesn't even get a ping from the router01:45
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Otacon22DarkMageZ, yes, but of wich repository?01:45
zpeeflz05: So it's most likely a hardware/driver issue I'd guess. But I have no idea01:45
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mbvoI'01:46
lz05zpeef: try doing "ipconfig eth0 down && ipconfig eth0 up && dhclient"01:46
DarkMageZOtacon22, that doesn't make sence. but you can find mplayer in the multiverse repository01:47
DarkMageZ!multiverse01:47
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:47
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lz05zpeef: I wouldn't think it's the hardware if it's got an interface alias assigned to it01:47
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A-L-P-H-Aanyone know how I should go about debuging sound issues?01:48
mbvoI'm getting an error saying totem could not play 'dvd:///media/cdrom'01:48
morbid88lupine_85: now i give you this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2291101:48
mbvohow can i fix this and play a dvd?01:48
lupine_85yep :)01:48
DarkMageZ!restrictedformats01:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:48
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A-L-P-H-AI have no sound.  I have a sound blaster live! 24bit, with SPDIF (digital coax) out to my amp.  I have no sound.  Any kind soul able to help me out?01:49
rambo3!sound > A-L-P-H-A01:49
zpeeflz05: Command not found, or are these seperate commands?01:49
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DarkMageZmbvo, see what ubotu said about restricted formats. the answer is in the wiki entre :)01:49
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morbid88lupine_85: and here's the dmesg output for ipw3945: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2291201:49
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A-L-P-H-Arambo3: thanks.01:50
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mbvoit's telling me no URI handler implemented for dvd01:50
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lz05zpeef: ooops! ifconfig..not ipconfig01:50
lupine_85ok... the two are linked. stuct_module is a core part of the kernel - if it's a different version, the module won't load01:51
zpeefSiocsifflags: No access01:51
lz05zpeef: also - yeah...but they should work like a one-liner script01:51
lupine_85is the module in question - /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/ipw3945.ko - the right one?01:51
ens01mbnhello, i know this is the wrong channel for this question but, do anyone know where i can ask questions about c programming?01:51
lupine_85##c ?01:51
malice I just got a new usb PCMCIA card for my laptop, but when I put it in and connect my usb device Ubuntu does not see anything. Anyone point me in the right direction?01:51
morbid88lupine_85: I just tried again, using ./load in the ipw3945-1.0.0 directory, and it's loaded, it just says, again, that there's no device.01:51
ens01mbnno ordenary c01:52
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morbid88it says it's also loaded the daemon.01:52
DarkMageZmbvo, according to the wiki, the version of gstreamer in dapper doesn't support playing dvds. you could install gxine or totem-xine to get it to work01:52
SVisorens01mbn: Just ask.. then we can start flaming you :-)01:52
rambo3morbid88, depmod -a01:52
lupine_85morbid88: but did the module load this time round?01:52
morbid88lupine_85: yes, it seems to have done.01:52
rambo3sry it doesnt load01:52
DarkMageZmbvo, have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats it's a good read01:52
morbid88it shows up in lsmod01:52
lupine_85ok, get rid of that other module01:52
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morbid88the one in my lib dir?01:54
lupine_85as it's useless to you, and is getting in the way01:54
lupine_85yes01:54
Ackeubu_ i need too split a vfat drive to get a new boot drive. how do i do that? there is maybe 75% stuffed with stuff to save01:54
lupine_85then post the new output of dmesg01:54
lupine_85and let's see why you're not getting an interface01:54
zpeeflz05: Got SIOCSIFFLAGS: No access01:54
ens01mbn*s* oki, i have (i think) a pointer to a char[]  with contains numbers. and want to cast to int, how do i do?01:54
SVisorint w=*(int)ptr;01:54
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lz05zpeef: ok...try each individually as root, or with sudo in front of each01:54
=== lupine_85 shudders... C pointers...
SVisoroops : int w=*(int*)ptr; is more correct01:54
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nich0srasputnik: Hey there... I installed the package, now how do I use the proggie?01:55
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lz05zpeef: remember, there is command history. work those arrow keys!01:55
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rambo3bash_history01:55
mathieuens01mbn: note that it's non portable code. depends on byte-ordering01:55
morbid88lupine_85: okay, I've got a new pastebin, I'll explain what you see there. I unloaded the module, saw that it's not in memory, then loaded it again. It gave me an error, but still loaded.01:55
morbid88lupine_85: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d2291401:55
KoskenCould someone give me a hand on updating kernel. What command to upgrade?01:56
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zpeeflz05: Ok it seems to be doing something now after running dhclient. But I don't know what01:56
lz05not everyone uses bash....but i don't know why....01:56
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nich0szpeef: It's contemplating your demise.01:56
ens01mbnget error: invalid type argument of `unary *'01:56
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lupine_85ok, can you just dmesg without the |grep ?01:56
lz05zpeef: good...it's supposed to be getting info from your router about the network configuration01:57
rambo3morbid88, you do depmod -a after modprobe01:57
finalbetaanyone else having the problem that evolution can't sync the inbox? got it every two days or something, this product is really buggy and lacks many features thunderbird has :/01:58
lupine_85rambo3: you do it before a modprobe...01:58
morbid88ramo3: after I loaded it?01:58
morbid88rambo3: after I loaded it?01:58
Hoxzeris it possible to broadcast mic singal via sound server?01:58
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morbid88lupine_85: I dit it before unloading.01:58
lz05zpeef: try pinging google or something01:58
morbid88I used modprobe -r01:58
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rambo3morbid88, before01:58
lupine_85depmod is irrelevent in this situation01:58
lupine_85we know what the dependencies are, and they're loaded01:58
morbid88lupine_85: you can see the sequence. It loads. It just doesn't see the hardware.01:59
morbid88lupine_85: which, I must add, is FAR better than where I was yesterday :-)01:59
ens01mbnSVisor: didn't see you're correction... now i get a bus error exec the program01:59
zpeeflz05: No DHCPOFFERS recieved. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping01:59
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lupine_85morbid88: sorry but I have to go :(01:59
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der0bHow do I install a ttf type font?01:59
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SVisorens01mbn: Does the pointer point into anything? And does it realy contain enought with bytes. int might be 8,16,32 or more bytes.02:00
syouthder0b: You want MS corefonts?02:00
morbid88lupine_85: thanks for the help anyway.02:00
der0bnope.  have a ttf that I want to use02:00
lz05zpeef: cool! umm...want to statically assign the ip?02:00
SVisorens01mbn: bits not bytes... man02:01
zpeeflz05: Ok, then run dhclient again?02:01
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tristan_hi there, anyone familiar with the 'sed' command?02:01
ens01mbnSVisor: i've got a char * token = strtok(line, ":"); and if i print the token i get the numbers correctly so i guess token is a pointer to the token?!02:02
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Jamminpotatowhat is a simple way to find out my localmachine's ip address?02:02
hantooifconfig02:02
lz05zpeef: "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.100" (ip can be your choosing - preferably with the first 3 sets matching your router's)02:02
ens01mbnSVisor: and how do i check if enough bits?02:02
SVisorens01mbn: Ah thats wrong.. You still have a array of chars.. try "atoi( token )" instead.02:03
nickolassguys i ve downloaded edgy eft and the md5sum failed, does the installer of ubuntu check the md5 and the cd quality?02:03
nich0sdapper does02:04
nich0sso I would assume so02:04
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x1ntoguys what do they mean with this ? : -browse to apps>compiz>general>allscreens>options02:04
x1nto-double click on active_plugins in the options folder02:04
x1nto-add in each command in the following order02:04
nich0sbelieve it would be an option off of the live CD menu02:04
SVisornickolass: And even if it does not. There is something wrong with the iso.02:04
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x1ntogconf-editor02:05
ens01mbnsvisor: Yaay... working... but how do i know if it's an array of chars or a string then?02:05
archangelpetrowhat lang?02:05
Shoiabis ubuntu have support US Robotics USR5699B  56k  modem????????02:05
SVisorens01mbn: We are so off topic as we can be. Maybe a good C book would be nice.02:11
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ens01mbnsvisor: *s* ok, thanks for your help, very thankfull!!!02:11
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zpeeflz05: It has a static ip now. Still no pong from the router nor google.com02:11
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SVisorens01mbn: In C.. An array of chars terminated with a NULL 0x00 is a string. And thats all from me on this topic.02:11
lz05zpeef: after that "route add default gw <router ip> eth0" and echo "nameserver <router or other dns server>" >> /etc/resolv.conf02:11
x1ntocan somebody help me with a little compiz problem02:11
Koskenhow to update kernel? :S02:11
x1ntothat I dont understand ?02:11
jirihavelkax1nto: maybe02:11
archangelpetrocompiz?02:11
jirihavelkax1nto: but i think not02:11
x1ntohi02:11
x1ntowel02:11
x1ntoits quite stupid02:11
x1nto:p)02:11
x1ntoyoull know it02:11
Shoiabis ubuntu have support US Robotics USR5699B  56k  modem????????02:11
x1nto:p02:11
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x1ntojirihavelka:  gconf-editor02:11
SVisorShoiab: If its extern COM modem yes.02:11
x1ntoI need to go to02:11
x1ntoand then these 3 steps02:11
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x1nto-browse to apps>compiz>general>allscreens>options02:11
x1nto-double click on active_plugins in the options folder02:11
x1nto-add in each command in the following order02:11
lz05Shoiab: don't think so...i had one...it sucked. I found no linux support anywhere02:11
zpeeflz05: /etc/resolv.conf: No access02:11
jirihavelkax1nto: what with it, alt-F2, gconf-editor02:11
x1ntoactive_plugins ?02:11
x1ntoI dont know what he means with ths02:11
lz05zpeef: with sudo?02:11
rasputnikzpeef: sudo02:11
jirihavelkax1nto: its easy, its GUI02:11
x1ntoI cant dubble click on anythin02:11
zpeefThat's with sudo02:11
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Shoiabok02:11
Shoiabits mean no support for it02:11
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Shoiabthen what about zoltix smart cobra lite?????02:11
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lz05zpeef: do ls -l /etc/resolv.conf  and check permissions -rx-r--r-- 1 root dhcp...........02:12
Shoiabwhat about zoltix smart cobra lite????? is that modem have driver for ubuntu02:12
rasputniklz05: root never has to check permissions, it's not that.02:12
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stirzhello :-)02:13
lz05rasputnik: you know...some things just slip my mind lol02:13
SVisorShoiab: Google is your friend. All real modems (not Winmodem) are supported by Linux. How to know which modem is winmode or not. Cant help you there. I do not use modems, but try google for it.02:13
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zpeeflz05: "ls: no such file or directory" "bash: /etc/resolv.conf: No access".... god damn02:14
Shoiabok02:18
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jirihavelkazpeef: try: less /etc/resolv.conf02:18
x1ntojirihavelka:02:18
x1ntodidnt you see my pm ?02:18
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jirihavelkax1nto:  what?02:18
x1ntoanyway02:18
x1nto<x1nto> I did gconf-editor in term02:18
x1nto<x1nto> then I go to the options02:18
x1nto<x1nto> and on the right side02:18
x1nto<x1nto> I can add stuff02:18
x1nto<x1nto> but I dont think I need to add key's02:18
x1nto<x1nto> or am I wrong ?02:18
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zpeefjirihavelka: what is that supposed to do? Now it says "nameserver 192.168.2.1" "domain ubuntu" "(END)"02:18
jamesukHello everyone me again (with the internet problem) remember? :)02:18
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SVisorjamesuk: Does it work now?02:18
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jamesukSVisor: no, but I have discovered something that may or may not help02:18
jirihavelkazpeef: in /etc/resolv.conf is DNS02:18
lz05zpeef: I've never needed more than just the nameserver lines to get the names resolved02:18
rasputnikjamesuk: holy water!02:18
jamesukSvisor: I ran an update from the command line and it updated various things - I can now get secure (https) pages up in Firefox but not normal pages02:19
zpeefArg, I give up02:19
zpeeflz05, thanks for your help :)02:19
jirihavelkazpeef: only write nameserver ip02:19
jamesukrasputnik: I've already ruined 1 computer with that!02:19
lz05zpeef: is it working?02:19
williswatsonIs Hiweed better than Ubuntu  ?????02:19
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rasputnikjamesuk: yes, but at least its free of vampires now02:19
zpeeflz05: No doesn't work02:19
rasputnikwilliswatson: course it is , that's why we're all using ubuntu02:20
jamesukrasputnik: Yes but my laptop smells of garlic now too! :)02:20
SVisorjamesuk: Someone, somewhere have put an hex on you.02:20
x1ntoalt f2 doesnt do anythin jirihavelka02:20
x1nto:p02:20
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jamesukSVisor: Is there anyway of removing the hex? :p02:21
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williswatsonrasputnik  u are  using Hiweed   ???02:21
lz05zpeef: well...not sure what else to try...reset the router perhaps? and then maybe go back to dhcp? whatever...02:21
jamesuk[anyone] : Is there an inbuilt firewall or something in Ubuntu thats letting me see secure pages but not normal ones?02:21
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jirihavelkax1nto: ehm, in Gnome Desktop its default for run aplication, then write gconf-editor, on left navigate to your path, on right find your key, click right mouse and edit key02:22
zpeefNah... I'll be back to Ubuntu once it works for newbies like me. Untill then, I'm going back to XP02:23
SVisorjamesuk: Beats me. Ask the local voodo priest. Whats different between https and http?!?!02:23
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Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> ubuntu uses a firwall by default called iptables a good frontend to this is firestarter02:23
KoskenCould someone help me for a second, im a complete newbie. I would like to upgrade to kernel 2.6.17, how to do this? :S02:23
lz05clear02:23
Paddy_EIRE<Kosken>is it not in the repos02:23
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Thanks can I run firestarter from terminal?02:23
fredrinI've got four ip's and interfaces on my box, eth0, eth0:1 ... eth0:3, I want to use iptables to re-route port 80 on eth0:1 to port 8081. How do I do that? I've used this iptables line on another computer with only eth0. " up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8180" How do I tell iptables to use eth0:1 ?02:23
KoskenPaddy_EIRE: Don't know :(02:23
lz05dammit...i was on the wrong track of mind lol...too f-ing tired02:23
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>youi can run iptables from terminal, firestarter will be a gui sys tray based app02:23
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Thanks, where can I get firestarter - its not on any of my menus02:24
Paddy_EIRE<Kosken>do a search on the repos for it and you should be able to install with no prbs from there02:24
gnomefreak2.6.17 is not a dapper kernel you would have to build it02:24
SVisorPaddy_EIRE: Ubuntu does not set up aby rules by default.02:24
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gnomefreakPaddy_EIRE: dapper wouldnt have the 2.6.17 and never will02:24
Paddy_EIREjamesuk> sudo apt-get install firestarter02:24
Paddy_EIRE<gnomefreak>you sure02:24
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Paddy_EIRE<gnomefreak>your right oops that will be on edgy i think02:25
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: "E: Couldn't find package firestarter"02:25
gnomefreakPaddy_EIRE: very sure kernels will never be backported and edgy is using the 2.6.17 kernel02:25
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Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>??  try searching on synaptic02:25
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ubuntu321hey02:26
Koskengnomefreak whats the easiest way to get 2.6.17 on dapper?02:26
SVisorjamesuk: Anyway "sudo iptables -L" would list all rules. All chains should (and will) say "policy ACCEPT" and no additional rules.02:26
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jirihavelkaKosken: why u need 2.6.17???02:26
Paddy_EIRE<gnomefreak> whats the big deal with this kernal anyway?? whats it do that dappers current one does not02:26
gnomefreakKosken: build it02:26
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: 0 packages listed02:26
Koskenjirihavelka: bcm43xx drivers02:26
jirihavelkaKosken: it isnt easy to compile your own kernel02:27
gnomefreaknothing Paddy_EIRE02:27
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>thats a weird one thats where i got it from02:27
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Koskenjirihavelka: I can imagine :(02:27
jamesukSVisor: All say accept02:27
KoskenI actually did it once tbh :P02:27
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jakeanybody had any luck compiling the latest gnome?02:27
Koskenit was actually quite easy02:27
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jamesukPaddy_EIRE: My installation is weird - its hexed aparantely!02:27
Koskennow I installed ubuntu on my laptop, and cant remember the commands02:27
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> ill pastebin my sources.list and then you can try again if you wish02:27
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jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Ok, you might have to tell me how to change sources02:28
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>kk] 02:28
jirihavelkaHow can i cut File, edit etc. from Firefox?02:28
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> 1 sec02:28
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: No probs02:28
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jakeKosken open a terminal and hit tab twice it will spit out every possible command02:28
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jamesukI am able to look at my bank account through https but not anything through http (very weird)02:29
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ubuntu321Does any1 knw how to change your password in ubuntu?02:29
infideli have an issue someone here might be familiar with i just install a printer and i have to push the button on printer to get it to print out02:29
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jirihavelkaubuntu321: passwd nick02:29
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fatbrainerr, where do I find cli docs on how to manage my users / groups?02:30
Przemcio78hi, does anyone here use wengophone?02:30
jakeubuntu321 sudo passwd for root or system/administration/users and groups for user password02:30
merchjamesuk, that's hwo it should be. Why do you want to see sensitive info over http?02:31
ubuntu321cool02:31
ChaosFanfatbrain: man adduser, man useradd, man addgroup etc...02:31
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jamesukmerch: It will only let me see https pages - http pages won't display at all for some reason02:31
kovztchslt moi je viens d'arriver et je cherche  intgrer un group02:31
Paddy_EIREOpen a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace everthing in that file with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2291702:32
fatbrainChaosFan: Thanks02:32
ChaosFanfatbrain: np02:32
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> Open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace everthing in that file with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2291702:32
agt!fr02:32
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:32
jirihavelkaPaddy_EIRE: if you run gui aplication run gksudo !!!02:32
CromagDKanyone knows if theres a danish Ubuntu Channel somewhere ?02:32
CromagDK!dk02:32
ubotuUbuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk02:32
CromagDKah02:32
kovztchSlt paddy_EIRE je suis nouveau02:32
CromagDK:D02:32
agt:)02:32
Paddy_EIRE<jirihavelka>yeah your rigth oops02:32
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> use gksudo instead of sudo02:33
merchjamesuk, that's what I'm saying. https is secure, http is not. That's how your bank's site is setup. All transfer of secure information should take place via https.  There is no http in that case.02:33
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jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Do I just type that URL in the file?02:33
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Paddy_EIRE<kovztch> i dont speak frnech sorry02:33
Paddy_EIRE*French02:33
erUSUL!fr > kovztch02:34
erUSUL!fr02:34
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:34
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>no02:34
CromagDK!se02:34
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se02:34
kovztchHello Paddy i am new02:34
Paddy_EIREohh02:34
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> then we have a prob....can u accept dcc02:34
jamesukmerch: Thanks I know that. My problem is that my setup will allow me to see a https site but no http site such as http://www.yahoo.co.uk - it just times out for some reason. :(02:34
NetcadHi, is there somebody out there who can give me a hint on the following? I need to search a large directory structure for directories and where ever found delete all files in there.02:34
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: I think so02:35
kovztchPaddy could you help me02:35
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NetcadDirectory is .deleted for example02:35
merchjamesuk, Oh. I thought you were trying to see you banking sit via http. Sorry. :)02:35
jirihavelkaPlz somebody who know how to cut File, edit etc. from Firefox?02:35
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>be with u in a sec02:35
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agtjirihavelka, you mean cut and paste text? or remove the menu bar?02:36
x1ntojirihavelka:02:36
jirihavelkaagt: menu bar02:36
x1ntoI was looking for active plugins but the key doenst exist02:36
x1ntoI only have 1 key in it02:36
ubuntu321wat do you write to change the system/administration/users password? I've changed the root password by typing "sudo passwd"02:36
kovztchPaddy i am a central african and i don't speak english very well02:36
agtjirihavelka, try searching for the compact menu extension02:36
x1ntoand there should b allot :/02:36
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hantooubuntu321: its either root or users02:37
jamesukmerch: no probs02:37
hantooor not.02:38
daejavutesting02:38
ubuntu321hantoo: i have changed the root by going "sudo passwd" so will that change both my root and user login password??02:38
hantoothat changes root password02:39
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merchjamesuk, what browser? Firefox? Other browsers same problem?02:39
hantooto change _your_ password, login to your account and do 'passwd'02:39
ubuntu321ok02:39
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jamesukmerch: All browsers in Ubuntu02:39
daejavuQuestion : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?02:39
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>james did you accept the file02:39
ubuntu321hantoo: thank you very uch it worked cya later!02:40
daejavuQuestion : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?02:40
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: It didn't come up02:40
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Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> are you using xchat-gnome02:40
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jamesukNo I'm on Windoze MIRC02:40
slacker_nllo02:40
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daejavuQuestion : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?02:41
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> did u configure MIRC to accept dcc??02:41
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Yes it normally does02:42
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Do you want to email me the file?02:42
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> yes02:43
Paddy_EIREpm your addy to me02:43
lupine_85daejavu: I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu here02:43
lupine_85you might be able to02:43
lupine_85!bluetooth02:43
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:43
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Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk>you there....pm your email add to me02:44
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daejavulupine_85, :D02:45
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jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Just pm'ed it to you - did you get it?02:45
daejavulupine_85, do u know how can i use the Bluetooth with the ubuntu system ?02:46
erUSUL!bluetooth02:46
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:46
eneriedhello02:46
eneried:)02:46
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lupine_85"that's really useful", I thought02:46
lupine_85it isn't, though02:47
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lupine_85bluetooth--02:47
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xopherHow do I 'clean up' my system? From like unneeded packages etc.02:47
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Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> /join #jamesuk02:47
justin_xopher: sudo apt-get clean02:48
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gnomefreakxopher: deborphan or to clean cache sudo apt-get autoclean02:48
eneriedI have question. I changed my board and a lot of devices in my computer (last computer was damaged) and i want to put the ubuntu disk in the new machine. How can I upgrade the installation? Doues ubuntu automatically recognize my new hardware?02:48
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lupine_85!gtkorphan02:48
ubotugtkorphan: A graphical tool to find and remove orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-1 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 280 kB02:48
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justin_If you mean removing packages, just go to synaptic - and look at what you have installed - note the ones with the Ubuntu logo beside them.. sometimes will mess things up if you uninstall..02:48
daejavugood the info that was required .. THanks alot guyz :)02:48
xopherThanks, that I knew. But I meant like uninstall useless packages that you dont need..02:48
lupine_85eneried: as lang as you're using the default kernel and your hard drive still has the same logical address, you should be OK02:48
justin_xopher: Right click - "remove" .. "apply" in synaptic02:49
lupine_85!gtkorphan > xopher02:49
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> you must not be set up right on irc cant seem to pm u or send dcc to u02:49
xopherOne more question, is it safe to remove all -dev packages if you dont plan to compile anything?02:49
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lupine_85xopher: generally yes02:50
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justin_xopher: Pretty much, but if they have the ubuntu logo beside them -- I would let them be..02:50
Paddy_EIRECaqn some I send a file to someone here who will then send it to <jamesuk>02:50
xopherIm switching all my compiling to a chroot env.02:50
lupine_85hard to make general statements though ;)02:50
eneriedI have the same disk, the same partition, etc, my question is about the hardware, What i have to do? Doues ubuntu automatically find the new hardware?02:50
Jack_Sparrow!libdvdcss > jack_sparrow02:50
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lupine_85eneried: all the drivers are in the kernel, so it should work fine02:51
nalphaguys there is a software to print out power point slide but i want to print like 4 slide on 1 page but maximum size... of every slide... ???02:51
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Join channel #jamesuk I am on there02:51
justin_eneried: Yeah02:51
fatbrainHow can I gain access to my other users home folder? I tired chown otheruser:samegroup on homefolder but that didn't help02:51
justin_Unless you have some strange new alien hardware ;)02:51
xopherjustin_, what does the ubuntu logo stand for?02:51
lupine_85but if your HD was /dev/hda and now it's /dev/hdc, for instance, you'll have problems02:51
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justin_xopher: Deeply intergrated with the Ubuntu system02:51
xopherk, thanks02:51
Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> so am i...?02:51
nalphaguys there is a software to print out power point slide but i want to print like 4 slide on 1 page but maximum size... of every slide... ??? so not like openoffice just print 4 side but not maximum so every slide show small...02:51
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justin_Sometimes it may even remove "ubuntu-base" and that just screws everything up02:51
eneriedthen, I start ubuntu, and I'll wait until ubuntu do the rest of the work. I'm right? It sounds nice :)02:51
vdepizzolcan qt apps simulate my gtk theme?02:52
lupine_85justin_: doesn't it mean "ubuntu official package"?02:52
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: Weird - ok email me on james_kehoe@yahoo.com02:52
Paddy_EIREk02:52
justin_lupine_85: Not really, you can compile things from source - and they still show up with that logo, it means that the file is somehow tied to the core02:52
jamesukPaddy_EIRE: I have to go now but I'll be back on later02:52
eneriedWhat must I do if sopmething does not work?02:52
justin_So if you see it and "remove" make sure -- it does not add additional items like ubuntu-core for instance ;)02:52
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Paddy_EIRE<jamesuk> the email will be set in a sec02:53
Paddy_EIRElater02:53
lupine_85you mean ubuntu-base ?02:53
justin_Yeah, base --- forgive me it's early, I just woke up02:53
Jack_Sparroweneried: Explain the problem, what does not work and if it is a device, give hardware details like make, model, chipset02:53
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lupine_85removing xfsprogs will remove ubuntu-base...02:53
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lupine_85...but I don't need it02:54
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justin_Well what is ridiculous is if you are on XFCE like me for instance, Xubuntu - and you install KDEBASE - you can never uninstall it.02:54
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eneriedOk, then i start ubuntu, and wait until that point after making new questions :)02:54
lupine_85justin_: you can if you aptitude install it :)02:54
eneriedthanks a lot, boys!02:54
justin_If you wish to uninstall KDE, it will uninstall ubuntu-base --- that should be fixed later, most likely in edgy, and the icon thing which appears on even non-official packs sometimes.02:54
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justin_lupine_85: That is how I did it02:55
lupine_85aptitude install --reinstall <package>; aptitude remove --purge <package> might do the trick02:55
lupine_85oh02:55
justin_Piece by piece, if I wish to remove it - now I have to remove Ubuntu-base as well02:55
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justin_Perhaps it only applies to Xubuntu02:55
lupine_85it's a metapackage, so is unimportant surely?02:55
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lupine_85(except for dist-upgrade, anyway)02:55
Jack_SparrowMake a full backup and blast away..02:56
mikeconceptsanyone up to helping me? there is a link that plays a streaming mp3 that I don't know what program to use to play http://heliosj.iddings.us:8000/seminolescanner.m3u02:56
justin_lupine_85: No it tanks Xubuntu --- I tryed it on another machine, freezes and can't find this and that bah! :P02:56
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lupine_85very strange!02:56
enerieder...what is the comand for dissconect from a chanel?02:56
lupine_85sounds like b0rked repos to me... ;)02:56
justin_At least it is only KDE base ;) only 174 --- and I do like KPGP (whatever its real name is)02:56
Nameeaterjust the channel? /part #channelname02:57
justin_lupine_85: Yeah maybe, but keep in mind its XUbuntu and not Ubuntu either..02:57
justin_So its more of a minimalist sys02:57
lupine_85true enough02:57
eneriedthanks, Nameeater02:57
eneriedbye02:57
lupine_85but surely ubuntu-base is the same between the two?02:57
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justin_I do not complain however, I love muh xfce+ubuntu hehe02:57
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justin_lupine_85: Yup, it seems to handle packages differently though02:58
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justin_Others have said the same thing, who use Xubuntu02:58
Neo8750xubuntu is ubuntu at heart =)02:58
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toxic_Are java jar files in executable in linux ?02:58
lupine_85ubuntu-base + xubuntu-desktop02:58
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justin_Neo8750: Well of course ;) I would not have it any other way heh02:58
justin_toxic_: Yes02:59
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toxic_justin_; thanks02:59
justin_toxic_: As long as you have Java installed that is ;)02:59
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lupine_85hmm. I can't see any kde dependencies...02:59
lupine_85...wonder what causes it02:59
toxic_justin_: naturally :)02:59
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justin_lupine_85: Not sure but I have sent the emails to the Xubuntu people - so we'll see what happens.02:59
mikeconceptsprogram for mp3 streaming?03:00
justin_mikeconcepts: You want to stream, or recieve them?03:00
justin_listen to them* recieve...03:00
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mikeconceptsjustin_:receive03:00
justin_If you want to send, Icecast03:00
Paddy_EIREis there no python channel??03:00
justin_If you want to recieve and listen03:00
justin_Xmms03:00
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justin_Paddy, Yes there is but you need to register your nick I believe03:00
Paddy_EIREI found this tutorial on google anyone think its any good http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Pqpt65tJ5VEJ:honors.montana.edu/~jjc/easytut/easytut.pdf+Non-Programmers+Tutorial+For+Python+filetype:pdf&hl=en&gl=ie&ct=clnk&cd=103:01
Neo8750what init scrip loads tty1 etc.. ??03:01
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Neo8750because i seem to have lost my actual console03:01
rasputnikNeo8750: /etc/inittab03:01
mikeconceptsjustin_:specifically at this site which is a local police and fire scanner http://heliosj.iddings.us:8000/seminolescanner.m3u03:01
lupine_85Neo8750: it's all in /etc/inittab. run bt /sbin/init03:01
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justin_Neo8750: Really?, How did you manage that?03:01
justin_:))03:01
justin_mikeconcepts: Xmms, you need to set your browsers to MIME type *.pls *.m3u - and associate XMMS with them - and your off.03:02
Neo8750justin_: i'm runing edgy and after last night i updated and i can't recall the package but it killed my tty1-6 and not gotten them back since hehe03:02
Paddy_EIRE<justin_> where do i register my nick03:02
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justin_Neo8750: Ahh your the explorer ;P03:02
Paddy_EIRE!register03:03
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:03
mikeconceptsjustin_:thanks, I'll wrap my brain around that for a while03:03
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justin_Paddy_EIRE: You need to msg NICKSERV and issue some commands, I forget what they are ---- /MSG NICKSERV HELP03:03
justin_mikeconcepts: It's simple :P same way as windows03:03
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justin_Or so im told.. :P03:03
Paddy_EIRE<justin_> is there no website where i can do this03:03
justin_Paddy_EIRE: Nope not to my knowledge03:04
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xopherlupine_85, thank you for the gtkorpan tip, really helps 03:05
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Neo8750hmmm03:05
lupine_85:)03:05
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justin_Does anyone have a Radeon card?03:06
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Neo8750well there in the file only thing i could see as being wrong is it was set defualt run level was 2 and should be 5 right?  or am i just remebering differnt distro?03:06
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W_McLjustin_: yes, why?03:06
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justin_Has anyone tryed playing with the "radeon" driver options, such as "AccelMethod" "EXA" "EnablePageFlip" "1" <---? Have they been able to measure any true performance increase?03:06
xopherlupine_85, just hope I dont get too excited removing things :D sooner or later Ill be using only the terminal from a gentoo chroot :P03:06
Paddy_EIRE<justin_> do i enter the commands from in here03:06
mcphailNeo8750: runlevel 2-5 are the same thing03:06
lupine_85lol03:06
lupine_85portage++03:06
justin_Paddy_EIRE: No from the server window03:07
Paddy_EIREik03:07
W_McLjustin_: didn't try it, sorry03:07
lupine_85default runlevel for ubuntu is 203:07
Neo8750mcphail: hmm well it doesn't make sense why i have no console then03:07
justin_W_McL: It's ok03:07
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justin_Neo8750: Evolution man03:07
justin_:)03:07
lupine_85Evolution--03:07
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Neo8750i don't want to evolv i like mt cli03:08
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NetcadIs there something like a rmdir -R?03:08
justin_hehe03:08
mcphailNetcad: rm -rf03:08
lupine_85Netcad: rm -rf03:08
Neo8750Netcad: rm -rf03:08
lupine_85snap03:08
lupine_85crackle03:08
justin_pop03:08
Neo8750pop?03:08
justin_:D03:08
lupine_85no pop03:08
justin_Bang03:08
justin_?03:08
lupine_85only a snap and a crackle03:08
justin_Indeed, Ubuntu does not need any stinking pop.03:09
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justin_Another Justin???03:09
justin_Interesting03:09
justin_:D03:09
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Neo8750ooo i just discovered03:10
Neo8750my consoles aren't missing i just can't see any text on them03:10
Neo8750because i tried loging in and makeing dir and it worked03:10
justin_You must feel silly03:10
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Neo8750not really i mean it had a blinking cusour and all03:11
Paddy_EIRE<justin_>nice one all registered03:11
Paddy_EIRE:)03:11
holzmodemim try to use IrDA, log tell me irda is successfull identified, and started, but i didnt receive any packet from irdadump.... one entry in the log saith >>  could not open /var/run/irattach.pid: Permission denied03:11
vdepizzolHow can I install my Saa7133 capture device?03:12
justin_Paddy ;D03:12
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Kosken:S why does it say that /usr/src/linux doesnt exsist when I can even see it when going to /ust/src and doing dir?03:13
Koskenusr03:13
Kosken*03:13
slacker_nlKosken: permission issues I guess03:13
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Koskenwell, it should say permission denied?03:14
slacker_nlok, good point :)03:14
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Neo8750sounds like a good old splash problem03:14
holzmodemKosken, why i installed an configure it with sudo03:15
Dr_Williswould someone check and see if their  gnome-art  program is working at this time? getting an error.. and i think its due to the gnome art web site being down03:15
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Koskentrying to compile kernel 2.6.1703:15
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Koskenthough that would be quite hard if I cant get into linux dir :P03:15
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xopherWhats a good textbased app with which you can monitor bandwidth with, expect iftop?03:16
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rasputnikKosken: it's probably a broken symlink03:16
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Koskenrasputnik I think I found the problem actually :P03:18
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Neo8750got console back03:19
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tourachxopher: iptraf03:19
xophertourach, thanks Ill give it a look03:19
maliceWhat is the best program to use with a ipod. I want to add files and also get podcast. Gtk pod is nice but I can not figure out how to add pod casts to it03:19
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lupine_85!best03:20
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.03:20
Koskenbah03:21
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Koskenwhat was command to get build-essential package?03:21
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rasputnikKosken: apt-get install ?03:21
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Koskenrasputnik: yeh but claims to be missing :O03:22
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rasputnikKosken: weird -  it's in the main repo03:23
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Koskenrasputnik: well it said, "package build-essential isnot available, but is reffered to by another package03:24
oemhi all...i need help regarding including my floppy disk drive in the fstab file..i didn't find it there and it's not getting detected either...kindly help03:24
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Defunkhi im new 2 linux, how do i run ".run" files from the terminal? (i tried "sudo ./applocation/appname.run")03:25
hantoomonitor goin off in certain time, how do i turn that off?03:25
rasputnikDefunk: where did you get it from?03:25
Defunkget what?03:25
Defunkthe file?03:25
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Dr_Willisoem,  you could always mount it manually03:26
rasputnikDefunk: yes03:26
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Defunkit's a driver for my ATi gfx card03:26
Defunkgot it from the ATi main webbie03:26
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oemhow can i make my drives automount??03:26
rasputnikDefunk: doesn't it come with instructions?03:26
mcphailDefunk: you will need to make it executable03:26
mcphailDefunk: chmod +x file.run03:26
Defunkoh :)03:26
Dr_Willisoem,  automounting a floppy disk can be a pain.03:26
Defunkok03:27
Defunksec03:27
oemthanx03:27
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Defunknow what?03:27
mcphailDefunk: execute it, as you were doing above03:28
rasputnikDefunk: now you can run it03:28
Defunkthx a lot guys! :D03:28
Dr_Willisoem,  hmm - its showing up under Places/Computer/Floppy for me.. and i dont have an entry in the fstab for the floppy.03:28
Defunkjust out of curiousity - why did i need 2 run the 1st cmd on it?03:28
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mcphailDefunk: google for "unix permissions"03:29
Defunkkk03:29
oemowe...can it be fixed?03:29
mcphailDefunk: it's a security thing03:29
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Defunkye figured it out :P03:29
Defunkthx anyway for the help m803:30
mcphailnp03:30
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rasputnikoem: have you got a line like this in /etc/fstab?03:30
rasputnik/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       003:30
oemthere's no entry in the fstab file03:31
rasputnikoem: well put it in then :)03:31
oemi've checked my fdisk connection also03:31
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oemthanx ...do i've to mount it every time i boot? how can i make it automount?03:32
kozmiclupine_85: I did a cp -a, worked perfectly. running on my ny hdd now :)03:32
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rasputnikoem: you'd have to google - noone i know uses flopies anymore03:33
oem;) thanx03:33
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gomekHow do I get a .deb package from the repo into my home directory?03:34
Dr_Willisoem,  i dident need an entry in the fstab.. it showed up under places/computer/Floppy disk03:34
mcphailgomek: why do you want to do that?03:34
Dr_Willisoem,  i then right click on it to 'mount' the drive. if you make a fstab entry - then that will override the default gnome mounting system03:34
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billytwowillywhat's the command to use instead of make install if I want to make a deb instead?03:35
mcphailgomek: if you just want to install the file, use synaptic or apt-get03:35
mcphailbillytwowilly: install checkinstall03:35
gomekmcphail I don't want to install it.  I want to tear it apart.03:35
billytwowillythanks mcphail I can never remember that;)03:35
mcphailgomek: then just browse the repo with a web browser03:35
gomekmcphail sounds good03:36
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mcphailgomek: of course, if you install it there should be a local copy in the cache03:36
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gomekmcphail nah, it's not installed03:36
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Jack_Sparrow!dpkg03:37
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.03:37
Defunkanother question guys: ive installed the ATi driver and in the end of the installation it notes that "it is important 2 save ur X WIndow config file, and then write aticonfig....03:38
Defunk"03:38
rasputnikgomek: man apt-get - you want the 'apt-get source' command03:38
Defunkhow do i save my X Window config file?03:38
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rasputnikDefunk: understood - but if the 'magic' gnome stuff is b0rked he doesn't have  a lot of options03:38
paul___how can I add items to my CLASSPATH?03:38
martin__hi everyone. I need serious help, my xserver went the way of the pear this morning and I keep seeing the error "unable to load plugin: gconf", so I have reformatted and reinstalled ubuntu because no one would help me but the problem is still here, a little help?03:38
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rasputnikDefunk: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /some/where/else03:39
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Defunkrasputnik: what uve just said doesn't tell me anything ^^03:39
sproingiepaul___: don't set CLASSPATH globally, use -cp when invoking java03:39
Defunkoh ok03:39
jayteeukDefunk: Your X config file is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf so... yeah, what rasputnik just said. :D03:39
Defunk=P03:39
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sproingieThe Way of The Pear.  i wonder if that's a comment on PHP :p03:40
paul___sproingie: I need to add items to classpath cuz I need to use a dependency for one of the programs i need to run...03:40
paul___sproingie: maybe that doesnt make sense?03:40
Defunkrasputnik:  im getting a "permission denied" error03:41
sproingiepaul___: then do java -cp /path/to/classes:/another/path:/and/so/on03:41
rasputnikpaul___: that's fine, you're using the java command to start an app anyway, just add a '-cp' flag03:41
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gomekmcphail thanks for the help!  ^^03:41
sproingiepaul___: setting classpath globally will cause you much suffering later03:41
paul___sproingie: is that permanent or temporary?03:41
gomekrasputnik it's not really the sources I want, but thanks anyway03:41
sproingiepaul___: it's for that one time you run it03:41
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paul___sproingie: are those colons or semicolons?03:42
rasputnikDefunk: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup03:42
sproingiepaul___: colons03:42
sproingiepaul___: you'd use semicolons on windows03:42
paul___sproingie: kk thanks I'll try that03:42
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rasputnikgomek: then use the '-d' flag (download only)03:43
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kranganyone got a recommendation for a good program to extract an ISO file?03:43
sproingiemount03:44
rasputnikkrang: what, to create one, or to read it?03:44
mjrkrang, sudo mount -oloop -tiso9660 file.iso /where/to03:44
krangrasputnik: to extract the file to a directory03:44
sproingiemount it then copy it03:44
mjrthen just copy stuff out if you want it out03:44
krangmjr: ooh, methinks that'll do the trick. Thanks!03:44
mjrsudo umount /where/to when you're done03:44
sproingiegnome should have iso automounting built in03:45
Defunkok thx again rasputnik :P03:45
sproingiedunno if it does, but it sure should03:45
mjrsproingie, it would be nice if it'd be make easy, yes03:45
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sproingiecould use fuse to not even need root03:45
sproingieheck all filesystems should use fuse.  userspace is faster03:46
sproingiecan't really use threads in kernel mode03:46
mjrwell you can03:46
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sproingieyeah with much agony03:46
mjrbut I am a proponent of userspace filesystems (and microkernels ;)03:46
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mjrand yes, fuse for mounting image files would seem to me a good solution, but is there fuse iso support yet?03:46
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sproingiekernel allocator is also primitive, userspace malloc is much faster03:46
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sproingietho for filesystems with fixed blocks i dont suppose it matters03:47
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krangmjr, rasputnik: if you mount an ISO file, can you add a couple of files and unmount it, then burn it?03:47
mjrkrang, no, you can't03:48
sproingieyou dont need to mount an iso file to burn it03:48
krangmjr: curses03:48
sproingiewith recent kernels you can burn with dd03:48
rasputnikkrang: sadly not - would be nice, wouldn't it?03:48
krangsproingie: I know, I want to edit it then re-burn. No big deal, 5 minutes lost.03:48
mjrISO is pretty much a write-once filesystem03:48
krangrasputnik: I know :-(03:48
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sethkkrang, you have to extract to a normal file system, add the files, and create a new iso03:49
mjr(multisessions aside, but those need to be just that, multisession)03:49
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sproingiekrang: iso mount is not writable, it packs the files with pretty much no room.  you'll want to just burn a data cd with mkisofs or some gui thing like gnomebaker or k3b03:49
Neo8750so that the new name begins with a 'K' and a two-digit number, where the03:49
Neo8750number is the difference between the two-digit number following the 'S'03:49
sproingiepersonally i can't recommend k3b enough03:49
Neo8750in its current name, and 100.03:49
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Neo8750say its S2503:50
Neo8750whats the new one? K75 ?03:50
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krangsproingie: mkisofs is fine by me. none of this namby-pamby button clicking :-)03:50
infidelanyone know where i an get the lotus notes zip file?03:50
sproingiekrang: eh, i like brainless tasks like burning to have brainless interfaces03:50
wgatoanyone suggest a program that i can run from the commond line to convert a mp3 from 1 bitrate to another?03:51
kishorecan i hav xgl... in xubuntu03:51
krangsproingie: lol, fair point.03:51
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gnomefreakkishore: yes please join #ubuntu-xgl03:51
kishoregnomefreak, jus.. joined03:51
gnomefreaki saw03:52
Jack_Sparrowkrang: http://www.livedistro.org/taxonomy/term/376?PHPSESSID=fcca24dbaf9c3e986ec2c0e2a6bcc9e1  script to remaster a live cd03:52
Jack_Sparrowkrang: The author is a user here and I halped with the original beta testing, rough edges but it gets the job done03:53
krangJack_Sparrow: Sweet! Thanks dude!03:53
Jack_Sparrownp03:53
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gan|y|medhello03:54
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gan|y|medany gimp gurus here (have tried #gimp)?03:54
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gan|y|medcan anybody help me with step 4 of http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/justin1/03:55
vdepizzolmy SAA7133 tv turner is not working. What I do?03:55
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tRSShow can I download a folder (and all its contents) from a remote ftp site from bash, such that it is resumble as well (like what wget does)?03:56
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mcphailtRSS: use wget?03:57
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tRSShow to?03:57
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mcphailtRSS: i'm maybe not understanding your question, but wget is quite capable of downloading from ftp03:58
tRSShow do add login credentials to wget?03:58
jay_What is Unix and linux, and their relationship?03:58
kozmictRSS: have you seen at wget --help ?03:59
mcphailtRSS: that is clearly documented in the man page03:59
tRSSalright let me03:59
erUSULjay_: linux is unix-like OS. You can not call linux a UNix becouse Unix is a TM of opengroup or someone else03:59
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mcphailtRSS: i hate saying "RTFM", but it would have saved you some time on this occasion04:00
sproingie actually linux passed unix certification some years ago04:00
mjrjay_, yeah, what erUSUL said. For the bulk of any practical purposes, GNU/Linux is an Unix OS though.04:01
sproingieit never applied for SUS tho.  i don't know if anyone ever has04:01
tRSSmcphail: i was just kiddin' man. just felt being shouted at again, i.e. RTFM!!! lol, that was good04:01
mcphailtRSS: :)04:01
erUSULsproingie: yes a version of linux (a Caldera now SCO) pased the cert but linux changes so fast that it does not make sense to cert it04:01
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oscar8xhi04:02
sproingielinux is the standard commercial OS's are targeting at API and ABI level anyway04:02
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sproingieerUSUL: i remember linux booting with some line about POSIX certification.  i think it was suse actually04:03
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LookTJPOSIX?04:03
sproingie!posix04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about posix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
sproingieubotu: you suck04:03
LookTJi havent heard that sine editing the registry in xp04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you suck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
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LookTJsince*04:04
LookTJ!POSIX04:04
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about POSIX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
LookTJstupid bot04:04
sproingieposix was the standard for unix system level interface04:04
sproingiethe term was coined by none other than RMS04:05
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sproingienow it's called Single Unix Specification04:05
erUSULsproingie: yes lionux is posix but so is windows too (the minimum posix necesary to comply with USA federal regulations)04:05
nosseI'm trying to install screem, but I have no idea how it should happen04:05
fyrestrtrnosse: sudo apt-get install screem04:05
erUSULnosse: sudo apt-get install screen04:05
sproingieerUSUL: they dropped the posix subsystem, replaced it with SFU04:06
nossetryed that, it didn't work04:06
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erUSUL!repos > nosse04:06
erUSUL!repos04:06
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:06
MetaMorfoziS!cvscedega04:06
fyrestrtrnosse: enable multiverse and universe repositories, and then try again.04:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cvscedega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
MetaMorfoziS!cedega04:06
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega04:06
sproingieerUSUL: posix was actually a subsystem that was theoretically on equal footing with win32, not implemented on top of it.  in reality it was always junk04:06
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sproingieer nt's posix that is04:06
jay_How can i design Graphic User Interface programs under Linux? Just like windows' MFC, what kind of tools I can use?04:07
sproingiepretty sure the whole "subsytem" architecture is gone from vista04:07
fyrestrtrjay_: gtk or qt04:07
fyrestrtrjay_: and, java of course.04:07
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FarrierQuestion: So I tried to upgrade breezy to dapper, now it won't boot ("Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2)"). I don't have any boot disks, just the install CD for breezy. Any idea how I should go about fixing it?04:08
sproingiegtk, qt, wxwidgets, java.  personally i recommend the last two04:08
sproingienetbeans makes java guis that are actually purty04:08
nosseerUSUL: that !repos > nosse worked fine, ubotu openes a private window04:08
fyrestrtr!grub > Farrier04:08
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erUSULjay_: first choose your widget lib gtk (gnome) qt (kde) or wxwidgets...  then the language you want to use c c++ python....04:08
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sproingiei would choose the language then see what toolkit is least painful for that language04:09
erUSULnosse: good screen is in universe afaik04:09
FarrierThanks, fyrestrtr :)04:09
Nebbhi there - I was wondering if it's possible to use an ipod as a hard drive on which to install ubuntu (6.06 LTS) - the catch is my BIOS doesn't support booting from USB...04:09
erUSUL!info screen04:09
ubotuscreen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB04:09
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sproingiechoosing a language is a great source of analysis paralysis tho04:09
fyrestrtrNebb: no, you can't do that, even if it did boot from usb.04:10
Nebbwhy not?04:10
erUSULnosse: screen is in main you should have been able to install it without enabling universe nor multiverse04:10
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fyrestrtrNebb: because, ipod's don't work like that.04:10
sproingiepeople have used ipods as external hdd's04:10
fyrestrtrsproingie: that's not what I meant.04:11
sproingiewhich seems like a mighty expensive way to have an external HDD04:11
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Nebbit's all I have ATM.04:11
seshomaruhello , hoe do i extract a tar.gz file thru the terminsl?04:11
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fyrestrtrseshomaru: tar xvzf filename.tar.gz04:11
sproingieit's non-trivial and like fyrestrtr said, you probably cant boot from it anyway04:11
erUSULseshomaru: tar xvzf file.tgz04:12
Nebbbugger.04:12
seshomarufyrestrt1, erUSUL  how do I direct the output to /var/lib/tftpboot?04:13
seshomarui mean i want6 to extract it to that dir04:13
fyrestrtrseshomaru: cd /var/lib/tftpboot first04:13
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erUSULseshomaru: tar xvzf file.tgz -C /path/to/dir (iirc check the man page)04:13
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nosseerUSUL: I'm speaking of screem, not screen04:14
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fyrestrtrnosse: I told you already, enable multiverse and universe, then install it from synaptic or by using apt-getl04:14
erUSULnosse: dohh :(04:14
erUSUL!info screem04:14
ubotuscreem: A GNOME website development environment. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2051 kB, installed size 7672 kB04:14
seshomarufyrestrt1, , erUSUL  thank you... (will check man page...)04:14
nossefyrestrtr: Im just reading those links04:14
erUSULnosse: it is main too... can you post the error you are getting to a pastebin??04:15
fyrestrtrnosse: are you on dapper or something else?04:15
nossedapper04:15
nosseand using gnome04:15
nosseand I loaded some package from sourceforge04:16
sproingiehow's edgy these days ... stable enough for everyday?04:16
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fyrestrtrnosse: then just type 'sudo apt-get install screem' at the terminal.04:16
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gubluntuhow do i connect to another system over serial.. its all plugged in on com1?04:17
erUSUL!edgy04:17
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:17
Jack_Sparrow!schedule04:17
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:17
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nosseok, now its working, I first tryed "sudo apt-get install screem-0.16.1", and it didn't find it04:18
erUSULgubluntu: how do you want to connect SLIP or serial terminal?04:18
fyrestrtrsproingie: no, not for everyday use.04:18
nossethanks :)04:18
gubluntu!slip04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
gubluntu!SLIP04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about SLIP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
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gubluntuserial terminal?04:18
selinuxiumnosse: type apt-cache search screem     and see what comes out. then uese that to install04:19
erUSULgubluntu: use minicom or screen and a null modem cable04:19
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erUSULgubluntu: you have to enable serial login in the system you are connecting to04:19
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selinuxiumnosse: it will probably be    sudo apt-get install screem    to install it.04:19
erUSULgubluntu: i do not remember all the details please search google for a how to04:20
james296How can I uninstall DC++ that was in Automatix? I cant seem to uninstall it for some reason04:20
gubluntuits enabled04:20
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fyrestrtrjames296: #automatix is where you want to ask that.04:20
Jack_Sparrowjames296: Might be a good question for #Automatix04:20
james296ok thank you04:20
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selinuxium!automatix > selinuxium04:21
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fyrestrtrselinuxium: /msg ubotu automatix ;)04:22
Jack_Sparrowselinuxium: We were not trying to be rude to him.  But it gets tiring fixing systems that #Automatix had messed up. Which is why it is NOT recommended04:22
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Jack_Sparrowfyrestrtr: Thanks.. I had not thought to do it that way..04:23
xopherhow long does it on avg. take to create a pbuilder env. ?04:23
james296well theres like no one responding in that room and hardly anyone in it...04:23
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guillem101hmm, compiz does not find gconf plugin anymore with the new update... any clues?04:24
sproingiethe automatix guy should just start his own distro04:24
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james296LOL04:24
james296it does improve Ubuntu dramatically though04:24
sproingieso does doing it right04:25
james296what?04:25
Jack_Sparrowjames296: And it works 95% of the time.. sounds good until you figure 1 in 20 do wrong04:25
bXican somebody here recommend a way to print 1 (huge) image accross multiple pages04:25
kozmici do it manually, ive had too many weird things happen with automatix04:25
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selinuxiumfyrestrt: Jack_Sparrow: i can assure you that !automatix > selinuxium works to send a private message to me detailing what the bot has to say! :) I wasn't being funny!04:25
gubluntu!automatix > gubluntu04:25
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fyrestrtrguillem101: great question for #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl :)04:25
fyrestrtrbXi: file > print in gimp?04:25
kozmic!automatix > kozmic04:25
james296this really annoys me...04:26
Jack_Sparrowselinuxium: I agree but fyrestrtr's way means no one even needs to see !Whatever > You04:26
james296I cant find DC++ ANYWHERE in Synaptic...04:26
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MetaMorfoziSwhat does this mean? :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22927 i'm isntalled call of duty with loki installers...04:26
gubluntuguillem101, 'compiz-start' in terminal to start, 'csm' to configure04:27
selinuxiumJack_Sparrow: ok, I see that. It was the way I used to do it anyway! But I suppose that way other helpers can see what has been sent to other people. I wont use it for myself...04:28
Jack_Sparrownp I do it for others as well...  I learned alot watching how the bot responds04:28
bXifyrestrtr: somehow i dont even have a print command :/04:29
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fyrestrtrbXi: installed a printer?04:30
nosseselinuxium: It allredy worked04:31
bXiyeah04:31
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erUSULbXi: my best bet is to try with gimp....04:31
selinuxiumnosse: cool! :)04:31
nossewould someone like to recommend some other html editor?04:32
bXierUSUL: and guess where i dont have a print command :p04:32
bXinosse: what do you use?04:32
gubluntu!nvu04:32
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB04:33
sproingienvu is okay if you can deal with the horrible bugs04:33
nossewell, mostly I have used pico, but I have tested notepad++ for windows and it seemed really nice04:33
bXifor kde you have quanta\04:33
bXiwhich is nice04:33
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sproingieactually come to think of it, nvu's not okay, i switched back to emacs04:34
fyrestrtrnosse: scite, screem, gvim, quanta, mozilla composer, nvu.04:34
nossethanks04:34
sproingieworked ok for quickly slapping something together that i fixed with emacs tho04:34
erUSULbXi: have you instaled all the gimp-print stuff?04:34
fyrestrtroh, and cream too04:34
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LookTJanyone help with video card?04:35
LookTJit's a ATI Mobility Radeon 900004:35
erUSULbXi: 'sudo apt-get install gimp-print'04:35
bXii'll try that04:35
LookTJi  need to install my ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 video card04:35
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sproingiestill hard to beat dreamweaver.  i wish adobe put out a "lite" version for, say $100 or so04:36
erUSULLookTJ: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose the radeon or ati driver04:36
LookTJk ill try04:36
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Jack_SparrowPeople, I wold like to stress the importance of backups no matter what system you run.  Especially before making big changes... One line in CLI will save you lots of time and frustration04:36
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fyrestrtr!ati > LookTJ04:37
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Jack_Sparrow!Patience > LookTJ04:37
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bXihmmm04:37
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bXii dont see special settings in gimp print which might help me04:37
LookTJjack_sparrow: you didnt need to do that04:38
nosseI have tryed emacs, but it doesn't zoom, it colors the code but even gedit colors it better. with notepad++ you can hide parts of code and that is somethig I haven't seen any other program would do04:38
bXinosse: try quanta04:38
bXiit highlights and allows you to hide bits04:38
aurelienmhi, I'm looking for the official ubuntu-ppc channel. Where is it ? Thanks04:39
sproingieany scintilla-based editor will do folding04:39
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LookTJbrb04:40
Jack_SparrowbXi: You could crop it up into howver many pieces or pages...04:40
LookTJrebooting04:40
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bXiJack_Sparrow: i was hoping there was a solution for this04:41
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abricenoHi, anyone can tell me how do i do to install flash plugin in firefox in ubuntu? when i enter in a page that has flash, firefox shows me an option to install plugins, but when i clic on it, the buttons doesn't show up well.. any ideas?04:41
Jack_SparrowbXi: I have seen it in windows but not in Linux.. Though there is probably one out there.04:41
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fyrestrtr!flash > abriceno04:42
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knox_abriceno, download from flash homepage04:42
mbvois it possable to mount an ntfs hdd in ubuntu?  if so how do i do it?04:42
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knox_When my firefox asked for it, I just followed the link it gave me, downloaded the file, extracted it and followed the instructions.04:43
Jack_Sparrow!ntfs > mbvo04:43
gubluntu!ntfs > gubluntu04:43
Neo8750does it message you it?04:43
erUSULgubluntu: better do /msg ubotu ntfs and ask the bot in the pm window04:44
Neo8750!ipod > Neo875004:44
Neo8750fancy that04:44
Linuturk_code!pda > Linuturk_code04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
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A-L-P-H-AIs there a way to upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.6?  I found where it is /usb/lib/firefox... but there's symbolic links, which I don't how or if I should maintain them.04:45
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albiiiiiiiihi everybody!!!!!04:45
Paddy_EIREhi04:45
albiiiiiiiihi paddy04:45
Paddy_EIRE<albiiiiiiii> whats up?04:46
albiiiiiiiicould you help me please???04:46
Jack_Sparrow874 People say hello04:46
nossebXi: i'll try that then04:46
Linuturk_code874 people get banned too ;p04:46
knox_A-L-P-H-A, you can probably download it from mozillas homepage. I havent done it thou, I am using 1.5.0.5.04:46
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Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> little question you may or may not know the answer to, how can i make shift+3 be a pound sign?04:47
Paddy_EIREmanually04:48
Jack_SparrowNo idea.. It is on the US keyboard04:48
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dendehi everybody04:48
A-L-P-H-Aknox_, I've downloaded it... I have it extracted, but I just wanted to replace my old one.  I guess I could just wait till ubuntu's repositories get updated.04:48
Jack_SparrowOr else I dont understand your question04:48
dendei'm trying to use glade04:48
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Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow>it is on the uk one too, but i have recently eliminated the error upon logging in related to it and i would like to manually add this now....is it possible04:49
Paddy_EIREi will be more specific 1 sec04:49
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dendebut i always get this error: Error running glade-- to generate the C++ source code.04:49
dendeCheck that you have glade-- installed and that it is in your PATH.04:49
dendeThen try running 'glade-- <project_file.glade>' in a terminal.04:49
Jack_Sparrowyou probably know more about it than I do at this point.. There must be an ascii table somewhere04:49
andy17nullHey, I'm new to Ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to make my screen change to 1280x768? It doesn't show up in the "Screen Resolution" dialogue box.04:50
andy17nullIt only has 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480 listed04:50
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> what exactly is ascii anyway04:50
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Paddy_EIRE!ascii04:50
ubotuascii: interactive ASCII name and synonym chart. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB04:51
gubluntuHow do i initiate a terminal connection over COM1 from terminal?04:51
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albiiiiiiiiandy17null: try with dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg04:51
knox_A-L-P-H-A, ok. Sorry I dont know how, but search the forum, maybe theres a guide there?04:51
fyrestrtr!fixres > andy17null04:51
knox_I dont think it reach the ubuntu repos, not until next release, or am I wrong here?04:52
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andy17nullI'm totally new to linux - do I simply type !fixres in a terminal window?04:52
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k31thwill dell all dir starting in 06 right04:52
k31thrm -rf 06*04:53
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> this is basically it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/171904:53
andy17nullah I found the link, thanks fyrestrtr04:53
albiiiiiiiiandy17null: yep, type it in a terminal04:53
albiiiiiiiithen follow the instruction!04:53
Darkprinceis there a way to play games in wine or another program like cedega that i don't have to pay for?04:53
fyrestrtrDarkprince: wine is free04:53
knox_Darkprince, wine is free04:53
knox_:)04:53
Darkprincefyrestrtr, but does it play games?04:53
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albiiiiiiiiin the first part of the reconfiguration you have to choose your video card driver...choose it right!! :-D04:54
Darkprincefyrestrtr, i thought wine was a 2D windows emulator04:54
gubluntudarkprince, you play the games04:54
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Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> where do i put this --> xmodmap -e keycode 12 = 3 sterling04:54
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knox_Darkprince, it play games.04:54
npsterI need to convert mp3 or ogg file to wav file but to be lowest quality. Can someone help?04:55
fyrestrtrDarkprince: first, its not an emulator. Its a compatibility later for Windows. Second its not '2D' or anything.04:55
albiiiiiiiiwhy the "make menuconfig" return to me something like "scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:141: error: LINES undeclared (first use in this function)" and more others lines as that??04:56
fyrestrtrDarkprince: go to http://appdb.winehq.org and see if the game you are after is supported or not.04:56
fyrestrtr!kernel > albiiiiiiii04:56
npster!kernel04:56
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:56
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Jack_Sparrowpaddy I would say in a term04:56
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Darkprincefyrestrtr, thanks04:57
npsterCan someone help with converting oggs to swav files ?04:57
kingdongdoes anyone know if there is a way to disable nonessential logging in ubuntu? my hard drive is very loud and it's annoying04:57
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> sorry to torture you but if you type xmodmap in a terminal could you help maybe walk me through how to map that shift+3 = sterling pound sign04:57
james296 how do I reset my xorg.conf?04:57
mathieunpster: what to you define as 'lowest' quality?04:57
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fyrestrtrjames296: sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:57
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npstermathieu: I mean really low, so I can use it with my cell04:57
albiiiiiiiijames296: crtl+alt+bkspace04:58
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: first, make sure you are using the correct keyboard mapping. If you have a UK keyboard, try xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.uk"04:58
shawnr_Anyone sell on ebay in here that know of a sellers tool for linux? or a way to get turbo lister 1 or 2 to work under wine ?04:58
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Did you try pasting that line into a term?04:58
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knox_npster, maybe try grip? http://nostatic.org/grip/04:58
james296it doesnt find it04:58
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> yeah it doesnt know what the rest is after xmodmap04:59
james296you must have typed something wrong in it...04:59
gubluntuphadthai, in terminal, typing "kill -HUP1" will start a terminal connection over com1?04:59
gubluntuer04:59
gubluntuwrong channel04:59
fyrestrtrgubluntu: no, that'll give you an error message :P04:59
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Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr>xmodmap:  unknown command on line commandline:104:59
Jack_Sparrowpaddy xmodmap -pk04:59
mathieunpster: afaik, you can't choose quality with wav's04:59
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Jack_Sparrowpaddy xmodmap -h   for helpful info05:00
npstermathieu: In windows you can05:00
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> cheers this looks promising05:00
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: 12 is what you want to change05:00
gubluntufyrestrtr, how so? (besides the typo space05:01
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james296now HOW do I reset my xorg.conf?05:01
Darkprincefyrestrtr, do you use wine to run games?05:01
mathieunpster: if you want to create the correct answer: 'touch bleh.wav'.... but i guess you want better quality than that05:01
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow>know that i dont understand why 12 ??05:01
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fyrestrtrDarkprince: I did a while back :)05:01
mathieus/create/have/05:01
Darkprincefyrestrtr, what do you use now?05:01
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE:  Got an hour.. I will explain it05:01
mathieunpster: but that's probably not what you want to hear05:01
shawnr_anyone? i have to make hundreds of listings in my store, doing it by hand isn't going to cut it05:01
james296???05:02
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> ascii numbers05:02
fyrestrtrDarkprince: I stopped playing Windows games, and I only play native linux games.05:02
Darkprincefyrestrtr, why's that?05:02
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> i have an ascii calc05:02
eaglescoutI need some help.  whenever I log on to Ubuntu, my internet goes down for my Windows, and Ubuntu doesn't connect.  Is there a reason why?05:02
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: here is my .... 12         0x0033 (3)      0x0023 (numbersign)05:02
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fyrestrtrDarkprince: because I got bored of them :)05:02
Darkprincefyrestrtr, and what games are native to linux?05:02
Paddy_EIREhere is mine keycode  12 = 305:02
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Paddy_EIREnoe sterling next to it05:03
npstermathieu: for my phone I need 1s to be 14.80 KB05:03
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Paddy_EIRE*no05:03
fyrestrtrDarkprince: x-plane (http://www.x-plane.com) is the only one I bother with.05:03
padanI am trying to get this digital camera I picked up working with ubuntu (dapper), its a digital concepts, although I am unable to find the actual model number anywhere.  It shows up as : [17514554.940000]  drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. ApexDigital Digitrex 2110 spca53305:03
Darkprincefyrestrtr, essentially i am pretty new to linux and i want to be able to play games without booting windows so i can get used to using linux05:03
james296how can I reset xorg.conf?05:03
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Lets take this pm.. ok05:03
Paddy_EIREk05:04
padandoes anyone know what I could use to mount the camera, or some app to pull down the data on it?05:04
fyrestrtrDarkprince: there are a lot of games for linux though, one of the better ones is Coldwar05:04
Mr0bviousWho here knows about VNC? I want to change the WM that is used.05:04
Mr0bviousI normally use E17 but VNC uses KDE.05:04
Darkprincefyrestrtr, basically i want to be able to play WoW05:04
fyrestrtrDarkprince: first step is to find out how well your game is supported under wine.05:04
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npstermatheiu: As sound konverter converts the mp3s into wav i get 35 MB and by my calculations I should get 720 KB05:04
fyrestrtrDarkprince: WoW is supported very well (I used to play it under wine)05:04
Darkprincefyrestrtr, can you help me install and set up wine?05:04
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padanmrobvioux, you should just put in like 'exec /some/wm' to ~youruser/.xsession05:05
GaiaX11Is it difficult to install wine in ubuntu? Probably not. But, it must be difficult to configure it. Where can i find advice to config it in ubuntu?05:05
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> im in pm channel jack_Sparrow05:05
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fyrestrtrDarkprince: all you ever wanted to know is at http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=510905:05
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lonranhi05:05
fyrestrtr!ine05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
fyrestrtr!wine05:06
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:06
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE:  join #Jack_Sparrow05:06
Darkprincefyrestrtr, ok, thanks. i'll check it out05:06
lonranwhere can i download the bcm43xx-fwcutter packet from windows to make the wireless card work in my ubuntu?05:06
fyrestrtr!webcam > Paddy_EIRE05:06
fyrestrtrgah, sorry Paddy_EIRE05:06
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fyrestrtr!webcam > padan05:06
Jack_Sparrow:)05:06
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HesNikkei'm gonna be late for work, but i want to fix this...05:06
HesNikkeIP networking on my ubuntu box just quit05:07
padani guess its a webcam too, but mainly i am interested in the picture ability05:07
padanheh05:07
HesNikkeno amount of ifdown/ifup fixes it05:07
alekzhow can i create a boot diskette with grub ?05:07
fyrestrtr!grub > alekz05:07
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HesNikkelooking in ifconfig it shows that RX packets are at 40.0 GiB05:07
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HesNikkeyay for using correct terms btw :)05:07
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alekzthanks fyrestrt105:07
fyrestrtrHesNikke: wired network?05:08
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HesNikkesort of05:08
fyrestrtreither it is, or it isn't.05:08
HesNikkeit is, but it's going through a wireless bridge05:08
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HesNikke(dd-wrt)05:08
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fyrestrtrHesNikke: do you have a wire connecting your computer to the bridge?05:08
HesNikkeyes05:09
fyrestrtrthen its wired.05:09
raghu206when i type compiz-start menu bars and task bars disappears05:09
GaiaX11Wine?05:09
HesNikkeand dhcp requests successed05:09
fyrestrtrraghu206: #ubuntu-xgl05:09
HesNikkethe dhcp server is on the other side of the bridge05:09
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fyrestrtrHesNikke: are you getting an ip address?05:09
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gubluntuHow do i initiate a console connection over COM1 from terminal of a machine that is already setup for it?05:09
HesNikkeyet, i can't ping the router05:09
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james296so how can I reset my xorg.conf???05:10
fyrestrtrother nodes on the network working properly?05:10
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HesNikkeyes05:10
HesNikkeand samba's working05:10
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Healot!flash05:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:10
b14ck73425i have a linksys wireless-G usb adapter, how do i get it to work?05:10
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HesNikkejust IP networking that died05:10
fyrestrtrjames296: you have been repeating the same question, despite me (and others) telling you multiple times how to reset it. So what's the real problem you have?05:10
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gubluntujames296, check the beginning of the file, its something like dpkg05:10
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ubotuFound: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 4 others)05:10
james296the beginning of the file?05:11
kryton^hi, I've just installed dapper drake and can't get gnome to start (login is fine, then a brown screen with mouse)05:11
james296what ya mean?05:11
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rodrigo__hola05:11
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HesNikkeum05:11
HesNikkeip networking appears to be back05:11
HesNikkeO_o05:11
HesNikkei didn't do anything05:12
Jack_Sparrow!es > rodrigo__05:12
rodrigo__hola05:12
kryton^any ideas why I can't get gdm running, just get a brown screen after login05:12
gubluntujames296, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:12
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lonranwhere can i download the bcm43xx-fwcutter packet from windows to make the wireless card work in my ubuntu?05:12
HesNikkerx bytes is still at 40 GiB... does that mean that i've hit the top limit of some variable? ;)05:12
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Jack_Sparrowlonran:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper05:13
b14ck73425i have a linksys wireless g usb adapter, anyway i can get it to work with linux05:13
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james296that only changes my resolution05:13
HesNikkealright, since IP networking decided to come back on it's own05:13
gubluntuubotu, tell b14ck73425 about wireless05:13
HesNikkei'm going to go to work05:13
HesNikkettyl05:13
npsterCan someone help me more. I really need those wavs but they are 3x my phones memory. Please Help05:13
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james296how can I get it to the whole setup screen?05:13
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gubluntujames296, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
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abricenoAnyone knows how to install flash plugin for firefox in ubuntu?05:14
kryton^Use Automatix05:14
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Neo8750!flash > abriceno05:14
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shadowhywindmorning all05:14
gubluntuabriceno, you have been told many times.. go get it directly from the adobe site and follow the directions05:14
b14ck73425i already have a wireless connection05:14
Neo8750!flash > easyubuntu05:14
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kryton^Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome Desktop, just a beautful brown screen.05:14
Jack_Sparrowkryton^: Anything but #Automatix05:14
Neo8750!easyubuntu > abriceno05:15
matidHi. I have a weird problem. Sometimes, when I middle-click on a link in FF or Epiphany two tabs open instead of one. It seems that sometimes two middle-clicks are detected by Xorg instead of one. Have you ever encountered this problem?05:15
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shadowhywindI am having a problem connecting to the internet in linux, any dhcp commands i can use in the shell?05:15
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erlancvcdvf05:15
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matidshadowhywind: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart05:15
matidshadowhywind: or sudo dhclient05:16
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lonranJack_Sparrow, i need to download the packet from somewhere in windows, cuz i cannot use apt-get in ubuntu without network, does that packet come in the instalation disk?05:16
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shadowhywindhaven't tried those yet, if those don't work any other ideas? *i want to try a few things before having to switch back*05:16
wladstonguys : my ubuntu instalation won't login anymore. I guess it's because of lack of free space on disk.... anyone can help ?05:16
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NthDegreewladston, simple05:17
kryton^Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome Desktop, just a beautful brown screen.05:17
matidwladston: Can you log in via the terminal, bypassing the gdm?05:17
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Deaigois there a way to make linux offlaodm ore to swap?05:17
Toma-Ive been rather slow in the ubuntu world lately. Anyone care to fill me in on the latest and greatest desktop things? (eg. xfce 4.4 rc1)05:17
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wladstonmatid : yes!05:17
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Deaigobecaussr at this point intime it has 1meg free all the time05:17
matidwladston: Then do it and delete some files ;)05:17
NthDegreeDeaigo, are you insane? Linux is NOT windows, free RAM is WASTED RAM05:17
lonranwhere can i donwload the packet bcm43xx-fwcutter if i cannot use the repository without network? does this packet come in the instalation disk?05:17
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shadowhywindwladston - have you tried to clean your apt files?05:17
Deaigoso if you apply any stress it kills rpoceses05:17
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wladstonmatid : i've tried ... there are no more files to delete ... the problem heappened after I tried to install eclipse :|05:18
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DeaigoNthDegree i mean like more readily offload it to swap05:18
NthDegreeDeaigo, free RAM is wasted RAM and that is the truth05:18
matidsudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean05:18
shadowhywindi had the same problem, and once i cleared out the useless left over files from apt i had enough free to sign back in05:18
WulongWhere can I get aalib1 >= 1.2 in package?05:18
wladstonshadowind : how can i do it ?05:18
matidwladston: Try if it helps05:18
bbrazilmatid: clean > autoclean05:18
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DeaigoNthDegree my processes die because there is not mem space05:18
kryton^Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome desktop just a beautful brown screen and a cursor!05:18
wladstonmatid : thanks!05:18
Deaigodo you have any idea how annoying that is?05:18
shadowhywindwladston - what matid said, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean05:18
Neo8750matid: clean removes all the stuff autoclean would remove05:18
xopherWhen using pbuilder, how do I add more repositories?05:18
drummer87hi, can someone tell me what to install to get aiglx running in edgy?05:19
wladstonthanks! I'll get out on m$ win now ...05:19
NthDegreeDeaigo, it will swap to disk when you are low on RAM05:19
frogzooDeaigo: add swap05:19
Paddy_EIREI love how well ubuntu is running at this stage....hopefully none of the updates to come out ruin my setup....can i have like a system restore option??05:19
xopherdrummer87, #ubuntu+1 for edgy, and aiglx is installed just enable it05:19
Deaigoi have a 512 swap05:19
Deaigoit never uses more thant 16005:19
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shadowhywindmorning all05:19
kryton^Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome desktop just a beautful brown screen and a cursor!05:19
wladstoni think ubuntu could warn the user if there is no space to install anything he wants to05:19
shadowhywind*doh*05:19
NthDegreeDeaigo, did you make a swap partition of double your RAM size but no bigger than 2048?05:20
Deaigo128meg ram 512 swap05:20
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matidNeo8750: That's true, I wasn't aware of this, but I think that I saw these two commands used together in some kind of a manual or a wiki page05:20
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NthDegreewladston, open a terminal: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove05:20
mdkeis there a trick for viewing https sites using edgy?05:20
wladstonI'll try it now, gope it works!05:20
krangdoes anyone know if there's a util that takes some text (line breaks included) and outputs an escaped version suitable for use with sed?05:20
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mdkeseems that neither firefox nor epiphany will do it on this machine (https)05:20
Neo8750matid: i was more or less asking to be sure i just forgot the '?'05:20
wladstonsee ya!05:21
NthDegreeif ubuntu is working properly that should leave you with more free space, but beware that has borked on me sometimes05:21
kryton^Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome desktop just a beautful brown screen and a cursor!05:21
frogzooPaddy_EIRE: back up /etc & the output of 'dpkg --get-selections'   & you should be able to recreate  your box without too much difficulty05:21
Neo8750kryton^: because when x load it doesn't load gnome?05:21
NthDegreekryton^, removed any packages recently05:21
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section3anyone know why my shell sessions times out or something when I"m logged in via my ssh client (putty)05:21
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matidNeo8750: You were right, autoclean removes less packages than clean, so only one command should suffice05:21
kryton^Neo8750 - i've got the login showing and logged in05:21
kryton^NthDegree - no this is a fresh dapper install05:22
frogzooNthDegree: why swap no bigger than 2gig?05:22
Neo8750kryton^: so you got a graphical login?05:22
kryton^yes05:22
kryton^and then i login and BROWN05:22
Neo8750at login you should see option sessions05:22
matidNeo8750: But still, running both won't break anything05:22
Paddy_EIRE<frogzoo> im sure of 'get and set' although what is mainly contained in /etc05:22
Neo8750matid: true05:22
Paddy_EIREconfig05:22
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kryton^Neo8750, yeah.. it is set to Default System Session05:22
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NthDegreefrogzoo, it's an ancient limitation that swap used to be no bigger than 2048 (it wouldn't allow you to make it any bigger than that)05:22
Toma-kryton^: check your ~/.Xsession-errors file for anything suspicious05:22
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padaneasycam does not run, complains about the lack of gnome libs I believe, but from reading about what it does, i do not think I need it.  It seems that it only detects and compiles a driver for you.  as I posted before, my camera is recognized and a kernel module is loaded.05:23
Neo8750kryton^: try loading with just terminal and do as toma says05:23
kryton^it just says "Beginning session setup.."05:23
Paddy_EIRE<frogzoo> what about driver configurations such as how i got 1280x1024 will this be remembered05:23
padanthe problem is that i can not get the photos off of the camera05:23
frogzooNthDegree: these days you can add multiple swaps so even if the limits still there (probly not) there's a way around it05:23
kryton^i've got terminal and i'm looking at xsession-errors05:23
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Toma-kryton^: hmm.05:23
padancamerama starts and then bitches that it can't capture video, however I dont want the video, I want the photos05:23
kryton^all it says is "Registering, .... running,..... beginning session setup", no errors05:24
Neo8750and if no problems there try loading what ever gnome loads on start from the terminal (i don't know what that is)05:24
Zaxxonhi need help ... just loaded ubuntu and it can't see my usb wireless card it's a EUB 362 ext any info ??05:24
NthDegreefrogzoo, there is no more limit but all these limitations I abide by historically for stability purposes05:24
NthDegreee.g no boot partition beyond 1024th cylinder05:24
Neo8750whats gnome start when it loads gnome-desktop  or something?05:24
NthDegreegnome-panel05:25
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NthDegreethen the panel loads the applets05:25
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Neo8750kryton^: try loading 'gnome-pannel &' from terminal05:25
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Zaxxonhi need help ... just loaded ubuntu and it can't see my usb wireless card it's a EUB 362 ext any info ??05:25
kryton^command not found :S ?05:25
Neo8750opps05:25
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Wulong(EE) -- Where can I get aalib1 >= 1.2 package?05:25
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Neo8750gnome-panel &05:26
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Neo87501 to many n's05:26
kryton^yeah, command not found05:26
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Neo8750then you need to reinstall gnome =/05:26
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kryton^uggh, which package is it?05:26
Neo8750got me05:26
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gubluntuubuntu-desktop05:26
NthDegreekryton^ try erasing your GNOME settings05:26
NthDegreegubluntu, that wont do it05:27
gubluntutakes care of all dependencies05:27
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Toma-dont erase.05:27
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Toma-mv .gconf .gconf-old05:27
Toma-*smarter05:27
kryton^yeah tah, strange how i have graphical login tho and no gnome05:27
Neo8750yeah backup best way05:27
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NthDegreethat's what I used to say05:27
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Neo8750graphical login is gdm not gnome05:27
kryton^well, still05:27
NthDegreeGNOME display manager == gdm05:27
Neo8750i have graphical login but i run xfce05:27
kalleiI'm trying to install subversion on a server, but i get the message "Media change: please insert the disc lable" when apt-get install subversion. the problem is that the server is 800 miles away :)  what can i do ?05:27
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gubluntuHow do i initiate a console connection over COM1 from terminal of a machine that is already setup for it?05:28
covOPprometheussethk, hey, you there?05:28
NthDegreekallei, easy05:28
matidResent: I have a weird problem. Sometimes, when I middle-click on a link in FF or Epiphany two tabs open instead of one. It seems that sometimes two middle-clicks are detected by Xorg instead of one. Have you ever encountered this problem?05:28
NthDegreekallei, just sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:28
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NthDegreethen remove the lines for the CD-ROM05:28
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NthDegreethen sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install subversion05:28
covOPprometheusmatid, are you using a generic or a specific driver for the mouse?05:28
NthDegreeand you are done05:28
Xtevenhello, can I download an ubuntu install cd with a more recent kernel ?05:29
matidcovOPprometheus: I use ExplorerPS/2 with my Logitech MX 70005:29
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matidcovOPprometheus: I'm not aware of any Logitech-specific drivers05:29
kalleiNthDegree: thanks :D05:29
NthDegreeXteven, ubuntu edgy or there's 6.06.1 or w/e it is called05:29
Neo8750edgy is fun05:29
matidcovOPprometheus: Sorry. the driver is generic (mouse), that is the protocol I use05:30
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Neo8750its got it quirks05:30
XtevenNthDegree : ok, I'll check it out05:30
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covOPprometheusmatid, ok, sorry then, I have no clue ;) might try to install a diferent driver and test it05:30
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matidcovOPprometheus: Thanks anyway05:30
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Toma-anyone running xfce 4.4 rc1? is it kewl?05:31
Neo8750Xfce 4 Desktop Environment05:31
Neo8750version 4.3.90.2 (Xfce 4.4 BETA2)05:31
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Neo8750its got trash05:32
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Neo8750=)05:32
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Toma-beta? more to rc1 :D05:32
Toma-*move05:32
Neo8750this is what edgy is using05:32
Toma-oic05:32
Toma-thats pretty edgy05:32
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Neo8750hehe05:33
malice_url for good screen savers?05:33
Toma-www.google.com05:34
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malice_LOL thanks05:34
malice_:P05:34
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Toma-try searching in synaptic for screensaver and get xscreensaver-data and xscreensaver-gl05:35
malice_k05:35
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Toma-if thats not enough, get the -etxra packages05:35
bohemianCan anyone here help with a sound problem  I upgraded to dapper and now have no sound05:36
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crayzeeIm using 6.06. If I install mysql 5.0 (I currently have 4.1 installed), what will happen to my data? Do I have to dump it first? Also, is it possible to have both 4.1 and 5.0 installed?05:38
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Rookie-crayzee - upgrade05:41
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EVRAMPhi, i have nvidia glx installed and when i try to  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it shows me error, when i edit xorg.conf it doesnt help, but when i type md5 command then i cannost start X due to config problem. pls can you help me?05:42
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crayzeeRookie... In synaptic I mark 5.0 for install and it say I must uninstall 4.1. Will this lose my data?05:42
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james296is there an easy way to make my logon screen fit the entire screen instead of one corner of it showing?05:44
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Paddy_EIREIs F-Prot antivirus anygood05:45
Paddy_EIREparanoia05:46
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james296well?05:47
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kryton^ty for the help guys, works now05:47
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Paddy_EIRE!F-Prot05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about F-Prot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
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elu`Abelhave a question. is it possible to install kubuntu/ubuntu on my 512 mb flash mp3 player?05:49
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rixxonwhat gnome version will edgy be using?05:49
Nookie^can someone tell me what packages are needed to watch a divx movies ?05:49
Nookie^!divx05:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:49
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs05:49
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB05:49
_w^x_if i've ripped a dvd with thoggen how can I then covert the .ogg file to .avi or mpeg4???????05:49
padannookie, grab vlc05:50
padanits a multimedia player05:50
padanand that should also grab the divx libs for you05:50
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elu`Abelhave a question. is it possible to install kubuntu/ubuntu on my 512 mb flash mp3 player?05:51
the_hammerlocate: warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old <---how to fix pls?05:51
Paddy_EIRE<elu`Abel> i think this is possible05:51
Paddy_EIRE!installation05:51
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:51
Otacon22How can i modify the preset music player?05:51
fyrestrtrthe_hammer: sudo updatedb05:51
Otacon22How can i modify the preset music player?05:51
Linuturk_codeelu`Abel, I don't think it would run well05:51
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padan!camera05:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:51
the_hammerty05:52
Linuturk_codeelu`Abel, does it act as a usb pen? if it does, you might want to look into DSL (www.damnsmalllinux.org) I don't know about having both mp3's and an OS installed though05:52
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Paddy_EIRE<Linuturk_code> may not run well but he could use a light weight environment on it05:52
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DarkAudit!kamera05:52
ubotukamera: digital camera io_slave for Konqueror. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 85 kB, installed size 360 kB05:52
Linuturk_codePaddy_EIRE, even then . . .05:52
Paddy_EIREyeah i suppose05:52
padanhm, what can i use if i dont use kde05:52
padanor gnome05:53
Neo8750don't forget gtkam05:53
padanisn't there a gtk style app05:53
Paddy_EIRE<elu`Abel> look up Damn Small Linux05:53
fyrestrtrcamorama Paddy_EIRE05:53
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fyrestrtrgawd05:53
fyrestrtr!info camorama05:53
ubotucamorama: gnome2 tool to view, alter and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 768 kB05:53
padancamorama fails05:53
Neo8750!gtkam05:53
ubotugtkam: GTK+ application for digital still cameras. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.13-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 477 kB, installed size 1144 kB05:53
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padanbitches that it can't capture video05:53
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fyrestrtryou camera is otherwise supported?05:54
Hyakutaroexit05:54
fyrestrtrtry kino if it is supported05:54
Paddy_EIREHow do i run clamav05:54
padanit gets recognized as ApexDigital Digitrex 2110 spca53305:54
padanso it loads the module fine05:54
Paddy_EIREis it freshclam from a terminal e.g. sudo freshclam05:54
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Otacon22How can i modify the preset music player?05:55
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KoskenI just updated to kernel 2.6.17, how can I get the 43xx broadcom drivers to be used, as the old ones are currently the ones used :S05:55
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fyrestrtrKosken: rebuild them05:56
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Koskenfyrestrtr: i am a complete newb at linux :P05:56
alex-weejWhat the f***? A notification that read "To avoid serious...." popped up in my bottom right hand corner and I have no idea what it said.05:56
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fyrestrtralex-weej: on a lapyop?05:57
alex-weejfyrestrt negatory05:57
alex-weejfyrestrt actually google ""To avoid serious" GNOME" points to the fact that I just unplugged my mobile phone without unmounting its volume first05:57
alex-weejThat'll be why :P05:57
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webwolf_27alex-weej, you risk your data by doing that05:58
alex-weejwebwolf_27: apparently05:58
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Bimmerman1911sorry for this newbie question, but when i try to remove a pre-isntalled package with synaptic, it says it has to remove ubuntu-desktop, is this true? how do i remove a pre-installed package safely?05:59
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DethKlokIn scripting how do I store the output of a command into a variable?05:59
DethKloksuch as the date05:59
alex-weejDethKlok: VAR=$(mycommand)05:59
padanSOMEVAR="`date`"05:59
webwolf_27Bimmerman1911, what package do you want to remove05:59
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DethKlokalex-weej: thanks05:59
padanecho $SOMEVAR05:59
Crippy-BoyHi all.05:59
_w^x_if i've ripped a dvd with thoggen how can I then covert the .ogg file to .avi or mpeg4???????05:59
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_w^x_any media heads here?06:00
padanw^x, have you looked at vcdhelp.com ?06:00
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Bimmerman1911webwolf_27: evolution for example06:00
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alex-weejBimmerman1911: removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't actually remove any software06:00
alex-weejBimmerman1911: it is only a "meta package" for the default desktop suite06:00
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Bimmerman1911alex-weej: so its safe to remove even tho it says like that?06:00
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alex-weejBimmerman1911: however, you should normally keep it intact, as when you upgrade distros ubuntu-desktop pulls in the latest set of desktop software06:00
webwolf_27Bimmerman1911, evolution is part of ubuntu-desktop06:00
alex-weejBimmerman1911: what exactly does it say?06:01
Crippy-BoyIs there a reason why after upgrading my kernel i get no boot messages. I just get 'booting <kernel>...' and then everything goes blank untill gdm kicks in06:01
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alex-weejCrippy-Boy: Edgy? Upstart?06:01
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Crippy-Boyalex-weej: Dapper.06:01
alex-weejCrippy-Boy: pass then06:01
alex-weejWhat video hardware are you on?06:01
Bimmerman1911alex-weej: it says the same for all pre-installed packages... (translated) these packges will alsoe be removed: ubuntu-desktop06:01
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alex-weejBimmerman1911: yep that is expected.06:01
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Bimmerman1911webwolf_27: yeah but i should be forces to keep it right?06:02
Bimmerman1911alex-weej: so its safe to remove?06:02
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alex-weejBimmerman1911: safe, but not recommended06:02
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Bimmerman1911alex-weej: it doesent remove the whole desktop anyway?06:03
KarmaFrogcan someone help me with a network question:  I/m trying to set it up so i can use my laptop to ssh into my desktop using a crossover cable , but when i change the network settings to static ip  and put in 192.168.1.1  as the ip iin the section where you're supposed to choose the default device it doesnt give me any options06:03
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webwolf_27Bimmerman1911, it is not dangerous to remove evolution, altough it is part of the efault desktop. It should not remove any REAL software except evolution06:03
M_A_KI just cloned a HD with norton ghost and am having trouble getting the cloned drive working.  I cannot seem to change the hostname nor can I keep the network settings for some reason,06:03
TheDudequestion - how can I make the clock on the upper right, to show the time as 24 hour time?06:04
blad3hi guys. i would like to start a terminal a run a command several times automatically. practically i would like to run who continuously. like top does with processes. can you please help?06:04
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Paddy_EIRE<TheDude> right click it choose adjust date and time then choose in there06:04
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harisund_blad3 you could run it in one of the ttys available from Ctrl+Alt+F1 through Ctrl+Alt+F6 ..06:05
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harisund_or blad3 you could use screen to run it ..06:05
_thumper_found the solution: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/3371906:05
_thumper_off now06:05
Crippy-Boyalex-weej: No worries, Figured it out, It added the splash option to my menu.lst and i had usplash disabled :-) Stupid mistake06:05
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TheDudePaddy_EIRE, there isn't any option like that in there06:05
_w^x_asdpofhasf[oasj06:05
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LinuturkI can't open links from xchat or evolution since uninstalling swiftfox and going back to firefox. How can I fix this problem?06:05
blad3yes, but i would like to run this command continuously to see when somebody has logged in.06:05
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Bimmerman1911alex-weej: thanx for the help06:06
Bimmerman1911webwolf_27: thanx for the help06:06
Jack_SparrowTheDude: right click clock and got o preferences06:06
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harisund_blad3: I doubt if that would help. You could probably run it like every 2 minute sand have the output sent to a log file or something.06:06
webwolf_27damn, not even a chance to say no problem06:06
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TheDudeJack_Sparrow, 10x man. works!06:06
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: had you there..06:07
Paddy_EIRE<TheDude> i dont get it?? thats where i choose mine .... try typing time in 24hr format in there to see if it adjusts06:07
M_A_Kanybody know what might be causing me to not be able to change hostname?06:07
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blad3i see. thanks for help. i remember that a year ago i learned about a tool that does that in linux. but i forgot the name of that tool06:07
Paddy_EIREyeah06:07
frogzooM_A_K: what have you changed?06:07
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M_A_KI cloned a HD and cannot change the hostname on the new drive06:07
frogzooM_A_K: what have you changed?06:07
M_A_KNot sure what you mean?06:08
frogzooM_A_K: /etc/hostname & /etc/hosts06:08
webwolf_27M_A_K, how did you clone it06:08
M_A_Kused norton ghost06:08
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confreyhi everybody06:08
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confreyis it installable 6.10?06:09
webwolf_27M_A_K, why not dd06:09
confreyexcuse me06:09
confreyis 6.10 installable?06:09
webwolf_27confrey, yes of course06:09
juanto install the latest ubuntu is it worth my finding the cd i burnt or can i just install 5.10 then update?06:10
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confreywebwolf_27, I need a cd, where can I download it?06:10
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AdamDHhey all06:10
fyrestrtrfind the cd06:10
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webwolf_27confrey, http://www.ubuntu.com06:11
fyrestrtrconfrey: #ubuntu+106:11
AdamDHI have just installed the OEM version of ubuntu but the password I set at installed and I am logged in with username oem and the password set at install but if I use sudo in a terminal window it says the password is incorrect so I have no way to run sudo. This is the first time I have had this.06:11
AdamDH*install06:12
Marsmenschi'm interessted in forwarding sound to an other computer, anyone has done this? what soundserver can you suggest?06:12
Vyzzanyone knows how to four way boot ubuntu,Vista,Xp and mac os x. rite now triple booting without mac os x06:12
confreyfyrestrt1, tahnks06:12
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webwolf_27AdamDH, do you have a live-cd there?06:12
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AdamDHyes06:13
disastormhey06:13
disastormim trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first06:13
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webwolf_27AdamDH, boot from the live cd, chroot to you ubuntu-root partition and enter passwd <username> and enter a new password06:13
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Vyzzanyone knows how to four way boot ubuntu,Vista,Xp and mac os x. rite now triple booting without mac os x , plz help06:14
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webwolf_27Vyzz, is mac os x out for intell??06:15
fyrestrtrVyzz: you need a mac to run mac osx06:15
binary_goofyhi room! i keep getting an I/O error while i try to copy any VCD onto my HDD. can somebody pls help me?06:15
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M_A_Kwebwolf_27 : I am new to linux06:16
Specdo you trust your cdrom drive, binary_goofy?06:16
Vyzzno ppl have run it alonside linux and xp, just google for triple boot06:16
SpecVyzz: then why ask here?06:16
M_A_Kdidn't understand it very well yet06:16
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AZzKikRanyone any experience with usb modems and linux?06:16
M_A_KI am in a lab setting and needed to get the machines up and running quickly06:16
Vyzzisn't working when i add vista to it06:16
xopherHow do I install something to my pbuild image?06:16
blad3btw, somebody from #gentoo knew the command that runs continuously a line: it's called watch.06:17
binary_goofyspec: just bought drive. its a sony DVD burner. funny thing i have no problems playing VCD's only copying them.06:17
webwolf_27did you use any deadkeys in you ubuntu install06:17
binary_goofyjust bought the drive i mean06:17
lilbitdoes someone know of a web page extractor or some other method to have and view a webpage offline?06:17
disastormim trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first06:17
fyrestrtrlilbit: wget06:17
lilbitI am wanting to archive important how tos that I find and keep them06:17
shawnr_Is there a way to extract a microsoft .cab file? i downloaded a template for excel to import into gnumeric, but its archived in a .cab06:17
Healotyou can try wget or the other thing, hehe06:17
webwolf_27binary_goofy, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vcd.img06:18
Speclilbit: wget06:18
lilbitfyrestrt1, wget at the command line?06:18
fyrestrtrshawnr_: install cabextract06:18
lilbitok, will try that06:18
harisund_lilbit I think wget can create a mirror. If not you can use something called HTTrack06:18
webwolf_27binary_goofy, or better yet dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vcd.iso06:18
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Specbinary_goofy: how were you trying to copy it in the first place?06:18
Otacon22people06:18
lilbitfyrestrt1, Spec, harisund_ thanks06:18
webwolf_27AdamDH, sorry I on't know how to explain it easier06:18
SpecOtacon22: persons06:19
Otacon22i havea a problem with a wireless card06:19
Specwhich wireless card?06:19
Otacon22a d-link06:19
AdamDHIm a tad confused. Right I installed the OEM version so I did the first stage. I am logged in as oem and password I set in install. So what is the sudo password while at that stage as the one at install does not work? I want to setup packages etc before issusing sudo oem-config-prepare.06:19
Otacon22i have see06:19
Otacon22in dmesg06:19
Otacon22and it say:06:19
disastormim trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it06:19
Otacon22mac address.. is on channel 0 outside of channel range of current regulatory domani06:19
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Otacon22*domain06:19
Otacon22why?06:19
KoskenI just updated to kernel 2.6.17 so I can use the 43xx drivers, how can I change so it would use them? :S06:19
Otacon22my router is on channel 0!06:19
ernie_rwhat happened to the ls colors between breezy and dapper?06:20
Otacon22how can i connect outside channel 0?06:20
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SpecKosken: read the wiki06:20
shawnr_fyrestrt1, that worked thanks ;p06:20
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KoskenSpec, I did. Though it seems that its mostly made b4 2.6.1706:20
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shawnr_fyrestrtr, that worked thanks ;p06:21
PM^is there a setting that makes ubuntu log me off when my screen is locked?06:21
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harisundcan I compile a new kernel when Ubuntu is running under VMware and run that new kernel?06:21
Leafwover 46 days the gnome-cups-icon has grown to 46% of all memory. Any ideas what is going on?06:21
PM^because it happend to me that i locked my screen, but after a few hours, i was logged off06:21
webwolf_27Kosken, you need to reboot into the new kernel (make sure it's set in /boot/grub/menu.lst 1st)06:21
staggerhi! can anyone tell me which package contains the default settings and schemas in /etc/ldap? mine is gone and reinstalling slapd doesn't help :(06:21
SpecKosken: well, that's only because i wrote it before 2.6.17 was used :-/06:21
disastormim trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it06:21
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harisunddisastorm: how did you install the ati drivers in the first place/06:22
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disastormthe "second method"06:22
harisunddisastorm: what is that?06:22
disastormwell theres 2 methods to install ati the first one is ubuntu drivers and the second one iati drivers06:22
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harisundso I am guessing you added a repo (Seveas') and install ubuntu-fglrx-$arch packages?06:23
disastormif u use the second method and u wanna switch over to the first this guy told me a command i have to type in first but i dont ermember it06:23
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disastormi guess it uninstalled the second method or something06:23
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KoskenSpec Oh u wrote it :P?. Im just wondering what would be the smartest way to move forward, as some type of 43xx drivers should be included in 2.6.1706:24
EmxBAhello06:24
Leafwhow can one disable the "gnome cups icon", when killed it relaunches.06:25
SpecKosken: I didn't write all of it, but I started it and wrote a bunch of it06:25
Leafwhow can one terminate a user session remotely ?06:25
staggercould someone who has never installed an ldap server please check if /etc/ldap contains anything?06:25
SpecKosken: but if it's changed since then, I haven't kept up to date :p06:25
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Leafwa user session that was opened in the desktop, that is.06:25
SpecLeafw: look for the PID of the session and kill it06:25
disastormim trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it06:26
SpecLeafw: ps aux |grep -i username06:26
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KoskenSpec: Im quite unsure about the whole broadcom thing. Ralink seems easier :P06:26
webwolf_27stagger, if I ha one yes06:26
SpecKosken: <3 bcm43xx :)06:26
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staggerwebwolf_27: does it contain schemas/core.schema?06:26
KoskenSpec: haha lemme guess u got a broadcom :P06:26
Specyeap, that's why i wrote the page :p06:26
Specbuilt into my MB though, so I don't really have a choice06:26
KoskenSpec: did u ever manage to packet inject with it?06:26
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Specpacket inject?06:26
webwolf_27stagger, I don't have an/etc/ldap06:26
KoskenSpec: yep :)06:27
Specwhat's that?06:27
staggerwebwolf_27:ok, sorry. got you wrong06:27
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KoskenSpec: send data to router, to make it respond06:27
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Specoh, well then, yes, i use my wifi card all the time :p06:27
nataraj_hi. is there any way to bypass the file-system check while booting?06:27
Speci've made it work with the bcm43xx module in the kernel, and with ndiswrapper06:27
webwolf_27stagger, if no ldap server is installed there shouldn't be one06:27
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KoskenSpec: you probl running kernel 2.6.17?06:28
Specnataraj_: you can edit /etc/fstab06:28
LeafwSpec : which is the root process of the user, a gnome-session is not present!06:28
quiet!info wireshark06:28
ubotuPackage wireshark does not exist in any distro I know06:28
Specnataraj_: and one of those numbers at the end will tell fsck whether to check the filesystem on boot or not06:28
quiethrm..06:28
quiet!info ethereal06:28
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ubotuethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB06:28
quietmm-kay.06:28
SpecKosken: I don't know, I haven't upgraded my laptop in a while, it's probably 2.6.17 though06:28
nataraj_ah.. k06:28
ernie_rwhat happened to the ls colors between breezy and dapper?  Is it a new bash or something?06:28
greyscalehow do I telnet to a specific port (In my case, 902)06:28
Leafwgnome-screensaver gnome-cups-icon .. lots of gnome-* but no session06:28
Specnataraj_: 'man fstab', it's pretty easy06:28
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Spec!tcpdump06:29
ubotutcpdump: A powerful tool for network monitoring and data acquisition. In component main, is standard. Version 3.9.4-2 (dapper), package size 282 kB, installed size 640 kB06:29
Specdata acquisition! woohoo!06:29
Rookie-!tnt206:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tnt2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
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Rookie-!riva06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about riva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
greyscale!cake06:29
nataraj_yeah.. i thought fstab was used only to mount volumes06:29
KoskenSpec: ah, im just wondering how to get it to use the ones that came with 2.6.1706:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
Spec!riva12806:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about riva128 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
staggerwebwolf_27: true. i wonder why a reinstall of slapd does only create the ldap directory and a schemas directory inside, but no files06:29
disastormim trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it06:29
greyscalehow do I telnet to a specific port (In my case, 902)?06:29
Healot!ati06:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:29
SpecKosken: rmmod ndiswrapper && modprobe bcm43xx06:29
KoskenSpec: thank you06:30
SpecKosken: you need to get the firmware though,06:30
webwolf_27stagger, good question06:30
KoskenSpec: yeh06:30
fyrestrtrgreyscale: telnet hostname 90206:30
quietdon't use bcm43xx... it's so broken.  ndiswrapper works much better. Just blacklist bcm43xx06:30
greyscaleyay06:30
SpecKosken: you can check if it's likely to work in ... /var/log/messages06:30
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Specquiet: i use bcm43xx all the time.06:30
staggerwebwolf_27: perhaps /etc/ldap is present on a default ubuntu server installation06:30
Specand, uhh, well, it works....which is the opposite of being broken06:31
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quietit's horrible...  bcmwl5a.inf with ndiswrapper works flawlessly, all the time.06:31
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Specbut....mine works flawlessly all the time....06:31
webwolf_27stagger, could be, I'm on my LFS box at the moment06:31
quietSpec, what chip?06:31
Specand it doesn't use a proprietary driver made for microsoft ....06:31
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Koskenquiet: have u managed to packet inject with it?06:31
quietI actually prefer ndiswrapper.. because it works the same regardless of the chip.06:31
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quietKosken, i haven't tried.06:32
Specluckily, i only have one chip.06:32
Koskenquiet: okay06:32
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Jack_Sparrowquiet: Is this the link  you suggest ?06:32
Leafwwhat process (what name) has to be killed to kill a gnome session?06:32
Jack_Sparrowhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper06:32
Leafw!gnome06:32
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.06:32
Specman the wiki is slow06:32
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staggeranyone here running ubuntu server? no ldap? is /etc/ldap present?06:33
quietJack_Sparrow, i don't know of any links with it... first thing i do upon installation is add bcm43xx to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and install ndiswrapper.06:33
fyrestrtrLeafw: a session, or the entire X system?06:33
quietI have the Boradcom 4318 chip06:33
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Jack_Sparrowquiet: I think that link details what you are saying06:33
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Leafwfyrestrtr: a session or the entire X, any of the two. I just want to have the machien running as a server and there is an opened gnome session at the moment06:34
quietthe driver i use is:  http://bsdgeek.no-ip.org/~joe/802bg.zip and the bcmwl5a.inf driver within it.06:34
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fyrestrtrLeafw: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop <-- this will stop X06:34
Leafwthanks fyrestrttr06:34
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binary_goof1i'm getting I/O errors when i try to copy any VCD's onto my HDD. there r no probs wit playing, only copyin. can somebody pls help?06:36
quietthe bcm43xx may work with some of the broadcom chipsets, but it certainly does not work with the 4318, as far as I can tell. I tested it with Ubuntu, Fedora, SuSE, and Gentoo. The card would be recognized but would not connect to any wireless networks.06:37
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bsdfoxquiet: it works well on my bcm430606:37
Specbinary_goof1: did you try: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/vcd.iso06:37
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webwolf_27binary_goof1, like I said before dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vcd.iso then burn vcd.iso as an image06:37
bsdfoxquiet, you've got the firmware right?06:37
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quietbsdfox, of course.06:38
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quietthere are many reports of it not working with that chipset though, so I wasn't too surprised.06:38
webwolf_27binary_goof1, make sure /dev/cdrom is not mounted first06:38
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binary_goof1spec, webwolf: this is the output from that command:06:38
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mishkinhello06:38
gubuntuoh crap, whats the exit command for vi?06:38
gubuntuwithout saving06:38
SpecGuBA: :q!06:38
Specgubuntu: :q!06:38
ernie_rWhy does 'ls --color=auto -FXsh' produce such different results under Dapper when compared with Breezy?06:39
Specmishkin: do you really want a response from 884 people?06:39
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disastormsince i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it06:39
greyscaleHaving issues connecting remotely to a vmware server?06:39
quietgreyscale, have you allowed other connections, besides localhost?06:40
quietlocalhost is the only one allowed by default.06:40
greyscaleBWAH?!?!?06:40
greyscaleWhere06:40
greyscaleis that?06:40
greyscaleStupid fingers XD06:40
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quietumm.... lemme check.. i forget. i enabled it a while ago.. brb.06:40
binary_goof1spec, webwolf: this is the output from that command:06:40
binary_goof1dd: reading `/media/cdrom0': Is a directory06:40
ernie_rEverything on my FAT partition shows up all greeny-blocky now06:40
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binary_goof10+0 records in06:40
binary_goof10+0 records out06:41
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binary_goof10 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.00056 seconds, 0.0 kB/s06:41
Specbinary_goof1: not /media/cdrom006:41
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webwolf_27binary_goof1, not /media/cdrom0 /dev/cdrom06:41
gilianimahow to register a new nickname ?06:41
greyscalethanks quiet ^^06:41
Specbinary_goof1: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/vcd.iso06:41
bill__I have a question about partitions. I have some free space on my harddrive and would like to setup a dual boot with another linux distro. can I use the same swap partition for both ubuntu and the other distro? or do they both need their own swaps?06:41
Specbill__: yes06:41
Specbill__: same swap06:41
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Specbill__: unless you hibernate, because that'll save your ram into your swap06:41
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bill__<Spec> thanks06:41
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durrutisalut06:42
Specgilianima: /msg nickserv help06:42
durrutiquelqu'un peut m'aider ?06:42
Specerrr06:42
alekzits ok to create the main ubuntu's partition as logical volume ?06:42
Specyes06:42
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binary_goof1spec, webwolf: now this is the output:06:42
binary_goof1dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error06:42
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ScorchedI'm trying to install the php5 mcrypt module via apt-get install php5-mcrypt  I'm getting an error that php5-mcrypt is not available and missing. Does anyone have any suggestions?06:42
Specyay06:42
binary_goof12752+0 records in06:42
webwolf_27durruti, non france06:42
binary_goof12752+0 records out06:43
quietgreyscale, i believe it's in /etc/xinietd.d/vmware-authd06:43
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binary_goof11409024 bytes (1.4 MB) copied, 4.15552 seconds, 339 kB/s06:43
Specwas that french, durruti?06:43
durrutii'm newbi06:43
durrutiand french :D06:43
Spec!french06:43
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:43
webwolf_27binary_goof1, good now you have an iso. burn it.06:43
Specthey're more likely to speak french there than we are :)06:43
disastormsince i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it06:43
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Specwebwolf_27: he got an I/O error, it'll probably not work06:43
disastormhow would i rmmod fglrx if its in use right now06:44
tristan_durruti, but you can have help here even by French people. But you'll have to speak English ;)06:44
LattywareHey all06:44
poningruanyone know where ubuntu mounts to the smb stuff?06:44
binary_goof1spec, webwolf: the first line said, i/o error06:44
LattywareHaving a problem, Linux is case sensitive, Correct?06:44
SpecLattyware: yes06:44
poningruLattyware: yes06:44
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durrutitristan_ ok, bye ^^06:44
webwolf_27durruti, I only knew that because I'm trying to learn french06:44
Specor is that Yes? or is it YES? or is it yEs?06:44
trappistLattyware: sort of06:44
durruti(no comprendo :D)06:44
LattywareThen howcome when I try mv ./knoppix ./KNOPPIC it fails?06:44
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Lattyware*KNOPPIX06:44
poningrulike I can do smb://<domain><user>@<server>/folder/file06:45
trappistLattyware: linux filesystems are case sensitive, but not everything in linux is case sensitive06:45
Specwhat's it say?06:45
poningruin nautilus06:45
binary_goof1spec, webwolf: the first line said, i/o error06:45
webwolf_27Spec, nope probably won't.06:45
trappistLattyware: is it on a fat32 filesystem or a samba shere?06:45
SpecLattyware: how's it fail?06:45
LattywareYeah, Fat3206:45
LattywareIs that it?06:45
webwolf_27binary_goof1, is the cd mounted06:45
LattywareSpec: Same file.06:45
trappistLattyware: that's why.  fat32 is not case sensitive.06:45
poningruLattyware: yeah thats the prob06:45
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binary_goof1webwolf:nope. not mounted06:45
Lattywareah06:45
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LattywareSo rather, Linux isn't, but Ext3 is.06:45
quietponingru, if you're talking about just browsing network servers, it's not mounted... you're just browsing it with gnome-vfs06:45
trappistLattyware: 11:45 <trappist> Lattyware: linux filesystems are case sensitive, but not everything in linux is case sensitive06:46
trappist:)06:46
LattywareInterestingly, FatX (Xbox fat) is too...06:46
LattywareThanks06:46
SpecLattyware: but more than just filesystems in linux -are- case sensitive06:46
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poningruquiet: ah ic06:46
webwolf_27binary_goof1, try a clone copy with k3b06:46
poningruthanks06:46
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ernie_rWhy does 'ls --color=auto -FXsh' produce such different results under Dapper when compared with Breezy?06:46
ernie_rEverything on my FAT partition shows up all greeny-blocky now06:46
LattywareSpec: Yes, commands and such.06:46
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Specand passwords06:47
KoskenSpec: im a newb at this, how do u get the .o file to run? :S06:47
webwolf_27need to go. Bye folks06:47
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SpecKosken: eh?06:47
ernie_rKosken, link it?06:47
KoskenSpec: :P06:47
Lattywarebingo, switched to my Ext3 partition and it works fine.06:47
alex-weejKosken: you can't "run" .o (object) files06:47
Koskendunno how :(06:47
trappistKosken: you don't run .o files06:47
SpecKosken: you don't, it just needs to be in the kernel: check if it's in: lsmod |grep -i 43xx06:47
binary_goof1webwolf: wil hav to install dat. but just to put things in perspective, the VCD's play fine, only don't copy onto HDD.06:47
SjorijWelcome To Battlefield 1942 Server!!! - http://BF1942.Mooo.Com06:47
SjorijWelcome To Battlefield 1942 Server!!! - http://BF1942.Mooo.Com06:47
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SjorijWelcome To Battlefield 1942 Server!!! - http://BF1942.Mooo.Com06:47
LattywareHopefully I will get a new PC soon, and I can just forget letting windows acess my files entirely.06:47
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SjorijWelcome To Battlefield 1942 Server!!! - http://BF1942.Mooo.Com06:47
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SjorijWelcome To Battlefield 1942 Server!!! - http://BF1942.Mooo.Com06:47
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binary_goof1webwolf: i'll install k3b and c.06:47
SjorijWelcome To Battlefield 1942 Server!!! - http://BF1942.Mooo.Com06:47
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trappisterr06:48
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LattywareI never use it anyway.06:48
tristan_someone mute that guy!06:48
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LattywareGreat script that.06:48
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binary_goof1webwolf: i'll install k3b and c.06:48
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optimusprimewhich is better wine or vmware?....i think it's vmware...06:48
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Specbah, who plays battlefield 1942 anyways06:48
Specoptimusprime: qemu06:48
trappistoptimusprime: they're completely different.  it depends what problem you're trying to solve.06:48
Specoptimusprime: or xen06:48
AmaranthWell, at least he won't be coming back. :)06:48
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optimusprimeand also do I need windows on the same machine to run either one of those?06:49
trappistSpec: afaik you still can't run windows in xen06:49
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trappistoptimusprime: no06:49
Spectrappist: so?06:49
Spectrappist: :)06:49
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Spectrappist: they announced that they would support it, with open standards actually (i don't think you can do it right *now* though...)06:49
trappistSpec: so he was asking about wine... stands to reason he's wanting to run win32 apps06:49
wladstonubunu works now! :)06:49
binary_goof1webwolf: while we're at it, i have one more question. how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's and mplayer to autoplay my DVD's? right now, totem pops up for both.06:49
sorush20my alsa is not working properly since I keep getting this crash.. what packages do I need to have installed for alsa to be working smoothly.. do I need alsa-firmware-loaders?  CPUcount:206:50
sorush20http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2293106:50
AlexCbinary_goof1, System -> Pres -> Preferd Applications ?06:50
Amaranthtrappist: You can run Windows in Xen but only if you have a Core Solo/Duo or Core 2 Duo.06:50
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wladstonnow, the disks manager application does not want to open ... it stays on that grayed out mode and I can't check how much free space  got .. any hints ?06:50
binary_goof1alexc: doesn't give option for VCD's.06:50
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trappistAmaranth: ah.06:50
quietAmaranth, you can run windows in xen if you HAVE VT capable processor06:50
AlexCbinary_goof1, ahh06:50
Amaranthtrappist: And Xen kernels don't play nice with nvidia drivers (or ati ones, I guess) so not even Dom0 can get 3d acceleration06:50
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Amaranthquiet: The only VT capable processors are Core Solo/Duo and Core 2 Duo06:51
AlexCVT? Vertical Take off processors?06:51
Amaranthvirtualization06:51
disastormsince i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it06:52
AlexCahh06:52
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disastormhow would i reset it to how it was before i installed any of the binary drivers06:52
binary_goof1how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's and mplayer to autoplay my DVD's? right now, totem pops up for both.06:52
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trappistso I have a cdrom drive, a dvd burner actually, that doesn't show up *at all* in ubuntu, though that's the drive I used to install it.  same for breezy, dapper and edgy.  no /dev/hdc (which is what it should be) or anything.  any ideas?06:53
Spectrappist: what's dmesg say?06:53
trappistSpec: hdc shows up only once in dmesg, like so: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA06:54
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: You here?06:54
Spectrappist: does 'cdrom' show up at all?06:54
trappistSpec: I do see this: ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !06:55
trappistSpec: no cdrom06:55
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow>yeah im here06:55
Specwhat else does 'ide1' say?06:55
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binary_goof1totem pops up i meant06:55
trappistSpec: just this: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15    and Probing IDE interface ide1...06:55
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infidelhow can i apt the latest version of kopete06:56
Paddy_EIRE<infidel>sudo apt-get install kopete if it dont update then the newer version aint in the repos yet06:57
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gnomefreakinfidel: what version do you want? what version do you have? and what version of ubuntu do you have?06:57
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> what u at06:57
infidelgnomefreak: 12.x06:57
trappistinfidel: if you're running dapper, there likely won't be a new version of kopete, unless you grab kde 3.5.4 from kubuntu.org06:57
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=== trappist didn't wait for edgy :)
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AlexCtrappist, Ahh I'm beeing good this time, I'm going to wait until its released officaly before I use it06:58
ompaul!edgy06:58
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infideltrappist: i have kde installed on this version of ubuntu can i upgrade it from repository06:58
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trappistAlexC: why does that mean 'being good'?06:58
marshallhey guys06:59
adri_hi, i need help because of my graphic drivers06:59
trappistinfidel: if by 'this version of ubuntu' you mean dapper, then yes06:59
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trappistinfidel: that is, if by 'repository' you mean the kubuntu.org repo06:59
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marshallare there any web developers who wouldnt mind helping me fix some of my xhtml?06:59
Paddy_EIREwill edgy feature an easy option to enable/disable xgl06:59
trappistSpec: any other ideas?06:59
AlexCtrappist, well .... I feel it will be better if I wait till it's released - other wise it would be sneaking downstairs at christmas to see your pressies06:59
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trappistmarshall: might try #ubuntu-offtopic06:59
AlexC=)06:59
Spectrappist: nope, can't think of any, sorry :-/06:59
infideltrappist: where can i fnd the urls06:59
binary_goof1how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's? right now, totem pops up.07:00
adri_i have an nvidia but the hardware database tells that i have an ati07:00
trappistAlexC: feel better about installing it now, so you can help with bugs!07:00
AlexCmarshall, Aye go on then, Im bored so07:00
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Spectrappist: how many cdrom drives do you have?07:00
adri_heyyyy, any ubuntu guru for help?07:00
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AlexCmarshall, join me in #html07:00
marshallAlexC: ok07:00
Crippy-Boy adri: Just ask your question and if anyone can answer they will07:00
adri_oks Crippy -Boy ;)07:01
binary_goof1how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's? right now, totem pops up.07:01
Specbinary_goof1: not sure, check out gconf-editor perhaps07:01
trappistinfidel: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php07:01
trappistSpec: just the one07:01
binary_goof1spec: thanks.07:01
Spectrappist: i dunno then.....weird problem :-/, is it slaved to the primary harddrive? and do you have two ide controllers?07:01
alex-weejbinary_goof1: System -> Prefs. -> Removable Drives And Media07:02
disastormsince i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it. how would i reset it to how it was before i installed any of the binary drivers?07:02
adri_i have an Nvidia but the ubuntu hardware database tells me that i have an ati, when any program changes my screen resolution, the sistem dies. What should i do?07:02
trappistSpec: two ide controllers, the cdrom is the secondary master.  secondary slave (hdd) works fine07:02
Spectry making the cdrom the secondary slave07:02
binary_goof1alex-weej: dat doesn't giv options for vcd. only dvd-video07:02
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Specif you haven't already07:02
infideltrappist: thanks07:03
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trappistSpec: spose I could dig in there and move stuff around.  but the BIOS recognizes it, and I used it in its current configuration to install ubuntu.  so it seems like it's a software (kernel) issue.07:03
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Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> u where looking for me?07:04
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Darkprincei'm trying to update my ATI firegl driver but i keep getting an error07:05
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Darkprince[Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.07:05
Darkprince[Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.07:05
Darkprince[Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.07:05
Spectrappist: the only hit i saw on google that had a similar problem to yours however, the solution was to swap his (2) cdrom/dvdrom drives07:05
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Spectrappist: so...i dunno, i'm kinda doubtful, but it's worth a shot :p07:05
Darkprinceany ideas?07:05
Genesis_DCC SEND 0000000000000009999999907:05
Spec!ops07:06
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trappistSpec: I'll probably try your suggestion.  and I'll triple-check the jumpers, and swap out the cable.07:06
AmaranthSpec: He got K-lined07:06
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LookTJanyone have seamonkey on ubuntu?07:06
gnomefreakok07:06
Specah, is that automagic?07:06
trappistholy ... that works?07:06
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Koskenbah net died :(07:06
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gnomefreakSpec: klines are07:06
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AmaranthSpec: Yeah, freenode staff run a script that does it automatically if someone does it in a channel they're in.07:06
gnomefreaksort of07:06
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Darkprincecan anybody help me update my ATI driver?07:07
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LookTJ!ati07:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:08
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KoskenSpec: didn't see what u responded :(, how to extract the firmware?07:09
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SpecKosken: that's in the wiki07:10
Koskenthis firmware is a .o :P07:10
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carr_?07:12
TSP_XHi all07:12
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TSP_Xi have a weird error every time i time to browse somefiles i get this Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 68: incomplete entry ignored."07:13
TSP_X"07:13
TSP_Xand that line is "application/x-cgwd-theme"07:13
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TSP_Xany ideas how to fix this?07:14
SpecTSP_X: my line 68 is different than your line 6807:14
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TSP_Xi fon't gey it at ll witht hai issue07:15
GaiaX11how to connect through ssh in my own machine?07:15
jacklinehow can I start universe and multiverse without using synaptic?07:15
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TSP_Xid from time to time i when i try to browse my files, for example when i using VLC07:15
TSP_XGais ssh username@ip07:16
fyrestrtrjackline: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines with universe or multiverse -- OR -- see !easysource07:16
TSP_Xfor example root@200.124.2.6507:16
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jackline!easysource07:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:16
cylixI'm running LTSP and when I use the who or w command it does not show all users that are logged in.  Can anyone tell me why? Is it a bug?07:16
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GaiaX11TSP_X: So, how to find my own IP?07:16
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jacklinethx fyrestrtr07:17
trappistcarr_: /join #ubuntu-cn07:17
trappistcarr_: or #ubuntu-tw or #ubuntu-hk07:17
TSP_Xwww.portforward.com07:17
TSP_Xenter there and check your ip07:17
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tristan_carr_, 07:17
TSP_Xor in the network configuration if you have static ip07:17
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TSP_Xanyone at least know wht this file is for? malicap07:18
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fyrestrtrTSP_X: man mailcap :)07:18
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TSP_Xnop07:19
TSP_Xi try that before07:19
TSP_Xi don't have any manual or jelp07:19
TSP_X :(07:19
TSP_Xhelp*07:19
backlitmailcap is a slightly old-school way of finding out the mime types for files07:19
fyrestrtrTSP_X: its *mailcap* not malicap07:19
TSP_XLol07:19
TSP_Xme hyper stoopid07:19
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ompaul!enter07:20
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.07:20
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Adamhey07:20
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TSP_XWell i can comment out those line07:21
liran_any idea if fglrx has support for svideo out yet?07:21
AdamMy network adapter has a DHCP address looks like its sending and reciving data when using ifconfig to view it but I cannot ping, trace or even accsess any network resource?07:21
TSP_Xthey are ignored at least i don't have to see this msn07:21
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fyrestrtrAdam: sounds like you have dns problems07:21
fyrestrtrAdam: check /etc/resolv.conf07:21
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GaiaX11TSP_X: I did ssh myusername@myIP   and typed my passw 3 times and It did not accepted! Why?07:21
backlitAdam: if you can't ping anything on your network, it's not dns07:22
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TSP_Xseems like a remote pc problem07:22
Adamits physically connected and ifconfig looks like its sending data so Im not shure07:22
fyrestrtrAdam: are you on dapper or edgy?07:22
AdamIt has got a dhcp address07:22
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ompaulGaiaX11, have you installed "openssh-server" on the machine you are trying to log into?07:22
backlitAdam: can you pull up a website by IP?07:23
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Adam6.0607:23
Adamdapper I think07:23
Adamnope07:23
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lostincis there a SE version of ubuntu?07:23
M_A_KOk, I am tired of fighting with ghost 2003.  I was reading about dd for linux.  Am I correct that all I need to do to clone a drive is "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" ?07:23
TSP_XSE?07:23
GaiaX11ompaul: It is my own machine that I am trying to access :-)07:23
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lostincSecurity Enhanced07:23
TSP_Xnubuntu?07:24
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backlitGaiaX11: ssh <name>@localhost07:24
AdamI have a local webserver http://192.168.10.6 and its not even getting that07:24
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Jack_SparrowM_A_K: There is also G4L ghost for linux  bootable cd freeware07:24
wolfeySIhello does anyone know what to do to install tvtime under ubuntu?07:24
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ompaulGaiaX11, it still needs to run the server07:24
M_A_KI did not have luck with it last spring.07:24
reitzellI have tvtime working07:24
nich0sDoes anyone have any experience installing GnuPG on Ubuntu or could tell me what I need to do?07:25
AdamBut ifconfig reports it has got a DHCP address and the DHCP server here is centos so I can see it getting the address when looking via ssh on the dhcp server07:25
reitzellall I did was sudo apt-get install tvtime07:25
wolfeySIreitzell: does it need extra repositiories ?07:25
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M_A_KJack_Sparrow : As I recall, it did not seem to like my SATA drives.07:25
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reitzellI just used the standard ones (I turned them all on)07:25
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Jack_SparrowM_A_K: Are those set as raid or std sata?07:25
M_A_Kstandart07:25
Jack_Sparrowk07:26
M_A_K*standard07:26
M_A_K1 drive per box07:26
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GaiaX11backlit: It worked. But why it did not work with my external IP?07:26
wolfeySIreitzell: i see ok07:26
M_A_KI have a lab and built 1 machine and need to clone that for the other workstations.07:26
M_A_KNot having much luck.07:26
backlitGaiaX11: do you have a router? if you have a router, many will not let you talk to the external IP from an internal one07:27
M_A_KThe clone seemed to work, but now having trouble changing hostnames and ip configs for adapters etc.  PITA07:27
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backlitGaiaX11: also, you may have been connecting a totally different machine :)07:27
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TSP_XAnyone using gnome 2.16 in dapper?07:28
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ratbert90I have an odd problem.  I installed the ATI fglrx drivers for my 9800 pro, and they work, untill I reboot,  then they revert back to mesa07:28
trakzI'm wondering if anyone can offer some guidance on printing to a Windows 2003 print server. I know, I know M$ sux, and I'm working from within to migrate to *nix but until I can print to a windows print share I'm kinda screwed. Can anyone suggest a good howto? (nothing on the forums seems to work).07:28
ratbert90how on earth do I fix this?07:28
Joenindon't know07:28
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GaiaX11backlit: I connect to the net through a net company. I mean through their server07:28
Subhumanratbert90, umm run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the correct driver07:29
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fyrestrtrtrakz: system > adminsitration > printing -- double click on add printer, then choose network printer, then choose samba printer from the drop down, add your login information, and your printers will show up. Its pretty self explanatory from there.07:29
P4W3Rhello07:29
ratbert90Subhuman, but why does it revert back to mesa every time I reboot after I get fglrx working?07:29
greyscalequiet- you still there? Your advice has been pushed off the screen07:29
P4W3Rsome help here07:29
GaiaX11backlit: Which is in my city about 8 km away from me07:29
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backlitGaiaX11: it could be any number of things, I'd need to know more about your setup, but for most purposes, you can always connect to your own computer by using "localhost" or 127.0.0.1 instead of a "real address"07:30
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Subhumanratbert90, must be in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see if the driver is set to mesa in there07:30
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ratbert90Subhuman: it says it's set to fglrx07:30
P4W3Rhow to apply a dapper .diff file to a .orig source tree07:30
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P4W3R?07:30
Adamany one got any ideas to my network problem?07:30
greyscaleif I knew what it was >>;07:30
backlitAdam: sorry, it makes little sense to me07:31
trakzfyrestrtr: doesn't seem to work unless your a member of the domain. Can't anonymous clients print to windows 2K3 shared printer?07:31
KaahaneWhat was the command, what is used to xorg.conf for set up resolutions wery easily!?07:31
ratbert90hrm, it seems like the conf file added the ati driver  by itself?07:31
backlitAdam: i was going to suggest lsmod and the like, but if you have an IP via DHCP it beats me07:31
fyrestrtrtrakz: did you add the pc to the domain?07:31
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ratbert90it has two sections now,  aticonfig and ati technologies07:31
Subhumanratbert90, it should of. how do you know its using the mesa driver?07:31
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greyscalequiet! You still therE?07:31
Kaahaneme?07:31
ratbert90Subhuman: fglrxinfo07:31
fyrestrtrtrakz: you can use samba to add your pc to the domain (it involves a bit of setup). Then you should be able to print.07:31
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Adamwell ifconfig reports it has an IP address that it got via DHCP. So the hardware must be up as ifconfig also reports its been sending and getting data. But I cannot accsess any network resource or any local ip address or any local webservers so its like its not even on the network.07:32
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Subhumanfyrestrtr, can you do it the other way around ( make a cups printer on your machine visible to a windows network) ?07:32
ratbert90Subhuman: I will reboot, I think I just fixed it.  What a pain.  I wish I had a nvidia card =[07:32
Subhumanratbert90,  < - happy nvidia user :P07:32
trakzfyrestrtr: Thanks, I was hopeful someone had figured out a way to print without doing that.07:32
fyrestrtrSubhuman: yes, you can do it that way too.07:32
backlitAdam: just a thought, but what does "sudo iptables -L" say?07:33
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Paddy_EIREwhat is everyones opinion of opensuse? I am very sure that Ubuntu is cemented to my primary comp and want to try another distro07:33
stefan_hello07:33
fyrestrtrtrakz: enable guest printing in your windows machine, and browse the workgroup.07:33
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Paddy_EIREon my testing comp07:33
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Subhumanfyrestrtr, nice, ive never shared this printer since i didnt know how hard it was to do (or even possible), ill look into it, thanks.07:33
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greyscalequiet- never mind =P07:33
ArgentinoVLChola alguien me puede decir como configurar el chat de terra espaa????????????????????????????''07:33
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nich0s!espanol07:33
erUSUL!es07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:34
nich0s!es07:34
ArgentinoVLCesoty con el ubuntu y en xchat pero no me sale la configuracion de terra spain07:34
GaiaX11backlit: Say that I am in another city, can I use ssh to connect to my machine through my external IP? Do I need to ask permission to that server administrator to do that?07:34
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nich0serUSUL: You may have won this battle... :P07:34
ArgentinoVLCok thanks!07:34
nich0sde nada07:34
SubhumanGaiaX11, no you should be able to.07:34
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erUSULArgentinoVLC: vaya al canal #ubuntu-es ah te podremos ayudar en espaol07:34
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erUSULnich0s: lol XD07:34
backlitGaiaX11: it depends. if you connect your computer directly to DSL or a cable modem, then you almost certainly can07:34
Adamthere are 3 rules setup in ip tables erm could take some typing into here because I dont have a pastebin. Lets see if remote ssh works07:34
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Adampinging the box remotley I get nothing07:35
backlitAdam: pastebin link is at in the channel topic07:35
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AdamI dont have internet accsess on the box as its a network issue07:35
backlitGaiaX11: if your computer is connected to a home router, you will need to set up port forwarding07:35
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trakzfyrestrtr: Yup tried that! But it appears on a shitty Win2K3 domain M$ still looks for some type of authentication (cifs?).07:35
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GaiaX11backlit: I connect to the net through a wireless card rt8180 and an aerial07:36
backlitGaiaX11: and if you are in a corporate setting, you will def need to ask a sys admin07:36
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GaiaX11backlit: I am not. I am at home07:36
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nich0sGaiaX11: Yeah... we're going to need you go go ahead and call your sysadmin... That would be great.07:37
fyrestrtrtrakz: you need to to add your computer to the domain07:37
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backlitlol07:37
trakzfyrestrtr: Noooooooooooo :-)07:37
GaiaX11backlit: this is a standalone machine07:37
backlitGaiaX11: forgive my stupidity, but is the rt8180 standard wifi or is it more "mobile broadband"?07:37
Adamhttp://code.m0php.net/1207:37
Adamthats the content of my ip tables07:38
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Neo8750how can i be useing X if i don't got xorg installed?07:38
LookTJi just installed a browser07:38
GaiaX11nich0s: my sysadmin does not know anything about Linux configuration07:38
backlitAdam: that's what mine looks like too :(07:38
Otacon22!rc07:38
LookTJhow do i make my jdk work?07:38
uboturc: an implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-2 (dapper), package size 73 kB, installed size 188 kB07:38
nich0sGaiaX11: Jeez... sounds like a moron (sooo just kidding)07:38
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nich0sGaiaX11: ... please don't hurt me.07:38
nich0s :P07:38
Otacon22!runlevel07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:39
Adamnever had anything like this before. Any way to check the itnerface is actually working?07:39
nich0sifconfig07:39
P4W3Rwhat is the key fto search in manpages?07:39
nich0s:)07:39
P4W3Rwhat is the key fto search in manpages?07:39
nich0sman <thing>07:39
P4W3R^_^07:39
P4W3Rno07:39
backlitnich0s: he tried that, interface is up, has an ip via dhcp07:39
GaiaX11backlit: It is a PCI in a internal slot07:39
erUSULP4W3R: man -k <string>07:39
trakzThe annoying thing is, windows clients can print to shared printers across domains without membership.07:39
nich0skey... wow07:39
P4W3Rinside man page to search for a string07:39
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nich0smissed that :P07:39
erUSULP4W3R: or to search in a man page /07:39
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Flatline-kunI have a quick question...I couldn't find it in any of the online docs. I am thinking of switching from Gentoo to Ubuntu and wondered what version of the kernel 6.06lts uses?07:40
P4W3Rwhen you have done man <thing>07:40
backlitGaiaX11: what i mean is, does it only work in your house, or does it work anywhere (eg on the road)?07:40
erUSULP4W3R: man less (is the pager used to see man pages)07:40
fyrestrtr2.6.15-26-68607:40
fyrestrtrthat one07:40
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Adamifconfig shows its working but I cannot get accsess to any network resource but ifconfig shows its sending and reciving data07:40
P4W3RerUSUL: thx07:40
Jack_SparrowThey dont use the latest kernel, they just keep it patched07:40
siouxHi is ok for you 5+1 audio?07:40
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erUSULP4W3R: yw07:40
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backlitP4W3R: while viewing a man page, hit "h" for a quick reference guide07:41
trakzAdam: Check your DNS settings07:41
P4W3Roee07:41
P4W3Rit is07:41
GaiaX11backlit: it is a pci card07:41
P4W3Rit is the /07:41
Adamif I do it by IP still nothing07:41
P4W3R /pattern07:41
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GaiaX11backlit: and is installed in my home PC07:41
annaHello. How can i open an Application always on a predefined  XGL-Screen?07:42
AdamI cannot ping, tracert anything including local ips07:42
Flatline-kunCan you build your own kernel...does ubuntu have tools to do that?07:42
siouxHey surround 5.1 works with ubuntu?07:42
trakzAdam: Subnet mask correct?07:42
backlitFlatline-kun: apt-get install kernel-package07:42
Jack_SparrowAdam:  216.239.39.99 in browser dosnt bring up google?07:42
backlitGaiaX11: that doesn't help me understand, but i'd willing to bet you have a router07:42
Adamnope07:43
Flatline-kunbacklit: so it's basically the same as a Debian distro...as far as the kernel goes?07:43
Adamjust get a firefox page saying unable to connect07:43
backlitFlatline-kun: yes, Ubuntu is Debian the policies and layout of /etc differ quite a bit though07:44
GaiaX11backlit: If I can call the server in my internet provider a router. So I do have a router07:44
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backlitGaiaX11: home routers are all different, but check out http://www.portforward.com/ for great how-tos on how to forward ports07:44
trakzAdam: you on a corporate network?07:44
Flatline-kunbacklit: thanks.07:44
Adamhome07:44
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backlitGaiaX11: you will need to forward port 22 to your machine's internal IP07:45
backlitFLatline-kun: anytime :)07:45
GaiaX11backlit: That site gives me my external IP number07:45
trakzAdam: You have 1 or more nic's?07:45
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Flatline-kunI am downloading the CD now...I'm sure I will be back with questions...;P07:45
raggadazmoni07:45
Adam1 nic onbaord07:45
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raggadazmoin07:45
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trakzAdam: WirelesS?07:45
Adamno wired07:46
backlitGaiaX11: type "ipconfig" in a terminal to find out what your internal IP is. your external IP is actually the external IP of the router, not your PC07:46
trakzAdam: IM the output of ifconfig07:46
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jeannewelke kernelversie wordt gebruikt bij ubuntu?07:46
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backlitGaiaX11: i'll brb if you still need help07:47
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GaiaX11backlit: ipconfig our ifconfig?07:48
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Adamifconfig07:48
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Adamthats will give you your ip07:48
GaiaX11backlit: I mean or instead of our07:48
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jeannede groeten aan hkBst.07:49
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Aphex_Twinhey there07:50
Aphex_Twindo you know of a resource that can perform distribuited radio broadcasts?07:50
Aphex_Twinas in ShoutCast or IceCast, but with distribuited listeners and servers07:50
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jeannequit07:51
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GaiaX11backlit: I know which is my internal IP. Now can I do ssh myusername@myInternalIP to access my home machine from everywhere in the world and be successful?07:51
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Crippy-BoyGaiaX1107:52
Crippy-BoyYou cant just use your internal ip if your not on the network, Youd have to use the external ip07:52
backlitGayaX11: sorry "ifconfig" on linux "ipconfig" is for windows07:53
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backlitGayaX11: from outside your home network, you can't connect to your local machine until you set up port forwarding on your router, and one you do, you have to use the external address07:53
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ratbert90why does ati hate me so much?  Did I drink the blood of puppies?07:55
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: so it would be like this: ssh myusername@myExternalIP ? Am I right now?07:55
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Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: Yes, But you'll need to forward what ever port ssh server is running on07:55
backlitratbert90: ati hates everyone universally07:55
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mfondadoes ubuntu not have ipconfig?07:56
Adamany one else got any suggestions for this network issue? This is my first time with ubuntu. Not my first time with linux.07:56
Adamit has ifconfig07:56
backlitmfonda: ifconfig07:56
Crippy-Boymfonda: ifconfig07:56
erUSULmfonda: ifconfig07:56
mfondadoh07:56
Crippy-Boylol07:56
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ratbert90backlit: how is it possible that I have selected fglrx as the driver to use in xorg.conf,  xorg BOOTs, but fglrx in lsmod is listed as unused?07:56
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nataraj_are there any steps i can skip while booting, like fs-check, to boot faster?07:57
backlitratbert90: lsmod is wierd like that. i have glx working fine with the nvidia driver, but lsmod shows nvidia module as unused too07:57
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GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: I can't do that because the router is a server in my internet company provider. I think that only the sysadmin can do that07:57
P4W3Rbye thx07:57
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Cosmo-sanhow easy can channel bonding be done?07:58
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: Am I right?07:58
M_A_KJack_Sparrow : I just tried to use dd to clone a disk.  I booted from a Ubuntu 6.0.6 CD and it only recognized 1 of my SATA drives.07:58
ratbert90backlit: If I had a nvidia card, it would help.  I have done a few patches for them before back in the 2.5 kernel days07:58
Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: I doubt it unless your at a university or something.07:58
backlitratbert90: your more 1337 than me then :)07:58
Jamminpotatoi wish utorrent had a native linux version07:59
Kragneracheh07:59
backlitJamminpotato: works fine under wine07:59
liran_is tv out not supported on fglrx 8.24.8?07:59
nataraj_do the Ubuntu developers come over here?07:59
ratbert90backlit: linux is logical, what can I say07:59
Jamminpotatobacklit, i have some issues with it07:59
duganyone successfully installed ubuntu on an emachines desktop?  could you tell me the model or point to online help with it? thanks07:59
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: So I have to do this in my own machine?07:59
Crippy-BoyWhy not just use a native bit torrent client.07:59
JamminpotatoCrippy-Boy, name one as featureful and good as utorrent07:59
M_A_KCan someone give me some guidance on cloning SATA drives?  I installed and configured 1 machine and need to get the others up and running so I can teach my class.  I have wasted 2 days and have gotten nowhere.08:00
backlitJamminpotato: isn't utorrent open source? (i prefer curses-based p2p apps)08:00
Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: You have multiple computers in your house?08:00
Crippy-BoyJamminpotato: Azureus?08:00
backlitutorrent is very good though08:00
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: No. Only one08:00
JamminpotatoCrippy-Boy, azureus is bloated and slow08:00
Jamminpotatobacklit, no unfortaanetly its closed source08:00
erUSULJamminpotato: utorrrent works wonderfully here on wine08:00
backlitAzureus is a 30,000 pound gorrilla, uTorrent is a hot 14 year old ninja08:00
erUSULJamminpotato: i use the stanalone exec with the lastest wine08:01
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: So ...08:01
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trakzAdam: When I run ifconfig I have: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:37:35:F808:01
trakz          inet addr:192.168.250.21  Bcast:192.168.250.255  Mask:255.255.255.008:01
trakzwhat do you get?08:01
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Neo8750btdownloadgui ??08:01
Neo8750=)08:01
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bsdfoxwho can advise me on a good program that I can setup to use the 10/100 connection on my laptop when it's plugged in and the wifi when it's unplugged? right now I always have to add routes and set dns/ip stuff to switch and it's a pain. I have network manager that does a good job with the wifi for the most part.. I just need something to disable that and setup the wired, then the opposite..08:01
JamminpotatoerUSUL, myne is just not cooperating for some reason, plus i would prefer a ntive one08:02
backlitbsdfox: Mac OS X? (kidding)08:02
nataraj_why is ubuntu not asking me for password while cut/pasting some files to say the /usr dir.? of course it doesn't allow me to copy them08:02
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nataraj_so i am forced to use the terminal08:02
Adametho Link encap:ethernet HWaddr HERE inet addr:192.168.10.97 Bcast:192.168.10.97 Mask:255.255.255.0 etc08:02
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: So how to forward that port (22)?08:02
sidWhen I try to remove evolution, it tries to remove Ubuntu-desktop08:02
backlitGaiaX11: http://www.portforward.com/08:03
sidI don't use non-web-based mail clients.08:03
sidHow do I get rid of Evolution?08:03
augi01sudo apt-get remove evolution?08:03
trakzAdam: Your broadcast and inet addresses match. That's not correct. What's your default gateway set to?08:03
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backlitsid: evolution is part of ubuntu-desktop, if you want to get rid of it, you have to remove ubuntu-desktop and keep all of its dependencies installed, then you can remove evolution08:03
Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: Are you sure you have a router?08:04
backlitsid: although it's still not a great idea, gnome depends on lots of evolution's pieces08:04
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bsdfoxthere really isn't a good app for that?08:04
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sidevolution is crappy, heh08:04
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eigenlambdalol ya rly08:04
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GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: I do not know. I have a single machine here in my house. Only this.08:05
sidIf you're going to force people to use a mail client(which I doubt more then 30% of users use it) then at least go with thunderbird.08:05
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siddamn gnomers08:05
eigenlambdai want metacity to replace compiz.  compiz is going totally non-gconf.08:05
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Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: when you ifconfig what do you get under inet addr (Dont paste all of it)08:05
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sidI guess I'll just remove it from the menus and pretend it's not there.08:06
AdamI dont know about defualt gateway how can I check?08:06
optimusprimecan I open .zip files in Dapper?08:06
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eigenlambdaoptimusprime: yup!08:06
trakzAdam: System -> Administration -> Networking08:06
eigenlambdajust double-click08:06
backlitsid: agreed 100%08:06
optimusprimedo I need to download something?...08:06
eigenlambdaor, type 'unzip foo' in the command line or something08:06
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: 10. (...)08:06
Adamthat does not hold the settings08:06
trakzAdam: Click on your connection, then properties08:06
eigenlambdano, you already have file-roller08:06
backlitbsdfox: apt-cache search ifscheme08:07
Adamcan I do it from command?08:07
optimusprimeok.08:07
backlitbasfox: doesn't look like a gui tool, but it might do what you want08:07
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Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: hmm. you might be right :-/. Try and get someone you trust to connect to ssh, If it doesnt work you could always set it to run on a port like 443 that wont be blocked08:07
backlitbsdfox: also "ifplugd" might help automate it08:07
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trakzAdam: route add default gw net_gate08:08
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Adamwhich part of that do I replace with the gateway IP address?08:09
duganyone get ubuntu installed on an emachines desktop?  just curious08:09
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HowitzerHi, i'd like to learn how to edit a font.. (i have this font that doesn't have , , ,... characters which i'd like to edit)08:10
earthianhello08:10
grodiushow do you run wine?08:10
Howitzerdo wine in a terminal :D08:10
grodiusI am08:10
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: I already tried to access this machine with ssh myusername@myInternalIP from outside here and I could not.08:10
earthiangrodius, #winehq08:10
earthianor wine /path/to/your/program.exe08:10
Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: From where08:11
trakzAdam: So for you (this is a guess) it's probably: $ route add -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.10.1 dev eth008:11
Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: And did it work?08:11
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: From my friend's house08:11
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: I didn't08:11
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Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: Ok, Try running the ssh server on port 44308:12
backlittrakz: why on earth would ifconfig not add that route when bringing the interface up?08:12
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: How?08:12
Adamthat gives an error network is unreacable08:12
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qsrvhi08:12
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haffe'lo08:12
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duganyone wanna buy an emachines desktop :)08:13
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trakz backlit: normally it would.08:13
BrkopacHey Guys, I seem to be having problems with my sound, it's coming out of my headset yet it sets to come out of my speakers08:13
haffeI have a question. I have a shuttle XPC with an nforce2 motherboard. Is hibernate supported on this machine?08:13
vaginalim trying to install dapper but when i press Start/install ubuntu it freezes and says something similar to PCI: Cannot allocate resource08:13
vaginalany ideas?08:13
qsrvis there a way to check if dbus is functioning ok? I think it's causing me problems with the power manager applet (it's not showing the present state) and network manager - it no longer trys to connect to the net08:13
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backlitAdam: is this in a corporate network? it's starting to sound like there is some sort of filtering that is keeping your machine in a "dmz" vlan, like CleanAccess or something08:13
trakzAdam: $ route08:14
trakzDo you have a default destination?08:14
fyrestrtrvaginal: are you on a laptop?08:14
vaginalfyrestrt1 nope desktop08:14
fyrestrtrvaginal: try the alternate install cd.08:14
vaginalah ok08:14
backlitvaginal: some say your name is "highly vaginal"08:14
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bilss_hi08:15
vaginalindeed it is08:15
bsdfoxI need compiz-plugins_0.20-0ubuntu1_i386.deb if anyone can host it for me08:15
bsdfoxthe server keeps erroring out on this one file08:16
alekzWhat has happened is, i tried installing ubuntu and it goes to the stage passed the unzipping or uncompressing something like that but then it just starts listing errors e.g [162.9876]  I/o error...., something here and then some other numbers.. is this meant to occur? whats happened if its not?08:16
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Adam $ route add -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.10.1 dev eth0 gives network is uncreachable as an error08:16
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backlitbsdfox: did you see my messages about the "location manager" tools you were looking for?08:16
haffealekz: Sounds like your cd is defect.08:16
bsdfoxbacklit, yes thanks I am checking them out right now08:17
Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config change the port line and restart ssh08:17
dugvaginal: others have had that problem, i haven't seen a fix for it yet08:17
enycAdam: that means your machine does not have an implicit route to 192.168.10.108:17
alekzok i'll burn it again haffe thanks08:17
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backlitbsdfox: k cool, let me know if they are worthwhile, i still have to convert my ibook to ubuntu08:17
enycAdam: err also that doesnt make sense08:17
trakzAdam: Just run the command "route" (nothing else). This will display all your currently configured IP routes. Is there a default one?08:17
enycAdam: route to 0.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 is trying to crate a route for 0.0.0.* which doesnt make sense08:18
Adamno routes08:18
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enycAdam: I think you want 'route add default gw (gateway address)'08:18
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enycAdam: It might be 'route add -net default gw (gateway address)'08:18
bilss_this is slightly off topic but i have received some mail from a mac user which is all in hex 4.0 how to decode?08:18
afm\colossusin what package will i find the tool `strings`?08:18
trakzAdam: enyc is correct. Run that....08:19
Roman123Hi! How can I install Ubuntu on a software raid (1). It seems like the installer does not offer such an option. At older versions (prior 6.06), there was a text mode (expert mode) which provided this option.08:19
backlitafm\colossus: binutils08:19
Adamstill says network is unreacahanle if I run route add -net default gw 192.168.10.108:19
afm\colossusthx08:19
enycAdam: however.. BEFORe you can add a default route... you need an address on the relevant network ;-)08:19
Adamit has a DHCP address08:19
trakzAdam: You 100% sure all your physical connections are good?08:19
backlitRoman123: alternate install cd *might* work08:19
enycAdam: then it will pick up IP adrenss and gateway automatically usually08:20
Adamhow can I flush it to get the address again?08:20
Roman123backlit: ah, ok. The "desktop" version does not offer this option?08:20
Roman123right?08:20
enycAdam: 'sudo ifdown eth0'08:20
enycAdam: then 'sudo ifup eth0'  to try again ;-)08:20
Adamsays eth0 not configured08:21
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: Thanks for the help08:21
backlitRoman123: the "desktop" version is a livecd with no text-based installer, the alternate cd has all the tools you expect in a Debian-based installer08:21
enycright... it wasnt up... ok08:21
Crippy-BoyGaiaX11: No problems, It work?08:21
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enycAdam: so.. ifup ...08:21
enycAdam: what happens then ;-)08:21
axanyone know how i can install ubuntu if i don't have a cdrom drive [but i do have a 1G usb flash disk] 08:21
Adamfailed to bring up eth008:21
enycAdam: right.. so there is a problem somewhere08:22
bsdfoxbacklit, will do08:22
enycAdam: what else does it say exactly?08:22
AdamSIOCADDRT: Network is unreachanle Faield to bring up eth008:22
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enycAdam: hrrm... sounds almost like the  network cable is unplugged or something08:23
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: It works with the internal IP on port 2208:23
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backlitAdam: this sounds like a hardware problem, do you know exactly what kind of NIC you have?08:23
enycAdam: or the DHCP server is not answering ;-)08:23
fyrestrtr!installation > ax08:23
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trakzenyc: Did I not just say that?! ;-)08:23
GaiaX11Crippy-Boy: Now I have to test from another place08:23
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enyctrakz: ??that\?\!??08:23
Neo8750!installation > neeja08:24
Adameyc: the DHCP server is in product thats working Im watching the other 6 stations use it at the moment as thats on a server so I have a SSH session open to it to monitor it08:24
Neo8750!installation > Neo875008:24
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Adam*production08:24
Neo8750sry neeja08:24
AdamIts a Shuttle XPC barebones08:24
backlitenyc: if DHCP server wasn't answering, you would see DHCP requests going out, but not being answered when you tried "ifup"08:24
Adamerm NIC hang on08:24
enycbacklit: hrrm08:24
axfyrestrtr: thankx08:24
enycAdam: you can use 'lspci' to (most likely) list your ethernet card08:24
wthwwhello08:24
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fyrestrtrAdam: still haven't got it sorted out I see :)08:24
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AdamBroadcom NetExtreme BCM575108:25
enycbleurgh08:25
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backlitAdam: that brings back memories... i seem to remember having all kinds of problems with that controller back when i was a Windows admin08:26
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AdamI will do a google and see if there is anything08:26
backlitAdam: i wound up having to recompile the dos network driver to get it to work with Ghost08:27
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backlitAdam: and there of the ghosted machines never came back up...08:27
davidOmaticHey08:27
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backlits/there/three08:27
davidOmaticI'm troubleshooting a samba install on mixed ubuntu dapper/breezy network08:27
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enycbacklit: erm looks that the BCM5171 uses a nson-free driver firmware ....08:28
davidOmaticFor some reason while using smbtree i can get the listing of shares, nautilus asks for a password to give me the hosts list08:28
enycAdam: looks like the BCM5171 uses a non-free driver firmware08:28
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Adamshit08:28
davidOmaticany ideas?08:29
redloffhi, what are the "proper initialisation codes for printing the PC-DOS character set" mentioned in http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/dosemu.html?08:29
Adamso any ideas if it will work with ubuntu?08:29
redloffI have no idea, where to get them, nor how to install them08:29
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backlitAdam: if you can get the firmware for it, and the kernel supports it, you can certainly get it to work08:29
backlitAdam: but is it worth that much trouble when you can slap a $5 NIC in a free PCI slot?08:30
enycAdam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20610608:30
enycbacklit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20610608:30
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Adamit has 1 pci slot and its in use08:31
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h8train!installation > h8train08:31
backlitAdam: check out that forum post, it might not be as hard as all that08:31
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backlitenyc: it sounds almost _too_ easy :)08:32
Fuzzyhello ive got a problem08:32
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Fuzzyi have a radeon 9600 and when i fglrxinfo i get Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".08:33
Adam"In kernel 2.6.12-9 I used the tg3 module and it worked great" Im tempted to downgrade!08:33
Fuzzyim missing some drivers i think08:33
enycAdam: backlit: lol... I had a miniq (similar to shuttle)  onboard ethernet die after lightning.... and had to install a NIC in the single PCI slot.. which meant removing the  protentd-modem-thing and using a real modem on com port... and sehtting all that up....08:33
backlitFuzzy: does your xorg.conf contain a line that says: Module "dri"08:33
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FarrierQuestion: How do I upgrade or remove a package that apt-get only half-recignizes? Updated from breezy to dapper, and now apt-get install says "automatrix is already the newest version". apt-get remove says "couldn't find package automatrix", and apt-get upgrade does nothing. Running automatrix says "this version ... does not work on Dapper".08:34
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fyrestrtrFarrier: #automatix for that stuff.08:35
Fuzzyyes it does backlit08:35
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Adamright so its worth me trying the driver from broadcoms website?08:35
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FarrierSorry, fyrestrtr: thought it was an apt-get bug, not an automatix bug.08:35
backlitFuzzy: that's my best guess, I'm using nvidia... sorry08:35
enycAdam: if you know how to make it work againt your kernel source ared rebuild the moidule.. then that is very worth doing ;-)08:35
backlitFarrier: man apt-get08:36
backlitFarrier: check out the --force options08:36
enycAdam: you will need build-essontiall and kernel headers and soforth iirc08:36
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Fuzzy... im using ati drivers ..08:36
Farrierbacklit: thanks, will do! :)08:36
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TheCobrahi08:36
Adamhttp://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/faq_drivers.php#tg308:36
Fuzzyatleast i SHOULD be lol08:36
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AdamI really dont feel like doing that08:37
TheCobracan anybody tells me how I can de-install my ATI drivers?08:37
Bret1Hi, i'm having problems with my dual monitors. I'm running draper release 6.06. Two hp vf17 monitors (LCD), integrated SiS video, and nvidia video card.. I can't get the correct resolution on my second monitor (SiS one).  It looks like its something like 800x600 or so.  Please help :).08:37
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Adamhow do I find my kernel version?08:37
IndyBCHow do I see my IP?08:37
IndyBCAdam: uname -a08:37
Fuzzyi got dual monitor to work08:38
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Fuzzybut with a radeon 960008:38
Bret1do you know how to configure the xorg.conf?08:38
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IndyBCSo, what is the command similar to windows' ipconfig?08:38
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Adamifconfig08:38
IndyBCAdam: ok08:38
IndyBCAdam: we answered each other :)08:38
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Adamthis might not be so bad afterall http://www.mike-devlin.com/linux/driver.htm08:39
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FuzzyBretl: uhm well first of all u need 2 of everything 2 video adapters 2 monitors08:40
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woodbasehi people08:40
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Bret1Fuzzy: yea, i have that all setup.. i had my dual monitors working both on 1280x1024 using xp08:40
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russ_anyone willing to help getting dual monitors set up....???....08:41
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Fuzzyi used some guide actually.... that seemed to work out08:42
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Bret1russ_: yea i'm trying to do the same thing... research xorg.conf file a bit. u need to set it up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:42
Bret1Fuzzy: yea, i used a guide, but can't get the right resolution08:42
covOPprometheushellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should?08:42
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Fuzzyoh? i didnt have a problem with that08:43
Bret1Fuzzy: they work, but its an awfully big res on the second monitor. I'm thinkin it may be a problem with the built in SiS driver08:43
woodbaseanybody who knows anything about libgda?08:43
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FuzzyBret1: could be... im not sure i can help you much tho...08:44
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AbstWhy is xchat-gnome unstable08:45
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PM^how do i install my creative pc-cam 300 webcam in ubuntu? when i connect it, it is detected and the system offers to extract photos, but i want to use it in gnomemeeting for example, with v4l.08:45
Homerhow do I kill a process in linux08:45
magnetman kill08:45
cowbudhomer: open a terminal, ps auxww | grep NAME then get the number xxxx and type kill xxxx08:45
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TheCobrahow do i uninstall the ATI drivers of my videocard08:46
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cowbudhomer: if it still doesn't die you can add a -908:46
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GibbsterHello all. I really know nothing about using printers under linux. Can anyone give me a hand installing my network printer?08:46
backlitGibbster: try plugging it in (seriously)08:47
Gibbsterhaha08:47
backlitGlibbster: then go to the gnome printer utility and double click on add08:47
Homerubuntu   11458  0.0  0.0   3064   756 pts/0    S+   08:41   0:00 grep Firefox08:47
covOPprometheushellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should? please PM me08:47
Homerwhat is the process nmber08:47
magnetHomer: this isn't firefox, it's greap08:47
magnetgrep*08:47
backlitGlibbster: my hp psc 1610 worked for printing and scanning without any command line whatsoever08:47
cpopeBretl: I was able to get dualhead to work, using nvidia, twinview, and the exact same monitor and resolution and this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117408:48
Gibbsterhmm08:48
magnetyou should look for firefox-bin08:48
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HomerI want to kill firefox08:48
Gibbsterbacklit: What do I use for the uri? just the ip?08:48
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earthianrebooting . . .08:48
magnetHomer: then grep firefox-bin, anyway you can do this graphically (open the System Monitor)08:48
archangelpetrothe rage of achilles eh Homer?08:48
backlitGibbster: it wasn't a network printer, just usb, but try just the ip08:48
rixxonHomer: sudo apt-get install htop   # really handy08:48
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backlitHomer: killall -9 firefox-bin08:49
Homerubuntu   21698  1.8  6.2 134760 65180 ?        Rl   Sep08  30:37 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox08:49
Bret1cpope: thanks, i've seen this thread but will look at it more08:49
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Gibbsterand should I use cups, or smb, or lpd?08:49
magnetHomer: the pid is after the username (ubuntu here)08:49
Homerbacklit: ok that worked08:49
PeacefulWhich ubuntu variant(s) are best for an LTSP server???08:49
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backlitGibbster: always try cups first, it acts as a front end to smb and lpd if needed08:49
vorbotePeaceful: edubuntu does it ootb.08:50
FarrierQ: How to upgrade/remove a package that apt-get only half-recognizes? "apt-get install" says "already the newest version"; "remove"/"install --reinstall" say "couldn't find package"; "upgrade"/"upgrade --reinstall" say "0 upgraded"; --force-yes doesn't help.08:50
Gibbsterbacklit: hmmm. doesn't list my printer08:50
Homerrixxon, I'll try that out08:50
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gorskican i resize my fat32 partition?08:50
rixxonHomer: although backlit's suggestion is probably better for you in this specific situation08:50
gorskiusing gparted?08:50
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Peacefulvorbote: ok, I'll try that first.08:51
Homeris the UI for process information08:51
Homeris there*08:51
magnetgorski: no and no08:51
backlitHomer: yes, "killall" kills every process matching the given name08:51
magnetgorski: you can't resize a partition08:51
Farrier(yes, package is automatix; no, it's not an automatix problem, it's an apt-get one; no there is no activity in that channel anyway).08:51
gorskiwhy?08:51
LysitAnyone know of a fairly lightweight bittorrent client that'll support download from rss?08:51
backlitGibbster: do you have "HP JetDirect" as an option in add printer?08:51
magnetgorski: because it's just no feasable; utils saying that they "resize" lie08:51
Homerno like a XWin UI for processes like alt-ctrl-del on windows08:51
frojndcan someone help me with fdisk08:52
backlitHomer: system -> administration -> system monitor08:52
magnetgorski: they copy the content elsewhere, then remove the part, then create another08:52
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covOPprometheushellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should?08:52
frojndI wanna to format NTFS partition08:52
Gibbsterbacklit: yes. should I try that?08:52
backlitHomer: (this is assuming you are using GNOME08:52
frojndwith fdisk08:52
Homerk08:52
backlitGibbster: couldn't hurt, if it's a network printer08:52
Bret1cpope: i've gota restart my comp. i'll get back on when im done with these steps08:52
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gorskiaha08:52
midgetg0a1heya - what software would I use to view my windows desktop via ubuntu - something similar to Remote desktop?08:52
Neo8750vnc08:52
midgetg0a1ty.08:53
LysitFor windows? Tightbnc server will do08:53
FarrierAlternative Q: where does apt-get store its list of "installed packages", and how do I remove an item from there?08:53
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Lysit*Tightvnc08:53
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cpopeQ: I'm using edgy, what kernel should I use for SMP? Synaptic says linux-686-smp is obsoleted by linux-image-generic, which I have installed but it doesn't see my proc as dualcore08:53
midgetg0a1oh, i need to setup a server on the windows box?08:53
midgetg0a1nothing connects native to the RDC service?08:53
backlitmidgetg0a1: man rdesktop08:53
LysitThe windows RDC?08:53
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davidOmatichow do i tell which ubuntu version the machine is running?08:53
midgetg0a1well, thast what i call it, remote desktop service.08:54
backlitrdesktop is a client for Microsoft Remote Desktop08:54
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backlit(aka terminal services)08:54
midgetg0a1excellent, thanks backlit - i'll give it a read.08:54
LysitThe one built into windows never wnats to work for me, so I installed tightvnc server instead08:54
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midgetg0a1right, thats what i meant, terminal services08:54
midgetg0a1gonna try now.08:54
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DShepherd!fonts > DShepherd08:55
robin_szhi girls ... over the years I have put up with the hoops i have to jump through to install Java on debian. Is it any different ie easier on Ubuntu?08:55
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LysitHi girls?08:55
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LysitThats a bit hopeful08:55
robin_szwell, I live in hope.08:55
FarrierIf nobody has any better suggestions, I'm gonna try "rm -rF `locate PKGNAME`" and see if apt-get starts to work then.08:55
midgetg0a1beautiful, worked no problem - thanks a lot backlit08:55
backlitmidget0a1: Remote Desktop Client is a gui front end for both rdesktop and vnc, if you want a non-comnmand-line version08:56
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backlitmidget0a1: np, glad to be off help :)08:56
vorboteFarrier: try with "aptitude reinstall"08:56
midgetg0a1well, im thinking i'll just create a launcher for rdesktop.08:56
cowbudFarrier: what package are you trying to upgrade?08:56
gnomefreakrobin_sz: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre too many hoops for you?08:56
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backlitsimplest is best08:57
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Fuzzyive downloaded XFree86 ATI drivers (fglrx_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.i386.rpm) but how do i install them?08:57
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robin_szgnomefreak, sounds easy enough ... somewhat easier than im used to!08:57
Fuzzybtw sry for being noob lolol08:57
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Gibbsterbacklit:hmm... My real trouble is that I know nothing. I don't know the port, smb name or password, etc. Windows hid all that stuff from me!08:57
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gnomefreakrobin_sz: make sure multiverse repo is enabled and go for it08:57
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gnomefreakrobin_sz: sun-java5-plugin installs plugin -bin -jre08:58
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timsheldoes anyone know where i can find a fafsa/finance help channel?08:58
robin_sz"multiverse repo" ?08:58
Gibbsterbacklit: there's a debian driver on the lexmark webpage. Do you think that will work?08:58
Fuzzyive downloaded XFree86 ATI drivers (fglrx_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.i386.rpm) but how do i install them?08:58
HeMananyone who knows how Epiphany does it's mime-mapping?08:58
Farriervorbote: almost worked, said "Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?" when I ran it as "sudo aptitude reinstall automatrix"08:58
Farriercowbud: automatix"08:59
Jack_SparrowFuzzy: not a good choice08:59
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Fuzzyorly?08:59
Farrier-r08:59
Fuzzyany better ideas?08:59
robin_szhammers?08:59
Fuzzyive got a radeon 960008:59
cowbudFarrier: and when you do a dpkg --purge automatix what happens?08:59
Jack_Sparrow!fglrx > fuzzy08:59
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Fuzzywell fuzzy@fuzzy-desktop:~/Desktop$ fglrxinfo09:00
FuzzyXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".09:00
Fuzzyso thats why im dling this09:00
midgetg0a1backlit: Any idea how i'd set window res? All i see is -f for fullscreen?09:00
midgetg0a1bah09:01
midgetg0a1nm09:01
midgetg0a1-g09:01
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covOPprometheuscan anyone help me activating direct rendering?09:01
Jack_Sparrow!ati > fuzzy09:01
vorboteFarrier: it means there is a runaway apt process somewhere. Need to review the output of "ps -feaw" and do a "kill -9" on anything that has apt in it (probably an apt-http process).09:01
midgetg0a1you running compiz covOPprometheus?09:01
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backlitGibbster: i would try eveything else before installing an "official" lexmark driver on your machine09:01
Fuzzyok well.. try speaking in sentences09:01
Farriercowbud: brilliant, thank you :) That command removed it from the apt-get and aptitude database, which is exactly what I needed. Thanks :)09:01
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Fuzzyu might make more sence then09:01
cowbudFarrier: no problem09:01
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covOPprometheusmidgetg0a1, actually I have no idea :S how can I check that?09:01
Jack_SparrowFuzzy: did you try to follow the Ubotu instructions?09:02
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midgetg0a1run compiz-start from terminal09:02
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backlitGibbster: basically you need to have the computer find the printer before you can tell it what driver it needs, and chances are the driver is already installed09:02
Fuzzywhat ubutu instructions09:02
midgetg0a1the reason i ask is because when i'm in compiz/xgl session, direct render: no...09:02
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covOPprometheusbash: compiz-start: command not found09:02
Jack_SparrowFuzzy: The ati instructions I linked to you09:02
mjrmidgetg0a1, xgl doesn't do direct rendering09:02
midgetg0a1apparnetly that is just what it says. when i'm in a normal gnome session, it says yes...09:02
midgetg0a1right, thats what i'm trying to explain - but i do a horrible job no doubt.09:03
Fuzzyohh lol09:03
Fuzzyi didnt notice09:03
FuzzyXD09:03
Farriervorbote: thanks :) Looks like whatever process it was is dead already, no *apt* processes running09:03
Jack_SparrowFuzzy: and the fglrx instructions I linked to you09:03
vorbote:-)09:04
thomasHello, I am having some trouble setting up a cron job. I have two commands which I know work, both are excecutable, but cron will not run either of them. I have tried using crontab -e as well as gnome-schedule. Neither has worked. Can somebody help me solve this please?09:04
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Fuzzyill try both09:04
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Jack_SparrowFuzzy: np ... There are easier wayt to do what you want without trying to Alien an RPM09:04
Neo8750http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22935 <-- how can i fix this09:05
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sharpi get /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory while building ndiswrapper, somebody please help.09:05
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thomasNeo8750: what are you trying to compile?09:05
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Neo8750xfce4-mixer09:06
Jack_Sparrowsharp.. what card are you trying to get working09:06
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thomasNeo8750: you know that is available via apt right?09:06
Neo8750not the rc109:06
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sharpJack_Sparrow, Broadcom 431109:06
Jack_SparrowOne sec09:07
thomasNeo8750: did you use --prefix=/usr ??09:07
Neo8750trying to install xfce4.4rc1 and thats where it failed09:07
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Neo8750maybe it09:07
Jack_Sparrowsharp https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper09:07
covOPprometheuscan anyone help me activating direct rendering?09:07
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sharpJack_Sparrow, ndiswrapper-utils is too old for this driver09:08
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nich0sIf anyone has a sony laptop, please make sure that you don't call in in regards to software that was never and will never be written for linux.  In fact, why don't you just shoot yourself in the foot for doing something intelligent... idk switching to linux. :P09:08
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covOPprometheushas anyone some experience with Intel Media Accelerator 900 ?09:08
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Jack_Sparrowsharp: People have followed that link and gotten that card running09:08
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thomascovOPprometheus: just tell us what your problem is.09:09
Jack_Sparrowsharp: Just a suggestion..09:09
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covOPprometheushellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should?09:09
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covOPprometheusthomas, just read what I'm asking for some hours hehe ;)09:09
Jack_Sparrowbbl... Play nice09:10
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Jack_SparrowcovOPprometheus: Have you tried glxgears -printfps09:10
thomascovOPprometheus: is your Xorg.conf file edited correctly to enable DRI?09:10
Linuh 09:10
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Linuh 09:10
covOPprometheusthomas, how would it be correctly? I'm new to this09:11
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Linuh   .09:11
Linuh?09:11
Jack_Sparrow!ru09:11
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help09:11
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covOPprometheusJack_Sparrow, it's sticky as hell now, but I could swear it worked before :S09:12
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covOPprometheusJack_Sparrow, direct rendering is not enabled now09:12
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FuzzyJack_Sparrow:  when i do sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname-r) it says bash: uname-r: command not found09:12
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Jack_SparrowWife is giving me that look.. Sorry but I must go...09:12
davinHi, im sort of a linux noob, Im trying to copy '/' to a usb harddisk as backup because I want to try out Xgl/Compiz, can I just safely use 'sudo cp / /mnt/usb/harddrive/whatever'? Just want to make sure09:12
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Fuzzyso whats this (uname-r) about ?09:12
FlimFlamManis there a way to set up a directory such that all directories created under it are read/write for the group that owns it, regardless of who creates them?09:12
Jack_SparrowFuzzy: did you enable the repos?09:13
thomascovOPprometheus: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then find ' Section "Module" ' and add a new line Load "dri" as the others are.09:13
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Fuzzyrepos?09:13
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davinFuzzy: uname-r refers to the currently running kernel09:13
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Jack_SparrowFuzzy: Sorry out of time... look at your sources.list09:13
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davinFuzzy: if you are getting a package with a uname-r prefix, it most likely means it will get you the version for your kernel09:13
Fuzzyok09:13
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don_jrHow do I use a .bin file?09:14
covOPprometheusthomas, it is already there09:14
Fuzzyahh09:14
davindon_jr: ./blabla.bin?09:14
thomascovOPprometheus: what drivers are you using?09:14
nich0sWhat is the name of the perl scriptable browser?09:14
don_jrdavin I'll keep trying, that hasn't worked as of yet.09:14
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backlitdavin: don't forget to chmod u+x that bad boy :)09:14
Fuzzywhere is the sources.list?09:14
backlitFuzzy: /etc/apt/09:15
juanis there an alternative to beagle for finding files on my pc?09:15
covOPprometheusthomas, 855 I think09:15
davindon_jr: as backlit said, make sure its chmod +x'ed09:15
covOPprometheusthomas, had to fix 1280x80009:15
nich0sbacklit, go to bed or something :P09:15
thomascovOPprometheus: I don't know anything about that driver. It could be it does not support DRI.09:16
don_jrdavin how do I do that?  THis is my first nix system, sorry to be so needy.09:16
covOPprometheusthomas, what other driver should I use?09:16
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backlitdon_jr: this is assuming that your .bin file is some kind of program, it could also be a MacBinary file, or simply a binary file of some kind09:16
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backlitnich0s: it's 3 o clock in the afternoon!09:16
thomascovOPprometheus: what graphics card do you have?09:16
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cerdai cant recover grub using the internets howto's they dont wokr for me =(09:16
nich0sdon_jr:  man chmod09:17
don_jrbacklit it's a download from java, said on the site to be a 'self extracting' file....09:17
covOPprometheusthomas, intel media accelerator 90009:17
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nich0sbacklit: You were on the last time I was here. :P09:17
cerdaanyone could help me recovering grub???09:17
juan!beagle09:17
ubotubeagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB09:17
covOPprometheusthomas, well let's start from scratch, I'm having some trouble with 3ddesktop only09:17
harleypigI'm trying to get the native wmv9 patch working discussed in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140565 but am failing ... any place that has updates on this?09:17
backlitnich0s: either there is another backlit, or that is an amazing coincidence... i have been in #ubuntu exactly twice, including this time09:17
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AdamAny one had a broadcomm # NetXtreme and NetLink - tg309:17
Adam# NetXtreme09:17
Fuzzyok im checking my sources.list, but i cant find my build09:17
Adamignore that09:17
covOPprometheusthomas, it worked fine, and when I configured some autorun and hotkeys it stopped doing what it should09:17
davinis it able to cp something to a smb:// server?09:18
Adamany one had a briadcimm NetExtreme 57x working in ubuntu?09:18
backlitdon_jr: if it is a self-extracting archive for linux, that should work09:18
cerdaanyone who know howto recover grub????09:18
thomasAdam: use google.09:18
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nich0sbacklit: Someone else has your name... excellent :P  I was up for like 48 hours, so that may have played a part... just type /ignore nich0s :P09:18
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nich0scerda, Do you have access to the system at all?09:18
backlitnich0s: no can do, you seem to be good people :)09:18
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don_jrbacklit I thought so to, but it tells me "command not found"09:18
opera_hi09:19
nich0sbacklit: Excellent :P  (another one has fallen in to my trap)09:19
nich0sopera_: HOWDY!09:19
cerdanich0s what do u mean with acess to the system at all??09:19
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opera_hoi nich0s09:19
redloffhow can I change character set in my printer?09:19
backlitdon_jr: you need to cd into the directory that you downloaded the file into09:19
cerdanich0s cant use ubuntu09:19
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covOPprometheusthomas, any idea why that could come from?09:19
nich0scerda: Are you able to log on to the system locally with any OS?09:19
don_jrbacklit I'm there09:19
Homeris gnash good enough to be useable yet?09:19
cerdanich0s no09:19
backlitdon_jr: then type "chmod u+x " <name of .bin file>09:19
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thomasI am having trouble running a cron job. I scheduled it to execute every 30 minutes, and almost a day later, it hasn't. The script I am excecuting has no user input, is excecutable, and I know it works. Can somebody help me solve this?09:19
backlitdon_jr: then type ./<name of .bin file> (note there is no space between the slash and the file name)09:20
thomascovOPprometheus: I don't know I do not use 3ddesktop.09:20
nich0scerda, You may need to use the computer that you are on to download a live CD and mod the /boot/grub/menu.lst manually09:20
thomascovOPprometheus: have you tried reinstalling it?09:20
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don_jrbacklit the chmod fixed it, thank you09:20
brian98Hey all, I just got a nice 750GB sata drive and was wondering :) should I ghost my install or install fresh ?09:20
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covOPprometheusthomas, I just checked and other programms are afected too, somehow direct rendering got turned of09:21
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backlitcan i try to register my name with nicserve? i don't like the thought of there being two of me...09:21
cerdanich0s i have a live-cd already, how do i mod the menu.lst ?09:21
thomascerda, use a smaller live cd. a full ubuntu live cd is not required to modify your grub list.09:21
nich0sbrian98:  drools on brians HD.09:21
Fuzzysudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname-r) << so what do i put in uname-r im using ubuntu 6.06 LTS09:21
davindon_jr: you know what you just did with chmod? (maybe you know or what to know)09:21
brian98btw I collect DVD's and have 400gb of MP3's just in case you think I'm insane....09:21
nich0scerda, term.09:21
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nich0scerda: after you open the term, you will go to /09:21
brian98which I will be converting to ogg of course ;)09:21
opera_hmm what benefits does ubuntu have? i dont now..should i install ubuntu or debian :S09:21
don_jrdavin I changed the file's permissions to make it executable I believe?09:21
fyrestrtrFuzzy: just type it like it is exactly, it will fill it up for you09:21
DShepherdFuzzy: try uname -r09:21
backlitdon_jr: chmod u+x mean "make this file executable for the user that owns it09:22
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DShepherdFuzzy: with a space between uname -r09:22
Fuzzy2.6.15-26-38609:22
covOPprometheusanyone knows how to reenable direct rendering for a intel chipset?09:22
Fuzzythat must be it09:22
mdshey folks, when I attempt to change gnome themes, and then restart X, gnome hangs on startup with a flashing menu and taskbar (which eventually goes away and I am just stuck with the desktop background and an unresponsive x session).  this is a kubuntu machine with the ubuntu desktop installed09:22
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don_jrbacklit Okay, thank you.  I've got my notebook here I"ve been writing all my commands into that I learn.  I appriciate it.09:22
davindon_jr: yep sort of, you chmod (CHange MODe) it +x (Executable) So you just made the .bin executable instead of a bizzload of code :-)09:22
brian98so ghost or start again... I also got a nvidia card because x was hanging a lot and I was told it was because the ATI support is crap09:22
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don_jrdavin Thank you too, I appriciate it.09:22
Homicide187im having a problem with azureus09:22
davindon_jr: You're welcome, I'm learning too :-)09:23
backlitnice thing about linux is you can't stop learning (you'll die, and your video card will stop working)09:23
nich0sHomicide187: Why kind of a problem?09:23
Liothenhow do you install xchat under ubuntu?09:23
Homicide187./azureus: line 112: 15640 Bus error               ${JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR}java -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp "${CLASSPATH}" -Djava.library.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" -Dazureus.install.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main "$@"09:23
Homicide187Azureus TERMINATED.09:23
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eipihiplopon opening a new window with xcompmgr running, the transparency becomes 0.1 (counted with transset), how do alter that value?09:23
nich0sthat is a problem :P09:23
thomas!tell Homocide187 postbin09:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell Homocide187 postbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:23
brian98Liothen sudo apt-get install xchat09:23
backlitLiothen: apt-get install xhcat09:23
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thomasdamn.09:23
Fuzzyi filled out sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$2.6.15-26-386 and i got this >> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-.6.15-26-38609:24
nich0s!postbin > Homicide18709:24
davin!tell Homocide187 pastebin09:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about postbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell Homocide187 pastebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:24
nich0sit knows nothing of postbin09:24
davin!pastebin > Homicide18709:24
backlitFuzzy: get rid of the $09:24
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Fuzzyoh09:24
thomasthanks davin.09:24
davinIts pastebin, not postbin09:24
brian98darn it..09:24
thomasyeah i messed up.09:24
Fuzzycool thanks09:24
davinthomas: no problemo ;] 09:24
thomasdidn't know aout the >, it changed.09:25
nich0sWell then, what did you do to postbin?09:25
Fuzzythat did the trick09:25
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Liothenbrian98. could not find package xchat09:25
Fuzzyand sorry for being such a newbie ^^09:25
davinLiothen: You got universe and multiverse enabled?09:25
brian98liothen: you need to make sure that you have all the repositries09:25
don_jrHas anyone here successfully got the java JRE working?09:25
davinFuzzy: Thats why you're in a support channel =)09:25
Fuzzytrue that09:25
davindon_jr: you mean Java in a browser?09:25
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don_jrdavin yes09:26
brian98liothen: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ should help ya09:26
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Homicide187it happened when i installed a bunch of plugins09:26
davindon_jr: I used EasyUbuntu09:26
monklegacydon_jr: yes09:26
don_jrdavin EasyUbuntu??09:26
tomaczechi09:26
thomasCan somebody please point me the right direction about Hibernation? I'm using XGL.09:26
thomas!hibernate09:26
ubotuhibernate: activates your computer's suspend functionality. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 328 kB09:26
don_jrmonklegacy what did you do? I downloaded and installed and firefox isn't reading it still09:26
nich0sOk, does anyone know of a browser that will support perl scripting... I know one exsists, I just forgot the name and google is being a communist.09:26
Homicide187the status bar gets to advanced statistics and crashes09:26
davindon_jr: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/09:26
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davindon_jr: does everything for you, like mp3, dvd, java, flash, wmp videos etc09:27
mdshey folks, when I attempt to change gnome gtk2x themes, and then restart X, gnome hangs on startup with a flashing menu and taskbar (which eventually goes away and I am just stuck with the desktop background and an unresponsive x session).  this is a kubuntu machine with the ubuntu desktop installed. I need to clear out ~/.gnome* in order to get running again (I've also been removing the folders in ~/.themes).  anyone seen this before?09:27
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brian98so to ghost or not to ghost?09:27
backlitdon_jr: easyubuntu is nice, but it's VERY easy to get all that stuff working without it09:27
monklegacydon_jr: use synaptic package manager09:27
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thomasmds: you cannot install gtk2 themes for KDE.09:27
algabonehi everybody09:27
davinmds: try booting in recovery mode/xterm and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:27
don_jrmonklegacy I treid looking through synaptic, couldn't find anything that looked like what I needed.09:27
algabonedoes anyone use gajim ?09:27
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covOPprometheusthomas, hehehe guess what, I rebooted and it worked09:27
covOPprometheusthomas, ^^09:27
backlitdon_jr: for java, you can just apt-get install sun-java5-plugin09:27
thomascovOPprometheus: you didn't try that before coming in here?!!09:28
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tomaczecHibernate -> is also a java oop persistance framework.09:28
magnetalgabone: yep09:28
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davindon_jr: Use easyubuntu, it does everything for you, just make sure you dont check Videos, cause its borked09:28
backlitdon_jr: you have to have the multiverse repository enabled for sun-java5-plugin09:28
monklegacy don_jr: did you try "jre"?09:28
algabonemagnet: did you use it with yahoo account ?09:28
covOPprometheusthomas, I had just restarted, so I didn't think it would help09:28
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mdsthomas: I was installing it into gnome :), davin: thanks, I'll give that a shot09:28
cerdanich0s ??09:28
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don_jrbacklit I have multiverse and univers enabled, monklegacy I'll do a search for jre now09:28
backlittrust me, sun-java5-plugin is what you want09:28
Homicide187anything about that bus error?09:28
MrPantsdoes anyone konw how to install GTK+? for some reason it doesn't seem to work for me at all09:28
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backlitnot jre09:28
davinmds: then after use sudo reboot to reboot09:28
magnetalgabone: ? yahoo doesn't provide xmpp, yahoo sux, i don't use yahoo :) btw you mean yahoo transports?09:29
DeeahIs Dapper beta yet?09:29
nich0scerda, join channel #omgz09:29
Deeaher09:29
DeeahIs Edgy beta yet?09:29
thomasmds: just extract the theme file into ~./themes09:29
davinmds: you know how to use a text-based irc client (irss) in the terminal?09:29
backlitdon_jr: the sun-java5-plugin will install all the extras you need09:29
don_jrbacklit getting it now, thank you again09:29
mdsI usually do use irssi davin09:29
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davinmds: irssi*09:29
davinmds: okay np09:29
backlitdon_jr: np, it's what i'm here for :)09:29
juanwhat do i need to do to get beagle to find files on my computer atm its not finding file names of files i know i have09:29
DShepherdDeeah: not that i know of09:29
algabonemagnet: I want to use it like I use gaim. instead of google talk, yahoo messenger and msn09:29
monklegacybacklit:  why not jre?09:29
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DShepherdjuan: time. it takes awhile to index09:29
DShepherdjuan: give it about 15-20 mins or so09:30
rc55Hi, I've installed 4 extra new hard drives, formatted them as ext3 - how can I make them auto mount on my ubuntu system?09:30
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thomasjuan: in the preferences dialogue make sure its scanning your home directory.09:30
monklegacybacklit: nevermind09:30
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backlitmonklegacy: he might install the wrong version of the jre, or the GNU JRE, and no matter what, that won't install the mozilla plugin he is looking for09:30
Kirby904Kirby needs assistance please.09:30
magnetalgabone: maybe you should read about gajim; it's not like gaim, it's a Jabber/XMPP client, if you want to use 3rd party crappy protocols, you'll have to use a transport (so use a server which supports those transports)09:30
tomaczecDeeah: Edgy is alpa. i my understanding of greek letters.09:30
midgetg0a1hrm...so cant view videos through rdesktop?09:30
juani set it to be scanning root09:30
midgetg0a1sux :(09:30
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backlitmonklegacy: too late :)09:30
anon32!wine09:30
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:30
algabonemagnet: do you know some ?09:30
klaushi all09:30
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backlit!roboto09:31
Liothenthanks was trying to help out a friend that has ubunutu09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about roboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
Kirby904klaus: hi09:31
magnetalgabone: www.jabber.org is your friend09:31
davinklaus: hiya09:31
Kirby904Kirby needs assistance with One Quick Thing Please09:31
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klauswhere am I?09:31
anon32kirby: please don't refer to yourself in the third person09:31
magnetklaus: on the intarweb09:31
thomasKirby904: just state your problem.09:31
DShepherdklaus: earth09:31
tomaczecDeeah: w/ ubuntu they call it 'flights', not?09:31
Kirby904I try to install my Phtosmart 3300 series printer09:32
Kirby904i used the printer wizard09:32
don_jrdavin that EasyUbuntu looks very nice.  Thank you.09:32
Kirby904and then i put in the correct host name for it09:32
Kirby904and it doesnt work09:32
algabonemagnet: thanks. i'll search there the answer for my problem. :)09:32
thomasKirby904: read ubuntuguide. www.ubuntuguide.com09:32
magnetalgabone: np :)09:32
Kirby904it is a printer connected wirelessly into my router09:32
Neo8750!cups09:32
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:32
davindon_jr: np, it should get your mp3 woes over too if you havent done it yet, I didnt have mp3 support in amaroK for months :[09:32
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juanive left beagle running for hours but its not working is there any setting i can check to make sure it works right09:32
asdfjklanyone know how to dock thunderbird to the system tray?09:32
nich0sPerl browser?09:33
nich0sanyone?09:33
don_jrdavin I'm also looking to see if I can get wmv files to run09:33
Neo8750google it09:33
magnetasdfjkl: www.mozilla.com, look for an extension doing what you want09:33
tomaczecmaybe they call it flights only since the last release was called 'drake'... now i got confused, too.09:33
thomasjuan: check the preferences dialogue to make sure it's indexing your home folder.09:33
juanit is09:33
nich0sasdfjkl: You can actually download an addon at www.mozilla.com09:33
klausis it jut to chat or to discus ubuntu probs?09:33
magnetmozilla.org it is09:33
asdfjklnich0s which one?09:33
klausjust09:33
Neo8750don_jr: mplay plays wmv but not drm ones09:33
davindon_jr: yeah you can install mpeg/wmv codecs with easyubuntu too09:33
Fuzzyhmm when i do sudo aticonfig --initial i get  "*editing.txt*" is not a valid keyword in this section.09:33
thomasjuan: is beagled running?09:33
davindon_jr: just dont check the web videos, its broken09:33
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nich0sasdfjkl: Pretty self explanatory, it is like "minimize to system tray" addon :P09:33
Fuzzymaybe i need to be in a certain directory for that?09:34
thomasnich0s: check out AllTray. Great program.09:34
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juanyes  2x beagled 2x beagle-search and a beagle helper09:34
nich0sthomas: Can I apt-get it or do I have to actually do work. *whines*09:34
asdfjklnich0s: minimizetotray is only available for windows09:35
klausex09:35
algaboneasdfjkl: when you start thunderbird doesn't apper it's icon in system tray ? on my computer this is what happends. and if i click them it minimise to system tray09:35
SamineruI have a logitech "marble mouse" It is a normal mouse with a trackball on the front. It is working fine except for one thing, it has two extra button that are designed to do page up and page down could someone just point to where i can change the functions of mouse buttons09:35
backlitis it true that the next ubuntu release after edgy eft is going to be called furry f*ck*r?09:35
anon32don_jr: to play drm ones, you need a windows install and a copy of fairuse4wm09:35
thomasnich0s: check?09:35
backlit(that's what i heard)09:35
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thomas!alltray09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alltray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
thomasugh.09:35
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thomas!package alltray09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about package alltray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
nich0sThen look at thomases suggestion of AllTray... i know nothing about it, but you could ask him :P09:35
thomas...09:35
tomaczecununtu wizards: is 'flight' just for 'drake'? or a synonym for 'beta release'?09:35
asdfjklalgabone, no there is no icon that appears in the tray when i start it09:35
don_jranon32 a windows install?  what ya mean?  and what is fairuse4vs09:35
DeeahDoes edgy have an official public release schedule? Is there an exact day it's expected to be released?09:35
Fuzzyhmm when i do sudo aticonfig --initial i get  "*editing.txt*" is not a valid keyword in this section. maybe i need to be in a certain directory?09:36
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afm\colotomaczec: well, edgy snapshots are called "Knot"09:36
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Samineru!mice09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
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Samineru!mouse09:36
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto09:36
backlit!uboto09:36
backlit!ubotu09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:36
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage09:36
anon32don_jr: fairuse4wm exploits a windows vulnerability to crack drmed wm* files09:36
dut!x09:36
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:36
backlitat least it knows its own name09:36
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Kirby904lol09:36
Kirby904!tell Kirby904 about himself09:37
don_jranon32 I'll probably wait to try and get that running for a while then.09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about himself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
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asdfjklalgabone are you using kde?09:37
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thomasKirby904: stop that.09:37
Kirby904ok.09:37
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algaboneasdfjkl: yes. why ?09:37
Kirby904!tell kirby904 about printers09:37
asdfjklalgabone, i'm using gnome09:37
asdfjkli know kde does it by default09:37
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algaboneasdfjkl: I'm not sure if it happend the same in gnome. i'll try right now and I'll return in 5 minutes09:38
nich0sUbotu, IRC Self Gratification09:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about IRC Self Gratification - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
tomaczecbeside having cool names it seems to me that ubuntu brings no means for the the version nightmare.09:38
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Neo8750!botsnack09:38
ubotuYum!09:38
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asdfjklalgabone, thanks09:38
anon32lol09:38
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Homicide187should i just reinstall java?09:39
backlittomaczec: that's not really ubuntu's purpose (see ubuntu bug #1)09:39
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magnetasdfjkl: you want to use the Purge! extension09:39
magnetit works in GNOME09:39
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asdfjklmagnet...i'll look for it09:40
tomaczecbacklit: at least, i hit #1 :)09:40
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Neo8750magnet: purge?09:40
ladydoorhey, i've got a question about ssh...i've never used it before. to make it possible for me to remote-login to my computer, do i need to set up some kind of special server on it or something?09:40
cerdawhen 6.10 will be released??09:40
asdfjklmagnet: do you have a link to it?09:40
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backlitladydoor: you need t install the openssh-server package09:41
Arcad3yes lady09:41
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marshallhey guys09:41
magnetit is an extension to purge your trash but I read that it works as a systray icon for TB09:41
ladydoorcerda: in 10/06 (october)09:41
Tjoelsyo09:41
fyrestrtrcerda: when its ready09:41
thomaslaydydoor: install sshd09:41
marshallis it possible to play shoutcast streams in banshee?09:41
magnethttps://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1792/09:41
Neo8750cerda: probly right after gnome next release09:41
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magnetI haven't tested it though09:41
thomasmarshall: yes. install the Internet Radio plugin.09:41
ladydoorbacklit: ahh...hm. ok, i'll do that and read the man/info page(s) i guess. thanks09:41
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ladydoorcerda: a little secret is that the release numbers are also the release month/year09:41
marshallthomas: how?09:41
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ladydoorcerda: or year.month, rather09:42
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cerdaladydoor omg!! =P09:42
MrPantsdoes anyone know how to fix weird routing problems (like with DC++ and IRC?)09:42
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DeeahIs edgy going to have gnome 2.16 beta, or gnome 2.16?09:42
thomasmarshall: http://banshee-project.org09:42
ladydoor:-)09:42
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backlitladydoor: other than setting up port forwarding on your router, you pretty much just need to install the server, and your good to go09:42
tomaczecladydoor: sshd needs to be run.09:42
magnetDeeah: gnome 2.16 (it is out already)09:42
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marshallthanks thomas09:42
algaboneasdfjkl: it's happends the same on gnome09:42
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backlitsshd runs automatically once you install openssh-server09:42
asdfjklmagnet: can you give me the URL to the extension?09:42
thomasmarshall: no problem. enjoy banshee.09:42
magnetasdfjkl: I did already; https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1792/09:43
ladydoorbacklit: hmm..."port forwarding..." what happens if i'm on a network and can't really control that?09:43
asdfjklmagnet: thx09:43
marshalllol thanks thomas09:43
asdfjklalgabone: what version of thunderbird?09:43
MrPantsFor some reason my IRC and DC++ takes forever to connect09:43
algaboneasdfjkl:1.5.0.509:43
MrPantsanyone know why this might be?09:43
thomasMrPants: are you on dialup....09:43
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tomaczecladydoor: sshd <- check for attacks09:43
backlitladydoor: if it is a home network, you definitely can, if it is an office network, you need to talk to a network admin there09:43
nich0sMrPants: Are you on satellite?09:43
asdfjklalgabone: me too09:43
asdfjklalgabone: what version of gnome?09:43
MrPantsthomas: i'm at rutgers on their network09:43
ladydoorbacklit: campus, actually09:43
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backlitbacklit: if you are connecting from another machine on campus, you shouldn't need any port forwarding09:44
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MrPantsthomas: my roommate can connect fine to all these things09:44
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algaboneasdfjkl: i didn't do anything special for this. :D I remember i was frustrated it's not the same on firefox09:44
backlitbacklit: if you want to connect from anywhere on the internet, you would do well to talk to a network guy on campus09:44
mdsHas anyone seen changing themes in gnome crash wastebasket & clock and then prevent gnome from loading?09:44
tomaczecladydoor: sshd <- check for attacks <- np in a network at home... but, as i see, you are connected to inet.09:44
asdfjklalgabone: okay09:44
nich0sMrPants: Does your computer exhibit any Homicidal tendendies? General Stubborness?09:44
algaboneasdfjkl: and I tried an extenstion for this, used by me on windows. but it's not working on ubuntu/linux09:44
ladydoortomaczec: inet?09:44
thomasmds: you cannot install gtk2 themes for KDE.09:45
backlittomaczec: you aren't making any sense....09:45
MrPantsthomas: but it seems that after i dissabled the network connection one time (needed the battery life) all this stuff started to happen09:45
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asdfjklalgabone: yeah i saw most of the extensions are for windows09:45
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tomaczecladydoor: iner == internet, uhm.09:45
mdsthomas: I've already said that I'm not install gtk2 themes in kde, I'm speaking about gnome09:45
tomaczecladydoor: inet == internet, uhm.09:45
Donut1anyone know how I can fix the problem with mplayer/vlc not playing .mpg movies in ubuntu 64bit?09:45
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backlittomaczec: what's with the "check for attacks"?09:45
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mdsI only mentioned that the machine was originally kubuntu so those trying to help had the whole story09:46
cerdanich0s u there?09:46
DeeahDonut1: /join #mplayer09:46
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backlittomaczec: and what is "sshd" supposed to mean to an ssh newbie?09:46
ladydoortomaczec: aha. ok, and one more question. do i need to know my whole hostname to log in from another computer?09:46
WooDHi ! I have reset Ubuntu and since then ... i've lost the full resolution of my screen.. I tried to set back the resolution but i dont have any choice than the 800x600 any of you can tell me what to do ??09:46
tomaczecbacklit: no sense? please be more precise... i do say a lot of junk.09:46
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thomas!res09:46
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:46
ladydoorbacklit: i assume it's ssh-daemon, but if i'm wrong please let me know :-)09:46
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asdfjklalgabone: any recommendations for me? or am i sol?09:47
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backlitladydoor: you are correct, but you said you were totally new to ssh, so i figured i would tell you what you needed to install09:47
ladydoorbacklit: sweet09:47
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backlittomaczec: it's cool, just trying to make 1337 d00ds out of newbs :)09:48
ladydoorbacklit: i am pretty ignorant about it overall, though. i'm glad you're taking that stance09:48
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tomaczecbacklit: dont assume nothing. ask.09:48
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ladydoorbacklit: well, 1337 d00d3773509:48
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ladydoorbacklit: (in my case)09:48
MrPantsanyone have a clue on how to fix my problem?09:48
algaboneasdfjkl: i'm pretty new on ubuntu. i'm using it for almost 2 months now. I'll search an extension, but I'm not sure if I'll succed. try to use google ... :(09:48
algaboneasdfjkl: or search for an answer on ubuntu forums09:48
asdfjklalgabone: okay thanks09:48
Neo8750MrPants: ?09:49
thomasMrPants: make sure your DNS server is configured properly.09:49
magnetasdfjkl: I didn't find any09:49
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magnetyou can use a program that can minimize to tray any app (some exist) or script your own extension (that's the best way)09:49
algaboneasdfjkl: did you install thunderbird using synaptic or the kit from mozilla web site ?09:49
appAny good references for understanding how automatic discovery/mounting of CD-ROMs and USB devices actually work?09:49
MrPantsthomas: well i have it set to automatic09:49
backlitladydoor: to answer your previous question, you don't need your fully hostname to connect from within the same network, just your IP09:49
magnetasdfjkl:  making your own TB or FF extension is pretty easy09:49
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backlitladydoor: of course if your hostname is easier to remember, you can use that09:50
asdfjklmagnet: definately don't have time to do that09:50
magnetk09:50
ladydoorbacklit: sweet. and how would i go about finding that out? (my ip..my hostname i think i know. it's in the default bash prompt, right? (preferably command-line instructions, as i'm more comfortable though)09:50
backlitapp: i'm convinced its magic :)09:50
ladydoorbacklit: *more comfortable *there*09:50
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appbacklit, if it would be magic it would work better ;-)09:51
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backlitladydoor: type "ifconfig" and it will show the IP address of any active network card on your machine09:51
nich0sapp, It's pretty impressive magic.09:52
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ladydoorbacklit: sweet09:52
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emergentI installed the nvidia drivers following the unofficial dapper wiki, restarted X and got the nvidia splash screen; everything was cool. upon reboot it had stopped working and I received an error.09:52
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ladydoorbacklit: would that be "inet addr?"09:52
emergentanyone have similar problems?09:52
torpedo|dogI'm having a problem with gdmflexiserver.09:52
backlitapp: i believe it is actually linux-hotplug in kernel space that talks to dbus in user space, which in turn talks to gnome-volume-manager to do the actual mounting, but that is all just a guess09:52
backlitladydoor: that's it09:53
marcus_hello, I was wondering, I am using a ubuntu dapper(which I'm now upgrading to edge) is it possible to install the amd64kernel(I'm using i386, I used amd64 before but went to i386 coz of broken packages) and then to dist-upgrade and I'll get all the 64-bit packages?09:53
nich0s.09:53
appbacklit thx, those were good keywords!!09:53
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fyrestrtrmarcus_: nope.09:53
ladydoorbacklit: sweet. so then i could, say, on another machine on the same network, open ssh (unfortunately the school computers don't use linux) and type that in somewhere or other?09:53
magnetbacklit: wrong guess :)09:53
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marcus_I see... to bad :/09:53
thomasmarcus_:install linux-kernel-k7 and linux-kernel-headers-k709:54
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mart_hi, slightly off topic but someone may be able to help09:54
marcus_what will happen then?09:54
backlitmagnet: one day i'll learn how it actually works, i was amazed just to see that it works so well now (i used debian 3.0 STABLE before ubuntu)09:54
magnet1) hotplug isn't used anymore, 2) hald does it after udevplug :)09:54
tomaczecladydoor: man ssh09:54
appmagnet, you know better?09:54
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thomasmarcus_: it will install the amd64 kernel. after dist upgrading, you will be running in 64bits.09:54
Sniper00Xdoes anyone know of a program i can use to quickly create online installation guides like this one: http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/docs/mtinstall.html09:54
magnetapp: i know everything ;)09:55
backlitladydoor: that;s correct. if you want to connect from a windows box, download putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/)09:55
thomasmarcus_: i believe.09:55
apphald? udevplug? What are these?09:55
mart_I have installed compiz, but it makes my graphics wierd in other 3d apps09:55
ladydoortomaczec: that's what i was thinking, but then as i remembered the other machines i'll be connecting from have windoze09:55
mart_anyone had any trouble with it before?09:55
marcus_nice, thx thomas :), btw, is apt-get remove the command to remove all unnecesarry programs?09:55
magnetapp: udevplug replaces hotplug, hald is the Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon09:55
thomasSniper00X: use a template.09:55
superjew9021does anyone no y google earth crashes my computer every time i open it09:55
Sniper00Xthomas: know where I can grab one .. i'm on a crunch and cannot put one together right now09:55
nich0sladydoor, You can throw putty on a jump drive and connect SSL to your computer, you would technically be able to set up a remote connection.09:55
backlitmagnet: and all gnome-volume-manager really does is just launch apps, right?09:55
appOk magnet, thx.09:56
fyrestrtrmart_: compiz/xgl is experimental stuff, expect breakage.09:56
ladydoorbacklit: hmmm...well, the thing is the machines in question already have another client installed, so i guess i'll try that instead. all i can say is that it'll be sweet to be able to access screen from those crappy machines09:56
mart_lol09:56
mart_fair enough09:56
magnetbacklit: I used debian potatoe in the day :) and RH before that ;)09:56
ladydoornich0s: wouldn't i need install permission though?09:56
tomaczecladydoor: you have ssh client to run under windoze.09:56
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mart_i can always just go bake to a normal gnome session09:56
mart_i just like the funky windows :)09:56
magnetbacklit: yep, gnome-vm talks with hald through D-bus09:56
nich0sladydoor, Nope.  single file exec09:56
thomasSniper00X: this channel is for help with ubuntu... use google for everything else.09:56
nich0sladydoor, Just like nmap is.09:56
ladydoornich0s: oh, sweet.09:56
Adamany one know any good tutroials on recompile the kernel on ubuntu?09:56
ladydoornich0s: i'm sorry, but what is nmap?09:57
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magnet!kernel09:57
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild09:57
Adam*for recompiling09:57
MrPantsanyone?09:57
fyrestrtr!kernel > Adam09:57
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magnetladydoor: nmap is a port scanner09:57
AdamI want my network adpater to work09:57
fred__09:57
nich0sladydoor: Port scanner.09:57
ladydoormagnet: ah09:57
ladydoornich0s: ah09:57
Adamand I think this is the only way09:57
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magnet:)09:57
nich0sladydoor, For EDUCATIONAL purposes only.09:57
backlitnmap is like, totally more than a port scanner09:57
magnetnot only09:57
magnetyou're free to scan your own networks09:58
backlitladydoor: DO NOT use nmap on your campus network without permission09:58
thomasAdam: then while choosing modules for your kernel, make sure the module for your network chipset is enabled.09:58
ladydoorbacklit: wasn't planning on it09:58
tomaczecladydoor: _you_ dont need nmap. ;)09:58
Adamcheers thomas09:58
fred__what are u guys talking about ?:)09:58
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thomasAdam: no problem.09:58
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Adamthis is my first time compiling a kernel09:58
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thomasAdam: might take a couple tries.09:58
magnetAdam: join #linux-virgins09:58
magnet;)09:58
backlitdamn guys, why don't you start suggesting netcat to the newbs? just write your own packets!09:58
thomasAdam: don't worry though, because grub will list the old kernels.09:59
superjew9021does anyone no y google earth crashes my computer every time i open it09:59
Xtevenhello, has someone here successfully booted ubuntu on a GA-965P-DQ6 motherboard ? (gigabyte 6-quad)09:59
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nich0sI was using it as an EXAMPLE :P09:59
backlitlol09:59
thomassuperjew9021: because it's beta software?09:59
nich0sI guess I could have said calculator, but Namp was first to mind. :P09:59
Neo8750=)09:59
thomassuperjew9021: or because you don't have 3d support.09:59
nich0serr namp09:59
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nich0sNMAP09:59
Adamwhat server is  #linux-virgins on?09:59
VegetaOn the installation of Ubuntu 6.06, when I want to partitition my hd, how can I create the root partition? Or generally how can I change the name, it automatically pics "New Partition #1".09:59
ladydoorbacklit: thanks though. basically i just want to be able to connect to my computer from the network, since a) i use fetchmail and often forget to kill it when i'm going to be out for a while, and b) think it would be useful to be able to get at my files/programs like emacs09:59
backliti know what you meant :)09:59
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james296how can I have Ubuntu display my system information properly instead of just saying unknown unknown unknown?10:00
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thomas!installation10:00
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:00
MrPantsheck does anyone know how to reset the ethernet settings10:00
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ladydoorbacklit: (not to mention stuff i forget to email to myself before going to print it out)10:00
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tomaczecat least, should we care about newbies... once they got here. :))10:00
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fyrestrtrVegeta: do manual partition, and then set the mount point.10:00
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moparfan90does anyone have counter strike source working though wine?10:00
backlitladydoor: i never understood how people could learn fetchmail and emacs before ssh... i don't know the first thing about either10:00
thomasMrPants: disable and reenable your network interface.10:00
backlitladydoor: but, as always, glad to be of help, and i hope it works!10:00
Gevaudan82Hey guys, anyone know how I can permanently set static DNS settings for my ubuntu server...i'm behind a router but everytime i reboot the DNS gets changed to my router's IP and not the static IP i setup?10:00
Vegetafyrestrtr: It is the manual parition I'm doing.10:00
james296well?10:00
thomasmoparfan90: check wine's site? try cedega? or google.10:01
adamlazhey all. do you guys know if i could adjust or remove an existing windows partition in order to install Ubuntu?10:01
nich0sjames296: If you find out... let me know. :)10:01
thomasadamlaz: use gparted.10:01
finalbetaFollowing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=temperature  ".Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below:" << where do I find the lm-sensors source?10:01
magnetGevaudan82: disable DHCP10:01
thomas!partitions10:01
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks10:01
moparfan90on wines site it says it will work but when i start the gameit  comes up and says loading.. then closes10:01
Gevaudan82adamlaz: adjust, sure...easiest way is too delete all the partitions, install windows using a limited amount of space and tell ubuntu to use all free space10:01
ladydoorbacklit: i really appreciate your help! and fetchmail was easy...and the thing with emacs & ssh is that my mouse doesn't work and so i had incentive to learn good, mouse-free programs fast, and i don't have any need most of the time to get into other computers10:02
backlitadamlaz: you don't have to do that, but you can definitely remove it before installing, although resizing is not advised10:02
Gevaudan82magnet: i guess that would work...any other way? currently i'm assigning static ips based on DHCP10:02
StoneNoteGevaudan82, try dyndns.org its not what you are asking for but it's what you want10:02
thomasmoparfan90: go to wine's irc channel. this has nothing to do with ubuntu.10:02
nich0sladydoor, I would have bought a new mouse.10:02
adamlazthanks all10:02
Gevaudan82StoneNote: currently i'm a subscriper to no-ip10:02
magnetGevaudan82: yep, there are always other ways :)10:02
StoneNotesame thing10:02
ladydoornich0s: well, it's a laptop. also, now i like ratpoison/emacs/etc. better10:02
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magnetGevaudan82: 2 mins10:03
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backlitladydoor: that's interesting... when my mouse breaks, my first thought is not "learn emacs" lol10:03
nich0srofl10:03
backlitladydoor: but each unto his/her own :)10:03
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ladydoorbacklit: it wasn't my first thought...it just kind of eventually happened10:03
adamlazthomas: will gparted work on windows?10:03
backlitlol10:03
backlit"emacs happens"10:03
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ladydoorbacklit: lol10:03
magnetGevaudan82: make a backup of the resolv.conf you want (with the good DNS servers)10:03
nich0sbacklit: Can I have your permission to put that in the quote book?10:03
thomasadamlaz: are you running windows right now?10:03
ladydoorbacklit: it's kind of hard to explain the whole story10:03
adamlazyeah10:03
StoneNotebachler, really? when the car broke I said "Time to pull out the vi manual"10:03
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thomasadamlaz: the ubuntu installer has partitioning capabilities.10:04
ladydoorlol10:04
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superjew9021thomas: how do i tell which one is the problem10:04
magnetGevaudan82: then create a basic scripts which will cp resolv_good.conf to /etc/resolv.conf (and overwrite the one sent by your DHCP server)10:04
maple_a certain program won't work, why doesn't it?10:04
Gevaudan82magnet: the DNS server is the same server that is connected to the router, it's not a separate machine...10:04
adamlazand i plan on ADJUSTING my existing partition to more suitable fit ubuntu10:04
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Gevaudan82magnet: cool, i'll try this, thanks!10:04
magnetGevaudan82: finally, in your interfaces file, just add to the good network device (eth0 or such) : post-up /path/to/myscript10:04
VegetaIt's an installation fra Desktop CD. Does it create the root partition later on by it self? Because I can't create it manually...?10:04
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adamlazthe installer can do all that?10:04
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maple_Y DOSENT IT WORK10:04
Gevaudan82magnet: i'm following you so far, but where is the interfaces file?10:05
magnetGevaudan82: post-up allows to execute a command after the interface is up10:05
dicesquirrelquestion... I'm trying to install a Windows XP partition on my Ubuntu-only (at the moment) Dell Latitude D600 laptop. I've cleared away 10 gigs of space for it, but using "gksudo gparted" I can't add a partition for Windows to go on, as I cannot unmount a drive that's in use. How should I go about this?10:05
magnetGevaudan82: /etc/network/interfaces10:05
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backlitadamlaz: give it a shot, the ubuntu installer is really simple, but does everything you are trying to do10:05
nich0sThe installer could tie your shoes if your computer has robotic arms.10:05
maple_dicesquirrel, you don't want M$ windoze10:05
hondjemaple_: Allow me to psychically figure out what's wrong without error messages :p10:05
adamlazalrighty, thanks again all10:05
backlitadamlz: it's not windows10:05
magnetGevaudan82: and beware of the Beast :)10:05
thomasadamlaz: yes.. how would it install on a computer with a brand new hard drive if it couldn't partition.10:05
AlienXamyone use mimo wireless cards?10:05
finalbetaFollowing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=temperature  ".Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below:" << where do I find the lm-sensors source?10:05
thomasfinalbeta: google?10:06
dicesquirrelmaple_, you're right, that's why I have Ubuntu. But I want a partition for a few windows only apps, like Half-Life and ZMud10:06
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rsaHi i have a apache2 server error, i restarted it Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name. Anyone got a sggestion howto fix?10:06
backlitrsa: that's a warning, not an error10:06
Gevaudan82magnet: just add it beneath the lines auto eth0 / iface eth0 inet dhcp or do i append it after dhcp10:06
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rsabacklit, when i try to access it via my network connected laptop it doesnt show anything.. which might thing hold on10:07
thomasbacklit: rapidfire respone ;D10:07
finalbetathomas, after following the guide, where on MY SYSTEm10:07
magnetGevaudan82: don't you have something like "up dhcpdns"10:07
Gevaudan82rsa: it's a harmless message but something i'd be interested to know too...it's on my todo list this afternoon10:07
thomasrsa: on the system running the server, go to http://localhost, and see if it works.10:07
magnetGevaudan82: you could also remove this line to avoid getting the DHCP dns servers10:07
Gevaudan82magnet: nope, not in /etc/network/interfaces10:07
VegetaIs there some expert who can help me on with a problem on partitioning through installation with Desktop CD?10:07
backlitrsa: it isn't a big deal, but if you want it to go away, you have to specify a ServerName directive in your httpd.conf10:07
magnetGevaudan82: ok then put the postup on the line below after a Tab10:07
backlitthomas; i'm making a real effort here :)10:08
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Gevaudan82backlit: i did that myself but it appears it actually has to be your hostname your server box is running not your arbitrary public domain name10:08
thomasbacklit: yeah I can tell. you seem to have all the answers.....10:08
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backlitthomas: i know a couple things... magnet has all the answers :)10:08
Gevaudan82magnet: i'll try that too, thanks10:08
magnethehe :)10:09
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backlitGevaudan82: you might need to add a Listen directive as well, i haven't played much with Apache yet...10:09
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MrPantslooks like that didn't help at all10:09
Gevaudan82backlist: that's cool...in /etc/apache2/ports.conf i think it is I have Listen 80 Listen 443 but it must be something specific to the files in server-enabled10:10
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Martinp23sorry - really newbie-ish question but im new to this :).  How do I get to the desktop from the command prompt I'm shown? Or do I need to do something else?10:10
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Gevaudan82Martinp23: try startx10:10
tomaczecVegeta: what prob?10:10
magnetMartinp23: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart10:10
magnet(if you have any of the *ubuntu-desktop packages)10:10
dicesquirrelNo one can help me make a NTFS partition on this drive, using Ubuntu?10:10
thomasMartinp23: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart no ?10:10
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backlitdicesquirrel: creating an NTFS parition from within Linux is not a great idea10:11
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Gevaudan82dicequirrel: honestly, it's pretty easy to do it using fdisk...easier than gparted10:11
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ladydoordicesquirrel: you really should use a native windowz program, since linux's ntfs support is sketchy at best, what with it being top-secret software10:11
backlitdicesquirrel: best idea is to boot into XP and do it from there10:11
VegetaOn the GUI I can only create some forms of partition with a couple of different filesystem. How do I create the root partition?10:11
hondjethomas: using the ? means it'll start either gdm, xdm or kdm, depending on what is installed.10:11
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dicesquirrelI can't boot into XP, it's not installed. I'm trying -to- install it.10:12
ShastaMaroonI'm trying to set up a wireless broadcom chipset...iwconfig already sees it as eth1.  Is there a graphical tool I can use to set it up?10:12
magnetVegeta: the root partition has nothing more than being mounted on /10:12
thomashondje: I did not know that. Thanks.10:12
ladydoordicesquirrel: google fdisk livecd10:12
Martinp23ok thanks10:12
hondje:-)10:12
tomaczeclinux is not _so_ bat (meanwhile) when it comes to ntfs.10:12
tomaczecs/bat/bad/10:12
thomasmagnet: sorry :S10:12
backlitdicesquirrel: if you have free, unpartitioned space on the drive, the XP install CD will let you create the NTFS partition10:12
magnetthomas: for? :)10:12
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MrPantsi think i'm going to cry10:13
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thomasdicesquirrel: be careful, as windows will wipe out your grub most likely.10:13
backlitdicesquirrel: but when you install XP, it will overwrite grub, and only boot windows, so you'll have to boot off the livecd and re-install grub on the mbr10:13
backlitdamn you thomas :)10:13
dicesquirrelthomas: do you know if there's a wiki or something on this process?10:13
thomasbacklit: not so quick now.10:13
backlitthomas: i typed more =P10:13
Vegetamagnet: So that means it would be created "by its own"? And what about the partition names? I can't change them either. They just get a default name like "New Partiton #1"...10:13
backlitdicesquirrel: the basic rule of thumb is "install windows first"10:14
thomasVegeta: partition names in linux are not important. The point at which it is mounted is important.10:14
magnetVegeta: huh, don't play with your root part in Gparted :) and the New Partition #1 is just temporary .. partitions are NOT named by you :)10:14
magnetthe kernel names them10:14
rc55Hi, I've added 4 extra hard drives, added entries into /etc/fstab but only three appear in File Browser, any ideas?10:14
ShastaMaroonIs there a graphical tool I can use to configure a wireless interface?10:14
dicesquirrelbacklit: well, that's not really an option at the moment.10:14
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thomasrc55: does the 4th one have a filesystem installed?10:15
rc55thomas: yes, formatted ext310:15
VegetaThen why is stated serveral places that you can choose to have /usr, /var. /home and ect?10:15
tomaczecno rule of thumb... installing windoze will kill Linux by perpose.10:15
tbaur`you tell me ;)10:15
backlitdicesquirrel: i understand that, just remember that after you install windows you will have to re-install grub to boot back into linux, other than it's very simple, as long as you unpartitioned space, or a paritiion you can delete10:15
thomasrc55: you are positive you have it correctly named in fstab?10:15
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magnetVegeta: these aren't partitions names but mount points -- that's a totally different concept :)10:15
dicesquirrelbacklit: how would I go about reinstalling grub?10:15
thomasbacklit: he could also use the livecd to boot from first hard drive... would that boot linux?10:16
rc55thomas: can i paste the four lines from fstab to you personally?10:16
ladydoor!paste10:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:16
Adamany one got ubuntu running with a broadcom netextreme nic?10:16
backlitdicesquirrel: i forget, checking now....10:16
thomasrc55: as long as it's personally.10:16
Adam*nic10:16
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thomasladydoor calm yourself... he said "personally!"10:16
Vegetaaahh ok. So the root doesn't need a seperate mounts points? Is mounts points not the partition? :S10:16
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ladydoorthomas: i'm calm...i'm suggesting that as an alternative because it's better to post where everyone can see so that anyone knowledgeble can give useful tips10:17
thomasVegeta: the name of your drive is taken from the point in the / tree in which it is mounted.10:17
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Gevaudan82magnet: your original suggestion was probally easiest and it worked...just tell my server to use a static ip and the DNS settings stick10:17
magnetVegeta: the root (/) partition can't be changed in Gparted because you can only remount it in single-user mode .. and btw, why would you want to change your / ? it requires a good understanding of how the OS works10:17
magnetGevaudan82: well, both work :)10:18
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backlitdicesquirrel: grub-install /dev/hda (assuming hda is your boot drive)10:18
tomaczecall this legal departments... did anyone asked about the windoze installer?10:18
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rc55thomas: it seems fine to me. i have to manually mount hde1 though using Discs Manager10:18
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VegetaI'm a newbie to this, so I thought that the root, was a partition where the linux kernel should be installed?10:19
backlittomaczec: you see what i mean? i can't understand a word of that?!?!?10:19
thomasmagnet: i have been trying to expand my root partition. I have adjoining freespace I want to take advantage of. Should I use the livecd, mount both partitions, and use gparted?10:19
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magnetVegeta: not always, some people make a /boot partition10:19
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VegetaOk... Btw, isn't is there that I have to create the SWAP? By choosing Filesystem: linux-swap?10:19
thomasrc55: but it does mount..10:19
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dicesquirrelbacklit: at what point in the process should I use that command?10:19
thomasrc55: that is odd.10:19
rc55thomas: yeah, it mounts fine10:19
tomaczecbacklit: i cant see.10:20
magnetthomas: you shouldn't try to expand your partition :)10:20
magnetthomas: you can't just "expand it"10:20
dicesquirrelbacklit: after I install windows, when I boot from the Ubuntu install CD again?10:20
backlitdicesquirrel: once you want to be able to boot into linux, boot the livecd, then run that command10:20
backlitdicesquirrel: you got it10:20
dicesquirrelbacklit: gotcha10:20
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rsaHi i have a apache2 server error, i restarted it Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name. Anyone got a sggestion howto fix?10:20
rc55thomas: should i post this to the forums instead?10:20
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thomasmagnet: even if I copy it's contents into a tar file, use the livecd to delete the root partition and create a larger root partition?10:20
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thomasrc55: yeah ladydoor was right.10:21
magnetthomas: that you can do, but it's not "extanding", it's copying elsewhere and creating a new partition :)10:21
thomasrc55: post the link here.10:21
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backlitmagnet: are you going to be on later tonight (like 3-4 hours or so?)10:21
magnetthomas: tar files take some time, you may try to use cp -ar10:21
Cunnhello, I really don't know if this is the right place to ask for help, I'm a newbie to ubuntu and linux. Anybody can help me making my soundcard work? I've already tried every single howto I found. It's an Intel soundcard, snd-hda-intel drive, Toshiba laptop, harman-kardon speakers, newest alsa drivers installed... please...10:21
thomasmagnet: i know, but I don't see any other way.10:21
J_Phey all, what is better processor if I install ubuntu for 32bits (not amd64) : P4 HT 2mb or P4 D HT 2mb ?10:21
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magnetbacklit: nope, it's already late here10:21
backlitmagnet: cuz i want to pick your brain10:21
backlitmagnet: i'll pick your brain later then :)10:21
magnetthomas: this is indeed the only way. the best way is to think of partitionn sizes at the install stage ;)10:22
thomasmagnet: I could copy the whole tree to another drive, minus the drive's mountpoint. I have the room... would that work?10:22
Gevaudan82Does anyone happen to know how to generate certificates for dovecot? right now i have smtp auth/tls working fine but the certificate refers to my hostname on my lan not my public facing ip...i've done this for postfix already following a tutorial but i'm not sure where to begin on dovecot10:22
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magnetthomas: yes10:22
Adamthis processor I got says Intel EM64T supports 64 bit computing so can I use 64 bit linux operating systems?10:22
thomasmagnet: i had a very small windows installation set up just in case for down the road... that was before I discovered vmware player.10:22
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backliti have always had great like with partition magic, but i have heard many horror stories about it destroying drives10:22
tomaczeci have a dream -> ibm says yes to foss.10:22
Paddy_EIREis there anything that I can do in ubuntu to improve the performance speed/download rate of bittorrent10:23
backliti once resized every partition on my winxp htpc inlcuding the active boot partition, and it worked fine10:23
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thomasPaddy_EIRE: ubuntu goes full speed. your torrent might be slow.10:23
Vegetamagnet: Will the swap have to be created at that place? That is where I create the partitions?10:23
magnetthomas: but you should create a new / part, mount your old / to say /oldroot , mount the partition you want to copy the data to on /backup, and then cp -ar /oldroot/ /backup10:23
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magnetthomas: or else the recursive goodness of cp may cause some problems :)10:24
magnetthomas: (the same goes with tar)10:24
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thomasmagnet: i could use a partition magic livecd i have.10:24
magnetVegeta: what do you mean? you have to create the swap by yourself10:24
thomasmagnet: i just remembered having it.10:24
magnetthomas: that's a solution, if you trust pqmagic :)10:24
tomaczecthe man i dislike most: rms <-- and yes, that makes sense.10:24
thomasmagnet: they haven't screwed me yet.10:25
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J_Phey all, where I see list of packages the next realease of ubuntu ?10:25
thomasmagnet: and I would still be copying the root to another drive just in case.10:25
magnettomaczec: the people i dislike the most : so called free software / open source enthusiasts with an anti-rms stance10:25
errorHI10:25
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thomasJ_P: google edge eft package tree.10:25
Paddy_EIRE<thomas> the file im getting has 189 seeders and 79 leechers my upload rate is set to 15 kbs and im only getting 3.17 download rate....I have a 1.1mb connection10:25
Vegetamagnet: Yes. At the installation process, you can choose to partition the hd manually, is it there where the swap has to be created?10:25
J_Pthomas: what ?10:25
magnetthomas: well you've understood the basics, so go for it anyway ;)10:26
J_Pthomas: one time there are the page in ubuntulinux.com10:26
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tomaczecmagnet: sorry for that.10:26
magnetVegeta: if you do it manually, yes10:26
thomasJ_P: google edge eft package tree.10:26
thomasedgy*10:26
thomassorry.10:26
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sysdocgood idea10:27
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magnetand once the beer is empty, I'll be leaving (so if you had any question backlit, go for it :))10:27
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tomaczecmagnet: what about Linus' stand?10:27
Vegetamagnet: So how do I create /usr, /var, /home and ect..? Aren't they partitions?10:28
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errorthere is some1 who knows nice games :(10:28
magnettomaczec: I don't like it10:28
lassegshello. i have a problem with my fglrx driver. I cant get openGL direct rendering and 3d acceleration to work. I've done this lots of times before with the same computer and the same dist, but now it just doesnt work. Please take a look at my xorg.conf and help me troubleshoot it. http://pastebin.ca/164634.10:28
J_Pthomas: nothing thats links point to ubuntu page..10:28
lassegsI've been troubling with this for almost a month now, and noone wants to help me10:28
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fyrestrtrVegeta: they are not partitions, don't worry about them, the system will take care of it.10:28
ChaosFanVegeta: these are directories and may thus be moint points for partitions10:28
magnetVegeta: you could see them as partitions, but there are two different concepts here10:28
thomasJ_P: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft10:29
tomaczecmagnet: erm, yoou got an idea?10:29
tomaczecmagnet: erm, you got an idea?10:29
magnettomaczec: an idea on? :)10:29
Neo8750edgy is fun10:29
J_Pthomas: ahh ! Now is ok :-)10:29
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jwl007grr i think it is a fruitless attempt to get wireless working in dapper10:30
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thomasVegeta: Linux works like this, it is a tree. On the root partition is the folder /. inside the / folder is where all other partitions are located.10:30
Fuzzlol10:30
ChaosFanjwl007: depends... if your chipset is supported, then no10:30
tomaczecmagnet: well... this clash in the idea about gpl.10:30
jwl007it supposedly is prism 210:31
magnettomaczec: as long as Linus does his kernel stuff, it's all good. I don't like it when he uses his notoriety for concerns he shouldn't speak about; and he's pretty lame with the GPL3, but anyway I'm not sure this is the right channel for such discussions :)10:31
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Vegetaok..10:31
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ChaosFanVegeta: that's also kind of wrong10:31
errormaby there are some netherlands in here10:31
thomasLinus is a pimp though.10:31
fyrestrtrmagnet: it most definately is not10:31
ChaosFanVegeta: you have a directory tree, with / being the root10:31
jwl007i have a gateway wbm-120 pcmcia wireless nic, but i can't find any windows drivers that work for ndiswrapper10:31
ChaosFanVegeta: and you may mount partitions to reside in any directory you desire10:32
jwl007the fcc-id was no help either10:32
VegetaSo where does all the stuff about partitions come in?10:32
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magnetbacklit: still around?10:32
tomaczecmagnet: what #?10:32
backlitmagnet: indeed10:32
magnetbacklit: do you still need my brain? :)10:32
ChaosFanVegeta: you have the option of partitioning your drive. to access these partitions, you have to mount them somewhere in your directory tree10:33
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magnettomaczec: don't know, #linux-trolls maybe? ;)10:33
backlitmagnet: later, i'm taking off from work in like 10 min, i'll catch you later on10:33
Aagnihi all.. i've landed myself in a mess :(10:33
magnetbacklit: i'm leaving very soon10:33
fyrestrtrVegeta: /var /home /etc are all directories. You can *optionally* mount them in a separate partition, but most people new to linux have no need for htat.10:33
J_Pthomas: sorry, but in taht page not show package list in Edgy... :-(10:33
backlitmagnet: forever?10:33
tomaczecmagnet: so -> how i should discuss it?10:33
backlitmagnet: i plan to become a regular on this channel :)10:33
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fyrestrtr!software > J_P10:33
magnetbacklit: I don't know, I come and go ;)10:33
finalbetalm-sensors doesn't show HD temps? Anyone knows a tools that can? Perhaps also using the lm-sensors10:33
magnetbacklit: I'm not a regular, this channel sucks time10:34
fyrestrtrfinalbeta: if your motherboard doesn't have that sensor, its not going to show it.10:34
backlitmagnet: do you do im (aim/jabber/msn/whatever)?10:34
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VegetaBut arent dirocteries supposed to be "under" the partition?10:34
magnetbacklit: jabber10:34
J_Pthomas: thanks agaim!10:34
ChaosFanVegeta: no10:34
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fyrestrtrVegeta: yes, and the installer will set all that up for you.10:34
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backlitmagnet: i have to set up a jabber account, msg me your jabber address and i'll add you this evening?10:35
Fuzzok now im screwed tbh10:35
fyrestrtrVegeta: directories are in a file system, the file system is created on a partition.10:35
magnettomaczec: I don't know, but I do know that I'm leaving now :)10:35
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magnetbacklit: ok10:35
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ChaosFanand the partition is mounted to a directory10:35
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thomasits backwards from windows. But it's also older than windows.10:36
Fuzzi was installing the fglrx drivers n stuff according to the guide and now everything got messed up10:36
fyrestrtrChaosFan: don't use the word 'directory'. Use the word 'mount point'10:36
VegetaIsn't a partition just a "piece" of the hd?10:36
Fuzzmy ubuntu shell isnt working ryt10:36
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ChaosFanfyrestrtr: directories _are_ mount points...10:36
tomaczeclinus and rms suck... iimho10:36
VegetaSo what exactly is "mount point"..??? :S10:36
fyrestrtrVegeta: partitions are logical divisions of a disk. They allow the operating system to create file systems.10:36
fyrestrtrChaosFan: for our new windows friends, lets not confuse them ;)10:36
ChaosFanfyrestrtr: ok, ok ;)10:36
magnetVegeta: it is the directory onto which you'll "mount" a partition10:37
fyrestrtrVegeta: its a location where a device is attached.  You have to 'mount', that is, attach a device to a location on your system so you can access it. This location is called a mount point.10:37
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VegetaBut we are talking about dividing the drive into pieces. Just like you would get C: and D: in windows if you divided the drive in 2 partitions.. right?10:37
JowiVegeta: a directory/folder where you mount something, such as a harddisk partition.10:37
ChaosFanfyrestrtr: the lecture i heard about operating systems has very nice graphs in it explaining that stuff... it's in german, though :-(10:37
thomasVegeta: a mount point is a folder in the abstract / tree.10:37
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JowiVegeta: like E: for the cd-rom drive in windows (not exactly but close enough)10:38
thomasVegeta: instead of C: and D: you are able to decide where you want the contents of each partition AS A FOLDER anywhere in the / tree.10:38
fyrestrtrVegeta: look it up in wikipedia :)10:38
tomaczeclinus has a nice face/house, rms has a nice beard... the prob is -> they both do not rock when it comes to snowboarding... cuz snowboarders rock to death.10:38
optimusprimeI just downloaded wine.....and I can't find it anywhere...10:38
thomasVegeta: do you understand now??10:38
Agnineed help with undoing some bastille mess10:39
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der0bthomas: the problem I was having was that kde was theming gtk apps.  once I disabled that, Gnome stopped crashing on theme change.10:39
fyrestrtroptimusprime: you can just install it -- sudo apt-get install wine10:39
Vegetaahhh.. So you can create partitions almost like you create folders???10:39
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der0bthomas: (I used to be mds)10:39
Agnii cant get my X to start now10:39
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optimusprimethat's what I did10:39
thomasder0b: i figured. glad you fixed your problem.10:39
fyrestrtrVegeta: no, not really. A partition and a folder are to different things. If you create a folder, you are not creating partitions.10:39
thomasder0b: i don't use KDE so I couldn't help you as much as i would have wanted.10:39
ChaosFanVegeta: no, a partition is still the same thing as it is in windows.10:40
JowiVegeta: no, they are separate. you can create a partition then mount it to a folder of your choice10:40
Agnii just keeps trying to restart in a loop10:40
der0bthomas: maybe you know how I can convince gnome to change the font on the gnome menus?10:40
Vegetafyrestrtr: I tried googling around, but it's hard to find something you know what is :P10:40
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thomasfyrestrtr: i was explaining that the CONTENTS of each partition are displayed as FOLDERS anywhere you want inside the / tree.10:40
Fuzzuhm can someone help me?10:40
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thomasder0b: in system/preferences/fonts10:41
VegetaBut can I create the partitions after the installation of ubuntu?10:41
Fuzzi was installing the fglrx drivers n stuff according to the guide and now everything got messed up10:41
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ChaosFanVegeta: you may if you have unused disk space10:41
JowiVegeta: you can for example mount your floppy to /media/floppy or /myfolder. in linux it doesn't make much difference. in windows the floppy is always A: or B:10:41
der0bthomas: yeah, I think kde might be messing with that too..  I'm ablt to change the fonts everywhere but the menu :(10:41
fyrestrtrVegeta: look at it this way. Just like you create partitions in Windows, you create partitions in Linux. However, unlike Windows, there is no concept of 'drives'. When you create a partition, you don't get a letter like E: or G: -- a partition, in order for it to be accessible, must be attached to a location on the main tree. This location is called the mount point.10:41
Fuzzmy ubuntu isnt working and i did loads of stuff to try to get it to work10:41
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VegetaWIth unused do you mean like when they say, unalocated?10:41
ShastaMaroonHas anyone been able to configure a broadcom 43xx wireless chipset?10:41
fyrestrtrVegeta: it looks like a folder, but you need to give a name to a place where you will attach the partition, so its easier to access.10:41
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ChaosFanVegeta: exactly10:42
thomasVegeta: Once you understand how the / tree works, you will have a much easier time using linux. Its a completely different concept from windows, and it will take some getting used to.10:42
finalbetafyrestrtr, apparently lm sensors doesn't do the hd temps, need apt-get install hddtemp10:42
nick_does anyone know if edgy eft will have compiz and XGL enabled by default?10:42
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thomasnick_: absolutely not.10:42
joeljkpso i'm new to bluetooth: do i need a passkey/pin for my bluetooth mouse?10:42
fyrestrtrnick_: nope.10:42
thomasnick_: compiz is alpha software.10:42
corsairHey there.  Anyone know of a good fully featured bit torrent client that is not java based like Azureus (annoyingly cpu intensive).10:42
LysitI've been looking for 4 hours corsair, the answer is no:(10:43
thomasnick_: and even if compiz were stable, not everybody has the graphics power to handle compiz.10:43
magnetcorsair: I heard that utorrent is good10:43
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nick_i think ive read somewhere that ATI 9000 and up will support 3D10:43
Lysitutorrent only runs through wine10:43
thomaslater backlit.10:43
magnetI use btlaunchmanycurses ;)10:43
corsairLysit: same here.10:43
Jowithomas, nick_ : like me. C3 cpu with cle266 graphics :-/10:43
corsairisnt utorrent windows only?10:43
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Lysityup10:43
wthwwhallo10:43
Neo8750how does one go about searching packages by the files the will install ?10:43
thomasnick_: ATI 9250 and up support compiz.10:43
magnetoh, I didn't know, I don't use it :)10:43
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enycNeo8750: hrrm well... for already installed packagess.. you can use dlocate10:44
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nick_thanks thomas.....my laptop is usless :(10:44
Neo8750for not installed10:44
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enycNeo8750: install 'dlocate' and you well see what I mean10:44
Lysitflux-box would be perfect if I could get auto downloading from rss feeds:/10:44
thomasNeo8750: in synaptic, search by Provides...10:44
corsairi have it on my laptop and it rocks, just dont have the money to spend on cendaga to make it work in linux10:44
JowiNeo8750: "dpkg -L packagename" will give you what it has already installed10:44
Lysitfluxtorrent I mean10:44
Neo8750k10:44
enycNeo8750: i think you can do that for ubuntu official package repositories  via the  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ interface10:44
mbvoI'm trying to copy my files from my windows hdd to my linux hdd(/var/www) but it's telling me i don't have permisions to access that folder.  how do i do it from the terminal(I'm logged into the root account)?10:45
thomasmbvo: copy the contents into your home directory.10:45
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mbvoi want the contents in the /var/www directory though10:45
thomasmbvo: use cp -R /path/to/windows /var/www running as root.10:46
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nick_thomas: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL  it says ATI 9000 supported10:46
Jowimbvo: if you are root or using sudo you should not get a permission denied error10:46
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thomasnick_: it isn't. look on the compiz site.10:46
Deeahhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TGljnZ74.html , I tried to sudo apt-get buld-dep xchat-gnome, and it did not work. What is wrong?10:46
mbvoi got the error in not using the terminal10:46
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VegetaOk, I think I understand little more now. So under the installation, when I choose automatically partition, and it gives me 2 partitions "partition #1 on /dev/hda as ext3" and "partition #5 on /dev/hda as swap", I can later add "subpartitions" under "partition #1". So if something goes wrong in one "subpartition" it can be "formated"???10:47
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corsairnick_: I have read the same thing but its not true.  From what I gather you ineed a 9800 atleast.10:47
lazzarellois the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?10:47
thomasmbvo: what does this error say?10:47
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nick_thomas: is there anything i could do to make my desktop transparent and look cool?10:47
Jowimbvo: that is normal. you should not use nautilus with root permissions10:47
fyrestrtrVegeta: yeah, something like that.10:47
[b] urkhello10:47
bary_hey guys...i'am new to linux ...can any1 help me out with a problem?10:47
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corsairwhat the problem bary10:47
ladydoor!anyone10:48
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:48
Deeahbary_: I don't think anyone can help you if you do not ask a question.10:48
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Jowibary_: give a full description and someone probably will10:48
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EVRAMPbary_ just ask10:48
rsay0 bitches10:48
rsa got a question for y010:48
nick_corsair: thanks for that info10:48
ladydoor!language10:48
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:48
thomasVegeta: /dev/hda is point at which the partition is mounted. it is just a name for the partition. one partition will mount as /, the other will mount as /home.10:48
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corsairnp nick10:48
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tomaczecbary_: i will look at you. tell me.10:48
Neo8750this channel makes me want to make my terminal window bigger10:48
mjrnick_, aiglx instead of xgl, though they're both experimental10:48
bary_i want to see the partition that use linux10:48
bary_i wanna get some music from there10:49
JowiNeo8750: 903 users will do that to you ;)10:49
eaglescoutCan somebody help me install a program?  I'm new and need help.10:49
Vegetathomas: So basically I only have 1 partition (2 with swap)??10:49
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nick_aiglx...isn't that mostly supported with nvidia drivers10:49
AbstIs it possible to make my box start in console mode (so I login using console as in Ctrl Alt F1) but then I can start xwindows from within?10:49
thomasbary_: can you elaborate?10:49
mjrnick_, no10:49
Blissexeaglescout: that is usually a not very good type of request...10:49
[b] urkim having problems writing to my fat-partition, i have mounted it with rw, but it still wont work :(10:49
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corsairnick_: no, glx is for nivia aiglx is for ati10:49
lazzarellois the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?10:49
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thomascorsair no thats incorrect.10:50
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nick_mjr: how hard is it to install that...is there a guide you know about10:50
Jowibary_: "fdisk -l" in a terminal. you will see it clearly10:50
eaglescoutokay, I just don't know how to install programs in Linux and it didn't come with instructions. -_-10:50
Blissexeaglescout: for two reasons: ask questions directly to the channel with details, someone may answer. 2) usually it is best to ask where to find information. Step-by-step is a bad idea.10:50
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burkim having problems writing to my fat-partition, i have mounted it with rw, but it still wont work :(10:50
corsairreally?10:50
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Blissexeaglescout: ahhhh ok.10:50
thomaseaglescout: applications/Add/Remove10:50
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mbvohow do i rename a folder? it's thinking the space in program files is the division between the perammiters10:50
magnetburk: mount it with the good gid10:50
eaglescoutthanks10:50
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corsairthomas: im just going by what Ive see.. it seems like aiglx is only mentioned in the howtos for ATI cards10:50
morbid88lupine_85: Man, I can't believe this.10:50
bary_thomas: sorry i got disconnected10:51
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Lysitmbvo: from gui right lick then rename10:51
Blissexeaglescout: Ubuntu uses a system called APT, which you can use via various programs like the one mentioned by <thomas>. Or Synaptic or Aptitude or 'apt-get'.10:51
Jowiburk: you will need to add umask=000 to /etc/fstab10:51
MrPantsmbvo: just move the folder into the same directory and change the name (if you're using command line)10:51
thomascorsair: will thats incorrect.10:51
mbvorename option is greyes10:51
mbvogreyed*10:51
bary_thomas: look i've try this command but nothing happend gksudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow10:51
tomaczec'adept'10:51
Jowiburk: like this "/dev/hda7       /media/windows      vfat    defaults,user,umask=000        0       010:51
Lysityou might not have permission to change the name of that folder10:51
morbid88lupine_85: It's worse than I had thought. It's a combination 1D-10-T Rectal Cavity Between Chair and Keyboard ERROR.10:51
thomas!apt > eaglescout10:51
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corsairthomas: is ther an advantage to using the aiglx instead? What the difference?10:52
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burkJowi, now it is umask=007, and i have another fat partition mounted in the exact same way, and that one works, but not this one.. ?10:52
rsaalright me biatches me got a little problemo:10:52
Xpherebeastanyone here? cuz i have major problem10:52
magnetJowi: gid=4610:52
MrPantsdoes anyone know how to fix LinuxDC++ slowdown??10:52
thomascorsair: it is my understanding aiglx works better with intel graphics chipsets.10:52
burkmagnet, my gid is 4410:53
corsairthomas ah ok10:53
finalbetaI removed the bottom panel from the desktop, how can I place it back?10:53
Xpherebeastwhat is gid?10:53
lazzarellois the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?10:53
Xpherebeastah10:53
jake1i need some help with something10:53
jake1!pastebin10:53
burkmagnet, sorry its is 46, youre correct10:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:53
magnetburk: aren't you in plugdev (46)10:53
corsairxpherebeast group id10:53
Jowimagnet: what is group 46 on your system?10:53
Xpherebeastwell my ubuntu will not show correctly at startup10:53
thomasrsa: nobody is going to help you speaking like that.10:53
morbid88lupine_85: so just to let you know -- it had absolutely nothing to do with ipw3945. The manual listed it as such, but it only now occured to me to check which driver WINDOWS installed. And guess what -- it's something completely different! So I found the drivers and they work flawlessly.10:53
magnetall ubuntu users are in plugdev when you add them with the GUI10:53
Xpherebeastlike its trying to boot agp but its pci10:54
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morbid88!plugdev10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plugdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
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MrPantsi've been trying to get help for more then an hour but nobody is really responding10:54
OmniD_Would anyone know how to install libtools10:54
thomasrsa: people are here answering questions because they are nice people. treat them likewise, and they'll be glad to help you.10:54
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nick_ok thomas and corsair....i'll just keep to what i have and not play around w/ aiglx and XGL10:54
Xpherebeastplease someone pm me and help me10:54
burkmagnet, i am in plugdev, and the disk is mounted with gid 46, but i still dont have write-rights after doing mount-a10:54
burkmount -a*10:54
rsaalrighty than this is me problemo10:54
thomasnick_: hold on10:54
rsa* Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   apache2: Could  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName* Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...10:54
thomasnick_: what do you have10:54
jake1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2294510:54
rsacan anybody help me with that?10:54
thomas!pastebin10:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:54
jake1read that terminal output10:54
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Seveasrsa, that's harmless10:54
nick_i have ati mobility 900010:54
thomasrsa post it to a pastebin.10:54
jake1i'm trying to get Wine to work10:54
OmniD!libtools > OmniD10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libtools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
fyrestrtrrsa: that's not even a problem.10:54
jake1first it says something about freetype10:54
Jowiburk: umask=000 for vfat does it for me. on all users (maybe not what you want though)10:55
Crazedyea10:55
corsairnick_: it is alot of fun although I have to say it works great with nvidia cards.  Im using a FX5600 ultra and it is super nice10:55
magnetburk: is the mountpoint chmod g+w?10:55
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jake1and then it mentions my Xserver10:55
Xpherebeastpm me to help me please10:55
rsaseveas: well apache2 doesnt work becuz of it10:55
thomas!package libtools > OmniD10:55
Seveasrsa, no10:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about package libtools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:55
thomasgrr...10:55
rsarealy it doesnt work10:55
Seveasif apache doesn't work, then that has another reason10:55
corsairnick_: its a cheap card10:55
rsawhen i logon i get that10:55
mzelemdoes anyone know how to test a serial port and see if it's working?10:55
bary_!thomas help10:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thomas help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:55
rsanothing els10:55
XpherebeastMy geforce 6800 gs and ubuntu do not mix10:55
nick_corsair: i have it in my laptop, i can't swap it10:55
bary_thomas ...10:55
Xpherebeastwhat do i do10:55
thomasbary_: don't bother. ubotu and I aren't getting along.10:56
SeveasXpherebeast, buy ati10:56
jake1any ideas of what is happening10:56
rsaseveas what could it be than?10:56
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Xpherebeastlol10:56
Xpherebeastno10:56
thomasSeveas: thats right!10:56
Xpherebeasti like nvidia10:56
Neo8750woohoo i got it10:56
rsaseveas: what could it be than?10:56
Seveasrsa, given that you don't give any information, i don't know10:56
corsairnick_:  I feel your pain.  i have a broadcom wireless on my laptop.. makes it useless in linux10:56
rsawell, seveas what information do you ned about my problem?10:56
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Seveascorsair, bcm43xx works pretty decent10:56
Xpherebeastcan someone help me please>?10:56
mzelemdoes anyone know how to check to see if serial ports are recognized by ubuntu?10:56
Seveasrsa, /var/log/apache/error.log on a pastebin10:57
nick_corsair: hahaha don't get me started with wireless...such a pain10:57
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corsairSeveas not for me... i have tried about every tutorial I can find on the ubuntu forums and nothing works..10:57
Xpherebeastdirect is better anyway10:57
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dimitrihi all10:57
Seveascorsair, do you have a 4318?10:57
Xpherebeasthi10:57
zombieJrHiya10:57
Xpherebeastdimitri can you help me?10:57
zombieJranyone know a good IM client for LiNuX=10:57
zombieJr?10:57
corsairSeveas ya 431810:57
LattywareAnyone here know anything about the Xbox version of Ubuntu (xUbuntu, but not *that* xUbuntu)10:57
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dimitrii have a partitioning query10:57
SeveasXpherebeast, would you please stop repeating....10:57
magnet zombieJr: gajim10:58
jake1can someone help me please?????10:58
thomasLattyware: I have not heard of this. Sounds interesting.10:58
Seveascorsair, yeah, bcm43xx won't work with that - you need ndiswrapper10:58
magnetzombieJr: good client for good protocol :)10:58
rsahold on please serveas, im using cli10:58
zombieJri see10:58
rsahow do you copy a file?10:58
zombieJrgajim10:58
burkmagnet, i did sudo chmod g+w /media/mellom, but no luck10:58
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Jowijake1: have you looked at the wine wiki?10:58
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Jowi!wine10:58
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:58
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corsairseveas, ya been trying to avoid that.. and cant figure out how to get WPA to show up in the network dialog anyway10:58
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LysitLattyware "the" Xbox version or "a" xbox version10:58
burkmagnet, it still shows as owner: root group: root10:59
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zombieJrmagnet: im gonna try it out, thx man10:59
magnetburk: have you umount/remount the disk yet?10:59
jake1yes i have10:59
thomascorsair: you need wpasupplicant10:59
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rsahold on please serveas, im using cli. How do i use a file?10:59
nick_corsair: im using a netgear card with net8180 driver b/c for some reason linksys cards don't work10:59
Seveascorsair, standard network dialog doesn't do wpa, you need network-manager10:59
Lattywarethomas: It is, just I can't get my it to work. Doesn't seem to do anything, I'm presuming it hasn't set up my xbox controlller. And I am too lazy to get out my USB -> XBX cable to test with a mouse and keyboard.10:59
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LattywareLysit: I'm presuming the.10:59
wikijeffHow can I see what version of Gnome I'm using?10:59
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Jowijake1: and #winehq ?10:59
corsairthomas: i know.. it shows installed in synaptic but doenst show up anywhere10:59
rsaseveas: hold on please, im using cli. How do i use a file?10:59
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Seveaswikijeff, system  about gnome10:59
jake1no... didn't know the # existed10:59
Subhumanwikijeff, system-about gnome10:59
jake1i'll go ask there i guess10:59
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rsaseveas: hold on please, im using cli. How do i use a file?10:59
burkheh, thanks magnet ;)11:00
thomasLattyware: the linux kernel has support for xbox controllers. Go to the project site for x-xubuntu.11:00
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magnetburk: solved?11:00
corsairSeveas: humm ill have to look for that... do you happen to have a tut link with instructions for that.11:00
burkyeah, i can write now11:00
LysitLattyware: Think I found it http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu11:00
XpherebeastHow do i get ubuntu to boot the desktop normally with a pci express card?11:00
thomas!wpa11:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:00
Seveascorsair, apt-get install network-manager-gnome11:00
magnetburk: k all good, np :)11:00
AmroWhen installing, I get xserver-org resolution select menu. no matter what i select when i click continue (or go back) it flashes then returns to the same menu. Anyone know what's wrong?11:00
Seveasand reboot (that's the easiest way to start it)11:00
LattywareLysit: Sorry, What?11:00
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burkmagnet, somehow i managed to think that it remounted when i wrote mount -a ;)11:00
wikijeffthanks, is it possible to upgrade to gnome 1.6 now that it's released?11:00
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magnetburk: hehe :)11:01
LattywareI know the Xbox Linux site... I don't get the relevance?11:01
corsairThanks!  Ill start on that then.11:01
LattywareTo my current situation.11:01
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Subhumanwikijeff, yes if you compile it yourself, if your a new linux user i wouldnt suggest doing it.11:01
mcphailwikijeff: gnome 1.6 isn't the latest version :)11:01
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Paddy_EIREhey guys how do i change the theme of the panels is there a name for them??11:01
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Seveaswikijeff, 1.16 you mean and you should wait a few weeks and then upgrade to Ubuntu edgy11:01
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thomasLattyware: this irc channel is for ubuntu being installed on computers. Xxubuntu is variant of ubuntu, and you should seek help from them.11:01
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wikijeffSeveas: ok, thanks11:02
Seveasthomas, this channel supports ubuntu, kubuntu edubuntu and xubuntu...11:02
thomasLattyware: nobody in here is running ubuntu on their xbox right now I can almost guaruntee it. It is not a good place to find help.11:02
mcphailwikijeff: Seveas: 2.1611:02
LattywareYeah, I was just checking to see if it was a really common problem that everyone knew about, quickly.11:02
thomasSeveas: apparently he's found a project to install xubuntu on his xbox.11:02
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Seveasmcphail, ah... indeed 11:02
thomasSeveas: but the controller isn't working.11:02
nzxhey, how do i enable sounds in kopete ?11:02
XpherebeastSeveas can you help me?11:02
SeveasXpherebeast, no11:02
Seveasyou didn't ask a questio11:03
Seveasn11:03
Xpherebeasti asked like 3 times11:03
nzxfound it11:03
Xpherebeastbut i will again11:03
tomaczecare you sure about what this channel is?11:03
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AmroWhen installing, I get xserver-org resolution select menu. no matter what i select when i click continue (or go back) it flashes then returns to the same menu. Anyone know what's wrong?11:03
SeveasXpherebeast, that was before I joined the conversation i think 11:03
Xpherebeastoh11:03
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thomasSeveas: this channel is not supporting an xbox version of ubuntu is it?11:03
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Seveasthomas, no11:03
JowiAmro: what exactly are you running?11:03
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Seveasxboxes are not supported at all by Ubuntu11:03
thomasSeveas: i asked him to seek help at that project's website or irc.11:03
Seveas(though it may work)11:03
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nich0sHey all, is there anyway for me to have a different background for my workspaces?11:04
Amroim installing ubuntu 6.0611:04
Seveasnich0s, with gnome: no11:04
flasherhow can i tell if the opera deb build I've most recently installed is from static or from shared-qt?11:04
XpherebeastMy ubuntu will not boot the desktop normaly it shows funky lines and stuff, when i run the cd the same thing happens unless i select 1024x768, how do i get it to boot normal?11:04
thomasLattyware: however, if you can get it installed, by all means come back and share with us.11:04
magnetflasher: ldd on the binary11:04
LysitSeveas: Neither are toasters, but find one that can run an OS and someone will try and install ubuntu on it:p11:04
Seveasflasher, look at its dependencies11:04
nich0sseveas: What environment would you recommend?11:04
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flashermagnet: what's ldd?11:04
SeveasXpherebeast, select 1024x768 11:04
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Seveasnich0s, gnome11:04
flashermagnet: i may have deleted the.deb already11:04
LysitLattyware try using SSH to install it, it says its supported f2orm the Xubuntu site11:05
JowiAmro: installing 6.06 from which media? resolution is easiest changed with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:05
thomasnich0s: i'd pick gnome or xfce11:05
LattywareSeveas: Some people have made a distro, designed to run on an Xbox, which is made out of Ubuntu, edited to run on an xbox. I know this channel is not for Xbox support, but if someone knew quickly, then it would have helped.11:05
Xpherebeastbut how do i do that when i boot normally there is no selection for it?11:05
flasherSeveas: how do  i see the dependencies?11:05
Jowi!install11:05
magnetflasher: I said the opera binary11:05
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:05
LattywareI was just asking in case.11:05
magnetflasher: not the deb11:05
LattywareI allready have it installed onto my xbox.11:05
flashermagnet: ok. how do i ldd the binary?11:05
SeveasLattyware, true, but with 900 people it's busy enough without xboxes  good luck though!11:05
magnetflasher: you find the opera binary (updatedb && locate opera) then you ldd it11:05
Seveasflasher, apt-cache depends opera11:05
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AmroJowi: im installing from the alternate CD. im not trying to set the res its part of xserver-org config11:05
magnetflasher: ldd opera11:05
thomasLattyware: no harm in trying, but as far as your controller not working, chances of finding the answer in here are slim to none.11:05
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nich0ssudo apt-get install xfce11:06
nich0swhoops11:06
bary_thomas can you help me please?11:06
LattywareI've been using the Xbox version of damn small linux for ages, and I thought i'd try the xbox ubuntu, as I use it on my desktop.11:06
Fuzzuhm hi, i just got the fglrx drivers to work, but it screwed up my dualmonitor11:06
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Fuzzcould someone help me with that?11:06
JowiAmro: if you have problems, chose the vesa driver and the native resolution of your monitor. that should be safe11:06
thomasLattyware: Come back if you can fix your problem. Write a guide in the forums. Share with us.11:06
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reitzellI've got to pull a bunch of (viso) files off a web server. what ap can I use to do this?11:06
thomasbary_: whats up?11:06
LattywareWill do.11:06
JowiAmro: the rest can be changed after you get rid of the screen flicker.11:06
eyequeuereitzell, man wget11:07
flashermagnet: updatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!11:07
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magnetflasher: sudo it11:07
Xpherebeastseveras how do i select 1024x768 when there is no selection for it?11:07
eyequeueflasher, sudo11:07
AmroJowi: i'm only getting resolutions. It wont go past the step. Its not the whole screen flashing, it switches to the progress bar then back to the menu. I know im using safe resolutions11:07
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bary_thomas: i have 2 hards on my pc one with linux and one with window... and i one get some music and music from my other hard the one with window11:07
bary_thomas: windows11:07
reitzellI want to grab the entire site11:07
eyequeuereitzell, man wget11:07
reitzellthousands of files11:07
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thomasbarry_: let me help you privately.11:07
JowiAmro: what options do you get if you go back a step?11:08
erUSULreitzell: wget -r --no-parent url11:08
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tomaczecreitzell: for what reason?11:08
Amrojowi: nothing happens, same as if i hit continue11:08
nich0skde is just ugly and slow, isn't it?11:08
flasherSeveas: i did the apt-cache depens opera command and here is the printout: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22947. please confirm that it is what i think it is, namely shared11:08
Amroseems more like a glitch. i restarted the install, just asking in case it happens again11:08
cello_rasphow i chek for updates/patches thru the commandline?11:08
reitzellI have to move a bunch of network topologie maps from an old server to a new sharepoint11:08
thomasnich0s: some may say that. Other people love KDE.11:09
bie-coolhi11:09
bie-coollam knal11:09
JowiAmro: what kind of hardware do you have? you could try to reboot and specify to disable the framebuffer to see if that helps.11:09
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thomasnich0s: but KDE is a bit more bloated than Gnome or Xfce are.11:09
tomaczecreitzell: no reason11:09
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Seveasflasher, correct11:09
flasherthanks11:09
reitzellyeah the old site is going away and the data needs to be on the new share11:09
eyequeuecello_rasp, sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade11:09
sp0rknich0s, i'm gonna agree with you man.11:10
AmroJowi: I've installed breezy on this machine before. Shouldn't it be capable?11:10
jake1all that chrooting for nothing yesterday11:10
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nich0sthomas: I left windows for the bloat and the tendency to crash every other week11:10
jake1apparently Wine doesn't need chroot on dapper 64-bit11:10
mopflitedoes wine need chroot anywhere?11:10
JowiAmro: reboot the install cd that is. and type in the option to disable framebuffer. Yes, if breezy worked this install should go fine as well. what hardware have you got (motherboard + graphiccard)?11:10
thomasnich0s: gnome is fairly minimal compared to windows or KDE.11:10
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thomasmcbary: i'm trying to help you...11:11
thomasmcbary: doesn't help if you change your name.11:11
Amroits a laptop, presario 2700t. dunno the specifics but it has an ati mobility11:11
nich0sthomas: How would I go about aquiring and installing xfce11:11
tomaczecbadger is released to the trees,,, he likes to groom there.11:11
thomasnich0s: install xfce-desktop11:11
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ACUhow do you start apache server ?11:11
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mopflitenich0s: modern gnome combines functionality with a fairly minimalist approach in some ways - I switched to dapper/gnome recently after four years of using suse with blackbox, and am quite delighted with it11:11
Adamservice start httpd11:11
thomasACU: install apache, then /etc/init.d/apache start11:12
Adamsorry service httpd start11:12
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fildoACU:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart11:12
mopflitein contrast, I can't get on with kde these days - far too cluttered and bloated for my taste11:12
JowiAmro: ok. that's strange. no errors just a blinking screen nomatter if you chose back or continue?11:12
Adamand GAH thats for redhat11:12
nich0smopflite: Thanks for the insight :)11:12
Adamyou can tell what I have resorted to using ;)11:12
mcbarythomas:i've register this nick so i can talk with you on private11:12
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sp0rknich0s, if you really don't want bloat, install ion11:12
fildois it apache2 ?11:12
nich0sthomas: it says I don't have it11:12
fildook11:12
nich0ssp0rk: ion?11:12
thomasACU: what fildo said, my apologies.11:12
reitzelllooks like wget will work. Thanks!11:13
AmroJowi: yes. as i said it mmight be a glitch. it seems to accept the settings then still asks for them again. which is why im reinstalling to see if it happens again, though i asked here in case it was a common problem11:13
mopflitewget rocks11:13
LysitAwww, azureus won't keep running if you stop gnome:(11:13
sp0rknich0s, its an extremely minimalistic window manager11:13
JowiAmro: this is only a guess... wifes laptop had an acpi issue. try to disable that during before setup at the boot menu.11:13
flasherok, i have used the shared_deb of opera build before. but i forgot if i used 6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb or 5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb. can anyone help?11:13
eyequeueAdam, what dir is this "service" command in?11:13
sp0rknich0s, so minimalistic that windows don't exist - it uses frames.  It can be a VERY efficient work environment11:13
tomaczecfildo: how you define 'kde klutter'?11:14
JowiAmro: think you should add "pci=noacpi" or something similar11:14
sp0rknich0s, http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/11:14
cslaterwill folks be offended if I put up a link to some news about my site - instalinux.com ?11:14
mcbarythomas: you will help on channel or on privat?11:14
thomasmcbary i already said privately.11:14
cslaterwe just released a vmware appliance that lets you tweak settings and run a local version11:14
thomasi'm trying to help right now.11:14
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Adameyequeue its for redhat enterprise ignore me I was thinking of a diffrent distro11:14
AmroJowi: add it where?11:14
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JowiAmro: at the boot prompt11:14
mcbarythomas: i dont get any message on privat11:15
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eyequeueAdam, ah, i was trying to track it down here11:15
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Amroer prompt? i get gfxboot11:15
thomasmcbary, then privately message me.11:15
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JowiAmro: you should have some menu options, graphically or text should not make a difference11:16
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thomasmcbary: follow this link. It is the best help you will get.11:16
thomas!samba11:16
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:16
JowiAmro: check at the bottom of the screen when the cd boots11:16
Amroyeah i remember there was an advanced option11:17
Amrobut i cant do that now im reinstalling... if it fails again ill try11:17
abois there a way in the open file dialog of gtk to show previews of pictures?11:17
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tuxtuxciao11:18
grimboyHey hey!11:18
LysitAs seen as azureus doesn't continue running when I stop Gnome display manager is there another bittorrent client that supports downloading torrents from RSS11:18
JowiAmro: even if it does not work now and all you get is a login prompt after the installation finishes. remember "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:18
Boudewijn36ktorrent11:18
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Lysitfor gnome?11:19
Lysitor is it CLI as well?11:19
nozorroabo: some apps have this in their dialogs, gimp for instance11:19
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grimboyLysit, rtorrent with a little python script would do the job.11:19
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LysitAlas, I don't know python11:19
grimboyLysit, (or lang of choice)11:19
grimboyshell scripting?11:20
Amrothanks Jowi. im used to that from installing vcards :) thanks for all your help11:20
Lysitno11:20
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abonozorro... I'm using firefox and need to upload a file the dialog is the OS default... I'm wondering if there is a way around having to browse to the location with nautillus to view11:20
grimboyWhy do you need to be able to download torrents without running firefox.11:20
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grimboyI mean gnome11:20
mcbarythomas: looks pretty easy but i dont have root access11:21
grimboy(Brain fart)11:21
Lysitno gnome=more ram, 70 megs worth infact11:21
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Jowino probs Amro, a few wierd laptop installs has made me soft ;) usually it comes down to acpi or framebuffer. i bet acpi in your case.11:21
superjew9021can someone help me i am using wine to run steam but when it gets half way through the initial update it gives me this message: ERROR unable to open Steam.exe for reading (copying)11:21
nich0sthomas: How do I get and install xfce?11:21
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cslatergoing to go ahead and post this... hope no one gets mad11:21
cslaterhttp://digg.com/linux_unix/Instalinux_now_offers_a_custom_Linux_installation_VMware_appliance11:21
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Boudewijn36heh11:22
nozorroabo: firefox to upload?11:22
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lhdshey there i need to split a folder containing 40 gega to 4.7 gega archive files how to do that? is there a software under linux?/gnome?11:22
nich0sAny one... where can I get xfce and how do I installing once I have it?11:22
abonozorro, yes .. like to attach file (photo) to email11:22
superjew9021can anyone help me11:22
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cslaterlol nich0s11:23
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cslaterlhds - use the split command11:23
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BluhdI've got a problem with autoconf/automake11:23
grimboynich0s, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?11:23
Bluhdwhenever I run aclocal, I get this error:11:23
cslatertar it up into one big tarball and then use split on it11:23
Bluhdmacro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library11:23
fuzzyNeedsHelphow do i install dualmonitor on ubuntu?11:23
nozorroabo: with firefox. you sending a link? i'm confused11:23
administrator!xinecinema11:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xinecinema - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:23
PathagenXxinerama11:24
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administratorfuzzyNeedsHelp: xinerama11:24
administrator!xinerama11:24
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo11:24
nozorroabo: you mean thunderbird perhaps?11:24
administratorfuzzyNeedsHelp: there you go11:24
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administratorlook at that link11:24
abono firefox, to webmail11:24
nich0sYAY, grimboy, you are the winner :)11:24
abonozorro,  no firefox, to webmail (like gmail)11:24
fuzzyNeedsHelpthank you administrator11:24
administratorfuzzyNeedsHelp: you are most welcome11:25
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abonozorro,  no firefox, to webmail (like gmail)  ... you click on "browse" .. you get the dialog ...11:25
grimboyWoo! Do I get a cookie?11:25
PathagenXnich0s, do you mean that you want to email some links to someone?11:25
administratorPathagenX: thanks i have not been here in a while so i am a little rust11:25
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administratorrusty*11:25
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nich0sPathagenX: Umm... wrong person?11:25
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nozorroabo: ah stupid me, never used webmail. :-) -- well use the file manager then for pict previews11:25
nich0sgrimboy, The bot does.11:25
nich0s!bottreat11:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bottreat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
PathagenXadministrator, could you change your name? It is a bit misleading11:26
nich0sgrrr11:26
OskarSi'm trying to install Ubuntu (running livecd right now), but everytime I try, the installation stops at 22%. Can anybody help?11:26
tomaczechow do i make Ubuntu fly airplane... really not.11:26
Bluhdanyone here: I'm having a serious problem regarding development11:26
grimboyHeh...11:26
BluhdI can't run aclocal without getting macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library11:26
administratorPathagenX: this is a registered nick11:26
nich0s!botsnack11:26
ubotuYum!11:26
Bluhder11:26
Bluhd"macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library"11:26
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grimboyWoo.11:26
mopfliteOskarS: that is a common problem - you might want to try the alternate cd11:26
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PathagenXtomaczec, BSD would be better for the wardware in the plane but if you can get an Apache, they are all AMD and Ubuntu will work fine11:26
JowiBluhd: do you have libtool installed?11:27
BluhdJowi, yes11:27
PathagenX*hardware11:27
OskarSmopfilte: download from the homepage?11:27
BluhdJowi: latest version too11:27
ACUhow to start phpMyadmin (or rather where to configure it so I can start it)11:27
nich0sgrimboy: Woo, indeed.11:27
grimboyOskarS, Choose the one that says alternative rather than desktop.11:27
mopfliteOskarS: the alternate cd uses the old textial installer, and seems to work in many instances where the graphical installer used by the livecd fails (as was the case with the machine I am running now, in fact)11:27
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JowiBluhd: try running "sudo ldconfig" and see if you still get that error11:28
OskarSmopflite, grimboy: thanks!11:28
grimboyWhat he said11:28
mopfliteOskarS: kind of, but you need to look for it specifically - what area are you in geographically?11:28
OskarSstockholm11:28
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OskarSswedeb11:28
mopfliteok11:28
mcbaryhow can i log in as root??? i need access to modify a file11:28
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LinuxHelpWhat is, a real gooood ftp client, that supports recursive directory searching?11:28
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administratormcbary: use sudo11:28
BluhdJowi: still getting the error11:28
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nich0smcbary You can use the sudo command to run an editor as root11:28
grimboymcbary, I've got a comic, wait a sec.11:29
administratormcbary: sudo gedit file11:29
mopfliteOskarS: http://ftp.du.se/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ - the alternate cds are listed there11:29
nozorromcbary: or gksu for graph. apps11:29
tomaczecnich0s: they dont know 'root'.11:29
OskarSmopflite: thank you11:29
JowiBluhd: "libtool --version" give you what? 1.5.22?11:29
mopfliteselect the correct one for your architecture of course11:29
grimboymcbary, http://xkcd.com/c149.html11:29
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OskarSwell, obviously ;)11:29
Bluhdmichael@Ubuntu:~$ libtool --version11:29
Bluhdltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.5.22 Debian 1.5.22-2 (1.1220.2.365 2005/12/18 22:14:06)11:29
nich0stomaczec: ...?11:29
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grimboymcbary, That explains it all.11:29
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JowiBluhd: what are you trying to compile?11:30
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BluhdJowi: anything that uses automake/autoconf11:30
JowiBluhd: ouch11:30
BluhdJowi: one of my old projects that used to work fine will now give me that error11:30
juanim trying to run some software but im not sure what this means "To be able to access the programs without problems, you will have to edit the login file for your shell. If you use the C shell, this file is called .cshrc or .tcshrc, and it is located in your home directory." could some1 please explain what i should do?11:30
tomaczecnich0s: dont ask me. it's ubuntu11:30
nich0ssudo apt-get install build-essential11:30
nich0stomaczec: YAY ubuntu11:30
nich0s :P11:30
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FREThey al11:30
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pheonixhey all11:30
mcbarysudo: gedit: command not found11:30
JowiBluhd: you got build-essential installed as well?11:30
TooCooLcan someone please help me..i removed some kind of bar or whatever its called from my panel..it was the 1 which showed icons..example i open limwire it has an icon on the panel..but now i dont have that so when i close a program down it is just minimizing to the panel but i dont see the icon to close it11:31
nich0smcbary: Use nano :)11:31
BluhdJowi: yup11:31
godmasterhello i have a problem with "usplash"11:31
administratormcbary: you can also do : sudo nano file11:31
lhdssplit is not working11:31
grimboyjuan, The file you want to edit is ~/.bashrc11:31
OskarSthanks for the help guys11:31
administratorgodmaster: what kind of problem11:31
grimboyjuan, (Probably)11:31
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nano-loverI love NANO11:31
JowiBluhd: "whereis libtool" is giving you the correct paths?11:31
TooCooLcan someone please gelp me its reckon my head11:31
TooCooLhelp*11:31
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Bluhdlibtool: /usr/bin/libtool /usr/bin/X11/libtool /usr/share/libtool /usr/share/man/man1/libtool.1.gz11:32
grimboyIt's like emacs and vim except for not bloated crap!11:32
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Bluhdjowi: just posted the results11:32
godmasteri dont know how to replace the default boot spalsh screen11:32
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nano-lovergrimboy: Cheers to that. And it's mighty quick too! :)11:32
TooCooLgrimboy,  can u help pls11:32
JowiBluhd: looks fine.11:32
administratorgodmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomization11:32
grimboyTooCooL, Hmm... Right click then click add stuff11:32
nano-lovergodmaster... that is the strangest ... take that back... one of the strangest nicks in exsistance.11:32
TooCooLok11:32
JowiBluhd: maybe your program expects a specific version...?11:32
mcbaryguys please any1 can help? i'm new to linux...just installed11:32
TooCooLim jus not sure what i need to add to panel11:33
grimboyTooCooL, Then find the icony thing11:33
TooCooLto show program icons11:33
BluhdJowi: no, it cfan't be that11:33
sethkgrimboy, nano-lover it makes no sense to compare two programs with totally different goals.11:33
administratorgodmaster: that link should be correct if my memory is correct11:33
TooCooLlol whats it called11:33
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BluhdJowi:  Anjunta IDE will automatically generate stuff like configure and make.am11:33
nozorroTooCooL: Notification Area?11:33
grimboysethk, Yeah I know, I'm just kidding.11:33
BluhdJowi: and it fails through the IDE too11:33
nano-lovermcbary, You can use the command 'sudo nano <filename>'11:33
cybercysti have a question about spellchecking... i am running english and installed the aspell, ispell and myspell spanish modules, how do i get them to work in various programs? gtk, xchat, abiword, etc?11:33
TooCooLnozorro, vty so much mate that fixed it11:33
TooCooLweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee11:33
sethkcybercyst, you don't.11:33
nano-loversethk: But it's fun :P11:33
godmasteryhks administrator11:34
JowiBluhd: anjuta never been stable for me. can't comment on that one :-/11:34
juanthank grimboy11:34
godmasterwhere are y from ?11:34
tomaczecAnjuta sucks... use vim11:34
grimboymcbary, You didn't read the comic, it explains the syntac11:34
TooCooLnozorro, i just didnt know what it was called lol11:34
cybercystsethk, you can't use english and spanish spell checking at the same time?11:34
grimboy*syntax11:34
nano-loverThere was a comic?!?11:34
Bluhdtomaczec: I like graphical editors, not text mode ;)11:34
sethkcybercyst, you can in the open office word processor, but I don't see how to do it with the others11:34
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nozorroTooCooL: np11:34
grimboynano-lover, http://xkcd.com/c149.html - sudo - the comic11:34
TooCooL:)11:34
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tomaczecBlueEagle: you lack.11:35
cybercystsethk, i couldn't get it going in oo either... i even followed all the directions that the wizard threw at me11:35
gnomefreaktomaczec: this is not the place for your opinion on apps.11:35
rixxonany ideas how to run mirc 6.2 on wine? "bad exe format"11:35
nano-lovergrimboy, is that your LJ? may I steal the pic?11:35
JowiBluhd: i test anjuta every 6 months or so. random crashes and failed compiles has made me... ummm... uncertain about it.11:35
grimboynano-lover, Not mine, but it's CC11:35
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sp0rkrixxon, apt-get install xchat11:35
BluhdJowi: Ah. What would you recommend?11:35
sethkcybercyst, do spell check, go into the configuration (i'll look up what the menu says), and add a dictionary11:35
nano-lovergrimboy grrr to them... grr I say!11:35
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JowiBluhd: anyway, does it compile if you do it manually?11:36
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grimboynano-lover, No CC is good, you just have to say where you got it from.11:36
rixxonsp0rk: using irssi and wouldn't switch for anything thank you. just want to do some testing11:36
BluhdJowi: what do you mean manually? do you mean just run gcc with the file?11:36
grimboynano-lover, Friendly licence11:36
sp0rkrixxon, ahhh ;)11:36
sethkcybercyst, when you do spell check off the tools menu, a dialog comes up.  click on options11:36
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nano-lovergrimboy Ok then... :)11:36
Amrobluhd: more likely make11:36
JowiBluhd: for example11:36
Jowimake11:36
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Amrobluhd: chances are you have to sudo ./configure first, dunno what you're trying to compile though11:37
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afm\colowhy would you run configure with root permissions?11:37
afm\colothat's remarkably stupid11:37
tomaczeci agree to rsm... i dont care too much. off.11:37
Amrooops typed sudo make first then didnt remove sudo11:38
cybercystsethk, ok and i added a spanish dictionary under there, and it is selected11:38
JowiBluhd: sorry for leaving you hanging in the dark. need to sleep atm. it's been a looooong week for me.11:38
afm\colowell, you're not supposed to run `make` in root's context, anyway ;)11:38
sethkcybercyst, if a word is in that dictionary, it will not show up as mispelled11:38
afm\colothe "install"-target justifies use of sudo11:38
BluhdJowi: the compile doesn't work any more because I'm missing some sort of file called ".debs/interface.pp" but that's probably something anjunta autogen'd11:38
TooCooLanyone update there gnome...if so did u have compiz etc all installed before the update.,..and did it effect it11:38
Amroafm: i dont care about the specifics. gimme a breal11:38
Amrobreak11:39
grimboyTooCooL, I installed compiz, but then it updated and everything broke.11:39
TooCooLgrimboy, ohh ok that sux11:39
TooCooLlol11:39
misieqi have to cut out a piece of html from a website, starting with specific text and ending with specific text... what tool would be best to do that?11:39
TooCooLi will jus wait for edgy so11:39
afm\coloAmro: well, you're free to get fucked over at some point in the future11:39
juanive added a line ( setenv PATH /usr/bin/:${PATH}". ) as a guide told me to, now when i launch the termincal i get ( bash: setenv: command not found ) as a 1st line11:39
JowiBluhd: sounds like it. does it help you to create a new/empty project and see if *that* works?11:39
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afm\coloi don't enjoy educating the foolish, so "have it your way"11:39
grimboyafm\colo, Don't be an dick.11:39
BluhdJowi: I'll try it.11:39
Amroafm: leave me alone k, i made a mistake oooooo big huge fucking deal11:39
Jack_Sparrow!language11:40
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:40
grimboyAmro, That's what /ignore is for.11:40
TooCooLwill edgy be better with compiz..as in more stable?11:40
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afm\coloTooCooL: depends on upstream compiz development11:40
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TooCooLhmm11:40
nano-lovergrimboy: This site is funny.11:40
afm\colobut genereally speaking, it most probably will ;)11:40
ompaulAmro, chill the langage thanks11:40
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whazillahigh11:40
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juanmisieq from the html? surely any text editor will do.11:40
whazillai kinda messes up my /etc/environment11:40
Amrosorry11:40
root_hey guys i just installed ubuntu but when gnome loads i cant see anything...its all just weird covers, im using a nvidia card11:41
TooCooLanyone got a nice skinned gui and has SS?11:41
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whazillaso how do i restore ... i goot from rescue dvd11:41
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root_is there anyway to force it to be vga mode or something?11:41
grimboynano-lover, Yeah it's one of my favourite webcomics now.11:41
BluhdJowi: the initial autogen.sh failed11:41
whazillabut can't seem to mount my hda in write permission11:41
juanroot_,  have u installed nvidia drivers11:41
misieqjuan: console tool. to autmate the process. i'm smart enough to figure out how to use text editor, if i wanted to use one i woudn't be asking here, eh?11:41
root_juan: the cd installed it11:41
JowiBluhd: so I wouldn't trust anjuta for anything if i were you :P11:41
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sethkAmro, did anyone mention that you made a mistake ?   :)11:41
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Amrohm?11:42
TooCooLanyone know if theres a channel for ppl who are into skinning?11:42
afm\colowhazilla: mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever11:42
whazillaso i can't login using gnome or any other session11:42
LinuxHelpTooCooL, alive or dead?11:42
mcbarycan any1 help me on privat? i really dont know what do i have to do11:42
sethkAmro, never mind11:42
TooCooLhahahaha11:42
whazillawhen i choice xterm session11:42
TooCooLno seriously doh11:42
whazillai get a broken bash11:42
juan!nvidia11:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:42
Jack_SparrowRoot did livecd work for you or did you use alternate cd11:42
sethkmcbary, what to do about what?11:42
root_i used the alternative cd11:43
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TooCooLLinuxHelp, u know any?11:43
whazillanow how do i mount my hda1 on ubuntu live rescue dvd with write permission ?11:43
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sethkwhazilla, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /some/mount/point11:43
whazillathkx11:43
root_i cant start X so i dont know how i would check that site :/11:43
LinuxHelpTooCooL, no sorry11:43
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sethkwhazilla, assuming hda1 has an ext3 file system on it.11:43
TooCooLkk11:43
whazilla:D11:43
root_im in console now11:43
sethkwhazilla, the mount point can be any empty directory11:43
whazillai used -fd11:43
whazilla*fs11:44
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sethkwhazilla, ok, I guess ... :)11:44
root_anyway to start x with vga mode?11:44
Jack_Sparrowroot_:   Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off acpi = no (Solves no mouse problem) pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet11:44
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Jack_Sparrowroot_: to name a few11:44
Jowibye all. time to hit the sack11:44
BluhdJowi: What do you recommend now? Any way to generate some arbitrary aclocal file?11:45
root_thanks11:45
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grimboyJowi, Bye.11:45
BluhdBye jowi11:45
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JowiBluhd: i think your build environment are messed up. purge + reinstall build-essential is my bet (but i'm no expert in this). good luck.11:46
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apecathmm, is it just me or does the last.fm submitter in the latest ubuntu packaged version of amarok not work?11:47
harleypigis there a how to on how to compile 32 bit apps under 64 bit?11:47
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yohan!nvidia11:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:47
sethkharleypig, you just need to use a cross compiler11:48
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sethkharleypig, you can build the compiler to run in the 64 bit environment and build 32 bit code11:48
Gevaudan82Does anyone know how to create non self signed certificates for dovecot? i've tried just about everything and the apt-get version of dovecot does not come with the openssl dovecot wrapper11:48
afm\colo-m32 would be the switch for gcc11:48
harleypigI'm just trying to get a 32 bit mplayer so I can play some wmv9 files11:48
sethkharleypig, the 32 compiler would run in the 64 bit environment, but you would have trouble telling it which libraries to link11:48
OmniD!diff > OmniD11:49
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sethkharleypig, if all the libraries for 32 bit are available, you can use a command line switch with the compiler11:49
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harleypigso, where I would do dpkg-buildpackage with a switch?11:50
afm\coloharleypig: mplayer (or rather ffmpeg) from svn can play WMV9DMO just fine11:51
afm\colowithout any binary deps11:51
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fuzzyNeedsHelphmm well that didnt work lol11:51
QMarioAlso, where can I post my current programming projects?11:51
harleypigso, dl the ffmpeg library from svn and compile from there?11:52
MeTa[AwAy] by eall yoo 811:52
harleypigwhere is the ffmpeg svn?11:52
afm\coloharleypig: check mplayerhq.hu11:52
afm\colothere are snapshots available as well11:52
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harleypigthanks11:52
Neo8750is ti going to make it?11:52
Neo8750lets hope11:52
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harleypigit's the first link on google for ffmpeg svn :] 11:53
mbvois there some tutorial that would tell me how to do the basics in linux terminal(create directories, copy file, delete files, move files, etc.)?11:53
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WD_Raptorhello11:53
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WD_RaptorI have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS x64 and I get an error Kernal Panic!11:53
sethkWD_Raptor, what triggers the error?11:54
WD_Raptornothing11:54
whazillasethk some error on mount ... unable to read superblock11:54
KrakensDenmbvo, there are lots :)11:54
WD_RaptorI select start or install and it says that11:54
mbvowhere?11:54
wthww_hallo11:54
WD_Raptorlive CD11:54
sethkwhazilla, that sounds like it isn't the correct file system type.  you are using -t ext3?  are you sure it is ext3?11:54
harleypighmmm ... I can obviously just do a ./configure && make && make test && sudo make install ... but is that the best way to do this?11:54
KrakensDenmbvo, http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ <- looks good11:55
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afm\coloharleypig: checkinstall is your friend11:55
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KrakensDenmbvo, if you run into specific problems, google is your friend11:55
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yohan!mplayer11:55
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer11:55
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.11:55
whazillasethk it's a loopback11:55
whazillai thought formatted ext311:55
WD_Raptorwhat isi wrong wih my Distro11:55
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harleypigafm\colo: I see it in apt-cache search, what is it?11:55
bluefox83i need a quick command to make a random sound play on my freind's computer...11:55
OmniDlibtools problems yadda yadda11:56
whazillabut i installed as loopback11:56
OmniDhehe loopback11:56
yohan!codec11:56
CromagDKwhazilla: can be ur cpu or mb not supported... checked for HW support of ur HW ?11:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:56
afm\coloharleypig: can create debian, slackware and rpm packages from make-targets installing stuff11:56
CromagDK!codecs11:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:56
yohan!codecs11:56
CromagDK:P11:56
WD_Raptorhola!11:56
whazillathe system runs from the loopback so why wouldn't it be supported ?11:56
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CromagDKoh11:56
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harleypigafm\colo: Ok ... got it installed and reading manpage ...11:57
xopherhow can I compile a non-debian source code with pbuilder?11:57
CromagDKread it as laptop hah11:57
WD_Raptorhelp!11:57
whazillai'm just wondering howto mount it so i can restore th error i created11:57
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sethkwhazilla, it's not unsupported, that's irrelevant11:57
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Jack_SparrowWD_Raptor: Did you have the cd do it's self test for errors11:58
whazillak borg11:58
sethkwhazilla, don't go off on a tangent.  Did you answer my question about ext3?11:58
bluefox83how do i test an alsa installation?11:58
sethkwhazilla, a loopback mount is used with a file, not a partition11:58
whazillait was formatted a loopback on ext311:58
WD_RaptorHelo? I am getting a kernal panic. pLEASE hELP11:58
sethkwhazilla, wait.  it is either hda1, or a loopback.  not both.11:58
whazillait ask me on install11:58
whazillaall i said was11:58
bluefox83i just need a quick command like aplay  > /dev/dsp or something11:58
whazillayes install on loopback11:58
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nozorroWD_Raptor: try alternate CD to install11:58
nozorro!alternate11:59
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.11:59
whazillaso my system raw then ?11:59
WD_Raptornot installing11:59
WD_Raptorlive11:59
Storkmewhere are the default icons of clearlooks located??11:59
Jack_SparrowWD_Raptor: Did you have the cd do it's self test for errors11:59
whazillais ther a way to find out ?11:59
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sethkwhazilla, so it isn't hda1?  why did you say it is hda1?11:59
bamzinhi there. i'm having some trouble when trying to run any flash movie/animation/youtube video on my firefox. when a page has a flash the browser suddenly close without noticing.. im using dapper drake, anyone can help me?11:59
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whazillai only got one hdd i figured it Wanderers it11:59
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whazillaand i can mount it read only11:59
sethkwhazilla, if it is a loopback, it isn't an hd at all11:59
harleypigafm\colo: Ok ... make: *** No rule to make target `config.mak'.11:59
sethkwhazilla, you have to figure out whether you have a disk or not11:59
harleypigLooks like a neat package12:00
harleypigif I can make it work.12:00
whazillak forget the loop ... how do i figur the sys tipe fs ?12:00
sethkharleypig, did you do ./configure?12:00
whazillaharleyg ?12:00
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harleypigoh ... I have to run configure first ...12:00
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lostinccan anyone tell me what dock this is in this screenshot and maybe where to get it? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=41507&file1=41507-1.jpg&file2=41507-2.jpg&file3=41507-3.jpg&name=Cold+Plastic12:00

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