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whazillasethk i got ubuntu live dvd12:01
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sethkwhazilla, yes, I know, and you are trying to mount a partition on your disk drive?12:01
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whazillak hda12:01
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whazillais thera probe tool ?12:01
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Blak`Mamba!google nvidia12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
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sethkwhazilla, yes, but there are easier ways.12:02
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sethkwhazilla, from the command line, try this:12:02
whazillatell me12:02
nozorro!nvidia12:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:02
whazillai fucked up trying to set paths for eclipse12:02
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bamzin!flash12:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:02
Jack_Sparrow!language12:02
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:02
sethkwhazilla, fsck -n /dev/hda112:02
raphaHi all!12:03
sethkwhazilla, and paste the output of that to the paste web site.12:03
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raphaDoes somebody know if Ubuntu patches its Dapper kernel with Linux-PHC?12:03
harleypigafm\colo: looks like I have to run make (and make test) first as well12:03
whazillak i'll join on diff nick12:03
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fatbrainHello, do I need a software firewall, and if so, which should I get?12:03
afm\coloharleypig: you use checkinstall instead of make install, yes12:03
harleypigso it's really to replace the sudo make install with a debian package?12:03
nozorrofatbrain: no, if you don't install server programs12:03
afm\colofatbrain: no, you don't need such a thing12:03
Jack_Sparrow!firewall > fatbrain12:03
afm\coloand if you would, there is always netfilter12:04
fatbrainThanks.12:04
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Jack_Sparrowfatbrain: For normal use you dont need to bother12:04
whazillait says12:04
fatbrainyes, thanks, I only have like a ftp server that I and my only friend uses.... hah!12:04
whazillacould this be a zero-length partition12:04
whazillao012:04
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whazillaafter saying superblock read error12:05
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whazillasethk12:05
OmniDHi!!!12:05
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Jack_Sparrowfatbrain: Firestarter or Guarddog are both good IPTable managers12:05
sethkwhazilla, hmm.  do this and put it on the paste site also:    fdisk -l /dev/hda12:06
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whazillafdisk line just returns to bash12:07
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whazillawithout output12:07
sethkwhazilla, it can't.  the command is:    fdisk -l /dev/hda12:07
bluefox83whazilla, man fsck.ext312:07
whazillaah12:07
sethkbluefox83, he's not sure of the file system type.  that's why I told him to do fsck, not fsck.ext312:08
afm\colodmesg | grep "[sh] d[a-z] "12:08
fatbrainJack_Sparrow: Thanks.12:08
sethkbluefox83, fsck will automatically determine the file type,12:08
PathagenXHEY! bluefox83 XD12:08
afm\coloto see what disks actually are there12:08
whazillabluefox83 it returns fsck version and returns to bash12:08
sethkbluefox83, unless it's utterly borked  :)12:08
Jack_Sparrowfatbrain: Any time... Just ask12:08
jake1how can i get more resolutions for my display?12:08
sethkwhazilla, ok, first you said it did nothing (false).  now you say something else.  Just paste the output to the paste site, so we can see what it really does.12:08
bluefox83sethk, actually if it's not ext3 it will tell him and then exit :p12:08
jake1it's using the vesa driver12:09
jake1but my card is a SiS M760GX12:09
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PathagenXwhazilla, unmount the disk (if you can) and then fsck -a /dev/hda112:09
whazillasethk i got one extended12:09
Jack_Sparrowjake1: Post your xorg to the pastebin so we can see what video setup you have12:09
sethkbluefox83, true, but it's still better to do it the other way, because he'll find out what it is, not just what it isn't.12:09
whazillaone linux and one linux lvm12:09
sethkwhazilla, some reason you can't paste it to the paste site?12:09
jake1Jack_Sparrow: where is my xorg12:09
jake1?12:09
whazillayah12:09
whazillaon diff pc12:10
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Jack_Sparrowjake1: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup makes a backup)12:10
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tuxtuxnotte a tutti12:10
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bamzinhi there. i'm having some trouble when trying to run any flash movie/animation/youtube video on my firefox. when a page has a flash the browser suddenly closes without noticing.. im using dapper drake, anyone can help me?12:10
fuzzyNeedsHelpwhat does the Load "dri" stand for in the xorg.conf12:10
PathagenXjake1, xorg settings files are in /etc/X11. xorg files are all in /usr/X11**12:10
sethkwhazilla, ok.  if you have lvm running, you will have a hard time trying to use if from the live cd.  why in the world are you using lvm when you have only one disk?12:10
fuzzyNeedsHelpbecause its not in the example12:10
lupine_85fuzzyNeedsHelp: direct rendering interface12:10
WelfareQueenAny web developers here?12:11
lupine_85you don't generally need it - you normally use glxi nstead12:11
PathagenXWelfareQueen, Yo12:11
fuzzyNeedsHelpcould that be cousing my dualscreen not to work?12:11
kdittyi have a folder on my desktop that i have pictures in that i want to delete, but i dont have privlages to do so. how do i cahnge that?12:11
sethkWelfareQueen, sure.12:11
jake1actually i gotta go now........ sorry..... i'll figure this out later12:11
jake1but i'll paste the output to pastebin anyways12:11
jake1!pastebin12:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:11
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Jack_Sparrowkditty: gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus --no-desktop/media      Use with care...12:12
lupine_85fuzzyNeedsHelp: it probably isn'y anything to do with it, but it wouldn't hurt to commend the lines out instead12:12
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lupine_85comment*12:12
lupine_85erm, s/instead/anyway12:12
zorlacIs there a way to run custom commands on boot?12:12
WelfareQueenI was wondering how Digg and other sites have the article names as the URL with no page reference. It would seem you would need a folder for every story but that doesn't sound right. Is ther some kind of lookup they do?12:12
bluefox83yes12:12
lupine_85zorlac: /etc/rc2.d12:12
zorlacthanks12:12
jake1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2295512:12
afm\colorather /etc/rc.local @ zorlac12:12
lupine_85see existing scripts for examples12:13
jake1Jack_Sparrow there it is12:13
bnovcI've tried to install ubuntu on a friend's laptop that currently has a copy of windows on it, I assumed the installer would resize the windows partition and use the remaining space (which it says it will) but it says "not enough space to install" or something similar to that12:13
bnovcWelfareQueen: mod_rewrite in apache12:13
afm\coloWelfareQueen: possibly rewrite rules12:13
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jake1seemingly the max is 1024x76812:13
lupine_85when does rc.local get called?12:13
whazillaso can u pm me a way to mount the lvm in write permission somehow ?12:13
whazilla^^12:13
jake1mine goes slightly higher12:13
bluefox83what do you want it to do on bootup? make the floopy drive spit fireworks and play stars and stripes?12:13
jake1but i'm not sure of the max12:13
afm\coloat the end of the default runlevel, lupine_8512:13
lupine_85ah, cool12:13
sethkWelfareQueen, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  paste one of the URLs.  If it's one line, you can paste it here, more than one line paste on the paste web site12:13
lupine_85that's handy to know12:13
bnovcsethk: he means mod_rewrite12:13
WelfareQueenmod_rewrite! I shall look it up12:14
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burkwhere in the repos are the urxvt debs?12:14
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zorlacrc.local automaticly runs, i hope, and anything i type is equivilant to typing it into terminal?12:14
erUSUL!info urxvt12:14
afm\colourxvt rules supreme.12:14
ubotuPackage urxvt does not exist in any distro I know12:14
WelfareQueensethk - http://www.digg.com/tech_news/A_Reality_Check_for_Vista_A_Day_Late_A_Dollar_Short12:14
afm\colozorlac: yes, it's a mere shellscript.12:14
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zorlacdo i have to sudo, afa?12:14
WelfareQueenI assume "A_Reality_Check_for_Vista_A_Day_Late_A_Dollar_Short" is not a folder12:14
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MystaMaxanyone using swiftfox on a Intel dualcore?12:15
sethkWelfareQueen, that's just a file named A_Reality_..._Short.html12:15
whazilla:$12:15
afm\colozorlac: commands run by init are run in the context of root12:15
erUSUL!info rxvt-unicode12:15
uboturxvt-unicode: RXVT-like terminal emulator with Unicode support. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-1 (dapper), package size 994 kB, installed size 2320 kB12:15
zorlacthanks12:15
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burkthanks erUSUL12:15
RMorris85what is the best usb 2.0 tv tuner card to use in ubuntu? anybody got any experience with such on a laptop12:15
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WelfareQueenSo Digg has hunderds of thousands of files. One for each story?12:15
erUSULburk: yw12:15
Fuzzthis is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2295612:15
jake11280x800 is the max12:15
jake1i think12:15
sethkWelfareQueen, that's the usual way to do it, yes.12:15
Fuzzim trying to get dualscreen to work again12:15
jake1something like that12:16
cello_rasphow do i check which ports i have open?12:16
Fuzzbut its just not working anymore12:16
sethkWelfareQueen, better than thousands of directories  :)12:16
afm\coloWelfareQueen: no12:16
Jack_Sparrowjake1: Yes you are running vesa driver, I did find this link that may be of some help..  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5743012:16
whazillasethk i will post tomorrow12:16
whazillato tired now12:16
afm\coloit has a RDBS unter its hood12:16
sethkwhazilla, k12:16
kdittyJack_Sparrow, would you happen to know how i can gain write access to my hard drive? its hooked up and working and i can read it but i just cat write to it because i dont have privlages12:16
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lupine_85sethk: but not as good as a structured directory tree ;)12:16
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afm\colotake a look at Ruby On Rails, it implements a similar concept12:16
sethklupine_85, true ... :)12:16
Jack_Sparrowkditty: IS it ntfs?12:17
rc55Hi - I've got four new drives I've added to my ubuntu install. They are formatted, and they have mount points in /mnt, however I cannot write to them unless I am root, how do I change permissions so I can write to them?12:17
jake1thanx Jack_sparrow12:17
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Jack_Sparrowjake1: Wish I could do more12:17
sethkcello_rasp, netstat -na | egrep '^tcp'12:17
erUSULrc55: in fstab add the option user12:17
agenteoanybody here installed vim7 on dapper?12:17
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jake1that's ok12:18
jake1i cnt do more right now anyways12:18
sethkcello_rasp, to get just listeners:12:18
jake1thanx anyways12:18
sethkcello_rasp, netstat -na | egrep '^tcp' | grep LISTEN12:18
Fuzzthis is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22956 . Can someone tell me what im doing wrong? I'm trying to get dualmonitor to work.12:18
Jack_Sparrowkditty: Do you know the format of the drive you want to write to?  Is it your XP install?12:18
agenteoI've followed a doc to backport it from edgy but the build screw up..12:18
erUSUL!info vim12:18
ubotuvim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB12:18
cello_raspvery neat. must learn how to use pipes. thanks sethk12:18
WelfareQueenSo to sum up: its thousands of files and not mod_rewrite which allows you change the URL on the fly?12:19
erUSULagenteo: you have vim 7 in the Seveas repo12:19
erUSUL!seveas > agenteo12:19
rc55erUSUL: thanks, I'm rebooting now :)12:19
harleypigafm\colo: thanks for putting up with my questions ... checkinstall is failing because no version is put in ... if the currently installed version is 0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 would I be safe in doing 0.svn20060908-personal1 ?12:19
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afm\coloharleypig: as checkinstall packages lack dependency infos, you should not care too much12:19
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kdittyJack_Sparrow, its its extended 3 no xp on the drive now12:19
dade`someone who has a macbook with ubuntu here ?12:20
afm\coloi'd just call it mplayer-svn or whatever12:20
erUSULrc55: no need to reboot just remount the disks12:20
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bluefox83Fuzz, you have input device info in your server layout..12:20
QvazzlerI can't hear my mic in teamspeak, it seems like I have muted everything. I know the mic is working but I know that I have tampered abit with my sound settings. Is there any way to reset my sound configuration?12:20
harleypigafm\colo: I see, thanks.12:20
Jack_Sparrowkditty: So it is an EXT3 other than your Ubuntu install correct?12:20
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kdittyyes12:20
kdittyJack_Sparrow, yes12:21
afm\coloQvazzler: remocing /etc/asound.state should do it12:21
Fuzzbluefox83:  what kind of info should there be?12:21
phyburn_should I do anything special if I am trying to install ubuntu on a SATA drive? Because I keep getting kernel panics12:21
Qvazzlerafm\colo: do I reboot after that?12:21
bluefox83Fuzz, server output info..not keyboard info..12:21
phyburn_I am using the 6.06 installer12:21
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rc55erUSUL: It didn't work, can I paste you the fstab lines privately?12:21
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rixxondoes dapper include SELinux?12:21
afm\coloQvazzler: relogin should suffice12:21
Jack_Sparrowkditty: gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup)12:21
harleypigafm\colo: fyi, it needs a number in the version12:21
bluefox83Fuzz, you need to sort your info correctly, your keyboard info wont tell it how to handle the screen..so it's pointless to have it there12:22
erUSULrc55: use a pastebin and post here the url12:22
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afm\coloharleypig: ah ok12:22
afm\coloi usually don't use distros using either of those formats ;)12:22
kdittyJack_Sparrow, the line reads "/dev/hdd1 /media/storage ext3  defaults 0 0" right now12:22
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Fuzzahh ic12:22
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harleypigafm\colo: thanks again for the    help12:22
Fuzzit was in the example like that so i just put it in12:22
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rc55erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/16473312:22
afm\coloyou're welcome12:23
phyburn_does anyone know if I should do some thing special if I am installing ubuntu on a SATA drive with ver 6.06.1 LTS12:23
lupine_85phyburn_: just replace all references to hd?? with sd??12:23
rc55phyburn_: I didn't have to do anything special12:23
lupine_85that's it12:23
Qvazzlerafm\colo: cant find asound.state12:23
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sethkphyburn_, if you are installing grub on an IDE drive, then no12:23
andreshi12:23
phyburn_lupine_85 how do I do that. THe reason I ask is because i keep getting kernel panics12:23
sethkphyburn_, that's a serious problem.12:24
Fuzzbluefox83:  so getting rid of that keyboard and mous info should make it work then?12:24
phyburn_unable to mount root fs on unknown block12:24
sethkphyburn_, there are some sata chipsets with problems12:24
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lupine_85phyburn_: it wouldn't affect that, at all12:24
lupine_85dodgy driver, more likely12:24
bluefox83Fuzz, might..i've never done the ati setup for dual monitor support12:25
lupine_85try updating to a later kernel and see what happens12:25
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Fuzzwell i have, but i had to redo it12:25
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Fuzzand im still not sure about half of what im doing12:25
bluefox83Fuzz, just sort it out..put the keyboard and mouse info in their respective places...12:25
phyburn_okay thanks12:25
Fuzzbut i seem to get it to work in the end12:25
lostincIs there an easy way to update to gnoe 2.16?12:25
lupine_85if that fails, your best bet is to report a fault with the Ubuntu kernel team12:25
Qvazzlerhow do I reset alsamixer?12:25
gnomefreaklostinc: nope12:25
lupine_85lostinc: wait until edgy is stable? :)12:25
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liquidten2lostinc: Absolutely not.12:26
lin_christyhi my sound just randomly stopped working... i tried to adjust it in every way shape and form as i can but nothing... can someone help?12:26
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erUSULrc55: my aproach to the problem was wrong, sorry. better make with sudo dirs in the partitions and make them writtable by users (give permision to the group users or your own user)12:26
lupine_85!gnome in edgy12:26
ubotugnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB12:26
gnomefreaklostinc: wait untill edgy is released12:26
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Fuzzit is actually.. its just a referrence12:26
gnomefreaklupine_85: !gnome edgy12:26
lostincis it that much better then 2.1412:26
lupine_85ah :)12:26
FuzzyLaptopbut ok12:26
lupine_85!gnome edgy12:26
ubotugnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB12:26
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=== FuzzyLaptop is fuzz btw
iliketoprogramcan anyone suggest a good page for getting devc++(bloodshed) or another good C++ ide running on ubuntu?12:27
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lupine_85bugs--12:27
FuzzyLaptopnope that didnt do the trick12:27
rc55erUSUL: Sorry, I'm not clear what you mean. Are you suggesting I chmod the mount points?12:27
FuzzyLaptopnope that didnt do the trickgui12:27
FuzzyLaptopbut atleast it didnt crash my GUI12:27
erUSULiliketoprogram: kdevelop, anjuta, vdk builder... *emacs*12:27
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sethkiliketoprogram, I use anjuta, which is in the ubuntu repositories12:28
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bluefox83FuzzyLaptop, read your xorg logs, they will point you to the problem, then google for the solutions :)12:28
livingdaylightusing cfdisk how do i assign sdb to partition rather than sda. It comes up with sda but i want to partition sdb12:28
JDahliliketoprogram, I dont use it, but I think eclipse has a fairly advanced c++ plugin12:28
iliketoprogramthanks erUSUL!   also, thank you sethk!   I have kdevelop, i'll bugger with it... and I'll install anjuta and check it out =)     emacs is ok but i really enjoy extensive file system interface, as well as autocomplete and easy linking, etc12:29
Jack_Sparrowkditty: I want to say 0 2 not 0 0 but I dont have a second ext3 to try12:29
iliketoprogramJDahl, thanks =)  i just installed eclipse and was like, 'hey, it's for java!' -  I'll check out the plugin12:29
erUSULrc55: with the option user you can manually mount the part. and if you do so with your user you will be able to write to it. problemis that the partitions get mounted on boot with root privs. My sugestion is that you create folders on the mounted partitions with sudo and make them wirtable by any user12:29
sethkiliketoprogram, kdevelop has some good features.  eclipse is also good, but better at java than at c++12:29
nozorrolivingdaylight: 'cfdisk /dev/sdb'12:30
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livingdaylightthx,  nozorro12:30
iliketoprogramlooks like i'll have to dig my heels in and try to get it working.. do i have to recompile it for ununtu, or  is there a synaptics package out there for it?12:30
kdittyJack_Sparrow, ill try it. once i edit the fstab do i need to reboot?12:30
iliketoprogramoh, by it i mean: kdevelop12:30
sethkiliketoprogram, it's in the repositories12:31
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zorlacsay i need to run dmraid to allow my raid drives to mound, and i want to mound them through fstab, how do i run the dmraid command before fstab mounts them?12:31
iliketoprogramsethk: thanks!12:31
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bluefox83zorlac, mount, not mound :P12:31
zorlacyes yes mount =\12:32
bluefox83someone's mind is in the gutter ^_^12:32
zorlactrue.12:32
bluefox83heh12:32
iliketoprogramuh oh...    Package kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:32
zorlacbut anyways, should i just mount the raid drives through rc.local instead of fstab?12:32
bluefox83zorlac, no12:32
bluefox83zonum, did you already create an fstab entry?12:33
zorlaci'm creating it now12:33
zorlacnot for the raid drives yet, though12:33
iliketoprogramfstab should do it if you do it right, i think12:33
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zorlacwell, i need to run the command "dmraid -ay -f pdc"12:33
zorlacbefore it sees the partition.12:33
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bluefox83ooooh12:34
iliketoprogramis kdevelop not the name for the release for synaptics?12:34
bluefox83well..then maybe you do O.O12:34
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bluefox83iliketoprogram, no12:34
zorlacso i might not be able to fstab it =[12:34
sethkiliketoprogram, I'll check, but it said "is referred to by another package", so it's a package name12:34
bluefox83iliketoprogram, synaptic not synaptics12:34
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iliketoprogrami forgot an apostrophe =D sorry12:35
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StoneNoteI bet you forgot Poland too12:35
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sethkiliketoprogram, I show the package name as  kdevelop312:36
JDahliliketoprogram, apt-file iis a very useful command-line tool for searching the repositories12:36
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FuzzyLaptopwow cool, i made my system>preferences>screen resolution give an error12:36
FuzzyLaptopXD12:36
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iliketoprogramthank you sethk, and thank you too JDahl..  that is indeed a very useful command line tool, and i wish i'd learned of it sooner!12:37
zorlacIs it BAD to mount a hd through rc.local?12:37
sethkJDahl, true, only  kdevelop is not a file in the kdevelop package12:37
FuzzyLaptop"The X Server does not suppor the XRandR extention. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.12:37
iliketoprogramzorlac, what reason do you have for doing it?12:37
NsOmNiAccan someone point me to a good site for getting a higher screen resolution in Ubuntu ?12:37
Lysithow do you fire up the xfce desktop from command line? I know how to stop the gnome desktop12:37
zorlacilike, i need to run a dmraid command before linux sees my raid partition.12:37
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nozorrozorlac: it then gets mounted very late in the boot process12:37
agenteolet's say you have the same package in two different versions. How do you choose the one to install from apt-get? do you need aptude or other tools? thanks12:38
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melon|utohapologies for being so vague - but i don't know specifics.. i'm getting "hw-random: RNG not detected" when i try to install ubuntu - any common reason for this?12:38
bluefox83NsOmNiAc, go to System->Preferences->Screen Resolution12:38
idefixI made a jpg file and opened it locally with firefox, np, then uploaded it to a server and it won't open because it contains errors... what's this? something wrong with the FTP-program?12:38
lupine_85agenteo: apt-get install <packagename>=<version>12:38
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iliketoprogramzorlac, sorry, I can't help you there =(12:38
lupine_85melon|utoh: it's a kernel message - it's looking for a hardware random number generator, and not finding one12:39
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lupine_85unsurprising, really. most people don't have one12:39
Lilandrahi12:39
drezhahi12:39
NsOmNiAcbluefox83, yeahh I know about that but my card and monitor support higher than 1024x76812:39
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NsOmNiAcand that's the highest it has in the list12:39
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drezhawas wondering if anyone else is suffering what appears to be random blackouts on 6.061?12:39
agenteothanks lupine_8512:39
lupine_85is it stopping you from installing?12:40
bluefox83NsOmNiAc, i unno..google screen reslotuin ubuntu12:40
sethkdrezha, describe "blackouts".12:40
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jirihavelka NsOmNiAc: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:40
bluefox83*resolution12:40
nozorro!fixres12:40
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:40
drezhamy screen will go blank, but it sounds like the PC's still on12:40
ubuntu_hi12:40
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Lilandralupine_85: i hae a question and HI12:40
melon|utohwell - i get that one and it's followed directly by "cxacru 11:1.0: cxacru_atm_start: CHIP_ADSL_LINE_START returned -110"12:40
drezhano key presses or moving mouse will do anything12:40
drickhello guys...12:40
melon|utohi initially thought they were connected.. now i'm not so sure12:40
NsOmNiActhanks12:40
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sethkdrezha, I have talked to several people having similar problems12:40
ubuntu321hey12:41
dricki need assistance with upgrading dapper to edgy...12:41
Flanneldrick: #ubuntu+112:41
drezhaah so it's not just me?12:41
sethkdrezha, can you ping the machine from another node on your network?  assuming you have a network, that is.12:41
drickFlannel: thanks man12:41
lupine_85drick: visit <insert place of worship here> beforehand12:41
sethkdrezha, no, not just, although it appears to be rare.12:41
drezhaI've not tried that no12:41
sethkdrezha, try it.  that will tell us whether the display died, or the entire machine died.12:41
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dricklupine_85: hahaha, why?12:41
SunRayCafedoes the Dapper Drake server install use PHP 4.3 or 4.4?12:41
drezhawell I've restarted the PC and I'm typing on it ;)12:41
sethkdrezha, also, try the caps lock key.  If it's dead the box is very likely dead also.  try both, the ping, and the caps lock12:42
zorlac"Couldn't mount device '/dev/mapper/pdc_dicjjjaebg5': Operation not supported12:42
zorlacWindows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again."12:42
sethkdrezha, you'll have to wait for it to mess up.12:42
zorlacSorry for doubble paste =[12:42
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lupine_85'cos it's not stable yet12:42
drezhayeah12:42
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drezhaI was considering dropping back to 6.06 because I had no trouble with that12:42
paws\hi12:42
Lilandralupine_85: remember me? and my kernel panic? if i use the live cd and the swap is bad or something...won't it use the same swap?12:42
Crippy-BoyHi all, I compiled a new kernel (vanilla 2.6.17.11) And any package i try to install now i get unmet dependencies (kernel-image-686, linux-image-2.6.15-26-686). Why?12:42
Flanneldrick: 6.06 is 6.06.112:42
Flanneldrezha, even12:42
drezhait's not overheating either.12:42
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drickFlannel: okie...12:43
Flanneldrezha: .1 is just a culmination of a few patches, repackaged into an iso, so you have less to download once you install12:43
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drezha6.06 ran fine..then I downloaded the 6.06112:43
lupine_85Lilandra: the live CD won't touch your hard drive at all12:43
drirhas anyone here used "bitchx-gtk"?12:43
drezhadam..if I knew that I would have wasted a disk :p12:43
Lilandralupine_85: but doesn't it recognize the swap partition and use it?12:43
Flanneldrezha: heh, if you were up to date with 6.06, you downgraded going to .1 ;)12:43
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Crippy-Boydrir: No but im using bitchx if its a generic question?12:43
cyphasewasn't the Official Ubuntu Book going to be available for download?12:43
Lilandrabecause i always have to unmount it12:43
sethkdrezha, don't update immediately when something becomes available.  don't update at all unless there is a good reason.12:43
lupine_85Lilandra: no. hence why it's a live CD12:43
drezharight12:44
drirCrippy-Boy, because i installed the package, but i dont know how to load it!12:44
Lilandralupine_85: so why do i always need to un mount swap?12:44
SunRayCafeQuestion about server: does the Dapper Drake server install use PHP 4.3 or 4.4?12:44
Flanneldrezha: try updating all your packages, see if it fixes itself again12:44
drezhaso potentialliy I'll suffer these random blackouts for a while12:44
sethkLilandra, swap partitions are not mounted, so you don't need to umount them12:44
sethkLilandra, why do you think you need to umount?12:44
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drezhaI must have updated something else at one point because my sound likes to play up when using Skype and other programs12:45
FlannelSunRayCafe: 4.4, if you want to still use 412:45
Lilandrasethk: well, when i try to resize it, it says it's in use but all the other partitions aren't. maybe it's not umount but i have to turn it off12:45
SunRayCafeFlannel: thanks.12:45
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thedashI am trying to get lm-sensors working, as it seems to fail every time Itry12:46
sethkLilandra, you can't resize it while it is in use.  that's perfectly reasonable.12:46
sethkLilandra, but resizing it doesn't make any sense in the first place.12:46
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Crippy-Boydrir: type bitchx in terminal and press tab, See what options you get12:46
Lilandrasethk: but how is it in use if i have a livecd?12:46
sethkLilandra, unless you mean you created one that is too small, and you are trying to use something like gparted to modify the size12:46
Lilandrasethk: i had to resize/move it to resize my /12:46
sethkLilandra, it scans your hard drives to find swap partitions12:46
drezhaif it carries on blacking out, I might have to consider using FC5 :S12:46
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nozorrosethk: can't he do swapoff?12:46
sethknozorro, yes, of course12:47
Crippy-BoyHi all, I compiled a new kernel (vanilla 2.6.17.11) And any package i try to install now i get unmet dependencies (kernel-image-686, linux-image-2.6.15-26-686). Why?12:47
Lilandrasethk: right so the livecd uses the swap?12:47
NsOmNiAcdoes Ubuntu not support NVIDIA ?12:47
drirCrippy-Boy, pressing tab does nothing12:47
sethknozorro, he's complaining because he has to do swapoff12:47
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FlannelNsOmNiAc: it does12:47
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Crippy-Boydrir: press it twice.12:47
sethkLilandra, yes12:47
erUSUL!nvidia > NsOmNiAc12:47
NsOmNiAcwhich Xserver driver Flannel ?12:47
drezhaNsOmNiAc - you can download better drivers though12:47
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FlannelNsOmNiAc: see the link ubotu sent you12:48
Lilandrasethk: but lupine_85 just said it didn't use it because it's live!12:48
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erUSULNsOmNiAc: althought the correct question would be does Nvidia not support ubuntu12:48
sethkLilandra, who are you going to believe, him or your own eyes?12:48
drirCrippy-Boy, nothing lol12:48
hc2995ummm when i try to do sudo apt-get i get something saying "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."12:48
Lilandrame!12:48
Lilandrawhich is why i asked my other question12:48
erUSULCrippy-Boy: have you romved the original ubuntu kernel?12:48
idefixoh it's probably chmod again12:48
lupine_85sethk: does it?!12:48
lupine_85that's not very well-behaved of it12:49
Crippy-BoyerUSUL: yes.12:49
viatorhc2995 so run the command!12:49
sethklupine_85, yes, it scans IDE drives.  I don't like it either12:49
hc2995i did ./'dpkg --configure -a and got "directory dosent exist"12:49
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viatorno12:49
viatorno ./12:49
sethkhc2995, you put a single quote between / and dpkg?12:49
lupine_85sorry Lilandra, I was wrong12:49
hc2995no12:49
Crippy-Boydrir: tried "whereis bitchx-gtk"?12:49
hc2995sorry i just copy pasted12:49
Lilandrano problem lupine_8512:49
sethkhc2995, also, as viator says, it's not in the current directory12:49
bluefusionxlhello everyone!  I am going to be starting a free shell/hosting service soon.  I was wondering, can people read other people's files?  If so how would I prevent that?  I will have lots of vital passwords in my php scripts and I can't have people having access to that.12:49
bluefusionxlGive me any other tips you may have also12:50
hc2995howard@DELL:~$ ./dpkg --configure -a12:50
hc2995bash: ./dpkg: No such file or directory12:50
hc2995howard@DELL:~$12:50
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sethkbluefusionxl, in general, no, but doing that would be insane.12:50
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bluefusionxlwhy is that?12:50
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Flannelbluefusionxl: file permissions12:50
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drirCrippy-Boy, just says "bitchx-gtk:'12:50
hc2995what directory is it in?12:50
erUSULCrippy-Boy: why? it seems that all packages depend on it why not keeping it oraund just in case (i use custom compiled kernels too but have not removed the ubuntu one)12:50
viatorjust  sudo dpkg --configure -a12:50
Flannelhc2995: no ./  just the dpkg line, dpkg is a command12:50
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Lilandraso lupine_85: if the livecd uses the swap (and something's wrong with the swap partition) mightn't it give same errors?12:51
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drezhalooks like I'd updated all the packages this morning12:51
lupine_85it might do, yes12:51
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ramtheushello and QUESTION: How do I get dvdShrink to read my dvd drive. No way to use winsetuptk since it's been removed from Universe. any way around it?12:51
lupine_85best bet is to run swapoff as early aws possible12:51
drezhaand it blacked out about 5 minutes ago12:51
sethkbluefusionxl, because people hack and potentially get around the o/s security.  ALL passwords on the disk must be encrypted.  Very basic security rule.12:51
Flanneldrezha: have you restarted since the update?12:51
Lilandraah! ok lupine_85..thanks :)12:51
sethkbluefusionxl, principle, not rule.12:51
drezhayes12:51
rapiscanHey all, does anyone have any experience with the xorg.conf or xinerama?  This seems very trivial, but I have extended desktop working, but the monitors are flipped and I can't get them to (right is on left, and vice versa)..  I can't just physically move the monitors, or it will be flipped for OSX.12:51
hc2995howard@DELL:~$ sudo dpkq --configure -a12:52
hc2995sudo: dpkq: command not found12:52
hc2995howard@DELL:~$12:52
Flannelhc2995: dpkG not Q12:52
drezhacouple of times it crashed during the day12:52
erUSUL!paste > hc299512:52
bluefusionxlseth, how do I tell if they are encrypted?12:52
hc2995thats a g12:52
sky123Hi guys...I have openldap authentication working properly. HOWEVER..I dont want to authenticaticate over plain text and need the portion with TLS/SSL working. Does anyone know if there is support for TLS/SSL with the slapd that comes with ubuntu?? Also specific to the support...how do you set it up?? use the snakeoil certs?? or??12:52
hc2995yes?12:52
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sethkbluefusionxl, if you edit the file, and you can read the password, it's not encrypted.12:52
yohanwhich tool do i use when compiling source to make a .deb file nowagain?12:52
drezhacrashed when I tried to change options in tux racer and when loading a UT2k4 level as well12:52
yohanso i can install with dpkg instead12:52
bluefusionxlWould that not mess up adduser and other scripts that automatically add users?12:52
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rapiscanAnybody familiar with xinerama?12:53
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bluefusionxlif I encrypted it?12:53
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sethkrapiscan, lot's of people are.  ask a more specific question12:53
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Flannelbluefusionxl: you don't encrypt the file, you use encryption, and the whole system will use that encryption for passwords12:53
rapiscan(18:51:59) rapiscan: Hey all, does anyone have any experience with the xorg.conf or xinerama?  This seems very trivial, but I have extended desktop working, but the monitors are flipped and I can't get them to (right is on left, and vice versa)..  I can't just physically move the monitors, or it will be flipped for OSX.12:53
sethkbluefusionxl, no, look in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.  you'll see only encrypted passwords.12:53
yohanso i can install with dpkg instead12:53
sethkFlannel, or store the encrypted password in an ordinary file.12:53
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JohnFluxHey all!12:54
sethkrapiscan, look at the "left of" and "right of" options12:54
ulrikftHey!12:54
sethkrapiscan, in the server layout in xorg.conf12:54
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ProN00banyone got a good solution to play FLV files ?12:54
bluefusionxlseth, i don't see anything that even looks like a password in that file12:54
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isaac_hey everyone, got a question about a certain screensaver:  I was flipping through the available ones and when I got to the fiberlamp screensaver it just locked up, and my question is why you guys think that might be... I've run this screensaver on other disros okay, and my computer is fairly good12:54
sethkrapiscan, let's you, as you might expect, set the second screen to be to the left, or to the right, of the first.12:54
ramiroecjust a question: is there a live cd, only to view Divx, DVD, .... ?12:54
JohnFluxI upgraded to edgy, and now windows machines that connect via my machines (setup for nat )  can't use windows live messenger12:54
bluefusionxlI dont notice any hash either12:54
sethkProN00b, no, sorry, not my area.12:54
drezhapro noob - mplayer12:54
rapiscanYessir, this seemed like the obvious answer, but changing these options does not actually change when I reboot.12:54
yohan!dpkg12:54
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.12:54
ulrikftI'm going to do my first fresh ubuntu-install now. it is a few years since i used linux, mostly been using freebsd/osx/windows lately. Any typical things I should keep in mind, or is it farily simple?12:55
erUSULProN00b: i use xine or mplayer even totem can play some of them12:55
hc2995lol12:55
JohnFluxanyone heard about upnp?12:55
hc2995that was a q12:55
JohnFlux!upnp12:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
erUSULJohnFlux: yes12:55
hc2995i thought i hit g lol12:55
Flannelrapiscan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo12:55
sethkbluefusionxl, you don't see a nonsense string on each line of /etc/shadow?  (or /etc/passwd, if you aren't using shadow)12:55
drezhaProN00b- Download Mplayer via Synaptic. Works a treat12:55
JohnFluxerUSUL: do i need to set it up or something for windows msn to work via nat?12:55
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Jack_Sparrowulrikft: Does the live cd work ok?12:55
Flannelrapiscan: there's a bit in there about "SErver Layout"  and then some "Right of" stuff, etc12:55
viatormoral of this story dont use windows messenger12:55
nano-loverQuestion!: How do I run a .bin file?12:55
JohnFluxerUSUL: i'm trying to work out why msn isn't working through the ubuntu nat server12:55
viatorheheh12:55
nano-loverviator: EVER!12:55
rapiscanFlannel, thanks for the link, but I've already tried changing RightOf to LeftOf, and I've also tried changing the orders of the screens.12:56
PeacefulDo I need to do something special to get the edubuntu install cd to boot on a PIII server w/SCSI disks?  It just hangs on me.12:56
ulrikftJack_Sparrow: dunno yet, I just had an old freebsd-cd lying around, so I installed a basic freebsd, burning the ubuntu-cd now.12:56
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erUSULJohnFlux: ask in a windows channel but yes upnp can be used to autoconfigure ports for nat if the router support it12:56
ulrikftJack_Sparrow: hopefully it will work ok, freebsd did not like my sata at all.. :/12:56
bluefox83JohnFlux, because microsoft made it?12:56
sethknano-lover, unix doesn't use file extensions to mean anything.  however, if it contains a script or a program, use    chmod +x filename.bin12:56
Jack_Sparrowulrikft: See how it runs and how it handles your hardware12:56
sethknano-lover, then, do  ./filename.bin12:56
ProN00bdrezha, what are you on ? mplayer can't seek in FLV files12:56
rapiscanI've also tried changing the monitors that are associated with the screens, and flipping those.12:56
ulrikftJack_Sparrow: ok, will do.12:56
sethknano-lover, that's with filename.bin in the current directory12:56
nano-loversethk: That is why I love you :)12:56
drezhano program can seek in FLV file12:56
nano-loverhehe12:56
ulrikftJack_Sparrow: have quite ordinary hardware.. dual core 2, sata.. kind of thing.12:56
ProN00berUSUL, totem is shit and doesn't work for me12:56
erUSULJohnFlux: i do not know how to enable it in ubuntu12:56
bluefusionxlI see encrypted passwords on my user accounts and root that I created.  But the service accounts don't have anything that looks like it.  For example my gdm is12:57
bluefusionxlgdm:!:13353:0:99999:7:::12:57
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sethkrapiscan, left of and right of work.  Paste your xorg.conf, with and without the right of (or left of) modifier, and we'll see why it isn't working for you.12:57
ulrikftwill come back to you guys in the time of rest of the burnprocess and one ubuntu install... :P12:57
Jack_Sparrowulrikft: What video card?12:57
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erUSULProN00b: use shine and also...12:57
ulrikftJack_Sparrow: gforce 7600GS12:57
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ulrikfthmm or GT.. *checks12:57
bluefusionxlis that lower encrption?12:57
erUSUL!language > ProN00b12:57
ProN00berUSUL, what ?12:57
drezhaPronoob...you might want to convert the FLV files12:57
erUSULProN00b: xine12:57
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ulrikftJack_Sparrow: 7600GS PCX12:57
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Mangixhow do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one12:57
Jack_Sparrowulrikft: You should be good to go.. Wireless cards are another problem area..12:57
drezhaguide here12:57
drezhahttp://my.opera.com/fbsd/blog/show.dml/43006712:57
sethkbluefox83, no, the ! means that the password is in /etc/shadow, usually12:57
rapiscanWhen booting the default monitor is my left (for OSX, for yaboot, for the booting sequence), but as soon as x is launched it seems to make right screen the default screen, regardless of which screen I have set to what and what is "LeftOf" and "RightOf".12:57
ProN00bdrezha, thats a shitty solution12:57
ulrikftah, I have an onboard intel card, works nice under Fbsd, so I would imagine that it will do?12:58
lupine_85well, depending on the wireles card :)12:58
drezhadont have a go at me. I'm trying to help you here12:58
ProN00berUSUL, you think xine will play them and seek in them ?12:58
ACUhow can I run setup.php script for phpmyadmin? if I do I get a permission denied (even as root)12:58
lupine_85intel... the ipw ones?12:58
rapiscanThen the other screen is extended, off o my right screen.12:58
ulrikftthanks by the way Jack_Sparrow :)12:58
rapiscanSethk, you want me to just paste it here?12:58
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Jack_Sparrownp12:58
sethkbluefox83, sometimes it says x; it's just a placeholder.12:58
Mangixhow do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one12:58
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drirbitchx-gtk:12:58
sethkrapiscan, no, on the paste web site.12:58
bluefusionxlseth, I am in /etc/shadow12:58
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erUSULProN00b: it does for me in the ones i have tried12:58
ulrikftrapiscan: pastebin12:58
sethk!paste12:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:58
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ProN00berUSUL, are you sure you are talking about flv files ? it doesn't work a bit for me12:58
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lupine_85erm, ulrikft: is it an ipw chipset?12:58
apecat!ati12:58
erUSULProN00b: i have installed w32codecs12:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:58
FlannelProN00b: flv are flash files, you should be able to only have flash, and play them12:58
Graighello. does anyone know why my SSH connection to my mom's computer would just stop working?  i have no idea why. and i have her ip address right.12:59
bluefusionxlseth, I believe that my passwords are secure anyhow, do you know any other tips that I should do if I was going to make a public access server?12:59
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erUSULProN00b: yes flv the ones you can dl from youtube and other flash sites12:59
lupine_85Graig: define not working?12:59
sethkbluefusionxl, I mention passwords because you talked about passwords in php files12:59
driranyone at all ever use bitchx-gtk?12:59
Graiglupine_85: its just not connecting at all.12:59
lupine_85is sshd still running?12:59
rapiscanOk, thanks.   I will paste it in just one moment.  I am going to try LeftOf one last time and reboot so you will see that I have it in this configuration.  Then I will be back and paste the config.12:59
Mangixhow do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one12:59
sethkbluefusionxl, you can make files available to only the owner, or to the owner and group, or to everyone12:59
Graiglupine_85: i try to connect and it just sits there.12:59
erUSULFlannel: flv is a container format much as avi or ogg12:59
sethkMangix, same way you set the permissions of a file01:00
ubuntu321Hey how do you change your userlogin password? Ive changed my root passwrd but can't seem to change the one when you boot up ubuntu and it asks for your username then password, i can't change that one???01:00
sky123Any familiar with openldap TLS/SSL support for openldap in Ubuntu??01:00
lupine_85ok, can you telnet to the port?01:00
yohanwhich tool do i use when compiling source to make a .deb file nowagain?01:00
sethkMangix, us unix snobs say directory, not folder.  :)01:00
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erUSULFlannel: i do see those files with xine01:00
Mangixsethk, allright01:00
Graiglupine_85: with telnet?01:00
ulrikftsethk: well, my old teacher would smack my head when i said "folder"01:00
meikeHello. (:01:00
sethkubuntu321,  sudo passwd username01:00
lupine_85erm, yes01:00
nozorroubuntu321: System > Administration > Users and Groups01:00
ulrikft"folder is what you deliver your homework in, it is called a DIRECTORY!"01:00
bluefusionxlsethk, whats the command to logout?  Im going to logout and try a account i created to see if its available to see my index files01:00
Mangixsethk, so how do i do it? i'm not sure how to change the permissons of a file either01:00
lupine_85so telnet <the-ip-address> 2201:00
pfeinumm, any tips on installing on a box without a bios?01:00
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ulrikft"kids these days"01:00
ulrikftor, something like that.01:00
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sethkbluefusionxl, in a shell?  just exit01:00
nano-loverpfein: ...01:00
ulrikftok, trying to install now.. ;)01:00
ulrikftlaters.01:00
lupine_85that'll let us distinguish between network and software errors01:01
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bluefusionxlokay, thanks01:01
Graiglupine_85: does she have to be running a telnet service or something?01:01
drezhaMangix chmod +x filename+path01:01
pfeinnano-lover: really, it doesn't have a bios01:01
bluefusionxloh shoot, it closed my shell...01:01
Jack_Sparrowpfein: Please describe your hardware01:01
bluefusionxlgotta reopen putty01:01
lupine_85not if you specify the port manually (22)01:01
sethkbluefusionxl, you can do this:   sudo su username        to become any user01:01
Mangixdrezha, thanks01:01
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viatoris it a mac01:01
bluefusionxlthank you01:01
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lupine_85all we're doing is seeing if you can contact that port01:01
pfeinJack_Sparrow: It's a toshiba libretto L5 (japanese).01:01
sethkbluefusionxl, saves a lot of logging in and out.  :)01:01
AMGIhello01:01
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ubuntu321nozorro: thank u very much01:02
Adamwee I had a libretto01:02
ProN00bhow can i see the files a package contains ?01:02
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Jack_Sparrowpfein: My old toshiba had a very odd key combination to get into the setup routine01:02
AMGIcould i ask for some help from a nice user :)?01:02
erUSULProN00b: dpkg -L package01:02
pfeinJack_Sparrow: it's "legacy-free" - has a menu to pick a boot device & that's it.01:02
Graiglupine_85:  it says colud not resolve01:02
Mangixdrezha, chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/lib/opera/plugins': Operation not permitted01:02
bluefusionxlseth, it looks like my dummy account can ready my index files01:02
erUSUL!ask > AMGI01:02
pfeinJack_Sparrow: it'll boot from a USB floppy, but not a USB CD.01:02
lupine_85Graig: there's your problem then.01:02
ProN00berUSUL, and for packages not installed ?01:02
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sethkbluefusionxl, ok, then you need to do this:     chmod a-r filename01:03
lupine_85the domain name you're using isn't valid, or DNS is broken somewhere01:03
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bluefusionxlseth, should I make a group for the public users and is there a way to set access limitations on that group?01:03
Graiglupine_85: did her internet service provider block me or something?01:03
viatorpfein01:03
sethkbluefusionxl, or, to do an entire directory:   chmod -R a-r /filename01:03
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viatoruse pxe01:03
lupine_85Graig: no01:03
Jack_Sparrowpfein: what about a flashstick01:03
lupine_85it's just in general01:03
sethkbluefusionxl, after that you'll have to do   chmod u+r filename01:03
pfeinviator: ugh, I was afraid you were gonna say that...01:03
lupine_85maybe she has a dynamic IP and it's changed?01:03
viatorthats how ya have todo it01:03
sethkbluefusionxl, better I think to do     chmod g-r filename          and then             chmod o-r filename01:03
pfeinJack_Sparrow: haven't tried... maybe USB HD, but I doubt it.01:03
Graiglupine_85: i wonder if her service provider blocked me totally then.01:03
sethkbluefusionxl, so you don't have to do    chmod u+r filename01:03
AMGIwell i was thinking of installing ubuntu as my second O/S, on the same disc i have windows, so i guess i could make a quick partition with partition magic, but i was wondering if there was any smooth way of doing this dual boot easy ? since i know ubuntu doesnt likew ntfs ? :o01:04
lupine_85Graig: it's nothing to do with a block01:04
lupine_85you're just knocking on the wrong door, as it were01:04
sethkbluefusionxl, a means "all", g means group, u means user (the file owner), o means other01:04
pfeinJack_Sparrow: would I just expand the ISO to the HD/stick?01:04
Graiglupine_85:  your saying i have the wrong ip address?01:04
lupine_85yes01:04
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nozorroAMGI: dual boot works fine if windows is on ehte first disk partition01:04
sethkbluefusionxl, if you set a file's permissions to:    -rw-------    then only the owner can read and write it01:04
lupine_85or domain name, since resolution is failing01:04
Jack_Sparrow!install > pfein01:04
sethkbluefusionxl, with   -r--------   then only the owner can read it, and nobody can write it.01:04
erUSUL!dualboot > AMGI01:05
AMGInozorro but what about ubuntu not liking ntfs ? :o01:05
lupine_85presumably it's something like 123-123-123-123.blah.blah.com ?01:05
bluefusionxlseth, I would like to make a usergroup only able to read their own files.  How would I accomplish that?  I dont want people to see other people's files either01:05
nozorroAMGI: writing to ntfs is not possible still01:05
lupine_85AMGI: read-only access for now01:05
Graiglupine_85:  that shouldn't be right, i had my dad go to the myipaddress site. and it came up with the same ip address that i get from her domain address.01:05
nozorroAMGI: reading is ok01:05
AMGI:s01:05
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SubhumanAMGI, it is possible to write with extra software (google "ntfs3g" if your interested)01:05
Flannelbluefusionxl: you don't need a usergroup, use owner not group01:05
kitcheAMGI: linux support of ntfs is iffy01:05
AMGIi cant make another file system on one part of the disc, that would mess things up when i want to remove that partition :s01:05
lupine_85Graig: the problem is the domain name. that's it.01:05
sethkbluefusionxl, the permissions     -rw-r-----  makes the file read/write for owner, read only for group, and inaccessible for everyone else01:05
ProN00berUSUL, it says w32codecs is not avaiable, what repo is it in ? (i think i got everything enabled but backports)01:05
Subhumankitche, not with ntfs3g, its pretty sage.01:05
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Subhumansafe*01:06
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AMGIwithout loosing any of the info from the first partition01:06
nozorroAMGI: there's a win app out there which reads/writes certain linux partitions01:06
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sethkSubhuman, for file systems, pretty safe means unsafe.01:06
sethkSubhuman, you can't be a certain amount safe, you are either safe, or not safe.01:06
erUSULProN00b: in seveas'01:06
Subhumansethk, well i mean safe full stop then01:06
Graiglupine_85: but, it wont connect to her ip address either.01:06
kitcheSubhuman: well all of ntfs is unsafe if I remember it can get correputed real easy01:06
erUSUL!seveas > ProN00b01:06
sethkSubhuman, ok.01:06
AMGInozorro hmm :o01:06
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sethkSubhuman, I haven't tested it myself.01:06
Subhumankitche, look up ntfs3g, its pretty well documented and alot of benchmarks etc.01:07
sethkSubhuman, is the file extension problem fixed?01:07
erUSULProN00b: also you can dl them from mplayer page and do a manual install01:07
ProN00berUSUL, can you gimme a list of its contents, because i installed a codecs pack from mplayer, and i think thats the same i just need the location01:07
Subhumanit replaces ntfsprogs.01:07
viatorProN00b needs to change his sources.list01:07
ProN00berUSUL, gimme the folder they go in01:07
viatorProN00b should goto the sourceomatic site01:07
aLPHa_LeaK n801:07
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bluefusionxlseth, so could I just chmod the /home directory so only the owner can read it?01:07
Subhumansethk, i think so, there are still a few limitations, but nothing major (doesnt handle ntfs file permissions etc)01:07
ProN00berUSUL, can you really seek in flv files ?01:07
bluefusionxland chmod my other file directories to root?01:08
bluefusionxlor owner?01:08
kitcheSubhuman: it doesn't do writing though which is what some people want01:08
viator!sourceomatic01:08
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:08
erUSULProN00b: yes they are the same as the ones in mplayer page /usr/lib/win3201:08
sethkSubhuman, ok.  the file extension problem is the big one.01:08
Graiglupine_85: is it possible that the ssh service somehow blocked me?01:08
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Flannelbluefusionxl: you could.  Although, you can just chmod the files themselves01:08
Graiglupine_85: or does it have an error message?01:09
viatorProN00b generate a new sources.list01:09
viatorusing the site the bot listed01:09
hikenboothello all---anyone know what this means? ERROR: SlavePool: No communication with slave. when copying files from one drive to another with konqueror?01:09
ProN00berUSUL, and you can seek in flv files ?01:09
ProN00bare you sure ?01:09
pfeinJack_Sparrow: eh, a few links I missed on the install page the first time, I'll try a few approaches.  thanks01:09
bluefusionxlI think I may set my permissions like that then01:10
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Jack_Sparrownp01:10
bluefusionxlWhy is it that when I use adduser, it creates a new group for every user01:10
bluefusionxlcouldnt I just put all my people in a usergroup called public?01:10
AMGInozorro if i have a 250gb disc with ntfs and windows on it, just one partition, what is the easiest way do you think to make 15gig to ubuntu and that 500mb swap partition to ubuntu without loosing any of the information on my c drive as i have my music and documents etc there01:11
Jack_SparrowAMGI: Partition Magic or Gparted01:11
Crippy-BoyAMGI: Resize the partition with GParted then make partitions in the free space01:11
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rixxonUbuntu using SELinux?01:11
nozorroAMGI: not sure, partitionmagic i guess. i think there's also a part. resizing app on the live cd01:11
erUSULProN00b: i have checked again and you are right i can see them with xine and mplayer but can not seek01:12
AMGIGparted is free ?01:12
Jack_Sparrowyes01:12
isaac_can anyone tell me a good java development environment to use for ubuntu?  used to use jgrasp but it doesn't seem to like Linux01:12
rapiscansethk (and anyone else that might be interested) I don't think that I stated my problem very well.  The issue is that I need to make my "Primary" screen on the left and not on the right.  Switching "LeftOf" and "RightOf" works fine, but the application menu and login are on the right screen.  I need to make the left screen the primary screen.  I have uploaded my xorg.conf to pastebin.01:12
Crippy-BoyAMGI: Yes.01:12
rixxonisaac_: eclipse?01:12
hondjeisaac_: Eclipse is popular01:12
nozorroAMGI: partition manipulation is always somewhat dangerous, make backups ...01:12
isaac_okay, thanks, I'll try Eclipse01:12
FuzzyLaptophmm i put driver "fglrx" in the device section in the xorg.conf file... and its failing on that01:12
AMGIits kinda hard making 200gig backup without any free space to back it up on :( :( :(01:12
sethkrapiscan,ok, let me look at it.01:12
Crippy-BoyAMGI: You can either use the GParted live cd or i believe its on the ubuntu 'Desktop' live cd.01:12
kitcheisaac_: Eclipse might not be what your looking for it's acts different then Jgrasp might have to read a lot of docs01:13
nozorroAMGI: well burn cd's or dvd's maybe01:13
sethkrapiscan, give us the URL of the paste01:13
mcphailbluefusionxl: read "man adduser" and edit /etc/adduser.conf01:13
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AMGICrippy-Boy i want a prog that i can use from windows to do this, as i dont have the ubuntu live cd, i just dl'ed the install image from their site01:13
Crippy-Boyisaac_: Netbeans?01:13
rapiscanoh sorry, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2295901:13
sethkisaac_, eclipse is excellent for java01:14
FuzzyLaptopso if fglrx and ati dont work, what can i fill in to make it work then?01:14
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AMGInozorro thats alot of cds :s01:14
Crippy-BoyAMGI: You're not going to be able to resize directly in windows as the partition will be mounted01:14
sethkFuzzyLaptop, file the AGP slot with a different card01:14
Crippy-BoyAMGI: The GParted live cd is pretty small.01:14
FuzzyLaptop?01:14
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AMGICrippy-Boy thought partition magic could do that, but it cant switch to anything other then ntfs filesystem01:14
Gevaudan82Hello all...on debian based distros like Ubuntu where would one put a http to https rewrite condition?  in apache2.conf or 000-default?01:14
FuzzyLaptopare you telling me to just use a different videocard?01:15
FuzzyLaptoplol01:15
ulrikfthmm, I'm having a slight problem making a ubuntu-bootable cd with burncd.. or so it seems.01:15
Crippy-BoyAMGI: I dont *THINK* You'll be able to resize the partition while inside windows.01:15
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sureshothey all sorry to bother but can someone give me the syntax for me to install a .bin file01:15
brian98Hi All just got a new 750gb SATA and was wondering should I reinstall,  use ghost, or is there another way? Also when I do is there a way to resize partitions etcc.. Actually scrub that google is my friend there  I'm sure.....01:15
Gevaudan82sureshot: chmod + x binfile && ./binfile01:15
FuzzyLaptoplol well "radeon"didnt work01:15
sethkrapiscan, can you reverse the cables at the video card?01:15
viatorno use the gparted live cd01:15
sureshotthanks01:15
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viatordefrag windows first01:15
viatorthen boot to the cd01:16
viatorand resizw01:16
Crippy-BoyYup.01:16
AMGIwish i had another disc to install on :(01:16
Crippy-BoyAMGI: Which ubuntu cd did you download?01:16
rapiscanThat's the thing, I can't physically change them (although that's a perfectly fine solution).  I'm not the only one that uses this computer, and OSX won't let me change the primary monitor either (I already tried).  I was going to leave ti this way, flip the monitors, and change it in OSX, but no dice.01:16
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FuzzyLaptophow can i see what display driver im using?01:17
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Gevaudan82fuzzy: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:17
sethkAMGI, partition magic shrinks your ntfs partition; why can't you use the recovered space?01:17
AMGICrippy-Boy desktop install for amd 6401:17
rapiscanI know it seems trivial, but I've always worked with desktop on the left, extended desktop on the right, and it seems like it would be very easy to fix this... I have tried every combination I can think of though.01:17
FuzzyLaptoplol01:17
mckinnojguys quick question01:17
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Crippy-BoyAMGI: Then GParted is on there.01:17
mckinnojhow do i add another user account ?01:17
ulrikfthmm, I'm doing burncd -v -e -f /dev/acd0 -s 24 -t data /usr/home/ulrikft/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso fixate01:17
sethkFuzzyLaptop, in the /var/log/X.....     log file.   I forget the name but it's the only one in that directory that starts with capital X01:17
rapiscanI've tried switching screen numbers in the device section, switching monitors in the screen section, etc.01:17
AMGIsethk cause Crippy-Boy said i couldnt shrink with partition magic :s01:17
ulrikftdoesen't that seem ok?01:17
Crippy-BoyAMGI: I said i doubt you could did it while in windows since the partition is already mounted, thats all.01:18
mckinnojhow do i add another user account ?01:18
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Crippy-Boyadduser?01:18
mckinnojcan anyone help me out please?01:18
mckinnojyes01:18
nozorroFuzzyLaptop: also in the "Driver" Secton in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:18
mckinnojadduser?01:18
mckinnojhow?01:18
viatorsystem>administration>users and groups01:18
Gevaudan82mckinno: don't repeat...go under System - adminstration -users groups01:18
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sethkrapiscan, I'm still a bit confused.  what does osx do when you exchange the cables?01:18
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viatoror from the  cli adduser01:19
rapiscanWell, OSX thinks the left monitor is the primary monitor (which is the way it should be) So OSX puts the desktop on the left, and extends it to the right.  Switching cables would flip this setup.01:19
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FuzzyLaptopthing is, im working on my xorg.conf and its not working with any drivers i use, and its telling me that the problem is in that line01:19
FuzzyLaptopbut i dont see any problem in it01:19
rapiscanWhile moving the monitors in the display options could fix this, then in OSX the right hand monitor would be the primary monitor.01:19
sethkrapiscan, oh, I see, the problem is that the order of use of the monitor outputs are different.01:19
thedashlm-sensors is smarter than me01:19
sethkrapiscan, linux is using one order, and osx the reverse order.01:20
FuzzyLaptopall i could think of is that my fglrx drivers broke for some reason01:20
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AMGICrippy-Boy if i resize the partition from the ubuntu install cd, how big a risk do i take of loosing all the info from the disk ?01:20
nozorroFuzzyLaptop: well you are sure your card is supported?01:20
FuzzyLaptopit worked before01:20
rapiscanRight, and I can't seem to get Ubuntu to think that left is the primary monitor.01:20
sethkrapiscan, hmm, let me think01:20
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FuzzyLaptopits a radeon 960001:20
FuzzyLaptopshould work fine01:20
Crippy-BoyAMGI: As with any time you mess with the partition table, Quite high01:20
nozorroFuzzyLaptop: BusID option helps sometimes01:20
nozorroFuzzyLaptop: for ati i mean01:20
AMGIfuck :(01:20
DBOAMGI, language01:21
AMGIsorry01:21
rapiscanThat really is the primary monitor, yaboot config outputs data to this monitor when selecting boot options (the left).01:21
AMGI=/01:21
Kill_Xhi there01:21
sethkAMGI, I second that.  ALWAYS back up before mucking around with partitions.01:21
rapiscanBut as soon as X launches, login screen is on the right, as if right were primary.01:21
sethkAMGI, however, everything should be backed up anyway; if it isn't you are asking for trouble.01:21
kaosxAMGI look into setting up LVM and consider adding a disk or partition that way01:21
Kill_XI got a serious and vital problem tonight...01:21
sethkrapiscan, yes, I see.  I'm still considering ...01:21
rapiscanSerious and vital, that sounds rough.01:21
AMGIif i wasnt a poor student i would just buy another hdd :s01:22
FuzzyLaptophmm it seems to be the busid indeed01:22
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FuzzyLaptop2 monitors using the same id01:22
FuzzyLaptopthat cant be right01:22
BlackPawnI've got a problem trying to install Ubuntu, when I boot from the cd and start the installation process, it goes through the long list of checks, the final check says failed, and before I have a chance to read what failed, the screen goes black...??01:22
nozorroAMGI: scan your disk and you'll see that you can part with some files :-)01:22
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Crippy-BoyAMGI: Im sure you'll be fine, Ive never had a problem, EVER, its just the risk is there and whether you wanna take it or not.01:23
ulrikftg_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)] error = 5 <- wtf?01:23
sagarpthe icons in my run-dialog dont match the rest of the icons...how can i change that?01:23
FlannelBlackPawn: grab the alternate ISO, no liveCD before install01:23
Kill_Xmy system (dapper 6.10.1, Kernel 2.6.16-26 I guess) refuses to mount my root-fs on lvm volume group "Ubuntu", LV Ubuntu-root01:23
rapiscanFuzzyLaptop, I am no expert, but looking at my own config (ATI 9800 pro), I have two monitors on the ame busID, since it's from the same card.01:23
AMGInozorro i only have important stuff ^_^01:23
nozorroAMGI: i second that01:23
brian98Hi All just got a new 750gb SATA and was wondering should I reinstall,  use ghost, or is there another way? Also when I do is there a way to resize partitions etcc.. Actually scrub that google is my friend there  I'm sure.....01:23
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Kill_Xon bootup01:23
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sethkrapiscan, right, it is only one device on the pci bus, otherwise it would be trivial01:23
FuzzyLaptopahh01:23
nozorroAMGI: Crippy-Boy's opinion i mean01:23
AMGIhm well installing partition magic now :s01:23
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livingdaylightcan someone tell me how to format my hardrive?01:24
FuzzyLaptopill see what it does now, who knows01:24
livingdaylightcfdisk doesn't do that01:24
livingdaylighti'm in live cd01:24
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livingdaylighti need to format sdb01:24
kaosxumm01:24
mcphaillivingdaylight: cfdisk is for making partitions01:24
kaosxmke2fs?01:24
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Kill_Xit goes through kernel startup very well, but after execution of /scripts/premount (pre-init) it throws an exception saying the device /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist01:24
livingdaylightmcphail: thtas right, so how do i format01:24
pharcvdewho do i contact for edgy requests?01:24
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dibblego!themes > dibblego01:25
mcphaillivingdaylight: use one of the mkfs commands01:25
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nozorrolivingdaylight: which kind fo file system?01:25
varsendaggrhey where are the plugins for inkscape?01:25
kitchelivingdaylight: cfdisk is just a paritioner01:25
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kaosxmke2fs does most of the popular ones01:25
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mcphaillivingdaylight: i would recommend mke2fs -j01:25
livingdaylightnozorro: it doesn't matter for now. I just need to be able to get back into sda which i can't access, so i need to just format sdb01:25
sethkrapiscan, are you up for a source code patch?   building xorg is a real bitch, though.01:26
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Kill_Xlvm modules have been successfully loaded, though, and both my LVs (swap partition, root partition) have been recognized01:26
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rapiscanHmm, did you find a solution?01:26
Kill_Xanyone got some hint? :S01:26
livingdaylightbasically, i just need to wipe the system that is on my sdb so i can access again sda01:26
sethkrapiscan, if you are willing to change source code and rebuild the X server, it isn't terribly difficult.01:26
JDStoneI'm getting a message that says I need to configure LIRC when I start it01:26
JDStonecan someone please help me?01:27
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rapiscanI don't think I can do it tonight, but sure I'm game.  My experience is limited, but I'm trying to learn as fast as I can here...01:27
nozorrolivingdaylight: partitioning shluld be enough to wipe it01:27
viatorlivingdaylight try dban01:27
viatorthen01:27
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nozorro*should01:27
viatorheh01:27
Crippy-Boydban rules :D01:27
rapiscansethk (I only have a little time left tonight, I have other work to do, that's why I say I can't do it tonight)01:27
livingdaylightnozorro: no it itsn't because when i reboot, the other os still boots up01:28
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sethkrapiscan, ok, we'll talk another time then.01:28
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livingdaylightviator: dban? how?01:28
Crippy-Boylivingdaylight: download the boot disk http://dban.sf.net (i think)01:28
viatordban is a live cd for widing drives partions01:28
rapiscansethk, oh you were going to have to walk me through it? I take it that means there's not documentation online. Is there anyway you can give me a general idea and I will read up on how to do it?01:28
viatorwiping01:28
kitchenozorro: cfdisk just does partition no formating01:29
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CurtisBI've got a package management prob...  whenever I get updates, the update mgr says, "cannot install all available updates, Some updates require the removal of further software" (etc.) then says it can't update totem, and I need to do a dist-upgrade.  Well, it says this even after a dist-upgrade, and if I try to remove totem it inists that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment, which seems like a bad id01:29
CurtisBea :)01:29
livingdaylightCrippy-Boy: sorry, there has to be a quicker way01:29
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kaosxmke2fs -j /dev/sdb01:29
nozorrokitche: yes :-)01:29
mcphailkaosx: that won't work01:29
sethkrapiscan, the source code _is_ the documentation.  You can reverse the order of the device scan.01:29
kaosxwouldnt that work?01:29
mcphailkaosx: /dev/sdb is not a partition01:30
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kaosxah01:30
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Kill_Xwell... anybody?01:30
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Crippy-Boysethk: Source code is documentation? I thought that was just an excuse for lazy dev's that don't wanna write docs ;-)01:30
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sethkkaosx, you can create a file system on the entire device.01:30
sethkkaosx, it isn't the usual way to do it, but you can01:30
kaosxahh01:30
kaosxstill learnig01:31
sethkkaosx, and the mkfs should work.01:31
HummariCan some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me01:31
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dibblegoCrippy-Boy, source code is a less ambiguous language than English and so the formality makes it more concise documentation01:31
reitzellanybody know a good ap to keep your passwords in?01:31
kaosxso whats the proper way?01:31
dibblegoreitzell, mypasswordsafe01:31
rapiscansethk:  I see, I take it this is all in C? It shouldn't be a problem then.  I'll investigate when I have some free time, and will definitely be back if I have any questions.01:31
reitzellthanks01:31
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sethkkaosx, the usual way is to use fdisk to create a partition table, and then use mkfs on the partition.   however...01:31
mcphailsethk: i don't think that mkfs will work01:31
Crippy-Boydibblego: Im sure glad i never wanted linux docs then ;-)01:31
sethkkaosx, what you did is not wrong and should have worked.01:31
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sethkmcphail, it will.  I've used it that way.01:31
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sethkrapiscan, k01:32
mcphailsethk: for ext3? I know you can do it for reiser01:32
kitchesethk: well mke2fs needs the filesystem for example mke2fs.ext301:32
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kaosxi figured that you wouldnt mke2fs on the mount point01:32
kaosxso i figured the device..01:32
HummariCan some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me01:32
kaosxbut i see what youre saying01:32
sethkmcphail, yes, I've done it with ext3.01:32
kaosxthats sort of how i did it in gentoo i think01:33
Hummariwould be nice to get some help01:33
sethkkaosx, if that failed (what you did), it will also fail on the partition01:33
AMGIrestarting pc after my resize now, hope it works01:33
kitcheHummari: I get the same thing it seems that the xorg.conf is set up wrong01:33
Jack_SparrowI know this problem is about 15 minutes old.. But I dropped out to windows and I did shrink a 400 gig NTFS partition to 350 gig using Partition Magic 8 and verified the drive, so it does work for the person that needed the info01:33
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sethkkaosx, what happens when you use that command?  the mkfs to /dev/hdb  (or sdb, or whatever it was)01:33
kaosxdont know, i was pulling it off the top of my head for that other guy01:34
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zoidberghey guys i'm having a porblem01:34
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kaosxsomething i thought i remembered when i set up gentoo01:34
Kill_Xso nobody has got some hints for not-anymore-mounting LVM Volumes? :(01:34
kaosxim gonna try arch or debian next on my test box01:34
nozorrokaosx: the other guy was livingdaylight i think, but his problem was a boot manager problem i thought01:35
sethkkaosx, ok.  it isn't wrong, it's just not the typical way it is done.01:35
zoidbergi'm trying to ssh into another machine....both on the same internet conneciton on a college campus....and i get an error says "port 22 connection refused"...any help?01:35
Kill_Xespecially root-filesystems?01:35
CurtisBI've got a package management prob...  whenever I get updates, the update mgr says, "cannot install all available updates, Some updates require the removal of further software" (etc.) then says it can't update totem, and I need to do a dist-upgrade.  Well, it says this even after a dist-upgrade, and if I try to remove totem it inists that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment, which seems, well, bad...01:35
CurtisB..... Is there a way to force removal of totem package without letting the package manager (I've been using apt-get) insist that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment?  (or is the g-d-e- package an orphan?!?)01:35
Hummarithere must be some1 here that can help me here01:35
zoidbergi'm trying to ssh into another machine....both on the same internet conneciton on a college campus....and i get an error says "port 22 connection refused"...any help?01:35
hikenbootquestion is there any way to do a comprehensive system test in linux ...I know on the windows side there is several boot cd's and software that "Comprehensively test" a system???01:35
zoidbergsorry it got chopped off before01:35
zoidbergdobt mean to spam01:35
kitchezoidberg: don't repeat but port 22 is blocked01:35
Crippy-Boyzoidberg: They probably blocked port 22 or ssh isn't running or not running on port 2201:35
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zoidbergkitche: is there anyway i can unblock it....or perhaps change the port on both computers?01:36
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kaosxcurtis: you can sudo apt-get remove totem i think01:36
hikenbootI think something on my system is failing but not sure wether its the processor memory or hard drives01:36
Crippy-Boyzoidberg: Change the port to 443, Should work.01:36
kitchezoidberg: you can reconfigure ssh01:36
sethkzoidberg, possibly the machine you are attempting to connect to isn't running the ssh server01:36
zoidbergno it is01:36
CurtisBkaosx - when I try that it wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment as well!01:36
sethkzoidberg, it isn't installed by default.01:36
zoidbergboth have dapper01:36
sethkzoidberg, you added it after the install?01:36
kaosxweird01:36
zoidbergare u sure sethk?01:36
HummariCan some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me01:36
sethkzoidberg, the client is installed by default, but not the server.01:36
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Crippy-Boyzoidberg: you have to install the package openssh-server01:37
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sethkzoidberg, yes01:37
yohanheya i just installed urxvt but the urxvt -bl doesnt work...any ideas?01:37
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zoidbergdoes that server need to be installed on both computers01:37
kitchesethk: you don't even know what the otehr computer is running01:37
yohan-bl means borderless01:37
Jack_SparrowHummari: Are you running the live cd trying toinstall?01:37
sethkzoidberg, no, only on the server.01:37
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sethkzoidberg, unless of course you want to be able to connect both ways.01:37
kitchezoidberg: what's the other computer running ubuntu or another distro?01:37
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zoidbergthe other computer is a friends computer that i got him to put dapper on01:37
zoidbergi have dapper01:37
zoidbergwe want to be able to share files01:38
sethkkitche, ubuntu on both ends01:38
zoidbergi've created an account on his computer01:38
jbabyI broke my Windows :(01:38
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zoidbergso what should i do now?01:38
nozorrojbaby: good for you :-)01:38
Jack_Sparrowjbaby: How01:38
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ZorlacMy ubuntu keeps locking up =[01:38
Crippy-Boyzoidberg: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on whatever your trying to connect to.01:38
zoidberginstall server on both computers?01:38
sethkzoidberg, install the ssh server, then connect.  most likely it will work.  the port _may_ be blocked, but you'll never know until you check.01:38
zoidbergsethk: how can i check01:38
sethkzoidberg, if you want to connect both ways, that is, he can connect to you, and you can connect to him, then yes, both machines.01:38
zoidbergsethk: should i install the server on both01:39
dibblegotelnet host 2201:39
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sethkzoidberg, on the server:  netstat -na | grep 2201:39
dibblegozoidberg, install the server on the server - the machine to connect to01:39
sethkzoidberg, I answered that four times.01:39
jbabyI installed Kubuntu and it erased everything including the OS restore hidden section that ships with Dell01:39
zoidbergokay guys01:39
zoidberggive me aminute01:39
Jack_Sparrowjbaby: Did you tell it to use the entire drive?01:39
dibblegojbaby, you are given the option - I erased that on my Dell fwiw01:39
cheekieWhat is the best way to deploy an installation from one machine to many in a computer lab?01:39
bluefusionxlNow let me clear things up.  If I give the Owner access to the files, that means the person who the account is running the file, correct?  Group would mean people in that group and public would be just anyone on the server?01:39
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ZorlacAnyone know why ubuntu would freeze?01:39
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dibblegoZorlac, it is not close enough to the equator?01:40
bluefusionxlprobably a memory problem zor, run ubuntu in memtest mode01:40
Zorlacdibblego, damn, i guess i should move =[01:40
jbabyYes, but I didnt know it would erase that hidden part01:40
Zorlacbluefusionxl, okay01:40
kitchebluefusionxl: it depends who the file owns to01:40
dibblegojbaby, it's not "hidden" - it's just a different partition01:40
CurtisBIf I do 'apt-get remove totem' it also wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment... is there aq way to force the removal of only the totem package?01:40
sethkZorlac, there is a problem.  several people tonight have been experiencing that after upgrading.01:40
jbabyI originally tried to install it on the same partition with windows but then windows wouldnt reboot01:40
Zorlacsethk, its just regular 6.06 though01:40
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bluefusionxlIs there a new version of ubuntu out?01:41
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dibblegojbaby, it can't go on the same partition as windows - it would have removed windows at that point01:41
sethkjbaby, if you used the entire disk, then the other stuff is gone.01:41
bluefusionxlkitchie,  what do you mean?01:41
sethkZorlac, did you install updates?01:41
ubuntu_newbiei have a problem that i doubt anyone has had yet01:41
Zorlacsethk, i think so01:41
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Arigatois it just my computer or does simultaneous sound not work on ubuntu?01:41
sethkZorlac, several people here this evening have reported similar things after updating.  not an upgrade, just taking changes.01:41
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varsendaggrArigato, that is a good question01:42
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sethkArigato, it works, but the sound server must be correctly configured.01:42
Zorlacahh, i guess i'll just wait01:42
jbabyRight, once I found I messed up windows, I went and installed kubuntu again but this time said use the whole hard drive but then it also erased the dell restore01:42
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liquidangleshoot01:42
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liquidanglelost the job today :(01:42
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CurtisBArigato - ESD enlightenment sound daemon should let you have multiple prog's access sound at once01:42
ubuntu_newbiecan i get some help?01:42
dibblegojbaby, because the Dell restore is kept on the hard drive01:42
sethkArigato, the sound server owns the sound device, and applications talk to the sound server, and that allows multiple sound apps.01:42
phinhi, i just upgraded to edgy from dapper and when i try to startx i keep getting a version mismatch error for my i810 driver, any suggestions?01:42
nozorro!ask01:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:42
jbabyI know that now LOL01:42
CurtisBubuntu_newbie - whats the prob?01:42
sethkArigato, if the sound server is not running, then once an app grabs the sound device, no other app can get it.01:42
Jack_Sparrowjbaby: The drivers are available, your XP code is still good if you borrow a CD.. YOu just dont have the extras that were included with your original system.... Office and a few toys01:42
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liquidangleanyone in southern cali who's company is hiring ? :)01:43
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chamohello01:43
kitchephin: yeah I got that error also it has to deal with mesalib01:43
ulrikfthttp://en.pastebin.ca/164776 <- can someone tell me wtf that is?01:43
phinkitche: any suggestions?01:43
sethkjbaby, if you told it to use the entire drive, why are you surprised that it used the entire drive?  What am I missing?01:43
nashifeliquidangle google is always hiring. :) is that southern cali enough for you?01:43
sethkulrikft, it's a URL01:43
Kill_XAnyone here with knowledge of LVM and mounting problems using LVM for a root filesystem?01:43
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kitchephin: what verison of mesalib does edgy use do you know I had to use mesalib 6.501:43
ulrikftsethk: ho ho ho ho01:43
Groggzorhi all, i need to talk to some1 here that know alot about Ubuntu, i am having a trouble installing ubuntu01:43
ulrikftsethk: you are TEH funney01:43
liquidanglenashife: their in central cali01:43
jbabyI thought Dell would have protected the OS more than that (for idiots like me)01:43
Groggzorgetting the same error message01:44
phinkitche: how do i check?01:44
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chamoulrikft: no idea..01:44
sethkulrikft, it's part of a hex dump.  where did you get it?01:44
liquidanglenashife: i'm closer to L.A01:44
ulrikftsethk: trying to burn the ubuntu cd01:44
sethkulrikft, in a log file?01:44
ulrikftsethk: in freebsd01:44
ulrikftsethk: with burncd01:44
nashifeliquidangle well, i'm in oregon, so it's all "southern cali" for me. :)01:44
nozorrojbaby they can't (i hope)01:44
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chamoulrikft: have you check'd their website or googled it ?01:44
dibblegojbaby, nothing to do with the OS - if they did, it would annoy people like me who want the disk that they paid for01:44
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pharcvdeis vim 7.0 in edgy?01:44
sethkulrikft, that's an ioctl error, which doesn't help you much.01:44
liquidanglenashife: hahaha, where do you work my friend ?01:44
ulrikfthmm, ok.01:44
eviltuxhi all01:44
liquidanglenashife: I'd like to move to the northwest01:45
Jack_Sparrowjbaby: What model of Dell laptop?01:45
nozorrojbaby: sorry for you :-(01:45
sethkulrikft, either a bug in the program or a problem in the burner firmware01:45
liquidangleI hate it here01:45
ulrikfti think I'll just go kill myself now, and try to find a friend with a cdburner tomorrow:P01:45
jazzrockeris the MBR only on the master HD?01:45
jbabydeimension 300001:45
jazzrockeror does each HD (even slaves) have an MBR?01:45
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nashifeliquidangle well, if you've got sys admin experience, the company I'm working for is prolly hiring again soon.01:45
mcphailjazzrocker: they all have a MBR01:45
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nashifeliquidangle and if you wanted to move up here. :)01:46
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sethkliquidangle, cali is one large parking lot.  I don't like the northwest, though, I like more civilized places.01:46
jazzrockermcphail, which MBR actually get's booted from then? only the master drive?01:46
ubuntu_newbiehas anyone gotten linux to print on a windows server?01:46
liquidanglenashife: ummm, do they re-locate ?01:46
mcphailjazzrocker: whatever one you set the BIOS to boot from01:46
nozorroliquidangle: Germany where i am is further northwest still :-)01:46
jbabyI have tried DLing windows from torrent and they none of them work so guess I am a kubuntu user LOL01:46
sethkjazzrocker, the BIOS reads the mbr from the primary master, yes01:46
liquidanglenashife: I ran my own entertainment company for a few years, I did pretty much everything :)01:46
nashifeliquidangle it's possible.  we almost hired someone from Utah, but he turned down the offer.01:46
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jazzrockermcphail, most bioses i've seen don't have such an option01:46
djohnny79Hi @ll01:46
bluefusionxlwhat command removes users?01:46
FuzzyLaptoppffff its still not working right01:47
djohnny79anybody can help me with my monitor?01:47
nozorrobluefusionxl: deluser01:47
bluefusionxlthank you.01:47
mcphailjazzrocker: i have never seen a bios which doesn't ;)01:47
liquidanglenashife: how much sys admin experience ? i've got an A.S from I.T.T in networking, havent worked in a corp setting yet though :(01:47
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Groggzorany here know about his error Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... "01:47
nozorrobluefusionxl: or use the graphical tool01:47
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jazzrockermcphail, i've never seen a bios that says "boot from master/boot from slave"01:47
djohnny79where can i set my res higher than 1024 * 768: Hardware: NVidia Geforce 2 MX/44001:47
jazzrockermcphail, ever01:47
Groggzorplease some1 help me01:47
maple1jbaby, you can ask dell to ship you your XP disc01:48
jbabyWhat I cant understand about Kubuntu though is how did it know how to connect to the internet without me installing anything01:48
AbortDdj system > preferences > screen resolution?01:48
jbabyI use an external DSL modem01:48
[DMC] what is the correct place to turn off a service like cups and keep it off?01:48
jazzrockerjbaby, what's not to understand. and why would Kubuntu confuse you more than Ubuntu (which will do the same thing)01:48
FuzzyLaptopOMG01:48
FuzzyLaptopITS WORKING01:48
bluefusionxlis there a way to chmod all files and directories in a root directory?01:48
AbortDdjohnny79:  system > preferences > screen resolution?01:48
djohnny79dont get it higher than 1024*768, thats just the prob @abortD01:48
phinkitche: i have 6.5.1 installed01:48
mcphailbluefusionxl: chmod -R01:48
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zoidbergsethk: okay so i installed the server on my computer but not on the other...can i still access the other computer for now01:49
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jbabyWell, with windows, I had to install the bellsouth cd01:49
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pharcvdebluefusionxl: do chmod -R XXX dir01:49
FuzzyLaptoponly now i think im still using the ati drivers instead of fglrx01:49
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Crippy-Boyzoidberg: no01:49
djohnny79MooooooooH01:49
AbortDgeforce 2?01:49
jazzrockerjbaby, no. you didn't have to install the bellsouth cd. <- they told you you had to01:49
djohnny79Yes...01:49
zoidbergbut i have an account on the other computer01:49
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jbabySo does that mean that windows is on my machine somewhere?01:49
AbortDwill it just not allow you or when you do it screen goes blank?01:49
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Crippy-Boyzoidberg: You need the ssh server running on the computer you want to connect to!01:49
jazzrockerdjohnny79, that's an xorg setting01:49
djohnny792nd PC ;-) Should become a server but as my WIN PC fucked up on a virus i just wanted to try learning Linux ;)01:49
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DJGummikuhlanguage01:50
pharcvdeforums are getting whored01:50
OldTymequestion on install. when it goes to install it says "uncorrectable error on fat16 ide a partition 1" then it stops: im installing on ide #2 partition 201:50
kingdongLet's keep it clean gentlemen!01:50
sethkzoidberg, you can only log into the machine that is running the server that you just installed.01:50
kaot!restricted01:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:50
zoidbergdamn....well i cant install the server on that machine right now01:50
bluefusionxlso if I wanted to chmod all files in /home with a sudo chmod -R 700 /home01:50
Crippy-Boyzoidberg: The server runs on the machine you want to connect to, And you connect with the client.01:50
ubuntu_newbiehas anyone ever been able to print to a windows server printer01:50
jazzrockerdjohnny79, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution01:50
bluefusionxlthen itll m,ake all files in there 700?01:50
sethkjbaby, no, if you said "use entire disk", there are superblocks written in various places, and windows is gone.01:50
djohnny79jazzrocker :Where can i change this? Just loaded the drivers and changed as the prog told me, but nothing REALLY changed...01:50
zoidbergbut it did say before when i was just trying to ssh that port 22 was restricted or something01:51
zoidbergcan i unrestrict that on my machine and his....i mean change the port or something01:51
Crippy-Boyzoidberg: because it was trying to connect to something that wasnt there01:51
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livingdaylightwhat is the command for making ext3?01:51
ubuntu_newbiejesus...this doesnt make any sense01:51
jbabyOk, then how did kubuntu know I had a dsl modem without me installing the software?01:51
sethkzoidberg, I don't believe it's a port issue.  you can change it, but it won't help this problem.01:51
jazzrockerdjohnny79, loaded what drivers. changed what as what program told you what. if nothing "really" changed, what did change01:51
djohnny79ok.. giot the nvidia logo on startup, but dont get res higher...01:51
kingdongmke2fs01:51
zoidbergokay01:51
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livingdaylightmaking ext3 for sdb101:51
zoidbergthanks a lot guys01:51
nozorrodjohnny79: read here:01:51
Jack_Sparrowubuntu_newbie:   Did you use this page to get that going  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter01:52
zoidbergi really appreciate all the help01:52
jazzrockerdjohnny79, installing the nvidia drivers doesn't change your resolution for you01:52
nozorro!fixres01:52
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:52
djohnny79sorry im n00b ...01:52
sethkzoidberg, if I understand correctly, you are still trying to connect _to_ a machine where the ssh server isn't running.01:52
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zoidbergi'll just get my friend to install the server later01:52
livingdaylightkingdong: mke2fs /dev/sdb1   ??01:52
jazzrockerdjohnny79, don't be sorry, just modify your behavior01:52
sethkzoidberg, good idea.  :)01:52
zoidbergno sethk its cool...the guys is just not at hi computer right now... i understand thanx a lot01:52
GroggzorI need some help installing upuntu, getting the same fucking error message all the time, i really need to get ubuntu up so i can do my homework01:52
djohnny79:-)01:52
nozorro!fixres > djohnny7901:52
ubuntu_newbiethe problem is that its not a xp machine01:52
DBO!language > Groggzor01:52
ubuntu_newbieits a windows serber 2003 :(01:52
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zoidbergokay guys one more thing01:52
ubuntu_newbieserver*01:52
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kingdonglivingdaylight, add a -j if you want ext301:53
ompaul!language01:53
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:53
DJGummikuhjazzrocker: don't be too hard on him he barely understands anything on linux yet01:53
livingdaylightkingdong: add that where? could you show me?01:53
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zoidbergso the only reason i have XP right now still on this machine is because of my Tv-Tuner card...its an ATI TV_Wonder Pro or something01:53
sethkGroggzor, ask a question01:53
chamohehe01:53
jazzrockerDJGummikuh, who barely what when why?01:53
zoidbergcan i get that to work in UBUNTU?01:53
nick_!kill01:53
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:53
jazzrockerDJGummikuh, i haven't been "hard" on anyone01:53
kingdonglivingdaylight, just to make sure you are ready to lose all the existing data on this partition correct?01:53
DJGummikuhjazzrocker: djohnny79 :)01:53
bluefusionxlsudo chmod -R 700 /home01:53
jazzrockerDJGummikuh, go read smart-questions.01:53
sethkzoidberg, I'm not sure whether that particular card is supported.  look at the video4linux web site.01:54
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bluefusionxlhey guys...  I typed "sudo chmod -R 700 /home01:54
bluefusionxloops01:54
livingdaylightkingdong: yes01:54
djohnny79mom just readin the help...01:54
bluefusionxlhey guys...  I typed "sudo chmod -R 700 /home" and my ftp wont let me on01:54
bluefusionxlanymore01:54
DJGummikuhI kinda knocked him into linux lately :) he couldn't tell init from x so far ;)01:54
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zoidbergsethk: its not a video card....its just tv-tuner card01:54
sethkzoidberg, I know01:54
gottreuDoes ubuntu have a 3270 emulator?01:54
sethkzoidberg, tv is video01:54
ubuntu_newbieJack_Sparrow...the computer is a server 2003 machine01:54
zoidberglol01:54
zoidbergok01:54
gottreuI _thought_ it did, but I might have been thinking about CentOS.01:54
zoidberglol01:54
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jbabyHow do I install my CDs like frontpage cause I always get error messages01:54
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kingdonglivingdaylight, then do sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdx      (where hdx is the drive/partition)01:54
jazzrockerDJGummikuh, because you encouraged him to use Linux doesn't entitle him to special treatment <- and I still maintain i haven't been at all "hard" on anyone01:55
Groggzori alwasy get "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... " when i am trying to install ubuntu01:55
thinkleHi all -- I'm interested in trying out the new GNOME release and wanted to know if an edgy upgrade would be a bad idea (I'm pretty savvy but wanted to make sure there weren't major known issues atm)01:55
Jack_Sparrowubuntu_newbie: I saw a page for setting up a nteware printer but the Win 2003 server dosnet conform to that does it?01:55
DJGummikuhjazzrocker: -.- you really didn't get the irony in it did you?01:55
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jazzrockerDJGummikuh, there wasn't any irony01:55
livingdaylightkingdong: thx, so i got sata so it'd be mke2fffs -j /dev/sdb101:56
kingdongthinkle: no major issues i'm aware of... but you never know01:56
DJGummikuhjazzrocker: in MY post you nut01:56
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jazzrockerDJGummikuh, there wasn't any irony in your post01:56
bluefusionxlguys I have a question.  I chmodded all my files in /home to 700, and my ftp wouldnt let me on anymore.  I chmodded them to 777 and they did.  Why is that?01:56
livingdaylightIs it true if i have two hardrives then i only need one swap?01:56
thinklekingdong  - right, but I'll go ahead and git it a whirl. At best I'll provide some useful bug reports, right :)01:56
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jbabyHow do you install setup.exe files in kubuntu? I cant install Frontpage01:56
FuzzyLaptopbtw how do you just restart yr shell?01:56
DJGummikuhbluefusionxl: because with ftp you are not your user but an ftp user01:56
thinkles/at best/at worst/01:56
bluefusionxlWine01:56
kingdongthinkle, yes ;)01:56
ubuntu_newbieJack_Sparrow i didnt see that page01:56
Seveasjbaby, you can't01:56
kingdonglivingdaylight, sounds good01:56
DJGummikuhchange the permissions to 755 and you should be fine01:56
gottreujbaby: you don't01:56
nozorro!wine01:56
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:56
cheatersrealmwhat's the package for kde under ubuntu?01:56
kingdongcheatersrealm, kubuntu-desktop01:56
Seveascheatersrealm, kubuntu-desktop01:57
nick_how do you kill an app through GUI under kubuntu01:57
cheatersrealmyikes01:57
Seveasnick_, xkill01:57
cheatersrealmthanks01:57
jbabyCan you run frontpage through Wine?01:57
nick_seveas: thanks01:57
Seveasjbaby, no01:57
phinkitche: ping01:57
kingdongjbaby, try vmware01:57
[DMC] what is the correct config to turn off a service like cups and keep it off?01:57
jazzrockerjbaby, oh god, please don't run frontpage!01:57
Jack_Sparrowubuntu_newbie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetwarePrintingFromUbuntu01:57
bluefusionxlI dont want my users to see my files though01:57
jbabyVMware?01:57
Seveasjbaby, ditch frontpage and use nvu or bluefish01:57
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livingdaylightkingdong: did you saygood for 1 swap is ok for two hardrives?01:57
jazzrockerjbaby, if you want to run native windows apps your best bet is vmware-server. google.01:57
nozorrojbaby VMware, sure. Wine, not sure.01:57
kingdongjbaby, vmware-server is free, allows you to run a windows environment within ubuntu01:58
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Kill_Xgot a startup problem, pre-init saying "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"01:58
kingdongit's not super fast but it works great.01:58
jbabyIve tried, NVU, it has no features01:58
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: me personally i use 1 swap for each harddrive01:58
GroggzorI am trying to install Ubuntu but i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... " any know what i need to do ?????01:58
Kill_Xanyone able to help?01:58
cheatersrealmGroggzor: probably edit your xorg.conf file01:58
kingdonglivingdaylight, sorry please say again?01:58
cheatersrealmGroggzor: are you familiar with linux?01:58
sethkKill_X, paste your kernel command line01:58
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jazzrockerjbaby, don't use WYSIWYG web editors. they are bad for your health and bad for my sanity. and bad for the health and sanity of anyone who has to look at your code. and bad for your SEO. and bad in general.01:59
jbabyIm pretty much too lazy for NVU01:59
OldTymeon install i set my partitions. one for / & one for swap....after it formats & goes to install i get a "Error on IDE1" & it stops...... im installing on IDE #2. why is it even messing w/ 1. thkx01:59
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livingdaylightkingdong: i got two sata drives. Is one swap enough for the two hd's?01:59
nick_seveas: how do you view the processes through GUI...control + Alt + ?01:59
sethknick_, tab01:59
kingdonglivingdaylight, yes you only need one swap partition01:59
Kill_Xsethk, what exactly do you mean? Debug messages right before that?01:59
jbabyDreamweaver is cool though01:59
jazzrockerjbaby, go to #css and learn the ways of the true web master01:59
sethknick_, just alt01:59
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Groggzornope i am not familiar with linux, never used it before01:59
Crippy-Boyjbaby: If you NEED to run frontpage you'll have to use wine, but you really shouldnt touch frontpage, The code it genrates is nasty.01:59
jazzrockerjbaby, using Dreamweaver to code a site is like trying to perform surgery with oven mitts on01:59
sethkKill_X, no, the kernel command line, usually from /boot/grub/menu.lst02:00
thinklelivingdaylight, System->Administration->System Monitor02:00
jazzrockerCrippy-Boy, no, he can use vmware-server. and in fact that's probably way better than wine.02:00
livingdaylightkingdong: thx02:00
kingdongnp livingdaylight02:00
jbabyWow, yall dont like WYSISYG do ya lol02:00
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sethkjbaby, what you see is _all_ you get02:00
Crippy-Boyjazzrocker: Yeah, running it inside a VM which will slow it down, how exactly is that 'way better'02:00
brian98_LaptopHi,, just wondering any recommendations about migrating a ubuntu install to a new drive?02:00
jazzrockerjbaby, it's not a dislike, its a proven fact that they generate crappy code.02:00
designDreami am currently running debian.. any docs into moving into ubuntu?02:00
kingdongjbaby use it if you want but we will try to discourage you ;)02:01
jazzrockerCrippy-Boy, hardly. way better = actually works and runs natively. e.g. IE in wine does *not* render the same as the native version02:01
nick_sethk: just alt isn't working...im using kubuntu02:01
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sethkjazzrocker, hey, I can generate crappy code with any editor.02:01
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jbabyMy site didnt work no more in Linux, i couldnt view everything that I could see before in windows02:01
ubuntu_newbieJack_Sparrow negative02:01
Kill_Xsethk, actually I don't have access to my menu.lst right now. But, since I have not touched that file for weeks and the error just occured 5 hours ago, I don't think, that's the issue...02:01
kingdongi agree with jazzrocker.02:01
jazzrockersethk, yes you can, but you cannot generate clean code with dreamweaver or any other wysiwyg app02:01
Crippy-Boyjazzrocker: So running in a VM is 'native' now?02:01
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sethknick_, so am I. perhaps I misunderstood the question.02:01
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sethkjazzrocker, I don't use them, but I'm skeptical about a statement like that.02:02
jbabyAnd that was through linuxs browser vs windows browser02:02
designDreamcan a debian install be converted to ubuntu?02:02
sethkjazzrocker, if only because the vast majority of programmers use wysiwyg, so there isn't a valid control group that doesn't.02:02
nick_sethk: theres a keyboard command that you press to view the processors table to kill applications02:02
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OldTymeon install i set my partitions. one for / & one for swap....after it formats & goes to install i get a "Error on IDE1" & it stops...... im installing on IDE #2. why is it even messing w/ 1. thkx02:02
jazzrockersethk, uhhhh, i'm skeptical of THAT statement02:02
Groggzorcan some PLEASE message me than know how to fix this, i am always getting the same error when i am trying to install Ubuntu "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... "02:02
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sethknick_, let me check something.02:02
jazzrockersethk, where the *hell* do you get your data saying that "most programmers use wysiwyg" <- that's completely bogus02:02
sethkjazzrocker, oh yah???   :)02:02
nick_sethk: ok thanlks02:02
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asdxedgy will be released in october?02:03
sethkjazzrocker, oh, not, absolutely not.  there are statistics gathered about that.02:03
jesus_hello02:03
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jesus_i need help02:03
jazzrockersethk, show me02:03
Crippy-Boywysiwyg has its uses, As does coding 'properly'02:03
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nozorroasdx: yep02:03
jesus_i recently installed my ubuntu distro02:03
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jesus_but i have no sound :S02:03
Kill_Xsethk, my rootfs is on an LVM volume, but somehow the system refuses to mount that volume saying, that the respective device does not exist. But actually the device exists...02:03
enriquehello02:03
gnomefreakasdx: late oct and please join #ubuntu+1 for edgy topics02:03
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asdxok02:03
jesus_hola enrique02:03
enriqueTHIS IS MY VERY FIRST TIME HERE02:03
jazzrockeromg02:03
jbabyDo all applications that you have running when you reboot normally come back on when it boots back up?02:03
ubuntu_newbiejesus_ install easyubuntu @ www.easyubuntu.com02:03
enriqueand all of you know how to use linux?02:04
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jazzrockerenrique, far from all.02:04
gnomefreakenrique_: lose the caps please02:04
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asdxgnomefreak: but i guess ubuntu would release every in 6 months02:04
asdx?02:04
sethkKill_X, I didn't say the line is wrong.  I said I need to see the line to know how to troubleshoot the problem.02:04
gnomefreakasdx: yes give or take02:04
enriquegot it02:04
jesus_what is easyubuntu?02:04
ubuntu_newbieJack__Sparrow that netware thing didnt work02:04
Kill_Xsethk, well, do you have some minutes?02:04
gnomefreak!easyubuntu02:04
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:04
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jesus_hmm thanks02:05
ubuntu_newbiejesus_ also automatix02:05
enriquecan anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?02:05
ubuntu_newbie!automatix02:05
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.02:05
enriqueplease02:05
Kill_Xgotta boot the 6.10.1 livecd and get my wlan working02:05
jesus_it will make my box sound again?02:05
sethknick_, let me check something.02:05
jesus_cause i was using kanotix02:05
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jazzrockersethk, you still haven't shown me these magical "gathered statistics" or who gathered them or under what thesis/bias02:05
jesus_i decided to test ubuntu02:05
sethknick_, do you mean alt-F5?02:05
ivaldiHello. I am having a problem with changing my sound volume with the volume keys on my keyboard. They do bring up the volume meter, but changes the wrong alsa channel. Does anyone know how to resolve this?02:05
sethkjazzrocker, indeed, I can't do two things at once.  but google for it, you'll find it, or wait until I find it.02:05
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nick_sethk: nope02:05
jbabyI installed Automatix, got a lot of errors  but everything it installed seems to work02:06
enriquecan anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?02:06
nick_sethk: i think its control + alt +02:06
jazzrockersethk, what exactly should i google for. "wysiwyg are teh leet" ?02:06
liquidangleanyone else in southern california who's company is hiring for entry level ?02:06
sethknick_, there is no key to install that.02:06
jesus_i have ubuntu hoary hedgehog 50.402:06
ubuntu_newbiesethk can you help me to print to my windows print server02:06
jesus_5.0402:06
gnomefreakliquidangle: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic02:06
nick_sethk: ok because i made it come up beofre when i was fooling around02:06
sethkjazzrocker, if you are serious and not just trolling, you would look for user estimates of the various development tools02:06
nick_sethk: thanks anyway02:06
superjew9020can someon help me im tryin to use rtorrent but every time  i try and start it it says it could not load "~/.rtorrent.rc"02:06
Kill_Xsethk: It'll take about 5 minutes, I'll be back as fast as possible...02:06
Groggzorany here that can help me please02:06
liquidanglegnomefreak: sure thing02:06
jbabyI am surprised NVU is considerred WYSIWYG, Its a pain in the butt02:07
jazzrockersethk, uhhhh, that's an extremely loaded and validly flawed syllogism there buddy02:07
enriquecan anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?02:07
superjew9020can anyone help meeeeeee02:07
ACUHow to I urar an rar file (what Linux application can I use) ?02:07
sethkjazzrocker, if you are interested, the figures are there.  If you don't care enough to look it up, well, it doesn't make any difference to me.02:07
Crippy-BoyACU@ unrar02:07
jazzrockersethk, *you* are the one making this claim that there are "gathered statistics" and that you've seen said statistics02:08
jesus_hmmm02:08
enriquecan anybody help me?02:08
ubuntu_newbiesethk some help please?02:08
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jesus_the sound is now working02:08
jesus_:S02:08
enriquewith networking?02:08
jesus_estrange :S02:08
jazzrockersethk, burden of proof is yours. dig?02:08
kingdongit is the burden of the person making the claim to support the claim02:08
Groggzoris there some other irc channel that is better to get some help for Ubuntu?02:08
sethkjazzrocker, indeed.  I have absolutely no obligation to justify anything whatsoever to you.02:08
nozorroenrique, it depends on what you want to do02:08
sethkubuntu_newbie, ask a question and we'll try.02:08
jazzrockersethk, of course not, unless you want people to take you seriously.02:09
superjew9020helllloooooo02:09
enriquei want to connect to pcs with ubuntu to see the files from both hard drives02:09
ubuntu_newbiesethk can you please help me to print to my windows print server?02:09
gnomefreakjazzrocker: and seth please drop it02:09
sethkjazzrocker, this isn't even a #ubuntu question, so take it off line please02:09
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sethkubuntu_newbie, you use samba to do that, so question one is, is samba installed?02:09
mark_Problem: firefox mplayerplug-in can't play mp3 files, and anyway i'd prefer they open in xmms instead of fullscreen in firefox. any ideas?02:09
ubuntu_newbiesethk its a windows server 2003 server on AD02:09
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ubuntu_newbiesethk samba is installed02:09
sethkubuntu_newbie, AD?02:09
nozorroenrique: that is to say, both should see the other's user's files?02:09
ubuntu_newbiesethk Active Directory02:09
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enriqueyep02:10
enriqueplease help02:10
ubuntu_newbiesethk for authentication02:10
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enriquei need to synchronize my desktop and laptops02:10
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sethkubuntu_newbie, ok.  I don't think active directory is going to prevent you from accessing a shared printer, but I'm not a windows expert by any means.02:10
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superjew9020can someon help me im tryin to use rtorrent but every time  i try and start it it says it could not load "~/.rtorrent.rc"02:10
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nozorroenrique: to sync, that's not that easy02:10
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enriquei mean at least i want to be able to transfer files back and forth with a network cable than with a flash drive or my ipod02:11
ubuntu_newbiesethk well active directory aside.. i cannot print02:11
sethkubuntu_newbie, the cups admin gui can be used to browse for windows printers.02:11
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enriquei just wanna be able to come home and send the stuff from my laptop to my desktop everynight02:11
ubuntu_newbiesethk but the windows printer isnt configured for cups02:11
nozorroenrique: youcan right click on folder and select 'share' and follow from there02:11
sethkubuntu_newbie, that doesn't matter.02:11
enriqueyeah but how do you set up stuff?02:12
ubuntu_newbiesethk so how do i use the cups admin gui02:12
sethkubuntu_newbie, that would matter if you want to access a printer connected to a linux box, from windows02:12
enriquelike which program to use02:12
superjew9020can u guys help me or not02:12
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enriqueor do i need samba?02:12
sethkubuntu_newbie, you run a browser as root and use the url   http://localhost:63102:12
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sethksuperjew9020, sorry, I don't know the answer02:13
nozorroenrique: samba maybe.02:13
superjew9020ok02:13
sethkenrique, you can use scp and sftp.  cygwin has the windows side programs.02:13
enriquei thought there be an easier way02:13
superjew9020can anyone else help me02:13
sethkenrique, sftp is quite easy02:13
enriqueyeah but i don't use cygwin02:13
sethkenrique, install it.02:14
enriquebut i have gftp02:14
enriquewhich is quite easy02:14
Crippy-Boysuperjew9020: i dont know nothing about rtorrent but it sounds like its looking for a script that isnt there.02:14
sethkenrique, you can run an ftp server on the linux side easily enough02:14
nozorroenrique, you sadi ubuntu on both machines02:14
ubuntu_newbiesethk could you advise me what to do at the page?02:14
enriquei just want like to connect 2 pcs with an ethernet cable and be able to see the hard drives from both pcs02:14
nozorroyou sadi*02:14
enriqueyeah02:14
enriqueubuntu on laptop and xubuntu on desktop02:14
gnomefreaksuperjew9020: paste the full message it gives you to pastebin please02:14
nozorroenrique: it's doesn't wokr just like this02:15
sethkubuntu_newbie, you add a printer.  the interesting part will be where you specify the "port" for the printer.02:15
superjew9020its only three lines02:15
Crippy-Boysuperjew9020: and is it actually in your home directory?02:15
jbabyIs VMWare a big time resource hog??02:15
gnomefreaksuperjew9020: are you sure its ~/.rtorrent.rc?02:15
superjew9020yeah02:15
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superjew9020definetly02:16
gnomefreakjbaby: how about taking random comments to #ubuntu-offtopic02:16
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sethkjbaby, yes02:16
zenwifisup02:16
Crippy-Boygnomefreak: It wasnt a comment, it was a question...02:16
enriquewhat about that program "UNISION" or something02:16
gnomefreaksuperjew9020: open your home dir in nautilus and click ctrl +h02:16
enriquehas anybody tried it?02:16
gnomefreakoh sorry02:16
eugmanAnyone who knows the command line well, some help with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop would be appreciated.02:16
nozorroenrique: if you have ubuntu on both machines, install openssh-on the desktop system. you can then connect from the laptop using the file manager02:17
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jbabySomeone in the room told me to try VMware and I was asking was it a resource hog02:17
superjew9020ok now wat02:17
nozorroenrique: i wanted to say install openssh-server02:17
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Crippy-Boyjbaby: Yes it is.02:17
gnomefreakany VMs are resource hogs02:17
gnomefreaksuperjew9020: do you see the file it asks for?02:18
Crippy-Boyjbaby: If your trying to run it just for frontpage, Look for an alternative to frontpage.02:18
enriquethe thing i would like to do is to be able to see the pc drives on the /media/ folder in the laptop and the laptop drives in the /media/ folder in the pc02:18
superjew9020uhh h/o02:18
ubuntu_newbiesethk im getting a no matches found error02:18
enriquesounds weird?02:18
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superjew9020its not there02:18
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Red-Soxcan someone please highlight me02:19
Kill_Xsethk: re02:19
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gnomefreakeugman: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ping me there02:19
gnomefreakRed-Sox: what?02:19
Kill_Xsethk: wait a secont, have to mount my rootfs02:19
Red-Soxah crap02:19
Red-Soxhold on02:19
Red-Soxokay, try again02:19
Kill_X*second02:19
jbabyOk, but theres other progz that I have for windows like yahoo messenger and games, but I only have 256mb mem. Is it even worth trying VM?02:19
Kill_X^^02:19
ubuntu_newbiesethk the printer is shared so i dont know whats wrong02:19
superjew9020gnomefreak iits not there02:20
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gnomefreaksuperjew9020: than i suggest you make one or have rtorrent generate one if you can02:20
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Crippy-Boyjbaby: there are plenty of alternatives for yahoo etc. And no with 256 ram dont run VMWare02:20
kitchejbaby: well you can use gaim for yahoo messenger and games your kinda stuck with windows02:20
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jbabyok02:21
LOLhow can I create a Sticky Notes (the gnome applet) shortcut on my desktop?02:21
nozorroenrique: use the ssh server on both sides then.02:21
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superjew9020uhh how?02:21
jbabyLinux games kinda remind me of an atari 2600 lol02:21
Red-SoxCan someone say my name again please?02:21
ubuntu_newbielol02:21
gnomefreakRed-Sox:02:21
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nozorroenrique: read here for an intro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto02:21
Kill_Xsethk: so...02:21
jbabyLOL: Drag and drop02:21
ubuntu_newbiesethk: hello?02:21
gnomefreakRed-Sox: i think you need to use #ubuntu-offtopic for that02:21
sethkKill_X, sorry, I'm on a call, give me a moment.02:21
LOLjbaby from where?02:21
enriquei know how ssh works, i would be able to log in to another computer and work on it but i want to be able to send the files from one to the other and vice versa fast like with cut and paste02:21
Kill_Xsethk: what line do you need?02:21
Red-Soxgnomefreak: no one answered :(02:22
enriquei will, thanks nozorro02:22
Kill_Xsethk: ah, k02:22
sethkubuntu_newbie, sorry, I'm tied up for a few more minutes.02:22
jbabyActually, I have Sticky note in my taskbar02:22
zebedeeGood evening all... a couple of questions... Does anyone know of an easy to use c compiler (as complete novice) to compile driver for my RTL8180L wireless Lan card? and... I need advice pls on copying my hardrive (size 4gb) contents to new 10gb hardrive, soon to be ex win98! (connect to machine as slave and then,,,?). Many thx in advance, Zebedee02:22
Crippy-BoyHahaha this is awesome, Watching family guy in ascii.02:22
nozorroenrique: it will do exactly that, using the nautilus file manager.02:22
superjew9020Gnomefreak how do i do that??02:22
kitcheenrique: you can use scp which is ssh copy02:22
LOLjbaby, yup, i dont notice the small icon and forget to open them though so i want it to be on my desktop02:22
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jbabyNope not on my desktop02:22
Kill_Xsethk: I'll be 5mins afk meanwhile ;)02:22
enriquekewl kewl02:22
bluefusionxlhey.. my webmin says apache isnt started.  But it is, what do you suppose is wrong?02:22
enriquei gotta go, but thanks, and i'll read that how to02:23
enriquethanks nozorro02:23
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ubuntu_newbieall thats stopping me from a complete switch to ubuntu is this stupid printer issue02:23
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sethkubuntu_newbie, it's shared with no restrictions at all?02:23
nozorroenrique: if you have the ssh server on both sides, you can use drag and drop in file manager. just make sure that you have the same user accounts on both sides, and read how to do passwordless authentication02:23
gnomefreaksuperjew9020: you can make one with mkdir ~/.rtorrent.rc but it will be empty you will need the default file maybe get it from the rtorrent site i dont know how rtorrent works but maybe using sudo apt-get install --reinstall rtorrent might work02:23
enriquepasswordless authentication?????? you got me there dude, i have never heard of that02:24
enriqueits gonna ask me for my password02:24
ubuntu_newbiesethk: i believe so but i'll check again02:24
nozorroenrique: configure ssh not to use passwords, for ease of use. it's possible02:25
kingdongyou can authenticate ssh with keys02:25
Crippy-Boyenrique: Use public key authentication.02:25
enriqueok, i'll check the man pages02:25
jbabyIs there a place I can get Nortin I.S. for kubuntu?02:25
enriquethey are kicking me out02:25
enriquethanks again nozorro02:25
enriquegotta go02:25
Crippy-Boyjbaby: no but you dont need that.02:25
ubuntu_newbiesethk: the rights say that anyone has the right to print02:25
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nozorroenrique: google for that: passwordless authentication ssh. there's different ways to achieve that02:26
Crippy-Boyjbaby: But if you feel you need to have an av/firewall theres a few alternatives.02:26
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jbabyI wouldnt wanna open Email att without AV02:26
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Crippy-Boyjbaby: There arent many virii for linux, but if you need an av to feel save, Grab clamAV or i think avast do a linux version02:26
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kingdonggenerally speaking you shouldn't open e-mail attachments with executables02:27
kingdongunless the binary is signed by someone you trust02:27
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kingdongwhether you have AV or not.02:27
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jbabyWell, I have a computer illiterate girlfriend and kids who just get mouseclick happy02:27
ubuntu_newbiesethk: anyone can print02:27
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corevettewould anyone know why my netgear wg311t wouldn't work with linux?02:28
PathagenX!repos02:28
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:28
sethkubuntu_newbie, is it possible for you to browse for printers using a windows box that does not authenticate to the domain server?02:28
Kill_Xsethk: I'm back... mind a pm?02:28
sethkKill_X, no, I don't mind.02:28
PathagenX!repositories02:28
linux1latest updates from ubuntu ok to install, no known problems?02:28
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jbabyOh yeah, How do I install my digicam?02:29
sethkubuntu_newbie, if a windows box that is unknown to the domain server sees the printer, then we'll know it's unrelated to authentication02:29
sethkubuntu_newbie, we have to narrow it down in some manner.02:29
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ubuntu_newbiesethk: well to access the server a computer must provide authentication02:29
klugwhat is a recomended gnome program to burn iso files >?02:29
Crippy-BoyGnomeBaker02:30
linux1latest updates from ubuntu ok to install? any known problems?02:30
sethkubuntu_newbie, right, but is the server moderating access to the printer?02:30
ladydoor!repeat02:30
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:30
sethkubuntu_newbie, the printer isn't connected to the domain server?  or is it?02:30
Crippy-Boyor install kdelibs and k3b(which i prefer) but theyre both just front ends for command line utils02:30
jbabyklug: I use KBR to install ISO files02:31
CorpseFeederSetting up RT61 wireless card for WPA-PSK. I'm editing file rt61sta.dat - what do I put in "AuthMode="? it currently says "OPEN"02:31
klugthanx jbaby02:31
ubuntu_newbiesethk: the printer is connected to the domain server02:31
ladydoorlinux1: and that depends. do you mean dist-upgrading to edgy or just upgrading to the latest dapper packages?02:31
jbabyKBR02:31
jbabyKB3 not KBR02:31
linux1latest dapper02:31
klugahh02:31
sethkubuntu_newbie, ah, then samba has to log into the server also.02:31
ladydoorlinux1: i didn't have any problems...02:31
klugfor gnome ehh ?02:31
linux1lady , ok thank you02:31
jbabyI dont know that gnome02:31
ubuntu_newbiesethk: oookk...so how do i do that?02:31
jbabyI dont know what gnome is02:31
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Crippy-Boyklug: GnomeBaker for gnome, I just prefer k3b02:32
ubuntu_newbielol02:32
sethkubuntu_newbie, there is a howto around about accessing windows shares.  it talks about authentication.  Of course you are doing printing, not shares, but the authentication is the same for both02:32
gnomefreakk3b?02:32
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jbabyDoes Kubuntu have Gnome and KBE both?02:32
sethkubuntu_newbie, check out smbpasswd02:32
ubuntu_newbiesethk: where is this howto?02:33
linux1jbaby: no kubuntu =kde ubuntu=gnome02:33
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asiatic?firefox02:33
gnomefreakjbaby: you can install gnome and kde on the same system02:33
sethkubuntu_newbie, anyone know the URL for the howto about accessing windows network resources from linux?02:33
jbabyWhats the difference between the two?02:33
Crippy-Boyjbaby: Alot, Try them and see for yourself.02:33
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sethkubuntu_newbie, someone will come up with it; in the meantime do a search on the ubuntu site.02:34
PathagenXI hate gnome-xchat02:34
asiatic!firefox02:34
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins02:34
ubuntu_newbiesethk: thanx for all ur help sethk02:34
CorpseFeederWhat do I put for AuthMode= and EncryptType= if I am seting up for WPA-PSK? I know it is AuthMode=SHARED and EncryptType=WEP for WEP, but I am not using WEP. What do I put in the file for WPA-PSK?02:34
gnomefreakPathagenX: its xchat-gnome and mmost people didnt like it so it was removed from dapper install02:34
PathagenXI ripped out firefox and installed epiphany02:34
jbabyWhich one does windows have? Gnome or KDE?02:34
Crippy-Boyjbaby: neither02:34
ladydoorjbaby: neither02:35
PathagenXUhm? o.o Windows has explorer02:35
kingdongyou can get gtk+ for windows to ease porting02:35
jbabyKDE is the desktop?02:35
nozorroPathagenX: epiphany should come by default with ubuntu02:35
gnomefreakjbaby: yes02:35
asiatic!terminal02:35
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:35
PathagenXWindows is laike Linux with KDE installed but faster02:35
gnomefreakasiatic: what is it you are looking for?02:35
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kingdongKDE ->  =(02:35
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Crippy-BoyPathagenX: Windows is like linux with KDE installed? *head in hands*02:36
asiaticim new to this whole thing02:36
asiaticso i dont know02:36
PathagenXYea. Crap02:36
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jbabyKUBU does seem faster than windows02:36
srisis there a commando available in ubuntu that does the same thing as sockstat?02:36
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gnomefreakasiatic: do you need help with ubuntu?02:36
Crippy-BoyPathagenX: in your opinion...02:36
PathagenXYea..02:37
sethksris, netstat02:37
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kidkoAnybody know where I could get something like XML::Parser Perl Module? I need it to compile a program...02:37
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PathagenXeasy source sucks02:37
sethkkidko, CPAN02:37
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gnomefreakPathagenX: please take your opinions somewhere else02:38
klugwill ubuntu 6.06.1  come with ati drivers,  and a 3d accelorator (to play Unreal Tournament 2004)  ?02:38
CorpseFeederoik oik oik! flibble.02:38
Crippy-BoyPathagenX: is there anything you dont think 'sucks'02:38
klugor will i have to go through bunk like in Debian ?02:38
PathagenXStuff that works02:38
Crippy-BoyPathagenX: I mean, if you can do a better job, Please bless us all...02:38
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PathagenXStuff that works is cool.02:38
gnomefreakklug: no you need to install them from multiverse repo see /msg ubotu ati   for more info02:38
klugoh ok,  well at least it is froma repo02:39
CorpseFeederi want to edit my ra61sta.dat file but i can't because i don't know how02:39
sky123 hello..ive been trying to get openldap with tls working...but ran in to a roadblock...i copied over the public cert.pem into the client side....but i receive some errors.02:39
kluggnomefreak:  will i have to edit  apt.sources for multiverse ?02:39
gnomefreakklug: yes02:39
gnomefreak!repos > klug02:40
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klugthanx pal02:40
gnomefreakklug: your pm has instructions02:40
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james296how can I make Skype use the Gnome interface?02:40
sky123the errors are ldap_starttls_s: Connect error Sep  8 19:34:48 vm1 sshd(pam_unix)[3050] : check pass; user unknown Sep  8 19:34:48 vm1 sshd[3050] : pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP server can someone help with this?02:40
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PathagenXImma need a nice sources.list pasted to me, please, someone?02:40
PathagenX!repos > PathagenX02:41
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adilhello everyone :)02:41
Crippy-Boy'Lo :-)02:42
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adilthe highest level is root (i hope i am right:) ). what is the one right under it?02:42
adilthe highest a user can have02:42
CorpseFeederhow can I find out what how to fill in my rt61sta.dat wireless config file if there is no instructions?02:42
CorpseFeederi am stuck in limbo02:43
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nozorroadil: the root user is the most powerful wrt permissions if you mean that02:43
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spiderworm!webcam02:43
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:43
adilyes nozorro02:43
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adili added another user because i dont want to use root every time02:44
adilbut i want that user to have huge permissions02:44
adilhow can i make that please?02:44
Crippy-Boyadil: Add the user to the sudoers file.02:44
nozorroadil: in ubuntu there's no root by default02:44
ACUI have phpmyadmin installed (apache works) but I do not know how to make the phpmyadmin works any hint02:44
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dkim new to ubuntu dapper, everything is working fine, but sometimes my internet connection drops for a minute or so, why is this happening??02:44
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adilnozorro: i have root and i have a user, so that problem is solved :)02:45
kidkoAll right... Well, I got the XML::Parser downloaded. Now when I type in make (There is a makefile), it sends out a bunch of errors that, by my guess, complains about just about everything in the script. Does anybody have an idea of how I could fix this?02:45
adilCrippy-Boy: can you please give me a help doing that?02:45
CorpseFeederif I put "AuthMode=OIK!" and "EncryptMode=FLIBBLE" in my RA61STA.DAT file will that make my wireless card work in WPA-PSK?02:45
adili am trying to learn02:45
dkdoes anyone else experience this problem?02:45
henaroHello 8)02:46
dkinternet connection dropping every so often02:46
kingdonghello 8)02:46
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nozorroadil: you need to use the visudo editor02:46
Crippy-Boyadil: sudo nano /etc/sudoers02:46
nozorroif you want to follow Crippy-Boy's advice02:46
CorpseFeederwhere can I find how to edit my rt61sta.dat file correctly?02:46
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gnomefreakCrippy-Boy: visudo :)02:47
nozorroas i said02:47
sethkkidko, paste the error output on the paste site02:47
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brendonjtkia ora02:47
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adilok, the file opened02:47
henaroSooo02:48
ladydoorCrippy-Boy: actually, you need to use visudo. but if you read the manual, you'll see that you can use nano as the actual editor used instead of vi02:48
DeadPiggywhere can i go to get some noob help?02:48
adilso now i should add the username under root?02:48
henaroYeahh.....02:48
CorpseFeederand why do I have to type sudo at the start of almost every single terminal command I use?02:48
ladydoor!noob02:48
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.02:48
ladydooroh02:48
jbabyI notice there is programs for linux that let you watch tv on ur pc. Do you need to have any different hardware?02:48
ladydoorthat's not what i wanted it to say02:48
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henaroSoooo, I am having a problem with gcc...02:48
ladydoorDeadPiggy: what i wanted it to say was something like "ask your real question first"02:48
dkno one knows how to fix this internet connection issue?02:48
henaro8)02:48
ladydoor:-)02:48
gnomefreakladydoor: !ask02:48
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DeadPiggyah well i figured everyone wouldnt want to be bothered and maybe there was a channel that i cant find02:49
ladydoorgnomefreak: right right02:49
dkcan you guys hear me02:49
ghotliyes02:49
dkok02:49
ladydoorCorpseFeeder: you only need to type sudo if you need to be root02:49
quietno.. IRC doesn't have voice capbilities.02:49
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gnomefreakDeadPiggy: if you ask here we can point you to where it needs to go if not in here02:49
dklol02:49
jbabyThis room has voice?02:49
ladydoorCorpseFeeder: and if you really want you can set a root password and su02:49
jbabyoops nm02:49
Crippy-Boyladydoor: i've always been fine using nano :-)02:49
kingdongmy IRC is speaking out loud to me right now02:49
quietapparently?02:49
gnomefreakit can02:49
Lilandralupine_85: um...kernel panic (tho i didn't turn off acpi yet)02:49
kingdongwhat is wrong with your IRC?02:49
ladydoorCrippy-Boy: really? i thought you couldn't even edit it without visudo. weird02:49
gnomefreaknvm not voice as in sound02:49
jbabyNo mirc channels have voice I dont think02:50
gnomefreakladydoor: visudo is the edit iirc02:50
quiethehe... my irssi screams at me when you say my name.02:50
nozorroadil: man sudoers02:50
DeadPiggywell im completely new with ubuntu and installed it fine and just need to know how to get to the desktop02:50
jbabyYahoo does though02:50
DeadPiggyit takes me to the command line everytime02:50
gnomefreakjbaby: no irc has voice channels02:50
ladydoorgnomefreak: iirc? what does that mean?02:50
quietDeadPiggy: what did you install with?02:50
CorpseFeederwell I Seem to need to be root with almost everything in the online HowTos despite the instructions not mentioning this need.02:50
jbabyReally?02:50
quietladydoor: if i remember correctly02:50
Fuzz!paste02:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:50
gnomefreakladydoor: if i remember correctly02:50
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sethkladydoor, you can edit the file.  the comments in the file tell you to never do it.02:50
ladydoorquiet: aha02:50
ladydoorsethk: oh. lol02:51
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sethkladydoor, you can set your EDITOR environment variable to control which editor is used by visudo02:51
DeadPiggyi installed with the cd i mounted from the iso02:51
gnomefreakits never a good idea to use a command you dont know what it does02:51
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ladydoorsethk: right, that's what i was saying.02:51
jbabyfdisk is a good one lol02:51
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sethkladydoor, then, you were right.  :)02:51
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ladydoorsethk: lol02:51
quietgnomefreak: why not? that's the stuff viruses are made of..  :)02:51
sethkjbaby, fdisk is a good program.02:51
Lilandrawhat kernel does ubuntu 6.0.6 use?02:51
quietLilandra: 2.6.1502:52
jbabyyeah, it turns ur hard drive blank02:52
gnomefreakquiet: you have to know what it does to make a virus out of it :)02:52
CorpseFeederi wish i knew what this damned thing expects me to type into it's .dat file02:52
Lilandraquiet: is that the same across the board for amd64, ppc, i386?02:52
quietprobably.02:52
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Crippy-BoyWell, is there any specific reason why you have to use visudo? i've never had a problem using nano :-/02:52
gnomefreakCorpseFeeder: i have never seena  .dat file in or for ubuntu02:52
quietew.... nano1?02:52
gnomefreakCrippy-Boy: dont have to02:52
sethkCorpseFeeder, what program is associated with the .dat file?02:53
knixSo I'm having some issues with sound on my Ubuntu laptop. It's not swapping between speakers/headphones as it should. It uses whatever I have in at boot, eg. if I have headphones in when I boot, only the headphones work, and if I unplug them, speakers do not. Any ideas?02:53
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brendonjtok  on the website  it has the i386 kernal  how do i get the 686  kernal02:53
gnomefreakbrendonjt: synaptic02:53
quietbrendonjt: install it?   linux-image-2.6-68602:53
DeadPiggyquiet: I installed with a cd I mounted from the iso off the website02:53
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kingdongis the 686 kernel a lot faster?02:53
jbabyWhats the difference between 386 and 686?02:53
don_jrIs there a way I can see what process' are running on my machine?02:53
mike__i have an edgy question, what is there channel?02:53
kingdongi installed 386 by mistake02:54
gnomefreakmike__: #ubuntu+!02:54
gnomefreakavk02:54
quietDeadPiggy: which cd though?? the live cd? the alternative installation cd? the server cd?02:54
jbabyctrl-alt-delete02:54
gnomefreakmike__: #ubuntu+102:54
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sethkdon_jr, ps aux02:54
sethkdon_jr, ps -eaf02:54
mike__gnomefreak:  thaknk u02:54
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sethkdon_jr, lots of variations02:54
don_jrsethk thanx man, always my savior! :)02:54
gnomefreakyw02:54
CorpseFeederI have a file I am suposed to edit for a RT61 wireless card in /etc/Wireless/RT61STA named rt61sta.dat but I have no clue what it vlaues it expects for AuthType= and EncryptMode=02:54
DarthShrineHey everyone.02:54
brendonjt!68602:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
Bumbelbeebye02:55
jbaby!fdisk02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
DarthShrineI just tried to run something in wine and I got an error about libntdll.so not being found. How can I resolve this?02:55
DeadPiggyquiet: wow Im an idiot.  thanks02:55
mike__fdisk i hated that02:55
sky123Hi guys...i know this is a bit of a redundant question...but has anyone actually got the TLS support to work with openldap in UBUNTU?? for authentication??02:55
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jbaby!windows02:56
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm02:56
jake1ok...... i need help understanding directions02:56
jake1http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a02:56
jake1i'm a little confused02:56
nozorrojake1: what is it that you don't understand?02:57
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jake1i'm at the point "Run configure, build and install with:"02:58
jake1what do i run configure on02:58
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DeeahHow do I turn off Screen Reader/Magnifier?02:58
jake1i'm confused02:58
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Deeahor disable it02:58
CorpseFeeder I have a file I am supposed to edit for a RT61 wireless card in /etc/Wireless/RT61STA named rt61sta.dat but I have no clue what it values it expects for AuthType= and EncryptMode=02:58
DarthShrinejake1, In the directory, type ./configure02:58
sethkjake1, you extract the source code into a directory.  cd to that directory, then do:      ./configure02:58
jake1what directory02:58
jake1what source code02:58
Crippy-BoyWhy not install wine from the repo instead of building from source?02:58
ladydoorjake1: the directory you extract the source to02:58
jake1i'm lost02:58
DarthShrineThe one with the Wine stuff that youshould have from extracting...02:58
quietbuh... reboot requires... back in a bit.02:58
jake1crippy-boy that is for 32-bit02:59
quietrequired*02:59
nozorrojake1: in the build dir. the './configure' command starts the script named such in your working dir.02:59
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jake1ok... but then what is that second part02:59
sethkjake1, the web site whose URL you posted is for using the source code02:59
jake1after that02:59
mike__any ghood eye candy for non ati card users?02:59
sethkjake1, so those instructions don't have anything to do with what you are trying to do.02:59
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Fuzzuhm im having problems with my fglrx display drivers, could someone help pls?02:59
jake1LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32"02:59
DeeahIs anyone in here running edgy and they upgraded from dapper? Is X working and it's half stable/usable?02:59
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DarthShrinejake1, It tells you what commands to use there, too.03:00
ladydoorDeeah: #ubuntu+103:00
Crippy-Boyjake1: ahh, sorry didn't realise you wasn't using 32 bit.03:00
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gnomefreakDeeah: install xserver-xorg-core xorg adn xserver-xorg-video-all03:00
gnomefreakoops03:00
jake1sethk: what do you mean it doesn't have anything to do with what i want to do03:00
jake1i want to install Wine03:00
gnomefreakDeeah: yeah that but please join #ubuntu+103:00
jake1that's what that article is about03:00
sethkjake1, you are looking at instructions related to source code.  You don't have source code.03:00
brendonjtcan i run the linux 686 in a amd 2600+ athlon?03:00
DarthShrineI want to make Wine work ^_^03:00
jake1i have source code to Wine03:00
sethkjake1, no, that article is for installing from _source_03:00
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sethkjake1, then why did you say "what source code?"03:00
ShadowpillarDarthShrine: what's the prob now?03:01
Fuzzuhm im having problems with my fglrx display drivers, could someone help pls?03:01
sethkjake1 and "what directory?"03:01
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brendonjtfuzz:whats happening?03:01
jake1it appeared to be talking about the libc6-i386 and the libc6-dev-i386 library03:01
jake1not Wine03:01
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jake1if you read before it and the steps i took03:01
DarthShrineShadowpillar, Same as above; libntdll.so not found. In /usr/lib/wine there's a libntdll.def.03:01
DarthShrines/above/before/03:01
sethkjake1, I know what it is saying.03:01
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ShadowpillarDarthShrine: what are you trying to get work?03:02
jake1so i need to cd to the Wine source code directory03:02
jake1and compile it03:02
jake1?03:02
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jake1what are the commands below for then?03:02
Fuzzwell when i type fglrxinfo i get "the" error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:02
jake1is that how you do it?03:02
sethkjake1, why do you want to compile it?  why not just install the binary version?03:02
DarthShrineShadowpillar, Just Wine in general, nothing will run without that library.03:02
Fuzzand also it screws my screen up03:02
ShadowpillarDarthShrine: that's odd03:03
nozorrojake1: these are the compilation steps03:03
jake1because the bin version is for 32-bit and the source apparently is critical for running it on 64-bit according to #winehq03:03
ShadowpillarDarthShrine: what version of wine are you running?03:03
Fuzzi have to set my driver to "ati" in the xorg.conf to fix that03:03
brendonjtfuzz:how did you install it03:03
jake1if i use the bin it won't work they said03:03
jake1i need to follow those steps03:03
Shadowpillarjake1: whoa whoa03:03
Shadowpillarjake1: stop03:03
Fuzzlike this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinayDriverHowto/ATI03:03
brendonjtfuzz:have you got restricted modules installed03:03
DarthShrineShadowpillar, I'm not sure. I can't even run wine -v03:03
Shadowpillarjake1: I got wine running without recompiling it03:03
Fuzzi did the Install instructions for Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) section03:03
jake1on 64-bit?03:03
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brendonjtfuzz:sudo apt-get install  xorg-driver-fglrx03:04
Shadowpillarjake1: yep, I do it03:04
Fuzzthing is ... it worked before, only then it screwed up my xorg.conf so bad my gui wouldnt load03:04
Shadowpillarjake1: hold on one sec03:04
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nozorrojake1: just follow the steps, where's the problem?03:05
Fuzzxorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.03:05
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jake1i didn't understand what i was suppose to do nozorro03:05
Shadowpillarjake1: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/dapper/wine_0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb03:05
Shadowpillarjake1: download that03:05
Shadowpillaralso, DarthShrine.. http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/dapper/wine_0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb03:05
Fuzzso thats not it apperantly03:05
nozorrojake1: but what, specifically?03:05
Shadowpillarjake1: and install it dpkg -i --force-architecture wine_0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb03:06
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Shadowpillarnozorro: I got it under control03:06
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jake1nozorro: i did not understand that they meant to configure Wine03:06
brendonjtfuzz: hmm have you tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling it03:06
Shadowpillarjake1: and then apt-get install lib32asound2 and libasound203:06
nozorroShadowpillar: :-|03:06
Fuzzno03:06
Fuzzactually03:06
Fuzzhow do you uninstall them03:06
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jake1it seemed to be talking about the libraries mentioned in the steps prior03:07
Shadowpillarnozorro: I have wine running fine under 64 bit03:07
Shadowpillarjake1: hello?03:07
jake1yes03:07
bohemianCan anyone help with a sound problem? I updated to dapper and my sound has gone from * except Firefox03:07
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jake1Shadowpillar: should i apt-get install those libs before installing Wine03:07
jake1?03:07
Shadowpillaryeah, wouldnt hurt03:07
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Fuzzhow do you uninstall the fglrx drivers then?03:08
kingdongsudo apt-get uninstall fglrx03:09
Fuzzthnx03:09
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Shadowpillarjake1: and then do the dpkg command like I said03:09
Fuzznot quite03:09
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saga21hi people :)03:10
kingdongthe package name might be slightly different, i forget03:10
saga21:S03:10
Fuzzhow can u know?03:10
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DarthShrineShadowpillar, A quick reinstall of Wine showed that I have 0.9.9-003:11
jake1alright03:11
nozorrobohemian: enabling esd might help03:11
jake1it seems to be working03:11
saga21wine suck I try03:11
jake1ok.... done03:11
saga21but the counter strike no working03:11
jake1now i should test it03:11
jake1or is there some configuring i need to do first Shadowpillar03:11
jake1?03:11
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DarthShrinesaga21, Wine won't make CS run.03:12
saga21no :(03:12
Shadowpillarjake1: did you install it?03:12
Shadowpillarjake1: winecfg03:12
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jake1i that command03:12
jake1the dpkg -i03:12
jake1is that it03:12
jake1?03:12
Shadowpillarto set things up like pseudo drives03:12
Shadowpillarshould be03:12
livingdaylighthi, installing another os on my other hardrive has wiped the ubuntu menu.lst from grub which i need to manually add. Can you tell me how i mount sda from sdb so can acces this?03:12
Shadowpillarif any errors come up, tell me, because I'm going off memory here03:12
Shadowpillarthere might be other things needed03:13
DeeahWhere can I get an icon pack? For things that can't be included, ie the firefox ball(trademarked) and other crap like that.03:13
jake1is winecfg accessible from any directory03:13
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jake1or is there a dir i need to be in03:13
jake1?03:13
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Shadowpillarjake1: yeah, it's a command03:13
saga21hey but I can install CS03:13
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saga21in ubuntu-es03:13
Fuzzhow do i find out what package my fglrx drivers are03:14
ShadowpillarDarthShrine: check out winehq.org and look in the downloads sections for debian/ubuntu03:14
bnovci've tried installing ubuntu on a friend's laptop to dual boot with windows which is already on it. the ubuntu installer detects windows and says it will resize that partition but then when i click forward it says can't find space to install....i tried doing "largest continuous space" and clicking forward on that just stalls forever03:14
saga21say about install CS with wine03:14
kwilkersi would like to mount or "map" a network windows share at login, is this possible?03:14
ShadowpillarDarthShrine: in my experience, wine that comes with ubuntu is kinda shitty.03:14
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pianoboy3333Anyone here a quodlibet user?03:14
Crippy-Boybnovc: How much free space is there on the windows partition?03:14
saga21I am noob03:15
saga21:P03:15
bnovcCrippy-Boy: its a 60 gig drive, 40 or so is free03:15
Crippy-Boybnovc: hmm, You could always try resize it manually.03:15
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mYth[SeNtiX] hi03:15
ShadowpillarDarthShrine: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb03:15
saga21hi!!03:15
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bnovcCrippy-Boy: yea, i suppose i should do that...i figured ubuntu might be safe (not sure why i think so)03:15
nozorrokwilkers: after adding the place to Network Servers on desktop, it should reappear after each login03:15
Shadowpillarjake1: so, any luck?03:16
the_dudehmmm03:16
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the_dudeno aka yet03:16
bnovci didnt want to increase the risk of destroying her windows install when i changed the partitions03:16
mYth[SeNtiX] anyone can help me with regards how to stop a process from starting automatically at startup, please?03:16
kwilkersnozorro:  thank you, i'll poke at that!03:16
jake1sweet03:16
jake1seems to be working03:16
jake1some error messages during launch about not vinding suitable visual03:16
jake1but it seems to work anyways03:16
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eyequeuemYth[SeNtiX] , man update-rc.d03:16
nozorrokwilkers: first add it from Places > Connect to Server03:16
bnovcCrippy-Boy: i guess ill do that; any idea why it would error though?03:17
bnovci'm confident 30-40gigs is enough03:17
Shadowpillarjake1: cool cool, and you can manage to install other 386 only apps in a similar way, though not as simply.03:17
jake1now i'm curious..... how would i launch a program i install with it03:17
mYth[SeNtiX] ok here's my prob, i installed ubuntu-server and then got xfce4 as a temporary gui03:17
kingdongwhoever wanted firefox icon, check this out: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Firefox_&_Thunderbird_icon03:17
jake1does it create an icon somewhere to the program03:17
mYth[SeNtiX] now i want to stop it from lunching automatically at startup03:17
Shadowpillarjake1: like with zsnes, I had to download the deb for 32 bit SDL03:17
mYth[SeNtiX] eyequeue03:17
Shadowpillarjake1: wine program.exe03:17
Crippy-Boybnovc: Yeah, its definitly enough, not sure why the error, I normally use the alternative cd after partitioning myself.03:17
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jake1where do the programs install to?03:17
eyequeuemYth[SeNtiX] , man update-rc.d03:18
bnovcCrippy-Boy: i'm not familiar w/what the alternative cd is03:18
Crippy-Boybnovc: Text based installer.03:18
brendonjthi ya all  just upgraded from linux 386 to linux 686  and it is so good so far03:18
Shadowpillarjake1: usually to /home/yourname/.wine/drive_c/03:18
mYth[SeNtiX] eyequeue any idea what should i remove but?03:18
bnovcCrippy-Boy: ah ok, well i *kind* of want her to isntall it herself and i figured the fluffier the better ;)03:18
saga21hey one question03:18
bnovcbut then it didnt work :|03:18
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saga21I need see with my webcam in amsn03:19
eyequeuemYth[SeNtiX] , whatever you don't want to start03:19
saga21is posibly?03:19
kingdongbrendonjt, is it faster03:19
mYth[SeNtiX] xfce403:19
Crippy-Boybnovc: yeah, I dunno just resize the partition with GParted or whatever and then let her do the actual install.03:19
mYth[SeNtiX] automatically starting at startup03:19
mYth[SeNtiX] the gui03:19
Shadowpillarsaga21: yeah, make sure you have the latest version, plug in your webcam, go to preferences03:19
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saga21ok ;)03:19
saga21thank men :P03:20
bnovcCrippy-Boy: it will detect both partitions and ask her to go to it?03:20
brendonjtkingdong:  yip seems  to be03:20
kwilkersnozorro:  thanks for that.  now that server connection will be persistent?03:20
DeeahI have a 10 gig /; an 85 gig /home; and I have about 17 gigs of unpartitioned space all on the same drive.(I only have one drive in this machine) What should I use to add the 17 gigs of unallocated space to the /home; so /home is 100+ gigs instead of 85. I don't want to lose any data if possible.03:20
DeeahI'm using gnome03:21
nozorrokwilkers: works for me with ssh folders. it stays there unless the server goes down or you remove the volume from the desktop03:21
mYth[SeNtiX] eyequeue maybe the update-rc.d has a command line to show all processed automatically starting at starup?03:21
bnovcDeeah: do you need the space03:21
kwilkersnozorro:  beautiful, i'll reboot to check it out.  thanks for the help!03:21
mYth[SeNtiX] eyequeue maybe the update-rc.d has a command line to show all processes* automatically starting at starup?03:21
eyequeuemYth[SeNtiX] , ls /etc/init.d/03:21
mYth[SeNtiX] ah k03:21
abois Squirrel the best sql client for linux?03:22
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Deeahbnovc, not really, but I would like to use it.03:22
mYth[SeNtiX] must be 'gdm' then03:22
kingdongJob 3:1403:22
bnovcDeeah: if you dont really need it, maybe you should just use it as backup or something03:22
sethkDeeah, you can make a new file system in the space, and then use a symbolic link to make it available in /home03:22
jake1how do i uninstall something i installed with Wine03:22
jake1???03:22
Crippy-Boybnovc: Well when its resized you should have so many g unused space, And "Largest continuous free space" should work fine.03:22
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sethkDeeah, that's not exactly adding it to /home, but it can have a similar effect.03:22
sethkDeeah, or you can use lvm03:22
Deeahsethk, So there is no way to use it and make /home larger?03:22
bnovcCrippy-Boy: oh, largest continuous free space referes to the largest free partition?03:22
mYth[SeNtiX] and eyequeue, is there a way to enable it again after i remove it from update-rc.d?03:22
flacohi.... now I delete a symbolic link03:23
bnovci thought it would try to awkwardly partition space in the center03:23
eyequeuemYth[SeNtiX] , yes. man update-rc.d03:23
DeeahI can't just "resize" /home?03:23
bnovcflaco: rm -rf <symlink name?03:23
sethkDeeah, is the unused space contiguous to /home?03:23
bnovc*>03:23
eyequeueflaco, rm03:23
Shadowpillarjake1: invoke its uninstall program?03:23
Crippy-Boybnovc: Im guessing so yeah,03:23
sethkDeeah, lvm will make /home larger03:23
eyequeuebnovc, why -rf?03:23
flacobut..... ln -s /route1 /route203:23
bnovceyequeue: its not necessary, just habit03:23
flacorm -rf what?03:23
sethkDeeah, but it adds a level of complication and I'm not sure it's justified.03:23
nozorroflaco: just like any other file03:23
flacook03:23
eyequeuebnovc, a bad one03:23
jake1ah03:23
jake1got it thanx03:24
pianoboy3333Anyone here a quodlibet user?03:24
bnovceyequeue: nah, i have backups of everything03:24
eyequeueflaco, rm thelink03:24
eyequeuebnovc, but you are advising others here03:24
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flacothks03:24
bnovceyequeue: it wont hurt him to add -rf03:24
sethkDeeah, if the free area is contiguous to /home (just before or just after), a tool like gparted can be used to enlarge /home.  but, always backup before trying something like this.03:24
eyequeuebnovc, it's inappropriate for a symlink03:25
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bnovceyequeue: its overkill, not inappropriate03:25
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eyequeuebnovc, explain how it is appropriate please03:25
ladydoorbnovc: i'm going to throw in with eyequeue. you don't want to attach -rf to rm if you don't absolutely have to03:25
sethkbnovc, to use -r unnecessarily, especially with f, is absolutely wrong03:25
steinexhey, someone here using a thinkpad under ubuntu? i'd have a question about the third mouse button.03:25
ladydoorbnovc: because mistyping could reach havoc03:25
sethkall risk, zero benefit03:25
bohemianMe too, it's a terribly bad habit.03:25
ladydoor*wreak03:26
zebedeecool i have found terminal and the man command, it's like msdos but with more options :-)03:26
bnovcheh03:26
sethkzebedee, we'll ignore that for the moment.   :)03:26
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sethkzebedee, it's also quite wrong.  you can run bash and zsh in windows.03:26
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sethkzebedee, you are confusing the shell with the operating system.03:26
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Crippy-BoyWhy is it that in here everyone feels the need to jump on people if they make a small mistake, Its really quite patronising.03:28
bioticprowhats a good program to make animated gifs from mpg/avi clips?03:28
zebedeesethk. Oh i'll read more and type less... :-)03:28
DarthShrineShadowpillar, Same error with the package from the other repi.03:28
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srisHi, what kind of "recovering" tools is available in ubuntu?03:28
DarthShrinerepo*03:28
sethkCrippy-Boy, WRONG   :)03:28
srisBecause ive done something really stupid03:28
bohemianheh03:28
Crippy-Boysethk: How?03:29
sethkCrippy-Boy, you have an underdeveloped sense of irony.03:29
eyequeueCrippy-Boy, bad advice is dangerous03:29
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sethksris, you have to be more specific.03:29
bnovcyou're obsessing over something that makes no difference03:29
eyequeuebnovc, you are wrong03:29
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bnovci think its kind of humorous, so you can continue03:29
Crippy-Boyeyequeue: So it warrents about 5 or 6 people to jump on someone to say the same thing?03:29
zebedeeI meant msdos as in command line, not dodgy mouse03:29
bnovceyequeue: no, i'm not - you can have your opinion though03:30
srissethk: well, i was trying to fix my sound, because i was unable to change the volume. so I followed the steps in the guide on the wiki.03:30
eyequeueCrippy-Boy, if that someone doesn't listen to the first person03:30
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srissethk: after a reboot it kind of had the oposite effect though, because the sound wasn\t working at all03:30
sethksris, ok, so far that doesn't sound disasterous03:30
srissethk: i tried to fix the edited configs back, but that didnt help03:30
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sethksris, your problem now is you have no sound?03:31
srissethk: no03:31
sethksris, sorry, I'll let you finish03:31
srissethk: almost there :)03:31
Crippy-Boyeyequeue: And what makes you think they'll listen to the 4 people that follow? I find being patronising and having a holier than thou attitude little more helpful than a 'RTFM'03:31
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livingdaylightanyone know whether there is a conflict between lilo and grub?03:31
bohemianCrippy-Boy,   several people merely agreed it was a bad habit, I didn't see any jumping on anyone.03:31
sethklivingdaylight, conflict in what respect?03:31
livingdaylighti have two hardrives and ones got grub and ones got lilo03:31
eyequeueCrippy-Boy, hopefully the target of the bad advice (flaco) will note that it is unacceptable to the variety who speak against it03:31
srissethk: one of the steps told me to install something like libesd-arla0 which i did03:32
sethklivingdaylight, only the master will be used anyway03:32
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Crippy-Boybohemian: Its not just now, Ive seen it a couple of times which is why i said something.03:32
srissethk: well, i though it would be a good idea to remove that again03:32
sethklivingdaylight, makes no difference what's on any drives other than primary master03:32
livingdaylightsethk: in that i've installed another os on sdb but now sda is not available to me at bootup. Looks like Zenwalk took out my Ubuntu menu.lst03:32
Timmy|GDSI need a overclocking utility for i386 so I dont have to access the BIOS03:32
eyequeuecrimsun, and what is wrong with rtfm?03:32
srissethk: so i ran apt-get remove thatname03:32
Crippy-Boybohemian: Normally i would keep my mouth shut.03:32
srisand it startet to remove everything, a lot of x stuff and gnome stuff03:32
eyequeueCrippy-Boy, and what is wrong with rtfm?03:32
bohemianNormally you're better company :)03:32
sethklivingdaylight, if your menu.lst was clobbered, then yes, you have a problem, but I can't see why zenwalk would touch menu.lst03:32
eyequeuecrimsun, misdirect, disregard03:33
Crippy-Boyeyequeue: What is right with it?03:33
srissethk: this is my first linuxinstall so im not really know what im doing03:33
bohemianThis is probably the wrong cvhannel for this discussion...03:33
srissethk: but i aborted in after a while03:33
flacohey man.. I was on the phone.. and I say thank you for your advice...03:33
eyequeueCrippy-Boy, the documentation written by the author is there for a reason, and is intended to explain the command in question03:33
srissethk: and no, i can boot, log in, but there's nothing there03:33
kingdongwhat bittorrent client do you guys use03:33
livingdaylightsethk: well, i see no other explanation. So, i figured i need to manually add ubuntu's menu.lst to the Zenwalk one and i'll be ok03:33
eternalswdI just bought a new external harddrive and was wondering if there are any filesystems other than FAT32 that is fully supported by both linux and windows ie something that can write files larger than 4GB03:33
sethksris, if you can boot and log in, quite a bit is there.03:33
Crippy-Boyeyequeue: In theory... If i give you a 'Brick laying for dummies' book and tell you to build a house do you think you could?03:34
srissethk: yeah i think its mostley gnome desktopstuff03:34
livingdaylightsethk: but i've never used lilo and i don't know where the menu.lst in Zenwalk is, to check whether my theory is right03:34
sethklivingdaylight, lilo uses a file, lilo.conf.  but, remember, lilo.conf is only used once, when lilo is installed (or reinstalled)03:34
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eyequeueCrippy-Boy, i don't have the ability to get out of bed, so no.  i do have the ability to type on a keyboard, which i assume all here have as well03:34
sethklivingdaylight, the equivalent of menu.lst is written to the drive.03:35
srissethk: libesd-alsa0 is the name of the package i tried to remove03:35
l33t_n00bwhat program do you use to configure wireless03:35
sethksris, let's look at it from another direction.  did you lose any important files, or did you just mess up your install?03:35
srissethk: i think i just messed up my install03:35
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srissethk: im running from the CD now03:36
sethksris, why not just reinstall?03:36
sethksris, unless you want to track down the problem for educational reasons.03:36
livingdaylightsethk: so, any ideas? I don't want to have to physcally connect and disconnect everytime i want to go into one or the other hardrive to get into Ubuntu or Zenwalk, everytime03:36
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Crippy-Boyeyequeue: And if someone comes across a problem even though theyve read the manual, Or cant find a manual, Or cant find anything relavent to what they need in the manual? And above all else its just pure arrogance. If you dont like a question, don't answer it.03:36
srissethk: well first of all im curious of why removing that package started to remove a lot of other things03:36
kitchelivingdaylight: you can use either bootloader if you want you just have to edit the config of one of them to boot both03:37
sethklivingdaylight, I wish I knew more about zenwalk.  Why did you install zenwalk in the first place?  Is there something that grub can't do for you?03:37
ladydoor!attitude03:37
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:37
kingdongarr-tee-eff-emm!03:37
eyequeueCrippy-Boy, if someone states they don't understand a man page, they get a different response03:37
sethksris, oh, because there are dependencies03:37
JoseStefani had a dream, someone hacked into my ubuntu by using the recovery console :/03:37
nomasteryodapeace people03:37
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sethksris, when you install something, say X, the package manager will say oh, you also need y, z, a, b, and c03:37
srissethk: ouch03:37
Deeahsethk, http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7358/screenshotqv9.png03:37
jake1anyone know of Visual Basic is free03:37
bohemianCrippy-Boy,    what is your problem? If you don't like the way people provide help and advice, provide it yourself in a manner you deem appropriate.03:37
nomasteryodaand greetings from the evil side of the net... esus03:37
jake1the one by microsoft03:37
sethksris, so, when you uninstall X, it then says hey, you no longer need y,z,a,b,c.03:37
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sethksris, and out they go.03:37
Crippy-Boyeyequeue: I really dont care to carry this on as its not going anywhere. i just dont agree with it.03:37
l33t_n00bwhat program is the most popular for configuring and maintaining wireless profiles?03:38
srissethk: but i wasnt uninstalling X, i just thought it was some soundspecific package03:38
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sethksris, Unless you are seriously short of disk space, it's better not to uninstall (except to fix a problem).03:38
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viriliushi ppl03:38
sethksris, it's an alsa library, so you are correct.03:38
Crippy-Boybohemian: Im not looking for help, and i do oftern provide it myself, I was merely voicing my opinion.03:38
srissethk: well yeah, i was just trying to get my sound back03:38
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sethksris, but possibly your dependency data got messed up, or you stumbled on an obscure bug in the package manager.03:38
livingdaylightsethk: why did i install Zenwalk, is there something Grub can't do for you? i don't understand? Do you mean, why did i install Zenwalk, is there something Ubunt can't do for me?03:38
linuchsanJoseStefan:must be your mother03:38
sethksris, uninstalling that should not have impacted things other than sound.  However, it appears that it did.03:39
Jack_Sparrowjake1: Realbasic for linux is free, it uses most of the same syntax and if you buy the upgrade it will compile for either linux or WIndows03:39
srissethk: i got supicious right away because it prompted is was going to remove 30XXX files or something03:39
sethksris, and your system is in a state now where it might take many hours to figure out what happened, and why.03:39
Crippy-BoyRealBasic is aweful.03:39
sethksris, yes, that's definitely bizarre  :)03:39
nomasteryodai hear it is better than kdevelop03:39
sethklivingdaylight, you are using operating system names and boot loader names as if they were the same thing.03:40
srissethk: i see, i was hoping there was some gnome-desktop recover stuff around :)03:40
Jack_SparrowBasic in general is not great03:40
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Crippy-Boykdevelop is an IDE, RealBasic is a language, How can they be compaired?03:40
sethklivingdaylight, grub has nothing specifically to do with linux, it's a general purpose boot loader.03:40
viriliusI just install edgy knot2 and did the update to every packet... at the moment I have installed Xorg 7.1 and fglrx 8.28.8... However, the fglrx drivers isn't loading! :( Any idea? I though fglrx 8.28.8 already supported Xorg 7.103:40
kitcheJack_Sparrow: I heard Helix is good03:40
sethklivingdaylight, when you install another operating system, that doesn't mean you have to install that other operating system's boot loader.03:40
eyequeuevirilius, /join #ubuntu+103:40
eyequeue!edgy03:40
sethklivingdaylight, of course, poorly designed o/s installs like windows clobber whatever boot manager happens to be there.03:40
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule03:40
Timmy|GDSI need a overclocking utility for i386 so I dont have to access the BIOS, pm me with a solution please!03:40
sethklivingdaylight, but if that happens, you just reinstall grub.03:41
kitchesethk: slackware does that by default :(03:41
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l33t_n00b!schedule03:41
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule03:41
Jack_SparrowHE was looking for VB, RealBasic is close in syntax and has the ability to vross compile which is why I suggesated that program03:41
srissethk: correct me if im wrong, but i installed it all on a single partition. that would mean that a reinstall would erase all my data too?03:41
jake1Jack_Sparrow... i've been looking all over for VB for Linux03:41
Jack_SparrowNope03:41
not-a-botGood evening :)03:41
Crippy-BoyJack_Sparrow: I appologise.03:41
viriliuseyequeue: thanks and sorry03:41
sethkkitche, no, not the current version.03:41
nomasteryodasris, yes you are right... it would toast your data03:41
Jack_SparrowCrippy-Boy: np03:41
srissethk: theres no way of simply reinstalling gnome?03:41
eyequeuevirilius, no prob03:41
sethksris, no, you don't need to erase anything.03:41
jake1it's not microsoft doesn't make it do they?03:41
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sethksris, when you install, if there are already file systems that the install can use, it gives you the option of installing without erasing.03:42
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Timmy|GDSm$ is 64Y03:42
Jack_SparrowVB is MS... RB is not03:42
livingdaylightsethk: no, i know the difference between an os and a loader, i was confused as to what you meant. It wasn't clear to me however, that i didn't need to install lilo, I was just following the default installation03:42
sethksris, yes, you can reinstall gnome, I'm just not sure it will fix it.03:42
sethksris, but it can't hurt.03:42
sethksris, just bring up synaptic and find gnome and do a reinstall03:42
kitcheJack_Sparrow: nevermind I was thinking of realplayer not BASIC03:42
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Jack_Sparrowk03:43
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not-a-botI just setup my OV519 according to this http://blog.thedarkmere.net/index.php?/archives/14-Ubuntu-ov51x-jpeg-guide.html and everything seems to work fine, no more modprobe errors and the little LED on my cam is lit03:43
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sethklivingdaylight, ok.  My thought would be to reinstall grub, and then add the new o/s to grub's menu.  assuming grub can handle it.  That's what I meant about whether there is something grub can't handle.03:43
not-a-botisn't it supposed to be available as /dev/video1 now?03:43
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srissethk: how would i do that? no, from the CD, or from the "recovery consol" ?03:43
not-a-botI only have dev/video0 which is mny tv-card :S03:43
ubuntu_newbiesethk: i tried the howto but it doesnt help authentication against active directory, it just deals with getting windows to see ubuntu shares via samba03:43
thomashey guys, i'm having trouble with a cron job. I have set it up to execute a script every half hour, but it isn't. I have tried both as my user and root. The script is executable, and works from terminal. Can somebody help me figure this out???03:44
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sethksris, you said you can log in.  so you can do a command line reinstall of ubuntu-desktop03:44
sethksris, if your desktop is there, only missing sound, then you can use synaptic which is easier to use than the command line utility apt-get03:44
srissethk: well, after i log in i cant do anything03:44
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sethksris, give me an example of something you can't do.03:44
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srissethk: nah, my desktop isnt there03:45
sethksris, ok, then command line it is.03:45
srissethk: after i log in, i just get a brown screen03:45
srissethk: i tried some hotkeys but that didnt work03:45
srislike alt-F203:45
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ubuntuHI03:46
thomastype ctrl alt F503:46
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srisand when i tried to restart the shell, well, i dont even know what happend03:46
ubuntuWhat can I use on the LiveCD to burn a DVD?03:46
sethksris, ok.  try    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop         probably it will say already installed, but try it.03:46
quietdoes anyone know what the entries are for kismet source= for ndiswrapper(wlan0) cards?03:46
nozorrothomas: maybe you have to restart cron?03:46
thomasubuntu: install gnomebaker03:46
ubuntuthomas: LiveCD03:46
thomasnozorro, i have tried this.03:46
eyequeueubuntu, the drive will be occupied, you can't03:46
srissethk: sorry if im repeating myself, but where should i execute that command_03:46
sethksris, no, better, do this:   sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu-desktop03:46
quietubuntu: you can install n the livecd03:46
livingdaylightsethk: ah..so that is what you meant. :) How do i reinstall grub though? i wonder if that is beyond me. I can go and get menu.lst from ubuntu and add it to Zen's menu.lst but reinstalling grub sounds like a big job03:46
seshomaruhello - can anyone tell me whats the command that will display the type of CPU I have?03:46
ubuntueviltux: It's another drive, DUH!!!03:46
quietseshomaru: cat /proc/cpuinfo03:46
ubuntuIt even sez blank DVD-R on my desktop03:46
sethksris, all you have is the command line, so you have to type it there.  :)03:46
thomasubuntu: you can install gnomebaker in a live setting. However, you won't have enough swap/memory to burn a cd.03:46
sethksris, if you can get a terminal window03:47
seshomaruquiet, thanks!03:47
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ubuntuthomas: DVD.  Why not?  I am trying to burn an iso image on another hard drive03:47
eviltuxwhat? 0.o03:47
sethksris, if you can't get a terminal window, then do:    control-alt-f103:47
thomasubuntu: unless you have a swap drive somewhere on a disk.03:47
sethksris, that wil give you a console login.03:47
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srissethk: hm, no i cant, or well, i can switch to another terminal with alt-shit-Fx03:47
kielbyis anyone having trouble accessing www.ubuntu.com? it times out for me03:47
krackercan anyone recommend a way to mount a gpg/pgp filesystem from a file on my usb/disk under Ubuntu?03:47
thomasubuntu: type swapon /dev/hd** <--- w/e your swap partition is, if you have one.03:47
sethksris, ok, those are consoles.  use a console.03:47
srissethk: yeah, that works, okey than, thanks for the help :)03:48
thomasthen you can probably burn a dvd no problem.03:48
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sethksris, "terminal" usually means a terminal window running in the desktop03:48
eyequeuekielby, no delay here03:48
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ubuntuthomas: hm... the disk is ntfs, and only one partition.  could I use a usb key as swap?03:48
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thomasubuntu: yeah you'll have to format it.03:48
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apecataargh, i happened to hibernate my system03:48
apecatdid a hard reboot03:48
thomasubuntu: that's a good idea. Just make sure you set your burn speed slower than the read speed of your usb key.03:48
apecatand it hibernates itself again when it it booted03:48
sethkubuntu, you can, but usb access is slow, so it's not a great idea.03:48
apecathow do i wake this thing up?03:49
thomasapecat: i have never been able to hibernate ubuntu.03:49
apecatthomas: heh meneither03:49
ubuntuthomas: gnomebaker do overburns alright?  issue is this dvd image is like 60mbytes too big and nero isn't cutting it03:49
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seshomaruquiet, how about my motherboard?03:49
apecatand i wouldn't want to03:49
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apecatjust happened to press hibernate by mistake03:49
ubuntuthomas: not sure if it is hardware or software issue as to overburning not happening03:49
thomasapecat: usually it saves my swap properly, but messes up when i power it back on.03:49
krackerjust trying to mount a file based gpg/pgp fat file system in a file on another fat filesystem03:49
ubuntusethk: Why is that?  It's USB 2, and quite fast on win03:49
sethkseshomaru, there are files in /sys that describe your hardware03:49
thomasubuntu: can you skim some files out of it?03:49
thomasubuntu: you can open the iso in fileroller.03:50
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sethkubuntu, it's just a relatively slow device.  but for burning, that may not matter.03:50
seshomarusethk,  thanks03:50
apecatwell, this is sort of disturbing, sinc eit falls asleep/dies againa ftaer teh reboot03:50
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sethkseshomaru, kde has a very nice program to display stuff about your hardware.  gnome probably does as well.03:50
ubuntuthomas: yea, it's a dvd image though.. and I'm not sure if it would work properly if one of the VOB files was missing03:50
shadowhywinddoes anyone have any experence with wireless and ipw220003:51
thomasits a video dvd... didn't know that.03:51
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thomasgnomebaker has overburn03:51
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thomasbut 60mb might be cutting it.03:51
thomasand who knows whether or not your dvd player will read it properly afterwards.03:51
livingdaylightsethk: aguess, there's nothing more to say03:51
ubuntuother option is to reauthor the whole thing using DVD Shrink, but I don't want to do that.03:51
seshomarusethk, im on gnome , i m looking thru /sys but im afraid i dont really understand03:52
thomasseshomaru: /sys really isn't important.03:52
thomasit is important03:52
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seshomaruthomas, i want to find the type of motherboard this machine has03:53
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thomasyou don't know???03:53
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seshomaruno03:53
thomasthere's probably a command to do that.03:54
thomasbut i don't know it.03:54
seshomarui bought this computer a long time ago ,before i even knew what an OS is03:54
thomaswhy is it you need to know?03:54
sethkseshomaru, seshomaru specifically for cpu, you can do:   cat /proc/cpuinfo03:54
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thomasis there another issue?03:54
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seshomaruthomas - i want to change the Mboard to a new one (that supports Nvidia)03:55
_peteis there an easy way to download files from the repositories to a thumb drive and install them using synaptic on another system??03:55
seshomaruthe current one doesnt have a slot for videocard03:55
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thomasseshomaru, so just buy a new motherboard that supports nvidia?03:55
Peloevening folks03:55
seshomarusethk , thanks i found the CPU03:55
seshomaruthomas yes03:55
thomaswhy do you need to know what you have now if you're buying a new one.03:56
PathagenXso he can sell that one?03:56
Crippy-Boythomas: i think he wanted to find out what the socket type wsa?03:56
Crippy-Boywas*03:56
ubuntuwhoever said somethign about wireless, it's a huge PITA FYI =)03:56
seshomarubut as i understand it has to be similar in some ways to the old one, thats what the guy in the shop told me03:56
seshomarui know nothing of hardware03:56
Peloanyone know how to associate an icon with a file type in ubu ?  , I tried with rightclick properties but it only works for that one file03:56
ubuntuWhat would be proper way to open a file browser as root?03:56
PathagenXsudo filebrowser03:57
Peloubuntu  gksudo nautilus03:57
Crippy-Boyseshomaru: Yeah, you have to get one that supports that processor, If its old it may just be easier buying a new motherboard and processor.03:57
PathagenXor if you are already root, filebrowser03:57
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thomasseshomaru: if your motherboard now is older than you know, you won't find one around today similar to it.03:57
ubuntuPelo: thx03:57
thomasyeah thats what the guy was talking about03:57
seshomaruCrippy-Boy,  thanks03:57
thomasif you're not planning on buying a new cpu03:57
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thomaswhich you should really should consider... getting a new cpu.03:58
seshomaruthomas that why i want to find out my Mboard.....03:58
Crippy-Boyseshomaru: what type of processor is it/03:58
seshomaruif the Mboard is too old - i'll get a new CPU03:58
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seshomaruPentium 4 2.2003:58
seshomaru2.20 ghz03:58
Peloanyone know how to associate an icon with a file type in ubu ?  , I tried with rightclick properties but it only works for that one file03:58
thomasits a p4? thats not that old!03:58
Crippy-BoyAhh, You should be fine with just a new mobo03:58
seshomaruits 3 years old03:58
LOL>.< I'm in big trouble... i did sudo mv /etc/ jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin ~/Desktop and it moved the ect directory over to my desktop.. and i didnt want that... now i cant see to be able to copy it back :O03:58
Crippy-Boysocket 478 (if i remember rightly)03:58
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seshomaruin China - 3 years is old....03:59
seshomaruok - thank you all ...must go03:59
thomasas long as it's an intel board that supports pentium 4. ask the people you're buying the new motherboard from to make sure it supports P4.03:59
Crippy-BoyHes gone :-)03:59
thomasLOL: thats quite a problem.03:59
Crippy-Boyhehe03:59
ubuntuOk that didn't work out well04:00
ubuntuHow would I mount a filesystem so regular user can read it?04:00
LOLthomas, anything i can do to revert it?04:00
thomaswhat kind of filesystem?04:00
ubuntuntfs04:00
ubuntu_newbiesethk: you can stil help mi out on that ting04:00
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thomasubuntu: mount -t ntfs /dev/hd** /where/you/want/mounted04:00
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peterockscan i use synaptic to download packages to the disk w/out installing them?04:01
ubuntuthomas: "so regular user can read it"04:01
not-a-botHello, where could I find help with my stupid webcam, I'm desperate :-(04:01
thomasubuntu: then sudo chown <your user name> /where/you/mounted/it04:01
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not-a-botWhy won't it show up as /dev/video1 ?04:01
thomasubuntu: if you had patience you would have let me finish typing.04:01
ugarithow does one install new themes in gnome?  I just downloaded http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3161804:01
superjew9020does any1 no y everytime my screensaver comes on my whole computer locks up04:01
Crippy-Boygah, damn mailing lists, Havent opened mail in a couple of days and *BAM*04:01
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thomasugarit system>preferences>theme04:01
thomasand import the file you downloaded.04:02
thomasLOL: your entire etc folder is in a bin on your desktop???04:02
peterockssuperjew9020: i have the same problem but only with certain ones04:02
ubuntuthis ubuntu dealie is somewhat compelling04:02
thomasubuntu: absolutely.04:02
peterockssuperjew9020: i havent taken the time to resolve the issue, but i think it may be a driver issue04:02
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LOLthomas, im not sure if its in a "bin" but its on my desktop now, not in / anymore, and it has a little lock icon over it04:02
ugaritthomas: I did and got this error: file format is invalid04:02
thomasubuntu: and even if you still need windows, you don't have to install it per se... check out vmware player.04:02
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dzer0hello04:03
Peloubuntu http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php04:03
dzer0I need some help with a few things04:03
ubuntuthomas: tried experiment installing ubuntu for a DFU... didn't entirely work out.  might try again in a few years04:03
thomasLOL: is it in a compressed file?04:03
not-a-botdoes noone use a webcam and a tv-card simultaniously here?04:03
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superjew9020o cuz all of the ones that came with my ubuntu always r lockin up04:03
Peloubuntu  http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html04:03
caminomasterhi04:03
LOLthomas doesnt seem like it, just a regular folder04:03
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Peloubuntu , just a few linux basics04:03
caminomasterwho can help me with midi?04:03
thomasubuntu: follow a vmwareplayer qemu for windows guide. you can install ubuntu inside windows.04:03
ubuntuthomas: nah... I like my windows stuff to run full speed.  I might use freebsd or ubuntu or such for desktop when I get faster hardware though..04:03
espressohelp!! I can't find where I hid my php.ini file04:03
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thomasubuntu: just until you get used to it.04:03
dzer01, I have 2 displays, a dell 2405fpw at 1920x1200 and a cheap 1280x1024, and I cant get the dell to run at full res, and the second monitor wont work at all04:03
dzer02, I need to find an XGL tutorial04:04
ubuntuPelo: I'm a Unix sysadmin, not a newbie :)04:04
thomasubuntu: you are using a livecd. installed ubuntu is at least twice as fast.04:04
thomas!res04:04
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:04
Pelodzer0  there was one on diggs a few days ago , do a search04:04
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bioticprowhat is a good program to convert avi to animated gif in linux?04:05
PhuzionAlright, I think I officially screwed up apt, every time I try to do apt-cache search (anything), I get this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2297304:05
thomasand dzer0, rather than telling us what model of computer you have, more importantly is what kind of graphics card you have.04:05
ubuntuthomas: I'm well aware of that.  I'm just not sure it's ready yet04:05
PhuzionWhat did I do?04:05
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thomasubuntu: take it from me... it is definitely ready.04:05
LOLthomas, how can i change the permission of the ect folder through a command?04:05
Pulshionhi, does anyone know programs that can crack .rar password?04:05
dzer0thomas: didn't say model of computer, said model of monitor, and I am using an nvidia 7600 GT on PCI-E04:05
thomasubuntu: try installing it in a virtual machine in windows.04:05
ubuntuthomas: dunno.  another thing is a lot of my income comes from online poker, and I'd need online poker clients to run ... they don't04:05
dzer0also, what's the apt command to search for a package?04:06
ubuntuthomas: meh... I've done that with every OS... :)04:06
thomasLOL: you didn't answer my question. exactly where are the contents of your /etc folder now? and are they in a compressed folder?04:06
Pulshionhi, does anyone know programs that can crack .rar password?04:06
LOLdzero apt-cache search programname04:06
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LOLthomas, i said that im not sure what you mean, its just a regular folder04:06
thomasdzer0: you need to install the 3d nvidia drivers. they are in apt i believe.04:06
ubuntudzer0: man apt...  if you use "/searchterm" when you are in manual page viewer, it will search for a string.  then hit enter again or n for next occurence of string04:06
thomasLOL in /etc on your desktop?04:06
ubuntuthomas: also wtf is with the black on white terminal by default? >:P04:07
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LOLthomas... yeah i accidentaly moved the /etc/ folder to my desktop... now i cant move it back to /04:07
thomasubuntu: sorry its not white on black like windows.04:07
Pulshionhi, does anyone know programs that can crack .rar password?04:07
Renan_s2Pulshion: it is impossible to crack RAR password.04:07
dzer0thomas: how would I go about doing that? not really the best linux user ever04:07
ubuntuthomas: white on black isn't a windows thing... it's a common sense thing!04:07
thomasLOL: do sudo cp /home/<user>/Desktop/etc/ /etc/04:07
PulshionRenan_s2 -- i seen it being done04:08
eyequeueubuntu, much easier on the eyes04:08
Renan_s2Pulshion: then you would need some "brute-force" atack method04:08
thomasubuntu: you can change the setting if it annoys you. but black on white tends to blend in with every other program known to man.04:08
eyequeueubuntu, a white background is like staring at a lightbulb04:08
PulshionRenan_s2 -- anything in linux?04:08
LOLthomas : sudo: uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file!04:08
PhuzionAlright, I think I officially screwed up apt, every time I try to do apt-cache search (anything), I get this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2297304:08
ubuntueyequeue: exactly04:09
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dzer0how do I install the nvidia 3d drivers?04:09
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eyequeueubuntu, white on black is much less irritating04:09
sproingiePhuzion: actually i think that's just the mirrors acting up04:09
ubuntueyequeue: uhm, again, exactly.  that's what I said above :)04:09
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PhuzionOh?04:09
[WA] dlichtermanHelp, I borked my xserver trying to install the radeon drivers and all I get it a black screen.  Can someone walk me though the steps to get it back up?04:10
gran1Hey mates quick question: How do you perform a search with apt get from the console? I am trying to install apache 1.3 but I dont know what the package is called04:10
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sproingiePhuzion: try another mirror.  i've had good luck with uk.archive.ubuntu.com04:10
thomasMost web pages are black on white...04:10
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sproingiePhuzion: if you change the mirrors, you have to apt-get update of course04:10
sharpmp4's don't work...04:10
thomashow many programs have a black background?04:10
Phuzionsproingie:  just change us.ubuntu to uk.ubuntu?04:10
dzer0thomas: should I install nvidia-glx? is that the one?04:10
LOLthomas, can you give me the command to change the permissions on /etc/ so i can move it?04:10
eyequeuethomas, and that makes it what?  mass stupidity?04:10
thomassharp: install gstreamer plugins.04:10
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sharpthomas, did04:10
sproingiePhuzion: or pick a country code til one works :)04:10
ubuntuweb page has more colors and more black on it than a terminal window though04:10
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thomasdzer0: i don't know, i don't use nvidia, but if i were to guess, i'd say those were them.04:11
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Phuzionsproingie:  thanks04:11
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truNWAhello04:11
eyequeuethomas, they probably are mimicing a redmond company or something04:11
sharpthomas, installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse (and the rest of them)04:11
thomasLOL: that also requires sudo. how did you mess up your sudo? you do have a root password right?04:11
gran1Anyone know the answer to my question regarding searching for a package name with apt-get?04:11
corsairok this wireless thing is a total bunch of **** with the 4318.  Darn thing says i have a connection.  the network says there is a signal. but network-manager says there are no connections and wont wont provide a selection for setting one up.  Any ideas04:11
LOLthomas, yeah i have my root pass04:11
champ`measureI want to install Ubuntu onto a new computer, I made the CD already out of the ISO file that I downloaded. But when I put in the CD I get an error : Emm386 : Warning : Address line A20 already enabled. Anyone able to help me out?04:11
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thomascorsair, are you using WPA?04:12
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corsairi would like to and wpasupplicant is installed04:12
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LOLthomas i guess the sudo got messed up becuase its located in /ect/ ? im not sure... i would log on my root account and move it but im afraid ubuntu wont start up if i restart04:12
thomasLOL oh yeah.. lol04:12
phiwum2Hey ho.  Ubuntu newbie here.  I'm a long time Slackware user, so I don't know diddly about packaging systems like apt.04:12
thomasLOL su root04:12
thomasLOL: i hope you can do that.04:12
PhuzionYeah, this isn't working04:12
phiwum2I need to get an older version of a package.  How do I do that?04:12
PhuzionI'm getting to 44% on updating the first mirror04:13
dzer0shit, how do I run the display setup again? it detected my SECOND monitor as my first04:13
thomasPhivum2: check out synaptic04:13
PhuzionAnd it just locks04:13
LOLthomas, it doesnt change anything omg04:13
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bluefusionxlanyone know how i change welcome messages for proftpd?04:13
ubuntuthomas: uhm, I still can't get regular user to get access to mounted win partition04:13
jayteeI just loaded Ubuntu for the first time tonight. I loaded it on one of my computers that was running Windows Server 2003 and now it dual boots and runs great!04:13
phiwum2thomas: I know how to get packages, but not older versions.04:13
thomasLOL: don't worry, its not the end of the world..04:13
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ubuntubluefusionxl: /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ?04:13
thomasLOL: if you can't use sudo or root, you can use a livecd to do it.04:13
[WA] dlichtermanCan someone help me fix my xserver, I installed the CVS versions to try to get 3d acceleration, and All I get it a black screen04:13
thomasLOL: you just need to mount your / partition and your home partition.04:13
LOLthomas >.< its my first perfect install of ubuntu, ill throw my computer out of the window and kill myself afterwards if i cant fix this without reinstalling ubuntu04:13
bluefusionxlNo such file or directory.. plus its not in the config04:14
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dzer0grr, use nv driver or nvidia driver? whats the difference?04:14
thomasbluefusionxl: check out gproftpd04:14
Crippy-BoyLOL: You dont need to reinstall, Just boot the live cd and move etc back04:14
corsairi removed and reinstalled the network-manager.  Are there some files I need to mess with to get it to do its thing?04:14
stephansanyone used google earth on 606 with res 1280x800?04:14
eyequeuephiwum2, tried "man apt-get" yet?04:14
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phiwum2eyequeue: I did, but I missed the relevant bits!04:14
champ`measureI want to install Ubuntu onto a new computer, I made the CD already out of the ISO file that I downloaded. But when I put in the CD I get an error : Emm386 : Warning : Address line A20 already enabled. Anyone able to help me out?04:14
thomasLOL: use a live cd, mount both partitions, and then use sudo cp04:14
eyequeuephiwum2,               A specific version of a package can be selected for installation04:15
PhuzionSo, can someone verify if 195.248.90.54 (uk.archive.ubuntu.com) is working?04:15
LOLthomas or crippy-boy, how do i do that? can you type out the commands i would need to input?04:15
jesus_why amsn dot works properly on ubuntu?04:15
ubuntuSoooo how do I either 1) Phuzion responds to ping04:15
thomaschamp`measure: did you get the cd off of the ubuntu site or mirror?04:15
brian98right I'm ditching me ati card and about to put ina new nvidia04:15
eyequeuephiwum2, you know less commands no doubt, grep for that line04:15
phiwum2eyequeue: Thanks!04:15
ubuntuPhuzion: responds to ping04:15
brian98more fun and games no doubt04:15
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eyequeuephiwum2, sure thing04:15
Phuzionubuntu:  I figured that, it gets to 44% then stalls04:15
champ`measurethomas: I downloaded the .iso file off the wedsite04:15
ubuntuSo... how do I either 1) mount filesystem so regular user can read it or 2) launch a file browser as root ?04:15
thomas195.248.90.54 is working04:16
KanRiNiNHey guys, I'm searching in the forums right now, I installed Network Manager-gnome through Synaptic, but I get nm: 'a.out': No such file04:16
ubuntuPhuzion: shrug.  quit and start again?04:16
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Phuzionapt and apptitude don't work04:16
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robin_greets. A problem. Firefox won't prompt to save passes on certain banking sites but konqueror always does. Is there something specific to be done to enable this ?04:16
sethkKanRiNiN, nm is not the name of the file04:16
ubuntuWorking pretty good, too.  Tried my damndest to flood it and only 2% packet loss!04:16
sethkKanRiNiN, nm is the utility to dump the symbols from an executable file.04:17
ubunturobin_: forums.mozillazine.org04:17
sethkKanRiNiN, the default file name to use is a.out04:17
sethkKanRiNiN, since there is no file a.out, you get that message04:17
sethkKanRiNiN, but why are you trying to run nm in the first place?04:17
dzer0what's the command to restart linux?04:17
dzer0i mean04:17
dzer0lol04:17
dzer0xgl04:17
thomasLOL: you there?04:17
ubuntudzer0: uh, reboot ?04:17
sethkdzer0, shutdown -r now04:17
Crippy-Boysudo reboot.04:17
LOLthomas yup04:17
sethkdzer0, with sudo if you aren't root04:17
KanRiNiNMy roomate's router is wpa, so like the forum said, I downloaded wpa supplicant and network manager, and I'd really really like netowrk manager to work..04:18
KanRiNiNI'm just not sure how to trouble shoot it04:18
thomasLOL: don't shutdown the computer, just hold the power button down. then use a livecd.04:18
sethkKanRiNiN, for some reason you think network manager is somehow related to nm04:18
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sethkKanRiNiN, nm is a program completely unrelated to network manager04:18
ubuntuSo... how do I either 1) mount filesystem so regular user can read it or 2) launch a file browser as root ?04:18
LOLthomas im not sure if i have a livecd, i have the ubuntu install cd (dapper) and i guess failsafe from GRUB is the same thing, am i right?04:18
Crippy-BoyWhoops, lol, I think dzer0 wanted to restart xgl :D well, looks like that did the job anyway :D04:18
[WA] dlichtermanCan someone help me fix my xserver, I installed the CVS versions to try to get 3d acceleration, and All I get it a black screen04:19
sethkKanRiNiN, and the computer really doesn't care that there is another program, somewhere, that starts with n and has an m in it04:19
fastoyCan anybody help with ubuntu on ThinkPad 600E? Boot hangs at "Loading Linux Kernel" - 42%04:19
thomasLOL: you can use the ubuntu dapper install cd.04:19
thomasLOL: once you're booted in the livecd, come back and i'll help you out more.04:19
sethkKanRiNiN, if you want to run Network-Manager, you type Network-Manager04:19
thomasLOL: remember, DON"T SHUT DOWN. just power off.04:19
sethkKanRiNiN, I'm not sure if it has capital letters or dashes or whatever.04:19
LOLthomas oh ok ill try that04:20
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sethkKanRiNiN, in breezy it is network-manager.  I think in dapper it is NetworkManager04:20
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KanRiNiNyea ok, sudo NetworkManager, but nothing happens just like at startup.  sethk isn't there a grep or something I can use04:20
sethkKanRiNiN, grep finds strings inside of files, has nothing to help you here.04:20
sethkKanRiNiN, it isn't possible that nothing happens04:20
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Crippy-Boyfastoy: have you already installed or are you trying to boot the live cd?04:20
sethkKanRiNiN, it can say "no such program".  It can do something and return you to a prompt.  it absolutely _cannot_ do nothing.04:21
fastoyCrippy-Booting Live CD. 192 MB RAM04:21
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BHSPitLappyhi all.04:21
KanRiNiNsethk: then it returns to prompt04:21
fastoyTurned off QuickBoot in BIOS.04:21
RawSewage_Anime video has dual tracks:  English and Japanese.  What tool do I use to set a video file's Default to Japanese and not English04:21
sethkKanRiNiN, ok, that means it found the program.  It may be running and you don't realize it.04:21
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Crippy-Boyfastoy: im not sure then, Try using the alternate or the server install cd, I installed with the server cd on here (Thinkpad T23)04:21
sethkKanRiNiN, are you on the desktop or in a console?04:21
KanRiNiNconsole04:22
KanRiNiNwell04:22
bmanHow do I change the timezone from the console?04:22
KanRiNiNI have a terminal open04:22
ubuntu_newbiesethk: i stil havin truble printin form dis damn ting04:22
fastoyCrippy-Ok. I thought this was supposed to be "easy."04:22
BHSPitLappyI have a big dependency circle, seemingly revolving around lbc6 2.3.6.6, and it prevents me from installing a bunch of stuff. heard of this?04:22
sethkKanRiNiN, that's nice, but you are on the desktop?04:22
phiwum2eyequeue: Can I see what versions are available?04:22
KanRiNiNyes04:22
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sethkKanRiNiN, do this:   ps aux | grep -i network04:22
eyequeuephiwum2, apt-cache show foo | less04:22
sethkKanRiNiN, see if anything shows up.04:22
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phiwum2eyequeue: Thanks again.04:22
Crippy-Boyfastoy: It normally is :P, I have no idea why the lice cd hangs for you, But i had a few problems with the live cd installing on other computers so i never bother with it now.04:22
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Crippy-Boylive*04:23
sethkKanRiNiN, what you were probably trying to ask before is whether there is a utility to find out where the file NetworkManager is.  There is such a utility, but it won't help you.04:23
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eyequeuephiwum2, no prob04:23
fastoySeems like there are lots of problems with TPs. I just had one lying around.04:23
sethkKanRiNiN, because, when you are returned to the prompt with no error message, that means NetworkManager was found.04:23
stormchas3ranyone know anything about the Ubuntu Certified Pro Exam?04:23
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fastoyCrippy-Thanks.04:23
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sethkKanRiNiN, you can do   which NetworkManager    and it will show you where it is04:23
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thomasstormchas3r: sounds like a scam.04:23
sethkKanRiNiN, that's if your report is accurate.04:23
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KanRiNiNok I got the report back from the first command04:24
sethkstormchas3r, sure, you send me money, and you get a certificate and a secred decoder ring04:24
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KanRiNiNsynaptic installed it to sbin04:24
KanRiNiNso I need to link it to bin right?04:24
KanRiNiNso it starts when my user starts?04:24
stormchas3rsethk, really, little orphan annie style04:24
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ubuntu_newbieyo...can anyone help mi print to a windows print server?04:24
stormchas3rsethk, better drink your ovaltine04:24
sethkKanRiNiN, I think network manager doesn't do what you think it does.04:24
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corsairok, so where are the files the must be edited so that the system can do wpa without network-manager cause its not working for me either.   the icon is there and it shows the wired connections but nothing for wireless04:24
sethkKanRiNiN, network manager is a program to allow you to configure the network04:24
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sethkKanRiNiN, it has nothing to do with starting the network when you boot.04:25
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sethkKanRiNiN, once the network is configured properly it will start at boot.04:25
thomascorsair: i'm certain it won't connect to a wireless network while you're wired.04:25
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mbvoI'm trying to set up a windows/linux network but sometimes i can see the computers sometimes i can't(right now i can't)04:25
KanRiNiNsethk:  I have no problem starting any network when I boot.  iwconfig and ifconfig take care of that.  I wanted a program to browse wifi signals.04:25
sethkKanRiNiN, the question now is why, when you run NetworkManager, you don't see the program on the desktop.04:25
KanRiNiNsethk: if that's not the correct program, can you recommend one04:25
KanRiNiNnice inductive reasoning04:25
KanRiNiN..04:25
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sethkKanRiNiN, network manager can be used to browse wireless networks, although it calls another program to do it.04:26
KanRiNiNbingo04:26
KanRiNiNmissing 1 essential program04:26
sethkKanRiNiN, someone, what's the name of that program to browse networks?   wifi-radar?  something like that...04:26
KanRiNiNpossibly.  but also shouldn't there be an applet for network manager?04:26
sethkKanRiNiN, yes04:26
KanRiNiNwifi rader is pretty useless04:26
corsairThomas, ok but it didnt do anythign while it was not wired either.. i had eth0 disabled and it had no options04:26
KanRiNiNI wanted to try a different program04:26
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sethkKanRiNiN, there is at least one other04:26
thomascorsair: I don't know, i have used a wireless network in ubuntu04:27
sethksomeone?  programs to browse wireless networks?04:27
thomas!wireless04:27
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:27
thomasall i can say..04:27
ubuntu_newbieim gonna switch bak to windows04:27
sethkthomas, that's a start.04:27
ubuntu_newbiethis printing problem is unreal04:27
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thomasubuntu_newbie what printer do you have?04:27
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ubuntu_newbiehp deskjet 374004:27
sethkubuntu_newbie, if it is better for you, then by all means run it.04:27
thomasubuntu_newbie: and is it on a windows computer?04:27
ubuntu_newbiethomas:yeah04:27
mbvoI'm trying to set up a windows/linux network but sometimes i can see the computers sometimes i can't(right now i can't), can someone help me?04:27
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thomasubuntu_newbie: i think you need to login using the username/password of the windows computer.04:28
ubuntu_newbiethomas: its on a windows domain controller04:28
sethkthomas, I think his problem is that samba has to authenticate with his domain server.  the printer is attached to his domain server.04:28
thomasubuntu_newbie: try that.04:28
ubuntu_newbiethomas:i did but no dice04:28
corsairubotu: btw those docs are less than useful for 431804:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about btw those docs are less than useful for 4318 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:28
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phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: Setting up printers to work with Windows domain controllers can be a pain in the ass.  But that's the fault of MS!  Anyway, it can be done.04:29
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ubuntu_newbiephiwum2: any howtos on the situation04:29
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: I've done it, but it was a while back.04:29
thomasubuntu_newbie: that frustrated me for a bit too. but when i moved my other computer over to ubuntu... i had no problems.04:29
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[WA] dlichtermancan someone please help me fix my xserver.  All I get is a black screen.  Nothing works past that.  I have tried reinstalling the xserver-xorg-core and nothing.04:29
jediborgerCan I get some help with fixing my ATI driver?04:29
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phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: I'm afraid I'm not an expert at all!04:29
corsairi have and have fresh instaled on this laptop at least 9 time tring different howtos  its feel hopless =(04:29
phiwum2jediborger: What card?04:29
thomas!ati04:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:30
jediborgerRAdeon 920004:30
ubuntu_newbiephiwum2: damn..04:30
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jediborgerI had it working with the included driver04:30
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phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: I can send you my cups config file.04:30
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ubuntu_newbiephiwum2: so you dont remember anything that you did?04:30
ubuntuthomas: I can't manage to install gnomebaker from the LiveCD04:30
jediborgerbut decided to install EasyUbuntu's driver since it said it was better04:30
thomasso reinstall the radeon driver, it might fix something.04:30
bohemian(WA)dli.. tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  ?04:30
[WA] dlichtermanwill do right now.....04:30
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: This was a Slackware box, not an Ubuntu box.04:30
[WA] dlichtermanim in recovery mode04:30
jediborgerproblem now is it's worse04:30
thomasubuntu: really. I could install software running a livecd before.04:30
ubuntu_newbieo04:30
Gevaudan82Guys, what's the name of the os-x dock like menu launcher for gnome?04:30
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[WA] dlichtermanso that means no sudo right cause im as root04:30
thomasubuntu: how much ram do you have?04:31
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: but it should be similar.04:31
jediborgerso how do I reinstall the oringinal driver?04:31
ubuntuthomas: 25604:31
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bohemianthere is no need to sudo if you are root04:31
corsairis it hard to get 2.17.xx kernel compiled in dapper cause I read that it has native support for broadcom wifi04:31
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ubuntu_newbiephiwum2: the problem is that it might have problems and considering the fact that im a n00b i wouldnt have the slightest idea of what to do lol04:31
ubuntuthomas: I think the issue might be with me not computer maybe >:P  I can't find it with a synaptic search and apt-get install gnomebaker sez it can't find it04:31
jazzrockercorsair, that comes down to "is it hard to get a kernel compiled" <- answer is no04:31
[WA] dlichtermank what should have happened, it just flashed adn then back to CLI04:32
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: I understand that.04:32
jazzrockercorsair, you won't have the ubuntu specific patches... but you can still compile just about any kernel... it has more to do with *your* hardware than ubuntu itself04:32
corsairguess ill try that.. seems like my last hope04:32
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jediborgerSo does anyone know how to reinstall the ATI driver that comes with Ubuntu?04:32
bohemian(WA)dli...  try a reboot now04:32
LOLok thomas, im in livecd04:32
jazzrockerjediborger, reinstall?04:32
thomasLOL excellent!04:32
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: But this is not a good reason to give up!  Send me an email.04:32
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ubuntuthomas: you sure gnomebaker is name of package ??04:32
[WA] dlichtermanbohemian thanks rebooting now04:32
jediborgerjazzrocker: yeah how do you?04:33
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phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: I don't know that I can help, but I'll try.  jesse@phiwumbda.org.04:33
jazzrockerjediborger, uhhh, why do you need to do that?04:33
jazzrockerjediborger, and why are you under the impression that you need to reinstall your ATI driver04:33
thoreauputic!info gnomebaker04:33
ubotugnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB04:33
ubuntu_newbiephiwum2: do you have msn messenger04:33
jediborgerbecause direct rendering doesn't work the driver Easyubuntu installed04:33
edmundo_vphiwum2, what are you trying to do?04:34
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: No.04:34
jediborgerthus my games under wine don't work anymore04:34
jazzrockerjediborger, well then you don't want a re-install you want a fresh install04:34
phiwum2edmundo_v: I'm tussling with an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M04:34
[WA] dlichtermanbohemian I owe you my life, you freaking rock, and this is why ubunutu rules.  Thanks a million04:34
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phiwum2edmundo_v: And I'm new to Ubuntu, but not new to Linux.04:34
jediborgeroh then is there a way to just fix the video driver without reinstalling ubuntu totally?04:34
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edmundo_voh, not that about the printers04:35
thomasLOL: are you with me? i'm PMing you.04:35
ubuntu_newbiephiwum2: the problem is that i cant move the printer because all the other computers on the domain already login to that printer automatcally04:35
ferossanyone know what the hotkey to hide gnome-terminal border is? looked in Keyboard shortcuts but don't see it there..04:35
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insubHow can i connect on the internets on Ubintu04:35
LOLthomas, not getting any PMs =/04:35
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phiwum2edmundo_v: It's ubuntu_newbie that's working with the printer.04:35
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sethkjediborger, yes, you can install drivers without installing the rest of the world.04:35
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thomasLOL okay, mount your partitions.04:35
sethkfeross, probably it isn't set, and you can choose any shortcut you like and configure it.04:36
skybirdwow04:36
skybirdi am here04:36
LOLone second thomas, ill try registering, maybe thats why it wont let me see the PMs04:36
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: I had to talk to a Windows printer at my last job.  Obviously I couldn't move it and I refused to use Windows.04:36
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corsairah, even better, I can just upgrade to edgy and it has the 2.17 kernal04:36
jediborgersethk: ok then can someone point me to the driver that ubuntu normally installs so i can install it?04:36
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edmundo_vubuntu_newbie, what are trying to do?04:36
phiwum2ubuntu_newbie: I'm sure there are other folks that know more than me, but I'd be willing to help.04:36
ubuntu_newbieedmundo_v the problem i have is that i cannot connect to the windows printer on my network04:36
Tylerdurdernerthomas, nevermind, it doesnt seem to want to let me do that on Gaim04:36
sethkjediborger, you said you have an ati board?04:36
vdepizzolI'm trying to install xubuntu alternate cd in a computer with 64mb of RAM. Then a message appear telling the installer is in "low memory mode" and the installer stops04:36
jediborgersethk: yes04:36
sethk!ati04:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:36
thomastyler don't use gaim.. install xchat.04:37
ubuntuvdepizzol: more RAM.  probably solved04:37
ubuntu_newbieand edmundo_v the printer is on the windows domain controller04:37
ubuntuTylerdurderner: don't use xchat, use irssi04:37
insubHow can i connect on the internets on Ubintu04:37
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vdepizzolubuntu, but the help in the installer tells 32mb of RAM04:37
edmundo_vubuntu_newbie, I have an epson Stylus CX something (in Windows XP) here and it works nice through my Ubuntu04:37
ubuntusomeone kickban insub04:37
thomasubuntu: thanks, but you know, i'm dealing with it.04:37
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infidelubuntu what's wrong with xchat?04:37
jediborgerok thanks04:37
thoreauputicvdepizzol: you might need the alternate CD for a 64MB machine - the installer uses more memory on the desktop CDs04:38
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ubuntu_newbieyes but the problem is edmundo_v this is on a windows 2003 server machine04:38
Gurpartapubuntu doesnt detect my realtek rtl 8139D *PCI* ethernet card. any other similar issues? any references? please help me soon04:38
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insububuntu, stfu useless failed abortion04:38
ubuntuubuntu_newbie: hmmm?04:38
Crippy-Boyubuntu: xchat is easier to use04:38
KeithWeissharis frozentech the only dvd vendor that is cheap04:38
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ubuntuvdepizzol: shrug.  it's not working ... so... more arm! =)04:38
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ubuntuCrippy-Boy: pssh04:38
Tylerdurdernerthomas ill be right back, ill try getting on xchat04:38
vdepizzolthoreauputic: but it's the alternate cd :P04:38
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thomasthanks tyler.04:38
ubuntu_newbieedmundo_v,sethk,phiwum2, thanks for all the help but i have to leave04:38
sethkGurpartap, that's very odd; it's a very popular card.04:38
thomasi know xchat works. i have no idea about irssi.04:38
Crippy-Boyubuntu: I never said i use xchat (im using bitchx) just that for most itd be easier to use :-)04:39
Neo8750irssi > *04:39
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ubuntuinsub: please adhere to TOC04:39
Neo8750thomas: whats wrong with irssi04:39
Gurpartapsethk: some specs ->04:39
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thoreauputicvdepizzol: ah - well in that case I don't know: have you tried doing a "server" install then doing " sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ?04:39
thomasi don't know, but i'm helping tyler, i want him using xchat because i know how to use that.04:39
phiwum2eyequeue: Got a moment?04:39
thoreauputicvdepizzol: type server at the prompt..04:39
Crippy-BoyNeo8750: Its not exactly the easiest client to use :-)04:39
eyequeuephiwum2, okay04:40
synchkHello, I'm having some issues with NTP.04:40
mymy_anychance to see blender 2.42 in edgy ?04:40
vdepizzolthoreauputic: my network card doesn't work on ubuntu, so I don't have internet access on it04:40
thomasthanks, but if you guys want to finish off helping tyler put his /etc/ folder back in the right place, by all means go ahead. if not, leave me alone with him please. we don't need 50 people telling him what irc program to use.04:40
KeithWeissharshould i order the ubuntu 6.04.1 dvd or wait fro ubuntu 6.1004:40
Neo8750Crippy-Boy: much easier then bitchx04:40
sethkGurpartap, you did a standard install and it did not find the card?04:40
Gurpartapmobo: intel 810i, processor: 997MHz p III, 256MB ram04:40
synchkWhenever I update, the time is always wrong.04:40
thoreauputicvdepizzol: hmmm :(04:40
eyequeue!info blender edgy04:40
ubotublender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 4797 kB, installed size 12744 kB04:40
phiwum2eyequeue: I'm supposed to revert to version 8.24.8 of the fglrx driver, but I don't see it.04:40
Gurpartapsethk: standard install04:40
sethkGurpartap, do    lspci     see if the card shows up in the list04:40
eyequeuemymy_, no04:40
PhuzionAlright, I'm seriously pissed off now, I can't figure out how to get apt working04:40
Gurpartapok04:40
synchk 8 Sep 22:39:41 ntpdate[27765] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset 0.022075 sec04:40
synchkIt is always .02 seconds off.04:40
eyequeue!schedule > mymy_04:40
Neo8750Phuzion: whats wrong?04:41
Crippy-BoyNeo8750, Maybe so but he's helping the guy so he chose an easy to use client that he's familiar with :-)04:41
thoreauputicvdepizzol: you should still be able to apt-get xubuntu-desktop from the Cd itself04:41
phiwum2eyequeue: I'm looking at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide04:41
fatbrainHello, I have a 5-button mouse, is there a way I can get Ubuntu to recognize is?04:41
thoreauputicvdepizzol: the packages are there on th alternate CD04:41
phiwum2eyequeue: And maybe that version works better for my card.04:41
PhuzionNeo8750:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22973 when I do apt-get update04:41
melonis xmms already in the latest desktop release of ubuntu?04:41
Phuzioni mean04:41
eyequeuephiwum2, fglrx is not within my experience04:41
Phuzionapt-cache search (anything_04:41
phiwum2eyequeue: Okay, thanks.04:41
sethksynchk, the time resolution is larger than .02, so that means nothing04:41
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vdepizzolthoreauputic: and to install the cd, how I do? apt-cdrom?04:41
eyequeuephiwum2, perhaps google fglrx and the version number and .deb?04:42
mtholdensshowcome when i follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  to install xgl and compiz it doesnt work but when i follow this  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222034   it works...04:42
vdepizzolthoreauputic: *install the packages of the cd04:42
thoreauputicvdepizzol: it should be added to the /etc/apt/sources.list I think - but yes, apt-cdrom add should also work04:42
edmundo_vfatbrain, xorg has some options to set buttons and map them04:42
thomasor maybe.. search fglrx in synaptic... its in there.04:42
Tylerdurdener!nick04:42
eyequeue!xgl > mtholdenss04:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:42
thomastyler04:42
fatbrainedmundo_v: thanks04:42
thomastyler are you in xchat?04:42
vdepizzolthoreauputic: very thank you. I'm going todo this now04:42
Tylerdurdenerthomas yup04:43
thomask04:43
edmundo_vI used it to switch buttons in my one finger strange mouse04:43
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thomasyou see my pms them04:43
thomasthen*04:43
thoreauputicvdepizzol: note that 64MB is really close to the bare minimum - it will be slow I suspect04:43
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Tylerdurdenernot yet.. im pretty sure i have to register my nickname first, i forgot the command, i thought it was /nickserv register but it doesnt work04:43
vdepizzolthoreauputic: i know :P04:43
synchksethk: what? I just want a time that is perfectly right.04:43
thomastyler its /nick -- your name04:43
thoreauputicvdepizzol: if you can put in more ram, do so :)04:43
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vdepizzolthoreauputic: also didn't work the server instalation04:44
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thoreauputicvdepizzol: define "didn't work"04:44
maple1dear aunt, let's set double the killer delete select all04:44
Phuzionbrb, any messages to me, please send them in PM04:44
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Crippy-Boyits /msg nickserv register <pass>04:44
thoreauputic!doesn't work04:44
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.04:44
Tylerdurdenerthomas /nick just changes my nickname04:44
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Crippy-BoyTylerdurdener: /msg nickserv register <pass>04:44
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mymy_!schedule04:45
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:45
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phiwum2eyequeue: Thanks again for the suggestion.  I didn't find a .deb, but I found the driver for that version.04:45
wthww04:45
eyequeuephiwum2, cool04:45
vdepizzolthoreauputic: it didn't work like my last try to install xubuntu: I defined the language, the keyboard layout, then the instalation setup some modules and the screen got blue04:45
TylerdurdenerCrippy-Boy, doesnt look like its working :(04:45
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thoreauputicvdepizzol: have you tried asking in #xubuntu ?04:46
Crippy-BoyTylerdurdener: Well try /msg nickserv identify <pass> and see what it says, You might have registered.04:46
sethksynchk, there is no such thing04:46
vdepizzolthoreauputic: the problem isn't with xubuntu, is with the alternate instalation04:46
sethksynchk, any machine as a maximum resolution it can deal with.04:47
zebedeewhere would one be able to get an existing valid source tarball pls  re trying to makefile for rtl8180l w/lan ? Thanks :-)04:47
Neo8750Phuzion: it may just be the mirror near you is down04:47
sethksynchk, after all, it has a clock.  the shortest time interval it can measure is limited by the clock speed04:47
Neo8750try again later04:47
thoreauputicvdepizzol: have you been able to install linux on this machine before?04:47
sethksynchk, plus, the NTP protocol does not correct the time to .0204:47
synchksethk: My clock speed is 3.8ghz.04:47
TylerdurdenerCrippy-Boy it goes through but i dont get any input other than what i pmed it04:47
synchksethk: This is much higer than .02s.04:47
Phuzionback04:47
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sethksynchk, indeed, I was just using that as an illustration04:48
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sethksynchk, however, there is nothing that the machine can do in a single clock tick04:48
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PhuzionSo, can someone help me out with my problem with apt?04:48
synchksethk: Wrong. Else the machine would never get a single thing done.04:48
sethksynchk, really?  how do you figure that?  :)04:48
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synchksethk: If it doesn't get anything done in a single cycle, it gets nothing done in the second, or the third, or the nth.04:49
sethksynchk, nonsense04:49
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sethksynchk, I'll give you an example04:49
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adamwoot! the ubuntu install worked, and im now a user!04:49
synchksethk: Partial work _must_ be done in a single cycle, else no work would ever be done.04:49
Phuzionsynchk:  I think he was implying entire tasks, such as calculations04:49
Tylerdurdenerthomas are you still here?04:50
sethksynchk, it wants to read a byte from the memory.  when the clock is low, it sets up the address.  when the clock goes high, the memory controller grabs the address.04:50
abowelcome, adam!04:50
sethksynchk, while the clock is still high, the memory controller pulls down a line to the cpu that tells the cpu to wait04:50
zebedeeadam:enjoy04:50
adamyou bet!04:50
eyequeuecongrats adam04:50
aboadam, it's a very good feeling, isnt's it!04:50
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synchksethk: So it's still getting things done in a single cycle..04:50
Nox2k3Hey I'm trying to get DRI to work with the open source Radeon driver on a 200M. The kernel says the driver loaded but I get no device nodes in /dev/drm and X complains about not being able to open the device nodes that don't exist.04:50
sethksynak, when the clock goes low, the memory controller shifts part of the address to the memory address bus.04:50
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sethksynak, the memory controller then waits a preset number of clock ticks, typically three, to allow the address bus to settle.04:51
PhuzionNeo8750:  I have tried a few mirrors04:51
PhuzionAnd other people have verified that they work04:51
adamwell, in the past 6 hours, i think i have learned the equivelant of my extensive knowledge of HTML. its a mind boggling experience, and i have so much more ahead of me04:51
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sethksynchk, after the settling time, the memory controller drives a line to the memory itself, telling the memory to grab the address.04:51
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synchksethk: Work is still done in a single cycle.04:52
sethksynchk, I could go on, but you get the idea.  Nothing happens in less than about 20 clock ticks, and most things take much much longer.04:52
Nox2k3I'm using 2.6.15-26-k7 and ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (1002:5955)04:52
sethksynchk, not from the perspective of the processor.  and not for the purposes of this discussion, which is to think about the resolution that the processor is capable of detecting when synchronizing the time.04:52
Tylerdurdenerthomas, do you have aim i could talk to you with?04:52
vdepizzolthoreauputic: I started the old ubuntu on this 64mb ram computer, and typed apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. It's working! :P then I can use apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?04:52
sethksynchk, NTP is extremely complicated, and is actually a marvel, but it has limits.04:53
zebedeeadam:yep but so few crashes04:53
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sethksynchk, because it uses the public internet and nothing on the 'net can be guaranteed, in terms of the time between sending and receiving a packet.04:53
synchksethk: All modern processors are fully capable of handling .02s of time resolution. It is Ubuntu's failure of a NTP implementation which is at fault.04:53
vdepizzolthoreauputic: sorry for my bad english :S04:53
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thoreauputicvdepizzol: that won't remove gnome - it's a meta-package only04:53
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carlocan anyone help me to understand this error: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/libbind9-0_9.3.2-2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb04:53
carlo  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)04:53
thomas_tyler?04:53
thoreauputicvdepizzol: but installing xubuntu-desktop at least fives you xfce4 :)04:53
synchksethk: There is no logical reason that my clock should be constantly .02s seconds off.04:53
thomas_sorry i think i dropped.04:54
thoreauputic* gives04:54
thoreauputicsynchk: why are you worried about a .02 sec inaccuracy?04:54
mtholdenssget it synced with a server...04:55
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thomas_as long as one second is actually equal to one second. all that matters04:55
synchkthoreauputic: I am a power user and run tasks which demand scientific accuracy. I also do not like unsync'd clocks.04:55
Phuzionmtholdness:  he does sync it with a server04:55
Tylerdurdernerthomas_ did you get the whisper?04:55
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thoreauputiccarlo apparently apt thinks your repos are on your machine ( 127.0.0.1 )04:55
mtholdenssoh try diff servers then04:55
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thoreauputicsynchk: ntp not working for you ?04:56
thomas_tyler yeah04:56
thomas_you get mine?04:56
vdepizzolthoreauputic: :).. so, then I can't remove gnome?04:56
mtholdensshow do u know if ntp is working?04:56
Tylerdurdernernope, weird04:56
Tylerdurdernerdo you have aim thomas_?04:56
bohemianAnyone here had any issues with wine after updating to dapper from breezy? I have found the window behaviour quite strange04:56
abohow can I install xubuntu?04:56
thomas_mtholdness if you set it to periodically update, it does. every boot, and every so often in between.04:57
mtholdensshow can i updrade to edgy betas?04:57
thomas_tyler yeah04:57
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thoreauputicvdepizzol: you can, but it's a bit involved - look at deborphan and debfoster packages04:57
mtholdenssupgrade*04:57
Tylerdurdernerabo you can do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:57
Tylerdurderneri believe abo04:57
bohemianabo  open synaptic and search for xubuntu04:57
synchkthoreauputic:  8 Sep 22:57:19 ntpdate[28667] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset -0.010738 sec04:57
thomas_tyler what's your aim?04:57
abook thanx04:57
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Tylerdurdernerthomas_, msg me on hackershocker04:57
bohemianmark it for installation and aplpy04:57
bohemianapply04:57
mtholdenssedgy install?04:57
carlothoreauputic any suggestions as to how this happened or how to fix?04:57
synchkthoreauputic: Ubuntu's NTP seems to be innaccurate to +/-.02 seconds.04:58
thoreauputicsynchk: OK - I missed your earlier posts, but evidently ntp is working04:58
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thomas_tyler add me?04:58
Tylerdurdernerone second thomas_, figuring something out04:58
thomas_are you using a time server near you?04:58
dicesquirrelQuestion... I've created a small partition for Windows on my Ubuntu laptop, and installed Windows (it previously only had Ubuntu on it) and now grub doesn't seem to be installed. How can I install grub so that I can choose between Ubuntu and Windows XP when starting up?04:58
thoreauputicsynchk: there are heaps of servers out there to synch with - I assume you've already tried ?04:58
synchkthoreauputic: No, it is innacurate.04:58
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detectiveinspektI have install beagle and beagled seems to be running but beagle can't find anything at all04:59
synchkthoreauputic: Yes.04:59
Nox2k3Does the Radeon DRM driver say anything spacific if it finds and initializes a radeon card. Mine is simply saying DRM loaded but I don't see any device files in /dev/dri.04:59
basbryandicesquirrel: reinstall grub04:59
dicesquirrelbasbryan, that's what I'm trying to do. -How-?04:59
thomas_Nox2k3: do aticonfig04:59
thoreauputicsynchk: isn't it possible that your machine's clock is drifting ?04:59
basbryanboot from cd in repair mode and grub install04:59
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synchkthoreauputic: NTP should account for this, +/-.02s is unacceptable.05:00
Nox2k3thomas_: I thought aticonfig was an fglrx thing, I don't have it installed. The problem is that I don't have any /dev/dri device nodes.05:00
dicesquirrelbasbryan, that's it, just "grub install" in the console?05:00
basbryandicesquirrel: i think so...  anyone have more to add?05:00
synchkthoreauputic: Other OSes with NTP seem to deal with this fine. I don't see what option Ubuntu disabled.05:00
thoreauputicsynchk: well, I'm no expert - maybe you should look for a mailing list about the ntp program ?05:00
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synchkA .02s inaccuracy in my clock basically makes my computer unusable.05:01
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dicesquirrelbasbryan, on the livecd I only get a few options, none of which are "recovery mode" as you say05:01
Tylerdurdernerthomas_ ok i got it, im online now05:01
Crippy-Boysynchk: how exactly does .02s make it unusable?05:01
basbryanuse back to get to menu05:01
thomas_.2 seconds is nothing.05:01
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basbryanthen choose grub choice?05:01
thoreauputicsynchk: I'm not sure what you expect us to do about this - I suggest a bug report if you think it's a bug05:01
basbryani know u need grub...  that's all05:02
basbryani don't recall best way to get there05:02
synchkCrippy-Boy: I am a power user, and need critical time accuracy. I have specialized computing equipment to keep my hardware clock very accurate.05:02
synchkthomas_: Perhaps .2s is nothing to you.05:02
basbryanu don't need a reinstall05:02
thoreauputicI always think the term "power user" is so pretentious..05:02
Neo8750i wish people would make a script to check for all dependencies when installing multi[ple things from source05:02
hondjeI think anyone who uses a computer is using power.05:02
basbryandicesquirrel: 4 future reference...  install windows 1st...  then linux05:02
synchkthoreauputic: Maybe you aren't a power user then...05:02
KeithWeissharcan paper cd sleeves scratch the cd05:02
Neo8750at the start (this is not packages)05:02
dicesquirrelbasbryan, I realize that, and that's the last thing I want. And I can't change what order I've done this in.05:03
bohemianI would have thought latency between you and the ntp servers would introduce more than a 0,02 second inaccuracy05:03
Phuzionhondje:  I laughed05:03
thoreauputicsynchk: bah - i'm not talking about the level of use, just the terminology05:03
hondjeThen I succeeded :D05:03
dicesquirrelDoes anyone have any more specific advice on how I should reinstall grub using the LiveCD?05:03
synchkbohemian: No, NTP accounts for this lag.05:03
basbryandicesquirrel: so from install cd...  u go back, to get to menu...  can u do grub from there?05:03
thoreauputicsynchk: it's not a criticism of you05:03
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zebedeehondje twice lol05:04
synchkthoreauputic: I am proud to call myself a power user.05:04
treitterI love the new Edgy login music :)05:04
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bohemianWhat is a power user synchk?05:04
hondje:-)05:04
thoreauputicsynchk: and what does that actually mean?05:04
dicesquirrelbasbryan, not so far as I can tell. The options: "Start or install Ubuntu" "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode" "Check CD for defects" "Memory test" "Boot from first hard disk"05:04
thoreauputicsynchk: everything is relative...05:04
KeithWeissharshould i wait for edgy to come out before ordering the dvd from frozentech.com05:04
synchkbohemian: A user who pushes the limits of his system; a user who cares about accuracy, speed, and reliability.05:04
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basbryandicesquirrel: go farther into install dialogue methinks?05:04
mikeneed soem help configuring a gdesklet please!!!05:05
hondjeA user who goes where no user has gone before!05:05
KeithWeissharfrozentech discs are $1.99 plus $0.49 shipping05:05
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scooby_gangBye05:05
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Crippy-Boysynchk: What exactly do you need to do that .02s is so critical?05:05
dicesquirrelAnyone else?05:05
carloanyone able to help me with this repository issue? "  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"05:05
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synchkCrippy-Boy: Accurate benchmarks.05:06
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Phuzionsynchk:  can't you just do some kind of offset?05:06
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synchkPhuzion: No, there is a .04s spread, that's not possible.05:06
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thoreauputiccarlo do you have a proxy set ?05:06
mikehelp with a gdesklet desklet please05:06
Schalkenis ti safe to upgrade to edgy yet?05:07
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JoseStefanno05:07
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carlothoreauputic not unless one was set by default.05:07
eyequeueSchalken, #ubuntu+1 says no05:07
thoreauputicSchalken: if you have to ask, probably not ;)05:07
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PhuzionAlright, so anyone here an expert at apt by chance?05:07
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Schalkenby 'safe' i mean my computer will still boot ;)05:07
Neo8750damn install thing has said 30minutes for last 30 minutes05:07
mikehelp with gnome bar gdesklet please05:07
graftPhuzion: what's the q?05:07
thoreauputicmike: be specific05:08
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Phuzionhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22973 when i do apt-cache search (anything)05:08
hondjeIf I were a power user bugged by .02s, I'd have said kerberos...but I'm an old fashioned troll :)05:08
mikethoreauputic:  well if you have ever seen the gnome bar gdesklet i am having trouble changing the launchers05:08
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ikarugaI had a power outage. When I rebooted, apache2 stopped working. Any ideas?05:08
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JoseStefanPhuzion, are you on 5.10 ?05:08
graftikaruga: cause another power outage05:09
LilandraHi JoseStefan05:09
thoreauputicikaruga:  fsck ? Check the file system05:09
mikethoreauputic:  all th elaunchers are filled outin this stile: launch('firefox')05:09
JoseStefanHi Lilandra05:09
dicesquirrelCan anyone help me reinstall grub after an installation of Windows XP on a partition of a previously all-Ubuntu machine?05:09
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PhuzionJoseStefan:  Umm, not sure, how do I check?05:09
mikethoreauputic:  but i want to change it to a path to launch firefox 2 beta05:09
LilandraJoseStefan: ubuntu live caused kernel panic too! :)05:09
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thoreauputicmike: sorry I don't personally know anything about gdesklets - address your questions to the channel in general05:09
mikethoreauputic:  any ideas?05:09
carlothoreauputic there is no proxy set. It is set to connect directly.05:09
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Smoked1I am backing up my files right now so that i can replace windows with ubuntu right now. :)05:09
mikethoreauputic:  what channel shoudl i go to?05:10
mikethoreauputic:  never mind05:10
ikarugathoreauputic: so boot up in recovery mode?05:10
JoseStefanLilandra, posible a hardware issue, bad or misconfigured. Or ubuntu doesnt like your hardware05:10
LilandraJoseStefan: possibly05:10
mikehelp with configuring starters on a launche rplease!!!!!!!05:10
Neo8750dicesquirrel: boot off any linux rescue cd and reinstall grub to the mbr05:10
thoreauputiccarlo it's a mystery then - it is clearly looking at your box and not the Net05:10
JoseStefanPhuzion, i dont remember :/05:10
zebedeesmoked1:enjoy the ride05:10
Phuzionbrb, I'll check and see if I can figure it out at the machine05:10
Smoked1I need to know if there is a way durring install to specify slixes instead of everything going to "/"05:10
dicesquirrelNeo8750: How? I don't understand.05:10
LilandraJoseStefan, I can switch the harddrive (or take it out completely), I can also take out the agp video card05:10
Smoked1slices05:11
zebedeepass05:11
mikehelp with gdesklets please05:11
Neo8750dicesquirrel: thats good question to be honest i couldn't tell ya without looking it up05:11
thoreauputicikaruga: yes, or run  sudo shutdown -r -F now ( I think F forces a check - have a look in man shutdown)05:11
carlothoreauputic a mystery with no solution? I find that hard to believe. Thanks for the words of help.05:11
JoseStefanLilandra, you could try with minimum hardware, in other word, remove non essential addon cards05:11
Smoked1last time I tried it there were no options for that and it bugs05:11
realistsynchk: How exactly did you determine your clock is inaccurate by 0.02s, and with what clock reference are you using for comparison?05:11
synchkrealist: NTP.05:11
JoseStefanLilandra, then add each one at a time05:11
Lilandraok JoseStefan05:11
thoreauputiccarlo of course there's a solution - I just don't know what it is :)05:11
dicesquirrelNeo8750: Could you?05:11
mikeany help with configuring launchers on a gdesklet bar05:12
synchkntpdate[27765] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset 0.022075 sec05:12
LilandraI'll put it on and try it again in a bit05:12
Smeggyanyone know if its possible to embed php inside a bash script?05:12
hondjecount tics instead when benchmarking05:12
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Smeggyfull on php.. not just a line or two...05:12
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carloWell I'm off to find it. See you all around again.05:12
JoseStefanrealist, ntp.ubuntu.com is one05:12
tanathcan anyone help me with this error? it's not recognizing a blank cd: http://pastebin.ca/16487705:12
mikehelp with gdesklets05:12
PhuzionJoseStefan:  Yes, I am on 5.1005:13
elhaxxorzCan someone help me? Firefox, Galeon, and Swiftfox are all crashing on the same sites! No idea what's going on, think it is Flash05:13
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hondjeelhaxxorz: link to the site?05:13
JoseStefanPhuzion, try: sudo apt-get update05:13
elhaxxorzhondje, www.yahoo.com05:13
hondjeeeks05:13
Phuzionlocked05:13
realistsynchk: either your local and/or reference hardware clocks could be drifting, and just how accurately do you think NTP measures network delay, and jitter?05:14
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JoseStefanPhuzion, do you have another package manager running?05:14
PhuzionWait05:14
PhuzionI got the lock to disappear05:14
thetictacaddictwhen I first installed ubuntu, there was a symlink in my home directory to some media samples.  I deleted the link; can anyone tell me where those files are?05:14
elhaxxorzhondje, worked on Breezy,05:14
PhuzionBut it stalls at 44% of the first one05:14
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hondjeelhaxxorz: If yahoo is crashing all your browsers, then you're probably right and it's one of your plugins that are shared05:15
Phuzion44% [Connecting to uk.archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.23)]  [Connecting to securi05:15
Phuzionstalled there05:15
JoseStefanthetictacaddict:  Examples -> /usr/share/example-content05:15
elhaxxorzthey are all firefox derivatives05:15
Neo8750dicesquirrel: http://sidvind.com/wiki/HOWTO_Restore_GRUB_after_Windows_XP_installation-cd05:15
thetictacaddictthanks!05:15
elhaxxorzdo you have the opera repo?05:15
JoseStefanPhuzion, give it a min :P05:15
JoseStefanPhuzion: btw, that's your closest mirror, right?05:16
hondjeI doubt the problem is gekko, and no one else is having trouble with yahoo :-)05:16
PhuzionJoseStefan:  timed out, and it's not the closest05:16
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PhuzionBut the us mirror does the same thing05:16
JoseStefanPhuzion, try main mirror05:16
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Phuzionus.ubuntu.whatever?05:17
mikehelp me please with a gdesklet?05:17
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JoseStefanPhuzion, you could try "us.", main one doesnt have a prefix05:17
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Dr_Willis'help me ObiWan, you're my only hope'05:17
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Neo8750,,,,05:18
JoseStefanDr_Willis?05:18
QMarioWhat happened here?05:18
QMarioAn attack?05:18
Dr_Willis:)05:18
JoseStefandid you do that?05:18
Dr_WillisQMario,  where?05:18
zebedeehello05:18
QMarioMe?05:18
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Neo8750hope not that suck05:18
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QMarioI did not do that.05:18
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richardsudo get install rails --include-dependencies05:19
richarddoesnt work05:19
PhuzionChannel join attack, someone tried to de-sync one of the servers05:19
PhuzionDidn't work05:19
Phuzionlol05:19
richardsudo gem install rails --include-dependencies05:19
JoseStefannevermind05:19
richarddoenst work05:19
Dr_WillisI got joins/parts/quits  hidden.05:19
richardany know why05:19
Neo8750sudo apt-get install rails ???05:19
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JoseStefanchannel join flood stopped working like 10 years ago05:19
SkramXhi, ATravelingGeek05:19
ATravelingGeekhey SkramX05:19
SkramXit's Office Feel Good to you, son.05:20
mikehelp with gnome bar please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:20
PhuzionAlright, apt STILL stalls at 44%05:20
richardE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:20
richardE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:20
SkramXHOW DO I INSTALL LINUX?05:20
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thoreauputic!install05:20
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:20
PhuzionSkramX:  Don't shout05:21
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Dr_WillisHe dont want Ubuntu! he wants "linux" :P05:21
thoreauputicPhuzion: he left...05:21
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elhaxxorzhondje, can you help any more?05:21
Phuzionthoreauputic:  lol, didn't see that05:21
hondjeelhaxxorz: No, only recommendation I have is to reinstall all your shared plugins05:21
elhaxxorzhow would i do that?05:21
thoreauputicrichard: close synaptic or whatever other apt instance you have running05:22
Crippy-BoyDr_Willis: in that case... www.linuxfromscratch.org :P05:22
richardsudo apt-get rails05:22
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richardE: Invalid operation rails05:22
thoreauputicrichard: syntac error05:22
hondjeapt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree etc05:22
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Dr_Willisrichard,  time to read a few apt-get tutorials dude.05:23
thoreauputicrichard: sudo apt-get install <package>05:23
Pelohey guys05:23
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mikecan anyon ehelp me?05:23
Dr_Willis!ask05:23
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:23
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richardthe guide im reading says this05:24
richard sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies05:24
thoreauputicmike: if anyone can help they will - you need to give people more information, and also be patient05:24
bohemiansynchk, read rfc1305.05:24
thoreauputic!patience05:24
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:24
richardsudo: gem: command not found05:24
Dr_Willisgem? thats a new one on me.05:24
Pelo a friend of mine  just manage to screw up is gnome installation and he's booting in CLI ,  anyone know the command line to install gnome back, with the right pacakge ?  sudo apt-get instal ??????05:24
CorpseFeederis there anyone in here yet who has the slightest clue about how to get a RT61 chipset wireless card to work in ubuntu using WPA-PSK?05:24
Dr_Willisrichard,  i think you may want to find a better guide.05:24
eyequeuePelo, ubuntu-desktop05:24
thoreauputicPelo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:24
Dr_Willisgem maybe some ruby command.,05:24
richardhttp://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake05:24
Pelothanks eyequeue  and thoreauputic05:25
thoreauputic!anyone05:25
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:25
bohemiansudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop05:25
thoreauputicbohemian: wrong05:25
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Crippy-Boygem is a ruby package manager05:25
sethkreinstall is a flag, not a command05:25
thoreauputicbohemian: it would be apt-get install --reinstall05:25
sethkapt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop05:25
bohemianta05:25
Pelothanks bohemian05:25
sethkthoreauputic, damn, late again.  :)05:25
richardim stuck guys05:26
thoreauputicsethk: :)05:26
sethkrichard, would you like us to recommend a lubricant, or do you have a more specific question?05:26
Pelohe's gonna freak, I just gave him all 3 comman lines05:26
richard sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies05:26
richarddoesnt work05:26
richardstep 5 on that url above05:27
JoseStefangem?05:27
richardhttp://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake05:27
richardstep 505:27
richardany ideas05:27
richard?05:27
Dr_Willisdident we just decide that gem is some sort yf ruby tool05:27
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Dr_WillisI would gyess you Missed a step.. or the guide is stupid.05:27
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richardyeah but that doesnt help me install it05:27
PhuzionSo, can someone help me out with my apt-cache problem?05:27
Phuzion44% [Connecting to uk.archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.23)]  [Connecting to securi05:27
Dr_Willisor your paths dont include gem for some reason05:27
Phuzionit always stalls when running apt-get update05:27
JoseStefanPhuzion: use archive.ubuntu.com05:28
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PhuzionI did05:28
Dr_Williswillis@amd64:~$ gem05:28
Dr_Willisbash: gem: command not found05:28
PhuzionStill stalled05:28
JoseStefanPhuzion: i still see uk.05:28
sethkDr_Willis, or both05:28
richardso how do i install it!!!05:28
PhuzionI pasted the wrong thing05:28
CorpseFeederi need someone with experience setting up RT61 wireless card to work with WPA-PSK. How do I get this thing work?05:28
sethkrichard, what's the error, exactly?05:28
PhuzionI thought my pastebin was still in my clipboard05:28
Dr_Willisrichard,  how about starting from the beginning wht What are you trying to isntall?05:29
sethkPhuzion, if you were using kde, it would be05:29
richardsudo gem install rails --include-dependencies05:29
richardsudo: gem: command not found05:29
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richardhttp://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake05:29
Phuzionsethk:  I'm using my Windows machine right now, I don't have a multiple clipboard05:29
richardI cant do step 505:29
Crippy-Boyrichard: sudo apt-get install rails05:29
richardtried that05:30
Crippy-Boyrichard: you have ruby installed, right?05:30
richardoh it worked this time05:30
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adcuritnhello05:30
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zebedeehi05:30
Crippy-Boy~Lol05:30
Dr_Williswere you using th correct command the other times? :P05:31
adcuritnI was wondering if I could get some help with a serial console05:31
JoseStefan!info rails05:31
uboturails: MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 1723 kB, installed size 12820 kB05:31
richardlol05:31
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richardwell i am a noob05:31
richardonly had linux ubuntu for 4 weeks05:31
richardfirst linux distro05:31
richardex windows05:31
Dr_WillisLinux tip #1 - when in doubt  *THINK*05:31
Dr_Willis:P05:31
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Crippy-Boyrichard: Well, if it says command not found, Your doing something wrong, or dont have something installed.05:32
Crippy-BoyDr_Willis: That doesnt work.05:32
richardwe noobs rely on guides ..... and when the guides dont work :(05:32
PhuzionAlright, can someone help me out here, because honestly, I don't want to have to flatten and re-install, this isn't Windows05:32
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Dr_WillisCrippy-Boy,  Tip #2 - see Rule #1 :P05:32
adcuritnWhat types of options of consoles does getty work with? (I.e. in /etc/inittab at the end of a line for serial consoles, it has vt100. I'd like to use adm3a. is this possible?)05:32
hondjeThe guide worked, you ignored it and tried to run gem without installing ruby05:32
CorpseFeederis there noone here who can help setup RT61 chipset wireless cards?05:32
mikeneed help quick cant launch any programs05:33
JoseStefanrichard, you can find most of the stuff you'd want to install in synaptic05:33
Crippy-BoyWhen in doubt, Kick the computer bang your head off a wall, Sleep on it then realise the answer was right infront of you but you were to stupid to realise05:33
hondjemike: Why can't you launch any programs?05:33
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caminomasterHeLp me with a MIDI problem05:33
Crippy-BoyFailing that a 5 min break away from the computer helps :-)05:33
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adcuritncan getty work with consoles emulating adm3a?05:34
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JoseStefanPhuzion, put your sources.list on the !pastebin05:34
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Smoked1So.. Does ubuntu give me any options to use slices durring the install?05:34
Dr_Williscaminomaster,  care to give a little more details.05:34
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sewoanyone running ubuntu in a sony vaio?05:34
Crippy-BoySmoked1: You mean to put /home on seperate partitions etc?05:35
Dr_Willissewo,  theres a lot of difffent vaios05:35
hondjeadcuritn: as long as /bin/login doesn't care05:35
realist!anyone05:35
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:35
cvti'm on a 800mHz 128mB ram 1mB vid ram dell box05:35
Smoked1Crippy-Boy, yes05:35
Crippy-BoySmoked1: Yes it does.05:35
sewoDr_Willis, well yeah, but all of them have the /proc/acpi/sony issue05:35
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Smoked1OK thats great then05:35
sewoso i want to confirm a bug related to that05:35
PhuzionJoseStefan:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2297705:36
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sewoanyone?05:36
tmccraryI am trying to use Eclipse's internal web browser with ubuntu dapper, but I can't seem to find libswt-mozilla*.so for it anywhere.05:36
tmccraryDoes this library even exist?05:36
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Smoked1I think ubuntu and my laptop are going to have a great tinme05:36
Smoked1time05:36
zebedeeyep05:36
Crippy-BoySmoked1: Well me and mine are :-)05:36
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mikehondje: ok u know the menue bar right?05:36
hondjemike: the panel on top with the menus? Yes05:37
Smoked1How is ubuntu server version? I usually use freebsd but I have used debian and loved it05:37
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Smoked1ubuntu server version must be great05:37
JoseStefanPhuzion, looks good to me :(05:37
mikehondje:  well when i click the applications drop down it is flashing and i cant open any of the things in therre05:37
PhuzionEhh05:37
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adcuritnis it possible to set serial console to use only black and white and not colored fonts?05:37
JoseStefanPhuzion, i was hoping to find the solution there05:37
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PhuzionYeah05:37
hondjemike: flashing, like it's redrawing?05:37
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caminomasterDr_Willis, :/05:37
PhuzionI was hoping to god it was there05:37
PhuzionBUT NOOOO05:37
tmccraryAny 64-bit ubuntu eclipse users here?05:38
mikehondje: but the otehr drop downs like "places" and "system" work fine05:38
Atomsk!grub > Atomsk05:38
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JoseStefanPhuzion, restart and then do sudo apt-get update right away, maybe05:38
micah_hainlinew00t!  I finally got irc working.05:38
caminomasterDr_Willis, my problem is that I don't know why05:38
PhuzionJoseStefan:  Tried it05:38
hondjehmm05:38
PhuzionNothing worked05:38
Crippy-BoySmoked1: Im not sure, I use server version to install (but only do a basic install not LAMP) and the only server i have is a naff box with sshd running for when im using hotspots and wanna tunnel.05:38
mikehondje:  i am not sure what u mean by re-drawing but its like blink fast05:38
Dr_Willisadcuritn,  the 'color' is most likely comming from the ls colloring of the files.. that is disableable.05:38
Crippy-BoyAnd that runs debian.05:38
brian98well feck that05:38
caminomasterbut my midis sometimes sounds ok, but sometimes don't sound05:38
brian98nvidia definitely seems more stable than ati!05:38
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caminomasterthe sequencer moves, but is mute05:39
brian98but it's configuration is up its arse05:39
mikehondje: any ideas?05:39
JoseStefanPhuzion, could it be something wrong with your network setup?05:39
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micah_hainlineHey fellas.  I'm here hoping that someone will be able to help me get my sound working in Ubuntu 6.0605:39
dragonguyHello, good weekend, who would like help me with my problem. my ubuntu says ACPI Unable to locate RSDP when boot05:39
mikemy aplications drop down is blinking fast and i cant select anythign, anyone know how to fix it?05:39
PhuzionJoseStefan:  I'm fully capable of downloading entire files from all the sites I try05:39
hondjetmccrary: it's in libswt3.1-gtk-jni05:39
Tylerdurdernerwhat is the livecd root password?05:39
hondjemike: This is the gnome panel and not something else, right?05:39
hondjenot gdesklets or something?05:40
Smoked1Wow this channel is way better than the freebsd channel05:40
PhuzionLivecd's root account is disabled, there is no root password05:40
Dr_WillisTylerdurdener,  there is none..05:40
Crippy-BoyI think you have to enable root05:40
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thoreauputicTylerdurdener: there isn't one05:40
adcuritnDr_Willis, how can I disable this, I'm using a really old serial console and it when I Ls in ~ is shows 0m01:34Desktop0m05:40
mikehondje:  yes its in the gnome panel05:40
tmccraryhondje: you RULE, thank you! I say that lib but didn't make the connection! Awesome!05:40
JoseStefanPhuzion, you can still use sudo05:40
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thoreauputicTylerdurdener: just do sudo <command>05:40
Dr_Willisadcuritn,  try the ls man pages.. and notice the --nocolor option. :)05:40
hondjetmccrary: No problem :)05:40
PhuzionJoseStefan:  Hold on, something's up05:40
Smoked1Are there any options durring the install that will let me use KDE instead of gnome?05:40
Phuzionwget can't get google.com/index.html05:40
Tylerdurdernerthanks thoreaputic05:40
JoseStefanhmm05:40
thoreauputicTylerdurdener: sudo -i  for a root shell05:40
mikeSmoked1: u need to download kubuntu for kde05:41
eyequeueSmoked1, use the kubuntu cds05:41
PhuzionSmoked1:  You'll have to install the Kubuntu package after installing05:41
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micah_hainlineCan anyone even point me in the right direction?  I'm kind of lost with it.05:41
CorpseFeederD-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.05:41
hondjemike: Have you restarted X? That's a strange problem to be having, and would probably take a bit of debugging to find05:41
mikehondje:  any ideas on how to fix it?05:41
JoseStefanPhuzion, lets try to wget something on archive.ubuntu.com, i'll give you a full link05:41
Dr_Willisadcuritn,  or look at 'ls --help' at the bottom of the info05:41
Juuli really want to use a 2.6.16+ kernel but the latest in dapper is 2.6.15, is there a 2.6.16+ kernel with the dapper patches already applied out there somwhere? or can i get the dapper patchset somewhere and apply it to a vanilla linux kernel?05:41
PhuzionJoseStefan:  Mind doing this through PM?05:41
mikehondje:  how shoudl i restart x? by logging out and back in?05:41
Smoked1Thanks guys. Is it just as good as the gnome install?05:41
thoreauputicmike: that will do it, yes05:41
JoseStefanPhuzion, not registered on this side05:41
hondjemike: well, you'd have to go an extra step and ctrl-alt-backspace after you logged out05:41
eyequeueSmoked1, no05:41
JoseStefanPhuzion, you can make your own channel though05:42
PhuzionJoseStefan:  What?05:42
Smoked1Or is ubuntu primarly focused at gnome?05:42
thoreauputicmike: unless you are in a tty05:42
JoseStefanPhuzion, not register = i cant pm05:42
Dr_WillisSmoked1,  i use KDE on it.05:42
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thoreauputicSmoked1: kubuntu is good05:42
mikehondje:  whast the ctr=alt-backspace for05:42
Dr_WillisSmoked1,  and other window managers/de's as well.05:42
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bohemiankubuntu is very good05:42
Dr_WillisSmoked1,  but most of the docs/guides assume you are using gnome05:42
thoreauputicfluxbox ftw!05:43
thoreauputic:D05:43
hondjemike: that restarts X all the way, logging out just restarts gnome05:43
Crippy-BoyYep, Where fluxbuntu? :D05:43
Crippy-Boywhere's*05:43
Zanth_good day, two days ago my psu died and so I installed a new one...now, grub won't post anything but a few lines of repeating 9's05:43
Smoked1I already created the disk for ubuntu. I take it that I can use apt-get to install KDE?05:43
mikeok so right now do a ctr-alt-backspace ?05:43
sethkSmoked1, yes05:43
sethkSmoked1, that's how I do it.05:43
brian98Why don't they make video drivers easy eh?05:43
brian98eh?05:43
Smoked1then all is good and I can try both :?005:43
hondjemike: sure, if you're ready to log out05:43
Smoked1:005:43
thoreauputicSmoked1: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:43
Crippy-Boysudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop would be better05:43
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mikehondje:  what will happen after i hit those keys?05:43
Smoked1sweet05:43
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PWillhondje: it will restart x05:44
Zanth_is there an easy way to try to laod my system? perahps using a live disc like gnoppix?05:44
mikehondje:  will  i have to do naythign else?05:44
hondjemike: You'll log out, the screen will turn black, and then the login screen will appear after it restarts05:44
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PWillmike, rather05:44
Smoked1I am used to using FreeBSD and have little experince with X05:44
mikehond and then just log in as normal in the gui05:44
mikePWill: rather what?05:44
Smoked1I usually to things from an ssh command line05:44
hondjemike: Yeah...it's just a shot in the dark, but when gnome-panel starts freaking out that's what I would do.05:44
tmccraryhondje: I am using eclipse 3.2, so I need a newer version of libswt mozilla. Do you use eclipse or did you search packages?05:44
DeeahWhat is the best dapper guide for those cool affects(XGL or AIGLX?), I have an ATI Radeon 9100 card, and the free(libre) OSS driver "ati" works great for me for 3d accel stuff. What is the best guide to get that eye candy?05:45
thoreauputicgdesklets are crack anyway, IMHO05:45
PWillmike, i sent a message to hondje, instead of you. i was just saying that pressing ctrl+alt+<backspace> restarts x05:45
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hondjetmccrary: I just did a apt-file search libswt | grep moz05:45
tmccraryah, ok.05:45
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micah_hainlineSo guys, if Ubuntu doesn't recognize my sound card, am I pretty much just screwed?  Will I need to actually go buy a better supported card, or is there something I can do about it?05:46
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Crippy-BoySmoked1: what kind of apps?05:46
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thoreauputicSmoked1: ethereal ? *g*05:46
mikehondje:  that didnt do anything05:46
PWillmicah_hainline: have you looked at the wiki for support?05:46
micah_hainlineNo I haven't05:46
Dr_Willismicah_hainline,  google for your soundcard/chipset and check the alsa homepage. it may be a work in progress05:46
Smoked1Exactly, apps like nmap, ethereal05:46
Smoked1etc.05:46
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mikehelp with flashing applications drop down, i cant open any applications now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:46
thoreauputicSmoked1: all there in the repos05:47
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thoreauputic!info nmap05:47
ubotunmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.03-3 (dapper), package size 688 kB, installed size 2380 kB05:47
Smoked1Sweet05:47
thoreauputic!info ethereal05:47
ubotuethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB05:47
Gevaudan82Hello all...I was messing aroudn with gnome panels earlier and screwed a few things up...I've got the default setup back now with the menu for open programs down at the bottom as it is in the default install...however there are three dots before the first open program...how do I remove this?05:47
micah_hainlineThanks Dr Willis and PW.  Do you guys have an address for those?05:47
hondjemike: hehe, really? that's kinda funny ... okay, press alt-f2 and enter 'gksudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' and that should work (in theory)05:47
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PWillmicah_hainline: i'm cheking, hold on05:48
Crippy-BoySweet, nessus is in the repos05:48
Dr_Willismicah_hainline,  other then google.com :P no.05:48
brian98sweet jebus05:48
sethkGevaudan82, I think you can right click and delete.  I can't check though; I'm on kde05:48
shadowhywindanyone have some time to help with some ndiswrapper errors??05:48
brian98Give me strength05:48
stormchas3rHow do i get gnome updated to 2.16 with synaptic pm?05:48
PWillmicah_hainline: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems05:48
Smoked1nessus is sweet05:48
thoreauputicSmoked1: and of course tcpdump is installed by default, afaik05:48
micah_hainline:P I meant the Alsa page Willis05:48
Smoked1ice05:48
Smoked1nice05:48
micah_hainlineI found it but it's down.05:48
thoreauputicstormchas3r: in edgy05:48
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micah_hainlineSweet.  Thanks P05:49
Gevaudan82sethk: thanks, i tried that but it deletes the whole window menu...nothing in preferences either :\05:49
stormchas3rdapper05:49
sethkthoreauputic, even if it isn't, it would be installed as a dependency of ethereal05:49
thoreauputicstormchas3r: no, I mean if you want the latest gnome you need edgy05:49
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thoreauputicsethk: true05:49
shadowhywindanyone? *good with ndiswrapper*05:49
stormchas3rthoreauputic, ty for the info05:49
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Smoked1One last question before I get flamed.. Will it detect my laptop's centrino CPU and allow me to connect to my wireless network on install?05:49
sethkGevaudan82, you can search for it in files in $HOME/.gnome*   (I think it is .gnome-2, but it might be .gnome-2,  do ls -ld .gnome* to see the directory name)05:49
Schalkenis there anywhere where i can download a .deb for gimp 2.4?05:49
vicscandl! 64bit > vicscandl05:49
sethkGevaudan82, do grep -r in that directory for one of the programs on the list.  that should find the file with the bogus data.05:50
Crippy-BoySmoked1: depends on the wireless card.05:50
thoreauputicSmoked1: that depends on your chipset I guess ( I don't know )05:50
Juulwhere can i find the latest ubuntu kernel patches?05:50
Smoked1This is the only system that I have right now so I will need net access05:50
stormchas3rWhat do I need to study to pass the "Ubuntu Certified Professional" Exam?05:50
Smoked1it's the centrino05:50
sethkGevaudan82, of course, you could delete the directory, which would put you precisely where you were the first time you ran gnome05:50
Crippy-BoySmoked1: Its fine on my laptop (thinkpad) but the prism chipset works great with linux.05:50
thoreauputicSmoked1: check the laptop on the wiki05:50
zebedeesmoked1:not if its rtl8180l based05:51
thoreauputicSmoked1: there's acompatibility chart there05:51
PWillSchalken: why do you need a deb? isn't it in the repos?05:51
Smoked1I assume it's at ubuntu.com :005:51
CorpseFeederD-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.05:51
Gevaudan82sethk: all i have in ~/.gnome is a file gnome-vfs even when doing ls -la ...so your saying if i remove that file or at least move it for the time being and restart gnome things should be ago?05:51
thoreauputicSmoked1: wiki.ubuntu.com05:51
PWillSchalken: oh, 2.4. yeah, lemme check.05:51
Crippy-Boytheres always ndiswrapper05:51
Smoked1thanks, I can't wait to be rid of this windows shit05:51
zebedeehooray05:52
sethkGevaudan82, yes, but I believe there are two subdirectories related to gnome.  so do   ls -ld .gnome* and delete both (if two show up)05:52
thoreauputic!docs > Smoked105:52
Smoked1I am so tired of it\05:52
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sethkGevaudan82, if you don't mind returning to pristine05:52
Gevaudan82sethk: oops nevermind, you were right, should have done .gnome*...it's in gnome205:52
mikehondje:  that didnt work either05:52
sethkGevaudan82, ah, good.05:52
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brian98on the subjects of laptops I installed a fujitsu siemens s7010 today with ubuntu and it installed EVERYTHING05:52
zebedeeno crashes05:52
brian98no additional drivers05:52
brian98even 3d support05:52
Smoked1I swear there is no way to avoid spyware with windows!05:52
shadowhywindcan anyone help with ndiswrapper errors?05:52
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sethkbrian98, sounds good05:52
Smoked1fragmentation is a nightmware05:52
vicscandlwindows *is* spyware05:52
Crippy-BoyHey Smoked1: Just curious, What brought you to ubuntu and not one of the Desktop *BSD's if your familiar with FreeBSD?05:53
zebedeeand slow05:53
PWillSmoked1: sure there is. don't use it.05:53
PWill:-P05:53
brian98sethk: I was blown away05:53
sethkSmoked1, there is for a day or two, until somebody releases a slightly different exploit  :)05:53
thoreauputicSmoked1: you're preaching to the choir ;)05:53
brian98no config required at all!05:53
brian98I mean05:53
mikehondje:  any more ideas?05:53
sethkbrian98, I had a similar experience with a fujitsu laptop05:53
Gevaudan82sethk: just one more thing to clarify...is this going to remove all my shortcuts added in /usr/share/applications, my gdm logo, etc etc...basically anything else besides the panel?05:53
brian98you wouldn't get that with windows05:53
sethkbrian98, even configured the wireless.05:53
micah_hainlineGrr.  Alsa is down.  I guess I'll have to wait until the website comes back up again before I can trouble shoot this thing.05:53
PWillsethk: fujitsu makes lappys!?!05:53
Smoked1Crippy-Boy, I searched google and I found that it is the most compatable with laptops05:53
brian98in fact bluetooth support wouldnt work under windows05:53
sethkGevaudan82, yes.  if you don't want that, then search the files in .gnome2 and find the offending lines05:53
brian98and it does unduer ubuntu05:53
micah_hainlineThanks for the help guys, you got me on the right track I think05:53
brian98amazing05:53
Crippy-BoySmoked1: fair enough.05:53
Gevaudan82sethk: cool thanks again05:54
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Neo8750Xfce 4 Desktop Environment05:54
Neo8750version 4.3.99.1 (Xfce 4.4 RC1)05:54
Neo8750mmmmm05:54
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Crippy-BoyHeh, ive never had a prob with hardware support with laptop, but then i only have a fairly old thinkpad.05:54
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vicscandlAMD64, 120GB SATA as primary. setup stops @ 5% with an errorbox stating 'Failed to create a filesystem'05:54
Neo8750how old?05:54
vicscandlany takers?05:54
brian98sethk: but then it was reality check time when I got home, I;'ve been having a lot of crashes with my ATI card so I got a nice new Nvidia card out of stock... Installed the nvidia card and jebus05:55
DeeahI installed "stellarium" to "Applications/Education" are there any other cool adult education programs like that?05:55
mikehelp with gnome menue!!!05:55
brian98why do they make it so feckin awkward to config those drivers05:55
LilandraJoseStefan?05:55
Smoked1Crippy-Boy, also my favorite unix distro is Debian and the compatability of ubuntu mixed with the ability to use apt-get makes my loins drip05:55
Crippy-BoyNot *THAT* old but certainly not new, P3-M 1.2, 1g ram, wireless.05:55
PWillmike: what's wrong05:55
JoseStefanLilandra?05:55
LilandraJoseStefan, well i have cpu, mobo, optical drive, ram05:55
Lilandrait hasn't crashed yet but it's ... *loading* little white circle is still there05:56
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Neo8750better then my thinkpad that i;m using now05:56
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Smoked1I just hope that I don't piss off# ubuntu with all of my questions after the install :905:56
JoseStefanLilandra, give it a few minutes?05:56
Crippy-BoyNeo8750: What ya using?05:56
Lilandraalrighty! :)05:56
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vicscandlis there a chatroom specific for 64bit ubuntu?05:56
DeeahSmoked1, You won't piss off anyone, they'll just ignore you.05:56
Neo8750os[Linux 2.6.17-7-386 - Debian testing/unstable]  up[ 13 hours, 21 minutes]  cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 547.676 MHz (1096.84 bogomips)]  mem[ 120.83/123.26 MB (98.0%)]  video[ at 1024x768 (32 bits)] 05:56
PWillSmoked1: we're here to help :)05:56
Lilandrai can't even switch the consoles there05:56
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thomashey guys, my cron command is still not working. as user i added a bash script to excecute, and it hasn't yet. it is executable. Must it be added as root?what i'm a doing wrong?05:57
zebedeeor try05:57
BoelckeAnyone here have success with a Creative Zen V mp3 player?  I'm not getting libmtp to even see the thing...05:57
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PWillBoelcke: what music manager are you using?05:57
Smoked1thomas. I suggest first showing the command05:57
Smoked1Maybe you missed something05:57
Neo8750this is a 700 mhz but if i turn speedstep on it overheats and freezes05:57
Crippy-BoyNice05:58
JoseStefanLilandra, did it panic?05:58
Lilandrawell when i switch i can't see the screen...it's kinda...black and maroon05:58
Neo8750well i'm going to bed05:58
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PWill'night05:58
CalcMaster86hey, i have a question--i've just installed a second hard drive in my computer running ubuntu, and i'm having trouble setting up a file table for it. fdisk -l shows that the computer recognizes the volume as /dev/hde, but even when i mke2fs -j /dev/hde, it will not create a partition table05:58
SchalkenPWill: any gimp 2.4 deb?05:58
BonBonTheJonanyone have any experience with RIADs on ubuntu05:58
BoelckePWill, I manually installed gnomad2 2.8.8, and libmtp 0.0.17.05:58
LilandraJoseStefan: i don't think it's panicked because it's still respondingn to mouse moving05:58
Crippy-BoyI had a problem with heat untill i upgraded the kernel no idea why, Its normally around 40-55 now, Not too bad05:59
zebedeeNeo8750: much ram ?05:59
sethkCalcMaster86, that command doesn't create a partition table, it creates a file system05:59
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Lilandrais it ctrl+alt+bkspc that refreshes?05:59
PWillSchalken: no, sorry. only 2.2. You could always buid from source05:59
sethkrun fdisk /dev/hde   to create partitions05:59
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thomas* * * * * postip >/dev/null 2>&1 # , /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application.png05:59
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PWillit's not hard, we can walk you through it05:59
SchalkenPWill: that never works for me :(05:59
JoseStefanLilandra, that restarts x05:59
PWillBoelcke: try rhythmbox05:59
Lilandrahmmm05:59
vicscandlmmmm unix and coffee... good idea...05:59
thomasSmoked1: hows that look?05:59
sethkCalcMaster86, then you run mkfs on the partition (or partitions, if you make more than one)05:59
i3dany app under linux can show a dvd device can support what type of media format?05:59
PWillSchalken: have you tried with the GIMP 2.4 before?06:00
SchalkenPWill: nope06:00
thomasi3d: any format supported by your system.06:00
Unix_n_Coffeerhythmbox is great for dvd or xine :)06:00
CorpseFeedershould Ubuntu be renamed to Unconfigurabletu? ..or perhaps Unusabletu or Unsetupabletu? ;)06:00
SchalkenPWill: where was that MOTU howto to set up a compiling environment?06:00
i3dthomas: what do you mean?06:00
Smoked1thomas, I am not familiar with the binary that you are pointing to06:00
BoelckePWill, I haven't tried that.  I suppose I could.  Apparently, theres some issue with these mtp mp3 players (mtp is some microsoft file transfer thingy).  They don't show up as regular usb devices...06:00
Smoked1sorry06:00
PWillSchalken: run this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:01
SchalkenCorpseFeeder: whats the problem?06:01
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thomasSmoked1: i said it is a bash script, it is executable, and i know for a fact it works. If i enter the command in terminal it works.06:01
CalcMaster86sethk, the swap partition is just like virtual memory in windows, right? it's a place to write temporarily to instead of ram... so i shouldn't need another swap partition, right?06:01
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CorpseFeedercan't setup wireless card06:01
thomasSmoked1: if terminal can execute it, shouldn't cron be able to?06:01
thomas!wireless06:01
mtholdensshow can we get the gnome updates?06:01
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:01
SchalkenCorpseFeeder: is it in the supported card list?06:02
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CorpseFeederno06:02
Lilandrawhat is sstart ubuntu in safe graphcis mode?06:02
CorpseFeederD-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.06:02
SchalkenPWill: thanks, downloading...06:02
thomasmtholdenss: sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade06:02
Unix_n_Coffeemytholdenss sudo apt-get update06:02
Smoked1Have you checked /var/messages just to see if there are permissions issues?06:02
thomasSmoked1: do you know why cron wouldn't be able to execute it?06:02
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adamHi. What's a good way to install gvim7 on Ubuntu Dapper 6.0606:03
adam+?06:03
mtholdenssis new gnome really good, any new features?06:03
PWillthomas: there was a cron update 2 days ago...06:03
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maple1how do I download porn on ubuntu?06:03
DeeahWhat is the best dapper guide for those cool affects(XGL or AIGLX?), I have an ATI Radeon 9100 card, and the free(libre) OSS driver "ati" works great for me for 3d accel stuff. What is the best guide to get that eye candy?06:04
PWillthomas: does cron work with any other commands?06:04
thomasPWill: its set to execute 2 days?06:04
Smoked1if the user that the crontab belongs to does not have rights to the bash file or what the bash file is doing it won't work06:04
sethkadam, build from source06:04
SchalkenPWill: okay now can i download the source and do the compile thing?06:04
Deeahmaple1, Use pornotube.com not youtube06:04
PWillhahahahahah06:04
JoseStefanmaple1: man wget06:04
adamadam: seriously?  I'd much rather let apt manage it...06:04
Dr_Willismaple1, www.fbi.gov has plenty06:04
thomasOHHH thankyou Smoked1.06:04
thomasdurr ehh06:04
thomasi thought i had more sense than that.06:04
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PWillSchalken: yep06:04
adamsethk: seriously?  I'd much rather let apt manage it...06:04
mtholdenssmapl1 watch what u ask for here..06:04
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thomascheers.06:04
maple1how about ubuntu-calendar?\06:05
sethkadam, I don't think there is a binary of v7 yet.  Does synaptic show it as an available package?06:05
adamsethk: nope, but it's a freshly installed Ubuntu, maybe I should add some repos?06:05
mtholdensshow do u know if we got the latest gnome?06:05
Smoked1thomas, sorry this is my first time in #ubuntu. Just trying to help where I can but will STFU till I have been here longer as I don't know who people are.06:05
sethkadam, might have to uncomment some.06:05
PWillmtholdenss: go to system>about gnome06:05
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sethkadam, but I haven't seen a binary of v7.  is there something in v7 that you need that isn't in v6?06:06
xHitSxcomo entro num canal brasileiro??06:06
adamsethk: sure: OmniCompletion, spell checking...06:06
sethk!br06:06
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:06
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LilandraJoseStefan06:06
sethkadam, vim isn't difficult to build, I've done it many times.06:06
LilandraI booted into safegraphcis mode06:06
Unix_n_Coffeelol some hackers made windows xp live  i was amazed by it06:07
JoseStefanLilandra, never used that :/06:07
Lilandralol :)06:07
PWillUnix_n_Coffee: wait, what?06:07
adamsethk: yeah, I just don't like the idea. I have bad experience with building stuff myself then maintaining over a long period of time.06:07
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Unix_n_CoffeePwill windows xp on a cd thats live like ubuntu is :)06:07
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PWillUnix_n_Coffee: oh. heh.06:07
LilandraJoseStefan, error message: The gnome session manager has crashed due to a fatal error (seg fault). when you close this dialog all apps will close and session will exit06:07
Unix_n_Coffeei hate windows never will go back i thought it was cool tho06:07
sethkadam, unfortunately, sometimes it's the only way.06:07
Unix_n_Coffeeit was a torrent06:07
PWillUnix_n_Coffee: i was gonna say... who would want that :P06:08
BHSPitLappyUnix_n_Coffee, BartPE?06:08
Lilandrabut at least it launched06:08
Schalkenwhats the difference between gimp 2.3 and 2.4, when 2.2 is the current stable?06:08
orcdestroyerhello... I have a big problem... I`ve installed the breezy version of ubuntu and used for some time... but today I was try to use the dapper drake version and of the middle at installation process I press reset06:08
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adamsethk: actually I already found a deb: http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/06:08
BHSPitLappyorcdestroyer, why'd you do that.06:08
JoseStefanLilandra, either something is wrong with your hardware, or ubuntu doesnt like your hardware06:08
adamsethk: just wondering if it's the best way or if there's a better one.06:08
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orcdestroyerand right now when I try to enter or access my windows xp... show up some error GRUB error 1506:08
eyequeuedebian/dapper huh? :)06:08
Lilandrayeah :(06:09
orcdestroyerBHSPitLappy: scare06:09
Unix_n_CoffeeHey just a simple question if someones willing to help me out, my laptop is running ubuntu linux awesome for 3 years now my dell desktop isnt working with the sound in amarok? any ideas06:09
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Schalkenorcdestroyer: okay. just go into the live cd, delete the ubuntu partition and reinstall ubuntu.06:09
Unix_n_Coffeeits onboard the sound06:09
PWillSchalken: nothing, much06:09
BHSPitLappyUnix_n_Coffee, does amarok look like it's playing?06:09
CorpseFeederdoes anyone else here have a wireless card which uses RT61 chipset?06:09
PWillSchalken: mostly new features. the stable will be out soon enough06:09
SchalkenPWill: why do they move onto 2.4 when 2.3 isnt stable yet?06:09
orcdestroyerSchalken: but I have just the dapper drake CDdd06:10
Unix_n_Coffeeyes it does play the sound but with no sound06:10
BHSPitLappyCorpseFeeder, are you by chance using an airlink card?06:10
SchalkenPWill: i see.06:10
orcdestroyernot the breezy06:10
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Juulorcdestroyer, or you can use the windows xp cd to go restore the windows master boot record. i'm sure windows support people can help you with that real quick06:10
CorpseFeederyes it is airlink06:10
adamif I have AMD64, do I have to download the special Ubuntu release for it, or can I just get the i386?06:10
PWillSchalken: well, that's just how development processes work. Mozilla is already working on firefox 3.0, and 2.0 isn't stable06:10
orcdestroyerok06:10
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eyequeueadam, either06:10
Schalkenorcdestroyer: you have valuable data in the ubuntu partition?06:10
Unix_n_Coffeeanyone have the same problem or similar problem06:10
orcdestroyerSchalken: I think so06:11
orcdestroyerI using the 6.06 LTS version right now06:11
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orcdestroyerbut its not installed06:11
orcdestroyeryet06:11
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, only amarok?06:11
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, or all programs?06:11
adameyequeue: but if I get the AMD64, then later I have to get only AMD64 deb packages, right?06:11
zebedeecorpsefeeder: has it a rtl 8180l chip in it ?06:11
Unix_n_Coffeeonly amarok it seems to be06:11
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mtholdenssmaple be careful of porn your isp may have a policy of porn...06:11
CorpseFeederno, it is RT6106:12
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, did it stop working after an upgrade?06:12
Unix_n_Coffeeubuntu plays its sound in the begging and end of session xmms works just not amarok06:12
Unix_n_Coffeei am not sure juul06:12
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eyequeueadam, i believe so, but i also know many amd64 users say the i386 work better for them06:12
BHSPitLappyCorpseFeeder, sorry, but I've tried and tried to get my friends' airlink cards to work for them, but I always end up with a brown screen of deat.06:12
sethkadam, if you install 64 bit, then yes, you have to use compatible packages06:12
BHSPitLappy+h06:12
Unix_n_Coffeekinda strange...06:12
zebedeedifferent me thinks :-(06:12
sethkadam, 64 bit is still immature06:12
eyequeueadam, perhaps best to get their opinions rather than mine :)06:12
mtholdenssgnome 2.1606:12
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adameyequeue: how do I do that06:13
Unix_n_Coffeei love my dell laptop with ubuntu everything works on it :) got the mac os x look06:13
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, hmm, i don't have amarok, but maybe your system is now using alsa for sound and amarok is still using oss06:13
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eyequeueadam, lurk long enough to see them? :)  i'm not sure06:13
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, there might be a preference in amarok to select between alsa or oss06:13
adamsethk: it also appearantly lacks some packages... adding that to your comments, I hardly see the point of the AMD64 release?06:13
darkbutterflywhat is the gnome applet that allows me to use paste bin?06:13
adam(which I am currently running)06:13
Unix_n_Coffeeyes i tried the preferences in ammarok06:13
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Unix_n_Coffee:| no success06:14
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, but i haven't tried amarok before so i couldn't say. you can check first if xmms is using oss or alsa for output in preferences06:14
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Juulah06:14
Unix_n_CoffeeGreat idea Juul how would i do that?06:14
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vaportraceGreetings ubuntootians06:14
stormchas3r3Unix_n_Coffee: how did you get the os x look?06:14
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Unix_n_Coffeestormchas3r3 PM me ;)06:15
vaportraceany gxiners here?06:15
l33t_n00bi need some help...06:15
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, open up xmms, hit ctrl+p this opens up preferences. at the bottom of the dialog an output plugin is selected, is it the alsa plugin?06:15
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l33t_n00bwhen i try to launch an app, the icon appears then disappears and nothing pops up06:15
JuulUnix_n_Coffee, also, tell me what: "cat .asoundrc.asoundconf" outputs06:15
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vaportraceGXine? Got Windows Media to play with in firefox but cant get much anything else. Also am wondering if (G)Xine can understand Qtime in firefox.06:18
vaportracesend links06:18
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vaportraceor good advice06:18
Schalkenhow come new app versions dont get into the repos?06:18
VoXis the samba package broken?06:18
sethkVoX, not that I know of.  why?06:19
JoseStefanVox, no06:19
vaportraceArrgh (Clarify)in Ubuntu playing Win Media files06:19
VoXim trying to install samba and get this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed06:19
l33t_n00bSchalken: it takes forever for the new updates to be put in the repos...usually every release they update the versions06:19
JoseStefanVoX, sounds like repository issues06:20
Schalkenl33t_n00b: what about the universe repo? isnt that supposed to contain the latest ver of ubuntu's apps?06:20
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Schalkenl33t_n00b: or was it backports...06:20
VoXJoseStefan: i've got 3 different repo's listed.. they shouldnt /all/ be busted06:20
vaportraceOK this is a stupid question. What config file keeps the list of suggested apps to open in gnome when you click a file?06:20
Schalkenim confused :S06:20
hondjewhen a release is made, only bugs and security fixes are made, features don't get upgraded.06:20
JoseStefanVox, put your sources.list on the !pastebin06:21
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vaportraceComon ppl I'm dien in the Debian Ref manual06:21
vaportrace:(06:21
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VoXJoseStefan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2298006:22
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l33t_n00bSchalken: yeah im confused to06:22
fivreSO GUYS06:22
Smoked1Im off to backup my data from my windows box so that I can try ubuntu on my laptop. Evryone wish me luck on this journey because god know things like this never go as planned. :)06:22
fivreIM WRITIN MY COLLEGE ESSAY ON 4CHAN06:22
l33t_n00b!backports06:22
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports06:22
brian98I hate graphics drivers, it's official06:22
brian98just wanted to share with the group06:22
fivreoops wrong window06:22
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hondjeSomething tells me his college is the University of Phoenix....06:23
l33t_n00b!universe06:23
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:23
DeeahHow can I make the gnome panel weather thing show my town? I can't put in my zip, I have to chose from towns already listed. But the closest town is 15 minutes away.06:23
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sinisterris there a sysinfo app for ubuntu?06:23
bohemianCorpseFeeder,   you have downloaded http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz  ?06:23
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JoseStefanVox: ok, i see many problems06:23
zebedeehonjie: lol06:23
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VoXJoseStefan: oh?06:23
mikehelp06:23
CorpseFeederyes06:24
JoseStefanVox: i dont think you should have copies of the same repository, as mirrors can be out of sync06:24
mikeaplication drop down from gnome menue is blinking and dosent work06:24
vaportracetoss it in mike06:24
CorpseFeederD-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.06:24
bohemianuntarred it?06:24
mikevaportrace:  aplications menus blinks and dosent work06:24
VoXJoseStefan: hmm point06:24
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mikevaportrace:  when i lcick the drop down menue comes down and just blinks and i cant click anything06:24
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bohemianie tar -zxfv RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz06:25
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sinisterrCorpseFeeder: what would it be?06:25
melonam learning as i go.. so play nice.. .. i'm editing my screen resolution and have tried: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but i get "cannot open display (null)"06:25
vaportrace:?06:25
l33t_n00bwhen i try to launch an app, the icon appears then disappears and nothing pops up06:25
melonwhat am i doing wrong?06:25
CorpseFeederbohemian: yes06:25
JoseStefanVox: you also dont have dapper-updates nor dapper-security. Not that they are mandatory, but they are recommended06:25
bohemianwhat have you done since?06:25
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VoXJoseStefan: ok, i commented-out all but the archive.ubuntu repo's, still getting the same error06:25
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bohemianhave you read the readme file from the archive?06:26
CorpseFeederwait.. i find some links to all the howto's I have done06:26
JoseStefanVox: you probably had them in the past and have samba references for the dapper-updates and dapper, and have the version problems you are seeing.06:26
vaportracemike whens the last time you updated? perhaps you've got partials06:26
cvtwhat's the lightest word application?06:26
maple1MS word06:26
cvtword processor*06:26
maple1MS word06:26
VoXJoseStefan: the system was installed less than 12 hours ago06:26
mikevaportrace:  i am on edgy06:26
bohemianCorpseFeeder,   what kernel are you running?06:26
vaportraceeek06:27
cvtkword kprocessor kapplication*06:27
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maple1cvt: try Koffice or bloated openoffice06:27
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mikevaportrace:  it started after i fooled around with adesklets and gdesklets06:27
l33t_n00bi like abiword06:27
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maple1try vim06:27
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Mangixi'm getting issues06:27
brian98<CorpseFeeder> use ndis06:27
cvtmaple1,  i know how to try random apps. i'm looking for the lightest06:27
JoseStefanVox: if you would like to have an updated system you should add 2 more lines, one with dapper-updates and another with dapper-security06:27
CorpseFeederdone everything here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13298006:27
Mangixi can't start up Wolfentein properly06:27
Mangixhelp me06:27
maple1vim06:27
maple1or gedit\06:27
brian98unless you want to strangle your wife06:27
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Mangixi even tried sudo06:27
Mangixnothing works06:27
CorpseFeederabd here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rt606:28
Adrossthrough no fault of its own, ubuntu is using the xgl server by default when I log in. Is there anyway to change this back so gdm is configured to run the standard x server?06:28
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b0ysc0uthow can i update to the new version of gnome 2.16 on depper drake?06:28
maple1cvt: just pay $1000 for M$ office and run it through wine06:28
BHSPitLappybohemian, have you had success with an airlink card? (or another rt61)06:28
vaportracemike havn't tried the desklets (assume the web pkg) though recall something about latest version on older ubuntu versions. hmmm06:29
CorpseFeederand tried all of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rt61WirelessCardsHowTo06:29
bohemianBHSPitLappy,   I've not even tried06:29
Adrossb0ysc0ut: firstly, scouts rocks. Secondly, you can't, you'll need to install edgy(well, you can, but realistically, you shouldn't)06:29
cvtmaple1,  that's your solution for all of life's problems--just pay06:29
BHSPitLappybohemian, ah.06:29
bohemianCorpseFeeder,   does the card get detected?06:29
maple1cvt, use kpoker for text06:29
VoXJoseStefan: ah, yes, dapper-updates did the trick06:29
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cvtmaple1,  i'll use wine and steam06:29
JoseStefanVox, ok06:29
maple1use steam console for text06:29
b0ysc0utthank u Adross06:29
vaportracemike check the desklets site for that info06:29
BHSPitLappyAdross, scout rocks? are those different from regular rocks?06:30
maple1then use prntscrn06:30
AdrossBHSPitLappy: never mind06:30
BHSPitLappy:P06:30
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b0ysc0ut:)06:30
VoXJoseStefan: many thanks06:30
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maple1cvtm sudo su su su vim sudo sudoedit su sudo root06:30
JoseStefanBHSPitLappy, scout rocks are the first to fall before an avalanche06:30
BHSPitLappyJoseStefan, ah, the brave souls.06:30
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JoseStefanVox, np06:31
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Deeahhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Oirw7b38.html06:31
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bohemianCorpseFeeder,   I would read the ralink linux forums if I were you, and follow the instructions there. they're accessible from the same page you grabbed the filoe from06:31
CorpseFeederi don't know if the card is detected or not. sometimes it appears in System>Admin>Networking as Ra006:31
JoseStefanBHSPitLappy, Scout Rocks can help save lives! :D06:31
vaportraceany xine gurus out there twiddlen with the MS, Qtime & Real codecs?06:32
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bohemianthere are about 10 different how tos on how to get that particular card working in different environs06:32
bohemianCorpseFeeder,   lspci  and see if it is there06:32
Lilandrahow do i reconfigure X?06:32
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CorpseFeeder0000:02:04.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 030206:32
bohemianthat's it!06:33
CorpseFeederiwconfig outputs...06:33
shawnr_Anyone know of a tutorial to get ebay's Turbo Lister working under wine ?06:33
CorpseFeederra0       RT61 Wireless  ESSID:""06:33
CorpseFeeder          Mode:Auto  Frequency:11 MHz  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s06:33
CorpseFeeder          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off06:33
CorpseFeeder          Link Quality=0/100  Signal level:-121 dBm  Noise level:-111 dBm06:33
CorpseFeeder          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:006:33
CorpseFeeder          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:006:33
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NickGarvey!paste > CorpseFeeder06:33
bohemianindeed06:34
bohemianwhat does ifconfig show  (Iuse the pastebin)06:34
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bohemianactually CorpseFeeder   join #sajdhf06:34
bohemianthat will be easier06:34
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vaportraceXine codecs anyone? Got the MPlayer-w32codecs-1.0rc1-svn19294.i586.rpm working for totem in firefox but can't get GXine working with it. Any ideas?06:36
l33t_n00b i have an app installed but when i click it, nothing happens...so i just ran it in Konsole and it opened but it doesn't respond....anyone know why?06:36
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sethkl33t_n00b, not enough information.  you can attach to it with strace and see what it is doing06:38
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etzerdHello all06:38
etzerd?06:38
l33t_n00bsethk: so i type in konsole...  sudo wifi-radar | strace ?06:39
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etzerdThere is a new Kernel 2.6.17, can I upgrade to that Kernel since my is 2.6.15?06:39
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Gevaudan82how does one set their path, or specifically append to their path in ubuntu...i'm coming from centos where we use /etc/profile.d...what's the equivilant to append to the path affecting all users in ubuntu?06:39
JoseStefanwhere is this new kernel?06:39
etzerdSeptember 8, 200606:40
etzerdmeaning yesterday06:40
etzerdIf you Google it you will see it06:40
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sethkGevaudan82, /etc/profile06:41
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sethkGevaudan82, best not to change that, however06:41
etzerdMy question is, can I upgrade to the new Kernel? If yes what is the command to do so since I'm new to linux.06:41
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Asc253806:41
sethkGevaudan82, there is also a skel directory used by useradd to construct .bashrc06:42
Gevaudan82sethk: all i see is a for loop...i'm used to doing something like xport PATH=$PATH:/new/path06:42
sethkGevaudan82, you can't rely on /etc/profile being sed06:42
JoseStefanetzerd, ubuntu 6.06 will always use the 2.6.15 branch06:42
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JoseStefanetzerd, ubuntu 6.10 will have the 2.7.x06:42
sethkGevaudan82, use zsh, it has a feature where dups are eliminated from PATH06:42
ApesMaHas anyone printed a CD w/an Epson Photo Stylus R220? I'm trying (using glabels), following Epson instructions on positioning the CD, but it just sptis the CD out and blinks at me.06:42
etzerdWhen is Ubuntu 6.10 will be release if you know?06:43
l33t_n00bsethk: ok i ran strace06:43
JoseStefanetzerd, you can only install 'that' kernel manually, aka compile it yourself06:43
ApesMaetzerd: End of October, I think.06:43
sethkGevaudan82, the fact that the file happens to contain a for loop doesn't imply that you can't add an export statement to it06:43
JoseStefanetzerd, 2006 month 1006:43
sethkl33t_n00b, and?06:43
eyequeueetzerd, end of october06:43
littlekisshi people06:43
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Gevaudan82bashrc is just for one user though...hmm...i'll look into zsh but at this point i probally better stick to bash as it's what i know and i do some shell scripting for work06:43
etzerdGreat06:43
sethkGevaudan82, look at zsh, it is a superset of ksh, like bash, but with much better ksh compatibility06:44
etzerdIs there a beta for it out there?06:44
Gevaudan82sethk, thanks again :)06:44
JoseStefan!tell etzerd about edgy06:44
sethkGevaudan82, the scripts will work unchanged in zsh, and it has some great features.   when you have time, look it over06:44
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horrorkSpecifically what program would you download to play dvd movies, As i can play only the movies that were previously loaded on my linux ?06:46
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Nullifi3dlo06:46
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Nullifi3dneed help with a couple things06:46
horrorkeno huh?06:47
l33t_n00bsethk: im seeing alot of errors relating to no such file or directory06:47
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shawnr_Anyone know of a tutorial to get ebay's Turbo Lister working under wine ?06:48
horrorkPurely just for the purpose of playing DVD movies06:48
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PhoulIs there a way to fix a stuck pixel06:48
Phoul?06:48
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l33t_n00bphoul: i heard to take a magnet to the stuck pixel and carefully try to revert it06:49
Phoul...06:49
Phoullmao06:49
PhoulYeah sure06:49
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horrorkCan someone give me a tip on what program, best for DVD movies!!!!!06:49
l33t_n00bPhoul: im serious...i read it in maximumPC06:50
Gevaudan82sethk: out of curiosity, would i be better off creating a symlink to /usr/bin and running the respective script i'm trying to set to path from there...i can't think of a difference but maybe i'm overlooking something?06:50
iLikeSpoonshorrork, what do you mean? It depends on what you like. totem and mplayer are both fine, though I prefer mplayer06:50
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Jobberwackytotem-xine for dvd06:51
sethkGevaudan82, I don't see a difference either06:51
horrorkI guess im talking to myself, WELL  i will check it out as i may already have a few programs that run DVD!06:51
sethkGevaudan82, a hard link would be better, if both are on the same physical file system06:52
sethkGevaudan82, soft links can become dead.  if /usr/bin/xyz   points to /w/xyz, and you delete /w/xyz, /usr/bin/xyz stops working06:52
Gevaudan82sethk: i guess i spoke too soon...the script requires an ini file be in the same directory06:52
sethkGevaudan82, that can't happen with a hard link06:52
sethkGevaudan82, ah, ok.06:52
sethkGevaudan82, you could link the ini file to, but that's a can of worms you don't want to open.  :)06:53
wabbitCan I make compiz related queries here or is there a specifc channel for that??06:53
sethks/to/too/06:53
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eyequeuecompiz > wabbit06:53
wabbitI've depleted the google resource :-(06:53
sethkwascally, you can ask here06:53
wabbitoh great06:53
xHitSxcomo06:53
xHitSxentra06:53
wabbitI followed all the instructions for compiz setup06:53
xHitSxno06:53
xHitSxforum06:53
xHitSxbrasileiro06:54
wabbitbut the title bar is not displayed06:54
Nullifi3dwtf is the default root password06:54
sethk!br06:54
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:54
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wabbitand none of the shortcuts work06:54
xHitSx?Q06:54
sethkNullifi3d, with the default install options, it isn't set.  you can set it with sudo passwd.  some people advocate using sudo instead of su06:54
xHitSxalguem me explica?06:54
genoobieanyone here use xubuntu or thin client stuff?06:54
Gevaudan82Nullifi3d: your sudo password is the same as the username you set...if you want root type sudo passwd root06:54
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DigitalNinjawhat is the package that installs all the dev tools like gcc?06:55
sethkGevaudan82, by using sudo, the effective user id is root, and so sudo passwd is the same as sudo passwd root06:55
squeebuild-essential06:55
wabbitI also says that gconf is missing. Am I missing out something06:55
DigitalNinjaclear06:55
DigitalNinjathanks squee06:55
Gevaudan82honestly sometimes it's just easier to do stuff as root rather than to type sudo for every little thing...i don't look into gnome as root but for command line stuff it can be useful imho06:55
squeeIs ther an equivilant of checkgmail for pop3 accounts?06:55
squeenp ninja06:55
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sethkGevaudan82, yes, plus I believe that the ubuntu sudo configuration is actually less safe than a more conventional setup.06:56
Nullifi3dok next question... which driver should i get for this go x160006:56
sethkGevaudan82, but sudo is  a religious belief06:56
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genoobieokay...here's what I'd like to do...06:56
genoobieI have a bunch of machines that are pretty old06:56
l33t_n00b!SUDO06:56
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:56
genoobieI'd like to do one of two things06:57
sethkas if sudo weren't 35 years old06:57
genoobiethey're mostly PII/64 & 12806:57
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wabbitI'm no sys admin and would really like to have someone help me with the last steps of compiz setup06:58
squeeare there any programs that it in the notification area to notify of pop3 emails?06:58
genoobieokay...anyone use ubuntu server?06:58
wabbitI use the dapper dist06:58
squeewabbit: where are you at?06:58
ISOLATEDViRuSok06:58
wabbitbangalore06:58
ISOLATEDViRuSapparently my thing sees something06:58
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ISOLATEDViRuS...06:58
ISOLATEDViRuSok let me rphrase06:58
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squeewabbit: er, i meant in setting up compiz06:58
genoobieI guess that's a no...06:58
ISOLATEDViRuSapparently ubuntu has detected the drive i tried to mount, and when i try to mount it says only root can.06:59
ISOLATEDViRuSwhat is the command to mount the drive?06:59
wabbitwhen I execute the toggle display06:59
wabbitthe title bar disappears06:59
wabbitI mean toggle compiz06:59
Gevaudan82only root can mount...create a directory and type mount /dev/thedevicename /mnt/mycreateddir06:59
squeewabit: what video card?  What repos are you using? XGL or AIGLX?07:00
wabbitand none of the shortcuts work07:00
wabbitNvidia Geforce Go 740007:00
wabbitXGL07:00
ISOLATEDViRuSso for example, sudo mount //dgnr/mountage /media/usbdisk  ?07:01
wabbithttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl these were the instructions I followed07:01
sethkGevaudan82, you need options, unless the mount point is in /etc/fstab.  if it is in /etc/fstab, you only need one of the mount point or the device07:01
wabbitThis is what ps -efa shows for XglXgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:fbo -accel glx:pbuffer07:01
squeewabit: hmm, i'm probably not much help then, I only have experience with setting up ATI...07:02
squeewabit: did you have direct rendering before you went into xgl?  (or can you still log into a normal x session and check?07:02
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etzerdJoseStefan is it safe to install Edgy now.07:02
wabbitthanks squee07:02
JoseStefanetzerd, 'safe' is a big word07:02
squeeetzert: i'm not jose, but no.07:02
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squeewabit: not a problem but i didn't do much.  Check around compiz.net07:03
sethkJoseStefan, it's safe to install it, as long as you don't run it.  :)07:03
Nullifi3ddrivers for go x1600?07:03
JoseStefansethk, i dont know07:04
wabbitsquee: I have my windows using nieces with whom I wanted to showoff compiz. Hope I manage to get it to work. bye07:04
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sethkJoseStefan, hard to prove, I'll admit  ...07:05
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genoobieokay....here's my scenario,07:07
sethkwabbit, neices, not nieces07:07
genoobieI'd like to setup about 40 older PC's as internet cruising machines + simple word processing07:07
genoobieI have two options, 1) netboot07:07
genoobieand setup an ubuntu server07:08
genoobieor 2) install some distro on the PC's07:08
Nullifi3d:P07:08
Nullifi3danyone willing to help me out with video drivers>07:08
BHSPitLappysethk, ?07:08
genoobiebut they're PII's with 64 - 128MB ram07:08
sl021er.. i need help with connecting ubuntu with a wireless network07:09
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genoobie6GB HDD's that are probably pushin' five years07:09
genoobiesl021, ndiswrapper07:09
sl021?07:09
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thedashcan Ubuntu's archive manager read .daa files?07:09
BHSPitLappysethk, did you just counter-correct someone's spelling? :P07:09
genoobieis there an ubuntu server channel?07:09
BHSPitLappysl021, it would really benefit you if you could get a wired connection on that computer temporatily.07:10
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BHSPitLappyand temporarily.07:10
LDS_Trooperhow do I use "Remote Desktop" ?07:10
BHSPitLappycan you do that?07:10
sl021hm, ok07:10
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sl021well, i would have to disconnect this one, but w/e07:10
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squee_does anyone know of a good program that checks pop email acounts?  I dont want a full fledged program like evolution but something like checkgmail or gmailnotifier07:11
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LDS_TrooperRemote Desktop gave me a command for the other person to enter...07:11
LDS_Trooperbut where do they enter it?07:11
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jake1what library do i need to play .wma?07:12
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jake1in xmms07:12
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squee_jakel: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28XMMS.2907:13
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sinisterrhost[Jasper3]  | os[Linux 2.6.15-23-386 - Debian testing/unstable - Ubuntu DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com )]  | up[ 2 hours, 27 minutes]  | cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 497.695 MHz (995.74 bogomips)]  | batt[charged, 100%]  | chipset[Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)]  | cache[ 256 KB]  | mem[ 246.94/250.24 MB (98.7% [|||||||07:13
sinisterr|||] )]  | users[ 1]  | load[ 0.31]  | procs[ 79]  | swap[ 75.44/501.99 MB (15.0% [||--------] )]  | disk[ 2161.73/10832.68 MB (20.0% [||--------] ) (IBM-DARA-212000)]  | video[ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) at 1024x768 (24 bits)]  | opengl[Mesa GLX Indirect powered by Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org with driver 1.2 (1.5 Me07:13
sinisterrsa 6.4.1)]  | sound[ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)]  |  | xchat[Version: 2.6.1]  |  | eth0[in: 201.99 MB, out: 8.60 MB]  | [sysinfo-dg 1.1-DocTrax_1.46] 07:13
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Shadowpillarjesus, get a better sysinfo script07:14
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sinisterrlol07:14
horrorkTotem plus Mplayer are worth a go, Cheers, Linux does rock!!!!!!!!!!!07:14
BHSPitLappyit does?? stop the presses!!07:15
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genoobieany ltsp gurus?07:16
brian98i definitely found a bug07:16
genoobieor what channel should I check...07:16
brian98is there a channel?07:16
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hondjehi, genoobie :D07:16
genoobieholy macaroni!07:17
brian98If you have a rdp connection open to a windows box and a 3d screensaver kicks in 1 in 5 times x will hang07:17
hondjehehehe :-)07:17
brian98but you can still use the rdp session07:17
genoobiewhat's up07:17
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hondjeNot too much, less than hacking at LTSP problems :)07:17
horrorkI really mean highly usseful technology, that seems to be a good learning curve for all Linux users out there, So i really am not a computer wizz, but i want to get more out of my linux, learn more, explore more and just usse it as best as possible!!!!!!!!07:17
genoobieI'm trying to mooch off of some ltsp know-how07:18
genoobiehondje you know?07:18
genoobieI'm looking at a how-to07:18
genoobiebut I'm not really concerned about how at this point07:18
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hondjeNo, never played with it, though I did meet some of the devs at the last comdex. Nice guys, very enthusiastic07:18
genoobieI'm just trying to see what kind of machine would work as a server...07:18
horrorkSee ya, linux freaks (LOL) just kidding8-)07:19
genoobieabout 40 machines max...07:19
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genoobiemostly internet cruising, and simple word processing, but without HDD's07:19
genoobieso a thin client via net boot or USB boot07:19
fyrestrtrgenoobie: anything with 2.4 Ghz or better processor, and 1 GB or better ram, with a fast hdd if you will be running thin clients.07:20
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hondjeprobably wouldn't need anytning too beefy for that07:20
dfamorato_genoobie: i dont  remember where i learned this.. but it is recomended tha u use 20 mb of ram at least for each of the remote terminals + 256 for the server07:20
genoobieokay....so07:20
fyrestrtrso as I said, 1GB ram or better :)07:20
genoobie1GB ram (at least), and some type of fast HDD07:20
dfamorato_shure u did07:20
dfamorato_sata at least07:21
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genoobiefyrestrtr, u sure re: proc speed07:21
fyrestrtrget atleast two network cards.07:21
genoobieoaky07:21
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dfamorato_gigabit if possible07:21
fyrestrtrgenoobie: yeah, you are not going to be doing a lot of host processing.07:21
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jake1how can i play .wma files?07:21
genoobieumm...07:21
genoobiefyrestrtr, why not?07:21
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fyrestrtronly get gigabit if you have a gigabit switch with clients having gigabit network cards, otherwise, its a waste.07:21
dfamorato_cause u said so07:21
genoobieclients = 100MB07:22
genoobiewell07:22
fyrestrtrgenoobie: because you'll be setting up thin clients, and thin clients do the processing on themselves, not the host.07:22
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genoobiethe clients look mostly like this...07:22
dfamorato_fyrestrtr: its about 20 buck more07:22
genoobiePII, 64-128MB ram07:22
fyrestrtrjake1: install w32codecs from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:22
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fyrestrtrdfamorato_: that really isn't the point. You could take that $20 and spend it somewhere else, like getting a decent controller for your disks, or a high quality case.07:23
genoobiefyrestrtr, What needs to be installed on the clients?07:23
genoobieif anything that is07:23
vicscandl!sata > vicscandl07:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:23
BHSPitLappyif netboot, then nothing...07:23
BHSPitLappyassuming the nic's in the thin clients are capable07:23
vicscandlhrm07:23
genoobieI guess I'm a little unclear, if netboot is OK07:24
fyrestrtrgenoobie: a PXE enabled network card, the ability to boot from said card, processor, and ram. hdd can be there, but its really not required.07:24
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genoobiefyrestrtr, about how much ram on the client side07:24
genoobie(xubuntu)07:24
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fyrestrtrgenoobie: whatever minimum is required for the environment. I'd say between 128-25607:24
fyrestrtrnothing less than 128.07:24
genoobiewith some simple browser, and word processor07:25
genoobiefyrestrtr, really?07:25
genoobieeven xfce?07:25
fyrestrtryou are not setting up 'dumb' terminals, but rather thin clients, and they will need some kind of memory.07:25
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fyrestrtrgenoobie: yes, even xfce.07:25
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genoobieurmph...07:25
hondjeYeah, you don't want to do less than 128 unless you're going to really strip shit down07:25
genoobiehondje, xfce, dillo (maybe), and some wp07:26
fyrestrtrif you go will less ram, your users will start complaining ... about 20 minutes into their session.07:26
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fyrestrtrgenoobie: if by wp you mean either Abiword or OO, you'll DEFINATELY need some client RAM.07:26
genoobiefyrestrtr, no way on OO or abiword...07:26
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genoobiefyrestrtr, maybe something like glorified emacs07:27
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fyrestrtrwhat else do you plan to run?07:27
genoobiefyrestrtr, that's it07:27
Jobber_wackyabiword is fine on 25607:27
fyrestrtrgenoobie: emacs? that's it?>07:27
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genoobieno, lightweight browser, lightweight wm and light wp07:28
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genoobiemaybe even lighter than xfce07:28
genoobietwm?07:28
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CheekyBoincfluxbuntu :o)07:28
fyrestrtrso lets say you go with fluxbox (that's really lightweight) and emacs or gvim for your wp, and ... dillo.07:29
genoobiealright...sounds good07:29
fyrestrtrI think for a better experience, get firefox.07:29
BHSPitLappywho's the target user here?07:29
genoobieoaky...07:29
fyrestrtra lot more people are familiar with it, than dillo.07:29
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Jobber_wackytry swiftfox07:29
genoobiesay firefox07:29
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BHSPitLappyfyrestrtr, firefox is the OPPOSITE of lightweight.07:29
genoobieswiftfox07:29
hondjefirefox is a bloated pig07:29
genoobie:)07:29
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fyrestrtrBHSPitLappy: I know that.07:29
genoobietrue07:29
BHSPitLappyswiftfox might be a good option.07:29
hondjeswiftfox is a skinny pig07:30
genoobieokay, these are high school kids07:30
Jobber_wackyif you want seriously light browser, go with elinks :)07:30
fyrestrtrbut you have to think of the users; memory isn't expensive.07:30
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genoobiewell, true07:30
b00mwhat's the best keylogger out?07:30
Jobber_wackybut I doubt any windows user would tolerate elinks07:30
mactenchianyone here an ntp expert?07:30
genoobiebut, for the time being, just to get things up and running07:30
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fyrestrtrno one is going to give two hoots that you saved $15 on RAM if everyone is complaining that they can't use the browser to go visit youtube :P07:31
genoobiewe're not talking sophisticated users07:31
genoobieyoutube is blocked07:31
genoobie:)07:31
fyrestrtrI'd say you'll be a getting a lot of 'proxy' attempts on that network :P07:31
fyrestrtrespecially if you said its high school kids.07:31
CheekyBoincGaleon or Epiphany are also nice "Gecko Engine" Browser07:31
fyrestrtrthey are the most sophisticated users you'll meet.07:31
genoobieI'm just talking about internet cruising machines for a little bit of research07:31
genoobiefyrestrtr, yes well perhaps in some high schools...:)07:32
genoobieurban high schools....not likely07:32
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genoobieokay...07:32
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genoobiefyrestrtr, suppose  we go light07:33
genoobieswiftfox, fluxobx07:33
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fyrestrtrgenoobie: I say get the RAM, and install firefox/swiftfox -- heck, get either of those, with an IE skin. Install a good Host IDS on your server, along with squid, shorewall, vpn and local dns services.07:33
fyrestrtrwell, maybe not a vpn.07:33
genoobienot necess...07:33
CorpseFeederwhen I type " sudo /sbin/insmod rt61.ko" I get "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists". What does "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" and why am I getting an error?07:33
genoobieumm...okay, but fyrestrtr remember 40 machines, $15 ram x 40 = $60007:34
Jobber_wackykazehakaze is a light mozilla based browser07:34
CorpseFeeder What does "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" DO? and why am I getting an error?07:34
hondjeCorpseFeeder: insmod loads a module07:34
bohemianit is already loaded07:34
fyrestrtrgenoobie: good thing for you is, most machines will come with the minimum ram necessary. I don't think anyone sells any machine with less than 256 RAM.07:34
genoobieso fyrestrtr do you think 64 is ok with flux and swiftfox07:34
BHSPitLappyJobber_wacky, what a ridiculous name07:34
genoobieno fyrestrtr I'm trying to use my legacy equipment07:35
genoobieI've got 40 machines07:35
Jobber_wackyBHSPitLappy, it's a foreign name I guess07:35
fyrestrtrgenoobie: hrmm, it could work with 64, but I would seriously consider atleast 128.07:35
fyrestrtrI once did what you are doing with 96 MB, and it was just usable.07:35
genoobieokay...I might be able to scare up some ram07:35
CorpseFeederok.. if it's already loaded, I can skip that part of the installation is that right?07:35
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hondjeUse epiphany...it works just as well, and it's way lighter07:35
fyrestrtrgenoobie: man, ram is easy to come by, TRUST me ;)07:35
genoobieepiphany?07:35
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genoobieI might be able to get a hold of 64MB sticks in the district07:36
Jobber_wackymy bad, it's "kazehakase"07:36
BHSPitLappyisn't epiphany a mail client07:36
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BHSPitLappyoh07:36
BHSPitLappyevolution07:36
BHSPitLappylol07:36
mt_holden_ss<mt_holden_ss> back again, umm howcome on synaptic manager then i go to settings repositories then go add the univers and mulitverse are unitcked when i ticked the other day and hit ok and reload now its unticked...07:36
hondjeno, you're probably thinking of evolution07:36
fyrestrtrBHSPitLappy: errm, no.07:36
bohemianCorpseFeeder,    remove it before you start07:36
BHSPitLappyI corrected myself, hush07:36
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fyrestrtrmt_holden_ss: probably the repo servers are down.07:36
genoobieI don't know if I'll be able to convince the district to spend the money on the server07:36
CorpseFeederbohemian, how would I remove this?07:36
bohemianmodprove -r rt61.ko07:37
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fyrestrtrgenoobie: why don't you get a local business to sponsor it?07:37
mactenchintp?  anybody?07:37
mt_holden_ssfyrestrtr i tick it now and hit ok close it , re open and they are unticked..07:37
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champ`measureHello peeps. I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to install Video Drivers from the internet. Tells me to type "sh Nvidia-blah blah-pkg2.run".....now where the heck am I suppose to type that?07:37
genoobiehmm...I might be able to...but the local businesses in buffalo are all tapped07:37
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michaelin the shell07:38
mt_holden_ssterminal07:38
michaelyes that07:38
CorpseFeederbohemian: bash: modprove: command not found07:38
fyrestrtrchamp`measure: at a console. Hit alt+f2, type gnome-terminal, hit enter, then type the command there.07:38
genoobietied07:38
fyrestrtrCorpseFeeder: its modprobe07:38
bohemiansorry modprobe07:38
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bohemianmy typo07:38
genoobiefyrestrtr, I would, but local businesses in buffalo are pretty tapped07:38
CorpseFeederhaha , I see :)07:38
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mt_holden_ssso fyrestrtr what u think is the prob?07:38
fyrestrtrgenoobie: hrmm.07:38
genoobiebesides, the district has money, it's just tied up in bureaucratic bs07:38
knapperCan someone recommend a good id3 tag editor?07:39
fyrestrtrmt_holden_ss: first, when you tick them and hit OK, are you hitting Refresh?07:39
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vicscandlfyrestrtr: is there a 64bit ubuntu chatroom?07:39
brendonjtdoes anyone here know about wine and can help me out?07:39
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CorpseFeederbohemian: ermm would you believe "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found."07:39
fyrestrtrvicscandl: you are in it :)07:39
mt_holden_ssfyrestrtr yes i am07:39
genoobieumm...btw if anyone from the Buffalo Board of Ed is here....just kidding about the bureaucracy...:)07:39
vicscandlone and the same eh?07:39
bohemianperhaps07:39
genoobiewell fyrestrtr thanks for the info...07:40
fyrestrtrmt_holden_ss: then its probably that your repo mirror is down :(07:40
bohemiandid you depmod -a earlier?07:40
michaellatter07:40
fyrestrtrgenoobie: no problem. There are also programs you can install on your server that will give you ghosting features.07:40
mt_holden_sshow can i fix that, it reloads the packages but its just not ticked when i go back to it tahts my prob07:40
genoobie??07:40
vicscandlfyrestrtr: know of any issues with trying to install the 64 version with a SATA primary?07:40
genoobieto where?07:40
fyrestrtrgenoobie: incase you do what I did, wipe the machines every two weeks :)07:40
genoobieoh...gotcha07:40
fyrestrtrvicscandl: not that I am aware of. Is it e-sata?07:41
fyrestrtror SATA II or whatever its called, the new one?07:41
genoobieso fyrestrtr you think 20MB per PC + 256 for the server, sata (at minimum) and 2.4 GHz, processor...07:41
genoobiehmm...okay...07:41
vicscandlfyrestrtr: hrm, not sure, live boot is up, lemme check07:41
CorpseFeedernot this session, but yesterday I think I depmodded something...07:41
genoobietake 10 of the 40, turn it into a BEOS cluster07:41
fyrestrtrgenoobie: 20MB what? RAM?07:41
genoobie:)07:41
mt_holden_ssfyrestrtr i dunno...07:42
genoobieyeah...07:42
mt_holden_ssit reloads teh packages07:42
fyrestrtrgenoobie: ermm, no that most definately will not work. You need at a minimum, 64 RAM.07:42
genoobiefyrestrtr, no, in the server, 20MB per pc07:42
champ`measurevicscandl, it came up with the error: no such file or directory07:42
fyrestrtroh oh, I misunderstood you.07:42
champ`measureeven though its right on the desktop07:43
vicscandlchamp`measure: failed to create a file system07:43
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genoobie:)07:43
fyrestrtrgenoobie: it could work, but .. try to see if you can get closer to 768 or 1GB on the server.07:43
genoobiefyrestrtr, what was your setup barely workable at 9607:43
champ`measurehow do I create file system?07:43
CorpseFeederThe instructions I am following (trying to follow) right now do not mention having to use the depmod command at any point.07:43
fyrestrtrthe more you can squeeze into the server, the better off you'll be.07:43
genoobieof course...07:43
brendonjt<champ`measure> mkfs07:44
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genoobieso, the setup07:44
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genoobieflux, swiftfox and what would be a decent wp07:45
fyrestrtrgenoobie: 10 clients, 96 MB RAM each, fluxbox + vim + firefox (swiftfox wasn't around back then). One 14 port switch 10/100 -- server had 768 RAM, 60 GB HDD ATA (SATA wasn't economical back then).07:45
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genoobiefyrestrtr, where was your bottleneck07:45
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fyrestrtrfreakin firefox.07:45
genoobieclient or server07:45
genoobieright...I may not even need a wp07:45
fyrestrtrthe server was fine, never got any server loads on it. It ran DNS, Apache, MySQL.07:46
fyrestrtrand FTP services.07:46
fyrestrtrthe longest lag was during reboots.07:46
genoobiethis would even be running that heavy a load07:46
genoobieno web07:46
genoobieno mysql07:46
genoobieno ftp07:46
genoobiemaybe ftp07:46
fyrestrtryeah but 40 clients ;)07:46
genoobieokay...07:46
genoobietrue...07:47
genoobielet me write my colleague, tell him re: server specs, and maybe something might happen07:47
CorpseFeederi can't get past the part in these instructions "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" because it just responds with "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" and "modprobe -r rt61.ko" just repsonds "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found"07:47
genoobiein the meantime, I'll set them up as standalone07:47
fyrestrtrmind you, my setup never had more than 3 people on it at any given time. If you have 40 clients, but only 5 are ever used concurrently, you are okay with lower specs. But if you have 40 and 25 are being used concurrently, you need better specs.07:47
genoobievs thin client07:47
fyrestrtrgenoobie: also research virtual machines.07:48
genoobieI'll try a few live CD's to see who's got decent HW support for 1998 vintage pc's...07:48
genoobieeh?07:48
genoobievirtual machines?07:48
fyrestrtryeah.07:48
genoobiewhat's the gist...will google in a min07:48
fyrestrtrget a beefy server, then all you need on a the client, is a remote X session to your server that's got a VM loaded.07:49
fyrestrtryou don't even need a local hard disk :P07:49
genoobiehmm...07:49
hondjewouldn't you have to shell out some cash to EMC though?07:49
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hondjeor whoever owns vmware these days07:50
genoobieemc?07:50
fyrestrtrhondje: EMC?07:50
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CorpseFeederwhat does "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found" mean?07:50
genoobiedon't x-servers need a fair amount of memory though....and that'd be one helluva server for about 25 to 40 clients07:51
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mtholdensswhats best to have xgl as a session or always on?07:51
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genoobiehondje, I went over some algebra with the kids today....07:51
genoobiewow...I've actually got a good bunch this year!07:51
hondjeah, that'll cause you a bit less stress this time around :)07:52
CorpseFeederhow do I get past this error?07:52
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elkbuntugenoobie, hondje if this is just idle chatter take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please07:52
hantoowhat would be the easiest way to make hibernate/suspend work on laptop? apt-get install acpi stuffs?07:52
genoobiewe solved newton's univ grav law for r and I think I only lost one kid on the way...07:52
genoobiesorry...07:52
CorpseFeederhow do I get past the error "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists"07:52
genoobiefyrestrtr, again, thanks for all the tips07:52
fyrestrtrno problem, best of luck.07:53
aumhi - i'm using hibernate/suspend2, because the default hibernate button shipped with ubuntu doesn't work - how can i change the exit/hibernate button so it runs my own hibernate script?07:53
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mobuntuany good utils for monitoring servers for ubuntu07:54
vicscandlchamp`measure: fyi, starting in safe video mode seems to have 'fixed' the problem i was having.07:55
CorpseFeederhelp I am stuck! how do I uninstall a non-existent module so I don't keep getting "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists"?07:56
knapperCan someone recommend a good id3 tag editor?07:56
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sl021er, now what about nisdwrapper?07:59
CorpseFeederWhy am I getting both "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" AND "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found." Has my computer shat itself? Is the OS buggered? Do I need to re-install the whole Ubuntu OS?08:00
champ`measureHello peeps. I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to install Video Drivers from the internet. Tells me to type "sh Nvidia-blah blah-pkg2.run".....I get an Error "No such File or Directory"08:00
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mtholdenssanyone here got gnome 2.1408:01
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CheekyBoinccd with the Terminal to the directory where you Download Nvidia-blah blah-pkg2.run , then type sh foo.blah-blah.run08:02
mtholdenss2.16 i mean08:02
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brendonjthey there  is there any wine experts here08:03
CorpseFeedercan anyone tell me why I am getting both "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" AND "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found." How can it both exist and not be found?08:03
CheekyBoincWine Experts are here -> #winehq :)08:03
knapperWhere can I get the Book Antiqua font?08:04
BHSPitLappyactually, they're in #winehacking08:04
BHSPitLappybut they don't like it when you ask normal questions in there :)08:04
brendonjtyip  i know  me in there now08:04
champ`measureCheekyBoinc: cd?08:04
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CheekyBoinccd = Change directory. A Shell Command08:05
squarepusherNatalie Portman is hot08:05
CheekyBoinc:D08:05
sl021lol08:05
champ`measureThanks08:05
champ`measurethat helps i think08:05
fyrestrtrCorpseFeeder: what are you trying to do?08:06
vicscandlhfs! ubuntu64 just owned me.08:06
dfamorato_lol08:06
CheekyBoinc:)08:06
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CorpseFeederwhy isn't there a shell command fesiw? (fix everything so it works)08:06
squarepusherI just switched to ubuntu from gentoo08:06
squarepusherCorpseFeeder try rm -Rf /08:07
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: its called `sudo rm -rf /`08:07
squarepusherviscandl: hehe08:07
knapperNatalie Portman is my forum avatar :D08:07
dfamorato_squarepusher: tired of compiling everything ?08:07
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CorpseFeederwhat does rm -rf / do?08:08
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: try it and find out.08:08
hantooi switched from gentoo to ubuntu too08:08
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: Experience is the best teacher!08:08
hantoorecently :)08:08
squarepusherdfamorato_: how'd you know?08:08
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vicscandlvideo card benchmark software?08:09
CorpseFeederit makes my screen scroll up for ages....08:09
squarepusherhantoo: I did yesterday, and it really did pain me... but it was killing my hardware. I have used binary distros in the past and not been satisfied.08:09
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: oh shit, I hope you didn't really do that!08:09
CorpseFeederwhy?08:09
CheekyBoincomg !08:10
squarepushervicscandl: you can tell him08:10
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: Experience is the best teacher!08:10
squarepushermuahahahaha08:10
squarepusherHAHAHAHAHA08:10
CorpseFeederthe screen is still scrolling....08:10
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: (ie: you just wiped your os)08:10
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: press CTRL+c08:10
CheekyBoincstrg + alt + entf will fix that CorpseFeeder08:10
vicscandlos != ass08:10
CheekyBoincstrg + alt + del08:10
hantoohah08:11
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE that will repair the filesystem.08:11
CheekyBoinc^^08:11
CorpseFeederit stopped. I don't thikn it could do anything. it just said "rm: cannot remove `//usr/share/doc/findutils/README': Permission denied" mostly08:11
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: good thing you did not sudo that one.. ;)08:12
squarepusherhantoo: why did you make the switch?08:12
CorpseFeederso, can anyone tell me why I am getting both "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" AND "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found."08:14
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vicscandlCorpseFeeder: what exactly are you trying to do?08:14
b0ysc0utwhat up.  audio from flash player is spotty -- is there something I'm missing?08:14
CorpseFeederI am trying to follow the instructions to install this wireless card08:14
squarepusherb0ysc0ut: define "spotty"08:14
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vicscandlCorpseFeeder: what card?08:15
torpedo|dogb0ysc0ut: just FYI, you're not alone.08:15
CorpseFeederbut it wants me to type "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" and I can't it won't let me08:15
b0ysc0utjust played a CD with sound juicer, and am trying to listen to some videos on youtube, but there's no audio08:15
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: define 'won't let me'08:15
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bohemianCorpseFeeder,   did you depmod -a  ?08:15
CorpseFeederit's a D-Link DWL-G510 if that means anything to you.08:16
bohemianit's a POS is what it is08:16
dfamorato_squarepusher: compiling is fun.. but not for every single detail on our system..08:16
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: did you try to see if ubuntu would auto-recognize it from setup?08:16
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CorpseFeederit won't let me because it just says "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists"08:16
squarepusherb0ysc0ut: I have the same problem with youtube. I think it may be that their player is using some weird proprietary flash stuff. Didn't work in gentoo for me, either.08:16
CorpseFeederubuntu won't auto recognize it08:16
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dfamorato_squarepusher: sometimes. we just wanna click on something and this click should be enough !08:17
squarepusherdfamorato_: Right, and I'm not done compiling by any means. Couldn't find a working deb for cmus08:17
b0ysc0utsquarepusher: besides switching to that 'other' crappy OS to listen to this, have you found a way around it?08:17
squarepusherb0ysc0ut: video.google.com :)08:17
b0ysc0utindeed :)08:17
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fiberchunksb0ysc0ut is a wuss08:18
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fiberchunkshar har08:18
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squarepusherdfamorato_: Agreed. But we'll see. One thing I didn't like about fedora back in the day was that updating a package (say apache) would overwrite httpd.conf without warning. etc-update is one thing I'll miss.08:18
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fiberchunksin any event -- squarepusher does it seem to be an arts / alsa / oss thang, or you think (or can definitively state) that it's a flash player thing?08:19
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squarepushertry $alsamixer. If you have a mixer, unmute it and play some mp3. If that works it's probably firefox.08:19
CorpseFeedercomputer won't let me "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" - says it already exists, but it also won't let me "modprobe -r rt61.ko" - says it doesn't exist. I don't understand08:19
fiberchunkshmmm, good idea08:19
dfamorato_squarepusher: indeed its a problem... but when u do MAKE .. MAKE INSTALL, would gentoo overwrite your work ?08:20
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squarepusherCorpseFeeder: I think you want do do an $ lsmod|grep rt61. Is it listed? If not, I hink you want modprobe rt61, not modprobe rt61.ko.08:20
squarepusherdfamorato_: I don't follow.08:20
marthi, i didnt unmount a flash drive propely and now although it detects it, i cannot view it08:20
squarepusher*think08:21
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CorpseFeederlsmod|grep rt61. responds with  "rt61                  258656  1"08:22
dfamorato_squarepusher: u said that fedora sometimes overwrite your confs when u update..... when u compiled anything on gentoo, wouldt it overwrite your work to ?08:22
CorpseFeederso does it exist or what?08:22
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: that means your module is loaded (at some point you should do $ man grep and try to understand as much as you can).So what is your problem exactly?08:23
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squarepusherdfamorato_: no it creates temporary files that you have to manually update by running either etc-update or dispatch-conf. They include incremental diffs, so you can see the changes side-by-side. A pretty enviable system, if you ask me. Makes apt-get seem like chopped liver.08:24
squarepusherBut I am very impressed with adept so far.08:24
CorpseFeederi am trying to install this RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0. drivers from the beginning again because last time I tried I couldn't get it to work.08:24
DeeahWhat is a good guide for doing aiglx with an ati 9100(works good with free(libre) OSS ati driver) on a edgy box?(X 7.1)08:24
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: what is RT61_Linux?08:24
CorpseFeederthat is the name of the driver file08:25
dfamorato_squarepusher: nice sh*t ... didnt know that.... diff files on apt would be nice !08:25
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squarepusherCorpseFeeder: no shit! What is the driver for?08:25
squarepusherdfamorato_: no, that would be gentoo :)08:25
CorpseFeederfor a wireless network card08:25
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: which wireless network card...08:25
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: try to be as specific as possible if you want help.08:25
CorpseFeederD-Link DWL-G510 Rev C with RT61 chipset08:26
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CorpseFeedera PCI card08:26
dfamorato_lol08:26
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squarepusherCorpseFeeder: ndiswrapper -l08:26
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vicscandlmmmmm ndiswrapper....08:27
RancidLMhey all has any one here got a working cvscedega running in ubuntu 6.06?08:27
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CorpseFeederndiswrapper...08:27
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: you should read up on the forums. There are a buttload of posts about that exact card.08:28
CorpseFeeder...08:28
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link_36pHow can i get openGL 1.3?08:28
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CreativePonyhiya08:28
SV452hay all08:28
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LinuxCarthello. does cpufreqd works?08:28
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: And if you want to use Linux, you really ought to read this--> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html08:28
LinuxCartor should I use powernowd?08:28
CorpseFeederyes, I've seen the posts on the forum. I think it was my trying to follow the instructions in those posts which has cocked up my system08:28
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CreativePonyI have a disk image in a file i'm trying to copy in to my hdb3 partition, using parted, the image is of a full disk not just a partition, so dd wont work for this08:29
SV452question - where can i look to disable startup stuff that have nothing to do with my system?08:29
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: probably. I don't use wireless, so I can help with module (un)loading but not with configuring your drivers and stuff. That's a little beyond the scope of my existence at the moment.08:29
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: it could also be the steady diet of decaying flesh that has cocked up your system.08:30
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CreativePonyi'm using the dapper install cd as a live cd to do it.. running parted /dev/hdb, i called cp /path/to/image.img 1 3, and it gave me an "Error: Incorrect magic values in the journal header." message08:31
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CreativePonydoes anyone know what that means? :/08:31
CorpseFeederwell, could you tell me how to unload this module so I can start again from the beginnning?08:31
bohemianCorpseFeeder,   tried modprobe -r tr6108:31
bohemianwithout the .ko on the end08:31
bohemianrt61 even08:31
CorpseFeederok08:31
squarepushertry $apropos remove module08:31
CorpseFeedermodprobe command responds "FATAL: Module rt61 is in use." I will try apropos now...08:33
squarepusherAnyone know ChucK?08:33
bohemianifdown ra008:33
CreativePonythe image contains a HFS+ partition.. just one partition08:34
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Deeahhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jmmN4J70.html08:34
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aumhi - why does update-grub wipe out my own custom dual-boot entries from /boot/grub/menu.lst?08:35
CorpseFeederok, "apropos remove module" gave me a screen full of commands followed by a number in brackets then their definitions08:35
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: me too08:35
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: try man apropos. and did you read that link I sent you?08:36
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pipHello,my mplayer can not play .rmvb file ,why ?08:36
CorpseFeederifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied08:36
pipI have just installed it08:36
Healotyou need a Real Media codecs to do that...08:37
Healot!find realplayer08:37
ubotuFound: realplayer08:37
pipHealot, name please ?08:37
CorpseFeedersquarepusher: not yet, my browser seems to be broken08:37
pipYou mean I should also install realplayer ?08:37
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CorpseFeederfirefox won't launch for some reason08:37
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Healot!info realplayer08:37
uboturealplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)08:37
Healot!w32codecs08:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:37
LinuxCartAnyone familiar here with laptops?08:37
squarepusherCorpseFeeder: I see a reinstallation in your future.08:38
pipbut realplayer is not free software ,i dont want08:38
LinuxCart..well maybe you could help me by telling me how to get more verbose messages when running a service08:38
Healotyou know it isn't libre08:38
Healotand yet you need to watch you RealMedia files with it08:39
squarepusher!info apropos08:39
ubotuPackage apropos does not exist in any distro I know08:39
squarepusher!man08:39
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:39
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Tom_Reinke!video08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:40
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aumhi - using dapper - the 'hibernate' button didn't work, so i installed suspend2-enabled kernel and hibernate scripts - works well - now i want to change the desktop 'hibernate' button so it runs my hibernate script - is this possible?08:40
Tom_Reinke!codecs08:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:40
squarepusher!acpi08:40
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)08:40
BadDolphinNot meaning to butt in, but I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time (first linux install ever) and Firefox doesn't play vids.  The documentation says to install "totem gstreamer-firefox-plugin" from the Universe Repository.  But there's no such thing listed there.08:41
CorpseFeederthis computer is rooted and I'm getting nowhere08:41
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SV452hmm08:41
Tom_ReinkeBadDolphin, have you installed your video codecs?08:41
squarepusher!firefox08:41
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:41
BadDolphinNo, I have not gotten to that yet.08:42
Tom_Reinkeand I have a question - How do you install codecs with .wmv support08:42
squarepusher!firefox08:42
SV452mplayer?08:42
DeeahDoes anyone know where the compiz.info gpg key is, so I don't get gpg warnings from apt-get08:42
fyrestrtrDeeah: #xgl08:42
squarepusheranyone using keychain || gpg-agent?08:42
BHSPitLappyTom_Reinke, w32codecs I think is what it's called08:42
pipHealot, thanks08:43
Tom_ReinkeSV452: Uhh, I need to install some codec's from somewhere.08:43
SV452question:  can i get a codec to play m4a files or should i just convert to mpr or something ?08:43
squarepusherAnyone using shorewall?08:43
squarepusherAny non-newbs here/08:43
SV452w32codec?08:43
Tom_ReinkeBHSPitLappy: I tried that but I don't know how to install it once I have it on my machine08:43
SV452that what i use08:43
SV452i got it with mplayer08:43
Deeahfyrestrtr, This is aiglx though, not xgl08:43
squarepusherWhere is the ubuntu channel for non-newbies? :)08:43
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squarepusheri.e., ex-gentooers?08:43
pipSV452, yeah08:43
dfamorato_=P08:43
jbmigel#GENTOO08:43
squarepusherGod ubuntu rules08:44
SV452@ pip: ???08:44
squarepusherjbmigel: #debian ...?08:44
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greed_What is the method to upgrade to the latest distro using apt?08:44
pipSV452, it is called w32codecs08:45
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squarepushergreed_: rm -Rf /08:45
SV452pip: yip08:45
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Tom_ReinkeCan someone please run me through, step by step how to install w32codecs?08:45
pipTom39Away, are you using ubuntu dapper ?08:45
PHZN2squarepusher :  Nice try, but I'm not an idiot08:46
Healotw32codecs is simply Windows Media codecs, you can simply copy and put them sumwhere, that somewhere I forgot08:46
Tom_Reinkepip: Xubuntu08:46
pipTom_Reinke, , are you using ubuntu dapper ?08:46
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PHZN2Now, seriously, is there someone who can help me out here?08:46
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SV452i downloaded mplayer and did a force install - started synaptic and it complained bout broken package and choose fix and synaptic installed all the needed stuff inlc w32codecs08:46
jbmigelTom_Reinke http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper08:46
squarepusherPHZN2: really? I thought all non-idiots know how to type $ man apt-get08:46
pipTom39Away, sorry! wrong message08:47
Tom_Reinkepip: ok.. well, all I know is that I'm using xubuntu08:47
pipTom_Reinke, you can easily find it in synaptic package manager and mark it to to install08:48
Tom_Reinkepip: when I mark it to install it never does.08:48
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Tom_Reinkepip: and when I try to install it manually, I get to the './' part and my terminal doesn't understand that08:48
AstralJavasquarepusher: I understand sometimes working with beginners might be a bit, consuming, but it doesn't mean you can start talking rubbish here. Please refrain from causing trouble, but instead help fixing them if you can. Thank you. :)08:48
SV452i had that prob - then i manually downloaded and forced it to install08:48
SV452hold on - i got my .deb packages somewhere08:49
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pipTom_Reinke, so strange . have you change the permission of w32codecs file you have got08:49
SV452maybe u'll have more luck with that rather than struggle to compile08:49
squarepusherAstralJava: and PHZN2 didn't even say thank you. NOW IS THERE SOMEONE HERE WHO CAN REALLY, I MEAN _REALLY_ help me??? :)08:49
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Tom_Reinkepip: how do I check that, would you mind doing this through PM?08:49
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bourbonAny more questions?08:50
AstralJavasquarepusher: You're right, there are those you seem unthankful (?), but still... :) I didn't notice, what kind of a problem are you having? I only saw you helping others.08:50
BadDolphinNot meaning to butt in, but I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time (first linux install ever) and Firefox doesn't play vids.  The documentation says to install "totem gstreamer-firefox-plugin" from the Universe Repository.  But there's no such thing listed there.   Surely I don't have to install codecs just to see the programs listed in the repositories.08:50
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pipTom_Reinke, easy,right click on w32codecs file and see the permission ,check there if it is excutable08:51
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BadDolphinI'm able to see lots of stuff in the Universe repository, but no plug-in for firefox video.08:51
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CorpseFeederi had to reset my computer... everything is mostly back to normal but all my screen preferences, desktop icons and email setup is gone.08:51
jbmigelVadDolphin this link shows you howto get codecs http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper08:51
pipTom_Reinke, I mean see the propertities08:51
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ichigo_kunhello everybody08:52
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bourbonAstralJava: no problems here. I'm just bored, interested to know if anyone else uses Shorewall, ChucK, gnu/screen, irssi or cmus on ubuntu (because I do, and they are awesome!)08:52
BadDolphinBefore I get codecs, don't I need to make the browser even be able to see the player?08:52
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bourbonBadDolphin: Since you're new let me be the first one to tell you that plugins are (probably?) never going to work as well as you'd hoped/expected.08:52
BadDolphinI guess I just don't see what codecs have to do with software missing from the Universe repository.  Am I missing a key concept?08:53
ichigo_kuni'm in a big trouble with ubuntu dapper 6.06 LTS08:53
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bourbonThe key concept IMHO is that Firefox is a web browser, not a video player.08:53
CorpseFeederwho was it who told me to do "rm -rf /" or whatever it was??? I think that stuffed up my conmputer.08:53
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SV452@ Tom_Reinke :  hay check this out - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs08:53
champ`measureHow do I edit my Xorg.conf file?08:53
bourbonchamp`measure: $ sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:53
champ`measurethanks08:54
jbmigelwow CorpseFeeder did you really run that?08:54
BadDolphinYeah, I know some things won't play, but I really won't wanna keep an OS that, as a rule, won't allow the browser to display ANY vids.  I can live with "some" not working.08:54
CorpseFeederyes08:54
ichigo_kunMy usb devices don't work since i've upgrade to dapper 6.60 LTS08:54
bourbonBadDolphin: what is the file ext you wish to play?08:54
jbmigelCorpseFeeder that guy was a jerk and your screwed now08:54
CorpseFeederapparently it would have been worse if I typed sudo in front.08:55
jbmigelCorpseFeeder the command you ran deleted all files you have write access too08:55
Tom_ReinkeSV452: Thanks, I'll try that too08:55
jbmigelyes it could have been worse08:55
SV452@ Tom_Reinke - they show how to install w32codecs and all08:55
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Tom_ReinkeSV452: even if I'm using xubuntu instead of ubuntu?08:55
jbmigelbourbon i hope your taking note of the damage you have done to CorpseFeeders comp08:55
bourbonjbmigel: I'm in tears.08:56
Arcad3where can i get a list of all channels from freenode?08:56
CorpseFeederi'm sure you are lol08:56
SV452@ Tom_Reinke : unless i missed a big lesson - it should work no prob08:56
bourbonCorpseFeeder: try replacing your normal user with a different one.08:56
bourbonsince my command did not include sudo (as did someone else's) root's files should all still be intact.08:57
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CorpseFeederi am the normal user? should I get a friend to use my computer instead???08:57
vicscandlCorpseFeeder: did you seriously run that rm command?08:57
jbmigelCorpseFeeder i just hope you didnt have any important personal files08:57
bourbonvicscandl: I can't believe it either08:57
CorpseFeederI did run it. I didn't have any important files on this computer08:57
SV452@ Tom_Reinke : xubuntu i recon is only ur WM that is diff - the underlying system is the same all round -08:58
vicscandlbourbon: i feel bad tricking a windows user.08:58
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bourbonCorpseFeeder: you may be interested in this link http://gullible.info08:58
SV452@ Tom_Reinke : Xubuntu is a complete GNU/Linux based system with an Ubuntu base08:58
Tom_ReinkeSV452: thank you very much08:58
bohemianCorpseFeeder,   you ready to try again?08:58
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ichigo_kunHi everybody08:58
bourbonvicscandl: All's fair...08:58
fooThere is no fubuntu or something with fluxbox, right? I like gnome, but I need something light and quick for my laptop. Just wondering.08:59
bourbonichigo_kun: HI ichigo_kun08:59
ichigo_kuncould I get some help please08:59
vicscandlmmm fluxbox is yummy08:59
jbmigelfoo you can do the server install then add fluxbox08:59
BHSPitLappyfoo, fluxbuntu!08:59
CheekyBoincFluxbuntu is in development foo08:59
SV452flux is cool08:59
bourbonflux sux08:59
DigitalNinjacan someone search for hacking open suse08:59
ichigo_kuni got a big trouble since i upgrade to dapper 6.06 LTS08:59
fooCheekyBoinc: oh, it really is?08:59
foonice08:59
DigitalNinjaI need the website08:59
bafluxbuntu! that sounds awesome!08:59
bayay!08:59
champ`measureBourbon: That didn't allow me to do anything08:59
foojbmigel: server install? Isn't that.. for, uh, servers?08:59
bourbonI want to see ratpoisuntu08:59
SV452hehe08:59
bourbonor ionuntu08:59
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ichigo_kunmy usb devices don't work09:00
DigitalNinjaI would search but I'm beeing filtered09:00
champ`measurestill can't edit my xorg.conf09:00
CheekyBoincYes foo! Take a look http://fluxbuntu.org/09:00
fooIs it stable?09:00
bourbonchamp`measure: uh... do you know what vim is?09:00
CheekyBoincNo !09:00
champ`measurenope09:00
BHSPitLappyfo0bar, server install is just a minimalistic install.09:00
champ`measurei'm a noob09:00
CheekyBoincThere is a early alpha09:00
BHSPitLappyuhh09:00
BHSPitLappysorry09:00
BHSPitLappyfoo, ^09:00
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bourbonThen you need to learn that first, or use a graphical editor like kate or gedit.09:00
jbmigelfoo it just installs with no desktop... then you can install flux09:00
CorpseFeederbohemian: I am ready to try again but I don't know if my computer is after all the abuse it has suffered from peple tricking me into wrecking it....09:00
BHSPitLappyfo0bar, sorry for the highlight.09:00
bourbonchamp`measure: replace vim with gedit in the above09:00
Tom_Reinkechamp`measure: don't do anything burbon tells you to do09:00
vicscandlwell i'll be... thanks CheekyBoinc... never knew there was a flux distro...09:01
bohemianCorpseFeeder, uname -r to check your kernel version, cd to /lib/modules/kernel version/extra/  , delete rt61.ko  then depmod -a                       then start again09:01
juan!grub09:01
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:01
foojbmigel / BHSPitLappy: So it's just a minimal install. Is there anyway to do a minimal install with the desktop edition or no?09:01
bohemianyou need to be root CorpseFeeder   so sudo those commands09:01
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bourbonfo0bar: server install is headless09:01
ichigo_kunmy usb devices don't work since i upgrade from the normal dapper to the LTS version09:01
CheekyBoincIt will be nice :) Fluxbuntu09:01
BHSPitLappyfoo, I don't think so. download the alternate or server cd.09:01
CorpseFeedercan we move to another channel so I can keep track of what's going on...09:01
BHSPitLappyit only takes like half an hour on the torrent09:01
bohemian#sajdhf09:01
jbmigelfoo sorry im not sure about using the desktop cd09:01
champ`measureI got into the xorg.conf file, but when i try and save my changes it won't let me. Read Only09:02
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fooBHSPitLappy: eh, lame. No way to even do an advanced mode and select no packages or something? Instead of selecting options you mean it just installs everything? Lame09:02
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hantooheh09:02
bourbonchamp`measure: type su - and type root password. then type vim /etc...09:02
hantooi just grab the server edition and install it09:02
vicscandlchamp`measure: sudo vim <filename>09:02
BHSPitLappyfoo, no package selection. install minimal, and apt your way up.09:02
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champ`measureso when you say vim you mean gedit?09:03
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jbmigelfoo you could just install the desktop version, then add flux, then remove gnome... will take a little extra hd space but will work09:03
foojbmigel: hm, I see.09:03
bourbonchamp`measure: sudo <arbitrary text editor command> <textfile>09:03
fooUbuntu probably installs some goodies, though, eh?09:03
vicscandlchamp`measure: i'm oldschool... its vim, but yea, gedit works for you graphics nuts.. ;)09:03
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BHSPitLappychamp`measure, if I were you, I'd type "/ignore bourbon!*@* ALL" in this window.09:04
bourbonfoo: gnome-crap is one I think09:04
bourbonBHSPitLappy: what is _your_ problem?09:04
BHSPitLappyheh09:04
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bourbonI'm happy to assist everyone.09:05
BHSPitLappydid I do anything to you?09:05
foobourbon: ahh, ok.09:05
fooHmm.09:05
bourbonBHSPitLappy: keep my name out your mouth, beeyotch09:05
BHSPitLappyget a more original name.09:05
fooSo a server install is just a minimal install?09:05
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vicscandlfoo: quite09:05
BHSPitLappyI -happen- to be an alcoholic, so that wouldn't be possible.09:05
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BHSPitLappyfoo, right-o09:05
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jbmigelfoo that depends on your definition of minimal09:05
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foojbmigel: debian minimal.09:06
testleperI think ION3 is the best WM evar.09:06
BHSPitLappytiled wm ftw!09:06
testleperIf it weren't written in lua it might be usable.09:06
ichigo_kuncan i have somebody attention for some few minutes09:06
ichigo_kunplease09:06
BHSPitLappy!ask09:06
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:06
atkHi. I've used previosly xubuntu and now I installed gnome. For some reason my notify-send doesn't work: it just exits right away without any error and without displaying anything. How to sort it out?09:06
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SV452how do one manage startup stuff for dapper drake?09:06
VoXhi, i'm having trouble with samba. when i try to connect to my shared directory, i'm getting this error: [2006/09/10 01:54:12, 0]  smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(592) Can't become connected user!   any ideas?09:06
jbmigelfoo im not sure of the exact packages but that is the idea09:06
vicscandlanyone have a name for a video card benchmarking program?09:06
fyrestrtrSV452: use bum09:07
fooah09:07
ichigo_kunmy usb devices don't work since i upgrade from the normal dapper to the LTS version so anybody know howto to solve this problem09:07
SV452bum?09:07
testlepervicscandl: glxgears09:07
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fyrestrtr!info bum09:07
fooeh, they should call it minimal install and not server. That's stupid.09:07
ubotubum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB09:07
sethkVoX, sounds like a process is running as an ordinary user instead of root, and for that reason can't execute an su09:07
SV452!info bum09:07
ubotubum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB09:07
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testleperfoo: agreed09:07
sethkVoX, well, the equivalent of an su from within a program, but you get the idea09:07
SV452awesome09:07
SV452thanx!09:07
vicscandltestleper: glxgears, the screensaver?09:08
VoXsethk: how would that have occured? everything has been installed straight from apt09:08
footestleper: Should I stay with debian unstable? I'm debating. Hmm. I run ubuntu on one of my desktops and 2 servers09:08
testleperit also counts fps.09:08
vicscandltestleper: ahhh.. thanks.09:08
sethkVoX, I'm not sure.  did it ever work?09:08
jbmigelfoo i think calling it server is a marketing thing to get people to install it on their servers.... instead of everyone installing minimal deb09:08
VoXsethk: no. this is a fresh install, not even a day old09:08
foojbmigel: I see09:08
pipHealot, Hi,I have installed Mplayer and  it can play .rmvb movies but a little problem is when I start mplayer to play there comes a window saying :It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card avaliable!09:09
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sethkVoX, there are only two possibilities.  either it has a problem changing the effective user ID on the linux box, or it is getting an authentication error from the windows box it's trying to talk to.09:09
sethkVoX, if the latter, it could be as simple as an incorrect windows side password.09:09
VoXsethk: it's not talking to a windows box.09:09
sethkwhat's it talking to?09:09
juani did a fake install of ubuntu (Some old 1 i had a livecd for), can i redirect the grub to my newer install so that i can delete the fake 109:09
VoXsethk: another ubuntu box09:09
SV452question - i have a dapper drake install @work (behind proxy/firewall) and need to get packages with synaptic but it can't download them since i get an error proxy auth required and i have to manualy dl with wget - i have my box joined the domain and yet it doesn't work - any ideas ??09:09
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sethksamba is only used to communicate with windows networks09:10
VoXsethk: uh no09:10
Mezsethk, hello09:10
testleperfoo: I dunno, I'm new to deb/ubuntu. But I googled around for "ubuntu vs debian" and found some interesting stuff.09:10
sethkVoX, then you shouldn't be using samba at all.09:10
sethkMez, hi09:10
sethkVoX, uh, yes09:10
jbmigelSV452 i think the system tab has a network proxy config applet09:10
footestleper: I see. What'd you learn?09:10
tj_while bash scripting, is it possible to store the first line in a slave file, into a variable in the main file?09:10
SV452i have set that up too09:10
Mezsethk, sorry, thought you were seth kinasy09:10
SV452and i have done the whole export proxy_http stuffs too09:10
VoXsethk: i've been using smb to communicate between linux boxes for a few years09:10
jbmigelSV452 it didnt help?09:10
sethkMez, that's ok, you can say hello09:11
sethkVoX, I suppose you can, but why?09:11
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sethkVoX, a totally useless layer of inefficiency09:11
SV452nothing helped - i can dl from terminal but not from gui09:11
testleperfoo: eventually went with ubuntu, because of the general consensus that Debian is disliked for its irregular release schedule and unorganized developers. Supposedly the "corporate structure", not my phrase, of ubuntu is one of its strong points. And it does have one hell of a branding campaign to boot...09:11
VoXsethk: mmuh. ok.09:11
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sethkVoX, doesn't explain your problem, I know, but it's certainly an odd way to do things.09:11
footestleper: Gotcha. Nice09:12
jbmigelSV452 so download from terminal09:12
sethkAre you trying to share files?  printers?  or what?09:12
SV452i have been - but i recon the problem should be solveable09:12
VoXsethk: share files between numerous linux and windows machines09:12
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testleperThat doesn't mean I dislike Debian, just other peoples' opinions. So far I am very impressed. And I did the normal install, which was perhaps the most flawless and usable part of the entire experience---or any Linux experience I have had so far.09:12
sethkVoX, then you are talking to windows boxes09:12
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sethkVoX, I didn't mean that all the boxes had to be windows boxes, just some09:12
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Burgundaviafoo: for the record, there isn't much "debian vs ubuntu". For the most part, the key people in each get along very well.09:13
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fooBurgundavia: Nice09:13
VoXsethk: yes, but i havent tried to connect to smb with windows yet09:13
BHSPitLappythat works for me09:13
testleperBurgundavia: I meant vis-a-vis, not vs.09:13
sethkVoX, ok, then there has to be a user mismatch between the boxes.  One is a new install, what's the other?09:13
VoXa new-ish dapper install09:13
VoXsame username09:13
VoXsame pass09:13
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sethkVoX, same UID also?09:14
testleperVoX: same group?09:14
testleperVoX: trick question.09:14
VoXsethk: yes09:14
VoXtestleper: same group?09:14
testleperDoes that even matter? Never used samba here.09:14
sethkVoX, I don't believe so09:14
sethkI mean09:14
sethktestleper, I don't believe so09:14
SV452any ideas jbmigel ?09:14
testleperVoX have you looked into fuse or cygwin? Is samba necessary?09:15
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jbmigelSV452 are you using synaptic as "gui"?09:15
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atkCould someone help figuring me out why notify-send doesn't actually output anything and just quits right away?09:16
SV452yip09:16
juani did a fake install of ubuntu (Some old 1 i had a livecd for), can i redirect the grub to my newer install so that i can delete the fake 1?09:16
jbmigelSV452 there is a network proxy config in synaptics "preferences" sheet09:16
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testleper!notify-send09:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about notify-send - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:16
SV452i did that too09:16
SV452hence why i am asking  maybe i missed something - hehehe09:16
jbmigelSV452 perhaps your password/09:17
testleperatk: what is notify-send?09:17
testleperkde user here09:17
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VoXtestleper: havent looked at those, no09:17
sethkSV452,  sniff the packets for both cases, and see what's different about the one that succeeds vs. the one that fails.09:17
SV452i doubt that09:17
jbmigelSV452 I note that snaptics proxy configs point to port 3128 or something... do you think your corporate proxy is set up to proxy that? maybe change it to 8009:18
atktestleper: displays notifications, balloon messages type of messages09:18
SV452hmmm - i thought that the reason it works for terminal is cause i did the export proxy_http thing09:18
SV452nope - we use 312809:18
testleperatk: is that something you can call directly?09:18
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stimfalialist09:19
stimfalialst09:19
SV452what i mean is our proxy port is 3128 -09:19
sethkSV452, then why would it work with wget?09:19
jbmigelSV452 hmmm09:19
testleperI am going to go play with ChucK now.  http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ Goodnight09:20
atktestleper: Yes. A gnome thing. If you don't know what it is then I'm pretty sure you can't help. I've gotten command and it's options correctly so it has to be some other thing that causes problems.09:20
stimfalia#list09:20
SV452i have no idea to be honest09:21
jbmigelSV452 you said you did the export http_proxy nonsense?09:21
SV452yip09:21
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SV452for both my domain user( i configured ubuntu to log on to domain) and root09:22
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LucinderAn entire room of computer literate people o.o *picks her jaw up off the floor*..  I feel so out of place.. *leaves*09:22
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jbmigelSV452 does it work if you call synaptic from a console?09:25
SV452bum rules !09:25
SV452i tried that09:25
abhinayhow to change the usplash screen to "Ubuntu" (default usplash screen) at booting time .. ?09:25
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opexocCould anybody tell me how can I download only 1 or 2 updates from ubuntu software updates program because 173 packages are checked to update... so If I want update only 1-or 2 I have to check out 171/172 packages... How can I do it easier?09:25
jbmigelSV452 did it work then?09:25
SV452nope09:25
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SV452any recomendation or a checklist09:26
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SV452so i can go monday and check it out09:27
jbmigel1. forcibly remove corporate proxy and give free duplex network access to all09:27
McJerrydoes anyone know if there is a channel for msicomputers ?  I keep getting a no keyboard detected error on POST and have tried numerous keyboards and have flashed the bios and reset/cleared the bios and keep having the same problem any suggestions?09:27
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khnhhi guys09:27
SV452@ jbmigel - hehehehe - it doesnt mean i am domain admin i can do that09:27
SV452hehehehehe09:27
atkHow to find out why my notification-daemon isn't working and if it's running at all?09:28
khnhcan any 1 telll me how to open ports09:28
whazillagoodmornin09:28
SV452@ atk - bum ?09:28
whazillaso i'm still wondering howto mount a lvm with write acces using a live dvd09:28
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atkSV452: a bummer indeed but it isn't run as init service09:29
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SV452@ atk - bum - Boot-Up manager09:30
jbmigelSV452 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=45402609:30
SV452shows what is running and what is not09:30
jbmigelSV452 looks like a solution at the end09:30
SV452@ jbmigel - will check it out ...09:31
SV452my whole thing is to loose my M$ box and only uses ubuntu09:31
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whazillaso nobody ? on howto load lvm in write acces using a live cd ?09:32
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abhinayhow to change the usplash screen from kubuntu to ubuntu ?09:33
sethkwhazilla, if it isn't the root file system, you can chroot and then mount it09:33
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atkSV452: "Boot-Up Manager is graphical tool to allow easy configuration of init services in user and system runlevels" - Like I said, not run as init service. Bum is yet another graphical frontend for /etc/rc?.d09:33
bohemianabhinay,  in synaptic mark ksplash for removal and usplash for reinstallation    (use search to find them)09:34
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niceman2hi09:34
niceman2ubuntu linux sucks09:34
whazillasethk ... isn't the root file ?09:34
jbmigelthats not very nice man09:34
whazillawhat u mean ... like \ mountpoint and kernel ?09:34
sethkwhazilla, if the lvm volume you want to mount is not the root file system of the disk isntallation09:35
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whazillacuz it's just that09:35
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sethkwhazilla, and \ is an escape character09:35
whazilla:$09:35
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dade`who has a macbook here ?09:35
sethkwhazilla, why can't you boot it from the disk?09:35
whazillai can09:35
whazillabut i messed up /etc/environment09:35
usamahi all09:35
sethkwhazilla, then why do you want to mount it from the live cd09:35
whazillaand need to restore that09:35
whazilla... cuz i need a way to restore09:36
usamahow can i make network b/w to PCs?09:36
whazillamy bash is broken paths09:36
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sethkwhazilla, that doesn't matter, you can still run everything by using complete paths09:36
sethkwhazilla, you can mount something and copy /etc/environment in09:36
whazillather not complete09:36
whazillai can't ls cd and so on09:36
jbmigelusama look into samba09:36
sethkwhazilla, you can set your path in the shell09:36
whazillak09:36
whazillaexcport = PATH =09:37
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sethkwhazilla, just get into a shell, and do    export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin09:37
usamajbmigel: no, b/w to linux systems09:37
_petehey everybody whats up09:37
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whazillatyhkx09:37
sethkwhazilla, those four are probably all you need09:37
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jbmigelusama look into nfs09:37
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usamajbmigel: lemme check09:38
_peteanybody have any eperience with this script :  http://rob.pectol.com/myscripts/encryption.sh.txt    ????09:38
Tom_ReinkeHow to I force an application to stop?09:39
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Tom_Reinkelike.. close it09:39
jbmigelctrl-c09:39
_peteim having trouble with the files that creates and usb thumbdrives09:39
Tom_Reinkejbmigel: funny09:39
oferI can not hear any sound althouth the sound card is seem to be set09:39
nosseI have laptop with a really annoying touchpad, how can I disable it?09:40
_peteofer: did you have sound before?09:40
SV452i never thought of ftp09:40
oferno09:40
SV452doesn't synaptic do ftp ?09:40
oferthis is first time I am trying09:40
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jbmigelTom_Reinke you can find it with ps -ae and then kill your app?09:40
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_peteofer: weird, sorry cant really help09:40
Tom_Reinkejbmigel: Oh I thought you told me to use ctrl - c to close it..09:41
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jbmigelctrl-c will close an app running in console09:41
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champ`measureFor some reason I am unable to CD into X11...09:42
Tom_Reinkejbmigel: Ah.. thank you, but it was a GUI app, it worked.09:42
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jbmigelTom_Reinke oh thats good... but i wouldnt count on it all the time09:42
AlienXchamp`measure, the directory is /etc/X11/09:42
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Tom_Reinkejbmigel: It's just that some zip files didn't finish copying from a CD and I accidentally tried to open the half-file with xarchiver.. Making it very very confused.09:43
whazillathkx it's fixed sethk09:43
whazilla:D09:43
jbmigelTom_Reinke patience grasshopper09:44
Tom_Reinkejbmigel: patience is not on my side with 300 mhz09:44
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jbmigelthats awesome that your running this os on that hardware... im so happy for you09:45
champ`measureAlienX: says no such file or directory09:45
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AlienXtype "ls /etc/X11/"09:45
mtholdensscompiz rep is so slow....09:46
AlienXchamp`measure, ^09:46
champ`measurewith the / afterwards?09:46
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AlienXchamp`measure, yes...copy and paste what I typed09:46
AlienXwithout the quotes09:46
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Tom_Reinkejbmigel: Yea, 300 mhz is screamin isn't it? Well, truth is, no windows versions ran well on it, so I decided to give xubuntu a try. So far lots of problems but they're getting resolved.. 1 at a time.09:46
oferwhat is the best way for remote desktop?09:46
niceman2ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: 09:46
knixno wai!09:46
champ`measureno such file or directory09:47
AlienXoooo nalioth...09:47
whazillaniceman u aren't nice at all09:47
AlienXchamp`measure, are you running X?09:47
champ`measuremaybe09:47
AlienXmaybe?09:47
champ`measuredon't know how to turn it off09:48
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jbmigelniceman2 did you have a problem or are you just acting like that cuz your afraid to ask?09:48
hantoowhats the differences of APM and ACPI? :o09:48
AlienXchamp`measure, type the following...without quotes: "dpkg -l xorg"09:48
SV452what is the easiest way to manage your apt/archives for backups ?09:48
AlienXjbmigel, don't feed the trolls09:48
niceman2I HAVE USED LINUX AND WINDOWS AND LINUX BLOWS MONKEY BALLS09:49
jerbbe nice09:49
CheekyBoincCAPSLOCK IS EVIL09:49
SV452hmmm09:49
SV452niceman2: i recon u blow just as good money balls09:49
niceman2the best way to fix ur linux trouble is rm -rf / then install windows09:50
champ`measureNeeds an action option09:50
bchow can i upgrade to kde 3.5.4 for dapper?09:50
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SV452how bout rm -rf /niceman - universe09:50
bcanyone, can help pls09:51
AlienXchamp`measure, action option?09:51
niceman2how bout u sux my cock and swallow my cum09:51
SV452@ niceman2 - i recon u one of those monkeys that like to be spoon fed by M$09:51
hantoobc: what do you want :o09:51
champ`measurethats what it said09:51
niceman2i got klined a while back but im back on freenode im a troll09:51
AlienXchamp`measure, i don't even know what that means, i've never gotten an error like that09:52
SV452u can say that again09:52
bchantoo: i want upgrade my kde 3.5.2 to kde 3.5.409:52
jbmigelbc why?09:53
bchantoo: just want to try09:53
AlienXbc, you'll have to find a repository and edit your sources.list but I am not sure offhand which ones have it.09:53
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bchantoo: does kde 3.5.4 make alot of differences?09:54
AlienXbc, not really09:54
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bcok09:54
knixAnyone know the status of Gnome 2.16? When will it be available in dapper?09:54
RMorris85ok i may need a little help... but i think its time to delete my windows partition :) what are some things i need to worry about?09:54
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jbmigelRMorris85 id be worried about losing your data09:55
niceman2no delete ur linux partition09:55
xopherknix, I doubt it will be ever09:55
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niceman2linux blows09:55
champ`measureHow do I turn off X?09:55
AlienXniceman2, what? no caps?09:55
xopherknix, not a hundred percent sure about their policy though, but edgy is just behind the corner and well, there you go09:55
RMorris85jbmigel: how so? do i just delete that partition and im set or what?09:55
AlienXchamp`measure, /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:55
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hantooare there any decent howto's for making hibernate/suspend work with acpi09:56
jbmigelRMorris85 yes but make sure you have backed up all your important data from that partition first... you cannot get it back09:56
SV452can someone please rm niceman209:56
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AlienXSV452, no ops are around :(09:56
xopher!ops09:56
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niceman2k09:56
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niceman2!09:56
niceman2i heard i was gonna be a op soon09:57
xopherniceman2, could you be kind and fuck off?09:57
RMorris85niceman2: lol listen to what u said... maybe when your intelligence level is above a 4th grader you will appreciate linux09:57
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Madkisshi all;09:57
RMorris85jbmigel: other than backing up what i need will grub catch the changes?09:57
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niceman2linux is for retards that have nothing better to do then fuck with a os09:57
xopherYou should be able to vote kick someone out 09:57
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niceman2i have a life i like to play games and use my computer not fuck with the os09:57
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Boglizkniceman2: With other words, yeah kindof09:57
niceman2no09:57
niceman2don't ban me09:57
Stormscapethem's fightin' words09:57
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SV452so go have ur life nic09:58
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Madkisseww09:58
niceman2don't ban me09:58
jbmigelRMorris85 you will probably want to update your menu.lst for grub to not show the windows option anymore09:58
Madkissniceman2: What are you up to?09:58
xopheraww09:58
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Stormscapelol09:58
Stormscapehigh five09:58
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SV452finaly09:58
Bennedettoallo everyone, i've just got a quick question here.  I have a laptop with an i810, and i would like to use xgl. is it better supported in Edgy Eft or should i stick with dapper09:58
SV452thanx09:58
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AlienXimbrandon, probably should just ban the guy09:58
Madkissimbrandon: Err. I could have ... well .. released him from his pain09:58
BoglizkI'm trying to decide which font to use on irssi, any suggestions?09:58
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Boglizkin*09:58
fyrestrtrBennedetto: you should use aiglx, and stick with dapper. Edgy is not for general use.09:59
hantooartwiz gelly!09:59
hantoo;p09:59
xopherBennedetto, well Id put edgy on it, but Im suicidal too ;) Its more likely to work with dapper still09:59
Bennedettoalrighty09:59
Boglizkohh.. i havn't installed the artwiz fonts09:59
Bennedettoaiglx, i was checking out the wiki for it, and it doesnt mention any intel video cards being supported09:59
Boglizkbrb.. i'll do that09:59
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RMorris85jbmigel: after that i plan on using vmware server with win2kpro, what type of partition should i make the the old one?09:59
xopherBennedetto, but one benefit of edgy over dapper though, aiglx is installed by default so its 'a lot' easier to enable it09:59
DeeahWhere can I get an icon pack with extra icons? Like the trademarked firefox icon etc10:00
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Bennedettoyeah, i have no problem installing aiglx if it supports my hardware10:00
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fyrestrtrDeeah: gnome-look.org10:00
xopherBennedetto, ultimately its all about if you can live with it breaking a few times until edgy is released10:00
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xopherHope you're confused ;)10:00
jbmigelRMorris85 if make it fat32 then you will be happy later cuz anything can write to it10:00
Bennedettoxopher: well, if there isnt a large benefit with running it, id rather run a more stable version10:01
Bennedettobut yes, still, i would like to know if aiglx supports intel video cards10:01
RMorris85jbmigel: what should i do to redo the partition? the ubuntu live cd?10:01
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xopherBennedetto, join #ubuntu-xgl and ask there10:01
Bennedettoalrighty, thanks10:02
jbmigelRMorris85 just use fdisk... delete the old partition, create a new one10:02
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jbmigelRMorris85 please make sure you have properly backed up your system before messing with your partitions10:03
RMorris85as in my ubuntu?10:03
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therienyeah basically...  this OS is rad.10:03
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jbmigelRMorris85 as in put anything you cant afford to lose on a disk not plugged into your computer10:04
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RMorris85jbmigel: lol good call... imma back it up online :)10:04
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jbmigelRMorris85 that is a fantastic idea... personally i have a usb harddrive10:05
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RMorris85jbmigel: i wish i had one... but unfortunately i don't have one big enough for what i need... no dvd burner either... i am going to get me one of those 3.5" hd cases that turn it into a usb drive... i have like 5 spare xbox hd's i can store stuff on10:07
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rsshi, I installed Ubuntu 64bit on AMD Sempron 64Bit processor machine, gdm is started and when I login only the brown screen with a cursor comes up. GNOME doesn't10:07
Schalkencome up?10:08
jbmigelRMorris85 ya thats what i bought one of them 3.5 hdd cases... it was like $20 or something they are totally worth it10:08
RMorris85jbmigel: ebay?10:08
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RMorris85lol10:08
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phyburn_Hey I am having troubles with installing. The install can't find my SATA drive I am using the newest installer/10:09
jbmigelRMorris85 no you can just buy the case and put your own hdd in them then they are cheap10:09
rssafter logging in, the brown screen(which is usually the background of the splash screen) comes and nothing else10:09
rssthe cursor is moving10:09
Schalkenhow do i restore grub after i reinstall windows?10:09
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RMorris85jbmigel: yea thats what im talking about... where did u get the case from?10:09
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rogue_boyhello10:09
phyburn_Hey I am having troubles with installing. The install can't find my SATA drive I am using the newest installer/10:09
jbmigelRMorris85 im in canada i ordered from ncix.com what country you in?10:09
RMorris85jbmigel: the greatest one in the worllddd... right below u10:10
oferthe internet connection is disconnected and I need to set up everytime the dns and run pppoeconf how it is possible to save the information?10:10
RMorris85lol10:10
Schalkenphyburn_: do you know that it works?10:10
rssIs there any similar precedent for my problem?10:10
jbmigelRMorris85 you mean australia?10:10
phyburn_Scalken: yes becuase my windows is using half of it10:11
phyburn_Scalken: it's already partitioned10:11
bchow can i setting my Ip with console10:11
bcip address, iptables10:11
jbmigelbc man ifconfig10:11
bccause i have two network card, 'n i want make a router10:11
RMorris85jbmigel: lol yeah i feel ya... i love the usa but i dont agree with everything we stand for.. but heh im not complaining10:11
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bcwhat should i do first10:12
Schalkenphyburn_: i have a ubuntu on my sata hdd. perhaps yours isnt supported by ubuntu's driver?10:12
jbmigelRMorris85 ya you guys are ok... i think you can get a good hdd case at newegg10:12
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rssafter loggin' in through GDM, GNOME is not starting, it is a onboard gfx card(but gdm is showing and X is working)10:12
GibbsterHello. I can't find my network printer via avahi-browse. Anyone have any idea why?10:12
Gibbsteravahi-discover, rather10:13
SchalkenRMorris85: jbmigel: lets keep it on topic.10:13
rogue_boybcmwl510:13
rsswhile booting up, something says "dma not enabled"10:13
KurtKrautThe years has passed but I cant stop enjoying listen to 'Thriller' from Michael Jackson10:13
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rssis that a problem?10:13
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bcjbmigel : can u help me10:13
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Agnihi all10:13
RMorris85Schalken: and what exactly is the topic? and if u were in our whole convo u would realize its on topic... u topic nazi10:13
Agniany X gurus around?10:13
Schalkenrss: possibly, but it would usually mean that it would just run slow rather than not run at all.10:14
phyburn_Hey I am having troubles with installing. The install can't find my SATA drive I am using the newest installer...10:14
jbmigelbc what you want to do takes alot of time10:14
SchalkenRMorris85: lol10:14
rogue_boyany way to make my windows see my ubuntu partition in a dual boot notebook pc?10:14
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phyburn_it hangs at mounting the root file system10:14
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KurtKrautphyburn_, have you check you ubuntuforums.org for further details ?10:14
rssSchalken: it is not coming at all10:14
juriso i tried switching to upstart on edgy, with the result that my keyboard stopped working after i logged in via gdm10:15
GibbsterAnyone have any experience setting up zeroconf printers in ubuntu?10:15
RMorris85Schalken: :) we only got off topic for a sec... i had to rep on the usa10:15
juritried booting two times, with the same result, then downgraded to sysvinit and everything works fine10:15
juriis this a known problem?10:15
phyburn_KurtKraut: Yes I have10:15
jbmigelbc start by reading this maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11197210:15
rssAgni: just ask your query, if anyone is aware of that they will answer10:15
bcjbmigel, i'll try thanks10:15
BlackWoxs_rogue_boy have a look at http://www.fs-driver.org/10:16
Arcad1a link to a "how to" topic configure apache to be accesible via internet EX:/www.i-have-dns.com10:16
Arcad1??10:16
noname_..10:16
rogue_boyis it free BlackWoxs?10:17
BlackWoxs_certainly is and works well10:17
rogue_boyi am new to linux sorta but i'm no n00b10:17
fooHm, I am getting a "could not open default font 'fixed'" trying to startx. Just kidding.10:17
champ`measureHow do I stop X?10:17
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rogue_boymy roomie tried to install vmware last night but i got pissed and removed it and ubuntu10:17
Schalkenjuri: search the edgy bugs. if you cant find one that is what happened to you post a new one. a dev will remove it if it is a duplicate.10:17
rogue_boyand redid it tonight10:17
foochamp`measure: ctrl+alt+backspace10:17
noname_i can't install plugin10:18
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abhinayno change in font even though i change in System > Preferences > Fonts , wt ?10:18
fooHm, I am getting a "could not open default font 'fixed'" trying to startx.10:18
fooer, not just kidding10:18
fooI did apt-cache search10:18
fooNo luck10:18
foobah.10:18
juriSchalken: yeah, i guess i'll take a better look. there were no relevant upstart bugs, but that's such a weird problem it's hard to pinpoint the source10:18
cafuegofoo: xfonts-base10:19
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foocafuego: bah, thanks. Why didn't apt-cache search fixed return that10:19
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Schalkenjuri: true. just select unkown package and the bugsquad will have a look10:19
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cafuegofoo: Coz it's not in the package name/description.10:20
cafuegofoo: You should be installing x-window-system-core anyway.10:20
rogue_boythankyou BlackWoxs_10:20
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Agnihi all10:21
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foocafuego: ah. ok. startx works ... I can get into fluxbox. Do I still need x-window-system-core? I think apt-get install fluxbox might have installed it10:21
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cafuegoWell, it won't hurt.10:21
Agniam having some X server problems, especially i installed bastille10:21
squeedoes anyone know a command so i can find out what chipset is in my wireless card?10:21
Agnii uninstalled bastilled after restoring my system10:22
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treittersquee: do you know which interface name it has? (like "eth1" or "ath0")10:22
jbmigelsquee try dmesg | grep wlan010:22
Agnibut my X wont restart .. it juist keeps trying to get into my gui mode over and over10:22
squeeeth110:22
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noname_can ubuntu restore?10:23
Arcad3does anyone knows how to http://example.com to work like www.example.com?10:23
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Arcad3*make10:23
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treittersquee: or "dmesg | grep -i wireless"10:23
pschulz01noname_: How do you mean?10:23
squeejbmigel: i used eth1 instead but it spat out a whole bunch of things like "device eth1 entered promiscuous mode" and that it left it10:23
treittersquee: and try replacing 'wireless' with '802.11' in that chain10:24
abhinayeventhough i change the fonts, nothing happens, anybody help plz ?10:24
noname_i want to restore10:24
jbmigelnoname_ did you backup?10:24
noname_yes10:25
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noname_how i do?10:25
squee"ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection"10:25
Agnisorry to be a pain folks, but any gurus around?10:25
jbmigelnoname_ what did you use for backup10:25
rogue_boybrb10:25
Agnii am having difficulties with my X10:26
KurtKrautAgni, have you tried to ask for help thru ubuntuforums.org ? It might be easier than repeating over and over again here.10:26
noname_i install kubuntu but i dont like it10:26
Agniyes :(10:26
Agnii have spent almost a day trolling through posts10:26
Lynourenoname_: Then remove it?10:26
noname_how?10:26
Arcad3Agni sudo-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:27
AgniKurtKraut, the strange thing is that it starts when i run startx in restore mode10:27
Lynourenoname_: singleboot or dualboot?10:27
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noname_single10:27
KurtKrautAgni, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as Arcad3 tried to mention10:27
Agniok, will try and be back10:27
Lynourenoname_: by installing something you like, then10:27
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Lynourenoname_: no special things to it, if there is nothing in it you want to keep10:28
mtholdensswhen edgy is released is upgrading easy?10:29
mtholdensswill it auto ask if we want to upgrade?10:29
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jbmigelapt-get dist-upgrade10:29
KurtKrautmtholdenss, yes10:29
mtholdenssso it will auto ask?10:30
livingdaylightCan someone help me reinstall Grub? I've got two satas. Ubuntu on sda and Zenwalk which i installed yesterday on sdb. Howver, i can't access ubuntu on sda now. Looks like Lilo has killed Grub. I want help reinstalling Grub and deleting Lilo10:30
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noname_i just to know can xserever do like xp10:30
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KurtKrautmtholdenss, I can't remeber for sure but a single command will make him notice that is a new version and will manage everything to you thru windows10:30
Schalkenlivingdaylight: i would also like to know the answer to your question for the purpose of reinstalling windows :P10:30
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livingdaylightadministrator: hi, i really do have a question this time for you :-P10:32
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jbmigelmtholdenss /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda10:33
Lynourenoname_: Ask again? (If that was a question)10:33
jbmigelmtholdenss sudo even10:33
Flannellivingdaylight: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:33
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mtholdenssjbmigel what u mean?10:34
noname_can i restore my system?10:34
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livingdaylightFlannel: this would be after installing Zenwalk, but the same applies, yea? Can i have the url please?10:34
mtholdensswhy would u want to restore your system? what happened?10:34
SV452how can i have a diff pic as backgroun for each desktop?10:34
KurtKrautSV452, thru gnome ? you cant10:35
jbmigelmtholdenss at command line type "man grub-install"10:35
marcel__i got a sound problem normally my sound works just fine but from time to time i have no sound (i can solve this by rebooting) does anyone know what the problem might be?10:35
Flannellivingdaylight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  -- yeah, obviously not the windows specific stuff.10:35
mtholdenssjbmigel what would that do?10:35
SV452noooooooo -10:35
KurtKrautSV452, there is a app that will change the current desktop when you change from workplace10:35
SV452tell more10:35
jbmigelmtholdenss it will display the man page for the grub-install program10:35
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mtholdenssy cant u do that in gnome , have diff wallpaper for diff workspace, what about on a certain timer change wallapaper?10:35
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ArinomiHi all \o I am kinda new to having other OS than Windows, so I am a bit unsure.. do I need to uninstall Windows XP to get this to work?10:36
KurtKrautSV452, it may create the effect you want but it still a 'hack'. It wont be good in a weak machine10:36
SV452u can do that10:36
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SV452hmmmm10:36
fooI do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?10:36
SV452i'll give it a try10:36
SV452i remember kde u can do the diff background thing ?10:36
jbmigelArinomi you dont need to remove windows.10:36
piratepenguinwhat the hell password am I supposed to enter in localhost:631 to add my HP printer?10:36
Flannel!tell Arinomi about dualboot10:36
KurtKrautArinomi, no. You cant keep what we call dual boot. When you install Ubuntu he will notice Windows imediately and when you turn you computer it will ask what system I want to start10:36
mtholdenssso how can u chang wallpaper on a timer basis?10:36
mtholdenssin gnome10:36
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marcel__my sound doesnt work anymore could someone help me?10:37
marcel__!sound10:37
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems10:37
SV452i used to have a proggy for that10:37
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SV452i used it when i used slackware10:37
KurtKrautSV452, I cant say about KDE. I'm a Gnome fan :P But I miss that feature too.10:37
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Markihey, i found the solution to my problem on a forum and now i just want to know how to do it!10:38
SV452i know kde used to do it cause i used kde for sometime before i discovered the pleasure of gnome and even more so the pleasure of dropline gnome for slackware10:38
CorpseFeederbohemian: I can't find that #sajdsewhatever channel in the channel list10:38
fooI do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?10:38
RMorris85jbmigel: hey is it possible to make a fat32 partition to move my files to then make my windows a fat32 also?10:38
MarkiI figured out my problem. I didn't format my home partition and it kept all my setting from before the upgrade and something in there was conflicting with the upgraded version. I simply created a new user, logged in with them and copied its settings over to my old user10:38
BHSPitLappyCorpseFeeder, #sajdhf10:39
jbmigelRMorris85 the only way i can see that working is if you reinstall windows as fat32, then put on linux whereever you like10:40
CorpseFeederthanks10:40
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fooI do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?10:41
foowhoops10:41
RMorris85jbmigel: i have to partitions right now and on the one windows is on i have like 10 gig free and i wanna to make a 3 gig fat32 for holding files for now with some of that room, then delete my windows partition, then make it a fat32 is that possible?10:41
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RMorris85two*10:42
Markihow do i disable all my proxy settings globally?10:42
KurtKrautArinomi, how big is your RAM ?10:42
Arinomi1g10:42
jbmigelmtholdenss it will display the man page for the grub-ins10:42
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KurtKrautArinomi, do you intend to install it over a PC or a Mac ?10:43
ArinomiPC10:43
KurtKrautArinomi, download de Desktop CD10:43
ArinomiOkey. Thanks10:43
KurtKrautArinomi, www.ubuntu.com10:43
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errorhello10:43
KurtKrautArinomi, www.ubuntu.com/download (sorry)10:43
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KurtKrautArinomi, Desktop CD for i386 actually10:43
jbmigelRMorris85 ah i see what your getting at... I think you can cheat to accomplish that... try running the ubuntu installer again and tell it to use part (3gb) of your windows drive and it will fix it10:43
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ArinomiKurtKraut, I downloaded it last night :)10:44
jbmigelRMorris85 then reformat that new partiton as fat3210:44
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RMorris85with the live cd correct?10:44
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KurtKrautArinomi, so just burn the image (not the file itself)  to a CD10:44
KurtKrautArinomi, and reboot your PC10:44
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BoglizkI cant get the artwiz fonts to work.. :/10:45
ArinomiKurtKraut, will do.10:45
jbmigelRMorris85 yes, another way would be to boot into windows and use partitionmagic to resize windows and create a fat disk10:45
kklaineHelp! My nvidia driver stopped working and if I try to use the nv setting gdm system totally crashes in less than a minute :(10:46
Netcadhow to configure vhost based named dir?10:46
RMorris85jbmigel: boot into windows, har har har. id rather use the live cd... just use the disk manager correct? then just boot back out and i should have 3 drives correct?10:46
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Arcad3pls help10:48
jbmigelRMorris85 yes if you tell it to install using part of your windows drive it should resize it for you... then you will have 3 and could reformat one to fat3210:48
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Arcad3prob here10:48
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jbmigelRMorris85 you still should backup first though...10:48
RMorris85jbmigel: then just exit out of the installer? or use gparted?10:48
Arcad3my site cannot be acessed via internet EX;www.my-site.co10:48
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ArinomiBurn, baby, burn ^^10:49
AdamHi. How do I remove all trace of Vim from Dapper?10:49
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Arcad3any how to..10:49
jbmigelRMorris85 you know i never tried to exit the installer when its resizing windows... probably will destroy all your data... i would be very careful.10:49
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RMorris85jbmigel: thats what i was thinking... should i just use the partition magic?10:50
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AdamI tried "apt-get --purge remove vim.*", and apt said it was going to remove ubuntu-base* and ubuntu-minimal*, which doesn't appear to be a good idea...10:50
SchalkenAdam: in senaptic select 'remove completely'10:50
jbmigelRMorris85 If you have partitionmagic i would use that, it is safe and meant for such things10:50
RMorris85jbmigel: i was wondering how its going to differenciate between the data on the drive...10:51
RMorris85ok ill boot into windows and try that10:51
RMorris85:-(10:51
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jbmigelRMorris85 sorry i dont understand your differenciate question... everything should have its own partition10:51
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AdamSchalken, shouldn't "apt-get --purge remove vim.*" be better?10:51
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SchalkenAdam: not sure what that does,10:52
AdamSchalken, essentially the same, except it appears to remove packages of which Vim is a part.10:52
siouxhi people i have a problem with my usb port on my laptop. each usb device that i connect works for a while and than crash all the system a so bad crash that i must switch off the laptop10:53
SchalkenAdam: do you mean which depend on vim?10:53
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AdamSchalken, yes.10:53
Adamok, I'll just use Synaptic10:53
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Adamoh, hm. Synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-base and -minimal too...10:54
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Adamcan I remove those packages?  or will it break something?10:54
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jbmigelAdam ubuntu-base sounds kinda usefull10:55
jbmigel8)10:55
Adamjbmigel, yeah. like, "basic" ;)10:56
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Adamanyways, how do I install gvim7?10:56
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Adam(on Dapper) tell me that and I'll be happy. it really shouldn't be that hard...10:56
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HazarathConnected new hard drive, formatted to ext3, not can't seem to mount it for writing.10:56
Hazarath^now10:56
siouxwhohelpme to fix a usb port problem on my laptop? :-)10:57
Schalkensioux: best post in the forums. nothing obvious comes to mind.10:57
kklaineHelp me.. there's a door in my apartment that won't open.. pushing won't work. Any ideas?10:57
CheekyBoincubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal are Metapackages ! Read the Package description ;)10:57
HazarathHow do I mount my new hard drive?10:58
jbmigelkklaine i suggest pushing harder10:58
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HazarathSledge works too.10:59
siouxschalken the fact is once connected a usb device it works for a while and than all the system crash, no error logs or something like that10:59
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kklaineI tried kicking and everything - nothing happens10:59
Hazarathkklaine, you are not playing, are ya?10:59
jbmigelkklaine it is hopeless... try windows10:59
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emergentHazarath: "mount /dev/<harddrive> <mountpoint>"11:00
kklaineSeriously though - can anyone help with my nvidia problem? :)11:00
siouxkklaine go on11:00
emergentkklaine: whats the problem?11:00
kklaine<kklaine> Help! My nvidia driver stopped working and if I try to use the nv setting gdm system totally crashes in less than a minute :(11:01
PathagenXis there no XV in the repos?11:01
Adamif I intend to use lots of KDE applications, does it make sense for me to use the standard Ubuntu?  should I get KUbuntu instead?11:01
emergenttried reinstalling the nvidia-glx package?11:01
emergentdid you use the drivers from nvidia.com or from apt11:02
justin_Adam: Umm.. Linux apps are interchangeble.. except for system stuff11:02
justin_Adam: It does not matter, KDE/GNOME are simply .. window designs..11:02
Adamjustin_, yeah, I'm just having some problems with some of my KDE applications11:02
jbmigeladam11:02
kklaineI installed it with the ubuntuforums guide (apt). Then one day it stopped working.. I reinstalled it but that didn't help11:02
Adamjustin_, for example, Amarok won't open links in the web browser.11:03
justin_Adam: So if you have problems, go Kbuntu - use what works for you thats all ;D thats the whole point of Linux in the first place hehe.11:03
justin_Adam: Simply an option issue11:03
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justin_It is probably looking for Konq, and cant find it11:03
siouxkklaine did you install kernel-headers11:03
Adamjustin_, yup, that might be it.11:03
kklainesioux: Yeah11:03
Adamstill less nice than working by default.11:03
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Hazarathemergent, 'mount: you must specify the filesystem type'11:03
frogzooAdam: whichever you prefer, but it takes extra disk for both libraries11:03
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siouxkk ok what kind of crash you get11:04
justin_The only KDE specific program I have ever had trouble with in another window manager was KGPG..11:04
Adamfrogzoo, yeah, I noticed, though it's minor.11:04
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bobbyok i am on my ubuntu load now11:04
bobbyor partition11:04
justin_But then I figured out it was my video driver :P11:04
shadeofgreyis there a stable version of ubuntu that runs on a intel mac?11:04
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kklainegdm fails to start and I think it sais something like nvidia module doesn't exist11:05
justin_Does Synaptic have L.A.M.P?11:05
FoxHunterbye11:05
justin_Or do I need to install piece by piece through synaptic/11:06
justin_?11:06
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bobbywhen i get to a page like this which one do i download?11:06
bobbyhttp://guifications.sourceforge.net/downloads.php11:06
emergentHazarath: you shouldn't have to if it's ext3, but the flag would be "mount -t <fstype> /dev/<drive> <mountpoint>"11:06
kklaineThe nv setting makes weird white dots and "fog" on the screen and after a while, freezes totally. And no, I'm not on LSD11:06
justin_bobby: Does not matter, they are simply mirrors of the exact same file.11:06
emergentkklaine: I'm getting the exact same thing11:07
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kklaineemergent: Has it just recently started happening?11:07
emergenteverything in ubuntu works like a dream, except the nvidia drivers11:07
justin_kklaine: The white spots and black screen are normal - and it may take up to 10 minutes to load GDM at times.11:07
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Hazarathemergent, 'mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /home/hazarath/HazExtra6GB busy'11:07
emergentwell, I just yesterday migrated from freebsd on my laptop since ubuntu has better wireless support11:07
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justin_Sometimes my GDM starts up in seconds, sometimes in minutes...11:08
emergentkklaine: so yes =] 11:08
rogue_boyi cannot for the like of me get wifi working or the rotating cube for the workstations11:08
siouxpeople do you know if there are some issuee about usb port for laptop with ubuntu?11:08
emergentHazarath: should be in "/media" then11:09
kklaineI never got the white spots and black before - until a few days ago11:09
justin_sioux: Ubuntu is not friendly to USB 1.0 .. thats about it11:09
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justin_If you have USB 2.0' you should not see any problems, but 1.0 does have its problems once in a while.11:09
JonnytheRipperis the "ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso" the standard version for normal pc's ?11:09
rogue_boylucky i have USB 2.011:09
frogzoojustin_: linux does usb 1.0 just fine, only depends on the chipset drivers11:09
siouxI think my laptop has usb 1.0 it is dell C600 PIII11:10
justin_frogzoo: Yeah well it is longer to explain it that way.11:10
emergentkklaine: one thing i noticed is when I install nvidia-glx, I can just edit the driver setting in xorg.conf to 'nvidia', restart X and I get the splash...everything's fine. It's not until I reboot that I get the error11:10
Hazarathemergent, Ok, that's odd... it's working, just didn't expect it to be a folder, but a drive.11:10
frogzoojustin_: cool11:10
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emergentHazarath: =] 11:11
kklaineemergent: Gotta try that ->11:11
rogue_boyi only need to get my wifi working so i can disconnect from the livingroom ethernet cable and go into my room11:11
siouxdo you know if there are some fixing for usb 1.011:11
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emergentkklaine: another thing is when i reboot, you know that 'no module found' error in that 'fog' error - i found out that the glx driver was no longer installed for some reason11:12
HazarathReminds me... I get another error suddenly on my system... I'll like, be watching a film, and the next thing I know, Gnome goes crazy, it says stuff like 'gnome-panel has shut down un-expectantly', and 'I've noticed that that app is already running, I will not halt this' [Or somethnig to that extent] .11:12
emergentkklaine: so I had to reinstall the glx driver - it's so strange.11:12
rogue_boyi need to get my bcmwl5.inf woring so that my wifi works11:13
siouxfrogzoo I have a dell PIII it could give problem with ubuntu?11:13
emergentHazarath: quit watching so much p0rn =P haha j/k i'm not fully up to speed with ubuntu since I've been a freebsd user for so long =] 11:14
rogue_boyacer aspire 5004 wlmi is my notebook and i wrote a review on it that i can link to11:14
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Hazarathemergent, it was SG1, actually. :p11:14
emergentHazarath: but it could be a dep that you're missing11:14
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Adamok, suppose I want to create a .deb file from some source release (Vim7). what should I google for?11:14
justin_sioux: Naw, maybe your 1.0 usb, but other then that PIII's are rugged enough for Ubuntu.11:14
emergentHazarath: or some of the software you're using is of the "unstable" breed11:15
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siouxjustin hummm  that looks like a ubuntu problem not kernel problem rights? so may be other distro should be ok rights?11:16
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Humpty-Dumpty please help I would like to use noteedit but it's using /dev/snd/seq device whitch is not exist. How can I create this device using alsa?11:16
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kklaineemergent: Oh yeah? I'll check it out11:17
Hazarathemergent, So, it's not the Gnome shell, or something?11:17
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kklaineIt says "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module" when I try to reboot11:17
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justin_sioux: No its a chipset problem, so its really a hardware issue.11:17
emergentkklaine: I'm going to reboot and give everything another go-over11:17
justin_sioux: USB 1.0 has problems with Windows also depending on what chipset you have.11:17
emergentkklaine: yup, that's what mine says11:17
kklaineI still do have nvidia-glx-legaxy installed though11:18
mtholdensswhats the terminal script to install xserver-xgl  ?11:18
siouxjustin well this laptop on w2k is okthe usb device works ok11:18
emergentHazarath: the terminal is pretty stable I think11:18
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emergentkklaine: the answer is around here somewhere, brb11:19
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molkkowhen apt-get installing there are suggested and recommended packages. what are they? whats the difference between the two?11:19
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siouxkklaine if i well remember nvidia should also have a proprietary installer something like nvidia-installer11:20
siouxkklaine that installer works with x down11:20
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fyrestrtrmolkko: other pacakges that might be useful for the app you are installing. For example, documentation packages.11:21
kklainesioux: How do I install that?11:21
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kklaineCouldn't find it on apt11:21
siouxkklaine just go to www.nvidia.com and follow the instruction11:21
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molkkofyrestrtr, and whats the difference between "suggested" and "recommended"?11:22
kklaineOh, OK. I'll try it, thanks11:22
gnomefreakkklaine: nvidia-glx is in the multiverse repo11:22
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mtholdensswhats the diff between sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl and apt-get install xserver-xgl  ...11:23
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frying_fishmtholdenss: if you aren't already root, then you will need to use sudo11:23
gnomefreakmtholdenss: you need to do it as "root" and sudo allows you to do that11:23
frying_fishand that will only work if you have sudo permissions.11:23
mtholdensshow do i know if im root?11:23
gnomefreakdoes the command promtp have a # or a $11:24
frying_fishyou're on a terminal right.. there should be a # at the end of the line if you are as root currently11:24
frying_fishor whoami may help11:24
siouxmtholdenss you are never root with ubuntu11:24
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frying_fishsioux: thats a lie.11:24
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mtholdenssi have $11:24
cafuegosioux: 'sudo -s' says otherwise11:24
Ackeubu__heeey, .. i have 3 primaries partitions. and I am working with my fourths partition. do i need to format it to make it an extended partition?? I would prefer not. but....11:24
frying_fishmtholdenss: then you are a regular user currently11:24
siouxif you wont be try sudo -s11:24
frying_fishcafuego: indeed11:24
mtholdenssok thanks much11:24
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cafuegomtholdenss: You can always type 'whoami'11:24
frying_fishor sudo -i11:24
frying_fishor sudo su11:25
frying_fishmany options to get a root shell going11:25
gnomefreaksudo - should work too :)11:25
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cafuegoYes. vmlinuz init=/bin/bash11:25
emergentkklaine: uhm...well...it's working now <blink> <blink>11:25
siouxyes but sudo and than the command is also ok11:25
cafuegognomefreak: nope11:25
frying_fishif you only want to perform the one command yes.11:25
gnomefreakno?11:25
cafuegognomefreak: Try && see :-)11:25
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frying_fishgnomefreak: you get a usage.11:25
zutmeExcuse me, could someone please tell me how to set the vsync when booting the livecd. Whenever x tries to start my monitor says ivalid frequency so I'm guessing this is the problem11:26
kklaineemergent: OK, good for you :)11:26
emergentkklaine: not sure dude, but I didn't install nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings this time around so that might have something to do with it11:26
gnomefreakhmmmmm thats not a good thing (ok ty now i just need remeber to email someone)11:26
gnomefreakemergent: on dapper you dont have to11:26
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emergentgnomefreak: and it may break the driver if they are installed it seems11:27
gnomefreakemergent: it will remove the driver if installed11:27
emergentgnomefreak: ah11:27
gnomefreakemergent: all you need is nvidia-glx for nvidia to work11:27
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mtholdensslast time i followed something it screwed up so im only following official ubuntu wikis11:27
gnomefreakplus restricted modules package11:28
cafuegognomefreak: linux-restricted-drivers-$(uname -r)11:28
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emergentgnomefreak: that must have been it - the first time I tried, I believe I installed the xconfig as well11:28
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emergentkklaine: have either of those packages installed?11:28
gnomefreakcafuego: i added it  its still bc here (bc = before coffee)11:28
eegorehere is a something I had to do to get dvd's to play proplerly. I had to soft link libdvdcss.so.2.0.8 to a link named libdvdcss.so. Is that normal?11:28
frying_fishgnomefreak: lol, what times is it where you are11:28
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gnomefreak5:30 am11:29
kklaineemergent: Yeah I have settings and xconfig apparently11:29
frying_fisheast coast us?11:29
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frying_fishand thats quite early to be up,11:29
gnomefreakyep :)11:29
frying_fishahh so you have a reason.11:29
Ackeubu__Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh how do i make it an extended partition.....11:29
frying_fishits 10.30 for me (UK)11:29
frying_fishAckeubu__: using?11:29
kklaineemergent: Should I remove them?11:29
emergentkklaine: just apt-get the glx driver then and it should uninstall the settings and xconfig11:29
Ackeubu__frying_fish: gparted11:29
gnomefreakbrb coffee11:30
Ackeubu__frying_fish: i have 26gb free unallocated11:30
frying_fishAckeubu__: it might show as an option, I only really know that you can do it with fdisk11:30
kklaineglx instead of glx-legacy?11:30
frying_fishhaven't tried gparted11:30
siouxkklaine is better if you adde --purge11:30
emergentkklaine: what card are you running?11:30
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eegoreDid they fix that bug in the newest xorg that does not play nice with the NVidia driver?11:30
kklaineemergent: Geforce2 Ti11:30
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Ackeubu__frying_fish: i have 2 fat32 drives and another extended drive. and then the 26gb unallocated11:30
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zutmedoes anyone know if you can change the vsync that you boot with on the livecd?11:31
frying_fishyou might need to have that 26gb in the extended area11:31
Ackeubu__frying_fish: i cant just have 1 extended right!!!!11:31
emergentkklaine: probably legacy then - there's apparently a list of cards supported by the regular driver in that unofficial wiki11:31
cafuegoAckeubu__: Of course you can.11:31
eegoreI had to down grade xorg from it in order to get xserver running again11:31
pilpihi. in order for a group member to be capable to 'cd' to a directory owned by the group, does he also have to have access to the parent directories?11:31
emergentkklaine: you could always try both, right? =] 11:31
frying_fishthe way I have mine laid out is 1 primary, and the rest are all inside an extended partition, windows was the only thing that needed to be on a primary.11:31
kklaineemergent: Yeah I suppose :)11:31
Ackeubu__cafuego: i can have more then one.11:32
Ackeubu__cafuego: right?!11:32
cafuegoAckeubu__: Yes.11:32
Ackeubu__$%(%&E#$($% gparted......11:32
cafuegoAckeubu__: As long as you create at least one logicla aprtition, you can have up to (um 32?) extendeds in that, yes.11:33
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Ackeubu__cafuego: when i choose new. in the gparted menu. the only option i get is primary. I cant pick logical or extended..11:33
cafuegoAckeubu__: That's annoying. /me would just use 'fdisk'.11:34
frying_fishyeah, fdisk would be a better idea Ackeubu__11:34
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Ackeubu__cafuego: aye. i tried sudo fdisk /dev/hda. and it said inable to open /dev/hda11:35
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mcphailpilpi: yes, you need access to the parents11:35
Ackeubu__its in use. and cant be opended?11:35
frying_fishodd11:35
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cafuegoAckeubu__: Boot from livecd11:35
frying_fishI could get at mine and its my only one11:35
Ackeubu__aye...11:35
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cafuegoor better yet, install cd and flip to tty2 after the disks have been detected11:35
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zutmeIs there a way to force the livecd to use a certain vsync?11:36
rogue_boyok i got some functionality of wifi on my ACER11:36
Ackeubu__rogue_boy: what acer do you have?11:36
rogue_boyaspire 5004 wlmi11:37
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cafuegorogue_boy: What does 'lspci' say about the wifi chip?11:37
Ackeubu__rogue_boy: okay. with  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG11:37
Ackeubu__?11:38
fyrestrtrzutme: choose the safe graphics mode from the startup menu,11:38
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rogue_boyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=wifi+bcmwl5.inf11:38
zutmei already tried that and it did the same thing. now i am thinking it may be because I have dual monitors11:38
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zutmefor some reason its piutting it on 59hz which i dont think my monitor can support11:39
kklaineOK gotta visit my dad at the hospital, I'll get back to this later ->11:39
rogue_boythis is mine11:39
rogue_boyhttp://www.notebookforums.com/thread173001.html11:39
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Ackeubu__cafuego: would it do the trick booting into the rescue root mode?11:41
eegoreis there a way to increase the mouse sampling rate in XORG11:42
cafuegoAckeubu__: You'll be able to make the changes, but would then need to reboot again to make the kernel see those changes.11:43
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Ackeubu__cafuego: okay11:44
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Yjlatfigli di puttana11:45
Yjlatsi muore dalla puzza11:45
Yjlatqui11:45
rogue_boygrrrrrrrr11:45
Yjlatce puzza11:45
Yjlatsapete perch?11:45
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yerethhi all11:45
Yjlatperche siete tutti pezzi di merda11:45
rogue_boyanyone here know how to help me with my wifi card to get it to work?11:45
rogue_boyhttp://www.notebookforums.com/thread173001.html11:45
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yerethI've done a dist-upgrade yesterday running dapper with backports and now all of a sudden I see snow in opengl games.. a lot of colourful snow through the rendering of the screen11:46
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yerethanybody has any idea what it could be?11:46
yerethOr perhaps someone can tell me where I can find the history of apt?11:47
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drazet11:47
emergentyereth: wikipedia?11:47
drazet11:47
yerethemergent: ?11:47
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yerethemergent: ah, that was a bad joke11:48
yerethemergent: do you have any real suggestions?11:48
frying_fishpastebin11:49
frying_fish!pastebin11:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:49
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emergentyereth: you asked for the history of apt, so I was under the impression that it was a real suggestion =] 11:50
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emergentyereth: in answer to the later remark: no.11:50
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yerethemergent: ok.. I'll be more specific (thought you would understand from my previous remark).. I need the installation history of apt so that I can figure out what upgrade ruined my opengl rendering11:51
yereth:)11:51
era86anyone in here get their counterstrike to work :)11:51
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yerethera86: I got quake3 working :)11:52
era86nice11:52
cafuegoyereth: There isn't one if you used 'apt-get'.11:52
era86i am dling cs right now11:52
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yerethcafuego: I used apt-get... :(11:52
sagarpi have a linux installed in vmware...i can install it on an empty partition using qemu to convert the vmware disk image and then cat that image into the partition...but does the partition have to be the same size as the image? can i cat a small image into a larger partition?11:52
yerethera86: quake3 with Urban Terror is way cooler :)11:52
era86yereth: haha ill stick to getting this to work first11:53
yerethera86: your loss ;)11:53
yerethera86: good luck with it though :)11:53
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lupine_85sagarp: you can put the image into a larger partition11:53
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lupine_85you just won't be able to use the extra space unless you do a resize11:54
Nilvioenyone know something program in ubuntu where i can record mouse move and clicking and then replay it ?11:54
sagarplupine_85, will i need to expand it or something?11:54
sagarpah11:54
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RamiKassabhey guys when I turned on my laptop today to boot up ubuntu I received the following error during the bootup process: "make: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete." What does this mean exactly?11:54
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sagarplupine_85, thanks :P i wonder why i didnt think of that ..11:54
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rogue_boyok this is pissing me off i see millions of ways to install my wifi but none of them work11:56
RamiKassabany ideas guys?11:56
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prateekghow to update amarok 1.4.2 to 1.4.3....is 1.4.3 available on ubuntu backports11:58
Fuzzcan someone help me set up Ragnarok Online with wine!?11:58
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k3nobihow do i run application automatically just after login?12:01
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chamok3nobi, are you using gnome ?12:02
k3nobichamo: yes12:02
phlaxissystem -> preferences -> sessions. In startup tab you click on add12:02
phlaxisand type the command you want to start12:02
chamoit's very easy. go to System,... ya thank phlaxis  :)12:02
k3nobigreat!!12:02
k3nobithank you12:02
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FirstStrikeFuzz: RO should work some-what well out of the box. Just run the RO installer with wine and go from there.12:03
yerethRamiKassab: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/1999-January/004534.html12:03
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yerethRamiKassab: read that post12:03
yerethmaybe it'll help you12:03
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yerethanyone running testing atm?12:04
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yerethI use backports, but is testing more up to date?12:04
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FuzzFirstStrike: well ive done that, ive even gotten some dll that it needed for rag and sak, but the private client isnt running12:04
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RamiKassabyereth: so I need to do this on the Makefiles for the distribution?12:05
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timruffvbfd12:06
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FirstStrikeFuzz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24031912:06
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Ackeubu_damn everything tells me i can only have one logical partition but within that one. I can have several extended. or was it the other way around. either way im screwed.12:07
lupine_85Ackeubu_: extended partitions can have multiple logical12:08
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Nilvionobody hear me ?12:08
daurn|laptophi all12:08
Nilviowho can see my texts ?12:08
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lupine_85you can have up to 4 primary partitions; extended partitions must also be primary partitions12:09
daurn|laptopi can't get pureadmin (or pureftpd) to work12:09
hantooi can't, Nilvio12:09
phlaxisNilvo: Ask away!12:09
HazarathStill having problems mounting my new drive. :/12:09
daurn|laptopwhen i go into pureadmin, i can start pureftpd, and can add accounts etc12:09
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daurn|laptopbut when i exit, and get back in12:09
daurn|laptopall settings have disappeared12:09
daurn|laptop - what am i doing wrong12:09
HazarathAh, okes, duh.12:10
yerethRamiKassab: I only read what you read.. :) but it seems that could be the problem, if what they explain looks similar to you as well. So this guy gives an idea how you can easily batch the solution the previous post gave12:10
Nilvioi wanna ask did enyone know Mouse recorder/replayer for ubuntu ?12:10
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daurn|laptopanyone?12:11
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bobby_ok my wifi works now12:11
RamiKassabyereth: yeah noticed that... ok I appreciate the help. I'll search around a bit more and give it a try... thanks again!12:11
bobby_i hear there is an upgrade for it to see how many bars or indicator bt .....12:11
VegetaWhen I mount points in ubuntu, what mount points are essential?12:11
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daurn|laptophello?12:11
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lupine_85Vegeta: depends on how you want to set it up. You have to have / ...12:12
brendonjtvegeta: what do you mean essential mount points12:12
lupine_85everything else can be a part of /, or on a different partition12:12
VegetaYes / and swap. But expect for them.12:12
lupine_85I usually have /home (and sometimes /boot) on separate partitions12:12
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ubuntu321Hi im trying to install java so i can use Frostwire. Im installing it using automatrix but it wont install?12:12
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VegetaWhat is /boot? Isn't it the same as /12:12
lupine_85(since they're both portable between different linux distros)12:13
lupine_85 /boot is where all the kernel images & GRUB data is stored12:13
lupine_85erm, are stored, rather12:13
daurn|laptopanyone care to help me.... at al12:13
daurn|laptopl12:13
ubuntu321Im trying to install java using automatrix but it wont install? Help?12:13
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VegetaBut is I don't mount that point, does it mean that those kernel images and GRUB data wont be stored in my hd at all?12:13
neutrinomasslupine_85: You might want to consider having a /data partition instead of keeping /home around. It might break stuff when switching between distros (or upgrading, for the matter )12:13
lupine_85daurn|laptop: no idea, sorry12:13
brendonjtubuntu321:sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin12:14
lupine_85neutrinomass: I've also got /media/shared12:14
daurn|laptopcomeon12:14
ubuntu321cheers ill try tht12:14
daurn|laptopyou gotta have SOME idea12:14
daurn|laptop:S12:14
daurn|laptopcause i'm out12:14
hantoowhat was the textbased music player with playlist support again?12:14
FuzzFirstStrike:  well ive done all it said me to do but step 7 doesnt work12:14
brendonjtubuntu321:then after that has done type this and choose option 3 sudo update-alternatives --config java12:14
Fuzzthats the one i said, the private client12:14
lupine_85but I've shared this /home between Gentoo, SuSE, three different install of Ubuntu (including breezy->dapper upgrade)... no problems12:15
neutrinomasslupine_85: Yeah... I just want to point out that importing all those .* files from distro to distro is not always a good idea (stuff breaks, from program crashing to being unable to login )12:15
Vegetalupine_85: But is I don't mount that point, does it mean that those kernel images and GRUB data wont be stored in my hd at all?12:15
Fuzzand the private server isnt using a data folder12:15
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ubuntu321brendonjt: it says E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre12:15
neutrinomasslupine_85: I know. I'm only saying this because you *might* run in to problems and it will be hard to track down ;)12:15
lupine_85Vegeta: it means that they're stored somewhere safe12:15
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lupine_85neutrinomass: okies :)12:15
=== lupine_85 is of the opinion that it's perfectly safe, and that an apt-get install --reinstall <troublesome-package> solves all anyway :)
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brendonjtubuntu321:i have just PM you  hang on12:16
lupine_85Vegeta: once you've booted, you can unmount /boot (unless you want to do a kernel upgrade) and if your filesystem dies, you still have your kernel12:16
VegetaI want 2 partitions besides / and swap. SO that in one I could install all the softwares I' going to use (like media players, text editing software and ect..) and one with the personal files. Like saved videos and saved documents...?12:17
lupine_85Vegeta: /opt for 3rd-party media players (or /use if you're talking about stuff installed with apt-get/synaptic)12:17
ubuntu321brendonjt: ok12:17
lupine_85I use /media/shared for videos, etc12:17
lupine_85erm, /usr rather12:18
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lupine_85however, since /usr isn't portable between distros, it's a bit pointless keeping it on a separate partition IMO12:18
Vegeta"usr Secondary hierarchy" <-- What does that mean?12:18
lupine_85it means it's mounted *after* /12:18
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Vegetaok. So /home and /var is on the same hierarchy?12:19
lupine_85(fstab runs several passes - think of what woud happen if /usr was mounted before / ? ;) )12:19
lupine_85yes, if you want them to be12:19
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juan!mount12:19
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks12:19
lupine_85lol12:20
lupine_85where's fdisk? ;)12:20
juanhow do i auto mount directores?12:20
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lupine_85juan: /etc/fstab12:20
davidehi12:20
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VegetaSo where will installed softwares be stored?12:21
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VegetaI mean "extern" softwares, like the ones YOU install, which is not on ubuntu.12:21
aldur2hi guy, got a question about downloading a .lha file that I'm having problems wiht12:22
aldur2with even12:22
davide/usr/bin/ is where you have the binaries12:22
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ubuntu321im trying to install java using automatrix but it wont install12:23
Vegetadavide: I'm a real newbie here, what are those /binaries? It is parts of software?12:23
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dibblegowhat can I do about this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25194412:25
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davideVegeta: well i'm sorry i really have to disconnect right now, but just search on google for "unix file system organization" or similar12:25
VegetaBecause I want something like this: 2 GB for / (can / be on hda2 btw?), 1 GB: swap, 10 GB: For softwares that I install, 20 and 20 GB: For personal files. What do I call the mount points then?12:25
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davideVegeta: well what you could do is have your personal file in your home directory12:26
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|H|qKhello all12:27
VegetaOk. What about softwares? I want to install them on a different partition12:27
davidevegeta: and then leave the rest to your / (it will contain the install files) and12:27
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Vegetaohh ok.12:27
davideVegeta: and 1GB to swap12:27
|H|qKanyone here play games that are meant to go on a pc, but can be installed on linux?12:27
VegetaLinux can't be installed in 1 partition like windows?12:27
lupine_85Vegeta: it can12:28
lupine_85if you don't mount a separate partition, it just uses /12:28
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davideVegeta: yes it ca12:28
VegetaWill linux be installed in /??12:28
lupine_85Vegeta: yes12:28
lupine_85*Everything* is installed in /, by default12:28
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davideVegeta: this is usually the default, it uses / and swap, if you don't tell it to organize things differently12:29
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alduranyone know while firefox won't download any .lha file?12:29
lupine_85when you install stuff on a separate partition, it just moves the data that would otherwise be in another directory to there, and mounts it at that directory12:29
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Vegetahmm.. Because I have: 1 GB, 2 GB, 10 GB, 2x20 GB.   Swap: 1 GB, and / 2 GB. So I thought that I could install softwares on the 10 GB partition... But what do I call the directory then?12:30
|H|qK.lha = ?12:30
yerethanyone experience with edgy?12:30
lupine_85#ubuntu+112:30
aldurits a compress file archive12:30
yerethah yes12:30
davideVegeta: to organize them differently i think it would be more than ok for you if you are a newbie just to have no more than 3 partitions, / swap and /home12:30
Ackeubu_lupine_85: but i can only have one extended?12:30
aldurhttp://www.os4depot.net and try to download any .lha file its ust blank12:30
davideVegeta: call it /home12:30
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lupine_85Ackeubu_: you don't need more than one12:31
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lupine_85an extended partition can contain any number of logical partitions12:31
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davideVegeta: sorry i gotta go... bye! PS: try search some infos googling!!!12:31
Vegetadavide: Will softwares be installed in / or /home? Because then I would need more space for /, if softwares will be installed there...12:31
VegetaOk :(12:31
ashui have got problem with my OS with ubuntu installed by live cd..actually when i boot the pc with hard disk...it doesnt boot at all..and look for dhcp ..everytime i have to start my pc using the live cd..please help me and pm me if anybody knows abt this problem..TIA12:31
davideLuping:  yep it is true, but he wants to partiion it anyway...12:31
lupine_85Vegeta: you don't quite "get" linux filesystems, do you? (I'm not trying to be nasty, just trying to determine how much you know)12:32
aldurashu sould like grub isn't installed12:32
VegetaYeah I have 1 extended paritition. lupine_8512:32
aldur!grub12:32
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:32
Vegetalupine_85: As I say I'm a REAL newbie.12:32
davideVegeta: they will be installed in your /12:32
pilpiVegeta, it's not installed in /home. it is under / in one of those system directories12:32
lupine_85everything in linux -- everything -- is found off of /12:32
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davideVegeta: your /home is for your PERSONAL files...12:33
aldurVegeta me a newbie too12:33
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ashualdur: i installed the grub ..by the live cd..but i am not sure now.how to recover it back..how to go abt it ..can u just explain me aldur?12:33
lupine_85lots of 'standard' directories come off of / -- /home is for personal, /usr for (shared user) applications, /etc for configuration, etc12:33
davideBye everyone!12:33
alduryou can ask teh bot a question by putting a ! before the keyword on a blank line12:33
Vegetacya12:33
lupine_85any of those directories "can" be mounted on a separate partition12:33
duck1123Would disconnecting my tv from a twinview setup cause my computer to boot into the desktop for a second and then kick me back to the login screen?12:33
aldurI'm a newboe too type !grub and follow the links12:33
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pilpiVegeta, each userr has their own directory in /home. all that goes there is the personal config dirs that applications create, and your personal files you put there. applications are _usually_ installed systemwide, i.e. not for some specific user12:34
duck1123or does anyone know what else could cause that12:34
lupine_85pilpi: depends on how you work, I guess :)12:34
Vegetapilpi: ok..12:34
pilpilupine_85, what does?12:34
lupine_85the loss of ~/bin was a terrible day12:34
sasukedoes anyone know how to install vnc4server with out having to delete so many files?12:34
aldur!firefox12:34
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:34
ashualdur:thanks :)12:34
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sasuke!vncserver12:35
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lupine_85single-user systems, though, you might as well have all applications in /usr, I agree12:35
ashu!grub12:35
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:35
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Vegetalupine_85: Wouldn't it be useles for me to create and extended partition, where I create to 10 and 2x20 GB under (which I had), but in stead use 1 partition for all the 50 GB?12:35
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Fuzzuhm ive been trying to get RO to work, but the private client doesnt work, here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2299112:36
aldurvegeta use 1 50Gb partition and just use directories12:36
Fuzzwould someone please take a look at it?12:36
lupine_85Vegeta: at first sight there is no real advantage to have separate partitions12:36
Vegetaok...12:36
duck1123does anyone know where the error log file for gnome would be? I need to find out why ubuntu won't let me log in anymore12:37
aldurthen if you only use 10Gb for music your not wasting 10gb on the rest of the partition12:37
VegetaOnly for / and swap there is...12:37
aldur!error12:37
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
aldur!errorlog12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about errorlog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
aldur!loggs12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about loggs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
sasuke!error on gnome12:37
aldur!logs12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about error on gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs12:37
bobby_i guess xgl doesn't work on SiS12:37
lupine_85however, if you accidentally kill your / partition, and only have the one partition, you'll regret it ;)12:37
bobby_:)12:37
Vegetawell those 10 GB was intended for Linux system files and software files. But I guess I can but those 10 GB to the /, right??12:37
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aldurdo your self a favour and just set up a simple system to start with.12:38
phatewhy is it that I have to jump through flaming hoops to get my music to play?12:38
sasukedoes anyone know any python?12:38
duck1123because ubuntu doesn't come with any non-free code12:39
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sasukemy sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found?12:39
finalbetaphate, linux doesn't play nice with multimedia yet12:39
Vegetaaldur: Why? I only asked if using 10 GB for the /, would be a good idea. Because if system files and softwares are installed there, it wouldn't quite good to only have 2 GB for /...12:39
justin_Phate :)) - get XMMS12:39
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daurn|laptophow do you see what ports are open - and being used by what program?12:40
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finalbetanetstat12:40
justin_I am not sure what you have but if it is Amarok, blech.12:40
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phateFinalbeta: other distros do just fine with multimedia, just not Ubuntu/Debian because someone is allergic to closed source software...12:40
aldurif your a newboe like me you'll probably feck about with the configuration several time until you get it to the way that you want so starting with a simple layout is best.12:40
lupine_85phate: with a multi-millionaire behind them, Ubuntu have to be fairly careful about what they install by default12:41
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lupine_85if you've got millions in the bank, *everyone* wants to sue you12:41
finalbetaphate, that's true, and a shame really, I don't get that they want to make an end user system with easy setup and do that. But on the other hand I mean that linux and multimedia should be put in the same sentence, I still get way beter sound in windows.12:41
justin_Well Linux has always been far behind especially audio wise.. the most advanced audio editors for Linux Rezound and Ardour, are like Cool Edit 96' heh12:41
VegetaI'm just asking if system files and installed software files will be stored in /. Yes or no?12:41
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lupine_85Vegeta: yes12:42
lupine_85in /12:42
VegetaThank you.12:42
lupine_85the directories /etc and /usr12:42
sasuke!my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found?12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
pilpiVegeta, (unless you define a mountpoint for /etc or /usr )12:42
justin_!soundcard12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
sasuke!sound cards can't be found12:42
justin_!sound card12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sound cards can't be found - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
justin_:(12:42
lupine_85!audio12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
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lupine_85!alsa12:42
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems12:42
lupine_85:p12:43
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lupine_85sound in linux is a mess12:43
lupine_85with ~7 competing sound systems, what do you expect? ;)12:43
pilpi!why I'm here or what does any of it make any difference12:43
RMorris84lupine_85: i agree and i just got here12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about why I'm here or what does any of it make any difference - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:43
justin_Yeah it really is, if there is one thing that needs to be improved.. its sound/audio..12:43
siouxmy problem with sound is that i can't play surraund 5.112:43
phateIf they are trying to make a Linux for human beings, why don't they include support for things people do, IE listening to there current music collection that they moved over from windows12:43
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sasukelupine_85, in the start bar area, it has a speaker with the mute sign on it.12:43
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pilpiphate, they do.12:44
RMorris84my laptop speakers sound like poop underwater in linux but in windows it sounds like night and day12:44
justin_Cause for all intents and purposes... Linux is still back there in the early 90's when it comes to sound, but of course I can see why -- seeing as Linux has only recently been .. widely accepted as an alternative desktop system.12:44
Ackeubu_lupine_85: yes i do.. if i want to make a primary partition to a logical or extended.. i have other os on the other partitions and i cant reformat them..12:44
duck1123phate, did you get all the packages you need from the ubuntu guide?12:44
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dragonrider8hello every body12:45
justin_There is no real easy solution for Linux audio, you just have to do tinkering - some people are lucky, and it goes off without a hitch but most of the time.. its meh12:45
pilpiphate, of course if you use shitty windows/apple encoded music files which are often illegal to use in linux anyway then you'll have to install them yourself, plenty of instructions on google12:45
phateduck1123: yes, I'm really just complaining that I had to take extra time to listen to my Depeche Mode albums that took ours to rip in windows, and didn't want to have to do again...12:45
Vegetapilpi: Ok. Because I don't wont to reinstall all the softwares, if something goes wrong with the system and I have format and reinstall the all the stuff in /. So if the softwares are stored in /, that is in the same partition, they be lost too, and I have to reinstall all the programs over again. But that wont happend if they are directed to another partition. So they will installed on /etc and /usr?12:45
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lupine_85sasuke: then your sound is loaded. Now you just have to stop all those different sound systems from competing with each other12:45
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ayeizajedihey everyone12:45
POVaddctphate: many end users are ignorant like you. but distributors have to care about licenses and patented software/formats.12:46
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VegetaAnd I i don't specify where those 2 directories will be, they will automatically be under /?12:46
lupine_85gnome installs ESD by default, which takes over all the sound hardware12:46
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justin_phate: Depeche mode? -*snicker*12:46
lupine_85Vegeta: YES12:46
lupine_85oops caps sorru12:46
Vegetanp12:46
justin_phate: As long as you stick with MP3 your fine..12:46
lupine_85erm, ogg ;)12:46
phatepilpi: I can understand WMA/and Itunes Protected, but MP3?12:47
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pilpiVegeta, I'm not sure if the programs from an old linux installation work if you reinstall / but have the old /etc, /usr12:47
dragonrider8i would like to have help about ndiswrapper and pcmcia wireless card DWL-G65012:47
lupine_85MP3 is copyrighted... you have to pay for a license for the software to be legal#12:47
sasukelupine_85, how do i do that?12:47
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RMorris84phate: im with u on that one12:47
justin_pilpi: Ahh just because the ending says MP3 ;) - does not mean it is the standard version hee - some of my MP3's do not work because of it..12:47
phatelupine_85: tell that to the internet12:47
lupine_85sasuke: I havent' used gnome for ages, sorry. It'sin System->Admin somewhere12:47
justin_Same with strictly microsoft ACPM wavs.12:47
dragonrider8i know that this card work fine on ubuntu 6.06 but only in 54Mbps mode12:47
POVaddctphate: mp3 *is* patented by thomson and fraunhofer institute12:47
Vegetapilpi: Even if it's the same version?12:47
dragonrider8i would like to make it work in 108Mbps mode12:48
lupine_85phate: I know :). But although a 2-bit coder coder can get away with writing a technically illegal application, a $20million foundation can't12:48
lupine_85....get away with installing it by default12:48
justin_lupine_85: In theory MP3 is copyrighted.. in theory...12:48
sasukelupine_85, can i pm you?12:48
lupine_85erm, sorry, I'm getting in the bath in a few minutes12:48
RMorris84justin_: by who?12:48
sasukeoh ok12:48
richardhelp ..... Program im using says specify compression program .... can i specify file roller - if so what is the path to it?12:48
lupine_85and like I said, i've not used GNOME for ages12:48
pilpiVegeta, I'm not sure, but software installation is much easier in linux anyway than windows, and most software is installed automatically by ubuntu without you having to do anything, so I don't think it's really a big issua12:48
justin_RMorris84: Fraufenhoffer, or something to that effect.12:48
bobby_is it possible to import bookmarks from the bookmarks.html file to linux firefox?12:49
justin_Bobby, yes...HTML is platform independant.12:49
sasukeHTML is shit12:49
sasukego PHP12:49
bobby_how do i do it or move it?12:49
lupine_85Vegeta: if your / dies, then you lose your apt database... which means that stuff in /usr becomes only marginally useful12:49
bobby_php is nice i have been working with it12:49
justin_sasuke: PHP bookmarks? why..12:49
Vegetapilpi: Ok, I'll just give alot of space for the /, and let the /etc and /usr stay under that directory...12:49
RMorris84sasuke: doesnt really apply to what hes talking about but ya php is the shiznit12:49
dibblegoPHP is an alternative to HTML? lol12:49
sasukeno PHP is just great12:49
justin_sasuke: What the heck would be the point of using a scripting lang for book marks?12:49
sasukehtml is shit12:49
bobby_php protects your code and data12:49
lupine_85php is good if you're do dynamic stuff12:49
lupine_85...lol...12:50
lupine_85course it does12:50
justin_sasuke: PHP is not a replacement for HTML...12:50
sasukespeically the noobs that use frames12:50
lupine_85for a static page, it's a waste of space12:50
justin_*shakes head*12:50
RMorris84sasuke: if im not mistaken how to u write anything in php without html lol12:50
POVaddctsasuke: you are comparing a description language with a programming language12:50
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richardis there any kind of program that will allow me to compare data change from a website over time12:50
sasukeRMorris84, you use little of php12:50
sasukehtml*12:50
lupine_85RMorris84: obvious, really. You use XML + a suitable DTD... that emulates HTML...12:50
justin_sasuke: Anyways, here is my warning - dont babble.. because what you just said did not make any sense.12:50
sasukeor that12:50
duck1123XHTML12:50
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lupine_85sasuke: all the display is still done using html... it's just the content that's generated dynamically12:50
pilpisasuke, really. ever heard that PHP is used mostly for producing html? :)12:50
dibblegowhat ever happened to #ubuntu-offtopic ?12:51
richardlol12:51
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Vegetalupine_85: So it would be best if I create another partition for /etc and /usr, or use an extended partition, where I have /home /etc and /usr???12:51
dibblegoPHP is a pile of crap, anyone who has used functional languages will attest to that, but it's all off-topic anyway12:51
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RMorris84lupine_85: ive always used html in my php... im not the worlds greatest programmer but i can do php basics for what i need.. didnt even know xml was an option.. lol12:51
justin_bobby_: Anyways, simply export your bookmarks - and then place them in a directory on your linux machine, and through firefox go to your bookmark manager and import them.12:52
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RMorris84!offtopic12:52
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:52
pilpiVegeta, you can't have two directories mounted on the same partition like that12:52
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bobby_ok i got it12:52
bobby_i figured out to just import them from the file12:52
lupine_85pilpi: with logical partitions inside the extended one, you can12:52
justin_bobby_: good12:52
lupine_85Vegeta: personally I'd just stick with having /home on a separate partion12:52
pilpilupine_85, well then they're different partitions, not one logical partition12:52
lupine_85and leave the rest on the / artition12:52
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lupine_85pilpi: true. Note that he said "use an extended partition..."12:53
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timruffhello12:53
lupine_85now I must get in the bath12:53
lagartoalguien habla espaol?????12:53
bobby_si por que?12:53
justin_lagarto: Umm nope.. I think they have diff lang rooms though12:53
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lagartome puedes ayudar??12:53
pilpilupine_85, oh, yeah. right :)12:53
RMorris84anybody got a spca5xx webcam to work in ubuntu?12:53
bobby_the font on these are so much bigger12:54
bimberi!es12:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:54
dibblegolagarto, #ubuntu-es12:54
Vegetapilpi: Can the / partition be an extended one? Where I can place the /etc and /usr. So that if / dies it wont effect /etc and /usr?12:54
lagartothanx!!!12:54
justin_bobby_: Yeah, it takes some time toget adpated to the Linux fonts, as compared to the windows ones.12:54
bobby_it is the same resolution i think12:54
bobby_damn it12:54
phatelupine_85: well if they are a $20mil foundation why don't they just buy a license?12:55
justin_bobby_: Yeah, again simply a difference in fonttypes.12:55
bobby_i wonder if i can change it to match12:55
justin_bobby_: Sure you can always tweak with cairo12:55
justin_I left mine as is.. Windows has some oogly fonts.12:55
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bobby_what does windows use by default?12:55
justin_No clue, I have not used windows since 3.1..12:56
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bobby_i have but i am just now learning linux12:56
bobby_i feel it's a good idea12:56
pilpiVegeta, yeah you can create an extended partition, then create logical partitions inside that extended one, then mount /home on one of them and / on one of them for example12:56
justin_Im sure a quick google will tell you that12:56
bobby_dual boot12:56
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justin_bobby_: At the end of the day, its not a competition heh, it's whatever works best for you - for me personally, Linux does what I need quicker then the others - so yup.12:57
phatePlease pardon my ranting, I didn't mean to cause an issue :P12:58
bobby_yeah12:58
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bobby_linux uses my 64 bit better12:58
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bobby_and i need to learn it to get hired for more stuff12:58
RMorris84im looking for a way to get rid of my windows partition.. :) but i need to save some files off of it before i do it, i have like 10g free on the same partition, whats the easiest way to make a fat32 partition off that to save some files so i dont lose, so i can then reformat what is left on the windows partition....? ;)12:58
bobby_i believe so12:59
justin_bobby_: There you go, anyways - few weeks you'll be all good, windows is even a pain during the first few weeks when you learn it.12:59
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Vegetapilpi: Well I was more thinking of 1 extended partition (where I have /, /etc and /usr) and 1 primary partition (where I have /home). But since I don't know how much space /etc nad /usr will be needing, I geuss I just leave /etc and /usr under the / partition. Wouldn't that be better?12:59
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justin_RMorris84: Why do you need a FAT32 partition to save the files on your windows partition?12:59
justin_RMorris84: You can just copy the files to your Linux disk..12:59
bobby_yeah12:59
bobby_first was unix on mac's years ago01:00
bobby_then windows 3.101:00
bobby_i hated windows 95 at first01:00
bobby_hated it so bad01:00
bobby_now i am ready for linux01:00
bobby_and i got a head start01:00
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RMorris84justin_: well yea, but theres a problem i forgot to mention, i already filled up this partition so thats why im doing this... (i gotta lotta music...)01:00
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pilpiVegeta, probably. it's not much use to have them separate unless you really know what you're doing anyway. I don't :)01:00
justin_RMorris84: Haha, well you could always attach the drive to your machine - and simply mount it as a an msdos drive01:01
justin_-a01:01
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juan!fstab01:02
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions01:02
Vegetahehe. And I'm a huge newb since I JUST started using linux :P. Btw is the / supposed to be on hda1 or is it unimportant where it will be?01:02
justin_RMorris84: Well either way you will either have to mount it--- or delete everything, because of course you cannot change partition types, and save data01:02
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justin_You could always upload your files to filefront, and then download them to your new EXT2 formatted disk :)01:02
RMorris84justin_: i got like 25 gig over there... not much i need to keep... is it possible to do what i want? and i am in the process of getting a 3.5"disk case that turns it into usb2.0 but i wanna do this for the time being01:02
neenaofflinemy gdm themed greeter crashes . I edited my gdm.conf-custom by hand because of some other reason , what do I do now?01:02
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justin_RMorris84: Say again exactly what you have in mind, because my text buffer is very small.01:02
juanwhats the line i should use to mount a fat partition with rights to edit it?01:03
juan!fat01:03
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:03
justin_r+w01:03
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RMorris84ok i have a windows partition on about 25 gig with 10g free, i want to make a fat32 on it to put files that i need to keep so i can wipe windows off01:03
Ackeubu_AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.01:04
RMorris84but my partition i have ubuntu on is almost full so i cant put it here lol01:04
justin_RMorris84: Partition magic.01:04
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Vegetapilpi?01:04
Ackeubu_I cant find my partitions.. in media. i have sda3..  when i do df i dont get sda3...01:04
neenaofflineRMorris84: gparted ?01:04
justin_RMorris84: But you will more then likely end up, deleting all of the disk data... - so your pretty much out of luck I'd say01:04
RMorris84hmm so i should transfer it off to an external drive then do that...01:05
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justin_RMorris84: Yeah, that would be prudent.. - because although possible, you will most likely end up losing all your data if you do not back it.01:05
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VegetaIs the / supposed to be on hda1 or is it unimportant where it will be, or is swap supposed to be on hda1?01:06
justin_Vegeta: HDA1 should be /01:06
justin_Swap can be anywhere01:06
Vegetaok01:06
pilpiVegeta, depends on your system. probably it's good to have it on some bootable drive but I guess in modern machines they're all bootable01:06
pilpiof course if you still happen to drag alonw windows like some do, it tends to be on hda101:07
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justin_My 3.2 gig, is a dedicated swap station :))01:07
pilpialthough not necessarily01:07
Vegetapilpi: nahh I eliminated windows :P01:07
RMorris84justin_: tell me this, if i were to say want to redo my whole disk... how would i go about backing up what i have in linux... bc i might just do that, if i can transfer what i have off of here completely off to an external drive, i would like to setup ubuntu solely on my laptop01:07
pilpiwe'll be seeing you around a lot then :))01:07
Vegetahahaha yeah I guess so ;)01:07
Ackeubu_gparted shows that i have my ubuntu on /dev/sda5 i have an other ext3 on /dev/sda4. but i cant mount it... i think...01:08
RMorris84justin_: i would like to be able to keep my xorg conf also is that possible?01:08
justin_RMorris84: Same way you back up any other disk - copy the files to a CD, or other external media ;)01:08
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justin_RMorris84: Yes - /etc/X11/xorg.conf - save it outside the rest of your back up, and then overwrite the new one when you re-install.01:08
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justin_RMorris84: But that is to say, that your laptop has the same video card type heh... if not you should only save the options parts, and let Ubuntu find the right driver - and tinker as needed.01:09
EnselicHas anyone here ever had a problem with gdp passing the path of the executable as the first program argument?01:09
ayeizajedianyone succeed in getting a freecom DVB adapter working in ubuntu ?  im unable to build the channel list.. anyone with ideas ?01:09
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justin_RMorris84: Oh and as for backing up - you really only need to backup what you cannot restore in Synaptic... mostly /home/~user/alldirs01:10
Ackeubu_how would i find "/dev/sda4" to add it to grub?01:11
RMorris84justin_: and would i still have all my programs that i didnt get in synaptic?01:11
justin_Even the hidden ones, in thunar (XFCE) its ctrl-h - I am not sure how you display hidden files in the other file managers, but you want to back up all the .program - config files also.01:11
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justin_RMorris84: Nope, but those are in ---- /usr/local/bin.01:11
pilpiAckeubu_, what have you got on that device?01:12
justin_They may lack libs when you re-install however, add as needed through synaptic.01:12
pilpiAckeubu_, or partition I mean01:12
Ackeubu_pilpi: another linux distro im trying to get running01:12
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justin_RMorris84: P.s you should look around synaptic, I am sure there is backup programs for linux ;)01:13
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RMorris84justin_: good call01:13
justin_I am not sure, because I only back documents to CD01:13
bobby_is there a wifi bar upgrader that tells me on the menu next to the battery how strong the signal is?01:13
pilpiAckeubu_, see what you got in /boot/grub/menu.lst and copy based on that another entry there01:13
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Ackeubu_pilpi: thats the issue.... hehe ill show you01:15
neenaofflineI edited my gdm.conf-custom by hand because of some reason , my gdm themed greeter crashes now . what do I do?01:16
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Ackeubu_pilpi: this gives me stomack aches.. titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-7-38601:16
Ackeubu_root(hd0,4)01:16
Ackeubu_kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-7-386 root=UUID=7ccaa194-f407-47c2-a90b-ac9e2c43f491 ro quiet01:16
bohemiandid you back up your gdm.conf-custom ?01:16
Ackeubu_hows that supposed to help me..01:16
neenaofflinebohemian: no01:17
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Ackeubu_pilpi: my root should be (hd0,2).. and i have my boot/kernel. but root /dev/sda4 ?!?!?!? is the best i can come up with01:17
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Ackeubu_doesnt feel right though... never seen a /dev/sda* in a grub...01:18
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SubhumanAckeubu_, if you have  a sata drive, then sda is no problem01:18
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pilpititle           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-k701:18
pilpiroot            (hd0,4)01:18
pilpikernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash01:18
pilpiinitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-k701:18
pilpisavedefault01:18
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neenaofflinehow do I fix it ? it's only the themed greeter that crashes ...01:19
pilpiAckeubu_, how's customizing that?01:19
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pilpiAckeubu_, run fdisk on /dev/hda and see there what partition it actually is /dev/sda*01:20
Ackeubu_pilpi: better but.. aint gonna use initrd. om not sure about ro whats that and when to use? okay i try fdisk again. i cant run it in ubuntu though. its weird01:20
Ackeubu_ sudo fdisk /dev/hda01:21
Ackeubu_Unable to open /dev/hda01:21
Ackeubu_???01:21
Ackeubu_im running acer01:21
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pilpiAckeubu_, I'm not sure if all you got there should be umounted first01:21
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Ackeubu_pilPI OKAY01:22
Ackeubu_pilpi thanks ill give it a try01:22
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bohemianmy lock session icon in gnome disappeared when I updated to dapper. anyone know how I can get it back?01:27
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neutrinomassbohemian: you mean the icon when logging out ?01:29
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Subhumanbohemian, right click the panel, click Add to Panel, and find it in the list.01:29
Subhumanits called lock screen by memory01:29
bohemianit's not there01:30
bohemiani looked already01:30
bohemianit's not there01:30
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juanis it possible to run 1 program across multiple sessions e.g have the same gaim running in gnome and kde at the same time01:30
bohemianthe only one I have is 'quit'01:31
jaytaudio issue for music  when logging in but I don't have any sound in chromium any ideas (I have set the volume up on chromium inside the game for both music and sound effects)01:31
TENHas anyone managed to get http://dl.bytesex.org/cvs-snapshots/xawtv-20060816-102024.tar.gz compiled? Contrary to documentation, ./configure needs to be created autogen.sh - and then seems to like neither gcc-4.0.3 nor 3.4 (claims they would not build binaries).01:32
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Godfatherg' day guys01:32
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Godfatheri have seriuos problem01:33
TENBTW why don't the installers created a symlink /usr/bin/gcc to the actual versions? Pretty much every Makefile in existence seems to expect this...01:33
TEN-d01:33
bobby_i need different resolution01:33
Godfatherwe have 4 laptop01:33
bobby_my monitor is widescreen01:33
Godfatherand 1 connection01:33
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Godfatherso one of us works as server01:34
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Godfatherand the othe are connected to him by wireless01:34
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Godfathernow01:34
Godfatherif i run windows there's no problem01:34
piratepenguinanyone using Xen to run a modified gnu/linux distro inside ubuntu (e.g. if you don't have vitalisation support in your cpu)?01:34
Godfatherbut if i'm under ubuntu01:34
qK_anyone know of a reall good music organizer program?01:34
Godfatheri can see the net01:34
Godfatheri configure it01:34
RMorris84Godfather: u need a router dude01:35
piratepenguinqK_: amaroK, banshee ?01:35
jayt!wireless > Godfather01:35
lupine_85qK: amarok :)01:35
Godfatheri got the ip01:35
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lupine_85RMorris84: probably not. More likely just a bit of tweaking required01:35
Godfatherit tells me the it is connected at the net01:35
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Godfatherbut i can't surf on internet01:35
lupine_85Godfather: can you ping the gateway IP ?01:35
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lupine_85e.g. does ping <ip> return any error message?01:36
Godfatherno in this moment01:36
Godfathernow i'm under winshit01:36
lupine_85lol01:36
Jack_Sparrowgodfather, please avoid using the enter key for punctuation.  All on one line makes it easier on the other 857 people in the channel01:36
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lupine_85if you can ping the gateway under linux, then either you don't have a default route set, or your DNS isn't configured properly01:37
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lupine_85route is easy to check - "ip route show" -- if there's no line with "default" then create one: "sudo ip route add default via <ip> dev <interface>"01:37
maploinis there a way to find out what files a specific package downloads?01:38
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lupine_85DNS - if it's that, you'll be able to ping IP addresses, but not domain names, of things on the Internet. Just add a working DNS server to /etc/resolv.conf01:38
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jaytstarting chromium from the command line I get this : Could not load alAttenuationScale        any ideas01:42
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qK_anyone here ever installed UT2k4 or FPS games on Linux?01:42
smacky_wolfCan someone possibly tell me how to use xgl, so I can get all the funky stuff I;ve been hearing so much about?01:42
lupine_85!xgl01:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:43
qK_if you have ati, good luck intalling it01:43
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qK_smacky_wolf:  do you have ati or nvidia?01:43
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smacky_wolfqK, NV01:43
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qK_good01:43
jaytsmacky_wolf, head on over to #ubuntu-xgl and they will help you with it, it is beta software cheers01:43
qK_:)01:44
smacky_wolfjayt, thanks <301:44
orbinjayt: installed via repos?01:44
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Jack_SparrowqK_: I installed Sauerbratten, worked fine01:44
jaytorbin, not in dapper01:44
qK_Jack_Sparrow:  what?01:44
jaytorbin, for my own issue yes01:44
Jack_SparrowqK_: I have Serious Sam for MS and I used the Loki INstallers to get it running under linux01:44
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skarhi, i'm using breezy , is there a way to view streaming windows media on ubuntu/firefox?01:45
frogzooxgl runs fine in dapper01:45
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jayt!restricted > skar01:45
orbinjayt: i presume the game dowsn't load01:45
Jack_SparrowqK_: Sauerbratten is free fps for linux01:45
jaytorbin, it does but there are no sounds01:45
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qK_Jack_Sparrow:  oh well im trying to run like UT2k4 so im wondering01:45
jaytorbin, I did it form the command line to see what error it would throw01:46
jaytskar, read the message from the bot01:46
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Jack_SparrowqK_: Windows version under WIne or a Linux Version01:47
qK_oh yea doesnt UT2k4 ahve a linux instalation?01:47
FirstStrikeyes, it does. it's on the cd/dvd.01:47
Jack_SparrowqK_: http://sauerbraten.org/      http://liflg.org/?catid=601:48
nikini have a question much like that... i have installed Wolfenstein ET .. it starts fine... but i dont see nothing just a black screen... i hear the music and the sound of the menu when i move the mouse, but dont see nothing on the screen01:48
skarjayt: thanks01:48
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skarjayt: will look into it and come back01:49
jaytskar, your welcome01:49
qK_nikin:  yea my buddy installed UT manually and it heard sound and everyhting but it didnt show up, just a black screen01:49
qK_so i was wondering if it was een compatible, then io heard UT has a linux installation01:50
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Jack_SparrowqK_: Yes it works01:50
FirstStrikeIf you look on the UT2k4 cd/dvd (whichever version you have) there should be a file named (if my memory serves correct) linux-installer.sh01:50
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FirstStrikeyou just open a command prompt, cd to the directory and type sh linux-installer.sh (or whatever it's named)01:51
FirstStrikeand it goes from there01:51
qK_oh aha!01:51
qK_i see it :) <301:51
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qK_um do what01:51
FirstStrikeopen a command prompt/terminal01:51
qK_k01:52
beachbuddahgm (EDT) all01:52
Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: I commend your patience01:52
qK_Jack_Sparrow:  ok01:52
FirstStrikecd to the directory it's in (for example: cd /dir/blah/whatever)01:52
qK_oops wrong person01:52
qK_ok done01:52
FirstStrikeJack_Sparrow: I'm feeling nice right now. It'll pass :P01:52
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FirstStriketype: sh linux-installer.sh01:53
mtholdenssi never knew blender 3D could be so powerful after watching a few vids....01:53
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FirstStrikeThose 3d modelling programs confuse the heck out of me. I'll never be able to use them.01:53
nikinblender is powerfull like a nuclearpowerplant :D01:53
nikinblender rules!01:53
qK_ugh01:54
qK_i forget the cpmmands for cd'ing01:54
qK_help01:54
FirstStrike....01:54
FirstStrikecd is the command01:54
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bohemian'cd'01:54
nikincd01:54
mtholdenssyeh blender is awesome...01:54
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JengaIs sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal the same as hitting reload in Synaptic or do you need to run one before the other?01:54
Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: cd means change directory01:54
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FirstStrikeJack_Sparrow: Yes..I know.01:55
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Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: Sorry tab by mistake01:55
nikinJenga: thesame01:55
orbinJenga: sudo apt-get update is equivalent to hitting reload.01:55
Jengathanks01:55
qK_i forget, used linux months ago i forget how to navigate to a cd01:55
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orbinJenga: NB: update, not upgrade01:55
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FirstStrikeit should be somewhere such as /media/cdrom01:55
FirstStrikeso cd /media/cdrom01:55
nikinOrbin you are right...01:55
siouxhi who show me a good guide for install 3d on ati?01:56
FirstStrikeif you have mulitple drives then it might be something like cdrom001:56
Jenga: Yes sorry. I meant update. Brain fart01:56
FirstStrike!ati01:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:56
Jack_Sparrow!ati > sioux01:56
orbinjayt: well it's either something to do w/ openal w/ever that is, or something w/ the way ubuntu's sound system works: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655801:57
Ackeubu_heelp. Ive tried to find my gentoo partition for grub... im on an Acer. My gentoo partition is on dev/sda4. I tried to add it to grub like this:01:57
Ackeubu_root (hd0,3)01:57
Ackeubu_kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.17-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/sda4 but i get the error root cant be found.. and im stuck..01:57
FirstStrike!pastebin > Ackeubu_01:57
jaytorbin, thanks I'll have a look now01:57
siouxthanks01:57
Ackeubu_FirstStrike: thanks01:57
orbinjayt: NB: the guy didn't find a solution ... besides moving back to suse :-/01:57
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jaytorbin, not an option ;-)01:57
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Dr_WillisAckeubu_,  check that sda4 really is the right drive for your root partttiion.01:58
bam_hi.I am having a little problem with "dpkg". Whenever I try to install anything it gives me an error saying "dpkg: error processing kubuntu (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory"01:58
nikin!intel01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
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nikinlol01:58
orbin...and that's a really old thread (filed under warty) ... maybe check if someone filed a bug on it01:58
Dr_WillisAckeubu_,  and whats the filesstem  on the drive (thats the 2 main things that may be the issue)01:58
bam_it works when I try to remove or purge anything, but not when I try to install anything.01:58
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bam_any ideas?01:58
siouxmatrox????  now 3d works with matrox too? humm interesting01:58
qK_omg, i totally forget how to navigate to the dman file01:58
jaytbam_, put your "/etc/apt/sources.list" in paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks01:59
FirstStrikeqK_: we've all told you several times. perhaps it's time to google 'how to cd to a file' :)01:59
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Jack_SparrowqK_: Post your fstab to the pastebin   gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup)01:59
Ackeubu_Dr_Willis: its ext302:00
FirstStrikehe doesn't need to modify his pastebin Jack_Sparrow02:00
FirstStrikeer02:00
FirstStrikefstab02:00
Ackeubu_Dr_Willis: in gparted i set the drive to boot as well02:00
xhaanhmm.. it seems sometimes when i get a software update notice while im doing something my system can hang... whats up with that?02:00
bam_I have all the ubuntu server and a couple of other sites there. I can use "Synaptic" to install, but not dpkg.02:00
Jack_SparrowI know I was just trying to locate his cdrom02:00
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FirstStrikeif he only has one cdrom drive then it'll be /media/cdrom02:01
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JengaOne more question. In the preset search filters in Synaptic, what's the difference between Upgradable and Upgradable (Upstream)02:01
Ackeubu_Dr02:01
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Jack_SparrowFirstStrike:  We would hope...02:01
driz__does anyone know how to get gnome-terminal to use ansi fonts so bitchx irc client looks how its supposed to????02:01
siouxIs this card ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) ok for 3d?02:01
Ackeubu_Dr_Willis: gparted also shows it as dev/sda4. filesystem is ext3 and flags is boot02:01
bam_I posted it under the name "bam_"02:01
FirstStrikeI really don't know how much clearer I can be.02:01
Czar005When I restart apache2, I see this: httpd (pid 7969) already running   and the changes ive made don't take. Whats going on?02:01
FirstStrikeHmm..maybe.02:02
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Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: Not much other than keystroke by k e y s t r o k e02:02
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justin_Anyone know of any good Ubuntu games?02:02
Ackeubu_Dr_Willis: it doesnt show any mount point when im in ubuntu02:02
Jack_Sparrowjustin_: FPS or ?02:02
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siouxCan use this video card ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) for 3d desktop?02:03
justin_Jack_Sparrow: No matter what genre02:03
lupine_85Czar005: sudo killall apache2; /etc/init.d/apach3 start (probably)02:03
Jack_Sparrowjustin_: My wife likes frozen bubble, I like Sauerbraten02:03
lupine_85or kill 7969 I guess02:03
bam_jayt,any ideas?02:03
maploindoes anybody know how i can see what files a package contains? and where did it get them from initially? like a link?02:03
FirstStrikeqK_: Open a terminal. Type: cd /media/cdrom and press enter. Then type: dir It should list the contents of the cd (theoretically)02:03
justin_Jack_Sparrow: Synaptic?02:03
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Jack_Sparrowjustin_: For bubble yes02:04
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lupine_85maploin: dpkg -L <package> will tell you all the installed files02:04
Jack_Sparrowjustin_:  http://sauerbraten.org/02:04
qK_ok done02:04
lupine_85as for where they come from... just browse the repo with a browser02:04
FirstStrikeqK_: do you see a list of files in the terminal?02:04
driz__does anyone know how to get gnome-terminal to use ansi fonts so bitchx irc client looks how its supposed to????02:04
qK_yes02:04
justin_Jack_Sparrow: ok02:05
Healothey, if you installed gnome, the basics are in the documentation02:05
FirstStrikeqK_: is something along the lines of linux-installer.sh there?02:05
lupine_85e.g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu02:05
qK_yes02:05
maploinlupine_85: no, i mean the containing files, something like a link for each file02:05
FirstStrikeqK_: type: sh linux-installer.sh02:05
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justin_Jack_Sparrow: Speaking of which, last one since it goes off topic - but are you aware if Counterstrike, still requires keys and all that nonsense to play?02:05
lupine_85maploin: maybe in the Packages.gz ?02:05
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lupine_85the .deb file itself is stored in /var/apt/cache, IIRC02:06
Jack_Sparrowjustin_: No idea.. Never played it02:06
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Dr_WillisAckeubu_,  under ubuntu, fdisk -l, dosent show the partition?02:06
lupine_85or /var/cache/apt02:06
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justin_Jack_Sparrow: ok02:06
Neo8750!cups > Neo875002:07
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Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: Well done....02:07
M3G4cruxHI02:07
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M3G4cruxhow can I set the console resolution to a higher one, some time ago when I used Debian I only had to edit the boot parameter of the kernel, but now it seems it just ignores it02:08
FirstStrikeYes..I have filled my quota for the year.02:08
FirstStrikeBack to being grumpy.02:08
jaytbam_, you have plf and lots of _none_ ubuntu repos in there - something is not right there - I see bleeding edge wine I would not be comfortable with that02:08
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HazarathOk, new problem... had a hard drive connected to my system, couldn't get ntfs to write, so... formatted, now the dive still won't write, and it's under vfat.02:08
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M3G4cruxI had tried this one but I am not sure -> video=intelfb:mtrr,noaccel:3,ywrap,1920x1200-32@6002:08
Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: Not having finished my first cup of coffee I would have probably trout slapped him02:08
bam_ok,I will look at it.02:08
FirstStrikehaha02:09
qK_lol Jack_Sparrow02:09
juanis there a reason a script cant be marked as executable?02:09
lupine_85juan: on a ro filesystem?02:09
FirstStrikeI haven't gone to bed yet.02:09
bam_One more thing, "type" doesnt work on my pc...any ideas?02:09
mtholdensshow to upgrade to blender 2.42 i got 2.4102:09
lupine_85just bash <scriptname>02:09
Ackeubu_Dr_Willis: right it doesnt02:09
bam_does it have something to do with this?02:09
mtholdensshow to upgrade to blender 2.42 i got 2.4102:09
M3G4cruxcan anyhone help me with the resolution of the console?02:09
HazarathNeed to write to my vfat drive, writing doesn't work currently.02:09
lupine_85!blender02:09
ubotublender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro02:09
juannope i just added a folder so the system cant be ro02:10
jaytorbin, okay playing with al libs now - will let you know if I kludge it into working02:10
qK_how do you unmopunt and remount a cdrom?02:10
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Ackeubu_Dr_Willis: but sudo fdisk -l does ;)02:10
Jack_Sparrowbam_: Please tell me that was a joke.. :)02:10
bam_....it wasent?02:10
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bam_should it have been?02:10
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bam_or was that a complete newb question...?02:11
FirstStrikeqK_: with the umount and mount commands02:11
Ackeubu_Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2299402:11
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HazarathFirstStrike, can you help me?02:11
FirstStrikeqK_: type man umount and man mount in a terminal for a description of the commands and how to use them.02:11
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jhasseHow can i change the design of the checkboxes in firefox to the standard human theme?02:11
Jack_SparrowHazarath: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop02:11
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tuxlifanHello, is there a reason why /etc/login.defs was changed to have ENV_SUPATH with /usr/local/(s)bin before /usr/(s)bin ?02:12
knoppixneed help with sahring usb adsl modem connection over local network02:12
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joltAnyone know how to get Edgy to stop trying to restart terminal sessions when logging in single user mode?02:12
mtholdenssshortcut to take screenshot?02:12
HazarathJack_Sparrow, it's readable. Just can't write, or enable write for that matter: it'll let you check 'write', but won't keep it.02:12
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mtholdenss!sceenshot02:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sceenshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:12
mtholdenss!screenshot02:13
ubotuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin02:13
FirstStrikeHazarath: did you setup your fstab properly?02:13
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HazarathFirstStrike, Pardon? Wassat?02:13
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Jack_Sparrowbam_:  When someone tells you to go to a terminal and "type blah blah...  Type is NOT a command... it is what you do02:13
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FirstStrikehmm, i wonder if there's an !fstab02:13
HazarathPress 'any key'.02:13
FirstStrike!fstab02:13
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions02:13
FirstStrikewoo02:13
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jhasseHow can i change the design of the checkboxes in firefox to the standard human theme?02:14
bam_no...not that. I mean when I am looking for a program...I try for example "type kde" and it gives me all the synapsis with "kde"...that doesnt work. HEHE02:14
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bam_that WOULD be a really bad mistake to do...hehe02:15
Hexidigital_jhasse: system > preferences > themes02:15
Ackeubu_Hey you guys. im going crazy .. my gentoo boot on sda4 doesnt work. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2299602:15
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Jack_Sparrowbam_: Forgive me, but I hope you understand how I interpreted your statement02:15
HazarathFirstStrike, the drive is on my desktop, and I can read what's in it, it just won't accept my trying to change permissions... I can change 'read' and 'exicute', but not 'write'.02:15
jaytbam_, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop < that may help02:15
Hexidigital_jhasse: sorry, i misread that02:15
jhasseHexidigital: ok02:16
bam_its ok, I should have formulatet it differently.02:16
bam_jayt, I will try.02:16
FirstStrikeHazarath: type gedit /etc/fstab in a terminal and put it on pastebin then send us the link02:16
qK_< installing UT200402:16
Hexidigital_jhasse: i think there's an extension for that, but i'm not sure...02:16
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jhasseHexidigital_: thx, i will look for it02:16
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bennoubonjour tout le monde02:17
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bam_oh,I have kubuntu-desktop already. Thats why I am a bit surprised about the whole "type" problem.02:17
HazarathPastebin is like... dead.02:18
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bennouoops, i'm on an english chat, so my english is so poor taht i have to go...02:18
justin_Who told me about Saurebraten?02:18
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FirstStrikeHazarath: pops right up for me.02:18
jaytHazarath, here is a pastebin that works paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:19
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Jack_Sparrowjustin_: me02:19
FirstStrikeThere's really no servers for it though.02:19
FirstStrikeI was saddened when I went to play it.02:20
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Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: I just play in single user mode against the pc..02:20
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FirstStrikeEhh doesn't do it for me.02:21
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Hazarathhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2299702:21
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Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: http://www.cubeengine.com/forum.php4?action=display_thread&thread_id=12  perm server info02:22
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HazarathFirstStrike, got the code?02:22
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afd_dapper > edgy. Does the upgrade work? Should I try it? Is edgy stable for daily use?02:22
Losty1981for some reason my wireless card is no longer being recognized.....where do I look to configure?02:23
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siouxafd if i were you i will wait02:23
juani have a shell script run_aspell.sh but i cant give it permision to be run, i can edit rights i can add files to the dir but why cant i make it executable?02:23
TheCobrahi02:23
TheCobrasomebody has exp. with dualscreen02:24
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hoehave1does anyone here use ubuntu 6.10 knot 2 that knows how to fix a firefox error that, when i go to myspace, firefox closes.it started closing when i tryed to sing in but i installed some stuff(dont know what)and not it just wont show up when i try to view my profile02:24
hoehave1like i said firefox closes02:24
driz__Does anyone know how to get ansi fonts to work for gnome terminal??? im tryign to make bitchx client look how its supposed to02:24
hoehave1wow that was kinda long....my bad02:24
HazarathTheCobra, I herd it's not very nice.02:24
FirstStrikeHazarath: change the end of /dev/sda1 to iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0 and save it (you'll need to sudo gedit /etc/fstab in order to overwrite the file)02:24
TheCobrahazarath it works but02:24
TheCobraI cannot move a screen from screen 1 to screen 202:25
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Nameeatera screen or a program?02:25
morbid88hi all. How do I set up ndiswrapper to activate drivers on startup?02:25
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Ash-Foxscreen program!02:25
BlissexTheCobra: you may need Xinerama for that.02:25
FirstStrikeafd_: Edgy is still in development stages. It is not recommended for you to upgrade your current Dapper installation at this time. Rather, you should install Edgy on its own partition instead as it is not a stable release yet. Many things are broken/will break as of yet.02:26
Losty1981hi morbid hang 2 secs02:26
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morbid88thanks, Losty198102:26
Losty1981install ndisgtk package02:26
afd_FirstStrike: thanks for advice02:26
bam_does anyone know a shell command to increase/decrease the volume of a pc?02:26
Nameeateralsamixer02:26
Losty1981check to make sure you have all the repositories checked in synaptic02:26
HazarathTheCobra, That's what I was told. Only works in clone mode.02:26
Losty1981search for ndisgtk02:26
Nameeaterits a curses based app tho02:26
HazarathFirstStrike, Now what? Re-start the shell?02:27
morbid88Losty1981: is thtat for me?02:27
Losty1981and install -- makes ndiswrapper a breeze -- its a gui -- worked to make it start up on mine02:27
TheCobrai see02:27
TheCobra:)02:27
Losty1981morbid :soral for you02:27
hoehave1Can someone help me with my problem please.02:27
FirstStrikeHazarath: type sudo mount -a02:27
Losty1981morbid: all for you  sorry02:27
bam_Nameeater, thx!02:27
Fuzzis there a way to check if my direct3d works!?02:27
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morbid88Losty1981: so I get ndisgtk from synaptic? Which repositories do I need?02:28
Healotthere isn't any02:28
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HazarathFirstStrike, Still cannot enable write access.02:28
Healotthere is no Direct3D in GNU/Linux :)02:28
Losty1981ah i dunno... lol I just checked em all LOL02:28
Fuzzorly?02:28
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morbid88Losty1981: I ran a search and couldn't find it, so I dont know what I'm missing.02:29
Fuzzwell im trying to get RO to work and its not workign because if the direct3d02:29
morbid88!ndisgtk02:29
ubotundisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB02:29
Losty1981check al ur repositories02:29
Fuzz(ragnarok Online)02:29
morbid88ah.02:29
Losty1981use synaptic02:29
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Losty1981morbid: sorry cant be more help02:29
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morbid88I'm in synaptic. I ran a search there.02:29
james296can somone here help me with making the entire logon screen show on my monitor?02:30
james296only part of it is showing02:30
Losty1981morbid: jsut check all the repositories.....and make sure u press reload02:30
morbid88Losty1981: ok, thanks.02:30
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lixmorbid88: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/ndisgtk02:30
Jack_SparrowHazarath: HAve you used anything like Automatix or Easyubuntu or non-official repos?02:30
james296well?02:30
morbid88Losty1981: I found the repositories window. I'll check them and see if I find it. Thanks, mate!02:30
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morbid88lix: Or, I could try that...02:31
Losty1981either or02:31
HazarathJack_Sparrow, Yeah, Easyubuntu02:31
Adamubuntu is based on debian right?02:31
lixmorbid88: It's in Universe02:31
Losty1981adam: apparently02:31
midgetg0atAutomatix uses 99% official repos02:31
lixAdam: somehow02:31
midgetg0ati thought was great, and then was informed about prog clashes it can introduce :(02:31
Adamright cheers02:31
Jack_Sparrowmidgetg0at: And works 95% of the time.. Try going to their channel and see how much help is available02:32
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midgetg0atwell, I had great luck with it - but the nay sayers convinced me otherwise :-/02:32
morbid88I'm getting the extra repositories. Will look now.02:32
midgetg0ati'm just too new to linux to deal w/ seemingly unexplainable errors02:32
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morbid88found it, thanks. Will try. Cheers all!02:33
Losty1981no wozzas02:33
lixmorbid88: np02:33
Jack_Sparrowmidgetg0at: When we see really odd problems that do not respond to normal fixes.. many times thay have used those scripts02:33
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realistWhat is EasyUbuntu?02:33
HazarathFirstStrike, brb02:33
morbid88(I love this channel, it's like the Google Maps of ubuntu...)02:33
FirstStrike!easyubuntu02:33
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.02:33
midgetg0atrealist: a little gui which allows for quick install of common apps.02:33
piratepenguindoes Ubuntu ship with ekiga?02:33
Jack_Sparrow!easyubuntu > realist02:33
lixmorbid88: ;)02:33
TeemuRrealist: A program that automatically installs some usefull codecs and programs02:33
Healotyes, piratepenguin02:34
piratepenguincheer02:34
piratepenguins02:34
midgetg0atbut - the number of apps is dwarfed by those offered by automatix02:34
morbid88Okay, so I've got it running. But how do I get the ndiswrapper module to load on boot?02:34
HazarathFirstStrike, Ok, back... what do I do now?02:34
Healotapplication -> Internet -> ekiga02:34
Losty1981i think it does it automatically02:34
fyrestrtrboth easyubuntu and automatix are not encouraged.02:34
juanthis line "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" should let me read write and execute anything on the drive i mount right?02:34
Losty1981it did for mine atleast?02:34
realistJack_Sparrow: where can I find a list of !commands for ubotu?02:34
Jack_Sparrow!help02:35
midgetg0atI've got a somewhat silly question...i'm running in twinview mode (dual monitors)...how might i get my top and bottom desktop panels to stretch the full 2560 pixels of my desktop?02:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:35
midgetg0atis there some file i can manually edit?02:35
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Losty1981morbid: load the inf with the gui .... i think it discretely changes some other things02:35
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seriouslycgihi i installed dapper over the top of fedora and i have a hard drive set as slave on 1st ide port. the folders are all owned by 500 and group 500 how do i change this so all the files and folders can be accessed by users?02:35
FirstStrikeHazarath: You'll have to ask some one else. I'm not sure where the issue is at this point as I've only dealt with NTFS in depth.02:35
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weswh-workdoes anyone know if there is a package for the Fox GUI toolkit stuff for Ruby?02:36
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HazarathFirstStrike, Lemme re-start the shell.02:36
FirstStrikeThat won't change anything that sudo mount -a wouldn't do :>02:36
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morbid88Losty1981: I've already set up the drivers for ndis. I used ndiswrapper -i. It shows up as already installed in ndisgtk (although it's still convenient as hell!) But I need to load the ndiswrapper module at boot.02:36
morbid88does depmod -a do that?02:36
midgetg0atsudo chown <something here> /hdb0/* ? but thats a total guess02:37
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morbid88or do I drop it into the modules directory02:37
TeemuRHow well does Cedega work and how easy is it to use?02:37
HazarathFirstStrike, Still no good.. anybody can help?02:37
Losty1981morbid: just remove it....and install with the ndisgtk02:37
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morbid88ah. I'll try that.02:37
Losty1981morbid: like I said it set mine to boot with it every time.....ik think there is more to meets the eye with ndisgtk02:37
midgetg0atno response to how to set desktop panel widths?02:38
Losty1981at least it "WAS" working02:38
morbid88aaaaah. Robots in disguise.02:38
Adamany one know what ubuntu version has the tg3 module for Broadcom nics allready configuered?02:38
morbid88am I still on?02:38
Jack_Sparrowno02:38
Losty1981yeah02:38
Losty1981lol02:38
juan!fuse02:38
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:38
mtholdenss!screencasting02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screencasting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
juan!fstab02:38
morbid88:-) pretty robust, this "linux" thing.02:38
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions02:38
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Xtevencan I somehow put another kernel on an ubuntu install cd ? my system is so new that it needs a newer kernel to even boot from a cd02:38
Xtevenhi btw02:38
mtholdenssscreen casting?02:39
juan!mount02:39
Losty1981ur better off having a fat32 partition linux/windows share hej?02:39
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks02:39
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Jack_SparrowXteven: Do you get to the start or install screen?02:39
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juan!fat3202:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:39
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Jack_SparrowXteven: Have you done the CD self test for errors02:39
HazarathThis so sucks... lost roughly 70GB of hard drive space to format it so Lunix can write to it... and now I can't even use it.02:39
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Losty1981u can write to fat32 juan02:40
Losty1981from ubuntu out of the box02:40
Jack_Sparrowjuan: Please send that info to yourself rather than to all in the channel like  /msg ubotu fstab02:40
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XtevenJack_Sparrow : I tried edgy knot 202:40
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XtevenJack_Sparrow : I get a colorfull tv-test-screen thingy and it says "mounting root disk"02:40
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Xtevenand then I get dropped to a busybox shell02:41
HazarathLosty1981, That may work... re-format my drive in Windows to Fat 32, and bring it back... duh...02:41
betimhi, I have iso of ubuntu server, does it contains gnome on it?02:41
Xteventhe kernel doesn't have drivers for my ide chipset02:41
Neo8750Xteven: the edgy splash stinks02:41
juani no but i need to change something so that i can execute the files on my fat drive?02:41
Xtevenwhich is ICH8R I believe02:41
Neo8750and you can't change it02:41
Jack_SparrowXteven: Asking in Ubuntu+1 would be a better choice02:41
HazarathFirstStrike, That should work, right? Format the drive to Fat 32 under Windows?02:41
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XtevenJack_Sparrow : oh, ok :)02:41
drolehi there,, i need some help.. where can i get avi codec for totem?02:42
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Jack_Sparrowjuan: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop02:42
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FirstStrikeHazarath: If you format it to fat then yes, you can write to it out of the box. If you install fuse and ntfs-3g then you can write to it even if it's formatted to NTFS.02:42
juanthx02:42
midgetg0atdrole: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats02:42
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FirstStrikeso either way, you can write to it. a fresh ubuntu install shouldn't have any issues mounting and writing to a fat drive.02:43
HazarathFirstStrike, That info could of been _very_ handy about 3 hours ago... everythnig I've tried wouldn't allow writing to NTFS... lost 70GB of stuff, lol... lemme go format, heh.02:43
FirstStrikebut if you messed up your some permissions either manually, through a script or caused something else to go awry then that could cause issues.02:43
Jack_SparrowHazarath: Not a good choice02:43
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Xtevennot much activity in ubuntu+102:44
midgetg0at(or none)02:44
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Neo8750just download the edgy cd and try it02:44
HazarathJack_Sparrow, I've tried everytihng... captive, all that.. still failed. Plus: said drive had too much info to back up, heh.02:44
Neo8750if it comes down to it you got 2 coasters =/02:44
FirstStrikentfs-3g is still in testing stages, however it has been tested quite extensively with no corrupted files/filesystems thus far (documented anyway)02:44
FirstStrikei use it on this box and haven't had any problems either.02:45
daurn|laptophow do you install it?02:45
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HazarathFirstStrike, Jack_Sparrow Gonna re-format the drive now, bbs.02:45
Jack_SparrowHazarath: Writing to ntfs is not 100% safe02:45
FirstStrike!fuse02:45
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:45
FirstStrike!ntfs-3g02:45
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171002:45
ArinomiI have downloaded the ISO, burned it to a CD, and rebooted my pc. Now what?02:45
Neo8750FirstStrike: thats only because the people who fs corrupted also had system crash and sho them self it just wasn't their day02:45
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kishoreif we delete any files in windows drives.. from ubuntu.. they are not actually deleting..02:46
FirstStrike:P02:46
Neo8750s/sho/shot02:46
Nigthfallhi02:46
FirstStrikeArinomi: I'm assuming the Ubuntu livecd?02:46
ArinomiFirstStrike: I was told to download the Desktop CD02:46
FirstStrikeArinomi: Click the Install icon on the desktop and follow the instructions.02:46
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FirstStrikeThe desktop/livecd are the same thing.02:46
Fuzzhow do i uninstall my fglrx drivers?!02:46
Jack_Sparrow!fglrx > Fuzz02:47
midgetg0atuninstall, or run a different driver?02:47
FirstStrikeSince he said uninstall I'm assuming..uninstall.02:47
Fuzzreinstall actually02:47
midgetg0atawww first, maybe you'll be right next time.02:47
FirstStrikeI can only go by what they say. You weren't right either :P02:48
Fuzzim using the ATI drivers now02:48
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NigthfallIs it possible to run ubuntu-live from external harddisks? To use it as a portable Linux on different systems?02:48
Jack_SparrowFuzz: Use the info supplied by the bot02:48
fyrestrtr!ping02:48
ubotuping: connection timeout02:48
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Fuzzbecause it works on my desktop with dualscreen.. and the fglrx drivers totally screwed up my GUI02:48
Coffeegrindsubotu compact flach install02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compact flach install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:49
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Coffeegrindsubotu compact flash install02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compact flash install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:49
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Losty1981Can someone help me with my network card: It used to interface as eth1 ... but now it doesnt seem to recognize it at all... ndiswrapper says its loaded but its not showing up on iwconfig...02:49
Coffeegrindscrappy.02:49
Jack_Sparrow!install02:49
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues02:49
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Coffeegrindsand my google-fu powers have run out02:49
Kamelihi, why the command sudo apt-get buil-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work but sudo apt-get build-dep wine works, does anyone know? help me ='(02:49
Coffeegrindsarr mate thanks02:49
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Losty1981is there some where I should look to nano for network settings /etc ??02:50
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HazarathFirstStrike, Jack_Sparrow Crap... will only allow me to format to NTFS... *stabs Windows*02:50
Jack_SparrowLosty1981: what network card are you using02:50
Kamelihi, why the command sudo apt-get buil-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work but sudo apt-get build-dep wine works, does anyone know? help me ='(02:50
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Hazarathbbs02:50
nataraj_if i open a deb package in firefox, using the package installer, where does it get d/loaded on my hard disk?02:50
Losty1981im using a broadcom which previoulsy had worked fine02:50
Coffeegrindsi guess now the only issue is I've got a CF-IDE adapter .. I'm not seeing much of those02:50
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Kamelilook my guestion :(02:51
Losty1981and recently even better since I got the latest drivers02:51
Jack_SparrowHazarath: Are you going to try and put XP back on that..02:51
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Losty1981but inexplicably....doesnt work at the moment02:51
Losty1981ive rebooted etc02:51
Losty1981stumped02:51
jman8888Can anybody help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25363002:51
Coffeegrindsnataraj_: open the download window, unter tools, It'll tell you at the bottom02:51
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nataraj_ok02:52
reazonn02:52
reazonhelp02:52
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reazonwtf02:52
Coffeegrindsftw?02:52
Jack_SparrowLosty1981: reazon  Please avoid using the enter key for punctuation.  All on one line makes it easier on the other 857 people in the channel02:52
phanterhello there. I have a bunch (640) vcs calendar files which I would like to inster in evolution. How can I do this as an automated proces02:52
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reazonya im just trying to know how this command line irc works02:53
reazonsorry02:53
Losty1981Jack: sorry mate...bad habits02:53
Coffeegrindsheheh02:53
Kamelihey guys, does anyone know why my command sudo apt-get build-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work, but when i type sudo apt-get buil-dep wine it works?02:53
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weswh-worki have ruby 1.9 installed through synaptic, trying to run a ruby app through terminal. it says type 'ruby setup.rb', but terminal says command ruby does not exists. any ideas?02:53
HealotKameli: those packages aren't in the repos :)02:53
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Dr_WillisHealot,  What! thats too logical an answer!02:53
Dr_Willis:P02:54
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Healotcrikey, it is the answer!02:54
Dr_WillisOi Vey!02:54
Coffeegrindsany pointers here, I've just bought a cheap'n'quick CF card and have a spare CF to IDE adapter, should i go with the USBon a stick to avoid unwanted write and suffer a massive hit to this box's meager256MBs o'pc133? or go all out and burn out my card in a year or two?02:54
phanteror is there an other program for reading vcs calendar files (I need to extract the info in an ordered way)02:54
Dr_WillisHealot,  why cant i apt-get install windowxp ?!02:54
Dr_Willis:P02:55
HazarathJack_Sparrow, No, just gonna use fat32 so ubuntu can read/write to it.02:55
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nataraj_Cofeegrinds: i know.. but it doesn't come there.. could it be because i created the dir. under sudo?02:55
Dr_WillisCoffeegrinds,  in a year or 2 you will be able to get 10gb cards for $3002:55
HazarathJack_Sparrow, Well, windows and uinuntu02:55
Jack_SparrowHazarath: What about gparted?02:55
SubhumanCoffeegrinds, keep it frugal, its better just to keep things in RAM then have constant read/writes, but i mean CF cards are cheap nowadays so its up to you.02:55
kishorehi all02:55
Coffeegrindstrue and what;s you think my chances of burning it out would be?02:55
kishorei dont find preferences in /etc/apt02:56
Coffeegrindslike time wise?02:56
Dr_WillisCoffeegrinds,  ive never managed to do it yet.02:56
KameliHealot: yes them are, there are simgear,flight gear but them are older versions, 0.9.9 :((( and i want 0.9.1002:56
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Coffeegrindssee thats whgat i keep hearing, and I mean I have my 120gb Usb drive, I'm set for external storage02:57
FirstStrike!partition > Hazarath02:57
Jack_SparrowCoffeegrinds: I use cf for everything, MP3, cameras, ipaq02:57
Healot!info simgear02:57
ubotuPackage simgear does not exist in any distro I know02:57
Nigthfallbye02:57
Dr_WillisKameli,  you will have to either use the source, or perhaps the klic auto packages02:57
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HealotKameli: apt-get only install stuff, binary/source package from the listed official repos, you :)02:58
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Coffeegrindssee I'm looking forward to taking a small hit at sustained read times to get thet zen od less than 1ns read time02:58
Coffeegrindssweeet sweet stupidness02:58
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Coffeegrindsand lack of spelling02:58
jirihavelkaHi, what is the command for gnome trash plz ???02:58
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Coffeegrindswell guys wish me luck ..02:59
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Dr_Willisjirihavelka,  what a odd question. Care to clarify what you are trying to do.02:59
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jirihavelkaDr_Willis: i want to know command for trash03:00
justin_:( why is Radeon so sucky for Linux..03:00
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Healotit's Ati, sir... proprietary stuff sucks03:00
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jirihavelkai use open source for radeon03:00
Dr_Willisjirihavelka,  once again..  thats odd.. a command to do WHAT with the trash?03:00
zax1i want to do some email marketing, and found constant contact, but i dont understand why should i not do it my self ? what are the benefit of using constant contact as opposed to just sending the emails myself ?03:01
kishorei hav created alias for " apt-cache search " as acs ..now i want to remove that. how can i03:01
jirihavelkaDr_Willis: to create a shortcut which will run trash, that i need command03:01
zax1oops wrong channel :(03:01
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justin_Healot: Yeah and the open soure driver is even worse, go figure - I am wondering if ATI did this on purpose, slow down the card in Linux03:01
FirstStrikejustin_: ATI has some terrible Linux drivers.03:01
midgetg0atthought it was slightly off topic zax03:01
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kishorehelp needed03:02
kishorei hav created alias for " apt-cache search " as acs ..now i want to remove that. how can i03:02
Healotjustin_: you can stuff your opinion at #ubuntu-offtopic03:02
Dr_Willisjirihavelka,  you mean open the trash can folder?03:02
Healotthe open source driver isn't created b y ATi team03:02
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justin_Yeah, they do anyways...03:02
phanterhow can I combine a lot of files easily in one file (tekstfiles?)03:02
Dr_Willisphanter,  what kind of file..03:03
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bintutanyone here can point me to a good documentation on how to customize an ubuntu cd installer?03:03
phanterDr_Willis: textfiles03:03
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VCFYuw03:03
driz__Sigh.... has anyone got bitchx to actually look like its supposed to on ubuntu? with ansi?03:03
Dr_Willisphanter,  use 'cat'03:03
VCFHi there,03:04
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Sp4rKyhi03:04
Jack_Sparrowbintut: http://www.livedistro.org/taxonomy/term/376?PHPSESSID=fcca24dbaf9c3e986ec2c0e2a6bcc9e103:04
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VCFWhat ftp server should I use ?03:04
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Kamelihow i can know then what packages simgear or flightgear needs if apt-get build-dep doesn't works, i have installed all packages what it needs, but still i can't compile it, always some errors :( ?03:05
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HazarathFirstStrike, Thanks, but gonna do this: Windows will format it to Fat32, but only 32 Gb each: I cut the drive in two, 32GBs each, and gonna just have two partitions.03:05
Healotread the documentation of that package, Kameli03:05
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phanterDr_Willis: oke, so how do I write the output into a file? is it like cat *.vcs >> text.txt ?03:05
VCFIn other words what is a good ftp server to use with Ubutnu ?03:05
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HazarathVCF, gFTP works good for me.03:06
bintutJack_Sparrow: thanks..03:06
Healotdefine "good" VCF03:06
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Jack_Sparrownp03:06
Dr_Willisphanter,  bash 101 stuff here. :P  basicially that should work.03:06
phanterhah oke it worked03:06
daurn|laptopok03:06
phanterthnx03:06
daurn|laptopi installed ntfs-3g!03:06
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VCFIt should be secure and easy to update with apt-get ?03:06
HazarathVCF, Ya.03:06
justin_In Xorg, if your video card is an AGP - should the BUSID - still = PCI:1;0:0??03:07
daurn|laptopjust03:07
daurn|laptophow can i get these 2 commands to run on startup?03:07
daurn|laptopmdadm --build --level=linear --raid-devices=2 --auto=p /dev/mdp0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb03:07
daurn|laptopsfdisk -R /dev/mdp003:07
VCFSo you would recommend gFTP ?03:07
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daurn|laptopgFTP is good03:07
phanteroke that did not work...03:07
phanterDAMN03:07
Jack_SparrowLosty1981: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper03:07
phanterplease if anybody can help me?03:07
Dr_Willisdaurn|laptop,  theres a /etc/rc.local I belive03:08
Paddy_EIREhey guys i have a 3 button mouse where do i turn emulation off03:08
Healotbtw, he was asking for FTP server :-03:08
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Dr_WillisPaddy_EIRE,  in the xorg.conf file03:08
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FirstStrikepureftpd03:08
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Paddy_EIRE<Dr_Willis> where is xorg.conf03:08
phanterI have 640 vcs calendar files and I need the info somehow. Importing in evolution is almost impossible (i have to do it file by file). How can I get the info extracted :s... please I need help with this03:08
HazarathVCF, IT'S WHAT i USE.03:08
HazarathSorreh.03:08
daurn|laptopDr_Willis: will that run before fstab does its thing?03:09
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Dr_WillisPaddy_EIRE,  in /etc/X11/03:09
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Paddy_EIRE<Dr_Willis> and do i just type false?? is there anything else i have to change03:09
Arinomi!install03:09
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues03:09
jman8888!dwl-12203:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dwl-122 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
FirstStrikeVCF: gFTP is a ftp client. pureftpd is a ftp server.03:09
Dr_Willisdaurn|laptop,  i doubt it.03:09
jman8888!d-link03:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
jman8888!wireless03:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:09
daurn|laptopso03:09
daurn|laptopwhat does?03:09
VCFRight03:09
Dr_WillisPaddy_EIRE,  backup your working xorg.conf. and you proberlly just need to delete the correct line.03:09
VCFThanks...03:10
dalaniI put a startup script in init.d to start my wvdial on boot up03:10
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dalanii need to see thelog where????03:10
daurn|laptopDr_Willis?03:10
Paddy_EIRE<Dr_Willis> how do i back it up03:11
bintutwhat is the recommended tool to build an ubuntu installer cd? i found UCK and Reconstructor but both of them are not stable. i believe there is a tool used by the ubuntu project..03:11
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Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup03:12
Dr_WillisPaddy_EIRE,  with the cp command.03:12
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Paddy_EIRE<Dr_Willis> cheers, and i just have to delete the line? why do i not type false03:13
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Dr_WillisPaddy_EIRE,  put in false then.. put in "Please work for me" :P  put in "Klaxto barato Nicto" ---- OR google for the problem and learn what all the options do.. and why   it defaults to FALSE when the line is not there. :P03:13
Paddy_EIRE<Dr_Willis> lol03:14
Paddy_EIREi get it03:14
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Dr_WillisEditing the xorg.conf is not Rocket-Surgery :P03:14
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: I can see said the blind man03:14
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amorph_exit03:15
Jack_SparrowDr_Willis: You almost made me spew my morning coffee03:15
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Paddy_EIREis it  "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or gksudo im thinking gk?03:15
dalanii need to see the dmseg log thankswhere????03:15
Jack_Sparrowgksudo03:15
Dr_WillisJack_Sparrow,  :)03:15
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dermothHi there. I have a debian source package, need some help making a compiled package from it...03:16
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: BTW.. good morning my friend03:16
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james296why do I get these errors when I try to install items in Synaptic?03:16
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james296E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 303:17
james296E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured03:17
james296E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured03:17
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Jack_Sparrowbintut: I have used the reconstructor script and it works fine03:17
Acegikmocan anyone give me a hand? I want to format the hard drive grub is on but first I'll need to install grub on my current harddrive03:17
dermothAnyone can help please?? I have a debian source package, need some help making a compiled package from it...03:17
bintutJack_Sparrow: is there a .deb package for reconstructor?03:17
Jack_Sparrowjames296: HAve you changed any of your sources.list  have you used Automatix or easyubuntu?03:18
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Jack_Sparrowbintut: yes03:18
james296yeah I have used Automatix03:18
Jack_Sparrowbintut: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=3303:19
dalaniI need To see the startup log ..is it dmseg?03:19
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james296well?03:19
Jack_Sparrowjames296: Gawd I hate this...  People use their script then they come here for us to fix things03:19
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james296lol03:19
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dalaniat least the rest works jack03:20
trzoniol551303:20
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Acegikmocan anyone give me a hand? I want to format the hard drive grub is on but first I'll need to install grub on my current harddrive03:20
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james296so what do I do to solve this problem?03:20
Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: third one so far today and it is only 6:20 am here03:20
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FirstStrikehaha..same. west coast :)03:20
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FirstStrike!automatix03:21
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.03:21
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bintutJack_Sparrow: i checked the site you gave to me, only in .tar.gz files03:21
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nataraj_if i install the xfce-base and all dependencies, how do i make it the default desktop environment, replacing gnome?03:22
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nt13hello everyone ! Can anybody help me with soundcard configuration?03:22
FirstStrikenataraj_: logout, change your session to xfce-base on the login menu and upon logging in it'll ask you if you'd like to make it your default session. click yes.03:22
james296if I uninstall automatix would that solve my problem?03:23
davinHi, id like to tinker abit with XGL/Compiz, but last time I did that I had to reinstall my system, whats the most efficient way to backup my system? Or should I just do it the old-fashioned way by cp'ing / ?03:23
dalaniQuite simple: I put a startup script in init.d to start my wvdial on boot up. just so regular users can access the internet without needing the root passwrd03:23
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EmxBAafi: you need help? :)03:23
nataraj_ok..thnx03:23
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dalanido some ou have more than one users on your computers?03:24
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nt13I've 2 soundcard installed (audigy2 + cm8x [onboard] ) ... card drivers r installed properly... but cm8x is set as 1st card03:24
Jack_Sparrowbintut: I still have the beta deb here but the tar isnt hard to setup or use.03:24
nataraj_1 more... i have a sound blaster 16 card. i see that it doesn't support GStreamer. so how do i make my soundcard work?03:24
nt13while i'd like to use Audigy2 as first card03:24
Neo8750nt13: did you disable it in bios??03:24
goldfishhow do i know if 3d accel is enabled03:24
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FirstStrikent13: the easiest way to do this is to simply disable the onboard sound card in your bios.03:25
Neo8750nt13: unless you want both cards in the system03:25
VegetaWhy can I not mark packages that i want to install in "Synaptic Package Manager". Every time i mark one, it says that I have to mark additional ones, the problem is that I cant even mark additional ones, I can only click "cancel" or "mark". And when I do press mark it says "Could not mark all packages for installation..." and some error with "Unsolvable dependencies". What does that mean ???03:25
james296how do I at least reset my script.list or whatever the heck its called03:25
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Jack_Sparrow!easysource > james29603:25
davinHi, id like to tinker abit with XGL/Compiz, but last time I did that I had to reinstall my system, whats the most efficient way to backup my system? Or should I just do it the old-fashioned way by cp'ing / ?03:25
bintutJack_Sparrow: can you send to me the beta deb package?03:26
nataraj_do i have to download the drivers from the alsa site and compile or what?03:26
nt13goldfish: run glxinfo command... see if direct rendering says Yes or No03:26
Adamcan any one help me with a NIC problem and ubuntu?03:26
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Adamdmesg said the module is loaded03:26
nt13No means that 3d accel isn't workin'03:26
Paddy_EIRE<james296> instead of using automatix or easyubuntu try using http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper03:26
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Neo8750Vegeta: you need to fix broken pakages03:26
VegetaNeo8750: How?03:26
Adambut ifup eth0 gives network is unreacable03:26
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Neo8750Vegeta: under edit in synaptic03:27
Neo8750in the menu03:27
KameliWhat is JPEG Factory support?03:27
FirstStrikedavin: there's several backup tools, howver cping your / directory would work just as well.03:27
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nataraj_guess i am becoming lazy. i'll try to find out what's wrong. :)03:27
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> could you tell me how you got the whole top panel to be transparent03:27
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KameliWhat is JPEG Factory support?03:27
FirstStrikedavin: i recommend this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl03:27
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: in a minute03:27
eyequeue!repeat03:27
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience03:27
Paddy_EIREsure03:27
KameliWhat is JPEG Factory support? What package i must download that i can get support for that? :)03:27
davinFirstStrike: Yeah I saw that, Was about to try it out but thought back of last time so im making a backup now so I can tinker with anything I want ;-003:28
nt13neo8750: i'd like to have both cards running .. is there anything I can do?03:28
Jack_Sparrowbintut: I looked but didnt see it off hand.. Lost of gigs here..  If I see it I will set it aside03:28
FirstStrikesmart move. making backups of anything before you do a major change should be common practice.03:28
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Neo8750nt13: i personally don't know i was going to sya just disable the one but...03:28
justin_Does the "radeon" driver for Ubuntu, support 3d hardware acceleration?03:29
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VegetaNeo8750: That didn't help... Nothing happens when I press at that. ANd when I mark something to install it says the same as before.03:29
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Neo8750try updating the package lists03:29
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: right click panel .. properties... background... solid.. set transparancy03:29
justin_Jack_Sparrow: Great game by the way :)03:30
Jack_SparrowGlad you like it03:30
FirstStrikent13: open your volume control and try File > Change Device and select the sound card you want to use.03:30
Neo8750Vegeta: hit reload03:30
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Vegetaok, it'll need internet connection, i just have to get the computer online and I'll try that the03:30
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow>yes, but it doesnt make the part where Applications Places And System transparent? just the panel where one would put icons03:31
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Paddy_EIREnor the clock??? looks weird03:31
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davinFirstStrike: Yeah...tell me about it, hehe.03:31
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VegetaNeo8750: That didn't help at all...03:31
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Odd.. What have you done THIS time.. mine is all transp.. or the same as the icon bar..03:32
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Neo8750werid i don't know03:32
VegetaI wanted to install "kubuntu-desktop"03:32
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Please note I am teasing you partly because I know you03:32
dalaniI to let other users use my MS in dual boot to use the internet03:32
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davinFirstStrike: Can I just go to the directory I want to copy to and 'cp <source>' ?   Or do I have to 'cp <source> <destination>' ?03:33
james296how do I know where my key ID is?03:33
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Paddy_EIRElol03:33
FirstStrikeVegeta: have you tried running sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop from a terminal?03:33
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VegetaIt says "Depends: ***** but is not going to be installed" :S03:33
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> i found a guy in the forums just now with a similar problem...here we go again lol03:33
james296anyone?03:33
FirstStrikedavin: cp / /where/you/want/it03:33
VegetaFirstStrike: Yeah, but there is something wrong with the commands then :/03:34
davinFirstStrike: okay, so no need to cd to the directory ;] 03:34
Jack_SparrowVegeta:  I have to ask, have you used Automatix or Easyubuntu?03:34
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davinFirstStrike: Huh, tells me something like 'Folder / is being skipped (my translation)03:34
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VegetaJack_Sparrow: Don't know what those are...03:34
FirstStrikedavin: it's your root directory so you will need to run sudo03:35
Jack_SparrowVegeta: Good.. thanks03:35
VegetaWhat is the command to install it trhough the terminal?03:35
bintutJack_Sparrow: it's ok.. thanks anyway.. :)03:35
davinFirstStrike: I did..03:35
davinFirstStrike: sudo cp / /media/usbdisk/bak03:35
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quiet!RestrictedFormats03:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
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Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2300003:36
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FirstStrikesorry, you can't just copy /03:36
goldfishit says this Mesa GLX Indirect03:36
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goldfishguess that means off03:37
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davinFirstStrike: sorry, im kinda new at moving files in nix :)03:37
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rggbizarre little thing happened here03:37
Jack_SparrowPAddy, what happens when you try to make the bottom trans03:37
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rggyesterday,ubuntu would play mp3 files perfectly03:37
juani have aspell installed with english language pack and it works when i use it on a file but when i use aspellfox (basically a scrpit that calls it) it used to work but now calims i dont have any dictonaries. any ideas?03:37
rggi didnt even turn the computer off! and now it won't play mp3s anymore03:37
shadeofgreyhey does anybody know what the channel name is for trhe channel dedicated to osx03:38
VegetaFirstStrike: I wrote it as: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" but it says "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/ - open (ll resource temporarly unavaibale). E: Unable to lock the administration directory, is another press using it?"03:38
shadeofgreythis is going to sound real lame but i JUST brought home my new mac laptop and i havent the slightest idea how to use the damn thing03:38
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davinVegeta: is synaptic open?03:38
Vegetalol03:38
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: What are the settings in your theme manager for controls, borders and icons03:39
Vegetayeah I found out. But is says: E: Broken Packages03:39
VegetaHow do is fix them trhough the terminal03:39
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> 1 sec03:39
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goldfishhow do i turn 3d accel on03:39
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davinVegeta: apt-get install -f03:39
Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: Did you look at his sources list yet?03:39
tiz-Hello all - im trying to run xterm on a certain font with the command "xterm -font sabvga" and im getting this error - can anyone help?? --   X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)03:39
eyequeueshadeofgrey, is it an intel mac or a powerpc mac?03:39
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shadeofgreyintel03:40
FirstStrikedavin: do sudo aptitude install sbackup03:40
user-landhello, what do you recommend to generate a html foto album ?03:40
sushimakoi cannot install jack (the audio cd ripper) because it depends on vorbis-tools and flac, which are virtual packages. what can i do?03:40
FirstStrikeJack_Sparrow: no, i haven't really gotten a chance03:40
ephemerosyo! \m/03:40
quietuser-land: gallery203:40
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user-landthanks, quiet.03:40
rggyesterday,ubuntu would play mp3 files perfectly,i didnt even turn the computer off...and now it won't play mp3s anymore03:40
davinFirstStrike: Installed, how do I start it up?03:41
rggtotem won't play them,amarok won't play them,and,i think you guys get it.03:41
Losty1981rgg: yeah real consistent huh03:41
Oni-Draculasushimako, maybe if someone figured out how to remove such dependencies from the package it would install :)03:41
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: MAke a note of them, change them and see if it changes the problem03:41
eyequeueshadeofgrey, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/6.06/03:41
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justin_exit03:41
justin_oops :D03:41
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> Controls = MacOS-X, Windows Border = MacOS-X Icons = OSX ,  Although when i did the transparent bar from a default install before it did the same thing03:41
jayteehello all03:41
sushimakoOni-Dracula, haha :) why does it even _depend_ on it? i can use it without wanting to encode flac or vorbis.03:41
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shadeofgreyeyeque:  no you dont understand i need the channel name here on freenode for osx help03:42
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rggLosty1981: i don't get it,sorry,im kinda dumb when it comes to sarcasm :P03:42
eyequeueshadeofgrey, personally, i prefer http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso03:42
Oni-Draculasushimako, because devs are funny people03:42
Vegetadavin: You mean like "sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop"?? Because that gives an error too03:42
FirstStrikedavin: first, run sudo simple-backup-config03:42
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rggLosty1981: well,i can be sarcastic,but i rarely understand it03:42
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sushimakosounds broken to me03:42
Losty1981rgg: sorry I have been having similar "spooky" behaviour with my wireless networking03:42
FirstStrikeset it up how you want it03:42
Werdnaanybody know about 6to4 / IPv6 on Ubuntu?03:42
shadowhywindhi all, quick question how do you start in verbose mode?03:42
davinVegeta: no, -f will check and fix all broken packages on your system03:42
jayteeanyone know about mounting and accessing NTFS volumes?03:42
FirstStrikethen run sudo sbackupd to start the backup03:43
eyequeue!ntfs > jaytee03:43
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davinFirstStrike: so I add / to the Include list?03:43
rgganyway,about the mp3 support thing...03:43
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> you where right when i use Human it is all transparent bar the menus which im sure is normal03:43
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Adamany one know what SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable failed to bring up eth0 when doing ifup eth0 as sudo03:43
Adammeans?03:43
Losty1981rgg: have u tried automatix?03:44
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: So it is a glitch in that particular theme03:44
Vegetadavin: "sudo apt-get install -f" worked but installing kubuntu-desktop is saying the same as before.03:44
rggLosty1981: well,no.i have it here,let me try it03:44
erUSUL!automatix03:44
ubotuAutomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.03:44
FirstStrikedavin: by default it's setup to backup all of your system files.03:44
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> must report to the author03:44
blitznlwhere can I set WPA for my wireless eth? (6.06.1 LTS)03:44
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: Like the Dr says.. if it hurts when you do that.. dont do it..03:44
frogzooAdam: sounds like you don't have a driver for your nic03:44
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erUSULhe important part is _Use at your own risk_03:45
Adamfrogzoo: dmesg says the driver is working03:45
erUSULblitznl: it depends on your card/driver03:45
Losty1981erUSUL: Have their been problems?03:45
frogzooAdam: sudo ifconfig eth0 up03:45
davinFirstStrike: Meh, I got rid of everything and just including /, its backing up now, cheers03:45
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Jack_Sparrowrgg: Automatix is discouraged...03:45
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davinVegeta: hmm, well I dunno03:45
erUSULLosty1981: yes03:45
rggJack_Sparrow: why?03:45
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AdamSIOCADDRT: network is unreachable failed to bring up eth003:46
davinFirstStrike: too bad theres no progress bar03:46
molkkohow to get mozilla xulrunner working on dapper (i mean the standalone version without firefox)03:46
Adamthats what happens if I run that Frogzoo03:46
FirstStrikeBecause it has a tendancy to FUBAR your system.03:46
Jack_Sparrowrgg: It is about 7am here and I have seen three people with problems relating to the use of it.03:46
Paladinergg cos it is a bag of donkey do do03:46
Losty1981oh damn huh.. would it be possible it was automatix that somehow FUBARRed my networking??03:46
FirstStrikedavin: no, there isn't. you'll know when it's done when your system resources drop back down to 0 though :P03:46
blitznlerUSUL: it's an intell 2200bg.. :o03:46
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rggJack_Sparrow: USA?03:46
Jack_Sparrowyep03:46
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erUSULblitznl: that should work with network manager03:46
rggJack_Sparrow: 11am here in brazil03:46
erUSUL!networkmanager03:46
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager03:46
davinFirstStrike: how can I check my system resoures?03:46
rgganyway,it never gave me problems03:46
shadowhywindanyone know how to start in verbose mode??03:46
Jack_Sparrow!worksforme03:47
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:47
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FirstStrikedavin: run top in a command prompt or launch the system monitor from System > Administration > System Monitor03:47
Paladinergg, I can guarantee you it did, you just never noticed them03:47
Jack_Sparrowrgg: If it works 95% of the time it sounds good until you realize 1 in 20 will have a problem03:47
rggok then,so...03:47
blitznlerUSUL: I've checked network manager and it only allow me to set a WEP key..03:47
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rgghow can i make ubuntu play mp3 files?03:47
frogzooAdamDH: !mp303:48
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Paladinefollow the instructions from the restricted formats howto03:48
eyequeue!mp3 > rgg03:48
Paladine!restricted > rgg03:48
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rggsure03:48
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frogzooAdamDH: cat /etc/iftab03:48
Jack_Sparrowrgg: The problem is .. once that script uses non-ub sources there is no easy way back...03:49
rgglet ubuntu just update opera,which i don't even use...03:49
rggand i'll install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly03:49
Paladinethe problem is the script is a pile of poorly written junk03:49
Paladinelets not hold any punches here03:49
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Paladineit is utter carp03:49
erUSULblitznl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo03:49
Losty1981I'm sure they have the best of intentions hej03:49
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sushimako!jack > sushimako03:50
blitznlerUSUL: I'll work it through, thanks!03:50
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Jack_SparrowIf someone feels they MUST try it.. Just make a full backup first.... One line in CLI is all it takes to save the day03:50
rggoh.i already have the "ugly".03:50
davinFirstStrike: huh I dont get it, how can I check if its still backing up?03:50
rggand the good,and the bad.03:50
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AdamDHthis is not a wireless nic03:51
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FirstStrikedavin: because the script is still running.03:51
sushimako!flac > sushimako03:51
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rggin fact,i have almost all the gstreamer packages installed03:51
VegetaIt seems that I can't install any package or software, because it says: "'<name>' is not available in any software channel" why?03:51
ajaywhat can i do to optimise ubuntu for i686?03:51
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eyequeue!msgthebot > sushimako03:52
davinFirstStrike: but how can I see if it is?03:52
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FirstStrikedavin: i just told you.03:52
user-landquiet, how do i start gallery2 ?03:52
user-landalso, is it a security risk ?03:52
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davinFirstStrike: Im in top03:53
user-landi don't want to use apache and the multi user features anyway.03:53
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davinFirstStrike: I cannot see it though03:53
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eyequeueajay, sudo apt-get install linux-image-68603:53
Paladineuser-land, is your computer connected to the internet?03:53
goldfishhelp needed with gfx card setup no 3d accel and windows flicker when moved03:54
user-landyes, paladine.03:54
user-landi am looking for a simple html album generator.03:54
Paladinewell then, you have already opened it up to security risks03:54
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Losty1981--/FORMAT03:54
davinFirstStrike: cant I just copy all dirs one by one? (/etc /var /home etc)03:55
user-landpaladine, so ?03:55
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Paladinegalery2 shouldn't pose any larger a threat03:55
FirstStrikedavin: the only thing you really have to look at is the CPU usage. As long as it's backing up your cpu usage is going to be spiking well over 50%.03:55
user-landpaladine, how do i start it ?03:55
rggawesome!03:55
Paladineread the instructions would be a good start03:55
rggi have all the gstreamer packages suggested by https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html03:55
rggand i still can't play mp3 files03:55
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FirstStrikedo what you want03:55
POVaddctuser-land: you mean one that doesn't need apache+php+...?03:55
user-landpaladine you are so wise ...03:55
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davinIs there a terminal command to clear it? (like cls in dos)03:56
user-landyes, povaddct.03:56
FirstStrikehit H03:56
eyequeueclear (1)            - clear the terminal screen03:56
eyequeueclear (3ncurses)     - clear all or part of a curses window03:56
POVaddctuser-land: try easyGG03:56
ajayeyequeue, thanks mate anything else other than that?03:56
VegetaIt seems that I can't install any package or software, because it says: "'<name>' is not available in any software channel". Is there anyone who knnows why it does so?03:56
davinokay clear :-)03:56
eyequeueajay, that's it03:56
davineyequeue: cheers03:56
POVaddctuser-land: easyGG is just a shell script, you to install imagemagick and jhead for it03:57
POVaddctuser-land: s/you/you need03:57
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Losty1981So stay WELL clear from AUTOMATIX huh03:57
AdamDH http://www.adamhorden.co.uk/linux/ my dmesg output the error with ifup and the command Frogoo told me to run and the lcpci output03:57
Jack_SparrowVegeta:  Please post your sources.list to the Pastebin and provide link           gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup03:57
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ajayeyequeue, after getting that kernel any speed bursts?03:58
PaladineLosty1981, stay well clear of -any- "We will do it all for you" type script03:58
rggLosty1981: me?sure,i'll stay away from it03:58
Jack_SparrowLosty1981: Yes, or go there for hel when things go wrong03:58
davinGah, cant seem to backup any of 'em03:58
Paladineincluding automatix and easyubuntu03:58
eyequeueajay, you will need a reboot03:58
Jack_Sparrowhelp03:58
rggbut i still like my mp3 files.03:58
ajayyeah after that any speed change?03:58
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Losty1981DOes any one know when stable 6.1 is due?04:00
BazziLosty1981: it's 6.10 which means october 200604:00
Bazzi26th of october for this version04:00
Losty1981oh I didn't realize that was the naming convention04:01
Losty1981is that standard?04:01
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Paladine5 days before my birthday04:01
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VegetaJack_Sparrow: Should I just copy the content of "sources.list" and upload to that page?04:01
Jack_SparrowVegeta: yes04:02
eyequeue!schedule > Losty198104:02
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dirzahhh!!!04:03
dirzbitchx wont load ansi properly04:03
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Jack_SparrowVegeta: Almost time for me to head off to the beach.... I did want to see your source list first04:04
POVaddctdirz: why use bitchX? irssi is the choice04:04
VegetaIts uploading but going really slow 2 sec04:04
dirzPOVaddct: either way, ansi wont work.04:04
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dirzand i need to figure out why04:04
Jack_Sparrowk04:04
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POVaddctdirz: i think thats a terminal issue, not the irc client04:05
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PaladinePOV you answered your own question04:05
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Paladinehe uses bitchx cos it is his choice04:05
livingdaylightwhat is the command whichlets me see both hardrive and all the partitions?04:05
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livingdaylightdf -h04:05
dirzPOVaddct, your right, but ansi will not load on ANY terminal. gnome terminal, eterm, or xterm04:05
Jack_Sparrow!best04:05
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:05
ajay!gentoo04:05
ubotuOther Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware04:05
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ajay!ajay04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ajay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
ajay:)04:05
holzmodemhi im installed succesfully irda (Samsung p35), but now i cant connect to my mobilephone (Ericsson T630)... irdadump receive always 0 pakets, discover log is still empty.... someone an idea??04:06
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livingdaylightdf -h only shows me sdb and not sda. df -h /dev/sda doesn't work either04:07
johnpHi all.  I just installed ubuntu and was trying to get realplayer installed.  I used 'sudo apt-get install realplay' but received this error:  "E: Couldn't find package realplay"04:07
VegetaJack_Sparrow: Don't you know another page? That just keeps saying "Waiting for pastebin.com" it doesn't make any progress :S04:07
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Paladinepastebin.ca04:07
Jack_Sparrow!paste > Vegeta04:07
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eyequeue!restrictedformats > johnp04:08
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Jack_SparrowVegeta: Sorry but I did not say pastebin.com I just said to the pastebin as found in the channel topic04:08
dkhi04:08
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dkhow come i cannot close frozen programs04:08
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dkhow do i close them04:08
livingdaylightcan someone tell me?04:08
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dkfor example,  xmms wont close when i tell it to04:09
Paladinedk kill -9 PID <- where PID equals the PID of the process04:09
Jack_Sparrowlivingdaylight: you could run gparted04:09
dkhow can i identify the PID04:09
malice_Looking for games that can play on ubuntu can not find a good url... I would really like something that I can add to my source list04:09
user-landpovaddct, do you know if i can specify options ? easygg changes the orientation of some images and scales the target images against my wish.04:09
Paladinemalice_: check out www.transgaming.com04:10
malice_ty04:10
eyequeuebetter to start with kill -1504:10
dkyeah cedega is good04:10
jake1i have a .deb package...... how would i go about installing it?04:10
dkkill -15?04:10
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realistjake1: dpkg -i04:10
eyequeuejake1, sudo dpkg -i foo04:10
realist!dpkg04:10
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.04:10
bluefusionxlhey guys.  My how do I set up my network?  My samba isnt showing up04:10
Losty1981jake1: or use synaptic04:10
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bluefusionxlon my windows comp04:10
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dklol04:10
dkrun windows network setup wizard04:11
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dkhow can i identify what PID my xmms is right now04:11
dkcause it wont close04:11
Vegetahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23002 <-- there04:11
magnetdk: pidof xmms04:11
dkok ty04:11
Paladineps -x | grep xmms04:11
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jake1oh right ..... lol04:11
jake1nvm04:11
VegetaJack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23002 <-- here is the source.list04:11
POVaddctuser-land: there are no options. you can change the scaling by editing the script (look for -scale "640x480")04:11
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jake1Losty1981 wasn't on synaptic04:11
dkso you reccomend to kill with -15 or -904:11
magnet-904:11
jake1i have the .deb file on the desktop04:11
dkok04:11
AdamDHerm can any one help me with this network card issue?04:11
Paladine-904:12
dkty04:12
eyequeue-15 is safer04:12
POVaddctuser-land: the orientation is taken from the EXIF header of the files04:12
eyequeue-9 can cause zombies04:12
Paddy_EIREanyone in here use talktalk broadband???04:12
bobbob1016Can anyone help me setup my ipw2200?  It was working fine, then all of the sudden, after a few weeks of working, it decieded not to work anymore.04:12
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magneteyequeue: zombies are inherited with init which will wait() for them anyway04:12
gemeindebahello. recently i am experiencing lots of crashes of evolution and firefox. evolution crashes on me but offers to restart the application, after which the session runs fine. but firefox does totally lock up. i know how to kill the process, but i wonder, how can i find out what's going on?04:12
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magnetby init*04:12
nownotif i install windows via vmware will i be able to read/write ntfs partitions04:12
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abu_ama3maI need help mounting my NTFS drive from Ubuntu04:13
magnetgemeindeba: prolly bad RAM04:13
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dkok nice04:13
dkxmms has been killed04:13
eyequeuemagnet, until you give up and reboot :(04:13
bobbob1016I've been trying this thread, but when I got to the ./autogen.sh, it said I needed gnome-common from cvs04:13
Paddy_EIRE<gemeindeba> did you try running firefox from a terminal to see what happens04:13
user-landpovaddct, thanks, i found the lines changing the orientation and can comment them out, however how would i change the second convert line so the original images get copied over ?04:13
dknow do you have any idea why it would freeze?04:13
dkits a fresh installation of ubuntu04:13
Jack_SparrowFirstStrike: Did you see his sources list04:13
bobbob1016http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125150&highlight=ipw220004:13
Paladinemight not be bad ram, could be a hd fault04:13
nownotif i install windows via vmware will i be able to read/write ntfs partitions04:13
magneteyequeue: nah :) and zombies are just an entry in the process list, no big deal04:13
dkand i just booted up, opened up xmms, and told it to play04:14
eyequeuemagnet, apparently you haven't had many04:14
gemeindebaPaddy_EIRE, i shall try that, i refuse to believe (i cannot afford to believe) that the ram is faulty. been running happily quite some time04:14
dkto play my last url04:14
Paladinenownot, you should never try and write to ntfs from linux04:14
magnetdk: xmms is an old piece of junk :)04:14
Paladinexmms rocks my world :p04:14
dklol04:14
Jack_SparrowVegeta: Are you in Denmark?04:14
eyequeuedk, try bmp04:14
magneteyequeue: I have04:14
Paddy_EIRE<gemeindeba> i know what you mean04:14
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dkok04:14
dkwill bmp work in gnome04:14
eyequeuesure04:15
dkawesome04:15
gemeindebaPaddy_EIRE, thank god for ff plugins to restore a crashed session :)04:15
abu_ama3maHow can I get files from my NTFS drive and paste them to another computer on my network04:15
dkshould it be listed in add/rem?04:15
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POVaddctuser-land: i don't know what you mean. if you skip the orientation part, the images should just be copied over.04:15
dkabu: what platform04:15
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Paddy_EIRE<gemeindeba> yeah, which plugin does that??04:15
AdamDHadamhorden@xpc:~$ sudo ifup eth004:15
AdamDHSIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable04:15
AdamDHFailed to bring up eth0.04:15
VegetaJack_Sparrow: yes04:15
abu_ama3madk: what do you mean what platform04:15
dkwhat operating system04:15
eyequeuedk, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player04:15
crayzeeAnyone here using an AMD AM2 under Ubuntu?04:15
Paddy_EIRE<nownot>thats a good question04:15
bobbob1016can anyone help me with my ipw2200?04:16
abu_ama3madk: the drive is for Windows XP04:16
dkim using an amd athlon04:16
dkare both ends windows xp?04:16
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Jack_SparrowVegeta: Most of your repos have been rem'd out...04:16
Vegeta"rem'd out"?? what does that mean?04:16
gemeindebaPaddy_EIRE, it is part of the extenstion "Tab Mix Plus" as far as i know!04:16
Paladinewriting to an NTFS partition from linux is a good way to hose your ntfs partition04:16
Jack_SparrowVegeta: Did you make a backup with the command I gave you?04:16
user-landpovaddct, the orientation problem seems solved. however, i would like the target images to be full scale so people can print them with the original quality.04:16
abu_ama3madk: i'm using an amd athlon, and want to read the NTFS drive in my computer from ubuntu04:16
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Paladinethe only safe way to do it is to do so as a an smb share04:16
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VegetaNo, what would that make a backup of?04:17
POVaddctuser-land: ah, i understand04:17
dkyou would probably have to mount the drive04:17
gemeindebaPaddy_EIRE, i am one of the freaks who at least reads every extension description of ff. got the best collection i daresay :)04:17
Paddy_EIRE<gemeindeba> sounds good, do u use fasterfox and noscript really recommended04:17
Paladinentfs requires a live OS to function correctly04:17
dkread is ok04:17
dkjust dont write04:17
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Jack_SparrowVegeta: run this in term      sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup04:17
abu_ama3madk: i need to find out what instructions to use to mount it.04:17
Jack_Sparrowbrb04:17
user-landcould i replace the second 'convert' line with something like cat/copy ?04:17
dkoh04:17
zOrKI've got a little trouble with wireless04:17
dkmaybe these guys can help04:18
zOrKwho could help me04:18
dkim not exactly sure about the command04:18
gemeindebaPaddy_EIRE, fasterfox does put quite a strain on webservers and i have a couple of websites where the servers refuse my browser with fasterfox installed. of course i use noscript!04:18
dkboo, bmp is not listed in my add/rem04:18
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nidalhi all, can someone tell me how do I force synaptic to NOT use network proxy? coz, even though Ihave changed the network settings to "direct internet connectin" its still looking for the proxy04:18
abu_ama3maDoes anybody know how I can read from my NTFS hard drive from Ubuntu04:18
realist!ntfs04:18
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:18
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ProN00bgemeindeba, i thought fasterfox can be throtled so so it is more standards compilant ?04:18
POVaddctuser-land: change the second convert line to: cp "$FILE" "$SUBDIR/slide_$FILENAME"04:18
dkclick that link that ubotu sent04:19
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Paddy_EIRE<gemeindeba> i never new that about fasterfox!!...is there a quick way of disabling it when this happens04:19
POVaddctuser-land: that should do it04:19
dkabu04:19
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dkclick that link04:19
abu_ama3madk: yes i'll check that out04:19
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ProN00bgemeindeba, also, if you do the traffic now, you won't do it later, meaning you won't really put more strain on the server04:19
drizzAnyone here use 3ddesktop?04:19
VegetaJack_Sparrow: Now I have a copy of sources.list.. But for what use?04:19
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eyequeuedk, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player04:19
Jack_SparrowVegeta: Safety net04:20
dkty04:20
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IvanowitchHi. Does anyone know how to make the Linksys VPN client run under Ubuntu ?04:20
gemeindebaProN00b, yeah, but firefox makes too many request per time interval. coming from the same ip some servers don't like it. Paddy_EIRE never played around with the extension afterwards04:20
drizzAnyone here use 3ddesktop?04:20
zOrKI've got a little trouble with wireless, who could help me ?04:20
Paddy_EIRE<ProN00b> do you know what i should do to fasterfox to have it running in such a way or is the default install all i need04:20
dkcouldnt find package04:20
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dk:(04:20
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VegetaJack_Sparrow: What did you mean by "rem'd out"?? And what to do to fix it?04:20
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zOrKit is already configured, I've installed ndiswrapper and everything at it should be04:20
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eyequeue!repos > dk04:20
zOrKbut at the moment to try04:20
Paddy_EIRE<gemeindeba>do i need to do the about:config stuff04:20
Jack_SparrowVegeta: gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list    and remove the # and space in front of all the debs in your list04:20
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gemeindebaabu_ama3ma, http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php check this site04:20
eyequeue!info beep-media-player04:21
ProN00bPaddy_EIRE, i think you can set it to standarts compilant mode in its settings04:21
ubotubeep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB04:21
dkim not sure how repos work04:21
eyequeuedk, you need universe04:21
bobbob1016does anyone have an ipw2200 here?04:21
Paddy_EIRE<ProN00b>k, and this wont bother any servers04:21
eyequeue!repos > dk04:21
dkok04:21
gemeindebaPaddy_EIRE, well thats the idea of the extension, so no, you don't need to change that manually anymore after that extension is installed i think04:21
ProN00bPaddy_EIRE, never say never04:21
dk!repos04:21
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:21
eyequeuedk, follow the bot04:21
dkk04:21
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Paddy_EIRE<ProN00b> i suppose i should read a little more about these extensions04:22
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nidalcan someone tell me why snaptic is still looking for proxy , when I have changed the network setting to "direct internet connection" ?04:22
VegetaJack_Sparrow: Only from infront of the "deb"?04:22
dkok, brb, got some reading to do :D04:22
dkthanks guys04:22
ProN00bPaddy_EIRE, also you could try to contact its developers and tell them alot of people would appreciate a fast-disable button (as most plugins have nowadays)04:22
jake1how do i set paths04:23
gemeindebacan anybody tell me how to remove an icon from my desktop that is actually a link to a network share? i cannot move it to the garbage bin (wont drop there) and a right mouse click offers me among others to unmount, which i don't want04:23
ProN00bPaddy_EIRE, seriously, do that04:23
Jack_SparrowVegeta: YEs, only in front of the lines with Deb     then    Go back into system... admin... synaptic04:23
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Vegetaand next?04:23
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Jack_SparrowVegeta: reload04:23
ProN00bgemeindeba, yeah, your like the 3rd person having this problem, it kinda sucks that gnome developers feel its better to do it thid way, flame them04:24
itrebali've got ruby1.9 installed but it doesn't create a symlink/binary to 'ruby' - instead its named 'ruby1.9' - is it safe to symlink this to 'ruby'? or is there steps to take to do it right04:24
goldfishwant my tv card to find channels help04:24
gemeindebaProN00b, ok, so there is no solution to remove these icons?04:24
Paladinegemeindeba, unmount the share and it will disappear from the desktop04:24
ProN00bitrebal, ruby is bad, don't use it04:24
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user-landthank you, povaddct, it works. you see this canon camera rotates the images depending on the way you hold the camera while you take the picture, so they don't need to be rotated again.04:24
VegetaJack_Sparrow: It upgraded the packages?04:24
Fuzzhello04:25
itrebalProN00b: nothing i can do about it04:25
gemeindebaPaladine, i am scared of unmounting anything as the mounting thing to a w2k3 server is still a big mistery to me :)04:25
IvanowitchDoes anyone know how to connect to a Linksys VPN server from ubuntu? Their own client is RedHat/SUSE only :(04:25
ProN00bgemeindeba, i think there is somewhere, but i think you can either remove them all or none (or just the network connection icons, but i am not sure about that)04:25
Fuzzim using fglrx drivers now, but they mess up my resolution and i cant get dualmonitor to work04:25
Paddy_EIRE<ProN00b>after i install an extension where does the documentation go?04:25
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Jack_Sparrowgemeindeba: To Remove Icons from Desktop Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable04:25
Fuzzcan someone help me?04:25
dkwhats a good program to edit /etc/apt/sources.list with04:25
POVaddctuser-land: my camera doesn't do that, and it also sets nothing in the EXIF header, so i must rotate the pics myself :(04:25
Jack_SparrowVegeta: try and install something simple04:25
VegetaJack_Sparrow: But I now have 2 of every locations to the left: like "Email" and "Email (universe)", what are the differences?04:25
gemeindebaPaddy_EIRE, check in tools / extensions click on the extension and check options04:25
ladydoorProN00b: i would like to politely request not asking people to flame others, but perhaps instead asking them instead to make a suggestion04:26
eyequeuedk, nano04:26
gemeindebaJack_Sparrow, thanks i will try that immediately04:26
Jack_SparrowVegeta: different repos04:26
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Fuzzinfact i dont even mind that dualmonitor doesnt work, just my screen resolution is really bad04:26
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Paddy_EIRE<gemeindeba>k, nice one got it04:26
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ladydoordk: gedit, nano, kedit, or if you already know these programs, vim or emacs04:26
dkok04:26
user-landpovaddct, is it a good camera ?04:26
PaladineFuzz, no offense but ATI sucks for linux04:26
ProN00bladydoor, thats the same04:27
Adamfinally got my NIC up04:27
Fuzzwell yes, i noticed04:27
Fuzzbut thats what i gotta work with04:27
ladydoorProN00b: i thought that "flaming" was yelling at someone04:27
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POVaddctuser-land: not too expensive, 4 megapixel, i bought it in spring of 200404:27
justin_Nano is the best.. :)04:27
ProN00bladydoor, nah04:27
ladydoor!best04:27
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:27
ladydoorProN00b: oh. cool04:27
justin_!botsnack04:28
ubotuYum!04:28
justin_Settle down boy04:28
VegetaJack_Sparrow: Great thank you it's working now. I can mark them and it is downloading package files now. :)04:28
justin_:)04:28
ProN00bladydoor, is there any non crappy gui editor you know ? (you only mentionned crappy ones: gedit, kedit)04:28
nidalcan some one please tell me why synaptic is not taking the network setting "direct connection to internet " and WRONGLY look for proxy ?04:28
gemeindebaJack_Sparrow, thank you! works like a charm. makes me feel so inadequate as well :)04:28
eyequeueProN00b, flaming developers is uncool04:28
justin_ProN00b: Mousepad.04:28
itrebalwould it be unsafe to symlink 'ruby1.9' to 'ruby' ?04:28
zOrKwireless trouble: I've got an already identified wireless driver through ndiswrapper, but at the time which I try to get some wireless network doing iwlist eth1 scan.. it does not seems no appear nothing!!, when I do a ndiswrapper -l , it says " .. hardward present. what could be? what can I do ?04:28
ProN00bjustin_, mousepad is a step in the right direction, but it has no syntax highlighting *sob*04:28
Jack_SparrowVegeta: Glad to help.. you owe thanks to FirstStrike as well, he worked hard to try and help you04:28
ladydoorProN00b: i don't use gui programs if i can avoid it04:28
ladydoorProN00b: so no04:28
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justin_ProN00b: That's true.. - but it still is one of the best, for now...04:29
Jack_Sparrowgemeindeba: Glad it worked04:29
ProN00beyequeue, in contrary, its the only thing that drives software development04:29
Paladinethere is nothing wrong with gedit04:29
Jack_SparrowPeople, it has been fun.. off to the beach.. cya04:29
eyequeueProN00b, no, glames are counterproductive04:29
VegetaYeah I thank every here to be so helpfull, great great people and channel.04:29
VegetaCya04:29
eyequeueProN00b, send a polite informative bug report instead04:29
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ProN00bPaladine, gedit looks like a text file web browser with those hueg buttons and its crappy always displaying tabs04:30
Adamthere is a website list software for ubuntu like a wiki style page with good info ran by some linux group at a university any one got any ideas what the website address is?04:30
ladydoorProN00b: so use nano. *shrug*04:30
Paladineso turn the buttons off04:30
ProN00beyequeue, i am not talking about bugs there04:30
jacobmp92ProNOOB: You can shrink the buttons and turn off the tabs ;)04:30
Paladinecomplaining about buttons doesn't make an editor carp04:30
ProN00bladydoor, nano is also pretty cool, but its not gui04:30
jacobmp92exactly, gedit is awesome04:31
Paladinenano is gui04:31
Paladinejust not a gtk gui04:31
jacobmp92:p04:31
Paladineit uses ncurses04:31
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eyequeueProN00b, send a polite informative request then04:31
ProN00bPaladine, so you like it if half your screen is taken over by friggin buttons ?04:31
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ProN00bjacobmp92, how ?_?04:31
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PaladineProN00b, turn the damn buttons off, flaming something for the sake of flaming it is about as lame as it gets04:31
jacobmp92ProN00B: turn ogg the buttons... -.-04:31
ladydoorProN00b: can i suggest this discussion be continued in #ubuntu-offtopic or in a private message?04:31
jacobmp92off*04:31
ProN00bPaladine, nano is not a gui, its cli04:31
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jacobmp92its a gui04:32
jacobmp92just not gtk04:32
Chousukehm04:32
ladydoorProN00b: actually, a CLI would be bash04:32
adminxGood to know nano or vi if X breaKs and you are left with a prompt.04:32
zOrKwireless trouble: I've got an already identified wireless driver through ndiswrapper, but at the time which I try to get some wireless network doing iwlist eth1 scan.. it does not seems no appear nothing!!, when I do a ndiswrapper -l , it says " .. hardward present. what could be? what can I do ?04:32
jacobmp92same with vim, alsamixer, mc, etc04:32
ChousukeGUI means graphical user interface04:32
Chousukeit's a TUI04:32
tizwonhello all - when i run "glxinfo | grep direct" i get this error: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) - any idea?04:32
ProN00bnano is text mode, it runs in a console04:32
jacobmp92its still a UI, if not a GUI04:32
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justin_tizwon: you need to add "rendering" to the argument.04:32
shadowhywindzork- look in dmesg see if there is a error message04:32
shadowhywindquestion - when i turn acpi on, my computer freezes on configureing network devices. Anyone have any ideas?04:32
jacobmp92im a vim fanboy but i wont start that here ;)04:32
justin_glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"04:32
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tizwonok04:33
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Fuzzwhat videocards work best under ubuntu?04:33
Blissexshadowhywind: out telepathic advisers are all busy on other lines :-)04:33
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shadowhywindBlissex:: *blinks*04:33
tizwonjustin_, i still get this error after typing "flxinfo | grep direct rendering -  X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)04:33
justin_Fuzz: I would say Nvidia's, because my Radeon experience has been horrible.04:33
adminxHey, I,ve become a Ubuntu fanboy so what :)04:33
justin_tizon with quotes04:33
PaladineChousuke, gui is a totally subjective definition, ncurses uses a graphical interface, it just uses ascii charset to make those graphical elements, but they are still graphical04:33
justin_glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" <-- exactly like that.04:33
Blissexshadowhywind: however what you say is rather unlikely, unless it is a PCI interrupts routing problem and your MB is a bit broken.04:34
tizwonjustin_, still get the same error with quotes =(04:34
jacobmp92glxinfo | grep rendering        --also works04:34
Blissexshadowhywind: try to disable IRQ routing/assignment via ACPI.04:34
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justin_tizwon: That's strange, works over here...04:34
shadowhywindblissex: how would i do that?04:34
tizwonhrm...04:34
quiethow do i change the samba workgroup.. just edit smb.conf? or is there some app that'll do it for me?04:35
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eyequeueProN00b, http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/flame.html  not useful with developers04:35
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tizwonjustin_, now i try the same command as root and get this - Error: unable to open display (null)04:35
Blissexshadowhywind: various kernel boot options. Check the list thereof.04:35
nidalcan someone please tell me why synaptic is still looking for proxy when I have set as "direct connection to internet " in the network seting of synaptic ?04:36
justin_eyequeue: Saying that the buttons are too big is not really flaming it is true, some Ubuntu apps - and a lot of others simply put too much graphics on programs that should have minimal graphics - such as text editors.04:36
Blissexshadowhywind: try 'acpi=on,noirq pci=noacpi'04:36
Paladinenidal, I can tell you one thing, asking the same question over and over and over again, will not yield any results, I suggest you reboot or restart Xorg04:36
Blissexnidal: environment variable?04:36
adminxQuestion: Does XGL work with Matrox or Sis? I know it does not with Intel, however AIGLX covers Intel.04:36
justin_tizwon: That is really strange, I am sorry I have no idea why you would get that error - perhaps you should search google, for the message and command.04:37
eyequeuejustin_, he stated re: flaming: <ProN00b> eyequeue, in contrary, its the only thing that drives software development04:37
Paladineaiglx for matrox04:37
nidalthanx blissex and paladine. But I have set all the variables and I can use wget without any issue04:37
nidalonly with synaptic04:37
PaladineI don't think SiS is supported04:37
zOrKwireless trouble: I've got an already identified wireless driver through ndiswrapper, but at the time which I try to get some wireless network doing iwlist eth1 scan.. it does not seems no appear nothing!!, when I do a ndiswrapper -l , it says " .. hardward present. what could be? what can I do ? what can I do besides a dmesg ?04:37
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m0dYhow to install "gpm" on ubuntu 6.0 ?04:37
jacobmp92tizwon: search synaptic for fglrx, i think that is what you need04:37
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adminxReally, did not know that, thanks alot.04:37
zOrKm0dY sudo apt-get install gpm04:37
Paladinenidal, try following my advice instead of arguing it when you haven't tried04:37
nidalI have /etc/wgetrc , /etc/environment and /etc/profile04:37
eyequeue!info gpm04:37
ubotugpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB04:37
jacobmp92tizwon: change that to glx actually04:38
eyequeuem0dY, enable universe04:38
m0dYz0rk, it's saying that it's referred by anoth pkg04:38
justin_jacobmp92: HEH04:38
justin_heh.. even04:38
Blissexnidal: or you may have set proxying at the APT level. Check in '/etc/apt/'04:38
m0dYeyequeue: universe ?04:38
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jacobmp92:-p04:38
Paladinenidal ,restart X04:38
Paladinesynaptic is gtk based04:38
Paladinewget is not04:38
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eyequeue!repos > m0dY04:38
nidalno blissex , I have checked that also, so I will try to restart X04:38
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tizwonjacobmp92, what do you mean? what command should i type exaclty.04:38
nidalthanx for your help04:38
jacobmp92tizwon: system> admin > synaptic, search for glx04:39
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m0dYeyequeue: so i need to install another pkgs before install gpm ?04:39
eyequeuem0dY, no, enable universe04:39
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tizwonjacobmp92, ok, it displays alot of packages :)04:39
justin_tizwon: And when you are done installing the driver, open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in sudo, and find the "DRIVER" section and change "ati" or "radeon" to --- "fglrx"04:39
m0dYeyequeue: where to enable universe ?04:40
eyequeuem0dY, read what the bot told you04:40
jacobmp92tizwon: is mesa-utils installed?04:40
eyequeue!repos > m0dY04:40
justin_Tiz, search --- fglrx04:40
m0dYwell, reading04:40
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tizwonjacobmp92, yes04:40
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m0dYin deb sarge it was just "apt-get install gpm04:40
m0dY"04:40
jacobmp92hmmm04:40
justin_Tiz, also when you are done editing xorg.conf, restart your x server -crtl-alt-backspace.04:40
jacobmp92thats odd04:40
m0dYaha04:40
tizwonjacobmp92, the command glxinfo WORKS, but provides errors04:40
m0dYuniverse is a repo :)04:40
raghu206whats the software for playing windows files on ubuntu04:40
eyequeuem0dY, in ubuntu, enable universe04:40
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jacobmp92ah, i see now04:40
wizardls04:40
m0dYwhy didn't you said that :)04:41
wizardoops xD04:41
quietraghu206: "windows files"??04:41
ladydoorraghu206: windows *media* files?04:41
tizwonjacobmp92, just says Error: unable to open display (null)04:41
quietraghu206: .wma?04:41
Paladine!restricted > raghu20604:41
jacobmp92try restarting X if you changed something04:41
wizardHow do I wrap around the workspace listing? I want to go from workspace 8  to workspace 1 and back again.04:41
eyequeue!restrictedformats > raghu20604:41
raghu206quiet, executable files04:41
wizardHow do I do this?04:41
tizwondidnt change anything :/04:41
quietwine?04:41
m0dYso why isn't gpm in the ubuntu main repo's ?04:41
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Losty1981alright....formatted ....reinstalled.....wireless UP!04:41
ladydoorraghu206: ah, .exe's? you need wine04:41
Paladineraghu206, you don't run windows executables in linux04:41
eyequeuem0dY, because it is in universe04:41
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raghu206ladydoor, other than wine04:42
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infidelanyone here run war3 with wine?04:42
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sarikanhi04:42
ionhow can I bypass bios password ?04:42
jacobmp92infidel, check the wine site, there is a faq i believe04:42
eyequeuem0dY, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components04:42
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Paladinereset the bios to factory defaults04:42
sarikancan I play counter strike source while it is setup in a ntfs partition?04:42
m0dYeyequeue: i see that universe isn't somehow recommended in the /etc/apt/sources.list04:42
Paladineusing the jumper04:42
ladydoorraghu206: errrr...wine is the program  generally used to run windoze binaries on wine. if it's old enough you might try dosbox or some such04:42
fredlcompiz is wild....04:42
infideljacobmp92: ok thanks04:43
erUSULion: reset the cmos memory (most mobos have a jumper or switch to do that)04:43
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eyequeuem0dY, it is not enabled by default04:43
ladydoorm0dY: it's turned off by default because it's not supported by the ubuntu devel team itself but by the community04:43
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m0dYaha i see04:43
ladydoorm0dY: similarly, multiverse is not enabled because its packages are non-free04:43
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fredlanybody here have compiz running?04:43
Paladineyes04:43
sarikanfredl: I am using it at the moment04:43
eyequeuemain, but it comes with no guarantee of security fixes and support. The universe    did you read that m0dY?04:43
erUSULfredl: #ubuntu-xgl04:44
raghu206ladydoor, do u think dosbox works better than wine04:44
fredl'k04:44
m0dYeyequeue: yeah04:44
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sarikanany ideas about wine and cs source?04:44
Neo8750raghu206: for dos probly=)04:44
m0dYi'm little concerned about security tho04:44
ladydoorraghu206: for dos04:44
sarikancan I use it on an ntsf partition?04:44
justin_Wine.. is bad04:44
erUSULraghu206: they are totally different is like comparing apples to oranges04:44
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sarikanmy problem is I have cs in a windows partition04:45
justin_If you want to play windows games in Ubuntu, I would suggest CEDEGA -- it works pretty well, although it is not "free"04:45
Neo8750if youwant to gameyou most likely want winex04:45
ladydoorjustin_: or free04:45
Paladinecedega is free to build from cvs04:45
sarikanI don't mind paying for cedega04:45
Ackeubu_i have this root for my kernel in my grub list. "root=UUID=7ccaa194-f407-47c2-a90b-ac9e2c43f491" How is that generated?04:45
Paladineit is not free for the precompiled binaries04:45
sarikanbut I don't want to resize my partitions04:45
ChousukePaladine: The CVS Cedega sucks04:45
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sarikansince cs is on the ntfs partition in windows04:45
justin_ladydoor: Go play with their sources, and try to sell them - see how long it takes before your in court :)04:45
PaladineChousuke, did Isay it doesn't suck? no, I just said it is free04:45
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ChousukePaladine: it's worse than normal wine :P04:46
ubuntu-noviceNeed help: my tty is not appearing when I press Ctrl + Alt + F1-6. Any idea what's wrong?  The last thing I had done was installing nVidia drivers.  However, I had rebooted after that.04:46
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weswh-_i see libfox 1.4 in synaptic (fox gui toolkit), but i am looking for 1.6, is there any place to look for newer packages?04:46
eyequeuedfsg-free?04:46
sarikanubuntu-novice04:46
ladydoorjustin_: i wasn't disagreeing with you, i was saying that it's unfree in all senses of the word04:46
justin_ahhh04:46
weswh-_i have the universe and whatever other repo's added.04:46
sarikanthis is about removing a line from some config file04:46
ladydoorjustin_: (or at least all those associated with software)04:46
sarikanI had the same problem04:46
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sarikanI believe it's about grub files04:47
sarikanwait a sec..04:47
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eyequeueso no freedom to modify and rerelease cedega?04:47
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jfletchereyequeue: no04:47
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m0dYis there a way to make apt-get use multithreaded downloads?04:48
Ackeubu_Hey can i recompile my source? When i run make menuconfig in /usr/src/linix i get errors04:48
eyequeuethat bites04:48
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m0dYlike opening multiple connections to the same source to improve speed?04:48
eyequeuem0dY, hammering on the volunteer mirrors? :(04:48
ladydoorm0dY: probably not, since the mirrors get hit hard enough without it04:49
sarikanubuntu-novice:04:49
sarikanedit menu.lst in /boot/grub04:49
simpohello! i've configured my XDM to listen for incoming connection. I can connect to my XDM server (i get login box) but when i type my login/password there is no desktop visable :/ how can i configure XDM to start XFCE for remote users ?04:49
sarikanand make sure your kernel line is like this (of course your partition will be different)04:49
sarikankernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda6 ro quiet04:49
m0dYyeah no doubt04:49
sarikanthere was something like splash or04:50
sarikansimilar there04:50
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sarikanthat's the problem with nvidia drivers and04:50
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sarikanlosing the console after you boot04:50
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sarikanit has worked for me04:50
sarikanare you around buddy?04:50
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erUSUL!enter04:51
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.04:51
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raghu206erUSUL, can i get software something works like wine04:51
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GargoyleAfter help from some of the peeps in here a few weeks ago, I manages to get postfix, dovecot and mysql all working nicely. I am now retracing my steps and creating a single document for the procedure.04:52
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ladydoorraghu206: wine's your best free option04:52
GargoyleIf you know of any other resources or existing documents, plz let me know.04:52
ladydoorraghu206: and i don't know about the non-free ones.04:52
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m0dYis there a way to do an exclude list for the apt-get to prevent some pkgs from being available to be installed/updated/upgraded ?04:52
Xtevenhere's a link for anyone suffering with P965 or core 2 duo stuff04:53
Xtevenhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support04:53
eyequeueGargoyle, putting it on the wiki?04:53
PaladineI wouldn't recommend using mysql with dovecot04:53
erUSULraghu206: i did not understand your question... wine is the root of all other windows comp layer cedega and crossover office both are forks of wine04:53
Paladineit works fine but it is a bit of an uneeded resource overhead for email04:53
realistDidn't know there were any issues with Core 2 Duo?04:53
Xtevennot core 2 duo04:54
Xtevenbut the chipset it uses04:54
Xtevenp96504:54
Xtevenit no longer has an ide bus04:54
Gargoyleeyequeue: Hopefully once I have completed it. I am pulling together info from help.ubuntu.com and the wiki04:54
Xtevenso most people (who have ide cdrom devices) can't boot04:54
eyequeueGargoyle, great, thanks04:54
Gargoyleand a few missing bits that were filled in by people here.04:54
Gargoyle:)04:54
Ackeubu_can i regenerate my fstab mounts? ubuntu fstab has a coded system for mountpoints so instead of /dev/sda4 i get a UUID=003F-ADF5??04:54
XtevenI tried instlux, but no help04:55
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raghu206erUSUL, how can i play real player installed on windows using wine04:55
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magnetAckeubu_: it seems you're using LVM04:56
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erUSULraghu206: i do not use wine myself with programs installed on a windows partition so i do not know. i use it to run the standalone executable of utorrent04:56
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infidelraghu206: why don't you just get real for linux04:57
knapperHi, does anybody know how to get Aspell working with opera? I can't seem to get it. I have aspell and aspell-en installed.04:57
raghu206infidel, real player on linux is not as good as it is on windows04:57
zOrKdoes anybody has experience with wireless & ubuntu?04:58
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tizwonos[Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic x86_64]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ @ 1.81GHz]  mem[Physical : 1004MB, 78.6% free]  disk[Total : 35.17GB, 87.40% Free]  video[ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] ]  sound[NFORCE - NVidia CK8S] 04:58
Adamubuntu is so nice when it works04:59
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Adam12 hours or so with one problem but after that Im happy eveything including mythtv went fine04:59
redloffhow do I share usb printer over lan?04:59
Blissexredloff: CUPS.org?04:59
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redloffwhen I try to add network printer on a remote machine it asks for uri05:00
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brittHow do I get alsaconf working?05:00
redloffand I don't know what to type in05:00
firippuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP is particularly useful05:00
redloffBlissex, hmm.. tru it's rather cups not ubuntu problem05:00
redloffnetworkprintingFromWinXP?05:00
reitzelladam:I couldn't get mythtv compiled05:00
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simpohow can i set my x-server to use XFCE ?05:00
firippuhas a small cups config guide, and  how to add the printero n a windowz box05:00
redloffI want to share ubuntu printer on ubuntu :)05:01
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firippuokay, well i imagine that is also a job for cups ;p05:01
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gandalfcomeI want to connect to a wpa psk wifi network on ubuntu dapper drake I installed wpa supplicant. It still doesnt work. please help05:01
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eyequeuesimpo, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop05:02
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brittdoes anybody use alsaconf anymore for sound?05:02
m0dYis there a file which could tell which ubuntu version is being used?05:02
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redlofffirippu, true, but there are this nice looking functions like "detect lan printers" and stuff05:02
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zeronenorezcan anybody help me with upgrading to gnome-2.16.0?05:02
fyrestrtrm0dY: lsb_release -a05:02
redloffit's rather ubuntu function than cups05:02
redloffI thought it gets easier05:02
m0dY:)05:02
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Renan_s2Is it possible to install GNOME 2.16 on Ubuntu 6.06?05:03
firippuyeah i'm a bit behind the times in the gui tools only got a lamps server installed05:03
gandalfcomeeyequeue: that wasnt directed at me with the wpa psk problem05:03
zeronenorezafter ./configure there is a warning :05:04
zeronenorezyou may set the environment variables GNOME_DESKTOP_CFLAGS05:04
zeronenorezand GNOME_DESKTOP_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.05:04
zeronenorezSee the pkg-config man page for more details05:04
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eyequeuegandalfcome, no05:04
Blissexredloff: yes, and you use CUPS to share printers...05:04
jona_Hey guys I can't see my SYSTEM TOOLS Menu on the applications menu, What can i do???05:04
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eod_punkis there a problem with gnome 2.16 that it doesn't support nvidia? i think i read something about it.  or is it rubish?05:05
fyrestrtreod_punk: there is no such thing as gnome doesn't support nvidia.05:05
PaladineI suspect it is rubbish05:05
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eod_punknot in general just 2.1605:05
zeronenorezjona_,use alacarte menu editor05:05
Paladinesince nvidia are by far the best cards to use with linux05:05
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fyrestrtrzeronenorez: gnome 2.16 is not supported on dapper.05:05
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frogzoojona_: does it show in alacarte?05:05
jona_I did it!!! but is inactive05:05
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Amaranthjona_: System Tools is hidden because all of the items in the menu have been hidden05:06
weswh-_there's nothing in synaptic for Opera?05:06
eyequeue!opera05:06
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:06
redloffBlissex, I don't have direct acces to cups web interface, cause it's blocked by default, ubuntu creators wanted to make it easier, and they... like.. didn't make it05:06
zeronenorezfyrestrtr,how to change the environment?05:06
Cem_UNALi want to install kubuntu; wich cd must i download; alternate or desktop?05:06
Amaranthjona_: to make it show up again you have to tick the checkbox to show the items in the menu, not the menu itself05:06
eyequeueCem_UNAL, neither05:07
redloffBlissex, so that's why I'm asking about the "ubuntu way" of sharing a printer05:07
weswh-_eyequeue - add/remove? (is this in synaptic?) where is the commercial app option?05:07
Blissexredloff: the Ubuntu way to share a printer is to share it via CUPS.05:07
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AmaranthCem_UNAL: Kubuntu has their own "alternate" and "desktop" CDs05:07
redloffhow do I get uri, do I add localprinter on server and network printer on client or the other way?05:07
steinexsomeone here using an IBM Thinkpad T23 with Ubuntu?05:07
fyrestrtrzeronenorez: what you are trying to do, is not supported under dapper. If you want 2.16 gnome, wait for edgy to be released in October.05:07
Blissexredloff: http://localhost:631/05:07
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Paladineuse CUPS to share a printer05:07
redloffBlissex, that whoud be my shot, as it uses cups for printing05:07
steinexI have problems with the third mouse button, usually i use it to scroll05:07
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redloffBlissex, it's blocked, as I was saying..05:08
eyequeueCem_UNAL, http://www.kubuntu.org/05:08
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jona_Yes... I can see the option but when i select SYSTEM tools simply don't function05:08
zeronenorezfyrestrtr,my friend had upgraded05:08
eyequeueweswh-, applications > add/remove05:08
AmaranthCem_UNAL: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06.1/05:08
fyrestrtryou can tell him the same thing I just told you :)05:08
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zeronenorezhe did that already05:09
steinexanyone?05:09
torpedo|dogsteinex: I use a T40.05:09
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torpedo|dogAnd rather than having the scroll button be the middle, it's simply a middle-mouse button.05:09
steinextorpedo|dog: do you know what i mean with the scrolling-issue? how do you fixed it?05:09
MrFeetioim looking into a laptop, and i wanted to know what laptops run nicly with linux, my price is 1000-200005:09
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dkhow do i uncomment a line05:10
Blissexredloff: http://occy.net/printing05:10
steinextorpedo|dog: i usually press the third mousebutton and can scroll with the trackball05:10
eyequeue!laptop05:10
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org05:10
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|CADE|dk - remove a # from the beginning of the line05:10
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eyequeueMrFeetio, ^^05:10
dkty05:10
|CADE|so for example05:10
fyrestrtrzeronenorez: then ask him :)05:10
torpedo|dogsteinex: there's no way to do that that I know of05:10
|CADE|# jesus05:10
|CADE|is commented05:10
|CADE|jesus05:10
|CADE|is not05:10
Blissexredloff: or use 'gnome-cups-manager'05:10
dksweet05:10
steinextorpedo|dog: well, how can i change it?05:10
Blissexredloff: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPrinterSharing05:10
zeronenorezfyrestrtr,he is not online now05:10
steinextorpedo|dog: i really 'd need the scrolling-feature05:10
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pablo_uyhi! i dont want my ubuntu 6.06 go into hibernation mode (its a server!!) how do i configure that?05:11
dkand im guessin ## is used for author comments?05:11
torpedo|dogsteinex: I don't think I can help you there. Perhaps somebody in here more experienced with working with X configuration can?05:11
xopheruu, new csm05:11
|CADE|dk - generally, yes05:11
gandalfcomeI want to connect to a wpa psk wifi network on ubuntu dapper drake I installed wpa supplicant. It still doesnt work. can anyone point me in the right direction? please help05:11
fyrestrtrsteinex: what's the problem?05:11
|CADE|I imagine your are removing the commented lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, or something similar?05:12
steinexfyrestrtr: i'm using a thinkpad. i usually press the third mousebutton and can scroll with the trackball then.05:12
Ackeubu_magnet: would you elaborate a litle on that? LVM?05:12
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cherubielsteinex: can you show your xorg,conf contents? use a pastebin05:12
erUSULpablo_uy: gnome-power-preferneces ??05:12
fyrestrtrsteinex: on your thinkpad, the very right edge of the touchpad acts as a scroller05:12
dkhow do i save files in gedit under sudo05:12
dkor how do i save files in gedit with admin privliges05:13
magnetAckeubu_: well, you selected to install your partitions using the Logical Volume Manager05:13
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magnetAckeubu_: so you won't see devices like /dev/sda etc05:13
Paladineyou have to open it with gksudo05:13
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torpedo|dogdk: do "gksudo gedit".05:13
steinexi got it with changing xorg.conf! thanks!05:13
dkok sweet05:13
Paladineso instead of doing gedit somefile05:13
dkty05:13
Paladinedo gksudo gedit somefile05:13
redloffBlissex, thx for the link, as I was saying, I don't know how to get it done via gnome-cups-manager as it asks me for ipp:// which I don't know where to get from05:13
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torpedo|dogfyrestrtr: T40!05:13
fyrestrtrpablo_uy: remove laptop-tools05:14
pablo_uyerUSUL: no ive already configured that but.. it still hibernates ...05:14
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|CADE|that's odd - for some reason Opera web browser isn't in any of my repos >_>05:14
cherubielfyrestrtr: thats got a ati vid subsys right?05:14
torpedo|dog|CADE|: do you have dapper-commercial enabled?05:14
erUSUL|CADE|: opera is in comercial repo05:14
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erUSUL|comercial05:14
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|CADE|torpedo - I'll double check05:14
erUSUL!comercial05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about comercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
erUSUL!opera05:14
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:14
Paladine!commercial05:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:14
pablo_uyfyrestrtr: i dont have that installed05:14
erUSUL!opera > |CADE|05:14
firippupablo_uy: boot your kernel with acpi=off05:15
fyrestrtrcherubiel: yes.05:15
firippualso check your bios and turn off references to ACPI there too05:15
|CADE|that'd be it - I keep forgetting that Opera isn't open-source05:15
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|CADE|-_-'05:15
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damnhilhow do I change the locale?05:15
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fyrestrtr!locales > damnhil05:16
erUSULdamnhil: System>Admin>Language support05:16
fyrestrtrredloff: trying to share printers?05:16
redlofffyrestrtr, yes, no positive result so far..05:16
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pablo_uyfirippu: ok is there a place whwere i can configure acpi=off so that if the machine reboots due to power-failure automatically starts with acpi=off?05:16
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knapperHi, does anybody know how to get Aspell working with opera? I can't seem to get it. I have aspell and aspell-en installed.05:17
dkso i uncommented both  deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe05:17
dk deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe05:17
dkand i still cant apt-get bmp05:17
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cherubieldk: do a apt-get update05:17
firippupablo_uy: what you want to do, is press escape in grub, select which boot line you want to edit, and add acpi=off at the end of the kernel line, beware you'll probably lose temperature gauges, fan throttling and stuff too05:17
cherubielafter uncommending05:17
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cherubielcommenting*05:17
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dkok05:17
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gouchiHi05:18
firippupablo_uy: oh, and you have to press "e" to edit and "b" to boot if i remember right05:18
dkty05:18
Rookie-900 users ... all say hi to gouchi05:18
torpedo|doggouchi: Hello.05:18
gouchi:)05:18
kishoregouchi, hi05:18
torpedo|dogDo you need any help with anything? :)05:18
eod_punkhi gouchi05:18
dkheya partna05:18
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pablo_uyfirippu: ok many thanks ill try! :)05:19
Neo8750all i want to do is erase across a straight line and i can't find it in gimp05:19
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Almindoris there a way to directly mount a .bin/.cue?05:19
ubuntunoobi can't get any sound....05:19
erUSUL!sound05:20
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems05:20
cherubielNeo8750: you should try #gimp05:20
erUSULAlmindor: no afaik05:20
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gouchiAlmindor : if it's to see video you can try directly with MPlayer, mplayer cue://track, otherwise use bchunk  to move it to iso05:20
firippupablo_uy: in order to get it to boot like that every time you will need to more than likely edit your grub.conf05:21
Neo8750cherubiel: well i got agrivated and closed it so to late now05:21
firippunot sure if using the edit mode on grub commits the changes to disk or not05:21
gouchidoes anyone succeed to modprobe uvcvideo  ?05:21
cherubielpatience my friend, patience!05:21
fyrestrtrredloff: first think you need to do, is change cups so it listens on the ip address of your machine, not localhost.05:21
Almindorgouchi, I don't have mplayer but I might try, thanks05:21
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pablo_uyfirippu: so what sould i do then?05:21
Neo8750cherubiel: it looked like crap and the idea just wasn't working05:21
gouchiI try but I have this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/CpSqoQ61.html05:21
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fyrestrtrAlmindor: use bchunk to convert it to an iso, then mount it using mount.05:21
eyequeuefirippu, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst05:21
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Almindoryeah05:21
Neo8750need someone with artistic ablity to bring my idea to life05:21
Paladinehire a graphic designer05:22
eyequeuefirippu, sudo update-grub05:22
firippuwell try boooting with that kernel option and see if you get the desired effect, if so go from there05:22
dkafter i install stuff from the universe, what dir can i find them in05:22
gouchiAlmindor : np05:22
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eyequeuedk, dir?05:22
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dkdirectorty05:22
redlofffyrestrtr, I did that already to enable browsing in cups web interface, I have "Allow all" everywhere in cupsd.conf05:22
Paladinedk, most things you install via synaptic should appear in your menu05:22
fyrestrtrdk: depends what you installed.05:22
dkor folder05:22
dkbmp05:22
quiet/usr/bin05:22
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dkok05:23
Paladineit should be in your applications menu05:23
Paladineunder sound and video05:23
dki needed to know05:23
eyequeuedk, most packages are spread throughout the filesystem, not a particular directory05:23
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dkbecause i click on a internet playlist05:23
dkit asks me what program to oepn it with05:23
dkand bmp is not in the list05:23
quietit's in /usr/bin05:23
dkonly xmms, so i have to find it05:23
dkk ty05:23
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quietit will be afetr yo uselect it the first time05:23
quietafter you*05:23
realistdpkg -L <foo>05:23
erUSULredloff: if you are using cups for more than managing a local printer you'd better enable its web interface that is quite powerfull (more than the gnome tool) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface05:23
eyequeuedk, /usr/bin/beep-media-player is only one of the many files in that package05:23
realistWill tell you where <foo>'s files are located05:23
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dkif it wasnt in /usr/bin , for example a diff app, how abouts would i find it05:24
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fyrestrtrdk: it will be in applications > sound and video05:24
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eyequeuedk, killall gnome-panel, then it will be in your menu05:24
cherubieldk: do an updatedb and then a locate 'appname;05:24
Ackeubu_magnet... what??? what should i do then?? to see sda devices?05:24
dklike, there is no option for me to right click a shortcut and check its properties to see where the root file is05:24
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quietnot locate05:24
dkthats what i want to find out05:24
quietthat's silly05:24
eyequeuedk, define "a shortcut"05:24
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quietdo `which beep-media-player`05:25
fyrestrtrdk: easy way, is to run dpkg -L nameofpackage -- it will tell you where it put all the files.05:25
dki click on application, sound and video, then bmp05:25
magnetAckeubu_: reinstall ubuntu :)05:25
magnetAckeubu_: and don't select LVM05:25
dkoh ok05:25
dksonds good05:25
drolehI. DOes anyoNe kNows were To geT Codecs for Totem? i can't play my Avi files? ;(05:25
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erUSUL!caps05:25
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.05:25
eyequeue!restrictedformats > drole05:25
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Paladine!restricted > drole05:26
phanterhello there05:26
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eyequeueerUSUL, true, i shouldn't have answered him perhaps05:26
dki hope im loggin all this great info :D05:26
dkgota setup xchat05:26
james296how can I change my default media player?05:26
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fyrestrtrdrole: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:26
Almindorfyrestrtr, gouchi is it normal that I got 2 isos from bchunk?05:26
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Homicide187anyone know why i would get a bus error in azureus at line 112?05:26
brittman914How do I get my USB controller to start working again? dmesg was telling me something about the controller being set to the wrong IRQ, but I have everything set to PnP in the BIOS and ubuntu should autoconfigure it, correct?05:26
Ackeubu_magnet not an option. I also try to install gentoo. but i have issues with root device. when booting gentoo itaint finding my /dev/sda3 howcome? LVM?05:27
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fyrestrtrAlmindor: generally, no.05:27
MouldyHey all! Firefox and flash sound is being odd for me. I've managed to get it working, but whenever I have an app like rhythmbox playing music, I have "Stop" the music (not just pause), reload firefox and then play the flash file. Any ideas how to fix this? I assume it has something to do with ESD?05:27
james296???05:27
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jc-dentoni cannot play the dvd i inserted05:27
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gouchidrole : try install libxine-extracodecs if you are using totem-xine otherwise install gstreamer0.10-* (ffmpeg, plugins ...)05:27
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fyrestrtrMouldy: you probably want !dmix05:27
erUSULeyequeue: well he was not exactly shouting but is not easy to read either... XD05:27
droleThanks for the help05:27
jc-dentonbut of course i did anything just as described on RestrictedFormats in the wiki05:27
Homicide187./azureus: line 112: 15640 Bus error               ${JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR}java -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp "${CLASSPATH}" -Djava.library.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" -Dazureus.install.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main "$@"05:27
Homicide187Azureus TERMINATED.05:27
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Mouldyfyrestrtr, Thanks, I shall check that out05:27
Mouldy!dmix05:27
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems05:27
Homicide187thats the error05:27
cherubiel!wireless05:27
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:27
fyrestrtrjc-denton: install the codecs -- see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:27
james296can anyone help me here?05:28
magnet!LVM05:28
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:28
RMorris84if i were to buy an external hard drive case how would i set it up once in ubuntu?05:28
jc-dentonfyrestrtr: see above05:28
phanterwhen I try to visit a website that needs login I get the error "error trying to validate certificate from foo.foo.com using OCSP - corrupted or unknown respons. Error Code: -8073". I get this with all this kind of websites. What could be the problem?05:28
magnetAckeubu_: check this out05:28
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Paddy_EIRE<james296>whats' the question?05:28
BazziRMorris84: automagically05:28
magnet!LVM > Ackeubu_05:28
jc-dentondvds should work out of the box05:28
PaladineHomicide187, have you selected the correct java package?05:28
james296how do I set my default media player?05:28
Ackeubu_magnet okayu thanks05:28
quietRMorris84: just partition and format it and add the partitions to /etc/fstAB05:28
quietfstab*05:28
jc-dentonand if not then at least the description should work05:28
james296like how can I change it to a different player05:28
dkwelp switching from kde to gnome is taking some gettin used to05:28
fyrestrtrjc-denton: no, they should not :) But if you installed all the codecs and followed all the instructions on that page, then they should.05:28
phanteror are there any known issues with OCSP lately?05:28
dkbut im liking gnome a lot05:28
Homicide187well, im not too sure which one to use, i am running 64-bit daper drake05:29
quietjames296: you set it for each file type.. in the properties..05:29
ciaronhmm i've booted from the desktop cd and it doesn't seem to have mounted my ntfs drives, is that normal?05:29
dkkde was easier to use05:29
RMorris84Bazzi: quiet: i just hooked it up and rebooted and now im back in how do i see if its detected?05:29
Paladineyou have to be using Sun's java for az to work properly and ubuntu automagically configures java to use the free version05:29
jc-dentonfyrestrtr: do you like to waste your time with installing stuff :)05:29
BazziRMorris84: is it usb?05:29
Paladineor rather the open version as opposed to Suns closed05:29
james296in what properties?05:29
RMorris84Bazzi: yes...05:29
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PaladineI suggest you join #azureus05:29
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BazziRMorris84: lsusb in console should show it05:29
BadManiacWho can I bug with a few questions?05:29
Casanovawhich package contains the info pages?05:29
fyrestrtrjc-denton: depends, would I rather be wasting my time watching a dvd? :)05:29
brittman914the volume control has an option for #1:(my soundcard) is that right?05:30
james296???05:30
eyequeueCasanova, the package it is about05:30
jc-dentoni too05:30
Casanovaeyequeue: ?05:30
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RMorris84bob@Bob-Laptop:~$ lsusb Bus 005 Device 005: ID 04cf:8818 Myson Century, Inc. Fast 3.5" External Storage05:30
eyequeueCasanova, emacs would contain the emacs info, etc05:30
Homicide187Paladine, should i use jre 64-bit?05:30
codecainehow do you know when you have graphics acceleration?05:30
codecainenvidia?05:30
Casanovaoh05:30
fyrestrtrciaron: it might have mounted them, and they don't show up on the desktop. Open up a terminal and type 'mount', or go system > administration > disks05:30
PaladineHomicide187, ask in #azureus05:30
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Homicide187ok05:30
jc-dentonlibdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x0007fb0c05:31
jc-dentonlibdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB (0x0007fb0c)!!05:31
Mouldyfyrestrtr,  I don't think dmix is what I'm looking for, my sound works 100% except this one bug with firefox.05:31
codecaineI did glxgears the mode kinda medium pace05:31
jc-dentonthat's all i get05:31
BadManiacIs there a way to customize what Ubuntu comes preinstalled with?05:31
RMorris84Bazzi: how do i mount it and formatt it?05:31
PaladineBadManiac, alternative cd05:31
eyequeueBadManiac, you can make a custom cd, yes05:31
fyrestrtrMouldy: there is a specific fix for flash and audio at the restrictedformats wiki entry, might want to explore that.05:31
jc-dentonBadManiac: i use equivs for that05:31
phanteris there anybody that knows about any issue with OCSP? I cannot do my work without it. (my bank and everything usess it)05:31
jc-dentoncreates a package with just dependencies on other packages05:31
BazziRMorris84: gparted should do the job05:31
ciaronfyrestrtr: cheers, i'll give that a go05:31
Mouldyfyrestrtr, Thanks, *has a look*05:31
BadManiacalternate cd? will that let you select stuff during install, somehwat like an MS OS?05:31
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erUSUL!install05:32
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:32
Paladinealternate cd will allow you to setup the system how you like, then build a new cd from it iirc05:32
eyequeueBadManiac, ubuntu is not like ms, sheesh05:32
daurn|laptopok05:32
daurn|laptophow do i get a raid device to work at startup?05:32
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bib[1] I can't find my php executeable.. On most systems I look up 'which php' , but on my ubuntu box it doesn't return anything, even though php's running fine. Any ideas?05:32
BadManiacyeah eye thanks, there's not quite enough people like you in the world. I needa  FEATURE that exists in many other OS'es.05:32
eyequeue!raid > daurn|laptop05:33
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mikimhi.. need some help with rtl8180-0.21 anyone? msg me plx.05:33
fyrestrtrbib[1] : sudo apt-get install php5-cli05:33
Ash-Foxbib[1] , /usr/bin/php5? /usr/bin/php4?05:33
BadManiacno need to go all anti MS, it was a civilized question05:33
eyequeueBadManiac, well, tell us what you want to do, don't presume we have experience with ms05:33
bib[1] I'll look, thx05:33
daurn|laptopeyequeue: the command i need is: mdadm --build --level=linear --raid-devices=2 --auto=p /dev/mdp0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb05:33
BadManiacI want to chose what to install during the installation phase.05:33
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eyequeueBadManiac, it was a nonsensical one in #ubuntu though05:33
daurn|laptop - where can i put it to thats its executed before fstab?05:33
erUSULBadManiac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization05:33
PaladineBadManiac, I just told you how to do it05:33
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eyequeueBadManiac, run dselect from the server cd then05:34
fyrestrtrBadManiac: use the alternate install cd.05:34
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phanterhow can I "update" to an older version of a program05:34
BadManiacYeah I know you did, thanks. Eye just couldn't leave the MS bashing alone05:34
phanter(openssh seems to have problems)05:34
eyequeuephanter, man apt-get05:34
BadManiacanyways, next one05:34
RMorris84Bazzi: its asking me for a desk label should i choose anything specific?05:34
eyequeueBadManiac, what does ms have to do with ubuntu?05:34
jc-dentonit's a new dvd05:34
daurn|laptopeyequeue?05:34
dkwhats a good alternative to xchat05:34
fyrestrtrBadManiac: take the bashing to #ubuntu-offtopic05:34
dkfor gnome05:34
eyequeuephanter, man apt-get, the answer is within the man page05:34
BadManiacI'm not doing the bashing05:34
jc-dentonso i guess that libdvdcss cannot decrypt it05:34
erUSULphanter: sudo apt-get install package=packageversion (apt-cache policy package to see aviable versions)05:35
Paladinejc-denton, are you based in the UK?05:35
jc-dentonwhat can i do05:35
jc-dentonno switzerland05:35
Paladinesame difference05:35
BadManiacjeez, screw this. nice community you are.05:35
jc-dentonhu?05:35
Paladinea lot of dvd's being produced in europe at the moment have what is known as structure protection05:35
jc-denton..05:35
Paladinewhat they basically do is completely cock up the authoring deliberately to confuse non windows players05:35
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VegetaWhy is it that my internet connection sometimes disappear on ubuntu? It will come back when I disable and then enable the interface.. Why?05:35
eyequeuePaladine, what is the "structure" it talks so?  or is this an aka for drm or something?05:35
Paladinethe only way you can get round it is to rip the dvd in windows then copy it to linux05:36
eyequeuePaladine, s/so/of/05:36
jc-dentonor switch to windows05:36
Paddy_EIREare there any really good 3d fps avail for ubuntu05:36
daurn|laptophow do i get this command to run on startup (before fstab): mdadm --build --level=linear --raid-devices=2 --auto=p /dev/mdp0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb05:36
PaladineI am currently in the process of following through a complaint with th European Commission based on their anti trust laws, to try and outlaw such practices05:36
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fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: tremulous is one good one.05:36
erUSULPaddy_EIRE: all of the id Software ones to begin with05:36
jc-dentonPaladine: and what does the mplayer team, ubuntu, sues, etc against that?05:36
phanteroke I see, but there seem to be no older version of the package (and I upgraded it last week so there should be one)05:36
daurn|laptopany1?05:37
Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr>can i do sudo apt-get install tremulous ?05:37
Phoullol05:37
Paladineto my knowledge I am the only person who has made any official legal complaints about the situation05:37
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fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: no, you have to download the demo and try it out, then pay for it :)05:37
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jc-dentonPaladine: well thx for info about that05:37
PaladineI have demanded an investigation05:37
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Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr> ah ok05:37
jc-dentonPaladine: this should be mentioned on the wiki05:37
Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr> what specs do i need05:37
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Paladinehttp://blog.paladine.org.uk/#item7136  <- copy of the letter I sent to the Office of Fair Trading after speaking to the EU Commission05:38
jc-dentonso people at least know why it does not work05:38
erUSULfyrestrtr: tremolous is free...isn't it?05:38
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: 3d acceleration enabled, preferrably with non-retard drivers (aka, anything other than ATI)05:38
jc-dentonso i have to boot windows now? :(05:38
erUSULPaddy_EIRE: is based on quake 2 ...05:38
eyequeuePaladine, thanks for sending that letter05:38
fyrestrtrerUSUL: I don't think so -- maybe I'm confusing it with Coldwar -- ah, yes, I am.05:38
fyrestrtryes it is free.05:38
Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr> then im screwed ATI Radeon 9250 128vram05:38
erUSULfyrestrtr: it works here with radeon drivers and mesa05:39
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Mouldyfyrestrtr, I just did what the wiki said and now the sound is totally messed up and doesn't work at all :(05:39
Paladineeyequeue, I do a lot of work against the entertainment cartels05:39
erUSULfyrestrtr: with a 925005:39
fyrestrtron my x300 it works fine too -- sorry, I got the two games confused :(05:39
eyequeuePaladine, good for you, i'm glad, since it needs doing05:39
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: sorry, give it a try, it will work. I got two really good games confused.05:39
recon0Does anybody know how to disable gnome-screensaver in favor of xscreensaver in dapper?05:39
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erUSULfyrestrtr: no problem ;)05:39
abu_ama3maIs there a good way to use programs like Adobe Photoshop on Ubuntu05:39
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Mouldyabu_ama3ma, You can run photoshop using WINE05:40
daurnimatorhi all05:40
erUSULabu_ama3ma: the only way is through wine05:40
daurnimatorwhats wrong here?:05:40
daurnimator~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/mdp0p5 /mnt/Emulation05:40
daurnimatorFailed to load $MFT: Input/output error05:40
fyrestrtrabu_ama3ma: use crossover office or wine.05:40
daurnimatorFailed to startup volume: Input/output error05:40
Paladineabu_ama3ma, GIMP05:40
idhhi all..05:40
daurnimatorCouldn't mount device '/dev/mdp0p5': Input/output error05:40
daurnimatorMount failed.05:40
Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr> wouldnt mind trying the free one first which game should i go for then05:40
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eyequeue!paste > daurnimator05:40
abu_ama3mais wine free?05:40
Mouldyyep05:40
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Paladinedon't waste your time with crossover office, install vmware server05:40
eyequeue!info wine05:40
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB05:40
tizwonWhy when i run glxinfo i get - Error: unable to open display (null)05:40
erUSULPaddy_EIRE: enemy territory is cool too (quake 3 based)05:40
Paladineworks much much better than crossover05:40
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eyequeueabu_ama3ma, you need to enable universe05:41
eyequeue!repos > abu_ama3ma05:41
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fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: I highly recommend Coldwar. Tremulous is free, Coldwar isn't.05:41
daurnimatoreyequeue: no net browser05:41
daurnimatorjust irc05:41
eyequeuedaurnimator, sudo apt-get install lynx05:41
daurn|laptopeyequeue: web browsing here only05:42
bigjbuse links instead of lynx :P05:42
daurn|laptop - and i want to keep it that way05:42
Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr> is tremulous on the repos05:42
erUSULPaddy_EIRE: alsa as i said all games from id software have linux version (quake 1 2 3 and doom 3....)05:42
Paladinevmware server == free and will run any non directx windows application :)05:42
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: no.05:42
eyequeuedaurn|laptop, pasting in channel will get you kickbanned, regardless of exuses however05:42
fyrestrtrPaddy_EIRE: you have to download it, and its a very straightforward install process.05:42
daurn|laptopeyequeue: can i pm you the error then?05:43
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ladydoor!paste05:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:43
eyequeuedaurn|laptop, no, if you put it on pastebin, all can see it, not just one05:43
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eyequeuedaurn|laptop, additionally, i have zero exposure to ntfs anyway05:43
daurn|laptopok05:43
daurn|laptophere05:43
daurn|laptophttp://pastebin.ca/16516905:43
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daurn|laptop - pmed it to myself05:44
daurn|laptop:P05:44
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Vegeta^Why is it that I randomly loss internet connection on ubuntu?05:44
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PaladineVegeta,  it is very unlikely that it is -anything- to do with ubuntu05:44
erUSULVegeta^: maybe taking a look at the system logs can shed light over the cause...05:45
nownotok i need alot of help i cant boot i get grub error 1505:45
heeehowwdoes anyone use Serpentine?05:45
ProN00banyone knows a Good, Gui ftp client thats for gnome ? (gftp is not good)05:45
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nownotso im in live cd now but can someone pls help05:45
eyequeuegood and ftp are contradictions05:45
PaladineProN00b, nautilus :p05:45
ProN00bPaladine, not a client05:45
erUSULProN00b: ncftp2 (curses based)05:45
eyequeueftp is a broken protocol, needs multiple ports even05:45
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Paladinenautilus works fine as an ftp client05:45
eyequeuescp works well05:45
ciaronfyrestrtr: hmm the drive shows up in "Computer" but when i dbl click it says "cannot mount hda2 as this drive is not removable"05:46
ciaronsame with hda105:46
fyrestrtrermm, no it doesn't. Nautilus has poor support for passive ftp.05:46
ProN00berUSUL, i said gui, curses != gui !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:46
daurn|laptopso05:46
daurn|laptopany1care to explai my error?05:46
daurn|laptophttp://pastebin.ca/16516905:46
PaladineI have had zero issues using nautilus for ftp05:46
nownotcan someone pls help me im going crazy here05:46
fyrestrtrso have I, when I control the FTP server. Sometimes, it takes it 30 minutes to upload one file, when on another node on the same network, same server, its done in 5 minutes.05:47
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fyrestrtr!grub > nownot05:47
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Vegeta^erUSUL: Where do I find this log? Im a newbie I therefore dont know much about linux.05:47
eyequeuescp (1)              - secure copy (remote file copy program)05:47
eyequeuesftp (1)             - secure file transfer program05:47
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fyrestrtrciaron: are you sure they aren't mounted?05:47
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heeehowwdoes anyone use Serpentine?05:47
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erUSULVegeta^: System>Administration>system activity...05:47
ciaronfyrestrtr: they don't show up when i turn a mount command05:48
ladydoor!anyone05:48
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:48
fyrestrtrciaron: pastebin the ouput of your mount command05:48
ciaronfyrestrtr: tis a different machine without net access05:48
visik75 minutes to edgy :)05:48
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fyrestrtrciaron: do a manual copy paste :)05:49
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erUSULvisik7: so 5 minutes to #ubuntu+1 ;)05:49
ciaronits huge!05:49
visik7ya05:49
ciaronhang on i'll try mounting them manually05:49
kishoreedgy means 6.10 ??05:49
visik7yes05:49
|CADE|visik7: eh? I thought edgy wasn't due till October?05:49
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visik7|CADE|: infact05:49
erUSUL!edgy05:49
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:49
ProN00b*sob* theres no good ftp client for linux *sob*05:49
henaroIt's hard to control mahself! o/05:49
visik7I'm installing the knot205:49
bib[1] Thanks fyrestrtr . php4-cli is what i needed05:49
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visik7that I think is alpha stage05:50
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erUSUL|CADE|: you can make alpha testing if you like05:50
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visik7just to increase the 6% of the user who use latesting bleeding ubuntu05:50
FliesLikeALapdid anyone else get their e-mail to popcon last night rejected?\05:50
bigjbdaurn|laptop: whats the device that you are trying to mount?05:50
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NEMSIZhi what is the standard password for unbuntu server?05:50
FliesLikeALapboth of my ubuntu systems got the e-mail returned05:50
visik7like mark says05:50
|CADE|erUSUL: I'm aware - I could've started weeks upon weeks ago, but I prefer stable releases05:50
nownotfyrestrtr: thanks but that site does not help in any of my problems05:50
|CADE|which ought to be October05:50
|CADE|!schedule05:50
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:50
damnhilHow do I load iptables? I got "FATAL: Module ip_tables not found."05:50
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eyequeueNEMSIZ, pardon?05:50
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daurn|laptopbigjb: ntfs partition in a logical partition in an extended partition in a JBOD array05:50
damnhil!iptables05:50
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)05:50
NEMSIZhi what is the standard password for unbuntu server 6.06? i did a clean install05:51
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damnhilNEMSIZ: there's no such thing05:51
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erUSULNEMSIZ: you should have been asked for a password during install process05:51
dkhow come when i pidof gaim i get 2 values05:51
PaladineNEMSIZ, whatever you set the password to during install05:51
Ubuntu_g1hy evrybodies05:51
damnhilUbuntu_g1: Do you know how to load iptables?05:52
NEMSIZoke thanks i will install it again05:52
bigjbdaurn|laptop: youve checked http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ ? because the error itself can relate to a boat load of different problems05:52
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Vegeta^erUSUL: No such thing as "System activity", there is a system log, which is empty...05:52
daurn|laptopbigjb: its the same ntfs as another partition i've got mounted.05:53
wladstonguys, sudo fdisk hda returns : "Unable to open hda" anyone have any hints ?05:53
llindyhello i was wondering if anyone knew why fonts arent working in flash objects im viewing on the web?05:53
NEMSIZand what is the standard root password for unbuntu 6.06?05:53
sbalneavwladston: sudo fdisk /dev/hda05:53
daurn|laptopNEMSIZ: there isn't one05:53
realistNEMSIZ: there is none05:53
eyequeueNEMSIZ, pardon?  no such thing, we don't do root05:53
sbalneavAssuming you have a /dev/hda05:53
quietNEMSIZ: there isn't one05:53
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RMorris84i just bout 2 usb 2.0 hd cases, one for 2.5 and one for 3.5 and when i plug up my 2.5 it says usb disk on my desktop when i plug in the 3.5 it doesnt... whats gong on here05:53
eyequeue!rootsudo > NEMSIZ05:53
NEMSIZoke thanks05:53
MageZsomeone plays warcraft 3 in wine?05:53
wladstonsbalneav: thanks very much!! I'm recently here in lunux :)05:53
realistNEMSIZ: it's disabled by default.05:53
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llindyhello i was wondering if anyone knew why fonts arent working in flash objects im viewing on the web?05:54
|DuReX|hi guys, i'm trying to add a HDD to my software raid5 with mdadm, and i get md: sdb has invalid sb, not importing!05:54
realist!tell realist rootsudo05:54
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell realist rootsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:54
dkfor warcraft use cedega05:54
|DuReX|does somebody got an id ?05:54
eyequeue!rootsudo > realist05:54
Ubuntu_g1I've just create my raid 1 (software linux dapper server). It's all ok,. now i try to disconect my sdb and i try to restart. it's all ok but in my dmesg i read: raid set md0 active with 1 of 2 mirrors. why? could anyone help me? tks05:54
realisteyequeue: cheers ;p05:54
quietNEMSIZ: if you want to use root just 'sudo su -' and then 'passwd'05:54
quietto set a root password05:54
MageZbut cedega i have to pay?05:54
eyequeueNEMSIZ, no!05:54
eyequeuequiet, please don't advise that in here05:54
PaladineMagez, yeah a whole 5 bucks a month05:54
jbmigelwhats up with all that sudo stuff anyway... I dont see what it gets us05:55
quieti didn't advise it... i just told him how to do it...05:55
eyequeuejbmigel, security05:55
damnhilcan anyone try "sudo iptables -L" and report the result to me?05:55
MageZPaladine: war3 is woking pretty good in wine05:55
bigjbdaurn|laptop: it been the same is irrelevant, it could be a hundred different underlying problems with the partition itself05:55
quietand... why the heck not?? who cares if you 'enable' root??  root is part of unix.05:55
eyequeuequiet, of he wants to do something dangerous, let him decide it for himself after reading the web page05:55
quietit's silly to completely disable it.05:55
Ubuntu_g1damnhil, why????05:55
MageZI just have a little problem05:55
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eyequeuequiet, it is a design choice made by ubuntu05:55
jbmigeleyequeue i think it might be less secure, if someone gets my plain user password they can run any command on my comp05:56
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Paladineits a very sensible choice too05:56
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|DuReX|somebody ? :(05:56
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eyequeuejbmigel, bring it up with ubuntu security team, they disagree with you on that05:56
Paladineseeing as ubuntu is probably the biggest (read as most popular) linux distro it is only a matter of time until people start to try and exploit it with malware etc05:56
MageZPaladine: do u know how to play wine as window?05:56
llindyhello i was wondering if anyone knew why fonts arent working in flash objects im viewing on the web?05:56
Vegeta^erUSUL: Could the cause be that I have the wireless activated as well, when Im using ethernet? BEcause there is SOMETIMES connection with the wireless (not my). Could that interfer?05:56
Paladinehaving no root login makes that very difficult05:56
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llindycan sum1 help me?05:56
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ProN00bnot running as root = 4 pussies05:56
PaladineMageZ, I use cedega05:57
|DuReX|hi guys, i'm trying to add a HDD to my software raid5 with mdadm, and i get md: sdb has invalid sb, not importing!, any id how to fix that ?05:57
MageZPaladine: =/05:57
eyequeue!lanfuage > ProN00b05:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lanfuage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:57
quiet4 of them?05:57
eyequeue!language > ProN00b05:57
PaladineProN00b, talking like that in this channel will get your banned, watch your language05:57
nvl-Is it possbile to change level on an log in irssi?05:57
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jbmigeleyequeue lol i wasnt trying to pick a fight you know... just curious... one can always enable root and remove sudo05:57
MageZPaladine: ok, thx05:57
|CADE|ProN00b: Not running as root is also for people who have common sense and want to protect their computer.05:57
Ubuntu_g1could anyone help me aboute mdadm resyncing with rai 1??05:57
ProN00bwhats with all the little kids in here ?05:57
llindycan sum1 help me with flash in ubuntu05:57
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sbalneavProN00b: I've been a systems administrator for over 20 years.  You should NEVER run as root unless you need to.05:57
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eyequeuejbmigel, "can" != "should" however05:57
llindyyeah dont run root unless u need too05:57
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ProN00b|CADE|, i got root on your box mwahahaha05:58
llindylol05:58
rapiscanhey guys, does anybody have eclipse running on Ubuntu?  I'm not very familiar with Java, but I want to learn to use eclipse.  I've installed the java SDK, and I've extracted eclipse, but I get this error when trying to run eclipse:  java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: eclipse not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./] , parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[] , parent=null}}05:58
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, Hy, could i ask you about my rai 1??05:58
|CADE|ProN00b: Go swallow a knife. kthxbai05:58
ProN00bsbalneav, so i guess you do your administration work from a user account with sudo ?05:58
rapiscanI've updated the $PATH to include the eclipse directory.05:58
llindyhey guys can someone help me rite quick?05:58
kishorehi all05:58
sbalneavProN00b: Yep.05:58
|CADE|sbalneav: I concur. Using sudo is a far safer method, imo. Especially since on a network, you can disable sudo priveleges based upon users05:58
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ProN00bsbalneav, ahahahahahahhahahahahha, fail+10 for you05:58
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boricuaapache issue i have the link for mods enable but i cant open php pages lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   37 2006-07-31 11:35 php5.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf05:59
PaladinePro, I suggest you leave05:59
sbalneavProN00b: My paycheque says otherwise.05:59
eyequeueProN00b, please don't troll in #ubuntu05:59
|DuReX|hi guys, i'm trying to add a HDD to my software raid5 with mdadm, and i get md: sdb has invalid sb, not importing!, any id how to fix that ?05:59
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Blissexllindy: ask direct detailed questions and wait 10 min for an answer, and then repeat.05:59
kishoremenu bar disappeared suddenly05:59
pfein_any tips on installing from DOS/loadlin?05:59
Blissex|DuReX|: consider carefully what you are doing...05:59
fyrestrtrrapiscan: make sure you are using the sun jvm (sudo update-alternatives --config java)05:59
kishoredont know any reason.. sometimes happening like this05:59
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: What about your raid 1?05:59
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|DuReX|Blissex what u mean ?06:00
Ubuntu_g1|DuReX|, sorry, do you know hot to resyncing a raid 1 with sda and sdb. ??06:00
realist|CADE|: not to mention sudo leaves an audit trail06:00
ProN00beyequeue, i don't troll, i just say what i think06:00
|CADE|realist: Quite true.06:00
rapiscanfyrestrtr, I am running on a dual G5, so I had to download the IBM SDK, is this a problem?06:00
|DuReX|not really Ubuntu_g106:00
Blissex|DuReX|: are you willing to lose the existing contents of that RAID5?06:00
realist(Unless one were to use sudo to esacpe into another shell)06:00
eyequeueProN00b, personal attacks are not appreciated in here06:00
|DuReX|Blissex ofc not06:01
|CADE|ProN00b: The problem with claiming that using root user over sudo, is that you aren't really THINKING in the first place.06:01
ProN00beyequeue, just because you and many other people think running as root is bad doesn't mean everybody thinks that way06:01
PaladineProN00b, you are not entitled to say what you think in this channel, it is a support channel not a ProN00b's opinion channel.06:01
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jbmigeli would prefer some for of sudo that needs a different password than the one i type every day to login06:01
Blissex|DuReX|: then read carefully the warnings on the label :-).06:01
fyrestrtrrapiscan: hrmm, could be. You might have to configure the paths manually for your jvm.06:01
eyequeueProN00b, ubuntu policy06:01
rapiscanI downloaded the ppc version of Eclipse, and their support page showed that ppc processors were now supported.06:01
|DuReX|what warnings ?06:01
|DuReX|wtf06:01
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: If you've built it with the standard mdadm tools, it should rebuild automatically on reboot06:01
ProN00beyequeue, also, see what others tell me to do, someone suggested i should swallow a knife and nobody said a word06:01
sbalneavcheck /proc/mdstat for details.06:01
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rapiscanOk, any tips on that? Or should I just start searching the net.06:02
eyequeueProN00b, i suspect you should notice that your attacks have gained you disfavour06:02
|DuReX|Blissex: i added like 3 hdd's yet to my raid506:02
ProN00bPaladine, every channel is a "ProN00b's opinion channel." as long as i am there06:02
realistProN00b: what goes around, comes around.06:02
|DuReX|and then grow06:02
|DuReX|worked perfectly06:02
|DuReX|without losing data06:02
ProN00beyequeue, ya, lols06:02
|DuReX|now i want to add a last one, and i get that error06:02
fyrestrtrrapiscan: you can just do something like export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/your/ibm/jvm and then run eclipse -- or, you can edit your eclipse shortcut and add that line.06:02
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eyequeueProN00b, please take them elsewhere, this channel observes the CoC06:02
ProN00brealist, if its like that, then don't point me to some friggin rules06:02
Paladine!ontopic06:02
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:02
quietwhat's the CoC?06:03
jbmigeleyequeue Coc?06:03
ProN00beyequeue, the what ? ^__^06:03
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eyequeue!CoC06:03
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/06:03
|CADE|Code of Conduct06:03
PaladineCode of Conduct06:03
|CADE|sheesh06:03
rapiscanfyrestrtr, ok thanks, I'll look into that.06:03
ladydoorjbmigel: you could set a *very* secure root password and su to root instead06:03
ProN00blols06:03
nownotcan someone pls help me w/ my grub problem06:03
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, hy. I've just make my raid 1 with 2 hd (sda and sdb) mounted in md0. 10 minutes ago, i tried to disconect my sdb ( to chech if sda restart - all ok). now i've reconnected my sdb, but i read in /proc/mdtstat that i'm using only one disk. i tried to rebopot anoter tiome but it's the same.06:03
Ademanisn't there a command line program that can convert between image formats?06:03
llindywhats the default root password for ubuntu06:03
eyequeueconvert (1)          - convert between image formats as well as resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither, draw on, flip, join, re-sample, and much more.06:03
thedashis there any way to get ubuntu to read file.partXX.rar files?06:03
quietthere isn't one06:03
eyequeueAdeman, ^^06:03
llindythnx quiet06:03
|CADE|llindy: Ubuntu, by default, doesn't make a root user.06:03
|CADE|;)06:03
llindyill try without one06:03
Ademanllindy: the password you used when you installed06:03
BlissexAdeman: there is at least one.06:04
llindyoh okay06:04
quietit does to make a root user.06:04
quietgoof ball.06:04
Paladine!imagemagick > Ademan06:04
RMorris84i just bout a 2.5" usb disk case and it shows up on my desktop... how do i write files to it? :)06:04
quietyou cna't NOT have a root user.06:04
llindyi tried the password i made when i isntalled06:04
quietit's just locked06:04
llindyit didnt work06:04
|CADE|aye06:04
rapiscanfyrestrtr, a quick follow up question.  If I type $JAVA_PATH and that var doesn't appear to be set, then that is likely the problem right? As noted above.06:04
llindybut im trying to edit xorg.conf06:04
llindyi get permission denied06:04
ProN00b|CADE|, thats just wrong, it just doesn't asign a password to the root user and so disables it06:04
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eyequeuellindy, sudo06:04
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: can you list the command you used to re-add /dev/sdb?06:04
llindyassuming that i need to su to root06:04
quietllindy: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:04
codecainehow do I disable ipv6?06:04
ladydoorllindy: you need to use sudo (after backing it up!)06:04
pfein_has anyone installed via LOADLIN?  having issues with initrd...06:04
llindyokay thanks you06:04
eyequeuellindy, sudo, not su06:04
ladydoorllindy: use nano -w instead06:04
llindyi am trying to get my fonts in flash to work06:04
ladydoorllindy: of vi06:04
quietyou can sudo su -06:04
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llindyso far all i can find on this problem06:04
eyequeuequiet, NO06:04
eyequeuequiet, sheesh06:05
llindyis that i need to add some fonts in that file06:05
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Ubuntu_g1no. It's a new installation, i create raid 1 with the installation dapper menu.06:05
Paladinequiet, you are breaking the regulations for this channel, stop telling people to enable root login06:05
llindyanyone know what might be causing it?06:05
quietwth??  I DIDN'T TELL ANYONE TO ENABLE ROOT!06:05
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav,  no. It's a new installation, i create raid 1 with the installation dapper menu.06:05
ladydoorllindy: so do sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf, after copying it to your home dir06:05
ladydoorllindy: wait, i mean making a copy in *that* dir. lol06:05
eyequeue!rootsudo > quiet06:05
llindythnx ladydoor06:05
quietyeah i'm well aware, thanks.06:05
ProN00bhay every1 please all of you enable root !06:05
eyequeueokay, that's enough06:06
boricuaagain cant open php pages in apache 2 after enabling module06:06
ProN00blols, thats against channel regoulations ?06:06
jbmigeleyequeue this CoC is the weirdest looking EULA i have ever read06:06
eyequeue!ops06:06
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!06:06
thedashhow to get ubuntu to read file.partXX.rar files?06:06
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llindyladydoor:  do you know what might be causing the problem i am having with fonts not working in flash animations?06:06
Amarantheyequeue: ?06:06
eyequeueAmaranth, please /lastlog ProN00b06:06
ProN00bllindy, i think flash sometimes needs fonts from microsoft06:06
eyequeueAmaranth, it's been quite the saga06:06
ladydoorquiet: as good an editor as vi is, it might be best to encourage newer users to use something more user-friendly & less powerful, like nano (that goes for emacs too--no prosthelytising would be best)06:06
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|DuReX|Blissex: can i pm you plz ?06:06
RMorris84i just bought a 2.5" usb disk case and it shows up on my desktop... how do i write files to it?06:06
ProN00bllindy, did you try installing those ?06:07
llindyflash needs fonts from microsoft sometimes?06:07
llindyno i havent06:07
llindyi do not understand how to06:07
Amarantheyequeue: Looks fun.06:07
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ProN00bllindy, yeah, i experienced this once, didn't work bevore i installed them, worked after06:07
ladydoorllindy: i don't htink it's an x problem...i think it might be that the linux version of flash is a little older and that the m$ core fonts aren't installed by default06:07
Blissex|DuReX|: yes...06:07
bretzelhi there!!! Is there a web site where we can push our screenshots ? ( I mean, specific Ubuntu shots ) :-)06:07
ProN00bllindy, there is a package with an installer for microsoft fonts in universe i think06:07
Amarantheyequeue: He seems to be fine now, no?06:07
eyequeueAmaranth, got half the populous cranked, heh06:07
Amarantheyequeue: btw, I never knew about /lastlog, thanks :)06:07
llindyladydoor:  is there a package with those fonts i can install?06:07
eyequeueAmaranth, in the past 5 seconds, since the !ops, perhaps06:08
thedashcan the archive manager be modified to read .rar files?06:08
LightTitanI am back into Linux! Finally!06:08
LightTitanOk, first question... how do I check my kernal number?06:08
eyequeueAmaranth, cool command, i wish xchat had it :)06:08
nownothow do i set a patition  bootable in fdisk06:08
quietllindy: install msttcorefonts06:08
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Amarantheyequeue: xchat-gnome has it :P06:08
bretzelme back to ubuntu and really feel better!06:08
ProN00beyequeue, i just turned stealth troll mode on06:08
eyequeuethedash, watch the bot06:08
eyequeue!rar > thedash06:08
bretzel!screenshots06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screenshots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:08
ladydoorllindy: try sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts06:08
llindyquiet: where can i find that?06:08
jbmigelLightTitan :uname -a"06:08
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, are you still here??06:08
quiet!info msttcorefonts06:08
ProN00bllindy, in synaptic06:08
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB06:08
llindythnx ladydoor lemme try now06:08
ladydoorllindy: sweet! good luck06:09
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LightTitanjbmigel Thanks :)06:09
bretzel!screenshots repo please, I would want to push some of mine06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screenshots repo please, I would want to push some of mine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
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Rookie-!xdtv06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
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llindyladydoor:  it asked for a password06:09
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: yes, just doing some reading, how did you detach sdb?06:09
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ladydoorllindy: enter the password you used to log in06:09
llindybut if root is disable in ubuntu06:09
llindyokay06:09
sbalneavHow you did that will determine how we need to re-attach it06:09
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, I've halted my pc, and i diconect my sdb.06:09
JacXused easy ubuntu to try ti install Nvidia drivers, it dowloaded them, something poped up in a window, but I closed it on accident, now the option is greyed out adn the drivers aren't installed06:09
llindyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:10
llindyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:10
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LightTitanI am running the 386 kernal and want to update to the 686... where do I start06:10
ladydoorllindy: sudo prompts for your password, because you have semi-locked superuser privileges that can only be accessed with sudo06:10
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ladydoorllindy: do you have synaptic or aptitude open?06:10
Amaranthllindy: Is synaptic open?06:10
ladydoorllindy: if so, close them06:10
llindyokay hold on06:10
vdepizzolhello06:10
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ichmbchcan i install ubuntu on intel based Mac?06:10
jbmigelLightTitan you wont notice any difference, but all you need to do is choose your new kernel in synaptic06:10
eyequeueichmbch, certainly06:10
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: what do you see for a status when you look at /proc/mdstat06:10
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llindyladydoor:  it says it installed it06:10
eyequeueichmbch, use the i386 disks06:11
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llindyladydoor:  should i reboot the system and try or restart firefox and try?06:11
eyequeueLightTitan, sudo apt-get install linux-image-68606:11
LightTitanjbmigel Thanks... I believe you are probably correct but my buddy says I should upgrade to it so I am just gonna go ahead and do it. I will be back later when I get it done.06:11
JacXI'm having problems with easy ubuntu...06:11
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, only one disk :-(06:11
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quietJacX: don't use it.06:11
ladydoorllindy: you only need to reboot to install new kernels :-). just try restarting firefox06:11
eyequeue!easyubuntu06:11
LightTitaneyequeue ok, writing that down too. THanks.06:11
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.06:11
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Episteme73Where can i go to ask simple bash script questions? (just learning)06:11
PaladineJacX, to be expected, avoid all "do it all for you" scripts including easyubuntu and automatix06:12
sbalneavOK, but does it say it's rebuilding?06:12
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quietJacX: best to just follow simple instructions at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:12
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, mdo: active raid sda1[0] 06:12
ladydoorEpisteme73: here may work. just go ahead and ask :-)06:12
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vdepizzolI'm trying to use my network card, but it lights are off06:12
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llindyladydoor:  it said it has completed will i need to reboot the system in order to use it?06:12
Ubuntu_g1no, i dont read rebuildin in /proc/mdstat06:12
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sbalneavUbuntu_g1: Gimme a minute to look something up.  Does sdb exist? i.e. does the kernel see it in dmesg?06:13
ladydoorllindy:  as i said...< ladydoor> llindy: you only need to reboot to install new kernels :-). just try restarting firefox06:13
llindyi tried restarting firefox06:13
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Episteme73ladydoor thanks. how do I evoke mplayer in a bash script > mplayer /bla/bla/file.mpg doesn't seem to work06:13
llindyand it still doesnt show fonts in flash animations06:13
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POVaddctahhh, those were the days: http://84.179.90.32:28362/06:13
llindyladydoor: i tried restarting firefox and it still doesnt show fonts in flash animations06:13
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, yes06:13
ladydoorEpisteme73: what's the > for? and you should probably ask out loud06:13
ProN00bllindy, what flash animation are you exactly talking about ?06:13
eyequeueEpisteme73, tried /usr/bin/mplayer ?06:13
ladydoorllindy: oh...weird06:13
llindyWWW.RR.COM/FLASH/INDEX.CFM06:14
llindysorry caps06:14
llindytrying to get my homepage to work06:14
vdepizzolanyone can help me?06:14
ladydoor!anyone06:14
Episteme73I'll try that now... 2 secs06:14
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:14
llindyi know its a font problem i suppose06:14
quietPOVaddct: reminds me of FastTrackerII kind of..06:14
eyequeueEpisteme73, scripts don't always have the PATH you expect them to :)06:14
POVaddctquiet: way older than fasttracker06:14
quietyeah i know06:14
ProN00bllindy, where does that not display fonts where it should ?06:15
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: in your /etc/mdadm.conf file, does the DEVICE line list both /dev/sda and sdb?06:15
POVaddctquiet: this one is from atari st (though the original amiga tracker looked quite the same)06:15
llindyit doesnt display any fonts on the sidebar menu navigation or anything06:15
quietnice.06:15
ProN00bllindy, you mean the states ?06:15
Amaranthllindy: worst perfectly here06:15
Amarantherr, works06:15
llindyno not the states06:15
llindyyeah well i went thru that too06:15
llindythe states06:15
llindyand none of them had text too06:15
llindybut i clicked on florida lol06:15
skarwill easy ubuntu add the repos necessary to install the bin codecs and nvidia drivers?06:16
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Episteme73no, using /usr/bin/mplayer didn't work either. There must be something else I'm unaware of.06:16
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ProN00bllindy, the list with the states on the right shows06:16
Paladineskar, use easyubuntu at your own risk06:16
eyequeueskar, ask #easyubuntu, we don't support that in here06:16
Amaranthllindy: and i don't have msttcorefonts installed so that's not it06:16
llindywell it doesnt show for me06:16
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llindylol06:16
llindywhich is why i am trying to fix it06:16
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Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, nothing, only device partitions and array /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-dvices=2 etc etc uid....06:16
ProN00bllindy, maybe you didn't install those ms fonts correctly06:16
Amaranthi am using epiphany instead of firefox though06:16
llindymaybe not06:16
llindyi dont know06:16
AmaranthProN00b: the fonts aren't needed06:16
ProN00bAmaranth, not ?06:17
quietflash generally embeds the fonts in the movie.06:17
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ProN00bo rly ? ()06:17
AmaranthProN00b: Nope, it works fine here and I don't have them.06:17
ProN00bhmm06:17
ProN00bok06:17
llindythats what i thought but i google my problem06:17
max_Hey I'm using Ubuntu Dapper Drake and I was wondering if theres anything better to listen to music on rather then Totem, I listen to my music over a network which has samba installed and alot of these music players won't work. Any one know a good one for listening to music over the network?06:17
llindyand other people have the same problem in fedora06:17
AmaranthProN00b: Please don't use AOLSpeak here.06:17
Paladinefonts should be compiled into the flash movie06:17
Paladinethats the point06:17
quietmax_: banshee or beep-media-player06:17
ProN00bAmaranth, don't tell me what to not do06:17
Amaranthmax_: If it works in totem it should work in rhythmbox06:17
quietmax_: vlc06:17
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llindyi know that fonts are embedded into the movie itself06:17
AmaranthProN00b: Why not?06:17
max_quiet I have banshee it won't work, same with rythm box06:18
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ladydoor!netiquette06:18
PaladineProN00b, telling an op what not to do is a bad idea06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netiquette - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:18
llindybut i googled this problem and other people in fedora are having the same problems06:18
vdepizzolladydoor: I'm trying to use tulip driver with my Intel network card, but the driver can't work with "options=4" (to force use as 10baseT)06:18
llindyand can't figure it out06:18
ProN00bi dunno, because maybe not everyone likes your way of talking enforced onto them06:18
BonBonTheJonhas any one set up ubuntu on a RAID06:18
ladydoorvdepizzol: i'm not familiar with that :-(06:18
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ProN00bPaladine, o rly ? ()06:18
max_Amaranth it won't work in rythmbox either06:18
redcardProN00b: Don't use aolspeak here, PLEASE06:18
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PaladineProN00b, you are just trying to get banned aren't you?06:18
skarBonBonTheJon: yup root fs is on sw RAID106:18
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ProN00bo rly isn't aol speak *_*06:18
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BonBonTheJonskar: how do you boot from RAID06:19
hantoohow do i remove a pakcage from my system?06:19
hantooi did apt-get remove mozilla06:19
llindyust found the answer, install06:19
llindy#gsfonts-x1106:19
llindyand then06:19
llindy#dpkg-reconfigure gsfonts-x1106:19
ladydoorProN00b: it's easier to be taken seriously if you at least take the seconds required to type a whole word.06:19
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: Well, lets try an assemble: mdam -A --scan /dev/md006:19
vdepizzolladydoor: ok06:19
eyequeuehantoo, dpkg --purge foo06:19
hantoobut mozilla still installed06:19
eyequeuehantoo, sudo dpkg --purge foo, rather06:19
Amaranthhantoo: mozilla-browser06:19
ladydoorvdepizzol: sorry06:19
fuocoanyone runs edgy ?06:19
hantooAmaranth: but i did install mozilla06:19
hantoo:o06:19
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quietno no one... it's vaporware06:19
hantoothis is losing me, heh.06:19
Amaranthfuoco: I do, please join #ubuntu+106:19
eyequeuefuoco, #ubuntu+1 does06:19
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skargrub has this:kernel   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-11-686 root=/dev/md0 ro quiet splash06:20
Amaranthhantoo: mozilla is a metapackage that pulls in mozilla-browser, mozilla-composer, etc06:20
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: does that fix it in /proc/mdstat?06:20
ProN00bladydoor, thats the question, do i want to be taken seriously from people who don't ? and also, why should i if it isn't me who needs help ?06:20
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Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, ok said: device /dev/md0 already active - cannot assemble it06:20
Amaranthalright, not composer06:20
hantooAmaranth: so how do i remove the whole mozilla metapackage?06:20
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ProN00bbut thats offtopic here, sry06:20
PensacolaI read that it may be caused by the 686 kernel is that possible?06:20
Paladine!offtopic > ProN00b06:20
kowadoes anyone know how to change the download folder by using the shell06:20
Amaranthhantoo: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm06:21
Amaranthkowa: ?06:21
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sbalneavUbuntu_g1: This your root partition?  We'll need to stop the raid unit with mdadm --stop /dev/md006:21
quietkowa: with wget?06:21
quietjust cd to the directory you want to download it to.06:22
hantoocheers.06:22
kowaim new with ubuntu sorry06:22
sbalneavIf it is, you'll need to do this with a recovery disk.06:22
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hantooclear06:22
hantooer06:22
eyequeuePaladine, brief /msg okay?06:22
mike__soem help configuring a gdesklet: ADVANCED help needed06:22
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, i can't doi it. device or resource busy.06:23
Paladineeye, sure06:23
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: What have you got mounted on /dev/md0 ?  Your root partition?06:23
kowaquiet: if i click on download on firefox i want it to a specific ordner...how to set that?...excuse my english06:23
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, yes.06:23
quietkowa: in the firefox preferences.06:23
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quietedit -> preferences -> Downloads tab06:24
Amaranthkowa: Edit->Preferences in firefox06:24
kowathx06:24
mike__need some advanced help with gdesklets06:24
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Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, i think that i must only resyncing the raid 1 array, but i don't know.06:25
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Paddy_EIREhow would i launch this installer "tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run" ??06:25
quietprobably chmod a+x and ./trem...06:25
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sbalneavUbuntu_g1: ok, try this: raidhotadd /dev/md0 /dev/sdb06:26
mike__any help please06:26
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Amaranthmike__: You have to tell us what the problem is first. :)06:27
Paddy_EIRE<quiet> nothing happened when i did "chmod a+x ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run06:27
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LightTitan#ubuntu06:27
LightTitanoh...guess I am already here06:27
mike__help with gdesklets please06:27
quietPaddy_EIRE: sure it did... it made it executable.06:27
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quietnow just do './trem.."06:27
Amaranthmike__: #gdesklets on GIMPNet might be more help06:28
llindyi fixed it ladydoor thank you for your help06:28
Paddy_EIRE<quiet>oh so now i just click it06:28
sbalneavmike__: WHAT problem are you having with gdesklets?06:28
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Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, raidtoadd. command not found06:28
mike__Amaranth: thnaks06:28
LightTitanok, got my first problem. I installed the glx drivers (I have NVidia card) and restarted, now I can only display in 640X480.... any clue how to fix that?06:28
mike__sbalneav:  not a problem a configuration issue with the gnome bar 2.02 gdesklet06:28
Paddy_EIRE<quiet>what is a symbolis link06:28
sbalneavUbuntu_g1: raidhotadd06:28
Amaranth!fixres06:28
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:28
sbalneavnot raidtoadd06:28
Paddy_EIRE*symbolic06:29
AmaranthLightTitan: what ubotu just said should help06:29
mike__Amaranth:  lol no on eis in #gdesklets06:29
Amaranthmike__: On GIMPNet, not Freenode06:29
sbalneavmike__: you STILL haven't told us what the problem is.06:29
LightTitanAmaranth... ok I will try it thx. BRB.06:29
Ubuntu_g1sbalneav, yes, raidhotadd: command not found06:29
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mike__sbalneav:  i cant configure the gnome bar app tp launch different applications06:30
PaladineLightTitan, udo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200 (change 1600x1200 for the resolution you want)06:30
PaladineLightTitan, sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200 (change 1600x1200 for the resolution you want) <- even06:30
mike__sbalneav:  the applications launcher text u can edit looks liek this: launch('firefox')06:30
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mike__sbalneav:  but liek i want to launch firefox 2 beta 2 witch is in the directory firefox/firefox06:31
Amaranthmike__: launch('/path/to/firefox/firefox')06:31
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PaladineLightTitan, sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200 (change 1600x1200 for the resolution you want)06:31
LightTitanPaladine It worked!! Thanks so much :)06:31
Paladinethat command will add different screen modes to your xorg.conf06:31
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Paladineno problem06:32
mike__Amaranth:  gave me an error06:32
|CADE|Has anyone had luck getting the moodbar to work in Amarok 1.4.3?06:32
mike__Amaranth:06:32
mike__unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType' and 'str'06:32
mike__/usr/share/gdesklets/Displays/gnomebar/GnomeBar.display06:32
mike__>   1 launch(launch('/path/to/firefox/firefox'))06:32
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Paladinemike__, remove launch( from the beginning of that line06:33
Paladineand the trailing )06:33
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Amaranthmike__: why are you doing launch() twice?06:33
Amaranthmike__: launch('/path/to/firefox/firefox')06:33
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ichmbchhello, it is written on apple.com, that if i want to install winXP on intel based Mac, i need to update firmware and use MacOSX of at least 10.4.6. But if i want to install ubuntu, do i need all these steps?06:34
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Paladinealso change /path/to to the real path06:34
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Amaranth!intel mac06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:34
Amaranthbah06:34
scifihi guys, basically im trying to remove all duplicate lines from a text file. "sort -u filename.csv > newfilename.csv", orders them but doesnt remove them. any ideas ?06:35
eyequeuescifi, man uniq :)06:35
wladstonguys, ubuntu is mounting one of my windows NTFS partitons as a Swap partition. Anyone can point me a help ?06:35
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|CADE|Has anyone had luck getting the moodbar to work in Amarok 1.4.3?06:35
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eyequeuescifi, sort -u foo | uniq  (and yes you want to pre-sort it)06:36
zebedeehooray machine number two now running ubuntu (bye bye rtl8180l w/lan card. hello dusty old 3com pci lan card) :-)06:36
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Paddy_EIRE<fyrestrtr> how do i get "tremulous" to play a game? Im just sitting with an empty server list?06:36
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wladstonthe "disk manager" does not give me the option to change this06:36
ACUwhat is the best ftp server ( and easiest to administer preferable  with some web or gui)06:36
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scifieyequeue: thnx will try it, wonder why -u doesnt remove dupes, in man says it will06:36
Amaranthichmbch: http://bin-false.org/?p=1706:36
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Amaranthichmbch: That should help you install Ubuntu 6.06 on a MacBook Pro (should work for Mac Mini and iMac too)06:37
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wladstonanyone knows if there is a guide or something on this I can't find ?06:37
ichmbchAmarath: thanks06:37
eyequeuescifi, odd06:37
Amaranthwladston: Change what?06:37
Amaranthah06:37
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Amaranth!ntfs06:38
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:38
Dr_Williswladston,  swap partitions are definded in the fstab file.  if its that confused.. check there.06:38
Dr_Willis!ntfs06:38
ds[de] wlandston: http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php06:38
Dr_Willislol.06:38
Dr_WillisThe DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume06:38
AmaranthDr_Willis: hehe06:38
wladstonAmaranth: one of my windows partitions is getting mounted as swap06:38
wladstonthanks dudes! I'll take a read!06:38
Dr_Williswladston,  this on an installed system or a live cd?06:38
wladstoninstalled system06:38
wladstonI finally made my definite swith to linux06:39
PaladineI think the first thing you need to do is unmount the partition to protect the integrity of your data06:39
wezzerI am glad that you made that decision06:39
andrewskiwladston: how you feelin'?06:39
wladstonwezzer: me too !06:39
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Paladineit shouldn't be able to use it as swap if it is ntfs but I would be wary06:39
wladstonandrewski: after some time getting some M$ fonts, setting themes, I'm feeling great!06:39
andrewskiwladston: yeah, MS fonts were one of the last things to go for me, even after i got rid of windows.06:40
wladstonandrewski: something that really scare people away from linux is the terrible fonts the system start with ...06:40
jbmigelhey what is adobe's problem where is my flash 9 and/or 64 bit flash??06:40
AmaranthHehe, even Ubuntu takes some setup to get going right. :)06:40
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andrewskiwladston: bitstream vera sans?  terrible?06:40
AmaranthWindows takes me 3 hours to get up-to-date and setup how I like, Ubuntu takes an 1 hour. :D06:40
wladstonandrewski: bitstream vera sans is pretty!06:41
NEMSIZdoes ubuntu have standard a firewall installed?06:41
andrewskiAmaranth: yes, but very little, and you can do just about anything. :)06:41
andrewskiwladston: so which are you talking about?  ubuntu starts with bitstream, no?06:41
PaladineNEMSIZ, ubuntu comes with iptables installed06:41
eyequeueNEMSIZ, iptables06:41
wladstonandrewski: the problem is that it comes with a strange dithering more ...06:41
NEMSIZthanks06:41
Amaranth!firewall06:41
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)06:41
Paladineuse Firestarter in gnome/kde to manage the firewall through a GUI06:41
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andrewskiwladston: ah... this may be true.06:41
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wladstonandrewski: makes it look a litte dirty06:41
scifihehe weird, its just 2 lines called "Bear" which it doesnt remove dupe ^^06:41
NEMSIZhow can i change the settings of iptables?06:41
AmaranthNEMSIZ: Command line iptables setup will eat your soul.06:41
TLEI'm at a computer with a flat screen, if I encrease the resolution to 1024x768@75 (Which I know, from Windoze, that it can handle) then the screen does show the picture, but it also gives me an "out of range" warning. Any idea of what might course this. I have tried reconfiguring xorg.conf with dpkp-reconfigure xorg-server and wia the modelin generator online, but without succes.06:42
AmaranthNEMSIZ: Use firestarter (you have to install it)06:42
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StarQuakeis it me or is the ubuntuforums.org site not very reliable?06:42
andrewskiwladston: i can't remember the defaults, but i think i know what you mean.06:42
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AmaranthTLE: If you pull up the monitor menu (the menu to adjust brightness and junk on the monitor) that will probably go away06:42
andrewskiStarQuake: server status-wise or answer-wise?06:42
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StarQuakeserverstatus wise :D06:43
Paladineubuntuforums.org is going through server upgrades at the moment and is also low on funds, if you want to help, donate to the project06:43
wladstonandrewski: there are also some things that works better in windows ... for example, free space ... when I tried to install eclipse, after all my disk space was drawn, the system hooked up completely06:43
StarQuakea okay06:43
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AmaranthTLE: One of my monitors is a 17" and throws up a warning when you go over 1024x768 (!), doing that makes it go away06:43
andrewskiStarQuake: agreed, in the last few days.06:43
Dr_Williswladston,  you should of seen the way fonts on linux were - say.. 5 years ago. :P06:43
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hchi06:43
TLEAmaranth: I'll try06:43
wladstonDr_Willis: i remember ... it was TERRIBLE :)06:43
andrewskiwladston: hmm, i've not had that experience when filling up my drive. :-P06:43
hci need some help with WPA06:43
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hcanyone?06:43
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Dr_Williswladston,  still it was better then how windows handled them In many ways.06:44
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Amaranthhc: Use network-manager06:44
andrewski!wpa > hc06:44
nownottcan someone help when i try to boot my linux install i get error 15: file not found06:44
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StarQuakePaladine, do i donate to the ubuntu project in general or is there a ubuntuforum project06:44
Paladineif you go to ubuntuforums.org there is a link to donate06:44
wladstonandrewski: i thinkt he problem heappened cause it was in the middle of the instalations ... it should halt it threse is no free space06:44
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hcAmaranth: i can't find it in Synaptic, either with apt-get06:44
Amaranthhc: Install the network-manager-gnome package and run `nm-applet`. After that it'll run on login.06:44
StarQuakePaladine, lol, i can't get there :D06:44
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Amaranth!info network-manager-gnome06:44
ubotunetwork-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB06:44
StarQuakePaladine, I might donate a few quid then06:45
PaladineStarQuake, #ubuntuforums holds all the answers ;)06:45
Amaranthhc: Are you using ubuntu 6.06 (dapper)?06:45
andrewskii seem to have lost my Applications menu.  it's entirely empty.  when i run alacarte, it doesn't open.  does anyone have any ideas?06:45
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hcAmaranth: xubuntu06:45
wladstonDr_Willis: yeah!! I'm now realizing that linux has lots of pros ... after being a windows "poweruser"06:45
hc6.0606:45
StarQuakePaladine, ah that exists too then, let's have a look06:45
Amaranthhc: alright, it should be in main then06:45
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Dr_Williswladston,  its a windows 'powerluser' :)06:45
Amaranthhc: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome06:45
wladstonDr_Willis: LOL06:46
LightTitanI do not know how to use the bot. Someone have it tell me how to reset my resolution06:46
hcAmaranth: just did it. and then?06:46
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Amaranth!fixres > LightTitan06:46
Dr_Willis!fixres06:46
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:46
Dr_Willis:)06:46
AmaranthLightTitan: You've got a PM :)06:46
Amaranthhc: Did it install?06:46
hcAmaranth: yes06:46
Dr_Willis"You got Spam!"06:46
LightTitanAmarath Thank you06:46
Amaranthhc: Run `nm-applet`06:46
ACUAnyone knows how to configure and access Gshare06:47
wladstonDr_Willis: it's impressing how the stuff works without too much effort, if you know how to do it ... I just got windows sharing working here with my bro's computer .. now i gotta find out how to free my hd for him to acess without password need06:47
ACUWhat is the best Ftp server06:47
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Amaranthhc: a little icon should show up somewhere on your desktop, not sure where xubuntu's notification tray is shown06:47
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andrewskiLightTitan: you can do "ubotu: keyword" or "!keyword", or as Amaranth pointed out, you can send someone a message (a good idea, as this is a high-traffic channel!) via "!keyword > nick"06:47
Amaranthhc: it'll probably look like a computer06:47
hc/bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No file og folder (something like that, i have it on norwegian)06:47
hcwhen i tried to run nm-applet06:47
Amaranthhc: *boggle*06:47
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wladstoni'm going there for a read .. thanks very much, guys ...06:48
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Amaranthhc: sudo apt-get install esound06:48
Episteme73how do i stop cat /dev/video0 ?  I tried to bring it up, but it says this resource is busy. I assume that I can kill pid if I knew what pid it was.06:48
andrewskiO_o esd for nm-applet?  weird....06:48
LightTitanok... I got it back up to 1600X1400 but if I reboot it reverts to only being able to use they 640X48006:48
AmaranthEpisteme73: You ran 'cat /dev/video0'?06:49
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hcAmaranth: i got a little icon. double-clicked it. but i can only choose between WEP06:49
Episteme73amaranth yes, in a script I'm running, but now I can't shut it down.06:49
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AmaranthEpisteme73: killall cat06:49
KillboyholA06:49
Killboyhola06:49
Episteme73amaranth thanks!06:49
Amaranthhc: odd06:49
hcyeah.06:50
Killboyhola06:50
Killboychao06:50
Jack_Sparrow!es06:50
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:50
Amaranthhc: do you have wpasupplicant06:50
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hcAmaranth: yes06:50
Amaranthhc: hrm06:50
Amaranthhc: perhaps your hardware doesn't support WPA?06:50
hci does. i have an identical one06:51
Amaranthwith network-manager-gnome on my machine i can go all the way up to WPA2 Enterprise06:51
hcworks perfect on the windows laptop06:51
felicianoHi there06:51
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Amaranthhc: it might be misidentifying the wireless network06:51
felicianoI need some app that let me change the tempo at some mp3, but not like audacity06:51
Amaranthhc: on the drop down menu choose connect to other wireless network06:51
felicianosomething like atomixmp3 at windows06:51
CromagDKwine :D06:52
CromagDKand then try with amotix mp3 or virutalDJ06:52
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CromagDKvirtual*06:52
feliciano:(06:52
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felicianoCromagDK, nothing at linux work?06:52
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CromagDKactually donno hehe06:52
LightTitanI have Ubuntu in 1600X1400 now but when I try to reboot it does not give me that option... we I reboot via terminal and get back into Ubuntu it only lets me set the res at 640X480... why?06:52
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CromagDKhttp://www.beatforce.org/06:53
CromagDKmaybe06:53
TLEAmaranth: No luck I'm afraid, with the onscreen menu06:53
andrewski!fixres > LightTitan06:53
LightTitanI do not understand.06:54
andrewskiLightTitan: check your PMs06:54
goethewhat is the best way to convert wma to mp3s?06:54
andrewskior just look here:06:54
andrewski!fixres06:54
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:54
andrewskigoethe: install nautilus-script-audio, or whatever the name is.06:54
AmaranthTLE: Odd06:55
CromagDKfeliciano: found something06:55
CromagDKsec06:55
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CromagDKfeliciano: http://mixxx.sourceforge.net/ there06:55
CromagDKworks06:55
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AmaranthTLE: Try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:55
AmaranthTLE: It should help you setup the proper vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor06:55
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goetheandrewski:  awesome thank you06:56
A-L-P-H-Ahow do I update from 6.06 to edgy?  What are the repositories?06:56
andrewskigoethe: cheerss06:56
felicianoCromagDK I try mixxx, but this dont open my files and crash my xubuntu06:56
CalcMaster86 what's the code for ext3 for the mount command?06:56
Dr_Willis!update06:56
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.06:56
TLEok thanks Amaranth06:56
CromagDKfeliciano: oh..06:56
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CromagDKfeliciano: http://sound.condorow.net/ddj.html06:56
NightWolf_Hello. :)06:56
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CromagDKlook there might find something06:56
dhq_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301106:56
AmaranthCalcMaster86: mount -t ext3 /dev/foo /media/foo06:57
CalcMaster86thanks06:57
NightWolf_May I ask for some help ?06:57
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andrewskiNightWolf_: sure, just ask.06:57
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A-L-P-H-ADr_Willis: that didn't help... there's no listing for 6.1006:57
LightTitanI did that earler and now i can set my screen to 1600X1400 but when I reboot it goes back to 640X480... I am looking at the site you linked me but am unsure of which route I should take, because I am not really sure of what the problem is.06:57
eyequeueA-L-P-H-A, did you see the "update-manager -d" line?06:58
feliciano<CromagDK06:58
Dr_WillisA-L-P-H-A,  follow the same logic.. you basicially just chagne the sources. or use that last command.06:58
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CromagDKfeliciano: yes06:58
felicianoCromagDK, thanks... I try06:58
NightWolf_Well, I was trying to transfer some files, and nautilus crashed on me. Ever since, either I can't access the original directory (but can see its properties), or can access it (well, just a few of the files supposed to be there, that is).06:58
wimswhen is edgy scheduled to be released?06:58
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CromagDKfeliciano: np :)06:59
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eyequeueA-L-P-H-A, you've already been warned edgy is unstable i hope, right?06:59
jaysefhello06:59
NightWolf_So I was wondering what's going on. ^^"06:59
A-L-P-H-Aeyequeue: yup.06:59
eyequeuewims, end of october06:59
A-L-P-H-ADr_Willis: checking again. :)06:59
wimseyequeue,  thanks06:59
eyequeueA-L-P-H-A, :)06:59
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NightWolf_(I wouldn't usually mind losing a few files, but a gig is another story :/)07:00
wimsanybody know which kernel will be shipped with edgy ?07:00
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A-L-P-H-Acurrently, 6.06 is locking up on me a few times a day... I think it's a nvidia driver issue... so I want the lastest driver to check.07:01
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beerfanIf I remove and upgrade a driver (madwifi in this case) will I mess up apt somehow?07:01
Dutchyis there a way i can make alt-tab work for all programs? i installed Neverwinter Nights and i cant alt-tab from that07:01
A-L-P-H-AI don't think x-chat, azureus, or firefox has the ability to lockup xorg, so I'm thinking video driver.07:01
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nownottim in the live cd how to i mount my linux partition07:01
eyequeuenownott, what device?07:02
nownottharddrive07:02
eyequeuenownott, what /dev07:02
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nownottsda307:02
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eyequeuenownott, mount /dev/sda3 /your/mount/point07:03
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eyequeuenownott, with a sudo in front, sorry07:03
epimeteohi everyone! are the ubuntuforums down?07:03
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Episteme73epimeteo yes seems that way07:04
epimeteo:(07:04
epimeteothx Episteme73 :)07:04
Episteme73epimeteo yeah, me too.07:04
beerfanAre drivers installed with a package? I just searched for madwifi and I don't see a package for it so if I manually upgrade the madwifi drivers I shouldn't mess up the apt system right?07:05
eyequeueubuntu forums seem to work for me07:05
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dudanogueirahello all!07:06
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james296how do I know what repositories need to be checked so I dont have to worry about gettin any error popups coming up?07:08
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eyequeue!repos > james29607:08
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ajmendozahla07:09
LightTitanI have followed the website and had it redetect my video drivers and all, I think it is going to work and want to reboot to see if it did, but it still will not give me the reboot option... I know I can reboot via terminal but just want to know if there is something I may not have done and need to do before I reboot.07:09
dudanogueiraeyequeue: how can i get a list of !thiscomands?07:09
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jaysefhow i do get the latest source so i can build madwifi ?07:09
eyequeuedudanogueira, watch the bot, there will be a url07:09
eyequeue!svojbsvosafjdbv07:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about svojbsvosafjdbv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:09
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jaysefapt-get install kernel-source-2.x.y07:09
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eyequeuedudanogueira,  ^^07:09
DeAthsHeAdhey, my first time on an IRC network :)07:10
dudanogueiraeyequeue: cool :)07:10
dudanogueiraDeAthsHeAd: be welcome :)07:10
DeAthsHeAdthnx :)07:10
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eyequeuedudanogueira,  for talking to the bot, /msg ubotu help, too :)07:10
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LightTitanAmaranth, I have redetected my video drivers. When i go to reboot it does not give me that option. Why?07:10
AmaranthLightTitan: I dunno. :/07:11
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Amaranthnvidia drivers suck :P07:11
ThomasOI just decided to use Ubuntu as my Linux distro...is there a difference between Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu other than the Window Manager used?07:11
hcstill no progress with WPA :/07:11
eyequeueThomasO, no, though those will effect memory used etc07:11
dudanogueiraLightTitan: when configuring video drivers, you can only restart the X server with ctrl+alt+backspace :)07:11
LightTitanAmaranth, ok I am going to reboot via terminal... hopefully my resolution is correct on return.07:11
Gargoyleeyequeue: Can I PM you? (It's not a techy question)07:11
eyequeueGargoyle, go for it :)07:12
LightTitandudanogueira, oh ok. Thank you.07:12
DeAthsHeAdwhich is th easiest Linux?07:12
ThomasOWhich environment is closest to Sun Solaris (what is used at my university)?07:12
hcubuntu07:12
dudanogueiraDeAthsHeAd: guess :)07:12
vishaheasy Linux07:12
DeAthsHeAdok07:12
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DeAthsHeAdcn I install games on it?07:12
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DeAthsHeAdlik say gta sa?07:12
james296what do I do to have Ubuntu use the default repositories I had before I had Automatix?07:12
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Dr_WillisDeAthsHeAd,  Linux is not windows.. some games can be made to run with WINE. and Cedega..  but dont depend on it.07:13
beerfanDeAthsHeAd, google for Cedega for a list of games which you can run07:13
dudanogueiraDeAthsHeAd: sure... there are a lot of games running natively, and also other plataforms running with cedega, wine, virtual machines  ando others :)07:13
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james296well07:13
james296?07:13
Dr_Willis!vmware07:14
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare07:14
DeAthsHeAdi m a gamer. does tht mean linux is nt fr me?07:14
beerfanprobably07:14
dudanogueiraDeAthsHeAd: here in brazil we have the folks of Ubuntu Games (www.ubuntugames.org) with a script (like automatix) that installs some sort of games.07:14
Dr_WillisDeAthsHeAd,  the idea of being a 'gamer' is like being a "Drinker" or "drug addict" :P07:14
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dudanogueiraDeAthsHeAd: unfortunately, only in portuguese :(07:14
eyequeue!games07:14
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php07:15
DeAthsHeAdi absolutely love the xgl interface :)07:15
DeAthsHeAdtoo bad abt tht :(07:15
eyequeue!xgl07:15
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:15
VisezTrancewhere can i find the debug versions for the programs in the multiverse repository ?07:15
NightWolf_I was trying to transfer some files, and nautilus crashed on me. Now either I can't access the original directory (but can see its properties - when trying to open the directory nautilus freezes), or can access it (but can only see a small part of the files supposed to be there, that is). Is there any way to recover, or are they definitely lost ?07:15
beerfan!drivers07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
beerfan!madwifi07:15
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:15
ThomasOUhm, which environment for Ubuntu is closest to the environment used by Solaris 10?07:15
\kUhLfiRe`!your shorts07:15
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about your shorts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
dudanogueiraDeAthsHeAd: ill love it when i buy my all brand new notebook. actually xgl is too much for my computer =)07:15
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\kUhLfiRe`lol ;)07:15
DeAthsHeAdlol :)07:15
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DarkFoghello07:16
m0dYcould the "universe" repo be having pkgs which is in the "main" repo ? if so.. which one will be installed?07:16
eyequeuem0dY, no, they are separate lists07:16
james296so how can I reset the repositories to how they were before Automatix?07:16
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eyequeuejames296, just enable main and restricted, i guess07:16
m0dYaha i see07:16
eyequeuejames296, and only ubuntu07:16
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DeAthsHeAdwell my pal hs xgl runnin on his ddr2 256 mb n its supposedly nt very resorce intensive07:17
Adamany one know how I can setup remote ssh for my ubuntu box?07:17
james296well I get errors...07:17
jaysefwhat is the latest kernel source ?07:17
ThomasONM. I guess it runs on a modified GNOME.07:17
eyequeueAdam, sudo apt-get install openssh-server07:17
DeAthsHeAdprobably07:17
bretzelWow I am installing my WindowsXP Pro within VMWare -- lokks really cool!07:17
ThomasOOh, yeah. What kind of firewall will I need for Ubuntu?07:17
DubiousAllianceHave installed 6.06 LTS - Running wireless, After log on, I get a message about nm-applet needing the default keyring password - I've done some checking on internet and advise rancges from "this is the correct behavior" to "Remove the wireless network controller" - any help?07:17
Adamcheers07:17
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eyequeue!info linux-source-2.6.1507:17
ubotulinux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 43476 kB, installed size 43612 kB07:18
DeAthsHeAdwats vm ware?07:18
DarkFogi'm sorry, but what's thedifference betweenthe ubuntu, kubuntu, edubutntu and the Xubuntu07:18
RedGhostemulator, the paid version, workstation07:18
RedGhostis amazing07:18
dhq_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2301107:18
eyequeueDarkFog, the user interface07:18
DeAthsHeAdok07:18
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eyequeueDarkFog, gnome, kde, gnome, and xfce07:18
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ThomasOOK folks. I'm out. In a little while, I'll be downloading Ubuntu Linux and partitioning my HDD and stuff. It'll be awesome.07:18
RedGhostgnome > o:07:18
bretzelDeAthsHeAd: VMWare = commercial version or free version of virtual machine07:19
jesusjol07:19
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eyequeueDarkFog, edubuntu being slanted toward education07:19
Dr_WillisHmm the vmware wiki seems a little out of date07:19
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DarkFogeyequeue, i dont know the technical stuff, what's the difference07:19
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ThomasOOne last question before I leave...07:19
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ThomasOHow should I parition my HDD? It's 300GB. How much space should I allocate to Windows XP, Ubuntu, and Documents?07:20
foxpaulhi all - does anyone know why the sound quality on my laptop is really bad when i resume from suspend?07:20
eyequeueDarkFog, gnome is what is standard ubuntu, kde is less lightweight, xfce is most lightweight07:20
foxpaulthe sound is jumping and scratchy.07:20
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DubiousAllianceHave installed 6.06 LTS - Running wireless, After log on, I get a message about nm-applet needing the default keyring password - I've done some checking on internet and advise ranges from "this is the correct behavior" to "Remove the wireless network controller" - any help?07:20
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xipietotecI broke my screensaver. I *think* It has to do with me installing XGL, and then uninstalling it, but now none of the screensavers work, and they all crash my laptop. Even going into Screen-saver management crashes the laptop07:21
xipietotecI think I broke open-gl07:21
kylebakedsudo fix open-gl07:21
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marikhey i have a PCI device that, when i boot, the BIOS assigns it the IRQ: NA. The board is an Asus A7N8X Deluxe.  I've tried enabling/disabling the APIC. I tried to set up some manual IRQs but the BIOS won't let me.  The card doesn't work in any operating system that loads afterwards.. the driver for it fails in method: request_irq.  I would think that getting the BIOS to give it an IRQ would be the first step in getting the card working07:21
marik(it works apparently on every system except this one).  so, has anyone run into this sort of problem before or might know anything that would help me?07:21
snedarhi! does anyone know about a tool to make screenshots including the mouse cursor and tooltips?07:22
xipietotecfix is not a recognized command07:22
kozmicwhats the best video edition software for linux?07:22
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ubuntuAmaranth, I used that site you gave me to redetect my drivers. But now when I try to startx it does the whole unable to startx something about the drivers being incorrect... how do I fix that. Right now I am on the LiveCD so I can talk to you.07:23
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NightWolf_Well, I'll keep searching, thanks anyway :)07:23
jattsnedar: AFAIK doing screenshots including the mouse cursor is not possible within X.07:23
xipietotecAnyone have any advice for fixing my open-gl?07:23
cwilluanybody aware of a way to make pam always ask for a username?07:23
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snedarjatt: okay, thanks, then I'll just include a mouse cursor with the gimp07:24
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cwillusnedar: a vnc-based capture would work07:24
jattsnedar: I read about a trick using VNC, and then taking a screenshot of the VNC screen, that would include the cursor.07:24
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cwillusnedar: I believe there's a package in synaptic that'll record vnc sessions;  would probably work for you07:25
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xipietotecIt's a pretty damn big problem, because I can't even close my laptop's cover leave it running.07:25
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fuocoanyone has any experience with wireless APs ?07:25
fuocoand can recommend me a good brand/model ?07:26
xipietotecAnd it causes a complete lockup, meaning I have to use a paper-clip on the little "reset" button.07:26
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ubuntuAmaranth, This is LightTitan.... I think I messed up my video drivers... I can not get back into graphical side of Ubuntu now. How do I fix it?07:26
snedarcwillu, jatt: sounds a bit too difficult, then I might have more luck recording a video from the screen and taking a screenshot from that07:26
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eyequeueubuntu, /nick lighttitan07:26
snedar(vnc is with remote desktops, isn't it?)07:26
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LightTitanlol thanks eyequeue07:27
eyequeueLightTitan, no prob, less confusing :)07:27
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Dr_Willisvnc is a handy tool07:27
tritanhello07:27
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LightTitaneyequeue, ya... I am on my liveCD right now becuase I can not get startx to work on my ubuntu installation :(07:27
tritanim having a problem with an IDE-drive in my PC - I cant write on it07:28
jattsnedar: yes you can access remote desktop with it, but is not as fast as the RDP protocol used by Windows Remote desktop. VNC is too slow.07:28
gemeindebahello i had a problem with a crashing firefox (all the time) now i started from a terminal. can anybody help with the error message, even if it is only something about a failed plugin? if a paste here it would be 2 to 3 lines (the errormessage) may i?07:28
eyequeueLightTitan, gotcha07:28
tritani recently installed Ubuntu without adding a function to it or whatsoever, but I would like to be able to use it :)07:28
ladydoor!paste07:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:28
sethkgemeindeba, two lines is ok, otherwise use the pastebin07:28
gemeindebaLoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so [/usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so: undefined symbol: XtCalloc] 07:28
ladydoorgemeindeba: what sethk said07:28
computeradministAmaranth: Hey, you helped me with the flatscreen resolution prob. earlier. Turn out the reason why none of the HOWTO's I've found works, was because I added the modelines to the wrong section of xorg.conf. *Looks down in credible embarresment*. So that's what you get for not actually reading... Thanks again07:29
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TLEAmaranth: Hey, you helped me with the flatscreen resolution prob. earlier. Turn out the reason why none of the HOWTO's I've found works, was because I added the modelines to the wrong section of xorg.conf. *Looks down in credible embarresment*. So that's what you get for not actually reading... Thanks again07:29
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tritananyone able to help? :(07:29
TENSomething weird under Xubuntu 6.06.1 LTS: in all Modes lines of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I have now already removed all resolutions except 1024x768. When the monitor is not connected during startup, X *still* comes up in 640x480 (i.e. even though there is no such resolution in xorg.conf anymore). Any ideas how to prevent this, i.e. force both the bootloader (like the Live CD can do!) and X into the right resolutions?07:29
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DeAthsHeAdhi07:29
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jaysefplease can someone help me for a minute07:30
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gemeindebaok, i suppose the message i posted does not make much sense?07:30
gemeindebaahem, pasted, not posted07:30
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xipietotecIf someone could please help me repair open-gl so my system would stop crashing I'd be very grateful07:30
sethkgemeindeba, makes perfect sense, why wouldn't it?07:30
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LightTitanCan anyone help me out, I can not get back into my ubuntu installation becuase I can not get my graphics to work. How do I revert back to the generic video drivers?07:30
cwilluxipietotec: what's the problem?07:30
kylebakedwhats a good gnome-terminal replacement that offeres transparency?07:30
gemeindebasethk, i suppose it makes sense :)07:30
sethkgemeindeba, that looks like a firefox build from a different distribution.07:31
cwilluLightTitan: change the driver listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to vesa from whatever it currently is07:31
LightTitancwillu, Thank you so much. I will try that.07:31
xipietoteccwillu: I installed XGL, found out my laptop couldn't run it, so I uninstalled it, and without thinking clicked "including all dependencies", so now whenever my screensaver comes up it crashes the whole system07:31
sethkgemeindeba, that's not where that library lives on ubuntu.  let me double check07:31
gemeindebasethk, no that is how ubuntu came. but i installed a adobe plugin afterwards07:31
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sethkgemeindeba, the plug in, then, is not right07:32
gemeindebasethk, thank you for your effort and patience!07:32
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tritananyone can help over here?07:32
xipietotecand forces me to do a reboot with the little paper-clip in the back of the laptop button.07:32
sethkgemeindeba, it's out of sync with the library, hence the missing symbol07:32
cwilluxipietotec: have you removed the xgl repositories (if you enabled/added any)?07:32
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xipietotecYes.07:32
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jaysefplease can someone help me for a minute, im trying to install kernel source kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz207:32
fooI do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas why I get this?07:32
sethkgemeindeba, can you find that plugin from the ubuntu repositories?07:32
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kozmicxipietotec: you know you can hold down the power button in 5 seconds to halt a laptop. just a tip :)07:32
gemeindebasethk, i will check07:32
jaysefso i can build the madwifi driver07:32
cwilluxipietotec: one sec07:32
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xipietoteckozmic: Not when it completely crashes, and continuously tries to reboot Gnome.07:33
sethkgemeindeba, I have those libraries, but that is because I installed firefox from the mozilla.org site, and not from the repositories07:33
TENfoo The definitions should be in /etc/X11/rgb.txt AFAIK07:33
cwilluxipietotec: yes actually, but anyways :p07:33
cwilluxipietotec: open synaptic07:33
sethkgemeindeba, you have to do it consistently.  if you want to isntall a plug in from a non-repository site, you also have to install the browser that way.  and v.v.07:33
gemeindebasethk, i followed a guide from www.ubuntuguide.org to install some addons07:33
Eclypsehey you guys, does anyone know of any programs that can open compressed .dmg's? I think the one I have is a .dmg.bz or .bz2, any ideas?07:33
cwilluxipietotec: go to status, select installed (local or obsolete)07:33
|CADE|what directory would "libgstdecodebin.so" be in?07:33
gemeindebasethk, ok, that is an eye opener07:34
sethkgemeindeba, I don't take any responsibility for what the guide says07:34
xipietotecgot it07:34
jattfoo: do you have the xrgb package installed?07:34
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sethkgemeindeba, As an example, I installed firefox in /usr/local/firefox, from the mozilla web site07:34
cwilluxipietotec: k07:34
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gemeindebasethk, i wouldnt expect you too, you can only learn with falling and standing up07:34
cwilluone more sec :p07:34
eyequeueEclypse, bunzip2 it07:34
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OnimaeCan someone tell me what the best way to get .ape files to play in Ubuntu, is?07:34
sethkgemeindeba, and I have the file:  /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so07:34
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gemeindebasethk, but how to solve that problem is a total mystery to me07:34
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Eclypseeyequeue, is that the name of the app or what? I don't think it's installed by default :P07:34
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Neo8750what is ape?07:34
cwilluxipietotec: anything in there with xorg, gl, compiz, xgl, etc will cause you issues07:34
expxamarok can play ape?07:35
OnimaeIt's a file format, Neo8750.07:35
ladydoorEclypse: it's installed by default07:35
OnimaeAmarok?07:35
OnimaeCan it play them by default?07:35
sethkgemeindeba, the quick way is to do what I did, install firefox from the mozilla.org site into a different directory.07:35
ladydoorEclypse: it unzips bz2 files zipped by bzip207:35
sethkgemeindeba, then install the plugins from within firefox07:35
Eclypseladydoor really? hmm, I'll try it now then.07:35
|CADE|what directory would "libgstdecodebin.so" be in?07:35
sethkgemeindeba, and everything will be consistent.07:35
cwilluxipietotec: so anything you find there, select, then go to the package menu, go to force version, and force it to an older version (i can't remember if it'll display the currently installed version there)07:35
eyequeue!info bzip207:35
ubotubzip2: high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 258 kB, installed size 488 kB07:35
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expxmaybe need some addons07:35
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Eclypseladydoor this isant just any .bz2, this is .dmg.bz2 lol, the actual DMG file is compressed with .bz07:36
foojatt: I just installed it and still get the same problewm07:36
kozmicjpegtran <-- what package is that binary in?07:36
Eclypseladydoor so it might be a bit more complex :P07:36
sethkgemeindeba, it's not exactly the recommended way, but it works and it let's you keep up with the latest firefox release instead of having to wait for ubuntu to get around to making a package for the release07:36
eyequeueEclypse, it should be there, but sudo apt-get install bzip207:36
cwilluxipietotec: ping me when you've got it07:36
ladydoorEclypse: right, but once you un-bzip2 it it'll just be .dmg, i promise07:36
Neo8750doesn't m[player play ape?07:36
Eclypseladydoor, thanks, I'll try it now and tell you how it goes.07:36
eyequeueEclypse, bunzip2 will work on it, regardless of whatever dmg is07:36
ladydoorEclypse: sweet :-)07:36
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DaveyJhow do i fully switch over to kde desktop (so thats the default one?)07:36
DaveyJi currently have kde and gnome installed07:36
OnimaeNeo8750: I don't know. Let me check...07:36
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sethkgemeindeba, gemeindeba the symbol it is talking about XtCalloc, is in an X development library.  so you might try installing the X development packages, see if the problem goes away.07:37
gemeindebasethk, ok, i will try that! thanks. if i install ff from the mozilla site, will ubuntu know that it is that other install it needs to use? and also, i installed that plugin using apt-get i am sure, and not firefox07:37
xipietotecHrrmm....I found an x-server-xorg-driver07:37
xipietotecthe rest are libgl's07:37
gemeindebasethk, i wouldnt know how to install the x devel packages07:37
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cwilluxipietotec: k, if they're showing up in the obsolete folder, they need to be forced to the older version07:37
cwilluincluding the gl stuff07:37
sethkgemeindeba, go into synaptic, select search, set the pulldown to name, and search for    x dev   (thats x space dev)07:37
sethkgemeindeba, and it will show you all packages that contain both x and dev07:38
xipietotecpretty much everything in the obsolete folder?07:38
OnimaeNeo8750: No, it can't.07:38
Eclypseladydoor, would it be a command like bzip2 -d?07:38
sethkgemeindeba, if you install it separately, it's true that the package manager won't know about it.  however, if you install it to a different directory, it won't interfere with anything else either.07:38
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gemeindebasethk, thats a mighty long list. you mean that add/remove thing don't you07:38
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eyequeuebunzip2 (1)          - a block-sorting file compressor, v1.0.307:39
cwilluxipietotec: probably;  anything in there was either installed via a downloaded deb file by hand, or was from a repository that you're no longer using07:39
Neo8750Eclypse: yes07:39
ladydoorEclypse: no, it would just be bunzip2 filename07:39
sethkgemeindeba, yes.  I'm not saying install everything with x and dev in the package name, choose the ones that make sense.  such as    xwhatever-dev07:39
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Eclypseladydoor hmm, well I'm using bzip2 -d and it appears to be working07:39
Eclypseladydoor, moreso then any other program :)07:39
sethkgemeindeba, I can search for XtCalloc, and then find the file it's in, and then find the package that contains that file, but it would take a while for that search to run.07:39
Neo8750bzip2 = bunzip207:40
gemeindebasethk, ok, i will need to reread all your messages slowly so that i can catch up with your advice. i will try to annoy you again in a couple of minutes.07:40
foojatt: Any other ideas?07:40
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xipietotecwhen I try to force version libgl1-mesa it tells me it will remove the following: ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core07:40
foo~$ xterm -bg black07:40
fooWarning: Color name "black" is not defined07:40
fooAny ideas why I get that? Hm07:40
sethkgemeindeba, I was giving you several alternatives, you don't need to do them all, obviously.07:40
ladydoorEclypse: you can do it that way, but it's generally considered easier/better to use bzip2 to zip and bunzip2 to unzip07:41
cwilluxipietotec: don't remove, just force to a previous version07:41
cwillunevermind :p07:41
gemeindebasethk, i gathered that, thank you. will try the one which seems do-able for me :)07:41
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ladydoorEclypse: though either can serve either function if you use the "force" options07:41
Eclypseladydoor ah ic, well if it doesn't work I'll try it your way, but it appears to be really doing more then I ever thought it would :)07:41
LightTitanwhat is the comman to restart my xserver?07:41
LightTitan'07:41
xipietotecIt's telling me it'll remove it if I try and force version07:41
ladydoorEclypse: sweet. that's good news :-)07:41
TENgemeindeba /lastlog sethk07:41
LightTitanor my graphics should I say07:41
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Eclypseladydoor, yep, I tried EVERYTHING, and nothing worked, I even tried some shit on windows (nothing on windows is even close to capable to do such things...)07:42
LightTitanWhat is the command to restart my graphics07:42
gemeindebaten lastlog unknown command07:42
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cwilluxipietotec: I believe that's a recent package split, so it should be okay;  jot down the package though, so you can reinstall from the terminal if you need to07:42
ladydoorEclypse: yikes. yeah, bzip2/bunzip2 is just a good de/compressor07:42
cwilluxipietotec: you know how to install/update from the command line?07:42
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xipietotecyeah07:42
cwilluk07:42
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LightTitancwillu, how do I restart my graphics again? BTW I am back into my Ubuntu installation thanks :)07:43
sethkEclypse, there is nothing wrong with doing bzip -d07:43
Eclypseladydoor, yeah because I don't have a Mac handy :(07:43
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EmxBAwhat do i need for make and such commands?07:43
Eclypsesethk good07:43
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ladydoorEclypse: hmm07:43
EmxBAgcc autoconf automake ?07:43
TENgemeindeba Your IRC client may have something similar by another name. It's basically e.g. irssi's way of doing a "grep keyword" on the scroll-back buffer07:43
sethkEclypse, in fact, I suggest that new people use the separate commands, rather than the shortcuts that hide the commands07:43
BiSk-8hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?07:43
ladydoorEmxBA: you need to install build-essential07:43
cwilluxipietotec: once you've installed the forced versions, you should be able to update as normal to get everything up to date again, minus the xgl stuff07:43
Eclypsesethk yes I've always been a fan of the terminal :)07:43
EmxBAladydorr: and some more - for compiling07:43
sethkEclypse, such as, you can hide the bunzip2 step by using the j command on tar, which is fine if you know what you are doing07:43
EmxBA*ladydoor07:43
ladydoorsethk: i wouldn't really call "bunzip2" a shortcut hiding a command..07:44
gemeindebaten thanks it logs all messages directed to me in another window07:44
sethkladydoor, tar with j is a shortcut hiding the bunzip2 command07:44
BiSk-8brb07:44
sethkEclypse, bunzip2 is a synonym for bzip -d07:44
sethkEclypse, I wasn't talking about bzip2 -d vs bunzip207:44
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ladydoorsethk: oh, check.07:45
sethkladydoor,  I wasn't talking about bzip2 -d vs bunzip207:45
ladydoorsethk: check07:45
Eclypsesethk it's allllllll good, I've been trying to figure this out for 2 days07:45
vishahIn which file do I set environment variables in ubuntu?07:45
Eclypseso now that its finally showing some promise, I'm happy07:45
ladydoorEmxBA: what do you mean? in order to compile programs you need to install build-essential and you should be fine unless it has unresolved dependencies, which it would tell you :-)07:45
sethkladydoor, I tell people the same with doing loopback mounts.   do the separate losetup and mount command, rather than using the shortcut where mount runs losetup for you.07:45
ladydoorEclypse: sweet!07:45
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xipietotecokay...attempting...here goes nothing07:45
BiSk-8hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?07:45
ladydoorsethk: oh, ok. cool07:45
EmxBAladydoor: ah, ok ;)07:45
TENgemeindeba BTW what's ba ?07:45
sethkEclypse, don't struggle when you can ask07:46
LightTitanhow do I reset my graphics after I install a new driver?07:46
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ladydoorEmxBA: sweet :-)07:46
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cwilluxipietotec: good luck :)07:46
sethkEclypse, well, struggle a bit, it helps you learn, but then ask.  :)07:46
ladydoorEclypse: totally. people are glad to help07:46
Eclypsesethk, yeah I know, lol. the Ubuntu Community is really the largest helpful community on the net lol07:46
Eclypsesethk, ladydoor, what I usually do is I spend a couple hours trying to figrue it out, then I ask07:46
vishahhi, in which file do I set environment variables?07:46
Eclypsethats how I learned a shitload about Linux07:46
expxctrl_alt_backspace to restart your X07:46
gemeindebaten if you are referring to my nick, it is supposed to say gemeindebau but the client i think does not accept names that long. hence it cut off the u from the nick (Wolfgang Ambros: Du bist die Blume aus dem Gemeindebau)07:46
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xipietotecYEY!!!!07:47
cwilluxipietotec: :)07:47
xipietotecI opened the screensaver manager without crashing07:47
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TENIs there a way to get "My bugs" in https://launchpad.net/malone (as e.g. in Bugzilla) - i.e. not the ones *assigned* *to* oneself, but the ones *reported* ?07:47
xipietotecthankyouthankyouthankyou =D07:47
cwillulol07:47
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TENgemeindeba OIC looked like a German license plate or department acronym07:48
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sethkEclypse, that's really good, some people don't have the tolerance for frustration, but you really do learn a lot more struggling first, then asking.07:48
xipietotecMy new computer will have xgl though, it's got the hardware for it07:48
cwilluxipietotec: wanna return the favour?07:48
xipietotecSure =)07:48
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cwilluxipietotec: see if you can find a way to force pam to always ask for a username :)07:48
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cwilluI really don't wanna write a module to do it07:48
Eclypsesethk, I'm an existentialist, I like open-ended problems, I'm a good hacker, I can tweak things for hours as long as I see some progress being made.07:49
gemeindebaten gemeindebau is actually an acronym for social housing provided by the local authorities07:49
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TENNot much of an acronym, is it? ;-)07:49
cwilluxipietotec: it looks like it'll do what I want if I can force the username provided by the app to blank, but I'm clueless as to how to do that07:49
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scifianyone know of a gui SQLite administrator ?07:50
gemeindebaten no07:50
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gemeindebaten but i think it is a kind of slang. it should be sozialwohnung.07:50
scifithats a no then :P07:51
TENWhere's that common term? Southeastern states?07:51
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TEN+a07:52
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sergio_ola...07:52
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Adamwhere is the default hotplug directory on 6.06.1?07:52
fooxterm -bg black07:52
fooWarning: Color name "black" is not defined07:52
fooerr, what the hec07:52
fooWhy am I getting that?07:52
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fooNo one seems to know.07:52
sergio_ola... sou novo aqui....07:52
sergio_estou um tanto confuso07:53
Homerare there any RPGs for Linux?07:53
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TENfoo Ag: The definitions should be in /etc/X11/rgb.txt AFAIK HTH07:53
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meherenhow do i delete a word from the abiword dictionary the word is Achileus07:53
eXistenZWhat is the umask command for07:53
fooTEN: Yeah, they are.07:53
eyequeueman umask07:54
Neo8750eXistenZ: man umask07:54
eXistenZeyequeue, I know this. doesn't work07:54
eXistenZNeo8750, existenz@server1:~$ man umask07:54
eXistenZNo manual entry for umask07:54
eyequeueeXistenZ, you have no man command?07:54
Neo8750no entry07:54
eXistenZeyequeue, Don't you read?07:54
eXistenZIt says no entry07:54
enycmeep moop07:54
eyequeueeXistenZ, chill please07:55
TENfoo Well mine has a line saying 0 0 0 black07:55
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Neo8750eXistenZ: http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/umask.1.asp07:55
scifianyone know how to insert several text files into one text file ?07:55
fooTEN: So does mine.07:55
ladydoor!attitude07:55
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:55
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Neo8750!botsnack07:55
ubotuYum!07:55
eyequeueeXistenZ, sudo apt-get install manpages-posix;man umask07:55
fooladydoor: uh, hopefully that wasn't for me. I wasn't giving attitude ...07:56
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eyequeue!info manpages-posix07:56
xipietotecHrrmmm....which libpam?07:56
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ladydoorfoo: not for you. for eXistenZ07:56
ubotumanpages-posix: Manual pages about using POSIX system. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (dapper), package size 842 kB, installed size 1196 kB07:56
fooTEN: Weird, eh? I installed xrgb. Do I need to restart or something07:56
fooladydoor: ah, my bad :)07:56
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ladydoor:-)07:56
eXistenZladydoor, Do you hate me?07:56
ketsugi|zzZ!guidelines07:56
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:56
marcel__hello, i try to play a .avi whit VLC but i have no sound sometimes i hear about 0,5 sec a sound and then its gone does someone know what could be the problem?07:56
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don_jrhow can I tell what driver an adapter is using?07:56
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xipietoteccwillu: which libpam are you working with?07:57
vishahIf i want to add a PATH, what should I do?07:57
marcel__!avi07:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:57
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scifianyone know how to insert several text files into one text file ?07:57
eyequeuescifi, cat07:58
Eclypseladydoor, this is odd, it said Trailing garbage after EOF ignored, and the file wasent open-able :(07:58
eyequeuecat (1)              - concatenate files and print on the standard output07:58
eyequeuecat (1posix)         - concatenate and print files07:58
ladydooreXistenZ: no...i just think that comments like "don't you read?" are unhelpful and insulting any any situation, but especially if someone's trying to help you07:58
TENfoo I don't know. My Xubuntu's X is showing its own share of weirdness, starting in resolutions it doesn't even have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (seems to be tricky to).07:58
ladydoorEclypse: with what program?07:58
jazzrockerladydoor++07:58
eXistenZladydoor, but he also claimed things that are not right.07:58
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fooTEN: ah, weird. I had to relogin . hmm07:58
fooTEN: It works now07:58
TENMaybe we should be looking for some sort of #xorg ? ;-)07:58
cwilluxipietotec: 0.79 it looks like (standard ubuntu)07:58
fooTEN: hehe07:58
Eclypseladydoor,  hmm, well it doesnt appear to know of any program that can open .dmg's lol07:58
BiSk-8hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?07:58
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jazzrockerfoo, that's actually fairly common <- needing to logout/back in07:58
ladydooreXistenZ: ok, i'm not saying he was right. there really isn't a man entry for umask on my system either. however, that's no cause to get mad07:59
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foojazzrocker: Yeah, but after installing that package.. hmm.07:59
Eclypseladydoor, and I think it should be a bit larger, since my friend told me the extracted image should be 4.something GB, and its only 3.4 :P07:59
eyequeueeXistenZ, again, sudo apt-get install manpages-posix;man umask07:59
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TENfoo Lucky you, JIT for the evening news ;-)07:59
eXistenZladydoor, umask is a bash command07:59
scifieyequeue: thx will see if i can work it out07:59
fooTEN: JIT ? Hm07:59
eyequeuescifi, no prob07:59
ladydooreXistenZ: if you would care to continue this conversation in a private message, i'd be fine with that, but i'm afraid it's gone off-topic07:59
eXistenZThat's okay08:00
Ribscheck out #ubuntu-offtopic then :)08:00
eyequeueumask (1posix)       - get or set the file mode creation mask08:00
eyequeueumask (3posix)       - set and get the file mode creation mask08:00
eyequeueumask (2)            - set file mode creation mask08:00
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TENfoo Just in time - well not yet if you're in the Americas of course08:00
ladydoorEclypse: hmmm.i'm really sorry, but i don't know what to do to fix it :-(08:00
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scifieyequeue: forgot, how do i get out of "man" when in console :P08:01
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eyequeuescifi, "q" (you're in "less")08:01
enycscifi: well man  just calls on a pager08:01
ladydoorscifi: q08:01
Eclypseladydoor hmm, I'll fiddle around with it for a few more hours :P lol08:01
eyequeuescifi, "q" for quit in less08:01
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ladydoorEclypse: aw...good luck08:01
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enycscifi: it normally uses less in ubunt  so press 'q'08:01
Eclypseladydoor Linux is showing a lot more promise then windows :)08:01
scifity08:01
scifiyeh Q worked08:01
enycscifi: I think you mean q08:01
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Neo8750well here i go 50/50 chance system will be screwed08:01
enycscifi: q is not the same letter as Q ;-)08:01
scifieven after a few days of not using linux, i forget these things so easily :( ....yeh i meant q08:01
don_jrI'm needing to use ndiswrapper to try and run my wireless usb device, how can I tell what driver it is using so I can blacklist it and load the new one?08:01
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BiSk-8hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?08:02
gemeindebasethk, i did what seemed easiest. i downloaded ff from moz and unpacked it. it does sit on my desktop, and i can run the version 1.5.0.6 by doubleclicking on on the firefox shell script.  now, where do i best put that directory?08:02
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DaveyJhey08:02
Neo8750don_jr: one second08:02
VegetaHow can I edit and save the /etc/fstab ? It keeps saying acces denied... It doesn't ask for password or anything. Why?08:03
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eyequeueVegeta, sudo08:03
DaveyJi currently have KDE and gnome installed.. how do i do a full switch to kubuntu by default?08:03
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ladydoorEclypse: sweet! you might google, like, filetype linux to find something08:03
EcnassianerI have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?08:03
cl2imsonsudo vi /etc/fstab08:03
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don_jrneo8750 take your time.08:03
ladydoorVegeta: you need to su, but first you need to copy it08:03
ladydoorVegeta: *use sudo i mean, not su08:03
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Neo8750http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List08:03
recon0I just added the xpenguins applet. Now all of my panels are frozen, even after rebooting. Anything I can do?08:03
eyequeueladydoor, :)08:03
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ladydoorVegeta: and i would use these commands:  1) sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak  2) sudo nano -w /etc/fstab08:03
Vegetaladydoor: HOw do you mean?08:03
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Eclypseladydoor, googling rarly ever helps me llol08:03
Vegetaok ill try08:03
ladydoorVegeta: good luck!08:03
Vegeta:)08:03
ladydoorEclypse: yeah...well, good luck!08:03
ladydooreyequeue: haha08:03
cwillucd ~08:03
cwilluoops08:03
villerhow can I change the language in GNOME?08:03
Eclypseladydoor, ty08:03
cwilluwrong window :p08:03
ladydoorEclypse: np08:04
link_36pAnyone here know how i can fix apt-get? It wont install anything or upgrade and gives the error "E: The package lg3d-core needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.08:04
link_36p"08:04
Neo8750don_jr: also use lsusb to find out what card you have08:04
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recon0Is there any way to reset my panels? All of them have frozen. Rebooting doesn't help.08:04
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eyequeueviller, install whatever you want, then system > administration > language08:04
Neo8750recon0: kill and then reload?08:04
don_jrneo8750 It recognizes my card, how do I tell what driver it is currently trying to use so I can blacklist it?08:04
wladstonhey again guys ... it worked after editing ftab ...  :)08:04
villereyequeue: I only have "language support" there08:05
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scificant seem to navigate to "Documents and Settings" folder on my windows drive in the console, but i can in thunar file manager08:05
eyequeueviller, that's the one08:05
wladstonnow the problem is : nautilus doesn't natively support already written-cd-rws ??08:05
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scifio i remember its the gaps isnt it08:05
Neo8750ndiswrapper -l  ?08:05
ladydoorcl2imson: i don't mean this in a rude way, but you might consider prescribing a more "beginner-friendly" text-editor to beginners :-)...either of the religious-war editors is a little to powerful/not immediately obvious, i think08:05
Neo8750[with out the ?08:05
eyequeueviller, have you installed whatever language packs you want via synaptic yet?08:05
RoeltHey, I've got a question/problem with initramfs: I've got two raid-1 arrays combined to raid-0 array.. but it fails to start the raid-0 array...08:05
wladstoni've looked alwhere to clear a CD-RW, and found nothing08:05
villereyequeue: yes I hav08:06
villere08:06
riddleboxdoes anyone else have problems with php + apache and phpmyadmin, where when you try to access phpmyadmin it will ask you to download the file not display it?08:06
wladstonseems like it can only burn CD-RWs08:06
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don_jrneo8750 I'll try that, but ndiswrapper is not what is controling the device at the moment, I have to blacklist what ubuntu set it up as so ndiswrapper can take it over don't I?08:06
eyequeueviller, the menu command should be what you need then08:06
Roeltriddlebox, try restarting apache08:06
sethkgemeindeba, I put it in /usr/local/firefox.  it is conventional to put compiled or non-package manager stuff in /usr/local.  the subdirectory of /usr/local is arbitrary, so why not use firefox for firefox?08:06
adri_hi everybody08:06
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ladydoorscifi: also, on the console you can use "tab" to get filename completions if you don't want to use double-quotes or type the backslashes before spaces (it makes everything a *lot* faster)08:06
villereyequeue: menu command?08:06
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cvthow do i stop gxine from trying to play embedded videos since it can't play any of them?08:06
Neo8750don_jr: i don't know then08:06
eyequeueviller, system > administration > language08:06
tcaTrying to get direct rendering to work. I get two lines in var/log/messages that I think is related to this: "[drm]  Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102" and "**** SET: Misaligned resource pointer: ceb3cf02 Type 07 Len 0".08:06
wladstonnone of you managed to erase a cd-rw using only nautilus too ?08:06
scifiladydoor: thnx for reminding me, i knew there was a quicker way :)08:06
rssHi! I had asked a query here earlier, I am updating about it08:06
ladydoorscifi: np!08:07
Ecnassianerlink_36p, have you tried apt-get remove lg3d-core ?08:07
villereyequeue: I tick the language and then what?08:07
adri_i have a trouble, i instaled the ati drivers and the system runs ok, but when linux boots, the initial screen doesn't appears, and the monitor is turned off. anyway, i can insert the user and the password so the session starts08:07
rssI've installed 64bit Dapper Drake on AMD Sempron 2300+ 64bit machine...08:07
villerhow can I make GNOME use that language?08:07
wladstonokay okay ... in this case I'm going to report a bug at bugzilla ...08:08
marcel__!avi08:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:08
gemeindebasethk, well... whatever did you expect but me concluding that i do not have the permissions to do that copying.08:08
ladydoordon_jr: is what you're trying to blacklist the native bcm43xx driver?08:08
rssafter logging through GDM, gnome was not appearing(or so I assumed)08:08
eyequeueviller, "okay" and log out08:08
sethkgemeindeba, use sudo08:08
marcel__i can get ubuntu to play .avi whit VLC but then i have no sound does someone know what might be the problem?08:08
sethkgemeindeba, or copy as root08:08
gemeindebasethk, i feared so08:08
don_jrladydoor it may be, I"m not sure what it's trying to use, is there a way I can find out?08:08
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jazzrockerladydoor, even n00bs should become familiar with vi/vim because they're nearly always installed08:08
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DaveyJi currently have KDE and gnome installed.. how do i do a full switch to kubuntu by default?08:08
ladydoordon_jr: do you know what driver your ndiswrapper is using?08:08
rssonly a brown(regular background) colored background with a active cursor was appearing08:08
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gemeindebai'll copy as root, was that sudo nautilus root ?08:09
don_jrladydoor the one I copied off of the CD08:09
rssthe actual problem is that DMA is not set on08:09
ladydoorjazzrocker: i'll agree, but add that emacs should be a learning option, and also add that they should be learned at their leisure and not as a requisite for getting help :-)08:09
eyequeuegemeindeba, please don't run apps unnecessarily as root, sudo cp foo bar08:09
link_36pEcnassianer - ive tried exactly that spits out the same error08:09
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rssI tried setting DMA on ... but got an error message that it's "not permitted"08:09
ladydoordon_jr: right, ok, do ndiswrapper -l and what does it say the driver's called?08:09
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gemeindebaeyequeue, which is a very wise advice i will follow08:10
adri_i have a trouble, i instaled the ati drivers and the system runs ok, but when linux boots, the initial screen doesn't appears, and the monitor is turned off. anyway, i can insert the user and the password so the session starts. can anybody help me?08:10
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eyequeuegemeindeba, nautilus has too many places it may not have been checked for root-safe-ness :)08:10
Ecnassianerlink_36p, try dpkg deinstall ld3d-core (or whatever that package was called)08:10
jazzrockerladydoor, nah... emacs isn't worth the bloat... and besides, emacs is nearly always not installed... wheras vi/vim nearly always is08:10
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don_jrladydoor it tells me the drivers I just put into ndiswrapper.  But if I restart, will it then revert back to the original? will I have to modprobe it every time I start up?08:10
eyequeue!info nano08:10
ubotunano: free Pico clone with some new features. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.10-1 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 1416 kB08:11
fuocodoes anyone know how to share a printer from ubuntu ?08:11
gemeindebaeyequeue, i am already in my terminal to figure out how to copy whole subdirectories at once08:11
scifii cant get out of this "cat" command, cant get it to work either08:11
jazzrockerladydoor, if we're talking about straight recommendation of text editors for someone who says "what's a good text editor" yeah sure, let them choose between emacs/vim/scite whatever08:11
riddleboxRoelt, I have done that, but it doesnt work, this happens on all dapper systems I install08:11
eyequeuejazzrocker, ^^ nano will be on any ubuntu box :)08:11
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jazzrockereyequeue, but not necessarily on any of the other flavors of *nix08:11
eyequeuegemeindeba, sudo cp /some/subdir/ /some/where/else/ :)08:11
EcnassianerI have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?08:12
eyequeuejazzrocker, no, but this is #ubuntu and we don't support those others :)08:12
scifieyequeue: how do i quit out of "cat" command. q doesnt work08:12
abhinayi have a problem with font, eventhough i change my application font, it doens't change , why ?08:12
riddleboxscifi, ctrl + c08:12
ladydoordon_jr: i'm asking you what it says the driver is called so we can know what to blacklist08:12
gemeindebaeyequeue, i am trying to figure out if that copies subdirectories as well. i have to get used to using man <command>08:12
eyequeuescifi, you probably want a ^D to signify end of input there08:12
scifiriddlebox: ty08:12
eyequeuescifi, control plus d08:12
ladydoorjazzrocker: good point...however, for beginners i tend to recommend nano as it is beginner-friendly and installed in ubuntu08:12
jazzrockervi/vim is standard across nearly all *nix's ... and eyequeue the point is not the specific ubuntu support it's the learning of linuxes in general ... if at all possible good habits should be taught that span all distros08:12
don_jrladydoor when I do ndiswrapper right now, it tells me the driver that I just installed with it.08:13
jazzrockeryeh anyway08:13
finalbetaAnyone know hddtemp? How do I add a drive model? It's not known but it is supported, I need it inside the supported list, so it will show up standard.08:13
BHSPitLappyRight when a "make" operation finished for me just now, all keyboard input stopped in my gnome session. I can't type into any program! Typing works on my VT's, so it's not hardware failure.08:13
ladydoordon_jr: yes, what is it called?08:13
ladydoordon_jr: please08:13
BHSPitLappyIs there any service I could restart to get the keyboard up again?08:13
eyequeuejazzrocker, i disagree, there are many *nix things that are inappropriate in ubuntu, such as su and root08:13
don_jrladydoor ndiswrapper -l shows me the name of the file I just did ndiswrapper -i <file>  it says rt2500usb08:13
fuocois it possible to share a printer from ubuntu ?08:13
ladydoordon_jr: i can't answer your question until you answer mind.08:13
scifieyequeue: the list of text files are comedy1.txt throught to comedy 60.txt. so i just typed "cat comedy1 - comedy60.txt". obviously thats wrong.pls advise08:13
VegetaI want to "mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom" but it says only root can do that, how can I login as root :S?08:13
fuocoi don't see where i choose that option08:13
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ladydoordon_jr: ah, ok. and you were having a problem with a native driver for that running at startup?08:14
xipietoteccwillu: have you tried fooling around with the access module?08:14
BHSPitLappyscifi, cat comedy*.txt ?08:14
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jazzrockereyequeue, no you don't disagree, because you didn't read what i said carefully... "if at all possible" <- covers your case scenario08:14
EcnassianerBHSPitLappy, Perhaps restarting X08:14
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jazzrockereyequeue, it's an idiom, it's meant to be taken loosely08:14
BHSPitLappyEcnassianer, I don't think I should have to go that far.08:14
eyequeuescifi, hmm, i don't know if thie will give you the ordering you like, but "cat comedy* > newcomedy.txt"  and then "less newcomedy.txt" to read it and check08:14
ladydoorjazzrocker: it's not commonly considered polite to tell people what they do and don't agree with...08:14
don_jrladydoor possibly yes. It's still not working after having unstalled the drivers via ndiswrapper, and I've modprobed it to start it up.08:14
EcnassianerBHSPitLappy, Probably true08:15
link_36pEcnassianer - http://pastebin.ca/16527508:15
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spielmannhey there =) I have a KWorld DVB-T 310U USB Tv-tuner. I have been googling somewhat and haven't found anything clear. Could anyone show me the way to how to get this tv-tuner to work in Ubuntu? Thank you very much08:15
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ladydoordon_jr: oh! ok, try this. sudo ifdown eth0 <enter> sudo ifup wlan0 <enter> (in a terminal)08:15
jazzrockerladydoor, friendly or helpful <- choose one (from smart-questions)08:15
VegetaHow can I acces the root account, when I want to write the command "mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom", and it says that only root can do that?08:15
BHSPitLappyscifi, or "cat comedy*.txt | less"08:15
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cwilluxipietotec: I looked at it;  didn't get the impression it could trigger a username request though08:15
cwilluxipietotec: I'll look at the source code though, it might do something08:16
jazzrockeri'll say it again08:16
jazzrocker"yeh, anyway" <- hint hint, lets drop it08:16
eyequeueVegeta, no, please read what the bot sends you08:16
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scifiBHSPitLappy/eyequeue: ok i did "cat comedy*.txt" which seems to have worked but its 13 pages in less, so i need to output to a new text file name and open in an editor i think08:16
eyequeue!rootsudo > Vegeta08:16
don_jrladydoor will try that, but should I use rausb0 since that's what it recognizes my wireless as instead of wlan0? or not?08:16
xipietotecYou might try it, it looks like it at least forces access to authorized usernames.08:16
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eyequeuescifi, "cat comedy* > newcomedy.txt"08:16
ladydoordon_jr: oh, ok. use that instead08:16
xipietotecso even if it doesn't "ask" for a username, only the authorized usernames will have access.08:17
xipietotecat least that's the impression I got08:17
scifieyequeue: yeh :)08:17
DaveyJi currently have KDE and gnome installed.. how do i do a full switch to kubuntu by default?08:17
Vegetaahhh ok, so that what sudo means thanks :D08:17
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beerfanwhat package do I need to install to get a /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build directory?08:17
ladydoorjazzrocker: if you would care to continue this conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic, i would be glad to continue it there; otherwise i'm done :-)08:17
Ecnassianerlink_36p, Have you tried apt-get -f   (or maybe it was apt-get -f install, I forget)08:17
gemeindebai am too stupid for this08:17
beerfanI'm trying to build madwifi-ng and it's complaining that the build directory is missing08:18
cwilluxipietotec: it looks like what I need is a module that calls pam_set_item(PAM_USER, (const void *)user) with a null user08:18
cwilluanything else won't actually change the user that's being auth'd against08:18
eyequeuegemeindeba, no, it's just new to you08:18
Ecnassianerlink_36p, Package is in a very bad inconsistent state <--- I really don't like the words "very bad" :)08:18
cwilluthe ftp module does something similar, so I know what to look for in a module now at least :)08:18
ladydoorgemeindeba: "if you believe in your faults, then they are indeed yours"08:18
EcnassianerI've never heard apt-get speak that way08:18
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xipietotecdon_jr: This is what I have to do to bring up my wireless: Sudo ifconfig wlan0, sudo ifup eth1 (It'll immediately change wlan0 to eth1 in my case)08:19
makihello08:19
gemeindebaeyequeue, ladydoor as i said before you gotta fall down before you can stand up. i am falling down. i copied the files succesfully. stupid me i started the old version again. ok, i started the new version again from /usr/local/firefox, but it only starts the old version08:19
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makihad somebedy used xconfig for compile kernel?08:19
Eclypseladydoor, Linux shouldn't be able to open .dmg's by default, right?08:19
jazzrockermaki, i usually use make menuconfig, why08:20
ladydoorgemeindeba: what was your goal? did you just install a new firefox?08:20
fuocowhen i use the cups web interface and it asks for login what do i need to put ?08:20
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eyequeuegemeindeba, okay, let me try an explicit command for you ... where exactly is the new version you would like to run?08:20
ladydoorEclypse: i honestly don't know. i don't even know what one is :-/08:20
jazzrockermaki, i'm pretty sure you need Tk installed to get xconfig to work08:20
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gemeindebaeyequeue, the new version, is, in /usr/local/firefox/<all ff files and folders>08:20
scifieyequeue: hmmm i have upto pages 4 in the text output, but theres another 10 pages that arent there. theres a line at the bottom showing [next]  [5]  [6]  [7]  and so on...08:20
gemeindebaladydoor, you call it installing, i just downloaded and unpacked!08:21
markuzhi08:21
makii run it but i dont really know wheter [*]  is module or installed on kernel or [v]  is module08:21
markuza nice tutorial about XGL ?08:21
eyequeuegemeindeba, try running it as "/usr/local/firefox/firefox" from a terminal08:21
jazzrockermaki, * should mean "compiled in"08:21
ladydoorgemeindeba: sweet. ok, you might need to divert ubuntu's firefox to make it easier, and then you can add a symlink in /usr/local/bin08:21
makiyes08:21
eyequeue!xgl > markuz08:21
beerfanDoes dapper support madwifi-ng? I notice there are directories for madwifi and madwifi-ng in /lib/modules/2.6.15-68608:21
ladydoorgemeindeba: if you're interested i could explain that08:21
EcnassianerI have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?08:21
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markuzeyequeue, thanks!!08:22
eyequeuegemeindeba, if that works, then yes, you have it working, and ladydoor's symlink will be perfect for you from here on :)08:22
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eyequeuemarkuz, no prob08:22
scifidoes emacs have a gui ?08:23
cwillulol@scifi08:23
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jazzrockerscifi, yes, it's called xemacs08:23
eyequeuewhat doesn't emacs have? ;-)08:23
jazzrockerscifi, but vim is better than emacs... and gvim > xemacs08:23
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ladydoorscifi: actually, the default emacs install comes with a gtk version08:23
ladydoor!best08:24
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.08:24
eyequeuenosse, xemacs is actually a fork off the emacs project08:24
jazzrockerladydoor, i never said best :)08:24
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cwilluscifi, I laugh at you only because the 'gui' acts exactly like the terminal mode;  it probably won't make it any easier to learn08:24
gemeindebaeyequeue, ladydoor i just had the proof that i am too stupid for it. and that i am willing to work on it. i had an old firefox windows still open, very well hidden. so now i closed that one and - hurray .06 is working again. now i am going to change that lovely standard firefox icon in my panel and afterwards i want to know what a symlink is!08:24
jazzrockerscifi, regular emacs actually will launch an X based version if you run it from inside X08:24
ladydoorscifi: so yes, if you don't start it only with emacs -nw then it will launch an X version08:24
jazzrockercwillu++08:24
beerfanWhat information is needed so that someone will answer my madwifi upgrade questions?08:24
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cwilludoh08:25
DAaaMan64I am trying to follow this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 for a dual screen setup and I am having no luck.  It maybe because neither of my device sections have a BusID can someone tell me how correctly find a busID for my nvidia card?08:25
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eyequeuegemeindeba, think of it as a pointer, it stands for "symbolic link" (as opposed to "hard link") and is made with ln -s08:25
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arvind_hi08:25
cwilluxipietotec: there's a small chance that pam_permit does what I want, strangley enough :)08:25
ladydooreyequeue: what exactly is a hard link anyway?08:25
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scifihmmm, ok i think my question should be, whats a good gui-based text editor to use. basically im looking for something like textpad but for linux.08:25
arvind_\can i have the url to ubuntu repository sites please08:25
gemeindebaladydoor, eyequeue thanks for all your patience. you did it (with my generous help :) )08:25
ladydoorgemeindeba: sweeeet!08:25
Crippy-Boygedit?08:26
scifiim sorry but i just dont feel comfortable with command typing :P08:26
scifitoo much to remember08:26
ladydoorarvind_: are you trying to regenerate your sources.list?08:26
ladydoorscifi: haha...it gets better08:26
eyequeueladydoor, only works on the same physical partition, but has a tiny bit less "overhead" i guess you would say.  i always use symlinks, because there's no telling how someone partitioned things :)08:26
BiSk-8hello, how do i install "strings" for my ubuntu08:26
arvind_no ladydoor i need to download apache package as i scrwed up one of the file08:26
ladydooreyequeue: oh, ok. cool. yeah, i always use symlinks too.08:26
scifiCrippy_Boy: its too basic. i need something that has the features of vim/emacs but gui based08:26
gemeindebaladydoor, i used to be such a clean boy in w32. now i suppose i got the ff files twice. do i worry about them eating up place (as a question of principle) or is it better (in any case safer) to just let the older version be...?08:26
eyequeueladydoor, a hardlink increments the field just after the rwx in ls -l :)08:27
arvind_ladydoor: i donot wish to use apt-get on this so i wanted to download the pkg and get that missing file again08:27
Crippy-Boyscifi: What features does it have to have?08:27
anon32how's WINE's DirectX support?08:27
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Subhumananon32, not very well?08:27
ladydoorarvind_: oh, you want to reinstall? that shouldn't be too hard :-). sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename08:27
Crippy-Boyanon32: rubbish08:27
anon32darn08:27
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ladydooreyequeue: oh, ok08:27
jazzrockerDAaaMan64, lspci ?08:27
Subhumananon32, if you want good directX support you basically have to use cedega08:27
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anon32damn it...08:27
eyequeuearvind_, apt-get --download-only leaves it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if that's of help08:27
tizwonder3ddesktop = uber :)08:27
scifiCrippy_Boy: ability to insert multiple text files into one file, advanced search & replace etc08:27
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beerfanHow do I install the latest madwifi-ng drivers in Dapper?08:27
xipietoteccwillu: w00t!, if not you may be able to mess with the settings in the userdb module, making it to where it does not auto-detect the user's auth.08:27
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ladydoorgemeindeba: you should leave the old version08:27
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gemeindebaladydoor, will do08:28
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ladydoorgemeindeba: a lot of programs may depend on the ubuntu version08:28
arvind_ladydoor:  no no no reinstall ....... i want the pkg download site i wana retrieve one file08:28
jazzrockerscifi, gvim is gui based08:28
eyequeuearvind_, apt-get --download-only install foo, if you want that08:28
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anon32um, command to upgrade the distro please?08:28
gemeindebaladydoor, ok08:28
jazzrockerscifi, SciTE is the only other editor that's worth a damn aside from vim/emacs (as far as I've used)08:28
eyequeueanon32, suco apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:28
Crippy-Boydist-update?08:28
BonBonTheJondoes anyone know what package would have drivers for network cards08:28
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DAaaMan64jazzrocker: I see that "0000:01:00.0" but it doesn't see valid as compared to something like "PCI:01:00" what am I not understanding?08:28
jazzrockerscifi, it still doesn't come close to either because of lacking keybindings08:29
eyequeueanon32, sudo (not suco) apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:29
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jazzrockerDAaaMan64, i don't know from there, sorry08:29
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DAaaMan64seem* not see*08:29
ladydoorjazzrocker: would you please take the editor comparison to #ubuntu-offtopic or to private messages? it'll cut down on traffic here08:29
anon32eyequeue: twice? will upgrading require me to download the entire distro?08:29
Crippy-Boydist-upgrade* sorry08:29
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jazzrockerladydoor, uhhhh, maybe you should tell that to scifi08:29
ladydoorBonBonTheJon: it really depends on what network card.08:29
anon32hmm08:29
eyequeueanon32, no, i typed tyhe first time ..., here, just do this line...08:29
jazzrocker"<scifi> Crippy_Boy: its too basic. i need something that has the features of vim/emacs but gui based"08:29
eyequeueanon32, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:30
vishaharvind_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/08:30
arvind_thanks vishah :)08:30
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ladydoorjazzrocker: ok, i'm just saying that since you are the participant i'm already aware of. i figured you would inform the others. *shrug*08:30
eyequeueanon32, update is a "reset to current" and upgrade is the "do it" that you want08:30
mikeconceptsI just completed a new install of 6.06 on a P4 and want to find a link for setting up dual monitor geforce 5200 FX08:30
scifijazzrocker: thx will look into that 108:30
eyequeueanon32, and i meant i typOed the first time, heh08:30
don_ladydoor I'm on my wireless, now I need to figure out how to make it auto set up so I don't have to ifup rausb0 and modprobe ndiswrapper every time I restart the computer.08:30
anon32eyequeue: I see, will upgrading require me to download the entire 700M install image?08:31
jazzrockerscifi, and at last resort... kate08:31
cwilluxipietotec: ./configure & make;  lets see what this does :)08:31
sinisterrhow can i tell what flavor of ubuntu im running?08:31
eyequeueanon32, no, that combo command line i gave you will only fetch those packages which have changed08:31
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Crippy-BoyLick it.08:31
sinisterrlol08:31
TheSheep[17209168.288000]  NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded!  <--- how to prevent agpgart loading?08:31
ladydoordon_: ok, first i would use sudo ndiswrapper -m08:31
eyequeue!version > sinisterr08:32
cwillusinisterr: weird question to answer kinda, but you can check in synaptic which of kubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-desktop/etc are installed08:32
gemeindebamikeconcepts, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174278 - the ubuntuforums are a GREAT place to find common answers08:32
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beerfaneyequeue, do you know which package is needed to compile drivers?08:32
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ladydoordon_: and what happened to do that for me was to one, single time take down your wireless in the network GUI and then bring it back up again and hit "ok"08:32
mikeconceptsgemeindeba: Thanks08:32
gemeindebamikeconcepts, you have installed the drivers, have you08:32
xipietoteccwillu: Aren't the window themes different as well?08:32
anon32eyequeue: and will that include the kernel if it's changed?08:32
gemeindebathe nvidia drivers, that is not covered there i think08:32
mikeconceptsgemeindeba: oh, no I have not08:32
tizwonderanyone know how to get tru ANSI fonts working with bitchx?08:33
eyequeuebeerfan, start with sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:33
don_ladydoor it added wlan0 to an alias. not rausb0.  I may try going into the network intervaces config gui, but every time I've tried to mess with rausb0 interface it's locked up the computer.08:33
eyequeueanon32, if the current kernel package you have installed changed, yes08:33
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gemeindebamikeconcepts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507408:33
gemeindebamikeconcepts, not above site please08:33
eyequeueanon32, if you have a 386 kernel, it won't fetch a 686 kernel08:33
DAaaMan64In someones xorg.conf how is it correctly written as, "BusID" or "BusId"?? I don't have that in my device section.08:33
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Xardashi08:34
ladydoordon_: ah. well, in that case i don't know08:34
Xardasdoes anyone use pypanel?08:34
anon32eyequeue: and how would you change from a 386 to a 686 kernel?08:34
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jazzrockerXardas, i used to why08:34
mikeconceptsgemeindeba: thanks again, I will need to install nvidia drivers before attempting anythig else08:34
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LinuxHelpDoes anybody know of an ftp client that can do recursive file searching?08:34
eyequeueanon32, if you do happen to WANT a 686 kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-image-68608:34
Xardasjazzrocker: could you help me?08:34
Xardasi try to configure it08:34
jazzrocker!ask08:34
gemeindebamikeconcepts, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 to install nvidia drivers in 6.0608:34
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:34
flhello08:34
ladydoorhi!08:34
anon32eyequeue: I see, what's the advantage of a 686 kernel over a 386?08:34
bam_hi...I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. I am trying to find anyone that could help me with me damned graphics card from intel. It will not, in anyway, show all the possible resolutions. Anyone?08:34
eyequeueanon32, a bit more optimized (faster) for newer cpus08:35
mikeconceptsgemeindeba: OK, 2nd link understood08:35
ladydoor!language08:35
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:35
jazzrockerbam_, lemme guess... i810 chipset ...08:35
Xardaseverytime when i change the background color in the script to "000000" it isn't really white.. then it's something like green, jazzrocker08:35
bam_ofcourse!08:35
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BonBonTheJonis there an ubuntu server channel08:35
anon32eyequeue: and what exactly is a "new cpu"?08:35
gemeindebabam_ what card do you have? what chip?08:35
jazzrockerXardas, ummmm... yeah that's because 000000 is black and ffffff is white08:35
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eyequeueanon32, what cpu do you have?  that would be for a p4 for example08:35
bam_I have a intel 855GM08:35
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jazzrockerXardas, and if it's transparent it'll color the panel to match the background08:36
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bam_I have done the whole "915resolution" thing to death!08:36
anon32eyequeue: and I happen to have a 64-bit P408:36
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eyequeueanon32, if you had an amd, you would use something else08:36
jazzrockerbam_, yeah part of the i810 chipset series08:36
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xipietotecjazz: Heh, that's interesting too. I have that chipset and my resolution only goes up to 1024x76808:36
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gemeindebamikeconcepts, third link to install drivers, first link to install dualmonitor support08:36
jazzrockerbam_, there are "known problems" with that chipset as actually admitted by intel08:36
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anon32so, 386 for me?08:36
eyequeueanon32, yes, 686 would be good for you08:36
jazzrocker!resolution08:36
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:36
anon32ok, 686 it is08:36
Xardasjazzrocker: hmmm08:36
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Xardasi want to have a white, transparent panel08:36
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nownotim getting a error on boot, /bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off08:37
jazzrockerXardas, then use ffffff08:37
Xardasi do so08:37
Xardasit's still something green08:37
don_jrladydoor Okay, it started up from reboot, but it did lock up when I deactivated/reactivated....either way, it starts at reboot now, thank you very much!08:37
Jack_SparrowThere is not too much difference in speed between 386 and 686 kernels08:37
nownotit wont even boot08:37
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mikeconceptsgemeindeba: Got it, understood08:37
gemeindebabam_, did you try http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/installing-intel-815852855-graphics-controller-drivers-on-ubuntu-debian/ ? (i am really great on google, am i not)08:37
ladydoordon_jr: np! glad to help!08:37
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Jack_SparrowYou can have both available at the grub prompt08:37
anon32who the heck is "Jack Sparrow"?08:37
scifijazzrocker: scite looks good. but do u know if its possible to insert several text files into one ?08:37
jazzrockerXardas, transparent == adopts the color of the background. if your background is green your pypanel will be slightly greenish white08:37
xipietotecjazzrocker so it's prettymuch impossible to get a higher resolution?08:37
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anon32everyone laughs at me when I ask that...08:37
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jazzrocker!resolution > xipietotec08:38
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jazzrockerxipietotec, i don't know08:38
superkirbyartistHow to update from breezy to draper help please.08:38
froggerI'm setting up an ubuntu server for file backup. I'm creating a RAID1 array from 2 hard disks. Should I set both of these as active partitions, or one as active and one as spare? My primary concern is data preservation, rather than performance.08:38
Neo8750jack sparrow is a pirate08:38
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eyequeue!upgrade > superkirbyartist08:38
Farchordhey guys, I have a question.... I have a 64-bit processor. But I do know that support for 64-bit systems are still low. I saw ubuntu had an x64 version, but how's the driver support in x64 linux?08:38
cwilluxipietotec: well, I've got a new pam_user.so .  I now wonder whether it's actually a pam module :)08:38
bam_gemeindeba, I have tried that.no luck08:38
bam_:(08:38
marcel__hello when i try to play a .avi i have no sound.. i installed all the gstreamer 0.10 does someone know what might be the problem ( i do have sound ;))08:38
nownotok has anyone ever seen this error /bin/sh: cant access tty job control turned off, or know how to fix this, my comp wont boot08:38
maxBUTTONh3y p33ps08:38
Jack_Sparrowxipietotec: what video driver does your xorg say you are using?08:38
jazzrockerxipietotec, i just know i've had that chipset on numerous Brand Name(TM) machines and it sucks <- my problems were different08:38
Xardashmmm.. jazzrocker. my desktop isn't really green.. it's more a black/brown thing08:39
Neo8750marcel__: do you have sound otherwise??08:39
marcel__Neo8750: yes08:39
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anon32farchord: only as good as whatever the manufacturer of your computer's components are willing to provide08:39
eyequeueFarchord, most that run 64 bit machines will advise you to run the 32 bit ubuntu i guess, for that reason08:39
maxBUTTONanyone kn0w h0w i c4n g3t 4 pr0n b4ash m3nu?08:39
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gemeindebaFarchord, i have a 64bit processor and i checked around, i found out that there are some drivers and applications missing for 64bit, and it will not change your linux experience if you install the 32bit version08:39
ladydoor!133708:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 1337 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
Neo8750is the video useing mp3 codecs or something of the sort??08:39
jazzrockerXardas, i don't know man... you probably *think* it's black/brown but really it's a slight shade of green08:39
ladydoor!leet08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about leet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
bam_it should really be straight forward, but it just doesnt seem to want to. could you guys take a look at my xorg.conf and tell me if I have thing wrong?08:39
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sinisterreyequeue: thanks08:39
gemeindebaFarchord, i am using 32bit and i have no problems, seems the way to go...08:39
FarchordAiite, coo, then ill download the x86 version08:39
jazzrockerXardas, change your bg and see if pypanel changes it's "green-ness"08:39
xipietotecgood question...hold on08:39
nownottok has anyone ever seen this error /bin/sh: cant access tty job control turned off, or know how to fix this, my comp wont boot08:39
Farchordthanks guys :)08:39
LinuxHelp!3133708:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 31337 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
ladydoormaxBUTTON: please don't use 1337. it's annoying08:39
Xardasok08:39
eyequeueFarchord, "some day" the 64 bot version will be production-ready, might be a way to phrase it08:39
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maxBUTTONk anyone know how to get the dialog command working in bash08:40
gemeindebabam_, what exactly is your problem?08:40
DeeahI installed stellarium, and it went to Applications/Education, it's pretty great. Are there any other adult education related programs in Ubuntu like this?08:40
jazzrockermaxBUTTON, install dialog?08:40
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scifijazzrocker: any ideas m8 ?08:40
eyequeuesinisterr, np08:40
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jazzrockerscifi, what now?08:40
Farchordeyequeue: Yeah I'm having an odd problem in Windows with my machine.... trying linux will also help me seeing if it's the card or not....08:40
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jazzrockerscifi, i use vim08:40
scifijazzrocker: scite looks good. but do u know if its possible to insert several text files into one ?08:40
jazzrockerscifi, ask in #scite08:40
scifiok sorry08:40
xipietotec82852/855GM08:40
FarchordSometimes, after playing games for a short while, my computer starts to studder really bad......08:40
Farchordand I'm about sick of this problem08:40
jazzrockerscifi, i could think of many ways to do that with many other tools than SciTE so i don't really care08:40
jazzrockerscifi, what's wrong with copy/paste ?08:41
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bam_my problem is that X doesnt give me the option of changing my resolution over the 1024x76808:41
marcel__i got a movie whit the audio codec mp3 installed all the gstreamers but still no audio08:41
Jack_SparrowFarchord: Overheating?08:41
orcdestroyerhello... I have some musics in my CD and some files are .m4a how can I listen they using the xmms player?08:41
bam_thats is my problem, in short.08:41
orcdestroyerany ideas?08:41
scifijazzrockers: because its 120 seperate text files08:41
FarchordJack_Sparrow: Nope checked that. The CPU doesn't go over 50C.08:41
anon32orcdestroyer: are they drmed?08:41
Jack_SparrowFarchord: Just a thought08:41
eyequeue!restrictedformats > orcdestroyer08:42
Ecnassianermarcel__, How did you install mp3 support?08:42
gemeindebabam_, just so that we are clear about that: the 855 uses shared memory (from your ram)? have you allocated a specific amount of videoram in your bios?08:42
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maxBUTTONthere is no dialog in the repositories08:42
eyequeue!restrictedformats > Ecnassianer08:42
marcel__Ecnassianer: whit synacptic08:42
alex222anyone know why this happens ~ http://pastebin.ca/16529908:42
xipietotecJack_sparrow It says I'm using 82852/855GM08:42
Farchordmmm..... Do I download the Desktop version or Alternate.... I tried the Desktop with my old PC, but I was stuck in 640x480.... couldn't click the install buttons <.<08:42
FarchordThis comp has an nvidia 7600gt card08:42
finalbetaNo package 'glib-2.0' found << Can't find it using apt-cache search, can somone tell me what I need to install?08:42
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eyequeueFarchord, alternate doesn't have the bug08:43
Farchordokay ty08:43
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Ecnassianermarcel__, I used EasyUbuntu and it works fine for me. I'm not sure what will happen now that you've installed it with synaptic, but... well, yeah, might be god to know.08:43
bam_I dont really know that....should I?08:43
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mike___hey, can i have soem help with a terminal command?08:43
bam_and how much should I allocate?08:43
marcel__Ecnassianer: hm weird..08:43
eyequeueFarchord, 6.06.1 should have fixed the bug too08:43
xipietotecI know specifically I have the Intel Extreme Graphics II chipset08:43
Farchordo ok08:43
bam_(and why isent any of this in any of the guide!!!???)08:43
KrakensDenis security.ubuntu.com down or is it just me?08:43
eyequeue!easyubuntu > marcel__08:43
Paddy_EIRE<alex222> which guide did you use when you installed xgl/compiz ?08:43
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gemeindebabam_, what is the resolution you are trying to achieve? what is the mobo brand, anyway?08:44
eyequeuemarcel__, note the "at your own risk"08:44
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bam_mobo?08:44
finalbetaNo package 'glib-2.0' found << Can't find it using apt-cache search, can somone tell me what I need to install?08:44
KrakensDengemeindeba, intel, almost certainly08:44
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bam_1280x102408:44
bam_intel,yes08:44
KrakensDengemeindeba, I don't think anyone else uses their onboard cards08:44
alex222Paddy_EIRE, http://justpretending.net/wp/2006/08/14/new-and-improved-enable-xglcompiz-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake/08:44
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mike___need help with the command rmdir08:44
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eyequeuemike___, what about it?08:44
gemeindebabam_, KrakensDen is probably right. asus used them in the past, though08:44
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maxBUTTONsudo rm [file] 08:44
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eyequeuermdir (1)            - remove empty directories08:45
eyequeuermdir (1posix)       - remove directories08:45
eyequeuermdir (3posix)       - remove a directory08:45
eyequeuermdir (2)            - delete a directory08:45
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maxBUTTONsudo rm -rf *08:45
bam_I am trying to get a resolution of 1280x102408:45
eyequeueoy!08:45
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Farchordhahaha.... Downloading http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/iso/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso @ 1200k/s :D08:45
gemeindebabam_, in your xorg.conf, do you have any resolutions higher then 1024 in there ?08:45
KrakensDenbam_, look into 915resolution08:45
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kinjohey any1 kon hw i can install cedega???08:45
bam_ofcourse.08:45
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mike___eyequeue:  when i use the command rmdir it says like "directory not empty"08:45
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KrakensDenbam_, there are some problems with bios settings and intel cards08:46
jazzrockerkinjo, yes we do08:46
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arvind_how to force reinstall a pkg08:46
KrakensDenbam_, so you may need that program to get whatever resolution you want08:46
kinjocould u tell me hw....08:46
KrakensDenbam_, it's in the repositories08:46
eyequeuemike___, right, it's only for empty directories---<eyequeue> rmdir (1)            - remove empty directories08:46
arvind_can i know the comm,and of the same please08:46
Paddy_EIRE<alex222> Im not sure how to fix your prob but i used --> http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 and it worked :) ...... you also may want to ask on #ubuntu-xgl08:46
yuggeHey guys. My DHCP settings are resetting when I restart my computer. I've been using Kcontrol.08:46
Jack_Sparrowxipietotec: I dont know that you will do any better with that card08:46
KrakensDenbam_, so 'sudo apt-get install 915resolution' should work08:46
Ecnassianerkinjo, Have you tried apt-get install cedega?08:46
jazzrockerkinjo, nope... but the manual for installing cedega which is probably located at http://transgaming.com/ will tell you08:46
BHSPitLappykinjo, anyone know how you can type without mashing on the keyboard08:46
yuggeWhere would I change it otherwise?08:46
mike___eyequeue:  whats teh difference between removeing and deleting a directory08:46
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bam_KrankensDen,I have and I have installed it and it is working. But I havent really looked at the the videoram bios as gemeindeba said.08:46
jazzrockerEcnassianer, uhhh, cedega costs $$$ so i doubt it's in the repos08:46
eyequeuemike___, you either empty the files out first (safest) or use -r with rm08:46
BonBonTheJonhow do I install drivers for a network card that is recognized by lspci08:46
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eyequeuemike___, none08:47
Ecnassianerjazzrocker, I did not know that. :)08:47
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jazzrockerEcnassianer, do you even know what cedega is?08:47
EcnassianerMy knowledge of the subject is depleted. :)08:47
Jack_SparrowBonBonTheJon: What network car/chipset08:47
mike___eyequeue:  so what woudl the command be if i wanted to get rid of a directory with files in it? -rmdire?08:47
arvind_i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that08:47
[Wiebel] !edgy08:47
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule08:47
mike___without the e08:47
eyequeuemike___, rm -r /the/dir/you/want/gone/08:47
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kinjower can i learn hw to use apt-get08:47
wubrgamer hey guys, is there any way that i can have a bash script run as root during boot with no user interaction ?08:47
KrakensDenbam_, ok. Well, the other issue is that ubuntu doesn't come with any good gui xorg.conf modifiers08:47
bam_I will try to look at my motherboard bios and see what I can do, but gemeindeba, do you have any suggestion onto how much I should allocat?08:47
jazzrockerEcnassianer, it's usually better if the ignorant do not lead the blind08:47
eyequeuekinjo, "man apt-get"08:47
mike___eyequeue:  ok thnaks08:47
KrakensDenbam_, try the max08:47
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bam_ok08:48
KrakensDenbam_, which should just be ~4 megs08:48
arvind_i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that08:48
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bam_I will be back shortly08:48
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eyequeuemike___, or else, of course, rm the files from it, then rmdir it :)08:48
jazzrockerkinjo, cedega, as i said, is not in the repos (at least i doubt it)08:48
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BonBonTheJonjack: pcnet3208:48
jazzrocker!cedega08:48
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega08:48
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jazzrocker!cedega > kinjo08:48
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hchi again08:48
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Ecnassianerjazzrocker, Nobody was answering his question, don't curse me for offering a suggestion.08:48
maxBUTTONM4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?08:48
arvind_nobody to help me out :(08:48
Paddy_EIREIs Gnome 2.16 installable in Dapper08:48
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anon32!cedega08:48
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega08:48
gemeindebabam_, that depends on the maximum resolution you are trying to achieve, as well as the colordepth. i think if you would allocate a minimum of 64 mbyte you would be on the safe side. personally i wouldn't use less in any case. also depends on how much memory you have available08:49
jazzrockerEcnassianer, actually... i was answering his question08:49
hc!wpa08:49
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:49
anon32cedega isn't free in either sense of the word is it/08:49
yuggeCan anyone help me?`Where would I change the DHCP settings?08:49
maxBUTTONM4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?08:49
jazzrockerEcnassianer, it's probably better for you to not give an answer than give a *wrong* answer08:49
Ecnassianerjazzrocker, Sorry, I didn't see it.08:49
marcel__eyequeue: thanks installing now08:49
arvind_yugge check the networking in system administration08:49
EcnassianerI didn'08:49
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EcnassianerI didn't give an answer, I asked a question.08:49
eyequeuemarcel__, np08:49
EcnassianerLets just forget about it.08:49
arvind_i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that08:50
maxBUTTONM4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?08:50
hc!network-manager08:50
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager08:50
arvind_i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that... what would be apt-get command for that08:50
eyequeuemaxBUTTON, please stop08:50
maxBUTTONHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M SOOOOO 133708:50
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anon32arvind_ apt-get install apache?08:50
yuggearvind_: It keeps reseting08:50
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anon32someone kickban maxbutton08:50
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orcdestroyerhow can I convert some m4a file to mp3 file ?08:50
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kinjojazzroker:wat does respo mean i am new to linux this is my first disrto ....08:51
BonBonTheJonwhere can I find drivers for a pcnet32 card08:51
arvind_anon32: it wont install i want to force reinstall08:51
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maxBUTTONNOOBZ NOOBZ I'M STILLL HERE08:51
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hchttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager08:51
TENStill wondering why Xubuntu starts with resolutions not even present in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... I found this: http://slax.linux-live.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4366#entry23726 Commenting out dcc in that file had no effect, but could there be a similar problem of xorg.conf being overridden in Xubuntu 6.06.1?08:51
hcwhy doesn't this work?08:51
xipietotecokay, what does 915resolution install itself as?08:51
Paddy_EIREcould someone get rid of this twat08:51
EcnassianerI have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?08:51
anon32!ops08:51
ubotuHelp! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!08:51
maxBUTTONbecause max button is 133708:51
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Paddy_EIRE<maxBUTTON> no because maxbutton needs to get a life08:52
wubrgamer hey guys, is there any way that i can have a bash script run every boot up ?08:52
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jazzrockerwubrgamer, yes there is08:52
Jack_SparrowBonBonTheJon: No idea, I dont see any info on that card...08:52
arvind_i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that... what would be apt-get command for that08:52
hci have a problem with WPA and a Airlink101 AWLL3026 Wireless USB-card08:52
xipietotecAnyone? what does 915resolution install itself as?08:52
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BonBonTheJonjack: previous kubuntu worked, now ubuntu server didn't set it up08:53
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wubrgamerhow ?08:53
Paddy_EIRE<Jack_Sparrow> Is gnome to be updated to new version on dapper or is this being left until edgy?08:53
SeveasPaddy_EIRE, it'll not be updated to .1608:54
Jack_SparrowPaddy_EIRE: No idea..08:54
Paddy_EIREoh08:54
hci use WPA, but i can only choose between 3 different WEP-crypts when i try to connect08:54
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wubrgamerhow do i have a script run every boot ?08:54
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AnAnthow can I print several pages on a single paper in linux ? is it possible ?08:54
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Kepswubrgamer: what command do you need to be executed?08:55
Paddy_EIRE<Seveas> why? is it just because edgy is nearing completion08:55
wubrgamera bunch08:55
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hc!init.d08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
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SeveasPaddy_EIRE, because dapper gets no new versions08:55
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Seveasit's stable08:55
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Kepswubrgamer: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1460380#post146038008:55
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beerfanhow can I reinstall the default dapper madwifi drivers?08:56
Paddy_EIRE<Seveas> oh yeah i suppose, i wouldnt want to loose my nice stable setup right now anyway08:56
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EcnassianerI have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?08:56
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Kepswubrgamer: replace sterling with whatever you want, and replace the 'xmodmap......' line with the command you need to be executed08:56
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wubrgamersterling ?08:56
Paddy_EIRE<Seveas> is there documentation anywhere on how things like that are deemed stable and ready for our use08:56
lakcajHi.  Is there a way to use the ubuntu install CD and install without booting to a live desktop?  Ie - I don't have enough ram, and want to install using an ncurses interface or something like that.08:56
ladydoorlakcaj: try the alternate install cd08:57
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ajopaulapart from evolution which other MUA can talk to MS exchange server??08:57
Crippy-Boylakcaj: use the alternate cd08:57
wubrgameri dont get it08:57
lakcajladydoor, Crippy-Boy: thanks08:57
hclakcaj: try the alternate install cd.08:57
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Kepswubrgamer: what dont you get?08:57
gemeindebalakcaj, you need to download the alternate installation cd08:57
Kepswait08:57
bam_nope. Apparently,my bios does not have a section where I could set the video ram allocation. I am sitting at the Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook E.08:57
wubrgamerit needs to be system wide08:57
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beerfanI tried installing madwifi-ng but it doesn't work. How can I reinstall the old madwifi drivers? what package?08:57
bam_so maybe that is my problem.08:57
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orcdestroyerhow can I cancel some download using terminal??08:57
tjb891can anyone tell me how to generate and see every webpage and file hosted on a website?(preferable with firefox)08:58
wubrgamerwould rc.local work ?08:58
Paddy_EIRE<Seveas> so Gnome 2.14.3 is the most stable version yet?08:58
hcorcdestroyer: CTRL + C08:58
someusernoobwubrgames: you can put that script in every sessions menu on every account08:58
xipietotecwtf? I can't log into root now?08:58
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Tamaleany idea if swing is included with the standard 1.4 jdk ubuntu package?   I just tried to compile the hello world swing java program and it couldn't seem to find the swing libraries08:58
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orcdestroyerhc exist some command line?08:58
hennuskaHello.08:58
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Ecnassianerorcdestroyer, What program are you using to download?08:59
Paddy_EIRE!stable08:59
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.08:59
bam_why is heaven so as to show me a glimps of what joy would be like, but then to snatch it away from me before the sweet odor of freedom would reach me!!!???08:59
VegetaWhen you install a "foreign" software on LInux (like Maple), won't there be an icon for that software, like the shortcut icons have for some softwares in Windows?08:59
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hcorcdestroyer: if you're using wget you can cancler it08:59
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hcorcdestroyer: alternative, kill it08:59
AnAnthow can I print several pages on a single paper in linux ?08:59
bam_anyone have any other suggestion?08:59
orcdestroyerEcnassianer k3b08:59
TamaleVegeta: Normally it at least makes a binary that's in your path08:59
realistAnAnt: man lp ?08:59
TamaleVegeta: so you can at least just type the name of the program from a console and start the app09:00
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AnAntrealist: did that, found nothing09:00
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cool_nickhow am i supposed to clear the terminal history?09:00
VegetaTamale: So there won't be such thing as an icon. Because when you install package softwares, there are icons.09:00
odlacool_nick: type clear?09:01
someusernoobcool_nick: history -c09:01
TamaleVegeta: There09:01
odlais sharpmusique still be developing?09:01
ladydoorVegeta: you could always make a launcher that would do the command wine /path/to/windoze/binary.exe09:01
TamaleVegeta: If there isn't icons, you can always make one09:01
odladeveloped09:01
xipietotecokay...I've logged into su before, but now it's not recognizing my password09:01
ladydoorVegeta: and give it whatever icon you wanted09:01
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ladydoorxipietotec: to su you need to use root's password, not yours09:01
TamaleVegeta:  If they don't include any icons at all it's probably just because they don't want to make different packages for different desktops09:01
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xipietotecschiesse. I think I forgot it09:01
cool_nicksomeusernoob: thanks09:02
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Ecnassianerorcdestroyer, k3b is CD burning software right? I don't understand how you're using that to download.09:02
Tamaleis there a java channel on freenode?  I tried to join #java but it didn't work09:02
someusernoobcool_nick: yw09:02
hci use WPA, but i can only choose between 3 different WEP-crypts when i try to connect to my network. any ideas?09:02
hcit's a Airlink101 AWLL3026 card09:02
VegetaTamale: Now I'm not sure whether we're talking about the same term (icon)... :S09:02
TamaleVegeta:  I meant shortcut, sorry.09:02
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thinklI just upgraded my laptop from dapper->edgy and now my screen isn't turning back on after sleep. Is there a command I can run that will bring the screen back (I'm logged in over ssh).09:02
kinjocan i install .deb in ubuntu??09:02
hcubuntu found the drivers when i installed, so it worked right out of the box09:02
odlakinjo: yup ... sudo dpkg -i package.deb09:03
xipietotecokay, ladydoor how could I change the root password without knowing what the hell it is09:03
Tamalexipietotec: sudo09:03
ladydoorxipietotec: sudo passwd root09:03
someusernoobkinjo: or double click them :D09:03
VegetaTamale: Well the shortcut doesn't matter, I can easly create that manually, I was only talking about creating an icon for the shortcut.09:03
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MunchkinguyI'm trying to hide some files in the root directory. I know you're supposed to create a file called ".hidden", but I'm not sure what to do from there.09:04
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Jack_Sparrowthinkl: #ubuntu+109:04
TamaleVegeta:  Ok, yah, I gotcha.  If you want to MAKE an icon, I'd just take a screenshot of the windows icon and turn that into a png09:04
xipietotecthankye :)09:04
Frederickhi folks is libmagick9 the lib for imagemagick on ubuntu?09:04
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amgadthinkl, try #xset dpms force on09:04
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ofnhow can i record a video of my desktop?09:04
MunchkinguyI tried putting the location of the folders I wanted to hide, but it didn't work.09:04
hci use WPA, but i can only choose between 3 different WEP-crypts when i try to connect to my network. any ideas?09:04
hcit's a Airlink101 AWLL3026 card09:04
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hcubuntu found the drivers when i installed, so it worked right out of the box09:04
kinjowhen i double click on  it i get "archive not supported"09:04
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EcnassianerMunchkinguy, I think you just need to put a . in front of the folder you want to hide09:05
hcany ideas?09:05
kinjowhen i double click on  .deb package it i get "archive not supported"09:05
EcnassianerMunchkinguy, Thats the way it works in my home directory09:05
amgadthinkl, first #export $DISPLAY = 'localhost:0.0'09:05
sethkMunchkinguy, you can create a _directory_ called .hidden, and move the files into it09:05
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sethkMunchkinguy, or, you can change the name of the files from whatever to .whatever09:05
thinklamgad: I was just figuring out I'd have to switch the DISPLAY :)09:05
sethkMunchkinguy, change the name of each file, that is.09:05
sethkMunchkinguy, by the way, they aren't in any meaningful sense hidden09:05
someusernoobkinjo: what version of ubuntu are u running?09:05
sethkMunchkinguy, that just don't show up with the default behavior of ls09:05
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overmindexit09:06
overmindejeje09:06
thinklamgad: Alas, doesn't seem to work.09:06
Munchkinguyso if I change "bin" to ".bin" it won't wreck the computer?09:06
sethkMunchkinguy, are you talking about the /bin directory?09:06
arvind_i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that... what would be apt-get command for that09:06
arvind_how can i reinstall a pkg without uninstalling it09:07
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Munchkinguyofn: see http://osvids.com/screencap/screencap.html09:07
kinjosupernoob: think its 6.06 any palce wer i can verify that??09:07
AndrewCaulHi.09:07
sethkarvind_, apt-get install --reinstall09:07
amgadthinkl, sorry, didnt use edgy yet09:07
arvind_ok will try that09:07
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Munchkinguysethk: yes09:07
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sethkMunchkinguy, no, you cannot change /bin to /.bin09:07
odlakinjo: system -> about Ubuntu09:08
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sethkMunchkinguy, well, you can, but all sorts of stuff will stop working.09:08
MunchkinguySo what do I do?09:08
sethkMunchkinguy, I don't think you really want to hide files, I think you want to adjust permissions09:08
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thinklamgad: no problem. I knew I was taking a risk with the upgrade :)09:08
ofn<Munchkinguy> thanks09:08
sethkMunchkinguy, specifically what are you trying to accomplish by rename /bin?09:08
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lukus001I cant seen to get my dvd to play in anything (64bit os)09:08
AnAnthow can I print several pages on a single paper in linux ?09:09
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amgadthinkl, why don't you turn the power saving off till you figure it out, its not a big deal09:09
Paddy_EIRE<AnAnt> use open office09:09
lukus001what do i need to play dvds09:09
Munchkinguysethk: I just don't want to see folders that I don't use (bin, opt, proc). If I ever use them, it will be in the terminal.09:09
sethkAnAnt, you can print two per page09:09
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Jack_Sparrow!dvd > lukus00109:09
sethkMunchkinguy, you can do this, then:    chmod o-r /bin09:09
amgadthinkl, and a very commong problem among laptops, even on stable versions09:09
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ladydoorMunchkinguy: just don't go to /?09:09
AnAntsethk: on the same side of the paper ?09:09
sethkMunchkinguy, and chmod o-x /bin09:09
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thinklamgad: Right -- I just thought if I could recover from the problem without a reboot it would make fixing it much easier since I could try configurations out more quickly.09:10
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Munchkinguyok, thank you09:10
sethkMunchkinguy, that removes the read and directory search permissions on /bin.09:10
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sethkMunchkinguy, assuming none of those users are a member of the group "root"09:10
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LeeJunFanApparently one needs to add sources for a dist in order to install packages from it? ie - apt-get install debootstrap/edgy ?09:10
lukus001jack_sparrow Ive already been to that page ubotu sent me but my player says i might not have permission?09:10
sethkMunchkinguy, which they won't be unless you were to change their groups intentionally09:10
thinklamgad: btw, this is something that has worked since hoary on this model, so hopefully I can find what's causing the regression and report the bug. Although this is common, it's also a major bug worth getting fixed :)09:11
Munchkinguyright09:11
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BlindSpotI followed the instructions to install the ATI driver but now ubuntu wont load, it says 'no screens' bla bla09:11
JeandreLooking for cheapy laptop that'll be able to handle a couple of years' worth of new Ubuntu versions, maybe the next LTS. Would an Athlon XP-2600+ be okay or should I eat ramen for a year and get a Pentium-M 1.73?09:11
AndrewCaulWhat's the harm in seeing /bin and such?09:11
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jazzrockerlukus001, you need to install codecs usually, and i think you may need to add your user to the optical group or something similar09:11
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AndrewCaulYou usually don't look at / unless there's something you want to change anyway.09:12
BlindSpotANYONE?09:12
amgadthinkl, that's the spirit :)09:12
kinjohey is ter any application which i can run to show wat tehupload and download speed of my connection is???09:12
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Jack_SparrowBlindSpot: What version of Ubuntu are you running?09:12
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lukus001jazzrocker, I dont know what codecs i need to add to get it to work, frm what im aware ive installed all i can see.... how to i add my user to the optical group?09:13
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jazzrockerlukus001, man adduser09:13
Munchkinguyofn: actually, a better how-to can be found at http://www.misterhowto.com/index.php?category=Computers&subcategory=Video&article=make_a_screencast_with_linux09:13
jazzrockerlukus001, i don't know if it's the optical group you need09:13
jazzrockerlukus001, i don't know if that's an ubuntu thing or not... that might be from my fedora days09:13
kinjohey is ter any application which i can run to show wat tehupload and download speed of my connection is?09:13
kinjoany1..09:13
lukus001jazzrocker ah ok - i never had to do it before in hoary so i doubt i need to then09:14
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someusernoobBlindSpot: any specific errors? Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:14
amgadkinjo, try bwm-ng09:14
BlindSpotDapper09:14
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ofnMunchkinguy> thanks09:15
BlindSpotthanks09:15
Bot_BuilderIf I've got the K7 kernel, and it works fine, can i remove linux-image-386?09:15
Madeyeguys, is there ubuntu-server wiki ?09:15
Munchkinguysethk: it is true that the *contents* of /bin cannot be seen, but the folder itself is still visible in Nautilus.09:15
Bot_BuilderI've messed up my ubuntu with package stuff before and i don't want to do it again09:15
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Bot_Builderthe main problem is it wants to remove linux-386, and there is no linux-k709:16
finalbetaJeez, trying to compile sensors-applet, because the repo version is ancient, but it has so many dependancies, and many are unavailable. Anyone know a repo that would hold a proper version?09:16
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sethkMunchkinguy, that's true.  we could remove directory search permissions from /, but that would block everything in /, probably not what you need to do.09:16
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lotusleafBot_Builder: sure, but if something should ever go wrong with your current kernel in upgrading or whatever, then you have nothing to revert to do you ;)09:16
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Bot_Builderactually, i should probably leave it in case i want to boot the disk from a regular comp09:16
jazzrockerBot_Builder, there's no real reason you need to remove it09:17
Bot_Builderlotusleaf: that too :)09:17
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jazzrockerBot_Builder, just change grub not to use it09:17
sethkMunchkinguy, seeing /bin is not a security issue in and of itself09:17
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Bot_Builderwell, i was annoiyed with the grub clutter :P09:17
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Bot_Builderohh09:17
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jazzrockerBot_Builder, comment it out09:17
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Munchkinguysethk: but for example, the folder "root" is not visible09:17
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voicuHi, does anyone know a lightweight C/C++ IDE (for KDE if possible)?09:17
jazzrockerBot_Builder, that's kind of a silly thing to be annoyed with09:17
Bot_Builderprobably09:17
Munchkinguyby default09:17
jazzrockervoicu, yeah, gvim09:17
sethkMunchkinguy, it is for me.   do this:    ls -ld /root    and tell me what it says09:18
voicuthanks09:18
Bot_Builderbut you can't press 'up' to get to the end of the list (windows)09:18
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mcphailvoicu: IDEs are not lightweight by definition. Use vim.09:18
Munchkinguyoh, never mind. It is.09:18
Bot_Builderso i have to hit down a bunch to get to it09:18
jazzrockervoicu, mcphail++09:18
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voicumcphail, lightweight related to KDevelop or Anjuta which are too 'enterprisey' for my needs :D09:19
icemananyone got any good screenshots of glx desktop09:19
ladydoorMunchkinguy: what exactly are you trying to do?09:19
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sethkMunchkinguy, paste the output of:     ls -ld /bin09:19
Munchkinguyhide some folders for asthetic reasons09:19
jbrichI am having a problem with my Multimedia- it is constantly switching on and off, and I am failing to understand why it won't turn back on... Does anyone have any ideas?09:19
lotusleaficeman: you mean xgl?09:19
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ladydoorMunchkinguy: ok...why do you need to hang out in / anyway?09:20
sethkladydoor, for some reason he wants non-root users to not see the /bin directory, rather than just not being able to enter the bin directory09:20
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ladydoorsethk: ah. wait, i can enter /bin09:20
ladydoorsethk: without being root. ...?09:20
icemanlotusleaf yea my bag ;( lol09:20
sethkladydoor, we changed his permissions on /bin to prevent that09:20
voicuhow about a console IDE? :P09:20
ladydoorsethk: oh, i see09:21
jazzrockervoicu, vim instead of gvim09:21
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ladydoorvoicu: emacs?09:21
sethkladydoor, so that works, but he wants /bin to not show up.09:21
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JeandreLooking for cheapy laptop that'll be able to handle a couple of years' worth of new Ubuntu versions, maybe the next LTS (before installing a lite distro). Would an Athlon XP-2600+ be okay or should I eat ramen for a year and get a Pentium-M 1.73?09:21
lotusleaficeman: youtube has a number of xgl+ubuntu videos if you'd like more than screenshots, where screenshots are concerned the ubuntuforums has some links, otherwise you can google xgl ubuntu screenshots09:21
mcphailvoicu: the only "advantage" i can see of kdevelop or anjuta is that they manage your makefiles. Vim is lovely; others will recommend emacs09:21
jazzrockerladydoor, voicu: emacs is NOT lightweight09:21
ladydoorsethk: ah. i would just suggest making shortcuts to the folders in / that he actually *does* go to09:21
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sethkladydoor, Munchkinguy we could remove x permission on /, and add x permission on the subdirectories he needs, but it hardly sweems worth the effort.09:21
ladydoorjazzrocker: on a modern computer it is.09:21
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voicuok, thanks all09:21
voicubye09:21
jazzrockerno. it's not. it's bloated as all heck.09:21
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vdepizzolHow can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?09:22
kinjook thx guys fr helping me.....09:22
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mcphailjazzrocker: there are stripped down versions, aren't there (?zile)09:22
ladydoorsethk: and that way he wouldn't need to *go* to /09:22
Jeandre6.06. DVD watching (xine) is being interrupted by the screensaver - where's the saver's settings? Wasn't a problem with 5.10.09:22
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ladydoorsethk: or look at the offending folders09:22
icemani downloaded kororaa Linux to see wat the hype is about on xgl, to bad the project got closed, cant get the live cd anylonger :(09:22
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lotusleafJeandre: try kaffeine when watching videos it simulates keypresses without disabling screensaver otherwise09:22
sethkladydoor, yes, that's true09:23
jazzrockermcphail, stripped down emacs is no longer emacs09:23
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Paddy_EIREanyone use a sony minidisc player in ubuntu or know what a good replacement for netmd or sonicstage is09:23
jazzrockermcphail, and yes, i'm aware of the "light" versions of emacs09:23
Munchkinguysethk: I probably isn't worth the effort. It's just that for some people, assorted three-letter folders that they probably wouldn't use, are kidn of daunting09:23
JeandreThanks lotusleaf.09:23
mcphailjazzrocker: i'll take your word. I never enjoyed emacs enough to appreciate its depths09:23
lotusleafJeandre: yw09:23
jazzrockermcphail, i used emacs for 5 years before switching to vim and i'll never go back09:24
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sethkMunchkinguy, ladydoor's suggestion would work, but as you said probably not worth the effotrt09:24
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vdepizzolHow can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?09:24
jazzrockermcphail, i in fact *tried* to go back to emacs about a year ago but the state of things was still JUST like it was when and why i left09:24
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=== mc__ loves emacs
sethkmcphail, there are certain things emacs can do that vim cannot.  there is no need to use the same editor all the time, you can use them as appropriate.09:24
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MunchkinguyGNOME should have some sort of "hide file" in the property diologue09:24
jazzrockeremacs os forever!09:24
ladydoori've created a monster!09:25
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sethkMunchkinguy, wouldn't be gnome, it would be nautilus09:25
toxic__Is it possible in vim, to have a short command output current line in bold ?09:25
mcphailsethk: fair enough. I'm no power user09:25
erremontzohi boys !!!09:25
jazzrockerMunchkinguy, hidden files start with .09:25
ladydoor!offtopic09:25
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:25
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mc__it is even possible to run vim in emacs09:25
jazzrockertoxic__, ask #vim09:25
mc__emacs is the most superior editor out there...09:25
jazzrockermc__, now *that* would be just stupid09:25
Munchkinguysethk: but they make nautiuls, don't they?09:25
mc__jazzrocker: why?09:25
mephis1987hello , is java netbean available for ubuntu ?09:25
swift777Any of you guys using Kubuntu (KDE) ?09:25
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ladydoori've created a monster! i'm sorry, but could this discussion be relocated to #ubuntu-offtopic?09:25
mephis1987netbeans09:25
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sethkMunchkinguy, sure, I was pointing out what level the change would be required in09:25
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davinIs it possible to copy / for backup?09:26
mephis1987!netbeans09:26
jbrichswitf777, I do, what about it?09:26
mc__jazzrocker: maybe you want to use vim as your editor and emacs as your os09:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:26
sethkMunchkinguy, also there are browsing programs gnome knows nothing about.09:26
Lynoureladydoor: yes, but more on #kubuntu09:26
lotusleafswift777: #kubuntu09:26
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jazzrockermc__, no one should use emacs as their OS... that's why we have Ubuntu09:26
odlawow firefox crashes a ton on me in dapper09:26
swift777I messed by Linux up last time i tried to install/update it09:26
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mcphailyep - should be in offtopic09:26
ladydoorLynoure: what're you talking about?09:26
odlait'll start loading a site and then take forever and crash09:26
sethkmc__, for some things, nothing can touch emacs.09:26
mc__jazzrocker: i use both09:26
ompaul!offtopic09:26
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:26
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Lynoureladydoor: I guess I but the wrong nick. didn't talk hell09:27
mc__sethk: for lisp programming is emacs the very best09:27
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Paddy_EIRE<odla>have never had this problem with firefox on ubuntu although it crashed randomly and without explanation on Mandrake 10.109:27
superjew9020anyone here ever hear of alltray09:27
sethkmc__, indeed.09:27
dj_baggio!ftp09:27
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd09:27
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someusernoobsuperjew9020: i did09:27
superjew9020do u have it09:27
jbrichAnyone know anything about multimedia malfunctions?09:28
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swift777Hey can anyone tell me what is better for Steam emulation Wine or Winex?09:28
jazzrockerswift777, probably cedega is better09:28
superjew9020hellz yea09:28
swift777ok thanks ill look for it now09:28
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someusernoobsuperjew9020: i got the .deb i think, but not installed09:28
ladydoorLynoure: errrr...ok?09:28
mc__swift777: WineX is now named Cedega09:28
jazzrocker!cedega > swift77709:28
Paddy_EIREanyone know what i should use for my minidisc player in ubuntu???09:28
swift777oh right (Lol)09:28
ompaulmc__ wrong09:28
superjew9020i installed it but i dont no wat to do now09:28
lotusleafswift777: you can always ask in #cedega or #winehq09:28
superjew9020to run it09:28
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wimsminidisk player ?09:28
wimserrr09:28
mcphailompaul: fair enough, but it started in reply to a genuine support question09:29
wimsis that a trick question?09:29
odlaanyone know if sharpmusique is still being developed and maintained?09:29
znhHello. I'd like to know if my harddisk is healty. Are there applications that can check this? Please let me know.09:29
thinklamgad: Well, setting POST_VIDEO=true in /etc/default/acpi-support fixed the problem. It's rather curious that that wasn't necessary before but now is.09:29
someusernoobsuperjew9020: open the program by navigating the menu, then a cross will appear, and click on an application that you want into the tray09:29
mc__ompaul: not wrong09:29
mc__ompaul: aks wikipedia09:29
sethkznh, yes, smartctl.  the SMART mode of webmin is also excellent09:29
superjew9020navigating wat menu?09:29
ompaul mc__ wine is not cedega09:29
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jazzrockerwikipedia is not always right09:29
amgadthinkl, great.. cudos for you..09:29
someusernoobsuperjew9020: its in applications > accesoires09:29
mc__ompaul: wineX is cedega09:29
someusernoobsuperjew9020: i guess09:29
ompaulahh09:29
superjew9020its not there09:29
ompaulstill more of a not on topic set of points09:30
mcphailompaul: cedega _was_ wine at one point09:30
swift777what would cedega be called in the Synaptic package manager?09:30
znhsethk, which package is that? apt-get install smartctl respons with not found?09:30
superjew9020nvm i screwed up09:30
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jazzrockerswift777, it wouldn't09:30
HubuntuGo get the cvs at cedega/wineX and see what you get09:30
mc__swift777: cedega is commercial09:30
ompaulmcphail, my X filter was on I did not see it :)09:30
_mariuxcan someone who has gnome installed here check if the gnome character selector allows searching after the names of the chars.? Like e.g. search for "sigma"09:30
someusernoobsuperjew9020: what version u have?09:30
jazzrockerswift777, you would go pay for it and download it from transgaming.com09:30
lotusleafswift777: it's not there, there is a trial on cedega's website09:30
mcphailompaul: :)09:30
sethkznh, smartctl is  a program, not a package.  I'll look for the package name, hold on09:30
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znhsethk, ok. thanks :)09:30
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superjew9020.69 but i got it to work i screwed up initially in bash09:31
sethkznh, package is smartmontools09:31
znhsethk, awesome. lots of thanks09:31
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sethkznh, has some other stuff in there that may be useful09:31
znhsethk, for example?09:31
jbrichDoes anyone know anything about Multimedia malfunctions?09:31
davinis it possible to copy / for backup?09:31
langelotINSTALL TOTEM-XINE09:31
davinI wanna tinker with Compiz09:31
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HubuntuJbrich what do youi mean?09:32
mcphaildavin: of course09:32
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davinmcphail: how?09:32
znhsethk, Long (extended) offline self test failed [unsupported scsi opcode] 09:32
mcphaildavin: you want ot back up your _whole_ system, right?09:32
RMorris84im having a problem i cant mount a partition it says unable to mount selected volume, mount, only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 what do i need to do?09:32
MageZsomeone uses wine to play warcraft 3?09:32
ompaul!restricted > jbrich09:32
RMorris84and why didnt it mount automatically09:32
davinmcphail: yep, on a usb harddisk09:32
sethkznh, not all drives support all commands.  you can dump the error tables that the drive maintains.  you can probably do the shorter test.09:33
sethkznh, but the accumulated error statistics are what tells you about the drive health09:33
ompauljbrich, please read the message from ubotu it will tell you step by step how to do multimedia stuff09:33
jbrichHubuntu, I am trying to listen to my music, and somehow, my whole multimedia setup crashes, and I can't get it to restart, after using the volume control.09:33
HubuntuJbruich go to www.ubuntuguide.org09:33
davinjbrich: EasyUbuntu09:33
znhsethk, how do I perform such test?09:33
mcphaildavin: then probably the best way would be to create an image of your system, using the "dd" command from a live cd. That way you will get an exact snapshot which you can restore to09:33
davinmcphail: why from a live cd?09:34
RMorris84how do i mount a partition as root in the terminal?09:34
HubuntuTry things manually first.. i have seen easybuntu do crazy things...09:34
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sethkznh, I'll have to look at the man page.  look in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools for information about using it.09:34
davinRMorris84: sudo mount /dev/blabla /mount/location09:34
sethkznh, webmin has a very easy gui interface to it, if you have webmin installed09:34
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znhsethk, I do not :)09:34
mcphaildavin: you will get problems backing up something which is changing - some of the files and folders on a running system will change as dd works, which can give errors09:34
HubuntuRmorris use: sudo mount09:34
RMorris84davin: it says mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda109:35
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davinmcphail: okay, so how do I use this 'dd' ?09:35
davinRMorris84: sudo09:35
Hubuntu use sudo first09:35
RMorris84davin: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?09:35
sethkznh, the docs are pretty good.  look at them.  if you still have problems I can help you in a few minutes; I have to do something here first.09:35
davinRMorris84: yes09:35
znhsethk, ok. thank you :)09:36
sethkRMorris84, if /media/sda1 exists.09:36
mcphaildavin: make sure your usb disk is formatted to whatever filesystem you prefer. Then run "sudo dd if=/your/ubuntu/partition of=/path/to/your/usb/drive/backup.img"09:36
superjew9021i forget who i was talkin to before but now when i minimize somethin to the tray with alltray i cant figure out how to bring it up again09:36
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davinmcphail: if = input file and of = outpout file, correct my if im wrong?09:36
mcphaildavin: correct09:36
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RMorris84sethk: i just did  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 and i tried to goto Computer and it says 29.2g volume but i cant explore it09:36
RMorris84its a fat3209:37
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davinmcphail: Okay ill try that in a minute, thanks alot!09:37
mcphaildavin: reverse the process to rewstore09:37
mcphailrestore09:37
RMorris84sethk: nevermind i went out and back in09:37
sethkRMorris84, you need to use   -t vfat09:37
davinmcphail: so if id want to restore id use 'sudo dd if=backup of=partition' ?09:37
sethkRMorris84, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda109:37
Hubuntu use: -t vfat at the end of the mount option09:37
mcphaildavin: yes09:37
davinmcphail: nifty09:37
superjew9021hello09:37
superjew9021?09:38
RMorris84sethk: will that make it mount everytime i reboot?09:38
HubuntuGnome should rewcognize your usb disk once you plug it09:38
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sethkRMorris84, no, not unless you add it to /etc/fstab09:38
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sethkRMorris84, it's not a removable device?09:38
mcphaildavin: the other way would be to copy all of the files across individually using rsync (or even plain old cp). I wouldn't recommend this for a full system09:38
RMorris84no it was my windows partition.. :) but its gone now!09:38
mephis1987hello , why did netbeans not include in ubuntu , i cant find it in synaptic ?09:38
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davinmcphail: okay, what does dd stand for?09:39
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mcphaildavin: no idea!09:39
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sethkRMorris84, you can add it to /etc/fstab to get it to mount at boot.  but if it's gone,...09:39
HubuntuWrite in at the fstab file if it is a hd you have moiunted ALL the time. A usb should NOT be in /etc/fstab09:39
ompaul!away > torchie09:39
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superjew9021someusernoob are u there09:39
davinmcphail: hmm, I think its Disk Duplicate or something09:39
BonBonTheJonwhere are network card drivers located09:40
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tuxtuxciao09:40
torchieoh, I'm not away09:40
mcphaildavin: could be09:40
RMorris84Hubuntu: it is my actual drive09:40
znhsuperjew9020, how do you know.. they might be faking you09:40
RMorris84sethk: Hubuntu how do i edit fstab?09:40
FirstStrike!fstab09:40
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions09:40
superjew9021wat?????09:40
HagbarddenstoreIs there a way to symlink something so that ALSA can never be busy?09:40
HubuntuMephis netbeans is available... i think under universe. Try googling something like: netbeans dapper repository09:40
mcphaildavin: there are lots of options to dd where you can fine tune things to make it work faster etc, but the basic command will do the job09:40
noobhello...i am having a problem printing a windows server 2003 printer09:40
davinmcphail: how do I totally wipe my usb harddisk and make 1 fat32 partition?09:41
HubuntuUse: sudo nano /et/fstab09:41
superjew9021helloooooooooooooooooo09:41
HubuntuBe EXTREMELY cAREFUKK09:41
davinmcphail: should I try gparted?09:41
FirstStrikeit's /etc/fstab09:41
someusernoobsuperjew9020: yes im here, i was typing an email and totally forgot about you, sorry, let me read back09:41
Hubuntue09:41
noobHAS ANYONE PRINTED TO A WINDOWS SERVER 2003 PRINTER?09:41
davinsuperjew9021: wait for someone to respond, nobody is responding inmediatley, this is irc09:41
superjew9021ok09:41
HubuntuYeah /etc/fstab09:41
davinnoob: caps09:41
mcphaildavin: don't use fat32 for your backup - the image file will be too large for it to handle09:41
vicscandlnoob: YES, BUT DON"T USE CAPS09:42
quietnoob: yes.09:42
someusernoobsuperjew9020: how did you get it into the tray? with command line?09:42
davinmcphail: no wait, ill use ext3, backing up ubuntu for windows to read is useless :P </dumb>09:42
noobvicscandl: how did you manage to do it?09:42
superjew9021no accesories >alltray09:42
quietnoob: http://localhost:63109:42
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noobquiet: as sudo?09:42
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vicscandlnoob: attached to it thru the network09:42
someusernoobsuperjew9020, i used to use an older version, and i could easily get my icons out of the tray by clicking them09:42
quietno... in firefox.09:42
mcphaildavin: make sure the usb hard drive is larger than your ubuntu partition09:42
gemeindebafolks, have a good night and to all you people helping (me, among lots of others): thanks!09:42
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superjew9021but there is no where to clicdk09:43
noobquiet: i know but should i run firefox as a super-user?09:43
quietnoob:09:43
quietno.09:43
davinmcphail: yeah, im making 1 big 150gb ext3 partition on it09:43
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someusernoobsuperjew9020: do you have a tray?09:43
davinmcphail: my ubuntu partition on my harddisk is 100gb09:43
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mcphaildavin: that will be fine09:43
superjew9021i dont think09:43
noobquiet: thank you09:43
superjew9021how do i add one09:43
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davinmcphail: primary partition, right?09:43
quietclick on 'add a printer' ?09:43
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mcphaildavin: whatever you want09:44
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piotr_ubuntu09:44
mcphaildavin: a logical partition is fine09:44
ompaul!pl09:44
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:44
quietnoob: this is a network printer, yes?09:44
someusernoobsuperjew9020: right click on the panel > add to panel > search for notification arwa, and add it09:44
davinmcphail: eww error09:44
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someusernoobsuperjew9020: notification area, it was a typo09:44
quietdon't add it as a samba printer... just add it to your machine with cups... using socket://<ip of printer>:910009:44
noobquiet: yes it is09:45
mactenchianyone here know ntp?09:45
ompaulsomeusernoob, your typing 9020 not 902109:45
davinmcphail: I think its working now, its 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdf1'09:45
superjew9021cool thhks09:45
noobquiet: im a little bit confused09:45
mcphaildavin: that sounds fine09:45
quietnoob: what is the model and ip address of the printer??'09:45
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someusernoobompaul: how stupid >_>09:45
piotr_W menu Gnome Aplikacje| Dodaj/Usun Programy zniklo, jak to przywrcic?09:45
noobquiet: no its connected to a windows server 2003 server09:45
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ompaulsomeusernoob, na how typoed :)09:45
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quietnoob: directly? not to a network cable?09:46
vicscandlnoob: System->Administration->Printers then click 'New Printer' and follow the prompts on the screen.09:46
someusernoobompaul: ah, he changed his name earlier...09:46
noobquiet: HP Deskjet 3740 192.168.0.109:46
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davinpiotr_; polska?09:46
ompaulsomeusernoob, let me help09:46
ladydoor!pl > piotr_09:46
miketechHi09:46
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piotr_Tak Polska09:46
noobvicscandl: i tried that..no luck09:46
davinpiotr_: #ubuntu-pl09:46
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quietnoob: 192.168.0.1 is the server, or the printer?09:46
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piotr_Yes Polska09:47
quietnoob: is the printer connected via jetdirect or usb?09:47
noobquiet: the printer is connected to the server09:47
noobquiet: usb09:47
vicscandlnoob: what kind of printer?09:47
quietoh.. ok.09:47
davinpiotr_: If your only language is polish, please use #ubuntu-pl, otherwise speak english in #ubuntu09:47
quieti don't know then..  i only do network printing.09:47
noobvicscandl: HP Deskjet 374009:47
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piotr_ W menu Gnome Aplikacje| Dodaj/Usun Programy zniklo, jak to przywrcic?09:47
davinmcphail: im gonna boot my live cd now, will go on irc there, brb!09:47
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vicscandlnoob is the printer shared on the *cough* windows box?09:47
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noobvicscandl: yes :|09:48
miketechi wanna run windows in a vmware and use it for daily work. what hardware do you recommend me to have?09:48
langelottry wine miketech09:48
quietmiketech: i have that for my workstationat work... it's a P4 3.0 ghz HT with 1 GB RAM...09:48
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quietworks fine.09:48
quietmiketech: use the vmware-server on ubuntu dapper at howtoforge09:49
miketechlangelot: no this is not a solution *g* I need a windows environment (programming with windows apis)09:49
miketechhowtoforge?09:49
quiet.com09:49
miketechok :) thanks09:49
miketechand 1 GB Ram is enough?09:49
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sethkmiketech, emulation is a high overhead process, so give yourself a lot of memory and a lot of cpu09:50
quietworks fine for me... i only gave my windows 256 MB09:50
quieti just turn off eyecandy09:50
mcphaillangelot: windows runs reasonably well in qemu on decent hardware09:50
vicscandlnoob: can you print to it from another computer on the network?09:50
BonBonTheJonif I put in a new network card, what will I have to do to install it09:50
mcphaillangelot: sorry - not for you09:50
sethkmiketech, for vmware plus linux, you might want to go higher than 1gig.  You can certainly run with one gig.09:50
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noobvicscandl: i cant print from windows machines09:50
sethkmiketech, you can try it with a gig and increase the memory if the speed is a problem09:50
mcphailmiketech: i have had vmware and windows running reasonably on a 512MB 1.4PentiumM laptop09:50
ompaul!samba > noob09:50
VegetaDoes anyone know how a Digital Signatur can be installed on linux?09:51
vicscandlnoob: so you can only print from the actual machine?09:51
ompaulnoob read the info from ubotu09:51
miketechmcphail: and you could work with it?09:51
kitnCan someone help me?  I have a failed install and I want to at least be able to boot to my windows partition.09:51
sethknoob, it's connected to a windows server, and you can't print from windows?09:51
mcphailmiketech: runs reasonably well if you switch off the eye candy09:51
sethknoob, how can you print from linux if the printer is attached to a windows server, and windows machines can't use it?09:51
vicscandlsethk: probing the same thing as me, eh?09:51
quieti wish vmware supported sound... :\09:51
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vicscandlsethk: great minds...09:51
mcphailquiet: it does09:51
sethkvicscandl, trying to figure out what's really going on.  :)09:51
quietit does?? how?09:52
kitnI tried to run gparted but apparently it's not available in Ubuntu 5.0409:52
miketechok, but visual studio is big software. so 1 GB should be better :)09:52
Sannehi09:52
quietmty windows VM has no sound.09:52
Duskikitn: insert windows cd, go to recovery mode & fdisk /mbr09:52
vicscandlsethk: sounds to me like the machine is not sharing its printer.09:52
noobsethk i can print to the printer from all windows machines on the network09:52
mcphailquiet: well, it does on workstation. Don't know about server09:52
SpCombBonBonTheJon: Plug 'n Pray, if it goes allright it should just show up as eth1 or whatever by itself09:52
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miketechi mainly need it for some windows programming with VS200509:52
vicscandlnoob: you just said that you could not. which is it?09:52
sethknoob, a moment ago you said you can't.09:52
sethkthe question makes a lot more sense if he can print from windows.  :)09:52
vicscandlsethk: aye.09:52
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kitnTried that, "fdisk" wasn't an available command from the repair line.  Besdes, I hadn't gotten far enough to install a boot loader, so my MBR should be fine.09:53
noobvicscandl sethk i can print from windows computers09:53
miketechmaybe xen is a bit faster?09:53
mcphailmiketech: 512MB - it will run, 1 Gig - fairly comfortable 2Gig - very nice09:53
kitnI just need to set the first partition as the boot partition again.09:53
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kcseth... other day you suggested using ALt Install image to put together an individual package installation of ubuntu... its not working... any ideas?09:53
miketechwith the newest Intel CPUs Xen should work with windows09:53
searaymani need a good dock/application launcher for gnome09:53
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miketechany experiences with xen?09:53
sethknoob, did you use a user name and password that are valid for the windows server?09:53
mcphailmiketech: windows won't run on xen yet without the new intel chips09:53
quietxen is faster.. but you can only run windows under xen with a VT capable processor.09:53
searaymanany good docks for gnome?09:54
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jerwarehi09:54
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mcphailmiketech: and i'm not convinced that xen is faster anyway. I have seen contradictory benchmark results09:54
quietsearayman: what's wrong with gnome-panel??09:54
noobsethk vicscandl ok..let me explain my network configuration... i have 6 computers and a server...5 of the 6 are windows boxes and one ubuntu box (mine)..all the windows computers can print to the server fine but my ubuntu machine cannot print09:54
mcphailmiketech: but supporting xen supports open source09:54
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searaymanquiet: i want somethign that is visibly pleaseing09:54
ompaulnoob, look at samba client09:55
noobsethk yes i did...i can use all the windows shares09:55
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quietsearayman: gdesklets?09:55
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kitnSo, how can I get to a partition manager in Ubuntu 5.04 to set my NTFS partition as the boot partition?09:55
FirstStrikesearayman: download some gnome themes09:55
sam_How do I make it so my Windows partition is automatically mounted when my pc starts?09:55
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RMorris84sethk: in my fstab it says /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       109:55
miketechmcphail: :) good criterion09:55
RMorris84but its not a ntfs tho09:55
vicscandlnoob: and trying to setup the printer using System->Administration->Printing as a samba printer is not working?09:55
quietsam_: add it to /etc/fstab09:55
searaymanquiet: actualy i tried them and i really liek the gnome bar desklet except for one thing, there is a big white box where the notifications area is09:56
sam_how?09:56
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sam_gksudo edit?(trying to workout how to edit in root09:56
fooHow can I find out how much ram my system is running when idle?09:56
quietsearayman: try some other windows manager... i'm a bit partial to openbox.09:56
mcphailmiketech: these things are important. In saying that, vmware produce an excellent product and have always been linux friendly. I think they even open-sourced an old version09:56
Flannelsam_: gksudo gedit, or sudo nano09:56
noobvicscandl: yes i tried via system>administration>printing but no luck09:56
miketechcurrently i have several computers, one for linux and one for win. wanna replace both with one notebook with linux and windows emulated. the new centrinos should work with xen and windows09:56
sam_ta09:56
searaymanquiet: if there was a way to remove the notifications area and have it blue there liek the rest of the deklet then it would be fine09:56
miketechwell i have never seen xen in action09:56
miketechis it similar to vmware?09:56
searaymanquiet:  whats openbox?09:56
miketechwith a gui?09:57
kitnBecause until I can boot to windows, I can't download a more recent version of anything.09:57
Eclypsehey all09:57
RMorris84im having trouble mounting a partition into ubuntu...09:57
lotusleaffoo: cat /proc meminfo09:57
lotusleaffoo: cat /proc/meminfo09:57
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quietsearayman: a very minimal window manager..09:57
Eclypseladydoor, it seems to have worked QUITE well, but it was missing files so I would like to know if there is a way to make it so it decompresses accurately 100%09:57
Eclypseladydoor, is there any way to make sure of this?09:57
mcphailmiketech: there was no gui when i last tried it, but things may well have moved on since then09:57
vicscandlsearayman: there is also fluxbox09:57
BoAihelp me please~~max_directory=`echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`    at here how to change the variable of  $MAX_DIR09:57
searaymanquiet:  is it possible to remove the notifications area?09:57
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ladydoorEclypse: bunzip2 itself doesn't usually cause that kind of problem; it's probably an error on the end of whomever compressed it09:57
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Eclypseladydoor, well is there any way to get the most accurate? just in case you know?09:58
Paddy_EIREhas anyone had any success in getting a Sony Minidisc Walkman working in ubuntu09:58
ladydoorEclypse: i don't know...i think that the accuracy question is mostly on the end of the compressor09:58
miketechok i should give it a try then09:58
EclypseLadydoor, ok lol09:58
BoAiplease some people help me help me please~~max_directory=`echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`    at here how to change the variable of  $MAX_DIR09:58
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RMorris84hey guys i just deleted my windows partition, and made it a fat32 it shows up alright, but its no mounted and when i mount it i cant write files to it.. and its not mounted when i boot up...09:59
searaymanquiet:  ca i edit the code somehow and make it not yse the gnome notification in the gdesklet09:59
EclypseLadydoor, I'll try some more09:59
mcphailBoAi: don't repeat so often, and think carefully about how you phrase the question09:59
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ladydoorEclypse: :-(09:59
Lirikalguien habla espaol?09:59
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ladydoorEclypse: sorry. you could read the manual i guess09:59
ladydoor!es09:59
Flannel!es09:59
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:59
davinmcphail: you there?09:59
BoAiim sorry09:59
searaymanLirik: un poco09:59
mcphaildavin: still here for the moment09:59
BoAii cant speak english well09:59
Lirikok09:59
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ladydoorBoAi: there are native language support channels10:00
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vicscandlBoAi: neither can I. ;)10:00
davinmcphail: im unable to mount my ubuntu partition (sda3)10:00
killownI not foud gcc what I do?10:00
mcphailBoAi: neither can I, and it is my first language :)10:00
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swift777Does anyone know how i could learn Spanish (Without paying or going to a school)?10:00
BoAi??10:00
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LinuxHelpDoes anybody know of an ftp client that can do recursive file searching?10:00
BoAii know10:00
mcphaildavin: you don't need to mount it10:00
MenZa!offtopic > swift77710:00
Flannel!tell killown about build-essential10:00
BoAi just find some artcle and read it10:00
searaymanquiet: ?10:00
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davinmcphail: well its unable to mount10:01
kitnNever mind, cfdisk seems to work.10:01
kitnThanks!10:01
BoAibest way is find a spanish girlfirend10:01
mcphaildavin: you don't need to mount it to copy it10:01
davinmcphail: it didnt auto-mount, and it says inaccesable at System > Administration > Disks10:01
davinmcphail: oh really?10:01
BoAii just~10:01
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LightTitanhow do I uninstall wine?10:01
mcphaildavin: although, it would be sensible to find out what disk problem you are having10:01
davinmcphail: but /dev/sda3 isnt a place, is it?10:01
vicscandlnoob: sorry man, i'm at a loss. what shows up if you nmap that winboxen?10:02
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rambo3http://xkcd.com/c149.html10:02
mcphaildavin: does /dev/sda3 exist?10:02
LightTitanI did not install it through synamtic. I did a manual install from a patched wine.10:02
Complexitycan somebody point me to a link instructing me how to set up a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu?10:02
FlannelLightTitan: then delete the files10:02
davinmcphail: yes, it says so at the gnome disks manager10:02
Flannel!tell Complexity about dualboot10:02
killownI want install gcc base10:02
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mcphaildavin: then that is fine. dd can copy the device10:02
`Lami have a headset with its own internal sound card attachment, thus acting as a second sound device, but whenever i switch to my headset from my default sound card, things like Totem or MPlayer still play from the default sound card until i restart the computer.  is there a way to fix that without restarting the computer?10:02
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Flannelkillown: install build-essential10:03
LightTitanFlannel, what exactly do you mean by delete the files....10:03
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killownFlannel ok thanks10:03
davinmcphail: sudo dd if=/dev/sda3/ /media/usbdisk/backup' ?10:03
davinmcphail: i mkdir'ed 'backup' on the usbdisk10:03
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mcphaildavin: /media/usbdisk/backup/filename10:03
FlannelLightTitan: manually delete all the files you installed when you installed wine, unless you compiled it and there's a make [remove/clean/whatever]  option, or installed it through dpkg10:03
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wims!lamp10:03
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP10:03
BoAiecho $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`  see this~  the max place must be 3dsmax dir~ but i dont know where to change that~~~10:04
BoAiunderstand my mean?10:04
davinmcphail: what do you mean by filename? it backs up to a file?10:04
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mcphaildavin: yes10:04
Complexitycan somebody point me to a link instructing me how to set up a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu?10:04
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LightTitanI compiled my own wine... so what command do I use to remove it?10:04
davinmcphail: no file extension, am i right?10:04
FlannelComplexity: ubotu sent you a link10:04
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mcphaildavin: you are creating an image file of the whole partition10:04
davinmcphail: I get it10:04
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mcphaildavin: you can give it any extension you want. Linux doesn't care about these things10:04
jribBoAi: no, can you elaborate?10:05
LOLhow do i access my harddrive through the livecd?10:05
davinmcphail: okay lemme try this10:05
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jribLOL: system > administration > disks10:05
Complexityahh thanx10:05
BoAiok i make a post10:05
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mcphaildavin: i would usually call it backup.img, to remind _me_ what sort of file it is10:05
BoAithanks advance10:05
FlannelLightTitan: check the makefile for a make remove or something, something that deletes all the files.  Otherwise you'll just have to manually track and delete them10:05
mcphaildavin: be prepared for a long wait as it backs up10:05
LOLjrib i need access to the files10:06
jribLOL: what filesystem?10:06
RMorris84im having trouble with mounting a partition in ubuntu...  it shows up but it isnt mounting correctly i looked at the fstab and it says its a ntfs and i formatted it with fat32, and its not letting me write files to it... what am i doing wrong10:06
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LOLi think ext3 jrib10:06
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davinmcphail: dd: unrecognized operand '/media/usbdisk/backup'10:06
ladydoorLightTitan: sudo make uninstall will uninstall it10:06
davinmcphail: sorry, forgot the filename10:06
davinmcphail: hmm still says so10:07
killownI want to put "sudo gnome-terminal" in icon launch application but it not works10:07
mikeconceptsrequest help with dual monitor setup, have nvidia gforce 5200 FX and have already did some of what's required10:07
mcphaildavin: what _exactly_ did you type10:07
jribLOL: well using system > administration > disks, should let you mount it.  You can use 'gksudo nautilus' to have root permissions using nautilus in case the permissions on the files don't let your regular user access them10:07
davinmcphail: 'sudo dd if=/dev/sda3/ /media/usbdisk/backup/image/'10:07
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noobok vicscandl...i dont know if this is of any use..but when i smbclient -L the server  i get the printer share10:07
LightTitanFlannel and Ladydoor, thank you.. I did find that file and used the make uninstall command. It worked, thanks.10:07
mcphaildavin: you missed the of=10:07
davinmcphail: forgot of= :)10:07
ladydoorkillown: you need to make that gksudo10:07
davinmcphail: hehe10:07
mcphaildavin: :)10:07
ladydoorLightTitan: np10:08
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erik_Is there any advantage in having a swap partition ?10:08
LOLjrib the disks program just lets me view its properties (such as how big it is) but not access the dirs and such10:08
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davinmcphail: dd: opening `/dev/sda3/`: not a directory10:08
vicscandlnoob: try using smbclient to connect to the printer share.10:08
davinmcphail: I think it needs to be mounted, as dev/sda3 is a file10:08
killownok10:08
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vicscandlnoob: if that works, then i don't see why setting it up in the administration won't work.10:08
noobvicscandl please advise as to how to do that10:08
mcphaildavin: _everything_ is a file10:08
Flannelerik_: swap partitions give you 'more' ram10:08
jribLOL: is there a "partitions" tab you can click on?10:09
vicscandlnoob: lemme go check the man page10:09
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davinmcphail: hmmhmm10:09
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mcphaildavin: check to see if /dev/sda3 exists10:09
mcphaildavin: the livecd may have called your disk something different10:09
kerwonzhi, when gnome 2.4.16 release?10:09
erik_Flannel: Well I know what swap is, but isn't linux 2.6 capable of swapping to file like windows ?10:09
LOLjrib yes, it says inaccsible10:09
kyja916 users @ freenode atm10:09
killownladydoor but I don't want popup10:09
kyjabla10:10
davinmcphail: Device: /dev/sda3 | Filesystem: Extended 3 | Size: 97.92 GB10:10
davinmcphail: Its not active10:10
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vicscandlnoob: smbclient //<server>/<printershare>10:10
jribkerwonz: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/10:10
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davinmcphail: and am not able to mount/set it active10:10
mcphaildavin: try removing the slash after /dev/sda3 in your dd command10:10
vicscandlnoob: i think... been a while since i have used smbclient CLI mode. ;)10:10
noobvicscandl lol10:10
ladydoorkillown: what were you expecting? if you want to use sudo/gksudo, you need to be prompted for your password for it to do anything10:10
jribLOL: create a directory for the "Access Path" and then enable it10:11
davinmcphail: that did the trick10:11
Duskican someone help me with this10:11
Duski[R200Setup]  X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.1.0, required X.org 7.0.-1.810:11
Duski(II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"10:11
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vicscandlnoob: have not run a windows machine (for myself) for over 2 years now.. :'P10:11
mcphaildavin: thought it would10:11
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killownladydoor nopasswd10:11
noobvicscandl: ok...i get a smb: \> prompt10:11
davinmcphail: now I hear my harddrives rattling and a flashing square, guess ill have to go grab a beer and wait ;-)10:11
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mcphaildavin: go and get yourself a beer. This will take a lot of time10:11
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mcphaildavin: lol10:12
noobvicscandl thaats where i want to be..100% ubuntu10:12
vicscandlnoob: ok, so you can connect to it, type quit10:12
ladydoorkillown: ah. something of a bad idea when opening a root console10:12
davinmcphai: heheh10:12
Sanneerik_: here's something about a swap file, point 6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq10:12
davinmcphail: cheers mate10:12
BoAihttp://boai.awardspace.com/viewtopic.php?p=17  hi~~  i make it fully post~~10:12
kerwonzjrib, but the ubuntu packages?10:12
Elcyhi10:12
tuxtuxreboot10:12
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jribkerwonz: I am guessing that it will be in edgy10:12
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davinmcphail: so when its done ill be able to control the shell again?10:12
BoAiso~ just take a look~ give me a little help please10:12
jrib!edgy10:12
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:12
mcphaildavin: yes10:12
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noobvicscandl how come that means i cant connect to it?10:12
kerwonzjrib, edgy, what's that10:12
mcphaildavin: you can ask dd for a progress report10:13
BoAijrib:  see my post~ please10:13
davinmcphail: good, off to the fridge!10:13
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erik_Sanne: thanks10:13
TonrenWho knows how to set up a Keyspan USB-to-SErial converter?10:13
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vicscandlnoob: no, you can... ok now bring up the add a printer dialog again, and i'll walk you thru it...10:13
Sanneerik_: you_re welcome :)10:13
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LOLwhere would the firefox bookmarks be installed?10:13
vicscandlnoob: note the server and printer share name you used before.10:13
hetaois there anybody know something about IFS??10:14
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noobvicscandl firing up the add printer dialog now10:14
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noobvicscandl..ok ready10:14
kendrickhello! i'm trying to add an external USB drive to a (headless) kubuntu-based server i've got running here10:14
vicscandlnoob: Network printer, change to 'Windows printer'10:14
kendricki'm not sure what modules and daemons i need to get running on it to make that happen10:14
ofnhow can i make gnome use windows shortcuts like super-d (show desktop) super-e (open home folder)10:14
jribBoAi: I'm not sure what your question is.  Are you wondering where $MAX_DIR comes from?10:14
vicscandlnoob: server name into host, printer share into printer, username and password if you need that.10:15
kendrickfwiw, i had it running fine on a kubuntu desktop (which still has a USB-based CF card reader attached, which works)10:15
davinofn: youd have to create scripts in /usr/bin10:15
BoAiyes10:15
hetaois there anybody know something about IFS??10:15
davinofn: and if you want set keyboard hotkeys using gconf-editor in metacity10:15
BoAi i just wonder where it from10:15
cvtwhy can't i burn cd's from files on an external hd?10:15
RMorris84ok im having trouble with reformatting a partition and then getting it to mount correctly after the fact.. can someone walk me through the correct way to do it10:15
noobvicscandl it prompts me to authenticate on the domain10:15
ofndavin: i'm using compiz...10:15
vicscandlnoob: username and pasword10:15
jribofn: it's a bit involved, you have to edit the gconf keys and use <mod4> as the modifier key (that is what the 'xmodmap' command tells me to use for Super_L which is the windows key)10:15
vicscandlnoob: fill them in?10:15
noobvicscandl authenticated10:15
davinofz: what exactly are you trying to do?10:15
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davinofz: you want to make terminal commands for gnome?10:16
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vicscandlnoob: so it worked then?10:16
VegetaWhat is "Linux RPM"? I want to download Java and there is for Linux and for Linux RPM, what is the difference? I'm using Ubuntu, should I choose the one with linux only?10:16
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ladydoorjrib: you could always use xbindkeys, which are easier to set up than the gconf editor...10:16
HesNikkealright, i've got 2 networking problems that i suspect might be related10:16
Elcyjadi bingung10:16
HesNikkefirst10:16
Duskican someone help me "X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.1.0, required X.org 7.0.-1.8" ?10:16
BoAijrib:  the max mean 3ds max~  i need to edit its path~ but dont know how to10:16
swift777whats the copy command for the Linux Terminal ?10:17
ofndavin: nah... i want to change gnome shortcut keys10:17
noobvicscandl: we are about to find out10:17
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kendrickVegeta: RPM is a package format used by RedHat and some other distros10:17
LOLwhere are my bookmarks from firefox located?10:17
RMorris84ok im having trouble with reformatting a partition and then getting it to mount correctly after the fact.. can someone walk me through the correct way to do it10:17
kendrickUbuntu uses DEB, the Debian package format10:17
davinofz: on your keyboard?10:17
ladydoorswift777: cp filetobecopied destination10:17
ofnyup10:17
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kendrickif you cannot find a DEB package, you may need to run "alien" on the RPM to convert it into a DEB.10:17
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swift777ladydoor: thanks10:17
Elcyjadi bingung10:17
kendrickor if they have sourcecode available (e.g., in a ".tar.gz" file), download and compile it10:17
hetaois there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt application and i have many questions to slove!10:17
jribladydoor: true10:17
ladydoorswift777: and if you're copying multiple files to one dir, you could do cp file1 file2 file3 dir10:17
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Vegetakendrick: So I should choose "Linux" and NOT "Linux RPM"?10:17
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noobvicscandl: no dice :| it says "printing" and then says "paused10:17
HesNikkeno matter how i tweek /etc/hdcp3/dhclient.conf whenever it renews my IP addresses, it screws with my DNS settings and INSISTS on using my router as DNS rather than a real DNS server that actually works10:17
ElazarIs there a way to check for packages that aren't dependencies of other packages and/or haven't been used recently?10:17
HesNikkeany ideas?10:18
Eclypsehey ladydoor, is there a difference between bz and bz2 compression?10:18
jribBoAi: it's not really possible to tell what sets MAX_DIR, does 'echo $MAX_DIR' in your terminal give you output now?10:18
kendrickVegeta: depends on what they (whoever it is) says the "linux" download is10:18
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kendrickyou may want to ask them (Sun?)10:18
ladydoorEclypse: bz2 is more recent/advanced...10:18
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jumbersI'd like to know if I'm just retarded or if this is a true problem. Is audio out of sync with video in Flash on Ubuntu?10:18
bluefusionxlHow is everyone?  I hate that Ubuntuguide turned into a Wiki.. it sucks big tennisballs10:18
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vicscandlnoob: give it a few, perhaps the printer is warming up?10:18
davinim actually using irssi now on the live cd :P too lazy to setup gaim for irc10:18
Eclypseladydoor, I think its possible that the .dmg may be compressed in regular bz10:18
hetaois there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt win32 application and i have many questions to slove!10:18
ladydoorEclypse: oh...weird10:18
SanneVegeta: java is in the ubuntu repositories10:18
bluefusionxlI am installing Breezy right now, and I'm going to upgrade it to dapper using apt10:18
noobvicscandl this printer is always online10:18
Eclypseladydoor, you think I would need a differnet program for that?10:18
killownexact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.10:19
Eclypseladydoor, because it seems to be inconsistant in the decompressed image.10:19
killownconfigure: error: "Cannot find glib"10:19
HesNikkealright, 2nd10:19
BoAijrib: sorry im nor sure~ seen like it give me null10:19
killownWhat I do?10:19
Eclypseladydoor, its really odd, I think it should be 4.43GB or something, but its only 3.410:19
bluefusionxltype apt-get install glib10:19
bluefusionxl:P10:19
davinmcphail: id have to say, this irc channel totally outnumbers microsofts phoneline, but thats just my opinion10:19
HesNikkei havn't looked into timing yet, but IP networking likes to die on a regular basis10:19
HesNikkeand then it comes back on it's own a bit later10:19
ladydoorEclypse: i don't know10:19
killownE: glib package not found10:19
bluefusionxlIf I am installing ubuntu server, will I still get apt?10:19
VegetaSanne: Ok thank you :)10:19
erik_the same mounted 'windows drive' shows up twice on my desktop.. as its "windows label" and as "/media/device" using current edgy..10:19
vicscandlnoob: sorry then, this is the extent of my knowledge/capability then10:20
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mcphaildavin: microsoft are never keen to answer questions about ubuntu ;p10:20
SanneVegeta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java10:20
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HesNikkei CAN say that it happens more often than the IP lease renews10:20
killownbluefusionxl, not found glib package10:20
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ladydoordavin: irssi's better anyway, for irc, since it's specifically designed for it and isn't an x application10:20
BoAii think when it cant find anything it just give me nothing(null)10:20
bluefusionxlkill, let me try to find what is wrong10:20
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noobvicscandl: im going to send you a screen shot10:20
hetaois there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt win32 application and i have many questions to slove!10:20
HesNikkeSMB networking works just fine10:20
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vicscandlnoob: you may want to try printing something from windows to see that the printer is able to print? (perhaps there is a more general error?)10:20
mookidI've mounted my windows partition but I can only access the folder it's mounted to as root - does anyone know why and how i can fix this?10:21
Eclypsedoes anyone know of any programs other then bzip2 that can decompress .dmg.bz files?10:21
HesNikke*blink*10:21
bluefusionxlGlib is the basis of Gtk.  Try sudo apt-get install gtk, kill10:21
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HesNikkeok, IP networking isn't completely dead, it just let me ssh into the box10:21
jared777is there anyway when using kismet to keep it from disabling the rest of my internet connection so i can keep chatting and browsing the web?10:21
noobvicscandl: i'll try now10:21
vicscandljared777: get 2 wifi cards. ;)10:21
killownpackage gtk not found bluefusionxl10:22
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bluefusionxlim gonn eat.. brb10:22
jribBoAi: well I am not sure what your goal is, but why can't you directly edit the script and change it to what you want?10:22
jared777thought you would say that :)10:22
bluefusionxlkill, I believe your apt-get sources are mewssed up then.  Go to ubuntu.nl/source--matic and get some more sources10:22
jared777might have to try ndiswrapper and get my built in one to work10:22
BoAijoin #ubunto-tw10:22
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BoAi~~ my bad10:23
vicscandlnoob: where you sending that screenshot to?10:23
noobvicscandl: to u10:23
mookyevening channel10:23
IMEChow can i import the correct mit-magic-cookie for root automatically, instead of doing it by hand every time i restart x-server?10:23
vicscandlnoob: but where? pastebin?10:23
HesNikkeso nobody has any ideas?10:23
HesNikkei feel like i'm being ignored here10:24
cvthow do i give permission to k3b to access my external hd and my external dvd burner?10:24
Eclypsedoes anyone know of any programs other then bzip2 that can decompress .dmg.bz files?10:24
mc__HesNikke: be patient10:24
noobvicscandl: i have no idea10:24
noobvicscandl: im a newbie10:24
`Lami have a headset with its own internal sound card attachment, thus acting as a second sound device, but whenever i switch to my headset from my default sound card, things like Totem or MPlayer still play from the default sound card until i restart the computer.  is there a way to fix that without restarting the computer?10:24
ladydoorHesNikke: if nobody knows, nobody will help you. it's not "ignoring"10:24
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davinhow do I scroll up in isrssi? (terminal10:24
HesNikkelol10:24
Flanneldavin: pageup10:25
HesNikkefine, it'd be nice if i got an i dunno or 2 :P10:25
`Lam:'(10:25
vicscandlnoob: so how are you going to 'send it to me'?10:25
davinFlannel: Cheers :-)10:25
BoAijrib: i was think bot that~ but im use a small system~  if i edit here then i afraid somehere will more bad~~ and out of i can control10:25
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mc__HesNikke: everyone who says nothing means "dunno"10:25
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noobvicscandl: by clicking your name and clicking "send file" (im using xchat)10:25
mookidI've mounted my windows partition but I can only access the folder it's mounted to as root - does anyone know why and how i can fix this?10:25
vicscandlHesNikke: was not following you, gimme a minute to backscroll..10:25
jared777what programs can't i use with ndiswrapper? just stuff like kismet and threal?10:25
BoAicould i pack the system and please you have a look?10:25
davinmcphail: hehe no I meant that when you call them they dont wanna go very in-depth, while here you guys are really helping people10:25
vicscandlnoob: but I am not, so I will never see the file.10:25
Flannelmookid: change the umask in your fstab10:26
noobvicscandl: so how do i send it to u?10:26
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jribBoAi: try this and then run it again:   export MAX_DIR=what_you_want10:26
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BoAiok10:26
vicscandl!pastebin > vicscandl10:26
mookidFlannel: where abouts is fstab i forgot10:26
killownwhat repository has glibc?10:26
BoAi^_^10:26
kendrickhrm10:26
enriqueexit10:26
vicscandl!pastebin > noob10:27
kendricki see in my /var/log/messages:  Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods10:27
vicscandlthat will tell you10:27
Flannelmookid: /etc/fstab10:27
mookidk10:27
Flannelkillown: main10:27
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Flannelkillown: if you install build-essential, it should grab all that stuff10:27
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vicscandlnoob: so were you able to print right now with one of the winboxen on your network?10:28
killownFlannel but I yet installed it10:28
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alunoaluno10:29
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Sannemookid: here's some info on umask and fstab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VolumePermissions10:29
vicscandlHesNikke: your wifi is dropping at random intervals?10:30
HesNikkenope10:30
HesNikkeother computers on that node are working just fine10:30
vicscandlHesNikke: your wired is dropping?10:30
HesNikkeSamba networking is working just fine10:30
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mookidty10:31
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HesNikkeit's starting to look like my ip traffic is being dropped at the router O_o10:31
HesNikkebut only for my ubunutu box10:31
HesNikkei'm gonna reboot it10:32
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vdepizzolHow can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?10:32
HesNikkeespecially since my video mode for consol just got screwed up O_o10:32
noobvicscandl: yes i can successfully print from a windows box10:32
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mortal5where can i find vim/xvim 7 for ubuntu?10:33
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vicscandlnoob: can you check the settings on one of the winboxen how its printer is setup (not the one that the printer is connected to)10:33
killownI not found glib in apt-get repositories10:33
Shak-is there an ubuntu client that allows you to connect to a windows machine running remote desktop?10:33
lotusleafmortal5: have you tried compiling it?10:34
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Rich43Shak-, yes, have you looked at the package manager?10:34
noobvicscandl: well...im not great on ubuntu but i know that all the windows boxes first authenticate on the domain and then hav full access to printing10:35
HesNikkerebooting didn't fix it10:35
mortal5lotusleaf, this is ubuntu, you shouldn't have to compile a major package like vim10:35
erik_i get double icons on my desktop, its a windows drive shown as: both /media/hda1 and windows .. both 'links' point to the same drive10:35
HesNikkei hate 2wire10:35
vicscandlnoob: trying to find out if the winboxe are using SMB or if they are using something else..10:35
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VegetaSanne: The Java package doesn't exist on "Add/Remove Programs" :S10:36
Shak-Rich43 yes, im aware there is one that allows ubuntu -> ubuntu connections or windows -> ubuntu, but I havent seen anything that allows ubuntu -> windows10:36
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noobvicscandl: and how could i find that out?10:36
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DeeahWhat package do I need to install from edgy(X7.1) to have 3d acceleration? I have an ati 9100, and I'm using the "ati" driver by default when I installed dapper. But I'm missing some package(module?) for 3d stuff10:36
lotusleafmortal5: yes, but it doesn't hurt to ask :) You might ask on the Ubuntu Forums if anyone knows where a .deb may be for that app and version if you don't find your question answered here10:37
vicscandlnoob: check the settings for the printer on one of the networked winboxen, not the one that has the printer attachd to it.10:37
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crashdanyone know why cinepaint wont install properly on a64 dapper? :\10:37
BoAii upload the system~ could someone take a look?10:37
jbmigelDeeah run "glxinfo | grep direct"10:37
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jbmigelDeeah your card should be supported 3D with the free Xorg drivers... no need for you to install anything!10:38
Shak-Rich43 also this isnt with vnc, im trying to connect to windows's native remote desktop server10:38
goldfishhi10:38
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mortal5lol get this, if I want to uninstall vim to install 7, it wants me to uninstall ubuntu minimal10:38
SanneVegeta: maybe try Synaptic package manager. You might have to enable the multiverse. The link I gave explains that, and gives a link to a page about anabling repositories.10:38
mcphailmortal5: i'm running vim6 and 7 on the same install10:38
davinmcphail: gonna cry so hard if the live cd would lock up now =o10:38
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mcphaildavin: it hasn't, has it???10:39
davinmcphail: nah, how would I be writing this? ;-)10:39
noobvicscandl: well what am i looking for?10:39
Deeahjbmigel: direct rendering: No10:39
DeeahOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect10:39
mcphaildavin: true :)10:39
davin!pastebin > Deeah10:39
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SanneVegeta: do you still have the link to the wiki page?10:40
Deeahjbmigel: I know my card is supported, but I am missing xorg module/package I'm not sure what10:40
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mortal5why does ubuntu use these 'metapackages' ?  For instance, if i want to remove gstreamer, it wants to remove ubuntu desktop10:40
jbmigelya thats weird... sorry man i cant help you debug, just works for me10:40
lampshadewhat are the big diffs in VIm 7?  I didn't even know it came out?  What could they really do to improve other than speed?10:40
shwaghow do I install all secuity updates ?10:40
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mortal5lampshade, tabs, code completion10:40
Deeahjbmigel: xorg is modular, you can have xorg run with only 2d support. There is a 3d library for xorg.10:40
mortal5etc etc10:40
lampshademortal5: code completion?????10:40
davinshwag: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | sudo apt-get update ?10:41
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xdxhow can i see my partition ?!10:41
shwagdavin...well that would upgrade everything. I only want security updates10:41
vicscandlnoob: how the printer is setup.10:41
mortal5www.vim.org10:41
lampshademortal5: holy crap wow, checking it out now,10:41
goldfishhow do i network two ubuntu pc together10:41
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noobviscandl: i see how its setup..so what do you want to know10:41
mookidAre there any equivalents to cubase for linux? :)10:42
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VegetaSanne: Yeah I still am at the page, but I don't see how to create a multiverse.10:42
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davinshwag: shouldnt it notify you?10:42
SanneVegeta: one sec10:42
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vicscandlnoob: what kind of setup is it? SMB, direct network printer,???10:42
goldfishneed help with networking10:42
shwagdavin, actually i dont have a gui installed. this is a server.10:42
nashifeI'm running dapper, and I just installed wine from synaptic and I can't get sound to work no matter how i configure it with winecfg.  can someone help?10:42
goldfishnfs10:42
noobvicscandl: direct network printer10:43
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mookidOhh btw.. can anyone tell me if there is less support for ubuntu 64 at the moment10:43
xdxhow can i see my partition ?!10:43
goldfishwant to share folders10:43
noobvicscandl: i dont think that windows to windows uses samba10:43
vicscandlnoob: so there is an ip address and not an SMB computer?10:43
goldfishwhere are shared folder shown10:43
mcphailshwag: why don't you just leave the "security" repos uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list10:43
vicscandlnoob: SMB is a protocol.10:43
noobvicscandl:  well...in that case it is smb10:44
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jbmigelxdx man fdisk10:44
mcphailshwag: and comment out the others10:44
Sannemookid: Not exactly equivalents. Look around at http://ubuntustudio.com and http://linux-sound.org/. Closest would be: muse, rosegarden, ardour (no midi yet, but coded right now), beast, lmms, wired.10:44
vicscandlnoob: so its like //<computername> not //192.168.4.4?10:44
shwagmcphail, thats a good idea10:44
VegetaSanne: I have downloaded the latest version of Sun Java, why can't I just install that. If so, how do I install THAT file (I'm really a newbie :/...)?10:44
noobvicscandl: its like //server/HPDeskje10:44
mookidoki doki thanks Sanne10:44
mcphailshwag: but most (?all) of the updates for the stable ubuntu branch are security related10:44
xdxwhen i run cfdisk i got that FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive10:44
xdx                          Press any key to exit cfdisk10:44
vicscandlnoob: and that is what you put in the setup on the ubuntu boxen?10:44
xdxwhy ?!10:44
goldfishmy computer is goldfish-desktop my friends is bully10:44
fokusleehi all i need some help with SLI10:44
noobvicscandl: yep10:44
jbmigelxdx sudo?10:45
noobvicscandl:  it asked me to put in the host and the printer10:45
vicscandlnoob: hrm, ok, can you connect to any of the windows shares from the ubuntu boxen?10:45
SanneVegeta: oif you're a beginner, better stick with installing ubuntu packages before you know how to do things manually. Som, on the java page, at the top under "Prerequisites", there's a link to "Managing Repositories".10:45
noobvicscandl: host-server printer-HPDeskje10:45
xdxjbmigel,  i run with live cd10:45
noobvicscandl: yeah...i can access the shares perfectly10:45
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goldfishhelllllllllllllllllllp10:46
VegetaSanne: I went there, but it doesn't explain how to create a multiverse (I have universe)..10:46
ompaul!ask10:46
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:46
shwagmcphail, looks to me like most of them just want to upgrade the package name from  ubuntu6.06  to  ubuntu6.06.210:46
mookyhello ompaul10:47
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mookydidn't see you lurking10:47
miketechhm when I install windows in a vmware I have other system components than my system has in real.10:47
mcphailshwag: most minor version updates are security related10:47
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miketechis it the same in xen?10:47
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miketechdoes it emulate the hardware too?10:47
miketechor does it use the real components of the system?10:47
Sannemookid: there's also a sub-forum on ubuntuforums for ubuntustudio, if you have any questions. Also the channels #ubuntu-studio and #lad (linux audio user and devs) here on freenode.10:47
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vicscandl!printing > vicscandl10:47
ompaul!msg the bot10:47
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops10:47
mookidexcellent10:48
Paddy_EIREhave you guys read about this "dadvsi" I know I wont be following it!10:48
mookid:D10:48
VegetaThrough Synaptic, I can see that java-common and java-gcj-compat are installed, but there arent other java files there, other than java-gcj-compat-dev which is not isntalled.10:48
fokusleecan anyone help me with sli probleM?10:48
Chris_SwiftHey anyone here a coder for Linux apps? I am an ex-windows programmer and looking for some assistance in finding tutorials and compilers for the linux i386 architechure10:48
mookidSanne: are there many budding RDJ's out there in the linux world then? :P10:48
SanneVegeta: on the page linked to, under section "Managing Repositories", there are links how to do that on Ubuntu, Kubuntu and from the command line. That should tell you how to do that.10:48
miketechChris_Swift: what programs do you wanna write?10:49
Chris_Swiftwell i used to code for Games and mods but now i am interested in messenger apps10:49
Chris_SwiftC++ language10:49
miketechok10:49
ompaul!grub > xdx10:49
miketechfor kde or gnome?10:49
Chris_SwiftGnome amt10:49
Chris_Swift*atm10:49
jbmigelChris_Swift install build-essential for C/C++ then find yourself a dev environment10:49
miketechthen you have to use gtkmm10:49
miketechgtkmm.org10:50
erUSULChris_Swift: http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/10:50
miketechthis is the gtk binding for c++10:50
vicscandlnoob:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:50
Chris_Swiftok htanks guys10:50
miketechnp10:50
vicscandlnoob: er, not that one http://linuxprinting.org10:50
Chris_Swiftneed to learn some new stuff now10:50
miketechthere are a lot of tutorials10:50
mookidCan anyone tell me if using 64 bit ubuntu a disadvantage? I'm using it at the moment but only because I have an AMD 64 and I didnt realise 32 bit would run fine :(10:50
miketechon gtkmm.org10:50
Sannemookid: there are some, but linux audio lacks a nice virtual studio yet. Lots is in the works right now, but it's still pretty early. It's a bit troublesome to really get to work, although some do. Recording is fine, though (with ardour, as I heard).10:50
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Crippy-BoyChris_Swift: Install build essential and grab Code::Blocks (Get the nightly build .deb and install using dpkg)10:51
fokusleeyeah you don't have flash on mozilla10:51
fokusleeand no real player10:51
mookidok so it's gonna take some hacking to get it working basically10:51
mookid:DD10:51
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jribmookid: and no w32codecs10:51
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Sannemookid: I'm also reading this one from time to time: http://www.nabble.com/linux-audio-user-f13236.html10:51
jbmigelmookid it is about the same, only read difference is you cant run flash, but then again nobody can run flash 9 anyway so meh10:51
opera_hi10:51
miketechdoes anybody know, if I can install a windows on my system and boot it with xen? or do i have to reinstall the system in xen?10:52
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miketechthis would be great :)10:52
mookidyeah not having flash really pisses me off :/10:52
Crippy-Boymiketech: You cant run windows in xen10:52
fokusleemokid and also no w32codecs10:52
miketechso i could boot windows if i need full performance or start in xen if i wanna use it in linux10:52
Sannemookid: you can have flash and the codecs, lemme find you a link10:52
miketechCrippy-Boy: with newest cpus I can10:53
fokusleemokid plus i don't see a major speed improvement10:53
quietCrippy-Boy: you can.10:53
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mookidapparently its more stable in 64 bit is that true?10:53
quietCrippy-Boy: any VT capable processor can run Windows in Xen10:53
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mookidand I can run flash by running a 32 bit firefox cant I ?10:53
quietyes.10:53
jbmigelmookid it's a little faster maybe 10% having some extra registers... Id stay in 64bit cuz its cool and not many do10:53
FurryNemesishas anyone else had trouble accessing the  forums today?10:53
Crippy-Boyquiet: I might be wrong but didnt it take some NTKernel hacking to get it running?10:53
quietno.10:54
Sannemookid: some pages to read for amd64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=amd64&titlesearch=Titles10:54
miketechonly if you don't have a vt capable cpu10:54
mookidthanks mate :)10:54
mookidthanks alot everyone10:54
quietthere was some of that.. before the VT stuff came out10:54
caesar_hey, I want to scroll around webpages when I middle click in firefox. How do I turn that on?10:54
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fokusleejbmigel do u now anything about nvidia sli?10:54
mcphailmookid: running amd64 ubuntu is a bit like running linux 3 years ago - good fun but you need to work at it10:54
Crippy-Boyquiet: Ahh i appologise i havent looked at xen for a while10:54
jbmigelfokusless sorry no i dont... I know it's cool.10:54
Sannemookid: also in the forums there's a sub forum for 64 bit (it's down at the moment, so I can't provide a link right now...)10:54
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mookidkk10:55
quietCrippy-Boy: np..  i don't use xen either... i run vmware-server10:55
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quietit's a lot easier.10:55
fokusleeyeah itz not working on my comp pissing me off and i post on forum no one can hel either10:55
jbroomeyeah, i popped in here to ask if the forums were running off someones dial-up10:55
Sannemookid: good luck (lots to read, eh? ;)10:55
mookidyep! :D10:55
quietjbroome: you're serious??10:55
quietjbroome: no.10:55
mookidthanks for your help Sanne10:55
caesar_nvm. Got it taken care of10:55
Sannemookid: you're welcome :)10:55
jbroomequiet: </sarcasm>10:55
mookid:)10:56
fokusleelol yeah forum was super slow10:56
FurryNemesismmm, I can't even get there on the windows maching10:56
FurryNemesis*machine10:56
magical_trevskyquiet, on the subject of xen, how do i find out if my processor is VT capable?10:56
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mookyI'm really struggling to get the correct resolution out of my monitors. I've read the wiki "fix resolution" threads to no-avail. I would really appriciate some thoughts on how to get the correct resolution out of these monitors. I know they are capable of higher. I'm using the nvidia binary driver10:56
quietmagical_trevsky: what processor is it?/10:56
Crippy-Boyquiet: Just curious, Do you know which processors are VT capible? just for future reference10:56
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mookidis VMWare server free on linux? :O10:56
magical_trevskycpu[1 x Mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ @ 1.66GHz w/ 256 KB L2 Cache] 10:56
miketechno it isn't10:56
quietmookid: yes.10:56
mookidPRAISE THE LORD!10:56
quietVmware-server is free on everything.10:56
miketechonly newest Intel CPUs are VT capable10:57
magical_trevskyah, ok10:57
mookidI thought you had to pay for it on xp ?10:57
Blissexmookid: not the server version: the player.10:57
mookidohh10:57
mookidbent10:57
mookid:/10:57
Renan_s2Blissex, but there is a free Server version10:57
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Renan_s2I use it.10:57
zoidbergdoes anyone use TVTIME here?10:57
Crippy-Boymiketech: Newest being the 'core' series?10:57
Sannemookid: the player is in the repositories10:57
bigjbthere is a free server version for all supported platforms10:57
mookidplayer only runs live cd's tho eh?10:57
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quietBlissex: what are you talking about??  server is too free.10:58
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mookidare we talking about torrents here or what?10:58
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zoidbergdoes anyone here use TVTIME?10:58
Krpanoto install the nvidia video drivers on a laptop is the same method as the desktop ?10:58
Sannemookid: you can get a virtual machine on the net and install anything you want. I made myself a nice little windows 98 se virtual machine :)10:58
miketech Intel Core Duo: Alle Modelle auer T2300E Intel Core Solo: Ultra Low Voltage Modelle Intel Core 2 Duo: Alle Modelle Intel Core 2 Extreme: Alle Modelle Intel Pentium 4: 6x2-Modelle Intel Pentium D: 9xx-Modelle, auer 915, 925 und 945 Intel Pentium Extreme Edition: 9xx-Modelle Xeon DP / MP: Alle Modelle mit "Paxville-MP"-Kern bzw. 7xxx-Serie Intel Itanium 2: "Montecito" Modelle10:58
jribKrpano: yes10:58
quietno... in the vmware website.10:58
jrib!nvidia > Krpano10:58
Gumbyanyone here use frostwire?  Ive installed the ubuntu package from the frostwire website but it cant seem to find the java executable.  It wants to find it in /usr/java, /usr/lib, /usr/java, or /opt/  but ubuntu's sun jre resides in /usr/bin/java.  Anyone have any ideas (other than a symlink)?10:58
Adamhi all10:58
FurryNemesis!frostwire10:59
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire10:59
miketechmostly Intel Core and Pentium D10:59
miketechor itanium10:59
Krpanothx10:59
Adamwhen compiling ivtv I get this:10:59
Adam WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers10:59
Adam           is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.10:59
Crippy-Boyhmm but not 820?10:59
jribGumby: run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure Sun's is selected10:59
ompaulGumby, you tell the machine in sudo update-alternatives where to find java10:59
Adamwhat does it mean?10:59
bigjbmookid: http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz10:59
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mookid\o/10:59
quietmookid: that's an old version.11:00
quietuse the latest.11:00
kylebakedis there a math program sorta like octave or mathomatica that has a gui?11:00
mookidok11:00
quiet2999611:00
bigjberm, thats the latest available version of of vmwares site11:00
Sannemookid: virtual machines here: http://www.easyvmx.com/   Some more info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVmPlayer11:00
Helpwhat should the default permissions of /etc be?11:00
quiethttp://www.vmware.com/download/server/11:00
Qballmatlab has a gui. but not free11:00
Sannemookid: beep if you're getting overloaded ;)11:00
kylebakedargh, thanks11:00
cntbSanne Iwant windows Xp on XEn11:00
Gumbyjrib & ompaul: perfect, thanks guys(gals)11:00
kylebakedanything else you know of11:01
bigjbheh11:01
Sannecntb: aha...11:01
bigjbsorry mookid quiet is right11:01
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quietcntb: you better cough up the dough for a VT processor.11:01
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mookidnps i'll survive ;D11:01
bigjbi clciked download link before the button link had loaded for the latest version :P11:01
cntbVT processor11:01
vicscandlnoob: sorry i could not be more of a help.11:01
cntb?11:01
Sannecntb: I don't know anything about xen, sorry, never used it.11:01
quietcntb: the only way you can run windows udner Xen.11:01
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quietcntb: Pentium D, Core Duo, Itanium...etc.11:02
mookydoes anyone have any tips on sorting out Xorg resolution issues. I've been through the fixresolution page on the wiki11:02
cntbhave PEntium D11:02
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quietwhich?11:02
miketechoh and cool:11:02
miketechjust read:11:02
cntb3 MHZ11:02
noobvicscandl: no i appreciate the help that you gave mi11:02
miketechyou can install the guest system in the file system11:02
Sannemookid: good to know, so here are some more links for you ... (joke)11:02
miketechnot only in a image11:02
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quietcntb: which model..11:02
casey420is there a way i can access my windows network on ubuntu to play my music off my desktop on my ubuntu desktop ?11:02
davinmcphail: hehe its still backing up, im going to bed now anyway, so long and thanks for the fish11:03
vicscandlnoob: wonder if it is win2k3 specific.11:03
miketechshouldn't it be possible to install windows and linux parallel and boot windows in a linux xen?11:03
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mcphaildavin: night11:03
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mookidSanne: lol :D11:03
Captain_Redbeardquick question, how to add a user to MySQL? can't remember :/11:03
Phiwum2whois davin11:03
Sannemookid: :)11:03
goldfishhelp network please11:03
quietmiketech: no.11:03
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mookidI think my allready uber hungry firefox is about to explode11:03
vicscandl!network > goldfish11:03
miketechhm why not? :(11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:03
noobvicscandl: yeah i guess so because a lot of people have gotten it to work on xp11:03
goldfishhow do i network two ubuntu pc together11:03
vicscandl!networking > vicscandl11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:04
Sannemookid: lot's of tabs open, hehe. Me too.11:04
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mookid^^11:04
stefg!samba11:04
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:04
ompaul!nfs > goldfish11:04
Captain_Redbeard!mysql11:04
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP11:04
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quietmiketech: because it's not installed a virtual system... it's just another OS on the disc.11:04
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noob!weed11:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about weed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:04
Phiwum2Hey guys.  Ubuntu newbie here.  I have a version of Mythtv on my slackware box and I wanted to run a frontend on my ubuntu laptop, but there's a version mismatch (Ubuntu's is older).11:04
miketechok other way:11:04
noobjust trying something11:04
mookid!troll11:04
miketechinstall windows in xen11:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:04
miketechon the filesystem (not a image)11:04
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Phiwum2So I thought I'd compile from source, but then I lose the advantage of package system.11:04
miketechso the files are on the system11:04
noob!coca-cola11:04
stefg!botabuse11:04
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops11:04
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coca-cola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
miketechmaybe i can boot the system?11:05
|BiSHoP|Is there a text-mode installation program for Ubuntu (latest 6.0.x) using the LiveCD?11:05
tuxtuxnotte a tutti11:05
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Phiwum2How hard is it to create a package myself?11:05
TonrenDoes anyone know how to make Ubuntu take less than four months to boot up?11:05
quietmiketech: yes. if you have the ability to.. as has been discussed.11:05
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goldfishany ideas11:05
quietTonren: disable startup services??11:05
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noobphiwum2: are you talking about the alien package?11:05
stefgTonren: k7-CPU?11:05
jared777Okay i got ndiswrapper installed how do i tell my apps such as firefox to use eth1 while kismet uses eth211:05
miketechhm this would be great :)11:05
noob!sex11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
Tonrenstefg: What's that?11:06
bretzelcool -- using dvdshrink within VMWare::winxp pro11:06
quietTonren: mine doesn't boot slowly for a full featured desktop... granted.. not nearly as fast as Arch.. but it's not unbearable.11:06
Tonrenquiet: Can I do that by hunting around /etc/init.d11:06
jared777try man woman11:06
stefgTonren: AMD Athlon Xp+11:06
noob!woman11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about woman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:06
noob!shemale11:06
ompaulnoob sstop messing with the bot11:06
mookidnoob.. you're going to get banned11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shemale - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:06
Tonrenstefg: Windows boots up in like 15 seconds.  It takes Ubuntu about 2 minutes11:06
goldfishwhere are shared folders shown??????????/11:06
nooblol ok11:06
bretzellol11:06
noobompaul mookid sorry dudes11:06
Phiwum2noob: No.  I want to compile from source and create a new package11:06
mookiddont appologise to me I'm just a random tramp11:07
mookid:D11:07
vicscandlnoob, don't be one.11:07
noobphiwum2: oh use ./configure11:07
jrib!checkinstall > Phiwum211:07
stefgTonren: that's no answer to my question... it's just a (meaningless) statement11:07
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noobvicscandl: i have no intention of being a tramp lol11:07
Renan_s2anybody here has a GIMP 2.3.x package for Ubuntu?11:07
barataanybody please give me mplayer11:07
Tonrenstefg: OH, you were asking if I HAD one11:07
Tonrenstefg: No, I have an AMT Turion 6411:07
jribbarata: it is in the multiverse repository11:07
baratait's so hard to install it in ubuntu11:07
Tonrenstefg: But I'm running 32bit ubuntu11:07
ompaul!mplayer > barata11:08
noobvicscandl:  i just enjoy chattin shit to bots11:08
ompaulbarata, read that web page11:08
Phiwum2jrib: Thanks!11:08
barata!mplayer11:08
ubotumplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer11:08
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.11:08
ompaulbarata, the bot messaged you11:08
|BiSHoP|The X.org server on the LiveCD won't allow me to use resolutions higher than 640x480 (using the ATI Radeon Driver, which it uses automatically) ...  I can't get it to install properly using that resolution, is there any way around this (perhaps a text installation or forcing it to use the frame buffer driver instead)?11:08
noob!mounting > noob11:08
bfxl-eating how do I change the root password?  I forgot was it sudo root passwd ?11:08
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davin^zZzmcphail: you still here?11:08
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noob!mounting network shares >noob11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mounting network shares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:08
mcphaildavin^zZz: yes11:09
bluefusionxl how do I change the root password?  I forgot was it sudo root passwd ?11:09
ompaulnoob, msg the bot11:09
davin^zZzmcphail: is there a chance of auto pc shutdown or anything like that?11:09
barataI know, and I did that already ... but I dont know it refused to build ... and I dont feel like to go into the deps jungle11:09
jrib!sudo > bluefusionxl11:09
ladydoorbluefusionxl: sudo passwd root11:09
davin^zZzmcphail: letting my pc on for the night11:09
noobvicscandl:you wouldnt happen to know how to mount a networked windows share?>11:09
bluefusionxlthanks11:09
mcphaildavin^zZz: unlikely11:09
noobvicscandl:  at boot time11:09
stefgTonren: try to boot up without the 'quiet splash' parameters (thus no uplash), and see if it changes something. I had a strange 30 sec. delay with the stock kernel, which went away when I compiled my own11:09
TonrenSo, anyone have any hints on increasing bootup speed?  Mine's going REAL slow.11:09
davin^zZzmcphail: turned screensaver off just in case :-)11:09
mcphaildavin^zZz: my current uptime is 24 days11:09
ompaulladydoor, only say !root > don't go to that other place - let people read the page and leave it there11:09
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noob!root11:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:09
bluefusionxlthat wasn't needed jrib.  LOL11:09
davin^zZzmcphail: whoa, how big is your power bill? XD11:09
bluefusionxlI know what sudo does lol11:10
ladydoorompaul: well, this person asked how to change the root password, specifically11:10
bluefusionxlbut thanks11:10
Tonrenstefg: how do I change my boot parameters, anyway?11:10
barataheih, the mplayer page also doesnt exist11:10
bluefusionxland thanks ladydoor11:10
ompaulnoob, you have been asked once - message the bot11:10
ladydoorompaul: and sounds like zie knew before11:10
davin^zZzGood night people11:10
ladydoorbluefusionxl: np11:10
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jribbluefusionxl: yeah I think the command is somewhere on that page, or at least it used to be :P11:10
noobompaul: how do i do that..im a n00b11:10
ompaulladydoor, we don't do it, that info is on that page11:10
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vicscandlnoob: naw, like i said, i gave up on winblows 2 years ago.. ;)11:10
ompaul!register > noob11:10
iturkhi there is there any password for user root in ubuntu ??11:10
ladydoorompaul: ok, i'll keep that in mind. however, i su to root.11:10
ompaul!msgthebot > noob11:10
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ladydoor!root > iturk11:11
ompaulnoob, read the messages from the bot11:11
searaymancan i edit a gdesklet code and chang what the desklet looks a littl bit?11:11
noobvicscandl:  lol11:11
stefgTonren: press esc at boottime to enter grub's menu, then press c to be able to edit the line starting with 'kernel'.. remove the words quiet and splash from tha line, then press 'b' to boot with that edited parameter11:11
vdepizzolHow can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?11:11
bluefusionxliturk, there is not by default.  You have to set it with sudo passwd root11:11
jared777how can i tell if ndiswrapper installed correctly i am using 2 wifi cards11:11
Tonrenstefg: ah ok.  i wasn't sure if there was a way to do it from within linux.11:11
bluefusionxland your sudo password is your own password11:11
searaymancan i have hlep editing gdesklet code a little?11:12
ompauliturk, you actually don't need to use it11:12
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jbroome!botabuse > noob11:12
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iturkbluefusionxl: thanks11:12
bluefusionxlndiswrapper... ooh that's, imo, the most hard thing to use in linux.  But maybe it was because my card used prism and it cou ldnt connect wirelessly.11:12
ompauliturk, you can survive very well with http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:12
bluefusionxlI suggest you try linuxquestions.org for that11:13
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ompaul!ndiswrapper11:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:13
iturkompaul: to set up postgresql i need to add an user using su first then su postgres11:13
bluefusionxl!ndiswrapper11:13
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bluefusionxlQuestion:  Why do people even use PostgreSQL?  What's wrong with MySQL?11:13
mookypersonal preference11:14
mookypostgres had features mysql didn't - first11:14
stefgiturk: sudo -i or sudo -s gives you a root shell11:14
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ompauliturk, no :-) sudo apt-get install postgresql works and does the hard stuff including whatever you want then you can su that usename11:14
bluefusionxloh11:14
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quieti wish they would upgrade xmoto in the repos... the one there is REALLY old.11:14
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ompaulbluefusionxl, over one gig dbs are way faster on postgresql11:14
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iturkbluefusionxl: i have try both i can say mysql has problems with standard sql.11:14
eXistenZHow can I guarantee that only a certain group can open some directory?11:15
SqueeblesI'm trying to install Wine onto my AMD64 Ubuntu, can't find out how to find it...11:15
mookyeXistenZ: chmod11:15
mookyand chown11:15
goldfishsharing folders between 2 ubuntu machines???????????11:15
mookygoldfish: is that a question ?11:15
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noobompaul: how do i mount networked windows shares at boot time?11:15
mookyfstab11:15
mookyor autofs11:15
goldfishyes any help would be nice11:15
vicscandliturk: what standard sql problem did you have with mysql?11:15
mookygoldfish: look at samba11:15
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ompaul!ntfs > noob11:15
iturkompaul: if i just do su postgres it says not recognise command !!11:15
stefggoldfish: 2 options samba or nfs, which were both mentioned last time you asked, but you chose not to notice11:16
jordanXchat is not working correctly for me, I am using irssi right now.11:16
noobompaul: not on this hard drive...networked11:16
goldfishi thought samba was for windows11:16
ladydooriturk: you do sudo postgres11:16
mookynoob: samba11:16
ladydooriturk: not su postgres.11:16
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mookygoldfish: yes, you asked to connect to your windows network11:16
emergenti'm following the wpa how-to for dapper and it says that I can left click on the network manager icon and choose 'connect to other wireless network' but it's not there, any ideas?11:16
ompauliturk, try su - username11:16
noobmooky: what should i put in the /etc/fstab files11:16
goldfishno i want to connect 2 ubuntu machine together11:16
mookynoob: the server, the mount point, the mount options11:16
mookysame as a local drive11:17
iturkvicscandl: i had last year with table creations that had self incremental values !!11:17
goldfishnot ubuntu to windows11:17
mookygoldfish: nfs or samba then11:17
goldfishubuntu to ubuntu11:17
mookyyour choice11:17
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vicscandliturk: AUTO_INCREMENT?11:17
stefg!samba11:17
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:17
goldfishi have selected nfs11:17
mookyeither will work11:17
mookyok - great.11:17
ladydoor!sudo > iturk11:17
iturki already resolv it !! root has now a pass and all went well11:17
mookynfs them up then11:17
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goldfishbut cant find any shared folders on either desktop11:17
iturkvicscandl: yes11:17
|BiSHoP|Does anyone know what to put in the 'driver' entry in the xorg.conf file to use the framebuffer driver?11:17
baratawhere is the default folder for libjack0.80.0-0 for mplayer?11:17
Ric1can I ask a technical question about Ubuntu here?11:17
goldfishwhere do i look11:17
mookygoldfish: have you exported the shares11:17
stefggoldfish: samba is easier for beginners... install samba and smbfs11:17
mookydo you have all services runnign ?11:18
goldfishthanks for help by the way11:18
barataI just 'ln -s' libjack..so to that libjack0.80.0-011:18
SqueeblesI'm trying to install "Wine" onto my ubuntu AMD64, I downloaded a wine package.gz  is that right?11:18
emergentem let me clarify: the wnetwork-manager icon is there, but the option for connecting to wireless network isn't11:18
mookySqueebles: no11:18
iturkand thanks for the help !!11:18
NebularI want to mount the initrd image, what fs type would I use with the mount command?11:18
mookynot unless you wish to go around dpkg11:18
bluefusionxlanyone know how you accomlist "replace" with nano?11:18
stefgSqueebles: it's in the repos, so you could apt-get /if/ it would work in 64-bit :-)11:18
VegetaHow can I close an Adept application? Because I can't acces the "Add/Remove Programs" or Synaptic, because it says that some Adept Application is running. How do I know whta it is and kill it?11:18
bluefusionxlaccomplish *11:18
erUSULNebular: cramfs i guess (try with auto)11:18
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Squeeblesawesome, thought so.. thanks Stef11:19
bluefusionxlanyone know how you accomplish "replace" with nano?11:19
goldfishdo i get a network icon or anything11:19
mookySqueebles: you know it doesn't work 64 bit ?11:19
Ric1test11:19
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mookygoldfish: have you read anything on NFS ?11:19
bluefusionxlWhat's to test Ric1?11:19
bluefusionxllol it's an irc channel.  It works11:19
goldfishno im new to it all11:20
vicscandliturk: where you bringing in new data, or new table creation?11:20
|BiSHoP|Ric1: To answer your question: apparently not.  :)11:20
Ric1it's my new nickname11:20
mookygoldfish: then perhaps read up on it before using it ?11:20
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bluefusionxlI see11:20
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Ric1"mahler"11:20
vicscandliturk: sorry to be inquisitive... i'm an sql nutcase.11:20
bluefusionxlanyone know how you accomplish "replace" with nano?11:20
vicscandlbluefusionxl: ctrl-r ?11:20
iturkvicscandl: i reallly dont remember but i remember to send a bug report to mysql11:20
goldfishthis is why linux want get any where simple thing are to complex11:20
bluefusionxlvic, no that's append11:20
mookyits not complex11:20
SanneSqueebles: this might help you with amd64: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19120511:20
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ladydoorbluefusionxl: try control-\ or esc (or alt)-r11:20
mookyyou just have to read11:20
Ric1I'm here for a technical question: How do I change the resolution of the start-up loading screen from Ubuntu?11:20
ompaul!nfs11:20
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.11:20
mookythe same as you do with a new windows feature11:21
vicscandliturk: thanks. ;)11:21
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ladydoorbluefusionxl: and for future reference, you can press control-G to get help11:21
ladydooron commands11:21
stefggoldfish: Linus _is_ userfriendly, it's just picky about its friends :-)11:21
iturkvicscandl: i have learn first postgresql then i migrate to mysql and i had several problems11:21
nozorroRic1: i think it this is a known bug ...11:21
vicscandlbluefusionxl: i use vim, used to use nano11:21
Xenguybluefusionxl: ^-G  :P11:21
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bluefusionxlalt r worked, thanks :)11:21
vicscandliturk: postgres has some great features that took mysql until 5.0 to get solid.11:22
nozorroRic1: you might try playing with resolutions in xorg.conf though11:22
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iturkvicscandl: can you give me a email i can send you the database that i try to pass to mysql with a lot of problems11:22
maple1I like MS SQL11:22
ladydoorbluefusionxl: sweet.11:22
vicscandliturk: pastebin it11:22
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goldfishim not running a server just 2 client machine running ubuntu11:22
vicscandl!pastebin > iturk11:22
stefggoldfish: install smbfs, enter a line in /etc/fstab (which i can tell you when you're done) and that's it then... it's easier than in windows11:22
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mookygoldfish: then it will never work11:22
ompaulgoldfish, you have been asked to read the NFS page11:22
mookyyou need a server application11:22
bluefusionxlWhat is Edgy Elf?11:23
iturkvicscandl: ok i will try to put the information of that files on it wait ...11:23
Ric1Do you see me as Ric1 ?11:23
Phiwum2How do I get a list of installed packages?11:23
LightTitanhow do I kill my xserver so I can make graphic changes11:23
nozorroRic1: yep11:23
bluefusionxlI mean Edgy Eft11:23
XenguyRic1: yep11:23
mookythats how client server applications work11:23
vicscandliturk:  no worries, i'll be here all day.. ;)11:23
mcphailLightTitan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:23
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LightTitanmcphail thx11:23
erUSULLightTitan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:23
VegetaWhy can I now acces the Synaptic or Add/Remove Programs? It says another process is using the package system. How can I see wich process it is and kill it?11:23
livingdaylightI need to be 300%sure: does using the live cd installer not wipe the partitions if i don't select format, ev en though i click 'install'11:23
SqueeblesSanne: Thanks! that site helps a ton11:24
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SanneRic1: I read that the login screen takes the first resolution that is specified for you screen in xorg.conf.11:24
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Ric1hmm, Xgl crashes when using too much Shift and letters11:24
nozorroVegeta: cloick on sys monitor in panel to start system monitor ...11:24
iturkvicscandl: they are 8 files are you shore you dont have an email i will just zip them and send it in 3 seconds !!11:24
livingdaylightSeveas: hi, i'm in another fix11:24
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mcphailRic1: shift and backspace usually messes things up11:25
Vegetanozorro: And then?11:25
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SanneSqueebles: yeah, it's great. I run 32bit wine on amd64, works fine so far. Also check out the wiki for amd64 specific pages, great stuff there.11:25
Ric1that might be it mcphail11:25
nozorroVegeta: look for the offending program in the process list11:25
Vegetanozorro: Should I kill something called "adept notifier"?11:25
nozorroVegeta: maybe yes11:26
Frederickfolks wich is the package name for image magick libs in uvuntu?11:26
Ric1anyway... about my question to change the startup resolution. This is a known bug? What is the bug#? And playing with X.conf probably only changes the Desktop resolution11:26
mc__Frederick: apt-cache search imagemagick11:26
mookyno it doesn't11:26
stefg!info imagemagick11:26
ubotuimagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.2 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB11:26
mookyxorg changes your startup up11:26
ladydoorRic1: do you want to change the resolution during boot? is that your question?11:26
mookyimage11:26
mcphailFrederick: i'm sure there is a libimagemagick11:26
nozorroVegeta: right-click and use End or Kill11:26
SanneFrederick: or you can find out on packages.ubuntu.com11:26
mookyxorg controls anything x-related11:26
mookyor do you mean the bootsplash11:27
Vegetanozorro: I did.11:27
Ric1ladydoor: yes11:27
nozorroVegeta: try now to start synaptic11:27
Frederickfolks Ive installed it but it seems ubuntu package is broken11:27
ladydoorRic1: ok, you need to edit your menu.lst. do you knwo what resollution you want?11:27
Frederickat least I was unable to compile -> http://www.imagemagick.org/script/magick-wand.php11:27
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Ric1yes, 1200x160011:27
Vegetanozorro: It can't the same problem11:27
Ric1but any higher then 1024x768 will do ;)11:27
nozorroVegeta: error msg?11:27
w30Vegeta, on a terminal type ps aux | grep synaptic11:27
livingdaylightSeveas: need to reinstall grub. Using the live cd can i go through the installation process even though i  click 'install' andnot lose my data11:28
Frederickcan anyone please try itfor me?11:28
stefg!build > Frederick11:28
erUSUL!grub > livingdaylight11:28
Frederickstefg, ?11:28
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ladydoorRic1: *higher* than that??? i'm sorry, i don't know the vga setting11:28
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ladydoorRic1: but if you can find it, add to the kernel line in menu.list the command vga=somenumber11:29
Vegetaw30: What should that do=11:29
Frederickstefg, Ive installed the packages incluididng the dev ones and I know how to use gcc11:29
Ric1alright11:29
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LightTitan#nvidia11:29
Ric1and that number should correspond with 1024x768 somehow?11:29
stefgFrederick: why would you want to compile imagemagick if it's available in the repos?11:30
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ladydoorRic1: should correspond with whatever resolution you want. i know the one for 1024x768, but you said you wanted a higher one?11:30
w30Vegeta, it will give you the process number then type kill -9 thatnumber11:30
ladydoor*that was supposed to be a statement11:30
Vegetanozorro: The error msg is: Another process is using the package system database (probabaly some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). PLease close the other application before using this one".11:30
Frederickstefg, read carefully I don't want to compile the lib I want to use its c pai!11:30
Frederickapi11:30
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baratawhat is the apt command for installing a downloaded deb package?11:30
LightTitanwhen I try to run synaptic I get this error. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file, what the hell does that mean?11:30
barataapt-get something?11:30
w30Vegeta, the process number is the first number11:30
nozorroVegeta: look for that process and kill it like i said, or following w30's advice11:30
lotusleafbarata: sudo dpkg -i file.deb11:31
ladydoorbarata: sudo dpkg -i packagename11:31
iturkvicscandl: http://pastebin.ca/16543311:31
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Xenguybarata: apt-get install package11:31
Vegetaw30: It gives me "5460  0.0  0.1   2924   812 pts/4    S+   23:28   0:00 grep synaptic" :S11:31
baratathanks lotusleaf ladydoor & Xenguy11:31
ladydoorbarata: np11:31
lotusleafbarata: yw11:31
Ric1ladydoor: 1024x768 would be an improvement, but I'd like 1280x1024 actually, just like my desktop11:31
ladydoor!language > LightTitan11:31
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w30Vegeta, try kill -9 546011:31
stefgFrederick: ah, ok... then it's probably doc-reading time....11:31
biobhwello11:31
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Nebular.11:31
ladydoorahhh, ok. in the meantime, for 1024x768 you would use vga=79211:32
SanneRic1: table at end of page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer11:32
ladydoorRic1: ahhh, ok. in the meantime, for 1024x768 you would use vga=792, which works fine for me11:32
Frederickstefg, Ive googled, read man, sent mail to lists11:32
Phiwum2Is there an easy way to see how a package was configured at compile time?  I.e., what flags were sent to configure?11:32
nozorrow30: he wanted to start synaptic originally, not kill it11:32
ladydoorRic1: ah, actually, go to Sanne's link11:32
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Ric1795 .. great11:32
erUSULPhiwum2: no afaik,11:32
LightTitanThank you ladydoor... I will watch my mouth now. Now if only I could get some help with my problem11:32
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Ric1I'll try it right away :D11:32
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Sanneladydoor: :)11:32
Vegetaw30: Still the same. The error msg in Synaptic is: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "11:32
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Phiwum2erUSUL: Too bad.  Thanks.11:33
whazilla_http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html11:33
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whazilla_wrong versions11:33
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GimbliGood evening everybody11:33
mookyhello11:33
w30nozorro, maybe he has a zombie synaptic process running , if he kills all instances of synaptic then he can start a new one at the GUI11:33
Nebularok I tried mounting the initrd with cramfs, got the error, wrong magic11:33
erUSULPhiwum2: you can use ldd $(which <exec>) to see the libs a certain executable is linked to though11:34
mookyinitrd isn't cramfs11:34
Gimblihi mooky, how r u?11:34
mookyfine thank you11:34
nozorrow30: yes maybe11:34
erUSULPhiwum2: usefull to see if postfix has ssl support (it will be linked to openssl)11:34
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goldfishnearly there can see one machine now11:34
nozorrow30 but he didn't start synaptic (again) before i told him ...11:34
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Phiwum2erUSUL: Thanks again.  I'll try that.11:34
Nebularmooky: that seems to be the case, what fs is it?11:35
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mookyNebular: not sure off the top of my head11:35
mookyramfs ?11:35
erUSULPhiwum2: no problem11:35
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mookygoldfish: you can't have read the wiki yet11:35
Phiwum2erUSUL: And how do I determine which packages are installed and what they contain?11:35
Gimblisorry, that i ask so directly, but has anybody experienced problems with the saving dialog in edgy's open office?11:36
nozorrow30: maybe he should use the sys monitor, it's the easiest thing to do11:36
erUSULNebular: i mounted my initrd with -t auto11:36
nozorrow30 want to take over?11:36
ladydoorGimbli: #ubuntu+111:36
goldfishno fiddling and trial and error11:36
LightTitanTrying to run Synaptic... all I get is this error: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file... anyone have any clue what is wrong?11:36
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Gimblioops, ok ;)11:36
mookycheck your .xauth file11:36
Frederickdoes anyone here have magickwand installed and why able to link against it?11:36
mookygoldfish: PLEASE read the documentation11:36
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mookyor stop asking11:36
LightTitanmooky, where is that and what would I be checking for?11:37
whazilla_how do i get kernel sources11:37
Vegetanozorro and w30: I was running the installation of Sun Java but it crashed during the install, and I pressed the "x" and closed it, after that I couldn't open the synaptic or Add/remove...11:37
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whazilla_but version i have ?11:37
w30nozorro, you are doing fine, everyone knows more than me :=)11:37
mookyLightTitan: home dir11:37
whazilla_allso got a apt-get issue11:37
whazilla_http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html11:37
ladydoord11:37
ladydoorsorry11:37
NebularerUSUL: my system keeps asking to have the fs specified11:37
goldfishsorted all works11:38
nozorroVegeta: which program did you use for installation ?11:38
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Vegetanozorro:  I was installing it trhough Add/remove11:38
vicscandliturk: gimme a minute to review... may be interrupted by mini-me getting up from his nap.11:38
nozorroVegeta: pls pull up the sys monitor again11:38
james296how can I add more display resolutions to use on here using the terminal?11:38
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Vegetaok11:39
Ric1ladydoor / Sanne: It worked!11:39
james296you know that xorg.conf setup screen11:39
VegetaI have it up11:39
NebularerUSUL:  can you give me the exact syntax you're usung? and did you unzip the image or not (I've tried both ways)11:39
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[fields] how do I verify my firewire card is working?11:39
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LightTitanmooky, I just looked... there is no file there.11:39
baratashit .... my problem with mplayer is because I upgraded ubuntu11:39
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james296well??11:39
baratanow evertyhing is broken like shit11:39
iturkvicscandl: in pvt send me an email its much better to understand !!11:39
mookidAnyone know of any tutorials for getting amarok to run on ubuntu 64 ?11:39
ubuntuSome one have a clou how to upgrade xubuntu to ubuntu (i think i read this issue some where) so the link or page where i can find info should do the thing  Tnx in advance11:39
Vegetanozorro: What to do there?11:40
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james296can someone PLZ tell me?11:40
mookyprobably why it can't copy it11:40
vicscandliturk: you not get my /msg?11:40
nozorroVegeta if you have synaptic running and can't close it from the dekstop in the normal way ...11:40
stefgubuntu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:40
mookymookid: should be setup the same as 32bit11:40
w30Vegeta, "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gnome-app-install" is running when you use the add application program11:40
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james296hello?11:40
nozorroVegeta: kill it from the process list (right-click)11:40
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ubuntutnx stefg11:41
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erUSULNebular: the ones i was able to mount are the anes i create with mkinitrd the default ubuntu one is gzipped cpio archive11:41
erUSULones*11:41
w30Vegeta, use ps aux to see if you have a zombie running on that process11:41
Jowiwhat is the difference between prelink and preload?11:41
LightTitanmooky, I just looked... there is no file there.11:41
mookyas I said probably why it can't copy it11:41
iturkvicscandl: yes11:41
james296so how do I get to the setup screen to reset xorg.conf?11:41
nozorrow30: take over or wait it out pls. :-)11:41
mookyjames296: dpkg-reconfiugre xserver-xorg11:42
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LightTitanmooky, sorry I did not see that... so why did it just dissapear... should I make a blank one or what?11:42
mookydpkg-reconfigure11:42
Jowijames296: put a "sudo" infront of it as well11:42
fogossomeone knows a program to record video streaming11:42
Vegetanozorro: Non of the ones you mentioned are listed...11:42
mookyLightTitan: its normally confiugred at xstart11:42
fooHm, could I ghost a drive in knoppix with dd? dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. ?11:42
mookyx-start11:42
Jowisudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:42
LightTitanmooky, so might a reboot take care of it?11:42
nozorroVegeta: dpkg? apt? aptitude? adept?11:42
smoked1wow. I just installed ubuntu and got rid of that winbloze thing that I had and I have to say that they have done a great job. It works right out of the box on my laptop11:42
mookyLightTitan: possible11:43
Vegetaw30: IT gives me: 5577  0.0  0.1   2920   800 pts/4    R+   23:42   0:00 grep synaptic11:43
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nozorroVegeta also make sure you have All Processes checked under View in the Sys Monitor11:43
fokuslee!lspci11:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:43
stefgJowi: AFAIK preload just aplies to Gnome (using boot-waits to preload gnome stuff) while prelink is setting the libraries up for all apps, so they are already linked when thy start..11:43
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w30Vegeta, thats your grep process, no problem there synaptic is not running.11:44
erUSULNebular: you can "uncpio" it to see its contents afaik11:44
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GTXWhats a good tool for monitoring how much bandwidth im using in SSH?11:44
fokusleecan anyone help me with lspci?11:44
A-L-P-H-A'startx' won't start.  Says something about another session is in use, even though this is a fresh bootup.11:44
mookymrtg ?11:44
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vicscandliturk: are you receiving my /msg's?11:44
killownhow I get id high in amule?11:44
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Jack_Sparrowfokuslee: what about lspci -v11:45
Bee_Cuehey im new to linux .. i was just trying to install ubuntu on my laptop with the cd .. it goes to about 80% .. then the screen goes black and there is 2 white rectangles and it just stays ... some help please11:45
fooHm, could I ghost a drive in knoppix with dd? dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. ?11:45
Vegetanozorro: Ok, I'm viewing them all now, I'll try to see if I can find some of the ones you mentioned.11:45
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fokusleejack sparrow can i message u a lspci read out?11:45
mookyfoo: is this knoppix support ?11:45
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tronicwhat was the package name with make in it11:45
nozorroVegeta: kill'em11:45
Jack_Sparrowno11:45
foomooky: No. Is dd knoppix specific?11:45
Jowistefg: ah, so preload is not for me (no gnome here). you know, or guess, how ld.so.preload-manager package are? is it linked to "preload" for gnome or is it self-contained?11:45
mookyfoo: no its not11:45
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foomooky: Then? :P11:46
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stefgBee_Cue: are you positive that your CD is error-free?11:46
Jack_Sparrowfokuslee: Just put it in pastebin and someone will look at it11:46
mookythen ask in knoppix11:46
mookyor man it11:46
tronictheres a package you need to get to enable the 'make' command can anyone recall what it's called11:46
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PhantasyHawkCan someone help me with installing a video driver?11:46
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whazilla_http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html11:46
Vegetanozorro: Should I seach under proces name or Parameter?11:46
Bee_Cueyea .. i ran that test first .. i could try again i guess11:46
jerwarehi how do i get the man pages for C system calls/library calls ?11:46
fokusleeJack what is pastebin?11:46
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Jack_Sparrowdd is any distro11:46
whazilla_http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html11:46
GTXWhats a good tool for monitoring how much bandwidth im using in SSH?11:46
whazilla_this is a nopaste11:46
nozorroVegeta process name of course if you want to see the name. you can sort the list at the top11:46
Jack_Sparrow!paste > fokuslee11:46
mookyGTX: mrtg11:47
mookyas I said earlier11:47
fokuslee!paste11:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:47
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GTXI said in SSH mooky not httpd11:47
fokusleethx11:47
PhantasyHawkCan someone help me out with installing a video driver?11:47
mookyyou can use mrtg for any network service11:47
GTXYes, but I want to have a live update per second in sssh11:47
GTXssh*11:47
Jack_Sparrowfokuslee:  You should have had a msg from Ubotu11:47
jerwarehow can a linux distro not have C call's man pages11:47
mookyntop11:47
whazilla_mooky can u have a look at my package configuration11:47
mookywhazilla_: why ?11:48
whazilla_http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html11:48
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smoked1Whats a good mail client? Is evolution mail the best one?11:48
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nozorroVegeta: another one to search for is gnome-app-install11:48
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stefgJowi: no clue... i just vaguely remember reading about preload a looonnnggg time ago and found that it's installed by default in ubuntu-dapper (to spped up gnome start)11:48
fokusleeyeah got it thx11:48
Jack_Sparrow!best11:48
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.11:48
Bee_Cueso anyone know? .. cuz my windows doesnt work now either :(11:48
fokusleeand how do i talk to u11:48
whazilla_it says configuration errors and i don't kno what todo about11:48
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NebularerUSUL:  ok I don't have uncpio. basically what I'm trying to do is run bootcdwrite. but it needs you to run bootcdmkinitrd. and that causes my system to start usin discoaver which takes 15+ minuts (it's old). I'm trying to avoid making a new initrd with the bootcd script11:48
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smoked1most features11:48
fokusleei mean when u talk to me it says jack-sparrow fokuslee11:48
fokusleei want to do dat too11:48
PhantasyHawkCan someone help me out with installing a video driver?11:48
mookywhazilla_: put the configuration errors in the pastebin11:48
Jack_Sparrowfokuslee: Just post the link in here when you are done and someone will look at it11:48
Jowistefg: ok. thanks for the info. I will make some research :)11:48
whazilla_http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html11:48
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GTXmooky. Installed now what11:48
mookyGTX - run it ?11:49
mookyperhaps read up on it before using it /11:49
GTXI have..11:49
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fokusleeyeah thx11:49
GTXWhere I view it?11:49
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fokusleebut now did u do that11:49
fokusleei mean just talk to me with my name after urs11:49
erUSULNebular: is 'cpio --extract -I initrd.img' (once you have gunzipped it)11:49
whazilla_mooky u seen the link ?11:49
Jack_Sparrowfokuslee: It is called tab completion...  type the first few letters and hit tab11:49
mookyyes11:49
fokusleeoh thx11:49
erUSULNebular: do it in an empty temp directory11:49
fokusleeJack_Sparrow,11:49
fokusleei c i c11:49
fokusleelol thx11:49
Jack_Sparrownp11:49
mookywhazilla_: sorry - I can't read your langauge11:49
Nebularcool, thanks11:49
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Vegetanozorro: I can't find any of them. But on process called getty are listed 6 times? Is that normal?11:50
whazilla_:$11:50
whazilla_it's all semi englisch11:50
PhantasyHawkCan someone tell me what kernel modules I might be needing to install a video driver?  Im trying to install one, and it says it cant install without the latest kernel modules.11:50
whazilla_all importent stuff is englisch11:50
stefgVegeta: yes, 6 terminals is standard for linux11:50
fooCan I ghost a hard drive with dd? I am doing dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 ...11:50
mookywhazilla_: no its not11:50
nozorroVegeta: the getty processes are normal. they open your virtual consoles11:50
mookyfoo: ask in knoppix11:50
mookyas requested11:50
mookyor man dd11:50
whazilla_just look @ error11:50
Vegetaok11:50
mookyas requested11:50
foomooky: I'm on ubuntu11:50
mookywhazilla_: I just have - hence why I'm telling you11:50
lupine_85foo: should work fine11:50
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mookyfoo: then why are you asking about knoppix11:50
whazilla_kk11:50
foolupine_85: Thanks, that's the reasurrance I needed.11:51
Jack_SparrowPhantasyHawk: What video card, different people have different experience with the different cards.. ATI and Nvidia are the most popular11:51
lupine_85rdiff would be a better way to do it, though11:51
smoked1What mail client do you guys use with Ubuntu?11:51
lupine_85incremental backups++11:51
mookywhazilla_: I can't understand the language11:51
foomooky: Because I felt like it? Dude, dd isn't knoppix specific. Chill11:51
mookyfoo: so ask in knoppix11:51
whazilla_i'll pastebin the importent stuff11:51
nozorroVegeta: pls do this in a terminal 'ls -la /var/lib/dpkg/lock' and tell me the output11:51
mookythis isn't knoppix support11:51
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foomooky: I did.11:51
PhantasyHawkJack: Its a stock intel card11:51
mookywhazilla_: I can see what you've pasted11:51
Jack_SparrowI81011:51
mookybut I can't understand it11:51
foolupine_85: Same command, eh? No extra params? I don't thinkn so11:51
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mookyfoo: man it !11:51
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mookyor ask in knoppix11:51
lupine_85smoked1: thunderbird :)11:51
mookythis isn't knoppix support11:52
foomooky: I asked in knoppix.11:52
lupine_85foo: true enough11:52
fooheh11:52
foolupine_85: thanks11:52
smoked1lupine_85, thanks I think I will give that one a shot11:52
lupine_85mooky: distro turf wars are a bit silly, don't you think?11:52
Vegetanozorro: The output:  -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2006-09-09 23:50 /var/lib/dpkg/lock11:52
mookylupine_85: this channel is busy enough with knoppix support without people asking for knoppix support in here11:52
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mookyits not turf wars, its respecting the topic in the channel11:52
dragonriotanyone here done a 2.6.17.13 kernel yet today??11:52
Jack_SparrowIf someone has a question about dd, I dont care what distro he is using..11:53
baratadid the last official upgrade also upgrade jackd11:53
foohaha.11:53
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finalbeta Someone knows a tool like wget that can download from ftp but supports SSL?11:53
whazilla_k mooky ... but error == fout and ongeconfigureerd == unconfigured11:53
whazilla_that's only important words11:53
whazilla_http://rafb.net/paste/results/jz4vhx51.html11:53
mookywhazilla_: why are you not listening - I can't understand the language11:53
PhantasyHawkJack: Its an integrated intel graphics card - I have all the drivers untarred, but I get an error message when I try to install - it says it cant find a kernel config file11:53
mookyand thats NOT the only important line11:53
whazilla_i'll translate11:53
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foolupine_85: Thanks. It's not outputing anything. I was trying to find a verbose mode in the man page, no go. Blah. It's a 20GB drive11:53
nozorroVegeta: ok do this and then post the resulting text file to pastebin. if you don't know pastebin, ask me first for a link. this is the command to do in a terminal: 'ps aux > processes.txt'11:54
Jack_SparrowPhantasyHawk: Did you search the Ubuntu Wiki for intel vido info..11:54
smoked1I am new to linux. Would it be unwise to remove evolution mail?11:54
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lupine_85foo: you can send a SIGHUP (IIRC) to it to get it to print out it's status11:54
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mookysmoked1: depends if you want to connect to outlook11:54
lupine_85might not be a SIGHUP, though11:54
Paddy_EIRE_can anyone name any good freeware games like tremulous11:54
foolupine_85: oh, hmm11:54
mookyexachange sorry11:54
lupine_85google knows :)11:54
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smoked1Why the hell would I want to do that?11:54
erUSULPaddy_EIRE_: enemy territory11:54
stefgsmoked1: no, actually it's wise to get rid of it :-)11:54
lupine_85enemy territory++11:54
smoked1exchange servers are the devil11:54
fokusleePaddy_EIRE, forzen bubbles11:54
PhantasyHawkJack: Thats where I got links to drivers and basic information - the only information it has on install is just the command to run the install file, it assumes everything will go fine11:54
lupine_85turned into true combat: elite - +++++++++++++==11:55
Paddy_EIRE_<erUSUL>thats freeware? and it runs on Ubuntu??11:55
smoked1give me postfix over exchange any day11:55
lupine_85Paddy_EIRE_: freeware, GPL and works perfectluy11:55
mookysmoked1: ok - this isn't a "show how leet I am"11:55
whazilla_http://www.worldlingo.com/SH0gfCf2o9dNAktaqxFD0LIgenNjuBqms/translate11:55
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jared777This is by far the best distribution so far I am in love with the package manager if only I could play all my games on it11:55
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Paddy_EIRE_ <lupine_85>cool11:55
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lupine_85true combat: elite is more realistic, though - so more fun (in my eyes!)11:55
Paddy_EIREno i havent11:55
whazilla_mooky u c translate above ?11:56
smoked1mooky, ok then Ill use exchange just for you :(11:56
Paddy_EIREhow come it says i quit :/11:56
Jack_SparrowPhantasyHawk: Is this whay you typed in terminal  # sudo apt-get install 915resolution11:56
Vegetanozorro: Should I just copy the result from the terminal? Because I don't know where the txt is..11:56
Jack_Sparrowwhat11:56
SannePhantasyHawk: to compile a kernel-module, you'll need some kernel source files, called the headers. Search for the package name with: apt-cache search linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:56
Vegetanozorro: nvm i find it11:56
Vegetafound*11:56
mookysmoked1: I wasn't asking you to use exchange, you asked if its wise - I said depends if you want to use it, you then went off on a "microsoft is the devil speach"11:56
Jack_SparrowPhantasyHawk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver11:56
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smoked1:(11:57
nozorroVegeta: txt file should be in current working directory, probably home dir. you can also post the output, just make absolutely sure the *entire* output11:57
Vegetanozorro: Can you provide link to pastebin, I dont have it..11:57
Jack_Sparrow!paste > Vegeta11:57
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foolupine_85: Hm, any ideas on how long this might take? It's a 20GB drive ... about 1GB free.11:57
PhantasyHawkThanks Jack and Sanne - Ill try out your suggestions and get back to you in a few11:57
mookydepends on your bus speed11:57
nozorroVegeta: look for what comes next after my nick: ...11:57
nozorro!pastebin11:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:57
nozorroVegeta: got it?11:57
whazilla_http://www.worldlingo.com/SH0gfCf2o9dNAktaqxFD0LIgenNjuBqms/translate mooky in englisch11:58
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Vegetanozorro: Yeah, but the wired ting is that the txt file is empty11:58
erUSULPaddy_EIRE: yes freeware and runs in ubuntu11:58
fokusleeVegeta, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.or11:58
fokusleeVegeta, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:58
whazilla_crap i hate worldlingo11:58
dragonriotanyone here other than myself running ubuntu on a zd8000 laptop?11:58
nozorroVegeta: really? then post the entire output of 'ps aux'11:58
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Paddy_EIRE<erUSUL> thats pretty damn cool11:59
ladydoorso when i'm trying to use gnomebaker to burn some ogg files to an audio cd i get an error telling me i don't have the proper plugin installed; i get the same error for a wav file. when i did apt-cache search gnomebaker, gnomebaker itself was the only package that came up11:59
Paddy_EIRE<erUSUL> i love that game11:59
SannePhantasyHawk: I just read (as you probably also are) that you won't need the headers, because appearantly your driver is available in the dapper repositories.11:59
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lupine_85 foo: using dd - probably most of the night11:59
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NebularerUSUL:  ok tried that, got the error --link is meaningless with --extract12:00
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jared777wohoo my flash drive still works after going through the washer12:00
lupine_85if you used rdiff, about the same amount of time the first time round... future passes would be much, much faster12:00
ladydoorand libvorbis & libvorbis-dev are both installed, of course12:00
lupine_85(hence why I prefer it :) )12:00
mcphailPaddy_EIRE: http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/12:00
Vegetanozorro: Here is a link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2302312:00
smoked1When I try to remove evolution mail from synaptic it tells me that it will also remove ubuntu-desktop. I am quite sure that I want to keep that.12:00
bluefusionxl!source-o-matic12:00
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:00
PhantasyHawkSanne: Yeah, I just read that, but when I tried that command, I got an error message after it worked for a few seconds12:00
nozorroVegeta: ok, now let me have a close look and wait pls.12:00
lupine_85smoked1: it's a metapackage. quite safe to remove12:00
[fields] I just installed a Firewire card.  How can I tell that its recognized?  Can anyone recommend DV Camcorder capture software?12:00

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