[12:09] <intelikey> triade but printf '' >   is the same as :>  so why type the extra chars :)
[12:09] <took> ln -s /home/took/Blinken/lldrv/ /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build ?
[12:10] <took> no
[12:10] <intelikey> i would assume so took
[12:10] <intelikey> try it and see.   symlinks are cheep
[12:10] <took> no go
[12:11] <took> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/took/Blinken/lldrv modules
[12:11] <took> make[2] : Entering directory `/home/took/Blinken/lldrv'
[12:11] <took> make[2] : *** Keine Regel, um modules zu erstellen.  Schluss.
[12:11] <intelikey> took where is the source to your kernel ?
[12:11] <triade> intelikey: hah! learn something everyday...didn't know taht. :-)
[12:12] <took> lol - they are still packed...
[12:12] <took> # ls /usr/src/
[12:12] <took> linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[12:12] <intelikey> :)
[12:12] <oslo> bonjour comment changer el fond d'ecran derriere le LOgin screen ? sous kde ?
[12:12] <triade> intelikey: saving chars is the core of all good scripts. :-)
[12:12] <oslo> sorry
[12:12] <intelikey> took that's what it's looking for
[12:12] <oslo> i go to kubuntu-fr
[12:13] <ghostdog> I am trying to compile kopete 0.12.2 but it seems I am having problems linking to xLibs
[12:13] <ghostdog> http://paste.lisp.org/display/25727
[12:13] <oslo> so how can i change the wallpaper behind the KDE logon screen ?
[12:13] <intelikey> triade less is more     errr no  less is better   more just stinks.
[12:14] <intelikey> oslo kcontrol  has that answer
[12:14] <triade> intelikey: I sent the saame line a few weeks back to a fervent DOS user. :-D
[12:15] <intelikey> less is more than more.
[12:15] <intelikey> more is less than less
[12:15] <draik> which is ironic
[12:16] <draik> hello intelikey
[12:16] <oslo> intelikey> yes but when at booting sytem prompt 4 my password there the standard blue wallpaper wich appears behind the logon windows...
[12:16] <intelikey> draik not to us pinguins
[12:16] <intelikey> :)
[12:16] <draik> intelikey, I'm a born again penguin
[12:16] <draik> lol
[12:16] <oslo> intelikey> & i don't find whrer it can be change ..
[12:16] <draik> I have a few questions... mostly curiosity...
[12:17] <draik> What is the point to    sudo shutdown -k       ?
[12:17] <draik> I know its about "kidding", but what's the point/function?
[12:17] <intelikey> draik can you help oslo change his kdm splash while i get those answers for you     if i can.
[12:18] <oslo> draik> do u know ?
[12:18] <oslo> how
[12:18] <draik> What is the issue?
 intelikey> yes but when at booting sytem prompt 4 my password there the
[12:18] <intelikey>           standard blue wallpaper wich appears behind the logon windows...
[12:18] <oslo> i need to change the standard blue wallpaper wich appears behind the logon windows...
[12:19] <draik> easy cheesy
[12:19] <draik> I got it
[12:19] <oslo> ^^
[12:20] <draik> Let me look for it first...
[12:20] <draik> I can't recall the location ATM
[12:20] <oslo> ya
[12:22] <intelikey> draik it seems that the -k switch was added as a feture to shutdown as a facility to inform all users that the process was going to commence for a system shutdown   i.e.  shutdown -k ;sleep 15 ;shutdown -r        allowing them the option to save an close important work.
[12:22] <JFreakCapo> somebody can tell me what do this lines please:
[12:22] <JFreakCapo> sudo -s
[12:22] <JFreakCapo> echo "options ipw2200 led=1" >> /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200.modprobe
[12:22] <JFreakCapo> rmmod ipw2200
[12:22] <JFreakCapo> modprobe ipw2200
[12:22] <JFreakCapo> exit
[12:23] <draik> wow
[12:24] <draik> I can't recall it
[12:24] <draik> I've been going through all the options in System Settings
[12:24] <intelikey> draik wall extended that function, but has sense been neglected.
[12:24] <took> k. i unpacked it. and tryed ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15 /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build  - no I have a lot mor output... a lot of errors
[12:24] <draik> Thank you intelikey
[12:25] <took> like for example
[12:25] <took>  /home/took/Blinken/lldrv/lldrv.c:524: Fehler: unbekanntes Feld owner in Initialisierung angegeben
[12:26] <intelikey> JFreakCapo that looks like the 5 lines of shell code to fix an ipw2200 module    you would paste them in a konsole just like you did in here.
[12:26] <took> it starts with
[12:26] <took> root@kubuntu23:~/Blinken/lldrv# make
[12:26] <took> make default_2.6
[12:26] <took> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/took/Blinken/lldrv'
[12:26] <took> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/took/Blinken/lldrv modules
[12:26] <took> make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15'
[12:26] <took> Makefile:490: .config: No such file or directory
[12:26] <took>   WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Module.symvers
[12:26] <took>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[12:26] <draik> !pastebin > took
[12:27] <lupine_85> took: use linux-headers instead?
[12:27] <lupine_85> (don't know if it's appropriate or not - not been following this channel)
[12:28] <draik> oslo
[12:28] <JFreakCapo> inelikey that's right, my wiereless led don't turn on but the wireless works perfectly maybe that code resolve the problem, but i'm afraid that my wireless don't works again, what do you think?
[12:28] <draik> I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:28] <draik> oslo, you still here???
[12:29] <oslo> draik> yes i am
[12:29] <draik> ok
[12:29] <draik> ready?
[12:29] <oslo> so tell me tell me telll me !!!!!  ^^
[12:29] <oslo> yes i am
[12:29] <intelikey> JFreakCapo simple if it doesn't work just remove the last line in /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200.modprobe    if it's only one line remove the file.    then run the same commands again without the echo line.
[12:30] <whizz> how do i force a filesystem check ?
[12:30] <Alendit> hi, folks
[12:30] <Alendit> can somebody tell me if moodbar in amarok ir just a eye-candy or usefull thing
[12:30] <JFreakCapo> intelikey thks
[12:31] <intelikey> JFreakCapo that would reverse the action/affect.   nothing to it.
[12:31] <intelikey> childs play
[12:31] <intelikey> errr pinguins play
[12:31] <intelikey> :)
[12:32] <intelikey> JFreakCapo simply knowing what you are actually doing when you do things like that,  makes reversing them a snap.
[12:34] <orangey> hey all!
[12:34] <orangey> I'm trying to get the backports going, but I'm not sure that it's working out right.. what's the latest K3b available in backports? or how can I look through those packages?
[12:37] <intelikey> i'll be like a pinguin out of ice.
[12:38] <omar> hello
[12:38] <triade> whizz: fsck -f /dev/partition
[12:38] <orient2000> hello <omar>
[12:38] <omar> hello orient
[12:39] <omar> I am a new kubuntero
[12:39] <omar> I started some days ago
[12:39] <omar> I feel free
[12:39] <orient2000> ask the question if you have one <omar>
[12:39] <omar> I really appreciate it
[12:39] <CVirus> quoted
[12:40] <omar> now I am fighting to my family 'cos tehy need the solitario spider
[12:40] <orient2000> I love kubuntu, windows is a waste of time
[12:40] <omar> where can I find it
[12:40] <omar> yes, I hate windows too
[12:40] <omar> it's not for thinkers
[12:40] <CVirus> omar: kubuntero is for gurus like you
[12:41] <Hawkwind> omar: sudo apt-get install pysol
[12:41] <orient2000> how about jiddu krishnamurti , he he
[12:41] <omar> ok ok
[12:41] <omar> sorry
[12:41] <Hawkwind> omar: Pysol comes with about 100 or more variations of solitaire
[12:41] <CVirus> ROFL
[12:42] <omar> pysol??, but I got an error
[12:42] <omar> E: No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso temporalmente no disponible)
[12:42] <omar> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:42] <lupine_85> whizz: http://www.turboprint.de/
[12:42] <lupine_85> get your credit card ready though ;)
[12:42] <triade> whizz: steorotype answer: wit printer?
[12:43] <omar> you see?
[12:43] <omar> I am really an amateur
[12:43] <omar> but i like learning
[12:43] <omar> and I am convicing a couple friends too
[12:43] <whizz> olivetti artjet 12
[12:44] <orangey> omar: did you do 'sudo' first?
[12:44] <orangey> i.e., sudo apt-get or whatever
[12:44] <triade> djeez, never heard o that one
[12:44] <omar> omar@omar:~$ sudo apt-get install pysol
[12:44] <omar> Password:
[12:44] <omar> E: No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso temporalmente no disponible)
[12:44] <omar> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:44] <omar> omar@omar:~$
[12:44] <omar> omar@omar:~$
[12:45] <omar> there you go friends
[12:45] <orangey> omar: Make sure all other instances are not being used.
[12:45] <omar> instances??? ohhh
[12:45] <orangey> omar: sudo ps ax | grep adept ; sudo ps ax | grep apt-get
[12:45] <omar> you are right
[12:45] <omar> let me see
[12:45] <lupine_85> omar: either something else is running package-management, or a package management program died and left the lock file
[12:45] <lupine_85> (if the latter, it's safe to delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
[12:46] <orangey> lupine_85: let's take things one at a time. he's not experienced, so the most likely scenario is that he is running more than one.
[12:46] <omar> it's working
[12:46] <omar> let it finish
[12:47] <omar> can I get one more answer
[12:47] <CVirus> omar: no you cant as you havent stated your question yet !!
[12:48] <CVirus> just ask !
[12:48] <omar> he he he
[12:48] <CVirus> omar: what arab country do you come from ?
[12:48] <omar> thanks guys
[12:48] <omar> I am peruvian
[12:48] <CVirus> omar: whats with the nickname ?
[12:48] <omar> don't tell me you speak spanish
[12:48] <orangey> por suppuesto qe si
[12:48] <omar> en serio???
[12:48] <omar> danm
[12:49] <omar> ya instalaron , donde estan
[12:49] <triade> omar: no he likes guineau pigs roasted
[12:49] <omar> hahaha
[12:49] <orangey> si, perro #kubuntu no esta para espanol. solo ingles
[12:49] <omar> there you go
[12:49] <omar> cuy
[12:49] <omar> that's the name but i don0t like them
[12:49] <CVirus> !spain
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <omar> where are you from
[12:49] <CVirus> !sp
[12:49] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[12:49] <CVirus> gah
[12:50] <lupine_85> !nvidia
[12:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:50] <orangey> estoy di canada
[12:50] <omar> great
[12:50] <omar> too cold for me , but great
[12:50] <orangey> too cold for me too.
[12:50] <orangey> why else do you think I'm learning spanish?
[12:50] <omar> I mean I finish installing pysol
[12:50] <omar> where pysol is installed
[12:51] <omar> I mean what part of my directory
[12:51] <orangey> maybe in the games section?
[12:51] <orangey> omar: why aren't you using GUI tools?
[12:51] <omar> hehehe
[12:51] <omar> ok ok
[12:51] <omar> spanish is fine I am also speak portuguez
[12:51] <omar> there it go
[12:51] <omar> goes
[12:51] <omar> you are good people
[12:52] <omar> hablo
[12:52] <omar> falo
[12:52] <omar> speak
[12:52] <omar> he he
[12:52] <orangey> heheh. "problemas mas tipicos"! hahah : )
[12:52] <omar> yes
[12:52] <omar> look
[12:52] <omar> my kubuntu esta en espaol
[12:52] <omar> Family requierment
[12:52] <omar> asi que no puedo manejar tildes, o 
[12:53] <omar> they don't appear
[12:53] <orangey> omar: Bueno. bamos a #kubuntu-es
[12:53] <omar> I am there
[12:53] <seth> you can still do tildes in English Kubuntu
[12:53] <omar> pero me refiero a que los archivos con tilde salen sin ellas o con error
[12:53] <seth> Compose + n + ~ = 
[12:53] <omar> I know, but I cannot change the language
[12:54] <omar> my parents speak spanish
[12:54] <omar> they use my machine
[12:54] <orangey> seth: What is the 'compose' button?
[12:55] <orangey> omar: I can see your special characters.
[12:55] <seth> orangey, whatever you set it to be. I use the 'menu' button... you can set it in SystemSettings > Regional > xkb options > Compose key
[12:55] <whizz> you could have your own user account in whatever language you like
[12:55] <orangey> seth: gotcha
[12:55] <whizz> and have a spanish one for your parents
[12:56] <omar> hehe
[12:57] <omar> I got you
[12:57] <omar> I speak spanish so don't worry about it , but some files are changed, you know, signs  for tildes or for 
[12:58] <omar> good I feel like a really amateur
[12:59] <orangey> OK.
[12:59] <orangey> I have figured out what he's asking.
[12:59] <orangey> he's saying that he has many files from his windows days.
[12:59] <omar> yes
[12:59] <omar> that operating system with W, it sucks
[12:59] <orangey> but the files with special characters now have strange things where those characters used to be, essentially making them impossible to organize.
[01:00] <orangey> he's wondering if there is a way to recover the filenames.
[01:00] <whizz> ah..
[01:00] <omar> yes
[01:00] <omar> genius
[01:00] <Xcalibur> how long should shipit CD's take, I ordered one like 2 1/2 weeks ago, and I live in NY
[01:02] <Xcalibur> ?
[01:02] <orient2000> up to 6 weeks
[01:02] <oslo> draik> now i like to change the backgroug just after the logon screen when periphericals are loaded
[01:02] <orient2000> I veve got in 4
[01:02] <orient2000> in canada
[01:04] <dec_> hello, can you use remote desktop connection to connect to a windows computer?
[01:04] <dec_> hello, can you use remote desktop connection to connect to a windows computer?
[01:05] <Vegeta> How do I change the permission of a file to be executable? Isn't it "chmod a+x" or is there something more to it?
[01:05] <dec_> it is chmod a+x
[01:05] <dec_> can you use remote desktop connection to connect to a windows computer?
[01:06] <dec_> can you use remote desktop connection to connect to a windows computer?
[01:07] <Riddell> ** testers needed  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16beta1/ main dapper (or edgy)
[01:08] <Vegeta> dec: Even though I do that, it still says "Acces denied" to the file, when I try to install it...
[01:08] <fokuslee> can anyone help me by looking at a lspci print out?
[01:09] <dec_> I am using krdc and when i put in the windows machine name it says the following: connection failed a server with the given name cannot be found
[01:09] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23022
[01:14] <draik> oslo
[01:15] <draik> K Menu > System Settings > Login Manager
[01:15] <draik> Click on the Administrator Mode button on the bottom
[01:15] <draik> Click on the Background tab
[01:16] <oslo> draik>/usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/kubuntu/Background.png
[01:16] <draik> oh, the same one
[01:16] <draik> sorry
[01:17] <clams> hey guys, what's up with Klipper, the clipboard tool?
[01:17] <draik> rename the image in there... or just add    .backup   to the end of the file
[01:17] <clams> it stores everything you highlight instead of conventional Ctrl+C method
[01:17] <draik> then rename the new background image to kubuntu-wallpaper.png and copy it to that location
[01:17] <clams> when I read websites, i highlight as i read.... but it builds up this huge clipboard of junk then
[01:17] <clams> anybody know what I'm talking about?
[01:18] <whizz> decrease or clear the clipboard history
[01:19] <clams> but I only want my clipboard to store things that I Ctrl+C
[01:19] <clams> its storing EVERYTHING that i higlihgt
[01:20] <oslo> draik> it has worked but i have a "croosing" resolution between 1280 & 1024 but its nice
[01:20] <oslo> here the background: http://dl-1.free.fr/52616e646f6d49562dddc85c76ebefdfeaacb57bba9a69778c003f5008ce600e/Caribbean--0
[01:21] <whizz> clams: right click the klipper icon, choose configure and change 'clipboard/selection behavior' to the other option
[01:21] <oslo> the zoom in zoom ou give you the feeling you re on the beach ;)
[01:22] <clams> whizz: just tried it. it's still storing everything I highlight. :(
[01:22] <whizz> hm.. you're right.. mine is doing that too *blink*
[01:22] <whizz> never noticed it
[01:23] <dec_> can you use remote desktop connection to connect to a windows computer?
[01:24] <clams> yeah it's weird!
[01:24] <whizz> dec_: yes (but dont ask me how).. from the launchpad site:
[01:24] <whizz>  Liedboek voor de Kerken 	 : {{{LvdK}}}
[01:24] <whizz> Liederen voor de Gemeentezang 	 : {{{LvdG}}}
[01:24] <whizz> Opwekkingsliederen 	 : {{{Opw}}}
[01:24] <whizz> Tussentijds 	 : {{{TT}}}
[01:24] <whizz> Vreugde & Vrede 	 : {{{V&V}}}
[01:24] <whizz> Youth for Christ 	 : {{{YfC}}}
[01:24] <whizz> Zangbundel Joh. de Heer 	 : {{{JdH}}}
[01:26] <whizz> klipper is acting up
[01:28] <orangey> woo! Here comes the upgrade to Edgy.. : )
[01:28] <omar> hello orangey, it didn't work :(
[01:28] <orangey> omar: You did:
[01:29] <omar> I did everything
[01:29] <omar> but after the restart, nothing
[01:29] <omar> www.tinka.com.pe
[01:29] <omar> es still unavailable
[01:29] <omar> for me
[01:29] <orangey> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[01:29] <omar> yes
[01:29] <orangey> omar: and it installed?
[01:30] <fokuslee> omar are u using 64 bit?
[01:30] <orangey> omar: that site is possibly flash 8
[01:30] <omar> mmm
[01:30] <omar> I am not sure, but I used to have flash in W......... whatever
[01:30] <orangey> omar: Windows supports flash 8
[01:31] <omar> mmm
[01:31] <omar> what can I do
[01:31] <fokuslee> if ur using 64 bit then flash does not work
[01:31] <omar> what's 64
[01:31] <fokuslee> if u use 32 bit there is a trick to make it look like flash 9
[01:31] <omar> you mean memory RAM
[01:31] <fokuslee> no 64 bit instruction
[01:31] <fokuslee> like althon 64
[01:31] <fokuslee> or are u using intel?
[01:31] <omar> where can I see it
[01:31] <omar> intel?
[01:31] <omar> yes
[01:31] <omar> intel
[01:31] <orangey> fokuslee: what do you mean? i.e., send a version number?
[01:32] <obf213> how do i get my comp to automatically log onto wifi?
[01:32] <orangey> fokuslee: what's the trick?
[01:32] <fokuslee> hold on let me dig it up
[01:32] <omar> yes intel Pentium IV, 128 RAM
[01:33] <fokuslee> ok then there is a trick to make flash 7 to 9 hold on
[01:33] <Xcalibur> there is?
[01:34] <omar> I am in Kinfocenter, where is my bit
[01:34] <orangey> omar: Pentium 4 CPUs are 32-bit
[01:35] <omar> danm
[01:35] <omar> it's that bad
[01:35] <orangey> omar: Trust me, that's a good thing for you.
[01:35] <omar> thanks
[01:35] <omar> :)
[01:35] <orangey> 64 bit ubuntu is a world of pain
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> although you can avoid that pain by running 32 bit ubuntu on a 64 bit machine - like I do.
[01:35] <oslo> 64bits also on windows seems to be the same ;)
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> even though I still have a debchroot for nfsbooting. hehe
[01:36] <omar> but the flash
[01:36] <orangey> oslo: same here.
[01:36] <orangey> oslo: still, I feel lesser for doing that.
[01:36] <oslo> ^^
[01:36] <fokuslee> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/
[01:36] <fokuslee> u can follow that
[01:36] <omar> there I go
[01:36] <fokuslee> it works for myspace
[01:37] <fokuslee> but not 100percent fool proof
[01:37] <omar> he he
[01:37] <omar> but I have konqueror
[01:37] <omar> it's the same
[01:37] <omar> ?
[01:38] <fokuslee> i think itz fine
[01:38] <fokuslee> just try if anything fails just edit it back
[01:38] <fokuslee> gl
[01:38] <fokuslee> anyways can i get some video card help?
[01:39] <orangey> fokuslee: what's the issue?
[01:39] <fokuslee> here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23022
[01:39] <fokuslee> sorri there is like a half page to read
[01:39] <fokuslee> but im truely out of ideas
[01:39] <orangey> fokuslee: oops.. I'm in the midst of a dist-upgrade to edgy, so konq has konq-ed out.
[01:40] <fokuslee> oh ok
[01:40] <fokuslee> np
[01:40] <fokuslee> wait edgy is out?
[01:40] <orangey> nope.
[01:40] <orangey> I'm doing one of the alpha or beta versions.
[01:40] <orangey> In any case, what's your issue?
[01:41] <fokuslee> i can't run sli
[01:41] <orangey> SLI?
[01:41] <fokuslee> infact sli is not even showing
[01:41] <fokuslee> yeah?
[01:41] <orangey> what is sli?
[01:41] <clams> hey guys, you know how to make klipper only respond to Ctrl+C and not general highlight
[01:41] <clams> SLI = two video cards
[01:41] <fokuslee> yeah
[01:41] <fokuslee> something like that
[01:42] <fokuslee> use 2 card to get faster graphics
[01:42] <orangey> OK. I thought as much, but I didn't know that there was much graphics involved in it.
[01:42] <orangey> Nvidia SLI?
[01:42] <fokuslee> yeah
[01:42] <orangey> proprietary drivers?
[01:42] <fokuslee> yea
[01:42] <fokuslee> binarry
[01:42] <clams> i wouldn't worry about configuring it on kubuntu too much, you'll probably end up with a bigger headache and it probably won't benefit your graphics that much.
[01:42] <orangey> fokuslee: I would try on #ubuntu as well.
[01:42] <clams> !klipper
[01:42] <ubotu> klipper: clipboard utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 259 kB, installed size 924 kB
[01:42] <orangey> !k3b
[01:42] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[01:43] <clams> !windows
[01:43] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:43] <clams> haha nearest mental health institute
[01:43] <orangey> hehehe ; )
[01:43] <clams> good one ubotu!
[01:43] <clams> arrrgh why has my mouse gestures for konqueror suddenly stopped working
[01:44] <orangey> clams: It's GNU/Linux surprise.
[01:44] <orangey> clams: The next surprise is when it will randomly re-enable : )
[01:45] <clams> haha oh nuts.
[01:46] <orangey> man, everytime I upgrade to an unstable version, I always tell myself that I'll never do it again..
[01:46] <Vegeta> Why is it that KDE can't distenguish between what program it should use to open a specifik file? With "foreign" softwares that is. If we take Maple as an example, it used text editer programs to open Maple files. But when I choose those files to be open in maple, it also effected the txt files, so they oppened in maple :S
[01:46] <orangey> but then I always do it again : )
[01:46] <clams> and yet here you are
[01:46] <clams> eee vegeta that stinks, i remember my windows used to do something like that
[01:46] <orangey> Vegeta: that's a question for #kde
[01:46] <ubuntu> Vegeta: complain to Maple for using a text/plain filename structure?
[01:46] <orangey> Vegeta: the essence is that KDE doesn't recognize files by extension only, but by the contents of the file.
[01:47] <orangey> and maple files very likely have a first few lines that look like text
[01:47] <Vegeta> orangey: Couldn't it be ajusted to it would recognize it by the filename?
[01:48] <orangey> Vegeta: maybe. I'd check on #kde
[01:48] <orangey> or play around in the file types area.
[01:48] <orangey> Maybe if specifically issued, then the filetype will be pursued, but if not, then it will try to match it to content.
[01:48] <Sanne> Vegeta: did you get the procedure I posted on #ubuntu? (right click, properties...)
[01:48] <orangey> Sanne: that won't do it.
[01:49] <orangey> because the filetype he's editing would be the "text" file type.
[01:49] <Sanne> orangey: oh, ok, I see, thanks.
[01:49] <orangey> My guess is that his best bet is to create a new filetype with the extension .MAPLE or whatever, and try to configure that.
[01:49] <orangey> thereby creating separation between that and the text files.
[01:50] <Vegeta> Well maple file types are called mw, or mws, quit diferent from txt :S
[01:50] <orangey> Vegeta: like I said.
[01:50] <rcmn> i looked a while back on the forum for a fix when you have 2 sound card.Ex: 1 time the onboard is /dev/snd and the pci is /dev/snd1.But the next day pci became /dev/sdn and onboard /dev/snd1.
[01:51] <Vegeta> orangey: But do I do that?
[01:51] <rcmn> did someone fixed that pbm
[01:51] <orangey> Vegeta: do what?
[01:51] <Sanne> orangey, Vegeta: isn't it possible then, what i suggested, when it has a specific extension?
[01:51] <Vegeta> Configure a new filetype
[01:51] <orangey> rcmn: Actually, I have the same problem..
[01:51] <rcmn> i know many people do
[01:51] <JohnFlux> you need magic
[01:52] <rcmn> magic
[01:52] <orangey> Sanne: The problem, as I've noted it, is that when the extension is not previously defined (i.e., nobody makes the .mws mimetype), then KDE tries really hard to contextualize the file. if it looks like text, then it uses the text preferences.
[01:52] <ubuntu> rcmn: it's not a problem
[01:52] <orangey> Sanne: in other words, it does not interpret filetypes based on extension alone.
[01:52] <rcmn> not a problem ?
[01:53] <Vegeta> orangey: How do I define the filetype then?
[01:53] <Sanne> orangey: ah, I see, thank you.
[01:53] <ubuntu> no, it's quite normal
[01:53] <rcmn> well all my program will use a differnt card
[01:53] <ubuntu> why?
[01:53] <ubuntu> don't rely on detection order, then
[01:53] <rcmn> well exemple by default my game use sdn
[01:53] <ubuntu> create a udev rule to label them
[01:54] <rcmn> thank u
[01:54] <rcmn> udev
[01:54] <orangey> Vegeta: I'm not sure, actually.. kcontrol is probably the first step.
[01:54] <orangey> #kde is probably the right place to ask.
[01:54] <orangey> kcontrol > kde components > file associations.
[01:55] <JohnFlux> no need for kcontrol
[01:55] <ubuntu> orangey: any KDE configuration stuff might need to be here, since Kubuntu doesn't use standard KDE Control Center
[01:55] <sniffy96> Vegeta: Do this: Open konqueror -> navigate to a maple file -> rightclick the file -> properties -> click on the icon beside type. fill out the info
[01:55] <JohnFlux> konqueror has  Settings->configure konqueror->file associations
[01:56] <JohnFlux> sniffy96: no that will change the text/plain type
[01:56] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: follow what I say ;-)
[01:56] <ubuntu> no follow what i say
[01:56] <orangey> JohnFlux: OK. I couldn't find it in kguidance
[01:57] <ubuntu> click a web link to a .mws or whatever ;)
[01:57] <ubuntu> KDE can't contextually guess type if it's not local
[01:57] <sniffy96> oh. my bad. sorry for the wrong info :(
[01:57] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: Ok I'll try that :)
[01:57] <JohnFlux> sniffy96: it's not obvious :(
[01:57] <JohnFlux> it's a bad gui bug
[01:57] <actinic> is this the windows xp forum?
[01:57] <orangey> JohnFlux: agreed.
[01:57] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: you want to make a maple type as a subtype of text/
[01:58] <actinic> j/k
[01:58] <orangey> actinic: yes. Feel free to ask any windows question you wish.
[01:58] <JohnFlux> actinic: #windows
[01:58] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: What do you mean by that??? :S
[01:58] <actinic> lol
[01:58] <actinic> !windows
[01:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:58] <orangey> Vegeta: he means that the way Sanne told you to do it SHOULD work, but it is a travesty of usability that it doesn't.
[01:58] <Vegeta> ohh that
[01:59] <Vegeta> It doesn't work....
[01:59] <omar> I am still without flash in my webs :(
[01:59] <omar> sorry
[01:59] <ubuntu> Flash sucks
[01:59] <ubuntu> boycott it
[01:59] <Vegeta> Because it calls maple files "Plain Text Document". And when you change the setting for the maple files, it will change it for the txt files as well....
[01:59] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: do you know what you are doing?  you want to open the file associations tab, then click "Add" and add maple under the group text
[02:00] <orangey> Vegeta: listen to the man.
[02:00] <omar> but some wabs doens't work without it
[02:00] <orangey> or woman.
[02:00] <ubuntu> Vegeta: text/x-maple
[02:00] <orangey> omar: YOu need to look at the restricted formats link I sent you.
[02:00] <omar> I did my friend
[02:00] <ubuntu> omar: boycott means you don't go to those sites
[02:00] <omar> and I install everything
[02:00] <omar> got it
[02:01] <omar> but I nedd some of them
[02:01] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: You mean under the File Paterns?
[02:01] <omar> need
[02:01] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: in konqueror, do Settings->configure konqueror
[02:01] <JohnFlux> then click the File Associations tab
[02:01] <JohnFlux> it will list the Known extensions as a tree
[02:02] <JohnFlux> underneath is an Add button
[02:02] <JohnFlux> click that
[02:02] <JohnFlux> chose group "text" and enter the name  x-maple
[02:02] <JohnFlux> :-)
[02:02] <Vegeta> So you use Maple too? =)
[02:03] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: Type Name : x-maple??? Why x-maple?
[02:03] <clams> what IS maple?
[02:03] <Vegeta> A math application
[02:04] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: x-  means it's non-standard
[02:04] <clams> for what type of math?
[02:04] <Vegeta> All kind of. It's like Mathematica
[02:04] <ubuntu> what's the ubuntu equiv for eselect?
[02:04] <ubuntu> eg, to make GCC 4 default
[02:06] <JohnFlux> ubuntu:i don't know about gcc
[02:07] <miyako> does anyone know if Kubuntu (or some other distro) will install and run on an Intel iMac?
[02:07] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: but for almost everything else you do:  update-alternatives  --set editor /usr/bin/emacs21     for example
[02:08] <JohnFlux> !mac
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <JohnFlux> !imac
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <miyako> !iMac
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iMac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <JohnFlux> !powerpc
[02:08] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[02:08] <JohnFlux> !ppc
[02:09] <JohnFlux> miyako: ubotu says yes, but gives no useful info
[02:09] <miyako> JohnFlux, it says the PPC macs are supported, but I am wondering about the Intel macs
[02:09] <miyako> I heard that people where having trouble with the EFI and such, and were bricking their machines
[02:09] <ubuntu> kinda defeats the purpose of getting a mac...
[02:09] <JohnFlux> miyako: oppds
[02:09] <JohnFlux> ah
[02:10] <Sanne> bye all
[02:10] <larson9999> there's a purpose to getting a mac?
[02:10] <omar> send then again pls
[02:10] <weas3l> larson9999, video editing, image editing, sound editing
[02:10] <ubuntu> larson9999: good hardware-- eg, PPC
[02:11] <miyako> yeah, I need photoshop and I would like to be able to use iMovie
[02:11] <ubuntu> eww
[02:11] <ubuntu> nobody needs that
[02:12] <AZ_AS> eh, I plan on using that since it'll be a good intro to video editing without costing me money
[02:12] <ubuntu> it will cost you money
[02:12] <AZ_AS> I already have iMovie
[02:12] <larson9999> maybe i'm not professional enough but there are plenty good, free tools for that which don't require a mac.
[02:12] <AZ_AS> sorry, should've said extra money ;)
[02:12] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: How do I then aply that "globally". Because it still uses text editor to open maple files, and maple to open txt files :S
[02:13] <weas3l> yeah, but macs are like, industry norm for most of that... least in our theatre it is.
[02:13] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: okay in the file associations page again, you need to set the text/plain  back to normal - remove maple as the program to open the file with
[02:13] <miyako> well, right now I'm working on an aging G4
[02:14] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: then set the file type for  text/x-maple    to be *.mpl   or whatever it is
[02:14] <miyako> and I would like to upgrade, but I don't want to spend big $$$ to upgrade to a nice mac just for photoshop, but if I can run Linux as well, then it would be worth it for me to buy a nice new mac
[02:14] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: and set text/x-maple to run maple
[02:14] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: make sense?
[02:14] <Vegeta> Yup
[02:14] <Vegeta> Let's see if it works
[02:15] <miyako> otherwise I'll just go for a mac mini for photoshop and keep my current desktop running Linux
[02:15] <deeo> well you can run macosx on your linux box too
[02:15] <deeo> theres a mac emulator out there, but i never got it working, personally.
[02:15] <deeo> screenshots show it DOES work, though.  how fast, no idea.
[02:16] <larson9999> miyako: is photoshop that much better than gimpshop?
[02:16] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: when you edit text/x-maple   make sure you look in the Embeding tab  and set "left click action"  to Show file in separate viewer
[02:16] <antony> hello
[02:16] <miyako> larson9999: yes.
[02:16] <JohnFlux> yo
[02:16] <actinic> !fish
[02:16] <ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.0-1 (dapper), package size 355 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[02:17] <miyako> Gimp is a really good program, but productivity really suffers when trying to use it when working with people who are using Photoshop, and it is also missing a couple of key features
[02:17] <actinic> !kioslaves
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kioslaves - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: It was already on that. What about for the plain?
[02:17] <larson9999> miyako: i think it's like people telling me the new sound cards are better than my trusty sb16s... my ears just aren't good enough.  same goes for my eyes
[02:18] <miyako> the problem with gimp is that it doesn't support things like folders, it doesn't support some of the layer styles in PSD files, it doesn't play well with my Wacom tablet, basically it's 80% of the way there, but that 20% is often curcial for professional work
[02:18] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: leave that be
[02:19] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: make sure there's no reference to maple in text/plain   and that text/plain  is for .txt  files
[02:19] <miyako> when I have some spare time I might try to contribute to Gimp, I would love to see it be a real replacement for Phtoshop, but it's not there yet
[02:19] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: and text/x-maple is for .mpl  files
[02:19] <JohnFlux> miyako: krita is coming along pretty fast
[02:19] <JohnFlux> miyako: i only do the tiniest of mucking around with photos
[02:19] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: It didn't change anything...
[02:19] <JohnFlux> but I do like krita
[02:20] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: right click on the your .mpl file
[02:20] <Vegeta> I could change the option for a specifik file.
[02:20] <JohnFlux> and chose properties
[02:20] <JohnFlux> in the title bar, does it call it a text/plain   file or a text/x-maple file?
[02:20] <miyako> JohnFlux, my day job is a developer- but I moonlight as a graphics designer/animator
[02:20] <JohnFlux> miyako: neat
[02:21] <Vegeta> It is called plain text
[02:22] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: Wait I try to create a new maple file, because I messed the old ones up..
[02:22] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: nah
[02:22] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: the maple file has the extension .mpl  ?
[02:22] <sui> hi
[02:23] <Vegeta> It has .mw
[02:24] <Vegeta> JohnFlux: I think it's fixed now...
[02:24] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: I just tested
[02:25] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: it's required me to shutdown and restart konqueror
[02:25] <JohnFlux> Vegeta: that's sucky
[02:25] <Vegeta> hmm.. I didn't need that.
[02:25] <larson9999> miyako: most 'professionals' i've talked say photoshop is worth the cash.  but in your posts you were talking about gimp.  i'm curious if gimpshop takes away much of the pain of the different UI as the site says.  i personally have never used photoshop
[02:26] <miyako> larson9999, Personally, I haven't used Gimpshop.  The thing of it is, for me anyway, it's not the GUI that makes the difference, it's that GIMP simply lacks some very useful features that I need.
[02:27] <larson9999> miyako: oh, i thought maybe the gui was part of the issue since you talked about working with people who hadn't used gimp
[02:27] <miyako> larson9999, no the problem is that when you work with people who are using photoshop, they send you .psd files that are using features that Gimp doesn't support, so you end up looking at something different than what they are looking at
[02:28] <miyako> for example, if someone creates an adjustment layer in Photoshop, saves it as a .psd, and then tries to open it in gimp, the adjustment layer disappears
[02:30] <larson9999> miyako: aha
[02:30] <larson9999> miyako: new rule: no more adjustment layers.
[02:31] <miyako> larson9999, that doesn't really work, they are very useful things
[02:35] <rao> ciao a tutti
[02:35] <RawSewage> is there a way to compare 2 folders using md5sum
[02:36] <miyako> well, I'm off, thanks all
[02:36] <rao> ciao di nuovo
[02:37] <rao> nessun italiano?
[02:44] <RawSewage> why do I get Permission Denied when I run  find . -type f -print0 >/foosums
[02:44] <ubuntu> cuz you can't write to /?
[02:45] <marcio> Ol, tem alguem por ae
[02:46] <RawSewage> theres no special permissions on it
[02:46] <ubuntu> ...
[02:46] <ubuntu> go+w isn't special
[02:46] <ubuntu> err, -
[02:47] <ubuntu> /exec -o ls -lhd /
[02:47] <amicrawler> does dapper have nvidia drivers in it?
[02:47] <ubuntu> amicrawler: sure, the legal ones
[02:47] <ubuntu> one*
[02:47] <amicrawler> ok how do i get the ones from nvidia?
[02:48] <ubuntu> better to learn your lesson not to buy unsupported hardware
[02:48] <marcio> como fao para configurar minha rede
[02:48] <amicrawler> humm
[02:48] <amicrawler> i see
[02:48] <rcmn> ubuntu: thx for the tip with UDEV it worked
[02:48] <ubuntu> rcmn: :)
[02:48] <amicrawler> i got a nvidia fx 8600
[02:48] <ubuntu> amicrawler: should have got an ATi Radeon 9250
[02:49] <amicrawler> i got what i could aford
[02:49] <ubuntu> I bet the 9250 is cheaper
[02:49] <amicrawler> ati was to much for what i wanted
[02:50] <Galathalion> konqueror isnt working very good for me. anyone help me?
[02:50] <ubuntu> well, you got a card without 3D support
[02:50] <ubuntu> A Radeon 9250 is $31
[02:50] <amicrawler> in suse i got 3d support
[02:50] <ubuntu> not legal
[02:51] <amicrawler> shure i did
[02:51] <ubuntu> nope
[02:51] <ubuntu> there are no legal 3D nvidia drivers for Linux
[02:51] <RawSewage> Im trying to compare 2 folders with md5sum
[02:51] <ubuntu> RawSewage: why not diff?
[02:51] <amicrawler> down loaded the 3d drivers from nvidia.com
[02:51] <RawSewage> ubuntu, anything that works. does that check the hash
[02:52] <rcmn> ubuntu: do u think it's worth write a trip and trick post in unbuntuforum ? there is already for other media like usb but
[02:52] <RawSewage> I didnt even know about diff
[02:52] <RawSewage> I'll try it
[02:52] <ubuntu> amicrawler: they're illegal
[02:53] <amicrawler> ok
[02:53] <amicrawler> so how do i get nvida in my system again
[02:53] <amicrawler> enable
[02:54] <ubuntu> amicrawler: configure X
[02:54] <rcmn> ubuntu: do u think it's worth write a trip and trick post in unbuntuforum ? there is already for other media like usb but
[02:55] <rcmn> nothing for audio
[02:55] <RawSewage> ubuntu, does diff check the file itself in a hash manner
[02:55] <RawSewage> to make sure both files are identical
[02:56] <RawSewage> nm
[02:56] <RawSewage> thx
[02:56] <RawSewage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff
[02:57] <ubuntu> rcmn: sure
[02:57] <ubuntu> RawSewage: diff does a comparison
[02:57] <RawSewage> ok
[02:57] <amicrawler> how do i get more then 1 download going at the same time?
[02:58] <amicrawler> with sudo ?
[02:58] <ubuntu> amicrawler: sudo doesn't download anything...
[02:58] <amicrawler> i know that
[02:58] <amicrawler> how do i get more then 1 download going at the same time?
[02:59] <ubuntu> open another shell
[02:59] <amicrawler> the shell sayes that something eles is going
[02:59] <amicrawler> i did
[02:59] <shadowhywind> so i am having a bit of a problem, Linux will boot up but it wont show the login screen, anyone have any ideas?
[02:59] <amicrawler> yes
[02:59] <amicrawler> gdm
[02:59] <amicrawler> or kdm
[02:59] <amicrawler> if you get  your user name
[02:59] <amicrawler> type it in
[02:59] <amicrawler> then startx
[03:00] <shadowhywind> all i get is a black screen, nothing on it,
[03:01] <amicrawler> try  crtl + alt + f1 key
[03:01] <shadowhywind> every once in a while i will be lucky and actraully get the login screen, but its rather annoying playing guessing games
[03:01] <shadowhywind> i think it might have something to with acpi, becuase when i turn acpi off i have no problems
[03:02] <amicrawler> humm
[03:02] <jmichaelx> has anyone else ever had problems burning CDRs and CDRWs with K3B?  when i try, it fails, and the error i get says that the disc i am trying to burn to is not a DVDR....
[03:02] <amicrawler> nope
[03:03] <shadowhywind> so any other ideas before i restart
[03:03] <atul> Can anyone here help me with a strange audio problem
[03:03] <shadowhywind> whats the problem atul?
[03:03] <atul> I'm running dapper on my Dell D600 laptop
[03:03] <atul> I had audio running well
[03:03] <shadowhywind> sounds like fun
[03:04] <yango__> the standard ant package doesn't have the regexpmapper mapper... I need to install the regexp jar for ant, and apt-cache search doesn't give any clues
[03:04] <atul> but its dissappered now
[03:04] <atul> alsamixer shows all settings are good
[03:04] <atul> thre is no output using any player including aplay
[03:04] <shadowhywind> have you tried alsaconfig?
[03:05] <atul> no, which package do I get? I dont have it installed
[03:05] <RawSewage> ubuntu, diff is so slow
[03:05] <shadowhywind> alsaconfig should be installed if you have the alsamixer
[03:05] <atul> sorry but its not installed
[03:06] <amicrawler> no mp3 play back any  i deas
[03:06] <shadowhywind> oh, see if alsaconfig is a package
[03:06] <amicrawler> using the xine engin
[03:06] <shadowhywind>  it has been some time sense i used alsaconfig
[03:06] <atul> its not a package
[03:06] <shadowhywind> oh dang
[03:06] <amicrawler> my sound card is configured
[03:06] <atul> I remeber reading somewhere that alsaconfig has been discontinued for some reason
[03:07] <shadowhywind> that might be true,
[03:07] <shadowhywind> been a while sinse i tried useing it
[03:07] <atul> ok any ideas?
[03:07] <atul> I can get sound with win xp
[03:07] <atul> I checked that all the driver modules are loaded
[03:08] <shadowhywind> restarted?
[03:08] <atul> yes
[03:08] <atul> all apps seem to be happy playing stuff, its just that nothing comes out of the speakers:(
[03:08] <shadowhywind> dang, i don't have any other ideas, sorry
[03:08] <RawSewage> atul, you have mp3 codecs
[03:08] <echo1> Anyone here familiar with kismet and having two sources capture at once? (#kismet is *dead*)
[03:09] <shadowhywind> make sure that all the volumn controls are full blast and nothing is muted
[03:09] <atul> its nothing to do with mp3, i cannot play anything not even kde sounds
[03:09] <RawSewage> ok
[03:09] <atul> yes nothing is muted and all volumes are full
[03:09] <RawSewage> what about the volume roller on your laptop
[03:09] <clams> what's the name of kubuntu's basic text editor?
[03:10] <RawSewage> clams, Kate?
[03:10] <RawSewage> clams, try KWrite
[03:10] <__mikem> nano works just fine
[03:10] <atul> there are only soft keys to control volume here
[03:10] <RawSewage> it doesnt have a k in the name though
[03:10] <RawSewage> ok
[03:11] <atul> everything was working, i can't remember what broke it
[03:11] <RawSewage> did you try rebooting
[03:11] <atul> many times :(
[03:11] <RawSewage> open KMIx
[03:12] <RawSewage> PCM is maxed right
[03:12] <atul> opened
[03:12] <atul> yes it is
[03:12] <atul> the light is green
[03:12] <atul> master is maxed, master mono is maxed headphone is maxed
[03:12] <clams> okay thanks rawsewage!
[03:13] <RawSewage> ok
[03:13] <RawSewage> atul, did you go to System Settings
[03:14] <atul> any ideas RawSewage?
[03:14] <RawSewage> open Sound System
[03:14] <atul> ok i will do that
[03:14] <RawSewage> see if the Enable Sound System box is checked
[03:14] <atul> yes it is
[03:15] <RawSewage> maybe something you can do in the Hardware tab
[03:15] <RawSewage> all my boxes are unchecked in that, btw
[03:15] <clams> Hmm... I'm trying to mount my windows partition here
[03:15] <RawSewage> and it's set to Auto Detect
[03:15] <clams> I'm following the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:16] <clams> But I'm stumped at Step 5... can you guys help me? the tutorial was written for Ubuntu, so it's using ubuntu directories/names
[03:16] <clams> Navigate to the computer directory from within the places menu. Right-click the HDD partition(s) that you specified in the pmount.allow file and in the resulting menu select mount (you can also mount the disk by double-clicking its icon). Close the computer window then reopen it and the partition will be accessable.
[03:16] <atul> its set to ALSA here, changing to auto detect....
[03:16] <clams> That's the step, I'm not sure what to do to it.
[03:18] <atul> Rawsewage: No lock, changing it to auto detect had no effect
[03:18] <atul> no luck
[03:18] <RawSewage> i dont nkow
[03:18] <RawSewage> maybe ask in #Ubuntu too
[03:19] <atul> thanks for your help
[03:19] <atul> i'm asking in #ubuntu
[03:19] <RawSewage> ok
[03:20] <beemonk> Can anyone explain to me the differences between /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, and /dev/dsp2 ? I'm trying to get my USB 5.1 headset to work in VMware, and I can choose between those 3 for sound...
[03:21] <beemonk> Or rather...I can type anything in the box but i wondered why there are 3 dsp's
[03:21] <clams> hey guys how can I mount my windows partition?
[03:21] <clams> i changed my pmount.allow to add "/dev/sda1"
[03:21] <clams> but what do I do from here?] 
[03:23] <beemonk> clams: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php
[03:23] <beemonk> :)
[03:25] <clams> thanks beemonk
[03:26] <beemonk> clams: sorry to just link you when you came in here to talk to someone....but....I think it's easy enough for a +howto to explain :)
[03:26] <llxcamxll> whats the deal with getting a dvd to play
[03:27] <beemonk> I've found out that the forums have 99/100 answers to my problems :P
[03:27] <llxcamxll> point?
[03:28] <Hawkwind> !dvd
[03:28] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:28] <Hawkwind> llxcamxll: You need libdvdcss for one thing
[03:28] <llxcamxll> k
[03:28] <llxcamxll> can i like apt-get that?
[03:29] <Hawkwind> Sure, as long as you have the right repos setup
[03:29] <llxcamxll> i only got the standard repositories
[03:31] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss
[03:31] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss does not exist in any distro I know
[03:31] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss2
[03:31] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2 (dapper-seveas), package size 31 kB, installed size 112 kB
[03:31] <Hawkwind> llxcamxll: Visit: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages  <~~And add the repo
[03:32] <llxcamxll> ok
[03:34] <kuzmaster> hey all
[03:34] <kuzmaster> my firefox dosnt work properly
[03:34] <kuzmaster> somtimes it dosnt load pages
[03:35] <clams> yeah, beemonk, I was able to get it. thanks!
[03:36] <beemonk> no worries mate
[03:36] <llxcamxll> k
[03:36] <beemonk> kuzmaster: certain types of pages?
[03:36] <beemonk> kuzmaster: myspace? hotmail ?
[03:36] <larson9999> i feel like a dinosaur.  i don't like the fancy enhancements coming for the desktop.
[03:36] <kuzmaster> no,aany
[03:36] <kuzmaster> like, before it wouldnt load googel
[03:36] <beemonk> Just firefox?
[03:36] <kuzmaster> after i restarted firefox
[03:36] <kuzmaster> yeah just firefox
[03:37] <LNX1> hi !
[03:37] <kuzmaster> after i restarted firefox, it would load fine, but another page wouldnt load, then google wouldnt load
[03:37] <beemonk> hi :/
[03:37] <LNX1> ;) I have a little trouble with KDE
[03:37] <LNX1> my USB disk and key doesn't mount
[03:38] <LNX1> aumomagicaly
[03:38] <atul> Stupid question: How do I find out what version of kubuntu I am running?
[03:38] <LNX1> automagicaly ;O
[03:38] <LNX1> but...in gnome is working great with no problem
[03:38] <LNX1> I'm on Ubuntu 6.06
[03:38] <beemonk> atul: I always wondered that :P (still dont know)
[03:39] <kuzmaster> atul, i THINK i know
[03:40] <kuzmaster> get into the help thingy
[03:40] <kuzmaster> kde help center
[03:40] <atul> beemonk, I just found out: lsb_release -a
[03:41] <LNX1> no ones already have this trouble ??
[03:41] <atul> kuzmaster, thanks I found out about lsb_release -a
[03:41] <kuzmaster> atul, yeah, the lsb_release -a way is better
[03:41] <llxcamxll> www.pimpin.com.au
[03:41] <beemonk> atul: thanks
[03:42] <atul> kuzmaster, now that I know I'm running dapper, what's the deal with edgy? Is it any better
[03:43] <kuzmaster> atul, i have no idea, i suppose edgy is les stable
[03:43] <atul> worse than dapper? :p
[03:43] <kuzmaster> atul, edgy is the next release, due at the end of this yeah
[03:45] <atul> meanwhile, my audio is still silent :((
[03:46] <kuzmaster> can anyone please tell me a recomended internet browser for kubunt , apart from firefox and konquera
[03:49] <tj> hey can some 1 give me the lin kt oofftop[ic
[03:49] <tj> of topic
[03:50] <beemonk> Kubuntu Support Channel | 3.5.4 available for dapper | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapp...
[03:50] <beemonk> Kubuntu Support Channel | 3.5.4 available for dapper | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Your X broken, the fix is to update again. (make sure dapper-updates repo. is enabled)
[03:50] <larson9999> kuzmaster: opera is pretty good on linux
[03:50] <kuzmaster> k
[03:51] <kuzmaster> i wish firefox would work ;-(
[03:51] <larson9999> kuzmaster: firefox doesn't work.  why not?
[03:51] <larson9999> kushelmex: oh, you're runny edgy?
[03:52] <LNX1> someone can help for automounting of USBdisk trouble ?
[03:52] <larson9999> kushelmex: sorry that was for kuzmaster
[03:52] <kushelmex> no problem haha
[03:52] <kuzmaster> larson9999, no, im on daper
[03:52] <larson9999> kuzmaster: and firefox doesn't work?
[03:53] <kuzmaster> no
[03:53] <larson9999> what's wrong with it?
[03:53] <kuzmaster> somtimes it dosnt load pages
[03:53] <kuzmaster> like, before it wouldnt load googel
[03:53] <kuzmaster> after i restarted firefox
[03:53] <kuzmaster> after i restarted firefox, it would load fine, but another page wouldnt load, then google wouldnt load
[03:53] <LNX1> can you tell me if it's working without trouble for you ?? automount of usbdisk under KDE
[03:53] <kuzmaster> it kinda works, then dosnt work and works and dosnt work
[03:53] <larson9999> kuzmaster sounds like a dsn thing
[03:54] <kuzmaster> well, im using konquor fine
[03:55] <larson9999> kuzmaster: it's not the ipv6 thing is it?
[03:55] <kuzmaster> maybe?
[03:55] <kuzmaster> i dont know?
[03:55] <kuzmaster> what is this 'ipv6 thing'?
[03:55] <larson9999> kuzmaster: google for disabling ipv6 and see if that helps firefox
[03:56] <kuzmaster> ok
[03:56] <larson9999> kuzmaster: if not it's only a minute or two wasted
[03:56] <LNX1> aotumounting USBDISK work great for you under KDE 3.5.4
[03:56] <kuzmaster> yeah
[03:58] <larson9999> LNX1: yeah, i did have to change some settings though.  forgot what they were but it didn't take me too long to find via google.
[03:59] <LNX1> I searched long time on google but didn't find
[03:59] <LNX1> what make me crazy is that is work great under Gnome....strange
[04:02] <kuzmaster> what is the package name for gimpshop?
[04:03] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: apt-cache search gimp
[04:03] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: That will list everything dealing with gimp
[04:03] <kuzmaster> k
[04:03] <kuzmaster> thnax
[04:05] <LNX1> someones here (242 people !) who say how to set the automounting of USBdisk ??
[04:05] <beemonk> who say?
[04:05] <beemonk> google say!
[04:05] <LNX1> loll, i search a lot on Google...but doesn't found
[04:06] <LNX1> kubuntu forum is not for helping ?
[04:07] <LNX1> on google, we found often some stuff very old on ubuntu/kubuntu...but doesn't work for dapper
[04:07] <donTaquero> Really yes!
[04:07] <llxcamxll> if a game says its compatible with linux is it gonna work on kubuntu??
[04:07] <donTaquero> Maybe...
[04:08] <llxcamxll> hmm
[04:08] <LNX1> llxcamxll : 95% chance yes ;P)
[04:08] <llxcamxll> cool
[04:09] <llxcamxll> you guys know anything about alien arena
[04:09] <LNX1> thanks...good evening
[04:09] <LNX1> bye
[04:10] <llxcamxll> is .run files an installer or how do i install said extensions
[04:11] <donTaquero> I have a problem related with the sound device... I have two devices SiS SI7012 and USB Audio. Well, I attempt to use USB Audio to Amarok but doesn't responses... How to configure the output into Amarok?
[04:15] <kuzmaster> does anyone know the spefic package name for gimpshop?
[04:16] <Kr4t05> kuzmaster: sudo apt-cache seach gimpshop
[04:20] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: It's not in the repos.  If you do: apt-cache search gimp  you'll see it's not listed
[04:21] <kuzmaster> Hawkwind, ok then where can i get it
[04:21] <kuzmaster> im looking on the gimp shop site, but i cant find it...........
[04:21] <Kr4t05> kuzmaster: IIRC, you may need to compile it from source.
[04:22] <kuzmaster> do i want the 'Tar/GZ:'?
[04:22] <kuzmaster> or the Tar/BZ2:?
[04:23] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: Either
[04:26] <zblach> quick question. i've some keys on my keyboard (pause, play, stop). how can I change their default behaviour?
[04:26] <kuzmaster> k
[04:30] <Kr4t05> zblach: read what ubotu just messaged  you/
[04:30] <zblach> much thanks
[04:32] <stealg> someone have a good source of plf for apt-get ??
[04:33] <Kr4t05> stealg: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ dapper free non-free
[04:33] <Kr4t05> add that to your sources.list
[04:34] <mart> what's that?  I'm not googling it :)
[04:35] <__mikem> imbrandon are you available?
[04:35] <Hawkwind> !info hotbabe
[04:35] <ubotu> Package hotbabe does not exist in any distro I know
[04:35] <Hawkwind> mart: It's a system monitoring app
[04:35] <mart> oh, I've found the description in the .diff.gz
[04:36] <mart> "When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%."
[04:36] <Hawkwind> Most people shudder at the app 'pornview' too
[04:36] <mart> good grief.
[04:37] <flaccid_> how to config firewall?
[04:37] <flaccid_> !firewall
[04:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[04:38] <stealg> hi guys where can i found a good source list ?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> !easysource > stealg
[04:39] <flaccid_> !source-o-matic
[04:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:39] <stealg> ubotu:  i try but have errors
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i try but have errors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <clams> Hmm... how can I make AmaroK recognize my .wma's? <_<
[04:41] <clams> recognize it in the audio collection, I mean.
[04:42] <stealg> someone can tellme his source list please
[04:42] <wd3> ok i just installed automatix, "highly recommended" and now i can't log in. on reboot i put my password in and the screen looks like it's signing on then it goes blank , then the splash again.
[04:42] <mart> stealg: what exactly are you trying to install?
[04:42] <stealg> aptitude
[04:43] <mart> um, aptitude is installed by default.
[04:43] <stealg> in kubuntu not
[04:43] <mart> it is in dapper.
[04:43] <stealg> yes
[04:43] <stealg> sorry i miss synaptic
[04:44] <stealg> i try to install synaptic
[04:44] <stealg> mart
[04:44] <mart> it's in main - the default sources.list should be fine.
[04:44] <wd3> Seveas, can u help me please?
[04:44] <stealg> yes i try with the default but tellme some bad
[04:45] <stealg> sorry for my porr english
[04:45] <stealg> poor
[04:45] <donTaquero> :P
[04:45] <__mikem> Seveas isn't here, neither are any of the operators
[04:45] <mart> stealg: should I try to guess what error you get?
[04:46] <firesuite_> Hi all, could anyone point me to a good website for console commands?
[04:46] <wd3> __mikem, thanks, maybe u can help me. i was told to install automatix, for all the codecs and things, well now i can't sign in after reboot. i put my pass in and the screen goes black then sign in screen again.
[04:46] <__mikem> Aboid automatix
[04:46] <__mikem> avoid even
[04:47] <__mikem> !automatix
[04:47] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:47] <Kr4t05> stealg: Est-que tu parle francais?
[04:47] <wd3> __mikem, u tknow, when i was running ubuntu, i was told about this, but the guys earlier told me that automatix was taken over by a competent team so go for it, damn it automatix.
[04:48] <stealg> Kr4t05: Imposible obtener http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/dapper-seveas/all/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:48] <__mikem> wd3 I still don't recomend using it
[04:48] <Kr4t05> stealg: Mon francais est tres mal.
[04:48] <wd3> __mikem, ok.
[04:48] <Kr4t05> !fr
[04:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:49] <Kr4t05> De rien.
[04:49] <stealg> Kr4t05:  can u tellme u source list please
[04:49] <stealg> Kr4t05:  i speak spanish
[04:49] <Kr4t05> !es
[04:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:50] <Kr4t05> My bad.
[04:50] <stealg> XD
[04:51] <stealg> u can tellme Kr4t05?
[04:51] <wd3> __mikem, how do u install the codecs then for win32?
[04:51] <pierreth> How can I update everything?
[04:51] <__mikem> !mp3
[04:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:51] <wd3> __mikem, any solution about my problem, no help in automatix.... dead. people there but no answer.....  :(
[04:52] <Kr4t05> stealg: I have a stock sources.list
[04:52] <__mikem> wd3 look at ubotu's last post
[04:52] <Kr4t05> stealg: Nothing more than what came with my install.
[04:52] <wd3> __mikem, been there, i followed, didn't work.
[04:52] <stealg> yes i think that my source its bad
[04:52] <wd3> __mikem, thnks
[04:53] <__mikem> yw
[04:53] <mart> stealg: just remove the line that causes the error.
[04:53] <stealg> oks
[04:53] <stealg> tnks
[04:53] <__mikem> wd3 have you tried mplayer?
[04:54] <wd3> __mikem, after automatix... yes worked great of course. but now i can't login.
[04:54] <shadowhywind> i need some help, this is really werid
[04:55] <mart> interesting definition of "worked great"
[04:55] <shadowhywind> i am playing a mp3 in xmms (dosen't matter what program), it plays it though my speakers, even if i have headphones pluged in
[04:56] <actinic> wow, 247 online and all chatting at once
[04:56] <actinic> lol
[04:56] <shadowhywind> hehe
[04:56] <shadowhywind> hopefully one of the 246 will be able to solve my werid audio problem
[04:56] <actinic> if I were to say 'OldKid is a jerk' do u think he'd notice?
[04:56] <actinic> :)
[04:59] <actinic> anyone here using ssh to connect to a remote linux pc?
[04:59] <dissidentcitizen> hey are any of you guys having trouble using amarok with katapult? Whenever I try to load up a song amarok just gives an error "error loading media, no suitable input plugin" its happened ever since I Amarok 1.4.2
[05:00] <mart> actinic: yeah.
[05:00] <shadowhywind> i wish i could listen to music, but it refuses to play though my headphones
[05:00] <actinic> mart, that's great.  You should give 'fish' a try ... it's built-in to KDE
[05:00] <mart> actinic: I already use it :)
[05:00] <junkphreak> have you turned in your headphone jack in kmix ?
[05:01] <actinic> i love those kioslaves in KDE
[05:01] <shadowhywind> how? (i have never had to do that before, mind you it is a new laptop)
[05:01] <actinic> nothing more than fish://hostname or fish://username@hostname
[05:01] <shadowhywind> the only thing i have in kmix is master, pcm and capture
[05:01] <junkphreak> you see your speaker on  taskbar
[05:02] <shadowhywind> i have used kmix before
[05:02] <mart> actinic: speaking of kio slaves.... do you know if you can configure the audiocd:/ one?
[05:02] <shadowhywind> i think my audio drivers werent installed right
[05:02] <junkphreak> well thats s00ks
[05:03] <actinic> mart, i haven't tried tho i heard it's a drag & drop proposition, no?
[05:03] <firesuite_> could anyone tell me the quickest way to find out which version of KDE desktop im running please? :)
[05:03] <mart> actinic: I want to configure the file names that appear..
[05:04] <zblach> r-click your taskbar, -> about
[05:04] <mart> firephoto: help about
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> firesuite_,  look in the help/about menu item
[05:04] <shadowhywind> is there some easy way to doublec check audio drivers?
[05:04] <firesuite_> thanks zblach
[05:04] <mart> gah... silly tab-complete. :/
[05:04] <Crema10> hello, i'm having problems making flash plugin for mozilla firefox work
[05:04] <firephoto> ;)
[05:05] <Crema10> Adept says that i have it installed, but still Flash doesnt work in Firefox
[05:05] <actinic> hmm, don't know mart
[05:05] <mart> actinic: so instead of artist - 01 - track.ogg, I just want artist - track.ogg
[05:05] <Crema10> i isntalled libflash-mozplugin via Adept
[05:06] <actinic> mart, wonder if there's a linux-based file renamer out there?
[05:06] <actinic> tons of them in win
[05:06] <mart> actinic: at least a million - the question is... can I be bothered to learn one? :)
[05:06] <actinic> well only you can answer that :)
[05:07] <actinic> kind of like asking if I want to be bothered trying another beer
[05:07] <actinic> hell yes :)
[05:07] <shadowhywind> so any ideas about my audio issue?
[05:08] <mart> actinic: ah, kcmshell audiocd :)
[05:08] <actinic> and i've got just the mod ... ftp://oberon.gotdns.com/bottleopener.jpg
[05:08] <actinic> :)
[05:08] <orangey> hey all! quick q: I've got some firewall dumping tons and tons of logs into dmesg and syslog.
[05:09] <orangey> I was wondering how I could *disable* that.
[05:09] <mart> actinic: I do hope that's not yours?
[05:09] <actinic> kcmshell, eh?
[05:09] <_bender_> Okie, another hurdle overcome (finally figured out sudo=root and that there is no real root, just sudo)
[05:09] <actinic> hehe, nope
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> a littel hurdle. :)
[05:10] <_bender_> lol tiny hurdle
[05:10] <actinic> _bender_: this gets close to 'real' root ... su -s
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Hurdleette
[05:10] <actinic> err sudo -s
[05:10] <_bender_> Ah kk, will try that the next time I encounter the need for root type ability
[05:10] <mart> actinic: sssh... the children will hear!
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> im so old-skool i am used to using 'sux'
[05:10] <_bender_> Actually the biggest issue I was having was figuring out the Sudo password, didn't realize how it worked at first
[05:11] <actinic> yikes, what have I done!
[05:11] <mart> Dr_Willis: is sux a suse thing?
[05:11] <_bender_> Now...getting Samba to work lol
[05:11] <mart> Dr_Willis: oh, nvm.  I didn't realise it was a package.
[05:11] <Crema10> damn, it didnt work :(
[05:12] <Crema10> i cant get flash to work on Firefox
[05:12] <Crema10> i dont know why, i installed everything that it needed
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> sux is an old script that lets you su and have the right xhost/permissions to run apps on the desktop. :)
[05:12] <actinic> mart, i've seen sux in Kanotix
[05:12] <_bender_> :S I had same problem Crema...ended up falling back on Konqueror personally (so much easier getting flash to work in it)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> not even sure how it differs.. but i just use it out of habbit insead of sudo -s or whatever
[05:12] <mart> Dr_Willis: yeah, you're the second person I've seen this week mention it.  I've always just used xauth, or .Xauthority symlinking.
[05:13] <Crema10> _bender_: ok then if would please tell me what do i need to make flash work in Konqueror?
[05:13] <mart> Dr_Willis: I don't think sux is a better habit :/
[05:13] <_bender_> crema10: just decompress the flash.tar file (that you should have downloaded unless you haven';t :P)
[05:13] <_bender_> Then
[05:14] <Crema10> _bender_: i'm using Adept to install things... cant i use Adept for this?
[05:14] <_bender_> Well it was just a plugin settings in Konqueror
[05:14] <_bender_> Didn't have to use Adept to get it working properly
[05:15] <_bender_> Just click Settings /// configure konqueror /// plugins and select "scan for new plugins"
[05:15] <_bender_> Should find the Flash plugin, select it and you're set
[05:15] <_bender_> Much easier than convincing FireFox to use Flash imo
[05:16] <_bender_> hmm...I'm being summoned to have some popcorn...
[05:16] <_bender_> Crema: Did that fix it?
[05:16] <Crema10> _bender_: ok that worked, thanks a bunch :)
[05:16] <_bender_> :D np np
[05:16] <Crema10> it sure did :)
[05:16] <unix_infidel> can k3b burn .bin + .cue?
[05:17] <_bender_> kk brb must get popcorn :O lol
[05:17] <Kr4t05> Has anyone else gotten a Logitech Quickcam Express to work?
[05:17] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Of course
[05:17] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: thanks.
[05:17] <Crema10> OH WAIT! no it didnt :(
[05:17] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Do it as a data CD
[05:17] <Crema10> damn i thought it did
[05:17] <Crema10> damn
[05:17] <Crema10> thsi sucks
[05:17] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: erf?
[05:18] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: You have to select Data CD from the menu
[05:18] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: as opposed to burn cd from image?
[05:18] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: I do believe so
[05:19] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Been a while since I burned cue/bin files.  It might be the image file selection
[05:20] <Kr4t05> Anybody? Help?
[05:20] <Kr4t05> Stupid Logitech... ><
[05:20] <_bender_> back
[05:20] <_bender_> sister ate most of my damn popcorn grrr
[05:21] <Kr4t05> _bender_: I feel your pain, but some of us have real problems. ><
[05:21] <_bender_> sory sorry
[05:21] <_bender_> Haven't tried configuring my Logitech cam yet (wouldn't know where to start with her)
[05:21] <Kr4t05> Back to my rant, does anyone, ANYONE know how to get a Logitech Quickcam working?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> I recall the bot having a webcam factoid
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[05:22] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:22] <_bender_> !samba
[05:22] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:22] <_bender_> ohhhh :D
[05:22] <Kiongku> o0
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> !tapdance
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tapdance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <_bender_> lol
[05:22] <Kiongku> SWAT ... omg.. modereated by the police
[05:23] <_bender_> Ehh am ok with that long as it allows me to share stuff...completly legal stuff COUGH COUGH amongst my PC's
[05:23] <Kiongku> !SWAT
[05:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:23] <Kiongku> :p
[05:23] <Kr4t05> Dr_Willis: The bot lies! Cameras are not easy to install... ><
[05:23] <Kiongku> really bender :D?
[05:23] <Crema10> _bender_: man i give up :(
[05:24] <_bender_> lol really :D all legal...as far as anybody else is concerned
[05:24] <Crema10> thsi doesnt want to work for me
[05:24] <_bender_> Hmmm... :(
[05:24] <Kiongku> Kr4t05: hmm forgot how i did mine.. but i did not get much trouble
[05:24] <Crema10> maybe its the damn image (i'm using only an image of Kubuntu via VMWare Player )
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Kr4t05,  i got 3 webcams and NONE of them work under linus. :P
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> linux even
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:24] <_bender_> well gonna plug mine in in a secs and see if it works with Kopete
[05:25] <Kiongku> Dr_Willis: i got one webcam that i bought in a rat hole in hong kong and its working :p
[05:25] <Kr4t05> _bender_: Kopete doesn't do video.
[05:25] <Kr4t05> _bender_: aMSN
[05:25] <_bender_> boo
[05:25] <_bender_> Ah
[05:25] <_bender_> Fair enough, guess am off to find aMSN...unless there is a native way to view web cams in Kubuntu?
[05:25] <wd3> __mikem #automaix says update screwed up system, not automatix issue. was there a update screwup prb.
[05:26] <Kr4t05> _bender_: camorama
[05:26] <Kr4t05> _bender_: apt-get it.
[05:26] <_bender_> yep
[05:26] <Kr4t05> can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[05:26] <Kr4t05> That sucks...
[05:27] <Kr4t05> My camera is plugged in, and the little green light is one, too. ><
[05:27] <Kr4t05> on, even
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> now your system will explode
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:27] <_bender_> lol
[05:28] <Kr4t05> Maybe it's trying to be WIndows. ><
[05:28] <_bender_> Hmm...but it hasn't started breathing fire and whispering sweet nothings at you yet has it?
[05:28] <_bender_> Untill then it's nothing like Windows :p
[05:29] <_bender_> Hmm looks like I don't have Camorama package part of OS...maybe...
[05:31] <_bender_> Question...apt-get upgrade and update...what's the difference between the two commands?
[05:32] <Kr4t05> I'm about to cry. ><
[05:33] <Kr4t05> I spent $40 for nothing.
[05:33] <_bender_> I get that feeling every day when dealing with this stuff...sometimes
[05:33] <_bender_> Oh?
[05:33] <wd3> __mikem.....  ^^^  last post..
[05:34] <Kr4t05> And, I'm sure if I ask the folks there anything about compatiability, I can expect a blank look and the question, "What's Linux?"
[05:34] <_bender_> This is true...
[05:34] <Kr4t05> ^Walmart
[05:35] <Kiongku> yay webcam working ^^
[05:35] <_bender_> Jebus christies...friend told me Linux has no future once Vista arrives
[05:35] <_bender_> GRRR on humans
[05:35] <Kr4t05> Kiongku: I could hurt you.
[05:35] <Kiongku> Kr4t05: geh...
[05:36] <Crema10> _bender_: ok now it works with Konqueror, thanks bud :)
[05:36] <Kr4t05> Kiongku: What model?
[05:36] <_bender_> Ah nice
[05:36] <_bender_> ;)
[05:36] <halfbloodprince> hello people
[05:37] <Kiongku> Z-star microelectronics
[05:37] <_bender_> heya half
[05:38] <halfbloodprince> 181 MB of my kubuntu iso download is done
[05:38] <_bender_> Ah nice
[05:38] <halfbloodprince> thing is, if i'm downloading, i cant do anything else
[05:38] <halfbloodprince> so i had to pause it for a while
[05:38] <_bender_> Why can't you do anything else?
[05:39] <halfbloodprince> coz it wont let me do anything else.. hogs all the bandwidth
[05:39] <_bender_> Weird....might try a d/l manager to throttle that download then
[05:40] <Crema10> halfbloodprince: i'm running an iso of Kubuntu on VMWare also
[05:40] <Crema10> its great
[05:40] <Crema10> i'm on it right now
[05:40] <Crema10> :)
[05:40] <halfbloodprince> what's your base OS
[05:40] <Crema10> just dirty flash plugin doesnt wanna play nice with Firefox :(
[05:40] <_bender_> Mine?
[05:40] <Crema10> XP Home
[05:40] <_bender_> oh
[05:40] <halfbloodprince> okay
[05:40] <_bender_> XP Pro over there ---> :p
[05:40] <Crema10> i have 2.5 GB of RAM though
[05:40] <_bender_> and blah to flash and firefox...
[05:41] <_bender_> boo 2.0 GB :(
[05:41] <halfbloodprince> bender, you're on xp pro?
[05:41] <_bender_> To my right is my main XP Pro machine
[05:41] <_bender_> This is on a P3 733 Mhz lol
[05:41] <Kiongku> boo 1 GB >>
[05:41] <_bender_> lol
[05:41] <Crema10> is everybody here running the Kubuntu ISO on VMWare?
[05:41] <Crema10> hehe
[05:41] <Crema10> seems like you are
[05:41] <_bender_> lol
[05:41] <Kiongku> nah
[05:41] <_bender_> nope
[05:41] <Crema10> oh ok
[05:41] <Kiongku> Kubuntu my main os
[05:41] <Crema10> cool
[05:41] <_bender_> Main OS on this too
[05:41] <Crema10> my main Linux OS is Centos
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Crema10,  i am downloading a xubuntu image to try in vmware. :P
[05:42] <_bender_> No mucking around with any virtualization or emulation
[05:42] <halfbloodprince> I'm on XP pro, but that's because I havent installed kubuntu yet
[05:42] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: nice, please tell me how it goes. What your host OS?
[05:42] <halfbloodprince> I'm going to do a dual boot
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Crema10,  Kubuntu :P
[05:42] <Kiongku> nice halfbloodprince
[05:42] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: hahaha nice
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Crema10,  also grabed a dsl-n and minix image. :P
[05:43] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: ooooooh please, that mini image link :)
[05:43] <_bender_> lol
[05:43] <_bender_> Nice
[05:43] <_bender_> Wasn't prepped to do a dual boot yet if only because it's good being able to play StarCraft while having this here to chat in :p
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Crema10,  Hmm.. it was a vmware page that had 'vmware appliances'
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/  has some other disrtos also
[05:44] <kuzmaster> i need help
[05:44] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: oh ok, i'll check it out
[05:44] <Crema10> thanks
[05:44] <halfbloodprince> what's up kuzmaster
[05:44] <kuzmaster> i just downloade gimpshopt and and i have extracted it
[05:44] <halfbloodprince> how was all the updatin' yesterday
[05:44] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: btw, whats dsl-n?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/browserapp.html
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> a Bigger DSL :)
[05:44] <Kiongku> Rock and Roll!! Do u want a piece of me!! AHhh yeah
[05:44] <kuzmaster> halfbloodprince, went  well, its all done
[05:45] <kuzmaster> but anyway, i dont know what to do now
[05:45] <halfbloodprince> you were saying about gimpshop?
[05:45] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: I really dont get it, sorry... please explain if you could
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> I got that "Ubuntu Hacks" book - and it has a chapter on vmware :P
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> and a chapter on xen
[05:45] <kuzmaster> yeah, i downloaded it, and i have extraced all the files, but i dont know what to do now
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> DSL - a mini linux disrto.. DSL-N - their BIGGER version
[05:46] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: gotcha gotcha.. whats so good about that distro?
[05:46] <halfbloodprince> isn't there a guide on that site? i thought i saw one
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> its tiny. :)
[05:46] <kuzmaster> ill have another look
[05:46] <Kiongku> bah
[05:47] <halfbloodprince> brb
[05:47] <Kiongku> tiny .. is big in dota..
[05:47] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: cool.. also, dont you have to use Suse in order to use Xen? I didnt know you could do Xen on Ubuntu
[05:47] <wd3> are there any update problems that will cause system not to login ur pass?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Crema10,  from what ive read. (never used xen) you could use about any disrto to have a XEN setup.
[05:47] <Kiongku> wd3: dutn think so
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> but you want a very tiny/stable initial disrto for the core of xen to run on.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Or so the chapter says. :P
[05:48] <Crema10> gotcha.. i have to check that out
[05:48] <Crema10> thanks Doc!
[05:49] <Kiongku> lol.. bugsbunny: whats up doc?
[05:50] <Kiongku> who has a customised skin for kde here?
[05:50] <Crema10> i wonder if there's a forum that just talks about virtualization
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Crema10,  proberly - its a big topic these days
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> I just barely understand parts of it. :P
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> but i have a history of messing with emulators.
[05:51] <Crema10> wow, i cant believe Yahoo doesnt work on Konqueror. wtf?
[05:52] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: same here, but i'm so willing to learn , the topic is so interesting
[05:52] <Crema10> virtualiation is the future
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> what part of it dont work?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Crema10,  i think i heard mention of xp some how working with xen now.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> but i aint messed with xen. yet
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:52] <Kr4t05> Are the forums experiencing some some downtime.
[05:52] <Kr4t05> ??
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Kr4t05,  yes.
[05:53] <Kr4t05> FFS
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> they never have been super reliable. :(
[05:53] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: well just go to Yahoo.com and you'll see..
[05:53] <Kiongku> bye everyone.. gtg
[05:53] <Crema10> g'night Kiongku
[05:53] <Kiongku> Crema10: its g'morn.. going to church :p
[05:54] <Crema10> oh hehe
[05:54] <Crema10> church is good :)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> ok.. vmware installed... :P
[05:54] <Kiongku> playing drums in church is relaxing XD
[05:57] <wd3> NDPowerBook, i have a powerbook 1400, i know it's old , how old is ur?
[05:57] <NDPowerBook> I had one of those.
[05:57] <NDPowerBook> I have a Powerbook G4 12"
[05:57] <NDPowerBook> I upgraded the CPU on my 1400 to a G3
[05:58] <wd3> NDPowerBook, really, is it worth it
[05:58] <pierreth> hello, where is located source.list?
[05:58] <kuzmaster> dose/has anyone here play/played jazz jackrabbit 2 under wine?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> powering up DSL-N under vmware. :P wee
[05:58] <noiesmo> pierreth, /etc/apt/
[05:58] <pierreth> noiesmo: is it normal mine does not exist?
[05:59] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: The best place to ask about Wine stuff is in #WineHQ actually.  Those guys are the experts and most all of them run wine were very few here do
[05:59] <NDPowerBook> wd3: It was at the time, over 6 years ago. It must be absolutely inexpensive now.
[05:59] <wd3> NDPowerBook, i read the "weekend warrior" reviews and it said it might not be worth it, just keep it for a little word processor book, i have os 8 on mine. i want to install linux.
[05:59] <wd3> NDPowerBook, yeah it is.
[05:59] <noiesmo> pierreth, no even with cd only install you should have one
[05:59] <NDPowerBook> Uh unless you absolutely cannot afford something better I'd avoid trying to shoehorn Linux onto that thing.
[05:59] <kuzmaster> k, thanx
[06:00] <wd3> NDPowerBook, i had a forum poll asking about which distro of ubuntu..... xfce or ubuntu for it. they said it maybe to slow... what do u think?
[06:00] <kuzmaster> now, what is the command to install a .deb package
[06:00] <kuzmaster> i forget
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> could always use a VERY light window manager - like fluxbox/icewm
[06:00] <pierreth> noiesmo: ok, i see, it is sources.list and source.list :-)
[06:00] <wd3> NDPowerBook, really
[06:00] <wd3> NDPowerBook, oh no, i wanted to do something for it...   it's old. i know.
[06:00] <NDPowerBook> wd3: Its a 10 year old laptop.
[06:00] <NDPowerBook> http://www.apple-history.com/body.php?page=gallery&model=1400&performa=off&sort=date&order=ASC
[06:01] <NDPowerBook> Well it'll be 10 years in October
[06:01] <NDPowerBook> You are about to embark on an exercise in frustration.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Ick!
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> can you say 'telnet/ssh' terminal. :P
[06:02] <wd3> NDPowerBook, lol
[06:02] <wd3> NDPowerBook, u think so....  lol
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Well my vmware install is a success! :P
[06:02] <Crema10> nice!
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> too bad i dont have a bigger system.
[06:02] <wd3> NDPowerBook, well what about the g3 upgrade, how do u like it?  wanna sell it?   lol
[06:03] <NDPowerBook> Yeah I think so.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> dsl-n is working.  a littel sluggush however.
[06:03] <Crema10> Dr_Willis: how much ram do you have?
[06:03] <NDPowerBook> wd3: I said I "had" one of those.
[06:03] <Crema10> and whats your CPU?
[06:03] <NDPowerBook> I don't have it anymore.
[06:03] <wd3> NDPowerBook, oh
[06:03] <savagenator> :(
[06:03] <Hawkwind> kuzmaster: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:03] <link_36p> Worst apt-get nightmare every.......... http://pastebin.ca/165749
[06:03] <wd3> NDPowerBook, was it worth it?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> 1.5 gb or so. :P
[06:03] <wd3> NDPowerBook, the upgrade?
[06:03] <link_36p> erer*
[06:04] <NDPowerBook> wd3: I already answered that question.
[06:04] <wd3> NDPowerBook, sorry
[06:04] <kuzmaster> Hawkwind, thanxz
[06:04] <savagenator> why is it that i cannot connect to other servers through the IRC in kubuntu
[06:04] <wd3> good night all, automatix has screwed me up so another install quest....... :(
[06:05] <savagenator> it disconnected me
[06:05] <savagenator> wierd
[06:05] <Kr4t05> Bah...
[06:05] <savagenator> anyway how to i connect to other servers in teh kubuntu irc
[06:05] <Kr4t05> How do I find more information on a usb device
[06:05] <Kr4t05> ?
[06:06] <tj> can someone give me the link to offtopic please
[06:06] <tj> !!!!!!!!!!!111
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 111 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> You mean #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[06:06] <tj> hahaha u funny lmao not
[06:06] <Kr4t05> Troll
[06:06] <kuzmaster> tj, lol, diddnt you know that ubotu knew nothing about 111?
[06:06] <Kr4t05> kuzmaster: troll
[06:07] <kuzmaster> me?
[06:07] <Kr4t05> No
[06:07] <Kr4t05> tj
[06:07] <kuzmaster> ohhhhhhhhhhh, k
[06:07] <halfbloodprince> kuzmaster: did you figure out how to install gimpshop
[06:07] <savagenator> so how do i connect to other servers in the kubuntu irc?
[06:07] <kuzmaster> kinda, i downloaded a .deb file of it i think
[06:07] <halfbloodprince> yeah, that's the one you were supposed to download
[06:07] <halfbloodprince> what did you do earlier
[06:08] <link_36p> Is anyone here intamtly know apt-get?
[06:08] <kuzmaster> i downloaded a........................... tar ball thingy
[06:08] <halfbloodprince> ah
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> savagenator,  try the /server command ?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> savagenator,  or check the menus for your irc client for some server /connection items
[06:09] <halfbloodprince> Kr4t05: instead of downloading extra fonts from automatix or easyubuntu or whatever, can i just burn my windows ttf fonts to a cd, and then install them by copying them in some folder?
[06:09] <savagenator> it says name lookup has failed
[06:09] <Kr4t05> halfbloodprince: no idea.
[06:09] <halfbloodprince> Kr4t05: How do you install ttf fonts?
[06:10] <kuzmaster> hmmmmm, now to run gimpshop
[06:10] <Kr4t05> halfbloodprince: EasyUbuntu. :)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> halfbloodprince,  check out 'fonts:///'
[06:10] <halfbloodprince> Kr4t05: I read on the ubuntu site that all you need to do is copy them to a /.fonts folder
[06:10] <kuzmaster> found it
[06:10] <amicrawler> how do i enable the nvidia driver ?
[06:10] <pierreth> how can i update kde?
[06:10] <Kr4t05> halfbloodprince: I wouldn't know, so don't ask me.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> fonts:// or somthing like that. :P
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[06:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:10] <savagenator> connection actively refused???
[06:10] <halfbloodprince> ok thanks
[06:13] <halfbloodprince> yeah, that's all you need to do.. copy the fonts to ~/.fonts/
[06:13] <halfbloodprince> yaya
[06:13] <halfbloodprince> yay*
[06:13] <halfbloodprince> :)
[06:14] <savagenator> anyone know zue.net?
[06:14] <savagenator> how do i connect to that server?
[06:15] <Kr4t05> OK, if I do sudo lsusb, it gives me a list of usb devices. Say I want more info on a certain device. How do I do that again?
[06:15] <hybrid> Kr4t05: check the man page?
[06:16] <hybrid> savagenator: what is zue.net?
[06:16] <savagenator> hyprid: its a IRC server, i cant connect to it for some reason
[06:17] <hybrid> savagenator: that may be out of your hands, does it deliever and errors?
[06:17] <savagenator> yeah
[06:17] <savagenator> it says connection refused
[06:17] <hybrid> what errors?
[06:17] <savagenator> and operation not supported
[06:17] <savagenator> cannot connect
[06:21] <savagenator> hybrid: ?
[06:22] <kacknub> in which dir is the kernel?
[06:22] <kacknub> normally
[06:22] <kacknub> ?
[06:22] <Kr4t05> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[06:22] <Kr4t05> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[06:22] <_bender_> hmm
[06:23] <Kr4t05> What's that mean?
[06:23] <_bender_> bin I thought?
[06:23] <kacknub> ./usr/src ?
[06:23] <hybrid> savagenator: what client are you using?
[06:23] <Kr4t05> kacknub: why do you want to know?
[06:23] <unix_infidel> can ark decompress multiple rar archives at once?
[06:23] <savagenator> hybrid: konversation
[06:23] <savagenator> hybrid: it deosnt work on xchat either
[06:23] <hybrid> hmm
[06:23] <kacknub> wanna check if i got it or not
[06:23] <hybrid> what port?
[06:23] <savagenator> 6667
[06:24] <Kr4t05> Man...
[06:24] <Kr4t05> This sucks.
[06:24] <Kr4t05> How do I install and configure the kernel source?
[06:24] <hybrid> savagenator: weird their server may be messed up atm, besides that idk
[06:24] <kacknub> cause i "isntalled" kernel-source and only a tar.gz is in /usr/src
[06:24] <savagenator> i can give you an online link hybrid
[06:24] <Kr4t05> I need to compile spca5xx
[06:25] <savagenator> http://misticriver.net/#
[06:25] <kacknub> so if i install linux-source will there be a tar.gz in /usr/src too or is it unpacked
[06:26] <kacknub> in /usr/src/linux
[06:28] <kacknub> nobody knows?
[06:28] <kacknub> :(((
[06:30] <ccherrett> how does one disable kwallet from controlling kmails passwords?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> kacknub,  install it and see. :P
[06:30] <kacknub> i need to know where my kernelfolder is please, in order to installing qc-usb-messernger-1.3
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> i would guess it would be uncompressed..
[06:30] <ccherrett> I put the wrong password in kwallet and now it will not let me check my mail
[06:31] <kacknub> which folder would u guess
[06:31] <Kr4t05> ....
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> if you havent insrtalled the kernel source or includes yet.. you may not have one
[06:31] <kacknub> args standard folder then
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> install linux-headers-386 (or whatever kernel ya got)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> if thats what the program you are messing with wants.
[06:32] <kacknub> i am installing "linux-source"
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> i got several /usr/src    linux-headers-2.6.15-26  linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386  linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686     dirs.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> linux source is the kernel itself then
[06:33] <kacknub> thats what i want...
[06:33] <kacknub> dont caare bout the headers
[06:33] <kacknub> but thx
[06:37] <kacknub> ccherrett:
[06:37] <kacknub> Kwallet ffnen, dann:
[06:37] <kacknub> Einstellungen-Digitale Brieftasche einrichten-Hckchen von 'Das digitale Brieftaschensystem aktivieren' entfernen.
[06:38] <miyako> anyone here have any experience with ivtv and tvtime ?
[06:38] <kacknub> options - digital dunnow bla - aktivate digitalblasystem
[06:39] <ccherrett> kacknub: wow thanks man
[06:39] <kacknub> did it work?
[06:40] <unix_infidel> can ark handle multiple rar files at once?
[06:40] <ccherrett> all fixed
[06:40] <unix_infidel> i cant seem to get it to select more than one.
[06:41] <kacknub> where did u find kwallet
[06:41] <kacknub> i dont find mine
[06:42] <ccherrett> kacknub: kcmshell kwalletconfig
[06:42] <rcmn> ?
[06:53] <omar> Hi guys
[06:53] <omar> how are you
[06:53] <omar> I gotta a ques
[06:53] <omar> quest
[06:53] <omar> o en espaol
[06:53] <[joemaxx] > woo a quest
[06:53] <omar> yes
[06:54] <omar> look I used to love Ares, but I am Ubuntero now
[06:54] <omar> what can I do
[06:54] <[joemaxx] > I'm a Kubuntuero, as well
[06:54] <omar> great
[06:55] <omar> look I don't wanna install anything related to the W..... system which sucks of coursew
[06:55] <omar> is there a better one for kubunteros
[06:55] <[joemaxx] > W*dows?
[06:55] <[joemaxx] > hehe
[06:56] <Healot> back to basic, Debian?
[06:56] <link_36p> guys im trying to fizx this apt-get error i keep getting -http://pastebin.ca/165749
[06:57] <omar> hey do you have my answer
[06:58] <[joemaxx] > omar: hmm..was that meant for me? :)
[06:58] <[joemaxx] > link_36p: hi...did u run this one as root?
[06:58] <omar> something better than Ares but for kubuntu
[06:58] <link_36p> yes
[06:59] <[joemaxx] > link_36p: do u mind putting in what command u typed in? :)
 sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:59] <firesuite_> could anyone tell me how to terminate process's my package manager will not let me install because something else is using ti. thanks
 synaptic and adept wont isntall/remove anything either...
[06:59] <link_36p> :S
[06:59] <link_36p> they want this package "reinstalled"
[07:00] <link_36p> but trying to reinstrall it just gives an error so...
[07:00] <link_36p> idk
[07:00] <[joemaxx] > hmm
[07:00] <link_36p> they file shows everything ive tried to fix it but nothing works
[07:00] <[joemaxx] > link_36p: you could try using Synaptic, man...
[07:00] <link_36p> i have tried
[07:01] <link_36p> it gives same error output
[07:01] <firesuite_> how do you stop apt get ? from console
[07:02] <link_36p> killall -9 apt-get?
[07:02] <link_36p> without the "?"
[07:02] <link_36p> lol
[07:02] <link_36p> u mean while its doing stuff?
[07:02] <firesuite_> no i ran it earlier then rebooted, now adept wont run cuz it says another process is using it
[07:02] <link_36p> ohh
[07:03] <link_36p> killall -9 apt-get
[07:03] <firesuite_> thanks very much appreciated
[07:04] <firesuite_> it says no process killed
[07:04] <[joemaxx] > firesuite_: are using synaptic ?
[07:04] <firesuite_> no adept
[07:04] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[07:05] <Kr4t05> can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[07:05] <Kr4t05> How can I fix that?
[07:05] <omar> guys please, I need something like ares for kubuntu
[07:06] <omar> do you have something
[07:06] <Healot> bittorrent client huh. frostwire maybe
[07:07] <[joemaxx] > omar: hav u tried looking for it in the kubunt distro? sudo apt-cache search ares
[07:07] <Healot> !find are
[07:07] <ubotu> Found: libares-dev, libares0, shared-mime-info, xserver-xorg-driver-vmware, avm-fritz-firmware-2.6.15-23 (and 114 others)
[07:07] <Healot> !find ares
[07:07] <ubotu> Found: libares-dev, libares0, dares, dares-qt
[07:07] <Healot> !info dares
[07:07] <ubotu> dares: rescue files from damaged CDs and DVDs (ncurses-interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-2 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 88 kB
[07:08] <Healot> okay, Ares isn't in official repository
[07:09] <firesuite_> could anyone tell me how i can find out which process is using apt. i cannot run adept because it says a process is already using it, even after reboot??
[07:11] <omar> hay joemaxx, do you know a program to download free mp3, like ares or kassa but for kubunteros???
[07:11] <omar> mas claro no puedo ser
[07:11] <Healot> omar, please refrain from asking about illegal stuff here
[07:11] <Healot> btw, there some p2p programs like frostwire
[07:12] <firesuite_> could anyone help. it says - You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.\\\ any ideas???
[07:12] <firesuite_> even after a reboot
[07:12] <firesuite_> my database is locked :(
[07:13] <weas3l> booo
[07:13] <snake> does apt-get log?
[07:14] <snake> anyone?
[07:15] <firesuite_> apt-get for me says (13 permission denied) unable to lock the list directory---anyone??
[07:15] <snake> firephoto, some other program is using it
[07:15] <Healot> prefix sudo
[07:16] <snake> firephoto, or you need to put "sudo" infront of it
[07:16] <firesuite_> okey i'll try
[07:16] <Healot> firesuite_
[07:16] <snake> oops
[07:16] <snake> sorry firephoto , ment firesuite_
[07:16] <Healot> !root > firesuite_
[07:16] <firesuite_> :)
[07:16] <snake> hehe
[07:16] <Healot> i know tab failed you, snake
[07:17] <snake> Tab loves me
[07:17] <snake> its like, my best friend, all the time
[07:17] <snake> ...
[07:17] <snake> not
[07:17] <snake> does apt-get log what it installs, and if so, where can I locate that log
[07:17] <Kr4t05> I want to cry... ><
[07:17] <snake> Cool
[07:17] <firesuite_> so could anyone tell me how i can find out wich other program is using adept?
[07:17] <link_36p> guys im trying to fizx this apt-get error i keep getting -http://pastebin.ca/165749
[07:20] <calcmandan> I have no idea.
[07:23] <firesuite_> what other programs would use the package manager that could lock the database??
[07:23] <firesuite_> i look in process and cant make out what most of them are
[07:24] <Healot> any GUI isntaller, apt-get, aptitude
[07:24] <snake> Im going insane
[07:24] <snake> does apt-get log what it installs, and if so, where can I locate that log
[07:24] <firesuite_> i couldnt see any of them in process. even after i reboot it says database locked and ...ou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:24] <Healot> link_36p: you installed that debian package and broke the install.
[07:25] <Healot> i think you can totally remove/purge the package first...
[07:29] <unix_infidel> hey guys it seems i cant write a bin cue pair with k3b as it says it cant find the bin image?
[07:29] <unix_infidel> when i've verified the path and the placement of the bin cue pair in the same folder.
[07:29] <unix_infidel> as has k3b when it spits out the information for the bin file and the cue file.
[07:30] <plugs> what is "nspluginviewer"?
[07:32] <llxcamxll> hey dudes, how do i install a .run file
[07:34] <firesuite_> hey i fixed my problem with the locked database not letting me run adept.. anyone wanna know what happened????
[07:34] <llxcamxll> can anyone tell me how to install a .run file
[07:34] <llxcamxll> i'm new to this
[07:35] <Deadalus> what happened? firesuite
[07:36] <Healot> sh filename << replace filename with the actual filename
[07:36] <firesuite_> a previous installation of firestarter failed and coudltn download everything and it locked the database.. to unlock it you type "sudo dpkg --configure -a " it now all works again yay!!
[07:37] <junkphreak> ./test.run
[07:38] <junkphreak> may have to chmod 755 test.run
[07:38] <llxcamxll> k
[07:40] <llxcamxll> no workies
[07:41] <Kr4t05> http://pastebin.ca/165813  <- xawtv being a butt about my webcam.
[07:43] <llxcamxll> lift off
[07:48] <junkphreak> whats the file your trying to do
[07:48] <junkphreak> ncm
[07:57] <gogeta> hi
[07:57] <plugs> does anyone know what nspluginviewer is?
[07:57] <gogeta> tryingto install ssh serve into a frends pc
[07:57] <gogeta> keeps saying it cant fine openssh-server
[07:57] <weas3l> !nspluginviewer
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginviewer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <weas3l> nope.
[07:58] <plugs> think it has sumpin to do with web browsers
[07:59] <ahmeni> plugs: nspluginviewer is what konqueror uses to embed firefox plugins, like flash
[08:00] <plugs> ah thanks
[08:01] <diego> hi
[08:01] <gogeta> anyone knoe whats up with openssh
[08:01] <diego> how can i turn konversation into spanish ?
[08:01] <gogeta> apt-get whont findit
[08:01] <Tachyon> When I click Log Off from the menu, the only option I get is to end the session.  How can I add "restart", "shutdown", etc?
[08:02] <Healot> spell it conversacion :)
[08:06] <gogeta> humm
[08:06] <Healot> !find openssh
[08:06] <ubotu> Found: openssh-client, openssh-server
[08:08] <gogeta> tryed it
[08:09] <gogeta> josh@josh-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:09] <gogeta> Reading package lists... Done
[08:09] <gogeta> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:09] <gogeta> E: Couldn't find package openssh-server
[08:10] <Healot> !info openssh-server
[08:10] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[08:11] <Healot> updated the repos yet, gogeta?
[08:11] <gogeta> fresh install
[08:12] <gogeta> openssh should be in the standerd ones
[08:13] <Healot> then, update the repos :0
[08:13] <Healot> by the optional components are not installed by default
[08:19] <rodimus> when i do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" i get "Could't find package openssh-server" what am I doing wrong?
[08:20] <Healot> update the repos list, pronto! fresh install, bigGrim?
[08:23] <bigGrim> Healot: yes it is a clean install from cd...
[08:23] <bigGrim> healot: how do i update teh repos list?
[08:24] <Healot> sudo apt-get update
[08:24] <Healot> or use your favorite gui installer like adept or synaptic
[08:24] <Healot> !repos > bigGrim
[08:25] <bigGrim> Healot: that didnt do anything...
[08:27] <Healot> !repos
[08:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:27] <Healot> follow the links below, read, learn, and diy
[08:32] <azazel> #kubuntu-fr
[08:37] <alexicon> hi all
[08:38] <alexicon> right so im looking to move my /home to a new mount point
[08:38] <alexicon> ive reformated and copied everything over to the new point
[08:38] <alexicon> then i just need to add to fstab?
[08:39] <alexicon> and mntab mtab whathaveyou
[08:41] <Healot> change the entry of /home to the new device ;0
[08:47] <ubuntu> hi
[08:50] <pierreth> hello, i have a crash when i put a cd in my reader, what can i do?
[08:52] <alexicon> what program are you using pierreth
[08:52] <pierreth> i am using kubuntu
[08:52] <alexicon> or just any cd in your drive?
[08:52] <pierreth> yes
[08:52] <alexicon> kubuntu installed on the harddrive? or livecd?
[08:52] <pierreth> harddrive
[08:53] <pierreth> i am two cd reader
[08:53] <pierreth> one for reading only
[08:53] <alexicon> does it try to bring up the window asking what to do with the disc, or does it just crash as soon as you close the drive?
[08:53] <pierreth> no, it crash the whole system before that
[08:53] <alexicon> hrmm
[08:53] <Deadalus> do you have just installed one of your cd-rom
[08:54] <Deadalus> or dvd-rom
[08:54] <alexicon> ive only got one
[08:54] <alexicon> does it crash with both of your drives?
[08:54] <Deadalus> i go that problem once
[08:54] <pierreth> yes, but it is a fresh install on a new computer
[08:54] <pierreth> no, just the cd burner
[08:54] <pierreth> the other one is just reader
[08:55] <alexicon> and the reader works ok?
[08:55] <pierreth> yes
[08:55] <Deadalus> it was my power supply (to much for it) when I install a brand new dvd-burner
[08:55] <alexicon> ;/
[08:55] <alexicon> have you tried the burner in windows or another distro?
[08:55] <alexicon> try to boot a livecd off it, to check if it still works properly
[08:55] <pierreth> yes, it works with windows
[08:55] <alexicon> weird
[08:56] <alexicon> with any cd it crashes? or only blank cds?
[08:56] <pierreth> the live cd is unable to install from it
[08:56] <alexicon> hrm
[08:56] <alexicon> maybe the hardware is unsupported
[08:56] <pierreth> i don't know about blank cd
[08:56] <alexicon> what company is the drive?
[08:56] <pierreth> ricoh
[08:56] <pierreth> audio cd crash
[08:56] <alexicon> ok
[08:56] <pierreth> inserting the live cd crash
[08:57] <pierreth> but i was able to start the install with the live cd with this drive
[08:57] <alexicon> strange
[08:57] <pierreth> but when mounting the file system, it crash
[08:57] <alexicon> maybe it hasnt detected the drive properly, i dont really know of an error like that
[08:58] <alexicon> :/
[08:58] <pierreth> there is noting i can do?
[08:58] <alexicon> maybe try to put a cd in while you are in vt terminal
[08:58] <alexicon> no X windows
[08:58] <pierreth> ok
[08:58] <alexicon> dont know if dmesg watches the cdrom
[08:59] <alexicon> myabe run a 'watch dmesg' while you put in a new cd
[08:59] <alexicon> see if any errors come up
[08:59] <pierreth> but it will crash the computer
[09:00] <alexicon> maybe its only X that is locking up?
[09:00] <pierreth> may the drive is not atapi
[09:00] <alexicon> i dont know where youd have to change that
[09:01] <alexicon> its probably safer to try the cdrom outside of X, might crash, or it might give you an error then crash :)
[09:01] <pierreth> ok
[09:01] <pierreth> i lost a lot of time before i was able to find this was the problem
[09:02] <alexicon> sorry :/
[09:02] <pierreth> don't be :-)
[09:02] <alexicon> i probably dont know enough to help you too much, but if you have an exact error to show someone else :)
[09:02] <pierreth> ok i will try, it just not fun to crah the system
[09:03] <alexicon> yeah heh
[09:04] <pierreth> alexicon: i saw something weird
[09:05] <alexicon> ooh?
[09:05] <pierreth> in /dev, i have cdrom and cdrw both pointhing to hdd
[09:05] <alexicon> ah
[09:05] <pierreth> but i have hdc too
[09:05] <pierreth> could it be the problem?
[09:05] <alexicon> yeah sounds like
[09:06] <alexicon> are those saved in the fstab with the drives?
[09:06] <pierreth> how can i change this?
[09:06] <alexicon> i only know about checking the fstab and mtab
[09:06] <alexicon>  /etc/fstab
[09:06] <alexicon>  /etc/mtab or mntab
[09:06] <halfbloodprince> my kubuntu iso download is 30.3% done
[09:07] <alexicon> heh
[09:07] <pierreth> in fstab i have just hdc
[09:07] <halfbloodprince> man, i have a 64kbps connection
[09:07] <alexicon> and whats hdc linked to?
[09:07] <alexicon> hdc what?
[09:07] <alexicon> hdc1?
[09:07] <alexicon> lol halfbloodprince
[09:07] <alexicon> gl
[09:07] <halfbloodprince> thanks.. i should have the whole thing in another 2 days
[09:08] <pierreth> g
[09:08] <alexicon> hope you got one of those download continuers, wouldnt want to see your connection drop out on you :P
[09:08] <halfbloodprince> i'm downloading the torrent
[09:08] <alexicon> goodgood
[09:09] <pierreth> alexicon: how can i type a slash?
[09:09] <alexicon> ok ive got to go unmount my /home and reboot
[09:09] <alexicon> brb
[09:09] <alexicon>  /
[09:09] <alexicon> heh
[09:09] <alexicon> @_@
[09:09] <pierreth> so two slash
[09:09] <alexicon> oh
[09:09] <alexicon> huh
[09:09] <alexicon> what are you doing?
[09:09] <alexicon> in fstab?
[09:09] <pierreth> /media//cdrom0
[09:10] <pierreth> yes
[09:10] <pierreth> you asked about the link
[09:10] <halfbloodprince> i thought all this mounting was done automatially?
[09:10] <halfbloodprince> automatically*
[09:10] <alexicon> hrmm i dunno pierreth
[09:10] <alexicon> i really gotta run tho
[09:10] <alexicon> gl
[09:10] <pierreth> ok
[09:32] <root_> hello - testing
[09:32] <root_> How do i change my Nick?
[09:35] <henrym> root_: /nick newNick - replace newNick with whatever you want to change your nick to
[09:49] <drumline> what's the longest file name I can have on a Linux box?
[09:51] <henrym> drumline: IIRC, the longest path name can be 256 chars, so I imagine if the file was in '/' then it could have a name 255 chars long
[09:52] <drumline> henrym: ahh...   drat it all to heck anyway...
[09:52] <voicu> the longest path name in linux?
[09:52] <drumline> henrym: I have the displeasure of copying files into a samba share that are just a bit too long...
[09:53] <henrym> drumline: ahh
[09:53] <voicu> that's a small limit, only 256 chars?
[09:54] <expx> ?
[09:54] <henrym> voicu: I'm not 100% sure
[09:55] <voicu> ok...
[09:57] <henrym> voicu, drumline: my bad.. max filename length is 255 chars, max path length is 4096
[09:58] <voicu> okay
[10:08] <p0mppu> Hi all..again about iPods. How can I add a mime type for iPods so when I plug one in, I can add some functions to the "What would you like to do" -window? At the moment, if I add something (like open Amarok), it'll be shown every time _any_ mass storage disk is plugged in..
[10:09] <_bender_> Hmm...so many coming and going
[10:09] <_bender_> and yes I've returned...StarCraft demanded my attention :p
[10:14] <Dendeigh> Hi all - I am looking for a AMD AM2-Board with great linux-support; any suggestions?
[10:16] <ph0bi4> Dendeigh: where are u from?
[10:17] <p0mppu> nobody familiar with mime types? really? :(
[10:19] <hans-gnter> firefox
[10:20] <Dendeigh> ph0bi4: germany
[10:22] <Dendeigh> p0mppu: what would you like to know about mimetypes?
[10:23] <p0mppu> Dendeigh: I'd like to know how or if I can add a mime type for iPod devices, so that I could assign some "functions" (like open Amarok) on the list when an iPod player is connected; at the moment, if I add such a thing, it is displayed with every mass storage device
[10:24] <p0mppu> at the moment the closest mime type is "mass storage device"
[10:25] <Dendeigh> k, didn't even know that devices have mimetypes
[10:26] <Dendeigh> doesn't amarok has some support for iPod and other usb-mp3-devices  itself?
[10:26] <p0mppu> yes, but I'd like to get an option in the list that pops up when I connect an iPod, that would let me launch Amarok
[10:27] <p0mppu> I'm not sure if they're mimetypes actually but that's what KDE Control Center calls them
[10:27] <halfbloodprince> does anyone here know about installing fonts in linux
[10:28] <p0mppu> I can add such an option actually but it is then visible even if I plug in a normal usb mass storage stick, which can't even play anything..and that shouldn't be visible then
[10:28] <Lilandra> hi, anybody around?
[10:28] <halfbloodprince> hi Lilandra
[10:28] <Lilandra> hi halfbloodprince
[10:28] <Lilandra> there's a guy using knoppix that would be grateful for kde help...
[10:29] <Lilandra> he would like help in moving his panel to the top of the screen by default instead of to the bottom
[10:30] <halfbloodprince> you mean the taskbar?
[10:30] <Dendeigh> p0mppu: not a clue, where this is managed, but it probably should have something to do with KDE interacting with HAL (hardware abstraction layer)
[10:30] <Lilandra> yeah i guess so
[10:30] <JhonnyB> hi
[10:30] <Lilandra> yes the taskbar...with the big K
[10:30] <Lilandra> hi JhonnyB
[10:30] <JhonnyB> yes right
[10:30] <p0mppu> Dendeigh: yes I think so..I just wonder where I can add/tell KDE iPod is something different than a normal usb stick
[10:31] <JhonnyB> is there a way to set it on the top by default?
[10:31] <p0mppu> but I guess I'll need to search information about HAL rather than KDE itself..thanks anyway
[10:32] <halfbloodprince> just grab it and drag it to the top?
[10:32] <Lilandra> ooo! really?
[10:32] <JhonnyB> is there a way to make it by default?
[10:32] <halfbloodprince> it works with the taskbar
[10:32] <halfbloodprince> not sure about the kmenu
[10:33] <halfbloodprince> !truetype
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <halfbloodprince> !fonts
[10:33] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[10:33] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[10:33] <JhonnyB> ok how hard it is it configure ubuntu hardware drivers in knoppix?
[10:35] <halfbloodprince> JhonnyB: I didn't get your question
[10:35] <JhonnyB> there r ubuntu drivers available for my pc, can i make them work with knoppix?
[10:36] <JhonnyB> coz only knoppix works on usb thumb with my pc
[10:36] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: are you running knoppix off the CD/DVD or did you install it to your hard disk?
[10:37] <JhonnyB> im running it from my usb memory stick
[10:38] <Dendeigh> ok, what driver is not working/present?
[10:38] <JhonnyB> first of all my vga,
[10:38] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: nvidia?
[10:38] <JhonnyB> that why the bottom portion where task bar is, always out of screen range
[10:39] <JhonnyB> then wifi not workin, and my wacom pen driver
[10:39] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: what graphics card do you have?
[10:40] <JhonnyB> its ali
[10:40] <JhonnyB> but my pc is a very different and new thing
[10:40] <JhonnyB> its the smallest pc available so far
[10:40] <JhonnyB> www.oqo.com
[10:41] <JhonnyB> u can have a look there
[10:41] <JhonnyB> on the website, ubuntu drivers r available
[10:42] <diego> does anybody know how to use cinelerra !??!
[10:42] <Tm_T> what's "!??!" ?
[10:42] <diego> I recent installed it and i dont know how to import files
[10:42] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: looks like lots of exotic hardware, but nice :-)
[10:42] <JhonnyB> yeh thanks Dendeigh
[10:43] <JhonnyB> im really struggling to make it work with usb
[10:43] <Dendeigh> I can imagine
[10:43] <JhonnyB> it does boot knoppix ok,
[10:43] <JhonnyB> only prob is drives\
[10:44] <Dendeigh> what does the following command tell you? "lspci|grep -ie vga"
[10:44] <JhonnyB> or atleast if im able to set the taskbar on top by efault
[10:44] <JhonnyB> umm do i need to run it?
[10:44] <Dendeigh> in a shell
[10:45] <JhonnyB> im very new ti linux
[10:45] <JhonnyB> ok holdon, let me start knoppix on it
[10:45] <Dendeigh> do hit ALT+F2 and then type "konsole"
[10:45] <JhonnyB> gime a minute to load knoppix
[10:47] <JhonnyB> im loading it Dendeigh
[10:47] <Lilandra> JhonnyB: that's...CUTE!
[10:47] <JhonnyB> tanx Lilandra
[10:47] <JhonnyB> yeh its a nice machine
[10:47] <JhonnyB> aww
[10:47] <halfbloodprince> is it possible to configure one's network settings manually? like my dns servers, ip address and default gateway?
[10:47] <Lilandra> except for that xp thing but aside from that :)
[10:47] <halfbloodprince> tcp/ip properties in general
[10:48] <JhonnyB> yes exectly
[10:48] <kakalto> does anyone know of a lightweight graphical spreadsheet application
[10:48] <JhonnyB> its smaller than a pda and it runs everything
[10:48] <Dendeigh> halfbloodprince: you may edit /etc/networking/interfaces (or is the dirs name network, don't remember)
[10:48] <fdoving> kakalto: like 'kspread' ?
[10:49] <kuzmaster> hey all
[10:49] <kakalto> fdoving: yeah, sounds about right
[10:49] <halfbloodprince> Dendeigh: How do I do that? Is there any easier GUI method? Like somewhere in the control panel?
[10:49] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:49] <halfbloodprince> huh?
[10:50] <fdoving> halfbloodprince: can't you do that in system settings -> network?
[10:50] <JhonnyB> ok daniloc its loaded, can u please tell me wat do i do ?
[10:50] <lupine_85> the static IPs and stuff :). change 'iface <interface> inet dhcp' to 'iface <interface> inet static'
[10:50] <halfbloodprince> lupine, this is all going over my head :p
[10:50] <daniloc> JhonnyB:what ?
[10:50] <halfbloodprince> is there an easier way where i can just enter the addresses in text boxes and click save?
[10:50] <lupine_85> you know what a file and an editor is, I'm sure :)
[10:51] <JhonnyB> ok dandeigh its loaded, can u please tell me wat do i do ?
[10:51] <halfbloodprince> someone suggested something from Alt + F2
[10:51] <lupine_85> but there's network settings in system settings
[10:51] <JhonnyB> sorry daniloc i meant to ask him
[10:51] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+f2 is a terminal ;)
[10:51] <halfbloodprince> someone said alt + f2 > network settings or something
[10:51] <lupine_85> System Settings->Network Settings. I've never used it though
[10:51] <Lilandra> did you get the terminal JhonnyB?
[10:51] <halfbloodprince> doesnt the gui way work?
[10:52] <lupine_85> it might do
[10:52] <daniloc> ok JhonnyB :)
[10:52] <JhonnyB> how to get it Lilandra?
[10:52] <halfbloodprince> or else, what's the tough way
[10:52] <lupine_85> alt+f2 is run command, lol
[10:52] <JhonnyB> aww sorry im very new to linux
[10:52] <Lilandra> yeah
[10:52] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince: the 'tough' (actually really easy) way is to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces
[10:52] <fdoving> halfbloodprince: kmenu -> system settings -> network
[10:52] <JhonnyB> ok wat commant should i type?
[10:52] <Lilandra> alt + f2 and type konsole in the dialog box that pops up (that's what...dand...said)
[10:53] <Lilandra> then hit enter
[10:53] <JhonnyB> thanks Lilandra
[10:53] <Lilandra> heh..i'm just *repeating*
[10:53] <Zkyez> anyone tested kde4 from the debs?
[10:53] <halfbloodprince> fdoving: in system settings -> network,  i can add my ip address, default gateway and primary and secondary dns servers?
[10:53] <JhonnyB> ok its on a prompt
[10:54] <Lilandra> then type "lspci|grep -ie vga" without the quotes and hit enter
[10:54] <JhonnyB> k
[10:54] <Lilandra> and that's what Dandeigh was asking you for so he could see the hardware
[10:54] <fdoving> halfbloodprince: yes.
[10:54] <Lilandra> beyond that i dunno
[10:54] <halfbloodprince> fdoving: awesome!
[10:55] <halfbloodprince> fdoving: so my move to kubuntu is going to be really easy :p
[10:55] <Lilandra> does it give any output?
[10:55] <JhonnyB> its sayz command not found
[10:55] <halfbloodprince> man, in suse, i had to search all over for some place where i could enter my network settings.. it was killing me.. it took me like 6 hours to figure it out
[10:55] <JhonnyB> i typed ispci|greb -ie vga
[10:56] <lupine_85> grep :)
[10:56] <Lilandra> :)
[10:56] <lupine_85> (searches for text)
[10:56] <JhonnyB> ops
[10:56] <Lilandra> i'm just drooling at your computer. maybe my sister would want it.
[10:56] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: the other way that you're saying is that i should double click on the 'interfaces' file?
[10:56] <Lilandra> and
[10:56] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince: you'd need to edit it as root/sudo
[10:56] <Lilandra> lspci i think
[10:56] <Lilandra> jhonnyb: lspci not ispci...
[10:56] <JhonnyB> still say command not found
[10:57] <lupine_85> so in that alt+f2 box, 'kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces' would do the trick
[10:57] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: Okay, i'm a total dummy here :p say i open the konsole.. what do i type in there
[10:57] <Lilandra> it's l as in lilandra
[10:57] <Lilandra> :)
[10:57] <Lilandra> lspci
[10:57] <lupine_85> ^ ^
[10:57] <halfbloodprince> ah okay
[10:57] <Lilandra> jhonnyb...
[10:57] <lupine_85> same text will work in console
[10:57] <JhonnyB> yes?
[10:57] <toni__> ciao
[10:57] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: thanks
[10:57] <lupine_85> ciao tony
[10:57] <JhonnyB> ahhh
[10:57] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: can i ask you about fonts?
[10:57] <Lilandra> jhonnyb: lspci not ispci
[10:58] <lupine_85> you can ask, but I don't know very much :)
[10:58] <toni__> ragazzi chi pu aiutarmi con i permessi?
[10:58] <JhonnyB> ok it gave some output
[10:58] <lupine_85> !it
[10:58] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:58] <Zkyez> toni: go ahead :)
[10:58] <JhonnyB> tanx Lilandra ur nice
[10:58] <JhonnyB> ok the output is
[10:58] <Lilandra> jhonnyb: wait
[10:58] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: instead of installing fonts from adept or automatix or whatever.. can i just burn my windows fonts to a cd, and copy them into some folder?
[10:58] <Lilandra> loads of lines?
[10:58] <Lilandra> or just one?
[10:58] <JhonnyB> Dendeigh ive got the output
[10:58] <toni__> ok
[10:58] <JhonnyB> just one
[10:58] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: say, '/home/<username>/.fonts
[10:58] <lupine_85> KDE has a Forn Installer in System Settings
[10:58] <lupine_85> Font*
[10:58] <Lilandra> ..ok?
[10:59] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: what does it say?
[10:59] <lupine_85> don't know if it'll eat .ttf files though
[10:59] <JhonnyB> it picks up my silicon display
[10:59] <JhonnyB> it sayz
[10:59] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince: ok, it can use .ttf files so yes you could
[11:00] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: i checked on the ubuntu website (not kubuntu), and it said,  i can just paste fonts either in home/username/.fonts, or usr/share/fonts something
[11:00] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: paste the complete line, pls / so I can see what chipset your maching has
[11:00] <JhonnyB> 000:00:06.0 vga compatable controler: silicon motion inc. sm720 lynx30m (rev c1)
[11:00] <lupine_85> cool, do that then :). The former is personal, the latter is system-wide
[11:00] <JhonnyB> i cant past coz its another pc
[11:00] <JhonnyB> knoppix is running on my oqo
[11:01] <Dendeigh> forgot, sorry :-)
[11:01] <Lilandra> takes awhile to type :)
[11:01] <toni__> lupen potresti venire nella chat italiana per darmi una mano grazie
[11:01] <JhonnyB> so thats wat it sayz
[11:01] <halfbloodprince> yeah.. i figured.. that'll work, though, right? coz a friend told me that automatix/adept takes the most time to install fonts and google earth.. and since i dont want google earth, i was just worried about the fonts.. until now, that is -- i can just copy them from a cd!
[11:01] <JhonnyB> yes Lilandra :)
[11:01] <Lilandra> :)
[11:01] <lupine_85> JhonnyB: there's a "siliconmotion" driver. Try that
[11:01] <JhonnyB> where lup?
[11:02] <JhonnyB> u get anything Dendeigh?
[11:03] <kuzmaster> what kind of specks do to use those special effects that you can have in kubuntu (somithng to do with x.org, xrender, xcompisite and xdamage)
[11:03] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: apparently, typing fonts:/// in konqueror goes straight to the fonts folder
[11:03] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: yes the siliconmotion driver seems to support your sm720 http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man4/siliconmotion.4.html
[11:03] <lupine_85> just change the current driver in your xorg.conf to read "siliconmotion". source is http://web.mit.edu/jjl/www/mm10/XF86Config.txt (Section "Device")
[11:03] <kuzmaster> !x.org
[11:03] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:03] <kuzmaster> 1xrender
[11:03] <JhonnyB> but it doesnt work correctly then
[11:03] <kuzmaster> !xrender
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrender - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <JhonnyB> ahh im very new to linix, i dono how to do that :(
[11:05] <lupine_85> JhonnyB: 'kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces' (or edit as root in whatever manner is best for you)
[11:05] <lupine_85> scroll down until you see a line that reads Section "Device"
[11:05] <Dendeigh> lupine_85: wrong file :-)
[11:05] <lupine_85> erm, yeah
[11:05] <Lilandra> i was wondering
[11:05] <lupine_85> d'uh lol
[11:05] <Lilandra> :)
[11:05] <lupine_85>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:06] <JhonnyB> i dont have etc dir
[11:06] <Dendeigh> JhonnyB: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:06] <JhonnyB> remember im running from usb
[11:06] <lupine_85> JhonnyB: if you don't have a /etc, then you don't have alinux install
[11:06] <JhonnyB> umm
[11:06] <Lilandra> JhonnyB: in the konsole, what's the current directory?
[11:07] <Lilandra> pwd <enter>
[11:07] <JhonnyB> how to fint it?
[11:07] <Lilandra> remember the terminal/konsole that you had to do the lspci in?
[11:07] <JhonnyB> it say
[11:07] <JhonnyB> knoppix@[knoppix] $
[11:08] <Lilandra> right
[11:08] <Lilandra> do "pwd" and hit enter
[11:08] <Lilandra> what does that say?
[11:08] <JhonnyB> it say
[11:08] <kuzmaster> !xgl
[11:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:09] <halfbloodprince> can i see the kubuntu 6.06 cd cover anywhere
[11:09] <JhonnyB> it say /ramdisk/home/knoppix
[11:09] <Lilandra> hmm
[11:09] <Lilandra> can you edit stuff on /ramdisk? i never am sure
[11:10] <Lilandra> i've apt-getted on a live cd before
[11:10] <JhonnyB> i dono
[11:10] <Lilandra> that's the ramdisk right?
[11:10] <JhonnyB> well
[11:10] <Lilandra> well you could try
[11:10] <j2daosh> anyone under konversation in here?
[11:10] <JhonnyB> it boots from usb, then it creats ramdisk too i guess
[11:10] <Lilandra>    /ramdisk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <kuzmaster> which is less resorce intensive, xgl or compiz?
[11:11] <lupine_85> editing stuff on a ramdisc is pointless
[11:11] <Lilandra> well it doesn't save does it?
[11:11] <j2daosh> how do i look up a channel list on konversation?
[11:11] <Lilandra> if it's on his usb drive, can't he like find the files on his usb?
[11:11] <Lilandra> to change?
[11:11] <JhonnyB> well it seems i have very dirrerent structure
[11:11] <lupine_85> j2daosh: F5
[11:11] <j2daosh> :) thank you
[11:12] <JhonnyB> cant find /etc
[11:12] <lupine_85> JhonnyB: they're likely compressed and hidden somewhere. And TBH we're well beyond the realms of kubuntu support now
[11:12] <JhonnyB> i see
[11:12] <fdoving> halfbloodprince: did you find the network settings in system settings?
[11:12] <JhonnyB> i downloaded this whole thing from their website
[11:12] <lupine_85> kuzmaster: no idea
[11:13] <kuzmaster> which is better?
[11:13] <kuzmaster> do you no?
[11:13] <imbrandon> kuzmaster, you cant have one without the other, thats like asking what taste better a apple or a car bumper
[11:13] <fdoving> kuzmaster: compiz use xgl, so you need both to get anywhere.
[11:13] <halfbloodprince> fdoving: yes, found em
[11:13] <halfbloodprince> ubuntu is so damn easy!
[11:13] <halfbloodprince> suse made me work so hard for easy stuff
[11:13] <imbrandon> s/ubuntu/kubuntu ;)
[11:13] <halfbloodprince> stuff that should have been easy*
[11:14] <fdoving> imbrandon: '*ubuntu' :)
[11:14] <imbrandon> fdoving, blasphmey ;)
[11:14] <imbrandon> hehe
[11:15] <fdoving> hah.. :)
[11:15] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, fdoving, oh k, thanxs
[11:16] <kuzmaster> ill download compiz?
[11:16] <Lilandra> JhonnyB: have you looked at what other people have done on the oqo?
[11:17] <kuzmaster> what is the gears thing called, that you can run in konsole
[11:18] <kuzmaster> clgears or somthing?
[11:18] <Zkyez> glxgears?
[11:18] <Lilandra> lupine_85!
[11:19] <alex_yo> how to removw my mouse cursor and install it again? he is a transparent quadrat
[11:19] <halfbloodprince> fdoving: have you used automatix?
[11:23] <kuzmaster> is it alright to download/install compiz using adept?
[11:23] <kuzmaster> or do i have to use cli to do that?
[11:24] <alex_yo> please help me!
[11:26] <fdoving> halfbloodprince: automatix is not recommended.
[11:26] <fdoving> ?? automatix
[11:26] <fdoving> !automatix
[11:26] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:26] <Healot> both do the same thing, clive master
[11:27] <fdoving> have to go babysitt my kid.
[11:27] <fdoving> bye.
[11:27] <halfbloodprince> bye,,
[11:27] <halfbloodprince> why does everyone say it's not recommended :\
[11:27] <halfbloodprince> i mean some people say that it works great.. some say that it's not safe
[11:30] <SpaN-> is this the channel for ppc support?
[11:31] <esben> I don't think anyone would mind, but on the other hand, I'm not sure that many ppc people hang around here
[11:32] <Ash-Fox> !hardware
[11:32] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:32] <Ash-Fox> Hm
[11:33] <SpaN-> hm but i think its got to do with hardware, i get a hangup while performing installation just after partitioning
[11:34] <esben> SpaN-: There is a log file from the installation. Anything there?
[11:35] <cox377> does anyone know how i can get this radio web page to function properly under linux "http://rope.icgo.fimc.net/staticweb/onair_players/onair_southern/player/onair_southernNS.html"
[11:36] <SpaN-> i have no OS at the moment, i used a ppc version of mandrake 10.1 but after formatting and partitioning to install kubuntu it will crash just when starting installation
[11:37] <SpaN-> so when i reboot there is no filesystem
[11:39] <esben> SpaN-: Maybe you should do the partitioning manually and skip that step in the installtion of Kubuntu? I know I had problem with the Kubuntu/parted part on a laptop recently
[11:40] <kutan> Can someone tell me how to install this theme?
[11:40] <kutan> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=44951
[11:40] <Vegeta> Why is it that I can't make the operator "^" in Maple? I could do that in Windows, but now it just sets the 1. sign after pressing the operator (which is not shown) to uppercase. Even when you press "Shift+" and the space it doesn't show it. Why?
[11:41] <PuaS> nadie habla espaol?
[11:45] <halfbloodprince> umm people, my root username and password will be the ones i chose during installation, right?
[11:46] <kutan> yeah
[11:46] <halfbloodprince> cool
[11:46] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: did you explicitly create a root user?
[11:46] <_bender_> Hey, where does Kubuntu usually keep the crash error logs?
[11:46] <esben> kutan: I don't think it is correctly packaged. You could untar it (with Ark, e.g) and install the components, though
[11:46] <esben> _bender_: What crashed? The .xsession-error is a good place probably, depending on what crashed :)
[11:46] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: no, i haven't installed yet, i just want to know this stuff before i install
[11:47] <_bender_> I'm not sure exactly what, it was the equivilant of a Windows BSOD
[11:47] <kutan> Well houw would I do that esben?
[11:47] <kutan> how*
[11:47] <_bender_> The entire system locked, then the screen blanked on me
[11:47] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: in (k)ubuntu, the root user is disabled by default, the normal user gets root privileges using 'sudo'
[11:47] <esben> kutan: Start by clicking on the link and select "open in Ark"
[11:48] <_bender_> and .xsession-error eh, gonna take a look at it (if can find it lol)
[11:48] <halfbloodprince> okay.. so i can use sudo commands for installing stuff, right? using my normal user info?
[11:48] <kutan> Well I know that much, but I'm not sure about installing the components
[11:48] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: yes, using *your* own password :)
[11:48] <esben> kutan: Nor do I, really.
[11:48] <kutan> lol..
[11:48] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: cool, thanks :)
[11:49] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: no problem :)
[11:50] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: i love that it's really easy to set up my network settings manually using kubuntu.. i had used suse some time ago, and it was hell
[11:50] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: once i install kubuntu, the first thing i'll do is change all the blue.. there's too much blue :p
[11:50] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: well, its KDE, what do you expect :)
[11:51] <abattoir> all the blue goodness :)
[11:52] <halfbloodprince> there's a way to change all the blue, right?
[11:52] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: yes, sure, you can change almost whatever you want
[11:53] <abattoir> www.kde-look.org is a nice place to start
[11:53] <halfbloodprince> i did check out kde-look.org, but i didn't get how they classify stuff
[11:53] <halfbloodprince> i mean, i dont know if themes are distro-specific, or desktop environment specific
[11:54] <abattoir> no, the normal packages should work w/ any distro, but ofcourse, they are KDE-specific :P
[11:54] <madmat> ciao
[11:54] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: thanks
[11:54] <abattoir> there are sometimes packages which are made for specific distros, avoid those...
[11:58] <halfbloodprince> cool
[11:58] <halfbloodprince> kubuntu seems to be very cool indeed
[11:58] <halfbloodprince> i've finished downloading some 31% of the iso
[11:58] <halfbloodprince> and, of course, you guys are awesome :)
[11:59] <_bender_> Very cool minus this random crashyness :( sigh
[11:59] <_bender_> lol
[12:00] <abattoir> _bender_: when does it crash?
[12:00] <abattoir> _bender_: and what crashes?
[12:00] <halfbloodprince> there is random crashyness?
[12:01] <abattoir> no
[12:02] <_bender_> it's not random crashyness for everybody, my bad, just for me
[12:02] <_bender_> and it happens at random, first time while browsing through system settings, the next while in Konqueror touching a drop down menu
[12:02] <abattoir> _bender_: what crashes?
[12:02] <halfbloodprince> i'm mostly worried about my screen resolution
[12:02] <abattoir> do the individual apps. crash?
[12:02] <_bender_> The entire system, goes to a black screen
[12:03] <_bender_> and I have to manually reboot the computer to get it back up
[12:03] <_bender_> It's only happened twice so far though
[12:03] <abattoir> _bender_: that's weird
[12:03] <abattoir> what video card?
[12:03] <_bender_> Let me check
[12:03] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: what video card too?
[12:03] <_bender_> (it's an old P3 integrated video so not not sure off by heart)
[12:04] <abattoir> _bender_: was it detected automatically?
[12:04] <halfbloodprince> i have an inbuilt intel video card
[12:04] <_bender_> An Intel i810
[12:04] <_bender_> and yep it was all detected properly
[12:04] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: and what specific resoultion do you need?
[12:04] <abattoir> _bender_: aah, that shouldnt be the problem then
[12:04] <abattoir> _bender_: did these crashes occur recently?
[12:04] <halfbloodprince> minimum 1024 x 768, but right now i use 1152 x 864, which would be nice
[12:04] <abattoir> and have you upgraded to the latest available packages?
[12:04] <_bender_> Yah, but the entire installation is recent also
[12:05] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: you should be able to get it....
[12:05] <_bender_> I did run apt-get update and upgrade recently
[12:05] <_bender_> Would that be what ya mean?
[12:05] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: might require some tweaking though
[12:05] <abattoir> _bender_: yes
[12:05] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: what kind of tweaking
[12:05] <abattoir> _bender_: have those crashes stopped occuring?
[12:05] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: nothing major ;)
[12:05] <_bender_> Nope, had one a few minutes ago (second in total)
[12:05] <azazel> #kubuntu-fr
[12:06] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: do i have to change the refresh rates and frequency and stuff?
[12:06] <_bender_> I come from Windows XP so not really sure where to start looking to determine what's causing the crash :S
[12:06] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: no, you might not have to... first install kubuntu, then we'll come to that :P
[12:07] <_bender_> hmmm...
[12:07] <_bender_> Ok I unplugged the USB Webcam I had plugged in
[12:09] <_bender_> I've heard bad mojo over USB devices (cams in particular) that can take down entire systems
[12:09] <_bender_> Atleast on older boxes...(worth a try)
[12:11] <halfbloodprince> ok..
[12:12] <_bender_> Reaching for an answer...lest I go over to Mandriva or somewhere to see if that fixes it
[12:18] <kutan> Hmmm.. when I'm downloading graphics drivers for my video card, even if I'm using 32-bit linux can I still use AMD-64 because that's the kind of processor I have?
[12:20] <kutan> Anyone?
[12:20] <MetaMorfoziS> which is faster gnome or kde?
[12:21] <tk> kutan: download the version for the kernel you are running
[12:21] <abattoir> kutan: you cant
[12:21] <tk> if you are running 32bit linux, dont get the 64bit driver
[12:21] <tk> hmmm
[12:22] <kutan> okay
[12:25] <vishah> hi, can I export kopete contacts to a file?
[12:26] <abattoir> vishah:
[12:26] <abattoir> sure
[12:26] <abattoir> File->Export contacts
[12:26] <abattoir> will go into a KDE addressbook file
[12:27] <sui> hello everyone
[12:28] <vishah> abattoir, I am trying to import the contacts to another computer..can I save the addressbook to a file?
[12:28] <_bender_> Question...I installed Opera and it dumped it's bin // lib // share // usersettings folders into my Home Folder...is that normal for some applicatoins to do that?
[12:28] <abattoir> vishah: for using it in kopete in that computer?
[12:28] <vishah> abattoir, yes
[12:29] <abattoir> vishah: ok, wait a sec
[12:29] <abattoir> vishah: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/contactlist.xml
[12:31] <vishah> abattoir, I have already tried replacing that file, still when I run kopete it loads the previous contacts
[12:31] <abattoir> vishah: did you delete all the old contactlist files?
[12:32] <vishah> abattoir, you mean contactlist.xml?, yes I deleted that one
[12:32] <abattoir> vishah: there are also a bunch of contactlist.*.new files and there is also the .bak
[12:32] <abattoir> and was kopete closed when you overwrote that file?
[12:33] <vishah> abattoir, those are also in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/ ?
[12:33] <vishah> abattoir, yes it was
[12:33] <abattoir> vishah: you might also want to delete ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc, or copy it
[12:34] <vishah> abattoir, oh!. that should be it.
[12:34] <vishah> abattoir, thanks a lot
[12:34] <abattoir> vishah: :)
[12:35] <abattoir> vishah: if that doesnt help, try asking at #kopete
[12:35] <vishah> abattoir, yes, thanks again...:)
[12:35] <abattoir> vishah: you're welcome
[12:36] <gogeta> bo
[12:38] <Vegeta> I get the following error when I try to pdflatex: "LaTeX Error: File `maplestd2e.sty' not found." But I do have maplestd2e.sty , how can I add this package to LaTeX?
[12:39] <sui> have a question about my dvd: i followed the instructions i found on a web-page. when i insert a dvd i get this error: [17181782.820000]  hdc: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x06  ascq: 0x00
[12:40] <sui> and i can't change the regioncode with regionset it says: "ERROR: Region code could not be set!"
[12:40] <sui> has anyone an idea?
[12:41] <kutan> Hmmm
[12:41] <kutan> I tried installing the drivers but it said something about "libc" not being installed?
[12:42] <halfbloodprince> anyone over here used automatix?
[12:43] <Zkyez> me
[12:44] <halfbloodprince> Zkyez: you happy with it?
[12:45] <Zkyez> halfbloodprince: it didn`t make any trouble if that is what you mean
[12:45] <gogeta> isnt this odd
[12:45] <gogeta> my tv card dedcided to work
[12:46] <Zkyez> it`s all `bout the season :)
[12:46] <halfbloodprince> Zkyez: okay, thanks :) have you tried upgrading your apps after installing them with automatix?
[12:46] <gogeta> that progy ownez
[12:46] <halfbloodprince> i'm curious about the upgrading thing.. does apt-get upgrade work after usng automatix
[12:46] <Zkyez> halfbloodprince: da
[12:46] <gogeta> somethingii cheched fixed my tv card
[12:46] <gogeta> lol
[12:46] <halfbloodprince> da?
[12:47] <halfbloodprince> gogeta: which progy
[12:47] <gogeta> automatrix
[12:47] <abattoir> sui: is that a region encoded disk?
[12:47] <gogeta> my ati card never worked befor
[12:47] <abattoir> sui: do other discs work?
[12:47] <gogeta> install dcess lol
[12:47] <gogeta> play any dvd
[12:48] <sui> abattoir: mom, i'll try
[12:48] <abattoir> huh
[12:48] <halfbloodprince> ur ati card works after using automatix?
[12:49] <abattoir> sui: ok
[12:49] <orion> hello
[12:49] <orion> waht is this?
[12:50] <orion> what is this?
[12:50] <orion> someone can explain for me how to instal one software here...
[12:51] <maltron> can anyone here help me with locale settings?  I _think_ I want to change LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 to just LANG=en_AU
[12:51] <halfbloodprince> which software?
[12:51] <maltron> but I want to do it system wide
[12:52] <halfbloodprince> Zkyez: does upgrading work?
[12:52] <maltron> and I'd like to know what character encoding is used if it isn't utf-8, and it isn't specified
[12:54] <sui> abattoir: i found one original dvd working (codefree). the others won't play
[12:55] <abattoir> sui: you have libdvdcss installed?
[12:55] <sui> abattoir: yes, libdvdcss2
[12:55] <abattoir> sui: and normal data discs work fine?
[12:56] <abattoir> sui: and also are you sure, the 'others' are region encoded?
[12:59] <sui> abattoir: not all. some are burned telecasts
[12:59] <sui> some others i don't know. got them from friends
[12:59] <abattoir> sui: do cds work?
[01:00] <abattoir> sui: and also, do you have that one original dvd?
[01:00] <abattoir> sui: and also, if you have windows, do these work there?
[01:01] <sui> abattoir: i have to reboot to windows. i like to get them to work with linux :)
[01:01] <abattoir> sui: yes,  i'm just making sure its not a problem w/ the device
[01:01] <sui> abattoir: but just wait a moment, i'll reboot
[01:01] <sui> and yes, cds are working. watching an avi from cd
[01:02] <sui> << brb
[01:07] <arejaytee> do i need to do anything special to get wmv's to play ? xine comes up with an error i cant see it but i can hear it
[01:08] <nikokos> salut ... est ce que quelqu un pourrait m aider sur l installation d une cl wifi?
[01:08] <Ayabara> hi guys. anyone using amarok with an iPod?
[01:09] <Ayabara> how do I make kubuntu mount the iPod so that amarok can find it?
[01:10] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: I don't, but I've heard it's possible to do that
[01:11] <Ayabara> halfbloodprince, it should be. my ipod gets mounted under /media/sdd2 and amarok can't find it. I think it must be under /media/ipod
[01:11] <oliver> why dont you use gtkpod
[01:11] <abattoir> !fr
[01:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:11] <halfbloodprince> try that
[01:11] <Ayabara> oliver, don't know :-) . amarok is my preferred player, so I thought it would be nice if I could make it work
[01:11] <sui> abattoir: results with powerdvd: codefree dvd working, with dvds from friend windows tells me: "no disc in drive" and watching an avi from cd is working
[01:11] <abattoir> !wma > arejaytee
[01:12] <nikokos> personne ne repond sur fr !!! dsol....
[01:12] <abattoir> sui: then either the discs dont work, or there is a problem w/ your drive
[01:12] <abattoir> nikokos: which chipset?
[01:12] <abattoir> !wifi > nikokos
[01:13] <halfbloodprince> i want to know, if i download the tar.gz of an app, where should i save the tar.gz file in order to uncompress it successfully? is there a specific location? /home/ or something?
[01:13] <Zkyez> Ayabara: if , with u`r ipod mounted, you do a "sudo ln -s /media/sdd2 /media/ipod" does your amarok see it?
[01:13] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: nope, you can do it anywhere
[01:13] <Zkyez> halfbloodprince: any place
[01:13] <maltron> halfbloodprince: your home directory is best, wherever you have write privileges
[01:13] <sui> abattoir: hm, ok :(
[01:13] <icheyne> hi all - how do I change the default PDF reader? I used to know, but I have forgotten.
[01:14] <oliver> even if amarok finds it i doubt you will be able to transfer songs to it
[01:14] <maltron> halfbloodprince: eg. /home/halfbloodprince/
[01:14] <abattoir> sui: I suspected that, that's why i asked you to check in windows :)
[01:14] <Ayabara> Zkyez, no, it still can't connect
[01:14] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1469486
[01:14] <nikokos> ok... so... i install my wifi key and when i do ndiswrapper -l : driver and hardware ok... but my key don' find network with wlassistant. so i start wlassistant in command line and i ve an error, key can t scanning network... sorry for my english
[01:15] <Ayabara> oliver, why?
[01:15] <Ayabara> halfbloodprince, thanks
[01:15] <sui> abattoir: its weird. i will try the dvds in a stand-alone dvd-player
[01:15] <kutan_> Okay...
[01:15] <abattoir> icheyne: rt. click on the file->open with-> other, and after selecting your app, 'check' the remember appl. association box...
[01:15] <abattoir> sui: ok
[01:16] <icheyne> abattoir: aha! thanks
[01:16] <abattoir> nikokos: which chipset
[01:16] <icheyne> abattoir: I knew it was obvious
[01:16] <halfbloodprince> before any command, i have to type sudo, right?
[01:16] <abattoir> nikokos: also did you do 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' ?
[01:16] <Zkyez> halfbloodprince: only for root privileges
[01:16] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: not *any* command
[01:16] <nikokos> xg760A
[01:17] <nikokos> yes abattoir
[01:17] <abattoir> nikokos: that's your wireless chipset?
[01:17] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[01:17] <Zkyez> halfbloodprince: sudo gives you root privileges
[01:17] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[01:17] <nikokos> chipset xg760A
[01:17] <abattoir> nikokos: do you see any indication that your adapter is on? any lights?
[01:17] <nikokos> lights ok
[01:18] <nikokos> but i ve an error when i start wlassistant in command line... key can t scanning network
[01:18] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: did that forum thread help?
[01:18] <oliver> because it is not as simple as dragging and dropping music files on to the ipod
[01:19] <oliver> i think it adds it to an xml file or a database that is on the ipod
[01:19] <sui> abattoir: the dvds are okay. i tested some
[01:19] <arejaytee> thanks abattoir
[01:19] <halfbloodprince> if i want to edit a .conf file using kate, i can just drag it in the kate window?
[01:20] <abattoir> sui: then could be your drive?
[01:20] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: sure
[01:20] <Ayabara> halfbloodprince, I'm trying some of the steps out now
[01:20] <sui> halfbloodprince: if you have kate started with root-privileges - yes
[01:20] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: make sure you have permissions to write that file though
[01:20] <halfbloodprince> how do i make sure i have permissions
[01:21] <Ayabara> oliver, ok. I've had gtkpod working before, so maybe I'll try it later today
[01:21] <halfbloodprince> sudo kate whatever.conf ?
[01:21] <Ayabara> now I'm heading outside for fresh air. thanks for the input :-)
[01:21] <sui> halfbloodprince: yes, thats a way
[01:21] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[01:21] <halfbloodprince> what are the other ways?
[01:21] <sui> abattoir: i'll try to change the region-code. otherwise i have to flash the firmware o_O
[01:22] <sui> halfbloodprince: just sudo kate and drop the config files from konqi
[01:22] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[01:23] <halfbloodprince> thanks :)
[01:23] <halfbloodprince> one more n00b question: do i need root privileges to untar a tar.gz file
[01:24] <Zkyez> no
[01:24] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: no you dont, as long as you untar within your home dir.
[01:24] <halfbloodprince> cool
[01:24] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[01:24] <halfbloodprince> yeah
[01:24] <halfbloodprince> i need to untar this client that my isp uses to connect me to the internet
[01:24] <halfbloodprince> they surprisingly have a linux version for this client
[01:24] <Zkyez> what client?
[01:24] <halfbloodprince> yay
[01:24] <halfbloodprince> cyberoam client
[01:25] <halfbloodprince> so, i need to like 'log in' using that to access my internet
[01:25] <halfbloodprince> but i can set it to auto login so that i don't have to keep doing -u username everytime :p
[01:27] <halfbloodprince> so far, kubuntu seems to be really easy to use
[01:40] <halfbloodprince> brb
[01:49] <_ShoGo_> Hi, my x server restarts when I launch "glxinfo", any idea?
[01:52] <maltron> _ShoGo_
[01:52] <tk> wow, ctrl+alt+bkspc is quick, never tried that before
[01:52] <maltron> _ShoGo_: not really, but what gfx card are you using?
[01:54] <_ShoGo_> radeon   9600xt
[01:55] <maltron> _ShoGo_: are you using proprietary drivers?  They always caused me pain
[01:55] <_ShoGo_> Yesterday, I removed xserver-xorg-air-core, or else, and this morning x server didn start so I reinstalled it and then x server started... but i have that problem and now I can't see if I have rendering
[01:55] <_ShoGo_> maltron: i don't know, I can't launch glxinfo
[01:56] <maltron> _ShoGo_: ah, good point. try  lsmod | grep radeon
[01:56] <maltron> what does it say?
[01:56] <_ShoGo_> well, if I launch glxinfo in a text tty, it says; Error, unable to open displayu (null)
[01:57] <DjDarkmanMS> hy ,I moved to another city ,bought another PC ,kept the harddrive ,and I won`t have Internet connection for a while ,I`m currently in an internet cafe and I want to ask ,what should I download to be able to install an ubuntu k8 kernel and how can I make ubuntu reconfigure my network?
[01:57] <_ShoGo_> shogo@shogo-k7:~$ lsmod |grep radeon
[01:57] <_ShoGo_> radeon                119200  1
[01:57] <_ShoGo_> drm                    78292  2 radeon
[01:58] <maltron> _ShoGo_: okay, you're using the open source modules.  Now I could be wrong about this, but I _suspect_ that there is no support in the open source modules for hardware 3d rendering for the the 9600
[01:59] <_ShoGo_> well, I have experimental drivers since I installed kubuntu, and I have always had rendering with them
[01:59] <maltron> _ShoGo_: were they the propietary drivers though?
[02:00] <_ShoGo_> nope, they were experimental driver5s
[02:00] <DjDarkmanMS> can someone tell me what files should I download to be able to install a k8 kernel home?
[02:00] <maltron> _ShoGo_: what do you mean by "experimental"?
[02:00] <_ShoGo_> fglrx
[02:00] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: you have a 64-bit kernel?
[02:00] <maltron> _ShoGo_: yeah, that's propietary
[02:01] <maltron> _ShoGo_: in other words, ATI wrote them themselves and they are not open source
[02:01] <_ShoGo_> mmm
[02:01] <_ShoGo_> "ati" and "fglrx" are propietary drivers thenn?
[02:01] <maltron> _ShoGo_: they are horrible, but that's the only way to get 3d on most newer radeons
[02:01] <Zkyez> yes
[02:01] <Zkyez> so is nvidia
[02:01] <DjDarkmanMS> abattoir yes
[02:01] <DjDarkmanMS> I mean no
[02:01] <DjDarkmanMS> I want to install one
[02:02] <DjDarkmanMS> and I don`t have internet connection home cause I moved
[02:02] <_ShoGo_> maltron: welll, but do u know what can i do to solve the error when launching glxinfo?
[02:02] <maltron> _ShoGo_: fglrx is yes, ati - not sure what that is
[02:02] <tk> what does BREAK install mean when you request a package to be installed?
[02:02] <DjDarkmanMS> but I have a working kubuntu installation
[02:02] <_ShoGo_> if I launch glxinfo in a text tty, it says; Error, unable to open displayu (null)
[02:03] <abattoir> !info linux-amd64-k8
[02:03] <ubotu> Package linux-amd64-k8 does not exist in any distro I know
[02:03] <Tm_T> hi abattoir
[02:03] <maltron> _ShoGo_: I suspect the reason you can't launch glxinfo is because opengl doesn't work for that card with that driver.  So you can't really get info on opengl stuff with it
[02:03] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: search fo linux-amd64-k8 in adept
[02:03] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: its a metapackage, it'd pull the latest kernel
[02:03] <maltron> _ShoGo_: you would have to install the proprietary drivers again
[02:03] <abattoir> Tm_T: Hi :)
[02:03] <_ShoGo_> maltron ok, thanks for then info mate :)
[02:03] <maltron> _ShoGo_: no worries - I hope I haven't led you up the garden path though!
[02:03] <DjDarkmanMS> abattoir one problem ,I currently don`t have internet home
[02:04] <Tm_T> abattoir: have you seen our art master, kwwii?
[02:04] <maltron> _ShoGo_: I'm no expert, but that's my best guess.  It's a slow night so I thought I'd have a go!
[02:04] <abattoir> Tm_T: i think yesterday...
[02:05] <abattoir> Tm_T: he should come on to #kubuntu-devel in some time, i guess
[02:05] <Tm_T> ok, thanks
[02:05] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: ok... wait a sec
[02:05] <DjDarkmanMS> and is there a command to reconfigure the network likw dpkg-reconfigure or something else?
[02:06] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: linux-image-<kernel version>-amd64-k8 ought to be it
[02:07] <maltron> _ShoGo_: do man radeon and you'll find this line:
[02:07] <maltron> _ShoGo_:
[02:07] <maltron>        R300        Radeon 9700PRO/9700/9500PRO/9500/9600TX, FireGL  X1/Z1  (2D
[02:07] <maltron>                    only)
[02:07] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: you might need linux-restricted-modules-<kernel version>-amd64-k8 too
[02:07] <DjDarkmanMS> abattoir how can I download it`s packagees to install them home?
[02:07] <maltron> _ShoGo_: sorry, that was meant to tell you that it only does 2d for those cards
[02:08] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: mmm, why do you need it?
[02:08] <DjDarkmanMS> I`m at a netcafe wich is running windows :(
[02:08] <DjDarkmanMS> and I need to take them home
[02:08] <maltron>  _ShoGo_: which is why you have to get the fglrx drivers to get 3d, unfortunately :-(
[02:08] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: ok, you can get it from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: but why do you need it over amd64-generic?
[02:09] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: there might be other dependencies too
[02:09] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: so installing it may/may not work
[02:09] <DjDarkmanMS> abattoir yes but how can I see the deps too?
[02:10] <abattoir> DjDarkmanMS: packages.ubuntu.com has it listed
[02:11] <DjDarkmanMS> is there a command to reconfigure the network?
[02:12] <DjDarkmanMS> I have problems with that too
[02:12] <DjDarkmanMS> we have a small home network and it doesn`t seem to work
[02:19] <whizz> i can't boot into the gui
[02:22] <Bocian> who's from poland?
[02:23] <ubuntu> hi...
[02:23] <Bocian> ahh,yeah :P
[02:23] <Bocian> i search peaple from poland ;/
[02:23] <ubuntu> I'm new bie on linux... a people to help me to configure xgl?
[02:24] <whizz> maybe there is #kubuntu-pl ...
[02:24] <Bocian> ehh, great thing :D
[02:25] <ubuntu> xgl on kubuntu are possible?
[02:26] <tk> can anyone explain the BREAK (install) notice in Adept when you request an install of some packages?
[02:32] <lupine_85> tk: usually it conflicts with some other package, the removal of which will break yet other packages
[02:33] <tk> ahh, any way to track that to see whats the culprit?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> tk: show details button tends to be effective
[02:36] <tk> I looked there, didnt see anything about conflicts
[02:43] <whizz> i couldn't start any program in the gui: 'kdeinit couldn't launch <program>'
[02:46] <oliver> i am trying to add a printer to cups but on http://localhost:631 it comes up with authentication but when i type in my usename or roots user name and passwd it does not come up
[02:48] <arejaytee> is thier a startup equivalent in kubuntu?
[02:49] <halfbloodprince> ??
[02:50] <ziza> my hostname isn't set anymore when i login. does anybody else have this problem? i think the update i made yesterday caused this :(
[02:50] <ziza>  /etc/hostname seems to be ok
[02:52] <DocTomoe> is there a way to change PDF Metadata in kubuntu? I am using imagemagick to convert scanned PNGs to PDF, and it would be nice if I could edit Metadata to find my documents again later...
[02:56] <Kr4t05> !vmware
[02:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:57] <Linux_Galore> DocTomoe: pdftk
[02:57] <Kr4t05> What?!
[02:58] <Kr4t05> VMWare costs money?!
[02:58] <angasule> I have a samsung cell phone and recently got a USB cable to plug it into the pc, when I plug it in, "drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.c: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver" is loaded, but I don't know what app to use to connect to it manage the address book, etc
[02:58] <Kr4t05> angasule: bitpim
[02:58] <angasule> Kr4t05: some versions do, yes
[02:58] <angasule> Kr4t05: thanks :)
[02:58] <Kr4t05> angasule: I don't think it's in the repos. I could be wrong, though.
[02:58] <angasule> Kr4t05: vmplayer is free, and also the workstation version, I believe
[03:00] <Zkyez__> workstation is NOT free
[03:00] <Zkyez__> vmware player is free
[03:00] <angasule> hmm, it's not :/ if I compile it in another kubuntu dapper system, can I copy it over to this one? (and then make install)
[03:00] <Zkyez__> :)
[03:00] <Zkyez__> same version?
[03:00] <Zkyez__> same packages installed?
[03:01] <angasule> the server, then?
[03:01] <shadowhywind> morning all
[03:01] <angasule> Zkyez__: yeap, I hope :)
[03:02] <shadowhywind> i have this werid audio problem, my audio plays from the speakers even though my headphones are pluged in (laptop)
[03:02] <angasule> I tried installing the friggin' USB cable on windows, but the instructions were highly compressed screenshots, or a chinese manual
[03:04] <shadowhywind> any ideas?
[03:05] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: I dont think your plugged into the headphone socket, I suspect it the suround output socket
[03:05] <shadowhywind> its a laptop, i have 3 ports, 1 mix and 2 headphones and i pluged something into all 3 and still nothing (and yes all 3 at once too)
[03:06] <shadowhywind> any other ideas linux_galore
[03:06] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: sounds strange, usually theres a switch built into the headset socket that disables sound the to the speakers
[03:07] <shadowhywind> thats what i thought too, hehe
[03:07] <Kr4t05> angasule: I'm looking at the VMWare website, and they offer VMWare Server for free. But, it's version 1.01.
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> the headset socket site just after the pre amp stage before the final amp to when you plug something in it just open circuits the final amp stage
[03:07] <Kr4t05> 1.0.1
[03:08] <Kr4t05> Oh, bah...
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: might be a dirty contact in the headphone socket
[03:08] <Kr4t05> I'll just carve out a slice of my harddisk and dual boot for eternity. ><
[03:08] <shadowhywind> works perfect in windows
[03:09] <shadowhywind> but the other werid thing is i get no sound out of the headphones ether.
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: aaah so its driver side
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: check kmix
[03:09] <angasule> Kr4t05: I don't really use vms, but what about qemu? is it usable?
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: theres a headphone section
[03:10] <shadowhywind> (in windows at the moment) but kmix only shows master, pcm, and capture
[03:10] <shadowhywind> *brb*
[03:10] <shadowhywind> i am in windows at the moment, going to switch over
[03:10] <Kr4t05> angasule: I'm not sure. I was only looking into VMWare because I want to use my new webcam.  I spent all last night compiling spca5xx, and I still didn't get it to work.
[03:11] <Kr4t05> angasule: I spent $30 on the darn thing, and I'm too proud to return it. ><
[03:12] <angasule> Kr4t05: oh, yeah, my webcam is resting forever inside a drawer, thanks to creative not supporting it
[03:13] <Linux_Galore> hold on let me power up my crappy laptop
[03:14] <Linux_Galore> the machine Im on has a sb audigy card with 101 options in kmix
[03:14] <Kr4t05> angasule: Bah....
[03:14] <angasule> Kr4t05: my feelings exactly
[03:15] <charlie5> is there a way to get kubuntu packages built for pentium4 ... and would they make much difference ?
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: there already in the repo look the the 686 package of the 2.6.15 kernel
[03:16] <Kr4t05> This really disheartens me to buy something only to find out about a long, tedious installation process, where the end result is variable. Or, even worse, to find out it isn't compatiable at all. And, I can't ask the people at Walmart, because, in Hick Valley, USA, I'm the only human who even uses Linux.
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[03:16] <halfbloodprince> heh
[03:16] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: is that just for the kernel ... how about all the other packages ?
[03:16] <halfbloodprince> not funny, but yeah
[03:16] <Linux_Galore> Kr4t05: google is your buddy, just punch in the make and model into www.google.com/linux
[03:17] <ziza> i would pull my hair if i hadn't shaved them yesterday :(
[03:17] <angasule> Kr4t05: I've been working on this friggin' usb cable for an hour, maybe two, and the monkeys here can't even advice me about windows
[03:17] <Kr4t05> Linux_Galore: Nice search, but I already used that.
[03:17] <halfbloodprince> i'm actually surprised to see what you guys are choosing to ditch your hardware rather than your OS.. for most people it's the other way around
[03:17] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: theres no real advantage with many packages with compiling for 686, in fact in some cases the extra stuff slows it down
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> Kr4t05: stick with a brand of go to a white box maker
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> or*
[03:18] <angasule> halfbloodprince: well, we ditch what works badly
[03:18] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: thanks, that's what i was after ... just wondering if i can get a bit of a performace boost somehow :)
[03:19] <angasule> halfbloodprince: windows will blue screen on every boot after about 2 days, on this pc, it just doesn't like it, I  got tired of reinstalling every two months, and my parents (it's their pc) like linux, it's shiny :)
[03:19] <Linux_Galore> Kr4t05: if you buy a cheap assed heap of crap wallmart machine, yes many bits wont have drivers and even under windows there a bit crappy because the drivers were a one of release for some cheap 50c hardware
[03:19] <halfbloodprince> angasule: :) cool.. good to know that people aren't scared to try linux
[03:19] <halfbloodprince> and to actually use it as a primary OS
[03:19] <Kr4t05> Linux_Galore: It's a Logitech QuickCam Express. It's supposed to work with Linux, according to the drastically out-date wiki pages.
[03:20] <charlie5> btw, anyone here from .au using bband, who can recommend a provider ?
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> Kr4t05: most logitech stuff do but there are a few models that are troublesome due to there chipset usage being one off
[03:20] <charlie5> ... or de-recommend one :)
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: you do realise there are over 140 countries each with a pile of there own broadband providers
[03:21] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: that's why i said from .au :)
[03:22] <angasule> Linux_Galore: most countries don't have broadband, though, like here, they call 256kbps broadband heh
[03:22] <Kr4t05> Linux_Galore: Exactly. The ProductID is 0x092f, which, from what I've seen on the SPCA5xx and other sites, it rather rare and troublesome. ><
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: Im on tpg, any adsl works fine the headache is the modem you choose not the service
[03:23] <Kr4t05> Later, folks.
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> Kr4t05: yep sounds like a one off cheap as hell made to a price wallmart job
[03:23] <halfbloodprince> is it necessary to set up a root user
[03:23] <Linux_Galore> halfbloodprince: nope
[03:23] <angasule> halfbloodprince: no
[03:23] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[03:23] <halfbloodprince> thanks
[03:24] <angasule> halfbloodprince: use sudo or kdesu :)
[03:24] <halfbloodprince> so if some script asks me for a root password, i can just enter my own password?
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> halfbloodprince: yep same as windows
[03:24] <halfbloodprince> awesome
[03:24] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: ah, the modem will be a problem, i guess, if it's anyhing like dialup modems ... winmodems suck big time :)
[03:24] <angasule> !sudo
[03:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> halfbloodprince: just use your main user password
[03:24] <halfbloodprince> windows is getting a bit dull for me
[03:24] <angasule> !kdesu
[03:24] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:25] <halfbloodprince> cool
[03:25] <halfbloodprince> thanks!
[03:25] <phreakys> hi
[03:25] <angasule> halfbloodprince: you might encounter some script that actually expects a root account, what you should do in that case, is use sudo to run the script
[03:25] <phreakys> does anyone know if akamaru works on kubuntu?
[03:25] <halfbloodprince> okay?
[03:26] <halfbloodprince> let's say i'm installing automatix, and it asks me for a root password
[03:26] <halfbloodprince> what should i do then
[03:26] <angasule> halfbloodprince: write your own
[03:26] <angasule> halfbloodprince: although I think automatix is un-recommended?
[03:26] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: what modem do you use ?
[03:27] <angasule> phreakys: what is akamaru? is it on the repos?
[03:27] <tk> ugh, if XGL uses compiz 0.0.2-4ubuntu why does that not exist anywhere...
[03:28] <phreakys> angasule, its a dock for xgl
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: I use a dsl router, less hassle that way because I only setup the router once and when I install windows/osx/linux I dont have to do a thing the routers is setup with dhcp so its all automated
[03:28] <halfbloodprince> angasule: no, i've heard it's actually not that bad now, it used to be, but not now
[03:28] <phreakys> like the osx dock, but looks cooler
[03:28] <angasule> !xgl
[03:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:28] <phreakys> http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/akamaru.git/
[03:28] <phreakys> ive got xgl/compiz allready running
[03:29] <phreakys> just wonder if it works with kde/dapper
[03:29] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: the one I have is a 4 port smc router but a netcom one is as just as good
[03:29] <whizz-> can i clone an ext3 fs, write a new ext3 fs and then restore the clone ? (my main ext3, the one with the kubuntu install, has errors that fsck doesn't seem to be able to fix)
[03:29] <angasule> I have no idea, phreakys, sorry
[03:29] <phreakys> ok, np ;)
[03:29] <angasule> hi again, Kr4t05
[03:30] <Kr4t05> Due to my inane disire to annoy and aggravate those I know, I have to ask.
[03:30] <angasule> whizz-: ouch, are you sure it's not a hardware issue? you would probably end up backing up broken data?
[03:30] <Kr4t05> Would 4GB be enough for a thoroughly stipped-down install of WindowsXP?
[03:30] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: dont buy acheap single line modem for $40 go buy a 4 port dsl router, they cost like $69 and you never have to setup Linux ever again
[03:30] <angasule> Kr4t05: yeah
[03:31] <angasule> Kr4t05: let me give you the size of my current xp install
[03:31] <halfbloodprince> i so hate windows... especially now with all the WGA and SP2 crap
[03:31] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: ah, ok :) ... sounds good, but a bit beyond my skills maybe, atm ... i barely know dialup/modems ... netcomm is a good brand in general for linux modems ?
[03:32] <whizz-> other question then.. can i back up the list of packages currently installed ?
[03:32] <angasule> Kr4t05: 2.4G currently in use, and that includes office and some other junk
[03:32] <Kr4t05> angasule: good deal
[03:32] <tk> Kr4t05: without SP1/SP2 a basic XP install comes out right around 1Gig
[03:32] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: well, if they're that cheap, maybe i will give it a try, thanks
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Aww, man.
[03:32] <angasule> whizz-: yes, but I don't remember the command
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Why can't QTParted resize ext3?
[03:33] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: doesnt matter, if the modem has dhcp support on the lan side you dont care what brand it is, dhcp is a automated network thing that all lans use these days, just plug in your machine to the router, router sends a file to your machine thats tells it were everything is and thats it all automated
[03:33] <Kr4t05> !qtparted
[03:33] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: every OS out there supports dhcp for a lan connection
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> Linux_Galore: in the case of Ubuntu it connects to dhcp by default so you never set anything up
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> oops
[03:35] <angasule> Kr4t05: I just googled and found this, maybe it's useful, maybe it eats all your data: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/resizing-ext3-partitions-with-parted
[03:35] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: : in the case of Ubuntu it connects to dhcp by default so you never set anything up
[03:35] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: :) ... sounds like the way to go then
[03:35] <Kr4t05> angasule: you rock.
[03:35] <halfbloodprince> does anyone know if the foxmarks extension for firefox works in kubuntu?
[03:36] <angasule> Kr4t05: haha thanks :D
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: yeah getting a cheap modem and stuffing around with pppoe and the dns stuff is a pain, just get a cheap router with dhcp support and you never have to worry about connecting anything to the router again'
[03:37] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: so i need to buy a adsl modem with dhcp support and also buy a 4 port dsl router ... the modem connects to the router and the router connects to my machine ... and kubu will detect it all via dhcp, which i don;t need to setup ... is that right ? ... :)
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: no you buy a all in one adsl router
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: they usually have 4 ports and one phone line jack
[03:38] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: ok, the router is built into the modem, sorry :)
[03:38] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: most firefox extensions work, but check in the extensions' page, it'd be stated there if it works in linux
[03:39] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: thanks
[03:39] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: or vice vera :)
[03:39] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: you can plug up to 4 machine into it and you only setup the router once for you ISP and thats it, lets say I buy a new machine throw ubuntu on it, because the router supports dhcp I dont have to setup anything in Linux the installer automatically connects to the router
[03:42] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: sounds brilliant ... i have an old machine with broken cd ... been trying to get an OS onto it via etherboot w/o much luck ... maybe i can isntall kubu onto it via dhcp :)
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> charlie5: just buy a cdrom or walk down the street on a junk week and you will see a pile of old machines with cdroms in them
[03:44] <shadowhywind> is there a log of what happens on startup?
[03:44] <tk> crap
[03:44] <tk> talk about a bad typo
[03:45] <tk> I just deleted /usr/bin because I hit space instead of /file
[03:45] <charlie5> Linux_Galore: well, the trouble is machine won't boot from cdrom, cannot access bios, and only has a kboard which all bootloaders do not recognise ... so it's kinda compicated :/
[03:48] <tk> well I guess that makes me up for a reinstall tommorow morning
[03:48] <halfbloodprince> When I burn the ISO, it's not automatically a live cd right? It's just a bootable install cd? I don't want it to be a live cd which gives me the option to install
[03:49] <tk> halfbloodprince: if you downloaded the Live CD its a live CD, but it gives you boot options if you dont want to use the live portion of it
[03:49] <KDEfanboy_> t
[03:50] <tk> ugh, guess I'm gonna reobot to windows for tonight, dont feel like reinstalling my fresh install because I made a stupid mistake
[03:50] <tk> unless there is an easy way to restore /usr/bin? :P
[03:51] <oliver> how do you execute a jar file in the command line
[03:51] <halfbloodprince> tk: I'm downloading kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[03:52] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: that's the 'livecd version'
[03:53] <riri> hi : is it here for edgy too ?
[03:53] <abattoir> riri: is what here for edgy?
[03:53] <abattoir> the livecd?
[03:53] <riri> kubuntu irc for edgy support
[03:53] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: aahhhh.. but i can just select the option to boot from it, right? and not use the live cd portion, like tk said?
[03:54] <riri> i am compiling kde4 on edgy and kdebase can't compile
[03:54] <abattoir> riri: aah, #ubuntu+1 is the channel :)
[03:54] <riri> ok thanks
[03:54] <angasule> riri: aren't there packages for kde4 on edgy anyway?
[03:54] <riri> yes
[03:54] <shadowhywind> anybody know of the log with information from bootup?
[03:54] <riri> but mine are better
[03:54] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: the way it works is, you choose Start/Install Kubuntu->get into the livecd->Click on Install in the desktop
[03:55] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[03:55] <riri> with dapper I compiled all kde4
[03:55] <halfbloodprince> is it a good idea to run the live cd? if the live cd doesn't detect my hardware, am i to assume that it definitely won't detect it on a full install?
[03:56] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: well, in most cases, you can 'make' it work
[03:56] <abattoir> even if the livecd doesnt detect/work with it out of the box
[03:56] <angasule> halfbloodprince: if it works on the livecd, it should work just fine after install, and after the install, a lot of extra stuff can be made to work, too
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> halfbloodprince: if you can open a browser and connect to the net the rest is just minor hacks
[03:57] <halfbloodprince> okay, cool.. coz i intend to install it anyway, even if the live cd doesn't detect all my hardware :p
[03:58] <halfbloodprince> i hope you fine people will be able to help me out in case that happens, but i have full faith in kubuntu
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> halfbloodprince: dont try installing 6.10 though stick to dapper
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> ie 6.06
[03:59] <halfbloodprince> Linux_Galore: I'm getting 6.06.1
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> I tried 6.10 on my laptop and it hangs, 6.06 works fine
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> 6.10 works on my workstation but half the apps freez up
[04:00] <halfbloodprince> ah..
[04:02] <Kr4t05> angasule: what was that link you pasted me before?
[04:03] <Kr4t05> Nevermind.
[04:03] <officer> where can i find mp3
[04:03] <officer> downloader for kubuntu
[04:03] <angasule> Kr4t05: umh, don't remember, I'm on another pc, I closed that session
[04:04] <officer> help
[04:04] <officer> kan use dual screen
[04:04] <fhmartensson> hi, can anyone help me with the setup of wine pls
[04:04] <officer> hello
[04:04] <officer> wine
[04:05] <officer> package
[04:05] <troy> hola folks
[04:05] <officer> kpeckage will help you
[04:05] <fhmartensson> thanks
[04:05] <troy> was wondering if Edgy is going to have a wider support for 32bit libs under amd64?
[04:06] <officer> somebody that can help me for my dual screen
[04:06] <officer> plz
[04:06] <fhmartensson> how
[04:06] <phreakys> hm
[04:06] <fhmartensson> new to linux
[04:06] <fhmartensson> used windows before
[04:06] <officer> have a ati radeon 9550 it works on windows xp but not on kubuntu
[04:07] <angasule> !ati
[04:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <fhmartensson> need help to install winehq
[04:07] <officer> thanks
[04:07] <fhmartensson> can some one help
[04:08] <Martijn81> !LSB > Martijn81
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LSB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <angasule> fhmartensson: there is a wine package in adept
[04:08] <officer> i have istall fglrx
[04:08] <fhmartensson> how do i find this, new to linux
[04:08] <cwojack> I am having trouble with adapt.  It won't show (Not installed ) applications  I ran "sudo aptitude update" no update The computer is on the net as it is this unit>
[04:08] <abattoir> !wine
[04:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:08] <abattoir> !info wine
[04:08] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[04:08] <Zkyez__> cwojack: try apt-get update;apt-get upgrade
[04:08] <officer> i have istall fglrx
[04:09] <lm> hey there. can anybody tell me how to add the button to minimize all windows to kicker in kde... just as it is in gnome?
[04:09] <abattoir> fhmartensson: ^^^^ follow that guide, and install that package... you'd need to enable the universe repository
[04:09] <luisgp82> Hi
[04:09] <abattoir> lm: you mean 'Show Desktop'?
[04:09] <lm> abattoir:  exactly
[04:09] <fhmartensson> how do i enable the universe repository
[04:09] <abattoir> lm: rt. click on the panel -> Add applet->Show Desktop
[04:09] <abattoir> !universe
[04:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:09] <abattoir> fhmartensson: ^^^^
[04:09] <luisgp82> i installed kubuntu, but i cant install Synaptic. Why?
[04:10] <Martijn81> lm: unlock the panel by right click-> and then see abattoir's reply
[04:10] <lm> abattoir:  ahh thanks :)
[04:10] <phreakys> anyone knows why kiba wont drop and drag?
[04:10] <abattoir> luisgp82: do you want synaptic instead of adept?
[04:11] <cwojack> No luck it says reading package lists but nothing happens.  No long updat is run.
[04:11] <abattoir> luisgp82: kubuntu has a program called adept, which is used to add/remove programs
[04:11] <abattoir> luisgp82: Kmenu->System->Adept
[04:12] <shadowhywind> i have one more question for the lady, my kubuntu will randomly freeze before the login screen displaying a black screen, i think it is freezeing at the saving vesa file any ideas?
[04:13] <luisgp82> synaptic is in grey color
[04:13] <fhmartensson> which panel do i right click
[04:14] <fhmartensson> is there any one who has got a step by step idiot proof manual
[04:14] <fhmartensson> sorry for all these thousands of questions
[04:14] <abattoir> fhmartensson: the rt. click thing wasnt for you
[04:14] <fhmartensson> ok
[04:15] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, you seems to be able to help me
[04:15] <abattoir> fhmartensson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:15] <abattoir> fhmartensson: i dont know anything simpler than that...,
[04:15] <lm> anybody know how to change the default file manager from konqueror to krusader?
[04:16] <romeo_> hello does anyone know when firefox 15.06 will be coming out for debian?
[04:16] <lm> ehh
[04:16] <lm> 15.....
[04:17] <halfbloodprince> can i just copy my existing ttf fonts from windows to the fonts directory in kubuntu, instead of installing the msttfcore package
[04:17] <frojnd> hello guys
[04:17] <frojnd> I have one prob
[04:17] <frojnd> beside many more ;)
[04:18] <romeo_>  hello does anyone know when firefox 15.06 will be coming out for debian?
[04:18] <frojnd> I formated SATA disk into ext3
[04:18] <angasule> romeo_: you might want to ask in debian? :)
[04:18] <romeo_> ok sorry in kubuntu
[04:18] <frojnd> I am asking how can I make that disk work...
[04:18] <frojnd> (partition)
[04:18] <angasule> frojnd: you want to read it from windows?
[04:18] <frojnd> no
[04:19] <frojnd> just from linux
[04:19] <frojnd> it was NTFS and I formated it
[04:19] <frojnd> in to ext3
[04:19] <frojnd> and now I must set the permissions and mount it
[04:19] <frojnd> I don't know exactly how to do this so
[04:20] <romeo_> hello does anyone know when firefox 15.06 will be coming out for kubuntu?
[04:20] <angasule> frojnd: go to System Settings-> System Administration -> Disk & Files
[04:20] <frojnd> k
[04:20] <halfbloodprince> angasule: got a minute?
[04:20] <angasule> romeo_: stop asking again and again
[04:21] <angasule> halfbloodprince: just ask, if I can't answer, somebody else will :)
[04:21] <romeo_> sorry so no one has the answer?
[04:21] <lm> ask in debian
[04:21] <halfbloodprince> angasule: can i just copy my existing ttf fonts from windows to the fonts directory in kubuntu, instead of installing the msttfcore package
[04:21] <halfbloodprince> msttcore*
[04:22] <angasule> halfbloodprince: hmm, yeah, you can copy ttf files, but I don't know if there is any side effects or anything
[04:22] <halfbloodprince> side effects?
[04:22] <frojnd> ok angasule I went to disk & files, and I tryed to enable disk, but it says that I must mount it first...
[04:22] <frojnd> how can I mount it
[04:23] <halfbloodprince> in the ubuntu manual, it says that to install fonts, i can install them manually by copying them into the usr/shared/fonts directory
[04:23] <angasule> halfbloodprince: I don't know how fonts work these days, with unicode and all that :) but it should work fine, I guess
[04:23] <halfbloodprince> does adept do something special with the msttcorefonts package apart from downloading/copying fonts into the respective directories?
[04:23] <halfbloodprince> okay, cool
[04:24] <angasule> frojnd: in konqueror, go to media:/
[04:24] <cwojack> Adapt and ap-get don't seem to know ware to get its info.  How do i fix this?
[04:24] <frojnd> k
[04:24] <Ayabara> what do I need to put in my /etc/fstab for my ipod to be mounted under /media/ipod?
[04:24] <angasule> frojnd: do you see the disk you want to use there?
[04:25] <frojnd> yes
[04:25] <frojnd> sdb1
[04:25] <abattoir> cwojack: huh? what do you mean?
[04:25] <frojnd> It's there
[04:25] <abattoir> Ayabara: have you already added an entry for it to be mounted as something else?
[04:26] <Ayabara> abattoir, no. it comes up as /media/sdd2 all by itself
[04:26] <dhq> i am having problems i cant start kdm
[04:26] <dhq> it says diplay problems
[04:27] <frojnd> angasule It's there, but when I clik on it, it says that I can't access it..
[04:27] <angasule> frojnd: you need root access to mount it, yes, that's fine
[04:27] <abattoir> Ayabara: are you sure you'd need it to be mounted on every boot?
[04:27] <halfbloodprince> ok guys..brb
[04:28] <frojnd> angasule frojnd: you need root access to mount it, yes, that's fine  root@kubuntu:/dev# mount /dev/sdb1 /home/q/sdb1
[04:28] <frojnd> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:28] <frojnd> :S
[04:28] <abattoir> !fstab > Ayabara
[04:28] <Ayabara> abattoir, hmm. good point. it's mounted as /dev/sdd2 I meant. I have a problem connecting to it in amarok
[04:28] <abattoir> Ayabara: that should have the info you'd need
[04:29] <angasule> frojnd: mount -t ext3 (and then the rest), but go back to Disk & files, and enter administrator mode, you could make it mount on boot from now on, if you want
[04:29] <abattoir> Ayabara: amarok? why dont you specify that device in amarok?
[04:29] <abattoir>  /dev/sdd2?
[04:30] <frojnd> root@kubuntu:/dev# mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /home/q/
[04:30] <frojnd> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[04:30] <frojnd> I don't get it
[04:30] <frojnd> when I go to disk & files it's there
[04:30] <Zkyez__> it seems i have a problem with akregator. i cannot increase the font size
[04:30] <Ayabara> abattoir, I asked the wrong Q.. the problem seems to be another one. amarok detects the ipod on /dev/sdd2, but when I press connect it says "no mounted iPod found"
[04:30] <frojnd> and it says that it's ext3
[04:30] <abattoir> Ayabara: from what i can see( i dont have an ipod, btw), amarok lets you choose the device...(/dev/sdd2)
[04:30] <angasule> frojnd: can you enable it?
[04:30] <frojnd> no..
[04:30] <frojnd> It says that I must mount it
[04:30] <frojnd> :)
[04:30] <angasule> frojnd: are you in administrator mode?
[04:30] <frojnd> yes
[04:31] <Ayabara> abattoir, that's right. I'll try the amarok forum for more help :-)
[04:31] <abattoir> or #amarok
[04:31] <abattoir> Ayabara: or i'll see if the wiki has some info
[04:32] <angasule> frojnd: select the partition and click on 'modify'
[04:32] <Ayabara> abattoir, that's what I meant, actually. I'm thinking one thing and writing another today...
[04:32] <frojnd> angasule: ok
[04:32] <giwen> fix my charst
[04:33] <giwen> :/
[04:33] <dhq> what does this mean "Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd                                                              /Gnome.pm line 54, <> line 1."
[04:33] <giwen> /charset iso-5589-1?
[04:34] <abattoir> dhq: where do you get that?
[04:34] <[Deathmaster] > anyone of you using kvirc 3.2.4 from a deb package ?
[04:34] <abattoir> dhq: synaptic?
[04:34] <dhq> abattoir: well in konsole
[04:35] <dhq> abattoir: i have somany broken packages
[04:35] <abattoir> dhq: doh... after doing what?
[04:35] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, tried to download the wine after i followed the instructions you send me(thanks by the way) but still no sign of this
[04:35] <dhq> abattoir: when ever i download any repos
[04:35] <abattoir> fhmartensson: if you followed those porperly, you'd see wine in the packages list
[04:35] <abattoir> fhmartensson: did you click on fetch updates after adding the entry?
[04:35] <frojnd> angasule: still there
[04:36] <abattoir> dhq: do 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:36] <fhmartensson> i did
[04:36] <fhmartensson> ok so you mean the the wine should be on its own
[04:36] <abattoir> fhmartensson: and did you enable universe for 'dapper'(the distribution) rather than 'dapper-backports' ?
[04:36] <angasule> frojnd: yes
[04:36] <abattoir> fhmartensson: no, once you finished that process, type wine in the search bar, you should see it
[04:36] <dhq> abattoir: i have been getting display errors
[04:36] <fhmartensson> i think so, will check again
[04:37] <tyler_d> my Gdebi package installer will not open??
[04:37] <cwojack> I am still having a problem with installing packages with adapt.  It isn't getting the updates.  Help
[04:38] <frojnd> when I click on modify settings are: mount point: /media/sdb1 ; enable at start up ; writable ; mount permission: one user at the time
[04:38] <frojnd> may enable disable
[04:38] <ziza> ha! something ate my hostname binary! it's an empty document.
[04:39] <ziza> but it has the same date as the binary of an older installation
[04:40] <Ayabara> I need some help mounting my ipod. I have an ipod icon on my desktop, but when I right click and press 'mount' I get an error symbol, without any explanation
[04:40] <ziza> i was looking for a reason why my hostname is set to (none). i think i found out now :)
[04:40] <Pensacola> my KDE is in english and I want it in dutch, what do I need to do?
[04:40] <angasule> frojnd: well, you want it to enable at start up (enable = mount, by the way)
[04:41] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, i followed the instructions just as it said  on the link you send me
[04:41] <tyler_d> how do you add/fix a repository when you get an error about no pubkey available?
[04:41] <angasule> frojnd: the other options depend on what you want to do with them, etc
[04:41] <phreakys> wohoo, kiba dock works :D
[04:41] <Ayabara> abattoir, I asked in #amarok, and they told me I had to mount the ipod. that didn't work, so now I'm back :-)
[04:42] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, do i need to restart the computer for this to take effect
[04:42] <Kr4t05> !grub
[04:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:42] <angasule> frojnd: 'writable' set to on is probably a good idea :) and 'only root may enable/disable' is just fine, if you'll keep it always mounted
[04:43] <frojnd> wow
[04:43] <frojnd> another porb
[04:43] <frojnd> when I enable settings
[04:44] <abattoir> Ayabara: i thought you had it mounted in /media/sdd2 ?
[04:44] <frojnd> mount /dev/sdb1 does not exists
[04:44] <abattoir> fhmartensson: nope, you dont, this is not windows
[04:44] <abattoir> fhmartensson: well, if you followed the instructions carefully, it should work... could you just go over it once again quickly?
[04:45] <fhmartensson> ok, thanks for all the help by the way
[04:45] <Ayabara> abattoir, my bad. it is in /dev/sdd2, and I have to mount it
[04:45] <angasule> frojnd: I don't know what's going on, really, I'm not much good at working from a distance :)
[04:46] <Ayabara> in /media/ipod or something like that
[04:46] <abattoir> Ayabara: ok,  you'd need to create a /media/ipod
[04:46] <abattoir> Ayabara: 'sudo mkdir /media/ipod'
[04:47] <Ayabara> abattoir, that dir seems to be there already
[04:47] <abattoir> Ayabara: then, adding an fstab entry might also be useful...
[04:47] <Pensacola> I can only add US english in languages, not dutch what do I need to do?
[04:47] <abattoir> Ayabara: btw, Kubuntu doesnt do it automatically for you? the mounting?
[04:48] <abattoir> Pensacola: languages... where?
[04:48] <Ayabara> abattoir, when I hover over the icon on the desktop, it says 'unmounted removable medium'
[04:48] <Pensacola> system settings - regional and accesability
[04:49] <abattoir> !info language-pack-kde-nl
[04:49] <ubotu> language-pack-kde-nl: KDE translation updates for language Dutch. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.06+20060725 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:49] <abattoir> Pensacola: ^^^^
[04:49] <Pensacola> ok thx
[04:49] <Pensacola> sorry for the noobish questions :s
[04:49] <abattoir> Ayabara: when you click it... it doesnt get mounted?
[04:49] <Ayabara> Pensacola, don't apologize, cause then I have to too ;-)
[04:50] <Pensacola> :)
[04:50] <Ayabara> abattoir, no. I get an error. a box with the red circle and white cross, and a button for ok. no error message at all
[04:50] <abattoir> no error messages? that's weird
[04:50] <Ayabara> abattoir, do I need to set some permissions on /dev/sdd2 to be able to do it?
[04:51] <abattoir> Ayabara: try 'sudo mount /dev/sdd2 /media/ipod'
[04:51] <phreakys> is there a way to use ctrl-alt-del for getting runtime processes?
[04:53] <oslo> phreakys> ctrl-ESC i tink
[04:54] <Ayabara> abattoir, 1. there was an old symlink in the way "mount: mount point /media/ipod is a symbolic link to nowhere". when I removed that, did 'sudo mkdir ipod' and tried to mount without sudo, I got the same empty error message. when I mounted with sudo it worked :-)
[04:54] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, have followed the link as it says but no wine installed
[04:54] <Ayabara> abattoir, the question now is if I will be able to write to it :-)
[04:54] <abattoir> Ayabara: nice ;)
[04:55] <abattoir> Ayabara: now go back to #amarok :P
[04:55] <Ayabara> abattoir, already did. now it says (mounted at /media/ipod) :-)
[04:55] <abattoir> fhmartensson: did you search for wine in the searchbox in adept?
[04:55] <abattoir> Ayabara: so it works w/ amarok too?
[04:55] <tyler_d> anyone help me with the Gdebi package installer not opening??
[04:56] <Ayabara> abattoir, almost, since I mounted with sudo, my user can't write to the iPod.
[04:56] <Ayabara> abattoir,  failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted at /media/ipod: Permission denied
[04:57] <abattoir> Ayabara: hmm, you'd probably need to change permissions...
[04:57] <Ayabara> abattoir, so I can mount it without sudo, or so I can write to it when it is mounted with sudo?
[04:58] <abattoir> Ayabara: i generally, open konqueror as root, rt. click on that partition, and change permissions.. but most if not all people would contest that... :P
[04:58] <gan|y|med> hi
[04:59] <abattoir> Ayabara: i dont know if it'll screw up your ipod fs... let me find out wait
[04:59] <Ayabara> abattoir, ok, really appreciate the help :-)
[04:59] <phreakys> tnx oslo. it works :-)
[04:59] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, i did but no matches
[05:00] <oslo> phreakys> you re welcome
[05:02] <omar> Hi guys How are you dong
[05:02] <omar> dong
[05:02] <omar> i am a beginner user in kubuntu
[05:02] <omar> but let me tell you , it is really good, better than Win.......s
[05:02] <halfbloodprince> what's better than win...s
[05:03] <abattoir> Ayabara: i guess the way is to add an entry in /etc/fstab and include the 'user' option, so that it can be mounted by regular users
[05:03] <omar> However there are some things I really wanna do , but I still didn0t get
[05:03] <omar> better than windows
[05:03] <phreakys> right now in kde, when i press del in konqueror, it deletes content without warning
[05:03] <phreakys> could this be changed?
[05:03] <Ayabara> abattoir, what happens if I don't have the iPod connected at startup?
[05:03] <abattoir> phreakys: i thought it gives a warning...
[05:04] <omar> for example, I really would like to change icons in each desktop
[05:04] <abattoir> Ayabara: if you have the 'noauto' option, it isnt mounted at startup
[05:04] <phreakys> no, it deletes without warning :/
[05:04] <abattoir> phreakys: plain delete or shift+delete?
[05:04] <Ayabara> abattoir, of course... thanks
[05:04] <Electrolyte> Deleting files gives me a warning.
[05:05] <phreakys> just delete
[05:05] <phreakys> it moves everything to the trashcan, but i would like to have some kind of warning
[05:10] <halfbloodprince> why has the room gone silent all of a sudden?
[05:10] <cwojack> I am still having a problem with adapt.  It isn't getting updates.  any ideas?
[05:10] <abattoir> Ayabara: '/dev/sdd2 /media/ipod vfat sync,user,noauto 0 0' looks good to me...
[05:10] <Philip5> anyone in here who have built their own recent 64bit kernel and made it a deb package?
[05:11] <abattoir> cwojack: try 'sudo apt-get update' does that work?
[05:11] <Ayabara> abattoir, "/dev/sdc2 /media/iPod vfat nosuid,noauto,nodev,rw,umask=077,gid=1000,uid=1000,user,defaults,noatime,iocharset=utf8 0 0" seemed to work, though I have no idea what it does... anything dangerous in this line?
[05:12] <cwojack> No  It dosen't seem to know ware to go.  it dosn't download anything.
[05:12] <abattoir> Ayabara: where did you pick that from ? :P
[05:12] <abattoir> Ayabara: seems good though... but is your's /dev/sdc2 ?
[05:12] <Ayabara> abattoir, http://www.ubuntux.org/node/147
[05:12] <Ayabara> changed it to sdd2
[05:13] <abattoir> cwojack: what do you mean? could you pastebin the output?
[05:13] <abattoir> !pastebin
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[05:13] <abattoir> Ayabara: as long as it works, its all good :)
[05:14] <Ayabara> abattoir, indeed. thanks a lot for _all_ of your help
[05:14] <abattoir> you're welcome :)
[05:15] <halfbloodprince> Ayabara: can u copy stuff to your ipod now?
[05:15] <cwojack> it says "reading package list ... Done"
[05:15] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, did you find any solution to my problem with wine
[05:15] <dvaquer> hello
[05:15] <dvaquer> to all
[05:15] <fhmartensson> hello
[05:15] <cwojack> This is instead of downloading all the repository data.
[05:16] <dvaquer> \join
[05:16] <abattoir> fhmartensson: what problem did you have... I asked you if you searched in adept for it
[05:16] <ketsugi> What's the difference between PyQt and PyKDE?
[05:16] <fhmartensson> i did and i replied back to you
[05:16] <fhmartensson> no luck im afraid
[05:17] <abattoir> ketsugi: there are certain qt classes which are optimised a bit more for KDE applications...
[05:17] <fhmartensson> it seems that it is not installed of some reason
[05:17] <abattoir> ketsugi: pykde provides bindings for those
[05:17] <Ayabara> halfbloodprince, yep, it works like a charm
[05:17] <abattoir> fhmartensson: it will not be installed by default, but is it 'listed' ?
[05:17] <ketsugi> so if I wanted to write a KDE app, I'd choose PyKDE, but if I wanted to write an environment-agnostic Qt-based app, I'd choose PyQt?
[05:18] <abattoir> ketsugi: if you need to take adv. of those 'special' kde classes, pykde, else pyqt.. :)
[05:18] <fhmartensson> so if i search for wine in adept and it cant find it then what?
[05:19] <abattoir> ketsugi: however you'd need to see if it's supported in other 'environments'... depending on what you mean by that
[05:19] <ketsugi> like, I can run Qt-based apps under Gnome, or Windows, etc
[05:19] <abattoir> fhmartensson: then 1) you either havent added universe 2) or you have enabled it in the wrong place 3) or you havent fetched updates
[05:20] <abattoir> ketsugi: running under gnome should work fine if you have the necessary pyqt 'libs' installed... i dont thin there is a pyqt for windows... so not sure about that
[05:20] <ketsugi> There has to be, because I've got an sqlite browser app that's qt-based and which runs under Windows XP
[05:20] <abattoir> ketsugi: btw, pykde apps will work fine in gnome too
[05:20] <abattoir> just like normal kde apps do
[05:20] <ketsugi> hmm ok
[05:20] <ketsugi> I'll just dabble with pykde and see how it goes then
[05:20] <ketsugi> thanks
[05:21] <abattoir> ketsugi: aah, that's Qt, not PyQt :)
[05:21] <ketsugi> ...oh yeah
[05:21] <ketsugi> <-- stupid
[05:21] <abattoir> ketsugi: Qt is C++, but PyQt provides bindings so that a python developer can make use of it
[05:21] <cwojack> No luck yet. any ideas?
[05:22] <abattoir> cwojack: iirc, i asked you to pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:23] <cwojack> I am soyyr . How do i do that?
[05:24] <abattoir> cwojack: ok, run that command in a terminal... copy all the stuff that comes out... and put it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ... click submit... it'd give you a link give that back here
[05:26] <Hetauma> hi does any1 know if I can install kubuntu on a core duo proccessor yet ?
[05:28] <matus> Hetauma: yes, you can
[05:29] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, there were only 1 place that i could enable it on, all the othe places it did not allow me
[05:29] <Snake> Does apt-get log what it installs?
[05:30] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, i got this cd from a magazine, and it said full version of kubuntu 6.06
[05:31] <cwojack> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23072
[05:31] <phreakys> anyone knows how to set double click for konqueror?
[05:31] <Martijn81> phreakys: kpersonalizer probably
[05:31] <daniloc> what you mean for double click?
[05:31] <daniloc> to, open it with double click or something else ?
[05:33] <phreakys> ah, got it
[05:33] <phreakys> tnx
[05:34] <Snake> Does apt-get log what it installs?
[05:34] <longbean> where's Autostart live in kde 3.5.4? I'm reading a guide saying that there should be something in System Settings->KDE Components, but i got nothing
[05:34] <abattoir> fhmartensson: hmm, what do i say... following those instructions *must* work... i cant think of any exceptions other than what i've already told you
[05:35] <abattoir> fhmartensson: nope, there is no Home basic, Basic Home, Home professional etc. w/ Kubuntu... there is only *one* version :P
[05:35] <fhmartensson> ok thanks
[05:36] <abattoir> longbean: you mean the Autostart folder?
[05:38] <longbean> abattoir: sort of. http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000081 says something about being able to get an app to start on startup via System Settings
[05:38] <longbean> i could probably do it manually i guess, soon as i figure out how...
[05:41] <pierre__> hi
[05:41] <pierre__> I have a question
[05:42] <pierre__> why do i not delete a folder with bash command 'rm' ?
[05:42] <pierre__> nobody ?
[05:42] <p0w4h> pierre: you could try rm -fr (force)
[05:42] <fhmartensson> abbatoir, do i change it in the canonical commercial repositeries as well
[05:42] <pierre__> ok thanks
[05:43] <longbean> pierre: by default rm doesn't work on folders
[05:43] <longbean> pierre: 'rmdir' will delete an empty directory (or folder if you prefer calling them that)
[05:43] <pierre__> well
[05:44] <pierre__> with -fr i can
[05:44] <pierre__> thanks
[05:44] <pierre__> folder is not the same of directory ?
[05:45] <longbean> different names for the same thing
[05:45] <pierre__> (sorry but i'm french, but in kubuntu-fr, nobody is)
[05:45] <pierre__> ok
[05:45] <ernst_> ey
[05:45] <abattoir> fhmartensson: nope, only in http://??.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper
[05:45] <abattoir> longbean: i cant seem to find it either... guess the article meant ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:46] <fhmartensson> thts what i did then
[05:46] <abattoir> longbean: you can create a file, put the command in, and it'll get executed
[05:46] <longbean> abattoir: i guess so. i figured it out.
[05:46] <abattoir> fhmartensson: ok, do 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:46] <abattoir> fhmartensson: copy and pastebin that file
[05:46] <longbean> now to test
[05:46] <abattoir> !pastebin
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[05:47] <ernst_> I have a question
[05:47] <ernst_> I want to uninstall koffice 1.6 alpha, but I can't find the directory
[05:47] <ernst_> does anyone know the default directory of koffice 1.6alpha1??
[05:48] <abattoir> ernst_: how did you install it?
[05:48] <ernst_> manually so with ./configure --> make --> make install
[05:49] <abattoir> ernst_: then go into that folder, 'sudo make uninstall'
[05:49] <rudiz> my screensaver is inactive? how to fix it?
[05:49] <ernst_> which folder??
[05:49] <fildo> where u ./configured it
[05:49] <pierre__> in /usr/share/applications/kde ?
[05:49] <brandon_> why does msn not connect?
[05:50] <arudio> @ ernst_ where your source code is
[05:50] <fildo> brandon_: client ur using
[05:50] <brandon_> it says Unable to lookup messenger.hotmail.com
[05:50] <brandon_> Kopete
[05:50] <abattoir> brandon_: try manually pinging messenger.hotmail.com
[05:51] <fildo> yerp
[05:51] <abattoir> 'morning Hawkwind :)
[05:51] <fildo> find out if network issue first
[05:51] <brandon_> and how do i do that?
[05:51] <fildo> in bash
[05:51] <abattoir> brandon_: 'ping messenger.hotmail.com'
[05:51] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Morning.  How's things today
[05:51] <pierre__> ernst : locate koffice
[05:51] <pierre__> if you don't find
[05:51] <abattoir> Hawkwind: a bit slow initially... but picking up ;)
[05:52] <brandon_> what do i mean by ping?
[05:52] <ernst_> yeah someone else said me to do this... but it gave a whole list of results
[05:52] <arudio> ernst_: if you didnt configure sth. else, your koffice is in /usr/local ususally...
[05:52] <abattoir> ernst_: do what?
[05:52] <brandon_> I'm just learning how to do networking, I'm a little slow
[05:52] <rudiz> ihe screensaver does not work? how to fix this bug?
[05:53] <abattoir> rudiz: your KDE version is?
[05:53] <ernst_> usr/local and than what...
[05:53] <rudiz> the latest one
[05:53] <longbean> ok that was weird. compiz loaded on startup, but i got no window directions. running compiz-start from the terminal fixed it
[05:54] <arudio> i think /usr/local/koffice or sth. similar?
[05:54] <longbean> think i need some direction on actual compiz use and configuration here. anyone willing to point me in the right direction?
[05:54] <rudiz> abattoir kde 345
[05:55] <ernst_> there is no such folder
[05:55] <rudiz> abattoir, 3.5.4
[05:55] <ernst_> I guess I deleted the folder with the source code
[05:55] <abattoir> rudiz: could you make sure you are fully up to date?
[05:55] <abattoir> rudiz: if you have dapper updates enabled...
[05:56] <rudiz> yep
[05:56] <ernst_> is there anyother way to uninstall software without the source code folder
[05:56] <arudio> sorry - usually source programs install themselves under /usr/local if you dont tell them to install anywhere else...
[05:56] <rudiz> i install xscreensaver also
[05:56] <abattoir> rudiz: ok, what is the problem exactly... it doesnt launch at all?
[05:57] <brandon_> umm... could it be server problems if it says could not find server at messanger.hotmail.com?
[05:57] <Hawkwind> brandon_: It's messenger not messanger
[05:57] <rudiz> if i am way from pc...no screensaver  action
[05:57] <brandon_> >.<
[05:57] <brandon_> i dunno how to spell
[05:57] <Hawkwind> brandon_: We noticed :P  Just kidding
[05:57] <brandon_> lol
[05:58] <ernst_> ok there are 9 folders in /usr/local/
[05:58] <brandon_> I remember you....
[05:58] <brandon_> I'm the retad that couldn't figure out samba, but eventually did
[05:58] <rudiz> abattoir if iam away frompc noc screensaver action
[05:58] <ernst_> bin etc games include man lib sbin share and svr
[05:58] <brandon_> retard*
[05:58] <fildo> ah ur just a newbie
[05:58] <ernst_> whichone is the one with koffice
[05:59] <arudio> ernst_: seems as if koffice installs anywhere else ;-))
[05:59] <fildo> we all go thru it
[05:59] <fildo> brandon_: onpen konsole > type ping <url>
[05:59] <brandon_> can't find the server at messenger.hotmail.com.
[05:59] <arudio> ernst_: did you try locate koffice?
[05:59] <brandon_> ok
[06:00] <Hawkwind> brandon_: It seems to be down as I get 100% packet loss
[06:00] <ernst_> ok I'll try locate koffice
[06:00] <brandon_> poop
[06:00] <ernst_> there are three posibilities
[06:01] <rudiz> abattoir, its on Automaticaly start screensaver
[06:01] <ernst_> either /usr/share/apps/koffice or /usr/lib/ or /var/lib/dpkg/
[06:01] <brandon_> yea, I pinged it and no response
[06:02] <ernst_> these directories are most common if i type locate koffice
[06:02] <fhmartensson> abatoir, thanks but how do i do this and were
[06:02] <brandon_> ok well then
[06:03] <arudio> ernst_: please try which koffice to see where the koffice binary is
[06:03] <brandon_> about java, I tried to install it, but it still says that I don't have the plugin installed
[06:03] <Slayer4blind> aka brandon_
[06:04] <fhmartensson> abatoir, can you please bare in mind that i am a very new user to linux
[06:04] <ernst_> you mean typing "which koffice" in the konsole
[06:04] <ernst_> that doesn't do anything
[06:04] <longbean> hm. can't download compiz-kde. says it depends on package compiz 0.0.2-4, but compiz is at 0.0.13.48
[06:04] <arudio> ernst_: yes, type in which koffice in the konsole...
[06:05] <ernst_> I just get the cursor (or whatever it is) on the next line
[06:05] <ernst_> it doesn't say anything
[06:05] <Slayer4blind> How do I install java for Firefox?
[06:05] <arudio> then either koffice is not in your PATH or it isnt installed at all :o))
[06:05] <Slayer4blind> I need the JRE plugin
[06:06] <arudio> which and whereis look for binaries in your PATH-dirs...
[06:06] <ernst_> well, it is installed so how can i change the path
[06:07] <Slayer4blind> I guess no help
[06:07] <fhmartensson> hi is there anyone else that can help me with my problem on how to install the winehq so i can use the windows application, especially the wireless as though it is only compatible with windows
[06:07] <arudio> if you know where koffice is installed you can expand your PATH by adding directories to your existing path ...e.g. in /etc/profile or in your own ~/.profile....
[06:07] <cwojack> have you looked at the ap-get data?
[06:08] <arudio> ernst_: PATH=$PATH:/new/directory1:/new/directory2
[06:08] <arudio> ernst_: export $PATH
[06:08] <fhmartensson> have managed the reposuitories
[06:10] <theine> ernst_: did you install koffice via apt-get/synaptic/adept?
[06:10] <ernst_> so if i do "cd /" and then which koffice it must find the binary because it's the broadest path???
[06:10] <theine> ernst_: you won't need "cd /"
[06:10] <halfbloodprince> check this out: http://www.wired.com/news/wireservice/0,71756-0.html?tw=rss.index
[06:11] <ernst_> no i installed koffice 1.6 manually
[06:11] <arudio> ernst_: if you type "echo $PATH" the dirs in your PATH-variable will be shown...
[06:12] <theine> where did you install it on your system?
[06:12] <arudio> ernst_: chdir to / wont help you here
[06:12] <ernst_> I don't know if it's of any use but this is the result of echo $PATH
[06:12] <ernst_> this /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[06:12] <arudio> theine: it looks as if ernst_ installed it by ./configuring it to defaults.
[06:12] <theine> damn
[06:13] <arudio> but there is no koffice-dir under /usr/local
[06:13] <fhmartensson> halfbloodprince, can you help me out with my problem of not able to run windows applications
[06:13] <theine> is there anything under /usr/local?
[06:13] <arudio> ...known to me as "mother" of all self-compiled programs
[06:14] <arudio> ernst_: sorry, must leave now - good luck searching :-))
[06:14] <halfbloodprince> which apps do you want to run?
[06:14] <ernst_> thanks for your help
[06:14] <fhmartensson> the wireless
[06:14] <theine> ernst_: i'd do "sudo updatedb && locate kword"
[06:14] <jamesarthur> how do you install "wine"?
[06:14] <fhmartensson> and winehq
[06:15] <me> Anyone know if Kubuntu comes with some sort of password security utility to protect a specific folder in the admin profile?  Like, if I forget to lock my profile, is there a way to set a desktop folder to promt for a password everytime it's opened?
[06:15] <halfbloodprince> i don't know much abut wine man
[06:15] <ernst_> ok, i did sudo updatedb && locate kword
[06:15] <halfbloodprince> br
[06:15] <halfbloodprince> brb
[06:15] <theine> ernst_: any result?
[06:16] <ernst_> not yet
[06:16] <theine> hmm
[06:16] <ernst_> lol he's kinda slow
[06:16] <fhmartensson> any idea then of how i can be able to use the wireless for linux even though it is for windows
[06:16] <theine> oh,
[06:16] <jujimufu> I need help, because I am stuck with some dependancy problems. I tried to instsall compiz, but something went wrong, and now I want to get rid of it, but I can't.  This is the error I get:
[06:16] <jujimufu> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[06:16] <jujimufu> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse
[06:16] <jujimufu> oops, sorry, wrong copy
[06:16] <jujimufu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:16] <jujimufu>   compiz-aiglx-gnome: Depends: compiz-aiglx (= 0.0.13-0gandalfn~dapper1) but it is not installable
[06:16] <jujimufu>   gset-compiz: Depends: compiz but it is not going to be installed or
[06:16] <jujimufu>                         compiz-vanilla but it is not going to be installed or
[06:16] <jujimufu>                         compiz-aiglx (>= 0.0.8) but it is not installable
[06:16] <theine> right, that's updatedb that's taking so long
[06:16] <fhmartensson> as it is now i cant install the drivers
[06:17] <longbean> fhmartensson: i think you need a thing called ndiswrapper
[06:17] <theine> ernst_: that's normal
[06:17] <theine> ernst_: but locate itself is very fast
[06:17] <Hawkwind> !paste
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[06:17] <ernst_> wow what a list of results
[06:17] <Hawkwind> jujimufu: ^^^^^^^^^
[06:17] <theine> ernst_: ok, then do "locate kword | grep bin"
[06:17] <jujimufu> Hawkwind: sorry :\ didn't think it would take that much space
[06:17] <fhmartensson> thanks but how do i get hold of this from and how do i install it
[06:18] <Hawkwind> jujimufu: For XGL/Compiz stuff, have you tried asking in #Ubuntu-XGL as those guys there know their stuff
[06:18] <Hawkwind> jujimufu: No worries, was just for future references :)
[06:18] <jujimufu> Hawkwind: yeah, but the problem isn't with compiz, it's with the package
[06:18] <ernst_> it says usr/bin/kword
[06:18] <jujimufu> Hawkwind: as in, I can't download any more packages because of this problem
[06:19] <wessel> Hello, I have a problem, I dont know how I did it, but my toolbar in Konqueror is gone(the one containing the "File", "Edit", "Help" etc menus, how can I get this back?:S
[06:19] <longbean> fhmartensson: try the ubuntuforums i guess. don't know much about wireless routers, the name "ndiswrapper" is all i can give you
[06:19] <theine> ok, then just type "/usr/bin/kword" and hit enter
[06:19] <fhmartensson> thanks longbean i will try there, if you can come up with anything else pls let me know
[06:20] <ernst_> it starts kword if i do that
[06:20] <Hawkwind> jujimufu: I had that problem too at one time as I had compiz/xgl sources in my list even though I didn't use the stuff.  I don't remember the fix unfortunately :(
[06:22] <ernst_> sorry theine have to go
[06:22] <ernst_> thanks for your help anyway
[06:24] <wessel> Hello, I have a problem, I dont know how I did it, but my toolbar in Konqueror is gone(the one containing the "File", "Edit", "Help" etc menus, how can I get this back?:S
[06:24] <longbean> compiz is nice, but all the wobbling is making me queasy. how do i stop it?
[06:24] <koke> it seems I can't install latest edgy snapshot in powerpc
[06:24] <longbean> wessel: try ctrl-M
[06:24] <koke> installer fails to guess the newworld partition
[06:25] <wessel> thanks, it has returned :D
[06:25] <alex_> has anyone tried dual booting dapper with vista rc1?
[06:25] <longbean> wessel: now don't press it again :P
[06:25] <wessel> yeah sorry :(
[06:25] <longbean> wessel: unless you want to of course :)
[06:26] <wessel> lol, i think ill keep it this way
[06:26] <wessel> i always forget those shortkeys anyway :S
[06:32] <stealg> hi guys i have a problem i was install ati drivers and the 3d acel its good but have less video memory of my hardware  i have a mobility radeon x1300 with 256 in video but in dapper give me 64 mb
[06:39] <begleysm> hi guys... what is the command to list your connected devices and show the bus identifiers?
[06:39] <jujimufu> lspci
[06:39] <begleysm> thanks
[06:41] <rouge8> attempting to add a printer in either kcontrol or systemsettings locks up >.>
[06:43] <xenalise> gah... anyone else here use kvirc?
[06:43] <xenalise> I got some scripts from the kvirc site, but theres no "addon manager" in kubuntu's kvirc :|
[06:46] <jess> how di i get up stairs
[06:46] <gustavo> hi i just instaled kubuntu and im having some problems. i dont know hwy but i cant access my other drives
[06:46] <abattoir> jess: there is kgetupstairs...
[06:46] <abattoir> :P
[06:46] <jess> lol
[06:47] <abattoir> gustavo: try  media:/ in konqueror... see if it lists all your partitions
[06:47] <abattoir> gustavo: if its there, just click on them and they'll be mounted... have to go now.
[06:48] <kristina> how can i install a network between 2 kubuntu pc's?? how can i make a share folder like in windows?
[06:49] <gustavo> it does list all my drives and partitions but i cant access them
[06:49] <gustavo> got this mensage
[06:49] <gustavo> http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1958/snapshot1zt1.png
[06:54] <fdoving> gustavo: is your user in the 'plugdev' group? (is it the user created during install?)
[06:54] <gustavo> yes
[06:55] <fdoving> ok, the devices are not removable?
[06:55] <fdoving> i figure hdc1 is not removable.
[06:55] <gustavo> dunno what does that means, first time i use linux :P
[06:56] <gustavo> below where says "type" of hdd says "unmounted hard drive"
[06:56] <fdoving> gustavo: ok, open konsole (you can find it in kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[06:56] <fdoving> gustavo: kmenu is the K in the lower left corner.
[06:56] <fdoving> gustavo: tell me when you've got the konsole window up.
[06:57] <gustavo> done
[06:58] <fhmartensson> hi anyone if i do not have the synaptic installed can you tell me where to find it?
[06:59] <fdoving> gustavo: ok, then type this: sudo echo '/dev/hdc1' >> /etc/pmount.allow
[06:59] <fdoving> gustavo: and then press enter. you'll be asked to enter your password.
[06:59] <fdoving> gustavo: oh, hang on.. that won't work.
[06:59] <fdoving> gustavo: go for 'sudo -i' first.
[06:59] <fdoving> gustavo: then: 'echo '/dev/hdc1' >> /etc/pmount.allow
[07:00] <fdoving> gustavo: 'sudo -i' will ask you for your password. this is to gain administrator rights.
[07:01] <fdoving> gustavo: then the echo command will add a line containing /dev/hdc1 on the end of the /etc/pmount.allow file.
[07:01] <fdoving> gustavo: that will allow the mounting system to mount that device.
[07:01] <fdoving> even though it's not removable.
[07:04] <gustavo> nothing happed
[07:04] <fdoving> gustavo: try to run 'cat /etc/pmount.allow'
[07:05] <fdoving> gustavo: is /dev/hdc1 listed at the end?
[07:05] <gustavo> cat /etc/pmount.allow
[07:05] <gustavo> ops
[07:05] <fdoving> in the konsole window :)
[07:05] <gustavo> ye ye :P
[07:06] <gustavo> nope, nothing happed
[07:06] <fdoving> nothing?
[07:06] <fdoving> no output?
[07:06] <gustavo> nope
[07:06] <gustavo> nothing happed when i typed it
[07:06] <fdoving> what is the output of 'id'
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..  Learning about apt-cacher :)
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> nifty tool if you got a lan of ubuntu machines.
[07:07] <fdoving> Dr_Willis: actually, squid with some customisation can be atleast as good (and you can use it for other thing too)
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> reading in the ubuntu-hacks book. :P
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> for my 2 pc lan. its working good.
[07:08] <fdoving> :)
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> or at least it seems to be working good.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> I still cant figure out why one pc can install some apps.. that the other dont want to.. some sort of apt-issues I think
[07:08] <fdoving> gimme error messages :)
[07:09] <fdoving> gustavo: what did the 'id' command return?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> trying tio install 'cream' on both machiens.. it installed on the laptop.  but on the older desktop
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> vim-gnome: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[07:10] <gustavo> oh im back
[07:10] <gustavo> whats that command ::(
[07:10] <fdoving> Dr_Willis: 'apt-cache madison libpango1.0-0'
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> madison ? where did that come from?
[07:12] <fdoving> it's a nice feature of apt-cache :)
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> libpango1.0-0 | 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 | http://amd64 dapper/main Packages  - is one of the several lines.
[07:12] <fdoving> i think the problem is that you've got some unofficial packages somewhere..
[07:12] <fdoving> laying around.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> im using the identical sources.list on both machines..
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> I proberly do on this older machine
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> so i just copied the source.list over from the 'new' installe
[07:12] <fdoving> that's your problem.
[07:13] <fdoving> so you need to force the new(older) ubuntu packages.
[07:14] <fdoving> Dr_Willis: what you want is to tell apt-get what version of libpango you want. like this: 'apt-get install libpango1.0-0=1.12.2-0ubuntu3'
[07:14] <BluesKaj> !tvtime
[07:14] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 627 kB, installed size 1744 kB
[07:14] <fdoving> Dr_Willis: the clue is to install the version the other packages depend on, as easy as that :)
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> which i cant seem to find.. :P but i am learning my apt-fu skills.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Not sure how they got confused.. the only extra repos ive added are the wine, and skype ones.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> I think
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> aptitude install cream gives a Lot of interesting info
[07:15] <fdoving> i'm no hardcore aptitude user.. can't help you much there. :)
[07:16] <highneko> How can I check the free space or used space of a partition?
[07:16] <fdoving> highneko: mounted partition?
[07:16] <highneko> yes
[07:17] <highneko> I would like to do this from theterminal
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> just seems apititude gives me a bit more info about whats broken.
[07:17] <gustavo> is there any remote desktop option or something like that, i dont have any idea what im doing :(
[07:17] <fdoving> highneko: 'df'
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> right now its saying i got about 200 packages that are broken. :P
[07:17] <highneko> Ok, thanks
[07:17] <fdoving> highneko: 'df -h' for human readable, MB GB etc.
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> I think ive cleaned out some repos from my sources.list that i shouldent of. :)
[07:18] <fdoving> gustavo: we don't do remote desktop support, and you shouldn't trust us to fix your computer, if that's what you mean.
[07:18] <fdoving> gustavo: didn't the 'id' command return anything?
[07:19] <gustavo> nope
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[07:19] <fdoving> gustavo: are you sure? that sounds very very unlikely.
[07:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:20] <highneko> fdoving, thanks alot
[07:20] <fdoving> highneko: you're welcome :)
[07:20] <mighty-d> hi, does anyone knows what login-password should i use in the cups web administration
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> CUps is semi-disabled in the web interface.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> let me get ya the url with the info.
[07:21] <fdoving> gustavo: you can try a new command, this command will start a editor, editing /etc/pmount.allow you should add a new line at the bottom containing '/dev/hdc1' the command is : 'sudo nano /etc/pmount.allow'
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2064
[07:21] <fdoving> mighty-d: this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> mentions the fix's and tweaks to get the cups web interface working
[07:22] <mighty-d> ok, thanks, i'll check those out
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> and is a bit of a rant about the ubuntu guys breaking cups web interface. :P
[07:22] <gustavo> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> so its a good read. Lol
[07:23] <firesuite_> anyone know how i can update to xorg 6.8 ?
[07:23] <fdoving> gustavo: nice, that's good, now what does 'cat /etc/pmount.allow' say?
[07:23] <BluesKaj> well i have tvtime installed and I'm receiving decent video but no sound ...searched the internet for a solution but it all has tod ow ith mythtv setups ...i don't need mythtv , but i do need sound !
[07:23] <gustavo> # /etc/pmount.allow
[07:23] <gustavo> # pmount will allow users to additionally mount all devices that are
[07:23] <gustavo> # listed here.
[07:24] <fdoving> firesuite_: what version of kubuntu do you run?
[07:24] <fdoving> gustavo: that's all?
[07:24] <gustavo> yep
[07:24] <firesuite_> i thought i had the latest, dloaded and installed like 3 days ago
[07:24] <fdoving> gustavo: ok,  run 'echo "/dev/hdc1" >> /etc/pmount.allow'
[07:25] <fdoving> firesuite_: what version? hoary,breezy,dapper?
[07:25] <fdoving> firesuite_: 5.04, 5.10, 6.06 LTS ?
[07:25] <firesuite_> how can i tell. sry for noob questions..
[07:25] <Tulpe_> Hello, ive a wlan problem
[07:26] <Tulpe_> can anybody help me?
[07:26] <firesuite_> 6.06 dapper :) found it
[07:26] <gustavo> nope i dont get any mensage back
[07:27] <fdoving> gustavo: you're not supposed to. try to run the 'cat /etc/pmount.allow' again, does it have a /dev/hdc1 at the end?
[07:27] <BluesKaj> Tulpe_, just ask yer question, if anyone can help, you will get an answer
[07:27] <fdoving> firesuite_: then you have xorg 7.0 already.
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> silly source-o-matic page.. i save the shown sources.list.. and it saves the web page.. :P
[07:27] <interloper> hello all, how can i test and see if i have the nvidia drivers installed?
[07:28] <firesuite_> ok well i was messing with the themes and settings and after a reboot it came back and said that the composite manager crashed twice within a minute and is disabled for this session
[07:28] <firesuite_> it then said composite extension not foudn - You must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.
[07:28] <fdoving> interloper: you'll see the NVIDIA logo when starting X, if you haven't disabled the splash.
[07:29] <fdoving> firesuite_: i don't know anything about xgl, you can try #ubuntu-xgl for XGL related questions. Might have better luck there.
[07:29] <interloper> fdoving no i sure don't
[07:30] <firesuite_> thanks fdoving i'll try that
[07:30] <interloper> fdoving i used synaptics to install it.
[07:30] <gustavo> fdoving = http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6660/snapshot1jp5.pngv
[07:30] <gustavo> http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6660/snapshot1jp5.png
[07:30] <abattoir> firesuite_: you already have xorg >6.8
[07:31] <abattoir> firesuite_: make sure you have Composite enabled in xorg.conf
[07:31] <firesuite_> ok i'll take a look in xorg
[07:31] <abattoir> firesuite_: for the transparencies/shadows to work, you'd need that section enabled
[07:31] <fdoving> !nvidia > interloper
[07:31] <abattoir> firesuite_: just follow the instructions in that KDE warning dialog
[07:32] <abattoir> firesuite_: but be careful when modifying your xorg.conf
[07:32] <firesuite_> so when it says modify my xconfig it means xorg.conf ??
[07:32] <interloper> fdoving thank you i'm looking through it right now.
[07:32] <abattoir> firesuite_: yes, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <Ayabara> I need a tool for renaming my pictures using exif data. any tips?
[07:34] <fdoving> gustavo: like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wniU9a50.nln.html
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Its possible theres some cpan modules out for that.
[07:34] <fdoving> gustavo: can you see the two commands?
[07:34] <firesuite_> i see no transparencies/shadows in there
[07:34] <abattoir> firesuite_: no, you'd need to *add* it there
[07:35] <abattoir> firesuite_: copy the info the Kde warning dialog says...
[07:35] <abattoir> firesuite_: something like "
[07:35] <abattoir> Section "Extensions"
[07:35] <abattoir>     Option "Composite" "true"
[07:35] <abattoir> EndSection
[07:35] <abattoir> firesuite_: and paste it at the end of xorg.conf
[07:35] <abattoir> firesuite_: but before that please backup your existing xorg.conf
[07:35] <firesuite_> hehe yea i'll back it up ;)
[07:36] <gustavo> oh it finally says /dev/hdc1
[07:36] <abattoir> firesuite_: after you've added it to xorg.conf, restart X... and you should see all the translucency/shadows stuff :)
[07:37] <fdoving> gustavo: nice, now try to doubleclick it in the browser again.
[07:37] <firesuite_> in case i dont do you think it will still let me boot to kde ?
[07:37] <abattoir> firesuite_: well if that happens, restore you xorg.conf from the backup
[07:37] <highneko> On my kicker I see stuff on all desktops. How can I change this?
[07:38] <abattoir> and all should be fine
[07:38] <abattoir> highneko: you mean you dont want to see the 'pager' ?
[07:38] <abattoir> highneko: rt. click on the applet->Remove applet
[07:38] <highneko> pager? The windows I dont' wanan see.
[07:39] <firesuite_> ok its done, im gonna restart, if im not back on here in a few ive killed it. LOL thanks abattoir youve been a great help
[07:39] <highneko> the programs and stuff.
[07:39] <surgy> hi
[07:39] <abattoir> firesuite_: if you've done it properly, it should work :)
[07:39] <firesuite_> if im not back in 5 send s search party.. im out
[07:39] <abattoir> highneko: does it say 1 2 3 4 on it?
[07:39] <abattoir> firesuite_: wait
[07:39] <surgy> ok i just got my cds in the mail :)
[07:40] <surgy> so i want to install kubuntu without destroying my windows install
[07:40] <highneko> Oh, I konw what pager you meant now. No I got that how I want. I meant the windows when minimized, they're on all desktops.
[07:40] <surgy> i have a single 80 gb hdd and i want to give kubuntu 15 gb of it
[07:40] <surgy> how do i do that without destroying windows?
[07:40] <gustavo> # /etc/pmount.allow
[07:40] <gustavo> # pmount will allow users to additionally mount all devices that are
[07:40] <gustavo> # listed here.
[07:40] <gustavo> /dev/hdc1
[07:40] <highneko> does windows take up the whole drive?
[07:41] <abattoir> highneko: you mean you want a window to be present only in 1 desktop, instead of all?
[07:41] <highneko> yea
[07:41] <highneko> It should be in the kontrol panel thing.
[07:41] <surgy> highneko: using about 10 gb of it now, but yes the ntfs partition is the whole drive
[07:41] <abattoir> highneko: ok, click on the top left corner(on the application's icon)->To Desktop->wherever you want
[07:42] <surgy> also how hard is it to make a radeon 9250 work under kubuntu?
[07:42] <fdoving> gustavo: no dice?
[07:42] <highneko> surgy: If you have no more room, you would probably have to resize your ntfs. I would use norton patrition magic.
[07:42] <clams> i need some awesome/addicting games for kubuntu. any suggestions?
[07:43] <clams> !games
[07:43] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:43] <fdoving> clams: addictive? frozen-bubble
[07:43] <firesuite_> hey abattoir it worked, thanks a lot man :)
[07:43] <clams> fdoving: im apt'ing it right now
[07:43] <highneko> abattoir: I konw how to move windows. I want an option to make all windows, when they open to be only on one desktop, not all of them.
[07:44] <abattoir> firesuite_: cool :), now enjoy all the awesome transparency goodness ;)
[07:44] <highneko> If I change to desktop two, or three, all my windows are there.
[07:44] <surgy> highneko: i dont have access to nortan, and resizing my ntfs is abou 90% likely to destroy windows right?
[07:44] <firesuite_> who needs vista, pft!!
[07:44] <sui> hui, i've ruined my installation :>
[07:44] <gustavo> thats all i got
[07:44] <abattoir> highneko: ugh, that's what i said
[07:45] <highneko> surgy: Anyways, you should probably backup, on another drive.
[07:45] <abattoir> highneko: click on the icon on the windeco(to the left of the title)->To Desktop->All
[07:45] <sui> does kubuntu write a boot.log? what config file do I have to edit for this?
[07:45] <Blaat> hi, When I start amarok i get a message that says that xine is unable to initialize audio drivers, but audio works fine with other programs, amarok is set to use alsa, what am i doing wrong?
[07:45] <abattoir> highneko: now, no matter which desktop you go to, that app will always be there
[07:45] <surgy> ok
[07:45] <highneko> abattoir: Yes, but I want the opposite.
[07:46] <sui> i clicked al little bit in control center and removed some services, and now i'm not able to log in
[07:46] <sui> X
[07:46] <surgy> ok so what is the best partition type for kubuntu?
[07:46] <surgy> and does it use grub? if so then i should install windows first right?
[07:47] <fdoving> sui: in console,run 'sudo update-rc.d xorg-common defaults;sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults' i think that shold do it.
[07:47] <abattoir> highneko: normally, an application is present only in one window, the one where you opened it... so even if you are in another desktop, if you click on it in the taskbar, the desktop where you opened it is loaded
[07:48] <abattoir> highneko: sorry if i dont seem to understand what you mean... could you be a bit more clear?
[07:48] <surgy> i mean what is the name of the type of partition used my kubuntu? becuase i have partition magic.
[07:48] <abattoir> *application is present only in one desktop(rather than window)
[07:49] <highneko> abattoir: I think what I want isn't possable with kubuntu.
[07:49] <sui> fdoving: /etc/init.d/xorg-common: file does not exist
[07:49] <fdoving> sui: what version of kubuntu?
[07:49] <abattoir> highneko: could you please clearly explain what you want?
[07:49] <highneko> I do'nt want it to be visable on the kicker when I change desktops. Only visable on kicker on one desktop.
[07:49] <sui> fdoving: 6.06
[07:49] <fdoving> sui: are you sure? did you uninstall something?
[07:49] <highneko> It's possable with suse.
[07:50] <abattoir> highneko: aah that... rt. click on the taskbar->Configure taskbar->uncheck show windows from all desktop
[07:50] <gustavo> finally works on all drives
[07:50] <fdoving> gustavo: great :)
[07:50] <gustavo> ty very much fdoving
[07:50] <abattoir> highneko: suse(if you mean kde under it) and kubuntu both use KDE, so technically, you can do almost the same things under them
[07:50] <fdoving> gustavo: you're welcome :)
[07:50] <sui> fdoving: no, I tried to get mpd to work. therefore I found a section in kcontrol for starting services on bootup- that's been all
[07:51] <abattoir> ugh, i should rephrase that
[07:51] <surgy> oh well i guess ill do it by ear
[07:51] <highneko> Ok, there it is.
[07:51] <highneko> abattoir: Thanks alot.
[07:51] <Breadmachine> okay all, quick question and its a biggie, i havent been using linnux lately, and ive forgottten my root password, is there any way i can recover or change it?
[07:51] <surgy> see you guys in about 7 hours
[07:51] <abattoir> highneko: you're welcome :)
[07:51] <abattoir> Breadmachine: you mean your normal user password?
[07:51] <fdoving> Breadmachine: boot into recovery mode, and run 'passwd' to change it.
[07:51] <highneko> I've found that option 100 times on other distributions. Strange. x_x
[07:52] <sui> fdoving: I stopped kbluetooth and some others I thought I never need them- perhaps there was one service which I need
[07:52] <Breadmachine> abattoir: im talkin my root password i need to run adept and all my other system crap
[07:52] <fdoving> sui: how far do you get? when does it stop? do you get console login?
[07:52] <sui> fdoving: on startup i get one failed service, but it's to fast to read
[07:52] <abattoir> Breadmachine: that's just *your* password...
[07:52] <sui> fdoving: oh, kdm ist starting, I just can't login
[07:53] <abattoir> Breadmachine: in (k)ubuntu, there is no root a/c by default
[07:53] <abattoir> Breadmachine: the normal user can get admin privs. by sudo
[07:53] <fdoving> Breadmachine: that's your user password. you can change it the same way, with 'passwd username'
[07:53] <BluesKaj> abattoir,  are you running a tvtuner card ?
[07:53] <abattoir> Breadmachine: by entering their own password
[07:53] <abattoir> BluesKaj: no
[07:53] <BluesKaj> or anyone for that matter
[07:53] <fdoving> sui: kdm is starting, you just can't login?
[07:53] <sui> fdoving: I type my password and hit enter, and then I return to the login screen
[07:53] <fdoving> sui: ah, can you login from console?
[07:53] <sui> fdoving: yes, I am :)
[07:54] <Breadmachine> abattoir: so i just run recovery mode and type "passwrd bread"?
[07:54] <fdoving> sui: if you login from console, and run 'tail -n 10 ~/.xsession-err*' what does it say?
[07:54] <Breadmachine> oops passwd bread
[07:54] <abattoir> Breadmachine: you dont remember your own password?
[07:55] <sui> fdoving: mompl, I need gpm
[07:55] <Breadmachine> abattoir: nope, im just that magically forgetful
[07:56] <abattoir> Breadmachine: yes, that should work, i guess... unless if it asks for your current password :P
[07:56] <Breadmachine> well, crap on toast
[07:56] <Breadmachine> brb
[07:56] <abattoir> Breadmachine: btw, you disappeared after i asked you to try something... have always been wondering....
[07:56] <abattoir> Breadmachine: if i broke your system :P
[07:57] <gustavo> where i can download xlibs ?
[07:57] <fdoving> gustavo: you probably have it.
[07:57] <fdoving> gustavo: what do you need it for?
[07:57] <gustavo> trying to install something but says package is not installed
[07:57] <gustavo> xlibs
[07:58] <gustavo> cedega ask for it
[07:58] <fdoving> gustavo: search http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:58] <sui> fdoving: /etc/X11/Xsession: line 81: /dev/null: Permission denied -- Xsession: unable to create X session log/error file; aborting. -- /etc/X11/Xsession: line 18: /dev/null: Permission denied
[07:58] <fdoving> sui: ah.
[07:59] <fdoving> sui: 'ls -lah /dev/null' ?
[07:59] <sui> fdoving: oh sure, I remembe. i clicked on "start udev on system boot"
[08:00] <sui> fdoving: I just need to remove it from the default runlevel
[08:00] <fdoving> sui: you want udev
[08:01] <sui> fdoving: crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 2006-08-06 02:14 /dev/null
[08:01] <fdoving> sui: that's wrong.
[08:01] <fdoving> sui: you want udev, but it should not be in the runlevels, only in rcS
[08:02] <sui> fdoving: how can I fix this
[08:03] <gustavo> ty  u very much again fdoving
[08:03] <smoke> HI All
[08:03] <jujimufu> him smoke :D
[08:03] <aes52> what internet apps do you guys use normally in kubuntu?
[08:04] <aes52> firefox?
[08:04] <smoke> Linux Rulllllzzzz
[08:04] <smoke> =)))
[08:05] <sui> can I simply remove the file S50udev in /etc/rcS.d/ ?
[08:05] <sui> no, not rcS.d, but rc2.d
[08:05] <jujimufu> aes52: firefox for browsing, kopete for messaging and konversation for IRC
[08:05] <sui> aes52: konsole and konqueror ;)
[08:06] <sui> konsole for centericq and irssi
[08:06] <firesuite_> guys so am i right in thinking there is no multiverse in kubunutu adept ??
[08:06] <firesuite_> i can only see universe
[08:06] <fdoving> sui: 'update-rc.d -f udev remove' and 'update-rc.d udev start 10 S .'
[08:07] <abattoir> firesuite_: of course not....
[08:08] <abattoir> firesuite_: or rather, of course there is
[08:08] <fdoving> sui: sorry for the delay.
[08:08] <abattoir> !multiverse
[08:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:08] <Raul12> installing Package management  offline help
[08:08] <Raul12> pls
[08:08] <abattoir> firesuite_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:08] <fdoving> Raul12: what is you problem/situation?
[08:08] <abattoir> firesuite_: you'd need to add it 'next' to universe
[08:08] <Raul12> i just installed kbuntu
[08:09] <Raul12> n gcc n all other packages were missin
[08:09] <firesuite_> thanks, i shouldve found that myself. i'll stop asking noob questions :)
[08:09] <Raul12> so how i install them offline
[08:10] <halfbloodprince> any one here who's installed the libfreetype6 package?
[08:10] <Raul12> any help will be well come
[08:10] <fdoving> Raul12: you don't have internet access on your kubuntu computer?
[08:10] <Raul12> no
[08:11] <firesuite_> i wonder why multiveres isnt in adept by default
[08:11] <Raul12> i kinda upgraded ubuntu in to kbuntu -core
[08:11] <llxcamxll> i had to add multiverse
[08:11] <fdoving> Raul12: you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and search for build-essential, then you'll get a list of depends you need to download and copy to your kubuntu machine. There are links and all, so i think that is the easiest way.
[08:12] <Raul12> and doesnt have adept(package manager
[08:12] <sui> fdoving: ty, thats it
[08:12] <fdoving> sui: you're welcome :)
[08:13] <sui> and now to the next problem: how can I get mpd to work :)
[08:14] <halfbloodprince> no one with libfreetype6?
[08:14] <thompa> is it possible to shrink the existing linux partition in use
[08:14] <fdoving> sui: what is your problem? it works like a charm here, i however, do not run it as a service. i run it as a user.
[08:16] <sui> I installed mpd, ncmpc gmpc. I added a user mpd (uid=107(mpd) gid=29(audio) Gruppen=29(audio)) and created an mpd.conf. for the .mpdstate and .mpddb i chowned the user to mpd:audio
[08:16] <fdoving> thompa: i think you can only grow online filesystems.
[08:16] <fdoving> thompa: don't take my word on that, but once when i investigated it a while back, you could only grow.
[08:16] <sui> fdoving: i like it to work as service, butr i can't connect to mpd
[08:17] <sui> error [15] : problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused
[08:18] <sui> root@Shmoo:~# /etc/init.d/mpd start >> Starting Music Player Daemon: mpd.
[08:18] <sui> no error message in konsole
[08:18] <thompa> fdoving: ok.
[08:19] <thompa> fdoving: im going to move the data from windows drive, and then reformat it to ext3 for storage
[08:19] <sui> but mpd is nozt starting
[08:19] <thompa> that way I can have grub on the sata (ubuntu) drive
[08:20] <fdoving> sui: you know it's not running?
[08:21] <fdoving> sui: 'netstat -lpnAinet' nothing listening on port 6000 ?
[08:21] <Raul12> any way can i save these build-essential through automated process in my hard drive
[08:21] <fdoving> err. 6600 ?
[08:21] <sui> fdoving: ps axf |grep mpd gives no output, just the grep
[08:21] <Raul12> from internet
[08:21] <Raul12> plz
[08:21] <fdoving> sui: ah.. ok, did you try to start it manually as the mpd user?
[08:21] <Raul12> any 1
[08:22] <Raul12>  any way can i save these build-essential through automated process in my hard drive from internet
[08:22] <Raul12> plz any1
[08:22] <Raul12> help
[08:22] <fdoving> Raul12: that's what apt-get is for, if you don't have a kubuntu/ubuntu system connected to the internet you can't easily do that in a automated way, as far as i'm concerned.
[08:23] <stephan> hello - test
[08:23] <fdoving> sui: do you have a /etc/mpd.conf ?
[08:23] <sui> fdoving: i tried to start as normal user (sui), but i'm not allowed to set the user/gid to mpd (cannot setgid of user mpd: Operation not permitted). after this I tried to start as root with /etc/init.d/mpd start
[08:23] <Raul12> but does it will save the packages to my hard drive n if they did where they will store
[08:23] <fdoving> sui: what if you try as user 'mpd' ?
[08:24] <fdoving> sui: 'sudo su mpd' or something..
[08:24] <fdoving> Raul12: yes,apt-get will do that.
[08:24] <fdoving> Raul12: the packages will be saved to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:24] <Raul12> where it will store on hard drive
[08:24] <Raul12> k
[08:25] <sui> fdoving: mpd needs a login-shell then?
[08:25] <fdoving> sui: hang on, i'll configure mpd as a service too.
[08:28] <sui> fdoving: got it working
[08:28] <sui> I started mpd as user mpd.
[08:29] <sui> fdoving: thats my mpd.conf (the neccessary part) >> http://nopaste.php-q.net/238749
[08:30] <sui> fdoving: oh, I forgot to paste "user "mpd"" to nopaste
[08:30] <_stepz> does anybody else have problems logging out/shutting down kubuntu edgy
[08:30] <unksi> I do
[08:31] <unksi> logging out is only possible by killing xorg and shutting down is only possible by pressing power button for 10 seconds/taking out the power supplies
[08:31] <_stepz> any idea whats the problem or how to fix/debug it
[08:31] <Raul12> how to automate the installing process after the upgrade of build essential package
[08:32] <Raul12> offline
[08:32] <Kr4t05> Bah
[08:32] <_stepz> well i could shutdown doing sudo shutdown now
[08:32] <Kr4t05> I've commited a fallacy.
[08:32] <Raul12> how to automate the installing process after the upgrade of build essential package offline
[08:32] <unksi> There is a bug report about the latter one, no idea about the former one
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> Hi..
[08:32] <Raul12> how to automate the installing process after the upgrade of build essential package offline
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> Why is wifi so uneasy on linux ?
[08:33] <|lostbyte|> dhclient does'nt connect.. it.
[08:33] <|lostbyte|> Is there a better tool, than dhclient.
[08:33] <Raul12> how to automate the installing process after the upgrade of build essential package offline
[08:33] <_stepz> |lostbyte|: probably because the drivers suck
[08:33] <Raul12> how to automate the installing process after the upgrade of build essential package offline
[08:33] <Raul12> plz help
[08:33] <Kr4t05> |lostbyte|, because hardware vendors don't want to open up their drivers to linux devels. ><
[08:33] <|lostbyte|> _stepz, If i configure it manually it works, perfectly.
[08:34] <|lostbyte|> Kr4t05, yeah.. :)
[08:34] <Raul12> how to automate the installing process after the upgrade of build essential package offline
[08:34] <Kr4t05> OK, I have to reboot in true Windows fashion. ><
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> Kr4t05, could you paste me the command to connect to any free wireless service if available... ?
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> on any channel ..
[08:35] <fdoving> Raul12: don't repeat your question every 10 seconds. it will only get you kicked for annoying everyone. it's not polite and disrespectfull to everyone else in the channel. Thanks for understanding.
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> at any rate and any mode.
[08:36] <firesuite_> anyone tell me whats the best web browser to use in kubuntu, my firefox keeps dying
[08:36] <Hawkwind> firesuite_: Not really a 'best'.  Try opera, mozilla, galeon
[08:36] <_stepz> unksi: any idea on bug # or keywords, I don't seem to be able to find it
[08:36] <Hawkwind> firesuite_: What keeps crashing it ?
[08:36] <firesuite_> yahoo.com
[08:37] <firesuite_> everytime i got to yahoo.com it quits
[08:37] <seth> well
[08:37] <seth> Yahoo doesn't support Konqueror
[08:37] <_stepz> firesuite_: konqueror seems to be good for me
[08:37] <seth> or Opera
[08:37] <unksi> _stepz: sorry but I cant find it myself either atm, I am sure that I saw one today tho..
[08:37] <firesuite_> im gonna re install it first
[08:37] <sui> fdoving: I will retry at home to start mpd as service. universitys closing >_<
[08:38] <fdoving> sui: i think it's related to this: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Common_Errors#Error_Trouble_creating_directory_.2Froot.2F.mcop
[08:38] <fdoving> sui: try to add mpd to your users group too.
[08:38] <fdoving> sui: if your username is sui: 'adduser mpd sui'
[08:38] <Bocian> what's the adress of polish kubuntu users? ;]  thx for help if any :D
[08:39] <Bocian> or polish chanell?
[08:39] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:39] <fdoving> !pl
[08:39] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:39] <Bocian> ohh thx :D
[08:39] <sui> fdoving: ok, have it. bbl :)
[08:39] <Bocian> my firs time on kubuntu irc :D
[08:40] <pierre__> hey
[08:41] <pierre__> I've a question
[08:41] <pierre__> I've dapper
[08:41] <pierre__> (kubuntu)
[08:41] <fdoving> sui: ah, try to add 'ao_driver "oss"' or alsa09
[08:41] <fdoving> sui: to the mpd.conf
[08:41] <pierre__> and i've also OOo
[08:41] <fdoving> sui: that did it for me.
[08:42] <pierre__> But i read the "Excel" of OOo is Calc
[08:42] <pierre__> And mine is Spreadsheet
[08:42] <pierre__> Is it normal ?
[08:43] <pierre__> (OOo was installed in the same time of the installation)
[08:43] <Raul12> apt-get Package build-essential   these command wont work
[08:43] <pierre__> (so i've not installed it)
[08:43] <ninHer_> hi all
[08:43] <fdoving> Raul12: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:43] <Raul12> k
[08:44] <coreymon77> how do i get my souind working
[08:44] <coreymon77> sblive speakers
[08:45] <fdoving> !sound
[08:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:45] <pierre__> nobody for me ? :'(
[08:45] <Raul12> what the size of build esseintial package ???
[08:46] <seth> !info build-essential
[08:46] <fdoving> pierre__: spreadsheet = calc, yes.
[08:46] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:46] <coreymon77> wait a sec
[08:46] <pierre__> ok thanks fdoving
[08:46] <coreymon77> when you say the volumje control
[08:46] <coreymon77> do you mean kmix
[08:47] <fdoving> Raul12: build-essential is a meta-package, basically a package that says 'if you install me, i'll install all my dependencies on your system', so it's not big itself, you'll have to count the dependencies sizes too.
[08:48] <helena_> well, next item to solve before I can pass this laptop to my GF, knetworkmanager isn't able to configure my wifi. it stops at Activation stage: Configuring device.
[08:49] <_stepz> configuring by hand using iwconfig and dhclient works like a charm
[08:53] <coreymon77> that link didnt help
[08:53] <coreymon77> its for ubuntu not kubuntu
[08:53] <coreymon77> gnome is different from kde
[08:55] <fdoving> coreymon77: you can do everything on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems in kubuntu too.
[08:56] <Raul12> HOW I GONNA INSTALL OFFLINE  THE PACKAGE STORED IN /var/cache/apt/archives/partial  AUTOMATED WAY
[08:56] <Raul12> HOW I GONNA INSTALL OFFLINE  THE PACKAGE STORED IN /var/cache/apt/archives/partial  AUTOMATED WAY
[08:58] <admin__> hi
[08:59] <Raul12> how can i install packages offline in automated way
[08:59] <admin__> #KSA
[08:59] <Raul12> pls can any 1 help
[09:00] <admin__> Hi
[09:00] <fdoving> Raul12: "shouting" won't get you higher on the priority list. we try to keep this channel in a odered and nice state.. where people are polite to each other. thanks for understanding.
[09:00] <admin__> Please how to change to Dalnet server ?
[09:00] <fdoving> admin__: /server irc.dal.net
[09:00] <admin__> thanks :)
[09:00] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[09:01] <Kr4t05> Bah
[09:01] <Raul12> i am not tryin to shout
[09:01] <fdoving> Raul12: did you copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/ to the computer without internet connection?
[09:01] <Raul12> i just want some help thats all
[09:01] <Raul12> yea
[09:01] <Raul12> i did
[09:01] <Kr4t05>  I need a Win32 IM client with video chat support and multiple protocols.
[09:02] <fdoving> Raul12: then just open a konsole, and use 'cd' to go the directory you keep the copied files. and run 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' in that directory.
[09:02] <Kr4t05> Stupid Trillian doesn't do Video unless you pay for Pro.
[09:02] <fdoving> .. wow.. that was bad sentence building..
[09:02] <Raul12> thanks
[09:03] <fdoving> Kr4t05: i think win32 IM client is waaay offtopic for this channel. consider #kubuntu-offtopic or ##windows thanks.
[09:05] <ke> Kr4t05, aMSN (both for linux and windows). And consider #windows yes...
[09:07] <Kr4t05> ke, I'm talking about multi-protocol, like gaim.
[09:10] <admin__> Pleae any one can help how to change the encoding to windows-1256 ?
[09:11] <coreymon77> right at the beggining there is something that doesnt make sense
[09:11] <coreymon77> right at the begining of the ubuntu sound herlp thing
[09:11] <Raul12> from where can i find codecs for multimedia
[09:11] <coreymon77> #
[09:11] <coreymon77> In alsamixer, check that sound is unmuted and that the volume is turned up
[09:11] <coreymon77>     *
[09:11] <coreymon77>       I found it hard to find these controls: its not the "sound" in preferences; click on panel; add to panel; volume controls; speaker icon appears on panel; left click on icon; preferences; played around here and it worked
[09:11] <coreymon77>     *
[09:11] <coreymon77>       Unmute everything. I had to unmute "Master Surround" even though I only have two speakers, for example.
[09:12] <RogueJediX> Er, need some help. When typing "sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" it reports the device being busy. So how can I find out which bugger is using the thing?
[09:12] <coreymon77> there is no such this as volume control in any of the add panel menus
[09:12] <Kr4t05> !paste > coreymon77
[09:12] <Hawkwind> !codecs > Raul12
[09:12] <coreymon77> sorry about that
[09:12] <coreymon77> i didint know
[09:12] <Kr4t05> coreymon77, K Menu -> Multimedia -> KMix
[09:12] <Moo_Moo> http://wlserver1-he.gindis.com/modules.php?name=WLAccount&file=visitor&op=game&userid=MzU4Ng== Gindis game the best game ever , if anyone get into, in down of page have flags choice flags on language u want play
[09:13] <clams> !games
[09:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:13] <coreymon77> oaky then
[09:13] <coreymon77> there is no such thing as preferences/cahange audio device in the file menu
[09:13] <Raul12> where can i find codec pack for multimedia packages like asala mp3 avi mepg
[09:14] <coreymon77> there is no preferences when you left click on the speaker icon
[09:14] <Hawkwind> Raul12: Read the info the bot sent you in pm
[09:15] <coreymon77> so then what
[09:15] <coreymon77> there is no preferences
[09:16] <RogueJediX> I don't get it. The sound was working before. Now, after the reboot, it doesn't.
[09:17] <coreymon77> what do i do about the fact that there is no preferences
[09:17] <coreymon77> and the debugging hardware detection page doesnt exist
[09:19] <hussam> anyone here running kubuntu edgy?
[09:20] <fdoving> yes.
[09:20] <hussam> fdoving, the logout button in kmenu doesn't do anything
[09:20] <hussam> I get no logout dialog
[09:20] <Sa_aD> i do
[09:22] <Hawkwind> hussam: I don't either and haven't since I installed Edgy
[09:22] <hussam> Hawkwind, ok
[09:24] <fdoving> highneko: me neither. i don't get a logout dialog. did you report the bug? i can confirm.
[09:24] <fdoving> highneko: sorry, wrong nick.
[09:24] <RogueJediX> Anyone care to solve the riddle of the missing sound that was there before the reboot?
[09:24] <fdoving> hussam: me neither. i don't get a logout dialog. did you report the bug? i can confirm.
[09:24] <fhmartensson> hi,can someone help
[09:25] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: We might if you tell us what you need help with :)
[09:25] <hussam> fdoving, I just installed kubuntu edgy a few moments ago. I'll file a bug and give you the link
[09:25] <unksi> fhmartensson: Please ask your question, not if you can ask.
[09:25] <fhmartensson> cant use windows.exe on linux
[09:25] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: .exe files are for Windows only
[09:26] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: What are you trying to do exactly ?
[09:26] <unksi> fhmartensson: You could try to run it with a program called Wine. There is no guarantee that it will work though.
[09:26] <fdoving> hussam: great. thanks :)
[09:26] <stephan> kjhk
[09:26] <stephan> khkjh
[09:26] <fhmartensson> can you pls tell me step by step of how to set up wine as though i have tried before
[09:27] <Hawkwind> !wine
[09:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:27] <unksi> Best solution would be to find a Linux equivalent of the program.
[09:27] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: Best to read that URL, and also they have a channel you can visit, #WineHQ
[09:27] <fhmartensson> how then
[09:27] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: What program are you wanting to use ?
[09:27] <fhmartensson> my wireless, so i dont have to by a new one
[09:28] <stephan> Hey Nelja, klappt doch !!!
[09:28] <Hawkwind> !wireless > fhmartensson
[09:28] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: Depending on your card/chipset, you might have to use ndiswrapper
[09:28] <nelja> Und meine Phrasen?
[09:28] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: Read the info the bot gave you, as it gives all sorts of help on wireless stuff
[09:28] <fdoving> !de
[09:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:28] <stephan> Da sind sie doch...
[09:29] <nelja> Cool! ich habe automatisch enter gedrckt und jetzt sehe sie.
[09:29] <stephan> Ich werde mich mal schnell hier registrieren, dann kann ich Dir auch private Nachreichten schreiben.
[09:29] <fhmartensson> i am very new to linux so ecuse for all the daft  questions
[09:29] <stephan> Na nu? wo Bist Du nun? Nelja????
[09:30] <fhmartensson> how do i find the terminal
[09:30] <nelja> Und jetzt versuche ich wieder kubuntu drcken
[09:30] <Hawkwind> !de
[09:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:30] <sebastian929> ok i installed imwheel on my kde machine and now it wont boot up properly
[09:30] <fdoving> stephan: #kubuntu-de please. or continue here in english.
[09:30] <Hawkwind> nelja: stephan: Try to keep it english here please
[09:30] <nelja> Nee, nur mit Enter klappt es.
[09:30] <sebastian929> can anyone help me out
[09:30] <sebastian929> please
[09:30] <stefan> re
[09:30] <Electrolyte> Does Kubuntu have a trace route command for console?
[09:30] <Hawkwind> fhmartensson: Hit alt-f2 and then type: konsole
[09:30] <fdoving> Electrolyte: you can install traceroute.
[09:31] <unksi> Electrolyte: traceroute
[09:31] <Hawkwind> Electrolyte: Yes, traceroute
[09:31] <nelja> Englisch kann ich nicht, sorry. Jenamd will mich verstehen.
[09:31] <Electrolyte> Ah, ok.
[09:31] <fdoving> nelja: english.
[09:31] <sebastian929> Kde loads up to the logon screen then i put my password and login in and it never goes into kde
[09:31] <nelja> Englisch kann ich nicht!!!
[09:31] <fdoving> nelja: then /join #kubuntu-de
[09:32] <nelja> Ich habe nur diese.
[09:32] <stephan> Nelja: es geht so: tippe /join #kubuntu-de
[09:32] <stephan> Dann bekommst Du die deutssprachigen Seiten
[09:33] <stephan> Habe ich bei mir gerade gemacht
[09:33] <stephan> Du musst alle Zeichen, auch Sonderzeichen eingeben
[09:34] <nelja> Und dann? Enter? Hat gerade nicht geklappt.
[09:34] <stephan> Ja.
[09:37] <riri> is there any kde4 krash package for dapper ?
[09:38] <Hawkwind> riri: No
[09:38] <Hawkwind> riri: It's only for Edgy AFAIK
[09:38] <sebastian929> hey can anyone help me with kde?
[09:38] <zippy> i'm looking for french ubuntu chat
[09:38] <Hawkwind> sebastian929: We can try if we know what you need help with
[09:38] <sebastian929> i installed imwheel
[09:38] <Hawkwind> zippy: #Ubuntu-FR or #Kubuntu-FR
[09:38] <sebastian929> and now it wont boot up
[09:39] <zippy> tahnx hawkind
[09:39] <sebastian929> then i went into recovery mode and used apt-get remove imwheel
[09:39] <riri> i got a problem with kdebase in edgy kde4 can compile except kdebase
[09:39] <Hawkwind> zippy: You're welcome
[09:39] <sebastian929> and now its still all screwd up
[09:39] <andy__> qualche italiano?
[09:39] <Hawkwind> sebastian929: Have you tried to remove imwheel ?
[09:39] <sebastian929> it gest to the KDE boot screen( which i disabled because i put autologin) but it goes to the login screen and when i login it wont bott into kde
[09:39] <Hawkwind> andy__: #Kubuntu-IT or #Ubuntu-IT
[09:40] <Hawkwind> sebastian929: I know nothing about imwheel so I can't really help you unfortunately
[09:40] <andy__> thanks
[09:40] <andi_> in a Function for example int Sum(int a,int b) then, int is Parameter and (int a,int b) are the arguments ! Is that right ?
[09:41] <sebastian929> well is there a way i can check where its stalling?
[09:43] <sebastian929> Hawkwind: is there anyway to check where its stalling?
[09:45] <surfacing> Hallo! Bruchte schnell hilfe bitte!
[09:45] <sui> fdoving: I already ha ao_driver in my mpd.conf
[09:45] <sui> s/ha/had/     it's working now
[09:46] <unksi> !de
[09:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:46] <|lostbyte|> Could soemone help me connect to a open ap ?
[09:47] <sui> *hehe* good to know there are german chans too. i joined #kubuntu.de and i was the only one ;)
[09:47] <coreymon77> no matter what i do
[09:47] <coreymon77> i cant get my sound working
[09:48] <donTaquero_> Oops! Good afternoon! I have a problem with Konqueror browser. I attempt to see a YouTube video but the sound don't operate. I have two cards SiS SI7012 and USB Audio. Both works fine but I use USB Audio to amarok and xmms. I need to configure the sound output to Flash to ear YouTube videos. How to do it?
[09:48] <donTaquero_> Thanks in advance!
[09:48] <coreymon77> i have an sblive card
[09:49] <coreymon77> and no matter what i do
[09:49] <Raul12> cant play mp3
[09:49] <coreymon77> i cant get it to work
[09:49] <coreymon77> !!!
[09:49] <coreymon77> im getting extremely frustrated
[09:49] <Raul12> after applying Gstreamer
[09:50] <coreymon77> i seriously do not know what to do know
[09:50] <coreymon77> now
[09:51] <Raul12> cant play mp3
[09:51] <coreymon77> can someone please help me
[09:51] <Hawkwind> donTaquero: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1087994
[09:51] <coreymon77> im getting desperate now
[09:51] <Hawkwind> donTaquero: Have you looked at that URL.  Lots of people have used it and been successful
[09:52] <Raul12> cant play mp3
[09:52] <mrj> hello guys
[09:52] <coreymon77> raul: atleast you can play everything else
[09:53] <coreymon77> i cant do anything
[09:53] <mrj> i have a problem here
[09:53] <Raul12> no man
[09:53] <mrj> i ve bought an HP nx6325 with an wireless Broadcom on it
[09:53] <Raul12> i cant play anything
[09:53] <mrj> and i ve tried a lots of tutorials
[09:53] <NDPTAL85> mrj: Have you installed KNetworkManager?
[09:54] <JFreakCapo> hi, where can find lincity how play ?
[09:54] <Hawkwind> !info lincity
[09:54] <ubotu> lincity: build & maintain a city/country. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.13.1-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 502 kB, installed size 2856 kB
[09:54] <Hawkwind> JFreakCapo: It's in Universe
[09:55] <mrj> i ve finally managed to install the broadcom wireles adapter by extracting the firmware from the wl_apsta.o in /lib/firmware
[09:55] <coreymon77> raul: does sound work otherwise
[09:55] <JFreakCapo> but i don't now how play it where can i get info...
[09:55] <unclemike> ? is there a newer kernel then 2.6.15-23 for kubuntu
[09:55] <mrj> NDPTAL85: Knetworkmanager does'nt work by me
[09:55] <Raul12> yea
[09:55] <Hawkwind> JFreakCapo: Google for their website
[09:55] <Raul12> it work
[09:55] <belal122> hi,  is the color scheme for kubuntu knot 2 the decided color? or will it change?
[09:55] <Hawkwind> unclemike: You can build your own very easily following a how-to I have on LFD
[09:55] <coreymon77> raul: well then you are a step ahead of me
[09:55] <JFreakCapo> sorry but not find how play... :(
[09:56] <Hawkwind> JFreakCapo: http://lincity.sourceforge.net/
[09:56] <coreymon77> Raul12: alright what do you mean you cant play mp3s or anything?
[09:57] <unclemike> Hawkwind: ok thanks....like your E17....is there away to put everything in a menu
[09:57] <mrj`> NDPTAL85: the blue LED light is now funktioning
[09:57] <Raul12> i cant play mp3 in amy music player
[09:57] <Raul12> or avis
[09:57] <mrj`> i am also able to see the possible wireless networks
[09:57] <mrj`> BUT
[09:57] <coreymon77> try real player
[09:57] <Raul12> amarok
[09:57] <mrj`> i cannot connect to anyone
[09:58] <Raul12> i cant play that
[09:58] <coreymon77> ?
[09:58] <mrj`> i ve tried it under WIn and it works with the same settigns of the router
[09:58] <Hawkwind> unclemike: You can edit menus with entangle
[09:58] <NDPTAL85> mrj`: Sorry I don't know what else to suggest.
[09:58] <Raul12> i cant play mp3 with amarok or music player
[09:58] <unclemike> Hawkwind: ok thanks
[09:58] <mrj`> NDPTAL85: do you have the same wireless card ?
[09:59] <mrj`> somebody ?
[09:59] <coreymon77> raul: apt-get install realplayer
[09:59] <mrj`> i ve spend the whole weekend with that
[09:59] <JFreakCapo> thks
[09:59] <angasule> !mp3
[09:59] <coreymon77> try using real player and it may work
[09:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:59] <mrj`> and i can nnot find any solution
[09:59] <mrj`> !broadcom
[09:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:59] <Raul12> ok
[09:59] <sebastian929> hey
[09:59] <coreymon77> you can download from the real web site www.real.com
[09:59] <coreymon77> or use apt
[10:00] <NDPTAL85> mrj`: Have you tried the Ubuntu/Kubuntu forums on Ubuntu.com
[10:00] <sebastian929> can someone please tell me how to check where KDE is stopping before booting
[10:00] <coreymon77> dont know if apt is the latest version of real player though
[10:00] <sebastian929> is there a log file i can check?
[10:00] <Raul12> and real player dont play avis
[10:00] <mrj`> NDPTAL85: yes and i ve managed to install the wifi card but i can not connect to any wireless network
[10:00] <sui> sebastian929: afair ist /var/log/kdm.log the place where kde puts its logs
[10:00] <coreymon77> ya it does
[10:00] <coreymon77> ive done it
[10:00] <Raul12> that what i found out in fedora
[10:00] <sebastian929> sui: thanks
[10:01] <Raul12> ok i try then
[10:01] <coreymon77> fedoras is probably different
[10:01] <coreymon77> everything of fedoras is different
[10:01] <mrj`> NDPTAL85: it tries to connect and says: connection failed - and i can not explain that myself
[10:01] <coreymon77> cause fedora is red hat and kubuntu is debian
[10:02] <slow-motion> n8
[10:03] <Raul12> couldnt find a package realplayer
[10:04] <Raul12> man i cant find real player with apt -get
[10:04] <sebastian929> can someone help me figure out why i cant boot into kde please?
[10:05] <sui> coreymon77: not only fedora ist different from another distribution ;) take a look at SuSE or gentoo ;)
[10:06] <sui> sebastian929: if you have any question you can ask here- it'll help perhaps others with the same problem
[10:06] <sebastian929> ok i installed imwheel on my computer and now instead of autologgin into kde it goes to the boot screen.. i cant login into kde.. i put my login in and then it just goes back to the login screen
[10:07] <sebastian929> i went into recovery mode and uninstalled imwheel using apt-get remove imwheel
[10:07] <sebastian929> but it still wont let me into kde
[10:07] <Ayabara> does anyone have the media keys working on an inspiron laptop?
[10:07] <sebastian929> i just want to know how i can find out whats stopping my kde from booting up
[10:09] <sui> i don't know imwheel, nor what it's doing. has anything else changed?
[10:09] <sebastian929> no
[10:09] <sebastian929> is there a way to see where KDE is stalling
[10:09] <florin> something might be wrong in kde`s settings
[10:09] <sebastian929> or if theres a error when booting
[10:09] <sebastian929> but what could imwheel change that would not allow me to get into kde
[10:09] <sebastian929> i havent touched anything else
[10:10] <florin> in which case you can move ~/.kde to ~/.kde-old
[10:10] <sebastian929> i even backed up my xorg before installing imwheel
[10:10] <florin> and retry
[10:10] <sebastian929> florin: how do i do that
[10:10] <sebastian929> er
[10:10] <sebastian929> nevermind hold on one sec
[10:10] <florin> sebastian929:  cd ~; mv .kde .kde-old
[10:10] <Pointblank> hey all
[10:11] <sebastian929> ok what will that do
[10:11] <sebastian929> im not in kde im in windows right now i have to do it in here
[10:11] <sui> sebastian929: it will create a new kde config
[10:11] <florin> sebastian929: better boot in single mode or a non-graphic runlevel
[10:11] <coreymon77> raul: go to www.real.com and download it manually
[10:11] <sebastian929> ok
[10:11] <Pointblank> my cd drive is not being recognised and i can't access it, how do i find it and mount it?
[10:11] <sebastian929> brbr let me try this out
[10:11] <florin> sebastian929: will create new defaults
[10:11] <sebastian929> ok
[10:12] <sui> i'm using a thinkpad with kmilo- is there a possibility to change the layout of the "popup-window"?
[10:13] <ZkYeZ> is it possible to bind a function+f2 to a unix command?
[10:13] <sui> its quite ugly ;)
[10:13] <Pointblank> anybody know how i can find my cd drive and mount it so i can acess files on it?
[10:16] <SpAwN> Pointblank, assuming that your cdrom drive is /dev/cdrom use "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /where/u/want/to/mount/it"
[10:16] <SpAwN> Pointblank, your cdrom could be called somthing diff too...
[10:18] <Pointblank> ah nice that worked
[10:18] <sebastian929> hey
[10:18] <sebastian929> it didnt work :(
[10:18] <SpAwN> Pointblank, good =D
[10:18] <sebastian929> is there anyway of fixing this or should i just reformat??
[10:19] <Pointblank> is there a way to get it to appear 'storage media' called like 'cdrom'?
[10:19] <SpAwN> Pointblank, on my system all i have to do is "sudo mount /media/cdrom" and it mounts it
[10:19] <SpAwN> Pointblank, the 1st way i showed u to mount it is like the last case cenerio....alot of times it will auto mount...or u will be able to use a shorter command
[10:20] <sebastian929> sui: what can i do to see where its stopping the bootup?
[10:20] <SpAwN> sebastian929, whats the problem?
[10:20] <sebastian929> i cant boot into kde
[10:20] <sebastian929> it gest to the login screen
[10:20] <SpAwN> it boots to command line only?
[10:20] <SpAwN> so u see the kdm log on screen?
[10:20] <sebastian929> and put my login and the monitor turns off and on and it goes back to the login screen
[10:20] <sebastian929> it wont let me go past the login screen
[10:21] <SpAwN> hmm
[10:21] <SpAwN> sebastian929, try this real quick
[10:21] <sebastian929> ok
[10:21] <SpAwN> in the login screen
[10:21] <sebastian929> this happend after installing imwheel btw
[10:21] <SpAwN> type ctrl alt f1
[10:21] <SpAwN> it will drop u to a command line
[10:21] <sebastian929> ok
[10:21] <sebastian929> then waht
[10:21] <SpAwN> log in to your account there
[10:21] <sebastian929> i can login
[10:21] <sebastian929> i just cant get into kde :S
[10:21] <Pointblank> ok i see
[10:21] <dereks_> hey, is there support to have a freenx server?
[10:21] <SpAwN> then mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-backup
[10:22] <sebastian929> did that already also :$
[10:22] <sebastian929> didnt owrk
[10:22] <sebastian929> work :(
[10:22] <SpAwN> sebastian929, ouch
[10:22] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: He's tried all that
[10:22] <SpAwN> sebastian929, sorry
[10:22] <sebastian929> how could a program like imwheel screw up my kde so bad
[10:22] <yannux> hye everybody
[10:22] <highneko> What filesystem should I make my extra hdd? I'm using it for data like movies pictures, and stuff.
[10:22] <SpAwN> sebastian929, did u tamper with your xorg.conf?
[10:22] <sebastian929> nope
[10:22] <sebastian929> i backed it up before installing imwheel
[10:23] <SpAwN> hmm
[10:23] <sebastian929> then copied the backup back after uninstalling imwheel =\
[10:23] <SpAwN> i dont even know what imwheel is
[10:23] <yannux> I've a little problem with kde, when I want to disconnect from my session, any window appear to choose Reboot or Halt
[10:23] <sebastian929> i was using it to get my mouse working with all 5 buttons
[10:23] <SpAwN> ah
[10:23] <yannux> someone has an idea ?
[10:24] <SpAwN> sebastian929, and u are 1000000000000%  sure that the back copy of the xonf over wrote the one that imwheel wrote?
[10:24] <SpAwN> *conf
[10:24] <SpAwN> sorry my typing sucks today ;D
[10:24] <sebastian929> yes
[10:24] <highneko> Does this os have some program I can open for creating partitions?
[10:24] <sebastian929> becuaes i installed imwheel before
[10:24] <sebastian929> and had to reformat before
[10:24] <sebastian929> but i thought this time it would work
[10:24] <sebastian929> i guess not :(
[10:24] <Pointblank> im installing a windows game through wine and its asking for where to install it, do i leave it as 'C:/programfiles..... or change it to like /usr/games/....
[10:25] <sui> highneko: try qtparted
[10:25] <sebastian929> is there anyway to check where its not working?
[10:25] <sebastian929> like in a log file?
[10:25] <SpAwN> sebastian929, i hate that....u think u will be able to fix it THIS time....but nope...doesnt always work that way
[10:25] <highneko> Pointblank: It should install like /home/username/.wine/program files/
[10:25] <sebastian929> yah but i cant beleive that a program like that would be able to screw up my kde =\
[10:25] <sebastian929> frig i dont want to reinstall its kind of a pain haha
[10:25] <SpAwN> Pointblank, when i install stuff with wine/cedega i leave the default place to install
[10:26] <Pointblank> k
[10:26] <SpAwN> usealy wintin ~/.wine or ~/.cedega
[10:26] <SpAwN> sebastian929, im not sure its kde now
[10:26] <SpAwN> sebastian929, but i could be totaly wrong
[10:26] <ZkYeZ> cedega sux ass
[10:26] <SpAwN> ummno
[10:26] <SpAwN> cedega works great
[10:26] <Pointblank> i just put cd in, clicked on setup.exe and open with'ed wine, is this the right way to go about it?
[10:26] <sebastian929> what else could i check out?
[10:26] <ZkYeZ> the opengl implement is odd and unstable
[10:26] <SpAwN> Pointblank, pretty much
[10:26] <Pointblank> k cool
[10:27] <SpAwN> sebastian929, maby try to reconfigure your xorg.conf
[10:27] <ZkYeZ> for me starcraft and cedega didn`t work together
[10:27] <ZkYeZ> starcraft and wine did
[10:27] <SpAwN> ZkYeZ, umm it can be with ati
[10:27] <Hawkwind> sebastian929: Have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:27] <highneko> Same for me. I couldn't figure out how cedega worked.
[10:27] <sebastian929> hmm
[10:27] <sebastian929> no i havent
[10:27] <sebastian929> should i try that out?
[10:28] <ZkYeZ> SpAwN: it`s an intel but it is not relevant. it`s software rendering
[10:28] <ZkYeZ> the 3d stuff is from unreal tournament for windows and ut for linux
[10:28] <sui> !gcc
[10:28] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:28] <SpAwN> ZkYeZ, i dont have may problems with cedega
[10:28] <ZkYeZ> the 80 fps that were the difference make me think that their opengl sux
[10:28] <sui> !f77
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f77 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <Pointblank> it says it cant make the folder and it should be written like 'C:/apps'
[10:29] <SpAwN> i play cs and cs:s and gta:sa and tehey all have minor glitches...but nothing that makes them unplayable
[10:29] <ZkYeZ> SpAwN: what`s the latest version of cedega?
[10:29] <SpAwN> umm
[10:29] <SpAwN> 5.2.3 or 5
[10:29] <SpAwN> i forget
[10:29] <sebastian929> ok brb i gotta try this out
[10:30] <SpAwN> ZkYeZ, hehe 80 fps difference...hehe
[10:30] <Pointblank> how do i go about this if its asking to install it in C:/apps
[10:30] <ZkYeZ> i have 5.2.3
[10:30] <SpAwN> Pointblank, wine is like this
[10:31] <ZkYeZ> engine is 5.2.6.
[10:31] <SpAwN> Pointblank, it all goes in ~/.wine in there there should be a c_drive which is = to your c:
[10:31] <SpAwN> so if it asks u to install in c:apps
[10:31] <SpAwN> it would be /home/user/.wine/c_drive/apps
[10:31] <SpAwN> if im not mistaken
[10:31] <Pointblank> so if i just leave the default path as 'C:/Program Files...' and it creates the foler, it  will make that folder in '.wine'?
[10:32] <ZkYeZ> anyone tried opensuse 10.1 b4?
[10:32] <Ayabara> will a *.sh script run at startup of I put it in .kde/Autostart? I tried putting it there and restarting X, but it seemed it did not work
[10:32] <SpAwN> c_drive = drive_c
[10:32] <ZkYeZ> 10.2 i mean
 I try to play game with cedega but dont' works for example need for speed most wanted
 the game just stop and hangs
[10:32] <SpAwN> JFreakCapo, i played nfs underground 2..havent tried the most wanted
[10:32] <Pointblank> ah awesome i see it now
[10:33] <dreameen> hey guys
 how works undergound 2 ?
[10:33] <dreameen> can u pls tell me how to disable filesystem checking on each boot up??
[10:33] <SpAwN> JFreakCapo, actualy decently.....it had a few glitches...but all in all id say it was very playable
[10:33] <dereks_> is there official support for freenx in dapper?
 do you play others games ?
[10:34] <Pointblank> brb
[10:35] <SpAwN> JFreakCapo, yes....hitman:contracts worked good, counter strike and counter strike source, dod, dod source, nfs u2, mtx:motorcross,umm
[10:36] <sebastian929> spawn: didnt work :(
 i gonna try it thks
[10:36] <SpAwN> JFreakCapo, http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/ i wouldnt try anything with less then 3 starts on playability
[10:36] <surgy> ok im having instalation problems
[10:36] <unclemike> ? whats the command to edit /ect/x11 xorg.conf..as root
[10:36] <SpAwN> JFreakCapo, also the games with a * next to them are officialy supported...and have a better chance of working
[10:36] <mrj_> re
[10:36] <mrj_> could someone help me sith BROADCOM Wireless ond Kubuntu ?
[10:36] <mrj_> I ve installed the card but i can not connect
[10:37] <surgy> unclemike: su gedit /etc/x11.conf
[10:37] <mrj_> i need help !
[10:37] <SpAwN> sebastian929, damn,,,,,,,not sure what else to have u do atm.....but i am about to leave...so stick around
[10:37] <SpAwN> sebastian929, someone should be able to help u
[10:37] <|lostbyte|> mrj_, i know some place better ---> #bcm-users
[10:37] <unclemike> surgy: thanks
[10:37] <|lostbyte|> mrj_, very healpfull people.
[10:37] <Ayabara> how can I make an sh script run at boot?
[10:37] <sebastian929> spawn thanks for all the help
[10:37] <SpAwN> not a prob at all sebastian929 =D
[10:37] <sebastian929> can anyone else help me figure this problem out?
[10:38] <surgy> i have an 80gb hdd partioned into a 20 gb part. and a 55 gb part. im trying to put xubuntu on the 20 gb part but it keeps hanging can someone help?
[10:38] <surgy> unclemike: np
[10:38] <mrj_> |lostbyte|: THANKY U SO MUCH !
[10:38] <mrj_> :)
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> Ayabara, at kde boot or kernel boot ?
[10:38] <sebastian929> i think im goin to reformat my linux drive should i go with a 64bit or 32bit kubuntu?
[10:38] <surgy> ?
[10:39] <sebastian929> i have a 64bit processor
[10:39] <unclemike> surgy: just X11.conf   no xorg.conf
[10:39] <sebastian929> i was running 64 bit before
[10:39] <surgy> unclemike: what are you talking about?
[10:39] <sui> sebastian929: why do you want to reinstall?
[10:39] <sebastian929> because i cant boot into it
[10:39] <sebastian929> so i might as well reinstall
[10:40] <surgy> can anyone help me?
[10:40] <unclemike> you said su gedit /ect/x11.conf...and im editing the xorg.conf
[10:40] <sebastian929> sui: do you know anything else i can cehck?
[10:40] <sui> sebastian929: thats windows-behaviour
[10:40] <Ayabara> |lostbyte|, doesn't matter I think. it's a bunch of xmodmap calls to make the media keys of my laptop work
[10:40] <surgy> unclemike: oh lol sorry its the same either way though
[10:40] <unclemike> ohh ok..
[10:40] <Hawkwind> sebastian929: Stick with 32bit by all means
[10:41] <surgy> just gedit /etc/xorg.conf
[10:41] <|lostbyte|> Ayabara, place it in.. .kde/Autostart/
[10:41] <sui> sebastian929: no, i can't help you, cause i'm not firm with ubuntu-- but I suppose you can find the answer on the net. try to ask go-ora-gle
[10:41] <obf213> anyone know where you can watch nfl online w/ linux.
[10:41] <sui> sebastian929: is X starting?
[10:41] <|lostbyte|> nfl ?
[10:41] <sebastian929> i dunno how can i tell?
[10:41] <Ayabara> |lostbyte|, should it run if I restart X then, or when I restart the kernel
[10:41] <|lostbyte|> Ayabara, restart X
[10:42] <surgy> does someone know a little about partitions? mind giving me some info on swaps and stuff?
[10:42] <Hawkwind> obf213: You can't AFAIK
[10:42] <Ayabara> |lostbyte|, thanks
[10:42] <obf213> are they working on flash 8 for linux
[10:42] <sebastian929> sui: how can i tell i get to the boot screen
[10:42] <sebastian929> sui: where i login to kde
[10:42] <Hawkwind> obf213: No new flash for Linux til after the first of the year.  We'll have flash 9 as our next version
[10:43] <|lostbyte|> surgy, NOTE : Swap should be equal to the ram your having.
[10:43] <obf213> ahh i c. just in time for the superbowl? lol this sucks
[10:43] <|lostbyte|> np
[10:43] <sui> sebastian929: your system has already bootet, i suppose. it's a login error you get
[10:43] <draik> QUESTION: If I do a 1-to-1 copy of a DVD, can I use K3B or do I have to use K9Copy?
[10:43] <Hawkwind> draik: k9copy
[10:43] <sebastian929> sui: yah im trying to figure out this error
[10:43] <Hawkwind> draik: You have to shrink it first, if it's a movie DVD
[10:43] <sebastian929> sui: i know its windows behaviour but right now kubuntu is acting like windows
[10:43] <draik> no way I can do 1-to-1?
[10:43] <Hawkwind> draik: If it's regular data, then you can straight copy it
[10:43] <sebastian929> install one package and its toast
[10:44] <draik> oic
[10:44] <Hawkwind> draik: Not if it's a movie, no
[10:44] <draik> ok
[10:44] <surgy> lostbyte: but the partition manager on the kubuntu installer is saying i need a completely seperate partition just for swap.......should i partition 512 mb off of the 20gb partition?
[10:44] <draik> Thank you Hawkwind
[10:44] <draik> Just wanted to clarify
[10:44] <Hawkwind> draik: No problem
[10:44] <Hawkwind> draik: You can use k3b for movies if you have dual layer DVD's which I doubt you do :P
[10:44] <draik> Is there a faster way of copying 1-to-1?
[10:44] <|lostbyte|> surgy, yes, partition it and name it linux-swap
[10:44] <draik> I have a dual-layer burner, but not the media
[10:45] <sui> sebastian929: try update-rc.d xorg-common defaults; update-rc.d kdm defaults
[10:45] <Hawkwind> draik: Then you have to use k9copy
[10:45] <draik> nothing faster?
[10:45] <sebastian929> ok
[10:45] <surgy> lostbyte i allready split it up 20 gb for kubuntu and 55 gb for windows, so now your saying i need to take more off of the 20 gb?
[10:45] <sebastian929> brb
[10:45] <Hawkwind> draik: Nope
[10:45] <draik> oh well :(
[10:45] <|lostbyte|> surgy, i am only saying keep a partiton for swap.
[10:46] <surgy> lostbyte i only have two partitions.........
[10:46] <surgy> lostbyte and windows cant be removed becuase win32 emulation isnt where i want it to be
[10:46] <draik> Hey Hawkwind, the book Beginning Ubuntu Linux and Linux Pocket Guide come in handy... if only I would have noticed that the Linux Pocket Guide was for Fedora...
[10:47] <Pointblank> hey all back
[10:47] <|lostbyte|> huh, So is this a freah linux install..
[10:47] <|lostbyte|> surgy, are you installing kubuntu at the moment ?
[10:47] <Raul12> ok i play mp3 with real player but not any avis or mpegs
[10:47] <surgy> lostbyte can i use my windows partition  as a swap? (that whould destroy windows right?)
[10:48] <Pointblank> y'know once ive installed a game using wine, if i wanted to uninstall it, is it just a case of deleting the files from the .wine folder
[10:48] <|lostbyte|> surgy, it would.
[10:48] <surgy> lostbyte yes im talking to you with the live cd and running the installer in the background
[10:48] <|lostbyte|> surgy, k, then resize your linux partion down, giving place fore swap.
[10:49] <surgy> lostbyte 1gb whould be enough for swap?
[10:49] <sh4d3z> more than enough
[10:49] <|lostbyte|> surgy, Yes..
[10:50] <yannux> nobody for my problem ?
[10:50] <surgy> ok just so happens i had 1.492 mb at the end after i changed the ubuntu part to 20gb
[10:50] <Pointblank> ok cool i found the wine uninstaller
[10:51] <sh4d3z> ooo where is that?
[10:51] <ZkYeZ> wish me luck. i`m updating dapper to edgy
[10:51] <surgy> lostbyte i should format the small one as "linux-swap" ?
[10:51] <ZkYeZ> any success/horror stories?
[10:51] <yannux> I've a problem with disconnect session :s
[10:51] <yannux> any windows appear to choose halt or reboot
[10:52] <yannux> or just quit kde
[10:52] <yannux> someone can help me ?
[10:52] <unclemike> surgy: on the su gedit /ect/x11.conf.... gedit or kwrite come up unknown ID:
[10:52] <naegling23> when I run sudo dpkg --configure -a in console, errors come up in mythtv and mythtv database, this causes errors when trying to install packages in adept, what can I do to fix these errors, both mythtv programs are installed and running fine?
[10:52] <Tulpe_> Hello, my usb wlan stick doenst work, i need help...
[10:53] <RogueJediX> Anyone else have trouble accessing kubuntu.pastebin.com?
[10:53] <surgy> unclemike i think its /etc/X11.conf (with a capitol X)
[10:53] <Tulpe_> if i start the interface i got a message: SET failed on device wlan0
[10:53] <surgy> why isnt my new partition showing!!!!
[10:53] <Hawkwind> RogueJediX: Nope, works here just fine
[10:53] <surgy> under prepare mount points
[10:53] <RogueJediX> Weird
[10:53] <Tulpe_> can anyone help me?
[10:53] <Tulpe_> just open query pls
[10:53] <Azzco> I'm wondering about how to write h2o with the 2 a bit lower... does anyone know how?
[10:54] <Hawkwind> Tulpe_: Just ask your question here in the channel
[10:54] <yannux> erf any help ??
[10:54] <yannux> :s
[10:54] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i start multiple x server?
[10:54] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: startx -- :2
[10:54] <Tulpe_> ok, /etc/init.d/network restart
[10:55] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: Or you can do startx /path/to/gnome -- :2
[10:55] <Azzco> MetaMorfoziS,  it's easy "sudo X :1"
[10:55] <Tulpe_> and then: SET failed for devive wlan0: Operation not supported
[10:55] <MetaMorfoziS> hoho azzco thx, and how can i start a kdm for it?
[10:55] <RogueJediX> Can someone please take a look at my aadebug output and see if they can find anything unusual or wrong?
[10:56] <surgy> ok see you guys aft install
[10:56] <Azzco> you can swith between xserver with Ctrl + Alt + F7/F8 and you can launch an xterm in display :1 with "xterm -display :1"
[10:56] <unclemike> surgy: how about kdesu gedit....
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> its in f9
[10:57] <surgy> unclemike what?
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@sajtroot:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start -DISPLAY:1
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[10:57] <Tulpe_> the configuration in /etc/network/interfaces look properly correct
[10:57] <surgy> uncle mike rephrase your question
[10:57] <Azzco> MetaMorfoziS,  okay well you should be able to navigate a bit with your console on the other Xserver ;) (I'm not good at this as I learned it myself a few days ago)
[10:58] <Tulpe_> ive set the ESSID und the encryptiopn key
[10:58] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: Do it from another tty, hit ctrl-alt-f4
[10:58] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: Log in there and do it from that screen
[10:58] <unclemike> editing the xorg.conf.....kdesu is working insted of su
[10:58] <chozabu> join #pyweek
[10:59] <chozabu> whoops
[10:59] <MetaMorfoziS> Hawkwind: it not work, it hink my syntax is bad... how? /etc/init.d/kdm start DISPLAY=1 or DISPLAY 1 or DISPLAY:1 or DISPLAY=1:0 or what?
[11:00] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: startx -- :1
[11:00] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: I've never seen it work with the commands you are trying to issue
[11:00] <_ShoGo_> have edgy been released?
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> Fatal server error:
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> Server is already active for display 0
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS>         If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS>         and start again.
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> but i have running x
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> on f9
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> but i can1t start kdm again
[11:01] <MetaMorfoziS> because it said it's already running, that is true, but i want once again:D
[11:02] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: what you want is for kde to start multiple X instances, which I think you'd set up in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[11:02] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: Try startx -- :2  then
[11:03] <MetaMorfoziS> startx starts kde?
[11:03] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: It works here without editing any files for starting multiple X sessions
[11:03] <MetaMorfoziS> or only x?
[11:03] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: It starts KDE by default, yes
[11:03] <MetaMorfoziS> startx always gets errors
[11:03] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: But do it from a different tty like ctrl-alt-f4
[11:03] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, it do the same error from konsole
[11:03] <sum> kann mir spontan jemand ein bildverwaltungstool empfehlen ;)
[11:04] <MetaMorfoziS> StaticServers=:0,:1 ?
[11:07] <robert____> hey, was geht hier?
[11:10] <ravenous> maybe im missing the button but can you set kde to switch desktops when you bump the side of the screen?
[11:17] <ubuntu_> hi ever body
[11:19] <ubuntu_> i was just wonder how do you get m3p working
[11:19] <ubuntu_> mp3
[11:20] <MattyMatt> hi all. I just installed kubuntu 6.06.  It never asked me for a root password
[11:21] <ubuntu_> the password is the one you picked for your reguler name
[11:22] <ubuntu_> you have to use sudo first
[11:22] <MattyMatt> su root says Sorry
[11:24] <lupine_85> su passwd to set a real root password - although you don't generally need
[11:24] <lupine_85> ...it
[11:24] <lupine_85> erm, sudo passwd rather
[11:24] <lupine_85> sudo (for console) and kdesu (for GUI) are what Kubuntu generally uses for gaining root privs on an app-by-app basis
[11:25] <MattyMatt> sweet. got it
[11:26] <orient2000> Hi! Does anybody know how to increase volume in .avi movie? Is there any program in Kubuntu to do it?
[11:27] <Raul12> man these kbuntu gives notthin
[11:27] <Raul12> not even any codec to play any thing
[11:27] <Raul12> grrrr
[11:29] <orient2000> I can play all .ogg, mp3, watch the movies, no problem.
[11:29] <Hawkwind> Raul12: Sure it does.  You just have to install them
[11:29] <Hawkwind> !codecs
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <orient2000> .avi, dvd,s all is there to get to work --- easy kubuntu?
[11:30] <Raul12> no
[11:30] <Raul12> they all given half hartened software
[11:30] <Raul12> no 1 work on start
[11:30] <Hawkwind> Raul12: Not true.  It works for everyone that has installed them
[11:30] <Hawkwind> Raul12: It doesn't have the support due to legal issues
[11:30] <Raul12> u have 2 find configure
[11:31] <orient2000> It is microsoft and other companies blocking codecs.
[11:31] <Hawkwind> No you don't
[11:31] <Raul12> then it work
[11:31] <Raul12> uffff
[11:31] <Hawkwind> Raul12: If you install the stuff it tells you then it simply works
[11:31] <orient2000> Hi! Does anybody know how to increase volume in .avi movie? Is there any program in Kubuntu to do it?
[11:31] <sui> i installed the w32codecs and all the other today... it's working fine
[11:31] <Raul12> that what i am doin 4 past 6 hrs
[11:31] <Hawkwind> orient2000: Please don't repeat every couple of minutes. If/When someone knows and can help they will
[11:32] <sui> orient2000: use kmix, or the button in kaffeine
[11:32] <Hawkwind> orient2000: Are you talking about increasing it within the file itself...or just turning up the volume on your system ?
[11:33] <sander_> Does anyone know is there a way to change device numbers on a hard drive? I.e. change sda7 to sda8
[11:33] <MattyMatt> it's the FSF who forbid the distribution of closed source codecs and drivers with GPL kernel
[11:33] <Hawkwind> sander_: That is dependant on where it's plugged in on the cable within the system
[11:34] <sander_> In this case I installed Kubuntu and it changes the partition number when I recreated it and moved everything around. sda5 became sda8 and the other linux can't find anything.
[11:35] <sander_> I thought the gparted cd could change this ordering, but I was wrong.
[11:35] <Raul12> no it cant
[11:36] <Raul12> u just have write down u partition before makin any changes
[11:37] <sander_> Yeah, I keep trying to boot back in to suse, but there's some setting that causes the kernel to panic before I can edit fstab to let it know where things are.
[11:37] <sander_> Maybe I can edit the fstab on that drive from in kubuntu...
[11:38] <Raul12> restart kbuntu in fail safe mode then root then fstab
[11:39] <ubuntu> hello
[11:39] <tj> hey
[11:39] <tj> why cant i play tghis game i downloaded
[11:39] <tj> i have windows crossover?
[11:40] <Vegeta^> Where do I find the equiv. of System -> Preferences -> Sound (gnome) in KDE?
[11:41] <tj> uh can someone help me?
[11:41] <_bbeck> Vegeta^: System Settings -> Sound & Multimedia I assume, never used gnome.
[11:41] <Vegeta^> ok
[11:42] <tj> now can someone hellp me please
[11:42] <sui> tj: you're asking meta-questions
[11:43] <tj> how do i get to meta or.......wat do i do
[11:43] <tj> iim a noob
[11:44] <sui> tj: helpful for us is: what have you installed, what have you done, have you looked on the web for an answer?
[11:44] <sui> tj: nice document: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[11:44] <tj> no i hsavent
[11:44] <tj> ill look there
[11:45] <tj> im just gonna delete it for now till my friend "xcalibur" comes over and shows me
[11:45] <orient2000> thanks <sui> Kmix is perfect. Have a nice day to all. James.
[11:45] <tj> but can someone give me the link to offtopic
[11:46] <GNUrante> Hi
[11:46] <Hawkwind> tj: You mean #Kubuntu-OffTopic ?
[11:46] <tj> yah thanks cya
[11:47] <sui> *shrug*
[11:47] <sui> sometimes i'm scared ;>
[11:48] <Raul12> where externally installed software stored on the system
[11:48] <sui> Raul12: what "software"? how did you install it?
[11:49] <sui> Raul12: which programname is your friend
[11:49] <Raul12> real player
[11:49] <Raul12> or if i install amarok from external source
[11:50] <sui> Raul12: why didn't you use apt to install real?
[11:50] <Raul12> i didt found it
[11:50] <Raul12> in apt
[11:50] <sui> Raul12: depends on your configureprefix
[11:50] <Raul12> how do i know that
[11:51] <sander_> Thanks for the help Raul12 and Hawkwind
[11:52] <sui> Raul12: you set it yourself. normally you find all software under /usr/bin, sometimes in /usr/local/bin and in same rare cases in /opt
[11:52] <Raul12> thanks sui
[11:53] <TheGateKeeper> Raul12: you want to install realplayer?
[11:55] <alex_> has anyone dual booted vista with dapper?
[11:58] <reuwen> a ver
[11:58] <Kr4t05> alex_: No one dual-boots anymore. All the cool kids use VMWare. :P
[11:58] <Kr4t05> Eureka!!
[11:58] <kendrick> hey there.
[11:59] <kendrick> what package contains the menu updater tool for KDE?
[11:59] <reuwen> pffff
[11:59] <kendrick> (the one that finds apps that you might want added to the K menu)
[12:00] <kendrick> .. in the meantime, i'm starving! bbiab
[12:02] <Raul12> real player cant play avis
[12:03] <firesuite_> hey guys, is there a decent photoshop package for Linux?
[12:04] <sui> firesuite_: try gimp or gimpshop
[12:04] <firesuite_> thanks i'll take a look
[12:05] <Raul12> how to see running process in ubuntu
[12:05] <Kr4t05> Raul12: CTRL+ESC
[12:06] <Kr4t05> I think...
[12:07] <sui> Kr4t05: jap, you're right
[12:07] <Kr4t05> Kewl
[12:07] <firesuite_> Raul try this - http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/linux/docs/uniqlinuxfeatures/lsst/ch02sec20.html
[12:08] <Raul12> thankx