=== kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955D59.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Konversation] === guilhermee [n=glhrm@20151044016.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-89-221.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-89-221.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === estebanvidal [n=esteban@190.46.206.126] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === estebanvidal [n=esteban@190.46.206.126] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] === huwshimi [n=huw@ppp111-57.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [07:08] ping === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-68-95-246-24.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:45] hi all === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-028-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:46] troy_s: hi brother ! === PingunZ [n=kristof@160.183-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:48] ping Seveas: I upgraded this morning, no new usplash yet ? === bersace is now known as bersace|lunch === PingunZ pokes Seveas *poke* *poke* [11:59] Is the ubuntu-usplash theme uploaded // can we start using it // how ? [11:59] yes it is uploaded [11:59] don't know about build status yet [12:01] What package should I download , once its in the repo's === bersace|lunch is now known as bersace === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54957624.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54957624.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PingunZ is now known as zengunz === zengunz is now known as PingunZ === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-029-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === exs [n=exs@81-179-146-201.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:14] ping === Chipzz [i=chipzz@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:27] people, no offense meant, but the new gnome splash screen totally sucks [05:28] yep [05:28] it is in a state of flux [05:28] 17:22 < Chipzz> and some people do have other backgrounds than the standard brown, so it is *NOT* ok to have semi-anti-aliassed corners half part of the splash [05:28] I have a blue background, and the brown corners are like a sore [05:28] Well let's see... [05:29] Changing the splash is as easy as changing the wallpaper. [05:29] 2) It is completely unpolished, so expect once things get more settled, those little details will be repaired. [05:29] It's not a terribly easy item. [05:30] luckily I don't reboot very often ;) [05:30] Ditto. [05:30] the old splash didn't have the problem with the corners? [05:30] No, [05:30] the problem is that the source images for the dump were in 8 bit alpha [05:30] and gdm splashes only support 1 bit alpha [05:30] so that all needs to be trimmed. [05:30] etc. [05:30] <_ion> It would be nice if all the occurances of the word "ubuntu" were e.g. white instead of black against a darkish brown background. [05:31] _ion indeed, but to maintain consistency with the previous versions, black was mandated. [05:31] ok, so [05:31] Chipzz so to sort out the corners is a simple adjustment. [05:31] is the default gnome splash still shipped anywhere? [05:31] It is easy enough to pull up. [05:32] I think that will work better with my background anyway :) [05:32] <_ion> /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-smooth.png *rules*, and it's white. :-) [05:32] let me look _ion [05:32] -- Talking about splashes, I need someone to create a basic background image for splashes. ( like gnome, openoffice, screem, gimp, xara,... ). I'll do the text and some logo's. I just need a background image. [05:33] _ion, do you have a link to it? [05:34] <_ion> troy: http://johan.kiviniemi.name/tmp/ubuntu-smooth === alejandro [n=alejandr@kde/developer/alejandro] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:35] Eek, is that the current splash ? [05:35] <_ion> No. [05:35] PingunZ - no [05:36] Ah ok :) [05:36] hrrm damn [05:36] anyways, the lsplash will see the most adjustment in the near future [05:36] I thought this was gonna be the new gnome (upstream) splash [05:36] http://oskuro.net/blogpics/gnome-two-sixteen.jpg [05:36] or something alike [05:36] Chipzz: I was in the team who made that splash [05:36] don't know much about upstream [05:37] but it doesn't apply to ubuntu [05:37] PingunZ: the ubuntu splash or the upstream splash? [05:37] Chipzz: There is a bigger and better version if want so ? [05:37] PingunZ: is that actually a splash screen, or more some kind of banner? [05:37] gnome.org splash -> two-point-sixteen [05:37] chipzz so hang in there re the splash. [05:37] err .. its a banner ;) [05:38] PingunZ: and there is no splash screen variant I presume? :S [05:38] Chipzz: http://www.gnome.org/img/flash/two-sixteen.png [05:38] I'll see if I can find the source images [05:39] PingunZ: to be usable as a splash screen I guess it would need to be wider and taller too [05:39] Chipzz: Its large enough [05:39] taller to accomodate space for the icons of metacity and gnome-panel etc [05:40] PingunZ: btw, I really your work on that - great job! :) [05:40] blue is a little dated no? [05:41] Chipzz: I didn't make it, I just helped making it === n7cee [n=bog@162.42.122.197] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [05:41] aqua, xp, etc. [05:41] Chipzz: I can't find the source images, sorry .. [05:41] troy_s: I have the gnome glassfoot background image, and gdm theme, so that would work perfect for me :) [05:41] But feel free to edit the image and make a splash of it ;) [05:42] alas, I'm really bad with graphics ; and without the gimp source files, I really doubt I could make much of it :/ [05:43] chipzz gnome-look probably has a plethora of images in blue for you. [05:43] yeah [05:43] greetings n7cee [05:43] PingunZ: do you know anyone who might have them? [05:43] hello [05:44] Chipzz: Try gnome-look.org [05:44] or you could join Gimpnet -> #marketing [05:44] and ask for the source files [05:45] Or gimpnet -> #gnome-art [05:45] the channel has been busier of late. [05:45] hey n7cee [05:45] troy_s: This channel ? Indeed :) [05:45] That's good right ? [05:47] one would think. [05:48] troy_s: What do you mean ? You prefer this channel to be more silent ? [05:48] no, i think it is great that more people have been popping by. [05:49] Ah ;) I didn't understand you :) [05:50] Btw, Do you know if the ubuntu-usplash-theme is in the repo's yet ? [05:55] which one [05:57] anyway, === Chipzz gone again === Chipzz [i=chipzz@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] [06:14] troy_s: wasn't se veas ( don't want to ping him ) working on it yesterday ? [06:16] oh yes... [06:16] frank got him the _bare_ minimum [06:16] but it will take some dev time [06:16] sev i believe was integrating it. [06:16] but it is far from complete. [06:22] Ph, I see [06:22] *Oh [06:22] Well, I'm out, latez [06:22] *laterz === SS2 [n=SS2@83-169-148-35-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === n7cee [n=bog@162.42.122.197] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Konversation] [07:39] hi hi === cbx33 [n=node50@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [07:48] Does usplash have completed artwork yet? [07:48] or is it still the testing screen [07:49] clarify what you mean? [07:49] well, my usplash is the edgy eft starting screen === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-68-95-246-24.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:39] cbx33 testing still. === PingunZ [n=kristof@160.183-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:14] Hey, I made some splashes : http://pingunz.deviantart.com/ === dborg [n=daniel@e182049127.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p549558C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:47] kwwii is there actually a proper usplash artwork done yet? [10:48] cbx33: yes, but we will still be working on improving it [10:48] we have only yesterday included the first stuff [10:49] hmmm... [10:49] why am I not seeing any proper usplash images? [10:50] cbx33: it is broken on my machine too, no idea why [10:50] ahhh ok [10:51] in fact, I cannot find anyone who has it working [10:51] i just wanted to see waht is looked like [10:51] so I can make the edubuntu ones look alike [10:53] both ubuntu and kubuntu are based on the example theme now [10:53] is that in the usplash-dev file? [10:53] package [10:53] yepp [10:54] ok I'll grab that [10:54] but as far as you know usplash is broken? [10:54] well, as I said, I cannot find anyone who has it working [10:54] I have not seen it yet, only put in some pis and hoped for the best :-) [10:54] s/pis/pics [10:54] heheh [10:55] we had a bit of a hiccup on our artwork side [10:55] how so? [10:55] well everyone said they were interested in helping scarpered [10:55] and one of our team who we thought had done some work [10:55] hadn't had time to do any [10:56] so we're a little behind [10:56] I have a lot of it done [10:56] still working away [10:56] tomorrow will be "produce" day [10:56] ;) [10:56] hehe [10:56] I know that feeling [10:56] heheh [10:56] greets boys [10:56] how did kubuntu art go this release?# [10:57] hi troy_s [10:57] like the final sounds? [10:57] hey man [10:57] hey ken, how goes it? [10:57] cbx33 yes... i think they are a step in the right direction [10:58] it is a tricky line to walk between organic and too cultural feeling [10:58] good troy, glad to have at least a basic version of all the artwork done by feature freeze ;-) [10:58] the latter risks cliches and such. [10:58] kwwii yes indeed. [10:58] I can take a nice wieekend off without doing too much [10:59] yeah i was a little upset that a rather kludged lsplash got in, but my time can only come on the weekends currently. [10:59] of course, I spent the day buying 400Euros in lamps and drilling holes in my walls to install them :-) [10:59] cbx33 how goes edubuntu artwork? [10:59] eek [10:59] how come? [10:59] my wife wanted new lighting [10:59] cbx33 it sounded a little chaotic last thing i heard about it. [11:00] well i guess that about says it doesn't it kwwii? lol [11:00] hehe, no shit :-) [11:00] edubuntu artwork is def getting there [11:00] kwwii any word on the aic for edgy+1 yet? [11:00] http://progbox.co.uk/EduWIP1.jpg [11:00] thanks cbx33 i was just asking it as you typed it. [11:00] troy_s: nope, I guess that will be figured out in california in november [11:01] that's an idea for the higher education wallpaper [11:01] we have three wallpapers in our artwork pacakge [11:01] cbx33 do you have a study of all the work thus far? [11:01] or is it scattered? [11:01] higher_ed, school, and lower school [11:01] it is pretty scatter [11:01] read above :( [11:02] is there a study available for each with a screenshot? [11:02] we had big problems [11:02] yes... too bad more folks from edubuntu didn't step in line. [11:02] yeh [11:02] ubuntu and kubuntu were pretty on sched [11:02] so Lisa and I are working last minute [11:02] troy_s nice ;) [11:02] of course, the former needs to wait umpteen hours for sabdfl email and such... [11:03] cbx33 i hope it works out for edubuntu, it really is a great project and a harmonious look could greatly aid its adoption. [11:03] kwwii calif? uck. [11:03] hi all [11:04] hello BHSPitMonkey - how are you? [11:04] of course we'll get there ;) [11:04] kwwii i think mark is already pondering the aic position now. [11:05] troy_s: yeah, I can imagine so [11:05] i think i am going to buy a 22 inch widescreen monitor [11:05] and drop my tools and such onto the 17 [11:05] hehe, I thought about the same thing today [11:06] dual heading for xara and such [11:06] inkscape has blur too... did you hear about that yet kwwii? [11:06] slider in the fill dialog [11:06] troy_s, good, thanks [11:06] the thing is this: all the different buntus have different teams and different needs, so having one aic that does everything for all fo them is perhaps a bit unrealistic [11:07] troy_s: actually, I built the newest stuff and saw that [11:07] the rendering in the toolshed is a little uck, but [11:07] heh, that higher education wallpaper has source code built right in :) [11:07] guess it's gpl friendly [11:07] laf [11:07] hehehe [11:07] it made me look twice when I saw the slider [11:07] kwwii is that his plan? [11:07] BHSPitMonkeymy source code ;) [11:07] i don't think that is his plan by any stretch. [11:07] troy_s: no, it is just my opinion [11:07] i think he intends to appoint an AiC for every release to get folks familiar with the system [11:08] of course, the aic for ubuntu is _completely_ different than that of the others. [11:08] yeah, that is what he said....but I think that that position is more for ubuntu than anything else [11:08] ? [11:08] The AiC? [11:08] I think he can hire one aic for ubuntu and then hire artists for his other needs [11:08] The aic i believe he wants to continue for at least both. [11:09] not 100% sure, but pretty close to it. [11:09] well, for instance, if the aic did both, who would do the artwork for kubuntu? [11:09] no [11:09] i think his goal was to have an aic for each. [11:09] ahhhh [11:09] I did not realize that [11:09] would make sense [11:09] as in, ubu aic and kubu aic just like this cycle. [11:10] and edu get one....probably not [11:10] i believe he also has a longer term goal to establish a higher [11:10] from what I understood in paris, it will be one person for all, and perhaps an artist or two on top [11:10] level [11:10] well, not on top, but below .-9 [11:10] yeah, that is what I meant [11:10] there will eventually be someone above the aic's it sounds like, but right now i think the idea is to get infrastructure in place [11:11] need to get a good set of design docs out there. [11:11] a "paid" aic would be better [11:12] would be able to devote more time to the project [11:12] well paid is good, but ultimately the job description needs to be fully fleshed out [11:12] which is another reason why lisa struggled [11:12] including the drafting and implementation of design docs [11:12] etc. [11:12] had so much paid work to do [11:12] indeed. [11:12] we all do [11:12] she had to prioritise [11:12] of course. [11:12] did any of the other aic's get paid this release? [11:12] if you pay someone to generate work though, it is very short lived. [11:13] cbx33 i don't know. [11:13] well lisa is actually doing a lot of the work [11:13] the structure is far more important in terms of long term goals. [11:13] of course [11:13] kwwii might have more insight into that as he is one of them [11:13] hehe, yes, I am being paid [11:13] kwwii is the official AiC for kubuntu for edgy+1 [11:14] well that kinda sux [11:14] i must clean my bloody keyboard. [11:14] good on you kwwii [11:14] troy_s: hehe, I wish [11:14] I am only official for edgy [11:14] but I'm a little dissapointed that there were no funds for edubuntu [11:14] I did dapper (at the end of the cycle) and now edgy [11:14] cbx33 well considering there was exactly _zero_ art team at the start of edgy [11:14] it isn't really a shocker [11:15] cbx33: I truly think that edubuntu needs more artistic support [11:15] you mean for edubuntu? [11:15] the artwork structure and such really came online in edgy. [11:15] kwwii -- well that is the goal -- pool artistic resources [11:15] we tried to get people involved but no one was interested [11:15] the single warrior model isn't terrific [11:15] hence I'm working with Lisa on it tomorrow ;) [11:15] cbx33: it is too small of a market to interest enough users which are artists, I think [11:16] hopefully something may happen for lisa next release if we manage to pull out all the sotps tomorrow [11:16] I know she's love to work even part time on it [11:16] i don't know about that. the buntu's are a tidal wave [11:16] well I'm off to bed [11:16] aight... get some rest. [11:16] early start tomorro [11:17] be good cbx33 [11:17] take cae guys [11:17] cbx33: night, see you:-) [11:17] Wow, has been active last 15 minutes [11:17] Just when I was gone -_- [11:17] wow [11:18] 117 folks on the launchpad tracker now. [11:18] oh now that you are here ........... [11:18] that's pretty bonkers. [11:18] hehe, no doubt [11:18] my wife is watching female boxing. freaky [11:18] she likes boxing a lot [11:18] kwwii: rofl [11:18] She practices on you ? [11:19] PingunZ, have you had any usplash-related luck [11:19] BHSPitMonkey: ? [11:19] kwwii do you have a screener of the current usplash for kub/ub? [11:19] handy? [11:19] do you have the new usplash working for you, with a pretty theme? [11:19] i think frank got the work off to sev.eas [11:20] BHSPitMonkey: Not yet, I haven't been told how to.. [11:20] ah. [11:20] i imagine sev.eas is dreading having submitted those usplash refinements... testing is going to be a nightmare. [11:20] troy_s: nope, I made the pis, but I cannot get it running (or find anyone who could) [11:20] well, I got usplash-dev or whatever [11:20] and compiled the example [11:20] kwwii do you have a code snippit? [11:20] frank and I got our stuff done in time (and Seveas was nice enough to help and package it) [11:20] i still need to get edgy up on bloody vmware-player [11:20] troy_s: Why not a partition ? [11:21] seveas has really pushed a massive rock up a hill. [11:21] Its really stable, its my prymary os [11:21] troy_s: the usplash theme for kubuntu is in kubuntu-default-settings [11:21] kwwii: What is it in for ubuntu ? [11:21] he has done a great job, and was really patient [11:21] troy_s, the victim is the other thing you asked me to look at === BHSPitMonkey is running Knot 2, from a partition he dedicated to distro testing :) [11:21] pingunz: because i don't like rebooting and my sata drives don't like it either apparently. [11:21] PingunZ: not sure, you would have to ask frank [11:21] the victim? [11:21] laf. [11:21] c'est la vie. with a dead end, where would we travel? [11:21] heh [11:22] i got the rounder in on the gdm at least. [11:22] Seveas: What package is the ubuntu usplash theme in // how can I enable it ? [11:22] I'll look at it again for fuzzy [11:22] PingunZ, for ubuntu the package is not through NEW yet [11:22] for kubuntu it's in kubuntu-default-settings [11:22] :'( [11:22] pingunz -- ubuntu is a little more, eyes on fries so to speak [11:23] http://bootsplash.org/usplash_idea1-800.png is the current kubuntu stuff [11:23] which, ultimately, is a good thing. [11:23] that looks nice [11:23] ah [11:23] kwwii, riddell made it th xubuntu splash too ;) [11:23] :p [11:23] kwwii do you have any studies/sheets of the general look for kub yet? [11:24] Seveas: to be honest, I thought we should simply use the offical logo for each and a simple throbber or progress bar :-) [11:24] as in a recent screener set or something? [11:24] kwwii, I agree [11:24] kwwii i think frank went sole logo [11:24] troy_s: I have put a few shots on the nasty huge wiki page [11:25] laf. [11:25] incoming/kub? [11:25] troy_s, what do you mean with 'laf.'? [11:25] something to be said for scaling. [11:25] kubuntu-edgy-ideas [11:25] eek... that's the second person who asked me that this week. laf simple shorthand for laugh. [11:25] ah [11:25] I will be changing all the artwork in the next day or two, I thought about making a montage with all the artwork [11:25] troy_s, was the other person fschoep or msikma perhaps? [11:25] they're dutch like me [11:26] no [11:26] i can't remember who it was. [11:26] and laf is dutch for being a coward [11:26] True [11:26] but i think everyone automatically thinks it is some strange acronym [11:26] ah [11:26] // I'm dutch too -_- [11:26] how strange is that? [11:26] hehe [11:26] I never knew that [11:26] kwwii what does hehe mean? === troy_s apologizes. [11:27] PingunZ, I thought you were flemish? [11:27] but i can see why with the dutch thing. [11:27] troy_s: it means "yo-yo-yo-mutha-fucka [11:27] " [11:27] Yup Seveas I am .. [11:27] oops, sorry [11:27] that [11:27] 's not dutch : [11:27] But I don't think ppl all over the word understand ' flemish ' :) [11:27] hehe === Seveas will be in flanders oct 18-21 [11:28] in brussels [11:28] Seveas: come and visit me lol [11:28] I live very close to brussels [11:28] google -> hoeilaart ;) [11:28] hey Seveas [11:28] PingunZ, I have little time, I'm going to eurooscon [11:28] have you guys seen what pyrotica has been working on? [11:28] it is pretty damn incredible really. [11:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/GdmThemeing [11:28] Seveas: eurososcon ? [11:29] PingunZ, O'Reilly open source conference [11:29] troy_s: boah, holy shit dude, that is amazing [11:29] ask me now what "boah" means [11:29] yeah nice eh? [11:29] Seveas: Is everyone allowed ? :) [11:29] what is boah? [11:29] just for you. [11:29] PingunZ, everyone who pays 995,- [11:30] link? [11:30] it is the sound I make when I am..... [11:30] rofl [11:30] pretty crazy eh? i have been looking for additional documents [11:30] found a few... [11:30] Seveas: You aren't serious right ? [11:30] PingunZ, I am [11:30] I could touch that up and make a kdm-using-gdm-xml howto [11:30] bloody handy though considering that documentation is about the weakest link in the process. [11:30] that would rock [11:30] http://conferences.oreillynet.com/euos2006/ [11:31] kwwii my jaw dropped when i checked in on it last time. [11:31] http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/48/register.html [11:31] in about two months when I get around to it :-) [11:31] laf [11:31] Seveas: You pay 995 for a conference ?? [11:32] PingunZ, no I got a free ticket [11:32] ^^ [11:32] Seveas: did you know that I was co-author of the bootsplash? [11:32] kwwii, I read it on bootsplash.org [11:33] Graphical consultant: Kenneth Wesley Wimer II [11:33] Seveas: What is so good about it that you should pay 995 for it ?? [11:33] PingunZ, look at the schedule [11:33] 995 is a pretty LOW price for a conference [11:34] Err .. I'm kinda confused [11:35] PingunZ, you've just bever been to a conference ;) [11:35] Nowp :) [11:35] And I won't cause I haven't got 995 O_o [11:35] wow. [11:36] MY dad would kill me if I paid that much for a conference ( I'm 15 ;) ) [11:36] laf [11:36] heh [11:36] erm [11:36] lol [11:36] PingunZ, do you code? [11:36] not the dutch laf [11:36] BHSPitMonkey: NOwp [11:37] I don't like this whole "laf" thing [11:37] lol [11:37] PingunZ, such conferences are more targeted at CEO types [11:37] not 15 year olds [11:37] lmao [11:37] troy_s: try ' rofl , lmao, lol, .. [11:37] see what i mean -- it's the evil laf [11:37] roflmao [11:37] sorry pingunz -- been using laf online since about 1989 [11:37] roflcopter [11:37] it is hard to shake. [11:37] wow [11:37] troy_s: Its like switching apt-get to aptitude [11:38] you've been using an acronym since I was born? [11:38] PingunZ, who would want to make that switch? [11:38] troy_s, why would you shake it? [11:38] BHSPitMonkey: smart ppl :) [11:38] nah [11:38] that just scares me and makes me feel very old. lol. [11:38] heh :P [11:38] aptitude _does_ have some upsides. [11:38] http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude [11:38] troy_s, just out of curiosity, how old would that be? [11:38] that should be scary... MY lifetime, you've been online [11:39] 35 -- 36 in oct [11:39] indeed. [11:39] hehe, same here === Seveas will be 24 in 20 days and 20 minutes [11:39] Wow you're more then twice as old as me [11:39] well, I'm 17. nice to meetcha. [11:39] well, 35 in feb [11:39] first started coding on an apple ] [ in 1979 [11:39] at the collossal age of 9. [11:39] hehe, I wish, 36 in feb [11:39] rofl, nice script Seveas :) [11:39] haha [11:39] PingunZ, script? [11:40] my brother's nine [11:40] I'm impressed if he can write a sentence properly [11:40] Seveas: You don't calc that yourself right ? [11:40] that made me laugh out loud. [11:40] of course I do [11:40] my brother is 54 [11:40] o.o [11:40] well everyone gets up to speed at some point, some just go about it in different ways ;) [11:40] roflmao, I don't believe you man [11:40] the oldest === Seveas needs no script to know his birthday... === BHSPitMonkey just started C/C++ last year, at the ripe age of 16 [11:40] hey -- it was basic with line numbers. [11:41] troy_s, GOTO 10 [11:41] bingo [11:41] started using TI-BASIC in 2001, that was my start [11:41] I know basic python ... Basic php, html and a little css [11:41] PingunZ, html, php and css aren't programming languages [11:41] the desktop computer had quite an impact on my psyche then, so my buddy and i (who owned the damn computer -- something like 4700 bucks cost to his family -- apple hasn't changed a bit) [11:41] I know next to nothing when it comes to web development [11:41] which sucks [11:41] it's really easy to find work on web sites [11:41] started learning like little rodents. [11:42] Seveas: I know, BUt I would be silly with just 2 languages ;) [11:42] PingunZ, you mean one [11:42] dog break. back in afew. [11:42] Seveas: php is a programming language IMO [11:42] whatever [11:42] PingunZ, no -- it's a way to vomit on the internet [11:42] rofl [11:44] hehe, that is why I learned perl so many years ago [11:44] it paid well at the time [11:44] it's outdated and crap to maintain now [11:44] perl does not only allow you to shoot yourself in the foot, it hands you the loaded gun too [11:45] it is certainly no longer a good language for the net [11:45] but for some stuff it still rocks [11:45] obfuscation, for one [11:45] heh [11:45] true [11:45] job security [11:45] eek [11:46] well that blasted fschoep should have popped on this morn. [11:48] ^^ [11:49] seveas are you on the bug killing fest now? [11:49] i take it? [11:49] to get usplash to work. === PingunZ goes to sleep [11:53] byez [11:54] night [11:58] troy_s, no [11:58] the difficult work is mjg59's part === SS2 [n=SS2@dslb-084-057-001-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:00] what is his issue? [12:00] i presume something of that magnatude is ugly as hell to implement. [12:01] implementing it in a nice way is [12:01] hacking something together that basically works, but needs "going over" is a bit easier [12:02] but bug-fixing this stuff is going to be fun, I bet