[05:00] <johnlittle> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/try_ubuntu
[05:00] <lophyte> hey johnlittle
[05:00] <johnlittle> yo
[05:02] <lophyte> how goes?
[05:03] <johnlittle> not bad..you?
[05:03] <lophyte> pretty good... we had an ubuntu toronto meet today.. about 12 people showed
[05:03] <lophyte> we're working on a marketing project for SFD right now.. but after that I'll bring up the video project again
[05:05] <johnlittle> 12 people is a pretty good start
[05:06] <lophyte> indeed
[05:08] <lophyte> i've got an old Dell machine here without an ethernet card.. I have no clue how to open it
[05:24] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: ready to work on the UWN?
[05:28] <johnlittle> burgundavia : sure. whats going on?
[05:30] <Burgundavia> gobbied up\
[05:30] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13
[05:34] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: I was thinking about the Kubuntu specific information
[05:34] <Burgundavia> I think I want to split it out and not have a distro specific section
[05:34] <Burgundavia> thoughts?
[05:34] <Burgundavia> for any distro
[05:40] <johnlittle> burgundavia: split it out how?
[05:40] <Burgundavia> like I am doing
[05:41] <johnlittle> It's much more flexible that way
[05:42] <johnlittle> let the weeks news dictate the structure instead of trying to force the news into a format
[05:42] <Burgundavia> yep
[05:55] <johnlittle> burgundavia: got a link for the edgy artwork?
[05:58] <Burgundavia> asked in artwokr for one
[05:58] <Burgundavia> I can create one
[06:09] <johnlittle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1475232&postcount=18
[06:30] <johnlittle> burgundavia: ping
[06:30] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: pong
[06:31] <johnlittle> see my question in gobbhy chat?
[06:32] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:53] <johnlittle> burgundavia: Gobby ping
[08:22] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: gobby down
[08:27] <Burgundavia> johnlittle: back in the wiki
[10:01] <Burgundavia> anybody awake?
[10:08] <popey> define $anybody
[10:10] <Burgundavia> popey: what to help me proofread UWN?
[10:10] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13
[10:12] <popey> sure
[10:13] <Burgundavia> thanks
[10:13] <popey> is "the default init for edgy" going to mean much to some people? Should it briefly state what init is and why it's replaced?
[10:13] <popey> or is that too much information?
[10:13] <Burgundavia> you can add a sentence about what init is
[10:19] <popey> has the new ubuntu-sounds been mentioned in a past UWN?
[10:20] <Burgundavia> nope
[10:20] <Burgundavia> add that under the edgy section
[10:25] <Burgundavia> popey: ping me when you are done editing
[10:25] <popey> ok
[10:27] <popey> Burgundavia: done
[10:27] <Burgundavia> cheers
[10:27] <Burgundavia> ompaul: morning
[10:28] <Burgundavia> ompaul: very sorry, but I had to yank your feature of the week. It was very techny and not very "featurey"
[10:28] <ompaul> Good morning - my lag is always bad for the first few seconds
[10:29] <ompaul> no proble
[10:29] <ompaul> m
[10:29] <Burgundavia> can you give the UWN a once over for typos, etc.?
[10:29] <ompaul> yap
[10:29] <ompaul> yeap even
[10:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> Issue # for the week of Sept 3 <- should that # be something?
[10:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> and 'in this issue' is empty....
[10:36] <ompaul> it could do with: ||<tablestyle="float:right; font-size: 0.9em; width:40%; background:#F1F1ED; margin: 0 0 1em 1em;" style="padding:0.5em;">'''Contents'''[[BR] ] [[TableOfContents] ] ||
[10:37] <ompaul> some kind of termination of a line after: These two packages are the upstart equivalent of "initscripts"
[10:38] <ompaul> forbes lies: Ubuntu works in 22 languages,
[10:39] <ompaul> the forbes quote should be abandoned, it is so badly written: Ubuntu now has 4 million users, half of which are governments
[10:40] <ompaul> there are 2 billion governments on planet earth .. you have a one in three chance of being a .gov ;-)
[10:40] <Burgundavia> ompaul: umm, where did you those numbers/information from?
[10:41] <ompaul> The FSF.hu Foundation and the Hungarian Ubuntu Community
[10:41] <ompaul> woops in the press
[10:41] <ompaul> that last one, perhaps should read: The FSF Foundation in Hungry (fsf.hu) and the ...
[10:42] <ompaul> that is from the upcomming events
[10:42] <ompaul> with one m
[10:42] <ompaul> :)
[10:42] <Burgundavia> sorry?
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, say it again...i dont get it ;)
[10:43] <ompaul> okay: forbes info is from, in the press
[10:44] <ompaul> the upcoming events part, says: The FSF.hu Foundation and the Hungarian Ubuntu Community, I think it would be better as: The FSF Foundation in Hungry (fsf.hu) and the Hungarian Ubuntu Community
[10:44] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:44] <Burgundavia> edit as you please
[10:44] <ompaul> it just looks better
[10:45] <ompaul> I thought you were editing :)
[10:46] <ompaul> shall I add the menu?
[10:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone else that contributes <- want a capital A to start with
[10:50] <ompaul> Kamping_Kaiser, done
[10:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> wd
[10:52] <elkbuntu> hmm i dont get a mention in the press section? -- joke :P
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> aw, bl elkbuntu :(
[10:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[10:54] <ompaul> elkbuntu, smh.com.au what was the actual url again please :)
[10:54] <elkbuntu> http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/linux-wins-over-new-fans/2006/09/04/1157222061911.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
[10:55] <ompaul> pci bus went for an overheated chip style walk
[10:55] <elkbuntu> awww
[10:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> ouch
[10:56] <elkbuntu> good excuse to buy a new machine?
[10:59] <ompaul> I have sevearl I had to adjust the function of one
[11:00] <elkbuntu> you've been around seveas too long
[11:00] <elkbuntu> you're now incorporating his nick into your typos
[11:02] <ompaul> haha
[11:06] <ompaul> Burgundavia, I would like to take those figures out of the forbes item
[11:07] <ompaul> I would like to leave it to be just the last part
[11:07] <ompaul> I would like to leave in the fedora command and the last line so it would look like this:
[11:08] <ompaul> "After its public release in October 2004, Ubuntu quickly deposed Red Hat's Fedora as the most popular version of Linux on DistroWatch, a Web site that caters to Linux users. ... New users rave about the simple user interface, which has gained recent converts in a couple of well-known bloggers who switched from Apple Computer's OS X."
[11:08] <Burgundavia> except all the facts are wrong
[11:08] <Burgundavia> I would rather leavce the quote and then put underneath that:
[11:09] <Burgundavia> then say: closer to 7 million
[11:09] <Burgundavia> deposed Mandriva
[11:09] <Burgundavia> 30+ languages
[11:09] <ompaul> and is it not 95 langauges
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> wow. thats tottaly different
[11:09] <Burgundavia> I have no idea, but rosetta can tell you
[11:10] <ompaul> rosetta front and centre please :)
[11:10] <Burgundavia> just a sec
[11:10] <ompaul> okay I will put that in there
[11:10] <Burgundavia> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+translations
[11:11] <Burgundavia> hmm, coverage kind of sucks
[11:11] <elkbuntu> sort it by status and it looks better
[11:12] <Burgundavia> looking at that
[11:12] <elkbuntu> cant see it reflected in the url though :-/
[11:12] <Burgundavia> yes, the problem with ajax
[11:12] <Burgundavia> I would say 30+{
[11:12] <ompaul> okay
[11:15] <ompaul> Burgundavia, this text okay?
[11:15] <ompaul> However these facts are in need of some revision, firstly the install base is currently suggested to be in the region of 7 million, it deposed Mandriva, and it works in over thirty languages, the current state of translation can be seen here.
[11:15] <ompaul> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+translations  Click on status, for a better view.
[11:15] <ompaul> here:
[11:17] <ompaul> saved anyone else want to take a shot at it?
[11:17] <ompaul> I never took out in this issue
[11:17] <ompaul> just a sec
[11:18] <ompaul> with the table on the right there is no need for in this issue
[11:19] <Burgundavia> Better: While we appluad Forbes for covering Free Software, we thought we might correct a few of their facts. Ubuntu is installed on somewhere between 6 and 7 million computers (the exact number is hard to tell) in a great many languages, about 30 of which are fairly complete and the reining champion on Distrowatch was Mandrake (later Mandriva) not Red Hat or Fedora.
[11:22] <ompaul> done
[11:22] <ompaul> right I am going to so some alterations to this machine to try and get it back to a point where it is more useful to me ;-)
[11:26] <Burgundavia> ompaul: please add edit summaries
[11:26] <Burgundavia> or I will shot you
[11:26] <ompaul> where?
[11:26] <ompaul> ahh
[11:26] <ompaul> okay
[11:26] <ompaul> it is a bit late now
[11:26] <Burgundavia> no, but in th efuture
[11:27] <ompaul> could we have a red box around that to bring ones eye to it? (and that is serious)
[11:27] <Burgundavia> there is a switch you can turn on that forces people to fill it out
[11:28] <ompaul> hit is
[11:28] <ompaul> it
[11:29] <ompaul> seriously hit it
[11:29] <Burgundavia> not my call
[11:29] <ompaul> no point in having the tools for best practice is your not going to follow it
[11:29] <ompaul> :)
[11:29] <Burgundavia> ok, I am going to send out the weekly news
[11:30] <Burgundavia> new format, however: only the TOC is going out
[11:30] <Burgundavia> and a short summary
[11:30] <Burgundavia> thoughts?
[11:31] <ompaul> fine
[11:31] <ompaul> as long as the url is there :)
[11:33] <Burgundavia> that also means we can continue to tweak it
[11:33] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: to make up for forgetting you, I am going to mention your interview in the summary
[11:36] <elkbuntu> :)
[11:42] <Burgundavia> ok, text to review
[11:43] <Burgundavia> paste alert
[11:43] <Burgundavia> Welcome to this weeks Ubuntu Weekly News, covering the happenings and events in the Ubuntu community during September 3rd through 10th. In this issue, we cover Scott James Remnant's upstart going live, Edgy getting GNOME 2.16, Melissa Draper's interview with the Sydney Morning Herald in Australia and much more. Read on at
[11:43] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue13
[11:43] <Burgundavia> should I add a section about us trying out this new format?
[11:45] <Burgundavia> ompaul, elkbuntu: ^
[11:46] <elkbuntu> yeah, people will be wondering
[11:50] <Burgundavia> I need to play with the template
[11:50] <Burgundavia> can I get feedback on the text of the announcement before I send?
[11:54] <elkbuntu> sounds good but then i could be biased here ;)
[11:54] <Burgundavia> right
[11:54] <Burgundavia> ok, I will send
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol elkbuntu
[12:18] <Burgundavia> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2006-September/000053.html
[12:18] <Burgundavia> we are done this week
[12:18] <Burgundavia> please keep cleaning up the typos
[12:18] <Burgundavia> I am going to sleep
[12:19] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: would you mind editing the template to reflect this weeks layout?
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> shes away atm.
[12:21] <Burgundavia> you can do it to
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'll tell her when shes back :)
[12:23] <Burgundavia> sure
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[12:36] <elkbuntu> edit the template, as in put in the contents box?
[12:39] <ompaul> I think we should then make versions 15 16 and 17 include the "forward looking information about those days"
[12:39] <ompaul> s/days/editions
[12:41] <ompaul> so if there is an event 3 three weeks away we could have a note about it, and we could google it to see if the info got better than the previous releases
[12:42] <ompaul> i.e. so if you wanted to talk about an event on New Years day you might do monthly Sept Oct Nov and weeks 1 3 4 Dec and an event wrap up in jan
[07:21] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: you around?
[11:34] <poningru> how come that ubuntu christian thing hasnt been shutdown yet?