[12:01] <whazilla> sethk i got ubuntu live dvd
[12:01] <sethk> whazilla, yes, I know, and you are trying to mount a partition on your disk drive?
[12:01] <whazilla> k hda
[12:01] <whazilla> is thera probe tool ?
[12:02] <Blak`Mamba> !google nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <sethk> whazilla, yes, but there are easier ways.
[12:02] <sethk> whazilla, from the command line, try this:
[12:02] <whazilla> tell me
[12:02] <nozorro> !nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <whazilla> i fucked up trying to set paths for eclipse
[12:02] <bamzin> !flash
[12:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[12:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:02] <sethk> whazilla, fsck -n /dev/hda1
[12:03] <rapha> Hi all!
[12:03] <sethk> whazilla, and paste the output of that to the paste web site.
[12:03] <rapha> Does somebody know if Ubuntu patches its Dapper kernel with Linux-PHC?
[12:03] <harleypig> afm\colo: looks like I have to run make (and make test) first as well
[12:03] <whazilla> k i'll join on diff nick
[12:03] <fatbrain> Hello, do I need a software firewall, and if so, which should I get?
[12:03] <afm\colo> harleypig: you use checkinstall instead of make install, yes
[12:03] <harleypig> so it's really to replace the sudo make install with a debian package?
[12:03] <nozorro> fatbrain: no, if you don't install server programs
[12:03] <afm\colo> fatbrain: no, you don't need such a thing
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall > fatbrain
[12:04] <afm\colo> and if you would, there is always netfilter
[12:04] <fatbrain> Thanks.
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> fatbrain: For normal use you dont need to bother
[12:04] <whazilla> it says
[12:04] <fatbrain> yes, thanks, I only have like a ftp server that I and my only friend uses.... hah!
[12:04] <whazilla> could this be a zero-length partition
[12:04] <whazilla> o0
[12:05] <whazilla> after saying superblock read error
[12:05] <whazilla> sethk
[12:05] <OmniD> Hi!!!
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> fatbrain: Firestarter or Guarddog are both good IPTable managers
[12:06] <sethk> whazilla, hmm.  do this and put it on the paste site also:    fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:07] <whazilla> fdisk line just returns to bash
[12:07] <whazilla> without output
[12:07] <sethk> whazilla, it can't.  the command is:    fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:07] <bluefox83> whazilla, man fsck.ext3
[12:07] <whazilla> ah
[12:08] <sethk> bluefox83, he's not sure of the file system type.  that's why I told him to do fsck, not fsck.ext3
[12:08] <afm\colo> dmesg | grep "[sh] d[a-z] "
[12:08] <fatbrain> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks.
[12:08] <sethk> bluefox83, fsck will automatically determine the file type,
[12:08] <PathagenX> HEY! bluefox83 XD
[12:08] <afm\colo> to see what disks actually are there
[12:08] <whazilla> bluefox83 it returns fsck version and returns to bash
[12:08] <sethk> bluefox83, unless it's utterly borked  :)
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> fatbrain: Any time... Just ask
[12:08] <jake1> how can i get more resolutions for my display?
[12:08] <sethk> whazilla, ok, first you said it did nothing (false).  now you say something else.  Just paste the output to the paste site, so we can see what it really does.
[12:08] <bluefox83> sethk, actually if it's not ext3 it will tell him and then exit :p
[12:09] <jake1> it's using the vesa driver
[12:09] <jake1> but my card is a SiS M760GX
[12:09] <PathagenX> whazilla, unmount the disk (if you can) and then fsck -a /dev/hda1
[12:09] <whazilla> sethk i got one extended
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: Post your xorg to the pastebin so we can see what video setup you have
[12:09] <sethk> bluefox83, true, but it's still better to do it the other way, because he'll find out what it is, not just what it isn't.
[12:09] <whazilla> one linux and one linux lvm
[12:09] <sethk> whazilla, some reason you can't paste it to the paste site?
[12:09] <jake1> Jack_Sparrow: where is my xorg
[12:09] <jake1> ?
[12:09] <whazilla> yah
[12:10] <whazilla> on diff pc
[12:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup makes a backup)
[12:10] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:10] <bamzin> hi there. i'm having some trouble when trying to run any flash movie/animation/youtube video on my firefox. when a page has a flash the browser suddenly closes without noticing.. im using dapper drake, anyone can help me?
[12:10] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> what does the Load "dri" stand for in the xorg.conf
[12:10] <PathagenX> jake1, xorg settings files are in /etc/X11. xorg files are all in /usr/X11**
[12:10] <sethk> whazilla, ok.  if you have lvm running, you will have a hard time trying to use if from the live cd.  why in the world are you using lvm when you have only one disk?
[12:10] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> because its not in the example
[12:10] <lupine_85> fuzzyNeedsHelp: direct rendering interface
[12:11] <WelfareQueen> Any web developers here?
[12:11] <lupine_85> you don't generally need it - you normally use glxi nstead
[12:11] <PathagenX> WelfareQueen, Yo
[12:11] <fuzzyNeedsHelp> could that be cousing my dualscreen not to work?
[12:11] <kditty> i have a folder on my desktop that i have pictures in that i want to delete, but i dont have privlages to do so. how do i cahnge that?
[12:11] <sethk> WelfareQueen, sure.
[12:11] <jake1> actually i gotta go now........ sorry..... i'll figure this out later
[12:11] <jake1> but i'll paste the output to pastebin anyways
[12:11] <jake1> !pastebin
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus --no-desktop/media      Use with care...
[12:12] <lupine_85> fuzzyNeedsHelp: it probably isn'y anything to do with it, but it wouldn't hurt to commend the lines out instead
[12:12] <lupine_85> comment*
[12:12] <lupine_85> erm, s/instead/anyway
[12:12] <zorlac> Is there a way to run custom commands on boot?
[12:12] <WelfareQueen> I was wondering how Digg and other sites have the article names as the URL with no page reference. It would seem you would need a folder for every story but that doesn't sound right. Is ther some kind of lookup they do?
[12:12] <bluefox83> yes
[12:12] <lupine_85> zorlac: /etc/rc2.d
[12:12] <zorlac> thanks
[12:12] <jake1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22955
[12:12] <afm\colo> rather /etc/rc.local @ zorlac
[12:13] <lupine_85> see existing scripts for examples
[12:13] <jake1> Jack_Sparrow there it is
[12:13] <bnovc> I've tried to install ubuntu on a friend's laptop that currently has a copy of windows on it, I assumed the installer would resize the windows partition and use the remaining space (which it says it will) but it says "not enough space to install" or something similar to that
[12:13] <bnovc> WelfareQueen: mod_rewrite in apache
[12:13] <afm\colo> WelfareQueen: possibly rewrite rules
[12:13] <jake1> seemingly the max is 1024x768
[12:13] <lupine_85> when does rc.local get called?
[12:13] <whazilla> so can u pm me a way to mount the lvm in write permission somehow ?
[12:13] <whazilla> ^^
[12:13] <jake1> mine goes slightly higher
[12:13] <bluefox83> what do you want it to do on bootup? make the floopy drive spit fireworks and play stars and stripes?
[12:13] <jake1> but i'm not sure of the max
[12:13] <afm\colo> at the end of the default runlevel, lupine_85
[12:13] <lupine_85> ah, cool
[12:13] <sethk> WelfareQueen, I'm not sure exactly what you mean.  paste one of the URLs.  If it's one line, you can paste it here, more than one line paste on the paste web site
[12:13] <lupine_85> that's handy to know
[12:13] <bnovc> sethk: he means mod_rewrite
[12:14] <WelfareQueen> mod_rewrite! I shall look it up
[12:14] <burk> where in the repos are the urxvt debs?
[12:14] <zorlac> rc.local automaticly runs, i hope, and anything i type is equivilant to typing it into terminal?
[12:14] <erUSUL> !info urxvt
[12:14] <afm\colo> urxvt rules supreme.
[12:14] <ubotu> Package urxvt does not exist in any distro I know
[12:14] <WelfareQueen> sethk - http://www.digg.com/tech_news/A_Reality_Check_for_Vista_A_Day_Late_A_Dollar_Short
[12:14] <afm\colo> zorlac: yes, it's a mere shellscript.
[12:14] <zorlac> do i have to sudo, afa?
[12:14] <WelfareQueen> I assume "A_Reality_Check_for_Vista_A_Day_Late_A_Dollar_Short" is not a folder
[12:15] <MystaMax> anyone using swiftfox on a Intel dualcore?
[12:15] <sethk> WelfareQueen, that's just a file named A_Reality_..._Short.html
[12:15] <whazilla> :$
[12:15] <afm\colo> zorlac: commands run by init are run in the context of root
[12:15] <erUSUL> !info rxvt-unicode
[12:15] <ubotu> rxvt-unicode: RXVT-like terminal emulator with Unicode support. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-1 (dapper), package size 994 kB, installed size 2320 kB
[12:15] <zorlac> thanks
[12:15] <burk> thanks erUSUL
[12:15] <RMorris85> what is the best usb 2.0 tv tuner card to use in ubuntu? anybody got any experience with such on a laptop
[12:15] <WelfareQueen> So Digg has hunderds of thousands of files. One for each story?
[12:15] <erUSUL> burk: yw
[12:15] <Fuzz> this is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22956
[12:15] <jake1> 1280x800 is the max
[12:15] <jake1> i think
[12:15] <sethk> WelfareQueen, that's the usual way to do it, yes.
[12:15] <Fuzz> im trying to get dualscreen to work again
[12:16] <jake1> something like that
[12:16] <cello_rasp> how do i check which ports i have open?
[12:16] <Fuzz> but its just not working anymore
[12:16] <sethk> WelfareQueen, better than thousands of directories  :)
[12:16] <afm\colo> WelfareQueen: no
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: Yes you are running vesa driver, I did find this link that may be of some help..  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57430
[12:16] <whazilla> sethk i will post tomorrow
[12:16] <whazilla> to tired now
[12:16] <afm\colo> it has a RDBS unter its hood
[12:16] <sethk> whazilla, k
[12:16] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, would you happen to know how i can gain write access to my hard drive? its hooked up and working and i can read it but i just cat write to it because i dont have privlages
[12:16] <lupine_85> sethk: but not as good as a structured directory tree ;)
[12:16] <afm\colo> take a look at Ruby On Rails, it implements a similar concept
[12:16] <sethk> lupine_85, true ... :)
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: IS it ntfs?
[12:17] <rc55> Hi - I've got four new drives I've added to my ubuntu install. They are formatted, and they have mount points in /mnt, however I cannot write to them unless I am root, how do I change permissions so I can write to them?
[12:17] <jake1> thanx Jack_sparrow
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: Wish I could do more
[12:17] <sethk> cello_rasp, netstat -na | egrep '^tcp'
[12:17] <erUSUL> rc55: in fstab add the option user
[12:17] <agenteo> anybody here installed vim7 on dapper?
[12:18] <jake1> that's ok
[12:18] <jake1> i cnt do more right now anyways
[12:18] <sethk> cello_rasp, to get just listeners:
[12:18] <jake1> thanx anyways
[12:18] <sethk> cello_rasp, netstat -na | egrep '^tcp' | grep LISTEN
[12:18] <Fuzz> this is my xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22956 . Can someone tell me what im doing wrong? I'm trying to get dualmonitor to work.
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: Do you know the format of the drive you want to write to?  Is it your XP install?
[12:18] <agenteo> I've followed a doc to backport it from edgy but the build screw up..
[12:18] <erUSUL> !info vim
[12:18] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is important. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 541 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[12:18] <cello_rasp> very neat. must learn how to use pipes. thanks sethk
[12:19] <WelfareQueen> So to sum up: its thousands of files and not mod_rewrite which allows you change the URL on the fly?
[12:19] <erUSUL> agenteo: you have vim 7 in the Seveas repo
[12:19] <erUSUL> !seveas > agenteo
[12:19] <rc55> erUSUL: thanks, I'm rebooting now :)
[12:19] <harleypig> afm\colo: thanks for putting up with my questions ... checkinstall is failing because no version is put in ... if the currently installed version is 0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 would I be safe in doing 0.svn20060908-personal1 ?
[12:19] <afm\colo> harleypig: as checkinstall packages lack dependency infos, you should not care too much
[12:19] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, its its extended 3 no xp on the drive now
[12:20] <dade`> someone who has a macbook with ubuntu here ?
[12:20] <afm\colo> i'd just call it mplayer-svn or whatever
[12:20] <erUSUL> rc55: no need to reboot just remount the disks
[12:20] <bluefox83> Fuzz, you have input device info in your server layout..
[12:20] <Qvazzler> I can't hear my mic in teamspeak, it seems like I have muted everything. I know the mic is working but I know that I have tampered abit with my sound settings. Is there any way to reset my sound configuration?
[12:20] <harleypig> afm\colo: I see, thanks.
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: So it is an EXT3 other than your Ubuntu install correct?
[12:20] <kditty> yes
[12:21] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[12:21] <afm\colo> Qvazzler: remocing /etc/asound.state should do it
[12:21] <Fuzz> bluefox83:  what kind of info should there be?
[12:21] <phyburn_> should I do anything special if I am trying to install ubuntu on a SATA drive? Because I keep getting kernel panics
[12:21] <Qvazzler> afm\colo: do I reboot after that?
[12:21] <bluefox83> Fuzz, server output info..not keyboard info..
[12:21] <phyburn_> I am using the 6.06 installer
[12:21] <rc55> erUSUL: It didn't work, can I paste you the fstab lines privately?
[12:21] <rixxon> does dapper include SELinux?
[12:21] <afm\colo> Qvazzler: relogin should suffice
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup)
[12:21] <harleypig> afm\colo: fyi, it needs a number in the version
[12:22] <bluefox83> Fuzz, you need to sort your info correctly, your keyboard info wont tell it how to handle the screen..so it's pointless to have it there
[12:22] <erUSUL> rc55: use a pastebin and post here the url
[12:22] <afm\colo> harleypig: ah ok
[12:22] <afm\colo> i usually don't use distros using either of those formats ;)
[12:22] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, the line reads "/dev/hdd1 /media/storage ext3  defaults 0 0" right now
[12:22] <Fuzz> ahh ic
[12:22] <harleypig> afm\colo: thanks again for the    help
[12:22] <Fuzz> it was in the example like that so i just put it in
[12:22] <rc55> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/164733
[12:23] <afm\colo> you're welcome
[12:23] <phyburn_> does anyone know if I should do some thing special if I am installing ubuntu on a SATA drive with ver 6.06.1 LTS
[12:23] <lupine_85> phyburn_: just replace all references to hd?? with sd??
[12:23] <rc55> phyburn_: I didn't have to do anything special
[12:23] <lupine_85> that's it
[12:23] <Qvazzler> afm\colo: cant find asound.state
[12:23] <sethk> phyburn_, if you are installing grub on an IDE drive, then no
[12:23] <andres> hi
[12:23] <phyburn_> lupine_85 how do I do that. THe reason I ask is because i keep getting kernel panics
[12:24] <sethk> phyburn_, that's a serious problem.
[12:24] <Fuzz> bluefox83:  so getting rid of that keyboard and mous info should make it work then?
[12:24] <phyburn_> unable to mount root fs on unknown block
[12:24] <sethk> phyburn_, there are some sata chipsets with problems
[12:24] <lupine_85> phyburn_: it wouldn't affect that, at all
[12:24] <lupine_85> dodgy driver, more likely
[12:25] <bluefox83> Fuzz, might..i've never done the ati setup for dual monitor support
[12:25] <lupine_85> try updating to a later kernel and see what happens
[12:25] <Fuzz> well i have, but i had to redo it
[12:25] <Fuzz> and im still not sure about half of what im doing
[12:25] <bluefox83> Fuzz, just sort it out..put the keyboard and mouse info in their respective places...
[12:25] <phyburn_> okay thanks
[12:25] <Fuzz> but i seem to get it to work in the end
[12:25] <lostinc> Is there an easy way to update to gnoe 2.16?
[12:25] <lupine_85> if that fails, your best bet is to report a fault with the Ubuntu kernel team
[12:25] <Qvazzler> how do I reset alsamixer?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> lostinc: nope
[12:25] <lupine_85> lostinc: wait until edgy is stable? :)
[12:26] <liquidten2> lostinc: Absolutely not.
[12:26] <lin_christy> hi my sound just randomly stopped working... i tried to adjust it in every way shape and form as i can but nothing... can someone help?
[12:26] <erUSUL> rc55: my aproach to the problem was wrong, sorry. better make with sudo dirs in the partitions and make them writtable by users (give permision to the group users or your own user)
[12:26] <lupine_85> !gnome in edgy
[12:26] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.2.3 (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:26] <gnomefreak> lostinc: wait untill edgy is released
[12:26] <Fuzz> it is actually.. its just a referrence
[12:26] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: !gnome edgy
[12:26] <lostinc> is it that much better then 2.14
[12:26] <lupine_85> ah :)
[12:26] <FuzzyLaptop> but ok
[12:26] <lupine_85> !gnome edgy
[12:26] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:27] <iliketoprogram> can anyone suggest a good page for getting devc++(bloodshed) or another good C++ ide running on ubuntu?
[12:27] <lupine_85> bugs--
[12:27] <FuzzyLaptop> nope that didnt do the trick
[12:27] <rc55> erUSUL: Sorry, I'm not clear what you mean. Are you suggesting I chmod the mount points?
[12:27] <FuzzyLaptop> nope that didnt do the trickgui
[12:27] <FuzzyLaptop> but atleast it didnt crash my GUI
[12:27] <erUSUL> iliketoprogram: kdevelop, anjuta, vdk builder... *emacs*
[12:28] <sethk> iliketoprogram, I use anjuta, which is in the ubuntu repositories
[12:28] <bluefox83> FuzzyLaptop, read your xorg logs, they will point you to the problem, then google for the solutions :)
[12:28] <livingdaylight> using cfdisk how do i assign sdb to partition rather than sda. It comes up with sda but i want to partition sdb
[12:28] <JDahl> iliketoprogram, I dont use it, but I think eclipse has a fairly advanced c++ plugin
[12:29] <iliketoprogram> thanks erUSUL!   also, thank you sethk!   I have kdevelop, i'll bugger with it... and I'll install anjuta and check it out =)     emacs is ok but i really enjoy extensive file system interface, as well as autocomplete and easy linking, etc
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: I want to say 0 2 not 0 0 but I dont have a second ext3 to try
[12:29] <iliketoprogram> JDahl, thanks =)  i just installed eclipse and was like, 'hey, it's for java!' -  I'll check out the plugin
[12:29] <erUSUL> rc55: with the option user you can manually mount the part. and if you do so with your user you will be able to write to it. problemis that the partitions get mounted on boot with root privs. My sugestion is that you create folders on the mounted partitions with sudo and make them wirtable by any user
[12:29] <sethk> iliketoprogram, kdevelop has some good features.  eclipse is also good, but better at java than at c++
[12:30] <nozorro> livingdaylight: 'cfdisk /dev/sdb'
[12:30] <livingdaylight> thx,  nozorro
[12:30] <iliketoprogram> looks like i'll have to dig my heels in and try to get it working.. do i have to recompile it for ununtu, or  is there a synaptics package out there for it?
[12:30] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, ill try it. once i edit the fstab do i need to reboot?
[12:30] <iliketoprogram> oh, by it i mean: kdevelop
[12:31] <sethk> iliketoprogram, it's in the repositories
[12:31] <zorlac> say i need to run dmraid to allow my raid drives to mound, and i want to mound them through fstab, how do i run the dmraid command before fstab mounts them?
[12:31] <iliketoprogram> sethk: thanks!
[12:31] <bluefox83> zorlac, mount, not mound :P
[12:32] <zorlac> yes yes mount =\
[12:32] <bluefox83> someone's mind is in the gutter ^_^
[12:32] <zorlac> true.
[12:32] <bluefox83> heh
[12:32] <iliketoprogram> uh oh...    Package kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:32] <zorlac> but anyways, should i just mount the raid drives through rc.local instead of fstab?
[12:32] <bluefox83> zorlac, no
[12:33] <bluefox83> zonum, did you already create an fstab entry?
[12:33] <zorlac> i'm creating it now
[12:33] <zorlac> not for the raid drives yet, though
[12:33] <iliketoprogram> fstab should do it if you do it right, i think
[12:33] <zorlac> well, i need to run the command "dmraid -ay -f pdc"
[12:33] <zorlac> before it sees the partition.
[12:34] <bluefox83> ooooh
[12:34] <iliketoprogram> is kdevelop not the name for the release for synaptics?
[12:34] <bluefox83> well..then maybe you do O.O
[12:34] <bluefox83> iliketoprogram, no
[12:34] <zorlac> so i might not be able to fstab it =[
[12:34] <sethk> iliketoprogram, I'll check, but it said "is referred to by another package", so it's a package name
[12:34] <bluefox83> iliketoprogram, synaptic not synaptics
[12:35] <iliketoprogram> i forgot an apostrophe =D sorry
[12:35] <StoneNote> I bet you forgot Poland too
[12:36] <sethk> iliketoprogram, I show the package name as  kdevelop3
[12:36] <JDahl> iliketoprogram, apt-file iis a very useful command-line tool for searching the repositories
[12:36] <FuzzyLaptop> wow cool, i made my system>preferences>screen resolution give an error
[12:36] <FuzzyLaptop> XD
[12:37] <iliketoprogram> thank you sethk, and thank you too JDahl..  that is indeed a very useful command line tool, and i wish i'd learned of it sooner!
[12:37] <zorlac> Is it BAD to mount a hd through rc.local?
[12:37] <sethk> JDahl, true, only  kdevelop is not a file in the kdevelop package
[12:37] <FuzzyLaptop> "The X Server does not suppor the XRandR extention. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[12:37] <iliketoprogram> zorlac, what reason do you have for doing it?
[12:37] <NsOmNiAc> can someone point me to a good site for getting a higher screen resolution in Ubuntu ?
[12:37] <Lysit> how do you fire up the xfce desktop from command line? I know how to stop the gnome desktop
[12:37] <zorlac> ilike, i need to run a dmraid command before linux sees my raid partition.
[12:37] <nozorro> zorlac: it then gets mounted very late in the boot process
[12:38] <agenteo> let's say you have the same package in two different versions. How do you choose the one to install from apt-get? do you need aptude or other tools? thanks
[12:38] <melon|utoh> apologies for being so vague - but i don't know specifics.. i'm getting "hw-random: RNG not detected" when i try to install ubuntu - any common reason for this?
[12:38] <bluefox83> NsOmNiAc, go to System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[12:38] <idefix> I made a jpg file and opened it locally with firefox, np, then uploaded it to a server and it won't open because it contains errors... what's this? something wrong with the FTP-program?
[12:38] <lupine_85> agenteo: apt-get install <packagename>=<version>
[12:38] <iliketoprogram> zorlac, sorry, I can't help you there =(
[12:39] <lupine_85> melon|utoh: it's a kernel message - it's looking for a hardware random number generator, and not finding one
[12:39] <lupine_85> unsurprising, really. most people don't have one
[12:39] <Lilandra> hi
[12:39] <drezha> hi
[12:39] <NsOmNiAc> bluefox83, yeahh I know about that but my card and monitor support higher than 1024x768
[12:39] <NsOmNiAc> and that's the highest it has in the list
[12:39] <drezha> was wondering if anyone else is suffering what appears to be random blackouts on 6.061?
[12:39] <agenteo> thanks lupine_85
[12:40] <lupine_85> is it stopping you from installing?
[12:40] <bluefox83> NsOmNiAc, i unno..google screen reslotuin ubuntu
[12:40] <sethk> drezha, describe "blackouts".
[12:40] <jirihavelka>  NsOmNiAc: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:40] <bluefox83> *resolution
[12:40] <nozorro> !fixres
[12:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:40] <drezha> my screen will go blank, but it sounds like the PC's still on
[12:40] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:40] <Lilandra> lupine_85: i hae a question and HI
[12:40] <melon|utoh> well - i get that one and it's followed directly by "cxacru 11:1.0: cxacru_atm_start: CHIP_ADSL_LINE_START returned -110"
[12:40] <drezha> no key presses or moving mouse will do anything
[12:40] <drick> hello guys...
[12:40] <melon|utoh> i initially thought they were connected.. now i'm not so sure
[12:40] <NsOmNiAc> thanks
[12:40] <sethk> drezha, I have talked to several people having similar problems
[12:41] <ubuntu321> hey
[12:41] <drick> i need assistance with upgrading dapper to edgy...
[12:41] <Flannel> drick: #ubuntu+1
[12:41] <drezha> ah so it's not just me?
[12:41] <sethk> drezha, can you ping the machine from another node on your network?  assuming you have a network, that is.
[12:41] <drick> Flannel: thanks man
[12:41] <lupine_85> drick: visit <insert place of worship here> beforehand
[12:41] <sethk> drezha, no, not just, although it appears to be rare.
[12:41] <drezha> I've not tried that no
[12:41] <sethk> drezha, try it.  that will tell us whether the display died, or the entire machine died.
[12:41] <drick> lupine_85: hahaha, why?
[12:41] <SunRayCafe> does the Dapper Drake server install use PHP 4.3 or 4.4?
[12:41] <drezha> well I've restarted the PC and I'm typing on it ;)
[12:42] <sethk> drezha, also, try the caps lock key.  If it's dead the box is very likely dead also.  try both, the ping, and the caps lock
[12:42] <zorlac> "Couldn't mount device '/dev/mapper/pdc_dicjjjaebg5': Operation not supported
[12:42] <zorlac> Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again."
[12:42] <sethk> drezha, you'll have to wait for it to mess up.
[12:42] <zorlac> Sorry for doubble paste =[
[12:42] <lupine_85> 'cos it's not stable yet
[12:42] <drezha> yeah
[12:42] <drezha> I was considering dropping back to 6.06 because I had no trouble with that
[12:42] <paws\> hi
[12:42] <Lilandra> lupine_85: remember me? and my kernel panic? if i use the live cd and the swap is bad or something...won't it use the same swap?
[12:42] <Crippy-Boy> Hi all, I compiled a new kernel (vanilla 2.6.17.11) And any package i try to install now i get unmet dependencies (kernel-image-686, linux-image-2.6.15-26-686). Why?
[12:42] <Flannel> drick: 6.06 is 6.06.1
[12:42] <Flannel> drezha, even
[12:42] <drezha> it's not overheating either.
[12:43] <drick> Flannel: okie...
[12:43] <Flannel> drezha: .1 is just a culmination of a few patches, repackaged into an iso, so you have less to download once you install
[12:43] <drezha> 6.06 ran fine..then I downloaded the 6.061
[12:43] <lupine_85> Lilandra: the live CD won't touch your hard drive at all
[12:43] <drir> has anyone here used "bitchx-gtk"?
[12:43] <drezha> dam..if I knew that I would have wasted a disk :p
[12:43] <Lilandra> lupine_85: but doesn't it recognize the swap partition and use it?
[12:43] <Flannel> drezha: heh, if you were up to date with 6.06, you downgraded going to .1 ;)
[12:43] <Crippy-Boy> drir: No but im using bitchx if its a generic question?
[12:43] <cyphase> wasn't the Official Ubuntu Book going to be available for download?
[12:43] <Lilandra> because i always have to unmount it
[12:43] <sethk> drezha, don't update immediately when something becomes available.  don't update at all unless there is a good reason.
[12:43] <lupine_85> Lilandra: no. hence why it's a live CD
[12:44] <drezha> right
[12:44] <drir> Crippy-Boy, because i installed the package, but i dont know how to load it!
[12:44] <Lilandra> lupine_85: so why do i always need to un mount swap?
[12:44] <SunRayCafe> Question about server: does the Dapper Drake server install use PHP 4.3 or 4.4?
[12:44] <Flannel> drezha: try updating all your packages, see if it fixes itself again
[12:44] <drezha> so potentialliy I'll suffer these random blackouts for a while
[12:44] <sethk> Lilandra, swap partitions are not mounted, so you don't need to umount them
[12:44] <sethk> Lilandra, why do you think you need to umount?
[12:45] <drezha> I must have updated something else at one point because my sound likes to play up when using Skype and other programs
[12:45] <Flannel> SunRayCafe: 4.4, if you want to still use 4
[12:45] <Lilandra> sethk: well, when i try to resize it, it says it's in use but all the other partitions aren't. maybe it's not umount but i have to turn it off
[12:45] <SunRayCafe> Flannel: thanks.
[12:46] <thedash> I am trying to get lm-sensors working, as it seems to fail every time Itry
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, you can't resize it while it is in use.  that's perfectly reasonable.
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, but resizing it doesn't make any sense in the first place.
[12:46] <Crippy-Boy> drir: type bitchx in terminal and press tab, See what options you get
[12:46] <Lilandra> sethk: but how is it in use if i have a livecd?
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, unless you mean you created one that is too small, and you are trying to use something like gparted to modify the size
[12:46] <Lilandra> sethk: i had to resize/move it to resize my /
[12:46] <sethk> Lilandra, it scans your hard drives to find swap partitions
[12:46] <drezha> if it carries on blacking out, I might have to consider using FC5 :S
[12:46] <nozorro> sethk: can't he do swapoff?
[12:47] <sethk> nozorro, yes, of course
[12:47] <Crippy-Boy> Hi all, I compiled a new kernel (vanilla 2.6.17.11) And any package i try to install now i get unmet dependencies (kernel-image-686, linux-image-2.6.15-26-686). Why?
[12:47] <Lilandra> sethk: right so the livecd uses the swap?
[12:47] <NsOmNiAc> does Ubuntu not support NVIDIA ?
[12:47] <drir> Crippy-Boy, pressing tab does nothing
[12:47] <sethk> nozorro, he's complaining because he has to do swapoff
[12:47] <Flannel> NsOmNiAc: it does
[12:47] <Crippy-Boy> drir: press it twice.
[12:47] <sethk> Lilandra, yes
[12:47] <erUSUL> !nvidia > NsOmNiAc
[12:47] <NsOmNiAc> which Xserver driver Flannel ?
[12:47] <drezha> NsOmNiAc - you can download better drivers though
[12:48] <Flannel> NsOmNiAc: see the link ubotu sent you
[12:48] <Lilandra> sethk: but lupine_85 just said it didn't use it because it's live!
[12:48] <erUSUL> NsOmNiAc: althought the correct question would be does Nvidia not support ubuntu
[12:48] <sethk> Lilandra, who are you going to believe, him or your own eyes?
[12:48] <drir> Crippy-Boy, nothing lol
[12:48] <hc2995> ummm when i try to do sudo apt-get i get something saying "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[12:48] <Lilandra> me!
[12:48] <Lilandra> which is why i asked my other question
[12:48] <erUSUL> Crippy-Boy: have you romved the original ubuntu kernel?
[12:48] <idefix> oh it's probably chmod again
[12:48] <lupine_85> sethk: does it?!
[12:49] <lupine_85> that's not very well-behaved of it
[12:49] <Crippy-Boy> erUSUL: yes.
[12:49] <viator> hc2995 so run the command!
[12:49] <sethk> lupine_85, yes, it scans IDE drives.  I don't like it either
[12:49] <hc2995> i did ./'dpkg --configure -a and got "directory dosent exist"
[12:49] <viator> no
[12:49] <viator> no ./
[12:49] <sethk> hc2995, you put a single quote between / and dpkg?
[12:49] <lupine_85> sorry Lilandra, I was wrong
[12:49] <hc2995> no
[12:49] <Crippy-Boy> drir: tried "whereis bitchx-gtk"?
[12:49] <hc2995> sorry i just copy pasted
[12:49] <Lilandra> no problem lupine_85
[12:49] <sethk> hc2995, also, as viator says, it's not in the current directory
[12:49] <bluefusionxl> hello everyone!  I am going to be starting a free shell/hosting service soon.  I was wondering, can people read other people's files?  If so how would I prevent that?  I will have lots of vital passwords in my php scripts and I can't have people having access to that.
[12:50] <bluefusionxl> Give me any other tips you may have also
[12:50] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$ ./dpkg --configure -a
[12:50] <hc2995> bash: ./dpkg: No such file or directory
[12:50] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$
[12:50] <sethk> bluefusionxl, in general, no, but doing that would be insane.
[12:50] <bluefusionxl> why is that?
[12:50] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: file permissions
[12:50] <drir> Crippy-Boy, just says "bitchx-gtk:'
[12:50] <hc2995> what directory is it in?
[12:50] <erUSUL> Crippy-Boy: why? it seems that all packages depend on it why not keeping it oraund just in case (i use custom compiled kernels too but have not removed the ubuntu one)
[12:50] <viator> just  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:50] <Flannel> hc2995: no ./  just the dpkg line, dpkg is a command
[12:51] <Lilandra> so lupine_85: if the livecd uses the swap (and something's wrong with the swap partition) mightn't it give same errors?
[12:51] <drezha> looks like I'd updated all the packages this morning
[12:51] <lupine_85> it might do, yes
[12:51] <ramtheus> hello and QUESTION: How do I get dvdShrink to read my dvd drive. No way to use winsetuptk since it's been removed from Universe. any way around it?
[12:51] <lupine_85> best bet is to run swapoff as early aws possible
[12:51] <drezha> and it blacked out about 5 minutes ago
[12:51] <sethk> bluefusionxl, because people hack and potentially get around the o/s security.  ALL passwords on the disk must be encrypted.  Very basic security rule.
[12:51] <Flannel> drezha: have you restarted since the update?
[12:51] <Lilandra> ah! ok lupine_85..thanks :)
[12:51] <sethk> bluefusionxl, principle, not rule.
[12:51] <drezha> yes
[12:51] <rapiscan> Hey all, does anyone have any experience with the xorg.conf or xinerama?  This seems very trivial, but I have extended desktop working, but the monitors are flipped and I can't get them to (right is on left, and vice versa)..  I can't just physically move the monitors, or it will be flipped for OSX.
[12:52] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$ sudo dpkq --configure -a
[12:52] <hc2995> sudo: dpkq: command not found
[12:52] <hc2995> howard@DELL:~$
[12:52] <Flannel> hc2995: dpkG not Q
[12:52] <drezha> couple of times it crashed during the day
[12:52] <erUSUL> !paste > hc2995
[12:52] <bluefusionxl> seth, how do I tell if they are encrypted?
[12:52] <hc2995> thats a g
[12:52] <sky123> Hi guys...I have openldap authentication working properly. HOWEVER..I dont want to authenticaticate over plain text and need the portion with TLS/SSL working. Does anyone know if there is support for TLS/SSL with the slapd that comes with ubuntu?? Also specific to the support...how do you set it up?? use the snakeoil certs?? or??
[12:52] <hc2995> yes?
[12:52] <sethk> bluefusionxl, if you edit the file, and you can read the password, it's not encrypted.
[12:52] <yohan> which tool do i use when compiling source to make a .deb file nowagain?
[12:52] <drezha> crashed when I tried to change options in tux racer and when loading a UT2k4 level as well
[12:52] <yohan> so i can install with dpkg instead
[12:52] <bluefusionxl> Would that not mess up adduser and other scripts that automatically add users?
[12:53] <rapiscan> Anybody familiar with xinerama?
[12:53] <bluefusionxl> if I encrypted it?
[12:53] <sethk> rapiscan, lot's of people are.  ask a more specific question
[12:53] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: you don't encrypt the file, you use encryption, and the whole system will use that encryption for passwords
[12:53] <rapiscan> (18:51:59) rapiscan: Hey all, does anyone have any experience with the xorg.conf or xinerama?  This seems very trivial, but I have extended desktop working, but the monitors are flipped and I can't get them to (right is on left, and vice versa)..  I can't just physically move the monitors, or it will be flipped for OSX.
[12:53] <sethk> bluefusionxl, no, look in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.  you'll see only encrypted passwords.
[12:53] <yohan> so i can install with dpkg instead
[12:53] <sethk> Flannel, or store the encrypted password in an ordinary file.
[12:54] <JohnFlux> Hey all!
[12:54] <sethk> rapiscan, look at the "left of" and "right of" options
[12:54] <ulrikft> Hey!
[12:54] <sethk> rapiscan, in the server layout in xorg.conf
[12:54] <ProN00b> anyone got a good solution to play FLV files ?
[12:54] <bluefusionxl> seth, i don't see anything that even looks like a password in that file
[12:54] <isaac_> hey everyone, got a question about a certain screensaver:  I was flipping through the available ones and when I got to the fiberlamp screensaver it just locked up, and my question is why you guys think that might be... I've run this screensaver on other disros okay, and my computer is fairly good
[12:54] <sethk> rapiscan, let's you, as you might expect, set the second screen to be to the left, or to the right, of the first.
[12:54] <ramiroec> just a question: is there a live cd, only to view Divx, DVD, .... ?
[12:54] <JohnFlux> I upgraded to edgy, and now windows machines that connect via my machines (setup for nat )  can't use windows live messenger
[12:54] <bluefusionxl> I dont notice any hash either
[12:54] <sethk> ProN00b, no, sorry, not my area.
[12:54] <drezha> pro noob - mplayer
[12:54] <rapiscan> Yessir, this seemed like the obvious answer, but changing these options does not actually change when I reboot.
[12:54] <yohan> !dpkg
[12:54] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:55] <ulrikft> I'm going to do my first fresh ubuntu-install now. it is a few years since i used linux, mostly been using freebsd/osx/windows lately. Any typical things I should keep in mind, or is it farily simple?
[12:55] <erUSUL> ProN00b: i use xine or mplayer even totem can play some of them
[12:55] <hc2995> lol
[12:55] <JohnFlux> anyone heard about upnp?
[12:55] <hc2995> that was a q
[12:55] <JohnFlux> !upnp
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <erUSUL> JohnFlux: yes
[12:55] <hc2995> i thought i hit g lol
[12:55] <Flannel> rapiscan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[12:55] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you don't see a nonsense string on each line of /etc/shadow?  (or /etc/passwd, if you aren't using shadow)
[12:55] <drezha> ProN00b- Download Mplayer via Synaptic. Works a treat
[12:55] <JohnFlux> erUSUL: do i need to set it up or something for windows msn to work via nat?
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: Does the live cd work ok?
[12:55] <Flannel> rapiscan: there's a bit in there about "SErver Layout"  and then some "Right of" stuff, etc
[12:55] <viator> moral of this story dont use windows messenger
[12:55] <nano-lover> Question!: How do I run a .bin file?
[12:55] <JohnFlux> erUSUL: i'm trying to work out why msn isn't working through the ubuntu nat server
[12:55] <viator> heheh
[12:55] <nano-lover> viator: EVER!
[12:56] <rapiscan> Flannel, thanks for the link, but I've already tried changing RightOf to LeftOf, and I've also tried changing the orders of the screens.
[12:56] <Peaceful> Do I need to do something special to get the edubuntu install cd to boot on a PIII server w/SCSI disks?  It just hangs on me.
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: dunno yet, I just had an old freebsd-cd lying around, so I installed a basic freebsd, burning the ubuntu-cd now.
[12:56] <erUSUL> JohnFlux: ask in a windows channel but yes upnp can be used to autoconfigure ports for nat if the router support it
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: hopefully it will work ok, freebsd did not like my sata at all.. :/
[12:56] <bluefox83> JohnFlux, because microsoft made it?
[12:56] <sethk> nano-lover, unix doesn't use file extensions to mean anything.  however, if it contains a script or a program, use    chmod +x filename.bin
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: See how it runs and how it handles your hardware
[12:56] <sethk> nano-lover, then, do  ./filename.bin
[12:56] <ProN00b> drezha, what are you on ? mplayer can't seek in FLV files
[12:56] <rapiscan> I've also tried changing the monitors that are associated with the screens, and flipping those.
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: ok, will do.
[12:56] <sethk> nano-lover, that's with filename.bin in the current directory
[12:56] <nano-lover> sethk: That is why I love you :)
[12:56] <drezha> no program can seek in FLV file
[12:56] <nano-lover> hehe
[12:56] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: have quite ordinary hardware.. dual core 2, sata.. kind of thing.
[12:56] <ProN00b> erUSUL, totem is shit and doesn't work for me
[12:56] <erUSUL> JohnFlux: i do not know how to enable it in ubuntu
[12:57] <bluefusionxl> I see encrypted passwords on my user accounts and root that I created.  But the service accounts don't have anything that looks like it.  For example my gdm is
[12:57] <bluefusionxl> gdm:!:13353:0:99999:7:::
[12:57] <sethk> rapiscan, left of and right of work.  Paste your xorg.conf, with and without the right of (or left of) modifier, and we'll see why it isn't working for you.
[12:57] <ulrikft> will come back to you guys in the time of rest of the burnprocess and one ubuntu install... :P
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: What video card?
[12:57] <erUSUL> ProN00b: use shine and also...
[12:57] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: gforce 7600GS
[12:57] <ulrikft> hmm or GT.. *checks
[12:57] <bluefusionxl> is that lower encrption?
[12:57] <erUSUL> !language > ProN00b
[12:57] <ProN00b> erUSUL, what ?
[12:57] <drezha> Pronoob...you might want to convert the FLV files
[12:57] <erUSUL> ProN00b: xine
[12:57] <ulrikft> Jack_Sparrow: 7600GS PCX
[12:57] <Mangix> how do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ulrikft: You should be good to go.. Wireless cards are another problem area..
[12:57] <drezha> guide here
[12:57] <drezha> http://my.opera.com/fbsd/blog/show.dml/430067
[12:57] <sethk> bluefox83, no, the ! means that the password is in /etc/shadow, usually
[12:57] <rapiscan> When booting the default monitor is my left (for OSX, for yaboot, for the booting sequence), but as soon as x is launched it seems to make right screen the default screen, regardless of which screen I have set to what and what is "LeftOf" and "RightOf".
[12:57] <ProN00b> drezha, thats a shitty solution
[12:58] <ulrikft> ah, I have an onboard intel card, works nice under Fbsd, so I would imagine that it will do?
[12:58] <lupine_85> well, depending on the wireles card :)
[12:58] <drezha> dont have a go at me. I'm trying to help you here
[12:58] <ProN00b> erUSUL, you think xine will play them and seek in them ?
[12:58] <ACU> how can I run setup.php script for phpmyadmin? if I do I get a permission denied (even as root)
[12:58] <lupine_85> intel... the ipw ones?
[12:58] <rapiscan> Then the other screen is extended, off o my right screen.
[12:58] <ulrikft> thanks by the way Jack_Sparrow :)
[12:58] <rapiscan> Sethk, you want me to just paste it here?
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:58] <sethk> bluefox83, sometimes it says x; it's just a placeholder.
[12:58] <Mangix> how do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one
[12:58] <drir> bitchx-gtk:
[12:58] <sethk> rapiscan, no, on the paste web site.
[12:58] <bluefusionxl> seth, I am in /etc/shadow
[12:58] <erUSUL> ProN00b: it does for me in the ones i have tried
[12:58] <ulrikft> rapiscan: pastebin
[12:58] <sethk> !paste
[12:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:58] <ProN00b> erUSUL, are you sure you are talking about flv files ? it doesn't work a bit for me
[12:58] <lupine_85> erm, ulrikft: is it an ipw chipset?
[12:58] <apecat> !ati
[12:58] <erUSUL> ProN00b: i have installed w32codecs
[12:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:58] <Flannel> ProN00b: flv are flash files, you should be able to only have flash, and play them
[12:59] <Graig> hello. does anyone know why my SSH connection to my mom's computer would just stop working?  i have no idea why. and i have her ip address right.
[12:59] <bluefusionxl> seth, I believe that my passwords are secure anyhow, do you know any other tips that I should do if I was going to make a public access server?
[12:59] <erUSUL> ProN00b: yes flv the ones you can dl from youtube and other flash sites
[12:59] <lupine_85> Graig: define not working?
[12:59] <sethk> bluefusionxl, I mention passwords because you talked about passwords in php files
[12:59] <drir> anyone at all ever use bitchx-gtk?
[12:59] <Graig> lupine_85: its just not connecting at all.
[12:59] <lupine_85> is sshd still running?
[12:59] <rapiscan> Ok, thanks.   I will paste it in just one moment.  I am going to try LeftOf one last time and reboot so you will see that I have it in this configuration.  Then I will be back and paste the config.
[12:59] <Mangix> how do i set the permissions of a folder? i need to put some files into one
[12:59] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you can make files available to only the owner, or to the owner and group, or to everyone
[12:59] <Graig> lupine_85: i try to connect and it just sits there.
[12:59] <erUSUL> Flannel: flv is a container format much as avi or ogg
[01:00] <sethk> Mangix, same way you set the permissions of a file
[01:00] <ubuntu321> Hey how do you change your userlogin password? Ive changed my root passwrd but can't seem to change the one when you boot up ubuntu and it asks for your username then password, i can't change that one???
[01:00] <sky123> Any familiar with openldap TLS/SSL support for openldap in Ubuntu??
[01:00] <lupine_85> ok, can you telnet to the port?
[01:00] <yohan> which tool do i use when compiling source to make a .deb file nowagain?
[01:00] <sethk> Mangix, us unix snobs say directory, not folder.  :)
[01:00] <erUSUL> Flannel: i do see those files with xine
[01:00] <Mangix> sethk, allright
[01:00] <Graig> lupine_85: with telnet?
[01:00] <ulrikft> sethk: well, my old teacher would smack my head when i said "folder"
[01:00] <meike> Hello. (:
[01:00] <sethk> ubuntu321,  sudo passwd username
[01:00] <lupine_85> erm, yes
[01:00] <nozorro> ubuntu321: System > Administration > Users and Groups
[01:00] <ulrikft> "folder is what you deliver your homework in, it is called a DIRECTORY!"
[01:00] <bluefusionxl> sethk, whats the command to logout?  Im going to logout and try a account i created to see if its available to see my index files
[01:00] <Mangix> sethk, so how do i do it? i'm not sure how to change the permissons of a file either
[01:00] <lupine_85> so telnet <the-ip-address> 22
[01:00] <pfein> umm, any tips on installing on a box without a bios?
[01:00] <ulrikft> "kids these days"
[01:00] <ulrikft> or, something like that.
[01:00] <sethk> bluefusionxl, in a shell?  just exit
[01:00] <nano-lover> pfein: ...
[01:00] <ulrikft> ok, trying to install now.. ;)
[01:00] <ulrikft> laters.
[01:01] <lupine_85> that'll let us distinguish between network and software errors
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> okay, thanks
[01:01] <Graig> lupine_85: does she have to be running a telnet service or something?
[01:01] <drezha> Mangix chmod +x filename+path
[01:01] <pfein> nano-lover: really, it doesn't have a bios
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> oh shoot, it closed my shell...
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> pfein: Please describe your hardware
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> gotta reopen putty
[01:01] <lupine_85> not if you specify the port manually (22)
[01:01] <sethk> bluefusionxl, you can do this:   sudo su username        to become any user
[01:01] <Mangix> drezha, thanks
[01:01] <viator> is it a mac
[01:01] <bluefusionxl> thank you
[01:01] <lupine_85> all we're doing is seeing if you can contact that port
[01:01] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: It's a toshiba libretto L5 (japanese).
[01:01] <sethk> bluefusionxl, saves a lot of logging in and out.  :)
[01:01] <AMGI> hello
[01:02] <ubuntu321> nozorro: thank u very much
[01:02] <Adam> wee I had a libretto
[01:02] <ProN00b> how can i see the files a package contains ?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> pfein: My old toshiba had a very odd key combination to get into the setup routine
[01:02] <AMGI> could i ask for some help from a nice user :)?
[01:02] <erUSUL> ProN00b: dpkg -L package
[01:02] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: it's "legacy-free" - has a menu to pick a boot device & that's it.
[01:02] <Graig> lupine_85:  it says colud not resolve
[01:02] <Mangix> drezha, chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/lib/opera/plugins': Operation not permitted
[01:02] <bluefusionxl> seth, it looks like my dummy account can ready my index files
[01:02] <erUSUL> !ask > AMGI
[01:02] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: it'll boot from a USB floppy, but not a USB CD.
[01:02] <lupine_85> Graig: there's your problem then.
[01:02] <ProN00b> erUSUL, and for packages not installed ?
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, ok, then you need to do this:     chmod a-r filename
[01:03] <lupine_85> the domain name you're using isn't valid, or DNS is broken somewhere
[01:03] <bluefusionxl> seth, should I make a group for the public users and is there a way to set access limitations on that group?
[01:03] <Graig> lupine_85: did her internet service provider block me or something?
[01:03] <viator> pfein
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, or, to do an entire directory:   chmod -R a-r /filename
[01:03] <viator> use pxe
[01:03] <lupine_85> Graig: no
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pfein: what about a flashstick
[01:03] <lupine_85> it's just in general
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, after that you'll have to do   chmod u+r filename
[01:03] <pfein> viator: ugh, I was afraid you were gonna say that...
[01:03] <lupine_85> maybe she has a dynamic IP and it's changed?
[01:03] <viator> thats how ya have todo it
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, better I think to do     chmod g-r filename          and then             chmod o-r filename
[01:03] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: haven't tried... maybe USB HD, but I doubt it.
[01:03] <Graig> lupine_85: i wonder if her service provider blocked me totally then.
[01:03] <sethk> bluefusionxl, so you don't have to do    chmod u+r filename
[01:04] <AMGI> well i was thinking of installing ubuntu as my second O/S, on the same disc i have windows, so i guess i could make a quick partition with partition magic, but i was wondering if there was any smooth way of doing this dual boot easy ? since i know ubuntu doesnt likew ntfs ? :o
[01:04] <lupine_85> Graig: it's nothing to do with a block
[01:04] <lupine_85> you're just knocking on the wrong door, as it were
[01:04] <sethk> bluefusionxl, a means "all", g means group, u means user (the file owner), o means other
[01:04] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: would I just expand the ISO to the HD/stick?
[01:04] <Graig> lupine_85:  your saying i have the wrong ip address?
[01:04] <lupine_85> yes
[01:04] <nozorro> AMGI: dual boot works fine if windows is on ehte first disk partition
[01:04] <sethk> bluefusionxl, if you set a file's permissions to:    -rw-------    then only the owner can read and write it
[01:04] <lupine_85> or domain name, since resolution is failing
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > pfein
[01:04] <sethk> bluefusionxl, with   -r--------   then only the owner can read it, and nobody can write it.
[01:05] <erUSUL> !dualboot > AMGI
[01:05] <AMGI> nozorro but what about ubuntu not liking ntfs ? :o
[01:05] <lupine_85> presumably it's something like 123-123-123-123.blah.blah.com ?
[01:05] <bluefusionxl> seth, I would like to make a usergroup only able to read their own files.  How would I accomplish that?  I dont want people to see other people's files either
[01:05] <nozorro> AMGI: writing to ntfs is not possible still
[01:05] <lupine_85> AMGI: read-only access for now
[01:05] <Graig> lupine_85:  that shouldn't be right, i had my dad go to the myipaddress site. and it came up with the same ip address that i get from her domain address.
[01:05] <nozorro> AMGI: reading is ok
[01:05] <AMGI> :s
[01:05] <Subhuman> AMGI, it is possible to write with extra software (google "ntfs3g" if your interested)
[01:05] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: you don't need a usergroup, use owner not group
[01:05] <kitche> AMGI: linux support of ntfs is iffy
[01:05] <AMGI> i cant make another file system on one part of the disc, that would mess things up when i want to remove that partition :s
[01:05] <lupine_85> Graig: the problem is the domain name. that's it.
[01:05] <sethk> bluefusionxl, the permissions     -rw-r-----  makes the file read/write for owner, read only for group, and inaccessible for everyone else
[01:05] <ProN00b> erUSUL, it says w32codecs is not avaiable, what repo is it in ? (i think i got everything enabled but backports)
[01:05] <Subhuman> kitche, not with ntfs3g, its pretty sage.
[01:06] <Subhuman> safe*
[01:06] <AMGI> without loosing any of the info from the first partition
[01:06] <nozorro> AMGI: there's a win app out there which reads/writes certain linux partitions
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, for file systems, pretty safe means unsafe.
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, you can't be a certain amount safe, you are either safe, or not safe.
[01:06] <erUSUL> ProN00b: in seveas'
[01:06] <Subhuman> sethk, well i mean safe full stop then
[01:06] <Graig> lupine_85: but, it wont connect to her ip address either.
[01:06] <kitche> Subhuman: well all of ntfs is unsafe if I remember it can get correputed real easy
[01:06] <erUSUL> !seveas > ProN00b
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, ok.
[01:06] <AMGI> nozorro hmm :o
[01:06] <sethk> Subhuman, I haven't tested it myself.
[01:07] <Subhuman> kitche, look up ntfs3g, its pretty well documented and alot of benchmarks etc.
[01:07] <sethk> Subhuman, is the file extension problem fixed?
[01:07] <erUSUL> ProN00b: also you can dl them from mplayer page and do a manual install
[01:07] <ProN00b> erUSUL, can you gimme a list of its contents, because i installed a codecs pack from mplayer, and i think thats the same i just need the location
[01:07] <Subhuman> it replaces ntfsprogs.
[01:07] <viator> ProN00b needs to change his sources.list
[01:07] <ProN00b> erUSUL, gimme the folder they go in
[01:07] <viator> ProN00b should goto the sourceomatic site
[01:07] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[01:07] <bluefusionxl> seth, so could I just chmod the /home directory so only the owner can read it?
[01:07] <Subhuman> sethk, i think so, there are still a few limitations, but nothing major (doesnt handle ntfs file permissions etc)
[01:07] <ProN00b> erUSUL, can you really seek in flv files ?
[01:08] <bluefusionxl> and chmod my other file directories to root?
[01:08] <bluefusionxl> or owner?
[01:08] <kitche> Subhuman: it doesn't do writing though which is what some people want
[01:08] <viator> !sourceomatic
[01:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:08] <erUSUL> ProN00b: yes they are the same as the ones in mplayer page /usr/lib/win32
[01:08] <sethk> Subhuman, ok.  the file extension problem is the big one.
[01:08] <Graig> lupine_85: is it possible that the ssh service somehow blocked me?
[01:08] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: you could.  Although, you can just chmod the files themselves
[01:09] <Graig> lupine_85: or does it have an error message?
[01:09] <viator> ProN00b generate a new sources.list
[01:09] <viator> using the site the bot listed
[01:09] <hikenboot> hello all---anyone know what this means? ERROR: SlavePool: No communication with slave. when copying files from one drive to another with konqueror?
[01:09] <ProN00b> erUSUL, and you can seek in flv files ?
[01:09] <ProN00b> are you sure ?
[01:09] <pfein> Jack_Sparrow: eh, a few links I missed on the install page the first time, I'll try a few approaches.  thanks
[01:10] <bluefusionxl> I think I may set my permissions like that then
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:10] <bluefusionxl> Why is it that when I use adduser, it creates a new group for every user
[01:10] <bluefusionxl> couldnt I just put all my people in a usergroup called public?
[01:11] <AMGI> nozorro if i have a 250gb disc with ntfs and windows on it, just one partition, what is the easiest way do you think to make 15gig to ubuntu and that 500mb swap partition to ubuntu without loosing any of the information on my c drive as i have my music and documents etc there
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> AMGI: Partition Magic or Gparted
[01:11] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Resize the partition with GParted then make partitions in the free space
[01:11] <rixxon> Ubuntu using SELinux?
[01:11] <nozorro> AMGI: not sure, partitionmagic i guess. i think there's also a part. resizing app on the live cd
[01:12] <erUSUL> ProN00b: i have checked again and you are right i can see them with xine and mplayer but can not seek
[01:12] <AMGI> Gparted is free ?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[01:12] <isaac_> can anyone tell me a good java development environment to use for ubuntu?  used to use jgrasp but it doesn't seem to like Linux
[01:12] <rapiscan> sethk (and anyone else that might be interested) I don't think that I stated my problem very well.  The issue is that I need to make my "Primary" screen on the left and not on the right.  Switching "LeftOf" and "RightOf" works fine, but the application menu and login are on the right screen.  I need to make the left screen the primary screen.  I have uploaded my xorg.conf to pastebin.
[01:12] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Yes.
[01:12] <rixxon> isaac_: eclipse?
[01:12] <hondje> isaac_: Eclipse is popular
[01:12] <nozorro> AMGI: partition manipulation is always somewhat dangerous, make backups ...
[01:12] <isaac_> okay, thanks, I'll try Eclipse
[01:12] <FuzzyLaptop> hmm i put driver "fglrx" in the device section in the xorg.conf file... and its failing on that
[01:12] <AMGI> its kinda hard making 200gig backup without any free space to back it up on :( :( :(
[01:12] <sethk> rapiscan,ok, let me look at it.
[01:12] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: You can either use the GParted live cd or i believe its on the ubuntu 'Desktop' live cd.
[01:13] <kitche> isaac_: Eclipse might not be what your looking for it's acts different then Jgrasp might have to read a lot of docs
[01:13] <nozorro> AMGI: well burn cd's or dvd's maybe
[01:13] <sethk> rapiscan, give us the URL of the paste
[01:13] <mcphail> bluefusionxl: read "man adduser" and edit /etc/adduser.conf
[01:13] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy i want a prog that i can use from windows to do this, as i dont have the ubuntu live cd, i just dl'ed the install image from their site
[01:13] <Crippy-Boy> isaac_: Netbeans?
[01:13] <rapiscan> oh sorry, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22959
[01:14] <sethk> isaac_, eclipse is excellent for java
[01:14] <FuzzyLaptop> so if fglrx and ati dont work, what can i fill in to make it work then?
[01:14] <AMGI> nozorro thats alot of cds :s
[01:14] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: You're not going to be able to resize directly in windows as the partition will be mounted
[01:14] <sethk> FuzzyLaptop, file the AGP slot with a different card
[01:14] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: The GParted live cd is pretty small.
[01:14] <FuzzyLaptop> ?
[01:14] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy thought partition magic could do that, but it cant switch to anything other then ntfs filesystem
[01:14] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...on debian based distros like Ubuntu where would one put a http to https rewrite condition?  in apache2.conf or 000-default?
[01:15] <FuzzyLaptop> are you telling me to just use a different videocard?
[01:15] <FuzzyLaptop> lol
[01:15] <ulrikft> hmm, I'm having a slight problem making a ubuntu-bootable cd with burncd.. or so it seems.
[01:15] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: I dont *THINK* You'll be able to resize the partition while inside windows.
[01:15] <sureshot> hey all sorry to bother but can someone give me the syntax for me to install a .bin file
[01:15] <brian98> Hi All just got a new 750gb SATA and was wondering should I reinstall,  use ghost, or is there another way? Also when I do is there a way to resize partitions etcc.. Actually scrub that google is my friend there  I'm sure.....
[01:15] <Gevaudan82> sureshot: chmod + x binfile && ./binfile
[01:15] <FuzzyLaptop> lol well "radeon"didnt work
[01:15] <sethk> rapiscan, can you reverse the cables at the video card?
[01:15] <viator> no use the gparted live cd
[01:15] <sureshot> thanks
[01:15] <viator> defrag windows first
[01:16] <viator> then boot to the cd
[01:16] <viator> and resizw
[01:16] <Crippy-Boy> Yup.
[01:16] <AMGI> wish i had another disc to install on :(
[01:16] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Which ubuntu cd did you download?
[01:16] <rapiscan> That's the thing, I can't physically change them (although that's a perfectly fine solution).  I'm not the only one that uses this computer, and OSX won't let me change the primary monitor either (I already tried).  I was going to leave ti this way, flip the monitors, and change it in OSX, but no dice.
[01:17] <FuzzyLaptop> how can i see what display driver im using?
[01:17] <Gevaudan82> fuzzy: vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:17] <sethk> AMGI, partition magic shrinks your ntfs partition; why can't you use the recovered space?
[01:17] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy desktop install for amd 64
[01:17] <rapiscan> I know it seems trivial, but I've always worked with desktop on the left, extended desktop on the right, and it seems like it would be very easy to fix this... I have tried every combination I can think of though.
[01:17] <FuzzyLaptop> lol
[01:17] <mckinnoj> guys quick question
[01:17] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Then GParted is on there.
[01:17] <mckinnoj> how do i add another user account ?
[01:17] <ulrikft> hmm, I'm doing burncd -v -e -f /dev/acd0 -s 24 -t data /usr/home/ulrikft/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso fixate
[01:17] <sethk> FuzzyLaptop, in the /var/log/X.....     log file.   I forget the name but it's the only one in that directory that starts with capital X
[01:17] <rapiscan> I've tried switching screen numbers in the device section, switching monitors in the screen section, etc.
[01:17] <AMGI> sethk cause Crippy-Boy said i couldnt shrink with partition magic :s
[01:17] <ulrikft> doesen't that seem ok?
[01:18] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: I said i doubt you could did it while in windows since the partition is already mounted, thats all.
[01:18] <mckinnoj> how do i add another user account ?
[01:18] <Crippy-Boy> adduser?
[01:18] <mckinnoj> can anyone help me out please?
[01:18] <mckinnoj> yes
[01:18] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: also in the "Driver" Secton in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:18] <mckinnoj> adduser?
[01:18] <mckinnoj> how?
[01:18] <viator> system>administration>users and groups
[01:18] <Gevaudan82> mckinno: don't repeat...go under System - adminstration -users groups
[01:18] <sethk> rapiscan, I'm still a bit confused.  what does osx do when you exchange the cables?
[01:19] <viator> or from the  cli adduser
[01:19] <rapiscan> Well, OSX thinks the left monitor is the primary monitor (which is the way it should be) So OSX puts the desktop on the left, and extends it to the right.  Switching cables would flip this setup.
[01:19] <FuzzyLaptop> thing is, im working on my xorg.conf and its not working with any drivers i use, and its telling me that the problem is in that line
[01:19] <FuzzyLaptop> but i dont see any problem in it
[01:19] <rapiscan> While moving the monitors in the display options could fix this, then in OSX the right hand monitor would be the primary monitor.
[01:19] <sethk> rapiscan, oh, I see, the problem is that the order of use of the monitor outputs are different.
[01:19] <thedash> lm-sensors is smarter than me
[01:20] <sethk> rapiscan, linux is using one order, and osx the reverse order.
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> all i could think of is that my fglrx drivers broke for some reason
[01:20] <AMGI> Crippy-Boy if i resize the partition from the ubuntu install cd, how big a risk do i take of loosing all the info from the disk ?
[01:20] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: well you are sure your card is supported?
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> it worked before
[01:20] <rapiscan> Right, and I can't seem to get Ubuntu to think that left is the primary monitor.
[01:20] <sethk> rapiscan, hmm, let me think
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> its a radeon 9600
[01:20] <FuzzyLaptop> should work fine
[01:20] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: As with any time you mess with the partition table, Quite high
[01:20] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: BusID option helps sometimes
[01:20] <nozorro> FuzzyLaptop: for ati i mean
[01:20] <AMGI> fuck :(
[01:21] <DBO> AMGI, language
[01:21] <AMGI> sorry
[01:21] <rapiscan> That really is the primary monitor, yaboot config outputs data to this monitor when selecting boot options (the left).
[01:21] <AMGI> =/
[01:21] <Kill_X> hi there
[01:21] <sethk> AMGI, I second that.  ALWAYS back up before mucking around with partitions.
[01:21] <rapiscan> But as soon as X launches, login screen is on the right, as if right were primary.
[01:21] <sethk> AMGI, however, everything should be backed up anyway; if it isn't you are asking for trouble.
[01:21] <kaosx> AMGI look into setting up LVM and consider adding a disk or partition that way
[01:21] <Kill_X> I got a serious and vital problem tonight...
[01:21] <sethk> rapiscan, yes, I see.  I'm still considering ...
[01:21] <rapiscan> Serious and vital, that sounds rough.
[01:22] <AMGI> if i wasnt a poor student i would just buy another hdd :s
[01:22] <FuzzyLaptop> hmm it seems to be the busid indeed
[01:22] <FuzzyLaptop> 2 monitors using the same id
[01:22] <FuzzyLaptop> that cant be right
[01:22] <BlackPawn> I've got a problem trying to install Ubuntu, when I boot from the cd and start the installation process, it goes through the long list of checks, the final check says failed, and before I have a chance to read what failed, the screen goes black...??
[01:22] <nozorro> AMGI: scan your disk and you'll see that you can part with some files :-)
[01:23] <Crippy-Boy> AMGI: Im sure you'll be fine, Ive never had a problem, EVER, its just the risk is there and whether you wanna take it or not.
[01:23] <ulrikft> g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)] error = 5 <- wtf?
[01:23] <sagarp> the icons in my run-dialog dont match the rest of the icons...how can i change that?
[01:23] <Flannel> BlackPawn: grab the alternate ISO, no liveCD before install
[01:23] <Kill_X> my system (dapper 6.10.1, Kernel 2.6.16-26 I guess) refuses to mount my root-fs on lvm volume group "Ubuntu", LV Ubuntu-root
[01:23] <rapiscan> FuzzyLaptop, I am no expert, but looking at my own config (ATI 9800 pro), I have two monitors on the ame busID, since it's from the same card.
[01:23] <AMGI> nozorro i only have important stuff ^_^
[01:23] <nozorro> AMGI: i second that
[01:23] <brian98> Hi All just got a new 750gb SATA and was wondering should I reinstall,  use ghost, or is there another way? Also when I do is there a way to resize partitions etcc.. Actually scrub that google is my friend there  I'm sure.....
[01:23] <Kill_X> on bootup
[01:23] <sethk> rapiscan, right, it is only one device on the pci bus, otherwise it would be trivial
[01:23] <FuzzyLaptop> ahh
[01:23] <nozorro> AMGI: Crippy-Boy's opinion i mean
[01:23] <AMGI> hm well installing partition magic now :s
[01:24] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how to format my hardrive?
[01:24] <FuzzyLaptop> ill see what it does now, who knows
[01:24] <livingdaylight> cfdisk doesn't do that
[01:24] <livingdaylight> i'm in live cd
[01:24] <livingdaylight> i need to format sdb
[01:24] <kaosx> umm
[01:24] <mcphail> livingdaylight: cfdisk is for making partitions
[01:24] <kaosx> mke2fs?
[01:24] <Kill_X> it goes through kernel startup very well, but after execution of /scripts/premount (pre-init) it throws an exception saying the device /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist
[01:24] <livingdaylight> mcphail: thtas right, so how do i format
[01:24] <pharcvde> who do i contact for edgy requests?
[01:25] <dibblego> !themes > dibblego
[01:25] <mcphail> livingdaylight: use one of the mkfs commands
[01:25] <nozorro> livingdaylight: which kind fo file system?
[01:25] <varsendaggr> hey where are the plugins for inkscape?
[01:25] <kitche> livingdaylight: cfdisk is just a paritioner
[01:25] <kaosx> mke2fs does most of the popular ones
[01:25] <mcphail> livingdaylight: i would recommend mke2fs -j
[01:25] <livingdaylight> nozorro: it doesn't matter for now. I just need to be able to get back into sda which i can't access, so i need to just format sdb
[01:26] <sethk> rapiscan, are you up for a source code patch?   building xorg is a real bitch, though.
[01:26] <Kill_X> lvm modules have been successfully loaded, though, and both my LVs (swap partition, root partition) have been recognized
[01:26] <rapiscan> Hmm, did you find a solution?
[01:26] <Kill_X> anyone got some hint? :S
[01:26] <livingdaylight> basically, i just need to wipe the system that is on my sdb so i can access again sda
[01:26] <sethk> rapiscan, if you are willing to change source code and rebuild the X server, it isn't terribly difficult.
[01:26] <JDStone> I'm getting a message that says I need to configure LIRC when I start it
[01:27] <JDStone> can someone please help me?
[01:27] <rapiscan> I don't think I can do it tonight, but sure I'm game.  My experience is limited, but I'm trying to learn as fast as I can here...
[01:27] <nozorro> livingdaylight: partitioning shluld be enough to wipe it
[01:27] <viator> livingdaylight try dban
[01:27] <viator> then
[01:27] <nozorro> *should
[01:27] <viator> heh
[01:27] <Crippy-Boy> dban rules :D
[01:27] <rapiscan> sethk (I only have a little time left tonight, I have other work to do, that's why I say I can't do it tonight)
[01:28] <livingdaylight> nozorro: no it itsn't because when i reboot, the other os still boots up
[01:28] <sethk> rapiscan, ok, we'll talk another time then.
[01:28] <livingdaylight> viator: dban? how?
[01:28] <Crippy-Boy> livingdaylight: download the boot disk http://dban.sf.net (i think)
[01:28] <viator> dban is a live cd for widing drives partions
[01:28] <rapiscan> sethk, oh you were going to have to walk me through it? I take it that means there's not documentation online. Is there anyway you can give me a general idea and I will read up on how to do it?
[01:28] <viator> wiping
[01:29] <kitche> nozorro: cfdisk just does partition no formating
[01:29] <CurtisB> I've got a package management prob...  whenever I get updates, the update mgr says, "cannot install all available updates, Some updates require the removal of further software" (etc.) then says it can't update totem, and I need to do a dist-upgrade.  Well, it says this even after a dist-upgrade, and if I try to remove totem it inists that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment, which seems like a bad id
[01:29] <CurtisB> ea :)
[01:29] <livingdaylight> Crippy-Boy: sorry, there has to be a quicker way
[01:29] <kaosx> mke2fs -j /dev/sdb
[01:29] <nozorro> kitche: yes :-)
[01:29] <mcphail> kaosx: that won't work
[01:29] <sethk> rapiscan, the source code _is_ the documentation.  You can reverse the order of the device scan.
[01:29] <kaosx> wouldnt that work?
[01:30] <mcphail> kaosx: /dev/sdb is not a partition
[01:30] <kaosx> ah
[01:30] <Kill_X> well... anybody?
[01:30] <Crippy-Boy> sethk: Source code is documentation? I thought that was just an excuse for lazy dev's that don't wanna write docs ;-)
[01:30] <sethk> kaosx, you can create a file system on the entire device.
[01:30] <sethk> kaosx, it isn't the usual way to do it, but you can
[01:30] <kaosx> ahh
[01:31] <kaosx> still learnig
[01:31] <sethk> kaosx, and the mkfs should work.
[01:31] <Hummari> Can some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me
[01:31] <dibblego> Crippy-Boy, source code is a less ambiguous language than English and so the formality makes it more concise documentation
[01:31] <reitzell> anybody know a good ap to keep your passwords in?
[01:31] <kaosx> so whats the proper way?
[01:31] <dibblego> reitzell, mypasswordsafe
[01:31] <rapiscan> sethk:  I see, I take it this is all in C? It shouldn't be a problem then.  I'll investigate when I have some free time, and will definitely be back if I have any questions.
[01:31] <reitzell> thanks
[01:31] <sethk> kaosx, the usual way is to use fdisk to create a partition table, and then use mkfs on the partition.   however...
[01:31] <mcphail> sethk: i don't think that mkfs will work
[01:31] <Crippy-Boy> dibblego: Im sure glad i never wanted linux docs then ;-)
[01:31] <sethk> kaosx, what you did is not wrong and should have worked.
[01:31] <sethk> mcphail, it will.  I've used it that way.
[01:32] <sethk> rapiscan, k
[01:32] <mcphail> sethk: for ext3? I know you can do it for reiser
[01:32] <kitche> sethk: well mke2fs needs the filesystem for example mke2fs.ext3
[01:32] <kaosx> i figured that you wouldnt mke2fs on the mount point
[01:32] <kaosx> so i figured the device..
[01:32] <Hummari> Can some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me
[01:32] <kaosx> but i see what youre saying
[01:32] <sethk> mcphail, yes, I've done it with ext3.
[01:33] <kaosx> thats sort of how i did it in gentoo i think
[01:33] <Hummari> would be nice to get some help
[01:33] <sethk> kaosx, if that failed (what you did), it will also fail on the partition
[01:33] <AMGI> restarting pc after my resize now, hope it works
[01:33] <kitche> Hummari: I get the same thing it seems that the xorg.conf is set up wrong
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I know this problem is about 15 minutes old.. But I dropped out to windows and I did shrink a 400 gig NTFS partition to 350 gig using Partition Magic 8 and verified the drive, so it does work for the person that needed the info
[01:33] <sethk> kaosx, what happens when you use that command?  the mkfs to /dev/hdb  (or sdb, or whatever it was)
[01:34] <kaosx> dont know, i was pulling it off the top of my head for that other guy
[01:34] <zoidberg> hey guys i'm having a porblem
[01:34] <kaosx> something i thought i remembered when i set up gentoo
[01:34] <Kill_X> so nobody has got some hints for not-anymore-mounting LVM Volumes? :(
[01:34] <kaosx> im gonna try arch or debian next on my test box
[01:35] <nozorro> kaosx: the other guy was livingdaylight i think, but his problem was a boot manager problem i thought
[01:35] <sethk> kaosx, ok.  it isn't wrong, it's just not the typical way it is done.
[01:35] <zoidberg> i'm trying to ssh into another machine....both on the same internet conneciton on a college campus....and i get an error says "port 22 connection refused"...any help?
[01:35] <Kill_X> especially root-filesystems?
[01:35] <CurtisB> I've got a package management prob...  whenever I get updates, the update mgr says, "cannot install all available updates, Some updates require the removal of further software" (etc.) then says it can't update totem, and I need to do a dist-upgrade.  Well, it says this even after a dist-upgrade, and if I try to remove totem it inists that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment, which seems, well, bad...
[01:35] <CurtisB> ..... Is there a way to force removal of totem package without letting the package manager (I've been using apt-get) insist that it also needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment?  (or is the g-d-e- package an orphan?!?)
[01:35] <Hummari> there must be some1 here that can help me here
[01:35] <zoidberg> i'm trying to ssh into another machine....both on the same internet conneciton on a college campus....and i get an error says "port 22 connection refused"...any help?
[01:35] <hikenboot> question is there any way to do a comprehensive system test in linux ...I know on the windows side there is several boot cd's and software that "Comprehensively test" a system???
[01:35] <zoidberg> sorry it got chopped off before
[01:35] <zoidberg> dobt mean to spam
[01:35] <kitche> zoidberg: don't repeat but port 22 is blocked
[01:35] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: They probably blocked port 22 or ssh isn't running or not running on port 22
[01:36] <zoidberg> kitche: is there anyway i can unblock it....or perhaps change the port on both computers?
[01:36] <kaosx> curtis: you can sudo apt-get remove totem i think
[01:36] <hikenboot> I think something on my system is failing but not sure wether its the processor memory or hard drives
[01:36] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: Change the port to 443, Should work.
[01:36] <kitche> zoidberg: you can reconfigure ssh
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, possibly the machine you are attempting to connect to isn't running the ssh server
[01:36] <zoidberg> no it is
[01:36] <CurtisB> kaosx - when I try that it wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment as well!
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, it isn't installed by default.
[01:36] <zoidberg> both have dapper
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, you added it after the install?
[01:36] <kaosx> weird
[01:36] <zoidberg> are u sure sethk?
[01:36] <Hummari> Can some1 here please help me set up ubuntu 6.06, i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface)......." if there is some1 here that can help me, please message me
[01:36] <sethk> zoidberg, the client is installed by default, but not the server.
[01:37] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: you have to install the package openssh-server
[01:37] <sethk> zoidberg, yes
[01:37] <yohan> heya i just installed urxvt but the urxvt -bl doesnt work...any ideas?
[01:37] <zoidberg> does that server need to be installed on both computers
[01:37] <kitche> sethk: you don't even know what the otehr computer is running
[01:37] <yohan> -bl means borderless
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Hummari: Are you running the live cd trying toinstall?
[01:37] <sethk> zoidberg, no, only on the server.
[01:37] <sethk> zoidberg, unless of course you want to be able to connect both ways.
[01:37] <kitche> zoidberg: what's the other computer running ubuntu or another distro?
[01:37] <zoidberg> the other computer is a friends computer that i got him to put dapper on
[01:37] <zoidberg> i have dapper
[01:38] <zoidberg> we want to be able to share files
[01:38] <sethk> kitche, ubuntu on both ends
[01:38] <zoidberg> i've created an account on his computer
[01:38] <jbaby> I broke my Windows :(
[01:38] <zoidberg> so what should i do now?
[01:38] <nozorro> jbaby: good for you :-)
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: How
[01:38] <Zorlac> My ubuntu keeps locking up =[
[01:38] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on whatever your trying to connect to.
[01:38] <zoidberg> install server on both computers?
[01:38] <sethk> zoidberg, install the ssh server, then connect.  most likely it will work.  the port _may_ be blocked, but you'll never know until you check.
[01:38] <zoidberg> sethk: how can i check
[01:38] <sethk> zoidberg, if you want to connect both ways, that is, he can connect to you, and you can connect to him, then yes, both machines.
[01:39] <zoidberg> sethk: should i install the server on both
[01:39] <dibblego> telnet host 22
[01:39] <sethk> zoidberg, on the server:  netstat -na | grep 22
[01:39] <dibblego> zoidberg, install the server on the server - the machine to connect to
[01:39] <sethk> zoidberg, I answered that four times.
[01:39] <jbaby> I installed Kubuntu and it erased everything including the OS restore hidden section that ships with Dell
[01:39] <zoidberg> okay guys
[01:39] <zoidberg> give me aminute
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: Did you tell it to use the entire drive?
[01:39] <dibblego> jbaby, you are given the option - I erased that on my Dell fwiw
[01:39] <cheekie> What is the best way to deploy an installation from one machine to many in a computer lab?
[01:39] <bluefusionxl> Now let me clear things up.  If I give the Owner access to the files, that means the person who the account is running the file, correct?  Group would mean people in that group and public would be just anyone on the server?
[01:39] <Zorlac> Anyone know why ubuntu would freeze?
[01:40] <dibblego> Zorlac, it is not close enough to the equator?
[01:40] <bluefusionxl> probably a memory problem zor, run ubuntu in memtest mode
[01:40] <Zorlac> dibblego, damn, i guess i should move =[
[01:40] <jbaby> Yes, but I didnt know it would erase that hidden part
[01:40] <Zorlac> bluefusionxl, okay
[01:40] <kitche> bluefusionxl: it depends who the file owns to
[01:40] <dibblego> jbaby, it's not "hidden" - it's just a different partition
[01:40] <CurtisB> If I do 'apt-get remove totem' it also wants to remove gnome-desktop-environment... is there aq way to force the removal of only the totem package?
[01:40] <sethk> Zorlac, there is a problem.  several people tonight have been experiencing that after upgrading.
[01:40] <jbaby> I originally tried to install it on the same partition with windows but then windows wouldnt reboot
[01:40] <Zorlac> sethk, its just regular 6.06 though
[01:41] <bluefusionxl> Is there a new version of ubuntu out?
[01:41] <dibblego> jbaby, it can't go on the same partition as windows - it would have removed windows at that point
[01:41] <sethk> jbaby, if you used the entire disk, then the other stuff is gone.
[01:41] <bluefusionxl> kitchie,  what do you mean?
[01:41] <sethk> Zorlac, did you install updates?
[01:41] <ubuntu_newbie> i have a problem that i doubt anyone has had yet
[01:41] <Zorlac> sethk, i think so
[01:41] <Arigato> is it just my computer or does simultaneous sound not work on ubuntu?
[01:41] <sethk> Zorlac, several people here this evening have reported similar things after updating.  not an upgrade, just taking changes.
[01:42] <varsendaggr> Arigato, that is a good question
[01:42] <sethk> Arigato, it works, but the sound server must be correctly configured.
[01:42] <Zorlac> ahh, i guess i'll just wait
[01:42] <jbaby> Right, once I found I messed up windows, I went and installed kubuntu again but this time said use the whole hard drive but then it also erased the dell restore
[01:42] <liquidangle> shoot
[01:42] <liquidangle> lost the job today :(
[01:42] <CurtisB> Arigato - ESD enlightenment sound daemon should let you have multiple prog's access sound at once
[01:42] <ubuntu_newbie> can i get some help?
[01:42] <dibblego> jbaby, because the Dell restore is kept on the hard drive
[01:42] <sethk> Arigato, the sound server owns the sound device, and applications talk to the sound server, and that allows multiple sound apps.
[01:42] <phin> hi, i just upgraded to edgy from dapper and when i try to startx i keep getting a version mismatch error for my i810 driver, any suggestions?
[01:42] <nozorro> !ask
[01:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:42] <jbaby> I know that now LOL
[01:42] <CurtisB> ubuntu_newbie - whats the prob?
[01:42] <sethk> Arigato, if the sound server is not running, then once an app grabs the sound device, no other app can get it.
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: The drivers are available, your XP code is still good if you borrow a CD.. YOu just dont have the extras that were included with your original system.... Office and a few toys
[01:43] <liquidangle> anyone in southern cali who's company is hiring ? :)
[01:43] <chamo> hello
[01:43] <kitche> phin: yeah I got that error also it has to deal with mesalib
[01:43] <ulrikft> http://en.pastebin.ca/164776 <- can someone tell me wtf that is?
[01:43] <phin> kitche: any suggestions?
[01:43] <sethk> jbaby, if you told it to use the entire drive, why are you surprised that it used the entire drive?  What am I missing?
[01:43] <nashife> liquidangle google is always hiring. :) is that southern cali enough for you?
[01:43] <sethk> ulrikft, it's a URL
[01:43] <Kill_X> Anyone here with knowledge of LVM and mounting problems using LVM for a root filesystem?
[01:43] <kitche> phin: what verison of mesalib does edgy use do you know I had to use mesalib 6.5
[01:43] <ulrikft> sethk: ho ho ho ho
[01:43] <Groggzor> hi all, i need to talk to some1 here that know alot about Ubuntu, i am having a trouble installing ubuntu
[01:43] <ulrikft> sethk: you are TEH funney
[01:43] <liquidangle> nashife: their in central cali
[01:43] <jbaby> I thought Dell would have protected the OS more than that (for idiots like me)
[01:44] <Groggzor> getting the same error message
[01:44] <phin> kitche: how do i check?
[01:44] <chamo> ulrikft: no idea..
[01:44] <sethk> ulrikft, it's part of a hex dump.  where did you get it?
[01:44] <liquidangle> nashife: i'm closer to L.A
[01:44] <ulrikft> sethk: trying to burn the ubuntu cd
[01:44] <sethk> ulrikft, in a log file?
[01:44] <ulrikft> sethk: in freebsd
[01:44] <ulrikft> sethk: with burncd
[01:44] <nashife> liquidangle well, i'm in oregon, so it's all "southern cali" for me. :)
[01:44] <nozorro> jbaby they can't (i hope)
[01:44] <chamo> ulrikft: have you check'd their website or googled it ?
[01:44] <dibblego> jbaby, nothing to do with the OS - if they did, it would annoy people like me who want the disk that they paid for
[01:44] <pharcvde> is vim 7.0 in edgy?
[01:44] <sethk> ulrikft, that's an ioctl error, which doesn't help you much.
[01:44] <liquidangle> nashife: hahaha, where do you work my friend ?
[01:44] <ulrikft> hmm, ok.
[01:44] <eviltux> hi all
[01:45] <liquidangle> nashife: I'd like to move to the northwest
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jbaby: What model of Dell laptop?
[01:45] <nozorro> jbaby: sorry for you :-(
[01:45] <sethk> ulrikft, either a bug in the program or a problem in the burner firmware
[01:45] <liquidangle> I hate it here
[01:45] <ulrikft> i think I'll just go kill myself now, and try to find a friend with a cdburner tomorrow:P
[01:45] <jazzrocker> is the MBR only on the master HD?
[01:45] <jbaby> deimension 3000
[01:45] <jazzrocker> or does each HD (even slaves) have an MBR?
[01:45] <nashife> liquidangle well, if you've got sys admin experience, the company I'm working for is prolly hiring again soon.
[01:45] <mcphail> jazzrocker: they all have a MBR
[01:46] <nashife> liquidangle and if you wanted to move up here. :)
[01:46] <sethk> liquidangle, cali is one large parking lot.  I don't like the northwest, though, I like more civilized places.
[01:46] <jazzrocker> mcphail, which MBR actually get's booted from then? only the master drive?
[01:46] <ubuntu_newbie> has anyone gotten linux to print on a windows server?
[01:46] <liquidangle> nashife: ummm, do they re-locate ?
[01:46] <mcphail> jazzrocker: whatever one you set the BIOS to boot from
[01:46] <nozorro> liquidangle: Germany where i am is further northwest still :-)
[01:46] <jbaby> I have tried DLing windows from torrent and they none of them work so guess I am a kubuntu user LOL
[01:46] <sethk> jazzrocker, the BIOS reads the mbr from the primary master, yes
[01:46] <liquidangle> nashife: I ran my own entertainment company for a few years, I did pretty much everything :)
[01:46] <nashife> liquidangle it's possible.  we almost hired someone from Utah, but he turned down the offer.
[01:46] <jazzrocker> mcphail, most bioses i've seen don't have such an option
[01:46] <djohnny79> Hi @ll
[01:46] <bluefusionxl> what command removes users?
[01:47] <FuzzyLaptop> pffff its still not working right
[01:47] <djohnny79> anybody can help me with my monitor?
[01:47] <nozorro> bluefusionxl: deluser
[01:47] <bluefusionxl> thank you.
[01:47] <mcphail> jazzrocker: i have never seen a bios which doesn't ;)
[01:47] <liquidangle> nashife: how much sys admin experience ? i've got an A.S from I.T.T in networking, havent worked in a corp setting yet though :(
[01:47] <Groggzor> any here know about his error Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... "
[01:47] <nozorro> bluefusionxl: or use the graphical tool
[01:47] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i've never seen a bios that says "boot from master/boot from slave"
[01:47] <djohnny79> where can i set my res higher than 1024 * 768: Hardware: NVidia Geforce 2 MX/440
[01:47] <jazzrocker> mcphail, ever
[01:47] <Groggzor> please some1 help me
[01:48] <maple1> jbaby, you can ask dell to ship you your XP disc
[01:48] <jbaby> What I cant understand about Kubuntu though is how did it know how to connect to the internet without me installing anything
[01:48] <AbortD> dj system > preferences > screen resolution?
[01:48] <jbaby> I use an external DSL modem
[01:48] <[DMC] > what is the correct place to turn off a service like cups and keep it off?
[01:48] <jazzrocker> jbaby, what's not to understand. and why would Kubuntu confuse you more than Ubuntu (which will do the same thing)
[01:48] <FuzzyLaptop> OMG
[01:48] <FuzzyLaptop> ITS WORKING
[01:48] <bluefusionxl> is there a way to chmod all files and directories in a root directory?
[01:48] <AbortD> djohnny79:  system > preferences > screen resolution?
[01:48] <djohnny79> dont get it higher than 1024*768, thats just the prob @abortD
[01:48] <phin> kitche: i have 6.5.1 installed
[01:48] <mcphail> bluefusionxl: chmod -R
[01:49] <zoidberg> sethk: okay so i installed the server on my computer but not on the other...can i still access the other computer for now
[01:49] <jbaby> Well, with windows, I had to install the bellsouth cd
[01:49] <pharcvde> bluefusionxl: do chmod -R XXX dir
[01:49] <FuzzyLaptop> only now i think im still using the ati drivers instead of fglrx
[01:49] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: no
[01:49] <djohnny79> MooooooooH
[01:49] <AbortD> geforce 2?
[01:49] <jazzrocker> jbaby, no. you didn't have to install the bellsouth cd. <- they told you you had to
[01:49] <djohnny79> Yes...
[01:49] <zoidberg> but i have an account on the other computer
[01:49] <jbaby> So does that mean that windows is on my machine somewhere?
[01:49] <AbortD> will it just not allow you or when you do it screen goes blank?
[01:49] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: You need the ssh server running on the computer you want to connect to!
[01:49] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, that's an xorg setting
[01:49] <djohnny79> 2nd PC ;-) Should become a server but as my WIN PC fucked up on a virus i just wanted to try learning Linux ;)
[01:50] <DJGummikuh> language
[01:50] <pharcvde> forums are getting whored
[01:50] <OldTyme> question on install. when it goes to install it says "uncorrectable error on fat16 ide a partition 1" then it stops: im installing on ide #2 partition 2
[01:50] <kingdong> Let's keep it clean gentlemen!
[01:50] <sethk> zoidberg, you can only log into the machine that is running the server that you just installed.
[01:50] <kaot> !restricted
[01:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:50] <zoidberg> damn....well i cant install the server on that machine right now
[01:50] <bluefusionxl> so if I wanted to chmod all files in /home with a sudo chmod -R 700 /home
[01:50] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: The server runs on the machine you want to connect to, And you connect with the client.
[01:50] <ubuntu_newbie> has anyone ever been able to print to a windows server printer
[01:50] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[01:50] <bluefusionxl> then itll m,ake all files in there 700?
[01:50] <sethk> jbaby, no, if you said "use entire disk", there are superblocks written in various places, and windows is gone.
[01:50] <djohnny79> jazzrocker :Where can i change this? Just loaded the drivers and changed as the prog told me, but nothing REALLY changed...
[01:51] <zoidberg> but it did say before when i was just trying to ssh that port 22 was restricted or something
[01:51] <zoidberg> can i unrestrict that on my machine and his....i mean change the port or something
[01:51] <Crippy-Boy> zoidberg: because it was trying to connect to something that wasnt there
[01:51] <livingdaylight> what is the command for making ext3?
[01:51] <ubuntu_newbie> jesus...this doesnt make any sense
[01:51] <jbaby> Ok, then how did kubuntu know I had a dsl modem without me installing the software?
[01:51] <sethk> zoidberg, I don't believe it's a port issue.  you can change it, but it won't help this problem.
[01:51] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, loaded what drivers. changed what as what program told you what. if nothing "really" changed, what did change
[01:51] <djohnny79> ok.. giot the nvidia logo on startup, but dont get res higher...
[01:51] <kingdong> mke2fs
[01:51] <zoidberg> okay
[01:51] <livingdaylight> making ext3 for sdb1
[01:51] <zoidberg> thanks a lot guys
[01:51] <nozorro> djohnny79: read here:
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu_newbie:   Did you use this page to get that going  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[01:52] <zoidberg> i really appreciate all the help
[01:52] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, installing the nvidia drivers doesn't change your resolution for you
[01:52] <nozorro> !fixres
[01:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:52] <djohnny79> sorry im n00b ...
[01:52] <sethk> zoidberg, if I understand correctly, you are still trying to connect _to_ a machine where the ssh server isn't running.
[01:52] <zoidberg> i'll just get my friend to install the server later
[01:52] <livingdaylight> kingdong: mke2fs /dev/sdb1   ??
[01:52] <jazzrocker> djohnny79, don't be sorry, just modify your behavior
[01:52] <sethk> zoidberg, good idea.  :)
[01:52] <zoidberg> no sethk its cool...the guys is just not at hi computer right now... i understand thanx a lot
[01:52] <Groggzor> I need some help installing upuntu, getting the same fucking error message all the time, i really need to get ubuntu up so i can do my homework
[01:52] <djohnny79> :-)
[01:52] <nozorro> !fixres > djohnny79
[01:52] <ubuntu_newbie> the problem is that its not a xp machine
[01:52] <DBO> !language > Groggzor
[01:52] <ubuntu_newbie> its a windows serber 2003 :(
[01:52] <zoidberg> okay guys one more thing
[01:52] <ubuntu_newbie> server*
[01:53] <kingdong> livingdaylight, add a -j if you want ext3
[01:53] <ompaul> !language
[01:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:53] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: don't be too hard on him he barely understands anything on linux yet
[01:53] <livingdaylight> kingdong: add that where? could you show me?
[01:53] <zoidberg> so the only reason i have XP right now still on this machine is because of my Tv-Tuner card...its an ATI TV_Wonder Pro or something
[01:53] <sethk> Groggzor, ask a question
[01:53] <chamo> hehe
[01:53] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, who barely what when why?
[01:53] <zoidberg> can i get that to work in UBUNTU?
[01:53] <nick_> !kill
[01:53] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:53] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, i haven't been "hard" on anyone
[01:53] <kingdong> livingdaylight, just to make sure you are ready to lose all the existing data on this partition correct?
[01:53] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: djohnny79 :)
[01:53] <bluefusionxl> sudo chmod -R 700 /home
[01:53] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, go read smart-questions.
[01:54] <sethk> zoidberg, I'm not sure whether that particular card is supported.  look at the video4linux web site.
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> hey guys...  I typed "sudo chmod -R 700 /home
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> oops
[01:54] <livingdaylight> kingdong: yes
[01:54] <djohnny79> mom just readin the help...
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> hey guys...  I typed "sudo chmod -R 700 /home" and my ftp wont let me on
[01:54] <bluefusionxl> anymore
[01:54] <DJGummikuh> I kinda knocked him into linux lately :) he couldn't tell init from x so far ;)
[01:54] <zoidberg> sethk: its not a video card....its just tv-tuner card
[01:54] <sethk> zoidberg, I know
[01:54] <gottreu> Does ubuntu have a 3270 emulator?
[01:54] <sethk> zoidberg, tv is video
[01:54] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack_Sparrow...the computer is a server 2003 machine
[01:54] <zoidberg> lol
[01:54] <zoidberg> ok
[01:54] <gottreu> I _thought_ it did, but I might have been thinking about CentOS.
[01:54] <zoidberg> lol
[01:54] <jbaby> How do I install my CDs like frontpage cause I always get error messages
[01:54] <kingdong> livingdaylight, then do sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdx      (where hdx is the drive/partition)
[01:55] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, because you encouraged him to use Linux doesn't entitle him to special treatment <- and I still maintain i haven't been at all "hard" on anyone
[01:55] <Groggzor> i alwasy get "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... " when i am trying to install ubuntu
[01:55] <thinkle> Hi all -- I'm interested in trying out the new GNOME release and wanted to know if an edgy upgrade would be a bad idea (I'm pretty savvy but wanted to make sure there weren't major known issues atm)
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu_newbie: I saw a page for setting up a nteware printer but the Win 2003 server dosnet conform to that does it?
[01:55] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: -.- you really didn't get the irony in it did you?
[01:55] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, there wasn't any irony
[01:56] <livingdaylight> kingdong: thx, so i got sata so it'd be mke2fffs -j /dev/sdb1
[01:56] <kingdong> thinkle: no major issues i'm aware of... but you never know
[01:56] <DJGummikuh> jazzrocker: in MY post you nut
[01:56] <jazzrocker> DJGummikuh, there wasn't any irony in your post
[01:56] <bluefusionxl> guys I have a question.  I chmodded all my files in /home to 700, and my ftp wouldnt let me on anymore.  I chmodded them to 777 and they did.  Why is that?
[01:56] <livingdaylight> Is it true if i have two hardrives then i only need one swap?
[01:56] <thinkle> kingdong  - right, but I'll go ahead and git it a whirl. At best I'll provide some useful bug reports, right :)
[01:56] <jbaby> How do you install setup.exe files in kubuntu? I cant install Frontpage
[01:56] <FuzzyLaptop> btw how do you just restart yr shell?
[01:56] <DJGummikuh> bluefusionxl: because with ftp you are not your user but an ftp user
[01:56] <thinkle> s/at best/at worst/
[01:56] <bluefusionxl> Wine
[01:56] <kingdong> thinkle, yes ;)
[01:56] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack_Sparrow i didnt see that page
[01:56] <Seveas> jbaby, you can't
[01:56] <kingdong> livingdaylight, sounds good
[01:56] <DJGummikuh> change the permissions to 755 and you should be fine
[01:56] <gottreu> jbaby: you don't
[01:56] <nozorro> !wine
[01:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:56] <cheatersrealm> what's the package for kde under ubuntu?
[01:56] <kingdong> cheatersrealm, kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <Seveas> cheatersrealm, kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <nick_> how do you kill an app through GUI under kubuntu
[01:57] <cheatersrealm> yikes
[01:57] <Seveas> nick_, xkill
[01:57] <cheatersrealm> thanks
[01:57] <jbaby> Can you run frontpage through Wine?
[01:57] <nick_> seveas: thanks
[01:57] <Seveas> jbaby, no
[01:57] <phin> kitche: ping
[01:57] <kingdong> jbaby, try vmware
[01:57] <[DMC] > what is the correct config to turn off a service like cups and keep it off?
[01:57] <jazzrocker> jbaby, oh god, please don't run frontpage!
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu_newbie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetwarePrintingFromUbuntu
[01:57] <bluefusionxl> I dont want my users to see my files though
[01:57] <jbaby> VMware?
[01:57] <Seveas> jbaby, ditch frontpage and use nvu or bluefish
[01:57] <livingdaylight> kingdong: did you saygood for 1 swap is ok for two hardrives?
[01:57] <jazzrocker> jbaby, if you want to run native windows apps your best bet is vmware-server. google.
[01:57] <nozorro> jbaby VMware, sure. Wine, not sure.
[01:58] <kingdong> jbaby, vmware-server is free, allows you to run a windows environment within ubuntu
[01:58] <Kill_X> got a startup problem, pre-init saying "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"
[01:58] <kingdong> it's not super fast but it works great.
[01:58] <jbaby> Ive tried, NVU, it has no features
[01:58] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: me personally i use 1 swap for each harddrive
[01:58] <Groggzor> I am trying to install Ubuntu but i always get the same error message "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... " any know what i need to do ?????
[01:58] <Kill_X> anyone able to help?
[01:58] <cheatersrealm> Groggzor: probably edit your xorg.conf file
[01:58] <kingdong> livingdaylight, sorry please say again?
[01:58] <cheatersrealm> Groggzor: are you familiar with linux?
[01:58] <sethk> Kill_X, paste your kernel command line
[01:59] <jazzrocker> jbaby, don't use WYSIWYG web editors. they are bad for your health and bad for my sanity. and bad for the health and sanity of anyone who has to look at your code. and bad for your SEO. and bad in general.
[01:59] <jbaby> Im pretty much too lazy for NVU
[01:59] <OldTyme> on install i set my partitions. one for / & one for swap....after it formats & goes to install i get a "Error on IDE1" & it stops...... im installing on IDE #2. why is it even messing w/ 1. thkx
[01:59] <livingdaylight> kingdong: i got two sata drives. Is one swap enough for the two hd's?
[01:59] <nick_> seveas: how do you view the processes through GUI...control + Alt + ?
[01:59] <sethk> nick_, tab
[01:59] <kingdong> livingdaylight, yes you only need one swap partition
[01:59] <Kill_X> sethk, what exactly do you mean? Debug messages right before that?
[01:59] <jbaby> Dreamweaver is cool though
[01:59] <jazzrocker> jbaby, go to #css and learn the ways of the true web master
[01:59] <sethk> nick_, just alt
[01:59] <Groggzor> nope i am not familiar with linux, never used it before
[01:59] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: If you NEED to run frontpage you'll have to use wine, but you really shouldnt touch frontpage, The code it genrates is nasty.
[01:59] <jazzrocker> jbaby, using Dreamweaver to code a site is like trying to perform surgery with oven mitts on
[02:00] <sethk> Kill_X, no, the kernel command line, usually from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <thinkle> livingdaylight, System->Administration->System Monitor
[02:00] <jazzrocker> Crippy-Boy, no, he can use vmware-server. and in fact that's probably way better than wine.
[02:00] <livingdaylight> kingdong: thx
[02:00] <kingdong> np livingdaylight
[02:00] <jbaby> Wow, yall dont like WYSISYG do ya lol
[02:00] <sethk> jbaby, what you see is _all_ you get
[02:00] <Crippy-Boy> jazzrocker: Yeah, running it inside a VM which will slow it down, how exactly is that 'way better'
[02:00] <brian98_Laptop> Hi,, just wondering any recommendations about migrating a ubuntu install to a new drive?
[02:00] <jazzrocker> jbaby, it's not a dislike, its a proven fact that they generate crappy code.
[02:00] <designDream> i am currently running debian.. any docs into moving into ubuntu?
[02:01] <kingdong> jbaby use it if you want but we will try to discourage you ;)
[02:01] <jazzrocker> Crippy-Boy, hardly. way better = actually works and runs natively. e.g. IE in wine does *not* render the same as the native version
[02:01] <nick_> sethk: just alt isn't working...im using kubuntu
[02:01] <sethk> jazzrocker, hey, I can generate crappy code with any editor.
[02:01] <jbaby> My site didnt work no more in Linux, i couldnt view everything that I could see before in windows
[02:01] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack_Sparrow negative
[02:01] <Kill_X> sethk, actually I don't have access to my menu.lst right now. But, since I have not touched that file for weeks and the error just occured 5 hours ago, I don't think, that's the issue...
[02:01] <kingdong> i agree with jazzrocker.
[02:01] <jazzrocker> sethk, yes you can, but you cannot generate clean code with dreamweaver or any other wysiwyg app
[02:01] <Crippy-Boy> jazzrocker: So running in a VM is 'native' now?
[02:01] <sethk> nick_, so am I. perhaps I misunderstood the question.
[02:02] <sethk> jazzrocker, I don't use them, but I'm skeptical about a statement like that.
[02:02] <jbaby> And that was through linuxs browser vs windows browser
[02:02] <designDream> can a debian install be converted to ubuntu?
[02:02] <sethk> jazzrocker, if only because the vast majority of programmers use wysiwyg, so there isn't a valid control group that doesn't.
[02:02] <nick_> sethk: theres a keyboard command that you press to view the processors table to kill applications
[02:02] <OldTyme> on install i set my partitions. one for / & one for swap....after it formats & goes to install i get a "Error on IDE1" & it stops...... im installing on IDE #2. why is it even messing w/ 1. thkx
[02:02] <jazzrocker> sethk, uhhhh, i'm skeptical of THAT statement
[02:02] <Groggzor> can some PLEASE message me than know how to fix this, i am always getting the same error when i am trying to install Ubuntu "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface). ... "
[02:02] <sethk> nick_, let me check something.
[02:02] <jazzrocker> sethk, where the *hell* do you get your data saying that "most programmers use wysiwyg" <- that's completely bogus
[02:02] <sethk> jazzrocker, oh yah???   :)
[02:02] <nick_> sethk: ok thanlks
[02:03] <asdx> edgy will be released in october?
[02:03] <sethk> jazzrocker, oh, not, absolutely not.  there are statistics gathered about that.
[02:03] <jesus_> hello
[02:03] <jesus_> i need help
[02:03] <jazzrocker> sethk, show me
[02:03] <Crippy-Boy> wysiwyg has its uses, As does coding 'properly'
[02:03] <nozorro> asdx: yep
[02:03] <jesus_> i recently installed my ubuntu distro
[02:03] <jesus_> but i have no sound :S
[02:03] <Kill_X> sethk, my rootfs is on an LVM volume, but somehow the system refuses to mount that volume saying, that the respective device does not exist. But actually the device exists...
[02:03] <enrique> hello
[02:03] <gnomefreak> asdx: late oct and please join #ubuntu+1 for edgy topics
[02:03] <asdx> ok
[02:03] <jesus_> hola enrique
[02:03] <enrique> THIS IS MY VERY FIRST TIME HERE
[02:03] <jazzrocker> omg
[02:03] <jbaby> Do all applications that you have running when you reboot normally come back on when it boots back up?
[02:03] <ubuntu_newbie> jesus_ install easyubuntu @ www.easyubuntu.com
[02:04] <enrique> and all of you know how to use linux?
[02:04] <jazzrocker> enrique, far from all.
[02:04] <gnomefreak> enrique_: lose the caps please
[02:04] <asdx> gnomefreak: but i guess ubuntu would release every in 6 months
[02:04] <asdx> ?
[02:04] <sethk> Kill_X, I didn't say the line is wrong.  I said I need to see the line to know how to troubleshoot the problem.
[02:04] <gnomefreak> asdx: yes give or take
[02:04] <enrique> got it
[02:04] <jesus_> what is easyubuntu?
[02:04] <ubuntu_newbie> Jack__Sparrow that netware thing didnt work
[02:04] <Kill_X> sethk, well, do you have some minutes?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[02:04] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:05] <jesus_> hmm thanks
[02:05] <ubuntu_newbie> jesus_ also automatix
[02:05] <enrique> can anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?
[02:05] <ubuntu_newbie> !automatix
[02:05] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:05] <enrique> please
[02:05] <Kill_X> gotta boot the 6.10.1 livecd and get my wlan working
[02:05] <jesus_> it will make my box sound again?
[02:05] <sethk> nick_, let me check something.
[02:05] <jesus_> cause i was using kanotix
[02:05] <jazzrocker> sethk, you still haven't shown me these magical "gathered statistics" or who gathered them or under what thesis/bias
[02:05] <jesus_> i decided to test ubuntu
[02:05] <sethk> nick_, do you mean alt-F5?
[02:05] <ivaldi> Hello. I am having a problem with changing my sound volume with the volume keys on my keyboard. They do bring up the volume meter, but changes the wrong alsa channel. Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[02:05] <sethk> jazzrocker, indeed, I can't do two things at once.  but google for it, you'll find it, or wait until I find it.
[02:05] <nick_> sethk: nope
[02:06] <jbaby> I installed Automatix, got a lot of errors  but everything it installed seems to work
[02:06] <enrique> can anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?
[02:06] <nick_> sethk: i think its control + alt +
[02:06] <jazzrocker> sethk, what exactly should i google for. "wysiwyg are teh leet" ?
[02:06] <liquidangle> anyone else in southern california who's company is hiring for entry level ?
[02:06] <sethk> nick_, there is no key to install that.
[02:06] <jesus_> i have ubuntu hoary hedgehog 50.4
[02:06] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk can you help me to print to my windows print server
[02:06] <jesus_> 5.04
[02:06] <gnomefreak> liquidangle: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:06] <nick_> sethk: ok because i made it come up beofre when i was fooling around
[02:06] <sethk> jazzrocker, if you are serious and not just trolling, you would look for user estimates of the various development tools
[02:06] <nick_> sethk: thanks anyway
[02:06] <superjew9020> can someon help me im tryin to use rtorrent but every time  i try and start it it says it could not load "~/.rtorrent.rc"
[02:06] <Kill_X> sethk: It'll take about 5 minutes, I'll be back as fast as possible...
[02:06] <Groggzor> any here that can help me please
[02:06] <liquidangle> gnomefreak: sure thing
[02:07] <jbaby> I am surprised NVU is considerred WYSIWYG, Its a pain in the butt
[02:07] <jazzrocker> sethk, uhhhh, that's an extremely loaded and validly flawed syllogism there buddy
[02:07] <enrique> can anybody help me on how to connect 2 ubuntu computers together to see each other's files?
[02:07] <superjew9020> can anyone help meeeeeee
[02:07] <ACU> How to I urar an rar file (what Linux application can I use) ?
[02:07] <sethk> jazzrocker, if you are interested, the figures are there.  If you don't care enough to look it up, well, it doesn't make any difference to me.
[02:07] <Crippy-Boy> ACU@ unrar
[02:08] <jazzrocker> sethk, *you* are the one making this claim that there are "gathered statistics" and that you've seen said statistics
[02:08] <jesus_> hmmm
[02:08] <enrique> can anybody help me?
[02:08] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk some help please?
[02:08] <jesus_> the sound is now working
[02:08] <jesus_> :S
[02:08] <enrique> with networking?
[02:08] <jesus_> estrange :S
[02:08] <jazzrocker> sethk, burden of proof is yours. dig?
[02:08] <kingdong> it is the burden of the person making the claim to support the claim
[02:08] <Groggzor> is there some other irc channel that is better to get some help for Ubuntu?
[02:08] <sethk> jazzrocker, indeed.  I have absolutely no obligation to justify anything whatsoever to you.
[02:08] <nozorro> enrique, it depends on what you want to do
[02:08] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, ask a question and we'll try.
[02:09] <jazzrocker> sethk, of course not, unless you want people to take you seriously.
[02:09] <superjew9020> helllloooooo
[02:09] <enrique> i want to connect to pcs with ubuntu to see the files from both hard drives
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk can you please help me to print to my windows print server?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> jazzrocker: and seth please drop it
[02:09] <sethk> jazzrocker, this isn't even a #ubuntu question, so take it off line please
[02:09] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, you use samba to do that, so question one is, is samba installed?
[02:09] <mark_> Problem: firefox mplayerplug-in can't play mp3 files, and anyway i'd prefer they open in xmms instead of fullscreen in firefox. any ideas?
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk its a windows server 2003 server on AD
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk samba is installed
[02:09] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, AD?
[02:09] <nozorro> enrique: that is to say, both should see the other's user's files?
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk Active Directory
[02:10] <enrique> yep
[02:10] <enrique> please help
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk for authentication
[02:10] <enrique> i need to synchronize my desktop and laptops
[02:10] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, ok.  I don't think active directory is going to prevent you from accessing a shared printer, but I'm not a windows expert by any means.
[02:10] <superjew9020> can someon help me im tryin to use rtorrent but every time  i try and start it it says it could not load "~/.rtorrent.rc"
[02:10] <nozorro> enrique: to sync, that's not that easy
[02:11] <enrique> i mean at least i want to be able to transfer files back and forth with a network cable than with a flash drive or my ipod
[02:11] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk well active directory aside.. i cannot print
[02:11] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, the cups admin gui can be used to browse for windows printers.
[02:11] <enrique> i just wanna be able to come home and send the stuff from my laptop to my desktop everynight
[02:11] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk but the windows printer isnt configured for cups
[02:11] <nozorro> enrique: youcan right click on folder and select 'share' and follow from there
[02:11] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, that doesn't matter.
[02:12] <enrique> yeah but how do you set up stuff?
[02:12] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk so how do i use the cups admin gui
[02:12] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, that would matter if you want to access a printer connected to a linux box, from windows
[02:12] <enrique> like which program to use
[02:12] <superjew9020> can u guys help me or not
[02:12] <enrique> or do i need samba?
[02:12] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, you run a browser as root and use the url   http://localhost:631
[02:13] <sethk> superjew9020, sorry, I don't know the answer
[02:13] <nozorro> enrique: samba maybe.
[02:13] <superjew9020> ok
[02:13] <sethk> enrique, you can use scp and sftp.  cygwin has the windows side programs.
[02:13] <enrique> i thought there be an easier way
[02:13] <superjew9020> can anyone else help me
[02:13] <sethk> enrique, sftp is quite easy
[02:13] <enrique> yeah but i don't use cygwin
[02:14] <sethk> enrique, install it.
[02:14] <enrique> but i have gftp
[02:14] <enrique> which is quite easy
[02:14] <Crippy-Boy> superjew9020: i dont know nothing about rtorrent but it sounds like its looking for a script that isnt there.
[02:14] <sethk> enrique, you can run an ftp server on the linux side easily enough
[02:14] <nozorro> enrique, you sadi ubuntu on both machines
[02:14] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk could you advise me what to do at the page?
[02:14] <enrique> i just want like to connect 2 pcs with an ethernet cable and be able to see the hard drives from both pcs
[02:14] <nozorro> you sadi*
[02:14] <enrique> yeah
[02:14] <enrique> ubuntu on laptop and xubuntu on desktop
[02:14] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: paste the full message it gives you to pastebin please
[02:15] <nozorro> enrique: it's doesn't wokr just like this
[02:15] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, you add a printer.  the interesting part will be where you specify the "port" for the printer.
[02:15] <superjew9020> its only three lines
[02:15] <Crippy-Boy> superjew9020: and is it actually in your home directory?
[02:15] <jbaby> Is VMWare a big time resource hog??
[02:15] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: are you sure its ~/.rtorrent.rc?
[02:15] <superjew9020> yeah
[02:16] <superjew9020> definetly
[02:16] <gnomefreak> jbaby: how about taking random comments to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <sethk> jbaby, yes
[02:16] <zenwifi> sup
[02:16] <Crippy-Boy> gnomefreak: It wasnt a comment, it was a question...
[02:16] <enrique> what about that program "UNISION" or something
[02:16] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: open your home dir in nautilus and click ctrl +h
[02:16] <enrique> has anybody tried it?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[02:16] <eugman> Anyone who knows the command line well, some help with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop would be appreciated.
[02:17] <nozorro> enrique: if you have ubuntu on both machines, install openssh-on the desktop system. you can then connect from the laptop using the file manager
[02:17] <jbaby> Someone in the room told me to try VMware and I was asking was it a resource hog
[02:17] <superjew9020> ok now wat
[02:17] <nozorro> enrique: i wanted to say install openssh-server
[02:17] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: Yes it is.
[02:17] <gnomefreak> any VMs are resource hogs
[02:18] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: do you see the file it asks for?
[02:18] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: If your trying to run it just for frontpage, Look for an alternative to frontpage.
[02:18] <enrique> the thing i would like to do is to be able to see the pc drives on the /media/ folder in the laptop and the laptop drives in the /media/ folder in the pc
[02:18] <superjew9020> uhh h/o
[02:18] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk im getting a no matches found error
[02:18] <enrique> sounds weird?
[02:18] <superjew9020> its not there
[02:19] <Red-Sox> can someone please highlight me
[02:19] <Kill_X> sethk: re
[02:19] <gnomefreak> eugman: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ping me there
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox: what?
[02:19] <Kill_X> sethk: wait a secont, have to mount my rootfs
[02:19] <Red-Sox> ah crap
[02:19] <Red-Sox> hold on
[02:19] <Red-Sox> okay, try again
[02:19] <Kill_X> *second
[02:19] <jbaby> Ok, but theres other progz that I have for windows like yahoo messenger and games, but I only have 256mb mem. Is it even worth trying VM?
[02:19] <Kill_X> ^^
[02:19] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk the printer is shared so i dont know whats wrong
[02:20] <superjew9020> gnomefreak iits not there
[02:20] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: than i suggest you make one or have rtorrent generate one if you can
[02:20] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: there are plenty of alternatives for yahoo etc. And no with 256 ram dont run VMWare
[02:20] <kitche> jbaby: well you can use gaim for yahoo messenger and games your kinda stuck with windows
[02:21] <jbaby> ok
[02:21] <LOL> how can I create a Sticky Notes (the gnome applet) shortcut on my desktop?
[02:21] <nozorro> enrique: use the ssh server on both sides then.
[02:21] <superjew9020> uhh how?
[02:21] <jbaby> Linux games kinda remind me of an atari 2600 lol
[02:21] <Red-Sox> Can someone say my name again please?
[02:21] <ubuntu_newbie> lol
[02:21] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox:
[02:21] <nozorro> enrique: read here for an intro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[02:21] <Kill_X> sethk: so...
[02:21] <jbaby> LOL: Drag and drop
[02:21] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: hello?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox: i think you need to use #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[02:21] <sethk> Kill_X, sorry, I'm on a call, give me a moment.
[02:21] <LOL> jbaby from where?
[02:21] <enrique> i know how ssh works, i would be able to log in to another computer and work on it but i want to be able to send the files from one to the other and vice versa fast like with cut and paste
[02:21] <Kill_X> sethk: what line do you need?
[02:22] <Red-Sox> gnomefreak: no one answered :(
[02:22] <enrique> i will, thanks nozorro
[02:22] <Kill_X> sethk: ah, k
[02:22] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, sorry, I'm tied up for a few more minutes.
[02:22] <jbaby> Actually, I have Sticky note in my taskbar
[02:22] <zebedee> Good evening all... a couple of questions... Does anyone know of an easy to use c compiler (as complete novice) to compile driver for my RTL8180L wireless Lan card? and... I need advice pls on copying my hardrive (size 4gb) contents to new 10gb hardrive, soon to be ex win98! (connect to machine as slave and then,,,?). Many thx in advance, Zebedee
[02:22] <Crippy-Boy> Hahaha this is awesome, Watching family guy in ascii.
[02:22] <nozorro> enrique: it will do exactly that, using the nautilus file manager.
[02:22] <superjew9020> Gnomefreak how do i do that??
[02:22] <kitche> enrique: you can use scp which is ssh copy
[02:22] <LOL> jbaby, yup, i dont notice the small icon and forget to open them though so i want it to be on my desktop
[02:22] <jbaby> Nope not on my desktop
[02:22] <Kill_X> sethk: I'll be 5mins afk meanwhile ;)
[02:22] <enrique> kewl kewl
[02:22] <bluefusionxl> hey.. my webmin says apache isnt started.  But it is, what do you suppose is wrong?
[02:23] <enrique> i gotta go, but thanks, and i'll read that how to
[02:23] <enrique> thanks nozorro
[02:23] <ubuntu_newbie> all thats stopping me from a complete switch to ubuntu is this stupid printer issue
[02:23] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, it's shared with no restrictions at all?
[02:23] <nozorro> enrique: if you have the ssh server on both sides, you can use drag and drop in file manager. just make sure that you have the same user accounts on both sides, and read how to do passwordless authentication
[02:23] <gnomefreak> superjew9020: you can make one with mkdir ~/.rtorrent.rc but it will be empty you will need the default file maybe get it from the rtorrent site i dont know how rtorrent works but maybe using sudo apt-get install --reinstall rtorrent might work
[02:24] <enrique> passwordless authentication?????? you got me there dude, i have never heard of that
[02:24] <enrique> its gonna ask me for my password
[02:24] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: i believe so but i'll check again
[02:25] <nozorro> enrique: configure ssh not to use passwords, for ease of use. it's possible
[02:25] <kingdong> you can authenticate ssh with keys
[02:25] <Crippy-Boy> enrique: Use public key authentication.
[02:25] <enrique> ok, i'll check the man pages
[02:25] <jbaby> Is there a place I can get Nortin I.S. for kubuntu?
[02:25] <enrique> they are kicking me out
[02:25] <enrique> thanks again nozorro
[02:25] <enrique> gotta go
[02:25] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: no but you dont need that.
[02:25] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: the rights say that anyone has the right to print
[02:26] <nozorro> enrique: google for that: passwordless authentication ssh. there's different ways to achieve that
[02:26] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: But if you feel you need to have an av/firewall theres a few alternatives.
[02:26] <jbaby> I wouldnt wanna open Email att without AV
[02:26] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: There arent many virii for linux, but if you need an av to feel save, Grab clamAV or i think avast do a linux version
[02:27] <kingdong> generally speaking you shouldn't open e-mail attachments with executables
[02:27] <kingdong> unless the binary is signed by someone you trust
[02:27] <kingdong> whether you have AV or not.
[02:27] <jbaby> Well, I have a computer illiterate girlfriend and kids who just get mouseclick happy
[02:27] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: anyone can print
[02:28] <corevette> would anyone know why my netgear wg311t wouldn't work with linux?
[02:28] <PathagenX> !repos
[02:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:28] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, is it possible for you to browse for printers using a windows box that does not authenticate to the domain server?
[02:28] <Kill_X> sethk: I'm back... mind a pm?
[02:28] <sethk> Kill_X, no, I don't mind.
[02:28] <PathagenX> !repositories
[02:28] <linux1> latest updates from ubuntu ok to install, no known problems?
[02:29] <jbaby> Oh yeah, How do I install my digicam?
[02:29] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, if a windows box that is unknown to the domain server sees the printer, then we'll know it's unrelated to authentication
[02:29] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, we have to narrow it down in some manner.
[02:29] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: well to access the server a computer must provide authentication
[02:29] <klug> what is a recomended gnome program to burn iso files >?
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> GnomeBaker
[02:30] <linux1> latest updates from ubuntu ok to install? any known problems?
[02:30] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, right, but is the server moderating access to the printer?
[02:30] <ladydoor> !repeat
[02:30] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:30] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, the printer isn't connected to the domain server?  or is it?
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> or install kdelibs and k3b(which i prefer) but theyre both just front ends for command line utils
[02:31] <jbaby> klug: I use KBR to install ISO files
[02:31] <CorpseFeeder> Setting up RT61 wireless card for WPA-PSK. I'm editing file rt61sta.dat - what do I put in "AuthMode="? it currently says "OPEN"
[02:31] <klug> thanx jbaby
[02:31] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: the printer is connected to the domain server
[02:31] <ladydoor> linux1: and that depends. do you mean dist-upgrading to edgy or just upgrading to the latest dapper packages?
[02:31] <jbaby> KBR
[02:31] <jbaby> KB3 not KBR
[02:31] <linux1> latest dapper
[02:31] <klug> ahh
[02:31] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, ah, then samba has to log into the server also.
[02:31] <ladydoor> linux1: i didn't have any problems...
[02:31] <klug> for gnome ehh ?
[02:31] <linux1> lady , ok thank you
[02:31] <jbaby> I dont know that gnome
[02:31] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: oookk...so how do i do that?
[02:31] <jbaby> I dont know what gnome is
[02:32] <Crippy-Boy> klug: GnomeBaker for gnome, I just prefer k3b
[02:32] <ubuntu_newbie> lol
[02:32] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, there is a howto around about accessing windows shares.  it talks about authentication.  Of course you are doing printing, not shares, but the authentication is the same for both
[02:32] <gnomefreak> k3b?
[02:32] <jbaby> Does Kubuntu have Gnome and KBE both?
[02:32] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, check out smbpasswd
[02:33] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: where is this howto?
[02:33] <linux1> jbaby: no kubuntu =kde ubuntu=gnome
[02:33] <asiatic> ?firefox
[02:33] <gnomefreak> jbaby: you can install gnome and kde on the same system
[02:33] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, anyone know the URL for the howto about accessing windows network resources from linux?
[02:33] <jbaby> Whats the difference between the two?
[02:33] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: Alot, Try them and see for yourself.
[02:34] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, someone will come up with it; in the meantime do a search on the ubuntu site.
[02:34] <PathagenX> I hate gnome-xchat
[02:34] <asiatic> !firefox
[02:34] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:34] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: thanx for all ur help sethk
[02:34] <CorpseFeeder> What do I put for AuthMode= and EncryptType= if I am seting up for WPA-PSK? I know it is AuthMode=SHARED and EncryptType=WEP for WEP, but I am not using WEP. What do I put in the file for WPA-PSK?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> PathagenX: its xchat-gnome and mmost people didnt like it so it was removed from dapper install
[02:34] <PathagenX> I ripped out firefox and installed epiphany
[02:34] <jbaby> Which one does windows have? Gnome or KDE?
[02:34] <Crippy-Boy> jbaby: neither
[02:35] <ladydoor> jbaby: neither
[02:35] <PathagenX> Uhm? o.o Windows has explorer
[02:35] <kingdong> you can get gtk+ for windows to ease porting
[02:35] <jbaby> KDE is the desktop?
[02:35] <nozorro> PathagenX: epiphany should come by default with ubuntu
[02:35] <gnomefreak> jbaby: yes
[02:35] <asiatic> !terminal
[02:35] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:35] <PathagenX> Windows is laike Linux with KDE installed but faster
[02:35] <gnomefreak> asiatic: what is it you are looking for?
[02:35] <kingdong> KDE ->  =(
[02:36] <Crippy-Boy> PathagenX: Windows is like linux with KDE installed? *head in hands*
[02:36] <asiatic> im new to this whole thing
[02:36] <asiatic> so i dont know
[02:36] <PathagenX> Yea. Crap
[02:36] <jbaby> KUBU does seem faster than windows
[02:36] <sris> is there a commando available in ubuntu that does the same thing as sockstat?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> asiatic: do you need help with ubuntu?
[02:36] <Crippy-Boy> PathagenX: in your opinion...
[02:37] <PathagenX> Yea..
[02:37] <sethk> sris, netstat
[02:37] <kidko> Anybody know where I could get something like XML::Parser Perl Module? I need it to compile a program...
[02:37] <PathagenX> easy source sucks
[02:37] <sethk> kidko, CPAN
[02:38] <gnomefreak> PathagenX: please take your opinions somewhere else
[02:38] <klug> will ubuntu 6.06.1  come with ati drivers,  and a 3d accelorator (to play Unreal Tournament 2004)  ?
[02:38] <CorpseFeeder> oik oik oik! flibble.
[02:38] <Crippy-Boy> PathagenX: is there anything you dont think 'sucks'
[02:38] <klug> or will i have to go through bunk like in Debian ?
[02:38] <PathagenX> Stuff that works
[02:38] <Crippy-Boy> PathagenX: I mean, if you can do a better job, Please bless us all...
[02:38] <PathagenX> Stuff that works is cool.
[02:38] <gnomefreak> klug: no you need to install them from multiverse repo see /msg ubotu ati   for more info
[02:39] <klug> oh ok,  well at least it is froma repo
[02:39] <CorpseFeeder> i want to edit my ra61sta.dat file but i can't because i don't know how
[02:39] <sky123>  hello..ive been trying to get openldap with tls working...but ran in to a roadblock...i copied over the public cert.pem into the client side....but i receive some errors.
[02:39] <klug> gnomefreak:  will i have to edit  apt.sources for multiverse ?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> klug: yes
[02:40] <gnomefreak> !repos > klug
[02:40] <klug> thanx pal
[02:40] <gnomefreak> klug: your pm has instructions
[02:40] <james296> how can I make Skype use the Gnome interface?
[02:40] <sky123> the errors are ldap_starttls_s: Connect error Sep  8 19:34:48 vm1 sshd(pam_unix)[3050] : check pass; user unknown Sep  8 19:34:48 vm1 sshd[3050] : pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP server can someone help with this?
[02:40] <PathagenX> Imma need a nice sources.list pasted to me, please, someone?
[02:41] <PathagenX> !repos > PathagenX
[02:41] <adil> hello everyone :)
[02:42] <Crippy-Boy> 'Lo :-)
[02:42] <adil> the highest level is root (i hope i am right:) ). what is the one right under it?
[02:42] <adil> the highest a user can have
[02:42] <CorpseFeeder> how can I find out what how to fill in my rt61sta.dat wireless config file if there is no instructions?
[02:43] <CorpseFeeder> i am stuck in limbo
[02:43] <nozorro> adil: the root user is the most powerful wrt permissions if you mean that
[02:43] <spiderworm> !webcam
[02:43] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:43] <adil> yes nozorro
[02:44] <adil> i added another user because i dont want to use root every time
[02:44] <adil> but i want that user to have huge permissions
[02:44] <adil> how can i make that please?
[02:44] <Crippy-Boy> adil: Add the user to the sudoers file.
[02:44] <nozorro> adil: in ubuntu there's no root by default
[02:44] <ACU> I have phpmyadmin installed (apache works) but I do not know how to make the phpmyadmin works any hint
[02:44] <dk> im new to ubuntu dapper, everything is working fine, but sometimes my internet connection drops for a minute or so, why is this happening??
[02:45] <adil> nozorro: i have root and i have a user, so that problem is solved :)
[02:45] <kidko> All right... Well, I got the XML::Parser downloaded. Now when I type in make (There is a makefile), it sends out a bunch of errors that, by my guess, complains about just about everything in the script. Does anybody have an idea of how I could fix this?
[02:45] <adil> Crippy-Boy: can you please give me a help doing that?
[02:45] <CorpseFeeder> if I put "AuthMode=OIK!" and "EncryptMode=FLIBBLE" in my RA61STA.DAT file will that make my wireless card work in WPA-PSK?
[02:45] <adil> i am trying to learn
[02:45] <dk> does anyone else experience this problem?
[02:46] <henaro> Hello 8)
[02:46] <dk> internet connection dropping every so often
[02:46] <kingdong> hello 8)
[02:46] <nozorro> adil: you need to use the visudo editor
[02:46] <Crippy-Boy> adil: sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[02:46] <nozorro> if you want to follow Crippy-Boy's advice
[02:46] <CorpseFeeder> where can I find how to edit my rt61sta.dat file correctly?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> Crippy-Boy: visudo :)
[02:47] <nozorro> as i said
[02:47] <sethk> kidko, paste the error output on the paste site
[02:47] <brendonjt> kia ora
[02:47] <adil> ok, the file opened
[02:48] <henaro> Sooo
[02:48] <ladydoor> Crippy-Boy: actually, you need to use visudo. but if you read the manual, you'll see that you can use nano as the actual editor used instead of vi
[02:48] <DeadPiggy> where can i go to get some noob help?
[02:48] <adil> so now i should add the username under root?
[02:48] <henaro> Yeahh.....
[02:48] <CorpseFeeder> and why do I have to type sudo at the start of almost every single terminal command I use?
[02:48] <ladydoor> !noob
[02:48] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[02:48] <ladydoor> oh
[02:48] <jbaby> I notice there is programs for linux that let you watch tv on ur pc. Do you need to have any different hardware?
[02:48] <ladydoor> that's not what i wanted it to say
[02:48] <henaro> Soooo, I am having a problem with gcc...
[02:48] <ladydoor> DeadPiggy: what i wanted it to say was something like "ask your real question first"
[02:48] <dk> no one knows how to fix this internet connection issue?
[02:48] <henaro> 8)
[02:48] <ladydoor> :-)
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ladydoor: !ask
[02:49] <DeadPiggy> ah well i figured everyone wouldnt want to be bothered and maybe there was a channel that i cant find
[02:49] <ladydoor> gnomefreak: right right
[02:49] <dk> can you guys hear me
[02:49] <ghotli> yes
[02:49] <dk> ok
[02:49] <ladydoor> CorpseFeeder: you only need to type sudo if you need to be root
[02:49] <quiet> no.. IRC doesn't have voice capbilities.
[02:49] <gnomefreak> DeadPiggy: if you ask here we can point you to where it needs to go if not in here
[02:49] <dk> lol
[02:49] <jbaby> This room has voice?
[02:49] <ladydoor> CorpseFeeder: and if you really want you can set a root password and su
[02:49] <jbaby> oops nm
[02:49] <Crippy-Boy> ladydoor: i've always been fine using nano :-)
[02:49] <kingdong> my IRC is speaking out loud to me right now
[02:49] <quiet> apparently?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> it can
[02:49] <Lilandra> lupine_85: um...kernel panic (tho i didn't turn off acpi yet)
[02:49] <kingdong> what is wrong with your IRC?
[02:49] <ladydoor> Crippy-Boy: really? i thought you couldn't even edit it without visudo. weird
[02:49] <gnomefreak> nvm not voice as in sound
[02:50] <jbaby> No mirc channels have voice I dont think
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ladydoor: visudo is the edit iirc
[02:50] <quiet> hehe... my irssi screams at me when you say my name.
[02:50] <nozorro> adil: man sudoers
[02:50] <DeadPiggy> well im completely new with ubuntu and installed it fine and just need to know how to get to the desktop
[02:50] <jbaby> Yahoo does though
[02:50] <DeadPiggy> it takes me to the command line everytime
[02:50] <gnomefreak> jbaby: no irc has voice channels
[02:50] <ladydoor> gnomefreak: iirc? what does that mean?
[02:50] <quiet> DeadPiggy: what did you install with?
[02:50] <CorpseFeeder> well I Seem to need to be root with almost everything in the online HowTos despite the instructions not mentioning this need.
[02:50] <jbaby> Really?
[02:50] <quiet> ladydoor: if i remember correctly
[02:50] <Fuzz> !paste
[02:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ladydoor: if i remember correctly
[02:50] <sethk> ladydoor, you can edit the file.  the comments in the file tell you to never do it.
[02:50] <ladydoor> quiet: aha
[02:51] <ladydoor> sethk: oh. lol
[02:51] <sethk> ladydoor, you can set your EDITOR environment variable to control which editor is used by visudo
[02:51] <DeadPiggy> i installed with the cd i mounted from the iso
[02:51] <gnomefreak> its never a good idea to use a command you dont know what it does
[02:51] <ladydoor> sethk: right, that's what i was saying.
[02:51] <jbaby> fdisk is a good one lol
[02:51] <sethk> ladydoor, then, you were right.  :)
[02:51] <ladydoor> sethk: lol
[02:51] <quiet> gnomefreak: why not? that's the stuff viruses are made of..  :)
[02:51] <sethk> jbaby, fdisk is a good program.
[02:51] <Lilandra> what kernel does ubuntu 6.0.6 use?
[02:52] <quiet> Lilandra: 2.6.15
[02:52] <jbaby> yeah, it turns ur hard drive blank
[02:52] <gnomefreak> quiet: you have to know what it does to make a virus out of it :)
[02:52] <CorpseFeeder> i wish i knew what this damned thing expects me to type into it's .dat file
[02:52] <Lilandra> quiet: is that the same across the board for amd64, ppc, i386?
[02:52] <quiet> probably.
[02:52] <Crippy-Boy> Well, is there any specific reason why you have to use visudo? i've never had a problem using nano :-/
[02:52] <gnomefreak> CorpseFeeder: i have never seena  .dat file in or for ubuntu
[02:52] <quiet> ew.... nano1?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Crippy-Boy: dont have to
[02:53] <sethk> CorpseFeeder, what program is associated with the .dat file?
[02:53] <knix> So I'm having some issues with sound on my Ubuntu laptop. It's not swapping between speakers/headphones as it should. It uses whatever I have in at boot, eg. if I have headphones in when I boot, only the headphones work, and if I unplug them, speakers do not. Any ideas?
[02:53] <brendonjt> ok  on the website  it has the i386 kernal  how do i get the 686  kernal
[02:53] <gnomefreak> brendonjt: synaptic
[02:53] <quiet> brendonjt: install it?   linux-image-2.6-686
[02:53] <DeadPiggy> quiet: I installed with a cd I mounted from the iso off the website
[02:53] <kingdong> is the 686 kernel a lot faster?
[02:53] <jbaby> Whats the difference between 386 and 686?
[02:53] <don_jr> Is there a way I can see what process' are running on my machine?
[02:53] <mike__> i have an edgy question, what is there channel?
[02:54] <kingdong> i installed 386 by mistake
[02:54] <gnomefreak> mike__: #ubuntu+!
[02:54] <gnomefreak> avk
[02:54] <quiet> DeadPiggy: which cd though?? the live cd? the alternative installation cd? the server cd?
[02:54] <jbaby> ctrl-alt-delete
[02:54] <gnomefreak> mike__: #ubuntu+1
[02:54] <sethk> don_jr, ps aux
[02:54] <sethk> don_jr, ps -eaf
[02:54] <mike__> gnomefreak:  thaknk u
[02:54] <sethk> don_jr, lots of variations
[02:54] <don_jr> sethk thanx man, always my savior! :)
[02:54] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:54] <CorpseFeeder> I have a file I am suposed to edit for a RT61 wireless card in /etc/Wireless/RT61STA named rt61sta.dat but I have no clue what it vlaues it expects for AuthType= and EncryptMode=
[02:54] <DarthShrine> Hey everyone.
[02:54] <brendonjt> !686
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <Bumbelbee> bye
[02:55] <jbaby> !fdisk
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <DarthShrine> I just tried to run something in wine and I got an error about libntdll.so not being found. How can I resolve this?
[02:55] <DeadPiggy> quiet: wow Im an idiot.  thanks
[02:55] <mike__> fdisk i hated that
[02:55] <sky123> Hi guys...i know this is a bit of a redundant question...but has anyone actually got the TLS support to work with openldap in UBUNTU?? for authentication??
[02:56] <jbaby> !windows
[02:56] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[02:56] <jake1> ok...... i need help understanding directions
[02:56] <jake1> http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[02:56] <jake1> i'm a little confused
[02:57] <nozorro> jake1: what is it that you don't understand?
[02:58] <jake1> i'm at the point "Run configure, build and install with:"
[02:58] <jake1> what do i run configure on
[02:58] <Deeah> How do I turn off Screen Reader/Magnifier?
[02:58] <jake1> i'm confused
[02:58] <Deeah> or disable it
[02:58] <CorpseFeeder>  I have a file I am supposed to edit for a RT61 wireless card in /etc/Wireless/RT61STA named rt61sta.dat but I have no clue what it values it expects for AuthType= and EncryptMode=
[02:58] <DarthShrine> jake1, In the directory, type ./configure
[02:58] <sethk> jake1, you extract the source code into a directory.  cd to that directory, then do:      ./configure
[02:58] <jake1> what directory
[02:58] <jake1> what source code
[02:58] <Crippy-Boy> Why not install wine from the repo instead of building from source?
[02:58] <ladydoor> jake1: the directory you extract the source to
[02:58] <jake1> i'm lost
[02:58] <DarthShrine> The one with the Wine stuff that youshould have from extracting...
[02:58] <quiet> buh... reboot requires... back in a bit.
[02:59] <jake1> crippy-boy that is for 32-bit
[02:59] <quiet> required*
[02:59] <nozorro> jake1: in the build dir. the './configure' command starts the script named such in your working dir.
[02:59] <jake1> ok... but then what is that second part
[02:59] <sethk> jake1, the web site whose URL you posted is for using the source code
[02:59] <jake1> after that
[02:59] <mike__> any ghood eye candy for non ati card users?
[02:59] <sethk> jake1, so those instructions don't have anything to do with what you are trying to do.
[02:59] <Fuzz> uhm im having problems with my fglrx display drivers, could someone help pls?
[02:59] <jake1> LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32"
[02:59] <Deeah> Is anyone in here running edgy and they upgraded from dapper? Is X working and it's half stable/usable?
[03:00] <DarthShrine> jake1, It tells you what commands to use there, too.
[03:00] <ladydoor> Deeah: #ubuntu+1
[03:00] <Crippy-Boy> jake1: ahh, sorry didn't realise you wasn't using 32 bit.
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Deeah: install xserver-xorg-core xorg adn xserver-xorg-video-all
[03:00] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:00] <jake1> sethk: what do you mean it doesn't have anything to do with what i want to do
[03:00] <jake1> i want to install Wine
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Deeah: yeah that but please join #ubuntu+1
[03:00] <jake1> that's what that article is about
[03:00] <sethk> jake1, you are looking at instructions related to source code.  You don't have source code.
[03:00] <brendonjt> can i run the linux 686 in a amd 2600+ athlon?
[03:00] <DarthShrine> I want to make Wine work ^_^
[03:00] <jake1> i have source code to Wine
[03:00] <sethk> jake1, no, that article is for installing from _source_
[03:00] <sethk> jake1, then why did you say "what source code?"
[03:01] <Shadowpillar> DarthShrine: what's the prob now?
[03:01] <Fuzz> uhm im having problems with my fglrx display drivers, could someone help pls?
[03:01] <sethk> jake1 and "what directory?"
[03:01] <brendonjt> fuzz:whats happening?
[03:01] <jake1> it appeared to be talking about the libc6-i386 and the libc6-dev-i386 library
[03:01] <jake1> not Wine
[03:01] <jake1> if you read before it and the steps i took
[03:01] <DarthShrine> Shadowpillar, Same as above; libntdll.so not found. In /usr/lib/wine there's a libntdll.def.
[03:01] <DarthShrine> s/above/before/
[03:01] <sethk> jake1, I know what it is saying.
[03:02] <Shadowpillar> DarthShrine: what are you trying to get work?
[03:02] <jake1> so i need to cd to the Wine source code directory
[03:02] <jake1> and compile it
[03:02] <jake1> ?
[03:02] <jake1> what are the commands below for then?
[03:02] <Fuzz> well when i type fglrxinfo i get "the" error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:02] <jake1> is that how you do it?
[03:02] <sethk> jake1, why do you want to compile it?  why not just install the binary version?
[03:02] <DarthShrine> Shadowpillar, Just Wine in general, nothing will run without that library.
[03:02] <Fuzz> and also it screws my screen up
[03:03] <Shadowpillar> DarthShrine: that's odd
[03:03] <nozorro> jake1: these are the compilation steps
[03:03] <jake1> because the bin version is for 32-bit and the source apparently is critical for running it on 64-bit according to #winehq
[03:03] <Shadowpillar> DarthShrine: what version of wine are you running?
[03:03] <Fuzz> i have to set my driver to "ati" in the xorg.conf to fix that
[03:03] <brendonjt> fuzz:how did you install it
[03:03] <jake1> if i use the bin it won't work they said
[03:03] <jake1> i need to follow those steps
[03:03] <Shadowpillar> jake1: whoa whoa
[03:03] <Shadowpillar> jake1: stop
[03:03] <Fuzz> like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinayDriverHowto/ATI
[03:03] <brendonjt> fuzz:have you got restricted modules installed
[03:03] <DarthShrine> Shadowpillar, I'm not sure. I can't even run wine -v
[03:03] <Shadowpillar> jake1: I got wine running without recompiling it
[03:03] <Fuzz> i did the Install instructions for Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) section
[03:03] <jake1> on 64-bit?
[03:04] <brendonjt> fuzz:sudo apt-get install  xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:04] <Shadowpillar> jake1: yep, I do it
[03:04] <Fuzz> thing is ... it worked before, only then it screwed up my xorg.conf so bad my gui wouldnt load
[03:04] <Shadowpillar> jake1: hold on one sec
[03:05] <nozorro> jake1: just follow the steps, where's the problem?
[03:05] <Fuzz> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[03:05] <jake1> i didn't understand what i was suppose to do nozorro
[03:05] <Shadowpillar> jake1: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/dapper/wine_0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[03:05] <Shadowpillar> jake1: download that
[03:05] <Shadowpillar> also, DarthShrine.. http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/dapper/wine_0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[03:05] <Fuzz> so thats not it apperantly
[03:05] <nozorro> jake1: but what, specifically?
[03:06] <Shadowpillar> jake1: and install it dpkg -i --force-architecture wine_0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[03:06] <Shadowpillar> nozorro: I got it under control
[03:06] <jake1> nozorro: i did not understand that they meant to configure Wine
[03:06] <brendonjt> fuzz: hmm have you tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling it
[03:06] <Shadowpillar> jake1: and then apt-get install lib32asound2 and libasound2
[03:06] <nozorro> Shadowpillar: :-|
[03:06] <Fuzz> no
[03:06] <Fuzz> actually
[03:06] <Fuzz> how do you uninstall them
[03:07] <jake1> it seemed to be talking about the libraries mentioned in the steps prior
[03:07] <Shadowpillar> nozorro: I have wine running fine under 64 bit
[03:07] <Shadowpillar> jake1: hello?
[03:07] <jake1> yes
[03:07] <bohemian> Can anyone help with a sound problem? I updated to dapper and my sound has gone from * except Firefox
[03:07] <jake1> Shadowpillar: should i apt-get install those libs before installing Wine
[03:07] <jake1> ?
[03:07] <Shadowpillar> yeah, wouldnt hurt
[03:08] <Fuzz> how do you uninstall the fglrx drivers then?
[03:09] <kingdong> sudo apt-get uninstall fglrx
[03:09] <Fuzz> thnx
[03:09] <Shadowpillar> jake1: and then do the dpkg command like I said
[03:09] <Fuzz> not quite
[03:10] <saga21> hi people :)
[03:10] <kingdong> the package name might be slightly different, i forget
[03:10] <saga21> :S
[03:10] <Fuzz> how can u know?
[03:11] <DarthShrine> Shadowpillar, A quick reinstall of Wine showed that I have 0.9.9-0
[03:11] <jake1> alright
[03:11] <nozorro> bohemian: enabling esd might help
[03:11] <jake1> it seems to be working
[03:11] <saga21> wine suck I try
[03:11] <jake1> ok.... done
[03:11] <saga21> but the counter strike no working
[03:11] <jake1> now i should test it
[03:11] <jake1> or is there some configuring i need to do first Shadowpillar
[03:11] <jake1> ?
[03:12] <DarthShrine> saga21, Wine won't make CS run.
[03:12] <saga21> no :(
[03:12] <Shadowpillar> jake1: did you install it?
[03:12] <Shadowpillar> jake1: winecfg
[03:12] <jake1> i that command
[03:12] <jake1> the dpkg -i
[03:12] <jake1> is that it
[03:12] <jake1> ?
[03:12] <Shadowpillar> to set things up like pseudo drives
[03:12] <Shadowpillar> should be
[03:12] <livingdaylight> hi, installing another os on my other hardrive has wiped the ubuntu menu.lst from grub which i need to manually add. Can you tell me how i mount sda from sdb so can acces this?
[03:12] <Shadowpillar> if any errors come up, tell me, because I'm going off memory here
[03:13] <Shadowpillar> there might be other things needed
[03:13] <Deeah> Where can I get an icon pack? For things that can't be included, ie the firefox ball(trademarked) and other crap like that.
[03:13] <jake1> is winecfg accessible from any directory
[03:13] <jake1> or is there a dir i need to be in
[03:13] <jake1> ?
[03:13] <Shadowpillar> jake1: yeah, it's a command
[03:13] <saga21> hey but I can install CS
[03:13] <saga21> in ubuntu-es
[03:14] <Fuzz> how do i find out what package my fglrx drivers are
[03:14] <Shadowpillar> DarthShrine: check out winehq.org and look in the downloads sections for debian/ubuntu
[03:14] <bnovc> i've tried installing ubuntu on a friend's laptop to dual boot with windows which is already on it. the ubuntu installer detects windows and says it will resize that partition but then when i click forward it says can't find space to install....i tried doing "largest continuous space" and clicking forward on that just stalls forever
[03:14] <saga21> say about install CS with wine
[03:14] <kwilkers> i would like to mount or "map" a network windows share at login, is this possible?
[03:14] <Shadowpillar> DarthShrine: in my experience, wine that comes with ubuntu is kinda shitty.
[03:14] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here a quodlibet user?
[03:14] <Crippy-Boy> bnovc: How much free space is there on the windows partition?
[03:15] <saga21> I am noob
[03:15] <saga21> :P
[03:15] <bnovc> Crippy-Boy: its a 60 gig drive, 40 or so is free
[03:15] <Crippy-Boy> bnovc: hmm, You could always try resize it manually.
[03:15] <mYth[SeNtiX] > hi
[03:15] <Shadowpillar> DarthShrine: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[03:15] <saga21> hi!!
[03:15] <bnovc> Crippy-Boy: yea, i suppose i should do that...i figured ubuntu might be safe (not sure why i think so)
[03:15] <nozorro> kwilkers: after adding the place to Network Servers on desktop, it should reappear after each login
[03:16] <Shadowpillar> jake1: so, any luck?
[03:16] <the_dude> hmmm
[03:16] <the_dude> no aka yet
[03:16] <bnovc> i didnt want to increase the risk of destroying her windows install when i changed the partitions
[03:16] <mYth[SeNtiX] > anyone can help me with regards how to stop a process from starting automatically at startup, please?
[03:16] <kwilkers> nozorro:  thank you, i'll poke at that!
[03:16] <jake1> sweet
[03:16] <jake1> seems to be working
[03:16] <jake1> some error messages during launch about not vinding suitable visual
[03:16] <jake1> but it seems to work anyways
[03:16] <eyequeue> mYth[SeNtiX] , man update-rc.d
[03:16] <nozorro> kwilkers: first add it from Places > Connect to Server
[03:17] <bnovc> Crippy-Boy: i guess ill do that; any idea why it would error though?
[03:17] <bnovc> i'm confident 30-40gigs is enough
[03:17] <Shadowpillar> jake1: cool cool, and you can manage to install other 386 only apps in a similar way, though not as simply.
[03:17] <jake1> now i'm curious..... how would i launch a program i install with it
[03:17] <mYth[SeNtiX] > ok here's my prob, i installed ubuntu-server and then got xfce4 as a temporary gui
[03:17] <kingdong> whoever wanted firefox icon, check this out: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Firefox_&_Thunderbird_icon
[03:17] <jake1> does it create an icon somewhere to the program
[03:17] <mYth[SeNtiX] > now i want to stop it from lunching automatically at startup
[03:17] <Shadowpillar> jake1: like with zsnes, I had to download the deb for 32 bit SDL
[03:17] <mYth[SeNtiX] > eyequeue
[03:17] <Shadowpillar> jake1: wine program.exe
[03:17] <Crippy-Boy> bnovc: Yeah, its definitly enough, not sure why the error, I normally use the alternative cd after partitioning myself.
[03:17] <jake1> where do the programs install to?
[03:18] <eyequeue> mYth[SeNtiX] , man update-rc.d
[03:18] <bnovc> Crippy-Boy: i'm not familiar w/what the alternative cd is
[03:18] <Crippy-Boy> bnovc: Text based installer.
[03:18] <brendonjt> hi ya all  just upgraded from linux 386 to linux 686  and it is so good so far
[03:18] <Shadowpillar> jake1: usually to /home/yourname/.wine/drive_c/
[03:18] <mYth[SeNtiX] > eyequeue any idea what should i remove but?
[03:18] <bnovc> Crippy-Boy: ah ok, well i *kind* of want her to isntall it herself and i figured the fluffier the better ;)
[03:18] <saga21> hey one question
[03:18] <bnovc> but then it didnt work :|
[03:19] <saga21> I need see with my webcam in amsn
[03:19] <eyequeue> mYth[SeNtiX] , whatever you don't want to start
[03:19] <saga21> is posibly?
[03:19] <kingdong> brendonjt, is it faster
[03:19] <mYth[SeNtiX] > xfce4
[03:19] <Crippy-Boy> bnovc: yeah, I dunno just resize the partition with GParted or whatever and then let her do the actual install.
[03:19] <mYth[SeNtiX] > automatically starting at startup
[03:19] <mYth[SeNtiX] > the gui
[03:19] <Shadowpillar> saga21: yeah, make sure you have the latest version, plug in your webcam, go to preferences
[03:19] <saga21> ok ;)
[03:20] <saga21> thank men :P
[03:20] <bnovc> Crippy-Boy: it will detect both partitions and ask her to go to it?
[03:20] <brendonjt> kingdong:  yip seems  to be
[03:20] <kwilkers> nozorro:  thanks for that.  now that server connection will be persistent?
[03:20] <Deeah> I have a 10 gig /; an 85 gig /home; and I have about 17 gigs of unpartitioned space all on the same drive.(I only have one drive in this machine) What should I use to add the 17 gigs of unallocated space to the /home; so /home is 100+ gigs instead of 85. I don't want to lose any data if possible.
[03:21] <Deeah> I'm using gnome
[03:21] <nozorro> kwilkers: works for me with ssh folders. it stays there unless the server goes down or you remove the volume from the desktop
[03:21] <mYth[SeNtiX] > eyequeue maybe the update-rc.d has a command line to show all processed automatically starting at starup?
[03:21] <bnovc> Deeah: do you need the space
[03:21] <kwilkers> nozorro:  beautiful, i'll reboot to check it out.  thanks for the help!
[03:21] <mYth[SeNtiX] > eyequeue maybe the update-rc.d has a command line to show all processes* automatically starting at starup?
[03:21] <eyequeue> mYth[SeNtiX] , ls /etc/init.d/
[03:21] <mYth[SeNtiX] > ah k
[03:22] <abo> is Squirrel the best sql client for linux?
[03:22] <Deeah> bnovc, not really, but I would like to use it.
[03:22] <mYth[SeNtiX] > must be 'gdm' then
[03:22] <kingdong> Job 3:14
[03:22] <bnovc> Deeah: if you dont really need it, maybe you should just use it as backup or something
[03:22] <sethk> Deeah, you can make a new file system in the space, and then use a symbolic link to make it available in /home
[03:22] <jake1> how do i uninstall something i installed with Wine
[03:22] <jake1> ???
[03:22] <Crippy-Boy> bnovc: Well when its resized you should have so many g unused space, And "Largest continuous free space" should work fine.
[03:22] <sethk> Deeah, that's not exactly adding it to /home, but it can have a similar effect.
[03:22] <sethk> Deeah, or you can use lvm
[03:22] <Deeah> sethk, So there is no way to use it and make /home larger?
[03:22] <bnovc> Crippy-Boy: oh, largest continuous free space referes to the largest free partition?
[03:22] <mYth[SeNtiX] > and eyequeue, is there a way to enable it again after i remove it from update-rc.d?
[03:23] <flaco> hi.... now I delete a symbolic link
[03:23] <bnovc> i thought it would try to awkwardly partition space in the center
[03:23] <eyequeue> mYth[SeNtiX] , yes. man update-rc.d
[03:23] <Deeah> I can't just "resize" /home?
[03:23] <bnovc> flaco: rm -rf <symlink name?
[03:23] <sethk> Deeah, is the unused space contiguous to /home?
[03:23] <bnovc> *>
[03:23] <eyequeue> flaco, rm
[03:23] <Shadowpillar> jake1: invoke its uninstall program?
[03:23] <Crippy-Boy> bnovc: Im guessing so yeah,
[03:23] <sethk> Deeah, lvm will make /home larger
[03:23] <eyequeue> bnovc, why -rf?
[03:23] <flaco> but..... ln -s /route1 /route2
[03:23] <bnovc> eyequeue: its not necessary, just habit
[03:23] <flaco> rm -rf what?
[03:23] <sethk> Deeah, but it adds a level of complication and I'm not sure it's justified.
[03:23] <nozorro> flaco: just like any other file
[03:23] <flaco> ok
[03:23] <eyequeue> bnovc, a bad one
[03:23] <jake1> ah
[03:24] <jake1> got it thanx
[03:24] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here a quodlibet user?
[03:24] <bnovc> eyequeue: nah, i have backups of everything
[03:24] <eyequeue> flaco, rm thelink
[03:24] <eyequeue> bnovc, but you are advising others here
[03:24] <flaco> thks
[03:24] <bnovc> eyequeue: it wont hurt him to add -rf
[03:24] <sethk> Deeah, if the free area is contiguous to /home (just before or just after), a tool like gparted can be used to enlarge /home.  but, always backup before trying something like this.
[03:25] <eyequeue> bnovc, it's inappropriate for a symlink
[03:25] <bnovc> eyequeue: its overkill, not inappropriate
[03:25] <eyequeue> bnovc, explain how it is appropriate please
[03:25] <ladydoor> bnovc: i'm going to throw in with eyequeue. you don't want to attach -rf to rm if you don't absolutely have to
[03:25] <sethk> bnovc, to use -r unnecessarily, especially with f, is absolutely wrong
[03:25] <steinex> hey, someone here using a thinkpad under ubuntu? i'd have a question about the third mouse button.
[03:25] <ladydoor> bnovc: because mistyping could reach havoc
[03:25] <sethk> all risk, zero benefit
[03:25] <bohemian> Me too, it's a terribly bad habit.
[03:26] <ladydoor> *wreak
[03:26] <zebedee> cool i have found terminal and the man command, it's like msdos but with more options :-)
[03:26] <bnovc> heh
[03:26] <sethk> zebedee, we'll ignore that for the moment.   :)
[03:26] <sethk> zebedee, it's also quite wrong.  you can run bash and zsh in windows.
[03:26] <sethk> zebedee, you are confusing the shell with the operating system.
[03:28] <Crippy-Boy> Why is it that in here everyone feels the need to jump on people if they make a small mistake, Its really quite patronising.
[03:28] <bioticpro> whats a good program to make animated gifs from mpg/avi clips?
[03:28] <zebedee> sethk. Oh i'll read more and type less... :-)
[03:28] <DarthShrine> Shadowpillar, Same error with the package from the other repi.
[03:28] <sris> Hi, what kind of "recovering" tools is available in ubuntu?
[03:28] <DarthShrine> repo*
[03:28] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, WRONG   :)
[03:28] <sris> Because ive done something really stupid
[03:28] <bohemian> heh
[03:29] <Crippy-Boy> sethk: How?
[03:29] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, you have an underdeveloped sense of irony.
[03:29] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, bad advice is dangerous
[03:29] <sethk> sris, you have to be more specific.
[03:29] <bnovc> you're obsessing over something that makes no difference
[03:29] <eyequeue> bnovc, you are wrong
[03:29] <bnovc> i think its kind of humorous, so you can continue
[03:29] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeue: So it warrents about 5 or 6 people to jump on someone to say the same thing?
[03:29] <zebedee> I meant msdos as in command line, not dodgy mouse
[03:30] <bnovc> eyequeue: no, i'm not - you can have your opinion though
[03:30] <sris> sethk: well, i was trying to fix my sound, because i was unable to change the volume. so I followed the steps in the guide on the wiki.
[03:30] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, if that someone doesn't listen to the first person
[03:30] <sris> sethk: after a reboot it kind of had the oposite effect though, because the sound wasn\t working at all
[03:30] <sethk> sris, ok, so far that doesn't sound disasterous
[03:30] <sris> sethk: i tried to fix the edited configs back, but that didnt help
[03:31] <sethk> sris, your problem now is you have no sound?
[03:31] <sris> sethk: no
[03:31] <sethk> sris, sorry, I'll let you finish
[03:31] <sris> sethk: almost there :)
[03:31] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeue: And what makes you think they'll listen to the 4 people that follow? I find being patronising and having a holier than thou attitude little more helpful than a 'RTFM'
[03:31] <livingdaylight> anyone know whether there is a conflict between lilo and grub?
[03:31] <bohemian> Crippy-Boy,   several people merely agreed it was a bad habit, I didn't see any jumping on anyone.
[03:31] <sethk> livingdaylight, conflict in what respect?
[03:31] <livingdaylight> i have two hardrives and ones got grub and ones got lilo
[03:31] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, hopefully the target of the bad advice (flaco) will note that it is unacceptable to the variety who speak against it
[03:32] <sris> sethk: one of the steps told me to install something like libesd-arla0 which i did
[03:32] <sethk> livingdaylight, only the master will be used anyway
[03:32] <Crippy-Boy> bohemian: Its not just now, Ive seen it a couple of times which is why i said something.
[03:32] <sris> sethk: well, i though it would be a good idea to remove that again
[03:32] <sethk> livingdaylight, makes no difference what's on any drives other than primary master
[03:32] <livingdaylight> sethk: in that i've installed another os on sdb but now sda is not available to me at bootup. Looks like Zenwalk took out my Ubuntu menu.lst
[03:32] <Timmy|GDS> I need a overclocking utility for i386 so I dont have to access the BIOS
[03:32] <eyequeue> crimsun, and what is wrong with rtfm?
[03:32] <sris> sethk: so i ran apt-get remove thatname
[03:32] <Crippy-Boy> bohemian: Normally i would keep my mouth shut.
[03:32] <sris> and it startet to remove everything, a lot of x stuff and gnome stuff
[03:32] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, and what is wrong with rtfm?
[03:32] <bohemian> Normally you're better company :)
[03:32] <sethk> livingdaylight, if your menu.lst was clobbered, then yes, you have a problem, but I can't see why zenwalk would touch menu.lst
[03:33] <eyequeue> crimsun, misdirect, disregard
[03:33] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeue: What is right with it?
[03:33] <sris> sethk: this is my first linuxinstall so im not really know what im doing
[03:33] <bohemian> This is probably the wrong cvhannel for this discussion...
[03:33] <sris> sethk: but i aborted in after a while
[03:33] <flaco> hey man.. I was on the phone.. and I say thank you for your advice...
[03:33] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, the documentation written by the author is there for a reason, and is intended to explain the command in question
[03:33] <sris> sethk: and no, i can boot, log in, but there's nothing there
[03:33] <kingdong> what bittorrent client do you guys use
[03:33] <livingdaylight> sethk: well, i see no other explanation. So, i figured i need to manually add ubuntu's menu.lst to the Zenwalk one and i'll be ok
[03:33] <eternalswd> I just bought a new external harddrive and was wondering if there are any filesystems other than FAT32 that is fully supported by both linux and windows ie something that can write files larger than 4GB
[03:33] <sethk> sris, if you can boot and log in, quite a bit is there.
[03:34] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeue: In theory... If i give you a 'Brick laying for dummies' book and tell you to build a house do you think you could?
[03:34] <sris> sethk: yeah i think its mostley gnome desktopstuff
[03:34] <livingdaylight> sethk: but i've never used lilo and i don't know where the menu.lst in Zenwalk is, to check whether my theory is right
[03:34] <sethk> livingdaylight, lilo uses a file, lilo.conf.  but, remember, lilo.conf is only used once, when lilo is installed (or reinstalled)
[03:34] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, i don't have the ability to get out of bed, so no.  i do have the ability to type on a keyboard, which i assume all here have as well
[03:35] <sethk> livingdaylight, the equivalent of menu.lst is written to the drive.
[03:35] <sris> sethk: libesd-alsa0 is the name of the package i tried to remove
[03:35] <l33t_n00b> what program do you use to configure wireless
[03:35] <sethk> sris, let's look at it from another direction.  did you lose any important files, or did you just mess up your install?
[03:35] <sris> sethk: i think i just messed up my install
[03:36] <sris> sethk: im running from the CD now
[03:36] <sethk> sris, why not just reinstall?
[03:36] <sethk> sris, unless you want to track down the problem for educational reasons.
[03:36] <livingdaylight> sethk: so, any ideas? I don't want to have to physcally connect and disconnect everytime i want to go into one or the other hardrive to get into Ubuntu or Zenwalk, everytime
[03:36] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeue: And if someone comes across a problem even though theyve read the manual, Or cant find a manual, Or cant find anything relavent to what they need in the manual? And above all else its just pure arrogance. If you dont like a question, don't answer it.
[03:36] <sris> sethk: well first of all im curious of why removing that package started to remove a lot of other things
[03:37] <kitche> livingdaylight: you can use either bootloader if you want you just have to edit the config of one of them to boot both
[03:37] <sethk> livingdaylight, I wish I knew more about zenwalk.  Why did you install zenwalk in the first place?  Is there something that grub can't do for you?
[03:37] <ladydoor> !attitude
[03:37] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:37] <kingdong> arr-tee-eff-emm!
[03:37] <eyequeue> Crippy-Boy, if someone states they don't understand a man page, they get a different response
[03:37] <sethk> sris, oh, because there are dependencies
[03:37] <JoseStefan> i had a dream, someone hacked into my ubuntu by using the recovery console :/
[03:37] <nomasteryoda> peace people
[03:37] <sethk> sris, when you install something, say X, the package manager will say oh, you also need y, z, a, b, and c
[03:37] <sris> sethk: ouch
[03:37] <Deeah> sethk, http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7358/screenshotqv9.png
[03:37] <jake1> anyone know of Visual Basic is free
[03:37] <bohemian> Crippy-Boy,    what is your problem? If you don't like the way people provide help and advice, provide it yourself in a manner you deem appropriate.
[03:37] <nomasteryoda> and greetings from the evil side of the net... esus
[03:37] <jake1> the one by microsoft
[03:37] <sethk> sris, so, when you uninstall X, it then says hey, you no longer need y,z,a,b,c.
[03:37] <sethk> sris, and out they go.
[03:37] <Crippy-Boy> eyequeue: I really dont care to carry this on as its not going anywhere. i just dont agree with it.
[03:38] <l33t_n00b> what program is the most popular for configuring and maintaining wireless profiles?
[03:38] <sris> sethk: but i wasnt uninstalling X, i just thought it was some soundspecific package
[03:38] <sethk> sris, Unless you are seriously short of disk space, it's better not to uninstall (except to fix a problem).
[03:38] <virilius> hi ppl
[03:38] <sethk> sris, it's an alsa library, so you are correct.
[03:38] <Crippy-Boy> bohemian: Im not looking for help, and i do oftern provide it myself, I was merely voicing my opinion.
[03:38] <sris> sethk: well yeah, i was just trying to get my sound back
[03:38] <sethk> sris, but possibly your dependency data got messed up, or you stumbled on an obscure bug in the package manager.
[03:38] <livingdaylight> sethk: why did i install Zenwalk, is there something Grub can't do for you? i don't understand? Do you mean, why did i install Zenwalk, is there something Ubunt can't do for me?
[03:38] <linuchsan> JoseStefan:must be your mother
[03:39] <sethk> sris, uninstalling that should not have impacted things other than sound.  However, it appears that it did.
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: Realbasic for linux is free, it uses most of the same syntax and if you buy the upgrade it will compile for either linux or WIndows
[03:39] <sris> sethk: i got supicious right away because it prompted is was going to remove 30XXX files or something
[03:39] <sethk> sris, and your system is in a state now where it might take many hours to figure out what happened, and why.
[03:39] <Crippy-Boy> RealBasic is aweful.
[03:39] <sethk> sris, yes, that's definitely bizarre  :)
[03:39] <nomasteryoda> i hear it is better than kdevelop
[03:40] <sethk> livingdaylight, you are using operating system names and boot loader names as if they were the same thing.
[03:40] <sris> sethk: i see, i was hoping there was some gnome-desktop recover stuff around :)
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Basic in general is not great
[03:40] <Crippy-Boy> kdevelop is an IDE, RealBasic is a language, How can they be compaired?
[03:40] <sethk> livingdaylight, grub has nothing specifically to do with linux, it's a general purpose boot loader.
[03:40] <virilius> I just install edgy knot2 and did the update to every packet... at the moment I have installed Xorg 7.1 and fglrx 8.28.8... However, the fglrx drivers isn't loading! :( Any idea? I though fglrx 8.28.8 already supported Xorg 7.1
[03:40] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: I heard Helix is good
[03:40] <sethk> livingdaylight, when you install another operating system, that doesn't mean you have to install that other operating system's boot loader.
[03:40] <eyequeue> virilius, /join #ubuntu+1
[03:40] <eyequeue> !edgy
[03:40] <sethk> livingdaylight, of course, poorly designed o/s installs like windows clobber whatever boot manager happens to be there.
[03:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:40] <Timmy|GDS> I need a overclocking utility for i386 so I dont have to access the BIOS, pm me with a solution please!
[03:41] <sethk> livingdaylight, but if that happens, you just reinstall grub.
[03:41] <kitche> sethk: slackware does that by default :(
[03:41] <l33t_n00b> !schedule
[03:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> HE was looking for VB, RealBasic is close in syntax and has the ability to vross compile which is why I suggesated that program
[03:41] <sris> sethk: correct me if im wrong, but i installed it all on a single partition. that would mean that a reinstall would erase all my data too?
[03:41] <jake1> Jack_Sparrow... i've been looking all over for VB for Linux
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Nope
[03:41] <not-a-bot> Good evening :)
[03:41] <Crippy-Boy> Jack_Sparrow: I appologise.
[03:41] <virilius> eyequeue: thanks and sorry
[03:41] <sethk> kitche, no, not the current version.
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> sris, yes you are right... it would toast your data
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Crippy-Boy: np
[03:41] <sris> sethk: theres no way of simply reinstalling gnome?
[03:41] <eyequeue> virilius, no prob
[03:41] <sethk> sris, no, you don't need to erase anything.
[03:41] <jake1> it's not microsoft doesn't make it do they?
[03:42] <sethk> sris, when you install, if there are already file systems that the install can use, it gives you the option of installing without erasing.
[03:42] <Timmy|GDS> m$ is 64Y
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> VB is MS... RB is not
[03:42] <livingdaylight> sethk: no, i know the difference between an os and a loader, i was confused as to what you meant. It wasn't clear to me however, that i didn't need to install lilo, I was just following the default installation
[03:42] <sethk> sris, yes, you can reinstall gnome, I'm just not sure it will fix it.
[03:42] <sethk> sris, but it can't hurt.
[03:42] <sethk> sris, just bring up synaptic and find gnome and do a reinstall
[03:42] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: nevermind I was thinking of realplayer not BASIC
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:43] <not-a-bot> I just setup my OV519 according to this http://blog.thedarkmere.net/index.php?/archives/14-Ubuntu-ov51x-jpeg-guide.html and everything seems to work fine, no more modprobe errors and the little LED on my cam is lit
[03:43] <sethk> livingdaylight, ok.  My thought would be to reinstall grub, and then add the new o/s to grub's menu.  assuming grub can handle it.  That's what I meant about whether there is something grub can't handle.
[03:43] <not-a-bot> isn't it supposed to be available as /dev/video1 now?
[03:43] <sris> sethk: how would i do that? no, from the CD, or from the "recovery consol" ?
[03:43] <not-a-bot> I only have dev/video0 which is mny tv-card :S
[03:43] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: i tried the howto but it doesnt help authentication against active directory, it just deals with getting windows to see ubuntu shares via samba
[03:44] <thomas> hey guys, i'm having trouble with a cron job. I have set it up to execute a script every half hour, but it isn't. I have tried both as my user and root. The script is executable, and works from terminal. Can somebody help me figure this out???
[03:44] <sethk> sris, you said you can log in.  so you can do a command line reinstall of ubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <sethk> sris, if your desktop is there, only missing sound, then you can use synaptic which is easier to use than the command line utility apt-get
[03:44] <sris> sethk: well, after i log in i cant do anything
[03:44] <sethk> sris, give me an example of something you can't do.
[03:45] <sris> sethk: nah, my desktop isnt there
[03:45] <sethk> sris, ok, then command line it is.
[03:45] <sris> sethk: after i log in, i just get a brown screen
[03:45] <sris> sethk: i tried some hotkeys but that didnt work
[03:45] <sris> like alt-F2
[03:46] <ubuntu> HI
[03:46] <thomas> type ctrl alt F5
[03:46] <sris> and when i tried to restart the shell, well, i dont even know what happend
[03:46] <ubuntu> What can I use on the LiveCD to burn a DVD?
[03:46] <sethk> sris, ok.  try    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop         probably it will say already installed, but try it.
[03:46] <quiet> does anyone know what the entries are for kismet source= for ndiswrapper(wlan0) cards?
[03:46] <nozorro> thomas: maybe you have to restart cron?
[03:46] <thomas> ubuntu: install gnomebaker
[03:46] <ubuntu> thomas: LiveCD
[03:46] <thomas> nozorro, i have tried this.
[03:46] <eyequeue> ubuntu, the drive will be occupied, you can't
[03:46] <sris> sethk: sorry if im repeating myself, but where should i execute that command_
[03:46] <sethk> sris, no, better, do this:   sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:46] <quiet> ubuntu: you can install n the livecd
[03:46] <livingdaylight> sethk: ah..so that is what you meant. :) How do i reinstall grub though? i wonder if that is beyond me. I can go and get menu.lst from ubuntu and add it to Zen's menu.lst but reinstalling grub sounds like a big job
[03:46] <seshomaru> hello - can anyone tell me whats the command that will display the type of CPU I have?
[03:46] <ubuntu> eviltux: It's another drive, DUH!!!
[03:46] <quiet> seshomaru: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:46] <ubuntu> It even sez blank DVD-R on my desktop
[03:46] <sethk> sris, all you have is the command line, so you have to type it there.  :)
[03:46] <thomas> ubuntu: you can install gnomebaker in a live setting. However, you won't have enough swap/memory to burn a cd.
[03:47] <sethk> sris, if you can get a terminal window
[03:47] <seshomaru> quiet, thanks!
[03:47] <ubuntu> thomas: DVD.  Why not?  I am trying to burn an iso image on another hard drive
[03:47] <eviltux> what? 0.o
[03:47] <sethk> sris, if you can't get a terminal window, then do:    control-alt-f1
[03:47] <thomas> ubuntu: unless you have a swap drive somewhere on a disk.
[03:47] <sethk> sris, that wil give you a console login.
[03:47] <sris> sethk: hm, no i cant, or well, i can switch to another terminal with alt-shit-Fx
[03:47] <kielby> is anyone having trouble accessing www.ubuntu.com? it times out for me
[03:47] <kracker> can anyone recommend a way to mount a gpg/pgp filesystem from a file on my usb/disk under Ubuntu?
[03:47] <thomas> ubuntu: type swapon /dev/hd** <--- w/e your swap partition is, if you have one.
[03:47] <sethk> sris, ok, those are consoles.  use a console.
[03:48] <sris> sethk: yeah, that works, okey than, thanks for the help :)
[03:48] <thomas> then you can probably burn a dvd no problem.
[03:48] <sethk> sris, "terminal" usually means a terminal window running in the desktop
[03:48] <eyequeue> kielby, no delay here
[03:48] <ubuntu> thomas: hm... the disk is ntfs, and only one partition.  could I use a usb key as swap?
[03:48] <thomas> ubuntu: yeah you'll have to format it.
[03:48] <apecat> aargh, i happened to hibernate my system
[03:48] <apecat> did a hard reboot
[03:48] <thomas> ubuntu: that's a good idea. Just make sure you set your burn speed slower than the read speed of your usb key.
[03:48] <apecat> and it hibernates itself again when it it booted
[03:48] <sethk> ubuntu, you can, but usb access is slow, so it's not a great idea.
[03:49] <apecat> how do i wake this thing up?
[03:49] <thomas> apecat: i have never been able to hibernate ubuntu.
[03:49] <apecat> thomas: heh meneither
[03:49] <ubuntu> thomas: gnomebaker do overburns alright?  issue is this dvd image is like 60mbytes too big and nero isn't cutting it
[03:49] <seshomaru> quiet, how about my motherboard?
[03:49] <apecat> and i wouldn't want to
[03:49] <apecat> just happened to press hibernate by mistake
[03:49] <ubuntu> thomas: not sure if it is hardware or software issue as to overburning not happening
[03:49] <thomas> apecat: usually it saves my swap properly, but messes up when i power it back on.
[03:49] <kracker> just trying to mount a file based gpg/pgp fat file system in a file on another fat filesystem
[03:49] <ubuntu> sethk: Why is that?  It's USB 2, and quite fast on win
[03:49] <sethk> seshomaru, there are files in /sys that describe your hardware
[03:49] <thomas> ubuntu: can you skim some files out of it?
[03:50] <thomas> ubuntu: you can open the iso in fileroller.
[03:50] <sethk> ubuntu, it's just a relatively slow device.  but for burning, that may not matter.
[03:50] <seshomaru> sethk,  thanks
[03:50] <apecat> well, this is sort of disturbing, sinc eit falls asleep/dies againa ftaer teh reboot
[03:50] <sethk> seshomaru, kde has a very nice program to display stuff about your hardware.  gnome probably does as well.
[03:50] <ubuntu> thomas: yea, it's a dvd image though.. and I'm not sure if it would work properly if one of the VOB files was missing
[03:51] <shadowhywind> does anyone have any experence with wireless and ipw2200
[03:51] <thomas> its a video dvd... didn't know that.
[03:51] <thomas> gnomebaker has overburn
[03:51] <thomas> but 60mb might be cutting it.
[03:51] <thomas> and who knows whether or not your dvd player will read it properly afterwards.
[03:51] <livingdaylight> sethk: aguess, there's nothing more to say
[03:51] <ubuntu> other option is to reauthor the whole thing using DVD Shrink, but I don't want to do that.
[03:52] <seshomaru> sethk, im on gnome , i m looking thru /sys but im afraid i dont really understand
[03:52] <thomas> seshomaru: /sys really isn't important.
[03:52] <thomas> it is important
[03:53] <seshomaru> thomas, i want to find the type of motherboard this machine has
[03:53] <thomas> you don't know???
[03:53] <seshomaru> no
[03:54] <thomas> there's probably a command to do that.
[03:54] <thomas> but i don't know it.
[03:54] <seshomaru> i bought this computer a long time ago ,before i even knew what an OS is
[03:54] <thomas> why is it you need to know?
[03:54] <sethk> seshomaru, seshomaru specifically for cpu, you can do:   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:54] <thomas> is there another issue?
[03:55] <seshomaru> thomas - i want to change the Mboard to a new one (that supports Nvidia)
[03:55] <_pete> is there an easy way to download files from the repositories to a thumb drive and install them using synaptic on another system??
[03:55] <seshomaru> the current one doesnt have a slot for videocard
[03:55] <thomas> seshomaru, so just buy a new motherboard that supports nvidia?
[03:55] <Pelo> evening folks
[03:55] <seshomaru> sethk , thanks i found the CPU
[03:55] <seshomaru> thomas yes
[03:56] <thomas> why do you need to know what you have now if you're buying a new one.
[03:56] <PathagenX> so he can sell that one?
[03:56] <Crippy-Boy> thomas: i think he wanted to find out what the socket type wsa?
[03:56] <Crippy-Boy> was*
[03:56] <ubuntu> whoever said somethign about wireless, it's a huge PITA FYI =)
[03:56] <seshomaru> but as i understand it has to be similar in some ways to the old one, thats what the guy in the shop told me
[03:56] <seshomaru> i know nothing of hardware
[03:56] <Pelo> anyone know how to associate an icon with a file type in ubu ?  , I tried with rightclick properties but it only works for that one file
[03:56] <ubuntu> What would be proper way to open a file browser as root?
[03:57] <PathagenX> sudo filebrowser
[03:57] <Pelo> ubuntu  gksudo nautilus
[03:57] <Crippy-Boy> seshomaru: Yeah, you have to get one that supports that processor, If its old it may just be easier buying a new motherboard and processor.
[03:57] <PathagenX> or if you are already root, filebrowser
[03:57] <thomas> seshomaru: if your motherboard now is older than you know, you won't find one around today similar to it.
[03:57] <ubuntu> Pelo: thx
[03:57] <thomas> yeah thats what the guy was talking about
[03:57] <seshomaru> Crippy-Boy,  thanks
[03:57] <thomas> if you're not planning on buying a new cpu
[03:58] <thomas> which you should really should consider... getting a new cpu.
[03:58] <seshomaru> thomas that why i want to find out my Mboard.....
[03:58] <Crippy-Boy> seshomaru: what type of processor is it/
[03:58] <seshomaru> if the Mboard is too old - i'll get a new CPU
[03:58] <seshomaru> Pentium 4 2.20
[03:58] <seshomaru> 2.20 ghz
[03:58] <Pelo> anyone know how to associate an icon with a file type in ubu ?  , I tried with rightclick properties but it only works for that one file
[03:58] <thomas> its a p4? thats not that old!
[03:58] <Crippy-Boy> Ahh, You should be fine with just a new mobo
[03:58] <seshomaru> its 3 years old
[03:58] <LOL> >.< I'm in big trouble... i did sudo mv /etc/ jre-1_5_0_08-linux-i586.bin ~/Desktop and it moved the ect directory over to my desktop.. and i didnt want that... now i cant see to be able to copy it back :O
[03:58] <Crippy-Boy> socket 478 (if i remember rightly)
[03:59] <seshomaru> in China - 3 years is old....
[03:59] <seshomaru> ok - thank you all ...must go
[03:59] <thomas> as long as it's an intel board that supports pentium 4. ask the people you're buying the new motherboard from to make sure it supports P4.
[03:59] <Crippy-Boy> Hes gone :-)
[03:59] <thomas> LOL: thats quite a problem.
[03:59] <Crippy-Boy> hehe
[04:00] <ubuntu> Ok that didn't work out well
[04:00] <ubuntu> How would I mount a filesystem so regular user can read it?
[04:00] <LOL> thomas, anything i can do to revert it?
[04:00] <thomas> what kind of filesystem?
[04:00] <ubuntu> ntfs
[04:00] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: you can stil help mi out on that ting
[04:00] <thomas> ubuntu: mount -t ntfs /dev/hd** /where/you/want/mounted
[04:01] <peterocks> can i use synaptic to download packages to the disk w/out installing them?
[04:01] <ubuntu> thomas: "so regular user can read it"
[04:01] <not-a-bot> Hello, where could I find help with my stupid webcam, I'm desperate :-(
[04:01] <thomas> ubuntu: then sudo chown <your user name> /where/you/mounted/it
[04:01] <not-a-bot> Why won't it show up as /dev/video1 ?
[04:01] <thomas> ubuntu: if you had patience you would have let me finish typing.
[04:01] <ugarit> how does one install new themes in gnome?  I just downloaded http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31618
[04:01] <superjew9020> does any1 no y everytime my screensaver comes on my whole computer locks up
[04:01] <Crippy-Boy> gah, damn mailing lists, Havent opened mail in a couple of days and *BAM*
[04:01] <thomas> ugarit system>preferences>theme
[04:02] <thomas> and import the file you downloaded.
[04:02] <thomas> LOL: your entire etc folder is in a bin on your desktop???
[04:02] <peterocks> superjew9020: i have the same problem but only with certain ones
[04:02] <ubuntu> this ubuntu dealie is somewhat compelling
[04:02] <thomas> ubuntu: absolutely.
[04:02] <peterocks> superjew9020: i havent taken the time to resolve the issue, but i think it may be a driver issue
[04:02] <LOL> thomas, im not sure if its in a "bin" but its on my desktop now, not in / anymore, and it has a little lock icon over it
[04:02] <ugarit> thomas: I did and got this error: file format is invalid
[04:02] <thomas> ubuntu: and even if you still need windows, you don't have to install it per se... check out vmware player.
[04:03] <dzer0> hello
[04:03] <Pelo> ubuntu http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[04:03] <dzer0> I need some help with a few things
[04:03] <ubuntu> thomas: tried experiment installing ubuntu for a DFU... didn't entirely work out.  might try again in a few years
[04:03] <thomas> LOL: is it in a compressed file?
[04:03] <not-a-bot> does noone use a webcam and a tv-card simultaniously here?
[04:03] <superjew9020> o cuz all of the ones that came with my ubuntu always r lockin up
[04:03] <Pelo> ubuntu  http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html
[04:03] <caminomaster> hi
[04:03] <LOL> thomas doesnt seem like it, just a regular folder
[04:03] <Pelo> ubuntu , just a few linux basics
[04:03] <caminomaster> who can help me with midi?
[04:03] <thomas> ubuntu: follow a vmwareplayer qemu for windows guide. you can install ubuntu inside windows.
[04:03] <ubuntu> thomas: nah... I like my windows stuff to run full speed.  I might use freebsd or ubuntu or such for desktop when I get faster hardware though..
[04:03] <espresso> help!! I can't find where I hid my php.ini file
[04:03] <thomas> ubuntu: just until you get used to it.
[04:03] <dzer0> 1, I have 2 displays, a dell 2405fpw at 1920x1200 and a cheap 1280x1024, and I cant get the dell to run at full res, and the second monitor wont work at all
[04:04] <dzer0> 2, I need to find an XGL tutorial
[04:04] <ubuntu> Pelo: I'm a Unix sysadmin, not a newbie :)
[04:04] <thomas> ubuntu: you are using a livecd. installed ubuntu is at least twice as fast.
[04:04] <thomas> !res
[04:04] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:04] <Pelo> dzer0  there was one on diggs a few days ago , do a search
[04:05] <bioticpro> what is a good program to convert avi to animated gif in linux?
[04:05] <Phuzion> Alright, I think I officially screwed up apt, every time I try to do apt-cache search (anything), I get this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22973
[04:05] <thomas> and dzer0, rather than telling us what model of computer you have, more importantly is what kind of graphics card you have.
[04:05] <ubuntu> thomas: I'm well aware of that.  I'm just not sure it's ready yet
[04:05] <Phuzion> What did I do?
[04:05] <thomas> ubuntu: take it from me... it is definitely ready.
[04:05] <LOL> thomas, how can i change the permission of the ect folder through a command?
[04:05] <Pulshion> hi, does anyone know programs that can crack .rar password?
[04:05] <dzer0> thomas: didn't say model of computer, said model of monitor, and I am using an nvidia 7600 GT on PCI-E
[04:05] <thomas> ubuntu: try installing it in a virtual machine in windows.
[04:05] <ubuntu> thomas: dunno.  another thing is a lot of my income comes from online poker, and I'd need online poker clients to run ... they don't
[04:06] <dzer0> also, what's the apt command to search for a package?
[04:06] <ubuntu> thomas: meh... I've done that with every OS... :)
[04:06] <thomas> LOL: you didn't answer my question. exactly where are the contents of your /etc folder now? and are they in a compressed folder?
[04:06] <Pulshion> hi, does anyone know programs that can crack .rar password?
[04:06] <LOL> dzero apt-cache search programname
[04:06] <LOL> thomas, i said that im not sure what you mean, its just a regular folder
[04:06] <thomas> dzer0: you need to install the 3d nvidia drivers. they are in apt i believe.
[04:06] <ubuntu> dzer0: man apt...  if you use "/searchterm" when you are in manual page viewer, it will search for a string.  then hit enter again or n for next occurence of string
[04:06] <thomas> LOL in /etc on your desktop?
[04:07] <ubuntu> thomas: also wtf is with the black on white terminal by default? >:P
[04:07] <LOL> thomas... yeah i accidentaly moved the /etc/ folder to my desktop... now i cant move it back to /
[04:07] <thomas> ubuntu: sorry its not white on black like windows.
[04:07] <Pulshion> hi, does anyone know programs that can crack .rar password?
[04:07] <Renan_s2> Pulshion: it is impossible to crack RAR password.
[04:07] <dzer0> thomas: how would I go about doing that? not really the best linux user ever
[04:07] <ubuntu> thomas: white on black isn't a windows thing... it's a common sense thing!
[04:07] <thomas> LOL: do sudo cp /home/<user>/Desktop/etc/ /etc/
[04:08] <Pulshion> Renan_s2 -- i seen it being done
[04:08] <eyequeue> ubuntu, much easier on the eyes
[04:08] <Renan_s2> Pulshion: then you would need some "brute-force" atack method
[04:08] <thomas> ubuntu: you can change the setting if it annoys you. but black on white tends to blend in with every other program known to man.
[04:08] <eyequeue> ubuntu, a white background is like staring at a lightbulb
[04:08] <Pulshion> Renan_s2 -- anything in linux?
[04:08] <LOL> thomas : sudo: uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file!
[04:08] <Phuzion> Alright, I think I officially screwed up apt, every time I try to do apt-cache search (anything), I get this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22973
[04:09] <ubuntu> eyequeue: exactly
[04:09] <dzer0> how do I install the nvidia 3d drivers?
[04:09] <eyequeue> ubuntu, white on black is much less irritating
[04:09] <sproingie> Phuzion: actually i think that's just the mirrors acting up
[04:09] <ubuntu> eyequeue: uhm, again, exactly.  that's what I said above :)
[04:09] <Phuzion> Oh?
[04:10] <[WA] dlichterman> Help, I borked my xserver trying to install the radeon drivers and all I get it a black screen.  Can someone walk me though the steps to get it back up?
[04:10] <gran1> Hey mates quick question: How do you perform a search with apt get from the console? I am trying to install apache 1.3 but I dont know what the package is called
[04:10] <sproingie> Phuzion: try another mirror.  i've had good luck with uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:10] <thomas> Most web pages are black on white...
[04:10] <sproingie> Phuzion: if you change the mirrors, you have to apt-get update of course
[04:10] <sharp> mp4's don't work...
[04:10] <thomas> how many programs have a black background?
[04:10] <Phuzion> sproingie:  just change us.ubuntu to uk.ubuntu?
[04:10] <dzer0> thomas: should I install nvidia-glx? is that the one?
[04:10] <LOL> thomas, can you give me the command to change the permissions on /etc/ so i can move it?
[04:10] <eyequeue> thomas, and that makes it what?  mass stupidity?
[04:10] <thomas> sharp: install gstreamer plugins.
[04:10] <sharp> thomas, did
[04:10] <sproingie> Phuzion: or pick a country code til one works :)
[04:10] <ubuntu> web page has more colors and more black on it than a terminal window though
[04:11] <thomas> dzer0: i don't know, i don't use nvidia, but if i were to guess, i'd say those were them.
[04:11] <Phuzion> sproingie:  thanks
[04:11] <truNWA> hello
[04:11] <eyequeue> thomas, they probably are mimicing a redmond company or something
[04:11] <sharp> thomas, installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse (and the rest of them)
[04:11] <thomas> LOL: that also requires sudo. how did you mess up your sudo? you do have a root password right?
[04:11] <gran1> Anyone know the answer to my question regarding searching for a package name with apt-get?
[04:11] <corsair> ok this wireless thing is a total bunch of **** with the 4318.  Darn thing says i have a connection.  the network says there is a signal. but network-manager says there are no connections and wont wont provide a selection for setting one up.  Any ideas
[04:11] <LOL> thomas, yeah i have my root pass
[04:11] <champ`measure> I want to install Ubuntu onto a new computer, I made the CD already out of the ISO file that I downloaded. But when I put in the CD I get an error : Emm386 : Warning : Address line A20 already enabled. Anyone able to help me out?
[04:12] <thomas> corsair, are you using WPA?
[04:12] <corsair> i would like to and wpasupplicant is installed
[04:12] <LOL> thomas i guess the sudo got messed up becuase its located in /ect/ ? im not sure... i would log on my root account and move it but im afraid ubuntu wont start up if i restart
[04:12] <thomas> LOL oh yeah.. lol
[04:12] <phiwum2> Hey ho.  Ubuntu newbie here.  I'm a long time Slackware user, so I don't know diddly about packaging systems like apt.
[04:12] <thomas> LOL su root
[04:12] <thomas> LOL: i hope you can do that.
[04:12] <Phuzion> Yeah, this isn't working
[04:12] <phiwum2> I need to get an older version of a package.  How do I do that?
[04:13] <Phuzion> I'm getting to 44% on updating the first mirror
[04:13] <dzer0> shit, how do I run the display setup again? it detected my SECOND monitor as my first
[04:13] <thomas> Phivum2: check out synaptic
[04:13] <Phuzion> And it just locks
[04:13] <LOL> thomas, it doesnt change anything omg
[04:13] <bluefusionxl> anyone know how i change welcome messages for proftpd?
[04:13] <ubuntu> thomas: uhm, I still can't get regular user to get access to mounted win partition
[04:13] <jaytee> I just loaded Ubuntu for the first time tonight. I loaded it on one of my computers that was running Windows Server 2003 and now it dual boots and runs great!
[04:13] <phiwum2> thomas: I know how to get packages, but not older versions.
[04:13] <thomas> LOL: don't worry, its not the end of the world..
[04:13] <ubuntu> bluefusionxl: /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ?
[04:13] <thomas> LOL: if you can't use sudo or root, you can use a livecd to do it.
[04:13] <[WA] dlichterman> Can someone help me fix my xserver, I installed the CVS versions to try to get 3d acceleration, and All I get it a black screen
[04:13] <thomas> LOL: you just need to mount your / partition and your home partition.
[04:13] <LOL> thomas >.< its my first perfect install of ubuntu, ill throw my computer out of the window and kill myself afterwards if i cant fix this without reinstalling ubuntu
[04:14] <bluefusionxl> No such file or directory.. plus its not in the config
[04:14] <dzer0> grr, use nv driver or nvidia driver? whats the difference?
[04:14] <thomas> bluefusionxl: check out gproftpd
[04:14] <Crippy-Boy> LOL: You dont need to reinstall, Just boot the live cd and move etc back
[04:14] <corsair> i removed and reinstalled the network-manager.  Are there some files I need to mess with to get it to do its thing?
[04:14] <stephans> anyone used google earth on 606 with res 1280x800?
[04:14] <eyequeue> phiwum2, tried "man apt-get" yet?
[04:14] <phiwum2> eyequeue: I did, but I missed the relevant bits!
[04:14] <champ`measure> I want to install Ubuntu onto a new computer, I made the CD already out of the ISO file that I downloaded. But when I put in the CD I get an error : Emm386 : Warning : Address line A20 already enabled. Anyone able to help me out?
[04:14] <thomas> LOL: use a live cd, mount both partitions, and then use sudo cp
[04:15] <eyequeue> phiwum2,               A specific version of a package can be selected for installation
[04:15] <Phuzion> So, can someone verify if 195.248.90.54 (uk.archive.ubuntu.com) is working?
[04:15] <LOL> thomas or crippy-boy, how do i do that? can you type out the commands i would need to input?
[04:15] <jesus_> why amsn dot works properly on ubuntu?
[04:15] <ubuntu> Soooo how do I either 1) Phuzion responds to ping
[04:15] <thomas> champ`measure: did you get the cd off of the ubuntu site or mirror?
[04:15] <brian98> right I'm ditching me ati card and about to put ina new nvidia
[04:15] <eyequeue> phiwum2, you know less commands no doubt, grep for that line
[04:15] <phiwum2> eyequeue: Thanks!
[04:15] <ubuntu> Phuzion: responds to ping
[04:15] <brian98> more fun and games no doubt
[04:15] <eyequeue> phiwum2, sure thing
[04:15] <Phuzion> ubuntu:  I figured that, it gets to 44% then stalls
[04:15] <champ`measure> thomas: I downloaded the .iso file off the wedsite
[04:15] <ubuntu> So... how do I either 1) mount filesystem so regular user can read it or 2) launch a file browser as root ?
[04:16] <thomas> 195.248.90.54 is working
[04:16] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys, I'm searching in the forums right now, I installed Network Manager-gnome through Synaptic, but I get nm: 'a.out': No such file
[04:16] <ubuntu> Phuzion: shrug.  quit and start again?
[04:16] <Phuzion> apt and apptitude don't work
[04:16] <robin_> greets. A problem. Firefox won't prompt to save passes on certain banking sites but konqueror always does. Is there something specific to be done to enable this ?
[04:16] <sethk> KanRiNiN, nm is not the name of the file
[04:16] <ubuntu> Working pretty good, too.  Tried my damndest to flood it and only 2% packet loss!
[04:17] <sethk> KanRiNiN, nm is the utility to dump the symbols from an executable file.
[04:17] <ubuntu> robin_: forums.mozillazine.org
[04:17] <sethk> KanRiNiN, the default file name to use is a.out
[04:17] <sethk> KanRiNiN, since there is no file a.out, you get that message
[04:17] <sethk> KanRiNiN, but why are you trying to run nm in the first place?
[04:17] <dzer0> what's the command to restart linux?
[04:17] <dzer0> i mean
[04:17] <dzer0> lol
[04:17] <dzer0> xgl
[04:17] <thomas> LOL: you there?
[04:17] <ubuntu> dzer0: uh, reboot ?
[04:17] <sethk> dzer0, shutdown -r now
[04:17] <Crippy-Boy> sudo reboot.
[04:17] <LOL> thomas yup
[04:17] <sethk> dzer0, with sudo if you aren't root
[04:18] <KanRiNiN> My roomate's router is wpa, so like the forum said, I downloaded wpa supplicant and network manager, and I'd really really like netowrk manager to work..
[04:18] <KanRiNiN> I'm just not sure how to trouble shoot it
[04:18] <thomas> LOL: don't shutdown the computer, just hold the power button down. then use a livecd.
[04:18] <sethk> KanRiNiN, for some reason you think network manager is somehow related to nm
[04:18] <sethk> KanRiNiN, nm is a program completely unrelated to network manager
[04:18] <ubuntu> So... how do I either 1) mount filesystem so regular user can read it or 2) launch a file browser as root ?
[04:18] <LOL> thomas im not sure if i have a livecd, i have the ubuntu install cd (dapper) and i guess failsafe from GRUB is the same thing, am i right?
[04:18] <Crippy-Boy> Whoops, lol, I think dzer0 wanted to restart xgl :D well, looks like that did the job anyway :D
[04:19] <[WA] dlichterman> Can someone help me fix my xserver, I installed the CVS versions to try to get 3d acceleration, and All I get it a black screen
[04:19] <sethk> KanRiNiN, and the computer really doesn't care that there is another program, somewhere, that starts with n and has an m in it
[04:19] <fastoy> Can anybody help with ubuntu on ThinkPad 600E? Boot hangs at "Loading Linux Kernel" - 42%
[04:19] <thomas> LOL: you can use the ubuntu dapper install cd.
[04:19] <thomas> LOL: once you're booted in the livecd, come back and i'll help you out more.
[04:19] <sethk> KanRiNiN, if you want to run Network-Manager, you type Network-Manager
[04:19] <thomas> LOL: remember, DON"T SHUT DOWN. just power off.
[04:19] <sethk> KanRiNiN, I'm not sure if it has capital letters or dashes or whatever.
[04:20] <LOL> thomas oh ok ill try that
[04:20] <sethk> KanRiNiN, in breezy it is network-manager.  I think in dapper it is NetworkManager
[04:20] <KanRiNiN> yea ok, sudo NetworkManager, but nothing happens just like at startup.  sethk isn't there a grep or something I can use
[04:20] <sethk> KanRiNiN, grep finds strings inside of files, has nothing to help you here.
[04:20] <sethk> KanRiNiN, it isn't possible that nothing happens
[04:20] <Crippy-Boy> fastoy: have you already installed or are you trying to boot the live cd?
[04:21] <sethk> KanRiNiN, it can say "no such program".  It can do something and return you to a prompt.  it absolutely _cannot_ do nothing.
[04:21] <fastoy> Crippy-Booting Live CD. 192 MB RAM
[04:21] <BHSPitLappy> hi all.
[04:21] <KanRiNiN> sethk: then it returns to prompt
[04:21] <fastoy> Turned off QuickBoot in BIOS.
[04:21] <RawSewage_> Anime video has dual tracks:  English and Japanese.  What tool do I use to set a video file's Default to Japanese and not English
[04:21] <sethk> KanRiNiN, ok, that means it found the program.  It may be running and you don't realize it.
[04:21] <Crippy-Boy> fastoy: im not sure then, Try using the alternate or the server install cd, I installed with the server cd on here (Thinkpad T23)
[04:21] <sethk> KanRiNiN, are you on the desktop or in a console?
[04:22] <KanRiNiN> console
[04:22] <KanRiNiN> well
[04:22] <bman> How do I change the timezone from the console?
[04:22] <KanRiNiN> I have a terminal open
[04:22] <ubuntu_newbie> sethk: i stil havin truble printin form dis damn ting
[04:22] <fastoy> Crippy-Ok. I thought this was supposed to be "easy."
[04:22] <BHSPitLappy> I have a big dependency circle, seemingly revolving around lbc6 2.3.6.6, and it prevents me from installing a bunch of stuff. heard of this?
[04:22] <sethk> KanRiNiN, that's nice, but you are on the desktop?
[04:22] <phiwum2> eyequeue: Can I see what versions are available?
[04:22] <KanRiNiN> yes
[04:22] <sethk> KanRiNiN, do this:   ps aux | grep -i network
[04:22] <eyequeue> phiwum2, apt-cache show foo | less
[04:22] <sethk> KanRiNiN, see if anything shows up.
[04:22] <phiwum2> eyequeue: Thanks again.
[04:22] <Crippy-Boy> fastoy: It normally is :P, I have no idea why the lice cd hangs for you, But i had a few problems with the live cd installing on other computers so i never bother with it now.
[04:23] <Crippy-Boy> live*
[04:23] <sethk> KanRiNiN, what you were probably trying to ask before is whether there is a utility to find out where the file NetworkManager is.  There is such a utility, but it won't help you.
[04:23] <eyequeue> phiwum2, no prob
[04:23] <fastoy> Seems like there are lots of problems with TPs. I just had one lying around.
[04:23] <sethk> KanRiNiN, because, when you are returned to the prompt with no error message, that means NetworkManager was found.
[04:23] <stormchas3r> anyone know anything about the Ubuntu Certified Pro Exam?
[04:23] <fastoy> Crippy-Thanks.
[04:23] <sethk> KanRiNiN, you can do   which NetworkManager    and it will show you where it is
[04:23] <thomas> stormchas3r: sounds like a scam.
[04:23] <sethk> KanRiNiN, that's if your report is accurate.
[04:24] <KanRiNiN> ok I got the report back from the first command
[04:24] <sethk> stormchas3r, sure, you send me money, and you get a certificate and a secred decoder ring
[04:24] <KanRiNiN> synaptic installed it to sbin
[04:24] <KanRiNiN> so I need to link it to bin right?
[04:24] <KanRiNiN> so it starts when my user starts?
[04:24] <stormchas3r> sethk, really, little orphan annie style
[04:24] <ubuntu_newbie> yo...can anyone help mi print to a windows print server?
[04:24] <stormchas3r> sethk, better drink your ovaltine
[04:24] <sethk> KanRiNiN, I think network manager doesn't do what you think it does.
[04:24] <corsair> ok, so where are the files the must be edited so that the system can do wpa without network-manager cause its not working for me either.   the icon is there and it shows the wired connections but nothing for wireless
[04:24] <sethk> KanRiNiN, network manager is a program to allow you to configure the network
[04:25] <sethk> KanRiNiN, it has nothing to do with starting the network when you boot.
[04:25] <sethk> KanRiNiN, once the network is configured properly it will start at boot.
[04:25] <thomas> corsair: i'm certain it won't connect to a wireless network while you're wired.
[04:25] <mbvo> I'm trying to set up a windows/linux network but sometimes i can see the computers sometimes i can't(right now i can't)
[04:25] <KanRiNiN> sethk:  I have no problem starting any network when I boot.  iwconfig and ifconfig take care of that.  I wanted a program to browse wifi signals.
[04:25] <sethk> KanRiNiN, the question now is why, when you run NetworkManager, you don't see the program on the desktop.
[04:25] <KanRiNiN> sethk: if that's not the correct program, can you recommend one
[04:25] <KanRiNiN> nice inductive reasoning
[04:25] <KanRiNiN> ..
[04:26] <sethk> KanRiNiN, network manager can be used to browse wireless networks, although it calls another program to do it.
[04:26] <KanRiNiN> bingo
[04:26] <KanRiNiN> missing 1 essential program
[04:26] <sethk> KanRiNiN, someone, what's the name of that program to browse networks?   wifi-radar?  something like that...
[04:26] <KanRiNiN> possibly.  but also shouldn't there be an applet for network manager?
[04:26] <sethk> KanRiNiN, yes
[04:26] <KanRiNiN> wifi rader is pretty useless
[04:26] <corsair> Thomas, ok but it didnt do anythign while it was not wired either.. i had eth0 disabled and it had no options
[04:26] <KanRiNiN> I wanted to try a different program
[04:26] <sethk> KanRiNiN, there is at least one other
[04:27] <thomas> corsair: I don't know, i have used a wireless network in ubuntu
[04:27] <sethk> someone?  programs to browse wireless networks?
[04:27] <thomas> !wireless
[04:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:27] <thomas> all i can say..
[04:27] <ubuntu_newbie> im gonna switch bak to windows
[04:27] <sethk> thomas, that's a start.
[04:27] <ubuntu_newbie> this printing problem is unreal
[04:27] <thomas> ubuntu_newbie what printer do you have?
[04:27] <ubuntu_newbie> hp deskjet 3740
[04:27] <sethk> ubuntu_newbie, if it is better for you, then by all means run it.
[04:27] <thomas> ubuntu_newbie: and is it on a windows computer?
[04:27] <ubuntu_newbie> thomas:yeah
[04:27] <mbvo> I'm trying to set up a windows/linux network but sometimes i can see the computers sometimes i can't(right now i can't), can someone help me?
[04:28] <thomas> ubuntu_newbie: i think you need to login using the username/password of the windows computer.
[04:28] <ubuntu_newbie> thomas: its on a windows domain controller
[04:28] <sethk> thomas, I think his problem is that samba has to authenticate with his domain server.  the printer is attached to his domain server.
[04:28] <thomas> ubuntu_newbie: try that.
[04:28] <ubuntu_newbie> thomas:i did but no dice
[04:28] <corsair> ubotu: btw those docs are less than useful for 4318
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btw those docs are less than useful for 4318 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: Setting up printers to work with Windows domain controllers can be a pain in the ass.  But that's the fault of MS!  Anyway, it can be done.
[04:29] <ubuntu_newbie> phiwum2: any howtos on the situation
[04:29] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: I've done it, but it was a while back.
[04:29] <thomas> ubuntu_newbie: that frustrated me for a bit too. but when i moved my other computer over to ubuntu... i had no problems.
[04:29] <[WA] dlichterman> can someone please help me fix my xserver.  All I get is a black screen.  Nothing works past that.  I have tried reinstalling the xserver-xorg-core and nothing.
[04:29] <jediborger> Can I get some help with fixing my ATI driver?
[04:29] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: I'm afraid I'm not an expert at all!
[04:29] <corsair> i have and have fresh instaled on this laptop at least 9 time tring different howtos  its feel hopless =(
[04:29] <phiwum2> jediborger: What card?
[04:29] <thomas> !ati
[04:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <jediborger> RAdeon 9200
[04:30] <ubuntu_newbie> phiwum2: damn..
[04:30] <jediborger> I had it working with the included driver
[04:30] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: I can send you my cups config file.
[04:30] <ubuntu_newbie> phiwum2: so you dont remember anything that you did?
[04:30] <ubuntu> thomas: I can't manage to install gnomebaker from the LiveCD
[04:30] <jediborger> but decided to install EasyUbuntu's driver since it said it was better
[04:30] <thomas> so reinstall the radeon driver, it might fix something.
[04:30] <bohemian> (WA)dli.. tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  ?
[04:30] <[WA] dlichterman> will do right now.....
[04:30] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: This was a Slackware box, not an Ubuntu box.
[04:30] <[WA] dlichterman> im in recovery mode
[04:30] <jediborger> problem now is it's worse
[04:30] <thomas> ubuntu: really. I could install software running a livecd before.
[04:30] <ubuntu_newbie> o
[04:30] <Gevaudan82> Guys, what's the name of the os-x dock like menu launcher for gnome?
[04:30] <[WA] dlichterman> so that means no sudo right cause im as root
[04:31] <thomas> ubuntu: how much ram do you have?
[04:31] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: but it should be similar.
[04:31] <jediborger> so how do I reinstall the oringinal driver?
[04:31] <ubuntu> thomas: 256
[04:31] <bohemian> there is no need to sudo if you are root
[04:31] <corsair> is it hard to get 2.17.xx kernel compiled in dapper cause I read that it has native support for broadcom wifi
[04:31] <ubuntu_newbie> phiwum2: the problem is that it might have problems and considering the fact that im a n00b i wouldnt have the slightest idea of what to do lol
[04:31] <ubuntu> thomas: I think the issue might be with me not computer maybe >:P  I can't find it with a synaptic search and apt-get install gnomebaker sez it can't find it
[04:31] <jazzrocker> corsair, that comes down to "is it hard to get a kernel compiled" <- answer is no
[04:32] <[WA] dlichterman> k what should have happened, it just flashed adn then back to CLI
[04:32] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: I understand that.
[04:32] <jazzrocker> corsair, you won't have the ubuntu specific patches... but you can still compile just about any kernel... it has more to do with *your* hardware than ubuntu itself
[04:32] <corsair> guess ill try that.. seems like my last hope
[04:32] <jediborger> So does anyone know how to reinstall the ATI driver that comes with Ubuntu?
[04:32] <bohemian> (WA)dli...  try a reboot now
[04:32] <LOL> ok thomas, im in livecd
[04:32] <jazzrocker> jediborger, reinstall?
[04:32] <thomas> LOL excellent!
[04:32] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: But this is not a good reason to give up!  Send me an email.
[04:32] <ubuntu> thomas: you sure gnomebaker is name of package ??
[04:32] <[WA] dlichterman> bohemian thanks rebooting now
[04:33] <jediborger> jazzrocker: yeah how do you?
[04:33] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: I don't know that I can help, but I'll try.  jesse@phiwumbda.org.
[04:33] <jazzrocker> jediborger, uhhh, why do you need to do that?
[04:33] <jazzrocker> jediborger, and why are you under the impression that you need to reinstall your ATI driver
[04:33] <thoreauputic> !info gnomebaker
[04:33] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[04:33] <ubuntu_newbie> phiwum2: do you have msn messenger
[04:33] <jediborger> because direct rendering doesn't work the driver Easyubuntu installed
[04:34] <edmundo_v> phiwum2, what are you trying to do?
[04:34] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: No.
[04:34] <jediborger> thus my games under wine don't work anymore
[04:34] <jazzrocker> jediborger, well then you don't want a re-install you want a fresh install
[04:34] <phiwum2> edmundo_v: I'm tussling with an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[04:34] <[WA] dlichterman> bohemian I owe you my life, you freaking rock, and this is why ubunutu rules.  Thanks a million
[04:34] <phiwum2> edmundo_v: And I'm new to Ubuntu, but not new to Linux.
[04:34] <jediborger> oh then is there a way to just fix the video driver without reinstalling ubuntu totally?
[04:35] <edmundo_v> oh, not that about the printers
[04:35] <thomas> LOL: are you with me? i'm PMing you.
[04:35] <ubuntu_newbie> phiwum2: the problem is that i cant move the printer because all the other computers on the domain already login to that printer automatcally
[04:35] <feross> anyone know what the hotkey to hide gnome-terminal border is? looked in Keyboard shortcuts but don't see it there..
[04:35] <insub> How can i connect on the internets on Ubintu
[04:35] <LOL> thomas, not getting any PMs =/
[04:35] <phiwum2> edmundo_v: It's ubuntu_newbie that's working with the printer.
[04:35] <sethk> jediborger, yes, you can install drivers without installing the rest of the world.
[04:35] <thomas> LOL okay, mount your partitions.
[04:36] <sethk> feross, probably it isn't set, and you can choose any shortcut you like and configure it.
[04:36] <skybird> wow
[04:36] <skybird> i am here
[04:36] <LOL> one second thomas, ill try registering, maybe thats why it wont let me see the PMs
[04:36] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: I had to talk to a Windows printer at my last job.  Obviously I couldn't move it and I refused to use Windows.
[04:36] <corsair> ah, even better, I can just upgrade to edgy and it has the 2.17 kernal
[04:36] <jediborger> sethk: ok then can someone point me to the driver that ubuntu normally installs so i can install it?
[04:36] <edmundo_v> ubuntu_newbie, what are trying to do?
[04:36] <phiwum2> ubuntu_newbie: I'm sure there are other folks that know more than me, but I'd be willing to help.
[04:36] <ubuntu_newbie> edmundo_v the problem i have is that i cannot connect to the windows printer on my network
[04:36] <Tylerdurderner> thomas, nevermind, it doesnt seem to want to let me do that on Gaim
[04:36] <sethk> jediborger, you said you have an ati board?
[04:36] <vdepizzol> I'm trying to install xubuntu alternate cd in a computer with 64mb of RAM. Then a message appear telling the installer is in "low memory mode" and the installer stops
[04:36] <jediborger> sethk: yes
[04:36] <sethk> !ati
[04:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <thomas> tyler don't use gaim.. install xchat.
[04:37] <ubuntu> vdepizzol: more RAM.  probably solved
[04:37] <ubuntu_newbie> and edmundo_v the printer is on the windows domain controller
[04:37] <ubuntu> Tylerdurderner: don't use xchat, use irssi
[04:37] <insub> How can i connect on the internets on Ubintu
[04:37] <vdepizzol> ubuntu, but the help in the installer tells 32mb of RAM
[04:37] <edmundo_v> ubuntu_newbie, I have an epson Stylus CX something (in Windows XP) here and it works nice through my Ubuntu
[04:37] <ubuntu> someone kickban insub
[04:37] <thomas> ubuntu: thanks, but you know, i'm dealing with it.
[04:37] <infidel> ubuntu what's wrong with xchat?
[04:37] <jediborger> ok thanks
[04:38] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: you might need the alternate CD for a 64MB machine - the installer uses more memory on the desktop CDs
[04:38] <ubuntu_newbie> yes but the problem is edmundo_v this is on a windows 2003 server machine
[04:38] <Gurpartap> ubuntu doesnt detect my realtek rtl 8139D *PCI* ethernet card. any other similar issues? any references? please help me soon
[04:38] <insub> ubuntu, stfu useless failed abortion
[04:38] <ubuntu> ubuntu_newbie: hmmm?
[04:38] <Crippy-Boy> ubuntu: xchat is easier to use
[04:38] <KeithWeisshar> is frozentech the only dvd vendor that is cheap
[04:38] <ubuntu> vdepizzol: shrug.  it's not working ... so... more arm! =)
[04:38] <ubuntu> Crippy-Boy: pssh
[04:38] <Tylerdurderner> thomas ill be right back, ill try getting on xchat
[04:38] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: but it's the alternate cd :P
[04:38] <thomas> thanks tyler.
[04:38] <ubuntu_newbie> edmundo_v,sethk,phiwum2, thanks for all the help but i have to leave
[04:38] <sethk> Gurpartap, that's very odd; it's a very popular card.
[04:38] <thomas> i know xchat works. i have no idea about irssi.
[04:39] <Crippy-Boy> ubuntu: I never said i use xchat (im using bitchx) just that for most itd be easier to use :-)
[04:39] <Neo8750> irssi > *
[04:39] <ubuntu> insub: please adhere to TOC
[04:39] <Neo8750> thomas: whats wrong with irssi
[04:39] <Gurpartap> sethk: some specs ->
[04:39] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: ah - well in that case I don't know: have you tried doing a "server" install then doing " sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ?
[04:39] <thomas> i don't know, but i'm helping tyler, i want him using xchat because i know how to use that.
[04:39] <phiwum2> eyequeue: Got a moment?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: type server at the prompt..
[04:39] <Crippy-Boy> Neo8750: Its not exactly the easiest client to use :-)
[04:40] <eyequeue> phiwum2, okay
[04:40] <synchk> Hello, I'm having some issues with NTP.
[04:40] <mymy_> anychance to see blender 2.42 in edgy ?
[04:40] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: my network card doesn't work on ubuntu, so I don't have internet access on it
[04:40] <thomas> thanks, but if you guys want to finish off helping tyler put his /etc/ folder back in the right place, by all means go ahead. if not, leave me alone with him please. we don't need 50 people telling him what irc program to use.
[04:40] <KeithWeisshar> should i order the ubuntu 6.04.1 dvd or wait fro ubuntu 6.10
[04:40] <Neo8750> Crippy-Boy: much easier then bitchx
[04:40] <sethk> Gurpartap, you did a standard install and it did not find the card?
[04:40] <Gurpartap> mobo: intel 810i, processor: 997MHz p III, 256MB ram
[04:40] <synchk> Whenever I update, the time is always wrong.
[04:40] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: hmmm :(
[04:40] <eyequeue> !info blender edgy
[04:40] <ubotu> blender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.41-1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 4797 kB, installed size 12744 kB
[04:40] <phiwum2> eyequeue: I'm supposed to revert to version 8.24.8 of the fglrx driver, but I don't see it.
[04:40] <Gurpartap> sethk: standard install
[04:40] <sethk> Gurpartap, do    lspci     see if the card shows up in the list
[04:40] <eyequeue> mymy_, no
[04:40] <Phuzion> Alright, I'm seriously pissed off now, I can't figure out how to get apt working
[04:40] <Gurpartap> ok
[04:40] <synchk>  8 Sep 22:39:41 ntpdate[27765] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset 0.022075 sec
[04:40] <synchk> It is always .02 seconds off.
[04:40] <eyequeue> !schedule > mymy_
[04:41] <Neo8750> Phuzion: whats wrong?
[04:41] <Crippy-Boy> Neo8750, Maybe so but he's helping the guy so he chose an easy to use client that he's familiar with :-)
[04:41] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: you should still be able to apt-get xubuntu-desktop from the Cd itself
[04:41] <phiwum2> eyequeue: I'm looking at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[04:41] <fatbrain> Hello, I have a 5-button mouse, is there a way I can get Ubuntu to recognize is?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: the packages are there on th alternate CD
[04:41] <phiwum2> eyequeue: And maybe that version works better for my card.
[04:41] <Phuzion> Neo8750:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22973 when I do apt-get update
[04:41] <melon> is xmms already in the latest desktop release of ubuntu?
[04:41] <Phuzion> i mean
[04:41] <eyequeue> phiwum2, fglrx is not within my experience
[04:41] <Phuzion> apt-cache search (anything_
[04:41] <phiwum2> eyequeue: Okay, thanks.
[04:41] <sethk> synchk, the time resolution is larger than .02, so that means nothing
[04:41] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: and to install the cd, how I do? apt-cdrom?
[04:42] <eyequeue> phiwum2, perhaps google fglrx and the version number and .deb?
[04:42] <mtholdenss> howcome when i follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  to install xgl and compiz it doesnt work but when i follow this  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222034   it works...
[04:42] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: *install the packages of the cd
[04:42] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: it should be added to the /etc/apt/sources.list I think - but yes, apt-cdrom add should also work
[04:42] <edmundo_v> fatbrain, xorg has some options to set buttons and map them
[04:42] <thomas> or maybe.. search fglrx in synaptic... its in there.
[04:42] <Tylerdurdener> !nick
[04:42] <eyequeue> !xgl > mtholdenss
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <thomas> tyler
[04:42] <fatbrain> edmundo_v: thanks
[04:42] <thomas> tyler are you in xchat?
[04:42] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: very thank you. I'm going todo this now
[04:43] <Tylerdurdener> thomas yup
[04:43] <thomas> k
[04:43] <edmundo_v> I used it to switch buttons in my one finger strange mouse
[04:43] <thomas> you see my pms them
[04:43] <thomas> then*
[04:43] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: note that 64MB is really close to the bare minimum - it will be slow I suspect
[04:43] <Tylerdurdener> not yet.. im pretty sure i have to register my nickname first, i forgot the command, i thought it was /nickserv register but it doesnt work
[04:43] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: i know :P
[04:43] <synchk> sethk: what? I just want a time that is perfectly right.
[04:43] <thomas> tyler its /nick -- your name
[04:43] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: if you can put in more ram, do so :)
[04:44] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: also didn't work the server instalation
[04:44] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: define "didn't work"
[04:44] <maple1> dear aunt, let's set double the killer delete select all
[04:44] <Phuzion> brb, any messages to me, please send them in PM
[04:44] <Crippy-Boy> its /msg nickserv register <pass>
[04:44] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[04:44] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:44] <Tylerdurdener> thomas /nick just changes my nickname
[04:44] <Crippy-Boy> Tylerdurdener: /msg nickserv register <pass>
[04:45] <mymy_> !schedule
[04:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:45] <phiwum2> eyequeue: Thanks again for the suggestion.  I didn't find a .deb, but I found the driver for that version.
[04:45] <wthww> 
[04:45] <eyequeue> phiwum2, cool
[04:45] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: it didn't work like my last try to install xubuntu: I defined the language, the keyboard layout, then the instalation setup some modules and the screen got blue
[04:45] <Tylerdurdener> Crippy-Boy, doesnt look like its working :(
[04:46] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: have you tried asking in #xubuntu ?
[04:46] <Crippy-Boy> Tylerdurdener: Well try /msg nickserv identify <pass> and see what it says, You might have registered.
[04:46] <sethk> synchk, there is no such thing
[04:46] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: the problem isn't with xubuntu, is with the alternate instalation
[04:47] <sethk> synchk, any machine as a maximum resolution it can deal with.
[04:47] <zebedee> where would one be able to get an existing valid source tarball pls  re trying to makefile for rtl8180l w/lan ? Thanks :-)
[04:47] <Neo8750> Phuzion: it may just be the mirror near you is down
[04:47] <sethk> synchk, after all, it has a clock.  the shortest time interval it can measure is limited by the clock speed
[04:47] <Neo8750> try again later
[04:47] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: have you been able to install linux on this machine before?
[04:47] <sethk> synchk, plus, the NTP protocol does not correct the time to .02
[04:47] <synchk> sethk: My clock speed is 3.8ghz.
[04:47] <Tylerdurdener> Crippy-Boy it goes through but i dont get any input other than what i pmed it
[04:47] <synchk> sethk: This is much higer than .02s.
[04:47] <Phuzion> back
[04:48] <sethk> synchk, indeed, I was just using that as an illustration
[04:48] <sethk> synchk, however, there is nothing that the machine can do in a single clock tick
[04:48] <Phuzion> So, can someone help me out with my problem with apt?
[04:48] <synchk> sethk: Wrong. Else the machine would never get a single thing done.
[04:48] <sethk> synchk, really?  how do you figure that?  :)
[04:49] <synchk> sethk: If it doesn't get anything done in a single cycle, it gets nothing done in the second, or the third, or the nth.
[04:49] <sethk> synchk, nonsense
[04:49] <sethk> synchk, I'll give you an example
[04:49] <adam> woot! the ubuntu install worked, and im now a user!
[04:49] <synchk> sethk: Partial work _must_ be done in a single cycle, else no work would ever be done.
[04:49] <Phuzion> synchk:  I think he was implying entire tasks, such as calculations
[04:50] <Tylerdurdener> thomas are you still here?
[04:50] <sethk> synchk, it wants to read a byte from the memory.  when the clock is low, it sets up the address.  when the clock goes high, the memory controller grabs the address.
[04:50] <abo> welcome, adam!
[04:50] <sethk> synchk, while the clock is still high, the memory controller pulls down a line to the cpu that tells the cpu to wait
[04:50] <zebedee> adam:enjoy
[04:50] <adam> you bet!
[04:50] <eyequeue> congrats adam
[04:50] <abo> adam, it's a very good feeling, isnt's it!
[04:50] <synchk> sethk: So it's still getting things done in a single cycle..
[04:50] <Nox2k3> Hey I'm trying to get DRI to work with the open source Radeon driver on a 200M. The kernel says the driver loaded but I get no device nodes in /dev/drm and X complains about not being able to open the device nodes that don't exist.
[04:50] <sethk> synak, when the clock goes low, the memory controller shifts part of the address to the memory address bus.
[04:51] <sethk> synak, the memory controller then waits a preset number of clock ticks, typically three, to allow the address bus to settle.
[04:51] <Phuzion> Neo8750:  I have tried a few mirrors
[04:51] <Phuzion> And other people have verified that they work
[04:51] <adam> well, in the past 6 hours, i think i have learned the equivelant of my extensive knowledge of HTML. its a mind boggling experience, and i have so much more ahead of me
[04:51] <sethk> synchk, after the settling time, the memory controller drives a line to the memory itself, telling the memory to grab the address.
[04:52] <synchk> sethk: Work is still done in a single cycle.
[04:52] <sethk> synchk, I could go on, but you get the idea.  Nothing happens in less than about 20 clock ticks, and most things take much much longer.
[04:52] <Nox2k3> I'm using 2.6.15-26-k7 and ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) (1002:5955)
[04:52] <sethk> synchk, not from the perspective of the processor.  and not for the purposes of this discussion, which is to think about the resolution that the processor is capable of detecting when synchronizing the time.
[04:52] <Tylerdurdener> thomas, do you have aim i could talk to you with?
[04:52] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: I started the old ubuntu on this 64mb ram computer, and typed apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. It's working! :P then I can use apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[04:53] <sethk> synchk, NTP is extremely complicated, and is actually a marvel, but it has limits.
[04:53] <zebedee> adam:yep but so few crashes
[04:53] <sethk> synchk, because it uses the public internet and nothing on the 'net can be guaranteed, in terms of the time between sending and receiving a packet.
[04:53] <synchk> sethk: All modern processors are fully capable of handling .02s of time resolution. It is Ubuntu's failure of a NTP implementation which is at fault.
[04:53] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: sorry for my bad english :S
[04:53] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: that won't remove gnome - it's a meta-package only
[04:53] <carlo> can anyone help me to understand this error: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/libbind9-0_9.3.2-2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
[04:53] <carlo>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[04:53] <thomas_> tyler?
[04:53] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: but installing xubuntu-desktop at least fives you xfce4 :)
[04:53] <synchk> sethk: There is no logical reason that my clock should be constantly .02s seconds off.
[04:54] <thomas_> sorry i think i dropped.
[04:54] <thoreauputic> * gives
[04:54] <thoreauputic> synchk: why are you worried about a .02 sec inaccuracy?
[04:55] <mtholdenss> get it synced with a server...
[04:55] <thomas_> as long as one second is actually equal to one second. all that matters
[04:55] <synchk> thoreauputic: I am a power user and run tasks which demand scientific accuracy. I also do not like unsync'd clocks.
[04:55] <Phuzion> mtholdness:  he does sync it with a server
[04:55] <Tylerdurderner> thomas_ did you get the whisper?
[04:55] <thoreauputic> carlo apparently apt thinks your repos are on your machine ( 127.0.0.1 )
[04:55] <mtholdenss> oh try diff servers then
[04:56] <thoreauputic> synchk: ntp not working for you ?
[04:56] <thomas_> tyler yeah
[04:56] <thomas_> you get mine?
[04:56] <vdepizzol> thoreauputic: :).. so, then I can't remove gnome?
[04:56] <mtholdenss> how do u know if ntp is working?
[04:56] <Tylerdurderner> nope, weird
[04:56] <Tylerdurderner> do you have aim thomas_?
[04:56] <bohemian> Anyone here had any issues with wine after updating to dapper from breezy? I have found the window behaviour quite strange
[04:56] <abo> how can I install xubuntu?
[04:57] <thomas_> mtholdness if you set it to periodically update, it does. every boot, and every so often in between.
[04:57] <mtholdenss> how can i updrade to edgy betas?
[04:57] <thomas_> tyler yeah
[04:57] <thoreauputic> vdepizzol: you can, but it's a bit involved - look at deborphan and debfoster packages
[04:57] <mtholdenss> upgrade*
[04:57] <Tylerdurderner> abo you can do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <Tylerdurderner> i believe abo
[04:57] <bohemian> abo  open synaptic and search for xubuntu
[04:57] <synchk> thoreauputic:  8 Sep 22:57:19 ntpdate[28667] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset -0.010738 sec
[04:57] <thomas_> tyler what's your aim?
[04:57] <abo> ok thanx
[04:57] <Tylerdurderner> thomas_, msg me on hackershocker
[04:57] <bohemian> mark it for installation and aplpy
[04:57] <bohemian> apply
[04:57] <mtholdenss> edgy install?
[04:57] <carlo> thoreauputic any suggestions as to how this happened or how to fix?
[04:58] <synchk> thoreauputic: Ubuntu's NTP seems to be innaccurate to +/-.02 seconds.
[04:58] <thoreauputic> synchk: OK - I missed your earlier posts, but evidently ntp is working
[04:58] <thomas_> tyler add me?
[04:58] <Tylerdurderner> one second thomas_, figuring something out
[04:58] <thomas_> are you using a time server near you?
[04:58] <dicesquirrel> Question... I've created a small partition for Windows on my Ubuntu laptop, and installed Windows (it previously only had Ubuntu on it) and now grub doesn't seem to be installed. How can I install grub so that I can choose between Ubuntu and Windows XP when starting up?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> synchk: there are heaps of servers out there to synch with - I assume you've already tried ?
[04:58] <synchk> thoreauputic: No, it is innacurate.
[04:59] <detectiveinspekt> I have install beagle and beagled seems to be running but beagle can't find anything at all
[04:59] <synchk> thoreauputic: Yes.
[04:59] <Nox2k3> Does the Radeon DRM driver say anything spacific if it finds and initializes a radeon card. Mine is simply saying DRM loaded but I don't see any device files in /dev/dri.
[04:59] <basbryan> dicesquirrel: reinstall grub
[04:59] <dicesquirrel> basbryan, that's what I'm trying to do. -How-?
[04:59] <thomas_> Nox2k3: do aticonfig
[04:59] <thoreauputic> synchk: isn't it possible that your machine's clock is drifting ?
[04:59] <basbryan> boot from cd in repair mode and grub install
[05:00] <synchk> thoreauputic: NTP should account for this, +/-.02s is unacceptable.
[05:00] <Nox2k3> thomas_: I thought aticonfig was an fglrx thing, I don't have it installed. The problem is that I don't have any /dev/dri device nodes.
[05:00] <dicesquirrel> basbryan, that's it, just "grub install" in the console?
[05:00] <basbryan> dicesquirrel: i think so...  anyone have more to add?
[05:00] <synchk> thoreauputic: Other OSes with NTP seem to deal with this fine. I don't see what option Ubuntu disabled.
[05:00] <thoreauputic> synchk: well, I'm no expert - maybe you should look for a mailing list about the ntp program ?
[05:01] <synchk> A .02s inaccuracy in my clock basically makes my computer unusable.
[05:01] <dicesquirrel> basbryan, on the livecd I only get a few options, none of which are "recovery mode" as you say
[05:01] <Tylerdurderner> thomas_ ok i got it, im online now
[05:01] <Crippy-Boy> synchk: how exactly does .02s make it unusable?
[05:01] <basbryan> use back to get to menu
[05:01] <thomas_> .2 seconds is nothing.
[05:01] <basbryan> then choose grub choice?
[05:01] <thoreauputic> synchk: I'm not sure what you expect us to do about this - I suggest a bug report if you think it's a bug
[05:02] <basbryan> i know u need grub...  that's all
[05:02] <basbryan> i don't recall best way to get there
[05:02] <synchk> Crippy-Boy: I am a power user, and need critical time accuracy. I have specialized computing equipment to keep my hardware clock very accurate.
[05:02] <synchk> thomas_: Perhaps .2s is nothing to you.
[05:02] <basbryan> u don't need a reinstall
[05:02] <thoreauputic> I always think the term "power user" is so pretentious..
[05:02] <Neo8750> i wish people would make a script to check for all dependencies when installing multi[ple things from source
[05:02] <hondje> I think anyone who uses a computer is using power.
[05:02] <basbryan> dicesquirrel: 4 future reference...  install windows 1st...  then linux
[05:02] <synchk> thoreauputic: Maybe you aren't a power user then...
[05:02] <KeithWeisshar> can paper cd sleeves scratch the cd
[05:02] <Neo8750> at the start (this is not packages)
[05:03] <dicesquirrel> basbryan, I realize that, and that's the last thing I want. And I can't change what order I've done this in.
[05:03] <bohemian> I would have thought latency between you and the ntp servers would introduce more than a 0,02 second inaccuracy
[05:03] <Phuzion> hondje:  I laughed
[05:03] <thoreauputic> synchk: bah - i'm not talking about the level of use, just the terminology
[05:03] <hondje> Then I succeeded :D
[05:03] <dicesquirrel> Does anyone have any more specific advice on how I should reinstall grub using the LiveCD?
[05:03] <synchk> bohemian: No, NTP accounts for this lag.
[05:03] <basbryan> dicesquirrel: so from install cd...  u go back, to get to menu...  can u do grub from there?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> synchk: it's not a criticism of you
[05:04] <zebedee> hondje twice lol
[05:04] <synchk> thoreauputic: I am proud to call myself a power user.
[05:04] <treitter> I love the new Edgy login music :)
[05:04] <bohemian> What is a power user synchk?
[05:04] <hondje> :-)
[05:04] <thoreauputic> synchk: and what does that actually mean?
[05:04] <dicesquirrel> basbryan, not so far as I can tell. The options: "Start or install Ubuntu" "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode" "Check CD for defects" "Memory test" "Boot from first hard disk"
[05:04] <thoreauputic> synchk: everything is relative...
[05:04] <KeithWeisshar> should i wait for edgy to come out before ordering the dvd from frozentech.com
[05:04] <synchk> bohemian: A user who pushes the limits of his system; a user who cares about accuracy, speed, and reliability.
[05:04] <basbryan> dicesquirrel: go farther into install dialogue methinks?
[05:05] <mike> need soem help configuring a gdesklet please!!!
[05:05] <hondje> A user who goes where no user has gone before!
[05:05] <KeithWeisshar> frozentech discs are $1.99 plus $0.49 shipping
[05:05] <scooby_gang> Bye
[05:05] <Crippy-Boy> synchk: What exactly do you need to do that .02s is so critical?
[05:05] <dicesquirrel> Anyone else?
[05:05] <carlo> anyone able to help me with this repository issue? "  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[05:06] <synchk> Crippy-Boy: Accurate benchmarks.
[05:06] <Phuzion> synchk:  can't you just do some kind of offset?
[05:06] <synchk> Phuzion: No, there is a .04s spread, that's not possible.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> carlo do you have a proxy set ?
[05:06] <mike> help with a gdesklet desklet please
[05:07] <Schalken> is ti safe to upgrade to edgy yet?
[05:07] <JoseStefan> no
[05:07] <carlo> thoreauputic not unless one was set by default.
[05:07] <eyequeue> Schalken, #ubuntu+1 says no
[05:07] <thoreauputic> Schalken: if you have to ask, probably not ;)
[05:07] <Phuzion> Alright, so anyone here an expert at apt by chance?
[05:07] <Schalken> by 'safe' i mean my computer will still boot ;)
[05:07] <Neo8750> damn install thing has said 30minutes for last 30 minutes
[05:07] <mike> help with gnome bar gdesklet please
[05:07] <graft> Phuzion: what's the q?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> mike: be specific
[05:08] <Phuzion> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22973 when i do apt-cache search (anything)
[05:08] <hondje> If I were a power user bugged by .02s, I'd have said kerberos...but I'm an old fashioned troll :)
[05:08] <mike> thoreauputic:  well if you have ever seen the gnome bar gdesklet i am having trouble changing the launchers
[05:08] <ikaruga> I had a power outage. When I rebooted, apache2 stopped working. Any ideas?
[05:08] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, are you on 5.10 ?
[05:09] <graft> ikaruga: cause another power outage
[05:09] <Lilandra> Hi JoseStefan
[05:09] <thoreauputic> ikaruga:  fsck ? Check the file system
[05:09] <mike> thoreauputic:  all th elaunchers are filled outin this stile: launch('firefox')
[05:09] <JoseStefan> Hi Lilandra
[05:09] <dicesquirrel> Can anyone help me reinstall grub after an installation of Windows XP on a partition of a previously all-Ubuntu machine?
[05:09] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  Umm, not sure, how do I check?
[05:09] <mike> thoreauputic:  but i want to change it to a path to launch firefox 2 beta
[05:09] <Lilandra> JoseStefan: ubuntu live caused kernel panic too! :)
[05:09] <thoreauputic> mike: sorry I don't personally know anything about gdesklets - address your questions to the channel in general
[05:09] <mike> thoreauputic:  any ideas?
[05:09] <carlo> thoreauputic there is no proxy set. It is set to connect directly.
[05:09] <Smoked1> I am backing up my files right now so that i can replace windows with ubuntu right now. :)
[05:10] <mike> thoreauputic:  what channel shoudl i go to?
[05:10] <mike> thoreauputic:  never mind
[05:10] <ikaruga> thoreauputic: so boot up in recovery mode?
[05:10] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, posible a hardware issue, bad or misconfigured. Or ubuntu doesnt like your hardware
[05:10] <Lilandra> JoseStefan: possibly
[05:10] <mike> help with configuring starters on a launche rplease!!!!!!!
[05:10] <Neo8750> dicesquirrel: boot off any linux rescue cd and reinstall grub to the mbr
[05:10] <thoreauputic> carlo it's a mystery then - it is clearly looking at your box and not the Net
[05:10] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, i dont remember :/
[05:10] <zebedee> smoked1:enjoy the ride
[05:10] <Phuzion> brb, I'll check and see if I can figure it out at the machine
[05:10] <Smoked1> I need to know if there is a way durring install to specify slixes instead of everything going to "/"
[05:10] <dicesquirrel> Neo8750: How? I don't understand.
[05:10] <Lilandra> JoseStefan, I can switch the harddrive (or take it out completely), I can also take out the agp video card
[05:11] <Smoked1> slices
[05:11] <zebedee> pass
[05:11] <mike> help with gdesklets please
[05:11] <Neo8750> dicesquirrel: thats good question to be honest i couldn't tell ya without looking it up
[05:11] <thoreauputic> ikaruga: yes, or run  sudo shutdown -r -F now ( I think F forces a check - have a look in man shutdown)
[05:11] <carlo> thoreauputic a mystery with no solution? I find that hard to believe. Thanks for the words of help.
[05:11] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, you could try with minimum hardware, in other word, remove non essential addon cards
[05:11] <Smoked1> last time I tried it there were no options for that and it bugs
[05:11] <realist> synchk: How exactly did you determine your clock is inaccurate by 0.02s, and with what clock reference are you using for comparison?
[05:11] <synchk> realist: NTP.
[05:11] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, then add each one at a time
[05:11] <Lilandra> ok JoseStefan
[05:11] <thoreauputic> carlo of course there's a solution - I just don't know what it is :)
[05:11] <dicesquirrel> Neo8750: Could you?
[05:12] <mike> any help with configuring launchers on a gdesklet bar
[05:12] <synchk> ntpdate[27765] : adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset 0.022075 sec
[05:12] <Lilandra> I'll put it on and try it again in a bit
[05:12] <Smeggy> anyone know if its possible to embed php inside a bash script?
[05:12] <hondje> count tics instead when benchmarking
[05:12] <Smeggy> full on php.. not just a line or two...
[05:12] <carlo> Well I'm off to find it. See you all around again.
[05:12] <JoseStefan> realist, ntp.ubuntu.com is one
[05:12] <tanath> can anyone help me with this error? it's not recognizing a blank cd: http://pastebin.ca/164877
[05:12] <mike> help with gdesklets
[05:13] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  Yes, I am on 5.10
[05:13] <elhaxxorz> Can someone help me? Firefox, Galeon, and Swiftfox are all crashing on the same sites! No idea what's going on, think it is Flash
[05:13] <hondje> elhaxxorz: link to the site?
[05:13] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, try: sudo apt-get update
[05:13] <elhaxxorz> hondje, www.yahoo.com
[05:13] <hondje> eeks
[05:13] <Phuzion> locked
[05:14] <realist> synchk: either your local and/or reference hardware clocks could be drifting, and just how accurately do you think NTP measures network delay, and jitter?
[05:14] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, do you have another package manager running?
[05:14] <Phuzion> Wait
[05:14] <Phuzion> I got the lock to disappear
[05:14] <thetictacaddict> when I first installed ubuntu, there was a symlink in my home directory to some media samples.  I deleted the link; can anyone tell me where those files are?
[05:14] <elhaxxorz> hondje, worked on Breezy,
[05:14] <Phuzion> But it stalls at 44% of the first one
[05:15] <hondje> elhaxxorz: If yahoo is crashing all your browsers, then you're probably right and it's one of your plugins that are shared
[05:15] <Phuzion> 44% [Connecting to uk.archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.23)]  [Connecting to securi
[05:15] <Phuzion> stalled there
[05:15] <JoseStefan> thetictacaddict:  Examples -> /usr/share/example-content
[05:15] <elhaxxorz> they are all firefox derivatives
[05:15] <Neo8750> dicesquirrel: http://sidvind.com/wiki/HOWTO_Restore_GRUB_after_Windows_XP_installation-cd
[05:15] <thetictacaddict> thanks!
[05:15] <elhaxxorz> do you have the opera repo?
[05:15] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, give it a min :P
[05:16] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: btw, that's your closest mirror, right?
[05:16] <hondje> I doubt the problem is gekko, and no one else is having trouble with yahoo :-)
[05:16] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  timed out, and it's not the closest
[05:16] <Phuzion> But the us mirror does the same thing
[05:16] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, try main mirror
[05:17] <Phuzion> us.ubuntu.whatever?
[05:17] <mike> help me please with a gdesklet?
[05:17] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, you could try "us.", main one doesnt have a prefix
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> 'help me ObiWan, you're my only hope'
[05:18] <Neo8750> ,,,,
[05:18] <JoseStefan> Dr_Willis?
[05:18] <QMario> What happened here?
[05:18] <QMario> An attack?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:18] <JoseStefan> did you do that?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> QMario,  where?
[05:18] <zebedee> hello
[05:18] <QMario> Me?
[05:18] <Neo8750> hope not that suck
[05:18] <QMario> I did not do that.
[05:19] <richard> sudo get install rails --include-dependencies
[05:19] <richard> doesnt work
[05:19] <Phuzion> Channel join attack, someone tried to de-sync one of the servers
[05:19] <Phuzion> Didn't work
[05:19] <Phuzion> lol
[05:19] <richard> sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies
[05:19] <JoseStefan> nevermind
[05:19] <richard> doenst work
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> I got joins/parts/quits  hidden.
[05:19] <richard> any know why
[05:19] <Neo8750> sudo apt-get install rails ???
[05:19] <JoseStefan> channel join flood stopped working like 10 years ago
[05:19] <SkramX> hi, ATravelingGeek
[05:19] <ATravelingGeek> hey SkramX
[05:20] <SkramX> it's Office Feel Good to you, son.
[05:20] <mike> help with gnome bar please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:20] <Phuzion> Alright, apt STILL stalls at 44%
[05:20] <richard> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:20] <richard> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:20] <SkramX> HOW DO I INSTALL LINUX?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> !install
[05:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:21] <Phuzion> SkramX:  Don't shout
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> He dont want Ubuntu! he wants "linux" :P
[05:21] <thoreauputic> Phuzion: he left...
[05:21] <elhaxxorz> hondje, can you help any more?
[05:21] <Phuzion> thoreauputic:  lol, didn't see that
[05:21] <hondje> elhaxxorz: No, only recommendation I have is to reinstall all your shared plugins
[05:21] <elhaxxorz> how would i do that?
[05:22] <thoreauputic> richard: close synaptic or whatever other apt instance you have running
[05:22] <Crippy-Boy> Dr_Willis: in that case... www.linuxfromscratch.org :P
[05:22] <richard> sudo apt-get rails
[05:22] <richard> E: Invalid operation rails
[05:22] <thoreauputic> richard: syntac error
[05:22] <hondje> apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree etc
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> richard,  time to read a few apt-get tutorials dude.
[05:23] <thoreauputic> richard: sudo apt-get install <package>
[05:23] <Pelo> hey guys
[05:23] <mike> can anyon ehelp me?
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[05:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <richard> the guide im reading says this
[05:24] <richard>  sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies
[05:24] <thoreauputic> mike: if anyone can help they will - you need to give people more information, and also be patient
[05:24] <bohemian> synchk, read rfc1305.
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !patience
[05:24] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:24] <richard> sudo: gem: command not found
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> gem? thats a new one on me.
[05:24] <Pelo>  a friend of mine  just manage to screw up is gnome installation and he's booting in CLI ,  anyone know the command line to install gnome back, with the right pacakge ?  sudo apt-get instal ??????
[05:24] <CorpseFeeder> is there anyone in here yet who has the slightest clue about how to get a RT61 chipset wireless card to work in ubuntu using WPA-PSK?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> richard,  i think you may want to find a better guide.
[05:24] <eyequeue> Pelo, ubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <thoreauputic> Pelo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> gem maybe some ruby command.,
[05:24] <richard> http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake
[05:25] <Pelo> thanks eyequeue  and thoreauputic
[05:25] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[05:25] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:25] <bohemian> sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <thoreauputic> bohemian: wrong
[05:25] <Crippy-Boy> gem is a ruby package manager
[05:25] <sethk> reinstall is a flag, not a command
[05:25] <thoreauputic> bohemian: it would be apt-get install --reinstall
[05:25] <sethk> apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <bohemian> ta
[05:25] <Pelo> thanks bohemian
[05:25] <sethk> thoreauputic, damn, late again.  :)
[05:26] <richard> im stuck guys
[05:26] <thoreauputic> sethk: :)
[05:26] <sethk> richard, would you like us to recommend a lubricant, or do you have a more specific question?
[05:26] <Pelo> he's gonna freak, I just gave him all 3 comman lines
[05:26] <richard>  sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies
[05:26] <richard> doesnt work
[05:27] <richard> step 5 on that url above
[05:27] <JoseStefan> gem?
[05:27] <richard> http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake
[05:27] <richard> step 5
[05:27] <richard> any ideas
[05:27] <richard> ?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> dident we just decide that gem is some sort yf ruby tool
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> I would gyess you Missed a step.. or the guide is stupid.
[05:27] <richard> yeah but that doesnt help me install it
[05:27] <Phuzion> So, can someone help me out with my apt-cache problem?
[05:27] <Phuzion> 44% [Connecting to uk.archive.ubuntu.com (195.248.90.23)]  [Connecting to securi
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> or your paths dont include gem for some reason
[05:27] <Phuzion> it always stalls when running apt-get update
[05:28] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: use archive.ubuntu.com
[05:28] <Phuzion> I did
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> willis@amd64:~$ gem
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> bash: gem: command not found
[05:28] <Phuzion> Still stalled
[05:28] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: i still see uk.
[05:28] <sethk> Dr_Willis, or both
[05:28] <richard> so how do i install it!!!
[05:28] <Phuzion> I pasted the wrong thing
[05:28] <CorpseFeeder> i need someone with experience setting up RT61 wireless card to work with WPA-PSK. How do I get this thing work?
[05:28] <sethk> richard, what's the error, exactly?
[05:28] <Phuzion> I thought my pastebin was still in my clipboard
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> richard,  how about starting from the beginning wht What are you trying to isntall?
[05:29] <sethk> Phuzion, if you were using kde, it would be
[05:29] <richard> sudo gem install rails --include-dependencies
[05:29] <richard> sudo: gem: command not found
[05:29] <richard> http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/10/install-ruby-rails-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake
[05:29] <Phuzion> sethk:  I'm using my Windows machine right now, I don't have a multiple clipboard
[05:29] <richard> I cant do step 5
[05:29] <Crippy-Boy> richard: sudo apt-get install rails
[05:30] <richard> tried that
[05:30] <Crippy-Boy> richard: you have ruby installed, right?
[05:30] <richard> oh it worked this time
[05:30] <adcuritn> hello
[05:30] <zebedee> hi
[05:30] <Crippy-Boy> ~Lol
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> were you using th correct command the other times? :P
[05:31] <adcuritn> I was wondering if I could get some help with a serial console
[05:31] <JoseStefan> !info rails
[05:31] <ubotu> rails: MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 1723 kB, installed size 12820 kB
[05:31] <richard> lol
[05:31] <richard> well i am a noob
[05:31] <richard> only had linux ubuntu for 4 weeks
[05:31] <richard> first linux distro
[05:31] <richard> ex windows
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Linux tip #1 - when in doubt  *THINK*
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:32] <Crippy-Boy> richard: Well, if it says command not found, Your doing something wrong, or dont have something installed.
[05:32] <Crippy-Boy> Dr_Willis: That doesnt work.
[05:32] <richard> we noobs rely on guides ..... and when the guides dont work :(
[05:32] <Phuzion> Alright, can someone help me out here, because honestly, I don't want to have to flatten and re-install, this isn't Windows
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Crippy-Boy,  Tip #2 - see Rule #1 :P
[05:32] <adcuritn> What types of options of consoles does getty work with? (I.e. in /etc/inittab at the end of a line for serial consoles, it has vt100. I'd like to use adm3a. is this possible?)
[05:32] <hondje> The guide worked, you ignored it and tried to run gem without installing ruby
[05:32] <CorpseFeeder> is there noone here who can help setup RT61 chipset wireless cards?
[05:33] <mike> need help quick cant launch any programs
[05:33] <JoseStefan> richard, you can find most of the stuff you'd want to install in synaptic
[05:33] <Crippy-Boy> When in doubt, Kick the computer bang your head off a wall, Sleep on it then realise the answer was right infront of you but you were to stupid to realise
[05:33] <hondje> mike: Why can't you launch any programs?
[05:33] <caminomaster> HeLp me with a MIDI problem
[05:33] <Crippy-Boy> Failing that a 5 min break away from the computer helps :-)
[05:34] <adcuritn> can getty work with consoles emulating adm3a?
[05:34] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, put your sources.list on the !pastebin
[05:34] <Smoked1> So.. Does ubuntu give me any options to use slices durring the install?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> caminomaster,  care to give a little more details.
[05:34] <sewo> anyone running ubuntu in a sony vaio?
[05:35] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: You mean to put /home on seperate partitions etc?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> sewo,  theres a lot of difffent vaios
[05:35] <hondje> adcuritn: as long as /bin/login doesn't care
[05:35] <realist> !anyone
[05:35] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:35] <cvt> i'm on a 800mHz 128mB ram 1mB vid ram dell box
[05:35] <Smoked1> Crippy-Boy, yes
[05:35] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: Yes it does.
[05:35] <sewo> Dr_Willis, well yeah, but all of them have the /proc/acpi/sony issue
[05:35] <Smoked1> OK thats great then
[05:35] <sewo> so i want to confirm a bug related to that
[05:36] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22977
[05:36] <sewo> anyone?
[05:36] <tmccrary> I am trying to use Eclipse's internal web browser with ubuntu dapper, but I can't seem to find libswt-mozilla*.so for it anywhere.
[05:36] <tmccrary> Does this library even exist?
[05:36] <Smoked1> I think ubuntu and my laptop are going to have a great tinme
[05:36] <Smoked1> time
[05:36] <zebedee> yep
[05:36] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: Well me and mine are :-)
[05:36] <mike> hondje: ok u know the menue bar right?
[05:37] <hondje> mike: the panel on top with the menus? Yes
[05:37] <Smoked1> How is ubuntu server version? I usually use freebsd but I have used debian and loved it
[05:37] <Smoked1> ubuntu server version must be great
[05:37] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, looks good to me :(
[05:37] <mike> hondje:  well when i click the applications drop down it is flashing and i cant open any of the things in therre
[05:37] <Phuzion> Ehh
[05:37] <adcuritn> is it possible to set serial console to use only black and white and not colored fonts?
[05:37] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, i was hoping to find the solution there
[05:37] <Phuzion> Yeah
[05:37] <hondje> mike: flashing, like it's redrawing?
[05:37] <caminomaster> Dr_Willis, :/
[05:37] <Phuzion> I was hoping to god it was there
[05:37] <Phuzion> BUT NOOOO
[05:38] <tmccrary> Any 64-bit ubuntu eclipse users here?
[05:38] <mike> hondje: but the otehr drop downs like "places" and "system" work fine
[05:38] <Atomsk> !grub > Atomsk
[05:38] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, restart and then do sudo apt-get update right away, maybe
[05:38] <micah_hainline> w00t!  I finally got irc working.
[05:38] <caminomaster> Dr_Willis, my problem is that I don't know why
[05:38] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  Tried it
[05:38] <hondje> hmm
[05:38] <Phuzion> Nothing worked
[05:38] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: Im not sure, I use server version to install (but only do a basic install not LAMP) and the only server i have is a naff box with sshd running for when im using hotspots and wanna tunnel.
[05:38] <mike> hondje:  i am not sure what u mean by re-drawing but its like blink fast
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> adcuritn,  the 'color' is most likely comming from the ls colloring of the files.. that is disableable.
[05:38] <Crippy-Boy> And that runs debian.
[05:38] <brian98> well feck that
[05:38] <caminomaster> but my midis sometimes sounds ok, but sometimes don't sound
[05:38] <brian98> nvidia definitely seems more stable than ati!
[05:39] <caminomaster> the sequencer moves, but is mute
[05:39] <brian98> but it's configuration is up its arse
[05:39] <mike> hondje: any ideas?
[05:39] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, could it be something wrong with your network setup?
[05:39] <micah_hainline> Hey fellas.  I'm here hoping that someone will be able to help me get my sound working in Ubuntu 6.06
[05:39] <dragonguy> Hello, good weekend, who would like help me with my problem. my ubuntu says ACPI Unable to locate RSDP when boot
[05:39] <mike> my aplications drop down is blinking fast and i cant select anythign, anyone know how to fix it?
[05:39] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  I'm fully capable of downloading entire files from all the sites I try
[05:39] <hondje> tmccrary: it's in libswt3.1-gtk-jni
[05:39] <Tylerdurderner> what is the livecd root password?
[05:39] <hondje> mike: This is the gnome panel and not something else, right?
[05:40] <hondje> not gdesklets or something?
[05:40] <Smoked1> Wow this channel is way better than the freebsd channel
[05:40] <Phuzion> Livecd's root account is disabled, there is no root password
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Tylerdurdener,  there is none..
[05:40] <Crippy-Boy> I think you have to enable root
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Tylerdurdener: there isn't one
[05:40] <adcuritn> Dr_Willis, how can I disable this, I'm using a really old serial console and it when I Ls in ~ is shows 0m01:34Desktop0m
[05:40] <mike> hondje:  yes its in the gnome panel
[05:40] <tmccrary> hondje: you RULE, thank you! I say that lib but didn't make the connection! Awesome!
[05:40] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, you can still use sudo
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Tylerdurdener: just do sudo <command>
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> adcuritn,  try the ls man pages.. and notice the --nocolor option. :)
[05:40] <hondje> tmccrary: No problem :)
[05:40] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  Hold on, something's up
[05:40] <Smoked1> Are there any options durring the install that will let me use KDE instead of gnome?
[05:40] <Phuzion> wget can't get google.com/index.html
[05:40] <Tylerdurderner> thanks thoreaputic
[05:40] <JoseStefan> hmm
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Tylerdurdener: sudo -i  for a root shell
[05:41] <mike> Smoked1: u need to download kubuntu for kde
[05:41] <eyequeue> Smoked1, use the kubuntu cds
[05:41] <Phuzion> Smoked1:  You'll have to install the Kubuntu package after installing
[05:41] <micah_hainline> Can anyone even point me in the right direction?  I'm kind of lost with it.
[05:41] <CorpseFeeder> D-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.
[05:41] <hondje> mike: Have you restarted X? That's a strange problem to be having, and would probably take a bit of debugging to find
[05:41] <mike> hondje:  any ideas on how to fix it?
[05:41] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, lets try to wget something on archive.ubuntu.com, i'll give you a full link
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> adcuritn,  or look at 'ls --help' at the bottom of the info
[05:41] <Juul> i really want to use a 2.6.16+ kernel but the latest in dapper is 2.6.15, is there a 2.6.16+ kernel with the dapper patches already applied out there somwhere? or can i get the dapper patchset somewhere and apply it to a vanilla linux kernel?
[05:41] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  Mind doing this through PM?
[05:41] <mike> hondje:  how shoudl i restart x? by logging out and back in?
[05:41] <Smoked1> Thanks guys. Is it just as good as the gnome install?
[05:41] <thoreauputic> mike: that will do it, yes
[05:41] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, not registered on this side
[05:41] <hondje> mike: well, you'd have to go an extra step and ctrl-alt-backspace after you logged out
[05:41] <eyequeue> Smoked1, no
[05:42] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, you can make your own channel though
[05:42] <Phuzion> JoseStefan:  What?
[05:42] <Smoked1> Or is ubuntu primarly focused at gnome?
[05:42] <thoreauputic> mike: unless you are in a tty
[05:42] <JoseStefan> Phuzion, not register = i cant pm
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Smoked1,  i use KDE on it.
[05:42] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: kubuntu is good
[05:42] <mike> hondje:  whast the ctr=alt-backspace for
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Smoked1,  and other window managers/de's as well.
[05:42] <bohemian> kubuntu is very good
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Smoked1,  but most of the docs/guides assume you are using gnome
[05:43] <thoreauputic> fluxbox ftw!
[05:43] <thoreauputic> :D
[05:43] <hondje> mike: that restarts X all the way, logging out just restarts gnome
[05:43] <Crippy-Boy> Yep, Where fluxbuntu? :D
[05:43] <Crippy-Boy> where's*
[05:43] <Zanth_> good day, two days ago my psu died and so I installed a new one...now, grub won't post anything but a few lines of repeating 9's
[05:43] <Smoked1> I already created the disk for ubuntu. I take it that I can use apt-get to install KDE?
[05:43] <mike> ok so right now do a ctr-alt-backspace ?
[05:43] <sethk> Smoked1, yes
[05:43] <sethk> Smoked1, that's how I do it.
[05:43] <brian98> Why don't they make video drivers easy eh?
[05:43] <brian98> eh?
[05:43] <Smoked1> then all is good and I can try both :?0
[05:43] <hondje> mike: sure, if you're ready to log out
[05:43] <Smoked1> :0
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <Crippy-Boy> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop would be better
[05:43] <mike> hondje:  what will happen after i hit those keys?
[05:43] <Smoked1> sweet
[05:44] <PWill> hondje: it will restart x
[05:44] <Zanth_> is there an easy way to try to laod my system? perahps using a live disc like gnoppix?
[05:44] <mike> hondje:  will  i have to do naythign else?
[05:44] <hondje> mike: You'll log out, the screen will turn black, and then the login screen will appear after it restarts
[05:44] <PWill> mike, rather
[05:44] <Smoked1> I am used to using FreeBSD and have little experince with X
[05:44] <mike> hond and then just log in as normal in the gui
[05:44] <mike> PWill: rather what?
[05:44] <Smoked1> I usually to things from an ssh command line
[05:44] <hondje> mike: Yeah...it's just a shot in the dark, but when gnome-panel starts freaking out that's what I would do.
[05:44] <tmccrary> hondje: I am using eclipse 3.2, so I need a newer version of libswt mozilla. Do you use eclipse or did you search packages?
[05:45] <Deeah> What is the best dapper guide for those cool affects(XGL or AIGLX?), I have an ATI Radeon 9100 card, and the free(libre) OSS driver "ati" works great for me for 3d accel stuff. What is the best guide to get that eye candy?
[05:45] <thoreauputic> gdesklets are crack anyway, IMHO
[05:45] <PWill> mike, i sent a message to hondje, instead of you. i was just saying that pressing ctrl+alt+<backspace> restarts x
[05:45] <hondje> tmccrary: I just did a apt-file search libswt | grep moz
[05:45] <tmccrary> ah, ok.
[05:45] <Smoked1> Are there any linux/ubuntu apps that I should install that a techie/IT Manager would like?
[05:46] <micah_hainline> So guys, if Ubuntu doesn't recognize my sound card, am I pretty much just screwed?  Will I need to actually go buy a better supported card, or is there something I can do about it?
[05:46] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: what kind of apps?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: ethereal ? *g*
[05:46] <mike> hondje:  that didnt do anything
[05:46] <PWill> micah_hainline: have you looked at the wiki for support?
[05:46] <micah_hainline> No I haven't
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> micah_hainline,  google for your soundcard/chipset and check the alsa homepage. it may be a work in progress
[05:46] <Smoked1> Exactly, apps like nmap, ethereal
[05:46] <Smoked1> etc.
[05:46] <mike> help with flashing applications drop down, i cant open any applications now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: all there in the repos
[05:47] <thoreauputic> !info nmap
[05:47] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.03-3 (dapper), package size 688 kB, installed size 2380 kB
[05:47] <Smoked1> Sweet
[05:47] <thoreauputic> !info ethereal
[05:47] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[05:47] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I was messing aroudn with gnome panels earlier and screwed a few things up...I've got the default setup back now with the menu for open programs down at the bottom as it is in the default install...however there are three dots before the first open program...how do I remove this?
[05:47] <micah_hainline> Thanks Dr Willis and PW.  Do you guys have an address for those?
[05:47] <hondje> mike: hehe, really? that's kinda funny ... okay, press alt-f2 and enter 'gksudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' and that should work (in theory)
[05:48] <PWill> micah_hainline: i'm cheking, hold on
[05:48] <Crippy-Boy> Sweet, nessus is in the repos
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> micah_hainline,  other then google.com :P no.
[05:48] <brian98> sweet jebus
[05:48] <sethk> Gevaudan82, I think you can right click and delete.  I can't check though; I'm on kde
[05:48] <shadowhywind> anyone have some time to help with some ndiswrapper errors??
[05:48] <brian98> Give me strength
[05:48] <stormchas3r> How do i get gnome updated to 2.16 with synaptic pm?
[05:48] <PWill> micah_hainline: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:48] <Smoked1> nessus is sweet
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: and of course tcpdump is installed by default, afaik
[05:48] <micah_hainline> :P I meant the Alsa page Willis
[05:48] <Smoked1> ice
[05:48] <Smoked1> nice
[05:48] <micah_hainline> I found it but it's down.
[05:48] <thoreauputic> stormchas3r: in edgy
[05:49] <micah_hainline> Sweet.  Thanks P
[05:49] <Gevaudan82> sethk: thanks, i tried that but it deletes the whole window menu...nothing in preferences either :\
[05:49] <stormchas3r> dapper
[05:49] <sethk> thoreauputic, even if it isn't, it would be installed as a dependency of ethereal
[05:49] <thoreauputic> stormchas3r: no, I mean if you want the latest gnome you need edgy
[05:49] <thoreauputic> sethk: true
[05:49] <shadowhywind> anyone? *good with ndiswrapper*
[05:49] <stormchas3r> thoreauputic, ty for the info
[05:49] <Smoked1> One last question before I get flamed.. Will it detect my laptop's centrino CPU and allow me to connect to my wireless network on install?
[05:49] <sethk> Gevaudan82, you can search for it in files in $HOME/.gnome*   (I think it is .gnome-2, but it might be .gnome-2,  do ls -ld .gnome* to see the directory name)
[05:49] <Schalken> is there anywhere where i can download a .deb for gimp 2.4?
[05:49] <vicscandl> ! 64bit > vicscandl
[05:50] <sethk> Gevaudan82, do grep -r in that directory for one of the programs on the list.  that should find the file with the bogus data.
[05:50] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: depends on the wireless card.
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: that depends on your chipset I guess ( I don't know )
[05:50] <Juul> where can i find the latest ubuntu kernel patches?
[05:50] <Smoked1> This is the only system that I have right now so I will need net access
[05:50] <stormchas3r> What do I need to study to pass the "Ubuntu Certified Professional" Exam?
[05:50] <Smoked1> it's the centrino
[05:50] <sethk> Gevaudan82, of course, you could delete the directory, which would put you precisely where you were the first time you ran gnome
[05:50] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: Its fine on my laptop (thinkpad) but the prism chipset works great with linux.
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: check the laptop on the wiki
[05:51] <zebedee> smoked1:not if its rtl8180l based
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: there's acompatibility chart there
[05:51] <PWill> Schalken: why do you need a deb? isn't it in the repos?
[05:51] <Smoked1> I assume it's at ubuntu.com :0
[05:51] <CorpseFeeder> D-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.
[05:51] <Gevaudan82> sethk: all i have in ~/.gnome is a file gnome-vfs even when doing ls -la ...so your saying if i remove that file or at least move it for the time being and restart gnome things should be ago?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:51] <PWill> Schalken: oh, 2.4. yeah, lemme check.
[05:51] <Crippy-Boy> theres always ndiswrapper
[05:51] <Smoked1> thanks, I can't wait to be rid of this windows shit
[05:52] <zebedee> hooray
[05:52] <sethk> Gevaudan82, yes, but I believe there are two subdirectories related to gnome.  so do   ls -ld .gnome* and delete both (if two show up)
[05:52] <thoreauputic> !docs > Smoked1
[05:52] <Smoked1> I am so tired of it\
[05:52] <sethk> Gevaudan82, if you don't mind returning to pristine
[05:52] <Gevaudan82> sethk: oops nevermind, you were right, should have done .gnome*...it's in gnome2
[05:52] <mike> hondje:  that didnt work either
[05:52] <sethk> Gevaudan82, ah, good.
[05:52] <brian98> on the subjects of laptops I installed a fujitsu siemens s7010 today with ubuntu and it installed EVERYTHING
[05:52] <zebedee> no crashes
[05:52] <brian98> no additional drivers
[05:52] <brian98> even 3d support
[05:52] <Smoked1> I swear there is no way to avoid spyware with windows!
[05:52] <shadowhywind> can anyone help with ndiswrapper errors?
[05:52] <sethk> brian98, sounds good
[05:52] <Smoked1> fragmentation is a nightmware
[05:52] <vicscandl> windows *is* spyware
[05:53] <Crippy-Boy> Hey Smoked1: Just curious, What brought you to ubuntu and not one of the Desktop *BSD's if your familiar with FreeBSD?
[05:53] <zebedee> and slow
[05:53] <PWill> Smoked1: sure there is. don't use it.
[05:53] <PWill> :-P
[05:53] <brian98> sethk: I was blown away
[05:53] <sethk> Smoked1, there is for a day or two, until somebody releases a slightly different exploit  :)
[05:53] <thoreauputic> Smoked1: you're preaching to the choir ;)
[05:53] <brian98> no config required at all!
[05:53] <brian98> I mean
[05:53] <mike> hondje:  any more ideas?
[05:53] <sethk> brian98, I had a similar experience with a fujitsu laptop
[05:53] <Gevaudan82> sethk: just one more thing to clarify...is this going to remove all my shortcuts added in /usr/share/applications, my gdm logo, etc etc...basically anything else besides the panel?
[05:53] <brian98> you wouldn't get that with windows
[05:53] <sethk> brian98, even configured the wireless.
[05:53] <micah_hainline> Grr.  Alsa is down.  I guess I'll have to wait until the website comes back up again before I can trouble shoot this thing.
[05:53] <PWill> sethk: fujitsu makes lappys!?!
[05:53] <Smoked1> Crippy-Boy, I searched google and I found that it is the most compatable with laptops
[05:53] <brian98> in fact bluetooth support wouldnt work under windows
[05:53] <sethk> Gevaudan82, yes.  if you don't want that, then search the files in .gnome2 and find the offending lines
[05:53] <brian98> and it does unduer ubuntu
[05:53] <micah_hainline> Thanks for the help guys, you got me on the right track I think
[05:53] <brian98> amazing
[05:53] <Crippy-Boy> Smoked1: fair enough.
[05:54] <Gevaudan82> sethk: cool thanks again
[05:54] <Neo8750> Xfce 4 Desktop Environment
[05:54] <Neo8750> version 4.3.99.1 (Xfce 4.4 RC1)
[05:54] <Neo8750> mmmmm
[05:54] <Crippy-Boy> Heh, ive never had a prob with hardware support with laptop, but then i only have a fairly old thinkpad.
[05:54] <vicscandl> AMD64, 120GB SATA as primary. setup stops @ 5% with an errorbox stating 'Failed to create a filesystem'
[05:54] <Neo8750> how old?
[05:54] <vicscandl> any takers?
[05:55] <brian98> sethk: but then it was reality check time when I got home, I;'ve been having a lot of crashes with my ATI card so I got a nice new Nvidia card out of stock... Installed the nvidia card and jebus
[05:55] <Deeah> I installed "stellarium" to "Applications/Education" are there any other cool adult education programs like that?
[05:55] <mike> help with gnome menue!!!
[05:55] <brian98> why do they make it so feckin awkward to config those drivers
[05:55] <Lilandra> JoseStefan?
[05:55] <Smoked1> Crippy-Boy, also my favorite unix distro is Debian and the compatability of ubuntu mixed with the ability to use apt-get makes my loins drip
[05:55] <Crippy-Boy> Not *THAT* old but certainly not new, P3-M 1.2, 1g ram, wireless.
[05:55] <PWill> mike: what's wrong
[05:55] <JoseStefan> Lilandra?
[05:55] <Lilandra> JoseStefan, well i have cpu, mobo, optical drive, ram
[05:56] <Lilandra> it hasn't crashed yet but it's ... *loading* little white circle is still there
[05:56] <Neo8750> better then my thinkpad that i;m using now
[05:56] <Smoked1> I just hope that I don't piss off# ubuntu with all of my questions after the install :9
[05:56] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, give it a few minutes?
[05:56] <Crippy-Boy> Neo8750: What ya using?
[05:56] <Lilandra> alrighty! :)
[05:56] <vicscandl> is there a chatroom specific for 64bit ubuntu?
[05:56] <Deeah> Smoked1, You won't piss off anyone, they'll just ignore you.
[05:56] <Neo8750> os[Linux 2.6.17-7-386 - Debian testing/unstable]  up[ 13 hours, 21 minutes]  cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 547.676 MHz (1096.84 bogomips)]  mem[ 120.83/123.26 MB (98.0%)]  video[ at 1024x768 (32 bits)] 
[05:56] <PWill> Smoked1: we're here to help :)
[05:56] <Lilandra> i can't even switch the consoles there
[05:57] <thomas> hey guys, my cron command is still not working. as user i added a bash script to excecute, and it hasn't yet. it is executable. Must it be added as root?what i'm a doing wrong?
[05:57] <zebedee> or try
[05:57] <Boelcke> Anyone here have success with a Creative Zen V mp3 player?  I'm not getting libmtp to even see the thing...
[05:57] <PWill> Boelcke: what music manager are you using?
[05:57] <Smoked1> thomas. I suggest first showing the command
[05:57] <Smoked1> Maybe you missed something
[05:57] <Neo8750> this is a 700 mhz but if i turn speedstep on it overheats and freezes
[05:58] <Crippy-Boy> Nice
[05:58] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, did it panic?
[05:58] <Lilandra> well when i switch i can't see the screen...it's kinda...black and maroon
[05:58] <Neo8750> well i'm going to bed
[05:58] <PWill> 'night
[05:58] <CalcMaster86> hey, i have a question--i've just installed a second hard drive in my computer running ubuntu, and i'm having trouble setting up a file table for it. fdisk -l shows that the computer recognizes the volume as /dev/hde, but even when i mke2fs -j /dev/hde, it will not create a partition table
[05:58] <Schalken> PWill: any gimp 2.4 deb?
[05:58] <BonBonTheJon> anyone have any experience with RIADs on ubuntu
[05:58] <Boelcke> PWill, I manually installed gnomad2 2.8.8, and libmtp 0.0.17.
[05:58] <Lilandra> JoseStefan: i don't think it's panicked because it's still respondingn to mouse moving
[05:59] <Crippy-Boy> I had a problem with heat untill i upgraded the kernel no idea why, Its normally around 40-55 now, Not too bad
[05:59] <zebedee> Neo8750: much ram ?
[05:59] <sethk> CalcMaster86, that command doesn't create a partition table, it creates a file system
[05:59] <Lilandra> is it ctrl+alt+bkspc that refreshes?
[05:59] <PWill> Schalken: no, sorry. only 2.2. You could always buid from source
[05:59] <sethk> run fdisk /dev/hde   to create partitions
[05:59] <thomas> * * * * * postip >/dev/null 2>&1 # , /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application.png
[05:59] <PWill> it's not hard, we can walk you through it
[05:59] <Schalken> PWill: that never works for me :(
[05:59] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, that restarts x
[05:59] <PWill> Boelcke: try rhythmbox
[05:59] <Lilandra> hmmm
[05:59] <vicscandl> mmmm unix and coffee... good idea...
[05:59] <thomas> Smoked1: hows that look?
[05:59] <sethk> CalcMaster86, then you run mkfs on the partition (or partitions, if you make more than one)
[05:59] <i3d> any app under linux can show a dvd device can support what type of media format?
[06:00] <PWill> Schalken: have you tried with the GIMP 2.4 before?
[06:00] <Schalken> PWill: nope
[06:00] <thomas> i3d: any format supported by your system.
[06:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> rhythmbox is great for dvd or xine :)
[06:00] <CorpseFeeder> should Ubuntu be renamed to Unconfigurabletu? ..or perhaps Unusabletu or Unsetupabletu? ;)
[06:00] <Schalken> PWill: where was that MOTU howto to set up a compiling environment?
[06:00] <i3d> thomas: what do you mean?
[06:00] <Smoked1> thomas, I am not familiar with the binary that you are pointing to
[06:00] <Boelcke> PWill, I haven't tried that.  I suppose I could.  Apparently, theres some issue with these mtp mp3 players (mtp is some microsoft file transfer thingy).  They don't show up as regular usb devices...
[06:00] <Smoked1> sorry
[06:01] <PWill> Schalken: run this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:01] <Schalken> CorpseFeeder: whats the problem?
[06:01] <thomas> Smoked1: i said it is a bash script, it is executable, and i know for a fact it works. If i enter the command in terminal it works.
[06:01] <CalcMaster86> sethk, the swap partition is just like virtual memory in windows, right? it's a place to write temporarily to instead of ram... so i shouldn't need another swap partition, right?
[06:01] <CorpseFeeder> can't setup wireless card
[06:01] <thomas> Smoked1: if terminal can execute it, shouldn't cron be able to?
[06:01] <thomas> !wireless
[06:01] <mtholdenss> how can we get the gnome updates?
[06:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:02] <Schalken> CorpseFeeder: is it in the supported card list?
[06:02] <CorpseFeeder> no
[06:02] <Lilandra> what is sstart ubuntu in safe graphcis mode?
[06:02] <CorpseFeeder> D-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.
[06:02] <Schalken> PWill: thanks, downloading...
[06:02] <thomas> mtholdenss: sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> mytholdenss sudo apt-get update
[06:02] <Smoked1> Have you checked /var/messages just to see if there are permissions issues?
[06:02] <thomas> Smoked1: do you know why cron wouldn't be able to execute it?
[06:03] <adam> Hi. What's a good way to install gvim7 on Ubuntu Dapper 6.06
[06:03] <adam> +?
[06:03] <mtholdenss> is new gnome really good, any new features?
[06:03] <PWill> thomas: there was a cron update 2 days ago...
[06:03] <maple1> how do I download porn on ubuntu?
[06:04] <Deeah> What is the best dapper guide for those cool affects(XGL or AIGLX?), I have an ATI Radeon 9100 card, and the free(libre) OSS driver "ati" works great for me for 3d accel stuff. What is the best guide to get that eye candy?
[06:04] <PWill> thomas: does cron work with any other commands?
[06:04] <thomas> PWill: its set to execute 2 days?
[06:04] <Smoked1> if the user that the crontab belongs to does not have rights to the bash file or what the bash file is doing it won't work
[06:04] <sethk> adam, build from source
[06:04] <Schalken> PWill: okay now can i download the source and do the compile thing?
[06:04] <Deeah> maple1, Use pornotube.com not youtube
[06:04] <PWill> hahahahahah
[06:04] <JoseStefan> maple1: man wget
[06:04] <adam> adam: seriously?  I'd much rather let apt manage it...
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> maple1, www.fbi.gov has plenty
[06:04] <thomas> OHHH thankyou Smoked1.
[06:04] <thomas> durr ehh
[06:04] <thomas> i thought i had more sense than that.
[06:04] <PWill> Schalken: yep
[06:04] <adam> sethk: seriously?  I'd much rather let apt manage it...
[06:04] <mtholdenss> mapl1 watch what u ask for here..
[06:04] <thomas> cheers.
[06:05] <maple1> how about ubuntu-calendar?\
[06:05] <sethk> adam, I don't think there is a binary of v7 yet.  Does synaptic show it as an available package?
[06:05] <adam> sethk: nope, but it's a freshly installed Ubuntu, maybe I should add some repos?
[06:05] <mtholdenss> how do u know if we got the latest gnome?
[06:05] <Smoked1> thomas, sorry this is my first time in #ubuntu. Just trying to help where I can but will STFU till I have been here longer as I don't know who people are.
[06:05] <sethk> adam, might have to uncomment some.
[06:05] <PWill> mtholdenss: go to system>about gnome
[06:06] <sethk> adam, but I haven't seen a binary of v7.  is there something in v7 that you need that isn't in v6?
[06:06] <xHitSx> como entro num canal brasileiro??
[06:06] <adam> sethk: sure: OmniCompletion, spell checking...
[06:06] <sethk> !br
[06:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:06] <Lilandra> JoseStefan
[06:06] <sethk> adam, vim isn't difficult to build, I've done it many times.
[06:06] <Lilandra> I booted into safegraphcis mode
[06:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> lol some hackers made windows xp live  i was amazed by it
[06:07] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, never used that :/
[06:07] <Lilandra> lol :)
[06:07] <PWill> Unix_n_Coffee: wait, what?
[06:07] <adam> sethk: yeah, I just don't like the idea. I have bad experience with building stuff myself then maintaining over a long period of time.
[06:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> Pwill windows xp on a cd thats live like ubuntu is :)
[06:07] <PWill> Unix_n_Coffee: oh. heh.
[06:07] <Lilandra> JoseStefan, error message: The gnome session manager has crashed due to a fatal error (seg fault). when you close this dialog all apps will close and session will exit
[06:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> i hate windows never will go back i thought it was cool tho
[06:07] <sethk> adam, unfortunately, sometimes it's the only way.
[06:07] <Unix_n_Coffee> it was a torrent
[06:08] <PWill> Unix_n_Coffee: i was gonna say... who would want that :P
[06:08] <BHSPitLappy> Unix_n_Coffee, BartPE?
[06:08] <Lilandra> but at least it launched
[06:08] <Schalken> whats the difference between gimp 2.3 and 2.4, when 2.2 is the current stable?
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> hello... I have a big problem... I`ve installed the breezy version of ubuntu and used for some time... but today I was try to use the dapper drake version and of the middle at installation process I press reset
[06:08] <adam> sethk: actually I already found a deb: http://www.freshnet.org/debian/dapper/vim7/
[06:08] <BHSPitLappy> orcdestroyer, why'd you do that.
[06:08] <JoseStefan> Lilandra, either something is wrong with your hardware, or ubuntu doesnt like your hardware
[06:08] <adam> sethk: just wondering if it's the best way or if there's a better one.
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> and right now when I try to enter or access my windows xp... show up some error GRUB error 15
[06:08] <eyequeue> debian/dapper huh? :)
[06:09] <Lilandra> yeah :(
[06:09] <orcdestroyer> BHSPitLappy: scare
[06:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> Hey just a simple question if someones willing to help me out, my laptop is running ubuntu linux awesome for 3 years now my dell desktop isnt working with the sound in amarok? any ideas
[06:09] <Schalken> orcdestroyer: okay. just go into the live cd, delete the ubuntu partition and reinstall ubuntu.
[06:09] <Unix_n_Coffee> its onboard the sound
[06:09] <PWill> Schalken: nothing, much
[06:09] <BHSPitLappy> Unix_n_Coffee, does amarok look like it's playing?
[06:09] <CorpseFeeder> does anyone else here have a wireless card which uses RT61 chipset?
[06:09] <PWill> Schalken: mostly new features. the stable will be out soon enough
[06:09] <Schalken> PWill: why do they move onto 2.4 when 2.3 isnt stable yet?
[06:10] <orcdestroyer> Schalken: but I have just the dapper drake CDdd
[06:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> yes it does play the sound but with no sound
[06:10] <BHSPitLappy> CorpseFeeder, are you by chance using an airlink card?
[06:10] <Schalken> PWill: i see.
[06:10] <orcdestroyer> not the breezy
[06:10] <Juul> orcdestroyer, or you can use the windows xp cd to go restore the windows master boot record. i'm sure windows support people can help you with that real quick
[06:10] <CorpseFeeder> yes it is airlink
[06:10] <adam> if I have AMD64, do I have to download the special Ubuntu release for it, or can I just get the i386?
[06:10] <PWill> Schalken: well, that's just how development processes work. Mozilla is already working on firefox 3.0, and 2.0 isn't stable
[06:10] <orcdestroyer> ok
[06:10] <eyequeue> adam, either
[06:10] <Schalken> orcdestroyer: you have valuable data in the ubuntu partition?
[06:10] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone have the same problem or similar problem
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> Schalken: I think so
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> I using the 6.06 LTS version right now
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> but its not installed
[06:11] <orcdestroyer> yet
[06:11] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, only amarok?
[06:11] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, or all programs?
[06:11] <adam> eyequeue: but if I get the AMD64, then later I have to get only AMD64 deb packages, right?
[06:11] <zebedee> corpsefeeder: has it a rtl 8180l chip in it ?
[06:11] <Unix_n_Coffee> only amarok it seems to be
[06:11] <mtholdenss> maple be careful of porn your isp may have a policy of porn...
[06:12] <CorpseFeeder> no, it is RT61
[06:12] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, did it stop working after an upgrade?
[06:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> ubuntu plays its sound in the begging and end of session xmms works just not amarok
[06:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> i am not sure juul
[06:12] <eyequeue> adam, i believe so, but i also know many amd64 users say the i386 work better for them
[06:12] <BHSPitLappy> CorpseFeeder, sorry, but I've tried and tried to get my friends' airlink cards to work for them, but I always end up with a brown screen of deat.
[06:12] <sethk> adam, if you install 64 bit, then yes, you have to use compatible packages
[06:12] <BHSPitLappy> +h
[06:12] <Unix_n_Coffee> kinda strange...
[06:12] <zebedee> different me thinks :-(
[06:12] <sethk> adam, 64 bit is still immature
[06:12] <eyequeue> adam, perhaps best to get their opinions rather than mine :)
[06:12] <mtholdenss> gnome 2.16
[06:13] <adam> eyequeue: how do I do that
[06:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> i love my dell laptop with ubuntu everything works on it :) got the mac os x look
[06:13] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, hmm, i don't have amarok, but maybe your system is now using alsa for sound and amarok is still using oss
[06:13] <eyequeue> adam, lurk long enough to see them? :)  i'm not sure
[06:13] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, there might be a preference in amarok to select between alsa or oss
[06:13] <adam> sethk: it also appearantly lacks some packages... adding that to your comments, I hardly see the point of the AMD64 release?
[06:13] <darkbutterfly> what is the gnome applet that allows me to use paste bin?
[06:13] <adam> (which I am currently running)
[06:13] <Unix_n_Coffee> yes i tried the preferences in ammarok
[06:14] <Unix_n_Coffee> :| no success
[06:14] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, but i haven't tried amarok before so i couldn't say. you can check first if xmms is using oss or alsa for output in preferences
[06:14] <Juul> ah
[06:14] <Unix_n_Coffee> Great idea Juul how would i do that?
[06:14] <vaportrace> Greetings ubuntootians
[06:14] <stormchas3r3> Unix_n_Coffee: how did you get the os x look?
[06:15] <Unix_n_Coffee> stormchas3r3 PM me ;)
[06:15] <vaportrace> any gxiners here?
[06:15] <l33t_n00b> i need some help...
[06:15] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, open up xmms, hit ctrl+p this opens up preferences. at the bottom of the dialog an output plugin is selected, is it the alsa plugin?
[06:15] <l33t_n00b> when i try to launch an app, the icon appears then disappears and nothing pops up
[06:15] <Juul> Unix_n_Coffee, also, tell me what: "cat .asoundrc.asoundconf" outputs
[06:18] <vaportrace> GXine? Got Windows Media to play with in firefox but cant get much anything else. Also am wondering if (G)Xine can understand Qtime in firefox.
[06:18] <vaportrace> send links
[06:18] <vaportrace> or good advice
[06:18] <Schalken> how come new app versions dont get into the repos?
[06:18] <VoX> is the samba package broken?
[06:19] <sethk> VoX, not that I know of.  why?
[06:19] <JoseStefan> Vox, no
[06:19] <vaportrace> Arrgh (Clarify)in Ubuntu playing Win Media files
[06:19] <VoX> im trying to install samba and get this error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[06:19] <l33t_n00b> Schalken: it takes forever for the new updates to be put in the repos...usually every release they update the versions
[06:20] <JoseStefan> VoX, sounds like repository issues
[06:20] <Schalken> l33t_n00b: what about the universe repo? isnt that supposed to contain the latest ver of ubuntu's apps?
[06:20] <Schalken> l33t_n00b: or was it backports...
[06:20] <VoX> JoseStefan: i've got 3 different repo's listed.. they shouldnt /all/ be busted
[06:20] <vaportrace> OK this is a stupid question. What config file keeps the list of suggested apps to open in gnome when you click a file?
[06:20] <Schalken> im confused :S
[06:20] <hondje> when a release is made, only bugs and security fixes are made, features don't get upgraded.
[06:21] <JoseStefan> Vox, put your sources.list on the !pastebin
[06:21] <vaportrace> Comon ppl I'm dien in the Debian Ref manual
[06:21] <vaportrace> :(
[06:22] <VoX> JoseStefan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22980
[06:22] <l33t_n00b> Schalken: yeah im confused to
[06:22] <fivre> SO GUYS
[06:22] <Smoked1> Im off to backup my data from my windows box so that I can try ubuntu on my laptop. Evryone wish me luck on this journey because god know things like this never go as planned. :)
[06:22] <fivre> IM WRITIN MY COLLEGE ESSAY ON 4CHAN
[06:22] <l33t_n00b> !backports
[06:22] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[06:22] <brian98> I hate graphics drivers, it's official
[06:22] <brian98> just wanted to share with the group
[06:22] <fivre> oops wrong window
[06:23] <hondje> Something tells me his college is the University of Phoenix....
[06:23] <l33t_n00b> !universe
[06:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:23] <Deeah> How can I make the gnome panel weather thing show my town? I can't put in my zip, I have to chose from towns already listed. But the closest town is 15 minutes away.
[06:23] <sinisterr> is there a sysinfo app for ubuntu?
[06:23] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   you have downloaded http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz  ?
[06:23] <JoseStefan> Vox: ok, i see many problems
[06:23] <zebedee> honjie: lol
[06:23] <VoX> JoseStefan: oh?
[06:23] <mike> help
[06:24] <CorpseFeeder> yes
[06:24] <JoseStefan> Vox: i dont think you should have copies of the same repository, as mirrors can be out of sync
[06:24] <mike> aplication drop down from gnome menue is blinking and dosent work
[06:24] <vaportrace> toss it in mike
[06:24] <CorpseFeeder> D-LInk DWL-G510 Rev C (Australian model) RT61 chipset. Is supported under Linux with driver from RaLink website RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0 and firmware RT61_Firmware_Ver1.2 This card supports WPA-PSK encryption - I can't work out how to get the damned thing set up under Ubuntu. If anyone can help please do as I've spent almost a week on this problem so far.
[06:24] <bohemian> untarred it?
[06:24] <mike> vaportrace:  aplications menus blinks and dosent work
[06:24] <VoX> JoseStefan: hmm point
[06:24] <mike> vaportrace:  when i lcick the drop down menue comes down and just blinks and i cant click anything
[06:25] <bohemian> ie tar -zxfv RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz
[06:25] <sinisterr> CorpseFeeder: what would it be?
[06:25] <melon> am learning as i go.. so play nice.. .. i'm editing my screen resolution and have tried: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but i get "cannot open display (null)"
[06:25] <vaportrace> :?
[06:25] <l33t_n00b> when i try to launch an app, the icon appears then disappears and nothing pops up
[06:25] <melon> what am i doing wrong?
[06:25] <CorpseFeeder> bohemian: yes
[06:25] <JoseStefan> Vox: you also dont have dapper-updates nor dapper-security. Not that they are mandatory, but they are recommended
[06:25] <bohemian> what have you done since?
[06:25] <VoX> JoseStefan: ok, i commented-out all but the archive.ubuntu repo's, still getting the same error
[06:26] <bohemian> have you read the readme file from the archive?
[06:26] <CorpseFeeder> wait.. i find some links to all the howto's I have done
[06:26] <JoseStefan> Vox: you probably had them in the past and have samba references for the dapper-updates and dapper, and have the version problems you are seeing.
[06:26] <vaportrace> mike whens the last time you updated? perhaps you've got partials
[06:26] <cvt> what's the lightest word application?
[06:26] <maple1> MS word
[06:26] <cvt> word processor*
[06:26] <maple1> MS word
[06:26] <VoX> JoseStefan: the system was installed less than 12 hours ago
[06:26] <mike> vaportrace:  i am on edgy
[06:26] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   what kernel are you running?
[06:27] <vaportrace> eek
[06:27] <cvt> kword kprocessor kapplication*
[06:27] <maple1> cvt: try Koffice or bloated openoffice
[06:27] <mike> vaportrace:  it started after i fooled around with adesklets and gdesklets
[06:27] <l33t_n00b> i like abiword
[06:27] <maple1> try vim
[06:27] <Mangix> i'm getting issues
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[06:27] <cvt> maple1,  i know how to try random apps. i'm looking for the lightest
[06:27] <JoseStefan> Vox: if you would like to have an updated system you should add 2 more lines, one with dapper-updates and another with dapper-security
[06:27] <CorpseFeeder> done everything here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980
[06:27] <Mangix> i can't start up Wolfentein properly
[06:27] <Mangix> help me
[06:27] <maple1> vim
[06:27] <maple1> or gedit\
[06:27] <brian98> unless you want to strangle your wife
[06:27] <Mangix> i even tried sudo
[06:27] <Mangix> nothing works
[06:28] <CorpseFeeder> abd here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rt6
[06:28] <Adross> through no fault of its own, ubuntu is using the xgl server by default when I log in. Is there anyway to change this back so gdm is configured to run the standard x server?
[06:28] <b0ysc0ut> how can i update to the new version of gnome 2.16 on depper drake?
[06:28] <maple1> cvt: just pay $1000 for M$ office and run it through wine
[06:28] <BHSPitLappy> bohemian, have you had success with an airlink card? (or another rt61)
[06:29] <vaportrace> mike havn't tried the desklets (assume the web pkg) though recall something about latest version on older ubuntu versions. hmmm
[06:29] <CorpseFeeder> and tried all of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rt61WirelessCardsHowTo
[06:29] <bohemian> BHSPitLappy,   I've not even tried
[06:29] <Adross> b0ysc0ut: firstly, scouts rocks. Secondly, you can't, you'll need to install edgy(well, you can, but realistically, you shouldn't)
[06:29] <cvt> maple1,  that's your solution for all of life's problems--just pay
[06:29] <BHSPitLappy> bohemian, ah.
[06:29] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   does the card get detected?
[06:29] <maple1> cvt, use kpoker for text
[06:29] <VoX> JoseStefan: ah, yes, dapper-updates did the trick
[06:29] <cvt> maple1,  i'll use wine and steam
[06:29] <JoseStefan> Vox, ok
[06:29] <maple1> use steam console for text
[06:29] <b0ysc0ut> thank u Adross
[06:29] <vaportrace> mike check the desklets site for that info
[06:30] <BHSPitLappy> Adross, scout rocks? are those different from regular rocks?
[06:30] <maple1> then use prntscrn
[06:30] <Adross> BHSPitLappy: never mind
[06:30] <BHSPitLappy> :P
[06:30] <b0ysc0ut> :)
[06:30] <VoX> JoseStefan: many thanks
[06:30] <maple1> cvtm sudo su su su vim sudo sudoedit su sudo root
[06:30] <JoseStefan> BHSPitLappy, scout rocks are the first to fall before an avalanche
[06:30] <BHSPitLappy> JoseStefan, ah, the brave souls.
[06:31] <JoseStefan> Vox, np
[06:31] <Deeah> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Oirw7b38.html
[06:31] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   I would read the ralink linux forums if I were you, and follow the instructions there. they're accessible from the same page you grabbed the filoe from
[06:31] <CorpseFeeder> i don't know if the card is detected or not. sometimes it appears in System>Admin>Networking as Ra0
[06:31] <JoseStefan> BHSPitLappy, Scout Rocks can help save lives! :D
[06:32] <vaportrace> any xine gurus out there twiddlen with the MS, Qtime & Real codecs?
[06:32] <bohemian> there are about 10 different how tos on how to get that particular card working in different environs
[06:32] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   lspci  and see if it is there
[06:32] <Lilandra> how do i reconfigure X?
[06:32] <CorpseFeeder> 0000:02:04.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0302
[06:33] <bohemian> that's it!
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder> iwconfig outputs...
[06:33] <shawnr_> Anyone know of a tutorial to get ebay's Turbo Lister working under wine ?
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder> ra0       RT61 Wireless  ESSID:""
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder>           Mode:Auto  Frequency:11 MHz  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder>           Link Quality=0/100  Signal level:-121 dBm  Noise level:-111 dBm
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:33] <CorpseFeeder>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:33] <NickGarvey> !paste > CorpseFeeder
[06:34] <bohemian> indeed
[06:34] <bohemian> what does ifconfig show  (Iuse the pastebin)
[06:34] <bohemian> actually CorpseFeeder   join #sajdhf
[06:34] <bohemian> that will be easier
[06:36] <vaportrace> Xine codecs anyone? Got the MPlayer-w32codecs-1.0rc1-svn19294.i586.rpm working for totem in firefox but can't get GXine working with it. Any ideas?
[06:36] <l33t_n00b>  i have an app installed but when i click it, nothing happens...so i just ran it in Konsole and it opened but it doesn't respond....anyone know why?
[06:38] <sethk> l33t_n00b, not enough information.  you can attach to it with strace and see what it is doing
[06:38] <etzerd> Hello all
[06:38] <etzerd> ?
[06:39] <l33t_n00b> sethk: so i type in konsole...  sudo wifi-radar | strace ?
[06:39] <etzerd> There is a new Kernel 2.6.17, can I upgrade to that Kernel since my is 2.6.15?
[06:39] <Gevaudan82> how does one set their path, or specifically append to their path in ubuntu...i'm coming from centos where we use /etc/profile.d...what's the equivilant to append to the path affecting all users in ubuntu?
[06:39] <JoseStefan> where is this new kernel?
[06:40] <etzerd> September 8, 2006
[06:40] <etzerd> meaning yesterday
[06:40] <etzerd> If you Google it you will see it
[06:41] <sethk> Gevaudan82, /etc/profile
[06:41] <sethk> Gevaudan82, best not to change that, however
[06:41] <etzerd> My question is, can I upgrade to the new Kernel? If yes what is the command to do so since I'm new to linux.
[06:41] <Asc> 2538
[06:42] <sethk> Gevaudan82, there is also a skel directory used by useradd to construct .bashrc
[06:42] <Gevaudan82> sethk: all i see is a for loop...i'm used to doing something like xport PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[06:42] <sethk> Gevaudan82, you can't rely on /etc/profile being sed
[06:42] <JoseStefan> etzerd, ubuntu 6.06 will always use the 2.6.15 branch
[06:42] <JoseStefan> etzerd, ubuntu 6.10 will have the 2.7.x
[06:42] <sethk> Gevaudan82, use zsh, it has a feature where dups are eliminated from PATH
[06:42] <ApesMa> Has anyone printed a CD w/an Epson Photo Stylus R220? I'm trying (using glabels), following Epson instructions on positioning the CD, but it just sptis the CD out and blinks at me.
[06:43] <etzerd> When is Ubuntu 6.10 will be release if you know?
[06:43] <l33t_n00b> sethk: ok i ran strace
[06:43] <JoseStefan> etzerd, you can only install 'that' kernel manually, aka compile it yourself
[06:43] <ApesMa> etzerd: End of October, I think.
[06:43] <sethk> Gevaudan82, the fact that the file happens to contain a for loop doesn't imply that you can't add an export statement to it
[06:43] <JoseStefan> etzerd, 2006 month 10
[06:43] <sethk> l33t_n00b, and?
[06:43] <eyequeue> etzerd, end of october
[06:43] <littlekiss> hi people
[06:43] <Gevaudan82> bashrc is just for one user though...hmm...i'll look into zsh but at this point i probally better stick to bash as it's what i know and i do some shell scripting for work
[06:43] <etzerd> Great
[06:44] <sethk> Gevaudan82, look at zsh, it is a superset of ksh, like bash, but with much better ksh compatibility
[06:44] <etzerd> Is there a beta for it out there?
[06:44] <Gevaudan82> sethk, thanks again :)
[06:44] <JoseStefan> !tell etzerd about edgy
[06:44] <sethk> Gevaudan82, the scripts will work unchanged in zsh, and it has some great features.   when you have time, look it over
[06:46] <horrork> Specifically what program would you download to play dvd movies, As i can play only the movies that were previously loaded on my linux ?
[06:46] <Nullifi3d> lo
[06:46] <Nullifi3d> need help with a couple things
[06:47] <horrork> eno huh?
[06:47] <l33t_n00b> sethk: im seeing alot of errors relating to no such file or directory
[06:48] <shawnr_> Anyone know of a tutorial to get ebay's Turbo Lister working under wine ?
[06:48] <horrork> Purely just for the purpose of playing DVD movies
[06:48] <Phoul> Is there a way to fix a stuck pixel
[06:48] <Phoul> ?
[06:49] <l33t_n00b> phoul: i heard to take a magnet to the stuck pixel and carefully try to revert it
[06:49] <Phoul> ...
[06:49] <Phoul> lmao
[06:49] <Phoul> Yeah sure
[06:49] <horrork> Can someone give me a tip on what program, best for DVD movies!!!!!
[06:50] <l33t_n00b> Phoul: im serious...i read it in maximumPC
[06:50] <Gevaudan82> sethk: out of curiosity, would i be better off creating a symlink to /usr/bin and running the respective script i'm trying to set to path from there...i can't think of a difference but maybe i'm overlooking something?
[06:50] <iLikeSpoons> horrork, what do you mean? It depends on what you like. totem and mplayer are both fine, though I prefer mplayer
[06:51] <Jobberwacky> totem-xine for dvd
[06:51] <sethk> Gevaudan82, I don't see a difference either
[06:51] <horrork> I guess im talking to myself, WELL  i will check it out as i may already have a few programs that run DVD!
[06:52] <sethk> Gevaudan82, a hard link would be better, if both are on the same physical file system
[06:52] <sethk> Gevaudan82, soft links can become dead.  if /usr/bin/xyz   points to /w/xyz, and you delete /w/xyz, /usr/bin/xyz stops working
[06:52] <Gevaudan82> sethk: i guess i spoke too soon...the script requires an ini file be in the same directory
[06:52] <sethk> Gevaudan82, that can't happen with a hard link
[06:52] <sethk> Gevaudan82, ah, ok.
[06:53] <sethk> Gevaudan82, you could link the ini file to, but that's a can of worms you don't want to open.  :)
[06:53] <wabbit> Can I make compiz related queries here or is there a specifc channel for that??
[06:53] <sethk> s/to/too/
[06:53] <eyequeue> compiz > wabbit
[06:53] <wabbit> I've depleted the google resource :-(
[06:53] <sethk> wascally, you can ask here
[06:53] <wabbit> oh great
[06:53] <xHitSx> como
[06:53] <xHitSx> entra
[06:53] <wabbit> I followed all the instructions for compiz setup
[06:53] <xHitSx> no
[06:53] <xHitSx> forum
[06:54] <xHitSx> brasileiro
[06:54] <wabbit> but the title bar is not displayed
[06:54] <Nullifi3d> wtf is the default root password
[06:54] <sethk> !br
[06:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:54] <wabbit> and none of the shortcuts work
[06:54] <xHitSx> ?Q
[06:54] <sethk> Nullifi3d, with the default install options, it isn't set.  you can set it with sudo passwd.  some people advocate using sudo instead of su
[06:54] <xHitSx> alguem me explica?
[06:54] <genoobie> anyone here use xubuntu or thin client stuff?
[06:54] <Gevaudan82> Nullifi3d: your sudo password is the same as the username you set...if you want root type sudo passwd root
[06:55] <DigitalNinja> what is the package that installs all the dev tools like gcc?
[06:55] <sethk> Gevaudan82, by using sudo, the effective user id is root, and so sudo passwd is the same as sudo passwd root
[06:55] <squee> build-essential
[06:55] <wabbit> I also says that gconf is missing. Am I missing out something
[06:55] <DigitalNinja> clear
[06:55] <DigitalNinja> thanks squee
[06:55] <Gevaudan82> honestly sometimes it's just easier to do stuff as root rather than to type sudo for every little thing...i don't look into gnome as root but for command line stuff it can be useful imho
[06:55] <squee> Is ther an equivilant of checkgmail for pop3 accounts?
[06:55] <squee> np ninja
[06:56] <sethk> Gevaudan82, yes, plus I believe that the ubuntu sudo configuration is actually less safe than a more conventional setup.
[06:56] <Nullifi3d> ok next question... which driver should i get for this go x1600
[06:56] <sethk> Gevaudan82, but sudo is  a religious belief
[06:56] <genoobie> okay...here's what I'd like to do...
[06:56] <genoobie> I have a bunch of machines that are pretty old
[06:56] <l33t_n00b> !SUDO
[06:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:57] <genoobie> I'd like to do one of two things
[06:57] <sethk> as if sudo weren't 35 years old
[06:57] <genoobie> they're mostly PII/64 & 128
[06:58] <wabbit> I'm no sys admin and would really like to have someone help me with the last steps of compiz setup
[06:58] <squee> are there any programs that it in the notification area to notify of pop3 emails?
[06:58] <genoobie> okay...anyone use ubuntu server?
[06:58] <wabbit> I use the dapper dist
[06:58] <squee> wabbit: where are you at?
[06:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok
[06:58] <wabbit> bangalore
[06:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> apparently my thing sees something
[06:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ...
[06:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok let me rphrase
[06:58] <squee> wabbit: er, i meant in setting up compiz
[06:58] <genoobie> I guess that's a no...
[06:59] <ISOLATEDViRuS> apparently ubuntu has detected the drive i tried to mount, and when i try to mount it says only root can.
[06:59] <ISOLATEDViRuS> what is the command to mount the drive?
[06:59] <wabbit> when I execute the toggle display
[06:59] <wabbit> the title bar disappears
[06:59] <wabbit> I mean toggle compiz
[06:59] <Gevaudan82> only root can mount...create a directory and type mount /dev/thedevicename /mnt/mycreateddir
[07:00] <squee> wabit: what video card?  What repos are you using? XGL or AIGLX?
[07:00] <wabbit> and none of the shortcuts work
[07:00] <wabbit> Nvidia Geforce Go 7400
[07:00] <wabbit> XGL
[07:01] <ISOLATEDViRuS> so for example, sudo mount //dgnr/mountage /media/usbdisk  ?
[07:01] <wabbit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl these were the instructions I followed
[07:01] <sethk> Gevaudan82, you need options, unless the mount point is in /etc/fstab.  if it is in /etc/fstab, you only need one of the mount point or the device
[07:01] <wabbit> This is what ps -efa shows for XglXgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:fbo -accel glx:pbuffer
[07:02] <squee> wabit: hmm, i'm probably not much help then, I only have experience with setting up ATI...
[07:02] <squee> wabit: did you have direct rendering before you went into xgl?  (or can you still log into a normal x session and check?
[07:02] <etzerd> JoseStefan is it safe to install Edgy now.
[07:02] <wabbit> thanks squee
[07:02] <JoseStefan> etzerd, 'safe' is a big word
[07:02] <squee> etzert: i'm not jose, but no.
[07:03] <squee> wabit: not a problem but i didn't do much.  Check around compiz.net
[07:03] <sethk> JoseStefan, it's safe to install it, as long as you don't run it.  :)
[07:03] <Nullifi3d> drivers for go x1600?
[07:04] <JoseStefan> sethk, i dont know
[07:04] <wabbit> squee: I have my windows using nieces with whom I wanted to showoff compiz. Hope I manage to get it to work. bye
[07:05] <sethk> JoseStefan, hard to prove, I'll admit  ...
[07:07] <genoobie> okay....here's my scenario,
[07:07] <sethk> wabbit, neices, not nieces
[07:07] <genoobie> I'd like to setup about 40 older PC's as internet cruising machines + simple word processing
[07:07] <genoobie> I have two options, 1) netboot
[07:08] <genoobie> and setup an ubuntu server
[07:08] <genoobie> or 2) install some distro on the PC's
[07:08] <Nullifi3d> :P
[07:08] <Nullifi3d> anyone willing to help me out with video drivers>
[07:08] <BHSPitLappy> sethk, ?
[07:08] <genoobie> but they're PII's with 64 - 128MB ram
[07:09] <sl021> er.. i need help with connecting ubuntu with a wireless network
[07:09] <genoobie> 6GB HDD's that are probably pushin' five years
[07:09] <genoobie> sl021, ndiswrapper
[07:09] <sl021> ?
[07:09] <thedash> can Ubuntu's archive manager read .daa files?
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> sethk, did you just counter-correct someone's spelling? :P
[07:09] <genoobie> is there an ubuntu server channel?
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> sl021, it would really benefit you if you could get a wired connection on that computer temporatily.
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> and temporarily.
[07:10] <LDS_Trooper> how do I use "Remote Desktop" ?
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> can you do that?
[07:10] <sl021> hm, ok
[07:10] <sl021> well, i would have to disconnect this one, but w/e
[07:11] <squee_> does anyone know of a good program that checks pop email acounts?  I dont want a full fledged program like evolution but something like checkgmail or gmailnotifier
[07:11] <LDS_Trooper> Remote Desktop gave me a command for the other person to enter...
[07:11] <LDS_Trooper> but where do they enter it?
[07:12] <jake1> what library do i need to play .wma?
[07:12] <jake1> in xmms
[07:13] <squee_> jakel: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28XMMS.29
[07:13] <sinisterr> host[Jasper3]  | os[Linux 2.6.15-23-386 - Debian testing/unstable - Ubuntu DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com )]  | up[ 2 hours, 27 minutes]  | cpu[Pentium III (Coppermine), 497.695 MHz (995.74 bogomips)]  | batt[charged, 100%]  | chipset[Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)]  | cache[ 256 KB]  | mem[ 246.94/250.24 MB (98.7% [|||||||
[07:13] <sinisterr> |||] )]  | users[ 1]  | load[ 0.31]  | procs[ 79]  | swap[ 75.44/501.99 MB (15.0% [||--------] )]  | disk[ 2161.73/10832.68 MB (20.0% [||--------] ) (IBM-DARA-212000)]  | video[ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) at 1024x768 (24 bits)]  | opengl[Mesa GLX Indirect powered by Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org with driver 1.2 (1.5 Me
[07:13] <sinisterr> sa 6.4.1)]  | sound[ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10)]  |  | xchat[Version: 2.6.1]  |  | eth0[in: 201.99 MB, out: 8.60 MB]  | [sysinfo-dg 1.1-DocTrax_1.46] 
[07:14] <Shadowpillar> jesus, get a better sysinfo script
[07:14] <sinisterr> lol
[07:14] <horrork> Totem plus Mplayer are worth a go, Cheers, Linux does rock!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:15] <BHSPitLappy> it does?? stop the presses!!
[07:16] <genoobie> any ltsp gurus?
[07:16] <brian98> i definitely found a bug
[07:16] <genoobie> or what channel should I check...
[07:16] <brian98> is there a channel?
[07:16] <hondje> hi, genoobie :D
[07:17] <genoobie> holy macaroni!
[07:17] <brian98> If you have a rdp connection open to a windows box and a 3d screensaver kicks in 1 in 5 times x will hang
[07:17] <hondje> hehehe :-)
[07:17] <brian98> but you can still use the rdp session
[07:17] <genoobie> what's up
[07:17] <hondje> Not too much, less than hacking at LTSP problems :)
[07:17] <horrork> I really mean highly usseful technology, that seems to be a good learning curve for all Linux users out there, So i really am not a computer wizz, but i want to get more out of my linux, learn more, explore more and just usse it as best as possible!!!!!!!!
[07:18] <genoobie> I'm trying to mooch off of some ltsp know-how
[07:18] <genoobie> hondje you know?
[07:18] <genoobie> I'm looking at a how-to
[07:18] <genoobie> but I'm not really concerned about how at this point
[07:18] <hondje> No, never played with it, though I did meet some of the devs at the last comdex. Nice guys, very enthusiastic
[07:18] <genoobie> I'm just trying to see what kind of machine would work as a server...
[07:19] <horrork> See ya, linux freaks (LOL) just kidding8-)
[07:19] <genoobie> about 40 machines max...
[07:19] <genoobie> mostly internet cruising, and simple word processing, but without HDD's
[07:19] <genoobie> so a thin client via net boot or USB boot
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: anything with 2.4 Ghz or better processor, and 1 GB or better ram, with a fast hdd if you will be running thin clients.
[07:20] <hondje> probably wouldn't need anytning too beefy for that
[07:20] <dfamorato_> genoobie: i dont  remember where i learned this.. but it is recomended tha u use 20 mb of ram at least for each of the remote terminals + 256 for the server
[07:20] <genoobie> okay....so
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> so as I said, 1GB ram or better :)
[07:20] <genoobie> 1GB ram (at least), and some type of fast HDD
[07:20] <dfamorato_> shure u did
[07:21] <dfamorato_> sata at least
[07:21] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, u sure re: proc speed
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> get atleast two network cards.
[07:21] <genoobie> oaky
[07:21] <dfamorato_> gigabit if possible
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: yeah, you are not going to be doing a lot of host processing.
[07:21] <jake1> how can i play .wma files?
[07:21] <genoobie> umm...
[07:21] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, why not?
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> only get gigabit if you have a gigabit switch with clients having gigabit network cards, otherwise, its a waste.
[07:21] <dfamorato_> cause u said so
[07:22] <genoobie> clients = 100MB
[07:22] <genoobie> well
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: because you'll be setting up thin clients, and thin clients do the processing on themselves, not the host.
[07:22] <genoobie> the clients look mostly like this...
[07:22] <dfamorato_> fyrestrtr: its about 20 buck more
[07:22] <genoobie> PII, 64-128MB ram
[07:22] <fyrestrtr> jake1: install w32codecs from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> dfamorato_: that really isn't the point. You could take that $20 and spend it somewhere else, like getting a decent controller for your disks, or a high quality case.
[07:23] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, What needs to be installed on the clients?
[07:23] <genoobie> if anything that is
[07:23] <vicscandl> !sata > vicscandl
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> if netboot, then nothing...
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> assuming the nic's in the thin clients are capable
[07:23] <vicscandl> hrm
[07:24] <genoobie> I guess I'm a little unclear, if netboot is OK
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: a PXE enabled network card, the ability to boot from said card, processor, and ram. hdd can be there, but its really not required.
[07:24] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, about how much ram on the client side
[07:24] <genoobie> (xubuntu)
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: whatever minimum is required for the environment. I'd say between 128-256
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> nothing less than 128.
[07:25] <genoobie> with some simple browser, and word processor
[07:25] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, really?
[07:25] <genoobie> even xfce?
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> you are not setting up 'dumb' terminals, but rather thin clients, and they will need some kind of memory.
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: yes, even xfce.
[07:25] <genoobie> urmph...
[07:25] <hondje> Yeah, you don't want to do less than 128 unless you're going to really strip shit down
[07:26] <genoobie> hondje, xfce, dillo (maybe), and some wp
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> if you go will less ram, your users will start complaining ... about 20 minutes into their session.
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: if by wp you mean either Abiword or OO, you'll DEFINATELY need some client RAM.
[07:26] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, no way on OO or abiword...
[07:27] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, maybe something like glorified emacs
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> what else do you plan to run?
[07:27] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, that's it
[07:27] <Jobber_wacky> abiword is fine on 256
[07:27] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: emacs? that's it?>
[07:28] <genoobie> no, lightweight browser, lightweight wm and light wp
[07:28] <genoobie> maybe even lighter than xfce
[07:28] <genoobie> twm?
[07:28] <CheekyBoinc> fluxbuntu :o)
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> so lets say you go with fluxbox (that's really lightweight) and emacs or gvim for your wp, and ... dillo.
[07:29] <genoobie> alright...sounds good
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> I think for a better experience, get firefox.
[07:29] <BHSPitLappy> who's the target user here?
[07:29] <genoobie> oaky...
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> a lot more people are familiar with it, than dillo.
[07:29] <Jobber_wacky> try swiftfox
[07:29] <genoobie> say firefox
[07:29] <BHSPitLappy> fyrestrtr, firefox is the OPPOSITE of lightweight.
[07:29] <genoobie> swiftfox
[07:29] <hondje> firefox is a bloated pig
[07:29] <genoobie> :)
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitLappy: I know that.
[07:29] <genoobie> true
[07:29] <BHSPitLappy> swiftfox might be a good option.
[07:30] <hondje> swiftfox is a skinny pig
[07:30] <genoobie> okay, these are high school kids
[07:30] <Jobber_wacky> if you want seriously light browser, go with elinks :)
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> but you have to think of the users; memory isn't expensive.
[07:30] <genoobie> well, true
[07:30] <b00m> what's the best keylogger out?
[07:30] <Jobber_wacky> but I doubt any windows user would tolerate elinks
[07:30] <mactenchi> anyone here an ntp expert?
[07:30] <genoobie> but, for the time being, just to get things up and running
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> no one is going to give two hoots that you saved $15 on RAM if everyone is complaining that they can't use the browser to go visit youtube :P
[07:31] <genoobie> we're not talking sophisticated users
[07:31] <genoobie> youtube is blocked
[07:31] <genoobie> :)
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> I'd say you'll be a getting a lot of 'proxy' attempts on that network :P
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> especially if you said its high school kids.
[07:31] <CheekyBoinc> Galeon or Epiphany are also nice "Gecko Engine" Browser
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> they are the most sophisticated users you'll meet.
[07:31] <genoobie> I'm just talking about internet cruising machines for a little bit of research
[07:32] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, yes well perhaps in some high schools...:)
[07:32] <genoobie> urban high schools....not likely
[07:32] <genoobie> okay...
[07:33] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, suppose  we go light
[07:33] <genoobie> swiftfox, fluxobx
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: I say get the RAM, and install firefox/swiftfox -- heck, get either of those, with an IE skin. Install a good Host IDS on your server, along with squid, shorewall, vpn and local dns services.
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> well, maybe not a vpn.
[07:33] <genoobie> not necess...
[07:33] <CorpseFeeder> when I type " sudo /sbin/insmod rt61.ko" I get "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists". What does "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" and why am I getting an error?
[07:34] <genoobie> umm...okay, but fyrestrtr remember 40 machines, $15 ram x 40 = $600
[07:34] <Jobber_wacky> kazehakaze is a light mozilla based browser
[07:34] <CorpseFeeder>  What does "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" DO? and why am I getting an error?
[07:34] <hondje> CorpseFeeder: insmod loads a module
[07:34] <bohemian> it is already loaded
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: good thing for you is, most machines will come with the minimum ram necessary. I don't think anyone sells any machine with less than 256 RAM.
[07:34] <genoobie> so fyrestrtr do you think 64 is ok with flux and swiftfox
[07:34] <BHSPitLappy> Jobber_wacky, what a ridiculous name
[07:35] <genoobie> no fyrestrtr I'm trying to use my legacy equipment
[07:35] <genoobie> I've got 40 machines
[07:35] <Jobber_wacky> BHSPitLappy, it's a foreign name I guess
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: hrmm, it could work with 64, but I would seriously consider atleast 128.
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> I once did what you are doing with 96 MB, and it was just usable.
[07:35] <genoobie> okay...I might be able to scare up some ram
[07:35] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. if it's already loaded, I can skip that part of the installation is that right?
[07:35] <hondje> Use epiphany...it works just as well, and it's way lighter
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: man, ram is easy to come by, TRUST me ;)
[07:35] <genoobie> epiphany?
[07:36] <genoobie> I might be able to get a hold of 64MB sticks in the district
[07:36] <Jobber_wacky> my bad, it's "kazehakase"
[07:36] <BHSPitLappy> isn't epiphany a mail client
[07:36] <BHSPitLappy> oh
[07:36] <BHSPitLappy> evolution
[07:36] <BHSPitLappy> lol
 back again, umm howcome on synaptic manager then i go to settings repositories then go add the univers and mulitverse are unitcked when i ticked the other day and hit ok and reload now its unticked...
[07:36] <hondje> no, you're probably thinking of evolution
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitLappy: errm, no.
[07:36] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,    remove it before you start
[07:36] <BHSPitLappy> I corrected myself, hush
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> mt_holden_ss: probably the repo servers are down.
[07:36] <genoobie> I don't know if I'll be able to convince the district to spend the money on the server
[07:36] <CorpseFeeder> bohemian, how would I remove this?
[07:37] <bohemian> modprove -r rt61.ko
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: why don't you get a local business to sponsor it?
[07:37] <mactenchi> ntp?  anybody?
[07:37] <mt_holden_ss> fyrestrtr i tick it now and hit ok close it , re open and they are unticked..
[07:37] <champ`measure> Hello peeps. I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to install Video Drivers from the internet. Tells me to type "sh Nvidia-blah blah-pkg2.run".....now where the heck am I suppose to type that?
[07:37] <genoobie> hmm...I might be able to...but the local businesses in buffalo are all tapped
[07:38] <michael> in the shell
[07:38] <mt_holden_ss> terminal
[07:38] <michael> yes that
[07:38] <CorpseFeeder> bohemian: bash: modprove: command not found
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> champ`measure: at a console. Hit alt+f2, type gnome-terminal, hit enter, then type the command there.
[07:38] <genoobie> tied
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> CorpseFeeder: its modprobe
[07:38] <bohemian> sorry modprobe
[07:38] <bohemian> my typo
[07:38] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, I would, but local businesses in buffalo are pretty tapped
[07:38] <CorpseFeeder> haha , I see :)
[07:38] <mt_holden_ss> so fyrestrtr what u think is the prob?
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: hrmm.
[07:38] <genoobie> besides, the district has money, it's just tied up in bureaucratic bs
[07:39] <knapper> Can someone recommend a good id3 tag editor?
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> mt_holden_ss: first, when you tick them and hit OK, are you hitting Refresh?
[07:39] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: is there a 64bit ubuntu chatroom?
[07:39] <brendonjt> does anyone here know about wine and can help me out?
[07:39] <CorpseFeeder> bohemian: ermm would you believe "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found."
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> vicscandl: you are in it :)
[07:39] <mt_holden_ss> fyrestrtr yes i am
[07:39] <genoobie> umm...btw if anyone from the Buffalo Board of Ed is here....just kidding about the bureaucracy...:)
[07:39] <vicscandl> one and the same eh?
[07:39] <bohemian> perhaps
[07:40] <genoobie> well fyrestrtr thanks for the info...
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> mt_holden_ss: then its probably that your repo mirror is down :(
[07:40] <bohemian> did you depmod -a earlier?
[07:40] <michael> latter
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: no problem. There are also programs you can install on your server that will give you ghosting features.
[07:40] <mt_holden_ss> how can i fix that, it reloads the packages but its just not ticked when i go back to it tahts my prob
[07:40] <genoobie> ??
[07:40] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: know of any issues with trying to install the 64 version with a SATA primary?
[07:40] <genoobie> to where?
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: incase you do what I did, wipe the machines every two weeks :)
[07:40] <genoobie> oh...gotcha
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> vicscandl: not that I am aware of. Is it e-sata?
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> or SATA II or whatever its called, the new one?
[07:41] <genoobie> so fyrestrtr you think 20MB per PC + 256 for the server, sata (at minimum) and 2.4 GHz, processor...
[07:41] <genoobie> hmm...okay...
[07:41] <vicscandl> fyrestrtr: hrm, not sure, live boot is up, lemme check
[07:41] <CorpseFeeder> not this session, but yesterday I think I depmodded something...
[07:41] <genoobie> take 10 of the 40, turn it into a BEOS cluster
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: 20MB what? RAM?
[07:41] <genoobie> :)
[07:42] <mt_holden_ss> fyrestrtr i dunno...
[07:42] <genoobie> yeah...
[07:42] <mt_holden_ss> it reloads teh packages
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: ermm, no that most definately will not work. You need at a minimum, 64 RAM.
[07:42] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, no, in the server, 20MB per pc
[07:42] <champ`measure> vicscandl, it came up with the error: no such file or directory
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> oh oh, I misunderstood you.
[07:43] <champ`measure> even though its right on the desktop
[07:43] <vicscandl> champ`measure: failed to create a file system
[07:43] <genoobie> :)
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: it could work, but .. try to see if you can get closer to 768 or 1GB on the server.
[07:43] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, what was your setup barely workable at 96
[07:43] <champ`measure> how do I create file system?
[07:43] <CorpseFeeder> The instructions I am following (trying to follow) right now do not mention having to use the depmod command at any point.
[07:43] <fyrestrtr> the more you can squeeze into the server, the better off you'll be.
[07:43] <genoobie> of course...
 mkfs
[07:44] <genoobie> so, the setup
[07:45] <genoobie> flux, swiftfox and what would be a decent wp
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: 10 clients, 96 MB RAM each, fluxbox + vim + firefox (swiftfox wasn't around back then). One 14 port switch 10/100 -- server had 768 RAM, 60 GB HDD ATA (SATA wasn't economical back then).
[07:45] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, where was your bottleneck
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> freakin firefox.
[07:45] <genoobie> client or server
[07:45] <genoobie> right...I may not even need a wp
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> the server was fine, never got any server loads on it. It ran DNS, Apache, MySQL.
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> and FTP services.
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> the longest lag was during reboots.
[07:46] <genoobie> this would even be running that heavy a load
[07:46] <genoobie> no web
[07:46] <genoobie> no mysql
[07:46] <genoobie> no ftp
[07:46] <genoobie> maybe ftp
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> yeah but 40 clients ;)
[07:46] <genoobie> okay...
[07:47] <genoobie> true...
[07:47] <genoobie> let me write my colleague, tell him re: server specs, and maybe something might happen
[07:47] <CorpseFeeder> i can't get past the part in these instructions "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" because it just responds with "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" and "modprobe -r rt61.ko" just repsonds "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found"
[07:47] <genoobie> in the meantime, I'll set them up as standalone
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> mind you, my setup never had more than 3 people on it at any given time. If you have 40 clients, but only 5 are ever used concurrently, you are okay with lower specs. But if you have 40 and 25 are being used concurrently, you need better specs.
[07:47] <genoobie> vs thin client
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> genoobie: also research virtual machines.
[07:48] <genoobie> I'll try a few live CD's to see who's got decent HW support for 1998 vintage pc's...
[07:48] <genoobie> eh?
[07:48] <genoobie> virtual machines?
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> yeah.
[07:48] <genoobie> what's the gist...will google in a min
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> get a beefy server, then all you need on a the client, is a remote X session to your server that's got a VM loaded.
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> you don't even need a local hard disk :P
[07:49] <genoobie> hmm...
[07:49] <hondje> wouldn't you have to shell out some cash to EMC though?
[07:50] <hondje> or whoever owns vmware these days
[07:50] <genoobie> emc?
[07:50] <fyrestrtr> hondje: EMC?
[07:50] <CorpseFeeder> what does "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found" mean?
[07:51] <genoobie> don't x-servers need a fair amount of memory though....and that'd be one helluva server for about 25 to 40 clients
[07:51] <mtholdenss> whats best to have xgl as a session or always on?
[07:51] <genoobie> hondje, I went over some algebra with the kids today....
[07:51] <genoobie> wow...I've actually got a good bunch this year!
[07:52] <hondje> ah, that'll cause you a bit less stress this time around :)
[07:52] <CorpseFeeder> how do I get past this error?
[07:52] <elkbuntu> genoobie, hondje if this is just idle chatter take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:52] <hantoo> what would be the easiest way to make hibernate/suspend work on laptop? apt-get install acpi stuffs?
[07:52] <genoobie> we solved newton's univ grav law for r and I think I only lost one kid on the way...
[07:52] <genoobie> sorry...
[07:52] <CorpseFeeder> how do I get past the error "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists"
[07:52] <genoobie> fyrestrtr, again, thanks for all the tips
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> no problem, best of luck.
[07:53] <aum> hi - i'm using hibernate/suspend2, because the default hibernate button shipped with ubuntu doesn't work - how can i change the exit/hibernate button so it runs my own hibernate script?
[07:54] <mobuntu> any good utils for monitoring servers for ubuntu
[07:55] <vicscandl> champ`measure: fyi, starting in safe video mode seems to have 'fixed' the problem i was having.
[07:56] <CorpseFeeder> help I am stuck! how do I uninstall a non-existent module so I don't keep getting "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists"?
[07:56] <knapper> Can someone recommend a good id3 tag editor?
[07:59] <sl021> er, now what about nisdwrapper?
[08:00] <CorpseFeeder> Why am I getting both "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" AND "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found." Has my computer shat itself? Is the OS buggered? Do I need to re-install the whole Ubuntu OS?
[08:00] <champ`measure> Hello peeps. I'm new to linux, and I'm trying to install Video Drivers from the internet. Tells me to type "sh Nvidia-blah blah-pkg2.run".....I get an Error "No such File or Directory"
[08:01] <mtholdenss> anyone here got gnome 2.14
[08:02] <CheekyBoinc> cd with the Terminal to the directory where you Download Nvidia-blah blah-pkg2.run , then type sh foo.blah-blah.run
[08:02] <mtholdenss> 2.16 i mean
[08:03] <brendonjt> hey there  is there any wine experts here
[08:03] <CorpseFeeder> can anyone tell me why I am getting both "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" AND "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found." How can it both exist and not be found?
[08:03] <CheekyBoinc> Wine Experts are here -> #winehq :)
[08:04] <knapper> Where can I get the Book Antiqua font?
[08:04] <BHSPitLappy> actually, they're in #winehacking
[08:04] <BHSPitLappy> but they don't like it when you ask normal questions in there :)
[08:04] <brendonjt> yip  i know  me in there now
[08:04] <champ`measure> CheekyBoinc: cd?
[08:05] <CheekyBoinc> cd = Change directory. A Shell Command
[08:05] <squarepusher> Natalie Portman is hot
[08:05] <CheekyBoinc> :D
[08:05] <sl021> lol
[08:05] <champ`measure> Thanks
[08:05] <champ`measure> that helps i think
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> CorpseFeeder: what are you trying to do?
[08:06] <vicscandl> hfs! ubuntu64 just owned me.
[08:06] <dfamorato_> lol
[08:06] <CheekyBoinc> :)
[08:06] <CorpseFeeder> why isn't there a shell command fesiw? (fix everything so it works)
[08:06] <squarepusher> I just switched to ubuntu from gentoo
[08:07] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder try rm -Rf /
[08:07] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: its called `sudo rm -rf /`
[08:07] <squarepusher> viscandl: hehe
[08:07] <knapper> Natalie Portman is my forum avatar :D
[08:07] <dfamorato_> squarepusher: tired of compiling everything ?
[08:08] <CorpseFeeder> what does rm -rf / do?
[08:08] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: try it and find out.
[08:08] <hantoo> i switched from gentoo to ubuntu too
[08:08] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: Experience is the best teacher!
[08:08] <hantoo> recently :)
[08:08] <squarepusher> dfamorato_: how'd you know?
[08:09] <vicscandl> video card benchmark software?
[08:09] <CorpseFeeder> it makes my screen scroll up for ages....
[08:09] <squarepusher> hantoo: I did yesterday, and it really did pain me... but it was killing my hardware. I have used binary distros in the past and not been satisfied.
[08:09] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: oh shit, I hope you didn't really do that!
[08:09] <CorpseFeeder> why?
[08:10] <CheekyBoinc> omg !
[08:10] <squarepusher> vicscandl: you can tell him
[08:10] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: Experience is the best teacher!
[08:10] <squarepusher> muahahahaha
[08:10] <squarepusher> HAHAHAHAHA
[08:10] <CorpseFeeder> the screen is still scrolling....
[08:10] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: (ie: you just wiped your os)
[08:10] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: press CTRL+c
[08:10] <CheekyBoinc> strg + alt + entf will fix that CorpseFeeder
[08:10] <vicscandl> os != ass
[08:10] <CheekyBoinc> strg + alt + del
[08:11] <hantoo> hah
[08:11] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE that will repair the filesystem.
[08:11] <CheekyBoinc> ^^
[08:11] <CorpseFeeder> it stopped. I don't thikn it could do anything. it just said "rm: cannot remove `//usr/share/doc/findutils/README': Permission denied" mostly
[08:12] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: good thing you did not sudo that one.. ;)
[08:12] <squarepusher> hantoo: why did you make the switch?
[08:14] <CorpseFeeder> so, can anyone tell me why I am getting both "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists" AND "FATAL: Module rt61.ko not found."
[08:14] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:14] <b0ysc0ut> what up.  audio from flash player is spotty -- is there something I'm missing?
[08:14] <CorpseFeeder> I am trying to follow the instructions to install this wireless card
[08:14] <squarepusher> b0ysc0ut: define "spotty"
[08:15] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: what card?
[08:15] <torpedo|dog> b0ysc0ut: just FYI, you're not alone.
[08:15] <CorpseFeeder> but it wants me to type "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" and I can't it won't let me
[08:15] <b0ysc0ut> just played a CD with sound juicer, and am trying to listen to some videos on youtube, but there's no audio
[08:15] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: define 'won't let me'
[08:15] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   did you depmod -a  ?
[08:16] <CorpseFeeder> it's a D-Link DWL-G510 if that means anything to you.
[08:16] <bohemian> it's a POS is what it is
[08:16] <dfamorato_> squarepusher: compiling is fun.. but not for every single detail on our system..
[08:16] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: did you try to see if ubuntu would auto-recognize it from setup?
[08:16] <CorpseFeeder> it won't let me because it just says "insmod: error inserting 'rt61.ko': -1 File exists"
[08:16] <squarepusher> b0ysc0ut: I have the same problem with youtube. I think it may be that their player is using some weird proprietary flash stuff. Didn't work in gentoo for me, either.
[08:16] <CorpseFeeder> ubuntu won't auto recognize it
[08:17] <dfamorato_> squarepusher: sometimes. we just wanna click on something and this click should be enough !
[08:17] <squarepusher> dfamorato_: Right, and I'm not done compiling by any means. Couldn't find a working deb for cmus
[08:17] <b0ysc0ut> squarepusher: besides switching to that 'other' crappy OS to listen to this, have you found a way around it?
[08:17] <squarepusher> b0ysc0ut: video.google.com :)
[08:17] <b0ysc0ut> indeed :)
[08:18] <fiberchunks> b0ysc0ut is a wuss
[08:18] <fiberchunks> har har
[08:18] <squarepusher> dfamorato_: Agreed. But we'll see. One thing I didn't like about fedora back in the day was that updating a package (say apache) would overwrite httpd.conf without warning. etc-update is one thing I'll miss.
[08:19] <fiberchunks> in any event -- squarepusher does it seem to be an arts / alsa / oss thang, or you think (or can definitively state) that it's a flash player thing?
[08:19] <squarepusher> try $alsamixer. If you have a mixer, unmute it and play some mp3. If that works it's probably firefox.
[08:19] <CorpseFeeder> computer won't let me "/sbin/insmod rt61.ko" - says it already exists, but it also won't let me "modprobe -r rt61.ko" - says it doesn't exist. I don't understand
[08:19] <fiberchunks> hmmm, good idea
[08:20] <dfamorato_> squarepusher: indeed its a problem... but when u do MAKE .. MAKE INSTALL, would gentoo overwrite your work ?
[08:20] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: I think you want do do an $ lsmod|grep rt61. Is it listed? If not, I hink you want modprobe rt61, not modprobe rt61.ko.
[08:20] <squarepusher> dfamorato_: I don't follow.
[08:20] <mart> hi, i didnt unmount a flash drive propely and now although it detects it, i cannot view it
[08:21] <squarepusher> *think
[08:22] <CorpseFeeder> lsmod|grep rt61. responds with  "rt61                  258656  1"
[08:22] <dfamorato_> squarepusher: u said that fedora sometimes overwrite your confs when u update..... when u compiled anything on gentoo, wouldt it overwrite your work to ?
[08:22] <CorpseFeeder> so does it exist or what?
[08:23] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: that means your module is loaded (at some point you should do $ man grep and try to understand as much as you can).So what is your problem exactly?
[08:24] <squarepusher> dfamorato_: no it creates temporary files that you have to manually update by running either etc-update or dispatch-conf. They include incremental diffs, so you can see the changes side-by-side. A pretty enviable system, if you ask me. Makes apt-get seem like chopped liver.
[08:24] <squarepusher> But I am very impressed with adept so far.
[08:24] <CorpseFeeder> i am trying to install this RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0. drivers from the beginning again because last time I tried I couldn't get it to work.
[08:24] <Deeah> What is a good guide for doing aiglx with an ati 9100(works good with free(libre) OSS ati driver) on a edgy box?(X 7.1)
[08:24] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: what is RT61_Linux?
[08:25] <CorpseFeeder> that is the name of the driver file
[08:25] <dfamorato_> squarepusher: nice sh*t ... didnt know that.... diff files on apt would be nice !
[08:25] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: no shit! What is the driver for?
[08:25] <squarepusher> dfamorato_: no, that would be gentoo :)
[08:25] <CorpseFeeder> for a wireless network card
[08:25] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: which wireless network card...
[08:25] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: try to be as specific as possible if you want help.
[08:26] <CorpseFeeder> D-Link DWL-G510 Rev C with RT61 chipset
[08:26] <CorpseFeeder> a PCI card
[08:26] <dfamorato_> lol
[08:26] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: ndiswrapper -l
[08:27] <vicscandl> mmmmm ndiswrapper....
[08:27] <RancidLM> hey all has any one here got a working cvscedega running in ubuntu 6.06?
[08:27] <CorpseFeeder> ndiswrapper...
[08:28] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: you should read up on the forums. There are a buttload of posts about that exact card.
[08:28] <CorpseFeeder> ...
[08:28] <link_36p> How can i get openGL 1.3?
[08:28] <CreativePony> hiya
[08:28] <SV452> hay all
[08:28] <LinuxCart> hello. does cpufreqd works?
[08:28] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: And if you want to use Linux, you really ought to read this--> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[08:28] <LinuxCart> or should I use powernowd?
[08:28] <CorpseFeeder> yes, I've seen the posts on the forum. I think it was my trying to follow the instructions in those posts which has cocked up my system
[08:29] <CreativePony> I have a disk image in a file i'm trying to copy in to my hdb3 partition, using parted, the image is of a full disk not just a partition, so dd wont work for this
[08:29] <SV452> question - where can i look to disable startup stuff that have nothing to do with my system?
[08:29] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: probably. I don't use wireless, so I can help with module (un)loading but not with configuring your drivers and stuff. That's a little beyond the scope of my existence at the moment.
[08:30] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: it could also be the steady diet of decaying flesh that has cocked up your system.
[08:31] <CreativePony> i'm using the dapper install cd as a live cd to do it.. running parted /dev/hdb, i called cp /path/to/image.img 1 3, and it gave me an "Error: Incorrect magic values in the journal header." message
[08:31] <CreativePony> does anyone know what that means? :/
[08:31] <CorpseFeeder> well, could you tell me how to unload this module so I can start again from the beginnning?
[08:31] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   tried modprobe -r tr61
[08:31] <bohemian> without the .ko on the end
[08:31] <bohemian> rt61 even
[08:31] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[08:31] <squarepusher> try $apropos remove module
[08:33] <CorpseFeeder> modprobe command responds "FATAL: Module rt61 is in use." I will try apropos now...
[08:33] <squarepusher> Anyone know ChucK?
[08:33] <bohemian> ifdown ra0
[08:34] <CreativePony> the image contains a HFS+ partition.. just one partition
[08:34] <Deeah> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jmmN4J70.html
[08:35] <aum> hi - why does update-grub wipe out my own custom dual-boot entries from /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[08:35] <CorpseFeeder> ok, "apropos remove module" gave me a screen full of commands followed by a number in brackets then their definitions
[08:35] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: me too
[08:36] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: try man apropos. and did you read that link I sent you?
[08:36] <pip> Hello,my mplayer can not play .rmvb file ,why ?
[08:36] <CorpseFeeder> ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[08:36] <pip> I have just installed it
[08:37] <Healot> you need a Real Media codecs to do that...
[08:37] <Healot> !find realplayer
[08:37] <ubotu> Found: realplayer
[08:37] <pip> Healot, name please ?
[08:37] <CorpseFeeder> squarepusher: not yet, my browser seems to be broken
[08:37] <pip> You mean I should also install realplayer ?
[08:37] <CorpseFeeder> firefox won't launch for some reason
[08:37] <Healot> !info realplayer
[08:37] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:37] <Healot> !w32codecs
[08:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <LinuxCart> Anyone familiar here with laptops?
[08:38] <squarepusher> CorpseFeeder: I see a reinstallation in your future.
[08:38] <pip> but realplayer is not free software ,i dont want
[08:38] <LinuxCart> ..well maybe you could help me by telling me how to get more verbose messages when running a service
[08:38] <Healot> you know it isn't libre
[08:39] <Healot> and yet you need to watch you RealMedia files with it
[08:39] <squarepusher> !info apropos
[08:39] <ubotu> Package apropos does not exist in any distro I know
[08:39] <squarepusher> !man
[08:39] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:40] <Tom_Reinke> !video
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <aum> hi - using dapper - the 'hibernate' button didn't work, so i installed suspend2-enabled kernel and hibernate scripts - works well - now i want to change the desktop 'hibernate' button so it runs my hibernate script - is this possible?
[08:40] <Tom_Reinke> !codecs
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <squarepusher> !acpi
[08:40] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[08:41] <BadDolphin> Not meaning to butt in, but I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time (first linux install ever) and Firefox doesn't play vids.  The documentation says to install "totem gstreamer-firefox-plugin" from the Universe Repository.  But there's no such thing listed there.
[08:41] <CorpseFeeder> this computer is rooted and I'm getting nowhere
[08:41] <SV452> hmm
[08:41] <Tom_Reinke> BadDolphin, have you installed your video codecs?
[08:41] <squarepusher> !firefox
[08:41] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:42] <BadDolphin> No, I have not gotten to that yet.
[08:42] <Tom_Reinke> and I have a question - How do you install codecs with .wmv support
[08:42] <squarepusher> !firefox
[08:42] <SV452> mplayer?
[08:42] <Deeah> Does anyone know where the compiz.info gpg key is, so I don't get gpg warnings from apt-get
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> Deeah: #xgl
[08:42] <squarepusher> anyone using keychain || gpg-agent?
[08:42] <BHSPitLappy> Tom_Reinke, w32codecs I think is what it's called
[08:43] <pip> Healot, thanks
[08:43] <Tom_Reinke> SV452: Uhh, I need to install some codec's from somewhere.
[08:43] <SV452> question:  can i get a codec to play m4a files or should i just convert to mpr or something ?
[08:43] <squarepusher> Anyone using shorewall?
[08:43] <squarepusher> Any non-newbs here/
[08:43] <SV452> w32codec?
[08:43] <Tom_Reinke> BHSPitLappy: I tried that but I don't know how to install it once I have it on my machine
[08:43] <SV452> that what i use
[08:43] <SV452> i got it with mplayer
[08:43] <Deeah> fyrestrtr, This is aiglx though, not xgl
[08:43] <squarepusher> Where is the ubuntu channel for non-newbies? :)
[08:43] <squarepusher> i.e., ex-gentooers?
[08:43] <pip> SV452, yeah
[08:43] <dfamorato_> =P
[08:43] <jbmigel> #GENTOO
[08:44] <squarepusher> God ubuntu rules
[08:44] <SV452> @ pip: ???
[08:44] <squarepusher> jbmigel: #debian ...?
[08:44] <greed_> What is the method to upgrade to the latest distro using apt?
[08:45] <pip> SV452, it is called w32codecs
[08:45] <squarepusher> greed_: rm -Rf /
[08:45] <SV452> pip: yip
[08:45] <Tom_Reinke> Can someone please run me through, step by step how to install w32codecs?
[08:45] <pip> Tom39Away, are you using ubuntu dapper ?
[08:46] <PHZN2> squarepusher :  Nice try, but I'm not an idiot
[08:46] <Healot> w32codecs is simply Windows Media codecs, you can simply copy and put them sumwhere, that somewhere I forgot
[08:46] <Tom_Reinke> pip: Xubuntu
[08:46] <pip> Tom_Reinke, , are you using ubuntu dapper ?
[08:46] <PHZN2> Now, seriously, is there someone who can help me out here?
[08:46] <SV452> i downloaded mplayer and did a force install - started synaptic and it complained bout broken package and choose fix and synaptic installed all the needed stuff inlc w32codecs
[08:46] <jbmigel> Tom_Reinke http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:46] <squarepusher> PHZN2: really? I thought all non-idiots know how to type $ man apt-get
[08:47] <pip> Tom39Away, sorry! wrong message
[08:47] <Tom_Reinke> pip: ok.. well, all I know is that I'm using xubuntu
[08:48] <pip> Tom_Reinke, you can easily find it in synaptic package manager and mark it to to install
[08:48] <Tom_Reinke> pip: when I mark it to install it never does.
[08:48] <Tom_Reinke> pip: and when I try to install it manually, I get to the './' part and my terminal doesn't understand that
[08:48] <AstralJava> squarepusher: I understand sometimes working with beginners might be a bit, consuming, but it doesn't mean you can start talking rubbish here. Please refrain from causing trouble, but instead help fixing them if you can. Thank you. :)
[08:48] <SV452> i had that prob - then i manually downloaded and forced it to install
[08:49] <SV452> hold on - i got my .deb packages somewhere
[08:49] <pip> Tom_Reinke, so strange . have you change the permission of w32codecs file you have got
[08:49] <SV452> maybe u'll have more luck with that rather than struggle to compile
[08:49] <squarepusher> AstralJava: and PHZN2 didn't even say thank you. NOW IS THERE SOMEONE HERE WHO CAN REALLY, I MEAN _REALLY_ help me??? :)
[08:49] <Tom_Reinke> pip: how do I check that, would you mind doing this through PM?
[08:50] <bourbon> Any more questions?
[08:50] <AstralJava> squarepusher: You're right, there are those you seem unthankful (?), but still... :) I didn't notice, what kind of a problem are you having? I only saw you helping others.
[08:50] <BadDolphin> Not meaning to butt in, but I'm trying Ubuntu for the first time (first linux install ever) and Firefox doesn't play vids.  The documentation says to install "totem gstreamer-firefox-plugin" from the Universe Repository.  But there's no such thing listed there.   Surely I don't have to install codecs just to see the programs listed in the repositories.
[08:51] <pip> Tom_Reinke, easy,right click on w32codecs file and see the permission ,check there if it is excutable
[08:51] <BadDolphin> I'm able to see lots of stuff in the Universe repository, but no plug-in for firefox video.
[08:51] <CorpseFeeder> i had to reset my computer... everything is mostly back to normal but all my screen preferences, desktop icons and email setup is gone.
[08:51] <jbmigel> VadDolphin this link shows you howto get codecs http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[08:51] <pip> Tom_Reinke, I mean see the propertities
[08:52] <ichigo_kun> hello everybody
[08:52] <bourbon> AstralJava: no problems here. I'm just bored, interested to know if anyone else uses Shorewall, ChucK, gnu/screen, irssi or cmus on ubuntu (because I do, and they are awesome!)
[08:52] <BadDolphin> Before I get codecs, don't I need to make the browser even be able to see the player?
[08:52] <bourbon> BadDolphin: Since you're new let me be the first one to tell you that plugins are (probably?) never going to work as well as you'd hoped/expected.
[08:53] <BadDolphin> I guess I just don't see what codecs have to do with software missing from the Universe repository.  Am I missing a key concept?
[08:53] <ichigo_kun> i'm in a big trouble with ubuntu dapper 6.06 LTS
[08:53] <bourbon> The key concept IMHO is that Firefox is a web browser, not a video player.
[08:53] <CorpseFeeder> who was it who told me to do "rm -rf /" or whatever it was??? I think that stuffed up my conmputer.
[08:53] <SV452> @ Tom_Reinke :  hay check this out - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[08:53] <champ`measure> How do I edit my Xorg.conf file?
[08:53] <bourbon> champ`measure: $ sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:54] <champ`measure> thanks
[08:54] <jbmigel> wow CorpseFeeder did you really run that?
[08:54] <BadDolphin> Yeah, I know some things won't play, but I really won't wanna keep an OS that, as a rule, won't allow the browser to display ANY vids.  I can live with "some" not working.
[08:54] <CorpseFeeder> yes
[08:54] <ichigo_kun> My usb devices don't work since i've upgrade to dapper 6.60 LTS
[08:54] <bourbon> BadDolphin: what is the file ext you wish to play?
[08:54] <jbmigel> CorpseFeeder that guy was a jerk and your screwed now
[08:55] <CorpseFeeder> apparently it would have been worse if I typed sudo in front.
[08:55] <jbmigel> CorpseFeeder the command you ran deleted all files you have write access too
[08:55] <Tom_Reinke> SV452: Thanks, I'll try that too
[08:55] <jbmigel> yes it could have been worse
[08:55] <SV452> @ Tom_Reinke - they show how to install w32codecs and all
[08:55] <Tom_Reinke> SV452: even if I'm using xubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[08:55] <jbmigel> bourbon i hope your taking note of the damage you have done to CorpseFeeders comp
[08:56] <bourbon> jbmigel: I'm in tears.
[08:56] <Arcad3> where can i get a list of all channels from freenode?
[08:56] <CorpseFeeder> i'm sure you are lol
[08:56] <SV452> @ Tom_Reinke : unless i missed a big lesson - it should work no prob
[08:56] <bourbon> CorpseFeeder: try replacing your normal user with a different one.
[08:57] <bourbon> since my command did not include sudo (as did someone else's) root's files should all still be intact.
[08:57] <CorpseFeeder> i am the normal user? should I get a friend to use my computer instead???
[08:57] <vicscandl> CorpseFeeder: did you seriously run that rm command?
[08:57] <jbmigel> CorpseFeeder i just hope you didnt have any important personal files
[08:57] <bourbon> vicscandl: I can't believe it either
[08:57] <CorpseFeeder> I did run it. I didn't have any important files on this computer
[08:58] <SV452> @ Tom_Reinke : xubuntu i recon is only ur WM that is diff - the underlying system is the same all round -
[08:58] <vicscandl> bourbon: i feel bad tricking a windows user.
[08:58] <bourbon> CorpseFeeder: you may be interested in this link http://gullible.info
[08:58] <SV452> @ Tom_Reinke : Xubuntu is a complete GNU/Linux based system with an Ubuntu base
[08:58] <Tom_Reinke> SV452: thank you very much
[08:58] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder,   you ready to try again?
[08:58] <ichigo_kun> Hi everybody
[08:58] <bourbon> vicscandl: All's fair...
[08:59] <foo> There is no fubuntu or something with fluxbox, right? I like gnome, but I need something light and quick for my laptop. Just wondering.
[08:59] <bourbon> ichigo_kun: HI ichigo_kun
[08:59] <ichigo_kun> could I get some help please
[08:59] <vicscandl> mmm fluxbox is yummy
[08:59] <jbmigel> foo you can do the server install then add fluxbox
[08:59] <BHSPitLappy> foo, fluxbuntu!
[08:59] <CheekyBoinc> Fluxbuntu is in development foo
[08:59] <SV452> flux is cool
[08:59] <bourbon> flux sux
[08:59] <DigitalNinja> can someone search for hacking open suse
[08:59] <ichigo_kun> i got a big trouble since i upgrade to dapper 6.06 LTS
[08:59] <foo> CheekyBoinc: oh, it really is?
[08:59] <foo> nice
[08:59] <DigitalNinja> I need the website
[08:59] <ba> fluxbuntu! that sounds awesome!
[08:59] <ba> yay!
[08:59] <champ`measure> Bourbon: That didn't allow me to do anything
[08:59] <foo> jbmigel: server install? Isn't that.. for, uh, servers?
[08:59] <bourbon> I want to see ratpoisuntu
[08:59] <SV452> hehe
[08:59] <bourbon> or ionuntu
[09:00] <ichigo_kun> my usb devices don't work
[09:00] <DigitalNinja> I would search but I'm beeing filtered
[09:00] <champ`measure> still can't edit my xorg.conf
[09:00] <CheekyBoinc> Yes foo! Take a look http://fluxbuntu.org/
[09:00] <foo> Is it stable?
[09:00] <bourbon> champ`measure: uh... do you know what vim is?
[09:00] <CheekyBoinc> No !
[09:00] <champ`measure> nope
[09:00] <BHSPitLappy> fo0bar, server install is just a minimalistic install.
[09:00] <champ`measure> i'm a noob
[09:00] <CheekyBoinc> There is a early alpha
[09:00] <BHSPitLappy> uhh
[09:00] <BHSPitLappy> sorry
[09:00] <BHSPitLappy> foo, ^
[09:00] <bourbon> Then you need to learn that first, or use a graphical editor like kate or gedit.
[09:00] <jbmigel> foo it just installs with no desktop... then you can install flux
[09:00] <CorpseFeeder> bohemian: I am ready to try again but I don't know if my computer is after all the abuse it has suffered from peple tricking me into wrecking it....
[09:00] <BHSPitLappy> fo0bar, sorry for the highlight.
[09:00] <bourbon> champ`measure: replace vim with gedit in the above
[09:00] <Tom_Reinke> champ`measure: don't do anything burbon tells you to do
[09:01] <vicscandl> well i'll be... thanks CheekyBoinc... never knew there was a flux distro...
[09:01] <bohemian> CorpseFeeder, uname -r to check your kernel version, cd to /lib/modules/kernel version/extra/  , delete rt61.ko  then depmod -a                       then start again
[09:01] <juan> !grub
[09:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:01] <foo> jbmigel / BHSPitLappy: So it's just a minimal install. Is there anyway to do a minimal install with the desktop edition or no?
[09:01] <bohemian> you need to be root CorpseFeeder   so sudo those commands
[09:01] <bourbon> fo0bar: server install is headless
[09:01] <ichigo_kun> my usb devices don't work since i upgrade from the normal dapper to the LTS version
[09:01] <CheekyBoinc> It will be nice :) Fluxbuntu
[09:01] <BHSPitLappy> foo, I don't think so. download the alternate or server cd.
[09:01] <CorpseFeeder> can we move to another channel so I can keep track of what's going on...
[09:01] <BHSPitLappy> it only takes like half an hour on the torrent
[09:01] <bohemian> #sajdhf
[09:01] <jbmigel> foo sorry im not sure about using the desktop cd
[09:02] <champ`measure> I got into the xorg.conf file, but when i try and save my changes it won't let me. Read Only
[09:02] <foo> BHSPitLappy: eh, lame. No way to even do an advanced mode and select no packages or something? Instead of selecting options you mean it just installs everything? Lame
[09:02] <hantoo> heh
[09:02] <bourbon> champ`measure: type su - and type root password. then type vim /etc...
[09:02] <hantoo> i just grab the server edition and install it
[09:02] <vicscandl> champ`measure: sudo vim <filename>
[09:02] <BHSPitLappy> foo, no package selection. install minimal, and apt your way up.
[09:03] <champ`measure> so when you say vim you mean gedit?
[09:03] <jbmigel> foo you could just install the desktop version, then add flux, then remove gnome... will take a little extra hd space but will work
[09:03] <foo> jbmigel: hm, I see.
[09:03] <bourbon> champ`measure: sudo <arbitrary text editor command> <textfile>
[09:03] <foo> Ubuntu probably installs some goodies, though, eh?
[09:03] <vicscandl> champ`measure: i'm oldschool... its vim, but yea, gedit works for you graphics nuts.. ;)
[09:04] <BHSPitLappy> champ`measure, if I were you, I'd type "/ignore bourbon!*@* ALL" in this window.
[09:04] <bourbon> foo: gnome-crap is one I think
[09:04] <bourbon> BHSPitLappy: what is _your_ problem?
[09:04] <BHSPitLappy> heh
[09:05] <bourbon> I'm happy to assist everyone.
[09:05] <BHSPitLappy> did I do anything to you?
[09:05] <foo> bourbon: ahh, ok.
[09:05] <foo> Hmm.
[09:05] <bourbon> BHSPitLappy: keep my name out your mouth, beeyotch
[09:05] <BHSPitLappy> get a more original name.
[09:05] <foo> So a server install is just a minimal install?
[09:05] <vicscandl> foo: quite
[09:05] <BHSPitLappy> I -happen- to be an alcoholic, so that wouldn't be possible.
[09:05] <BHSPitLappy> foo, right-o
[09:05] <jbmigel> foo that depends on your definition of minimal
[09:06] <foo> jbmigel: debian minimal.
[09:06] <testleper> I think ION3 is the best WM evar.
[09:06] <BHSPitLappy> tiled wm ftw!
[09:06] <testleper> If it weren't written in lua it might be usable.
[09:06] <ichigo_kun> can i have somebody attention for some few minutes
[09:06] <ichigo_kun> please
[09:06] <BHSPitLappy> !ask
[09:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:06] <atk> Hi. I've used previosly xubuntu and now I installed gnome. For some reason my notify-send doesn't work: it just exits right away without any error and without displaying anything. How to sort it out?
[09:06] <SV452> how do one manage startup stuff for dapper drake?
[09:06] <VoX> hi, i'm having trouble with samba. when i try to connect to my shared directory, i'm getting this error: [2006/09/10 01:54:12, 0]  smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(592) Can't become connected user!   any ideas?
[09:06] <jbmigel> foo im not sure of the exact packages but that is the idea
[09:06] <vicscandl> anyone have a name for a video card benchmarking program?
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> SV452: use bum
[09:07] <foo> ah
[09:07] <ichigo_kun> my usb devices don't work since i upgrade from the normal dapper to the LTS version so anybody know howto to solve this problem
[09:07] <SV452> bum?
[09:07] <testleper> vicscandl: glxgears
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> !info bum
[09:07] <foo> eh, they should call it minimal install and not server. That's stupid.
[09:07] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:07] <sethk> VoX, sounds like a process is running as an ordinary user instead of root, and for that reason can't execute an su
[09:07] <SV452> !info bum
[09:07] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:07] <testleper> foo: agreed
[09:07] <sethk> VoX, well, the equivalent of an su from within a program, but you get the idea
[09:07] <SV452> awesome
[09:07] <SV452> thanx!
[09:08] <vicscandl> testleper: glxgears, the screensaver?
[09:08] <VoX> sethk: how would that have occured? everything has been installed straight from apt
[09:08] <foo> testleper: Should I stay with debian unstable? I'm debating. Hmm. I run ubuntu on one of my desktops and 2 servers
[09:08] <testleper> it also counts fps.
[09:08] <vicscandl> testleper: ahhh.. thanks.
[09:08] <sethk> VoX, I'm not sure.  did it ever work?
[09:08] <jbmigel> foo i think calling it server is a marketing thing to get people to install it on their servers.... instead of everyone installing minimal deb
[09:08] <VoX> sethk: no. this is a fresh install, not even a day old
[09:08] <foo> jbmigel: I see
[09:09] <pip> Healot, Hi,I have installed Mplayer and  it can play .rmvb movies but a little problem is when I start mplayer to play there comes a window saying :It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card avaliable!
[09:09] <sethk> VoX, there are only two possibilities.  either it has a problem changing the effective user ID on the linux box, or it is getting an authentication error from the windows box it's trying to talk to.
[09:09] <sethk> VoX, if the latter, it could be as simple as an incorrect windows side password.
[09:09] <VoX> sethk: it's not talking to a windows box.
[09:09] <sethk> what's it talking to?
[09:09] <juan> i did a fake install of ubuntu (Some old 1 i had a livecd for), can i redirect the grub to my newer install so that i can delete the fake 1
[09:09] <VoX> sethk: another ubuntu box
[09:09] <SV452> question - i have a dapper drake install @work (behind proxy/firewall) and need to get packages with synaptic but it can't download them since i get an error proxy auth required and i have to manualy dl with wget - i have my box joined the domain and yet it doesn't work - any ideas ??
[09:10] <sethk> samba is only used to communicate with windows networks
[09:10] <VoX> sethk: uh no
[09:10] <Mez> sethk, hello
[09:10] <testleper> foo: I dunno, I'm new to deb/ubuntu. But I googled around for "ubuntu vs debian" and found some interesting stuff.
[09:10] <sethk> VoX, then you shouldn't be using samba at all.
[09:10] <sethk> Mez, hi
[09:10] <sethk> VoX, uh, yes
[09:10] <jbmigel> SV452 i think the system tab has a network proxy config applet
[09:10] <foo> testleper: I see. What'd you learn?
[09:10] <tj_> while bash scripting, is it possible to store the first line in a slave file, into a variable in the main file?
[09:10] <SV452> i have set that up too
[09:10] <Mez> sethk, sorry, thought you were seth kinasy
[09:10] <SV452> and i have done the whole export proxy_http stuffs too
[09:10] <VoX> sethk: i've been using smb to communicate between linux boxes for a few years
[09:10] <jbmigel> SV452 it didnt help?
[09:11] <sethk> Mez, that's ok, you can say hello
[09:11] <sethk> VoX, I suppose you can, but why?
[09:11] <sethk> VoX, a totally useless layer of inefficiency
[09:11] <SV452> nothing helped - i can dl from terminal but not from gui
[09:11] <testleper> foo: eventually went with ubuntu, because of the general consensus that Debian is disliked for its irregular release schedule and unorganized developers. Supposedly the "corporate structure", not my phrase, of ubuntu is one of its strong points. And it does have one hell of a branding campaign to boot...
[09:11] <VoX> sethk: mmuh. ok.
[09:11] <sethk> VoX, doesn't explain your problem, I know, but it's certainly an odd way to do things.
[09:12] <foo> testleper: Gotcha. Nice
[09:12] <jbmigel> SV452 so download from terminal
[09:12] <sethk> Are you trying to share files?  printers?  or what?
[09:12] <SV452> i have been - but i recon the problem should be solveable
[09:12] <VoX> sethk: share files between numerous linux and windows machines
[09:12] <testleper> That doesn't mean I dislike Debian, just other peoples' opinions. So far I am very impressed. And I did the normal install, which was perhaps the most flawless and usable part of the entire experience---or any Linux experience I have had so far.
[09:12] <sethk> VoX, then you are talking to windows boxes
[09:12] <sethk> VoX, I didn't mean that all the boxes had to be windows boxes, just some
[09:13] <Burgundavia> foo: for the record, there isn't much "debian vs ubuntu". For the most part, the key people in each get along very well.
[09:13] <foo> Burgundavia: Nice
[09:13] <VoX> sethk: yes, but i havent tried to connect to smb with windows yet
[09:13] <BHSPitLappy> that works for me
[09:13] <testleper> Burgundavia: I meant vis-a-vis, not vs.
[09:13] <sethk> VoX, ok, then there has to be a user mismatch between the boxes.  One is a new install, what's the other?
[09:13] <VoX> a new-ish dapper install
[09:13] <VoX> same username
[09:13] <VoX> same pass
[09:14] <sethk> VoX, same UID also?
[09:14] <testleper> VoX: same group?
[09:14] <testleper> VoX: trick question.
[09:14] <VoX> sethk: yes
[09:14] <VoX> testleper: same group?
[09:14] <testleper> Does that even matter? Never used samba here.
[09:14] <sethk> VoX, I don't believe so
[09:14] <sethk> I mean
[09:14] <sethk> testleper, I don't believe so
[09:14] <SV452> any ideas jbmigel ?
[09:15] <testleper> VoX have you looked into fuse or cygwin? Is samba necessary?
[09:15] <jbmigel> SV452 are you using synaptic as "gui"?
[09:16] <atk> Could someone help figuring me out why notify-send doesn't actually output anything and just quits right away?
[09:16] <SV452> yip
[09:16] <juan> i did a fake install of ubuntu (Some old 1 i had a livecd for), can i redirect the grub to my newer install so that i can delete the fake 1?
[09:16] <jbmigel> SV452 there is a network proxy config in synaptics "preferences" sheet
[09:16] <testleper> !notify-send
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notify-send - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <SV452> i did that too
[09:16] <SV452> hence why i am asking  maybe i missed something - hehehe
[09:17] <jbmigel> SV452 perhaps your password/
[09:17] <testleper> atk: what is notify-send?
[09:17] <testleper> kde user here
[09:17] <VoX> testleper: havent looked at those, no
[09:17] <sethk> SV452,  sniff the packets for both cases, and see what's different about the one that succeeds vs. the one that fails.
[09:17] <SV452> i doubt that
[09:18] <jbmigel> SV452 I note that snaptics proxy configs point to port 3128 or something... do you think your corporate proxy is set up to proxy that? maybe change it to 80
[09:18] <atk> testleper: displays notifications, balloon messages type of messages
[09:18] <SV452> hmmm - i thought that the reason it works for terminal is cause i did the export proxy_http thing
[09:18] <SV452> nope - we use 3128
[09:18] <testleper> atk: is that something you can call directly?
[09:19] <stimfalia> list
[09:19] <stimfalia> lst
[09:19] <SV452> what i mean is our proxy port is 3128 -
[09:19] <sethk> SV452, then why would it work with wget?
[09:19] <jbmigel> SV452 hmmm
[09:20] <testleper> I am going to go play with ChucK now.  http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ Goodnight
[09:20] <atk> testleper: Yes. A gnome thing. If you don't know what it is then I'm pretty sure you can't help. I've gotten command and it's options correctly so it has to be some other thing that causes problems.
[09:20] <stimfalia> #list
[09:21] <SV452> i have no idea to be honest
[09:21] <jbmigel> SV452 you said you did the export http_proxy nonsense?
[09:21] <SV452> yip
[09:22] <SV452> for both my domain user( i configured ubuntu to log on to domain) and root
[09:22] <Lucinder> An entire room of computer literate people o.o *picks her jaw up off the floor*..  I feel so out of place.. *leaves*
[09:25] <jbmigel> SV452 does it work if you call synaptic from a console?
[09:25] <SV452> bum rules !
[09:25] <SV452> i tried that
[09:25] <abhinay> how to change the usplash screen to "Ubuntu" (default usplash screen) at booting time .. ?
[09:25] <opexoc> Could anybody tell me how can I download only 1 or 2 updates from ubuntu software updates program because 173 packages are checked to update... so If I want update only 1-or 2 I have to check out 171/172 packages... How can I do it easier?
[09:25] <jbmigel> SV452 did it work then?
[09:25] <SV452> nope
[09:26] <SV452> any recomendation or a checklist
[09:27] <SV452> so i can go monday and check it out
[09:27] <jbmigel> 1. forcibly remove corporate proxy and give free duplex network access to all
[09:27] <McJerry> does anyone know if there is a channel for msicomputers ?  I keep getting a no keyboard detected error on POST and have tried numerous keyboards and have flashed the bios and reset/cleared the bios and keep having the same problem any suggestions?
[09:27] <khnh> hi guys
[09:27] <SV452> @ jbmigel - hehehehe - it doesnt mean i am domain admin i can do that
[09:27] <SV452> hehehehehe
[09:28] <atk> How to find out why my notification-daemon isn't working and if it's running at all?
[09:28] <khnh> can any 1 telll me how to open ports
[09:28] <whazilla> goodmornin
[09:28] <SV452> @ atk - bum ?
[09:28] <whazilla> so i'm still wondering howto mount a lvm with write acces using a live dvd
[09:29] <atk> SV452: a bummer indeed but it isn't run as init service
[09:30] <SV452> @ atk - bum - Boot-Up manager
[09:30] <jbmigel> SV452 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=454026
[09:30] <SV452> shows what is running and what is not
[09:30] <jbmigel> SV452 looks like a solution at the end
[09:31] <SV452> @ jbmigel - will check it out ...
[09:31] <SV452> my whole thing is to loose my M$ box and only uses ubuntu
[09:32] <whazilla> so nobody ? on howto load lvm in write acces using a live cd ?
[09:33] <abhinay> how to change the usplash screen from kubuntu to ubuntu ?
[09:33] <sethk> whazilla, if it isn't the root file system, you can chroot and then mount it
[09:33] <atk> SV452: "Boot-Up Manager is graphical tool to allow easy configuration of init services in user and system runlevels" - Like I said, not run as init service. Bum is yet another graphical frontend for /etc/rc?.d
[09:34] <bohemian> abhinay,  in synaptic mark ksplash for removal and usplash for reinstallation    (use search to find them)
[09:34] <niceman2> hi
[09:34] <niceman2> ubuntu linux sucks
[09:34] <whazilla> sethk ... isn't the root file ?
[09:34] <jbmigel> thats not very nice man
[09:34] <whazilla> what u mean ... like \ mountpoint and kernel ?
[09:35] <sethk> whazilla, if the lvm volume you want to mount is not the root file system of the disk isntallation
[09:35] <whazilla> cuz it's just that
[09:35] <sethk> whazilla, and \ is an escape character
[09:35] <whazilla> :$
[09:35] <dade`> who has a macbook here ?
[09:35] <sethk> whazilla, why can't you boot it from the disk?
[09:35] <whazilla> i can
[09:35] <whazilla> but i messed up /etc/environment
[09:35] <usama> hi all
[09:35] <sethk> whazilla, then why do you want to mount it from the live cd
[09:35] <whazilla> and need to restore that
[09:36] <whazilla> ... cuz i need a way to restore
[09:36] <usama> how can i make network b/w to PCs?
[09:36] <whazilla> my bash is broken paths
[09:36] <sethk> whazilla, that doesn't matter, you can still run everything by using complete paths
[09:36] <sethk> whazilla, you can mount something and copy /etc/environment in
[09:36] <whazilla> ther not complete
[09:36] <whazilla> i can't ls cd and so on
[09:36] <jbmigel> usama look into samba
[09:36] <sethk> whazilla, you can set your path in the shell
[09:36] <whazilla> k
[09:37] <whazilla> excport = PATH =
[09:37] <sethk> whazilla, just get into a shell, and do    export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
[09:37] <usama> jbmigel: no, b/w to linux systems
[09:37] <_pete> hey everybody whats up
[09:37] <whazilla> tyhkx
[09:37] <sethk> whazilla, those four are probably all you need
[09:37] <jbmigel> usama look into nfs
[09:38] <usama> jbmigel: lemme check
[09:38] <_pete> anybody have any eperience with this script :  http://rob.pectol.com/myscripts/encryption.sh.txt    ????
[09:39] <Tom_Reinke> How to I force an application to stop?
[09:39] <Tom_Reinke> like.. close it
[09:39] <jbmigel> ctrl-c
[09:39] <_pete> im having trouble with the files that creates and usb thumbdrives
[09:39] <Tom_Reinke> jbmigel: funny
[09:39] <ofer> I can not hear any sound althouth the sound card is seem to be set
[09:40] <nosse> I have laptop with a really annoying touchpad, how can I disable it?
[09:40] <_pete> ofer: did you have sound before?
[09:40] <SV452> i never thought of ftp
[09:40] <ofer> no
[09:40] <SV452> doesn't synaptic do ftp ?
[09:40] <ofer> this is first time I am trying
[09:40] <jbmigel> Tom_Reinke you can find it with ps -ae and then kill your app?
[09:40] <_pete> ofer: weird, sorry cant really help
[09:41] <Tom_Reinke> jbmigel: Oh I thought you told me to use ctrl - c to close it..
[09:41] <jbmigel> ctrl-c will close an app running in console
[09:42] <champ`measure> For some reason I am unable to CD into X11...
[09:42] <Tom_Reinke> jbmigel: Ah.. thank you, but it was a GUI app, it worked.
[09:42] <jbmigel> Tom_Reinke oh thats good... but i wouldnt count on it all the time
[09:42] <AlienX> champ`measure, the directory is /etc/X11/
[09:43] <Tom_Reinke> jbmigel: It's just that some zip files didn't finish copying from a CD and I accidentally tried to open the half-file with xarchiver.. Making it very very confused.
[09:43] <whazilla> thkx it's fixed sethk
[09:43] <whazilla> :D
[09:44] <jbmigel> Tom_Reinke patience grasshopper
[09:44] <Tom_Reinke> jbmigel: patience is not on my side with 300 mhz
[09:45] <jbmigel> thats awesome that your running this os on that hardware... im so happy for you
[09:45] <champ`measure> AlienX: says no such file or directory
[09:45] <AlienX> type "ls /etc/X11/"
[09:46] <mtholdenss> compiz rep is so slow....
[09:46] <AlienX> champ`measure, ^
[09:46] <champ`measure> with the / afterwards?
[09:46] <AlienX> champ`measure, yes...copy and paste what I typed
[09:46] <AlienX> without the quotes
[09:46] <Tom_Reinke> jbmigel: Yea, 300 mhz is screamin isn't it? Well, truth is, no windows versions ran well on it, so I decided to give xubuntu a try. So far lots of problems but they're getting resolved.. 1 at a time.
[09:46] <ofer> what is the best way for remote desktop?
[09:46] <niceman2> ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: LINUX SUCKS! ATTENTION: 
[09:46] <knix> no wai!
[09:47] <champ`measure> no such file or directory
[09:47] <AlienX> oooo nalioth...
[09:47] <whazilla> niceman u aren't nice at all
[09:47] <AlienX> champ`measure, are you running X?
[09:47] <champ`measure> maybe
[09:47] <AlienX> maybe?
[09:48] <champ`measure> don't know how to turn it off
[09:48] <jbmigel> niceman2 did you have a problem or are you just acting like that cuz your afraid to ask?
[09:48] <hantoo> whats the differences of APM and ACPI? :o
[09:48] <AlienX> champ`measure, type the following...without quotes: "dpkg -l xorg"
[09:48] <SV452> what is the easiest way to manage your apt/archives for backups ?
[09:48] <AlienX> jbmigel, don't feed the trolls
[09:49] <niceman2> I HAVE USED LINUX AND WINDOWS AND LINUX BLOWS MONKEY BALLS
[09:49] <jerb> be nice
[09:49] <CheekyBoinc> CAPSLOCK IS EVIL
[09:49] <SV452> hmmm
[09:49] <SV452> niceman2: i recon u blow just as good money balls
[09:50] <niceman2> the best way to fix ur linux trouble is rm -rf / then install windows
[09:50] <champ`measure> Needs an action option
[09:50] <bc> how can i upgrade to kde 3.5.4 for dapper?
[09:50] <SV452> how bout rm -rf /niceman - universe
[09:51] <bc> anyone, can help pls
[09:51] <AlienX> champ`measure, action option?
[09:51] <niceman2> how bout u sux my cock and swallow my cum
[09:51] <SV452> @ niceman2 - i recon u one of those monkeys that like to be spoon fed by M$
[09:51] <hantoo> bc: what do you want :o
[09:51] <champ`measure> thats what it said
[09:51] <niceman2> i got klined a while back but im back on freenode im a troll
[09:52] <AlienX> champ`measure, i don't even know what that means, i've never gotten an error like that
[09:52] <SV452> u can say that again
[09:52] <bc> hantoo: i want upgrade my kde 3.5.2 to kde 3.5.4
[09:53] <jbmigel> bc why?
[09:53] <bc> hantoo: just want to try
[09:53] <AlienX> bc, you'll have to find a repository and edit your sources.list but I am not sure offhand which ones have it.
[09:54] <bc> hantoo: does kde 3.5.4 make alot of differences?
[09:54] <AlienX> bc, not really
[09:54] <bc> ok
[09:54] <knix> Anyone know the status of Gnome 2.16? When will it be available in dapper?
[09:54] <RMorris85> ok i may need a little help... but i think its time to delete my windows partition :) what are some things i need to worry about?
[09:55] <jbmigel> RMorris85 id be worried about losing your data
[09:55] <niceman2> no delete ur linux partition
[09:55] <xopher> knix, I doubt it will be ever
[09:55] <niceman2> linux blows
[09:55] <champ`measure> How do I turn off X?
[09:55] <AlienX> niceman2, what? no caps?
[09:55] <xopher> knix, not a hundred percent sure about their policy though, but edgy is just behind the corner and well, there you go
[09:55] <RMorris85> jbmigel: how so? do i just delete that partition and im set or what?
[09:55] <AlienX> champ`measure, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:56] <hantoo> are there any decent howto's for making hibernate/suspend work with acpi
[09:56] <jbmigel> RMorris85 yes but make sure you have backed up all your important data from that partition first... you cannot get it back
[09:56] <SV452> can someone please rm niceman2
[09:56] <niceman2> u
[09:56] <niceman2> b
[09:56] <niceman2> u
[09:56] <niceman2> n
[09:56] <niceman2> t
[09:56] <niceman2> u
[09:56] <niceman2> l
[09:56] <niceman2> i
[09:56] <niceman2> n
[09:56] <niceman2> u
[09:56] <AlienX> SV452, no ops are around :(
[09:56] <xopher> !ops
[09:56] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:56] <niceman2> x
[09:56] <niceman2> s
[09:56] <niceman2> u
[09:56] <niceman2> c
[09:56] <niceman2> k
[09:56] <niceman2> s
[09:56] <niceman2> !
[09:57] <niceman2> i heard i was gonna be a op soon
[09:57] <xopher> niceman2, could you be kind and fuck off?
[09:57] <RMorris85> niceman2: lol listen to what u said... maybe when your intelligence level is above a 4th grader you will appreciate linux
[09:57] <Madkiss> hi all;
[09:57] <RMorris85> jbmigel: other than backing up what i need will grub catch the changes?
[09:57] <niceman2> linux is for retards that have nothing better to do then fuck with a os
[09:57] <xopher> You should be able to vote kick someone out 
[09:57] <niceman2> i have a life i like to play games and use my computer not fuck with the os
[09:57] <Boglizk> niceman2: With other words, yeah kindof
[09:57] <niceman2> no
[09:57] <niceman2> don't ban me
[09:57] <Stormscape> them's fightin' words
[09:58] <SV452> so go have ur life nic
[09:58] <Madkiss> eww
[09:58] <niceman2> don't ban me
[09:58] <jbmigel> RMorris85 you will probably want to update your menu.lst for grub to not show the windows option anymore
[09:58] <Madkiss> niceman2: What are you up to?
[09:58] <xopher> aww
[09:58] <Stormscape> lol
[09:58] <Stormscape> high five
[09:58] <SV452> finaly
[09:58] <Bennedetto> allo everyone, i've just got a quick question here.  I have a laptop with an i810, and i would like to use xgl. is it better supported in Edgy Eft or should i stick with dapper
[09:58] <SV452> thanx
[09:58] <AlienX> imbrandon, probably should just ban the guy
[09:58] <Madkiss> imbrandon: Err. I could have ... well .. released him from his pain
[09:58] <Boglizk> I'm trying to decide which font to use on irssi, any suggestions?
[09:58] <Boglizk> in*
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Bennedetto: you should use aiglx, and stick with dapper. Edgy is not for general use.
[09:59] <hantoo> artwiz gelly!
[09:59] <hantoo> ;p
[09:59] <xopher> Bennedetto, well Id put edgy on it, but Im suicidal too ;) Its more likely to work with dapper still
[09:59] <Bennedetto> alrighty
[09:59] <Boglizk> ohh.. i havn't installed the artwiz fonts
[09:59] <Bennedetto> aiglx, i was checking out the wiki for it, and it doesnt mention any intel video cards being supported
[09:59] <Boglizk> brb.. i'll do that
[09:59] <RMorris85> jbmigel: after that i plan on using vmware server with win2kpro, what type of partition should i make the the old one?
[09:59] <xopher> Bennedetto, but one benefit of edgy over dapper though, aiglx is installed by default so its 'a lot' easier to enable it
[10:00] <Deeah> Where can I get an icon pack with extra icons? Like the trademarked firefox icon etc
[10:00] <Bennedetto> yeah, i have no problem installing aiglx if it supports my hardware
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Deeah: gnome-look.org
[10:00] <xopher> Bennedetto, ultimately its all about if you can live with it breaking a few times until edgy is released
[10:00] <xopher> Hope you're confused ;)
[10:00] <jbmigel> RMorris85 if make it fat32 then you will be happy later cuz anything can write to it
[10:01] <Bennedetto> xopher: well, if there isnt a large benefit with running it, id rather run a more stable version
[10:01] <Bennedetto> but yes, still, i would like to know if aiglx supports intel video cards
[10:01] <RMorris85> jbmigel: what should i do to redo the partition? the ubuntu live cd?
[10:01] <xopher> Bennedetto, join #ubuntu-xgl and ask there
[10:02] <Bennedetto> alrighty, thanks
[10:02] <jbmigel> RMorris85 just use fdisk... delete the old partition, create a new one
[10:03] <jbmigel> RMorris85 please make sure you have properly backed up your system before messing with your partitions
[10:03] <RMorris85> as in my ubuntu?
[10:03] <therien> yeah basically...  this OS is rad.
[10:04] <jbmigel> RMorris85 as in put anything you cant afford to lose on a disk not plugged into your computer
[10:04] <RMorris85> jbmigel: lol good call... imma back it up online :)
[10:05] <jbmigel> RMorris85 that is a fantastic idea... personally i have a usb harddrive
[10:07] <RMorris85> jbmigel: i wish i had one... but unfortunately i don't have one big enough for what i need... no dvd burner either... i am going to get me one of those 3.5" hd cases that turn it into a usb drive... i have like 5 spare xbox hd's i can store stuff on
[10:07] <rss> hi, I installed Ubuntu 64bit on AMD Sempron 64Bit processor machine, gdm is started and when I login only the brown screen with a cursor comes up. GNOME doesn't
[10:08] <Schalken> come up?
[10:08] <jbmigel> RMorris85 ya thats what i bought one of them 3.5 hdd cases... it was like $20 or something they are totally worth it
[10:08] <RMorris85> jbmigel: ebay?
[10:08] <RMorris85> lol
[10:09] <phyburn_> Hey I am having troubles with installing. The install can't find my SATA drive I am using the newest installer/
[10:09] <jbmigel> RMorris85 no you can just buy the case and put your own hdd in them then they are cheap
[10:09] <rss> after logging in, the brown screen(which is usually the background of the splash screen) comes and nothing else
[10:09] <rss> the cursor is moving
[10:09] <Schalken> how do i restore grub after i reinstall windows?
[10:09] <RMorris85> jbmigel: yea thats what im talking about... where did u get the case from?
[10:09] <rogue_boy> hello
[10:09] <phyburn_> Hey I am having troubles with installing. The install can't find my SATA drive I am using the newest installer/
[10:09] <jbmigel> RMorris85 im in canada i ordered from ncix.com what country you in?
[10:10] <RMorris85> jbmigel: the greatest one in the worllddd... right below u
[10:10] <ofer> the internet connection is disconnected and I need to set up everytime the dns and run pppoeconf how it is possible to save the information?
[10:10] <RMorris85> lol
[10:10] <Schalken> phyburn_: do you know that it works?
[10:10] <rss> Is there any similar precedent for my problem?
[10:10] <jbmigel> RMorris85 you mean australia?
[10:11] <phyburn_> Scalken: yes becuase my windows is using half of it
[10:11] <phyburn_> Scalken: it's already partitioned
[10:11] <bc> how can i setting my Ip with console
[10:11] <bc> ip address, iptables
[10:11] <jbmigel> bc man ifconfig
[10:11] <bc> cause i have two network card, 'n i want make a router
[10:11] <RMorris85> jbmigel: lol yeah i feel ya... i love the usa but i dont agree with everything we stand for.. but heh im not complaining
[10:12] <bc> what should i do first
[10:12] <Schalken> phyburn_: i have a ubuntu on my sata hdd. perhaps yours isnt supported by ubuntu's driver?
[10:12] <jbmigel> RMorris85 ya you guys are ok... i think you can get a good hdd case at newegg
[10:12] <rss> after loggin' in through GDM, GNOME is not starting, it is a onboard gfx card(but gdm is showing and X is working)
[10:12] <Gibbster> Hello. I can't find my network printer via avahi-browse. Anyone have any idea why?
[10:13] <Gibbster> avahi-discover, rather
[10:13] <Schalken> RMorris85: jbmigel: lets keep it on topic.
[10:13] <rogue_boy> bcmwl5
[10:13] <rss> while booting up, something says "dma not enabled"
[10:13] <KurtKraut> The years has passed but I cant stop enjoying listen to 'Thriller' from Michael Jackson
[10:13] <rss> is that a problem?
[10:13] <bc> jbmigel : can u help me
[10:13] <Agni> hi all
[10:13] <RMorris85> Schalken: and what exactly is the topic? and if u were in our whole convo u would realize its on topic... u topic nazi
[10:13] <Agni> any X gurus around?
[10:14] <Schalken> rss: possibly, but it would usually mean that it would just run slow rather than not run at all.
[10:14] <phyburn_> Hey I am having troubles with installing. The install can't find my SATA drive I am using the newest installer...
[10:14] <jbmigel> bc what you want to do takes alot of time
[10:14] <Schalken> RMorris85: lol
[10:14] <rogue_boy> any way to make my windows see my ubuntu partition in a dual boot notebook pc?
[10:14] <phyburn_> it hangs at mounting the root file system
[10:14] <KurtKraut> phyburn_, have you check you ubuntuforums.org for further details ?
[10:14] <rss> Schalken: it is not coming at all
[10:15] <juri> so i tried switching to upstart on edgy, with the result that my keyboard stopped working after i logged in via gdm
[10:15] <Gibbster> Anyone have any experience setting up zeroconf printers in ubuntu?
[10:15] <RMorris85> Schalken: :) we only got off topic for a sec... i had to rep on the usa
[10:15] <juri> tried booting two times, with the same result, then downgraded to sysvinit and everything works fine
[10:15] <juri> is this a known problem?
[10:15] <phyburn_> KurtKraut: Yes I have
[10:15] <jbmigel> bc start by reading this maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972
[10:15] <rss> Agni: just ask your query, if anyone is aware of that they will answer
[10:15] <bc> jbmigel, i'll try thanks
[10:16] <BlackWoxs_> rogue_boy have a look at http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:16] <Arcad1> a link to a "how to" topic configure apache to be accesible via internet EX:/www.i-have-dns.com
[10:16] <Arcad1> ??
[10:16] <noname_> ..
[10:17] <rogue_boy> is it free BlackWoxs?
[10:17] <BlackWoxs_> certainly is and works well
[10:17] <rogue_boy> i am new to linux sorta but i'm no n00b
[10:17] <foo> Hm, I am getting a "could not open default font 'fixed'" trying to startx. Just kidding.
[10:17] <champ`measure> How do I stop X?
[10:17] <rogue_boy> my roomie tried to install vmware last night but i got pissed and removed it and ubuntu
[10:17] <Schalken> juri: search the edgy bugs. if you cant find one that is what happened to you post a new one. a dev will remove it if it is a duplicate.
[10:17] <rogue_boy> and redid it tonight
[10:17] <foo> champ`measure: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:18] <noname_> i can't install plugin
[10:18] <abhinay> no change in font even though i change in System > Preferences > Fonts , wt ?
[10:18] <foo> Hm, I am getting a "could not open default font 'fixed'" trying to startx.
[10:18] <foo> er, not just kidding
[10:18] <foo> I did apt-cache search
[10:18] <foo> No luck
[10:18] <foo> bah.
[10:18] <juri> Schalken: yeah, i guess i'll take a better look. there were no relevant upstart bugs, but that's such a weird problem it's hard to pinpoint the source
[10:19] <cafuego> foo: xfonts-base
[10:19] <foo> cafuego: bah, thanks. Why didn't apt-cache search fixed return that
[10:19] <Schalken> juri: true. just select unkown package and the bugsquad will have a look
[10:20] <cafuego> foo: Coz it's not in the package name/description.
[10:20] <cafuego> foo: You should be installing x-window-system-core anyway.
[10:20] <rogue_boy> thankyou BlackWoxs_
[10:21] <Agni> hi all
[10:21] <foo> cafuego: ah. ok. startx works ... I can get into fluxbox. Do I still need x-window-system-core? I think apt-get install fluxbox might have installed it
[10:21] <cafuego> Well, it won't hurt.
[10:21] <Agni> am having some X server problems, especially i installed bastille
[10:21] <squee> does anyone know a command so i can find out what chipset is in my wireless card?
[10:22] <Agni> i uninstalled bastilled after restoring my system
[10:22] <treitter> squee: do you know which interface name it has? (like "eth1" or "ath0")
[10:22] <jbmigel> squee try dmesg | grep wlan0
[10:22] <Agni> but my X wont restart .. it juist keeps trying to get into my gui mode over and over
[10:22] <squee> eth1
[10:23] <noname_> can ubuntu restore?
[10:23] <Arcad3> does anyone knows how to http://example.com to work like www.example.com?
[10:23] <Arcad3> *make
[10:23] <treitter> squee: or "dmesg | grep -i wireless"
[10:23] <pschulz01> noname_: How do you mean?
[10:23] <squee> jbmigel: i used eth1 instead but it spat out a whole bunch of things like "device eth1 entered promiscuous mode" and that it left it
[10:24] <treitter> squee: and try replacing 'wireless' with '802.11' in that chain
[10:24] <abhinay> eventhough i change the fonts, nothing happens, anybody help plz ?
[10:24] <noname_> i want to restore
[10:24] <jbmigel> noname_ did you backup?
[10:25] <noname_> yes
[10:25] <noname_> how i do?
[10:25] <squee> "ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection"
[10:25] <Agni> sorry to be a pain folks, but any gurus around?
[10:25] <jbmigel> noname_ what did you use for backup
[10:25] <rogue_boy> brb
[10:26] <Agni> i am having difficulties with my X
[10:26] <KurtKraut> Agni, have you tried to ask for help thru ubuntuforums.org ? It might be easier than repeating over and over again here.
[10:26] <noname_> i install kubuntu but i dont like it
[10:26] <Agni> yes :(
[10:26] <Agni> i have spent almost a day trolling through posts
[10:26] <Lynoure> noname_: Then remove it?
[10:26] <noname_> how?
[10:27] <Arcad3> Agni sudo-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:27] <Agni> KurtKraut, the strange thing is that it starts when i run startx in restore mode
[10:27] <Lynoure> noname_: singleboot or dualboot?
[10:27] <noname_> single
[10:27] <KurtKraut> Agni, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as Arcad3 tried to mention
[10:27] <Agni> ok, will try and be back
[10:27] <Lynoure> noname_: by installing something you like, then
[10:28] <Lynoure> noname_: no special things to it, if there is nothing in it you want to keep
[10:29] <mtholdenss> when edgy is released is upgrading easy?
[10:29] <mtholdenss> will it auto ask if we want to upgrade?
[10:29] <jbmigel> apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:29] <KurtKraut> mtholdenss, yes
[10:30] <mtholdenss> so it will auto ask?
[10:30] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me reinstall Grub? I've got two satas. Ubuntu on sda and Zenwalk which i installed yesterday on sdb. Howver, i can't access ubuntu on sda now. Looks like Lilo has killed Grub. I want help reinstalling Grub and deleting Lilo
[10:30] <noname_> i just to know can xserever do like xp
[10:30] <KurtKraut> mtholdenss, I can't remeber for sure but a single command will make him notice that is a new version and will manage everything to you thru windows
[10:30] <Schalken> livingdaylight: i would also like to know the answer to your question for the purpose of reinstalling windows :P
[10:32] <livingdaylight> administrator: hi, i really do have a question this time for you :-P
[10:33] <jbmigel> mtholdenss /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda
[10:33] <Lynoure> noname_: Ask again? (If that was a question)
[10:33] <jbmigel> mtholdenss sudo even
[10:33] <Flannel> livingdaylight: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:34] <mtholdenss> jbmigel what u mean?
[10:34] <noname_> can i restore my system?
[10:34] <livingdaylight> Flannel: this would be after installing Zenwalk, but the same applies, yea? Can i have the url please?
[10:34] <mtholdenss> why would u want to restore your system? what happened?
[10:34] <SV452> how can i have a diff pic as backgroun for each desktop?
[10:35] <KurtKraut> SV452, thru gnome ? you cant
[10:35] <jbmigel> mtholdenss at command line type "man grub-install"
[10:35] <marcel__> i got a sound problem normally my sound works just fine but from time to time i have no sound (i can solve this by rebooting) does anyone know what the problem might be?
[10:35] <Flannel> livingdaylight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  -- yeah, obviously not the windows specific stuff.
[10:35] <mtholdenss> jbmigel what would that do?
[10:35] <SV452> noooooooo -
[10:35] <KurtKraut> SV452, there is a app that will change the current desktop when you change from workplace
[10:35] <SV452> tell more
[10:35] <jbmigel> mtholdenss it will display the man page for the grub-install program
[10:35] <mtholdenss> y cant u do that in gnome , have diff wallpaper for diff workspace, what about on a certain timer change wallapaper?
[10:36] <Arinomi> Hi all \o I am kinda new to having other OS than Windows, so I am a bit unsure.. do I need to uninstall Windows XP to get this to work?
[10:36] <KurtKraut> SV452, it may create the effect you want but it still a 'hack'. It wont be good in a weak machine
[10:36] <SV452> u can do that
[10:36] <SV452> hmmmm
[10:36] <foo> I do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?
[10:36] <SV452> i'll give it a try
[10:36] <SV452> i remember kde u can do the diff background thing ?
[10:36] <jbmigel> Arinomi you dont need to remove windows.
[10:36] <piratepenguin> what the hell password am I supposed to enter in localhost:631 to add my HP printer?
[10:36] <Flannel> !tell Arinomi about dualboot
[10:36] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, no. You cant keep what we call dual boot. When you install Ubuntu he will notice Windows imediately and when you turn you computer it will ask what system I want to start
[10:36] <mtholdenss> so how can u chang wallpaper on a timer basis?
[10:36] <mtholdenss> in gnome
[10:37] <marcel__> my sound doesnt work anymore could someone help me?
[10:37] <marcel__> !sound
[10:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:37] <SV452> i used to have a proggy for that
[10:37] <SV452> i used it when i used slackware
[10:37] <KurtKraut> SV452, I cant say about KDE. I'm a Gnome fan :P But I miss that feature too.
[10:38] <Marki> hey, i found the solution to my problem on a forum and now i just want to know how to do it!
[10:38] <SV452> i know kde used to do it cause i used kde for sometime before i discovered the pleasure of gnome and even more so the pleasure of dropline gnome for slackware
[10:38] <CorpseFeeder> bohemian: I can't find that #sajdsewhatever channel in the channel list
[10:38] <foo> I do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?
[10:38] <RMorris85> jbmigel: hey is it possible to make a fat32 partition to move my files to then make my windows a fat32 also?
[10:38] <Marki> I figured out my problem. I didn't format my home partition and it kept all my setting from before the upgrade and something in there was conflicting with the upgraded version. I simply created a new user, logged in with them and copied its settings over to my old user
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> CorpseFeeder, #sajdhf
[10:40] <jbmigel> RMorris85 the only way i can see that working is if you reinstall windows as fat32, then put on linux whereever you like
[10:40] <CorpseFeeder> thanks
[10:41] <foo> I do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas?
[10:41] <foo> whoops
[10:41] <RMorris85> jbmigel: i have to partitions right now and on the one windows is on i have like 10 gig free and i wanna to make a 3 gig fat32 for holding files for now with some of that room, then delete my windows partition, then make it a fat32 is that possible?
[10:42] <RMorris85> two*
[10:42] <Marki> how do i disable all my proxy settings globally?
[10:42] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, how big is your RAM ?
[10:42] <Arinomi> 1g
[10:42] <jbmigel> mtholdenss it will display the man page for the grub-ins
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, do you intend to install it over a PC or a Mac ?
[10:43] <Arinomi> PC
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, download de Desktop CD
[10:43] <Arinomi> Okey. Thanks
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, www.ubuntu.com
[10:43] <error> hello
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, www.ubuntu.com/download (sorry)
[10:43] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, Desktop CD for i386 actually
[10:43] <jbmigel> RMorris85 ah i see what your getting at... I think you can cheat to accomplish that... try running the ubuntu installer again and tell it to use part (3gb) of your windows drive and it will fix it
[10:44] <Arinomi> KurtKraut, I downloaded it last night :)
[10:44] <jbmigel> RMorris85 then reformat that new partiton as fat32
[10:44] <RMorris85> with the live cd correct?
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, so just burn the image (not the file itself)  to a CD
[10:44] <KurtKraut> Arinomi, and reboot your PC
[10:45] <Boglizk> I cant get the artwiz fonts to work.. :/
[10:45] <Arinomi> KurtKraut, will do.
[10:45] <jbmigel> RMorris85 yes, another way would be to boot into windows and use partitionmagic to resize windows and create a fat disk
[10:46] <kklaine> Help! My nvidia driver stopped working and if I try to use the nv setting gdm system totally crashes in less than a minute :(
[10:46] <Netcad> how to configure vhost based named dir?
[10:46] <RMorris85> jbmigel: boot into windows, har har har. id rather use the live cd... just use the disk manager correct? then just boot back out and i should have 3 drives correct?
[10:48] <Arcad3> pls help
[10:48] <jbmigel> RMorris85 yes if you tell it to install using part of your windows drive it should resize it for you... then you will have 3 and could reformat one to fat32
[10:48] <Arcad3> prob here
[10:48] <jbmigel> RMorris85 you still should backup first though...
[10:48] <RMorris85> jbmigel: then just exit out of the installer? or use gparted?
[10:48] <Arcad3> my site cannot be acessed via internet EX;www.my-site.co
[10:49] <Arinomi> Burn, baby, burn ^^
[10:49] <Adam> Hi. How do I remove all trace of Vim from Dapper?
[10:49] <Arcad3> any how to..
[10:49] <jbmigel> RMorris85 you know i never tried to exit the installer when its resizing windows... probably will destroy all your data... i would be very careful.
[10:50] <RMorris85> jbmigel: thats what i was thinking... should i just use the partition magic?
[10:50] <Adam> I tried "apt-get --purge remove vim.*", and apt said it was going to remove ubuntu-base* and ubuntu-minimal*, which doesn't appear to be a good idea...
[10:50] <Schalken> Adam: in senaptic select 'remove completely'
[10:50] <jbmigel> RMorris85 If you have partitionmagic i would use that, it is safe and meant for such things
[10:51] <RMorris85> jbmigel: i was wondering how its going to differenciate between the data on the drive...
[10:51] <RMorris85> ok ill boot into windows and try that
[10:51] <RMorris85> :-(
[10:51] <jbmigel> RMorris85 sorry i dont understand your differenciate question... everything should have its own partition
[10:51] <Adam> Schalken, shouldn't "apt-get --purge remove vim.*" be better?
[10:52] <Schalken> Adam: not sure what that does,
[10:52] <Adam> Schalken, essentially the same, except it appears to remove packages of which Vim is a part.
[10:53] <sioux> hi people i have a problem with my usb port on my laptop. each usb device that i connect works for a while and than crash all the system a so bad crash that i must switch off the laptop
[10:53] <Schalken> Adam: do you mean which depend on vim?
[10:53] <Adam> Schalken, yes.
[10:53] <Adam> ok, I'll just use Synaptic
[10:54] <Adam> oh, hm. Synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-base and -minimal too...
[10:54] <Adam> can I remove those packages?  or will it break something?
[10:55] <jbmigel> Adam ubuntu-base sounds kinda usefull
[10:55] <jbmigel> 8)
[10:56] <Adam> jbmigel, yeah. like, "basic" ;)
[10:56] <Adam> anyways, how do I install gvim7?
[10:56] <Adam> (on Dapper) tell me that and I'll be happy. it really shouldn't be that hard...
[10:56] <Hazarath> Connected new hard drive, formatted to ext3, not can't seem to mount it for writing.
[10:56] <Hazarath> ^now
[10:57] <sioux> whohelpme to fix a usb port problem on my laptop? :-)
[10:57] <Schalken> sioux: best post in the forums. nothing obvious comes to mind.
[10:57] <kklaine> Help me.. there's a door in my apartment that won't open.. pushing won't work. Any ideas?
[10:57] <CheekyBoinc> ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal are Metapackages ! Read the Package description ;)
[10:58] <Hazarath> How do I mount my new hard drive?
[10:58] <jbmigel> kklaine i suggest pushing harder
[10:59] <Hazarath> Sledge works too.
[10:59] <sioux> schalken the fact is once connected a usb device it works for a while and than all the system crash, no error logs or something like that
[10:59] <kklaine> I tried kicking and everything - nothing happens
[10:59] <Hazarath> kklaine, you are not playing, are ya?
[10:59] <jbmigel> kklaine it is hopeless... try windows
[11:00] <emergent> Hazarath: "mount /dev/<harddrive> <mountpoint>"
[11:00] <kklaine> Seriously though - can anyone help with my nvidia problem? :)
[11:00] <sioux> kklaine go on
[11:00] <emergent> kklaine: whats the problem?
 Help! My nvidia driver stopped working and if I try to use the nv setting gdm system totally crashes in less than a minute :(
[11:01] <PathagenX> is there no XV in the repos?
[11:01] <Adam> if I intend to use lots of KDE applications, does it make sense for me to use the standard Ubuntu?  should I get KUbuntu instead?
[11:01] <emergent> tried reinstalling the nvidia-glx package?
[11:02] <emergent> did you use the drivers from nvidia.com or from apt
[11:02] <justin_> Adam: Umm.. Linux apps are interchangeble.. except for system stuff
[11:02] <justin_> Adam: It does not matter, KDE/GNOME are simply .. window designs..
[11:02] <Adam> justin_, yeah, I'm just having some problems with some of my KDE applications
[11:02] <jbmigel> adam
[11:02] <kklaine> I installed it with the ubuntuforums guide (apt). Then one day it stopped working.. I reinstalled it but that didn't help
[11:03] <Adam> justin_, for example, Amarok won't open links in the web browser.
[11:03] <justin_> Adam: So if you have problems, go Kbuntu - use what works for you thats all ;D thats the whole point of Linux in the first place hehe.
[11:03] <justin_> Adam: Simply an option issue
[11:03] <justin_> It is probably looking for Konq, and cant find it
[11:03] <sioux> kklaine did you install kernel-headers
[11:03] <Adam> justin_, yup, that might be it.
[11:03] <kklaine> sioux: Yeah
[11:03] <Adam> still less nice than working by default.
[11:03] <Hazarath> emergent, 'mount: you must specify the filesystem type'
[11:03] <frogzoo> Adam: whichever you prefer, but it takes extra disk for both libraries
[11:04] <sioux> kk ok what kind of crash you get
[11:04] <justin_> The only KDE specific program I have ever had trouble with in another window manager was KGPG..
[11:04] <Adam> frogzoo, yeah, I noticed, though it's minor.
[11:04] <bobby> ok i am on my ubuntu load now
[11:04] <bobby> or partition
[11:04] <justin_> But then I figured out it was my video driver :P
[11:04] <shadeofgrey> is there a stable version of ubuntu that runs on a intel mac?
[11:05] <kklaine> gdm fails to start and I think it sais something like nvidia module doesn't exist
[11:05] <justin_> Does Synaptic have L.A.M.P?
[11:05] <FoxHunter> bye
[11:06] <justin_> Or do I need to install piece by piece through synaptic/
[11:06] <justin_> ?
[11:06] <bobby> when i get to a page like this which one do i download?
[11:06] <bobby> http://guifications.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[11:06] <emergent> Hazarath: you shouldn't have to if it's ext3, but the flag would be "mount -t <fstype> /dev/<drive> <mountpoint>"
[11:06] <kklaine> The nv setting makes weird white dots and "fog" on the screen and after a while, freezes totally. And no, I'm not on LSD
[11:06] <justin_> bobby: Does not matter, they are simply mirrors of the exact same file.
[11:07] <emergent> kklaine: I'm getting the exact same thing
[11:07] <kklaine> emergent: Has it just recently started happening?
[11:07] <emergent> everything in ubuntu works like a dream, except the nvidia drivers
[11:07] <justin_> kklaine: The white spots and black screen are normal - and it may take up to 10 minutes to load GDM at times.
[11:07] <Hazarath> emergent, 'mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /home/hazarath/HazExtra6GB busy'
[11:07] <emergent> well, I just yesterday migrated from freebsd on my laptop since ubuntu has better wireless support
[11:08] <justin_> Sometimes my GDM starts up in seconds, sometimes in minutes...
[11:08] <emergent> kklaine: so yes =] 
[11:08] <rogue_boy> i cannot for the like of me get wifi working or the rotating cube for the workstations
[11:08] <sioux> people do you know if there are some issuee about usb port for laptop with ubuntu?
[11:09] <emergent> Hazarath: should be in "/media" then
[11:09] <kklaine> I never got the white spots and black before - until a few days ago
[11:09] <justin_> sioux: Ubuntu is not friendly to USB 1.0 .. thats about it
[11:09] <justin_> If you have USB 2.0' you should not see any problems, but 1.0 does have its problems once in a while.
[11:09] <JonnytheRipper> is the "ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso" the standard version for normal pc's ?
[11:09] <rogue_boy> lucky i have USB 2.0
[11:09] <frogzoo> justin_: linux does usb 1.0 just fine, only depends on the chipset drivers
[11:10] <sioux> I think my laptop has usb 1.0 it is dell C600 PIII
[11:10] <justin_> frogzoo: Yeah well it is longer to explain it that way.
[11:10] <emergent> kklaine: one thing i noticed is when I install nvidia-glx, I can just edit the driver setting in xorg.conf to 'nvidia', restart X and I get the splash...everything's fine. It's not until I reboot that I get the error
[11:10] <Hazarath> emergent, Ok, that's odd... it's working, just didn't expect it to be a folder, but a drive.
[11:10] <frogzoo> justin_: cool
[11:11] <emergent> Hazarath: =] 
[11:11] <kklaine> emergent: Gotta try that ->
[11:11] <rogue_boy> i only need to get my wifi working so i can disconnect from the livingroom ethernet cable and go into my room
[11:11] <sioux> do you know if there are some fixing for usb 1.0
[11:12] <emergent> kklaine: another thing is when i reboot, you know that 'no module found' error in that 'fog' error - i found out that the glx driver was no longer installed for some reason
[11:12] <Hazarath> Reminds me... I get another error suddenly on my system... I'll like, be watching a film, and the next thing I know, Gnome goes crazy, it says stuff like 'gnome-panel has shut down un-expectantly', and 'I've noticed that that app is already running, I will not halt this' [Or somethnig to that extent] .
[11:12] <emergent> kklaine: so I had to reinstall the glx driver - it's so strange.
[11:13] <rogue_boy> i need to get my bcmwl5.inf woring so that my wifi works
[11:13] <sioux> frogzoo I have a dell PIII it could give problem with ubuntu?
[11:14] <emergent> Hazarath: quit watching so much p0rn =P haha j/k i'm not fully up to speed with ubuntu since I've been a freebsd user for so long =] 
[11:14] <rogue_boy> acer aspire 5004 wlmi is my notebook and i wrote a review on it that i can link to
[11:14] <Hazarath> emergent, it was SG1, actually. :p
[11:14] <emergent> Hazarath: but it could be a dep that you're missing
[11:14] <Adam> ok, suppose I want to create a .deb file from some source release (Vim7). what should I google for?
[11:14] <justin_> sioux: Naw, maybe your 1.0 usb, but other then that PIII's are rugged enough for Ubuntu.
[11:15] <emergent> Hazarath: or some of the software you're using is of the "unstable" breed
[11:16] <sioux> justin hummm  that looks like a ubuntu problem not kernel problem rights? so may be other distro should be ok rights?
[11:16] <Humpty-Dumpty>  please help I would like to use noteedit but it's using /dev/snd/seq device whitch is not exist. How can I create this device using alsa?
[11:17] <kklaine> emergent: Oh yeah? I'll check it out
[11:17] <Hazarath> emergent, So, it's not the Gnome shell, or something?
[11:17] <kklaine> It says "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module" when I try to reboot
[11:17] <justin_> sioux: No its a chipset problem, so its really a hardware issue.
[11:17] <emergent> kklaine: I'm going to reboot and give everything another go-over
[11:17] <justin_> sioux: USB 1.0 has problems with Windows also depending on what chipset you have.
[11:17] <emergent> kklaine: yup, that's what mine says
[11:18] <kklaine> I still do have nvidia-glx-legaxy installed though
[11:18] <mtholdenss> whats the terminal script to install xserver-xgl  ?
[11:18] <sioux> justin well this laptop on w2k is okthe usb device works ok
[11:18] <emergent> Hazarath: the terminal is pretty stable I think
[11:19] <emergent> kklaine: the answer is around here somewhere, brb
[11:19] <molkko> when apt-get installing there are suggested and recommended packages. what are they? whats the difference between the two?
[11:20] <sioux> kklaine if i well remember nvidia should also have a proprietary installer something like nvidia-installer
[11:20] <sioux> kklaine that installer works with x down
[11:21] <fyrestrtr> molkko: other pacakges that might be useful for the app you are installing. For example, documentation packages.
[11:21] <kklaine> sioux: How do I install that?
[11:21] <kklaine> Couldn't find it on apt
[11:21] <sioux> kklaine just go to www.nvidia.com and follow the instruction
[11:22] <molkko> fyrestrtr, and whats the difference between "suggested" and "recommended"?
[11:22] <kklaine> Oh, OK. I'll try it, thanks
[11:22] <gnomefreak> kklaine: nvidia-glx is in the multiverse repo
[11:23] <mtholdenss> whats the diff between sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl and apt-get install xserver-xgl  ...
[11:23] <frying_fish> mtholdenss: if you aren't already root, then you will need to use sudo
[11:23] <gnomefreak> mtholdenss: you need to do it as "root" and sudo allows you to do that
[11:23] <frying_fish> and that will only work if you have sudo permissions.
[11:23] <mtholdenss> how do i know if im root?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> does the command promtp have a # or a $
[11:24] <frying_fish> you're on a terminal right.. there should be a # at the end of the line if you are as root currently
[11:24] <frying_fish> or whoami may help
[11:24] <sioux> mtholdenss you are never root with ubuntu
[11:24] <frying_fish> sioux: thats a lie.
[11:24] <mtholdenss> i have $
[11:24] <cafuego> sioux: 'sudo -s' says otherwise
[11:24] <Ackeubu__> heeey, .. i have 3 primaries partitions. and I am working with my fourths partition. do i need to format it to make it an extended partition?? I would prefer not. but....
[11:24] <frying_fish> mtholdenss: then you are a regular user currently
[11:24] <sioux> if you wont be try sudo -s
[11:24] <frying_fish> cafuego: indeed
[11:24] <mtholdenss> ok thanks much
[11:24] <cafuego> mtholdenss: You can always type 'whoami'
[11:24] <frying_fish> or sudo -i
[11:25] <frying_fish> or sudo su
[11:25] <frying_fish> many options to get a root shell going
[11:25] <gnomefreak> sudo - should work too :)
[11:25] <cafuego> Yes. vmlinuz init=/bin/bash
[11:25] <emergent> kklaine: uhm...well...it's working now <blink> <blink>
[11:25] <sioux> yes but sudo and than the command is also ok
[11:25] <cafuego> gnomefreak: nope
[11:25] <frying_fish> if you only want to perform the one command yes.
[11:25] <gnomefreak> no?
[11:25] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Try && see :-)
[11:25] <frying_fish> gnomefreak: you get a usage.
[11:26] <zutme> Excuse me, could someone please tell me how to set the vsync when booting the livecd. Whenever x tries to start my monitor says ivalid frequency so I'm guessing this is the problem
[11:26] <kklaine> emergent: OK, good for you :)
[11:26] <emergent> kklaine: not sure dude, but I didn't install nvidia-xconfig or nvidia-settings this time around so that might have something to do with it
[11:26] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm thats not a good thing (ok ty now i just need remeber to email someone)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> emergent: on dapper you dont have to
[11:27] <emergent> gnomefreak: and it may break the driver if they are installed it seems
[11:27] <gnomefreak> emergent: it will remove the driver if installed
[11:27] <emergent> gnomefreak: ah
[11:27] <gnomefreak> emergent: all you need is nvidia-glx for nvidia to work
[11:27] <mtholdenss> last time i followed something it screwed up so im only following official ubuntu wikis
[11:28] <gnomefreak> plus restricted modules package
[11:28] <cafuego> gnomefreak: linux-restricted-drivers-$(uname -r)
[11:28] <emergent> gnomefreak: that must have been it - the first time I tried, I believe I installed the xconfig as well
[11:28] <emergent> kklaine: have either of those packages installed?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> cafuego: i added it  its still bc here (bc = before coffee)
[11:28] <eegore> here is a something I had to do to get dvd's to play proplerly. I had to soft link libdvdcss.so.2.0.8 to a link named libdvdcss.so. Is that normal?
[11:28] <frying_fish> gnomefreak: lol, what times is it where you are
[11:29] <gnomefreak> 5:30 am
[11:29] <kklaine> emergent: Yeah I have settings and xconfig apparently
[11:29] <frying_fish> east coast us?
[11:29] <frying_fish> and thats quite early to be up,
[11:29] <gnomefreak> yep :)
[11:29] <frying_fish> ahh so you have a reason.
[11:29] <Ackeubu__> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh how do i make it an extended partition.....
[11:29] <frying_fish> its 10.30 for me (UK)
[11:29] <frying_fish> Ackeubu__: using?
[11:29] <kklaine> emergent: Should I remove them?
[11:29] <emergent> kklaine: just apt-get the glx driver then and it should uninstall the settings and xconfig
[11:29] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: gparted
[11:30] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[11:30] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: i have 26gb free unallocated
[11:30] <frying_fish> Ackeubu__: it might show as an option, I only really know that you can do it with fdisk
[11:30] <kklaine> glx instead of glx-legacy?
[11:30] <frying_fish> haven't tried gparted
[11:30] <sioux> kklaine is better if you adde --purge
[11:30] <emergent> kklaine: what card are you running?
[11:30] <eegore> Did they fix that bug in the newest xorg that does not play nice with the NVidia driver?
[11:30] <kklaine> emergent: Geforce2 Ti
[11:30] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: i have 2 fat32 drives and another extended drive. and then the 26gb unallocated
[11:31] <zutme> does anyone know if you can change the vsync that you boot with on the livecd?
[11:31] <frying_fish> you might need to have that 26gb in the extended area
[11:31] <Ackeubu__> frying_fish: i cant just have 1 extended right!!!!
[11:31] <emergent> kklaine: probably legacy then - there's apparently a list of cards supported by the regular driver in that unofficial wiki
[11:31] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: Of course you can.
[11:31] <eegore> I had to down grade xorg from it in order to get xserver running again
[11:31] <pilpi> hi. in order for a group member to be capable to 'cd' to a directory owned by the group, does he also have to have access to the parent directories?
[11:31] <emergent> kklaine: you could always try both, right? =] 
[11:31] <frying_fish> the way I have mine laid out is 1 primary, and the rest are all inside an extended partition, windows was the only thing that needed to be on a primary.
[11:31] <kklaine> emergent: Yeah I suppose :)
[11:32] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: i can have more then one.
[11:32] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: right?!
[11:32] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: Yes.
[11:32] <Ackeubu__> $%(%&E#$($% gparted......
[11:33] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: As long as you create at least one logicla aprtition, you can have up to (um 32?) extendeds in that, yes.
[11:33] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: when i choose new. in the gparted menu. the only option i get is primary. I cant pick logical or extended..
[11:34] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: That's annoying. /me would just use 'fdisk'.
[11:34] <frying_fish> yeah, fdisk would be a better idea Ackeubu__
[11:35] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: aye. i tried sudo fdisk /dev/hda. and it said inable to open /dev/hda
[11:35] <mcphail> pilpi: yes, you need access to the parents
[11:35] <Ackeubu__> its in use. and cant be opended?
[11:35] <frying_fish> odd
[11:35] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: Boot from livecd
[11:35] <frying_fish> I could get at mine and its my only one
[11:35] <Ackeubu__> aye...
[11:35] <cafuego> or better yet, install cd and flip to tty2 after the disks have been detected
[11:36] <zutme> Is there a way to force the livecd to use a certain vsync?
[11:36] <rogue_boy> ok i got some functionality of wifi on my ACER
[11:36] <Ackeubu__> rogue_boy: what acer do you have?
[11:37] <rogue_boy> aspire 5004 wlmi
[11:37] <cafuego> rogue_boy: What does 'lspci' say about the wifi chip?
[11:37] <Ackeubu__> rogue_boy: okay. with  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[11:38] <Ackeubu__> ?
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> zutme: choose the safe graphics mode from the startup menu,
[11:38] <rogue_boy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=wifi+bcmwl5.inf
[11:38] <zutme> i already tried that and it did the same thing. now i am thinking it may be because I have dual monitors
[11:39] <zutme> for some reason its piutting it on 59hz which i dont think my monitor can support
[11:39] <kklaine> OK gotta visit my dad at the hospital, I'll get back to this later ->
[11:39] <rogue_boy> this is mine
[11:39] <rogue_boy> http://www.notebookforums.com/thread173001.html
[11:41] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: would it do the trick booting into the rescue root mode?
[11:42] <eegore> is there a way to increase the mouse sampling rate in XORG
[11:43] <cafuego> Ackeubu__: You'll be able to make the changes, but would then need to reboot again to make the kernel see those changes.
[11:44] <Ackeubu__> cafuego: okay
[11:45] <Yjlat> figli di puttana
[11:45] <Yjlat> si muore dalla puzza
[11:45] <Yjlat> qui
[11:45] <rogue_boy> grrrrrrrr
[11:45] <Yjlat> ce puzza
[11:45] <Yjlat> sapete perch?
[11:45] <yereth> hi all
[11:45] <Yjlat> perche siete tutti pezzi di merda
[11:45] <rogue_boy> anyone here know how to help me with my wifi card to get it to work?
[11:45] <rogue_boy> http://www.notebookforums.com/thread173001.html
[11:46] <yereth> I've done a dist-upgrade yesterday running dapper with backports and now all of a sudden I see snow in opengl games.. a lot of colourful snow through the rendering of the screen
[11:46] <yereth> anybody has any idea what it could be?
[11:47] <yereth> Or perhaps someone can tell me where I can find the history of apt?
[11:47] <drazet> 
[11:47] <emergent> yereth: wikipedia?
[11:47] <drazet> 
[11:47] <yereth> emergent: ?
[11:48] <yereth> emergent: ah, that was a bad joke
[11:48] <yereth> emergent: do you have any real suggestions?
[11:49] <frying_fish> pastebin
[11:49] <frying_fish> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:50] <emergent> yereth: you asked for the history of apt, so I was under the impression that it was a real suggestion =] 
[11:50] <emergent> yereth: in answer to the later remark: no.
[11:51] <yereth> emergent: ok.. I'll be more specific (thought you would understand from my previous remark).. I need the installation history of apt so that I can figure out what upgrade ruined my opengl rendering
[11:51] <yereth> :)
[11:51] <era86> anyone in here get their counterstrike to work :)
[11:52] <yereth> era86: I got quake3 working :)
[11:52] <era86> nice
[11:52] <cafuego> yereth: There isn't one if you used 'apt-get'.
[11:52] <era86> i am dling cs right now
[11:52] <yereth> cafuego: I used apt-get... :(
[11:52] <sagarp> i have a linux installed in vmware...i can install it on an empty partition using qemu to convert the vmware disk image and then cat that image into the partition...but does the partition have to be the same size as the image? can i cat a small image into a larger partition?
[11:52] <yereth> era86: quake3 with Urban Terror is way cooler :)
[11:53] <era86> yereth: haha ill stick to getting this to work first
[11:53] <yereth> era86: your loss ;)
[11:53] <yereth> era86: good luck with it though :)
[11:53] <lupine_85> sagarp: you can put the image into a larger partition
[11:54] <lupine_85> you just won't be able to use the extra space unless you do a resize
[11:54] <Nilvio> enyone know something program in ubuntu where i can record mouse move and clicking and then replay it ?
[11:54] <sagarp> lupine_85, will i need to expand it or something?
[11:54] <sagarp> ah
[11:54] <RamiKassab> hey guys when I turned on my laptop today to boot up ubuntu I received the following error during the bootup process: "make: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete." What does this mean exactly?
[11:54] <sagarp> lupine_85, thanks :P i wonder why i didnt think of that ..
[11:56] <rogue_boy> ok this is pissing me off i see millions of ways to install my wifi but none of them work
[11:56] <RamiKassab> any ideas guys?
[11:58] <prateekg> how to update amarok 1.4.2 to 1.4.3....is 1.4.3 available on ubuntu backports
[11:58] <Fuzz> can someone help me set up Ragnarok Online with wine!?
[12:01] <k3nobi> how do i run application automatically just after login?
[12:02] <chamo> k3nobi, are you using gnome ?
[12:02] <k3nobi> chamo: yes
[12:02] <phlaxis> system -> preferences -> sessions. In startup tab you click on add
[12:02] <phlaxis> and type the command you want to start
[12:02] <chamo> it's very easy. go to System,... ya thank phlaxis  :)
[12:02] <k3nobi> great!!
[12:02] <k3nobi> thank you
[12:03] <FirstStrike> Fuzz: RO should work some-what well out of the box. Just run the RO installer with wine and go from there.
[12:03] <yereth> RamiKassab: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/1999-January/004534.html
[12:03] <yereth> RamiKassab: read that post
[12:03] <yereth> maybe it'll help you
[12:04] <yereth> anyone running testing atm?
[12:04] <yereth> I use backports, but is testing more up to date?
[12:04] <Fuzz> FirstStrike: well ive done that, ive even gotten some dll that it needed for rag and sak, but the private client isnt running
[12:05] <RamiKassab> yereth: so I need to do this on the Makefiles for the distribution?
[12:06] <timruff> vbfd
[12:06] <FirstStrike> Fuzz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240319
[12:07] <Ackeubu_> damn everything tells me i can only have one logical partition but within that one. I can have several extended. or was it the other way around. either way im screwed.
[12:08] <lupine_85> Ackeubu_: extended partitions can have multiple logical
[12:08] <Nilvio> nobody hear me ?
[12:08] <daurn|laptop> hi all
[12:08] <Nilvio> who can see my texts ?
[12:09] <lupine_85> you can have up to 4 primary partitions; extended partitions must also be primary partitions
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> i can't get pureadmin (or pureftpd) to work
[12:09] <hantoo> i can't, Nilvio
[12:09] <phlaxis> Nilvo: Ask away!
[12:09] <Hazarath> Still having problems mounting my new drive. :/
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> when i go into pureadmin, i can start pureftpd, and can add accounts etc
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> but when i exit, and get back in
[12:09] <daurn|laptop> all settings have disappeared
[12:09] <daurn|laptop>  - what am i doing wrong
[12:10] <Hazarath> Ah, okes, duh.
[12:10] <yereth> RamiKassab: I only read what you read.. :) but it seems that could be the problem, if what they explain looks similar to you as well. So this guy gives an idea how you can easily batch the solution the previous post gave
[12:10] <Nilvio> i wanna ask did enyone know Mouse recorder/replayer for ubuntu ?
[12:11] <daurn|laptop> anyone?
[12:11] <bobby_> ok my wifi works now
[12:11] <RamiKassab> yereth: yeah noticed that... ok I appreciate the help. I'll search around a bit more and give it a try... thanks again!
[12:11] <bobby_> i hear there is an upgrade for it to see how many bars or indicator bt .....
[12:11] <Vegeta> When I mount points in ubuntu, what mount points are essential?
[12:11] <daurn|laptop> hello?
[12:12] <lupine_85> Vegeta: depends on how you want to set it up. You have to have / ...
[12:12] <brendonjt> vegeta: what do you mean essential mount points
[12:12] <lupine_85> everything else can be a part of /, or on a different partition
[12:12] <Vegeta> Yes / and swap. But expect for them.
[12:12] <lupine_85> I usually have /home (and sometimes /boot) on separate partitions
[12:12] <ubuntu321> Hi im trying to install java so i can use Frostwire. Im installing it using automatrix but it wont install?
[12:12] <Vegeta> What is /boot? Isn't it the same as /
[12:13] <lupine_85> (since they're both portable between different linux distros)
[12:13] <lupine_85>  /boot is where all the kernel images & GRUB data is stored
[12:13] <lupine_85> erm, are stored, rather
[12:13] <daurn|laptop> anyone care to help me.... at al
[12:13] <daurn|laptop> l
[12:13] <ubuntu321> Im trying to install java using automatrix but it wont install? Help?
[12:13] <Vegeta> But is I don't mount that point, does it mean that those kernel images and GRUB data wont be stored in my hd at all?
[12:13] <neutrinomass> lupine_85: You might want to consider having a /data partition instead of keeping /home around. It might break stuff when switching between distros (or upgrading, for the matter )
[12:13] <lupine_85> daurn|laptop: no idea, sorry
[12:14] <brendonjt> ubuntu321:sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[12:14] <lupine_85> neutrinomass: I've also got /media/shared
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> comeon
[12:14] <ubuntu321> cheers ill try tht
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> you gotta have SOME idea
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> :S
[12:14] <daurn|laptop> cause i'm out
[12:14] <hantoo> what was the textbased music player with playlist support again?
[12:14] <Fuzz> FirstStrike:  well ive done all it said me to do but step 7 doesnt work
[12:14] <brendonjt> ubuntu321:then after that has done type this and choose option 3 sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:14] <Fuzz> thats the one i said, the private client
[12:15] <lupine_85> but I've shared this /home between Gentoo, SuSE, three different install of Ubuntu (including breezy->dapper upgrade)... no problems
[12:15] <neutrinomass> lupine_85: Yeah... I just want to point out that importing all those .* files from distro to distro is not always a good idea (stuff breaks, from program crashing to being unable to login )
[12:15] <Vegeta> lupine_85: But is I don't mount that point, does it mean that those kernel images and GRUB data wont be stored in my hd at all?
[12:15] <Fuzz> and the private server isnt using a data folder
[12:15] <ubuntu321> brendonjt: it says E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[12:15] <neutrinomass> lupine_85: I know. I'm only saying this because you *might* run in to problems and it will be hard to track down ;)
[12:15] <lupine_85> Vegeta: it means that they're stored somewhere safe
[12:15] <lupine_85> neutrinomass: okies :)
[12:16] <brendonjt> ubuntu321:i have just PM you  hang on
[12:16] <lupine_85> Vegeta: once you've booted, you can unmount /boot (unless you want to do a kernel upgrade) and if your filesystem dies, you still have your kernel
[12:17] <Vegeta> I want 2 partitions besides / and swap. SO that in one I could install all the softwares I' going to use (like media players, text editing software and ect..) and one with the personal files. Like saved videos and saved documents...?
[12:17] <lupine_85> Vegeta: /opt for 3rd-party media players (or /use if you're talking about stuff installed with apt-get/synaptic)
[12:17] <ubuntu321> brendonjt: ok
[12:17] <lupine_85> I use /media/shared for videos, etc
[12:18] <lupine_85> erm, /usr rather
[12:18] <lupine_85> however, since /usr isn't portable between distros, it's a bit pointless keeping it on a separate partition IMO
[12:18] <Vegeta> "usr 	Secondary hierarchy" <-- What does that mean?
[12:18] <lupine_85> it means it's mounted *after* /
[12:19] <Vegeta> ok. So /home and /var is on the same hierarchy?
[12:19] <lupine_85> (fstab runs several passes - think of what woud happen if /usr was mounted before / ? ;) )
[12:19] <lupine_85> yes, if you want them to be
[12:19] <juan> !mount
[12:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:20] <lupine_85> lol
[12:20] <lupine_85> where's fdisk? ;)
[12:20] <juan> how do i auto mount directores?
[12:20] <lupine_85> juan: /etc/fstab
[12:20] <davide> hi
[12:21] <Vegeta> So where will installed softwares be stored?
[12:21] <Vegeta> I mean "extern" softwares, like the ones YOU install, which is not on ubuntu.
[12:22] <aldur2> hi guy, got a question about downloading a .lha file that I'm having problems wiht
[12:22] <aldur2> with even
[12:22] <davide> /usr/bin/ is where you have the binaries
[12:23] <ubuntu321> im trying to install java using automatrix but it wont install
[12:23] <Vegeta> davide: I'm a real newbie here, what are those /binaries? It is parts of software?
[12:25] <dibblego> what can I do about this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251944
[12:25] <davide> Vegeta: well i'm sorry i really have to disconnect right now, but just search on google for "unix file system organization" or similar
[12:25] <Vegeta> Because I want something like this: 2 GB for / (can / be on hda2 btw?), 1 GB: swap, 10 GB: For softwares that I install, 20 and 20 GB: For personal files. What do I call the mount points then?
[12:26] <davide> Vegeta: well what you could do is have your personal file in your home directory
[12:27] <|H|qK> hello all
[12:27] <Vegeta> Ok. What about softwares? I want to install them on a different partition
[12:27] <davide> vegeta: and then leave the rest to your / (it will contain the install files) and
[12:27] <Vegeta> ohh ok.
[12:27] <davide> Vegeta: and 1GB to swap
[12:27] <|H|qK> anyone here play games that are meant to go on a pc, but can be installed on linux?
[12:27] <Vegeta> Linux can't be installed in 1 partition like windows?
[12:28] <lupine_85> Vegeta: it can
[12:28] <lupine_85> if you don't mount a separate partition, it just uses /
[12:28] <davide> Vegeta: yes it ca
[12:28] <Vegeta> Will linux be installed in /??
[12:28] <lupine_85> Vegeta: yes
[12:28] <lupine_85> *Everything* is installed in /, by default
[12:29] <davide> Vegeta: this is usually the default, it uses / and swap, if you don't tell it to organize things differently
[12:29] <aldur> anyone know while firefox won't download any .lha file?
[12:29] <lupine_85> when you install stuff on a separate partition, it just moves the data that would otherwise be in another directory to there, and mounts it at that directory
[12:30] <Vegeta> hmm.. Because I have: 1 GB, 2 GB, 10 GB, 2x20 GB.   Swap: 1 GB, and / 2 GB. So I thought that I could install softwares on the 10 GB partition... But what do I call the directory then?
[12:30] <|H|qK> .lha = ?
[12:30] <yereth> anyone experience with edgy?
[12:30] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1
[12:30] <aldur> its a compress file archive
[12:30] <yereth> ah yes
[12:30] <davide> Vegeta: to organize them differently i think it would be more than ok for you if you are a newbie just to have no more than 3 partitions, / swap and /home
[12:30] <Ackeubu_> lupine_85: but i can only have one extended?
[12:30] <aldur> http://www.os4depot.net and try to download any .lha file its ust blank
[12:30] <davide> Vegeta: call it /home
[12:31] <lupine_85> Ackeubu_: you don't need more than one
[12:31] <lupine_85> an extended partition can contain any number of logical partitions
[12:31] <davide> Vegeta: sorry i gotta go... bye! PS: try search some infos googling!!!
[12:31] <Vegeta> davide: Will softwares be installed in / or /home? Because then I would need more space for /, if softwares will be installed there...
[12:31] <Vegeta> Ok :(
[12:31] <ashu> i have got problem with my OS with ubuntu installed by live cd..actually when i boot the pc with hard disk...it doesnt boot at all..and look for dhcp ..everytime i have to start my pc using the live cd..please help me and pm me if anybody knows abt this problem..TIA
[12:31] <davide> Luping:  yep it is true, but he wants to partiion it anyway...
[12:32] <lupine_85> Vegeta: you don't quite "get" linux filesystems, do you? (I'm not trying to be nasty, just trying to determine how much you know)
[12:32] <aldur> ashu sould like grub isn't installed
[12:32] <Vegeta> Yeah I have 1 extended paritition. lupine_85
[12:32] <aldur> !grub
[12:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:32] <Vegeta> lupine_85: As I say I'm a REAL newbie.
[12:32] <davide> Vegeta: they will be installed in your /
[12:32] <pilpi> Vegeta, it's not installed in /home. it is under / in one of those system directories
[12:32] <lupine_85> everything in linux -- everything -- is found off of /
[12:33] <davide> Vegeta: your /home is for your PERSONAL files...
[12:33] <aldur> Vegeta me a newbie too
[12:33] <ashu> aldur: i installed the grub ..by the live cd..but i am not sure now.how to recover it back..how to go abt it ..can u just explain me aldur?
[12:33] <lupine_85> lots of 'standard' directories come off of / -- /home is for personal, /usr for (shared user) applications, /etc for configuration, etc
[12:33] <davide> Bye everyone!
[12:33] <aldur> you can ask teh bot a question by putting a ! before the keyword on a blank line
[12:33] <Vegeta> cya
[12:33] <lupine_85> any of those directories "can" be mounted on a separate partition
[12:33] <duck1123> Would disconnecting my tv from a twinview setup cause my computer to boot into the desktop for a second and then kick me back to the login screen?
[12:33] <aldur> I'm a newboe too type !grub and follow the links
[12:34] <pilpi> Vegeta, each userr has their own directory in /home. all that goes there is the personal config dirs that applications create, and your personal files you put there. applications are _usually_ installed systemwide, i.e. not for some specific user
[12:34] <duck1123> or does anyone know what else could cause that
[12:34] <lupine_85> pilpi: depends on how you work, I guess :)
[12:34] <Vegeta> pilpi: ok..
[12:34] <pilpi> lupine_85, what does?
[12:34] <lupine_85> the loss of ~/bin was a terrible day
[12:34] <sasuke> does anyone know how to install vnc4server with out having to delete so many files?
[12:34] <aldur> !firefox
[12:34] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:34] <ashu> aldur:thanks :)
[12:35] <sasuke> !vncserver
[12:35] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[12:35] <lupine_85> single-user systems, though, you might as well have all applications in /usr, I agree
[12:35] <ashu> !grub
[12:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:35] <sasuke> !vnc4server
[12:35] <ubotu> vnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 986 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[12:35] <Vegeta> lupine_85: Wouldn't it be useles for me to create and extended partition, where I create to 10 and 2x20 GB under (which I had), but in stead use 1 partition for all the 50 GB?
[12:36] <Fuzz> uhm ive been trying to get RO to work, but the private client doesnt work, here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22991
[12:36] <aldur> vegeta use 1 50Gb partition and just use directories
[12:36] <Fuzz> would someone please take a look at it?
[12:36] <lupine_85> Vegeta: at first sight there is no real advantage to have separate partitions
[12:36] <Vegeta> ok...
[12:37] <duck1123> does anyone know where the error log file for gnome would be? I need to find out why ubuntu won't let me log in anymore
[12:37] <aldur> then if you only use 10Gb for music your not wasting 10gb on the rest of the partition
[12:37] <Vegeta> Only for / and swap there is...
[12:37] <aldur> !error
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <aldur> !errorlog
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about errorlog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <aldur> !loggs
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loggs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <sasuke> !error on gnome
[12:37] <aldur> !logs
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error on gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[12:37] <bobby_> i guess xgl doesn't work on SiS
[12:37] <lupine_85> however, if you accidentally kill your / partition, and only have the one partition, you'll regret it ;)
[12:37] <bobby_> :)
[12:37] <Vegeta> well those 10 GB was intended for Linux system files and software files. But I guess I can but those 10 GB to the /, right??
[12:38] <aldur> do your self a favour and just set up a simple system to start with.
[12:38] <phate> why is it that I have to jump through flaming hoops to get my music to play?
[12:38] <sasuke> does anyone know any python?
[12:39] <duck1123> because ubuntu doesn't come with any non-free code
[12:39] <sasuke> my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found?
[12:39] <finalbeta> phate, linux doesn't play nice with multimedia yet
[12:39] <Vegeta> aldur: Why? I only asked if using 10 GB for the /, would be a good idea. Because if system files and softwares are installed there, it wouldn't quite good to only have 2 GB for /...
[12:39] <justin_> Phate :)) - get XMMS
[12:40] <daurn|laptop> how do you see what ports are open - and being used by what program?
[12:40] <finalbeta> netstat
[12:40] <justin_> I am not sure what you have but if it is Amarok, blech.
[12:40] <phate> Finalbeta: other distros do just fine with multimedia, just not Ubuntu/Debian because someone is allergic to closed source software...
[12:40] <aldur> if your a newboe like me you'll probably feck about with the configuration several time until you get it to the way that you want so starting with a simple layout is best.
[12:41] <lupine_85> phate: with a multi-millionaire behind them, Ubuntu have to be fairly careful about what they install by default
[12:41] <lupine_85> if you've got millions in the bank, *everyone* wants to sue you
[12:41] <finalbeta> phate, that's true, and a shame really, I don't get that they want to make an end user system with easy setup and do that. But on the other hand I mean that linux and multimedia should be put in the same sentence, I still get way beter sound in windows.
[12:41] <justin_> Well Linux has always been far behind especially audio wise.. the most advanced audio editors for Linux Rezound and Ardour, are like Cool Edit 96' heh
[12:41] <Vegeta> I'm just asking if system files and installed software files will be stored in /. Yes or no?
[12:42] <lupine_85> Vegeta: yes
[12:42] <lupine_85> in /
[12:42] <Vegeta> Thank you.
[12:42] <lupine_85> the directories /etc and /usr
[12:42] <sasuke> !my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found?
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my sound card can't be found, and its preventing me of listening to music, anyone know why it can't be found? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <pilpi> Vegeta, (unless you define a mountpoint for /etc or /usr )
[12:42] <justin_> !soundcard
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <sasuke> !sound cards can't be found
[12:42] <justin_> !sound card
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound cards can't be found - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <justin_> :(
[12:42] <lupine_85> !audio
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <lupine_85> !alsa
[12:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:43] <lupine_85> :p
[12:43] <lupine_85> sound in linux is a mess
[12:43] <lupine_85> with ~7 competing sound systems, what do you expect? ;)
[12:43] <pilpi> !why I'm here or what does any of it make any difference
[12:43] <RMorris84> lupine_85: i agree and i just got here
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why I'm here or what does any of it make any difference - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <justin_> Yeah it really is, if there is one thing that needs to be improved.. its sound/audio..
[12:43] <sioux> my problem with sound is that i can't play surraund 5.1
[12:43] <phate> If they are trying to make a Linux for human beings, why don't they include support for things people do, IE listening to there current music collection that they moved over from windows
[12:43] <sasuke> lupine_85, in the start bar area, it has a speaker with the mute sign on it.
[12:44] <pilpi> phate, they do.
[12:44] <RMorris84> my laptop speakers sound like poop underwater in linux but in windows it sounds like night and day
[12:44] <justin_> Cause for all intents and purposes... Linux is still back there in the early 90's when it comes to sound, but of course I can see why -- seeing as Linux has only recently been .. widely accepted as an alternative desktop system.
[12:44] <Ackeubu_> lupine_85: yes i do.. if i want to make a primary partition to a logical or extended.. i have other os on the other partitions and i cant reformat them..
[12:44] <duck1123> phate, did you get all the packages you need from the ubuntu guide?
[12:45] <dragonrider8> hello every body
[12:45] <justin_> There is no real easy solution for Linux audio, you just have to do tinkering - some people are lucky, and it goes off without a hitch but most of the time.. its meh
[12:45] <pilpi> phate, of course if you use shitty windows/apple encoded music files which are often illegal to use in linux anyway then you'll have to install them yourself, plenty of instructions on google
[12:45] <phate> duck1123: yes, I'm really just complaining that I had to take extra time to listen to my Depeche Mode albums that took ours to rip in windows, and didn't want to have to do again...
[12:45] <Vegeta> pilpi: Ok. Because I don't wont to reinstall all the softwares, if something goes wrong with the system and I have format and reinstall the all the stuff in /. So if the softwares are stored in /, that is in the same partition, they be lost too, and I have to reinstall all the programs over again. But that wont happend if they are directed to another partition. So they will installed on /etc and /usr?
[12:45] <lupine_85> sasuke: then your sound is loaded. Now you just have to stop all those different sound systems from competing with each other
[12:45] <ayeizajedi> hey everyone
[12:46] <POVaddct> phate: many end users are ignorant like you. but distributors have to care about licenses and patented software/formats.
[12:46] <Vegeta> And I i don't specify where those 2 directories will be, they will automatically be under /?
[12:46] <lupine_85> gnome installs ESD by default, which takes over all the sound hardware
[12:46] <justin_> phate: Depeche mode? -*snicker*
[12:46] <lupine_85> Vegeta: YES
[12:46] <lupine_85> oops caps sorru
[12:46] <Vegeta> np
[12:46] <justin_> phate: As long as you stick with MP3 your fine..
[12:46] <lupine_85> erm, ogg ;)
[12:47] <phate> pilpi: I can understand WMA/and Itunes Protected, but MP3?
[12:47] <pilpi> Vegeta, I'm not sure if the programs from an old linux installation work if you reinstall / but have the old /etc, /usr
[12:47] <dragonrider8> i would like to have help about ndiswrapper and pcmcia wireless card DWL-G650
[12:47] <lupine_85> MP3 is copyrighted... you have to pay for a license for the software to be legal#
[12:47] <sasuke> lupine_85, how do i do that?
[12:47] <RMorris84> phate: im with u on that one
[12:47] <justin_> pilpi: Ahh just because the ending says MP3 ;) - does not mean it is the standard version hee - some of my MP3's do not work because of it..
[12:47] <phate> lupine_85: tell that to the internet
[12:47] <lupine_85> sasuke: I havent' used gnome for ages, sorry. It'sin System->Admin somewhere
[12:47] <justin_> Same with strictly microsoft ACPM wavs.
[12:47] <dragonrider8> i know that this card work fine on ubuntu 6.06 but only in 54Mbps mode
[12:47] <POVaddct> phate: mp3 *is* patented by thomson and fraunhofer institute
[12:47] <Vegeta> pilpi: Even if it's the same version?
[12:48] <dragonrider8> i would like to make it work in 108Mbps mode
[12:48] <lupine_85> phate: I know :). But although a 2-bit coder coder can get away with writing a technically illegal application, a $20million foundation can't
[12:48] <lupine_85> ....get away with installing it by default
[12:48] <justin_> lupine_85: In theory MP3 is copyrighted.. in theory...
[12:48] <sasuke> lupine_85, can i pm you?
[12:48] <lupine_85> erm, sorry, I'm getting in the bath in a few minutes
[12:48] <RMorris84> justin_: by who?
[12:48] <sasuke> oh ok
[12:48] <richard> help ..... Program im using says specify compression program .... can i specify file roller - if so what is the path to it?
[12:48] <lupine_85> and like I said, i've not used GNOME for ages
[12:48] <pilpi> Vegeta, I'm not sure, but software installation is much easier in linux anyway than windows, and most software is installed automatically by ubuntu without you having to do anything, so I don't think it's really a big issua
[12:48] <justin_> RMorris84: Fraufenhoffer, or something to that effect.
[12:49] <bobby_> is it possible to import bookmarks from the bookmarks.html file to linux firefox?
[12:49] <justin_> Bobby, yes...HTML is platform independant.
[12:49] <sasuke> HTML is shit
[12:49] <sasuke> go PHP
[12:49] <bobby_> how do i do it or move it?
[12:49] <lupine_85> Vegeta: if your / dies, then you lose your apt database... which means that stuff in /usr becomes only marginally useful
[12:49] <bobby_> php is nice i have been working with it
[12:49] <justin_> sasuke: PHP bookmarks? why..
[12:49] <Vegeta> pilpi: Ok, I'll just give alot of space for the /, and let the /etc and /usr stay under that directory...
[12:49] <RMorris84> sasuke: doesnt really apply to what hes talking about but ya php is the shiznit
[12:49] <dibblego> PHP is an alternative to HTML? lol
[12:49] <sasuke> no PHP is just great
[12:49] <justin_> sasuke: What the heck would be the point of using a scripting lang for book marks?
[12:49] <sasuke> html is shit
[12:49] <bobby_> php protects your code and data
[12:49] <lupine_85> php is good if you're do dynamic stuff
[12:50] <lupine_85> ...lol...
[12:50] <lupine_85> course it does
[12:50] <justin_> sasuke: PHP is not a replacement for HTML...
[12:50] <sasuke> speically the noobs that use frames
[12:50] <lupine_85> for a static page, it's a waste of space
[12:50] <justin_> *shakes head*
[12:50] <RMorris84> sasuke: if im not mistaken how to u write anything in php without html lol
[12:50] <POVaddct> sasuke: you are comparing a description language with a programming language
[12:50] <richard> is there any kind of program that will allow me to compare data change from a website over time
[12:50] <sasuke> RMorris84, you use little of php
[12:50] <sasuke> html*
[12:50] <lupine_85> RMorris84: obvious, really. You use XML + a suitable DTD... that emulates HTML...
[12:50] <justin_> sasuke: Anyways, here is my warning - dont babble.. because what you just said did not make any sense.
[12:50] <sasuke> or that
[12:50] <duck1123> XHTML
[12:50] <lupine_85> sasuke: all the display is still done using html... it's just the content that's generated dynamically
[12:50] <pilpi> sasuke, really. ever heard that PHP is used mostly for producing html? :)
[12:51] <dibblego> what ever happened to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:51] <richard> lol
[12:51] <Vegeta> lupine_85: So it would be best if I create another partition for /etc and /usr, or use an extended partition, where I have /home /etc and /usr???
[12:51] <dibblego> PHP is a pile of crap, anyone who has used functional languages will attest to that, but it's all off-topic anyway
[12:51] <RMorris84> lupine_85: ive always used html in my php... im not the worlds greatest programmer but i can do php basics for what i need.. didnt even know xml was an option.. lol
[12:52] <justin_> bobby_: Anyways, simply export your bookmarks - and then place them in a directory on your linux machine, and through firefox go to your bookmark manager and import them.
[12:52] <RMorris84> !offtopic
[12:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:52] <pilpi> Vegeta, you can't have two directories mounted on the same partition like that
[12:52] <bobby_> ok i got it
[12:52] <bobby_> i figured out to just import them from the file
[12:52] <lupine_85> pilpi: with logical partitions inside the extended one, you can
[12:52] <justin_> bobby_: good
[12:52] <lupine_85> Vegeta: personally I'd just stick with having /home on a separate partion
[12:52] <pilpi> lupine_85, well then they're different partitions, not one logical partition
[12:52] <lupine_85> and leave the rest on the / artition
[12:53] <lupine_85> pilpi: true. Note that he said "use an extended partition..."
[12:53] <timruff> hello
[12:53] <lupine_85> now I must get in the bath
[12:53] <lagarto> alguien habla espaol?????
[12:53] <bobby_> si por que?
[12:53] <justin_> lagarto: Umm nope.. I think they have diff lang rooms though
[12:53] <lagarto> me puedes ayudar??
[12:53] <pilpi> lupine_85, oh, yeah. right :)
[12:53] <RMorris84> anybody got a spca5xx webcam to work in ubuntu?
[12:54] <bobby_> the font on these are so much bigger
[12:54] <bimberi> !es
[12:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:54] <dibblego> lagarto, #ubuntu-es
[12:54] <Vegeta> pilpi: Can the / partition be an extended one? Where I can place the /etc and /usr. So that if / dies it wont effect /etc and /usr?
[12:54] <lagarto> thanx!!!
[12:54] <justin_> bobby_: Yeah, it takes some time toget adpated to the Linux fonts, as compared to the windows ones.
[12:54] <bobby_> it is the same resolution i think
[12:54] <bobby_> damn it
[12:55] <phate> lupine_85: well if they are a $20mil foundation why don't they just buy a license?
[12:55] <justin_> bobby_: Yeah, again simply a difference in fonttypes.
[12:55] <bobby_> i wonder if i can change it to match
[12:55] <justin_> bobby_: Sure you can always tweak with cairo
[12:55] <justin_> I left mine as is.. Windows has some oogly fonts.
[12:55] <bobby_> what does windows use by default?
[12:56] <justin_> No clue, I have not used windows since 3.1..
[12:56] <bobby_> i have but i am just now learning linux
[12:56] <bobby_> i feel it's a good idea
[12:56] <pilpi> Vegeta, yeah you can create an extended partition, then create logical partitions inside that extended one, then mount /home on one of them and / on one of them for example
[12:56] <justin_> Im sure a quick google will tell you that
[12:56] <bobby_> dual boot
[12:57] <justin_> bobby_: At the end of the day, its not a competition heh, it's whatever works best for you - for me personally, Linux does what I need quicker then the others - so yup.
[12:58] <phate> Please pardon my ranting, I didn't mean to cause an issue :P
[12:58] <bobby_> yeah
[12:58] <bobby_> linux uses my 64 bit better
[12:58] <bobby_> and i need to learn it to get hired for more stuff
[12:58] <RMorris84> im looking for a way to get rid of my windows partition.. :) but i need to save some files off of it before i do it, i have like 10g free on the same partition, whats the easiest way to make a fat32 partition off that to save some files so i dont lose, so i can then reformat what is left on the windows partition....? ;)
[12:59] <bobby_> i believe so
[12:59] <justin_> bobby_: There you go, anyways - few weeks you'll be all good, windows is even a pain during the first few weeks when you learn it.
[12:59] <Vegeta> pilpi: Well I was more thinking of 1 extended partition (where I have /, /etc and /usr) and 1 primary partition (where I have /home). But since I don't know how much space /etc nad /usr will be needing, I geuss I just leave /etc and /usr under the / partition. Wouldn't that be better?
[12:59] <justin_> RMorris84: Why do you need a FAT32 partition to save the files on your windows partition?
[12:59] <justin_> RMorris84: You can just copy the files to your Linux disk..
[12:59] <bobby_> yeah
[01:00] <bobby_> first was unix on mac's years ago
[01:00] <bobby_> then windows 3.1
[01:00] <bobby_> i hated windows 95 at first
[01:00] <bobby_> hated it so bad
[01:00] <bobby_> now i am ready for linux
[01:00] <bobby_> and i got a head start
[01:00] <RMorris84> justin_: well yea, but theres a problem i forgot to mention, i already filled up this partition so thats why im doing this... (i gotta lotta music...)
[01:00] <pilpi> Vegeta, probably. it's not much use to have them separate unless you really know what you're doing anyway. I don't :)
[01:01] <justin_> RMorris84: Haha, well you could always attach the drive to your machine - and simply mount it as a an msdos drive
[01:01] <justin_> -a
[01:02] <juan> !fstab
[01:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[01:02] <Vegeta> hehe. And I'm a huge newb since I JUST started using linux :P. Btw is the / supposed to be on hda1 or is it unimportant where it will be?
[01:02] <justin_> RMorris84: Well either way you will either have to mount it--- or delete everything, because of course you cannot change partition types, and save data
[01:02] <justin_> You could always upload your files to filefront, and then download them to your new EXT2 formatted disk :)
[01:02] <RMorris84> justin_: i got like 25 gig over there... not much i need to keep... is it possible to do what i want? and i am in the process of getting a 3.5"disk case that turns it into usb2.0 but i wanna do this for the time being
[01:02] <neenaoffline> my gdm themed greeter crashes . I edited my gdm.conf-custom by hand because of some other reason , what do I do now?
[01:02] <justin_> RMorris84: Say again exactly what you have in mind, because my text buffer is very small.
[01:03] <juan> whats the line i should use to mount a fat partition with rights to edit it?
[01:03] <juan> !fat
[01:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:03] <justin_> r+w
[01:03] <RMorris84> ok i have a windows partition on about 25 gig with 10g free, i want to make a fat32 on it to put files that i need to keep so i can wipe windows off
[01:04] <Ackeubu_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
[01:04] <RMorris84> but my partition i have ubuntu on is almost full so i cant put it here lol
[01:04] <justin_> RMorris84: Partition magic.
[01:04] <Vegeta> pilpi?
[01:04] <Ackeubu_> I cant find my partitions.. in media. i have sda3..  when i do df i dont get sda3...
[01:04] <neenaoffline> RMorris84: gparted ?
[01:04] <justin_> RMorris84: But you will more then likely end up, deleting all of the disk data... - so your pretty much out of luck I'd say
[01:05] <RMorris84> hmm so i should transfer it off to an external drive then do that...
[01:05] <justin_> RMorris84: Yeah, that would be prudent.. - because although possible, you will most likely end up losing all your data if you do not back it.
[01:06] <Vegeta> Is the / supposed to be on hda1 or is it unimportant where it will be, or is swap supposed to be on hda1?
[01:06] <justin_> Vegeta: HDA1 should be /
[01:06] <justin_> Swap can be anywhere
[01:06] <Vegeta> ok
[01:06] <pilpi> Vegeta, depends on your system. probably it's good to have it on some bootable drive but I guess in modern machines they're all bootable
[01:07] <pilpi> of course if you still happen to drag alonw windows like some do, it tends to be on hda1
[01:07] <justin_> My 3.2 gig, is a dedicated swap station :))
[01:07] <pilpi> although not necessarily
[01:07] <Vegeta> pilpi: nahh I eliminated windows :P
[01:07] <RMorris84> justin_: tell me this, if i were to say want to redo my whole disk... how would i go about backing up what i have in linux... bc i might just do that, if i can transfer what i have off of here completely off to an external drive, i would like to setup ubuntu solely on my laptop
[01:07] <pilpi> we'll be seeing you around a lot then :))
[01:07] <Vegeta> hahaha yeah I guess so ;)
[01:08] <Ackeubu_> gparted shows that i have my ubuntu on /dev/sda5 i have an other ext3 on /dev/sda4. but i cant mount it... i think...
[01:08] <RMorris84> justin_: i would like to be able to keep my xorg conf also is that possible?
[01:08] <justin_> RMorris84: Same way you back up any other disk - copy the files to a CD, or other external media ;)
[01:08] <justin_> RMorris84: Yes - /etc/X11/xorg.conf - save it outside the rest of your back up, and then overwrite the new one when you re-install.
[01:09] <justin_> RMorris84: But that is to say, that your laptop has the same video card type heh... if not you should only save the options parts, and let Ubuntu find the right driver - and tinker as needed.
[01:09] <Enselic> Has anyone here ever had a problem with gdp passing the path of the executable as the first program argument?
[01:09] <ayeizajedi> anyone succeed in getting a freecom DVB adapter working in ubuntu ?  im unable to build the channel list.. anyone with ideas ?
[01:10] <justin_> RMorris84: Oh and as for backing up - you really only need to backup what you cannot restore in Synaptic... mostly /home/~user/alldirs
[01:11] <Ackeubu_> how would i find "/dev/sda4" to add it to grub?
[01:11] <RMorris84> justin_: and would i still have all my programs that i didnt get in synaptic?
[01:11] <justin_> Even the hidden ones, in thunar (XFCE) its ctrl-h - I am not sure how you display hidden files in the other file managers, but you want to back up all the .program - config files also.
[01:11] <justin_> RMorris84: Nope, but those are in ---- /usr/local/bin.
[01:12] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, what have you got on that device?
[01:12] <justin_> They may lack libs when you re-install however, add as needed through synaptic.
[01:12] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, or partition I mean
[01:12] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: another linux distro im trying to get running
[01:13] <justin_> RMorris84: P.s you should look around synaptic, I am sure there is backup programs for linux ;)
[01:13] <RMorris84> justin_: good call
[01:13] <justin_> I am not sure, because I only back documents to CD
[01:13] <bobby_> is there a wifi bar upgrader that tells me on the menu next to the battery how strong the signal is?
[01:13] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, see what you got in /boot/grub/menu.lst and copy based on that another entry there
[01:15] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: thats the issue.... hehe ill show you
[01:16] <neenaoffline> I edited my gdm.conf-custom by hand because of some reason , my gdm themed greeter crashes now . what do I do?
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: this gives me stomack aches.. title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-7-386
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> root		(hd0,4)
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-7-386 root=UUID=7ccaa194-f407-47c2-a90b-ac9e2c43f491 ro quiet
[01:16] <bohemian> did you back up your gdm.conf-custom ?
[01:16] <Ackeubu_> hows that supposed to help me..
[01:17] <neenaoffline> bohemian: no
[01:17] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: my root should be (hd0,2).. and i have my boot/kernel. but root /dev/sda4 ?!?!?!? is the best i can come up with
[01:18] <Ackeubu_> doesnt feel right though... never seen a /dev/sda* in a grub...
[01:18] <Subhuman> Ackeubu_, if you have  a sata drive, then sda is no problem
[01:18] <pilpi> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-k7
[01:18] <pilpi> root            (hd0,4)
[01:18] <pilpi> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash
[01:18] <pilpi> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-k7
[01:18] <pilpi> savedefault
[01:19] <neenaoffline> how do I fix it ? it's only the themed greeter that crashes ...
[01:19] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, how's customizing that?
[01:20] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, run fdisk on /dev/hda and see there what partition it actually is /dev/sda*
[01:20] <Ackeubu_> pilpi: better but.. aint gonna use initrd. om not sure about ro whats that and when to use? okay i try fdisk again. i cant run it in ubuntu though. its weird
[01:21] <Ackeubu_>  sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[01:21] <Ackeubu_> Unable to open /dev/hda
[01:21] <Ackeubu_> ???
[01:21] <Ackeubu_> im running acer
[01:21] <pilpi> Ackeubu_, I'm not sure if all you got there should be umounted first
[01:22] <Ackeubu_> pilPI OKAY
[01:22] <Ackeubu_> pilpi thanks ill give it a try
[01:27] <bohemian> my lock session icon in gnome disappeared when I updated to dapper. anyone know how I can get it back?
[01:29] <neutrinomass> bohemian: you mean the icon when logging out ?
[01:29] <Subhuman> bohemian, right click the panel, click Add to Panel, and find it in the list.
[01:29] <Subhuman> its called lock screen by memory
[01:30] <bohemian> it's not there
[01:30] <bohemian> i looked already
[01:30] <bohemian> it's not there
[01:30] <juan> is it possible to run 1 program across multiple sessions e.g have the same gaim running in gnome and kde at the same time
[01:31] <bohemian> the only one I have is 'quit'
[01:31] <jayt> audio issue for music  when logging in but I don't have any sound in chromium any ideas (I have set the volume up on chromium inside the game for both music and sound effects)
[01:32] <TEN> Has anyone managed to get http://dl.bytesex.org/cvs-snapshots/xawtv-20060816-102024.tar.gz compiled? Contrary to documentation, ./configure needs to be created autogen.sh - and then seems to like neither gcc-4.0.3 nor 3.4 (claims they would not build binaries).
[01:32] <Godfather> g' day guys
[01:33] <Godfather> i have seriuos problem
[01:33] <TEN> BTW why don't the installers created a symlink /usr/bin/gcc to the actual versions? Pretty much every Makefile in existence seems to expect this...
[01:33] <TEN> -d
[01:33] <bobby_> i need different resolution
[01:33] <Godfather> we have 4 laptop
[01:33] <bobby_> my monitor is widescreen
[01:33] <Godfather> and 1 connection
[01:34] <Godfather> so one of us works as server
[01:34] <Godfather> and the othe are connected to him by wireless
[01:34] <Godfather> now
[01:34] <Godfather> if i run windows there's no problem
[01:34] <piratepenguin> anyone using Xen to run a modified gnu/linux distro inside ubuntu (e.g. if you don't have vitalisation support in your cpu)?
[01:34] <Godfather> but if i'm under ubuntu
[01:34] <qK_> anyone know of a reall good music organizer program?
[01:34] <Godfather> i can see the net
[01:34] <Godfather> i configure it
[01:35] <RMorris84> Godfather: u need a router dude
[01:35] <piratepenguin> qK_: amaroK, banshee ?
[01:35] <jayt> !wireless > Godfather
[01:35] <lupine_85> qK: amarok :)
[01:35] <Godfather> i got the ip
[01:35] <lupine_85> RMorris84: probably not. More likely just a bit of tweaking required
[01:35] <Godfather> it tells me the it is connected at the net
[01:35] <Godfather> but i can't surf on internet
[01:35] <lupine_85> Godfather: can you ping the gateway IP ?
[01:36] <lupine_85> e.g. does ping <ip> return any error message?
[01:36] <Godfather> no in this moment
[01:36] <Godfather> now i'm under winshit
[01:36] <lupine_85> lol
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> godfather, please avoid using the enter key for punctuation.  All on one line makes it easier on the other 857 people in the channel
[01:37] <lupine_85> if you can ping the gateway under linux, then either you don't have a default route set, or your DNS isn't configured properly
[01:37] <lupine_85> route is easy to check - "ip route show" -- if there's no line with "default" then create one: "sudo ip route add default via <ip> dev <interface>"
[01:38] <maploin> is there a way to find out what files a specific package downloads?
[01:38] <lupine_85> DNS - if it's that, you'll be able to ping IP addresses, but not domain names, of things on the Internet. Just add a working DNS server to /etc/resolv.conf
[01:42] <jayt> starting chromium from the command line I get this : Could not load alAttenuationScale        any ideas
[01:42] <qK_> anyone here ever installed UT2k4 or FPS games on Linux?
[01:42] <smacky_wolf> Can someone possibly tell me how to use xgl, so I can get all the funky stuff I;ve been hearing so much about?
[01:43] <lupine_85> !xgl
[01:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:43] <qK_> if you have ati, good luck intalling it
[01:43] <qK_> smacky_wolf:  do you have ati or nvidia?
[01:43] <smacky_wolf> qK, NV
[01:43] <qK_> good
[01:43] <jayt> smacky_wolf, head on over to #ubuntu-xgl and they will help you with it, it is beta software cheers
[01:44] <qK_> :)
[01:44] <smacky_wolf> jayt, thanks <3
[01:44] <orbin> jayt: installed via repos?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: I installed Sauerbratten, worked fine
[01:44] <jayt> orbin, not in dapper
[01:44] <qK_> Jack_Sparrow:  what?
[01:44] <jayt> orbin, for my own issue yes
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: I have Serious Sam for MS and I used the Loki INstallers to get it running under linux
[01:45] <skar> hi, i'm using breezy , is there a way to view streaming windows media on ubuntu/firefox?
[01:45] <frogzoo> xgl runs fine in dapper
[01:45] <jayt> !restricted > skar
[01:45] <orbin> jayt: i presume the game dowsn't load
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Sauerbratten is free fps for linux
[01:45] <jayt> orbin, it does but there are no sounds
[01:45] <qK_> Jack_Sparrow:  oh well im trying to run like UT2k4 so im wondering
[01:46] <jayt> orbin, I did it form the command line to see what error it would throw
[01:46] <jayt> skar, read the message from the bot
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Windows version under WIne or a Linux Version
[01:47] <qK_> oh yea doesnt UT2k4 ahve a linux instalation?
[01:47] <FirstStrike> yes, it does. it's on the cd/dvd.
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: http://sauerbraten.org/      http://liflg.org/?catid=6
[01:48] <nikin> i have a question much like that... i have installed Wolfenstein ET .. it starts fine... but i dont see nothing just a black screen... i hear the music and the sound of the menu when i move the mouse, but dont see nothing on the screen
[01:48] <skar> jayt: thanks
[01:49] <skar> jayt: will look into it and come back
[01:49] <jayt> skar, your welcome
[01:49] <qK_> nikin:  yea my buddy installed UT manually and it heard sound and everyhting but it didnt show up, just a black screen
[01:50] <qK_> so i was wondering if it was een compatible, then io heard UT has a linux installation
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Yes it works
[01:50] <FirstStrike> If you look on the UT2k4 cd/dvd (whichever version you have) there should be a file named (if my memory serves correct) linux-installer.sh
[01:51] <FirstStrike> you just open a command prompt, cd to the directory and type sh linux-installer.sh (or whatever it's named)
[01:51] <FirstStrike> and it goes from there
[01:51] <qK_> oh aha!
[01:51] <qK_> i see it :) <3
[01:51] <qK_> um do what
[01:51] <FirstStrike> open a command prompt/terminal
[01:52] <qK_> k
[01:52] <beachbuddah> gm (EDT) all
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: I commend your patience
[01:52] <qK_> Jack_Sparrow:  ok
[01:52] <FirstStrike> cd to the directory it's in (for example: cd /dir/blah/whatever)
[01:52] <qK_> oops wrong person
[01:52] <qK_> ok done
[01:52] <FirstStrike> Jack_Sparrow: I'm feeling nice right now. It'll pass :P
[01:53] <FirstStrike> type: sh linux-installer.sh
[01:53] <mtholdenss> i never knew blender 3D could be so powerful after watching a few vids....
[01:53] <FirstStrike> Those 3d modelling programs confuse the heck out of me. I'll never be able to use them.
[01:53] <nikin> blender is powerfull like a nuclearpowerplant :D
[01:53] <nikin> blender rules!
[01:54] <qK_> ugh
[01:54] <qK_> i forget the cpmmands for cd'ing
[01:54] <qK_> help
[01:54] <FirstStrike> ....
[01:54] <FirstStrike> cd is the command
[01:54] <bohemian> 'cd'
[01:54] <nikin> cd
[01:54] <mtholdenss> yeh blender is awesome...
[01:54] <Jenga> Is sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal the same as hitting reload in Synaptic or do you need to run one before the other?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: cd means change directory
[01:55] <FirstStrike> Jack_Sparrow: Yes..I know.
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Sorry tab by mistake
[01:55] <nikin> Jenga: thesame
[01:55] <orbin> Jenga: sudo apt-get update is equivalent to hitting reload.
[01:55] <Jenga> thanks
[01:55] <qK_> i forget, used linux months ago i forget how to navigate to a cd
[01:55] <orbin> Jenga: NB: update, not upgrade
[01:55] <FirstStrike> it should be somewhere such as /media/cdrom
[01:55] <FirstStrike> so cd /media/cdrom
[01:55] <nikin> Orbin you are right...
[01:56] <sioux> hi who show me a good guide for install 3d on ati?
[01:56] <FirstStrike> if you have mulitple drives then it might be something like cdrom0
[01:56] <Jenga> : Yes sorry. I meant update. Brain fart
[01:56] <FirstStrike> !ati
[01:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati > sioux
[01:57] <orbin> jayt: well it's either something to do w/ openal w/ever that is, or something w/ the way ubuntu's sound system works: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6558
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> heelp. Ive tried to find my gentoo partition for grub... im on an Acer. My gentoo partition is on dev/sda4. I tried to add it to grub like this:
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> root (hd0,3)
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.17-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/sda4 but i get the error root cant be found.. and im stuck..
[01:57] <FirstStrike> !pastebin > Ackeubu_
[01:57] <jayt> orbin, thanks I'll have a look now
[01:57] <sioux> thanks
[01:57] <Ackeubu_> FirstStrike: thanks
[01:57] <orbin> jayt: NB: the guy didn't find a solution ... besides moving back to suse :-/
[01:57] <jayt> orbin, not an option ;-)
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Ackeubu_,  check that sda4 really is the right drive for your root partttiion.
[01:58] <bam_> hi.I am having a little problem with "dpkg". Whenever I try to install anything it gives me an error saying "dpkg: error processing kubuntu (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[01:58] <nikin> !intel
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <nikin> lol
[01:58] <orbin> ...and that's a really old thread (filed under warty) ... maybe check if someone filed a bug on it
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Ackeubu_,  and whats the filesstem  on the drive (thats the 2 main things that may be the issue)
[01:58] <bam_> it works when I try to remove or purge anything, but not when I try to install anything.
[01:58] <bam_> any ideas?
[01:58] <sioux> matrox????  now 3d works with matrox too? humm interesting
[01:58] <qK_> omg, i totally forget how to navigate to the dman file
[01:59] <jayt> bam_, put your "/etc/apt/sources.list" in paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[01:59] <FirstStrike> qK_: we've all told you several times. perhaps it's time to google 'how to cd to a file' :)
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> qK_: Post your fstab to the pastebin   gedit  /etc/fstab   (sudo cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.backup to make a backup)
[02:00] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: its ext3
[02:00] <FirstStrike> he doesn't need to modify his pastebin Jack_Sparrow
[02:00] <FirstStrike> er
[02:00] <FirstStrike> fstab
[02:00] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: in gparted i set the drive to boot as well
[02:00] <xhaan> hmm.. it seems sometimes when i get a software update notice while im doing something my system can hang... whats up with that?
[02:00] <bam_> I have all the ubuntu server and a couple of other sites there. I can use "Synaptic" to install, but not dpkg.
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> I know I was just trying to locate his cdrom
[02:01] <FirstStrike> if he only has one cdrom drive then it'll be /media/cdrom
[02:01] <Jenga> One more question. In the preset search filters in Synaptic, what's the difference between Upgradable and Upgradable (Upstream)
[02:01] <Ackeubu_> Dr
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike:  We would hope...
[02:01] <driz__> does anyone know how to get gnome-terminal to use ansi fonts so bitchx irc client looks how its supposed to????
[02:01] <sioux> Is this card ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) ok for 3d?
[02:01] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: gparted also shows it as dev/sda4. filesystem is ext3 and flags is boot
[02:01] <bam_> I posted it under the name "bam_"
[02:01] <FirstStrike> I really don't know how much clearer I can be.
[02:01] <Czar005> When I restart apache2, I see this: httpd (pid 7969) already running   and the changes ive made don't take. Whats going on?
[02:02] <FirstStrike> Hmm..maybe.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Not much other than keystroke by k e y s t r o k e
[02:02] <justin_> Anyone know of any good Ubuntu games?
[02:02] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: it doesnt show any mount point when im in ubuntu
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: FPS or ?
[02:03] <sioux> Can use this video card ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) for 3d desktop?
[02:03] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: No matter what genre
[02:03] <lupine_85> Czar005: sudo killall apache2; /etc/init.d/apach3 start (probably)
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: My wife likes frozen bubble, I like Sauerbraten
[02:03] <lupine_85> or kill 7969 I guess
[02:03] <bam_> jayt,any ideas?
[02:03] <maploin> does anybody know how i can see what files a package contains? and where did it get them from initially? like a link?
[02:03] <FirstStrike> qK_: Open a terminal. Type: cd /media/cdrom and press enter. Then type: dir It should list the contents of the cd (theoretically)
[02:03] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Synaptic?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: For bubble yes
[02:04] <lupine_85> maploin: dpkg -L <package> will tell you all the installed files
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_:  http://sauerbraten.org/
[02:04] <qK_> ok done
[02:04] <lupine_85> as for where they come from... just browse the repo with a browser
[02:04] <FirstStrike> qK_: do you see a list of files in the terminal?
[02:04] <driz__> does anyone know how to get gnome-terminal to use ansi fonts so bitchx irc client looks how its supposed to????
[02:04] <qK_> yes
[02:05] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[02:05] <Healot> hey, if you installed gnome, the basics are in the documentation
[02:05] <FirstStrike> qK_: is something along the lines of linux-installer.sh there?
[02:05] <lupine_85> e.g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:05] <qK_> yes
[02:05] <maploin> lupine_85: no, i mean the containing files, something like a link for each file
[02:05] <FirstStrike> qK_: type: sh linux-installer.sh
[02:05] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Speaking of which, last one since it goes off topic - but are you aware if Counterstrike, still requires keys and all that nonsense to play?
[02:05] <lupine_85> maploin: maybe in the Packages.gz ?
[02:06] <lupine_85> the .deb file itself is stored in /var/apt/cache, IIRC
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: No idea.. Never played it
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> Ackeubu_,  under ubuntu, fdisk -l, dosent show the partition?
[02:06] <lupine_85> or /var/cache/apt
[02:06] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[02:07] <Neo8750> !cups > Neo8750
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Well done....
[02:07] <M3G4crux> HI
[02:08] <M3G4crux> how can I set the console resolution to a higher one, some time ago when I used Debian I only had to edit the boot parameter of the kernel, but now it seems it just ignores it
[02:08] <FirstStrike> Yes..I have filled my quota for the year.
[02:08] <FirstStrike> Back to being grumpy.
[02:08] <jayt> bam_, you have plf and lots of _none_ ubuntu repos in there - something is not right there - I see bleeding edge wine I would not be comfortable with that
[02:08] <Hazarath> Ok, new problem... had a hard drive connected to my system, couldn't get ntfs to write, so... formatted, now the dive still won't write, and it's under vfat.
[02:08] <M3G4crux> I had tried this one but I am not sure -> video=intelfb:mtrr,noaccel:3,ywrap,1920x1200-32@60
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Not having finished my first cup of coffee I would have probably trout slapped him
[02:08] <bam_> ok,I will look at it.
[02:09] <FirstStrike> haha
[02:09] <qK_> lol Jack_Sparrow
[02:09] <juan> is there a reason a script cant be marked as executable?
[02:09] <lupine_85> juan: on a ro filesystem?
[02:09] <FirstStrike> I haven't gone to bed yet.
[02:09] <bam_> One more thing, "type" doesnt work on my pc...any ideas?
[02:09] <mtholdenss> how to upgrade to blender 2.42 i got 2.41
[02:09] <lupine_85> just bash <scriptname>
[02:09] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: right it doesnt
[02:09] <bam_> does it have something to do with this?
[02:09] <mtholdenss> how to upgrade to blender 2.42 i got 2.41
[02:09] <M3G4crux> can anyhone help me with the resolution of the console?
[02:09] <Hazarath> Need to write to my vfat drive, writing doesn't work currently.
[02:09] <lupine_85> !blender
[02:09] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[02:10] <juan> nope i just added a folder so the system cant be ro
[02:10] <jayt> orbin, okay playing with al libs now - will let you know if I kludge it into working
[02:10] <qK_> how do you unmopunt and remount a cdrom?
[02:10] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: but sudo fdisk -l does ;)
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bam_: Please tell me that was a joke.. :)
[02:10] <bam_> ....it wasent?
[02:10] <bam_> should it have been?
[02:11] <bam_> or was that a complete newb question...?
[02:11] <FirstStrike> qK_: with the umount and mount commands
[02:11] <Ackeubu_> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22994
[02:11] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, can you help me?
[02:11] <FirstStrike> qK_: type man umount and man mount in a terminal for a description of the commands and how to use them.
[02:11] <jhasse> How can i change the design of the checkboxes in firefox to the standard human theme?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[02:12] <tuxlifan> Hello, is there a reason why /etc/login.defs was changed to have ENV_SUPATH with /usr/local/(s)bin before /usr/(s)bin ?
[02:12] <knoppix> need help with sahring usb adsl modem connection over local network
[02:12] <jolt> Anyone know how to get Edgy to stop trying to restart terminal sessions when logging in single user mode?
[02:12] <mtholdenss> shortcut to take screenshot?
[02:12] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, it's readable. Just can't write, or enable write for that matter: it'll let you check 'write', but won't keep it.
[02:12] <mtholdenss> !sceenshot
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sceenshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <mtholdenss> !screenshot
[02:13] <ubotu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr]  button or the file -> acquire menu in the Gimp. Screenshots can be posted on the !pastebin
[02:13] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: did you setup your fstab properly?
[02:13] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Pardon? Wassat?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> bam_:  When someone tells you to go to a terminal and "type blah blah...  Type is NOT a command... it is what you do
[02:13] <FirstStrike> hmm, i wonder if there's an !fstab
[02:13] <Hazarath> Press 'any key'.
[02:13] <FirstStrike> !fstab
[02:13] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:13] <FirstStrike> woo
[02:14] <jhasse> How can i change the design of the checkboxes in firefox to the standard human theme?
[02:14] <bam_> no...not that. I mean when I am looking for a program...I try for example "type kde" and it gives me all the synapsis with "kde"...that doesnt work. HEHE
[02:15] <bam_> that WOULD be a really bad mistake to do...hehe
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> jhasse: system > preferences > themes
[02:15] <Ackeubu_> Hey you guys. im going crazy .. my gentoo boot on sda4 doesnt work. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22996
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> bam_: Forgive me, but I hope you understand how I interpreted your statement
[02:15] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, the drive is on my desktop, and I can read what's in it, it just won't accept my trying to change permissions... I can change 'read' and 'exicute', but not 'write'.
[02:15] <jayt> bam_, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop < that may help
[02:15] <Hexidigital_> jhasse: sorry, i misread that
[02:16] <jhasse> Hexidigital: ok
[02:16] <bam_> its ok, I should have formulatet it differently.
[02:16] <bam_> jayt, I will try.
[02:16] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: type gedit /etc/fstab in a terminal and put it on pastebin then send us the link
[02:16] <qK_> < installing UT2004
[02:16] <Hexidigital_> jhasse: i think there's an extension for that, but i'm not sure...
[02:16] <jhasse> Hexidigital_: thx, i will look for it
[02:17] <bennou> bonjour tout le monde
[02:17] <bam_> oh,I have kubuntu-desktop already. Thats why I am a bit surprised about the whole "type" problem.
[02:18] <Hazarath> Pastebin is like... dead.
[02:18] <bennou> oops, i'm on an english chat, so my english is so poor taht i have to go...
[02:18] <justin_> Who told me about Saurebraten?
[02:18] <Furry> j
[02:18] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: pops right up for me.
[02:19] <jayt> Hazarath, here is a pastebin that works paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> justin_: me
[02:19] <FirstStrike> There's really no servers for it though.
[02:20] <FirstStrike> I was saddened when I went to play it.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: I just play in single user mode against the pc..
[02:21] <FirstStrike> Ehh doesn't do it for me.
[02:21] <Hazarath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22997
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: http://www.cubeengine.com/forum.php4?action=display_thread&thread_id=12  perm server info
[02:22] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, got the code?
[02:22] <afd_> dapper > edgy. Does the upgrade work? Should I try it? Is edgy stable for daily use?
[02:23] <Losty1981> for some reason my wireless card is no longer being recognized.....where do I look to configure?
[02:23] <sioux> afd if i were you i will wait
[02:23] <juan> i have a shell script run_aspell.sh but i cant give it permision to be run, i can edit rights i can add files to the dir but why cant i make it executable?
[02:23] <TheCobra> hi
[02:24] <TheCobra> somebody has exp. with dualscreen
[02:24] <hoehave1> does anyone here use ubuntu 6.10 knot 2 that knows how to fix a firefox error that, when i go to myspace, firefox closes.it started closing when i tryed to sing in but i installed some stuff(dont know what)and not it just wont show up when i try to view my profile
[02:24] <hoehave1> like i said firefox closes
[02:24] <driz__> Does anyone know how to get ansi fonts to work for gnome terminal??? im tryign to make bitchx client look how its supposed to
[02:24] <hoehave1> wow that was kinda long....my bad
[02:24] <Hazarath> TheCobra, I herd it's not very nice.
[02:24] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: change the end of /dev/sda1 to iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0 and save it (you'll need to sudo gedit /etc/fstab in order to overwrite the file)
[02:24] <TheCobra> hazarath it works but
[02:25] <TheCobra> I cannot move a screen from screen 1 to screen 2
[02:25] <Nameeater> a screen or a program?
[02:25] <morbid88> hi all. How do I set up ndiswrapper to activate drivers on startup?
[02:25] <Ash-Fox> screen program!
[02:25] <Blissex> TheCobra: you may need Xinerama for that.
[02:26] <FirstStrike> afd_: Edgy is still in development stages. It is not recommended for you to upgrade your current Dapper installation at this time. Rather, you should install Edgy on its own partition instead as it is not a stable release yet. Many things are broken/will break as of yet.
[02:26] <Losty1981> hi morbid hang 2 secs
[02:26] <morbid88> thanks, Losty1981
[02:26] <Losty1981> install ndisgtk package
[02:26] <afd_> FirstStrike: thanks for advice
[02:26] <bam_> does anyone know a shell command to increase/decrease the volume of a pc?
[02:26] <Nameeater> alsamixer
[02:26] <Losty1981> check to make sure you have all the repositories checked in synaptic
[02:26] <Hazarath> TheCobra, That's what I was told. Only works in clone mode.
[02:26] <Losty1981> search for ndisgtk
[02:26] <Nameeater> its a curses based app tho
[02:27] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Now what? Re-start the shell?
[02:27] <morbid88> Losty1981: is thtat for me?
[02:27] <Losty1981> and install -- makes ndiswrapper a breeze -- its a gui -- worked to make it start up on mine
[02:27] <TheCobra> i see
[02:27] <TheCobra> :)
[02:27] <Losty1981> morbid :soral for you
[02:27] <hoehave1> Can someone help me with my problem please.
[02:27] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: type sudo mount -a
[02:27] <Losty1981> morbid: all for you  sorry
[02:27] <bam_> Nameeater, thx!
[02:27] <Fuzz> is there a way to check if my direct3d works!?
[02:28] <morbid88> Losty1981: so I get ndisgtk from synaptic? Which repositories do I need?
[02:28] <Healot> there isn't any
[02:28] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Still cannot enable write access.
[02:28] <Healot> there is no Direct3D in GNU/Linux :)
[02:28] <Losty1981> ah i dunno... lol I just checked em all LOL
[02:28] <Fuzz> orly?
[02:29] <morbid88> Losty1981: I ran a search and couldn't find it, so I dont know what I'm missing.
[02:29] <Fuzz> well im trying to get RO to work and its not workign because if the direct3d
[02:29] <morbid88> !ndisgtk
[02:29] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB
[02:29] <Losty1981> check al ur repositories
[02:29] <Fuzz> (ragnarok Online)
[02:29] <morbid88> ah.
[02:29] <Losty1981> use synaptic
[02:29] <Losty1981> morbid: sorry cant be more help
[02:29] <morbid88> I'm in synaptic. I ran a search there.
[02:30] <james296> can somone here help me with making the entire logon screen show on my monitor?
[02:30] <james296> only part of it is showing
[02:30] <Losty1981> morbid: jsut check all the repositories.....and make sure u press reload
[02:30] <morbid88> Losty1981: ok, thanks.
[02:30] <lix> morbid88: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/ndisgtk
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: HAve you used anything like Automatix or Easyubuntu or non-official repos?
[02:30] <james296> well?
[02:30] <morbid88> Losty1981: I found the repositories window. I'll check them and see if I find it. Thanks, mate!
[02:31] <morbid88> lix: Or, I could try that...
[02:31] <Losty1981> either or
[02:31] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, Yeah, Easyubuntu
[02:31] <Adam> ubuntu is based on debian right?
[02:31] <lix> morbid88: It's in Universe
[02:31] <Losty1981> adam: apparently
[02:31] <midgetg0at> Automatix uses 99% official repos
[02:31] <lix> Adam: somehow
[02:31] <midgetg0at> i thought was great, and then was informed about prog clashes it can introduce :(
[02:31] <Adam> right cheers
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> midgetg0at: And works 95% of the time.. Try going to their channel and see how much help is available
[02:32] <midgetg0at> well, I had great luck with it - but the nay sayers convinced me otherwise :-/
[02:32] <morbid88> I'm getting the extra repositories. Will look now.
[02:32] <midgetg0at> i'm just too new to linux to deal w/ seemingly unexplainable errors
[02:33] <morbid88> found it, thanks. Will try. Cheers all!
[02:33] <Losty1981> no wozzas
[02:33] <lix> morbid88: np
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> midgetg0at: When we see really odd problems that do not respond to normal fixes.. many times thay have used those scripts
[02:33] <realist> What is EasyUbuntu?
[02:33] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, brb
[02:33] <morbid88> (I love this channel, it's like the Google Maps of ubuntu...)
[02:33] <FirstStrike> !easyubuntu
[02:33] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:33] <midgetg0at> realist: a little gui which allows for quick install of common apps.
[02:33] <piratepenguin> does Ubuntu ship with ekiga?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !easyubuntu > realist
[02:33] <lix> morbid88: ;)
[02:33] <TeemuR> realist: A program that automatically installs some usefull codecs and programs
[02:34] <Healot> yes, piratepenguin
[02:34] <piratepenguin> cheer
[02:34] <piratepenguin> s
[02:34] <midgetg0at> but - the number of apps is dwarfed by those offered by automatix
[02:34] <morbid88> Okay, so I've got it running. But how do I get the ndiswrapper module to load on boot?
[02:34] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Ok, back... what do I do now?
[02:34] <Healot> application -> Internet -> ekiga
[02:34] <Losty1981> i think it does it automatically
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> both easyubuntu and automatix are not encouraged.
[02:34] <juan> this line "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" should let me read write and execute anything on the drive i mount right?
[02:34] <Losty1981> it did for mine atleast?
[02:34] <realist> Jack_Sparrow: where can I find a list of !commands for ubotu?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !help
[02:35] <midgetg0at> I've got a somewhat silly question...i'm running in twinview mode (dual monitors)...how might i get my top and bottom desktop panels to stretch the full 2560 pixels of my desktop?
[02:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:35] <midgetg0at> is there some file i can manually edit?
[02:35] <Losty1981> morbid: load the inf with the gui .... i think it discretely changes some other things
[02:35] <seriouslycgi> hi i installed dapper over the top of fedora and i have a hard drive set as slave on 1st ide port. the folders are all owned by 500 and group 500 how do i change this so all the files and folders can be accessed by users?
[02:35] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: You'll have to ask some one else. I'm not sure where the issue is at this point as I've only dealt with NTFS in depth.
[02:36] <weswh-work> does anyone know if there is a package for the Fox GUI toolkit stuff for Ruby?
[02:36] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Lemme re-start the shell.
[02:36] <FirstStrike> That won't change anything that sudo mount -a wouldn't do :>
[02:36] <morbid88> Losty1981: I've already set up the drivers for ndis. I used ndiswrapper -i. It shows up as already installed in ndisgtk (although it's still convenient as hell!) But I need to load the ndiswrapper module at boot.
[02:36] <morbid88> does depmod -a do that?
[02:37] <midgetg0at> sudo chown <something here> /hdb0/* ? but thats a total guess
[02:37] <morbid88> or do I drop it into the modules directory
[02:37] <TeemuR> How well does Cedega work and how easy is it to use?
[02:37] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Still no good.. anybody can help?
[02:37] <Losty1981> morbid: just remove it....and install with the ndisgtk
[02:37] <morbid88> ah. I'll try that.
[02:37] <Losty1981> morbid: like I said it set mine to boot with it every time.....ik think there is more to meets the eye with ndisgtk
[02:38] <midgetg0at> no response to how to set desktop panel widths?
[02:38] <Losty1981> at least it "WAS" working
[02:38] <morbid88> aaaaah. Robots in disguise.
[02:38] <Adam> any one know what ubuntu version has the tg3 module for Broadcom nics allready configuered?
[02:38] <morbid88> am I still on?
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[02:38] <Losty1981> yeah
[02:38] <Losty1981> lol
[02:38] <juan> !fuse
[02:38] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:38] <mtholdenss> !screencasting
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screencasting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <juan> !fstab
[02:38] <morbid88> :-) pretty robust, this "linux" thing.
[02:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:38] <Xteven> can I somehow put another kernel on an ubuntu install cd ? my system is so new that it needs a newer kernel to even boot from a cd
[02:38] <Xteven> hi btw
[02:39] <mtholdenss> screen casting?
[02:39] <juan> !mount
[02:39] <Losty1981> ur better off having a fat32 partition linux/windows share hej?
[02:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Xteven: Do you get to the start or install screen?
[02:39] <juan> !fat32
[02:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Xteven: Have you done the CD self test for errors
[02:39] <Hazarath> This so sucks... lost roughly 70GB of hard drive space to format it so Lunix can write to it... and now I can't even use it.
[02:40] <Losty1981> u can write to fat32 juan
[02:40] <Losty1981> from ubuntu out of the box
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> juan: Please send that info to yourself rather than to all in the channel like  /msg ubotu fstab
[02:40] <Xteven> Jack_Sparrow : I tried edgy knot 2
[02:40] <Xteven> Jack_Sparrow : I get a colorfull tv-test-screen thingy and it says "mounting root disk"
[02:41] <Xteven> and then I get dropped to a busybox shell
[02:41] <Hazarath> Losty1981, That may work... re-format my drive in Windows to Fat 32, and bring it back... duh...
[02:41] <betim> hi, I have iso of ubuntu server, does it contains gnome on it?
[02:41] <Xteven> the kernel doesn't have drivers for my ide chipset
[02:41] <Neo8750> Xteven: the edgy splash stinks
[02:41] <juan> i no but i need to change something so that i can execute the files on my fat drive?
[02:41] <Xteven> which is ICH8R I believe
[02:41] <Neo8750> and you can't change it
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Xteven: Asking in Ubuntu+1 would be a better choice
[02:41] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, That should work, right? Format the drive to Fat 32 under Windows?
[02:41] <Xteven> Jack_Sparrow : oh, ok :)
[02:42] <drole> hi there,, i need some help.. where can i get avi codec for totem?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> juan: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[02:42] <FirstStrike> Hazarath: If you format it to fat then yes, you can write to it out of the box. If you install fuse and ntfs-3g then you can write to it even if it's formatted to NTFS.
[02:42] <juan> thx
[02:42] <midgetg0at> drole: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:43] <FirstStrike> so either way, you can write to it. a fresh ubuntu install shouldn't have any issues mounting and writing to a fat drive.
[02:43] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, That info could of been _very_ handy about 3 hours ago... everythnig I've tried wouldn't allow writing to NTFS... lost 70GB of stuff, lol... lemme go format, heh.
[02:43] <FirstStrike> but if you messed up your some permissions either manually, through a script or caused something else to go awry then that could cause issues.
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Not a good choice
[02:44] <Xteven> not much activity in ubuntu+1
[02:44] <midgetg0at> (or none)
[02:44] <Neo8750> just download the edgy cd and try it
[02:44] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, I've tried everytihng... captive, all that.. still failed. Plus: said drive had too much info to back up, heh.
[02:44] <Neo8750> if it comes down to it you got 2 coasters =/
[02:44] <FirstStrike> ntfs-3g is still in testing stages, however it has been tested quite extensively with no corrupted files/filesystems thus far (documented anyway)
[02:45] <FirstStrike> i use it on this box and haven't had any problems either.
[02:45] <daurn|laptop> how do you install it?
[02:45] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Jack_Sparrow Gonna re-format the drive now, bbs.
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Writing to ntfs is not 100% safe
[02:45] <FirstStrike> !fuse
[02:45] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:45] <FirstStrike> !ntfs-3g
[02:45] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[02:45] <Arinomi> I have downloaded the ISO, burned it to a CD, and rebooted my pc. Now what?
[02:45] <Neo8750> FirstStrike: thats only because the people who fs corrupted also had system crash and sho them self it just wasn't their day
[02:46] <kishore> if we delete any files in windows drives.. from ubuntu.. they are not actually deleting..
[02:46] <FirstStrike> :P
[02:46] <Neo8750> s/sho/shot
[02:46] <Nigthfall> hi
[02:46] <FirstStrike> Arinomi: I'm assuming the Ubuntu livecd?
[02:46] <Arinomi> FirstStrike: I was told to download the Desktop CD
[02:46] <FirstStrike> Arinomi: Click the Install icon on the desktop and follow the instructions.
[02:46] <FirstStrike> The desktop/livecd are the same thing.
[02:46] <Fuzz> how do i uninstall my fglrx drivers?!
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !fglrx > Fuzz
[02:47] <midgetg0at> uninstall, or run a different driver?
[02:47] <FirstStrike> Since he said uninstall I'm assuming..uninstall.
[02:47] <Fuzz> reinstall actually
[02:47] <midgetg0at> awww first, maybe you'll be right next time.
[02:48] <FirstStrike> I can only go by what they say. You weren't right either :P
[02:48] <Fuzz> im using the ATI drivers now
[02:48] <Nigthfall> Is it possible to run ubuntu-live from external harddisks? To use it as a portable Linux on different systems?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Fuzz: Use the info supplied by the bot
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> !ping
[02:48] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[02:48] <Fuzz> because it works on my desktop with dualscreen.. and the fglrx drivers totally screwed up my GUI
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> ubotu compact flach install
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compact flach install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> ubotu compact flash install
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compact flash install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <Losty1981> Can someone help me with my network card: It used to interface as eth1 ... but now it doesnt seem to recognize it at all... ndiswrapper says its loaded but its not showing up on iwconfig...
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> crappy.
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[02:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> and my google-fu powers have run out
[02:49] <Kameli> hi, why the command sudo apt-get buil-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work but sudo apt-get build-dep wine works, does anyone know? help me ='(
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> arr mate thanks
[02:50] <Losty1981> is there some where I should look to nano for network settings /etc ??
[02:50] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Jack_Sparrow Crap... will only allow me to format to NTFS... *stabs Windows*
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Losty1981: what network card are you using
[02:50] <Kameli> hi, why the command sudo apt-get buil-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work but sudo apt-get build-dep wine works, does anyone know? help me ='(
[02:50] <Hazarath> bbs
[02:50] <nataraj_> if i open a deb package in firefox, using the package installer, where does it get d/loaded on my hard disk?
[02:50] <Losty1981> im using a broadcom which previoulsy had worked fine
[02:50] <Coffeegrinds> i guess now the only issue is I've got a CF-IDE adapter .. I'm not seeing much of those
[02:51] <Kameli> look my guestion :(
[02:51] <Losty1981> and recently even better since I got the latest drivers
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: Are you going to try and put XP back on that..
[02:51] <Losty1981> but inexplicably....doesnt work at the moment
[02:51] <Losty1981> ive rebooted etc
[02:51] <Losty1981> stumped
[02:51] <jman8888> Can anybody help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=253630
[02:51] <Coffeegrinds> nataraj_: open the download window, unter tools, It'll tell you at the bottom
[02:52] <nataraj_> ok
[02:52] <reazon> n
[02:52] <reazon> help
[02:52] <reazon> wtf
[02:52] <Coffeegrinds> ftw?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Losty1981: reazon  Please avoid using the enter key for punctuation.  All on one line makes it easier on the other 857 people in the channel
[02:52] <phanter> hello there. I have a bunch (640) vcs calendar files which I would like to inster in evolution. How can I do this as an automated proces
[02:53] <reazon> ya im just trying to know how this command line irc works
[02:53] <reazon> sorry
[02:53] <Losty1981> Jack: sorry mate...bad habits
[02:53] <Coffeegrinds> heheh
[02:53] <Kameli> hey guys, does anyone know why my command sudo apt-get build-dep simgear or flightgear doesn't work, but when i type sudo apt-get buil-dep wine it works?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:53] <weswh-work> i have ruby 1.9 installed through synaptic, trying to run a ruby app through terminal. it says type 'ruby setup.rb', but terminal says command ruby does not exists. any ideas?
[02:53] <Healot> Kameli: those packages aren't in the repos :)
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Healot,  What! thats too logical an answer!
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:54] <Healot> crikey, it is the answer!
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Oi Vey!
[02:54] <Coffeegrinds> any pointers here, I've just bought a cheap'n'quick CF card and have a spare CF to IDE adapter, should i go with the USBon a stick to avoid unwanted write and suffer a massive hit to this box's meager256MBs o'pc133? or go all out and burn out my card in a year or two?
[02:54] <phanter> or is there an other program for reading vcs calendar files (I need to extract the info in an ordered way)
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Healot,  why cant i apt-get install windowxp ?!
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:55] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, No, just gonna use fat32 so ubuntu can read/write to it.
[02:55] <nataraj_> Cofeegrinds: i know.. but it doesn't come there.. could it be because i created the dir. under sudo?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Coffeegrinds,  in a year or 2 you will be able to get 10gb cards for $30
[02:55] <Hazarath> Jack_Sparrow, Well, windows and uinuntu
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Hazarath: What about gparted?
[02:55] <Subhuman> Coffeegrinds, keep it frugal, its better just to keep things in RAM then have constant read/writes, but i mean CF cards are cheap nowadays so its up to you.
[02:55] <kishore> hi all
[02:55] <Coffeegrinds> true and what;s you think my chances of burning it out would be?
[02:56] <kishore> i dont find preferences in /etc/apt
[02:56] <Coffeegrinds> like time wise?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Coffeegrinds,  ive never managed to do it yet.
[02:56] <Kameli> Healot: yes them are, there are simgear,flight gear but them are older versions, 0.9.9 :((( and i want 0.9.10
[02:57] <Coffeegrinds> see thats whgat i keep hearing, and I mean I have my 120gb Usb drive, I'm set for external storage
[02:57] <FirstStrike> !partition > Hazarath
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Coffeegrinds: I use cf for everything, MP3, cameras, ipaq
[02:57] <Healot> !info simgear
[02:57] <ubotu> Package simgear does not exist in any distro I know
[02:57] <Nigthfall> bye
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Kameli,  you will have to either use the source, or perhaps the klic auto packages
[02:58] <Healot> Kameli: apt-get only install stuff, binary/source package from the listed official repos, you :)
[02:58] <Coffeegrinds> see I'm looking forward to taking a small hit at sustained read times to get thet zen od less than 1ns read time
[02:58] <Coffeegrinds> sweeet sweet stupidness
[02:58] <Coffeegrinds> and lack of spelling
[02:58] <jirihavelka> Hi, what is the command for gnome trash plz ???
[02:59] <Coffeegrinds> well guys wish me luck ..
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> jirihavelka,  what a odd question. Care to clarify what you are trying to do.
[03:00] <jirihavelka> Dr_Willis: i want to know command for trash
[03:00] <justin_> :( why is Radeon so sucky for Linux..
[03:00] <Healot> it's Ati, sir... proprietary stuff sucks
[03:00] <jirihavelka> i use open source for radeon
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> jirihavelka,  once again..  thats odd.. a command to do WHAT with the trash?
[03:01] <zax1> i want to do some email marketing, and found constant contact, but i dont understand why should i not do it my self ? what are the benefit of using constant contact as opposed to just sending the emails myself ?
[03:01] <kishore> i hav created alias for " apt-cache search " as acs ..now i want to remove that. how can i
[03:01] <jirihavelka> Dr_Willis: to create a shortcut which will run trash, that i need command
[03:01] <zax1> oops wrong channel :(
[03:01] <justin_> Healot: Yeah and the open soure driver is even worse, go figure - I am wondering if ATI did this on purpose, slow down the card in Linux
[03:01] <FirstStrike> justin_: ATI has some terrible Linux drivers.
[03:01] <midgetg0at> thought it was slightly off topic zax
[03:02] <kishore> help needed
[03:02] <kishore> i hav created alias for " apt-cache search " as acs ..now i want to remove that. how can i
[03:02] <Healot> justin_: you can stuff your opinion at #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> jirihavelka,  you mean open the trash can folder?
[03:02] <Healot> the open source driver isn't created b y ATi team
[03:02] <justin_> Yeah, they do anyways...
[03:02] <phanter> how can I combine a lot of files easily in one file (tekstfiles?)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> phanter,  what kind of file..
[03:03] <bintut> anyone here can point me to a good documentation on how to customize an ubuntu cd installer?
[03:03] <phanter> Dr_Willis: textfiles
[03:03] <VCF> Yuw
[03:03] <driz__> Sigh.... has anyone got bitchx to actually look like its supposed to on ubuntu? with ansi?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> phanter,  use 'cat'
[03:04] <VCF> Hi there,
[03:04] <Sp4rKy> hi
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: http://www.livedistro.org/taxonomy/term/376?PHPSESSID=fcca24dbaf9c3e986ec2c0e2a6bcc9e1
[03:04] <VCF> What ftp server should I use ?
[03:05] <Kameli> how i can know then what packages simgear or flightgear needs if apt-get build-dep doesn't works, i have installed all packages what it needs, but still i can't compile it, always some errors :( ?
[03:05] <Hazarath> FirstStrike, Thanks, but gonna do this: Windows will format it to Fat32, but only 32 Gb each: I cut the drive in two, 32GBs each, and gonna just have two partitions.
[03:05] <Healot> read the documentation of that package, Kameli
[03:05] <phanter> Dr_Willis: oke, so how do I write the output into a file? is it like cat *.vcs >> text.txt ?
[03:05] <VCF> In other words what is a good ftp server to use with Ubutnu ?
[03:06] <Hazarath> VCF, gFTP works good for me.
[03:06] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: thanks..
[03:06] <Healot> define "good" VCF
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> phanter,  bash 101 stuff here. :P  basicially that should work.
[03:06] <phanter> hah oke it worked
[03:06] <daurn|laptop> ok
[03:06] <phanter> thnx
[03:06] <daurn|laptop> i installed ntfs-3g!
[03:06] <VCF> It should be secure and easy to update with apt-get ?
[03:06] <Hazarath> VCF, Ya.
[03:07] <justin_> In Xorg, if your video card is an AGP - should the BUSID - still = PCI:1;0:0??
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> just
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> how can i get these 2 commands to run on startup?
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> mdadm --build --level=linear --raid-devices=2 --auto=p /dev/mdp0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> sfdisk -R /dev/mdp0
[03:07] <VCF> So you would recommend gFTP ?
[03:07] <daurn|laptop> gFTP is good
[03:07] <phanter> oke that did not work...
[03:07] <phanter> DAMN
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Losty1981: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:07] <phanter> please if anybody can help me?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> daurn|laptop,  theres a /etc/rc.local I belive
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys i have a 3 button mouse where do i turn emulation off
[03:08] <Healot> btw, he was asking for FTP server :-
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  in the xorg.conf file
[03:08] <FirstStrike> pureftpd
 where is xorg.conf
[03:08] <phanter> I have 640 vcs calendar files and I need the info somehow. Importing in evolution is almost impossible (i have to do it file by file). How can I get the info extracted :s... please I need help with this
[03:08] <Hazarath> VCF, IT'S WHAT i USE.
[03:08] <Hazarath> Sorreh.
[03:09] <daurn|laptop> Dr_Willis: will that run before fstab does its thing?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  in /etc/X11/
 and do i just type false?? is there anything else i have to change
[03:09] <Arinomi> !install
[03:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:09] <jman8888> !dwl-122
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dwl-122 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <FirstStrike> VCF: gFTP is a ftp client. pureftpd is a ftp server.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> daurn|laptop,  i doubt it.
[03:09] <jman8888> !d-link
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <jman8888> !wireless
[03:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:09] <daurn|laptop> so
[03:09] <daurn|laptop> what does?
[03:09] <VCF> Right
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  backup your working xorg.conf. and you proberlly just need to delete the correct line.
[03:10] <VCF> Thanks...
[03:10] <dalani> I put a startup script in init.d to start my wvdial on boot up
[03:10] <dalani> i need to see thelog where????
[03:10] <daurn|laptop> Dr_Willis?
 how do i back it up
[03:11] <bintut> what is the recommended tool to build an ubuntu installer cd? i found UCK and Reconstructor but both of them are not stable. i believe there is a tool used by the ubuntu project..
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  with the cp command.
 cheers, and i just have to delete the line? why do i not type false
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  put in false then.. put in "Please work for me" :P  put in "Klaxto barato Nicto" ---- OR google for the problem and learn what all the options do.. and why   it defaults to FALSE when the line is not there. :P
 lol
[03:14] <Paddy_EIRE> i get it
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Editing the xorg.conf is not Rocket-Surgery :P
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I can see said the blind man
[03:15] <amorph_> exit
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Willis: You almost made me spew my morning coffee
[03:15] <Paddy_EIRE> is it  "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or gksudo im thinking gk?
[03:15] <dalani> i need to see the dmseg log thankswhere????
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> Jack_Sparrow,  :)
[03:16] <dermoth> Hi there. I have a debian source package, need some help making a compiled package from it...
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: BTW.. good morning my friend
[03:16] <james296> why do I get these errors when I try to install items in Synaptic?
[03:17] <james296> E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[03:17] <james296> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:17] <james296> E: system-config-cluster: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: I have used the reconstructor script and it works fine
[03:17] <Acegikmo> can anyone give me a hand? I want to format the hard drive grub is on but first I'll need to install grub on my current harddrive
[03:17] <dermoth> Anyone can help please?? I have a debian source package, need some help making a compiled package from it...
[03:17] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: is there a .deb package for reconstructor?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: HAve you changed any of your sources.list  have you used Automatix or easyubuntu?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: yes
[03:18] <james296> yeah I have used Automatix
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=33
[03:19] <dalani> I need To see the startup log ..is it dmseg?
[03:19] <james296> well?
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: Gawd I hate this...  People use their script then they come here for us to fix things
[03:19] <james296> lol
[03:20] <dalani> at least the rest works jack
[03:20] <trzoniol> 5513
[03:20] <Acegikmo> can anyone give me a hand? I want to format the hard drive grub is on but first I'll need to install grub on my current harddrive
[03:20] <james296> so what do I do to solve this problem?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: third one so far today and it is only 6:20 am here
[03:20] <FirstStrike> haha..same. west coast :)
[03:21] <FirstStrike> !automatix
[03:21] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:21] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: i checked the site you gave to me, only in .tar.gz files
[03:22] <nataraj_> if i install the xfce-base and all dependencies, how do i make it the default desktop environment, replacing gnome?
[03:22] <nt13> hello everyone ! Can anybody help me with soundcard configuration?
[03:22] <FirstStrike> nataraj_: logout, change your session to xfce-base on the login menu and upon logging in it'll ask you if you'd like to make it your default session. click yes.
[03:23] <james296> if I uninstall automatix would that solve my problem?
[03:23] <davin> Hi, id like to tinker abit with XGL/Compiz, but last time I did that I had to reinstall my system, whats the most efficient way to backup my system? Or should I just do it the old-fashioned way by cp'ing / ?
[03:23] <dalani> Quite simple: I put a startup script in init.d to start my wvdial on boot up. just so regular users can access the internet without needing the root passwrd
[03:23] <EmxBA> afi: you need help? :)
[03:23] <nataraj_> ok..thnx
[03:24] <dalani> do some ou have more than one users on your computers?
[03:24] <nt13> I've 2 soundcard installed (audigy2 + cm8x [onboard] ) ... card drivers r installed properly... but cm8x is set as 1st card
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: I still have the beta deb here but the tar isnt hard to setup or use.
[03:24] <nataraj_> 1 more... i have a sound blaster 16 card. i see that it doesn't support GStreamer. so how do i make my soundcard work?
[03:24] <nt13> while i'd like to use Audigy2 as first card
[03:24] <Neo8750> nt13: did you disable it in bios??
[03:24] <goldfish> how do i know if 3d accel is enabled
[03:25] <FirstStrike> nt13: the easiest way to do this is to simply disable the onboard sound card in your bios.
[03:25] <Neo8750> nt13: unless you want both cards in the system
[03:25] <Vegeta> Why can I not mark packages that i want to install in "Synaptic Package Manager". Every time i mark one, it says that I have to mark additional ones, the problem is that I cant even mark additional ones, I can only click "cancel" or "mark". And when I do press mark it says "Could not mark all packages for installation..." and some error with "Unsolvable dependencies". What does that mean ???
[03:25] <james296> how do I at least reset my script.list or whatever the heck its called
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > james296
[03:25] <davin> Hi, id like to tinker abit with XGL/Compiz, but last time I did that I had to reinstall my system, whats the most efficient way to backup my system? Or should I just do it the old-fashioned way by cp'ing / ?
[03:26] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: can you send to me the beta deb package?
[03:26] <nataraj_> do i have to download the drivers from the alsa site and compile or what?
[03:26] <nt13> goldfish: run glxinfo command... see if direct rendering says Yes or No
[03:26] <Adam> can any one help me with a NIC problem and ubuntu?
[03:26] <Adam> dmesg said the module is loaded
[03:26] <nt13> No means that 3d accel isn't workin'
 instead of using automatix or easyubuntu try using http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[03:26] <Neo8750> Vegeta: you need to fix broken pakages
[03:26] <Vegeta> Neo8750: How?
[03:26] <Adam> but ifup eth0 gives network is unreacable
[03:27] <Neo8750> Vegeta: under edit in synaptic
[03:27] <Neo8750> in the menu
[03:27] <Kameli> What is JPEG Factory support?
[03:27] <FirstStrike> davin: there's several backup tools, howver cping your / directory would work just as well.
[03:27] <nataraj_> guess i am becoming lazy. i'll try to find out what's wrong. :)
 could you tell me how you got the whole top panel to be transparent
[03:27] <Kameli> What is JPEG Factory support?
[03:27] <FirstStrike> davin: i recommend this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: in a minute
[03:27] <eyequeue> !repeat
[03:27] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:27] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[03:27] <Kameli> What is JPEG Factory support? What package i must download that i can get support for that? :)
[03:28] <davin> FirstStrike: Yeah I saw that, Was about to try it out but thought back of last time so im making a backup now so I can tinker with anything I want ;-0
[03:28] <nt13> neo8750: i'd like to have both cards running .. is there anything I can do?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bintut: I looked but didnt see it off hand.. Lost of gigs here..  If I see it I will set it aside
[03:28] <FirstStrike> smart move. making backups of anything before you do a major change should be common practice.
[03:28] <Neo8750> nt13: i personally don't know i was going to sya just disable the one but...
[03:29] <justin_> Does the "radeon" driver for Ubuntu, support 3d hardware acceleration?
[03:29] <Vegeta> Neo8750: That didn't help... Nothing happens when I press at that. ANd when I mark something to install it says the same as before.
[03:29] <Neo8750> try updating the package lists
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: right click panel .. properties... background... solid.. set transparancy
[03:30] <justin_> Jack_Sparrow: Great game by the way :)
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Glad you like it
[03:30] <FirstStrike> nt13: open your volume control and try File > Change Device and select the sound card you want to use.
[03:30] <Neo8750> Vegeta: hit reload
[03:30] <Vegeta> ok, it'll need internet connection, i just have to get the computer online and I'll try that the
yes, but it doesnt make the part where Applications Places And System transparent? just the panel where one would put icons
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> nor the clock??? looks weird
[03:31] <davin> FirstStrike: Yeah...tell me about it, hehe.
[03:31] <Vegeta> Neo8750: That didn't help at all...
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Odd.. What have you done THIS time.. mine is all transp.. or the same as the icon bar..
[03:32] <Neo8750> werid i don't know
[03:32] <Vegeta> I wanted to install "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Please note I am teasing you partly because I know you
[03:32] <dalani> I to let other users use my MS in dual boot to use the internet
[03:33] <davin> FirstStrike: Can I just go to the directory I want to copy to and 'cp <source>' ?   Or do I have to 'cp <source> <destination>' ?
[03:33] <james296> how do I know where my key ID is?
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[03:33] <FirstStrike> Vegeta: have you tried running sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop from a terminal?
[03:33] <Vegeta> It says "Depends: ***** but is not going to be installed" :S
 i found a guy in the forums just now with a similar problem...here we go again lol
[03:33] <james296> anyone?
[03:33] <FirstStrike> davin: cp / /where/you/want/it
[03:34] <Vegeta> FirstStrike: Yeah, but there is something wrong with the commands then :/
[03:34] <davin> FirstStrike: okay, so no need to cd to the directory ;] 
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta:  I have to ask, have you used Automatix or Easyubuntu?
[03:34] <davin> FirstStrike: Huh, tells me something like 'Folder / is being skipped (my translation)
[03:34] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: Don't know what those are...
[03:35] <FirstStrike> davin: it's your root directory so you will need to run sudo
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Good.. thanks
[03:35] <Vegeta> What is the command to install it trhough the terminal?
[03:35] <bintut> Jack_Sparrow: it's ok.. thanks anyway.. :)
[03:35] <davin> FirstStrike: I did..
[03:35] <davin> FirstStrike: sudo cp / /media/usbdisk/bak
[03:35] <quiet> !RestrictedFormats
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23000
[03:36] <FirstStrike> sorry, you can't just copy /
[03:36] <goldfish> it says this Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:37] <goldfish> guess that means off
[03:37] <davin> FirstStrike: sorry, im kinda new at moving files in nix :)
[03:37] <rgg> bizarre little thing happened here
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> PAddy, what happens when you try to make the bottom trans
[03:37] <rgg> yesterday,ubuntu would play mp3 files perfectly
[03:37] <juan> i have aspell installed with english language pack and it works when i use it on a file but when i use aspellfox (basically a scrpit that calls it) it used to work but now calims i dont have any dictonaries. any ideas?
[03:37] <rgg> i didnt even turn the computer off! and now it won't play mp3s anymore
[03:38] <shadeofgrey> hey does anybody know what the channel name is for trhe channel dedicated to osx
[03:38] <Vegeta> FirstStrike: I wrote it as: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" but it says "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/ - open (ll resource temporarly unavaibale). E: Unable to lock the administration directory, is another press using it?"
[03:38] <shadeofgrey> this is going to sound real lame but i JUST brought home my new mac laptop and i havent the slightest idea how to use the damn thing
[03:38] <davin> Vegeta: is synaptic open?
[03:38] <Vegeta> lol
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: What are the settings in your theme manager for controls, borders and icons
[03:39] <Vegeta> yeah I found out. But is says: E: Broken Packages
[03:39] <Vegeta> How do is fix them trhough the terminal
 1 sec
[03:39] <goldfish> how do i turn 3d accel on
[03:39] <davin> Vegeta: apt-get install -f
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Did you look at his sources list yet?
[03:39] <tiz-> Hello all - im trying to run xterm on a certain font with the command "xterm -font sabvga" and im getting this error - can anyone help?? --   X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[03:39] <eyequeue> shadeofgrey, is it an intel mac or a powerpc mac?
[03:40] <shadeofgrey> intel
[03:40] <FirstStrike> davin: do sudo aptitude install sbackup
[03:40] <user-land> hello, what do you recommend to generate a html foto album ?
[03:40] <sushimako> i cannot install jack (the audio cd ripper) because it depends on vorbis-tools and flac, which are virtual packages. what can i do?
[03:40] <FirstStrike> Jack_Sparrow: no, i haven't really gotten a chance
[03:40] <ephemeros> yo! \m/
[03:40] <quiet> user-land: gallery2
[03:40] <user-land> thanks, quiet.
[03:40] <rgg> yesterday,ubuntu would play mp3 files perfectly,i didnt even turn the computer off...and now it won't play mp3s anymore
[03:41] <davin> FirstStrike: Installed, how do I start it up?
[03:41] <rgg> totem won't play them,amarok won't play them,and,i think you guys get it.
[03:41] <Losty1981> rgg: yeah real consistent huh
[03:41] <Oni-Dracula> sushimako, maybe if someone figured out how to remove such dependencies from the package it would install :)
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: MAke a note of them, change them and see if it changes the problem
[03:41] <eyequeue> shadeofgrey, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/6.06/
[03:41] <justin_> exit
[03:41] <justin_> oops :D
 Controls = MacOS-X, Windows Border = MacOS-X Icons = OSX ,  Although when i did the transparent bar from a default install before it did the same thing
[03:41] <jaytee> hello all
[03:41] <sushimako> Oni-Dracula, haha :) why does it even _depend_ on it? i can use it without wanting to encode flac or vorbis.
[03:42] <shadeofgrey> eyeque:  no you dont understand i need the channel name here on freenode for osx help
[03:42] <rgg> Losty1981: i don't get it,sorry,im kinda dumb when it comes to sarcasm :P
[03:42] <eyequeue> shadeofgrey, personally, i prefer http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[03:42] <Oni-Dracula> sushimako, because devs are funny people
[03:42] <Vegeta> davin: You mean like "sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop"?? Because that gives an error too
[03:42] <FirstStrike> davin: first, run sudo simple-backup-config
[03:42] <rgg> Losty1981: well,i can be sarcastic,but i rarely understand it
[03:42] <sushimako> sounds broken to me
[03:42] <Losty1981> rgg: sorry I have been having similar "spooky" behaviour with my wireless networking
[03:42] <FirstStrike> set it up how you want it
[03:42] <Werdna> anybody know about 6to4 / IPv6 on Ubuntu?
[03:42] <shadowhywind> hi all, quick question how do you start in verbose mode?
[03:42] <davin> Vegeta: no, -f will check and fix all broken packages on your system
[03:42] <jaytee> anyone know about mounting and accessing NTFS volumes?
[03:43] <FirstStrike> then run sudo sbackupd to start the backup
[03:43] <eyequeue> !ntfs > jaytee
[03:43] <davin> FirstStrike: so I add / to the Include list?
[03:43] <rgg> anyway,about the mp3 support thing...
 you where right when i use Human it is all transparent bar the menus which im sure is normal
[03:43] <Adam> any one know what SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable failed to bring up eth0 when doing ifup eth0 as sudo
[03:43] <Adam> means?
[03:44] <Losty1981> rgg: have u tried automatix?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: So it is a glitch in that particular theme
[03:44] <Vegeta> davin: "sudo apt-get install -f" worked but installing kubuntu-desktop is saying the same as before.
[03:44] <rgg> Losty1981: well,no.i have it here,let me try it
[03:44] <erUSUL> !automatix
[03:44] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:44] <FirstStrike> davin: by default it's setup to backup all of your system files.
 must report to the author
[03:44] <blitznl> where can I set WPA for my wireless eth? (6.06.1 LTS)
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Like the Dr says.. if it hurts when you do that.. dont do it..
[03:44] <frogzoo> Adam: sounds like you don't have a driver for your nic
[03:45] <erUSUL> he important part is _Use at your own risk_
[03:45] <Adam> frogzoo: dmesg says the driver is working
[03:45] <erUSUL> blitznl: it depends on your card/driver
[03:45] <Losty1981> erUSUL: Have their been problems?
[03:45] <frogzoo> Adam: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[03:45] <davin> FirstStrike: Meh, I got rid of everything and just including /, its backing up now, cheers
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> rgg: Automatix is discouraged...
[03:45] <davin> Vegeta: hmm, well I dunno
[03:45] <erUSUL> Losty1981: yes
[03:45] <rgg> Jack_Sparrow: why?
[03:46] <Adam> SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable failed to bring up eth0
[03:46] <davin> FirstStrike: too bad theres no progress bar
[03:46] <molkko> how to get mozilla xulrunner working on dapper (i mean the standalone version without firefox)
[03:46] <Adam> thats what happens if I run that Frogzoo
[03:46] <FirstStrike> Because it has a tendancy to FUBAR your system.
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> rgg: It is about 7am here and I have seen three people with problems relating to the use of it.
[03:46] <Paladine> rgg cos it is a bag of donkey do do
[03:46] <Losty1981> oh damn huh.. would it be possible it was automatix that somehow FUBARRed my networking??
[03:46] <FirstStrike> davin: no, there isn't. you'll know when it's done when your system resources drop back down to 0 though :P
[03:46] <blitznl> erUSUL: it's an intell 2200bg.. :o
[03:46] <rgg> Jack_Sparrow: USA?
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[03:46] <erUSUL> blitznl: that should work with network manager
[03:46] <rgg> Jack_Sparrow: 11am here in brazil
[03:46] <erUSUL> !networkmanager
[03:46] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[03:46] <davin> FirstStrike: how can I check my system resoures?
[03:46] <rgg> anyway,it never gave me problems
[03:46] <shadowhywind> anyone know how to start in verbose mode??
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[03:47] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:47] <FirstStrike> davin: run top in a command prompt or launch the system monitor from System > Administration > System Monitor
[03:47] <Paladine> rgg, I can guarantee you it did, you just never noticed them
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> rgg: If it works 95% of the time it sounds good until you realize 1 in 20 will have a problem
[03:47] <rgg> ok then,so...
[03:47] <blitznl> erUSUL: I've checked network manager and it only allow me to set a WEP key..
[03:47] <rgg> how can i make ubuntu play mp3 files?
[03:48] <frogzoo> AdamDH: !mp3
[03:48] <frogzoo> !mp3
[03:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <Paladine> follow the instructions from the restricted formats howto
[03:48] <eyequeue> !mp3 > rgg
[03:48] <Paladine> !restricted > rgg
[03:48] <rgg> sure
[03:48] <frogzoo> AdamDH: cat /etc/iftab
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> rgg: The problem is .. once that script uses non-ub sources there is no easy way back...
[03:49] <rgg> let ubuntu just update opera,which i don't even use...
[03:49] <rgg> and i'll install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:49] <Paladine> the problem is the script is a pile of poorly written junk
[03:49] <Paladine> lets not hold any punches here
[03:49] <Paladine> it is utter carp
[03:49] <erUSUL> blitznl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[03:49] <Losty1981> I'm sure they have the best of intentions hej
[03:50] <sushimako> !jack > sushimako
[03:50] <blitznl> erUSUL: I'll work it through, thanks!
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> If someone feels they MUST try it.. Just make a full backup first.... One line in CLI is all it takes to save the day
[03:50] <rgg> oh.i already have the "ugly".
[03:50] <davin> FirstStrike: huh I dont get it, how can I check if its still backing up?
[03:50] <rgg> and the good,and the bad.
[03:51] <AdamDH> this is not a wireless nic
[03:51] <FirstStrike> davin: because the script is still running.
[03:51] <sushimako> !flac > sushimako
[03:51] <rgg> in fact,i have almost all the gstreamer packages installed
[03:51] <Vegeta> It seems that I can't install any package or software, because it says: "'<name>' is not available in any software channel" why?
[03:51] <ajay> what can i do to optimise ubuntu for i686?
[03:52] <eyequeue> !msgthebot > sushimako
[03:52] <davin> FirstStrike: but how can I see if it is?
[03:52] <FirstStrike> davin: i just told you.
[03:52] <user-land> quiet, how do i start gallery2 ?
[03:52] <user-land> also, is it a security risk ?
[03:53] <davin> FirstStrike: Im in top
[03:53] <user-land> i don't want to use apache and the multi user features anyway.
[03:53] <davin> FirstStrike: I cannot see it though
[03:53] <eyequeue> ajay, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[03:53] <Paladine> user-land, is your computer connected to the internet?
[03:54] <goldfish> help needed with gfx card setup no 3d accel and windows flicker when moved
[03:54] <user-land> yes, paladine.
[03:54] <user-land> i am looking for a simple html album generator.
[03:54] <Paladine> well then, you have already opened it up to security risks
[03:54] <Losty1981> --/FORMAT
[03:55] <davin> FirstStrike: cant I just copy all dirs one by one? (/etc /var /home etc)
[03:55] <user-land> paladine, so ?
[03:55] <Paladine> galery2 shouldn't pose any larger a threat
[03:55] <FirstStrike> davin: the only thing you really have to look at is the CPU usage. As long as it's backing up your cpu usage is going to be spiking well over 50%.
[03:55] <user-land> paladine, how do i start it ?
[03:55] <rgg> awesome!
[03:55] <Paladine> read the instructions would be a good start
[03:55] <rgg> i have all the gstreamer packages suggested by https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[03:55] <rgg> and i still can't play mp3 files
[03:55] <FirstStrike> do what you want
[03:55] <POVaddct> user-land: you mean one that doesn't need apache+php+...?
[03:55] <user-land> paladine you are so wise ...
[03:56] <davin> Is there a terminal command to clear it? (like cls in dos)
[03:56] <user-land> yes, povaddct.
[03:56] <FirstStrike> hit H
[03:56] <eyequeue> clear (1)            - clear the terminal screen
[03:56] <eyequeue> clear (3ncurses)     - clear all or part of a curses window
[03:56] <POVaddct> user-land: try easyGG
[03:56] <ajay> eyequeue, thanks mate anything else other than that?
[03:56] <Vegeta> It seems that I can't install any package or software, because it says: "'<name>' is not available in any software channel". Is there anyone who knnows why it does so?
[03:56] <davin> okay clear :-)
[03:56] <eyequeue> ajay, that's it
[03:56] <davin> eyequeue: cheers
[03:57] <POVaddct> user-land: easyGG is just a shell script, you to install imagemagick and jhead for it
[03:57] <POVaddct> user-land: s/you/you need
[03:57] <Losty1981> So stay WELL clear from AUTOMATIX huh
[03:57] <AdamDH>  http://www.adamhorden.co.uk/linux/ my dmesg output the error with ifup and the command Frogoo told me to run and the lcpci output
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta:  Please post your sources.list to the Pastebin and provide link           gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[03:58] <ajay> eyequeue, after getting that kernel any speed bursts?
[03:58] <Paladine> Losty1981, stay well clear of -any- "We will do it all for you" type script
[03:58] <rgg> Losty1981: me?sure,i'll stay away from it
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Losty1981: Yes, or go there for hel when things go wrong
[03:58] <davin> Gah, cant seem to backup any of 'em
[03:58] <Paladine> including automatix and easyubuntu
[03:58] <eyequeue> ajay, you will need a reboot
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> help
[03:58] <rgg> but i still like my mp3 files.
[03:58] <ajay> yeah after that any speed change?
[04:00] <Losty1981> DOes any one know when stable 6.1 is due?
[04:00] <Bazzi> Losty1981: it's 6.10 which means october 2006
[04:00] <Bazzi> 26th of october for this version
[04:01] <Losty1981> oh I didn't realize that was the naming convention
[04:01] <Losty1981> is that standard?
[04:01] <Paladine> 5 days before my birthday
[04:01] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: Should I just copy the content of "sources.list" and upload to that page?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: yes
[04:02] <eyequeue> !schedule > Losty1981
[04:03] <dirz> ahhh!!!
[04:03] <dirz> bitchx wont load ansi properly
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Almost time for me to head off to the beach.... I did want to see your source list first
[04:04] <POVaddct> dirz: why use bitchX? irssi is the choice
[04:04] <Vegeta> Its uploading but going really slow 2 sec
[04:04] <dirz> POVaddct: either way, ansi wont work.
[04:04] <dirz> and i need to figure out why
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:05] <POVaddct> dirz: i think thats a terminal issue, not the irc client
[04:05] <Paladine> POV you answered your own question
[04:05] <Paladine> he uses bitchx cos it is his choice
[04:05] <livingdaylight> what is the command whichlets me see both hardrive and all the partitions?
[04:05] <livingdaylight> df -h
[04:05] <dirz> POVaddct, your right, but ansi will not load on ANY terminal. gnome terminal, eterm, or xterm
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[04:05] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:05] <ajay> !gentoo
[04:05] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[04:05] <ajay> !ajay
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ajay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <ajay> :)
[04:06] <holzmodem> hi im installed succesfully irda (Samsung p35), but now i cant connect to my mobilephone (Ericsson T630)... irdadump receive always 0 pakets, discover log is still empty.... someone an idea??
[04:07] <livingdaylight> df -h only shows me sdb and not sda. df -h /dev/sda doesn't work either
[04:07] <johnp> Hi all.  I just installed ubuntu and was trying to get realplayer installed.  I used 'sudo apt-get install realplay' but received this error:  "E: Couldn't find package realplay"
[04:07] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: Don't you know another page? That just keeps saying "Waiting for pastebin.com" it doesn't make any progress :S
[04:07] <Paladine> pastebin.ca
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > Vegeta
[04:08] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > johnp
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Sorry but I did not say pastebin.com I just said to the pastebin as found in the channel topic
[04:08] <dk> hi
[04:08] <dk> how come i cannot close frozen programs
[04:08] <dk> how do i close them
[04:08] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me?
[04:09] <dk> for example,  xmms wont close when i tell it to
[04:09] <Paladine> dk kill -9 PID <- where PID equals the PID of the process
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> livingdaylight: you could run gparted
[04:09] <dk> how can i identify the PID
[04:09] <malice_> Looking for games that can play on ubuntu can not find a good url... I would really like something that I can add to my source list
[04:09] <user-land> povaddct, do you know if i can specify options ? easygg changes the orientation of some images and scales the target images against my wish.
[04:10] <Paladine> malice_: check out www.transgaming.com
[04:10] <malice_> ty
[04:10] <eyequeue> better to start with kill -15
[04:10] <dk> yeah cedega is good
[04:10] <jake1> i have a .deb package...... how would i go about installing it?
[04:10] <dk> kill -15?
[04:10] <realist> jake1: dpkg -i
[04:10] <eyequeue> jake1, sudo dpkg -i foo
[04:10] <realist> !dpkg
[04:10] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:10] <bluefusionxl> hey guys.  My how do I set up my network?  My samba isnt showing up
[04:10] <Losty1981> jake1: or use synaptic
[04:10] <bluefusionxl> on my windows comp
[04:10] <dk> lol
[04:11] <dk> run windows network setup wizard
[04:11] <dk> how can i identify what PID my xmms is right now
[04:11] <dk> cause it wont close
[04:11] <Vegeta> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23002 <-- there
[04:11] <magnet> dk: pidof xmms
[04:11] <dk> ok ty
[04:11] <Paladine> ps -x | grep xmms
[04:11] <jake1> oh right ..... lol
[04:11] <jake1> nvm
[04:11] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23002 <-- here is the source.list
[04:11] <POVaddct> user-land: there are no options. you can change the scaling by editing the script (look for -scale "640x480")
[04:11] <jake1> Losty1981 wasn't on synaptic
[04:11] <dk> so you reccomend to kill with -15 or -9
[04:11] <magnet> -9
[04:11] <jake1> i have the .deb file on the desktop
[04:11] <dk> ok
[04:11] <AdamDH> erm can any one help me with this network card issue?
[04:12] <Paladine> -9
[04:12] <dk> ty
[04:12] <eyequeue> -15 is safer
[04:12] <POVaddct> user-land: the orientation is taken from the EXIF header of the files
[04:12] <eyequeue> -9 can cause zombies
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone in here use talktalk broadband???
[04:12] <bobbob1016> Can anyone help me setup my ipw2200?  It was working fine, then all of the sudden, after a few weeks of working, it decieded not to work anymore.
[04:12] <magnet> eyequeue: zombies are inherited with init which will wait() for them anyway
[04:12] <gemeindeba> hello. recently i am experiencing lots of crashes of evolution and firefox. evolution crashes on me but offers to restart the application, after which the session runs fine. but firefox does totally lock up. i know how to kill the process, but i wonder, how can i find out what's going on?
[04:12] <magnet> by init*
[04:12] <nownot> if i install windows via vmware will i be able to read/write ntfs partitions
[04:13] <abu_ama3ma> I need help mounting my NTFS drive from Ubuntu
[04:13] <magnet> gemeindeba: prolly bad RAM
[04:13] <dk> ok nice
[04:13] <dk> xmms has been killed
[04:13] <eyequeue> magnet, until you give up and reboot :(
[04:13] <bobbob1016> I've been trying this thread, but when I got to the ./autogen.sh, it said I needed gnome-common from cvs
 did you try running firefox from a terminal to see what happens
[04:13] <user-land> povaddct, thanks, i found the lines changing the orientation and can comment them out, however how would i change the second convert line so the original images get copied over ?
[04:13] <dk> now do you have any idea why it would freeze?
[04:13] <dk> its a fresh installation of ubuntu
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> FirstStrike: Did you see his sources list
[04:13] <bobbob1016> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125150&highlight=ipw2200
[04:13] <Paladine> might not be bad ram, could be a hd fault
[04:13] <nownot> if i install windows via vmware will i be able to read/write ntfs partitions
[04:13] <magnet> eyequeue: nah :) and zombies are just an entry in the process list, no big deal
[04:14] <dk> and i just booted up, opened up xmms, and told it to play
[04:14] <eyequeue> magnet, apparently you haven't had many
[04:14] <gemeindeba> Paddy_EIRE, i shall try that, i refuse to believe (i cannot afford to believe) that the ram is faulty. been running happily quite some time
[04:14] <dk> to play my last url
[04:14] <Paladine> nownot, you should never try and write to ntfs from linux
[04:14] <magnet> dk: xmms is an old piece of junk :)
[04:14] <Paladine> xmms rocks my world :p
[04:14] <dk> lol
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Are you in Denmark?
[04:14] <eyequeue> dk, try bmp
[04:14] <magnet> eyequeue: I have
 i know what you mean
[04:14] <dk> ok
[04:14] <dk> will bmp work in gnome
[04:15] <eyequeue> sure
[04:15] <dk> awesome
[04:15] <gemeindeba> Paddy_EIRE, thank god for ff plugins to restore a crashed session :)
[04:15] <abu_ama3ma> How can I get files from my NTFS drive and paste them to another computer on my network
[04:15] <dk> should it be listed in add/rem?
[04:15] <POVaddct> user-land: i don't know what you mean. if you skip the orientation part, the images should just be copied over.
[04:15] <dk> abu: what platform
 yeah, which plugin does that??
[04:15] <AdamDH> adamhorden@xpc:~$ sudo ifup eth0
[04:15] <AdamDH> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[04:15] <AdamDH> Failed to bring up eth0.
[04:15] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[04:15] <abu_ama3ma> dk: what do you mean what platform
[04:15] <dk> what operating system
[04:15] <eyequeue> dk, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[04:15] <crayzee> Anyone here using an AMD AM2 under Ubuntu?
thats a good question
[04:16] <bobbob1016> can anyone help me with my ipw2200?
[04:16] <abu_ama3ma> dk: the drive is for Windows XP
[04:16] <dk> im using an amd athlon
[04:16] <dk> are both ends windows xp?
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Most of your repos have been rem'd out...
[04:16] <Vegeta> "rem'd out"?? what does that mean?
[04:16] <gemeindeba> Paddy_EIRE, it is part of the extenstion "Tab Mix Plus" as far as i know!
[04:16] <Paladine> writing to an NTFS partition from linux is a good way to hose your ntfs partition
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Did you make a backup with the command I gave you?
[04:16] <user-land> povaddct, the orientation problem seems solved. however, i would like the target images to be full scale so people can print them with the original quality.
[04:16] <abu_ama3ma> dk: i'm using an amd athlon, and want to read the NTFS drive in my computer from ubuntu
[04:16] <Paladine> the only safe way to do it is to do so as a an smb share
[04:17] <Vegeta> No, what would that make a backup of?
[04:17] <POVaddct> user-land: ah, i understand
[04:17] <dk> you would probably have to mount the drive
[04:17] <gemeindeba> Paddy_EIRE, i am one of the freaks who at least reads every extension description of ff. got the best collection i daresay :)
 sounds good, do u use fasterfox and noscript really recommended
[04:17] <Paladine> ntfs requires a live OS to function correctly
[04:17] <dk> read is ok
[04:17] <dk> just dont write
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: run this in term      sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[04:17] <abu_ama3ma> dk: i need to find out what instructions to use to mount it.
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[04:17] <user-land> could i replace the second 'convert' line with something like cat/copy ?
[04:17] <dk> oh
[04:17] <zOrK> I've got a little trouble with wireless
[04:18] <dk> maybe these guys can help
[04:18] <zOrK> who could help me
[04:18] <dk> im not exactly sure about the command
[04:18] <gemeindeba> Paddy_EIRE, fasterfox does put quite a strain on webservers and i have a couple of websites where the servers refuse my browser with fasterfox installed. of course i use noscript!
[04:18] <dk> boo, bmp is not listed in my add/rem
[04:18] <nidal> hi all, can someone tell me how do I force synaptic to NOT use network proxy? coz, even though Ihave changed the network settings to "direct internet connectin" its still looking for the proxy
[04:18] <abu_ama3ma> Does anybody know how I can read from my NTFS hard drive from Ubuntu
[04:18] <realist> !ntfs
[04:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:18] <ProN00b> gemeindeba, i thought fasterfox can be throtled so so it is more standards compilant ?
[04:18] <POVaddct> user-land: change the second convert line to: cp "$FILE" "$SUBDIR/slide_$FILENAME"
[04:19] <dk> click that link that ubotu sent
 i never new that about fasterfox!!...is there a quick way of disabling it when this happens
[04:19] <POVaddct> user-land: that should do it
[04:19] <dk> abu
[04:19] <dk> click that link
[04:19] <abu_ama3ma> dk: yes i'll check that out
[04:19] <ProN00b> gemeindeba, also, if you do the traffic now, you won't do it later, meaning you won't really put more strain on the server
[04:19] <drizz> Anyone here use 3ddesktop?
[04:19] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: Now I have a copy of sources.list.. But for what use?
[04:19] <eyequeue> dk, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Safety net
[04:20] <dk> ty
[04:20] <Ivanowitch> Hi. Does anyone know how to make the Linksys VPN client run under Ubuntu ?
[04:20] <gemeindeba> ProN00b, yeah, but firefox makes too many request per time interval. coming from the same ip some servers don't like it. Paddy_EIRE never played around with the extension afterwards
[04:20] <drizz> Anyone here use 3ddesktop?
[04:20] <zOrK> I've got a little trouble with wireless, who could help me ?
 do you know what i should do to fasterfox to have it running in such a way or is the default install all i need
[04:20] <dk> couldnt find package
[04:20] <dk> :(
[04:20] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: What did you mean by "rem'd out"?? And what to do to fix it?
[04:20] <zOrK> it is already configured, I've installed ndiswrapper and everything at it should be
[04:20] <eyequeue> !repos > dk
[04:20] <zOrK> but at the moment to try
do i need to do the about:config stuff
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list    and remove the # and space in front of all the debs in your list
[04:20] <gemeindeba> abu_ama3ma, http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php check this site
[04:21] <eyequeue> !info beep-media-player
[04:21] <ProN00b> Paddy_EIRE, i think you can set it to standarts compilant mode in its settings
[04:21] <ubotu> beep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB
[04:21] <dk> im not sure how repos work
[04:21] <eyequeue> dk, you need universe
[04:21] <bobbob1016> does anyone have an ipw2200 here?
k, and this wont bother any servers
[04:21] <eyequeue> !repos > dk
[04:21] <dk> ok
[04:21] <gemeindeba> Paddy_EIRE, well thats the idea of the extension, so no, you don't need to change that manually anymore after that extension is installed i think
[04:21] <ProN00b> Paddy_EIRE, never say never
[04:21] <dk> !repos
[04:21] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:21] <eyequeue> dk, follow the bot
[04:21] <dk> k
 i suppose i should read a little more about these extensions
[04:22] <nidal> can someone tell me why snaptic is still looking for proxy , when I have changed the network setting to "direct internet connection" ?
[04:22] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: Only from infront of the "deb"?
[04:22] <dk> ok, brb, got some reading to do :D
[04:22] <dk> thanks guys
[04:22] <ProN00b> Paddy_EIRE, also you could try to contact its developers and tell them alot of people would appreciate a fast-disable button (as most plugins have nowadays)
[04:23] <jake1> how do i set paths
[04:23] <gemeindeba> can anybody tell me how to remove an icon from my desktop that is actually a link to a network share? i cannot move it to the garbage bin (wont drop there) and a right mouse click offers me among others to unmount, which i don't want
[04:23] <ProN00b> Paddy_EIRE, seriously, do that
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: YEs, only in front of the lines with Deb     then    Go back into system... admin... synaptic
[04:23] <Vegeta> and next?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: reload
[04:24] <ProN00b> gemeindeba, yeah, your like the 3rd person having this problem, it kinda sucks that gnome developers feel its better to do it thid way, flame them
[04:24] <itrebal> i've got ruby1.9 installed but it doesn't create a symlink/binary to 'ruby' - instead its named 'ruby1.9' - is it safe to symlink this to 'ruby'? or is there steps to take to do it right
[04:24] <goldfish> want my tv card to find channels help
[04:24] <gemeindeba> ProN00b, ok, so there is no solution to remove these icons?
[04:24] <Paladine> gemeindeba, unmount the share and it will disappear from the desktop
[04:24] <ProN00b> itrebal, ruby is bad, don't use it
[04:24] <user-land> thank you, povaddct, it works. you see this canon camera rotates the images depending on the way you hold the camera while you take the picture, so they don't need to be rotated again.
[04:24] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: It upgraded the packages?
[04:25] <Fuzz> hello
[04:25] <itrebal> ProN00b: nothing i can do about it
[04:25] <gemeindeba> Paladine, i am scared of unmounting anything as the mounting thing to a w2k3 server is still a big mistery to me :)
[04:25] <Ivanowitch> Does anyone know how to connect to a Linksys VPN server from ubuntu? Their own client is RedHat/SUSE only :(
[04:25] <ProN00b> gemeindeba, i think there is somewhere, but i think you can either remove them all or none (or just the network connection icons, but i am not sure about that)
[04:25] <Fuzz> im using fglrx drivers now, but they mess up my resolution and i cant get dualmonitor to work
after i install an extension where does the documentation go?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gemeindeba: To Remove Icons from Desktop Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[04:25] <Fuzz> can someone help me?
[04:25] <dk> whats a good program to edit /etc/apt/sources.list with
[04:25] <POVaddct> user-land: my camera doesn't do that, and it also sets nothing in the EXIF header, so i must rotate the pics myself :(
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: try and install something simple
[04:25] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: But I now have 2 of every locations to the left: like "Email" and "Email (universe)", what are the differences?
[04:25] <gemeindeba> Paddy_EIRE, check in tools / extensions click on the extension and check options
[04:26] <ladydoor> ProN00b: i would like to politely request not asking people to flame others, but perhaps instead asking them instead to make a suggestion
[04:26] <eyequeue> dk, nano
[04:26] <gemeindeba> Jack_Sparrow, thanks i will try that immediately
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: different repos
[04:26] <Fuzz> infact i dont even mind that dualmonitor doesnt work, just my screen resolution is really bad
k, nice one got it
[04:26] <ladydoor> dk: gedit, nano, kedit, or if you already know these programs, vim or emacs
[04:26] <dk> ok
[04:26] <user-land> povaddct, is it a good camera ?
[04:26] <Paladine> Fuzz, no offense but ATI sucks for linux
[04:27] <ProN00b> ladydoor, thats the same
[04:27] <Adam> finally got my NIC up
[04:27] <Fuzz> well yes, i noticed
[04:27] <Fuzz> but thats what i gotta work with
[04:27] <ladydoor> ProN00b: i thought that "flaming" was yelling at someone
[04:27] <POVaddct> user-land: not too expensive, 4 megapixel, i bought it in spring of 2004
[04:27] <justin_> Nano is the best.. :)
[04:27] <ProN00b> ladydoor, nah
[04:27] <ladydoor> !best
[04:27] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:27] <ladydoor> ProN00b: oh. cool
[04:28] <justin_> !botsnack
[04:28] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:28] <justin_> Settle down boy
[04:28] <Vegeta> Jack_Sparrow: Great thank you it's working now. I can mark them and it is downloading package files now. :)
[04:28] <justin_> :)
[04:28] <ProN00b> ladydoor, is there any non crappy gui editor you know ? (you only mentionned crappy ones: gedit, kedit)
[04:28] <nidal> can some one please tell me why synaptic is not taking the network setting "direct connection to internet " and WRONGLY look for proxy ?
[04:28] <gemeindeba> Jack_Sparrow, thank you! works like a charm. makes me feel so inadequate as well :)
[04:28] <eyequeue> ProN00b, flaming developers is uncool
[04:28] <justin_> ProN00b: Mousepad.
[04:28] <itrebal> would it be unsafe to symlink 'ruby1.9' to 'ruby' ?
[04:28] <zOrK> wireless trouble: I've got an already identified wireless driver through ndiswrapper, but at the time which I try to get some wireless network doing iwlist eth1 scan.. it does not seems no appear nothing!!, when I do a ndiswrapper -l , it says " .. hardward present. what could be? what can I do ?
[04:28] <ProN00b> justin_, mousepad is a step in the right direction, but it has no syntax highlighting *sob*
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Vegeta: Glad to help.. you owe thanks to FirstStrike as well, he worked hard to try and help you
[04:28] <ladydoor> ProN00b: i don't use gui programs if i can avoid it
[04:28] <ladydoor> ProN00b: so no
[04:29] <justin_> ProN00b: That's true.. - but it still is one of the best, for now...
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gemeindeba: Glad it worked
[04:29] <ProN00b> eyequeue, in contrary, its the only thing that drives software development
[04:29] <Paladine> there is nothing wrong with gedit
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> People, it has been fun.. off to the beach.. cya
[04:29] <eyequeue> ProN00b, no, glames are counterproductive
[04:29] <Vegeta> Yeah I thank every here to be so helpfull, great great people and channel.
[04:29] <Vegeta> Cya
[04:29] <eyequeue> ProN00b, send a polite informative bug report instead
[04:30] <ProN00b> Paladine, gedit looks like a text file web browser with those hueg buttons and its crappy always displaying tabs
[04:30] <Adam> there is a website list software for ubuntu like a wiki style page with good info ran by some linux group at a university any one got any ideas what the website address is?
[04:30] <ladydoor> ProN00b: so use nano. *shrug*
[04:30] <Paladine> so turn the buttons off
[04:30] <ProN00b> eyequeue, i am not talking about bugs there
[04:30] <jacobmp92> ProNOOB: You can shrink the buttons and turn off the tabs ;)
[04:30] <Paladine> complaining about buttons doesn't make an editor carp
[04:30] <ProN00b> ladydoor, nano is also pretty cool, but its not gui
[04:31] <jacobmp92> exactly, gedit is awesome
[04:31] <Paladine> nano is gui
[04:31] <Paladine> just not a gtk gui
[04:31] <jacobmp92> :p
[04:31] <Paladine> it uses ncurses
[04:31] <eyequeue> ProN00b, send a polite informative request then
[04:31] <ProN00b> Paladine, so you like it if half your screen is taken over by friggin buttons ?
[04:31] <ProN00b> jacobmp92, how ?_?
[04:31] <Paladine> ProN00b, turn the damn buttons off, flaming something for the sake of flaming it is about as lame as it gets
[04:31] <jacobmp92> ProN00B: turn ogg the buttons... -.-
[04:31] <ladydoor> ProN00b: can i suggest this discussion be continued in #ubuntu-offtopic or in a private message?
[04:31] <jacobmp92> off*
[04:31] <ProN00b> Paladine, nano is not a gui, its cli
[04:32] <jacobmp92> its a gui
[04:32] <jacobmp92> just not gtk
[04:32] <Chousuke> hm
[04:32] <ladydoor> ProN00b: actually, a CLI would be bash
[04:32] <adminx> Good to know nano or vi if X breaKs and you are left with a prompt.
[04:32] <zOrK> wireless trouble: I've got an already identified wireless driver through ndiswrapper, but at the time which I try to get some wireless network doing iwlist eth1 scan.. it does not seems no appear nothing!!, when I do a ndiswrapper -l , it says " .. hardward present. what could be? what can I do ?
[04:32] <jacobmp92> same with vim, alsamixer, mc, etc
[04:32] <Chousuke> GUI means graphical user interface
[04:32] <Chousuke> it's a TUI
[04:32] <tizwon> hello all - when i run "glxinfo | grep direct" i get this error: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) - any idea?
[04:32] <ProN00b> nano is text mode, it runs in a console
[04:32] <jacobmp92> its still a UI, if not a GUI
[04:32] <justin_> tizwon: you need to add "rendering" to the argument.
[04:32] <shadowhywind> zork- look in dmesg see if there is a error message
[04:32] <shadowhywind> question - when i turn acpi on, my computer freezes on configureing network devices. Anyone have any ideas?
[04:32] <jacobmp92> im a vim fanboy but i wont start that here ;)
[04:32] <justin_> glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[04:33] <tizwon> ok
[04:33] <Fuzz> what videocards work best under ubuntu?
[04:33] <Blissex> shadowhywind: out telepathic advisers are all busy on other lines :-)
[04:33] <shadowhywind> Blissex:: *blinks*
[04:33] <tizwon> justin_, i still get this error after typing "flxinfo | grep direct rendering -  X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[04:33] <justin_> Fuzz: I would say Nvidia's, because my Radeon experience has been horrible.
[04:33] <adminx> Hey, I,ve become a Ubuntu fanboy so what :)
[04:33] <justin_> tizon with quotes
[04:33] <Paladine> Chousuke, gui is a totally subjective definition, ncurses uses a graphical interface, it just uses ascii charset to make those graphical elements, but they are still graphical
[04:33] <justin_> glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" <-- exactly like that.
[04:34] <Blissex> shadowhywind: however what you say is rather unlikely, unless it is a PCI interrupts routing problem and your MB is a bit broken.
[04:34] <tizwon> justin_, still get the same error with quotes =(
[04:34] <jacobmp92> glxinfo | grep rendering        --also works
[04:34] <Blissex> shadowhywind: try to disable IRQ routing/assignment via ACPI.
[04:34] <justin_> tizwon: That's strange, works over here...
[04:34] <shadowhywind> blissex: how would i do that?
[04:34] <tizwon> hrm...
[04:35] <quiet> how do i change the samba workgroup.. just edit smb.conf? or is there some app that'll do it for me?
[04:35] <eyequeue> ProN00b, http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/flame.html  not useful with developers
[04:35] <tizwon> justin_, now i try the same command as root and get this - Error: unable to open display (null)
[04:35] <Blissex> shadowhywind: various kernel boot options. Check the list thereof.
[04:36] <nidal> can someone please tell me why synaptic is still looking for proxy when I have set as "direct connection to internet " in the network seting of synaptic ?
[04:36] <justin_> eyequeue: Saying that the buttons are too big is not really flaming it is true, some Ubuntu apps - and a lot of others simply put too much graphics on programs that should have minimal graphics - such as text editors.
[04:36] <Blissex> shadowhywind: try 'acpi=on,noirq pci=noacpi'
[04:36] <Paladine> nidal, I can tell you one thing, asking the same question over and over and over again, will not yield any results, I suggest you reboot or restart Xorg
[04:36] <Blissex> nidal: environment variable?
[04:36] <adminx> Question: Does XGL work with Matrox or Sis? I know it does not with Intel, however AIGLX covers Intel.
[04:37] <justin_> tizwon: That is really strange, I am sorry I have no idea why you would get that error - perhaps you should search google, for the message and command.
[04:37] <eyequeue> justin_, he stated re: flaming: <ProN00b> eyequeue, in contrary, its the only thing that drives software development
[04:37] <Paladine> aiglx for matrox
[04:37] <nidal> thanx blissex and paladine. But I have set all the variables and I can use wget without any issue
[04:37] <nidal> only with synaptic
[04:37] <Paladine> I don't think SiS is supported
[04:37] <zOrK> wireless trouble: I've got an already identified wireless driver through ndiswrapper, but at the time which I try to get some wireless network doing iwlist eth1 scan.. it does not seems no appear nothing!!, when I do a ndiswrapper -l , it says " .. hardward present. what could be? what can I do ? what can I do besides a dmesg ?
[04:37] <m0dY> how to install "gpm" on ubuntu 6.0 ?
[04:37] <jacobmp92> tizwon: search synaptic for fglrx, i think that is what you need
[04:37] <adminx> Really, did not know that, thanks alot.
[04:37] <zOrK> m0dY sudo apt-get install gpm
[04:37] <Paladine> nidal, try following my advice instead of arguing it when you haven't tried
[04:37] <nidal> I have /etc/wgetrc , /etc/environment and /etc/profile
[04:37] <eyequeue> !info gpm
[04:37] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-21ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 201 kB, installed size 496 kB
[04:38] <jacobmp92> tizwon: change that to glx actually
[04:38] <eyequeue> m0dY, enable universe
[04:38] <m0dY> z0rk, it's saying that it's referred by anoth pkg
[04:38] <justin_> jacobmp92: HEH
[04:38] <justin_> heh.. even
[04:38] <Blissex> nidal: or you may have set proxying at the APT level. Check in '/etc/apt/'
[04:38] <m0dY> eyequeue: universe ?
[04:38] <jacobmp92> :-p
[04:38] <Paladine> nidal ,restart X
[04:38] <Paladine> synaptic is gtk based
[04:38] <Paladine> wget is not
[04:38] <eyequeue> !repos > m0dY
[04:38] <nidal> no blissex , I have checked that also, so I will try to restart X
[04:38] <tizwon> jacobmp92, what do you mean? what command should i type exaclty.
[04:38] <nidal> thanx for your help
[04:39] <jacobmp92> tizwon: system> admin > synaptic, search for glx
[04:39] <m0dY> eyequeue: so i need to install another pkgs before install gpm ?
[04:39] <eyequeue> m0dY, no, enable universe
[04:39] <tizwon> jacobmp92, ok, it displays alot of packages :)
[04:39] <justin_> tizwon: And when you are done installing the driver, open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in sudo, and find the "DRIVER" section and change "ati" or "radeon" to --- "fglrx"
[04:40] <m0dY> eyequeue: where to enable universe ?
[04:40] <eyequeue> m0dY, read what the bot told you
[04:40] <jacobmp92> tizwon: is mesa-utils installed?
[04:40] <eyequeue> !repos > m0dY
[04:40] <justin_> Tiz, search --- fglrx
[04:40] <m0dY> well, reading
[04:40] <tizwon> jacobmp92, yes
[04:40] <m0dY> in deb sarge it was just "apt-get install gpm
[04:40] <m0dY> "
[04:40] <jacobmp92> hmmm
[04:40] <justin_> Tiz, also when you are done editing xorg.conf, restart your x server -crtl-alt-backspace.
[04:40] <jacobmp92> thats odd
[04:40] <m0dY> aha
[04:40] <tizwon> jacobmp92, the command glxinfo WORKS, but provides errors
[04:40] <m0dY> universe is a repo :)
[04:40] <raghu206> whats the software for playing windows files on ubuntu
[04:40] <eyequeue> m0dY, in ubuntu, enable universe
[04:40] <jacobmp92> ah, i see now
[04:40] <wizard> ls
[04:41] <m0dY> why didn't you said that :)
[04:41] <wizard> oops xD
[04:41] <quiet> raghu206: "windows files"??
[04:41] <ladydoor> raghu206: windows *media* files?
[04:41] <tizwon> jacobmp92, just says Error: unable to open display (null)
[04:41] <quiet> raghu206: .wma?
[04:41] <Paladine> !restricted > raghu206
[04:41] <jacobmp92> try restarting X if you changed something
[04:41] <wizard> How do I wrap around the workspace listing? I want to go from workspace 8  to workspace 1 and back again.
[04:41] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > raghu206
[04:41] <raghu206> quiet, executable files
[04:41] <wizard> How do I do this?
[04:41] <tizwon> didnt change anything :/
[04:41] <quiet> wine?
[04:41] <m0dY> so why isn't gpm in the ubuntu main repo's ?
[04:41] <Losty1981> alright....formatted ....reinstalled.....wireless UP!
[04:41] <ladydoor> raghu206: ah, .exe's? you need wine
[04:41] <Paladine> raghu206, you don't run windows executables in linux
[04:41] <eyequeue> m0dY, because it is in universe
[04:42] <raghu206> ladydoor, other than wine
[04:42] <infidel> anyone here run war3 with wine?
[04:42] <sarikan> hi
[04:42] <ion> how can I bypass bios password ?
[04:42] <jacobmp92> infidel, check the wine site, there is a faq i believe
[04:42] <eyequeue> m0dY, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:42] <Paladine> reset the bios to factory defaults
[04:42] <sarikan> can I play counter strike source while it is setup in a ntfs partition?
[04:42] <m0dY> eyequeue: i see that universe isn't somehow recommended in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <Paladine> using the jumper
[04:42] <ladydoor> raghu206: errrr...wine is the program  generally used to run windoze binaries on wine. if it's old enough you might try dosbox or some such
[04:42] <fredl> compiz is wild....
[04:43] <infidel> jacobmp92: ok thanks
[04:43] <erUSUL> ion: reset the cmos memory (most mobos have a jumper or switch to do that)
[04:43] <eyequeue> m0dY, it is not enabled by default
[04:43] <ladydoor> m0dY: it's turned off by default because it's not supported by the ubuntu devel team itself but by the community
[04:43] <m0dY> aha i see
[04:43] <ladydoor> m0dY: similarly, multiverse is not enabled because its packages are non-free
[04:43] <fredl> anybody here have compiz running?
[04:43] <Paladine> yes
[04:43] <sarikan> fredl: I am using it at the moment
[04:43] <eyequeue> main, but it comes with no guarantee of security fixes and support. The universe    did you read that m0dY?
[04:44] <erUSUL> fredl: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:44] <raghu206> ladydoor, do u think dosbox works better than wine
[04:44] <fredl> 'k
[04:44] <m0dY> eyequeue: yeah
[04:44] <sarikan> any ideas about wine and cs source?
[04:44] <Neo8750> raghu206: for dos probly=)
[04:44] <m0dY> i'm little concerned about security tho
[04:44] <ladydoor> raghu206: for dos
[04:44] <sarikan> can I use it on an ntsf partition?
[04:44] <justin_> Wine.. is bad
[04:44] <erUSUL> raghu206: they are totally different is like comparing apples to oranges
[04:45] <sarikan> my problem is I have cs in a windows partition
[04:45] <justin_> If you want to play windows games in Ubuntu, I would suggest CEDEGA -- it works pretty well, although it is not "free"
[04:45] <Neo8750> if youwant to gameyou most likely want winex
[04:45] <ladydoor> justin_: or free
[04:45] <Paladine> cedega is free to build from cvs
[04:45] <sarikan> I don't mind paying for cedega
[04:45] <Ackeubu_> i have this root for my kernel in my grub list. "root=UUID=7ccaa194-f407-47c2-a90b-ac9e2c43f491" How is that generated?
[04:45] <Paladine> it is not free for the precompiled binaries
[04:45] <sarikan> but I don't want to resize my partitions
[04:45] <Chousuke> Paladine: The CVS Cedega sucks
[04:45] <sarikan> since cs is on the ntfs partition in windows
[04:45] <justin_> ladydoor: Go play with their sources, and try to sell them - see how long it takes before your in court :)
[04:45] <Paladine> Chousuke, did Isay it doesn't suck? no, I just said it is free
[04:46] <Chousuke> Paladine: it's worse than normal wine :P
[04:46] <ubuntu-novice> Need help: my tty is not appearing when I press Ctrl + Alt + F1-6. Any idea what's wrong?  The last thing I had done was installing nVidia drivers.  However, I had rebooted after that.
[04:46] <weswh-_> i see libfox 1.4 in synaptic (fox gui toolkit), but i am looking for 1.6, is there any place to look for newer packages?
[04:46] <eyequeue> dfsg-free?
[04:46] <sarikan> ubuntu-novice
[04:46] <ladydoor> justin_: i wasn't disagreeing with you, i was saying that it's unfree in all senses of the word
[04:46] <justin_> ahhh
[04:46] <weswh-_> i have the universe and whatever other repo's added.
[04:46] <sarikan> this is about removing a line from some config file
[04:46] <ladydoor> justin_: (or at least all those associated with software)
[04:46] <sarikan> I had the same problem
[04:47] <sarikan> I believe it's about grub files
[04:47] <sarikan> wait a sec..
[04:47] <eyequeue> so no freedom to modify and rerelease cedega?
[04:47] <jfletcher> eyequeue: no
[04:48] <m0dY> is there a way to make apt-get use multithreaded downloads?
[04:48] <Ackeubu_> Hey can i recompile my source? When i run make menuconfig in /usr/src/linix i get errors
[04:48] <eyequeue> that bites
[04:48] <m0dY> like opening multiple connections to the same source to improve speed?
[04:48] <eyequeue> m0dY, hammering on the volunteer mirrors? :(
[04:49] <ladydoor> m0dY: probably not, since the mirrors get hit hard enough without it
[04:49] <sarikan> ubuntu-novice:
[04:49] <sarikan> edit menu.lst in /boot/grub
[04:49] <simpo> hello! i've configured my XDM to listen for incoming connection. I can connect to my XDM server (i get login box) but when i type my login/password there is no desktop visable :/ how can i configure XDM to start XFCE for remote users ?
[04:49] <sarikan> and make sure your kernel line is like this (of course your partition will be different)
[04:49] <sarikan> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda6 ro quiet
[04:49] <m0dY> yeah no doubt
[04:50] <sarikan> there was something like splash or
[04:50] <sarikan> similar there
[04:50] <sarikan> that's the problem with nvidia drivers and
[04:50] <sarikan> losing the console after you boot
[04:50] <sarikan> it has worked for me
[04:50] <sarikan> are you around buddy?
[04:51] <erUSUL> !enter
[04:51] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:51] <raghu206> erUSUL, can i get software something works like wine
[04:52] <Gargoyle> After help from some of the peeps in here a few weeks ago, I manages to get postfix, dovecot and mysql all working nicely. I am now retracing my steps and creating a single document for the procedure.
[04:52] <ladydoor> raghu206: wine's your best free option
[04:52] <Gargoyle> If you know of any other resources or existing documents, plz let me know.
[04:52] <ladydoor> raghu206: and i don't know about the non-free ones.
[04:52] <m0dY> is there a way to do an exclude list for the apt-get to prevent some pkgs from being available to be installed/updated/upgraded ?
[04:53] <Xteven> here's a link for anyone suffering with P965 or core 2 duo stuff
[04:53] <Xteven> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[04:53] <eyequeue> Gargoyle, putting it on the wiki?
[04:53] <Paladine> I wouldn't recommend using mysql with dovecot
[04:53] <erUSUL> raghu206: i did not understand your question... wine is the root of all other windows comp layer cedega and crossover office both are forks of wine
[04:53] <Paladine> it works fine but it is a bit of an uneeded resource overhead for email
[04:53] <realist> Didn't know there were any issues with Core 2 Duo?
[04:54] <Xteven> not core 2 duo
[04:54] <Xteven> but the chipset it uses
[04:54] <Xteven> p965
[04:54] <Xteven> it no longer has an ide bus
[04:54] <Gargoyle> eyequeue: Hopefully once I have completed it. I am pulling together info from help.ubuntu.com and the wiki
[04:54] <Xteven> so most people (who have ide cdrom devices) can't boot
[04:54] <eyequeue> Gargoyle, great, thanks
[04:54] <Gargoyle> and a few missing bits that were filled in by people here.
[04:54] <Gargoyle> :)
[04:54] <Ackeubu_> can i regenerate my fstab mounts? ubuntu fstab has a coded system for mountpoints so instead of /dev/sda4 i get a UUID=003F-ADF5??
[04:55] <Xteven> I tried instlux, but no help
[04:55] <raghu206> erUSUL, how can i play real player installed on windows using wine
[04:56] <magnet> Ackeubu_: it seems you're using LVM
[04:56] <erUSUL> raghu206: i do not use wine myself with programs installed on a windows partition so i do not know. i use it to run the standalone executable of utorrent
[04:57] <infidel> raghu206: why don't you just get real for linux
[04:57] <knapper> Hi, does anybody know how to get Aspell working with opera? I can't seem to get it. I have aspell and aspell-en installed.
[04:57] <raghu206> infidel, real player on linux is not as good as it is on windows
[04:58] <zOrK> does anybody has experience with wireless & ubuntu?
[04:58] <tizwon> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic x86_64]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ @ 1.81GHz]  mem[Physical : 1004MB, 78.6% free]  disk[Total : 35.17GB, 87.40% Free]  video[ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] ]  sound[NFORCE - NVidia CK8S] 
[04:59] <Adam> ubuntu is so nice when it works
[04:59] <Adam> 12 hours or so with one problem but after that Im happy eveything including mythtv went fine
[04:59] <redloff> how do I share usb printer over lan?
[04:59] <Blissex> redloff: CUPS.org?
[05:00] <redloff> when I try to add network printer on a remote machine it asks for uri
[05:00] <britt> How do I get alsaconf working?
[05:00] <redloff> and I don't know what to type in
[05:00] <firippu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP is particularly useful
[05:00] <redloff> Blissex, hmm.. tru it's rather cups not ubuntu problem
[05:00] <redloff> networkprintingFromWinXP?
[05:00] <reitzell> adam:I couldn't get mythtv compiled
[05:00] <simpo> how can i set my x-server to use XFCE ?
[05:00] <firippu> has a small cups config guide, and  how to add the printero n a windowz box
[05:01] <redloff> I want to share ubuntu printer on ubuntu :)
[05:01] <firippu> okay, well i imagine that is also a job for cups ;p
[05:01] <gandalfcome> I want to connect to a wpa psk wifi network on ubuntu dapper drake I installed wpa supplicant. It still doesnt work. please help
[05:02] <eyequeue> simpo, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <britt> does anybody use alsaconf anymore for sound?
[05:02] <m0dY> is there a file which could tell which ubuntu version is being used?
[05:02] <redloff> firippu, true, but there are this nice looking functions like "detect lan printers" and stuff
[05:02] <zeronenorez> can anybody help me with upgrading to gnome-2.16.0?
[05:02] <fyrestrtr> m0dY: lsb_release -a
[05:02] <redloff> it's rather ubuntu function than cups
[05:02] <redloff> I thought it gets easier
[05:02] <m0dY> :)
[05:03] <Renan_s2> Is it possible to install GNOME 2.16 on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:03] <firippu> yeah i'm a bit behind the times in the gui tools only got a lamps server installed
[05:03] <gandalfcome> eyequeue: that wasnt directed at me with the wpa psk problem
[05:04] <zeronenorez> after ./configure there is a warning :
[05:04] <zeronenorez> you may set the environment variables GNOME_DESKTOP_CFLAGS
[05:04] <zeronenorez> and GNOME_DESKTOP_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
[05:04] <zeronenorez> See the pkg-config man page for more details
[05:04] <eyequeue> gandalfcome, no
[05:04] <Blissex> redloff: yes, and you use CUPS to share printers...
[05:04] <jona_> Hey guys I can't see my SYSTEM TOOLS Menu on the applications menu, What can i do???
[05:05] <eod_punk> is there a problem with gnome 2.16 that it doesn't support nvidia? i think i read something about it.  or is it rubish?
[05:05] <fyrestrtr> eod_punk: there is no such thing as gnome doesn't support nvidia.
[05:05] <Paladine> I suspect it is rubbish
[05:05] <eod_punk> not in general just 2.16
[05:05] <zeronenorez> jona_,use alacarte menu editor
[05:05] <Paladine> since nvidia are by far the best cards to use with linux
[05:05] <fyrestrtr> zeronenorez: gnome 2.16 is not supported on dapper.
[05:05] <frogzoo> jona_: does it show in alacarte?
[05:05] <jona_> I did it!!! but is inactive
[05:06] <Amaranth> jona_: System Tools is hidden because all of the items in the menu have been hidden
[05:06] <weswh-_> there's nothing in synaptic for Opera?
[05:06] <eyequeue> !opera
[05:06] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:06] <redloff> Blissex, I don't have direct acces to cups web interface, cause it's blocked by default, ubuntu creators wanted to make it easier, and they... like.. didn't make it
[05:06] <zeronenorez> fyrestrtr,how to change the environment?
[05:06] <Cem_UNAL> i want to install kubuntu; wich cd must i download; alternate or desktop?
[05:06] <Amaranth> jona_: to make it show up again you have to tick the checkbox to show the items in the menu, not the menu itself
[05:07] <eyequeue> Cem_UNAL, neither
[05:07] <redloff> Blissex, so that's why I'm asking about the "ubuntu way" of sharing a printer
[05:07] <weswh-_> eyequeue - add/remove? (is this in synaptic?) where is the commercial app option?
[05:07] <Blissex> redloff: the Ubuntu way to share a printer is to share it via CUPS.
[05:07] <Amaranth> Cem_UNAL: Kubuntu has their own "alternate" and "desktop" CDs
[05:07] <redloff> how do I get uri, do I add localprinter on server and network printer on client or the other way?
[05:07] <steinex> someone here using an IBM Thinkpad T23 with Ubuntu?
[05:07] <fyrestrtr> zeronenorez: what you are trying to do, is not supported under dapper. If you want 2.16 gnome, wait for edgy to be released in October.
[05:07] <Blissex> redloff: http://localhost:631/
[05:07] <Paladine> use CUPS to share a printer
[05:07] <redloff> Blissex, that whoud be my shot, as it uses cups for printing
[05:07] <steinex> I have problems with the third mouse button, usually i use it to scroll
[05:08] <redloff> Blissex, it's blocked, as I was saying..
[05:08] <eyequeue> Cem_UNAL, http://www.kubuntu.org/
[05:08] <jona_> Yes... I can see the option but when i select SYSTEM tools simply don't function
[05:08] <zeronenorez> fyrestrtr,my friend had upgraded
[05:08] <eyequeue> weswh-, applications > add/remove
[05:08] <Amaranth> Cem_UNAL: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06.1/
[05:08] <fyrestrtr> you can tell him the same thing I just told you :)
[05:09] <zeronenorez> he did that already
[05:09] <steinex> anyone?
[05:09] <torpedo|dog> steinex: I use a T40.
[05:09] <torpedo|dog> And rather than having the scroll button be the middle, it's simply a middle-mouse button.
[05:09] <steinex> torpedo|dog: do you know what i mean with the scrolling-issue? how do you fixed it?
[05:09] <MrFeetio> im looking into a laptop, and i wanted to know what laptops run nicly with linux, my price is 1000-2000
[05:10] <dk> how do i uncomment a line
[05:10] <Blissex> redloff: http://occy.net/printing
[05:10] <steinex> torpedo|dog: i usually press the third mousebutton and can scroll with the trackball
[05:10] <eyequeue> !laptop
[05:10] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:10] <|CADE|> dk - remove a # from the beginning of the line
[05:10] <eyequeue> MrFeetio, ^^
[05:10] <dk> ty
[05:10] <|CADE|> so for example
[05:10] <fyrestrtr> zeronenorez: then ask him :)
[05:10] <torpedo|dog> steinex: there's no way to do that that I know of
[05:10] <|CADE|> # jesus
[05:10] <|CADE|> is commented
[05:10] <|CADE|> jesus
[05:10] <|CADE|> is not
[05:10] <Blissex> redloff: or use 'gnome-cups-manager'
[05:10] <dk> sweet
[05:10] <steinex> torpedo|dog: well, how can i change it?
[05:10] <Blissex> redloff: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPrinterSharing
[05:10] <zeronenorez> fyrestrtr,he is not online now
[05:10] <steinex> torpedo|dog: i really 'd need the scrolling-feature
[05:11] <pablo_uy> hi! i dont want my ubuntu 6.06 go into hibernation mode (its a server!!) how do i configure that?
[05:11] <dk> and im guessin ## is used for author comments?
[05:11] <torpedo|dog> steinex: I don't think I can help you there. Perhaps somebody in here more experienced with working with X configuration can?
[05:11] <xopher> uu, new csm
[05:11] <|CADE|> dk - generally, yes
[05:11] <gandalfcome> I want to connect to a wpa psk wifi network on ubuntu dapper drake I installed wpa supplicant. It still doesnt work. can anyone point me in the right direction? please help
[05:11] <fyrestrtr> steinex: what's the problem?
[05:12] <|CADE|> I imagine your are removing the commented lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, or something similar?
[05:12] <steinex> fyrestrtr: i'm using a thinkpad. i usually press the third mousebutton and can scroll with the trackball then.
[05:12] <Ackeubu_> magnet: would you elaborate a litle on that? LVM?
[05:12] <cherubiel> steinex: can you show your xorg,conf contents? use a pastebin
[05:12] <erUSUL> pablo_uy: gnome-power-preferneces ??
[05:12] <fyrestrtr> steinex: on your thinkpad, the very right edge of the touchpad acts as a scroller
[05:12] <dk> how do i save files in gedit under sudo
[05:13] <dk> or how do i save files in gedit with admin privliges
[05:13] <magnet> Ackeubu_: well, you selected to install your partitions using the Logical Volume Manager
[05:13] <magnet> Ackeubu_: so you won't see devices like /dev/sda etc
[05:13] <Paladine> you have to open it with gksudo
[05:13] <torpedo|dog> dk: do "gksudo gedit".
[05:13] <steinex> i got it with changing xorg.conf! thanks!
[05:13] <dk> ok sweet
[05:13] <Paladine> so instead of doing gedit somefile
[05:13] <dk> ty
[05:13] <Paladine> do gksudo gedit somefile
[05:13] <redloff> Blissex, thx for the link, as I was saying, I don't know how to get it done via gnome-cups-manager as it asks me for ipp:// which I don't know where to get from
[05:13] <torpedo|dog> fyrestrtr: T40!
[05:14] <fyrestrtr> pablo_uy: remove laptop-tools
[05:14] <pablo_uy> erUSUL: no ive already configured that but.. it still hibernates ...
[05:14] <|CADE|> that's odd - for some reason Opera web browser isn't in any of my repos >_>
[05:14] <cherubiel> fyrestrtr: thats got a ati vid subsys right?
[05:14] <torpedo|dog> |CADE|: do you have dapper-commercial enabled?
[05:14] <erUSUL> |CADE|: opera is in comercial repo
[05:14] <erUSUL> |comercial
[05:14] <|CADE|> torpedo - I'll double check
[05:14] <erUSUL> !comercial
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <erUSUL> !opera
[05:14] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:14] <Paladine> !commercial
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <pablo_uy> fyrestrtr: i dont have that installed
[05:14] <erUSUL> !opera > |CADE|
[05:15] <firippu> pablo_uy: boot your kernel with acpi=off
[05:15] <fyrestrtr> cherubiel: yes.
[05:15] <firippu> also check your bios and turn off references to ACPI there too
[05:15] <|CADE|> that'd be it - I keep forgetting that Opera isn't open-source
[05:15] <|CADE|> -_-'
[05:15] <damnhil> how do I change the locale?
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> !locales > damnhil
[05:16] <erUSUL> damnhil: System>Admin>Language support
[05:16] <fyrestrtr> redloff: trying to share printers?
[05:16] <redloff> fyrestrtr, yes, no positive result so far..
[05:16] <pablo_uy> firippu: ok is there a place whwere i can configure acpi=off so that if the machine reboots due to power-failure automatically starts with acpi=off?
[05:17] <knapper> Hi, does anybody know how to get Aspell working with opera? I can't seem to get it. I have aspell and aspell-en installed.
[05:17] <dk> so i uncommented both  deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:17] <dk>  deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:17] <dk> and i still cant apt-get bmp
[05:17] <cherubiel> dk: do a apt-get update
[05:17] <firippu> pablo_uy: what you want to do, is press escape in grub, select which boot line you want to edit, and add acpi=off at the end of the kernel line, beware you'll probably lose temperature gauges, fan throttling and stuff too
[05:17] <cherubiel> after uncommending
[05:17] <cherubiel> commenting*
[05:17] <dk> ok
[05:18] <gouchi> Hi
[05:18] <firippu> pablo_uy: oh, and you have to press "e" to edit and "b" to boot if i remember right
[05:18] <dk> ty
[05:18] <Rookie-> 900 users ... all say hi to gouchi
[05:18] <torpedo|dog> gouchi: Hello.
[05:18] <gouchi> :)
[05:18] <kishore> gouchi, hi
[05:18] <torpedo|dog> Do you need any help with anything? :)
[05:18] <eod_punk> hi gouchi
[05:18] <dk> heya partna
[05:19] <pablo_uy> firippu: ok many thanks ill try! :)
[05:19] <Neo8750> all i want to do is erase across a straight line and i can't find it in gimp
[05:19] <Almindor> is there a way to directly mount a .bin/.cue?
[05:19] <ubuntunoob> i can't get any sound....
[05:20] <erUSUL> !sound
[05:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:20] <cherubiel> Neo8750: you should try #gimp
[05:20] <erUSUL> Almindor: no afaik
[05:20] <gouchi> Almindor : if it's to see video you can try directly with MPlayer, mplayer cue://track, otherwise use bchunk  to move it to iso
[05:21] <firippu> pablo_uy: in order to get it to boot like that every time you will need to more than likely edit your grub.conf
[05:21] <Neo8750> cherubiel: well i got agrivated and closed it so to late now
[05:21] <firippu> not sure if using the edit mode on grub commits the changes to disk or not
[05:21] <gouchi> does anyone succeed to modprobe uvcvideo  ?
[05:21] <cherubiel> patience my friend, patience!
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> redloff: first think you need to do, is change cups so it listens on the ip address of your machine, not localhost.
[05:21] <Almindor> gouchi, I don't have mplayer but I might try, thanks
[05:21] <pablo_uy> firippu: so what sould i do then?
[05:21] <Neo8750> cherubiel: it looked like crap and the idea just wasn't working
[05:21] <gouchi> I try but I have this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/CpSqoQ61.html
[05:21] <fyrestrtr> Almindor: use bchunk to convert it to an iso, then mount it using mount.
[05:21] <eyequeue> firippu, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:21] <Almindor> yeah
[05:21] <Neo8750> need someone with artistic ablity to bring my idea to life
[05:22] <Paladine> hire a graphic designer
[05:22] <eyequeue> firippu, sudo update-grub
[05:22] <firippu> well try boooting with that kernel option and see if you get the desired effect, if so go from there
[05:22] <dk> after i install stuff from the universe, what dir can i find them in
[05:22] <gouchi> Almindor : np
[05:22] <eyequeue> dk, dir?
[05:22] <dk> directorty
[05:22] <redloff> fyrestrtr, I did that already to enable browsing in cups web interface, I have "Allow all" everywhere in cupsd.conf
[05:22] <Paladine> dk, most things you install via synaptic should appear in your menu
[05:22] <fyrestrtr> dk: depends what you installed.
[05:22] <dk> or folder
[05:22] <dk> bmp
[05:22] <quiet> /usr/bin
[05:23] <dk> ok
[05:23] <Paladine> it should be in your applications menu
[05:23] <Paladine> under sound and video
[05:23] <dk> i needed to know
[05:23] <eyequeue> dk, most packages are spread throughout the filesystem, not a particular directory
[05:23] <dk> because i click on a internet playlist
[05:23] <dk> it asks me what program to oepn it with
[05:23] <dk> and bmp is not in the list
[05:23] <quiet> it's in /usr/bin
[05:23] <dk> only xmms, so i have to find it
[05:23] <dk> k ty
[05:23] <quiet> it will be afetr yo uselect it the first time
[05:23] <quiet> after you*
[05:23] <realist> dpkg -L <foo>
[05:23] <erUSUL> redloff: if you are using cups for more than managing a local printer you'd better enable its web interface that is quite powerfull (more than the gnome tool) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface
[05:23] <eyequeue> dk, /usr/bin/beep-media-player is only one of the many files in that package
[05:23] <realist> Will tell you where <foo>'s files are located
[05:24] <dk> if it wasnt in /usr/bin , for example a diff app, how abouts would i find it
[05:24] <fyrestrtr> dk: it will be in applications > sound and video
[05:24] <eyequeue> dk, killall gnome-panel, then it will be in your menu
[05:24] <cherubiel> dk: do an updatedb and then a locate 'appname;
[05:24] <Ackeubu_> magnet... what??? what should i do then?? to see sda devices?
[05:24] <dk> like, there is no option for me to right click a shortcut and check its properties to see where the root file is
[05:24] <quiet> not locate
[05:24] <dk> thats what i want to find out
[05:24] <quiet> that's silly
[05:24] <eyequeue> dk, define "a shortcut"
[05:25] <quiet> do `which beep-media-player`
[05:25] <fyrestrtr> dk: easy way, is to run dpkg -L nameofpackage -- it will tell you where it put all the files.
[05:25] <dk> i click on application, sound and video, then bmp
[05:25] <magnet> Ackeubu_: reinstall ubuntu :)
[05:25] <magnet> Ackeubu_: and don't select LVM
[05:25] <dk> oh ok
[05:25] <dk> sonds good
[05:25] <drole> hI. DOes anyoNe kNows were To geT Codecs for Totem? i can't play my Avi files? ;(
[05:25] <erUSUL> !caps
[05:25] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:25] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > drole
[05:26] <Paladine> !restricted > drole
[05:26] <phanter> hello there
[05:26] <eyequeue> erUSUL, true, i shouldn't have answered him perhaps
[05:26] <dk> i hope im loggin all this great info :D
[05:26] <dk> gota setup xchat
[05:26] <james296> how can I change my default media player?
[05:26] <fyrestrtr> drole: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:26] <Almindor> fyrestrtr, gouchi is it normal that I got 2 isos from bchunk?
[05:26] <Homicide187> anyone know why i would get a bus error in azureus at line 112?
[05:26] <brittman914> How do I get my USB controller to start working again? dmesg was telling me something about the controller being set to the wrong IRQ, but I have everything set to PnP in the BIOS and ubuntu should autoconfigure it, correct?
[05:27] <Ackeubu_> magnet not an option. I also try to install gentoo. but i have issues with root device. when booting gentoo itaint finding my /dev/sda3 howcome? LVM?
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> Almindor: generally, no.
[05:27] <Mouldy> Hey all! Firefox and flash sound is being odd for me. I've managed to get it working, but whenever I have an app like rhythmbox playing music, I have "Stop" the music (not just pause), reload firefox and then play the flash file. Any ideas how to fix this? I assume it has something to do with ESD?
[05:27] <james296> ???
[05:27] <jc-denton> i cannot play the dvd i inserted
[05:27] <gouchi> drole : try install libxine-extracodecs if you are using totem-xine otherwise install gstreamer0.10-* (ffmpeg, plugins ...)
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> Mouldy: you probably want !dmix
[05:27] <erUSUL> eyequeue: well he was not exactly shouting but is not easy to read either... XD
[05:27] <drole> Thanks for the help
[05:27] <jc-denton> but of course i did anything just as described on RestrictedFormats in the wiki
[05:27] <Homicide187> ./azureus: line 112: 15640 Bus error               ${JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR}java -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp "${CLASSPATH}" -Djava.library.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" -Dazureus.install.path="${PROGRAM_DIR}" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main "$@"
[05:27] <Homicide187> Azureus TERMINATED.
[05:27] <Mouldy> fyrestrtr, Thanks, I shall check that out
[05:27] <Mouldy> !dmix
[05:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:27] <Homicide187> thats the error
[05:27] <cherubiel> !wireless
[05:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:27] <fyrestrtr> jc-denton: install the codecs -- see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:28] <james296> can anyone help me here?
[05:28] <magnet> !LVM
[05:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:28] <RMorris84> if i were to buy an external hard drive case how would i set it up once in ubuntu?
[05:28] <jc-denton> fyrestrtr: see above
[05:28] <phanter> when I try to visit a website that needs login I get the error "error trying to validate certificate from foo.foo.com using OCSP - corrupted or unknown respons. Error Code: -8073". I get this with all this kind of websites. What could be the problem?
[05:28] <magnet> Ackeubu_: check this out
whats' the question?
[05:28] <Bazzi> RMorris84: automagically
[05:28] <magnet> !LVM > Ackeubu_
[05:28] <jc-denton> dvds should work out of the box
[05:28] <Paladine> Homicide187, have you selected the correct java package?
[05:28] <james296> how do I set my default media player?
[05:28] <Ackeubu_> magnet okayu thanks
[05:28] <quiet> RMorris84: just partition and format it and add the partitions to /etc/fstAB
[05:28] <quiet> fstab*
[05:28] <jc-denton> and if not then at least the description should work
[05:28] <james296> like how can I change it to a different player
[05:28] <dk> welp switching from kde to gnome is taking some gettin used to
[05:28] <fyrestrtr> jc-denton: no, they should not :) But if you installed all the codecs and followed all the instructions on that page, then they should.
[05:28] <phanter> or are there any known issues with OCSP lately?
[05:28] <dk> but im liking gnome a lot
[05:29] <Homicide187> well, im not too sure which one to use, i am running 64-bit daper drake
[05:29] <quiet> james296: you set it for each file type.. in the properties..
[05:29] <ciaron> hmm i've booted from the desktop cd and it doesn't seem to have mounted my ntfs drives, is that normal?
[05:29] <dk> kde was easier to use
[05:29] <RMorris84> Bazzi: quiet: i just hooked it up and rebooted and now im back in how do i see if its detected?
[05:29] <Paladine> you have to be using Sun's java for az to work properly and ubuntu automagically configures java to use the free version
[05:29] <jc-denton> fyrestrtr: do you like to waste your time with installing stuff :)
[05:29] <Bazzi> RMorris84: is it usb?
[05:29] <Paladine> or rather the open version as opposed to Suns closed
[05:29] <james296> in what properties?
[05:29] <RMorris84> Bazzi: yes...
[05:29] <Paladine> I suggest you join #azureus
[05:29] <Bazzi> RMorris84: lsusb in console should show it
[05:29] <BadManiac> Who can I bug with a few questions?
[05:29] <Casanova> which package contains the info pages?
[05:29] <fyrestrtr> jc-denton: depends, would I rather be wasting my time watching a dvd? :)
[05:30] <brittman914> the volume control has an option for #1:(my soundcard) is that right?
[05:30] <james296> ???
[05:30] <eyequeue> Casanova, the package it is about
[05:30] <jc-denton> i too
[05:30] <Casanova> eyequeue: ?
[05:30] <RMorris84> bob@Bob-Laptop:~$ lsusb Bus 005 Device 005: ID 04cf:8818 Myson Century, Inc. Fast 3.5" External Storage
[05:30] <eyequeue> Casanova, emacs would contain the emacs info, etc
[05:30] <Homicide187> Paladine, should i use jre 64-bit?
[05:30] <codecaine> how do you know when you have graphics acceleration?
[05:30] <codecaine> nvidia?
[05:30] <Casanova> oh
[05:30] <fyrestrtr> ciaron: it might have mounted them, and they don't show up on the desktop. Open up a terminal and type 'mount', or go system > administration > disks
[05:30] <Paladine> Homicide187, ask in #azureus
[05:30] <Homicide187> ok
[05:31] <jc-denton> libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x0007fb0c
[05:31] <jc-denton> libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB (0x0007fb0c)!!
[05:31] <Mouldy> fyrestrtr,  I don't think dmix is what I'm looking for, my sound works 100% except this one bug with firefox.
[05:31] <codecaine> I did glxgears the mode kinda medium pace
[05:31] <jc-denton> that's all i get
[05:31] <BadManiac> Is there a way to customize what Ubuntu comes preinstalled with?
[05:31] <RMorris84> Bazzi: how do i mount it and formatt it?
[05:31] <Paladine> BadManiac, alternative cd
[05:31] <eyequeue> BadManiac, you can make a custom cd, yes
[05:31] <fyrestrtr> Mouldy: there is a specific fix for flash and audio at the restrictedformats wiki entry, might want to explore that.
[05:31] <jc-denton> BadManiac: i use equivs for that
[05:31] <phanter> is there anybody that knows about any issue with OCSP? I cannot do my work without it. (my bank and everything usess it)
[05:31] <jc-denton> creates a package with just dependencies on other packages
[05:31] <Bazzi> RMorris84: gparted should do the job
[05:31] <ciaron> fyrestrtr: cheers, i'll give that a go
[05:31] <Mouldy> fyrestrtr, Thanks, *has a look*
[05:31] <BadManiac> alternate cd? will that let you select stuff during install, somehwat like an MS OS?
[05:32] <erUSUL> !install
[05:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:32] <Paladine> alternate cd will allow you to setup the system how you like, then build a new cd from it iirc
[05:32] <eyequeue> BadManiac, ubuntu is not like ms, sheesh
[05:32] <daurn|laptop> ok
[05:32] <daurn|laptop> how do i get a raid device to work at startup?
[05:32] <bib[1] > I can't find my php executeable.. On most systems I look up 'which php' , but on my ubuntu box it doesn't return anything, even though php's running fine. Any ideas?
[05:32] <BadManiac> yeah eye thanks, there's not quite enough people like you in the world. I needa  FEATURE that exists in many other OS'es.
[05:33] <eyequeue> !raid > daurn|laptop
[05:33] <mikim> hi.. need some help with rtl8180-0.21 anyone? msg me plx.
[05:33] <fyrestrtr> bib[1] : sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[05:33] <Ash-Fox> bib[1] , /usr/bin/php5? /usr/bin/php4?
[05:33] <BadManiac> no need to go all anti MS, it was a civilized question
[05:33] <eyequeue> BadManiac, well, tell us what you want to do, don't presume we have experience with ms
[05:33] <bib[1] > I'll look, thx
[05:33] <daurn|laptop> eyequeue: the command i need is: mdadm --build --level=linear --raid-devices=2 --auto=p /dev/mdp0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[05:33] <BadManiac> I want to chose what to install during the installation phase.
[05:33] <eyequeue> BadManiac, it was a nonsensical one in #ubuntu though
[05:33] <daurn|laptop>  - where can i put it to thats its executed before fstab?
[05:33] <erUSUL> BadManiac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[05:33] <Paladine> BadManiac, I just told you how to do it
[05:34] <eyequeue> BadManiac, run dselect from the server cd then
[05:34] <fyrestrtr> BadManiac: use the alternate install cd.
[05:34] <phanter> how can I "update" to an older version of a program
[05:34] <BadManiac> Yeah I know you did, thanks. Eye just couldn't leave the MS bashing alone
[05:34] <phanter> (openssh seems to have problems)
[05:34] <eyequeue> phanter, man apt-get
[05:34] <BadManiac> anyways, next one
[05:34] <RMorris84> Bazzi: its asking me for a desk label should i choose anything specific?
[05:34] <eyequeue> BadManiac, what does ms have to do with ubuntu?
[05:34] <jc-denton> it's a new dvd
[05:34] <daurn|laptop> eyequeue?
[05:34] <dk> whats a good alternative to xchat
[05:34] <fyrestrtr> BadManiac: take the bashing to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <dk> for gnome
[05:34] <eyequeue> phanter, man apt-get, the answer is within the man page
[05:34] <BadManiac> I'm not doing the bashing
[05:34] <jc-denton> so i guess that libdvdcss cannot decrypt it
[05:35] <erUSUL> phanter: sudo apt-get install package=packageversion (apt-cache policy package to see aviable versions)
[05:35] <Paladine> jc-denton, are you based in the UK?
[05:35] <jc-denton> what can i do
[05:35] <jc-denton> no switzerland
[05:35] <Paladine> same difference
[05:35] <BadManiac> jeez, screw this. nice community you are.
[05:35] <jc-denton> hu?
[05:35] <Paladine> a lot of dvd's being produced in europe at the moment have what is known as structure protection
[05:35] <jc-denton> ..
[05:35] <Paladine> what they basically do is completely cock up the authoring deliberately to confuse non windows players
[05:35] <Vegeta> Why is it that my internet connection sometimes disappear on ubuntu? It will come back when I disable and then enable the interface.. Why?
[05:35] <eyequeue> Paladine, what is the "structure" it talks so?  or is this an aka for drm or something?
[05:36] <Paladine> the only way you can get round it is to rip the dvd in windows then copy it to linux
[05:36] <eyequeue> Paladine, s/so/of/
[05:36] <jc-denton> or switch to windows
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> are there any really good 3d fps avail for ubuntu
[05:36] <daurn|laptop> how do i get this command to run on startup (before fstab): mdadm --build --level=linear --raid-devices=2 --auto=p /dev/mdp0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[05:36] <Paladine> I am currently in the process of following through a complaint with th European Commission based on their anti trust laws, to try and outlaw such practices
[05:36] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: tremulous is one good one.
[05:36] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: all of the id Software ones to begin with
[05:36] <jc-denton> Paladine: and what does the mplayer team, ubuntu, sues, etc against that?
[05:36] <phanter> oke I see, but there seem to be no older version of the package (and I upgraded it last week so there should be one)
[05:37] <daurn|laptop> any1?
can i do sudo apt-get install tremulous ?
[05:37] <Phoul> lol
[05:37] <Paladine> to my knowledge I am the only person who has made any official legal complaints about the situation
[05:37] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: no, you have to download the demo and try it out, then pay for it :)
[05:37] <jc-denton> Paladine: well thx for info about that
[05:37] <Paladine> I have demanded an investigation
 ah ok
[05:37] <jc-denton> Paladine: this should be mentioned on the wiki
 what specs do i need
[05:38] <Paladine> http://blog.paladine.org.uk/#item7136  <- copy of the letter I sent to the Office of Fair Trading after speaking to the EU Commission
[05:38] <jc-denton> so people at least know why it does not work
[05:38] <erUSUL> fyrestrtr: tremolous is free...isn't it?
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: 3d acceleration enabled, preferrably with non-retard drivers (aka, anything other than ATI)
[05:38] <jc-denton> so i have to boot windows now? :(
[05:38] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: is based on quake 2 ...
[05:38] <eyequeue> Paladine, thanks for sending that letter
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> erUSUL: I don't think so -- maybe I'm confusing it with Coldwar -- ah, yes, I am.
[05:38] <fyrestrtr> yes it is free.
 then im screwed ATI Radeon 9250 128vram
[05:39] <erUSUL> fyrestrtr: it works here with radeon drivers and mesa
[05:39] <Mouldy> fyrestrtr, I just did what the wiki said and now the sound is totally messed up and doesn't work at all :(
[05:39] <Paladine> eyequeue, I do a lot of work against the entertainment cartels
[05:39] <erUSUL> fyrestrtr: with a 9250
[05:39] <fyrestrtr> on my x300 it works fine too -- sorry, I got the two games confused :(
[05:39] <eyequeue> Paladine, good for you, i'm glad, since it needs doing
[05:39] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, give it a try, it will work. I got two really good games confused.
[05:39] <recon0> Does anybody know how to disable gnome-screensaver in favor of xscreensaver in dapper?
[05:39] <erUSUL> fyrestrtr: no problem ;)
[05:39] <abu_ama3ma> Is there a good way to use programs like Adobe Photoshop on Ubuntu
[05:40] <Mouldy> abu_ama3ma, You can run photoshop using WINE
[05:40] <daurnimator> hi all
[05:40] <erUSUL> abu_ama3ma: the only way is through wine
[05:40] <daurnimator> whats wrong here?:
[05:40] <daurnimator> ~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/mdp0p5 /mnt/Emulation
[05:40] <daurnimator> Failed to load $MFT: Input/output error
[05:40] <fyrestrtr> abu_ama3ma: use crossover office or wine.
[05:40] <daurnimator> Failed to startup volume: Input/output error
[05:40] <Paladine> abu_ama3ma, GIMP
[05:40] <idh> hi all..
[05:40] <daurnimator> Couldn't mount device '/dev/mdp0p5': Input/output error
[05:40] <daurnimator> Mount failed.
 wouldnt mind trying the free one first which game should i go for then
[05:40] <eyequeue> !paste > daurnimator
[05:40] <abu_ama3ma> is wine free?
[05:40] <Mouldy> yep
[05:40] <Paladine> don't waste your time with crossover office, install vmware server
[05:40] <eyequeue> !info wine
[05:40] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[05:40] <tizwon> Why when i run glxinfo i get - Error: unable to open display (null)
[05:40] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: enemy territory is cool too (quake 3 based)
[05:40] <Paladine> works much much better than crossover
[05:41] <eyequeue> abu_ama3ma, you need to enable universe
[05:41] <eyequeue> !repos > abu_ama3ma
[05:41] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: I highly recommend Coldwar. Tremulous is free, Coldwar isn't.
[05:41] <daurnimator> eyequeue: no net browser
[05:41] <daurnimator> just irc
[05:41] <eyequeue> daurnimator, sudo apt-get install lynx
[05:42] <daurn|laptop> eyequeue: web browsing here only
[05:42] <bigjb> use links instead of lynx :P
[05:42] <daurn|laptop>  - and i want to keep it that way
 is tremulous on the repos
[05:42] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: alsa as i said all games from id software have linux version (quake 1 2 3 and doom 3....)
[05:42] <Paladine> vmware server == free and will run any non directx windows application :)
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: no.
[05:42] <eyequeue> daurn|laptop, pasting in channel will get you kickbanned, regardless of exuses however
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: you have to download it, and its a very straightforward install process.
[05:43] <daurn|laptop> eyequeue: can i pm you the error then?
[05:43] <ladydoor> !paste
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:43] <eyequeue> daurn|laptop, no, if you put it on pastebin, all can see it, not just one
[05:43] <eyequeue> daurn|laptop, additionally, i have zero exposure to ntfs anyway
[05:43] <daurn|laptop> ok
[05:43] <daurn|laptop> here
[05:43] <daurn|laptop> http://pastebin.ca/165169
[05:44] <daurn|laptop>  - pmed it to myself
[05:44] <daurn|laptop> :P
[05:44] <Vegeta^> Why is it that I randomly loss internet connection on ubuntu?
[05:44] <Paladine> Vegeta,  it is very unlikely that it is -anything- to do with ubuntu
[05:45] <erUSUL> Vegeta^: maybe taking a look at the system logs can shed light over the cause...
[05:45] <nownot> ok i need alot of help i cant boot i get grub error 15
[05:45] <heeehoww> does anyone use Serpentine?
[05:45] <ProN00b> anyone knows a Good, Gui ftp client thats for gnome ? (gftp is not good)
[05:45] <nownot> so im in live cd now but can someone pls help
[05:45] <eyequeue> good and ftp are contradictions
[05:45] <Paladine> ProN00b, nautilus :p
[05:45] <ProN00b> Paladine, not a client
[05:45] <erUSUL> ProN00b: ncftp2 (curses based)
[05:45] <eyequeue> ftp is a broken protocol, needs multiple ports even
[05:45] <Paladine> nautilus works fine as an ftp client
[05:45] <eyequeue> scp works well
[05:46] <ciaron> fyrestrtr: hmm the drive shows up in "Computer" but when i dbl click it says "cannot mount hda2 as this drive is not removable"
[05:46] <ciaron> same with hda1
[05:46] <fyrestrtr> ermm, no it doesn't. Nautilus has poor support for passive ftp.
[05:46] <ProN00b> erUSUL, i said gui, curses != gui !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:46] <daurn|laptop> so
[05:46] <daurn|laptop> any1care to explai my error?
[05:46] <daurn|laptop> http://pastebin.ca/165169
[05:46] <Paladine> I have had zero issues using nautilus for ftp
[05:46] <nownot> can someone pls help me im going crazy here
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> so have I, when I control the FTP server. Sometimes, it takes it 30 minutes to upload one file, when on another node on the same network, same server, its done in 5 minutes.
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> !grub > nownot
[05:47] <Vegeta^> erUSUL: Where do I find this log? Im a newbie I therefore dont know much about linux.
[05:47] <eyequeue> scp (1)              - secure copy (remote file copy program)
[05:47] <eyequeue> sftp (1)             - secure file transfer program
[05:47] <fyrestrtr> ciaron: are you sure they aren't mounted?
[05:47] <heeehoww> does anyone use Serpentine?
[05:47] <erUSUL> Vegeta^: System>Administration>system activity...
[05:48] <ciaron> fyrestrtr: they don't show up when i turn a mount command
[05:48] <ladydoor> !anyone
[05:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:48] <fyrestrtr> ciaron: pastebin the ouput of your mount command
[05:48] <ciaron> fyrestrtr: tis a different machine without net access
[05:48] <visik7> 5 minutes to edgy :)
[05:49] <fyrestrtr> ciaron: do a manual copy paste :)
[05:49] <erUSUL> visik7: so 5 minutes to #ubuntu+1 ;)
[05:49] <ciaron> its huge!
[05:49] <visik7> ya
[05:49] <ciaron> hang on i'll try mounting them manually
[05:49] <kishore> edgy means 6.10 ??
[05:49] <visik7> yes
[05:49] <|CADE|> visik7: eh? I thought edgy wasn't due till October?
[05:49] <visik7> |CADE|: infact
[05:49] <erUSUL> !edgy
[05:49] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:49] <ProN00b> *sob* theres no good ftp client for linux *sob*
[05:49] <henaro> It's hard to control mahself! o/
[05:49] <visik7> I'm installing the knot2
[05:49] <bib[1] > Thanks fyrestrtr . php4-cli is what i needed
[05:50] <visik7> that I think is alpha stage
[05:50] <erUSUL> |CADE|: you can make alpha testing if you like
[05:50] <visik7> just to increase the 6% of the user who use latesting bleeding ubuntu
[05:50] <FliesLikeALap> did anyone else get their e-mail to popcon last night rejected?\
[05:50] <bigjb> daurn|laptop: whats the device that you are trying to mount?
[05:50] <NEMSIZ> hi what is the standard password for unbuntu server?
[05:50] <FliesLikeALap> both of my ubuntu systems got the e-mail returned
[05:50] <visik7> like mark says
[05:50] <|CADE|> erUSUL: I'm aware - I could've started weeks upon weeks ago, but I prefer stable releases
[05:50] <nownot> fyrestrtr: thanks but that site does not help in any of my problems
[05:50] <|CADE|> which ought to be October
[05:50] <|CADE|> !schedule
[05:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:50] <damnhil> How do I load iptables? I got "FATAL: Module ip_tables not found."
[05:50] <eyequeue> NEMSIZ, pardon?
[05:50] <daurn|laptop> bigjb: ntfs partition in a logical partition in an extended partition in a JBOD array
[05:50] <damnhil> !iptables
[05:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:51] <NEMSIZ> hi what is the standard password for unbuntu server 6.06? i did a clean install
[05:51] <damnhil> NEMSIZ: there's no such thing
[05:51] <erUSUL> NEMSIZ: you should have been asked for a password during install process
[05:51] <dk> how come when i pidof gaim i get 2 values
[05:51] <Paladine> NEMSIZ, whatever you set the password to during install
[05:51] <Ubuntu_g1> hy evrybodies
[05:52] <damnhil> Ubuntu_g1: Do you know how to load iptables?
[05:52] <NEMSIZ> oke thanks i will install it again
[05:52] <bigjb> daurn|laptop: youve checked http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ ? because the error itself can relate to a boat load of different problems
[05:52] <Vegeta^> erUSUL: No such thing as "System activity", there is a system log, which is empty...
[05:53] <daurn|laptop> bigjb: its the same ntfs as another partition i've got mounted.
[05:53] <wladston> guys, sudo fdisk hda returns : "Unable to open hda" anyone have any hints ?
[05:53] <llindy> hello i was wondering if anyone knew why fonts arent working in flash objects im viewing on the web?
[05:53] <NEMSIZ> and what is the standard root password for unbuntu 6.06?
[05:53] <sbalneav> wladston: sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[05:53] <daurn|laptop> NEMSIZ: there isn't one
[05:53] <realist> NEMSIZ: there is none
[05:53] <eyequeue> NEMSIZ, pardon?  no such thing, we don't do root
[05:53] <sbalneav> Assuming you have a /dev/hda
[05:53] <quiet> NEMSIZ: there isn't one
[05:53] <RMorris84> i just bout 2 usb 2.0 hd cases, one for 2.5 and one for 3.5 and when i plug up my 2.5 it says usb disk on my desktop when i plug in the 3.5 it doesnt... whats gong on here
[05:53] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > NEMSIZ
[05:53] <NEMSIZ> oke thanks
[05:53] <MageZ> someone plays warcraft 3 in wine?
[05:53] <wladston> sbalneav: thanks very much!! I'm recently here in lunux :)
[05:53] <realist> NEMSIZ: it's disabled by default.
[05:54] <llindy> hello i was wondering if anyone knew why fonts arent working in flash objects im viewing on the web?
[05:54] <|DuReX|> hi guys, i'm trying to add a HDD to my software raid5 with mdadm, and i get md: sdb has invalid sb, not importing!
[05:54] <realist> !tell realist rootsudo
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell realist rootsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <dk> for warcraft use cedega
[05:54] <|DuReX|> does somebody got an id ?
[05:54] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > realist
[05:54] <Ubuntu_g1> I've just create my raid 1 (software linux dapper server). It's all ok,. now i try to disconect my sdb and i try to restart. it's all ok but in my dmesg i read: raid set md0 active with 1 of 2 mirrors. why? could anyone help me? tks
[05:54] <realist> eyequeue: cheers ;p
[05:54] <quiet> NEMSIZ: if you want to use root just 'sudo su -' and then 'passwd'
[05:54] <quiet> to set a root password
[05:54] <MageZ> but cedega i have to pay?
[05:54] <eyequeue> NEMSIZ, no!
[05:54] <eyequeue> quiet, please don't advise that in here
[05:54] <Paladine> Magez, yeah a whole 5 bucks a month
[05:55] <jbmigel> whats up with all that sudo stuff anyway... I dont see what it gets us
[05:55] <quiet> i didn't advise it... i just told him how to do it...
[05:55] <eyequeue> jbmigel, security
[05:55] <damnhil> can anyone try "sudo iptables -L" and report the result to me?
[05:55] <MageZ> Paladine: war3 is woking pretty good in wine
[05:55] <bigjb> daurn|laptop: it been the same is irrelevant, it could be a hundred different underlying problems with the partition itself
[05:55] <quiet> and... why the heck not?? who cares if you 'enable' root??  root is part of unix.
[05:55] <eyequeue> quiet, of he wants to do something dangerous, let him decide it for himself after reading the web page
[05:55] <quiet> it's silly to completely disable it.
[05:55] <Ubuntu_g1> damnhil, why????
[05:55] <MageZ> I just have a little problem
[05:55] <eyequeue> quiet, it is a design choice made by ubuntu
[05:56] <jbmigel> eyequeue i think it might be less secure, if someone gets my plain user password they can run any command on my comp
[05:56] <Paladine> its a very sensible choice too
[05:56] <|DuReX|> somebody ? :(
[05:56] <eyequeue> jbmigel, bring it up with ubuntu security team, they disagree with you on that
[05:56] <Paladine> seeing as ubuntu is probably the biggest (read as most popular) linux distro it is only a matter of time until people start to try and exploit it with malware etc
[05:56] <MageZ> Paladine: do u know how to play wine as window?
[05:56] <llindy> hello i was wondering if anyone knew why fonts arent working in flash objects im viewing on the web?
[05:56] <Vegeta^> erUSUL: Could the cause be that I have the wireless activated as well, when Im using ethernet? BEcause there is SOMETIMES connection with the wireless (not my). Could that interfer?
[05:56] <Paladine> having no root login makes that very difficult
[05:56] <llindy> can sum1 help me?
[05:56] <ProN00b> not running as root = 4 pussies
[05:57] <Paladine> MageZ, I use cedega
[05:57] <|DuReX|> hi guys, i'm trying to add a HDD to my software raid5 with mdadm, and i get md: sdb has invalid sb, not importing!, any id how to fix that ?
[05:57] <MageZ> Paladine: =/
[05:57] <eyequeue> !lanfuage > ProN00b
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanfuage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <quiet> 4 of them?
[05:57] <eyequeue> !language > ProN00b
[05:57] <Paladine> ProN00b, talking like that in this channel will get your banned, watch your language
[05:57] <nvl-> Is it possbile to change level on an log in irssi?
[05:57] <jbmigel> eyequeue lol i wasnt trying to pick a fight you know... just curious... one can always enable root and remove sudo
[05:57] <MageZ> Paladine: ok, thx
[05:57] <|CADE|> ProN00b: Not running as root is also for people who have common sense and want to protect their computer.
[05:57] <Ubuntu_g1> could anyone help me aboute mdadm resyncing with rai 1??
[05:57] <ProN00b> whats with all the little kids in here ?
[05:57] <llindy> can sum1 help me with flash in ubuntu
[05:57] <sbalneav> ProN00b: I've been a systems administrator for over 20 years.  You should NEVER run as root unless you need to.
[05:57] <eyequeue> jbmigel, "can" != "should" however
[05:57] <llindy> yeah dont run root unless u need too
[05:58] <ProN00b> |CADE|, i got root on your box mwahahaha
[05:58] <llindy> lol
[05:58] <rapiscan> hey guys, does anybody have eclipse running on Ubuntu?  I'm not very familiar with Java, but I want to learn to use eclipse.  I've installed the java SDK, and I've extracted eclipse, but I get this error when trying to run eclipse:  java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: eclipse not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./] , parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[] , parent=null}}
[05:58] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, Hy, could i ask you about my rai 1??
[05:58] <|CADE|> ProN00b: Go swallow a knife. kthxbai
[05:58] <ProN00b> sbalneav, so i guess you do your administration work from a user account with sudo ?
[05:58] <rapiscan> I've updated the $PATH to include the eclipse directory.
[05:58] <llindy> hey guys can someone help me rite quick?
[05:58] <kishore> hi all
[05:58] <sbalneav> ProN00b: Yep.
[05:58] <|CADE|> sbalneav: I concur. Using sudo is a far safer method, imo. Especially since on a network, you can disable sudo priveleges based upon users
[05:58] <ProN00b> sbalneav, ahahahahahahhahahahahha, fail+10 for you
[05:59] <boricua> apache issue i have the link for mods enable but i cant open php pages lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   37 2006-07-31 11:35 php5.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf
[05:59] <Paladine> Pro, I suggest you leave
[05:59] <sbalneav> ProN00b: My paycheque says otherwise.
[05:59] <eyequeue> ProN00b, please don't troll in #ubuntu
[05:59] <|DuReX|> hi guys, i'm trying to add a HDD to my software raid5 with mdadm, and i get md: sdb has invalid sb, not importing!, any id how to fix that ?
[05:59] <Blissex> llindy: ask direct detailed questions and wait 10 min for an answer, and then repeat.
[05:59] <kishore> menu bar disappeared suddenly
[05:59] <pfein_> any tips on installing from DOS/loadlin?
[05:59] <Blissex> |DuReX|: consider carefully what you are doing...
[05:59] <fyrestrtr> rapiscan: make sure you are using the sun jvm (sudo update-alternatives --config java)
[05:59] <kishore> dont know any reason.. sometimes happening like this
[05:59] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: What about your raid 1?
[06:00] <|DuReX|> Blissex what u mean ?
[06:00] <Ubuntu_g1> |DuReX|, sorry, do you know hot to resyncing a raid 1 with sda and sdb. ??
[06:00] <realist> |CADE|: not to mention sudo leaves an audit trail
[06:00] <ProN00b> eyequeue, i don't troll, i just say what i think
[06:00] <|CADE|> realist: Quite true.
[06:00] <rapiscan> fyrestrtr, I am running on a dual G5, so I had to download the IBM SDK, is this a problem?
[06:00] <|DuReX|> not really Ubuntu_g1
[06:00] <Blissex> |DuReX|: are you willing to lose the existing contents of that RAID5?
[06:00] <realist> (Unless one were to use sudo to esacpe into another shell)
[06:00] <eyequeue> ProN00b, personal attacks are not appreciated in here
[06:01] <|DuReX|> Blissex ofc not
[06:01] <|CADE|> ProN00b: The problem with claiming that using root user over sudo, is that you aren't really THINKING in the first place.
[06:01] <ProN00b> eyequeue, just because you and many other people think running as root is bad doesn't mean everybody thinks that way
[06:01] <Paladine> ProN00b, you are not entitled to say what you think in this channel, it is a support channel not a ProN00b's opinion channel.
[06:01] <jbmigel> i would prefer some for of sudo that needs a different password than the one i type every day to login
[06:01] <Blissex> |DuReX|: then read carefully the warnings on the label :-).
[06:01] <fyrestrtr> rapiscan: hrmm, could be. You might have to configure the paths manually for your jvm.
[06:01] <eyequeue> ProN00b, ubuntu policy
[06:01] <rapiscan> I downloaded the ppc version of Eclipse, and their support page showed that ppc processors were now supported.
[06:01] <|DuReX|> what warnings ?
[06:01] <|DuReX|> wtf
[06:01] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: If you've built it with the standard mdadm tools, it should rebuild automatically on reboot
[06:01] <ProN00b> eyequeue, also, see what others tell me to do, someone suggested i should swallow a knife and nobody said a word
[06:01] <sbalneav> check /proc/mdstat for details.
[06:02] <rapiscan> Ok, any tips on that? Or should I just start searching the net.
[06:02] <eyequeue> ProN00b, i suspect you should notice that your attacks have gained you disfavour
[06:02] <|DuReX|> Blissex: i added like 3 hdd's yet to my raid5
[06:02] <ProN00b> Paladine, every channel is a "ProN00b's opinion channel." as long as i am there
[06:02] <realist> ProN00b: what goes around, comes around.
[06:02] <|DuReX|> and then grow
[06:02] <|DuReX|> worked perfectly
[06:02] <|DuReX|> without losing data
[06:02] <ProN00b> eyequeue, ya, lols
[06:02] <|DuReX|> now i want to add a last one, and i get that error
[06:02] <fyrestrtr> rapiscan: you can just do something like export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/your/ibm/jvm and then run eclipse -- or, you can edit your eclipse shortcut and add that line.
[06:02] <eyequeue> ProN00b, please take them elsewhere, this channel observes the CoC
[06:02] <ProN00b> realist, if its like that, then don't point me to some friggin rules
[06:02] <Paladine> !ontopic
[06:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:03] <quiet> what's the CoC?
[06:03] <jbmigel> eyequeue Coc?
[06:03] <ProN00b> eyequeue, the what ? ^__^
[06:03] <eyequeue> !CoC
[06:03] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:03] <|CADE|> Code of Conduct
[06:03] <Paladine> Code of Conduct
[06:03] <|CADE|> sheesh
[06:03] <rapiscan> fyrestrtr, ok thanks, I'll look into that.
[06:03] <ladydoor> jbmigel: you could set a *very* secure root password and su to root instead
[06:03] <ProN00b> lols
[06:03] <nownot> can someone pls help me w/ my grub problem
[06:03] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, hy. I've just make my raid 1 with 2 hd (sda and sdb) mounted in md0. 10 minutes ago, i tried to disconect my sdb ( to chech if sda restart - all ok). now i've reconnected my sdb, but i read in /proc/mdtstat that i'm using only one disk. i tried to rebopot anoter tiome but it's the same.
[06:03] <Ademan> isn't there a command line program that can convert between image formats?
[06:03] <llindy> whats the default root password for ubuntu
[06:03] <eyequeue> convert (1)          - convert between image formats as well as resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither, draw on, flip, join, re-sample, and much more.
[06:03] <thedash> is there any way to get ubuntu to read file.partXX.rar files?
[06:03] <quiet> there isn't one
[06:03] <eyequeue> Ademan, ^^
[06:03] <llindy> thnx quiet
[06:03] <|CADE|> llindy: Ubuntu, by default, doesn't make a root user.
[06:03] <|CADE|> ;)
[06:03] <llindy> ill try without one
[06:03] <Ademan> llindy: the password you used when you installed
[06:04] <Blissex> Ademan: there is at least one.
[06:04] <llindy> oh okay
[06:04] <quiet> it does to make a root user.
[06:04] <quiet> goof ball.
[06:04] <Paladine> !imagemagick > Ademan
[06:04] <RMorris84> i just bout a 2.5" usb disk case and it shows up on my desktop... how do i write files to it? :)
[06:04] <quiet> you cna't NOT have a root user.
[06:04] <llindy> i tried the password i made when i isntalled
[06:04] <quiet> it's just locked
[06:04] <llindy> it didnt work
[06:04] <|CADE|> aye
[06:04] <rapiscan> fyrestrtr, a quick follow up question.  If I type $JAVA_PATH and that var doesn't appear to be set, then that is likely the problem right? As noted above.
[06:04] <llindy> but im trying to edit xorg.conf
[06:04] <llindy> i get permission denied
[06:04] <ProN00b> |CADE|, thats just wrong, it just doesn't asign a password to the root user and so disables it
[06:04] <eyequeue> llindy, sudo
[06:04] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: can you list the command you used to re-add /dev/sdb?
[06:04] <llindy> assuming that i need to su to root
[06:04] <quiet> llindy: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:04] <codecaine> how do I disable ipv6?
[06:04] <ladydoor> llindy: you need to use sudo (after backing it up!)
[06:04] <pfein_> has anyone installed via LOADLIN?  having issues with initrd...
[06:04] <llindy> okay thanks you
[06:04] <eyequeue> llindy, sudo, not su
[06:04] <ladydoor> llindy: use nano -w instead
[06:04] <llindy> i am trying to get my fonts in flash to work
[06:04] <ladydoor> llindy: of vi
[06:04] <quiet> you can sudo su -
[06:04] <llindy> so far all i can find on this problem
[06:04] <eyequeue> quiet, NO
[06:05] <eyequeue> quiet, sheesh
[06:05] <llindy> is that i need to add some fonts in that file
[06:05] <Ubuntu_g1> no. It's a new installation, i create raid 1 with the installation dapper menu.
[06:05] <Paladine> quiet, you are breaking the regulations for this channel, stop telling people to enable root login
[06:05] <llindy> anyone know what might be causing it?
[06:05] <quiet> wth??  I DIDN'T TELL ANYONE TO ENABLE ROOT!
[06:05] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav,  no. It's a new installation, i create raid 1 with the installation dapper menu.
[06:05] <ladydoor> llindy: so do sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf, after copying it to your home dir
[06:05] <ladydoor> llindy: wait, i mean making a copy in *that* dir. lol
[06:05] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > quiet
[06:05] <llindy> thnx ladydoor
[06:05] <quiet> yeah i'm well aware, thanks.
[06:05] <ProN00b> hay every1 please all of you enable root !
[06:06] <eyequeue> okay, that's enough
[06:06] <boricua> again cant open php pages in apache 2 after enabling module
[06:06] <ProN00b> lols, thats against channel regoulations ?
[06:06] <jbmigel> eyequeue this CoC is the weirdest looking EULA i have ever read
[06:06] <eyequeue> !ops
[06:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:06] <thedash> how to get ubuntu to read file.partXX.rar files?
[06:06] <llindy> ladydoor:  do you know what might be causing the problem i am having with fonts not working in flash animations?
[06:06] <Amaranth> eyequeue: ?
[06:06] <eyequeue> Amaranth, please /lastlog ProN00b
[06:06] <ProN00b> llindy, i think flash sometimes needs fonts from microsoft
[06:06] <eyequeue> Amaranth, it's been quite the saga
[06:06] <ladydoor> quiet: as good an editor as vi is, it might be best to encourage newer users to use something more user-friendly & less powerful, like nano (that goes for emacs too--no prosthelytising would be best)
[06:06] <|DuReX|> Blissex: can i pm you plz ?
[06:06] <RMorris84> i just bought a 2.5" usb disk case and it shows up on my desktop... how do i write files to it?
[06:07] <ProN00b> llindy, did you try installing those ?
[06:07] <llindy> flash needs fonts from microsoft sometimes?
[06:07] <llindy> no i havent
[06:07] <llindy> i do not understand how to
[06:07] <Amaranth> eyequeue: Looks fun.
[06:07] <ProN00b> llindy, yeah, i experienced this once, didn't work bevore i installed them, worked after
[06:07] <ladydoor> llindy: i don't htink it's an x problem...i think it might be that the linux version of flash is a little older and that the m$ core fonts aren't installed by default
[06:07] <Blissex> |DuReX|: yes...
[06:07] <bretzel> hi there!!! Is there a web site where we can push our screenshots ? ( I mean, specific Ubuntu shots ) :-)
[06:07] <ProN00b> llindy, there is a package with an installer for microsoft fonts in universe i think
[06:07] <Amaranth> eyequeue: He seems to be fine now, no?
[06:07] <eyequeue> Amaranth, got half the populous cranked, heh
[06:07] <Amaranth> eyequeue: btw, I never knew about /lastlog, thanks :)
[06:07] <llindy> ladydoor:  is there a package with those fonts i can install?
[06:08] <eyequeue> Amaranth, in the past 5 seconds, since the !ops, perhaps
[06:08] <thedash> can the archive manager be modified to read .rar files?
[06:08] <LightTitan> I am back into Linux! Finally!
[06:08] <LightTitan> Ok, first question... how do I check my kernal number?
[06:08] <eyequeue> Amaranth, cool command, i wish xchat had it :)
[06:08] <nownot> how do i set a patition  bootable in fdisk
[06:08] <quiet> llindy: install msttcorefonts
[06:08] <Amaranth> eyequeue: xchat-gnome has it :P
[06:08] <bretzel> me back to ubuntu and really feel better!
[06:08] <ProN00b> eyequeue, i just turned stealth troll mode on
[06:08] <eyequeue> thedash, watch the bot
[06:08] <eyequeue> !rar > thedash
[06:08] <bretzel> !screenshots
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenshots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <ladydoor> llindy: try sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[06:08] <llindy> quiet: where can i find that?
[06:08] <jbmigel> LightTitan :uname -a"
[06:08] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, are you still here??
[06:08] <quiet> !info msttcorefonts
[06:08] <ProN00b> llindy, in synaptic
[06:08] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[06:08] <llindy> thnx ladydoor lemme try now
[06:09] <ladydoor> llindy: sweet! good luck
[06:09] <LightTitan> jbmigel Thanks :)
[06:09] <bretzel> !screenshots repo please, I would want to push some of mine
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenshots repo please, I would want to push some of mine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Rookie-> !xdtv
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <llindy> ladydoor:  it asked for a password
[06:09] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: yes, just doing some reading, how did you detach sdb?
[06:09] <ladydoor> llindy: enter the password you used to log in
[06:09] <llindy> but if root is disable in ubuntu
[06:09] <llindy> okay
[06:09] <sbalneav> How you did that will determine how we need to re-attach it
[06:09] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, I've halted my pc, and i diconect my sdb.
[06:09] <JacX> used easy ubuntu to try ti install Nvidia drivers, it dowloaded them, something poped up in a window, but I closed it on accident, now the option is greyed out adn the drivers aren't installed
[06:10] <llindy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:10] <llindy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:10] <LightTitan> I am running the 386 kernal and want to update to the 686... where do I start
[06:10] <ladydoor> llindy: sudo prompts for your password, because you have semi-locked superuser privileges that can only be accessed with sudo
[06:10] <ladydoor> llindy: do you have synaptic or aptitude open?
[06:10] <Amaranth> llindy: Is synaptic open?
[06:10] <ladydoor> llindy: if so, close them
[06:10] <llindy> okay hold on
[06:10] <vdepizzol> hello
[06:10] <ichmbch> can i install ubuntu on intel based Mac?
[06:10] <jbmigel> LightTitan you wont notice any difference, but all you need to do is choose your new kernel in synaptic
[06:10] <eyequeue> ichmbch, certainly
[06:10] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: what do you see for a status when you look at /proc/mdstat
[06:10] <llindy> ladydoor:  it says it installed it
[06:11] <eyequeue> ichmbch, use the i386 disks
[06:11] <llindy> ladydoor:  should i reboot the system and try or restart firefox and try?
[06:11] <eyequeue> LightTitan, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[06:11] <LightTitan> jbmigel Thanks... I believe you are probably correct but my buddy says I should upgrade to it so I am just gonna go ahead and do it. I will be back later when I get it done.
[06:11] <JacX> I'm having problems with easy ubuntu...
[06:11] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, only one disk :-(
[06:11] <quiet> JacX: don't use it.
[06:11] <ladydoor> llindy: you only need to reboot to install new kernels :-). just try restarting firefox
[06:11] <eyequeue> !easyubuntu
[06:11] <LightTitan> eyequeue ok, writing that down too. THanks.
[06:11] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:11] <Episteme73> Where can i go to ask simple bash script questions? (just learning)
[06:12] <Paladine> JacX, to be expected, avoid all "do it all for you" scripts including easyubuntu and automatix
[06:12] <sbalneav> OK, but does it say it's rebuilding?
[06:12] <quiet> JacX: best to just follow simple instructions at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:12] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, mdo: active raid sda1[0] 
[06:12] <ladydoor> Episteme73: here may work. just go ahead and ask :-)
[06:12] <vdepizzol> I'm trying to use my network card, but it lights are off
[06:12] <llindy> ladydoor:  it said it has completed will i need to reboot the system in order to use it?
[06:12] <Ubuntu_g1> no, i dont read rebuildin in /proc/mdstat
[06:13] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: Gimme a minute to look something up.  Does sdb exist? i.e. does the kernel see it in dmesg?
[06:13] <ladydoor> llindy:  as i said...< ladydoor> llindy: you only need to reboot to install new kernels :-). just try restarting firefox
[06:13] <llindy> i tried restarting firefox
[06:13] <Episteme73> ladydoor thanks. how do I evoke mplayer in a bash script > mplayer /bla/bla/file.mpg doesn't seem to work
[06:13] <llindy> and it still doesnt show fonts in flash animations
[06:13] <POVaddct> ahhh, those were the days: http://84.179.90.32:28362/
[06:13] <llindy> ladydoor: i tried restarting firefox and it still doesnt show fonts in flash animations
[06:13] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, yes
[06:13] <ladydoor> Episteme73: what's the > for? and you should probably ask out loud
[06:13] <ProN00b> llindy, what flash animation are you exactly talking about ?
[06:13] <eyequeue> Episteme73, tried /usr/bin/mplayer ?
[06:13] <ladydoor> llindy: oh...weird
[06:14] <llindy> WWW.RR.COM/FLASH/INDEX.CFM
[06:14] <llindy> sorry caps
[06:14] <llindy> trying to get my homepage to work
[06:14] <vdepizzol> anyone can help me?
[06:14] <ladydoor> !anyone
[06:14] <Episteme73> I'll try that now... 2 secs
[06:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:14] <llindy> i know its a font problem i suppose
[06:14] <quiet> POVaddct: reminds me of FastTrackerII kind of..
[06:14] <eyequeue> Episteme73, scripts don't always have the PATH you expect them to :)
[06:14] <POVaddct> quiet: way older than fasttracker
[06:14] <quiet> yeah i know
[06:15] <ProN00b> llindy, where does that not display fonts where it should ?
[06:15] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: in your /etc/mdadm.conf file, does the DEVICE line list both /dev/sda and sdb?
[06:15] <POVaddct> quiet: this one is from atari st (though the original amiga tracker looked quite the same)
[06:15] <llindy> it doesnt display any fonts on the sidebar menu navigation or anything
[06:15] <quiet> nice.
[06:15] <ProN00b> llindy, you mean the states ?
[06:15] <Amaranth> llindy: worst perfectly here
[06:15] <Amaranth> err, works
[06:15] <llindy> no not the states
[06:15] <llindy> yeah well i went thru that too
[06:15] <llindy> the states
[06:15] <llindy> and none of them had text too
[06:15] <llindy> but i clicked on florida lol
[06:16] <skar> will easy ubuntu add the repos necessary to install the bin codecs and nvidia drivers?
[06:16] <Episteme73> no, using /usr/bin/mplayer didn't work either. There must be something else I'm unaware of.
[06:16] <ProN00b> llindy, the list with the states on the right shows
[06:16] <Paladine> skar, use easyubuntu at your own risk
[06:16] <eyequeue> skar, ask #easyubuntu, we don't support that in here
[06:16] <Amaranth> llindy: and i don't have msttcorefonts installed so that's not it
[06:16] <llindy> well it doesnt show for me
[06:16] <llindy> lol
[06:16] <llindy> which is why i am trying to fix it
[06:16] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, nothing, only device partitions and array /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-dvices=2 etc etc uid....
[06:16] <ProN00b> llindy, maybe you didn't install those ms fonts correctly
[06:16] <Amaranth> i am using epiphany instead of firefox though
[06:16] <llindy> maybe not
[06:16] <llindy> i dont know
[06:16] <Amaranth> ProN00b: the fonts aren't needed
[06:17] <ProN00b> Amaranth, not ?
[06:17] <quiet> flash generally embeds the fonts in the movie.
[06:17] <ProN00b> o rly ? ()
[06:17] <Amaranth> ProN00b: Nope, it works fine here and I don't have them.
[06:17] <ProN00b> hmm
[06:17] <ProN00b> ok
[06:17] <llindy> thats what i thought but i google my problem
[06:17] <max_> Hey I'm using Ubuntu Dapper Drake and I was wondering if theres anything better to listen to music on rather then Totem, I listen to my music over a network which has samba installed and alot of these music players won't work. Any one know a good one for listening to music over the network?
[06:17] <llindy> and other people have the same problem in fedora
[06:17] <Amaranth> ProN00b: Please don't use AOLSpeak here.
[06:17] <Paladine> fonts should be compiled into the flash movie
[06:17] <Paladine> thats the point
[06:17] <quiet> max_: banshee or beep-media-player
[06:17] <ProN00b> Amaranth, don't tell me what to not do
[06:17] <Amaranth> max_: If it works in totem it should work in rhythmbox
[06:17] <quiet> max_: vlc
[06:17] <llindy> i know that fonts are embedded into the movie itself
[06:17] <Amaranth> ProN00b: Why not?
[06:18] <max_> quiet I have banshee it won't work, same with rythm box
[06:18] <ladydoor> !netiquette
[06:18] <Paladine> ProN00b, telling an op what not to do is a bad idea
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netiquette - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <llindy> but i googled this problem and other people in fedora are having the same problems
[06:18] <vdepizzol> ladydoor: I'm trying to use tulip driver with my Intel network card, but the driver can't work with "options=4" (to force use as 10baseT)
[06:18] <llindy> and can't figure it out
[06:18] <ProN00b> i dunno, because maybe not everyone likes your way of talking enforced onto them
[06:18] <BonBonTheJon> has any one set up ubuntu on a RAID
[06:18] <ladydoor> vdepizzol: i'm not familiar with that :-(
[06:18] <ProN00b> Paladine, o rly ? ()
[06:18] <max_> Amaranth it won't work in rythmbox either
[06:18] <redcard> ProN00b: Don't use aolspeak here, PLEASE
[06:18] <Paladine> ProN00b, you are just trying to get banned aren't you?
[06:18] <skar> BonBonTheJon: yup root fs is on sw RAID1
[06:18] <ProN00b> o rly isn't aol speak *_*
[06:19] <BonBonTheJon> skar: how do you boot from RAID
[06:19] <hantoo> how do i remove a pakcage from my system?
[06:19] <hantoo> i did apt-get remove mozilla
[06:19] <llindy> ust found the answer, install
[06:19] <llindy> #gsfonts-x11
[06:19] <llindy> and then
[06:19] <llindy> #dpkg-reconfigure gsfonts-x11
[06:19] <ladydoor> ProN00b: it's easier to be taken seriously if you at least take the seconds required to type a whole word.
[06:19] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: Well, lets try an assemble: mdam -A --scan /dev/md0
[06:19] <vdepizzol> ladydoor: ok
[06:19] <eyequeue> hantoo, dpkg --purge foo
[06:19] <hantoo> but mozilla still installed
[06:19] <eyequeue> hantoo, sudo dpkg --purge foo, rather
[06:19] <Amaranth> hantoo: mozilla-browser
[06:19] <ladydoor> vdepizzol: sorry
[06:19] <fuoco> anyone runs edgy ?
[06:19] <hantoo> Amaranth: but i did install mozilla
[06:19] <hantoo> :o
[06:19] <quiet> no no one... it's vaporware
[06:19] <hantoo> this is losing me, heh.
[06:19] <Amaranth> fuoco: I do, please join #ubuntu+1
[06:19] <eyequeue> fuoco, #ubuntu+1 does
[06:20] <skar> grub has this:kernel   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-11-686 root=/dev/md0 ro quiet splash
[06:20] <Amaranth> hantoo: mozilla is a metapackage that pulls in mozilla-browser, mozilla-composer, etc
[06:20] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: does that fix it in /proc/mdstat?
[06:20] <ProN00b> ladydoor, thats the question, do i want to be taken seriously from people who don't ? and also, why should i if it isn't me who needs help ?
[06:20] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, ok said: device /dev/md0 already active - cannot assemble it
[06:20] <Amaranth> alright, not composer
[06:20] <hantoo> Amaranth: so how do i remove the whole mozilla metapackage?
[06:20] <ProN00b> but thats offtopic here, sry
[06:20] <Pensacola> I read that it may be caused by the 686 kernel is that possible?
[06:20] <Paladine> !offtopic > ProN00b
[06:20] <kowa> does anyone know how to change the download folder by using the shell
[06:21] <Amaranth> hantoo: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm
[06:21] <Amaranth> kowa: ?
[06:21] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: This your root partition?  We'll need to stop the raid unit with mdadm --stop /dev/md0
[06:21] <quiet> kowa: with wget?
[06:22] <quiet> just cd to the directory you want to download it to.
[06:22] <hantoo> cheers.
[06:22] <kowa> im new with ubuntu sorry
[06:22] <sbalneav> If it is, you'll need to do this with a recovery disk.
[06:22] <hantoo> clear
[06:22] <hantoo> er
[06:22] <eyequeue> Paladine, brief /msg okay?
[06:22] <mike__> soem help configuring a gdesklet: ADVANCED help needed
[06:23] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, i can't doi it. device or resource busy.
[06:23] <Paladine> eye, sure
[06:23] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: What have you got mounted on /dev/md0 ?  Your root partition?
[06:23] <kowa> quiet: if i click on download on firefox i want it to a specific ordner...how to set that?...excuse my english
[06:23] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, yes.
[06:23] <quiet> kowa: in the firefox preferences.
[06:24] <quiet> edit -> preferences -> Downloads tab
[06:24] <Amaranth> kowa: Edit->Preferences in firefox
[06:24] <kowa> thx
[06:24] <mike__> need some advanced help with gdesklets
[06:25] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, i think that i must only resyncing the raid 1 array, but i don't know.
[06:25] <Paddy_EIRE> how would i launch this installer "tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run" ??
[06:25] <quiet> probably chmod a+x and ./trem...
[06:26] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: ok, try this: raidhotadd /dev/md0 /dev/sdb
[06:26] <mike__> any help please
[06:27] <Amaranth> mike__: You have to tell us what the problem is first. :)
 nothing happened when i did "chmod a+x ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[06:27] <LightTitan> #ubuntu
[06:27] <LightTitan> oh...guess I am already here
[06:27] <mike__> help with gdesklets please
[06:27] <quiet> Paddy_EIRE: sure it did... it made it executable.
[06:27] <quiet> now just do './trem.."
[06:28] <Amaranth> mike__: #gdesklets on GIMPNet might be more help
[06:28] <llindy> i fixed it ladydoor thank you for your help
oh so now i just click it
[06:28] <sbalneav> mike__: WHAT problem are you having with gdesklets?
[06:28] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, raidtoadd. command not found
[06:28] <mike__> Amaranth: thnaks
[06:28] <LightTitan> ok, got my first problem. I installed the glx drivers (I have NVidia card) and restarted, now I can only display in 640X480.... any clue how to fix that?
[06:28] <mike__> sbalneav:  not a problem a configuration issue with the gnome bar 2.02 gdesklet
what is a symbolis link
[06:28] <sbalneav> Ubuntu_g1: raidhotadd
[06:28] <Amaranth> !fixres
[06:28] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:28] <sbalneav> not raidtoadd
[06:29] <Paddy_EIRE> *symbolic
[06:29] <Amaranth> LightTitan: what ubotu just said should help
[06:29] <mike__> Amaranth:  lol no on eis in #gdesklets
[06:29] <Amaranth> mike__: On GIMPNet, not Freenode
[06:29] <sbalneav> mike__: you STILL haven't told us what the problem is.
[06:29] <LightTitan> Amaranth... ok I will try it thx. BRB.
[06:29] <Ubuntu_g1> sbalneav, yes, raidhotadd: command not found
[06:30] <mike__> sbalneav:  i cant configure the gnome bar app tp launch different applications
[06:30] <Paladine> LightTitan, udo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200 (change 1600x1200 for the resolution you want)
[06:30] <Paladine> LightTitan, sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200 (change 1600x1200 for the resolution you want) <- even
[06:30] <mike__> sbalneav:  the applications launcher text u can edit looks liek this: launch('firefox')
[06:31] <mike__> sbalneav:  but liek i want to launch firefox 2 beta 2 witch is in the directory firefox/firefox
[06:31] <Amaranth> mike__: launch('/path/to/firefox/firefox')
[06:31] <Paladine> LightTitan, sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200 (change 1600x1200 for the resolution you want)
[06:31] <LightTitan> Paladine It worked!! Thanks so much :)
[06:31] <Paladine> that command will add different screen modes to your xorg.conf
[06:32] <Paladine> no problem
[06:32] <mike__> Amaranth:  gave me an error
[06:32] <|CADE|> Has anyone had luck getting the moodbar to work in Amarok 1.4.3?
[06:32] <mike__> Amaranth:
[06:32] <mike__> unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'NoneType' and 'str'
[06:32] <mike__> /usr/share/gdesklets/Displays/gnomebar/GnomeBar.display
[06:32] <mike__> >   1 launch(launch('/path/to/firefox/firefox'))
[06:33] <Paladine> mike__, remove launch( from the beginning of that line
[06:33] <Paladine> and the trailing )
[06:33] <Amaranth> mike__: why are you doing launch() twice?
[06:33] <Amaranth> mike__: launch('/path/to/firefox/firefox')
[06:34] <ichmbch> hello, it is written on apple.com, that if i want to install winXP on intel based Mac, i need to update firmware and use MacOSX of at least 10.4.6. But if i want to install ubuntu, do i need all these steps?
[06:34] <Paladine> also change /path/to to the real path
[06:34] <Amaranth> !intel mac
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <Amaranth> bah
[06:35] <scifi> hi guys, basically im trying to remove all duplicate lines from a text file. "sort -u filename.csv > newfilename.csv", orders them but doesnt remove them. any ideas ?
[06:35] <eyequeue> scifi, man uniq :)
[06:35] <wladston> guys, ubuntu is mounting one of my windows NTFS partitons as a Swap partition. Anyone can point me a help ?
[06:35] <|CADE|> Has anyone had luck getting the moodbar to work in Amarok 1.4.3?
[06:36] <eyequeue> scifi, sort -u foo | uniq  (and yes you want to pre-sort it)
[06:36] <zebedee> hooray machine number two now running ubuntu (bye bye rtl8180l w/lan card. hello dusty old 3com pci lan card) :-)
 how do i get "tremulous" to play a game? Im just sitting with an empty server list?
[06:36] <wladston> the "disk manager" does not give me the option to change this
[06:36] <ACU> what is the best ftp server ( and easiest to administer preferable  with some web or gui)
[06:36] <scifi> eyequeue: thnx will try it, wonder why -u doesnt remove dupes, in man says it will
[06:36] <Amaranth> ichmbch: http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[06:37] <Amaranth> ichmbch: That should help you install Ubuntu 6.06 on a MacBook Pro (should work for Mac Mini and iMac too)
[06:37] <wladston> anyone knows if there is a guide or something on this I can't find ?
[06:37] <ichmbch> Amarath: thanks
[06:37] <eyequeue> scifi, odd
[06:37] <Amaranth> wladston: Change what?
[06:37] <Amaranth> ah
[06:38] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[06:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> wladston,  swap partitions are definded in the fstab file.  if its that confused.. check there.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[06:38] <ds[de] > wlandston: http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> lol.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:38] <Amaranth> Dr_Willis: hehe
[06:38] <wladston> Amaranth: one of my windows partitions is getting mounted as swap
[06:38] <wladston> thanks dudes! I'll take a read!
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> wladston,  this on an installed system or a live cd?
[06:38] <wladston> installed system
[06:39] <wladston> I finally made my definite swith to linux
[06:39] <Paladine> I think the first thing you need to do is unmount the partition to protect the integrity of your data
[06:39] <wezzer> I am glad that you made that decision
[06:39] <andrewski> wladston: how you feelin'?
[06:39] <wladston> wezzer: me too !
[06:39] <Paladine> it shouldn't be able to use it as swap if it is ntfs but I would be wary
[06:39] <wladston> andrewski: after some time getting some M$ fonts, setting themes, I'm feeling great!
[06:40] <andrewski> wladston: yeah, MS fonts were one of the last things to go for me, even after i got rid of windows.
[06:40] <wladston> andrewski: something that really scare people away from linux is the terrible fonts the system start with ...
[06:40] <jbmigel> hey what is adobe's problem where is my flash 9 and/or 64 bit flash??
[06:40] <Amaranth> Hehe, even Ubuntu takes some setup to get going right. :)
[06:40] <andrewski> wladston: bitstream vera sans?  terrible?
[06:40] <Amaranth> Windows takes me 3 hours to get up-to-date and setup how I like, Ubuntu takes an 1 hour. :D
[06:41] <wladston> andrewski: bitstream vera sans is pretty!
[06:41] <NEMSIZ> does ubuntu have standard a firewall installed?
[06:41] <andrewski> Amaranth: yes, but very little, and you can do just about anything. :)
[06:41] <andrewski> wladston: so which are you talking about?  ubuntu starts with bitstream, no?
[06:41] <Paladine> NEMSIZ, ubuntu comes with iptables installed
[06:41] <eyequeue> NEMSIZ, iptables
[06:41] <wladston> andrewski: the problem is that it comes with a strange dithering more ...
[06:41] <NEMSIZ> thanks
[06:41] <Amaranth> !firewall
[06:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[06:41] <Paladine> use Firestarter in gnome/kde to manage the firewall through a GUI
[06:41] <andrewski> wladston: ah... this may be true.
[06:41] <wladston> andrewski: makes it look a litte dirty
[06:41] <scifi> hehe weird, its just 2 lines called "Bear" which it doesnt remove dupe ^^
[06:41] <NEMSIZ> how can i change the settings of iptables?
[06:41] <Amaranth> NEMSIZ: Command line iptables setup will eat your soul.
[06:42] <TLE> I'm at a computer with a flat screen, if I encrease the resolution to 1024x768@75 (Which I know, from Windoze, that it can handle) then the screen does show the picture, but it also gives me an "out of range" warning. Any idea of what might course this. I have tried reconfiguring xorg.conf with dpkp-reconfigure xorg-server and wia the modelin generator online, but without succes.
[06:42] <Amaranth> NEMSIZ: Use firestarter (you have to install it)
[06:42] <StarQuake> is it me or is the ubuntuforums.org site not very reliable?
[06:42] <andrewski> wladston: i can't remember the defaults, but i think i know what you mean.
[06:42] <Amaranth> TLE: If you pull up the monitor menu (the menu to adjust brightness and junk on the monitor) that will probably go away
[06:42] <andrewski> StarQuake: server status-wise or answer-wise?
[06:43] <StarQuake> serverstatus wise :D
[06:43] <Paladine> ubuntuforums.org is going through server upgrades at the moment and is also low on funds, if you want to help, donate to the project
[06:43] <wladston> andrewski: there are also some things that works better in windows ... for example, free space ... when I tried to install eclipse, after all my disk space was drawn, the system hooked up completely
[06:43] <StarQuake> a okay
[06:43] <Amaranth> TLE: One of my monitors is a 17" and throws up a warning when you go over 1024x768 (!), doing that makes it go away
[06:43] <andrewski> StarQuake: agreed, in the last few days.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> wladston,  you should of seen the way fonts on linux were - say.. 5 years ago. :P
[06:43] <hc> hi
[06:43] <TLE> Amaranth: I'll try
[06:43] <wladston> Dr_Willis: i remember ... it was TERRIBLE :)
[06:43] <andrewski> wladston: hmm, i've not had that experience when filling up my drive. :-P
[06:43] <hc> i need some help with WPA
[06:43] <hc> anyone?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> wladston,  still it was better then how windows handled them In many ways.
[06:44] <Amaranth> hc: Use network-manager
[06:44] <andrewski> !wpa > hc
[06:44] <nownott> can someone help when i try to boot my linux install i get error 15: file not found
[06:44] <StarQuake> Paladine, do i donate to the ubuntu project in general or is there a ubuntuforum project
[06:44] <Paladine> if you go to ubuntuforums.org there is a link to donate
[06:44] <wladston> andrewski: i thinkt he problem heappened cause it was in the middle of the instalations ... it should halt it threse is no free space
[06:44] <hc> Amaranth: i can't find it in Synaptic, either with apt-get
[06:44] <Amaranth> hc: Install the network-manager-gnome package and run `nm-applet`. After that it'll run on login.
[06:44] <StarQuake> Paladine, lol, i can't get there :D
[06:44] <Amaranth> !info network-manager-gnome
[06:44] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[06:45] <StarQuake> Paladine, I might donate a few quid then
[06:45] <Paladine> StarQuake, #ubuntuforums holds all the answers ;)
[06:45] <Amaranth> hc: Are you using ubuntu 6.06 (dapper)?
[06:45] <andrewski> i seem to have lost my Applications menu.  it's entirely empty.  when i run alacarte, it doesn't open.  does anyone have any ideas?
[06:45] <hc> Amaranth: xubuntu
[06:45] <wladston> Dr_Willis: yeah!! I'm now realizing that linux has lots of pros ... after being a windows "poweruser"
[06:45] <hc> 6.06
[06:45] <StarQuake> Paladine, ah that exists too then, let's have a look
[06:45] <Amaranth> hc: alright, it should be in main then
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> wladston,  its a windows 'powerluser' :)
[06:45] <Amaranth> hc: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[06:46] <wladston> Dr_Willis: LOL
[06:46] <LightTitan> I do not know how to use the bot. Someone have it tell me how to reset my resolution
[06:46] <hc> Amaranth: just did it. and then?
[06:46] <Amaranth> !fixres > LightTitan
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[06:46] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:46] <Amaranth> LightTitan: You've got a PM :)
[06:46] <Amaranth> hc: Did it install?
[06:46] <hc> Amaranth: yes
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> "You got Spam!"
[06:46] <LightTitan> Amarath Thank you
[06:46] <Amaranth> hc: Run `nm-applet`
[06:47] <ACU> Anyone knows how to configure and access Gshare
[06:47] <wladston> Dr_Willis: it's impressing how the stuff works without too much effort, if you know how to do it ... I just got windows sharing working here with my bro's computer .. now i gotta find out how to free my hd for him to acess without password need
[06:47] <ACU> What is the best Ftp server
[06:47] <Amaranth> hc: a little icon should show up somewhere on your desktop, not sure where xubuntu's notification tray is shown
[06:47] <andrewski> LightTitan: you can do "ubotu: keyword" or "!keyword", or as Amaranth pointed out, you can send someone a message (a good idea, as this is a high-traffic channel!) via "!keyword > nick"
[06:47] <Amaranth> hc: it'll probably look like a computer
[06:47] <hc> /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No file og folder (something like that, i have it on norwegian)
[06:47] <hc> when i tried to run nm-applet
[06:47] <Amaranth> hc: *boggle*
[06:48] <wladston> i'm going there for a read .. thanks very much, guys ...
[06:48] <Amaranth> hc: sudo apt-get install esound
[06:48] <Episteme73> how do i stop cat /dev/video0 ?  I tried to bring it up, but it says this resource is busy. I assume that I can kill pid if I knew what pid it was.
[06:48] <andrewski> O_o esd for nm-applet?  weird....
[06:48] <LightTitan> ok... I got it back up to 1600X1400 but if I reboot it reverts to only being able to use they 640X480
[06:49] <Amaranth> Episteme73: You ran 'cat /dev/video0'?
[06:49] <hc> Amaranth: i got a little icon. double-clicked it. but i can only choose between WEP
[06:49] <Episteme73> amaranth yes, in a script I'm running, but now I can't shut it down.
[06:49] <Amaranth> Episteme73: killall cat
[06:49] <Killboy> holA
[06:49] <Killboy> hola
[06:49] <Episteme73> amaranth thanks!
[06:49] <Amaranth> hc: odd
[06:50] <hc> yeah.
[06:50] <Killboy> hola
[06:50] <Killboy> chao
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[06:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:50] <Amaranth> hc: do you have wpasupplicant
[06:50] <hc> Amaranth: yes
[06:50] <Amaranth> hc: hrm
[06:50] <Amaranth> hc: perhaps your hardware doesn't support WPA?
[06:51] <hc> i does. i have an identical one
[06:51] <Amaranth> with network-manager-gnome on my machine i can go all the way up to WPA2 Enterprise
[06:51] <hc> works perfect on the windows laptop
[06:51] <feliciano> Hi there
[06:51] <Amaranth> hc: it might be misidentifying the wireless network
[06:51] <feliciano> I need some app that let me change the tempo at some mp3, but not like audacity
[06:51] <Amaranth> hc: on the drop down menu choose connect to other wireless network
[06:51] <feliciano> something like atomixmp3 at windows
[06:52] <CromagDK> wine :D
[06:52] <CromagDK> and then try with amotix mp3 or virutalDJ
[06:52] <CromagDK> virtual*
[06:52] <feliciano> :(
[06:52] <feliciano> CromagDK, nothing at linux work?
[06:52] <CromagDK> actually donno hehe
[06:52] <LightTitan> I have Ubuntu in 1600X1400 now but when I try to reboot it does not give me that option... we I reboot via terminal and get back into Ubuntu it only lets me set the res at 640X480... why?
[06:53] <CromagDK> http://www.beatforce.org/
[06:53] <CromagDK> maybe
[06:53] <TLE> Amaranth: No luck I'm afraid, with the onscreen menu
[06:53] <andrewski> !fixres > LightTitan
[06:54] <LightTitan> I do not understand.
[06:54] <andrewski> LightTitan: check your PMs
[06:54] <goethe> what is the best way to convert wma to mp3s?
[06:54] <andrewski> or just look here:
[06:54] <andrewski> !fixres
[06:54] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:54] <andrewski> goethe: install nautilus-script-audio, or whatever the name is.
[06:55] <Amaranth> TLE: Odd
[06:55] <CromagDK> feliciano: found something
[06:55] <CromagDK> sec
[06:55] <CromagDK> feliciano: http://mixxx.sourceforge.net/ there
[06:55] <CromagDK> works
[06:55] <Amaranth> TLE: Try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:55] <Amaranth> TLE: It should help you setup the proper vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor
[06:56] <goethe> andrewski:  awesome thank you
[06:56] <A-L-P-H-A> how do I update from 6.06 to edgy?  What are the repositories?
[06:56] <andrewski> goethe: cheerss
[06:56] <feliciano> CromagDK I try mixxx, but this dont open my files and crash my xubuntu
[06:56] <CalcMaster86>  what's the code for ext3 for the mount command?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> !update
[06:56] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[06:56] <TLE> ok thanks Amaranth
[06:56] <CromagDK> feliciano: oh..
[06:56] <CromagDK> feliciano: http://sound.condorow.net/ddj.html
[06:56] <NightWolf_> Hello. :)
[06:56] <CromagDK> look there might find something
[06:56] <dhq_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23011
[06:57] <Amaranth> CalcMaster86: mount -t ext3 /dev/foo /media/foo
[06:57] <CalcMaster86> thanks
[06:57] <NightWolf_> May I ask for some help ?
[06:57] <andrewski> NightWolf_: sure, just ask.
[06:57] <A-L-P-H-A> Dr_Willis: that didn't help... there's no listing for 6.10
[06:57] <LightTitan> I did that earler and now i can set my screen to 1600X1400 but when I reboot it goes back to 640X480... I am looking at the site you linked me but am unsure of which route I should take, because I am not really sure of what the problem is.
[06:58] <eyequeue> A-L-P-H-A, did you see the "update-manager -d" line?
[06:58] <feliciano> <CromagDK
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> A-L-P-H-A,  follow the same logic.. you basicially just chagne the sources. or use that last command.
[06:58] <CromagDK> feliciano: yes
[06:58] <feliciano> CromagDK, thanks... I try
[06:58] <NightWolf_> Well, I was trying to transfer some files, and nautilus crashed on me. Ever since, either I can't access the original directory (but can see its properties), or can access it (well, just a few of the files supposed to be there, that is).
[06:58] <wims> when is edgy scheduled to be released?
[06:59] <CromagDK> feliciano: np :)
[06:59] <eyequeue> A-L-P-H-A, you've already been warned edgy is unstable i hope, right?
[06:59] <jaysef> hello
[06:59] <NightWolf_> So I was wondering what's going on. ^^"
[06:59] <A-L-P-H-A> eyequeue: yup.
[06:59] <eyequeue> wims, end of october
[06:59] <A-L-P-H-A> Dr_Willis: checking again. :)
[06:59] <wims> eyequeue,  thanks
[06:59] <eyequeue> A-L-P-H-A, :)
[07:00] <NightWolf_> (I wouldn't usually mind losing a few files, but a gig is another story :/)
[07:00] <wims> anybody know which kernel will be shipped with edgy ?
[07:01] <A-L-P-H-A> currently, 6.06 is locking up on me a few times a day... I think it's a nvidia driver issue... so I want the lastest driver to check.
[07:01] <beerfan> If I remove and upgrade a driver (madwifi in this case) will I mess up apt somehow?
[07:01] <Dutchy> is there a way i can make alt-tab work for all programs? i installed Neverwinter Nights and i cant alt-tab from that
[07:01] <A-L-P-H-A> I don't think x-chat, azureus, or firefox has the ability to lockup xorg, so I'm thinking video driver.
[07:01] <nownott> im in the live cd how to i mount my linux partition
[07:02] <eyequeue> nownott, what device?
[07:02] <nownott> harddrive
[07:02] <eyequeue> nownott, what /dev
[07:02] <nownott> sda3
[07:03] <eyequeue> nownott, mount /dev/sda3 /your/mount/point
[07:03] <eyequeue> nownott, with a sudo in front, sorry
[07:03] <epimeteo> hi everyone! are the ubuntuforums down?
[07:04] <Episteme73> epimeteo yes seems that way
[07:04] <epimeteo> :(
[07:04] <epimeteo> thx Episteme73 :)
[07:04] <Episteme73> epimeteo yeah, me too.
[07:05] <beerfan> Are drivers installed with a package? I just searched for madwifi and I don't see a package for it so if I manually upgrade the madwifi drivers I shouldn't mess up the apt system right?
[07:05] <eyequeue> ubuntu forums seem to work for me
[07:06] <dudanogueira> hello all!
[07:08] <james296> how do I know what repositories need to be checked so I dont have to worry about gettin any error popups coming up?
[07:08] <eyequeue> !repos > james296
[07:09] <ajmendoza> hla
[07:09] <LightTitan> I have followed the website and had it redetect my video drivers and all, I think it is going to work and want to reboot to see if it did, but it still will not give me the reboot option... I know I can reboot via terminal but just want to know if there is something I may not have done and need to do before I reboot.
[07:09] <dudanogueira> eyequeue: how can i get a list of !thiscomands?
[07:09] <jaysef> how i do get the latest source so i can build madwifi ?
[07:09] <eyequeue> dudanogueira, watch the bot, there will be a url
[07:09] <eyequeue> !svojbsvosafjdbv
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svojbsvosafjdbv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <jaysef> apt-get install kernel-source-2.x.y
[07:09] <eyequeue> dudanogueira,  ^^
[07:10] <DeAthsHeAd> hey, my first time on an IRC network :)
[07:10] <dudanogueira> eyequeue: cool :)
[07:10] <dudanogueira> DeAthsHeAd: be welcome :)
[07:10] <DeAthsHeAd> thnx :)
[07:10] <eyequeue> dudanogueira,  for talking to the bot, /msg ubotu help, too :)
[07:10] <LightTitan> Amaranth, I have redetected my video drivers. When i go to reboot it does not give me that option. Why?
[07:11] <Amaranth> LightTitan: I dunno. :/
[07:11] <Amaranth> nvidia drivers suck :P
[07:11] <ThomasO> I just decided to use Ubuntu as my Linux distro...is there a difference between Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu other than the Window Manager used?
[07:11] <hc> still no progress with WPA :/
[07:11] <eyequeue> ThomasO, no, though those will effect memory used etc
[07:11] <dudanogueira> LightTitan: when configuring video drivers, you can only restart the X server with ctrl+alt+backspace :)
[07:11] <LightTitan> Amaranth, ok I am going to reboot via terminal... hopefully my resolution is correct on return.
[07:11] <Gargoyle> eyequeue: Can I PM you? (It's not a techy question)
[07:12] <eyequeue> Gargoyle, go for it :)
[07:12] <LightTitan> dudanogueira, oh ok. Thank you.
[07:12] <DeAthsHeAd> which is th easiest Linux?
[07:12] <ThomasO> Which environment is closest to Sun Solaris (what is used at my university)?
[07:12] <hc> ubuntu
[07:12] <dudanogueira> DeAthsHeAd: guess :)
[07:12] <vishah> easy Linux
[07:12] <DeAthsHeAd> ok
[07:12] <DeAthsHeAd> cn I install games on it?
[07:12] <DeAthsHeAd> lik say gta sa?
[07:12] <james296> what do I do to have Ubuntu use the default repositories I had before I had Automatix?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> DeAthsHeAd,  Linux is not windows.. some games can be made to run with WINE. and Cedega..  but dont depend on it.
[07:13] <beerfan> DeAthsHeAd, google for Cedega for a list of games which you can run
[07:13] <dudanogueira> DeAthsHeAd: sure... there are a lot of games running natively, and also other plataforms running with cedega, wine, virtual machines  ando others :)
[07:13] <james296> well
[07:13] <james296> ?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> !vmware
[07:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[07:14] <DeAthsHeAd> i m a gamer. does tht mean linux is nt fr me?
[07:14] <beerfan> probably
[07:14] <dudanogueira> DeAthsHeAd: here in brazil we have the folks of Ubuntu Games (www.ubuntugames.org) with a script (like automatix) that installs some sort of games.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> DeAthsHeAd,  the idea of being a 'gamer' is like being a "Drinker" or "drug addict" :P
[07:14] <dudanogueira> DeAthsHeAd: unfortunately, only in portuguese :(
[07:14] <eyequeue> !games
[07:15] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:15] <DeAthsHeAd> i absolutely love the xgl interface :)
[07:15] <DeAthsHeAd> too bad abt tht :(
[07:15] <eyequeue> !xgl
[07:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:15] <VisezTrance> where can i find the debug versions for the programs in the multiverse repository ?
[07:15] <NightWolf_> I was trying to transfer some files, and nautilus crashed on me. Now either I can't access the original directory (but can see its properties - when trying to open the directory nautilus freezes), or can access it (but can only see a small part of the files supposed to be there, that is). Is there any way to recover, or are they definitely lost ?
[07:15] <beerfan> !drivers
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <beerfan> !madwifi
[07:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:15] <ThomasO> Uhm, which environment for Ubuntu is closest to the environment used by Solaris 10?
[07:15] <\kUhLfiRe`> !your shorts
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your shorts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <dudanogueira> DeAthsHeAd: ill love it when i buy my all brand new notebook. actually xgl is too much for my computer =)
[07:15] <\kUhLfiRe`> lol ;)
[07:15] <DeAthsHeAd> lol :)
[07:16] <DarkFog> hello
[07:16] <m0dY> could the "universe" repo be having pkgs which is in the "main" repo ? if so.. which one will be installed?
[07:16] <eyequeue> m0dY, no, they are separate lists
[07:16] <james296> so how can I reset the repositories to how they were before Automatix?
[07:16] <eyequeue> james296, just enable main and restricted, i guess
[07:16] <m0dY> aha i see
[07:16] <eyequeue> james296, and only ubuntu
[07:17] <DeAthsHeAd> well my pal hs xgl runnin on his ddr2 256 mb n its supposedly nt very resorce intensive
[07:17] <Adam> any one know how I can setup remote ssh for my ubuntu box?
[07:17] <james296> well I get errors...
[07:17] <jaysef> what is the latest kernel source ?
[07:17] <ThomasO> NM. I guess it runs on a modified GNOME.
[07:17] <eyequeue> Adam, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:17] <DeAthsHeAd> probably
[07:17] <bretzel> Wow I am installing my WindowsXP Pro within VMWare -- lokks really cool!
[07:17] <ThomasO> Oh, yeah. What kind of firewall will I need for Ubuntu?
[07:17] <DubiousAlliance> Have installed 6.06 LTS - Running wireless, After log on, I get a message about nm-applet needing the default keyring password - I've done some checking on internet and advise rancges from "this is the correct behavior" to "Remove the wireless network controller" - any help?
[07:17] <Adam> cheers
[07:17] <eyequeue> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[07:18] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 43476 kB, installed size 43612 kB
[07:18] <DeAthsHeAd> wats vm ware?
[07:18] <DarkFog> i'm sorry, but what's thedifference betweenthe ubuntu, kubuntu, edubutntu and the Xubuntu
[07:18] <RedGhost> emulator, the paid version, workstation
[07:18] <RedGhost> is amazing
[07:18] <dhq_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23011
[07:18] <eyequeue> DarkFog, the user interface
[07:18] <DeAthsHeAd> ok
[07:18] <eyequeue> DarkFog, gnome, kde, gnome, and xfce
[07:18] <ThomasO> OK folks. I'm out. In a little while, I'll be downloading Ubuntu Linux and partitioning my HDD and stuff. It'll be awesome.
[07:18] <RedGhost> gnome > o:
[07:19] <bretzel> DeAthsHeAd: VMWare = commercial version or free version of virtual machine
[07:19] <jesus> jol
[07:19] <eyequeue> DarkFog, edubuntu being slanted toward education
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> Hmm the vmware wiki seems a little out of date
[07:19] <DarkFog> eyequeue, i dont know the technical stuff, what's the difference
[07:19] <ThomasO> One last question before I leave...
[07:20] <ThomasO> How should I parition my HDD? It's 300GB. How much space should I allocate to Windows XP, Ubuntu, and Documents?
[07:20] <foxpaul> hi all - does anyone know why the sound quality on my laptop is really bad when i resume from suspend?
[07:20] <eyequeue> DarkFog, gnome is what is standard ubuntu, kde is less lightweight, xfce is most lightweight
[07:20] <foxpaul> the sound is jumping and scratchy.
[07:20] <DubiousAlliance> Have installed 6.06 LTS - Running wireless, After log on, I get a message about nm-applet needing the default keyring password - I've done some checking on internet and advise ranges from "this is the correct behavior" to "Remove the wireless network controller" - any help?
[07:21] <xipietotec> I broke my screensaver. I *think* It has to do with me installing XGL, and then uninstalling it, but now none of the screensavers work, and they all crash my laptop. Even going into Screen-saver management crashes the laptop
[07:21] <xipietotec> I think I broke open-gl
[07:21] <kylebaked> sudo fix open-gl
[07:21] <marik> hey i have a PCI device that, when i boot, the BIOS assigns it the IRQ: NA. The board is an Asus A7N8X Deluxe.  I've tried enabling/disabling the APIC. I tried to set up some manual IRQs but the BIOS won't let me.  The card doesn't work in any operating system that loads afterwards.. the driver for it fails in method: request_irq.  I would think that getting the BIOS to give it an IRQ would be the first step in getting the card working
[07:21] <marik> (it works apparently on every system except this one).  so, has anyone run into this sort of problem before or might know anything that would help me?
[07:22] <snedar> hi! does anyone know about a tool to make screenshots including the mouse cursor and tooltips?
[07:22] <xipietotec> fix is not a recognized command
[07:22] <kozmic> whats the best video edition software for linux?
[07:23] <ubuntu> Amaranth, I used that site you gave me to redetect my drivers. But now when I try to startx it does the whole unable to startx something about the drivers being incorrect... how do I fix that. Right now I am on the LiveCD so I can talk to you.
[07:23] <NightWolf_> Well, I'll keep searching, thanks anyway :)
[07:23] <jatt> snedar: AFAIK doing screenshots including the mouse cursor is not possible within X.
[07:23] <xipietotec> Anyone have any advice for fixing my open-gl?
[07:23] <cwillu> anybody aware of a way to make pam always ask for a username?
[07:24] <snedar> jatt: okay, thanks, then I'll just include a mouse cursor with the gimp
[07:24] <cwillu> snedar: a vnc-based capture would work
[07:24] <jatt> snedar: I read about a trick using VNC, and then taking a screenshot of the VNC screen, that would include the cursor.
[07:25] <cwillu> snedar: I believe there's a package in synaptic that'll record vnc sessions;  would probably work for you
[07:25] <xipietotec> It's a pretty damn big problem, because I can't even close my laptop's cover leave it running.
[07:25] <fuoco> anyone has any experience with wireless APs ?
[07:26] <fuoco> and can recommend me a good brand/model ?
[07:26] <xipietotec> And it causes a complete lockup, meaning I have to use a paper-clip on the little "reset" button.
[07:26] <ubuntu> Amaranth, This is LightTitan.... I think I messed up my video drivers... I can not get back into graphical side of Ubuntu now. How do I fix it?
[07:26] <snedar> cwillu, jatt: sounds a bit too difficult, then I might have more luck recording a video from the screen and taking a screenshot from that
[07:26] <eyequeue> ubuntu, /nick lighttitan
[07:26] <snedar> (vnc is with remote desktops, isn't it?)
[07:27] <LightTitan> lol thanks eyequeue
[07:27] <eyequeue> LightTitan, no prob, less confusing :)
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> vnc is a handy tool
[07:27] <tritan> hello
[07:27] <LightTitan> eyequeue, ya... I am on my liveCD right now becuase I can not get startx to work on my ubuntu installation :(
[07:28] <tritan> im having a problem with an IDE-drive in my PC - I cant write on it
[07:28] <jatt> snedar: yes you can access remote desktop with it, but is not as fast as the RDP protocol used by Windows Remote desktop. VNC is too slow.
[07:28] <gemeindeba> hello i had a problem with a crashing firefox (all the time) now i started from a terminal. can anybody help with the error message, even if it is only something about a failed plugin? if a paste here it would be 2 to 3 lines (the errormessage) may i?
[07:28] <eyequeue> LightTitan, gotcha
[07:28] <tritan> i recently installed Ubuntu without adding a function to it or whatsoever, but I would like to be able to use it :)
[07:28] <ladydoor> !paste
[07:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:28] <sethk> gemeindeba, two lines is ok, otherwise use the pastebin
[07:28] <gemeindeba> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so [/usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so: undefined symbol: XtCalloc] 
[07:28] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: what sethk said
[07:29] <computeradminist> Amaranth: Hey, you helped me with the flatscreen resolution prob. earlier. Turn out the reason why none of the HOWTO's I've found works, was because I added the modelines to the wrong section of xorg.conf. *Looks down in credible embarresment*. So that's what you get for not actually reading... Thanks again
[07:29] <TLE> Amaranth: Hey, you helped me with the flatscreen resolution prob. earlier. Turn out the reason why none of the HOWTO's I've found works, was because I added the modelines to the wrong section of xorg.conf. *Looks down in credible embarresment*. So that's what you get for not actually reading... Thanks again
[07:29] <tritan> anyone able to help? :(
[07:29] <TEN> Something weird under Xubuntu 6.06.1 LTS: in all Modes lines of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I have now already removed all resolutions except 1024x768. When the monitor is not connected during startup, X *still* comes up in 640x480 (i.e. even though there is no such resolution in xorg.conf anymore). Any ideas how to prevent this, i.e. force both the bootloader (like the Live CD can do!) and X into the right resolutions?
[07:29] <DeAthsHeAd> hi
[07:30] <jaysef> please can someone help me for a minute
[07:30] <gemeindeba> ok, i suppose the message i posted does not make much sense?
[07:30] <gemeindeba> ahem, pasted, not posted
[07:30] <xipietotec> If someone could please help me repair open-gl so my system would stop crashing I'd be very grateful
[07:30] <sethk> gemeindeba, makes perfect sense, why wouldn't it?
[07:30] <LightTitan> Can anyone help me out, I can not get back into my ubuntu installation becuase I can not get my graphics to work. How do I revert back to the generic video drivers?
[07:30] <cwillu> xipietotec: what's the problem?
[07:30] <kylebaked> whats a good gnome-terminal replacement that offeres transparency?
[07:30] <gemeindeba> sethk, i suppose it makes sense :)
[07:31] <sethk> gemeindeba, that looks like a firefox build from a different distribution.
[07:31] <cwillu> LightTitan: change the driver listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to vesa from whatever it currently is
[07:31] <LightTitan> cwillu, Thank you so much. I will try that.
[07:31] <xipietotec> cwillu: I installed XGL, found out my laptop couldn't run it, so I uninstalled it, and without thinking clicked "including all dependencies", so now whenever my screensaver comes up it crashes the whole system
[07:31] <sethk> gemeindeba, that's not where that library lives on ubuntu.  let me double check
[07:31] <gemeindeba> sethk, no that is how ubuntu came. but i installed a adobe plugin afterwards
[07:32] <sethk> gemeindeba, the plug in, then, is not right
[07:32] <gemeindeba> sethk, thank you for your effort and patience!
[07:32] <tritan> anyone can help over here?
[07:32] <xipietotec> and forces me to do a reboot with the little paper-clip in the back of the laptop button.
[07:32] <sethk> gemeindeba, it's out of sync with the library, hence the missing symbol
[07:32] <cwillu> xipietotec: have you removed the xgl repositories (if you enabled/added any)?
[07:32] <xipietotec> Yes.
[07:32] <jaysef> please can someone help me for a minute, im trying to install kernel source kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2
[07:32] <foo> I do xterm -bg black -fg white and I get: Color name "black" is not defined. Any ideas why I get this?
[07:32] <sethk> gemeindeba, can you find that plugin from the ubuntu repositories?
[07:32] <kozmic> xipietotec: you know you can hold down the power button in 5 seconds to halt a laptop. just a tip :)
[07:32] <gemeindeba> sethk, i will check
[07:32] <jaysef> so i can build the madwifi driver
[07:32] <cwillu> xipietotec: one sec
[07:33] <xipietotec> kozmic: Not when it completely crashes, and continuously tries to reboot Gnome.
[07:33] <sethk> gemeindeba, I have those libraries, but that is because I installed firefox from the mozilla.org site, and not from the repositories
[07:33] <TEN> foo The definitions should be in /etc/X11/rgb.txt AFAIK
[07:33] <cwillu> xipietotec: yes actually, but anyways :p
[07:33] <cwillu> xipietotec: open synaptic
[07:33] <sethk> gemeindeba, you have to do it consistently.  if you want to isntall a plug in from a non-repository site, you also have to install the browser that way.  and v.v.
[07:33] <gemeindeba> sethk, i followed a guide from www.ubuntuguide.org to install some addons
[07:33] <Eclypse> hey you guys, does anyone know of any programs that can open compressed .dmg's? I think the one I have is a .dmg.bz or .bz2, any ideas?
[07:33] <cwillu> xipietotec: go to status, select installed (local or obsolete)
[07:33] <|CADE|> what directory would "libgstdecodebin.so" be in?
[07:34] <gemeindeba> sethk, ok, that is an eye opener
[07:34] <sethk> gemeindeba, I don't take any responsibility for what the guide says
[07:34] <xipietotec> got it
[07:34] <jatt> foo: do you have the xrgb package installed?
[07:34] <sethk> gemeindeba, As an example, I installed firefox in /usr/local/firefox, from the mozilla web site
[07:34] <cwillu> xipietotec: k
[07:34] <gemeindeba> sethk, i wouldnt expect you too, you can only learn with falling and standing up
[07:34] <cwillu> one more sec :p
[07:34] <eyequeue> Eclypse, bunzip2 it
[07:34] <Onimae> Can someone tell me what the best way to get .ape files to play in Ubuntu, is?
[07:34] <sethk> gemeindeba, and I have the file:  /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
[07:34] <gemeindeba> sethk, but how to solve that problem is a total mystery to me
[07:34] <Eclypse> eyequeue, is that the name of the app or what? I don't think it's installed by default :P
[07:34] <Neo8750> what is ape?
[07:34] <cwillu> xipietotec: anything in there with xorg, gl, compiz, xgl, etc will cause you issues
[07:35] <expx> amarok can play ape?
[07:35] <Onimae> It's a file format, Neo8750.
[07:35] <ladydoor> Eclypse: it's installed by default
[07:35] <Onimae> Amarok?
[07:35] <Onimae> Can it play them by default?
[07:35] <sethk> gemeindeba, the quick way is to do what I did, install firefox from the mozilla.org site into a different directory.
[07:35] <ladydoor> Eclypse: it unzips bz2 files zipped by bzip2
[07:35] <sethk> gemeindeba, then install the plugins from within firefox
[07:35] <Eclypse> ladydoor really? hmm, I'll try it now then.
[07:35] <|CADE|> what directory would "libgstdecodebin.so" be in?
[07:35] <sethk> gemeindeba, and everything will be consistent.
[07:35] <cwillu> xipietotec: so anything you find there, select, then go to the package menu, go to force version, and force it to an older version (i can't remember if it'll display the currently installed version there)
[07:35] <eyequeue> !info bzip2
[07:35] <ubotu> bzip2: high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 258 kB, installed size 488 kB
[07:35] <expx> maybe need some addons
[07:36] <Eclypse> ladydoor this isant just any .bz2, this is .dmg.bz2 lol, the actual DMG file is compressed with .bz
[07:36] <foo> jatt: I just installed it and still get the same problewm
[07:36] <kozmic> jpegtran <-- what package is that binary in?
[07:36] <Eclypse> ladydoor so it might be a bit more complex :P
[07:36] <sethk> gemeindeba, it's not exactly the recommended way, but it works and it let's you keep up with the latest firefox release instead of having to wait for ubuntu to get around to making a package for the release
[07:36] <eyequeue> Eclypse, it should be there, but sudo apt-get install bzip2
[07:36] <cwillu> xipietotec: ping me when you've got it
[07:36] <ladydoor> Eclypse: right, but once you un-bzip2 it it'll just be .dmg, i promise
[07:36] <Neo8750> doesn't m[player play ape?
[07:36] <Eclypse> ladydoor, thanks, I'll try it now and tell you how it goes.
[07:36] <eyequeue> Eclypse, bunzip2 will work on it, regardless of whatever dmg is
[07:36] <ladydoor> Eclypse: sweet :-)
[07:36] <DaveyJ> how do i fully switch over to kde desktop (so thats the default one?)
[07:36] <DaveyJ> i currently have kde and gnome installed
[07:36] <Onimae> Neo8750: I don't know. Let me check...
[07:37] <sethk> gemeindeba, gemeindeba the symbol it is talking about XtCalloc, is in an X development library.  so you might try installing the X development packages, see if the problem goes away.
[07:37] <gemeindeba> sethk, ok, i will try that! thanks. if i install ff from the mozilla site, will ubuntu know that it is that other install it needs to use? and also, i installed that plugin using apt-get i am sure, and not firefox
[07:37] <xipietotec> Hrrmm....I found an x-server-xorg-driver
[07:37] <xipietotec> the rest are libgl's
[07:37] <gemeindeba> sethk, i wouldnt know how to install the x devel packages
[07:37] <cwillu> xipietotec: k, if they're showing up in the obsolete folder, they need to be forced to the older version
[07:37] <cwillu> including the gl stuff
[07:37] <sethk> gemeindeba, go into synaptic, select search, set the pulldown to name, and search for    x dev   (thats x space dev)
[07:38] <sethk> gemeindeba, and it will show you all packages that contain both x and dev
[07:38] <xipietotec> pretty much everything in the obsolete folder?
[07:38] <Onimae> Neo8750: No, it can't.
[07:38] <Eclypse> ladydoor, would it be a command like bzip2 -d?
[07:38] <sethk> gemeindeba, if you install it separately, it's true that the package manager won't know about it.  however, if you install it to a different directory, it won't interfere with anything else either.
[07:38] <gemeindeba> sethk, thats a mighty long list. you mean that add/remove thing don't you
[07:39] <eyequeue> bunzip2 (1)          - a block-sorting file compressor, v1.0.3
[07:39] <cwillu> xipietotec: probably;  anything in there was either installed via a downloaded deb file by hand, or was from a repository that you're no longer using
[07:39] <Neo8750> Eclypse: yes
[07:39] <ladydoor> Eclypse: no, it would just be bunzip2 filename
[07:39] <sethk> gemeindeba, yes.  I'm not saying install everything with x and dev in the package name, choose the ones that make sense.  such as    xwhatever-dev
[07:39] <Eclypse> ladydoor hmm, well I'm using bzip2 -d and it appears to be working
[07:39] <Eclypse> ladydoor, moreso then any other program :)
[07:39] <sethk> gemeindeba, I can search for XtCalloc, and then find the file it's in, and then find the package that contains that file, but it would take a while for that search to run.
[07:40] <Neo8750> bzip2 = bunzip2
[07:40] <gemeindeba> sethk, ok, i will need to reread all your messages slowly so that i can catch up with your advice. i will try to annoy you again in a couple of minutes.
[07:40] <foo> jatt: Any other ideas?
[07:40] <xipietotec> when I try to force version libgl1-mesa it tells me it will remove the following: ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core
[07:40] <foo> ~$ xterm -bg black
[07:40] <foo> Warning: Color name "black" is not defined
[07:40] <foo> Any ideas why I get that? Hm
[07:40] <sethk> gemeindeba, I was giving you several alternatives, you don't need to do them all, obviously.
[07:41] <ladydoor> Eclypse: you can do it that way, but it's generally considered easier/better to use bzip2 to zip and bunzip2 to unzip
[07:41] <cwillu> xipietotec: don't remove, just force to a previous version
[07:41] <cwillu> nevermind :p
[07:41] <gemeindeba> sethk, i gathered that, thank you. will try the one which seems do-able for me :)
[07:41] <ladydoor> Eclypse: though either can serve either function if you use the "force" options
[07:41] <Eclypse> ladydoor ah ic, well if it doesn't work I'll try it your way, but it appears to be really doing more then I ever thought it would :)
[07:41] <LightTitan> what is the comman to restart my xserver?
[07:41] <LightTitan> '
[07:41] <xipietotec> It's telling me it'll remove it if I try and force version
[07:41] <ladydoor> Eclypse: sweet. that's good news :-)
[07:41] <TEN> gemeindeba /lastlog sethk
[07:41] <LightTitan> or my graphics should I say
[07:42] <Eclypse> ladydoor, yep, I tried EVERYTHING, and nothing worked, I even tried some shit on windows (nothing on windows is even close to capable to do such things...)
[07:42] <LightTitan> What is the command to restart my graphics
[07:42] <gemeindeba> ten lastlog unknown command
[07:42] <cwillu> xipietotec: I believe that's a recent package split, so it should be okay;  jot down the package though, so you can reinstall from the terminal if you need to
[07:42] <ladydoor> Eclypse: yikes. yeah, bzip2/bunzip2 is just a good de/compressor
[07:42] <cwillu> xipietotec: you know how to install/update from the command line?
[07:42] <xipietotec> yeah
[07:42] <cwillu> k
[07:43] <LightTitan> cwillu, how do I restart my graphics again? BTW I am back into my Ubuntu installation thanks :)
[07:43] <sethk> Eclypse, there is nothing wrong with doing bzip -d
[07:43] <Eclypse> ladydoor, yeah because I don't have a Mac handy :(
[07:43] <EmxBA> what do i need for make and such commands?
[07:43] <Eclypse> sethk good
[07:43] <ladydoor> Eclypse: hmm
[07:43] <EmxBA> gcc autoconf automake ?
[07:43] <TEN> gemeindeba Your IRC client may have something similar by another name. It's basically e.g. irssi's way of doing a "grep keyword" on the scroll-back buffer
[07:43] <sethk> Eclypse, in fact, I suggest that new people use the separate commands, rather than the shortcuts that hide the commands
[07:43] <BiSk-8> hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?
[07:43] <ladydoor> EmxBA: you need to install build-essential
[07:43] <cwillu> xipietotec: once you've installed the forced versions, you should be able to update as normal to get everything up to date again, minus the xgl stuff
[07:43] <Eclypse> sethk yes I've always been a fan of the terminal :)
[07:43] <EmxBA> ladydorr: and some more - for compiling
[07:43] <sethk> Eclypse, such as, you can hide the bunzip2 step by using the j command on tar, which is fine if you know what you are doing
[07:43] <EmxBA> *ladydoor
[07:44] <ladydoor> sethk: i wouldn't really call "bunzip2" a shortcut hiding a command..
[07:44] <gemeindeba> ten thanks it logs all messages directed to me in another window
[07:44] <sethk> ladydoor, tar with j is a shortcut hiding the bunzip2 command
[07:44] <BiSk-8> brb
[07:44] <sethk> Eclypse, bunzip2 is a synonym for bzip -d
[07:44] <sethk> Eclypse, I wasn't talking about bzip2 -d vs bunzip2
[07:45] <ladydoor> sethk: oh, check.
[07:45] <sethk> ladydoor,  I wasn't talking about bzip2 -d vs bunzip2
[07:45] <ladydoor> sethk: check
[07:45] <Eclypse> sethk it's allllllll good, I've been trying to figure this out for 2 days
[07:45] <vishah> In which file do I set environment variables in ubuntu?
[07:45] <Eclypse> so now that its finally showing some promise, I'm happy
[07:45] <ladydoor> EmxBA: what do you mean? in order to compile programs you need to install build-essential and you should be fine unless it has unresolved dependencies, which it would tell you :-)
[07:45] <sethk> ladydoor, I tell people the same with doing loopback mounts.   do the separate losetup and mount command, rather than using the shortcut where mount runs losetup for you.
[07:45] <ladydoor> Eclypse: sweet!
[07:45] <xipietotec> okay...attempting...here goes nothing
[07:45] <BiSk-8> hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?
[07:45] <ladydoor> sethk: oh, ok. cool
[07:45] <EmxBA> ladydoor: ah, ok ;)
[07:45] <TEN> gemeindeba BTW what's ba ?
[07:46] <sethk> Eclypse, don't struggle when you can ask
[07:46] <LightTitan> how do I reset my graphics after I install a new driver?
[07:46] <ladydoor> EmxBA: sweet :-)
[07:46] <cwillu> xipietotec: good luck :)
[07:46] <sethk> Eclypse, well, struggle a bit, it helps you learn, but then ask.  :)
[07:46] <ladydoor> Eclypse: totally. people are glad to help
[07:46] <Eclypse> sethk, yeah I know, lol. the Ubuntu Community is really the largest helpful community on the net lol
[07:46] <Eclypse> sethk, ladydoor, what I usually do is I spend a couple hours trying to figrue it out, then I ask
[07:46] <vishah> hi, in which file do I set environment variables?
[07:46] <Eclypse> thats how I learned a shitload about Linux
[07:46] <expx> ctrl_alt_backspace to restart your X
[07:46] <gemeindeba> ten if you are referring to my nick, it is supposed to say gemeindebau but the client i think does not accept names that long. hence it cut off the u from the nick (Wolfgang Ambros: Du bist die Blume aus dem Gemeindebau)
[07:47] <xipietotec> YEY!!!!
[07:47] <cwillu> xipietotec: :)
[07:47] <xipietotec> I opened the screensaver manager without crashing
[07:47] <TEN> Is there a way to get "My bugs" in https://launchpad.net/malone (as e.g. in Bugzilla) - i.e. not the ones *assigned* *to* oneself, but the ones *reported* ?
[07:47] <xipietotec> thankyouthankyouthankyou =D
[07:47] <cwillu> lol
[07:48] <TEN> gemeindeba OIC looked like a German license plate or department acronym
[07:48] <sethk> Eclypse, that's really good, some people don't have the tolerance for frustration, but you really do learn a lot more struggling first, then asking.
[07:48] <xipietotec> My new computer will have xgl though, it's got the hardware for it
[07:48] <cwillu> xipietotec: wanna return the favour?
[07:48] <xipietotec> Sure =)
[07:48] <cwillu> xipietotec: see if you can find a way to force pam to always ask for a username :)
[07:48] <cwillu> I really don't wanna write a module to do it
[07:49] <Eclypse> sethk, I'm an existentialist, I like open-ended problems, I'm a good hacker, I can tweak things for hours as long as I see some progress being made.
[07:49] <gemeindeba> ten gemeindebau is actually an acronym for social housing provided by the local authorities
[07:49] <TEN> Not much of an acronym, is it? ;-)
[07:49] <cwillu> xipietotec: it looks like it'll do what I want if I can force the username provided by the app to blank, but I'm clueless as to how to do that
[07:50] <scifi> anyone know of a gui SQLite administrator ?
[07:50] <gemeindeba> ten no
[07:50] <gemeindeba> ten but i think it is a kind of slang. it should be sozialwohnung.
[07:51] <scifi> thats a no then :P
[07:51] <TEN> Where's that common term? Southeastern states?
[07:52] <TEN> +a
[07:52] <sergio_> ola...
[07:52] <Adam> where is the default hotplug directory on 6.06.1?
[07:52] <foo> xterm -bg black
[07:52] <foo> Warning: Color name "black" is not defined
[07:52] <foo> err, what the hec
[07:52] <foo> Why am I getting that?
[07:52] <foo> No one seems to know.
[07:52] <sergio_> ola... sou novo aqui....
[07:53] <sergio_> estou um tanto confuso
[07:53] <Homer> are there any RPGs for Linux?
[07:53] <TEN> foo Ag: The definitions should be in /etc/X11/rgb.txt AFAIK HTH
[07:53] <meheren> how do i delete a word from the abiword dictionary the word is Achileus
[07:53] <eXistenZ> What is the umask command for
[07:53] <foo> TEN: Yeah, they are.
[07:54] <eyequeue> man umask
[07:54] <Neo8750> eXistenZ: man umask
[07:54] <eXistenZ> eyequeue, I know this. doesn't work
[07:54] <eXistenZ> Neo8750, existenz@server1:~$ man umask
[07:54] <eXistenZ> No manual entry for umask
[07:54] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, you have no man command?
[07:54] <Neo8750> no entry
[07:54] <eXistenZ> eyequeue, Don't you read?
[07:54] <eXistenZ> It says no entry
[07:54] <enyc> meep moop
[07:55] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, chill please
[07:55] <TEN> foo Well mine has a line saying 0 0 0 black
[07:55] <Neo8750> eXistenZ: http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/umask.1.asp
[07:55] <scifi> anyone know how to insert several text files into one text file ?
[07:55] <foo> TEN: So does mine.
[07:55] <ladydoor> !attitude
[07:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:55] <Neo8750> !botsnack
[07:55] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:55] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, sudo apt-get install manpages-posix;man umask
[07:56] <foo> ladydoor: uh, hopefully that wasn't for me. I wasn't giving attitude ...
[07:56] <eyequeue> !info manpages-posix
[07:56] <xipietotec> Hrrmmm....which libpam?
[07:56] <ladydoor> foo: not for you. for eXistenZ
[07:56] <ubotu> manpages-posix: Manual pages about using POSIX system. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (dapper), package size 842 kB, installed size 1196 kB
[07:56] <foo> TEN: Weird, eh? I installed xrgb. Do I need to restart or something
[07:56] <foo> ladydoor: ah, my bad :)
[07:56] <ladydoor> :-)
[07:56] <eXistenZ> ladydoor, Do you hate me?
[07:56] <ketsugi|zzZ> !guidelines
[07:56] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:56] <marcel__> hello, i try to play a .avi whit VLC but i have no sound sometimes i hear about 0,5 sec a sound and then its gone does someone know what could be the problem?
[07:56] <don_jr> how can I tell what driver an adapter is using?
[07:57] <xipietotec> cwillu: which libpam are you working with?
[07:57] <vishah> If i want to add a PATH, what should I do?
[07:57] <marcel__> !avi
[07:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <scifi> anyone know how to insert several text files into one text file ?
[07:58] <eyequeue> scifi, cat
[07:58] <Eclypse> ladydoor, this is odd, it said Trailing garbage after EOF ignored, and the file wasent open-able :(
[07:58] <eyequeue> cat (1)              - concatenate files and print on the standard output
[07:58] <eyequeue> cat (1posix)         - concatenate and print files
[07:58] <ladydoor> eXistenZ: no...i just think that comments like "don't you read?" are unhelpful and insulting any any situation, but especially if someone's trying to help you
[07:58] <TEN> foo I don't know. My Xubuntu's X is showing its own share of weirdness, starting in resolutions it doesn't even have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (seems to be tricky to).
[07:58] <ladydoor> Eclypse: with what program?
[07:58] <jazzrocker> ladydoor++
[07:58] <eXistenZ> ladydoor, but he also claimed things that are not right.
[07:58] <foo> TEN: ah, weird. I had to relogin . hmm
[07:58] <foo> TEN: It works now
[07:58] <TEN> Maybe we should be looking for some sort of #xorg ? ;-)
[07:58] <cwillu> xipietotec: 0.79 it looks like (standard ubuntu)
[07:58] <foo> TEN: hehe
[07:58] <Eclypse> ladydoor,  hmm, well it doesnt appear to know of any program that can open .dmg's lol
[07:58] <BiSk-8> hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?
[07:58] <jazzrocker> foo, that's actually fairly common <- needing to logout/back in
[07:59] <ladydoor> eXistenZ: ok, i'm not saying he was right. there really isn't a man entry for umask on my system either. however, that's no cause to get mad
[07:59] <foo> jazzrocker: Yeah, but after installing that package.. hmm.
[07:59] <Eclypse> ladydoor, and I think it should be a bit larger, since my friend told me the extracted image should be 4.something GB, and its only 3.4 :P
[07:59] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, again, sudo apt-get install manpages-posix;man umask
[07:59] <TEN> foo Lucky you, JIT for the evening news ;-)
[07:59] <eXistenZ> ladydoor, umask is a bash command
[07:59] <scifi> eyequeue: thx will see if i can work it out
[07:59] <foo> TEN: JIT ? Hm
[07:59] <eyequeue> scifi, no prob
[07:59] <ladydoor> eXistenZ: if you would care to continue this conversation in a private message, i'd be fine with that, but i'm afraid it's gone off-topic
[08:00] <eXistenZ> That's okay
[08:00] <Ribs> check out #ubuntu-offtopic then :)
[08:00] <eyequeue> umask (1posix)       - get or set the file mode creation mask
[08:00] <eyequeue> umask (3posix)       - set and get the file mode creation mask
[08:00] <eyequeue> umask (2)            - set file mode creation mask
[08:00] <TEN> foo Just in time - well not yet if you're in the Americas of course
[08:00] <ladydoor> Eclypse: hmmm.i'm really sorry, but i don't know what to do to fix it :-(
[08:01] <scifi> eyequeue: forgot, how do i get out of "man" when in console :P
[08:01] <eyequeue> scifi, "q" (you're in "less")
[08:01] <enyc> scifi: well man  just calls on a pager
[08:01] <ladydoor> scifi: q
[08:01] <Eclypse> ladydoor hmm, I'll fiddle around with it for a few more hours :P lol
[08:01] <eyequeue> scifi, "q" for quit in less
[08:01] <ladydoor> Eclypse: aw...good luck
[08:01] <enyc> scifi: it normally uses less in ubunt  so press 'q'
[08:01] <Eclypse> ladydoor Linux is showing a lot more promise then windows :)
[08:01] <scifi> ty
[08:01] <scifi> yeh Q worked
[08:01] <enyc> scifi: I think you mean q
[08:01] <Neo8750> well here i go 50/50 chance system will be screwed
[08:01] <enyc> scifi: q is not the same letter as Q ;-)
[08:01] <scifi> even after a few days of not using linux, i forget these things so easily :( ....yeh i meant q
[08:01] <don_jr> I'm needing to use ndiswrapper to try and run my wireless usb device, how can I tell what driver it is using so I can blacklist it and load the new one?
[08:02] <BiSk-8> hello, i need help with mercury messenger, i installed it but it sais that there is a problem in the script when i launch it from terminal, and when i launch it from the application bar (its a gnome desktop) nothing happens, can anyone help me?
[08:02] <gemeindeba> sethk, i did what seemed easiest. i downloaded ff from moz and unpacked it. it does sit on my desktop, and i can run the version 1.5.0.6 by doubleclicking on on the firefox shell script.  now, where do i best put that directory?
[08:02] <DaveyJ> hey
[08:02] <Neo8750> don_jr: one second
[08:03] <Vegeta> How can I edit and save the /etc/fstab ? It keeps saying acces denied... It doesn't ask for password or anything. Why?
[08:03] <eyequeue> Vegeta, sudo
[08:03] <DaveyJ> i currently have KDE and gnome installed.. how do i do a full switch to kubuntu by default?
[08:03] <ladydoor> Eclypse: sweet! you might google, like, filetype linux to find something
[08:03] <Ecnassianer> I have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?
[08:03] <cl2imson> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[08:03] <don_jr> neo8750 take your time.
[08:03] <ladydoor> Vegeta: you need to su, but first you need to copy it
[08:03] <ladydoor> Vegeta: *use sudo i mean, not su
[08:03] <Neo8750> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[08:03] <recon0> I just added the xpenguins applet. Now all of my panels are frozen, even after rebooting. Anything I can do?
[08:03] <eyequeue> ladydoor, :)
[08:03] <ladydoor> Vegeta: and i would use these commands:  1) sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak  2) sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[08:03] <Vegeta> ladydoor: HOw do you mean?
[08:03] <Eclypse> ladydoor, googling rarly ever helps me llol
[08:03] <Vegeta> ok ill try
[08:03] <ladydoor> Vegeta: good luck!
[08:03] <Vegeta> :)
[08:03] <ladydoor> Eclypse: yeah...well, good luck!
[08:03] <ladydoor> eyequeue: haha
[08:03] <cwillu> cd ~
[08:03] <cwillu> oops
[08:03] <viller> how can I change the language in GNOME?
[08:03] <Eclypse> ladydoor, ty
[08:03] <cwillu> wrong window :p
[08:04] <ladydoor> Eclypse: np
[08:04] <link_36p> Anyone here know how i can fix apt-get? It wont install anything or upgrade and gives the error "E: The package lg3d-core needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:04] <link_36p> "
[08:04] <Neo8750> don_jr: also use lsusb to find out what card you have
[08:04] <recon0> Is there any way to reset my panels? All of them have frozen. Rebooting doesn't help.
[08:04] <eyequeue> viller, install whatever you want, then system > administration > language
[08:04] <Neo8750> recon0: kill and then reload?
[08:04] <don_jr> neo8750 It recognizes my card, how do I tell what driver it is currently trying to use so I can blacklist it?
[08:04] <wladston> hey again guys ... it worked after editing ftab ...  :)
[08:05] <viller> eyequeue: I only have "language support" there
[08:05] <scifi> cant seem to navigate to "Documents and Settings" folder on my windows drive in the console, but i can in thunar file manager
[08:05] <eyequeue> viller, that's the one
[08:05] <wladston> now the problem is : nautilus doesn't natively support already written-cd-rws ??
[08:05] <scifi> o i remember its the gaps isnt it
[08:05] <Neo8750> ndiswrapper -l  ?
[08:05] <ladydoor> cl2imson: i don't mean this in a rude way, but you might consider prescribing a more "beginner-friendly" text-editor to beginners :-)...either of the religious-war editors is a little to powerful/not immediately obvious, i think
[08:05] <Neo8750> [with out the ?
[08:05] <eyequeue> viller, have you installed whatever language packs you want via synaptic yet?
[08:05] <Roelt> Hey, I've got a question/problem with initramfs: I've got two raid-1 arrays combined to raid-0 array.. but it fails to start the raid-0 array...
[08:05] <wladston> i've looked alwhere to clear a CD-RW, and found nothing
[08:06] <viller> eyequeue: yes I hav
[08:06] <viller> e
[08:06] <riddlebox> does anyone else have problems with php + apache and phpmyadmin, where when you try to access phpmyadmin it will ask you to download the file not display it?
[08:06] <wladston> seems like it can only burn CD-RWs
[08:06] <don_jr> neo8750 I'll try that, but ndiswrapper is not what is controling the device at the moment, I have to blacklist what ubuntu set it up as so ndiswrapper can take it over don't I?
[08:06] <eyequeue> viller, the menu command should be what you need then
[08:06] <Roelt> riddlebox, try restarting apache
[08:06] <sethk> gemeindeba, I put it in /usr/local/firefox.  it is conventional to put compiled or non-package manager stuff in /usr/local.  the subdirectory of /usr/local is arbitrary, so why not use firefox for firefox?
[08:06] <adri_> hi everybody
[08:06] <ladydoor> scifi: also, on the console you can use "tab" to get filename completions if you don't want to use double-quotes or type the backslashes before spaces (it makes everything a *lot* faster)
[08:06] <viller> eyequeue: menu command?
[08:06] <cvt> how do i stop gxine from trying to play embedded videos since it can't play any of them?
[08:06] <Neo8750> don_jr: i don't know then
[08:06] <eyequeue> viller, system > administration > language
[08:06] <tca> Trying to get direct rendering to work. I get two lines in var/log/messages that I think is related to this: "[drm]  Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102" and "**** SET: Misaligned resource pointer: ceb3cf02 Type 07 Len 0".
[08:06] <wladston> none of you managed to erase a cd-rw using only nautilus too ?
[08:06] <scifi> ladydoor: thnx for reminding me, i knew there was a quicker way :)
[08:06] <rss> Hi! I had asked a query here earlier, I am updating about it
[08:07] <ladydoor> scifi: np!
[08:07] <Ecnassianer> link_36p, have you tried apt-get remove lg3d-core ?
[08:07] <viller> eyequeue: I tick the language and then what?
[08:07] <adri_> i have a trouble, i instaled the ati drivers and the system runs ok, but when linux boots, the initial screen doesn't appears, and the monitor is turned off. anyway, i can insert the user and the password so the session starts
[08:07] <rss> I've installed 64bit Dapper Drake on AMD Sempron 2300+ 64bit machine...
[08:07] <viller> how can I make GNOME use that language?
[08:08] <wladston> okay okay ... in this case I'm going to report a bug at bugzilla ...
[08:08] <marcel__> !avi
[08:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:08] <gemeindeba> sethk, well... whatever did you expect but me concluding that i do not have the permissions to do that copying.
[08:08] <ladydoor> don_jr: is what you're trying to blacklist the native bcm43xx driver?
[08:08] <rss> after logging through GDM, gnome was not appearing(or so I assumed)
[08:08] <eyequeue> viller, "okay" and log out
[08:08] <sethk> gemeindeba, use sudo
[08:08] <marcel__> i can get ubuntu to play .avi whit VLC but then i have no sound does someone know what might be the problem?
[08:08] <sethk> gemeindeba, or copy as root
[08:08] <gemeindeba> sethk, i feared so
[08:08] <don_jr> ladydoor it may be, I"m not sure what it's trying to use, is there a way I can find out?
[08:08] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, even n00bs should become familiar with vi/vim because they're nearly always installed
[08:08] <DaveyJ> i currently have KDE and gnome installed.. how do i do a full switch to kubuntu by default?
[08:08] <ladydoor> don_jr: do you know what driver your ndiswrapper is using?
[08:08] <rss> only a brown(regular background) colored background with a active cursor was appearing
[08:09] <gemeindeba> i'll copy as root, was that sudo nautilus root ?
[08:09] <don_jr> ladydoor the one I copied off of the CD
[08:09] <rss> the actual problem is that DMA is not set on
[08:09] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: i'll agree, but add that emacs should be a learning option, and also add that they should be learned at their leisure and not as a requisite for getting help :-)
[08:09] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, please don't run apps unnecessarily as root, sudo cp foo bar
[08:09] <link_36p> Ecnassianer - ive tried exactly that spits out the same error
[08:09] <rss> I tried setting DMA on ... but got an error message that it's "not permitted"
[08:09] <ladydoor> don_jr: right, ok, do ndiswrapper -l and what does it say the driver's called?
[08:10] <gemeindeba> eyequeue, which is a very wise advice i will follow
[08:10] <adri_> i have a trouble, i instaled the ati drivers and the system runs ok, but when linux boots, the initial screen doesn't appears, and the monitor is turned off. anyway, i can insert the user and the password so the session starts. can anybody help me?
[08:10] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, nautilus has too many places it may not have been checked for root-safe-ness :)
[08:10] <Ecnassianer> link_36p, try dpkg deinstall ld3d-core (or whatever that package was called)
[08:10] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, nah... emacs isn't worth the bloat... and besides, emacs is nearly always not installed... wheras vi/vim nearly always is
[08:10] <don_jr> ladydoor it tells me the drivers I just put into ndiswrapper.  But if I restart, will it then revert back to the original? will I have to modprobe it every time I start up?
[08:10] <eyequeue> !info nano
[08:11] <ubotu> nano: free Pico clone with some new features. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.10-1 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[08:11] <fuoco> does anyone know how to share a printer from ubuntu ?
[08:11] <gemeindeba> eyequeue, i am already in my terminal to figure out how to copy whole subdirectories at once
[08:11] <scifi> i cant get out of this "cat" command, cant get it to work either
[08:11] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, if we're talking about straight recommendation of text editors for someone who says "what's a good text editor" yeah sure, let them choose between emacs/vim/scite whatever
[08:11] <riddlebox> Roelt, I have done that, but it doesnt work, this happens on all dapper systems I install
[08:11] <eyequeue> jazzrocker, ^^ nano will be on any ubuntu box :)
[08:11] <jazzrocker> eyequeue, but not necessarily on any of the other flavors of *nix
[08:11] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, sudo cp /some/subdir/ /some/where/else/ :)
[08:12] <Ecnassianer> I have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?
[08:12] <eyequeue> jazzrocker, no, but this is #ubuntu and we don't support those others :)
[08:12] <scifi> eyequeue: how do i quit out of "cat" command. q doesnt work
[08:12] <abhinay> i have a problem with font, eventhough i change my application font, it doens't change , why ?
[08:12] <riddlebox> scifi, ctrl + c
[08:12] <ladydoor> don_jr: i'm asking you what it says the driver is called so we can know what to blacklist
[08:12] <gemeindeba> eyequeue, i am trying to figure out if that copies subdirectories as well. i have to get used to using man <command>
[08:12] <eyequeue> scifi, you probably want a ^D to signify end of input there
[08:12] <scifi> riddlebox: ty
[08:12] <eyequeue> scifi, control plus d
[08:12] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: good point...however, for beginners i tend to recommend nano as it is beginner-friendly and installed in ubuntu
[08:12] <jazzrocker> vi/vim is standard across nearly all *nix's ... and eyequeue the point is not the specific ubuntu support it's the learning of linuxes in general ... if at all possible good habits should be taught that span all distros
[08:13] <don_jr> ladydoor when I do ndiswrapper right now, it tells me the driver that I just installed with it.
[08:13] <jazzrocker> yeh anyway
[08:13] <finalbeta> Anyone know hddtemp? How do I add a drive model? It's not known but it is supported, I need it inside the supported list, so it will show up standard.
[08:13] <BHSPitLappy> Right when a "make" operation finished for me just now, all keyboard input stopped in my gnome session. I can't type into any program! Typing works on my VT's, so it's not hardware failure.
[08:13] <ladydoor> don_jr: yes, what is it called?
[08:13] <ladydoor> don_jr: please
[08:13] <BHSPitLappy> Is there any service I could restart to get the keyboard up again?
[08:13] <eyequeue> jazzrocker, i disagree, there are many *nix things that are inappropriate in ubuntu, such as su and root
[08:13] <don_jr> ladydoor ndiswrapper -l shows me the name of the file I just did ndiswrapper -i <file>  it says rt2500usb
[08:13] <fuoco> is it possible to share a printer from ubuntu ?
[08:13] <ladydoor> don_jr: i can't answer your question until you answer mind.
[08:13] <scifi> eyequeue: the list of text files are comedy1.txt throught to comedy 60.txt. so i just typed "cat comedy1 - comedy60.txt". obviously thats wrong.pls advise
[08:13] <Vegeta> I want to "mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom" but it says only root can do that, how can I login as root :S?
[08:13] <fuoco> i don't see where i choose that option
[08:14] <ladydoor> don_jr: ah, ok. and you were having a problem with a native driver for that running at startup?
[08:14] <xipietotec> cwillu: have you tried fooling around with the access module?
[08:14] <BHSPitLappy> scifi, cat comedy*.txt ?
[08:14] <jazzrocker> eyequeue, no you don't disagree, because you didn't read what i said carefully... "if at all possible" <- covers your case scenario
[08:14] <Ecnassianer> BHSPitLappy, Perhaps restarting X
[08:14] <jazzrocker> eyequeue, it's an idiom, it's meant to be taken loosely
[08:14] <BHSPitLappy> Ecnassianer, I don't think I should have to go that far.
[08:14] <eyequeue> scifi, hmm, i don't know if thie will give you the ordering you like, but "cat comedy* > newcomedy.txt"  and then "less newcomedy.txt" to read it and check
[08:14] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: it's not commonly considered polite to tell people what they do and don't agree with...
[08:14] <don_jr> ladydoor possibly yes. It's still not working after having unstalled the drivers via ndiswrapper, and I've modprobed it to start it up.
[08:15] <Ecnassianer> BHSPitLappy, Probably true
[08:15] <link_36p> Ecnassianer - http://pastebin.ca/165275
[08:15] <spielmann> hey there =) I have a KWorld DVB-T 310U USB Tv-tuner. I have been googling somewhat and haven't found anything clear. Could anyone show me the way to how to get this tv-tuner to work in Ubuntu? Thank you very much
[08:15] <ladydoor> don_jr: oh! ok, try this. sudo ifdown eth0 <enter> sudo ifup wlan0 <enter> (in a terminal)
[08:15] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, friendly or helpful <- choose one (from smart-questions)
[08:15] <Vegeta> How can I acces the root account, when I want to write the command "mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom", and it says that only root can do that?
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> scifi, or "cat comedy*.txt | less"
[08:15] <cwillu> xipietotec: I looked at it;  didn't get the impression it could trigger a username request though
[08:16] <cwillu> xipietotec: I'll look at the source code though, it might do something
[08:16] <jazzrocker> i'll say it again
[08:16] <jazzrocker> "yeh, anyway" <- hint hint, lets drop it
[08:16] <eyequeue> Vegeta, no, please read what the bot sends you
[08:16] <scifi> BHSPitLappy/eyequeue: ok i did "cat comedy*.txt" which seems to have worked but its 13 pages in less, so i need to output to a new text file name and open in an editor i think
[08:16] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > Vegeta
[08:16] <don_jr> ladydoor will try that, but should I use rausb0 since that's what it recognizes my wireless as instead of wlan0? or not?
[08:16] <xipietotec> You might try it, it looks like it at least forces access to authorized usernames.
[08:16] <eyequeue> scifi, "cat comedy* > newcomedy.txt"
[08:16] <ladydoor> don_jr: oh, ok. use that instead
[08:17] <xipietotec> so even if it doesn't "ask" for a username, only the authorized usernames will have access.
[08:17] <xipietotec> at least that's the impression I got
[08:17] <scifi> eyequeue: yeh :)
[08:17] <DaveyJ> i currently have KDE and gnome installed.. how do i do a full switch to kubuntu by default?
[08:17] <Vegeta> ahhh ok, so that what sudo means thanks :D
[08:17] <beerfan> what package do I need to install to get a /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build directory?
[08:17] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: if you would care to continue this conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic, i would be glad to continue it there; otherwise i'm done :-)
[08:17] <Ecnassianer> link_36p, Have you tried apt-get -f   (or maybe it was apt-get -f install, I forget)
[08:17] <gemeindeba> i am too stupid for this
[08:18] <beerfan> I'm trying to build madwifi-ng and it's complaining that the build directory is missing
[08:18] <cwillu> xipietotec: it looks like what I need is a module that calls pam_set_item(PAM_USER, (const void *)user) with a null user
[08:18] <cwillu> anything else won't actually change the user that's being auth'd against
[08:18] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, no, it's just new to you
[08:18] <Ecnassianer> link_36p, Package is in a very bad inconsistent state <--- I really don't like the words "very bad" :)
[08:18] <cwillu> the ftp module does something similar, so I know what to look for in a module now at least :)
[08:18] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: "if you believe in your faults, then they are indeed yours"
[08:18] <Ecnassianer> I've never heard apt-get speak that way
[08:19] <xipietotec> don_jr: This is what I have to do to bring up my wireless: Sudo ifconfig wlan0, sudo ifup eth1 (It'll immediately change wlan0 to eth1 in my case)
[08:19] <maki> hello
[08:19] <gemeindeba> eyequeue, ladydoor as i said before you gotta fall down before you can stand up. i am falling down. i copied the files succesfully. stupid me i started the old version again. ok, i started the new version again from /usr/local/firefox, but it only starts the old version
[08:19] <maki> had somebedy used xconfig for compile kernel?
[08:19] <Eclypse> ladydoor, Linux shouldn't be able to open .dmg's by default, right?
[08:20] <jazzrocker> maki, i usually use make menuconfig, why
[08:20] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: what was your goal? did you just install a new firefox?
[08:20] <fuoco> when i use the cups web interface and it asks for login what do i need to put ?
[08:20] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, okay, let me try an explicit command for you ... where exactly is the new version you would like to run?
[08:20] <ladydoor> Eclypse: i honestly don't know. i don't even know what one is :-/
[08:20] <jazzrocker> maki, i'm pretty sure you need Tk installed to get xconfig to work
[08:20] <gemeindeba> eyequeue, the new version, is, in /usr/local/firefox/<all ff files and folders>
[08:20] <scifi> eyequeue: hmmm i have upto pages 4 in the text output, but theres another 10 pages that arent there. theres a line at the bottom showing [next]  [5]  [6]  [7]  and so on...
[08:21] <gemeindeba> ladydoor, you call it installing, i just downloaded and unpacked!
[08:21] <markuz> hi
[08:21] <maki> i run it but i dont really know wheter [*]  is module or installed on kernel or [v]  is module
[08:21] <markuz> a nice tutorial about XGL ?
[08:21] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, try running it as "/usr/local/firefox/firefox" from a terminal
[08:21] <jazzrocker> maki, * should mean "compiled in"
[08:21] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: sweet. ok, you might need to divert ubuntu's firefox to make it easier, and then you can add a symlink in /usr/local/bin
[08:21] <maki> yes
[08:21] <eyequeue> !xgl > markuz
[08:21] <beerfan> Does dapper support madwifi-ng? I notice there are directories for madwifi and madwifi-ng in /lib/modules/2.6.15-686
[08:21] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: if you're interested i could explain that
[08:21] <Ecnassianer> I have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?
[08:22] <markuz> eyequeue, thanks!!
[08:22] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, if that works, then yes, you have it working, and ladydoor's symlink will be perfect for you from here on :)
[08:22] <eyequeue> markuz, no prob
[08:23] <scifi> does emacs have a gui ?
[08:23] <cwillu> lol@scifi
[08:23] <jazzrocker> scifi, yes, it's called xemacs
[08:23] <eyequeue> what doesn't emacs have? ;-)
[08:23] <jazzrocker> scifi, but vim is better than emacs... and gvim > xemacs
[08:23] <ladydoor> scifi: actually, the default emacs install comes with a gtk version
[08:24] <ladydoor> !best
[08:24] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:24] <eyequeue> nosse, xemacs is actually a fork off the emacs project
[08:24] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, i never said best :)
[08:24] <cwillu> scifi, I laugh at you only because the 'gui' acts exactly like the terminal mode;  it probably won't make it any easier to learn
[08:24] <gemeindeba> eyequeue, ladydoor i just had the proof that i am too stupid for it. and that i am willing to work on it. i had an old firefox windows still open, very well hidden. so now i closed that one and - hurray .06 is working again. now i am going to change that lovely standard firefox icon in my panel and afterwards i want to know what a symlink is!
[08:24] <jazzrocker> scifi, regular emacs actually will launch an X based version if you run it from inside X
[08:24] <ladydoor> scifi: so yes, if you don't start it only with emacs -nw then it will launch an X version
[08:24] <jazzrocker> cwillu++
[08:24] <beerfan> What information is needed so that someone will answer my madwifi upgrade questions?
[08:25] <cwillu> doh
[08:25] <DAaaMan64> I am trying to follow this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 for a dual screen setup and I am having no luck.  It maybe because neither of my device sections have a BusID can someone tell me how correctly find a busID for my nvidia card?
[08:25] <eyequeue> gemeindeba, think of it as a pointer, it stands for "symbolic link" (as opposed to "hard link") and is made with ln -s
[08:25] <arvind_> hi
[08:25] <cwillu> xipietotec: there's a small chance that pam_permit does what I want, strangley enough :)
[08:25] <ladydoor> eyequeue: what exactly is a hard link anyway?
[08:25] <scifi> hmmm, ok i think my question should be, whats a good gui-based text editor to use. basically im looking for something like textpad but for linux.
[08:25] <arvind_> \can i have the url to ubuntu repository sites please
[08:25] <gemeindeba> ladydoor, eyequeue thanks for all your patience. you did it (with my generous help :) )
[08:25] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: sweeeet!
[08:26] <Crippy-Boy> gedit?
[08:26] <scifi> im sorry but i just dont feel comfortable with command typing :P
[08:26] <scifi> too much to remember
[08:26] <ladydoor> arvind_: are you trying to regenerate your sources.list?
[08:26] <ladydoor> scifi: haha...it gets better
[08:26] <eyequeue> ladydoor, only works on the same physical partition, but has a tiny bit less "overhead" i guess you would say.  i always use symlinks, because there's no telling how someone partitioned things :)
[08:26] <BiSk-8> hello, how do i install "strings" for my ubuntu
[08:26] <arvind_> no ladydoor i need to download apache package as i scrwed up one of the file
[08:26] <ladydoor> eyequeue: oh, ok. cool. yeah, i always use symlinks too.
[08:26] <scifi> Crippy_Boy: its too basic. i need something that has the features of vim/emacs but gui based
[08:26] <gemeindeba> ladydoor, i used to be such a clean boy in w32. now i suppose i got the ff files twice. do i worry about them eating up place (as a question of principle) or is it better (in any case safer) to just let the older version be...?
[08:27] <eyequeue> ladydoor, a hardlink increments the field just after the rwx in ls -l :)
[08:27] <arvind_> ladydoor: i donot wish to use apt-get on this so i wanted to download the pkg and get that missing file again
[08:27] <Crippy-Boy> scifi: What features does it have to have?
[08:27] <anon32> how's WINE's DirectX support?
[08:27] <Subhuman> anon32, not very well?
[08:27] <ladydoor> arvind_: oh, you want to reinstall? that shouldn't be too hard :-). sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[08:27] <Crippy-Boy> anon32: rubbish
[08:27] <anon32> darn
[08:27] <ladydoor> eyequeue: oh, ok
[08:27] <jazzrocker> DAaaMan64, lspci ?
[08:27] <Subhuman> anon32, if you want good directX support you basically have to use cedega
[08:27] <anon32> damn it...
[08:27] <eyequeue> arvind_, apt-get --download-only leaves it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if that's of help
[08:27] <tizwonder> 3ddesktop = uber :)
[08:27] <scifi> Crippy_Boy: ability to insert multiple text files into one file, advanced search & replace etc
[08:27] <beerfan> How do I install the latest madwifi-ng drivers in Dapper?
[08:27] <xipietotec> cwillu: w00t!, if not you may be able to mess with the settings in the userdb module, making it to where it does not auto-detect the user's auth.
[08:27] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: you should leave the old version
[08:28] <gemeindeba> ladydoor, will do
[08:28] <ladydoor> gemeindeba: a lot of programs may depend on the ubuntu version
[08:28] <arvind_> ladydoor:  no no no reinstall ....... i want the pkg download site i wana retrieve one file
[08:28] <jazzrocker> scifi, gvim is gui based
[08:28] <eyequeue> arvind_, apt-get --download-only install foo, if you want that
[08:28] <anon32> um, command to upgrade the distro please?
[08:28] <gemeindeba> ladydoor, ok
[08:28] <jazzrocker> scifi, SciTE is the only other editor that's worth a damn aside from vim/emacs (as far as I've used)
[08:28] <eyequeue> anon32, suco apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:28] <Crippy-Boy> dist-update?
[08:28] <BonBonTheJon> does anyone know what package would have drivers for network cards
[08:28] <DAaaMan64> jazzrocker: I see that "0000:01:00.0" but it doesn't see valid as compared to something like "PCI:01:00" what am I not understanding?
[08:29] <jazzrocker> scifi, it still doesn't come close to either because of lacking keybindings
[08:29] <eyequeue> anon32, sudo (not suco) apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:29] <jazzrocker> DAaaMan64, i don't know from there, sorry
[08:29] <DAaaMan64> seem* not see*
[08:29] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: would you please take the editor comparison to #ubuntu-offtopic or to private messages? it'll cut down on traffic here
[08:29] <anon32> eyequeue: twice? will upgrading require me to download the entire distro?
[08:29] <Crippy-Boy> dist-upgrade* sorry
[08:29] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, uhhhh, maybe you should tell that to scifi
[08:29] <ladydoor> BonBonTheJon: it really depends on what network card.
[08:29] <anon32> hmm
[08:29] <eyequeue> anon32, no, i typed tyhe first time ..., here, just do this line...
[08:29] <jazzrocker> "<scifi> Crippy_Boy: its too basic. i need something that has the features of vim/emacs but gui based"
[08:30] <eyequeue> anon32, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:30] <vishah> arvind_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:30] <arvind_> thanks vishah :)
[08:30] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: ok, i'm just saying that since you are the participant i'm already aware of. i figured you would inform the others. *shrug*
[08:30] <eyequeue> anon32, update is a "reset to current" and upgrade is the "do it" that you want
[08:30] <mikeconcepts> I just completed a new install of 6.06 on a P4 and want to find a link for setting up dual monitor geforce 5200 FX
[08:30] <scifi> jazzrocker: thx will look into that 1
[08:30] <eyequeue> anon32, and i meant i typOed the first time, heh
[08:30] <don_> ladydoor I'm on my wireless, now I need to figure out how to make it auto set up so I don't have to ifup rausb0 and modprobe ndiswrapper every time I restart the computer.
[08:31] <anon32> eyequeue: I see, will upgrading require me to download the entire 700M install image?
[08:31] <jazzrocker> scifi, and at last resort... kate
[08:31] <cwillu> xipietotec: ./configure & make;  lets see what this does :)
[08:31] <sinisterr> how can i tell what flavor of ubuntu im running?
[08:31] <eyequeue> anon32, no, that combo command line i gave you will only fetch those packages which have changed
[08:31] <Crippy-Boy> Lick it.
[08:31] <sinisterr> lol
[08:31] <TheSheep> [17209168.288000]  NVRM: not using NVAGP, an AGPGART backend is loaded!  <--- how to prevent agpgart loading?
[08:31] <ladydoor> don_: ok, first i would use sudo ndiswrapper -m
[08:32] <eyequeue> !version > sinisterr
[08:32] <cwillu> sinisterr: weird question to answer kinda, but you can check in synaptic which of kubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-desktop/etc are installed
[08:32] <gemeindeba> mikeconcepts, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174278 - the ubuntuforums are a GREAT place to find common answers
[08:32] <beerfan> eyequeue, do you know which package is needed to compile drivers?
[08:32] <ladydoor> don_: and what happened to do that for me was to one, single time take down your wireless in the network GUI and then bring it back up again and hit "ok"
[08:32] <mikeconcepts> gemeindeba: Thanks
[08:32] <gemeindeba> mikeconcepts, you have installed the drivers, have you
[08:32] <xipietotec> cwillu: Aren't the window themes different as well?
[08:32] <anon32> eyequeue: and will that include the kernel if it's changed?
[08:32] <gemeindeba> the nvidia drivers, that is not covered there i think
[08:32] <mikeconcepts> gemeindeba: oh, no I have not
[08:33] <tizwonder> anyone know how to get tru ANSI fonts working with bitchx?
[08:33] <eyequeue> beerfan, start with sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:33] <don_> ladydoor it added wlan0 to an alias. not rausb0.  I may try going into the network intervaces config gui, but every time I've tried to mess with rausb0 interface it's locked up the computer.
[08:33] <eyequeue> anon32, if the current kernel package you have installed changed, yes
[08:33] <gemeindeba> mikeconcepts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[08:33] <gemeindeba> mikeconcepts, not above site please
[08:33] <eyequeue> anon32, if you have a 386 kernel, it won't fetch a 686 kernel
[08:33] <DAaaMan64> In someones xorg.conf how is it correctly written as, "BusID" or "BusId"?? I don't have that in my device section.
[08:34] <Xardas> hi
[08:34] <ladydoor> don_: ah. well, in that case i don't know
[08:34] <Xardas> does anyone use pypanel?
[08:34] <anon32> eyequeue: and how would you change from a 386 to a 686 kernel?
[08:34] <jazzrocker> Xardas, i used to why
[08:34] <mikeconcepts> gemeindeba: thanks again, I will need to install nvidia drivers before attempting anythig else
[08:34] <LinuxHelp> Does anybody know of an ftp client that can do recursive file searching?
[08:34] <eyequeue> anon32, if you do happen to WANT a 686 kernel, sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
[08:34] <Xardas> jazzrocker: could you help me?
[08:34] <Xardas> i try to configure it
[08:34] <jazzrocker> !ask
[08:34] <gemeindeba> mikeconcepts, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 to install nvidia drivers in 6.06
[08:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:34] <fl> hello
[08:34] <ladydoor> hi!
[08:34] <anon32> eyequeue: I see, what's the advantage of a 686 kernel over a 386?
[08:34] <bam_> hi...I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. I am trying to find anyone that could help me with me damned graphics card from intel. It will not, in anyway, show all the possible resolutions. Anyone?
[08:35] <eyequeue> anon32, a bit more optimized (faster) for newer cpus
[08:35] <mikeconcepts> gemeindeba: OK, 2nd link understood
[08:35] <ladydoor> !language
[08:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:35] <jazzrocker> bam_, lemme guess... i810 chipset ...
[08:35] <Xardas> everytime when i change the background color in the script to "000000" it isn't really white.. then it's something like green, jazzrocker
[08:35] <bam_> ofcourse!
[08:35] <BonBonTheJon> is there an ubuntu server channel
[08:35] <anon32> eyequeue: and what exactly is a "new cpu"?
[08:35] <gemeindeba> bam_ what card do you have? what chip?
[08:35] <jazzrocker> Xardas, ummmm... yeah that's because 000000 is black and ffffff is white
[08:35] <eyequeue> anon32, what cpu do you have?  that would be for a p4 for example
[08:35] <bam_> I have a intel 855GM
[08:36] <jazzrocker> Xardas, and if it's transparent it'll color the panel to match the background
[08:36] <bam_> I have done the whole "915resolution" thing to death!
[08:36] <anon32> eyequeue: and I happen to have a 64-bit P4
[08:36] <eyequeue> anon32, if you had an amd, you would use something else
[08:36] <jazzrocker> bam_, yeah part of the i810 chipset series
[08:36] <xipietotec> jazz: Heh, that's interesting too. I have that chipset and my resolution only goes up to 1024x768
[08:36] <gemeindeba> mikeconcepts, third link to install drivers, first link to install dualmonitor support
[08:36] <jazzrocker> bam_, there are "known problems" with that chipset as actually admitted by intel
[08:36] <anon32> so, 386 for me?
[08:36] <eyequeue> anon32, yes, 686 would be good for you
[08:36] <jazzrocker> !resolution
[08:36] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:36] <anon32> ok, 686 it is
[08:36] <Xardas> jazzrocker: hmmm
[08:36] <Xardas> i want to have a white, transparent panel
[08:37] <nownot> im getting a error on boot, /bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off
[08:37] <jazzrocker> Xardas, then use ffffff
[08:37] <Xardas> i do so
[08:37] <Xardas> it's still something green
[08:37] <don_jr> ladydoor Okay, it started up from reboot, but it did lock up when I deactivated/reactivated....either way, it starts at reboot now, thank you very much!
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> There is not too much difference in speed between 386 and 686 kernels
[08:37] <nownot> it wont even boot
[08:37] <mikeconcepts> gemeindeba: Got it, understood
[08:37] <gemeindeba> bam_, did you try http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/installing-intel-815852855-graphics-controller-drivers-on-ubuntu-debian/ ? (i am really great on google, am i not)
[08:37] <ladydoor> don_jr: np! glad to help!
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> You can have both available at the grub prompt
[08:37] <anon32> who the heck is "Jack Sparrow"?
[08:37] <scifi> jazzrocker: scite looks good. but do u know if its possible to insert several text files into one ?
[08:37] <jazzrocker> Xardas, transparent == adopts the color of the background. if your background is green your pypanel will be slightly greenish white
[08:37] <xipietotec> jazzrocker so it's prettymuch impossible to get a higher resolution?
[08:37] <anon32> everyone laughs at me when I ask that...
[08:38] <jazzrocker> !resolution > xipietotec
[08:38] <jazzrocker> xipietotec, i don't know
[08:38] <superkirbyartist> How to update from breezy to draper help please.
[08:38] <frogger> I'm setting up an ubuntu server for file backup. I'm creating a RAID1 array from 2 hard disks. Should I set both of these as active partitions, or one as active and one as spare? My primary concern is data preservation, rather than performance.
[08:38] <Neo8750> jack sparrow is a pirate
[08:38] <eyequeue> !upgrade > superkirbyartist
[08:38] <Farchord> hey guys, I have a question.... I have a 64-bit processor. But I do know that support for 64-bit systems are still low. I saw ubuntu had an x64 version, but how's the driver support in x64 linux?
[08:38] <cwillu> xipietotec: well, I've got a new pam_user.so .  I now wonder whether it's actually a pam module :)
[08:38] <bam_> gemeindeba, I have tried that.no luck
[08:38] <bam_> :(
[08:38] <marcel__> hello when i try to play a .avi i have no sound.. i installed all the gstreamer 0.10 does someone know what might be the problem ( i do have sound ;))
[08:38] <nownot> ok has anyone ever seen this error /bin/sh: cant access tty job control turned off, or know how to fix this, my comp wont boot
[08:38] <maxBUTTON> h3y p33ps
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> xipietotec: what video driver does your xorg say you are using?
[08:38] <jazzrocker> xipietotec, i just know i've had that chipset on numerous Brand Name(TM) machines and it sucks <- my problems were different
[08:39] <Xardas> hmmm.. jazzrocker. my desktop isn't really green.. it's more a black/brown thing
[08:39] <Neo8750> marcel__: do you have sound otherwise??
[08:39] <marcel__> Neo8750: yes
[08:39] <anon32> farchord: only as good as whatever the manufacturer of your computer's components are willing to provide
[08:39] <eyequeue> Farchord, most that run 64 bit machines will advise you to run the 32 bit ubuntu i guess, for that reason
[08:39] <maxBUTTON> anyone kn0w h0w i c4n g3t 4 pr0n b4ash m3nu?
[08:39] <gemeindeba> Farchord, i have a 64bit processor and i checked around, i found out that there are some drivers and applications missing for 64bit, and it will not change your linux experience if you install the 32bit version
[08:39] <ladydoor> !1337
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1337 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <Neo8750> is the video useing mp3 codecs or something of the sort??
[08:39] <jazzrocker> Xardas, i don't know man... you probably *think* it's black/brown but really it's a slight shade of green
[08:39] <ladydoor> !leet
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about leet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <bam_> it should really be straight forward, but it just doesnt seem to want to. could you guys take a look at my xorg.conf and tell me if I have thing wrong?
[08:39] <sinisterr> eyequeue: thanks
[08:39] <gemeindeba> Farchord, i am using 32bit and i have no problems, seems the way to go...
[08:39] <Farchord> Aiite, coo, then ill download the x86 version
[08:39] <jazzrocker> Xardas, change your bg and see if pypanel changes it's "green-ness"
[08:39] <xipietotec> good question...hold on
[08:39] <nownott> ok has anyone ever seen this error /bin/sh: cant access tty job control turned off, or know how to fix this, my comp wont boot
[08:39] <Farchord> thanks guys :)
[08:39] <LinuxHelp> !31337
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 31337 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <ladydoor> maxBUTTON: please don't use 1337. it's annoying
[08:39] <Xardas> ok
[08:39] <eyequeue> Farchord, "some day" the 64 bot version will be production-ready, might be a way to phrase it
[08:40] <maxBUTTON> k anyone know how to get the dialog command working in bash
[08:40] <gemeindeba> bam_, what exactly is your problem?
[08:40] <Deeah> I installed stellarium, and it went to Applications/Education, it's pretty great. Are there any other adult education related programs in Ubuntu like this?
[08:40] <jazzrocker> maxBUTTON, install dialog?
[08:40] <scifi> jazzrocker: any ideas m8 ?
[08:40] <eyequeue> sinisterr, np
[08:40] <jazzrocker> scifi, what now?
[08:40] <Farchord> eyequeue: Yeah I'm having an odd problem in Windows with my machine.... trying linux will also help me seeing if it's the card or not....
[08:40] <jazzrocker> scifi, i use vim
[08:40] <scifi> jazzrocker: scite looks good. but do u know if its possible to insert several text files into one ?
[08:40] <jazzrocker> scifi, ask in #scite
[08:40] <scifi> ok sorry
[08:40] <xipietotec> 82852/855GM
[08:40] <Farchord> Sometimes, after playing games for a short while, my computer starts to studder really bad......
[08:40] <Farchord> and I'm about sick of this problem
[08:40] <jazzrocker> scifi, i could think of many ways to do that with many other tools than SciTE so i don't really care
[08:41] <jazzrocker> scifi, what's wrong with copy/paste ?
[08:41] <bam_> my problem is that X doesnt give me the option of changing my resolution over the 1024x768
[08:41] <marcel__> i got a movie whit the audio codec mp3 installed all the gstreamers but still no audio
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Farchord: Overheating?
[08:41] <orcdestroyer> hello... I have some musics in my CD and some files are .m4a how can I listen they using the xmms player?
[08:41] <bam_> thats is my problem, in short.
[08:41] <orcdestroyer> any ideas?
[08:41] <scifi> jazzrockers: because its 120 seperate text files
[08:41] <Farchord> Jack_Sparrow: Nope checked that. The CPU doesn't go over 50C.
[08:41] <anon32> orcdestroyer: are they drmed?
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Farchord: Just a thought
[08:42] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > orcdestroyer
[08:42] <Ecnassianer> marcel__, How did you install mp3 support?
[08:42] <gemeindeba> bam_, just so that we are clear about that: the 855 uses shared memory (from your ram)? have you allocated a specific amount of videoram in your bios?
[08:42] <maxBUTTON> there is no dialog in the repositories
[08:42] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > Ecnassianer
[08:42] <marcel__> Ecnassianer: whit synacptic
[08:42] <alex222> anyone know why this happens ~ http://pastebin.ca/165299
[08:42] <xipietotec> Jack_sparrow It says I'm using 82852/855GM
[08:42] <Farchord> mmm..... Do I download the Desktop version or Alternate.... I tried the Desktop with my old PC, but I was stuck in 640x480.... couldn't click the install buttons <.<
[08:42] <Farchord> This comp has an nvidia 7600gt card
[08:42] <finalbeta> No package 'glib-2.0' found << Can't find it using apt-cache search, can somone tell me what I need to install?
[08:43] <eyequeue> Farchord, alternate doesn't have the bug
[08:43] <Farchord> okay ty
[08:43] <Ecnassianer> marcel__, I used EasyUbuntu and it works fine for me. I'm not sure what will happen now that you've installed it with synaptic, but... well, yeah, might be god to know.
[08:43] <bam_> I dont really know that....should I?
[08:43] <mike___> hey, can i have soem help with a terminal command?
[08:43] <bam_> and how much should I allocate?
[08:43] <marcel__> Ecnassianer: hm weird..
[08:43] <eyequeue> Farchord, 6.06.1 should have fixed the bug too
[08:43] <xipietotec> I know specifically I have the Intel Extreme Graphics II chipset
[08:43] <Farchord> o ok
[08:43] <bam_> (and why isent any of this in any of the guide!!!???)
[08:43] <KrakensDen> is security.ubuntu.com down or is it just me?
[08:43] <eyequeue> !easyubuntu > marcel__
 which guide did you use when you installed xgl/compiz ?
[08:44] <gemeindeba> bam_, what is the resolution you are trying to achieve? what is the mobo brand, anyway?
[08:44] <eyequeue> marcel__, note the "at your own risk"
[08:44] <bam_> mobo?
[08:44] <finalbeta> No package 'glib-2.0' found << Can't find it using apt-cache search, can somone tell me what I need to install?
[08:44] <KrakensDen> gemeindeba, intel, almost certainly
[08:44] <bam_> 1280x1024
[08:44] <bam_> intel,yes
[08:44] <KrakensDen> gemeindeba, I don't think anyone else uses their onboard cards
[08:44] <alex222> Paddy_EIRE, http://justpretending.net/wp/2006/08/14/new-and-improved-enable-xglcompiz-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake/
[08:44] <mike___> need help with the command rmdir
[08:44] <eyequeue> mike___, what about it?
[08:44] <gemeindeba> bam_, KrakensDen is probably right. asus used them in the past, though
[08:44] <maxBUTTON> sudo rm [file] 
[08:45] <eyequeue> rmdir (1)            - remove empty directories
[08:45] <eyequeue> rmdir (1posix)       - remove directories
[08:45] <eyequeue> rmdir (3posix)       - remove a directory
[08:45] <eyequeue> rmdir (2)            - delete a directory
[08:45] <maxBUTTON> sudo rm -rf *
[08:45] <bam_> I am trying to get a resolution of 1280x1024
[08:45] <eyequeue> oy!
[08:45] <Farchord> hahaha.... Downloading http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/iso/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso @ 1200k/s :D
[08:45] <gemeindeba> bam_, in your xorg.conf, do you have any resolutions higher then 1024 in there ?
[08:45] <KrakensDen> bam_, look into 915resolution
[08:45] <kinjo> hey any1 kon hw i can install cedega???
[08:45] <bam_> ofcourse.
[08:45] <mike___> eyequeue:  when i use the command rmdir it says like "directory not empty"
[08:46] <KrakensDen> bam_, there are some problems with bios settings and intel cards
[08:46] <jazzrocker> kinjo, yes we do
[08:46] <arvind_> how to force reinstall a pkg
[08:46] <KrakensDen> bam_, so you may need that program to get whatever resolution you want
[08:46] <kinjo> could u tell me hw....
[08:46] <KrakensDen> bam_, it's in the repositories
[08:46] <eyequeue> mike___, right, it's only for empty directories---<eyequeue> rmdir (1)            - remove empty directories
[08:46] <arvind_> can i know the comm,and of the same please
 Im not sure how to fix your prob but i used --> http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 and it worked :) ...... you also may want to ask on #ubuntu-xgl
[08:46] <yugge> Hey guys. My DHCP settings are resetting when I restart my computer. I've been using Kcontrol.
[08:46] <Jack_Sparrow> xipietotec: I dont know that you will do any better with that card
[08:46] <KrakensDen> bam_, so 'sudo apt-get install 915resolution' should work
[08:46] <Ecnassianer> kinjo, Have you tried apt-get install cedega?
[08:46] <jazzrocker> kinjo, nope... but the manual for installing cedega which is probably located at http://transgaming.com/ will tell you
[08:46] <BHSPitLappy> kinjo, anyone know how you can type without mashing on the keyboard
[08:46] <yugge> Where would I change it otherwise?
[08:46] <mike___> eyequeue:  whats teh difference between removeing and deleting a directory
[08:46] <bam_> KrankensDen,I have and I have installed it and it is working. But I havent really looked at the the videoram bios as gemeindeba said.
[08:46] <jazzrocker> Ecnassianer, uhhh, cedega costs $$$ so i doubt it's in the repos
[08:46] <eyequeue> mike___, you either empty the files out first (safest) or use -r with rm
[08:46] <BonBonTheJon> how do I install drivers for a network card that is recognized by lspci
[08:47] <eyequeue> mike___, none
[08:47] <Ecnassianer> jazzrocker, I did not know that. :)
[08:47] <jazzrocker> Ecnassianer, do you even know what cedega is?
[08:47] <Ecnassianer> My knowledge of the subject is depleted. :)
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> BonBonTheJon: What network car/chipset
[08:47] <mike___> eyequeue:  so what woudl the command be if i wanted to get rid of a directory with files in it? -rmdire?
[08:47] <arvind_> i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that
[08:47] <[Wiebel] > !edgy
[08:47] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:47] <mike___> without the e
[08:47] <eyequeue> mike___, rm -r /the/dir/you/want/gone/
[08:47] <kinjo> wer can i learn hw to use apt-get
[08:47] <wubrgamer>  hey guys, is there any way that i can have a bash script run as root during boot with no user interaction ?
[08:47] <KrakensDen> bam_, ok. Well, the other issue is that ubuntu doesn't come with any good gui xorg.conf modifiers
[08:47] <bam_> I will try to look at my motherboard bios and see what I can do, but gemeindeba, do you have any suggestion onto how much I should allocat?
[08:47] <jazzrocker> Ecnassianer, it's usually better if the ignorant do not lead the blind
[08:47] <eyequeue> kinjo, "man apt-get"
[08:47] <mike___> eyequeue:  ok thnaks
[08:47] <KrakensDen> bam_, try the max
[08:48] <bam_> ok
[08:48] <KrakensDen> bam_, which should just be ~4 megs
[08:48] <arvind_> i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that
[08:48] <bam_> I will be back shortly
[08:48] <eyequeue> mike___, or else, of course, rm the files from it, then rmdir it :)
[08:48] <jazzrocker> kinjo, cedega, as i said, is not in the repos (at least i doubt it)
[08:48] <BonBonTheJon> jack: pcnet32
[08:48] <jazzrocker> !cedega
[08:48] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:48] <jazzrocker> !cedega > kinjo
[08:48] <hc> hi again
[08:48] <Ecnassianer> jazzrocker, Nobody was answering his question, don't curse me for offering a suggestion.
[08:48] <maxBUTTON> M4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?
[08:48] <arvind_> nobody to help me out :(
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Is Gnome 2.16 installable in Dapper
[08:48] <anon32> !cedega
[08:48] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:49] <gemeindeba> bam_, that depends on the maximum resolution you are trying to achieve, as well as the colordepth. i think if you would allocate a minimum of 64 mbyte you would be on the safe side. personally i wouldn't use less in any case. also depends on how much memory you have available
[08:49] <jazzrocker> Ecnassianer, actually... i was answering his question
[08:49] <hc> !wpa
[08:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:49] <anon32> cedega isn't free in either sense of the word is it/
[08:49] <yugge> Can anyone help me?`Where would I change the DHCP settings?
[08:49] <maxBUTTON> M4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?
[08:49] <jazzrocker> Ecnassianer, it's probably better for you to not give an answer than give a *wrong* answer
[08:49] <Ecnassianer> jazzrocker, Sorry, I didn't see it.
[08:49] <marcel__> eyequeue: thanks installing now
[08:49] <arvind_> yugge check the networking in system administration
[08:49] <Ecnassianer> I didn'
[08:49] <Ecnassianer> I didn't give an answer, I asked a question.
[08:49] <eyequeue> marcel__, np
[08:49] <Ecnassianer> Lets just forget about it.
[08:50] <arvind_> i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that
[08:50] <maxBUTTON> M4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?
[08:50] <hc> !network-manager
[08:50] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[08:50] <arvind_> i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that... what would be apt-get command for that
[08:50] <eyequeue> maxBUTTON, please stop
[08:50] <maxBUTTON> HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M SOOOOO 1337
[08:50] <maxBUTTON> M4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?
[08:50] <anon32> arvind_ apt-get install apache?
[08:50] <yugge> arvind_: It keeps reseting
[08:50] <anon32> someone kickban maxbutton
[08:50] <orcdestroyer> how can I convert some m4a file to mp3 file ?
[08:51] <kinjo> jazzroker:wat does respo mean i am new to linux this is my first disrto ....
[08:51] <BonBonTheJon> where can I find drivers for a pcnet32 card
[08:51] <arvind_> anon32: it wont install i want to force reinstall
[08:51] <maxBUTTON> NOOBZ NOOBZ I'M STILLL HERE
[08:51] <maxBUTTON> M4><8u770|\| |\|33|)5 `/0ur |-|31|>. | 4M 53r||0u51`/ 57u(|<. 4|\|41 |-|ur75 M3. 4|\|`/0|\|3 |-|4\/3 7||>5?
[08:51] <hc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[08:51] <TEN> Still wondering why Xubuntu starts with resolutions not even present in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... I found this: http://slax.linux-live.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4366#entry23726 Commenting out dcc in that file had no effect, but could there be a similar problem of xorg.conf being overridden in Xubuntu 6.06.1?
[08:51] <hc> why doesn't this work?
[08:51] <xipietotec> okay, what does 915resolution install itself as?
[08:51] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone get rid of this twat
[08:51] <Ecnassianer> I have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?
[08:51] <anon32> !ops
[08:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:51] <maxBUTTON> because max button is 1337
 no because maxbutton needs to get a life
[08:52] <wubrgamer>  hey guys, is there any way that i can have a bash script run every boot up ?
[08:52] <jazzrocker> wubrgamer, yes there is
[08:52] <Jack_Sparrow> BonBonTheJon: No idea, I dont see any info on that card...
[08:52] <arvind_> i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that... what would be apt-get command for that
[08:52] <hc> i have a problem with WPA and a Airlink101 AWLL3026 Wireless USB-card
[08:52] <xipietotec> Anyone? what does 915resolution install itself as?
[08:53] <BonBonTheJon> jack: previous kubuntu worked, now ubuntu server didn't set it up
[08:53] <wubrgamer> how ?
 Is gnome to be updated to new version on dapper or is this being left until edgy?
[08:54] <Seveas> Paddy_EIRE, it'll not be updated to .16
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: No idea..
[08:54] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[08:54] <hc> i use WPA, but i can only choose between 3 different WEP-crypts when i try to connect
[08:54] <wubrgamer> how do i have a script run every boot ?
[08:54] <AnAnt> how can I print several pages on a single paper in linux ? is it possible ?
[08:55] <Keps> wubrgamer: what command do you need to be executed?
 why? is it just because edgy is nearing completion
[08:55] <wubrgamer> a bunch
[08:55] <hc> !init.d
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <Seveas> Paddy_EIRE, because dapper gets no new versions
[08:55] <Seveas> it's stable
[08:55] <Keps> wubrgamer: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1460380#post1460380
[08:56] <beerfan> how can I reinstall the default dapper madwifi drivers?
 oh yeah i suppose, i wouldnt want to loose my nice stable setup right now anyway
[08:56] <Ecnassianer> I have my Ubuntu box setup to do ipmasq to my windows box. Right now I have it working. If I restart my computer it stops working until I run Firestarter again. Does anybody know how I can make the ipmasq work without running firestarter every time I restart?
[08:56] <Keps> wubrgamer: replace sterling with whatever you want, and replace the 'xmodmap......' line with the command you need to be executed
[08:56] <wubrgamer> sterling ?
 is there documentation anywhere on how things like that are deemed stable and ready for our use
[08:56] <lakcaj> Hi.  Is there a way to use the ubuntu install CD and install without booting to a live desktop?  Ie - I don't have enough ram, and want to install using an ncurses interface or something like that.
[08:57] <ladydoor> lakcaj: try the alternate install cd
[08:57] <ajopaul> apart from evolution which other MUA can talk to MS exchange server??
[08:57] <Crippy-Boy> lakcaj: use the alternate cd
[08:57] <wubrgamer> i dont get it
[08:57] <lakcaj> ladydoor, Crippy-Boy: thanks
[08:57] <hc> lakcaj: try the alternate install cd.
[08:57] <Keps> wubrgamer: what dont you get?
[08:57] <gemeindeba> lakcaj, you need to download the alternate installation cd
[08:57] <Keps> wait
[08:57] <bam_> nope. Apparently,my bios does not have a section where I could set the video ram allocation. I am sitting at the Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook E.
[08:57] <wubrgamer> it needs to be system wide
[08:57] <beerfan> I tried installing madwifi-ng but it doesn't work. How can I reinstall the old madwifi drivers? what package?
[08:57] <bam_> so maybe that is my problem.
[08:57] <orcdestroyer> how can I cancel some download using terminal??
[08:58] <tjb891> can anyone tell me how to generate and see every webpage and file hosted on a website?(preferable with firefox)
[08:58] <wubrgamer> would rc.local work ?
 so Gnome 2.14.3 is the most stable version yet?
[08:58] <hc> orcdestroyer: CTRL + C
[08:58] <someusernoob> wubrgames: you can put that script in every sessions menu on every account
[08:58] <xipietotec> wtf? I can't log into root now?
[08:58] <Tamale> any idea if swing is included with the standard 1.4 jdk ubuntu package?   I just tried to compile the hello world swing java program and it couldn't seem to find the swing libraries
[08:58] <orcdestroyer> hc exist some command line?
[08:58] <hennuska> Hello.
[08:59] <Ecnassianer> orcdestroyer, What program are you using to download?
[08:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !stable
[08:59] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:59] <bam_> why is heaven so as to show me a glimps of what joy would be like, but then to snatch it away from me before the sweet odor of freedom would reach me!!!???
[08:59] <Vegeta> When you install a "foreign" software on LInux (like Maple), won't there be an icon for that software, like the shortcut icons have for some softwares in Windows?
[08:59] <hc> orcdestroyer: if you're using wget you can cancler it
[08:59] <hc> orcdestroyer: alternative, kill it
[08:59] <AnAnt> how can I print several pages on a single paper in linux ?
[08:59] <bam_> anyone have any other suggestion?
[08:59] <orcdestroyer> Ecnassianer k3b
[08:59] <Tamale> Vegeta: Normally it at least makes a binary that's in your path
[08:59] <realist> AnAnt: man lp ?
[09:00] <Tamale> Vegeta: so you can at least just type the name of the program from a console and start the app
[09:00] <AnAnt> realist: did that, found nothing
[09:00] <cool_nick> how am i supposed to clear the terminal history?
[09:00] <Vegeta> Tamale: So there won't be such thing as an icon. Because when you install package softwares, there are icons.
[09:01] <odla> cool_nick: type clear?
[09:01] <someusernoob> cool_nick: history -c
[09:01] <Tamale> Vegeta: There
[09:01] <odla> is sharpmusique still be developing?
[09:01] <ladydoor> Vegeta: you could always make a launcher that would do the command wine /path/to/windoze/binary.exe
[09:01] <Tamale> Vegeta: If there isn't icons, you can always make one
[09:01] <odla> developed
[09:01] <xipietotec> okay...I've logged into su before, but now it's not recognizing my password
[09:01] <ladydoor> Vegeta: and give it whatever icon you wanted
[09:01] <ladydoor> xipietotec: to su you need to use root's password, not yours
[09:01] <Tamale> Vegeta:  If they don't include any icons at all it's probably just because they don't want to make different packages for different desktops
[09:01] <xipietotec> schiesse. I think I forgot it
[09:02] <cool_nick> someusernoob: thanks
[09:02] <Ecnassianer> orcdestroyer, k3b is CD burning software right? I don't understand how you're using that to download.
[09:02] <Tamale> is there a java channel on freenode?  I tried to join #java but it didn't work
[09:02] <someusernoob> cool_nick: yw
[09:02] <hc> i use WPA, but i can only choose between 3 different WEP-crypts when i try to connect to my network. any ideas?
[09:02] <hc> it's a Airlink101 AWLL3026 card
[09:02] <Vegeta> Tamale: Now I'm not sure whether we're talking about the same term (icon)... :S
[09:02] <Tamale> Vegeta:  I meant shortcut, sorry.
[09:02] <thinkl> I just upgraded my laptop from dapper->edgy and now my screen isn't turning back on after sleep. Is there a command I can run that will bring the screen back (I'm logged in over ssh).
[09:02] <kinjo> can i install .deb in ubuntu??
[09:02] <hc> ubuntu found the drivers when i installed, so it worked right out of the box
[09:03] <odla> kinjo: yup ... sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[09:03] <xipietotec> okay, ladydoor how could I change the root password without knowing what the hell it is
[09:03] <Tamale> xipietotec: sudo
[09:03] <ladydoor> xipietotec: sudo passwd root
[09:03] <someusernoob> kinjo: or double click them :D
[09:03] <Vegeta> Tamale: Well the shortcut doesn't matter, I can easly create that manually, I was only talking about creating an icon for the shortcut.
[09:04] <Munchkinguy> I'm trying to hide some files in the root directory. I know you're supposed to create a file called ".hidden", but I'm not sure what to do from there.
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> thinkl: #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <Tamale> Vegeta:  Ok, yah, I gotcha.  If you want to MAKE an icon, I'd just take a screenshot of the windows icon and turn that into a png
[09:04] <xipietotec> thankye :)
[09:04] <Frederick> hi folks is libmagick9 the lib for imagemagick on ubuntu?
[09:04] <amgad> thinkl, try #xset dpms force on
[09:04] <ofn> how can i record a video of my desktop?
[09:04] <Munchkinguy> I tried putting the location of the folders I wanted to hide, but it didn't work.
[09:04] <hc> i use WPA, but i can only choose between 3 different WEP-crypts when i try to connect to my network. any ideas?
[09:04] <hc> it's a Airlink101 AWLL3026 card
[09:04] <hc> ubuntu found the drivers when i installed, so it worked right out of the box
[09:04] <kinjo> when i double click on  it i get "archive not supported"
[09:05] <Ecnassianer> Munchkinguy, I think you just need to put a . in front of the folder you want to hide
[09:05] <hc> any ideas?
[09:05] <kinjo> when i double click on  .deb package it i get "archive not supported"
[09:05] <Ecnassianer> Munchkinguy, Thats the way it works in my home directory
[09:05] <amgad> thinkl, first #export $DISPLAY = 'localhost:0.0'
[09:05] <sethk> Munchkinguy, you can create a _directory_ called .hidden, and move the files into it
[09:05] <sethk> Munchkinguy, or, you can change the name of the files from whatever to .whatever
[09:05] <thinkl> amgad: I was just figuring out I'd have to switch the DISPLAY :)
[09:05] <sethk> Munchkinguy, change the name of each file, that is.
[09:05] <sethk> Munchkinguy, by the way, they aren't in any meaningful sense hidden
[09:05] <someusernoob> kinjo: what version of ubuntu are u running?
[09:05] <sethk> Munchkinguy, that just don't show up with the default behavior of ls
[09:06] <overmind> exit
[09:06] <overmind> ejeje
[09:06] <thinkl> amgad: Alas, doesn't seem to work.
[09:06] <Munchkinguy> so if I change "bin" to ".bin" it won't wreck the computer?
[09:06] <sethk> Munchkinguy, are you talking about the /bin directory?
[09:06] <arvind_> i want to forcereinstall apache2 how can i do that... what would be apt-get command for that
[09:07] <arvind_> how can i reinstall a pkg without uninstalling it
[09:07] <Munchkinguy> ofn: see http://osvids.com/screencap/screencap.html
[09:07] <kinjo> supernoob: think its 6.06 any palce wer i can verify that??
[09:07] <AndrewCaul> Hi.
[09:07] <sethk> arvind_, apt-get install --reinstall
[09:07] <amgad> thinkl, sorry, didnt use edgy yet
[09:07] <arvind_> ok will try that
[09:07] <Munchkinguy> sethk: yes
[09:07] <sethk> Munchkinguy, no, you cannot change /bin to /.bin
[09:08] <odla> kinjo: system -> about Ubuntu
[09:08] <sethk> Munchkinguy, well, you can, but all sorts of stuff will stop working.
[09:08] <Munchkinguy> So what do I do?
[09:08] <sethk> Munchkinguy, I don't think you really want to hide files, I think you want to adjust permissions
[09:08] <thinkl> amgad: no problem. I knew I was taking a risk with the upgrade :)
 thanks
[09:08] <sethk> Munchkinguy, specifically what are you trying to accomplish by rename /bin?
[09:08] <lukus001> I cant seen to get my dvd to play in anything (64bit os)
[09:09] <AnAnt> how can I print several pages on a single paper in linux ?
[09:09] <amgad> thinkl, why don't you turn the power saving off till you figure it out, its not a big deal
 use open office
[09:09] <lukus001> what do i need to play dvds
[09:09] <Munchkinguy> sethk: I just don't want to see folders that I don't use (bin, opt, proc). If I ever use them, it will be in the terminal.
[09:09] <sethk> AnAnt, you can print two per page
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd > lukus001
[09:09] <sethk> Munchkinguy, you can do this, then:    chmod o-r /bin
[09:09] <amgad> thinkl, and a very commong problem among laptops, even on stable versions
[09:09] <ladydoor> Munchkinguy: just don't go to /?
[09:09] <AnAnt> sethk: on the same side of the paper ?
[09:09] <sethk> Munchkinguy, and chmod o-x /bin
[09:10] <thinkl> amgad: Right -- I just thought if I could recover from the problem without a reboot it would make fixing it much easier since I could try configurations out more quickly.
[09:10] <Munchkinguy> ok, thank you
[09:10] <sethk> Munchkinguy, that removes the read and directory search permissions on /bin.
[09:10] <sethk> Munchkinguy, assuming none of those users are a member of the group "root"
[09:10] <LeeJunFan> Apparently one needs to add sources for a dist in order to install packages from it? ie - apt-get install debootstrap/edgy ?
[09:10] <lukus001> jack_sparrow Ive already been to that page ubotu sent me but my player says i might not have permission?
[09:10] <sethk> Munchkinguy, which they won't be unless you were to change their groups intentionally
[09:11] <thinkl> amgad: btw, this is something that has worked since hoary on this model, so hopefully I can find what's causing the regression and report the bug. Although this is common, it's also a major bug worth getting fixed :)
[09:11] <Munchkinguy> right
[09:11] <BlindSpot> I followed the instructions to install the ATI driver but now ubuntu wont load, it says 'no screens' bla bla
[09:11] <Jeandre> Looking for cheapy laptop that'll be able to handle a couple of years' worth of new Ubuntu versions, maybe the next LTS. Would an Athlon XP-2600+ be okay or should I eat ramen for a year and get a Pentium-M 1.73?
[09:11] <AndrewCaul> What's the harm in seeing /bin and such?
[09:11] <jazzrocker> lukus001, you need to install codecs usually, and i think you may need to add your user to the optical group or something similar
[09:12] <AndrewCaul> You usually don't look at / unless there's something you want to change anyway.
[09:12] <BlindSpot> ANYONE?
[09:12] <amgad> thinkl, that's the spirit :)
[09:12] <kinjo> hey is ter any application which i can run to show wat tehupload and download speed of my connection is???
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> BlindSpot: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:13] <lukus001> jazzrocker, I dont know what codecs i need to add to get it to work, frm what im aware ive installed all i can see.... how to i add my user to the optical group?
[09:13] <jazzrocker> lukus001, man adduser
[09:13] <Munchkinguy> ofn: actually, a better how-to can be found at http://www.misterhowto.com/index.php?category=Computers&subcategory=Video&article=make_a_screencast_with_linux
[09:13] <jazzrocker> lukus001, i don't know if it's the optical group you need
[09:13] <jazzrocker> lukus001, i don't know if that's an ubuntu thing or not... that might be from my fedora days
[09:13] <kinjo> hey is ter any application which i can run to show wat tehupload and download speed of my connection is?
[09:13] <kinjo> any1..
[09:14] <lukus001> jazzrocker ah ok - i never had to do it before in hoary so i doubt i need to then
[09:14] <someusernoob> BlindSpot: any specific errors? Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:14] <amgad> kinjo, try bwm-ng
[09:14] <BlindSpot> Dapper
[09:15] <ofn> Munchkinguy> thanks
[09:15] <BlindSpot> thanks
[09:15] <Bot_Builder> If I've got the K7 kernel, and it works fine, can i remove linux-image-386?
[09:15] <Madeye> guys, is there ubuntu-server wiki ?
[09:15] <Munchkinguy> sethk: it is true that the *contents* of /bin cannot be seen, but the folder itself is still visible in Nautilus.
[09:15] <Bot_Builder> I've messed up my ubuntu with package stuff before and i don't want to do it again
[09:16] <Bot_Builder> the main problem is it wants to remove linux-386, and there is no linux-k7
[09:16] <finalbeta> Jeez, trying to compile sensors-applet, because the repo version is ancient, but it has so many dependancies, and many are unavailable. Anyone know a repo that would hold a proper version?
[09:16] <sethk> Munchkinguy, that's true.  we could remove directory search permissions from /, but that would block everything in /, probably not what you need to do.
[09:16] <lotusleaf> Bot_Builder: sure, but if something should ever go wrong with your current kernel in upgrading or whatever, then you have nothing to revert to do you ;)
[09:16] <Bot_Builder> actually, i should probably leave it in case i want to boot the disk from a regular comp
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, there's no real reason you need to remove it
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> lotusleaf: that too :)
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, just change grub not to use it
[09:17] <sethk> Munchkinguy, seeing /bin is not a security issue in and of itself
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> well, i was annoiyed with the grub clutter :P
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> ohh
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, comment it out
[09:17] <Munchkinguy> sethk: but for example, the folder "root" is not visible
[09:17] <voicu> Hi, does anyone know a lightweight C/C++ IDE (for KDE if possible)?
[09:17] <jazzrocker> Bot_Builder, that's kind of a silly thing to be annoyed with
[09:17] <Bot_Builder> probably
[09:17] <Munchkinguy> by default
[09:17] <jazzrocker> voicu, yeah, gvim
[09:18] <sethk> Munchkinguy, it is for me.   do this:    ls -ld /root    and tell me what it says
[09:18] <voicu> thanks
[09:18] <Bot_Builder> but you can't press 'up' to get to the end of the list (windows)
[09:18] <mcphail> voicu: IDEs are not lightweight by definition. Use vim.
[09:18] <Munchkinguy> oh, never mind. It is.
[09:18] <Bot_Builder> so i have to hit down a bunch to get to it
[09:18] <jazzrocker> voicu, mcphail++
[09:19] <voicu> mcphail, lightweight related to KDevelop or Anjuta which are too 'enterprisey' for my needs :D
[09:19] <iceman> anyone got any good screenshots of glx desktop
[09:19] <ladydoor> Munchkinguy: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:19] <sethk> Munchkinguy, paste the output of:     ls -ld /bin
[09:19] <Munchkinguy> hide some folders for asthetic reasons
[09:19] <jbrich> I am having a problem with my Multimedia- it is constantly switching on and off, and I am failing to understand why it won't turn back on... Does anyone have any ideas?
[09:19] <lotusleaf> iceman: you mean xgl?
[09:20] <ladydoor> Munchkinguy: ok...why do you need to hang out in / anyway?
[09:20] <sethk> ladydoor, for some reason he wants non-root users to not see the /bin directory, rather than just not being able to enter the bin directory
[09:20] <ladydoor> sethk: ah. wait, i can enter /bin
[09:20] <ladydoor> sethk: without being root. ...?
[09:20] <iceman> lotusleaf yea my bag ;( lol
[09:20] <sethk> ladydoor, we changed his permissions on /bin to prevent that
[09:20] <voicu> how about a console IDE? :P
[09:21] <ladydoor> sethk: oh, i see
[09:21] <jazzrocker> voicu, vim instead of gvim
[09:21] <ladydoor> voicu: emacs?
[09:21] <sethk> ladydoor, so that works, but he wants /bin to not show up.
[09:21] <Jeandre> Looking for cheapy laptop that'll be able to handle a couple of years' worth of new Ubuntu versions, maybe the next LTS (before installing a lite distro). Would an Athlon XP-2600+ be okay or should I eat ramen for a year and get a Pentium-M 1.73?
[09:21] <lotusleaf> iceman: youtube has a number of xgl+ubuntu videos if you'd like more than screenshots, where screenshots are concerned the ubuntuforums has some links, otherwise you can google xgl ubuntu screenshots
[09:21] <mcphail> voicu: the only "advantage" i can see of kdevelop or anjuta is that they manage your makefiles. Vim is lovely; others will recommend emacs
[09:21] <jazzrocker> ladydoor, voicu: emacs is NOT lightweight
[09:21] <ladydoor> sethk: ah. i would just suggest making shortcuts to the folders in / that he actually *does* go to
[09:21] <sethk> ladydoor, Munchkinguy we could remove x permission on /, and add x permission on the subdirectories he needs, but it hardly sweems worth the effort.
[09:21] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: on a modern computer it is.
[09:21] <voicu> ok, thanks all
[09:21] <voicu> bye
[09:21] <jazzrocker> no. it's not. it's bloated as all heck.
[09:22] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[09:22] <kinjo> ok thx guys fr helping me.....
[09:22] <mcphail> jazzrocker: there are stripped down versions, aren't there (?zile)
[09:22] <ladydoor> sethk: and that way he wouldn't need to *go* to /
[09:22] <Jeandre> 6.06. DVD watching (xine) is being interrupted by the screensaver - where's the saver's settings? Wasn't a problem with 5.10.
[09:22] <ladydoor> sethk: or look at the offending folders
[09:22] <iceman> i downloaded kororaa Linux to see wat the hype is about on xgl, to bad the project got closed, cant get the live cd anylonger :(
[09:22] <lotusleaf> Jeandre: try kaffeine when watching videos it simulates keypresses without disabling screensaver otherwise
[09:23] <sethk> ladydoor, yes, that's true
[09:23] <jazzrocker> mcphail, stripped down emacs is no longer emacs
[09:23] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone use a sony minidisc player in ubuntu or know what a good replacement for netmd or sonicstage is
[09:23] <jazzrocker> mcphail, and yes, i'm aware of the "light" versions of emacs
[09:23] <Munchkinguy> sethk: I probably isn't worth the effort. It's just that for some people, assorted three-letter folders that they probably wouldn't use, are kidn of daunting
[09:23] <Jeandre> Thanks lotusleaf.
[09:23] <mcphail> jazzrocker: i'll take your word. I never enjoyed emacs enough to appreciate its depths
[09:23] <lotusleaf> Jeandre: yw
[09:24] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i used emacs for 5 years before switching to vim and i'll never go back
[09:24] <sethk> Munchkinguy, ladydoor's suggestion would work, but as you said probably not worth the effotrt
[09:24] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[09:24] <jazzrocker> mcphail, i in fact *tried* to go back to emacs about a year ago but the state of things was still JUST like it was when and why i left
[09:24] <sethk> mcphail, there are certain things emacs can do that vim cannot.  there is no need to use the same editor all the time, you can use them as appropriate.
[09:24] <Munchkinguy> GNOME should have some sort of "hide file" in the property diologue
[09:24] <jazzrocker> emacs os forever!
[09:25] <ladydoor> i've created a monster!
[09:25] <sethk> Munchkinguy, wouldn't be gnome, it would be nautilus
[09:25] <toxic__> Is it possible in vim, to have a short command output current line in bold ?
[09:25] <mcphail> sethk: fair enough. I'm no power user
[09:25] <erremontzo> hi boys !!!
[09:25] <jazzrocker> Munchkinguy, hidden files start with .
[09:25] <ladydoor> !offtopic
[09:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:25] <mc__> it is even possible to run vim in emacs
[09:25] <jazzrocker> toxic__, ask #vim
[09:25] <mc__> emacs is the most superior editor out there...
[09:25] <jazzrocker> mc__, now *that* would be just stupid
[09:25] <Munchkinguy> sethk: but they make nautiuls, don't they?
[09:25] <mc__> jazzrocker: why?
[09:25] <mephis1987> hello , is java netbean available for ubuntu ?
[09:25] <swift777> Any of you guys using Kubuntu (KDE) ?
[09:25] <ladydoor> i've created a monster! i'm sorry, but could this discussion be relocated to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:25] <mephis1987> netbeans
[09:25] <sethk> Munchkinguy, sure, I was pointing out what level the change would be required in
[09:26] <davin> Is it possible to copy / for backup?
[09:26] <mephis1987> !netbeans
[09:26] <jbrich> switf777, I do, what about it?
[09:26] <mc__> jazzrocker: maybe you want to use vim as your editor and emacs as your os
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <sethk> Munchkinguy, also there are browsing programs gnome knows nothing about.
[09:26] <Lynoure> ladydoor: yes, but more on #kubuntu
[09:26] <lotusleaf> swift777: #kubuntu
[09:26] <jazzrocker> mc__, no one should use emacs as their OS... that's why we have Ubuntu
[09:26] <odla> wow firefox crashes a ton on me in dapper
[09:26] <swift777> I messed by Linux up last time i tried to install/update it
[09:26] <mcphail> yep - should be in offtopic
[09:26] <ladydoor> Lynoure: what're you talking about?
[09:26] <odla> it'll start loading a site and then take forever and crash
[09:26] <sethk> mc__, for some things, nothing can touch emacs.
[09:26] <mc__> jazzrocker: i use both
[09:26] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:27] <Lynoure> ladydoor: I guess I but the wrong nick. didn't talk hell
[09:27] <mc__> sethk: for lisp programming is emacs the very best
have never had this problem with firefox on ubuntu although it crashed randomly and without explanation on Mandrake 10.1
[09:27] <superjew9020> anyone here ever hear of alltray
[09:27] <sethk> mc__, indeed.
[09:27] <dj_baggio> !ftp
[09:27] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[09:27] <someusernoob> superjew9020: i did
[09:27] <superjew9020> do u have it
[09:28] <jbrich> Anyone know anything about multimedia malfunctions?
[09:28] <swift777> Hey can anyone tell me what is better for Steam emulation Wine or Winex?
[09:28] <jazzrocker> swift777, probably cedega is better
[09:28] <superjew9020> hellz yea
[09:28] <swift777> ok thanks ill look for it now
[09:28] <someusernoob> superjew9020: i got the .deb i think, but not installed
[09:28] <ladydoor> Lynoure: errrr...ok?
[09:28] <mc__> swift777: WineX is now named Cedega
[09:28] <jazzrocker> !cedega > swift777
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know what i should use for my minidisc player in ubuntu???
[09:28] <swift777> oh right (Lol)
[09:28] <ompaul> mc__ wrong
[09:28] <superjew9020> i installed it but i dont no wat to do now
[09:28] <lotusleaf> swift777: you can always ask in #cedega or #winehq
[09:28] <superjew9020> to run it
[09:28] <wims> minidisk player ?
[09:28] <wims> errr
[09:29] <mcphail> ompaul: fair enough, but it started in reply to a genuine support question
[09:29] <wims> is that a trick question?
[09:29] <odla> anyone know if sharpmusique is still being developed and maintained?
[09:29] <znh> Hello. I'd like to know if my harddisk is healty. Are there applications that can check this? Please let me know.
[09:29] <thinkl> amgad: Well, setting POST_VIDEO=true in /etc/default/acpi-support fixed the problem. It's rather curious that that wasn't necessary before but now is.
[09:29] <someusernoob> superjew9020: open the program by navigating the menu, then a cross will appear, and click on an application that you want into the tray
[09:29] <mc__> ompaul: not wrong
[09:29] <mc__> ompaul: aks wikipedia
[09:29] <sethk> znh, yes, smartctl.  the SMART mode of webmin is also excellent
[09:29] <superjew9020> navigating wat menu?
[09:29] <ompaul>  mc__ wine is not cedega
[09:29] <jazzrocker> wikipedia is not always right
[09:29] <amgad> thinkl, great.. cudos for you..
[09:29] <someusernoob> superjew9020: its in applications > accesoires
[09:29] <mc__> ompaul: wineX is cedega
[09:29] <someusernoob> superjew9020: i guess
[09:29] <ompaul> ahh
[09:29] <superjew9020> its not there
[09:30] <ompaul> still more of a not on topic set of points
[09:30] <mcphail> ompaul: cedega _was_ wine at one point
[09:30] <swift777> what would cedega be called in the Synaptic package manager?
[09:30] <znh> sethk, which package is that? apt-get install smartctl respons with not found?
[09:30] <superjew9020> nvm i screwed up
[09:30] <jazzrocker> swift777, it wouldn't
[09:30] <Hubuntu> Go get the cvs at cedega/wineX and see what you get
[09:30] <mc__> swift777: cedega is commercial
[09:30] <ompaul> mcphail, my X filter was on I did not see it :)
[09:30] <_mariux> can someone who has gnome installed here check if the gnome character selector allows searching after the names of the chars.? Like e.g. search for "sigma"
[09:30] <someusernoob> superjew9020: what version u have?
[09:30] <jazzrocker> swift777, you would go pay for it and download it from transgaming.com
[09:30] <lotusleaf> swift777: it's not there, there is a trial on cedega's website
[09:30] <mcphail> ompaul: :)
[09:30] <sethk> znh, smartctl is  a program, not a package.  I'll look for the package name, hold on
[09:30] <znh> sethk, ok. thanks :)
[09:31] <superjew9020> .69 but i got it to work i screwed up initially in bash
[09:31] <sethk> znh, package is smartmontools
[09:31] <znh> sethk, awesome. lots of thanks
[09:31] <sethk> znh, has some other stuff in there that may be useful
[09:31] <znh> sethk, for example?
[09:31] <jbrich> Does anyone know anything about Multimedia malfunctions?
[09:31] <davin> is it possible to copy / for backup?
[09:31] <langelot> INSTALL TOTEM-XINE
[09:31] <davin> I wanna tinker with Compiz
[09:32] <Hubuntu> Jbrich what do youi mean?
[09:32] <mcphail> davin: of course
[09:32] <davin> mcphail: how?
[09:32] <znh> sethk, Long (extended) offline self test failed [unsupported scsi opcode] 
[09:32] <mcphail> davin: you want ot back up your _whole_ system, right?
[09:32] <RMorris84> im having a problem i cant mount a partition it says unable to mount selected volume, mount, only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 what do i need to do?
[09:32] <MageZ> someone uses wine to play warcraft 3?
[09:32] <ompaul> !restricted > jbrich
[09:32] <RMorris84> and why didnt it mount automatically
[09:32] <davin> mcphail: yep, on a usb harddisk
[09:33] <sethk> znh, not all drives support all commands.  you can dump the error tables that the drive maintains.  you can probably do the shorter test.
[09:33] <sethk> znh, but the accumulated error statistics are what tells you about the drive health
[09:33] <ompaul> jbrich, please read the message from ubotu it will tell you step by step how to do multimedia stuff
[09:33] <jbrich> Hubuntu, I am trying to listen to my music, and somehow, my whole multimedia setup crashes, and I can't get it to restart, after using the volume control.
[09:33] <Hubuntu> Jbruich go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:33] <davin> jbrich: EasyUbuntu
[09:33] <znh> sethk, how do I perform such test?
[09:33] <mcphail> davin: then probably the best way would be to create an image of your system, using the "dd" command from a live cd. That way you will get an exact snapshot which you can restore to
[09:34] <davin> mcphail: why from a live cd?
[09:34] <RMorris84> how do i mount a partition as root in the terminal?
[09:34] <Hubuntu> Try things manually first.. i have seen easybuntu do crazy things...
[09:34] <sethk> znh, I'll have to look at the man page.  look in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools for information about using it.
[09:34] <davin> RMorris84: sudo mount /dev/blabla /mount/location
[09:34] <sethk> znh, webmin has a very easy gui interface to it, if you have webmin installed
[09:34] <znh> sethk, I do not :)
[09:34] <mcphail> davin: you will get problems backing up something which is changing - some of the files and folders on a running system will change as dd works, which can give errors
[09:34] <Hubuntu> Rmorris use: sudo mount
[09:35] <RMorris84> davin: it says mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1
[09:35] <davin> mcphail: okay, so how do I use this 'dd' ?
[09:35] <davin> RMorris84: sudo
[09:35] <Hubuntu>  use sudo first
[09:35] <RMorris84> davin: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?
[09:35] <sethk> znh, the docs are pretty good.  look at them.  if you still have problems I can help you in a few minutes; I have to do something here first.
[09:35] <davin> RMorris84: yes
[09:36] <znh> sethk, ok. thank you :)
[09:36] <sethk> RMorris84, if /media/sda1 exists.
[09:36] <mcphail> davin: make sure your usb disk is formatted to whatever filesystem you prefer. Then run "sudo dd if=/your/ubuntu/partition of=/path/to/your/usb/drive/backup.img"
[09:36] <superjew9021> i forget who i was talkin to before but now when i minimize somethin to the tray with alltray i cant figure out how to bring it up again
[09:36] <davin> mcphail: if = input file and of = outpout file, correct my if im wrong?
[09:36] <mcphail> davin: correct
[09:36] <RMorris84> sethk: i just did  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 and i tried to goto Computer and it says 29.2g volume but i cant explore it
[09:37] <RMorris84> its a fat32
[09:37] <davin> mcphail: Okay ill try that in a minute, thanks alot!
[09:37] <mcphail> davin: reverse the process to rewstore
[09:37] <mcphail> restore
[09:37] <RMorris84> sethk: nevermind i went out and back in
[09:37] <sethk> RMorris84, you need to use   -t vfat
[09:37] <davin> mcphail: so if id want to restore id use 'sudo dd if=backup of=partition' ?
[09:37] <sethk> RMorris84, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[09:37] <Hubuntu>  use: -t vfat at the end of the mount option
[09:37] <mcphail> davin: yes
[09:37] <davin> mcphail: nifty
[09:37] <superjew9021> hello
[09:38] <superjew9021> ?
[09:38] <RMorris84> sethk: will that make it mount everytime i reboot?
[09:38] <Hubuntu> Gnome should rewcognize your usb disk once you plug it
[09:38] <sethk> RMorris84, no, not unless you add it to /etc/fstab
[09:38] <sethk> RMorris84, it's not a removable device?
[09:38] <mcphail> davin: the other way would be to copy all of the files across individually using rsync (or even plain old cp). I wouldn't recommend this for a full system
[09:38] <RMorris84> no it was my windows partition.. :) but its gone now!
[09:38] <mephis1987> hello , why did netbeans not include in ubuntu , i cant find it in synaptic ?
[09:39] <davin> mcphail: okay, what does dd stand for?
[09:39] <mcphail> davin: no idea!
[09:39] <sethk> RMorris84, you can add it to /etc/fstab to get it to mount at boot.  but if it's gone,...
[09:39] <Hubuntu> Write in at the fstab file if it is a hd you have moiunted ALL the time. A usb should NOT be in /etc/fstab
[09:39] <ompaul> !away > torchie
[09:39] <superjew9021> someusernoob are u there
[09:39] <davin> mcphail: hmm, I think its Disk Duplicate or something
[09:40] <BonBonTheJon> where are network card drivers located
[09:40] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:40] <torchie> oh, I'm not away
[09:40] <mcphail> davin: could be
[09:40] <RMorris84> Hubuntu: it is my actual drive
[09:40] <znh> superjew9020, how do you know.. they might be faking you
[09:40] <RMorris84> sethk: Hubuntu how do i edit fstab?
[09:40] <FirstStrike> !fstab
[09:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[09:40] <superjew9021> wat?????
[09:40] <Hagbarddenstore> Is there a way to symlink something so that ALSA can never be busy?
[09:40] <Hubuntu> Mephis netbeans is available... i think under universe. Try googling something like: netbeans dapper repository
[09:40] <mcphail> davin: there are lots of options to dd where you can fine tune things to make it work faster etc, but the basic command will do the job
[09:40] <noob> hello...i am having a problem printing a windows server 2003 printer
[09:41] <davin> mcphail: how do I totally wipe my usb harddisk and make 1 fat32 partition?
[09:41] <Hubuntu> Use: sudo nano /et/fstab
[09:41] <superjew9021> helloooooooooooooooooo
[09:41] <Hubuntu> Be EXTREMELY cAREFUKK
[09:41] <davin> mcphail: should I try gparted?
[09:41] <FirstStrike> it's /etc/fstab
[09:41] <someusernoob> superjew9020: yes im here, i was typing an email and totally forgot about you, sorry, let me read back
[09:41] <Hubuntu> e
[09:41] <noob> HAS ANYONE PRINTED TO A WINDOWS SERVER 2003 PRINTER?
[09:41] <davin> superjew9021: wait for someone to respond, nobody is responding inmediatley, this is irc
[09:41] <superjew9021> ok
[09:41] <Hubuntu> Yeah /etc/fstab
[09:41] <davin> noob: caps
[09:41] <mcphail> davin: don't use fat32 for your backup - the image file will be too large for it to handle
[09:42] <vicscandl> noob: YES, BUT DON"T USE CAPS
[09:42] <quiet> noob: yes.
[09:42] <someusernoob> superjew9020: how did you get it into the tray? with command line?
[09:42] <davin> mcphail: no wait, ill use ext3, backing up ubuntu for windows to read is useless :P </dumb>
[09:42] <noob> vicscandl: how did you manage to do it?
[09:42] <superjew9021> no accesories >alltray
[09:42] <quiet> noob: http://localhost:631
[09:42] <noob> quiet: as sudo?
[09:42] <vicscandl> noob: attached to it thru the network
[09:42] <someusernoob> superjew9020, i used to use an older version, and i could easily get my icons out of the tray by clicking them
[09:42] <quiet> no... in firefox.
[09:42] <mcphail> davin: make sure the usb hard drive is larger than your ubuntu partition
[09:42] <gemeindeba> folks, have a good night and to all you people helping (me, among lots of others): thanks!
[09:43] <superjew9021> but there is no where to clicdk
[09:43] <noob> quiet: i know but should i run firefox as a super-user?
[09:43] <quiet> noob:
[09:43] <quiet> no.
[09:43] <davin> mcphail: yeah, im making 1 big 150gb ext3 partition on it
[09:43] <someusernoob> superjew9020: do you have a tray?
[09:43] <davin> mcphail: my ubuntu partition on my harddisk is 100gb
[09:43] <mcphail> davin: that will be fine
[09:43] <superjew9021> i dont think
[09:43] <noob> quiet: thank you
[09:43] <superjew9021> how do i add one
[09:43] <davin> mcphail: primary partition, right?
[09:43] <quiet> click on 'add a printer' ?
[09:44] <mcphail> davin: whatever you want
[09:44] <piotr_> ubuntu
[09:44] <mcphail> davin: a logical partition is fine
[09:44] <ompaul> !pl
[09:44] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:44] <quiet> noob: this is a network printer, yes?
[09:44] <someusernoob> superjew9020: right click on the panel > add to panel > search for notification arwa, and add it
[09:44] <davin> mcphail: eww error
[09:44] <someusernoob> superjew9020: notification area, it was a typo
[09:44] <quiet> don't add it as a samba printer... just add it to your machine with cups... using socket://<ip of printer>:9100
[09:45] <noob> quiet: yes it is
[09:45] <mactenchi> anyone here know ntp?
[09:45] <ompaul> someusernoob, your typing 9020 not 9021
[09:45] <davin> mcphail: I think its working now, its 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdf1'
[09:45] <superjew9021> cool thhks
[09:45] <noob> quiet: im a little bit confused
[09:45] <mcphail> davin: that sounds fine
[09:45] <quiet> noob: what is the model and ip address of the printer??'
[09:45] <someusernoob> ompaul: how stupid >_>
[09:45] <piotr_> W menu Gnome Aplikacje| Dodaj/Usun Programy zniklo, jak to przywrcic?
[09:45] <noob> quiet: no its connected to a windows server 2003 server
[09:45] <ompaul> someusernoob, na how typoed :)
[09:46] <quiet> noob: directly? not to a network cable?
[09:46] <vicscandl> noob: System->Administration->Printers then click 'New Printer' and follow the prompts on the screen.
[09:46] <someusernoob> ompaul: ah, he changed his name earlier...
[09:46] <noob> quiet: HP Deskjet 3740 192.168.0.1
[09:46] <davin> piotr_; polska?
[09:46] <ompaul> someusernoob, let me help
[09:46] <ladydoor> !pl > piotr_
[09:46] <miketech> Hi
[09:46] <piotr_> Tak Polska
[09:46] <noob> vicscandl: i tried that..no luck
[09:46] <davin> piotr_: #ubuntu-pl
[09:46] <quiet> noob: 192.168.0.1 is the server, or the printer?
[09:47] <piotr_> Yes Polska
[09:47] <quiet> noob: is the printer connected via jetdirect or usb?
[09:47] <noob> quiet: the printer is connected to the server
[09:47] <noob> quiet: usb
[09:47] <vicscandl> noob: what kind of printer?
[09:47] <quiet> oh.. ok.
[09:47] <davin> piotr_: If your only language is polish, please use #ubuntu-pl, otherwise speak english in #ubuntu
[09:47] <quiet> i don't know then..  i only do network printing.
[09:47] <noob> vicscandl: HP Deskjet 3740
[09:47] <piotr_>  W menu Gnome Aplikacje| Dodaj/Usun Programy zniklo, jak to przywrcic?
[09:47] <davin> mcphail: im gonna boot my live cd now, will go on irc there, brb!
[09:47] <vicscandl> noob is the printer shared on the *cough* windows box?
[09:48] <noob> vicscandl: yes :|
[09:48] <miketech> i wanna run windows in a vmware and use it for daily work. what hardware do you recommend me to have?
[09:48] <langelot> try wine miketech
[09:48] <quiet> miketech: i have that for my workstationat work... it's a P4 3.0 ghz HT with 1 GB RAM...
[09:48] <quiet> works fine.
[09:49] <quiet> miketech: use the vmware-server on ubuntu dapper at howtoforge
[09:49] <miketech> langelot: no this is not a solution *g* I need a windows environment (programming with windows apis)
[09:49] <miketech> howtoforge?
[09:49] <quiet> .com
[09:49] <miketech> ok :) thanks
[09:49] <miketech> and 1 GB Ram is enough?
[09:50] <sethk> miketech, emulation is a high overhead process, so give yourself a lot of memory and a lot of cpu
[09:50] <quiet> works fine for me... i only gave my windows 256 MB
[09:50] <quiet> i just turn off eyecandy
[09:50] <mcphail> langelot: windows runs reasonably well in qemu on decent hardware
[09:50] <vicscandl> noob: can you print to it from another computer on the network?
[09:50] <BonBonTheJon> if I put in a new network card, what will I have to do to install it
[09:50] <mcphail> langelot: sorry - not for you
[09:50] <sethk> miketech, for vmware plus linux, you might want to go higher than 1gig.  You can certainly run with one gig.
[09:50] <noob> vicscandl: i cant print from windows machines
[09:50] <sethk> miketech, you can try it with a gig and increase the memory if the speed is a problem
[09:50] <mcphail> miketech: i have had vmware and windows running reasonably on a 512MB 1.4PentiumM laptop
[09:50] <ompaul> !samba > noob
[09:51] <Vegeta> Does anyone know how a Digital Signatur can be installed on linux?
[09:51] <vicscandl> noob: so you can only print from the actual machine?
[09:51] <ompaul> noob read the info from ubotu
[09:51] <miketech> mcphail: and you could work with it?
[09:51] <kitn> Can someone help me?  I have a failed install and I want to at least be able to boot to my windows partition.
[09:51] <sethk> noob, it's connected to a windows server, and you can't print from windows?
[09:51] <mcphail> miketech: runs reasonably well if you switch off the eye candy
[09:51] <sethk> noob, how can you print from linux if the printer is attached to a windows server, and windows machines can't use it?
[09:51] <vicscandl> sethk: probing the same thing as me, eh?
[09:51] <quiet> i wish vmware supported sound... :\
[09:51] <vicscandl> sethk: great minds...
[09:51] <mcphail> quiet: it does
[09:51] <sethk> vicscandl, trying to figure out what's really going on.  :)
[09:52] <quiet> it does?? how?
[09:52] <kitn> I tried to run gparted but apparently it's not available in Ubuntu 5.04
[09:52] <miketech> ok, but visual studio is big software. so 1 GB should be better :)
[09:52] <Sanne> hi
[09:52] <quiet> mty windows VM has no sound.
[09:52] <Duski> kitn: insert windows cd, go to recovery mode & fdisk /mbr
[09:52] <vicscandl> sethk: sounds to me like the machine is not sharing its printer.
[09:52] <noob> sethk i can print to the printer from all windows machines on the network
[09:52] <mcphail> quiet: well, it does on workstation. Don't know about server
[09:52] <SpComb> BonBonTheJon: Plug 'n Pray, if it goes allright it should just show up as eth1 or whatever by itself
[09:52] <miketech> i mainly need it for some windows programming with VS2005
[09:52] <vicscandl> noob: you just said that you could not. which is it?
[09:52] <sethk> noob, a moment ago you said you can't.
[09:52] <sethk> the question makes a lot more sense if he can print from windows.  :)
[09:52] <vicscandl> sethk: aye.
[09:53] <kitn> Tried that, "fdisk" wasn't an available command from the repair line.  Besdes, I hadn't gotten far enough to install a boot loader, so my MBR should be fine.
[09:53] <noob> vicscandl sethk i can print from windows computers
[09:53] <miketech> maybe xen is a bit faster?
[09:53] <mcphail> miketech: 512MB - it will run, 1 Gig - fairly comfortable 2Gig - very nice
[09:53] <kitn> I just need to set the first partition as the boot partition again.
[09:53] <kc> seth... other day you suggested using ALt Install image to put together an individual package installation of ubuntu... its not working... any ideas?
[09:53] <miketech> with the newest Intel CPUs Xen should work with windows
[09:53] <searayman> i need a good dock/application launcher for gnome
[09:53] <miketech> any experiences with xen?
[09:53] <sethk> noob, did you use a user name and password that are valid for the windows server?
[09:53] <mcphail> miketech: windows won't run on xen yet without the new intel chips
[09:53] <quiet> xen is faster.. but you can only run windows under xen with a VT capable processor.
[09:54] <searayman> any good docks for gnome?
[09:54] <jerware> hi
[09:54] <mcphail> miketech: and i'm not convinced that xen is faster anyway. I have seen contradictory benchmark results
[09:54] <quiet> searayman: what's wrong with gnome-panel??
[09:54] <noob> sethk vicscandl ok..let me explain my network configuration... i have 6 computers and a server...5 of the 6 are windows boxes and one ubuntu box (mine)..all the windows computers can print to the server fine but my ubuntu machine cannot print
[09:54] <mcphail> miketech: but supporting xen supports open source
[09:54] <searayman> quiet: i want somethign that is visibly pleaseing
[09:55] <ompaul> noob, look at samba client
[09:55] <noob> sethk yes i did...i can use all the windows shares
[09:55] <quiet> searayman: gdesklets?
[09:55] <kitn> So, how can I get to a partition manager in Ubuntu 5.04 to set my NTFS partition as the boot partition?
[09:55] <FirstStrike> searayman: download some gnome themes
[09:55] <sam_> How do I make it so my Windows partition is automatically mounted when my pc starts?
[09:55] <RMorris84> sethk: in my fstab it says /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[09:55] <miketech> mcphail: :) good criterion
[09:55] <RMorris84> but its not a ntfs tho
[09:55] <vicscandl> noob: and trying to setup the printer using System->Administration->Printing as a samba printer is not working?
[09:55] <quiet> sam_: add it to /etc/fstab
[09:56] <searayman> quiet: actualy i tried them and i really liek the gnome bar desklet except for one thing, there is a big white box where the notifications area is
[09:56] <sam_> how?
[09:56] <sam_> gksudo edit?(trying to workout how to edit in root
[09:56] <foo> How can I find out how much ram my system is running when idle?
[09:56] <quiet> searayman: try some other windows manager... i'm a bit partial to openbox.
[09:56] <mcphail> miketech: these things are important. In saying that, vmware produce an excellent product and have always been linux friendly. I think they even open-sourced an old version
[09:56] <Flannel> sam_: gksudo gedit, or sudo nano
[09:56] <noob> vicscandl: yes i tried via system>administration>printing but no luck
[09:56] <miketech> currently i have several computers, one for linux and one for win. wanna replace both with one notebook with linux and windows emulated. the new centrinos should work with xen and windows
[09:56] <sam_> ta
[09:56] <searayman> quiet: if there was a way to remove the notifications area and have it blue there liek the rest of the deklet then it would be fine
[09:56] <miketech> well i have never seen xen in action
[09:56] <miketech> is it similar to vmware?
[09:56] <searayman> quiet:  whats openbox?
[09:57] <miketech> with a gui?
[09:57] <kitn> Because until I can boot to windows, I can't download a more recent version of anything.
[09:57] <Eclypse> hey all
[09:57] <RMorris84> im having trouble mounting a partition into ubuntu...
[09:57] <lotusleaf> foo: cat /proc meminfo
[09:57] <lotusleaf> foo: cat /proc/meminfo
[09:57] <quiet> searayman: a very minimal window manager..
[09:57] <Eclypse> ladydoor, it seems to have worked QUITE well, but it was missing files so I would like to know if there is a way to make it so it decompresses accurately 100%
[09:57] <Eclypse> ladydoor, is there any way to make sure of this?
[09:57] <mcphail> miketech: there was no gui when i last tried it, but things may well have moved on since then
[09:57] <vicscandl> searayman: there is also fluxbox
[09:57] <BoAi> help me please~~max_directory=`echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`    at here how to change the variable of  $MAX_DIR
[09:57] <searayman> quiet:  is it possible to remove the notifications area?
[09:57] <ladydoor> Eclypse: bunzip2 itself doesn't usually cause that kind of problem; it's probably an error on the end of whomever compressed it
[09:58] <Eclypse> ladydoor, well is there any way to get the most accurate? just in case you know?
[09:58] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone had any success in getting a Sony Minidisc Walkman working in ubuntu
[09:58] <ladydoor> Eclypse: i don't know...i think that the accuracy question is mostly on the end of the compressor
[09:58] <miketech> ok i should give it a try then
[09:58] <Eclypse> Ladydoor, ok lol
[09:58] <BoAi> please some people help me help me please~~max_directory=`echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`    at here how to change the variable of  $MAX_DIR
[09:59] <RMorris84> hey guys i just deleted my windows partition, and made it a fat32 it shows up alright, but its no mounted and when i mount it i cant write files to it.. and its not mounted when i boot up...
[09:59] <searayman> quiet:  ca i edit the code somehow and make it not yse the gnome notification in the gdesklet
[09:59] <Eclypse> Ladydoor, I'll try some more
[09:59] <mcphail> BoAi: don't repeat so often, and think carefully about how you phrase the question
[09:59] <ladydoor> Eclypse: :-(
[09:59] <Lirik> alguien habla espaol?
[09:59] <ladydoor> Eclypse: sorry. you could read the manual i guess
[09:59] <ladydoor> !es
[09:59] <Flannel> !es
[09:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:59] <davin> mcphail: you there?
[09:59] <BoAi> im sorry
[09:59] <searayman> Lirik: un poco
[09:59] <mcphail> davin: still here for the moment
[09:59] <BoAi> i cant speak english well
[09:59] <Lirik> ok
[10:00] <ladydoor> BoAi: there are native language support channels
[10:00] <vicscandl> BoAi: neither can I. ;)
[10:00] <davin> mcphail: im unable to mount my ubuntu partition (sda3)
[10:00] <killown> I not foud gcc what I do?
[10:00] <mcphail> BoAi: neither can I, and it is my first language :)
[10:00] <swift777> Does anyone know how i could learn Spanish (Without paying or going to a school)?
[10:00] <BoAi> ??
[10:00] <LinuxHelp> Does anybody know of an ftp client that can do recursive file searching?
[10:00] <BoAi> i know
[10:00] <mcphail> davin: you don't need to mount it
[10:00] <MenZa> !offtopic > swift777
[10:00] <Flannel> !tell killown about build-essential
[10:00] <BoAi>  just find some artcle and read it
[10:00] <searayman> quiet: ?
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: well its unable to mount
[10:01] <kitn> Never mind, cfdisk seems to work.
[10:01] <kitn> Thanks!
[10:01] <BoAi> best way is find a spanish girlfirend
[10:01] <mcphail> davin: you don't need to mount it to copy it
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: it didnt auto-mount, and it says inaccesable at System > Administration > Disks
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: oh really?
[10:01] <BoAi> i just~
[10:01] <LightTitan> how do I uninstall wine?
[10:01] <mcphail> davin: although, it would be sensible to find out what disk problem you are having
[10:01] <davin> mcphail: but /dev/sda3 isnt a place, is it?
[10:02] <vicscandl> noob: sorry man, i'm at a loss. what shows up if you nmap that winboxen?
[10:02] <rambo3> http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[10:02] <mcphail> davin: does /dev/sda3 exist?
[10:02] <LightTitan> I did not install it through synamtic. I did a manual install from a patched wine.
[10:02] <Complexity> can somebody point me to a link instructing me how to set up a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu?
[10:02] <Flannel> LightTitan: then delete the files
[10:02] <davin> mcphail: yes, it says so at the gnome disks manager
[10:02] <Flannel> !tell Complexity about dualboot
[10:02] <killown> I want install gcc base
[10:02] <mcphail> davin: then that is fine. dd can copy the device
[10:02] <`Lam> i have a headset with its own internal sound card attachment, thus acting as a second sound device, but whenever i switch to my headset from my default sound card, things like Totem or MPlayer still play from the default sound card until i restart the computer.  is there a way to fix that without restarting the computer?
[10:03] <Flannel> killown: install build-essential
[10:03] <LightTitan> Flannel, what exactly do you mean by delete the files....
[10:03] <killown> Flannel ok thanks
[10:03] <davin> mcphail: sudo dd if=/dev/sda3/ /media/usbdisk/backup' ?
[10:03] <davin> mcphail: i mkdir'ed 'backup' on the usbdisk
[10:03] <mcphail> davin: /media/usbdisk/backup/filename
[10:03] <Flannel> LightTitan: manually delete all the files you installed when you installed wine, unless you compiled it and there's a make [remove/clean/whatever]  option, or installed it through dpkg
[10:03] <wims> !lamp
[10:03] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:04] <BoAi> echo $MAX_DIR | sed -e 's&\\\&/&g'`  see this~  the max place must be 3dsmax dir~ but i dont know where to change that~~~
[10:04] <BoAi> understand my mean?
[10:04] <davin> mcphail: what do you mean by filename? it backs up to a file?
[10:04] <mcphail> davin: yes
[10:04] <Complexity> can somebody point me to a link instructing me how to set up a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu?
[10:04] <LightTitan> I compiled my own wine... so what command do I use to remove it?
[10:04] <davin> mcphail: no file extension, am i right?
[10:04] <Flannel> Complexity: ubotu sent you a link
[10:04] <mcphail> davin: you are creating an image file of the whole partition
[10:04] <davin> mcphail: I get it
[10:04] <mcphail> davin: you can give it any extension you want. Linux doesn't care about these things
[10:05] <jrib> BoAi: no, can you elaborate?
[10:05] <LOL> how do i access my harddrive through the livecd?
[10:05] <davin> mcphail: okay lemme try this
[10:05] <jrib> LOL: system > administration > disks
[10:05] <Complexity> ahh thanx
[10:05] <BoAi> ok i make a post
[10:05] <mcphail> davin: i would usually call it backup.img, to remind _me_ what sort of file it is
[10:05] <BoAi> thanks advance
[10:05] <Flannel> LightTitan: check the makefile for a make remove or something, something that deletes all the files.  Otherwise you'll just have to manually track and delete them
[10:05] <mcphail> davin: be prepared for a long wait as it backs up
[10:06] <LOL> jrib i need access to the files
[10:06] <jrib> LOL: what filesystem?
[10:06] <RMorris84> im having trouble with mounting a partition in ubuntu...  it shows up but it isnt mounting correctly i looked at the fstab and it says its a ntfs and i formatted it with fat32, and its not letting me write files to it... what am i doing wrong
[10:06] <LOL> i think ext3 jrib
[10:06] <davin> mcphail: dd: unrecognized operand '/media/usbdisk/backup'
[10:06] <ladydoor> LightTitan: sudo make uninstall will uninstall it
[10:06] <davin> mcphail: sorry, forgot the filename
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: hmm still says so
[10:07] <killown> I want to put "sudo gnome-terminal" in icon launch application but it not works
[10:07] <mikeconcepts> request help with dual monitor setup, have nvidia gforce 5200 FX and have already did some of what's required
[10:07] <mcphail> davin: what _exactly_ did you type
[10:07] <jrib> LOL: well using system > administration > disks, should let you mount it.  You can use 'gksudo nautilus' to have root permissions using nautilus in case the permissions on the files don't let your regular user access them
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: 'sudo dd if=/dev/sda3/ /media/usbdisk/backup/image/'
[10:07] <noob> ok vicscandl...i dont know if this is of any use..but when i smbclient -L the server  i get the printer share
[10:07] <LightTitan> Flannel and Ladydoor, thank you.. I did find that file and used the make uninstall command. It worked, thanks.
[10:07] <mcphail> davin: you missed the of=
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: forgot of= :)
[10:07] <ladydoor> killown: you need to make that gksudo
[10:07] <davin> mcphail: hehe
[10:07] <mcphail> davin: :)
[10:08] <ladydoor> LightTitan: np
[10:08] <erik_> Is there any advantage in having a swap partition ?
[10:08] <LOL> jrib the disks program just lets me view its properties (such as how big it is) but not access the dirs and such
[10:08] <davin> mcphail: dd: opening `/dev/sda3/`: not a directory
[10:08] <vicscandl> noob: try using smbclient to connect to the printer share.
[10:08] <davin> mcphail: I think it needs to be mounted, as dev/sda3 is a file
[10:08] <killown> ok
[10:08] <vicscandl> noob: if that works, then i don't see why setting it up in the administration won't work.
[10:08] <noob> vicscandl please advise as to how to do that
[10:08] <mcphail> davin: _everything_ is a file
[10:08] <Flannel> erik_: swap partitions give you 'more' ram
[10:09] <jrib> LOL: is there a "partitions" tab you can click on?
[10:09] <vicscandl> noob: lemme go check the man page
[10:09] <davin> mcphail: hmmhmm
[10:09] <mcphail> davin: check to see if /dev/sda3 exists
[10:09] <mcphail> davin: the livecd may have called your disk something different
[10:09] <kerwonz> hi, when gnome 2.4.16 release?
[10:09] <erik_> Flannel: Well I know what swap is, but isn't linux 2.6 capable of swapping to file like windows ?
[10:09] <LOL> jrib yes, it says inaccsible
[10:09] <kyja> 916 users @ freenode atm
[10:09] <killown> ladydoor but I don't want popup
[10:10] <kyja> bla
[10:10] <davin> mcphail: Device: /dev/sda3 | Filesystem: Extended 3 | Size: 97.92 GB
[10:10] <davin> mcphail: Its not active
[10:10] <vicscandl> noob: smbclient //<server>/<printershare>
[10:10] <jrib> kerwonz: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/
[10:10] <davin> mcphail: and am not able to mount/set it active
[10:10] <mcphail> davin: try removing the slash after /dev/sda3 in your dd command
[10:10] <vicscandl> noob: i think... been a while since i have used smbclient CLI mode. ;)
[10:10] <noob> vicscandl lol
[10:10] <ladydoor> killown: what were you expecting? if you want to use sudo/gksudo, you need to be prompted for your password for it to do anything
[10:11] <jrib> LOL: create a directory for the "Access Path" and then enable it
[10:11] <davin> mcphail: that did the trick
[10:11] <Duski> can someone help me with this
[10:11] <Duski> [R200Setup]  X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.1.0, required X.org 7.0.-1.8
[10:11] <Duski> (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
[10:11] <vicscandl> noob: have not run a windows machine (for myself) for over 2 years now.. :'P
[10:11] <mcphail> davin: thought it would
[10:11] <killown> ladydoor nopasswd
[10:11] <noob> vicscandl: ok...i get a smb: \> prompt
[10:11] <davin> mcphail: now I hear my harddrives rattling and a flashing square, guess ill have to go grab a beer and wait ;-)
[10:11] <mcphail> davin: go and get yourself a beer. This will take a lot of time
[10:12] <mcphail> davin: lol
[10:12] <noob> vicscandl thaats where i want to be..100% ubuntu
[10:12] <vicscandl> noob: ok, so you can connect to it, type quit
[10:12] <ladydoor> killown: ah. something of a bad idea when opening a root console
[10:12] <davin> mcphai: heheh
[10:12] <Sanne> erik_: here's something about a swap file, point 6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[10:12] <davin> mcphail: cheers mate
[10:12] <BoAi> http://boai.awardspace.com/viewtopic.php?p=17  hi~~  i make it fully post~~
[10:12] <kerwonz> jrib, but the ubuntu packages?
[10:12] <Elcy> hi
[10:12] <tuxtux> reboot
[10:12] <jrib> kerwonz: I am guessing that it will be in edgy
[10:12] <davin> mcphail: so when its done ill be able to control the shell again?
[10:12] <BoAi> so~ just take a look~ give me a little help please
[10:12] <jrib> !edgy
[10:12] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:12] <mcphail> davin: yes
[10:12] <noob> vicscandl how come that means i cant connect to it?
[10:12] <kerwonz> jrib, edgy, what's that
[10:13] <mcphail> davin: you can ask dd for a progress report
[10:13] <BoAi> jrib:  see my post~ please
[10:13] <davin> mcphail: good, off to the fridge!
[10:13] <erik_> Sanne: thanks
[10:13] <Tonren> Who knows how to set up a Keyspan USB-to-SErial converter?
[10:13] <vicscandl> noob: no, you can... ok now bring up the add a printer dialog again, and i'll walk you thru it...
[10:13] <Sanne> erik_: you_re welcome :)
[10:13] <LOL> where would the firefox bookmarks be installed?
[10:13] <vicscandl> noob: note the server and printer share name you used before.
[10:14] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??
[10:14] <noob> vicscandl firing up the add printer dialog now
[10:14] <noob> vicscandl..ok ready
[10:14] <kendrick> hello! i'm trying to add an external USB drive to a (headless) kubuntu-based server i've got running here
[10:14] <vicscandl> noob: Network printer, change to 'Windows printer'
[10:14] <kendrick> i'm not sure what modules and daemons i need to get running on it to make that happen
[10:14] <ofn> how can i make gnome use windows shortcuts like super-d (show desktop) super-e (open home folder)
[10:14] <jrib> BoAi: I'm not sure what your question is.  Are you wondering where $MAX_DIR comes from?
[10:15] <vicscandl> noob: server name into host, printer share into printer, username and password if you need that.
[10:15] <kendrick> fwiw, i had it running fine on a kubuntu desktop (which still has a USB-based CF card reader attached, which works)
[10:15] <davin> ofn: youd have to create scripts in /usr/bin
[10:15] <BoAi> yes
[10:15] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??
[10:15] <davin> ofn: and if you want set keyboard hotkeys using gconf-editor in metacity
[10:15] <BoAi>  i just wonder where it from
[10:15] <cvt> why can't i burn cd's from files on an external hd?
[10:15] <RMorris84> ok im having trouble with reformatting a partition and then getting it to mount correctly after the fact.. can someone walk me through the correct way to do it
[10:15] <noob> vicscandl it prompts me to authenticate on the domain
[10:15] <ofn> davin: i'm using compiz...
[10:15] <vicscandl> noob: username and pasword
[10:15] <jrib> ofn: it's a bit involved, you have to edit the gconf keys and use <mod4> as the modifier key (that is what the 'xmodmap' command tells me to use for Super_L which is the windows key)
[10:15] <vicscandl> noob: fill them in?
[10:15] <noob> vicscandl authenticated
[10:15] <davin> ofz: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:16] <davin> ofz: you want to make terminal commands for gnome?
[10:16] <vicscandl> noob: so it worked then?
[10:16] <Vegeta> What is "Linux RPM"? I want to download Java and there is for Linux and for Linux RPM, what is the difference? I'm using Ubuntu, should I choose the one with linux only?
[10:16] <ladydoor> jrib: you could always use xbindkeys, which are easier to set up than the gconf editor...
[10:16] <HesNikke> alright, i've got 2 networking problems that i suspect might be related
[10:16] <Elcy> jadi bingung
[10:16] <HesNikke> first
[10:16] <Duski> can someone help me "X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.1.0, required X.org 7.0.-1.8" ?
[10:16] <BoAi> jrib:  the max mean 3ds max~  i need to edit its path~ but dont know how to
[10:17] <swift777> whats the copy command for the Linux Terminal ?
[10:17] <ofn> davin: nah... i want to change gnome shortcut keys
[10:17] <noob> vicscandl: we are about to find out
[10:17] <kendrick> Vegeta: RPM is a package format used by RedHat and some other distros
[10:17] <LOL> where are my bookmarks from firefox located?
[10:17] <RMorris84> ok im having trouble with reformatting a partition and then getting it to mount correctly after the fact.. can someone walk me through the correct way to do it
[10:17] <kendrick> Ubuntu uses DEB, the Debian package format
[10:17] <davin> ofz: on your keyboard?
[10:17] <ladydoor> swift777: cp filetobecopied destination
[10:17] <ofn> yup
[10:17] <kendrick> if you cannot find a DEB package, you may need to run "alien" on the RPM to convert it into a DEB.
[10:17] <swift777> ladydoor: thanks
[10:17] <Elcy> jadi bingung
[10:17] <kendrick> or if they have sourcecode available (e.g., in a ".tar.gz" file), download and compile it
[10:17] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt application and i have many questions to slove!
[10:17] <jrib> ladydoor: true
[10:17] <ladydoor> swift777: and if you're copying multiple files to one dir, you could do cp file1 file2 file3 dir
[10:17] <Vegeta> kendrick: So I should choose "Linux" and NOT "Linux RPM"?
[10:17] <noob> vicscandl: no dice :| it says "printing" and then says "paused
[10:17] <HesNikke> no matter how i tweek /etc/hdcp3/dhclient.conf whenever it renews my IP addresses, it screws with my DNS settings and INSISTS on using my router as DNS rather than a real DNS server that actually works
[10:17] <Elazar> Is there a way to check for packages that aren't dependencies of other packages and/or haven't been used recently?
[10:18] <HesNikke> any ideas?
[10:18] <Eclypse> hey ladydoor, is there a difference between bz and bz2 compression?
[10:18] <jrib> BoAi: it's not really possible to tell what sets MAX_DIR, does 'echo $MAX_DIR' in your terminal give you output now?
[10:18] <kendrick> Vegeta: depends on what they (whoever it is) says the "linux" download is
[10:18] <kendrick> you may want to ask them (Sun?)
[10:18] <ladydoor> Eclypse: bz2 is more recent/advanced...
[10:18] <jumbers> I'd like to know if I'm just retarded or if this is a true problem. Is audio out of sync with video in Flash on Ubuntu?
[10:18] <bluefusionxl> How is everyone?  I hate that Ubuntuguide turned into a Wiki.. it sucks big tennisballs
[10:18] <vicscandl> noob: give it a few, perhaps the printer is warming up?
[10:18] <davin> im actually using irssi now on the live cd :P too lazy to setup gaim for irc
[10:18] <Eclypse> ladydoor, I think its possible that the .dmg may be compressed in regular bz
[10:18] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt win32 application and i have many questions to slove!
[10:18] <ladydoor> Eclypse: oh...weird
[10:18] <Sanne> Vegeta: java is in the ubuntu repositories
[10:18] <bluefusionxl> I am installing Breezy right now, and I'm going to upgrade it to dapper using apt
[10:18] <noob> vicscandl this printer is always online
[10:18] <Eclypse> ladydoor, you think I would need a differnet program for that?
[10:19] <killown> exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[10:19] <Eclypse> ladydoor, because it seems to be inconsistant in the decompressed image.
[10:19] <killown> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[10:19] <HesNikke> alright, 2nd
[10:19] <BoAi> jrib: sorry im nor sure~ seen like it give me null
[10:19] <killown> What I do?
[10:19] <Eclypse> ladydoor, its really odd, I think it should be 4.43GB or something, but its only 3.4
[10:19] <bluefusionxl> type apt-get install glib
[10:19] <bluefusionxl> :P
[10:19] <davin> mcphail: id have to say, this irc channel totally outnumbers microsofts phoneline, but thats just my opinion
[10:19] <HesNikke> i havn't looked into timing yet, but IP networking likes to die on a regular basis
[10:19] <HesNikke> and then it comes back on it's own a bit later
[10:19] <ladydoor> Eclypse: i don't know
[10:19] <killown> E: glib package not found
[10:19] <bluefusionxl> If I am installing ubuntu server, will I still get apt?
[10:19] <Vegeta> Sanne: Ok thank you :)
[10:19] <erik_> the same mounted 'windows drive' shows up twice on my desktop.. as its "windows label" and as "/media/device" using current edgy..
[10:20] <vicscandl> noob: sorry then, this is the extent of my knowledge/capability then
[10:20] <mcphail> davin: microsoft are never keen to answer questions about ubuntu ;p
[10:20] <Sanne> Vegeta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:20] <HesNikke> i CAN say that it happens more often than the IP lease renews
[10:20] <killown> bluefusionxl, not found glib package
[10:20] <ladydoor> davin: irssi's better anyway, for irc, since it's specifically designed for it and isn't an x application
[10:20] <BoAi> i think when it cant find anything it just give me nothing(null)
[10:20] <bluefusionxl> kill, let me try to find what is wrong
[10:20] <noob> vicscandl: im going to send you a screen shot
[10:20] <hetao> is there anybody know something about IFS??i wanta some help about to write a folder encrypt win32 application and i have many questions to slove!
[10:20] <HesNikke> SMB networking works just fine
[10:20] <vicscandl> noob: you may want to try printing something from windows to see that the printer is able to print? (perhaps there is a more general error?)
[10:21] <mookid> I've mounted my windows partition but I can only access the folder it's mounted to as root - does anyone know why and how i can fix this?
[10:21] <Eclypse> does anyone know of any programs other then bzip2 that can decompress .dmg.bz files?
[10:21] <HesNikke> *blink*
[10:21] <bluefusionxl> Glib is the basis of Gtk.  Try sudo apt-get install gtk, kill
[10:21] <HesNikke> ok, IP networking isn't completely dead, it just let me ssh into the box
[10:21] <jared777> is there anyway when using kismet to keep it from disabling the rest of my internet connection so i can keep chatting and browsing the web?
[10:21] <noob> vicscandl: i'll try now
[10:21] <vicscandl> jared777: get 2 wifi cards. ;)
[10:22] <killown> package gtk not found bluefusionxl
[10:22] <bluefusionxl> im gonn eat.. brb
[10:22] <jrib> BoAi: well I am not sure what your goal is, but why can't you directly edit the script and change it to what you want?
[10:22] <jared777> thought you would say that :)
[10:22] <bluefusionxl> kill, I believe your apt-get sources are mewssed up then.  Go to ubuntu.nl/source--matic and get some more sources
[10:22] <jared777> might have to try ndiswrapper and get my built in one to work
[10:22] <BoAi> join #ubunto-tw
[10:23] <BoAi> ~~ my bad
[10:23] <vicscandl> noob: where you sending that screenshot to?
[10:23] <noob> vicscandl: to u
[10:23] <mooky> evening channel
[10:23] <IMEC> how can i import the correct mit-magic-cookie for root automatically, instead of doing it by hand every time i restart x-server?
[10:23] <vicscandl> noob: but where? pastebin?
[10:23] <HesNikke> so nobody has any ideas?
[10:24] <HesNikke> i feel like i'm being ignored here
[10:24] <cvt> how do i give permission to k3b to access my external hd and my external dvd burner?
[10:24] <Eclypse> does anyone know of any programs other then bzip2 that can decompress .dmg.bz files?
[10:24] <mc__> HesNikke: be patient
[10:24] <noob> vicscandl: i have no idea
[10:24] <noob> vicscandl: im a newbie
[10:24] <`Lam> i have a headset with its own internal sound card attachment, thus acting as a second sound device, but whenever i switch to my headset from my default sound card, things like Totem or MPlayer still play from the default sound card until i restart the computer.  is there a way to fix that without restarting the computer?
[10:24] <ladydoor> HesNikke: if nobody knows, nobody will help you. it's not "ignoring"
[10:24] <davin> how do I scroll up in isrssi? (terminal
[10:24] <HesNikke> lol
[10:25] <Flannel> davin: pageup
[10:25] <HesNikke> fine, it'd be nice if i got an i dunno or 2 :P
[10:25] <`Lam> :'(
[10:25] <vicscandl> noob: so how are you going to 'send it to me'?
[10:25] <davin> Flannel: Cheers :-)
[10:25] <BoAi> jrib: i was think bot that~ but im use a small system~  if i edit here then i afraid somehere will more bad~~ and out of i can control
[10:25] <mc__> HesNikke: everyone who says nothing means "dunno"
[10:25] <noob> vicscandl: by clicking your name and clicking "send file" (im using xchat)
[10:25] <mookid> I've mounted my windows partition but I can only access the folder it's mounted to as root - does anyone know why and how i can fix this?
[10:25] <vicscandl> HesNikke: was not following you, gimme a minute to backscroll..
[10:25] <jared777> what programs can't i use with ndiswrapper? just stuff like kismet and threal?
[10:25] <BoAi> could i pack the system and please you have a look?
[10:25] <davin> mcphail: hehe no I meant that when you call them they dont wanna go very in-depth, while here you guys are really helping people
[10:25] <vicscandl> noob: but I am not, so I will never see the file.
[10:26] <Flannel> mookid: change the umask in your fstab
[10:26] <noob> vicscandl: so how do i send it to u?
[10:26] <jrib> BoAi: try this and then run it again:   export MAX_DIR=what_you_want
[10:26] <BoAi> ok
[10:26] <vicscandl> !pastebin > vicscandl
[10:26] <mookid> Flannel: where abouts is fstab i forgot
[10:26] <killown> what repository has glibc?
[10:26] <BoAi> ^_^
[10:26] <kendrick> hrm
[10:26] <enrique> exit
[10:27] <vicscandl> !pastebin > noob
[10:27] <kendrick> i see in my /var/log/messages:  Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[10:27] <vicscandl> that will tell you
[10:27] <Flannel> mookid: /etc/fstab
[10:27] <mookid> k
[10:27] <Flannel> killown: main
[10:27] <Flannel> killown: if you install build-essential, it should grab all that stuff
[10:28] <vicscandl> noob
[10:28] <vicscandl> noob: so were you able to print right now with one of the winboxen on your network?
[10:28] <killown> Flannel but I yet installed it
[10:29] <aluno> aluno
[10:29] <aluno> aluno
[10:29] <Sanne> mookid: here's some info on umask and fstab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VolumePermissions
[10:30] <vicscandl> HesNikke: your wifi is dropping at random intervals?
[10:30] <HesNikke> nope
[10:30] <HesNikke> other computers on that node are working just fine
[10:30] <vicscandl> HesNikke: your wired is dropping?
[10:30] <HesNikke> Samba networking is working just fine
[10:31] <mookid> ty
[10:31] <HesNikke> it's starting to look like my ip traffic is being dropped at the router O_o
[10:31] <HesNikke> but only for my ubunutu box
[10:32] <HesNikke> i'm gonna reboot it
[10:32] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[10:32] <HesNikke> especially since my video mode for consol just got screwed up O_o
[10:32] <noob> vicscandl: yes i can successfully print from a windows box
[10:33] <mortal5> where can i find vim/xvim 7 for ubuntu?
[10:33] <vicscandl> noob: can you check the settings on one of the winboxen how its printer is setup (not the one that the printer is connected to)
[10:33] <killown> I not found glib in apt-get repositories
[10:33] <Shak-> is there an ubuntu client that allows you to connect to a windows machine running remote desktop?
[10:34] <lotusleaf> mortal5: have you tried compiling it?
[10:34] <Rich43> Shak-, yes, have you looked at the package manager?
[10:35] <noob> vicscandl: well...im not great on ubuntu but i know that all the windows boxes first authenticate on the domain and then hav full access to printing
[10:35] <HesNikke> rebooting didn't fix it
[10:35] <mortal5> lotusleaf, this is ubuntu, you shouldn't have to compile a major package like vim
[10:35] <erik_> i get double icons on my desktop, its a windows drive shown as: both /media/hda1 and windows .. both 'links' point to the same drive
[10:35] <HesNikke> i hate 2wire
[10:35] <vicscandl> noob: trying to find out if the winboxe are using SMB or if they are using something else..
[10:36] <Vegeta> Sanne: The Java package doesn't exist on "Add/Remove Programs" :S
[10:36] <Shak-> Rich43 yes, im aware there is one that allows ubuntu -> ubuntu connections or windows -> ubuntu, but I havent seen anything that allows ubuntu -> windows
[10:36] <noob> vicscandl: and how could i find that out?
[10:36] <Deeah> What package do I need to install from edgy(X7.1) to have 3d acceleration? I have an ati 9100, and I'm using the "ati" driver by default when I installed dapper. But I'm missing some package(module?) for 3d stuff
[10:37] <lotusleaf> mortal5: yes, but it doesn't hurt to ask :) You might ask on the Ubuntu Forums if anyone knows where a .deb may be for that app and version if you don't find your question answered here
[10:37] <vicscandl> noob: check the settings for the printer on one of the networked winboxen, not the one that has the printer attachd to it.
[10:37] <crashd> anyone know why cinepaint wont install properly on a64 dapper? :\
[10:37] <BoAi> i upload the system~ could someone take a look?
[10:37] <jbmigel> Deeah run "glxinfo | grep direct"
[10:38] <jbmigel> Deeah your card should be supported 3D with the free Xorg drivers... no need for you to install anything!
[10:38] <Shak-> Rich43 also this isnt with vnc, im trying to connect to windows's native remote desktop server
[10:38] <goldfish> hi
[10:38] <mortal5> lol get this, if I want to uninstall vim to install 7, it wants me to uninstall ubuntu minimal
[10:38] <Sanne> Vegeta: maybe try Synaptic package manager. You might have to enable the multiverse. The link I gave explains that, and gives a link to a page about anabling repositories.
[10:38] <mcphail> mortal5: i'm running vim6 and 7 on the same install
[10:38] <davin> mcphail: gonna cry so hard if the live cd would lock up now =o
[10:39] <mcphail> davin: it hasn't, has it???
[10:39] <davin> mcphail: nah, how would I be writing this? ;-)
[10:39] <noob> vicscandl: well what am i looking for?
[10:39] <Deeah> jbmigel: direct rendering: No
[10:39] <Deeah> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:39] <mcphail> davin: true :)
[10:39] <davin> !pastebin > Deeah
[10:40] <Sanne> Vegeta: do you still have the link to the wiki page?
[10:40] <Deeah> jbmigel: I know my card is supported, but I am missing xorg module/package I'm not sure what
[10:40] <mortal5> why does ubuntu use these 'metapackages' ?  For instance, if i want to remove gstreamer, it wants to remove ubuntu desktop
[10:40] <jbmigel> ya thats weird... sorry man i cant help you debug, just works for me
[10:40] <lampshade> what are the big diffs in VIm 7?  I didn't even know it came out?  What could they really do to improve other than speed?
[10:40] <shwag> how do I install all secuity updates ?
[10:40] <mortal5> lampshade, tabs, code completion
[10:40] <Deeah> jbmigel: xorg is modular, you can have xorg run with only 2d support. There is a 3d library for xorg.
[10:40] <mortal5> etc etc
[10:40] <lampshade> mortal5: code completion?????
[10:41] <davin> shwag: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | sudo apt-get update ?
[10:41] <xdx> how can i see my partition ?!
[10:41] <shwag> davin...well that would upgrade everything. I only want security updates
[10:41] <vicscandl> noob: how the printer is setup.
[10:41] <mortal5> www.vim.org
[10:41] <lampshade> mortal5: holy crap wow, checking it out now,
[10:41] <goldfish> how do i network two ubuntu pc together
[10:41] <noob> viscandl: i see how its setup..so what do you want to know
[10:42] <mookid> Are there any equivalents to cubase for linux? :)
[10:42] <Vegeta> Sanne: Yeah I still am at the page, but I don't see how to create a multiverse.
[10:42] <davin> shwag: shouldnt it notify you?
[10:42] <Sanne> Vegeta: one sec
[10:42] <vicscandl> noob: what kind of setup is it? SMB, direct network printer,???
[10:42] <goldfish> need help with networking
[10:42] <shwag> davin, actually i dont have a gui installed. this is a server.
[10:42] <nashife> I'm running dapper, and I just installed wine from synaptic and I can't get sound to work no matter how i configure it with winecfg.  can someone help?
[10:42] <goldfish> nfs
[10:43] <noob> vicscandl: direct network printer
[10:43] <mookid> Ohh btw.. can anyone tell me if there is less support for ubuntu 64 at the moment
[10:43] <xdx> how can i see my partition ?!
[10:43] <goldfish> want to share folders
[10:43] <noob> vicscandl: i dont think that windows to windows uses samba
[10:43] <vicscandl> noob: so there is an ip address and not an SMB computer?
[10:43] <goldfish> where are shared folder shown
[10:43] <mcphail> shwag: why don't you just leave the "security" repos uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <vicscandl> noob: SMB is a protocol.
[10:44] <noob> vicscandl:  well...in that case it is smb
[10:44] <jbmigel> xdx man fdisk
[10:44] <mcphail> shwag: and comment out the others
[10:44] <Sanne> mookid: Not exactly equivalents. Look around at http://ubuntustudio.com and http://linux-sound.org/. Closest would be: muse, rosegarden, ardour (no midi yet, but coded right now), beast, lmms, wired.
[10:44] <vicscandl> noob: so its like //<computername> not //192.168.4.4?
[10:44] <shwag> mcphail, thats a good idea
[10:44] <Vegeta> Sanne: I have downloaded the latest version of Sun Java, why can't I just install that. If so, how do I install THAT file (I'm really a newbie :/...)?
[10:44] <noob> vicscandl: its like //server/HPDeskje
[10:44] <mookid> oki doki thanks Sanne
[10:44] <mcphail> shwag: but most (?all) of the updates for the stable ubuntu branch are security related
[10:44] <xdx> when i run cfdisk i got that FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[10:44] <xdx>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[10:44] <vicscandl> noob: and that is what you put in the setup on the ubuntu boxen?
[10:44] <xdx> why ?!
[10:44] <goldfish> my computer is goldfish-desktop my friends is bully
[10:44] <fokuslee> hi all i need some help with SLI
[10:44] <noob> vicscandl: yep
[10:45] <jbmigel> xdx sudo?
[10:45] <noob> vicscandl:  it asked me to put in the host and the printer
[10:45] <vicscandl> noob: hrm, ok, can you connect to any of the windows shares from the ubuntu boxen?
[10:45] <Sanne> Vegeta: oif you're a beginner, better stick with installing ubuntu packages before you know how to do things manually. Som, on the java page, at the top under "Prerequisites", there's a link to "Managing Repositories".
[10:45] <noob> vicscandl: host-server printer-HPDeskje
[10:45] <xdx> jbmigel,  i run with live cd
[10:45] <noob> vicscandl: yeah...i can access the shares perfectly
[10:46] <goldfish> helllllllllllllllllllp
[10:46] <Vegeta> Sanne: I went there, but it doesn't explain how to create a multiverse (I have universe)..
[10:46] <ompaul> !ask
[10:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <shwag> mcphail, looks to me like most of them just want to upgrade the package name from  ubuntu6.06  to  ubuntu6.06.2
[10:47] <mooky> hello ompaul
[10:47] <mooky> didn't see you lurking
[10:47] <miketech> hm when I install windows in a vmware I have other system components than my system has in real.
[10:47] <mcphail> shwag: most minor version updates are security related
[10:47] <miketech> is it the same in xen?
[10:47] <miketech> does it emulate the hardware too?
[10:47] <miketech> or does it use the real components of the system?
[10:47] <Sanne> mookid: there's also a sub-forum on ubuntuforums for ubuntustudio, if you have any questions. Also the channels #ubuntu-studio and #lad (linux audio user and devs) here on freenode.
[10:47] <vicscandl> !printing > vicscandl
[10:47] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[10:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:48] <mookid> excellent
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> have you guys read about this "dadvsi" I know I wont be following it!
[10:48] <mookid> :D
[10:48] <Vegeta> Through Synaptic, I can see that java-common and java-gcj-compat are installed, but there arent other java files there, other than java-gcj-compat-dev which is not isntalled.
[10:48] <fokuslee> can anyone help me with sli probleM?
[10:48] <Chris_Swift> Hey anyone here a coder for Linux apps? I am an ex-windows programmer and looking for some assistance in finding tutorials and compilers for the linux i386 architechure
[10:48] <mookid> Sanne: are there many budding RDJ's out there in the linux world then? :P
[10:48] <Sanne> Vegeta: on the page linked to, under section "Managing Repositories", there are links how to do that on Ubuntu, Kubuntu and from the command line. That should tell you how to do that.
[10:49] <miketech> Chris_Swift: what programs do you wanna write?
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> well i used to code for Games and mods but now i am interested in messenger apps
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> C++ language
[10:49] <miketech> ok
[10:49] <ompaul> !grub > xdx
[10:49] <miketech> for kde or gnome?
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> Gnome amt
[10:49] <Chris_Swift> *atm
[10:49] <jbmigel> Chris_Swift install build-essential for C/C++ then find yourself a dev environment
[10:49] <miketech> then you have to use gtkmm
[10:50] <miketech> gtkmm.org
[10:50] <erUSUL> Chris_Swift: http://catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/
[10:50] <miketech> this is the gtk binding for c++
[10:50] <vicscandl> noob:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:50] <Chris_Swift> ok htanks guys
[10:50] <miketech> np
[10:50] <vicscandl> noob: er, not that one http://linuxprinting.org
[10:50] <Chris_Swift> need to learn some new stuff now
[10:50] <miketech> there are a lot of tutorials
[10:50] <mookid> Can anyone tell me if using 64 bit ubuntu a disadvantage? I'm using it at the moment but only because I have an AMD 64 and I didnt realise 32 bit would run fine :(
[10:50] <miketech> on gtkmm.org
[10:50] <Sanne> mookid: there are some, but linux audio lacks a nice virtual studio yet. Lots is in the works right now, but it's still pretty early. It's a bit troublesome to really get to work, although some do. Recording is fine, though (with ardour, as I heard).
[10:51] <Crippy-Boy> Chris_Swift: Install build essential and grab Code::Blocks (Get the nightly build .deb and install using dpkg)
[10:51] <fokuslee> yeah you don't have flash on mozilla
[10:51] <fokuslee> and no real player
[10:51] <mookid> ok so it's gonna take some hacking to get it working basically
[10:51] <mookid> :DD
[10:51] <jrib> mookid: and no w32codecs
[10:51] <Sanne> mookid: I'm also reading this one from time to time: http://www.nabble.com/linux-audio-user-f13236.html
[10:51] <jbmigel> mookid it is about the same, only read difference is you cant run flash, but then again nobody can run flash 9 anyway so meh
[10:51] <opera_> hi
[10:52] <miketech> does anybody know, if I can install a windows on my system and boot it with xen? or do i have to reinstall the system in xen?
[10:52] <miketech> this would be great :)
[10:52] <mookid> yeah not having flash really pisses me off :/
[10:52] <Crippy-Boy> miketech: You cant run windows in xen
[10:52] <fokuslee> mokid and also no w32codecs
[10:52] <miketech> so i could boot windows if i need full performance or start in xen if i wanna use it in linux
[10:52] <Sanne> mookid: you can have flash and the codecs, lemme find you a link
[10:53] <miketech> Crippy-Boy: with newest cpus I can
[10:53] <fokuslee> mokid plus i don't see a major speed improvement
[10:53] <quiet> Crippy-Boy: you can.
[10:53] <mookid> apparently its more stable in 64 bit is that true?
[10:53] <quiet> Crippy-Boy: any VT capable processor can run Windows in Xen
[10:53] <mookid> and I can run flash by running a 32 bit firefox cant I ?
[10:53] <quiet> yes.
[10:53] <jbmigel> mookid it's a little faster maybe 10% having some extra registers... Id stay in 64bit cuz its cool and not many do
[10:53] <FurryNemesis> has anyone else had trouble accessing the  forums today?
[10:53] <Crippy-Boy> quiet: I might be wrong but didnt it take some NTKernel hacking to get it running?
[10:54] <quiet> no.
[10:54] <Sanne> mookid: some pages to read for amd64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=amd64&titlesearch=Titles
[10:54] <miketech> only if you don't have a vt capable cpu
[10:54] <mookid> thanks mate :)
[10:54] <mookid> thanks alot everyone
[10:54] <quiet> there was some of that.. before the VT stuff came out
[10:54] <caesar_> hey, I want to scroll around webpages when I middle click in firefox. How do I turn that on?
[10:54] <fokuslee> jbmigel do u now anything about nvidia sli?
[10:54] <mcphail> mookid: running amd64 ubuntu is a bit like running linux 3 years ago - good fun but you need to work at it
[10:54] <Crippy-Boy> quiet: Ahh i appologise i havent looked at xen for a while
[10:54] <jbmigel> fokusless sorry no i dont... I know it's cool.
[10:54] <Sanne> mookid: also in the forums there's a sub forum for 64 bit (it's down at the moment, so I can't provide a link right now...)
[10:55] <mookid> kk
[10:55] <quiet> Crippy-Boy: np..  i don't use xen either... i run vmware-server
[10:55] <quiet> it's a lot easier.
[10:55] <fokuslee> yeah itz not working on my comp pissing me off and i post on forum no one can hel either
[10:55] <jbroome> yeah, i popped in here to ask if the forums were running off someones dial-up
[10:55] <Sanne> mookid: good luck (lots to read, eh? ;)
[10:55] <mookid> yep! :D
[10:55] <quiet> jbroome: you're serious??
[10:55] <quiet> jbroome: no.
[10:55] <mookid> thanks for your help Sanne
[10:55] <caesar_> nvm. Got it taken care of
[10:55] <Sanne> mookid: you're welcome :)
[10:55] <jbroome> quiet: </sarcasm>
[10:56] <mookid> :)
[10:56] <fokuslee> lol yeah forum was super slow
[10:56] <FurryNemesis> mmm, I can't even get there on the windows maching
[10:56] <FurryNemesis> *machine
[10:56] <magical_trevsky> quiet, on the subject of xen, how do i find out if my processor is VT capable?
[10:56] <mooky> I'm really struggling to get the correct resolution out of my monitors. I've read the wiki "fix resolution" threads to no-avail. I would really appriciate some thoughts on how to get the correct resolution out of these monitors. I know they are capable of higher. I'm using the nvidia binary driver
[10:56] <quiet> magical_trevsky: what processor is it?/
[10:56] <Crippy-Boy> quiet: Just curious, Do you know which processors are VT capible? just for future reference
[10:56] <mookid> is VMWare server free on linux? :O
[10:56] <magical_trevsky> cpu[1 x Mobile AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ @ 1.66GHz w/ 256 KB L2 Cache] 
[10:56] <miketech> no it isn't
[10:56] <quiet> mookid: yes.
[10:56] <mookid> PRAISE THE LORD!
[10:56] <quiet> Vmware-server is free on everything.
[10:57] <miketech> only newest Intel CPUs are VT capable
[10:57] <magical_trevsky> ah, ok
[10:57] <mookid> I thought you had to pay for it on xp ?
[10:57] <Blissex> mookid: not the server version: the player.
[10:57] <mookid> ohh
[10:57] <mookid> bent
[10:57] <mookid> :/
[10:57] <Renan_s2> Blissex, but there is a free Server version
[10:57] <Renan_s2> I use it.
[10:57] <zoidberg> does anyone use TVTIME here?
[10:57] <Crippy-Boy> miketech: Newest being the 'core' series?
[10:57] <Sanne> mookid: the player is in the repositories
[10:57] <bigjb> there is a free server version for all supported platforms
[10:57] <mookid> player only runs live cd's tho eh?
[10:58] <quiet> Blissex: what are you talking about??  server is too free.
[10:58] <mookid> are we talking about torrents here or what?
[10:58] <zoidberg> does anyone here use TVTIME?
[10:58] <Krpano> to install the nvidia video drivers on a laptop is the same method as the desktop ?
[10:58] <Sanne> mookid: you can get a virtual machine on the net and install anything you want. I made myself a nice little windows 98 se virtual machine :)
[10:58] <miketech>  Intel Core Duo: Alle Modelle auer T2300E Intel Core Solo: Ultra Low Voltage Modelle Intel Core 2 Duo: Alle Modelle Intel Core 2 Extreme: Alle Modelle Intel Pentium 4: 6x2-Modelle Intel Pentium D: 9xx-Modelle, auer 915, 925 und 945 Intel Pentium Extreme Edition: 9xx-Modelle Xeon DP / MP: Alle Modelle mit "Paxville-MP"-Kern bzw. 7xxx-Serie Intel Itanium 2: "Montecito" Modelle
[10:58] <jrib> Krpano: yes
[10:58] <quiet> no... in the vmware website.
[10:58] <jrib> !nvidia > Krpano
[10:58] <Gumby> anyone here use frostwire?  Ive installed the ubuntu package from the frostwire website but it cant seem to find the java executable.  It wants to find it in /usr/java, /usr/lib, /usr/java, or /opt/  but ubuntu's sun jre resides in /usr/bin/java.  Anyone have any ideas (other than a symlink)?
[10:58] <Adam> hi all
[10:59] <FurryNemesis> !frostwire
[10:59] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:59] <miketech> mostly Intel Core and Pentium D
[10:59] <miketech> or itanium
[10:59] <Krpano> thx
[10:59] <Adam> when compiling ivtv I get this:
[10:59] <Adam>  WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers
[10:59] <Adam>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[10:59] <Crippy-Boy> hmm but not 820?
[10:59] <jrib> Gumby: run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and make sure Sun's is selected
[10:59] <ompaul> Gumby, you tell the machine in sudo update-alternatives where to find java
[10:59] <Adam> what does it mean?
[10:59] <bigjb> mookid: http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/VMware-server-1.0.0-28343.tar.gz
[10:59] <mookid> \o/
[11:00] <quiet> mookid: that's an old version.
[11:00] <quiet> use the latest.
[11:00] <kylebaked> is there a math program sorta like octave or mathomatica that has a gui?
[11:00] <mookid> ok
[11:00] <quiet> 29996
[11:00] <bigjb> erm, thats the latest available version of of vmwares site
[11:00] <Sanne> mookid: virtual machines here: http://www.easyvmx.com/   Some more info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVmPlayer
[11:00] <Help> what should the default permissions of /etc be?
[11:00] <quiet> http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[11:00] <Qball> matlab has a gui. but not free
[11:00] <Sanne> mookid: beep if you're getting overloaded ;)
[11:00] <kylebaked> argh, thanks
[11:00] <cntb> Sanne Iwant windows Xp on XEn
[11:00] <Gumby> jrib & ompaul: perfect, thanks guys(gals)
[11:01] <kylebaked> anything else you know of
[11:01] <bigjb> heh
[11:01] <Sanne> cntb: aha...
[11:01] <bigjb> sorry mookid quiet is right
[11:01] <quiet> cntb: you better cough up the dough for a VT processor.
[11:01] <mookid> nps i'll survive ;D
[11:01] <bigjb> i clciked download link before the button link had loaded for the latest version :P
[11:01] <cntb> VT processor
[11:01] <vicscandl> noob: sorry i could not be more of a help.
[11:01] <cntb> ?
[11:01] <Sanne> cntb: I don't know anything about xen, sorry, never used it.
[11:01] <quiet> cntb: the only way you can run windows udner Xen.
[11:02] <quiet> cntb: Pentium D, Core Duo, Itanium...etc.
[11:02] <mooky> does anyone have any tips on sorting out Xorg resolution issues. I've been through the fixresolution page on the wiki
[11:02] <cntb> have PEntium D
[11:02] <quiet> which?
[11:02] <miketech> oh and cool:
[11:02] <miketech> just read:
[11:02] <cntb> 3 MHZ
[11:02] <noob> vicscandl: no i appreciate the help that you gave mi
[11:02] <miketech> you can install the guest system in the file system
[11:02] <Sanne> mookid: good to know, so here are some more links for you ... (joke)
[11:02] <miketech> not only in a image
[11:02] <quiet> cntb: which model..
[11:02] <casey420> is there a way i can access my windows network on ubuntu to play my music off my desktop on my ubuntu desktop ?
[11:03] <davin> mcphail: hehe its still backing up, im going to bed now anyway, so long and thanks for the fish
[11:03] <vicscandl> noob: wonder if it is win2k3 specific.
[11:03] <miketech> shouldn't it be possible to install windows and linux parallel and boot windows in a linux xen?
[11:03] <mcphail> davin: night
[11:03] <mookid> Sanne: lol :D
[11:03] <Captain_Redbeard> quick question, how to add a user to MySQL? can't remember :/
[11:03] <Phiwum2> whois davin
[11:03] <Sanne> mookid: :)
[11:03] <goldfish> help network please
[11:03] <quiet> miketech: no.
[11:03] <mookid> I think my allready uber hungry firefox is about to explode
[11:03] <vicscandl> !network > goldfish
[11:03] <miketech> hm why not? :(
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <noob> vicscandl: yeah i guess so because a lot of people have gotten it to work on xp
[11:03] <goldfish> how do i network two ubuntu pc together
[11:03] <vicscandl> !networking > vicscandl
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Sanne> mookid: lot's of tabs open, hehe. Me too.
[11:04] <mookid> ^^
[11:04] <stefg> !samba
[11:04] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:04] <ompaul> !nfs > goldfish
[11:04] <Captain_Redbeard> !mysql
[11:04] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:04] <quiet> miketech: because it's not installed a virtual system... it's just another OS on the disc.
[11:04] <noob> !weed
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about weed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Phiwum2> Hey guys.  Ubuntu newbie here.  I have a version of Mythtv on my slackware box and I wanted to run a frontend on my ubuntu laptop, but there's a version mismatch (Ubuntu's is older).
[11:04] <miketech> ok other way:
[11:04] <noob> just trying something
[11:04] <mookid> !troll
[11:04] <miketech> install windows in xen
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <miketech> on the filesystem (not a image)
[11:04] <Phiwum2> So I thought I'd compile from source, but then I lose the advantage of package system.
[11:04] <miketech> so the files are on the system
[11:04] <noob> !coca-cola
[11:04] <stefg> !botabuse
[11:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coca-cola - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <miketech> maybe i can boot the system?
[11:05] <|BiSHoP|> Is there a text-mode installation program for Ubuntu (latest 6.0.x) using the LiveCD?
[11:05] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:05] <Phiwum2> How hard is it to create a package myself?
[11:05] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu take less than four months to boot up?
[11:05] <quiet> miketech: yes. if you have the ability to.. as has been discussed.
[11:05] <goldfish> any ideas
[11:05] <quiet> Tonren: disable startup services??
[11:05] <noob> phiwum2: are you talking about the alien package?
[11:05] <stefg> Tonren: k7-CPU?
[11:05] <jared777> Okay i got ndiswrapper installed how do i tell my apps such as firefox to use eth1 while kismet uses eth2
[11:05] <miketech> hm this would be great :)
[11:05] <noob> !sex
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <Tonren> stefg: What's that?
[11:06] <bretzel> cool -- using dvdshrink within VMWare::winxp pro
[11:06] <quiet> Tonren: mine doesn't boot slowly for a full featured desktop... granted.. not nearly as fast as Arch.. but it's not unbearable.
[11:06] <Tonren> quiet: Can I do that by hunting around /etc/init.d
[11:06] <jared777> try man woman
[11:06] <stefg> Tonren: AMD Athlon Xp+
[11:06] <noob> !woman
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <noob> !shemale
[11:06] <ompaul> noob sstop messing with the bot
[11:06] <mookid> noob.. you're going to get banned
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shemale - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <Tonren> stefg: Windows boots up in like 15 seconds.  It takes Ubuntu about 2 minutes
[11:06] <goldfish> where are shared folders shown??????????/
[11:06] <noob> lol ok
[11:06] <bretzel> lol
[11:06] <noob> ompaul mookid sorry dudes
[11:06] <Phiwum2> noob: No.  I want to compile from source and create a new package
[11:07] <mookid> dont appologise to me I'm just a random tramp
[11:07] <mookid> :D
[11:07] <vicscandl> noob, don't be one.
[11:07] <noob> phiwum2: oh use ./configure
[11:07] <jrib> !checkinstall > Phiwum2
[11:07] <stefg> Tonren: that's no answer to my question... it's just a (meaningless) statement
[11:07] <noob> vicscandl: i have no intention of being a tramp lol
[11:07] <Renan_s2> anybody here has a GIMP 2.3.x package for Ubuntu?
[11:07] <barata> anybody please give me mplayer
[11:07] <Tonren> stefg: OH, you were asking if I HAD one
[11:07] <Tonren> stefg: No, I have an AMT Turion 64
[11:07] <jrib> barata: it is in the multiverse repository
[11:07] <barata> it's so hard to install it in ubuntu
[11:07] <Tonren> stefg: But I'm running 32bit ubuntu
[11:08] <ompaul> !mplayer > barata
[11:08] <noob> vicscandl:  i just enjoy chattin shit to bots
[11:08] <ompaul> barata, read that web page
[11:08] <Phiwum2> jrib: Thanks!
[11:08] <barata> !mplayer
[11:08] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[11:08] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:08] <ompaul> barata, the bot messaged you
[11:08] <|BiSHoP|> The X.org server on the LiveCD won't allow me to use resolutions higher than 640x480 (using the ATI Radeon Driver, which it uses automatically) ...  I can't get it to install properly using that resolution, is there any way around this (perhaps a text installation or forcing it to use the frame buffer driver instead)?
[11:08] <noob> !mounting > noob
[11:08] <bfxl-eating>  how do I change the root password?  I forgot was it sudo root passwd ?
[11:08] <davin^zZz> mcphail: you still here?
[11:08] <noob> !mounting network shares >noob
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounting network shares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <mcphail> davin^zZz: yes
[11:09] <bluefusionxl>  how do I change the root password?  I forgot was it sudo root passwd ?
[11:09] <ompaul> noob, msg the bot
[11:09] <davin^zZz> mcphail: is there a chance of auto pc shutdown or anything like that?
[11:09] <barata> I know, and I did that already ... but I dont know it refused to build ... and I dont feel like to go into the deps jungle
[11:09] <jrib> !sudo > bluefusionxl
[11:09] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: sudo passwd root
[11:09] <davin^zZz> mcphail: letting my pc on for the night
[11:09] <noob> vicscandl:you wouldnt happen to know how to mount a networked windows share?>
[11:09] <bluefusionxl> thanks
[11:09] <mcphail> davin^zZz: unlikely
[11:09] <noob> vicscandl:  at boot time
[11:09] <stefg> Tonren: try to boot up without the 'quiet splash' parameters (thus no uplash), and see if it changes something. I had a strange 30 sec. delay with the stock kernel, which went away when I compiled my own
[11:09] <Tonren> So, anyone have any hints on increasing bootup speed?  Mine's going REAL slow.
[11:09] <davin^zZz> mcphail: turned screensaver off just in case :-)
[11:09] <mcphail> davin^zZz: my current uptime is 24 days
[11:09] <ompaul> ladydoor, only say !root > don't go to that other place - let people read the page and leave it there
[11:09] <noob> !root
[11:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:09] <bluefusionxl> that wasn't needed jrib.  LOL
[11:09] <davin^zZz> mcphail: whoa, how big is your power bill? XD
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> I know what sudo does lol
[11:10] <ladydoor> ompaul: well, this person asked how to change the root password, specifically
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> but thanks
[11:10] <Tonren> stefg: how do I change my boot parameters, anyway?
[11:10] <barata> heih, the mplayer page also doesnt exist
[11:10] <bluefusionxl> and thanks ladydoor
[11:10] <ompaul> noob, you have been asked once - message the bot
[11:10] <ladydoor> ompaul: and sounds like zie knew before
[11:10] <davin^zZz> Good night people
[11:10] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: np
[11:10] <jrib> bluefusionxl: yeah I think the command is somewhere on that page, or at least it used to be :P
[11:10] <noob> ompaul: how do i do that..im a n00b
[11:10] <ompaul> ladydoor, we don't do it, that info is on that page
[11:10] <vicscandl> noob: naw, like i said, i gave up on winblows 2 years ago.. ;)
[11:10] <ompaul> !register > noob
[11:10] <iturk> hi there is there any password for user root in ubuntu ??
[11:10] <ladydoor> ompaul: ok, i'll keep that in mind. however, i su to root.
[11:10] <ompaul> !msgthebot > noob
[11:11] <ladydoor> !root > iturk
[11:11] <ompaul> noob, read the messages from the bot
[11:11] <searayman> can i edit a gdesklet code and chang what the desklet looks a littl bit?
[11:11] <noob> vicscandl:  lol
[11:11] <stefg> Tonren: press esc at boottime to enter grub's menu, then press c to be able to edit the line starting with 'kernel'.. remove the words quiet and splash from tha line, then press 'b' to boot with that edited parameter
[11:11] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[11:11] <bluefusionxl> iturk, there is not by default.  You have to set it with sudo passwd root
[11:11] <jared777> how can i tell if ndiswrapper installed correctly i am using 2 wifi cards
[11:11] <Tonren> stefg: ah ok.  i wasn't sure if there was a way to do it from within linux.
[11:11] <bluefusionxl> and your sudo password is your own password
[11:12] <searayman> can i have hlep editing gdesklet code a little?
[11:12] <ompaul> iturk, you actually don't need to use it
[11:12] <jbroome> !botabuse > noob
[11:12] <iturk> bluefusionxl: thanks
[11:12] <bluefusionxl> ndiswrapper... ooh that's, imo, the most hard thing to use in linux.  But maybe it was because my card used prism and it cou ldnt connect wirelessly.
[11:12] <ompaul> iturk, you can survive very well with http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:13] <bluefusionxl> I suggest you try linuxquestions.org for that
[11:13] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[11:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:13] <iturk> ompaul: to set up postgresql i need to add an user using su first then su postgres
[11:13] <bluefusionxl> !ndiswrapper
[11:13] <bluefusionxl> Question:  Why do people even use PostgreSQL?  What's wrong with MySQL?
[11:14] <mooky> personal preference
[11:14] <mooky> postgres had features mysql didn't - first
[11:14] <stefg> iturk: sudo -i or sudo -s gives you a root shell
[11:14] <ompaul> iturk, no :-) sudo apt-get install postgresql works and does the hard stuff including whatever you want then you can su that usename
[11:14] <bluefusionxl> oh
[11:14] <quiet> i wish they would upgrade xmoto in the repos... the one there is REALLY old.
[11:14] <ompaul> bluefusionxl, over one gig dbs are way faster on postgresql
[11:14] <iturk> bluefusionxl: i have try both i can say mysql has problems with standard sql.
[11:15] <eXistenZ> How can I guarantee that only a certain group can open some directory?
[11:15] <Squeebles> I'm trying to install Wine onto my AMD64 Ubuntu, can't find out how to find it...
[11:15] <mooky> eXistenZ: chmod
[11:15] <mooky> and chown
[11:15] <goldfish> sharing folders between 2 ubuntu machines???????????
[11:15] <mooky> goldfish: is that a question ?
[11:15] <noob> ompaul: how do i mount networked windows shares at boot time?
[11:15] <mooky> fstab
[11:15] <mooky> or autofs
[11:15] <goldfish> yes any help would be nice
[11:15] <vicscandl> iturk: what standard sql problem did you have with mysql?
[11:15] <mooky> goldfish: look at samba
[11:15] <ompaul> !ntfs > noob
[11:15] <iturk> ompaul: if i just do su postgres it says not recognise command !!
[11:16] <stefg> goldfish: 2 options samba or nfs, which were both mentioned last time you asked, but you chose not to notice
[11:16] <jordan> Xchat is not working correctly for me, I am using irssi right now.
[11:16] <noob> ompaul: not on this hard drive...networked
[11:16] <goldfish> i thought samba was for windows
[11:16] <ladydoor> iturk: you do sudo postgres
[11:16] <mooky> noob: samba
[11:16] <ladydoor> iturk: not su postgres.
[11:16] <mooky> goldfish: yes, you asked to connect to your windows network
[11:16] <emergent> i'm following the wpa how-to for dapper and it says that I can left click on the network manager icon and choose 'connect to other wireless network' but it's not there, any ideas?
[11:16] <ompaul> iturk, try su - username
[11:16] <noob> mooky: what should i put in the /etc/fstab files
[11:16] <goldfish> no i want to connect 2 ubuntu machine together
[11:16] <mooky> noob: the server, the mount point, the mount options
[11:17] <mooky> same as a local drive
[11:17] <iturk> vicscandl: i had last year with table creations that had self incremental values !!
[11:17] <goldfish> not ubuntu to windows
[11:17] <mooky> goldfish: nfs or samba then
[11:17] <goldfish> ubuntu to ubuntu
[11:17] <mooky> your choice
[11:17] <vicscandl> iturk: AUTO_INCREMENT?
[11:17] <stefg> !samba
[11:17] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:17] <goldfish> i have selected nfs
[11:17] <mooky> either will work
[11:17] <mooky> ok - great.
[11:17] <ladydoor> !sudo > iturk
[11:17] <iturk> i already resolv it !! root has now a pass and all went well
[11:17] <mooky> nfs them up then
[11:17] <goldfish> but cant find any shared folders on either desktop
[11:17] <iturk> vicscandl: yes
[11:17] <|BiSHoP|> Does anyone know what to put in the 'driver' entry in the xorg.conf file to use the framebuffer driver?
[11:17] <barata> where is the default folder for libjack0.80.0-0 for mplayer?
[11:17] <Ric1> can I ask a technical question about Ubuntu here?
[11:17] <goldfish> where do i look
[11:17] <mooky> goldfish: have you exported the shares
[11:17] <stefg> goldfish: samba is easier for beginners... install samba and smbfs
[11:18] <mooky> do you have all services runnign ?
[11:18] <goldfish> thanks for help by the way
[11:18] <barata> I just 'ln -s' libjack..so to that libjack0.80.0-0
[11:18] <Squeebles> I'm trying to install "Wine" onto my ubuntu AMD64, I downloaded a wine package.gz  is that right?
[11:18] <emergent> em let me clarify: the wnetwork-manager icon is there, but the option for connecting to wireless network isn't
[11:18] <mooky> Squeebles: no
[11:18] <iturk> and thanks for the help !!
[11:18] <Nebular> I want to mount the initrd image, what fs type would I use with the mount command?
[11:18] <mooky> not unless you wish to go around dpkg
[11:18] <bluefusionxl> anyone know how you accomlist "replace" with nano?
[11:18] <stefg> Squeebles: it's in the repos, so you could apt-get /if/ it would work in 64-bit :-)
[11:18] <Vegeta> How can I close an Adept application? Because I can't acces the "Add/Remove Programs" or Synaptic, because it says that some Adept Application is running. How do I know whta it is and kill it?
[11:18] <bluefusionxl> accomplish *
[11:18] <erUSUL> Nebular: cramfs i guess (try with auto)
[11:19] <Squeebles> awesome, thought so.. thanks Stef
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> anyone know how you accomplish "replace" with nano?
[11:19] <goldfish> do i get a network icon or anything
[11:19] <mooky> Squeebles: you know it doesn't work 64 bit ?
[11:19] <Ric1> test
[11:19] <mooky> goldfish: have you read anything on NFS ?
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> What's to test Ric1?
[11:19] <bluefusionxl> lol it's an irc channel.  It works
[11:20] <goldfish> no im new to it all
[11:20] <vicscandl> iturk: where you bringing in new data, or new table creation?
[11:20] <|BiSHoP|> Ric1: To answer your question: apparently not.  :)
[11:20] <Ric1> it's my new nickname
[11:20] <mooky> goldfish: then perhaps read up on it before using it ?
[11:20] <bluefusionxl> I see
[11:20] <Ric1> "mahler"
[11:20] <vicscandl> iturk: sorry to be inquisitive... i'm an sql nutcase.
[11:20] <bluefusionxl> anyone know how you accomplish "replace" with nano?
[11:20] <vicscandl> bluefusionxl: ctrl-r ?
[11:20] <iturk> vicscandl: i reallly dont remember but i remember to send a bug report to mysql
[11:20] <goldfish> this is why linux want get any where simple thing are to complex
[11:20] <bluefusionxl> vic, no that's append
[11:20] <mooky> its not complex
[11:20] <Sanne> Squeebles: this might help you with amd64: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[11:20] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: try control-\ or esc (or alt)-r
[11:20] <mooky> you just have to read
[11:20] <Ric1> I'm here for a technical question: How do I change the resolution of the start-up loading screen from Ubuntu?
[11:20] <ompaul> !nfs
[11:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:21] <mooky> the same as you do with a new windows feature
[11:21] <vicscandl> iturk: thanks. ;)
[11:21] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: and for future reference, you can press control-G to get help
[11:21] <ladydoor> on commands
[11:21] <stefg> goldfish: Linus _is_ userfriendly, it's just picky about its friends :-)
[11:21] <iturk> vicscandl: i have learn first postgresql then i migrate to mysql and i had several problems
[11:21] <nozorro> Ric1: i think it this is a known bug ...
[11:21] <vicscandl> bluefusionxl: i use vim, used to use nano
[11:21] <Xenguy> bluefusionxl: ^-G  :P
[11:21] <bluefusionxl> alt r worked, thanks :)
[11:22] <vicscandl> iturk: postgres has some great features that took mysql until 5.0 to get solid.
[11:22] <nozorro> Ric1: you might try playing with resolutions in xorg.conf though
[11:22] <iturk> vicscandl: can you give me a email i can send you the database that i try to pass to mysql with a lot of problems
[11:22] <maple1> I like MS SQL
[11:22] <ladydoor> bluefusionxl: sweet.
[11:22] <vicscandl> iturk: pastebin it
[11:22] <goldfish> im not running a server just 2 client machine running ubuntu
[11:22] <vicscandl> !pastebin > iturk
[11:22] <stefg> goldfish: install smbfs, enter a line in /etc/fstab (which i can tell you when you're done) and that's it then... it's easier than in windows
[11:22] <mooky> goldfish: then it will never work
[11:22] <ompaul> goldfish, you have been asked to read the NFS page
[11:22] <mooky> you need a server application
[11:23] <bluefusionxl> What is Edgy Elf?
[11:23] <iturk> vicscandl: ok i will try to put the information of that files on it wait ...
[11:23] <Ric1> Do you see me as Ric1 ?
[11:23] <Phiwum2> How do I get a list of installed packages?
[11:23] <LightTitan> how do I kill my xserver so I can make graphic changes
[11:23] <nozorro> Ric1: yep
[11:23] <bluefusionxl> I mean Edgy Eft
[11:23] <Xenguy> Ric1: yep
[11:23] <mooky> thats how client server applications work
[11:23] <vicscandl> iturk:  no worries, i'll be here all day.. ;)
[11:23] <mcphail> LightTitan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:23] <LightTitan> mcphail thx
[11:23] <erUSUL> LightTitan: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:23] <Vegeta> Why can I now acces the Synaptic or Add/Remove Programs? It says another process is using the package system. How can I see wich process it is and kill it?
[11:23] <livingdaylight> I need to be 300%sure: does using the live cd installer not wipe the partitions if i don't select format, ev en though i click 'install'
[11:24] <Squeebles> Sanne: Thanks! that site helps a ton
[11:24] <Sanne> Ric1: I read that the login screen takes the first resolution that is specified for you screen in xorg.conf.
[11:24] <Ric1> hmm, Xgl crashes when using too much Shift and letters
[11:24] <nozorro> Vegeta: cloick on sys monitor in panel to start system monitor ...
[11:24] <iturk> vicscandl: they are 8 files are you shore you dont have an email i will just zip them and send it in 3 seconds !!
[11:24] <livingdaylight> Seveas: hi, i'm in another fix
[11:25] <mcphail> Ric1: shift and backspace usually messes things up
[11:25] <Vegeta> nozorro: And then?
[11:25] <Sanne> Squeebles: yeah, it's great. I run 32bit wine on amd64, works fine so far. Also check out the wiki for amd64 specific pages, great stuff there.
[11:25] <Ric1> that might be it mcphail
[11:25] <nozorro> Vegeta: look for the offending program in the process list
[11:25] <Vegeta> nozorro: Should I kill something called "adept notifier"?
[11:26] <nozorro> Vegeta: maybe yes
[11:26] <Frederick> folks wich is the package name for image magick libs in uvuntu?
[11:26] <Ric1> anyway... about my question to change the startup resolution. This is a known bug? What is the bug#? And playing with X.conf probably only changes the Desktop resolution
[11:26] <mc__> Frederick: apt-cache search imagemagick
[11:26] <mooky> no it doesn't
[11:26] <stefg> !info imagemagick
[11:26] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 6:6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0.2 (dapper), package size 1576 kB, installed size 4068 kB
[11:26] <mooky> xorg changes your startup up
[11:26] <ladydoor> Ric1: do you want to change the resolution during boot? is that your question?
[11:26] <mooky> image
[11:26] <mcphail> Frederick: i'm sure there is a libimagemagick
[11:26] <nozorro> Vegeta: right-click and use End or Kill
[11:26] <Sanne> Frederick: or you can find out on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:26] <mooky> xorg controls anything x-related
[11:27] <mooky> or do you mean the bootsplash
[11:27] <Vegeta> nozorro: I did.
[11:27] <Ric1> ladydoor: yes
[11:27] <nozorro> Vegeta: try now to start synaptic
[11:27] <Frederick> folks Ive installed it but it seems ubuntu package is broken
[11:27] <ladydoor> Ric1: ok, you need to edit your menu.lst. do you knwo what resollution you want?
[11:27] <Frederick> at least I was unable to compile -> http://www.imagemagick.org/script/magick-wand.php
[11:27] <Ric1> yes, 1200x1600
[11:27] <Vegeta> nozorro: It can't the same problem
[11:27] <Ric1> but any higher then 1024x768 will do ;)
[11:27] <nozorro> Vegeta: error msg?
[11:27] <w30> Vegeta, on a terminal type ps aux | grep synaptic
[11:28] <livingdaylight> Seveas: need to reinstall grub. Using the live cd can i go through the installation process even though i  click 'install' andnot lose my data
[11:28] <Frederick> can anyone please try itfor me?
[11:28] <stefg> !build > Frederick
[11:28] <erUSUL> !grub > livingdaylight
[11:28] <Frederick> stefg, ?
[11:28] <ladydoor> Ric1: *higher* than that??? i'm sorry, i don't know the vga setting
[11:29] <ladydoor> Ric1: but if you can find it, add to the kernel line in menu.list the command vga=somenumber
[11:29] <Vegeta> w30: What should that do=
[11:29] <Frederick> stefg, Ive installed the packages incluididng the dev ones and I know how to use gcc
[11:29] <Ric1> alright
[11:29] <LightTitan> #nvidia
[11:29] <Ric1> and that number should correspond with 1024x768 somehow?
[11:30] <stefg> Frederick: why would you want to compile imagemagick if it's available in the repos?
[11:30] <ladydoor> Ric1: should correspond with whatever resolution you want. i know the one for 1024x768, but you said you wanted a higher one?
[11:30] <w30> Vegeta, it will give you the process number then type kill -9 thatnumber
[11:30] <ladydoor> *that was supposed to be a statement
[11:30] <Vegeta> nozorro: The error msg is: Another process is using the package system database (probabaly some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). PLease close the other application before using this one".
[11:30] <Frederick> stefg, read carefully I don't want to compile the lib I want to use its c pai!
[11:30] <Frederick> api
[11:30] <barata> what is the apt command for installing a downloaded deb package?
[11:30] <LightTitan> when I try to run synaptic I get this error. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file, what the hell does that mean?
[11:30] <barata> apt-get something?
[11:30] <w30> Vegeta, the process number is the first number
[11:30] <nozorro> Vegeta: look for that process and kill it like i said, or following w30's advice
[11:31] <lotusleaf> barata: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:31] <ladydoor> barata: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[11:31] <iturk> vicscandl: http://pastebin.ca/165433
[11:31] <Xenguy> barata: apt-get install package
[11:31] <Vegeta> w30: It gives me "5460  0.0  0.1   2924   812 pts/4    S+   23:28   0:00 grep synaptic" :S
[11:31] <barata> thanks lotusleaf ladydoor & Xenguy
[11:31] <ladydoor> barata: np
[11:31] <lotusleaf> barata: yw
[11:31] <Ric1> ladydoor: 1024x768 would be an improvement, but I'd like 1280x1024 actually, just like my desktop
[11:31] <ladydoor> !language > LightTitan
[11:31] <w30> Vegeta, try kill -9 5460
[11:31] <stefg> Frederick: ah, ok... then it's probably doc-reading time....
[11:31] <biob> hwello
[11:31] <Nebular> .
[11:32] <ladydoor> ahhh, ok. in the meantime, for 1024x768 you would use vga=792
[11:32] <Sanne> Ric1: table at end of page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[11:32] <ladydoor> Ric1: ahhh, ok. in the meantime, for 1024x768 you would use vga=792, which works fine for me
[11:32] <Frederick> stefg, Ive googled, read man, sent mail to lists
[11:32] <Phiwum2> Is there an easy way to see how a package was configured at compile time?  I.e., what flags were sent to configure?
[11:32] <nozorro> w30: he wanted to start synaptic originally, not kill it
[11:32] <ladydoor> Ric1: ah, actually, go to Sanne's link
[11:32] <Ric1> 795 .. great
[11:32] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: no afaik,
[11:32] <LightTitan> Thank you ladydoor... I will watch my mouth now. Now if only I could get some help with my problem
[11:32] <Ric1> I'll try it right away :D
[11:32] <Sanne> ladydoor: :)
[11:32] <Vegeta> w30: Still the same. The error msg in Synaptic is: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[11:33] <Phiwum2> erUSUL: Too bad.  Thanks.
[11:33] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:33] <whazilla_> wrong versions
[11:33] <Gimbli> Good evening everybody
[11:33] <mooky> hello
[11:33] <w30> nozorro, maybe he has a zombie synaptic process running , if he kills all instances of synaptic then he can start a new one at the GUI
[11:33] <Nebular> ok I tried mounting the initrd with cramfs, got the error, wrong magic
[11:34] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: you can use ldd $(which <exec>) to see the libs a certain executable is linked to though
[11:34] <mooky> initrd isn't cramfs
[11:34] <Gimbli> hi mooky, how r u?
[11:34] <mooky> fine thank you
[11:34] <nozorro> w30: yes maybe
[11:34] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: usefull to see if postfix has ssl support (it will be linked to openssl)
[11:34] <goldfish> nearly there can see one machine now
[11:34] <nozorro> w30 but he didn't start synaptic (again) before i told him ...
[11:34] <Phiwum2> erUSUL: Thanks again.  I'll try that.
[11:35] <Nebular> mooky: that seems to be the case, what fs is it?
[11:35] <mooky> Nebular: not sure off the top of my head
[11:35] <mooky> ramfs ?
[11:35] <erUSUL> Phiwum2: no problem
[11:35] <mooky> goldfish: you can't have read the wiki yet
[11:35] <Phiwum2> erUSUL: And how do I determine which packages are installed and what they contain?
[11:36] <Gimbli> sorry, that i ask so directly, but has anybody experienced problems with the saving dialog in edgy's open office?
[11:36] <nozorro> w30: maybe he should use the sys monitor, it's the easiest thing to do
[11:36] <erUSUL> Nebular: i mounted my initrd with -t auto
[11:36] <nozorro> w30 want to take over?
[11:36] <ladydoor> Gimbli: #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <goldfish> no fiddling and trial and error
[11:36] <LightTitan> Trying to run Synaptic... all I get is this error: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file... anyone have any clue what is wrong?
[11:36] <Gimbli> oops, ok ;)
[11:36] <mooky> check your .xauth file
[11:36] <Frederick> does anyone here have magickwand installed and why able to link against it?
[11:36] <mooky> goldfish: PLEASE read the documentation
[11:36] <mooky> or stop asking
[11:37] <LightTitan> mooky, where is that and what would I be checking for?
[11:37] <whazilla_> how do i get kernel sources
[11:37] <Vegeta> nozorro and w30: I was running the installation of Sun Java but it crashed during the install, and I pressed the "x" and closed it, after that I couldn't open the synaptic or Add/remove...
[11:37] <whazilla_> but version i have ?
[11:37] <w30> nozorro, you are doing fine, everyone knows more than me :=)
[11:37] <mooky> LightTitan: home dir
[11:37] <whazilla_> allso got a apt-get issue
[11:37] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:37] <ladydoor> d
[11:37] <ladydoor> sorry
[11:37] <Nebular> erUSUL: my system keeps asking to have the fs specified
[11:38] <goldfish> sorted all works
[11:38] <nozorro> Vegeta: which program did you use for installation ?
[11:38] <Vegeta> nozorro:  I was installing it trhough Add/remove
[11:38] <vicscandl> iturk: gimme a minute to review... may be interrupted by mini-me getting up from his nap.
[11:38] <nozorro> Vegeta: pls pull up the sys monitor again
[11:38] <james296> how can I add more display resolutions to use on here using the terminal?
[11:39] <Vegeta> ok
[11:39] <Ric1> ladydoor / Sanne: It worked!
[11:39] <james296> you know that xorg.conf setup screen
[11:39] <Vegeta> I have it up
[11:39] <Nebular> erUSUL:  can you give me the exact syntax you're usung? and did you unzip the image or not (I've tried both ways)
[11:39] <[fields] > how do I verify my firewire card is working?
[11:39] <LightTitan> mooky, I just looked... there is no file there.
[11:39] <barata> shit .... my problem with mplayer is because I upgraded ubuntu
[11:39] <james296> well??
[11:39] <barata> now evertyhing is broken like shit
[11:39] <iturk> vicscandl: in pvt send me an email its much better to understand !!
[11:39] <mookid> Anyone know of any tutorials for getting amarok to run on ubuntu 64 ?
[11:39] <ubuntu> Some one have a clou how to upgrade xubuntu to ubuntu (i think i read this issue some where) so the link or page where i can find info should do the thing  Tnx in advance
[11:40] <Vegeta> nozorro: What to do there?
[11:40] <james296> can someone PLZ tell me?
[11:40] <mooky> probably why it can't copy it
[11:40] <vicscandl> iturk: you not get my /msg?
[11:40] <nozorro> Vegeta if you have synaptic running and can't close it from the dekstop in the normal way ...
[11:40] <stefg> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <mooky> mookid: should be setup the same as 32bit
[11:40] <w30> Vegeta, "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gnome-app-install" is running when you use the add application program
[11:40] <james296> hello?
[11:40] <nozorro> Vegeta: kill it from the process list (right-click)
[11:41] <ubuntu> tnx stefg
[11:41] <erUSUL> Nebular: the ones i was able to mount are the anes i create with mkinitrd the default ubuntu one is gzipped cpio archive
[11:41] <erUSUL> ones*
[11:41] <w30> Vegeta, use ps aux to see if you have a zombie running on that process
[11:41] <Jowi> what is the difference between prelink and preload?
[11:41] <LightTitan> mooky, I just looked... there is no file there.
[11:41] <mooky> as I said probably why it can't copy it
[11:41] <iturk> vicscandl: yes
[11:41] <james296> so how do I get to the setup screen to reset xorg.conf?
[11:41] <nozorro> w30: take over or wait it out pls. :-)
[11:42] <mooky> james296: dpkg-reconfiugre xserver-xorg
[11:42] <LightTitan> mooky, sorry I did not see that... so why did it just dissapear... should I make a blank one or what?
[11:42] <mooky> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:42] <Jowi> james296: put a "sudo" infront of it as well
[11:42] <fogos> someone knows a program to record video streaming
[11:42] <Vegeta> nozorro: Non of the ones you mentioned are listed...
[11:42] <mooky> LightTitan: its normally confiugred at xstart
[11:42] <foo> Hm, could I ghost a drive in knoppix with dd? dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. ?
[11:42] <mooky> x-start
[11:42] <Jowi> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:42] <LightTitan> mooky, so might a reboot take care of it?
[11:42] <nozorro> Vegeta: dpkg? apt? aptitude? adept?
[11:42] <smoked1> wow. I just installed ubuntu and got rid of that winbloze thing that I had and I have to say that they have done a great job. It works right out of the box on my laptop
[11:43] <mooky> LightTitan: possible
[11:43] <Vegeta> w30: IT gives me: 5577  0.0  0.1   2920   800 pts/4    R+   23:42   0:00 grep synaptic
[11:43] <nozorro> Vegeta also make sure you have All Processes checked under View in the Sys Monitor
[11:43] <fokuslee> !lspci
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <stefg> Jowi: AFAIK preload just aplies to Gnome (using boot-waits to preload gnome stuff) while prelink is setting the libraries up for all apps, so they are already linked when thy start..
[11:44] <w30> Vegeta, thats your grep process, no problem there synaptic is not running.
[11:44] <erUSUL> Nebular: you can "uncpio" it to see its contents afaik
[11:44] <GTX> Whats a good tool for monitoring how much bandwidth im using in SSH?
[11:44] <fokuslee> can anyone help me with lspci?
[11:44] <A-L-P-H-A> 'startx' won't start.  Says something about another session is in use, even though this is a fresh bootup.
[11:44] <mooky> mrtg ?
[11:44] <vicscandl> iturk: are you receiving my /msg's?
[11:44] <killown> how I get id high in amule?
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: what about lspci -v
[11:45] <Bee_Cue> hey im new to linux .. i was just trying to install ubuntu on my laptop with the cd .. it goes to about 80% .. then the screen goes black and there is 2 white rectangles and it just stays ... some help please
[11:45] <foo> Hm, could I ghost a drive in knoppix with dd? dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. ?
[11:45] <Vegeta> nozorro: Ok, I'm viewing them all now, I'll try to see if I can find some of the ones you mentioned.
[11:45] <fokuslee> jack sparrow can i message u a lspci read out?
[11:45] <mooky> foo: is this knoppix support ?
[11:45] <tronic> what was the package name with make in it
[11:45] <nozorro> Vegeta: kill'em
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[11:45] <foo> mooky: No. Is dd knoppix specific?
[11:45] <Jowi> stefg: ah, so preload is not for me (no gnome here). you know, or guess, how ld.so.preload-manager package are? is it linked to "preload" for gnome or is it self-contained?
[11:45] <mooky> foo: no its not
[11:46] <foo> mooky: Then? :P
[11:46] <stefg> Bee_Cue: are you positive that your CD is error-free?
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: Just put it in pastebin and someone will look at it
[11:46] <mooky> then ask in knoppix
[11:46] <mooky> or man it
[11:46] <tronic> theres a package you need to get to enable the 'make' command can anyone recall what it's called
[11:46] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone help me with installing a video driver?
[11:46] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:46] <Vegeta> nozorro: Should I seach under proces name or Parameter?
[11:46] <Bee_Cue> yea .. i ran that test first .. i could try again i guess
[11:46] <jerware> hi how do i get the man pages for C system calls/library calls ?
[11:46] <fokuslee> Jack what is pastebin?
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> dd is any distro
[11:46] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:46] <GTX> Whats a good tool for monitoring how much bandwidth im using in SSH?
[11:46] <whazilla_> this is a nopaste
[11:46] <nozorro> Vegeta process name of course if you want to see the name. you can sort the list at the top
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > fokuslee
[11:47] <mooky> GTX: mrtg
[11:47] <mooky> as I said earlier
[11:47] <fokuslee> !paste
[11:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:47] <GTX> I said in SSH mooky not httpd
[11:47] <fokuslee> thx
[11:47] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone help me out with installing a video driver?
[11:47] <mooky> you can use mrtg for any network service
[11:47] <GTX> Yes, but I want to have a live update per second in sssh
[11:47] <GTX> ssh*
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee:  You should have had a msg from Ubotu
[11:47] <jerware> how can a linux distro not have C call's man pages
[11:47] <mooky> ntop
[11:47] <whazilla_> mooky can u have a look at my package configuration
[11:48] <mooky> whazilla_: why ?
[11:48] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:48] <smoked1> Whats a good mail client? Is evolution mail the best one?
[11:48] <nozorro> Vegeta: another one to search for is gnome-app-install
[11:48] <stefg> Jowi: no clue... i just vaguely remember reading about preload a looonnnggg time ago and found that it's installed by default in ubuntu-dapper (to spped up gnome start)
[11:48] <fokuslee> yeah got it thx
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[11:48] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:48] <Bee_Cue> so anyone know? .. cuz my windows doesnt work now either :(
[11:48] <fokuslee> and how do i talk to u
[11:48] <whazilla_> it says configuration errors and i don't kno what todo about
[11:48] <Nebular> erUSUL:  ok I don't have uncpio. basically what I'm trying to do is run bootcdwrite. but it needs you to run bootcdmkinitrd. and that causes my system to start usin discoaver which takes 15+ minuts (it's old). I'm trying to avoid making a new initrd with the bootcd script
[11:48] <smoked1> most features
[11:48] <fokuslee> i mean when u talk to me it says jack-sparrow fokuslee
[11:48] <fokuslee> i want to do dat too
[11:48] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone help me out with installing a video driver?
[11:48] <mooky> whazilla_: put the configuration errors in the pastebin
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: Just post the link in here when you are done and someone will look at it
[11:48] <Jowi> stefg: ok. thanks for the info. I will make some research :)
[11:48] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jvA4cN51.html
[11:48] <GTX> mooky. Installed now what
[11:49] <mooky> GTX - run it ?
[11:49] <mooky> perhaps read up on it before using it /
[11:49] <GTX> I have..
[11:49] <fokuslee> yeah thx
[11:49] <GTX> Where I view it?
[11:49] <fokuslee> but now did u do that
[11:49] <fokuslee> i mean just talk to me with my name after urs
[11:49] <erUSUL> Nebular: is 'cpio --extract -I initrd.img' (once you have gunzipped it)
[11:49] <whazilla_> mooky u seen the link ?
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> fokuslee: It is called tab completion...  type the first few letters and hit tab
[11:49] <mooky> yes
[11:49] <fokuslee> oh thx
[11:49] <erUSUL> Nebular: do it in an empty temp directory
[11:49] <fokuslee> Jack_Sparrow,
[11:49] <fokuslee> i c i c
[11:49] <fokuslee> lol thx
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:49] <mooky> whazilla_: sorry - I can't read your langauge
[11:49] <Nebular> cool, thanks
[11:50] <Vegeta> nozorro: I can't find any of them. But on process called getty are listed 6 times? Is that normal?
[11:50] <whazilla_> :$
[11:50] <whazilla_> it's all semi englisch
[11:50] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone tell me what kernel modules I might be needing to install a video driver?  Im trying to install one, and it says it cant install without the latest kernel modules.
[11:50] <whazilla_> all importent stuff is englisch
[11:50] <stefg> Vegeta: yes, 6 terminals is standard for linux
[11:50] <foo> Can I ghost a hard drive with dd? I am doing dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 ...
[11:50] <mooky> whazilla_: no its not
[11:50] <nozorro> Vegeta: the getty processes are normal. they open your virtual consoles
[11:50] <mooky> foo: ask in knoppix
[11:50] <mooky> as requested
[11:50] <mooky> or man dd
[11:50] <whazilla_> just look @ error
[11:50] <Vegeta> ok
[11:50] <mooky> as requested
[11:50] <foo> mooky: I'm on ubuntu
[11:50] <mooky> whazilla_: I just have - hence why I'm telling you
[11:50] <lupine_85> foo: should work fine
[11:50] <mooky> foo: then why are you asking about knoppix
[11:50] <whazilla_> kk
[11:51] <foo> lupine_85: Thanks, that's the reasurrance I needed.
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> PhantasyHawk: What video card, different people have different experience with the different cards.. ATI and Nvidia are the most popular
[11:51] <lupine_85> rdiff would be a better way to do it, though
[11:51] <smoked1> What mail client do you guys use with Ubuntu?
[11:51] <lupine_85> incremental backups++
[11:51] <mooky> whazilla_: I can't understand the language
[11:51] <foo> mooky: Because I felt like it? Dude, dd isn't knoppix specific. Chill
[11:51] <mooky> foo: so ask in knoppix
[11:51] <whazilla_> i'll pastebin the importent stuff
[11:51] <nozorro> Vegeta: pls do this in a terminal 'ls -la /var/lib/dpkg/lock' and tell me the output
[11:51] <mooky> this isn't knoppix support
[11:51] <foo> mooky: I did.
[11:51] <PhantasyHawk> Jack: Its a stock intel card
[11:51] <mooky> whazilla_: I can see what you've pasted
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> I810
[11:51] <mooky> but I can't understand it
[11:51] <foo> lupine_85: Same command, eh? No extra params? I don't thinkn so
[11:51] <mooky> foo: man it !
[11:51] <mooky> or ask in knoppix
[11:51] <lupine_85> smoked1: thunderbird :)
[11:52] <mooky> this isn't knoppix support
[11:52] <foo> mooky: I asked in knoppix.
[11:52] <lupine_85> foo: true enough
[11:52] <foo> heh
[11:52] <foo> lupine_85: thanks
[11:52] <smoked1> lupine_85, thanks I think I will give that one a shot
[11:52] <lupine_85> mooky: distro turf wars are a bit silly, don't you think?
[11:52] <Vegeta> nozorro: The output:  -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2006-09-09 23:50 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:52] <mooky> lupine_85: this channel is busy enough with knoppix support without people asking for knoppix support in here
[11:52] <mooky> its not turf wars, its respecting the topic in the channel
[11:52] <dragonriot> anyone here done a 2.6.17.13 kernel yet today??
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> If someone has a question about dd, I dont care what distro he is using..
[11:53] <barata> did the last official upgrade also upgrade jackd
[11:53] <foo> haha.
[11:53] <finalbeta>  Someone knows a tool like wget that can download from ftp but supports SSL?
[11:53] <whazilla_> k mooky ... but error == fout and ongeconfigureerd == unconfigured
[11:53] <whazilla_> that's only important words
[11:53] <whazilla_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/jz4vhx51.html
[11:53] <mooky> whazilla_: why are you not listening - I can't understand the language
[11:53] <PhantasyHawk> Jack: Its an integrated intel graphics card - I have all the drivers untarred, but I get an error message when I try to install - it says it cant find a kernel config file
[11:53] <mooky> and thats NOT the only important line
[11:53] <whazilla_> i'll translate
[11:53] <foo> lupine_85: Thanks. It's not outputing anything. I was trying to find a verbose mode in the man page, no go. Blah. It's a 20GB drive
[11:54] <nozorro> Vegeta: ok do this and then post the resulting text file to pastebin. if you don't know pastebin, ask me first for a link. this is the command to do in a terminal: 'ps aux > processes.txt'
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> PhantasyHawk: Did you search the Ubuntu Wiki for intel vido info..
[11:54] <smoked1> I am new to linux. Would it be unwise to remove evolution mail?
[11:54] <lupine_85> foo: you can send a SIGHUP (IIRC) to it to get it to print out it's status
[11:54] <mooky> smoked1: depends if you want to connect to outlook
[11:54] <lupine_85> might not be a SIGHUP, though
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE_> can anyone name any good freeware games like tremulous
[11:54] <foo> lupine_85: oh, hmm
[11:54] <mooky> exachange sorry
[11:54] <lupine_85> google knows :)
[11:54] <smoked1> Why the hell would I want to do that?
[11:54] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE_: enemy territory
[11:54] <stefg> smoked1: no, actually it's wise to get rid of it :-)
[11:54] <lupine_85> enemy territory++
[11:54] <smoked1> exchange servers are the devil
[11:54] <fokuslee> Paddy_EIRE, forzen bubbles
[11:54] <PhantasyHawk> Jack: Thats where I got links to drivers and basic information - the only information it has on install is just the command to run the install file, it assumes everything will go fine
[11:55] <lupine_85> turned into true combat: elite - +++++++++++++==
thats freeware? and it runs on Ubuntu??
[11:55] <smoked1> give me postfix over exchange any day
[11:55] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE_: freeware, GPL and works perfectluy
[11:55] <mooky> smoked1: ok - this isn't a "show how leet I am"
[11:55] <whazilla_> http://www.worldlingo.com/SH0gfCf2o9dNAktaqxFD0LIgenNjuBqms/translate
[11:55] <jared777> This is by far the best distribution so far I am in love with the package manager if only I could play all my games on it
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE_>  <lupine_85>cool
[11:55] <lupine_85> true combat: elite is more realistic, though - so more fun (in my eyes!)
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> no i havent
[11:56] <whazilla_> mooky u c translate above ?
[11:56] <smoked1> mooky, ok then Ill use exchange just for you :(
[11:56] <Paddy_EIRE> how come it says i quit :/
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> PhantasyHawk: Is this whay you typed in terminal  # sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[11:56] <Vegeta> nozorro: Should I just copy the result from the terminal? Because I don't know where the txt is..
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> what
[11:56] <Sanne> PhantasyHawk: to compile a kernel-module, you'll need some kernel source files, called the headers. Search for the package name with: apt-cache search linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:56] <Vegeta> nozorro: nvm i find it
[11:56] <Vegeta> found*
[11:56] <mooky> smoked1: I wasn't asking you to use exchange, you asked if its wise - I said depends if you want to use it, you then went off on a "microsoft is the devil speach"
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> PhantasyHawk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[11:57] <smoked1> :(
[11:57] <nozorro> Vegeta: txt file should be in current working directory, probably home dir. you can also post the output, just make absolutely sure the *entire* output
[11:57] <Vegeta> nozorro: Can you provide link to pastebin, I dont have it..
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > Vegeta
[11:57] <foo> lupine_85: Hm, any ideas on how long this might take? It's a 20GB drive ... about 1GB free.
[11:57] <PhantasyHawk> Thanks Jack and Sanne - Ill try out your suggestions and get back to you in a few
[11:57] <mooky> depends on your bus speed
[11:57] <nozorro> Vegeta: look for what comes next after my nick: ...
[11:57] <nozorro> !pastebin
[11:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:57] <nozorro> Vegeta: got it?
[11:58] <whazilla_> http://www.worldlingo.com/SH0gfCf2o9dNAktaqxFD0LIgenNjuBqms/translate mooky in englisch
[11:58] <Vegeta> nozorro: Yeah, but the wired ting is that the txt file is empty
[11:58] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: yes freeware and runs in ubuntu
[11:58] <fokuslee> Vegeta, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.or
[11:58] <fokuslee> Vegeta, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:58] <whazilla_> crap i hate worldlingo
[11:58] <dragonriot> anyone here other than myself running ubuntu on a zd8000 laptop?
[11:58] <nozorro> Vegeta: really? then post the entire output of 'ps aux'
 thats pretty damn cool
[11:59] <ladydoor> so when i'm trying to use gnomebaker to burn some ogg files to an audio cd i get an error telling me i don't have the proper plugin installed; i get the same error for a wav file. when i did apt-cache search gnomebaker, gnomebaker itself was the only package that came up
 i love that game
[11:59] <Sanne> PhantasyHawk: I just read (as you probably also are) that you won't need the headers, because appearantly your driver is available in the dapper repositories.
[11:59] <lupine_85>  foo: using dd - probably most of the night
[12:00] <Nebular> erUSUL:  ok tried that, got the error --link is meaningless with --extract
[12:00] <jared777> wohoo my flash drive still works after going through the washer
[12:00] <lupine_85> if you used rdiff, about the same amount of time the first time round... future passes would be much, much faster
[12:00] <ladydoor> and libvorbis & libvorbis-dev are both installed, of course
[12:00] <lupine_85> (hence why I prefer it :) )
[12:00] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/
[12:00] <Vegeta> nozorro: Here is a link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23023
[12:00] <smoked1> When I try to remove evolution mail from synaptic it tells me that it will also remove ubuntu-desktop. I am quite sure that I want to keep that.
[12:00] <bluefusionxl> !source-o-matic
[12:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:00] <PhantasyHawk> Sanne: Yeah, I just read that, but when I tried that command, I got an error message after it worked for a few seconds
[12:00] <nozorro> Vegeta: ok, now let me have a close look and wait pls.
[12:00] <lupine_85> smoked1: it's a metapackage. quite safe to remove
[12:00] <[fields] > I just installed a Firewire card.  How can I tell that its recognized?  Can anyone recommend DV Camcorder capture software?