[12:01] <magnet> moparfan90: install openGL
[12:01] <nozorro> Przemcio1978: don't know gwenview, but from the screenshots it's quite similar to gthumb ...
[12:01] <Paddy_EIRE> NAyone know how to restart scim
[12:01] <atze> Does anyone know if there is a sollution yet to the 100% cpu when using an nvidia driver with opengl, it's a widely known bug
[12:01] <moparfan90> i had it working before but i did something trying to install xgl
[12:01] <moparfan90> how to i install it
[12:01] <moparfan90> ....openGL
[12:01] <atze> and I need opengl :(
[12:02] <mwe> !info libgl1-mesa
[12:02] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is extra. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 488 kB
[12:02] <moparfan90> atze, what vid card you have?
[12:02] <Przemcio1978> nozorro: thanks, i'll try gthumb :)
[12:02] <magnet> moparfan90: mwe answered :)
[12:02] <nozorro> Przemcio1978: gthumb is a gnome app
[12:02] <Sarra_> I want to digitally enhance a few pictures I took with my 3 megapixel camera. How would I do so?
[12:02] <moparfan90> thats already installed
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Sarra_: try gimp
[12:02] <atze> moparfan:  	Asus Videokaart PCI-e GeForce 6800GT 256MB DDR3 2xDVI/TV
[12:02] <mcphail> Sarra_: use the GIMP
[12:03] <magnet> btw if you use proprietary drivers, they ship their own openGL lib (using hardware 3d acceleration)
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !gimp
[12:03] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[12:03] <atze> this thing is driving me crazy
[12:03] <crashd> hmm, cinepaint won't install for some reason, complains about libopenexr, anyone got any clues?
[12:03] <Przemcio1978> nozorro: yes, i know
[12:03] <moparfan90> atze, o sry cant help i have a ATI
[12:03] <moparfan90> sarra_, gimp is the same as photoshop
[12:03] <mcphail> Sarra_: the GIMP is capable for any "enhancing" you need to do
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Sarra_: What kind of enhancement?
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Sarra_: Gimp is excellent
[12:04] <geokok> Anyone on popularity contest help????
[12:04] <Sarra_> I took some pictures of distant objects, I'd like to enhance and magnify the pictures past the detail available in the pictures themselves
[12:04] <Przemcio1978> nozorro: both xfce and gnome are gtk2 base, there should be no problem about that
[12:04] <mcphail> Sarra_: you can't
[12:05] <ChaosFan> Sarra_: it's incredibly hard to get information that is nowhere...
[12:05] <Przemcio1978> nozorro: i mean gwenview loads on xfce quite long since it's qt-based, that's the only problem
[12:05] <moparfan90> why are you talking in 3rd person
[12:05] <Sarra_> Put a blurry image into a program that runs an algorythem on it, and it enhances it
[12:05] <nozorro> Przemcio1978: yes of course, but some xfce fans prefer pure gtk2 apps ... that was my line of thinking
[12:05] <mcphail> Sarra_: all you can do is run some interpolation routine, which will make the blockiness a bit smoother. It will _not_ give you any more detail
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Sarra_: That is different
[12:06] <atze> moparfan: i think that's the same bug, with ATI
[12:06] <labj> Hi! I'm new to Ubuntu and I've tried to get a Lexmark X73 combowriter to function together with Ubuntu, but no. Any suggestions?
[12:06] <moparfan90> atze, its not a bug .. i fucked it up.... i dont know how .. was messing with x org before
[12:06] <atze> :)
[12:06] <Garnett> hello
[12:06] <moparfan90> i think im going to reinstall
[12:06] <Garnett> help please
[12:07] <Grok_> how long before we can expect to see Gnome 2.16 in the repositories?
[12:07] <moparfan90> just tell
[12:07] <Przemcio1978> nozorro: we xfce fans haven't got much choice :)
[12:07] <mcphail> Grok_: it will not come into dapper
[12:07] <moparfan90> who not
[12:08] <Przemcio1978> Grok_, compile or wait for edgy :)
[12:08] <Sarra_> mcphail: Looks like you're wrong
[12:08] <Sarra_> http://www.onlypunjab.com/real/fullstory1004-newsID-1357.html
[12:08] <Grok_> mcphail, what would be the easiest way of going about getting it? will there be a .deb package for it?
[12:08] <geokok> Is there a way to check if popcon works???
[12:09] <nozorro> Przemcio1978: there are many other pic viewers, older apps and gtk2-based, but the features are somewhat limited (i remember qiv for instance)
[12:11] <tuxtux> ciao
[12:11] <mcphail> Grok_: wait for edgy
[12:11] <ThatGuy> is it possible to have both gnome and kde installed for ubuntu, and have the choice of the two when you login?
[12:11] <Zorlac> Grok_: what do you grok?
[12:12] <nozorro> ThatGuy: should be possible, selecting a kde/gnome session from gdm login
[12:12] <nozorro> ThatGuy: ... or kdm login for that matter
[12:12] <Zikey> Damn looked everywhere since few hours (net & files) and I don't find where to put binaries to be run at start-up, any one knows ?
[12:12] <ThatGuy> do i need just the kde base packages, or do I need to install kubuntu as well?
[12:12] <Przemcio1978> Grok_: get xfce 4.4 rc1 and you'll forget about gnome :)
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ThatGuy: Yes you can, I have Gnome, KDE and Ice available
[12:13] <chris_> do you guys field general linux questions
[12:13] <mcphail> Sarra_: a poorly constructed press release != a working program or concept
[12:13] <ThatGuy> Jack_sparrow:  what is the best way to do exactly that???
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how i can make shift+3 be the pound sign???
[12:13] <nozorro> ThatGuy: if you just need some kde-based apps, install them using the packaging system, and they will pull in the necessary dependencies; you you need both desktops, i think you just have to install kubuntu-base
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> mcphail: And they never say they actually identified the guy, just that their enhancement shows he might be.
[12:14] <mcphail> Jack_Sparrow: a google search for "fractal digital imaging" only brings up a dozen copies of that press release
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ThatGuy: Someone wil know it.. something like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:15] <ThatGuy> thanks
[12:15] <nozorro> ThatGuy: not kubuntu-base but kubuntu-desktop -- a metapckage which should pull in all the deps for kubuntu
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> mcphail: Agreed, fractals have been discussed for years..
[12:16] <iratsu> i don't see the graphical booting screen with the ubuntu logo when i boot my laptop, is that normal?
[12:16] <jorik> omg nooooo i just lost ALL my mail thx to goddamn fetchmail omg im crying
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[12:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:16] <chris_> when i upgraded to edgy it removed my gedit...so i tried downloading the gedit source and compiling it from scratch.
[12:16] <chris_> However, ./configure errors out because pkg-manager reports that I don't have correct version number of some libraries.  On the command line "pkg-configure --modversion *this* returns a version higher than what I needed.
[12:16] <nozorro> iratsu: what do you see instead?
[12:16] <mwe> jorik: are you sure it didn't save it somewhere?
[12:16] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, when ya get a chance, still need help with this networking stuffs...
[12:16] <PathagenX> linux-686 is what, when concidering linux-2.6.15.26-686 ?
[12:16] <mcphail> chris_: join #ubuntu+1
[12:17] <chris_> my ldconfig file is up to date so i don't know why i can't compile this program
[12:17] <geokok> Is there a way to check if popcon works???
[12:17] <iratsu> nozorro: well it just boots up, printing all the stuff in the screen, but not in orange and without the ubuntu logo
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> I was just headding out to take care of some other business, someone will help you shortly
[12:17] <erUSUL> chris_: why do not just reinstall ubuntu-desktop (or gedit)?? (btw edgy is discused in #ubuntu+1)
[12:17] <mcphail> chris_: edgy is still alpha, expected to break and not supported on this channel
[12:17] <nozorro> iratsu: it did so once or every time you boot up?
[12:17] <Hazarath> Ok, still need help networking my ubuntu box to my Win XP box.
[12:18] <iratsu> nozorro: every time
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: You were trying to access files on a networked computer correct..
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Did you read up on samba..
[12:18] <Hazarath> It's installed, or suppoed to be.
[12:18] <shut-> can someone tell me how i can change from gnome
[12:18] <Hazarath> ^suppoed
[12:18] <iratsu> nozorro: i'm using lilo to boot instead of grub, maybe that has something to do with it?
[12:18] <nozorro> iratsu: maybe the boot process hangs at a specific point -- network devices for instance?
[12:18] <shut-> to a driffrent one
[12:18] <Hazarath> I ran package manager
[12:18] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys this guy has the same bug as me https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1719 am I too supposed to post a bug if so how do i do it
[12:19] <Hazarath> It just doesn't exist on my compy from what I can find.
[12:19] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: if you have the same bug just confirm it with a coment to said bug
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[12:19] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:19] <iratsu> nozorro: no it doesn't hang, it just doesn't show the graphical stuff
[12:20] <nozorro> iratsu: oh lilo, do yourself a favour and use grub. if you use lilo and don't tell it about the boot splash, you won't have one of course. so that's the reason. why lilo anyway?
[12:20] <shut-> ?
[12:20] <TylerDurdener> hey, i changed every binary repository in synaptic to include restricted, official and community, but now it gives me a bunch of errors when i reload, how can i fix that?
[12:20] <cytrak> does dd makes iso images ?
[12:20] <magnet> no cytrak, mkisofs does
[12:20] <ChaosFan> cytrak: yes, you could say so
[12:20] <kevinG> What's the command that lets me change permissions so I can write to a file?
[12:20] <iratsu> nozorro: i'm running it on a macbook
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: Did you try to add any repos or just enable the ones from the original sources.list
[12:21] <ChaosFan> cytrak: if you want to rip a cd
[12:21] <iratsu> nozorro: and running grub on that is harder
[12:21] <cytrak> dvd
[12:21] <shut-> Jack
[12:21] <erUSUL> cytrak: yes if you read from a cdrom device so does cat (cat /dev/hdxx > image.iso)
[12:21] <TylerDurdener> Jack_Sparrow just enabled them from the synaptic GUI
[12:21] <nozorro> iratsu: ahmm, and lilo gets used there by default?
[12:21] <shut-> how can i change from gnome to anther one
[12:21] <magnet> kevinG: chmod +w file
[12:21] <iratsu> nozorro: no, i had to set it up
[12:21] <kevinG> ok
[12:21] <magnet> shut-: sudo apt-get install <what-you-want>-desktop
[12:21] <iratsu> nozorro: the grub install failed
[12:21] <ChaosFan> cytrak: that could be done via dd or cat, yes
 being xubuntu or kubuntu
[12:22] <nozorro> iratsu: hmmm, see.
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: post your sources list to the pastebin so someone can look at it. I really need to go.. FYI... gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:22] <shut-> where can i find all of them
[12:22] <erUSUL> shut-: another one? install kubuntu-desktop (KDE) or xubuntu-desktop (XFCE)
[12:22] <PathagenX> linux-686 is what, when concidering linux-2.6.15.26-686 ?
[12:22] <shut-> ok
[12:22] <magnet> there are 2 others so :) unless you want a desktop non supported by ubuntu (then there are plenty others)
[12:22] <PathagenX> dd if=<cdrom> of=file
[12:23] <iratsu> nozorro: but anyways, the boot splash doesn't really change anything, i just wanted to make sure my installation wasn't incomplete or anything
[12:23] <ChaosFan> PathagenX: 686 is your architecture
[12:23] <PathagenX> yeaaa
[12:23] <TylerDurdener> jack_sparrow http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22863
[12:23] <magnet> PathagenX: linux-686 is a dummy package
[12:23] <PathagenX> a meta package? So it just selects the newest kernel?
would you know how i could manually add the pound sign so it comes up when i press shift+3?
[12:24] <magnet> PathagenX: yes, and it's called a dummy package, not a meta package
[12:24] <PathagenX> woo rtlinux oo
[12:24] <nozorro> iratsu: if it's incomplete you sure will note in other ways in the future... do you get to the gdm login window?
[12:24] <magnet> it depends on what it will redirect you to
[12:24] <PathagenX> ok. Thanks
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: You used Automatix... there is a reason we DONT recommend using that script... Try your question in #Automatix
apart from that my system is extremely stable :)
[12:24] <zax1> why oh why did i ever swith to linux windows was so much easier......
[12:24] <PathagenX> and now to figure out how to reconfig grub.../
[12:25] <magnet> zax1: you're free to go back to windows
[12:25] <iratsu> nozorro: yea everything else seems to work fine
believe me windows is not by any means easier
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > TylerDurdener
basically Nazis
[12:25] <iratsu> nozorro: except wireless, but that seems to be pretty common for macbooks running linux
[12:25] <TylerDurdener> jack_sparrow thanks
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:25] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[12:25] <matthewjames> where can I find ports.conf?
[12:25] <zax1> Paddy_EIRE: its a goodthing you are not proned to exagurations
[12:25] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, I need a network to work first, before I can do what ya suggested.
[12:26] <TylerDurdener> jack_sparrow those errors occured after i checked all the sources in binaries in synaptic, why did it do that?
[12:26] <mcphail> matthewjames: for apache?
[12:26] <magnet> zax1: what's hard with what you call "linux"?
[12:26] <nozorro> iratsu: not only for macs ... my advice would be to stay with lilo atm and try to use grub later on when you have the time/nerve. its documented here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/
[12:26] <matthewjames> yes
[12:26] <zax1> poor driver support
[12:26] <mcphail> matthewjames: /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: Because Automatix.. added unsupported repos
[12:26] <matthewjames> ty alot man
[12:27] <magnet> zax1:  huh? it supports more stuff out of the box than windows
 read up on them and palladium at&t and vista spyware os...not exaggerations!
[12:27] <zax1> magnet: that may be so but maybe not the drivers i need
[12:27] <magnet> zax1: now if you have some hardware coming with a driver CD for windows, complain to the hardware vendor
[12:27] <Paddy_EIRE>  <zax1>anyway what do u expect for free!
[12:27] <Hazarath> zax1, Found a lota stuff XP wouldn't.. my 6.1 sound card, WiFi, everythingf.
[12:27] <zax1> it doesnt support any usb adsl modem i have
[12:27] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: all your arguments are wrong anyway :)
[12:28] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: GNU/linux is just superior :)
[12:28] <lassegs> hi, does anyone know if i can install the newest version of deskbar applet thats in gnome 2.16 on my gnome 2.14 dapper box?
[12:28] <Paddy_EIRE> lol...yep
[12:28] <magnet> no need for Vista to have palladium :)
[12:28] <zax1> Hazarath: maybe , but when u go to the manufacturer site u find an easy to use 2 clicks file 1 restart solution
 i had this prob...i learned the answer
[12:28] <nozorro> zax1 can you connect any of those modems via ethernet too? in that case it should work
 dont use usb modems
[12:28] <magnet> zax1: yeah, because the manufacturer provides drivers for windows; complain to them
 get a LinkSyS and never look back
[12:29] <lupine_85> Globespan USB ADSL modems work
[12:29] <lupine_85> apparently
[12:29] <Hazarath> zax1, wouldn't been able to get my NIC online by default, Win couldn't find, so... how was I able to get the drivers? :3
[12:29] <zax1> magnet: thats what i call easy( which is what u asked)
speedtouch do aswell but setup aint worth the hastle.....LinkSyS and an ethernet card and your flying
[12:30] <Hazarath> zax1, You are fighting a loosing battle, Linux rules.
[12:30] <Hazarath> See ya'll.
[12:30] <zax1> heheh- i aint fighting
[12:30] <zax1> just experimenting
[12:30] <magnet> zax1: yeah but that's not anyhow ubuntu or linux's fault. Why did you install ubuntu in the first place if you had unsupported hardware ?
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> zax1: There is a list of Linux/Ubuntu supported hardware...
[12:31] <berto-> Hello.  With Ubuntu 5.10 I had trouble installing the system on an SATA drive, so I made my root disk an IDE drive.  Is this a problem with 6.06?  I'm about to build a new computer and was wondering if I should get an IDE drive
[12:31] <zax1> magnet: why not ? i wanted to see whats all the hype is all about
i know, i was completely put off by the usb modem prob then i realized they are silly modems anyway why use them .....dont need to install any driver for ethernet
[12:32] <cerberus> I'm having trouble setting up a network between two ubuntu boxes. I've set up the netmask, adderss and network variables in /etc/network/interfaces on both machines but am still unable to ping either machine from the other. Does anyone know what else I need to do?
[12:32] <magnet> zax1: you can hardly understand "what the hype is all about" if you can't get a 100% functionnal system
[12:32] <zax1> i am a system builder and was contemplating switching my default os from xp to kubuntu/ubuntu
[12:32] <ChaosFan> berto-: i didn't have that kind of problem
[12:32] <ChaosFan> with 6.06
you can get a great wifi ethernet router for 60pounds where i am and i can use it on any os and experiment all i want
[12:32] <zax1> but if its such a long and steap learning curve even for the 'experts' what can i expect from the masses who buy my computers
[12:33] <cerberus> berto-, I've not had that problem installing any version of ubuntu on a SATA drive
[12:33] <zax1> magnet: my point exactly
[12:33] <ChaosFan> zax1: choosing the operating system is a matter of personal needs and taste
[12:33] <magnet> cerberus: first, try using a graphical tool instead of editing the interfaces file manually, you'll avoid syntax errors
[12:33] <nozorro> zax1: the way i did it was to use a double-boot system. i started to like linux and over time bought hardware supported by linux whenever upgrading. nowadays everything works like a charm
[12:33] <magnet> cerberus: then, are you sure the two machines are plugged in the good ethernet plug? ;)
[12:33] <cerberus> magnet, that's only an option on one machine, the other only has a server install
[12:33] <zax1> Paddy_EIRE: me too
[12:33] <magnet> cerberus: finally, we can look a the conf :)
[12:33] <magnet> ok cerberus
[12:33] <zax1> here, btw, i thought eire is on a euro system
[12:33] <BlueVoid> Hello-- I'm having difficulty with dual monitors.  I have a Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop with a secondary samsung monitor.  When I first installed ubuntu the display showed up on my laptop screen, then I installed the nVidia drivers (my card is an nVidia card), the screen only showed on my secondary monitor.  Is there a way to get it back to show on my laptop only, or idealy on both?
[12:34] <Dutchy> Is there anyone who has got the HDA Intel sound working?
[12:34] <zax1> unless you are from the orphaned 6 counties up north
when u get ubuntu to a level of stability after a while and then u use windows you just feel dirty...lol
[12:34] <magnet> cerberus: paste your two files (and name the machines) on the pastebin and give the url
[12:35] <netsavy006> Hi.
[12:35] <magnet> hi netsavy006
[12:35] <netsavy006> does anybody here know of/how to use Chroot?
[12:35] <magnet> yep
[12:35] <TylerDurdener> jack_sparrow ok i copy-pasted those repos from the website, and rechecked all the boxes in synaptic to add the restricted and non-free repos as well, reloaded and it gives me the errors again
[12:35] <netsavy006> good
[12:35] <netsavy006> you might be able to help me
[12:35] <netsavy006> I am using Chroot Dapper for testing purposes
[12:35] <berto-> ChaosFan, cerberus: hmm, alright.  that's good news.  could it be that I had multiple drives in the machine and for some reason grub installed on the wrong one?  i've been googling this problem and have seen that scenario pop up.
[12:35] <netsavy006> but I cannot get it to work correctly
[12:36] <magnet> netsavy006: what are you talking about precisely? chroot, the program (shell command), or chroot, the syscall?
[12:36] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~/sources$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.17.11.tar.bz2 /usr/src
[12:36] <fokuslee> Password:
[12:36] <fokuslee> tar: /usr/src: Not found in archive
[12:36] <fokuslee> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[12:36] <magnet> !nopaste
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <fokuslee> can anyone help me with that?
[12:36] <magnet> !paste
[12:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:36] <cerberus> magnet, I've just pasted my config on the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22867
[12:36] <netsavy006> all I know is that I type chroot /chroot/dapper
[12:36] <netsavy006> as a chroot layer.
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: Because Automatix.. probably already hosed up your system.. You need to ask them how to fix it...
[12:36] <matthewjames> hello, how enable ipv4?
although i get a new isp in october and they use usb modems by default as there service requires sign in with username password so i expect this to work although im bitting my nails, although i will push on even without the net for a while if i have to
[12:36] <berto-> sorry, clicked the wrong thing ...
[12:36] <magnet> netsavy006: what's your problem?
[12:37] <magnet> cerberus: 1 sec, i'm looking at it
[12:37] <netsavy006> when I try to install programs I get an erro
[12:37] <netsavy006> error
[12:37] <matthewjames> hello, how enable ipv4?
[12:37] <magnet> cerberus: how are the two machines connected (physically)?
[12:37] <zax1> paddy try going for this : http://h.ip.fi/pics/tyttoe.jpg
[12:37] <netsavy006> I'm thinking I'll have to post the error as a file on the web to be read.
[12:37] <cerberus> through a cross over cable between the two ethernet cards
[12:37] <netsavy006> but I don't know whre to post such a thing.
[12:37] <TylerDurdener> jack_sparrow it isnt automatix, its simply i guess because i already checked boxes that were checked in different locations (sources vs. binary) but im not sure which... at least thats what i think, automatix doesnt overwrite my sources everytime
[12:37] <magnet> matthewjames: on which layer? kernel, userland, etc?
[12:37] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone from the uk here that uses talktalk broadband as their isp??
[12:37] <matthewjames> for an apache server
[12:37] <magnet> cerberus: ok so direct connec, lemme check
[12:38] <magnet> netsavy006: here
[12:38] <magnet> !paste
[12:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:38] <matthewjames> magnet: for an apache server
[12:38] <netsavy006> k
[12:38] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~/sources$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.17.11.tar.bz2 /usr/src
[12:38] <fokuslee> Password:
[12:38] <fokuslee> tar: /usr/src: Not found in archive
[12:38] <fokuslee> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[12:38] <ripper> im seeming to be missing my power button on ubuntu (its not a laptop)
[12:38] <fokuslee> what is wrong?
[12:38] <magnet> matthewjames: just listen on all interfaces (Bind *)
[12:38] <matthewjames> how?
[12:39] <magnet> cerberus: what's your other machine configuration
[12:39] <ripper> i can go to system, and quit, but i cant seem to power the box down, or actually fully reboot it from there
[12:39] <linuxunil> how can i check to see if dri is running
[12:39] <magnet> cerberus: (interfaces file)
[12:39] <modplug> how do i enable direct rendering (nvidia)? - i've installed the driver as explained on ubuntuguide.org
[12:39] <matthewjames> magnet: how?
[12:39] <magnet> !apache
[12:39] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:40] <magnet> that's how :)
[12:40] <linuxunil> i have the drivers install i just don't think it's running and i used to know the command to check but i can't remember
[12:40] <netsavy006> here's where you will find my entery:
[12:40] <netsavy006> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22868
[12:40] <matthewjames> magnet: thats what I installed
[12:40] <magnet> k netsavy006, 2 secs (and highlight me when you're talking to me)
[12:40] <cerberus> pretty much the same except address is set to 192.168.1.2 and there is none of the ppp0 stuff
[12:40] <zax1> Paddy_EIRE: talk talk require signing a contract with them
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: I understand you r sources have been fixed.  But you did use Automatix to install things into your system correct. Those things they installed were not from the Ub repos... Now you have a problem that just fixing the repos will not cure
[12:40] <netsavy006> magnet: k
[12:40] <matthewjames> magnet: when i give my ip address, it does not work
[12:40] <magnet> matthewjames: installing is one thing, setting it up another :)
[12:40] <BlueVoid> anyone?
yeah 18 month, but virtually free broadband
[12:41] <nozorro> fokuslee: not sure, but you could use Archive Manager with sudo to achieve what you want. also use pastebin please to show us larger outputs, its here:
[12:41] <nozorro> !pastebin
[12:41] <matthewjames> what do i needt to set up for apache?
[12:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:41] <magnet> matthewjames: you don't have to "give" your IP, it can find all active interfaces (*Host statement)
[12:41] <tuxtux> notte
[12:41] <zax1> virtualy free?
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> TylerDurdener: I wish you luck... I really, really need to get some work done
[12:41] <TylerDurdener> jack_sparrow i actually just installed the program to take a look at it but didnt use it to install/download anything. well im at the automatix channel but no reply on how to remove it and the repos it made
[12:41] <matthewjames> ok, but what can i give my freinds to go to my site?
[12:41] <TylerDurdener> jack_sparrow np, thanks for helping
 and i can put the sign in details in the linksys so i should be up and running very quickly
[12:41] <matthewjames> magnet: ok, but what can i give my freinds to go to my site?
[12:42] <magnet> cerberus: should work then, are you sure it's a crossover cable?
 http://www.talktalk.co.uk/talktalk/servlet/gben-LLU-PageServer;jsessionid=3D71345DC7C324AA5BE02630E41F748C.sol72-15?article=MAIN.UK.TALKTALK.STATIC.TESTHUB
[12:42] <magnet> matthewjames: your IP or an hostname (no-ip or such), but apache can find out your IP by itself
[12:42] <cerberus> magnet, yes, I've sucessfully used it to link windows machines in past
[12:42] <magnet> matthewjames: can you access your apache webpage locally at least?
[12:42] <matthewjames> i give my ip, no one can connect to it?
[12:42] <matthewjames> yes
for 21 a month i cant go wrong that includes 02 nos and lots more
[12:43] <magnet> cerberus: ok you didn't forget sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:43] <magnet> ?
[12:43] <astroglide> anyone that knows how to use linux properly, please IM me
[12:43] <cerberus> nope, done that
[12:43] <netsavy006> seemings as I'm here (for anybody to answer):  are there any web browsing accelerating 'stuff' as either software or proxy for linux in general?
[12:43] <magnet> matthewjames: are you behind a nat/router?
[12:43] <netsavy006> cuz I know they make google web accelerator for windows 2000/XP
[12:44] <jake1> I'm trying to find a program that can convert Binary to Decimal and Hex...... any suggestions
[12:44] <matthewjames> yes, i forwarded ports 22 and 80
[12:44] <jake1> Octal to Decimal would also be nice
[12:44] <magnet> cerberus: that's weird :) it should work; are you sure your ethernet cards are supported and functional?
[12:44] <nozorro> astroglide: better post your question here, so others could profit from the discussion ...
[12:44] <modplug> how do i enable direct rendering with my nvidia card? - the script doesn't work (on the ubuntuguide.com tutorial)
[12:44] <netsavy006> magnet: have you found anything yet re: chroot prob?
[12:44] <matthewjames> magnet: yes, i forwarded ports 22 and 80
[12:44] <magnet> netsavy006: a sec, i'm looking at it :)
[12:44] <uberspaced> I need some help configuring dhcp3
[12:45] <netsavy006> k
[12:45] <uberspaced> in /etc/default/dhcp3-server i have eth1 listed in the interfaces area
[12:45] <fokuslee> tar: /usr/src: Not found in archive what is the problem with dat?
[12:45] <cerberus> ifconfig recognises them and I can see the one on the box with the full install using System -> Administration -> Networking
[12:45] <magnet> netsavy006: can you copy the url again please? I have the wrong one it seems
 did u see the talktalk then??
[12:46] <magnet> cerberus: no iptables firewall?
[12:46] <netsavy006> magnet:  here it is:  >>   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22868
[12:46] <matthewjames> magnet: yes, i forwarded ports 22 and 80
[12:46] <uberspaced> and my dhcpd.conf is located here:
[12:46] <cerberus> there is a firewall on the box with the full install, Firestarter
[12:46] <magnet> matthewjames: got it the first time :)
[12:46] <uberspaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22869
[12:46] <matthewjames> magnet: ?
[12:47] <magnet> cerberus: check if you don't have to put an exception for your lan
[12:47] <sureshot> i am sorry to not remember the name of the person that helped me but i wanted to think him  for his help i now have my laptop working like it should..  love ubuntu
[12:47] <uberspaced> I ran /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start
[12:47] <uberspaced> and it just 'failed'
[12:47] <magnet> matthewjames: well it should work, a sec
[12:47] <matthewjames> magnet: ok
[12:48] <magnet> cerberus: netsavy006 ok I know what to do for your prob, a sec :)
[12:48] <netsavy006> magnet: ok
[12:48] <uberspaced> does anybody know where dhcpd stores its log files?
[12:48] <netsavy006> magnet:  take your time
[12:48] <ripper> im missing a bunch of stuff in my gncof-editor
[12:48] <magnet> thanks!  :)
[12:48] <ripper> how can i fix this?
[12:48] <mcphail> matthewjames: what does your /etc/apache2/ports.conf say?
[12:48] <matthewjames> ports.conf aint in there
[12:49] <mcphail> matthewjames: are you running apache or apache2?
[12:49] <magnet> netsavy006: what you want is launching synaptic from the chroot, right? you don't care for the locales problem yet (which is nothing, falling back to C local is not really a problem)
[12:49] <magnet> s/local/locale
[12:49] <iMeow> i've got a bit of a question: i'm trying to create launchers on my desktop to start/stop XAMPP, but i'm not sure how to proceed.. i mean i created the launchers, they should work, but the only problem is that i have to be root to start/stop XAMPP.. so how do i make my launcher ask me for root password?
[12:49] <magnet> matthewjames: are you using apache1 or apache2 ?
[12:49] <iMeow> instead of just failing?
[12:49] <matthewjames> magnet: its in etc/cups.d
[12:49] <netsavy006> magnet:  yes but for some reason nothing will start up at all
[12:49] <netsavy006> cuz I get a display error too.
[12:49] <magnet> matthewjames: uh, cups.d and apache have nothing in common ;)
[12:49] <netsavy006> magnet:  (synaptic:21691): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:50] <saeal> Hey guys I have a quetions about ubuntu and resolutions
[12:50] <nozorro> iMeow: you just prepend 'gksu' to the command proper in the launcher config
[12:50] <netsavy006> magnet:  and I checked and gtk 1.2 and 2.0-0 are installed
[12:50] <magnet> netsavy006: that's not "some reason", that's security :)
[12:50] <matthewjames> magnet: well it came in a bundle called apache friends
[12:50] <lassegs> hi, does anyone know if i can install the newest version of deskbar applet thats in gnome 2.16 on my gnome 2.14 dapper box?
[12:50] <saeal> I'm trying to get 1440x900 to work on my Radeon X1800XT gfx card.
[12:50] <mcphail> matthewjames: and did you install apache from synaptic???
[12:50] <magnet> netsavy006: allow remote X connections with xhost in a shell from YOUR user (current display)
[12:50] <iMeow> thanks nozorro :)
[12:50] <netsavy006> magnet:  how do I do that?
[12:50] <matthewjames> no, from a bundled download, that installed apache and mysql, and php at 1 time
[12:51] <magnet> netsavy006: the best is to allow only local connections (xhost +local)
[12:51] <ShdwShinobi> Hello, I got my wireless card working, but after I rebooted my computer, anything I try to get it to work won't work.
[12:51] <mcphail> matthewjames: well, that's your problem then. Uninstall them
[12:51] <netsavy006> magnet: I get 'bad hostname local
[12:51] <iqon> what does it mean when i get a line like "?--------- ? ?     ?          ?          ? filename" when running ls -lah?
[12:51] <magnet> netsavy006: yep I know sorry
[12:51] <ShdwShinobi> I have a PCI Dlink DWL-G510
[12:51] <nozorro> iMeow: strictly you're not using root passwd. with gksu but admin rights, which is the default on ubuntu
[12:51] <netsavy006> magnet:  that's ok
[12:52] <magnet> netsavy006: well man xhosts to find it  or xhost + if you're behind a firewall ;)
[12:52] <matthewjames> why would that be the problem, the version works in linux on my friends, and on my windows?
[12:52] <magnet> netsavy006: xhost +localhost
[12:52] <mcphail> matthewjames: ubuntu has a very nicely set up apache2 in the repos, with init script control, a sane directory and user structure, and it actually _works_
[12:52] <ripper> how do i get my shutdown button back?
[12:52] <ripper> !shutdown
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <netsavy006> magnet:  being added to access control list
[12:53] <matthewjames> it have php with it?
[12:53] <cerberus> magnet, boy do I feel like an idiot now, I added an exception for the other box's IP but that didn't work, disableing the firewall however allowed the connection
[12:53] <saeal> I'm trying to get 1440x900 resolution to work on my Radeon X1800XT gfx card. After I install the fglrx driver
[12:53] <netsavy006> magnet:  now what do I do?
[12:53] <fokuslee> !tar: No archive found
[12:53] <ubotu> tar: GNU tar. In component main, is required. Version 1.15.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 506 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[12:53] <magnet> cerberus: hehe :) so problem solved, yeah
[12:53] <mcphail> matthewjames: you can install php4 or 5 very easily, mysql, postgresql etc etc etc
[12:53] <magnet> netsavy006: in the chroot shell, enter export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[12:53] <nozorro> saeal: look here maybe:
[12:53] <nozorro> !fixres
[12:53] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:53] <matthewjames> magnet: 1 person said i dont have ipv4 enables, would that be it?
[12:53] <magnet> netsavy006: then launch synaptic again, it should work
[12:53] <fokuslee> hi can anyone help me with tar
[12:53] <cerberus> very nearly, I just need to find a way to leave the firewall going but still be able to connect, but that's a different problem, thank you very much for your help
[12:53] <matthewjames> mcphail: 1 person said i dont have ipv4 enables, would that be it?
[12:53] <iMeow> nozorro: thank you, it is working :)
[12:54] <netsavy006> magnet:  do I need the quotes in the above statments?
[12:54] <magnet> matthewjames: are you using your ubuntu box right now?
[12:54] <magnet> netsavy006: no
[12:54] <shut-> hi gnome freak
[12:54] <TylerDurdener> where can i get the default synaptic repo list that?
[12:54] <matthewjames> magnet: yes
[12:54] <mcphail> matthewjames: almost certainly not
[12:54] <magnet> netsavy006: what's between quotes
[12:54] <kitche> matthewjames: if you wanted to you could look up LAMP less headache
[12:54] <nozorro> iMeow: np
[12:54] <saeal> nozorro: what?
[12:54] <magnet> matthewjames: so you DO have ipv4 enabled :)
[12:54] <matthewjames> magnet: how tell?
[12:54] <Adam_G> Hello all. In Xubuntu with XFce, I'm able to bind key sequences to commands. Can this be done in gnome? If so, how?
[12:54] <magnet> matthewjames: you're connected to the freenode IRC server using tcp over ipv4
[12:54] <saeal> !fixres
[12:54] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:54] <profoX`> how much memory do I need to install with the alternate cd ? 64MB ? 32MB?
[12:54] <ShdwShinobi> Would someone be able to help me with my wireless problems?
[12:55] <fokuslee> anyone?
[12:55] <uberspaced> goddammit, found the problem... when you put a space in "eth 1" the shit just 'fails'
[12:55] <matthewjames> magnet: ok, then yes :P
[12:55] <uberspaced> gah.
[12:55] <rafael_BR> ShdwShinobi i'd try to install network manager package
[12:55] <nozorro> saeal: scroll up, look under the link for fixres i gave
[12:55] <matthewjames> magnet: could u remote control me and look at my box?
[12:55] <skavenge> Adam_G: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:55] <mcphail> matthewjames: only the proper ubuntu apache, mysql and php packages are supported on this channel. They are excellent packages. I'd suggest you install them instead of the random bundle you have downloaded
[12:55] <saeal> nozorro: thanks
[12:55] <ripper> ok, could someone please tell me how i can make my shutdown button visible again when i hit quit?
[12:55] <profoX`> how much memory do I need to install with the alternate cd ? 64MB ? 32MB?
[12:55] <profoX`> ?dm restart -- doesn't that have to be gdm restart ?
[12:55] <magnet> matthewjames: if netsavy006's problem fixed, yep
[12:55] <ripper> i lost that and my restart button
[12:55] <matthewjames> magnet: ok
[12:56] <ShdwShinobi> rafael_BR, it's installed
[12:56] <rafael_BR> is it possible to drag a window from a desktop into another using mouse?
[12:56] <magnet> matthewjames: wait a sec, and I won't spend more than 5 mins on it, would I succeed or not
[12:56] <Adam_G> skavenge, that's not it. I want to be able to actually define the command
[12:56] <harisund> What's the advantage behind running Linux as Virtual machines? Why do some users migrate production servers to VMs?
[12:56] <magnet> so I don't guarantee anything :)
[12:56] <matthewjames> magnet: start a priv chat when rdy ok?
[12:56] <magnet> ok
[12:56] <netsavy006> magnet:  can you put the display thing in again?
[12:56] <matthewjames> k
[12:56] <magnet> netsavy006: export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[12:56] <ShdwShinobi> When I run 'sudo lshw -C network' It says my wireless card is unclaimed.
[12:56] <magnet> matthewjames: you need those quotes :)
[12:56] <Adam_G> skavenge, like, control+pause->"mpc toggle"
[12:56] <netsavy006> there are quotes in between :0.0
[12:57] <netsavy006> magnet: is the : before 0.0 needed?
[12:57] <fokuslee> can someone help me with tar?
[12:57] <magnet> yep
[12:57] <harisund> yes fokuslee ?
[12:57] <matthewjames> magnet: what quotes?
[12:57] <magnet> you need the full string :)
[12:57] <magnet> matthewjames: i'm talking to netsavy006
[12:57] <ripper> can anyone see what im typing?
[12:57] <fokuslee> harisund i get an error like this
[12:57] <harisund> fokuslee: either pm me or paste it somewhere, not here.
[12:57] <fokuslee> tar:  /usr/src NO archive found
[12:57] <rafael_BR> is it possible to drag a window from a desktop into another using mouse like xfce does? any1?
[12:57] <matthewjames> magnet well it poped up as me?
[12:57] <fokuslee> ok
[12:57] <harisund> fokuslee: are you trying to tar something or untar an existing compressed file?
[12:57] <edju> Something keeps polling devices - cd drive - and shows failures in /var/log/meessages.  What is that? And how do I stop it?
[12:57] <ripper> i've asked a question, and nobody has even replyed with a no we cant help you
[12:57] <fokuslee> yeah
[12:58] <magnet> matthewjames: woops then
[12:58] <magnet> :)
[12:58] <netsavy006> magnet:  I have to re-download and re-install synaptic because I removed it after the problem occured. (in chroot)
[12:58] <rafael_BR> ripper whats your question again?
[12:58] <Adam_G> ripper, I can see your typing :)
[12:58] <matthewjames> magnet: kk
[12:58] <ripper> ok
[12:58] <fokuslee> fokuslee@fokuslee-linux:~/sources$ sudo tar --bzip2 -xvf linux-2.6.17.11.tar.bz2 /usr/src
[12:58] <fokuslee> Password:
[12:58] <fokuslee> tar: /usr/src: Not found in archive
[12:58] <fokuslee> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[12:58] <ripper> i dont have a shutdown button when i click quit in the system menu
[12:58] <harisund> fokuslee: I asked you not to paste here....
[12:58] <ripper> nor do i have a restart button
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to get .TiVo files transcoded to avi files?
[12:58] <fokuslee> i don't have a pm option
[12:58] <harisund> fokuslee: anyway ... Try doing a -C ... as in sudo tar ....... -C /usr/src
[12:58] <rafael_BR> ripper i dunno how to add it to your menu again but u can also add it into your panel with the add remove applet thingy
[12:59] <harisund> fokuslee: of course you do :) It is just /msg harisund whatever you want to message :)
[12:59] <fokuslee> does that creat /usr/src?
[12:59] <mcphail> fokuslee: you still have a pastebin option
[12:59] <harisund> fokuslee: if it doesn't, just do sudo mkdir /usr/src and then do the tar, with -C /usr/src
[12:59] <fokuslee> ok hold on
[12:59] <ripper> heh
[12:59] <ripper> same thing
[12:59] <ripper> i have the quit button
[01:00] <ripper> but no option to shutdown or reboot
[01:00] <rafael_BR> ripper you mean when u click it u got no shutting down option?
[01:00] <fokuslee> oh sweet
[01:00] <fokuslee> that did the trick
[01:00] <ripper> yes
[01:00] <harisund> fokuslee: :)
[01:00] <fokuslee> what does the C flag do?
[01:00] <ripper> that would be correct
[01:00] <rafael_BR> ripper and what do you get?
[01:00] <fokuslee> and how do i pm someone?
[01:00] <harisund> fokuslee: -C gives the destination folder.
[01:00] <nmrm> rafael i use a program called brightside to do that
[01:00] <fokuslee> i c i c
[01:00] <ripper> hibernate switch user or log off
[01:00] <fokuslee> thx
[01:00] <mcphail> ripper: i take it you have installed xgl/compiz?
[01:00] <fokuslee> and how do i pm pplz/
[01:00] <rafael_BR> nmrm really? is it available on the repositories?
[01:00] <ripper> no i havent
[01:00] <fokuslee> i just started all linux thing
[01:01] <fokuslee> soo new
[01:01] <nmrm> yes
[01:01] <Rafa_brz> can I run "Kdevelop" using gnome?
[01:01] <magnet> netsavy006: tell me if it's ok
[01:01] <harisund> fokuslee: I think you need to have registered your nick on freenode. Then you can start a new converstaion window with someone by typing in /msg nickname message
[01:01] <harisund> fokusless what are you using to chat?
[01:01] <fokuslee> oh
[01:01] <ripper> i'd like to have a gfx card that would support xgl/compiz
[01:01] <fokuslee> xchat
[01:01] <netsavy006> magnet:  ok. I will report once the install finishes.
[01:01] <harisund> fokuslee:  I just sent you a private message.
[01:01] <fokuslee> i only started using irc for ubuntu
[01:01] <fokuslee> yeah i didn't get anything
[01:01] <s3tup> hotmail is down ?
[01:02] <rafael_BR> ripper try logging out and shutting your pc down within gdm
[01:02] <fokuslee> i think im gonna register my nick
[01:02] <rafael_BR> ripper until you find a way out of that
[01:02] <fokuslee> maybe dat will help
[01:02] <Rafa_brz> can I run "Kdevelop" using gnome???
[01:02] <jon_el> Hi I need help with compiz - anyone?
[01:02] <fokuslee> thx thou harisund
[01:02] <mcphail> ripper: those are the options you get if running xgl. Hmm.
[01:02] <magnet> netsavy006: ok
[01:02] <habeeb> Do you know how to add syntax highlighting in emacs, for python? :/
[01:02] <ripper> cant shut it down with gdm either
[01:02] <ripper> tried that already
[01:02] <rafael_BR> ripper can't u? which ubuntu are you runnin'?
[01:03] <nozorro> Rafa_brz: should be no problem at all -- apart from lacking integration with gnome desktop
[01:03] <ripper> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:40:32 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:03] <rafael_BR> mmmm... dapper i guess
[01:03] <ripper> yep
[01:03] <Paddy_EIRE> is the #gimp channel always kinda dead??
[01:03] <ripper> 6.06.1
[01:04] <ripper> i havent installed edgy yet, nor do i really want to
[01:04] <magnet> matthewjames: still here?
[01:04] <rafael_BR> ripper u may want to try 'sudo halt' in a terminal window
[01:04] <Rafa_brz> nozorro:  Have you ever used kdevelop or Anjuta?
[01:04] <ripper> umm thats not going to fix my problem
[01:04] <matthewjames> magnet: yes, hey, does xchat use the soundcard?
[01:04] <ripper> i want my menu's to work, thats not going to fix them
[01:04] <nozorro> Rafa_brz: nope
[01:04] <ripper> that will just power the box down
yeah u should wait my comps stable as hell right now and i dont want anything messing that up wait for the official release
[01:04] <rafael_BR> ripper i can't figure out your problem.. has the icons disappeared or never existed?
[01:04] <Rafa_brz> nozorro: I'd like to know wich is the best one...
[01:05] <magnet> matthewjames: what's that supposed to mean? should it play sounds you mean? it may yep, depends on your configuration
[01:05] <ripper> it was there when i had breezy
[01:05] <Kuprin> Hey guys - what happened to all the packages referenced in RestrictedFormats? Did a whole pile of things change? I'm getting a "no download candidate" error for a lot of things like gstreamer0.10-ugly
[01:05] <ripper> i upgraded to dapper, and it went away
[01:05] <matthewjames> im in priv
[01:05] <cerberus> magnet, just incase you wanted to know, I've fixed up the firewall and now have everythnig working perfectly, thanks again for you help
[01:05] <nozorro> Rafa_brz: no idea, really. you can try both though :-)
[01:05] <rafael_BR> ripper try creating a new account and check if it's right there
[01:05] <magnet> ok cerberus nice; np :)
[01:06] <matthewjames> magnet: im in priv
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[01:06] <nozorro> !ops
[01:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:06] <ripper> this is an admin account.
[01:06] <profoX`> lol and now he's here
[01:06] <cappicard> wtf
[01:06] <Hobbsee> got him
[01:06] <Arbiter> o.O
[01:06] <ripper> and i cant shutdown or reboot from the menu
[01:06] <Kragnerac> wtf?
[01:06] <archangelpetro> ?
[01:06] <profoX`> he goes around many channels :/
[01:06] <Kragnerac> stupid cracker
[01:06] <nightfreak> hi all, i have a problem with mysql, the innodb starage engine is disabled by default and i dont know why, no innodb related configuration variable is set and it should be enabled by default. i think it could be a ubuntu related issue
[01:06] <profoX`> that helldragon noob
[01:06] <Malnilion> Wow, that's ridiculous.
[01:06] <HellDragon> profoX`, :(
[01:06] <rafael_BR> ripper have you tried alacarte to edit your menu?
[01:06] <cello_rasp> a hell ... dragon?????
[01:06] <HellDragon> im getting impersonated
[01:06] <Hobbsee> pretty stupid, to go and ping the ops in the list of names.....*shakes head*
[01:06] <profoX`> HellDragon: lol
[01:07] <rafael_BR> oh no.. nevermind ripper
[01:07] <HellDragon> theres like 5 imitaters on #freenode-social
[01:07] <HellDragon> :(
[01:07] <ripper> have you looked at alacarte? it doesnt contain anything like that for the system menu
[01:07] <jvai> hey erbody, what's goin on w/ the debian channel, i couldnt connet
[01:07] <magnet> matthewjames: you don't answer queries
[01:07] <bbrazil> jvai: it changed network
[01:07] <javaJake> Hello
[01:07] <jvai> oo
[01:07] <rafael_BR> ripper nevermind.. my mistake ;)
[01:07] <javaJake> I'm trying to install PHP4 into Apache2
[01:07] <bbrazil> jvai: try ##debian here
[01:07] <Kragnerac> lol
[01:07] <Kragnerac> rofl
[01:07] <javaJake> I ran sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-php
[01:07] <ripper> this is grand, i dont know why this happend
[01:08] <magnet> javaJake: libapache2-mod-php4
[01:08] <javaJake> But all I get is a blank page
[01:08] <magnet> for apache2
[01:08] <javaJake> Duh
[01:08] <javaJake> thanks
[01:08] <ripper> makes me wanna punch my box
[01:08] <matthewjames> magnet: is that why then?
[01:08] <jvai> who got all those mad !53! updates last nyte?
[01:08] <rafael_BR> ripper hey.. there is an option to select what are the stuff you want in the shutdown window
[01:08] <jvai> i did, on hoary-security
[01:08] <magnet> matthewjames: huh, don't you want me to have a look at your set up? or not :)
[01:08] <ripper> where?
[01:08] <rafael_BR> ripper i can't remember where it is though..
[01:08] <matthewjames> : yes, private chat man
[01:08] <rafael_BR> ripper go through your adm settings
[01:08] <magnet> matthewjames: yeah well you're not answering
[01:08] <rafael_BR> ripper even through preferences
[01:09] <matthewjames> ..?
[01:09] <jvai> i forgot how to use xp!!
[01:09] <Kuprin> LOL
[01:09] <matthewjames> yes i am, and i see u typig
[01:09] <jvai> snaap
[01:09] <kmilo> LOL
[01:09] <rafael_BR> lol
[01:09] <rafael_BR> god bless you/!!!
[01:09] <matthewjames> echooooo
[01:09] <matthewjames> saw it
[01:09] <magnet> matthewjames: well you're invisibly answering then :)
[01:09] <matthewjames> and typed back
[01:09] <matthewjames> how chnage it?
[01:09] <magnet> matthewjames: wait, maybe it's on my end
[01:09] <fokuslee> this is stupid but how do i register my nick with freenode?
[01:09] <matthewjames> ok
[01:09] <^Ocean^> is there a way to change the webcam setting for flash applications.  Because eveytime i use my webcam in a flash application it makes the image super zoomed in compared to any of the other applications i use...
[01:09] <sebastian929> hey when i disable amd cool n quiet ubuntu doesnt boot up
[01:10] <jvai> gnome 2.16 is out 2 play
[01:10] <bruenig> fokuslee, looks like this /msg nickserv register password
[01:10] <bruenig> put your own password
[01:10] <sebastian929> how cna i disable it and make ubuntu boot up?
[01:10] <javaJake> It is STILL blank.........
[01:10] <fokuslee> thx bruenig
[01:10] <nozorro> ripper: try playing with the power management options to get your button back, there's a bug somewhere in the p.m. modules i believe
[01:10] <magnet> matthewjames: oh noes it's on yours; it's freenode's anti spam protection, you have to register your nickname
[01:10] <javaJake> magnet, the page is still blank even after isntalling what you mentioned
[01:10] <rafael_BR> jvai are there any repositorie for gnome 2.16? do you know any?
[01:10] <Kuprin> Can anyone check if the default repos are borked for multiverse right now? I'm trying to set up the stuff in RestrictedFormats, and nothing's working. I keep getting the "package is not available, but is referenced by another package. Missing/obsoleted/othersource etc" ...what might be wrong?
[01:10] <matthewjames> ok, um, u have aim, or msn?
[01:10] <magnet> javaJake: well at least php4 is installed in apache2 :)
[01:10] <javaJake> magnet, and I did restart apache using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:10] <magnet> !apache2
[01:10] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:10] <magnet> !apache
[01:10] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:11] <magnet> javaJake: see those tuts
[01:11] <magnet> matthewjames: no
[01:11] <matthewjames> magnet: ok well, how can u romte me?
[01:11] <javaJake> I do not want to install php5
[01:11] <javaJake> I heard baad things about it
[01:11] <magnet> matthewjames: romte?
[01:11] <matthewjames> remote desktop*
[01:11] <rafael_BR> BitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - Linux 2.6.15-26-386
[01:12] <magnet> javaJake: PHP is a bad thing on its own, no matter what version it is :)
[01:12] <rafael_BR> got to love biatchx
[01:12] <ripper> rafael lemme have a shell on your box
[01:12] <jvai> i dont think so @rafael, & i'm on hoary still
[01:12] <jvai> hoary = 2 versions down from dapper
[01:12] <jvai> but staaaable
[01:12] <sebastian929> no one knows how to disable cool n quiet?
[01:12] <magnet> matthewjames: no remote desktop, remote shell; install openssh-server
[01:12] <javaJake> magnet, and why is that!?
[01:12] <matthewjames> with what, apt-get install?
[01:12] <magnet> javaJake: I'd love to discuss about it but it'd took all the night ;)
[01:12] <rafael_BR> holly bully! u still run hoary??? not even breezy?
[01:12] <rafael_BR> i'm a compulsive updater
[01:12] <rafael_BR> lol
[01:13] <rafael_BR> my apt-get will never be retired
[01:13] <sebastian929> ??
[01:13] <matthewjames> magnet: installing it now
[01:13] <ripper> rafeal_BR you should hook me up with a shell, and ill show you why not to use BitchX
[01:13] <javaJake> magnet, still nothing
[01:13] <magnet> ok matthewjames
[01:13] <jvai> nope, & i got the hoary dvd from a linux mag, got beat up learning it, & now i'm n lub
[01:13] <rafael_BR> ripper no way dood :)
[01:13] <matthewjames> magnet: done
[01:13] <magnet> javaJake: well even if the wiki page is for php5, it's almost the same for php4 so use it as an info
[01:13] <rafael_BR> ripper if u want in u gotta figure out how :)
[01:13] <ripper> nasty lil local root exploit for BitchX :D
[01:14] <jvai> i got the dapper 6.06.1 iso in my home folder
[01:14] <magnet> matthewjames: register your nickname on freenode so you can give me credentials to log into your machine (/msg Nickserv HELP register)
[01:14] <ripper> i could brute force ssh if your running it
[01:14] <magnet> ripper: I'd love you to :)
[01:14] <rafael_BR> well bro.. u can try anything and there's nothing i could do against u.. only pray lol
[01:15] <ripper> i just want my power button fixed
[01:15] <matthewjames> magnet: i typed it and nothing happened
[01:15] <ripper> this is ticking me off
[01:15] <jvai> hydra * john r outdated in the repos :(
[01:15] <magnet> ripper: (but then I'd have to call the police oh noooo ;))
[01:15] <habeeb> Do you know how to add syntax highlighting in emacs, for python? :/
[01:15] <magnet> matthewjames: look at your status window
[01:15] <ripper> i dont deal with cops to well
[01:15] <matthewjames> k
[01:15] <ShdwShinobi> rafael_BR, Network Manager is installed... (was installed before I set up my wireless) but I have no idea how to get to it
[01:15] <magnet> ripper: hehe :)
[01:15] <saeal> I'm back, with no luck.
[01:15] <rafael_BR> ShdwShinobi alt+f2 then type the program which u wanna run
[01:16] <ripper> this power button issue is horrid
[01:16] <saeal> It tried switching to the ATI instead of versa but it gives me a "No device found"
[01:16] <magnet> ripper: isn't it a hardware problem?
[01:16] <sebastian929> does anyone here know how to disable cool n quiet on ubuntu?
[01:16] <matthewjames> magnet: im noob with irc, what is the status window?
[01:16] <rafael_BR> ripper isn't it due to personal settings? have you tried another accounts?
[01:16] <magnet> matthewjames: the window with the network name
[01:16] <ShdwShinobi> it only lists 'network-admin'
[01:16] <matthewjames> rgr, kk
[01:17] <rafael_BR> ShdwShinobi and by the way network manager is not the standard network tool which comes with ubuntu out of the box
[01:17] <matthewjames> REGISTER lupus12
[01:17] <nozorro> saeal: does your ati card appear in the ouput of 'lspci'?
[01:17] <rafael_BR> hah
[01:17] <ShdwShinobi> I know, I selected and installed it via Add/Remove Programs
[01:17] <jorik> Is it possible to run your own IMAP server? I'm looking for a setup where i can create IMAP accounts on my computer and associate them with multiple IMAP/POP3 accounts I have on the web and _filter_them_for_spam_.
[01:17] <nozorro> ripper: try disabling power management (options)
[01:17] <rafael_BR> mmm ic
[01:18] <magnet> yep jorik of coursez
[01:18] <Milk_> ello
[01:18] <rafael_BR> ShdwShinobi can't u get connected with the wireless card?
[01:18] <ripper> how could i disable power management?
[01:18] <Milk_> anyone here use streamtuner/ripper?  I can not seem to get it to rip from live365 stations
[01:18] <matthewjames> magnet: k, i how do password
[01:18] <magnet> jorik: for what you want, you need to use fetchmail + imap
[01:18] <sebastian929> no one here knows how to disable cool n quiet in ubuntu?
[01:19] <saeal> nozorro: it says "Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown Device 7120" I just switcyhed back to versa, I tried ATI option before.
[01:19] <bruenig> sebastian929, what is cool and quiet?
[01:19] <magnet> matthewjames: password what? I gave you the command to get help on registering your nickname, join #help for details
[01:19] <jorik> magnet: which imap-server should i use for that?
[01:19] <nozorro> saeal: System -> Prefs -> Power Management, and Session (disable gnome-power-manager).
[01:19] <ShdwShinobi> rafael, I cannot connect to the wireless card. the only time it shows up is when I type sudo lschw -C network
[01:19] <matthewjames> k
[01:19] <magnet> jorik: i use courier-imap-ssl
[01:19] <bsdfox> sebastian929, disable it in the bios
[01:19] <sebastian929> when i disable it in bios
[01:19] <sebastian929> ubuntu starts then hangs on boot
[01:19] <jorik> cool ill check it out
[01:19] <saeal> nozorro: that will fix my resolutions problem?
[01:19] <b14ck73425> i was reading different stories on linux today and i came across this one http://decidere.blogspot.com/2006/09/cutting-off-windows.html how to i get the desktop at the end?
[01:19] <rafael_BR> ShdwShinobi mmmm.. i'm sorry but i can't help you any further since i've never had wireless networks at home
[01:19] <magnet> jorik: courier-imap is the same without ssl (sometimes the ssl port is blocked)
[01:20] <ShdwShinobi> Ok
[01:20] <ShdwShinobi> thanks anyways :)
[01:20] <bruenig> b14ck73425, the cube?
[01:20] <b14ck73425> yeah
[01:20] <rafael_BR> ShdwShinobi but... if i was to setup one of these u would firstly go to network tools and set the ips etc then run network manager
[01:20] <b14ck73425> what is it
[01:20] <nozorro> saeal: not sure, but one can specify BusID in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:20] <jorik> magnet: but then i have to create a maildir for each user, right ?
[01:20] <bruenig> !ubotu tell b14ck73425 about xgl
[01:20] <magnet> jorik: i also use imapproxy and squirrelmail to get a webmail based on imap, and maildrop or procmail to filter mails properly when you receive them
[01:20] <jake1> i just downloaded the Ubuntu alternative cd from the website
[01:20] <saeal> nozorro: what would I set the busID to?
[01:20] <jorik> yeah i was thinking of using procmail too
[01:20] <magnet> jorik: when you mean user you mean "people" or your logins?
[01:20] <b14ck73425> thank you
[01:21] <jorik> logins on kubuntu
[01:21] <jorik> wait no
[01:21] <rafael_BR> i want gnome 2.16!!! :(
[01:21] <jake1> now i'm curious can i use the iso instead of the cd when synaptic asks me to insert the CD
[01:21] <jake1> ?
[01:21] <bruenig> compile it!!! :)
[01:21] <rafael_BR> but i can't bother compiling it
[01:21] <ShdwShinobi> Well, i'm not seeing how network manager works... it just adds an icon to my system tray
[01:21] <jake1> kinda like a virtual disk
[01:21] <jorik> i mean ... say i still want, for some reason, two IMAP logins on my own server
[01:21] <jake1> and if so how would i go about doing that
[01:21] <rafael_BR> no compiling stuff in my linux box for god's sake!
[01:21] <magnet> yeah jake1, just mount the iso
[01:21] <jake1> i'm not quiet sure how to mount it
[01:21] <ripper> well stopping acpi did no good
[01:22] <rafael_BR> jake1 mount -o loop /dev/hdb /mount_point
[01:22] <magnet> jake1: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /mount
[01:22] <magnet> -loop too yep :)
[01:22] <matthewjames> magnet: ok i am registered now what?
[01:22] <nozorro> saeal: gimme the one line from lspci which refers to the ati card
[01:22] <jake1> there should just be a graphical tool for it
[01:22] <rafael_BR> jake1 indeed
[01:22] <magnet> matthewjames: now we can talk privately :) try pm'ing me
[01:22] <jorik> cause it looks to me if you work with maildirs you need one for each login to the server (so you need a user on you kubuntu system too). no ?
[01:22] <matthewjames> k
[01:22] <rafael_BR> jake1 there should be someone complaining that on ubuntu forums either
[01:22] <jake1> huh?
[01:23] <b14ck73425> have you ever used it
[01:23] <rafael_BR> jake1 you can always setup a nautilus script for such a purpose
[01:23] <magnet> jorik: yeah, but why would you do that?
[01:23] <saeal> nozorro: 0000:06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologeies Inc: Unknown Device 7120
[01:23] <linuxunil> i'm getting an error about broken pipes when fixing compiz packages
[01:23] <magnet> jorik: I understood you want to import mails from different servers to ONE imap server on your ubuntu box
[01:23] <nozorro> ripper: scroll up for power managment tip i gave to saeal erroneously
[01:23] <linuxunil> can some one help
[01:23] <magnet> jorik: and if you want, you can have multiple logins for ONE Maildir
[01:24] <nozorro> saeal: pls. wait a sec
[01:24] <rafael_BR> samba's giving me a headache
[01:24] <saeal> nozorro: k
[01:24] <rafael_BR> erhm... window's
[01:24] <b14ck73425> have you ever used it?
[01:25] <ripper> i dont have a session option
[01:25] <jon_el> Can anyone help me with compiz?
[01:25] <jorik> magnet: i think i need to rtfm a bit more ... bb
[01:25] <jorik> l
[01:25] <b14ck73425> bruenig, have you ever used the cube
[01:26] <javaJake> magnet, OK, now my browser wants to download the php file. I have the php5 module loaded. What could go wrong!?
[01:26] <bruenig> b14ck73425, no
[01:26] <magnet> ok jorik, i'll be away for 5 mins
[01:26] <wtfpwn> totally
[01:26] <magnet> javaJake: many things, content-type for one thing :)
[01:26] <hodges> Okay, total linux newbie here with a question that is driving the crap outta me.  Been searching on the forum and getting so many options, i feel somewhat overwhelmed.  I have installed the AMD64 Ubuntu dapper drake version and am having some issues with flash and geting it to work.  I tried flash player 7 from adobes website and it says it does not support amd64.  How could i get flash player to work correctly with an AMD64, or, would you
[01:26] <hodges>  NOT reccomend using AMD64 and just installing an x86 version?  Any help would be extremely amazing
[01:26] <javaJake> :P
[01:26] <bruenig> b14ck73425, don't know if what ubotu sent you had this but go to #ubuntu-xgl if you are seriously interested
[01:26] <nozorro> saeal: still ooking for a document, pls. wait
[01:26] <fokuslee> im compiling the new kernel it ask me if i need relay
[01:26] <magnet> javaJake: does it want to download the SOURCE or the OUTPUT ?
[01:26] <saeal> nozorro: thank you, I can wait
[01:26] <fokuslee> do i need it if i have amd64?] 
[01:26] <b14ck73425> well i dont think that i could support it anyway my vid card is crap
[01:26] <javaJake> magnet, source
[01:26] <Paddy_EIRE> where can I get the templates that are supposed to be in my right click options??
[01:27] <Kuprin> hodges: Flash player is totally unsupported. I'd recommend running the x86 version like I am. You could also just set up Wine, and use Firefox-win32 and the Windows flash player.
[01:27] <magnet> javaJake: ok that means that PHP doesn't process the file, have you the AddHandler directive in your apache conf?
[01:27] <bruenig> hodges, there is no native support for flash or java on amd64, you can use a 32 bit version of firefox and get it to work pretty well. Pretty sure there is a how to and script for that on the forums
[01:27] <magnet> javaJake: you should have a look at the tutorial, it also gives help on php4 :)
[01:27] <javaJake> I have
[01:27] <Ruffles> is gnome 2.16 already available for download on edgy's repositories?
[01:27] <javaJake> Or, the wiki at least
[01:27] <magnet> ok
[01:28] <hodges> kuprin: and bruenig, thanks a bunch guys, I think I may just go try x86 version, it looks like a lot more support is with that.
[01:28] <Paddy_EIRE> !templates
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about templates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <Kuprin> hodges: that's what I recommend if you want multimedia support right now. Wine is good for it though, if you wanted to you could run an amd64 set up and a lot of things in Wine...but you're still going to be very slow with 32-bit apps. x86 may be a lot faster for you. At least it's better than XP64? :p
[01:28] <javaJake> magnet, I have not added that handler
[01:28] <javaJake> What is the syntax?
[01:28] <magnet> well I hate helping with software config since there is so many documentation out there and that's it takes time so you should look on php.net (install howto)
[01:29] <javaJake> magnet, IOW, what do I punch in? :P
[01:29] <Ruffles> LOL
[01:29] <Ruffles> can't install debian ahahah
[01:29] <magnet> javaJake: :) seriously, look on php.net, it's all written there :)
[01:29] <saeal> nozorro: if it helps, I'm using a 64 bit processor, Radeon X1800 Saphire vid card.
[01:29] <javaJake> OK
[01:29] <edju> Something keeps polling devices - cd drive - and shows failures in /var/log/meessages.  What is that? And how do I stop it?
[01:29] <fokuslee> relayfs is only for multi core processor rite?
[01:29] <jvai_> i lost my conection
[01:30] <Ruffles> ripper so? any luck yet?
[01:30] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone have the 'Create Document' Templates installed in the right click menu???
[01:31] <jvai_> i do in hoary @ paddy
[01:31] <jvai_> did ubuntu reconstruct the right clik menu?
[01:31] <jvai_> in dapper?
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE>  <jvai_>is this not working in dapper yet
[01:32] <ripper> no luck no
[01:32] <jvai_> wow, ppl were complaining bout that in the gnome 2.16 disscusion on /.
 been asking this question for quite a while now i dont think anyone using Dapper does
[01:33] <red_one> are ubuntu release still tied to gnome releases?
[01:33] <acidjazz> how come in ubuntu if i change the userlevel in /etc/inittab to 3 (which it usually is at default) it still loads xubuntu login screen upon boot?
[01:33] <bruenig> red_one, in theory
[01:33] <jvai_> paddy, u read slashdot? look @ the gnome 2.16 discussion
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[01:33] <brian98> Paddy_eire: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/57006 any good?
[01:34] <bruenig> red_one, edgy comes out next month, latest gnome was this month. So assuming they are given an appropriate time to get it integrated, I would say that is synched up with gnome's release
[01:34] <javaJake> YES!
[01:34] <javaJake> magnet, thanks!
[01:34] <jvai_> lol
[01:34] <shayan> is there an apt-get way to upgrade gnome?
[01:34] <javaJake> magnet, it now works!
[01:34] <red_one> bruenig: righto, thanks
[01:34] <nozorro> saeal: argh, the numbers shown by lspci must be converted into decimal for inclusion into xorg.conf. now if i knew how to do this ... anyway you could try disabling any bus id already set in xorg.conf and see whether it gets detected automatically
[01:34] <magnet> javaJake: np ;)
[01:34] <javaJake> :P
[01:34] <fokuslee> !scaleMP
[01:34] <javaJake> Bye everyone
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scaleMP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <ripper> this si suckin'
[01:35] <shayan> is there an apt-get way to upgrade gnome?
[01:35] <crimsun> bruenig: ubuntu releases are synced with the first point release of a gnome releases
[01:35] <mcphail> acidjazz: ubuntu doesn't pay too much attention to runlevels
[01:35] <saeal> nozorro: okay, so remove the bus id and then restard gdm?
[01:35] <saeal> nozorro: err xserver?
[01:35] <aum> how do i (in ubuntu gnome) set up compound hotkeys for launching apps - eg, Alt-Win-X for X-chat?
[01:35] <ToHellWithGA> i'm having a problem with gnome.  my panel does not display the running programs and i cannot click any of the icons in the panel to get an effect.
[01:35] <diego_cl> is there any new driver for NTFS writing ???
[01:36] <acidjazz> mcphail: so what does ubuntu pay attention to? how do i stop X from starting up upon boot
so this cant be fixed, what is with the empty templates folder in my home director
[01:36] <saeal> nozorro: or should i remove busid then reconfigure xserver?
[01:36] <nozorro> saeal: try disabling it if there's any already set (?) -- hope it doesn't throw you out of xserver altogether.
[01:36] <brian98> paddy_eire: I haven't really played with it, I'm sure it's possible.. Let me have a look...
[01:37] <nozorro> saeal: you could also look for any relevant output in /var/log/X.*.log
[01:37] <saeal> nozorro: the bus id is set to PCI:6:0:0, the card btw is pci-express
[01:38] <matthewjames> magnet: ?
[01:38] <magnetr> hu
[01:38] <bruenig> aum, I use xbindkeys
[01:38] <magnetr> what the hell :) i hate xchat
[01:39] <nbjayme> hello ppl. linux and multimedia : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7372042969052170899&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en   (using ubuntu gnu linux, problem with google is that it does not go to 1 : 33 ).
[01:39] <aum> bruenig, thx
[01:39] <magnetr> I have a connec to the serv but Xchat doesn't see it anymore ;)
[01:39] <matthewjames> magnetr: lol
[01:39] <brian98> paddy_eire: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241677 should work.....#
[01:39] <magnetr> wait a sec
[01:39] <nozorro> saeal: well i gues i'm really not sure. anyway the above was based on the assumption that you've already tried any hints from that link. sorry
[01:39] <matthewjames> magnetr: np man
[01:39] <aum> feels to me the biggest virtue of ubuntu over debian is its superlative packaging and desktop integration
[01:39] <saeal> nozorro: thanks, could you give me the link agian?
[01:40] <magnet> ok
[01:40] <matthewjames> ok
[01:40] <magnet> now how am I supposed to kill an invisible connection? :) brb
[01:40] <jvai_> wow
[01:40] <matthewjames> lol
[01:40] <nozorro> saeal: just look out for when i give the fixres command here in the channel:
[01:40] <nozorro> !fixres
[01:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:41] <matthewjames> hey for ipv4 it says broadcast is 192.168.1.255, is that what i should forward to?
[01:41] <nozorro> saeal: ok?
[01:41] <saeal> nozorro: so there isn't really anyway I can just force it to use a resolution, I tried using aticonfig --resolution 0,[resolutions]  but xserver just crashes on reastart
[01:41] <matthewjames> magnet :hey for ipv4 it says broadcast is 192.168.1.255, is that what i should forward to?
[01:41] <jastarafi> Hello
[01:41] <Pntkl> hi
[01:41] <Steil> whats the default keyboard layout ubuntu will install with?
[01:41] <Pntkl> dunno
[01:41] <jastarafi> ?
[01:41] <bruenig> Steil, US
[01:41] <magnet> matthewjames: no
[01:41] <bruenig> or American or whatever it is called
[01:41] <matthewjames> magnet: ok, then what?
[01:41] <Steil> bruenig: what is it called in the xorg.conf?
[01:42] <nozorro> saeal: maybe try in the forums, you'll reach more people with similar problems/hardware, and your question is "sticky" so to speak
[01:42] <bruenig> that is what the graphical selection was called
[01:42] <acidjazz> how come in ubuntu if i change the userlevel in /etc/inittab to 3 (which it usually is at default) it still loads xubuntu login screen upon boot?
[01:42] <saeal> nozorro: Okay, thank you for your help today
[01:42] <acidjazz> basically how do i stop ubuntu from using xubuntu upon boot/etc
[01:42] <bruenig> Steil, you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to change your keyboard by selecting it from a list, much simpler
[01:42] <magnet> matthewjames: I don't know, maybe, it depends on your lan address
[01:43] <matthewjames> magnet:?
[01:43] <nozorro> saeal: and btw you can force resolutions but in the first place we want it to use the correct driver -- which is not your case if you have vga
[01:43] <magnet> brb
[01:43] <matthewjames> kk
[01:43] <saeal> nozorro: so it's using the wrong driver?
[01:43] <magnet> ok
[01:43] <magnet> xchat really sucks
[01:43] <magnet> matthewjames: what's your router IP?
[01:43] <matthewjames> lol
[01:43] <matthewjames> 192.168.1.1
[01:44] <nozorro> saeal: maybe, maybe not. i'd need your entire xorg.conf to see it. please don't paste into the channel though
[01:44] <magnet> so it's the good broadcast address
[01:44] <brian98> paddy_eire: Any joy ?
[01:44] <saeal> nozorro: haha, okay don't worry I won't
[01:44] <matthewjames> but the router ip for my pc is 192.168.1.4
[01:44] <rafael_BR> hey fellas how do i change ubuntu's default motd ?
[01:44] <magnet> matthewjames: what do you mean?
[01:44] <matthewjames> magnet: lan ip*
[01:45] <magnet> rafael_BR: edit /etc/motd
[01:45] <nozorro> saeal: the driver used is given in xorg.conf in the Section "Device" under "Driver"
[01:45] <rafael_BR> magnet: isn't it overwritten after i reboot ?
[01:45] <matthewjames> would u like me to send my ifconfig out put?
[01:45] <magnet> rafael_BR: shouldn't be
no they must be waiting for edgy at this stage its a little late to implement this
[01:45] <Steil> bruenig: will reconfiguring through dpkg destroy my current config?
[01:45] <magnet> matthewjames: paste it to the pastebin
[01:45] <acidjazz> how do i stop ubuntu from running X and gdm/etc upon boot
[01:45] <magnet> !paste
[01:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> roll on October
[01:45] <matthewjames> pastebin...
[01:45] <bruenig> Steil, it will configure it to whatever you choose
[01:46] <magnet> Steil: if it changes it, it backs it up before
 or u can go gui root system-->administration-->login window
[01:46] <matthewjames> magnet: pastebin...
[01:46] <brian98> paddy_eire: sorry :(?
[01:46] <bruenig> if you don't want to change your current config, but want to change the keyboard, you appear to be contradictory
[01:46] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs... why do ppl still use hoary and breezy i dont get it??
[01:46] <weswh-> what do you guys recommend for a simple ftp server? i want something that can easily keep my users straight - without having to add new users to my actual system, and can restrict access to a few folders on my machine. pretty basic, gui preferred..
[01:47] <magnet> weswh-: pure-ftpd
[01:47] <magnet> no gui
[01:47] <matthewjames> magnet: im sorry, paste bin?
[01:47] <magnet> !paste
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:47] <magnet> matthewjames: that's for you
[01:47] <saeal> nozorro: for the ATI Default card, it's set to vesa
[01:47] <brian98> Who knows!!
[01:47] <matthewjames> so download?
[01:47] <torpedo|dog> I'm having problems using the "new login in nested window" function
[01:47] <brian98> I'm off to watch only fools and horses :)
[01:47] <magnet> matthewjames: read what ubotu says
[01:47] <brian98> brain needs some inane tv
[01:47] <weswh-> magnet - but pretty simple to figure out? i have used like vsftp before and it didn't work so well for me
[01:48] <jvai_> lol.. paddy, cause.. it good enuff for what i do w/ it.. it's stable, i got all the propietory codecs i figure i'll ever need, for me, dapper's not my tyme
[01:48] <rafael_BR> where are figlet fonts placed at?
[01:48] <magnet> weswh-: depends on what you mean by simple :) it's well documented
[01:48] <matthewjames> kk
[01:48] <weswh-> magnet - i don't know...simple like warftp for windows :P
[01:48] <bbrazil> rafael_BR: dpkg -L figlet
[01:48] <magnet> rafael_BR: /usr/share/figlet/
[01:48] <rafael_BR> thanks
[01:48] <magnet> weswh-: I don't know windows
[01:48] <rafael_BR> bbrazil: pra q serve dpkg -L ???
[01:48] <brian98> paddy_eire you could always join #ubuntu+1 and ask em
[01:48] <jvai_> hoary replaced xp for me
[01:49] <bbrazil> !br
[01:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:49] <matthewjames> magnet: ok done
[01:49] <nozorro> saeal: that's what the autoconfig gave you? try 'ati'. might lock you out of xserver though
[01:49] <rafael_BR> bbrazil: what's dpkg -L for???
[01:49] <magnet> rafael_BR: dpkg -L lists files from a given package
[01:49] <rafael_BR> mmm ok
[01:49] <saeal> nozorro: tried that earlier but couldn't find my card, and xserver wouldn't work.
[01:49] <magnet> matthewjames: well paste your net config there and give the url
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jvai_: are you sure?
[01:50] <matthewjames> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22874
[01:50] <brian98> whats your opinion on Vista,
[01:50] <PWill> hey, when i click on links in xchat, they open in the terminal broswer, not firefox. "firefox %s" is set at the default browser in preferred applications
[01:50] <Paddy_EIRE> I have Xgl installed and im able to run it although it performs really really badly :( ... i have proprietary ati drivers installed on my radeon 9250 with 128ram an athlon xp processor and 512 system ram???
[01:50] <nozorro> saeal: and is the card supported by the commercial ati driver(s)?
[01:50] <jvai_> yes!! i use hoary on my laptop, i got all i really need tranporting it from home to the work enviroment
[01:50] <Paddy_EIRE> *athlon xp 1600
[01:50] <saeal> nozorro: I have a cd with for Windows with the drivers on it.
[01:51] <mcphail> acidjazz: remove /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[01:51] <magnet> matthewjames: seems ok
[01:51] <jvai_> i'm in starbucks right now, & u know what? no buffer overruns!!! :P
[01:51] <brian98> pwill: settings--> advanced --> url handlers
[01:51] <nozorro> saeal: the CD has the drivers for linux too?
[01:51] <matthewjames> magnet: ok, then what could it be?
[01:51] <saeal> dunno
[01:51] <acidjazz> mcphail: graci
[01:51] <bsdfox> Paddy_EIRE, I setup xgl on a similar system (p4/2.4ghz/1gb/9200SE 128) and it ran horribly, then I stuck a TNT2 in it and it got way faster
[01:51] <saeal> nozorro: maybe, never thought to check
[01:51] <matthewjames> can we try openssh?
[01:52] <bsdfox> Paddy_EIRE, I'd say the ati drivers aren't happy with xgl right now
[01:52] <magnet> matthewjames: are you sure that sudo netstat -apn | grep 22 doesn't show something like tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*  LISTEN 375/sshd ?
[01:52] <magnet> (and NOT tcp6)
[01:52] <jvai_> brb
[01:52] <Eppcott> I would like to ask a question about the error message "Cannot install all available updates."
[01:53] <saeal> nozorro: it only has an exe file in it.
[01:53] <brian98> eppcott: in what context
[01:53] <saeal> nozorro: does ati have linux drivers for download?
[01:53] <Eppcott> in Ubuntu Gnome automatic updater.
[01:53] <matthewjames> magnet: tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN     24330/sshd
 (and NOT tcp6)
[01:53] <brian98> one sec
[01:53] <Eppcott> it's been giving me this message every time I update my system,
[01:54] <Eppcott> but I haven't seen any actual problems related to it, so far as I know.
 k
[01:54] <magnet> I take it as a no, so?
[01:54] <Eppcott> there are these five particular packages that it says will be skipped. Every time.
 ya, dont say it
[01:54] <treedreamer> hello,everyone !
[01:55] <Eppcott> I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do about it, but it seems like it's telling me there's something wrong with my system.
[01:55] <nozorro> saeal: i think so. ati doesn't support linux as well as nvidia though. please, do some reasearch on linux/ubuntu and ati to get further. for instance: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#xorg.conf (somewhere in the middle of the document)
[01:55] <brian98> what is one of the packages?
[01:55] <PWill> brian98, i set it is "firefox %s" and now nothing happens when i click links
[01:55] <treedreamer> today when i try to chown  a file ,but permission denied ,why?
[01:55] <magnet> Eppcott: there's nothing to worry about those messages
[01:55] <brian98> try firefox-bin
[01:55] <saeal> nozorro: another random question, what does the .run file do?
 now, do u need ipv4 enabled?
[01:55] <PWill> treedreamer, you need to used sudo
[01:55] <nozorro> saeal: where is it?
[01:56] <magnet> saeal: they're binary files in a shell file, you run them with sh
[01:56] <brian98> pwill try firefox %u
[01:56] <saeal> nozorro: i got it from the ati website
[01:56] <treedreamer> PWill: oh,yes ,i used sudo
[01:56] <saeal> nozorro: it's a drivers install file
[01:56] <magnet> matthewjames: I don't know why openssh isn't bound on your ipv4 address, and I'm going to bed soon
[01:56] <TylerDurdener> Hey, I have two users, one named A the other B, is it possible to transfer all the settings (including mouse sens. wallpaper ect) from A to B?
[01:56] <matthewjames> ok
[01:57] <magnet> yep TylerDurdener
[01:57] <nozorro> saeal: for linux drivers?
[01:57] <treedreamer> PWill: i just run  sudo chown user:group /media/work/blog
[01:57] <TylerDurdener> how can I do that magnet?
[01:57] <Eppcott> magnet: thanks.
[01:57] <coder2000> what is needed for amarok to play mp3s?
[01:57] <magnet> TylerDurdener: copy A's home to B's and then remove any personal file
[01:57] <saeal> nozorro: yes, I found under Drivers and Support, a linux section for my card
[01:57] <BlueVoid> I have nVidia set up with Twinview.  It works, but for some reason it keep putting my secondary monitor as my my primary and my primary as my secondary.  Is there a way to fix this?
[01:58] <jorik> magnet: wow i found out all mail i thought was lost was dropped in /var/mail/me
[01:58] <bsdfox> BlueVoid, there's a bug in the drivers
[01:58] <magnet> jorik: yeah but that's a mbox
[01:58] <treedreamer> PWill:in addition ,it is a vfat partion
[01:58] <TylerDurdener> magnet how can I see B's home if I'm logged on at A?
[01:58] <nozorro> saeal: well i guess, you should 'run' it then. but it should be documented somewhere. anyway, i highly recommend you read up on linux and ati on the net first :-)
[01:58] <brian98> !codecs > coder2000
[01:58] <bsdfox> BlueVoid, I set that up maybe.. 4 months ago? and extensive research showed me that it's a bug.. at least with selecting primary desktop between CRT and DFP
[01:58] <matthewjames> what would be my url if my hostname is ubuntu?
[01:59] <magnet> TylerDurdener: gksu nautilus, then filesystem to /home
[01:59] <magnet> matthewjames: your url has nothing to do with your hostname
[01:59] <BlueVoid> bsdfox: so you didnt find a way to fix it?
[01:59] <matthewjames> ok
[01:59] <TylerDurdener> magnet, gsku command not found
[01:59] <magnet> matthewjames: at least the name you give to the machine
[01:59] <brian98> matthewjames: locally http://ubuntu
[01:59] <brian98> :)
[01:59] <matthewjames> k
[01:59] <magnet> TylerDurdener: read again what I wrote :)
[01:59] <brian98> but in the big bad world nothing
 hey, could u try to help me?
[02:00] <bsdfox> BlueVoid, nope
[02:00] <brian98> I'll do my best
[02:00] <bsdfox> BlueVoid, pissed me off a lot
[02:00] <BlueVoid> bsdfox: That sucks.  Alright, back to windows
[02:00] <PWill> treedreamer, so this is your mounted windows partition?
[02:00] <matthewjames> kk, i have a webser up, and no one can connect to my ip?
[02:00] <PWill> oops
[02:00] <brian98> ok
[02:00] <jvai_> what's the command to launch snort -v on boot up?
[02:00] <matthewjames> what can i do?
[02:01] <brian98> pwill: are you behind a router?
[02:01] <TylerDurdener> magnet: great, thank you
[02:01] <`123> I have a rather obscure problem dealing with burning cd's ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1467227#post1467227 ) ive had it for a couple of months and havent been able to find a solution for it on google or the forums and havent recieved a response on the forums, so ive decided to give it a shot here.
[02:01] <brian98> pwill can you access it yourself?
what can i do?
[02:01] <magnet> matthewjames: read a lot of doc and try to find out what your problem is :) but since ssh won't work any more than apache, I guess the problem is not only with apache
[02:01] <jvai_> 123 u r using the nautilus cd/writing tool?
[02:01] <magnet> np TylerDurdener
[02:02] <jvai_> try gnome baker from the repos
[02:02] <matthewjames> ok, but i can get a shoutcast server to work properly :P
[02:02] <PWill> brian98, what do you mean can i access it myself?
[02:02] <`123> no
[02:02] <`123> everything
[02:02] <`123> well... i tried cdrecord from command lin e
[02:02] <`123> nautilus
[02:02] <`123> k3b
[02:02] <`123> gnomebaker
[02:02] <brian98> pwill go to a shell type 'telnet localhost 80
[02:03] <PWill> meh. maybe it's an edgy bug. i'll do a bug report, i guess
[02:03] <jvai_> what problems?
[02:03] <magnet> matthewjames: that'll be the same problem; find out what the problem is first, i'm sure it's nothing
[02:03] <`123> read the post
[02:03] <`123> it has more details
[02:03] <`123> and id rather not flood the server
[02:03] <matthewjames> but the music server DOES work, and can access by ip
[02:03] <magnet> really?
[02:03] <matthewjames> is just what im trying to say :P
[02:03] <sethk> `123, paste the url of the post again, please
[02:03] <matthewjames> yea
[02:03] <PWill> brian98, that wasn't me, that was somone else
[02:03] <`123> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1467227#post1467227
[02:03] <brian98> pwill: sorry
[02:03] <`123> thanks for the help folks, this one has been bugging me for a long while
[02:04] <TylerDurdener> !codecs
[02:04] <magnet> mhh, well I'm too tired right now, it's 2 am and I work tomorrow
[02:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:04] <sethk> matthewburke, if something works by ip but not by name, you have a DNS Problem
[02:04] <brian98> matthewjames: go to a shell type 'telnet localhost 80
[02:04] <magnet> so I can't help you, but i'm sure it's nothing
 ok, then what?
[02:04] <magnet> brian98: he can get it to work in the browser already
[02:04] <brian98> tell me what you get
[02:04] <brian98> ok
[02:04] <brian98> what kind of router config he got?
[02:04] <matthewjames> Escape character is '^] '.
[02:04] <sethk> `123, unfortunately, that's a firmware bug
[02:05] <`123> oh?
[02:05] <magnet> brian98: he supposedly forwarded port 80 :)
[02:05] <`123> what a pain :(
[02:05] <sethk> `123, debian just announced that they were going to switch cd record programs, because ...
[02:05] <brian98> ok...
[02:05] <matthewjames> root@ubuntu:~# telnet localhost 80
[02:05] <matthewjames> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[02:05] <matthewjames> Connected to localhost.localdomain.
[02:05] <matthewjames> Escape character is '^] '.
[02:05] <brian98> don't paste....
[02:05] <matthewjames> kk
[02:05] <sethk> `123, while the author of cdrecord is very good, he often says "bad firmware" or "kernel bug" instead of working around the problem
[02:05] <magnet> matthewjames: you should get some HTML there
[02:05] <harisund> has anybody actually compiled mplayer from source, or used binaries from the mplayer website rather than the one from the repositories/
[02:05] <brian98> what type of router have you got?
[02:05] <matthewjames> netgear
[02:05] <`123> ah, so this is an actual legit bug?
[02:05] <sethk> `123, he's right that it's a firmware problem, but just saying to people "buy another drive" isn't helpful
[02:06] <sethk> `123, oh, yes, definitely
[02:06] <`123> yeah
[02:06] <`123> i cant buy another drive
[02:06] <TylerDurdener> magnet, check your IM please
[02:06] <bruenig> harisund, for what reason
[02:06] <`123> anything i can do to resolve it?
[02:06] <jvai_> 123, have u tried toggling tru the way u burn, like *tao* dao*default*? i know i coulldnt use tao when burning data cd's, but use default
[02:06] <magnet> TylerDurdener: my IM?
[02:06] <sethk> `123, try searching the archives of the cdrecord mailing list
[02:06] <TylerDurdener> magnet I sent you a whisper
[02:06] <`123> ok
 netgear
[02:06] <harisund> bruenig: just curious. I compiled my firefox from source :) so I thought I would do that as well ..
[02:06] <TylerDurdener> magnet: I'm using GAIM to also access IRC and it calls it IM :P
[02:06] <magnet> TylerDurdener: you have to register or identify your nick to PM
[02:06] <sethk> `123, there are so many types of cd burners, nobody can remember the details of all of them.  At least, I can't.
[02:06] <bruenig> harisund, why did you compile it from source?
[02:06] <`123> out of curiosity, how did ya know this was a firmware bug?
[02:07] <`123> for my knowledge
[02:07] <TylerDurdener> !nick
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <sethk> `123, because burn-free happens entirely within the drive under the control of the firmware
[02:07] <sethk> `123, one thing that might help is to turn on scsi emulation for the burner and try it again
[02:07] <brian98> matthewjames: http://www.portforward.com/ is your only man!!!!
[02:07] <brian98> Come back if stuck
[02:07] <matthewjames> been there
[02:07] <`123> let me try that
[02:07] <sethk> `123, since kernel 2.6, scsi emulation is no longer required for an ide burner, but it can still be used.
[02:08] <sethk> `123, nothing to lose by trying, except a cd blank.
[02:08] <harisund> bruenig: hmmm.. let's just say, for fun? Well, I know it's not fun to see stuff scroll by your screen.. but I do like to read the code, see how my modifications affect it and stuff like that..and I hvae a lot of stuff compiled from source on my machine ...
[02:08] <`123> ok
[02:08] <`123> true
[02:08] <`123> i have plenty of cds :)
[02:08] <jvai_> lol
[02:08] <magnet> mh
[02:08] <harisund> DBO: are you around?
[02:08] <magnet> Clubbed: try again pm'ing me
[02:08] <magnet> i disabled the filter
[02:09] <bruenig> harisund, seems easier and better systemwise to have everything tracked by apt. Although I guess if you did a check install, that still works
[02:09] <bruenig> system wise*
[02:09] <brian98> I just tried connecting to your ip on port 80 and it's not open...
[02:09] <sethk> `123, odds are it will still fail, but blanks are cheap  :)
[02:09] <eaglescout> hi all, I have a question... can Ubuntu be dual-loaded on a windows computer with 2 hard drives, if so, can somebody help me through the installation?
[02:09] <magnet> eaglescout: yes and no :P
[02:09] <eaglescout> xP
[02:09] <sethk> eaglescout, as long as windows is on the first and linux on the second, yes
[02:09] <brian98> matthewjames I just tried connecting to your ip on port 80 and it's not open...
[02:09] <harisund> bruenig: yes, where possible I use checkinstall and have .deb files ... where not, well.... that is one thing that annoys me abut Linux, applications placing their files wherever they want. Most applications come with a make uninstall capability .. but for those that don't :(
[02:10] <cynical> eaglescout: agreed, as long as windows is on the first
[02:10] <sethk> eaglescout, xp is bitchy if it isn't the first partition of the first drive
[02:10] <harisund> bruenig: and where possible I use ./configure --prefix=/opt/name as well....
 well i just opened, and 80 been opened this whole time, accordsing to the router pahge
[02:11] <`123> yup
[02:11] <`123> i just hope i have the option enabled in my kernel...
[02:11] <eaglescout> I don't have XP.  I have 2000 Pro.  will that make a difference  (The C: drive is my primary, and it's windows.)
[02:11] <brian98> matthewjames and is nat setup to forward 80 to your ubuntu box?
[02:11] <cynical> eaglescout: nah you can install just fine
[02:11] <matthewjames> um, in router page?
[02:11] <NthDegree> eaglescout, 2000 and XP are very closely related
[02:11] <brian98> yes
[02:11] <eaglescout> okay, I'm just scared because I don't want to kill my computer. xP
[02:11] <matthewjames> um i need to find where nat is 1 sec
[02:12] <nozorro> eaglescout: fwiw, it was the same win Win NT (being bitchy if not on the first hd)
[02:12] <NthDegree> eaglescout, so when people say XP it will usually work for 2000 aswell
[02:12] <eaglescout> okay
[02:12] <cynical> matthewjames: what is the make and model of your router?
[02:12] <brian98> mattherjames: you gotta do port forwarding and setup a nat rule and possible a firewall rule depending on how good/bad your firewall/router is
[02:12] <brian98> cynical: netgear
[02:12] <cynical> what model netgear?
[02:12] <brian98> all the info is at portforward.com
[02:12] <brian98> even tests that it works..
[02:12] <cynical> yeah I was going to suggest that
[02:12] <runes2006> what application would you use to RDC to a windows machine?
[02:13] <saeal> Hey guys, another quick quetsion
[02:13] <cynical> he said hes trying to find the page, there are tutorials with pictures on that site
[02:13] <brian98> runes2--6 RDP?
 netgear, WGR614v6
[02:13] <runes2006> connect to a remote desktop
[02:13] <brian98> terminal server client
[02:13] <runes2006> from linux to windows
[02:13] <brian98> under applications internet
[02:13] <`123> err... is scsi emulation a kernel option in 2.6?
[02:13] <saeal> I'm going througha walk through with downloading resources, and it says E: Could not get lock /var/blah blah - open (11 Resource temporaily unavailable)
[02:14] <eaglescout> Okay, to make Ubuntu on my secondary drive, do I just save it to my secondary drive, or is there more?
[02:14] <`123> its not under block devices :(
[02:14] <cynical> matthewjames: this is for forwarding apache, http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WGR614v6/Apache.htm
[02:14] <runes2006> got it thx!
[02:14] <matthewjames> im there allready followed steps, still no work
[02:14] <stormchas3r> who can I talk to about implementing ubuntu at my work?
[02:14] <brendonjt> hi ya all
[02:14] <nozorro> saeal: maybe you have another software installation app running?
[02:14] <jvai_> i installed squid proxy cache, how do i filter port 3128, even tho it's listening on the localhost?
[02:14] <saeal> ah
[02:14] <brian98> runes2006: if you want sound choose rdpv5
[02:14] <saeal> nozorro: thanks! fiqure I left the auto updater on
[02:15] <jvai_> i have firestarter
[02:15] <runes2006> got it brian98 thanx
[02:15] <cynical> matthewjames: check here to see if it is really forwarded or not, https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[02:15] <brian98> matthewjames: have you any other machines on your lan
[02:15] <nozorro> saeal: that's it. they're relying on the same backend
[02:15] <cynical> matthewjames: in the box enter 80 and hit custom port probe
[02:15] <matthewjames> my dads, but its on standby
[02:15] <saeal> nozorro: yup I got it now.
[02:15] <matthewjames> k
[02:15] <james296> how can I enable more screen resolutions?
[02:15] <ripper> who's got the abacus
[02:15] <cynical> matthewjames: if it fails the stealth check, that means its open. If it passes, :\
[02:15] <saeal> nozorro: I'm not used to an updater, they don't have that in debian. It's a nice feature
[02:16] <james296> I mean from that terminal screen setup thing...
[02:16] <nozorro> saeal: yep
[02:16] <matthewjames> k
[02:16] <brian98> cynical: I just ran a port scan, they all look closed
[02:16] <james296> well?
[02:16] <matthewjames> cynical it says its open
[02:16] <cynical> brian98: well if you are trying to forward, then it hasnt been done properly
[02:16] <matthewjames> cynical it says its open
[02:17] <cynical> mattewjames: then your port is forwarded, what are you trying to setup?
[02:17] <matthewjames> apache, and it is, but cant access by ip
[02:17] <brian98> it's open now
[02:17] <brian98> I can access it now matthewjames
[02:17] <cynical> you need to check the apache config files, make sure that its letting people access it
[02:17] <brian98> you changed something
[02:17] <cynical> heh good
[02:17] [coreymon77(n=coreymon@CPE000f663685cd-CM0011e67c2935.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)]  hi
[02:17] <matthewjames> um, would that be in bin?
[02:17] <magnet> grrrrrr
[02:17] <cynical> brian98 says it works now
[02:17] <der0b> if you configure amarok in kubuntu and then install the ubuntu-desktop do you need to do anything special for amarok?  it seems to hang rebuilding my collection :(
[02:18] <magnet> you hadn't properly set you router?!
[02:18] <brian98> matthewjames: Welcome to XAMPP for Linux 1.5.3a !
[02:18] <magnet> (i knew it! :P)
[02:18] <matthewjames> where is it?
[02:18] <magnet> http://70.226.214.251/xampp/
[02:18] <matthewjames> yay
[02:18] <cynical> ha
[02:18] <cynical> fun
[02:19] <brian98> what did you change grrrrr :)
[02:19] <matthewjames> umm guys, it only works when i open from xchat...
[02:19] <matthewjames> ok, i finnally got it!!!
[02:20] <matthewjames> thankyou alot guys for all the help!
[02:20] <jvai_> i installed squid proxy cache, how do i filter port 3128, even tho it's listening on the localhost?
[02:20] <matthewjames> 1 last thing
[02:20] <cynical> course
[02:20] <matthewjames> my pc wont shut down properly, when i click it, it freezes at a black screen...
[02:20] <eaglescout> okay, i'm downloading Ubuntu now.  I'm trying the Desktop CD thing.  Is that the best thing for me right now?
[02:20] <cynical> eaglescout: yes
[02:20] <brian98> eaglescout: yup
[02:20] <bruenig> alternate
[02:21] <brian98> what he says!
[02:21] <james296> how can I reset xorg?
[02:21] <bruenig> !xconfig
[02:21] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:21] <brendonjt> eaglescout: yip
[02:21] <cynical> james296: sudo dpkg-reconfig --- damn beat me
[02:21] <cynical> jalskdfjsd
[02:21] <matthewjames> cynical or brian98, can help me find out why my pc wont logout, shutdown etc, it freezes at black screen?
[02:22] <eaglescout> thanks for helping me! I'll be back after I have uBuntu installed!
[02:22] <eaglescout> Ubuntu*
[02:22] <brendonjt> eaglescout: ok have fun
[02:22] <cynical> hmm
[02:22] <brian98> matthewjames, shounds like a service isn't shtting down, any ideas cynical?
[02:22] <cynical> not yet
[02:22] <matthewjames> hmmm
[02:23] <brian98> matthewjames: if you hit ctrl alt f1 then login
[02:23] <brian98> type sudo reboot -n
[02:23] <matthewjames> nope, it freezes to
[02:23] <brian98> does that work
[02:23] <matthewjames> nope, it freezes to
[02:23] <brian98> which log would you check that in cynical?
[02:23] <cynical> matthewjames: try disabling usplash, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/usplash
[02:23] <matthewjames> kk
[02:24] <ColonelPanic001> Ubuntu, for the second time in about 2 or 3 days, just randomly restarted. Anything recent happen with updates or something by chance?
[02:24] <matthewjames> ok, now what, try to standby?
[02:24] <cynical> brian98: if you are right, and its a service, he should look in init.d and see what hes running
[02:24] <cynical> I think usplash is the problem though
[02:24] <ColonelPanic001> I wasn't doing anything crazy. Just playing Amarok and downloading a PDF in firefox. :\
[02:24] <bur[n] er_> anyone know if it's possible to make a .deb that just copies a bunch of files to a user's ~/ ?  I'm trying to think of the best way to package a theme.  gdm, icons, colors, toolbar positions, etc.
[02:24] <brian98> I'll go with your better judgement ;)
[02:25] <matthewjames> so try to standby?
[02:25] <atroWork> bur[n] er, yup, just read some of the tutorials on package building
[02:25] <cynical> reboot and try to shutdown again
[02:25] <matthewjames> kk
[02:25] <bruenig> bruner, why not make a tar.gz of all your stuff, then write a script that copies it all and run the script
[02:25] <matthewjames> if im not back for a while, u not happened
[02:25] <bur[n] er_> bruenig: would like uninstall support via package manager
[02:25] <brian98> you could try sudo shutdown -n
[02:26] <bur[n] er_> maybe a .package would be better?
[02:26] <bruenig> bur[n] er, ah
[02:26] <brian98> see if that works?
[02:26] <brian98> you could try sudo shutdown -f even
[02:26] <brian98> sorry
[02:26] <bur[n] er_> er.. .autopackage or something like that
[02:26] <viator> my isi bought a camera and said i need help installing it i said what for  she had all these cd's  etc i said throw those out she plugged it in and it was instantly recognized and her photos were being transfered in a matter of moments
[02:26] <viator> my sister*
[02:26] <ColonelPanic001> Any ideas on my thing, by chance? Just seems odd that seemingly for no reason at all, ubuntu rebotoed. Hard reboot, like I hit the power switch
[02:26] <cynical> viator: nice
[02:26] <saeal> another quick question: How do you "recomplile the kernel module after each kernel update"?
[02:26] <brian98> colonelpanic001: I'd say hardware...
[02:26] <viator> that is easier than xp anyday
[02:26] <brian98> PSU perhaps
[02:26] <brian98> ?
[02:26] <WD_Raptor> I need an op fast please
[02:26] <ColonelPanic001> brian98, sounds it, eh? I have no idea though, it's never been a problem
[02:26] <cynical> same, maybe its overheating?
[02:26] <bruenig> !ops
[02:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:27] <atroWork> ColonelPanic001, sorry, I use amarok constantly and download pdfs from time to time, I've experience no problems lately
[02:27] <viator> install uselless bloated cds drivers etc
[02:27] <brian98> yeah heat!
[02:27] <brian98> always a prob
[02:27] <ColonelPanic001> hm
[02:27] <viator> ubuntu ownz
[02:27] <ColonelPanic001> could be....
[02:27] <brian98> could be the bios thermal protection kicking in
[02:27] <brian98> try disabling it
[02:27] <brian98> or get cpu temp monitor
[02:27] <ColonelPanic001> good thought, actually. Rather than disabling it, though, I'll see about cooling the computer better :P
[02:27] <ColonelPanic001> hehe
[02:27] <brian98> can't remember the name of the package, cynical?
[02:27] <Hobbsee> bruenig: ?
[02:28] <cynical> brian98: I didnt know there was one lol. He could always check his bios though
[02:28] <Hobbsee> WD_Raptor: what for?
[02:28] <bruenig> Hobbsee, WD_Raptor wan't you
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ?
[02:28] <WD_Raptor> I need IT KNOW
[02:28] <bruenig> wants*
[02:28] <WD_Raptor> please
[02:28] <Clinton__> what's a good pcmcia usb G wireless key that works with ubuntu?
[02:28] <Clinton__> pcmcia or usb
[02:28] <weswh-> how can i change the port that my ssh daemon is running on?
[02:28] <Clinton__> weswh-: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:28] <gnomefreak> WD_Raptor: what do you want an op for?
[02:28] <weswh-> clinton - how do i restart it after editing?
[02:28] <brian98> is it sudo apt-get install hardware-monitor cputemp
[02:28] <WD_Raptor> Someone is doing something to me
[02:28] <WD_Raptor> I need someone NOW!
[02:28] <Clinton__> weswh-: then after you've edited it, as root /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[02:28] <WD_Raptor> pleae
[02:28] <gnomefreak> WD_Raptor: in this channel?
[02:28] <viator> isnt there a hardware database
[02:28] <brian98> is it sudo apt-get install hardware-monitor cpu
[02:29] <viator> ?
[02:29] <WD_Raptor> please, can an op PM me
[02:29] <cynical> Clinton__: http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=19&FamID=33&ProdID=236
[02:29] <gnomefreak> WD_Raptor: pm me with the issue
[02:29] <ColonelPanic001> Sep  7 07:36:08 calypso exiting on signal 15
[02:29] <ColonelPanic001> Sep  7 07:36:09 calypso syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.
[02:29] <ColonelPanic001> that looks to be the message in the /var/log/messages.
[02:29] <Clinton__> cynical: do you have exp with that?
[02:29] <NthDegree> WD_Raptor, PM me if someone is trying exploits on you
[02:29] <cynical> Clinton__: It was automatically detected by ubuntu. And even if it isnt all you have to do is modprobe zd1211 and its ready to go
[02:29] <brian98> it wasn'tme
[02:29] <naknomik> Is there a way to install Ubuntu from a USB key?
[02:29] <cynical> Clinton__: yes I use it daily without issue
[02:30] <Clinton__> cynical: excellent!  dapper seems to have dropped support for my belkin card :(
[02:30] <saeal> another quick question: How do you "recomplile the kernel module after each kernel update"?
[02:30] <Clinton__> it worked on older versions of ubuntu....
[02:30] <cynical> Clinton__: tell me about it, my bro has a broadcom :\
[02:30] <cynical> Clinton__: seems to get easier with each kernel update, anyway that g card can be bought for like $20-30
[02:31] <Clinton__> cynical: good!  I like cheap
[02:31] <Clinton__> thats why I refuse to buy Windows :)
[02:31] <brian98> colonelpanic001: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245216&page=2 sounds like it! ?
[02:31] <brian98> something to do with IPV6
[02:32] <viator> yeah because windows is cheap  ly   made
[02:32] <saeal> How do you recompile the kernel module?
[02:33] <viator> broadcom works
[02:33] <viator> just not automagically
[02:33] <iceman> They should distribute a Ubuntu Cluster Distro
[02:33] <viator> and depends on which broadcom chispet
[02:33] <fiveiron> i think i just might have to code a gnome toolbar applet to track digg stories...
[02:34] <tristanbob> can someone give me the exact name and path of hte xorg.conf file?
[02:35] <saeal> tristanbob /etc/X11/
[02:35] <tristanbob> I was trying to install nvidia driver... ran into problems
[02:35] <brian98> /etc/X11
[02:35] <tristanbob> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:35] <`123> oh... i had a bear with that
[02:35] <tristanbob> it gave a warning about md5 not matching
[02:36] <saeal> How do you recompile the kernel module? can anyone tell me?
[02:36] <`123> redownload it?
[02:36] <tristanbob> it thought I had manually edited xorg conf, which I didn't
[02:36] <viator> if your card doesnt work with ndiswrapper
[02:36] <viator> and theres no native driver
[02:36] <Clinton__> ugh.. what's a good gui cd iso burner?
[02:36] <viator> try the linuxtant driverloader
[02:36] <`123> k3b
[02:36] <tristanbob> viator: I have nvidia motherboard, built in graphics
[02:37] <viator> k3b gnomebaker etc
[02:37] <brian98> colonelpanic001: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245216&page=1 even
[02:37] <brian98> sorry
[02:37] <viator> im sorry i wasnt referring to graphics but to wireless cards
[02:37] <naknomik> I have a JMicron JMB363 chip on my MOBO for supporting PATA, the Ubuntu install CD does not support this yet, kernel 2.6.16 does, so I'm trying to install using a USB key, can I do that?
[02:37] <tristanbob> how can I restore the xorg.conf, I think that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" made a copy
[02:38] <`123> !xconfig
[02:38] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:38] <ColonelPanic001> brian98, yeah, kind of
[02:38] <ColonelPanic001> I'll look at it more in a bit, thanks for the help
[02:38] <viator> you can install from a usb key i guess
[02:38] <ColonelPanic001> linear algebra calls
[02:38] <ColonelPanic001> >.<
[02:38] <saeal> How do you recompile the kernel module?
[02:38] <viator> but youd need a floppy or cdrom to tell the pc to loook at the usb
[02:38] <tristanbob> `123: that might work - I'd prefer to just use the copy that was made
[02:38] <EriK> Tristanbob: it will usually leave an xorg.conf.nv in your /etc/X11 directory
[02:38] <brian98> (:/)
[02:39] <`123> k well try
[02:39] <Clinton__> viator: yea I knew of k3b, was trying to stick with a gnome one tho, I'll give gnomebaker a shot
[02:39] <`123> ls /etc/X11
[02:39] <`123> then just  sudo cp xorg.conf.whatever xorg.conf
[02:39] <viator> clinton cd burning is built in
[02:39] <viator> to ubuntu
[02:39] <tristanbob> `123: cool - I am looking at that
[02:39] <saeal> nozorro: could you tell me how to recompile the kernel module?
[02:40] <viator> but gnome baker will give you a litle more control
[02:40] <Clinton__> viator: not right now - I had to switch to straight Debian because of dapper refuses to recognize my belkin card
[02:40] <Clinton__> viator: so I'm burning the new edgy .iso to see if it has been re-supported (crossing fingers)
[02:40] <viator> what chipset
[02:40] <jonlandrum> Hey guys, sorry to interrupt. I've got a problem with my install.
[02:40] <Clinton__> viator: Belkin pcmcia F5D6020 (chipset 2 I believe)
[02:40] <brian98> anyone ever get a hack to run firefox on a dual head on 2 different monitors ?
[02:41] <viator> ask cafuego
[02:41] <Clinton__> brian98: if your X is setup dualhead, then you don't need to hack firefox
[02:41] <viator> hes handy with wireless
[02:41] <viator> if hes around
[02:41] <jonlandrum> I tried installing ubuntu, but the install didn't finish. It gave an error and quit.
[02:41] <Clinton__> cafuego: knock knock?
[02:41] <robert_> how do I fix 'perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C")'. ?
[02:41] <brian98> Clinton_ : U can only run it on one monitor at a time.
[02:41] <Clinton__> brian98: says who?
[02:41] <brian98> If you have it on mon1 then try on mon2 it gives you an error
[02:41] <brian98> MY COMPUTER
[02:42] <brian98> :)
[02:42] <viator> dual heads work
[02:42] <viator> not easily though
[02:42] <Clinton__> brian98: ah.. well.. I've seen it done, but have no done it myself
[02:42] <jonlandrum> How do I wipe my drive?
[02:42] <azureal> hi, how do i go about making my gtk font larger
[02:42] <brian98> It thinks it's hung
[02:42] <Clinton__> brian98: firefox is hung?  or X?
[02:42] <brian98> because it can't detect itself on the desktop.
[02:43] <brian98> nah, it just throws an error if you have it open on the other monitor
[02:43] <Clinton__> brian98: if you have more than one X running, then yes, that would be a problem
[02:43] <brian98> there has to be a hack for it :)
[02:43] <brian98> grrrrrrr
[02:43] <Clinton__> brian98: firefox creates a lock file for itself, and if it is started up will try to attach itself to the current X session that is associated with the lock
[02:44] <brian98> install a second copy of firefox on x:1
[02:44] <brian98> ?
[02:44] <azureal> anyone? you know you like gtk =)
[02:44] <matthewjames> BRIAN98
[02:44] <`123> anyone know how to get scsi emulation working for cdrecord in 2.6 kernel?
[02:44] <viator> fonts in gconf maybe?
[02:44] <viator> i dinno
[02:44] <brian98> but then you gotta sync bookmarks etc..
[02:44] <matthewjames> i cant boot into linux now!
[02:44] <brian98> don't fancy that
[02:44] <brian98> matthewjames: Can I help you Sir
[02:44] <Clinton__> brian98: nope, does'nt work that way :)
[02:44] <matthewjames> since u had me chmod that file
[02:44] <der0b> I just installed the ubuntu-desktop on my Kubuntu install.  for some reason ~/bin is no longer in my path (the if statement for it is in ~./bash_profile, and I have rebooted).  any ideas?
[02:44] <Clinton__> brian98: why don't you work on getting a proper dual head setup with just one X session?
[02:45] <nozorro> saeal: are u new to linux. then compiling the driver will be difficult for your. i would have to look up the details myself
 i cant even boot into ubuntu now
[02:45] <Clinton__> der0b: ~./bash_profile may not be sourced, try adding the lines in .bashrc as well
[02:45] <saeal> nozorro: I'm relativly new
[02:45] <Clinton__> damn.. I sure am helpful when I'm waiting on CD's to burn :)
[02:45] <nozorro> saeal: your card simply isn't well supported afaik
[02:45] <PathagenX> I will return!
[02:45] <der0b> is there a way to call bash_profile?
[02:45] <cynical> matthewjames: just renable usplash, sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/usplash
i can still login, but its ll command line
[02:46] <matthewjames> ok, brb
[02:46] <siljedal> Hi I'm having truble configuring my screen resolution... runnning a 6600 AGP card  and it seems to be locked to 640x480......
[02:46] <viator> so chmod it back to its previos permissions
[02:46] <viator> lol
[02:46] <sugarpill> Hello all, I am trying to install mplayer.. and im having some problems... could anyone point me in the right direction... here is what im getting http://pastebin.ca/163885
[02:46] <saeal> nozorro: well I'm installing a new driver for it, I just need to "recompile the kernel module"
[02:46] <Clinton__> der0b: yes, but it could result in an infinite loop between the .bash_profile and .bashrc
[02:46] <iceman> anyone used Kororaa is a LiveCD ?
[02:46] <nozorro> saeal: that's what ati says ?
[02:47] <nozorro> saeal: gimme your exact card model again pls.
[02:47] <iceman> anyone used Kororaa LiveCD the XGL distro.
[02:47] <Clinton__> der0b: ensure that the files have the execute bit set
[02:47] <der0b> that wouldn't be any good :P, I've update .bashrc..  how can I 'reload' it now?
[02:47] <saeal> nozorro: no that's what the Ubuntu Dapper Installation guite says.
[02:47] <jonlandrum> quit
[02:47] <saeal> nozorro: Radeon X1800
[02:47] <siljedal> Hi I'm having truble configuring my screen resolution... runnning a 6600 AGP card  and it seems to be locked to 640x480...... plz give me help in here cause reading web pages in 640x480 is HELL!!!!
[02:48] <brian98> clinton__ There is a directive you can  put in the to the session session of xorg.conf that does that ala windows dual display but there are many downsides
[02:48] <der0b> that did the trick clinton__, much appreciated.
[02:48] <brian98> Matthewjames: What did you do?
[02:48] <Clinton__> der0b: no problem
[02:48] <Clinton__> brian98: yup, there sure is!  and I don't know a damn thing about them :)
[02:48] <Ych> siljedal, du you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[02:48] <saeal> nozorro: btw, I'm following method 2 from this article: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[02:49] <adamlazz> hey all... ive been using the live DVD for a while, and I want to install ubuntu soon. is there a way that I could do this with a way to still have windows as the default OS, and just hop on ubuntu from some sort of shortcut?
[02:49] <viator> siljedal lets see your sources.list
[02:49] <adamlazz> pm
[02:49] <viator> pastebin it
[02:49] <Clinton__> adamlazz: a shortcut from Windows?
[02:49] <viator> adamlazz no
[02:49] <viator> you cann make an image
[02:49] <Clinton__> siljedal: thats OK, we all once were
[02:49] <viator> vamware
[02:49] <adamlazz> yeah, like a desktop icon so i could launch
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Is anyone familiar with setting up guarddog firewall manager
[02:49] <viator> vmware
[02:50] <Clinton__> adamlazz: nope, sorry, it doesn't work that way, you can try a dual boot tho and still have both
[02:50] <adamlazz> but i will lose RAM?
[02:51] <Clinton__> adamlazz: no you won't, you would see a decrease in hard drive space on your windows partition however
[02:51] <siljedal> is there some commands i can runn in terminal to manually change the resolution and Hz
[02:51] <nozorro> saeal: pls ask somewhere whether the package xorg-driver-fglrx supports your card or not, or just install it and see for yourself
[02:51] <adamlazz> yeah.... thats a given..
[02:51] <Clinton__> adamlazz: thats if you can resize the partition (if you don't know what you're doing, then DON'T DO THAT)
[02:51] <brian98> Clinton__ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama
[02:51] <brian98> thats the one
[02:51] <Clinton__> brian98: thanks, but I'll probly never use it hehe
[02:51] <Telroth`> siljedal, shutdown X, edit /etc/X/xorg.conf, then start X back up
[02:51] <viator> adamlazz try vmware
[02:51] <saeal> nozorro: Tried that allready, so I'm proceeding with backup plans
[02:51] <adamlazz> but, will I have to launch windows or linux from BIOS everytime I decide to hop on linux?
[02:51] <brian98> it's handy if someone asks ;)
[02:51] <viator> siljedal
[02:51] <viator> i want to see your sources.list
[02:51] <driz__> hello all, any idea why i cant set a higher resolution than 1024x768?
[02:52] <brian98> Matthewjames: What did you do?
[02:52] <nozorro> saeal: sorry for you :-)
[02:52] <Clinton__> brian98: true!
[02:52] <viator> because of your mplayer problem
[02:52] <Telroth`> driz__, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:52] <Clinton__> driz__: does your video card and monitor support higher resolutions?
[02:52] <saeal> nozorro: could you possibly tell me how to recompile the kernel module?
[02:52] <driz__> Clinton__, yes, its an ati radeon 9600 (128mb)
[02:52] <Clinton__> driz__: what Telroth`said
[02:52] <saeal> nozorro: or possibly point me in the right direction of doucmentation?
[02:52] <driz__> Telroth`, how will that fix it?
[02:53] <siljedal> Telroth: thnx I'll try that
[02:53] <adamlazz> but, will I have to launch windows or linux from BIOS everytime I decide to hop on linux?
[02:53] <nozorro> saeal: no i can't, i haven't done such a thing in ages. you're best off in the forums i believe
[02:53] <Telroth`> driz__, it should rescan your gfx card and rewrite xorg.conf
[02:53] <port> try 855resolution or 915resolution
[02:53] <viator> no adamlazz grub comes up and you choose what to boot
[02:53] <port> look on the forums for that
[02:53] <driz__> Telroth`, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <port> yeah
[02:53] <adamlazz> alright
[02:53] <driz__> Telroth`, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:54] <driz__> Telroth`, that isnt the right command.
[02:54] <sid> With the Dapper live cd for x86, I have an Ati 9100, and it defaulted to 640x480 resolution, and I can't even see the whole installer window.
[02:54] <Telroth`> driz__, what is?
[02:54] <sid> And I went to Desktop/Preferences/Screen Resolution, but there is only one choice, 60hz and 640x480
[02:54] <adamlazz> and whats a good partition size?
[02:54] <sid> I edited xorg.conf and tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart; but with the livecd this does nothing.
[02:54] <Clinton__> adamlazz: what do you have?
[02:54] <driz__> Telroth`, i get this dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[02:55] <nozorro> saeal: if you have any money at all, try to get a cheap supported nvidia card somewhere if you need 3D. The old ati 3d rage cards also worked nicely ... (only 2D though)
[02:55] <brian98> Man skype is really unstable on linux
[02:55] <siljedal> dam what was that command do be root in terminal again....
[02:55] <adamlazz> 40 GB HD
[02:55] <brian98> I wish I didn't have to use it...
[02:55] <sid> Anyone know about the dapper live cd?(the main installer disc)
[02:55] <Clinton__> driz__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ....
[02:55] <viator> make sure he defrags windows before resizing the partion
[02:55] <adamlazz> and its already partitioned into 20/20
[02:55] <port> sid: take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24923
[02:55] <brian98> or is just me?
[02:55] <Clinton__> adamlazz: knock off 10gig then, use 1gig for swap space and 9 gig for ubuntu (it'll be MORE than enough)
[02:55] <Black_Bishop> Anyone use an external USB hard drive?  I just bought a Western Digital.  Works fine, but I'm wondering how I should unmount it.  With other removable storage devices (SD card, thumbdrive), I would just just hit "eject" on the menu, but this causes the HD to click pretty loudly.  Am I damaging the drive?  Should I just umount it in a terminal?
[02:56] <Clinton__> adamlazz: if its already partititioned, then you're good (except for the swap space)
[02:56] <viator> brain yeah
[02:56] <viator> 1.3 BETA
[02:56] <matt__`> i am on a fresh install of ubuntu and trying to checkout an svn repo - but it won't work. I enter my password, and it just keeps asking me to enter it again. and ideas what might be going on? it works on two other machines, so i am thinking maybe it is something different on ubuntu?
[02:56] <brian98> black_bishop: right click eject
[02:56] <viator> brian*
[02:56] <Renan_s2> Black_Bishop: it should umount automatically when you disconnect it.
[02:56] <adamlazz> Clinton__ but some of the second partition has windows files on it
[02:56] <brian98> matt__ wrong password
[02:56] <lumgwada> Hi, Is anyone here using devilspie to customise metacity windows?
[02:56] <matt__`> Brian98 no
[02:56] <Renan_s2> but if you want to be in the safe side, umount it on a terminal.
[02:56] <Clinton__> adamlazz: well move them to the first :)
[02:56] <Black_Bishop> brian98:  I shouldn't be concerned with the clicking?
[02:56] <adamlazz> hahah alrighty
[02:57] <matt__`> brian98 i am 100% sure password is correct
[02:57] <adamlazz> and whats swap space?
[02:57] <Clinton__> adamlazz: if they're program files that you installed to that partition, then you have your work cutout for you
[02:57] <Flappineagle> howdy , am i correct in assuming that this is a help channel?
[02:57] <matt__`> brian98: and if i try with wrong pass, it says permission denied, it doesnt say that with right pass, just keeps asking for it
[02:57] <Clinton__> adamlazz: swap space is virtual memory
[02:57] <Nalfeshnee> Hello.
[02:57] <brian98> hrm
[02:57] <adamlazz> okay, awesome
[02:57] <sid> port: That looks pretty complicated, there are like 2 dosen commands there.
[02:57] <sid> It's that hard to change my resoultion?
[02:57] <Clinton__> alright - time to reboot and test edgy :)
[02:57] <port> no
[02:58] <harisund> Clinton__ reboot?
[02:58] <viator> make swap about 512 mb or so
[02:58] <Nalfeshnee> I was wondering if anyone can walk me through uninstalling grub via the recovery console.
[02:58] <viator> upto you though
[02:58] <nozorro> Black_Bishop try 'sudo sync' in a terminal, with the drive mounted and some file moved to and fro. does it click in the same way?
[02:58] <nozorro> Black_Bishop: some files*
[02:58] <viator> why do you want to resintall grub?
[02:58] <Nalfeshnee> I want to uninstall it.
[02:58] <viator> uninstall*
[02:58] <sid> port: Also this talk about "patching" the Ubuntu...It's a livecd how do I patch that?
[02:58] <Nalfeshnee> I attempted to set up a dual boot.
[02:58] <sid> It's RO
[02:58] <Nalfeshnee> Windows wont boot now.
[02:59] <Nalfeshnee> Just before safe mode crash.
[02:59] <viator> Nalfeshnee did you defrag windows
[02:59] <viator> before you did that
[02:59] <Nalfeshnee> Yes.
[02:59] <viator> making a partion
[02:59] <adamlazz> alright, thanks for the help guys
[02:59] <viator> resizing that is
[02:59] <viator> cause if you didnt windows is borked
[02:59] <Black_Bishop> nozorro:  No clicking upon 'sudo sync'
[03:00] <ugarit> this is weird in gnome my volume controls are apposite?  - means increase volume while + means decrease! how could this be?
[03:00] <driz__> Telroth`, should i reboot after re doing the xorg config to see changes?
[03:00] <nozorro> Black_Bishop: which brings us back to where we started ...
[03:00] <viator> if you have your windows cd  it has a recovery console
[03:00] <viator> and it will rewrite of the mbr
[03:01] <Nalfeshnee> MMk.
[03:01] <Nalfeshnee> Thanks.:)
[03:01] <viator> look on the forums
[03:01] <weswh-> how can i tell which groups a user belongs to? and is there a group less powerful that 'users'? i want a user that has access only to their home dir, and nothing else
[03:01] <weswh-> (basically for file storage)
[03:01] <Clubbed> How come the files I transfer out of my ipod are named something like HYBC.mp3 instead of its actual filename?
[03:01] <Black_Bishop> ugarit:  Are you in the southern hemisphere?  You see, Ubuntu was written in the Northern hemisphere, so the Coriolis effect may reverse your volume control
[03:01] <nozorro> lol
[03:01] <Nalfeshnee> Rofl.
[03:01] <port> okay sid, try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114067 its more simple
[03:01] <Nalfeshnee> Dude, that is the best explanation i've ever heard in my life.
[03:01] <Nalfeshnee> Go go coriolis.
[03:02] <Nalfeshnee> And fuck the earth turning, it's annoying.><
[03:02] <ugarit> Black_Biship: lol, I'm in the north and it was working  correctly before
[03:02] <nozorro> nozorro: wondering what will happen on the equator ...
[03:02] <port> lol
[03:02] <Flappineagle> minor problem if anyones got the time, i cant seem to get xchat to connect to undernet ,what server do i add or is there an auto lookup
[03:03] <sid> port: How can I restart X with the livecd?
[03:04] <port> just do
[03:04] <gomek> Anyone know of any documentation on the web for modifying existing metapackages?
[03:04] <Telroth`> driz__, perhaps
[03:04] <port> CTRL+ALT+ Backspace
[03:04] <gomek> Or know how to do such a thing?
[03:04] <port> it will restart X
[03:04] <port> and then you just login
[03:04] <Telroth`> gomek, metapackages being .deb packages?
[03:04] <port> or just logout and log back in
[03:05] <Flappineagle> ok thanks for the help
[03:05] <gomek> telroth .deb packages without sources, such as ubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <Renan_s2> !skype
[03:06] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:06] <Flappineagle> cant even get anyone to acknowledge my existence much less help thanks a bunch
[03:07] <fourat2> how to install my new usb scanner ?
[03:07] <Telroth`> gomek, use dpkg --extract and dpkg --control to extract the files and control files
[03:07] <Telroth`> look up how they work
[03:07] <fourat2> as  this say : http://www.linux.com/howtos/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.shtml#USB-TYPE
[03:07] <Telroth`> also
[03:07] <fourat2> i have no scanner driver in my kernel modules
[03:07] <Telroth`> google "create .deb package" and click second link
[03:07] <fourat2> i wont recompile it
[03:07] <Telroth`> for how to repackage a .deb file
[03:07] <fourat2> i wont recompile the kernel
[03:08] <fourat2> does debs resolve the problem
[03:08] <fourat2> ?
[03:08] <nozorro> fourat2: have you looked around for a linux driver?
[03:08] <viator> forat2 see if its supported by ane
[03:08] <viator> first
[03:08] <viator> sane*
[03:09] <fourat2> nozorro, no :)
[03:09] <viator> fourat2 what scanner is it?
[03:10] <fourat2> genius colorpage-vivid 1200XE
[03:11] <viator> fourat2
[03:11] <viator> ok
[03:11] <viator> its supported
[03:11] <viator> and theres drivers
[03:11] <viator> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-GENIUS
[03:11] <viator> howtos on there to
[03:12] <gomek> telroth` talking about the checkinstall link?
[03:12] <fourat2> viator, thx
[03:12] <viator> yw
[03:13] <tristanbob> `123:  ok - it looks like I got it working again - dpkg-reconfigure worked
[03:13] <tristanbob> `123: :) thanks for your help
[03:13] <JediWingKnight> Hello - I made a DVD with windows and because the file was 3.8 GB, it had to be UDF, but by ubuntu computer cant read it.
[03:14] <Skwid_> is it normal that, after an update, i only have gnome 2.14.3 ?
[03:14] <nozorro> JediWingKnight: what errors do you get
[03:15] <matt__`> i'm trying to apt-get install fuse-utils, and I am getting error 'Package fuse-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.', is there any way to still install this package?
[03:16] <brendonjt> matt_: have you tried using synaptic?
[03:18] <Skwid_> anyone ?
[03:18] <brian98> Matt__ Make sure that Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe fuse-utils 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 [48.4kB]  is in your sources list
[03:18] <nozorro> Skwid_: seems normal for a regular update -- unless you upgrade to next ubuntu version
[03:19] <Skwid_> how would i do that ?
[03:19] <Skwid_> dist-upgrade ?
[03:19] <lostinc> I was wondering when you use synaptic to download packages is there a way to preserve thos packages on a removable drive so that they can be shared on a private network?
[03:19] <nozorro> Skwid_: wait till Oct when next version will be ready -- still beta now
[03:19] <AngryElf_> ubuntu have somethin like norton ghost?
[03:20] <bruenig> !backup > AngryElf
[03:20] <Skwid_> nozorro: i use it for testing, not for production anyhow
[03:20] <bruenig> !backup > AngryElf_
[03:20] <Skwid_> nozorro: how can i get the EE packages ?
[03:20] <[adw] > hi, when i press ctrl+alt and f2, i get a console- is there any way to change the txt size for this console?
[03:20] <saeal> It worked
[03:20] <saeal> Just reboot'd
[03:20] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[03:20] <brian98> [adw]  ooi why?
[03:20] <brendonjt> lostinc: iirc i think they are cached on ur system,  i  can't remember where at the moment i think they are in /etc/apt/cache
[03:20] <jrsims> hey, is there a way to change my swap-space after installing ubuntu?
[03:20] <saeal> no need for random recompilke
[03:20] <nozorro> Skwid_: EE???
[03:20] <saeal> haulin!
[03:20] <lostinc> no not a ghost. But lets say I have 2 machines one on a network in the usa and another not on any network in ireland and i want to take any packages that I have downloaded (installed or not) with synaptic and take them to ireland for installation.
[03:20] <Skwid_> nozorro: edgy eft
[03:21] <nozorro> Skwid_: join #ubuntu+1 for that
[03:21] <AngryElf> bruenig, i'm talking about norton ghost server + pxe boot etc etc
[03:21] <brian98> lostinc: your in Ireland !
[03:21] <[adw] > brian98: because now its 640x480, i would like it somewhere in the 1024 range
[03:21] <bruenig> AngryElf, oh
[03:21] <matt__`> brian98: how do I add that to my sources/
[03:21] <bruenig> what was i thinking of
[03:21] <AngryElf> that could work with any image reall....windows/linux/whatever
[03:21] <brian98> [adw]  I don't think so but I could be well wrong
[03:21] <lostinc> lol just an example
[03:22] <jrsims> hey, is there a way to change my swap-space after installing ubuntu?
[03:22] <[adw] > brian98: thanks, guess ill google some more:)
[03:22] <bruenig> jrsims, what do you mean by change?
[03:22] <jrsims> bruenig: I need more swap space to run Oracle
[03:22] <brendonjt> lostinc: the packages that you download are cached on your system  have a look in /etc/apt/  and see whats in there  i think there is a cache folder in there
[03:23] <PathagenX> I return! :D
[03:23] <bruenig> jrsims, you can use the live cd to do it regardless of the situation. If you need to take space from one of the active partitions, you won't be able to without using the live cd because it requires deactivating them
[03:24] <lostinc> no luck brendonjt
[03:24] <jrsims> bruenig: will it hurt my current install?
[03:24] <bruenig> however, if you wanted to take space from a partition that isn't mounted or isn't essential like a data partition or something else, you could do it without the live cd
[03:24] <lostinc> Ill do a seach for cache
[03:24] <bruenig> jrsims, no
[03:24] <bruenig> in all likelihood, obviously nothing is 100 percent
[03:24] <jrsims> bruenig: and this is partitioning we're talking about, right?
[03:24] <fabianggx> my god how many servers!!!!
[03:24] <fabianggx> i'm spanish can help me?
[03:24] <brendonjt> lostinc: yip   cos i know that when i have removed a package  it reinstall it it doesn't connect to the net,  it takes it from a cache  somewhere
[03:24] <brian98> sudo pico /etc/sources.list
[03:25] <fabianggx> i need ubuntu help in spanish
[03:25] <brian98> matt__ 'sudo pico /etc/sources.list
[03:25] <NickGarvey> !es
[03:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:25] <brian98> !sources
[03:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:25] <matt__`> brian98: i can't seem to get it to work
[03:25] <NickGarvey> how do I edit my path variable?  I need to remove something but its not in .bashrc
[03:25] <brendonjt> !apt-get  cache
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get  cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <brian98> once sec
[03:25] <bruenig> jrsims, yeah, all you would have to do is resize a partition adjacent to the swap, then resize the swap to take up the newly made free space
[03:25] <Nalfeshnee> Linux utility that allows you to burn isos/
[03:25] <jrsims> bruenig: cool. thanks.
[03:26] <FlyingSquirrel31> am i the only one having trouble getting updates from "http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/"?
[03:26] <matt__`> err sorry brian98, do i copy the exact line you gave me into sources.list?
[03:26] <brian98> mat__' add deb-src http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[03:26] <bruenig> as long as you don't remove partitions, then the fstab will remain the same and you can just restart and take the live cd out
[03:26] <brian98> to the sources.list
[03:26] <brian98> save
[03:26] <brian98> then sudo apt-get update
[03:26] <fabianggx> gracias
[03:26] <matt__`> brian98 fuse-utils still gives same error
[03:27] <brian98> did you do the update as I said
[03:27] <matt__`> yes
[03:27] <Nalfeshnee> Sigh.
[03:27] <brian98> including sudo apt-get update
[03:27] <brian98> and did it give any errors?
[03:27] <matt__`> err didnt get that one, hold on
[03:28] <Nalfeshnee> Anyone know of a linux util that allows you to burn an iso?
[03:28] <Larry-au> Rob C. -- are you here?
[03:28] <brendonjt> lostinc: hey go here /var/cache/apt  and all your downloaded packages are in there
[03:28] <noige> I have install w32 codecs, mp3's play fine, flash with sound works, all browser sounds work... Why can I not hear sound in video?
[03:28] <FlyingSquirrel31> Nalfeshnee: If you're using ubuntu just right click on it and click burn to cd
[03:29] <nozorro> Nalfeshnee: under gnome, your file manager
[03:29] <Nalfeshnee> Aha.
[03:29] <Nalfeshnee> Thanks.:)
[03:29] <domin8or> hi, i download the cd (6.06) and then I boot the cd and it gives me an option start/install cd .. but then it boots like a live cd
[03:29] <domin8or> how can i install ubuntu to the harddrisk
[03:29] <bruenig> domin8or, click the install button on the desktop
[03:29] <mike> hey what is gtk
[03:29] <bruenig> gtk is a toolkit
[03:29] <brendonjt> domin8or: there is a option one you boot into the live cd to install it
[03:29] <bruenig> !gtk
[03:29] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[03:29] <noige> mike: gnome tookkit
[03:30] <matt__`> works now brian98, thanks
[03:30] <domin8or> oh
[03:30] <brian98> Matt__ Delighted to help man!
[03:30] <mike> noige:  ok then when i am at gnome-look.org why is there a gtk section
[03:30] <domin8or> i can even boot into the live cd ... thats why i was looking to install it
[03:30] <domin8or> any ideas?
[03:30] <brian98> glad it worked
[03:30] <noige> anyone have problems with sound inside their video
[03:30] <nozorro> domin8or: when you're on the desktop, there's an install icon i think
[03:30] <noige> mike: gimp toolkit
[03:30] <brian98> noige: is it flash
[03:30] <brendonjt> domin8or: there should be a icon on the desktop that says install,  that will start the installer
[03:30] <noige> mike: not gnome
[03:30] <FlyingSquirrel31> am i the only one having trouble getting updates from "http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/"?
[03:30] <domin8or> oh okey
[03:30] <noige> no it is mpeg
[03:30] <domin8or> what happens if i cant even boot the live cd?
[03:30] <brian98> noige: is it flash
[03:30] <noige> mp3 audio works fine
[03:31] <noige> brian98: no it is mpeg and mp3 streams work fine
[03:31] <Larry-au> Does anyone know how to do bandwith throttling in iptables (or the firewall)
[03:31] <JediWingKnight_> I tried installing "udftools_1.0.0b3-9_i386.deb" but it still wouldn't see it.
[03:31] <bruenig> domin8or, you can't install. You can use the alternate cd if you want
[03:31] <bruenig> !alternate
[03:31] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[03:31] <noige> all my flash/java everything web based iffine
[03:31] <brian98> mpeg don't work, mp3's do?
[03:31] <noige> I use alsa, alsamixer shows that my sound card is not muted
[03:31] <noige> brian98: yes video streams fine but no sound
[03:31] <bruenig> noige, flash and java has nothing to do with w32codecs
[03:31] <bruenig> have*
[03:31] <mike> noige:  so whats that mean
[03:31] <noige> bruenig: I know
[03:31] <matjan> hi, i have a problem with xmms (also in rhythmbox), it does not want to read some mp3s, whereas they are read in windoze media player... xmms sees the files but gives them as length 0:00... what could be the problem?
[03:32] <brian98> noige: have you tried VLC?
[03:32] <bruenig> from, this It seemed like you thought they did "noige> I have install w32 codecs, mp3's play fine, flash with sound works, all browser sounds work... Why can I not hear sound in video?"
[03:32] <noige> mike: what does what mean? Gimp toolkit?
[03:32] <bruenig> but perhaps you were just establishing that you have sound in some apps but not others
[03:32] <noige> bruenig: has a lot to do with no mpeg video streams in the browser working
[03:32] <mike> noige:  what dose it have to do with eye candy
[03:32] <brian98> call me biased
[03:33] <noige> brian98: I will try that
[03:33] <brian98> but VLC is the best all around media plaer
[03:33] <bruenig> mike, most of those gtk areas of gnome look are themes I believe
[03:33] <brian98> player
[03:33] <brian98> hands down
[03:33] <brian98> It will try and play an exe :)
[03:33] <brian98> lol
[03:33] <mike> bruenig:  themes for gnome, then whast the difference between gtk1 and gtk2
[03:33] <bruenig> versions
[03:33] <brian98> and if you want to get into using it for streaming stuff using it as a daemon
[03:33] <brian98> wow
[03:33] <brian98> it's superb
[03:34] <brian98> plus it handles everything without downloading all the codecs..
[03:34] <bruenig> mike go with gtk2 assuming you are running dapper
[03:34] <brian98> Anyone here familiar with cloneDVD for windows?
[03:34] <mike> bruenig:  edgy
[03:34] <bruenig> same then
[03:34] <mike> k
[03:34] <brian98> and is there a similar application for Linux?
[03:34] <noige> brian98: why is VLC superb?
[03:34] <mike> bruenig:  how do i install them
[03:35] <brendonjt> brian98:  what are you doing swearing (saying the w word lol)
[03:35] <brian98> solly
[03:35] <CyberPhantom> Good evening
[03:35] <brian98> windoze
[03:35] <Crippy-Boy> noige: it'll play [almost]  anything.
[03:35] <bruenig> mike, go to system>preferences>themes, and drag and drop the link or download it and then drag and drop the file you download
[03:35] <brian98> noige: honestly it will try and play a pdf
[03:35] <brian98> :)
[03:35] <brendonjt> brian98: hehe  that the one
[03:35] <NickGarvey> how do I edit my path variable?  I need to remove something but its not in .bashrc
[03:35] <brian98> but can you answer my q?
[03:35] <mike> bruenig:  k i thought they were somethign else
[03:36] <Larry-au> firewall - anyone done bandwidth throttling? ??how-to??
[03:36] <harisund> Is it possible to install Ubuntu inside Windows using VMware Server?
[03:36] <der0b> is there some way to find out what app is holding /dev/dsp open?
[03:36] <Flannel> harisund: I don't see why it wouldn't be
[03:36] <harisund> der0b: do fuser /dev/dsp
[03:36] <NthDegree> harisund, yes it is
[03:36] <brian98> noige: have you used VLC?
[03:36] <harisund> NthDegree and Flannel cool.. are there any particular instructions I should follow, or things to keep in mind?
[03:36] <CyberPhantom> Does anyone know if firestarter runs all the time even if you x out the window?
[03:36] <Crippy-Boy> Can i apply the ubuntu patches to a vanilla kernel?
[03:37] <der0b> harisund: didn't seem to help
[03:37] <NthDegree> harisund it should work just like installing to a regular PC
[03:37] <brian98> and brendonjt: can you answer my windoze question :)
[03:37] <noige> brian98: only on windows, I was not impressed with it on windows
[03:37] <brian98> it's amazing on nix for supporting fileformats
[03:37] <harisund> NthDegree: ok thanks .. will try .. perhaps I can try edgy that way?
[03:37] <NthDegree> harisund: but VMWare server was built for Windows Server 2003 so you may have problems
[03:37] <brian98> streaming rtsp mms ogg everything
[03:37] <brian98> it will even stream multicast streams
[03:38] <brian98> and thats only the tip of the iceberg
[03:38] <NthDegree> harisund: um yes you can try any x86/AMD64 compatible OS that way
[03:38] <harisund> der0b: I hope you are using fuser the right way.... I'm not sure, but the last time I wanted to know what was taking over my /dev/dsp somebody said fuser and that worked fine for me :)
[03:38] <brendonjt> brian98:i don't use windoze  sorry  umm have you tried k3b it  copies dvd's
[03:38] <harisund> thanks NthDegree I will give it a try :)
[03:38] <krazykit> so, amarok crashes rather often on two different machines.  is this just me?
[03:38] <brian98> does it compress dual layer down to 4.7
[03:38] <brian98> ?
[03:38] <brendonjt> brian98:with a bit of fiddling you can get dvdshrink  to work under wine
[03:38] <nozorro> CyberPhantom: in think a firestarter script runs at bootup, so yes. look in /etc/init.d
[03:38] <brian98> nothing native?
[03:38] <FlyingSquirrel31> krazykit: I didn't seem to me as stable as rhythmbox
[03:39] <brian98> clonedvd I miss
[03:39] <FlyingSquirrel31> krazykit: but it does more
[03:39] <krazykit> FlyingSquirrel31: the only problem is rhythmbox sucks :-/
[03:39] <noige> brian98: cool
[03:39] <krazykit> and doesn't play albums right
[03:39] <cycom> I've got a Sun Fire V880 that doesn't like booting from the CD, unless you do a cold boot.  If you don't cold boot, you get a sparc error.  Invalid Instruction and -256 and other bad bad things.  If I cold boot it, it'll go to loading kernel and then stop.  I have suspicions that it's going to the serial console, but I don't know.  Thoughts?
[03:39] <noige> why does the default media player not work with alsa though? If it is installed by default it should work
[03:40] <noige> cycom: grab solaris 10 it kicks ass
[03:40] <brian98> noige: it was originally a linux app ported to windows so I think it makes more sense when run in this enviroment..
[03:40] <cycom> noige: that's not the point.
[03:40] <noige> cycom: you askd for thoughts
[03:40] <noige> cycom: lol
[03:40] <cycom> noige: bastard! :)
[03:40] <brian98> cycom: opinions are opinions
[03:40] <brian98> you asked for me
[03:40] <brian98> em
[03:40] <brian98> I mean
[03:40] <cycom> hehe
[03:41] <noige> cycom: if it goes to the serial console you need to disable it in the grub config
[03:41] <noige> cycom:  is this post install or pre install
[03:41] <cycom> noige: pre.  this is the server install CD.
[03:41] <Kman> hey
[03:41] <Kman> .?
[03:42] <brian98> does anyone have any probs with x hanging once or twice a day?
[03:42] <Kman> is anyone here
[03:42] <noige> cycom: the only idea I have is to edit the commands that are sent to the bootloader
[03:43] <brendonjt> must go catcvh ya all latter
[03:43] <krazykit> brian98: no, not really.  are you using ati-drivers?
[03:44] <brian98> krazykit: Yes, is there known issues?
[03:44] <brian98> It's a bit annoying!
[03:44] <krazykit> brian98: only that ati drivers suck
[03:44] <cycom> noige: hrm...  It's Silo apparently
[03:44] <pinky> I booted the Dapper desktop CD on a new Dell Inspiron E1505, and there are 2 PCI devices it doesn't recognize.  It says the vendor for both is "Ricoh Co Ltd" but I think that's incorrect.  I think one may be the wireless NIC.
[03:44] <brian98> are there known issues I mean
[03:44] <iLikeSpoons> radeon 7000 or somesuch, brian?
[03:44] <brian98> that was terrible grammar :)
[03:44] <der0b> does anyone else notice some evil audio lag when using alsa and mplayer?
[03:44] <CyberPhantom> Anyone have a guide on how to upgrade gnome?
[03:44] <brian98> krazykit: any workarounds?
[03:44] <noige> cycom: lilo?
[03:44] <knix> pinky: what nic? I'm running a 1405 and I haven't had many problems
[03:44] <noige> cycom: or the sparc bootloader
[03:45] <iLikeSpoons> brian98: https://launchpad.net/bugs/16873
[03:45] <krazykit> brian98: but i've not had that problem with an x300.  but seriously, ati-drivers are really crummy.  either deal with it, buy an nvidia card, use the FOSS drivers, or try upgrading them yourself.
[03:45] <brian98> Is it really common with ATI?
[03:45] <noige> cycom: do you actually have an ok prompt?
[03:45] <pinky> knix: How can I tell which one it is?  The Device Manager says "Unknown"
[03:46] <noige> cycom: if you do you will have to tell the sun box to boot from the CD using the OK prompt commands
[03:46] <brian98> cause I have a spare nvidia card 'somewhere' looks at pile of hardware in corner that gf is throwing out tomorrow for the last month :)
[03:46] <deviosa> YouHOU
[03:46] <iLikeSpoons> brian, also, good luck with installing the nvidia drivers :D
[03:47] <knix> pinky: 0x0832 and 0x0843 ? I think they're part of the card reader
[03:47] <iLikeSpoons> (ie. no 3d hardware acceleration for me :( )
[03:47] <cycom> noige: sparc.  and I get an ok. boot cdrom gives the illegal instruction.
[03:47] <argnl> is an unbuntu system by default unable to connect to an ssh server?
[03:47] <cycom> after Loading initial ramdisk
[03:47] <pinky> knix: Yeah those!
[03:47] <brian98> ilikespoons I like challenges :)
[03:47] <iLikeSpoons> argnl, why would it be?
[03:48] <Rookie-> ssh is not installed as default, if you mean the server
[03:48] <brian98> argnl no
[03:48] <noige> cycom: did you give it the right device node at the ok prompt?
[03:48] <pinky> knix: OKay, well I don't see any wireless NIC in the Device Manager.
[03:48] <brian98> argnl ssh username@host
[03:48] <cycom> noige: eh?
[03:48] <knix> pinky: which wifi card did you get?
[03:48] <argnl> ok, thanks
[03:48] <noige> cycom: sometimes you will have to give it a device string to boot from even after you say  ok? boot cdrom
[03:48] <argnl> must be something wrong on the other end
[03:48] <Rookie-> closed ports ... ?
[03:49] <pinky> knix: I don't know, it's not my laptop.  Windows is still on it, and I want Ubuntu on it instead (for someone else).  I suppose I should boot into Windows and check?
[03:49] <pinky> Or is there another way under Ubuntu?
[03:49] <cycom> noige: it loads the kernel though...
[03:49] <fiveiron> will gnome 2.16 be added to repositories for dapper?
[03:49] <cycom> noige: on cold boot it works fine.
[03:50] <teimu> where can i download a torrent of the dapper install disc (iso)?
[03:50] <cycom> noige: but it doesn't ever get to the installer.
[03:51] <noige> cycom: can you do a prtconf -p -v?
[03:51] <knix> pinky: the nic is on the pci express bridge, should be at 0x4222
[03:51] <noige> cycom: do you have solaris on the box?
[03:51] <knix> pinky: at least that's where my centrino is
[03:52] <noige> cycom: what rev is your install image again?
[03:52] <nozorro> teimu: click your way through from http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:53] <psilverelf> hello all
[03:53] <noige> cycom: have you every upgraded your obp firmware before?
[03:53] <teimu> nozorro, ooo. i see. its in the file listing at the bottom. thanks!
[03:53] <pixelmonkey> I'm running Dapper on a HP DV2000 laptop which has Intel HDA built-in sound.  Though sound works, microphone capture will not work at all.  I've tried adjusting volume settings in gnome-volume-control, but to no avail.  I do notice that the alsamixer command line utility does not show a volume bar for the mic section -- not sure if that is abnormal or not.
[03:53] <noige> cycom: I would recommend doing that and then doing a netinstall
[03:53] <noige> cycom: appears this is an existing bug
[03:53] <nozorro> teimu: np
[03:53] <jordan> Hybernate and suspend don't work on my macbook pro.
[03:53] <noige> cycom: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/silo/+bug/40119
[03:53] <krazykit> ubotu: tell me about gaim
[03:54] <cracka12> anyone know if ubuntu server can be installed remotely through ssh?
[03:54] <Rookie-> !gaim
[03:54] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:54] <cycom> noige: it's up to date.  We can't put DHCP on that part of the net to do netboot because of some other issues.
[03:54] <Rookie-> !amsn
[03:54] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[03:54] <pushpop> ould anyone tell me how to mount a directory on 1 ubuntu machine to another remote computer in the same network?
[03:54] <pinky> I have an unknown device (0x4311) "PCI Express Port 1"
[03:54] <Rookie-> samba - use smb
[03:54] <krazykit> Rookie-: i know how to use ubotu, i just didn't want it to spam the channel ;-)
[03:54] <pinky> Is that possibly my Wifi card?
[03:54] <noige> cycom: see my post about the bug, it is a sug in Silo apparently
[03:54] <Rookie-> ahh
[03:54] <pinky> And if so how do I find make/model?
[03:54] <noige> cycom: Solaris 10! I am telling you... totally awesome
[03:54] <noige> cycom: lol
[03:55] <krazykit> but anyway, anyone know the gaim beta repo off the top of their heads?
[03:55] <Rookie-> slackware 11 .... coming soon
[03:55] <cycom> noige: I see it.  Is there a way to install ubuntu from another liveCD that works?
[03:55] <psilverelf> just followed the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29 to istall xgl/compiz and when I try to start it I get this error: gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[03:55] <psilverelf> compiz.real: No composite extension
[03:55] <psilverelf> could someone assist
[03:56] <noige> cycom: hmm, I would imagine so, a chroot install comes to mind, I would examine an alternate install cd (if one exists) I am using xubuntu as a test (I come from FreeBSD, Solaris, Trustix)
[03:56] <Flannel> psilverelf: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:56] <brian98> krazykit: it says disable DRI - I've looked around for dri found the wiki but am unsure what effects it will have, do I lose 3d?
[03:56] <jordan> psilverelf: I don't know how knowlageable the people here are but you might want to try the ubuntu-XGL channel, Quinstorm himself is there to help right now.
[03:56] <pushpop> Could anyone tell me how to mount a directory on 1 ubuntu machine to another remote computer in the same network?
[03:56] <noige> cycom: actually I vaguely remember something about an alternate install
[03:56] <JediWingKnight_> I tried installing "udftools_1.0.0b3-9_i386.deb" but it didn't allow me to see a UDF made DVD
[03:57] <riddlebox> what would cause my keyboard to have the caps light on when caps light is off, and when I press the '-' it displays as '_'?
[03:57] <nozorro> !alternate
[03:57] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[03:57] <SonicvanaJr> So anyone know that why when I disconnect my wireless usb stick my PS/2 keyboard stops working and any future usb device that isn't already in the system stops won't register
[03:57] <noige> pushpop: nfs
[03:57] <psilverelf> jordan thanks
[03:57] <Rookie-> pushpop - you can also use smb
[03:57] <jordan> psilverelf: No prob, just came back from there miself.
[03:57] <noige> pushpop: man fstab, exports, google samba
[03:58] <Rookie-> easiest way is to start with man smb
[03:58] <Crippy-Boy>  /part #ubuntu brb
[03:58] <moparfan90> whats that program to edit what starts on startup?
[03:59] <noige> pushpop: what OS is the other box
[03:59] <krazykit> brian98: yeah, you'll lose 3d.  i think the FOSS ati drivers give 3d for the 9600 and below
[04:00] <argnl> ahh. debian bug, pam_setcred
[04:00] <jordan> Has anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?
[04:00] <nozorro> moparfan90:  system startup in general or desktop startup?
[04:00] <moparfan90> system
[04:01] <noige> /etc/rc<runlevel>.d
[04:01] <brian98> krazykit: would it be worth compiling the ati drivers from ati and trying them to see if it improves?
[04:01] <nozorro> moparfan90: rcconf -- use with care though
[04:01] <Butta> what gui are you guys using xubuntu kubuntu ubuntu
[04:01] <Rookie-> k
[04:01] <moparfan90> ok
[04:01] <sethk> Butta, I use kde, and I use fluxbox when I want less overhead
[04:02] <krazykit> brian98: maybe.  it might be easier to use the ati drivers in seveas' repository.
[04:02] <bruenig> Bugsbang, gnome, or I suppose in your terms ubuntu
[04:02] <sethk> Butta, but there are a variety of excellent desktops.
[04:02] <stormchas3r> I installed ubuntu-calendar, how do i start it?
[04:02] <sethk> Butta, depends on your needs, your hardware, and just your taste in interfaces.
[04:02] <snerfu> Does dapper come with madwifi on the CD by chance?
[04:02] <Butta> have you heard that there coming out with fluxbuntu
[04:02] <bruenig> stormchas3r, try typing ubuntu-calender in the terminal
[04:02] <stormchas3r> ty
[04:02] <jordan> Butta: Ubuntu
[04:02] <pixelmonkey> exit
[04:02] <nozorro> moparfan90: some basic services can be controlled from System > Admin > Services
[04:03] <Butta> i'm just wondering what the masses are running
[04:03] <jordan> Butta: There have been rumers of Fluxubuntu being officially supported in edgy.
[04:03] <Butta> i love light weight windows mgr
[04:03] <Rookie-> wm ...
[04:03] <moparfan90> whats something i dont need? i dont have any type of web/email server running
[04:03] <bruenig> Butta, this is an ubuntu room, it is probably a bit biased. go to #kubuntu #xubuntu and it will be different
[04:03] <noige> I am using xu
[04:04] <Butta> did not know there where does rooms
[04:04] <stormchas3r> bruenig, that didnt work,  i installed thru synaptic thou
[04:04] <noige> I am not sure about ubuntu yet
[04:04] <bruenig> stormchas3r, it is probably in /usr/bin, so do this ls /usr/bin | grep calender
[04:04] <Butta> it's all the same clock works in the background i thought it did not matter what windiws mgr your running sorry
[04:04] <jordan> "The Application "gnome-power-manager" has quit unexpectedly.
[04:04] <jordan> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now."
[04:04] <brian98> krazykit: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/ don't see the ati driver there?
[04:04] <nozorro> moparfan90: the startup scripts are very interdependent. you need to know quite a log about your setup to edit this without breaking anything. as i said, use with care
[04:05] <stormchas3r> kk
[04:05] <krazykit> brian98: because you're looking in the freenx part.
[04:05] <nozorro> moparfan90: erm quite a *lot
[04:05] <Mangix> !ntfs
[04:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:05] <sethk> moparfan90, that's a very broad question.  Put the output of      ps auxww     on the paste site and we'll tell you what is running
[04:05] <brian98> cause I'm a ploner
[04:05] <brian98> k
[04:05] <bruenig> stormchas3r, what did you get for the output?
[04:05] <matt_> is there something that resets /etc/resolv.conf? I modify it, but when i reboot it changes back
[04:05] <stormchas3r> bruenig, calendar
[04:05] <krazykit> brian98: and if i don't respond right away, it's cuz i'm writing a paper ;-)
[04:05] <bruenig> ok type calender in the terminal
[04:06] <brian98> no worries my man
[04:06] <brian98> all help mucho appreciated
[04:06] <stormchas3r> bruenig, no such file or dir
[04:06] <moparfan90> anyone know if its possible to get counter strike source to run under wine?
[04:07] <moparfan90> i have steam installed and working
[04:07] <jordan> Has anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?
[04:07] <stormchas3r> moparfan90, cedega will
[04:07] <moparfan90> i know cedega will.. but can i with wine?
[04:07] <stormchas3r> wont be as good
[04:07] <moparfan90> will it work at all?
[04:07] <bruenig> stormchas3r, type calendar, in the terminal sorry I misspelled it
[04:08] <stormchas3r> idk
[04:08] <moparfan90> because it uses directX.. idk if wine supports that
[04:08] <stormchas3r> bruenig, nix@knix-laptop:~$ ls /usr/bin | grep calendar
[04:08] <stormchas3r> calendar
[04:08] <stormchas3r> knix@knix-laptop:~$ calendar
[04:08] <stormchas3r> calendar: /usr/bin/cpp: No such file or directory
[04:08] <moparfan90> cs 1.6 works fine. but that uses openGL
[04:08] <moparfan90> i guess ill just try it and see what happenes
[04:08] <stormchas3r> glhf
[04:09] <crimsun> stormchas3r: apt-get install build-essential
[04:09] <stormchas3r> kk
[04:09] <bruenig> stormchas3r, do /usr/bin/calendar
[04:09] <jordan> moparfan90: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731
[04:09] <jrsims> how do I install GTK themes?
[04:10] <nozorro> jrsims: you drag them to the theme config app's window
[04:10] <gnomefreak> jrsims: system>prefferences>themes
[04:10] <gusto5> system pref.....yeah :)
[04:10] <noige> does anyone here use ubuntu in a production environment?
[04:10] <BeepAU> hey everyone, how can i setup a ftp?
[04:10] <noige> like a data center
[04:10] <knix> stormchas3r: ?
[04:11] <jrsims> I have downloaded themes from Gnome-Look. Do I drag and drop the archive file, or unzip the archs and install all the files contained within?
[04:11] <stormchas3r> knix?
[04:11] <bruenig> jrsims, drag and drop although some of them aren't formatted properly
[04:11] <bruenig> the archive file
[04:11] <BlueEagle> jrsims: system->settings->theme
[04:11] <BlueEagle> jrsims: browse to the archive and click install
[04:11] <nozorro> jrsims: gnome-look may be theme *engines*, those are installed differently. try art.gnome.org
[04:11] <knix> 19:08 < stormchas3r> knix@knix-laptop:~$ calendar
[04:11] <knix> 19:08 < stormchas3r> calendar: /usr/bin/cpp: No such file or directory
[04:11] <stormchas3r> ya
[04:11] <stormchas3r> knixtech
[04:11] <BlueEagle> nozorro: oh? My bad then.
[04:12] <stormchas3r> knix, knixtech = kaufman linux technology,  weird thou
[04:12] <knix> heh
[04:12] <nozorro> BlueEagle: what i wanted to say ... many newbs try to install engines on the desktop and fail
[04:13] <BlueEagle> nozorro: i see.
[04:13] <robotgeek> hi, i'm running ubuntu server edition, and the IP method is setup as static in /etc/network/interfaces. however, for reasons unknown, dhclient acquires a dynamic ip after period of time. any suggestions?
[04:13] <BlueEagle> robotgeek: don't have dhclient running.
[04:13] <BlueEagle> robotgeek: ...but that really shouldn't matter.
[04:13] <nozorro> BlueEagle: art.gnome.org is somewhat cleaner in that it has themes not engines, that's why i recommend this site
[04:13] <BlueEagle> robotgeek: put your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin
[04:14] <BlueEagle> nozorro: Yes, I saw that one now.
[04:14] <jordan> Has anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?
[04:14] <robotgeek> BlueEagle: but i am not running it, at any period of time. it runs right after ntpdate or so.
[04:14] <BlueEagle> robotgeek: Did you check your crons?
[04:14] <[jb] > how to place the trash on the work area?
[04:14] <BlueEagle> anyways I'm off to bed.
[04:14] <BlueEagle> good night.
[04:15] <stormchas3r> is synaptic better to use than smart?
[04:16] <robotgeek> BlueEagle: i checked my cron, did not find anything untoward
[04:16] <Mangix> people
[04:16] <babo> OK, i've opened ekiga and registered with diamondcard.us. How do I make PC to phone calls with ekiga ?
[04:16] <holzmodem> hi, how can i reset the bootsplash, i have a Kubuntu startsplash and an Ubuntu shutdown splash, that a little funny
[04:16] <LOL> how do i change a folders icon?
[04:17] <babo> Do I need to input some special numbers or something ?
[04:17] <Mangix> can anyone help me with my NTFS issues?
[04:17] <robotgeek> BlueEagle: http://pastebin.ca/163931 (if you are there)
[04:18] <NickGarvey> Mangix: what is your question?
[04:18] <nozorro> LOL: right-click on it > Properties, and select the icon button under Basic. that's only for a single folder though
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> anyone here using eSata with Ubuntu?
[04:19] <jordan> Is there a good IRC channel for mactel linux ( preferably Ubuntu / Debian specific )
[04:19] <LOL> ty nozorro
[04:19] <LOL> nozorro where is the default folder containing most icons?
[04:19] <nozorro> LOL: /usr/share/icons
[04:19] <LOL> thanks
[04:20] <krazykit> jordan: probably this one.
[04:20] <holzmodem> how can i reset the bootsplash?
[04:20] <mike> any good eye candy for non nvidia or ati users?
[04:20] <jordan> krazykit: Not doing well so far :)
[04:21] <jordan> Has anybody gotten suspend and / or hybernate to work on the 17'' macbook pro? Anyone know if it is possible, and if so how?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> mike, you using Intel chip?
[04:21] <sethk> jordan, I don't think Apple has released the information that is required to make that work.
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> mike, if so ... AIGLX works well...
[04:22] <krazykit> jordan: aaaah.  suspend and hibernate.  good luck with that one.  it's a pain enough to do it on known hardware :-/
[04:22] <jordan> sethk: That makes sense for sleep but hybernate almost works ( no keybord input when resuming )
[04:23] <babo> what's the ekiga test line ?
[04:24] <Mangix> !vlc
[04:24] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:24] <Mangix> !codecs
[04:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <sethk> jordan, almost doesn't really help very much.  :)
[04:25] <[jb] > how to place the trash can on the work area?
[04:25] <specialbuddy> how do I get visuals for amarok
[04:25] <specialbuddy> ?
[04:25] <sethk> jordan, I have to fix a bug for one of my clients; I'll be back when I'm done.
[04:25] <micah41> hi all
[04:26] <PathagenX> heeyo
[04:26] <Mangix> !universal
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about universal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <Mangix> ...
[04:27] <babo> hmmm ... so skype users can hear me talk, but ekiga users can't. Can anyone think of an explanation for ?
[04:27] <yoshiznit123> quick question: how can I reload a .Xresources file without restarting X?
[04:28] <nozorro> [jb] : Apps > Sys Tools > Configuration Editor. Set set trash_icon_visible under /apps/nautilus/desktop
[04:28] <robotgeek> yoshiznit123: xrdb -merge .xresources
[04:28] <yoshiznit123> robotgeek, thanks
[04:28] <Flannel> !tell Mangix about universe
[04:28] <babo> also, I can hear sound from skype and ekiga, but pandora.com the music streaming service won't work now for some reason ...
[04:29] <babo> Help !
[04:29] <jordan> sethk: when I resume from hybernation I get the the screensaver and log in screen like I should but no keyboard or mouse input ( everything seems fine other than that but without input I can't really do much of anything ) I don't even get the caps / num lock lights.
[04:29] <mepp> offtopic, what command do I use for connecting to another servers?
[04:29] <nozorro> mepp: try to be more specific pls
[04:30] <mepp> I want to connect to another server like freenode
[04:31] <Nalf> When I try to access my windows partition it says I don't have the neccessary privledges.. how do I go about getting them?
[04:31] <robotgeek> mepp: on irssi, you would use /connect irc.foo.net
[04:32] <KyoLptp`> Is there a channel specifically for aiglx help?
[04:32] <mepp> thnks
[04:32] <nozorro> Nalf: try adding the option 'auto' for that partition in /etc/fstab. it should work after the next reboot
[04:32] <richjoyce> Hi I just installed an xserver on a ubuntu server installation, what is the command i run to start the server now...?
[04:33] <jordan> KyoLptp`: Not that I know of but the Ubuntu-XGL channel provides support for AIGLX also I believe.
[04:33] <KyoLptp`> thanks
[04:33] <Nalf> I don't even see that file system in fstab.
[04:33] <jordan> KyoLptp`: that is not to say there isn't one...
[04:34] <nozorro> Nalf: which kind of file system is it? ntfs? vfat?
[04:34] <Nalf> NTFS
[04:34] <edju> cd drive will not read cd-r's.  might some kind soul check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22890.  what's HFS superblock doing there?  isn't that OSX?
[04:35] <nozorro> Nalf: which partition number is it?
[04:35] <Nalf> 1
[04:35] <nozorro> Nalf on first drive?
[04:35] <Nalf> yues.
[04:35] <blahrus> anyone running aixgl and compiz on edgy?
[04:35] <nozorro> Nalf: mounted right now?
[04:35] <Nalf> On only drive.
[04:35] <richjoyce> anyone?
[04:35] <KyoLptp`> bleh, that other channel is dead
[04:36] <richjoyce> how do i start an x server?
[04:36] <KyoLptp`> is anyone here somewhat well-versed in aiglx?
[04:36] <Nalf> yeah.. /dev/hda1
[04:36] <KyoLptp`> whoops, nvm
[04:36] <Nalf> ../tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[04:36] <Nalf> access path
[04:36] <jordan> KyoLptp`: freenode seems to be having some problems currently.
[04:37] <iveney> really?
[04:37] <KyoLptp`> currently? more like always, lol
[04:37] <nozorro> Nalf: pls do this in a terminal: 'grep ntfs /etc/fstab' and gimme the output
[04:38] <Nalf> None.
[04:39] <nozorro> Nalf: now wait pls., googling
[04:39] <Nalf> Nod.
[04:39] <shonen> can I add debian apt sources to the ubuntu sources.list and have it not screw things up?
[04:39] <Nalf> It says 'root' is the owner.
[04:39] <Nalf> how do I login as root?:P
[04:39] <caseyomah> Nalf "su root"
[04:39] <jordan> Nalf: You usually don't, you probably want to use sudo
[04:39] <shonen> nalf: either preface everything with sudo or if you want su installed, first sudo passwd root
[04:40] <jordan> Nalf: Try `sudo nautilus`
[04:40] <nozorro> jordan: we want to make sure he can access the part. permanently :-)
[04:41] <jordan> nozorro: I'll let you handle him, I'm not used to giving support anyway :)
[04:41] <Nalf> thanks.
[04:41] <Nalf> It's working.
[04:41] <Nalf> :)
[04:42] <caseyomah> I have a friend who knows virtually nill about linux who rewrote his MBR with a different bootloader (not lilo or grub) and needs to reinstall grub from LiveCD. He's also having trouble mounting his HDs.
[04:42] <shonen> does anyone here know if i can add debian apt sources into the repositories in ubuntu? what I am asking is are .deb's made with debian only in mind 100% compatable with ubuntu?
[04:43] <nozorro> Nalf: to make this work permanently, your /etc/fstab needs a line like this:
[04:44] <nozorro> Nalf: '/dev/hda1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0'
[04:44] <nozorro> Nalf: or maybe even: '/dev/hda1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,auto,umask=0222 0    0'
[04:45] <nozorro> Nalf: save yourself big trouble and make a backup of /etc/fstab first before changing this file
[04:45] <nozorro> Nalf: to edit this file, do this in a terminal: 'gksu gedit /etc/fstab'
[04:45] <Nalf> Will do.
[04:46] <Nalf> Thank you very much for your help.
[04:46] <shonen> this is the line I use, Nalf: /dev/sda1       /mnt/win        ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:46] <shonen> and it works
[04:46] <Nalf> snicker.
[04:46] <Nalf> I've never had this much trouble before.
[04:46] <caseyomah> nozorro I want to mount a vfat partition at boot with R/W access to All.
[04:47] <nozorro> Nalf, caseyomah, please read here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[04:47] <nozorro> it has all the basic info
[04:47] <caseyomah> Thanks nozorro.
[04:48] <shonen> caseyomah: write a line similar to my last one, but with vfat instead of ntfs. in options, you may have to put "rw", but i doubt it
[04:48] <TooCooL> !google gooch
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google gooch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <bouncing> Am I missing something or is f-stop not packaged for ubuntu?
[04:48] <TooCooL> !gooch
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gooch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <nozorro> Nalf: yeah, don't forget ntfs is read-only atm, no writing
[04:48] <caseyomah> shonen, That would be "-o rw" if I need it.
[04:48] <TooCooL> !google car
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google car - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <TooCooL> how do u use the google command
[04:49] <iiiears> please don't tease the bot. - he gets surly - lol
[04:49] <TooCooL> hahahahahaha
[04:49] <jared777> I am trying to get sound in youTube I told Firefox to use AOSS and it worked once but no refuses to play even though i get the system sounds playing with ALSA
[04:49] <TooCooL> !enter
[04:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:49] <bouncing> fstop? anyone?
[04:50] <TooCooL> cant u google in here?
[04:50] <Jamminpotato> what is the easiest way to start an ssh daemon?
[04:51] <caseyomah> TooCooL, http://www.google.com/
[04:51] <brian98> jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install sshd
[04:51] <brian98> I think :S
[04:51] <jared777> Any ideas how i can get sound for such places as youtube and google video?
[04:51] <Jamminpotato> brian98, i tried that
[04:51] <TooCooL> caseyomah, i mean the command inside of irc
[04:51] <iiiears> TooCool - Sure can, much better to ask more than one question of ubotu as a private message
[04:51] <der0b> is there a way to reset the gnome theme data from the command line?  I installed some icon themes and changed some other theme settings and now gnome will only partially load
[04:51] <Jamminpotato> sshd doesnt exist
[04:51] <dragonriot> apt-get update && apt-get install sshd
[04:51] <brian98> jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[04:52] <jordan> When I resume from hybernation I get the the screensaver and log in screen like I should but no keyboard or mouse input ( everything seems fine other than that but without input I can't really do much of anything ) I can't even get the caps / num lock lights on the keybord to turn on
[04:52] <nozorro> openssh-server
[04:52] <TooCooL> iiiears,  im stoned so u lost me
[04:52] <TooCooL> lol
[04:52] <brian98> nope
[04:52] <brian98> one sec.
[04:52] <brian98> I done it last night
[04:52] <axisys> is the gnome 2.16 update on its way for ubuntu?
[04:52] <michael117> I'm trying to install Compiz and aiglx but am somewhat stuck because of conflicting guides that say to install compiz-gnome-manager and others that say to use compiz-vanilla or compiz-quinn. Should I use Compiz-vanilla, compiz-quinn, or compiz-gnome?
[04:52] <brian98> jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:52] <nozorro> openssh-server
[04:53] <bballr> anyone know when Edgy Eft Knot's final version will be released?
[04:53] <brian98> thats the winner
[04:53] <brian98> thanks noz
[04:53] <axisys> michael117: try #ubuntu-xgl chnl
[04:53] <iiiears> TooCool - If you ask the a lot of questions it clogs the channelk. - he can answer questions as a private message if you have more than one.
[04:53] <brian98> jamminpotato: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:53] <dragonriot> how do you uninstall something that installed with a shell script? (sh program.run style)  The script references a generic ./setup but no specific package that i can see in the text of the script...
[04:53] <axisys> michael117: compiz lates is not gnome dependent anymore
[04:53] <dragonriot> axisys 2.16 is done I thought...
[04:53] <brian98> my memory ain't what it used to be
[04:53] <brian98> brain full of crap, needs a cleanout
[04:53] <axisys> michael117: i am using aiglx .. i got all the help from them #ubuntu-xgl
[04:53] <nozorro> brian98: happens :-)
[04:54] <nozorro> brian98: to me as well :-)
[04:54] <axisys> ubotu: tell michael117 about xgl
[04:54] <TooCooL> iiiears,  what is command for google doh?
[04:54] <axisys> dragonriot: is it?
[04:54] <brian98> nozorro: I'll see my shrink
[04:54] <brian98> see what he says
[04:54] <brian98> lol
[04:54] <michael117> axisys: Thank you very much!
[04:54] <axisys> i know gnome 2.16 released but not sure if we are running it
[04:55] <axisys> thought there should be an update
[04:55] <axisys> michael117: very welcome
[04:55] <nozorro> ok i'm off to bed. sleep improves memory, brian98
[04:55] <brian98> :)
[04:55] <brian98> so do carrots
[04:55] <nozorro> yeah
[04:55] <brian98> no thats eyesight
[04:55] <brian98> see
[04:55] <nozorro> true
[04:55] <brian98> memory again
[04:55] <brian98> feck it anyway
[04:55] <axisys> dragonriot: i am running 2.14.3
[04:55] <nozorro> :-)
[04:56] <brian98> night man :-)
[04:56] <nozorro> bye
[04:56] <shriphani> guys i got problems with my wireles
[04:56] <axisys> dragonriot: what u get system -> about gnome
[04:56] <brian98> who don't
[04:56] <brian98> shripani: what's the problem
[04:56] <brian98> what card
[04:56] <brian98> what version of os you running
[04:56] <shriphani> broadcom
[04:56] <shriphani> 6.06
[04:56] <shriphani> txpower = off
[04:56] <brian98> is it recognised in network manager?
[04:56] <shriphani> yes
[04:57] <shriphani> but it says radio off
[04:57] <brian98> but you can't connect to access point?
[04:57] <jordan> shriphani: Do you know about fwcutter?
[04:57] <shriphani> no
[04:57] <shriphani> jordan, no i dont
[04:57] <shriphani> i tried sudo iwconfig eth1 tower suto
[04:57] <shriphani> txpower ^
[04:57] <shriphani> and it says set failed on device
[04:57] <jordan> shriphani: Just a second and I will find a link to a tutorial.
[04:58] <shriphani> is this a bug ?
[04:58] <brian98> shripani: you using native drivers or ndiswrapper?
[04:58] <moparfan90> hello. i am trying to get counter strike source to work though wine. i have steam installed and when i click launch the window comes up and says loading.. then 10 sec later it just goes away and thats it
[04:58] <shriphani> umm how do i find out ?
[04:58] <moparfan90> any ideas
[04:59] <shriphani> i just have those drivers that ubuntu installed
[04:59] <brian98> ok
[05:00] <mike> any eye candy for non nvidia/ati cards
[05:00] <jordan> shriphani: I can't find the tutorial right now, but try downloading this http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/firmware.zip ...
[05:00] <brian98> I have yet to get a card running properly without using ndiswrapper but I think thats because most of the cards I have used are based on the texas i chipsets
[05:00] <moparfan90> anyone? know?
[05:01] <moparfan90>  i am trying to get counter strike source to work though wine. i have steam installed and when i click launch the window comes up and says loading.. then 10 sec later it just goes away and thats it
[05:01] <brian98> !wine
[05:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:01] <mike> any good eye candy for users with weaker video cards?
[05:01] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to find out what programs were included with my installation of wine?   i.e. notpad.exe
[05:01] <shriphani> jordan, i have downloaded it
[05:01] <moparfan90> i know what wine is
[05:01] <brian98> mike: paris hilton wallpaper :)
[05:01] <mike> lol
[05:01] <jordan> shriphani: Then unzip that file to your desktop and run `sudo mv ~/Desktop/firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware`
[05:01] <TooCooL> !gooch
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gooch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <mike> any real answers?
[05:01] <SpudDogg> !wine
[05:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:02] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to find out what programs were included with my installation of wine?   i.e. notpad.exe
[05:02] <TooCooL> !spine
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <TooCooL> booo ubotu is no good
[05:02] <mike> !me
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <shriphani> hmm and how do i know which fw i need in that list ?
[05:02] <mike> !edgy
[05:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:02] <caseyomah> !myself
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <caseyomah> lol
[05:02] <PathagenX> stop spamming w/ the bot please.
[05:02] <TooCooL> !and irene
[05:02] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 124 kB
[05:02] <brian98> !schedule > brian98
[05:02] <jordan> shriphani: I think you need all of them but I am not sure.
[05:03] <iiiears> moparf,   gaming in linux isn't always easy these sites can help http://frankscorner.org/  http://www.winehq.com/  http://www.transgaming.com/    #wine   #cedega
[05:03] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to find out what programs were included with my installation of wine?   i.e. notpad.exe
[05:03] <jordan> shriphani: Having extras can't hurt
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> SpudDogg,  none are included.  :) look in .wine see wghats in thgere
[05:03] <brian98> spuddogg: Have a look at the readmes...
[05:04] <caseyomah> SpudDogg, winemine and filemanager.
[05:04] <TooCooL> if u want cs source working properly jus download xp from torrents and duel boot lmfao
[05:04] <caseyomah> SpudDogg, winemanager
[05:04] <elfshadow14> Hey would anyone know were the edgy beta is?I can't find it now I forgot LOL.
[05:05] <babo> so the ekiga test line doesn't work then ... /
[05:05] <brian98> elfshadow14 #ubuntu+1
[05:05] <TooCooL> edgy aint as good as dapper is it?
[05:05] <caseyomah> I thought edgy was older then dapper.
[05:05] <jordan> shriphani: Are you having any problems?
[05:05] <mike> caseyomah:  nope edgy is in development
[05:05] <elfshadow14> Is my question OT?
[05:05] <brian98> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:05] <TooCooL> oh when is edgy realesed?
[05:06] <TooCooL> k
[05:06] <brian98> telepatic
[05:06] <elfshadow14> oct 26
[05:06] <brian98> jeez
[05:06] <mike> TooCooL: october
[05:06] <TooCooL> yup lol
[05:06] <brian98> it is late
[05:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> elfshadow14, are you wishing to upgrade your machine to edgy?
[05:06] <levander> How come since after I've upgraded to dapper, some package names will show up in the output of 'apt-cache search' but when I run 'dpkg -l' on them, the output says 'No packages found matching <name>'?
[05:06] <TooCooL> o ok mike...does edgy look alot better then ubuntu?
[05:06] <axisys> !schedule > axisys
[05:06] <KyoLptp`> if I attempt to install dapper drake onto an NTFS partition, will it be able to successfully format the partition to ext2/3/whatever it needs?
[05:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> elfshadow14, if so, replace "dapper" with "edgy" in your sources.list file
[05:06] <brian98> levander: try sudo apt-get update
[05:06] <elfshadow14> No just monkey around with it.I'm sticking with dapper
[05:06] <mike> TooCooL: i dont notice much of a difference in looks, but thats becasue i cant use aiglx i dotn have a good video card poopy
[05:06] <levander> brian98: i did
[05:07] <jester45> i used easyubuntu to install sometings but the videos are jumpy and my cpu is only useing about 80%
[05:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> KyoLptp`, when it installs, yes
[05:07] <TooCooL> mike will edgy come with compiz and all the goodies like suse does?
[05:07] <KyoLptp`> ok
[05:07] <elfshadow14> I was hoping there was a live CD
[05:07] <jester45> can anyone tell me if its my computer or xfmedia
[05:07] <squee> is there a way to lock a package so it isn't upgraded through apt-get ?
[05:07] <mike> TooCooL: it comes with aiglx witch is kinda like xgl
[05:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, i have compiz isntalled in dapper
[05:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, you can get the repos and there's plenty of tutorials
[05:08] <mike> TooCooL: and i believe compiz is in the repos but not 100% sure on that
[05:08] <TooCooL> o i got compiz myself but it was hassle
[05:08] <brian98> levander: I don't now. maybe someone else can help ya!
[05:08] <KyoLptp`> also, if I installed Dapper Drake beta 2 to my PC, would it be able to update to the latest dapper drake stable?
[05:08] <TooCooL> cant u get xgl for ubuntu?
[05:08] <mike> TooCooL: ye ai bet
[05:08] <jordan> squee: Yes but I don't remember how, sorry.
[05:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> KyoLptp`, if you have an internet connection
[05:08] <mike> TooCooL:  i think edgy runs faster with apllications and such
[05:08] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, yes, i have compiz+xgl installed
[05:09] <squee> jordan: well, it's a start, at least i know it's possible.  I locked it through synaptic but though cli it still shows up
[05:09] <KyoLptp`> ok
[05:09] <elfshadow14> If there is one can someone link me to the ISO for edgy.
[05:09] <squee> im afraid if i run automatix it will upgrade it
[05:09] <KyoLptp`> sorry for the stupid questions, I just wanted to verify before diving in
[05:09] <iiiears> The installer is a link on the live desktop. - gparted will let you resize your ntfs partition when  you choose the non default option
[05:09] <TooCooL> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22819 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22822 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22820  check out my SS
[05:09] <NickGarvey> elfshadow14: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/edgy/knot-2/
[05:09] <NickGarvey> elfshadow14: oh wait no
[05:10] <TooCooL> 3 nice SS up there
[05:10] <NickGarvey> elfshadow14: thats.. edubuntu
[05:10] <NickGarvey> elfshadow14: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-2/
[05:10] <NickGarvey> elfshadow14: that one :)
[05:10] <jordan> squee: depending on what 'it' is you may be able to downgrade it if automatix upgrades it.
[05:10] <elfshadow14> LOL      thank you
[05:10] <TooCooL> dont ya wish your desktop looked hot like mine dont ya dump dump dump die dump
[05:10] <axisys> !gnome > axisys
[05:10] <TooCooL> :P
[05:11] <port> niice shot
[05:11] <axisys> what is the latest gnome people running on dapper?
[05:11] <Telroth_Plushie|> squee, you can 'hold' packages
[05:11] <axisys> mine says 2.14.3
[05:11] <bruenig> squee, automatix doesn't upgrade packages, it does an update and then does its stuff. Even if you are eligible for an upgrade because of the apt-get update, it won't install it.
[05:11] <Telroth_Plushie|> and apt-get won't update/remove them
[05:11] <TooCooL> mike u see my SS
[05:11] <squee> jordan: its my ati drivers.  i put in some xgl repositories and if they upgrade it kills my ati drivers and goes back to mesa.
[05:12] <TooCooL> u r missing out by not haveing compiz mate
[05:12] <shonen> Telroth_Plushie: are you using them when you try to update/remove them?
[05:12] <squee> bruenig: thanks, i figured it would throw in an upgrade somewhere in there.
[05:12] <TooCooL> i got automatix installed fine but when i opened it,it could never connect it always timedout
[05:12] <elfshadow14> Wow I'm already 10% done with edgy :)
[05:12] <squee> toocool: never had a problem with that
[05:13] <levander> When you use sudo, are you not using the PATH environment variable of the user who's invoking sudo?
[05:13] <bruenig> squee, no it explicitly says in fact to not open the update-manager because often times the apt-get update does elicit upgrade results which will cause that orange upgrade thing to pop up. It won't install them though.
[05:13] <TooCooL> squee,  yeah said something about the key but i downloaded it fine with the guide i used which needed a key to download it from
[05:13] <squee> levander: i think it uses root.  for instance if you do a sudo nautilus and go to your home it goes to root
[05:13] <TooCooL> is automatix any good or does it mess things up
[05:13] <bruenig> gksudo nautilus*
[05:13] <bruenig> !automatix
[05:13] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:14] <shriphani_> jordan, ?
[05:14] <Flannel> TooCooL: it messes things up
[05:14] <jordan> shriphani_: yes
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> TooCooL,  i say avoide it.
[05:14] <TooCooL> Flannel,  k good i wont use it so...i used easyubuntu today which is a nice little proggy
[05:14] <shriphani_> so do i go with the mv to /lib/firmware ?
[05:15] <jordan> shriphani_: Yes.
[05:15] <squee> toocool: if you have recently set up the machine, then it probably wont mess up anything, but if you have done much custom... dont touch it
[05:15] <port> hey tooCool
[05:15] <avrFreak> Greets
[05:15] <TooCooL> someone once told me by adding some line into nautilus in configuration editor you could set transperency on all windows anyone know how to do this?
[05:15] <jinho> hi I just tried putting up the fglrx drivers (im using radeon 9200) but now ubuntu wont show up- how can I access the command line before ubuntu loads- thanks!
[05:16] <TooCooL> port yes
[05:16] <TooCooL> squee,  i wont bother with it
[05:16] <port> how can i go about getting that toolbar you have on those ss
[05:16] <avrFreak> I installed ubuntu 5.04 on a Compaq notebook which had no network connections. now I have a netowrk connection, but it is not seeing it.  What do I need to do, please?
[05:16] <TooCooL> took me to long to get everything in compiz to work right
[05:16] <levander> squee: and anybody else who will look, I pasted my problem with getting the command to run under sudo here: http://www.pastebin.ca/163960
[05:16] <TooCooL> port download a program called kiba-dock
[05:16] <port> is it in the repos ?
[05:16] <TooCooL> not sure how i got it but it aint to hard jus look on ubuntu forums for kiba
[05:17] <port> iight
[05:17] <TooCooL> not sure i think so doh
[05:17] <TooCooL> its a sweet program
[05:17] <port> cool
[05:17] <TooCooL> like icons go all over the place when u click on them
[05:17] <port> im gona llook for it now
[05:17] <TooCooL> and then randomly fall back into place
[05:17] <jinho> is there any way to get access to the command line before the Ubuntu start up page loads (mainly so that I can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[05:17] <jinho> ?
[05:17] <TooCooL> !kiba
[05:17] <jordan> shriphani_: Once you have copied the files run `sudo modprobe bcm43xx` and you should be able to connect.
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <bruenig> levander, appears to be in the path, don't know why it wouldn't work
[05:18] <TooCooL> anyone got a fancy desktop and some screen shots?
[05:18] <krazykit> jinho: you can use the recovery console from grub.  when "grub stage 1.5" is on the screen, hit escape and choose recovery-console
[05:18] <babo> My microphone doesn't seem to be working ... ?
[05:18] <TooCooL> come on i know theres more then 1 person in here into skinning
[05:18] <babo> I can't use the sound recorder ...
[05:18] <krazykit> TooCooL: yes, but it's not gnome.
[05:18] <bruenig> skinning cats
[05:18] <squee> levander: the easiest way to do this, would be to just make a link in /usr/bin and try it that way.  someone correct me if i'm wrong
[05:18] <jinho> kraxykit- problem is grub is only there for like 1 second before it skips
[05:18] <TooCooL> krazykit,  thats fine show SS pls
[05:18] <krazykit> jinho: yeah, then stick by the computer
[05:19] <jinho> krazykit- haha
[05:19] <TooCooL> i dont like kde but i still like seeing how ppl skin other stuff
[05:19] <Lil_Shank> when i try to run a program it gives me an error that it cant mmap /dev/dsp, anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:19] <avrFreak> network setup assistance, anyone?
[05:19] <jinho> krazykit- just in case- is there no other way?
[05:19] <krazykit> jinho: i suppose there are, but i can't think of them.
[05:19] <krazykit> TooCooL: feh, kde.  i use e17.
[05:20] <krazykit> TooCooL: http://x001.uploaderx.net/x/fulldesk.png  <old screenshot.
[05:20] <TooCooL> ok SS when u get a chance..whatever e17 is
[05:20] <TooCooL> k
[05:20] <krazykit> TooCooL: old and of my crummy gentoo setup.  it's sexier now.
[05:20] <TooCooL> hmm looks wierd
[05:20] <bruenig> TooCooL, here is my current desktop http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/Screenshot2.png
[05:20] <avrFreak> I need netowrk setup asssitnace, please>?
[05:21] <TooCooL> someone told me enviroment i think its called is really good for skinning
[05:21] <bruenig> pretty simple
[05:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, e17 is a desktop environment like gnome or kde
[05:21] <TooCooL> bruenig, kk checkin
[05:21] <squee> avrfreak: details please?
[05:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, it has awesome graphics libraries for rendering, and is lightning fast even on old and slow computers
[05:21] <krazykit> TooCooL: enlightenment dr17.  it's still in pre-alpha, though, heh.
[05:21] <jordan> TooCooL:  you mean enlightenment?
[05:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, however, it's very different from kde or gnome on the interface level
[05:21] <TooCooL> o thats it yeah
[05:22] <TooCooL> yeah this guy told me it was harder then gnome to skin but better
[05:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, the biggest difference is that it has no desktop icons
[05:22] <TooCooL> i hate desktop icons
[05:22] <krazykit> Telroth_Plushie|: pff, desktop icons are for girly men.
[05:22] <krazykit> ;-)
[05:22] <Lil_Shank> when i try to run a program it gives me an error that it cant mmap /dev/dsp, anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, and the start menu is attached to the left click on the mouse
[05:22] <TooCooL> i like the kiba dock i have but other then that
[05:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> krazykit, i'm not saying they are or arent
[05:22] <TooCooL> ohh i dont like that
[05:22] <krazykit> Telroth_Plushie|: fluxbox is that way too ;-)
[05:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, e17 has engage, which is like mac os x's dock
[05:22] <avrFreak> hank: it is telling you it isn;lt finding a DSP device on your system
[05:23] <krazykit> Telroth_Plushie|: engage is currently totally broken in cvs :-D
[05:23] <TooCooL> bruenig,  very basic but what is the program u use to monitor and are u on gnome
[05:23] <TooCooL> Telroth_Plushie|,  so it is more powerful?
[05:23] <avrFreak> Anyone: network setup assistance, please?
[05:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, look up the elive project
[05:23] <bruenig> gnome, gdesklets
[05:23] <brikof> wenas
[05:23] <TooCooL> Telroth_Plushie|,  k
[05:23] <brikof> alguien habla espaol?
[05:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, it's e16 and e17 installed on a live cd format
[05:23] <__mikem> !es
[05:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:23] <TooCooL> bruenig,  ahh ok
[05:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, which is great for trying it out
[05:23] <TooCooL> hmm i think i will try it
[05:24] <krazykit> TooCooL: there's a new repo for e17, too, so you can install it without building it yourself. check out the news bits of get-e.org
[05:24] <TooCooL> is the live cd any good to look@
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Telroth_Plushie|: Elive is the worst piece of work I have seen
[05:24] <shriphani_> jordan, i still cant connect
[05:24] <bruenig> TooCooL, if you like orange and brown, it is great otherwise it makes you want to vomit
[05:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, i'll agree, all it's good for is demoing e16/17
[05:24] <avrFreak> Can anyone in here provide network setup assistance for unbuntu x86 5.04?
[05:24] <TooCooL> lmfao
[05:24] <jordan> shriphani_: How are you trying to connect?
[05:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, it's why i moved from it to kubuntu
[05:24] <brian98> toocool: your an irish lad
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Telroth_Plushie|: E17 is worth trying
[05:24] <shriphani_> using network manager
[05:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, i've tried it
[05:25] <brian98> !offtopic :)
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <brian98> !offtopic
[05:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, i installed elive to harddrive
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Telroth_Plushie|: SO have I
[05:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, however i hate the interface e16 and e17 has
[05:25] <TooCooL> brian98, yes
[05:25] <jordan> shriphani_: Have you entered in the SSID? ( network name )?
[05:25] <brian98> same here,, thought I was the only one!
[05:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, i make major use of my desktop, i download files to it so they're there and visible
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Telroth_Plushie|: Everyone has their opinion...  Mine is that Elive belongs in the circular file
[05:25] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, so e16/e17 doesn't really work for me.
[05:26] <shriphani_> jordan, its there
[05:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> Jack_Sparrow, i know. elive sucks, i'm not refuting that. i did install it before i knew that though.
[05:26] <KyoLptp`> quick! what filesystem does linux use?
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Telroth_Plushie|: None of this is ontopic in Ubuntu..   Better to take it to their room or offtopic
[05:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> KyoLptp`, whatever you install it as
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> KyoLptp`: several ext2,3 reiserfs
[05:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> KyoLptp`, i recomment ext3 or reiserfs
[05:26] <brian98> what part of the country?
[05:26] <KyoLptp`> thank you!
[05:26] <jordan> shriphani_: I don't know much what to do beyond that, sorry. But just to be sure, what is the output of `sudo modprobe bcm43xx`?
[05:27] <shriphani_> jordan, nothing
[05:27] <jordan> shriphani_: That means at least that worked...
[05:27] <shriphani_> yeh
[05:27] <brian98> is /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) normal?
[05:27] <TooCooL>  elive project looks really nice...very sharp looking
[05:27] <jordan> shriphani_: what about ifup?
[05:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, use it for demoing purposes only
[05:28] <brian98> toocool: what part of the country?
[05:28] <TooCooL> whats demoing?
[05:28] <shriphani_> could you please tell me the entire command please jordan ?
[05:28] <TooCooL> !demoing
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demoing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, if you like elive, download and install e17 in ubuntu
[05:28] <KyoLptp`> When installing linux, should I install it to a primary or logical partition?
[05:28] <jordan> shriphani_: It depends on what your wireless interface is called...
[05:28] <shriphani_> KyoLptp`, yer wish
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> not if you want to dual boot
[05:28] <shriphani_> jordan, eth1
[05:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> TooCooL, demoing, as "to demo" or to just use to show you what it's like
[05:28] <jordan> Ok...
[05:29] <TooCooL> Telroth_Plushie|, o ok
[05:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> bbl
[05:29] <jordan> shriphani_: first `sudo ifdown eth0`
[05:29] <KyoLptp`> my wish?
[05:29] <avrFreak> SHIT
[05:29] <KyoLptp`> logical then?
[05:29] <Lil_Shank> when i try to run a program it gives me an error that it cant mmap /dev/dsp, anyone know how i can fix this?
[05:29] <jordan> shriphani_: I mean eth1 sorry
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> TooCooL: Dont judge E17 by the Elive release... Two different things...
[05:29] <TooCooL> Telroth_Plushie|,  if i did install it is it hard to set it up to a nice fancy desktop?
[05:29] <shriphani_> ok
[05:30] <demio> hello
[05:30] <demio> does anyone here know a good xmms2 gui for ubuntu?
[05:30] <TooCooL> Jack_Sparrow,  o ok
[05:30] <jordan> shriphani_: then `sudo ifup eth1` and past the output
[05:30] <shriphani_> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[05:30] <shriphani_> umm iwconfig says txpower = off
[05:30] <shriphani_> radio off
[05:30] <shriphani_> mode managed
[05:31] <jordan> shriphani_: I really don't know very much, mabie somebody more knowlageable can help you out more.
[05:31] <shriphani_> ok thanks for your help :)
[05:32] <jordan> shriphani_: All I can suggest is that you install network-manager-gnome as it automatically detects networks and other nice things like that.
[05:32] <shriphani_> ok
[05:33] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i get the latest gnome? 2.15 i think...
[05:33] <malice> I just got a new usb PCMCIA card for my laptop, but when I put it in and connect my usb device Ubuntu does not see anything. Anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:33] <TooCooL> anyone else got screen shots of there desktop...come on i love SS
[05:34] <KyoLptp`> what's a good size for a swap partition? also, what filesystem should it be?
[05:34] <TooCooL> is there any channels that would have ppl like posting SS etc
[05:34] <TooCooL> skinning for ubuntu basically?
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> TooCooL: Check out these cool Icon sets   http://kearone.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=9
[05:34] <TooCooL> jack,  k
[05:35] <TooCooL> Jack_Sparrow, can they be used in gnome?
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> yes there is a nix set
[05:35] <TooCooL> sweet
[05:36] <jordan> TooCooL: http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/SS.png
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I have a screenshot but it isnt posted
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> KyoLptp`,  a swap partition has its own swap filesystem (i gyess ya can say)
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> and size depends on your memory. I always use 512mb minimal.
[05:36] <TooCooL> jordan,  checkin
[05:37] <TooCooL> jordan, nice
[05:37] <KyoLptp`> ok
[05:37] <KyoLptp`> what about the size?
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> double your ram is good
[05:37] <KyoLptp`> thanks
[05:38] <TooCooL> Jack_Sparrow, i use the glass icons from gnome.org or whatever the site is
[05:38] <kitche> KyoLptp`: if you have 1 gig of ram swap is useless
[05:38] <TooCooL> they look nice with my black theme
[05:38] <TooCooL> you can actually see them as glass
[05:38] <Jamminpotato> what is an easy way to move files across a lan between two linux boxes?
[05:38] <TooCooL> jammin easy noob way through amsn
[05:38] <TooCooL> :P
[05:38] <KyoLptp`> oh, alright
[05:39] <Jamminpotato> TooCooL, amsn?
[05:39] <Shalon> hi guys, u know how to get firefox handle ed2k links?
[05:39] <hondje> If you have a gig of ram and something goes bad, you'll miss that swap to dump on :)
[05:39] <TooCooL> Jamminpotato,  yeah its like msn for linux..jus have 2 accounts 1 on each pc and jus send files that way
[05:39] <TooCooL> like you would in windows to a friend
[05:39] <jordan> When I resume from hybernation I get the the screensaver and log in screen like I should but no keyboard or mouse input ( everything seems fine other than that but without input I can't really do much of anything ) I can't even get the caps / num lock lights on the keybord to turn on.
[05:39] <kitche> hondje: well with 1 gig of ram you won't even touch swap even if something does go bad
[05:40] <KyoLptp`> jordan, that reminds me of a problem I've been having (and still do)
[05:40] <Jamminpotato> TooCooL, i dont have internet access with one of them kinda and i want to do it iwth nfs or something
[05:40] <KyoLptp`> recently, my laptop has been unable to awake from hibernation
[05:40] <TooCooL> Jamminpotato, ahh then i cant help you im afraid
[05:40] <KyoLptp`> so I end up having to do a full reboot, and lose my browser cache, etc
[05:40] <iiiears> "linux swappiness" makes for some interesting reading. - comepletly tunable
[05:40] <TooCooL> why has 1 not got internet?
[05:41] <TooCooL> no router?
[05:41] <caseyomah> What is the grub command to setup into /dev/hdb2?
[05:41] <Shalon> hi guys, u know how to get firefox handle ed2k links?
[05:41] <iiiears> !grub
[05:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:41] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i get the latest gnome? 2.15 i think...
[05:41] <jordan> KyoLptp`:  I am thinking somehow I could have a script run on resume that re configures the keyboard or something?
[05:41] <Shalon> !ed2k
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ed2k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <kitche> roostishaw: lastest gnome is 2.16
[05:42] <TooCooL> when did 2.16 come out?
[05:42] <KyoLptp`> I honestly don't know
[05:42] <roostishaw> kitche, and do you know how i might get that?
[05:42] <Grok_> 2.16 came out today
[05:42] <TooCooL> how do i find out what version im runing?
[05:42] <kitche> TooCooL: eariler in the week
[05:42] <KyoLptp`> I'd like to find out why I can't resume from hibernation, period, myself
[05:42] <TooCooL> KyoLptp`,  dont use hibernate
[05:42] <elfshadow14> Hey would anyone know were I can get a gnome ISO burner?
[05:43] <kitche> TooCooL: your running 2.14 most likely since there was never 2.15
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> KyoLptp`: Could you try  booting with both acpi=off and noapci options
[05:43] <wthww> hey-oh!
[05:43] <babo> My microphone doesn't work ... I can't use the sound recorder. Can anyone help ?
[05:43] <TooCooL> kitche,  is it worth updateing to 2.16..what is new?
[05:43] <babo> I'm using the alsa daemon
[05:43] <detectiveinspekt> Hi I made a new prog in the gnome menu, used " sh /usr/local/myprog" runs fine in a terminal but semi-loads when i go through the menu
[05:43] <KyoLptp`> alright Jack_Sparrow
[05:43] <kitche> TooCooL: uses dbus and it allows people to run aiglx
[05:44] <KyoLptp`> I'll try that after I get 6.06 running on my desktop
[05:44] <TooCooL> kitche, is there any chance@all it will mess up my compiz and themes etc?>
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> KyoLptp`: ODds are it wont work but there is one motherboard that MUST use that
[05:44] <TechSalvager> can I listen to mp3s in ubuntu?
[05:44] <kitche> TooCooL: probably mess with your themes but I don't use XGL at all
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:44] <TooCooL> TechSalvager,  yes u need to get some libs
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Gotta love that bot..
[05:44] <KyoLptp`> I have an intel centrino laptop
[05:45] <TooCooL> kitche,  ahh ok i,ll jus wait for edgy and start it all over then lol
[05:45] <KyoLptp`> the motherboard's probably intel; is that the one?
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[05:45] <elfshadow14> Hey does anyone know a gnome ISO burner?
[05:45] <babo> Is it true that the sound recorder is garbage ?
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> K3B
[05:45] <poningru> elfshadow14: gnome baker
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> elfshadow14: It works great in gnome
[05:45] <elfshadow14> ok
[05:45] <TooCooL> TooCooL:test
[05:45] <poningru> elfshadow14: yeah actually I would use k3b too
[05:46] <poningru> TooCooL: test
[05:46] <TooCooL> lol
[05:46] <TooCooL> type this poningru
[05:46] <TooCooL> TooCooL,test
[05:46] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i get the latest gnome? 2.16 i think...
[05:46] <nich0s> Is there anyway to play doze games on linux?
[05:46] <nich0s> if so, what do I need?
[05:46] <poningru> roostishaw: switch to edgy
[05:46] <poningru> its too big for a backport
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nich0s: read up on WIne and cedega
[05:47] <poningru> !wine
[05:47] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:47] <barata> hi, how do you guys play avi file? I cant get mplayer yet
[05:47] <nich0s> poningru: Thanks
[05:47] <roostishaw> poningru, is edgy as stable now as dapper?
[05:47] <TooCooL> no
[05:47] <TooCooL> i doubt it
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> roostishaw: No
[05:47] <TooCooL> its still beta
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> NExt month is the release date
[05:48] <roostishaw> Jack_Sparrow, how much "less stable" is it?
[05:48] <kitche> roostishaw: it will work but then again somethings might act strange
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Not too long to wait
[05:48] <TooCooL> Jack_Sparrow, is it better or possible to update to edgy or do u have to reinstall it all?
[05:48] <bhrobinson> is there anyone that can help me with a quick mount issue?
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Avoid Edgy as your everyday desktop
[05:49] <TooCooL> Jack_Sparrow,  why?
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bhrobinson: What format is the drive or partition..
[05:49] <jordan> Sorry I accidentily disconnected, what did I miss Hybernation wise?
[05:49] <Mangix> anyone know how to make Microsoft Windows boot up first via GRUB?
[05:49] <torpedo|dog> I'm having problems with GDM and Xnest not playing together.
[05:49] <TooCooL> is it not jus same as ubuntu but better?>
[05:49] <sethk> bhrobinson, ask a specific question and you'll find out.
[05:49] <sethk> Mangix, you mean make it the default, or first in the menu?
[05:49] <torpedo|dog> Mangix: do you have /boot/grub/menu.lst open?
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Mangix: Edit grub.. move windows to top of the list
[05:49] <KyoLptp`> good question, Mangix
[05:49] <bhrobinson> jack, it is a UFS drive on a Fedora Core 5 system
[05:49] <Mangix> sethk, make it default
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bhrobinson: no idea
[05:49] <bhrobinson> I need to mount it to my workstation
[05:50] <kitche> Mangix make windows default
[05:50] <bhrobinson> and I think I have nfs running
[05:50] <Mangix> how?
[05:50] <sethk> Mangix, in /boot/grub/menu.lst, there is a line like this:      default 0
[05:50] <bhrobinson> is there a way to check?
[05:50] <sethk> Mangix, that makes the first "title" line the default boot.  You can use 1, 2, etc.
[05:50] <Mangix> sethk, do i just open it up with a text editor?
[05:50] <sethk> Mangix, right.  If your current default is 0, there may not be a line
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Mangix: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst    Remember to make a backup copy before starting
[05:50] <sethk> Mangix, if that's so, just add the line
[05:50] <shonen> i just deleted the application launcher in gnome by accident. how do I get it back?
[05:51] <sethk> shonen, right click on the panel, find the option to add
[05:51] <jordan> Do intel macs use an acpi compatable setup?
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Gotta go... see everyone tomorrow
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight
[05:51] <shonen> ok, in add dialouge
[05:51] <TooCooL> Jack_Sparrow, i have read about making back copys of files why or how does this work...if u screw something up then how would u fix it
[05:51] <bhrobinson> anyone have an idea on the mount?
[05:51] <cvt|expert> my digital camera can't be accessed; saying it does not exist but it does. how do i fix this?
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys, wife just came in... I gotta go.. please understand
[05:51] <TooCooL> backup*
[05:51] <sethk> cvt|expert, how are you referring to it?
[05:52] <TooCooL> k cu
[05:52] <shonen> sethk: i'm in the add screen, but I can't find where add the whole panel again
[05:52] <kitche> TooCooL: you would untar the file or undd it
[05:52] <detectiveinspekt> what was that? could only see half a line
[05:52] <cvt|expert> sethk,  i plug it up through usb cable
[05:52] <cvt|expert> sethk,  then it says camera on my desktop
[05:52] <sethk> shonen, I thought you just wanted to add a launcher to the panel
[05:52] <cvt|expert> sethk,  i couldn't find it any other way
[05:53] <Lil_Shank> when i try to locate /dev/dsp i dont get any output, do i need to create it or something?
[05:53] <sethk> cvt|expert, type mount (no arguments) and you'll see what directory it is mounted on
[05:53] <TooCooL> kitche:so basically i would copy the file to say my desktop...screw up the origonal and then jus copy the copy from desktop to whereever file is located?
[05:53] <sethk> cvt|expert, it will be something like /media/usbdisk
[05:53] <shonen> sethk: no, I accidentially removed everything to the left of the firefox button
[05:53] <shonen> SOMEHOW.
[05:53] <kitche> TooCooL: yeah I mostly burnt he backup to a disk
[05:53] <sethk> shonen, I can tell you how to return gnome to the state it was in the first time you ran it
[05:54] <TooCooL> o ok
[05:54] <sethk> shonen, but of course you'll lose all your changes
[05:54] <shonen> sethk: that's ok, i can put it back
[05:54] <TooCooL> can someone in here type TooCooL,
[05:54] <Lil_Shank> TooCooL
[05:54] <sethk> shonen, ok, then you can rename your subdirectory .gnome2 in your home directory
[05:54] <sethk> shonen, might be .gnome-2.  note the first character is a dot
[05:54] <Lil_Shank> when i try to locate /dev/dsp i dont get any output, do i need to create it or something?
[05:55] <TooCooL> k so by useing the , after name instead of : doesnt chage it highlighting
[05:55] <sethk> shonen, do ls -ld .g*   it will show you directories and files starting with .g
[05:55] <shonen> sethk: does gnome need to be closed when I do this?
[05:55] <Mangix> ok
[05:55] <TooCooL> i see some ppl put: after name
[05:55] <sethk> shonen, if you rename that, it will create a new one and use the default settings.
[05:55] <Mangix> i opened the menu.lst file
[05:55] <TooCooL> no need doh
[05:55] <Mangix> so what do i edit?
[05:55] <sethk> shonen, yes, otherwise you will be removing files it is using, at least potentially
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Mangix: I can hang for a couple more minutes
[05:55] <sethk> Mangix, if there is a line starting with default, then change the number
[05:56] <sethk> Mangix, if not, then add a default line
[05:56] <Mangix> sethk, it is set to 0
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Mangix: First.. save a copyu as a different name
[05:56] <sethk> Mangix, ok, change it to 1 to boot the second choice by default, 2 to boot the third, etc.
[05:56] <TooCooL> k bed time for me peeps...
[05:56] <Mangix> sethk, i see
[05:56] <eaglescout> hi all, I need some help.  I got the Desktop CD version of ubuntu via download, but it won't let me burn it on to a CD.  Is there a way i can run it from my computer
[05:56] <sethk> Mangix, that's assuming you want to keep the current order of choices on the menu.
[05:57] <Mangix> yep
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> 'it wont let you' - what IT wont?
[05:57] <Mangix> well, doesn't really matter to me
[05:57] <eaglescout> my CD burner program
[05:57] <nich0s> exit
[05:57] <sethk> Mangix, ok, then just change the number to whichever one is windows
[05:57] <cvt|expert> sethk,  it wasn't there. i saw proc\bus\usb but it wasn't there or in media
[05:57] <nich0s> wow... my bad
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> eaglescout,  'burn at once' is a nice free iso burner program for windows
[05:58] <sethk> cvt|expert, no backslashes in *nix
[05:58] <sethk> cvt|expert, why would you look for it in /proc/bus/usb?
[05:58] <cvt|expert> rit
[05:58] <Lil_Shank> when i try to locate /dev/dsp i dont get any output, do i need to create it or something?
[05:58] <babo> How come audactity allows me save as MP3 ? ... I thought that was a proprietary format ?
[05:58] <TreeStump> hi
[05:58] <sethk> cvt|expert, I told you to run the mount command with no arguments
[05:58] <cvt|expert> sethk,  b/c it said usb
[05:58] <babo> How many systems will play .ogg sound ?
[05:58] <cvt|expert> sethk,  i did
[05:58] <sethk> cvt|expert, you certainly didn't find anything with /proc in the output of mount
[05:59] <jordan> babo: Operating systems?
[05:59] <detectiveinspekt> when i make a matlab icon in the gnome menu it half loads matlab then quits, I use " sh /usr/local/matlab"
[05:59] <sethk> babo, it is, so what?
[05:59] <TreeStump> does anyone know... last time i had ubuntu i managed to get this neat thing on my taskbar that showed my CPU speed, im back on kubuntu now and im wondering how i get it back?(its a fresh install)
[06:00] <JacX> I got a problem...
[06:00] <sethk> TreeStump, the speed, not the load?
[06:00] <TreeStump> Speed in mhz it was
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> right click on the panel and add an applet
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> TreeStump: right click on panel and add to panel... see if that was what you were using
[06:00] <babo> sethk: well, then shouldn't someone have to pay money to record to that format ?
[06:00] <cvt|expert> sethk,  what exactly am i supposed to be looking to find?
[06:01] <sethk> babo, no
[06:01] <JacX> I just installed ubuntu on my computer, the family computer acctually, the rest of them still need windows... when I reboot the computer the boot OS selectipon thing doesnt work with my keyboard or something
[06:01] <JacX> can't change the selection
[06:01] <sethk> cvt|expert, the place where your camera is mounted as a usb drive
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> jack,  ya got a usb keyboard or ps2?
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> PS2
[06:01] <sethk> JacX, if you have a usb keyboard, turn on "legacy keyboard support" in the BIOS setup
[06:01] <babo> jordan: I want to record some sounds and put them on my site. Don't know whether I should use .ogg or .mp3. Windows media player won't play .ogg right ?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Odd..
[06:01] <cvt|expert> sethk,  proc/bus/usb was the only place
[06:01] <JacX> oh...
[06:02] <JacX> that woudl help
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> I got a system that grub wont work with USB> i got to plug in a ps2 cable.
[06:02] <sethk> cvt|expert, you said it appeared on your desktop.  If it did, it has to be mounted.
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Willis: Sorry.. wrong Jack
[06:02] <sethk> Dr_Willis, usually turning on legacy support will fix that
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> and Legacy USB support - when enabled.. prevents the system from even booting. Lol.
[06:02] <TreeStump> no i couldnt find it
[06:02] <sethk> Dr_Willis, really.  that's a good feature.  :)
[06:02] <cvt|expert> sethk,  when i click the link on my desktop it says the file / folder doesn't not exist
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> sethk,  Not on this one. :P
[06:02] <JacX> so delete while I'm bootuing, ussual bios changing
[06:02] <cvt|expert> sethk,  it even shows an icon of a camera
[06:02] <JacX> I'll try that
[06:02] <JacX> thanks...
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Willis: I have same problem, even a card reader with no card will hang the system
[06:03] <Lane> I have been trying to get my wireless card to work(I have two, and either one is fine) an onboard broadcom, or a usb rt73
[06:03] <sethk> cvt|expert, something you are saying doesn't make sense, but I have no idea which part of it you are misreporting.  It can't say that / does not exist
[06:03] <Lane> any takers?
[06:03] <jordan> babo: As much as I hate to support a proprietary format, you should probably use mp3, although ogg can be played on any operating system with the correct apps / codecs installed.
[06:03] <TreeStump> Jack_Sparrow: No that wasnt it
[06:03] <babo> Audacity tells me that I need to get libmp3lame.so in order to record something as MP3. libmp3lame.so isn't in the repos though ...
[06:03] <babo> what's the story there ?
[06:04] <sethk> babo, files are not in the repository, packages are
[06:04] <sethk> babo, that package is in liblame-dev and liblame0
[06:05] <sethk> babo, that file is in liblame-dev and liblame0, sorry
[06:05] <babo> sethk; ahhh ... thanks
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !lame
[06:05] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[06:05] <babo> also I have a general question ... how come I'm able to install audacity as 'user' ... shouldn't I need to be root for that ?
[06:05] <Mangix> what was the command to edit the menu.lst file again?
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Mangix: gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst    Remember to make a backup copy before starting
[06:06] <Mangix> ty
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> sudo EDITORYOULIKE /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:06] <jordan> ubotu: Ironic that LAME became a full fledged encoder
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ironic that LAME became a full fledged encoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <holycow> hewo
[06:07] <jordan> Wow, I can't believe I replied to a bot :)
[06:07] <tomasz27> hi all
[06:07] <cvt|expert> sethk,  that's what it says. i'll host a pic...
[06:07] <tomasz27> anybody was able to get Dreamweaver 8 running in Ubuntu
[06:07] <jordan> Do intel macs use an acpi compatable setup?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Willis: Keep an eye on mangix... He may have another question on editing his grub.. I would really like to see im post it to the Pastebin before rebooting
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> heh - well its almost my bedtime. i gotta do a 12 hr shift tomorrow.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> if couldent even rember how to edit the file... thats a bad sign. :)
[06:09] <teimu> could someone do me a big favor and pastebin their grub.conf (or whatever its called) for their dapper install, standard and recovery, and the memtest?
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> That is why I thought it wise to check it before the reboot
[06:09] <holycow> teimu, ill post my grub conf ... gimme url i'm too lazy to dig that up
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[06:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:10] <teimu> holycow, http://pastebin.com/
[06:10] <jordan> I guess I'll never be able to hybernate, mabie I should go to sleep ( literally ) and try again tomorrow.
[06:11] <teimu> o yea, is there a way to edit the grub conf from grub itself?
[06:11] <sethk> teimu, no, but if you mean at the boot prompt, you can change the information for that boot
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> teimu,  grub has a very WELL documented web site/homepage with good manuals. I dont think thats doable.. but if it IS - its mentioned there.
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> You can also edit it from a liveCD
[06:12] <holycow> teimu, gimme another site
[06:12] <holycow> that one sucks
[06:12] <teimu> sethk, when you say "that boot", you mean it wont be permanent?
[06:12] <sethk> teimu, right
[06:13] <teimu> holycow, did you try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , or pastebin.com
[06:13] <sethk> teimu, you can change the kernel command line, the initrd line, etc.,
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> E and changes at the grub prompt are only for that boot
[06:13] <sethk> teimu, but it doesn't change the file, it only effects the boot you are about to do
[06:13] <teimu> sethk, yea.
[06:13] <holycow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22898   <-- menu.list
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodnight all, good luck...
[06:13] <cvt|expert> sethk,  http://i3.tinypic.com/2afy8bb.png
[06:14] <holycow> teimu, what else do you need?
[06:14] <teimu> holycow, that'll do it. thanks!
[06:14] <holycow> np
[06:15] <sethk> cvt|expert, the little thing on the browser is turning around and around, but, so far, no picture
[06:15] <sethk> cvt|expert, either that's the worlds slowest web server, or something is wrong.  still hasn't come up
[06:16] <eaglescout> okay, my CD finished burning. *hopes it boots okay*
[06:17] <teimu> hmm. actually, holycow, do you by chance know the grub commands that actually take place when you load up ubuntu?
[06:17] <teimu> i need the stuff i can type
[06:17] <holycow> teimu, never had to learn them
[06:17] <cvt|expert> sethk,  http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2afy8bb
[06:17] <holycow> what are you trying to solve? usually there are better ways to solve things than what it sounds lik eyour doing :)
[06:17] <sethk> cvt|expert, sorry, that finally turned into an error message
[06:17] <teimu> some error: not a recognized filesystem (or something, dont remember)
[06:18] <luckyone> so why can't you burn cd's on xubuntu?
[06:18] <teimu> its on a newly installed dapper
[06:18] <sethk> cvt|expert, you said it was on the desktop
[06:18] <luckyone> can you explain more?
[06:18] <sethk> cvt|expert, that's a dialog window
[06:18] <holycow> teimu, if you don't know what the error is ... how do you know how to solve it?
[06:18] <sethk> cvt|expert, most likely that's caused by attempting to mount without admin privileges
[06:18] <holycow> i can definately tell you its not going to be solved by doing things with grub
[06:18] <cvt|expert> sethk,  do you see that icon of a camera on the destop?
[06:19] <teimu> alright, alright. point taken. ill be back with the error.
[06:19] <cvt|expert> desktop*
[06:19] <sethk> cvt|expert, sure, but that has nothing to do with the dialog window
[06:19] <cvt|expert> sethk,  that's what comes up when clicking that icon
[06:19] <dragonriot> I just burned a clean warez cd for a client in a fresh install of edubuntu and all I did was install graveman with apt-get... there's no reason you shouldn't be able to burn in xubuntu...
[06:20] <sethk> cvt|expert, I don't know how you expect to get help when you don't accurately describe what is happening.  There is a huge difference between a dialog message that comes up because you click, and something on the desktop
[06:20] <sethk> cvt|expert, right click on the camera icon, go to preferences or details or whatever, and see where it thinks the camera is mounted
[06:20] <Arafangion> dragonriot: We don't deal with warez here.
[06:21] <holycow> besides, whats the point?
[06:21] <holycow> we get everything free and legal anyway
[06:21] <KyoLptp`> I have good news!
[06:21] <holycow> why warez?
[06:21] <Arafangion> holycow: Indeed.
[06:21] <KyoLptp`> grub has overwritten the vista beta 2 bootloader! :D
[06:21] <holycow> KyoLptp`, that is good news indeed
[06:21] <holycow> better news would be if it wiped the whole frickin thing out :)
[06:22] <Gevaudan> Hello all...I'm having trouble getting my external usb drive mounted at boot time...if i do a mount -a as root then things mount fine...here is my fstab line, any ideas?: /dev/sdb1       /media/MAXTOR   vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000        0
[06:22] <KyoLptp`> oh, it did
[06:22] <KyoLptp`> I still have XP Pro sitting in another partition
[06:22] <KyoLptp`> for games
[06:22] <mfonda> i'm following this guide ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse ) to attempt to access ntfs from ubuntu - I can mount and read/write to it just fine, but it doesn't seem to mount automatically (i did add a line to /etc/fstab). Is there something else I need to do to get it to do so?
[06:22] <holycow> KyoLptp`, i kid :)
[06:22] <dragonriot> Arafangion: It was an example... and it was an Ubuntu ISO... not warez in the sense that you took it... I am used to saying warez for any ISO I burn just because... sorry
[06:23] <MTecknology> OK, I did all updates. I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I double checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf and 1280x768, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 are in there. I restarted. When I run System>Preferences>Screen Resolution, it only displays the smallest three resolution, how do I get 1280x768?
[06:23] <Arafangion> dragonriot: warez explicitly refers to illegal downloads/copying/etc
[06:23] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Explicitly.
[06:23] <chris1932> hi, i just copied a bunch of files that have -rw------ permissions for the files and drwx------ permissions for the directories to a public_html directory. what's the easiest way to change the permissions so that files are world readable and dirs are world executable, i.e. like a normal website? (this entire directory is pretty deeply nested.)
[06:23] <cvt|expert> sethk,  i made the distinction as clear as i could to you.  it says / (media)
[06:23] <PX-dormant> Nice nap. I am back. Who has the cookies?
[06:23] <dragonriot> Arafangion: I should have spelled it wares then... as in softwares...
[06:24] <poningru> chris1932: while in the folder
[06:24] <FunnyLookinHat> PathagenX, cookies?!  where?!
[06:24] <Arafangion> How do I tell cp to NOT make hardlinks?
[06:24] <Arafangion> arafangion@arafangion-laptop:~$ cp -r .* * /mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/
[06:24] <Arafangion> cp: will not create hard link `/mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/.aptitude' to directory `/mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/./.aptitude'
[06:24] <cvt|expert> Yahovah,  irc.atheistnetwork.net
[06:25] <mfonda> "/dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       0" is in /etc/fstab, but the drive does not seem to mount automatically. any ideas?
[06:25] <PathagenX> Arafangion, you can't go wrong with cp -a
[06:25] <poningru> chris1932: chmod * 722
[06:25] <cvt|expert> Yahovah,  or irc.infidelguy.com
[06:25] <Gevaudan> christ1932: fyi, the numbers mean 1 for execute, 2 stands for write only 2 stands for read only.
[06:26] <Arafangion> PathagenX: I'm not concerned with preserving links, the files aren't links at all. Additionally, I want to ensure that everything is copied as me.
[06:26] <Gevaudan> christ1923: err, 4 for read only
[06:26] <PathagenX> that is what -a is for
[06:27] <sethk> Arafangion, what PathagenX said works.  an alternative is to use tar to copy, but cp -a is easier.    cp -av   lists each file as it copies
[06:27] <caseyomah> We just setup grub at /dev/hdc2 and System Commander says it isn't valid and just goes black screen when you select Linux. Help?!?
[06:27] <poningru> chris1932: err bad syntax
[06:27] <Arafangion> PathagenX: No, -a is "archive", and it dereferences links, and preserves file permissions, such as if I had a file owned by Foo, with permissions rwxrw-rw-, it would ensure that the same is on the destination.
[06:28] <Arafangion> PathagenX: But I just want the dang file copied using my default umask, and owned by me.
[06:28] <Arafangion> *files, not file
[06:28] <eaglescout> Hi all, I have a problem.  I burned a CD of the desktop CD, but I can't boot it from the CD! Help! x_x
[06:28] <holycow> congrats to the gnome devs for gnome release ... lookin good
[06:28] <Arafangion> eaglescout: Did you burn it as a mere file on a CD, or did you burn the iso _as_ a cd?
[06:29] <FunnyLookinHat> holycow, have you run into any major bugs with the edgy beta?  I'm going to test it out when i get my laptop back
[06:29] <eaglescout> I extracted it and burned it...
[06:29] <dragonriot> eaglescout: what software did you use to burn it?
[06:29] <eaglescout> burnatonce
[06:29] <holycow> FunnyLookinHat, well so far none of the cd installers worked, i had to just now install dapepr here then dist upgrade
[06:29] <holycow> will be my first time seeing edgy
[06:30] <FunnyLookinHat> holycow, ahhh ok.  very cool   : )
[06:30] <dragonriot> use Nero or Alcohol 120%, just double click the iso, select an application to open the file, pick nero, and click burn. done...  you have to open it as a compilation, you can't extract it first.
[06:30] <cvt|expert> Yahovah,  actually that one is on irc.efnet.net
[06:30] <holycow> FunnyLookinHat, not really, but can't tell if my cdburner is borked or the isos are borked
[06:30] <dragonriot> eaglescout: that last one was for you
[06:30] <cvt|expert> Yahovah,  sry i can't pm you. i'm trying to register to pm you
[06:31] <Arafangion> eaglescout: afaik, Nero is proprietary, alcohol is free.
[06:31] <dragonriot> alcohol is free? for what OS?
[06:32] <FunnyLookinHat> holycow, generally speaking, they won't release a knot release (beta version) if at the very least the installer isn't working
[06:32] <chris1932> hi poningru: it seems to me that 'chmod 722 *' would make all files world writable? also, how can i do this recursively, and make sure the directories are given different permissions from the files? (would i use some test like "if [ -f $foo]  ...")
[06:32] <eaglescout> *is lost* what did you mean by that, dragonriot?
[06:32] <chris1932> it seems like there should be an easier way
[06:32] <dragonriot> Arafangion: how old are you?  and alcohol is only free is you supply the marij.... nevermind...
[06:33] <FunnyLookinHat> dragonriot, #ubuntu-offtopic    ;)
[06:33] <Arafangion> dragonriot: 21, and it's port I like, Tawny port.
[06:33] <dragonriot> eaglescout: what OS are you running in right now?
[06:33] <eaglescout> can anybody help me with my CD problem?
[06:33] <cvt|expert> sethk,  it says the location of the camera is / (media) but there's no camera in that folder
[06:33] <eaglescout> Windows 2000 pro
[06:33] <dragonriot> FunnyLookinHat: just bringing some funny to the conversation, sorry. =)
[06:34] <dragonriot> ok... what CD burning software do you have installed?
[06:34] <FunnyLookinHat> dragonriot, oh i'm kidding  (was trying to be funny myself)   : )
[06:34] <dragonriot> =)
[06:34] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Though, I've enjoyed good wine since I was 18 :)
[06:34] <Arafangion> (Legal age in australia is 18, btw)
[06:34] <eaglescout> I have CD burner XP3 Pro and burnatonce
[06:34] <dragonriot> Arafangion: good... you can have the wine... I'll take cedega...
[06:34] <dragonriot> Arafangion: w00ps
[06:34] <dragonriot> lol
[06:35] <xororand> hi
[06:35] <xororand> how can i get fuse-2.5 on dapper?
[06:35] <dragonriot> ok back to eaglescout
[06:35] <Arafangion> dragonriot: It very nearly installs Office 2003, btw, I was impressed. (Installer bombs out, and WINWORD.EXE loads, then crashes)
[06:35] <eaglescout> xP thanks.  I need all the help I can get :P
[06:35] <Gevaudan82> Hey guys, I'm having a lot of trouble mounting an external usb drive...if i do mount -a things work fine though when booted up..my fstab line looks like this, am i missing something?: /dev/sdb1       /media/MAXTOR   vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000        0 0
[06:35] <sethk> cvt|expert, there is a /media.  I think this icon was probably already on the desktop when you connected the camera
[06:36] <sethk> Gevaudan82, kernel modules required to do that mount aren't loaded into the kernel when the bootup mount -a occurs
[06:36] <dragonriot> Arafangion: I haven't tried installing anything into it yet... since I'm dual booting, I just boot windows, configure settings for games/software that I like, then run them directly from NTFS in cedega.
[06:36] <wezzer> hi all
[06:36] <RawSewage_> I think someone is stealing my wireless bandwidth.  my modem is going crazy for no reason.  HOw do I check
[06:36] <dragonriot> anyway...
[06:36] <cvt|expert> sethk,  the camera icon only appears when i connect the camera
[06:36] <wezzer> I need help with grub, I want that it boots windows xp by default
[06:36] <sethk> Gevaudan82, you can rebuild the kernel with the support compiled in, rather than a module.  Or, you can just add a mount -a statement to the end of an initialization file
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> RawSewage_, are you running your internet connection through a wireless router?
[06:37] <sethk> cvt|expert, when you disconnect the camera, it goes away?
[06:37] <dragonriot> eaglescout, does burnatonce have iso burning capability?  like, can you start a new ISO or Image?
[06:37] <Gevaudan82> sethk: hmm...i did install the 686 smp kernel whereas before best i remember things were working fine with the 386 ubuntu kernel...is this a pretty simple fix?
[06:37] <cvt|expert> sethk,  yes
[06:37] <RawSewage_> FunnyLookinHat, yes
[06:37] <eaglescout> dragonriot: yes, it does
[06:37] <Arafangion> Dang, I can't use cp -a either:
[06:37] <Arafangion> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion/./repos/dst/.git/objects/90/d58da8d4256a642feff99f401dc3a566a39138': Permission denied
[06:37] <port> sudo
[06:37] <FunnyLookinHat> RawSewage_, Have you setup a WEP key on it?  If not, set one up.  If yes, change it to something else.  : )
[06:37] <sethk> Gevaudan82, yes, just changing an M to compiled in, in the kernel config.  Probably for usb storage or a related module
[06:37] <RawSewage_> bah
[06:38] <RawSewage_> FunnyLookinHat, ok ty
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> RawSewage_, a lot of routers and broadband modems will show tons of activity even if nothing is really going on....   : P
[06:38] <sethk> Gevaudan82, just adding the mount -a to an init file is hackish, but easy.
[06:38] <Arafangion> port: I've already set /mnt/qemu_imgs/arafangion to be owned by me.
[06:38] <Gevaudan82> sethk: i'm honestly looking for the easy way at this point although i might look into recompiling the kernel tomorrow...what initialization file are you talking about? rc.local?
[06:38] <RawSewage_> FunnyLookinHat, it never did before
[06:38] <Arafangion> port: And hundreds of other files have copied.
[06:38] <sethk> Gevaudan82, if there is an rc.local, sure, that will work
[06:38] <dragonriot> ok... eaglescout, navigate to the directory where you downloaded your iso... double click it or right click... Open... and pick burnatonce as the program to open it with.
[06:38] <Gevaudan82> sethk: thank you for your help
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> RawSewage_, strange.  You could call your provider and see if they are noticing an over usage from your connection.  They would know better than I would.
[06:39] <RawSewage_> FunnyLookinHat, but isnt there a console command to see
[06:39] <eaglescout> dragonriot: okay, done
[06:39] <Arafangion> port: Infact, both the source and distination is rwxr-xr-x and owned by me.
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> RawSewage_, nope.  your OS and broadband modem are completely different
[06:39] <RawSewage_> FunnyLookinHat, ok, ty
[06:39] <holycow> RawSewage_, you turn off the wireless and plug directly into it and check your bandwidth consumption
[06:39] <dragonriot> eaglescout: it should automagically open the ISO for burning a bootable ISO Image... if not, something else needs to be done that is beyond me, since I have never used burnatonce.
[06:39] <FunnyLookinHat> RawSewage_, there may be some pretty advanced bandwith monitoring tools you could try to hack together, but most solutions won't work in a home enviornemtn
[06:39] <dragonriot> eaglescout: if it DID open the compilation and it's ready, click burn and be done.
[06:40] <eaglescout> yep, it opened it.  I'll see if it works.
[06:40] <holycow> RawSewage_, if you have the right wireless device maybe you can install something like dd-wrt firmware and use tools available via that to monitor use
[06:40] <RawSewage_> ok
[06:40] <eaglescout> *kicks CDRs* I can't change my mistake x_x
[06:40] <dragonriot> when you are done booting Ubuntu, come back and tell us. =)
[06:40] <MTecknology> I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the only value is 1280x768, but when i try to change screen resolution, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22899
[06:40] <Arafangion> Interestingly, every single one of cp's issues seem to have a '/./' in the path, which _shouldn't_ make any difference.
[06:40] <eaglescout> I know I will xP
[06:40] <RawSewage_> I think I'll shut off my computer and see if its running
[06:41] <Gevaudan82> sethk: if i did want to add the support for boot mountable usb dribes, any idea where that would be in the kernel menu?
[06:41] <CromagDK> 06:40 < RawSewage_> I think I'll shut off my computer and see if its running
[06:41] <CromagDK> how againg ?
[06:41] <CromagDK> -g
[06:42] <CromagDK> nvm afk and mornings..
[06:43] <eaglescout> it's writing.  Let' hope it works. I've burned through 3 CDs becaue of mistakes. x_x
[06:43] <Arafangion> eaglescout: A rewritable CD is recommended.
[06:43] <eaglescout> yeah, we bought these CDs before we knew there was a difference -_-
[06:44] <eaglescout> oh well, i'm on the last one so now we HAVE to buy new ones. :)
[06:45] <dragonriot> Arafangion: you still use RWs?  CDs are cheap... buy a 100stack of Imations and never have a worry about if it's rewritable, they cost 5 cents each...
[06:45] <eaglescout> x_x these cost 50 cents each. x_x oh well.  It's still not bad to have a good OS for only $1.50 :P
[06:45] <Arafangion> dragonriot: 50 cents each, but the real question is, do you want to carry 100 CD's with you everywhere? :)
[06:46] <dragonriot> no, that's why I memorize IP addresses and have 2 file servers. =)
[06:46] <eaglescout> okay, it's ready to go.  I'll be back to let you know how it goes. :D
[06:46] <varsendaggr> hey is there a program that would take a film and break it into bitmaps?
[06:46] <holycow> i haven't burned anything in about 2 years
[06:46] <varsendaggr> a bit map per frame?
[06:46] <holycow> flash drives are so large now that its a dead technology effectively
[06:47] <Gevaudan82> varsendaggr: if there was (and there might be) you'd have to be running one hell of a computer
[06:47] <dragonriot> really... the only time I burn anything is if I need to give something (a lot of things) to a friend and I don't want to wait for my upload speed...
[06:47] <Arafangion> holycow: CD's are still useful for short-term storage.
[06:47] <Arafangion> holycow: Instead of deleting files, I archive them to CD's, which generally last for years.
[06:47] <Arafangion> holycow: I'm up to CD 85 now, or thereabouts.
[06:47] <holycow> to each his own ... but i disagree.  its a dead technology, i cannot see a single reason to use cds for anything at all
[06:48] <james_xxx> were there any updates today that may have broken x?
[06:48] <holycow> i don't archive anything to cd
[06:48] <holycow> i just buy hd's and archive to that
[06:48] <Arafangion> holycow: CD's are cheaper.
[06:48] <Gevaudan82> holycow: in my opinion cds/dvds/optical media last longer than hard drives
[06:48] <holycow> faster, cheaper, better, you can actually recover from dead drives but software raid is so easy why bothry
[06:48] <Arafangion> holycow: And ultimately more reliable.
[06:48] <holycow> Arafangion, actually its not
[06:48] <holycow> hd's are cheaper per gig
[06:48] <holycow> waaaaaay cheaper
[06:48] <casey__> agreed, my budget does not allow me to go "oh, better buy a hd"
[06:48] <Arafangion> holycow: Sure, per gig...
[06:49] <holycow> cd's also are not reliable either, the scratch if you look at them
[06:49] <holycow> also cd's have roughly 5 year life spans
[06:49] <Gevaudan82> anything with moving parts like hard drives are bound to fail
[06:49] <casey__> if you take care of them, they will not scratch.
[06:49] <holycow> after that they degrade VEEEERY  rapidly unless you get the archiving grade cds
[06:49] <holycow> so basically, its a dead technology
[06:49] <casey__> or.. put them in a binder.
[06:49] <Arafangion> I put them on a shelf, (admitably just separated by paper, but that's better than nothing)
[06:50] <holycow> Gevaudan82, hard drive failure with hd prices today is a non issue.  software raid and you are done.
[06:50] <Arafangion> holycow: imho, software raid is a joke.
[06:50] <holycow> Arafangion, not refuting that you find them usefull and indeed a valid tool :)
[06:50] <dragonriot> Arafangion: harddrives are cheaper... consider the fact that time-to-live for most software is only a few months, if you burned an ISO to a cd, it would be worthless after the next release... on a hard drive, you delete the old file, replace it with the new one, and you have made up the cost difference
[06:50] <Arafangion> holycow: If you go raid, you might as well go with true hardware raid.
[06:50] <Gevaudan82> i just an external 300gb drive for most of my backups but i burn things to dvds once every 6 months to a year or so
[06:50] <holycow> just offering another perspective.  however, cds are dead in the next 5 to 10 years
[06:51] <holycow> no one will be using them for much longer imho
[06:51] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Say, you delete the file, then go "Doh!", I didn't mena to delete THAT file!
[06:51] <Arafangion> dragonriot: You're still messed up.
[06:51] <Gevaudan82> holcow: what will the music industry publish on then?
[06:51] <holycow> Arafangion, no thats wrong as well
[06:51] <james_xxx> were there any updates today that may have broken x?
[06:51] <holycow> Arafangion, if you are just doing basic archiving instead of using cds
[06:51] <Neo8750> has anyone runing edgy got a custom usplash working??
[06:51] <holycow> then you use software raid, you don't gain anything from hardware raid for such simple tasks
[06:51] <holycow> its just raid 1 redundancy mostly that people want and your fine with respect to hd failure
[06:52] <Arafangion> holycow: I could select a random old CD on my shelf and break it.
[06:52] <dragonriot> Arafangion: that's why you don't log in as root. =)
[06:52] <Arafangion> holycow: It doesn't impact any other CD.
[06:52] <holycow> hardware raid is for high performance environments where r/w and reliability is critical
[06:52] <holycow> i could select an hd that doesn' tbreak the other mirror
[06:52] <james_xxx> can anyone see what i am typing?
[06:52] <holycow> james_xxx, nope
[06:52] <holycow> >_>
[06:52] <james_xxx> ok
[06:52] <Arafangion> holycow: I could select 5 CD's, and not be worried.
[06:52] <holycow> hehe  :)
[06:53] <Arafangion> holycow: Heck, if I wanted to, I could toss the older half!
[06:53] <holycow> Arafangion, you can but all that data would be permanently gone
[06:53] <dragonriot> seriously, if I didn't have a file server at home and at the office, I'd have about 100DVDs burned or 700CDs burned just to carry around all my software.
[06:53] <holycow> i could select one hd, 50% of my archive would be gone but i would have 100% data recoverability
[06:53] <Arafangion> holycow: That data is so old It's practically guaranteed that I haven't deleted that data by accident.
[06:53] <holycow> for you however you would have 100% data loss and a total of 10% or so complete data unrecoverability
[06:53] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Now, I don't like CD's for _current_ data, indeed.
[06:53] <holycow> Arafangion, then why bother archiving?
[06:54] <james_xxx> i just rebooted a PC and X was dead... i have no reason why. the only thing i have done today was install updates, and i just added one of those sitches that allow you to have two PCs hooked to one monitor
[06:54] <Arafangion> holycow: Accident prevention.
[06:54] <Gevaudan82> dragonriot: jesus, how much software do you have..my collection of windows software anyways fits on two dvds...i never bother archiving linux software because it changes so much
[06:54] <james_xxx> has anyone else had issues with broken X?
[06:54] <holycow> if its old an dyou don't need it then its stupid
[06:54] <MTecknology> I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the only value is 1280x768, but when i try to change screen resolution, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22899
[06:54] <Gevaudan82> james_xxx: no
[06:54] <holycow> bottom line, cds are a dead technology, there is not a single valid reason to use them besides 'i wanna'
[06:54] <holycow> :)
[06:54] <Arafangion> holycow: Since I started the habit, I have never, not once, lost any data whatsoever.
[06:54] <james_xxx> crap. i wonder what the deal is
[06:54] <PathagenX> james_xxx, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg
[06:54] <holycow> Arafangion, sure, just wait till your first batch of bad cds
[06:54] <holycow> when they all  bubble up 3 weeks after you just burned some gigs off
[06:55] <holycow> then come talk to me :)
[06:55] <dragonriot> Arafangion: I just deleted 100gb of a windows backup from my file server by accident... but it was my D: drive, so I know everything I deleted is replaceable, since it mostly came from the file server in the first place.
[06:55] <holycow> i've had hd's fail but never bubble :)
[06:55] <james_xxx> PathagenX, i was hoping to avoid that, but here goes....
[06:55] <dragonriot> Arafangion: I was pissed for doing it, but I didn't lose anything important... it's just a time issue...
[06:55] <PathagenX> I know. It sucks
[06:55] <Homer> is it possible to cover lost data from a failed HDD?
[06:55] <james_xxx> PathagenX, ahould that be xserver-xorg?
[06:55] <aum> hi - how do i change the command that gets executed when I click the 'hibernate' button?
[06:55] <PathagenX> I had to do it yesterday and I hated it.
[06:55] <holycow> Homer, 98% the time yes
[06:56] <PathagenX> xserver-xorg or xorg-xserver
[06:56] <holycow> Homer, most hd failures just mean an electronic component failed or the head stopped working
[06:56] <Homer> yeah there is no physical damage to my HDD
[06:56] <Arafangion> This is getting damn irritating: 14:54 < holycow> bottom line, cds are a dead technology, there is not a single valid reason to use them besides 'i wanna'
[06:56] <Homer> it loosk perfect
[06:56] <Arafangion> 14:54 < holycow> :)
[06:56] <holycow> there are service beraus that can recover all data from an hd by removing th eplatters an dputting them into proper read housing
[06:56] <Homer> but won't be dedected
[06:56] <Arafangion> Damn, wrong paste!
[06:57] <Arafangion> THIS is getting damn irritating:
[06:57] <Arafangion> http://rafb.net/paste/results/aKH1gm39.html
[06:57] <holycow> Homer, if the head however is scraping your platters, your data is basically gone
[06:57] <holycow> Arafangion, hey :) you threw some good stuff my way, i was curious if i could  bounce it  back :)
[06:57] <dragonriot> Gevaudan82: I have 500GB of total drive space and 10% free on my archive drives... about 40-60% left on my unsorted drives.  of that, I have Slackware ISOs, Ubuntu ISO and Edubuntu ISO... the rest is Windows apps.
[06:57] <holycow> if ya like cds, ya why not
[06:57] <MTecknology> I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the only value is 1280x768, but when i try to change screen resolution only, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 show up.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22899
[06:57] <holycow> dragonriot, you could basically remove all the linux isos
[06:58] <Arafangion> holycow: Ha :)
[06:58] <holycow> they are completely useless when you can download the latest ones off the net
[06:58] <luckyone> can anyone tell me why the suid for cdrecord is not set?
[06:58] <Gevaudan82> dragonriot: yea, remove the linux isos...they change too often to archive
[06:58] <holycow> you can also delete all the windows software, no one uses that crap
[06:58] <holycow> >_>
[06:58] <holycow> hehe :)
[06:58] <PathagenX> lurkergirl! XD
[06:58] <holycow> which would leave you with 90% free space
[06:58] <holycow> hehe :)
[06:58] <Arafangion> holycow: Actually, my system is a laptop system, and it's often disconnected, which changes the dynamics of the situation a tad :)
[06:59] <Arafangion> holycow: I do have an external drive, which I sometimes use, but it's only 40g.
[06:59] <holycow> Arafangion, in that case *nod*
[07:00] <dragonriot> only reason the Linux ISOs are there is because Slackware 10.2 has been 10.2 for 6 months or more, and (Edu)Ubuntu was just downloaded last week, so I haven't purged them yet.
[07:00] <Arafangion> holycow: Six years ago, though, my dad had a shelf of floppies, labelled from 1 to 900, which represented data he needed for his business.
[07:00] <holycow> lol
[07:00] <dragonriot> holycow: lol
[07:01] <holycow> :) ah yeah dude i've seen that
[07:01] <Arafangion> holycow: These were not themselves backed up, and where not backups of the data on the computers!
[07:01] <holycow> at work we had litterally thousands up until about a year or two ago
[07:01] <Arafangion> holycow: I never trust removeable storage for "working data" these days.
[07:01] <holycow> but they were in the 'decomissioned' box for a while before
[07:01] <holycow> *nod*
[07:01] <holycow> dragonriot, i'm buggin ya :)
[07:01] <Arafangion> holycow: It was amazing how many were corrupt, and heck, one plastic drawer of them had an ants nest.
[07:02] <dragonriot> 1gb flash drives are $20.00 now....
[07:02] <Arafangion> holycow: Sugar ants, with eggs and all that.
[07:02] <dragonriot> holycow: not at all.
[07:02] <holycow> Arafangion, heh actually thats what i found out too
[07:02] <holycow> floppies werent as reliable as i thought
[07:02] <holycow> they very much degrade a lot too
[07:02] <Arafangion> holycow: With any data storage system, one has to be aware of the limitations.
[07:03] <dragonriot> how long does a drive platter last if you leave it running 24 hours a day?  would it void the warranty by doing that?  all storage is volatile, removable or not... it just depends how well you take care of your storage media.
[07:04] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Quite a long time.
[07:04] <Milktea> Hey, why does flash in my internet browsers produce no sound
[07:04] <torpedo|dog> I'm having problems with Xnest and GDM, and unfortunately I can't be much more specific than that.
[07:05] <torpedo|dog> Milktea: Flash on Linux has sound issues.
[07:05] <torpedo|dog> You are not alone.
[07:05] <Milktea> and why do certain javascript scripts not work on many of my browsers?
[07:05] <Milktea> ah, ok
[07:05] <richiefrich> dragonriot what am i m issing
[07:05] <torpedo|dog> Milktea: well, they were probably written for Internet Explorer.
[07:05] <dragonriot> Arafangion: how about if you were to make a backup to a hard disk, pull it from the machine and stick it on a shelf, would it last any longer than your burned CDs?
[07:06] <james_xxx> ok, i hooked up this switch to allow two PCs to be connected to one monitor, and i think THAT is what broke X.... what in the world
[07:06] <sid> torpedo|dog: gnash works awesome.
[07:06] <Milktea> Actually, they work fine on my firefox on Windows
[07:06] <Milktea> like deviantart's new menu
[07:06] <dragonriot> richiefrich: just a storage discussion... CDs vs. Hard Drives vs. Flash Drives... etc...
[07:06] <torpedo|dog> sid: eh?
[07:06] <gusto5> is twinview only for displaying one desktop over two displays?
[07:06] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Sure, they would, but would I be able to grab said HDD, and restore it to an arbituary computer/
[07:06] <richiefrich> dragonriot anything i can arguee ?
[07:06] <dragonriot> yes you would...
[07:06] <Arafangion> dragonriot: I can tell you that the task is a damn pain on my laptop, with such HDD's.
[07:06] <dragonriot> richiefrich: possibly.=)
[07:07] <whitesuit> hey, do you guys know any tools to download .ram files ?
[07:07] <Arafangion> whitesuit: A .ram file is the same as any other file, use whatever download tool you like.
[07:08] <dragonriot> do you not have a file server or desktop computer in your house?  hell a 100MHz Pentium 1 can serve files... when you need the stuff off the drive, plug it in with the strategically placed power and IDE cables, mount it, map a network drive and have your files...
[07:08] <dragonriot> Arafangion: ^^^ For you
[07:08] <sid> whitesuit: wget?
[07:08] <medic30420> hello, having issues mounting my windoze partition... everything else mounts fine
[07:08] <whitesuit> nope, i want to download the actual video, the ram file just points to it
[07:09] <Arafangion> dragonriot: I don't like to turn servers off, just to deal with a backup.
[07:09] <dragonriot> medic30420: mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[07:09] <medic30420> let me clarify, it is mounted under media/idedisk
[07:10] <medic30420> dragonriot, that gives me an error
[07:10] <dragonriot> Arafangion: neither do I... that's why I have 500GB of storage, and why CD-R Media is crap for archiving... personally, I prefer a CD burn to take to a friend's or client's house/business
[07:10] <dragonriot> medic30420: what error?
[07:11] <medic30420> "you must specify filesystem type"
[07:11] <dragonriot> medic30420: is it a separate drive?
[07:11] <tRSS> which file do I have to edit, to add dns servers?
[07:11] <dragonriot> or a partition on a single drive?
[07:11] <medic30420> i have two vfat partitions, one mounts fine, the windows keeps mounting under /media/idedisk
[07:11] <medic30420> only one drive
[07:11] <medic30420> 5 partitions
[07:12] <medic30420> my ntfs partitions even mounts fine
[07:12] <medic30420> my fstab file entry for hda1(windows) looks identical to the other vfat part (except for mount point)
[07:12] <dragonriot> is this windows XP?
[07:12] <medic30420> yep
[07:13] <medic30420> fresh install after linux
[07:13] <dragonriot> why are you using vfat?
[07:13] <medic30420> i thought it would be easier to get access to files from linux
[07:13] <dragonriot> wait... you installed windows after Linux?
[07:13] <medic30420> yep
[07:13] <dragonriot> ok... start over.... how many GB is your hard drive?
[07:13] <medic30420> 40
[07:14] <dragonriot> not big enough to dual boot...
[07:14] <medic30420> i can dual boot fine
[07:14] <torpedo|dog> dragonriot: au contraire!
[07:14] <dragonriot> do you have another one, say 20GB?
[07:14] <medic30420> it is a laptop
[07:14] <medic30420> xp and linux coexist nicely on this machine
[07:14] <dragonriot> torpedo|dog: I know... I'm just kidding. =)  I have a 40gb laptop that is getting ubuntu soon as well..
[07:15] <torpedo|dog> dragonriot: oh, sorry, the sarcasmometre needs a little calibration
[07:15] <dragonriot> so are you using NTLDR?
[07:15] <dragonriot> a bit. =)
[07:15] <medic30420> fuse
[07:15] <medic30420>  my xp partition is fat32
[07:15] <dragonriot> I don't know fuse...
[07:15] <dragonriot> first mistake... and its a biggie...
[07:16] <medic30420> my data partition for xp is ntfs
[07:16] <dragonriot> your XP Partition should always, 100% of the time (unless its a VM) be NTFS.
[07:16] <torpedo|dog> medic30420: I thought FUSE was a complex framework for making filesysytems do stuff
[07:16] <medic30420> hold on...
[07:16] <dragonriot> drive C: should be NTFS.
[07:16] <Gevaudan82> dragonriot: i dissagree.fat32 is fine to share between linux and windows pcs if you can stomach the 4gb limit
[07:16] <dragonriot> drive D: NTFS or FAT32.
[07:16] <medic30420> ntfs-3g on fuse
[07:16] <gusto5> how can i get something to display different desktops on different moniters?!
[07:17] <holycow> Gevaudan82, its only a 4gb limit on windows
[07:17] <medic30420> 4g limit... i thought it was 20
[07:17] <holycow> on linux it can be fairly large without data loss
[07:17] <medic30420> this may be my issue... my fat32 part is 10G
[07:17] <Gevaudan82> dragonriot: ntfs write support is too unstable...i use an external drive formatted using fat32 connected to my linux server which i access from my windows pc via samba...works fine
[07:17] <medic30420> (the one that doesn't work)
[07:17] <dragonriot> Gevaudan82: indeed, it is fine to share, but I don't want my linux install sharing my windows drive... my data drive, sure...
[07:18] <james_xxx> is there any reason why adding one of these switches that allow two PCs to be connected to one monitor/keyboard/mouse would break X??
[07:18] <Gevaudan82> dragonriot: sorry, i think i popped up mid conversation...carry on :)
[07:18] <medic30420> no prob....
[07:18] <fokuslee> hi does 6600gt work with compiz? and any good guides to installing it? does it matter if i use a custom kernel?
[07:18] <dragonriot> Gevaudan82: when would you need your linux install to have control over your C:Windows directory?  never.... so why share it unless you are testing the next NTFS writing development...
[07:19] <b0ysc0ut> how can i remove the border lines from the terminal?anybody?
[07:19] <medic30420> my xp partition is fat32
[07:19] <Arafangion> How do I umount /home, then mount another partition as /home, while it is in use?
[07:19] <Gevaudan82> dragonriot: i agree...data drives used to share between linux and windows should however by fat32 for the time being
[07:19] <link_36p> anyone here got looking glass working under ubuntu?
[07:19] <medic30420> i need access to it because i am low on space and have some files i want to regularly get to from linux, i don't want to have a windows partition smaller than 10 Gigs
[07:20] <dragonriot> Arafangion: symlink the other partition to /home/folder and go from there... no need to umount anything....
[07:20] <medic30420> ok, that will work
[07:20] <Arafangion> dragonriot: I actually have a need to exchange two partitions.
[07:21] <medic30420> but the fiddler in me still needs to know why it is mounting under a folder when my etc/fstab makes no mention of it
[07:21] <dragonriot> Arafangion: oh... why don't you just mount it somewhere else then, and exchange the data through /tmp?
[07:21] <Arafangion> dragonriot: (Basically I'm shuffling partitions due to a need to carry a 10G file, and the existing partition for it is 9.7G)
[07:21] <dragonriot> medic30420: ok what will work?
[07:21] <Arafangion> dragonriot: /tmp isn't big enough ;)
[07:21] <fokuslee> hi does 6600gt work with compiz? and any good guides to installing it? does it matter if i use a custom kernel?
[07:21] <medic30420> i could symlink it
[07:22] <dragonriot> Arafangion: symlink more space for /tmp out of another drive?
[07:22] <dragonriot> medic30420: I wasn't telling you to symlink anything... and it's a bad idea for what you want to do.
[07:22] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Personally, I'd rather not have a symbolic link mess.
[07:22] <dragonriot> Arafangion: it's just temporary, no?
[07:22] <Arafangion> dragonriot: Nope, permanent.
[07:22] <medic30420> i just want the windows partition mounted in the same place as everything else is mounted
[07:22] <medic30420> oh
[07:22] <dragonriot> Arafangion: oh... well...
[07:22] <zeronenorez> hello
[07:22] <Arafangion> dragonriot: I think I'll just reboot.
[07:23] <bean-oh> probably a frequent question at this point, but will the new gnome version be an upgrade option for dapper or do i have to wait for edgy?
[07:23] <dragonriot> medic30420: can I suggest something?
[07:23] <medic30420> dragonriot sure
[07:23] <zeronenorez> my ubuntu lost the shutdown and the reboot button , how can i get them back
[07:24] <medic30420> zero: right click panel and "add to panel"" you should scroll down and see buttons to add
[07:25] <aum> hi - with the 'logout' button in gnome, how do i re-bind the 'hibernate' button to a different command? (I'm using suspend2)
[07:25] <dragonriot> medic30420: wipe the drive... boot with windows 98, fdisk /mbr, fdisk, wipe all your partitions, create a primary partition of 15GB, extended partition of 25GB... don't make any new partitions in the extended...
[07:26] <zeronenorez> medic30420, no i mean the two buttuns disappeared from power menu
[07:26] <caseyomah> What was the remount command?
[07:27] <zeronenorez> medic30420, and now i only have four buttun:Log Out Lock Screen Switch User and Hibernate
[07:28] <medic30420> zero: oh, i see.  have you rebooted since you lost them?
[07:28] <medic30420> dragonriot: i am listening
[07:29] <zeronenorez> medic30420,no
[07:29] <jmichaelx> ok, can simply switching the type of mouse one uses break X?
[07:29] <medic30420> zero: close your programs and CTRL-ALT-DELETE, it will come back
[07:30] <medic30420> or better
[07:30] <zeronenorez> i'll try
[07:30] <medic30420> zero: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:30] <bean-oh> medic30420, zeronenorez might try ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:30] <PseudoPlacebo> goodnight guys
[07:30] <bean-oh> nm
[07:30] <medic30420> bean-oh, beat you to it
[07:30] <bean-oh> ha
[07:31] <zeronenorez> just restart my X-windows?
[07:31] <medic30420> zero, yeah
[07:31] <bean-oh> zeronenorez, might do it
[07:31] <dragonriot> medic30420: install Windows XP first - on NTFS, do your updates, and install Partition Magic.  Leave C: at 15GB or resize to 10GB, your choice.  create 10-50mb ext3 partition at the beginning of the extended drive, then /(root) 2gb, /usr 4gb, /tmp 1gb, /var 200mb, remaining(/home), 1-2gb swap, 10GB FAT32  (don't label anything, just make them all ext3 with Partition Magic... after it's done, THEN install Ubuntu, and all your
[07:31] <dragonriot>  windows drives will be autodetected.
[07:32] <medic30420> dragon, hmm, but there must be some config file other that fstab
[07:32] <dragonriot> medic30420: the 10-50mb was for /boot, in case you were wondering...
[07:33] <medic30420> dragon, my ubuntu has compiz running sweetly, i am thinking about reformatting just the windows partition and reinstalling xp then fixing the MB
[07:33] <medic30420> MBR
[07:33] <dragonriot> medic30420: /dev/hda1       /media/windows-c fat32    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:33] <dragonriot> medic30420: does that work in your fstab?
[07:33] <Flannel> medic30420: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  for instructions on that
[07:34] <medic30420> that is currently my fstab, and it mounts to /media/idedisk
[07:34] <medic30420> (wait, my current fstab mounting point is /windows instead of /media/windows-c)
[07:35] <dragonriot> ok... so can you navigate there?
[07:35] <holycow> medic30420, as long as that folder exists it should be fine ... but you should create the folder in /media for consistency
[07:35] <medic30420> dragon, no the folder is empty
[07:35] <dragonriot> holycow: agreed
[07:35] <dragonriot> pardon me... I need to switch to xchat... this thing sucks...
[07:36] <shriphani> could anyone help me with wireless issues ?
[07:36] <medic30420> dragon, holy, all of my other mountpoints are under root, but regardless, why is my windows partition mounted under /media/idedisk when fstab doesn't mention the directory
[07:36] <dragonriot_> right then...
[07:37] <dragonriot> hold on... need to change colors... can't read shit...
[07:37] <dragonriot> woops...
[07:37] <dragonriot> pardon my french
[07:37] <shriphani> umm anyone ?
[07:37] <medic30420> shriphani: be more specific
[07:38] <kwtm> I have a question about Gnumeric: How do I convert a formula in a cell to the actual result?  Example: say cell C1 is "=A1+B1" and the result (at the moment) is "5".  I want to replace "=A1+B1" with "5".  Is there a button I can press, like Ctrl-F5 or something?
[07:38] <shriphani> i cant use my wireless connection
[07:38] <kwtm> (tried asking on #gnumeric @ irc.gnome.org, but received no answer)
[07:38] <bean-oh> shriphani, again, more specfic
[07:38] <medic30420> shriphani: what hardware are you using
[07:38] <shriphani> network manager detects the interface
[07:38] <shriphani> but it is dead
[07:38] <shriphani> it wont connect
[07:39] <shriphani> dmesg says radio kill switch is on
[07:39] <fokuslee> anyone can recommand some cool linux games?
[07:39] <bean-oh> fokuslee, nethack
[07:39] <fokuslee> i just started using linux
[07:39] <fokuslee> what is it about?
[07:39] <fokuslee> rpg ?
[07:39] <fokuslee> fps?
[07:39] <DarkMageZ> fokuslee, warsow, quake 3
[07:39] <bean-oh> google it
[07:39] <shriphani> and when i do sudo eth1 txpower auto
[07:39] <fokuslee> k thx
[07:39] <shriphani> it says set failed on device
[07:39] <fokuslee> quake3 is free?
[07:39] <sladen> fokuslee: nethack: text-based game
[07:39] <shriphani> sudo iwconfig ^
[07:40] <fokuslee> do i have to run cedega?
[07:40] <medic30420> dragon,holy: grrr, thanks for the help... i think i am off to reformat hda1
[07:40] <fokuslee> thx sladen im gonna check it out
[07:40] <DarkMageZ> fokuslee, quake 3 is now opensource, but the game data still belongs to ID. so if u have a copy of the game, u can play it
[07:40] <sladen> shriphani: that card (eg. ipw2200) will have its own power-saving
[07:40] <medic30420> by all
[07:40] <shriphani> sladen, that means ?
[07:40] <bean-oh> shriphani, kill switch? your laptop have a manual switch to disable wireless?
[07:40] <fokuslee> k thx
[07:40] <kwtm> fokuslee: Battle for Wesnoth is a turn-based graphics strategy game (wargame)
[07:40] <shriphani> bean-oh, nope
[07:40] <dragonriot> holycow: why didn't he just reinstall windows first?  I don't get it....
[07:41] <sladen> shriphani: the 'power auto' command is for Orinoco (one particular brand/model/chipset of cards)
[07:41] <shriphani> oh
[07:41] <bean-oh> shriphani, i'd google your laptop model and google, and maybe you'll find some specifics
[07:41] <holycow> dragonriot, i think its in the bible: thou shalt not question a noob
[07:41] <holycow> >_>
[07:41] <fokuslee> ty all sure beats playing frozen bubble all day
[07:41] <shriphani> then what about broadcom ?
[07:41] <holycow> heh thats quotable :)
[07:41] <caseyomah> what was the command to mount vfat drwxrwxrwx?
[07:41] <dragonriot> holycow: indeed it is, my new signature for forums I think... =)
[07:41] <dk> ok, im new to ubuntuo.. im going to install it via live cd.. now i have windows xp installed on a 40 gig hard drive, NTFS, how should i go abouts installing
[07:42] <richiefrich> dragonriot what did you switch too
[07:42] <holycow> dragonriot, rofl, go for it :)
[07:42] <holycow> hehe
[07:42] <richiefrich> dragonriot irssi ?
[07:42] <Gevaudan82> caseyomah: add to fstab defaults,rw,uid=000
[07:42] <sladen> caseyomah: -o umask=0  probably
[07:42] <dragonriot> richiefrich: switched from xchat-gnome to xchat proper...
[07:42] <Gevaudan82> caseyomah: the uid is really what sets 777 permissions
[07:42] <jmichaelx> ok guys... whoever is interested... it was switching from a USB to a PS/2 mouse  that was keeping my X from starting. good grief...
[07:42] <Arafangion> jmichaelx: Did you reboot in the mean time?
[07:42] <sladen> caseyomah: is you use 'pmount' _without_ sudo, it'll do the right thing for allowing you to connect to the floppy
[07:42] <caseyomah> Right, the 000 means block nothing, allow 777.
[07:42] <jmichaelx> Arafangion: a few times
[07:42] <richiefrich> dragonriot ahh  the right one.. :P   /me thinks you missed a channel
[07:43] <shriphani> ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.1.1[17179594.064000]  ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
[07:43] <shriphani> [17179594.064000]  Warning: PCI driver ipw2200 has a struct device_driver shutdown method, please update!
[07:43] <shriphani> thats what dmesg says
[07:43] <dragonriot> richiefrich: I did indeed... I was trying to get my colors right...
[07:43] <richiefrich> dragonriot lol
[07:43] <shriphani>  ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection[17179594.500000]  ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:
[07:43] <shriphani> [17179594.500000]  Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
[07:43] <sladen> shriphani: file a bug!
[07:43] <shriphani> then comes that
[07:43] <Arafangion> jmichaelx: Odd, the kernel should detect it and bind it to /dev/mouse or something similar.
[07:43] <Gevaudan82> caseyomah: shouldn't have gone by memory...should basically be this adjusting your paths accordingly:  /dev/sdb1 /media/MAXTOR vfat defaults,auto,rw,umask=000 0 0
[07:43] <caseyomah> Not fd0, ha2
[07:43] <jmichaelx> Arafangion: finally , X came back up and i dpkg-reconfigured...... but mouse was dead
[07:43] <shriphani> it worked fine for a few months
[07:44] <shriphani> then one fine day when i sat on the box it was dead
[07:44] <sladen> shriphani: you probably have a hardware wifi KILL switch somewhere, flick it to the 'on' position
[07:44] <Arafangion> jmichaelx: Ahh, you're using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then.  What device did you use for the mouse?
[07:44] <shriphani> sladen, this happened many times before
[07:44] <shriphani> many = once
[07:44] <jmichaelx> hmm.... Arafangion, this all started when i added that switch to have 2 PCs connected to one monitor/keyboard/mouse
[07:44] <sladen> shriphani: it will if the laptop's wifi on/off switch is in the off position
[07:45] <jmichaelx> Arafangion: i am not sure , lol.... i reconfigured 2 times
[07:45] <Arafangion> jmichaelx: You may have to ensure that the switch is turned onto the respective computer as it's starting.
[07:45] <sladen> shriphani: look on the left/righthand sides, or for a keycombination such as Fn-F5 or similar
[07:45] <jmichaelx> hmm
[07:45] <Arafangion> jmichaelx: Once it's been detected, and x11 loaded, you may be safe to change.
[07:45] <jmichaelx> i see
[07:46] <jmichaelx> Arafangion: i have an identical switch connected to another set of PCs , and never had an issue
[07:46] <sladen> jmichaelx: when X (the graphics subsystem) is upgraded, it probes the size and frequency limits from the monitor
[07:46] <shriphani> woot i found the switch
[07:46] <dk> if i resize my partition, will i lose the data thats on it
[07:46] <Gevaudan82> dk: no
[07:47] <shriphani> i thought ubuntu didnt support it
[07:47] <dk> and if the partition is ntfs, should i still resize it and install ubuntu?
[07:47] <jmichaelx> Arafangion: right now i have the switch connected, but am having to use 2 mice
[07:47] <jmichaelx> i see
[07:47] <sladen> jmichaelx: so the monitor must be "connected" (switch in the correct position) when X is updated or upgraded
[07:47] <Gevaudan82> dk: be careful resizing ntfs partitions using linux or hell be careful resizing linux partitions using partition magic...i've been to weary to try this
[07:48] <bean-oh> probably a frequent question at this point, but will the new gnome version be an upgrade option for dapper or do i have to wait for edgy?
[07:48] <jmichaelx> sladen: i see, that makes sense
[07:48] <Flannel> bean-oh: edgy
[07:48] <dk> hmm
[07:48] <bean-oh> Flannel, poop.
[07:48] <holycow> bean-oh, wtf does that mean?
[07:48] <holycow> oh i see
[07:48] <dk> i wonder whats the best way to get win xp and ubuntu running on the same harddrive
[07:48] <sladen> shriphani: don't worry, those wifi switches get all of us
[07:48] <holycow> bean-oh, all ubuntu stable release receive NO UPGRADES
[07:48] <shriphani> sladen i found the switch
[07:48] <Flannel> !tell dk about dualboot
[07:48] <holycow> bean-oh, all they recieve is security patches
[07:48] <shriphani> and it is right near the right hand
[07:49] <holycow> bean-oh, just a heads up :)
[07:49] <Gevaudan82>  dk: wipe everything clean...create a partition for windows and install it there and then install ubuntu and use the remaing free space
[07:49] <sladen> shriphani: fantastic
[07:49] <shriphani> i can happily knock it off while yping
[07:49] <dk> ty
[07:49] <jmichaelx> what do i need to do to get it to where this PC will work with a PS/2 mouse?
[07:49] <holycow> jmichaelx, usually its just plug it in and go
[07:49] <dk> that sounds good
[07:49] <bean-oh> holycow, thats only with the default repos though. i have mine set to do updates as well as security patches
[07:49] <Flannel> dk: read the link ubotu sent you
[07:49] <Gevaudan82> jmichaelx: two chicks at the same time
[07:49] <sladen> jmichaelx: PS/2 is not a hotplugable protocol, so make sure the mouse is plugged in at boottime
[07:49] <holycow> jmichaelx, however, alternatively you need to look up th eproper entryh for your xorg.conf file
[07:50] <holycow> what sladen said also
[07:50] <Flannel> bean-oh: 'updates' are security/bugfixes.  There are no new versions in repositories
[07:50] <sladen> jmichaelx: a USB mouse, you can plug in at any time
[07:50] <holycow> bean-oh, there are NO updates for stable releases
[07:50] <jmichaelx> sladen: holycow: well, this will take some playing.....
[07:50] <holycow> bean-oh, you might have non official repos in which case you are taking your own install into your own hands
[07:50] <holycow> jmichaelx, well try sladens suggestion first
[07:51] <bean-oh> Flannel, didn't know that either. i suppose i should have.
[07:51] <jmichaelx> holycow: yes, i'll try that tomorrow
[07:51] <jmichaelx> thanks for  the help and goodnight all!
[07:51] <holycow> :) he's probably got the right suggestion infact, mine is for when that doesn't work
[07:51] <bean-oh> holycow, no, just the official, just a victim of semantics
[07:51] <holycow> bean-oh, :) all good
[07:52] <infidel> what's the best software to find a network printer?
[07:52] <sladen> infidel: the 'Cups' printing system is built in
[07:53] <bean-oh> gonna have to sit on my hands until edgy. usually i get antsy, and try and do things manually and royally screw up my system.
[07:53] <Gevaudan82> infidel: you shouldn't need additional software if things are setup correctly...do you know it's dns name or ip?
[07:53] <holycow> bean-oh, that is the berst way to learn :) its fun too
[07:53] <sladen> infidel: if you want to find printers shared by MS Windows machines, you'll need 'samba' that allows Ubuntu to communicate with the printer and file sharing system of MS Windows' machines
[07:53] <infidel> Gevaudan82: i know it's ip nd i can ping it but i can't print
[07:53] <holycow> bean-oh, experimenting is encouraged if you have the right attitude
[07:53] <holycow> we discourage it for noobs with the wrong attitude however
[07:53] <aum> ping
[07:54] <Gevaudan82> infidel: do you have it's drivers?
[07:54] <bean-oh> holycow, oh i know, i've been breaking linux systems since the 2.2 kernel. just new to ubuntu.
[07:54] <infidel> Gevaudan82: yeah i do
[07:54] <holycow> bean-oh, hehe :) sweet
[07:54] <infidel> Gevaudan82: they are in cupsd
[07:54] <infidel> Gevaudan82: or cups
[07:54] <Flannel> bean-oh: well, you can try out edgy currently.  It'll be beta in two weeks, at that.
[07:55] <Gevaudan82> infidel: hmm...honestly i've only configured network printers using samba so i won't be of much help from here on out...anybody else?
[07:55] <bean-oh> Flannel, yeah, i might give a go with the beta. i have an extra laptop to mess with. didnd't really want to get involved with anything alpha
[07:55] <infidel> Gevaudan82: when i clicked on smb when setting up it kept asking me for a password
[07:56] <aum> many thanks to ubuntu devs and other personnel - you've saved me many hours of pain setting up my new workstation (compared to debian)
[07:56] <Flannel> bean-oh: well, you can always dualboot, if youve got extra space but no extra machine
[07:56] <Gevaudan82> infidel: if that printers is directly connected to the network meanign it has an ethernet port and ip you don't need samba
[07:56] <infidel> Gevaudan82: it is
[07:56] <bean-oh> Flannel, yeah. might do that.
[07:56] <bean-oh> gnite all.
[07:57] <Gevaudan82> infidel: but for future reference...smbpasswd -a username creates a samba username and prompts you for the password
[07:57] <justin_> Does anyone know what is the best AGP aperture size in Ubuntu, for a card with 64MB video ram and 256mb system ram --> 128mb?
[07:58] <Arafangion> justin_: Leave it unspecified
[07:58] <justin_> Arafangion: I do not have that option in my bios.. :(
[07:58] <justin_> I checked.. I only have 64-256
[07:58] <infidel> Gevaudan82: can i scan the network for a printer?
[07:59] <jshriver> greetings everyone.
[07:59] <jshriver> hope everyone is well :)
[07:59] <justin_> jshriver: As good as possible I suppose ;D
[08:00] <jshriver> I'm curious.. one reason I love Ubuntu is the much larger software collection compared to Debian..
[08:00] <Arafangion> justin_: Do a googoe for "AGP Apeture", quite a few very informative results, especially result #2
[08:00] <jshriver> however I'm suprised.. pose isn't listed
[08:00] <zeronenorez> anyone met the problem of can't Choosing Shut down from GNOME Power menu here?
[08:00] <Gevaudan82> infidel: if you already know the printer ip there's no need to scan...you've tried ubuntu's network printer configuration and it didn't work?
[08:00] <holycow> jshriver, dude
[08:00] <justin_> Arafangion: Ok, thank you.
[08:00] <holycow> jshriver, please stop talking now
[08:00] <jshriver> holycow, ?
[08:00] <holycow> jshriver, thats completely stupid
[08:00] <Arafangion> justin_: Of course, this is assuming that the setting makes any difference once the OS loads.
[08:00] <justin_> zeronenorez: Xfce4 here :P
[08:00] <holycow> jshriver, ubuntu freezes debian unstable every 6 months
[08:00] <jshriver> holycow, ?
[08:01] <holycow> jshriver, effectively ubuntu is debian + modifications 10 million per year buys you
[08:01] <BHSPitMonkey> hey alll
[08:01] <zeronenorez> justin_, u all use Xfce4?
[08:01] <jshriver> Well I ran debian for several years... while it was nice.. adding universe/multiverse there's a lot more software to grab..
[08:01] <e-type> zeronenorez: I've had that
[08:01] <BHSPitMonkey> s/alll/all/
[08:01] <Gevaudan82> jshriver: even compared to debian, redhat/centos has it beat in my opinion if you enable all the extra repos...but apt-get is so much faster
[08:01] <flasher> without rebooting or logging out, is there a way to run a program (and just that one program) as a different user, while having all other programs running just the way they are?
[08:01] <holycow> jshriver, dude stop saying shit you don't understand
[08:01] <zeronenorez> e-type,and u solved it?
[08:01] <justin_> Arafangion: Oh it does, you will notice it if you have a card with 64mb of ram, since I have changed it to 128 I have noticed that .. when the disk is accessed the mouse stalls - yet, video is faster .. especially flash video.
[08:01] <e-type> zeronenorez: think adding a visudo line for /sbin/shutdown fixed it, but not sure if that's the ubuntu way
[08:01] <jshriver> holycow, either way Ubuntu has more software available via apt-get than Debian..
[08:01] <justin_> zeronenorez: Yes sir
[08:01] <holycow> jshriver, the exact same software from debian is in ubuntu
[08:01] <holycow> same software sam enumber of software
[08:01] <jshriver> aye.. but holycow offers more
[08:01] <holycow> no ti doesn't offer more
[08:01] <holycow> it has the same software you retard
[08:01] <jshriver> er s/holycow/ubuntu
[08:02] <zeronenorez> justin_, :D ur funny
[08:02] <justin_> I cannot stand Gnome, or Kde - Xfce is perfect in my opinion well XFCE4 anyways - I probably will not upgrade to the next version :D
[08:02] <jshriver> then why can't I apt-get install pose?
[08:02] <zeronenorez> e-type, i'll try
[08:02] <holycow> saying stupid stuff like that in here is bad it spreads wrong information to noobs that may not be aware
[08:02] <holycow> stop that
[08:02] <BHSPitMonkey> got an issue: usually when I close my laptop lid, I re-open it, and get my screensaver lock. yay. sometimes (now) I'll open it, and the screen decides not to even turn on. I'll switch VT's, to no avail. it seems like it's running fine, beneath that black screen...
[08:02] <Arafangion> justin_: Really?  I'll have to see if my BIOS has that option too, as I have an ATI graphics card with 64 MB of dedicated graphics memory on my laptop. (And I always like to make it faster for my 3D programming)
[08:02] <justin_> zeronenorez: Amusing? - perhaps, if amusing to you means having more CPU/RAM time for things that I actually want to do. :P
[08:02] <jshriver> holycow, then tell me .. how do I apt-get install the binary only Nvidia drivers for my card.. in Debian? can do it in Ubuntu using the non-free section? ...
[08:03] <jshriver> anyway.. want to get pose installed "Palm Emulator"
[08:03] <Gevaudan82> BHSPitMonkey: most laptops encounter this at one point or another...it's hardware specific though so search specifically for your laptop
[08:03] <jshriver> and it's not in my cache
[08:03] <holycow> *sigh* jshriver please be quiet. the more you talk the dumber you sound
[08:03] <e-type> justin_: sjees man, what do you care about people's environments of choice
[08:03] <justin_> Arafangion: Indeed if you raise it from 64mb aperture, to 128 - it will perform quicker especially if you pass pageflip, and accelmethod options to XORG.
[08:03] <jshriver> I dont mind being "dumb" but if you teach me I'll learn
[08:03] <aum> jshriver: there's an easier way - just install the kernel-headers package for your running kernel, then download/install the nvidia driver from the nvidia site
[08:03] <zeronenorez> justin_,can u give me a screenshut of Xfce4
[08:03] <Gevaudan82> jshriver: will you be my student?
[08:04] <e-type> zeronenorez: check their website ;)
[08:04] <Arafangion> justin_: I'm using the proprietary ati drivers.
[08:04] <jshriver> aum: aye that's what I use to do... but in Ubuntu I can just apt-get install them w/o having to go threw the trouble
[08:04] <justin_> e-type: I do not I simply made a statement that I prefer XFCE is all - I think it is all about choice ;)
[08:04] <Arafangion> justin_: Could you put up a website detailing your optimizations?
[08:04] <jshriver> Ubuntu, at least from what I've seen, isn't as anal as debian
[08:04] <Gevaudan82> justin_: that website needs to be done in the next two hours btw
[08:04] <e-type> justin_: how many times do you think we all saw your reasons?
[08:04] <justin_> Arafangion: Sure I could - however not this evening, if you see me again - I will have the info posted BUT I am not using fglrx, but "radeon"
[08:04] <jshriver> Debian is 100% pure GPL..
[08:05] <zeronenorez> i don't like the official screenchut, i want to know how it could be changed ;D
[08:05] <jshriver> Ubuntu is 100% whatever works under linux, and is freely available.. w/o having to buy
[08:05] <jshriver> am I wrong in that sense?
[08:05] <justin_> e-type: I am not sure - have you been counting?, give me the total.
[08:05] <Arafangion> jshriver: Incorrect.
[08:05] <zeronenorez> e-type, i don't like the official screenchut, i want to know how it could be changed ;D
[08:05] <jshriver> I somewhat agree Ubuntu has everything debian has.. but there's more
[08:05] <BeShaMo> hey, I'm having problems with skim in kubuntu, all but smart pinyin seems to work, but it's smart pinyin I really need
[08:05] <jshriver> ok here's a simple concrete, example
[08:05] <aum> how does ubuntu make its $$ ?
[08:05] <jshriver> xorg?
[08:05] <justin_> zeronenorez: Well official will be good, I use it vanilla :P
[08:05] <jshriver> need I say more
[08:05] <infidel> Gevaudan82: no it didn't work
[08:05] <Arafangion> jshriver: Debian Etch.
[08:05] <Gevaudan82> aum: a rich investor
[08:05] <meal3837> !bios
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <holycow> jshriver, ubuntyu repos = debian repost ,its that simple
[08:05] <Gevaudan82> aum: the guy who is funding it in other words
[08:06] <Arafangion> jshriver: Debian Etch uses xorg.
[08:06] <aum> Gevaudan82, mainly just one guy?
[08:06] <holycow> jshriver, having a handfull of prepackaged apps that you can also get installed on debian with a few extra commands is not really saying IT HAS MORE SOFTWARE
[08:06] <meal3837> does anyone know how I can update my BIOS?
[08:06] <jshriver> Debian wont touch Xorg because of the non GPL restrictions of the hardware restrictions in the non-GPL drivers... but Ubuntu does.. which is one reason I like it
[08:06] <Gevaudan82> aum: mainly yes...he hired a bunch of the hard core debian developers...wiki has a good article on it
[08:06] <justin_> meal3837: Consult your manufacturer - or bios maker..
[08:06] <holycow> jshriver, ubuntu and debian old timers are telling you they are the same, therefore they are
[08:06] <jshriver> *sigh*
[08:06] <Arafangion> jshriver: Bullshit, are you LISTENING?
[08:07] <zeronenorez> justin_, thx i gonna to change it,too :P
[08:07] <jshriver> I really dont care... ok I'm wrong you are right.. my almighty Liunx lords..
[08:07] <justin_> meal3837: It is usually downloading a floppy image and rebooting - until the update is complete, however if you mess up or lose power - you will need a new bios, and if its sodered.. oh boy.
[08:07] <aum> ubuntu is like debian, but it's 92% ready for average users (compared to debian at 37% ready)
[08:07] <jshriver> then please take pitty on my soul and please tell me.. how do I get either from dpkg/apt.... or from source pose?
[08:07] <justin_> zeronenorez: :P
[08:07] <jshriver> I downloaded it... tried compiling from source and it doesnt compile
[08:07] <holycow> jshriver, its not about right or wrong, its about listening.  some things are well known, comming into this channel claiming somiething that is clearly wrong simply requires a little bit of humbleness to consider that you might indeed be wrong
[08:07] <sunnz2> Does anyone know how to run a wmaker remotely?
[08:07] <justin_> jshriver: Look at the error messages, and download libs.
[08:08] <jshriver> I'll agree I might be wrong.. I didnt know.. or at least had the wrong perspective..
[08:08] <Arafangion> jshriver: Such as randomly assuming that all of debian's software is GPL, or even GPL compatible.
[08:08] <jshriver> very sorry
[08:08] <jshriver> :(
[08:08] <e-type> sunnz2: remotely using what? vnc, xdmcp, X11 over ssh, ... ?
[08:08] <justin_> Also if you are in dapper, and have not yet - you will need to sudo apt-get build-essential
[08:08] <holycow> no need to be sorry, all good dude :)
[08:08] <sunnz2> X11 over ssh, e-type;
[08:08] <Arafangion> jshriver: Debian is also widely recognized for being the largest distro in terms of number of software programs in their repos.
[08:09] <holycow> ubuntu wouldnt exist without debian
[08:09] <meal3837> hmm, the only updates i have been able to find say they are only compatible with windows
[08:09] <jshriver> I love GPL, but personaly I dont let it rule my computing experiance.. I use Linux because it's stable, gives me a wonderful shell and I can do anything I want in it... but I wont let the GPL gospel rule it.. heck I even bought Nero for Linux... so commercial, GPL, BSD I'm really not concerned.. I just want a syste that meets my neds
[08:09] <holycow> jshriver, debian isn't all about gpl
[08:09] <holycow> infact debian ships a shitload of non gpl stuff
[08:09] <holycow> please stop spewing crap
[08:09] <holycow> mk?
[08:09] <jshriver> Arafangion, I wont argue with that.. I still run Debian on 14 computers... and ran it as my main desktop for nearly 5 years...
[08:09] <Arafangion> holycow: Thanks. :)
[08:10] <justin_> meal3837: Umm.. that is strange because usually you do not actually update your BIOS in any operating system, seeing as you need to boot to a disk --- unless it stores the info in a folder, and then reboots.
[08:10] <Arafangion> jshriver: Yet you display a surprising lack of knowledge about Debian.
[08:10] <holycow> jshriver, then how can you possible be saying such stupid things?
[08:10] <jshriver> ok I didnt know.. it was something I had thought to be true, but see now that it isnt..
[08:10] <sunnz2> Anyone know how to run wmaker remotely via X11 on ssh?
[08:10] <jshriver> honestly and humbly I'm sorry..
[08:10] <holycow> jshriver, i don't believe for one second that you run debian
[08:10] <dfgas> is there any good video editing software on linux free?
[08:10] <dfgas> or any at al
[08:10] <e-type> sunnz2: did you try to follow this? http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth.html
[08:10] <caseyomah> How do I make a symbolic link to a mount point to place on my desktop?
[08:10] <meal3837> damn hp
[08:10] <caseyomah> man symbolic
[08:10] <Gevaudan82> Arafangion: i'll be the first one to say...debian's install absolutely sucks..specifically picking out enough packages to get a base system with a GUI with minimal bloat in order to install whatever you want from there
[08:11] <meal3837> "we do not recommend installing any operating system"
[08:11] <aum> caseyomah: ln -s /path/to/mountpoint ~/Desktop/name-of-mountpoint
[08:11] <meal3837> morons
[08:11] <dragonriot> jshriver: you bought Nero for linux?  WTF is wrong with graveman?  too many deps for you?
[08:11] <holycow> Gevaudan82, well it doesn't your incorrectly categorizing di
[08:11] <jshriver> holycow, hrm.. why else do you think I chose Debian? I've been running Linux since '95, started debian around 01.. fel in love with apt-get :) and dpkg...a friend gave me an ubuntu CD.. and it fixed some problems I was having with Debian.
[08:11] <e-type> caseyomah: drag and drop in nautilus with one of the modifiers will ask you the question to move/link/copy
[08:11] <jshriver> gravemen?
[08:11] <holycow> Gevaudan82, you want a desktop, debian lets you select desktop environment, server etc.
[08:11] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: It's baised for servers, imho, but the install isn't honestly that bad. Tasksel is excellent.
[08:11] <holycow> Gevaudan82, its really not that difficult
[08:11] <holycow> Gevaudan82, what debian doesn't do is add all the spit and polish
[08:11] <justin_> Gevaudan82: Well debian is really aimed towards the experienced Linux user : Who usually has something specific he wants to do with the machine, if you look at it that way it is a great install system.
[08:12] <holycow> Gevaudan82, at one time i thought i could do what ubuntu has done ... polsih up debian desktop experience with a coupla part time coders
[08:12] <aum> also debian doesn't have the desktop integration that ubuntu has
[08:12] <Arafangion> The Etch installer is really good, for instance.
[08:12] <holycow> it turns out you need 10 mil a year to do it right :)
[08:12] <holycow> aum, thats wrong too
[08:12] <Gevaudan82> maybe i'm just biased for it not detecting my hardware and refusing to boot x...fedora,centos,ubuntu,suse all did that
[08:12] <jshriver> I tried xcdroast tried installing the binary-only DVD program.. finally got it to work, but you had to premaster the iso using mkisofs.. and tried the Nero demo.. I can burn a DVD w/o pre-mastering ISO's in 15min... what's wrong with paying for good service.. I dont mind paying someone for their work
[08:12] <holycow> debian has EVERYTHIGN UBUNTU HAS
[08:12] <sunnz2> e-type, it just says play with .xsession or .xrc
[08:12] <holycow> you just haveto do it your self
[08:12] <jshriver> but what's graveman? checking apt now
[08:12] <Arafangion> The only thing that made me install Ubuntu on this particular laptop was because Debian Etch doesn't support my wifi (Sarge did, but not my video, and I really didn't want to use Sid again)
[08:12] <richiefrich> jshriver: why not use the cmd line ?
[08:12] <sunnz2> But I want to do something like forward it to Xnest or something.
[08:12] <richiefrich> ffs it SO easy
[08:12] <jshriver> I do use cmdline 95% of the time
[08:12] <holycow> you know i really need to start a myth debunking thing on the wiki
[08:13] <Arafangion> holycow: Don't bother.
[08:13] <holycow> a whole lot of people here completely misunderstand debian
[08:13] <jshriver> but I didnt like having to pre-build and ISO for building when I can build on the fly
[08:13] <aum> holycow, Linux From Scratch has everything ubuntu has, you just have to do it yourself :P
[08:13] <richiefrich> jshriver it seems not..
[08:13] <holycow> aum, bingo
[08:13] <holycow> :)
[08:13] <zeronenorez> e-type, u mean add to  /etc/acpi/lid.sh ?
[08:13] <Arafangion> holycow: Those who spread the myth won't read it.
[08:13] <holycow> Arafangion, *sigh* perhaps
[08:13] <richiefrich> jshriver pre building it's one cmd
[08:13] <Arafangion> aum: I've been thinking that I should do lfs again, except set it up like OpenBSD.
[08:13] <jshriver> what do you do when you only have 1gig free? and need to burn off a DVD to free up some space? if you are forced to pre-author a ISO you're screwed..
[08:13] <caseyomah> e-type, Okay, I asked the wrong question... How do I make a "device icon" for a mount point on the desktop.
[08:14] <justin_> jshriver: Buy a new hardisk?
[08:14] <justin_> :P
[08:14] <jshriver> richiefrich, aye mkisofs is a wonderful program.. and I use it ever so often
[08:14] <jshriver> justin_, I can't afford it..
[08:14] <e-type> sunnz2: Xnest doesn't support ssh afaik, only plain X11 over tcp/ip which you should of course be able to tunnel over ssh
[08:14] <ashu> can anybody help me with live cd issue.
[08:14] <jshriver> sigh..
[08:14] <justin_> Simp
[08:14] <aum> Arafangion: /me tried some source-based distros like gentoo and sm, got no real advantage from them, now appreciates ubuntu's comforts
[08:14] <e-type> sunnz2: try a plain xdmcp or vnc server, a lot easier and more performant
[08:14] <richiefrich> jshriver  1st of why would you get so low.. 2nd off.. you dont tink that the "one the fly" takes HDD space
[08:14] <Gevaudan82> holycow: i understand the concept of a server os...isn't centos that at it's core? but debian's install procedure is enough to put off anybody
[08:14] <jshriver> Ok I realise noone is going to help me...but before I go I'm truly and very sorry I upset anyone here..
[08:14] <zeronenorez> e-type, u mean i need to add a line to /etc/acpi/lid.sh   ????
[08:14] <Arafangion> aum: I dislike ubuntu on servers.
[08:14] <justin_> jshriver: This is why I would suggest cattle over children, if you need money it is a fast sell and you will recieve that hard disk :)
[08:14] <holycow> Gevaudan82, thats just wrong on so many levels
[08:14] <ashu> everytime when i have to start the pc with ubuntu installed i have to use the live cd to boot..please im me in personal if anybody have gone through this problem
[08:15] <holycow> Gevaudan82, i taught a class of people on how to build their own cheap boxen
[08:15] <e-type> zeronenorez: patience, I can't even remember your initial question, hang on
[08:15] <Gevaudan82> holycow: correct me then...i'm curious
[08:15] <holycow> Gevaudan82, then install debian using di (sarg)
[08:15] <dragonriot> justin_> jshriver: This is why I would suggest cattle over children, if you need money it is a fast sell and you will recieve that hard disk :)     <----- New quote for forums... thanks dude. =)
[08:15] <holycow> wasn't really a frickin problem
[08:15] <jshriver> justin_, lol.. true... and I've raised cattle prob why I live a middle-class life
[08:15] <AdevIanT1> anyone know if a hdinstall is possible from a ubuntu live cd ???
[08:15] <justin_> dragonriot: Haha
[08:15] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: All centos is a cheap Redhat EE knockoff.
[08:15] <lupine_85> aum: portage is possibly the best package management system I've ever seen
[08:15] <e-type> zeronenorez: what do you want to do again?
[08:15] <richiefrich> dragonriot lol
[08:15] <lupine_85> it's just a pity compilation is so slow!
[08:15] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: It's sole reason for existance is that people don't want to actually pay for RH EE
[08:16] <dade`> does anyone know if instally only ubuntu (no dual boot) on a macbook requires special steps for bootloader ?
[08:16] <zeronenorez> e-type,i can't Choosing Shut down from GNOME Power menu
[08:16] <caseyomah> I want to put an icon on my desktop for folder /mnt/120gig (perminant mount point). How do I do that?
[08:16] <aum> lupine_85, it is, when it's not b0rk3n
[08:16] <jshriver> Before I go.. if someone would mind helping me... if you know how to install, compile from source, or whatever to get pose installed on my Debian system.. it would be greatly appreciated
[08:16] <lupine_85> I never managed to b0rk it
[08:16] <e-type> caseyomah: did you remove it by hand? it should be in the gnome-volume-manager options
[08:16] <jshriver> ./configure --host=Linux breaks
[08:16] <PathagenX> nyupe
[08:16] <ashu> everytime when i have to start the pc with ubuntu installed i have to use the live cd to boot..please im me in personal if anybody have gone through this problem
[08:16] <e-type> caseyomah: and it's switched on by default iianm
[08:16] <aum> lupine_85, i used early gentoos, lots of having to manually edit weird config files
[08:16] <Arafangion> jshriver: Why are you using --host=Linux?
[08:16] <caseyomah> It didn't show up, I have it in fstab.
[08:16] <Gevaudan82> Arafangion: a redhat knock off of course, but not necessarilly cheap...i've migrated my home server to ubuntu because i also use it as a a desktop sharing my mouse/keyboard with my laptop using synergy but i've setup about a half dozen centos boxes serving all kinds of things and they are very stable
[08:16] <jshriver> and I dont understand what's wrong with my system.. that it's not in the apt-cache
[08:17] <caseyomah> I manually edited fstab.
[08:17] <lupine_85> ah. 2006.0 was really smooth
 ./configure --host=Linux breaks  <-- ?
[08:17] <e-type> zeronenorez: and what was the link with lid.sh ???
[08:17] <lupine_85> (not tried 2006.1 yet)
[08:17] <jshriver> Arafangion, when I tried ./configure it said it couldnt determine my system and I had to specify
[08:17] <richiefrich> --prefix=
[08:17] <e-type> caseyomah: remove it from fstab if you want it to automount
[08:17] <PathagenX> just do .configure and let it figure everything out for itself
[08:17] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: So, how much is Centos?
[08:17] <AdevIanT1> how du u install from just the live cd anyone??????????????
[08:17] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: Why would you run Centos instead of RH EE?
[08:17] <holycow> Ademan, just click on the install icon on the desktop
[08:17] <holycow> Ademan, how hard can it be?
[08:17] <jshriver> PathagenX, it says it can't determind my system type and I must specify hense why I then tried --host=Linux.. which it does create a Makefile, but when I do make it breaks
[08:17] <PathagenX> jshriver, what does uname -a tell you?
[08:18] <Gevaudan82> Arafangion: absolulytey! no one likes subscription based services especially in terms of support if you don't need it...hell that's the whole reason the .NET project will eventually fail because that is what they are/were banking on
[08:18] <Ademan> holycow: be careful of using tab-complete :-)
[08:18] <holycow> Ademan, doh!
[08:18] <jshriver> Linux DolphinBoy 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:18] <holycow> sorry :) hehe
[08:18] <caseyomah> It's a perminant mount point, I don't want automount, I want it to stay mounted.
[08:18] <Ademan> holycow: i thought someone wanted to talk to me :-p
[08:18] <PathagenX> broken config script
[08:18] <Gevaudan82> Arafangio: i'm not a buisness yet i want a stable os unlike fedora which is cutting edge
[08:18] <jshriver> I'm very sorry I upset you holycow.. especially.. you've helped me in the past and I respect you for that..
[08:18] <holycow> Ademan, again my appologies
[08:18] <holycow> ....
[08:18] <holycow> >_>
[08:18] <holycow> *cough*
[08:18] <zeronenorez> e-type , u told me 'can't Choosing Shut down from GNOME Power menu here?'
[08:18] <holycow> j/k!!!
[08:18] <Ademan> haha
[08:18] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: I think you're confused about .NET, but that's understandable given MS's confusing advertising.
[08:18] <holycow> lol so hello :)
[08:19] <e-type> zeronenorez: that has nothing to do with acpi
[08:19] <zeronenorez> nonon
[08:19] <jshriver> Is mono up to the full .Net specs?
[08:19] <holycow> jshriver, no, it never will be
[08:19] <Gevaudan82> Arafangio: like it or not to this date there is still more articles on redhat based distros than debian on the Internet
[08:19] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: Then run Debian Sarge.
[08:19] <zeronenorez> nononon
[08:19] <Ademan> i actually have a 5 page essay on "honor" to write, freshman english is BS
[08:19] <jshriver> not really concerned... webservices blow.. ick
[08:19] <zeronenorez> e-type, copy mistake :p
[08:19] <e-type> jshriver: no it's not
[08:19] <holycow> jshriver, it will implement whatever has or will become a free spec
[08:19] <zeronenorez> e-type, u told me ' think adding a visudo line for /sbin/shutdown fixed it, but not sure if that's the ubuntu way'
[08:19] <holycow> and then probably diverge onto its own road
[08:20] <PathagenX> Gevaudan82, There is even more for Slackware
[08:20] <jshriver> mono seems like a nice project..
[08:20] <Gevaudan82> Arafangion: i don't think i am....NET is intended to foster web services which in turn would allow microsoft to charge for services it and sponsored providers would provide
[08:20] <e-type> zeronenorez: ... which has nothing to do with acpi...
[08:20] <Arafangion> jshriver: Indeed.
[08:20] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: I think you're talking about the Passport service.
[08:20] <DigitalStimulus> im trying to walk someone through getting fglrx installed on ubuntu dapper, and 3 different install method, including manually loading the module and editing xorg.conf is causing signal 11
[08:20] <zeronenorez> e-type,.....what can i do then?
[08:20] <jshriver> Did mono merge with wine for Windows apps?
[08:20] <Arafangion> jshriver: No.
[08:21] <AdevIanT1> cmon anybody know if permanent system install is possible from just the live ubuntu cd ????????
[08:21] <Gevaudan82> PathagenX: i've installed gentoo but of all the distros I've tried I never could get the hang of a slackware install...all i'm asking is for a base os with minimial fluff and a minimal GUI of my choice where i can do what i want from there
[08:21] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:21] <medic30420> dragonriot: my fstab WAS screwed up
[08:21] <tarkowski> I have a problem that I need help solving as I know little about troubleshooting Ubuntu. By accident I have erased what looks to me like my net drivers - all .ko files in the /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net catalog. 2.6.15-26 is my latest kernel version and now my net connection is broken (I had to switch back to a previous kernel version). what do i do?
[08:21] <DigitalStimulus> PathagenX: done that
[08:21] <Arafangion> jshriver: They considered it once, but decided that it would require too many changes to both mono and wine, and would be easier to just do their own implementation.
[08:21] <Gevaudan82> Arafangion: no that is .NET...i read a HBV case study about it this summer
[08:21] <medic30420> dragonriot: i had the wrong hda# listed, fixed it and now all is well
[08:21] <PathagenX> Gevaudan82, Xubuntu
[08:21] <e-type> zeronenorez: add a line to your sudoers file using visudo
[08:21] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: url?
[08:21] <e-type> zeronenorez: but again, I'm not sure if that's the ubuntu way
[08:21] <DigitalStimulus> PathagenX: X just sends a signal 11 and dies
[08:22] <e-type> zeronenorez: but it fixed it here
[08:22] <Arafangion> tarkowski: How did you erase it?
[08:22] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, Go forum diving
[08:22] <Arafangion> tarkowski: Try apt-get install --reinstall your kernel.
[08:22] <Arafangion> e-type: That is the ubuntu way.
[08:22] <e-type> Gevaudan82: use source mage ;)
[08:22] <DigitalStimulus> PathagenX: hehe, i'm doing that too, was wondering if anyone has any experience with ATI in ubuntu.  was hoping maybe someone has heard of this before
[08:23] <Gevaudan82> Arafangion: gimme a second...i might have the unencrypted version still on my hd...i had to pay for it originally and it came with a bunch of DRM
[08:23] <dragonriot> medic30420: congrats... glad you got it fixed...
[08:23] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: Ah, then I don't want it.
[08:23] <e-type> Arafangion: thx, but how come it's not there by default or a question about it? ;)
[08:23] <e-type> Arafangion: not sure if I should ask you that actually ;) ;) ;)
[08:23] <zeronenorez> e-type, well where's the sudoers file @_@
[08:23] <Arafangion> Gevaudan82: But if it's in a database, such as ACM, tell me enough to let me find it myself :)
[08:23] <Gevaudan82> Arafangion: fair enough
[08:23] <zeronenorez> e-type, found that
[08:23] <e-type> zeronenorez: in a terminal, run '$ sudo visudo'
[08:24] <zeronenorez> ok
[08:24] <e-type> zeronenorez: add a line saying something like this:
[08:24] <tulga> can I decode executable bin file?
[08:24] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, I have
[08:24] <Arafangion> tulga: What file?
[08:24] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, but only an old 3DRage
[08:24] <DigitalStimulus> doh :0)
[08:24] <Arafangion> tulga: You could try... running it? (If you trust it)
[08:24] <tarkowski> arafangion: with rm! wanted to erase just the unusued ndiswrapper file but added a "*" flag by mistake...
[08:24] <tulga> Arafangion: I have bin file. It is compiled. I need decode it
[08:24] <Arafangion> tarkowski: Tsk Tsk...
[08:24] <e-type> zeronenorez: %users  ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown
[08:25] <Arafangion> tulga: You have a binary file?
[08:25] <tulga> yes
[08:25] <Arafangion> tulga: Congrats - all files are binary.
[08:25] <e-type> zeronenorez: then all users from the group 'users' will be able to shutdown, other won't
[08:25] <PathagenX> Highlighting makes Xchat really useful.
[08:25] <tarkowski> ok, now that we've uncovered the shameful details of my behaviour, what's the path to victory?
[08:25] <zeronenorez> e-type, thx
[08:25] <e-type> zeronenorez: np
[08:25] <Arafangion> tarkowski: Reinstall the kernel.
[08:25] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, what kind of card?
[08:25] <DigitalStimulus> x1300
[08:26] <enkrav> Hello, how can I install gnome-desktop on a dapper ubuntu-server installation? (I don't use it as a server). apt-get install gnome-desktop didn't find it
[08:26] <Arafangion> tarkowski: apt-get install --reinstall foo
[08:26] <boogieman> Hello all, anybody got Ubuntu running on an Imate Jamin (PDA Phone) a.k.a HTC Prophet, Qtek S200 ?
[08:26] <Arafangion> boogieman: Why bother?
[08:26] <DigitalStimulus> ATI x1300, ubuntu dapper.  all of the different methods to get it working cause the same issue, i'm guessing that we have it setup properly, but something might be broken with the version of fglrx we're using
[08:27] <fokuslee> if i found out linux doesn't support sli on my graphics card where should i post it to?
[08:27] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, yes but what is the market name of your card?
[08:27] <tarkowski> and by foo you mean which packages?
[08:27] <Arafangion> tarkowski: By foo, I mean, the kernel you want to run.
[08:27] <e-type> enkrav: try gnome-desktop-environment ;)
[08:28] <Arafangion> tarkowski: Possibly install --reinstall the restricted modules again, as well.
[08:28] <boogieman> Arafangion: its on MS Mobile 5.0
[08:28] <DigitalStimulus> PathagenX: ATI Radeon X1300
[08:28] <Arafangion> boogieman: You are better off using a distro tuned for pda's.
[08:28] <Arafangion> boogieman: Ask #palm, they usually respond in a few hours.
[08:28] <boogieman> Afafangion: any recommendations ?
[08:29] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: what version of fglrx are you using?
[08:29] <Arafangion> boogieman: Some palm pda users may know of a good distro to investigate.
[08:29] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: whatever is in ubuntu dapper repository right now
[08:29] <redblades> Hi, I just tunred on my computer, and I found that my sound has stopped working.
[08:29] <Gevaudan82> boogieman: jack n the box is open 24 hours so post your question, grab a milkshake and wait for a response
[08:29] <DigitalStimulus> i'm not sure, i'm walking someone through it over the internet
[08:29] <boogieman> Afafangion: thanks ... i'll see
[08:29] <e-type> redblades: are volumes up and unmuted, speakers switched on?
[08:29] <redblades> Yep.
[08:29] <DigitalStimulus> but everything i've tried causes X to crash
[08:29] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: and I'm sorry, I missed the original problem... would you mind restating it?
[08:29] <PathagenX> Can't help you.
[08:29] <tarkowski> right, i understand that, but what's the name of the package? i was already told to reinstall restricted modules, kernel-image<version> and linux-386 (the complete latest kernel, according to synaptic) and it does not work - i was doing in each case sudo apt-get --reinstall install
[08:30] <boogieman> Gevaudan82: didn't follow you
[08:30] <e-type> redblades: any errors from sound applications?
[08:30] <redblades> The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[08:30] <boogieman> Gevaudan82: but i'll grab a milkshake nevertheless
[08:30] <PathagenX> ATIs are world famous for sucking worse in Linux than any other.
[08:30] <e-type> redblades: your sound device is not found
[08:30] <PathagenX> Their drivers suck and the installer sucks more
[08:30] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: tried manually editing xorg.conf and modprobe fglrx, tried doing the install directions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:30] <Arafangion> PathagenX: Indeed.
[08:30] <com4> i want to add a path to PATH for bash, but i can't figure out where that gets set system wide
[08:30] <DigitalStimulus> oops, sorry double paste
[08:30] <e-type> redblades: check '$ dmesg | less' for any messages about it, or some irq that's switched off
[08:30] <DigitalStimulus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:30] <com4> Which file do i edit to update PATH globally?
[08:31] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, get build-essential and install the Radeon Linux drivers
[08:31] <Gevaudan82> com4: /etc/profile.d
[08:31] <CromagDK> mornings
[08:31] <e-type> redblades: check that it shows up in '$ lspci' too
[08:31] <DigitalStimulus> PathagenX: yea, we were going to try that next, but i don't like ATI's way if i can avoid it
[08:31] <com4> Gevaudan82: i don't have that directory
[08:31] <Arafangion> com4: define "globally"
[08:31] <com4> Arafangion: system wide
[08:31] <Arafangion> com4: For every single user?
[08:31] <Gevaudan82> com4: err sorry that's for redhat distros...i can't remember of the top of my head for debian distros
[08:31] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, You know you can't.
[08:31] <com4> Arafangion: yes
[08:31] <PathagenX> DigitalStimulus, Your friend will just owe you big time.
[08:31] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: paste me the xorg.conf if you can, or at least the device and monitor parts...
[08:32] <Arafangion> com4: I don't think it's possible, unless you ensure that every users uses bash, and you configure /etc/profile
[08:32] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: the xorg.conf file isn't the problem, it's a default config with "vesa" changed to "fglrx"
[08:32] <com4> Arafangion: every user uses bash and there's no predefined PATH in /etc/profile
[08:32] <Arafangion> com4: Then define it.
[08:32] <Arafangion> com4: export PATH=foo;$PATH
[08:33] <Arafangion> com4: Use :, not ;, that was a typo.
[08:33] <com4> Arafangion: gotcha... just seems like it should already be there. this is comming from slackware/redhat usage though
[08:33] <e-type> Arafangion: don't most shells source /etc/profile.d/ ?
[08:33] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: stay far away from the current radeon drivers... they don't work under linux period... the repositories are the last version that works so far... you might attempt to use Omega drivers, but it's iffy...
[08:33] <Arafangion> e-type: Depends on configuration, that might even be better, actually.
[08:34] <Arafangion> com4: Investigate man bash, and /etc/profile.d
[08:34] <com4> Arafangion: usually the profile script will execute everything in /etc/profile.d :)
[08:34] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: it IS a problem with your xorg.conf... and I'll tell you why if you paste the monitor section to me.
[08:34] <com4> Arafangion: it would seem that's now how debian/ubuntu does it though
[08:34] <redblades> e-type, dmesg returned "[17179569.184000]  ACPI: FADT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3040
[08:34] <redblades> [17179569.184000]  ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000
[08:34] <redblades> "
[08:34] <chris86wm> after upgrading from Breezy to Dapper, xorg doesnt start and gives me an error. anyone know how to fix this?
[08:35] <Gevaudan82> ubuntu doesn't have /etc/profile.d...are you saying if you create it and add your files there like java.sh it would work?
[08:35] <Arafangion> chris86wm: And, pray, what is the error?
[08:35] <Losty81> Anyone here have any idea why I would be able to ping "www.google.com" etc from shell ....but no other net works?.....if I put in the actual ip address and eg. http://xxx.xxx.xxx I can get one page up.......something to do with dns?
[08:35] <hantoo> g'day. just switched to ubuntu, pretty happy with it. got a quick question, i installed fluxbox, but i get errors like 'bscreen:bscreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x23 depth 24' in xsession-error
[08:35] <hantoo> how's that?
[08:35] <com4> Arafangion: it also appearse that adding the PATH into /etc/profile doesn't work
[08:35] <chris86wm> something about xorg not being configured correctly
[08:35] <hantoo> Losty81: sounds like it
[08:35] <e-type> redblades: that's not really an interesting message
[08:35] <Losty81> cheers hantoo
[08:35] <e-type> redblades: does your card show up in lspci?
[08:35] <dragonriot> why would you install fluxbox in ubuntu?
[08:35] <hantoo> dragonriot: there's a law against it?
[08:36] <tarkowski> arafangion, sorry, can you point out to me which kernel packages you have in mind?
[08:36] <dragonriot> no, but why? =)
[08:36] <Losty81> i pinged my dns servers and ran the adsl modem tests...... net works every where but in linux
[08:36] <Arafangion> com4: afaik, most distros have a default .bashrc and .bash_profile in skel
[08:36] <hantoo> chris86wm: you were referring to my question?
[08:36] <redblades> e-type, well, a few VIA things do...
[08:36] <e-type> hantoo: why would you ask that?
[08:36] <Gevaudan82> Losty81: sounds like dns...google.com is probally being cached
[08:36] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: i don't have access to the xorg.conf, i'm walking someone through it (who is quite competent, but not knowledgeable), it's also not copy/paste-able since it's stuck in console mode
[08:36] <hantoo> dragonriot: shrug, like the lightweight
[08:36] <com4> Arafangion: debian does have that, and nevermind... i just made the same ;/: typo as you :D
[08:36] <chris86wm> hantoo, no
[08:36] <redblades> e-type, here it is: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 30)
[08:36] <com4> Arafangion: thanks
[08:36] <e-type> redblades: that's the one
[08:36] <hantoo> Losty81: i manually edited /etc/resolv.conf
[08:37] <e-type> redblades: right, so your soundcard is there. check if it's modules are loaded
[08:37] <Losty81> ???
[08:37] <Arafangion> tarkowski: Something like: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-25-686
[08:37] <redblades> e-type, how?
[08:37] <Arafangion> tarkowski: But use the exact same kernel as you are using, because you don't have a net connection.
[08:37] <e-type> redblades: '$ lsmod'
[08:37] <hantoo> so anyone got a clue bout the problem im having?
[08:37] <chris86wm> anyone?
[08:37] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: I highly recommend apt-get putty - but barring that, change the "fglrx" in the monitor section to "ati"... leave the device section set to "fglrx" and try that...
[08:37] <Arafangion> tarkowski: Instead, it'll use the apt-cache if you already have it
[08:37] <e-type> redblades: or even '$ lsmod | less' since it should be a long list
[08:37] <redblades> e-type, snd_ac97_codec         93088  1 snd_via82xx
[08:37] <redblades> snd_ac97_bus            2304  1 snd_ac97_codec
[08:37] <redblades>  ???
[08:38] <kaolti> hi
[08:38] <e-type> redblades: hm, those are the ones, yes
[08:38] <dragonriot> if he has multiple monitors, he'll need more configuring help than that...
[08:38] <kaolti> !ntfs
[08:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:38] <e-type> redblades: can root access the devices?
[08:38] <kaolti> !fuse
[08:38] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:38] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: nah, it's a plain jane setup
[08:38] <Losty81> no its not a cache thing cuz i can ping any address...from the shell....and get result from google when I http://xxx.xxx..xx whatever
[08:38] <redblades> e-type, ... how do you mean?
[08:39] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: ok, then that change should do the trick... oh, is it a CRT or LCD monitor?
[08:39] <e-type> redblades: do audio apps run as root? try '$ sudo alsamixer' for example
[08:39] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: not sure, he says it's flashing about 4 times then X crashes with signal 11
[08:40] <redblades> e-type, it certainly seems to...
[08:40] <chris86wm> when doing an upgrade, is it necessary to run "apt-get -f install"?
[08:40] <flasher> does anybody here use jpilot? i'm having a problem syncing.
[08:40] <chris86wm> i am thinking that is my problem
[08:40] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: this is a desktop right?
[08:40] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: going to try the "ati" driver, then see if setting some modes helps.
[08:41] <redblades> e-type, an application opened in Terminal when I ran alsamixer.
[08:41] <kkpi03> ffhhgj
[08:41] <e-type> redblades: so, running '$ alsamixer' as user gives the error of no devices, while running it as root using '$ sudo alsamixer' shows you your soundcard settings?
[08:41] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: only set 24 and 16 bit, 1024x768 and 1280x1024 for 4:3 monitor, 1440x900 for a widescreen...
[08:42] <DigitalStimulus> ATI driver is that picky?
[08:42] <Arafangion> DigitalStimulus: It's tantamount to dark magic.
[08:42] <DigitalStimulus> holy hell :)
[08:42] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: just telling you what worked for me when I was having similar problems... I imagine you know that stuff already.. =)
[08:42] <DigitalStimulus> yea, but my experience is only with nvidia, i'm well versed in xorg, just not with ati :0(
[08:42] <DigitalStimulus> ok, we'll try that
[08:43] <DigitalStimulus> "ati" driver is giving "no screens found" which is better than signal 11
[08:43] <redblades> e-type, exactly, oh, brb
[08:43] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: if the ati card is being detected as a mesa card, it will be jacked in the xorg.conf... and won't work even with these changes...
[08:44] <duckdown> What's the difference in the server ISO's from the desktop iso's?
[08:44] <duckdown> I want to use the machine as a server as well as a desktop
[08:45] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: no screens found is an error for a graphics card that doesn't have a monitor attached, or a card that doesn't have proper modes set up... those resolutions are so safe though it should theoretically work on anything...
[08:45] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: it's a CRT, by the way
[08:45] <Gevaudan82> duckdown: use the desktop distro and you'll be fine...the server distro starts with no GUI but gives you the option of LAMP which you probally don't need and want to configure yourself
[08:45] <DigitalStimulus> yea, we're setting modes now
[08:45] <duckdown> Gevaudan82> Thanks :)
[08:45] <DigitalStimulus> yea, no screens is much better than signal 11
[08:45] <morbid88> Hey guys. I ned some help with my wireless. I'm having some problems with ieee80211 and my ipw3945 driver.
[08:46] <Gevaudan82> duckdown: in my opinion i'd stay away from lamp...it's really not too bad to configure yourself...search "perfect install 6.06 howtoforge" on google
[08:46] <morbid88> lupine_85: you around?
[08:46] <DigitalStimulus> but that's with "ati"
[08:46] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: I had the same error on my desktop, and realized I had 2 graphics cards installed, but only one monitor attached... likely not the same issue, but worth asking him...
[08:46] <DigitalStimulus> i had him dump all the extraneous devices from the xorg.conf
[08:46] <DigitalStimulus> which aticonfig "automagic" put in
[08:46] <dragonriot> make sure he keeps keyboard and mouse. =)
[08:46] <duckdown> will do, thanks alot...  I want to try this XGL/Compiz deal
[08:47] <tarkowski> Arafangion, seemed to have worked it's magic, thanks
[08:47] <e-type> morbid88: define problem ;)
[08:47] <Gevaudan82> duckdown: i tried it on ubuntu using an nvidia quadra 550fx card...most of the effects worked but the globe never did...didn't really investigate any further than that
[08:48] <morbid88> e-type: well, I can't compile the ipw3945 drivers, and when I try to use modprobe I get reports of unknown symbols in ieee80211
[08:48] <duckdown> Gevaudan82: I've got a nice AMD64 3500+ and nvidia 7300 pci-express card... I'm hoping the AMD64 version of Ubuntu will install without a hitch
[08:48] <Healot> duckdown: there will be some problem, minor ones
[08:49] <Gevaudan82> duckdown: i had the globe working under suse but the menu bar (the thing with the min,max, close buttons) would not show up on any windows...seemed to be REALLY cutting edge so i'll wait till it stablizes
[08:49] <Healot> the rest is fine
[08:49] <morbid88> e-type: problem: I've still got to have a windows partition on my computer 'cos I can't use linux to connect to my wireless network.
[08:49] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: i hope this works, i've been fighting with it for the last couple hours :0)
[08:49] <dragonriot> hehe
[08:49] <duckdown> Gevaudan82: I had that same problem in suse, i couldn't close any windows and basically nothing worked
[08:49] <DigitalStimulus> i never thought ATI was such a pain :0)
[08:49] <DigitalStimulus> i've never even made the attempt
[08:49] <duckdown> Healot: what kind of problems do you think
[08:50] <dragonriot> oh yeah... ATI sucks... in fact, I have a guy waiting for me to send him working drivers for an X600 because he has the same issue...
[08:50] <Healot> duckdown: multimedia, especiall with Windows Media, some 32bit apps running the latest firefox for example
[08:51] <e-type> morbid88: hm, custom kernel troubles...
[08:51] <duckdown> Shoot
[08:51] <Gevaudan82> damn, these steve irwin commercials are getting me down...poor guy
[08:51] <e-type> morbid88: could be a lot of stuff, can't you use a stock kernel and module assistant for that driver?
[08:51] <duckdown> Healot: Should I just do 32-bit instead?  Or is that a waste of this 64-bit processor
[08:51] <e-type> morbid88: /me knows little of your specific driver though ;)
[08:51] <morbid88> e-type: I think I did. I tried apt-getting the whole kernel image.
[08:51] <Healot> but, the 32bit app is not a pain, just the proprietary stuff like WM
[08:52] <e-type> morbid88: so you're using a stock kernel and it freaks about the modules it installed itself?
[08:52] <morbid88> e-type: it's a driver that's been known to cause problems.
[08:52] <e-type> morbid88: that shouldn't happen
[08:52] <morbid88> tell me about it.
[08:52] <Healot> unless you're not going for those proprietary stuff, like WM, you're fine
[08:52] <lupine_85> e-type: it needs the version of ieee80211 that Dapper calls ieee80211_1_1_13
[08:53] <lupine_85> but it "depends: ieee80211"
[08:53] <duckdown> cool, thanks
[08:53] <e-type> lupine_85: didn't know
[08:53] <lupine_85> bit of a PITA ;)
[08:53] <morbid88> lupine_85: what's a PITA?
[08:53] <lupine_85> np, I've got no idea how to fix it either
[08:53] <e-type> morbid88: you'd need a complete custom kernel
[08:53] <lupine_85> PITA=nail in the buttocks
[08:53] <morbid88> aside from a middle-eastern yummy bread that goes great with hummus.
[08:53] <morbid88> hahahaha
[08:54] <e-type> wouldn't want to start spewing bullcrap :)
[08:54] <morbid88> I mean, I've got vmware running, and everything. I'm ready to dump the windows partition... just as soon as I can get wireless.
[08:55] <A-L-P-H-A> Can someone help with setting up my 3rd monitor.  I've got two monitors working, (xorg.conf file http://pastebin.ca/164044 ) but the third monitor is recieving a signal, but it's just a black screen (640x400x70Hz).  The setup is two NV5200 cards, one AGP, the other PCI.
[08:55] <lupine_85> well, by the looks of it 2.6.17.9 doesn't have the ipw3945 driver
[08:55] <lupine_85> ao we'd be at square one again...
[08:56] <lupine_85> ...I really don't know what Dutchy did differently, but I strongly suspect it's to do with the iee80211 module
[08:56] <e-type> morbid88: the unknown symbols might have some reasons: the kernel version might not like the newer ieee80211 symbols, it might be a different gcc version your kernel was compiled with
[08:56] <lupine_85> morbid88: did you try compiling ieee80211 from source?
[08:57] <morbid88> uh... i think I started out with that, yeh.
[08:58] <lupine_85> if you compile ieee80211 version 1.1.11 (the minimum required version) from source, you might have more lucky
[08:58] <lupine_85> luck*
[08:58] <morbid88> hmm. Good idea, let me try that
[09:00] <|thunder> somegeek, why isnt the new version of Gnome in my universe ?
[09:00] <|thunder> arg
[09:01] <|thunder> so , why isnt the new version of Gnome in my universe ?
[09:01] <Healot> it's in the main section?
[09:01] <holycow> !restricted
[09:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:01] <lazo> hello guys
[09:01] <lazo> can I ask a question?
[09:02] <Healot> just ask
[09:02] <lazo> thanks alot
[09:02] <lazo> I am new in Linux world and I installed Ubuntu
[09:02] <Healot> i know that :) I can sense that
[09:03] <lazo> my problem is every time I do update my ubuntu I get a new link in boot
[09:03] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: there is an onboard video as well apparently, i'm having him disable it in the bios
[09:04] <lazo> I do have also windows in the boot menu but rigt now I do have about 4 ubuntu in start boot
[09:04] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: current ubuntu repository fglrx version is 7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-3 by the way
[09:04] <lazo> how to delet them and have just one left in boot menu?
[09:05] <Arcad3> lazo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:05] <JoseStefan> lazo: that's normal and happens after kernel updates, it's usually not recommeded you remove them
[09:05] <Arcad3> am dlete the lines u dont need
[09:05] <lupine_85> erm, gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst :)
[09:05] <morbid88> lupine_82: I've tried compiling from er 1.1.11, but I'm not sure if I'm properly removing all the traces of the old one.
[09:05] <sid> "Some software from restricted will be installed on Ubuntu CDs but is clearly separated to ensure that it is easy to remove. We include this software because it is essential in order for Ubuntu to run on certain machines - typical examples are the binary drivers that some video card vendors publish, which are the only way for Ubuntu to run on those machines. By default, we will only use open source software unless there is simply no other way to install U
[09:05] <sid> buntu. The Ubuntu team works with such vendors to accelerate the open-sourcing of their software to ensure that as much software as possible is available under a Free licence."
[09:05] <Healot> unless you like to remove the older kernel, lazo
[09:05] <lupine_85> A safer way would be to uninstall the older linux-image packages
[09:05] <fokuslee> how do i find out the name of my kernel?
[09:06] <Healot> sid: what's with the excerpt?
[09:06] <JoseStefan> lazo: you got 3 options, remove the lines (keep the old kernel). [b]  remove the old kernel [c]  make the grub timer smaller so it doesnt bother you
[09:06] <Healot> fokuslee: uname -a
[09:06] <lazo> but after a while I am afraid I get many of them
[09:06] <sid> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components , under `"restricted" component`
[09:06] <lupine_85> morbid88: I tried it here and it asked me if I wanted to delete the old modules...
[09:06] <fokuslee> thx
[09:06] <fokuslee> healot
[09:06] <lupine_85> if unsure, delete the modules yourself
[09:06] <sid> What video cards only work with proprietary binary blobs?
[09:06] <lupine_85> you can always reinstall them later if you need to
[09:06] <JoseStefan> lazo: personally, i reduced the grub timer, and my system boots a few seconds faster too
[09:06] <fokuslee> Linux fokuslee-linux 2.6.17.11-custom #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 7 17:12:01 PDT 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:06] <morbid88> lupine_85: the file in /modules/2.6.../net/ieee80211?
[09:06] <lazo> well thats mean it is better to keep them all both old a new kernel
[09:06] <lupine_85> those, yes
[09:07] <fokuslee> so it should by linux 2.6.17.11-custom rite?
[09:07] <sid> I've installed GNU/Linux on dosens of machines, vesa seems to work great on every video card I've come across.
[09:07] <e-type> JoseStefan: how does your system boot faster?
[09:07] <lupine_85> until you want 3D acceleration ;)
[09:07] <e-type> or a non vesa mode :)
[09:07] <JoseStefan> e-type, lazo: i reduced the grub timer from 10s to 2s
[09:07] <lazo> I see
[09:07] <JoseStefan> e-type, lazo: unattended startup is 8s faster :P
[09:07] <kaolti> hi
[09:08] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:08] <kaolti> i have a problem running warcraft 3 with wine
[09:08] <e-type> JoseStefan: you just mean it doesn't wait for the 8 seconds I hope?
[09:08] <e-type> kaolti: #wine , good luck ;)
[09:08] <lazo> then I try to reduce the time :) thanks alot for the info guys
[09:08] <sid> lupine_85: But ubuntu.com says "By default, we will only use open source software unless there is simply no other way to install Ubuntu."
[09:08] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: that onboard graphics will cause all the problems you are having.... it loads the first interface as the main, and PCI before AGP before PCI-Express...
[09:08] <JoseStefan> e-type, lazo: it waits 8s less (unattened startups)
[09:08] <kaolti> thanks
[09:08] <e-type> kaolti: unless it's trivial of course
[09:09] <lupine_85> sid: true. And by default, it uses the vesa driver
[09:09] <JoseStefan> lazo: you can keep the old kernel and just remove the option, please note that further updates will add them 'all' again automatically
[09:09] <kaolti> e-type: well when i "wine War3.exe" i see a plain black screen then i have to log in again :(
[09:09] <sid> lupine_85 / Healot are there any video cards that don't allow Ubuntu to be installed unless a proprietary binary blob is used?
[09:09] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: there is no option to disable it, we set it to PCI-E as "primary video adapter"
[09:09] <sid> Maybe there is some weird card out there I've never seen/heard of.
[09:09] <lupine_85> sid: all video cards will work with VESA, so no
[09:09] <lupine_85> unless we're back in the days of MCA...
[09:09] <Healot> none? sid, the XOrg and XFree teams did quite a lot
[09:10] <sid> I mean Debian GNU/Linux uses all free software, and their installer has nothing non-free(libre) in it.
[09:10] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: still no screens found with "ati", i don't think the horzsync and vertrefresh are set though
[09:10] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: going to try that now
[09:10] <e-type> kaolti: mingle with your wine settings, but this is not a ubuntu problem
[09:10] <Lilandra> Help!
[09:10] <lazo> thats the exact thing happen..I removed them but after update they came up again
[09:10] <chris86wm> after upgrading from Breezy to Dapper, xorg doesnt start and gives me an error "failed to start the X server. Likely not setup correctly" . anyone know how to fix this?
[09:10] <morbid88> lupine_82: I've compiled ver. ieee80211.1.1.11 and now I can't even load that module.
[09:10] <JoseStefan> lazo: that's because that's waht the script is designed to do "add all installed kernels to the list"
[09:11] <e-type> chris86wm: is there no update available?
[09:11] <kaolti> e-type: ok well i thought it is because when i tried to change the resolution the same thing happened.i had to change in the conf file.
[09:11] <sid> lupine_85: You know who the web master is?
[09:11] <JoseStefan> lazo: one reason why i reduce the timer and forget about it
[09:11] <chris86wm> e-type, what do you mean?
[09:11] <JoseStefan> lazo: you can do a lot of tweaking, like 'hide' the menu
[09:11] <Lilandra> I just reinstalled ubuntu. After I tried logging in to gnome and it took forever I switched to another screen (ctrl+alt+f1) and logged in and then I got a whole lot of junk! SO i rebooted (recovery mode) and then launched gdm. When I logged into gnome again...I got to error messages
[09:11] <lupine_85> sid: no idea what you mean
[09:11] <lupine_85> morbid88: any error messages?
[09:12] <e-type> chris86wm: login, update apt-get and check for an update, there's been a bad package some time ago, maybe you're in bad luck
[09:12] <lazo> but I need the menu cause sometime I am on Windows
[09:12] <e-type> chris86wm: if that's not the one we can start looking ;)
[09:12] <brendonjt> how do i remove a directory that is not empty under root user?
[09:12] <JoseStefan> lazo: maybe timer reduction would be better ovarall
[09:12] <chris86wm> e-type thats not it
[09:12] <chris86wm> that issue has been fixed
[09:12] <e-type> chris86wm: what's the error
[09:12] <e-type> Lilandra: what's the error?
[09:12] <lazo> I think so too :)
[09:12] <morbid88> lupine_85: error inserting.... ieee80211.ko  -1 unknown symbol in module.
[09:12] <Lilandra> "Internal Error: failed to initialize HAL" and "Power Manager: This program cannot start until you start the dbus system service. It is strongly reocmmended you reboot your comptuer after starting messagebus"
[09:12] <JoseStefan> lazo: or you can remove the kernels you dont use, after you are 100% sure you wont need em
[09:12] <chris86wm> e-type something about x not being configured correctly
[09:13] <lupine_85> are you using modprobe? and did you depmod -a?
[09:13] <Lilandra> e-type: "Internal Error: failed to initialize HAL" and "Power Manager: This program cannot start until you start the dbus system service. It is strongly reocmmended you reboot your comptuer after starting messagebus"
[09:13] <lupine_85> if using insmod, you need ieee80211_crypt first
[09:13] <morbid88> ah. no, I didn't.
[09:13] <morbid88> ah.
[09:13] <morbid88> okay, that's what I was trying to do.
[09:13] <e-type> chris86wm: more detail or paste the error in a pastebin
[09:13] <Lilandra> How do I restart messagebus? and what's HAL for?
[09:13] <JoseStefan> lazo: always keep the default one, the one on 'dapper' repos
[09:13] <kaolti> e-type: the wine channel is on freenode?
[09:13] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: I would check and double check the hsync numbers on the monitor manufacturer's website or the manual, I found numbers for one of my monitors and they were completely out of sync
[09:13] <chris86wm> e-type I cant paste it, because i cant boot into my gui
[09:14] <morbid88> there we go, thanks :-) now to try ipw
[09:14] <e-type> chris86wm: find a line starting with EE, that's a fatal error
[09:14] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: i don't think they're even specified, i'll see what i can find though
[09:14] <lazo> yes
[09:14] <brendonjt> how do i remove a directory that is not empty under root user?
[09:14] <JoseStefan> lazo: by that i mean, if the list goes up to 3 distinct kernels. you can 'usually' uninstall the middle one
[09:14] <kaolti> e-type: nvm i got it
[09:14] <lazo> and how do that?
[09:14] <e-type> Lilandra: maybe rescue mode doesn't start dbus, try rebooting, that will be easiest
[09:14] <JoseStefan> lazo: synaptic can do it
[09:14] <lupine_85> brendonjt: sudo rm -r will do it
[09:15] <lupine_85> but be careful :)
[09:15] <lazo> is it a program?
[09:15] <lazo> or just a comand?
[09:15] <Lilandra> ok
[09:15] <JoseStefan> lazo: synaptic package manager, under the admin stuff
[09:15] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: I don't think they need to be... on my laptop, I just have Option "DPMS" and nothing else in the monitor section.
[09:15] <morbid88> AAaargggh
[09:15] <dragonriot> but that's an LCD
[09:15] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: on my LCD monitor, it dies if it's not specified
[09:15] <morbid88> lupine_85: ipw3945 compiles now, but won't install.
[09:15] <JoseStefan> lazo: i suggest you always keep at least 2, the 'newest' one, and the 'default' one
[09:15] <DigitalStimulus> he has a CRT though
[09:16] <DigitalStimulus> or goes out of range, i forget
[09:16] <lupine_85> same error?
[09:16] <DigitalStimulus> i just know I *have* to specify it on my monitor
[09:16] <brendonjt> thank you lupine_85
[09:16] <morbid88> yep, still a conflict with ieee80211.
[09:16] <kaolti> e-type: 118 ppl in #winehq and none answer :|
[09:16] <lupine_85> conflict? or missing symbols?
[09:16] <lazo> I am in Synaptic now but dont know where to edit those boot stuff
[09:16] <morbid88> missing symbols
[09:17] <kaolti> e-type: can this be related to the VESA driver?
[09:17] <morbid88> and a "disagree about version".
[09:17] <e-type> kaolti: you'll have to be patient, and google might be a good help
[09:17] <e-type> kaolti: are you running X with vesa driver?
[09:17] <Lilandra> e-type: i rebooted and ubuntu/gnome is frozen
[09:17] <JoseStefan> lazo: synaptic will remove the kernel you no longer want, after removing it, it automatically updates the grub menu
[09:17] <lupine_85> humm
[09:17] <lupine_85> I'm running out of ideas :/
[09:17] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: what does the "Server Section" look like in his xorg.conf?
[09:17] <JoseStefan> lazo: but i suggest you always keep at least 2 kernels like i said before
[09:18] <lazo> ok
[09:18] <DigitalStimulus> dragonriot: not sure, i may end up having him just install openssh-server and hacking at it
[09:18] <tRSS> my dns server is unable to resolve any addresses? dig/nslookup also time out. i can ping ip addresses but not urls
[09:18] <lazo> well thank you very much for your time and advice
[09:18] <lupine_85> I suppose you could always just "borrow" a tarball of Dutchy's /lib :)
[09:18] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: he should have something like                      Screen         0 "Generic Monitor"
[09:18] <lazo> I do really appreciate it
[09:18] <Lilandra> help?
[09:18] <JoseStefan> lazo: np
[09:18] <e-type> Lilandra: "ubuntu" can't freeze, it's no application... probably some gnome component froze on you. did gdm start?
[09:19] <tRSS> what might be problem here?
[09:19] <Lilandra> right that's why i said ubuntu/gnome
[09:19] <lazo> I was a windows user but I do really wana be a Linux user from now on
[09:19] <Lilandra> yes
[09:19] <Lilandra> e-type yes it started
[09:19] <e-type> tRSS: set your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:19] <JoseStefan> lazo: i have 4 kernels :/
[09:20] <lazo> I do have the same right now
[09:20] <morbid88> lupine_85: may that would work.
[09:20] <e-type> Lilandra: try to login from console
[09:20] <tRSS> e-type: i am talking about bind here.
[09:20] <Lilandra> e-type: how do i boot to console from grub (and not recovery mode)
[09:21] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: I have 6 :)
[09:21] <tRSS> e-type: it seems it is unable to resolve/connect to the root servers
[09:21] <e-type> Lilandra: ctrl+alt+f1-f6
[09:21] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, i 'had' six
[09:21] <Lilandra> e-type: as i said, it (whatever it is) is frozen so i can't do that
[09:21] <lupine_85> :)
[09:21] <lupine_85> I keep them all for safe keeping
[09:22] <dragonriot> DigitalStimulus: on your last, that's probably a good idea... better idea is to make a "support account" for you so you can log in and watch what he does through 'screen -x'
[09:22] <lupine_85> good for building modules against, as well
[09:22] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, i removed the middle guy
[09:22] <DigitalStimulus> yea, it'd definitely be a screen session
[09:22] <e-type> Lilandra: if even ctrl+alt+backspace fails you'll have to reboot and not login but go to console using ctrl+alt+f1
[09:23] <Lilandra> well but quickly...
[09:23] <e-type> tRSS: sorry, don't know about bind at all
[09:24] <tRSS> e-type: no problem, may be someone else can help me
[09:24] <Lilandra> e-type: can i add an entry in grub to boot to console?
[09:24] <e-type> tRSS: I'd go to another channel for real trouble ;)
[09:24] <tRSS> e-type: e.g.?
[09:24] <lupine_85> Lilandra: single mode? or multi-user console?
[09:25] <iceman> anyone used the Kororaa Live CD that boots glx on a live cd
[09:25] <morbid88> lupine_85: thanks agian, I'm going to keep scouring the forums.
[09:25] <Lilandra> lupine_85: i think multi
[09:25] <e-type> Lilandra: if there's a 5 in the boot line, replace it with 3, if not, just add 3
[09:25] <lupine_85> e-type: default is 2
[09:25] <infidel> how can i change the port for my network printer
[09:25] <lupine_85> Lilandra: you need to modify a runlevel so that it doesn't load gdm/kdm, then do what e-type said to boot into that runlevel
[09:26] <e-type> Lilandra: listen to lupine_85 ;)
[09:26] <lupine_85> seems like in Ubuntu, runlevels 2-5 are identical
[09:26] <lupine_85> which sort of misses the point... ;)
[09:26] <e-type> indeed
[09:26] <Lilandra> lupine_85, e-type: i don't see the 5 and stuff so i'll hope i can be quick enough to switch and that even if gnome freezes if i've switched it won't freeze
[09:26] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, it would be great if ubuntu made use of more runlevels
[09:27] <vbhanu> Please suggest some commanline tool for editing mp3 tags
[09:27] <iceman> Got to try KORORAA to see the hype of glx before i even try to install it ..
[09:28] <lupine_85> vbhanu: "apt-cache search mp3 |grep id3" gives some options
[09:28] <lupine_85> !eyed3
[09:28] <ubotu> eyed3: Display and manipulate id3-tags on the command-line. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.8-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:28] <e-type> vbhanu: you've not described any problem that wouldn't work with easytag. to switch title - author file naming I'd get the tags filled up correctly and then rename the files
[09:28] <Lilandra> should i kill gdm before it does stuff?
[09:28] <e-type> vbhanu: this is all batch stuff with easytag
[09:29] <lupine_85> !mp3rename
[09:29] <ubotu> mp3rename: Rename mp3 files based on id3tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-9 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:29] <lupine_85> mmm... command line :)
[09:29] <Schalken> does anyone know where rhythmbox's song ratings are kept?
[09:29] <Lilandra> lupine_85, e-type: should i kill gdm? so it doesn't do wackiness?
[09:29] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:30] <e-type> Lilandra: it should not do anything wrong actually...
[09:30] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: killing it will just make it restart
[09:30] <e-type> JoseStefan: there's no console
[09:30] <lupine_85> Lilandra: to get a runlevel without gdm, remove the relevant symlink in /etc/rc?.d
[09:30] <Lilandra> josestefan, e-type: well i login at console and if i'm lluckh i can do stuff, if not...well...it logs me out
[09:30] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, better to rename the symlink
[09:30] <lupine_85> ? = the runlevel (not '2') that you want to set up as non-GUI
[09:31] <Lilandra> ok rebooting into recovery mode
[09:31] <iceman24k> well ok, somewhat impressive xgl humm
[09:31] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, changing the S to a K, will 'disable' it
[09:31] <AbortD_> lupine_85: do you play halo by any chance?
[09:31] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: there are 3 other runlevels with the required symlink... so that's a load of backups already :)
[09:31] <lupine_85> AbortD_: no :)
[09:31] <AbortD_> lupine_85: i kept getting killed by a guy named lupine_85
[09:31] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, updates to gdm might detect a 'missing' link and add it. not if it has a 'K'
[09:31] <lupine_85> not me :)
[09:32] <Lilandra> ok, i'm at recovery mode/root cli
[09:32] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, and it's easier to undo
[09:32] <Lilandra> what now?
[09:32] <lupine_85> must've been someone stealing my uber-great namwe
[09:32] <kaolti> e-type: seems like i have to install drivers for my chipset
[09:32] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: but then won't it run gdm stop on shutdown?
[09:32] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, no
[09:32] <lupine_85> (not that it's a huge issue, but it grates slightly)
[09:32] <Lilandra> im confused abt all the previous instructions...which to do!
[09:33] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, it will run stop on startup actually, which will do nothing, other than make sure it's not started
[09:33] <iceman24k> anyone installed glx, how hard is a install
[09:33] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, i just know if it's 'there' updates will just add it again
[09:33] <JoseStefan> err
[09:33] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, 'not there'
[09:34] <lupine_85> Lilandra: do what JoseStefan said - e.g. "sudo mv S99gdm K99gdm"
[09:34] <Lilandra> lupine_85, JoseStefan: which symlink should i rename or delete? and what would that do?
[09:34] <lupine_85> untidy in my eyes, but I'll defer :)
[09:34] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, are you in: rc2.d ?
[09:34] <Lilandra> not yet
[09:34] <Lilandra> now i am JoseStefan
[09:35] <lupine_85> erm, you probably don't want to edit rc2.d
[09:35] <lupine_85> that's the default runlevel
[09:35] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: first check the filename for the gdm simlink (the number may vary)
[09:35] <Lilandra> what filename?
[09:35] <lupine_85> unless you want the default to be without GUI
[09:35] <Lilandra> S13gdm?
[09:35] <Lilandra> well i can't seem to login with the gui
[09:35] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: ok, rename it to K13gdm
[09:35] <iceman> ok, XGL is somewhat nice eye candy, and could prove useful.
[09:36] <Lilandra> and i did install the server only and then...tried to isntall gdm and craziness ensued
[09:36] <lupine_85> ok, it's rc2.d that you want then :)
[09:36] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, lupine_85: this may very well be temporary anyways
[09:36] <Lilandra> ok JoseStefan
[09:36] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, lupine_85: that's why i like the rename too
[09:36] <Lilandra> so we don't lose it!
[09:36] <Lilandra> now what?
[09:36] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: done. next time you start the system, gdm wont start
[09:37] <iceman24k> ok, time to study xgl.
[09:37] <Lilandra> ok but...how do i get around to fixing the problems with gdm? (i assume it's gdm)
[09:37] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: you can manually start it by going to init 3, OR by using: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:37] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: ah, thats another subject
[09:38] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: it shouldn't be hard locking your system
[09:38] <lupine_85> once you're logged in as user, you can start x(GNOME) without the graphical login by running, erm, startx
[09:38] <JoseStefan> hmm
[09:38] <Lilandra> what does bad swap offset entry mean? should i be worried?
[09:39] <lupine_85> if that crashes, then you know it's a general problem, not just gdm
[09:39] <Lilandra> seg fault
[09:39] <Lilandra> for startx
[09:39] <lupine_85> Lilandra: how much RAM do you have?
[09:39] <Lilandra> 1gb
[09:39] <lupine_85> ok
[09:39] <lupine_85> run "sudo swapoff"
[09:39] <lupine_85> then try startx
[09:40] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: you might want to run a RAM test overnight too
[09:40] <lupine_85> (that turns off your swap)
[09:40] <crashd> hum, i ran through the ffox32 on a64 scripts, but i cant find out where the ff32 is nstalled too _
[09:40] <kaolti> e-type: i downloaded the driver and when i ./autogen.sh it gives me: line 9: autoreconf: command not found
[09:40] <Lilandra> errr...needs argument
[09:40] <lupine_85> gotta love linux commands :)
[09:40] <crashd> any ideas?
[09:40] <Lilandra> i did run a ram test when i first installed it
[09:40] <lupine_85> ah, swapoff /dev/(swap partition)
[09:40] <DigitalStimulus> haha this is great
[09:40] <lupine_85> swap partition is "probably" /dev/hda2
[09:40] <Losty1981> Hi my name is Nick. I'm having some peculiar problems with internet. I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to lend me a helping mind.
[09:40] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, fstab can tell you which one it is
[09:41] <kaolti> e-type: cant find anything about autoreconf :(
[09:41] <e-type> kaolti: install build-essential
[09:41] <Lilandra> seg fault
[09:41] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, on what cmd?
[09:41] <e-type> kaolti: autoreconf is part of autoconf package
[09:41] <Lilandra> sudo swapoff /dev/sda5
[09:41] <e-type> Losty1981: just ask
[09:42] <lupine_85> and that segfaults too?
[09:42] <lupine_85> not good...
[09:42] <Lilandra> well when i did startx it gave me loads of feedback...well a screen/4 lines...this just says seg fault
[09:42] <kaolti> e-type: yea,im getting it now with synaptic
[09:42] <JoseStefan> lupine_85: "But what does it all mean Basil?"
[09:42] <e-type> :)
[09:43] <lupine_85> I'm starting to think you might have errors on your swap partition, in such a way that swapping to/from it would cause a segfault
[09:43] <lupine_85> e.g. the data isn't available, or something
[09:43] <Losty1981> I have a peculair ability to ping anything from the shell.....and by using ping...I can find the xxx.xxx.xxx I.P address of the site. I can then use http://xxx.xxx.xx to access google (for eg)
[09:43] <Losty1981> but other than that no net works
[09:43] <Lilandra> hmm so reinstall?
[09:43] <lupine_85> it could also be a more general FS or RAM problem
[09:43] <crashd> anyone? firefox on x64 is flaky as hell
[09:43] <lupine_85> hard to debug, really
[09:44] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, aren't swap partitions raw enough for restarts to fix them?
[09:44] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: I was thinking more hardware fault
[09:44] <Lilandra> and now it's giving me lots of weird screens...crash logs? i dunno
[09:44] <Lilandra> FS?
[09:44] <lupine_85> that or a bad kernel module somewhere
[09:44] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, i did mention the ram test
[09:44] <lupine_85> "filesystem"
[09:44] <Lilandra> ah!! :)
[09:44] <lupine_85> true
[09:44] <e-type> Losty1981: so, from the shell you can ping any url, but other applications can only access ip numbers?
[09:44] <Losty1981> i can use firefox to access sites only if I know there ip address .... and it doesn't call to any stringed urls
[09:45] <Losty1981> yeah basically
[09:45] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, consider multiple passes, hence the "overnight" suggestion
[09:45] <Lilandra> it did two passes i think
[09:45] <lupine_85> Losty1981: DNS is broken?
[09:45] <Lilandra> *sigh*
[09:45] <Losty1981> i was thinking that
[09:45] <lupine_85> add "nameserver <dns server ip address> to /etc/resolv.cong
[09:45] <Losty1981> I cant seem to change it
[09:45] <lupine_85> erm, resolv.conf
[09:45] <Losty1981> how can I edit that?
[09:45] <Losty1981> its in the /etc ? yeah?
[09:45] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, will removing the swap from fstab help?
[09:45] <Lilandra> lots of strange things running on my screen
[09:45] <Losty1981> i cant get permission
[09:45] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: it could do, yes
[09:45] <Losty1981> i tried chmod u+w
[09:46] <Losty1981> im pretty new to linux sorry
[09:46] <lupine_85> Losty1981: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[09:46] <Losty1981> ahk ill try that
[09:46] <Losty1981> tahnk fuck for my ,mates laptop
[09:46] <Lilandra> josestefan, lupine_85: how is it when i installed knoppix to my harddrive it didn't gibve me problems. if it were ram wouldn't it affect whatever distro i was using?
[09:46] <lupine_85> ctrl+o <return> then ctrl + x will save and exit
[09:46] <Losty1981> i dont have to reboot in and out of windows all the time
[09:46] <Losty1981> net works fine for all other comps by the way
[09:46] <e-type> Losty1981: if ping does find dns servers, then you have another problem
[09:46] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, it should yes. I dont think it's ram, anymore
[09:46] <Losty1981> yeah its wierd
[09:47] <lupine_85> Lilandra: true enough. So the theory goes to the kernel
[09:47] <lupine_85> Losty1981: are you using DHCP?
[09:47] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, but i dont know the solution yet
[09:47] <e-type> Losty1981: ping resolves url's okay?
[09:47] <DBO> Losty1981, watch your language please
[09:47] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, we could temporarily blame it on the swap partition and disable it
[09:47] <Lilandra> josestefan, lupine_85, so are my system specs important? maybei should just get regular i386 ubuntu
[09:47] <Lilandra> ok...
[09:47] <Lilandra> maybe i setup my partitions badly?
[09:48] <lupine_85> Lilandra: that's a possibility
[09:48] <lupine_85> general faults like this could be down to so many different things
[09:48] <Lilandra> i hope the hdd's not bad...*eep*
[09:48] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, can you put your fstab on the !pastebin
[09:48] <lupine_85> (in my other PC)
[09:48] <gautam> hi room
[09:48] <JoseStefan> lupine_85: dont get a maxtor drive
[09:48] <Lilandra> josestefan: not anymore..it's all sorta frozen
[09:48] <gautam> i need some help
[09:48] <gautam> any1 there?
[09:48] <lupine_85> hehe, of course no :)
[09:48] <Lilandra> i would need to reboot...hold on
[09:48] <lupine_85> !ask
[09:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: it froze in CLI ?
[09:49] <gautam> i need help on vsftpd
[09:49] <gautam> i want it to show a banner message
[09:49] <lupine_85> never used it, sorry
[09:49] <gautam> any has any ideas?
[09:49] <lupine_85> but that sort of thing is usually in motd
[09:49] <Lilandra> well sorta. it just started running all these things on my screen...like errors. and i couldn't type anything
[09:49] <lupine_85> where that would be in vsftp would be anothr matter
[09:49] <gautam> motd?
[09:49] <lupine_85> Lilandra: sounds like a kernel panic
[09:49] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, you know about the maxtor drives?
[09:50] <lupine_85> "message of the day"
[09:50] <Losty1981> lupine: yes I'm using DHCP....??
[09:50] <kintaro0e> hey guys..how to compile my kernel manually?
[09:50] <Lilandra> yeah! but what causes kernel panic?
[09:50] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: I know about Maxtor... that's enough :)
[09:50] <kintaro0e> is ther a guide on this on ubuntu website?
[09:50] <lupine_85> Lilandra: lots of things :(
[09:50] <gautam> Lilandra:  major genreal
[09:50] <gautam> lol
[09:50] <JoseStefan> !tell kintaro0e about kernel
[09:50] <RMorris85> what is the best usb tv tuner card to get for ubuntu?
[09:50] <Lilandra> kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
[09:50] <JoseStefan> season finales cause major kernel panics
[09:50] <lupine_85> Ah... it's an interrupt problem
[09:50] <tulga> most powerful binary decoder?
[09:50] <gautam> so no idea guys?
[09:51] <Lilandra> lupine_85: *sigh* interrupt problem, meaning?
[09:51] <lupine_85> gautam: you could try dpkg -L <package> to see if it lists any files with motd mentioned
[09:51] <kintaro0e> JoseStefan: thanks
[09:51] <lupine_85> Lilandra: hardware conflict
[09:51] <gautam> lupine_85:  i did some searching
[09:51] <lupine_85> do you have more than one CPU?
[09:51] <gautam> even on google
[09:51] <Lilandra> argh!!! :(
[09:51] <kaolti> e-type: it turns out that my chipset doesnt have a decent driver for ubuntu and even i had one,wine only works good with ATI and nVidia cards.:(
[09:51] <gautam> found some good docs
[09:51] <Lilandra> lupine_85: me?
[09:51] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, you could try the livecd, to see if the same things happen
[09:52] <gautam> no help :(
[09:52] <lupine_85> Lilandra: yes
[09:52] <Lilandra> yes! i could...must download it...
[09:52] <gautam> btw hi Lilandra
[09:52] <Lilandra> lupine_85: no just the one
[09:52] <Lilandra> hi gautam
[09:52] <gautam> hi lupine_85
[09:52] <Lilandra> i do have the server cd too
[09:52] <Lilandra> as opposed to this, the alternate cd
[09:52] <lupine_85> ok, there's a kernel loading option to help when you have IRQ conflicts
[09:52] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, what kernel are you using? what CPU?
[09:53] <Lilandra> linux-amd64-generic
[09:53] <Lilandra> cpu - athlon 64 3400+
[09:53] <lupine_85> I think we've narrowed it down to a bad kernel module/hardware configuration
[09:53] <gautam> anyway later guys
[09:53] <gautam> tc
[09:53] <gautam> ty all
[09:53] <Lilandra> bye gautam
[09:53] <Lilandra> bad hardware config?
[09:53] <gautam> bye
[09:54] <gautam> y sobs?
[09:54] <lupine_85> since it mostly happens with X, it's likely to be your graphics card
[09:54] <lupine_85> try booting with acpi=noirq on the grub command line
[09:54] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, do you have any weird hardware?
[09:54] <Lilandra> um
[09:54] <Lilandra> an old agp card?
[09:54] <Lilandra> a wireless pci card
[09:54] <DigitalStimulus> ssh is installed, `adduser support`, `passwd support` password is set, it has a login shell in /etc/passwd, but can't connect via ssh, did i miss something?
[09:54] <gautam> oh well
[09:54] <Losty1981> Still no luck!
[09:55] <lupine_85> (when it says booting grub, hit Escape then press 'e' on a kernel boot line. add 'acpi=noirq' to the end of the text, hit enter, then hit enter again)
[09:55] <lupine_85> if that works, we can add it permanently
[09:55] <gautam> DigitalStimulus:  is sshd running?
[09:55] <DigitalStimulus> gautam: yes, i'm receiving a key and password prompt
[09:55] <redblades> Hi, e-type?
[09:55] <gautam> DigitalStimulus:  accept it
[09:55] <gautam> type password
[09:55] <DigitalStimulus> gautam: of course, maybe the password was typo'd
[09:55] <JoseStefan> lupine_85, you are thinking out loud
[09:56] <gwilma> Hello all. Does anyone know of a gnome program to display the output from the command line/content of text files on the desktop?
[09:56] <lupine_85> indeed
[09:56] <DigitalStimulus> on the server end
[09:56] <redblades> e-type, I just remembered that it was just that I'd somehow been removed from the audio group in /etc/group
[09:56] <gautam> gwilma: u can pipe it
[09:57] <e-type> redblades: hence why root user has access, and plain users don't
[09:57] <gautam> DigitalStimulus:  well then chk firewall and password
[09:57] <Lilandra> josestefan, lupine_85: ok...modified boot, am logged into console...
[09:58] <lupine_85> ok, and how is it going?
[09:58] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, i guess now you try to make it crash :/
[09:58] <lupine_85> try startx again
[09:58] <Lilandra> startx? :)
[09:58] <lupine_85> :)
[09:58] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, OR sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:59] <Lilandra> errr
[09:59] <lupine_85> no point if she's already logged in...
[09:59] <Losty1981> sweet!!
[09:59] <lupine_85> crashed again?
[09:59] <Losty1981> it works
[09:59] <Lilandra> startx launched a black screen...cursur not blinking
[09:59] <Lilandra> i guess...err...frozen?
[09:59] <RMorris85> anyone have experience with a usb tv tuner?
[09:59] <lupine_85> Lilandra: hit ctrl+alt+KP_bkspace
[09:59] <Lilandra> kp?
[09:59] <lupine_85> keypad
[10:00] <lupine_85> erm, no. just backspace, sorry
[10:00] <JoseStefan> there is no backspace on KP
[10:00] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:00] <lupine_85> just noticed that :)
[10:00] <Lilandra> :)
[10:00] <Lilandra> nothing
[10:00] <lupine_85> ok, ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[10:00] <Lilandra> noo
[10:00] <JoseStefan> ctrl+c ?
[10:00] <lupine_85> then the kernel has panicked again
[10:01] <Lilandra> nope
[10:01] <lupine_85> presumably the graphics card and the wireless are sharing the same interrupt
[10:01] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: ctrl+give+kernel+a+chill+pill
[10:01] <Lilandra> how about giving it a bathroom break?
[10:01] <lupine_85> the kernel can't deal with that properly, so is crashing
[10:01] <gwilma> gautam: so if I've got a todo.txt file, is there a way to show it in the background/ in a section of the desktop?
[10:01] <Lilandra> i need chcoolate
[10:01] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: sorry about that :)
[10:01] <lupine_85> can you disable the graphics card interrupt in the BIOS ?
[10:02] <Lilandra> yes...all my crushed hopes to put ubuntu on my computer
[10:02] <Lilandra> well
[10:02] <Lilandra> i can take out the graphics card
[10:02] <Lilandra> and use the onboard card
[10:02] <lupine_85> not quite the same thing ;)
[10:02] <JoseStefan> Lilandra: i suggest the livecd
[10:02] <Lilandra> ok
[10:02] <Losty1981> thanks heaps guys
[10:02] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: it's the same kernel?
[10:02] <Losty1981> success
[10:02] <Losty1981> ciao
[10:02] <Lilandra> josestefan: well that'll take me a day or so! :)
[10:02] <JoseStefan> lupine_85: should be, unless hers is updated
[10:03] <brendonjt> kia ora all i am in need of some help, with a program under wine
[10:03] <Lilandra> josestefan: does xubuntu use the same kernel?
[10:03] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, i believe so
[10:03] <lupine_85> yes, it does
[10:03] <Lilandra> sigh...ok....
[10:03] <Lilandra> i was downloading that to install but going to get livecd
[10:03] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, the livecd can narrow a couple of things down
[10:03] <lupine_85> I suppose if you get the same problem on livecd, it rules out hardware failure
[10:04] <lupine_85> definitely looks like an interrupt conflict to me, though... I just wish I could remember the various ways to fix it
[10:04] <JoseStefan> rules out?
[10:04] <Lilandra> i wish i ever knew! :)
[10:05] <Lilandra> well this should take me a good few hours...
[10:05] <iceman> !xgl
[10:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:06] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, is the system unstable in "CLI only" ?
[10:06] <lupine_85> this is so 1995!
[10:06] <lupine_85> i.e., if it works, then it's not the kernel
[10:06] <lupine_85> or the RAM
[10:06] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, or only when starting x?
[10:06] <Lilandra> um, it crashed gnome
[10:06] <Lilandra> or froze gnome
[10:07] <Lilandra> 1995 ... did i even know about Linux then
[10:07] <nikin> hy does anyone know any godd program to minimize the energy usage on my laptop durning running on battery? i just use it for some text editing and so, so i dont need much power, but need the maximum battery time
[10:07] <Lilandra> errr...no gui?
[10:07] <JoseStefan> i think he means the IRQ issues
[10:07] <Lilandra> i shall return!
[10:08] <e-type> nikin: cpu frequency applet
[10:08] <lupine_85> IRQ problems aren't meant to happen any more :D
[10:08] <lupine_85> good luck with it
[10:08] <e-type> nikin: power off wifi card, turn lcd brightness down
[10:08] <lupine_85> you might want to try www.ubuntuforums.org as well
[10:08] <JoseStefan> they did back in 95
[10:08] <lupine_85> someone else might have had the same problem
[10:08] <lupine_85> JoseStefan: gotta love ISA...
[10:08] <nikin> e-type i have done it all :D
[10:08] <nikin> but i need more
[10:09] <lupine_85> even in 2000... getting your modem + sound card working together was a major achievement
[10:09] <JoseStefan> lupine_85: ISA, by itself was not bad. It was Plug'N'Pray that caused the nightmare
[10:09] <nikin> and turning down brigthness is not good, coz i have to see the screen
[10:09] <e-type> nikin: switch of drives, buy more batteries/solar panel/rat-in-a-wheel/...
[10:09] <lupine_85> nostalgia--
[10:09] <kintaro0e> hi guys need advice..i want to add a PATH variable on my shell..i'm confused where should i put it..will i dont want to put it in the /etc/profile because its global..so i was thinking of .bashrc or .bash_profiles..which one should i place it?
[10:09] <JoseStefan> old school modems were cool
[10:09] <nikin> e-type. how can i wich off drives?
[10:10] <lupine_85> kintaro0e: .bashrc
[10:10] <e-type> nikin: hdparm, but be carefull with that ;)
[10:10] <JoseStefan> "real modems"
[10:10] <boris> hi i just got ubuntu
[10:10] <lupine_85> PATH=additional:$PATH
[10:10] <lupine_85> hehe
[10:10] <boris> and I need something fun to do with it
[10:10] <nikin> e-type: hdparm is evil :D but maybe i will try
[10:10] <e-type> kintaro0e: path should be in .bash_profile , strictly speaking
[10:10] <e-type> nikin: hdparm is evil in the wrong hands only :p
[10:11] <JoseStefan> boris, you can try hacking into my server, i give you permission
[10:11] <kintaro0e> lupine_85: so whats the difference with .bashrc and .bash_profile, e-type lupine_85?
[10:11] <e-type> kintaro0e: non shell logins might need it too
[10:11] <it21> hi  @ all
[10:11] <nikin> e-type: maybe my hands are wrong, i ame not a hardware specific guy
[10:11] <e-type> kintaro0e: in practice there's very little difference for most uses
[10:11] <Lilandra> what is IRQ again?
[10:11] <boris> JoseStefan: lol dunno how........ also how do I get it to run in Developer Mode?
[10:11] <JoseStefan> boris: just kidding
[10:11] <lupine_85> interrupt request
[10:11] <lupine_85> IIRC
[10:11] <brendonjt> Intruppt Request Address
[10:11] <it21> does anybody play world of warcraft?
[10:11] <nikin> boris: make WPA running, and make a good howto :D
[10:11] <lupine_85> surely that's an IRQ address?
[10:12] <boris> I want my ubuntu to have its terminal open 24/7 spewing out what it is doing at all times.
[10:12] <JoseStefan> IRQ = Interrupt ReQuest
[10:12] <boris> How would I do that?
[10:12] <it21> are there german chatter , too?
[10:12] <brendonjt> anyone here know much about wine?
[10:12] <lupine_85> it's how old hardware communicates with the CPU(=software)
[10:12] <Lilandra> yeah but i mean...not the name
[10:12] <JoseStefan> boris, it wont be doing much, unless you tell it to do something
[10:12] <lupine_85> when two pieces of hardware use the same address... bad things can happen
[10:12] <lupine_85> !de
[10:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:12] <Lilandra> ah! ok
[10:13] <nikin> lupine: what is the new way?
[10:13] <boris> .lsit
[10:13] <it21> where can i get devices for ubuntu?
[10:13] <e-type> it21: "devices" ?
[10:13] <brendonjt> e-type: was just about to ask that
[10:13] <it21> in german treiber
[10:13] <JoseStefan> it21, newegg
[10:13] <lupine_85> nikin: new hardware avoids the CPU as much as possible
[10:13] <JoseStefan> amazon, etc
[10:14] <boris> Hers what my desktop looks like: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9260/screenshotzf5.png
[10:14] <boris> empty and boring
[10:14] <Lilandra> JoseStefan: so if livecd doesn't like my system too what hten?
[10:14] <e-type> it21: be more specific, wich device is not working?
[10:14] <nikin> it21: you can get my notebook for 10000$ it is totaly tested, every function is working under dapper :D
[10:14] <archangelpetro> morning all :)
[10:14] <nikin> lupine: but there are still interrupts
[10:14] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, for one, it means your current software setup is not the problem
[10:14] <massive222> Does anyone know which shell dapper drake uses as default?
[10:14] <it21> much ive just installed ubuntu
[10:14] <massive222> is it bash?
[10:14] <lupine_85> bash
[10:14] <Lilandra> but if it does like my system
[10:14] <archangelpetro> bash
[10:14] <massive222> oh
[10:14] <massive222> hmm..
[10:14] <lupine_85> good old bash :)
[10:15] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, could mean something is wrong with your current install
[10:15] <massive222> is it better to update this to a newer one?
[10:15] <it21> ive just installed ubuntu
[10:15] <meathead> hello everybody! can someone recommend a CLI wifi finder program?
[10:15] <lupine_85> meathead: iwlist
[10:15] <lupine_85> as in, sudo iwlist <interface> scan
[10:16] <massive222> archangelpetro: do you know where the bash file is
[10:16] <massive222> archangelpetro: i want to add aliases
[10:16] <lupine_85> lilandra: can you run "cd /proc/irq && ls *" ?
[10:16] <meathead> lupine_85, great, know a trick to find out my PCMCIA wireless card's interface name?
[10:17] <meathead> it's not
[10:17] <lupine_85> iwconfig
[10:17] <meathead> wlan0
[10:17] <Lilandra> i could but i just shut down the machine to download the livecd
[10:17] <lupine_85> see what shows up as having wireless extensions
[10:17] <lupine_85> Lilandra: ok np then
[10:17] <meathead> all that comes up is eth0
[10:17] <Lilandra> ha! when i did that...it said nothing had wireless extensions
[10:17] <lupine_85> (the cd && ls command lists your IRQ lines and what's attached to them()
[10:18] <lupine_85> if nothing shows up in uwconfig, your wireless card doesn't have it's driver loaded
[10:18] <lupine_85> if it's broadcom, you need the firmware
[10:18] <jib> hello everyone
[10:18] <lupine_85> !wireless
[10:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:18] <meathead> I'm on the wifi right now
[10:18] <meathead> it comes up at eth0, but should it?
[10:18] <Lilandra> lupine_85: i figured not to stress abt the wireless until i got the actual computer working
[10:19] <lupine_85> does it say that eth0 is a wireless device?
[10:19] <meathead> yeah
[10:19] <lupine_85> Lilandra: good idea :)
[10:19] <lupine_85> meathead: don't worry about it then
[10:19] <Lilandra> lupine_85: i don't think things crashed when i installed server...until i installed gdm from the cdrom
[10:19] <lupine_85> it's just a name
[10:19] <Lilandra> yeah! on this machine eth0 is wireless (when it's running linux)
[10:20] <lupine_85> Lilandra: that strongly suggests that it's the drivers for your graphics card, then
[10:20] <it21> are there german people??
[10:20] <lupine_85> !de
[10:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:20] <lupine_85> or rather, a conflict between the graphics card IRQ and "something else"
[10:20] <lupine_85> probably the wireless
[10:20] <Lilandra> lupine_85: then i shall take out the agp graphics card and try the onboard video
[10:20] <lupine_85> might not help, but worth a try
[10:20] <Lilandra> lupine_85: tho once upon a time in the old computer it was in, it worked
[10:20] <Lilandra> well, i'd probably have to reinstall
[10:20] <meathead> alright, thanks a lot lupine, you've been a big help
[10:20] <lupine_85> turn off the PCI IRQ in the bios as well
[10:21] <lupine_85> np meathead
[10:21] <Lilandra> oh i should take notes
[10:22] <lupine_85> hmm... any semi-competent bash scripters in?
[10:22] <jib> I'm lost somwhere between apt-get -b source metacity and --enable-compositor special option. Could someone tell me the tip that I presume trivial, yet I'm a newbie
[10:22] <redblades> lupine_85, #bac
[10:22] <redblades> lupine_85, #bash
[10:23] <Lilandra> lol
[10:23] <lupine_85> it's only a simple query :)
[10:24] <dsl552> well
[10:25] <meathead> lupine_85: so that means I should be typing "sudo iwlist /dev/eth0 scan" or "sudo iwlist eth0 scan" because either way it tells me interface doesn't support scanning
[10:25] <lupine_85> just eth0
[10:25] <meathead> k
[10:25] <Lilandra> aha! mine did that too meathead
[10:25] <lupine_85> if it doesn't work, then your driver uses a non-standard interface
[10:25] <Lilandra> i think ineeded to isntall things :)
[10:25] <meathead> Interface doesn't support scanning: Operation not supported
[10:25] <meathead> hmm, crap
[10:25] <jib> Please, help me to rebuild metacity on my G4 processor, compiz is oddly blued/color-inverted. So far, metacity is the only eye-candy possibolity for me http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotzy8.png
[10:26] <lupine_85> iwpriv might help
[10:26] <lupine_85> (run "iwpriv" and see what ioctls are listed)
[10:26] <Link9618> I can't display the whole screen using ubuntu 6.06
[10:26] <lupine_85> nobody answering in #bash :(
[10:27] <Lilandra> maybe i can install a different linux
[10:27] <RMorris85> jib: wow.. thats some eyecandy itself ;) lol
[10:28] <jib> RMorris85, do you know how to build metacity with that special option ?
[10:28] <meathead> iwpriv does list a bunch of things
[10:28] <lupine_85> do any of them allude to scanning?
[10:28] <meathead> resets, port configurations, preamble, ibssport, monitor and dumprecs
[10:28] <Link9618> I can't display the whole screen using ubuntu 6.06
[10:29] <CorpseFeeder> where's that list of wireless chipsets which support wpa under linux?
[10:29] <RMorris85> jib: sorry man im an ubuntu noob myself... i dont know what u got going on, but u should prolly check the ubuntu-xgl room tho they might be able to get ya fixed up in there
[10:29] <jib> Thanks, RMorris85
[10:29] <Lilandra> ooh i would like that list too
[10:29] <Lilandra> i found it once
[10:30] <JoseStefan> i gtg
[10:30] <Lilandra> bye JoseStefan! thanks
[10:30] <JoseStefan> bye
[10:30] <jib> bye everybody
[10:30] <Lilandra> oh thanks lupine_85 and bye
[10:30] <bioticpro> Anyone here use vlc?  Need help using it to play a dvd image from HD
[10:30] <lupine_85> cya JoseStefan
[10:30] <Lilandra> bye...i shall hopefully return tomorrow
[10:30] <Lilandra> thanks
[10:31] <CorpseFeeder> I've seen the list of supported cards but it's very limited. I thought there was a list of chipsets too
[10:31] <Crazed> any mono developers here ? :P
[10:31] <lupine_85> If there is, I would be very interested in seeing it
[10:32] <meathead> lupine_85: resets, port configurations, preamble, ibssport, monitor and dumprecs. are what are listed, I don't suppose any of those secretly allude to scanning for routers do they?
[10:32] <CorpseFeeder> anyway, mine is a RT61, so if anyone knows if it supports WPA in linux....
[10:32] <brian98>  corpsefeeder: acx
[10:32] <nn> is there a darker GTK2 theme i can use? how to switch themes??
[10:32] <nn> i want my gaim to have black background.. bright hurts the eyes so bad
[10:32] <CorpseFeeder> acx? what is that?
[10:33] <Crazed> nn turn some light on in your room :P
[10:33] <Crazed> that will help too ;)
[10:33] <nn> No
[10:33] <nn> it will burn us
[10:33] <lupine_85> meathead: dumprecs, maybe
[10:33] <Crazed> haha it's bad for your eyes anyway ..
[10:33] <nn> and make us sad inside
[10:33] <lupine_85> it's hard to say
[10:33] <Crazed> haha
[10:33] <Crazed> well go to http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:33] <brian98>  corpsefeeder: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX
[10:33] <marta> what can i do with my sound issue
[10:34] <marta> it  doesn't work
[10:34] <Crazed> nn: or you could just use this command: xgamma -gamma 0
[10:34] <Crazed> :P
[10:34] <Crazed> then it's dark ;)
[10:34] <nn> how to make theme different one?
[10:34] <nn> I have many
[10:34] <Crazed> don't know
[10:34] <Crazed> never changed themes with gnome
[10:35] <Waveline> hello everyone
[10:35] <Waveline> anyone up
[10:35] <Waveline> hehe
[10:35] <nn> not gnome :)
[10:35] <nn> just gtk w/ windowmaker
[10:35] <Crazed> are there no Mono developers here ?
[10:35] <nn> gnome is too big and unhappy
[10:35] <brendonjt> waveline: yip me is
[10:36] <Waveline> I am a .net/sudo coder
[10:36] <CorpseFeeder> oh yeah.. I almost forgot, I was tyring out WPAHOwTo in the WiFi Docs and installed wpa_suuplicant, then reached a dead end because the wpa_supplicant.cong file I am supposed to edit does not exist.
[10:36] <Crazed> well do you know Mono ? :p
[10:36] <brendonjt> waveline: you know much about wine??
[10:36] <CorpseFeeder> tryinh
[10:36] <e-type> Crazed: mono developer as in member of mono-project developers?
[10:36] <CorpseFeeder> trying
[10:36] <Waveline> no I am just moving over to linux...
[10:36] <Crazed> no just the MonoDevelop :)
[10:36] <e-type> CorpseFeeder: you have to create it
[10:36] <brendonjt> waveline: oh ok
[10:36] <Crazed> but the point is when I add a button to a form it's always the total size of that form :/
[10:36] <Crazed> how to change that ?
[10:37] <Waveline> how is mono compared to .net - its c# but how is the ide
[10:37] <e-type> Crazed: depends on the toolkit you're using
[10:37] <CorpseFeeder> yes, so I gathered, but the instructions on how to create it don't exist either, or are very well hidden by a secret society of people who don't want me to use WPA
[10:37] <e-type> CorpseFeeder: prolly the last ;)
[10:37] <Crazed> what do you mean with toolkit ?
[10:38] <Waveline> WPA is not really a good idea
[10:38] <meathead> lupine_85: wouldn't just typing "iwconfig essid any" do the trick
[10:38] <Crazed> it's just plain that monodevelop editor
[10:38] <Waveline> use radius and a cert
[10:38] <Waveline> much better
[10:38] <Waveline> cisco acs or freeradius will do
[10:38] <e-type> CorpseFeeder: http://hostap.epitest.fi/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/hostap/wpa_supplicant/README?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain
[10:38] <lupine_85> Waveline: freeradius is build off of WPA-2
[10:38] <lupine_85> meathead: possibly
[10:38] <e-type> Waveline: wtf wpa not a good idea?
[10:38] <CorpseFeeder> my AP uses WPA-PSK though
[10:39] <Crazed> e-type: I am just using the plain editor
[10:39] <CorpseFeeder> btw that asx100 link won't load any page
[10:39] <e-type> Crazed: learn how to use the toolkit you're using, you're just having trouble with it's layout management
[10:39] <Crazed> and it doesnt matter which type of language I choose with GTK .. it always puts every item I add to my form full size of the form
[10:39] <Assassin5> in KDE you used to be able to set the default username & password to be used when connecting to network shares. How can I do this in the KDE with Kubuntu
[10:39] <Crazed> zzzzz
[10:40] <Waveline> when I say not a good idea I mean only just wpa, you need a network authentication piece
[10:40] <Crazed> I tried everything
[10:40] <e-type> Crazed: I doubt that
[10:40] <e-type> Crazed: read some gtk tutorial
[10:40] <Crazed> well nm
[10:40] <Waveline> WPA is still a shared key without radius
[10:40] <Crazed> yea ..
[10:40] <meathead> can anyone tell me the command to manage the battery in laptops in linux?
[10:40] <Crazed> you don't know either
[10:41] <e-type> Crazed: you expect me to teach you how to use gtk???
[10:41] <Arcad3> is anybody interested in having Cedega?
[10:41] <Crazed> no
[10:41] <e-type> Crazed: read up on it!
[10:41] <Arcad3> +instalation suport?
[10:41] <Crazed> pff
[10:41] <Crazed> rly
[10:41] <Arcad3> for ubuntu First time users
[10:41] <meathead> Arcad3, are you offering binaries?
[10:41] <Waveline> Crazed do you want me to read up
[10:41] <e-type> meathead: you need an application for that, like gnome-power-manager, some dockapp, whatever
[10:42] <Arcad3> RPM .debs
[10:42] <Arcad3> ..
[10:42] <meathead> e-type: there is no CLI based program that's pretty much standard on most distros?
[10:42] <Crazed> Waveline: what are you talking about ?
[10:42] <Waveline> I wasn't sure if you were talking to me, apologize
[10:42] <e-type> meathead: there's /proc/acpi/battery/*
[10:43] <Arcad3> brb 5min
[10:43] <e-type> meathead: you could easily write a little script to use it's contents
[10:45] <e-type> Crazed: read up on packing ---> http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/
[10:45] <Crazed> already found that ..
[10:45] <barata> test
[10:46] <Crazed> but ok what I mean is with the monodevelop editor you can add widgets just by dragging it with the mouse
[10:46] <Crazed> only thing is they are always fullsize of your form
[10:46] <jozzeph> i have done sth wrong with my java plugin on firefox
[10:46] <Crazed> and that was the question
[10:46] <Waveline> Here is ?, has anyone, found a GNU product that hast a built in proxy for network authentication
[10:46] <jozzeph> java works fine with normal mozilla but badly with firefox
[10:46] <lupine_85> Waveline: freeradius ?
[10:47] <jozzeph> how should i repair a plugin
[10:47] <Waveline> is it using squid
[10:48] <lupine_85> erm, no. so you're looking for WWW authentication, not network authentication?
[10:48] <Crazed> e-type: did you read what I said ?
[10:48] <Waveline> I am sorry for miss speaking and saying wpa not good idea, what I meant was, using it without out radius..
[10:49] <jozzeph> how should i link my java plugin for firefox instead of normal mozilla
[10:49] <Arcad3> back
[10:49] <Waveline> would you agree crazed
[10:49] <lupine_85> WPA-PSK is pretty trivial to crack, true
[10:49] <lupine_85> (assuming a relatively short passphrase)
[10:49] <Crazed> .. sure Waveline .. don't know what you are talking about :)
[10:49] <Waveline> haha
[10:50] <Waveline> ok, I will drop it
[10:50] <ketsugi> use a 63-char randomised passphrase
[10:50] <ketsugi> https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm
[10:50] <lupine_85> or EAP-TKIP :)
[10:51] <lupine_85> Waveline: squid supports "extensive access controls" natively, by the looks of things
[10:51] <Waveline> so back to freeradius ???
[10:51] <Waveline> anyone here a expert on freeradius
[10:52] <lupine_85> I'm aiming to get it set up on my embedded firewall at some point
[10:52] <lupine_85> (right now I'm running an almost open network... good job the neighbours don't have a clue!)
[10:52] <VoX> if im installing ubuntu permanently on a desktop, do i want the desktop download or the server?
[10:52] <e-type> Crazed: I don't use monodevelop, but you probably have to add your widgets to a box and not simply to your window
[10:52] <Waveline> Here is what I want, I want users when they connect to my wireless network and try to surf to get a webpage that says they must authenticate
[10:52] <e-type> off now
[10:53] <Crazed> yes I have to add containers for them
[10:53] <Crazed> ;)
[10:53] <Waveline> Cisco ACS has that feature built in
[10:53] <Waveline> which i assume is just a proxy...
[10:53] <Waveline> am I off
[10:53] <Waveline> ?
[10:54] <Waveline> lupine...what kind of firewall are you running
[10:54] <bony> how to install quake3? i have the pak3 file with me
[10:54] <lupine_85> Waveline: that's freeradius + hostapd + "something else"
[10:54] <bony> on dapper
[10:54] <bony> 64bit os
[10:54] <lupine_85> Waveline: just iptables
[10:54] <lupine_85> on an SBC
[10:55] <lupine_85> (well, iptables + a few other bits)
[10:56] <lupine_85> Waveline: look at chillispot
[10:56] <lupine_85> http://www.chillispot.org/
[10:57] <Arcad3> !ping me
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <cvt> sethk,  i found a solution to access my camera. i chose konqueror by navigating to the executable file in usr/bin
[10:58] <Arcad3> Any first time user interested in cedega +suporT?
[11:00] <Waveline> cool lupine_85
[11:00] <Waveline> real cool
[11:00] <Waveline> thx
[11:01] <lupine_85> np
[11:03] <k31th> should ever user have there own group ?
[11:04] <lupine_85> k31th: depends on how many users you have, and how much you want to keep them separated
[11:05] <k31th> 1500 users
[11:05] <Arafangion> Whenever I attempt to compile a package using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, I get errors such as the following:
[11:05] <Arafangion> simias-event-client.c:(.text+0x1a2): undefined reference to `pthread_create'
[11:05] <Arafangion> How do I fix this? (This is Ubuntu EdgyEft)
[11:06] <lupine_85> probably best then :)
[11:06] <lupine_85> Arafangion: #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <lupine_85> looks like pthread isn't installed/loaded
[11:06] <lupine_85> (pthread is a glibc addon, IIRC)
[11:07] <Arafangion> lupine_85: That's what I thought, but it is evidently loaded, anyway, I'm in +1 now.
[11:07] <phate> is there away to change the file association? I want torrents to assoc with Azureus not the default Ubuntu dl thingee
[11:08] <lupine_85> phate: MIME Types
[11:08] <syouth> Hi. I have a small non-Ubuntu question. It is a feature request that has been buggin me for a while now. Under Windows using Firefox you can delete parts of an URL intelligently with shift-backspace... It deletes everything until encounters some special characters like / for an example. Under Linux it doesn't work like that way. Is there an alternative? What can be done, to add this nice feature in Firefox (it may be done in GTK supposedly, I think)...
[11:08] <lupine_85> which is in Nautilus somewhere, I guess
[11:09] <bluspirit> qualcuna sa come potrei abbassare la temperatura della cpu su linux
[11:09] <bluspirit> qualcuno
[11:09] <lupine_85> !fr
[11:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:09] <xopher> phate, well the easiest way, if you use gnome, is just to right click, properties, open with, then select the app you want, add if necessary
[11:09] <lupine_85> ?
[11:09] <lupine_85> !it
[11:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:09] <phate> xopher ah thanks!
[11:10] <syouth> Should I submit bugreport somewhere? Firefox? GTK?
[11:10] <lupine_85> Il susserro del Ubuntu :)
[11:10] <syouth> It is very very handy, if you get used to it. I haven't used Windows for a long now, but still miss this so:P
[11:11] <lupine_85> syouth: GTK I would imagine
[11:11] <lupine_85> as it's a standard GTK widget
[11:12] <syouth> Firefox you mean?
[11:12] <lupine_85> if you feed it back into Launchpad (http://launchapd.net), it'll probably get passed upstream
[11:12] <lupine_85> the title bar
[11:12] <lupine_85> erm, input box
[11:12] <lupine_85> oh, wait.... no it isn't!
[11:12] <lupine_85> Yes, you want to ask Firefox
[11:12] <syouth> Sorry for ignorance, but upstream means it will be submitted to the GTK developers for example?
[11:12] <lupine_85> (sorrry)
[11:13] <lupine_85> syouth: yes. but you want to submit it to firefox (as you surmised)
[11:13] <lupine_85> it's not a standard GTK widget after all
[11:13] <it21> hi all
[11:13] <syouth> I mean the place you type your URL ... It may work elsewhere too.. URL part is the most important.
[11:13] <it21> wow rocks
[11:13] <it21> lol
[11:13] <lupine_85> yep, that box has been developed by the firefox devs
[11:13] <it21> are there german chatters , too?
[11:13] <lupine_85> !de
[11:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:14] <it21> lol
[11:14] <lupine_85> erm, italian
[11:14] <lupine_85> and about 5 of german ;)
[11:14] <syouth> lupine_85: Oh. In that case I should bug Firefox guys:)
[11:14] <lupine_85> yep :)
[11:14] <lupine_85> the functionality might already be in the firefox 2 beta
[11:15] <syouth> Joined into #firefox, but I think they are idleing their asses off:P
[11:15] <meathead> hey lupine, you seem to be smart
[11:15] <meathead> know a command that would tell me where my x config is?
[11:15] <syouth> lupine_85: Good hint. I'll check that out right away
[11:15] <lupine_85> no, it isn't :(
[11:15] <lupine_85> meathead: not really, but it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <Arafangion> lupine_85: Is #ubuntu+1 normally _very_ slow?
[11:15] <lupine_85> no idea
[11:15] <meathead> I installed DSL on my laptop and I can't find the x config, it's not /etc/X11/xorg.conf like in ubuntu
[11:16] <lupine_85> no idea for DSL, sorry
[11:16] <Arafangion> lupine_85: At this stage, it's looking like it's a channel in which you wait for half-hour or so, then _maybe_ get a response.
[11:16] <lupine_85> although it might be xf86(something)
[11:16] <lupine_85> ls /etc/X11
[11:16] <lupine_85> Arafangion: you could always submit a bug report
[11:16] <lupine_85> might be faster
[11:17] <tRSS> can some one tell me where I can get some `bind` help?!
[11:18] <lupine_85> tRSS: what are you trying to do with it?
[11:18] <tRSS> #bind are also ideling their arse's off.
[11:18] <tRSS> alright, here we go lupine.
[11:19] <brian98> speaking of bind, 9 security updates just now
[11:19] <tRSS> i have been asked to fix a wierd problem in one our dns servers. It seems to be working fine, its just that when I do a dig, i get this: connection timed out; no servers could be reached. what is causing this problem, i am not sure. in fact, i am lost.
[11:19] <lupine_85> are you using dig @ ?
[11:20] <lupine_85> e.g. dig @ my-dns-server my-dns-record A
[11:20] <tRSS> nope. just a plain dig. e.g. dig www.google.com
[11:20] <lupine_85> try specifying the DNS server's IP (with the @ command)
[11:20] <rob_p> tRSS, Your /etc/resolv.conf file has valid nameserver(s)?
[11:20] <lupine_85> even if it's just 127.0.0.1
[11:20] <tRSS> lupine_85: alright, let me try that
[11:21] <lupine_85> bind acts as a caching nameserver by default, so if it's running and has internet access, it should be able to resolve google for you
[11:21] <lupine_85> (/var/log/daemon.log for error messages)
[11:22] <tRSS> rob_p: my resolv.conf is pointing to itself, which I think should be the case.
[11:22] <tRSS> let me check those log files. just a sec
[11:22] <rob_p> tRSS, as in 127.0.0.1 or your interface's IP address?
[11:22] <lupine_85> pointing to your own public IP, or 127.0.0.1? What is BIND 'bound' to?
[11:23] <tRSS> pointing to its public ip
[11:23] <tRSS> sorry my bad
[11:23] <tRSS> pointing to its internal ip
[11:23] <lupine_85> which BIND isn't bound to? :)
[11:24] <tRSS> ooh crap, i think (correct me if I am wrong), it should be the public ip, shouldn't it?
[11:24] <lupine_85> mine is bound to both
[11:24] <syouth> lupine_85: FF 2-b2 hasn't that shitf-backspace feature by default...
[11:25] <tRSS> let me try both then and see if it works
[11:25] <lupine_85> udp        0      0 lupine.me.uk:domain     *:* and s/lupine.me.uk/localhost/
[11:26] <lupine_85> syouth: then your best bet is to email the developers and nicely ask them to implement it
[11:26] <lupine_85> ot you could probably write a FireFox extension to do it
[11:26] <lupine_85> somebody might have done so already
[11:27] <aidosnet> someone can help me? using ekiga I want to connect to my voipstunt account to use my contact list else to import it in ekiga
[11:27] <syouth> lupine_85: Sure. Only that I don't see why wouldn't FF act on every platform the same...
[11:27] <syouth> I don't see why it shouldn't do that...
[11:27] <lupine_85> syouth: firefox linux is quite different
[11:27] <lupine_85> it has to be, to compile in the different environment
[11:27] <tRSS> alright, adding the public ip in resolv.conf didn't work.
[11:28] <lupine_85> ok, what does netstat -a |grep domain say ?
[11:28] <lupine_85> (pastebin if more than one, maybe 2, lines)
[11:28] <syouth> lupine_85: Yes yes, but still... It is the same app.. Why should it's interface differ from platform to platform...
[11:28] <lupine_85> syouth: lots of reasons
[11:29] <lupine_85> if you make a plate out of clay, and then make another plate out of gold, even if you use the same spec doc, they're going to be different
[11:29] <lupine_85> (obviously, linux is the gold ;) )
[11:29] <lupine_85> bad analogy, but it does the trick
[11:30] <tRSS> lupine_85: netstat to check for the dns port (53). i can see both udp/tcp ports are open and listening
[11:30] <syouth> But still. You can eat the same from same plate. Food should taste same.
[11:31] <lupine_85> hmmm. and can your DNS server contact upstream ?
[11:31] <tRSS> how do I check that, lupine?
[11:31] <syouth> On FF channel somewone suggested to search through about:config
[11:32] <lupine_85> syouth: widgets differ betwen operating systems. That's just the way it goes
[11:34] <lupine_85> tRSS: I guess it was a bit of a silly question - we've already established that you can't resolve name
[11:34] <lupine_85> *s
[11:34] <tRSS> this is not right, is it (from netstat -natu | grep :53): udp        0      0 197.7.XX.20:53         0.0.0.0:*                     (missing a Listen here)
[11:34] <lupine_85> yes
[11:34] <lupine_85> you want netstat -a |grep domain
[11:35] <syouth> Yes, but should it be that way. If you use one app on platform a and use it on platform b, you should not worry yourself about differences. You should even not notice, that you are using different platform (ok, graphics differ a littlebit, but that's not point)
[11:35] <syouth> *correction: Yes, but should it be that way?
[11:35] <lupine_85> syouth: the codebase is completely different in places. OF course there are going to be differences
[11:36] <tRSS> !pastebin
[11:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:36] <lupine_85> the only way to fix it is to write a universal API and widget set... and that's called (urk) java
[11:36] <thotz> #ubuntu-bugs
[11:36] <yoshiznit123> is there a way to delete the first 3 characters of every line in a file?
[11:37] <AshyIsMe> is there a utility for ubuntu to select the desktop manager?
[11:37] <lupine_85> hang on, udp doesn't have a LISTEN flag
[11:37] <lupine_85> (^tRSS^)
[11:37] <AshyIsMe> like, to choose between gnome/kde ?
[11:37] <syouth> lupine_85: Understandable. If this is FF feature, it should be usable in different platforms. If it is feature from something underneath (GTK or whatever Windows is using), it may differ.
[11:38] <lupine_85> syouth: not necessarily the case
[11:38] <tRSS> lupine_85: pastebin'ed the results at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22902
[11:38] <lupine_85> offtopic anyway, TBH
[11:38] <tRSS> lupine_85: that what I wanted your opinion on, i.e. the missing listen flag!
[11:39] <tourach> yoshiznit123: "% s/^...//" in vim
[11:39] <lupine_85> yes, you don't need the LISTEN flag
[11:39] <tRSS> anyhow, pastebin'ed the results from the netstat command above. URL is ^^^
[11:39] <lupine_85> Is there anything blocking communication? e.g. a firewall? between you and other DNS servers?
[11:40] <tRSS> there is a firewall (which I can't control). But I am assured by my network team that nothing is blocked for tcp/udp 53 port
[11:40] <yoshiznit123> tourach, k thanks
[11:40] <lupine_85> hmm. You might need to specify some forwarders in /etc/bind/named.conf.options
[11:40] <lupine_85> (assuming you have them!)
[11:41] <lupine_85> so there are no useful errors in daemon.log ?
[11:41] <tRSS> aww crap, forgot to check the logs. sorry, let me go through them real quick
[11:44] <lupine_85> You can test UDP network connectivity by running sudo traceroute www.google.co.uk (uses udp)
[11:44] <lupine_85> erm, get rid of the sudo
[11:44] <lupine_85> (was experimenting with p- 53, but doesn't do what we want it to do)
[11:45] <mneptok> arr.
[11:45] <tRSS> lupine_85: results --> traceroute: unknown host www.google.com
[11:45] <mrDaniel> i have evince ans adobe acrobat reader. what i have to do to make acrobat reader the default-pdf-reader?
[11:45] <lupine_85> ah, doh :)
[11:45] <mrDaniel> where i can set file-extension with a specific programm
[11:45] <tRSS> exactly.
[11:45] <lupine_85> try traceroute 66.102.9.104
[11:47] <tRSS> traceroute with the ip address seems to be fine. it is getting there.
[11:47] <Zorlac> question: why is my computer detecting my two IDE's as /dev/sdc and /sdd
[11:47] <lupine_85> it's not blocking the IP address then
[11:47] <lupine_85> Zorlac: you've got them plugged into IDE-1
[11:47] <lupine_85> rather than IDE-0
[11:47] <Zorlac> ... no way =O
[11:47] <lupine_85> erm, dns
[11:47] <lupine_85> erm, udp!!!
[11:48] <tRSS> ???
[11:48] <lupine_85> do you have any funny stuff in named.conf.options ?
[11:48] <lupine_85> access control, etc?
[11:48] <Zorlac> I'm almost 100% sure they are in ide-0...
[11:48] <tRSS> i don't have any named.conf.options!
[11:48] <lupine_85> zorlac: your computer is acting as though they aren't...
[11:48] <Zorlac> my computer hates me.
[11:48] <lupine_85> not that it matters
[11:48] <Zorlac> One hard drive and video card later...
[11:50] <rob_p> tRSS, For troubleshooting, you can temporarily put, "nameserver 4.2.2.1" into your /etc/resolv.conf file and see if you can reach a public DNS...
[11:51] <rob_p> tRSS, Once you put that into your /etc/resolv.conf file, you should be able to do, "dig google.com" and get a resolution.
[11:51] <Losty1981> does anyone know how to make permanent /etc/resolv.conf changes..... mine keeps resetting to a default that doesnt work...    right when I'm halfway through an automatix script....I can't change the dns through the standard GUI.. keeps defaulting to something that doesnt work...its wierd
[11:52] <lupine_85> Losty1981: can you add it to /etc/network/interfaces? e.g. dns-nameserver <blah>
[11:52] <lupine_85> failing that, you could edit the leases file or something I guess
[11:53] <tRSS> rob_p: surprisingly, after editing the resolv.conf for the above changes, I am still getting a connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:53] <lupine_85> "they" must be blocking DNS then...
[11:53] <Losty1981> ill look into that area lupine.... im linux newbie sorry
[11:53] <rob_p> tRSS, Then outbound dns is blocked...
[11:53] <Losty1981> thanks
[11:53] <lupine_85> must get going, anyway
[11:53] <lupine_85> ttfn
[11:54] <tRSS> rob_p: you mean by the service provider?
[11:54] <tRSS> lupine_85: thanks for the help. later
[11:54] <rob_p> tRSS, yes
[11:54] <tRSS> rob_p: now that is something that should be explored, I guess
[11:54] <rob_p> tRSS, either that or your network admin folks have it blocked...
[11:55] <Mocka> Hello
[11:55] <tRSS> rob_p: is there a way to confirm this, may be by crawling from outside (using dnsstuff.com, etc.)
[11:55] <Mocka> I'm looking for a linux distro, I want one where shit is easy to install any suggestions?
[11:55] <rob_p> tRSS, The thing is, your provider shouldn't be blocking it, otherwise you have no way to resolve anything!
[11:55] <brian98> I've googled but can't find anything, anyone with any issues with rdesktop and 100% cpu usage?
[11:56] <tRSS> Mocka: none of the linux distros install shit, so you are out of luck buddy ;)
[11:56] <rob_p> tRSS, ...unless they are trying to, "force" you to use their nameservers or something along those lines...
[11:57] <tRSS> rob_p: i guess you are right. Here goes my weekend for bind!!
[11:57] <rob_p> tRSS, Try this, as a last troubleshooting step.  Use the nameserver of your provider in your /etc/resolv.conf file and see if that works.
[11:57] <Losty1981> lupine....what are leases?? is that something to do with dhcp?
[11:57] <rob_p> tRSS, If that does, then you've nailed it!
[11:58] <mneptok> tRSS: try "telnet 204.60.0.2 53"
[11:58] <tRSS> alright, I will try it after some time, right now, I need a break. but thanks for all your help rob_p. really appreciate it.
[11:58] <rob_p> tRSS, You aren't running a local firewall or anything, right?
[11:58] <tRSS> nope
[11:59] <rob_p> tRSS, Ok then... good luck with it.
[11:59] <tRSS> thanks :)
[11:59] <mneptok> brb
[11:59] <liquidangle> ubuntu is taking over ?
[11:59] <liquidangle> the world hehe
[11:59] <highvoltage> depending on your definition of 'taking over'
[12:00] <liquidangle> gaining user :)
[12:00] <liquidangle> s
[12:00] <mneptok> tRSS: still there?
[12:00] <highvoltage> some would say it has already taken over then :)
[12:00] <liquidangle> voltage: yeah, I was using it back in the day when I though it was underground
[12:00] <brian98> Hey all , about to install dapper on a fujistu siemens laptop (my primary - going to get funny looks in the office) - wish me luck!!
[12:01] <liquidangle> brian: good luck hehe
[12:01] <brian98> :)
[12:01] <mneptok> brian98: i'd get funny looks in the office running anything *but* Ubuntu ;)
[12:02] <liquidangle> mneptok: what ?
[12:02] <liquidangle> wow
[12:02] <_ian>  hi how do i enable file sharing with a windows computer? im conencted using a router with four ports..... my other computer is running winxp
[12:02] <liquidangle> sup _ian
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[12:02] <Zorlac> I can't even get ubuntu to install.
[12:02] <brian98> or google lol
[12:02] <liquidangle> google just runs the net
[12:02] <Zorlac> I was able to install gentoo and freebsd, but it seems ubuntu is too hard core for me
[12:03] <mneptok> of course, they tolerate my Mac Quadra 605 running NetBSD because there's no m68k Ubuntu port.
[12:03] <liquidangle> what would I do without it
[12:03] <liquidangle> Zorlac: hahaha
[12:03] <mneptok> brian98: it's Canonical ;)
[12:03] <mneptok> liquidangle: where in WA?
[12:03] <brian98> much apolgies Canonical :)
[12:04] <mneptok> brian98: echoing sentiments of my colleagues, too :)
[12:04] <liquidangle> mneptok: i'm not sure yet, i've been hittin the mls's lately
[12:04] <liquidangle> mneptok: what do you know about Mason county ?
[12:04] <brian98> Apologies to them too....
[12:04] <liquidangle> it looks pretty cheap for lakefront livin
[12:05] <brian98> Your doing a mighty job
[12:05] <mneptok> liquidangle: little. my experience (having been an Oregonian) is mostly with the imediate I-5 corridor.
[12:05] <liquidangle> keep in mind, i'm coming from a rat raced southern california
[12:05] <mneptok> liquidangle: what's the goal? i mean, why WA?
[12:05] <liquidangle> mneptok: i-5 access is essential :)
[12:05] <liquidangle> mneptok: well, i wanna live in a small town with access to the seattle rat race
[12:06] <subiet> Hello, I am looking for a complete media player with media managment support
[12:06] <subiet> any suggestions
[12:06] <Zorlac> Anyone else have an explination for my ata drives being labed sdc and sdd?
[12:06] <mneptok> liquidangle: I-5 commutes into Seattle at rush hour (south OR north) are horrific
[12:07] <rasputnik> Zorlac: are they sata?
[12:07] <Zorlac> No.
[12:07] <tomcatt> !xgl
[12:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:07] <rasputnik> Zorlac: then i've no idea :)
[12:07] <Zorlac> hahaha
[12:07] <tRSS> looking for me mneptok?
[12:07] <exmethix> does anybody know how to install initng?
[12:07] <mneptok> tRSS: aye. can you telnet to port 53 at 204.60.0.2 ?
[12:08] <tRSS> what is that ip?
[12:08] <exmethix> i wantet to try it but i get da dependicy error
[12:08] <subiet> exmethix, i guess i can help with initng
[12:08] <subiet> what do you want to know
[12:08] <mneptok> tRSS: public DNS server
[12:08] <exmethix> ab: libc6 (>=2.3.6-6), aber es wird 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[12:08] <subiet> i got it working some time back, and it is wonderful, 6 second shutdown time is dream come true
[12:08] <Zorlac> Gparted wont even load when ni try to install ubuntu
[12:08] <Zorlac> UBUNTU HATES MEEEE
[12:08] <tRSS> yea, I can telnet the above it
[12:08] <exmethix> subiet, i want to install it :D
[12:09] <tanek> how do i get apt to not ignore repositories
[12:09] <rasputnik> subiet: have you tried upstart yet?
[12:09] <subiet> rasputnik> i haven't tried upstart yet
[12:09] <mneptok> tRSS: then your ISP is not blocking connection attempts on port 53.
[12:09] <subiet> exmethix, i guess the best place for you to start would be initng wiki
[12:09] <mneptok> tRSS: try "nslookup google.com 204.60.0.2"
[12:10] <subiet> as you are on a ubuntu channel i assume you have ubuntu, so wait, i will just give the link
[12:10] <rasputnik> subiet: nor me, but it looks promising. they seem to at least be aware of all the other approaches
[12:10] <subiet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitNG
[12:10] <tRSS> hold on, i telnet'd from the wrong window, that was telnet from my machine and dns machine is in someother location
[12:10] <tRSS> trying to telnet from there.
[12:11] <mneptok> tRSS: it doesn't matter. no matter what machine on your network is making the connection attempt, your ISP is not blocking it (as was suggested)
[12:11] <tRSS> nope, i am with a different isp and the dns machine is on some remote network
[12:12] <mneptok> ah.
[12:12] <mneptok> when you say "DNS machine" are you talking about a machine running bIND that you control?
[12:12] <rasputnik> tRSS: try the nslookup rather than telnet
[12:12] <mneptok> *BIND
[12:12] <tRSS> that is correct mneptok
[12:13] <tRSS> infact, when I try to telnet to my bind machine from my existing location port 53, i am getting a time out
[12:14] <subiet> upstart looks nice
[12:14] <mnepton> argh
[12:14] <mnepton> sorry, my home ISP is falling down tonight
[12:15] <mnepton> and ... he's gone.
[12:16] <iain> How can I access the hibernate command from the console?
[12:16] <Zorlac> hibernate?
[12:16] <iain> Yeah
[12:16] <iain> I'm in a minimalist window manager I'm trying out, and I don't know how :P
[12:17] <Zorlac> um, i think you need a hibernate script..
[12:17] <iain> Normally it's one of the log out options
[12:18] <Zorlac> iain: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/hibernate
[12:18] <mnepton> iain: does this WM support ACPI?
[12:18] <iain> mnepton: Isn't that a low-level thing, having nothing to do with the WM?
[12:19] <subiet> well i repeat my question, anyone here has a suggestion of a good media player with media managment
[12:19] <rasputnik> mnepton: window managers manage windows, they don't do acpi for you
[12:19] <mnepton> iain: the WM has to have hooks into it if it's going to trigger power-saving modes
[12:19] <tanek> anyone else had problems with synaptics driver?
[12:19] <rasputnik> mnepton: no it doesn't, just write a script and map it to a button/keypress/whatever
[12:20] <mnepton> rasputnik: that's one way. the other way is to have the WM communicate to the ACPI subsystem (like putting the machine to sleep after x number of minutes)
[12:20] <iain> Zorlac: I have the functionality on my computer (though I don't have that package) so I don't need to install it, but I don't know the command.  Do you?
[12:21] <rasputnik> mnepton: a window manager draws bars around x clients. that's all it dose
[12:21] <mnepton> rasputnik: really, so a WM never looks intyo /proc/acpi?
[12:21] <mnepton> *into
[12:21] <rasputnik> mnepton: why would it?
[12:21] <mnepton> you *aure* about that?
[12:22] <iain> I found it
[12:22] <mnepton> http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnome-acpi/
[12:22] <iain> /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[12:22] <rasputnik> mnepton: that's not a window manager!
[12:22] <mnepton> rasputnik: so then run it without one.
[12:23] <iain> mnepton: It's perfectly possible, don't you know?
[12:23] <iain> Just make sure you don't even have twm installed
[12:23] <rasputnik> mnepton: that's a program that shows you remaining battery life, it hasn't even got anything to do with acpi
[12:23] <mnepton> rasputnik: the point is, a WM or DE can be told to interact or query /proc/acpi just as easily as a shell script.
[12:23] <highvoltage> you can make a window manager do acpi
[12:23] <xinel> anyone else having trouble getting to alsa project?
[12:24] <rasputnik> mnepton: that's not what you linked to. and i was disagreeing with your statement that a wm is needed to hibernate
[12:24] <highvoltage> you could hack metacity or something to have a suspend button next to your minimize/maximize/close buttons :)
[12:24] <mnepton> rasputnik: i never said "a WM is needed to hibernate"
[12:24] <iain> mnepton: You asked me if my WM supported ACPI.
[12:24] <mnepton> rasputnik: i asked if this *aprticular* WM had any hooks into ACPI stuff. that's all.
[12:24] <mnepton> *particular
[12:25] <iain> Anyway, I found hibernate, so I'm gonna.
[12:25] <rasputnik> highvoltage, rasputnik : i said 'just map a button/keypress to a hibernate script'
[12:25] <xinel> still can't get my hda sound card to work
[12:25] <rasputnik> anny way
[12:26] <McNutella> good morning.
[12:27] <rasputnik> is there a tool to stop me eating this whole sack of peanuts in one sitting? because the bag is far too big.
[12:27] <McNutella> Some how when I boot up it shows "kubuntu" even though I am using Ubuntu. How do I change it back to show the Ubuntu Logo ?
[12:28] <rasputnik> McNutella: do you mean it's showing the kde login screen?
[12:29] <lz05> I would put duct tape over the K, but only if it *really* bugs you that much
[12:29] <McNutella> no, rasputnik, as the system is booting p
[12:29] <McNutella> up
[12:30] <rasputnik> McNutella: on the splash screen thingy? I'd just look away
[12:30] <lz05> McNutella: Seriously though, you could turn off the bootsplash in the bootloader configuration, I believe
[12:31] <McNutella> not the splash screen either.. when you turn PC on, while its booting, the blue kubuntu shows, it used to show the normal Ubuntu
[12:31] <Losty1981> ah sorted thanks guys
[12:31] <McNutella> might just put duct tape over the whole screen :)
[12:32] <rasputnik> McNutella: nah, seriously - I think you mean the grub splashscreen? google to see where the xpm is loaded from
[12:32] <McNutella> where all the OK's are scrolling up
[12:33] <rasputnik> McNutella: yeah, that's the grub splash screen. I'd guess kubuntu installs a package that changes the picture it uses
[12:34] <McNutella> isnt life a bitch
[12:34] <rasputnik> but there's nothing in my (default) grub config that tells we where it loads *its* picture from
[12:34] <frojnd> hello my hacking friends
[12:34] <frojnd> one q.
[12:35] <frojnd> I am using kubuntu and I got disk whic is NTFS formated
[12:35] <lz05> McNutella: Could I interest you in LILO? Simply because I never cared too much too look into the configuration of grub
[12:35] <frojnd> how can I format it in something that linux likes it
[12:35] <tanek> how do i turn on shmconfig? synaptics driver tells me to do that
[12:35] <sphivo> McNutella: uninstall kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[12:35] <frojnd> and it's cheked for linux that works properly
[12:35] <rasputnik> lz05: take the time to learn grub. it wizzes all over your puny bootloader.
[12:35] <rasputnik> hmm could possibly have been more tactful. ho hum
[12:36] <McNutella> sphivo, see that looks farmilliar, but then what happens when its looking for the ubuntu thingiemabobber
[12:36] <rasputnik> McNutella: it'll go back to the default
[12:36] <McNutella> lz05, i dont want to touch anything like that :)
[12:36] <sphivo> It'll just load the old Ubuntu one.
[12:36] <SpComb> frojnd: well, you can wipe the partition and put ext3 onto it... do you need to continue using the NTFS partition from windows or keep the data?
[12:37] <frojnd> SpComb no I don't use wins anymore
[12:37] <frojnd> I hate them :P
[12:37] <McNutella> and the main annoyance is, when the system asks for the password, it fades the screen, then it flashes and blah!
[12:37] <lz05> In the early days of me trying to learn Linux, I accidentally piped a file into grub instead of grep....no damage though
[12:38] <jay_> Hi, What is difference between programming on Linux and Windows?
[12:38] <McNutella> tee hee
[12:38] <opexoc> Do you know where in ubuntu filesystem I can find some fonts?
[12:38] <Arafangion> jay_: One is a sane environment, the other attempts to be sane, but can only do so with enourmous packages such as Visual Studio 2005 and .NET
[12:38] <frojnd> SpComb frojnd: well, you can wipe the partition and put ext3 onto it... do you need to continue using the NTFS partition from windows or keep the data?  How can I wipe it.. or format it..
[12:39] <mjr> jay_, no fundamental difference; different libraries are available by default, some of which may be available as separate installs for the other too (and some not)
[12:39] <sphivo> opexoc: Check out /usr/share/fonts
[12:39] <SpComb> frojnd: then you can just do "mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd<whateveritis><partition>", that will replace the NTFS partition with ext3, keep in mind that it will also destory all data on that partition
[12:40] <rasputnik> jay_: depends what language you're using
[12:40] <McNutella> Scottish mainly for me :)
[12:41] <rasputnik> jings
[12:41] <mnepton> jay_: Linux programming is like carefully crafting an elegant Gothic cathedral stone-by-stone. Windows programming is like gluing gold-painted macaroni ona sheet of construction paper, smearing it with Ebola virus, and then asking people to lick it and tell you how wonderful it tastes.
[12:41] <frojnd> keep in mind that it will also destory all data on that partition I allready make sure that data can go to***
[12:41] <frojnd> :P
[12:41] <GusWrk> Hi guys.  My system has stopped automounting my CDROM, CDRW and Floppy drives.  Checking dmesg after putting a CD shows no new messages, so I'm kinda stuck as to what to do to fix it.
[12:41] <McNutella> rasputnik, crivvens!
[12:41] <jay_> Why do some companys employ C/C++ programmer under Linux, not under Windows?
[12:41] <SVisor> mnepton: Biased are you?
[12:42] <CaptainKidd> mnepton, lol
[12:42] <Arafangion> jay_: Because winapi *sucks*
[12:43] <rasputnik> jay_: unix/linux is written *in* C by programmers for programmers.
[12:43] <McNutella> jings and crivvens isnt glasgow :P but well done.. as for the deep fried mars bar, dont tell anyone, its still patent pending :P
[12:43] <SVisor> jay_: Probably because the target OS is Linux. There are a lot of API diffs between Linux and Windows.
[12:44] <lz05> jay_: My favorite language on Windows is Burnt Toast. It embeds a lovely scratching sound into the OS. No wait...that's the login sound that comes with Windows..oh well
[12:44] <McNutella> lol
[12:47] <jamesuk> Hello
[12:47] <nich0s> hey allz
[12:47] <jamesuk> Can someone help me with a small networking problem accessing the web?
[12:47] <McNutella> try us jamesuk  :)
[12:48] <morbid88> hey guys. I need some more help with my wireless, please. I've managed to load the driver, ipw3945, but now I can't get the daemon to run.
[12:48] <nich0s> morbid88: Are you on a Sony Viao?
[12:48] <frojnd> SpComb what's the difference between fat32 and exte
[12:48] <morbid88> nope. I'm on an MSI M660, if that means anything t you.
[12:48] <frojnd> beside that ext3 is linux only
[12:49] <morbid88> nich0s: I've been having trouble with it for a whole week. Managed to finally get the driver module up, and I have no idea how I did that.
[12:49] <nich0s> morbid88: I have a vaio with that card in it and it worked flawlessly when I loaded Dapper on to it.
[12:49] <jamesuk> [PROBLEM]  I've just installed Ubunto 6.06 on my laptop. I am connected to my wired LAN. I have it configured by DHCP but I cannot access the internet. I can ping websites and get a reply, but when I traceroute the same website it gets to about step 8 and then gives no reply. Any Ideas?
[12:50] <lz05> jamesuk: is it aliased to something like wlan# or eth# (dapper auto-assigned eth1 on my wireless)
[12:50] <morbid88> it seems wireless troubles are comon place with linux.
[12:50] <SpComb> frojnd: uh, I don't know any details, but FAT32 is ancient (win98 anyone?), ext3 is more recent...
[12:50] <jamesuk> lz05: In Admin -> Networking it has default gateway as eth0
[12:50] <nich0s> morbid88: I'm on my wifi right now :P
[12:50] <rasputnik> frojnd: ext3 is journalled, fat32 isn't
[12:50] <xica> hola
[12:51] <frojnd> ok..
[12:51] <frojnd> let's format it ;)
[12:51] <SpComb> frojnd: definatly use ext3 if possible...
[12:51] <Zorlac> i don't thinkn fat32 supports large hard drives
[12:51] <Chousuke> frojnd: fat32 is not fit for most usage nowadays
[12:51] <nich0s> jamesuk: Have you tried assigning it a static IP at your router and in the network settings of your adapter/
[12:51] <frojnd> ok..
[12:51] <Chousuke> you can't store a DVD image on a FAT32 drive. It can't handle files over 4GB in size. :)
[12:52] <lz05> jamesuk: what does ifconfig give you? iwconfig? route? ....I learned mostly on the command line
[12:52] <frojnd> so ext3 will cover 400gb of HD ?
[12:52] <nich0s> frojnd: oui
[12:52] <Chousuke> shouldn't be a problem.
[12:52] <frojnd> k
[12:52] <nich0s> xica: hola.
[12:52] <rasputnik> jamesuk: traceroute failing isn't necessariy a problem. do you hane dns setup?
[12:52] <Zorlac> fat32 is just failure, never use it
[12:52] <SpComb> frojnd: ext3 can handle terabytes
[12:52] <frojnd> ;)
[12:53] <rasputnik> SpComb: actually only 8Tb.
[12:53] <Chousuke> Zorlac: it's sometimes needed. Almost all operating systems support it :P
[12:53] <SpComb> rasputnik: terabytes
[12:53] <Zorlac> =[
[12:53] <jamesuk> nich0s: I tried that but it wouldn't even resolve a domain name then for some strange reason.
[12:53] <Zorlac> liesss
[12:53] <morbid88> nich0s: you have any idea how I load the daemon?
[12:53] <Chousuke> 8Tb = 1 terabyte :P
[12:54] <SpComb> I'm somewhat sure he meant 8 terabytes there
[12:54] <rasputnik> SpComb: even 8TB isn't Big Enough for some cases. it'll need a rewrite soon
[12:54] <nich0s> jamesuk: Are other computers on your network exhibiting the same symptoms?
[12:54] <jamesuk> rasputnik: it auto-configured my DNS (192.168.0.100) which is correct
[12:54] <Zorlac> I'm so sad that ubuntu doesn't come with dmraid already
[12:54] <Chousuke> Ext4 will probably arrive someday
[12:54] <Arafangion> rasputnik: I'm sure that if you have a few TB, you'll be happy to write the fs yourself.
[12:54] <rasputnik> jamesuk: does 'nslookup google.com' work?
[12:54] <Zorlac> Anyone know an neffective and easy way to mount my raid drives?
[12:54] <Arafangion> rasputnik: As google did.
[12:55] <Arafangion> Chousuke: It's already being designed.
[12:55] <rasputnik> Arafangion: lots of people have >8TB, it's not a ridiculous amount of storage
[12:55] <jamesuk> nich0s: No I have XP Pro on the laptop too and thats fine - I am on my main tower here and thats fine too. I had SUSE on the laptop before and there were no problems there.
[12:55] <nich0s> morbid88: I'm not going to lie to you... I never won the battle with the WIFI. :
[12:55] <Chousuke> besides, there already exist filesystems fit for large amounts of data
[12:55] <Chousuke> like ZFS
[12:55] <rasputnik> Chousuke: not for linux though
[12:55] <nich0s> jamesuk: A simple no would have been cool :P What about the 'nslookup google.com'?
[12:55] <jamesuk> rasputnik: yes nslookup google.com works
[12:56] <nich0s> kewl
[12:56] <rasputnik> jamesuk: then dns is fine. what exactly doesn't work
[12:56] <jamesuk> nich0s: :)
[12:56] <Chousuke> rasputnik: AFAIK it's being ported or something
[12:56] <rasputnik> Chousuke: yes, but only as a fuse layer. it'll be slow
[12:56] <morbid88> nich0s: So we are already doomed.
[12:56] <parkour_druid> hello
[12:56] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I can't get a webpage to show in Firefox, it just times out (as does traceroute) ping is fine though.
[12:57] <rasputnik> jamesuk: try a 'telnet www.whereever.com 80', then mash return a few times. see if you can connect
[12:57] <rasputnik> jamesuk: the reason I'm not bothered about traceroute is that lots of isps block it.
[12:58] <nich0s> jamesuk: There aren't any proxies hardcoded in to firefox, are there?
[12:58] <SpComb> block ICMP TTL expired replies?
[12:58] <Zorlac> apt-get uses the packages listed online right?
[12:58] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I tried telnet www.google.co.uk 80 and pressed enter a few times - it came up Trying 1.0.0.0
[12:59] <jamesuk> nich0s: I haven't configured any proxies in it
[12:59] <rasputnik> jamesuk: what ip does it actually say?
[12:59] <jamesuk> nich0s: Just checked - says Direct Connection to the Internet
[01:00] <nich0s> jamesuk: I guess I shouldn't be trying to help people after being up for 48 hours :P
[01:00] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Just came up exactly as "Trying 1.0.0.0 ..." then nothing
[01:00] <jamesuk> nich0s: 48 hours! How are you still awake! Get some sleep! :p
[01:01] <rasputnik> jamesuk: that's f-cked. that's the wrong ip for google. type 'set|grep -i proxy' on the console
[01:01] <Zorlac> anything on (http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages) should be able to be apt-get'd right?
[01:01] <SVisor> jamesuk: If it realy tried to access IP 1.0.0.0 then your DNS is totally hoaxed.  What does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" tell you?
[01:01] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Just came up telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[01:01] <_cerberus_> When trying to mount a remote directory using "mount -t nfs myserver:/home/username /mnt/myserver" I get an error stating "mount: RPC: Program not registered" does anyone know what could be causing this and how to fix it?
[01:01] <rasputnik> _cerberus_: install portmap and start it
[01:02] <rasputnik> _cerberus_: on the client
[01:02] <nich0s> jamesuk: Should be like 64.233.meh.something
[01:02] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I types 'set|grep -i proxy' and it came up with a load of options with -B --bts etc
[01:02] <_cerberus_> I already have it installed and started
[01:03] <jamesuk> SVisor: cat /etc/resolv.conf comes up "nameserver 192.168.0.100" which is my router address
[01:03] <rasputnik> jamesuk: ok, try 'telnet google.com 99' too. see what ip it tries then
[01:03] <rasputnik> jamesuk: because it looks like exactly like you have a proxy configured
[01:03] <jamesuk> rasputnik: "Trying 1.0.0.0 ..." again :(
[01:04] <lz05> jamesuk: have you tried a simple dhclient (or dhcpcd) on the interface?
[01:04] <XeniX> Hey everyone, I just installed some software updates (compiz-core, compiz-plugins and some other stuff) and now my windows have no icons/borders.... compiz gives me the error "unable to load plugin: gconf". Any Ideas?
[01:04] <SVisor> jamesuk: It should not be your router, it should be your DNS... I do not know how Ubunut scripts DHCP. But DHCP fails to set up DNS.
[01:04] <rasputnik> jamesuk: that's bizarre. but a ping works?
[01:04] <jamesuk> lz05: I typed dhclient - it came up "Permission Denied"
[01:05] <rasputnik> jamesuk: ok, one more for me ;   telnet 64.233.167.99 80
[01:05] <lz05> jamesuk: as root, or sudo <command>
[01:05] <rasputnik> jamesuk: which is (one of) googles ip
[01:05] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes I get a reply from a ping request
[01:05] <nich0s> jamesuk: type sudo in front of it.
[01:05] <rasputnik> jamesuk: telnet is tcp, ping is icmp. they're not the same
[01:05] <Flamekebab> aloha, all, I'll make it quick - I've installed Gallery2 via synaptic, but I haven't the foggiest where the package is installed, a little help?
[01:06] <lupine_85> dpkg -l <packagename>
[01:06] <lupine_85> gives you a list of files installed by the package
[01:06] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yep telnet 64.233.167.99 80 came up as "Connected to 64.233.167.99" but when I press enter I get "Connection closed by foreign host"
[01:06] <lupine_85> no doubt there's a tab in synaptic that does the same thing (I use adept)
[01:06] <rasputnik> jamesuk: that's fine. your dns server is full of shit.
[01:07] <SVisor> jamesuk: If "ping some.ip.number.net" works but "host some.domain.com" does not. THen you network is set up correctly except for the DNS part.
[01:07] <rasputnik> jamesuk: just do a 'host linux.org' to check. bet it says 1.0.0.0
[01:07] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I have the same settings on Windows for DNS and there is no probs there
[01:07] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone know where I can start looking to see why my box wont reboot/shutdown? It hangs at "Will Reboot/Hault Now" .. where it used to click off and stop, or start booting again ..
[01:07] <SVisor> jamesuk: Check with your ISP what the IP of their DNS is and modify resolv.conf accordingly and then try again.
[01:07] <frandavid100> hi guys
[01:08] <frandavid100> could you give me your opinion on this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253343
[01:08] <jamesuk> rasputnik: host linux.org comes up "linux.org has address 198.182.196.48"
[01:08] <Peacefulmunda> hello i need help
[01:08] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me
[01:08] <jamesuk> SVisor: can I not give my router IP as DNS and it will forward to my ISP?
[01:08] <Peacefulmunda>  hello i need help
 can anyone help me
[01:09] <_cerberus_> turns out I hadn't restarted the nfs-kernel server, working now
[01:09] <mooky> jamif its running a dns server it will
[01:09] <_cerberus_> Peacefulmunda, ask and we'll try
[01:09] <rasputnik> jamesuk: ah right! so dns works, but your system isn't configured to USE dns!
[01:09] <rasputnik> jamesuk: you need to look at /etc/nsswitch.conf. tell me what the 'hosts' line says
[01:09] <SVisor> jamesuk: Depends on router (and if its correctly set up). It works for me 192.168.1.1 is my gateway and DNS.
[01:09] <compengi> how can i kill a process in the terminal?
[01:10] <frojnd> I used mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 in hope system will format in ext3, but at the and of the progress was smth like this: Writing inode tables: done
[01:10] <frojnd>  Creating journal (32768 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
[01:10] <frojnd>     This filesystem will be automatically checked every 25 mounts or
[01:10] <frojnd>  180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
[01:10] <rasputnik> SVisor: if host works, dns works. its a name service switch problem.
[01:10] <CromagDK> compengi: kill -9 pid
[01:10] <CromagDK> use ps for overview of processes
[01:10] <frojnd> ps -aux
[01:10] <CromagDK> ah ye
[01:10] <rasputnik> frojnd: that's what it should do. now mount the partition.
[01:10] <jamesuk> rasputnik: hosts line says "hosts: files dns mdns"
[01:11] <lupine_85> frojnd: yep that's an ext3 filesystem
[01:11] <DrZero> bye
[01:11] <frojnd> how can I mouint it
[01:11] <lupine_85> (ext3 is ext2 with a journal)
[01:11] <lz05> jamesuk: does "cat /etc/resolv.conf | grep nameserver" give you any info?
[01:11] <SVisor> rasputnik: Did "host" work? ... did not see that.
[01:11] <frojnd> mnt /dev/sdb1 /home/q/sdb1
[01:11] <frojnd> ?
[01:11] <lupine_85> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /path/to/mountpoint
[01:11] <frojnd> aha
[01:11] <frojnd> tnx
[01:12] <_mason> Gday, Im having this problem with sound in wine "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"
[01:12] <jamesuk> lzo5: it gives "nameserver 192.168.0.100"
[01:12] <rasputnik> lz05, SVisor : DNS works! it's just not using it for name resolution some reason
[01:12] <lupine_85> do you have a sane /etc/hosts ?
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <LoRez> Warning: `Peacefulmunda' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Peacefulmunda> can anyone help me how to configure an ISA client in Ubuntu
[01:12] <Chousuke> Peacefulmunda:  No.
[01:13] <J_P> hi all
[01:13] <ChaosFan> Peacefulmunda: you'll never get help that way
[01:13] <rasputnik> Peacefulmunda: no, and you might as well leave now.
[01:13] <jamesuk> rasputnik: hosts line in nsswitch.conf says "hosts: files dns mdns"
[01:14] <Peacefulmunda> man i am new here
[01:14] <SVisor> rasputnik: Ok... must have scrolled aways before I noted that. "ping 1.2.3.4" - ok, network is running, "host a.b.c" - ok DNS is running, then we have left switching
[01:14] <seshomaru> hello , is there a command that tells me the size of my memeory?
[01:14] <Peacefulmunda> i dont know how to get help
[01:14] <Peacefulmunda> who should i contact
[01:14] <rasputnik> jamesuk: I know, and that should work. you can swap the words 'dns' and 'files' to test?
 i mount it, and when I clik on the partition it says that I don't have the permisson for reading...
[01:14] <Flamekebab> does anyone happen to just know off the top of their head where gallery2 installs? (I'm not at the system right now)
[01:14] <frojnd> I wannt to read and write on that partition
[01:14] <lupine_85> frojnd: stick it in your fstab
[01:14] <lupine_85> man fstab (you want the "user" option)
[01:14] <cardon> http://www.world-la2.ru
[01:14] <cardon> http://www.world-la2.ru
[01:14] <cardon> http://www.world-la2.ru
[01:14] <rasputnik> Peacefulmunda: I've got a screenful of crap from you, so now I'm going to ignore you. most people will do that automatically
[01:14] <nich0s> quickly, I need a music player that will support podcasts
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i am sorry
[01:15] <lz05> Flamekebab: try a whereis on it
[01:15] <rasputnik> Peacefulmunda: see? cardon is doing it too
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i dont even know how to use irc
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i am new here
[01:15] <_mason> Does anyone know what my problem is? Sound + Wine ?
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> i am trying to quite windows
[01:15] <_mason> 'quit
[01:15] <Peacefulmunda> quit**
[01:16] <rasputnik> frojnd: just mount it somewhere, and off you go.
[01:16] <Peacefulmunda> hey rasputnik can u help me
[01:16] <nich0s> Peacefulmunda: Well then I welcome you on behalf of the "group of people who friggin hate windows"
[01:16] <Flamekebab> lz05, I need to find the package, unfortunately, it's not installed on this laptop (and to install it I'd need to download apache, etc. etc..)
[01:16] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: Speak your mind and anyone here can try to help you.
[01:16] <Flamekebab> it's installed on a PC in my office
[01:16] <_mason> Ohh, God do i hate windows
[01:16] <Peacefulmunda> Thanks MAN :D
[01:16] <rasputnik> lupine_85: I think the partition is ext3 now, does he still need 'user'?
[01:16] <Flamekebab> I dislike Windows
[01:17] <_mason> But, Hating windows doesnt solve my sound issue?
[01:17] <nich0s> but it makes you feel all warm inside.
[01:17] <Peacefulmunda> nor does it solves mine
[01:17] <lupine_85> rasputnik: if he wants users to be able to mount it, yes
[01:17] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I swapped dns and files and saved it - do I have to restart the network / computer for it to take effect?
[01:17] <lz05> Flamekebab: ok,...thought you might have found + installed it
[01:17] <lupine_85> jamesuk: no :)
[01:17] <rasputnik> jamesuk: no, just try firefox again
[01:18] <Flamekebab> lz05, it's installed on a machine in the office, but I'm connected to that machine via webmin
[01:18] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: Would you please be specific and tell what problem you have exactly?
[01:18] <Flamekebab> and I'm trying to figure out where the sodding Gallery2 directory is
[01:18] <rasputnik> nich0s: aren't they just mp3s?
[01:19] <morbid88> lupine_85: any chance you can help me out again? I've messed around with the system, and now I've got ipw3945 running, but I can't see a wireless device.
[01:19] <Peacefulmunda> well syouth, my net provider uses ISA server at his end and when i use windows i have to install ISA server client
[01:19] <morbid88> and I can't load the daemon.
[01:19] <nich0s> rasputnik: mp4s.. they like to be difficult.
[01:19] <Peacefulmunda> and he also uses some DHCP thingy
[01:19] <seshomaru> Flamekebab, did you try whereis Gallery2 ?
[01:19] <rasputnik> nich0s: :) mplayer can do them
[01:19] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Nothing again, just stays saying "Connecting to www.yahoo.co.uk"
[01:19] <syouth> ISA?
[01:19] <Peacefulmunda> i can access the provider website but can't open any other website
[01:19] <pitillo> hi good morning, how can I know which ubuntu version I have installed?
[01:19] <Flamekebab> seshomaru, on which system?
[01:19] <lupine_85> morbid88: cool
[01:19] <lupine_85> ok, you need to do the ipw3945d thing
[01:20] <rasputnik> jamesuk: fuck sake! is this a fresh install? because it's hosed!
[01:20] <pitillo> seeing the apt sources?
[01:20] <nich0s> rasputnik: Your personal preference?
[01:20] <Flamekebab> if I do it on this laptop, where it's not installed, I get "gallery2: " and that's it
[01:20] <lupine_85> also check dmesg for errors
[01:20] <SVisor> jamesuk: You might need to restart firefox thou.
[01:20] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes I installed it last night
[01:20] <TheDude> morbid88, haha ya omo
[01:20] <rasputnik> nich0s: it can just do everything
[01:20] <Peacefulmunda> did anyone understand my problem
[01:20] <lupine_85> (Dutchy had a switch that s/he had to flipm then reload the module)
[01:20] <TheDude> morbid88, lo chashavti sheemtza otcha kan
[01:20] <nich0s> rasputnik: FANTASTIC *tackle*
[01:20] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: did u get it?
[01:20] <jamesuk> SVisor: Yes I did restart it, but no good :(
[01:20] <morbid88> Buzi?
[01:20] <TheDude> yes yes yes
[01:20] <syouth> Ok. Something like firewall etc
[01:20] <rasputnik> jamesuk: christ. can you paste /etc/hosts somewhere
[01:20] <lz05> Flamekebab: can you ssh into the remote machine and try whereis?
[01:20] <Peacefulmunda> yes
[01:21] <earthian> hello
[01:21] <iced_boy> ciao
[01:21] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes give me a few mins
[01:21] <nich0s> hi
[01:21] <shedi> TheDude, evrit ?
[01:21] <Flamekebab> lz05, I shall see if I can set up SSH
[01:21] <earthian> i have compiled and installed the new kernel version 2.6.17-11
[01:21] <TheDude> shedi, nu ma...
[01:21] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: i think it acts like a firewall as well
[01:21] <morbid88> lupine_85: how do I set up the daemon? I saw some script lines... but... couldn't quite get it.
[01:21] <pitillo> well, thanks anyway :)
[01:21] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: the ISA server client that is ...
[01:21] <gomek> Anyone here have much experience with customizing the ubuntu install cds?
[01:22] <earthian> however when i boot i get this error: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(0,0)
[01:22] <lz05> Flamekebab: beyond trying that, or being on the physical machine (or having previous knowledge)...I can't think of quick solutions
[01:22] <earthian> anybody know why and how to try fix it?
[01:22] <Peacefulmunda> rasputnik: can u help me now man
[01:22] <ibob63> hi. I am having problem with my routers and think I need to add a new dns server to my linux machine. Can anyone tell me how to set the primary and secondary dns servers on ubuntu?
[01:22] <Flamekebab> lz05, I guess I'll have to find some clothes and wander up to the office then!
[01:22] <zpeef> Ubuntu finds my network card, it has the right ip, and it seem to work. But it can only send packages, not recieve. Both on LAN and WAN
[01:22] <zpeef> Help
[01:22] <Flamekebab> getting dressed sucks..
[01:22] <WindowsUninstall> Hi all
[01:23] <seshomaru> Flamekebab, sorry I think I misunderstood your problem....
[01:23] <syouth> I've never bumped into ISA servers or clients but here is one generic HOW-TO: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Web-Browsing-Behind-ISA-Server-HOWTO.html
[01:23] <rasputnik> earthian: that usually means your disk is unreadable by the kernel. did you setup the right filesystem support?
[01:23] <KyoLptp`> how do I add a new repository to my source.list?
[01:23] <TheDude> how can I set Remote Desktop on ubuntu ?
[01:23] <nich0s> Flamekebab: You have just won the prestigious random award.
[01:23] <KyoLptp`> that is, where is the source.list?
[01:23] <earthian> well yeah :S
[01:23] <rasputnik> KyoLptp`: with a text editor? it's in /etc/apt
[01:23] <k3nobi> hi, sice my ubuntu installation (previously I had gentoo) I get a black screen from time to time after I worked for a while
[01:23] <lupine_85>  morbid88: http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/README.ipw3945d
[01:23] <KyoLptp`> thanks
[01:23] <_mason> Additionaly What is the port i need to open for remote desktop?
[01:23] <earthian> ext3 is enabled in kernel config
[01:23] <Flamekebab> nich0s, being geeky is all about putting in extra effort now to be lazy later
[01:23] <k3nobi> it says sync out of range
[01:24] <lupine_85> download the binary from http://bughost.org/ipw3945/daemon/ipw3945d-1.7.22.tgz
[01:24] <griffith_exo> ibob63: your DNS servers go in /etc/resolv.conf. Primary one goes first.
[01:24] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: I think you could install that "ntlmaps" (with sudo apt-get install ntlmaps) and configure it.. I really don't have a real solution, as I don't know nothing else on the topic. Sorry
[01:24] <lupine_85> k3nobi: compiled in or as a module? :)
[01:24] <rasputnik> earthian: is your rootfs ext3? and it has to be in, not just a module
[01:24] <k3nobi> but I think I configured xorg very well
[01:24] <nich0s> Flamekebab: I have been ip for a long time now... I know what you mean
[01:24] <k3nobi> lupine_85: ??
[01:24] <earthian> hm
[01:24] <earthian> checking
[01:24] <Peacefulmunda> syouth: i am looking at it now
[01:24] <Peacefulmunda> thanks man
[01:24] <lupine_85> erm, sorry. @earthian
[01:24] <lupine_85> d'oh!
[01:25] <ibob63> griffith_exo: thanks. i do I need to restart the network for a change of settings to take effect?
[01:25] <syouth> Good. I'm not really sure, if this is what you need, but go for it...
[01:25] <TheDude> need help - how can I set Remote Desktop on ubuntu ?
[01:25] <rasputnik> ibob63: no
[01:25] <morbid88> lupine_85: it says it can't find the device.
[01:25] <tRSS> how does one access an ftp site over ssl (or commonly known as ftps) in ubuntu?
[01:25] <earthian> :)
[01:26] <lupine_85> morbid88: what step in the readme?
[01:26] <zpeef> Ubuntu finds my network card, it has the right IP, and it seems to work. But it can only send packages, not recieve. Both on LAN and WAN. Could anyone help me out?
[01:26] <morbid88> uh... just executing it first.
[01:26] <syouth> Peacefulmunda: Here is one thread, maybe you can dig some useful information: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-05/3834.html
[01:26] <lupine_85> so "sudo ipw3945d --timeout=-1"
[01:26] <morbid88> lupine_85: sorry. Do I need to deal with the process id at this time?
[01:26] <lz05> zpeef: what info can you get from route?
[01:27] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Hosts files is at http://www.browndogbytes.com/hosts.txt
[01:27] <Otacon22> in wich repository is mplayer?
[01:27] <zpeef> lz05: What is route? I'm a newbie with linux/ubuntu
[01:27] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I could be wrong but could it be an IPV6 issue?
[01:27] <lupine_85> morbid88: just run it as root for now
[01:28] <lz05> zpeef: bring up terminal...type in route
[01:28] <lupine_85> zpeef: it's a table that tells linux where to send internet packets
[01:28] <TheDude> can I set Remote Desktop on my ubuntu, and access it from another computer ?
[01:28] <syouth> route is "The path that network traffic takes from its source to its destination. Also, a possible path from a given host to another host or destination."
[01:28] <rasputnik> jamesuk: are you using ipv6?
[01:28] <lupine_85> if you've only got the one network connection, it's pretty simple :)
[01:28] <jamesuk> rasputnik: No
[01:28] <lupine_85> "ip route show" will give you your current route table
[01:28] <rasputnik> jamesuk: then no :)
[01:29] <ccooke> TheDude: Yes, you can
[01:29] <lupine_85> normally you'd want "sudo ip route add default via <router ip address> dev <interface>"
[01:29] <rasputnik> jamesuk: hosts file is fine. (127.0.1.1 Linux is a bit odd, but shouldn't break anything)
[01:29] <kozmic> I've bought a new drive and wanna move ubuntu over to it. Will this work: both are ext3. Boot from livecd and do so: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda bs=1M;  then fix grub; and put in the new drive so its hda and boot it ?
[01:29] <TheDude> ccooke, 10x. how can I do that?
[01:29] <jamesuk> rasputnik: :) Whats all that in hosts about IPv6 is that all ok if I'm not using it?
[01:29] <lupine_85> kozmic: it probably will work
[01:29] <ccooke> TheDude: You should see configuration under System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[01:29] <SVisor> jamesuk: Yes they are ignored if IPV6 is not used.
[01:29] <rasputnik> jamesuk: it's just there for if you do use ipv6.
[01:29] <lupine_85> but if the drives aren't the same size, it's a bit wasteful
[01:30] <kozmic> lupine_85: hehe, "probably" :P well, ill give it a shot anyone
[01:30] <ccooke> TheDude: if you don't, then there's just a small package you need to install called 'vino'
[01:30] <lupine_85> jamesuk: ipv6 is loaded by default in daper's kernel. it's not a big deal
[01:30] <kozmic> lupine_85: yeah, but i can use expand to resize the new drive afterwards :)
[01:30] <rasputnik> jamesuk: are you sure you don't have to register your machine with the accesspoint somehow?
[01:30] <lupine_85> true enough
[01:30] <SVisor> jamesuk: Check the magic URL "about:config" in Firefox to make sure your not using IPV6
[01:30] <kozmic> lupine_85: then we agree? hehe, if not.. you have any other easy way to do it?
[01:30] <zpeef> Hmm, localnet says "Gateway *" and default says "192.168.2.1" which is my router btw. Localnet has a genmask, but not default
[01:30] <TheDude> ccooke, 10q very much
[01:30] <jamesuk> rasputnik: No, I haven't had to with my Red Hat and SUSE systems
[01:31] <ccooke> TheDude: Ubuntu uses a protocol called VNC for remote desktop. It's not supported by the Windows Remote Desktop application, but it's very well supported otherwise; there are dozens of clients for it
[01:31] <lupine_85> kozmic: personally I'd just mount the two and "sudo cp -a " to the mountpoint
[01:31] <morbid88> lupine_85: I'm now running the 686 kernel. That's the 64bit, right?
[01:31] <TheDude> ccooke, yeah I know vnc
[01:31] <lupine_85> obviously, copying everything but the mountpoint...
[01:31] <lupine_85> morbid88: no
[01:31] <rasputnik> jamesuk: you've got some package installed which is breaking your name resolution in odd ways (just in case you have short term memory loss).
[01:31] <lupine_85> amd64-generic and amd64-k8 are 64-bit
[01:31] <TheDude> ccooke, but I wanted to know if it's possible to do it with rdp as well
[01:31] <morbid88> aaaah. Wait, so I shouldn't be running 686?
[01:31] <kozmic> lupine_85: but i need to keep all symlinks etc correct, will -a do that?
[01:31] <jamesuk> SVisor: In about:config there is a line "network.dns.disableIPv6     default   boolean   false"
[01:32] <rasputnik> jamesuk: dns resolution is fine, but for some reason it's not using dns to resolve names.
[01:32] <lupine_85> kozmic: it's equiv. to dpR, so yes
[01:32] <TheDude> ccooke, btw, if we're talking about it already, do you know what's the diff between rdp and rdp v5 ?
[01:32] <syouth> i686 is generic x86 with advanced instruction set...
[01:32] <nich0s> im geting tired so if my englishstarts getting bad... let me know :P
[01:32] <kozmic> lupine_85: thanks for your help
[01:32] <nich0s> rasputnik: What did you say the name of the player waz?
[01:32] <rasputnik> jamesuk: and this is a *global* problem - not related to firefox
[01:32] <ccooke> TheDude: Not from a feature-level, no
[01:32] <rasputnik> nich0s: mplayer - does all movie formats and most audio too
[01:32] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Its only got the packages that are installed as default - Package Manager won't connected to the web to add any more :)
[01:33] <TheDude> ccooke, oh wait, does it mean that if I use the ubuntu Remote Desktop feature, then I can't connect to it using windows Remote Desktop?
[01:33] <rasputnik> jamesuk: so it's never worked?
[01:33] <zpeef> lz05: Did you see what I wrote?
[01:33] <lz05> zpeef: does it mention both interfaces?
[01:33] <morbid88> lupine_85: I launched it, got a pid, and now I'm waiting. nothing new on ifconfig or iwconfig.
[01:33] <gomek> Anyone here know how to strip everything except for ubuntu-base from the installer cd?
[01:33] <jamesuk> rasputnik: This is the first time I've hooked it up to the network since installation (last night) so no.
[01:33] <ccooke> TheDude: That's what I said, yes
[01:33] <lupine_85> morbid88: try removing and adding the module into the kernel
[01:33] <lupine_85> and check dmesg for any error messages
[01:34] <zpeef> lz05: Both default and localnet are Iface eth0 if that's what you mean
[01:34] <ccooke> TheDude: RDP is a proprietary protocol; I *have* seen a linux server for it, but it's a very, very long way from ready to release
[01:34] <rasputnik> gomek: ubuntu-base is just a metapackage that lists everything else as a dependency
[01:34] <SVisor> rasputnik: Maybe broken symlinks for  /usr/lib/libnss_* ... might they cause this kind of trouble?!
[01:35] <rasputnik> SVisor: sure, but on a stock install??
[01:35] <gomek> rasputnik Along with ubuntu-base's dependencies, of course.
[01:35] <rixxon> how can i stealth my laptop on the ethernet? it responds to echo requests and runs an smtp! *shiver*
[01:35] <morbid88> lupine_85: now I can't get ipw3945 to load again, but the only thing it says is that it can't find the device.
[01:35] <nich0s> rasputnik: do you speak french or spanish?
[01:35] <SVisor> jamesuk: Is this a clean install. Or over something old?
[01:35] <rasputnik> nich0s: a bit, why?
[01:36] <nich0s> rasputnik: all i see is kmplayer ( a warning in case I slip )
[01:36] <jamesuk> SVisor: Clean install - wiped HDD before install - created a partition for XP Pro and one for Ubuntu
[01:36] <TheDude> ccooke, got it. 10x
[01:36] <TheDude> ccooke, can you help in another question I have ?
[01:36] <SVisor> jamesuk: Well this should not happen...Im out of ideas
[01:36] <morbid88> TheDude: this is driving me nuts and making me somewhat unhappy.
[01:36] <rasputnik> nich0s:  you need to enable multiverse
[01:36] <lz05> zpeef: what info about eth0 are you able to get from "ifconfig"
[01:36] <TheDude> morbid88, and what does that might be?
[01:36] <jamesuk> morbid88: Me too!
[01:37] <ccooke> TheDude: I don't know yet...
[01:37] <jamesuk> SVisor: Looks like a re-install is in order?
[01:37] <TheDude> ccooke, :-)
[01:37] <morbid88> jamesuk: you've got the same problem, right?
[01:37] <mathieu> re-install? that sounds like ms windows
[01:37] <rasputnik> jamesuk: sorry mate, it's just bizarre. I'd try a reinstall, yeah. it really shouldn't  be this fucked without some kind of voodoo curse
[01:37] <nich0s> rasputnik: multiverse is in the category of not free and i cheap?
[01:37] <nich0s> i AM cheap
[01:38] <TheDude> ccooke, how can I set a share on my ubuntu, that will be accessable from other computers on my network?
[01:38] <SVisor> jamesuk: Hmm I doubt it will help. It probably breaks the same way. Unless you have some sort of freaky out of space error during install.
[01:38] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Could it just be a bad installation or could my install CD be fucked?
[01:38] <rasputnik> jamesuk: one last thought : is your house built on an ancient indian burial ground?
[01:38] <TheDude> morbid88, you didn't answered my quest...
[01:38] <zpeef> lz05: TX packets:212 errors. Interrupt:9 Base address 0x9800. Also, what is Bcast? It says 192.168.2.255
[01:38] <nich0s> jamesuk: Do you live near a major military installation?
[01:38] <morbid88> TheDude: my wireless issues.
[01:38] <ccooke> TheDude: System -> Admninistration -> Shared Folders :-)
[01:38] <TheDude> morbid88, you should see a doctor about that
[01:38] <SVisor> jamesuk: Do not forget all the needed prayers and sacrifices during install.
[01:38] <rasputnik> nich0s: not free as in 'copyright fascism', it's still free as in 'costs no money'
[01:39] <jamesuk> rasputnik: It could be! :)
[01:39] <lupine_85> morbid88: without knowing why it's not working, it's hard to suggest anything
[01:39] <lupine_85> anything in dmesg?
[01:39] <morbid88> lupine_85: I concur.
[01:39] <nich0s> rasputnik: les potes
[01:39] <morbid88> lupine_85: dmesg just says the same thing... device not found.
[01:39] <jamesuk> nich0s: No I don't think so
[01:39] <rasputnik> jamesuk: try a fresh install, if that doesn't help try the mailing lists maybe (will be easier to post config files)
[01:39] <nich0s> jamesuk: well then just damn it all to hell :P
[01:39] <nich0s> j/k
[01:40] <TheDude> ccooke, hmm.. right, forgot that one. but I do want to learn how to do it, the terminal way.. :-) which means, configuring the samba manually
[01:40] <morbid88> lupine_85: and also disagrees about version of symbol something struct.
[01:40] <jamesuk> Thanks for your help everyone anyway! I'm off to wipe it and try again!
[01:40] <nich0s> jamesuk: Good luck
[01:40] <jamesuk> thanks bye!
[01:41] <nich0s> jamesuk: Don't accidently create a win part this time.
[01:41] <jamesuk> :)
[01:41] <lupine_85> morbid88: argh
[01:41] <nich0s> PIRATES
[01:41] <lz05> zpeef: the interface is currently up with an ip, right (inet addr)
[01:41] <nich0s> :P
[01:41] <morbid88> lupine_85: okay, this is weird. If said "can't find device", and then it did a . . . . . done.
[01:41] <zpeef> lz05: Yeah IP is fine, so is mask
[01:42] <ccooke> TheDude: Google is your friend, there. It would take me a *long* time to explain that here
[01:42] <lz05> zpeef: you don't have a mac address filter on, do you?
[01:42] <Hobbsee> B4zzA-2: see #kubuntu
[01:42] <lupine_85> quick note: you do have the firmware/microcode installed in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/`uname -r`, don't you?
[01:42] <TheDude> ccooke, thought so. no easy shortcuts there :-)  10x again man
[01:42] <zpeef> lz05: If you mean on the router, no. If you mean on Ubuntu, I have no idea. It's a fresh install
[01:42] <morbid88> lupine_85: yes, I do.
[01:43] <lupine_85> ok... can you pastebin the relevant chunk of dmesg ?
[01:43] <morbid88> lupine_85: of trying to install it?
[01:44] <lupine_85> wherever the module is failing to load
[01:44] <morbid88> okay. Pastebin is drop it into the chat?
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> hey
[01:44] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[01:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> has anyone here used mezzo?
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> i've got it installed but the view all programs thing doesnt do anything
[01:44] <lz05> zpeef: yeah..on the router...umm......try bringing up you router's web config, at least to see if you are getting that far
[01:44] <AshyIsMe> and neither does the change background picture button
[01:44] <Otacon22> in wich repository is mplayer?
[01:45] <DarkMageZ> Otacon22, multiverse
[01:45] <zpeef> lz05: The Ubuntu machine doesn't even get a ping from the router
[01:45] <Otacon22> DarkMageZ, yes, but of wich repository?
[01:45] <zpeef> lz05: So it's most likely a hardware/driver issue I'd guess. But I have no idea
[01:46] <mbvo> I'
[01:46] <lz05> zpeef: try doing "ipconfig eth0 down && ipconfig eth0 up && dhclient"
[01:47] <DarkMageZ> Otacon22, that doesn't make sence. but you can find mplayer in the multiverse repository
[01:47] <DarkMageZ> !multiverse
[01:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:47] <lz05> zpeef: I wouldn't think it's the hardware if it's got an interface alias assigned to it
[01:48] <A-L-P-H-A> anyone know how I should go about debuging sound issues?
[01:48] <mbvo> I'm getting an error saying totem could not play 'dvd:///media/cdrom'
[01:48] <morbid88> lupine_85: now i give you this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22911
[01:48] <mbvo> how can i fix this and play a dvd?
[01:48] <lupine_85> yep :)
[01:48] <DarkMageZ> !restrictedformats
[01:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:49] <A-L-P-H-A> I have no sound.  I have a sound blaster live! 24bit, with SPDIF (digital coax) out to my amp.  I have no sound.  Any kind soul able to help me out?
[01:49] <rambo3> !sound > A-L-P-H-A
[01:49] <zpeef> lz05: Command not found, or are these seperate commands?
[01:49] <DarkMageZ> mbvo, see what ubotu said about restricted formats. the answer is in the wiki entre :)
[01:49] <morbid88> lupine_85: and here's the dmesg output for ipw3945: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22912
[01:50] <A-L-P-H-A> rambo3: thanks.
[01:50] <mbvo> it's telling me no URI handler implemented for dvd
[01:50] <lz05> zpeef: ooops! ifconfig..not ipconfig
[01:51] <lupine_85> ok... the two are linked. stuct_module is a core part of the kernel - if it's a different version, the module won't load
[01:51] <zpeef> Siocsifflags: No access
[01:51] <lz05> zpeef: also - yeah...but they should work like a one-liner script
[01:51] <lupine_85> is the module in question - /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/ipw3945.ko - the right one?
[01:51] <ens01mbn> hello, i know this is the wrong channel for this question but, do anyone know where i can ask questions about c programming?
[01:51] <lupine_85> ##c ?
[01:51] <malice>  I just got a new usb PCMCIA card for my laptop, but when I put it in and connect my usb device Ubuntu does not see anything. Anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:51] <morbid88> lupine_85: I just tried again, using ./load in the ipw3945-1.0.0 directory, and it's loaded, it just says, again, that there's no device.
[01:52] <ens01mbn> no ordenary c
[01:52] <morbid88> it says it's also loaded the daemon.
[01:52] <DarkMageZ> mbvo, according to the wiki, the version of gstreamer in dapper doesn't support playing dvds. you could install gxine or totem-xine to get it to work
[01:52] <SVisor> ens01mbn: Just ask.. then we can start flaming you :-)
[01:52] <rambo3> morbid88, depmod -a
[01:52] <lupine_85> morbid88: but did the module load this time round?
[01:52] <morbid88> lupine_85: yes, it seems to have done.
[01:52] <rambo3> sry it doesnt load
[01:52] <DarkMageZ> mbvo, have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats it's a good read
[01:52] <morbid88> it shows up in lsmod
[01:52] <lupine_85> ok, get rid of that other module
[01:54] <morbid88> the one in my lib dir?
[01:54] <lupine_85> as it's useless to you, and is getting in the way
[01:54] <lupine_85> yes
[01:54] <Ackeubu_>  i need too split a vfat drive to get a new boot drive. how do i do that? there is maybe 75% stuffed with stuff to save
[01:54] <lupine_85> then post the new output of dmesg
[01:54] <lupine_85> and let's see why you're not getting an interface
[01:54] <zpeef> lz05: Got SIOCSIFFLAGS: No access
[01:54] <ens01mbn> *s* oki, i have (i think) a pointer to a char[]  with contains numbers. and want to cast to int, how do i do?
[01:54] <SVisor> int w=*(int)ptr;
[01:54] <lz05> zpeef: ok...try each individually as root, or with sudo in front of each
[01:54] <SVisor> oops : int w=*(int*)ptr; is more correct
[01:55] <nich0s> rasputnik: Hey there... I installed the package, now how do I use the proggie?
[01:55] <lz05> zpeef: remember, there is command history. work those arrow keys!
[01:55] <rambo3> bash_history
[01:55] <mathieu> ens01mbn: note that it's non portable code. depends on byte-ordering
[01:55] <morbid88> lupine_85: okay, I've got a new pastebin, I'll explain what you see there. I unloaded the module, saw that it's not in memory, then loaded it again. It gave me an error, but still loaded.
[01:55] <morbid88> lupine_85: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d22914
[01:56] <Kosken> Could someone give me a hand on updating kernel. What command to upgrade?
[01:56] <zpeef> lz05: Ok it seems to be doing something now after running dhclient. But I don't know what
[01:56] <lz05> not everyone uses bash....but i don't know why....
[01:56] <nich0s> zpeef: It's contemplating your demise.
[01:56] <ens01mbn> get error: invalid type argument of `unary *'
[01:56] <lupine_85> ok, can you just dmesg without the |grep ?
[01:57] <lz05> zpeef: good...it's supposed to be getting info from your router about the network configuration
[01:57] <rambo3> morbid88, you do depmod -a after modprobe
[01:58] <finalbeta> anyone else having the problem that evolution can't sync the inbox? got it every two days or something, this product is really buggy and lacks many features thunderbird has :/
[01:58] <lupine_85> rambo3: you do it before a modprobe...
[01:58] <morbid88> ramo3: after I loaded it?
[01:58] <morbid88> rambo3: after I loaded it?
[01:58] <Hoxzer> is it possible to broadcast mic singal via sound server?
[01:58] <morbid88> lupine_85: I dit it before unloading.
[01:58] <lz05> zpeef: try pinging google or something
[01:58] <morbid88> I used modprobe -r
[01:58] <rambo3> morbid88, before
[01:58] <lupine_85> depmod is irrelevent in this situation
[01:58] <lupine_85> we know what the dependencies are, and they're loaded
[01:59] <morbid88> lupine_85: you can see the sequence. It loads. It just doesn't see the hardware.
[01:59] <morbid88> lupine_85: which, I must add, is FAR better than where I was yesterday :-)
[01:59] <ens01mbn> SVisor: didn't see you're correction... now i get a bus error exec the program
[01:59] <zpeef> lz05: No DHCPOFFERS recieved. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[01:59] <lupine_85> morbid88: sorry but I have to go :(
[01:59] <der0b> How do I install a ttf type font?
[02:00] <SVisor> ens01mbn: Does the pointer point into anything? And does it realy contain enought with bytes. int might be 8,16,32 or more bytes.
[02:00] <syouth> der0b: You want MS corefonts?
[02:00] <morbid88> lupine_85: thanks for the help anyway.
[02:00] <der0b> nope.  have a ttf that I want to use
[02:00] <lz05> zpeef: cool! umm...want to statically assign the ip?
[02:01] <SVisor> ens01mbn: bits not bytes... man
[02:01] <zpeef> lz05: Ok, then run dhclient again?
[02:01] <tristan_> hi there, anyone familiar with the 'sed' command?
[02:02] <ens01mbn> SVisor: i've got a char * token = strtok(line, ":"); and if i print the token i get the numbers correctly so i guess token is a pointer to the token?!
[02:02] <Jamminpotato> what is a simple way to find out my localmachine's ip address?
[02:02] <hantoo> ifconfig
[02:02] <lz05> zpeef: "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.100" (ip can be your choosing - preferably with the first 3 sets matching your router's)
[02:02] <ens01mbn> SVisor: and how do i check if enough bits?
[02:03] <SVisor> ens01mbn: Ah thats wrong.. You still have a array of chars.. try "atoi( token )" instead.
[02:03] <nickolass> guys i ve downloaded edgy eft and the md5sum failed, does the installer of ubuntu check the md5 and the cd quality?
[02:04] <nich0s> dapper does
[02:04] <nich0s> so I would assume so
[02:04] <x1nto> guys what do they mean with this ? : -browse to apps>compiz>general>allscreens>options
[02:04] <x1nto> -double click on active_plugins in the options folder
[02:04] <x1nto> -add in each command in the following order
[02:04] <nich0s> believe it would be an option off of the live CD menu
[02:04] <SVisor> nickolass: And even if it does not. There is something wrong with the iso.
[02:05] <x1nto> gconf-editor
[02:05] <ens01mbn> svisor: Yaay... working... but how do i know if it's an array of chars or a string then?
[02:05] <archangelpetro> what lang?
[02:05] <Shoiab> is ubuntu have support US Robotics USR5699B  56k  modem????????
[02:11] <SVisor> ens01mbn: We are so off topic as we can be. Maybe a good C book would be nice.
[02:11] <ens01mbn> svisor: *s* ok, thanks for your help, very thankfull!!!
[02:11] <zpeef> lz05: It has a static ip now. Still no pong from the router nor google.com
[02:11] <SVisor> ens01mbn: In C.. An array of chars terminated with a NULL 0x00 is a string. And thats all from me on this topic.
[02:11] <lz05> zpeef: after that "route add default gw <router ip> eth0" and echo "nameserver <router or other dns server>" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[02:11] <x1nto> can somebody help me with a little compiz problem
[02:11] <Kosken> how to update kernel? :S
[02:11] <x1nto> that I dont understand ?
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: maybe
[02:11] <archangelpetro> compiz?
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: but i think not
[02:11] <x1nto> hi
[02:11] <x1nto> wel
[02:11] <x1nto> its quite stupid
[02:11] <x1nto> :p)
[02:11] <x1nto> youll know it
[02:11] <Shoiab> is ubuntu have support US Robotics USR5699B  56k  modem????????
[02:11] <x1nto> :p
[02:11] <x1nto> jirihavelka:  gconf-editor
[02:11] <SVisor> Shoiab: If its extern COM modem yes.
[02:11] <x1nto> I need to go to
[02:11] <x1nto> and then these 3 steps
[02:11] <x1nto> -browse to apps>compiz>general>allscreens>options
[02:11] <x1nto> -double click on active_plugins in the options folder
[02:11] <x1nto> -add in each command in the following order
[02:11] <lz05> Shoiab: don't think so...i had one...it sucked. I found no linux support anywhere
[02:11] <zpeef> lz05: /etc/resolv.conf: No access
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: what with it, alt-F2, gconf-editor
[02:11] <x1nto> active_plugins ?
[02:11] <x1nto> I dont know what he means with ths
[02:11] <lz05> zpeef: with sudo?
[02:11] <rasputnik> zpeef: sudo
[02:11] <jirihavelka> x1nto: its easy, its GUI
[02:11] <x1nto> I cant dubble click on anythin
[02:11] <zpeef> That's with sudo
[02:11] <Shoiab> ok
[02:11] <Shoiab> its mean no support for it
[02:11] <Shoiab> then what about zoltix smart cobra lite?????
[02:12] <lz05> zpeef: do ls -l /etc/resolv.conf  and check permissions -rx-r--r-- 1 root dhcp...........
[02:12] <Shoiab> what about zoltix smart cobra lite????? is that modem have driver for ubuntu
[02:12] <rasputnik> lz05: root never has to check permissions, it's not that.
[02:13] <stirz> hello :-)
[02:13] <lz05> rasputnik: you know...some things just slip my mind lol
[02:13] <SVisor> Shoiab: Google is your friend. All real modems (not Winmodem) are supported by Linux. How to know which modem is winmode or not. Cant help you there. I do not use modems, but try google for it.
[02:14] <zpeef> lz05: "ls: no such file or directory" "bash: /etc/resolv.conf: No access".... god damn
[02:18] <Shoiab> ok
[02:18] <jirihavelka> zpeef: try: less /etc/resolv.conf
[02:18] <x1nto> jirihavelka:
[02:18] <x1nto> didnt you see my pm ?
[02:18] <jirihavelka> x1nto:  what?
[02:18] <x1nto> anyway
 I did gconf-editor in term
 then I go to the options
 and on the right side
 I can add stuff
 but I dont think I need to add key's
 or am I wrong ?
[02:18] <zpeef> jirihavelka: what is that supposed to do? Now it says "nameserver 192.168.2.1" "domain ubuntu" "(END)"
[02:18] <jamesuk> Hello everyone me again (with the internet problem) remember? :)
[02:18] <SVisor> jamesuk: Does it work now?
[02:18] <jamesuk> SVisor: no, but I have discovered something that may or may not help
[02:18] <jirihavelka> zpeef: in /etc/resolv.conf is DNS
[02:18] <lz05> zpeef: I've never needed more than just the nameserver lines to get the names resolved
[02:18] <rasputnik> jamesuk: holy water!
[02:19] <jamesuk> Svisor: I ran an update from the command line and it updated various things - I can now get secure (https) pages up in Firefox but not normal pages
[02:19] <zpeef> Arg, I give up
[02:19] <zpeef> lz05, thanks for your help :)
[02:19] <jirihavelka> zpeef: only write nameserver ip
[02:19] <jamesuk> rasputnik: I've already ruined 1 computer with that!
[02:19] <lz05> zpeef: is it working?
[02:19] <williswatson> Is Hiweed better than Ubuntu  ?????
[02:19] <rasputnik> jamesuk: yes, but at least its free of vampires now
[02:19] <zpeef> lz05: No doesn't work
[02:20] <rasputnik> williswatson: course it is , that's why we're all using ubuntu
[02:20] <jamesuk> rasputnik: Yes but my laptop smells of garlic now too! :)
[02:20] <SVisor> jamesuk: Someone, somewhere have put an hex on you.
[02:20] <x1nto> alt f2 doesnt do anythin jirihavelka
[02:20] <x1nto> :p
[02:21] <jamesuk> SVisor: Is there anyway of removing the hex? :p
[02:21] <williswatson> rasputnik  u are  using Hiweed   ???
[02:21] <lz05> zpeef: well...not sure what else to try...reset the router perhaps? and then maybe go back to dhcp? whatever...
[02:21] <jamesuk> [anyone] : Is there an inbuilt firewall or something in Ubuntu thats letting me see secure pages but not normal ones?
[02:22] <jirihavelka> x1nto: ehm, in Gnome Desktop its default for run aplication, then write gconf-editor, on left navigate to your path, on right find your key, click right mouse and edit key
[02:23] <zpeef> Nah... I'll be back to Ubuntu once it works for newbies like me. Untill then, I'm going back to XP
[02:23] <SVisor> jamesuk: Beats me. Ask the local voodo priest. Whats different between https and http?!?!
 ubuntu uses a firwall by default called iptables a good frontend to this is firestarter
[02:23] <Kosken> Could someone help me for a second, im a complete newbie. I would like to upgrade to kernel 2.6.17, how to do this? :S
[02:23] <lz05> clear
is it not in the repos
[02:23] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Thanks can I run firestarter from terminal?
[02:23] <fredrin> I've got four ip's and interfaces on my box, eth0, eth0:1 ... eth0:3, I want to use iptables to re-route port 80 on eth0:1 to port 8081. How do I do that? I've used this iptables line on another computer with only eth0. " up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8180" How do I tell iptables to use eth0:1 ?
[02:23] <Kosken> Paddy_EIRE: Don't know :(
[02:23] <lz05> dammit...i was on the wrong track of mind lol...too f-ing tired
youi can run iptables from terminal, firestarter will be a gui sys tray based app
[02:24] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Thanks, where can I get firestarter - its not on any of my menus
do a search on the repos for it and you should be able to install with no prbs from there
[02:24] <gnomefreak> 2.6.17 is not a dapper kernel you would have to build it
[02:24] <SVisor> Paddy_EIRE: Ubuntu does not set up aby rules by default.
[02:24] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: dapper wouldnt have the 2.6.17 and never will
[02:24] <Paddy_EIRE> jamesuk> sudo apt-get install firestarter
you sure
your right oops that will be on edgy i think
[02:25] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: "E: Couldn't find package firestarter"
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: very sure kernels will never be backported and edgy is using the 2.6.17 kernel
??  try searching on synaptic
[02:26] <ubuntu321> hey
[02:26] <Kosken> gnomefreak whats the easiest way to get 2.6.17 on dapper?
[02:26] <SVisor> jamesuk: Anyway "sudo iptables -L" would list all rules. All chains should (and will) say "policy ACCEPT" and no additional rules.
[02:26] <jirihavelka> Kosken: why u need 2.6.17???
 whats the big deal with this kernal anyway?? whats it do that dappers current one does not
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Kosken: build it
[02:26] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: 0 packages listed
[02:26] <Kosken> jirihavelka: bcm43xx drivers
[02:27] <jirihavelka> Kosken: it isnt easy to compile your own kernel
[02:27] <gnomefreak> nothing Paddy_EIRE
thats a weird one thats where i got it from
[02:27] <Kosken> jirihavelka: I can imagine :(
[02:27] <jamesuk> SVisor: All say accept
[02:27] <Kosken> I actually did it once tbh :P
[02:27] <jake> anybody had any luck compiling the latest gnome?
[02:27] <Kosken> it was actually quite easy
[02:27] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: My installation is weird - its hexed aparantely!
[02:27] <Kosken> now I installed ubuntu on my laptop, and cant remember the commands
 ill pastebin my sources.list and then you can try again if you wish
[02:28] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Ok, you might have to tell me how to change sources
kk] 
[02:28] <jirihavelka> How can i cut File, edit etc. from Firefox?
 1 sec
[02:28] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: No probs
[02:28] <jake> Kosken open a terminal and hit tab twice it will spit out every possible command
[02:29] <jamesuk> I am able to look at my bank account through https but not anything through http (very weird)
[02:29] <ubuntu321> Does any1 knw how to change your password in ubuntu?
[02:29] <infidel> i have an issue someone here might be familiar with i just install a printer and i have to push the button on printer to get it to print out
[02:29] <jirihavelka> ubuntu321: passwd nick
[02:30] <fatbrain> err, where do I find cli docs on how to manage my users / groups?
[02:30] <Przemcio78> hi, does anyone here use wengophone?
[02:30] <jake> ubuntu321 sudo passwd for root or system/administration/users and groups for user password
[02:31] <merch> jamesuk, that's hwo it should be. Why do you want to see sensitive info over http?
[02:31] <ubuntu321> cool
[02:31] <ChaosFan> fatbrain: man adduser, man useradd, man addgroup etc...
[02:31] <jamesuk> merch: It will only let me see https pages - http pages won't display at all for some reason
[02:31] <kovztch> slt moi je viens d'arriver et je cherche  intgrer un group
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace everthing in that file with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22917
[02:32] <fatbrain> ChaosFan: Thanks
[02:32] <ChaosFan> fatbrain: np
 Open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace everthing in that file with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22917
[02:32] <agt> !fr
[02:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:32] <jirihavelka> Paddy_EIRE: if you run gui aplication run gksudo !!!
[02:32] <CromagDK> anyone knows if theres a danish Ubuntu Channel somewhere ?
[02:32] <CromagDK> !dk
[02:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[02:32] <CromagDK> ah
[02:32] <kovztch> Slt paddy_EIRE je suis nouveau
[02:32] <CromagDK> :D
[02:32] <agt> :)
yeah your rigth oops
 use gksudo instead of sudo
[02:33] <merch> jamesuk, that's what I'm saying. https is secure, http is not. That's how your bank's site is setup. All transfer of secure information should take place via https.  There is no http in that case.
[02:33] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Do I just type that URL in the file?
 i dont speak frnech sorry
[02:33] <Paddy_EIRE> *French
[02:34] <erUSUL> !fr > kovztch
[02:34] <erUSUL> !fr
[02:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
no
[02:34] <CromagDK> !se
[02:34] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:34] <kovztch> Hello Paddy i am new
[02:34] <Paddy_EIRE> ohh
 then we have a prob....can u accept dcc
[02:34] <jamesuk> merch: Thanks I know that. My problem is that my setup will allow me to see a https site but no http site such as http://www.yahoo.co.uk - it just times out for some reason. :(
[02:34] <Netcad> Hi, is there somebody out there who can give me a hint on the following? I need to search a large directory structure for directories and where ever found delete all files in there.
[02:35] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: I think so
[02:35] <kovztch> Paddy could you help me
[02:35] <Netcad> Directory is .deleted for example
[02:35] <merch> jamesuk, Oh. I thought you were trying to see you banking sit via http. Sorry. :)
[02:35] <jirihavelka> Plz somebody who know how to cut File, edit etc. from Firefox?
be with u in a sec
[02:36] <agt> jirihavelka, you mean cut and paste text? or remove the menu bar?
[02:36] <x1nto> jirihavelka:
[02:36] <jirihavelka> agt: menu bar
[02:36] <x1nto> I was looking for active plugins but the key doenst exist
[02:36] <x1nto> I only have 1 key in it
[02:36] <ubuntu321> wat do you write to change the system/administration/users password? I've changed the root password by typing "sudo passwd"
[02:36] <kovztch> Paddy i am a central african and i don't speak english very well
[02:36] <agt> jirihavelka, try searching for the compact menu extension
[02:36] <x1nto> and there should b allot :/
[02:37] <hantoo> ubuntu321: its either root or users
[02:37] <jamesuk> merch: no probs
[02:38] <hantoo> or not.
[02:38] <daejavu> testing
[02:38] <ubuntu321> hantoo: i have changed the root by going "sudo passwd" so will that change both my root and user login password??
[02:39] <hantoo> that changes root password
[02:39] <merch> jamesuk, what browser? Firefox? Other browsers same problem?
[02:39] <hantoo> to change _your_ password, login to your account and do 'passwd'
[02:39] <ubuntu321> ok
[02:39] <jamesuk> merch: All browsers in Ubuntu
[02:39] <daejavu> Question : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?
james did you accept the file
[02:40] <ubuntu321> hantoo: thank you very uch it worked cya later!
[02:40] <daejavu> Question : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?
[02:40] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: It didn't come up
 are you using xchat-gnome
[02:40] <jamesuk> No I'm on Windoze MIRC
[02:40] <slacker_nl> lo
[02:41] <daejavu> Question : Guyz ,,, cab we use the BlueTooth Device (USB) with the Ubuntu system ?
 did u configure MIRC to accept dcc??
[02:42] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Yes it normally does
[02:42] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Do you want to email me the file?
 yes
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> pm your addy to me
[02:43] <lupine_85> daejavu: I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu here
[02:43] <lupine_85> you might be able to
[02:43] <lupine_85> !bluetooth
[02:43] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
you there....pm your email add to me
[02:45] <daejavu> lupine_85, :D
[02:45] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Just pm'ed it to you - did you get it?
[02:46] <daejavu> lupine_85, do u know how can i use the Bluetooth with the ubuntu system ?
[02:46] <erUSUL> !bluetooth
[02:46] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:46] <eneried> hello
[02:46] <eneried> :)
[02:46] <lupine_85> "that's really useful", I thought
[02:47] <lupine_85> it isn't, though
[02:47] <lupine_85> bluetooth--
[02:47] <xopher> How do I 'clean up' my system? From like unneeded packages etc.
 /join #jamesuk
[02:48] <justin_> xopher: sudo apt-get clean
[02:48] <gnomefreak> xopher: deborphan or to clean cache sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:48] <eneried> I have question. I changed my board and a lot of devices in my computer (last computer was damaged) and i want to put the ubuntu disk in the new machine. How can I upgrade the installation? Doues ubuntu automatically recognize my new hardware?
[02:48] <lupine_85> !gtkorphan
[02:48] <ubotu> gtkorphan: A graphical tool to find and remove orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-1 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 280 kB
[02:48] <justin_> If you mean removing packages, just go to synaptic - and look at what you have installed - note the ones with the Ubuntu logo beside them.. sometimes will mess things up if you uninstall..
[02:48] <daejavu> good the info that was required .. THanks alot guyz :)
[02:48] <xopher> Thanks, that I knew. But I meant like uninstall useless packages that you dont need..
[02:48] <lupine_85> eneried: as lang as you're using the default kernel and your hard drive still has the same logical address, you should be OK
[02:49] <justin_> xopher: Right click - "remove" .. "apply" in synaptic
[02:49] <lupine_85> !gtkorphan > xopher
 you must not be set up right on irc cant seem to pm u or send dcc to u
[02:49] <xopher> One more question, is it safe to remove all -dev packages if you dont plan to compile anything?
[02:50] <lupine_85> xopher: generally yes
[02:50] <justin_> xopher: Pretty much, but if they have the ubuntu logo beside them -- I would let them be..
[02:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Caqn some I send a file to someone here who will then send it to <jamesuk>
[02:50] <xopher> Im switching all my compiling to a chroot env.
[02:50] <lupine_85> hard to make general statements though ;)
[02:50] <eneried> I have the same disk, the same partition, etc, my question is about the hardware, What i have to do? Doues ubuntu automatically find the new hardware?
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss > jack_sparrow
[02:51] <lupine_85> eneried: all the drivers are in the kernel, so it should work fine
[02:51] <nalpha> guys there is a software to print out power point slide but i want to print like 4 slide on 1 page but maximum size... of every slide... ???
[02:51] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Join channel #jamesuk I am on there
[02:51] <justin_> eneried: Yeah
[02:51] <fatbrain> How can I gain access to my other users home folder? I tired chown otheruser:samegroup on homefolder but that didn't help
[02:51] <justin_> Unless you have some strange new alien hardware ;)
[02:51] <xopher> justin_, what does the ubuntu logo stand for?
[02:51] <lupine_85> but if your HD was /dev/hda and now it's /dev/hdc, for instance, you'll have problems
[02:51] <justin_> xopher: Deeply intergrated with the Ubuntu system
[02:51] <xopher> k, thanks
 so am i...?
[02:51] <nalpha> guys there is a software to print out power point slide but i want to print like 4 slide on 1 page but maximum size... of every slide... ??? so not like openoffice just print 4 side but not maximum so every slide show small...
[02:51] <justin_> Sometimes it may even remove "ubuntu-base" and that just screws everything up
[02:51] <eneried> then, I start ubuntu, and I'll wait until ubuntu do the rest of the work. I'm right? It sounds nice :)
[02:52] <vdepizzol> can qt apps simulate my gtk theme?
[02:52] <lupine_85> justin_: doesn't it mean "ubuntu official package"?
[02:52] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: Weird - ok email me on james_kehoe@yahoo.com
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[02:52] <justin_> lupine_85: Not really, you can compile things from source - and they still show up with that logo, it means that the file is somehow tied to the core
[02:52] <jamesuk> Paddy_EIRE: I have to go now but I'll be back on later
[02:52] <eneried> What must I do if sopmething does not work?
[02:52] <justin_> So if you see it and "remove" make sure -- it does not add additional items like ubuntu-core for instance ;)
 the email will be set in a sec
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> later
[02:53] <lupine_85> you mean ubuntu-base ?
[02:53] <justin_> Yeah, base --- forgive me it's early, I just woke up
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> eneried: Explain the problem, what does not work and if it is a device, give hardware details like make, model, chipset
[02:53] <lupine_85> removing xfsprogs will remove ubuntu-base...
[02:54] <lupine_85> ...but I don't need it
[02:54] <justin_> Well what is ridiculous is if you are on XFCE like me for instance, Xubuntu - and you install KDEBASE - you can never uninstall it.
[02:54] <eneried> Ok, then i start ubuntu, and wait until that point after making new questions :)
[02:54] <lupine_85> justin_: you can if you aptitude install it :)
[02:54] <eneried> thanks a lot, boys!
[02:54] <justin_> If you wish to uninstall KDE, it will uninstall ubuntu-base --- that should be fixed later, most likely in edgy, and the icon thing which appears on even non-official packs sometimes.
[02:55] <justin_> lupine_85: That is how I did it
[02:55] <lupine_85> aptitude install --reinstall <package>; aptitude remove --purge <package> might do the trick
[02:55] <lupine_85> oh
[02:55] <justin_> Piece by piece, if I wish to remove it - now I have to remove Ubuntu-base as well
[02:55] <justin_> Perhaps it only applies to Xubuntu
[02:55] <lupine_85> it's a metapackage, so is unimportant surely?
[02:55] <lupine_85> (except for dist-upgrade, anyway)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Make a full backup and blast away..
[02:56] <mikeconcepts> anyone up to helping me? there is a link that plays a streaming mp3 that I don't know what program to use to play http://heliosj.iddings.us:8000/seminolescanner.m3u
[02:56] <justin_> lupine_85: No it tanks Xubuntu --- I tryed it on another machine, freezes and can't find this and that bah! :P
[02:56] <lupine_85> very strange!
[02:56] <eneried> er...what is the comand for dissconect from a chanel?
[02:56] <lupine_85> sounds like b0rked repos to me... ;)
[02:56] <justin_> At least it is only KDE base ;) only 174 --- and I do like KPGP (whatever its real name is)
[02:57] <Nameeater> just the channel? /part #channelname
[02:57] <justin_> lupine_85: Yeah maybe, but keep in mind its XUbuntu and not Ubuntu either..
[02:57] <justin_> So its more of a minimalist sys
[02:57] <lupine_85> true enough
[02:57] <eneried> thanks, Nameeater
[02:57] <eneried> bye
[02:57] <lupine_85> but surely ubuntu-base is the same between the two?
[02:57] <justin_> I do not complain however, I love muh xfce+ubuntu hehe
[02:58] <justin_> lupine_85: Yup, it seems to handle packages differently though
[02:58] <justin_> Others have said the same thing, who use Xubuntu
[02:58] <Neo8750> xubuntu is ubuntu at heart =)
[02:58] <toxic_> Are java jar files in executable in linux ?
[02:58] <lupine_85> ubuntu-base + xubuntu-desktop
[02:58] <justin_> Neo8750: Well of course ;) I would not have it any other way heh
[02:59] <justin_> toxic_: Yes
[02:59] <toxic_> justin_; thanks
[02:59] <justin_> toxic_: As long as you have Java installed that is ;)
[02:59] <lupine_85> hmm. I can't see any kde dependencies...
[02:59] <lupine_85> ...wonder what causes it
[02:59] <toxic_> justin_: naturally :)
[02:59] <justin_> lupine_85: Not sure but I have sent the emails to the Xubuntu people - so we'll see what happens.
[03:00] <mikeconcepts> program for mp3 streaming?
[03:00] <justin_> mikeconcepts: You want to stream, or recieve them?
[03:00] <justin_> listen to them* recieve...
[03:00] <mikeconcepts> justin_:receive
[03:00] <justin_> If you want to send, Icecast
[03:00] <Paddy_EIRE> is there no python channel??
[03:00] <justin_> If you want to recieve and listen
[03:00] <justin_> Xmms
[03:00] <justin_> Paddy, Yes there is but you need to register your nick I believe
[03:01] <Paddy_EIRE> I found this tutorial on google anyone think its any good http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Pqpt65tJ5VEJ:honors.montana.edu/~jjc/easytut/easytut.pdf+Non-Programmers+Tutorial+For+Python+filetype:pdf&hl=en&gl=ie&ct=clnk&cd=1
[03:01] <Neo8750> what init scrip loads tty1 etc.. ??
[03:01] <Neo8750> because i seem to have lost my actual console
[03:01] <rasputnik> Neo8750: /etc/inittab
[03:01] <mikeconcepts> justin_:specifically at this site which is a local police and fire scanner http://heliosj.iddings.us:8000/seminolescanner.m3u
[03:01] <lupine_85> Neo8750: it's all in /etc/inittab. run bt /sbin/init
[03:01] <justin_> Neo8750: Really?, How did you manage that?
[03:01] <justin_> :))
[03:02] <justin_> mikeconcepts: Xmms, you need to set your browsers to MIME type *.pls *.m3u - and associate XMMS with them - and your off.
[03:02] <Neo8750> justin_: i'm runing edgy and after last night i updated and i can't recall the package but it killed my tty1-6 and not gotten them back since hehe
 where do i register my nick
[03:02] <justin_> Neo8750: Ahh your the explorer ;P
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !register
[03:03] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:03] <mikeconcepts> justin_:thanks, I'll wrap my brain around that for a while
[03:03] <justin_> Paddy_EIRE: You need to msg NICKSERV and issue some commands, I forget what they are ---- /MSG NICKSERV HELP
[03:03] <justin_> mikeconcepts: It's simple :P same way as windows
[03:03] <justin_> Or so im told.. :P
 is there no website where i can do this
[03:04] <justin_> Paddy_EIRE: Nope not to my knowledge
[03:05] <xopher> lupine_85, thank you for the gtkorpan tip, really helps 
[03:05] <Neo8750> hmmm
[03:05] <lupine_85> :)
[03:06] <justin_> Does anyone have a Radeon card?
[03:06] <Neo8750> well there in the file only thing i could see as being wrong is it was set defualt run level was 2 and should be 5 right?  or am i just remebering differnt distro?
[03:06] <W_McL> justin_: yes, why?
[03:06] <justin_> Has anyone tryed playing with the "radeon" driver options, such as "AccelMethod" "EXA" "EnablePageFlip" "1" <---? Have they been able to measure any true performance increase?
[03:06] <xopher> lupine_85, just hope I dont get too excited removing things :D sooner or later Ill be using only the terminal from a gentoo chroot :P
 do i enter the commands from in here
[03:06] <mcphail> Neo8750: runlevel 2-5 are the same thing
[03:06] <lupine_85> lol
[03:06] <lupine_85> portage++
[03:07] <justin_> Paddy_EIRE: No from the server window
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ik
[03:07] <W_McL> justin_: didn't try it, sorry
[03:07] <lupine_85> default runlevel for ubuntu is 2
[03:07] <Neo8750> mcphail: hmm well it doesn't make sense why i have no console then
[03:07] <justin_> W_McL: It's ok
[03:07] <justin_> Neo8750: Evolution man
[03:07] <justin_> :)
[03:07] <lupine_85> Evolution--
[03:08] <Neo8750> i don't want to evolv i like mt cli
[03:08] <Netcad> Is there something like a rmdir -R?
[03:08] <justin_> hehe
[03:08] <mcphail> Netcad: rm -rf
[03:08] <lupine_85> Netcad: rm -rf
[03:08] <Neo8750> Netcad: rm -rf
[03:08] <lupine_85> snap
[03:08] <lupine_85> crackle
[03:08] <justin_> pop
[03:08] <Neo8750> pop?
[03:08] <justin_> :D
[03:08] <lupine_85> no pop
[03:08] <justin_> Bang
[03:08] <justin_> ?
[03:08] <lupine_85> only a snap and a crackle
[03:09] <justin_> Indeed, Ubuntu does not need any stinking pop.
[03:09] <justin_> Another Justin???
[03:09] <justin_> Interesting
[03:09] <justin_> :D
[03:10] <Neo8750> ooo i just discovered
[03:10] <Neo8750> my consoles aren't missing i just can't see any text on them
[03:10] <Neo8750> because i tried loging in and makeing dir and it worked
[03:10] <justin_> You must feel silly
[03:11] <Neo8750> not really i mean it had a blinking cusour and all
nice one all registered
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[03:11] <holzmodem> im try to use IrDA, log tell me irda is successfull identified, and started, but i didnt receive any packet from irdadump.... one entry in the log saith >>  could not open /var/run/irattach.pid: Permission denied
[03:12] <vdepizzol> How can I install my Saa7133 capture device?
[03:12] <justin_> Paddy ;D
[03:13] <Kosken> :S why does it say that /usr/src/linux doesnt exsist when I can even see it when going to /ust/src and doing dir?
[03:13] <Kosken> usr
[03:13] <Kosken> *
[03:13] <slacker_nl> Kosken: permission issues I guess
[03:14] <Kosken> well, it should say permission denied?
[03:14] <slacker_nl> ok, good point :)
[03:14] <Neo8750> sounds like a good old splash problem
[03:15] <holzmodem> Kosken, why i installed an configure it with sudo
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> would someone check and see if their  gnome-art  program is working at this time? getting an error.. and i think its due to the gnome art web site being down
[03:15] <Kosken> trying to compile kernel 2.6.17
[03:15] <Kosken> though that would be quite hard if I cant get into linux dir :P
[03:16] <xopher> Whats a good textbased app with which you can monitor bandwidth with, expect iftop?
[03:16] <rasputnik> Kosken: it's probably a broken symlink
[03:18] <Kosken> rasputnik I think I found the problem actually :P
[03:19] <Neo8750> got console back
[03:19] <tourach> xopher: iptraf
[03:19] <xopher> tourach, thanks Ill give it a look
[03:19] <malice> What is the best program to use with a ipod. I want to add files and also get podcast. Gtk pod is nice but I can not figure out how to add pod casts to it
[03:20] <lupine_85> !best
[03:20] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:21] <Kosken> bah
[03:21] <Kosken> what was command to get build-essential package?
[03:21] <rasputnik> Kosken: apt-get install ?
[03:22] <Kosken> rasputnik: yeh but claims to be missing :O
[03:23] <rasputnik> Kosken: weird -  it's in the main repo
[03:24] <Kosken> rasputnik: well it said, "package build-essential isnot available, but is reffered to by another package
[03:24] <oem> hi all...i need help regarding including my floppy disk drive in the fstab file..i didn't find it there and it's not getting detected either...kindly help
[03:25] <Defunk> hi im new 2 linux, how do i run ".run" files from the terminal? (i tried "sudo ./applocation/appname.run")
[03:25] <hantoo> monitor goin off in certain time, how do i turn that off?
[03:25] <rasputnik> Defunk: where did you get it from?
[03:25] <Defunk> get what?
[03:25] <Defunk> the file?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> oem,  you could always mount it manually
[03:26] <rasputnik> Defunk: yes
[03:26] <Defunk> it's a driver for my ATi gfx card
[03:26] <Defunk> got it from the ATi main webbie
[03:26] <oem> how can i make my drives automount??
[03:26] <rasputnik> Defunk: doesn't it come with instructions?
[03:26] <mcphail> Defunk: you will need to make it executable
[03:26] <mcphail> Defunk: chmod +x file.run
[03:26] <Defunk> oh :)
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> oem,  automounting a floppy disk can be a pain.
[03:27] <Defunk> ok
[03:27] <Defunk> sec
[03:27] <oem> thanx
[03:27] <Defunk> now what?
[03:28] <mcphail> Defunk: execute it, as you were doing above
[03:28] <rasputnik> Defunk: now you can run it
[03:28] <Defunk> thx a lot guys! :D
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> oem,  hmm - its showing up under Places/Computer/Floppy for me.. and i dont have an entry in the fstab for the floppy.
[03:28] <Defunk> just out of curiousity - why did i need 2 run the 1st cmd on it?
[03:29] <mcphail> Defunk: google for "unix permissions"
[03:29] <Defunk> kk
[03:29] <oem> owe...can it be fixed?
[03:29] <mcphail> Defunk: it's a security thing
[03:29] <Defunk> ye figured it out :P
[03:30] <Defunk> thx anyway for the help m8
[03:30] <mcphail> np
[03:30] <rasputnik> oem: have you got a line like this in /etc/fstab?
[03:30] <rasputnik> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:31] <oem> there's no entry in the fstab file
[03:31] <rasputnik> oem: well put it in then :)
[03:31] <oem> i've checked my fdisk connection also
[03:32] <oem> thanx ...do i've to mount it every time i boot? how can i make it automount?
[03:32] <kozmic> lupine_85: I did a cp -a, worked perfectly. running on my ny hdd now :)
[03:33] <rasputnik> oem: you'd have to google - noone i know uses flopies anymore
[03:33] <oem> ;) thanx
[03:34] <gomek> How do I get a .deb package from the repo into my home directory?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> oem,  i dident need an entry in the fstab.. it showed up under places/computer/Floppy disk
[03:34] <mcphail> gomek: why do you want to do that?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> oem,  i then right click on it to 'mount' the drive. if you make a fstab entry - then that will override the default gnome mounting system
[03:35] <billytwowilly> what's the command to use instead of make install if I want to make a deb instead?
[03:35] <mcphail> gomek: if you just want to install the file, use synaptic or apt-get
[03:35] <mcphail> billytwowilly: install checkinstall
[03:35] <gomek> mcphail I don't want to install it.  I want to tear it apart.
[03:35] <billytwowilly> thanks mcphail I can never remember that;)
[03:35] <mcphail> gomek: then just browse the repo with a web browser
[03:36] <gomek> mcphail sounds good
[03:36] <mcphail> gomek: of course, if you install it there should be a local copy in the cache
[03:36] <gomek> mcphail nah, it's not installed
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !dpkg
[03:37] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[03:38] <Defunk> another question guys: ive installed the ATi driver and in the end of the installation it notes that "it is important 2 save ur X WIndow config file, and then write aticonfig....
[03:38] <Defunk> "
[03:38] <rasputnik> gomek: man apt-get - you want the 'apt-get source' command
[03:38] <Defunk> how do i save my X Window config file?
[03:38] <rasputnik> Defunk: understood - but if the 'magic' gnome stuff is b0rked he doesn't have  a lot of options
[03:38] <paul___> how can I add items to my CLASSPATH?
[03:38] <martin__> hi everyone. I need serious help, my xserver went the way of the pear this morning and I keep seeing the error "unable to load plugin: gconf", so I have reformatted and reinstalled ubuntu because no one would help me but the problem is still here, a little help?
[03:39] <rasputnik> Defunk: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /some/where/else
[03:39] <Defunk> rasputnik: what uve just said doesn't tell me anything ^^
[03:39] <sproingie> paul___: don't set CLASSPATH globally, use -cp when invoking java
[03:39] <Defunk> oh ok
[03:39] <jayteeuk> Defunk: Your X config file is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf so... yeah, what rasputnik just said. :D
[03:39] <Defunk> =P
[03:40] <sproingie> The Way of The Pear.  i wonder if that's a comment on PHP :p
[03:40] <paul___> sproingie: I need to add items to classpath cuz I need to use a dependency for one of the programs i need to run...
[03:40] <paul___> sproingie: maybe that doesnt make sense?
[03:41] <Defunk> rasputnik:  im getting a "permission denied" error
[03:41] <sproingie> paul___: then do java -cp /path/to/classes:/another/path:/and/so/on
[03:41] <rasputnik> paul___: that's fine, you're using the java command to start an app anyway, just add a '-cp' flag
[03:41] <gomek> mcphail thanks for the help!  ^^
[03:41] <sproingie> paul___: setting classpath globally will cause you much suffering later
[03:41] <paul___> sproingie: is that permanent or temporary?
[03:41] <gomek> rasputnik it's not really the sources I want, but thanks anyway
[03:41] <sproingie> paul___: it's for that one time you run it
[03:42] <paul___> sproingie: are those colons or semicolons?
[03:42] <rasputnik> Defunk: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[03:42] <sproingie> paul___: colons
[03:42] <sproingie> paul___: you'd use semicolons on windows
[03:42] <paul___> sproingie: kk thanks I'll try that
[03:43] <rasputnik> gomek: then use the '-d' flag (download only)
[03:43] <krang> anyone got a recommendation for a good program to extract an ISO file?
[03:44] <sproingie> mount
[03:44] <rasputnik> krang: what, to create one, or to read it?
[03:44] <mjr> krang, sudo mount -oloop -tiso9660 file.iso /where/to
[03:44] <krang> rasputnik: to extract the file to a directory
[03:44] <sproingie> mount it then copy it
[03:44] <mjr> then just copy stuff out if you want it out
[03:44] <krang> mjr: ooh, methinks that'll do the trick. Thanks!
[03:44] <mjr> sudo umount /where/to when you're done
[03:45] <sproingie> gnome should have iso automounting built in
[03:45] <Defunk> ok thx again rasputnik :P
[03:45] <sproingie> dunno if it does, but it sure should
[03:45] <mjr> sproingie, it would be nice if it'd be make easy, yes
[03:45] <sproingie> could use fuse to not even need root
[03:46] <sproingie> heck all filesystems should use fuse.  userspace is faster
[03:46] <sproingie> can't really use threads in kernel mode
[03:46] <mjr> well you can
[03:46] <sproingie> yeah with much agony
[03:46] <mjr> but I am a proponent of userspace filesystems (and microkernels ;)
[03:46] <mjr> and yes, fuse for mounting image files would seem to me a good solution, but is there fuse iso support yet?
[03:46] <sproingie> kernel allocator is also primitive, userspace malloc is much faster
[03:47] <sproingie> tho for filesystems with fixed blocks i dont suppose it matters
[03:47] <krang> mjr, rasputnik: if you mount an ISO file, can you add a couple of files and unmount it, then burn it?
[03:48] <mjr> krang, no, you can't
[03:48] <sproingie> you dont need to mount an iso file to burn it
[03:48] <krang> mjr: curses
[03:48] <sproingie> with recent kernels you can burn with dd
[03:48] <rasputnik> krang: sadly not - would be nice, wouldn't it?
[03:48] <krang> sproingie: I know, I want to edit it then re-burn. No big deal, 5 minutes lost.
[03:48] <mjr> ISO is pretty much a write-once filesystem
[03:48] <krang> rasputnik: I know :-(
[03:49] <sethk> krang, you have to extract to a normal file system, add the files, and create a new iso
[03:49] <mjr> (multisessions aside, but those need to be just that, multisession)
[03:49] <sproingie> krang: iso mount is not writable, it packs the files with pretty much no room.  you'll want to just burn a data cd with mkisofs or some gui thing like gnomebaker or k3b
[03:49] <Neo8750> so that the new name begins with a 'K' and a two-digit number, where the
[03:49] <Neo8750> number is the difference between the two-digit number following the 'S'
[03:49] <sproingie> personally i can't recommend k3b enough
[03:49] <Neo8750> in its current name, and 100.
[03:50] <Neo8750> say its S25
[03:50] <Neo8750> whats the new one? K75 ?
[03:50] <krang> sproingie: mkisofs is fine by me. none of this namby-pamby button clicking :-)
[03:50] <infidel> anyone know where i an get the lotus notes zip file?
[03:50] <sproingie> krang: eh, i like brainless tasks like burning to have brainless interfaces
[03:51] <wgato> anyone suggest a program that i can run from the commond line to convert a mp3 from 1 bitrate to another?
[03:51] <kishore> can i hav xgl... in xubuntu
[03:51] <krang> sproingie: lol, fair point.
[03:51] <gnomefreak> kishore: yes please join #ubuntu-xgl
[03:51] <kishore> gnomefreak, jus.. joined
[03:52] <gnomefreak> i saw
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> krang: http://www.livedistro.org/taxonomy/term/376?PHPSESSID=fcca24dbaf9c3e986ec2c0e2a6bcc9e1  script to remaster a live cd
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> krang: The author is a user here and I halped with the original beta testing, rough edges but it gets the job done
[03:53] <krang> Jack_Sparrow: Sweet! Thanks dude!
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:54] <gan|y|med> hello
[03:54] <gan|y|med> any gimp gurus here (have tried #gimp)?
[03:55] <gan|y|med> can anybody help me with step 4 of http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/justin1/
[03:55] <vdepizzol> my SAA7133 tv turner is not working. What I do?
[03:56] <tRSS> how can I download a folder (and all its contents) from a remote ftp site from bash, such that it is resumble as well (like what wget does)?
[03:57] <mcphail> tRSS: use wget?
[03:57] <tRSS> how to?
[03:58] <mcphail> tRSS: i'm maybe not understanding your question, but wget is quite capable of downloading from ftp
[03:58] <tRSS> how do add login credentials to wget?
[03:58] <jay_> What is Unix and linux, and their relationship?
[03:59] <kozmic> tRSS: have you seen at wget --help ?
[03:59] <mcphail> tRSS: that is clearly documented in the man page
[03:59] <tRSS> alright let me
[03:59] <erUSUL> jay_: linux is unix-like OS. You can not call linux a UNix becouse Unix is a TM of opengroup or someone else
[04:00] <mcphail> tRSS: i hate saying "RTFM", but it would have saved you some time on this occasion
[04:00] <sproingie>  actually linux passed unix certification some years ago
[04:01] <mjr> jay_, yeah, what erUSUL said. For the bulk of any practical purposes, GNU/Linux is an Unix OS though.
[04:01] <sproingie> it never applied for SUS tho.  i don't know if anyone ever has
[04:01] <tRSS> mcphail: i was just kiddin' man. just felt being shouted at again, i.e. RTFM!!! lol, that was good
[04:01] <mcphail> tRSS: :)
[04:01] <erUSUL> sproingie: yes a version of linux (a Caldera now SCO) pased the cert but linux changes so fast that it does not make sense to cert it
[04:02] <oscar8x> hi
[04:02] <sproingie> linux is the standard commercial OS's are targeting at API and ABI level anyway
[04:03] <sproingie> erUSUL: i remember linux booting with some line about POSIX certification.  i think it was suse actually
[04:03] <LookTJ> POSIX?
[04:03] <sproingie> !posix
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about posix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <sproingie> ubotu: you suck
[04:03] <LookTJ> i havent heard that sine editing the registry in xp
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <LookTJ> since*
[04:04] <LookTJ> !POSIX
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about POSIX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <LookTJ> stupid bot
[04:04] <sproingie> posix was the standard for unix system level interface
[04:05] <sproingie> the term was coined by none other than RMS
[04:05] <sproingie> now it's called Single Unix Specification
[04:05] <erUSUL> sproingie: yes lionux is posix but so is windows too (the minimum posix necesary to comply with USA federal regulations)
[04:05] <nosse> I'm trying to install screem, but I have no idea how it should happen
[04:05] <fyrestrtr> nosse: sudo apt-get install screem
[04:05] <erUSUL> nosse: sudo apt-get install screen
[04:06] <sproingie> erUSUL: they dropped the posix subsystem, replaced it with SFU
[04:06] <nosse> tryed that, it didn't work
[04:06] <erUSUL> !repos > nosse
[04:06] <erUSUL> !repos
[04:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:06] <MetaMorfoziS> !cvscedega
[04:06] <fyrestrtr> nosse: enable multiverse and universe repositories, and then try again.
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvscedega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <MetaMorfoziS> !cedega
[04:06] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:06] <sproingie> erUSUL: posix was actually a subsystem that was theoretically on equal footing with win32, not implemented on top of it.  in reality it was always junk
[04:06] <sproingie> er nt's posix that is
[04:07] <jay_> How can i design Graphic User Interface programs under Linux? Just like windows' MFC, what kind of tools I can use?
[04:07] <sproingie> pretty sure the whole "subsytem" architecture is gone from vista
[04:07] <fyrestrtr> jay_: gtk or qt
[04:07] <fyrestrtr> jay_: and, java of course.
[04:08] <Farrier> Question: So I tried to upgrade breezy to dapper, now it won't boot ("Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2)"). I don't have any boot disks, just the install CD for breezy. Any idea how I should go about fixing it?
[04:08] <sproingie> gtk, qt, wxwidgets, java.  personally i recommend the last two
[04:08] <sproingie> netbeans makes java guis that are actually purty
[04:08] <nosse> erUSUL: that !repos > nosse worked fine, ubotu openes a private window
[04:08] <fyrestrtr> !grub > Farrier
[04:08] <erUSUL> jay_: first choose your widget lib gtk (gnome) qt (kde) or wxwidgets...  then the language you want to use c c++ python....
[04:09] <sproingie> i would choose the language then see what toolkit is least painful for that language
[04:09] <erUSUL> nosse: good screen is in universe afaik
[04:09] <Farrier> Thanks, fyrestrtr :)
[04:09] <Nebb> hi there - I was wondering if it's possible to use an ipod as a hard drive on which to install ubuntu (6.06 LTS) - the catch is my BIOS doesn't support booting from USB...
[04:09] <erUSUL> !info screen
[04:09] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 566 kB, installed size 976 kB
[04:09] <sproingie> choosing a language is a great source of analysis paralysis tho
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> Nebb: no, you can't do that, even if it did boot from usb.
[04:10] <Nebb> why not?
[04:10] <erUSUL> nosse: screen is in main you should have been able to install it without enabling universe nor multiverse
[04:10] <fyrestrtr> Nebb: because, ipod's don't work like that.
[04:10] <sproingie> people have used ipods as external hdd's
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: that's not what I meant.
[04:11] <sproingie> which seems like a mighty expensive way to have an external HDD
[04:11] <Nebb> it's all I have ATM.
[04:11] <seshomaru> hello , hoe do i extract a tar.gz file thru the terminsl?
[04:11] <fyrestrtr> seshomaru: tar xvzf filename.tar.gz
[04:11] <sproingie> it's non-trivial and like fyrestrtr said, you probably cant boot from it anyway
[04:12] <erUSUL> seshomaru: tar xvzf file.tgz
[04:12] <Nebb> bugger.
[04:13] <seshomaru> fyrestrt1, erUSUL  how do I direct the output to /var/lib/tftpboot?
[04:13] <seshomaru> i mean i want6 to extract it to that dir
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> seshomaru: cd /var/lib/tftpboot first
[04:13] <erUSUL> seshomaru: tar xvzf file.tgz -C /path/to/dir (iirc check the man page)
[04:14] <nosse> erUSUL: I'm speaking of screem, not screen
[04:14] <fyrestrtr> nosse: I told you already, enable multiverse and universe, then install it from synaptic or by using apt-getl
[04:14] <erUSUL> nosse: dohh :(
[04:14] <erUSUL> !info screem
[04:14] <ubotu> screem: A GNOME website development environment. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2051 kB, installed size 7672 kB
[04:14] <seshomaru> fyrestrt1, , erUSUL  thank you... (will check man page...)
[04:14] <nosse> fyrestrtr: Im just reading those links
[04:15] <erUSUL> nosse: it is main too... can you post the error you are getting to a pastebin??
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> nosse: are you on dapper or something else?
[04:15] <nosse> dapper
[04:15] <nosse> and using gnome
[04:16] <nosse> and I loaded some package from sourceforge
[04:16] <sproingie> how's edgy these days ... stable enough for everyday?
[04:16] <fyrestrtr> nosse: then just type 'sudo apt-get install screem' at the terminal.
[04:17] <gubluntu> how do i connect to another system over serial.. its all plugged in on com1?
[04:17] <erUSUL> !edgy
[04:17] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !schedule
[04:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:18] <nosse> ok, now its working, I first tryed "sudo apt-get install screem-0.16.1", and it didn't find it
[04:18] <erUSUL> gubluntu: how do you want to connect SLIP or serial terminal?
[04:18] <fyrestrtr> sproingie: no, not for everyday use.
[04:18] <nosse> thanks :)
[04:18] <gubluntu> !slip
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <gubluntu> !SLIP
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SLIP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <gubluntu> serial terminal?
[04:19] <selinuxium> nosse: type apt-cache search screem     and see what comes out. then uese that to install
[04:19] <erUSUL> gubluntu: use minicom or screen and a null modem cable
[04:19] <erUSUL> gubluntu: you have to enable serial login in the system you are connecting to
[04:19] <selinuxium> nosse: it will probably be    sudo apt-get install screem    to install it.
[04:20] <erUSUL> gubluntu: i do not remember all the details please search google for a how to
[04:20] <james296> How can I uninstall DC++ that was in Automatix? I cant seem to uninstall it for some reason
[04:20] <gubluntu> its enabled
[04:20] <fyrestrtr> james296: #automatix is where you want to ask that.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: Might be a good question for #Automatix
[04:20] <james296> ok thank you
[04:21] <selinuxium> !automatix > selinuxium
[04:22] <fyrestrtr> selinuxium: /msg ubotu automatix ;)
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> selinuxium: We were not trying to be rude to him.  But it gets tiring fixing systems that #Automatix had messed up. Which is why it is NOT recommended
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: Thanks.. I had not thought to do it that way..
[04:23] <xopher> how long does it on avg. take to create a pbuilder env. ?
[04:23] <james296> well theres like no one responding in that room and hardly anyone in it...
[04:24] <guillem101> hmm, compiz does not find gconf plugin anymore with the new update... any clues?
[04:24] <sproingie> the automatix guy should just start his own distro
[04:24] <james296> LOL
[04:24] <james296> it does improve Ubuntu dramatically though
[04:25] <sproingie> so does doing it right
[04:25] <james296> what?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: And it works 95% of the time.. sounds good until you figure 1 in 20 do wrong
[04:25] <bXi> can somebody here recommend a way to print 1 (huge) image accross multiple pages
[04:25] <kozmic> i do it manually, ive had too many weird things happen with automatix
[04:25] <selinuxium> fyrestrt: Jack_Sparrow: i can assure you that !automatix > selinuxium works to send a private message to me detailing what the bot has to say! :) I wasn't being funny!
[04:25] <gubluntu> !automatix > gubluntu
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> guillem101: great question for #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl :)
[04:25] <fyrestrtr> bXi: file > print in gimp?
[04:25] <kozmic> !automatix > kozmic
[04:26] <james296> this really annoys me...
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> selinuxium: I agree but fyrestrtr's way means no one even needs to see !Whatever > You
[04:26] <james296> I cant find DC++ ANYWHERE in Synaptic...
[04:26] <MetaMorfoziS> what does this mean? :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22927 i'm isntalled call of duty with loki installers...
[04:27] <gubluntu> guillem101, 'compiz-start' in terminal to start, 'csm' to configure
[04:28] <selinuxium> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I see that. It was the way I used to do it anyway! But I suppose that way other helpers can see what has been sent to other people. I wont use it for myself...
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np I do it for others as well...  I learned alot watching how the bot responds
[04:29] <bXi> fyrestrtr: somehow i dont even have a print command :/
[04:30] <fyrestrtr> bXi: installed a printer?
[04:31] <nosse> selinuxium: It allredy worked
[04:31] <bXi> yeah
[04:31] <erUSUL> bXi: my best bet is to try with gimp....
[04:31] <selinuxium> nosse: cool! :)
[04:32] <nosse> would someone like to recommend some other html editor?
[04:32] <bXi> erUSUL: and guess where i dont have a print command :p
[04:32] <bXi> nosse: what do you use?
[04:32] <gubluntu> !nvu
[04:33] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[04:33] <sproingie> nvu is okay if you can deal with the horrible bugs
[04:33] <nosse> well, mostly I have used pico, but I have tested notepad++ for windows and it seemed really nice
[04:33] <bXi> for kde you have quanta\
[04:33] <bXi> which is nice
[04:34] <sproingie> actually come to think of it, nvu's not okay, i switched back to emacs
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> nosse: scite, screem, gvim, quanta, mozilla composer, nvu.
[04:34] <nosse> thanks
[04:34] <sproingie> worked ok for quickly slapping something together that i fixed with emacs tho
[04:34] <erUSUL> bXi: have you instaled all the gimp-print stuff?
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> oh, and cream too
[04:35] <LookTJ> anyone help with video card?
[04:35] <LookTJ> it's a ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
[04:35] <erUSUL> bXi: 'sudo apt-get install gimp-print'
[04:35] <bXi> i'll try that
[04:35] <LookTJ> i  need to install my ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 video card
[04:36] <sproingie> still hard to beat dreamweaver.  i wish adobe put out a "lite" version for, say $100 or so
[04:36] <erUSUL> LookTJ: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose the radeon or ati driver
[04:36] <LookTJ> k ill try
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I wold like to stress the importance of backups no matter what system you run.  Especially before making big changes... One line in CLI will save you lots of time and frustration
[04:37] <fyrestrtr> !ati > LookTJ
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !Patience > LookTJ
[04:37] <bXi> hmmm
[04:37] <bXi> i dont see special settings in gimp print which might help me
[04:38] <LookTJ> jack_sparrow: you didnt need to do that
[04:38] <nosse> I have tryed emacs, but it doesn't zoom, it colors the code but even gedit colors it better. with notepad++ you can hide parts of code and that is somethig I haven't seen any other program would do
[04:38] <bXi> nosse: try quanta
[04:38] <bXi> it highlights and allows you to hide bits
[04:39] <aurelienm> hi, I'm looking for the official ubuntu-ppc channel. Where is it ? Thanks
[04:39] <sproingie> any scintilla-based editor will do folding
[04:40] <LookTJ> brb
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: You could crop it up into howver many pieces or pages...
[04:40] <LookTJ> rebooting
[04:41] <bXi> Jack_Sparrow: i was hoping there was a solution for this
[04:41] <abriceno> Hi, anyone can tell me how do i do to install flash plugin in firefox in ubuntu? when i enter in a page that has flash, firefox shows me an option to install plugins, but when i clic on it, the buttons doesn't show up well.. any ideas?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bXi: I have seen it in windows but not in Linux.. Though there is probably one out there.
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> !flash > abriceno
[04:42] <knox_> abriceno, download from flash homepage
[04:42] <mbvo> is it possable to mount an ntfs hdd in ubuntu?  if so how do i do it?
[04:43] <knox_> When my firefox asked for it, I just followed the link it gave me, downloaded the file, extracted it and followed the instructions.
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > mbvo
[04:43] <gubluntu> !ntfs > gubluntu
[04:43] <Neo8750> does it message you it?
[04:44] <erUSUL> gubluntu: better do /msg ubotu ntfs and ask the bot in the pm window
[04:44] <Neo8750> !ipod > Neo8750
[04:44] <Neo8750> fancy that
[04:45] <Linuturk_code> !pda > Linuturk_code
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <A-L-P-H-A> Is there a way to upgrade firefox to 1.5.0.6?  I found where it is /usb/lib/firefox... but there's symbolic links, which I don't how or if I should maintain them.
[04:45] <albiiiiiiii> hi everybody!!!!!
[04:45] <Paddy_EIRE> hi
[04:45] <albiiiiiiii> hi paddy
 whats up?
[04:46] <albiiiiiiii> could you help me please???
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> 874 People say hello
[04:46] <nosse> bXi: i'll try that then
[04:46] <Linuturk_code> 874 people get banned too ;p
[04:46] <knox_> A-L-P-H-A, you can probably download it from mozillas homepage. I havent done it thou, I am using 1.5.0.5.
 little question you may or may not know the answer to, how can i make shift+3 be a pound sign?
[04:48] <Paddy_EIRE> manually
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> No idea.. It is on the US keyboard
[04:48] <dende> hi everybody
[04:48] <A-L-P-H-A> knox_, I've downloaded it... I have it extracted, but I just wanted to replace my old one.  I guess I could just wait till ubuntu's repositories get updated.
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Or else I dont understand your question
[04:48] <dende> i'm trying to use glade
it is on the uk one too, but i have recently eliminated the error upon logging in related to it and i would like to manually add this now....is it possible
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> i will be more specific 1 sec
[04:49] <dende> but i always get this error: Error running glade-- to generate the C++ source code.
[04:49] <dende> Check that you have glade-- installed and that it is in your PATH.
[04:49] <dende> Then try running 'glade-- <project_file.glade>' in a terminal.
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> you probably know more about it than I do at this point.. There must be an ascii table somewhere
[04:50] <andy17null> Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to make my screen change to 1280x768? It doesn't show up in the "Screen Resolution" dialogue box.
[04:50] <andy17null> It only has 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480 listed
 what exactly is ascii anyway
[04:50] <Paddy_EIRE> !ascii
[04:51] <ubotu> ascii: interactive ASCII name and synonym chart. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB
[04:51] <gubluntu> How do i initiate a terminal connection over COM1 from terminal?
[04:51] <albiiiiiiii> andy17null: try with dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg
[04:51] <knox_> A-L-P-H-A, ok. Sorry I dont know how, but search the forum, maybe theres a guide there?
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > andy17null
[04:52] <knox_> I dont think it reach the ubuntu repos, not until next release, or am I wrong here?
[04:52] <andy17null> I'm totally new to linux - do I simply type !fixres in a terminal window?
[04:52] <k31th> will dell all dir starting in 06 right
[04:53] <k31th> rm -rf 06*
 this is basically it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1719
[04:53] <andy17null> ah I found the link, thanks fyrestrtr
[04:53] <albiiiiiiii> andy17null: yep, type it in a terminal
[04:53] <albiiiiiiii> then follow the instruction!
[04:53] <Darkprince> is there a way to play games in wine or another program like cedega that i don't have to pay for?
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: wine is free
[04:53] <knox_> Darkprince, wine is free
[04:53] <knox_> :)
[04:53] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, but does it play games?
[04:54] <albiiiiiiii> in the first part of the reconfiguration you have to choose your video card driver...choose it right!! :-D
[04:54] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, i thought wine was a 2D windows emulator
[04:54] <gubluntu> darkprince, you play the games
 where do i put this --> xmodmap -e keycode 12 = 3 sterling
[04:54] <knox_> Darkprince, it play games.
[04:55] <npster> I need to convert mp3 or ogg file to wav file but to be lowest quality. Can someone help?
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: first, its not an emulator. Its a compatibility later for Windows. Second its not '2D' or anything.
[04:56] <albiiiiiiii> why the "make menuconfig" return to me something like "scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:141: error: LINES undeclared (first use in this function)" and more others lines as that??
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: go to http://appdb.winehq.org and see if the game you are after is supported or not.
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > albiiiiiiii
[04:56] <npster> !kernel
[04:56] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy I would say in a term
[04:57] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, thanks
[04:57] <npster> Can someone help with converting oggs to swav files ?
[04:57] <kingdong> does anyone know if there is a way to disable nonessential logging in ubuntu? my hard drive is very loud and it's annoying
 sorry to torture you but if you type xmodmap in a terminal could you help maybe walk me through how to map that shift+3 = sterling pound sign
[04:57] <james296>  how do I reset my xorg.conf?
[04:57] <mathieu> npster: what to you define as 'lowest' quality?
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> james296: sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:57] <npster> mathieu: I mean really low, so I can use it with my cell
[04:58] <albiiiiiiii> james296: crtl+alt+bkspace
[04:58] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: first, make sure you are using the correct keyboard mapping. If you have a UK keyboard, try xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.uk"
[04:58] <shawnr_> Anyone sell on ebay in here that know of a sellers tool for linux? or a way to get turbo lister 1 or 2 to work under wine ?
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Did you try pasting that line into a term?
[04:58] <knox_> npster, maybe try grip? http://nostatic.org/grip/
[04:58] <james296> it doesnt find it
 yeah it doesnt know what the rest is after xmodmap
[04:59] <james296> you must have typed something wrong in it...
[04:59] <gubluntu> phadthai, in terminal, typing "kill -HUP1" will start a terminal connection over com1?
[04:59] <gubluntu> er
[04:59] <gubluntu> wrong channel
[04:59] <fyrestrtr> gubluntu: no, that'll give you an error message :P
xmodmap:  unknown command on line commandline:1
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy xmodmap -pk
[04:59] <mathieu> npster: afaik, you can't choose quality with wav's
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> paddy xmodmap -h   for helpful info
[05:00] <npster> mathieu: In windows you can
 cheers this looks promising
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: 12 is what you want to change
[05:01] <gubluntu> fyrestrtr, how so? (besides the typo space
[05:01] <james296> now HOW do I reset my xorg.conf?
[05:01] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, do you use wine to run games?
[05:01] <mathieu> npster: if you want to create the correct answer: 'touch bleh.wav'.... but i guess you want better quality than that
know that i dont understand why 12 ??
[05:01] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: I did a while back :)
[05:01] <mathieu> s/create/have/
[05:01] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, what do you use now?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE:  Got an hour.. I will explain it
[05:01] <mathieu> npster: but that's probably not what you want to hear
[05:01] <shawnr_> anyone? i have to make hundreds of listings in my store, doing it by hand isn't going to cut it
[05:02] <james296> ???
 ascii numbers
[05:02] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: I stopped playing Windows games, and I only play native linux games.
[05:02] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, why's that?
 i have an ascii calc
[05:02] <eaglescout> I need some help.  whenever I log on to Ubuntu, my internet goes down for my Windows, and Ubuntu doesn't connect.  Is there a reason why?
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: here is my .... 12         0x0033 (3)      0x0023 (numbersign)
[05:02] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: because I got bored of them :)
[05:02] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, and what games are native to linux?
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> here is mine keycode  12 = 3
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> noe sterling next to it
[05:03] <npster> mathieu: for my phone I need 1s to be 14.80 KB
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> *no
[05:03] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: x-plane (http://www.x-plane.com) is the only one I bother with.
[05:03] <padan> I am trying to get this digital camera I picked up working with ubuntu (dapper), its a digital concepts, although I am unable to find the actual model number anywhere.  It shows up as : [17514554.940000]  drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. ApexDigital Digitrex 2110 spca533
[05:03] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, essentially i am pretty new to linux and i want to be able to play games without booting windows so i can get used to using linux
[05:03] <james296> how can I reset xorg.conf?
[05:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Lets take this pm.. ok
[05:04] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:04] <padan> does anyone know what I could use to mount the camera, or some app to pull down the data on it?
[05:04] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: there are a lot of games for linux though, one of the better ones is Coldwar
[05:04] <Mr0bvious> Who here knows about VNC? I want to change the WM that is used.
[05:04] <Mr0bvious> I normally use E17 but VNC uses KDE.
[05:04] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, basically i want to be able to play WoW
[05:04] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: first step is to find out how well your game is supported under wine.
[05:04] <npster> matheiu: As sound konverter converts the mp3s into wav i get 35 MB and by my calculations I should get 720 KB
[05:04] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: WoW is supported very well (I used to play it under wine)
[05:04] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, can you help me install and set up wine?
[05:05] <padan> mrobvioux, you should just put in like 'exec /some/wm' to ~youruser/.xsession
[05:05] <GaiaX11> Is it difficult to install wine in ubuntu? Probably not. But, it must be difficult to configure it. Where can i find advice to config it in ubuntu?
 im in pm channel jack_Sparrow
[05:05] <fyrestrtr> Darkprince: all you ever wanted to know is at http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5109
[05:05] <lonran> hi
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> !ine
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> !wine
[05:06] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE:  join #Jack_Sparrow
[05:06] <Darkprince> fyrestrtr, ok, thanks. i'll check it out
[05:06] <lonran> where can i download the bcm43xx-fwcutter packet from windows to make the wireless card work in my ubuntu?
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> !webcam > Paddy_EIRE
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> gah, sorry Paddy_EIRE
[05:06] <fyrestrtr> !webcam > padan
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[05:06] <padan> ah
[05:06] <HesNikke> i'm gonna be late for work, but i want to fix this...
[05:07] <HesNikke> IP networking on my ubuntu box just quit
[05:07] <padan> i guess its a webcam too, but mainly i am interested in the picture ability
[05:07] <padan> heh
[05:07] <HesNikke> no amount of ifdown/ifup fixes it
[05:07] <alekz> how can i create a boot diskette with grub ?
[05:07] <fyrestrtr> !grub > alekz
[05:07] <HesNikke> looking in ifconfig it shows that RX packets are at 40.0 GiB
[05:07] <HesNikke> yay for using correct terms btw :)
[05:07] <alekz> thanks fyrestrt1
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> HesNikke: wired network?
[05:08] <HesNikke> sort of
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> either it is, or it isn't.
[05:08] <HesNikke> it is, but it's going through a wireless bridge
[05:08] <HesNikke> (dd-wrt)
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> HesNikke: do you have a wire connecting your computer to the bridge?
[05:09] <HesNikke> yes
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> then its wired.
[05:09] <raghu206> when i type compiz-start menu bars and task bars disappears
[05:09] <GaiaX11> Wine?
[05:09] <HesNikke> and dhcp requests successed
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> raghu206: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:09] <HesNikke> the dhcp server is on the other side of the bridge
[05:09] <fyrestrtr> HesNikke: are you getting an ip address?
[05:09] <gubluntu> How do i initiate a console connection over COM1 from terminal of a machine that is already setup for it?
[05:09] <HesNikke> yet, i can't ping the router
[05:09] <HesNikke> yes
[05:10] <james296> so how can I reset my xorg.conf???
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> other nodes on the network working properly?
[05:10] <HesNikke> yes
[05:10] <HesNikke> and samba's working
[05:10] <Healot> !flash
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <b14ck73425> i have a linksys wireless-G usb adapter, how do i get it to work?
[05:10] <HesNikke> just IP networking that died
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> james296: you have been repeating the same question, despite me (and others) telling you multiple times how to reset it. So what's the real problem you have?
[05:10] <gubluntu> james296, check the beginning of the file, its something like dpkg
[05:10] <Healot> !find flash
[05:10] <ubotu> Found: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 4 others)
[05:11] <james296> the beginning of the file?
[05:11] <kryton^> hi, I've just installed dapper drake and can't get gnome to start (login is fine, then a brown screen with mouse)
[05:11] <james296> what ya mean?
[05:11] <rodrigo__> hola
[05:11] <HesNikke> um
[05:11] <HesNikke> ip networking appears to be back
[05:11] <HesNikke> O_o
[05:12] <HesNikke> i didn't do anything
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > rodrigo__
[05:12] <rodrigo__> hola
[05:12] <kryton^> any ideas why I can't get gdm running, just get a brown screen after login
[05:12] <gubluntu> james296, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:12] <lonran> where can i download the bcm43xx-fwcutter packet from windows to make the wireless card work in my ubuntu?
[05:12] <HesNikke> rx bytes is still at 40 GiB... does that mean that i've hit the top limit of some variable? ;)
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lonran:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:13] <b14ck73425> i have a linksys wireless g usb adapter, anyway i can get it to work with linux
[05:13] <james296> that only changes my resolution
[05:13] <HesNikke> alright, since IP networking decided to come back on it's own
[05:13] <gubluntu> ubotu, tell b14ck73425 about wireless
[05:13] <HesNikke> i'm going to go to work
[05:13] <HesNikke> ttyl
[05:13] <npster> Can someone help me more. I really need those wavs but they are 3x my phones memory. Please Help
[05:13] <james296> how can I get it to the whole setup screen?
[05:14] <gubluntu> james296, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <abriceno> Anyone knows how to install flash plugin for firefox in ubuntu?
[05:14] <kryton^> Use Automatix
[05:14] <Neo8750> !flash > abriceno
[05:14] <shadowhywind> morning all
[05:14] <gubluntu> abriceno, you have been told many times.. go get it directly from the adobe site and follow the directions
[05:14] <b14ck73425> i already have a wireless connection
[05:14] <Neo8750> !flash > easyubuntu
[05:14] <kryton^> Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome Desktop, just a beautful brown screen.
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> kryton^: Anything but #Automatix
[05:15] <Neo8750> !easyubuntu > abriceno
[05:15] <matid> Hi. I have a weird problem. Sometimes, when I middle-click on a link in FF or Epiphany two tabs open instead of one. It seems that sometimes two middle-clicks are detected by Xorg instead of one. Have you ever encountered this problem?
[05:15] <shadowhywind> I am having a problem connecting to the internet in linux, any dhcp commands i can use in the shell?
[05:15] <erlan> cvcdvf
[05:15] <erlan> dfdf
[05:15] <matid> shadowhywind: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[05:16] <matid> shadowhywind: or sudo dhclient
[05:16] <erlan> gyhfg
[05:16] <erlan> gh
[05:16] <erlan> gh
[05:16] <erlan> gh
[05:16] <erlan> gh
[05:16] <erlan> h
[05:16] <erlan> g
[05:16] <erlan> h
[05:16] <lonran> Jack_Sparrow, i need to download the packet from somewhere in windows, cuz i cannot use apt-get in ubuntu without network, does that packet come in the instalation disk?
[05:16] <erlan> g
[05:16] <shadowhywind> haven't tried those yet, if those don't work any other ideas? *i want to try a few things before having to switch back*
[05:16] <wladston> guys : my ubuntu instalation won't login anymore. I guess it's because of lack of free space on disk.... anyone can help ?
[05:17] <NthDegree> wladston, simple
[05:17] <kryton^> Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome Desktop, just a beautful brown screen.
[05:17] <matid> wladston: Can you log in via the terminal, bypassing the gdm?
[05:17] <Deaigo> is there a way to make linux offlaodm ore to swap?
[05:17] <Toma-> Ive been rather slow in the ubuntu world lately. Anyone care to fill me in on the latest and greatest desktop things? (eg. xfce 4.4 rc1)
[05:17] <wladston> matid : yes!
[05:17] <erlan> dfdf
[05:17] <Deaigo> becaussr at this point intime it has 1meg free all the time
[05:17] <matid> wladston: Then do it and delete some files ;)
[05:17] <NthDegree> Deaigo, are you insane? Linux is NOT windows, free RAM is WASTED RAM
[05:17] <lonran> where can i donwload the packet bcm43xx-fwcutter if i cannot use the repository without network? does this packet come in the instalation disk?
[05:17] <shadowhywind> wladston - have you tried to clean your apt files?
[05:17] <Deaigo> so if you apply any stress it kills rpoceses
[05:18] <wladston> matid : i've tried ... there are no more files to delete ... the problem heappened after I tried to install eclipse :|
[05:18] <erlan> eae
[05:18] <Deaigo> NthDegree i mean like more readily offload it to swap
[05:18] <NthDegree> Deaigo, free RAM is wasted RAM and that is the truth
[05:18] <matid> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:18] <shadowhywind> i had the same problem, and once i cleared out the useless left over files from apt i had enough free to sign back in
[05:18] <Wulong> Where can I get aalib1 >= 1.2 in package?
[05:18] <wladston> shadowind : how can i do it ?
[05:18] <matid> wladston: Try if it helps
[05:18] <bbrazil> matid: clean > autoclean
[05:18] <Deaigo> NthDegree my processes die because there is not mem space
[05:18] <kryton^> Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome desktop just a beautful brown screen and a cursor!
[05:18] <wladston> matid : thanks!
[05:18] <Deaigo> do you have any idea how annoying that is?
[05:18] <shadowhywind> wladston - what matid said, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:18] <Neo8750> matid: clean removes all the stuff autoclean would remove
[05:18] <xopher> When using pbuilder, how do I add more repositories?
[05:19] <drummer87> hi, can someone tell me what to install to get aiglx running in edgy?
[05:19] <wladston> thanks! I'll get out on m$ win now ...
[05:19] <NthDegree> Deaigo, it will swap to disk when you are low on RAM
[05:19] <frogzoo> Deaigo: add swap
[05:19] <Paddy_EIRE> I love how well ubuntu is running at this stage....hopefully none of the updates to come out ruin my setup....can i have like a system restore option??
[05:19] <xopher> drummer87, #ubuntu+1 for edgy, and aiglx is installed just enable it
[05:19] <Deaigo> i have a 512 swap
[05:19] <Deaigo> it never uses more thant 160
[05:19] <shadowhywind> morning all
[05:19] <kryton^> Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome desktop just a beautful brown screen and a cursor!
[05:19] <wladston> i think ubuntu could warn the user if there is no space to install anything he wants to
[05:19] <shadowhywind> *doh*
[05:20] <NthDegree> Deaigo, did you make a swap partition of double your RAM size but no bigger than 2048?
[05:20] <Deaigo> 128meg ram 512 swap
[05:20] <matid> Neo8750: That's true, I wasn't aware of this, but I think that I saw these two commands used together in some kind of a manual or a wiki page
[05:20] <NthDegree> wladston, open a terminal: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:20] <mdke> is there a trick for viewing https sites using edgy?
[05:20] <wladston> I'll try it now, gope it works!
[05:20] <krang> does anyone know if there's a util that takes some text (line breaks included) and outputs an escaped version suitable for use with sed?
[05:20] <mdke> seems that neither firefox nor epiphany will do it on this machine (https)
[05:20] <Neo8750> matid: i was more or less asking to be sure i just forgot the '?'
[05:21] <wladston> see ya!
[05:21] <NthDegree> if ubuntu is working properly that should leave you with more free space, but beware that has borked on me sometimes
[05:21] <kryton^> Any one with any idea why after login I do not get the Gnome desktop just a beautful brown screen and a cursor!
[05:21] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: back up /etc & the output of 'dpkg --get-selections'   & you should be able to recreate  your box without too much difficulty
[05:21] <Neo8750> kryton^: because when x load it doesn't load gnome?
[05:21] <NthDegree> kryton^, removed any packages recently
[05:21] <section3> anyone know why my shell sessions times out or something when I"m logged in via my ssh client (putty)
[05:21] <matid> Neo8750: You were right, autoclean removes less packages than clean, so only one command should suffice
[05:21] <kryton^> Neo8750 - i've got the login showing and logged in
[05:22] <kryton^> NthDegree - no this is a fresh dapper install
[05:22] <frogzoo> NthDegree: why swap no bigger than 2gig?
[05:22] <Neo8750> kryton^: so you got a graphical login?
[05:22] <kryton^> yes
[05:22] <kryton^> and then i login and BROWN
[05:22] <Neo8750> at login you should see option sessions
[05:22] <matid> Neo8750: But still, running both won't break anything
 im sure of 'get and set' although what is mainly contained in /etc
[05:22] <Neo8750> matid: true
[05:22] <Paddy_EIRE> config
[05:22] <kryton^> Neo8750, yeah.. it is set to Default System Session
[05:22] <NthDegree> frogzoo, it's an ancient limitation that swap used to be no bigger than 2048 (it wouldn't allow you to make it any bigger than that)
[05:22] <Toma-> kryton^: check your ~/.Xsession-errors file for anything suspicious
[05:23] <padan> easycam does not run, complains about the lack of gnome libs I believe, but from reading about what it does, i do not think I need it.  It seems that it only detects and compiles a driver for you.  as I posted before, my camera is recognized and a kernel module is loaded.
[05:23] <Neo8750> kryton^: try loading with just terminal and do as toma says
[05:23] <kryton^> it just says "Beginning session setup.."
 what about driver configurations such as how i got 1280x1024 will this be remembered
[05:23] <padan> the problem is that i can not get the photos off of the camera
[05:23] <frogzoo> NthDegree: these days you can add multiple swaps so even if the limits still there (probly not) there's a way around it
[05:23] <kryton^> i've got terminal and i'm looking at xsession-errors
[05:23] <Toma-> kryton^: hmm.
[05:23] <padan> camerama starts and then bitches that it can't capture video, however I dont want the video, I want the photos
[05:24] <kryton^> all it says is "Registering, .... running,..... beginning session setup", no errors
[05:24] <Neo8750> and if no problems there try loading what ever gnome loads on start from the terminal (i don't know what that is)
[05:24] <Zaxxon> hi need help ... just loaded ubuntu and it can't see my usb wireless card it's a EUB 362 ext any info ??
[05:24] <NthDegree> frogzoo, there is no more limit but all these limitations I abide by historically for stability purposes
[05:24] <NthDegree> e.g no boot partition beyond 1024th cylinder
[05:24] <Neo8750> whats gnome start when it loads gnome-desktop  or something?
[05:25] <NthDegree> gnome-panel
[05:25] <NthDegree> then the panel loads the applets
[05:25] <Neo8750> kryton^: try loading 'gnome-pannel &' from terminal
[05:25] <Zaxxon> hi need help ... just loaded ubuntu and it can't see my usb wireless card it's a EUB 362 ext any info ??
[05:25] <kryton^> command not found :S ?
[05:25] <Neo8750> opps
[05:25] <Wulong> (EE) -- Where can I get aalib1 >= 1.2 package?
[05:26] <Neo8750> gnome-panel &
[05:26] <Neo8750> 1 to many n's
[05:26] <kryton^> yeah, command not found
[05:26] <Neo8750> then you need to reinstall gnome =/
[05:26] <kryton^> uggh, which package is it?
[05:26] <Neo8750> got me
[05:26] <gubluntu> ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <NthDegree> kryton^ try erasing your GNOME settings
[05:27] <NthDegree> gubluntu, that wont do it
[05:27] <gubluntu> takes care of all dependencies
[05:27] <Toma-> dont erase.
[05:27] <Toma-> mv .gconf .gconf-old
[05:27] <Toma-> *smarter
[05:27] <kryton^> yeah tah, strange how i have graphical login tho and no gnome
[05:27] <Neo8750> yeah backup best way
[05:27] <NthDegree> that's what I used to say
[05:27] <Neo8750> graphical login is gdm not gnome
[05:27] <kryton^> well, still
[05:27] <NthDegree> GNOME display manager == gdm
[05:27] <Neo8750> i have graphical login but i run xfce
[05:27] <kallei> I'm trying to install subversion on a server, but i get the message "Media change: please insert the disc lable" when apt-get install subversion. the problem is that the server is 800 miles away :)  what can i do ?
[05:28] <gubluntu> How do i initiate a console connection over COM1 from terminal of a machine that is already setup for it?
[05:28] <covOPprometheus> sethk, hey, you there?
[05:28] <NthDegree> kallei, easy
[05:28] <matid> Resent: I have a weird problem. Sometimes, when I middle-click on a link in FF or Epiphany two tabs open instead of one. It seems that sometimes two middle-clicks are detected by Xorg instead of one. Have you ever encountered this problem?
[05:28] <NthDegree> kallei, just sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:28] <NthDegree> then remove the lines for the CD-ROM
[05:28] <NthDegree> then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:28] <covOPprometheus> matid, are you using a generic or a specific driver for the mouse?
[05:28] <NthDegree> and you are done
[05:29] <Xteven> hello, can I download an ubuntu install cd with a more recent kernel ?
[05:29] <matid> covOPprometheus: I use ExplorerPS/2 with my Logitech MX 700
[05:29] <matid> covOPprometheus: I'm not aware of any Logitech-specific drivers
[05:29] <kallei> NthDegree: thanks :D
[05:29] <NthDegree> Xteven, ubuntu edgy or there's 6.06.1 or w/e it is called
[05:29] <Neo8750> edgy is fun
[05:30] <matid> covOPprometheus: Sorry. the driver is generic (mouse), that is the protocol I use
[05:30] <Neo8750> its got it quirks
[05:30] <Xteven> NthDegree : ok, I'll check it out
[05:30] <covOPprometheus> matid, ok, sorry then, I have no clue ;) might try to install a diferent driver and test it
[05:30] <matid> covOPprometheus: Thanks anyway
[05:31] <Toma-> anyone running xfce 4.4 rc1? is it kewl?
[05:31] <Neo8750> Xfce 4 Desktop Environment
[05:31] <Neo8750> version 4.3.90.2 (Xfce 4.4 BETA2)
[05:32] <Neo8750> its got trash
[05:32] <Neo8750> =)
[05:32] <Toma-> beta? more to rc1 :D
[05:32] <Toma-> *move
[05:32] <Neo8750> this is what edgy is using
[05:32] <Toma-> oic
[05:32] <Toma-> thats pretty edgy
[05:33] <Neo8750> hehe
[05:33] <malice_> url for good screen savers?
[05:34] <Toma-> www.google.com
[05:34] <malice_> LOL thanks
[05:34] <malice_> :P
[05:35] <Toma-> try searching in synaptic for screensaver and get xscreensaver-data and xscreensaver-gl
[05:35] <malice_> k
[05:35] <Toma-> if thats not enough, get the -etxra packages
[05:36] <bohemian> Can anyone here help with a sound problem  I upgraded to dapper and now have no sound
[05:38] <crayzee> Im using 6.06. If I install mysql 5.0 (I currently have 4.1 installed), what will happen to my data? Do I have to dump it first? Also, is it possible to have both 4.1 and 5.0 installed?
[05:39] <equipo08> ff
[05:41] <Rookie-> crayzee - upgrade
[05:42] <EVRAMP> hi, i have nvidia glx installed and when i try to  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it shows me error, when i edit xorg.conf it doesnt help, but when i type md5 command then i cannost start X due to config problem. pls can you help me?
[05:42] <crayzee> Rookie... In synaptic I mark 5.0 for install and it say I must uninstall 4.1. Will this lose my data?
[05:44] <james296> is there an easy way to make my logon screen fit the entire screen instead of one corner of it showing?
[05:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Is F-Prot antivirus anygood
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> paranoia
[05:47] <james296> well?
[05:47] <kryton^> ty for the help guys, works now
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !F-Prot
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about F-Prot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <elu`Abel> have a question. is it possible to install kubuntu/ubuntu on my 512 mb flash mp3 player?
[05:49] <rixxon> what gnome version will edgy be using?
[05:49] <Nookie^> can someone tell me what packages are needed to watch a divx movies ?
[05:49] <Nookie^> !divx
[05:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[05:49] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:49] <_w^x_> if i've ripped a dvd with thoggen how can I then covert the .ogg file to .avi or mpeg4???????
[05:50] <padan> nookie, grab vlc
[05:50] <padan> its a multimedia player
[05:50] <padan> and that should also grab the divx libs for you
[05:51] <elu`Abel> have a question. is it possible to install kubuntu/ubuntu on my 512 mb flash mp3 player?
[05:51] <the_hammer> locate: warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old <---how to fix pls?
 i think this is possible
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !installation
[05:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:51] <Otacon22> How can i modify the preset music player?
[05:51] <fyrestrtr> the_hammer: sudo updatedb
[05:51] <Otacon22> How can i modify the preset music player?
[05:51] <Linuturk_code> elu`Abel, I don't think it would run well
[05:51] <padan> !camera
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <the_hammer> ty
[05:52] <Linuturk_code> elu`Abel, does it act as a usb pen? if it does, you might want to look into DSL (www.damnsmalllinux.org) I don't know about having both mp3's and an OS installed though
 may not run well but he could use a light weight environment on it
[05:52] <DarkAudit> !kamera
[05:52] <ubotu> kamera: digital camera io_slave for Konqueror. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 85 kB, installed size 360 kB
[05:52] <Linuturk_code> Paddy_EIRE, even then . . .
[05:52] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah i suppose
[05:52] <padan> hm, what can i use if i dont use kde
[05:53] <padan> or gnome
[05:53] <Neo8750> don't forget gtkam
[05:53] <padan> isn't there a gtk style app
 look up Damn Small Linux
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> camorama Paddy_EIRE
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> gawd
[05:53] <fyrestrtr> !info camorama
[05:53] <ubotu> camorama: gnome2 tool to view, alter and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 768 kB
[05:53] <padan> camorama fails
[05:53] <Neo8750> !gtkam
[05:53] <ubotu> gtkam: GTK+ application for digital still cameras. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.13-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 477 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[05:53] <padan> bitches that it can't capture video
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> you camera is otherwise supported?
[05:54] <Hyakutaro> exit
[05:54] <fyrestrtr> try kino if it is supported
[05:54] <Paddy_EIRE> How do i run clamav
[05:54] <padan> it gets recognized as ApexDigital Digitrex 2110 spca533
[05:54] <padan> so it loads the module fine
[05:54] <Paddy_EIRE> is it freshclam from a terminal e.g. sudo freshclam
[05:55] <Otacon22> How can i modify the preset music player?
[05:55] <Kosken> I just updated to kernel 2.6.17, how can I get the 43xx broadcom drivers to be used, as the old ones are currently the ones used :S
[05:56] <fyrestrtr> Kosken: rebuild them
[05:56] <Kosken> fyrestrtr: i am a complete newb at linux :P
[05:56] <alex-weej> What the f***? A notification that read "To avoid serious...." popped up in my bottom right hand corner and I have no idea what it said.
[05:57] <fyrestrtr> alex-weej: on a lapyop?
[05:57] <alex-weej> fyrestrt negatory
[05:57] <alex-weej> fyrestrt actually google ""To avoid serious" GNOME" points to the fact that I just unplugged my mobile phone without unmounting its volume first
[05:57] <alex-weej> That'll be why :P
[05:58] <webwolf_27> alex-weej, you risk your data by doing that
[05:58] <alex-weej> webwolf_27: apparently
[05:59] <Bimmerman1911> sorry for this newbie question, but when i try to remove a pre-isntalled package with synaptic, it says it has to remove ubuntu-desktop, is this true? how do i remove a pre-installed package safely?
[05:59] <DethKlok> In scripting how do I store the output of a command into a variable?
[05:59] <DethKlok> such as the date
[05:59] <alex-weej> DethKlok: VAR=$(mycommand)
[05:59] <padan> SOMEVAR="`date`"
[05:59] <webwolf_27> Bimmerman1911, what package do you want to remove
[05:59] <DethKlok> alex-weej: thanks
[05:59] <padan> echo $SOMEVAR
[05:59] <Crippy-Boy> Hi all.
[05:59] <_w^x_> if i've ripped a dvd with thoggen how can I then covert the .ogg file to .avi or mpeg4???????
[06:00] <_w^x_> any media heads here?
[06:00] <padan> w^x, have you looked at vcdhelp.com ?
[06:00] <Bimmerman1911> webwolf_27: evolution for example
[06:00] <alex-weej> Bimmerman1911: removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't actually remove any software
[06:00] <alex-weej> Bimmerman1911: it is only a "meta package" for the default desktop suite
[06:00] <Bimmerman1911> alex-weej: so its safe to remove even tho it says like that?
[06:00] <alex-weej> Bimmerman1911: however, you should normally keep it intact, as when you upgrade distros ubuntu-desktop pulls in the latest set of desktop software
[06:00] <webwolf_27> Bimmerman1911, evolution is part of ubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <alex-weej> Bimmerman1911: what exactly does it say?
[06:01] <Crippy-Boy> Is there a reason why after upgrading my kernel i get no boot messages. I just get 'booting <kernel>...' and then everything goes blank untill gdm kicks in
[06:01] <alex-weej> Crippy-Boy: Edgy? Upstart?
[06:01] <Crippy-Boy> alex-weej: Dapper.
[06:01] <alex-weej> Crippy-Boy: pass then
[06:01] <alex-weej> What video hardware are you on?
[06:01] <Bimmerman1911> alex-weej: it says the same for all pre-installed packages... (translated) these packges will alsoe be removed: ubuntu-desktop
[06:01] <alex-weej> Bimmerman1911: yep that is expected.
[06:02] <Bimmerman1911> webwolf_27: yeah but i should be forces to keep it right?
[06:02] <Bimmerman1911> alex-weej: so its safe to remove?
[06:02] <alex-weej> Bimmerman1911: safe, but not recommended
[06:03] <Bimmerman1911> alex-weej: it doesent remove the whole desktop anyway?
[06:03] <KarmaFrog> can someone help me with a network question:  I/m trying to set it up so i can use my laptop to ssh into my desktop using a crossover cable , but when i change the network settings to static ip  and put in 192.168.1.1  as the ip iin the section where you're supposed to choose the default device it doesnt give me any options
[06:03] <webwolf_27> Bimmerman1911, it is not dangerous to remove evolution, altough it is part of the efault desktop. It should not remove any REAL software except evolution
[06:03] <M_A_K> I just cloned a HD with norton ghost and am having trouble getting the cloned drive working.  I cannot seem to change the hostname nor can I keep the network settings for some reason,
[06:04] <TheDude> question - how can I make the clock on the upper right, to show the time as 24 hour time?
[06:04] <blad3> hi guys. i would like to start a terminal a run a command several times automatically. practically i would like to run who continuously. like top does with processes. can you please help?
 right click it choose adjust date and time then choose in there
[06:05] <harisund_> blad3 you could run it in one of the ttys available from Ctrl+Alt+F1 through Ctrl+Alt+F6 ..
[06:05] <harisund_> or blad3 you could use screen to run it ..
[06:05] <_thumper_> found the solution: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/33719
[06:05] <_thumper_> off now
[06:05] <Crippy-Boy> alex-weej: No worries, Figured it out, It added the splash option to my menu.lst and i had usplash disabled :-) Stupid mistake
[06:05] <TheDude> Paddy_EIRE, there isn't any option like that in there
[06:05] <_w^x_> asdpofhasf[oasj
[06:05] <Linuturk> I can't open links from xchat or evolution since uninstalling swiftfox and going back to firefox. How can I fix this problem?
[06:05] <blad3> yes, but i would like to run this command continuously to see when somebody has logged in.
[06:06] <Bimmerman1911> alex-weej: thanx for the help
[06:06] <Bimmerman1911> webwolf_27: thanx for the help
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> TheDude: right click clock and got o preferences
[06:06] <harisund_> blad3: I doubt if that would help. You could probably run it like every 2 minute sand have the output sent to a log file or something.
[06:06] <webwolf_27> damn, not even a chance to say no problem
[06:06] <TheDude> Jack_Sparrow, 10x man. works!
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: had you there..
 i dont get it?? thats where i choose mine .... try typing time in 24hr format in there to see if it adjusts
[06:07] <M_A_K> anybody know what might be causing me to not be able to change hostname?
[06:07] <blad3> i see. thanks for help. i remember that a year ago i learned about a tool that does that in linux. but i forgot the name of that tool
[06:07] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[06:07] <frogzoo> M_A_K: what have you changed?
[06:07] <M_A_K> I cloned a HD and cannot change the hostname on the new drive
[06:07] <frogzoo> M_A_K: what have you changed?
[06:08] <M_A_K> Not sure what you mean?
[06:08] <frogzoo> M_A_K: /etc/hostname & /etc/hosts
[06:08] <webwolf_27> M_A_K, how did you clone it
[06:08] <M_A_K> used norton ghost
[06:08] <confrey> hi everybody
[06:09] <confrey> is it installable 6.10?
[06:09] <webwolf_27> M_A_K, why not dd
[06:09] <confrey> excuse me
[06:09] <confrey> is 6.10 installable?
[06:09] <webwolf_27> confrey, yes of course
[06:10] <juan> to install the latest ubuntu is it worth my finding the cd i burnt or can i just install 5.10 then update?
[06:10] <confrey> webwolf_27, I need a cd, where can I download it?
[06:10] <AdamDH> hey all
[06:10] <fyrestrtr> find the cd
[06:11] <webwolf_27> confrey, http://www.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <fyrestrtr> confrey: #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <AdamDH> I have just installed the OEM version of ubuntu but the password I set at installed and I am logged in with username oem and the password set at install but if I use sudo in a terminal window it says the password is incorrect so I have no way to run sudo. This is the first time I have had this.
[06:12] <AdamDH> *install
[06:12] <Marsmensch> i'm interessted in forwarding sound to an other computer, anyone has done this? what soundserver can you suggest?
[06:12] <Vyzz> anyone knows how to four way boot ubuntu,Vista,Xp and mac os x. rite now triple booting without mac os x
[06:12] <confrey> fyrestrt1, tahnks
[06:12] <webwolf_27> AdamDH, do you have a live-cd there?
[06:13] <AdamDH> yes
[06:13] <disastorm> hey
[06:13] <disastorm> im trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first
[06:13] <webwolf_27> AdamDH, boot from the live cd, chroot to you ubuntu-root partition and enter passwd <username> and enter a new password
[06:14] <Vyzz> anyone knows how to four way boot ubuntu,Vista,Xp and mac os x. rite now triple booting without mac os x , plz help
[06:15] <webwolf_27> Vyzz, is mac os x out for intell??
[06:15] <fyrestrtr> Vyzz: you need a mac to run mac osx
[06:15] <binary_goofy> hi room! i keep getting an I/O error while i try to copy any VCD onto my HDD. can somebody pls help me?
[06:16] <M_A_K> webwolf_27 : I am new to linux
[06:16] <Spec> do you trust your cdrom drive, binary_goofy?
[06:16] <Vyzz> no ppl have run it alonside linux and xp, just google for triple boot
[06:16] <Spec> Vyzz: then why ask here?
[06:16] <M_A_K> didn't understand it very well yet
[06:16] <AZzKikR> anyone any experience with usb modems and linux?
[06:16] <M_A_K> I am in a lab setting and needed to get the machines up and running quickly
[06:16] <Vyzz> isn't working when i add vista to it
[06:16] <xopher> How do I install something to my pbuild image?
[06:17] <blad3> btw, somebody from #gentoo knew the command that runs continuously a line: it's called watch.
[06:17] <binary_goofy> spec: just bought drive. its a sony DVD burner. funny thing i have no problems playing VCD's only copying them.
[06:17] <webwolf_27> did you use any deadkeys in you ubuntu install
[06:17] <binary_goofy> just bought the drive i mean
[06:17] <lilbit> does someone know of a web page extractor or some other method to have and view a webpage offline?
[06:17] <disastorm> im trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> lilbit: wget
[06:17] <lilbit> I am wanting to archive important how tos that I find and keep them
[06:17] <shawnr_> Is there a way to extract a microsoft .cab file? i downloaded a template for excel to import into gnumeric, but its archived in a .cab
[06:17] <Healot> you can try wget or the other thing, hehe
[06:18] <webwolf_27> binary_goofy, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vcd.img
[06:18] <Spec> lilbit: wget
[06:18] <lilbit> fyrestrt1, wget at the command line?
[06:18] <fyrestrtr> shawnr_: install cabextract
[06:18] <lilbit> ok, will try that
[06:18] <harisund_> lilbit I think wget can create a mirror. If not you can use something called HTTrack
[06:18] <webwolf_27> binary_goofy, or better yet dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vcd.iso
[06:18] <Spec> binary_goofy: how were you trying to copy it in the first place?
[06:18] <Otacon22> people
[06:18] <lilbit> fyrestrt1, Spec, harisund_ thanks
[06:18] <webwolf_27> AdamDH, sorry I on't know how to explain it easier
[06:19] <Spec> Otacon22: persons
[06:19] <Otacon22> i havea a problem with a wireless card
[06:19] <Spec> which wireless card?
[06:19] <Otacon22> a d-link
[06:19] <AdamDH> Im a tad confused. Right I installed the OEM version so I did the first stage. I am logged in as oem and password I set in install. So what is the sudo password while at that stage as the one at install does not work? I want to setup packages etc before issusing sudo oem-config-prepare.
[06:19] <Otacon22> i have see
[06:19] <Otacon22> in dmesg
[06:19] <Otacon22> and it say:
[06:19] <disastorm> im trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it
[06:19] <Otacon22> mac address.. is on channel 0 outside of channel range of current regulatory domani
[06:19] <Otacon22> *domain
[06:19] <Otacon22> why?
[06:19] <Kosken> I just updated to kernel 2.6.17 so I can use the 43xx drivers, how can I change so it would use them? :S
[06:19] <Otacon22> my router is on channel 0!
[06:20] <ernie_r> what happened to the ls colors between breezy and dapper?
[06:20] <Otacon22> how can i connect outside channel 0?
[06:20] <Spec> Kosken: read the wiki
[06:20] <shawnr_> fyrestrt1, that worked thanks ;p
[06:20] <Kosken> Spec, I did. Though it seems that its mostly made b4 2.6.17
[06:21] <shawnr_> fyrestrtr, that worked thanks ;p
[06:21] <PM^> is there a setting that makes ubuntu log me off when my screen is locked?
[06:21] <harisund> can I compile a new kernel when Ubuntu is running under VMware and run that new kernel?
[06:21] <Leafw> over 46 days the gnome-cups-icon has grown to 46% of all memory. Any ideas what is going on?
[06:21] <PM^> because it happend to me that i locked my screen, but after a few hours, i was logged off
[06:21] <webwolf_27> Kosken, you need to reboot into the new kernel (make sure it's set in /boot/grub/menu.lst 1st)
[06:21] <stagger> hi! can anyone tell me which package contains the default settings and schemas in /etc/ldap? mine is gone and reinstalling slapd doesn't help :(
[06:21] <Spec> Kosken: well, that's only because i wrote it before 2.6.17 was used :-/
[06:21] <disastorm> im trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it
[06:22] <harisund> disastorm: how did you install the ati drivers in the first place/
[06:22] <disastorm> the "second method"
[06:22] <harisund> disastorm: what is that?
[06:22] <disastorm> well theres 2 methods to install ati the first one is ubuntu drivers and the second one iati drivers
[06:23] <harisund> so I am guessing you added a repo (Seveas') and install ubuntu-fglrx-$arch packages?
[06:23] <disastorm> if u use the second method and u wanna switch over to the first this guy told me a command i have to type in first but i dont ermember it
[06:23] <disastorm> i guess it uninstalled the second method or something
[06:24] <Kosken> Spec Oh u wrote it :P?. Im just wondering what would be the smartest way to move forward, as some type of 43xx drivers should be included in 2.6.17
[06:24] <EmxBA> hello
[06:25] <Leafw> how can one disable the "gnome cups icon", when killed it relaunches.
[06:25] <Spec> Kosken: I didn't write all of it, but I started it and wrote a bunch of it
[06:25] <Leafw> how can one terminate a user session remotely ?
[06:25] <stagger> could someone who has never installed an ldap server please check if /etc/ldap contains anything?
[06:25] <Spec> Kosken: but if it's changed since then, I haven't kept up to date :p
[06:25] <Leafw> a user session that was opened in the desktop, that is.
[06:25] <Spec> Leafw: look for the PID of the session and kill it
[06:26] <disastorm> im trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it
[06:26] <Spec> Leafw: ps aux |grep -i username
[06:26] <Kosken> Spec: Im quite unsure about the whole broadcom thing. Ralink seems easier :P
[06:26] <webwolf_27> stagger, if I ha one yes
[06:26] <Spec> Kosken: <3 bcm43xx :)
[06:26] <stagger> webwolf_27: does it contain schemas/core.schema?
[06:26] <Kosken> Spec: haha lemme guess u got a broadcom :P
[06:26] <Spec> yeap, that's why i wrote the page :p
[06:26] <Spec> built into my MB though, so I don't really have a choice
[06:26] <Kosken> Spec: did u ever manage to packet inject with it?
[06:26] <Spec> packet inject?
[06:26] <webwolf_27> stagger, I don't have an/etc/ldap
[06:27] <Kosken> Spec: yep :)
[06:27] <Spec> what's that?
[06:27] <stagger> webwolf_27:ok, sorry. got you wrong
[06:27] <Kosken> Spec: send data to router, to make it respond
[06:27] <Spec> oh, well then, yes, i use my wifi card all the time :p
[06:27] <nataraj_> hi. is there any way to bypass the file-system check while booting?
[06:27] <Spec> i've made it work with the bcm43xx module in the kernel, and with ndiswrapper
[06:27] <webwolf_27> stagger, if no ldap server is installed there shouldn't be one
[06:28] <Kosken> Spec: you probl running kernel 2.6.17?
[06:28] <Spec> nataraj_: you can edit /etc/fstab
[06:28] <Leafw> Spec : which is the root process of the user, a gnome-session is not present!
[06:28] <quiet> !info wireshark
[06:28] <ubotu> Package wireshark does not exist in any distro I know
[06:28] <Spec> nataraj_: and one of those numbers at the end will tell fsck whether to check the filesystem on boot or not
[06:28] <quiet> hrm..
[06:28] <quiet> !info ethereal
[06:28] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[06:28] <quiet> mm-kay.
[06:28] <Spec> Kosken: I don't know, I haven't upgraded my laptop in a while, it's probably 2.6.17 though
[06:28] <nataraj_> ah.. k
[06:28] <ernie_r> what happened to the ls colors between breezy and dapper?  Is it a new bash or something?
[06:28] <greyscale> how do I telnet to a specific port (In my case, 902)
[06:28] <Leafw> gnome-screensaver gnome-cups-icon .. lots of gnome-* but no session
[06:28] <Spec> nataraj_: 'man fstab', it's pretty easy
[06:29] <Spec> !tcpdump
[06:29] <ubotu> tcpdump: A powerful tool for network monitoring and data acquisition. In component main, is standard. Version 3.9.4-2 (dapper), package size 282 kB, installed size 640 kB
[06:29] <Spec> data acquisition! woohoo!
[06:29] <Rookie-> !tnt2
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tnt2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Rookie-> !riva
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about riva - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <greyscale> !cake
[06:29] <nataraj_> yeah.. i thought fstab was used only to mount volumes
[06:29] <Kosken> Spec: ah, im just wondering how to get it to use the ones that came with 2.6.17
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Spec> !riva128
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about riva128 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <stagger> webwolf_27: true. i wonder why a reinstall of slapd does only create the ldap directory and a schemas directory inside, but no files
[06:29] <disastorm> im trying to switch from the ati drivers to the ubuntu ati drivers how do i uninstall the ati drivers first. someone told me a command awhile ago that made it work but i cant remember it
[06:29] <greyscale> how do I telnet to a specific port (In my case, 902)?
[06:29] <Healot> !ati
[06:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:29] <Spec> Kosken: rmmod ndiswrapper && modprobe bcm43xx
[06:30] <Kosken> Spec: thank you
[06:30] <Spec> Kosken: you need to get the firmware though,
[06:30] <webwolf_27> stagger, good question
[06:30] <Kosken> Spec: yeh
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> greyscale: telnet hostname 902
[06:30] <quiet> don't use bcm43xx... it's so broken.  ndiswrapper works much better. Just blacklist bcm43xx
[06:30] <greyscale> yay
[06:30] <Spec> Kosken: you can check if it's likely to work in ... /var/log/messages
[06:30] <Spec> quiet: i use bcm43xx all the time.
[06:30] <stagger> webwolf_27: perhaps /etc/ldap is present on a default ubuntu server installation
[06:31] <Spec> and, uhh, well, it works....which is the opposite of being broken
[06:31] <quiet> it's horrible...  bcmwl5a.inf with ndiswrapper works flawlessly, all the time.
[06:31] <Spec> but....mine works flawlessly all the time....
[06:31] <webwolf_27> stagger, could be, I'm on my LFS box at the moment
[06:31] <quiet> Spec, what chip?
[06:31] <Spec> and it doesn't use a proprietary driver made for microsoft ....
[06:31] <Kosken> quiet: have u managed to packet inject with it?
[06:31] <quiet> I actually prefer ndiswrapper.. because it works the same regardless of the chip.
[06:32] <quiet> Kosken, i haven't tried.
[06:32] <Spec> luckily, i only have one chip.
[06:32] <Kosken> quiet: okay
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> quiet: Is this the link  you suggest ?
[06:32] <Leafw> what process (what name) has to be killed to kill a gnome session?
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[06:32] <Leafw> !gnome
[06:32] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:32] <Spec> man the wiki is slow
[06:33] <stagger> anyone here running ubuntu server? no ldap? is /etc/ldap present?
[06:33] <quiet> Jack_Sparrow, i don't know of any links with it... first thing i do upon installation is add bcm43xx to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and install ndiswrapper.
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> Leafw: a session, or the entire X system?
[06:33] <quiet> I have the Boradcom 4318 chip
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> quiet: I think that link details what you are saying
[06:34] <Leafw> fyrestrtr: a session or the entire X, any of the two. I just want to have the machien running as a server and there is an opened gnome session at the moment
[06:34] <quiet> the driver i use is:  http://bsdgeek.no-ip.org/~joe/802bg.zip and the bcmwl5a.inf driver within it.
[06:34] <fyrestrtr> Leafw: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop <-- this will stop X
[06:34] <Leafw> thanks fyrestrttr
[06:36] <binary_goof1> i'm getting I/O errors when i try to copy any VCD's onto my HDD. there r no probs wit playing, only copyin. can somebody pls help?
[06:37] <quiet> the bcm43xx may work with some of the broadcom chipsets, but it certainly does not work with the 4318, as far as I can tell. I tested it with Ubuntu, Fedora, SuSE, and Gentoo. The card would be recognized but would not connect to any wireless networks.
[06:37] <bsdfox> quiet: it works well on my bcm4306
[06:37] <Spec> binary_goof1: did you try: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/vcd.iso
[06:37] <webwolf_27> binary_goof1, like I said before dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vcd.iso then burn vcd.iso as an image
[06:37] <bsdfox> quiet, you've got the firmware right?
[06:38] <quiet> bsdfox, of course.
[06:38] <quiet> there are many reports of it not working with that chipset though, so I wasn't too surprised.
[06:38] <webwolf_27> binary_goof1, make sure /dev/cdrom is not mounted first
[06:38] <binary_goof1> spec, webwolf: this is the output from that command:
[06:38] <mishkin> hello
[06:38] <gubuntu> oh crap, whats the exit command for vi?
[06:38] <gubuntu> without saving
[06:38] <Spec> GuBA: :q!
[06:38] <Spec> gubuntu: :q!
[06:39] <ernie_r> Why does 'ls --color=auto -FXsh' produce such different results under Dapper when compared with Breezy?
[06:39] <Spec> mishkin: do you really want a response from 884 people?
[06:39] <disastorm> since i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it
[06:39] <greyscale> Having issues connecting remotely to a vmware server?
[06:40] <quiet> greyscale, have you allowed other connections, besides localhost?
[06:40] <quiet> localhost is the only one allowed by default.
[06:40] <greyscale> BWAH?!?!?
[06:40] <greyscale> Where
[06:40] <greyscale> is that?
[06:40] <greyscale> Stupid fingers XD
[06:40] <quiet> umm.... lemme check.. i forget. i enabled it a while ago.. brb.
[06:40] <binary_goof1> spec, webwolf: this is the output from that command:
[06:40] <binary_goof1> dd: reading `/media/cdrom0': Is a directory
[06:40] <ernie_r> Everything on my FAT partition shows up all greeny-blocky now
[06:40] <binary_goof1> 0+0 records in
[06:41] <binary_goof1> 0+0 records out
[06:41] <binary_goof1> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.00056 seconds, 0.0 kB/s
[06:41] <Spec> binary_goof1: not /media/cdrom0
[06:41] <webwolf_27> binary_goof1, not /media/cdrom0 /dev/cdrom
[06:41] <gilianima> how to register a new nickname ?
[06:41] <greyscale> thanks quiet ^^
[06:41] <Spec> binary_goof1: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/vcd.iso
[06:41] <bill__> I have a question about partitions. I have some free space on my harddrive and would like to setup a dual boot with another linux distro. can I use the same swap partition for both ubuntu and the other distro? or do they both need their own swaps?
[06:41] <Spec> bill__: yes
[06:41] <Spec> bill__: same swap
[06:41] <Spec> bill__: unless you hibernate, because that'll save your ram into your swap
 thanks
[06:42] <durruti> salut
[06:42] <Spec> gilianima: /msg nickserv help
[06:42] <durruti> quelqu'un peut m'aider ?
[06:42] <Spec> errr
[06:42] <alekz> its ok to create the main ubuntu's partition as logical volume ?
[06:42] <Spec> yes
[06:42] <binary_goof1> spec, webwolf: now this is the output:
[06:42] <binary_goof1> dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[06:42] <Scorched> I'm trying to install the php5 mcrypt module via apt-get install php5-mcrypt  I'm getting an error that php5-mcrypt is not available and missing. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[06:42] <Spec> yay
[06:42] <binary_goof1> 2752+0 records in
[06:42] <webwolf_27> durruti, non france
[06:43] <binary_goof1> 2752+0 records out
[06:43] <quiet> greyscale, i believe it's in /etc/xinietd.d/vmware-authd
[06:43] <binary_goof1> 1409024 bytes (1.4 MB) copied, 4.15552 seconds, 339 kB/s
[06:43] <Spec> was that french, durruti?
[06:43] <durruti> i'm newbi
[06:43] <durruti> and french :D
[06:43] <Spec> !french
[06:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:43] <webwolf_27> binary_goof1, good now you have an iso. burn it.
[06:43] <Spec> they're more likely to speak french there than we are :)
[06:43] <disastorm> since i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it
[06:43] <Spec> webwolf_27: he got an I/O error, it'll probably not work
[06:44] <disastorm> how would i rmmod fglrx if its in use right now
[06:44] <tristan_> durruti, but you can have help here even by French people. But you'll have to speak English ;)
[06:44] <Lattyware> Hey all
[06:44] <poningru> anyone know where ubuntu mounts to the smb stuff?
[06:44] <binary_goof1> spec, webwolf: the first line said, i/o error
[06:44] <Lattyware> Having a problem, Linux is case sensitive, Correct?
[06:44] <Spec> Lattyware: yes
[06:44] <poningru> Lattyware: yes
[06:44] <durruti> tristan_ ok, bye ^^
[06:44] <webwolf_27> durruti, I only knew that because I'm trying to learn french
[06:44] <Spec> or is that Yes? or is it YES? or is it yEs?
[06:44] <trappist> Lattyware: sort of
[06:44] <durruti> (no comprendo :D)
[06:44] <Lattyware> Then howcome when I try mv ./knoppix ./KNOPPIC it fails?
[06:44] <Lattyware> *KNOPPIX
[06:45] <poningru> like I can do smb://<domain><user>@<server>/folder/file
[06:45] <trappist> Lattyware: linux filesystems are case sensitive, but not everything in linux is case sensitive
[06:45] <Spec> what's it say?
[06:45] <poningru> in nautilus
[06:45] <binary_goof1> spec, webwolf: the first line said, i/o error
[06:45] <webwolf_27> Spec, nope probably won't.
[06:45] <trappist> Lattyware: is it on a fat32 filesystem or a samba shere?
[06:45] <Spec> Lattyware: how's it fail?
[06:45] <Lattyware> Yeah, Fat32
[06:45] <Lattyware> Is that it?
[06:45] <webwolf_27> binary_goof1, is the cd mounted
[06:45] <Lattyware> Spec: Same file.
[06:45] <trappist> Lattyware: that's why.  fat32 is not case sensitive.
[06:45] <poningru> Lattyware: yeah thats the prob
[06:45] <binary_goof1> webwolf:nope. not mounted
[06:45] <Lattyware> ah
[06:45] <Lattyware> So rather, Linux isn't, but Ext3 is.
[06:45] <quiet> poningru, if you're talking about just browsing network servers, it's not mounted... you're just browsing it with gnome-vfs
[06:46] <trappist> Lattyware: 11:45 <trappist> Lattyware: linux filesystems are case sensitive, but not everything in linux is case sensitive
[06:46] <trappist> :)
[06:46] <Lattyware> Interestingly, FatX (Xbox fat) is too...
[06:46] <Lattyware> Thanks
[06:46] <Spec> Lattyware: but more than just filesystems in linux -are- case sensitive
[06:46] <poningru> quiet: ah ic
[06:46] <webwolf_27> binary_goof1, try a clone copy with k3b
[06:46] <poningru> thanks
[06:46] <ernie_r> Why does 'ls --color=auto -FXsh' produce such different results under Dapper when compared with Breezy?
[06:46] <ernie_r> Everything on my FAT partition shows up all greeny-blocky now
[06:46] <Lattyware> Spec: Yes, commands and such.
[06:47] <Spec> and passwords
[06:47] <Kosken> Spec: im a newb at this, how do u get the .o file to run? :S
[06:47] <webwolf_27> need to go. Bye folks
[06:47] <Spec> Kosken: eh?
[06:47] <ernie_r> Kosken, link it?
[06:47] <Kosken> Spec: :P
[06:47] <Lattyware> bingo, switched to my Ext3 partition and it works fine.
[06:47] <alex-weej> Kosken: you can't "run" .o (object) files
[06:47] <Kosken> dunno how :(
[06:47] <trappist> Kosken: you don't run .o files
[06:47] <Spec> Kosken: you don't, it just needs to be in the kernel: check if it's in: lsmod |grep -i 43xx
[06:47] <binary_goof1> webwolf: wil hav to install dat. but just to put things in perspective, the VCD's play fine, only don't copy onto HDD.
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[06:47] <Lattyware> Hopefully I will get a new PC soon, and I can just forget letting windows acess my files entirely.
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[06:47] <trappist> !help
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[06:47] <binary_goof1> webwolf: i'll install k3b and c.
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[06:48] <trappist> err
[06:48] <Lattyware> I never use it anyway.
[06:48] <tristan_> someone mute that guy!
[06:48] <Lattyware> Great script that.
[06:48] <binary_goof1> webwolf: i'll install k3b and c.
[06:48] <optimusprime> which is better wine or vmware?....i think it's vmware...
[06:48] <Spec> bah, who plays battlefield 1942 anyways
[06:48] <Spec> optimusprime: qemu
[06:48] <trappist> optimusprime: they're completely different.  it depends what problem you're trying to solve.
[06:48] <Spec> optimusprime: or xen
[06:48] <Amaranth> Well, at least he won't be coming back. :)
[06:49] <optimusprime> and also do I need windows on the same machine to run either one of those?
[06:49] <trappist> Spec: afaik you still can't run windows in xen
[06:49] <trappist> optimusprime: no
[06:49] <Spec> trappist: so?
[06:49] <Spec> trappist: :)
[06:49] <Spec> trappist: they announced that they would support it, with open standards actually (i don't think you can do it right *now* though...)
[06:49] <trappist> Spec: so he was asking about wine... stands to reason he's wanting to run win32 apps
[06:49] <wladston> ubunu works now! :)
[06:49] <binary_goof1> webwolf: while we're at it, i have one more question. how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's and mplayer to autoplay my DVD's? right now, totem pops up for both.
[06:50] <sorush20> my alsa is not working properly since I keep getting this crash.. what packages do I need to have installed for alsa to be working smoothly.. do I need alsa-firmware-loaders?  CPUcount:2
[06:50] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22931
[06:50] <AlexC> binary_goof1, System -> Pres -> Preferd Applications ?
[06:50] <Amaranth> trappist: You can run Windows in Xen but only if you have a Core Solo/Duo or Core 2 Duo.
[06:50] <wladston> now, the disks manager application does not want to open ... it stays on that grayed out mode and I can't check how much free space  got .. any hints ?
[06:50] <binary_goof1> alexc: doesn't give option for VCD's.
[06:50] <trappist> Amaranth: ah.
[06:50] <quiet> Amaranth, you can run windows in xen if you HAVE VT capable processor
[06:50] <AlexC> binary_goof1, ahh
[06:50] <Amaranth> trappist: And Xen kernels don't play nice with nvidia drivers (or ati ones, I guess) so not even Dom0 can get 3d acceleration
[06:51] <Amaranth> quiet: The only VT capable processors are Core Solo/Duo and Core 2 Duo
[06:51] <AlexC> VT? Vertical Take off processors?
[06:51] <Amaranth> virtualization
[06:52] <disastorm> since i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it
[06:52] <AlexC> ahh
[06:52] <disastorm> how would i reset it to how it was before i installed any of the binary drivers
[06:52] <binary_goof1> how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's and mplayer to autoplay my DVD's? right now, totem pops up for both.
[06:53] <trappist> so I have a cdrom drive, a dvd burner actually, that doesn't show up *at all* in ubuntu, though that's the drive I used to install it.  same for breezy, dapper and edgy.  no /dev/hdc (which is what it should be) or anything.  any ideas?
[06:53] <Spec> trappist: what's dmesg say?
[06:54] <trappist> Spec: hdc shows up only once in dmesg, like so: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You here?
[06:54] <Spec> trappist: does 'cdrom' show up at all?
[06:55] <trappist> Spec: I do see this: ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe !
[06:55] <trappist> Spec: no cdrom
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[06:55] <Spec> what else does 'ide1' say?
[06:55] <binary_goof1> totem pops up i meant
[06:55] <trappist> Spec: just this: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15    and Probing IDE interface ide1...
[06:56] <infidel> how can i apt the latest version of kopete
sudo apt-get install kopete if it dont update then the newer version aint in the repos yet
[06:57] <gnomefreak> infidel: what version do you want? what version do you have? and what version of ubuntu do you have?
 what u at
[06:57] <infidel> gnomefreak: 12.x
[06:57] <trappist> infidel: if you're running dapper, there likely won't be a new version of kopete, unless you grab kde 3.5.4 from kubuntu.org
[06:58] <AlexC> trappist, Ahh I'm beeing good this time, I'm going to wait until its released officaly before I use it
[06:58] <ompaul> !edgy
[06:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:58] <infidel> trappist: i have kde installed on this version of ubuntu can i upgrade it from repository
[06:58] <trappist> AlexC: why does that mean 'being good'?
[06:59] <marshall> hey guys
[06:59] <adri_> hi, i need help because of my graphic drivers
[06:59] <trappist> infidel: if by 'this version of ubuntu' you mean dapper, then yes
[06:59] <trappist> infidel: that is, if by 'repository' you mean the kubuntu.org repo
[06:59] <marshall> are there any web developers who wouldnt mind helping me fix some of my xhtml?
[06:59] <Paddy_EIRE> will edgy feature an easy option to enable/disable xgl
[06:59] <trappist> Spec: any other ideas?
[06:59] <AlexC> trappist, well .... I feel it will be better if I wait till it's released - other wise it would be sneaking downstairs at christmas to see your pressies
[06:59] <trappist> marshall: might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:59] <AlexC> =)
[06:59] <Spec> trappist: nope, can't think of any, sorry :-/
[06:59] <infidel> trappist: where can i fnd the urls
[07:00] <binary_goof1> how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's? right now, totem pops up.
[07:00] <adri_> i have an nvidia but the hardware database tells that i have an ati
[07:00] <trappist> AlexC: feel better about installing it now, so you can help with bugs!
[07:00] <AlexC> marshall, Aye go on then, Im bored so
[07:00] <Spec> trappist: how many cdrom drives do you have?
[07:00] <adri_> heyyyy, any ubuntu guru for help?
[07:00] <AlexC> marshall, join me in #html
[07:00] <marshall> AlexC: ok
[07:00] <Crippy-Boy>  adri: Just ask your question and if anyone can answer they will
[07:01] <adri_> oks Crippy -Boy ;)
[07:01] <binary_goof1> how can i configure gxine to autoplay my VCD's? right now, totem pops up.
[07:01] <Spec> binary_goof1: not sure, check out gconf-editor perhaps
[07:01] <trappist> infidel: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[07:01] <trappist> Spec: just the one
[07:01] <binary_goof1> spec: thanks.
[07:01] <Spec> trappist: i dunno then.....weird problem :-/, is it slaved to the primary harddrive? and do you have two ide controllers?
[07:02] <alex-weej> binary_goof1: System -> Prefs. -> Removable Drives And Media
[07:02] <disastorm> since i already installed method 2 of ati, if i switch over to method 1 it doesnt work. someone told me a command before to type in first that made it work but i dont remember it. how would i reset it to how it was before i installed any of the binary drivers?
[07:02] <adri_> i have an Nvidia but the ubuntu hardware database tells me that i have an ati, when any program changes my screen resolution, the sistem dies. What should i do?
[07:02] <trappist> Spec: two ide controllers, the cdrom is the secondary master.  secondary slave (hdd) works fine
[07:02] <Spec> try making the cdrom the secondary slave
[07:02] <binary_goof1> alex-weej: dat doesn't giv options for vcd. only dvd-video
[07:02] <Spec> if you haven't already
[07:03] <infidel> trappist: thanks
[07:03] <trappist> Spec: spose I could dig in there and move stuff around.  but the BIOS recognizes it, and I used it in its current configuration to install ubuntu.  so it seems like it's a software (kernel) issue.
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[07:05] <Darkprince> i'm trying to update my ATI firegl driver but i keep getting an error
[07:05] <Darkprince> [Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[07:05] <Darkprince> [Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[07:05] <Darkprince> [Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.
[07:05] <Spec> trappist: the only hit i saw on google that had a similar problem to yours however, the solution was to swap his (2) cdrom/dvdrom drives
[07:05] <Spec> trappist: so...i dunno, i'm kinda doubtful, but it's worth a shot :p
[07:05] <Darkprince> any ideas?
[07:05] <Genesis_> DCC SEND 00000000000000099999999
[07:06] <Spec> !ops
[07:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:06] <trappist> Spec: I'll probably try your suggestion.  and I'll triple-check the jumpers, and swap out the cable.
[07:06] <Amaranth> Spec: He got K-lined
[07:06] <LookTJ> anyone have seamonkey on ubuntu?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ok
[07:06] <Spec> ah, is that automagic?
[07:06] <trappist> holy ... that works?
[07:06] <Kosken> bah net died :(
[07:06] <gnomefreak> Spec: klines are
[07:06] <beu> hmm
[07:06] <Amaranth> Spec: Yeah, freenode staff run a script that does it automatically if someone does it in a channel they're in.
[07:06] <gnomefreak> sort of
[07:07] <Neo8750> jebus save me!
[07:07] <Darkprince> hhm
[07:07] <Darkprince> can anybody help me update my ATI driver?
[07:08] <LookTJ> !ati
[07:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:09] <Kosken> Spec: didn't see what u responded :(, how to extract the firmware?
[07:10] <Spec> Kosken: that's in the wiki
[07:10] <Kosken> this firmware is a .o :P
[07:12] <carr_> ?
[07:12] <TSP_X> Hi all
[07:12] <carr_> 
[07:12] <ompaul> !cn
[07:12] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:13] <TSP_X> i have a weird error every time i time to browse somefiles i get this Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 68: incomplete entry ignored."
[07:13] <TSP_X> "
[07:13] <TSP_X> and that line is "application/x-cgwd-theme"
[07:14] <hrossing> hoi
[07:14] <TSP_X> any ideas how to fix this?
[07:14] <Spec> TSP_X: my line 68 is different than your line 68
[07:15] <TSP_X> i fon't gey it at ll witht hai issue
[07:15] <GaiaX11> how to connect through ssh in my own machine?
[07:15] <jackline> how can I start universe and multiverse without using synaptic?
[07:15] <TSP_X> id from time to time i when i try to browse my files, for example when i using VLC
[07:16] <TSP_X> Gais ssh username@ip
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> jackline: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines with universe or multiverse -- OR -- see !easysource
[07:16] <TSP_X> for example root@200.124.2.65
[07:16] <jackline> !easysource
[07:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:16] <cylix> I'm running LTSP and when I use the who or w command it does not show all users that are logged in.  Can anyone tell me why? Is it a bug?
[07:16] <carr_> 
[07:16] <GaiaX11> TSP_X: So, how to find my own IP?
[07:17] <jackline> thx fyrestrtr
[07:17] <trappist> carr_: /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:17] <trappist> carr_: or #ubuntu-tw or #ubuntu-hk
[07:17] <TSP_X> www.portforward.com
[07:17] <TSP_X> enter there and check your ip
[07:17] <tristan_> carr_, 
[07:17] <TSP_X> or in the network configuration if you have static ip
[07:18] <TSP_X> anyone at least know wht this file is for? malicap
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> TSP_X: man mailcap :)
[07:19] <TSP_X> nop
[07:19] <TSP_X> i try that before
[07:19] <TSP_X> i don't have any manual or jelp
[07:19] <TSP_X>  :(
[07:19] <TSP_X> help*
[07:19] <backlit> mailcap is a slightly old-school way of finding out the mime types for files
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> TSP_X: its *mailcap* not malicap
[07:19] <TSP_X> Lol
[07:19] <TSP_X> me hyper stoopid
[07:20] <ompaul> !enter
[07:20] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:20] <Adam> hey
[07:21] <TSP_X> Well i can comment out those line
[07:21] <liran_> any idea if fglrx has support for svideo out yet?
[07:21] <Adam> My network adapter has a DHCP address looks like its sending and reciving data when using ifconfig to view it but I cannot ping, trace or even accsess any network resource?
[07:21] <TSP_X> they are ignored at least i don't have to see this msn
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> Adam: sounds like you have dns problems
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> Adam: check /etc/resolv.conf
[07:21] <GaiaX11> TSP_X: I did ssh myusername@myIP   and typed my passw 3 times and It did not accepted! Why?
[07:22] <backlit> Adam: if you can't ping anything on your network, it's not dns
[07:22] <TSP_X> seems like a remote pc problem
[07:22] <Adam> its physically connected and ifconfig looks like its sending data so Im not shure
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> Adam: are you on dapper or edgy?
[07:22] <Adam> It has got a dhcp address
[07:22] <ompaul> GaiaX11, have you installed "openssh-server" on the machine you are trying to log into?
[07:23] <backlit> Adam: can you pull up a website by IP?
[07:23] <Adam> 6.06
[07:23] <Adam> dapper I think
[07:23] <Adam> nope
[07:23] <lostinc> is there a SE version of ubuntu?
[07:23] <M_A_K> Ok, I am tired of fighting with ghost 2003.  I was reading about dd for linux.  Am I correct that all I need to do to clone a drive is "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" ?
[07:23] <TSP_X> SE?
[07:23] <GaiaX11> ompaul: It is my own machine that I am trying to access :-)
[07:23] <lostinc> Security Enhanced
[07:24] <TSP_X> nubuntu?
[07:24] <backlit> GaiaX11: ssh <name>@localhost
[07:24] <Adam> I have a local webserver http://192.168.10.6 and its not even getting that
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> M_A_K: There is also G4L ghost for linux  bootable cd freeware
[07:24] <wolfeySI> hello does anyone know what to do to install tvtime under ubuntu?
[07:24] <ompaul> GaiaX11, it still needs to run the server
[07:24] <M_A_K> I did not have luck with it last spring.
[07:24] <reitzell> I have tvtime working
[07:25] <nich0s> Does anyone have any experience installing GnuPG on Ubuntu or could tell me what I need to do?
[07:25] <Adam> But ifconfig reports it has got a DHCP address and the DHCP server here is centos so I can see it getting the address when looking via ssh on the dhcp server
[07:25] <reitzell> all I did was sudo apt-get install tvtime
[07:25] <wolfeySI> reitzell: does it need extra repositiories ?
[07:25] <M_A_K> Jack_Sparrow : As I recall, it did not seem to like my SATA drives.
[07:25] <reitzell> I just used the standard ones (I turned them all on)
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> M_A_K: Are those set as raid or std sata?
[07:25] <M_A_K> standart
[07:26] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[07:26] <M_A_K> *standard
[07:26] <M_A_K> 1 drive per box
[07:26] <GaiaX11> backlit: It worked. But why it did not work with my external IP?
[07:26] <wolfeySI> reitzell: i see ok
[07:26] <M_A_K> I have a lab and built 1 machine and need to clone that for the other workstations.
[07:26] <M_A_K> Not having much luck.
[07:27] <backlit> GaiaX11: do you have a router? if you have a router, many will not let you talk to the external IP from an internal one
[07:27] <M_A_K> The clone seemed to work, but now having trouble changing hostnames and ip configs for adapters etc.  PITA
[07:27] <backlit> GaiaX11: also, you may have been connecting a totally different machine :)
[07:28] <TSP_X> Anyone using gnome 2.16 in dapper?
[07:28] <ratbert90> I have an odd problem.  I installed the ATI fglrx drivers for my 9800 pro, and they work, untill I reboot,  then they revert back to mesa
[07:28] <trakz> I'm wondering if anyone can offer some guidance on printing to a Windows 2003 print server. I know, I know M$ sux, and I'm working from within to migrate to *nix but until I can print to a windows print share I'm kinda screwed. Can anyone suggest a good howto? (nothing on the forums seems to work).
[07:28] <ratbert90> how on earth do I fix this?
[07:28] <Joenin> don't know
[07:28] <GaiaX11> backlit: I connect to the net through a net company. I mean through their server
[07:29] <Subhuman> ratbert90, umm run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the correct driver
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> trakz: system > adminsitration > printing -- double click on add printer, then choose network printer, then choose samba printer from the drop down, add your login information, and your printers will show up. Its pretty self explanatory from there.
[07:29] <P4W3R> hello
[07:29] <ratbert90> Subhuman, but why does it revert back to mesa every time I reboot after I get fglrx working?
[07:29] <greyscale> quiet- you still there? Your advice has been pushed off the screen
[07:29] <P4W3R> some help here
[07:29] <GaiaX11> backlit: Which is in my city about 8 km away from me
[07:30] <backlit> GaiaX11: it could be any number of things, I'd need to know more about your setup, but for most purposes, you can always connect to your own computer by using "localhost" or 127.0.0.1 instead of a "real address"
[07:30] <Subhuman> ratbert90, must be in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see if the driver is set to mesa in there
[07:30] <ratbert90> Subhuman: it says it's set to fglrx
[07:30] <P4W3R> how to apply a dapper .diff file to a .orig source tree
[07:30] <P4W3R> ?
[07:30] <Adam> any one got any ideas to my network problem?
[07:30] <greyscale> if I knew what it was >>;
[07:31] <backlit> Adam: sorry, it makes little sense to me
[07:31] <trakz> fyrestrtr: doesn't seem to work unless your a member of the domain. Can't anonymous clients print to windows 2K3 shared printer?
[07:31] <Kaahane> What was the command, what is used to xorg.conf for set up resolutions wery easily!?
[07:31] <ratbert90> hrm, it seems like the conf file added the ati driver  by itself?
[07:31] <backlit> Adam: i was going to suggest lsmod and the like, but if you have an IP via DHCP it beats me
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> trakz: did you add the pc to the domain?
[07:31] <ratbert90> it has two sections now,  aticonfig and ati technologies
[07:31] <Subhuman> ratbert90, it should of. how do you know its using the mesa driver?
[07:31] <greyscale> quiet! You still therE?
[07:31] <Kaahane> me?
[07:31] <ratbert90> Subhuman: fglrxinfo
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> trakz: you can use samba to add your pc to the domain (it involves a bit of setup). Then you should be able to print.
[07:32] <Adam> well ifconfig reports it has an IP address that it got via DHCP. So the hardware must be up as ifconfig also reports its been sending and getting data. But I cannot accsess any network resource or any local ip address or any local webservers so its like its not even on the network.
[07:32] <Subhuman> fyrestrtr, can you do it the other way around ( make a cups printer on your machine visible to a windows network) ?
[07:32] <ratbert90> Subhuman: I will reboot, I think I just fixed it.  What a pain.  I wish I had a nvidia card =[
[07:32] <Subhuman> ratbert90,  < - happy nvidia user :P
[07:32] <trakz> fyrestrtr: Thanks, I was hopeful someone had figured out a way to print without doing that.
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> Subhuman: yes, you can do it that way too.
[07:33] <backlit> Adam: just a thought, but what does "sudo iptables -L" say?
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> what is everyones opinion of opensuse? I am very sure that Ubuntu is cemented to my primary comp and want to try another distro
[07:33] <stefan_> hello
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> trakz: enable guest printing in your windows machine, and browse the workgroup.
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> on my testing comp
[07:33] <Subhuman> fyrestrtr, nice, ive never shared this printer since i didnt know how hard it was to do (or even possible), ill look into it, thanks.
[07:33] <greyscale> quiet- never mind =P
[07:33] <ArgentinoVLC> hola alguien me puede decir como configurar el chat de terra espaa????????????????????????????''
[07:33] <nich0s> !espanol
[07:33] <erUSUL> !es
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:34] <nich0s> !es
[07:34] <ArgentinoVLC> esoty con el ubuntu y en xchat pero no me sale la configuracion de terra spain
[07:34] <GaiaX11> backlit: Say that I am in another city, can I use ssh to connect to my machine through my external IP? Do I need to ask permission to that server administrator to do that?
[07:34] <nich0s> erUSUL: You may have won this battle... :P
[07:34] <ArgentinoVLC> ok thanks!
[07:34] <nich0s> de nada
[07:34] <Subhuman> GaiaX11, no you should be able to.
[07:34] <erUSUL> ArgentinoVLC: vaya al canal #ubuntu-es ah te podremos ayudar en espaol
[07:34] <erUSUL> nich0s: lol XD
[07:34] <backlit> GaiaX11: it depends. if you connect your computer directly to DSL or a cable modem, then you almost certainly can
[07:34] <Adam> there are 3 rules setup in ip tables erm could take some typing into here because I dont have a pastebin. Lets see if remote ssh works
[07:35] <Adam> pinging the box remotley I get nothing
[07:35] <backlit> Adam: pastebin link is at in the channel topic
[07:35] <Adam> I dont have internet accsess on the box as its a network issue
[07:35] <backlit> GaiaX11: if your computer is connected to a home router, you will need to set up port forwarding
[07:35] <trakz> fyrestrtr: Yup tried that! But it appears on a shitty Win2K3 domain M$ still looks for some type of authentication (cifs?).
[07:36] <GaiaX11> backlit: I connect to the net through a wireless card rt8180 and an aerial
[07:36] <backlit> GaiaX11: and if you are in a corporate setting, you will def need to ask a sys admin
[07:36] <GaiaX11> backlit: I am not. I am at home
[07:37] <nich0s> GaiaX11: Yeah... we're going to need you go go ahead and call your sysadmin... That would be great.
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> trakz: you need to to add your computer to the domain
[07:37] <backlit> lol
[07:37] <trakz> fyrestrtr: Noooooooooooo :-)
[07:37] <GaiaX11> backlit: this is a standalone machine
[07:37] <backlit> GaiaX11: forgive my stupidity, but is the rt8180 standard wifi or is it more "mobile broadband"?
[07:37] <Adam> http://code.m0php.net/12
[07:38] <Adam> thats the content of my ip tables
[07:38] <Neo8750> how can i be useing X if i don't got xorg installed?
[07:38] <LookTJ> i just installed a browser
[07:38] <GaiaX11> nich0s: my sysadmin does not know anything about Linux configuration
[07:38] <backlit> Adam: that's what mine looks like too :(
[07:38] <Otacon22> !rc
[07:38] <LookTJ> how do i make my jdk work?
[07:38] <ubotu> rc: an implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-2 (dapper), package size 73 kB, installed size 188 kB
[07:38] <nich0s> GaiaX11: Jeez... sounds like a moron (sooo just kidding)
[07:38] <nich0s> GaiaX11: ... please don't hurt me.
[07:38] <nich0s>  :P
[07:39] <Otacon22> !runlevel
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <Adam> never had anything like this before. Any way to check the itnerface is actually working?
[07:39] <nich0s> ifconfig
[07:39] <P4W3R> what is the key fto search in manpages?
[07:39] <nich0s> :)
[07:39] <P4W3R> what is the key fto search in manpages?
[07:39] <nich0s> man <thing>
[07:39] <P4W3R> ^_^
[07:39] <P4W3R> no
[07:39] <backlit> nich0s: he tried that, interface is up, has an ip via dhcp
[07:39] <GaiaX11> backlit: It is a PCI in a internal slot
[07:39] <erUSUL> P4W3R: man -k <string>
[07:39] <trakz> The annoying thing is, windows clients can print to shared printers across domains without membership.
[07:39] <nich0s> key... wow
[07:39] <P4W3R> inside man page to search for a string
[07:39] <nich0s> missed that :P
[07:39] <erUSUL> P4W3R: or to search in a man page /
[07:40] <Flatline-kun> I have a quick question...I couldn't find it in any of the online docs. I am thinking of switching from Gentoo to Ubuntu and wondered what version of the kernel 6.06lts uses?
[07:40] <P4W3R> when you have done man <thing>
[07:40] <backlit> GaiaX11: what i mean is, does it only work in your house, or does it work anywhere (eg on the road)?
[07:40] <erUSUL> P4W3R: man less (is the pager used to see man pages)
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> 2.6.15-26-686
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> that one
[07:40] <Adam> ifconfig shows its working but I cannot get accsess to any network resource but ifconfig shows its sending and reciving data
[07:40] <P4W3R> erUSUL: thx
[07:40] <Jack_Sparrow> They dont use the latest kernel, they just keep it patched
[07:40] <sioux> Hi is ok for you 5+1 audio?
[07:40] <erUSUL> P4W3R: yw
[07:41] <backlit> P4W3R: while viewing a man page, hit "h" for a quick reference guide
[07:41] <trakz> Adam: Check your DNS settings
[07:41] <P4W3R> oee
[07:41] <P4W3R> it is
[07:41] <GaiaX11> backlit: it is a pci card
[07:41] <P4W3R> it is the /
[07:41] <Adam> if I do it by IP still nothing
[07:41] <P4W3R>  /pattern
[07:41] <GaiaX11> backlit: and is installed in my home PC
[07:42] <anna> Hello. How can i open an Application always on a predefined  XGL-Screen?
[07:42] <Adam> I cannot ping, tracert anything including local ips
[07:42] <Flatline-kun> Can you build your own kernel...does ubuntu have tools to do that?
[07:42] <sioux> Hey surround 5.1 works with ubuntu?
[07:42] <trakz> Adam: Subnet mask correct?
[07:42] <backlit> Flatline-kun: apt-get install kernel-package
[07:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Adam:  216.239.39.99 in browser dosnt bring up google?
[07:42] <backlit> GaiaX11: that doesn't help me understand, but i'd willing to bet you have a router
[07:43] <Adam> nope
[07:43] <Flatline-kun> backlit: so it's basically the same as a Debian distro...as far as the kernel goes?
[07:43] <Adam> just get a firefox page saying unable to connect
[07:44] <backlit> Flatline-kun: yes, Ubuntu is Debian the policies and layout of /etc differ quite a bit though
[07:44] <GaiaX11> backlit: If I can call the server in my internet provider a router. So I do have a router
[07:44] <backlit> GaiaX11: home routers are all different, but check out http://www.portforward.com/ for great how-tos on how to forward ports
[07:44] <trakz> Adam: you on a corporate network?
[07:44] <Flatline-kun> backlit: thanks.
[07:44] <Adam> home
[07:45] <backlit> GaiaX11: you will need to forward port 22 to your machine's internal IP
[07:45] <backlit> FLatline-kun: anytime :)
[07:45] <GaiaX11> backlit: That site gives me my external IP number
[07:45] <trakz> Adam: You have 1 or more nic's?
[07:45] <Flatline-kun> I am downloading the CD now...I'm sure I will be back with questions...;P
[07:45] <raggadaz> moni
[07:45] <Adam> 1 nic onbaord
[07:45] <raggadaz> moin
[07:45] <trakz> Adam: WirelesS?
[07:46] <Adam> no wired
[07:46] <backlit> GaiaX11: type "ipconfig" in a terminal to find out what your internal IP is. your external IP is actually the external IP of the router, not your PC
[07:46] <trakz> Adam: IM the output of ifconfig
[07:46] <jeanne> welke kernelversie wordt gebruikt bij ubuntu?
[07:47] <backlit> GaiaX11: i'll brb if you still need help
[07:48] <GaiaX11> backlit: ipconfig our ifconfig?
[07:48] <Adam> ifconfig
[07:48] <Adam> thats will give you your ip
[07:48] <GaiaX11> backlit: I mean or instead of our
[07:49] <jeanne> de groeten aan hkBst.
[07:49] <raggadaz> quit
[07:50] <Aphex_Twin> hey there
[07:50] <Aphex_Twin> do you know of a resource that can perform distribuited radio broadcasts?
[07:50] <Aphex_Twin> as in ShoutCast or IceCast, but with distribuited listeners and servers
[07:51] <jeanne> quit
[07:51] <GaiaX11> backlit: I know which is my internal IP. Now can I do ssh myusername@myInternalIP to access my home machine from everywhere in the world and be successful?
[07:52] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11
[07:52] <Crippy-Boy> You cant just use your internal ip if your not on the network, Youd have to use the external ip
[07:53] <backlit> GayaX11: sorry "ifconfig" on linux "ipconfig" is for windows
[07:53] <backlit> GayaX11: from outside your home network, you can't connect to your local machine until you set up port forwarding on your router, and one you do, you have to use the external address
[07:55] <ratbert90> why does ati hate me so much?  Did I drink the blood of puppies?
[07:55] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: so it would be like this: ssh myusername@myExternalIP ? Am I right now?
[07:55] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: Yes, But you'll need to forward what ever port ssh server is running on
[07:55] <backlit> ratbert90: ati hates everyone universally
[07:56] <mfonda> does ubuntu not have ipconfig?
[07:56] <Adam> any one else got any suggestions for this network issue? This is my first time with ubuntu. Not my first time with linux.
[07:56] <Adam> it has ifconfig
[07:56] <backlit> mfonda: ifconfig
[07:56] <Crippy-Boy> mfonda: ifconfig
[07:56] <erUSUL> mfonda: ifconfig
[07:56] <mfonda> doh
[07:56] <Crippy-Boy> lol
[07:56] <ratbert90> backlit: how is it possible that I have selected fglrx as the driver to use in xorg.conf,  xorg BOOTs, but fglrx in lsmod is listed as unused?
[07:57] <nataraj_> are there any steps i can skip while booting, like fs-check, to boot faster?
[07:57] <backlit> ratbert90: lsmod is wierd like that. i have glx working fine with the nvidia driver, but lsmod shows nvidia module as unused too
[07:57] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: I can't do that because the router is a server in my internet company provider. I think that only the sysadmin can do that
[07:57] <P4W3R> bye thx
[07:58] <Cosmo-san> how easy can channel bonding be done?
[07:58] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: Am I right?
[07:58] <M_A_K> Jack_Sparrow : I just tried to use dd to clone a disk.  I booted from a Ubuntu 6.0.6 CD and it only recognized 1 of my SATA drives.
[07:58] <ratbert90> backlit: If I had a nvidia card, it would help.  I have done a few patches for them before back in the 2.5 kernel days
[07:58] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: I doubt it unless your at a university or something.
[07:58] <backlit> ratbert90: your more 1337 than me then :)
[07:59] <Jamminpotato> i wish utorrent had a native linux version
[07:59] <Kragnerac> heh
[07:59] <backlit> Jamminpotato: works fine under wine
[07:59] <liran_> is tv out not supported on fglrx 8.24.8?
[07:59] <nataraj_> do the Ubuntu developers come over here?
[07:59] <ratbert90> backlit: linux is logical, what can I say
[07:59] <Jamminpotato> backlit, i have some issues with it
[07:59] <dug> anyone successfully installed ubuntu on an emachines desktop?  could you tell me the model or point to online help with it? thanks
[07:59] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: So I have to do this in my own machine?
[07:59] <Crippy-Boy> Why not just use a native bit torrent client.
[07:59] <Jamminpotato> Crippy-Boy, name one as featureful and good as utorrent
[08:00] <M_A_K> Can someone give me some guidance on cloning SATA drives?  I installed and configured 1 machine and need to get the others up and running so I can teach my class.  I have wasted 2 days and have gotten nowhere.
[08:00] <backlit> Jamminpotato: isn't utorrent open source? (i prefer curses-based p2p apps)
[08:00] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: You have multiple computers in your house?
[08:00] <Crippy-Boy> Jamminpotato: Azureus?
[08:00] <backlit> utorrent is very good though
[08:00] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: No. Only one
[08:00] <Jamminpotato> Crippy-Boy, azureus is bloated and slow
[08:00] <Jamminpotato> backlit, no unfortaanetly its closed source
[08:00] <erUSUL> Jamminpotato: utorrrent works wonderfully here on wine
[08:00] <backlit> Azureus is a 30,000 pound gorrilla, uTorrent is a hot 14 year old ninja
[08:01] <erUSUL> Jamminpotato: i use the stanalone exec with the lastest wine
[08:01] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: So ...
[08:01] <trakz> Adam: When I run ifconfig I have: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:C5:37:35:F8
[08:01] <trakz>           inet addr:192.168.250.21  Bcast:192.168.250.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:01] <trakz> what do you get?
[08:01] <Neo8750> btdownloadgui ??
[08:01] <Neo8750> =)
[08:01] <bsdfox> who can advise me on a good program that I can setup to use the 10/100 connection on my laptop when it's plugged in and the wifi when it's unplugged? right now I always have to add routes and set dns/ip stuff to switch and it's a pain. I have network manager that does a good job with the wifi for the most part.. I just need something to disable that and setup the wired, then the opposite..
[08:02] <Jamminpotato> erUSUL, myne is just not cooperating for some reason, plus i would prefer a ntive one
[08:02] <backlit> bsdfox: Mac OS X? (kidding)
[08:02] <nataraj_> why is ubuntu not asking me for password while cut/pasting some files to say the /usr dir.? of course it doesn't allow me to copy them
[08:02] <nataraj_> so i am forced to use the terminal
[08:02] <Adam> etho Link encap:ethernet HWaddr HERE inet addr:192.168.10.97 Bcast:192.168.10.97 Mask:255.255.255.0 etc
[08:02] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: So how to forward that port (22)?
[08:02] <sid> When I try to remove evolution, it tries to remove Ubuntu-desktop
[08:03] <backlit> GaiaX11: http://www.portforward.com/
[08:03] <sid> I don't use non-web-based mail clients.
[08:03] <sid> How do I get rid of Evolution?
[08:03] <augi01> sudo apt-get remove evolution?
[08:03] <trakz> Adam: Your broadcast and inet addresses match. That's not correct. What's your default gateway set to?
[08:03] <backlit> sid: evolution is part of ubuntu-desktop, if you want to get rid of it, you have to remove ubuntu-desktop and keep all of its dependencies installed, then you can remove evolution
[08:04] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: Are you sure you have a router?
[08:04] <backlit> sid: although it's still not a great idea, gnome depends on lots of evolution's pieces
[08:04] <bsdfox> there really isn't a good app for that?
[08:04] <sid> evolution is crappy, heh
[08:04] <eigenlambda> lol ya rly
[08:05] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: I do not know. I have a single machine here in my house. Only this.
[08:05] <sid> If you're going to force people to use a mail client(which I doubt more then 30% of users use it) then at least go with thunderbird.
[08:05] <sid> damn gnomers
[08:05] <eigenlambda> i want metacity to replace compiz.  compiz is going totally non-gconf.
[08:05] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: when you ifconfig what do you get under inet addr (Dont paste all of it)
[08:06] <sid> I guess I'll just remove it from the menus and pretend it's not there.
[08:06] <Adam> I dont know about defualt gateway how can I check?
[08:06] <optimusprime> can I open .zip files in Dapper?
[08:06] <eigenlambda> optimusprime: yup!
[08:06] <trakz> Adam: System -> Administration -> Networking
[08:06] <eigenlambda> just double-click
[08:06] <backlit> sid: agreed 100%
[08:06] <optimusprime> do I need to download something?...
[08:06] <eigenlambda> or, type 'unzip foo' in the command line or something
[08:06] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: 10. (...)
[08:06] <Adam> that does not hold the settings
[08:06] <trakz> Adam: Click on your connection, then properties
[08:06] <eigenlambda> no, you already have file-roller
[08:07] <backlit> bsdfox: apt-cache search ifscheme
[08:07] <Adam> can I do it from command?
[08:07] <optimusprime> ok.
[08:07] <backlit> basfox: doesn't look like a gui tool, but it might do what you want
[08:07] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: hmm. you might be right :-/. Try and get someone you trust to connect to ssh, If it doesnt work you could always set it to run on a port like 443 that wont be blocked
[08:07] <backlit> bsdfox: also "ifplugd" might help automate it
[08:08] <trakz> Adam: route add default gw net_gate
[08:09] <Adam> which part of that do I replace with the gateway IP address?
[08:09] <dug> anyone get ubuntu installed on an emachines desktop?  just curious
[08:10] <Howitzer> Hi, i'd like to learn how to edit a font.. (i have this font that doesn't have , , ,... characters which i'd like to edit)
[08:10] <earthian> hello
[08:10] <grodius> how do you run wine?
[08:10] <Howitzer> do wine in a terminal :D
[08:10] <grodius> I am
[08:10] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: I already tried to access this machine with ssh myusername@myInternalIP from outside here and I could not.
[08:10] <earthian> grodius, #winehq
[08:10] <earthian> or wine /path/to/your/program.exe
[08:11] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: From where
[08:11] <trakz> Adam: So for you (this is a guess) it's probably: $ route add -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.10.1 dev eth0
[08:11] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: And did it work?
[08:11] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: From my friend's house
[08:11] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: I didn't
[08:12] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: Ok, Try running the ssh server on port 443
[08:12] <backlit> trakz: why on earth would ifconfig not add that route when bringing the interface up?
[08:12] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: How?
[08:12] <Adam> that gives an error network is unreacable
[08:12] <qsrv> hi
[08:12] <haffe> 'lo
[08:13] <dug> anyone wanna buy an emachines desktop :)
[08:13] <trakz>  backlit: normally it would.
[08:13] <Brkopac> Hey Guys, I seem to be having problems with my sound, it's coming out of my headset yet it sets to come out of my speakers
[08:13] <haffe> I have a question. I have a shuttle XPC with an nforce2 motherboard. Is hibernate supported on this machine?
[08:13] <vaginal> im trying to install dapper but when i press Start/install ubuntu it freezes and says something similar to PCI: Cannot allocate resource
[08:13] <vaginal> any ideas?
[08:13] <qsrv> is there a way to check if dbus is functioning ok? I think it's causing me problems with the power manager applet (it's not showing the present state) and network manager - it no longer trys to connect to the net
[08:13] <backlit> Adam: is this in a corporate network? it's starting to sound like there is some sort of filtering that is keeping your machine in a "dmz" vlan, like CleanAccess or something
[08:14] <trakz> Adam: $ route
[08:14] <trakz> Do you have a default destination?
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> vaginal: are you on a laptop?
[08:14] <vaginal> fyrestrt1 nope desktop
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> vaginal: try the alternate install cd.
[08:14] <vaginal> ah ok
[08:14] <backlit> vaginal: some say your name is "highly vaginal"
[08:15] <bilss_> hi
[08:15] <vaginal> indeed it is
[08:15] <bsdfox> I need compiz-plugins_0.20-0ubuntu1_i386.deb if anyone can host it for me
[08:16] <bsdfox> the server keeps erroring out on this one file
[08:16] <alekz> What has happened is, i tried installing ubuntu and it goes to the stage passed the unzipping or uncompressing something like that but then it just starts listing errors e.g [162.9876]  I/o error...., something here and then some other numbers.. is this meant to occur? whats happened if its not?
[08:16] <Adam>  $ route add -net 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.10.1 dev eth0 gives network is uncreachable as an error
[08:16] <backlit> bsdfox: did you see my messages about the "location manager" tools you were looking for?
[08:16] <haffe> alekz: Sounds like your cd is defect.
[08:17] <bsdfox> backlit, yes thanks I am checking them out right now
[08:17] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config change the port line and restart ssh
[08:17] <dug> vaginal: others have had that problem, i haven't seen a fix for it yet
[08:17] <enyc> Adam: that means your machine does not have an implicit route to 192.168.10.1
[08:17] <alekz> ok i'll burn it again haffe thanks
[08:17] <backlit> bsdfox: k cool, let me know if they are worthwhile, i still have to convert my ibook to ubuntu
[08:17] <enyc> Adam: err also that doesnt make sense
[08:17] <trakz> Adam: Just run the command "route" (nothing else). This will display all your currently configured IP routes. Is there a default one?
[08:18] <enyc> Adam: route to 0.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 is trying to crate a route for 0.0.0.* which doesnt make sense
[08:18] <Adam> no routes
[08:18] <enyc> Adam: I think you want 'route add default gw (gateway address)'
[08:18] <enyc> Adam: It might be 'route add -net default gw (gateway address)'
[08:18] <bilss_> this is slightly off topic but i have received some mail from a mac user which is all in hex 4.0 how to decode?
[08:18] <afm\colossus> in what package will i find the tool `strings`?
[08:19] <trakz> Adam: enyc is correct. Run that....
[08:19] <Roman123> Hi! How can I install Ubuntu on a software raid (1). It seems like the installer does not offer such an option. At older versions (prior 6.06), there was a text mode (expert mode) which provided this option.
[08:19] <backlit> afm\colossus: binutils
[08:19] <Adam> still says network is unreacahanle if I run route add -net default gw 192.168.10.1
[08:19] <afm\colossus> thx
[08:19] <enyc> Adam: however.. BEFORe you can add a default route... you need an address on the relevant network ;-)
[08:19] <Adam> it has a DHCP address
[08:19] <trakz> Adam: You 100% sure all your physical connections are good?
[08:19] <backlit> Roman123: alternate install cd *might* work
[08:20] <enyc> Adam: then it will pick up IP adrenss and gateway automatically usually
[08:20] <Adam> how can I flush it to get the address again?
[08:20] <Roman123> backlit: ah, ok. The "desktop" version does not offer this option?
[08:20] <Roman123> right?
[08:20] <enyc> Adam: 'sudo ifdown eth0'
[08:20] <enyc> Adam: then 'sudo ifup eth0'  to try again ;-)
[08:21] <Adam> says eth0 not configured
[08:21] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: Thanks for the help
[08:21] <backlit> Roman123: the "desktop" version is a livecd with no text-based installer, the alternate cd has all the tools you expect in a Debian-based installer
[08:21] <enyc> right... it wasnt up... ok
[08:21] <Crippy-Boy> GaiaX11: No problems, It work?
[08:21] <enyc> Adam: so.. ifup ...
[08:21] <enyc> Adam: what happens then ;-)
[08:21] <ax> anyone know how i can install ubuntu if i don't have a cdrom drive [but i do have a 1G usb flash disk] 
[08:21] <Adam> failed to bring up eth0
[08:22] <enyc> Adam: right.. so there is a problem somewhere
[08:22] <bsdfox> backlit, will do
[08:22] <enyc> Adam: what else does it say exactly?
[08:22] <Adam> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachanle Faield to bring up eth0
[08:23] <enyc> Adam: hrrm... sounds almost like the  network cable is unplugged or something
[08:23] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: It works with the internal IP on port 22
[08:23] <backlit> Adam: this sounds like a hardware problem, do you know exactly what kind of NIC you have?
[08:23] <enyc> Adam: or the DHCP server is not answering ;-)
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> !installation > ax
[08:23] <trakz> enyc: Did I not just say that?! ;-)
[08:23] <GaiaX11> Crippy-Boy: Now I have to test from another place
[08:23] <enyc> trakz: ??that\?\!??
[08:24] <Neo8750> !installation > neeja
[08:24] <Adam> eyc: the DHCP server is in product thats working Im watching the other 6 stations use it at the moment as thats on a server so I have a SSH session open to it to monitor it
[08:24] <Neo8750> !installation > Neo8750
[08:24] <Adam> *production
[08:24] <Neo8750> sry neeja
[08:24] <Adam> Its a Shuttle XPC barebones
[08:24] <backlit> enyc: if DHCP server wasn't answering, you would see DHCP requests going out, but not being answered when you tried "ifup"
[08:24] <Adam> erm NIC hang on
[08:24] <enyc> backlit: hrrm
[08:24] <ax> fyrestrtr: thankx
[08:24] <enyc> Adam: you can use 'lspci' to (most likely) list your ethernet card
[08:24] <wthww> hello
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Adam: still haven't got it sorted out I see :)
[08:25] <Adam> Broadcom NetExtreme BCM5751
[08:25] <enyc> bleurgh
[08:26] <backlit> Adam: that brings back memories... i seem to remember having all kinds of problems with that controller back when i was a Windows admin
[08:26] <Adam> I will do a google and see if there is anything
[08:27] <backlit> Adam: i wound up having to recompile the dos network driver to get it to work with Ghost
[08:27] <backlit> Adam: and there of the ghosted machines never came back up...
[08:27] <davidOmatic> Hey
[08:27] <backlit> s/there/three
[08:27] <davidOmatic> I'm troubleshooting a samba install on mixed ubuntu dapper/breezy network
[08:28] <enyc> backlit: erm looks that the BCM5171 uses a nson-free driver firmware ....
[08:28] <davidOmatic> For some reason while using smbtree i can get the listing of shares, nautilus asks for a password to give me the hosts list
[08:28] <enyc> Adam: looks like the BCM5171 uses a non-free driver firmware
[08:28] <Adam> shit
[08:29] <davidOmatic> any ideas?
[08:29] <redloff> hi, what are the "proper initialisation codes for printing the PC-DOS character set" mentioned in http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/dosemu.html?
[08:29] <Adam> so any ideas if it will work with ubuntu?
[08:29] <redloff> I have no idea, where to get them, nor how to install them
[08:29] <backlit> Adam: if you can get the firmware for it, and the kernel supports it, you can certainly get it to work
[08:30] <backlit> Adam: but is it worth that much trouble when you can slap a $5 NIC in a free PCI slot?
[08:30] <enyc> Adam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206106
[08:30] <enyc> backlit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206106
[08:31] <Adam> it has 1 pci slot and its in use
[08:31] <h8train> !installation > h8train
[08:31] <backlit> Adam: check out that forum post, it might not be as hard as all that
[08:32] <backlit> enyc: it sounds almost _too_ easy :)
[08:32] <Fuzzy> hello ive got a problem
[08:33] <Fuzzy> i have a radeon 9600 and when i fglrxinfo i get Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:33] <Adam> "In kernel 2.6.12-9 I used the tg3 module and it worked great" Im tempted to downgrade!
[08:33] <Fuzzy> im missing some drivers i think
[08:33] <enyc> Adam: backlit: lol... I had a miniq (similar to shuttle)  onboard ethernet die after lightning.... and had to install a NIC in the single PCI slot.. which meant removing the  protentd-modem-thing and using a real modem on com port... and sehtting all that up....
[08:33] <backlit> Fuzzy: does your xorg.conf contain a line that says: Module "dri"
[08:34] <Farrier> Question: How do I upgrade or remove a package that apt-get only half-recignizes? Updated from breezy to dapper, and now apt-get install says "automatrix is already the newest version". apt-get remove says "couldn't find package automatrix", and apt-get upgrade does nothing. Running automatrix says "this version ... does not work on Dapper".
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Farrier: #automatix for that stuff.
[08:35] <Fuzzy> yes it does backlit
[08:35] <Adam> right so its worth me trying the driver from broadcoms website?
[08:35] <Farrier> Sorry, fyrestrtr: thought it was an apt-get bug, not an automatix bug.
[08:35] <backlit> Fuzzy: that's my best guess, I'm using nvidia... sorry
[08:35] <enyc> Adam: if you know how to make it work againt your kernel source ared rebuild the moidule.. then that is very worth doing ;-)
[08:36] <backlit> Farrier: man apt-get
[08:36] <backlit> Farrier: check out the --force options
[08:36] <enyc> Adam: you will need build-essontiall and kernel headers and soforth iirc
[08:36] <Fuzzy> ... im using ati drivers ..
[08:36] <Farrier> backlit: thanks, will do! :)
[08:36] <TheCobra> hi
[08:36] <Adam> http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/faq_drivers.php#tg3
[08:36] <Fuzzy> atleast i SHOULD be lol
[08:37] <Adam> I really dont feel like doing that
[08:37] <TheCobra> can anybody tells me how I can de-install my ATI drivers?
[08:37] <Bret1> Hi, i'm having problems with my dual monitors. I'm running draper release 6.06. Two hp vf17 monitors (LCD), integrated SiS video, and nvidia video card.. I can't get the correct resolution on my second monitor (SiS one).  It looks like its something like 800x600 or so.  Please help :).
[08:37] <Adam> how do I find my kernel version?
[08:37] <IndyBC> How do I see my IP?
[08:37] <IndyBC> Adam: uname -a
[08:38] <Fuzzy> i got dual monitor to work
[08:38] <Fuzzy> but with a radeon 9600
[08:38] <Bret1> do you know how to configure the xorg.conf?
[08:38] <IndyBC> So, what is the command similar to windows' ipconfig?
[08:38] <Adam> ifconfig
[08:38] <IndyBC> Adam: ok
[08:38] <IndyBC> Adam: we answered each other :)
[08:39] <Adam> this might not be so bad afterall http://www.mike-devlin.com/linux/driver.htm
[08:40] <Fuzzy> Bretl: uhm well first of all u need 2 of everything 2 video adapters 2 monitors
[08:40] <woodbase> hi people
[08:40] <Bret1> Fuzzy: yea, i have that all setup.. i had my dual monitors working both on 1280x1024 using xp
[08:41] <russ_> anyone willing to help getting dual monitors set up....???....
[08:42] <Fuzzy> i used some guide actually.... that seemed to work out
[08:42] <Bret1> russ_: yea i'm trying to do the same thing... research xorg.conf file a bit. u need to set it up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:42] <Bret1> Fuzzy: yea, i used a guide, but can't get the right resolution
[08:42] <covOPprometheus> hellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should?
[08:43] <Fuzzy> oh? i didnt have a problem with that
[08:43] <Bret1> Fuzzy: they work, but its an awfully big res on the second monitor. I'm thinkin it may be a problem with the built in SiS driver
[08:43] <woodbase> anybody who knows anything about libgda?
[08:44] <Fuzzy> Bret1: could be... im not sure i can help you much tho...
[08:45] <Abst> Why is xchat-gnome unstable
[08:45] <PM^> how do i install my creative pc-cam 300 webcam in ubuntu? when i connect it, it is detected and the system offers to extract photos, but i want to use it in gnomemeeting for example, with v4l.
[08:45] <Homer> how do I kill a process in linux
[08:45] <magnet> man kill
[08:45] <cowbud> homer: open a terminal, ps auxww | grep NAME then get the number xxxx and type kill xxxx
[08:46] <TheCobra> how do i uninstall the ATI drivers of my videocard
[08:46] <cowbud> homer: if it still doesn't die you can add a -9
[08:46] <Gibbster> Hello all. I really know nothing about using printers under linux. Can anyone give me a hand installing my network printer?
[08:47] <backlit> Gibbster: try plugging it in (seriously)
[08:47] <Gibbster> haha
[08:47] <backlit> Glibbster: then go to the gnome printer utility and double click on add
[08:47] <Homer> ubuntu   11458  0.0  0.0   3064   756 pts/0    S+   08:41   0:00 grep Firefox
[08:47] <covOPprometheus> hellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should? please PM me
[08:47] <Homer> what is the process nmber
[08:47] <magnet> Homer: this isn't firefox, it's greap
[08:47] <magnet> grep*
[08:47] <backlit> Glibbster: my hp psc 1610 worked for printing and scanning without any command line whatsoever
[08:48] <cpope> Bretl: I was able to get dualhead to work, using nvidia, twinview, and the exact same monitor and resolution and this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[08:48] <Gibbster> hmm
[08:48] <magnet> you should look for firefox-bin
[08:48] <Homer> I want to kill firefox
[08:48] <Gibbster> backlit: What do I use for the uri? just the ip?
[08:48] <earthian> rebooting . . .
[08:48] <magnet> Homer: then grep firefox-bin, anyway you can do this graphically (open the System Monitor)
[08:48] <archangelpetro> the rage of achilles eh Homer?
[08:48] <backlit> Gibbster: it wasn't a network printer, just usb, but try just the ip
[08:48] <rixxon> Homer: sudo apt-get install htop   # really handy
[08:49] <backlit> Homer: killall -9 firefox-bin
[08:49] <Homer> ubuntu   21698  1.8  6.2 134760 65180 ?        Rl   Sep08  30:37 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
[08:49] <Bret1> cpope: thanks, i've seen this thread but will look at it more
[08:49] <Gibbster> and should I use cups, or smb, or lpd?
[08:49] <magnet> Homer: the pid is after the username (ubuntu here)
[08:49] <Homer> backlit: ok that worked
[08:49] <Peaceful> Which ubuntu variant(s) are best for an LTSP server???
[08:49] <backlit> Gibbster: always try cups first, it acts as a front end to smb and lpd if needed
[08:50] <vorbote> Peaceful: edubuntu does it ootb.
[08:50] <Farrier> Q: How to upgrade/remove a package that apt-get only half-recognizes? "apt-get install" says "already the newest version"; "remove"/"install --reinstall" say "couldn't find package"; "upgrade"/"upgrade --reinstall" say "0 upgraded"; --force-yes doesn't help.
[08:50] <Gibbster> backlit: hmmm. doesn't list my printer
[08:50] <Homer> rixxon, I'll try that out
[08:50] <gorski> can i resize my fat32 partition?
[08:50] <rixxon> Homer: although backlit's suggestion is probably better for you in this specific situation
[08:50] <gorski> using gparted?
[08:51] <Peaceful> vorbote: ok, I'll try that first.
[08:51] <Homer> is the UI for process information
[08:51] <Homer> is there*
[08:51] <magnet> gorski: no and no
[08:51] <backlit> Homer: yes, "killall" kills every process matching the given name
[08:51] <magnet> gorski: you can't resize a partition
[08:51] <Farrier> (yes, package is automatix; no, it's not an automatix problem, it's an apt-get one; no there is no activity in that channel anyway).
[08:51] <gorski> why?
[08:51] <Lysit> Anyone know of a fairly lightweight bittorrent client that'll support download from rss?
[08:51] <backlit> Gibbster: do you have "HP JetDirect" as an option in add printer?
[08:51] <magnet> gorski: because it's just no feasable; utils saying that they "resize" lie
[08:51] <Homer> no like a XWin UI for processes like alt-ctrl-del on windows
[08:52] <frojnd> can someone help me with fdisk
[08:52] <backlit> Homer: system -> administration -> system monitor
[08:52] <magnet> gorski: they copy the content elsewhere, then remove the part, then create another
[08:52] <covOPprometheus> hellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should?
[08:52] <frojnd> I wanna to format NTFS partition
[08:52] <Gibbster> backlit: yes. should I try that?
[08:52] <backlit> Homer: (this is assuming you are using GNOME
[08:52] <frojnd> with fdisk
[08:52] <Homer> k
[08:52] <backlit> Gibbster: couldn't hurt, if it's a network printer
[08:52] <Bret1> cpope: i've gota restart my comp. i'll get back on when im done with these steps
[08:52] <gorski> aha
[08:52] <midgetg0a1> heya - what software would I use to view my windows desktop via ubuntu - something similar to Remote desktop?
[08:52] <Neo8750> vnc
[08:53] <midgetg0a1> ty.
[08:53] <Lysit> For windows? Tightbnc server will do
[08:53] <Farrier> Alternative Q: where does apt-get store its list of "installed packages", and how do I remove an item from there?
[08:53] <Lysit> *Tightvnc
[08:53] <cpope> Q: I'm using edgy, what kernel should I use for SMP? Synaptic says linux-686-smp is obsoleted by linux-image-generic, which I have installed but it doesn't see my proc as dualcore
[08:53] <midgetg0a1> oh, i need to setup a server on the windows box?
[08:53] <midgetg0a1> nothing connects native to the RDC service?
[08:53] <backlit> midgetg0a1: man rdesktop
[08:53] <Lysit> The windows RDC?
[08:53] <davidOmatic> how do i tell which ubuntu version the machine is running?
[08:54] <midgetg0a1> well, thast what i call it, remote desktop service.
[08:54] <backlit> rdesktop is a client for Microsoft Remote Desktop
[08:54] <backlit> (aka terminal services)
[08:54] <midgetg0a1> excellent, thanks backlit - i'll give it a read.
[08:54] <Lysit> The one built into windows never wnats to work for me, so I installed tightvnc server instead
[08:54] <midgetg0a1> right, thats what i meant, terminal services
[08:54] <midgetg0a1> gonna try now.
[08:55] <DShepherd> !fonts > DShepherd
[08:55] <robin_sz> hi girls ... over the years I have put up with the hoops i have to jump through to install Java on debian. Is it any different ie easier on Ubuntu?
[08:55] <Lysit> Hi girls?
[08:55] <Lysit> Thats a bit hopeful
[08:55] <robin_sz> well, I live in hope.
[08:55] <Farrier> If nobody has any better suggestions, I'm gonna try "rm -rF `locate PKGNAME`" and see if apt-get starts to work then.
[08:55] <midgetg0a1> beautiful, worked no problem - thanks a lot backlit
[08:56] <backlit> midget0a1: Remote Desktop Client is a gui front end for both rdesktop and vnc, if you want a non-comnmand-line version
[08:56] <backlit> midget0a1: np, glad to be off help :)
[08:56] <vorbote> Farrier: try with "aptitude reinstall"
[08:56] <midgetg0a1> well, im thinking i'll just create a launcher for rdesktop.
[08:56] <cowbud> Farrier: what package are you trying to upgrade?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> robin_sz: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre too many hoops for you?
[08:57] <backlit> simplest is best
[08:57] <Fuzzy> ive downloaded XFree86 ATI drivers (fglrx_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.i386.rpm) but how do i install them?
[08:57] <robin_sz> gnomefreak, sounds easy enough ... somewhat easier than im used to!
[08:57] <Fuzzy> btw sry for being noob lolol
[08:57] <Gibbster> backlit:hmm... My real trouble is that I know nothing. I don't know the port, smb name or password, etc. Windows hid all that stuff from me!
[08:57] <gnomefreak> robin_sz: make sure multiverse repo is enabled and go for it
[08:58] <gnomefreak> robin_sz: sun-java5-plugin installs plugin -bin -jre
[08:58] <timshel> does anyone know where i can find a fafsa/finance help channel?
[08:58] <robin_sz> "multiverse repo" ?
[08:58] <Gibbster> backlit: there's a debian driver on the lexmark webpage. Do you think that will work?
[08:58] <Fuzzy> ive downloaded XFree86 ATI drivers (fglrx_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.i386.rpm) but how do i install them?
[08:58] <HeMan> anyone who knows how Epiphany does it's mime-mapping?
[08:58] <Farrier> vorbote: almost worked, said "Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?" when I ran it as "sudo aptitude reinstall automatrix"
[08:59] <Farrier> cowbud: automatix"
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy: not a good choice
[08:59] <Fuzzy> orly?
[08:59] <Farrier> -r
[08:59] <Fuzzy> any better ideas?
[08:59] <robin_sz> hammers?
[08:59] <Fuzzy> ive got a radeon 9600
[08:59] <cowbud> Farrier: and when you do a dpkg --purge automatix what happens?
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !fglrx > fuzzy
[09:00] <Fuzzy> well fuzzy@fuzzy-desktop:~/Desktop$ fglrxinfo
[09:00] <Fuzzy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:00] <Fuzzy> so thats why im dling this
[09:00] <midgetg0a1> backlit: Any idea how i'd set window res? All i see is -f for fullscreen?
[09:01] <midgetg0a1> bah
[09:01] <midgetg0a1> nm
[09:01] <midgetg0a1> -g
[09:01] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help me activating direct rendering?
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > fuzzy
[09:01] <vorbote> Farrier: it means there is a runaway apt process somewhere. Need to review the output of "ps -feaw" and do a "kill -9" on anything that has apt in it (probably an apt-http process).
[09:01] <midgetg0a1> you running compiz covOPprometheus?
[09:01] <backlit> Gibbster: i would try eveything else before installing an "official" lexmark driver on your machine
[09:01] <Fuzzy> ok well.. try speaking in sentences
[09:01] <Farrier> cowbud: brilliant, thank you :) That command removed it from the apt-get and aptitude database, which is exactly what I needed. Thanks :)
[09:01] <Fuzzy> u might make more sence then
[09:01] <cowbud> Farrier: no problem
[09:01] <covOPprometheus> midgetg0a1, actually I have no idea :S how can I check that?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy: did you try to follow the Ubotu instructions?
[09:02] <midgetg0a1> run compiz-start from terminal
[09:02] <backlit> Gibbster: basically you need to have the computer find the printer before you can tell it what driver it needs, and chances are the driver is already installed
[09:02] <Fuzzy> what ubutu instructions
[09:02] <midgetg0a1> the reason i ask is because when i'm in compiz/xgl session, direct render: no...
[09:02] <covOPprometheus> bash: compiz-start: command not found
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy: The ati instructions I linked to you
[09:02] <mjr> midgetg0a1, xgl doesn't do direct rendering
[09:02] <midgetg0a1> apparnetly that is just what it says. when i'm in a normal gnome session, it says yes...
[09:03] <midgetg0a1> right, thats what i'm trying to explain - but i do a horrible job no doubt.
[09:03] <Fuzzy> ohh lol
[09:03] <Fuzzy> i didnt notice
[09:03] <Fuzzy> XD
[09:03] <Farrier> vorbote: thanks :) Looks like whatever process it was is dead already, no *apt* processes running
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy: and the fglrx instructions I linked to you
[09:04] <vorbote> :-)
[09:04] <thomas> Hello, I am having some trouble setting up a cron job. I have two commands which I know work, both are excecutable, but cron will not run either of them. I have tried using crontab -e as well as gnome-schedule. Neither has worked. Can somebody help me solve this please?
[09:04] <Fuzzy> ill try both
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy: np ... There are easier wayt to do what you want without trying to Alien an RPM
[09:05] <Neo8750> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22935 <-- how can i fix this
[09:05] <sharp> i get /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory while building ndiswrapper, somebody please help.
[09:05] <thomas> Neo8750: what are you trying to compile?
[09:06] <Neo8750> xfce4-mixer
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sharp.. what card are you trying to get working
[09:06] <thomas> Neo8750: you know that is available via apt right?
[09:06] <Neo8750> not the rc1
[09:06] <sharp> Jack_Sparrow, Broadcom 4311
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> One sec
[09:07] <thomas> Neo8750: did you use --prefix=/usr ??
[09:07] <Neo8750> trying to install xfce4.4rc1 and thats where it failed
[09:07] <Neo8750> maybe it
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sharp https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:07] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help me activating direct rendering?
[09:08] <sharp> Jack_Sparrow, ndiswrapper-utils is too old for this driver
[09:08] <nich0s> If anyone has a sony laptop, please make sure that you don't call in in regards to software that was never and will never be written for linux.  In fact, why don't you just shoot yourself in the foot for doing something intelligent... idk switching to linux. :P
[09:08] <covOPprometheus> has anyone some experience with Intel Media Accelerator 900 ?
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sharp: People have followed that link and gotten that card running
[09:09] <thomas> covOPprometheus: just tell us what your problem is.
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sharp: Just a suggestion..
[09:09] <covOPprometheus> hellow guys, I'm having trouble with 3ddesktop, apparentely there is no direct rendering, but app has worked on the very same session, can anyone help me to test if my graphics are configured as they should?
[09:09] <covOPprometheus> thomas, just read what I'm asking for some hours hehe ;)
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl... Play nice
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> covOPprometheus: Have you tried glxgears -printfps
[09:10] <thomas> covOPprometheus: is your Xorg.conf file edited correctly to enable DRI?
[09:10] <Linuh>  
[09:10] <Linuh>  
[09:11] <covOPprometheus> thomas, how would it be correctly? I'm new to this
[09:11] <Linuh>    .
[09:11] <Linuh> ?
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !ru
[09:11] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[09:12] <covOPprometheus> Jack_Sparrow, it's sticky as hell now, but I could swear it worked before :S
[09:12] <covOPprometheus> Jack_Sparrow, direct rendering is not enabled now
[09:12] <Fuzzy> Jack_Sparrow:  when i do sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname-r) it says bash: uname-r: command not found
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife is giving me that look.. Sorry but I must go...
[09:12] <davin> Hi, im sort of a linux noob, Im trying to copy '/' to a usb harddisk as backup because I want to try out Xgl/Compiz, can I just safely use 'sudo cp / /mnt/usb/harddrive/whatever'? Just want to make sure
[09:12] <Fuzzy> so whats this (uname-r) about ?
[09:12] <FlimFlamMan> is there a way to set up a directory such that all directories created under it are read/write for the group that owns it, regardless of who creates them?
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy: did you enable the repos?
[09:13] <thomas> covOPprometheus: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then find ' Section "Module" ' and add a new line Load "dri" as the others are.
[09:13] <Fuzzy> repos?
[09:13] <davin> Fuzzy: uname-r refers to the currently running kernel
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzzy: Sorry out of time... look at your sources.list
[09:13] <davin> Fuzzy: if you are getting a package with a uname-r prefix, it most likely means it will get you the version for your kernel
[09:13] <Fuzzy> ok
[09:14] <don_jr> How do I use a .bin file?
[09:14] <covOPprometheus> thomas, it is already there
[09:14] <Fuzzy> ahh
[09:14] <davin> don_jr: ./blabla.bin?
[09:14] <thomas> covOPprometheus: what drivers are you using?
[09:14] <nich0s> What is the name of the perl scriptable browser?
[09:14] <don_jr> davin I'll keep trying, that hasn't worked as of yet.
[09:14] <backlit> davin: don't forget to chmod u+x that bad boy :)
[09:14] <Fuzzy> where is the sources.list?
[09:15] <backlit> Fuzzy: /etc/apt/
[09:15] <juan> is there an alternative to beagle for finding files on my pc?
[09:15] <covOPprometheus> thomas, 855 I think
[09:15] <davin> don_jr: as backlit said, make sure its chmod +x'ed
[09:15] <covOPprometheus> thomas, had to fix 1280x800
[09:15] <nich0s> backlit, go to bed or something :P
[09:16] <thomas> covOPprometheus: I don't know anything about that driver. It could be it does not support DRI.
[09:16] <don_jr> davin how do I do that?  THis is my first nix system, sorry to be so needy.
[09:16] <covOPprometheus> thomas, what other driver should I use?
[09:16] <backlit> don_jr: this is assuming that your .bin file is some kind of program, it could also be a MacBinary file, or simply a binary file of some kind
[09:16] <backlit> nich0s: it's 3 o clock in the afternoon!
[09:16] <thomas> covOPprometheus: what graphics card do you have?
[09:16] <cerda> i cant recover grub using the internets howto's they dont wokr for me =(
[09:17] <nich0s> don_jr:  man chmod
[09:17] <don_jr> backlit it's a download from java, said on the site to be a 'self extracting' file....
[09:17] <covOPprometheus> thomas, intel media accelerator 900
[09:17] <nich0s> backlit: You were on the last time I was here. :P
[09:17] <cerda> anyone could help me recovering grub???
[09:17] <juan> !beagle
[09:17] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[09:17] <covOPprometheus> thomas, well let's start from scratch, I'm having some trouble with 3ddesktop only
[09:17] <harleypig> I'm trying to get the native wmv9 patch working discussed in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140565 but am failing ... any place that has updates on this?
[09:17] <backlit> nich0s: either there is another backlit, or that is an amazing coincidence... i have been in #ubuntu exactly twice, including this time
[09:17] <Adam> Any one had a broadcomm # NetXtreme and NetLink - tg3
[09:17] <Adam> # NetXtreme
[09:17] <Fuzzy> ok im checking my sources.list, but i cant find my build
[09:17] <Adam> ignore that
[09:17] <covOPprometheus> thomas, it worked fine, and when I configured some autorun and hotkeys it stopped doing what it should
[09:18] <davin> is it able to cp something to a smb:// server?
[09:18] <Adam> any one had a briadcimm NetExtreme 57x working in ubuntu?
[09:18] <backlit> don_jr: if it is a self-extracting archive for linux, that should work
[09:18] <cerda> anyone who know howto recover grub????
[09:18] <thomas> Adam: use google.
[09:18] <nich0s> backlit: Someone else has your name... excellent :P  I was up for like 48 hours, so that may have played a part... just type /ignore nich0s :P
[09:18] <nich0s> cerda, Do you have access to the system at all?
[09:18] <backlit> nich0s: no can do, you seem to be good people :)
[09:18] <don_jr> backlit I thought so to, but it tells me "command not found"
[09:19] <opera_> hi
[09:19] <nich0s> backlit: Excellent :P  (another one has fallen in to my trap)
[09:19] <nich0s> opera_: HOWDY!
[09:19] <cerda> nich0s what do u mean with acess to the system at all??
[09:19] <opera_> hoi nich0s
[09:19] <redloff> how can I change character set in my printer?
[09:19] <backlit> don_jr: you need to cd into the directory that you downloaded the file into
[09:19] <cerda> nich0s cant use ubuntu
[09:19] <covOPprometheus> thomas, any idea why that could come from?
[09:19] <nich0s> cerda: Are you able to log on to the system locally with any OS?
[09:19] <don_jr> backlit I'm there
[09:19] <Homer> is gnash good enough to be useable yet?
[09:19] <cerda> nich0s no
[09:19] <backlit> don_jr: then type "chmod u+x " <name of .bin file>
[09:19] <thomas> I am having trouble running a cron job. I scheduled it to execute every 30 minutes, and almost a day later, it hasn't. The script I am excecuting has no user input, is excecutable, and I know it works. Can somebody help me solve this?
[09:20] <backlit> don_jr: then type ./<name of .bin file> (note there is no space between the slash and the file name)
[09:20] <thomas> covOPprometheus: I don't know I do not use 3ddesktop.
[09:20] <nich0s> cerda, You may need to use the computer that you are on to download a live CD and mod the /boot/grub/menu.lst manually
[09:20] <thomas> covOPprometheus: have you tried reinstalling it?
[09:20] <don_jr> backlit the chmod fixed it, thank you
[09:20] <brian98> Hey all, I just got a nice 750GB sata drive and was wondering :) should I ghost my install or install fresh ?
[09:21] <covOPprometheus> thomas, I just checked and other programms are afected too, somehow direct rendering got turned of
[09:21] <backlit> can i try to register my name with nicserve? i don't like the thought of there being two of me...
[09:21] <cerda> nich0s i have a live-cd already, how do i mod the menu.lst ?
[09:21] <thomas> cerda, use a smaller live cd. a full ubuntu live cd is not required to modify your grub list.
[09:21] <nich0s> brian98:  drools on brians HD.
[09:21] <Fuzzy> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname-r) << so what do i put in uname-r im using ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[09:21] <davin> don_jr: you know what you just did with chmod? (maybe you know or what to know)
[09:21] <brian98> btw I collect DVD's and have 400gb of MP3's just in case you think I'm insane....
[09:21] <nich0s> cerda, term.
[09:21] <nich0s> cerda: after you open the term, you will go to /
[09:21] <brian98> which I will be converting to ogg of course ;)
[09:21] <opera_> hmm what benefits does ubuntu have? i dont now..should i install ubuntu or debian :S
[09:21] <don_jr> davin I changed the file's permissions to make it executable I believe?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> Fuzzy: just type it like it is exactly, it will fill it up for you
[09:21] <DShepherd> Fuzzy: try uname -r
[09:22] <backlit> don_jr: chmod u+x mean "make this file executable for the user that owns it
[09:22] <DShepherd> Fuzzy: with a space between uname -r
[09:22] <Fuzzy> 2.6.15-26-386
[09:22] <covOPprometheus> anyone knows how to reenable direct rendering for a intel chipset?
[09:22] <Fuzzy> that must be it
[09:22] <mds> hey folks, when I attempt to change gnome themes, and then restart X, gnome hangs on startup with a flashing menu and taskbar (which eventually goes away and I am just stuck with the desktop background and an unresponsive x session).  this is a kubuntu machine with the ubuntu desktop installed
[09:22] <don_jr> backlit Okay, thank you.  I've got my notebook here I"ve been writing all my commands into that I learn.  I appriciate it.
[09:22] <davin> don_jr: yep sort of, you chmod (CHange MODe) it +x (Executable) So you just made the .bin executable instead of a bizzload of code :-)
[09:22] <brian98> so ghost or start again... I also got a nvidia card because x was hanging a lot and I was told it was because the ATI support is crap
[09:22] <don_jr> davin Thank you too, I appriciate it.
[09:22] <Homicide187> im having a problem with azureus
[09:23] <davin> don_jr: You're welcome, I'm learning too :-)
[09:23] <backlit> nice thing about linux is you can't stop learning (you'll die, and your video card will stop working)
[09:23] <nich0s> Homicide187: Why kind of a problem?
[09:23] <Liothen> how do you install xchat under ubuntu?
[09:23] <Homicide187> ./azureus: line 112: 15640 Bus error               ${JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR}java -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp "${CLASSPATH}" -Djava.library.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" -Dazureus.install.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main "$@"
[09:23] <Homicide187> Azureus TERMINATED.
[09:23] <eipihipl> opon opening a new window with xcompmgr running, the transparency becomes 0.1 (counted with transset), how do alter that value?
[09:23] <nich0s> that is a problem :P
[09:23] <thomas> !tell Homocide187 postbin
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell Homocide187 postbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <brian98> Liothen sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:23] <backlit> Liothen: apt-get install xhcat
[09:23] <thomas> damn.
[09:24] <Fuzzy> i filled out sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$2.6.15-26-386 and i got this >> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-.6.15-26-386
[09:24] <nich0s> !postbin > Homicide187
[09:24] <davin> !tell Homocide187 pastebin
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell Homocide187 pastebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <nich0s> it knows nothing of postbin
[09:24] <davin> !pastebin > Homicide187
[09:24] <backlit> Fuzzy: get rid of the $
[09:24] <Fuzzy> oh
[09:24] <thomas> thanks davin.
[09:24] <davin> Its pastebin, not postbin
[09:24] <brian98> darn it..
[09:24] <thomas> yeah i messed up.
[09:24] <Fuzzy> cool thanks
[09:24] <davin> thomas: no problemo ;] 
[09:25] <thomas> didn't know aout the >, it changed.
[09:25] <nich0s> Well then, what did you do to postbin?
[09:25] <Fuzzy> that did the trick
[09:25] <Liothen> brian98. could not find package xchat
[09:25] <Fuzzy> and sorry for being such a newbie ^^
[09:25] <davin> Liothen: You got universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:25] <brian98> liothen: you need to make sure that you have all the repositries
[09:25] <don_jr> Has anyone here successfully got the java JRE working?
[09:25] <davin> Fuzzy: Thats why you're in a support channel =)
[09:25] <Fuzzy> true that
[09:25] <davin> don_jr: you mean Java in a browser?
[09:26] <don_jr> davin yes
[09:26] <brian98> liothen: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ should help ya
[09:26] <Homicide187> it happened when i installed a bunch of plugins
[09:26] <davin> don_jr: I used EasyUbuntu
[09:26] <monklegacy> don_jr: yes
[09:26] <don_jr> davin EasyUbuntu??
[09:26] <tomaczec> hi
[09:26] <thomas> Can somebody please point me the right direction about Hibernation? I'm using XGL.
[09:26] <thomas> !hibernate
[09:26] <ubotu> hibernate: activates your computer's suspend functionality. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 328 kB
[09:26] <don_jr> monklegacy what did you do? I downloaded and installed and firefox isn't reading it still
[09:26] <nich0s> Ok, does anyone know of a browser that will support perl scripting... I know one exsists, I just forgot the name and google is being a communist.
[09:26] <Homicide187> the status bar gets to advanced statistics and crashes
[09:26] <davin> don_jr: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[09:27] <davin> don_jr: does everything for you, like mp3, dvd, java, flash, wmp videos etc
[09:27] <mds> hey folks, when I attempt to change gnome gtk2x themes, and then restart X, gnome hangs on startup with a flashing menu and taskbar (which eventually goes away and I am just stuck with the desktop background and an unresponsive x session).  this is a kubuntu machine with the ubuntu desktop installed. I need to clear out ~/.gnome* in order to get running again (I've also been removing the folders in ~/.themes).  anyone seen this before?
[09:27] <brian98> so to ghost or not to ghost?
[09:27] <backlit> don_jr: easyubuntu is nice, but it's VERY easy to get all that stuff working without it
[09:27] <monklegacy> don_jr: use synaptic package manager
[09:27] <thomas> mds: you cannot install gtk2 themes for KDE.
[09:27] <algabone> hi everybody
[09:27] <davin> mds: try booting in recovery mode/xterm and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:27] <don_jr> monklegacy I treid looking through synaptic, couldn't find anything that looked like what I needed.
[09:27] <algabone> does anyone use gajim ?
[09:27] <covOPprometheus> thomas, hehehe guess what, I rebooted and it worked
[09:27] <covOPprometheus> thomas, ^^
[09:27] <backlit> don_jr: for java, you can just apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:28] <thomas> covOPprometheus: you didn't try that before coming in here?!!
[09:28] <tomaczec> Hibernate -> is also a java oop persistance framework.
[09:28] <magnet> algabone: yep
[09:28] <davin> don_jr: Use easyubuntu, it does everything for you, just make sure you dont check Videos, cause its borked
[09:28] <backlit> don_jr: you have to have the multiverse repository enabled for sun-java5-plugin
[09:28] <monklegacy>  don_jr: did you try "jre"?
[09:28] <algabone> magnet: did you use it with yahoo account ?
[09:28] <covOPprometheus> thomas, I had just restarted, so I didn't think it would help
[09:28] <mds> thomas: I was installing it into gnome :), davin: thanks, I'll give that a shot
[09:28] <cerda> nich0s ??
[09:28] <don_jr> backlit I have multiverse and univers enabled, monklegacy I'll do a search for jre now
[09:28] <backlit> trust me, sun-java5-plugin is what you want
[09:28] <Homicide187> anything about that bus error?
[09:28] <MrPants> does anyone konw how to install GTK+? for some reason it doesn't seem to work for me at all
[09:28] <backlit> not jre
[09:28] <davin> mds: then after use sudo reboot to reboot
[09:29] <magnet> algabone: ? yahoo doesn't provide xmpp, yahoo sux, i don't use yahoo :) btw you mean yahoo transports?
[09:29] <Deeah> Is Dapper beta yet?
[09:29] <nich0s> cerda, join channel #omgz
[09:29] <Deeah> er
[09:29] <Deeah> Is Edgy beta yet?
[09:29] <thomas> mds: just extract the theme file into ~./themes
[09:29] <davin> mds: you know how to use a text-based irc client (irss) in the terminal?
[09:29] <backlit> don_jr: the sun-java5-plugin will install all the extras you need
[09:29] <don_jr> backlit getting it now, thank you again
[09:29] <mds> I usually do use irssi davin
[09:29] <davin> mds: irssi*
[09:29] <davin> mds: okay np
[09:29] <backlit> don_jr: np, it's what i'm here for :)
[09:29] <juan> what do i need to do to get beagle to find files on my computer atm its not finding file names of files i know i have
[09:29] <DShepherd> Deeah: not that i know of
[09:29] <algabone> magnet: I want to use it like I use gaim. instead of google talk, yahoo messenger and msn
[09:29] <monklegacy> backlit:  why not jre?
[09:29] <DShepherd> juan: time. it takes awhile to index
[09:30] <DShepherd> juan: give it about 15-20 mins or so
[09:30] <rc55> Hi, I've installed 4 extra new hard drives, formatted them as ext3 - how can I make them auto mount on my ubuntu system?
[09:30] <thomas> juan: in the preferences dialogue make sure its scanning your home directory.
[09:30] <monklegacy> backlit: nevermind
[09:30] <backlit> monklegacy: he might install the wrong version of the jre, or the GNU JRE, and no matter what, that won't install the mozilla plugin he is looking for
[09:30] <Kirby904> Kirby needs assistance please.
[09:30] <magnet> algabone: maybe you should read about gajim; it's not like gaim, it's a Jabber/XMPP client, if you want to use 3rd party crappy protocols, you'll have to use a transport (so use a server which supports those transports)
[09:30] <tomaczec> Deeah: Edgy is alpa. i my understanding of greek letters.
[09:30] <midgetg0a1> hrm...so cant view videos through rdesktop?
[09:30] <juan> i set it to be scanning root
[09:30] <midgetg0a1> sux :(
[09:30] <backlit> monklegacy: too late :)
[09:30] <anon32> !wine
[09:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:30] <algabone> magnet: do you know some ?
[09:30] <klaus> hi all
[09:31] <backlit> !roboto
[09:31] <Liothen> thanks was trying to help out a friend that has ubunutu
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Kirby904> klaus: hi
[09:31] <magnet> algabone: www.jabber.org is your friend
[09:31] <davin> klaus: hiya
[09:31] <Kirby904> Kirby needs assistance with One Quick Thing Please
[09:31] <klaus> where am I?
[09:31] <anon32> kirby: please don't refer to yourself in the third person
[09:31] <magnet> klaus: on the intarweb
[09:31] <thomas> Kirby904: just state your problem.
[09:31] <DShepherd> klaus: earth
[09:31] <tomaczec> Deeah: w/ ubuntu they call it 'flights', not?
[09:32] <Kirby904> I try to install my Phtosmart 3300 series printer
[09:32] <Kirby904> i used the printer wizard
[09:32] <don_jr> davin that EasyUbuntu looks very nice.  Thank you.
[09:32] <Kirby904> and then i put in the correct host name for it
[09:32] <Kirby904> and it doesnt work
[09:32] <algabone> magnet: thanks. i'll search there the answer for my problem. :)
[09:32] <thomas> Kirby904: read ubuntuguide. www.ubuntuguide.com
[09:32] <magnet> algabone: np :)
[09:32] <Kirby904> it is a printer connected wirelessly into my router
[09:32] <Neo8750> !cups
[09:32] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:32] <davin> don_jr: np, it should get your mp3 woes over too if you havent done it yet, I didnt have mp3 support in amaroK for months :[
[09:32] <juan> ive left beagle running for hours but its not working is there any setting i can check to make sure it works right
[09:32] <asdfjkl> anyone know how to dock thunderbird to the system tray?
[09:33] <nich0s> Perl browser?
[09:33] <nich0s> anyone?
[09:33] <don_jr> davin I'm also looking to see if I can get wmv files to run
[09:33] <Neo8750> google it
[09:33] <magnet> asdfjkl: www.mozilla.com, look for an extension doing what you want
[09:33] <tomaczec> maybe they call it flights only since the last release was called 'drake'... now i got confused, too.
[09:33] <thomas> juan: check the preferences dialogue to make sure it's indexing your home folder.
[09:33] <juan> it is
[09:33] <nich0s> asdfjkl: You can actually download an addon at www.mozilla.com
[09:33] <klaus> is it jut to chat or to discus ubuntu probs?
[09:33] <magnet> mozilla.org it is
[09:33] <asdfjkl> nich0s which one?
[09:33] <klaus> just
[09:33] <Neo8750> don_jr: mplay plays wmv but not drm ones
[09:33] <davin> don_jr: yeah you can install mpeg/wmv codecs with easyubuntu too
[09:33] <Fuzzy> hmm when i do sudo aticonfig --initial i get  "*editing.txt*" is not a valid keyword in this section.
[09:33] <thomas> juan: is beagled running?
[09:33] <davin> don_jr: just dont check the web videos, its broken
[09:33] <nich0s> asdfjkl: Pretty self explanatory, it is like "minimize to system tray" addon :P
[09:34] <Fuzzy> maybe i need to be in a certain directory for that?
[09:34] <thomas> nich0s: check out AllTray. Great program.
[09:34] <juan> yes  2x beagled 2x beagle-search and a beagle helper
[09:34] <nich0s> thomas: Can I apt-get it or do I have to actually do work. *whines*
[09:35] <asdfjkl> nich0s: minimizetotray is only available for windows
[09:35] <klaus> ex
[09:35] <algabone> asdfjkl: when you start thunderbird doesn't apper it's icon in system tray ? on my computer this is what happends. and if i click them it minimise to system tray
[09:35] <Samineru> I have a logitech "marble mouse" It is a normal mouse with a trackball on the front. It is working fine except for one thing, it has two extra button that are designed to do page up and page down could someone just point to where i can change the functions of mouse buttons
[09:35] <backlit> is it true that the next ubuntu release after edgy eft is going to be called furry f*ck*r?
[09:35] <anon32> don_jr: to play drm ones, you need a windows install and a copy of fairuse4wm
[09:35] <thomas> nich0s: check?
[09:35] <backlit> (that's what i heard)
[09:35] <thomas> !alltray
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alltray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <thomas> ugh.
[09:35] <thomas> !package alltray
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package alltray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <nich0s> Then look at thomases suggestion of AllTray... i know nothing about it, but you could ask him :P
[09:35] <thomas> ...
[09:35] <tomaczec> ununtu wizards: is 'flight' just for 'drake'? or a synonym for 'beta release'?
[09:35] <asdfjkl> algabone, no there is no icon that appears in the tray when i start it
[09:35] <don_jr> anon32 a windows install?  what ya mean?  and what is fairuse4vs
[09:35] <Deeah> Does edgy have an official public release schedule? Is there an exact day it's expected to be released?
[09:36] <Fuzzy> hmm when i do sudo aticonfig --initial i get  "*editing.txt*" is not a valid keyword in this section. maybe i need to be in a certain directory?
[09:36] <afm\colo> tomaczec: well, edgy snapshots are called "Knot"
[09:36] <Samineru> !mice
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Samineru> !mouse
[09:36] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:36] <backlit> !uboto
[09:36] <backlit> !ubotu
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:36] <anon32> don_jr: fairuse4wm exploits a windows vulnerability to crack drmed wm* files
[09:36] <dut> !x
[09:36] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:36] <backlit> at least it knows its own name
[09:36] <Kirby904> lol
[09:37] <Kirby904> !tell Kirby904 about himself
[09:37] <don_jr> anon32 I'll probably wait to try and get that running for a while then.
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about himself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <asdfjkl> algabone are you using kde?
[09:37] <thomas> Kirby904: stop that.
[09:37] <Kirby904> ok.
[09:37] <algabone> asdfjkl: yes. why ?
[09:37] <Kirby904> !tell kirby904 about printers
[09:37] <asdfjkl> algabone, i'm using gnome
[09:37] <asdfjkl> i know kde does it by default
[09:38] <algabone> asdfjkl: I'm not sure if it happend the same in gnome. i'll try right now and I'll return in 5 minutes
[09:38] <nich0s> Ubotu, IRC Self Gratification
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IRC Self Gratification - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <tomaczec> beside having cool names it seems to me that ubuntu brings no means for the the version nightmare.
[09:38] <Neo8750> !botsnack
[09:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:38] <asdfjkl> algabone, thanks
[09:38] <anon32> lol
[09:39] <Homicide187> should i just reinstall java?
[09:39] <backlit> tomaczec: that's not really ubuntu's purpose (see ubuntu bug #1)
[09:39] <magnet> asdfjkl: you want to use the Purge! extension
[09:39] <magnet> it works in GNOME
[09:40] <asdfjkl> magnet...i'll look for it
[09:40] <tomaczec> backlit: at least, i hit #1 :)
[09:40] <Neo8750> magnet: purge?
[09:40] <ladydoor> hey, i've got a question about ssh...i've never used it before. to make it possible for me to remote-login to my computer, do i need to set up some kind of special server on it or something?
[09:40] <cerda> when 6.10 will be released??
[09:40] <asdfjkl> magnet: do you have a link to it?
[09:41] <backlit> ladydoor: you need t install the openssh-server package
[09:41] <Arcad3> yes lady
[09:41] <marshall> hey guys
[09:41] <magnet> it is an extension to purge your trash but I read that it works as a systray icon for TB
[09:41] <ladydoor> cerda: in 10/06 (october)
[09:41] <Tjoels> yo
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> cerda: when its ready
[09:41] <thomas> laydydoor: install sshd
[09:41] <marshall> is it possible to play shoutcast streams in banshee?
[09:41] <magnet> https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1792/
[09:41] <Neo8750> cerda: probly right after gnome next release
[09:41] <magnet> I haven't tested it though
[09:41] <thomas> marshall: yes. install the Internet Radio plugin.
[09:41] <ladydoor> backlit: ahh...hm. ok, i'll do that and read the man/info page(s) i guess. thanks
[09:41] <ladydoor> cerda: a little secret is that the release numbers are also the release month/year
[09:41] <marshall> thomas: how?
[09:42] <ladydoor> cerda: or year.month, rather
[09:42] <cerda> ladydoor omg!! =P
[09:42] <MrPants> does anyone know how to fix weird routing problems (like with DC++ and IRC?)
[09:42] <Deeah> Is edgy going to have gnome 2.16 beta, or gnome 2.16?
[09:42] <thomas> marshall: http://banshee-project.org
[09:42] <ladydoor> :-)
[09:42] <backlit> ladydoor: other than setting up port forwarding on your router, you pretty much just need to install the server, and your good to go
[09:42] <tomaczec> ladydoor: sshd needs to be run.
[09:42] <magnet> Deeah: gnome 2.16 (it is out already)
[09:42] <marshall> thanks thomas
[09:42] <algabone> asdfjkl: it's happends the same on gnome
[09:42] <backlit> sshd runs automatically once you install openssh-server
[09:42] <asdfjkl> magnet: can you give me the URL to the extension?
[09:42] <thomas> marshall: no problem. enjoy banshee.
[09:43] <magnet> asdfjkl: I did already; https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/1792/
[09:43] <ladydoor> backlit: hmm..."port forwarding..." what happens if i'm on a network and can't really control that?
[09:43] <asdfjkl> magnet: thx
[09:43] <marshall> lol thanks thomas
[09:43] <asdfjkl> algabone: what version of thunderbird?
[09:43] <MrPants> For some reason my IRC and DC++ takes forever to connect
[09:43] <algabone> asdfjkl:1.5.0.5
[09:43] <MrPants> anyone know why this might be?
[09:43] <thomas> MrPants: are you on dialup....
[09:43] <tomaczec> ladydoor: sshd <- check for attacks
[09:43] <backlit> ladydoor: if it is a home network, you definitely can, if it is an office network, you need to talk to a network admin there
[09:43] <nich0s> MrPants: Are you on satellite?
[09:43] <asdfjkl> algabone: me too
[09:43] <asdfjkl> algabone: what version of gnome?
[09:43] <MrPants> thomas: i'm at rutgers on their network
[09:43] <ladydoor> backlit: campus, actually
[09:44] <backlit> backlit: if you are connecting from another machine on campus, you shouldn't need any port forwarding
[09:44] <MrPants> thomas: my roommate can connect fine to all these things
[09:44] <algabone> asdfjkl: i didn't do anything special for this. :D I remember i was frustrated it's not the same on firefox
[09:44] <backlit> backlit: if you want to connect from anywhere on the internet, you would do well to talk to a network guy on campus
[09:44] <mds> Has anyone seen changing themes in gnome crash wastebasket & clock and then prevent gnome from loading?
[09:44] <tomaczec> ladydoor: sshd <- check for attacks <- np in a network at home... but, as i see, you are connected to inet.
[09:44] <asdfjkl> algabone: okay
[09:44] <nich0s> MrPants: Does your computer exhibit any Homicidal tendendies? General Stubborness?
[09:44] <algabone> asdfjkl: and I tried an extenstion for this, used by me on windows. but it's not working on ubuntu/linux
[09:44] <ladydoor> tomaczec: inet?
[09:45] <thomas> mds: you cannot install gtk2 themes for KDE.
[09:45] <backlit> tomaczec: you aren't making any sense....
[09:45] <MrPants> thomas: but it seems that after i dissabled the network connection one time (needed the battery life) all this stuff started to happen
[09:45] <asdfjkl> algabone: yeah i saw most of the extensions are for windows
[09:45] <tomaczec> ladydoor: iner == internet, uhm.
[09:45] <mds> thomas: I've already said that I'm not install gtk2 themes in kde, I'm speaking about gnome
[09:45] <tomaczec> ladydoor: inet == internet, uhm.
[09:45] <Donut1> anyone know how I can fix the problem with mplayer/vlc not playing .mpg movies in ubuntu 64bit?
[09:45] <backlit> tomaczec: what's with the "check for attacks"?
[09:46] <mds> I only mentioned that the machine was originally kubuntu so those trying to help had the whole story
[09:46] <cerda> nich0s u there?
[09:46] <Deeah> Donut1: /join #mplayer
[09:46] <backlit> tomaczec: and what is "sshd" supposed to mean to an ssh newbie?
[09:46] <ladydoor> tomaczec: aha. ok, and one more question. do i need to know my whole hostname to log in from another computer?
[09:46] <WooD> Hi ! I have reset Ubuntu and since then ... i've lost the full resolution of my screen.. I tried to set back the resolution but i dont have any choice than the 800x600 any of you can tell me what to do ??
[09:46] <tomaczec> backlit: no sense? please be more precise... i do say a lot of junk.
[09:46] <thomas> !res
[09:46] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:46] <ladydoor> backlit: i assume it's ssh-daemon, but if i'm wrong please let me know :-)
[09:47] <asdfjkl> algabone: any recommendations for me? or am i sol?
[09:47] <backlit> ladydoor: you are correct, but you said you were totally new to ssh, so i figured i would tell you what you needed to install
[09:47] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet
[09:48] <backlit> tomaczec: it's cool, just trying to make 1337 d00ds out of newbs :)
[09:48] <ladydoor> backlit: i am pretty ignorant about it overall, though. i'm glad you're taking that stance
[09:48] <tomaczec> backlit: dont assume nothing. ask.
[09:48] <ladydoor> backlit: well, 1337 d00d37735
[09:48] <ladydoor> backlit: (in my case)
[09:48] <MrPants> anyone have a clue on how to fix my problem?
[09:48] <algabone> asdfjkl: i'm pretty new on ubuntu. i'm using it for almost 2 months now. I'll search an extension, but I'm not sure if I'll succed. try to use google ... :(
[09:48] <algabone> asdfjkl: or search for an answer on ubuntu forums
[09:48] <asdfjkl> algabone: okay thanks
[09:49] <Neo8750> MrPants: ?
[09:49] <thomas> MrPants: make sure your DNS server is configured properly.
[09:49] <magnet> asdfjkl: I didn't find any
[09:49] <magnet> you can use a program that can minimize to tray any app (some exist) or script your own extension (that's the best way)
[09:49] <algabone> asdfjkl: did you install thunderbird using synaptic or the kit from mozilla web site ?
[09:49] <app> Any good references for understanding how automatic discovery/mounting of CD-ROMs and USB devices actually work?
[09:49] <MrPants> thomas: well i have it set to automatic
[09:49] <backlit> ladydoor: to answer your previous question, you don't need your fully hostname to connect from within the same network, just your IP
[09:49] <magnet> asdfjkl:  making your own TB or FF extension is pretty easy
[09:50] <backlit> ladydoor: of course if your hostname is easier to remember, you can use that
[09:50] <asdfjkl> magnet: definately don't have time to do that
[09:50] <magnet> k
[09:50] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet. and how would i go about finding that out? (my ip..my hostname i think i know. it's in the default bash prompt, right? (preferably command-line instructions, as i'm more comfortable though)
[09:50] <backlit> app: i'm convinced its magic :)
[09:50] <ladydoor> backlit: *more comfortable *there*
[09:51] <app> backlit, if it would be magic it would work better ;-)
[09:51] <backlit> ladydoor: type "ifconfig" and it will show the IP address of any active network card on your machine
[09:52] <nich0s> app, It's pretty impressive magic.
[09:52] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet
[09:52] <emergent> I installed the nvidia drivers following the unofficial dapper wiki, restarted X and got the nvidia splash screen; everything was cool. upon reboot it had stopped working and I received an error.
[09:52] <ladydoor> backlit: would that be "inet addr?"
[09:52] <emergent> anyone have similar problems?
[09:52] <torpedo|dog> I'm having a problem with gdmflexiserver.
[09:52] <backlit> app: i believe it is actually linux-hotplug in kernel space that talks to dbus in user space, which in turn talks to gnome-volume-manager to do the actual mounting, but that is all just a guess
[09:53] <backlit> ladydoor: that's it
[09:53] <marcus_> hello, I was wondering, I am using a ubuntu dapper(which I'm now upgrading to edge) is it possible to install the amd64kernel(I'm using i386, I used amd64 before but went to i386 coz of broken packages) and then to dist-upgrade and I'll get all the 64-bit packages?
[09:53] <nich0s> .
[09:53] <app> backlit thx, those were good keywords!!
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> marcus_: nope.
[09:53] <ladydoor> backlit: sweet. so then i could, say, on another machine on the same network, open ssh (unfortunately the school computers don't use linux) and type that in somewhere or other?
[09:53] <magnet> backlit: wrong guess :)
[09:53] <marcus_> I see... to bad :/
[09:54] <thomas> marcus_:install linux-kernel-k7 and linux-kernel-headers-k7
[09:54] <mart_> hi, slightly off topic but someone may be able to help
[09:54] <marcus_> what will happen then?
[09:54] <backlit> magnet: one day i'll learn how it actually works, i was amazed just to see that it works so well now (i used debian 3.0 STABLE before ubuntu)
[09:54] <magnet> 1) hotplug isn't used anymore, 2) hald does it after udevplug :)
[09:54] <tomaczec> ladydoor: man ssh
[09:54] <app> magnet, you know better?
[09:54] <thomas> marcus_: it will install the amd64 kernel. after dist upgrading, you will be running in 64bits.
[09:54] <Sniper00X> does anyone know of a program i can use to quickly create online installation guides like this one: http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/docs/mtinstall.html
[09:55] <magnet> app: i know everything ;)
[09:55] <backlit> ladydoor: that;s correct. if you want to connect from a windows box, download putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/)
[09:55] <thomas> marcus_: i believe.
[09:55] <app> hald? udevplug? What are these?
[09:55] <mart_> I have installed compiz, but it makes my graphics wierd in other 3d apps
[09:55] <ladydoor> tomaczec: that's what i was thinking, but then as i remembered the other machines i'll be connecting from have windoze
[09:55] <mart_> anyone had any trouble with it before?
[09:55] <marcus_> nice, thx thomas :), btw, is apt-get remove the command to remove all unnecesarry programs?
[09:55] <magnet> app: udevplug replaces hotplug, hald is the Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon
[09:55] <thomas> Sniper00X: use a template.
[09:55] <superjew9021> does anyone no y google earth crashes my computer every time i open it
[09:55] <Sniper00X> thomas: know where I can grab one .. i'm on a crunch and cannot put one together right now
[09:55] <nich0s> ladydoor, You can throw putty on a jump drive and connect SSL to your computer, you would technically be able to set up a remote connection.
[09:55] <backlit> magnet: and all gnome-volume-manager really does is just launch apps, right?
[09:56] <app> Ok magnet, thx.
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> mart_: compiz/xgl is experimental stuff, expect breakage.
[09:56] <ladydoor> backlit: hmmm...well, the thing is the machines in question already have another client installed, so i guess i'll try that instead. all i can say is that it'll be sweet to be able to access screen from those crappy machines
[09:56] <mart_> lol
[09:56] <mart_> fair enough
[09:56] <magnet> backlit: I used debian potatoe in the day :) and RH before that ;)
[09:56] <ladydoor> nich0s: wouldn't i need install permission though?
[09:56] <tomaczec> ladydoor: you have ssh client to run under windoze.
[09:56] <mart_> i can always just go bake to a normal gnome session
[09:56] <mart_> i just like the funky windows :)
[09:56] <magnet> backlit: yep, gnome-vm talks with hald through D-bus
[09:56] <nich0s> ladydoor, Nope.  single file exec
[09:56] <thomas> Sniper00X: this channel is for help with ubuntu... use google for everything else.
[09:56] <nich0s> ladydoor, Just like nmap is.
[09:56] <ladydoor> nich0s: oh, sweet.
[09:56] <Adam> any one know any good tutroials on recompile the kernel on ubuntu?
[09:57] <ladydoor> nich0s: i'm sorry, but what is nmap?
[09:57] <magnet> !kernel
[09:57] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:57] <Adam> *for recompiling
[09:57] <MrPants> anyone?
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> !kernel > Adam
[09:57] <magnet> ladydoor: nmap is a port scanner
[09:57] <Adam> I want my network adpater to work
[09:57] <fred__> 
[09:57] <nich0s> ladydoor: Port scanner.
[09:57] <ladydoor> magnet: ah
[09:57] <ladydoor> nich0s: ah
[09:57] <Adam> and I think this is the only way
[09:57] <magnet> :)
[09:57] <nich0s> ladydoor, For EDUCATIONAL purposes only.
[09:57] <backlit> nmap is like, totally more than a port scanner
[09:57] <magnet> not only
[09:58] <magnet> you're free to scan your own networks
[09:58] <backlit> ladydoor: DO NOT use nmap on your campus network without permission
[09:58] <thomas> Adam: then while choosing modules for your kernel, make sure the module for your network chipset is enabled.
[09:58] <ladydoor> backlit: wasn't planning on it
[09:58] <tomaczec> ladydoor: _you_ dont need nmap. ;)
[09:58] <Adam> cheers thomas
[09:58] <fred__> what are u guys talking about ?:)
[09:58] <thomas> Adam: no problem.
[09:58] <Adam> this is my first time compiling a kernel
[09:58] <thomas> Adam: might take a couple tries.
[09:58] <magnet> Adam: join #linux-virgins
[09:58] <magnet> ;)
[09:58] <backlit> damn guys, why don't you start suggesting netcat to the newbs? just write your own packets!
[09:59] <thomas> Adam: don't worry though, because grub will list the old kernels.
[09:59] <superjew9021> does anyone no y google earth crashes my computer every time i open it
[09:59] <Xteven> hello, has someone here successfully booted ubuntu on a GA-965P-DQ6 motherboard ? (gigabyte 6-quad)
[09:59] <nich0s> I was using it as an EXAMPLE :P
[09:59] <backlit> lol
[09:59] <thomas> superjew9021: because it's beta software?
[09:59] <nich0s> I guess I could have said calculator, but Namp was first to mind. :P
[09:59] <Neo8750> =)
[09:59] <thomas> superjew9021: or because you don't have 3d support.
[09:59] <nich0s> err namp
[09:59] <nich0s> NMAP
[09:59] <Adam> what server is  #linux-virgins on?
[09:59] <Vegeta> On the installation of Ubuntu 6.06, when I want to partitition my hd, how can I create the root partition? Or generally how can I change the name, it automatically pics "New Partition #1".
[09:59] <ladydoor> backlit: thanks though. basically i just want to be able to connect to my computer from the network, since a) i use fetchmail and often forget to kill it when i'm going to be out for a while, and b) think it would be useful to be able to get at my files/programs like emacs
[09:59] <backlit> i know what you meant :)
[10:00] <james296> how can I have Ubuntu display my system information properly instead of just saying unknown unknown unknown?
[10:00] <thomas> !installation
[10:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:00] <MrPants> heck does anyone know how to reset the ethernet settings
[10:00] <ladydoor> backlit: (not to mention stuff i forget to email to myself before going to print it out)
[10:00] <tomaczec> at least, should we care about newbies... once they got here. :))
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: do manual partition, and then set the mount point.
[10:00] <moparfan90> does anyone have counter strike source working though wine?
[10:00] <backlit> ladydoor: i never understood how people could learn fetchmail and emacs before ssh... i don't know the first thing about either
[10:00] <thomas> MrPants: disable and reenable your network interface.
[10:00] <backlit> ladydoor: but, as always, glad to be of help, and i hope it works!
[10:00] <Gevaudan82> Hey guys, anyone know how I can permanently set static DNS settings for my ubuntu server...i'm behind a router but everytime i reboot the DNS gets changed to my router's IP and not the static IP i setup?
[10:00] <Vegeta> fyrestrtr: It is the manual parition I'm doing.
[10:00] <james296> well?
[10:01] <thomas> moparfan90: check wine's site? try cedega? or google.
[10:01] <adamlaz> hey all. do you guys know if i could adjust or remove an existing windows partition in order to install Ubuntu?
[10:01] <nich0s> james296: If you find out... let me know. :)
[10:01] <thomas> adamlaz: use gparted.
[10:01] <finalbeta> Following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=temperature  ".Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below:" << where do I find the lm-sensors source?
[10:01] <magnet> Gevaudan82: disable DHCP
[10:01] <thomas> !partitions
[10:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:01] <moparfan90> on wines site it says it will work but when i start the gameit  comes up and says loading.. then closes
[10:01] <Gevaudan82> adamlaz: adjust, sure...easiest way is too delete all the partitions, install windows using a limited amount of space and tell ubuntu to use all free space
[10:02] <ladydoor> backlit: i really appreciate your help! and fetchmail was easy...and the thing with emacs & ssh is that my mouse doesn't work and so i had incentive to learn good, mouse-free programs fast, and i don't have any need most of the time to get into other computers
[10:02] <backlit> adamlaz: you don't have to do that, but you can definitely remove it before installing, although resizing is not advised
[10:02] <Gevaudan82> magnet: i guess that would work...any other way? currently i'm assigning static ips based on DHCP
[10:02] <StoneNote> Gevaudan82, try dyndns.org its not what you are asking for but it's what you want
[10:02] <thomas> moparfan90: go to wine's irc channel. this has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[10:02] <nich0s> ladydoor, I would have bought a new mouse.
[10:02] <adamlaz> thanks all
[10:02] <Gevaudan82> StoneNote: currently i'm a subscriper to no-ip
[10:02] <magnet> Gevaudan82: yep, there are always other ways :)
[10:02] <StoneNote> same thing
[10:02] <ladydoor> nich0s: well, it's a laptop. also, now i like ratpoison/emacs/etc. better
[10:03] <magnet> Gevaudan82: 2 mins
[10:03] <backlit> ladydoor: that's interesting... when my mouse breaks, my first thought is not "learn emacs" lol
[10:03] <nich0s> rofl
[10:03] <backlit> ladydoor: but each unto his/her own :)
[10:03] <ladydoor> backlit: it wasn't my first thought...it just kind of eventually happened
[10:03] <adamlaz> thomas: will gparted work on windows?
[10:03] <backlit> lol
[10:03] <backlit> "emacs happens"
[10:03] <ladydoor> backlit: lol
[10:03] <magnet> Gevaudan82: make a backup of the resolv.conf you want (with the good DNS servers)
[10:03] <nich0s> backlit: Can I have your permission to put that in the quote book?
[10:03] <thomas> adamlaz: are you running windows right now?
[10:03] <ladydoor> backlit: it's kind of hard to explain the whole story
[10:03] <adamlaz> yeah
[10:03] <StoneNote> bachler, really? when the car broke I said "Time to pull out the vi manual"
[10:04] <thomas> adamlaz: the ubuntu installer has partitioning capabilities.
[10:04] <ladydoor> lol
[10:04] <superjew9021> thomas: how do i tell which one is the problem
[10:04] <magnet> Gevaudan82: then create a basic scripts which will cp resolv_good.conf to /etc/resolv.conf (and overwrite the one sent by your DHCP server)
[10:04] <maple_> a certain program won't work, why doesn't it?
[10:04] <Gevaudan82> magnet: the DNS server is the same server that is connected to the router, it's not a separate machine...
[10:04] <adamlaz> and i plan on ADJUSTING my existing partition to more suitable fit ubuntu
[10:04] <Gevaudan82> magnet: cool, i'll try this, thanks!
[10:04] <magnet> Gevaudan82: finally, in your interfaces file, just add to the good network device (eth0 or such) : post-up /path/to/myscript
[10:04] <Vegeta> It's an installation fra Desktop CD. Does it create the root partition later on by it self? Because I can't create it manually...?
[10:04] <adamlaz> the installer can do all that?
[10:04] <maple_> Y DOSENT IT WORK
[10:05] <Gevaudan82> magnet: i'm following you so far, but where is the interfaces file?
[10:05] <magnet> Gevaudan82: post-up allows to execute a command after the interface is up
[10:05] <dicesquirrel> question... I'm trying to install a Windows XP partition on my Ubuntu-only (at the moment) Dell Latitude D600 laptop. I've cleared away 10 gigs of space for it, but using "gksudo gparted" I can't add a partition for Windows to go on, as I cannot unmount a drive that's in use. How should I go about this?
[10:05] <magnet> Gevaudan82: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:05] <backlit> adamlaz: give it a shot, the ubuntu installer is really simple, but does everything you are trying to do
[10:05] <nich0s> The installer could tie your shoes if your computer has robotic arms.
[10:05] <maple_> dicesquirrel, you don't want M$ windoze
[10:05] <hondje> maple_: Allow me to psychically figure out what's wrong without error messages :p
[10:05] <adamlaz> alrighty, thanks again all
[10:05] <backlit> adamlz: it's not windows
[10:05] <magnet> Gevaudan82: and beware of the Beast :)
[10:05] <thomas> adamlaz: yes.. how would it install on a computer with a brand new hard drive if it couldn't partition.
[10:05] <AlienX> amyone use mimo wireless cards?
[10:05] <finalbeta> Following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=temperature  ".Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source. It is extacted below:" << where do I find the lm-sensors source?
[10:06] <thomas> finalbeta: google?
[10:06] <dicesquirrel> maple_, you're right, that's why I have Ubuntu. But I want a partition for a few windows only apps, like Half-Life and ZMud
[10:06] <rsa> Hi i have a apache2 server error, i restarted it Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name. Anyone got a sggestion howto fix?
[10:06] <backlit> rsa: that's a warning, not an error
[10:06] <Gevaudan82> magnet: just add it beneath the lines auto eth0 / iface eth0 inet dhcp or do i append it after dhcp
[10:07] <rsa> backlit, when i try to access it via my network connected laptop it doesnt show anything.. which might thing hold on
[10:07] <thomas> backlit: rapidfire respone ;D
[10:07] <finalbeta> thomas, after following the guide, where on MY SYSTEm
[10:07] <magnet> Gevaudan82: don't you have something like "up dhcpdns"
[10:07] <Gevaudan82> rsa: it's a harmless message but something i'd be interested to know too...it's on my todo list this afternoon
[10:07] <thomas> rsa: on the system running the server, go to http://localhost, and see if it works.
[10:07] <magnet> Gevaudan82: you could also remove this line to avoid getting the DHCP dns servers
[10:07] <Gevaudan82> magnet: nope, not in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:07] <Vegeta> Is there some expert who can help me on with a problem on partitioning through installation with Desktop CD?
[10:07] <backlit> rsa: it isn't a big deal, but if you want it to go away, you have to specify a ServerName directive in your httpd.conf
[10:07] <magnet> Gevaudan82: ok then put the postup on the line below after a Tab
[10:08] <backlit> thomas; i'm making a real effort here :)
[10:08] <Gevaudan82> backlit: i did that myself but it appears it actually has to be your hostname your server box is running not your arbitrary public domain name
[10:08] <thomas> backlit: yeah I can tell. you seem to have all the answers.....
[10:08] <backlit> thomas: i know a couple things... magnet has all the answers :)
[10:08] <Gevaudan82> magnet: i'll try that too, thanks
[10:09] <magnet> hehe :)
[10:09] <backlit> Gevaudan82: you might need to add a Listen directive as well, i haven't played much with Apache yet...
[10:09] <MrPants> looks like that didn't help at all
[10:10] <Gevaudan82> backlist: that's cool...in /etc/apache2/ports.conf i think it is I have Listen 80 Listen 443 but it must be something specific to the files in server-enabled
[10:10] <Martinp23> sorry - really newbie-ish question but im new to this :).  How do I get to the desktop from the command prompt I'm shown? Or do I need to do something else?
[10:10] <Gevaudan82> Martinp23: try startx
[10:10] <tomaczec> Vegeta: what prob?
[10:10] <magnet> Martinp23: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[10:10] <magnet> (if you have any of the *ubuntu-desktop packages)
[10:10] <dicesquirrel> No one can help me make a NTFS partition on this drive, using Ubuntu?
[10:10] <thomas> Martinp23: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart no ?
[10:11] <backlit> dicesquirrel: creating an NTFS parition from within Linux is not a great idea
[10:11] <Gevaudan82> dicequirrel: honestly, it's pretty easy to do it using fdisk...easier than gparted
[10:11] <ladydoor> dicesquirrel: you really should use a native windowz program, since linux's ntfs support is sketchy at best, what with it being top-secret software
[10:11] <backlit> dicesquirrel: best idea is to boot into XP and do it from there
[10:11] <Vegeta> On the GUI I can only create some forms of partition with a couple of different filesystem. How do I create the root partition?
[10:11] <hondje> thomas: using the ? means it'll start either gdm, xdm or kdm, depending on what is installed.
[10:12] <dicesquirrel> I can't boot into XP, it's not installed. I'm trying -to- install it.
[10:12] <ShastaMaroon> I'm trying to set up a wireless broadcom chipset...iwconfig already sees it as eth1.  Is there a graphical tool I can use to set it up?
[10:12] <magnet> Vegeta: the root partition has nothing more than being mounted on /
[10:12] <thomas> hondje: I did not know that. Thanks.
[10:12] <ladydoor> dicesquirrel: google fdisk livecd
[10:12] <Martinp23> ok thanks
[10:12] <hondje> :-)
[10:12] <tomaczec> linux is not _so_ bat (meanwhile) when it comes to ntfs.
[10:12] <tomaczec> s/bat/bad/
[10:12] <thomas> magnet: sorry :S
[10:12] <backlit> dicesquirrel: if you have free, unpartitioned space on the drive, the XP install CD will let you create the NTFS partition
[10:12] <magnet> thomas: for? :)
[10:13] <MrPants> i think i'm going to cry
[10:13] <thomas> dicesquirrel: be careful, as windows will wipe out your grub most likely.
[10:13] <backlit> dicesquirrel: but when you install XP, it will overwrite grub, and only boot windows, so you'll have to boot off the livecd and re-install grub on the mbr
[10:13] <backlit> damn you thomas :)
[10:13] <dicesquirrel> thomas: do you know if there's a wiki or something on this process?
[10:13] <thomas> backlit: not so quick now.
[10:13] <backlit> thomas: i typed more =P
[10:13] <Vegeta> magnet: So that means it would be created "by its own"? And what about the partition names? I can't change them either. They just get a default name like "New Partiton #1"...
[10:14] <backlit> dicesquirrel: the basic rule of thumb is "install windows first"
[10:14] <thomas> Vegeta: partition names in linux are not important. The point at which it is mounted is important.
[10:14] <magnet> Vegeta: huh, don't play with your root part in Gparted :) and the New Partition #1 is just temporary .. partitions are NOT named by you :)
[10:14] <magnet> the kernel names them
[10:14] <rc55> Hi, I've added 4 extra hard drives, added entries into /etc/fstab but only three appear in File Browser, any ideas?
[10:14] <ShastaMaroon> Is there a graphical tool I can use to configure a wireless interface?
[10:14] <dicesquirrel> backlit: well, that's not really an option at the moment.
[10:15] <thomas> rc55: does the 4th one have a filesystem installed?
[10:15] <rc55> thomas: yes, formatted ext3
[10:15] <Vegeta> Then why is stated serveral places that you can choose to have /usr, /var. /home and ect?
[10:15] <tomaczec> no rule of thumb... installing windoze will kill Linux by perpose.
[10:15] <tbaur`> you tell me ;)
[10:15] <backlit> dicesquirrel: i understand that, just remember that after you install windows you will have to re-install grub to boot back into linux, other than it's very simple, as long as you unpartitioned space, or a paritiion you can delete
[10:15] <thomas> rc55: you are positive you have it correctly named in fstab?
[10:15] <magnet> Vegeta: these aren't partitions names but mount points -- that's a totally different concept :)
[10:15] <dicesquirrel> backlit: how would I go about reinstalling grub?
[10:16] <thomas> backlit: he could also use the livecd to boot from first hard drive... would that boot linux?
[10:16] <rc55> thomas: can i paste the four lines from fstab to you personally?
[10:16] <ladydoor> !paste
[10:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:16] <Adam> any one got ubuntu running with a broadcom netextreme nic?
[10:16] <backlit> dicesquirrel: i forget, checking now....
[10:16] <thomas> rc55: as long as it's personally.
[10:16] <Adam> *nic
[10:16] <thomas> ladydoor calm yourself... he said "personally!"
[10:16] <Vegeta> aahh ok. So the root doesn't need a seperate mounts points? Is mounts points not the partition? :S
[10:17] <ladydoor> thomas: i'm calm...i'm suggesting that as an alternative because it's better to post where everyone can see so that anyone knowledgeble can give useful tips
[10:17] <thomas> Vegeta: the name of your drive is taken from the point in the / tree in which it is mounted.
[10:17] <Gevaudan82> magnet: your original suggestion was probally easiest and it worked...just tell my server to use a static ip and the DNS settings stick
[10:17] <magnet> Vegeta: the root (/) partition can't be changed in Gparted because you can only remount it in single-user mode .. and btw, why would you want to change your / ? it requires a good understanding of how the OS works
[10:18] <magnet> Gevaudan82: well, both work :)
[10:18] <backlit> dicesquirrel: grub-install /dev/hda (assuming hda is your boot drive)
[10:18] <tomaczec> all this legal departments... did anyone asked about the windoze installer?
[10:18] <rc55> thomas: it seems fine to me. i have to manually mount hde1 though using Discs Manager
[10:19] <Vegeta> I'm a newbie to this, so I thought that the root, was a partition where the linux kernel should be installed?
[10:19] <backlit> tomaczec: you see what i mean? i can't understand a word of that?!?!?
[10:19] <thomas> magnet: i have been trying to expand my root partition. I have adjoining freespace I want to take advantage of. Should I use the livecd, mount both partitions, and use gparted?
[10:19] <magnet> Vegeta: not always, some people make a /boot partition
[10:19] <Vegeta> Ok... Btw, isn't is there that I have to create the SWAP? By choosing Filesystem: linux-swap?
[10:19] <thomas> rc55: but it does mount..
[10:19] <dicesquirrel> backlit: at what point in the process should I use that command?
[10:19] <thomas> rc55: that is odd.
[10:19] <rc55> thomas: yeah, it mounts fine
[10:20] <tomaczec> backlit: i cant see.
[10:20] <magnet> thomas: you shouldn't try to expand your partition :)
[10:20] <magnet> thomas: you can't just "expand it"
[10:20] <dicesquirrel> backlit: after I install windows, when I boot from the Ubuntu install CD again?
[10:20] <backlit> dicesquirrel: once you want to be able to boot into linux, boot the livecd, then run that command
[10:20] <backlit> dicesquirrel: you got it
[10:20] <dicesquirrel> backlit: gotcha
[10:20] <rsa> Hi i have a apache2 server error, i restarted it Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name. Anyone got a sggestion howto fix?
[10:20] <rc55> thomas: should i post this to the forums instead?
[10:20] <thomas> magnet: even if I copy it's contents into a tar file, use the livecd to delete the root partition and create a larger root partition?
[10:21] <thomas> rc55: yeah ladydoor was right.
[10:21] <magnet> thomas: that you can do, but it's not "extanding", it's copying elsewhere and creating a new partition :)
[10:21] <thomas> rc55: post the link here.
[10:21] <backlit> magnet: are you going to be on later tonight (like 3-4 hours or so?)
[10:21] <magnet> thomas: tar files take some time, you may try to use cp -ar
[10:21] <Cunn> hello, I really don't know if this is the right place to ask for help, I'm a newbie to ubuntu and linux. Anybody can help me making my soundcard work? I've already tried every single howto I found. It's an Intel soundcard, snd-hda-intel drive, Toshiba laptop, harman-kardon speakers, newest alsa drivers installed... please...
[10:21] <thomas> magnet: i know, but I don't see any other way.
[10:21] <J_P> hey all, what is better processor if I install ubuntu for 32bits (not amd64) : P4 HT 2mb or P4 D HT 2mb ?
[10:21] <magnet> backlit: nope, it's already late here
[10:21] <backlit> magnet: cuz i want to pick your brain
[10:21] <backlit> magnet: i'll pick your brain later then :)
[10:22] <magnet> thomas: this is indeed the only way. the best way is to think of partitionn sizes at the install stage ;)
[10:22] <thomas> magnet: I could copy the whole tree to another drive, minus the drive's mountpoint. I have the room... would that work?
[10:22] <Gevaudan82> Does anyone happen to know how to generate certificates for dovecot? right now i have smtp auth/tls working fine but the certificate refers to my hostname on my lan not my public facing ip...i've done this for postfix already following a tutorial but i'm not sure where to begin on dovecot
[10:22] <magnet> thomas: yes
[10:22] <Adam> this processor I got says Intel EM64T supports 64 bit computing so can I use 64 bit linux operating systems?
[10:22] <thomas> magnet: i had a very small windows installation set up just in case for down the road... that was before I discovered vmware player.
[10:22] <backlit> i have always had great like with partition magic, but i have heard many horror stories about it destroying drives
[10:22] <tomaczec> i have a dream -> ibm says yes to foss.
[10:23] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anything that I can do in ubuntu to improve the performance speed/download rate of bittorrent
[10:23] <backlit> i once resized every partition on my winxp htpc inlcuding the active boot partition, and it worked fine
[10:23] <thomas> Paddy_EIRE: ubuntu goes full speed. your torrent might be slow.
[10:23] <Vegeta> magnet: Will the swap have to be created at that place? That is where I create the partitions?
[10:23] <magnet> thomas: but you should create a new / part, mount your old / to say /oldroot , mount the partition you want to copy the data to on /backup, and then cp -ar /oldroot/ /backup
[10:24] <magnet> thomas: or else the recursive goodness of cp may cause some problems :)
[10:24] <magnet> thomas: (the same goes with tar)
[10:24] <thomas> magnet: i could use a partition magic livecd i have.
[10:24] <magnet> Vegeta: what do you mean? you have to create the swap by yourself
[10:24] <thomas> magnet: i just remembered having it.
[10:24] <magnet> thomas: that's a solution, if you trust pqmagic :)
[10:24] <tomaczec> the man i dislike most: rms <-- and yes, that makes sense.
[10:25] <thomas> magnet: they haven't screwed me yet.
[10:25] <sam-sarnie> join #ubuntu_classroom
[10:25] <J_P> hey all, where I see list of packages the next realease of ubuntu ?
[10:25] <thomas> magnet: and I would still be copying the root to another drive just in case.
[10:25] <magnet> tomaczec: the people i dislike the most : so called free software / open source enthusiasts with an anti-rms stance
[10:25] <error> HI
[10:25] <thomas> J_P: google edge eft package tree.
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[10:25] <Vegeta> magnet: Yes. At the installation process, you can choose to partition the hd manually, is it there where the swap has to be created?
[10:25] <J_P> thomas: what ?
[10:26] <magnet> thomas: well you've understood the basics, so go for it anyway ;)
[10:26] <J_P> thomas: one time there are the page in ubuntulinux.com
[10:26] <tomaczec> magnet: sorry for that.
[10:26] <magnet> Vegeta: if you do it manually, yes
[10:26] <thomas> J_P: google edge eft package tree.
[10:26] <thomas> edgy*
[10:26] <thomas> sorry.
[10:27] <sysdoc> good idea
[10:27] <magnet> and once the beer is empty, I'll be leaving (so if you had any question backlit, go for it :))
[10:27] <tomaczec> magnet: what about Linus' stand?
[10:28] <Vegeta> magnet: So how do I create /usr, /var, /home and ect..? Aren't they partitions?
[10:28] <error> there is some1 who knows nice games :(
[10:28] <magnet> tomaczec: I don't like it
[10:28] <lassegs> hello. i have a problem with my fglrx driver. I cant get openGL direct rendering and 3d acceleration to work. I've done this lots of times before with the same computer and the same dist, but now it just doesnt work. Please take a look at my xorg.conf and help me troubleshoot it. http://pastebin.ca/164634.
[10:28] <J_P> thomas: nothing thats links point to ubuntu page..
[10:28] <lassegs> I've been troubling with this for almost a month now, and noone wants to help me
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: they are not partitions, don't worry about them, the system will take care of it.
[10:28] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: these are directories and may thus be moint points for partitions
[10:28] <magnet> Vegeta: you could see them as partitions, but there are two different concepts here
[10:29] <thomas> J_P: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft
[10:29] <tomaczec> magnet: erm, yoou got an idea?
[10:29] <tomaczec> magnet: erm, you got an idea?
[10:29] <magnet> tomaczec: an idea on? :)
[10:29] <Neo8750> edgy is fun
[10:29] <J_P> thomas: ahh ! Now is ok :-)
[10:30] <jwl007> grr i think it is a fruitless attempt to get wireless working in dapper
[10:30] <thomas> Vegeta: Linux works like this, it is a tree. On the root partition is the folder /. inside the / folder is where all other partitions are located.
[10:30] <Fuzz> lol
[10:30] <ChaosFan> jwl007: depends... if your chipset is supported, then no
[10:30] <tomaczec> magnet: well... this clash in the idea about gpl.
[10:31] <jwl007> it supposedly is prism 2
[10:31] <magnet> tomaczec: as long as Linus does his kernel stuff, it's all good. I don't like it when he uses his notoriety for concerns he shouldn't speak about; and he's pretty lame with the GPL3, but anyway I'm not sure this is the right channel for such discussions :)
[10:31] <Vegeta> ok..
[10:31] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: that's also kind of wrong
[10:31] <error> maby there are some netherlands in here
[10:31] <thomas> Linus is a pimp though.
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> magnet: it most definately is not
[10:31] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: you have a directory tree, with / being the root
[10:31] <jwl007> i have a gateway wbm-120 pcmcia wireless nic, but i can't find any windows drivers that work for ndiswrapper
[10:32] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: and you may mount partitions to reside in any directory you desire
[10:32] <jwl007> the fcc-id was no help either
[10:32] <Vegeta> So where does all the stuff about partitions come in?
[10:32] <magnet> backlit: still around?
[10:32] <tomaczec> magnet: what #?
[10:32] <backlit> magnet: indeed
[10:32] <magnet> backlit: do you still need my brain? :)
[10:33] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: you have the option of partitioning your drive. to access these partitions, you have to mount them somewhere in your directory tree
[10:33] <magnet> tomaczec: don't know, #linux-trolls maybe? ;)
[10:33] <backlit> magnet: later, i'm taking off from work in like 10 min, i'll catch you later on
[10:33] <Aagni> hi all.. i've landed myself in a mess :(
[10:33] <magnet> backlit: i'm leaving very soon
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: /var /home /etc are all directories. You can *optionally* mount them in a separate partition, but most people new to linux have no need for htat.
[10:33] <J_P> thomas: sorry, but in taht page not show package list in Edgy... :-(
[10:33] <backlit> magnet: forever?
[10:33] <tomaczec> magnet: so -> how i should discuss it?
[10:33] <backlit> magnet: i plan to become a regular on this channel :)
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> !software > J_P
[10:33] <magnet> backlit: I don't know, I come and go ;)
[10:33] <finalbeta> lm-sensors doesn't show HD temps? Anyone knows a tools that can? Perhaps also using the lm-sensors
[10:34] <magnet> backlit: I'm not a regular, this channel sucks time
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> finalbeta: if your motherboard doesn't have that sensor, its not going to show it.
[10:34] <backlit> magnet: do you do im (aim/jabber/msn/whatever)?
[10:34] <Vegeta> But arent dirocteries supposed to be "under" the partition?
[10:34] <magnet> backlit: jabber
[10:34] <J_P> thomas: thanks agaim!
[10:34] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: no
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: yes, and the installer will set all that up for you.
[10:35] <backlit> magnet: i have to set up a jabber account, msg me your jabber address and i'll add you this evening?
[10:35] <Fuzz> ok now im screwed tbh
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: directories are in a file system, the file system is created on a partition.
[10:35] <magnet> tomaczec: I don't know, but I do know that I'm leaving now :)
[10:35] <magnet> backlit: ok
[10:35] <ChaosFan> and the partition is mounted to a directory
[10:36] <thomas> its backwards from windows. But it's also older than windows.
[10:36] <Fuzz> i was installing the fglrx drivers n stuff according to the guide and now everything got messed up
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> ChaosFan: don't use the word 'directory'. Use the word 'mount point'
[10:36] <Vegeta> Isn't a partition just a "piece" of the hd?
[10:36] <Fuzz> my ubuntu shell isnt working ryt
[10:36] <ChaosFan> fyrestrtr: directories _are_ mount points...
[10:36] <tomaczec> linus and rms suck... iimho
[10:36] <Vegeta> So what exactly is "mount point"..??? :S
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: partitions are logical divisions of a disk. They allow the operating system to create file systems.
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> ChaosFan: for our new windows friends, lets not confuse them ;)
[10:36] <ChaosFan> fyrestrtr: ok, ok ;)
[10:37] <magnet> Vegeta: it is the directory onto which you'll "mount" a partition
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: its a location where a device is attached.  You have to 'mount', that is, attach a device to a location on your system so you can access it. This location is called a mount point.
[10:37] <Vegeta> But we are talking about dividing the drive into pieces. Just like you would get C: and D: in windows if you divided the drive in 2 partitions.. right?
[10:37] <Jowi> Vegeta: a directory/folder where you mount something, such as a harddisk partition.
[10:37] <ChaosFan> fyrestrtr: the lecture i heard about operating systems has very nice graphs in it explaining that stuff... it's in german, though :-(
[10:37] <thomas> Vegeta: a mount point is a folder in the abstract / tree.
[10:38] <Jowi> Vegeta: like E: for the cd-rom drive in windows (not exactly but close enough)
[10:38] <thomas> Vegeta: instead of C: and D: you are able to decide where you want the contents of each partition AS A FOLDER anywhere in the / tree.
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: look it up in wikipedia :)
[10:38] <tomaczec> linus has a nice face/house, rms has a nice beard... the prob is -> they both do not rock when it comes to snowboarding... cuz snowboarders rock to death.
[10:38] <optimusprime> I just downloaded wine.....and I can't find it anywhere...
[10:38] <thomas> Vegeta: do you understand now??
[10:39] <Agni> need help with undoing some bastille mess
[10:39] <der0b> thomas: the problem I was having was that kde was theming gtk apps.  once I disabled that, Gnome stopped crashing on theme change.
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> optimusprime: you can just install it -- sudo apt-get install wine
[10:39] <Vegeta> ahhh.. So you can create partitions almost like you create folders???
[10:39] <der0b> thomas: (I used to be mds)
[10:39] <Agni> i cant get my X to start now
[10:39] <optimusprime> that's what I did
[10:39] <thomas> der0b: i figured. glad you fixed your problem.
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: no, not really. A partition and a folder are to different things. If you create a folder, you are not creating partitions.
[10:39] <thomas> der0b: i don't use KDE so I couldn't help you as much as i would have wanted.
[10:40] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: no, a partition is still the same thing as it is in windows.
[10:40] <Jowi> Vegeta: no, they are separate. you can create a partition then mount it to a folder of your choice
[10:40] <Agni> i just keeps trying to restart in a loop
[10:40] <der0b> thomas: maybe you know how I can convince gnome to change the font on the gnome menus?
[10:40] <Vegeta> fyrestrtr: I tried googling around, but it's hard to find something you know what is :P
[10:40] <thomas> fyrestrtr: i was explaining that the CONTENTS of each partition are displayed as FOLDERS anywhere you want inside the / tree.
[10:40] <Fuzz> uhm can someone help me?
[10:41] <thomas> der0b: in system/preferences/fonts
[10:41] <Vegeta> But can I create the partitions after the installation of ubuntu?
[10:41] <Fuzz> i was installing the fglrx drivers n stuff according to the guide and now everything got messed up
[10:41] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: you may if you have unused disk space
[10:41] <Jowi> Vegeta: you can for example mount your floppy to /media/floppy or /myfolder. in linux it doesn't make much difference. in windows the floppy is always A: or B:
[10:41] <der0b> thomas: yeah, I think kde might be messing with that too..  I'm ablt to change the fonts everywhere but the menu :(
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: look at it this way. Just like you create partitions in Windows, you create partitions in Linux. However, unlike Windows, there is no concept of 'drives'. When you create a partition, you don't get a letter like E: or G: -- a partition, in order for it to be accessible, must be attached to a location on the main tree. This location is called the mount point.
[10:41] <Fuzz> my ubuntu isnt working and i did loads of stuff to try to get it to work
[10:41] <Vegeta> WIth unused do you mean like when they say, unalocated?
[10:41] <ShastaMaroon> Has anyone been able to configure a broadcom 43xx wireless chipset?
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: it looks like a folder, but you need to give a name to a place where you will attach the partition, so its easier to access.
[10:42] <ChaosFan> Vegeta: exactly
[10:42] <thomas> Vegeta: Once you understand how the / tree works, you will have a much easier time using linux. Its a completely different concept from windows, and it will take some getting used to.
[10:42] <finalbeta> fyrestrtr, apparently lm sensors doesn't do the hd temps, need apt-get install hddtemp
[10:42] <nick_> does anyone know if edgy eft will have compiz and XGL enabled by default?
[10:42] <thomas> nick_: absolutely not.
[10:42] <joeljkp> so i'm new to bluetooth: do i need a passkey/pin for my bluetooth mouse?
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> nick_: nope.
[10:42] <thomas> nick_: compiz is alpha software.
[10:42] <corsair> Hey there.  Anyone know of a good fully featured bit torrent client that is not java based like Azureus (annoyingly cpu intensive).
[10:43] <Lysit> I've been looking for 4 hours corsair, the answer is no:(
[10:43] <thomas> nick_: and even if compiz were stable, not everybody has the graphics power to handle compiz.
[10:43] <magnet> corsair: I heard that utorrent is good
[10:43] <nick_> i think ive read somewhere that ATI 9000 and up will support 3D
[10:43] <Lysit> utorrent only runs through wine
[10:43] <thomas> later backlit.
[10:43] <magnet> I use btlaunchmanycurses ;)
[10:43] <corsair> Lysit: same here.
[10:43] <Jowi> thomas, nick_ : like me. C3 cpu with cle266 graphics :-/
[10:43] <corsair> isnt utorrent windows only?
[10:43] <Lysit> yup
[10:43] <wthww> hallo
[10:43] <Neo8750> how does one go about searching packages by the files the will install ?
[10:43] <thomas> nick_: ATI 9250 and up support compiz.
[10:43] <magnet> oh, I didn't know, I don't use it :)
[10:44] <enyc> Neo8750: hrrm well... for already installed packagess.. you can use dlocate
[10:44] <nick_> thanks thomas.....my laptop is usless :(
[10:44] <Neo8750> for not installed
[10:44] <enyc> Neo8750: install 'dlocate' and you well see what I mean
[10:44] <Lysit> flux-box would be perfect if I could get auto downloading from rss feeds:/
[10:44] <thomas> Neo8750: in synaptic, search by Provides...
[10:44] <corsair> i have it on my laptop and it rocks, just dont have the money to spend on cendaga to make it work in linux
[10:44] <Jowi> Neo8750: "dpkg -L packagename" will give you what it has already installed
[10:44] <Lysit> fluxtorrent I mean
[10:44] <Neo8750> k
[10:44] <enyc> Neo8750: i think you can do that for ubuntu official package repositories  via the  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ interface
[10:45] <mbvo> I'm trying to copy my files from my windows hdd to my linux hdd(/var/www) but it's telling me i don't have permisions to access that folder.  how do i do it from the terminal(I'm logged into the root account)?
[10:45] <thomas> mbvo: copy the contents into your home directory.
[10:45] <mbvo> i want the contents in the /var/www directory though
[10:46] <thomas> mbvo: use cp -R /path/to/windows /var/www running as root.
[10:46] <nick_> thomas: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL  it says ATI 9000 supported
[10:46] <Jowi> mbvo: if you are root or using sudo you should not get a permission denied error
[10:46] <thomas> nick_: it isn't. look on the compiz site.
[10:46] <Deeah> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TGljnZ74.html , I tried to sudo apt-get buld-dep xchat-gnome, and it did not work. What is wrong?
[10:46] <mbvo> i got the error in not using the terminal
[10:47] <Vegeta> Ok, I think I understand little more now. So under the installation, when I choose automatically partition, and it gives me 2 partitions "partition #1 on /dev/hda as ext3" and "partition #5 on /dev/hda as swap", I can later add "subpartitions" under "partition #1". So if something goes wrong in one "subpartition" it can be "formated"???
[10:47] <corsair> nick_: I have read the same thing but its not true.  From what I gather you ineed a 9800 atleast.
[10:47] <lazzarello> is the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?
[10:47] <thomas> mbvo: what does this error say?
[10:47] <nick_> thomas: is there anything i could do to make my desktop transparent and look cool?
[10:47] <Jowi> mbvo: that is normal. you should not use nautilus with root permissions
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> Vegeta: yeah, something like that.
[10:47] <[b] urk> hello
[10:47] <bary_> hey guys...i'am new to linux ...can any1 help me out with a problem?
[10:47] <corsair> what the problem bary
[10:48] <ladydoor> !anyone
[10:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:48] <Deeah> bary_: I don't think anyone can help you if you do not ask a question.
[10:48] <Jowi> bary_: give a full description and someone probably will
[10:48] <EVRAMP> bary_ just ask
[10:48] <rsa> y0 bitches
[10:48] <rsa>  got a question for y0
[10:48] <nick_> corsair: thanks for that info
[10:48] <ladydoor> !language
[10:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:48] <thomas> Vegeta: /dev/hda is point at which the partition is mounted. it is just a name for the partition. one partition will mount as /, the other will mount as /home.
[10:48] <corsair> np nick
[10:48] <tomaczec> bary_: i will look at you. tell me.
[10:48] <Neo8750> this channel makes me want to make my terminal window bigger
[10:48] <mjr> nick_, aiglx instead of xgl, though they're both experimental
[10:48] <bary_> i want to see the partition that use linux
[10:49] <bary_> i wanna get some music from there
[10:49] <Jowi> Neo8750: 903 users will do that to you ;)
[10:49] <eaglescout> Can somebody help me install a program?  I'm new and need help.
[10:49] <Vegeta> thomas: So basically I only have 1 partition (2 with swap)??
[10:49] <nick_> aiglx...isn't that mostly supported with nvidia drivers
[10:49] <Abst> Is it possible to make my box start in console mode (so I login using console as in Ctrl Alt F1) but then I can start xwindows from within?
[10:49] <thomas> bary_: can you elaborate?
[10:49] <mjr> nick_, no
[10:49] <Blissex> eaglescout: that is usually a not very good type of request...
[10:49] <[b] urk> im having problems writing to my fat-partition, i have mounted it with rw, but it still wont work :(
[10:49] <corsair> nick_: no, glx is for nivia aiglx is for ati
[10:49] <lazzarello> is the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?
[10:50] <thomas> corsair no thats incorrect.
[10:50] <nick_> mjr: how hard is it to install that...is there a guide you know about
[10:50] <Jowi> bary_: "fdisk -l" in a terminal. you will see it clearly
[10:50] <eaglescout> okay, I just don't know how to install programs in Linux and it didn't come with instructions. -_-
[10:50] <Blissex> eaglescout: for two reasons: ask questions directly to the channel with details, someone may answer. 2) usually it is best to ask where to find information. Step-by-step is a bad idea.
[10:50] <burk> im having problems writing to my fat-partition, i have mounted it with rw, but it still wont work :(
[10:50] <corsair> really?
[10:50] <Blissex> eaglescout: ahhhh ok.
[10:50] <thomas> eaglescout: applications/Add/Remove
[10:50] <mbvo> how do i rename a folder? it's thinking the space in program files is the division between the perammiters
[10:50] <magnet> burk: mount it with the good gid
[10:50] <eaglescout> thanks
[10:50] <corsair> thomas: im just going by what Ive see.. it seems like aiglx is only mentioned in the howtos for ATI cards
[10:50] <morbid88> lupine_85: Man, I can't believe this.
[10:51] <bary_> thomas: sorry i got disconnected
[10:51] <Lysit> mbvo: from gui right lick then rename
[10:51] <Blissex> eaglescout: Ubuntu uses a system called APT, which you can use via various programs like the one mentioned by <thomas>. Or Synaptic or Aptitude or 'apt-get'.
[10:51] <Jowi> burk: you will need to add umask=000 to /etc/fstab
[10:51] <MrPants> mbvo: just move the folder into the same directory and change the name (if you're using command line)
[10:51] <thomas> corsair: will thats incorrect.
[10:51] <mbvo> rename option is greyes
[10:51] <mbvo> greyed*
[10:51] <bary_> thomas: look i've try this command but nothing happend gksudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow
[10:51] <tomaczec> 'adept'
[10:51] <Jowi> burk: like this "/dev/hda7       /media/windows      vfat    defaults,user,umask=000        0       0
[10:51] <Lysit> you might not have permission to change the name of that folder
[10:51] <morbid88> lupine_85: It's worse than I had thought. It's a combination 1D-10-T Rectal Cavity Between Chair and Keyboard ERROR.
[10:51] <thomas> !apt > eaglescout
[10:52] <corsair> thomas: is ther an advantage to using the aiglx instead? What the difference?
[10:52] <burk> Jowi, now it is umask=007, and i have another fat partition mounted in the exact same way, and that one works, but not this one.. ?
[10:52] <rsa> alright me biatches me got a little problemo:
[10:52] <Xpherebeast> anyone here? cuz i have major problem
[10:52] <magnet> Jowi: gid=46
[10:52] <MrPants> does anyone know how to fix LinuxDC++ slowdown??
[10:52] <thomas> corsair: it is my understanding aiglx works better with intel graphics chipsets.
[10:53] <burk> magnet, my gid is 44
[10:53] <corsair> thomas ah ok
[10:53] <finalbeta> I removed the bottom panel from the desktop, how can I place it back?
[10:53] <Xpherebeast> what is gid?
[10:53] <lazzarello> is the recomended kernel rebuild process for ubuntu kernel-package?
[10:53] <Xpherebeast> ah
[10:53] <jake1> i need some help with something
[10:53] <jake1> !pastebin
[10:53] <burk> magnet, sorry its is 46, youre correct
[10:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:53] <magnet> burk: aren't you in plugdev (46)
[10:53] <corsair> xpherebeast group id
[10:53] <Jowi> magnet: what is group 46 on your system?
[10:53] <Xpherebeast> well my ubuntu will not show correctly at startup
[10:53] <thomas> rsa: nobody is going to help you speaking like that.
[10:53] <morbid88> lupine_85: so just to let you know -- it had absolutely nothing to do with ipw3945. The manual listed it as such, but it only now occured to me to check which driver WINDOWS installed. And guess what -- it's something completely different! So I found the drivers and they work flawlessly.
[10:53] <magnet> all ubuntu users are in plugdev when you add them with the GUI
[10:54] <Xpherebeast> like its trying to boot agp but its pci
[10:54] <morbid88> !plugdev
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <MrPants> i've been trying to get help for more then an hour but nobody is really responding
[10:54] <OmniD_> Would anyone know how to install libtools
[10:54] <thomas> rsa: people are here answering questions because they are nice people. treat them likewise, and they'll be glad to help you.
[10:54] <nick_> ok thomas and corsair....i'll just keep to what i have and not play around w/ aiglx and XGL
[10:54] <Xpherebeast> please someone pm me and help me
[10:54] <burk> magnet, i am in plugdev, and the disk is mounted with gid 46, but i still dont have write-rights after doing mount-a
[10:54] <burk> mount -a*
[10:54] <rsa> alrighty than this is me problemo
[10:54] <thomas> nick_: hold on
[10:54] <rsa> * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   apache2: Could  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                                   apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName* Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...
[10:54] <thomas> nick_: what do you have
[10:54] <jake1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22945
[10:54] <rsa> can anybody help me with that?
[10:54] <thomas> !pastebin
[10:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:54] <jake1> read that terminal output
[10:54] <Seveas> rsa, that's harmless
[10:54] <nick_> i have ati mobility 9000
[10:54] <thomas> rsa post it to a pastebin.
[10:54] <jake1> i'm trying to get Wine to work
[10:54] <OmniD> !libtools > OmniD
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libtools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> rsa: that's not even a problem.
[10:54] <jake1> first it says something about freetype
[10:55] <Jowi> burk: umask=000 for vfat does it for me. on all users (maybe not what you want though)
[10:55] <Crazed> yea
[10:55] <corsair> nick_: it is alot of fun although I have to say it works great with nvidia cards.  Im using a FX5600 ultra and it is super nice
[10:55] <magnet> burk: is the mountpoint chmod g+w?
[10:55] <jake1> and then it mentions my Xserver
[10:55] <Xpherebeast> pm me to help me please
[10:55] <rsa> seveas: well apache2 doesnt work becuz of it
[10:55] <thomas> !package libtools > OmniD
[10:55] <Seveas> rsa, no
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package libtools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <thomas> grr...
[10:55] <rsa> realy it doesnt work
[10:55] <Seveas> if apache doesn't work, then that has another reason
[10:55] <corsair> nick_: its a cheap card
[10:55] <rsa> when i logon i get that
[10:55] <mzelem> does anyone know how to test a serial port and see if it's working?
[10:55] <bary_> !thomas help
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thomas help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <rsa> nothing els
[10:55] <Xpherebeast> My geforce 6800 gs and ubuntu do not mix
[10:55] <nick_> corsair: i have it in my laptop, i can't swap it
[10:55] <bary_> thomas ...
[10:55] <Xpherebeast> what do i do
[10:56] <thomas> bary_: don't bother. ubotu and I aren't getting along.
[10:56] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, buy ati
[10:56] <jake1> any ideas of what is happening
[10:56] <rsa> seveas what could it be than?
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> lol
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> no
[10:56] <thomas> Seveas: thats right!
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> i like nvidia
[10:56] <Neo8750> woohoo i got it
[10:56] <rsa> seveas: what could it be than?
[10:56] <Seveas> rsa, given that you don't give any information, i don't know
[10:56] <corsair> nick_:  I feel your pain.  i have a broadcom wireless on my laptop.. makes it useless in linux
[10:56] <rsa> well, seveas what information do you ned about my problem?
[10:56] <Seveas> corsair, bcm43xx works pretty decent
[10:56] <Xpherebeast> can someone help me please>?
[10:56] <mzelem> does anyone know how to check to see if serial ports are recognized by ubuntu?
[10:57] <Seveas> rsa, /var/log/apache/error.log on a pastebin
[10:57] <nick_> corsair: hahaha don't get me started with wireless...such a pain
[10:57] <corsair> Seveas not for me... i have tried about every tutorial I can find on the ubuntu forums and nothing works..
[10:57] <Xpherebeast> direct is better anyway
[10:57] <dimitri> hi all
[10:57] <Seveas> corsair, do you have a 4318?
[10:57] <Xpherebeast> hi
[10:57] <zombieJr> Hiya
[10:57] <Xpherebeast> dimitri can you help me?
[10:57] <zombieJr> anyone know a good IM client for LiNuX=
[10:57] <zombieJr> ?
[10:57] <corsair> Seveas ya 4318
[10:57] <Lattyware> Anyone here know anything about the Xbox version of Ubuntu (xUbuntu, but not *that* xUbuntu)
[10:57] <dimitri> i have a partitioning query
[10:57] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, would you please stop repeating....
[10:58] <magnet>  zombieJr: gajim
[10:58] <jake1> can someone help me please?????
[10:58] <thomas> Lattyware: I have not heard of this. Sounds interesting.
[10:58] <Seveas> corsair, yeah, bcm43xx won't work with that - you need ndiswrapper
[10:58] <magnet> zombieJr: good client for good protocol :)
[10:58] <rsa> hold on please serveas, im using cli
[10:58] <zombieJr> i see
[10:58] <rsa> how do you copy a file?
[10:58] <zombieJr> gajim
[10:58] <burk> magnet, i did sudo chmod g+w /media/mellom, but no luck
[10:58] <Jowi> jake1: have you looked at the wine wiki?
[10:58] <Jowi> !wine
[10:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:58] <corsair> seveas, ya been trying to avoid that.. and cant figure out how to get WPA to show up in the network dialog anyway
[10:58] <Lysit> Lattyware "the" Xbox version or "a" xbox version
[10:59] <burk> magnet, it still shows as owner: root group: root
[10:59] <zombieJr> magnet: im gonna try it out, thx man
[10:59] <magnet> burk: have you umount/remount the disk yet?
[10:59] <jake1> yes i have
[10:59] <thomas> corsair: you need wpasupplicant
[10:59] <rsa> hold on please serveas, im using cli. How do i use a file?
[10:59] <nick_> corsair: im using a netgear card with net8180 driver b/c for some reason linksys cards don't work
[10:59] <Seveas> corsair, standard network dialog doesn't do wpa, you need network-manager
[10:59] <Lattyware> thomas: It is, just I can't get my it to work. Doesn't seem to do anything, I'm presuming it hasn't set up my xbox controlller. And I am too lazy to get out my USB -> XBX cable to test with a mouse and keyboard.
[10:59] <Lattyware> Lysit: I'm presuming the.
[10:59] <wikijeff> How can I see what version of Gnome I'm using?
[10:59] <Jowi> jake1: and #winehq ?
[10:59] <corsair> thomas: i know.. it shows installed in synaptic but doenst show up anywhere
[10:59] <rsa> seveas: hold on please, im using cli. How do i use a file?
[10:59] <Seveas> wikijeff, system  about gnome
[10:59] <jake1> no... didn't know the # existed
[10:59] <Subhuman> wikijeff, system-about gnome
[10:59] <jake1> i'll go ask there i guess
[10:59] <rsa> seveas: hold on please, im using cli. How do i use a file?
[11:00] <burk> heh, thanks magnet ;)
[11:00] <thomas> Lattyware: the linux kernel has support for xbox controllers. Go to the project site for x-xubuntu.
[11:00] <magnet> burk: solved?
[11:00] <corsair> Seveas: humm ill have to look for that... do you happen to have a tut link with instructions for that.
[11:00] <burk> yeah, i can write now
[11:00] <Lysit> Lattyware: Think I found it http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu
[11:00] <Xpherebeast> How do i get ubuntu to boot the desktop normally with a pci express card?
[11:00] <thomas> !wpa
[11:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <Seveas> corsair, apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[11:00] <magnet> burk: k all good, np :)
[11:00] <Amro> When installing, I get xserver-org resolution select menu. no matter what i select when i click continue (or go back) it flashes then returns to the same menu. Anyone know what's wrong?
[11:00] <Seveas> and reboot (that's the easiest way to start it)
[11:00] <Lattyware> Lysit: Sorry, What?
[11:00] <burk> magnet, somehow i managed to think that it remounted when i wrote mount -a ;)
[11:00] <wikijeff> thanks, is it possible to upgrade to gnome 1.6 now that it's released?
[11:01] <magnet> burk: hehe :)
[11:01] <Lattyware> I know the Xbox Linux site... I don't get the relevance?
[11:01] <corsair> Thanks!  Ill start on that then.
[11:01] <Lattyware> To my current situation.
[11:01] <Subhuman> wikijeff, yes if you compile it yourself, if your a new linux user i wouldnt suggest doing it.
[11:01] <mcphail> wikijeff: gnome 1.6 isn't the latest version :)
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys how do i change the theme of the panels is there a name for them??
[11:01] <Seveas> wikijeff, 1.16 you mean and you should wait a few weeks and then upgrade to Ubuntu edgy
[11:01] <thomas> Lattyware: this irc channel is for ubuntu being installed on computers. Xxubuntu is variant of ubuntu, and you should seek help from them.
[11:02] <wikijeff> Seveas: ok, thanks
[11:02] <Seveas> thomas, this channel supports ubuntu, kubuntu edubuntu and xubuntu...
[11:02] <thomas> Lattyware: nobody in here is running ubuntu on their xbox right now I can almost guaruntee it. It is not a good place to find help.
[11:02] <mcphail> wikijeff: Seveas: 2.16
[11:02] <Lattyware> Yeah, I was just checking to see if it was a really common problem that everyone knew about, quickly.
[11:02] <thomas> Seveas: apparently he's found a project to install xubuntu on his xbox.
[11:02] <Seveas> mcphail, ah... indeed 
[11:02] <thomas> Seveas: but the controller isn't working.
[11:02] <nzx> hey, how do i enable sounds in kopete ?
[11:02] <Xpherebeast> Seveas can you help me?
[11:02] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, no
[11:03] <Seveas> you didn't ask a questio
[11:03] <Seveas> n
[11:03] <Xpherebeast> i asked like 3 times
[11:03] <nzx> found it
[11:03] <Xpherebeast> but i will again
[11:03] <tomaczec> are you sure about what this channel is?
[11:03] <Amro> When installing, I get xserver-org resolution select menu. no matter what i select when i click continue (or go back) it flashes then returns to the same menu. Anyone know what's wrong?
[11:03] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, that was before I joined the conversation i think 
[11:03] <Xpherebeast> oh
[11:03] <thomas> Seveas: this channel is not supporting an xbox version of ubuntu is it?
[11:03] <Seveas> thomas, no
[11:03] <Jowi> Amro: what exactly are you running?
[11:03] <Seveas> xboxes are not supported at all by Ubuntu
[11:03] <thomas> Seveas: i asked him to seek help at that project's website or irc.
[11:03] <Seveas> (though it may work)
[11:04] <nich0s> Hey all, is there anyway for me to have a different background for my workspaces?
[11:04] <Amro> im installing ubuntu 6.06
[11:04] <Seveas> nich0s, with gnome: no
[11:04] <flasher> how can i tell if the opera deb build I've most recently installed is from static or from shared-qt?
[11:04] <Xpherebeast> My ubuntu will not boot the desktop normaly it shows funky lines and stuff, when i run the cd the same thing happens unless i select 1024x768, how do i get it to boot normal?
[11:04] <thomas> Lattyware: however, if you can get it installed, by all means come back and share with us.
[11:04] <magnet> flasher: ldd on the binary
[11:04] <Lysit> Seveas: Neither are toasters, but find one that can run an OS and someone will try and install ubuntu on it:p
[11:04] <Seveas> flasher, look at its dependencies
[11:04] <nich0s> seveas: What environment would you recommend?
[11:04] <flasher> magnet: what's ldd?
[11:04] <Seveas> Xpherebeast, select 1024x768 
[11:04] <Seveas> nich0s, gnome
[11:04] <flasher> magnet: i may have deleted the.deb already
[11:05] <Lysit> Lattyware try using SSH to install it, it says its supported f2orm the Xubuntu site
[11:05] <Jowi> Amro: installing 6.06 from which media? resolution is easiest changed with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:05] <thomas> nich0s: i'd pick gnome or xfce
[11:05] <Lattyware> Seveas: Some people have made a distro, designed to run on an Xbox, which is made out of Ubuntu, edited to run on an xbox. I know this channel is not for Xbox support, but if someone knew quickly, then it would have helped.
[11:05] <Xpherebeast> but how do i do that when i boot normally there is no selection for it?
[11:05] <flasher> Seveas: how do  i see the dependencies?
[11:05] <Jowi> !install
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: I said the opera binary
[11:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:05] <Lattyware> I was just asking in case.
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: not the deb
[11:05] <Lattyware> I allready have it installed onto my xbox.
[11:05] <flasher> magnet: ok. how do i ldd the binary?
[11:05] <Seveas> Lattyware, true, but with 900 people it's busy enough without xboxes  good luck though!
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: you find the opera binary (updatedb && locate opera) then you ldd it
[11:05] <Seveas> flasher, apt-cache depends opera
[11:05] <Amro> Jowi: im installing from the alternate CD. im not trying to set the res its part of xserver-org config
[11:05] <magnet> flasher: ldd opera
[11:05] <thomas> Lattyware: no harm in trying, but as far as your controller not working, chances of finding the answer in here are slim to none.
[11:06] <nich0s> sudo apt-get install xfce
[11:06] <nich0s> whoops
[11:06] <bary_> thomas can you help me please?
[11:06] <Lattyware> I've been using the Xbox version of damn small linux for ages, and I thought i'd try the xbox ubuntu, as I use it on my desktop.
[11:06] <Fuzz> uhm hi, i just got the fglrx drivers to work, but it screwed up my dualmonitor
[11:06] <Fuzz> could someone help me with that?
[11:06] <Jowi> Amro: if you have problems, chose the vesa driver and the native resolution of your monitor. that should be safe
[11:06] <thomas> Lattyware: Come back if you can fix your problem. Write a guide in the forums. Share with us.
[11:06] <reitzell> I've got to pull a bunch of (viso) files off a web server. what ap can I use to do this?
[11:06] <thomas> bary_: whats up?
[11:06] <Lattyware> Will do.
[11:06] <Jowi> Amro: the rest can be changed after you get rid of the screen flicker.
[11:07] <eyequeue> reitzell, man wget
[11:07] <flasher> magnet: updatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[11:07] <magnet> flasher: sudo it
[11:07] <Xpherebeast> severas how do i select 1024x768 when there is no selection for it?
[11:07] <eyequeue> flasher, sudo
[11:07] <Amro> Jowi: i'm only getting resolutions. It wont go past the step. Its not the whole screen flashing, it switches to the progress bar then back to the menu. I know im using safe resolutions
[11:07] <bary_> thomas: i have 2 hards on my pc one with linux and one with window... and i one get some music and music from my other hard the one with window
[11:07] <bary_> thomas: windows
[11:07] <reitzell> I want to grab the entire site
[11:07] <eyequeue> reitzell, man wget
[11:07] <reitzell> thousands of files
[11:07] <thomas> barry_: let me help you privately.
[11:08] <Jowi> Amro: what options do you get if you go back a step?
[11:08] <erUSUL> reitzell: wget -r --no-parent url
[11:08] <tomaczec> reitzell: for what reason?
[11:08] <Amro> jowi: nothing happens, same as if i hit continue
[11:08] <nich0s> kde is just ugly and slow, isn't it?
[11:08] <flasher> Seveas: i did the apt-cache depens opera command and here is the printout: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22947. please confirm that it is what i think it is, namely shared
[11:08] <Amro> seems more like a glitch. i restarted the install, just asking in case it happens again
[11:08] <cello_rasp> how i chek for updates/patches thru the commandline?
[11:08] <reitzell> I have to move a bunch of network topologie maps from an old server to a new sharepoint
[11:09] <thomas> nich0s: some may say that. Other people love KDE.
[11:09] <bie-cool> hi
[11:09] <bie-cool> lam knal
[11:09] <Jowi> Amro: what kind of hardware do you have? you could try to reboot and specify to disable the framebuffer to see if that helps.
[11:09] <thomas> nich0s: but KDE is a bit more bloated than Gnome or Xfce are.
[11:09] <tomaczec> reitzell: no reason
[11:09] <Seveas> flasher, correct
[11:09] <flasher> thanks
[11:09] <reitzell> yeah the old site is going away and the data needs to be on the new share
[11:09] <eyequeue> cello_rasp, sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:10] <sp0rk> nich0s, i'm gonna agree with you man.
[11:10] <Amro> Jowi: I've installed breezy on this machine before. Shouldn't it be capable?
[11:10] <jake1> all that chrooting for nothing yesterday
[11:10] <nich0s> thomas: I left windows for the bloat and the tendency to crash every other week
[11:10] <jake1> apparently Wine doesn't need chroot on dapper 64-bit
[11:10] <mopflite> does wine need chroot anywhere?
[11:10] <Jowi> Amro: reboot the install cd that is. and type in the option to disable framebuffer. Yes, if breezy worked this install should go fine as well. what hardware have you got (motherboard + graphiccard)?
[11:10] <thomas> nich0s: gnome is fairly minimal compared to windows or KDE.
[11:11] <thomas> mcbary: i'm trying to help you...
[11:11] <thomas> mcbary: doesn't help if you change your name.
[11:11] <Amro> its a laptop, presario 2700t. dunno the specifics but it has an ati mobility
[11:11] <nich0s> thomas: How would I go about aquiring and installing xfce
[11:11] <tomaczec> badger is released to the trees,,, he likes to groom there.
[11:11] <thomas> nich0s: install xfce-desktop
[11:11] <ACU> how do you start apache server ?
[11:11] <mopflite> nich0s: modern gnome combines functionality with a fairly minimalist approach in some ways - I switched to dapper/gnome recently after four years of using suse with blackbox, and am quite delighted with it
[11:11] <Adam> service start httpd
[11:12] <thomas> ACU: install apache, then /etc/init.d/apache start
[11:12] <Adam> sorry service httpd start
[11:12] <fildo> ACU:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:12] <mopflite> in contrast, I can't get on with kde these days - far too cluttered and bloated for my taste
[11:12] <Jowi> Amro: ok. that's strange. no errors just a blinking screen nomatter if you chose back or continue?
[11:12] <Adam> and GAH thats for redhat
[11:12] <nich0s> mopflite: Thanks for the insight :)
[11:12] <Adam> you can tell what I have resorted to using ;)
[11:12] <mcbary> thomas:i've register this nick so i can talk with you on private
[11:12] <sp0rk> nich0s, if you really don't want bloat, install ion
[11:12] <fildo> is it apache2 ?
[11:12] <nich0s> thomas: it says I don't have it
[11:12] <fildo> ok
[11:12] <nich0s> sp0rk: ion?
[11:12] <thomas> ACU: what fildo said, my apologies.
[11:13] <reitzell> looks like wget will work. Thanks!
[11:13] <Amro> Jowi: yes. as i said it mmight be a glitch. it seems to accept the settings then still asks for them again. which is why im reinstalling to see if it happens again, though i asked here in case it was a common problem
[11:13] <mopflite> wget rocks
[11:13] <Lysit> Awww, azureus won't keep running if you stop gnome:(
[11:13] <sp0rk> nich0s, its an extremely minimalistic window manager
[11:13] <Jowi> Amro: this is only a guess... wifes laptop had an acpi issue. try to disable that during before setup at the boot menu.
[11:13] <flasher> ok, i have used the shared_deb of opera build before. but i forgot if i used 6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb or 5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb. can anyone help?
[11:13] <eyequeue> Adam, what dir is this "service" command in?
[11:13] <sp0rk> nich0s, so minimalistic that windows don't exist - it uses frames.  It can be a VERY efficient work environment
[11:14] <tomaczec> fildo: how you define 'kde klutter'?
[11:14] <Jowi> Amro: think you should add "pci=noacpi" or something similar
[11:14] <sp0rk> nich0s, http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[11:14] <cslater> will folks be offended if I put up a link to some news about my site - instalinux.com ?
[11:14] <mcbary> thomas: you will help on channel or on privat?
[11:14] <thomas> mcbary i already said privately.
[11:14] <cslater> we just released a vmware appliance that lets you tweak settings and run a local version
[11:14] <thomas> i'm trying to help right now.
[11:14] <Adam> eyequeue its for redhat enterprise ignore me I was thinking of a diffrent distro
[11:14] <Amro> Jowi: add it where?
[11:14] <Jowi> Amro: at the boot prompt
[11:15] <mcbary> thomas: i dont get any message on privat
[11:15] <eyequeue> Adam, ah, i was trying to track it down here
[11:15] <Amro> er prompt? i get gfxboot
[11:15] <thomas> mcbary, then privately message me.
[11:16] <Jowi> Amro: you should have some menu options, graphically or text should not make a difference
[11:16] <thomas> mcbary: follow this link. It is the best help you will get.
[11:16] <thomas> !samba
[11:16] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:16] <Jowi> Amro: check at the bottom of the screen when the cd boots
[11:17] <Amro> yeah i remember there was an advanced option
[11:17] <Amro> but i cant do that now im reinstalling... if it fails again ill try
[11:17] <abo> is there a way in the open file dialog of gtk to show previews of pictures?
[11:18] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:18] <grimboy> Hey hey!
[11:18] <Lysit> As seen as azureus doesn't continue running when I stop Gnome display manager is there another bittorrent client that supports downloading torrents from RSS
[11:18] <Jowi> Amro: even if it does not work now and all you get is a login prompt after the installation finishes. remember "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:18] <Boudewijn36> ktorrent
[11:19] <Lysit> for gnome?
[11:19] <Lysit> or is it CLI as well?
[11:19] <nozorro> abo: some apps have this in their dialogs, gimp for instance
[11:19] <grimboy> Lysit, rtorrent with a little python script would do the job.
[11:19] <Lysit> Alas, I don't know python
[11:19] <grimboy> Lysit, (or lang of choice)
[11:20] <grimboy> shell scripting?
[11:20] <Amro> thanks Jowi. im used to that from installing vcards :) thanks for all your help
[11:20] <Lysit> no
[11:20] <abo> nozorro... I'm using firefox and need to upload a file the dialog is the OS default... I'm wondering if there is a way around having to browse to the location with nautillus to view
[11:20] <grimboy> Why do you need to be able to download torrents without running firefox.
[11:20] <grimboy> I mean gnome
[11:21] <mcbary> thomas: looks pretty easy but i dont have root access
[11:21] <grimboy> (Brain fart)
[11:21] <Lysit> no gnome=more ram, 70 megs worth infact
[11:21] <Jowi> no probs Amro, a few wierd laptop installs has made me soft ;) usually it comes down to acpi or framebuffer. i bet acpi in your case.
[11:21] <superjew9021> can someone help me i am using wine to run steam but when it gets half way through the initial update it gives me this message: ERROR unable to open Steam.exe for reading (copying)
[11:21] <nich0s> thomas: How do I get and install xfce?
[11:21] <cslater> going to go ahead and post this... hope no one gets mad
[11:21] <cslater> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Instalinux_now_offers_a_custom_Linux_installation_VMware_appliance
[11:22] <Boudewijn36> heh
[11:22] <nozorro> abo: firefox to upload?
[11:22] <lhds> hey there i need to split a folder containing 40 gega to 4.7 gega archive files how to do that? is there a software under linux?/gnome?
[11:22] <nich0s> Any one... where can I get xfce and how do I installing once I have it?
[11:22] <abo> nozorro, yes .. like to attach file (photo) to email
[11:22] <superjew9021> can anyone help me
[11:23] <cslater> lol nich0s
[11:23] <cslater> lhds - use the split command
[11:23] <Bluhd> I've got a problem with autoconf/automake
[11:23] <grimboy> nich0s, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:23] <Bluhd> whenever I run aclocal, I get this error:
[11:23] <cslater> tar it up into one big tarball and then use split on it
[11:23] <Bluhd> macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[11:23] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> how do i install dualmonitor on ubuntu?
[11:23] <nozorro> abo: with firefox. you sending a link? i'm confused
[11:23] <administrator> !xinecinema
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinecinema - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <PathagenX> xinerama
[11:24] <administrator> fuzzyNeedsHelp: xinerama
[11:24] <administrator> !xinerama
[11:24] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:24] <nozorro> abo: you mean thunderbird perhaps?
[11:24] <administrator> fuzzyNeedsHelp: there you go
[11:24] <administrator> look at that link
[11:24] <abo> no firefox, to webmail
[11:24] <nich0s> YAY, grimboy, you are the winner :)
[11:24] <abo> nozorro,  no firefox, to webmail (like gmail)
[11:24] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> thank you administrator
[11:25] <administrator> fuzzyNeedsHelp: you are most welcome
[11:25] <abo> nozorro,  no firefox, to webmail (like gmail)  ... you click on "browse" .. you get the dialog ...
[11:25] <grimboy> Woo! Do I get a cookie?
[11:25] <PathagenX> nich0s, do you mean that you want to email some links to someone?
[11:25] <administrator> PathagenX: thanks i have not been here in a while so i am a little rust
[11:25] <administrator> rusty*
[11:25] <nich0s> PathagenX: Umm... wrong person?
[11:25] <nozorro> abo: ah stupid me, never used webmail. :-) -- well use the file manager then for pict previews
[11:25] <nich0s> grimboy, The bot does.
[11:25] <nich0s> !bottreat
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bottreat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <PathagenX> administrator, could you change your name? It is a bit misleading
[11:26] <nich0s> grrr
[11:26] <OskarS> i'm trying to install Ubuntu (running livecd right now), but everytime I try, the installation stops at 22%. Can anybody help?
[11:26] <tomaczec> how do i make Ubuntu fly airplane... really not.
[11:26] <Bluhd> anyone here: I'm having a serious problem regarding development
[11:26] <grimboy> Heh...
[11:26] <Bluhd> I can't run aclocal without getting macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[11:26] <administrator> PathagenX: this is a registered nick
[11:26] <nich0s> !botsnack
[11:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:26] <Bluhd> er
[11:26] <Bluhd> "macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library"
[11:26] <grimboy> Woo.
[11:26] <mopflite> OskarS: that is a common problem - you might want to try the alternate cd
[11:26] <PathagenX> tomaczec, BSD would be better for the wardware in the plane but if you can get an Apache, they are all AMD and Ubuntu will work fine
[11:27] <Jowi> Bluhd: do you have libtool installed?
[11:27] <Bluhd> Jowi, yes
[11:27] <PathagenX> *hardware
[11:27] <OskarS> mopfilte: download from the homepage?
[11:27] <Bluhd> Jowi: latest version too
[11:27] <ACU> how to start phpMyadmin (or rather where to configure it so I can start it)
[11:27] <nich0s> grimboy: Woo, indeed.
[11:27] <grimboy> OskarS, Choose the one that says alternative rather than desktop.
[11:27] <mopflite> OskarS: the alternate cd uses the old textial installer, and seems to work in many instances where the graphical installer used by the livecd fails (as was the case with the machine I am running now, in fact)
[11:28] <Jowi> Bluhd: try running "sudo ldconfig" and see if you still get that error
[11:28] <OskarS> mopflite, grimboy: thanks!
[11:28] <grimboy> What he said
[11:28] <mopflite> OskarS: kind of, but you need to look for it specifically - what area are you in geographically?
[11:28] <OskarS> stockholm
[11:28] <OskarS> swedeb
[11:28] <mopflite> ok
[11:28] <mcbary> how can i log in as root??? i need access to modify a file
[11:28] <LinuxHelp> What is, a real gooood ftp client, that supports recursive directory searching?
[11:28] <administrator> mcbary: use sudo
[11:28] <Bluhd> Jowi: still getting the error
[11:28] <nich0s> mcbary You can use the sudo command to run an editor as root
[11:29] <grimboy> mcbary, I've got a comic, wait a sec.
[11:29] <administrator> mcbary: sudo gedit file
[11:29] <mopflite> OskarS: http://ftp.du.se/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ - the alternate cds are listed there
[11:29] <nozorro> mcbary: or gksu for graph. apps
[11:29] <tomaczec> nich0s: they dont know 'root'.
[11:29] <OskarS> mopflite: thank you
[11:29] <Jowi> Bluhd: "libtool --version" give you what? 1.5.22?
[11:29] <mopflite> select the correct one for your architecture of course
[11:29] <grimboy> mcbary, http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[11:29] <OskarS> well, obviously ;)
[11:29] <Bluhd> michael@Ubuntu:~$ libtool --version
[11:29] <Bluhd> ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.5.22 Debian 1.5.22-2 (1.1220.2.365 2005/12/18 22:14:06)
[11:29] <nich0s> tomaczec: ...?
[11:29] <grimboy> mcbary, That explains it all.
[11:30] <Jowi> Bluhd: what are you trying to compile?
[11:30] <Bluhd> Jowi: anything that uses automake/autoconf
[11:30] <Jowi> Bluhd: ouch
[11:30] <Bluhd> Jowi: one of my old projects that used to work fine will now give me that error
[11:30] <juan> im trying to run some software but im not sure what this means "To be able to access the programs without problems, you will have to edit the login file for your shell. If you use the C shell, this file is called .cshrc or .tcshrc, and it is located in your home directory." could some1 please explain what i should do?
[11:30] <tomaczec> nich0s: dont ask me. it's ubuntu
[11:30] <nich0s> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:30] <nich0s> tomaczec: YAY ubuntu
[11:30] <nich0s>  :P
[11:30] <FRET> hey al
[11:30] <pheonix> hey all
[11:30] <mcbary> sudo: gedit: command not found
[11:30] <Jowi> Bluhd: you got build-essential installed as well?
[11:31] <TooCooL> can someone please help me..i removed some kind of bar or whatever its called from my panel..it was the 1 which showed icons..example i open limwire it has an icon on the panel..but now i dont have that so when i close a program down it is just minimizing to the panel but i dont see the icon to close it
[11:31] <nich0s> mcbary: Use nano :)
[11:31] <Bluhd> Jowi: yup
[11:31] <godmaster> hello i have a problem with "usplash"
[11:31] <administrator> mcbary: you can also do : sudo nano file
[11:31] <lhds> split is not working
[11:31] <grimboy> juan, The file you want to edit is ~/.bashrc
[11:31] <OskarS> thanks for the help guys
[11:31] <administrator> godmaster: what kind of problem
[11:31] <grimboy> juan, (Probably)
[11:31] <nano-lover> I love NANO
[11:31] <Jowi> Bluhd: "whereis libtool" is giving you the correct paths?
[11:31] <TooCooL> can someone please gelp me its reckon my head
[11:31] <TooCooL> help*
[11:32] <Bluhd> libtool: /usr/bin/libtool /usr/bin/X11/libtool /usr/share/libtool /usr/share/man/man1/libtool.1.gz
[11:32] <grimboy> It's like emacs and vim except for not bloated crap!
[11:32] <Bluhd> jowi: just posted the results
[11:32] <godmaster> i dont know how to replace the default boot spalsh screen
[11:32] <nano-lover> grimboy: Cheers to that. And it's mighty quick too! :)
[11:32] <TooCooL> grimboy,  can u help pls
[11:32] <Jowi> Bluhd: looks fine.
[11:32] <administrator> godmaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomization
[11:32] <grimboy> TooCooL, Hmm... Right click then click add stuff
[11:32] <nano-lover> godmaster... that is the strangest ... take that back... one of the strangest nicks in exsistance.
[11:32] <TooCooL> ok
[11:32] <Jowi> Bluhd: maybe your program expects a specific version...?
[11:32] <mcbary> guys please any1 can help? i'm new to linux...just installed
[11:33] <TooCooL> im jus not sure what i need to add to panel
[11:33] <grimboy> TooCooL, Then find the icony thing
[11:33] <TooCooL> to show program icons
[11:33] <Bluhd> Jowi: no, it cfan't be that
[11:33] <sethk> grimboy, nano-lover it makes no sense to compare two programs with totally different goals.
[11:33] <administrator> godmaster: that link should be correct if my memory is correct
[11:33] <TooCooL> lol whats it called
[11:33] <Bluhd> Jowi:  Anjunta IDE will automatically generate stuff like configure and make.am
[11:33] <nozorro> TooCooL: Notification Area?
[11:33] <grimboy> sethk, Yeah I know, I'm just kidding.
[11:33] <Bluhd> Jowi: and it fails through the IDE too
[11:33] <nano-lover> mcbary, You can use the command 'sudo nano <filename>'
[11:33] <cybercyst> i have a question about spellchecking... i am running english and installed the aspell, ispell and myspell spanish modules, how do i get them to work in various programs? gtk, xchat, abiword, etc?
[11:33] <TooCooL> nozorro, vty so much mate that fixed it
[11:33] <TooCooL> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:33] <sethk> cybercyst, you don't.
[11:33] <nano-lover> sethk: But it's fun :P
[11:34] <godmaster> yhks administrator
[11:34] <Jowi> Bluhd: anjuta never been stable for me. can't comment on that one :-/
[11:34] <juan> thank grimboy
[11:34] <godmaster> where are y from ?
[11:34] <tomaczec> Anjuta sucks... use vim
[11:34] <grimboy> mcbary, You didn't read the comic, it explains the syntac
[11:34] <TooCooL> nozorro, i just didnt know what it was called lol
[11:34] <cybercyst> sethk, you can't use english and spanish spell checking at the same time?
[11:34] <grimboy> *syntax
[11:34] <nano-lover> There was a comic?!?
[11:34] <Bluhd> tomaczec: I like graphical editors, not text mode ;)
[11:34] <sethk> cybercyst, you can in the open office word processor, but I don't see how to do it with the others
[11:34] <nozorro> TooCooL: np
[11:34] <grimboy> nano-lover, http://xkcd.com/c149.html - sudo - the comic
[11:34] <TooCooL> :)
[11:35] <tomaczec> BlueEagle: you lack.
[11:35] <cybercyst> sethk, i couldn't get it going in oo either... i even followed all the directions that the wizard threw at me
[11:35] <gnomefreak> tomaczec: this is not the place for your opinion on apps.
[11:35] <rixxon> any ideas how to run mirc 6.2 on wine? "bad exe format"
[11:35] <nano-lover> grimboy, is that your LJ? may I steal the pic?
[11:35] <Jowi> Bluhd: i test anjuta every 6 months or so. random crashes and failed compiles has made me... ummm... uncertain about it.
[11:35] <grimboy> nano-lover, Not mine, but it's CC
[11:35] <sp0rk> rixxon, apt-get install xchat
[11:35] <Bluhd> Jowi: Ah. What would you recommend?
[11:35] <sethk> cybercyst, do spell check, go into the configuration (i'll look up what the menu says), and add a dictionary
[11:35] <nano-lover> grimboy grrr to them... grr I say!
[11:36] <Jowi> Bluhd: anyway, does it compile if you do it manually?
[11:36] <grimboy> nano-lover, No CC is good, you just have to say where you got it from.
[11:36] <rixxon> sp0rk: using irssi and wouldn't switch for anything thank you. just want to do some testing
[11:36] <Bluhd> Jowi: what do you mean manually? do you mean just run gcc with the file?
[11:36] <grimboy> nano-lover, Friendly licence
[11:36] <sp0rk> rixxon, ahhh ;)
[11:36] <sethk> cybercyst, when you do spell check off the tools menu, a dialog comes up.  click on options
[11:36] <nano-lover> grimboy Ok then... :)
[11:36] <Amro> bluhd: more likely make
[11:36] <Jowi> Bluhd: for example
[11:36] <Jowi> make
[11:37] <Amro> bluhd: chances are you have to sudo ./configure first, dunno what you're trying to compile though
[11:37] <afm\colo> why would you run configure with root permissions?
[11:37] <afm\colo> that's remarkably stupid
[11:37] <tomaczec> i agree to rsm... i dont care too much. off.
[11:38] <Amro> oops typed sudo make first then didnt remove sudo
[11:38] <cybercyst> sethk, ok and i added a spanish dictionary under there, and it is selected
[11:38] <Jowi> Bluhd: sorry for leaving you hanging in the dark. need to sleep atm. it's been a looooong week for me.
[11:38] <afm\colo> well, you're not supposed to run `make` in root's context, anyway ;)
[11:38] <sethk> cybercyst, if a word is in that dictionary, it will not show up as mispelled
[11:38] <afm\colo> the "install"-target justifies use of sudo
[11:38] <Bluhd> Jowi: the compile doesn't work any more because I'm missing some sort of file called ".debs/interface.pp" but that's probably something anjunta autogen'd
[11:38] <TooCooL> anyone update there gnome...if so did u have compiz etc all installed before the update.,..and did it effect it
[11:38] <Amro> afm: i dont care about the specifics. gimme a breal
[11:39] <Amro> break
[11:39] <grimboy> TooCooL, I installed compiz, but then it updated and everything broke.
[11:39] <TooCooL> grimboy, ohh ok that sux
[11:39] <TooCooL> lol
[11:39] <misieq> i have to cut out a piece of html from a website, starting with specific text and ending with specific text... what tool would be best to do that?
[11:39] <TooCooL> i will jus wait for edgy so
[11:39] <afm\colo> Amro: well, you're free to get fucked over at some point in the future
[11:39] <juan> ive added a line ( setenv PATH /usr/bin/:${PATH}". ) as a guide told me to, now when i launch the termincal i get ( bash: setenv: command not found ) as a 1st line
[11:39] <Jowi> Bluhd: sounds like it. does it help you to create a new/empty project and see if *that* works?
[11:39] <afm\colo> i don't enjoy educating the foolish, so "have it your way"
[11:39] <grimboy> afm\colo, Don't be an dick.
[11:39] <Bluhd> Jowi: I'll try it.
[11:39] <Amro> afm: leave me alone k, i made a mistake oooooo big huge fucking deal
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[11:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:40] <grimboy> Amro, That's what /ignore is for.
[11:40] <TooCooL> will edgy be better with compiz..as in more stable?
[11:40] <afm\colo> TooCooL: depends on upstream compiz development
[11:40] <TooCooL> hmm
[11:40] <nano-lover> grimboy: This site is funny.
[11:40] <afm\colo> but genereally speaking, it most probably will ;)
[11:40] <ompaul> Amro, chill the langage thanks
[11:40] <whazilla> high
[11:40] <juan> misieq from the html? surely any text editor will do.
[11:40] <whazilla> i kinda messes up my /etc/environment
[11:40] <Amro> sorry
[11:41] <root_> hey guys i just installed ubuntu but when gnome loads i cant see anything...its all just weird covers, im using a nvidia card
[11:41] <TooCooL> anyone got a nice skinned gui and has SS?
[11:41] <whazilla> so how do i restore ... i goot from rescue dvd
[11:41] <root_> is there anyway to force it to be vga mode or something?
[11:41] <grimboy> nano-lover, Yeah it's one of my favourite webcomics now.
[11:41] <Bluhd> Jowi: the initial autogen.sh failed
[11:41] <whazilla> but can't seem to mount my hda in write permission
[11:41] <juan> root_,  have u installed nvidia drivers
[11:41] <misieq> juan: console tool. to autmate the process. i'm smart enough to figure out how to use text editor, if i wanted to use one i woudn't be asking here, eh?
[11:41] <root_> juan: the cd installed it
[11:41] <Jowi> Bluhd: so I wouldn't trust anjuta for anything if i were you :P
[11:41] <sethk> Amro, did anyone mention that you made a mistake ?   :)
[11:42] <Amro> hm?
[11:42] <TooCooL> anyone know if theres a channel for ppl who are into skinning?
[11:42] <afm\colo> whazilla: mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever
[11:42] <whazilla> so i can't login using gnome or any other session
[11:42] <LinuxHelp> TooCooL, alive or dead?
[11:42] <mcbary> can any1 help me on privat? i really dont know what do i have to do
[11:42] <sethk> Amro, never mind
[11:42] <TooCooL> hahahaha
[11:42] <whazilla> when i choice xterm session
[11:42] <TooCooL> no seriously doh
[11:42] <whazilla> i get a broken bash
[11:42] <juan> !nvidia
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Root did livecd work for you or did you use alternate cd
[11:42] <sethk> mcbary, what to do about what?
[11:43] <root_> i used the alternative cd
[11:43] <TooCooL> LinuxHelp, u know any?
[11:43] <whazilla> now how do i mount my hda1 on ubuntu live rescue dvd with write permission ?
[11:43] <sethk> whazilla, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /some/mount/point
[11:43] <whazilla> thkx
[11:43] <root_> i cant start X so i dont know how i would check that site :/
[11:43] <LinuxHelp> TooCooL, no sorry
[11:43] <sethk> whazilla, assuming hda1 has an ext3 file system on it.
[11:43] <TooCooL> kk
[11:43] <whazilla> :D
[11:43] <root_> im in console now
[11:43] <sethk> whazilla, the mount point can be any empty directory
[11:43] <whazilla> i used -fd
[11:44] <whazilla> *fs
[11:44] <sethk> whazilla, ok, I guess ... :)
[11:44] <root_> anyway to start x with vga mode?
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> root_:   Grub Boot Options ide=nodma vga=normal nomce acpi=off acpi = no (Solves no mouse problem) pnpbios=off xdrvr=vesa xres=800x600 apm=off quiet
[11:44] <Jack_Sparrow> root_: to name a few
[11:44] <Jowi> bye all. time to hit the sack
[11:45] <Bluhd> Jowi: What do you recommend now? Any way to generate some arbitrary aclocal file?
[11:45] <root_> thanks
[11:45] <grimboy> Jowi, Bye.
[11:45] <Bluhd> Bye jowi
[11:46] <Jowi> Bluhd: i think your build environment are messed up. purge + reinstall build-essential is my bet (but i'm no expert in this). good luck.
[11:47] <apecat> hmm, is it just me or does the last.fm submitter in the latest ubuntu packaged version of amarok not work?
[11:47] <harleypig> is there a how to on how to compile 32 bit apps under 64 bit?
[11:47] <yohan> !nvidia
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:48] <sethk> harleypig, you just need to use a cross compiler
[11:48] <sethk> harleypig, you can build the compiler to run in the 64 bit environment and build 32 bit code
[11:48] <Gevaudan82> Does anyone know how to create non self signed certificates for dovecot? i've tried just about everything and the apt-get version of dovecot does not come with the openssl dovecot wrapper
[11:48] <afm\colo> -m32 would be the switch for gcc
[11:48] <harleypig> I'm just trying to get a 32 bit mplayer so I can play some wmv9 files
[11:48] <sethk> harleypig, the 32 compiler would run in the 64 bit environment, but you would have trouble telling it which libraries to link
[11:49] <OmniD> !diff > OmniD
[11:49] <sethk> harleypig, if all the libraries for 32 bit are available, you can use a command line switch with the compiler
[11:50] <harleypig> so, where I would do dpkg-buildpackage with a switch?
[11:51] <afm\colo> harleypig: mplayer (or rather ffmpeg) from svn can play WMV9DMO just fine
[11:51] <afm\colo> without any binary deps
[11:51] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> hmm well that didnt work lol
[11:51] <QMario> Also, where can I post my current programming projects?
[11:52] <harleypig> so, dl the ffmpeg library from svn and compile from there?
[11:52] <MeTa[AwAy] > by eall yoo 8
[11:52] <harleypig> where is the ffmpeg svn?
[11:52] <afm\colo> harleypig: check mplayerhq.hu
[11:52] <afm\colo> there are snapshots available as well
[11:52] <harleypig> thanks
[11:52] <Neo8750> is ti going to make it?
[11:52] <Neo8750> lets hope
[11:53] <harleypig> it's the first link on google for ffmpeg svn :] 
[11:53] <mbvo> is there some tutorial that would tell me how to do the basics in linux terminal(create directories, copy file, delete files, move files, etc.)?
[11:53] <WD_Raptor> hello
[11:53] <WD_Raptor> I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS x64 and I get an error Kernal Panic!
[11:54] <sethk> WD_Raptor, what triggers the error?
[11:54] <WD_Raptor> nothing
[11:54] <whazilla> sethk some error on mount ... unable to read superblock
[11:54] <KrakensDen> mbvo, there are lots :)
[11:54] <WD_Raptor> I select start or install and it says that
[11:54] <mbvo> where?
[11:54] <wthww_> hallo
[11:54] <WD_Raptor> live CD
[11:54] <sethk> whazilla, that sounds like it isn't the correct file system type.  you are using -t ext3?  are you sure it is ext3?
[11:54] <harleypig> hmmm ... I can obviously just do a ./configure && make && make test && sudo make install ... but is that the best way to do this?
[11:55] <KrakensDen> mbvo, http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ <- looks good
[11:55] <afm\colo> harleypig: checkinstall is your friend
[11:55] <KrakensDen> mbvo, if you run into specific problems, google is your friend
[11:55] <yohan> !mplayer
[11:55] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[11:55] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:55] <whazilla> sethk it's a loopback
[11:55] <whazilla> i thought formatted ext3
[11:55] <WD_Raptor> what isi wrong wih my Distro
[11:55] <harleypig> afm\colo: I see it in apt-cache search, what is it?
[11:55] <bluefox83> i need a quick command to make a random sound play on my freind's computer...
[11:56] <OmniD> libtools problems yadda yadda
[11:56] <whazilla> but i installed as loopback
[11:56] <OmniD> hehe loopback
[11:56] <yohan> !codec
[11:56] <CromagDK> whazilla: can be ur cpu or mb not supported... checked for HW support of ur HW ?
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <afm\colo> harleypig: can create debian, slackware and rpm packages from make-targets installing stuff
[11:56] <CromagDK> !codecs
[11:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:56] <yohan> !codecs
[11:56] <CromagDK> :P
[11:56] <WD_Raptor> hola!
[11:56] <whazilla> the system runs from the loopback so why wouldn't it be supported ?
[11:56] <CromagDK> oh
[11:57] <harleypig> afm\colo: Ok ... got it installed and reading manpage ...
[11:57] <xopher> how can I compile a non-debian source code with pbuilder?
[11:57] <CromagDK> read it as laptop hah
[11:57] <WD_Raptor> help!
[11:57] <whazilla> i'm just wondering howto mount it so i can restore th error i created
[11:57] <sethk> whazilla, it's not unsupported, that's irrelevant
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> WD_Raptor: Did you have the cd do it's self test for errors
[11:58] <whazilla> k borg
[11:58] <sethk> whazilla, don't go off on a tangent.  Did you answer my question about ext3?
[11:58] <bluefox83> how do i test an alsa installation?
[11:58] <sethk> whazilla, a loopback mount is used with a file, not a partition
[11:58] <whazilla> it was formatted a loopback on ext3
[11:58] <WD_Raptor> Helo? I am getting a kernal panic. pLEASE hELP
[11:58] <sethk> whazilla, wait.  it is either hda1, or a loopback.  not both.
[11:58] <whazilla> it ask me on install
[11:58] <whazilla> all i said was
[11:58] <bluefox83> i just need a quick command like aplay  > /dev/dsp or something
[11:58] <whazilla> yes install on loopback
[11:58] <nozorro> WD_Raptor: try alternate CD to install
[11:59] <nozorro> !alternate
[11:59] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[11:59] <whazilla> so my system raw then ?
[11:59] <WD_Raptor> not installing
[11:59] <WD_Raptor> live
[11:59] <Storkme> where are the default icons of clearlooks located??
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> WD_Raptor: Did you have the cd do it's self test for errors
[11:59] <whazilla> is ther a way to find out ?
[11:59] <sethk> whazilla, so it isn't hda1?  why did you say it is hda1?
[11:59] <bamzin> hi there. i'm having some trouble when trying to run any flash movie/animation/youtube video on my firefox. when a page has a flash the browser suddenly close without noticing.. im using dapper drake, anyone can help me?
[11:59] <whazilla> i only got one hdd i figured it Wanderers it
[11:59] <whazilla> and i can mount it read only
[11:59] <sethk> whazilla, if it is a loopback, it isn't an hd at all
[11:59] <harleypig> afm\colo: Ok ... make: *** No rule to make target `config.mak'.
[11:59] <sethk> whazilla, you have to figure out whether you have a disk or not
[12:00] <harleypig> Looks like a neat package
[12:00] <harleypig> if I can make it work.
[12:00] <whazilla> k forget the loop ... how do i figur the sys tipe fs ?
[12:00] <sethk> harleypig, did you do ./configure?
[12:00] <whazilla> harleyg ?
[12:00] <harleypig> oh ... I have to run configure first ...
[12:00] <lostinc> can anyone tell me what dock this is in this screenshot and maybe where to get it? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=41507&file1=41507-1.jpg&file2=41507-2.jpg&file3=41507-3.jpg&name=Cold+Plastic