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weas3lhey DaSkreech, think you may be able to point me in the direction of a path to get my wireless working on this laptop in kubuntu?12:10
DaSkreech!wireless12:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:10
misieqJohnFlux: got any idea?12:10
weas3lhey, thanks.12:11
kegiedamn firefox.. I have to resize the window to get it to repaint itself.. very annoying12:11
weas3lfor future reference, i can ask the bot about anything by typing !question?12:12
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grotheskHi! Is k3b 0.12.17 available in some repo12:12
Hawkwindweas3l: Pretty much.  You can also do !ubotu and it will give you a webpage where you can search the bot database12:13
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DaSkreechweas3l: Most stuff but please remember !fish12:13
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misieqgrothesk: http://k3b.plainblack.com/download12:14
lupine_85!fish queens12:14
ubotufish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.0-1 (dapper), package size 355 kB, installed size 1596 kB12:14
weas3l...interactive shell eh?12:14
lupine_85...12:14
DaSkreech!fishing12:14
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops12:14
weas3lnice, thanks guys.12:14
lupine_85friendly?12:14
JFreakCapowhat is ineractive shell ?12:14
lupine_85a friendly shell?12:14
lupine_85what is it, a cackle?12:14
grotheskmisieq: thx!12:15
misieqgrothesk: also:12:16
grotheskmisieq: So this is the official homepage with no dapper packages.12:16
misieq!k3b12:16
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto12:16
grotheskmisieq: I know hot to use k3b.12:16
lupine_85k3b++12:17
grotheskI'm just hunting for the latest version.12:17
lupine_85apt-cache showpkg k3b suggests 0.12.14-0ubuntu712:17
misieqgrothesk: if you read closely, you might see that this site also says where the new packages are...12:17
grotheskmisieq: In dapper-backports.12:18
grotheskBut there is no k3b 0.12.17 in my dapper-backports...12:18
lupine_85presumably it's not available as a dapper package, then12:18
lupine_85it might be in edgy, or you could build your own12:18
Hawkwind!info k3b edgy12:18
lupine_85or request it, of course :)12:19
ubotuk3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB12:19
misieqgrothesk: then it means 1. it hasn't been backported yet 2. it hasn't been made a .deb archive yet12:19
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lupine_85uboto is smart!12:19
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misieqahh... you got your answer then :)12:19
grotheskNot really ;-)12:19
grotheskSo I'll build it myself.12:20
lupine_85grothesk: it'll be out in edgy - end of october ;)12:20
lupine_85...or DIY of course12:20
lupine_85hmm12:20
lupine_85msg ubotu acts as a request to edit... which gets forwarded to the ops?12:20
lupine_85Ulp12:20
misieqgrothesk: you can download a source and create a .deb archive so it won't spoil your apt12:20
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lupine_85s/it/is12:20
grotheskmisieq: That's what I'm going to do now.12:21
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lupine_85!rt250012:21
uboturt2500: configuration tool for wireless RT2500 network cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0+cvs20051217-1 (dapper), package size 99 kB, installed size 368 kB12:21
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misieqgrothesk: good.  .debs are good ;)12:21
lupine_85does anyone know if that's rutilt or RaConfig ?12:22
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grotheskCU!12:22
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misieqgotta go, bye!12:22
Flappineaglecan someone give me the short version of how to connect this to undernet , this is my first try with Konversation in ubuntu12:22
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kuzmasterhello all12:26
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kuzmasterhow can i give myself full root privlidges?12:26
kuzmasterif i can spell it right12:26
RawSewage_you dont want to12:26
Hawkwindkuzmaster: sudo passwd  or sudo passwd root12:27
HawkwindRawSewage_: Why not ?12:27
RawSewage_try to avoid that urge12:27
kuzmasterno, but without having to do that12:27
RawSewage_idk12:27
HawkwindSome people prefer to have a traditional root account, including myself12:27
lupine_85RawSewage_: it's handy for when sudo breaks12:27
RawSewage_you have to learn not to want to do that12:27
lupine_85lol12:27
lupine_85!best12:27
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.12:27
HawkwindRawSewage_: Why ?12:27
lupine_85:p12:27
kuzmastercos, like, i cant make changes to the network settings12:27
RawSewage_It's the Ubuntu way12:28
lupine_85so?12:28
HawkwindRawSewage_: That doesn't mean you can't have a traditional root account12:28
lupine_85kuzmaster: in <random GUI program>?12:28
kuzmasterwhen i click on 'admin mode' it just kinda clears everything, and theres nothing there12:28
kuzmasterlupine_85, for all12:28
Hawkwindkuzmaster: If you do sudo passwd or sudo passwd root  set a password then you can12:28
lupine_85kuzmaster: run all of kcontrol as root12:28
lupine_85e.g. kdesu kcontrol12:28
lupine_85(I've had that problem myself a time or two)12:28
kuzmasterlike Hawkwind said, how can i have a tradititonal root account12:29
kuzmasterthats what it want12:29
Hawkwindkuzmaster: I told you twice12:29
lupine_85sudo passwd will let you set a password12:29
lupine_85then you just log in as normal12:29
kuzmasterok12:29
lupine_85probably best to only use it in console though ;)12:29
HawkwindAfter you set it, su -  <hit enter>  enter the password <hit enter>12:29
weas3lhey, stupid question, but after i extract the tarball of firefox into the directory i want it, how do i run it?12:29
lupine_85(running kde as root is... interesting...)12:29
Hawkwindweas3l: Depends12:30
lupine_85weas3l: the 2.0 beta?12:30
DaSkreechweas3l: Why don't you just apt-get firefox?12:30
Hawkwindweas3l: Read the README or INSTALL file12:30
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kuzmaster!pastebin12:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:30
weas3lHawkwind, no, the 1.5.0.6 version12:30
DaSkreechapt-get install firefox12:30
Hawkwindweas3l: Why do you need 1.5.0.6 ??12:30
Hawkwindweas3l: sudo apt-get install firefox will get you the version in the repos which is 1.5.0.512:31
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weas3lso what is apt-get?12:31
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lupine_85aren't there (more) security vulnerabilities in .0.5?12:31
lupine_85or is the .0.4 ?12:31
Hawkwind!apt-get12:31
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:31
weas3li just went to the website for firefox and downloaded the most current version...12:31
lupine_85weas3l: s/apt-get/adept if you prefer12:31
Hawkwindlupine_85: There's vulnerabilities in every version of firefox12:32
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AZ_ASwhat's the keyboard shortcut for switching between desktops?12:32
lupine_85Hawkwind: I know, but are there actively-exploited vulns in .0.5?12:32
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Hawkwindlupine_85: Not that I've heard of12:32
lupine_85cool12:32
lupine_85must've been .0.4 then12:32
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kuzmasteram i supposed to get this after running kdesu kcontrol?12:33
kuzmasterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2295712:33
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NthDegreesomehow i doubt that12:34
weas3lwhat does 'firefox has no installation candidate' mean?12:34
lupine_85kuzmaster: it shouldn't affect kcontrol from running12:34
Hawkwindkuzmaster: Yes, it's quite normal.  Read this post on my forums to fix it:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.012:34
Hawkwindweas3l: Means you don't have your sources setup correctly12:34
kuzmasterk, it seems to be running normally12:34
NthDegreeweas31, put apt-get install mozilla-firefox12:34
weas3lsame error.12:35
weas3lHawkwind, how can i determine that?12:35
kuzmasterweas3l, are you sure you have the repos for firefox?12:35
kuzmaster!easysource12:35
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:35
kuzmasteri love that12:35
lupine_85it's just general fluff from the install12:35
lupine_85it's amazing how much junk many GUI programs put out when you run them under CLI12:35
lupine_85well, I suppose they're useful for debugging and stuff ;)12:35
h3sp4wnthe firefox binary from mozilla.org runs alot faster (than the repository one)12:35
HawkwindThe bad device errors come from having 'wacom' stuff in your xorg.conf12:36
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Ummmm how do you come up with said information ?12:36
HawkwindI've run them both and they are no different IMO12:36
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h3sp4wnThe mozilla binary runs exponentially faster on my system12:37
lupine_85howon earth did a device that almost nobody uses end up in everyone's xorg.conf, anyway?12:37
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kuzmasterHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLP12:37
kuzmasterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2295812:37
lupine_85h3sp4wn: to what power?12:37
weas3lkuzmaster, i'm not sure... as a total linux noob i followed my windows instinct, went to getfirefox.com and downloaded the tarball from there... after confiring with the install faq, i ran the suggested command in my console, it extracted everything fine.12:37
Hawkwindlupine_85: No idea12:37
weas3lbut thats all it left me.12:37
h3sp4wnlupine_85: e12:37
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lupine_85or do you mean that the longer you run it, the faster it gets...?12:37
Hawkwindkuzmaster: Do you have adept open ?12:37
kuzmasterno12:37
Hawkwindkuzmaster: Try running it again12:38
Hawkwindkuzmaster: It looks like you have another instance of apt-get running or adept is open12:38
kuzmasternow i get  this12:38
kuzmasterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2295812:38
kuzmasteroops12:38
kuzmasterno12:38
kuzmastersudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep  9 18:24:45 200612:38
kuzmasterthat12:38
h3sp4wnlupine_85: i don't mean that (scrolling is alot slower with the one from the repos but maybe it looks slightly better) - minefield from the daily builds is definately faster12:38
Hawkwindkuzmaster: sudo apt-get update12:38
kuzmastersame12:39
kuzmasterit hates me12:39
Hawkwindweas3l: You really need to learn the distros package manager.12:39
weas3levidently.12:39
Hawkwindweas3l: That will solve a lot of problems for you as you can easily install stuff with sudo apt-get install.  Hard to find stuff that isn't pre-packaged for the distro already12:40
lupine_85!lazarus12:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lazarus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:40
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lupine_85:D12:40
weas3li... kinda see...12:40
h3sp4wnweas3l: extract the tarball to /opt or something and then launch it with /opt/firefox/firefox12:40
lupine_85how does one request /submit a package to be included, anyway?12:41
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox and stop compiling stuff :P12:41
Hawkwindlupine_85: Ask in #Ubuntu-MOTU for one thing12:41
Hawkwindlupine_85: Or build it yourself and submit it12:41
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HawkwindShhhhhhhhhh, it's unclemike12:41
Hawkwind:P12:41
lupine_85I have packages :)12:42
h3sp4wnHawkwind: Why ? I use binarys just ones built by the developers of firefox (and without junk like pango)12:42
Hawkwindlupine_85: deb packages of lazarus ?12:42
lupine_85yep12:42
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: It's just not recommended.  Especially for a brand new user.  You can mess up the package manager if you aren't careful12:42
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: *You* know what you're doing so you won't, but the new user risks the chances12:42
h3sp4wnHawkwind: Impossible if you put stuff in /opt12:43
kuzmasterhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i hate this and this hates me12:43
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Again, new users don't know that12:43
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Hawkwindlupine_85: Email me the packages and I'll put them in my repo as well if you want12:44
unclemikeHawkwind: how do i add your E17 repo to kubuntu12:44
Hawkwindunclemike: http://SeerOfSouls.com/ubuntu.html12:44
lupine_85Hawkwind: it is compiled for gtk...12:44
Hawkwindunclemike: Info is on the page just like the Mandriva stuff :P12:44
lupine_85do you use lazarus at all?12:44
Hawkwindlupine_85: I've never used it, no12:44
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lupine_85object pascal++ :D12:44
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Have you had a chance to build E17 from the sources for the 64Bit system yet ?12:44
A|i3NHey is there any way to play MSN Zone games with Konqueror or FireFox???!?!12:45
HawkwindA|i3N: Doubtful as they require flash 8 or better12:45
HawkwindA|i3N: Linux won't have flash 9 until after the first of the year12:45
lupine_85meh. nobody talking to me in ubuntu-motu. can you /msg me your email Hawkwind?12:45
kuzmasterwhy dose this hate me?12:45
A|i3Nwhat about flash 8? hehe12:45
h3sp4wnHawkwind: Haven't had chance (I will get it done monday or tuesday next week)12:45
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Hawkwindlupine_85: hawkwind AT gmail DOT com12:45
A|i3Nso there's not like, some crack or some kinda modification i can use to play it ..12:46
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: Kewl.  Let me know how it goes12:46
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HawkwindA|i3N: Nope12:46
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lupine_85is 71MB OK? (3 .deb files)12:46
A|i3Nah well guess i'll try the ie6 i have installed lol12:46
h3sp4wnHawkwind: The 64 bit system is not where I am currently so it cannot be done before then12:46
Hawkwindlupine_85: Or you can tar them up and DCC them to me if you want12:46
A|i3Nalthough i doubt that'll work either12:46
kuzmasterhey, is there any disadventages of using the 64-bit version?12:46
lupine_85HAwkwind: probably best if I stick them on my server12:46
lupine_85(832kbps upload)12:46
Hawkwindlupine_85: Ah ok12:46
lupine_851 second...12:47
Hawkwindlupine_85: Nice!12:47
lupine_8540pcm!12:47
Hawkwindlupine_85: I have 8Mb down but RR only gives us 512K up :(12:47
lupine_85I'm in the UK12:47
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lupine_85mind you, an unmetered 8128/832kbps connection is ~8012:47
Hawkwindkuzmaster: Most 64bit OS's still have some issues but are getting better.  The real advantage to 64bit is if you have more than 4GB of RAM12:47
kuzmasterHawkwind, i know that, but i only have 1gb of ram12:48
Hawkwindkuzmaster: Personally I'd stick with the 32bit version then12:48
kuzmasterHawkwind, what about wine, i herd something about that before, being 32-bit or somtihng?12:48
Hawkwindkuzmaster: Wine is an app that allows you to run Windows app in12:49
kuzmasterHawkwind, well, i was gonna use the 64-bit version, but i couldnt find the cd's12:49
Hawkwinds/in/in linux12:49
kuzmasterHawkwind, i know that, but i herd somone else stating out somthing like it being 32-bit or somtihng, i dont know12:49
lupine_85urgh, slow wireless...12:50
NthDegree64bit is more reliable if the program is stable12:50
Hawkwindkuzmaster: I know nothing about Wine really since I don't use Windows at all.  It very well might be available for 32bit only12:50
h3sp4wnYou can use 64 bit with a 32 bit chroot and its ok12:50
lupine_85250KB/sec data transfer over the LAN12:50
Hawkwindkuzmaster: Though you can use 32bit apps within a 64bit install12:50
NthDegreeuh WINE can run on 64 bit without a chroot12:50
kuzmasteri know, but.......... yeah12:50
lupine_85700KB/sec download from the internet...12:50
NthDegreepeople are so ignorant to IA32-libs.............12:50
h3sp4wnThere is a wrapper for running 32bit firefox plugins on 65 bit12:50
HawkwindNthDegree: Thanks.  I have no clue about wine.  And prefer not to12:51
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NthDegreeyou can get a wine package but it is 32 bit, so you need to force dpkg to install it then fix up and lib inconsistencies with 32 bit versions being put in lib3212:52
NthDegree-and12:52
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h3sp4wnCan you not just compile wine for 64 bit and use 64 bit windows dll's etc if necessary ?12:53
lupine_85at last! Hawkwind: http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/lazarus12:53
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h3sp4wn(windows xp 64 runs 32 / 64 bit at the same time)12:54
A|i3Nhey just so you know i just got an msn zone game with work with wine running ie6 .. wasn't as great as on windows but hey it worked hehe....12:54
lupine_85they might need a bit of fixing up, dependency-wise12:54
lupine_85but they work perfectly12:54
lupine_85(you need all three installed to get a working build environment)12:54
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Hawkwindlupine_85: Grabbing them now.  Also, are they signed at all with a key ?12:55
lupine_85found you :) tcp        0  27512 lupine.me.uk:www        cpe-24-167-43-76.:46776 ESTABLISHED12:55
lupine_85erm, no key12:55
Hawkwindlupine_85: Ok kewl12:55
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lupine_85(I have a gpg key, but never seem to use it)12:55
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weas3lthats odd... when i go to run /home/user/firefox/firefox ... it just doesnt.12:56
matgateshello.12:56
matgatesI have a question about gtk apps...12:56
bender_hmm12:57
lupine_85!ask12:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:57
matgatesI have an ubuntu machine on which I installed kubuntu-desktop, and since then my gtk apps don't use the same look for the widgets (even under gnome desktop).  How come?12:57
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pimurihi folks. can anybody help me? I can't hear any sound in vlc. I tried alsa, oss and standard. e.g. in xmms the sound works fine.01:01
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bender_kuHmm....well this is a big contrast between XP (Kubuntu)01:02
cccbender_ku: yes01:04
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bender_kuBeen trying to install FireFox but finding some of the dependcies is a pita...what's a good place to find them (Google's not helping much...grrr...)01:05
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cccbender_ku: how are you trying to install it?01:05
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lupine_85*snore(01:06
lupine_85night hawkwind01:06
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plugshow can i access another computer on my network?01:06
bender_kuI went to the FireFox site and downloading the tar.gz, managed to decompress it but whenever I try and run it I get a (secs changing the exact error)01:06
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cccbender_ku: open konsole (terminal) and type: sudo apt-get install firefox01:06
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cccbender_ku: done01:06
bender_kuThat easy...?01:07
bender_kukk gonna try01:07
cccyes01:07
cccthat command downloads and installs it for you01:07
jetpeachdoes anybody here run edgy?  i'm wondering why firefox bon echo beta 2 isn't yet installing on my machine, maybe my repos are messed up?01:07
bender_kuwow01:07
cccthere are tens of thousands of programs available01:07
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Hawkwindjetpeach: Probably because edgy comes with 2.0b101:08
jetpeachk01:08
jetpeachjust checking01:08
cccbender_ku: you can type: apt-cache search <name>    to search for stuff01:08
bender_kuThat was...really easy...01:08
bender_kuI take it all apps aren't that easy to install though?01:08
jetpeachhawkwind: it's just that beta2 has been out for a while01:08
bender_kuAh kk01:09
cccbender_ku: or, if you prefer a GUI, use Adept (which is in the System menu)01:09
jetpeachseems like it should've been in by now01:09
bender_kuWell saw adept a few times but wanted to do it the longg way the first time01:09
bender_kuFigure if gonna do it want to do it right the first time before using the GUI01:09
cccgood thinking. and the command line way is usually faster too :)01:09
bender_kuYah, seems easy enough lol01:10
jetpeachtoo bad adept is so buggy... none of the graphical package managers work as well as aptitude either01:10
bender_kuAh01:10
bender_kuSo will it always work so well finding dependencies using that sudo apt-get command?01:10
jetpeachthough aptitude took me a little bit to figure out well (it remembers which packages were installed because they were dependencies, versus those you actually chose to install so when you remove a program, it will remove unneeded dependencies if you want)01:11
Hawkwindjetpeach: I'm running Knot2 in vmware and have firefox 2.0b1 installed and it was there when I installed it originally01:11
cccbender_ku: well yeah basically. the packages you find there automatically installed dependencies01:11
ccc*install01:11
bender_kua h kk01:11
bender_kuah*01:11
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jetpeachhawkwind: cool, yeah i was searching through launchpad trying to figure out when/if beta2 was in, but sounds like they just haven't got it in there.  beta1 is awful for me, pretty much unusable because it crashes sooo much01:12
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Hawkwindlupine_85: I have all the files now.  I'll put them in my repo a bit later this evening01:12
elknof1hey hi everybody01:12
h3sp4wnjetpeach: I think aptitude is the best option01:12
jetpeachyep aptitude rocks01:12
elknof1just a question...   cipherfunk repo is working??01:12
jetpeachh3sp4wn: but i do wish there was a nice graphical one that was as capable.01:13
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h3sp4wnjetpeach: What is wrong with the ncurses aptitude ?01:13
elknof1!paste01:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:13
h3sp4wnjetpeach: You can even play minesweeper if things are really messed up (what other package manager can you do that with)01:14
jetpeachh3sp4wn: what is ncurses?01:14
h3sp4wnjetpeach: if you run sudo aptitude - its the text based gui you get01:14
jetpeachh3sp4wn: if it's just what i know as aptitude, i'm fine with it, but for most people i think they would really like something prettier.  and sometiems i would to.  but i just want whatever that something is to be just as capable01:14
bender_kuAnother question...what's the default path that programs usually get installed too...?01:14
NthDegreencurses is what is used for make menuconfig as an example01:14
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h3sp4wnI would always prefer faster or works better over pretty (when it comes to computer programs anyway)01:15
elknof1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22960 if someone can help me, i've already added the keys, but it throws me that... i need to install w32codecs01:15
cccbender_ku: usually /usr/bin01:15
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bender_kuah kk thx (thought it was somewhere around there lol)01:16
jetpeachi see, ncurses is ok, i can handle it but i love the qt interface and would really like to see a good package manager for it, or major major improvements to adapt.  i don't always remember all the keystrokes in aptitude, and hitting ctnl-t and going through the menus can be tedious....01:16
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jetpeachh3sp4wn: i don't think qt interfaces need to slow anything down, or at least not noticably.  but yes, generally my sentiments are the same.  i just wish all the time people spent developing gnome apps would be spent on kde ones.  i think gtk+ is sooo ugly01:18
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baryi need a good html editor ..any1?01:22
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Mortice!quanta01:23
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB01:23
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baryi need a player and some codecs to see a movie? can you recomand me something?01:25
Morticebary: what kind of movie?01:25
barymortice: a avi01:25
Morticebary: heh. ok. you probably need the w32codecs.01:26
Mortice!w32codecs01:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
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_bender_That's so odd...when adding a file to the...menu (start menu or whatever it's called in KDE) didn't have to give the direct path to the program only the usr/bin folder01:34
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karangaIs there anyway to automatically add all synaptic items with the ubuntu icon?01:41
gnomefreakkaranga: nope not that i have ever seen01:42
karangaOK, thanks anyway :o)01:43
sethkaranga, if you really want to (I don't recommend)01:43
sethclick the icon column to sort by ubuntu icon01:43
seththen click the first one01:43
sethscroll down to the end01:43
LeeJunFanTime to try edgy out in a vm - I want to see how kde4 is doing :)01:43
sethhold Shift key01:43
sethclick the last one01:43
seththen mark all for installation01:43
seththat's a couple thousand though karanga... probably more stuff than you want :P01:43
h3sp4wnLeeJunFan: I don't think there are any visible changes (its just kde 3.5.4 compiled with qt4 if I am reading it right)01:44
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karangaseth: thanks for that, think I will heed your warning :O)01:44
LeeJunFanh3sp4wn: I've been wondering - I saw some screenies a while back that made it look pretty nice, but any recent screens I've seen looked the same as 3.5.401:44
h3sp4wnLeeJunFan: I think the other screenies were just artist concept designs01:45
LeeJunFanh3sp4wn: well, I hope they juice it up some.01:45
barycan nay1 help me on privat to install some codecs?01:46
Hawkwindbary: Just ask your question here and someone will help you01:47
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baryi wanna see movies01:47
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Hawkwind!codecs01:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:47
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Hawkwindbary: Read those pages.  It will help you get things installed to view movies of most any kind01:48
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baryHawkwind: its my first day on linux so i think it will be a little bit hard01:49
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Tom-_-shit, what can u do when ur underage and run out of cigarettes....?01:49
gnomefreakbary: not really iirc they give you the commands/packages to look for01:49
LeeJunFanTom-_-: stop.01:49
LeeJunFanquit01:49
Tom-_-i cant01:49
Tom-_-they taste so goood01:49
gnomefreakTom-_-: please join #kubuntu-offtopic and ask them01:50
Hawkwindbary: You think it's too hard to read and copy/paste the commands that it tells you ?01:50
HawkwindTom-_-: Please watch the language01:50
Tom-_-i cant01:50
junkphreakhey hawkwind :}01:50
Tom-_-i spoke english01:50
HawkwindTom-_-: You can't what ?01:50
Hawkwindjunkphreak: Hey there01:51
Hawkwind!language01:51
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:51
Tom-_-how can i watch what language i speak?01:51
gnomefreak!language01:51
LeeJunFanbary: everything worth doing takes effort. :)01:51
gnomefreakeh01:51
HawkwindTom-_-: No need for the cussing01:51
Tom-_-i dont get it01:51
Tom-_-oh01:51
gnomefreakTom-_-: dont push your luck01:51
Tom-_-why didnt u say so01:51
HawkwindTom-_-: I did01:51
karangaAssuming I have installed a second hdd formatted it and mounted it. Can I move (any) (some) or (none) of the original folders setup in the installation?01:51
junkphreakhe did01:51
HawkwindHence the....watch your language01:51
Tom-_-no u said watch my language01:51
baryguys your right and i really like to learn tnx for your help01:51
Tom-_-you never said not to cuss01:51
Tom-_-huge diffrence01:51
HawkwindTom-_-: You know what that means, please don't argue or press your luck01:52
sethkaranga: you may edit /etc/fstab and move the mountpoints for things like /boot or /etc01:52
Tom-_-no i dont01:52
junkphreakits pretty normal not to cus in any public irc server :}01:52
gnomefreakTom-_-: join #kubuntu-offtopic this has gone way off topic01:52
sethhawkwind, english is not his first language, give him a break, he didn't understand the idiom "watch your language"01:52
LeeJunFanOkay, point taken - lets not fill up my HD with logfiles about not cussing :p01:52
karangaseth: thanks again01:52
sethcheers karanga01:52
gnomefreakHawkwind: you have gmail?01:53
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Yeppers01:53
gnomefreakHawkwind: try to get into it please01:53
Tom-_-see seth uunderstand01:53
Hawkwindgnomefreak: I was just using it about 2 minutes ago01:53
gnomefreakack01:53
gnomefreakty01:53
HawkwindNo problem01:53
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sethkaranga: you may find this useful... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoveMountpointHowto01:54
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karangaseth: thanks - how does Ubuntu afford to send out Ubuntu CD for free by the way? It must cost them a fortune.01:56
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sethkaranga, Mark Shuttleworth foots the bill-- the CDs aren't actually that expensive, it's the shipping :)01:58
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h3sp4wnThe amount of the cost of the cd's is nothing compared to the amount of work done by debian (which he effectively gets for free)01:58
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karangaWell I'm more than taken with Ubuntu and especially the support which you get left right and centre. So glad I formatted XP for this.01:58
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karangaStill it's a very nice touch - M$ could take a leaf out of the installation process, way ahead of M$ in my opinion02:00
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balonioI have a noob question regarding gcc 4.002:01
pierrethIs it possible to switch the Cancel and OK button in KDE?02:01
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nagyvI would like to repartition an usb connected external hdd, but qtparted always says: "Critical error during ped_disk_new". What does it mean?02:01
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balonioI'm trying to compile a basic :hello world program, and Im getting errors02:02
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shadowr3dThats great balonio02:04
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karangaDoes anyone know if there is there a shortcut keystroke to switch workspaces?02:04
shadowr3d alt-tab02:05
shadowr3dtry it02:05
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karangashadowr3d: that just seems to switch between apps02:05
shadowr3dKaranga its alt-tab02:05
shadowr3do02:06
_bender_How would I uninstall a program (using FireFox as example appy since managed to get it installed...so why not try uninstalling it now)02:06
baloniodo a google search for keybaord shortcuts kde... that's how I found them02:06
karangaok ta02:06
nagyvkaranga: you can set your own (and find out the actual ones under system settings.02:06
nagyvI would like to repartition an usb connected external hdd, but qtparted always says: "Critical error during ped_disk_new". What does it mean?02:06
karangahehe polite way of saying rtfm lol02:06
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nagyv_bender_: how did you installed it? via adept?02:06
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nagyv_bender_: if it's a normal debian package (.deb extension) then you can uninstall it with adept02:07
shadowr3dAnyone know what katapult is?02:07
_bender_I installed it via sudo apt-get install firefox02:07
nagyvshadowr3d: yeah, it's a cool app! :)02:07
Hawkwind!katapult02:07
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.02:07
shadowr3dok02:07
shadowr3dthanks02:07
balonioIts ctrl+alt+"arrow key"02:07
sethkaranga, you can set one up in SystemSettings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard shortcuts > "Walk Through Desktops"02:08
nagyv_bender_: use adept to uninstall it (and also to install packages if you don't know their names02:08
_bender_Ah kk, but is there a long way to do the uninstall (if Adept ever doesn't work...unless it always does then nm)02:08
balonioAnyone have experience with GCC4.0?02:09
nagyvapt-get remove packagename02:09
nagyv_bender_:02:09
shadowr3dWOW OMG THAT IS SO COOL I NEVER KNEW THAT thanks ubotu now i know what katapult is02:09
_bender_ah kk02:09
nagyvI would like to repartition an usb connected external hdd, but qtparted always says: "Critical error during ped_disk_new". What does it mean?02:09
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_bender_Seems alot easier than I remember...since thought uninstalling/installing apps was nightmarish on Linux02:10
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seth_bender_, nope... package management is beautiful02:10
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shadowr3dnagyu02:10
nagyv_bender_: I think it's just an urban legend :)02:10
seth_bender_, just don't try to compile and install apps yourself unless you know what you're doing... you'll most likely never get them uninstalled :)02:10
shadowr3dif noboby answers you its because they dont know or dont want to help you02:10
_bender_lol ah well that's what I have irc for :D02:10
_bender_and yah..probably an urban legend...but the last time tried Linux (Slax...wee...) it didn't go quite as well02:11
sethshadowr3d, that is why he is continuing to ask, in case someone new has come in who knows the answer (or returned from afk)02:11
shadowr3dwhat else is cool on kubuntu besides the games and wine and katapult and amarok02:12
shadowr3dok02:12
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balonioum, yeah.... plus I'm tying to regiter so I can private msg02:12
balonioREGISTER02:12
nagyvhow could I repartition a drive?02:12
serishemahi kubuntu newbie here looking for help02:12
_bender_Aren't we all :o02:12
sethnagyv, destructively or non?02:12
shadowr3drezise it and pick how many gigs you want it to have02:13
nagyvseth: non02:13
serishemaeverything worked fine until i tried to set up dual monitors02:13
serishemaat which point X will only work in recovery mode02:13
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serishemai tried editing my /etc/X11/Xorg.conf by hand as i would in freebsd02:13
nagyvshadowr3d: which program?02:13
serishemabut that didn't work the X configuration seems to be stored somewhere else02:13
Telroth_Plushie|nagyv, have you googled on that error?02:13
sethnagyv, I'd try gparted... it has always given me better results than qtparted02:13
shadowr3dwhat do you mean02:13
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Telroth_Plushie|just copy the error message into google and search, best way to find answers02:13
shadowr3doh yeah02:14
sethnagyv, make sure your disk is unmounted before attempting02:14
Telroth_Plushie|99.9% chance you aren't the only one having problems and someone else has posted about it02:14
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nagyvTelroth_Plushie|: thx02:14
Telroth_Plushie|80% chance someone replied to him with how to fix it ;)02:14
Telroth_Plushie|*then02:14
shadowr3ddoes someone know any cool apps on kubuntu besides wine amarok and katapult?02:15
balonioits something  basic.... cant find stdio.h02:15
serishemaif you are into programming try out sun studio02:15
shadowr3dwhats that02:15
serishemait's the reason i'm switching it's better than visual studio02:16
baloniovery frustrating02:16
serishemasun's C/C++ and java development tools02:16
shadowr3dany other kool apps get it k-ool because of kde always has k02:17
baloniohow do you tell gcc where the libraries are? I thought that is what #include <"library"> is for... is syntax wrong?02:17
h3sp4wnbalonio: Install the libc headers02:18
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h3sp4wnlibc6-dev02:18
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baloniohow do I tell if they are installed?02:18
balonioaren't they there by default?02:18
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balonioI'm gonna check apt get right now......02:19
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shadowr3ddoes someone know any cool apps on kubuntu besides wine amarok and katapult?02:20
StriderAnyone care to help out a complete linux newbie?02:20
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shadowr3dsure02:21
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_bender_Hmm...trying to setup the workgroup from my XP machines with Kubuntu, but when: Internet & Network /// Sharing /// it's got a big red outline around the greyed out features (even after entering in the admin password...)02:21
StriderI do I log into the admin account for I can have write access to some of the system files?02:21
shadowr3d?02:21
baloniothanks shadowr3d, they wern't installed....02:22
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shadowr3dwhat do you mean balonio02:22
StriderI'm trying to edit the etc/apt/sources.list file, but I don't have write access. I want to know how I can get write access for I can edit that file :).02:22
HawkwindStrider: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list02:22
HawkwindStrider: Replace kwrite with your favorite GUI editor of choice02:23
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StriderOkay, thank you.02:23
shadowr3dbalonio:what do you mean??????02:23
serishemaI can't find anything on the net02:24
serishemalooks like i have no option but to reinstall02:25
balonioShadowr3d, that was it! thanks man... Now it's off to geek heaven for a while02:25
nagyvhm, I have a 120Gb hdd, with the first 24Gbs free. qtparted gives up an error message, and gparted shows the whole thing as unallocated. Any ideas to resize the second partition to get the whole hdd?02:26
shadowr3dwhat do you mean balonio;02:26
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Karangais there a webpage that points you to the 'best' linux apps for certain apps? e.g. amarok highly recommended as a media player ?02:27
balonioYour solution, I didn't have the libraries installed... I just did and my program compiles02:27
nagyvKaranga: I have found such a page once, but don't remember. I think there was a windows equivalent too. Hope this will help to google!02:28
balonioIt is such a basic program so I knew it was something simple02:28
sethKaranga, one second02:28
shadowr3di wasnt the one who helped you balonio sorry02:28
KarangaI see the light at the end of the tunnel :o)02:28
shadowr3di cant take credit for someone elses work02:28
balonioSorry, man Helspawn, wron 733t name... lol!!!!!!!!02:29
baloniowell shit, then TIA!02:29
balonioDid you get that Hellspawn?02:30
balonioI'm still laughing02:30
shadowr3dlol02:30
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balonioThe messages, captain, they are coming fast and furious...02:31
sethKaranga, http://www.in.redhat.com/AppComparisonList.php3 is one02:31
Karangaseth: thanks once again! do you come in a pocket booklet version :o)02:32
seth:P02:32
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KarangaDo I need to uninstall Konqueror to stop it taking hold of every web link?02:33
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Karangaseth: thanks for that link - just what I was looking for! alot is obvious but so many others I will have to try later.02:35
plugsdoes anyone know a good program for mounting .iso's?02:36
sethKaranga, SystemSettings > KDE Components > Web Browser02:36
sethKaranga, make sure you install Firefox via Adept, and not by downloading it manually02:36
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angasuleto download the sources of a package I should search for packagename-source , right?02:38
angasule!source02:38
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:38
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Karangaseth: stupid Q but are you running ubuntu? I know I am in Kubntu but i thought the version were just for different user types and not distro's. Donning my flame suit as we speak hehe02:38
angasule!easysource02:38
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:38
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sethKaranga, I run Kubuntu on both machines... edgy on my dev box and dapper on this one02:39
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sethangasule, to get source you should run "apt-get source packagename"02:40
angasuleseth: thanks :)02:40
sethangasule, you will need package dpkg-dev first :)02:40
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unclemike? how do i detect sound card02:41
derocan someone help me?02:41
sethdero, just ask... don't ask to ask ;)02:42
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derolol02:42
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deroi'm trying to get wine to work with my cd rom drive02:43
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derothe problem is there is no config file02:43
Karangaseth: just googled the difference - so there is nothing different under the skin just startx visuals ( although you seem to champion k*)02:43
deroso i can't add drives02:43
KarangaAnyone have screenshot site of Kubuntu and Ubuntu? (*goes red^* I thought K*ubuntu was used for education for some strange reason). I will be in the corner hiding!02:44
sethKaranga, the thing with Linux is that you run a "window manager" on top of linux itself02:44
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deeoKaranga: edubuntu?02:44
sethLinux is WM-agnostic, unlike Windows, where the window manager *is* the OS02:45
deroBAHHHH !!!!! I WANT WINE TO WORK!02:45
sethKaranga, OSDir has the best screenshots02:45
sethdero, your best bet is winehq02:45
deroi been there for hours02:45
seth:(02:45
deeodero, you don't need a config file.02:46
shadowr3danyone know how to get a aud and an ogg sound to play on amarok02:46
derothey say edit the config file when i isntalled wine with adept it didn't come with one02:46
deeoln -s /dev/cdrom "~/.wine/dos_devices/c:"02:46
deeothat's the old method, and it still works02:46
_bender__brb02:46
deeobut now those devices are just referenced by symlink in that directory02:47
Karangadeeo: that would make a lot of sense but make me out to be a real retart lol - OK i give in i messed up! - I am slowly -- very slowly getting to grips with *ux. Thanks Seth and  deeo I get it a little more now02:47
deeoactually you probably want f: instead of c:02:47
shadowr3danyone know how to get a aud and an ogg sound to play on amarok02:47
derook i'm trying to run Red alert 2 when i open autorun it asks me for a cd also when i open set.exe02:47
derosetup*02:47
deroi think i give up and gona load windows again :(02:48
deeogood plan.02:48
derodeeo cleary you can help me, will you?02:49
KarangaWhat's the best primer exam to take in Ubuntu?02:49
shadowr3dtry going to wine website and see what works under wine in the reviews02:49
deeoif you have win32, i suggest you use that.02:49
deroi'd much rather use this though02:49
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deeookay, then i'd suggest asking the wine pros in #winehq02:50
shadowr3dlike i said look at the what works in red alert 2 ine the wine web02:50
shadowr3dyeah02:50
shadowr3dor try what i said02:50
shadowr3danyone know how to get a aud and an ogg sound to play on amarok02:50
sethogg should play by default02:51
derois there a gui for wine, with fadora the wine come with a gui and its easy just to add a cd rom drive can i download one somewhere?02:51
unclemike? what command do i use to detect sound card02:51
shadowr3dwhat about aud?02:51
Hawkwinddero: Have you talked to the guys in #WineHQ ?02:51
Hawkwinddero: Those guys are truly the experts and could help you the best02:51
plugsshadowr3d have you tried sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:51
shadowr3dtry #winehq02:51
Hawkwindunclemike: Look in systemsettings02:51
deroi don't want to wait days for a reply02:52
shadowr3dno i havent ill try02:52
deeodero02:52
Hawkwinddero: Linux is about patience02:52
deeowould you ask in #microsoft about photoshop02:52
Hawkwinddero: Without, you won't get far02:52
deeono, so please don't expect too much in #kubuntu about wine :)02:52
Hawkwinddero: Also, try looking at their website, winehq.org or .com whatever it is02:52
deroi have patience no one replyed when i aked on ubuntu forums to get my winmodem to work02:52
Hawkwinddero: Have you searched google, and other forums ?02:53
deroyes02:53
Hawkwinddero: There are tons of docs out there.  You just have to put forth the effort to read02:53
deroi searched for 2 hours and gave up so i came here now u's are sauing me to search more, bit harsh i think.02:53
Hawkwind!wine02:53
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:53
HawkwindRead that page there02:53
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plugsin windows i can mount an iso to a virtual drive, can this be done in linux?02:53
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shadowr3dReading package lists... Done02:53
shadowr3dBuilding dependency tree... Done02:53
shadowr3dPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:53
shadowr3dThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:53
shadowr3dis only available from another source02:53
shadowr3dE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate02:53
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Hawkwinddero: Linux is all about reading when you can't find someone that knows the answer02:53
Hawkwind!paste02:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:53
shadowr3dthats what it said02:53
Hawkwindshadowr3d: ^^^^^^^^^^^^02:53
shadowr3dsorry02:54
deeoplugs: easily.  sudo mount /path/to/isofile.iso /media/cdrom0 -o loop02:54
derowhen i find a doc it says add bah  bah bah to config file when i got wine from adept it didn't come with a config file02:54
shadowr3dim sorry about that everyone02:54
shadowr3dplease accept my apologies02:54
deeoplugs: does that help at all?02:54
plugsdeeo about the /media/cdrom0 part02:54
plugsi already have something there i think02:54
deeono problem02:54
plugsi'll just try it02:55
deeothat piece can be any directory you want to mount to02:55
deeoyou can put it in your home directory if you prefer02:55
plugsi see02:55
deeomkdir LoopbackDisc02:55
deeofor example02:55
shadowr3dplugs:thats what it said when i did sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:55
dero"<Hawkwind> dero: Linux is all about reading when you can't find someone that knows the answer" i tryed reading, deeo knowns the answer, he won't tell me.02:55
plugsshadowr3d i'm not sure what to do, sorry02:55
shadowr3doh thatsok02:56
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eaglehawkanybody... is socks support built-in in the kubuntu or we need to install any software02:56
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deeoeaglehawk: socks is sort-of program-centric, but KDE has a unified socks proxy setup, yes.02:56
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Hawkwinddero: Then that's why you really need to talk to the guys who make the program.  They can help you the best02:56
deropffft02:57
deeodero, pay me <302:57
deroi would help you guys if you need help02:57
derobye02:57
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deeoi hate spending my time on a lazy person.02:57
eaglehawkbut when i click test...is says socks not loaded02:57
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derohow am i lazy i cleary avioding asking people by searching the net and u can help me but can't02:58
deeoeaglehawk: well socks is sorta touchy that way, let me take a look.02:58
shadowr3d does anyone else know how to get a aud and an ogg sound to play on amarok?02:58
plugsdeeo it looks like it worked, but it looks like it's just two folders. how can i treat it as a real dvd drive?02:58
deeodero: because i got that answer for you by googling it.02:58
shadowr3do wait ill ask amarok no duh02:58
deeodero: i really have no idea.02:58
derowhat did you search02:58
deeoplugs: it is real, in what context do you need 'real'?02:58
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eaglehawksorry deeo didnot get you02:59
deeodero: http://eliduc.berlios.de/index.php/StarCraft_Linux02:59
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derothank you02:59
Hawkwinddero: We gave you URL's to read and follow.  Why can you not follow them ?02:59
plugsdeeo it's a movie i made an iso of so how could i treat it as a dvd?02:59
Hawkwinddero: If I used the app or knew about it, I'd tell you what to do. But I've never once used wine for anything03:00
deeoplugs: ah, you don't even really need to mount it in that case.03:00
plugswell i tried just clicking it but it opened in k3b and kaffeine didnt play it03:00
deeoa video DVD becomes VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS i believe, if you want to play it, just use your fave media player and hit 'play disc'03:00
plugsdeeo, play disc then pick the iso?03:01
deeoOpen DVD didn't play?03:01
deeowas there an error?03:01
plugsi dont know if i tried ._. i'll try right now03:01
plugsi added it to the playlist03:01
deeowell, a DVD has its own playlist internally03:01
plugsright that makes sense now03:01
deeoso, for SOCKS you need to have a socks library at least03:02
plugsi clicked open dvd and got "The source can't be read."03:02
deeoi suggest dante03:02
eaglehawkwhere to get it man03:02
deeoplugs: is this a commercial DVD?03:02
deeoeaglehawk: adept03:02
plugsyeah03:02
derook the link you just send me is about the config file the command winecfg kubuntu wine didn't come with this file, what did you search about the symlinks03:02
deeoplugs: in that case, it's probably encrypted03:02
Hawkwinddero: What config file is it wanting/needing ?03:03
plugswell i think it was just looking in /dev/dvd03:03
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deeoand that isn't where the dvd device is?03:03
Hawkwinddero: First off...did you run the 'winecfg' command ?03:03
dero./wine/config <-- should be there, its not. didn't coem with it, i can't add cd rom drive03:03
Hawkwinddero: It seems that that command is what creates the config file possibly03:03
deeodero, that file is OLD and NOT USED ANYMORE03:03
derook03:04
deeoln -s /dev/dvd ~/.wine/dos_devices/e:03:04
deeodo that03:04
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deeojust that03:04
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deeotry again03:04
derook03:04
deeoand please, stop nagging.03:04
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Hawkwinddeeo: Ahhhh, so you know about wine.  Good good :P03:04
deeothat's the answer, you have the wrong problem if it doesn't work.03:04
deeoHawkwind: no, i just googled FOR that guy.03:04
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deeoi'm reading it off a spanish wine page about starcraft03:04
Hawkwinddeeo: Shoot me the URL you found please03:05
HawkwindOhhhh03:05
HawkwindI don't speak spanish, so nevermind03:05
HawkwindHah03:05
deeome either.03:05
deeoi speak unix commands03:05
HawkwindHmmmm, surely winehq.org has the commands03:05
Hawkwinddeeo: Unixnese :P03:05
deeothey're all over the place :/03:05
deeoeaglehawk: just search for 'dante'03:05
_bender__When using Adept does it remove all the dependencies that the program installed or does it leave those behind?03:05
jarrsteri'm having problems playing mp3s03:05
deeoi've never used it before, so as far as setting that up goes, i can't help you.03:05
jarrsterany help?03:05
deeojarrster: you probably want akode03:06
Hawkwind!mp303:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:06
Hawkwindjarrster: Have you read those pages there yet ?03:06
Hawkwindjarrster: By default, Kubuntu doesn't have mp3 playback support03:06
jarrsternot yet03:06
jarrsterthanks03:06
Hawkwindjarrster: So you have to install a few things, which the RestrictedFormats page describes03:06
jarrsteralright cool, i should be able to figure that out03:07
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deeoplugs, any luck?03:07
jarrsteri also am having a problem with mounting my maxtor onetouch external03:07
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plugsdeeo i pm'ed you that i couldnt find package decss03:09
deeoplugs: ah, you need to have universe and/or multiverse repositories in your adept source03:09
plugsi'm pretty shure i do though03:10
plugsi have my sources.list right here and i just did apt-get update03:10
deeohm, not sure then.03:10
plugs"deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse"03:10
deeomaybe i have the name wrong03:10
plugsi think that might be it03:10
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deeolibdvdread/libdvdcss.03:11
angasulewhy is automake 1.4 installed, and not a newer version? I tried to compile a KDE app and it says KDE requires automake 1.6 or higher03:11
deeoone of those, actually.03:11
deeoangasule: no reason, install automake1.9 if you'd like.03:12
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angasuledeeo: ok, thanks03:12
plugsdeeo "libdvdcss2 is already the newest version."03:12
plugsX| lol03:12
deeoplugs: well thats good03:12
plugshmmmm03:12
jarrsterhey hawkwind, some of the files i need to download aren't available on the adept manager03:14
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deeojarrster: did you setup your repositories?03:15
Hawkwindjarrster: Have you setup all your repos like multiverse, universe ?03:15
Hawkwind!repos03:15
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:15
jarrsteri will now, thanks guys03:15
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deeoy'know i should probably be working.03:16
deeocheerio all03:16
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plugsdeeo it's somewhat working03:18
plugsi got it playing in MPlayer03:18
plugsbut it's freaking out a bit03:18
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deeocool, try xine then i suppose03:19
eaglehawkanybody how know how to make pen work on tabletpc03:19
deeoare you playing it with: mplayer dvd://03:19
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deeoeaglehawk: i'd do it via the event interface, but i'm crazy like that.03:20
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plugsi don't know what i'm doing03:22
plugsi'll try xine03:22
_bender__hmm kk will admit falling for Kubuntu03:22
_bender__The urban legends of hell and fire and all that were false :o03:22
DaSkreech_bender__: The KK<3K ?03:23
_bender__lol <3 for the K03:24
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eaglehawkanybody how to access microsoft windows share in kubuntu03:26
_bender__I've been wondering that too03:26
_bender__Gaining access to the rest of the network would be good :p03:26
Hawkwindeaglehawk: You can use samba03:26
h3sp4wnsmbmount03:26
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_bender__Samba come with Kubuntu or?03:26
HawkwindYou can install it03:27
_bender__Ah kk, shoudl be easy enough03:27
Hawkwind!samba03:27
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:27
eaglehawkbut do I need some configuration to make my share accessable to network03:27
HawkwindGood how-to there03:27
_bender__Ah thx :D03:27
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DaSkreech_bender__: Try typing smb:/ in konqueror03:29
_bender__hmm kk03:29
deeoit's such a bummer that Mono is part of Gnome...03:30
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_bender__Ah didn't come up with anything03:30
bioticprowhats a good program to make animated gifs from mpg/avi clips?03:30
deeoffmpeg, mplayer, sorta03:31
deeosee, first you split it into a bunch of Targas, or GIFs03:31
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Darius[TEA] morning03:31
deeothen recombine them all into a gif using... *calls upon the powers of Captain Planet to remember, light shafts beaming from his fingertips*03:31
deeodamn, can't remember.  but there's a little project for doing just that, somewhere.  gifcombine or something.03:32
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deeog'mourning03:32
omostrgood night03:33
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jarrsterwhat does it mean if under install i get a "break" message when using adept03:33
jarrster??03:33
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tyler_dmy movies are all lagging?03:34
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h3sp4wndeeo: Know of any distro's who don't include mono (on principle ?)03:34
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jarrsterhey hawkwind, i keep getting a "break" message when I try to download some of the files03:36
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_bender__Looking at the Samba download site and not see'ing Ubuntu listed..this mean am gonna have to use source or is there another "package" type that Ubuntu can open?03:36
bioticprodeeo: thx03:37
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Hawkwindjarrster: Can you put into http://pastebin.ulteo.us your error messages ?03:38
InteliWaspcan someone help my figure out why i can't use the GUI?03:38
DaSkreechInteliWasp: You need a mouse03:38
HawkwindInteliWasp: What do you mean by GUI....GUI of what exactly ?03:38
InteliWasp... let me rephrase that....03:38
InteliWaspi just updated some pakages in adept, and after rebooting my monitor sudenly turnes off...03:39
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InteliWasp*during the boot proccess03:40
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HawkwindInteliWasp: What all got upgraded, and are you using any compiz/xgl stuff ?03:40
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nick_what program is the most popular for configuring and maintaining wireless profiles?03:40
jarrsterwhat language is the code?03:40
Hawkwindjarrster: Select none as it's plain text03:41
Hawkwindnick_: kwifimanager ?03:41
martehello, can i talk with any hacker here?03:41
nick_well i just installed that, but i also installed wifi-radar03:41
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InteliWaspHawkwind: i'm not shure what i updated since there were 140 some odd pakages that were updated (ie: i walked away...) but this is all stock03:42
Hawkwindmarte: What do you mean by 'hacker'03:42
DaSkreechmarte: Sure just abbable away03:42
nick_and i was wondering which worked the best...there are so many programs03:42
DaSkreechbabble even03:42
Hawkwindnick_: I can't answer that since I don't use wireless.  But I'd suggest trying them all and see what you like best03:42
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nick_Hawkwind: ok thanks03:42
HawkwindInteliWasp: Hmmm, maybe you got a bad xorg update ?03:43
angasulehmm, automake points to automake-1.4, is it safe to make it point to automake-1.9? as I don't see how to tell kdevelop to use automake-1.9 directly03:43
Hawkwindangasule: You could remove automake-1.4 if you wanted to03:43
InteliWaspHawkwind: i wonder if the video card is putting out a signal that is too high for the crapy monitor i have...03:43
HawkwindInteliWasp: Did you change monitors ?03:44
InteliWaspnope03:44
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angasulethanks, Hawkwind, will do03:44
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Darius[TEA] so, I'm trying to port some code to linux and I have kubuntu installed in vmware..03:45
martesorry03:45
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Darius[TEA] can anyone suggest why the #include's mention in various man pages don't appear to be correct?03:45
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InteliWaspHawkwind: is there a way to redetect the hardware and rewrite the configs?03:47
HawkwindInteliWasp: You could run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:47
nagyvhow can I delete ALL the files from a disk? (somthing like format c)03:48
InteliWaspHawkwind: if i run that as root, will it effect the user's configs as well?03:48
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HawkwindInteliWasp: That will reset your xorg.conf file for you03:49
shadowhywinddoes anyone have any experence with wireless and ipw2200 ?03:49
InteliWaspHawkwind: how do i send irissi to the background...03:49
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InteliWaspHawkwind: nevermind... i'll just leave and come back03:50
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deeoDarius[TEA] : such as which?03:51
soulriderhey everyone =)03:51
osirishow do i enable playback for realplayer in firefox with kubuntu03:53
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shadowhywindany body have any tips for ipw2200 wireless driver?03:59
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Hawkwindshadowhywind: Not I since I don't use wireless in Kubuntu04:02
Hawkwind!ipw220004:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipw2200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
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Hawkwind!wireless04:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:02
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shadowhywindthanks04:03
shadowhywindheres another question, how about the broadcom bcwm4311 driver and ndiswrapper?04:03
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shadowhywindi had it working yesterday, reinstalled kubuntu used the same drivers and now it don't work04:04
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deeois your wifi light on?04:05
deeo(laptop?)04:06
shadowhywindyes laptop, ndiswrapper is givving off erros04:06
deeowhich errors04:06
shadowhywindshould i spam paste them here?04:07
deeo!paste04:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:07
shadowhywindk the link is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2297404:08
deeobut you installed a driver for it?04:09
shadowhywindyes, ndiswrapper shows the driver and hardware present04:09
deeowell, make sure your wifi button is on, if you have one.04:09
shadowhywindit is on04:10
deeoi'd also lookup specific model details on that laptop, pertaining to wifi04:10
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shadowhywindwell thats the thing, there isn't much info *kind of a new laptop* but i don't understand why the driver wouldn't work seinse it worked in a previous install04:10
jayteewow! this chat room is pretty full04:11
DaSkreechjaytee: Ssshhhhh You'll wake them04:12
Jucatolol04:12
JucatoI'm one of those who was awakened :)04:12
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HawkwindJucato: Good morning!04:13
Jucatogood um...04:13
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Jucatoyep morning :)04:13
junkphreaksome one having wifi issues ?04:13
HawkwindHah04:13
junkphreaksorry i was eating04:14
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shadowhywindyes i am04:14
junkphreaklol04:14
shadowhywindhehe04:14
junkphreakso what kind of laptop ?04:15
shadowhywinda) hp dv6040 and b) a dell 600004:15
shadowhywindhp ) driver don't work in reinstall dell can't get ipw2200 to work, hehe04:16
junkphreakwhats your wireless card ?04:16
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junkphreakbroadcom 4311 ?04:16
shadowhywindyup04:16
shadowhywindi downloaded the driver from the dell package04:16
junkphreakok hav you used the fwcutter04:16
shadowhywindi am useing ndiswrapper04:17
junkphreakright04:17
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shadowhywindso no i ahven't used fwcutter04:17
junkphreaklet me find the info might have to pop on my work laptop04:17
junkphreakfound some good help sites got me going04:18
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shadowhywindoh?04:19
junkphreakwill need to email them to my self and will pm you04:19
junkphreakalso if i had timr need to make a howto and my script for init.d and rc.d to work on boot04:20
junkphreakgot tired of opening the kwifimanager and hitting connect04:21
shadowhywindsee what i allways did was had a shell wpa line to get mine workin04:22
junkphreakso you using wpa ?04:22
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shadowhywindyah04:22
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!KPlayer04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about KPlayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!K Player04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about K Player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
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shadowhywindi had everything working, but then i reinstalled and now can't get anything working04:23
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiHmmmmm04:23
Jucato!kmplayer > CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi04:23
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiJucato:  that the same thing as KPlayer?04:23
JucatoI think so, not exactly sure though. but that's the only "K"+"player" that we have in the repositories, AFAIK04:24
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiHmmm  ok04:24
junkphreakwhats your email address04:24
junkphreakshadowwhywind04:24
shadowhywindnot going to sell it for spam are you *snickers*04:25
junkphreaklol04:25
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junkphreakno pm me04:25
shadowhywind*don't know how to do that in konversation04:26
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Jucatoshadowhywind: just click on his name, and if you're nick is registered, you'll be able to send a PM04:26
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shadowhywindthat worked.. hehe04:27
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shadowhywinddid you get that message junkphreak?04:27
RawSewagewhere are fonts located04:27
shadowhywind.font in your home dir04:27
RawSewagety04:27
JucatoRawSewage: try typing in "fonts:/" in Konqueror04:27
Jucatobut that's just a kio slave. but very useful for drag and drop...04:28
junkphreaknpe04:28
shadowhywindtry to send me a pm and see if that works04:28
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shadowhywindyou know, i don't really care that much, use daritha@gmail.com04:30
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi!WMV04:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:30
junkphreakshadowwhywind http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2297504:30
junkphreaklol now :p04:31
junkphreakok ?04:31
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RawSewageOk, I have an anime video file, that has English and Japanese audio tracks.  What would I use to set the default audio to Japanese04:32
junkphreakok brb04:32
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shadowhywindok looks like the first link does the bcm43xx driver *which doesn't work* so going to look at second link04:35
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junkphreaki had to blacklist my kernel driver04:40
shadowhywindi wonder if thats what is causeing all my problems04:41
junkphreak# get rid of the default kernel drivers04:41
shadowhywindi ahven't done that04:41
junkphreakblacklist bcm43xx04:41
shadowhywindbut at the same time its not loaded04:41
junkphreak#/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist04:42
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deeoah right.04:43
deeoforgot about that issue04:43
junkphreak:}04:43
deeo0000:03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)04:43
_bender__What kernel is Ubuntu related to (package wise...)04:43
shadowhywindthank you junkphreak, i am going to reboot and see what happens04:43
junkphreaki made a simple script too to help with boot up to getonline04:43
junkphreakif you want it04:43
Jucato_bender__: Dapper has 2.6.15, Edgy has 2.6.17. Is that what you mean?04:44
Hawkwind_bender__: Dapper comes with 2.6.15-23 if that's what you are asking04:44
shadowhywindlet me see if this helps, and i will see first ok?04:44
shadowhywindi shall be back04:44
junkphreakok04:44
_bender__I'm not even sure what Dapper is yet...04:44
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Hawkwind_bender__: Dapper is Kubuntu 6.06 which was released on June 1st, 200604:45
Hawkwind_bender__: It's the latest stable version of the OS04:45
junkphreaklove this #update-rc.d to incert the script for my wifi :}04:45
_bender__Ah kk, that's the one I downloaded I believe, but kk if it comes with it even better (saves me time from installing it)04:45
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_bender__On a completly unrelated topic...gottay say this room=god send for using Kubuntu this time...with Slax all I had was Google04:47
JucatoDapper Drake is the codename for Kubuntu 6.06 (and 6.06.1) LTS (Long Term Support)04:47
_bender__Ah that's what the LTS means04:48
Jucato_bender__: there are also other resources you could use like the forums, or the mailing lists. be sure to check out the wiki and online docs as they provide invaluable information :)04:48
pterandonhello.04:49
pterandonI need to know how to make a symbolic link04:49
_bender__Yah, got both up as we speak too lol, but reallyyy like real time answers :)04:49
junkphreakln -s04:49
junkphreakwhat you ned to link ?04:49
pterandonhttp://www.blender.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=55830#5583004:50
Jucatooooo blendah! :)04:50
Hawkwindpterandon: ln -s /old/path /new/path04:50
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pterandonLook at "Linny's" advice.    To make blender work on kubuntu, you gott a do that.04:50
shadowhywindso guess what that didn't work04:51
pterandonno, I just didn't know to do that.04:51
junkphreaklol hawkwind your to fast04:51
junkphreaki was reading darnit04:51
Jucatopterandon: so you're experiencing this kind of problem, using ATI?04:51
Hawkwindjunkphreak: No need to read, I'm experienced :P04:52
pterandonWell, I get crashes like they describe.  But I'm too dense even to figure out what directories they ln -s'ed.04:52
junkphreakno i was reading the link :p04:52
Jucatopterandon: but you are using ATI? (since the "fix" seems to apply only to ATI)04:52
junkphreakhe posted04:52
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shadowhywindso any other ideas junkphreak04:52
Jucatoactually it's more than just making a symlink, but actually correcting a broken link...04:53
junkphreakwell whats all been done04:53
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pterandonsorry, can someone keystroke it out for me?04:54
Hawkwindpterandon: What kind of video card do you have ?04:54
pterandonumm, dunno.04:54
Jucatopterandon: err... that's gonna be a problem...04:54
Jucatocoz Linny's "fix" is meant for ATI video card users04:55
Hawkwindpterandon: Do you have Nvidia, ATI or onboard ?04:55
pterandonI wouldda guessed nvidia. is there a quick way to check?04:55
JucatoAFAIK, Nvidia doesn't have a /usr/lib/nvidia/lib directory, everything stops at /usr/lib/nvidia...04:56
junkphreakdmesg04:56
junkphreakin term04:56
Jucatoer.. wouldn't lspci work as well?04:56
junkphreakyea04:56
Hawkwindlspci | grep video04:57
pterandon nVidia Corporation NV1804:57
Hawkwindpterandon: Then you don't need that how-to.  It won't help you04:57
pterandonwah :(  thanks anway04:58
pterandonthe problem is that when I go to a graphics-intensive operation in blender, hitting "P" in object mode, it crashes.04:58
Hawkwindpterandon: Do you have your drivers installed for nvidia ?04:58
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pterandonum, a way to check?04:59
Darius[TEA] pterandon: could be dud memory and/or CPU04:59
Darius[TEA] or power supply04:59
Darius[TEA] or motherboard :)04:59
Darius[TEA] memtest86+ is a good place to start04:59
Hawkwindpterandon: glxinfo | grep render04:59
pterandonTwo boxes,  both a kubuntu and an xubuntu,  but NOT the knoppix box :P04:59
Hawkwindpterandon: Look for Yes or No  and do *not* paste all the output here04:59
pterandonError: unable to open display (null)05:00
Hawkwindpterandon: Then chances are you don't have them installed05:00
pterandonah!05:00
Hawkwind!nvidia > pterandon05:00
HawkwindIIRC you need the video drivers for blender or it just won't work05:00
Jucatoyou need hardware 3d acceleration for blender...05:00
HawkwindThat's what I thought05:01
Jucato:)05:01
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[Relic] anyone awake?05:08
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junkphreakboo!05:08
Jucato(-_-) zzZZzzzzz05:08
[Relic] how does one replace a base system package w/o getting everything else unistalled to update it to something slightly more up to date aka  ->  v0.9.7  to 1.6.705:09
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi[Relic] :  have ya tried apt-get update?05:10
shadowhywindso junkphreak - any other ideaas to get this working?05:10
junkphreakwell just read he links is how i got it working did you blacklist your kernel driver ?05:11
shadowhywindyah did that and restarted05:11
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi[Relic] :   ??05:11
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[Relic] adpet says there isn't an upgrade available05:12
[Relic] adept  :)05:12
Hawkwind[Relic] : What app are you talking about ?05:12
junkphreakHmmm sorry  dunno just read the links sorry05:12
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi[Relic] :  no, not adept..  in console05:13
shadowhywindand you don05:13
shadowhywinddon't have any experence with the ipw2200?05:13
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiopen terminal and type apt-get update05:13
carlo_hello05:13
junkphreaknope just the broadcom 4318 , 1105:13
JucatoCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: that would only work if there's an update of that package available in the repositories and if he has the proper repos enabled05:14
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiJucato: just tryin to walk him through it.. see what he's onde..05:14
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKigotta start somewhere05:14
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi*done05:14
Jucato:)05:14
Jucatowe can probably start by asking him what app/package he's talking about first, right? :)05:15
[Relic] spews a bunch of text but doesn't seem to do anything else05:15
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKilol05:15
[Relic] hplip05:15
Hawkwind[Relic] : What app are you talking about ?05:15
Hawkwind!info hplip edgy05:15
ubotuhplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.11-2ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 2216 kB05:15
HawkwindHeh, only 0.9.11 in Edgy.  So you will probably have to build it yourself05:16
sophie_ /quit05:16
junkphreakaww dont quit :}05:16
[Relic] figured that much but will there be problems installing it?05:16
Hawkwind[Relic] : That is something you can't really answer.  If it's built right, then no05:17
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKiim out guys..  TTYL05:17
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKio/05:17
[Relic] I can't remove the current one before hand05:17
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_bender__Umm...when I enter root password to get file sharing going (yes gotten that far lol) it just highlights the entire box in red yet doesn't let me adjust settings...grrr...05:21
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wryay kidz05:23
_bender__sup sup :p05:24
wrywoss d' haps as they say05:24
_bender__Resolving networking issues :p but other than that all is well05:24
_bender__lol05:24
wrynice one bender05:24
wryJust installed Kubuntu.... waitin for easyubuntu to do it's thing05:25
_bender__hmmm what's Easyubuntu?05:25
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_bender__Ah nm05:26
DaSkreech_bender__: have you installed samba server?05:26
_bender__*yay for google*05:26
_bender__Samba itself is installed (atleast according to Adept)05:26
shadowhywindirewater05:26
_bender__Is the server component a separate install?05:26
wryhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/05:27
Jucato!easyubuntu05:27
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:27
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_bender__Once done figuring out my netowrking might take a look at that05:27
DaSkreech_bender__: What are you trying to do?05:27
_bender__I'm trying to connect this Kubuntu desktop to a Windows workgroup (already setup and working)05:28
wrynice one ubotu... I was just gunna lrt the page speak for it's self.05:28
wryBrains not warm enough yet05:28
Jucato:)05:29
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argonautakubuntu is great05:30
junkphreaksure is :}05:30
_bender__Just reading over the Ubuntu guide on configuring Samba at moment, thinking might have to go through the console to do it if the GUI is gonna be messed like this05:30
Jucatoof course! :)05:30
_bender__and ohhh I agree Argo ;)05:30
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wryI just switched from ubuntu... for two reasons05:31
_bender__?05:31
wry1. I like the K environment better05:31
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IceKnight. Yourself?05:32
frixhiashello05:32
wryand 2. I was having problems with my system laggin like a mo fo as they say05:32
_bender__Ah, what kinda system Wry?05:32
_bender__And am using Kubuntu because found it a bit redundant running 2x Windows machines side by side (and becuase wanted to try Linux)05:32
wryI was hoping that it may have been because i was mostly running K apps, and therefore would be solved by switching to K05:33
frixhiasanybody have use the linux->ntfs?05:33
wryWould that be a fair assumption?05:33
_bender__Would assume it is05:33
_bender__lol05:33
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_bender__I think a secondary reason is because the community :P05:34
wrybender---> AMD XP+05:34
_bender__Hmmm AMD XP shoudl be enough usually...05:34
_bender__A64 ---> over there, but P3 700 MHz on this machine05:34
_bender__733*05:34
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SpAwNhell all i was told to try and install lm-sensors to help solve my prob....but i dont think that my computer has what is needed(its a year old dell) i installed lm-sensors and ran the detect command and i got this : No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them . but there is no mkdev.sh on my system05:35
SpAwN*hello05:35
HawkwindSpAwN: What are you trying to do exactly ?05:35
SpAwNh3sp4wn, recomended me installing05:35
SpAwNso im trying to05:35
wrybender--->yeah i's not too shaby a system XP+ 1800 w 512 RAM05:35
Dr_WillisSpAwN,  load the i2c modules I think05:35
SpAwNmy computer has been locking up at night05:35
HawkwindSpAwN: What are you trying to do ?05:35
_bender__Ohh not bad, more than enough for linux05:36
SpAwNfix my comuter....somthing is broken on it05:36
frixhiasnobody?05:36
wryit was workin fine to start with... but just spacked it at one stage05:36
frixhias:S05:36
_bender__Not sure what Linux>NTFS is :p05:36
SpAwNcausing random lock ups05:36
_bender__sorry05:36
HawkwindSpAwN: Can you be a bit more indepth please05:36
_bender__Less you mean Linux on NTFS...05:36
SpAwNDr_Willis, k i iwll try that thanks05:36
frixhiasahp sorry i forgot the link05:36
HawkwindSpAwN: Why do you need lm-sensors ?05:36
SpAwNHawkwind, i will awake to my computer compleatly frozen....nno mouse no screen no keyboard works05:37
notechtested the ram?05:37
SpAwNHawkwind, to keep an eye on temp and other things to see if i might have bad hardware05:37
HawkwindSpAwN: Why not just run gkrellm05:37
SpAwNnotech, yea about a month or so ago ...b4 i reinstalled windows and installed ubuntu05:37
HawkwindSpAwN: gkrellm doesn't need lm-sensors anymore starting with the 2.6 kernel05:37
SpAwNHawkwind, oh damn realy?05:38
SpAwNHawkwind, and it will tell me the same info?05:38
wrynotech--> who, me?05:38
notechSpAwN: any errors during that test? how long did you let it run?05:38
_bender__brb washroom break (lest I pass out and die from abdominal issues)05:38
HawkwindSpAwN: Absolutely05:38
notechHawkwind: i still had to use lm-sensors with 2.605:38
SpAwNnotech, well i started it then went out for a few hours.....so probly a good 4 hours05:38
HawkwindSpAwN: Look at my screenshots.  They all have gkrellm showing fan speeds and temps05:38
frixhiashere: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/05:39
Hawkwindnotech: You shouldn't.  It's not required anymore on any distro that I know of05:39
SpAwNHawkwind, do u need any kinda special sensor or anything?05:39
notechSpAwN: i'd run it longer, but any errors in 4 hours?05:39
HawkwindSpAwN: Yeah.  Your system has to have temp sensors on whatever it is you want to see the temp of.  If it doesn't, lm-sensors won't help you either05:39
SpAwNnotech, no.....none....i bought 2 gigs of ram about 8 months ago05:40
notechSpAwN: if your bios has the temp screen then it should work05:40
[Relic] yay!  I can print and scan now if I can remember to set up prper directories when rendering something for 6 hours so it doesn't get deleted I will be ok  :)05:40
SpAwNlm-sensors didnt detect anything05:40
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SpAwNhmmm the nvida tols thing detect how hot my vidcard is...but i think its cuz i have a nice nvidia card....i use a dell...so not to sure if i will be able to use them :/05:41
SpAwN*tools05:41
notechwry: no, didn't see a question from you :)05:41
notechSpAwN: check your bios and see what it offers for temps, fan speeds, etc05:42
SpAwNahh yea i will after i finish this....its be cool if i did have it05:43
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SpAwNbrb05:45
wryOK this is wierd.. I'm using all my RAM, and I'm only running this Konqueror and System load!!!05:46
frixhiassomething strange happend to my kubuntu I install gdesklet (superkaramba don't works well), and this thing install gnome? wtf? :S is that right?05:46
wryoops almost all not all... 480 of 512... but still lots05:46
Hawkwindwry: That's a good thing05:47
Hawkwindwry: Linux handles RAM totally opposite of how Windows does.  So the more you're using means the more things are cached, which means things will open and run faster05:48
wryHawkind---> yeah?05:48
Hawkwindwry: The system can and will cache things the entire time your system is booted until it needs to free some to run something new05:48
wryOh... nice one05:48
Hawkwindwry: Linux is smart like that :P05:49
Dr_Willisand people have a hard time understanding that. :P05:49
wrycheers... yeah I knew it was clever, but not that way05:49
HawkwindDr_Willis: That they do.05:50
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wryno wuckas... all I need to remeber is that the more RAM free the worse, yeah?05:50
InteliWaspwhat do i need to do to make my broadcom wireless card to work?05:51
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HawkwindInteliWasp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517405:53
junkphreak:}05:53
HawkwindInteliWasp: Take a look at that05:53
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junkphreakalso here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2297505:54
BonBonTheJonanyone have any experince with RAID and ubuntu05:54
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SpAwNnope dont have any kinda fan info or temp or anything in my bios :/05:54
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HawkwindSpAwN: No soup for you05:55
HawkwindSpAwN: Have you even tried gkrellm ?05:55
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SpAwNHawkwind, trying it now05:55
SpAwNHawkwind, it detected my vid cards temp..but thats it05:56
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wdhelp......http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22978   "lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock"  ?05:57
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wrycheers guys take it easy yeah?06:01
junkphreakyou have 2 terms going ?  WD06:01
InteliWaspHawkwind: thanks06:01
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wdno06:02
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wdjunkphreak: no06:02
HawkwindInteliWasp: No problem06:03
junkphreakyou using synaptic ?06:03
InteliWaspjunkphreak,  that kinda reminds me of the adept lock...06:03
junkphreakyea06:03
wdjunkphreak: oh i had adept open but not using it. then i had term... i guess ur right..... sorry.06:04
junkphreak:}06:04
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wdwd@matrix:~$ sudo apt-get dist upgrade06:05
wdE: Invalid operation dist06:05
wdjunkphreak: ^^^06:06
junkphreakdist-upgrade06:06
junkphreak-06:06
wdjunkphreak: thnks.06:06
junkphreaknp06:07
frixhiasI can't hear videos in youtube.com i can see but not listen, anybody knows why?06:10
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Hawkwindfrixhias: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=108799406:13
Hawkwindfrixhias: Seems to be a fix for it there06:13
frixhiasok, thanks il will :D06:13
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inteliwasp_yay now my ex-trubblesome computer werks with linux06:17
nick_when i try to launch an app, the icon appears then disappears and nothing pops up...any help why that happens06:17
inteliwasp_now all i need it to figure out how to automaticly connect to specified networks...06:18
frixhiasRuntimeError: could not open display06:19
nick_anyone have an answer to mine?06:20
frixhiaswith easyubuntu i use automatix this not install the same?06:20
SpAwNlastnight the last entry in my syslog is "Sep  8 10:17:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[24913] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)" then the nest entry is me restarting my computer like 5 hours later i dont have any cronjobs set up....is ther cronjobs that are auto set up to run...that might cause the ssytem lockup?06:20
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SpAwNcrontab -l as the user shows nothing...06:21
HawkwindSpAwN: Again, that's perfectly normal06:22
InteliWaspWTF???!?!!!?!?! i think i found a glich in my box...06:22
HawkwindSpAwN: cron has things setup to run automatically by the system hourly and daily06:22
SpAwNHawkwind, yea i figured but hey....id rather ask then over look it06:22
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nick_how do you run an application in konsole?06:29
Kr4t05nick_: <commandname>06:29
Kr4t05nick_: If you have the program installed to /usr/bin/, /bin/, etc, you can use the commandname. If it's a script or such sh <filename> may work.06:30
nick_kr4t05: thanks06:34
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nick_kr4t05: i have an app installed but when i click it, nothing happens...so i just ran it in Konsole and it opened but it doesn't respond06:35
nick_kr4t05: i just installed it...06:35
frixhiasI can't :S the easyubuntu show me an error, and the flash plugin didn't work too,06:36
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SnakeDoes anyone know the factoid call for the latest KDE off hand?06:58
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Snake!ping07:00
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Snake!fish07:01
jake1anyone here use xmms?07:01
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops07:01
SnakeGo die ubotu07:01
mariano_I'm trying to add a printer (parallel) with kde print wizard, but parallel port option is disabled. Help.07:02
mariano_(in windows printer is ok)07:02
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SpAwNthis might be a stupid question...but...has anyone installed xfce on kubuntu....i have it installed but it seems to be broken....cuz its defianlty not working right07:03
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halfbloodprincehey, people07:04
lnxkdesomeone using edgy and kde4?07:05
lnxkdehow do I start KDE4?07:05
Jobberwackythe trash service on the desktop doesn't work for me in xfce, haven't checked if that's a known bug07:05
Snake!edgy07:05
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:05
SnakeARGH07:05
Snakethis bot is fsckin retarded07:05
mariano_lnxkde: KDE4 is only for developers and unstable07:05
halfbloodprinceI just found out that I can't make the move from Windows to Kubuntu :((07:05
Snakehalfbloodprince,  whys that?07:06
lnxkdemariano_:  I know.07:06
halfbloodprinceSnake: Well, all my work requires me to work using Windows-based applications, so it seems to be pointless to move to Kubuntu, but I really want to107:06
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Snakehalfbloodprince,  dual boot it ?07:07
lnxkdeI am just tring to get it to load. no kdm entry07:07
halfbloodprinceSnake: Yes, I thought of that.. but then I'd be using Windows, mostly, wouldn't I?07:07
mariano_lnxkde: ok, try this: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php07:07
Snakehalfbloodprince,  well in my case, I do webdeving, and dreamweaver/photoshop isnt nix compt. but I find myself using windows only when I need those07:07
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lnxkdemariano_:  just did it ;)07:08
halfbloodprinceSnake: I'm a webdev too.. and I use Photoshop/notepad++ for my work.. occasionally use Illustrator07:08
Snakenotepad++, I wanted to check into that07:08
Snakehalfbloodprince,  if you code raw, I think youll really enjoy kate07:09
SnakeI <3 that app07:09
halfbloodprinceSnake: But doesn't work take up most of your time? What do you use Ubuntu for exactly?07:09
mariano_lnxkde: don't know then...but there is nothing new to see right now in kde 4...07:09
Snakehalfbloodprince,  I use ubuntu for everything aside from gaming and when im coding something in dreamweaver07:09
halfbloodprinceSnake: such as?07:10
halfbloodprinceBtw, does Google Talk work in Ubuntu?07:10
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SnakeJust anything, general websurfing, IRC, etc etc07:10
NDPTAL85Snake: Why can't you use Dreamweaver via WINE?07:10
Snakehalfbloodprince,  it works with kopete for sure07:10
mariano_Snake; coding in dreamweaver? Dreamweaver sucks for coding07:10
Snakemariano_,  how do you figure!?07:10
halfbloodprinceWhat's kopete07:10
Snakehalfbloodprince,  their multiprototol IM client for KDE07:11
mariano_Snake: I mean the editor, is really nasty07:11
halfbloodprinceSnake: okay.. and I've been wondering what significant benefits Kubuntu may have over Ubuntu?07:11
mariano_halfbloodprince: KDE :)07:11
Snakemariano_,  what do you mean exactly? If your using the WYSIWYG it generates sloppy code, but if you use it as a raw text coding program, its up to you to keep your code clean, and I do a fine job with and07:12
halfbloodprincemariano_ : Yeah, I get the KDE part, but how exactly is KDE better.. apart from the looks factor07:12
Snakehalfbloodprince,  well you can make the taskbar seperate from the kmenu for one07:12
Snake:-P07:12
Snakecant say the same for windows without extensive hacking07:12
halfbloodprincemariano_: Are there better apps for KDE?07:12
Snakehalfbloodprince,  just grab a desktop CD and test it out07:12
Snakeyou can play with kubuntu without installing it, I suggest you check out amarok media player, and kopete messaging07:13
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mariano_Snake: try coding with kate, quanta...i mean WRITE the code, you'll note the difference. (not talking about WYSIWYG)07:13
Snakemariano_,  I know, I love coding in kate as well, quanta annoys me07:13
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Snakemariano_,  but I like that I dont have to actually type most code in DW, it has that awesome drop down thing, I just tab, enter, done07:14
halfbloodprincemy main complaint with linux is the rendering of truetype fonts07:14
mariano_halfbloodprince: GNOME is meant to be so simple, that is...uncomfortable07:14
halfbloodprincethey don't look as good as they might on windows / osx ... or maybe that was just me07:15
Snakequanta has that as well, but if youve ever tried to make a table with multiple rows/colums in it, you see its signifigantly flawed and assuemes to much07:15
Snakehalfbloodprince,  I think your beating a dead horse :-P07:15
halfbloodprincei had tried out SuSE linux before.. and fonts like verdana looked like someone had squeezed them from the side07:15
Snakemost fonts look better in kubuntu for me than windows07:15
halfbloodprinceSnake: what do you mean?07:15
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Snakeespecially on my lappy07:15
halfbloodprinceSnake: Even truetype fonts?07:15
mariano_Snake: yes, with quanta you have to master html :)07:15
Snakehalfbloodprince,  that use to be a huge "annoyance" for most people ;-) some people carry it over just for the sake of argument07:16
halfbloodprinceAre you using Kubuntu right now?07:16
SnakeMines re-installing07:16
tyler_dradeon 9600, cannot get my fps over 150?? dual screen enabled, 6.06, drivers are new...???07:16
halfbloodprinceSnake: what do you mean by "used to be"07:16
Snakehalfbloodprince,  As in most of the issues from what ive seen have been solved, but almost all fonts used to look like crap07:16
Snakeand made people go :'(07:16
halfbloodprinceSnake: how long ago are you talking about07:17
Snakehalfbloodprince,  6 months - a year ;)07:17
halfbloodprinceSnake: Yea, I installed SuSE more than 6 months ago07:17
halfbloodprinceit was horrible07:17
SnakeHehe07:17
SnakeI havnt used suse for a while07:17
SnakeI dont have 5 cds to burn07:18
tyler_danyone know how to change the overlay from card controlled to interface?07:18
halfbloodprinceI'm hoping Kubuntu is better07:18
Snakehalfbloodprince,  the only thing that nags me with kubuntu is that whatever they did with KDE makes it seem slower than kanotix/SuSEs07:18
SnakeI dont know what it is07:18
mariano_Suse is nice, but yast is *very* slow07:18
Snakemariano_,  +107:18
Snakebut a godly app none the less07:18
halfbloodprinceSnake: are you saying Kubunti is slow?07:18
halfbloodprinceKubuntu*07:19
Snakehalfbloodprince,  I'm not saying its slow, but (atleast on my P3 is where I notice it) there is a considerable speed diffrence between SuSE and Kubuntu07:19
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halfbloodprinceSnake: I have a P4 1.7 ghz, 512 MB RAM07:19
Snakehalfbloodprince,  shouldnt notice to much07:20
Snakeon my work PC I dont see a diffrence07:20
Ash-FoxI love how I managed to royally screw up kdm by installing ubuntu-desktop07:20
Snake(P4 3.6Ghz 1 GB Ram)07:20
mariano_Snake: There are serveral guides to optimize *buntu startup..., and how to compile your own kernel...Both things boosts *buntu!07:20
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halfbloodprinceSnake: Also, will it detect my scanner, and are there any tools I can use to scan stuff07:20
Ash-Fox(Which I've now removed)07:20
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halfbloodprinceI have a Canon scanner07:20
Snakehalfbloodprince,  yulp, comes with scanning software (At least ubuntu did, give me 10 seconds and ill confirm for kubuntu) I cant tell if it will auto-detect it or not though07:21
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SnakeGO FASTER07:21
halfbloodprinceWhy do you use VMware07:21
SnakeI'm planning to get onto edgy07:22
mariano_Snake: Kubuntu, Ubuntu uses the same repositories. You can run anything that is available in ubuntu repositories07:22
Snakemariano_,  im aware of that, I want to check stock applications tho ;)07:22
halfbloodprinceI just saw some screenshots at OSDir of Kubuntu 6.10 knot 2.. what's the difference between that and 6.0607:22
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Snake:)07:22
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Snakehalfbloodprince,  all the updates come with 6.1007:22
SnakeInstead of install 6.06 + 300000000 gigs of updates :)07:23
halfbloodprinceSnake: what updates are these?07:23
Snakehalfbloodprince,  just security fixes etc etc, like you would have on windows07:23
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shadowr3dhi07:23
halfbloodprinceSnake: I never update my Windows.. I've heard nasty things about Windows collecting my info07:23
Snakewelcome07:23
Snakehalfbloodprince,  hehe, ubuntu doesnt collect info (to my knowledge)07:24
halfbloodprinceSnake: How easy is the Kubuntu installation/creating a dual boot07:24
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Snakehalfbloodprince,  very easy if you know how to use a partitionar07:24
HobbseeSnake: it doesnt.  popcon is the only thing that collects info, and you have to choose to turn that on07:24
Snakehalfbloodprince,  the whole install is graphical based07:24
Snakehalfbloodprince,  also, kubuntu comes with kooka scanning software ;-)07:24
Hobbseeof course, it's very helpful if people *do* turn it on, as then we get a popularity list of software07:25
Snakeinstalled by default07:25
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halfbloodprinceSnake: And creating a dualboot is simple? Coz I can really manage to screw things up when it comes to the partitioning part.. with the different types of partitions and all07:25
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shadowr3dkubuntu is easy to dual boot07:25
rpagatpatanping_07:25
Snakehalfbloodprince,  as long as you know how to split your hard drive into 2 paritions and tell it which one to install kubuntu to, youll be fine, grub will auto-detect windows and set everything up  for you07:25
wdhow do i get the libxine-extracodec to play all mp3, don't see it in package mgr.?07:26
shadowr3dsnake:all you have to pick is resize the hdd07:26
shadowr3dthen pick the gb or mb07:26
mariano_halfbloodprince: be carefull if you reinstall windows after installing k/ubuntu07:26
halfbloodprinceSnake: What I plan to do is, re-format my hard drive, install Windows on one partition and leave the rest of it unpartitioned07:26
Snakewd,  you can always open a teriminal and type "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodec" wiithout the quotes07:26
halfbloodprinceAnd then boot with the Kubuntu CD07:26
wdSnake: i'll try again.07:27
Snakehalfbloodprince,  that would work fine, always install windows first, and if you reinstall windows, you may have issues07:27
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Snakehalfbloodprince,  because windows is a control freak and over writes the master boot record07:27
mariano_btw, is there a way to backup MBR? (dd maybe?)07:27
Snakeand isnt kind enough to realize nix is also on the HDD07:27
halfbloodprinceSnake: I'm installing Windows first.. But should I create 2 partitions? Or should I just create one partition for Windows and leave the rest unpartitioned07:27
Snakehalfbloodprince,  doesnt matter, youll just end up making the second later in the kubuntu installer07:28
wdSnake: : Couldn't find package libxine-extracodec07:28
Snakewd,  have you done this:07:28
halfbloodprinceokay.... it won't touch my Windows partition, right?07:28
Snake!universe07:28
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:28
Snakehalfbloodprince,  not as long as you tell it not to07:28
Snakealright seriously now, ill brb :-D07:28
shadowr3dwhen i put the sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodec it says this------> E: Couldn't find package libxine-extracodec07:28
halfbloodprinceSnake, alright, thanks07:29
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Snake!info libxine-extracodec07:29
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ubotuPackage libxine-extracodec does not exist in any distro I know07:29
SnakeIt doesnt exist07:29
SnakeLOL07:29
Snakewd,  where did you get that package name07:29
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wdSnake: kubunto handbook i'm reading now.07:29
halfbloodprincehahaha07:29
Snakewtfh?07:29
shadowr3dsnake i dont't understand what you said07:30
wdSnake: multimedia codecs.07:30
Snake!mp307:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:30
halfbloodprinceWhere do I get v6.1007:30
SnakeWeird...07:30
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Snakehalfbloodprince,  (k)ubuntu website07:30
Snake!info libxine-extracodecs07:30
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB07:30
Snakethere we go07:30
plugsUgh, i wish my computer would grow an AGP port.07:31
Snakewd,  your missing an "s" at the end ;)07:31
Snakelibxine-extracodecs07:31
halfbloodprinceSnake: I looked in the download section of the Kubuntu web site and the only version available there is 6.0607:31
wdSnake: o crap...thanks.07:31
SnakeNp :)07:31
SnakeOH CRAP07:31
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Snakehalfbloodprince,  I am so sorry07:31
Snakehalfbloodprince,  6.10 is edgy, I was under false impression07:32
wdSnake: E: Couldn't find package libxine-extracodecs07:32
Snake-.-07:32
wdSnake: aaaugh.07:32
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halfbloodprinceSnake: So I should get 6.06?07:32
Snakehalfbloodprince,  correct :)07:32
Jobber_wackychanged to 6.06.107:32
halfbloodprinceI actually ordered a CD via ShipIt, but it might take a while.. it was delivered about a week ago..07:32
mariano_wd: www.getautomatix.com07:33
halfbloodprinceSo I'm wondering if I should download it anyway07:33
Snakemariano_,  good idea07:33
halfbloodprinceDownloading may take another week for me :p07:33
Snakehehe07:33
Snakehalfbloodprince,  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.1/07:34
Snakethats the one you want07:34
Snakewell07:34
Snakethats ubuntu07:34
SnakeI suppose you want kubuntu07:34
halfbloodprinceSnake: yeah07:35
halfbloodprinceHas anyone got stuff from ShipIt here?07:36
Snakehalfbloodprince,  http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06.1/ knock urself out07:36
Ash-FoxYes07:36
mariano_halfbloodprince: me, and I live in Argentina :D07:36
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Ash-FoxI got my copy of getright from ShipIt.07:36
Snakehalfbloodprince,  I have about 50 ubuntu cds and about 20 kubutnu cds from it07:36
halfbloodprincemariano_: how much time did it take for you to get it07:36
Snakehalfbloodprince,  took me 5 weeks for both shipments07:36
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mariano_halfbloodprince: 1 month, from the request to my door :)07:36
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halfbloodprincemariano_ : One month.. hmm..07:37
kuzmasterhey all07:37
halfbloodprinceI'm wondering if I should wait for the CD, or just download it07:37
halfbloodprincehey kuzmaster07:37
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ryan_it only took about 1 1/2 weeks for me07:37
wdSnake: r u suggesting i use ubuntu product......lol     totem / rhythmbox.......  gstreamer etc.....07:37
Snakeah07:37
Snakefinally07:37
Snakelol07:38
SnakeSysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.80GHz at 2806 MHz (5630 bogomips), , RAM: 289/357MB, 96 proc's, 15.23min up07:38
ryan_im itn the usa07:38
halfbloodprinceryan_: where are you from07:38
Snakewd: whatcha mean?07:38
halfbloodprinceaj07:38
halfbloodprinceah*07:38
wdSnake: it may work. huh?? what fo u use?07:38
ryan_usa....georgia07:38
Snakewd: I'm fairly lost...07:38
SnakeI apologize...07:38
wdSnake: sorry.. what do u use for mp3 and videos?07:38
mariano_wd: videos: mplayer, mp3: amarok or xmms07:39
wdmariano_: for kde?07:39
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halfbloodprinceI didn't like the look of amarok very much..07:39
mariano_wd: for kde you could use kaffeine07:39
halfbloodprinceis there a better looking player?07:39
SnakeThat was not even cool07:40
wdmariano_: i might as well install gnome...      lol07:40
Snakehalfbloodprince: You want amarok07:40
Snaketrust me ;)07:40
Snakehalfbloodprince: that is hands down the best media player in existance07:40
mariano_halfbloodprince: amarok rocks, really...07:40
halfbloodprinceSnake: I've used amarok.. I didn't like the look.. Helix looked good but it didn't play shit07:40
SnakeHeh07:40
kuzmasterwhat is better, kopte or gaim?07:40
Snakegaim is more stable07:40
kuzmasterk07:40
Snakekopete is prettier07:40
wdmariano_: i just want to play my mp3 and win videos avi,wma,mp3 etc... mpeg....07:40
kuzmastergaim it is then07:40
Snakewd: check into http://www.getautomatix.com07:41
wdSnake: i had that in ubuntu last year, bad things said about it,07:41
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kuzmasterare there any disadvantages of using automatix?07:41
mariano_wd: check www.getautomatix.com, then: videos: mplayer, mp3: amarok or xmms (I repeat)07:41
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Snakewd: the old code was bad, arnieboy has since stepped down and handed it over to a team who cleaned it up07:42
Snakeits a rather nice application now07:42
wdSnake: really07:42
Snakekuzmaster: Well you dont learn much about your system using it, pending what your goal in linux is07:42
kuzmasterohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,k07:42
Snakewd: trust me man, I used to be anti automatix to the core ;)07:42
kuzmasterits eaiser using apt-get07:42
mariano_sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=backup-mbr bs=512 count=107:42
mariano_1+0 records in07:42
mariano_1+0 records out07:42
mariano_Segmentation Fault07:43
mariano_:S07:43
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wdSnake: how do i do a search in adept? where do i type xmms? in the filter line?07:43
Snakewd: lemme look07:43
Snakebeen a while since I used that07:43
shadowr3dhow could i get audicity07:43
Snakeshadowr3d: sudo apt-get install aduacity07:44
Snakeaudicity*07:44
Snakewhatever07:44
mariano_wd: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper07:44
wdSnake: i liked easyubuntu myself.07:44
Snakewd: as did I07:44
wdmariano_: thanks07:44
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shadowr3dE: Couldn't find package audicity07:44
SnakeBut automatix seems to have way more options, and as I said, I havnt herd of much broken with the new code07:44
shadowr3dthats what it says07:44
Snake!info audicity07:44
ubotuPackage audicity does not exist in any distro I know07:44
halfbloodprincewhat's easyubuntu07:45
Snakeyou spelled something incorrectly07:45
mariano_shadowr3d: audacity07:45
shadowr3do07:45
wdSnake: i've been from ubuntu, kubuntu, xfce, back to gnome :)  last week gentoo, now back to ubuntu... man i'm tired. lol07:45
Snakehalfbloodprince: generally the same thing as automatix, it was nice when automatix was a pile of trash07:45
halfbloodprincewhat's wrong with gentoo? a friend of mine really likes it07:45
SnakeGentoo is great if your time is worth nothing07:45
Snake:-P07:45
wdhalfbloodprince: too advance for me, i'm still a newbie. it was blazzzzzzzing fast, but the irc folks have no patience.07:46
wdSnake: lol07:46
Snakewd: up at the very top of adept, it says "Search" just type it in there07:46
shadowr3dhow do i unistall kubuntu not that i want to just i want to know07:46
Snakeits in a active filters drop down07:46
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halfbloodprincesuse has some really mean irc folk07:46
wdSnake: thanks.07:46
Snakeshadowr3d: just delete the partions its on07:46
mariano_halfbloodprince: Your distribution does the job for you, not otherwise (gentoo)07:46
shadowr3dok07:46
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shadowr3dthnx07:47
Snakeshadowr3d: uh and you may need to restore your mbr07:47
Snakenot sure though07:47
Snakethat can be done with your windows disk07:47
halfbloodprinceman that automatix website is hard on the eyes..07:47
halfbloodprincedark red on grey07:47
Snakeyea it is07:47
wdSnake: mariano_ i'm gonna check out automatix brb07:47
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bill__does anyone know how to register /etc/fstab without having to reboot? what would be the command?07:47
halfbloodprinceholy crap automatix seems awesome!07:48
mariano_bill__: sudo mount -a07:48
DaSkreechSnake: Ubuntu does collect info07:49
bill__thanks mariano07:49
Ash-FoxUbuntu is spyware07:49
DaSkreechSnake: Never mind Hobbsee covered it :)07:49
kuzmasterhalfbloodprince, its....... eaiser to install packages, but you wont really learn much aobut the package07:50
SnakeDaSkreech: its not anything like windows though07:50
Snakelol07:50
kuzmasterAsh-Fox, wat do u mean?07:50
Ash-Foxkuzmaster, I'm joking :P07:50
kuzmasterAsh-Fox, ummmm......... yes....... i knew that .................07:50
halfbloodprincekuzmaster: wht do you mean?07:50
Snake-_-07:51
halfbloodprincewd: did you install automatix07:51
Ash-FoxI need to reinstall kubuntu, because I managed to mess up my entire system so much by installin ubuntu-desktop (and then removing it)07:51
bill__yeah, automatix is serves it purpose of making linux easy to configure, but learning how to do it all via commandline is always a good thing...07:51
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Ash-FoxI mean, I don't know how I managed this, but konqueror will forget all my bookmarks, KDE will forgot all my settings on logout (theming etc), even on fresh new user profiles. It's hilarious :P07:51
kuzmasterhalfbloodprince, well, you wont really learn much about the cli interface for apt-get, which can be extreamly usefull07:52
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kuzmasterhalfbloodprince, and sooner or later, you will depend on it07:52
halfbloodprinceone question: is automatix an application which one has to 'run' everytime i start kubuntu?07:52
Snakeno way07:52
mariano_halfbloodprince: no, you just install what you need, that's all07:53
Snakehalfbloodprince: after you install the apps  and codecs you want, you can remove it07:53
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halfbloodprinceSnake: alright.. so it's just a one time thing then07:53
Snakecorrect07:53
Snakehalfbloodprince: nothing on linux happens unless you want it to happen07:53
halfbloodprincecool.. so it's just those 3 commands that i need to use to install it07:54
halfbloodprince?07:54
SnakeApparently07:54
Snake:)07:54
halfbloodprinceah07:54
halfbloodprinceman, this gets easier and easier07:54
Snakegive it a year or so07:54
halfbloodprinceone more thing.. are there any 'skins' available for kubuntu?07:54
Snakeit gets betta07:54
Snakeabd betta :)07:54
Snakehalfbloodprince: TONS07:54
halfbloodprinceSnake: why do you say that?07:55
Snakehalfbloodprince: I'll be hitting my offical one year on linux mark in novemeber, and I <3 every moment on in this enviroment07:55
mariano_halfbloodprince: skins? go to www.kde-look.org07:55
Snakelittle things in windows bug the hell out of me now07:55
wdSnake: how do i find out my kubuntu version? i installed an old cd from last year but i updated/upgraded?07:55
halfbloodprinceSnake: alright... i'm glad i spoke to you, actually.. i was wondering about using kubuntu, since most of my work involves windows07:56
Snakewd: in your sources.list just change say if your on breezy, anywhere it says breezy, change it to dapper07:56
Healotlsb_release -a07:56
Snakewd: then apt-get dist-upgrade07:56
wdSnake: ok.07:56
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halfbloodprinceSnake: and how does one go about installing ttf fonts?07:56
Snakehalfbloodprince: example: I cant seperate the taskbar from the start menu. thats annoying to me07:57
Snake!tff07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
Jobber_wackypaste them into /usr/local/share/fonts07:57
SnakeI hate you ubotu07:57
kuzmasterZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1one07:57
kuzmasteri have 254mb of updates to download07:57
Healot!font07:57
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto07:57
Snakeah ha07:57
Snakethanks Healot07:57
Snakekuzmaster: same here lol07:57
halfbloodprinceThanks Healot07:57
Snakeshould have gotten 6.06.107:57
mariano_halfbloodprince: automatix has a 'package' with lots of ttf fonts07:58
halfbloodprinceKuzmaster: what's your connection speed07:58
kuzmaster512k07:58
Snakedown??07:58
kuzmasterSnake, did u just install?07:58
Snakeyeowch07:58
Snakekuzmaster: yulp07:58
kuzmasteryeah07:58
kuzmaster152/256k07:58
kuzmastersame07:58
Snakeim like 3mb/1.507:58
Snakelol07:58
wdSnake: how can i edit sources list from terminal.... adept wont let me edit.07:59
kuzmasterSnake, ;-(, i cant get adsl2 or higher07:59
mariano_Snake: and all for porn I guess :)07:59
Snakeand 64% updated07:59
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mariano_wd sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list07:59
Snakewd: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"07:59
halfbloodprincei'm on 64kbps07:59
Snakeor you can use vim07:59
DaSkreechSkinning under KDE is still a pain07:59
halfbloodprinceisn't that awesome07:59
Snakeas he said above07:59
Jobber_wackyeven cable is only 756k or so- around here08:00
halfbloodprinceDaSkreech, why do you say that08:00
Jobber_wackyI really need to move to a larger city08:00
SnakeDaSkreech: how do you figure?08:00
SnakeDaSkreech: try skinning gnome08:00
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kuzmasterim only 4% with my updates08:00
kuzmaster;-(08:00
DaSkreechWell they have a one button theme08:00
DaSkreechYou should be able to package a one button KDE08:00
mariano_DaSkreech: WTF is skinning?08:00
SnakeDaSkreech: so does kde dude08:00
DaSkreechwhere's that?08:01
mariano_DaSkreech: kde themes08:01
DaSkreechYeah yeah08:01
SnakeDaSkreech: kcontrol --> appearence --> theme manager08:01
mariano_DaSkreech: oops, sorry, perhaps you have to do 3 or four clicks...that's really hard08:01
Snakemariano_: you have to in gnome too...08:01
SnakeSystem --> Apperance --> System Theme08:02
Snakeor something like that08:02
mariano_Snake: it was a joke...08:02
SnakeI know08:02
halfbloodprinceSnake: I need some advice here.. I have a 40GB hard drive.. and I'll be dual booting.. I'll be installing windows in the first partition.. and saving my work-related files there.. and gnome in the other partition.. so hw much space do you recommend for each partition?08:02
Snakehalfbloodprince: 25 to windows and 15 to linux08:02
Jobber_wackyI'd go half and half08:03
Snakehalfbloodprince: windows apps are usually way bigger than linux08:03
halfbloodprince15 will be enough for linux?08:03
Snakehalf and half would work too, but I tend to give windows more space08:03
Jobber_wackyI do the opposite08:03
Snakehalfbloodprince: i have 12 g igs total on my lappy HDD and still have 6 gigs left to go08:03
Jobber_wackyWindows is on a 15GB partition08:03
Snakethats with install and a ton of apps08:03
Jobber_wackyI've abandoned windows pretty much08:04
mariano_bye...see you soon08:04
SnakeJobber_wacky: so after you install windows you have what, enough room for 3 programs and a mp3?08:04
Snake:-P08:04
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Jobber_wackyWindows only takes up less than 2GB08:04
DaSkreechJobber_wacky: For a week08:04
Snakejahhahaha08:04
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SnakeDaSkreech: +108:04
SnakeIts like 1,700 mb on install08:04
Snakeor something like that08:04
Jobber_wackyYeah, the 13GB rest is enough, it's not THAT crazy08:04
halfbloodprinceI'll do a 25+1508:05
Snakenope but vista will be08:05
Snakekekekek08:05
Jobber_wackyvista can go suck freeze dried lemons08:05
Snakeaw thats mean08:05
Snakewtf did I just do to my kubuntu08:05
Jobber_wackyI've tried the beta, horrible08:06
LinuxCartHello08:06
SnakeJobber_wacky: it runs like holy hell on my system08:06
halfbloodprinceokay.. this is unrelated to kubuntu.. but do any of you guys know any way i can forward all my emails in thunderbird to another web-based email account? some way to mass-forward them?08:06
Jobber_wackyand the release is being pushed forward to october, it will be horrible08:06
halfbloodprincehey LinuxCart08:06
LinuxCartany known plobem with cpufreqd and kubunutu dapper?08:06
Snakehalfbloodprince: not sure mang08:07
LinuxCartand solution (if possible)08:07
kuzmasteris there a way to inset special characters in kubuntu, like the ALT codes in windows?08:08
Snakekuzmaster: yea, that was a issue I had, you gotta mess with the kb settings in kcontrol08:08
kuzmasterhmmmmmmmmmmmm08:08
Jobber_wackyhold Ctrl+shift press keys08:08
Jobber_wackythen release08:08
SnakeFor real!?08:08
Jobber_wacky?08:08
Snakehmm08:08
Snakeno good here08:08
kuzmasterno08:08
kuzmasterdosnt work08:08
kuzmaster!skim08:09
Jobber_wackyyou may have to enable unicode? works here08:09
ubotuskim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 2640 kB08:09
LinuxCartI've just upgraded within kubuntu and cpufreqd failed loading08:09
Jobber_wacky?08:09
Jobber_wacky?08:09
halfbloodprincei just downloaded the kubuntu iso torrent08:09
Snakekuzmaster: 97% :-P08:09
SnakeGood race ;-)08:09
LinuxCarttried to load manually etc/init.d/cpufreqd restart and failed again08:09
halfbloodprinceSnake: I just need the iso file, right? Nothing tlse?08:10
halfbloodprinceelse*08:10
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Snakehalfbloodprince: correct, then you just burn the iso like you would you windows disk08:10
Snakeerrr08:10
halfbloodprinceyeah, got it08:10
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halfbloodprincenow it'll take me like a week to download the entire iso file08:11
Jobber_wackyah, not the same codes from windows just so you know08:11
Snakelol08:11
halfbloodprincenot funny, man :P i have a 64kbps connection08:11
Jobber_wackycould be worse08:11
Snakehalfbloodprince: should I ship you my kubuntu disk?08:11
Snake:)08:11
kuzmastersnake, how long have you been using your current installation of kubuntu for?08:12
Jobber_wackyand it wont take a week just a day or two08:12
halfbloodprinceSnake: where do you live?08:12
Snakekuzmaster: I just now installed it man08:12
kuzmasteroh08:12
Snakehalfbloodprince: ohio08:12
halfbloodprinceJobber_wacky: I use a 64kbps connection08:12
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kuzmasterhmmm, anyone here had it for........ over a month?08:12
halfbloodprinceSnake: I'm in another country altogether08:12
Snakekuzmaster: ive used kubuntu for longer than that..08:12
Snakeif thats what you mean08:12
Jobber_wackyhalfbloodprince, a week would be dialup08:12
halfbloodprinceI'll get the official Kubuntu shipit cd before I get yours08:12
Snakeheeh08:12
halfbloodprince:)08:12
kuzmasterSnake, no, and so have i08:13
Snakehalfbloodprince: mine would get stopped at customs08:13
LinuxCartif this is not the right place could you tell me where to ask08:13
Snakecuz its a b0mb!!08:13
LinuxCartis there a kubuntu-laptop or the like?08:13
kuzmasteri just want to know approx how much kubuntu uses up08:13
halfbloodprinceJobber_wacky: Maybe not a week per se.. but like at least 3 days08:13
kuzmasterhow much hard disk space08:13
Snakekuzmaster: not to much, its like 2gb on install08:13
Jobber_wackyI'd say 2 days of non-stop load08:13
Snakekuzmaster: then it doesnt use much more after that unless you install more apps08:13
DaSkreechcan some media player run mp4?08:13
DaSkreechthe H.264 one08:14
SnakeDaSkreech: perhaps vlc?08:14
Jobber_wackyjust remember to use kget or some such08:14
halfbloodprinceis opera on linux better than firefox  on linux?08:14
Jobber_wackyhalfbloodprince, no08:14
DaSkreechSnake: Some other one?08:14
Snakena08:14
SnakeDaSkreech: mplayer?08:14
Snakelol08:14
kuzmasterDaSkreech, i would STRONGLY advise you to install vlc media player08:14
Healotopera can't be any better than mozilla-alike :)08:14
DaSkreechDoesn't seem to08:14
kuzmasterDaSkreech, it will play almost all codecs/file types, with out add-ons08:15
kuzmasterDaSkreech, i LOVE IT08:15
Snakevlc is godly08:15
SnakeVLC and Amarok make a nasty team08:15
kuzmasteri use vlc on windows, linux and mac08:15
kuzmasterits the BEST!!!!!!!!!! w00t08:15
kuzmasterlol08:15
Snakei use it on windows, but just for things wmp wont play08:15
Jobber_wackywhat's special?08:15
halfbloodprincevlc is available for linux too?08:15
halfbloodprincewtf!08:15
DaSkreechI wish that Songbir would use it :-(08:15
halfbloodprincevlc is god!08:15
Snakehalfbloodprince: its avalible for everything08:15
kuzmasterhalfbloodprince, its even available for windows CE08:16
kuzmasterhalfbloodprince, its an open source project, you can download to source yourselft and complie it on any system08:16
halfbloodprinceman, are you sure kooka works fine for scanning stuff?08:16
halfbloodprincei feel weird using anything called kooka08:17
Snakelol08:17
SnakeIve never used it08:17
Snakebut it comes with it :)08:17
DaSkreechThe use the VLC libs on all platforms but linux :-(08:17
Snakehalfbloodprince: what do you prefer? Kooka or XSane? (Xsane is what comes with gnome)08:17
halfbloodprinceXSane sounds cooler08:17
Snakethen rename kooka08:17
Snake:-P08:17
DaSkreechargh The SongBird App uses VLC Libs even08:18
Snakesongbird is kewl08:18
halfbloodprincewhy do all these linux software sites have such huge fonts :p08:18
Snakebit unstable though08:18
Snakehalfbloodprince: they wanna be macintized!!08:18
halfbloodprince??08:18
Snakeits a joke08:18
Snake!latestkde08:18
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php08:18
halfbloodprincei got that it was a joke :p i just didnt get the joke08:19
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Snake...bah never mind08:19
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Snakeman the new automatix team is great08:20
LinuxCartI have a laptop, how should I use the cpu scaling? which is the best application?08:20
Snakeim diggin what theyve done to this thign08:20
halfbloodprinceSnake: I'm hoping the installation is simple.. i managed to fuck up the suse thing pretty badly08:20
Snakehalfbloodprince: its easier than suse ;)08:20
SnakeI promise08:20
Snakejust read  what it says and youll be fine08:20
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halfbloodprinceI was fine till it got to the partitioning part.. and the partitioning was so confusing, that i delted windows altogether08:20
Snakehalfbloodprince: and if you have any problems just click the kmenu --> Internet --> Konversation and itll link you right into here08:20
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halfbloodprincethen i reinstalled windows and asked people on suse irc for help, and they were rude08:21
halfbloodprincehahaha08:21
DaSkreech!language08:21
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:21
halfbloodprincewas really bad08:21
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halfbloodprincesorry ubotu08:21
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SnakeHey guys08:21
Snakehow well do you think xgl will run under wine08:22
Snake>: )08:22
Snakeerr08:22
Snakenot wine08:22
Snakevmware08:22
halfbloodprincewhat exactly is xubuntu08:22
Darius[TEA] Snake: really really badly08:22
Snakeubuntu with xfce instead of KDE or Gnome08:22
Ash-Foxa buntu distro that uses xfce4 by default08:22
halfbloodprinceah okay08:22
halfbloodprincegot it08:22
kuzmasterhalfbloodprince, its for lower end systems08:22
kuzmasterhalfbloodprince, i used  to and im going to use it as a server08:23
halfbloodprincekuzmaster: okay..08:23
halfbloodprinceman kubuntu has an inbuilt font installer08:23
halfbloodprincehow cool is that!08:23
Darius[TEA] Snake: if at all, since the vmware x server doesn't do opengl AFAIK08:23
SnakeDarius[TEA] : I was half kididng :)08:24
Snakeenjoying your tea?08:24
Snake:-P08:24
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halfbloodprinceSnake: does Kubuntu have any cool transparent-effect things08:24
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Snakehalfbloodprince: Havnt tested, but XGL does08:25
Snakeand damnnn is XGL goooddddd08:25
Ash-Fox!xgl08:25
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:25
Snakebut native KDE, dunno08:25
Ash-Foxnative kde uses cheap hacks to get around transparencies on x.org08:25
Ash-FoxBasically it just copies your background picture, and places in the application background08:26
Darius[TEA] Ash-Fox: no it doesn't08:26
Darius[TEA] Ash-Fox: it uses the composite extension08:26
Ash-FoxYou won't see any other windows under those.08:26
halfbloodprincedo you need external video cards for XGL?08:26
SnakeIm not sure the min requirement08:26
Darius[TEA] Ash-Fox: I do :)08:26
SnakeI run mine on a ATI 925008:26
Darius[TEA] I suspect you just need a card that supports DRI for XGL08:27
Ash-FoxYeah, and I suggest you do not try running it on a radeon mobility, I've only had bad luck with those.08:27
Ash-Fox(Strange artifacts getting left behind mostly)08:27
Snakeso steady as she goes!!08:28
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halfbloodprinceSnake: love that song!08:28
Darius[TEA] well compsite extension support is pretty new08:28
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halfbloodprincewhat's the difference between Adept and Synapti08:28
halfbloodprinceSynaptic08:28
Ash-FoxNot even x.org's backing store option helps with those artifacts.08:28
Snakefrontends08:28
Darius[TEA] halfbloodprince: they're both front ends for pkg08:28
Darius[TEA] dpkg08:28
Snakehalfbloodprince: layouts pretty much08:28
Darius[TEA] adept is for kde, synaptic is for gnome08:29
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Darius[TEA] well qt & gtk08:29
Snakeand that08:29
Snake:)08:29
link_36pDoes anyone know how i can get OpenGL 1.3?08:29
halfbloodprincecool08:29
Ash-Foxadept is a QT app or kde app?08:29
Snakeadept is QR08:29
SnakeQT*08:29
Snakewhich is what kde is written in08:29
Snakeso itll start up faster in a KDE enviroment than a gnome08:29
Darius[TEA] pretty marginal though08:29
Snakecorrect08:29
link_36pHey anyone know if my openGL should be 1.3?08:30
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Snakekonq is so tightly integrated, one of my fav things about kde08:30
Snake:)08:30
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Snakeyea knoq needs firefox extension support08:31
Snake:)08:31
Snakeevery browser should have firefox extension support08:31
Ash-FoxIt has extension support, but meh, supporting xul extensions. That's really pulling your underwear over your head in my opinion :/08:32
SnakeI know it does but no true firefox extension would work in it08:32
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Snakesay deepest sender08:32
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Ash-FoxFirefox was supposed to have a QT version a few years ago.08:33
Snakethat'll be the day08:33
halfbloodprincei havent heard too many good things about gnome08:33
SnakeI like gnome08:34
Snakeit seems much more stable than KDE, but its constraining08:34
halfbloodprincei dont like konqueror as a browser.. it's nice as a file manager08:34
Ash-FoxThere are some decent things in gnome, but for the most part. I find the fact I can't turn off those blasted animations annoying.08:34
Mezanyone here have a fresh install of kubuntu ?08:34
SnakeMez: i just installed mine08:34
Snakewhats up?08:34
Ash-FoxNothing angers me more than stupid UI animations. I don't want to see flying boxes attack my tray when I hit minimize08:34
Snakelol08:35
MezSnake: when you launch konversation: what servers do you see in the server list ?08:35
SnakeMez: just freenodes08:35
Snakeirc.freenode.net08:35
halfbloodprinceSnake: you completed your installation?08:36
Snakehalfbloodprince: yea I been on here for a while now ;)08:36
Snakei'm just installing codecs and stuff now08:36
halfbloodprinceokay..08:36
Snakewatching as fonts fly past my face08:36
halfbloodprinceCan you visit a website for me, and show me a screenshot?08:36
Snakesure08:36
Snakewhat site?08:36
halfbloodprinceif it's not too much to ask08:36
halfbloodprincewww.split-magazine.com08:37
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Snakehalfbloodprince: uploading08:38
Snakehalfbloodprince: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1736/snapshot1is1.png08:38
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halfbloodprincefirefox :p08:39
Snakerawr2u08:39
Snakehalfbloodprince: i dont have firefox yet, automatix is doin its thing08:39
Snakewhen its done ill grab it08:39
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halfbloodprincethats okay08:39
halfbloodprincedamn, my site looks good even in konqueror :p08:39
Snakehehe08:40
halfbloodprincewhat do you think of it?08:40
halfbloodprinceit's running on wordpress08:40
Snakeits nice08:40
halfbloodprincethanks08:41
Snakehalfbloodprince: typo08:41
SnakeSystem of a Down: Mesmerize08:41
halfbloodprincewhat's the typo08:41
Snakeisnt it mezmerize?08:41
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halfbloodprincein UK english it's spelled as mesmerise08:41
Snakeah08:42
plugsthat doesnt matter. it's how the band spellsit08:42
SnakeI hold the US release in my hand and its spelled with a z08:42
halfbloodprinceokay..08:42
Snakehehe08:42
Snakehalfbloodprince: as I said, stupid little things annoy me08:42
plugsthought i'd throw that out there =] 08:42
Snake:-P08:42
halfbloodprincethanks08:42
LinuxCartdoes klaptopdaemon work?08:43
halfbloodprinceumm the title says mesmerize, right08:43
Darius[TEA] LinuxCart: yes!08:43
Snakehavnt tried it08:43
LinuxCartor should i use kpowersave08:43
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Snakehalfbloodprince: on my album it says "System of a Down - Mezmerize"08:43
halfbloodprincewith a Z08:43
halfbloodprinceNo on the site08:43
halfbloodprinceI'm looking at it08:43
Snakeah08:43
halfbloodprinceIt's Mesmerize08:43
halfbloodprincewith a Z08:44
halfbloodprincenot Mesmerise08:44
LinuxCartDarius[TEA] : problem is that klaptopdaemon forces you to install cpufreqd and this latter doesn't start08:44
halfbloodprincewhere exactly did u see the typo08:44
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LinuxCartI'm trying to get more info everywhere and no success till now08:44
Darius[TEA] ah well TBH the only time I used it was on FreeBSD and that works, I run kubuntu inside vmware :)08:44
Snakehalfbloodprince: on your website it reads "Mesmerize" first s is incorrect, it should also be a "z"08:44
SnakeMeZmerize08:45
Darius[TEA] LinuxCart: maybe you need a kernel module loaded for cpufreqd?08:45
LinuxCartwell it works in my debian, but not on my sister's kubunut08:45
LinuxCartDarius[TEA] : I loaded all the cpufreq_xxx08:45
LinuxCartand didn't start08:45
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LinuxCartthe worst thing is that I don't have an error message08:46
LinuxCartjust fails08:46
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Healot08:46
halfbloodprinceaaahhh08:47
Snake!latestkde08:47
ubotuThe latest version of KDE is 3.5.4, and Kubuntu packages are available at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php08:47
halfbloodprincewell, i'm not going to change that :p08:47
kuzmasterhmmmmmmmmmmph08:47
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Snakehalfbloodprince: whys that?? Its the offical album name..08:47
SnakeYour losin out on google hits08:47
Snake:-P08:47
kuzmasterthe updates are only 65% compleate08:47
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halfbloodprinceSnake: In Kubuntu, I can change that default sans-serif font to whatever I want, right?08:50
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Snakehalfbloodprince: yulp08:51
halfbloodprinceSnake: How do I do that08:51
Snakehalfbloodprince: I assume you mean the default system font?08:51
Snakehalfbloodprince: its in your kcontrol08:51
halfbloodprinceYeah, default system font08:51
halfbloodprinceI want to change it to Lucida Grande08:51
kuzmasterofftopic, but does anyone here own a netgear mp101 wireless music streamer?08:51
halfbloodprinceokay, cool08:51
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halfbloodprinceI like the amarok website, it uses nice small fonts :p08:52
Snakehehe08:52
halfbloodprincei love the logo too08:52
Snakegood god08:53
Snake10 mins to update kde08:53
Snakeugh08:53
SnakeI feel like im on gentoo08:53
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kuzmasterSnake, well its gonna take me well over 3 hours to do the whole update thing for kubuntu08:53
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Snakekuzmaster: it took me about a hour and a half for that08:54
Snakeheh08:54
kuzmasterits still goin, its on 71% now08:54
halfbloodprincegood thing i'm getting 6.06.108:54
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kuzmaster!getright08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about getright - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
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halfbloodprinceSnake: thanks for the link08:57
Snakehalfbloodprince: np08:57
halfbloodprincei cant PM08:57
halfbloodprincecoz i've forgotten my password08:57
Snakewhys that??08:57
Snakehmm you shoudl be  able to08:57
SnakeI thought I set my account to be open08:57
halfbloodprinceoh i just assumed i couldn;t08:58
halfbloodprince:[08:58
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alessandrohallo09:00
Snakewelcome09:01
alessandrowhere I can find mozilla backup for ubuntu09:01
Ayabarawhat app do you use for simple retouching of photos?09:01
SnakeAyabara: krita and the gimp are both very good programs09:02
alessandrogimp09:02
alessandrosorry09:02
Ayabaraalessandro, Snake : I tried gimp, but it just seemed a little too much for me. I'm looking for something like picasa and adobe photoshop elements under xp09:03
Snakehmmmm09:03
halfbloodprinceAyabara: try GimpShop09:03
halfbloodprinceIt's basically gimp with the almost-exact interface of Photoshop09:04
Ayabarahalfbloodprince, found the website some nanoseconds before your tip :-) thanks09:04
halfbloodprince|gimpshop09:04
halfbloodprincehehe cool09:04
halfbloodprincehow is this search thing supposed to work09:05
alessandrosorry, I'm looking for mozilla backup. What do you know?09:05
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Ayabarais anyone using digikam?09:12
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Otismorning all09:12
Ayabaragood morning, Otis09:13
Otiswhy do I only receive one frame from a remote webcam before Kopete says I've lost the camera connection ?09:13
Otisnote : I *do* receive one full frame before the loss09:14
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Otis99.9% of forum posts are about h/w support and sending webcam .... my problem is with receiving webcam09:14
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Ash-FoxWhat's the problem with viewing webcams, Otis?09:16
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kuzmastergetting there09:16
kuzmaster only 5% left09:16
kuzmaster4%09:17
kuzmaster3%09:17
halfbloodprinceyay!09:17
kuzmaster3% now09:18
halfbloodprinceget a move on already :p09:18
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kuzmasterohhhh only 2% left, of downloading09:19
kuzmasterlike, it only took me like 15 mins to download studio8 demo09:20
kuzmasterohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh getting closer, only 1$ left09:21
kuzmaster!ksvg09:21
ubotuksvg: SVG viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1149 kB, installed size 4028 kB09:21
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kuzmaster!svg09:21
ubotusvg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon1409:21
kuzmasterohhh cool09:22
OtisAsh-Fox: sorry, baby son interrupted for a few minutes :-) ....09:22
kuzmasterw00tage, now the updates are installing09:22
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OtisAsh-Fox: someone is sending me their webcam from a MSN client ....09:22
halfbloodprincekuzmaster: cool09:22
OtisAsh-Fox: I see *one* frame from their webcam ....09:22
OtisAsh-Fox: and then my client says "the sender has stopped their webcam" ...09:22
Ash-FoxOtis, install the Kopete from here: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/09:23
KDEfanboywhat's the apt line for official security updates repository?09:23
OtisAsh-Fox: while the sender sees "the receiver has stopped viewing your camera"09:23
OtisAsh-Fox: an update then ? I'll be giving that a shot09:23
Ash-FoxOtis, yes, it's quite the update :)09:23
Ash-FoxI forget what version kubuntu ships with, but it's quite old09:23
OtisAsh-Fox: er, is that official or what ?09:23
Otisah, it's under kubuntu.org09:24
Otisok, thanks a lot09:24
Ash-FoxIt's made by someone that works on kubuntu, but it's not in the repositories, because of ubuntu's philosophy of keeping stable versions of stuff during releases09:25
fishfilletgyache-improved works great on my kubuntu :)09:25
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jarferbuenos dias, perdonarme hay algun canal en espaol? es que soy nuevo en linux09:26
Ash-Fox!es09:26
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:26
jarfermuchas gracias09:27
OtisAsh-Fox: ok, sounds great, thanks again !09:27
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OtisAsh-Fox: you have any pointers to a discussion on my specific topic ?09:27
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Ash-FoxOtis, well, the fact that msn webcams work for me with that version of kopete... Just try updating :)09:27
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OtisAsh-Fox: ok, brilliant, cheers !09:29
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AyabaraI used ubuntu earlier, and just before dapper came out someone added a fix to the kernel that made the media keys on my Dell Inspiron 6000 work without tweaking any config files. I want that fix in kubuntu too, though I don't remember what it was... :-/09:29
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Ash-FoxOtis, oh, if you need help installing it, just do 'sudo dpkg -i kopete-package.deb' (replace the .deb with the one you downloaded, if you're using a PC, you'll want the one that has the 386/586/686 in the filename)09:30
kuzmasteroff topic, but dose anyone here own a netgear mp101 wireless music streamer?09:31
kuzmasteranyone. yes..... no.....09:32
Ash-Foxno.09:32
alexiconno :P09:33
kuzmasterhmmmm09:33
kuzmastertheres supposed to be some alternative server software for it09:33
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kuzmasterand i wanted to look at it09:33
kuzmasteraw well09:33
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kuzmasterwat is that program called that puts extra programs into the kmenu?09:35
halfbloodprincekextra09:37
halfbloodprincekidding :\09:37
kuzmasterwell i thought it was kapps, but it wasnt09:38
kuzmasternow, im downloading/installing gaim via adept, its stuck on "Waiting for headers 0%'09:38
kuzmasterand help?09:38
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xanax`hello09:42
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mattikooHave kubuntu some package what analyzes hardware problems?09:43
mattikooOr find it09:44
kuzmasterim downloading/installing gaim via adept, its stuck on "Waiting for headers 0%'09:44
kuzmasterand help?09:44
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kuzmasterplease?09:44
Otisdoink09:45
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bc_hi09:47
bc_how can i upgrade t o kde 3.5.4 for dapper09:48
bc_anybody09:49
bc_help pls09:49
Otis"system upgrade" ? in the systems folder ?09:51
Otisbc_: not entirely sure, I'm booted up in Windows here ;-)09:51
OtisPLEASE DON'T HURT ME09:51
bc_what09:51
bc_this rooms is so quiet09:52
OtisK menu -> system -> system upgrade (I'm typing from memory, you'll have to go and look for yourself)09:52
xanax`it's early in Europe bc_09:52
xanax`and I guess USA is still sleeping09:52
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Otisand it's saturday morning09:53
Otisand people have hangovers09:54
Otis(when they will wake up)09:54
bc_hahah09:54
bc_sorry,09:54
bc_i don't know09:55
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bc_so anyone can give repository link for uograde kde09:56
bc_upgrade09:56
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bc_hello09:57
bc_wht ever09:58
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xanax`bc :09:58
xanax`deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main09:58
llxcamxlli added a unofficial repository and now i can't open adept09:59
llxcamxlli need some help09:59
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niceman2kubuntu sucks09:59
bc_xanax, thx09:59
bc_hey niceman209:59
niceman2sup09:59
niceman2i use windows xp its better10:00
bc_u have been ban at ubuntu forum10:00
xanax`lol10:00
bc_now u here10:00
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llxcamxllno friends10:00
bc_yeah cause u're stupid10:00
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niceman2u know what10:00
niceman2fuck u10:00
niceman2i don't need friends10:00
bc_hah10:00
niceman2i am a hacker10:00
llxcamxlllol10:00
ymlhello10:00
llxcamxllhacker10:00
bc_yeah210:00
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niceman2yes i download warez and stuff10:01
llxcamxlllol10:01
llxcamxlllimewire10:01
niceman2leet hacker stuff10:01
niceman2naa you can't get anything off limewiere10:01
niceman2torrents are the best10:01
niceman2and xdcc botz10:01
ymlI am trying to get an environment to do some C programming on my Kubuntu box10:01
llxcamxllwild10:01
llxcamxllso like why you in here??10:02
niceman2i heard there was good warez here10:02
bc_a guy like u, should be dead10:02
llxcamxllxp blows hardcore10:02
ymlI try to compile a simple gcc hello.c10:02
llxcamxllcan anyone help me10:02
llxcamxllanyone10:02
bc_are billgate son? niceman210:03
niceman2i can compile a hello.c on my visaull c++ easy10:03
ymlllxcamxll> what is the problem10:03
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ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak10:04
halfbloodprincespam attack10:04
niceman28=================================================================================D10:04
bc_just ban this guy10:04
niceman2i was klined before10:04
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niceman2i always come back10:04
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heinkel_111niceman2 .... you are so ignored :P10:04
Snake[Sleep] ty fdoving10:04
llxcamxllso can you help me yml10:05
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fdovingyou're welcome.10:05
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ymlhow did you add the depot10:05
yml?10:05
Snake[Sleep] fdoving: perhaps make that ban a bit less vauge though10:05
Snake[Sleep] fdoving: you just blocked out a lot of adelphia10:05
llxcamxllin adept, just added it in the manage repository bit10:05
Snake[Sleep] :-P10:05
Snake[Sleep] anyway I gotta get to bed10:06
Snake[Sleep] night all10:06
ymlwhen I compile my hello.c I get this error message: hello.c:1:20: error:  stdio.h: No such file or directory10:06
fdovingSnake[Sleep] : no, i didn't, just the ones with none as username/ident.10:06
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llxcamxllso like can anyone help????10:07
ymlllxcamxll> could you post sources.list on pastebin10:07
bc_llxcamxll: try to edit your source.list10:08
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bc_just make all setting default10:08
llxcamxllsorry guys but i'm new to this so like could you tell me what to do10:08
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llxcamxllin dumb terminology10:08
bc_/etc/apt/sources.list10:09
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Otisllxcamxll: I would if I could but that fool spammer kinda confused things for a bit10:09
Otiscare to repeat ?10:09
ymlalso I have a file called /usr/include/stdio.h10:09
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llxcamxlltheres nothing in the sources list file10:10
ymlbut for some reasons gcc does not find it?10:10
Otisyml: what's your command line ? cc something ?10:10
ymlgcc hello.c10:10
Otisyml: because you're going to have to either 1) specify the include path on that command line or 2) create an environment variable indicating where includes are10:10
bc_llxcamxll: just make all setting default10:10
xanax`bc : you saw my private message ?10:11
OtisI suggest doing a man gcc and looking for the options in what is displayed. I think -i lets you specify a list of  include directories10:11
ymlOtis> I acould you please let me know How I can specify the include path?10:11
ymlor should I read the man?10:11
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llxcamxllwhere do i do that??10:13
llxcamxllThe APT Database could not be opened!10:13
llxcamxllThis may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem10:13
llxcamxllTry running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.10:13
llxcamxlli ran apt-setup but i got nothing10:13
Otisyml: I'm not booted in Linux right now so you're just going to have to do man gcc and read10:13
Otis"man gcc" is a command10:13
halfbloodprinceKDE vs GNOME10:13
Otisthey're BOTH GOOD !!10:14
llxcamxllthis is fucked10:14
Otisnow shoo10:14
halfbloodprincehahaha10:14
llxcamxllwhy the fuck won't adept run10:14
bc_llxcamxll : try to edit your sources.list10:14
bc_llxcamxll : sudo vi /etc/apt/souces.list10:14
Otisllxcamxll: you say "won't run" ... does it not start at all ?10:14
Otisllxcamxll: surely it's giving you some output saying what's wrong, no ?10:15
ymlllxcamxll>could you post your sources.list on http://paste.e-scribe.com10:15
llxcamxllsorry10:16
llxcamxllphone call10:16
llxcamxllyeah won't start10:16
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bc_just do it what yml says10:16
llxcamxllThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.10:16
llxcamxll Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.10:17
Otisllxcamxll: that's because you still have the sources.list file open in vi10:17
Otisclose vi10:17
llxcamxllwhat is vi10:17
xanax`a text editor10:17
Otisvi is the editor10:17
llxcamxlli only put this on here yesterday so i know nothing] 10:17
bc_use console10:17
Otiswhen you did "sudo vi [etc] " ... you opened the editor10:17
Otisllxcamxll: close vi10:17
llxcamxllthere is no VI open10:19
llxcamxlllike what the fuck10:19
llxcamxllthere is no file in the sources list folder10:19
Otisyou did "sudo vi /etc/apt/souces.list", right ?10:19
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llxcamxllno10:19
Otisah ok10:19
llxcamxlli only got this yesterday10:19
OtisI thought you had ... you'd pasted that line further up10:20
voicuthe message says that the database cannot be opened.. that's not /etc/apt/sources.list10:20
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Otisvoicu: ah, you're right10:20
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Otisllxcamxll: have you (by any chance) got another session of Adept or Synaptic open ?10:20
llxcamxllit stopped working as soon as i added this unofficial repository10:20
llxcamxllno10:20
voicullxcamxll: you should reinstall apt10:20
ymlOtis> I tried this :gcc -I/usr/include/  hello.c => gcc is still not finding stdio10:20
Otisllxcamxll: or did you do an apt-get in a terminal that hasn't finished ?10:20
llxcamxllnope10:21
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Otisllxcamxll: hm, I've run out of ideas here .... no great expert myself, sorry10:21
llxcamxllthanks anyway10:21
ymlllxcamxll> try to close everything on your desktop10:21
llxcamxllthis is the only thing open on my desktop10:22
ymlto make sure you do not have an application locking apt10:22
ymlwhat is this?10:22
voicuthat's not going to work, if another program like adept is running apt would that dpkg is locked by another program10:22
voicuit won't give an error about the database10:22
Otisyml: you need -L/user/include10:22
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Otiswhoops, I meant -L/usr/include10:23
llxcamxllmay aswell put windows on here10:23
Otisllxcamxll: yes, you should10:23
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llxcamxlllol10:23
Otisyml: all Linux commands are case-sensitive10:23
ymlgcc -L /usr/include/  hello.c this give the same error message10:23
llxcamxlltrying to expand my horizons10:23
jackleMoring everyone10:23
abattoirllxcamxll: you get the database locked error?10:24
Otisyml: ah fuck, I'm getting confused .... you had it right -I capital i, right ? damn10:24
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llxcamxlli'll paste the error abbattoir10:24
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Otisllxcamxll: yes but I think you're trying to skip a few steps before you can appreciate Linux10:24
ymlOtis > no problem10:24
llxcamxllThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.10:24
Otisllxcamxll: try and enjoy the experience you get from using official releases and using GUI tools for as much as possible10:24
jackleI have an lvm problem.. my lvm doesnt want to mount .. can anyone maybe help?10:24
abattoirllxcamxll: and you ran both those commands?10:25
ymlcould you open sources.list with a text editor?10:25
Otisllxcamxll: do like the message says ... open a terminal and run "apt-get update"10:25
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bc_llxcamxll: have u check u'r sources.list10:25
ymland copy paste its content in a pastebin10:25
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llxcamxllkk10:25
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voicuit's not because of sources.list...10:25
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abattoirllxcamxll: 'sudo apt-get update'10:26
bc_there is some thing wrong in soures.list i guess10:26
llxcamxllType 'http://debian.video.free.fr/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list10:26
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fdovingllxcamxll: missing 'deb' in front of the url.10:26
halfbloodprincethis is a random question: but does kubuntu freeze up a lot? (i heard this rumour)10:26
abattoirllxcamxll: ok, you tried to add a repository, and it didnt go well10:26
fdovinghalfbloodprince: i haven't experienced that once.. yet.10:26
llxcamxllyep10:27
Markihello, my synaptic won't update anything anymore saying: "could not connect to localhost 127.0.0.1"10:27
llxcamxllhow do i undo my mistake10:27
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fdovingMarki: check proxy settings.10:27
abattoirllxcamxll: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'10:27
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abattoirllxcamxll: that command will open that file in a text editor10:27
halfbloodprincefdoving: thanks10:28
llxcamxllk10:28
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abattoirllxcamxll: prefix the 'http://debian.video.free.fr..' line with 'deb'10:28
abattoirllxcamxll: or you can regenerate your sources.list10:28
abattoirllxcamxll: why did you add that repository? if i may ask?10:29
Markinormally i have no proxies i alredady did : "unset http_proxy" the graphical synaptic does not work either10:29
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Markion a forum some guy had the same problem and he said this: "10:29
MarkiI at least fix part of my problem by using the command10:29
Markiunset http_proxy10:29
Markiit seems I had a proxy setup that I did not know about10:29
MarkiThis fix programs executed from the command line but when I try to use a program like synaptic it still doesn't work10:29
tonio_imbrandon: that's what I thought :)10:29
llxcamxlldunno10:29
llxcamxllforgotten10:29
Markimy problem is that i don't know the commands i have to use on the command line to update :S10:30
tonio_the patch doesn't work since kds already overwrites the cpp file settings10:30
abattoirllxcamxll: well, it is generally not recommended to add third party repositories...10:30
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tonio_imbrandon: I'm fixing kds and removing Mez patch, since it is not of any use afaik ;)10:30
llxcamxllahh ok10:30
abattoir!source-o-matic10:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:30
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abattoirllxcamxll: you can either do what i said initially(about prefixing 'deb ' in that line) or regenerate your file^^^^10:31
llxcamxllthanks guys, we have lift off10:31
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llxcamxllappreciate the help10:31
llxcamxllno windows xp for me10:31
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halfbloodprince||xcamx|| : no windows xp at all?10:31
jackleAnyone... plz plz plz10:32
abattoirjackle: what's your question?10:32
llxcamxllwell like i had xp on here but my cousin fucked around with system32 files10:32
jackleabattoir: I count mount my lvm (it cant determine the filesystem type)10:32
llxcamxllso i had no format disc and like i wanted to use my laptop so i just installed kubuntu on here10:32
jackle*cant10:32
calcmandanHello awesome people10:33
abattoir!lvm10:33
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO10:33
abattoirjackle: see if that helps you^^^^10:33
abattoirjackle: see if that helps you^^^^10:33
halfbloodprincexcam, so u dont need xp at all?10:33
jackleabattoir: I did.10:33
llxcamxllnope10:33
halfbloodprincewhat do you use your comp for?10:34
llxcamxlli got it on my desktop pc10:34
llxcamxlli only use this for movies and music and shite10:34
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llxcamxllmultimedia style10:34
llxcamxlland like i was bored so i downloaded this and installed it10:35
jackleabattoir: Is there a way that I can maybe "convert" a lvm partition (it is already in ext3 format) to a plain ext3 partition.. eg: /dev/sda1 is lvm .. not /dev/sda1 become ext3 not lvm thus I can maybe resque the data?10:35
llxcamxlldoes anyone have the patience to explain compiling source code10:36
Linux_Galorejust tried installing Kubuntu 6.10 node II on a toshiba 2450 and it hung when it tried to load the desktop, Kubuntu 6.06 works fine10:36
Linux_Galoretoshiba 2450 laptop that is10:37
Linux_Galoreor replace Kernel Panic with . system has suffered a "God moment" please reboot10:37
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Linux_Galoreoops wrong screen10:38
Markihow do i do this:10:40
MarkiI figured out my problem. I didn't format my home partition and it kept all my setting from before the upgrade and something in there was conflicting with the upgraded version. I simply created a new user, logged in with them and copied its settings over to my old user10:40
jackleabattoir: ?10:40
abattoirjackle: ???10:41
voicullxcamxll: if you want to compile a program then you usually have to run ./configure, make, and sudo make install. if there are dependency problems, ./configure should tell you. but the thing is once you installed a program like that it's hard to uninstall it. you should always use packeges (preferably from repositories)10:41
abattoirjackle: connection got timed out, so didnt say any messages(if you had typed any)10:41
jackleabattoir: Is there a way that I can maybe "convert" a lvm partition (it is already in ext3 format) to a plain ext3 partition.. eg: /dev/sda1 is lvm .. not /dev/sda1 become ext3 not lvm thus I can maybe resque the data?10:41
voicullxcamxll, you have to run those commands inside the source directory10:42
voicuthat you downloaded from the internet10:42
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abattoirjackle: http://predisposition.com/stuff/archives/35-lvm-in-rescue-mode.html might help?10:44
halfbloodprinceis mepis any good?10:44
Linux_Galoreyeah its ok, very slow though10:45
jackleabattoir: I cant. I e2fsck throws errors (cant locate the superblock)10:45
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abattoirjackle: i'm not sure... i cant search for you if you want..10:46
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Netcadhow to configure vhost based named dir?10:46
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jackleabattoir: I tried searching.. but either I 'm searching incorrectly or it doesnt exists. Can I somehow resque the superblock?10:47
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abattoirjackle: and tune2fs doesnt help?10:50
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ymlI would like to know what I should installed or configure to get gcc compiling a simple hello.c10:52
hunterhi10:52
jackleabattoir: I'll quickly check it out. Some people on the web also says one can make mkfs to only write superblock info?10:52
hunteryml: gcc hello.c ?10:52
abattoirjackle: i'm not sure... and you cant get any help at #LVM ?10:53
jackleabattoir: I am also there.. but nobody wants to talk10:53
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ymlWhen I try to do so I get the following error message:hello.c:1:20: error:  stdio.h: No such file or directory10:53
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ymlhunter> This is what I am doing but gcc does not find stdio.h10:54
hunterhow do you include stdio.h? install libc6-dev10:54
ymlhunter> It is installed10:54
hunteryml: do you use "" or <> to include it?10:54
halfbloodprinceumm, i have a quick partitioning question10:55
ymlhunter> I am going to paste my code somewhere 3 lines10:55
hunteryml: ok, use query :-)10:56
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hunteroh, private queries with unregistered nicks are not allowed... argl10:56
halfbloodprinceanyone?10:57
hunteryml: you can use http://rafb.net/paste/ to put your 3 lines online10:57
yml<hunter>http://paste.e-scribe.com/1484/10:58
hunteryml: remove the whitespace between the < and the stdiou.h10:59
hunter-u10:59
halfbloodprinceok, say i reformat my hard drive, and re-install windows,  creating a 25gb partition for it. now, say i leave the rest of it unpartitioned, how will the kubuntu installer detect it, and how do i tell it to install kubuntu in the unpartitioned space10:59
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FoxHunterah, now back with a registered nick :-)11:02
ymlhunter> Thank you for your help11:03
FoxHunteryml: you're welcome :-)11:04
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FoxHunterbye11:05
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krautmoin11:08
halfbloodprincecan anyone help me out with my partitioning problem?11:09
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halfbloodprinceno one? damn11:12
alexiconhrm anyone have their amarok working with last.fm radio?11:12
alexiconwhat is your partitioning problem?11:13
halfbloodprincesay i reformat my hard drive, and re-install windows, creating a 25gb partition for it. now, say i leave the rest of it unpartitioned, how will the kubuntu installer detect it, and how do i tell it to install kubuntu in the unpartitioned space11:13
Chousuke I think the installer has a "use free space" option11:14
alexiconit will detect that there is "free space" at the end of the disk11:14
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alexiconand the installer allows you to further partition and format11:14
alexiconwhere ever you tell it to put the /11:14
alexiconand it will warn you which partitions its going to touch for formatting11:15
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parsekwhy doesnt konqueror remember the "show creation time" setting altough i have saved the view profile11:16
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halfbloodprincethat's the confusing part alexicon11:18
halfbloodprincewhere exactly do i tell it to put the /11:18
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ibrahimhello  all11:20
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ibrahimi am new to kubuntu, i've just finished the installation11:21
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parseknext time i open the folder the (View->Show details->Show creation time) is grey and it doesnt show the creation time of files11:21
halfbloodprincehey ibrahim11:24
halfbloodprincehow are you?11:24
halfbloodprincei'm new to kubuntu, i'll be installing it soon11:24
halfbloodprincehow was your installing experience11:24
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halfbloodprince??11:26
halfbloodprincesomebody ping me11:26
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mezzpong11:30
mezz(sorry, v slow)11:30
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halfbloodprinceokay..11:31
halfbloodprincei have some questions :=11:31
halfbloodprinceL\11:31
halfbloodprince:\ dammit11:31
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alex_hola!!11:36
halfbloodprincehey alex_11:36
alex_ke tal11:36
alex_komo estas?11:36
alexicondoes anyone have /usr/bin/rc or know what package it relates to?11:37
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alex_hey algun programador de linux ke pueda darle algunas sabias palabras ke puedan darle a un novato interesado en aprender a programar para linux11:39
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halfbloodprinceenglish?11:40
alex_alguien ke me pueda sakar de algunas dudas!11:40
alex_so so11:40
Jucato!es11:40
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:40
Jucato!pt11:40
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.11:40
alex_ok11:40
alex_sorry11:40
alex_and tanks!11:41
Jucato:)11:41
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halfbloodprinceJucato, what'sup11:42
halfbloodprincejust the man i wanted to talk to :p11:42
Jucatohuh? :)11:43
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halfbloodprincehahaha11:43
halfbloodprincei just had some questions regarding partitioning11:43
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Jucatoooh...11:43
Jucatohope I can help. I'm no expert either :)11:43
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halfbloodprincewell, it's about dual booting.. say i re-format my hard drive (40gb), and create a 25gb partition for windows (ntfs), and leave the rest unpartitioned11:45
halfbloodprincehow do i tell the ubuntu installer to install in the unpartitioned space11:45
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Jucatohmm... there's an option in the installer to use an available free space (forgot the full text of that option)11:46
halfbloodprinceare there any further options i need to know?11:47
halfbloodprinceafter i select that one11:48
Jucatohm.. I'm not sure. I usually edit the partitions manually (3rd option, I think)...11:48
Jucatoerr... excuse me halfbloodprince, I need to go for a while... :(11:49
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halfbloodprinceok11:49
halfbloodprincethanks :)11:49
Jucato:)11:49
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vasihi, i'm trying to install kubuntu dapper from the live CD11:51
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vasibut when i get to the "manual partitioning" stage, nothing appears in the installer window to let me partition11:51
halfbloodprincehi vasi11:51
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vasiany idea what i should try?11:52
halfbloodprincei wouldn't know11:52
halfbloodprincei'm scared of manual partitions11:52
halfbloodprincedo you know how to partition it manually?11:52
vasiyeah, i've been on a linux spree lately11:53
vasithis is something like the 7th distro i've installed this week :-)11:53
halfbloodprinceah okay11:53
vasii'd really rather not wipe my whole hard drive if i can avoid it11:54
halfbloodprincei have a question regarding partition11:54
halfbloodprincecan you help me out?11:54
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vasimaybe...i'm a PPC guy, but i'll help as much as i can11:54
halfbloodprinceokay..11:54
alex_hey11:55
vasiah, my problem is on the "known bugs" page11:55
halfbloodprinceI have a 40gb hard drive, i plan to reformat it, and create a 25gb partition for windows (dual boot). i plan to leave the rest of it unpartitioned11:55
vasi"installer will crash if manual partitioning is used" :-(11:55
halfbloodprincewhen i install ubunto from the cd, how do i tell it to install using the 15gb unpartitioned space11:55
alex_whats the chanels for spanis??11:55
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alexiconcan anyone please tell me what /usr/bin/rc contains?11:55
halfbloodprinceoh yeah vasi, that's a reported bug i think11:56
alexicon!es11:56
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:56
alex_ok tank you again ;)11:56
vasialexicon: i have nothing in that path11:56
alexiconnod11:56
alexiconthanks11:56
vasii think 'rc' is usually in /etc?11:56
alexiconi have a feeling its a shell11:56
vasiyeah, it should be a shell script11:57
vasivery important for booting :-)11:57
alexiconhrm nah i think its a different one11:57
alexiconits a dependancy for bashish11:57
alexiconrc is a command interpreter and programming language similar to sh(1).11:58
halfbloodprincevasi, can u help me out?11:58
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vasihalfbloodprince: well you should be able to choose manual partitioning11:59
halfbloodprinceand after i choose that?11:59
vasiand then there will probably be an option to "automatically partition free space", at least most distros have that12:00
vasiotherwise you will have to manually allocate a swap and root partition12:00
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alexiconif you let it auto configure it should figure out what free space to create that will preserve windows12:00
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halfbloodprincealexicon: if i let it autoconfigure, it will also consider the free space in the windows partition12:01
halfbloodprincei want it to install only in the unpartitioned space12:02
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alexiconwhat do you see in the paritioner?12:02
halfbloodprincethere are 3 optiosn right12:03
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halfbloodprincehold on, i'm watching a video which tells me how to dual boot12:04
PensacolaI accidentaly closed my kde-menu-taskbar12:05
vasiif i choose "automatic partitioning", do i get a chance to review the result?12:05
Pensacolahow can I get it back?12:05
JucatoPensacola: Alt+F2 and type in "kicker"12:05
halfbloodprincevasi: automatic partitioning is 50-50 i think12:05
Pensacoladidn't work :s12:05
PensacolaI've closed it with kxdocker :s12:06
alexiconvasi i think it should confirm which partitions its going to format12:06
JucatoPensacola: how did you close it?12:06
kasimhi kubuntu-users, every time I start my kubuntu dapper with kde 3.5.4 the "personal-preference-assistent" (exact name unknown) pops up. How can I get rid of that behaviour?12:06
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alexiconcant remember 100% tho12:06
PensacolaI've closed it by right clicking on the kde menu in kxdocker and close kde menu12:06
kiizelican someone help me :S, i try to edit /etc/apt/sources.list-file whit sudo gedit command, but sudo says that gedit command not found??12:07
abattoirkiizeli: use kate instead of gedit12:07
Jucatokiizeli: we don't have gedit. substitute "kate"12:07
kiizeliaa12:07
kiizeliok12:07
abattoirhi Jucato12:07
Jucatoabattoir! hi12:07
lupine_85and use kdesu instead of sudo :)12:07
Pensacolawhen I type in kicker it gives me another kxdocker bar :s12:08
Jucatoooh thanks for adding that lupine_85 :)12:08
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JucatoPensacola: hm.. I'm not overly familiar with how kxdocker works. doesn't it have an option to make the normal Kicker appear again?12:08
lupine_85Pensacola: killall kicker; kicker ?12:09
JucatoPensacola: maybe you should close kxdocker first?12:09
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voicuHi, how do I configure my machine as a SMTP server?12:10
voicuWhat do I install?12:10
gnomefreakor kedit :)12:10
lupine_85voicu: install exim, postfix or sendmail12:10
Pensacolamy kicker menu appears for a split second after typing in kicker but no way to get it to show :s12:10
abattoirPensacola: kxdocker doesnt close the kicker, or make it disappear...12:10
lupine_85then Read The Manual12:10
CVirus!postfix12:10
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto12:10
lupine_85you don't want to become a spam relay12:10
CVirusvoicu: ^12:10
Pensacolamaybe if I reboot it will be fixed12:10
abattoirPensacola: ok, do as i say...12:10
Jucatoer....12:10
voicuok thanks :)12:10
abattoirPensacola: 'killall kicker'12:10
Pensacolajep12:11
lupine_85Pensacola: try shutting down and restarting X first?12:11
lupine_85ctrl+alt+bkspace12:11
abattoirhmm, why did he leave so soon? :(12:11
lupine_85meh12:11
lupine_85Reboots are for wimps;)12:11
Jucatolol12:11
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JucatoWindows habit...12:11
vasihmm, it seems my only choices are "Erase entire disk" or "Partition manually" (which crashes)12:11
vasiis there a way to use the text-mode installer from the desktop CD?12:12
Jucatovasi: unfortunately, no.12:12
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PensacolaI was a bit fast, sorry12:13
Jucatovasi: it's the Alternate Install CD that has that feature12:13
PensacolaI pressed ctrl alt backspace12:13
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vasiJucato: thanks12:13
vasii guess i'm off to download another CD :-/12:13
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Pensacolalupine_85 ?12:14
halfbloodprinceJucato: the normal iso that you get doesn't allow you to partition manually?12:14
lupine_85?12:15
Jucatohalfbloodprince: of course it does :)12:15
abattoirPensacola: did it work?12:15
halfbloodprincethen what is the alternate install cd for12:15
Jucatotext based installation and more advanced options12:15
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vasiJucato: do you know of any other way i can get around qtparted crashing in the desktop installer?12:16
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Jucatovasi: that I don't know. it shouldn't be crashing at all...12:16
vasi(maybe there's a text-ui option to ubiquity or something...)12:16
ubuntuhow to recognize and activate wireless card dell 1400 (bcm 4309)? Thank you!12:17
vasithe known bugs page says "Installer will crash if manual partitioning is used"12:17
abattoirvasi: what's your disk layout like?12:17
abattoirubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper12:18
vasiabattoir: i'm on PPC...i've got the standard Apple driver partitions, then a 30 GB HFS+ for OS X, 512 MB HFS+ for OS 9, bootstrap partition, swap, and ext212:18
vasii don't really NEED to do any partitioning, it's already done12:18
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abattoirvasi: does qtparted give out any error?12:18
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abattoirubuntu: Section 1.2 onwards12:19
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metaph3rHi there. Anyone having problems too with the latest amarok 1.4.3 release? I can't play any music. It always says it can't find a demuxing plugin. I tried with ogg and mp3. I followed the installation instructions at kubuntu.org.12:20
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vasiabattoir: abattoir: where can i paste my log?12:21
abattoir!pastebin12:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:21
abattoirvasi: ^^^12:21
vasicool12:21
voicuDo I need a domain name for the SMTP server to work?12:21
alexiconmetaph3r: what engine are you using with amarok12:22
XVampireXmetaph3r: have you installed gstreamer stuff? and do you have xine engine?12:22
alexiconlibxine-extracodecs12:22
XVampireXand xine-extracodecs12:22
XVampireXyeah12:22
CVirusvoicu: it should work with no domain name .. but most of the websites will block your E-mails12:22
vasihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2298912:22
vasithere's my installer syslog12:23
halfbloodprincewhat use is helix player12:23
metaph3rwell, i'm using the standard xine engine of dapper12:23
voicuCVirus: OK, now it makes sense why gmail didn't receive my mail :D12:23
CVirusvoicu: Gmail should accept it by the way12:23
vasinote btw that qtparted seems to launch ok if i run it standalone12:23
CVirusvoicu: hotmail doesnt though12:23
halfbloodprincevasi: standalone, as in?12:23
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metaph3rthe extracodecs package ist installed12:24
voicuCVirus: maybe it takes longer to receive it? postfix said it got delivered12:24
Pensacolaabattoir it didn't work :s12:24
CVirusvoicu: it should be there by the time postfix has said that it was deleivered12:24
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vasihalfbloodprince: as in running 'qtparted' from the command line12:24
abattoirvasi: what tool did you use to create the ext2 parition?12:24
CVirusvoicu: mailq and check if its qeued or not12:24
abattoirPensacola: you left before i could even tell you what to do :P12:24
Pensacolayeah, sorry :)12:25
vasiabattoir: it's unformatted at the moment12:25
Pensacolai know it's running now but I can't get it to show12:25
vasii'll format it and see if that does anygood12:25
voicuCVirus: the queue is empty12:25
CVirusvoicu: it should be in your inbox then .. or check your junk12:25
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abattoirPensacola: you want the regular kicker that comes w/ kubuntu, not kxdocker, right?12:25
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heinkel_111is it so that when i install new software with adept, it will only display in K menu after restarting X-server?12:26
heinkel_111or in the next session, whatever?12:26
voicuCVirus: yep, it labeled me as spam :), thanks for thinking for me :P12:26
Pensacolajep12:26
abattoirheinkel_111: it doesnt get added immediately, yes12:26
CVirusvoicu: no problem12:26
abattoirPensacola: ok, 'killall kxdocker'12:26
abattoirPensacola: 'killall kicker'12:27
heinkel_111ok, i just installed a lot of progs and could not find them in the menu :)12:27
Pensacolaok12:27
vasiabattoir: i just formatted it with 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda13'....i get the same error from the installer12:27
abattoirPensacola: 'rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc'12:27
abattoirPensacola: 'kicker'12:27
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abattoirvasi: as you might've noticed, "No Implementation: This ext2 file system has a rather strange layout!  Parted can't resize this (yet)."12:28
Pensacolathx abattoir it's back now12:28
abattoir^^^from the old log12:28
Pensacolayou guys rock12:28
abattoirPensacola: good :)12:28
kamikahi, my xserver locks the system when i start the live cd, can i start it somehow in text only runlevel?12:28
vasiabattoir: yes, that's still there12:28
CVirusvoicu: I would recommend that you read O'Reilly Postfix The Defintive Guide12:28
vasii guess i can try to mount my partitions to make sure they're all sane12:28
heinkel_111can someone help me understand what katapult is supposed to do?12:28
voicuOK, thanks. This postfix thing is great12:29
abattoirheinkel_111: launch applications, run commands, open locations, bookmarks amarok playlists12:29
abattoirheinkel_111: oh, and calculate12:29
heinkel_111it was not included in the documentation...is there a guide or hompage?12:29
vasiabattoir: all my mountable partitions mount fine12:30
vasii don't know why qtparted keeps saying my ext2 partition has a "strange layout" :-(12:30
halfbloodprincehaha12:31
abattoirvasi: its actually, 'parted' the backend...12:31
abattoirvasi: could you pastebin /var/log/installer/syslog ?12:31
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abattoirvasi: and also /var/log/partman12:32
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vasiok, i updated http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22990 with the new installer/syslog12:33
abattoirheinkel_111: http://wiki.thekatapult.org.uk/Home12:33
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abattoirvasi: next time, pls. put it separately12:34
kamikasomebody hast an idea for my xserver problem?12:34
abattoirvasi: or are both the pastes the same?12:35
heinkel_111thank you , abattoir!12:36
abattoirheinkel_111: you're welcome12:36
vasiabattoir: the new stuff is at the end of installer/syslog12:36
vasiit was just appended to12:36
vasiok, here's the ending portion of /var/log/partman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2299212:37
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XVampireXE-Gay: You should join #gaygeeks :P12:38
E-Gay:)12:38
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heinkel_111yes you should :)12:38
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vasihmm, it appears that when i try to do manual partitioning, the partman log isn't touched12:42
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ubuntuamarok01:11
heinkel_111!amarok01:13
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ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org01:13
halfbloodprinceisn't the latest version 1.4.3?01:13
heinkel_111i seem to be using 1.4.2 :)01:14
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halfbloodprincewww.amarok.org01:14
halfbloodprincesorry01:14
halfbloodprincehttp://amarok.kde.org/01:15
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heinkel_111the package description for bugzilla describes the controllable regex mutilator ???01:17
heinkel_111obviously something must be wrong somewhere in the labyrinths of the repositories?01:17
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heinkel_111where to report the bug then :P01:17
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Matalohi did somebody tried kde4 package on amd6401:19
JohnFluxMatalo: there's a kde4 package?01:19
JohnFluxMatalo: I compile kde4 from svn on amd6401:19
abattoirJohnFlux: yes... for i386, edgy, btw01:19
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JohnFluxabattoir: heh01:20
JohnFluxabattoir: how pointless :-)01:20
Matalono there is only i386 package, but i wondered if it works on amd6401:20
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abattoirMatalo: KDE4 will surely work on amd64, but the i386 packages wont01:21
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abattoirunless you mean an i386 install on an amd64 machine :P01:22
Matalook so i should compile it from svn ok than thanks01:22
Matalono i have amd64 kubuntu01:22
JohnFluxMatalo: hmm01:22
abattoiraah, yes, then that's the solution :)01:22
JohnFluxMatalo: can you compile from svn?01:23
JohnFluxMatalo: i mean, do you have the skillz ;-)01:23
JohnFluxMatalo: it's often broken01:23
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Matalowell i am not sure but i am developing already some stuff under qt4 i know it is not same but ... i can try at least :)01:23
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dhqhey all01:26
dhqis there any software to improve the performance of sound while playon songs01:27
dhq!ping01:27
ubotuping: connection timeout01:27
JohnFluxdhq: "performance of sound" ?01:27
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dhqJohnFlux: well good effects in the sounds you know01:28
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JohnFluxdhq: i'm not too sure what such a piece of software would do.01:29
lupine_85xmms has loads of plugins01:29
dhq!ping Hawkwind01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ping Hawkwind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
lupine_85one of those might do the trick (depending on what you want)01:29
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halfbloodprinceI think dhq means DSP effects01:30
dhqlupine_85: well there is nothing built in like which will improve it for all01:30
lupine_85true01:30
ubuntuoups !!01:30
dhqhalfbloodprince: yes something like that01:30
roger_try blacksec.org01:30
ubuntugod morning for you01:31
ubuntumy novice linux01:31
lupine_85hi ubuntu01:31
ubuntumy old french man !!01:31
ubuntuhi lupine 8501:32
lupine_85if you have trouble with english, there are many foreign-language channel :)01:32
lupine_85!fr01:32
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:32
lupine_85?01:32
ubuntumy fr01:32
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gogetahello01:47
matushi01:47
gogetamy frend has a networking issue01:47
gogetahis isp is shitlol01:47
gogetaanyone knoe howto setup rogers cable01:47
lupine_85how is it terminated?01:49
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gogetasimply not working lol01:50
gogetasence install01:50
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malcolmI've got a windows hdd(ntfs)  how do i mount in on kubuntu?01:50
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matusdoes anybody know of any large (k)ubuntu jabber server/chatroom?01:51
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lupine_85gogeta: how is the connection terminated? e.g. did he have to login from the windows partition? (PPPoE) Is it wireless? ethernet?01:51
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gogetaits a pure system01:52
gogetalinux only01:52
gogetai told him to try reseting the modem works on my isp anyways01:52
lupine_85if he doesn't know how the connection is terminated, he'll have to ask his ISP01:52
lupine_85it's hard to set something up if you don't know what you're aiming for ;)01:53
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gogetahe said there shit never works unless he installs the softwhere01:53
gogetawindows crap01:53
lupine_85then it's probably PPPoE01:53
gogetabut being a cable ispi dont buy that01:53
lupine_85or something equally useless01:53
malcolmhow do i mount my ntfs hdd?01:53
lupine_85malcolm: read-only01:54
gogetappoe is dsl01:54
lupine_85e.g. mount -t ntfs /dev/file /path/to/mount/point01:54
lupine_85gogeta: my dsl is PPPoA01:54
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lupine_85regardless, if he doesn't know, he can't set it up01:54
gogetahes a totalnoob01:54
CapNemodamned superkaramba doesnt install theme !01:55
lupine_85then he needs to get in touch with his ISP support ;)01:55
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gogetano use01:55
gogetayou say linux they laugh01:55
parsekhow can i install an .rpm file01:55
lupine_85...all he has to do is ask them how the connection is terminated01:55
lupine_85!alien01:55
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).01:55
lupine_85usually safe for application software01:56
gogetatermated humm01:56
gogetanot working probly no ip01:56
lupine_85as in, how the connection is presented to his home computer/the Windows software01:56
gogetaif i was at thepc i could tell you01:56
lupine_85presumably he needs to authenticate in some way; that usuall points to PPPoE01:56
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gogetai asked if it nedded some king of login he said no01:57
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halfbloodprinceyay i figured out my partitioning doubts by watching a video on google01:58
gogetapartations system01:58
gogetasystem explods01:58
gogetalol01:58
lupine_85lol01:59
lupine_85ok gogle suggests that it's a static IP setup01:59
gogetawell hes not back yet power cycling probly worked01:59
lupine_85erm, google rather01:59
lupine_85http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-7.0/docs/Linux-mini-HOWTO/Cable-Modem01:59
gogetayea i read that to but it also says it changed to dchp later01:59
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gogetaaa newer doc did02:01
gogetait must be working hes not back yet02:01
gogetalol02:01
gogetasence he switched pcs02:02
parsekok so i dont use it but how can i get vlc to play files over network without konqueror downloading them first to tmp02:02
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gogetadoes it matter02:03
gogetatmp is just that there deleted02:03
parsekbut it takes a long time02:03
parsek40s or something02:03
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lordkamauHie all...02:04
gogetai think you can change the delay but im not shure abought not using tmp02:04
lordkamauhave a quick question to ask ...02:04
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gogetawell ask02:05
Lynoureit's even quicker when you just ask it :)02:05
lordkamaui am trying to set my linux ubuntu 6.06 system to work in dual head mode...02:05
lordkamaui tried installing ati drivers to no avail..02:06
lordkamauhas any of you done this before?02:06
gogetayou probly will need those02:06
gogetainstall ati driver yep02:06
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lordkamaui just tried but get the "unsupported architecture" error02:07
parsekwhat craphics card you have BTW?02:07
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Healotlordkamau: you're using a Mac?02:08
gogetaor 64bit02:08
Healotor different installer for different CPU architecture?02:08
lordkamauno...02:08
lordkamaui have a pent 402:08
halfbloodprincedoes kubuntu recognize screen resolution, etc?02:09
halfbloodprince i mean does it do it properly02:09
Healotthings would be better if you tell use about the filename of the ATI installer, what ubuntu version you installed?02:09
lordkamauyeah....02:10
lordkamauati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run on ubuntu 6.0602:10
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lordkamaui am using a hp pavilion laptop02:11
Healotare you sure you downloaded the correct installer for the correct ubuntu version?02:11
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lordkamauthere are only two options on the ati web site as far as linux go. Linux x86 and Linux x86_6402:12
lordkamaui chose Linux x8602:13
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lordkamauthe installer gives the option to unpack ubuntu 6.06 package but then it gives me the "unsupported architecture" error02:14
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Healotokay, then it's really the isntaller fault.02:15
toni__ciao02:15
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toni__qualcuno parla italiano?02:15
MenZa!it02:15
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:15
toni__vorrei un consiglio02:15
toni__!it02:16
lordkamauany suggestions?02:16
MenZatoni__: go to #kubuntu-it02:16
Healotuse the ubuntu stock ati driver, the 3d one, xserver-driver-fglrx02:17
Healot!info 02:17
ubotuPackage  does not exist in any distro I know02:17
Healot!info xserver-driver-fglrx02:18
ubotuPackage xserver-driver-fglrx does not exist in any distro I know02:18
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Healot!find fglrx02:18
ubotuFound: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source02:18
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Healotxorg :)02:18
lordkamauso non of you guys has ever set up a dual head configuration?02:19
lordkamauon a pentium 402:19
Healotnot me, can't afford any extra monitor02:19
Healot!display02:19
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:19
lordkamauwhat good will restarting the x windows system do?02:20
MenZareload your config settings.02:21
lordkamau....as far as dual head mode goes02:21
Healotjust follow the link, you'll find out how to figure duel monitor display02:21
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lordkamaucool thanks y'all.02:22
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halfbloodprinceis there any one here who uses only kubuntu? no dual boot or vmware02:23
DeadS0ulI do02:25
DeadS0ulactually i dual boot02:25
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halfbloodprinceah02:25
DeadS0ulapt-get upgrade *02:26
tobias_hello! is the only way to upgrade from dapper to edgy to use ubuntu's/gnome's update manager? 'Cause this would be akward...02:26
DeadS0ulnaw02:26
DeadS0ulyou can use commandline02:26
tobias_but the sources.list is set to the dapper-repos..02:27
DeadS0uljust update your sources.list by hand02:27
DeadS0ulmake sure you know what you're doing02:27
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DeadS0uland things my break too =P02:28
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parantobias_: replace dapper with edgy everywhere in sources.list, run aptitude update then aptitude upgrade02:29
tobias_so there is no GUI-way to do this? I mean, i could do it manually, but i'm just thinking of the concept in generell... There is no Kubuntu/KDE tool to upgrade to the next kubuntu-version then..02:29
parantobias_: can't you do that using adept in KDE?02:30
DeadS0uluse adept02:30
DeadS0ulyou can edit your sources.lsit with and do a distupgarade02:30
tobias_you mean, go to adept & edit the sources.list from there?02:30
DeadS0ulyeah02:30
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tobias_thanks!02:32
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tobias_I won't upgrade just yet anyway - things are too unstable still in edgy ... but I wanted to have a look on how it's done when the time's right.02:32
tobias_has any of you guys upgraded to edgy already?02:33
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lackdianthi, which is the best application to make a video/gif/flash about desktop in kubuntu?02:35
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Russelhiho02:35
Russelwhy does kopete not support jingle in dapper?02:35
lackdiantI saw screenkast and maybe another but I want to know about others apps02:35
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halfbloodprinceGAP?02:38
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HobbseeRussel: because it needs a specific lib not in ubuntu02:39
Hobbseeit likely wont support it in edgy either, i expect02:39
Russelthat is... stupid02:39
Hobbseeactually.  it does exist in ubuntu.  it's a different version02:40
Hobbseeand only one version works.02:40
Russelmhhh02:40
Russelhow can i get a version with jingle? compile it myself?02:42
abattoirRussel: yes02:42
abattoirRussel: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Jingle02:43
Russelthx02:43
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wolfgangtest02:48
SonicChaoO.o02:49
SonicChao!test02:49
ubotuFailed.02:49
SonicChaoHm...02:49
wolfganghallo02:49
SonicChaoWell, please test in #tets02:49
SonicChao#test02:49
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wolfgangsorry will nicht stren, habe nur mal geschaut was passiert wenn man klickt02:50
Hobbsee!de02:50
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:50
wolfgangschnen tag noch02:50
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RusselHobbsee: is it possible to have the old version for this in kubuntu?02:55
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HobbseeRussel: not easily.02:56
HobbseeRussel: certainly not in dapper02:56
Russelin edgy?02:56
CVirusI Want a simple KDE picture editor .. suggestions ?02:56
Russelbecause kopete folks just use the libjingle and google uses ortp 0.7.1 (i think)02:57
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halfbloodprincegimp?02:58
halfbloodprincethere was something else.. i forgot02:58
abattoirCVirus: krita comes pre-installed02:58
RusselCVirus: krita02:58
halfbloodprinceyeah02:58
halfbloodprincethats the one02:58
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CVirusabattoir: Russel: I want a simple one02:58
CVirus!02:58
abattoirCVirus: you mean like paint ?02:59
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halfbloodprincepicasa?02:59
CVirusabattoir: exactly02:59
abattoir!info kolourpaint02:59
ubotukolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1030 kB, installed size 2328 kB02:59
abattoirCVirus: ^^^^02:59
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halfbloodprincepicasa is available for linux, man02:59
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DeadS0ulthat's photo management02:59
CVirushalfbloodprince: why would I use closed source software !02:59
halfbloodprinceyou can edit in picasa too03:00
halfbloodprinceah03:00
halfbloodprincepoint03:00
halfbloodprincebecause it's google? :p03:00
SonicChaoPicasa? I've never seen more sucky software.03:00
Dr_WillisSonicChao,   I can think of worse software. :P03:01
SonicChaoCVirus: Kolourpaint is awesome, it's almost exactly like paint....if thats what you want03:01
Dr_Willisbut it depends on  how sucky you want to get, old sucky, new sucky, or EGADS what where they thinking sucky!03:02
Dr_Willis:P03:02
SonicChaoDr_Willis: Come on. I dare you. ;)03:02
HobbseeRussel: yes.  the ortp is the problem03:02
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ show libortp4 | grep Version03:02
HobbseeVersion: 1.3.5-1build103:02
Dr_WillisThat MS Digiatal Photo Program is sucky in new ways...03:02
Dr_Willisbut the wife likes it.03:02
DeadS0ulkaffeine kinda sucks03:02
SonicChaoNot as much as Picassa.03:03
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halfbloodprincepicasa isn't that bad actually03:03
halfbloodprinceat least i dont tihnk so03:03
DeadS0ulpicasa has gotten great reviews03:03
SonicChaoI don't use anything closed source.03:03
SonicChaoExcept, w32codecs ;)03:04
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DeadS0ulthat doesnt' make other software sucky03:04
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SonicChaoSure it does.03:04
SonicChaoWindows could come preinstalled with 10 viruses for all we know.03:04
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Dr_WillisNah. thats Os-X the X is for the # of exploits that are denied.03:05
DeadS0ulthat's fud..03:05
Dr_Willis:)03:05
SonicChaolol03:05
Dr_WillisPicasa for linux - is still using WIne? or did they finially make a native port?03:05
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MetaMorfoziS:)))03:05
halfbloodprincepeople keep talking about windows vs linux... i've never seen a os x vs linux comparison03:05
SonicChaoThat's because OS X is Unixish.03:05
SonicChaoSo we tend to like it.03:05
halfbloodprincethere is a google port03:05
halfbloodprinceautomatix installs it03:06
Healotpeople talking about Windows vs. Linux are saggy geeks :)03:06
SonicChaolol Healot03:06
Healothey03:06
HealotI would like whatever OS I would like to use03:07
Dr_WillisWindows Vs Linux.. Like Discussing  "Table Saw Vs Router"03:07
Russeli could say a lot about osx -.-03:07
Dr_Willis:P03:07
Dr_WillisTable saw is good for its jobs.. but the router can be so much more flexiable.03:07
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SonicChaoOS X vs Linux would be fork against spoon03:07
SonicChaoThat's how similar they are. ;)03:07
Dr_WillisSpork vs a Spoon. :)03:08
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trans-awyhello, whats the difference between version 6.06 and 6.06.1?03:09
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Healotread the changelog?03:10
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|lostbyte|Hai, guys :)03:10
Healotbasically it fixed the GUI installer, etc. etc.03:10
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trans-awypardon me, linux noob here, but 6.06.1 is still a stable version right?03:11
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halfbloodprinceyeah03:11
trans-awyalright, thanks03:11
halfbloodprinceif you're getting a new one, get 6.06.103:11
Healotfix to a stable version03:11
trans-awyok, cool03:11
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halfbloodprinceif you get 6.06, then you might have to install a whole bunch of updates03:12
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shadowhywindmorning all03:12
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Healot218 updates pending...03:13
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shadowhywindi have a quick question, during install i had to turn acpi=off, i removed it and tried starting and it kept freezeing, is there a package that i am missing?03:14
Healot!find acpi03:15
ubotuFound: acpi, acpid, acpidump, acpitool, wmacpi (and 3 others)03:15
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shadowhywindwhat are the chances that if i install those packagess that it will freeze on startup like it was doing beforeE?03:16
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soulriderhi everyone03:18
halfbloodprincehello03:18
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halfbloodprinceyay i know how to dual boot now03:25
halfbloodprinceall that's left is downloading the iso, burning it, and actually installing it03:25
halfbloodprincedownloading will actually take like 3 days or something03:25
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xwolf-!xgl03:27
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:27
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halfbloodprincedoes anyone know how long it takes to install automatix?03:29
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Kr4t05halfbloodprince: depends on your connection speed. However, I recommend easyubuntu.03:32
halfbloodprincebtw, if i have a fat32 formatted drive, will it show automatically in my file manager03:32
Kr4t05halfbloodprince: is it listed in your /etc/fstab?03:33
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halfbloodprincei haven't installed it yet.. if i have one ntfs drive (for windows), one fat 32, one swap and one ext3 (for linux), will the fat32 show up03:36
halfbloodprinceor do i have to do somethign during installation to make it show up03:36
Kr4t05halfbloodprince: What haven't you installed yet? The fat32 drive?03:37
_rince_mrgn03:38
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Werdnahi there03:40
Werdnawhat's the deal with Kubuntu/Ubuntu and IPv6?03:40
shadowhywindok so installed the acpi stuff, restarted (took acpi=off) out of bootup, and it still foze, what is the command to see the verbose startup, see if i can't figure out why its freezeing03:40
halfbloodprinceKr4t05: I haven't installed linux yet, i want to know this before hand03:40
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Kr4t05halfbloodprince: Yes, in the ubiquity installer, there is an option to mount FAT32 and NTFS drives. However, at this time, it is not possible for Ubuntu to write to NTFS without some rather unsafe software.03:42
halfbloodprinceKr4t05: I dont want it to write to NTFS, I am creating the FAT32 drive with the sole purpose of sharing the data between my windows and linux installations... how do i mount the fat32 drive during installation03:43
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Kr4t05halfbloodprince: The installer will have a list of drop-down menus for you to use. I suggest you use the fat32 drive as your /home/ directory. That way, should your installation ever fail, you will have all of your files and application settings safe on another drive.03:45
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Kr4t05halfbloodprince: (the /home/ is == My Documents)03:46
halfbloodprinceokay..03:46
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HobbseeRussel: would have been helpful if you'd pastebinned me the comments about ortp from #kopete :P03:46
halfbloodprinceKr4t05: just curious, can i use it as something other than /home/03:47
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soulriderhi everyone03:47
Kr4t05halfbloodprince: Yes, you can mount a partition to any location in the filesystem.03:47
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soulrideri suggets o mount to /mnt/ or /media/03:48
soulriderits kind of standard :P03:48
halfbloodprinceKr4t05: also, why do you recommend easyubuntu over automatix? automatix seems to be installing a lot more applications...03:48
shadowhywindanyone know how to start kubuntu in verbose mode? or some text mode03:48
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Jucatoremove the "splash" from the line in menu.lst? not really sure about that, though...03:49
shadowhywindworth a shot03:49
JucatoIn Splashy, pressing F2 switches to verbose mode, AFAIK. I don't know if it's the same in USplash.03:49
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halfbloodprincesoulrider: i should mount the fat32 drive to /mnt/ or /media/ ? what's the diff betn the two03:50
Jucatohalfbloodprince: hm.. nothing? you can even mount it in /home/<username>/mount_point if you want to, iirc03:51
Jucatobut it seems to me that Kubuntu defaults to mounting stuff in /media03:51
soulrideryea halfbloodprince, you can put it anywhere03:51
soulriderbut most people will just put it on /media/03:52
soulriderwell, it does make sense03:52
soulriderput media in /media/ :P03:52
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Jucatofrankly, I don't even know why some put it in /media, and others put it in /mnt03:52
halfbloodprincethis may seem like a really n00b question, but if i mount it as /media/ what will it show up as in the file manager03:52
Kr4t05halfbloodprince: yep.03:52
soulridersure it will03:52
Jucatoyep it will :)03:52
Kr4t05halfbloodprince: And, don't mind about noob questions. We all asked them once. ^.^03:53
thomashi there, can some1 give a nooby a hint? i am looking for a way to stream my audio output from my kubuntu notebook to another machine in the local net.03:53
soulriderhalfbloodprince: its cool to be newbie =) i installed kubuntu like a month ago03:53
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Kr4t05Well, except for hybrid... He came out of the womb with infinite knowledge.03:53
beemonkanyone free to help? :)03:53
Kr4t05thomas: gnump3d?03:53
Kr4t05!question03:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:54
soulriderlol Kr4t05sure beemonk03:54
Kr4t05><03:54
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jake1!restricted formats03:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:54
soulriderlol i dont know what i typed03:55
Kr4t05thomas: gnump3d is an MP3/Ogg streaming server that will allow you to stream both single tracks, and a randomized list to other computers.03:55
soulriderbeemonk: what do you need?03:55
beemonksoulrider: thanks....right, well i've just switched from xp to kubuntu...I've got an Audigy 2 soundcard and a 5.1 surround sound USB headset (medusa), I've managed to get mp3's working on both devices....Now I'm using vmware, trying to get sound to work through my audigy card...03:55
halfbloodprince:) thanks guys.. i want to know, if i open the file manager (konqueror, krusader, etc), what will the fat32 drive be represented (as in hda1, hda2, what exactly?)03:55
beemonkI've found some tutorials on setting up your .asoundrc...but, i'm such a noob...03:55
soulriderbeemonk: i never ahd a sound card lol03:55
Jucatohalfbloodprince: depends on where you mounted it and what name you gave to the mount point03:55
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soulriderso im not the most appropiate person to help you03:56
beemonksoulrider: your good then arent you :P03:56
beemonklol03:56
beemonkMPEG 1.0 layer III, 192 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo03:56
beemonkALSA snd_pcm_open error: No such file or directory03:56
beemonk/bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No such file or directory03:56
beemonk=/03:56
Kr4t05halfbloodprince: what Jucato said. Oddly enough, I was typing the EXACT same thing.03:56
Jucatoheh...03:56
soulrideruhm, i got no idea lol03:56
beemonkoh well03:56
soulrideri suggets you go to www.ubuntuforums.org03:56
soulriderand searcht here03:56
soulridertheres a LOT of help03:56
dch3mnI have problem with smn03:57
soulriderwhere is it that you cant get sound on ?03:57
soulriderkubuntu or vmware ?03:57
beemonkI have sound running fine on Kubuntu with my usb headset and audigy 2/4.1 speakers, but looks like you need to configure your .asoundrc to use dmix or....something so I can use sound in VMware03:57
Kr4t05I think that Firefox and Konqueror should be packaged with bookmarks for Ubuntu Forums, the Wiki, and the Help Pages03:57
soulriderlol, i just realized that im on VMware now, i totally forgot! O.O03:57
beemonkAh, the sound works perfect when i use my USB headset in vmware/xp03:58
soulriderahh beemonk03:58
soulrideri got trouble in vmware too03:58
beemonkbut I just want to try and get my audigy 2 to work inside vmware03:58
beemonki found..........vmwaredsp03:58
thomasKr4t05: looks good, i am not sure if it's what i'm looking for, as my main purpose is to send audio from amarok to another machine. i'll look around on their website though and maybe try03:58
soulrideru think that if something in kubuntu is using it vmware cant03:58
beemonkvmwaredsptools 1.3...03:58
soulriderhave you insatlled the vmware tools ?03:58
beemonknah its not a busy device issue03:58
soulriderah, ok03:58
Kr4t05thomas: no, this won't send it via amarok... It runs as a separate utility.03:58
beemonkjust i havent configured my confs right because im a linux noob :P03:58
jake1how do i force architecture03:58
jake1what is the format of the command03:59
soulrideruhm03:59
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soulriderhow about the vmware channel ?03:59
halfbloodprincecan i mount the fat32 after the installation is finished?03:59
jake1dpkg -i --force architecture03:59
beemonkah, didnt even think :P03:59
soulridermaybe they can help you better than we can03:59
soulrider^^03:59
beemonk:) ty03:59
soulriderjust go to #vmware03:59
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dch3mnproblem with messanger, some help?03:59
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beemonk*stoopid :P03:59
soulriderlol, dont03:59
thomasKr4t05: yupp. i was hoping there is some kind of amarok plugin or "engine" (as it says in the options) that could simply work like a streaming server?04:00
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Jucato!ask04:00
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:00
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beemonkah but...soulrider... the problem i have in kubuntu is..04:01
nagyvhello! what is the best way to have a linux2windows webcam chat?04:02
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beemonkaoss mpg123 my.mp3           returns the errors i pasted04:02
Kr4t05thomas: I'm not entire sure...04:02
jake1where can i find the package libstdc++504:02
Kr4t05thomas: I don't think there is anything like that.04:02
jake1it's not installed on my system04:02
Kr4t05nagyv: amsn?04:02
Kr4t05nagyv: If your webcam is supported, that works fine.04:02
dch3mnin gaim internet messanger I put my username and password and this is doing ;starting authentication and then finish04:03
soulrideri dunno beemonk =/04:04
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dch3mnit says nasi.matteo@hotmail.com has been disconnected, connection error from Notification server04:04
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halfbloodprinceKr4t05: you didnt answer my question about easyubuntu vs automatix04:05
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Kr4t05halfbloodprince: what was that?04:06
thomasKr4t05: k, thx. i'll google on. just discovered that maybe vlc could maybe stream from a simple file, while the xine engine can output to a file (would be raw audio then, i hope)04:06
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Kr4t05halfbloodprince: easyubuntu has certain sanity checks that keep it from breaking your system, as automatix is prone to.04:07
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jdiezlopezHola04:08
dch3mnhola04:08
soulriderhola04:08
dch3mnespanol?04:08
soulrider!es04:08
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:08
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soulriderese es el canal para los que hablan espaol ok, solo ingles en este canal04:08
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Ash-Fox!es04:09
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:09
halfbloodprinceKr4t05: automatix is known to break your system?/04:09
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Jucatohalfbloodprince: in some cases, yes. but EasyUbuntu isn't flawless as well... sorry Kr4t0504:10
Jucatothat's why I still prefer to teach newbies the "full" way, if and only if they're willing to04:10
dch3mnhere how can I speak privately with only one users04:11
nidalhi all , can someone tell me why my synaptic is looking for proxy when I have selected to go through "direct internet connection " in network settings ?04:11
Jucatodch3mn: you need to register your nick first.04:11
dch3mnwhere I do it?04:11
Jucatodch3mn: you type /msg nickserv register <password> <e-mail>04:11
Jucatobest do it in some othe window/tab04:12
RusselHobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2300304:12
Russel(a bit late :D)04:12
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dch3mnI do it from the command line?04:12
Jucatodch3mn: no, not in the command line04:13
dch3mnwhere?04:13
Jucatoin Konversation (or whatever IRC program you are using)04:13
halfbloodprinceJucato: So should I use automatix or not? And if not, what should I use? If I use automatix, how much time will it take to download and install (64kbps connection)04:13
ubuntuen qu idioma? What language?04:13
Jucatoubuntu: spanish?04:13
ubuntusi04:14
Jucato!es04:14
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:14
ubuntuok ubotu04:14
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HobbseeRussel: yeah, i got it repasted :)04:14
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Jucatohalfbloodprince: the choice is yours. The advantage of Automatix and EasyUbuntu is that they automate a lot of things for you. They're just scripts. they don't contain all the codecs/plugins/etc.04:15
heinkel_111my apt package database is locked, by error in some install script. Hod do I open it again?04:15
RusselHobbsee: something can be done about this in edgy?04:15
heinkel_111my apt package database is locked, by error in some install script. How do I open it again?04:15
dch3mnsorry can I have more help to register please04:15
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HobbseeRussel: possibly.  i doubt it.04:16
Jucatoheinkel_111: type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in Konsole and it will continue where it stopped04:16
Russel:(04:16
heinkel_111thx Jucato!04:16
Hobbsee!info oleo04:16
ubotuoleo: GNU spreadsheet program. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.16-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 389 kB, installed size 1360 kB04:16
Hobbseegood.04:16
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beemonkAnyone got an Audigy 2 soundcarD?04:17
halfbloodprincethanks Jucato04:18
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dch3mnHow can I register here?04:18
halfbloodprincemy kubuntu iso is downloaded 17mb :D04:18
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Jucatodch3mn: type "/msg nickserv register <password_that_you_want> <e-mail_address>" in the place where you type messages in Konversation04:19
heinkel_111beemonk:  yes i have, but not on this machine04:19
nagyvKr4t05: I have tried amsn, but the webcam can't connect given firewall settings. Do you have any expriences using wengophone?04:19
[GuS] Hi people!!04:19
nidalcan someone tell me how to force synaptic(in kubuntu) to NOT use proxy ?04:19
halfbloodprinceJucato: if i forget my password, how do i retrieve it?04:20
[GuS] some knows a HOWTO for installing XGL/Compiz in Kubuntu?04:20
[GuS] and for KDE of course..04:20
Jucatohalfbloodprince: password in here?04:20
halfbloodprincefreenode password*04:20
soulrideri think i saw one in ubuntuforums04:20
[GuS] yeah04:20
[GuS] but for Ubuntu04:20
soulriderisnt it to make things transparent ?04:20
[GuS] using gnome-wm04:20
Jucato[GuS] : you could try searching in www.ubunforums.org and www.kubuntuforums.net/forums04:20
nagyvHow sip works in general? (how can I use it to connect to a windows machine? is there webcam support in it?)04:20
[GuS] yeah Jucato i've searched many places... but most refered to Ubuntu/Gnome04:21
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soulrider[GuS] : what you want is to make iwndows transparent right ?04:21
Jucatoeven in kubuntuforums.net?04:21
[GuS] no soulrider ...04:21
halfbloodprinceJucato: yes, password in here04:21
Jucatohalfbloodprince: that I don't know...04:21
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habeebGreetings, how can I lock program versions in KDE? I think it doesnt have synaptic, and I dont remmeber how to do it from that preferences config file..04:23
cathal_Is their any nice easy to use GUI programs like "dvdsanta" to convert avi's to dvd's on linux?04:23
soulridercathal: i think you can use k9copy04:24
beemonkheinkel_111: :/ given up anyway04:25
cathalkul ill check it out04:25
henrymHey, does anyone know of a way to sort of do a reverse lookup of the apt-get database (cache?) to figure out what package a particular file comes from?04:25
cathalsoulrider, that seems to only copy DVD's from what i read04:27
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Hobbseehenrym: dpkg -L filename04:29
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shadowhywindquestion - when i turn acpi on, my computer freezes on configureing network devices. Anyone have any ideas?04:30
_Shade_hi there04:30
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Jucatohenrym: you could also type in "apt:/" in Konqueror, and use the file search there.04:31
_Shade_have anyone here tried knot-2 ?04:31
shadowhywindi have04:31
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shadowhywindbut couldn't get my ethernet working so wen back to dapper04:32
_Shade_shadowhywind: i'm going to give it a go, but i'm not sure if it's safe04:32
whizz-installing grub to a hd simply is grub-install /dev/hd# , right?04:32
Jucato_Shade_: only install it on a separate partition or another machine. not for everyday, regular, normal usage04:33
beemonksigh04:33
shadowhywindwell my thinking is, what do i have to lose, execpt for 15 mins of install04:33
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henrymHobbsee: that didn't seem to work, but I found dpkg -S filename does, thanks04:33
henrymJucato: cheers, that's really cool04:33
Jucato:)04:33
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nagyvHow sip works in general? (how can I use it to connect to a windows machine? is there webcam support in it?)04:33
_Shade_jucato ok thanks, i will... i'm just downloading the iso image04:33
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Blissexnagyv: SIP is a terribly complicated horror... And it is strictly VoIP.04:34
_Shade_Jucato: do i have to do dist upgrade to update to the latest snapshot/release or simply have to do apt-get update ?04:35
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Blissexnagyv: however SIP is a sessions establishment (dialing) protocol, and then the actual session is done over some other protocol like RTSP.04:35
Jucato_Shade_: dist-upgrade your main system?04:35
_Shade_Jucato: no i meant edgy04:35
nagyvBlissex: and what is your advise to have a webcam chat with a windows machine? (amsn's webcam doesn't work because of firewall settings)04:35
Jucato_Shade_: once you have installed Knot 2? Adept Updater would do it for you. (or if you want apt-get update)04:36
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_Shade_Jucato: you mean that when - lets say - knot 3 will be released, the only thing i have to do is to update my current release ?04:37
Blissexnagyv: that is a hard problem indeed. Skype with video might be a regrettable option. Not sure Skype with video is already released for Linux.04:37
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nagyvBlissex: as I know it's not :(04:38
Jucato_Shade_: yep04:38
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_Shade_Jucato: kewl....  34% still to go though :) i've got a slow connection04:39
Blissexnagyv: then you got to tweak the firewall, which is quite annoying. E.g. for H.323 as in Microsoft04:39
_Shade_Jucato: where are you from by the way ?04:39
JucatoPhilippines...04:40
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_Shade_Jucato: quite far :)04:40
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Jucato:D04:40
_Shade_Jucato: there's a nice proposal in kubuntu edgy theme to exchange the default logout screen. It looks awesome04:42
_Shade_i wonder if they would include it in the final release since it's only a mockup yet04:42
whizz-exit04:43
Jucato_Shade_: which one?04:43
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vgehmm, what will be most important updates to KDE4?04:44
_Shade_Jucato: wait a sec... i'll find ir04:44
Jucatothanks :)04:44
_Shade_i never liked that default kde logout stuff :)04:45
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tsdgeosvge: the 4 itslef!04:47
tsdgeosand of course the kmahjongg with svg04:48
tsdgeosthat's the most important improvement :D04:48
tsdgeosj/k04:48
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solemnwarningHey04:48
solemnwarningIs there a site containing a list of packages in kubuntu repos?04:48
Hawkwindpackages.kubuntu.org ?04:48
Jucatohttp://packages.ubuntu.com04:48
solemnwarninger04:49
HawkwindHmmm, there is one for Kubuntu too04:49
solemnwarningKubuntu uses the ubuntu repos?04:49
Jucatosolemnwarning: yes04:49
JucatoHawkwind: really? never realized that heh04:49
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JucatoHawkwind: oh no..04:49
halfbloodprinceI was wondering, is KDE slow in general? I read somewhere that it's really sluggish04:49
HawkwindJucato: I saw one somewhere I *think*04:50
soulriderhalfbloodprince: KDE works like charm for me04:50
halfbloodprince'one of the slowest desktop environments out there', apparently/04:50
soulriderin fact, im running edgy on vmware04:50
HawkwindHawkwind: Depends on the system probably04:50
ccchalfbloodprince: no way04:50
soulriderand it doesnt even feel like it son vmware04:50
JucatoHawkwind: you're talking about kubuntu.org/packages ?04:50
soulriderfeels like if it were installed04:50
_Shade_Jucato: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas04:50
Jucato_Shade_: thanks for the link. I'll look into it04:50
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Jucatohalfbloodprince: not really. a lot of factors can affect the speed of KDE or GNOME. but by far, Xfce is really the fastest, no contest about that04:51
whizz-is there a file that lists errors during boot ?04:51
HawkwindJucato: Ah maybe so.  I never actually looked at the URL, just saw someone post it once04:52
Jucatowhizz-: dmesg is a command that displasy those04:52
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unclemike? anyone have any idea why my system will not boot from the kubuntu or winxp..on my pc..but it boots from the linux live cd's...but then reinstall the kubuntu...and nothing...wont even boot from xp cd04:52
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_Shade_it's really great in my opinion... although i don't like the purple look, i like the idea -- it looks nice04:52
Jucato_Shade_: they're actually planning for a different one04:53
soulrider_Shade_: the purple actually looks really nice04:53
soulriderBRB, gonna try KDE 4 :P04:54
Jucato_Shade_: whatever artwork they choose, it will still be purple :)04:54
Jucatohm.. wonder why soulrider had to logout...04:54
CViruspurple sucks04:54
CViruslime on black rocks04:54
CVirus:-p04:54
Jucatopersonal prefernce :)04:55
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mauro_damn04:55
mauro_i downloaded iover 200 mb04:55
mauro_and it didnt install =/04:55
_Shade_Jucato: it might be purple, I'm glad they will rework the current theme though :)04:55
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mauro__Shade_: yea04:56
Jucato_Shade_: what do you mean "rework" the current theme?04:56
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whizz-my linux used to sit on hdb but is now on hda (easily by replugging the drive to ide-1 and hdb is no longer connected), during boot i got an error about filesystem check not being able to find hdb..04:56
_Shade_polish it a bit, maybe few bits :)04:56
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Jucatowhizz-: you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect the change04:57
_Shade_i think it definetely needs to be polished04:57
Jucato_Shade_: well... :)04:57
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whizz-Jucato: are there besides that (and fstab, since /home is on a hdb2) any other things to change?04:58
Jucatowhizz-: well, yes fstab, too. other than those, I'm not aware of anything else04:58
_Shade_there's also a nice icon set out there... i wonder if they're going to use it in the final release or these are 'by accident' :)04:58
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whizz-Jucato: ok, thx04:58
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Hobbsee_Shade_:05:01
Jucatogreat! it's raining kats and beagles...05:01
Hobbsee_Shade_: which iconset, sorry?05:01
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heinkel_111^_^ eyecandy time again, Jucato?05:02
_Shade_Hobbsee: the one you can find at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas05:02
Jucatoheh05:02
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Jucatohm.. new icons??05:02
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Hobbsee_Shade_: oh the Nuvola ones?05:03
_Shade_yeah05:03
Jucatoheh...05:03
Jucatowhoever took the screenshots wasn't using the default Kubuntu icons :)05:03
abattoir!amarok05:04
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org05:04
abattoirHobbsee, Jucato: could that be changed please?05:04
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Hobbseeabattoir: you can change it :P05:04
_Shade_Jucato: default kubuntu icons = default kde icons i think :)05:04
abattoirHobbsee: doesnt work :(05:04
Hobbsee!no amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org05:05
ubotuI'll remember that, Hobbsee05:05
Hobbseeabattoir: %whois abattoir05:05
Jucatoyes. KDE (and Kubuntu) use Crystal SVG by default05:05
Hobbsee_Shade_: we all use crystal icons05:05
JucatoHobbsee: lol! I think I know who made those screenshots... and those aren't Nuvola... (I think)05:05
halfbloodprinceamarok 1.4.3 is out now05:05
Hobbseehalfbloodprince: yep05:06
HobbseeJucato: they say they are.  *shrugs*05:06
Jucatoah arbiter's screenshots..05:06
Hobbseewell, arbiters ones are05:06
HobbseeJucato: which are you looking at?05:06
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_Shade_well generally i like crystal svg but some of them are not my favorites :) esspecially when it comes to show some device icons05:07
Jucatokwwii's and MHB's (?)05:07
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Jucato_Shade_: unfortunately, Crystal SVG happens to be the most complete icon set, afaik...05:07
Jucatoeven Crystal Clear and GT aren't that complete... I think...05:08
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Jucatobut I wouldn't go for Nuvola right now... since MEPIS is already using that one by default05:09
_Shade_Jucato: have you seen the logout screen idea ?\05:09
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Jucato_Shade_: the plain black one with the metalic Kubuntu logo and name?05:10
_Shade_Jucato: thst's just what i meant05:10
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Jucatoyeah it's nice, but I think they're working on something even better.05:11
_Shade_that's cool... nice to hear that there will be 'something even better' soon :)05:12
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lordkamauHie all!05:13
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lordkamaui've been trying to configure my ubuntu 6.06 to work in dual mode to no avail...05:14
_Shade_once upon a time before dapper has been released i was using suse linux, and there was a possibility to restart your machine going instantly to another os (by clicking and holding the restart button). I'd like to give a feedback on it,,, but where can i do it actually ? ;)05:14
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lordkamaui modified the xorg.conf file inserting listings of the second monitor but it still wont work in dual head mode05:15
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lordkamauare ATI drivers a must for dual monitors?05:16
heinkel_111lordkamau: maybe i can help you, i just got mine working 2 days ago05:16
heinkel_111are you using ATI card?05:16
_Shade_Jucato: i think that there would be great if they'd include a boot loader setup tool as well - it would be usefull05:16
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Jucato_Shade_: heh one at a time :)05:17
heinkel_111lordkamau: I have nvidia, i will not try to advice you too much if you use Ati05:17
lordkamaui dont have ati drivers installed though..05:17
heinkel_111lordkamau: the solution i used was nvidia specific called twinview05:17
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heinkel_111but it stilled required the proprietary driver, i think it does for ati as well05:17
heinkel_111i think it is called fglrx05:18
p0mppuWhat's the file in (k)ubuntu where I can change my LC_CTYPE locale setting?05:18
p0mppuI couldn't find i18n file05:18
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lordkamaui thought all i had to do was modify the xorg.conf file...05:18
_Shade_Jucato: well i think it could be usfull for those who still use windows (are there any) or stuff next to theirs kubuntu05:18
lordkamau<heinkel_111>...i guess i was wrong huh05:19
Jucato_Shade_: I'm not saying it's not  useful. I'm just saying "one at a time". give them time to work on that (or make one, in this case..) :)05:19
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heinkel_111lordkamau:  there is a guide i read, but i did not find all the answers there05:20
lordkamaudo you have a link to it?05:20
heinkel_111yes, looking for it right now :)05:21
lordkamaucool...thanks05:21
Jucatohow to install ATI?05:21
_Shade_well maybe you're right... it's a great distro at all so.....05:21
Jucato!ati05:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:21
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heinkel_111lordkamau: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117405:21
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heinkel_111Jucato: we are dealing with MergedFB05:22
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Jucatoah ok :)05:22
heinkel_111dual head set up05:22
lordkamauthank <heinkel_111> i'll look into it now05:22
stealghi its possible use a palm with linux os ?05:22
_Shade_Jucato: but do i have to be some group member to post an ideas for the further release ? I'm asking because i couldn't recently05:22
heinkel_111warning lordkamau: i had to do some more googling to get the twinview setup correct05:22
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Jucato_Shade_: that I'm not sure of.05:22
heinkel_111do not expect that how-to to be 100%05:22
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stealg:(05:24
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Hawkwindstealg: Very possible05:25
_Shade_ok gtg05:25
_Shade_c ya next time05:25
heinkel_111does someone know where downloaded Superkaramba themes are located by default?05:26
Hawkwindheinkel_111: How and where did you download them from ?05:26
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heinkel_111using the "get new stuff" button05:26
abattoirheinkel_111: got it from Hot new stuff?05:26
abattoirheinkel_111: ok.. look in ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba05:26
heinkel_111merci!05:27
abattoiri'm not french, btw :P05:27
osirismornin planet~!05:27
tyler_dfps = <200 , ati radeon 9600, dual monitor support enabled???05:27
nagyvI would like to use my webcam with kopete (http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20Webcam%20Support), but under the settings it seems recognized but doesn't shows a preview. I get a preview with wengophone, so my system can handle the camera.05:27
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oslobonjour05:28
Snake[Sleep] !wiki05:28
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation05:28
oslocomment faire pour que mon pc fasse reveil matin ???05:29
abattoir!fr05:29
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:29
oslosorry05:29
oslothks05:29
abattoirnagyv: have you tried using it in MSN/Yahoo ?05:29
abattoirnagyv: also, people at #kopete might be of more help :)05:30
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p0mppuOne more about Amarok: this transKode script won't work unless I set my LC_CTYPE to "fi_FI@euro" since some filenames contain scandinavic letters. The problem after that is, I can't type those letters anymore in Konsole (but if I launch irssi from Konsole, it lets me type them?)05:37
p0mppuso how could I make Konsole type those letters and have that LC_CTYPE, or is there some other way?05:37
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p0mpputrying again ->05:40
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halfbloodprincecan anyone tell me if it's possible to use google talk on kubuntu? either the standalone client, or the in-built email thingy05:43
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w1w1t0m1hello, I have started kubuntu and windowmanager can't start ..(i have kde and fluxbox) ..after login and passw entering it displays blask screen for a whilr and then again ask for password ...any ideas????pls05:43
Jucatohalfbloodprince: you can use Kopete with GoogleTalk05:44
halfbloodprinceJucato: thanks05:44
Jucatohalfbloodprince: err.. use GoogleTalk with/in Kopete...05:44
halfbloodprinceyeah, got it :)05:44
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halfbloodprincei remember using gaim some time ago.. and whenever i used to talk to my yahoo contacts using windows, they would always see my font size as huge05:46
halfbloodprinceit was very irritating05:47
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halfbloodprincea lot of people wouldn't talk to me coz of it :p05:47
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Jucato:(05:47
halfbloodprincekopete is cool, right?05:47
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Jucatoit's ok :)05:48
Pensacolahmh, how come I always get low fps in games when I install new applications05:48
JucatoI like it better than GAIM in some ways :)05:48
PensacolaI used to get 80 in supertux now I'm down to 2005:48
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PensacolaI've tried reinstalling the nvidia package but that didn't solve it05:49
HawkwindPensacola: You have your video card drivers installed correctly and running ?05:49
PensacolaI think so yes05:49
Pensacolabut they always seem to get screwed when I install something new :s05:49
HawkwindPensacola: See if you get a 'Yes' to rendering with the following command:  glxinfo | grep render05:49
PensacolaI get a yes05:50
HawkwindHmmm, strange05:50
Pensacolabrb05:50
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maple_how come if I open 2 instances of the same GTK app a third vacant tab for that app will appear in the taskbar with an hourglass saying "loading" for about 10 seconds?05:52
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nagyvfor those interested: I could make  a videocall from kubuntu to a windows XP using wengo beta on my side and the "stable" wengo on the XP05:59
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w1w1t0m1...i have it :))) not ebnough memory on root file system :)06:04
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dittehi06:08
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Jucatohi06:08
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dittehi Jucato06:09
ditteerh, people06:09
dittehow do I unisntall kubuntu?06:09
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Jucatoditte: just format the partition  or install something else (and format the partition while doing that)06:09
dittewell, maybe, before I do something as drastic as that...06:10
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ditte...you may help me with something.06:10
Jucato?06:10
ditteKDE doesn't recognise my root password06:10
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ditteas a consequence, it doesn't update, in fact doesn't even let me change the time06:10
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Jucatoditte: you don't have a root password. since the root account is disabled by default06:11
Pensacolaeven my screensaver gets low fps :s06:11
Jucatowhen it asks for an administrator password, you enter the password of the user that was created during installation06:11
Kiongku:p06:11
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dittejucatu: that's the pronblem...during installation I unwittingly created the user named "root"06:11
Jucatoditte: err....06:11
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Kiongkuo006:12
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ditteand since it didn't let me log in, I had to use the text console to create another user, "ditte"06:12
Jucatoditte: and if you enter the password for that "root" user?06:12
Kiongkucant understand either..06:12
dittejucato: it tells me it's wrong06:12
dittethe console accepts it, though06:12
Jucatoditte: hmm...06:12
Kr4t05ditte: just add the new user to the sudoers group. :P06:12
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ditteI thought I can maybe increase my privileges to admin, dut I dont know how06:13
dittekr4t05: how does one do that??06:13
Jucatoheh... I think this is more than my head can handle right now :)06:13
Pensacolaut2k4 seems to run fine though06:14
Pensacolastrange06:14
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halfbloodprincebrb people06:14
JucatoKr4t05: the sudoers group is adm or admin?06:14
Kr4t05Jucato: One moment.06:15
Jucatoditte: in which "console" are you able to login or do root/adminstrator stuff?06:15
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BonBonTheJonhas anyone set up ubuntu on a RAID?06:15
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dittejucato: you know, the usual black stuff. The terminal06:16
JucatoBonBonTheJon: if you're going to install Kubuntu on RAID, you might want to use the Alternate Install CD06:16
Jucatoditte: yes, but from where? From GRUB's "recovery mode" option?06:16
BonBonTheJonjuc: i have a server install cd06:16
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JucatoBonBonTheJon: ah...06:17
dittejucato: from K --> system06:17
Jucatoditte: ah06:17
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chrismirHi, I'm in the middle of a kubuntu install and it freezes at 'configuring hardware' @ 92% for over 15 minutes now.06:17
chrismirAnyone can give me pointers?06:17
Jucatoditte: so "sudo" works in Konsole, but not when with graphical apps?06:17
dittejucato: exactly06:18
osirisremove that piece of hardware... =)06:18
chrismirwhat piece of hardware :p06:18
chrismirit doesnt say anything06:18
osirisjust kidding06:18
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Jucatoditte: in which user are you logged in? "ditte" or "root"?06:19
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osirisare you installing from the liveCD or the alternate disc ?06:19
LouKallwhat the hell do i use on a rar?06:19
osirisunrar06:19
LouKalldoesnt work, i guess.06:19
LouKallsays command not found.06:19
JucatoLouKall: install the packages named "rar" and "unrar" then you can use Ark on rar files06:19
chrismirLive cd which I got from the mailman :)06:19
Kr4t05LouKall: you need to install unrar from the universe..06:19
osirisso install it LoRez06:19
LouKallokay!06:19
osiriser06:19
LouKallthanks06:19
Jucato!unrar06:19
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free06:19
dittejucato: I'm logged in as ditte, but I su'ed on the console06:19
Jucatoditte: when you sudo in Konsole, who's password do you enter? ditte's or root's?06:20
Pensacolastupid nvidia :s06:20
osirischrismir, might try downloading the alternate, and install from it06:20
dittejucato: so I'm "ditte" for KDE and "root" for the console06:20
Jucatoditte: ah that's the problem, I guess.06:20
MetaMorfoziSedgy comes with kde 4?06:20
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: no06:20
Jucatoditte: have you tried entering "root"06:20
Jucatoerr06:20
dittejucato: but I cannot log in as root to KDE. It says root logins are not allowed06:20
Jucatoditte: have you tried entering "root"'s password in graphical apps...06:21
chrismirosiris: I rather know what is going on. I didn't order the cd's to eventually download something else06:21
Jucatoditte: yeah :)06:21
ditteJucato: I have, it tells me I'm using the wrong password06:21
MetaMorfoziSand do we know when kde 4 is coming?06:21
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: nope....06:21
ditteI also tried the ditte password, and that06:21
dittes wrong too06:21
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: stable will probably next year06:21
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Jucatoditte: ah I guess it's because kdesu will ask for the current user's password, but since ditte isn't part of the sudoer's group, it fails06:22
Kr4t05kernel 3.0 will bring the destruction of earth!06:22
JucatoHawkwind: would you happen to know what's the actual name of the sudoer's group?06:22
chrismirosiris: the live cd booted fine. I'm running konversation with it now. In the background, configurating hardware is waiting at 92%06:22
Kr4t05Jucato: it's admin06:22
JucatoKr4t05: ok thanks :)06:22
dittejucato: ok, we're getting there:) so, is there any way of adding "ditte" to the sudoers group from a command line?06:23
MetaMorfoziSargh06:23
Jucatoditte: yes. "sudo adduser ditte admin"06:23
osirischrismir, i have no idea what hardware you are running, and would have NO idea what piece is freezing it06:23
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chrismirBut is there some way I can see?06:23
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: KDE 4's tech preview will come out sometime in October. but that's probably still Alpha06:24
osirisif it was an install from console, you might be able to go to the logging TTY to see what is going on06:24
mauro_Jucato: have you read the news on kubuntu.org? :P06:24
osirisdont know if the live version loggs to console06:24
MetaMorfoziSokay... ( i saw a very beta version is out for edgy...) on kubuntu.org06:24
chrismirhmm yeah... I'll look06:24
Jucatomauro_: that's not even KDE4 tech preview06:24
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MetaMorfoziSmauro_: that is very beta...06:24
soulrideri know06:24
MetaMorfoziSi don't think that is tech prew06:24
soulridersorry about that other name06:24
Jucatothat's KDE 3.80.1, a development snapshot called Krash06:24
soulriderim using edgy on vmware at the moment :P06:24
Jucatoand yes I've seen it, and have run it06:25
dittejucato: you are currently my favourite guy:)06:25
MetaMorfoziS:)06:25
soulriderah06:25
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Jucatoditte: heh, you have to thank Kr4t05 too06:25
chrismirosiris: nah, nothing on any console06:25
Pensacolajep, the 686 kernel was the problem :)06:25
Jucatoditte: btw, by default, the first user seems to be members of these groups: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin06:25
ditteKr4t05: you share with jucato the gotha of my favourite guys:)06:25
dittejucato: should I add myself to all of them?06:26
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Jucatoditte: yes, if you want to delete that "root" user..06:26
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ditteawch, this will tak a while:)06:26
solemnwarning-ltHow can I prevet kubuntu from underclocking my laptops CPU?06:27
Jucatoditte:  not really, you can use the Users & Groups in System Settings06:27
solemnwarning-ltIt keeps underclocking it from 1.9GHz to 530MHz06:27
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chrismirosiris: last entry in log file06:27
chrismirMissing modules 'ide-core (Linux IDE support), ide-mod (Linux IDE driver), ide-probe-mod (Linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detection)06:27
osirissolemnwarning-lt, i think that is a service you can disable in the services list06:27
osirischrismir, its choking on the ide controler it appears06:28
solemnwarning-ltService name>06:28
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solemnwarning-lt*?06:28
osirissolemnwarning-lt, one moment06:28
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chrismirosiris: I can see that. I wonder why it is choking. Because I have sata drives? can't imagin that06:29
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osirissolemnwarning-lt, i think its powernowd06:29
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solemnwarning-ltOk06:30
solemnwarning-ltThat worked :)06:30
osirischrismir, if you have sata drives, disable the ide in the bios, and try again.  i had issues installing kubuntu to a sata drive once before06:30
dittejucato: oops, I was doing all by hand in the meanwhile:)06:30
Jucatoditte: heh :)06:30
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solemnwarning-ltHow come powerdnow and other CPU scaling apps are deps for kubuntu-desktop?06:30
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solemnwarning-ltI can't remove them06:30
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chrismirosiris: hmm ok, I will try that06:30
dhqhey06:30
dhqkubuntu-desktop: Depends: x-window-system-core but it is not going to be installed06:31
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dhqE: Broken packages06:31
osirischrismir, that might disable the cdrom drives though06:31
chrismirosiris: thx06:31
chrismirhmm06:31
Jucatodhq: what are you trying to do?06:31
chrismirwell... I will try anyway06:31
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chrismirgtg now06:31
dittewow, now I even have the right time of the day06:31
dittehow cool is that:)06:31
Jucatoheh06:31
dhqJucato: well reinstall kubuntu-desktop06:31
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dhqJucato: install kubuntu desktop06:32
osirisanyone here know of a deb for tovid ?06:32
Hawkwindosiris: Why not make one06:32
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osirisTHERE you are06:32
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HawkwindHah, playing around in the Gimp06:33
Jucatodhq: hm... that's strange...06:33
solemnwarning-ltCan I remove powerdnow without removing kubuntu-desktop?06:33
Jucatoheh so that's why he didn't reply to me...06:33
Hawkwindosiris: I'll look at it here in a couple of hours to see if I can build a deb for ya06:33
dhqJucato:  Can't apt-get "x-window-system-core"06:33
osirisyer the man06:33
Jucatodhq: can you pastebin the full errors that you receive? (use pastebin)06:34
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dittegreat....now if only my sound card worked, I'd be a happy and complete linux user:)06:34
dhqJucato: thatst the only error i get06:35
LiveCDuserHey. Just a quick question. If sound works on the Dapper LiveCD, it should work when I upgrade from Breezy, right?06:35
Jucatoditte: did you add yourself to the audio group?06:35
dittejucato: erh, I'm not sure06:35
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Jucatodhq: is it showing you a version number after x-window-system-core ?06:35
phreqI'm having problems with keyborad layouts. I need to use either the US Intl layout or a Spanish layout, but neither seem to work in any KDE applications. These layouts both worked in GNOME, but in Konsole & Konversation I just get ??s or boxes.06:36
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dittejucato: ok, now I'm on it, and it still doesn't work06:36
Jucatohm...06:36
Jucatohow are you testing that sound doesn't work?06:37
dhqJucato: no06:37
LiveCDuserEr, anyone?06:37
dittejucato: I have a big red cross on the image of the speaker:)06:37
Jucatoditte: try logging out and logging in again06:37
solemnwarning-ltHow can I remove packages that kubunu-desktop is dependant on?06:37
ditteok, brb06:37
phreqDoes anyone have ay ideas? :/06:37
Jucatodhq: hmm....06:37
osirisphreq, you could try restarting X after changing the keyboard layout06:38
phreqI'll try, but I kind of need to switch them on the fly.06:39
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dhqwhat do i do06:41
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Jucatowb06:45
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Jucatodhq: I'm not sure what's causing that error, but you can safely leave kubuntu-desktop uninstalled06:45
main2im trying to bind my 'superkey' (windows key) to the 'kde menu'06:45
main2should be possible right?06:45
dittere06:46
dhqJucato: i wnat to install kubuntu desltop06:46
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Jucatoditte: got your sound working?06:46
dittejucato: well, no06:46
Jucatodhq: ah...06:46
dittejucato: the big red cross is gone (thank you), but I still can't hear anything06:46
LouKallwhat do i do if it gives me "end of archive" error message06:46
phreqBe back.06:46
Jucatoditte: how are you checking that there is no sound? (check the volume also)06:47
KiongkuUptime: 3 hours and 9 minutes06:47
Kiongkuhmm06:47
dittejucato: how does one know whether the drivers work? Is there anything corresponding to the "system" of wondoze?06:47
main2it aint possible to bind a win-key to my kde-menu?06:47
Kiongkuwhats the command again for current playing song..06:47
dittejucato: I set all volumes to the max and played a MIDI06:47
dhqhow do i install x-window-system-core broken packages06:47
Kiongkumain2: u can use the win-key06:47
Jucatoditte: err.. of all the things to play :)06:47
Dr_Willismain2,  i though  it was set up that way by default.06:47
Dr_Willisbut i dont have a Win-Key on this box to test06:48
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dittejucato: quickest thing to get on the web:)06:48
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main2Dr_Willis: no its not06:48
Jucatoditte: heh, Kubuntu doesn't have built in support for MIDI and MP306:48
LouKallwhen unrar'ing an archive i get an error message saying "unexpected end of archive" does just mean that my file is shit?06:48
main2the win key has no use on kde normally06:48
Jucatoditte: no need to grab a CD06:48
main2but it looks like i can only bind it to two keys..06:48
JucatoLouKall: yes, I tink so06:48
main2damn unhandy06:48
osirisLouKall, watch the language, and yes, sounds like a corrupt file06:49
Kiongkulol06:49
dittejucato: it's playing it with AmaroK. Shows the wave patterns 'n all06:49
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ditteonly I don't hear squat06:49
LouKalldammit.06:49
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Jucatomain2: you can use Win+Space to launch the K Menu. but basically the Win key is called a Modifier key, like Shift, control, and alt06:49
Dr_WillisJucato,  yea thats it. :P a meta key.06:49
Jucatoditte: what are you trying to play in Amarok?06:49
dittejucato: the MIDI06:50
KiongkuJucato: yo.. know hwo to display current song playing in amarok on irc?06:50
dittejucato: and it looks like it's playing it, too06:50
Jucatoditte: I told you, there's no built in support for MIDI....06:50
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JucatoKiongku: /media but use is sparingly, and not in this channel...06:50
dittejucato: but it *acts* as if it's playing06:50
ditteit's clearly reading a stream06:51
ditteok...here comes the dumb question06:51
Jucatoditte: *sigh* again, it won't play MIDI's....06:51
dittehow do I get a CD out?06:51
Jucatoditte: in your home folder, there's a folder named example-content06:51
KiongkuJucato: hehe k06:51
main2 umount /dev/drivename ..06:51
osiriseject /media/cdrom06:51
Jucatothat's not a proper way to get a cd out main206:51
lackdianthi!! is it safer to use edgy repositories? where can I find them06:51
main2then press the drive-button...06:51
main2Jucato: im using it for years.. no problems with it :P06:52
Jucatolackdiant:  no, at least not for regular/normal day-to-day use06:52
Jucatomain2: like I said, not a proper way. doesn't mean it doesn't work06:52
Hawkwindlackdiant: Not unless you are a developer really06:52
lackdiantnot the case :-)06:52
dittejucato: ok, I'm trying to play a .ogg from there06:52
main2Jucato: im quite sure some distro's / other *nixes dont even have 'eject'06:52
Jucatoditte: try playing one of the sample audio files in the example-content folder in your Home folder06:52
lackdiantwill kubuntu 6.10 use blubuntu?06:53
Hawkwindlackdiant: Then stick with Dapper which is stable and meant for desktop use.06:53
Jucatolackdiant: no06:53
Hawkwindlackdiant: No06:53
Hawkwindlackdiant: KDE in Edgy is Purple now06:53
KiongkuHmm.. how are we supposed to remove a cd then?..06:53
Jucatothat's why it's called Kubuntu... the K is KDE06:53
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lackdiantI'd seen blubuntu and I like it! but purple.....06:53
ditteerh, tells me I don't have access06:53
JucatoKiongku: just press the eject botton06:53
KiongkuJucato: lol.06:53
Hawkwindlackdiant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot2/Kubuntu06:53
Dr_WillisPornuntu! :p06:53
Jucatoditte: what tells you don't have access?06:53
Hawkwindlackdiant: You can see screenshots there06:53
KiongkuDr_Willis: bah..06:53
dittewait a minute...is there a group one has to be to access CD roms?06:53
dittejucato: the CD06:54
tfanHello :) How can I change the size of my desktop icons?06:54
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lackdiantcan anyone change that wallpaper?06:54
Jucatoditte: can we resolve one issue at a time?06:54
lackdianthehehehe06:54
lackdiantit's terrible!06:54
Jucatolackdiant: you can, after it's installed06:54
lackdiantyeah, i know06:54
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Dr_WillisHeh - that "Ubuntu hacks" book details how to customize the live cd.06:54
dittejucato: okok, I'll use the .ogg06:54
Jucatoditte: :P06:55
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dittejucato: ok, same thing with "Ubuntu sax": it shows me the music animation, but *I don't hear anything06:56
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Jucatoditte: ok well at least we know that it's either a driver or hardware problem.. now on to the CD...06:56
dittejucato: if it didn't recognise the sound card, it would tell me, wouldn't it?06:56
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dhq_help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301106:56
dittejucato: ok...pressing the eject button don't work, if you were asking me whether I had tried that:)06:56
Jucatoditte: do you see a CD icon on your desktop? right-click on it and select Eject06:57
Jucatobut under normal circumstances, the eject button should work...06:57
KiongkuJucato: i think should really unmount before ejecting06:57
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JucatoKiongku: no, because it automatically does that...06:57
Jucatoit's automounted, like most removable media are06:58
KiongkuJucato: hmm dang.. may be mine wrong..06:58
dittejucto: done: it doesn06:58
ditte't care06:58
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Jucatoditte: what do you mean it doesn't care?06:59
Jucatoditte: oh, better close amarok if you used it play a file from the CD06:59
dittejucato: oh, ok, if you first tell it to eject and *then* press the eject button, then it works:)07:00
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dittethanks again:)07:00
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ditteC07:00
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ditteCD07:00
Jucato:)07:00
dittejucato: turns out I don't have the right to see the CD:)07:02
Jucato O_O07:02
ditteI have to add myself to some group to do that, no doubt07:03
Jucatoditte: is the ditter user part of the cdrom group?07:03
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main2ditte is a famous danish girlname isnt it?07:04
main2could anyone recommend me a good mail client, kubu comes with a kde one..?07:05
dittemain: yea, it's fairly common here07:05
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Kiongkuoh danish ._.07:05
Kiongkumain2: no idea.. me i use thunderbird :p07:06
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Jucatokubuntu comes with KMail07:06
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Jucatoyou can launch Kmail in Kontact07:06
RawSewageI use KMail07:06
dittere *sigh*07:07
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KiongkuJucato: u use kmail?07:07
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JucatoKiongku: yes. but in a very basic way...07:07
MenZamain2: I don't know if it's famous.. but it's definitely Danish.07:07
RawSewageJucato, there is07:07
Jucatohaven't had time to play around with it...07:07
KiongkuJucato: .. thunderbird works with gmail very well..07:07
JucatoRawSewage: really? even ones that have been read already?07:07
RawSewageJucato, yes07:07
main2ditte: a girl i worked with here in amsterdam had the same name07:07
JucatoRawSewage: do share please :)07:07
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RawSewageJucato, you just have to retrieve it a few times07:08
main2but it was the first time that i heard that name, so i was more or less guessing..07:08
RawSewageJucato, I downloaded a few years worth07:08
main2(she was danish as well yes)07:08
KiongkuRawSewage: wow..07:08
RawSewagewhat07:08
dittemain2: there's a lot of us:)07:08
JucatoRawSewage: retrieve it a vew times? how? please do tell... please? :)07:08
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RawSewageJucato, you know about Google setting to retrieve it all, right?07:09
main2ditte: there's a lot of nice girls in denmark yes07:09
main2:o07:09
RawSewageLet me go to GMail and look07:09
dittejucato: all right, now I have a nice animation of Bach's violin sonata, and still can't hear squat07:09
RawSewageBach is good07:09
Jucatoditte: from the CD?07:09
main2ditte: i think most scandics are 'cool' anyway ;)07:09
dittejucato: yup07:09
notechopen a mixer and check volumes?07:09
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RawSewageJucato, in GMail, you go to Forwarding and POP of Settings07:11
Jucatoditte: probably really a driver issue...07:11
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RawSewageJucato, in POP Download, the setting for  Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)07:11
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Jucatooooh07:12
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main2awwww shit, i've installed quite some things on my kububox using07:15
main2sudo installername, instead of sudo -u myname installername07:15
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main2ffs.. ive been playing too much with root accounts yes07:15
Jucato!automatix07:16
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:16
dhq_help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301107:16
main2thanks Jucato07:16
Kr4t05Bah07:17
Jucatoerr.. sorry main2, that wasn't for you...07:17
Jucato:(07:17
Kr4t05No one is alive in #xgl. Can anyone help me here?07:17
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RawSewagedhq_, maybe because youre using outside packages07:17
RawSewagedhq_, isnt what you need in the repos?07:17
dhq_no07:17
dhq_RawSewage: well i am using all the repos only07:18
RawSewagesudo dpkg -i /home/dhq/x-window-system-core_7.0.23_all.deb07:18
Jucatodhq_: could you please pastebin your sources.list as well?07:18
RawSewageyoure using an outside .deb07:18
Kr4t05cgwd isn't working, for some reason. I think it might be the command I'm using to start it.07:18
dhq_RawSewage: i was getting broken packages then i downloaded the deb file07:19
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RawSewageoh07:19
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dhq_RawSewage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301207:22
JucatoRawSewage: thanks a lot! I can't believe I missed that option...07:22
RawSewageJucato, ok07:22
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RawSewagedhq_, I dont know.  Jucato wanted to see that07:23
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dhq_Jucato: : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301207:24
madmonkhi all!!!07:24
Jucatodhq_: reading it...07:24
madmonkI've got a big urgent problem!!!07:24
dhq_okies07:24
madmonkI'm on kubuntu dapper07:24
madmonkjust bought an ipod nano07:24
madmonktrying to make it work...07:25
madmonkbut I gave a wrong command07:25
Dr_WillisDid you keep the reciept? :P07:25
madmonksudo mount -t vfat [cut] ..07:25
madmonkit's not vfat!!!07:25
madmonkit's hfsplus i guess..07:26
madmonknow I can't umount it!!!!07:26
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madmonkalso fuser -k /dev/sda2 doesn't work!!!07:26
madmonkplease can anyone help me??07:26
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madmonkHELP!!!07:27
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Dr_Willisand umount says?07:28
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madmonkdevice is occupied07:28
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Dr_Willischeck dmesg output also.07:28
madmonkbusy07:28
madmonkok07:28
Dr_Willistry lsof /dev/sda207:28
Dr_Willis That thing has 2 partitions on it?07:29
Jucatodhq_: I can't seem to understand  why it won't install. have you tried installing libgl1-mesa-dri (apt-get)?07:29
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madmonkr u talkin about ipod?07:29
madmonkpartitions?07:29
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dhq_yes07:29
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Dr_Willisif your ipod is showing up at --> /dev/sda2   that imples theres 2 partitions on it.07:29
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Dr_Willisor else they are doing somthing VERy weird07:30
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Jucatodhq_: what error message did you get?07:30
madmonkcan i paste the output?07:30
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Jucatomadmonk: use pastebin07:30
Jucato!pastebin07:30
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:30
madmonkok07:30
madmonkwhat "name" am i supposed to send to??07:31
dhq_Jucato: broken pakages07:31
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Jucatodhq_: pastebin again :)07:31
madmonkin the pastebin...what is "name"???07:32
Jucatomadmonk: the "name" is any subject/title you would want to be used (so you can search for it later)07:32
madmonka ko! :)07:32
Jucatomadmonk: then when you send it, give the URL of the page07:32
dhq_Jucato: give me a sec07:32
madmonkdone07:32
Jucatodhq_: sure07:32
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madmonkhow the hell can I umount it?!?!?!07:33
Jucatomadmonk: show Dr_Willis the link/web page address07:33
DHGEmadmonk: try umount -l07:33
madmonkok07:33
madmonkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301407:33
Dr_Willisuse lsof and see whats accessing it.. then kill those processes07:33
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madmonkdone!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:35
madmonkthank u very much!!07:35
Dr_Willisthe kill them deader then dead! :P07:35
Dr_WillisThen kick them again!07:35
madmonk:)07:35
Dr_Willisthen reboot 100 and 1 times.. :P07:35
Dr_WillisOh wait - thats for windows07:35
unclemikeHawkwind: im trying to do your Sos deb packages..where it say Enabling SoS deb package repos.../ect/apt/sources.list file as root/sudo... i keep getingPermission denied07:36
Jucatolol07:36
JucatoHawkwind: ooh.. a customer :007:36
madmonkmy ipod is still sayng "don't disconnect" ...07:36
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dhq_Jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301507:36
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Hawkwindunclemike: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list07:37
ubuntu_ubntu fr hepl my07:37
madmonkguess i'm gonna reboot...hoping it won't freeze..07:37
Hawkwindunclemike: Replace kwrite with your favorite editor of choice07:37
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HawkwindJucato: He's been a customer of mine for about 2 years now :P07:37
Jucatolol07:37
ubuntu_where is kubuntu fr07:38
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Jucato!fr07:38
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:38
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|lostbyte|!fr07:38
Hawkwindubotu: #Kubuntu-FR07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Kubuntu-FR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
jajahello guys07:38
HawkwindBahhh07:39
|lostbyte|Hi jaja07:39
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Hawkwindubuntu_: #Kubuntu-FR07:39
|lostbyte|Hawkwind, Hi.07:39
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ubuntu_thank you07:39
heinkel_111!fr07:39
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:39
HawkwindHey there |lostbyte|07:39
Jucatodhq_: can you try disabling seveas' and PLF's repositories?07:39
jajaanyone in London here?07:39
HawkwindJucato: I gotta run an errand.  I'll be back in an hour or so07:39
|lostbyte|dhq_, Hi :)07:39
JucatoHawkwind: nooooh!07:39
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dhq_|lostbyte|: hey07:39
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dhq_Jucato: still the same07:40
Jucatodhq_: err.. did you "sudo apt-get update" after you disabled them?07:40
unclemikeHawkwind: so the kdesu will open it as root07:40
dhq_yes07:41
Jucatounclemike: yes07:41
unclemikeok thanks07:41
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jajaI think switching from windows has been a very good decision for me..07:41
dhq_Jucato: still the same07:41
Jucatodhq_: ok I'm really, really baffled... what error does installing libgl1-mesa give you? (just the one line)07:41
|lostbyte|jaja, You can say that agian..07:41
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dhq_ libgl1-mesa-dri: Depends: libgl1-mesa (= 6.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed07:42
jajamy system has been so stable and..07:42
RawSewageand virus free07:42
Jucatodhq_: no, libgl1-mesa, not libgl1-mesa-dri07:42
magical_trevskycan anyone recommend me a decent all-in-one printer/scanner dealie that'll work nicely in kubuntu?07:42
jajaIthanks, and virus free07:43
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RawSewageCUPS ?07:43
RawSewageoh07:43
RawSewagenm07:43
tyler_dstill with the frame rate thing... removed the fglrx driver and it resolved it? any ideas why the driver is not working on my machine? I need it in order to get my tv hooked up??07:43
jajathe only thing I miss about windows are the games I uesd to play07:43
JucatoRawSewage: I still can't thank you enough... I feel so stpd for missing that option... :)07:43
dhq_Jucato:07:43
dhq_The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:43
dhq_  libgl1-mesa-dri: Depends: libgl1-mesa (= 6.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed07:43
Dr_Willismagical_trevsky,  my old HP 1200C works.. but egads the ink cost is nasty07:44
Jucatodhq_: err.. I said, try installing libgl1-mesa (sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa)07:44
|lostbyte|dhq_, apt-get install -f07:44
|lostbyte|dhq_, and then try ?07:44
Jucatoor try what |lostbyte| said... I'm running out of ideas..07:44
Jucato @_@07:44
dhq_libgl1-mesa is already the newest version.07:44
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RawSewageJucato, youve helped me enough times07:45
Jucatoheh07:45
RawSewageYou might have to retrieve it a few times though07:45
Jucatodhq_: this is also driving me nuts... :(07:45
|lostbyte|Jucato, dont  you think dep issues are related to out of distro package installation ?07:45
RawSewageI dont think it gets it all at once07:45
JucatoRawSewage: well, it's donwloading around 300 e-mails now...07:45
RawSewageok07:46
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dhq_Jucato: |lostbyte| !easysource is there any other places i can get repos07:46
JucatoRawSewage: is it going to duplicate some e-mails?07:46
dhq_!easysource07:46
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:46
|lostbyte|dhq_, Thats a good source.07:46
RawSewageJucato, I dont know07:46
Jucato|lostbyte|: I dunno... I checked his sources.list, they seem fine... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301207:47
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Jucatodhq_: did you try |lostbyte|'s suggestion? apt-get install -f ?07:47
|lostbyte|Jucato, i mean, installing a package from debain.. or something ? downloading a deb file for example..07:47
dhq_yes07:47
Jucato|lostbyte|: ah.. it could be...07:48
|lostbyte|dhq_, Still the same error ?07:48
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Jucatodhq_: and sudo dpkg --configure -a ?07:48
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|lostbyte|dhq_, If you can track back if  you installed a deb file. pls do remove it.07:49
dhq_okies but i dont quite remember installanin any07:50
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|lostbyte|dhq_, I remmber you asking me..07:50
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dhq_wat bout07:51
Jucatook I think it's time for me to sleep..07:51
Jucatogood night/day people! :)07:52
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|lostbyte|Jucato, Goodnight :)07:53
|lostbyte|dhq_, Remmber before you used to install by download deb files ?07:53
dhq_yes that was when i first installed drapper07:53
dhq_thats like in the first month07:53
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|lostbyte|dhq_, Whats the last thing you reconfigured ?07:55
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dhq_well i installed xgl and then uninstalled it07:55
link_36pCan anyone help me repair my apt-get?07:55
link_36pits totally shot ;(07:56
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|lostbyte|!ask07:56
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:56
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|lostbyte|link_36p, ^^07:57
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link_36pWhen i run synaptic no pakcage listing will appear07:57
link_36pAnd apt-get upgrade wont upgrade anything.07:57
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abattoirlink_36p: what error does apt-get give ?07:57
|lostbyte|dhq_, Comment your compiz and other repos your not using. and update and try again..07:57
link_36phttp://pastebin.ca/16525707:57
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link_36pIt all happend when i tried to install edv version of looking glass, it says i need to reinstall that package but when i try to it gives me more erros.07:58
link_36pdev*07:58
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|lostbyte|link_36p, apt-get install --reinstall lg3d-core07:59
abattoirlink_36p: did you add any external repositories for it?07:59
|lostbyte|with sudo07:59
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link_36psame error lostbyte08:01
|lostbyte|dhq_, your not on x at the moment ?08:01
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gert_hy08:01
link_36p<abattoir> i downloaded debs08:01
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stocker7410Hey08:01
dhq_i am on startx08:01
gert_who are you?08:01
|lostbyte|dhq_, kde ?08:01
stocker7410How do i install GIT from "http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/"08:02
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dhq_you08:03
dhq_yup08:03
link_36pKnow one knows how i can fix apt-get? :(08:03
gert_I've got no music from internet. help!!!!!!!!108:03
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dhq_|lostbyte|: brb08:03
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|lostbyte|k08:03
zenith37how do I get adept to show ALL packages?08:03
|lostbyte|zenith37, it shows all my default08:04
gert_alt f208:04
zenith37it does not...08:04
zenith37it shows only KDE and desktop apps08:04
|lostbyte|zenith37, THen i belive you dont have the repos.08:05
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link_36plosetbyte - is there a way to force remove a package?08:05
gert_type adept08:05
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|lostbyte|!repos > zenith3708:05
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gert_zijn er nederlanders?08:06
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zenith37thanks08:06
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|lostbyte|link_36p, wont it remove it normally ?08:08
|lostbyte|link_36p, errors ?08:08
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r4gthelp my08:08
r4gtmy fr08:08
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BonBonTheJonhow do I install a network card that is recognized by lspci, but the installer didn't install it08:08
draikHello everyone08:08
r4gtmy novice linux kubuntu08:09
gert_hoi08:09
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r4gthelp my08:09
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gert_what's the problem08:10
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r4gtmy fr08:10
|lostbyte|:)08:10
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r4gt!!08:10
DaveyJi currently have KDE and gnome installed.. how do i do a full switch to kubuntu by default?08:10
|lostbyte|!fr08:10
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:10
halfbloodprincehey people08:10
pepe>_<08:10
|lostbyte|r4gt, ^^08:10
r4gtok thank you08:10
|lostbyte|halfbloodprince, hi..08:10
halfbloodprincehey |lostbyte|08:10
|lostbyte|gert_, lol, just wanted the channel. :)08:10
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link_36plostbyte -  it gives the exact same error with "sudo apt-get remove lg3d-core"08:11
gert_eh..........sorry08:11
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|lostbyte|link_36p, could you paste bin the error ?08:11
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dhq|lostbyte|: back08:12
|lostbyte|dhq, So, Is it fixed ?08:12
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zenith37|lostbyte|: apt-get sees it, Adept does not08:12
zenith37for example, apache208:12
zenith37also libraries and such08:13
andi__can somebody give me the apache2 in sudo commands ?08:13
|lostbyte|zenith37, click on update in adept. that is weird.08:13
gert_waardeloos is dit08:13
zenith37What update?08:14
zenith37there's no menu or button...08:14
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link_36plostbyte - http://pastebin.ca/16527508:14
|lostbyte|zenith37, "fetch update"08:15
zenith37|lostbyte|: nothing...08:15
|lostbyte|:O08:15
zenith37...with that label08:15
|lostbyte|OMG is it adept, check :)08:15
zenith37there's a search at the top, categories at the left, packages in the middle, etc08:16
DaveyJanyone?!08:17
zenith37ahh apparently there are two differnt adepts :O08:17
zenith37found it08:17
zenith37thanks08:17
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|lostbyte|zenith37, settings > show toolbar08:17
|lostbyte|:)08:17
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link_36plostbyte - did u look at the error? :o08:17
risingENDAlright, nobody at Samba responds to me.. so can someone here help me set it up?08:17
steveireDaveyJ: look for aysiu on ubuntuforums. There's a post on his site about it.08:18
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|lostbyte|link_36p, yes, and i am stund. just refering.. hold08:18
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DaveyJ=] 08:19
risingENDCome on, just help me please. -_-08:19
LeeJunFanRiddell: perhaps you'd know the answer to this one? Do you know a way to get kde/hal to mount external drives like flashdrives in sync mode instead of async so my library users aren't removing unsynced filesystems right after hitting "Safely Remove"?08:19
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|lostbyte|link_36p, dpkg --configure -a08:19
|lostbyte|and try again..08:20
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risingENDAnybody here use Samba?08:20
risingEND!samba08:21
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:21
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|lostbyte|LeeJunFan, /etc/fstab add sync to the options..08:22
RiddellLeeJunFan: I thought they were in sync mode08:23
LeeJunFan|lostbyte|: yeah, I know, these are dynamic devices though, w/o entries in fstab and considering the variables of sd[x] [n]  I'd rather just have the default be that kde mount them all in sync.08:24
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LeeJunFanRiddell: ah, it appears mine is with 3.5.4, maybe 3.5.3 wasnt.08:24
LeeJunFanerr 3.5.2 - whatever came with dapper.08:25
DaveyJi'm an idiot08:26
DaveyJi cant find this post anywhere08:26
LeeJunFanRiddell: okay, well nevermind. Maybe I just need to update the library. Thanks.08:26
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BonBonTheJonwhat package contains drivers for network cards08:27
|lostbyte|AFK08:27
llxcamxll_make[1] : *** [debugi386/ref_gl/r_bloom.o]  Error 108:27
llxcamxll_what does that shit mean??08:27
halfbloodprincehahaha08:27
llxcamxll_help me out08:28
llxcamxll_i'm not worthy08:28
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llxcamxll_anyone08:28
llxcamxll_ok then08:29
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BonBonTheJonllx: I googled and error 1 means a dependency is not met08:30
llxcamxll_hmm08:30
llxcamxll_k08:30
BonBonTheJonsorry i can't help more08:30
llxcamxll_thats cool08:31
halfbloodprincewhat's giving that error08:31
llxcamxll_using make command08:31
halfbloodprincefor which application08:31
llxcamxll_some alien game08:32
halfbloodprinceah08:32
llxcamxll_ah what08:32
llxcamxll_tell me08:32
halfbloodprinceah = okay08:32
halfbloodprincedid you get it off the game's site or something08:33
llxcamxll_yeah08:33
halfbloodprincemaybe that site has a faq for this stuff08:33
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llxcamxll_ok, cool08:33
obf213sometiems when i bootup i have know sound, do i have to reboot to get sound back, because that seems to be the only thing that has worked for me. but w/e linux you "should never have to reboot" or w/e.08:34
halfbloodprincebtw, can anyone tell me if the helix player is any good08:34
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lotusleafhalfbloodprince: it does what it says it does08:35
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enzo_What's a good video capture app? I want to record some things I do with kubuntu and play them back for reference08:35
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halfbloodprincelotusleaf: have you tried real player for linux?08:36
halfbloodprinceis the sound quality better than that of amarok?08:36
lotusleafhalfbloodprince: it's closed source and generally I avoid using closed source ;)08:36
lotusleafhalfbloodprince: though helix is another matter08:37
RawSewageenzo_, ScreenKast ?08:37
RawSewageenzo_, nm, not in repos08:38
HawkwindRawSewage: I have screenkast on my SoS repo actually08:40
HawkwindRawSewage: http://SeerOfSouls.com/ubuntu.html08:40
RawSewageenzo_, you can try it.  they have Dapper package;  http://instrudeo.bpower2.com/packages/ubuntu-dapper/08:40
ironfroggyim having trouble. screen updates are horribly slow in all programs. flash, video playing, even scrolling a web page gives a horrible flicker as i can watch the update blitting.08:40
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RawSewageHawkwind, you made a repo?08:41
ironfroggywhat could i possible look at to improve that? its not that my hardware sucks, because ive had much better performance here before.08:41
HawkwindRawSewage: Yes.  I have E17 in my repo which is why I started it08:41
RawSewagewhats E1708:41
HawkwindRawSewage: SoS is the largest 3rd party rpm repo for Mandriva currently08:41
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RawSewagecool08:41
HawkwindRawSewage: Enlightenment-DR17.....enlightenment.org or get-e.org for more info08:41
RawSewageenzo_, are you even listening08:41
ironfroggyis there any X configuration i could look into that could make these things more responsive?08:41
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enzo_yes08:42
enzo_I'm at the site08:42
RawSewageIve never tried it08:42
Hawkwindenzo_: screenkast is in my contrib repo08:42
RawSewageHawkwind, have you tried it08:42
HawkwindRawSewage: Tis all I run is E1708:42
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HawkwindRawSewage: I won't use any other wm :P08:42
RawSewageoh08:42
RawSewageEnlightenment08:43
enzo_Which do you recommend?08:43
HawkwindNo, quite different from enlightenment as you know enlightenment08:43
Hawkwindenzo_: Which what ?08:43
pureDevianceHmm, what software do you recon I should add to my Kubuntu Installation?08:43
enzo_nevermind08:43
enzo_I was looking at something else and got confused08:44
enzo_sorry08:44
HawkwindpureDeviance: Depends on what *you* want08:44
Hawkwindenzo_: Heh, no problem08:44
pureDeviance:|08:44
pureDevianceIs there a faster loading word prossesor?08:45
RawSewageI use KWrite08:45
HawkwindpureDeviance: Faster than what ?08:45
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halfbloodprincehow is xmms08:45
weas3lhey Hawkwind... thanks for the help the other day... kubuntu is up and running08:45
RawSewageIm not sure what exactly KWrite is08:45
RawSewagehalfbloodprince, it's like WinAmp08:45
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Hawkwindweas3l: No problem.  Glad to have been of help08:46
RawSewageXMMS is good08:46
lotusleafhalfbloodprince: try it and see :)08:46
halfbloodprinceRawSewage: how is the sound quality08:46
Hawkwindhalfbloodprince: It's nice, but there are others that are good, like banshee08:46
RawSewagesounds fine to me08:46
RawSewageI use amarok too08:46
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Hawkwindhalfbloodprince: banshee sends what you play to last.fm as you can see here:  http://last.fm/user/Hawk-wind08:46
lotusleafxmms is nice for low overhead08:46
halfbloodprincedoes amarok sound better or xmms08:46
RawSewageno idea08:46
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Hawkwindhalfbloodprince: It's always best to try several apps and see what *you* like best08:47
RawSewageit all sounds the same to me08:47
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halfbloodprince:) thanks guys08:47
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enzo_Hawkwind, I got the Beginning Ubuntu Linux: From Novice to Professional08:48
enzo_book08:48
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BonBonTheJonwhere can i find a driver for pcnet32 card08:52
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weas3lwhere would i be able to find xmms packages for the player itself?08:55
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RawSewagesudo apt-get install xmms08:56
main2!packages08:56
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!08:56
main2!repository08:56
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:56
main2^^ for you weas3l08:56
weas3lyou guys rock <308:56
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pureDeviance!help08:57
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:57
weas3li'm trying to use the gui adept package manager, and searching for xmms returns all the plugins, but not the player :S08:57
pureDeviance!adept08:57
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto08:57
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pureDeviance!kde08:57
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE08:57
pureDeviance!gnome08:57
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.08:57
seth|awayplease don't abuse the bot.08:57
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seth|awayif you want to see what it has to say, private message it08:58
pureDevianceok08:58
main2yeah... well, we can ban him right away as well :)09:00
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seth|away list09:01
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weas3lso... if i have superuser access to my system, i don't really need sudo, do i?09:02
weas3li just need apt-get?09:02
main2!root09:03
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:03
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main2working as root is dangerous, if you dont know what ur doing09:03
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weas3lyeah, but if i have root already, i don't really need to worry about running programs w/ superuser privileges as a user09:04
main2weas3l: no but if you wanne install something for urself09:04
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main2and you login as root or sudo for it..09:04
weas3lah, without having to su... i gotcha.09:04
main2NO YOU DONT09:04
halfbloodprincesee you later people09:04
weas3lyeah, thats what i'm saying.09:05
weas3lyou don't su09:05
main2then the programs files will have the root permissions09:05
main2no, and you dont login as root either09:05
voicuHi, is there a simple C/C++ IDE for KDE? I don't want to use KDevelop or Anjuta because they work at a different level. I want something light.09:05
main2you do: sudo -u myusername programnametoexecute09:05
voicuSomething that edits, compiles and runs my programs.09:05
weas3lah, so when you say sudo aptget install... i should be putting in sudo -u username apt-get install?09:06
pureDevianceIs there a PHP server I can install on my PC? Like an xamp for Linux?09:06
voicuweas3l: usually you shouldn't login or use the shells as the superuser. I always type sudo for each command09:07
weas3lah09:07
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voicuand main2 is right, when you do use the superuser to create files or something you won't be able to access them with your normal user09:07
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main2ive installed a number of things (like games) using sudo09:09
main2but type: sudo whoami09:09
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main2in a shell, and let your brains think.. -> see what i mean weas3l?09:09
pepeor click right on nick and whois09:09
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main2pepe: ?09:10
pepe?09:10
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voicupepe, he was refering to the shell09:10
voicui.e. $sudo whoami09:10
weas3li... see...09:10
weas3lah09:10
pepesry i'm not in topic >_<09:10
main2now i have to sudo gamename everytime i wanne play.. and its executed under the root account..09:11
pepei'm gonna mute :x09:11
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weas3land so when it asks for a password?09:11
main2thats crap.., so believe me weas3l09:11
main2if you wanne install something for urself use: sudo -u username bin-name09:11
weas3lah, so when you say sudo aptget install... i should be putting in sudo -u username apt-get install?09:11
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main2for apt-get, just use 'sudo apt-get install'09:12
voicunoo09:12
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weas3lwerd09:12
DaveyJwhat's the kde equiv to gnome's "sessions" where i can have things autostart09:12
main2for systemstuff use normal sudo...09:12
weas3lsince... *reads the man file* i'm not going from one group to another?09:12
main2the systems stuff is not on your user-permissions.....................09:12
voicuweas3l, sudo -u username is when you compile programs from source or something like that09:12
weas3lk09:12
main2DaveyJ: in /home/username/.kde/Autostart :)09:12
Chousukewhy would you use sudo when compiling? :/09:13
main2you shouldnt have to09:13
lotusleaf./configure && make && sudo make install09:13
lotusleafor ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall09:14
voicui was thinking about something else...09:14
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weas3lhey main2...09:14
weas3lv09:14
Dannilion__Anyone know a way of getting rid of the flash sound delays in Konqueror?09:14
weas3lsudo apt-get install xmms09:14
weas3lE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:14
weas3lE: Unable to lock09:14
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voicuSoo, anyone knows a lightweight C/C++ IDE (for KDE if possible)?09:15
main2weas3l: 'Resource temporarily unavailable' looks like the server is down?09:15
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weas3lor used by another program?09:16
main2weas3l: i dont know a lot about repositories09:16
voicuweas3l, you probably have an instance of adept, aptitude or whatever started09:16
main2but this might happen if you dont have the 'multiverse' repository in your sources.list ?09:16
weas3lyeah, i looked at my taskbar and just saw it09:16
voicuif not you must kill the nonresponsive process09:16
main2ahhh ok09:16
main2voicu: might be better to reask ur question in #linux and #ubuntu09:17
weas3li forgot i was getting flash player installed...09:17
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voicuok, i'm going to do that09:17
main2because there might be more people reading it..09:17
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ahmenivoicu: I don't think there's anything that's between kate and kdevelop in terms of complexity :(09:18
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voicuahmeni, well i need just something that edits (with highligthing), compiles and runs the programs09:20
graham_hi all09:20
voicuKDevelop has to many buttons :P09:20
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graham_is there an irc channel for a complete noob like me09:22
voicu#kubuntu :D09:22
weas3lyeah, i started,,, like, yesterday09:22
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graham_cool.. though i dont want to annoy people with really really noob questions :)09:22
weas3lkubuntu was really easy to install i found... and thses peoples here seem to know their stuff.09:23
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voicuhonestly, I didn't always get answers to my questions but I kept trying, it's worth it09:23
weas3ljust need to know who to direct questions to.09:23
graham_it was easy to install.. im using it and ive used then adept and installed various software.. its really cool software09:24
weas3lindeed.09:24
voicuweas3l: yep, something like that09:24
graham_im trying to get the nvidia drivers on but having trouble09:24
weas3li'm contimplating moving my *shudder* windows box over to my tv and using it just for movies and video...09:24
voicuI'm windows free for quite a long time now and except for some casual games I don't miss any functionality09:25
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The_Stephan__hilfe09:25
voicugraham_, what part doesn't work?09:25
weas3lwell, i got a good sized tv, so i still could game on it... i'm just getting back into linux after like, a year and a bit away from it ;S09:25
The_Stephan__ich hab web java paket also das programm installiert unter linux geht auch aber wie geht das nun im browser09:25
NthDegree!de09:26
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:26
llxcamxll_can we run half life under kubuntu??09:26
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green[fenix] !mp309:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:26
graham_well i need to do ctrl-alt-f1 and run it from there but i cannot logon with my username and password? it wont let me in that way09:26
NthDegreeThe_Stephan__: go to #ubuntu-de09:26
The_Stephan__thx09:27
The_Stephan__sorry09:27
NthDegreeThe_Stephan__: ich nicht spreche deutche :)09:27
The_Stephan__the was wrong channel09:27
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voicugraham_: run what?09:27
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voicuand it should let you logon in the console09:28
llxcamxll_this error 1 shit blows09:28
NthDegreeThe_Stephan__: if you can understand english try an ubuntu howto on installing java in firefox/konqueror :)09:28
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The_Stephan__yes09:29
graham_the nvidia package.. it says do ctrl alt f1 and run the envy script but i have to log on first09:29
weas3loh right, java... totally forgot that...09:29
voicugraham_, you can open up a console. hit ALT+F2 and type konsole09:30
voicuthen use 'sudo envy'09:30
weas3lheh.09:30
weas3lpsuedo envy...09:30
graham_thansk voicu. does the envy script need to be downloaded to anywhere specific to run it?09:30
graham_it says command not found09:31
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voicuyou should be working in the directory where you downloaded the package09:32
voicuwas it an archive?09:32
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lotusleafshould a floppy device normally have to be added manually into /etc/fstab? I thought I saw it there in Breezy but now in Dapper it's not listed at all09:34
voicumaybe it didn't recognize it but that would be even more weird09:34
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MiDcan anybody help me with this error message when trying to (re)install kwin? : ** (process:15499): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed09:35
lotusleafvoicu: was that to me? if so, I've noticed this on several systems09:35
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voiculotusleaf: yes, but it was just a thought. mine for example was listed with the installation09:36
lotusleafvoicu: thanks :) interesting, I guess I'll have to add it manually, thanks for relating your experience.09:37
voicunp09:37
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BonBonTheJonwhere are network card drivers located09:39
sethnetwork card support is built into the kernel09:40
BlissexBonBonTheJon: over there. Second shelf left.09:40
BonBonTheJonseth: I have a card that is identified in lspci but the installer didnt install drivers for it09:40
Blissexseth: I find it hard to answer seriously a question that vague from a nick like <BonBonTheJon> :-)09:41
BlissexBonBonTheJon: but I can try. it is extremely unlikely that you have an unsupported card.09:41
LynoureBonBonTheJon: in there kernel module directory, see   lsmod  for what you have loaded now09:41
BlissexBonBonTheJon: just about all know chipsets are supported by standard drivers. If your chipset is not, then things become pretty awkward.09:42
BonBonTheJonok,  I have an entry for pcnet32, which is the chipset09:42
BlissexBonBonTheJon: so what does 'lspci | grep Ethernet' say?09:42
BonBonTheJonnothing09:43
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BonBonTheJonI'm using ubuntu server09:43
BonBonTheJonwhich shouldn't matter09:43
slow-motionhallo09:43
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BlissexBonBonTheJon: if it says nothing then it is not there...09:44
BlissexBonBonTheJon: anyhow there is some information on the PCNET32 style chipsets here: http://www.faqs.org/docs/ethernet/Ethernet-HOWTO-4.html09:44
BonBonTheJongoing there now09:45
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BlissexBonBonTheJon: it is a driver for *very* old chipsets. So perhaps the driver in the kernel has been disabled. You can buy a new Ethernet card with a recent chipet for like $5.09:46
BonBonTheJonYeah, I probably should just do that09:46
BonBonTheJonits served me well for so long09:47
lotusleafvoicu: floppy is listed in /dev/ but not in fstab :) odd, eh09:47
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banana21hey anyone know a good graphical ftp server?09:48
banana21for kubuntu09:48
BonBonTheJonblis: when I put in the new card, will it automatically install the drivers, or what will i need to do09:48
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voiculotusleaf, the floppy is always listed in /dev. actually every kind of device is listed in /dev, just that the system will only use those that are configured09:49
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lotusleafvoicu: yeah, when I try to use the floppy it works but it's just not listed in fstab, perhaps ubuntu is psychic09:49
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BlissexBonBonTheJon: if it is a recent card, it is fully automatic.09:50
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BonBonTheJongood09:51
BlissexBonBonTheJon: note that however if the AMD chipset card you have does not appear in 'lspci' it is a hw problem, unless it is an ISA card.09:51
BonBonTheJonblis: it shows up in lspci09:51
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Sannehi09:52
BonBonTheJonand lsmod | grep pcnet32  returns 2 entries09:52
BlissexBonBonTheJon: paste here the line.09:52
Infectohello can some one tell me how to change a chanell wchih one is managed by sound buttons in laptops from master to pcm09:52
weas3largh! stupid flash not jibing with firefox...09:52
BlissexBonBonTheJon: paste here the line from 'lspci'09:52
weas3looo, kids in the hall. *distracted*09:52
InfectoI have to change the PCM slider09:52
Infectoi want to :)09:52
BonBonTheJonits on another computer but it says:      pcnet32                     33540  009:52
Blissexlotusleaf: there is a program that mounts stuff in the background09:53
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BlissexBonBonTheJon: thats the driver. Not the card.09:53
BlissexBonBonTheJon: run 'lspci | grep Ethernet' on the other computer...09:53
BonBonTheJonblis: nothing09:53
lotusleafBlissex: the all knowing, all caring HAL seems quite active09:54
VegetaDoes anyone know how a Digital Signatur can be installed on linux?09:54
BlissexVegeta: yes.09:54
voiculotusleaf, you might be right. i'm going to stop thinking while in ubuntu :D09:54
lotusleafhald, rather09:54
lotusleafvoicu: ;)09:54
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BlissexBonBonTheJon: paste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ the full output of 'lspci' run on the PC that is supposed to have that card.09:55
BonBonTheJoni can't i don't have network connection09:55
VegetaBlissex: How? My Firefox says that it doesn't know how to open the page...09:56
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BlissexVegeta: that's a different question! :-)09:56
shadowr3dhello everyone09:57
VegetaBlissex: Hehe why? You said that you knew :P09:57
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BlissexVegeta: probably you want to import a digital certificate into a browner, not add a digital signature to Linux. And I said only that yes, someone knows. :-)09:57
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BlissexVegeta: so describe your goal a bit better.09:57
BlissexBonBonTheJon: wait a sec.09:58
sethInfecto, right-click KMix icon -> select Master Channel -> PCM09:58
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shadowr3dhow can i the kubuntu booting when it says like "starting hp printing" and stuff like that when you boot up kubuntu?09:58
shadowr3dhow can i change* sorry09:58
BlissexBonBonTheJon: what does this print: lspci | egrep -v 'USB|ISA|audio|VGA|IDE|Host|bridge|storage'09:59
shadowr3dhow can i change the kubuntu booting when it says like "starting hp printing" and stuff like that when you boot up kubuntu?09:59
VegetaWell I have a html file which was a security copy of the digital signatur, that I first installed on windows xp. NOw I want it on Linux. On windows the installation would start when pressed at the html file.09:59
VegetaIs this something you're familiar with Blissex?09:59
BlissexVegeta: that is nearly incomprehensible. Describe your goal, not what you are trying to do.10:00
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VegetaBlissex: What do you mean? My goal is to install my old Digital Signatur.10:00
BlissexBonBonTheJon: and also: are you sure your ethernet card is a PCI one?10:00
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BlissexVegeta: nom your goal is to do something with that Digital Signatur, whatever you mean by that. There are very many types of ''digital signatures''.10:01
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BlissexVegeta: literally taken, what you are asking is how to add an X.504 certificate to the IPCSEC subsystem in the kernel. I doubt your mean that.10:02
nil_hello, world ;-)10:02
shadowr3dhow can i change the kubuntu booting when it says like "starting hp printing" and stuff like that when you boot up kubuntu?10:02
VegetaBlissex: Well there are many thing I can do with that. Like login into some places with my personal information, and smilar..10:02
BonBonTheJonbliss: I assume its pci if lspci sees it10:03
shadowr3dhow can i change the kubuntu booting when it says like "starting hp printing" and stuff like that when you boot up kubuntu?10:03
VegetaBlissex: Nahh I don't mean such complicated stuff, I'm a linux newbie.10:03
BlissexBonBonTheJon: then try to type by hand the line in 'lspci' where you say it is listed. Because if it is an Ethernet card that line should contain 'Ethernet'...10:04
BluDog_Anchoriteshadowr3d: you can stop some of those services in the services list inside of systemssettings10:05
BlissexVegeta: and which program are you using to do that login?10:05
nil_I am new to Ubuntu and I need your help. I'd like to install java (jre). I tried to install it but the install stopped and my database got locked. I guess it was something to do with the licence agreement...I could not see where to agree...10:05
BluDog_Anchorite!java > nil_10:05
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nil_oh, database is already unlocked...10:06
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VegetaOn Win XP, i didn't need a specifik program to login.10:06
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BlissexVegeta: are you trying to import a certificate into Firefox to access some websites that require authentication from HTTP clients?10:06
BlissexVegeta: to login to what? In what way?10:06
nil_what is the name of the package ?10:06
BluDog_Anchoritenil_: read the wiki10:07
BluDog_Anchoriteit explains how to do it, and what to do about the lisence10:07
Vegetahttps://isis.ku.dk/passport/login.aspx?returnurl=https%3a%2f%2fisis.ku.dk%2fkurser%2fppLoginReciever.aspx&sender=http%3a%2f%2fisis.ku.dk%2fkurser%2fadmin%2findex.aspx <-- Like here10:07
Infectoseth: i`m not so stupid i made this and dont work10:07
shadowr3dhow can i change the kubuntu booting when it says like "starting hp printing" and stuff like that when you boot up kubuntu?10:07
VegetaUnder: Login vha. digital signatur <-- You can login with Digital Signatur.10:07
nil_ok, thanks.10:07
BluDog_Anchoriteshadowr3d: did you miss my answer>?10:08
BonBonTheJonbliss: there in no entry for ethernet10:08
shadowr3dyes i did10:09
shadowr3dim sorry10:09
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VegetaBlissex: Do you see what I mean now?10:09
BonBonTheJonbliss: but lspci | grep "pcnet32" returns "pcnet32             33540 0" and "mii                   7040 1 pcnet32"10:10
BlissexBonBonTheJon: that is quite impossible because those are the lines that 'lsmod' returns.10:10
BonBonTheJonbliss: yeah, sorry10:10
BlissexBonBonTheJon: the lines returned by 'lspci' look like:10:11
Blissexbase# lspci | egrep -v 'USB|ISA|audio|VGA|IDE|Host|bridge|storage'10:11
Blissex00:13.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)10:11
Blissex02:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 IEEE-1394 Controller (Link)10:11
nil_it seems the packages were still there...so no need to download them again...they're installed...Thanks, BlueDog...10:11
BlissexBonBonTheJon: so run 'lspci | grep Ethernet' instead of 'lsmod | grep pcnet32'10:11
shadowr3dbludog??10:12
BonBonTheJonbliss: lspci returns "0000:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]  79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE]  (rev 25)10:12
BlissexVegeta: I have no idea what "Login vha" means.10:12
VegetaMeans: Login with Digital Signatur.10:12
BlissexVegeta: but in which program?10:12
BlissexBonBonTheJon: so contrarily to what you said the card is there. And probably working.10:12
BlissexBonBonTheJon: what happens if you say 'ip link ls'?10:13
BonBonTheJonbliss: but ifconfig only has lo10:13
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shadowr3dbludog how can i change the kubuntu booting when it says like "starting hp printing" and stuff like that when you boot up kubuntu and i dont mean the splash screen like it says kde is up and running10:13
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BlissexBonBonTheJon: that only means that it is not configured, not missing.10:13
VegetaBlissex: I don't know which program it uses. But it seems that I can acces it trhough the terminal. I opened the html file from the terminal and the error I had before didn't occure, so it will be installing now. :D10:14
BonBonTheJonbliss: ok, how do i configure it10:14
BlissexBonBonTheJon: what does 'ip link ls eth0' say?10:14
BluDog_Anchoriteshadowr3d: you disable those from the services menu inside of the system settings manager10:14
shadowr3dhow10:14
BluDog_Anchoritetype systemsettings in a terminal10:14
BonBonTheJonbliss: Device "eth0" does not exist10:14
BlissexBonBonTheJon: and 'ip link ls'?10:14
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BluDog_Anchoriteon the bottom line it says services10:15
shadowr3di mean i want a different one like the ones you download10:15
shadowr3dok10:15
BluDog_Anchoriteyou want to change the boot splash10:15
shadowr3dyes10:15
shadowr3dplease10:15
BonBonTheJonbliss: 'ip link ls' returns two entries: lo and sit010:15
BluDog_Anchoritethats a totally different question10:15
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shadowr3do ok10:15
RawSewageHow can I verify a DVD burn.  k3b verifying seems to be broken in Edgy10:15
BluDog_Anchoritenot sure.  never trie dto do it with kubuntu10:15
RawSewageis there a tool that can verify a burn?10:15
BlissexBonBonTheJon: that is not good.10:16
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BluDog_AnchoriteRawSewage: if you have a md5 of the original, try running md5sum on the disc10:16
BonBonTheJonbliss: what would that indicate10:16
RawSewageBluDog_Anchorite, ok thx.  how do I get that sum10:16
shadowr3dbecause i dont want it to say kubuntu i want the one i downloaded from the web kdelooks.org or something like that10:16
BluDog_AnchoriteRawSewage: run md5sum on the source file if you have it10:16
BlissexBonBonTheJon: try 'sudo rmmod pcnet32' and after that 'sudo modprobe pcnet32;10:16
RawSewageBluDog_Anchorite, cool thx10:16
BonBonTheJonbliss: ok done10:17
BlissexBonBonTheJon: 'ip link ls' again10:18
BonBonTheJonbliss: same10:18
BlissexBonBonTheJon: have a look at last 20-30 lines of the output of 'dmesg' and of the file '/var/log/messages'10:18
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shadowr3dhow can i change the song when kde starts up?10:19
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BonBonTheJonblisss: dmesg has "PCI: Found IRQ 12 for device 0000:00:11.0" and "pcnet32: PCnet version 0xfff1, no PCnet32 chip."10:20
BonBonTheJonbliss: /var/log/messages says the same things10:20
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shadowr3dnevermind i know how kool10:21
BlissexBonBonTheJon: good, interesting "no PCnet32 chip".10:21
BonBonTheJonyeah10:21
BlissexBonBonTheJon: because it is a Lance, not a PCNET32. It must be *very* old. Check this: http://www.faqs.org/docs/ethernet/Ethernet-HOWTO-4.html#lance10:22
BlissexBonBonTheJon: but then it says it is the PCNET32 version of the LANCE. So it should work.10:23
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BonBonTheJonbliss: thanks for your help, I think I will just spend the $15 to buy a new card I know wil work10:23
nil_Do I need to create a symlink after jre is installed ?10:24
BlissexBonBonTheJon: thats better because the "AMD 79C970" says the Boca version has bugs, and perhaps that's what you got10:24
BlissexBonBonTheJon: as in: "the Boca implementation of the 79C970 fails on fast Pentium machines"10:24
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BluDog_Anchoriteshadowr3d: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto10:26
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BonBonTheJonbliss: so any new ethernet card will work?10:26
shadowr3dthanks bludog ill try it10:27
BluDog_Anchoritehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7729010:27
BluDog_Anchoritethat one too10:27
shadowr3dok10:27
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danishwhen using vmplayer we can still add/remove programs to virtual machine10:30
marc__in ubuntu how to you add something to startup such as nfsmount ...rc-update does not work?10:30
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dittehi10:36
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nil_it seems jre is not working...10:37
ditteanyone knows of a partitioning utility that works with Kubuntu?10:37
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shadowr3dbludog i couldnt do it im a newbie so could you help me10:38
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suihi10:41
dittehi sui10:41
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sui<< just looking in, no problems till now with my new installation :)10:42
suikubuntu on a thinkpad is very "smart"10:42
dittesui: it's my first time on Linux, and I'm getting a new respect for Microsoft:)10:43
ditteI hope it's a temporary phenomenon10:43
suirespect for MS? why this?10:43
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BluDog_Anchoriteshadowr3d: im at work now, so i cant take up any project like that.  i have never done one myself10:44
sethditte, qtparted10:44
shadowr3do10:44
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BluDog_Anchoritesorry10:44
shadowr3dwhat ya working at10:44
BluDog_Anchoritei do tech support for a voip company10:45
shadowr3dnah thats fine i understand10:45
shadowr3dooo10:45
shadowr3dfancy10:45
shadowr3dwhats voip10:45
dittesui: put it like this: up to now, I haven't been able to install a single program that wasn't in Adept, to make my printer work, or to even see how my HDD is partitioned10:45
BluDog_Anchoritevoice over IP10:45
dittethanks seth10:45
shadowr3do10:45
shadowr3dok10:45
shadowr3dback to work then huh10:45
sethditte, you shouldn't need to install stuff that isn't in adept, really10:45
sethwhat kind of printer?10:45
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shadowr3danyone else know how to change the bootsplash at the start of kubuntu?10:46
ditteseth: well, I'd like at least Sylpheed and Opera10:46
dittepossibly rosegarden10:46
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ditteseth: it's a banal HP 920C10:46
dittekubuntu recognises it, but when installing it, it gives me some hogwash, and I'm back to square one10:47
suiditte: have you ever used a konsole-based prog? take a look at your sources.list and add new repositories and type apt-get update10:47
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sethditte, open add/remove programs (not adept), and check the "commercial software" box10:47
sethopera will show up10:47
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dittesui: I installed this stuff htis afternoon, I doubt they have updated in the last 3 hours:)10:47
jagerdoes kubuntu seem particualrly crash prone to you guys lately?10:48
sethditte, rosegarden is in universe. You will need to add the Universe repositories and it'll be there10:48
jagerseems like it likes to hard lock more often than usual10:48
lotusleafjager: no10:48
lotusleafjager: what in particular seems crashy to you and what version are you using?10:48
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ditteseth: still can't find Opera10:49
ditteuniverse, eh?10:50
jagerhard locks quite a bit, often while playing music in amarok but not always10:50
jagerthis is dapper 6.0610:50
hack124x768Hello all. Does anyone here know how to install kubuntu from and NFS share. I don't have accessto a CD burner and want to try edgy.10:50
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lotusleafjager: have you filed a bug report?10:51
lotusleafjager: I've always experienced random crashes in AmaroK10:51
lotusleafjager: though I must say the past few versions have improved ;)10:51
shadowr3danyone else know how to change the bootsplash at the start of kubuntu?10:51
hack124x768I know there is a howto for the bootsplash somewhere, i'll see if I can find it.10:52
sethditte, open a terminal for me10:52
sethkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:52
seth^ run that10:52
larson9999i was locking up like crazy using a mobo with an embedded ati x200 graphics card.  took it back for a similar model with nvidia and all is fine10:53
sethditte, you'll find 4 lines that look like URLs and have the word "universe" at the end. Remove the "#" from the beginning of each of those lines.10:53
sethditte, also, paste this line at the end of the file:10:53
sethdeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main10:53
ditteseth: says X Error, failed to open device10:53
seththat's fine, it should still pop up a password window10:53
sether... you're running KDE right now, aren't you?10:54
suiseth: contains "universe" commercial software?10:54
sethnot just from the console?10:54
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sethsui, no. Universe contains unsupported software.10:54
sethdeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main << contains commerical software10:54
shadowr3danyone else know how to change the bootsplash at the start of kubuntu?10:54
ditteseth: erh, actually, aside from the error message and the fact thatthe shell is now stuck, nothing happened10:54
suiseth: ok, i will add this10:54
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hack124x768shadowr3d: im looking for a howto still10:55
shadowr3dyou to10:55
sethditte, that's rather weird10:55
sethCTRL+C to "unstick" the console10:55
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ditteoh right, I should have remembered that from the UNIX times:)10:55
sethuse "sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list" instead then10:56
sethit'll use a console-based text editor10:56
shadowr3dhack124x768:10:56
suivim ;)10:56
sethsui, sudoedit uses nano by default, since it uses $EDITOR10:57
haully_how to put res. 1280x1024 if the max in menu is 1024x768? editing xorg.conf?10:57
sethhaully_, yes10:57
sethsudoedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:57
ditteok, now I get something that looks a lot like vi opening an empty file10:57
haully_hm ok, thx10:57
sethditte, are you sure you typed the filename correctly?10:57
seth /etc/apt/sources.list10:57
shadowr3danyone else know how to change the bootsplash at the start of kubuntu?10:57
suiseth: nano is (was) my editor till, now but i found a nice tutorial on the web for vim10:58
ditteseth: yup, that's the string10:58
hack124x768shadowr3d: try this url https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto10:58
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shadowr3dok10:58
suiand i have to remember that this ist ubuntu, not a gentoo chan ;)10:58
shadowr3dwait hack i tried that its to confusing10:59
dittepeople...is the AMD64 version stable?10:59
shadowr3ddo you know how10:59
ditteI have the impression that this is screwed up beyond my obvious incompetence10:59
hack124x768shadowr3d: then you're kinda bummin. Its isn't meant to be changed, so it's going to be a little time consuming.11:00
hack124x768shadowr3d: You could look for other ones people ahve already made.11:00
shadowr3di did and i downloaded it but i dont know how to change it11:01
ditteand why does bloody qtparted try to connect to X server :0.0?11:01
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hack124x768shadowr3d: where did you get it from?11:01
dittedoes the K stand for "Kafka"?11:01
suiditte: because its a X-application11:01
shadowr3di think it was kdelooks.org11:01
shadowr3dor something like that11:01
suiwhat do o have to do to get dvds working?11:02
hack124x768shadowr3d: kde-look.org, its a good site, im looking at it now...11:02
suis/o/I/11:02
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shadowr3dIt was KDE-look.org11:02
shadowr3dyes11:02
shadowr3dthat one11:02
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hack124x768sui: sudo apt-get libdvdcss i believe.11:02
sethhack124x768, not in Ubuntu's repos11:02
sethyou can do that if you add the plf repo11:03
suihack124x768: no libdvdcss isn'T available11:03
suihave to look on the web for that repo11:04
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dittesui: to sum it up: if I open qtparted as root, it doesn't work, if I open it as ditte, it doesn't do anything because I'm not root11:04
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shadowr3ddid you find anything hack11:05
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suiditte: thats weird, but i suppose the root-user isn't allowed to connect the x-server11:05
dittesui: is this standard in kubuntu??11:06
suiditte: try "xhost +localhost" as user and "export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0" as root11:06
suiditte: then start qtparted11:06
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dittesui: ok, now it got the shell stuck and nothing happened11:08
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suiditte: do you get an error message?11:08
dittesui: nope11:08
dittesiui: oh yes, I do now11:08
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dittesui: " cannot connect to X server localhost:0.0"11:09
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suiditte: the solution i posted some lines above should fix this problem o_O11:09
drnooneanyone have a Compro VideoMate TV Card Remote Control working on Dapper?11:10
dittesui: if you mean the export display, I did that11:10
drnooneI don't know how to load event interface suport11:10
suiditte: and the user who started the xserver accepts connections... weird11:11
shadowr3danyone else know how to change the bootsplash at the start of kubuntu?11:11
dittesui: this is the seventh "weird" I hear in a day. I think I'll change linux distribution11:12
ditteanything you can advise for AMD64?11:12
suiditte: sry, normaly that should work11:12
main2kubuntu6411:12
main2:+11:12
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ditteI'm on kubuntu64 now. Doesn't work11:12
main2kubutun roxx0rs ur b0xxors brother..11:12
main2oops, sorry girl..11:12
suiditte: oh, you won't ask me. i'm very familiar with gentoo and like this distri very much11:13
dittechrist, I used VAX'es which gave fewer problems11:13
main2ditte: if ur on 64.. then you should use a 64bit linux distro yes..11:13
main2ive used a 64bit distro on my turion64(laptop).. its lightning fast11:13
ditteoh, fast it is fast11:13
main2(i used slamd64, but thats not official - and i DO NOT recommend you to use it)11:14
dittegives me error messages at an enviable rate11:14
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main2ditte, if you used vax'es - then u must be old :P11:14
main2you used vms?11:14
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dittemain: well, let's say my university didn't believe in updating hardware that much:)11:16
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main2=)11:17
larson9999i'm thinking you should use 32bit if you have an amd64 unless you don't mind some work ahead11:17
VegetaHow can I close an Adept application? Because I can't acces the "Add/Remove Programs" or Synaptic, because it says that some Adept Application is running. How do I know whta it is and kill it?11:18
dittelarson9999: is the distribution buggy?11:18
main2larson9999: i disagree - why use 32bit, if there are 64bit distro's which are WAY faster11:18
main2unless you have a 'band' (am i saying that right;) with the distro11:18
larson9999ditte: well, reading about it, i don't hear anything that makes me want to try.  all i read about is heartache and pain at this point11:18
larson9999main2 which 64bit distro do you recommend?11:19
main2ditte: you tried kubuntu64?11:19
main2if its buggy - give Ubuntu64 a spin..11:19
dittelarson9999: well, you can add my heartaches and pains...I think I'll be off to windows until they come out with something that works11:19
main2you can always install KDE on it :P11:19
dittemain: I *am* on kubuntu64, I insist11:20
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llxcamxlldragon ball z11:20
alessandrohallo11:20
srdjantooh kubuntu has a 64 bit build?11:20
main2larson9999: gentoo?11:20
ditteit sucks like nothing I've ever tried since a mid-90's distribution of Mandrake which generally didn't even make it through installation11:20
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main2just use a official 64bit distro, no 'homebrewn' thingies.... .......... ;)11:21
alessandrowho could help me how to find and install filezilla su ubuntu?11:21
main2ditte: why dont you try ubuntu64?11:21
larson9999main2: gentoo is painful enough for someone swithing from windows11:21
dittemain2: I sort of like KDE...besides, it's the same thing just with a different front11:21
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dittegoign to have the same bugs11:22
main2http://www.klid.dk/homeftp/ubuntu-cd/6.06/11:22
main2can you name some of the bugs ur running up to?11:22
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dittewell, good night people...I'll see you in 6 months or so when they come out with a stable version11:22
dittethanks for the help, however11:23
Ash-FoxIf you want to run kubuntu on hardware without problems, then buy the right hardware. http://system76.com/11:23
main2hahahaha =)11:23
VegetaWhy can I now acces the Synaptic or Add/Remove Programs? It says another process is using the package system. How can I see wich process it is and kill it?11:23
Ash-Fox(As a example of a company that sells hardware tha works under Linux properly)11:23
alessandrofilezilla ?11:23
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ditteAsh: yeah right, I'm going to buy a PC which doesn't tell you how much RAM it has, and then run on it an OS that takes 700 Mb just to stay alive...smart idea11:24
Ash-Foxditte, don't know what you're talking about. I can see the specifications just fine.11:25
ditteAsh: well, you can customize it, but I think the basic version had 512 Mb11:25
alessandrohow can I enjoy an Italian chat?11:25
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Ash-FoxAnd the OS it self comes fully with software so you don't need to hunt down and install later, unlike windows installations.11:26
dittethat isn't enough for kubuntu by a long shot, imho11:26
Ash-FoxI ran kubuntu on a system that had 256MB ram until recently11:26
Ash-FoxI don't see the problem?11:26
alessandroa11:26
Ash-Fox(It won't slow, unless I had OOo open in the background)11:26
ditteAsh: my RAM manager says I'm using 700 Mb, and I'm only running IRC11:26
main2well11:27
sniffy96is there a way to determine what package a file was installed from?11:27
dittewell, anyhow, I'm off to bed11:27
main2then you need to ctrl+escape11:27
Ash-Foxditte, and?11:27
main2show all processes - and find out what leaks11:27
main2ffs.. you give up way to quickly :O11:27
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dittewell, anyhow. Off to bed I am. See you at the next stable release, if ever11:27
sui<< afk11:27
main2bye bye girl, one day ull learn it - im sure.11:28
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Ash-FoxWindows uses swap always, no matter how much ram you have, unless you specifically disable swap space, but even then windows will create a temporary one in the temp directory.11:28
main2miranda_: o_O11:28
main2another danish girl.. make my day11:28
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Frederickfolks does anyone here by any chance uses imagemagick?11:37
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lotusleafFrederick: what is your question?11:38
Fredericklotusleaf, I'm having a major head ache to make this -> http://www.imagemagick.org/script/magick-wand.php work on my box11:38
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Fredericklotusleaf, where you sucessful?11:40
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intelikeykmidi is erroring with /dev/sequencer can't be opened, probably in use.   do you recon there nay be a module i need to load ?11:44
triadeanybody can tell me how i can get apt-get to do a "fuzzy" search..when I dont know the exact name?11:44
triadecant find it in man or --help11:44
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intelikeytriade apt-get doesn't search.  apt-cache search searches11:44
triadeintelikey: huh???11:45
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triadeintelikey: hang on got that....just a sec11:45
intelikeyapt-cache search blah   &&  sudo apt-get install blah's-exact.name11:46
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intelikeyif you make apt-cache any fuzzer you'll have to shave it to read it.11:47
triadeintelikey: looks like I'll have to do that11:49
intelikeyi think i found the module... tty24 [root@~]  modprobe snd-seq-midi11:49
intelikeytriade pipe it through less.11:49
intelikeythen use the search feature in less.11:49
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triadeintelikey: tried apt-cache search build ... that was too much11:49
intelikeybuild-essential11:50
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intelikey!b-e11:50
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:50
triadeintelikey: tried apt-cache search build|grep utils ...even that's too much :-(11:50
intelikeyor use the switch in apt-cache to restrict the search to the package names rather than the name and info11:51
triadeintelikey: got that....thanks.11:53
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intelikeywhat's the differance in   echo '' > blah    and  :>blah   ?11:53
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triadeintelikey: you asking me?11:54
intelikeyanyone11:55
intelikeyi think i got it tho   echo -e "\c" > blah1 == :>blah2  != echo '' > blah3      blah1&2 are empty while blah3 has a \n in it.11:56
triadeintelikey: the first one opens the shell waiting for input.11:56
intelikeyoobivously you didn't get all the quotation marks the same.11:57
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triadeintelikey: you lost me there...wotyer trying todo?12:00
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intelikeyecho -e "\c" > blah112:00
intelikey:>blah212:00
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intelikeyecho '' > blah312:00
intelikeyls -l12:00
intelikeythat's the way to test that ^12:01
JFreakCapohello everybody, anybody can help me, my wireless led don't turn on when set on the wireless card of my notbook12:01
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gnuranteJFreakCapo: it's a driver problem... i think!12:02
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intelikeytriade so if you(I) need an epmty file :>filename  but if you need an epmty file with a carrage return use echo '' > filename12:03
JFreakCapobut the wireless works perfectly, just that the led never turn on, the bluetoth led yes turn on (and off) ...12:03
intelikeyi was trying to figure out why they used both under different circumstances12:03
tookwhat is going wrong here? https://1stein.blinkenarea.org/lldrv/12:04
tookwhat is going wrong here? https://1stein.blinkenarea.org/lldrv/12:04
tookroot@kubuntu23:~/Blinken/lldrv# make12:04
tookmake default_2.612:04
tookmake[1] : Entering directory `/home/took/Blinken/lldrv'12:04
tookmake -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/took/Blinken/lldrv modules12:04
tookmake: Entering an unknown directory12:04
tookmake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Schluss.12:04
tookmake: Leaving an unknown directory12:05
tookmake[1] : *** [default_2.6]  Fehler 212:05
tookmake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/took/Blinken/lldrv'12:05
tookmake: *** [default]  Fehler 212:05
tookroot@kubuntu23:~/Blinken/lldrv#12:05
tookkernesource and build-essentials are installed...12:05
triadeintelikey: right....got that! now you got me wondering. :-P12:05
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intelikeytook looks like no symlink in the modules dir12:05
tookto where to they have to point to?12:06
triadeintelikey: did you try printf as well?12:06
intelikeyln -s /your/source/dir(inturpteted) /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build12:06
intelikeytook ^12:06
tooks/where to/where do/112:07
intelikeytriade no hadn't but didn't notice printf in the code i was looking at12:07
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