[01:13] <LaserJock> hi Amaranth 
[09:30] <edgarin__> Hi to all
[09:30] <edgarin__> some people with LTSP?
[09:36] <Burgundavia> edgarin__: it what way?
[12:09] <cbx33> ping Seveas
[12:10] <Seveas> pong cbx33 
[12:10] <cbx33> Seveas I've been trying to get a working usplash,kwwii told me that it's broken at the mo
[12:11] <Seveas> what is broken? usplash itself or your theme?
[12:11] <cbx33> I havnt made a theme
[12:11] <cbx33> I was trying to view the new edgy theme
[12:11] <cbx33> but i just get the test screen
[12:11] <ogra> cbx33, i have a working one here but the graphics are pretty ugly (didnt put any time into it, just dropped the logo on a black background and indexed that)
[12:12] <ogra> my prob is that the usplash theme creation in all packages we have uses a hardcoded Makefile instead of an automake generated one ...
[12:12] <ogra> edubuntu artwork uses automake ...
[12:13] <ogra> dunno who decided such a sillyness ...
[12:14] <cbx33> oh
[12:14] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:14] <cbx33> ok...
[12:14] <cbx33> where is teh position of the progress bar set etc?
[12:14] <ogra> i need to put some time into rewriting the Makefile.am
[12:15] <cbx33> and is there a screen shot of the new edgy one?
[12:15] <ogra> in the .c file 
[12:15] <cbx33> ah right
[12:15] <cbx33> I just want to make sure ours fits the theme
[12:15] <ogra> i just grabbed the kde one and replaced the pngs
[12:15] <cbx33> if you know what I mean ;)
[12:15] <cbx33> right ok
[12:15] <ogra> it needs color adjustments, but works fine that way
[12:15] <cbx33> ok cool
[12:16] <cbx33> is that
[12:16] <cbx33> kde-artwork-usplash ?
[12:16] <ogra> you can then just run make in the dir and it creates the theme file
[12:16] <ogra> yep
[12:16] <cbx33> ogra, dude, you gonna be available today?
[12:16] <ogra> btw, i'm using your wallpaper since friday
[12:16] <cbx33> ;)
[12:16] <cbx33> nice?
[12:16] <ogra> we should drop the stripes ...
[12:16] <cbx33> you think?
[12:16] <ogra> and make the logo wy less prominent 
[12:16] <ogra> *way
[12:16] <cbx33> ok
[12:17] <cbx33> I'll change now and show you
[12:17] <ogra> make it smaller, move it to the right and add a bit transparency or something, so it doesnt stick so much in your face
[12:17] <ogra> also the color makes it hard to read icon captions ...
[12:18] <ogra> they somehow disappera in the background ...
[12:18] <cbx33> hmm
[12:18] <cbx33> ok
[12:19] <cbx33> I'll pastelise it a little
[12:19] <ogra> but i like the text and molecules ... we should add a bit more organic stuff 
[12:19] <cbx33> yeh i thought that
[12:19] <cbx33> got anything in mind
[12:19] <ogra> do you know these drawing in botanic books ? 
[12:20] <ogra> like a pencil drawing of a butterfly slightly faded or something like that
[12:20] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:20] <cbx33> yes I know what you mean
[12:20] <cbx33> off you go then....ogra you can draw the butterfly ;)
[12:20] <ogra> i thought about just grabbing a photo and potrace that 
[12:20] <ogra> might also be a flower ...
[12:21] <ogra> something living ...
[12:21] <cbx33> www.progbox.co.uk/edu-art/
[12:22] <cbx33> number 3 ?
[12:22] <ogra> a lot better 
[12:22] <cbx33> ok
[12:22] <cbx33> I'll get a pic of a flower and trace it
[12:22] <ogra> remember that we need some space at the bottom for the panel
[12:22] <cbx33> yes
[12:22] <cbx33> I'll putt it up a little later 
[12:22] <cbx33> s/putt/pull
[12:22] <ogra> so the logo should move up some px
[12:22] <ogra> right
[12:22] <cbx33> um
[12:22] <cbx33> can I ask you about the manga one
[12:23] <ogra> sure
[12:23] <cbx33> what did you want changed ;)
[12:23] <ogra> well, no idea
[12:23] <cbx33> heheh
[12:23] <ogra> might be fine as is
[12:23] <cbx33> are we ok to use for now?
[12:23] <cbx33> we can tweak later for sure
[12:23] <ogra> sure
[12:23] <cbx33> does our usplash have to follow the same format as the others?
[12:23] <cbx33> sorry
[12:23] <ogra> and its still the alternate one, so we have more freedom here
[12:23] <cbx33> not usplash
[12:24] <cbx33> gdm splash
[12:24] <ogra> dunno, i havent seen the others :)
[12:24] <cbx33> hehe
[12:24] <cbx33> the other thing was....ubuntu, not sure about klubuntu has had its log redrawn
[12:24] <cbx33> logo
[12:25] <cbx33> http://silentkeystroke.deviantart.com/gallery/
[12:25] <ogra> lest stick with the logo as is ...
[12:25] <cbx33> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/5751652/?qo=61&q=by%3Asilentkeystroke+sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
[12:25] <ogra> we could probably revive the http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/dapper_art/gnome-splash.png splash
[12:25] <cbx33> may trace some of that one ;)
[12:25] <ogra> it would fit with your color selection
[12:25] <cbx33> yes
[12:26] <ogra> the flower looks nice ... but seems very complex to trace ...
[12:26] <cbx33> well
[12:26] <cbx33> I was gonna cheat a little
[12:26] <cbx33> get photoshop to trace it
[12:26] <cbx33> ;)
[12:27] <cbx33> oooh looks good
[12:27] <cbx33> hang on I'll incorporate
[12:28] <ogra> i could get you a ton of this kind: http://www.tragwerk.org/kunstsyn/GALERIEN/7_FOTO/BIG/13.jpg
[12:29] <ogra> looks good sounds good :)
[12:29] <cbx33> I'll show you in a tick
[12:29] <cbx33> how long are you around for today dude ;)
[12:29] <ogra> only from time to time 
[12:29] <ogra> i have to do some stuff on the house ...
[12:31] <cbx33> ok
[12:31] <cbx33> so
[12:32] <cbx33> can I just clarify a few things
[12:32] <cbx33> before you go
[12:32] <cbx33> young wallpaper, sorted for now
[12:32] <cbx33> higher ed wallpaper, I'm just making a lst change to
[12:33] <cbx33> ogra check out number 4 on that page
[12:33] <cbx33> did you like the splash images lisa did...on the wiki?
[12:33] <cbx33> we shall work on the gdm login screen
[12:33] <cbx33> and usplash
[12:34] <ogra> yep, i liked them
[12:34] <cbx33> so are we good to work around them?
[12:34] <cbx33> any comments suggestions ?
[12:34] <ogra> yup, i think so ...
[12:34] <ogra> loo up the meeting log where we did the voting ...
[12:34] <ogra> *look
[12:35] <cbx33> ok
[12:35] <ogra> the flower looks beautiful
[12:35] <cbx33> ;) thanks
[12:35] <ogra> but i dont like the position ...
[12:35] <cbx33> ok
[12:35] <ogra> the pic gets too much weight to the bottom left
[12:35] <cbx33> suggest ;)
[12:36] <ogra> dunno ... top and right art quite empty ...
[12:36] <ogra> probably just move all the stuff a bit up and right suffices
[12:36] <cbx33> ok
[12:36] <cbx33> if the photo idea for gdm login doesn't work
[12:36] <cbx33> we'll try something else...
[12:37] <cbx33> did you have any speficic ideas for that and usplash?
[12:38] <cbx33> ogra the kbuntu one you referenced earlier
[12:38] <cbx33> is it just the blue kubuntu and blue throbber?
[12:38] <cbx33> not much else on the page? - all black?
[12:39] <ogra> right
[12:39] <cbx33> did you want us to follow that
[12:39] <cbx33> or be a little more inventive?
[12:40] <cbx33> like not a black screen ;)
[12:41] <cbx33> what do you tink?
[12:41] <ogra> well, all we have is golden/yellow ... if you have a nice idea that fits 256 cols and looks slick ....
[12:41] <cbx33> ok
[12:43] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu-splash.so thats the quick and dirty one i made 
[12:43] <cbx33> ok
[12:43] <cbx33> ogra did you like the gdm login screens we did already?
[12:46] <ogra> yes, but its not about me :)
[12:46] <cbx33> i know
[12:46] <cbx33> but if you're happy it means we can run with it as a prelim
[12:46] <cbx33> right ;)
[12:49] <ogra> as a prelim i'D just pick a random one blindly from the wiki :P
[12:49] <cbx33> heh
[12:49] <cbx33> oi :0
[12:53] <ogra> if you plan to use the wallpaper drawings in gdm, could you send me a cropped version without wallpaper background ? i can try to make that work in ldm with a solid background color 
[12:54] <cbx33> ok sure
[12:55] <cbx33> we can use a png in ldm can't we?
[12:55] <ogra> yep
[12:55] <ogra> with transparency
[12:55] <ogra> but it has to be as small as possible
[12:55] <cbx33> hehe
[12:55] <cbx33> i gathered that
[12:55] <ogra> ldm is slow enoug on its own ... big pics will slow it down more
[12:55] <cbx33> that's what I was goign to say ;)
[12:56] <cbx33> well, I hope to have all the prelim artowkr done by late this afternoon
[12:56] <cbx33> I'll probably create a deb so I can test it out
[12:56] <ogra> cool
[12:56] <ogra> yup
[12:56] <cbx33> I was going to take the one already there, hack it up and replace images then build
[12:57] <cbx33> do i need to build a source pacakge and then the proper package for artwork ;)
[12:57] <cbx33> excuse my ignorance here ;)
[12:58] <ogra> yes
[01:06] <cbx33> ogra what new icons did we need to create
[01:06] <cbx33> willow
[01:07] <cbx33> SCP ?
[01:08] <ogra> SCP has one 
[01:08] <ogra> we should drop the header image in edgy+1 and think about a sane menu or toolbar ...
[01:09] <cbx33> yes
[01:09] <ogra> willow needs one, but thats easy
[01:09] <cbx33> that sounds like einen gut idea
[01:09] <cbx33> lisa is gonna do one
[01:09] <ogra> take a globe and put a lock on the bottom right corner
[01:09] <cbx33> any others?
[01:09] <ogra> (or something like that)
[01:09] <ogra> not from the top of my head
[01:09] <cbx33> ogra to build the usplash what did you say to do...
[01:10] <ogra> but if there are icons missing, thats a bug, we still have until release to fix bugs ;)
[01:10] <ogra> run make in the dir where the pngs lie
[01:10] <cbx33> ograsure
[01:10] <cbx33> so I get the edubuntu-artwork-usplash ?
[01:10] <ogra> and replace all occurences of kubuntu with edubuntu in the MAkefile
[01:10] <cbx33> ah
[01:10] <ogra> (and the .c files)
[01:11] <cbx33> doesn't the edubuntu-uplash build yet?
[01:13] <ogra> ??
[01:13] <cbx33> sorry
[01:13] <cbx33> I have all the images now
[01:13] <cbx33> did you say get the kubuntu package and build the .so
[01:13] <ogra> thats what i did
[01:14] <ogra> and i replaced the pngs ... nothing else 
[01:14] <cbx33> where do i place that file to test it?
[01:14] <ogra> that gives you a blue progress bar though
[01:14] <cbx33> i have new throbber pngs ;)
[01:14] <ogra> look at /etc/alternatives/uspash-artwork.so
[01:14] <cbx33> ok cool
[01:14] <cbx33> thanks
[01:14] <ogra> that wont help, you need the right hex codes for the colors in the .c file
[01:15] <cbx33> oh, i thought Dennis said we use images now
[01:15] <cbx33> theres the fore and background
[01:15] <ogra> i have red progressbars as well, but the make turns them blue ... :)
[01:15] <cbx33> oh
[01:15] <cbx33> :(
[01:15] <cbx33> how odd
[01:15] <ogra> no, the colors are defined in hex codes in the .c file
[01:15] <cbx33> so what are the pngs for?
[01:15] <ogra> they need to be adjusted to match ours
[01:15] <ogra> the shape i think
[01:17] <TeePOG> good morning
[01:18] <cbx33> where does pngtousplash come from?
[01:18] <cbx33> hi TeePOG
[01:19] <ogra> cbx33, usplash-dev
[01:19] <TeePOG> hi cbx33
[01:19] <cbx33> heheh yup
[01:19] <cbx33> just figured that out
[01:19] <cbx33> wow...google had nothing on that binary ;)
[01:24] <cbx33> ogra I don;t have an /etc/alternatives/   usplash anything
[01:24] <TeePOG> tell me, does sound work remotely over ltsp?
[01:25] <cbx33> i don't have edubutu-usplash installed
[01:25] <ogra> yes
[01:25] <cbx33> would that be it?
[01:25] <ogra> likely
[01:26] <ogra> i have no idea where its installed originally ...
[01:26] <cbx33> ok
[01:26] <cbx33> I'm sorting it now ;)
[01:27] <cbx33> got it
[01:27] <ogra> TeePOG, you need to add SOUND=True to your lts.conf file
[01:28] <TeePOG> ok ogra, and then it detects your soundcard?
[01:28] <cbx33> ogra why is that not enabled by default?
[01:28] <ogra> thats a kernel thing that happens anyway
[01:28] <cbx33> just outta interest ?
[01:28] <ogra> SOUND=True just starts the infrastructure on top of the soundcard :)
[01:28] <ogra> cbx33, not yet ... we'll ship an lts.conf in edgy
[01:29] <cbx33> ;)
[01:29] <cbx33> ahhh
[01:29] <cbx33> so that's why ;)
[01:29] <ogra> including enables locald devices, network swap 16bit colors and sound
[01:30] <TeePOG> is that the one in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf ?
[01:30] <ogra> no
[01:30] <ogra> you need to create one ...
[01:30] <TeePOG> ahhh ok
[01:30] <ogra> sudo gedit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
[01:31] <ogra> add the following two lines:
[01:31] <ogra> [default] 
[01:31] <ogra> SOUND=True
[01:31] <cbx33> whhaaa !
[01:31] <ogra> thats  it ... on next boot your client will have sound
[01:31] <cbx33> that's not right
[01:31] <TeePOG> hmm, ok
[01:31] <cbx33> I just changed the symlink in the /etc/alternatives but it didn;t work
[01:32] <ogra> eeek
[01:32] <ogra> dont ever touch /etc/alternatives by hand
[01:32] <cbx33> but but but
[01:32] <cbx33> :(
[01:32] <ogra> replace the image it links to ;)
[01:32] <cbx33> ok#
[01:33] <ogra> (make a backup to restore later)
[01:33] <ogra> or use the proper update-alternatives comamndline to add your image)
[01:38] <cbx33> ogra
[01:38] <cbx33> I can't understand this
[01:38] <cbx33> by default I have a circular resolution in the usplash
[01:38] <ogra> circular resolution ?
[01:38] <cbx33> did you install the kubuntu-usplash package?
[01:38] <ogra> no
[01:39] <ogra> i just replaced /usr/lib/usplash/edubuntu-splash.so with my generated image file
[01:39] <cbx33> ok
[01:41] <cbx33> ok
[01:41] <cbx33> but
[01:42] <cbx33> in that folder I have a file that points back to the /etc/alternatives again
[01:42] <cbx33> ?
[01:42] <cbx33> do you?
[01:42] <cbx33> usplash-artwork.so
[01:43] <ogra> yes
[01:43] <cbx33> and where does that point?
[01:43] <ogra> for me to /usr/lib/usplash/edubuntu-splash.so
[01:44] <cbx33> oh
[01:44] <cbx33> for me not
[01:44] <cbx33> I shall sort it out
[01:44] <ogra> no idea whats the default here
[01:44] <ogra> i dont have any plain ubuntu system around atm
[01:44] <cbx33> ok
[01:45] <ogra> but i guess you wont have an alternative at all in a default ubuntu
[01:47] <cbx33> no
[01:47] <cbx33> it's ok I think I got it
[01:54] <cbx33> I screwed it up
[01:54] <cbx33> :(
[01:54] <cbx33> gonna reinstall edubuntu ;)
[01:57] <jsgotangco> heh
[01:59] <jsgotangco> hey jono
[02:01] <jono> hey
[02:01] <jsgotangco> sorry to hear about the puppy :/ love dogs myself
[02:08] <TeePOG> ciao all
[02:08] <TeePOG> bbl
[02:22] <ogra> oh man
[02:23] <jono> thanks all :)
[02:34] <cbx33> i just did something mega stupid
[02:34] <cbx33> in my haste to fix artwork...I reformatted my laptop
[02:34] <cbx33> erasing entire disk
[02:34] <cbx33> :(
[02:34] <cbx33> heheeh
[02:34] <cbx33> the data isn't critical but would be nice to get it back....once edubutnu has finished installing
[02:35] <cbx33> anyone know of any data recovery tools ;)
[02:39] <ogra> if oyu already formatted the chances are very bad to get stuff back
[03:11] <edgarin> Hi to all
[03:22] <jsgotangco> hello
[04:14] <bddebian> Hello
[04:14] <Yagisan> cbx33, it is hard (and expensive ) to recover that data
[04:14] <jsgotangco> hey bddebian
[04:14] <bddebian> Hi Yagisan and jsgotangco
[04:15] <Yagisan> G'day bddebian, jsgotangco 
[04:15] <Yagisan> cbx33, best thing to do next time, is to dd an image of the disk
[04:15] <Yagisan> and we can try to recover the data from the image
[05:24] <annma> hi
[05:25] <STORMCHAS3R_> morning
[05:26] <annma> are you the STORMCHAS3R_ I know?
[05:27] <STORMCHAS3R_> annma, I doubt it
[05:28] <STORMCHAS3R_> :)
[05:28] <annma> OK
[05:28] <annma> ;)
[05:28] <annma> I am the KDE-Edu maintainer
[05:28] <STORMCHAS3R_> w0w, nice to meet you
[05:28] <annma> that's why I poped here
[05:29] <STORMCHAS3R_> sweet
[05:29] <STORMCHAS3R_> edubuntu rox
[05:29] <annma> yes, it would be good if we collaborate more closely
[05:30] <STORMCHAS3R_> right, i just wish there was a version geared more to high school/college
[05:30] <annma> we'd like to know for example if you have feedback from teachers
[05:31] <annma> you mean more edu apps for high school?
[05:31] <annma> yes, it would be nice to have several "flavours" of edubuntu depending on the age
[05:31] <STORMCHAS3R_> annma, that and wallpapers and such
[05:31] <annma> yes
[05:31] <annma> are you an edubuntu collaborator?
[05:32] <STORMCHAS3R_> would like to be
[05:33] <STORMCHAS3R_> I am trying to push linux in education
[05:33] <annma> :)
[05:34] <pygi> annma, what kind of colaboration would you have in mind? :)
[05:34] <annma> is there someone here whom I can contact regarding a colaboration?
[05:35] <STORMCHAS3R_> pygi, lol
[05:37] <STORMCHAS3R_> does anyone know the "Industry trends and Future Implications" with OSS?
[05:40] <annma> pygi: well, improving our KDE-Edu programs 
[05:40] <annma> you will have feedback probably from schools
[05:40] <annma> or teachers
[05:40] <cbx33> ogra buddy u sure you didn;t do anything else?
[05:40] <pygi> annma, I think ogra is the guy you mostly wanna speak with, but I think everyone here might give you opinions
[05:40] <cbx33> i just did a fresh edubuntu install
[05:40] <annma> you also may have nice ideas
[05:41] <cbx33> but it's not working
[05:41] <annma> pygi: OK, thanks
[05:41] <pygi> annma, I would suggest you mail the edubuntu-devel list
[05:41] <pygi> that's the best you could do
[05:42] <annma> OK
[05:42] <annma> excelelnt
[05:43] <annma> found the link, great
[05:43] <cbx33> ping Seveas
[05:47] <STORMCHAS3R_> how do you set up a workstation to use LTSP, and could it be used as a diskless client?
[05:50] <stormbuntu> !ltsp
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ltsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <sbalneav> Morning all
[05:52] <stormbuntu> morn
[05:56] <bddebian> pygi: Still here?
[05:57] <pygi> bddebian, kinda yes
[05:57] <cbx33> hey bddebian
[05:57] <cbx33> hi pygi
[05:57] <bddebian> Hi cbx33
[05:57] <pygi> hi cbx33 
[05:57] <pygi> what you broke this time? :)
[05:57] <pygi> how may I help you bddebian ?
[05:57] <bddebian> pygi: Need to add $(THREAD_LIBS) to libburn_libburn_foo_LDADD in Makefile.am! :-)
[05:58] <cbx33> heheh
[05:58] <cbx33> usplash
[05:58] <bddebian> pygi: Also, wtf are the package config files?
[05:58] <pygi> bddebian, ahm, what do you mean?
[05:58] <pygi> why would I add anything to Makefile.am?
[06:00] <bddebian> Because it's broken? :-)
[06:01] <pygi> bddebian, what exactly is broken?
[06:01] <pygi> it all builds fine for me?
[06:01] <bddebian> libburn_libburn_la_LDFLAGS = $(THREAD_LIBS) \
[06:02] <bddebian> When I build it in pbuilder, it doesn't -lpthread for some reason
[06:02] <pygi> bleh, patch so I can see what are you talking about and explanation why you wanna change it? 
[06:02] <bddebian> Anyway, the biggest thing holding me up are the package config files
[06:02] <pygi> bleh, weird :-/
[06:03] <pygi> bddebian, pbuilder complaining or anything? what? why dont you poke motu people?
[06:04] <bddebian> Becuase you asked me to package it? :-)
[06:04] <pygi> lol, right, but -motu people are experts, I'm not :-)
[06:04] <pygi> I told you not to worry, if it's a problem don't do it :)
[06:05] <bddebian> No it's not a problem, I just thought maybe you'd know :-)
[06:06] <pygi> I know nothing :)
[06:10] <bddebian> Bah
[06:11] <pygi> bddebian, what?
[06:11] <bddebian> OK, I'll play with it this afternoon.  I have to head out for a while
[06:11] <bddebian> I meant "Bah" that you know nothing :-)
[06:11] <pygi> enjoy and don't worry, just stop doing it ^_^
[06:11] <pygi> I'll package it one day ^-^
[06:11] <bddebian> It's a pride thing at this point :-)
[06:12] <bddebian> OK, gotta run, laterz
[06:23] <cbx33> ograit ist broken
[06:23] <cbx33> ogra i managed to break usplash
[06:24] <cbx33> my machine doesnt even boot now
[07:19] <ogra> cbx33, so boot without the splash parameter, then it isnt started
[07:37] <cbx33> ogra didn;t know you could do that
[07:52] <sbalneav> ogra!
[07:52] <sbalneav> Hey dude!
[07:52] <ogra> hey
[07:53] <sbalneav> You know there's a problem with xkeyboard-config?  It now depends on xkb-data, but that isn't in a metapackage somewhere
[07:53] <ogra> its already fixed ...
[07:53] <sbalneav> so an ltsp-build-client fails.
[07:53] <sbalneav> ah, cool.
[07:53] <ogra> waiting on the new package to be done
[07:53] <sbalneav> You are teh star
[07:53] <sbalneav> ctl-alt-f switching's fixed now, btw
[07:54] <ogra> there is a bunch of other breakage i wanted to fix today, but due to the breakage i culdnt
[07:54] <ogra> (like having an empty /etc/nbd-clietn to make vagrants nbdswapd work)
[07:55] <sbalneav> Due to breakages, you couldn't fix breakages?  Recursion, dude!
[07:55] <ogra> hehe
[07:55] <sbalneav> Time to calculate some fibonnacci sequences!
[07:55] <sbalneav> What flavour?
[07:55] <ogra> <- afk for a while :)
[07:55] <ogra> spaghetti :)
[07:55] <sbalneav> Spaghetti??!?!
[07:56] <ogra> hehe
[07:57] <ogra> on the bottom there is about 1/3 freozen cream then they press vanilla ice through something like a big sieve ... 
[07:57] <ogra> so it looks like spaghetti
[07:57] <ogra> and on top there is strawberry marmelade with white chocolate on top
[07:57] <sbalneav> Yum
[08:14] <Rondom> spaghetti-ice doesn't seem to be that popular...
[08:16] <ogra> not outside of germany )
[08:16] <ogra> :)
[08:17] <sbalneav> ogra: I noticed blender wasn't in edubuntu anymore.  Any reason for the demotion to Universe?
[08:17] <ogra> a hard ffmpeg dependency
[08:18] <sbalneav> ah, patents.
[08:18] <ogra> it cant keep it in main without breaking half of its functionallity
[08:18] <ogra> (its possible to build it without ffmpeg, but that cripples it a lot)
[08:27] <cbx33> ogra can you test
[08:27] <cbx33> these images for me
[08:28] <cbx33> in usplash
[08:28] <ogra> sbalneav, ltsp-build-client works fine again 
[08:30] <ogra> cbx33, a bit later ... my GF wants me for some sunday evening stuff ...
[08:30] <sbalneav> ogra: Stooper-doope.
[08:31] <sbalneav> s/.$/r./
[08:31] <cbx33> ogra soudns ominous ;P
[08:31] <cbx33> ogra ping me when you're able
[08:31] <cbx33> I don;t know why this isn;t working
[08:31] <pygi> sbalneav, hey
[08:31] <cbx33> but it's ticking me opff
[08:31] <sbalneav> hello pygi!
[08:32] <ogra> cbx33, just leave the usplash then ... it will take time anyway to make the buildsystem work ...
[08:33] <cbx33> ok
[08:33] <cbx33> just watned to test em :(
[08:33] <cbx33> see if they worked from an asthetics point of view ;)
[08:33] <ogra> they will surely be better than mine ...
[08:33] <ogra> :)
[08:33] <cbx33> wanna see quikylcy?
[08:33] <cbx33> I 'll upload to webserver
[08:34] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/www/edu-art/
[08:34] <cbx33> http://progbox.co.uk/edu-art/
[08:36] <stormchas3r> cbx33, nice work there
[08:36] <ogra> cbx33, later ... btw EduWIP4.jpg looks perfect ... and if the colors work in usplash thats an awesome one :)
[08:36] <cbx33> my wifes work really
[08:36] <cbx33> well it's 256
[08:36] <cbx33> so it should
[08:36] <cbx33> oh you mean 4
[08:36] <cbx33> ah
[08:37] <cbx33> check it later ;)
[08:37] <cbx33> you'll see ;)
[08:38] <stormchas3r> quick ? for you guys,  when edubuntu boots, and the "edubuntu" logo comes up when the devices load,  how can you change that logo?
[08:38] <cbx33> stormchas3r: usplash
[08:39] <ogra> cbx33, i didnt mean 4 for usplash 
[08:39] <ogra> i meant the usplash pics ...
[08:39] <stormchas3r> so how would i change this to what Id prefer?
[08:40] <cbx33> ah ok cool
[08:40] <cbx33> heheh sorry ogra
[08:40] <cbx33> go have some fun and relax
[08:40] <cbx33> I'll build you an artwork pacakge
[08:41] <stormchas3r> cbx33, you talking to ogra  or I?
[08:41] <cbx33> ogra
[08:41] <stormchas3r> dang
[08:41] <stormchas3r> kk
[08:41] <cbx33> stormchas3r hehe are you talking about for edgy or dapper?
[08:42] <stormchas3r> dapper
[08:44] <cbx33> I'm not sure
[08:44] <stormchas3r> where can i get edgy?
[08:44] <cbx33> edgy is still in development
[08:44] <cbx33> so it's still got bugs
[08:44] <stormchas3r> gotcha
[09:59] <maccam94> knock knock, anybody home?
[10:00] <Burgundavia> maccam94: yep
[10:00] <maccam94> i'm thinking of switching a high school over to Edubuntu from XP, and I'm thinking compatibility right now. what sorts of school-type apps are there, for things like grading, financing, math formula writing, etc?