[12:19] <ompaul> Burgwork, how about a feature about Saturday 16th Sept?
[12:20] <Burgwork> SFD?
[12:21] <ompaul> yes
[12:21] <Burgwork> list it in upcoming events
[12:21] <ompaul> okay
[12:24] <ompaul> wiki is timing out on me for edits .... question when the info was moved from wiki. to help. was the database "cleaned/compressed" space recovered (I don't know the phrase for the wiki's db)
[12:24] <ompaul> got in
[12:24] <Burgwork> hmm, no idea
[12:26] <ompaul> and I don't know that the db does not do it itself
[12:28] <Burgwork> afaik, moin uses flat files
[12:37] <Flannel> ompaul: Info was moved over by hand, as far as Im aware.
[12:37] <Flannel> ompaul: people would copy/paste into the new pages, which is why help. has no previous version history
[12:37] <ompaul> Flannel, ahh
[12:37] <ompaul> Burgwork, okay
[12:38] <Flannel> Not sure about the pages from wiki still taking up space... let me check
[12:39] <ompaul> Burgwork, I just ripped the SFD site and added a line of my own
[12:39] <Flannel> ompaul: pages on wiki. that are redirects still have their old database stuff though, they still take up space in wiki.'s database: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?action=info
[12:40] <ompaul> Flannel, I wonder if it impacts DB peeformance
[12:41] <Burgwork> again, moin has no db
[12:41] <Burgwork> it is flat files
[12:41] <ompaul> sorry
[12:41] <Flannel> then, it might.  I'm not familiar with how the files are stored.  But, extra data shouldnt make a big difference, if things are properly setup/indexed/etc
[12:42] <Flannel> it definately won't make a difference with editing, well, unless it stores it in one BIG file, etc
[12:55] <ompaul> Burgwork, logging into a another machine using no passwords?
[12:55] <ompaul> feature?
[12:57] <ompaul> Title: Secure Login With No Password or How I learnt to stop worrying and started to use ssh
[12:58] <ompaul> Keys Not Password - Preventing SSH Knocking Attacks
[12:58] <Burgwork> ompaul, sorry?
[12:58] <ompaul> I am playing with words - how to log into a server without passwords - using keys
[12:59] <ompaul> or some such titling
[12:59] <ompaul> for the feature
[12:59] <Burgwork> Password-less login using SSH keys
[12:59] <ompaul> yeap
[01:00] <Flannel> the howto isn't too explanatory, unfortunately.
[01:00] <ompaul> is that a suitable feature or is it too heavy weight
[01:00] <Burgwork> for what?
[01:00] <ompaul> "feature" UWN
[01:00] <Flannel> ompaul: write a good one! good enough so I can set it up on my box
[01:01] <Burgwork> sure, that is a good one
[01:01] <Burgwork> we need more server-oriented articles
[01:01] <ompaul> when should it be finished by?
[01:01] <Burgwork> however, better to talk about how it is possible and link to a howto
[01:01] <Burgwork> features about not about how, but that they exist
[01:01] <Burgwork> tomorrow, 7am yourtime
[01:02] <ompaul> phhhhtttt
[01:02] <ompaul> not going to happen
[01:02] <ompaul> I'll see if I can clean up the wiki a bit
[01:02] <ompaul> if I can get it to more "user" friendly then I could link to it
[01:03] <ompaul> I have about an hour left before I fall over
[01:04] <Flannel> ompaul: there are two pages that both cover it on the wiki.  Although I think that's new... a few weeks ago the SSHHowTo didn't, just GPGSigningforSSHHowTo
[01:04] <Flannel> but, Im just rambling
[01:06] <ompaul> Flannel, it would take a new page to link those
[01:06] <Flannel> ompaul: er, what?  right.  I havent read the new stuff on the former, as I believe it's new as of a few weeks ago.
[01:06] <Flannel> however, the latter is user-centric, doesn't explain how ot set up the server portions of it at all
[01:07] <Flannel> just "make this, give it to your sys admin" sort of thing
[01:08] <ompaul> and Why OH Why do people not use "ssh -C user@machine" I don't care what size of box you have or network bandwidth unless both are silly huge 99% of use cases get a big improvement with "-C"
[01:08] <ompaul> gaaaa
[01:09] <ompaul> sftp for multiple file transfers
[01:09] <Flannel> ompaul: actually, I found -C was slower for me... on my LAN
[01:09] <ompaul> what speed is your lan?
[01:09] <Flannel> 100mbps
[01:10] <Flannel> I imagine its because the compresison/decompression took more time than the data transfer
[01:10] <ompaul> tell you what - do a test - do a transfer of a 3 meg file :)
[01:10] <Flannel> heh, I was watching video, not transferring files
[01:10] <ompaul> ohhh
[01:10] <ompaul> hmm
[01:11] <ompaul> I wonder if streaming acts like ftp or http
[01:11] <Flannel> well, it wasnt streaming... it was watching the worldcup in ASCII
[01:11] <ompaul> you had us all doing that
[01:12] <Flannel> heh
[01:44] <ompaul> I am writing a little piece called "go away or I will replace you with a shell script" ;-)
[01:45] <ompaul> I'll give that ssh thing a shot for next week
[01:55] <ompaul> question, does upstart negate the need for inittab?
[02:41] <ompaul> nixternal, got a moment or two?
[02:46] <nixternal> ya
[02:46] <nixternal> lol
[05:59] <theCore> hello
[06:41] <teolemon> hi
[06:42] <teolemon> i've written a spec here: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/negative-review-analyser
[06:43] <teolemon> it would be a way to track negative reviews, analyse them and provide devs with clear feedback
[07:27] <nixternal> thank you for stopping by ;)
[07:28] <nixternal> speaking of marketing...CNN ran a story a little bit ago during their "Business" edition, and Bill Gates said as of right now, Linux isn't even a blip on the radar screen, as the marketing of such a wonderful idea doesn't exist
[07:47] <adamant1988> hello all