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xopherDo you guys know how / if I can compile non-debian source code in pbuilder?12:17
LaserJockhow do you mean?12:17
Jon335Reddell: Aren't the Kubuntu packages from the same repo?12:18
Jon335From Kubuntu.org: "Our Kubuntu CDs are made up of Ubuntu's base plus KDE. You can get exactly the same effect by installing Ubuntu and adding the KDE packages (and removing the Gnome packages) from the Ubuntu archives."12:18
xopherWell if the package doesnt have the debian control files12:18
geseryou could login into a pbuilder session12:19
xopherhmm, ok12:20
geserbut you would have to do the compilation manually (configure, make, etc.)12:20
xophersure12:20
xopherdo I need to mount the dir somehow?12:20
geserpbuilder login12:20
geserand then copy the files from outside the chroot (from an other console) into your pbuilder chroot12:21
xopherhow exactly?. . 12:22
xopherhavent figured out how chroot works yet so this is all new to me12:22
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Adri2000what does that mean "warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (1234)" ?12:41
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lupine_85hello12:42
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lupine_85I have a package rquest, if anyone's in? :)12:42
lupine_85(I already have working .deb files)12:43
geserAdri2000: no worry about it, afaik it's normal12:44
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Adri2000ok. another one, problem with gpg "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found", it occurs during pbuilder, after the build-depencies and before ./configure. i don't know what does it want to sign, the package is already signed with debuild, no ?12:48
geserit wants to check the signature on the dsc file12:50
Adri2000so where is my mistake ?12:51
geserI get the same error as gpg inside pbuilder doesn't know the keys12:52
FujitsuAdri2000, is it your package?12:54
Adri2000yes Fujitsu12:54
FujitsuActually, that's normal.12:54
FujitsuThe pbuilder won't have your keys.12:54
Adri2000so i can ignore this error, ok.12:56
FujitsuYep.12:57
geserif it would be a real error the pbuilder would stop12:59
Adri2000the software i'm packaging is djplay, it needs jackd and qjackctl to be running. If one of them is not running, djplay segfaults at startup :/ i'm going to explain this in readme.debian, should i also write a script which starts jackd qjackctl and then djplay ? and what about the .desktop file ? there is none in the sources, neither any pixmaps to make an icon for the menu. what do you think about that ?01:03
geserhave you contacted upstream about the segfaults?01:06
Fujitsu'cause it certainly shouldn't segfault.01:07
Adri2000i don't think upstream will do anything. no new release for 1+ year.01:11
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Adri2000the debian howto says to run make as root :s because make copies some header files on your system...01:15
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fbondcrimsun, have you had a change to look at midisport-firmware?02:43
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bddebianHeya gang03:23
FujitsuHi bddebian.03:24
bddebianHeya Fujitsu03:24
ajmitchhello bddebian03:25
bddebianHi ajmitch03:25
FujitsuHi ajmitch.03:26
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FujitsuShould Universe packages still be auto-syncing from Sid?04:27
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bddebianFujitsu: No, a sync must be requested afaik04:35
FujitsuOK... That's a little silly.04:35
FujitsuBecause they're not noted anywhere.04:35
bddebianWhat do you mean not noted?04:38
Fujitsubddebian, packages with newer versions in Debian aren't listed anywhere that I can find...04:41
bddebianNot on merges.ubuntu.com?04:41
FujitsuNo, not there.04:42
FujitsuThat only lists packages with Ubuntu changes.04:42
bddebianOh, hmm04:44
ToadstoolFujitsu: http://revu.tauware.de/~lucas/versions/all-packages.html04:58
Toadstoolhi everybody04:58
FujitsuAh, hi Toadstool.04:58
Toadstoolhi :)04:58
bddebianHeya Toadstool05:00
Toadstoolhey bddebian05:00
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imbrandon05:26
hub05:31
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DeeahWhat is the best dapper guide for those cool affects(XGL or AIGLX?), I have an ATI Radeon 9100 card, and the free(libre) OSS driver "ati" works great for me for 3d accel stuff. What is the best guide to get that eye candy?05:48
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Hobbseezakame: lol @ your blog :P08:07
Hobbseei thought sleeping at work would be classified as a bad thing.08:08
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Deeahhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jmmN4J70.html08:39
DeeahIs that the proper way to do aiglx?08:39
Mezany core-dev around08:47
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Plugcan vino work with xgl?09:03
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zakamehi all10:00
Sp4rKyhi10:03
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FujitsuHi, zakame.10:05
imbrandonmoins all10:12
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FujitsuMorning, imbrandon.10:15
FujitsuCan somebody REVU my package on REVU?10:15
Fujitsuhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=286810:15
imbrandonwow, umm looks liek you dident cahnge any of the stuff from the comments so far10:18
imbrandonits unstable no edgy, compat 4 not 510:18
imbrandoncopyright is kinda sparse10:18
FujitsuErm, I did change it...10:18
FujitsuI'm sure I did.10:18
imbrandonplease run dh_python in debian/rules and add ${python:Depends} to the Depends: line10:18
imbrandon* debhelper needs to be Build-Depends instead of Build-Depends-Indep (everything needed in the clean target needs to be)10:18
imbrandon* ${shlibs:Depends} not needed10:18
imbrandon* debian/copyright needs to be more extensive, please see /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make/licenses10:18
imbrandonand a;; that ^^10:18
imbrandonall10:18
FujitsuOops.10:18
Fujitsuhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306410:18
Arbiterlol10:19
Arbiter:)10:19
imbrandonahhh10:19
FujitsuThat /was/ the old one :P10:19
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FujitsuSorry...10:19
imbrandonnp10:19
imbrandonok Fujitsu get one more10:22
imbrandondone10:22
FujitsuOoh, thanks :)10:22
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Arbiterimbrandon, want to help? :)10:28
Arbiteri need some reviews... :>10:28
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FujitsuNo other MOTUs around?10:29
zakamehi Fujitsu10:30
FujitsuHi zakame.10:30
FujitsuHave a moment to review a package of mine?10:30
zakamelink?10:30
Fujitsuhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306410:31
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FujitsuI've now got to run off to dinner, I should be back in about 25 minutes.10:34
zakamecool; have to charge my lappy though :/10:37
zakameso revu-ing could take a bit10:38
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FujitsuBack.10:48
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bersaceHello motu11:54
bersacei have uploaded gnomescan at ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/11:54
FujitsuHi bersace.11:54
bersacewhat next ?11:54
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FujitsuYou're meant to use dput, not just upload them to the FTP server, as far as I know.11:55
bersaceyep11:56
FujitsuHm.11:56
FujitsuIt was rejected for some reason.11:56
FujitsuHave you added yourself to ubuntu-universe-contributors on Launchpad?11:56
bersaceyep11:57
FujitsuWhen did you do so?11:57
bersaceyesterday11:57
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FujitsuHave you requested that the REVU keyring be synced since then?11:57
bersaceso back from lunch12:21
bersaceFujitsu: How to request the sync ?12:22
imbrandonyou ask a revu admin ( listed in the wiki in the topic )12:23
bersaceok12:23
kagoui was able to upload  with dput 4min after my acceptation on ubuntu-universe-contributors team12:23
bersacekagou:  !!!!!12:24
kagouafter for the password ... you have to find an admin :)12:24
kagoubersace,  :)12:24
imbrandonbersace, would be nice to register your nick on irc too so i dont get <not identified> infront of all your messages ;)12:24
imbrandonnot a requirement though, just a personal request ;)12:24
kagouFujitsu, if you can have a look at my last upload (just an upgrade) : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306612:25
bersaceimbrandon: ?12:25
bersacei'm registered !12:25
bersacewith nickserv12:25
imbrandon[05:24]  <kagou> bersace,  :)12:25
Fujitsukagou, why?12:25
imbrandon[05:24]  <imbrandon> bersace, would be nice to register your nick on irc too so i dont get <not identified> infront of all your messages ;)12:25
imbrandon[05:24]  <imbrandon> not a requirement though, just a personal request ;)12:25
imbrandon[05:25]  <kagou> Fujitsu, if you can have a look at my last upload (just an upgrade) : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306612:25
imbrandon[05:25]  <bersace> <not identified> : imbrandon: ?12:25
imbrandon[05:25]  <bersace> <not identified> : i'm registered !12:25
imbrandon[05:25]  <bersace> <not identified> : with nickserv12:26
bersace:(12:26
imbrandonyou might not be identified then12:26
imbrandon /quote nickserv identify <password>12:26
bersaceright12:26
bersacethis is due to the renaming :(12:26
kagouFujitsu, for advocate12:26
kagouand upload :)12:27
bersacegood ?12:27
imbrandonkagou, Fujitsu isnt a MOTU ;)12:27
imbrandon( yet )12:27
imbrandons/yet/big\ yet/g12:27
FujitsuYeah, yet...12:27
kagouimbrandon, oups, =)12:27
imbrandonkagou, gimme the url i can though ;)12:28
kagouimbrandon, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306612:28
FujitsuBy `Big yet' you mean `a long way to go', I presume...12:28
imbrandonFujitsu, no i mean its definately gonna happen, just a matter of time12:28
imbrandon;)12:28
FujitsuYeah, a fair bit of time :P12:29
FujitsuI've not done a whole lot yet... Just ~50 merges/syncs, two package bug fixes, and not-quite one new package from REVU. A fair way to go before I'd be considered, I think :P12:30
imbrandonFujitsu, look at my +packages and your +packages , pretty similar ;)12:31
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FujitsuAh yes, but yours are probably not all merges/syncs.12:31
imbrandonall depends on what your know and our goals and stuff ;)12:31
imbrandonFujitsu, about 1/2 are merges heh12:31
FujitsuYeah, > 90% of mine are merges.12:32
imbrandoni only actively maintain/bugfix about 5 packages12:32
imbrandonits not the quanity , its the quality ;)12:32
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imbrandonand merges are important to seeing as there are a few thousand to do every ~6 months ;)12:33
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imbrandons/to/also12:33
FujitsuI guess, yes.12:33
imbrandonkagou, looks good , i'll upload in a sec and mark it on revu12:36
bersaceFujitsu: i don't understand the process for being uploader12:41
bersacei joined the team and uploaded a package12:41
imbrandonkagou, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-September/005357.html12:41
bersacewhich does not seems to be rejected (only an old version is rejected)12:41
bersaceis my review account created ? how to recover my password12:41
bersacewhat is an Elgamal key ?12:42
Fujitsubersace, part of your GPG key.12:42
kagouimbrandon, thanks :)12:43
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phanaticafternoon12:47
bersaceFujitsu: i have a GPG key in the launchpad account, is it sufficient ?12:49
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Fujitsubersace, if the REVU keyring has been synced.12:55
FujitsuEvening, phanatic.12:56
phanatichey Fujitsu, congrats for your membership :)12:56
FujitsuThanks phanatic :)12:56
bersacezakame: how to add my GPG key to the REVU keyring ?12:56
Fujitsubersace, request a REVU Admin to sync it.12:57
bersaceany REVU Admin here ?12:58
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Fujitsubersace, these people here:12:59
Fujitsuhttps://launchpad.net/people/revu-hackers12:59
bersacehowto make a requests ?12:59
FujitsuJust ask one of them when they're here.01:00
bersaceajmitch: hello, can you sync the REVU keyring ?01:01
bersaceor siretart ?01:01
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neutrinomassbug 59637 - this is a bug, right ?01:29
UbugtuMalone bug 59637 in oleo "Failed build-deps" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5963701:29
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Adri2000is it possible to see the list of the revu keyring ? to know which gpg key is accepted for upload01:31
AnAntcan someone have a look at : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2984 , http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3005  and  http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=257301:31
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fbondIf there are any revu-ers here, midisport-firmware has been all-but-uploaded, before one final tweak was made01:46
fbondI've been waiting for crimsun to look that tweak over, but it may have been forgotten01:47
fbondCan I get a few people to take a quick look?01:47
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FujitsuEvening, Hobbsee.02:07
FujitsuI've fixed up convertall, and have one advocate...02:07
FujitsuIf you have time, can you have another look?02:07
tsengHobbsee: good morning02:08
Hobbseehey Fujitsu02:08
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=== Hobbsee wonders if her brain is in tact enough to do it
Hobbseehey tseng02:08
HobbseeFujitsu: tseng will do it, i'm sure :P02:08
tsengi doubt it02:09
FujitsuOK, tseng, can you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3064?02:09
Hobbseetseng: whyever not?02:09
FujitsuThanks for dobbing him in, Hobbsee :P02:09
imbrandonfbond, give me a url , i'll have a look02:09
HobbseeFujitsu: not a problem02:09
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tsengfor one02:09
tsengthe website is broken02:09
Hobbseeimbrandon: wants to do it too02:09
tsengpython backtrace02:09
tsengah02:09
Hobbseetseng: -?02:09
tsengright02:09
FujitsuWhich website?02:09
imbrandonHobbsee, i already did Fujitsu02:09
imbrandoni was the first +102:10
imbrandon;)02:10
tsengcan i finally recover my password on here now?02:10
tsengis the other thing02:10
Hobbseeimbrandon: ah right02:10
TheMusoHey all.02:10
Hobbseetseng: you should be able to02:10
Fujitsutseng, I was able to recover mine earlier today.02:10
Hobbseehi TheMuso02:10
FujitsuHey, TheMuso.02:10
tsengthey gave me an entirely ass password02:10
tsengand i cant change it02:10
FujitsuHaha.02:10
imbrandontseng, yea i wish it used the LP credentials, it would be nice02:11
FujitsuIt would be really nice :(02:11
imbrandonwould probably get alot more use too02:11
tsengphew, logged in02:11
tseng"Universal unit converter" is a pretty weird short description02:12
tsengdoesnt even tell me its a python lib02:13
FujitsuIt isn't a Python lib.02:13
tsengoh, python app?02:13
tsenggot it02:13
FujitsuYes.02:13
tsengI guess thats ok02:13
tsengfyi i am not build testing this if someone else credible already did (imbrandon)02:14
geserI looked at the gftp merge02:14
tsengjust looking at the diff02:14
geserdoes somebody know where the po/* changes come from?02:14
imbrandontseng, yea i built it a few hours ago02:14
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tsengif it builds clean the diff looks reasonable to me02:15
tsengdone02:15
FujitsuYay! Thanks imbrandon, tseng, Hobbsee :)02:16
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FujitsuSo, now I just wait for someone to upload it?02:26
tsengsure02:27
tsengHobbsee would love to02:27
FujitsuHahaha.,02:27
Hobbseewould i now?02:27
Hobbseei'd have to upload it from imbrandon's machine02:27
Hobbseebut why not..02:27
HobbseeFujitsu: link?02:28
Fujitsuhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306402:28
geserdoes somebody know where MoM gets the updates for the po/* files?02:28
tsengerm02:28
tsengfrom where, exactly?02:28
tseng(not really)02:28
tseng(it merges debian + ubuntu changes)02:28
TheMusoHobbsee: WHy use imbrandon's machine to upload?02:29
tsengunless someone did something boggling I dont know about02:29
tsengTheMuso: KDE sucked down all her available resources02:29
Fujitsutseng, haha.02:29
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TheMusoheh02:29
TheMusoc02:29
geserI used grab-merge to get the files for gftp02:29
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imbrandonheya TheMuso02:30
=== Fujitsu watches Hobbsee wield her doom stick.
imbrandonno KDE Blasphmey in here tseng ;)02:30
tsengI am not scared of Hobbsee02:30
StevenKtseng: You ought to be02:30
Hobbseetseng: i yell pretty loudly02:30
imbrandonhehe02:30
imbrandonheya StevenK02:30
tsengHobbsee: ..I listen to Converge02:30
tsengHobbsee: comeon02:30
geserand there is a 4.3 MB patch, but the several diff.gz are all nearly the same size02:30
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Fujitsugeser, that's normal.02:31
=== Hobbsee uses the mace on tseng
Fujitsugeser, all the differences are from either Debian or Ubuntu packages.02:31
Hobbseegeser: probably means that it's wrong.02:31
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FujitsuAw...02:31
StevenKAnd this is mace, as the spiky ball on a chain, not the wimpy spray02:31
FujitsuPoor Konqui...02:31
TheMusoHey StevenK.02:31
TheMusoGet the kernel/speakup stuff sorted?02:32
geserwhat should happen to the happen to these changes? can I ignore them?02:32
StevenKTheMuso: I wish02:32
Fujitsugeser, you need to work that out.02:32
geserthe ubuntu1.patch for the former version is only 1.7K02:33
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HobbseeFujitsu: thanks :)02:33
FujitsuWh..wh... Why are you thanking me? I should be thanking you!02:34
imbrandongeser, thats not something you can realy judge from the patch sizes, you need to go over the changelogs and debain/patches of them and "merge" the two packages ;)02:35
HobbseeFujitsu: because you did the work02:35
FujitsuAnd you made comments which allowed me to get it up to scratch, and then (hopefully) uploaded it for me.02:36
FujitsuSo thanks :)02:36
FujitsuOoh.02:36
FujitsuI can see it on LP...02:37
fbondimbrandon, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306302:37
Hobbseetrue that02:37
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=== StevenK *finally* manages to beat libggi into shape enough to upload.
StevenKBlasted thing.02:40
FujitsuWhat was up with it?02:40
geserimbrandon: what are patch files downloaded by grab-merge.sh?02:40
Hobbseegeser: they say in the REPORT02:41
HobbseeFujitsu: it was being highly painful02:41
FujitsuA lot of packages do that.02:41
imbrandonfbond, done02:41
Hobbseenot like that though.02:41
imbrandonge its says in the REPORT02:42
imbrandongeser, even02:42
StevenKFujitsu: An evil merge to begin with, and then it FTBFS on top of it02:42
FujitsuAh! Fun.02:42
StevenKHobbsee should know, she watched me do most of the work in person.02:42
geserI ask because I still don't understand where the po changes come from02:43
Hobbseeindeed02:43
Hobbseethat was a fun night02:43
=== StevenK nods.
geserthe changes between the two debian version doesn't contain them02:43
FujitsuSilly people living near other devs... :(02:43
neutrinomassgeser: Quick fix on oleo ;)02:44
HobbseeFujitsu: means i can get my key easily signed :)02:44
FujitsuGranted, I'm not far from a Canonical employee...02:44
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StevenKFujitsu: Hah, I work with a DD, with another four close by02:44
Hobbseegeser: i've just been taking the .po files out of the diff, and applying the ubuntu diff on the debian source.  which would axe ubuntu's .po file changes, i guess02:44
FujitsuStevenK, aren't you a DD?02:44
StevenKFujitsu: Yup02:44
tsengFujitsu: he's a faker02:45
=== Hobbsee wonders how rosetta integrates with the packages anyway.
=== StevenK kicks tseng in the keyboard
Hobbseehehe02:45
FujitsuHobbsee, I've wondered that.02:45
Hobbseethe great StevenK will tell us.02:45
HobbseeFujitsu: he tries to pretend that he isnt02:45
StevenKIt usually works02:45
StevenKUntil some bozo dobs me in02:45
FujitsuHobbsee, ah... But I'd seen his name elsewhere :P02:46
HobbseeStevenK: hehe.  it never works.02:46
FujitsuSo yes, I really must see Mr. Conrad at some point in the near future.02:46
HobbseeFujitsu: true that02:46
StevenKFujitsu: Ah, Melbourne?02:46
tsengFujitsu: Mr. Conrad doesnt go out in the sun02:46
StevenKtseng: s/ in the sun//02:46
tsengwithout a silly hat anyway02:46
Hobbseetseng: the outside is scary.  he is wise not to.02:47
Hobbseea silly hat?02:47
TheMusoThe outside is fun. Why would you stay inside? :)02:47
tsengHobbsee: ive never seen him w/o a hat02:47
tsenginside or out02:47
StevenKWhat do you expect from a Candian?02:47
=== TheMuso thought he saw him without a hat in Paris.
HobbseeTheMuso: remember that thing called rain?02:47
TheMusoBut I can't be sure of that.02:47
tsenghttp://www.netsplit.com/events/2005/ubuntu-down-under/ubuntu-down-under-005_screen.jpg02:47
tsenghere's the hat02:47
StevenKHe's probably heard that the Australian sun can burn through walls.02:47
TheMusoHobbsee: Its not always around you know.02:48
tsengand a dashing Mithrandir02:48
Hobbseepiont02:48
Hobbseehah02:48
StevenKIs that a like a point?02:48
StevenKMaybe one that isn't so pointy02:48
StevenKs/a \(like\)/\1/02:48
=== TheMuso tries to direct the image through to his Braille display, but fails.
=== StevenK throws his regex at TheMuso's Braille display
TheMusoThat thing only has 8 dots per cell rendering. No luck there.02:49
HobbseeStevenK: hehe.  indeed.02:49
=== Hobbsee notes that StevenK *still* hasnt answered the question.
StevenKDamn!02:51
StevenKStop noticing!02:51
Hobbseehehe02:51
TheMuso /c02:51
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HobbseeFujitsu: i've been reminded.  i must yell at you.02:51
StevenKI will usually take the latest Debian version and diff the merged version that MoM spat out.02:51
=== Fujitsu prepares to be doom-sticked.
HobbseeStevenK: right02:52
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StevenKIf that diff is empty or mostly empty, I chuck it, else it gets merged in.02:53
FujitsuHave I gone deaf? :P02:53
HobbseeFujitsu: no, i just had to find the bug report.02:53
FujitsuOh, gaphor?02:54
StevenKMuaha, he even knows02:54
FujitsuI do.02:54
=== TheMuso decides to start working on a blindness community site he has procrastinated about for several weeks.
=== StevenK hands Fujitsu a sword so he can take the honourable option of hari-kari
HobbseeTheMuso: nice :)02:55
HobbseeFujitsu: that's the one :P02:55
FujitsuThanks, StevenK.02:55
imbrandon[07:54]  <Fujitsu> Oh, gaphor? <-- zomg , classic02:56
FujitsuHow's that classic?02:56
imbrandonbecosue you knew what one it was02:56
FujitsuOf course.02:56
imbrandonnvm02:56
FujitsuIt's the only one I've done something really wrong on lately.02:56
Hobbseehehe02:56
Hobbseeimbrandon: well, based on the fact that i commented on it when i found out about it yesterday...02:57
FujitsuI remember that bug comment well.02:57
Hobbseehehe02:57
Hobbseehey now, that was the toned down versoin02:57
Hobbsees/versoin/version/g02:57
FujitsuHow encouraging.02:57
Hobbsee:P02:58
StevenKWhich bug is it?02:58
StevenKC'mon, share!02:58
=== Fujitsu locates.
Hobbseebug 5927302:59
UbugtuMalone bug 59273 in gaphor "Please sync gaphor 0.8.1-4 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5927302:59
Fujitsuyeah, that one.02:59
=== Fujitsu hides.
Hobbseemy other response was better :P02:59
FujitsuWhich response?02:59
Hobbseeto the "please sync ndiswrapper" one02:59
FujitsuHrm.02:59
Hobbseeno, wait, to the "please sync/merge gftp"02:59
=== Fujitsu looks for that one.
Fujitsu`Please sync/merge'!? Great...02:59
Hobbseeit's all subscribed to ubuntu-universe-sponsors02:59
Hobbseehehe03:00
Hobbseeyeah03:00
Hobbsee"no, we dont do the work for you, go away"03:00
StevenKOh, yeah, I remember that mail03:00
Hobbseei think i was in an annoyed mood last night :P03:00
StevenKHah03:01
FujitsuWell, that yelling at wasn't as bad as I expected :)03:02
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FujitsuPlease keep up the bring-up-the-mistake-in-front-of-everybody idea... It's a very effective deterrent from making mistakes :P03:03
imbrandonlol03:03
fbondimbrandon, thanks03:04
StevenKFujitsu: For your second mistake, Hobbsee impales you with her sharp pointy stick of doom03:04
HobbseeFujitsu: hehe.03:04
FujitsuEven better, StevenK :)03:05
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fbondanyone else want to have a look at midisport-firmware so we can get it approved?03:05
fbondhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=306303:05
fbondjust need one more!03:05
=== Fujitsu sniffs suspiciously at the IronPython sitting in NEW.
=== Hobbsee impales StevenK
TheMusoIs it possible for anybody to view the new queue?03:06
=== Hobbsee impales StevenK with her sharp pointy stick of DOOM!
HobbseeTheMuso: sure.03:06
=== Fujitsu protects StevenK.
StevenKOww! That really hurts03:06
TheMusoHobbsee: Whats the URL?03:06
FujitsuStevenK's a DD! You can't hurt him! He's holy! (and no, not because you poked a hole through him with your stick, Hobbsee!)03:06
HobbseeTheMuso: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue03:06
Hobbseewas just grabbing it03:06
HobbseeFujitsu: hehe.  sure i can.03:07
TheMusoCheers.03:07
=== StevenK concentrates and uses the power of the matrix to heal thyself
=== TheMuso decides to weigh in wit his weapon of choice... His cane!!!
imbrandon<sugar> nm, i cant reason with yall. but im right03:07
imbrandon<sprinkles> s/right/wrong/03:07
TheMusos/wit/with/03:07
=== Hobbsee breaks TheMuso's cane in two
FujitsuWhat? You don't need the power of the matrix, StevenK! The power of Debian should work fine.03:07
imbrandons/debian/ubuntu03:07
StevenKNot at the moment.03:07
=== TheMuso pulls out a cane ten times stronger, but the same thickness.
=== StevenK is not very happy with Debian in general at the moment.
FujitsuTitanium, ey?03:08
TheMusoThat was just window dressing.03:08
=== Hobbsee destroys the new cane too
=== Fujitsu steps on Hobbsee.
=== StevenK hands TheMuso a cane made from duratanium
=== imbrandon bans the use of /me
=== Hobbsee axe murders Fujitsu and impales him on her LONG POINTY STICK OF DOOM!
=== Hobbsee bans imbrandon
FujitsuAs per normal...03:09
FujitsuBut a long one!?03:09
FujitsuSince when have you had one of those?03:09
TheMusoHobbsee: All an illusion my dear. WHat you actually broke was your own arm.03:09
=== Fujitsu is suspicious.
HobbseeFujitsu: of course.03:09
HobbseeTheMuso: heh.  i surely didnt do that.03:09
imbrandonyou think thats air your breathing ?03:09
=== Fujitsu attempts to point to a portion of Hobbsee's arm lying on the floor some metres away, before realising he's dead.
Hobbseehah03:09
StevenKimbrandon: you're, dear03:09
FujitsuThanks, StevenK!03:10
FujitsuBut that's my job.03:10
HobbseeFujitsu: you're dead.  YOU CANNOT PRETEND TO BE ALIVE WHEN YOU'RE DEAD!  NOW STAY DEAD!03:10
=== Hobbsee shines her evil red eyes around the room
TheMusoWhile the cane appeared to break, it actually projected an illusion of the break, while a very sharp blade neatly sliced through your arm, without you noticing.03:10
=== StevenK happens to have proof of those evil red eyes.
Hobbseehahahaha03:11
KyralHOBBSEE!03:11
HobbseeStevenK: point.03:11
=== Kyral super bounces Hobbsee
HobbseeKYRAL!03:11
=== Hobbsee glomps Kyral
=== Fujitsu runs away at the sight of Kyral.
=== Fujitsu goes to bed now.
KyralHeheh I think I started a KDE subdivision in the Clarkson Open Source Institute03:11
TheMusoSo Hobbsee. You still haven't eliminated one of the threats. A word of advice. Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them03:11
HobbseeTheMuso: arms are overrated anyway.  so are fingers.03:11
HobbseeTheMuso: the threats?  who's threatening me now?03:12
=== Hobbsee sets the cane on fire.
Hobbseeno more cane.03:12
TheMusoHobbsee: If you had to use those fingers to read, you would not say that so quickly.03:12
=== StevenK removes TheMuso's speakup and replaces it with a mis-configured emacspeak.
=== Fujitsu burns Hobbsee at the stake.
FujitsuStevenK, nice.03:12
StevenKHobbsee: That ^ works much better03:12
HobbseeStevenK: hehe, indeed03:12
=== Hobbsee highfives the recently resurrected StevenK
TheMusoAh. But I can still see what is displayed on the screen.03:12
=== StevenK returns the highfive
HobbseeTheMuso: point.03:12
=== Fujitsu steals TheMuso's monitor's power cable.
=== TheMuso pats his Braille display.
=== Hobbsee trips the power to TheMuso's house
TheMusoStill got that.03:13
=== StevenK M-x bury-buffer's TheMuso's IRC window
=== TheMuso fires up his notebook and steels some neighbour's wireless access.
=== Fujitsu throws some stones at various people.
=== Fujitsu steals TheMuso's laptop's battery.
TheMusoI win!03:14
Fujitsu(and any spares)03:14
=== TheMuso shoves in another battery and keeps going.
=== Hobbsee watches as TheMuso's laptop battery malfunctions, and blows up his entire computer.
FujitsuAh, but is it a Sony battery?03:14
=== TheMuso pulls out the trusty mobile, and connects to an ssh account
Kyralcat /dev/null > {TheMuso, Fujitsu}03:14
KyralI win03:14
HobbseeKyral: nice.03:15
FujitsuI do deserve being nullified, yes...03:15
=== Hobbsee notes that that's expired again, so you have to reconfigure it.
=== TheMuso can *NEVER* be nullified.
Kyral...03:15
Kyral*TWITCH*03:15
KyralYou seem to misunderstand the situation03:15
KyralI didn't get sleep last night due to frats03:16
KyralYou wanna know how close to BOFH mode I am? :P03:16
=== StevenK hands Kyral a cattle prod
StevenKThis should help03:16
KyralFuck caddle prod03:16
FujitsuPlease, use it on me. I deserve it!03:16
=== Kyral pulls a lightsaber
StevenKPfft03:17
=== TheMuso draws his own.
tsengsettle down folks03:17
StevenKI prefer technology that exists03:17
KyralFujitsu:  we don't need to know about your fettishes03:17
Fujitsu... or not.03:17
TheMusoDisguised as a cane.03:17
StevenKTheMuso: A lightsaber wouldn't work too well as cane.03:17
FujitsuSure it would.03:18
FujitsuIt'd cut through any obstacles :P03:18
TheMusoStevenK: You didn't pay much attention to my illusions before did you.03:18
StevenKBut it wouldn't tell you were the damn obstacles were.03:18
=== TheMuso slices through StevenK's midrift.
=== Fujitsu continues to apologise profusely to Kyral, and now really goes to bed.
StevenKTheMuso: As a DD, I am immune to illusions03:18
TheMusoAh. But I have other sences for that.03:18
TheMusoSo. The all-powerful dd will help you now will it?03:19
TheMusoWe'll see about that.03:19
StevenKdd if=/dev/zero of=TheMuso03:19
StevenKOh wait03:19
StevenKsudo dd if=/dev/zero of=TheMuso03:19
Hobbseelol03:19
TheMusoTheMuso: input/output error03:20
StevenKTheMuso: Bored now.03:20
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TheMusoflay?03:20
StevenK(Yay! A Buffy joke)03:21
TheMusopfft03:21
FujitsuGoodnight, everybody.03:21
FujitsuThanks Hobbsee :)03:21
StevenK  flay03:21
StevenK       v : strip the skin off03:21
TheMusoOh really. Do you think that this bulk only has one layer of skin? Try again.03:22
=== StevenK suggests TheMuso watch Season six Buffy to see how it works
TheMusoGive up guys. You can't kill me.03:22
TheMusoStevenK: I'd really be able to do that.03:23
StevenKOh well03:23
HobbseeTheMuso: remember that balcony, from SLUG?03:24
Hobbseehow'd you like to try falling off there?  :P03:24
Hobbseethat would kill you03:24
TheMusoWhich balcony?03:24
Hobbseethe lifts are out of order.  so are the stairs.03:24
HobbseeTheMuso: the one outside the room about webbrowsers03:24
TheMusooh that one.03:24
StevenKThe Sluglets room03:24
TheMusoYes of course I would suffer fatal injuries from that. But I am referring to my alter ego me.03:25
Hobbseeyeah03:25
Hobbseehehe03:25
Hobbseewell, we'd start with the first, adn then work on hte second.03:25
ctdTHAT DEATH WILL COST $60703:25
StevenKctd: Well worth it03:25
ctdPLEASE PAY TO UTS ROOM HIRE03:25
TheMusoheh03:25
Hobbseectd: heh.  you reside here too, do you?03:26
Hobbseectd: found another place yet?03:26
StevenKThe last death I had to pay for cost more than $607 :-P03:26
Hobbseehehe03:26
ctdis there a place I don't reside? >_>03:26
StevenKHobbsee: Yeah, his lounge room,03:26
StevenKs/\,//03:26
HobbseeStevenK: and the body is hidden under your cellar?03:26
HobbseeStevenK: oh nice.03:26
TheMusoRemind me never to go near Blacktown area again.03:26
Hobbsees/under/in/03:26
HobbseeTheMuso: quite smart, you probably shouldnt be there anyway03:26
TheMusoI wondered what I was smelling all those years I went to that area.03:26
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StevenKHobbsee: Hmph03:27
ctdTheMuso: never go near blacktown area again03:27
HobbseeStevenK: :P03:27
thomwhat is this, invasion of the aussies?03:27
TheMusoI certainly won't now03:27
=== Hobbsee makes a note not to go to blacktown again either
tsenggood morning thom03:27
TheMusothom: And proud of it!03:27
tsengyou've entered the AOL quasi-mud room03:27
Hobbseethom: indeed.  WE WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:27
Hobbsee:P03:27
tsengi told them a bit ago to chill out03:27
tsengto no effect03:27
ctdWE'RE IN YOUR CHANNELS. DISCUSSING OUR SUBURBS.03:27
Hobbseetseng: no absolutely none.03:28
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imbrandonok i'm off for the night, yall might think about ##offtopic03:28
thomHobbsee: by working at all the bars? riiiight03:28
imbrandongnight all03:28
Hobbseenight imbrandon03:28
Hobbseeimbrandon: surely not.03:28
thomtseng: hey dude03:28
Hobbseethom: working at a bar would be scary.03:28
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thomHobbsee: you're australian. it'll happen to you soon enough. probably in london03:29
Hobbseethom: id' be drinking, or sitting around talking.  not working there.03:29
Hobbseethom: why  london?03:29
thomHobbsee: because i think about 75% of australia is working in bars in london03:29
StevenKEvery bar in London seems to be staffed by Aussie backpackers03:30
Hobbseethom: ah riht.03:30
Hobbsee*right03:30
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Hobbseegeser: for libmysqlclient15-dev, you can just depend on that, you dont need to depend on libmysqlclient15-dev | libmysqlclient-dev, seeing as the latter doesnt exist04:12
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Hobbseehey Arbiter04:18
Hobbseelast i knew, anyway :P04:18
Arbiterheya Hobbsee04:19
Arbiter:)04:19
ArbiterHobbsee: knowit was uploaded \o/04:19
HobbseeArbiter: yay :)  i saw it in NEW04:19
Arbiterand, this morning, i've translated the UWN 12 :)04:19
Arbiterand now i'm recompiling emacs-cvs :P04:20
ArbiterHobbsee: how are you? ;)04:21
HobbseeArbiter: i'm okay :)04:21
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pefhello04:45
Adri2000'lo04:45
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bddebianHeya gang05:28
phanatichey bddebian05:30
bddebianHi phanatic05:31
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geserHobbsee: libmysqlclient-dev is a virtual package and apt-cache search lists libmysqlclient{10,12,15}-dev as providing them05:39
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ show libmysqlclient-dev05:39
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$05:39
geserapt-cache search libmysqlclient-dev05:39
StevenKsteven@liquified:~% apt-cache show libmysqlclient15-dev | grep Prov05:40
StevenKProvides: libmysqlclient-dev05:40
Hobbseetrue.  i believe we hard code the libmysqlclient15-dev packages.  we have in the past,anyway05:40
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Sp4rKyplease how could i regenerate a debian/ when i've only orig tarball + .dsc ?05:43
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HobbseeSp4rKy: dpkg-source -x the .dsc as usual05:44
Sp4rKythx05:44
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Amaranthanyone know why mozilla depends on dpkg?06:21
thomAmaranth: presumably to ensure that it has a specific feature introduced in the version of dpkg it depends on06:22
thomAmaranth: hence a virsioned dep06:22
thoms/vir/ver06:22
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Adri2000how can i be sure that i can upload to revu ? i don't know if my gpg key has been added06:32
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Adri2000ping ajmitch raphink siretart : can you tell me if my gpg key is accepted for revu and if not, sync ubuntu-universe-contributors and revu please06:45
fbondAdri2000, have you tried uploading anything?06:45
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Adri2000not yet06:46
fbondI suggest not worrying about the key until you actually have a problem uploading.06:46
fbondIt would be easier to debug.06:46
fbondThe password recovery feature of revu does not always work properly (I understand a newer version of the software is on its way ...), so that is not a good indicator of your key status06:47
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Adri2000i understand that i will receive the password when i will have uploaded a package, so it's not the problem. but i don't want to upload the package if it is rejected because my gpg is not yet authorized :-)06:51
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tsengStevenK: ok to force upgrade of ggi?07:19
tsengThe following packages will be REMOVED: libgii0 libgii0-target-x07:20
tsenglooks ok to me07:20
tsengyeah07:20
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ash211<Ubugtu> New bug: #59663 in libgpod (main) "Please build without gdk-pixbuf/gtk" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5966307:36
UbugtuMalone bug 59663 in libgpod "Please build without gdk-pixbuf/gtk" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] 07:36
ash211Is this in the MOTU domain?07:36
ivoksnope07:38
ivokslibgpod0 is in main07:39
ash211should it be changed in debian or ubuntu?07:39
ash211(if it should be changed at all)07:39
ivoksbug is reported07:39
ivokssomeone will take a look at it07:39
ash211ok, thanks07:39
ivokshm... this is needed for amarok?07:42
ash211for amarok to interact w/ ipods07:43
ivoksright07:43
ivokshm... why does it need gtk in the first place? :)07:44
ash211i'm not quite sure07:44
ash211that's the comment I left on the bug page07:44
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ivoksthat's topic for main developers07:48
ivoksit should be splited to -gtk and -nogtk version, if gtk is really needed for something07:48
ivoksi don't see why amarok should depend on gtk :/07:49
ash211me neither07:50
ash211but that's the way it's done in debian too07:50
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AnAntanyone here ?08:31
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lotusleafo_o08:34
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AnAntmay someone have a look at those uploads: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3005 , http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2984  and  http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=257308:36
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Adri2000problem when trying to dput to revu :09:43
Adri2000gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.09:43
Adri2000gpg: the signature could not be verified.09:43
Adri2000Please remember that the signature file (.sig or .asc) should be the first file given on the command line.09:45
Adri2000i don't have any .sig or .asc, and the wiki says to give the .changes09:46
crimsunyou would dput foo_source.changes, yes09:51
crimsunthe dsc and _source.changes must be signed using your gpg key09:51
thomAdri2000: install devscripts and use debsign09:53
Adri2000ok09:56
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Adri2000hmm, i'm not sure to understand everything. what should i dput ? files which are in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ or thoses in the directory where i created the package ?10:00
crimsunthe source package in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ should match what's in $(pwd)/..10:01
Adri2000the .deb is in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ but not in ~/packaging/djplay/, files in /var/... are not signed but they are in ~/packaging/...10:03
Adri2000(because debuild signed them with debsign)10:03
crimsunyes, the [binary package]  deb doesn't matter10:03
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crimsunyou can only upload source packages to revu, e.g., orig.tar.gz+dsc+diff.gz+_source.changes10:04
crimsunyou must build with -S -sa, in other words10:05
Adri2000ah ok, the .deb will be created by the motu who will upload the package to archive.ubuntu.com ?10:05
Adri2000yes, i use -S -sa10:05
crimsunno10:05
crimsunwe only upload source packages to a staging area; the publisher will pick up the source packages and toss them to the buildds that will generate the binary debs10:06
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Adri2000ok10:08
Adri2000Successfully uploaded packages. :-)10:10
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Adri2000crimsun: my package is in incoming, what's next ?10:12
ajmitchmorning10:12
crimsunmoins, ajmitch10:12
crimsunAdri2000: you sit tight10:13
Adri2000it must be accepted by a revu admin ?10:13
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Adri2000my package is now on the revu page, good :)10:35
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bddebianHeya gang10:53
ajmitchhello bddebian10:58
bddebianHeya ajmitch, what's shakin?10:58
ajmitchnothing10:59
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