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| Burgundavia | anybody here I can give feedback on the art to | 12:10 |
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| Burgundavia | ? | 12:10 |
| kwwii | sure | 12:21 |
| kwwii | let me have it :-) | 12:21 |
| kwwii | which art do you mean? | 12:21 |
| kwwii | ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, or xubuntu? | 12:22 |
| troy_s | ? | 12:42 |
| troy_s | burgundavia | 12:42 |
| Burgundavia | troy_s, kwwii: ubuntu | 12:53 |
| troy_s | sure... | 12:53 |
| kwwii | Burgundavia: definitely | 12:53 |
| Burgundavia | I love the new background, except for one part: the blue on it | 12:53 |
| Burgundavia | The login splash is just as good as the old one | 12:54 |
| troy_s | Burgundavia its a nightmare currently... it sort of spiraled from a cmyk to rgb transition | 12:54 |
| Burgundavia | however, the one piece I would like to see the same is the login screen (gdm theme) | 12:54 |
| kwwii | blue in the wallpaper? | 12:54 |
| kwwii | in ubuntu? | 12:54 |
| kwwii | huh? | 12:54 |
| Burgundavia | jdub was mentioning how this is the first thing that people see when they walk up to an Ubuntu machine | 12:54 |
| Burgundavia | the blue in the upper right | 12:54 |
| troy_s | the gdm has thus far been the most widely acclaimed change. i don't know how it will change etc. a large part is determined by the gods. | 12:55 |
| Burgundavia | plus the new gdm theme is much darker | 12:55 |
| Burgundavia | if there is one direction our artwork should not go, it is darker | 12:55 |
| Burgundavia | the old gdm theme was very bright and light, while still maintaining the brown we are famous for | 12:56 |
| troy_s | contrast is a very important element. the palette is subject to some refinements though, the problem is tweaking _one_ colour cascades down. and the palette must work with the existing high vis icons. | 12:56 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 12:56 |
| troy_s | its a tricky juggling act. | 12:56 |
| Burgundavia | if there is one piece of feedback I have recieved almost universally from non-Ubuntu people is that our current backgrounds are too dark | 12:57 |
| troy_s | needless to say, you will probably be seeing some subtle palette variations soon, and a different lsplash. | 12:57 |
| Burgundavia | hence why I like how light the new background is | 12:57 |
| troy_s | Burgundavia personally -- i feel if we just let ubuntu be what it is we gain a certain degree of distinctive look. the dark dapper wallpaper had a certain mysterious quality to it... possibly related to the contrast between the tonality. | 12:58 |
| Burgundavia | so please: there is no need to change the login screen from what it was | 12:58 |
| Burgundavia | from a marketing perspective, it is great | 12:58 |
| Burgundavia | light, while clearly ours | 12:58 |
| Burgundavia | and it is the one piece we have never changed | 12:58 |
| troy_s | your points have been heard. again though, a good portion of the direction is out of a single persons hands. | 12:59 |
| troy_s | we shall see how things shape in the coming term. | 12:59 |
| kwwii | the best thing about edgy is that it is a test platform for edgy+1 :-) | 01:00 |
| kwwii | anyone have a link to the new wallpaper for ubuntu | 01:00 |
| Burgundavia | if I send an email to the artwork list, will somebody pass it through the spam filters? (my inbox is too busy to allow me to subscribe to the artwork list) | 01:00 |
| kwwii | Burgundavia: for your info, I am doing kubuntu artwork, so I am not 100% up to date with ubuntu | 01:00 |
| troy_s | well the problem currently burg | 01:01 |
| troy_s | is that we are trying to unify the look / build a visual harmony | 01:01 |
| troy_s | as of dapper, | 01:01 |
| troy_s | almost _every_ element is completely disparate | 01:01 |
| troy_s | there are three primary techniques used to achieve visual harmony | 01:01 |
| troy_s | and we need to at least give some of them a shot. | 01:02 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 01:03 |
| troy_s | the basic idea is to build a set of images that corresponds nicely with the hardest to change element -- the icons. | 01:03 |
| Burgundavia | I would build around the login screen, which has the advantage of being one of the lightest elements in the group | 01:04 |
| troy_s | as sab wants to keep those for the time, and i tend to agree with him | 01:04 |
| troy_s | well like i said, the palette is relative. | 01:04 |
| troy_s | it was far darker earlier on | 01:04 |
| Burgundavia | I get a lot of feedback about how dark the default theme is | 01:04 |
| troy_s | and has gradually gotten lighter. | 01:04 |
| Burgundavia | yes, it has | 01:04 |
| troy_s | needless to say, don't fret too much just yet. | 01:05 |
| troy_s | i would expect the oil/handcraft to stay | 01:06 |
| troy_s | but the averages will probably adjust. | 01:06 |
| troy_s | i would like to get them all back to rgb values, but we shall see what happens this weekend. | 01:06 |
| troy_s | and regarding the bluer tone | 01:07 |
| troy_s | that palette is taken from a professional designers palette sheet | 01:07 |
| troy_s | so it _does_ work, however, the 'shock' of ubuntu not being so monochromatic will probably lead to knee jerk reactions. | 01:07 |
| kwwii | I have had the same experience with kubuntu | 01:19 |
| troy_s | well it is one thing to be 'brown' tonally, another thing entirely to be monochromatic. | 01:19 |
| kwwii | exactly | 01:19 |
| troy_s | i would argue that the bulk of people's dissapointment with the brown was the monochromatic application. | 01:20 |
| kwwii | you cannot limit an artist to one color, or you will get one-color-boring ideas | 01:20 |
| troy_s | well... apple did ok with one colour that isn't even a bloody colour | 01:20 |
| troy_s | :) | 01:20 |
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| kwwii_ | night all | 01:50 |
| kwwii_ | time for bed | 01:50 |
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| Burgundavia | troy_s: yes, but never underestimate the marketing power of consistency | 02:12 |
| troy_s | Burgundavia which is exactly the point of the edgy cycle | 02:12 |
| Burgundavia | sorry? | 02:13 |
| troy_s | the real issue at stake is: what exactly is consistent in ubuntu | 02:13 |
| Burgundavia | ye | 02:13 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 02:13 |
| troy_s | and after hours of looking over the elements | 02:13 |
| troy_s | and what we can and cannot change in a single cycle | 02:13 |
| troy_s | we end up being bound to the high visibility elements -- like icons | 02:13 |
| Burgundavia | the consistency I am talking about the changing of the login screen | 02:13 |
| troy_s | that said, orange is out of the question, as the orange was intended originally as a highlight and was taken out of context a little. | 02:13 |
| troy_s | and accent | 02:14 |
| troy_s | the problem with the logon screen as it _currently_ is in dapper is quite easy: | 02:14 |
| troy_s | 1) it is generated, which is a far cry from human, organic, etc. | 02:14 |
| Burgundavia | generated? | 02:14 |
| troy_s | 2) it is a radial grad, which feels very mechanical. | 02:15 |
| troy_s | 3) the square elements in ubuntu need to be refined to match the more rounded feels of the icons, etc. | 02:15 |
| troy_s | 4) the palette is different from the icons by a hue factor. | 02:15 |
| troy_s | 5) if you keep the original, then you would need to keep _some_ motif, and unfortunately it has _none_ that relate to the rest of the look | 02:16 |
| troy_s | just a few points, and there are more. | 02:16 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jabra/install-docs-ubuntu_files/image032.jpg <-- you can make the elements square | 02:16 |
| Burgundavia | less square, rather | 02:16 |
| Burgundavia | but the glow is something I would keep | 02:16 |
| troy_s | the glow is still there. | 02:16 |
| troy_s | the primary issue is that the palette is completely all over the map for ubuntu | 02:17 |
| Burgundavia | right | 02:17 |
| troy_s | that is a long term problem, and one that most people react to when they say that they don't like brown. | 02:17 |
| Burgundavia | nothing I am saying is disagreeing with you | 02:17 |
| troy_s | which is a far generalistic issue. | 02:17 |
| Burgundavia | I saying one thing: "Keep the general look of the login screen, including palette and tone" | 02:17 |
| Burgundavia | how the rest of the artwork fits into that is something for the artwork types, not hte marketing ones | 02:18 |
| troy_s | the problem is that | 02:18 |
| troy_s | the icons don't match the dapper palette | 02:18 |
| troy_s | and the icons, as per sabdfl, aren't changing. | 02:18 |
| troy_s | rather | 02:18 |
| troy_s | the dapper gdm | 02:18 |
| troy_s | in fact, the gdm is about a contextually out of touch with the distribution as any portion. | 02:18 |
| troy_s | so if the proposed solution is to keep the gdm from dapper | 02:19 |
| troy_s | then we must retrofit _everything_ around that palette | 02:19 |
| troy_s | and the nonexistent motif | 02:19 |
| troy_s | which is entirely a problematic mission unto itself. | 02:19 |
| troy_s | there simply isn't any easy solution unfortunately. | 02:19 |
| troy_s | it is tricky from the bottom up | 02:19 |
| Burgundavia | right | 02:19 |
| Burgundavia | but the icon theme does not clash with the general theme of the dapper (and earlier) login screen | 02:20 |
| troy_s | generally, i am more of the gentle pulling and trying to establish a few motifs to build around. | 02:20 |
| Burgundavia | remember, we have not changed the login screen | 02:20 |
| troy_s | actually it does | 02:20 |
| troy_s | on about every level | 02:20 |
| troy_s | from palette to tones to motif | 02:20 |
| Burgundavia | motif? | 02:20 |
| troy_s | a reoccurring element. the gdm lacks one, the icons _sort_ of have one (the trademark curve) etc. | 02:21 |
| Burgundavia | right | 02:21 |
| troy_s | thematic harmony | 02:21 |
| troy_s | on a very subtle level. | 02:21 |
| Burgundavia | ok, fair enough | 02:22 |
| Burgundavia | however, the current edgy login screen looks *totally* different from the previous one | 02:22 |
| Burgundavia | this is totally unacceptable, from a marketing position | 02:22 |
| troy_s | well, totally isn't entirely correct. there is an underlying element below it that is identical to the original. | 02:22 |
| Burgundavia | if we are going to change the login screen, it must be iterative | 02:22 |
| troy_s | something _has_ to give | 02:22 |
| troy_s | something will break | 02:22 |
| Burgundavia | then break something else | 02:23 |
| troy_s | from an aesthetic standpoint, you can't keep the gdm AND try to integrate a new background AND keep aesthetic harmony | 02:23 |
| Burgundavia | the login screen is too important | 02:23 |
| troy_s | like i said, it isn't set in stone yet. | 02:23 |
| troy_s | nor even close | 02:23 |
| troy_s | ultimately, edgy might look identical to dapper | 02:23 |
| Burgundavia | sorry? | 02:24 |
| troy_s | sabdfl calls the shots. | 02:24 |
| troy_s | and from a marketing standpoint | 02:24 |
| Burgundavia | I understand that | 02:24 |
| troy_s | if you are going to issue from that vantage | 02:24 |
| troy_s | you know about the term life cycle correct? | 02:24 |
| Burgundavia | remember, I have been around Ubuntu since October 2004. I was at Mataro | 02:24 |
| troy_s | i am not questioning your dedication or otherwise. | 02:24 |
| troy_s | i am just saying that we need to discuss all of this and reconcile it further | 02:25 |
| troy_s | i would like to try and keep it as evolutionary feeling as possible | 02:25 |
| Burgundavia | no, I merely mentioning that I have been around awhiel and thus understand how sabdfl works | 02:25 |
| troy_s | right now, i think the issue at hand is: | 02:25 |
| troy_s | realizing that almost everyone agrees that aesthetic harmony is a bit of a priority. | 02:26 |
| troy_s | 2) change will always invoke issues. period. | 02:26 |
| Burgundavia | http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=718&slide=15 <-- this background is very nice | 02:26 |
| Burgundavia | is is also clearly in the same palette range as the login screen | 02:26 |
| troy_s | 3) no, its closer though. the problem is more that i don't think sabdfl likes the lighter tones. | 02:26 |
| troy_s | jmak did that one i believe | 02:27 |
| Burgundavia | try changing them lighter and see what happens | 02:27 |
| troy_s | well that's certainly on the agenda | 02:27 |
| troy_s | there _will_ be changes | 02:27 |
| troy_s | the real test is to sit with all of the elements jumbled in a pile and look at them | 02:27 |
| troy_s | they should all fit together like a puzzle | 02:27 |
| Burgundavia | well, I hear you talking a lot of the "agenda" but the only changes I see have gone in the other direction | 02:28 |
| troy_s | which is currently _far_ away from where dapper is. | 02:28 |
| Burgundavia | and it is already Sept 9th | 02:28 |
| troy_s | i don't mind if the art stays the way it is actually. this isn't a personal mandate by any stretch of the imagination. | 02:28 |
| Burgundavia | the way it is being dapper or the current edfgy stuff? | 02:28 |
| troy_s | well sabdfl has yet to weigh in on a quite a bit of the points. he is damn busy at the moment. | 02:29 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, you realize you have actually passed the artwork freeze? | 02:30 |
| Burgundavia | as that wqas Sept 7th | 02:31 |
| troy_s | um. | 02:31 |
| troy_s | yes. | 02:31 |
| Burgundavia | putting on my other hat of documentation team, | 02:31 |
| Burgundavia | you had better decided quicklyt | 02:31 |
| troy_s | might i also remind you that i am not the AiC. | 02:31 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 02:31 |
| troy_s | it isn't for me to decide. the best i can do is try to get responses out of sabdfl. | 02:31 |
| troy_s | and _that_ is quite a task. | 02:31 |
| troy_s | the rapport is increasing, but it takes a helluva lot of work and my time is very slim. | 02:32 |
| Burgundavia | sabdfl has a habit of liking to hcange the artwork very late in the cycle | 02:32 |
| Burgundavia | drives the documentation team nuts | 02:32 |
| troy_s | well... we tried to avoid that. | 02:32 |
| troy_s | and so far, we have been successful. | 02:32 |
| Burgundavia | they changed it for hoary 3 days before release | 02:32 |
| troy_s | notice how this discussion is coming up _now_ :) | 02:32 |
| troy_s | yes... ugly stuff. | 02:32 |
| troy_s | trying to get into a schedule deadline is quite a bit of work. | 02:33 |
| troy_s | having done this for a while (the creative end of things) this is a _very_ tricky situation on _so_ many new level.s | 02:33 |
| troy_s | i plan on trying to accomodate a plethora of requests tonite, and yours will be at the top of the pile. believe me. | 02:35 |
| troy_s | hopefully we can come to some sort of negotiated middle ground that works with the icons and the rest of the thematic elements of ubuntu. | 02:36 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 02:36 |
| troy_s | again, one of the problems of a distinct lack of design docs | 02:36 |
| troy_s | but luckily even the term ubuntu connotes a certain degree of aesthetic | 02:36 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 02:37 |
| Burgundavia | tbh, given we are already passed feature freeze, I think we should just leave the dapper artwork in place and work on non-default artwork | 02:37 |
| Burgundavia | the only thing I would chnage might be the desktop background, but I would want to be within monday or tuesday | 02:38 |
| troy_s | well... again, it will be sabdfl's call. not mine. i get pinched in this merely because i care about ubuntu's look and feel. | 02:38 |
| troy_s | you also put me in a darn tough spot because | 02:40 |
| troy_s | up to now, the most postive feedback from the forums, my private mail, the fridge, etc have all been about the new gdm look. | 02:40 |
| troy_s | laf. | 02:40 |
| troy_s | oops... i can't say laf anymore... lmao. | 02:40 |
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| Burgundavia | troy_s: is the login screen, splash and background available somewhere for me to link to as part of the UWN? | 05:52 |
| troy_s | sorry Burgundavia, i was afk | 06:11 |
| troy_s | You need a link to the images? Hrm... I think Frank was drafting a page on the wiki relevant to all of the elements. | 06:11 |
| Burgundavia | I kind of need it in about 3 hours, so I might do the images myself | 06:12 |
| troy_s | Eek. | 06:12 |
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| msikma | http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/usplash_rlsl_2.gif | 10:31 |
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| troy_s | great work sik | 10:37 |
| troy_s | just mailed you | 10:37 |
| msikma | Thanks, I just read it | 10:38 |
| msikma | I think that if moving the logo up instead of in the center, it might be neat to not use a purely round radial light for the background, but rather a slightly tilted spotlight | 10:39 |
| troy_s | sure try it. | 10:39 |
| troy_s | see if we can hit phi with the circle | 10:39 |
| troy_s | lighten the background to a nice shade | 10:39 |
| troy_s | and see how the changes work out. | 10:39 |
| msikma | I've got a pretty nice design now but the difficulty lies in making the dithering work right | 10:49 |
| msikma | the background is lighter now and the dithering is more apparent that way | 10:49 |
| msikma | http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/usplash_rlsl_3.gif | 10:50 |
| msikma | we just broke an important technical barrier for usplash and already I'm wishing we had 16m colors :) | 10:51 |
| msikma | http://thingmajig.org/tmp/usplash_plus/final/usplash_rlsl_4.gif | 10:57 |
| BHSPitLappy | night | 11:22 |
| BHSPitLappy | also, preeeeeetty. | 11:23 |
| BHSPitLappy | I like 3 a little better than 4. It doesn't have to be really dark | 11:24 |
| msikma | 4 is mostly about a subtle hue shift closer to brown | 11:24 |
| BHSPitLappy | true, but it also removes that saturated area that filled the middle of 3 | 11:26 |
| BHSPitLappy | all very pretty though... how are these getting made? | 11:26 |
| msikma | just photoshop | 11:30 |
| msikma | it has support for very basic animation | 11:30 |
| msikma | (depending on the state of the layers) | 11:30 |
| BHSPitLappy | wow, that's good photoshop | 11:34 |
| BHSPitLappy | although that's not very linux-purist-friendly ;P | 11:34 |
| Seveas | msikma, it moves a bit too fast imho | 11:37 |
| msikma | Perhaps, the movement speed can be determined later on anyway, when it's all in place in the new usplash code. | 11:38 |
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| PingunZ | Hey all | 11:48 |
| PingunZ | I need a favor, I'm making ubuntu splashes ( for apps like OOo, gimp, .. ). I need a .svg template, I'm not experienced enough with inkscape myself, so could anyone make a template for me ? | 11:49 |
| PingunZ | Atm I have this : http://pingunz.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=5&search=Splash | 11:50 |
| PingunZ | So basically, I need a background image .. maybe some effects on it and a template text | 11:51 |
| Burgundavia | PingunZ: sure, but be aware, ubuntu will not brand programs that heavily by default | 11:51 |
| PingunZ | Burgundavia: I know that the chance that they get included is really small but I could put it on gnome-look or whatever .. | 11:52 |
| PingunZ | See, I just want a complete splash serie .. | 11:52 |
| PingunZ | Burgundavia: Could you make one for me ? | 11:55 |
| Burgundavia | not currently, as it is almost 3am here and I am trying to get to sleep | 11:55 |
| PingunZ | Ok, good night | 11:57 |
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| PingunZ | troy_s: ping ! read up, could you make a splash-template for me ? | 12:12 |
| msikma | if you become active again, troy, maybe we could wrap up the new usplash. | 12:30 |
| msikma | I'm going afk | 12:30 |
| PingunZ | Yay, I found a nice splash background, it rocks !! | 12:40 |
| PingunZ | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39553675/ | 12:51 |
| PingunZ | I'm making one for gimp / openoffice and xara too | 12:52 |
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| PingunZ | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39528250/ | 01:13 |
| PingunZ | Made an opeoffice one too | 01:13 |
| effraie | maybe it where great in orange? | 01:19 |
| PingunZ | Easy to change .. I have it in .svg | 01:20 |
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| msikma | effraie: "maybe it where great in orange"? | 02:12 |
| effraie | yes? | 02:13 |
| effraie | do you want something? | 02:14 |
| msikma | Do you mean that PingunZ should make it orange? Because I totally did not understand what you said there. | 02:16 |
| effraie | yes, that was what i mean | 02:17 |
| msikma | Okay, I see | 02:18 |
| PingunZ | Thadam, gimp splash done too | 02:42 |
| PingunZ | ( was out for lunch ) | 02:42 |
| PingunZ | I'll see if I can make it orange effraie | 02:42 |
| PingunZ | shite, the gimp logo doesn't scale well | 02:43 |
| effraie | look here : http://ubunteros.free.fr/dotclear/images/oooubuntusplashorange.bmp | 02:45 |
| PingunZ | effraie: That kind of orange ? or that background ? | 02:47 |
| PingunZ | you could send me the background .. | 02:47 |
| effraie | no, i'cant... it's not mine. | 02:48 |
| effraie | but maybe you can contact the author? i found it on that blog | 02:48 |
| PingunZ | Oh, well I like my image more, but I could check how it looks in orange .. | 02:48 |
| PingunZ | http://zone13.digitalgrafis.com/files/intelmac_red_16001024_notxt.jpg | 02:49 |
| msikma | That background doesn't work well for the Ubuntu logo. | 03:17 |
| msikma | It blends in too much. | 03:17 |
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| coz_ | if you want.. take a look at some of my new wall paper posts ming/ =-=-= Start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork =-=-= Tasks at http://www.launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-art/+specs =-=-= IRC Logs at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ =-=-= | 03:20 |
| coz_ | * Topic for #ubuntu-artwork set by troy_s at Mon Sep 04 18:40:15 2006 | 03:20 |
| PingunZ | msikma: you like my splashes ? | 03:21 |
| coz_ | Sorry bad copy paste up there http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3462&cat=500&ppuser=44394 | 03:22 |
| msikma | I do, but you should make them all consistent with the Banshee splash you made. | 03:22 |
| msikma | E.g. that format, a nicely rendered version of its icon used twice. | 03:22 |
| msikma | I don't think that the designs are very "Ubuntu", though | 03:22 |
| msikma | (Not just because they don't use the typical Ubuntu color set) | 03:22 |
| PingunZ | msikma: You have a point there .. | 03:24 |
| PingunZ | They are more suse-like | 03:24 |
| msikma | indeed | 03:25 |
| msikma | I've never seen striped used like that in Ubuntu before | 03:25 |
| PingunZ | I was asking for a background like the striped here this morning | 03:26 |
| PingunZ | but nobody replied to me so I just grabbed one from google | 03:26 |
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| PingunZ | msikma: Could you make me a .svg template ? | 03:31 |
| msikma | svg template? | 03:31 |
| msikma | You mean a base to work with? | 03:31 |
| PingunZ | yup:) | 03:31 |
| PingunZ | I'm an Inkscape anti-hero :) | 03:32 |
| msikma | why would you want to use svg for this? They aren't scalable. | 03:32 |
| PingunZ | No, but I could easily scale them, and move/remove items | 03:32 |
| PingunZ | they are all based on the same .svg file | 03:32 |
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| troy_s | msikma -- sorry man... i was in bed. | 04:28 |
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| cbx33 | ARGH | 05:45 |
| cbx33 | this is ticking me off | 05:45 |
| PingunZ | What is ? | 05:45 |
| cbx33 | usplash | 05:45 |
| PingunZ | Are you making a theme for it or trying to get it to work ? | 05:46 |
| cbx33 | trying to get it to load the theme | 05:46 |
| cbx33 | I just keep getting the test screen | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | I know someone who has got it to work | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | I've made my .so file | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | I'm working on edubuntu | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | it sets up /etc/alternatives.... | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | I have replaced the /usr/lib/edubuntu-usplash.so with my new one | 05:47 |
| PingunZ | Hmm | 05:47 |
| PingunZ | ask se.veas | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | I've changes the symlink in /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so to point to that file | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | yeh, he's not around at the mo | 05:48 |
| PingunZ | He patched it .. | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | I know | 05:48 |
| PingunZ | !ping Seveas | 05:48 |
| Seveas | cbx33, update-initramfs -u | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | oooh thanky | 05:50 |
| cbx33 | Seveas I am a little concerned ;) | 05:50 |
| cbx33 | the symlinks point to each other on a default edubuntu install | 05:51 |
| cbx33 | p /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so points to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so | 05:51 |
| cbx33 | and visa versa | 05:51 |
| Seveas | cbx33, errr that's not good | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | yeh I know | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | circular resolutions ;) | 05:52 |
| Seveas | /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so should point somewhere else | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | whre should it point? | 05:52 |
| Seveas | usplash-artwork-edubuntu.so | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | well my artwork didn;t work :( | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | i just got a black screen | 05:53 |
| cbx33 | crap | 05:53 |
| cbx33 | I broke it | 05:53 |
| cbx33 | I must be mega stupid | 05:53 |
| cbx33 | does this mean I did it wrong Seveas ;) | 05:53 |
| cbx33 | why did it go wrong ? | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | Seveas it appeared to make the .so ok | 06:03 |
| Seveas | cbx33, tar up your theme and e-mail it | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | Seveas I used the kubuntu one | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | changed the images | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | and just make on it | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | would that work? | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | ogra said he did it that way | 06:04 |
| Seveas | depends on the images | 06:04 |
| Seveas | all same 256 color palette? | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | they are png 356 colours | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | 256 | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | sorry | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | yes | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | oh.... | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | possibly not the same pallete | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | crap | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | didn't know they had to all have the same pallete | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | do the throbbers have to have the same pallete as well? | 06:05 |
| Seveas | http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/resources/palettes/howto.html | 06:05 |
| Seveas | ys | 06:05 |
| Seveas | yes* | 06:05 |
| Seveas | all images must have the exact same pallette | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | ok would taht result in a black screen | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | and total system breakage ? | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 06:06 |
| Seveas | black screen is possible | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | it didn;t boot at all | 06:06 |
| Seveas | that shouldn't happen | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | ok | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | well I'll try the pallete thing | 06:06 |
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| cbx33 | ok I have the new images | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | gonna try building now | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | if not I'll mail to you so you can tell me what an idiot ive been ;) | 06:14 |
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| cbx33 | Seveas i have breakage | 06:21 |
| cbx33 | :( | 06:21 |
| cbx33 | I'm mailing you the images | 06:21 |
| cbx33 | the throbbers look odd but ignore that for now | 06:21 |
| Seveas | did you mail it yet? | 06:28 |
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| cbx33 | Seveas just doing it now | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | Seveas sent ! | 07:37 |
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| Seveas | cbx33, I'm not getting them | 08:03 |
| Seveas | cbx33, heh, the spamfilter caught them | 08:04 |
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| fschoep | Good evening everyone | 08:26 |
| cbx33 | hi fs | 08:27 |
| fschoep | Doing fine? | 08:27 |
| cbx33 | howaz you dude | 08:27 |
| fschoep | Fine, thanks | 08:28 |
| fschoep | Reading up on my mail now | 08:28 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 08:28 |
| cbx33 | good good | 08:28 |
| fschoep | troy_s: ping | 08:31 |
| troy_s | fschoep | 08:37 |
| troy_s | msikma ping | 08:37 |
| troy_s | evening to you perhaps | 08:37 |
| msikma | Hi | 08:37 |
| fschoep | Hello | 08:37 |
| troy_s | how are you doing fschoep | 08:37 |
| fschoep | Fine thanks | 08:37 |
| fschoep | You? | 08:37 |
| troy_s | sorry msikma, i had to go to sleep over here. | 08:37 |
| troy_s | i wasn't ignoring you. | 08:38 |
| troy_s | good thanks fschoep | 08:38 |
| msikma | That's okay | 08:38 |
| msikma | (didn't think you were) | 08:38 |
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| kwwii | re | 08:56 |
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| troy_s | ping msikma | 11:25 |
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