| ompaul | Burgwork, how about a feature about Saturday 16th Sept? | 12:19 |
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| Burgwork | SFD? | 12:20 |
| ompaul | yes | 12:21 |
| Burgwork | list it in upcoming events | 12:21 |
| ompaul | okay | 12:21 |
| ompaul | wiki is timing out on me for edits .... question when the info was moved from wiki. to help. was the database "cleaned/compressed" space recovered (I don't know the phrase for the wiki's db) | 12:24 |
| ompaul | got in | 12:24 |
| Burgwork | hmm, no idea | 12:24 |
| ompaul | and I don't know that the db does not do it itself | 12:26 |
| Burgwork | afaik, moin uses flat files | 12:28 |
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| Flannel | ompaul: Info was moved over by hand, as far as Im aware. | 12:37 |
| Flannel | ompaul: people would copy/paste into the new pages, which is why help. has no previous version history | 12:37 |
| ompaul | Flannel, ahh | 12:37 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, okay | 12:37 |
| Flannel | Not sure about the pages from wiki still taking up space... let me check | 12:38 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, I just ripped the SFD site and added a line of my own | 12:39 |
| Flannel | ompaul: pages on wiki. that are redirects still have their old database stuff though, they still take up space in wiki.'s database: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?action=info | 12:39 |
| ompaul | Flannel, I wonder if it impacts DB peeformance | 12:40 |
| Burgwork | again, moin has no db | 12:41 |
| Burgwork | it is flat files | 12:41 |
| ompaul | sorry | 12:41 |
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| Flannel | then, it might. I'm not familiar with how the files are stored. But, extra data shouldnt make a big difference, if things are properly setup/indexed/etc | 12:41 |
| Flannel | it definately won't make a difference with editing, well, unless it stores it in one BIG file, etc | 12:42 |
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| ompaul | Burgwork, logging into a another machine using no passwords? | 12:55 |
| ompaul | feature? | 12:55 |
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| ompaul | Title: Secure Login With No Password or How I learnt to stop worrying and started to use ssh | 12:57 |
| ompaul | Keys Not Password - Preventing SSH Knocking Attacks | 12:58 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, sorry? | 12:58 |
| ompaul | I am playing with words - how to log into a server without passwords - using keys | 12:58 |
| ompaul | or some such titling | 12:59 |
| ompaul | for the feature | 12:59 |
| Burgwork | Password-less login using SSH keys | 12:59 |
| ompaul | yeap | 12:59 |
| Flannel | the howto isn't too explanatory, unfortunately. | 01:00 |
| ompaul | is that a suitable feature or is it too heavy weight | 01:00 |
| Burgwork | for what? | 01:00 |
| ompaul | "feature" UWN | 01:00 |
| Flannel | ompaul: write a good one! good enough so I can set it up on my box | 01:00 |
| Burgwork | sure, that is a good one | 01:01 |
| Burgwork | we need more server-oriented articles | 01:01 |
| ompaul | when should it be finished by? | 01:01 |
| Burgwork | however, better to talk about how it is possible and link to a howto | 01:01 |
| Burgwork | features about not about how, but that they exist | 01:01 |
| Burgwork | tomorrow, 7am yourtime | 01:01 |
| ompaul | phhhhtttt | 01:02 |
| ompaul | not going to happen | 01:02 |
| ompaul | I'll see if I can clean up the wiki a bit | 01:02 |
| ompaul | if I can get it to more "user" friendly then I could link to it | 01:02 |
| ompaul | I have about an hour left before I fall over | 01:03 |
| Flannel | ompaul: there are two pages that both cover it on the wiki. Although I think that's new... a few weeks ago the SSHHowTo didn't, just GPGSigningforSSHHowTo | 01:04 |
| Flannel | but, Im just rambling | 01:04 |
| ompaul | Flannel, it would take a new page to link those | 01:06 |
| Flannel | ompaul: er, what? right. I havent read the new stuff on the former, as I believe it's new as of a few weeks ago. | 01:06 |
| Flannel | however, the latter is user-centric, doesn't explain how ot set up the server portions of it at all | 01:06 |
| Flannel | just "make this, give it to your sys admin" sort of thing | 01:07 |
| ompaul | and Why OH Why do people not use "ssh -C user@machine" I don't care what size of box you have or network bandwidth unless both are silly huge 99% of use cases get a big improvement with "-C" | 01:08 |
| ompaul | gaaaa | 01:08 |
| ompaul | sftp for multiple file transfers | 01:09 |
| Flannel | ompaul: actually, I found -C was slower for me... on my LAN | 01:09 |
| ompaul | what speed is your lan? | 01:09 |
| Flannel | 100mbps | 01:09 |
| Flannel | I imagine its because the compresison/decompression took more time than the data transfer | 01:10 |
| ompaul | tell you what - do a test - do a transfer of a 3 meg file :) | 01:10 |
| Flannel | heh, I was watching video, not transferring files | 01:10 |
| ompaul | ohhh | 01:10 |
| ompaul | hmm | 01:10 |
| ompaul | I wonder if streaming acts like ftp or http | 01:11 |
| Flannel | well, it wasnt streaming... it was watching the worldcup in ASCII | 01:11 |
| ompaul | you had us all doing that | 01:11 |
| Flannel | heh | 01:12 |
| ompaul | I am writing a little piece called "go away or I will replace you with a shell script" ;-) | 01:44 |
| ompaul | I'll give that ssh thing a shot for next week | 01:45 |
| ompaul | question, does upstart negate the need for inittab? | 01:55 |
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| ompaul | nixternal, got a moment or two? | 02:41 |
| nixternal | ya | 02:46 |
| nixternal | lol | 02:46 |
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| theCore | hello | 05:59 |
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| teolemon | hi | 06:41 |
| teolemon | i've written a spec here: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/negative-review-analyser | 06:42 |
| teolemon | it would be a way to track negative reviews, analyse them and provide devs with clear feedback | 06:43 |
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| nixternal | thank you for stopping by ;) | 07:27 |
| nixternal | speaking of marketing...CNN ran a story a little bit ago during their "Business" edition, and Bill Gates said as of right now, Linux isn't even a blip on the radar screen, as the marketing of such a wonderful idea doesn't exist | 07:28 |
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| adamant1988 | hello all | 07:47 |
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