[12:00] <PhantasyHawk> Sanne: Starting 915resolution: Panel id function not supported
[12:00] <PhantasyHawk> *** Your 915resolution was not automatically configured! ***
[12:00] <PhantasyHawk> Please read /usr/share/doc/915resolution/README.Debian then define
[12:00] <PhantasyHawk> MODE, XRESO, and YRESO manually in /etc/default/915resolution or install 'vbetoo l'.
[12:00] <PhantasyHawk> invoke-rc.d: initscript 915resolution, action "start" failed.
[12:01] <whazilla_> i finally translated right mooky http://rafb.net/paste/results/KaOirT53.html   scroll down till after the numbers
[12:01] <erUSUL> Nebular: is a capital I like in Italy not an l like in link 'cpio --extract -I initrd.img'
[12:01] <smoked1> lupine_85: Removing it won't effect my ability to install upgrades and such?
[12:01] <stefg> ladydoor: gnomebaker has its difficulties in transcoding... consider installing k3b (even if on gnome) to do jobs like that
[12:01] <erUSUL> !paste > PhantasyHawk
[12:02] <whazilla_> anybody about my configuration stuff ?
[12:02] <nozorro> Vegeta: ? i need the output of 'ps aux' -- you did something wrong there
[12:02] <ladydoor> stefg: sweet. can you recommend a program with a good console interface? i was trying cdw but it kept segfaulting
[12:03] <Vegeta> nozorro: What do you mean? Then how do I get the output?
[12:03] <tronic> there was a package to get all the basic commands for instance 'make' what was it called
[12:03] <whazilla_> :$
[12:03] <mooky> make is automake
[12:03] <foo> mooky: The bus speed is 800mhz if that questions was fo rme.
[12:03] <mcphail> tronic: build-essential
[12:03] <lupine_85> tronic: basic development tools? build-essential
[12:03] <nozorro> Vegeta: in a terminal, type the command i gave. does it give you the output beginning with 'ERROR'
[12:03] <foo> question was for me*
[12:03] <smoked1> Should I also remove "evolution-dataserver"
[12:03] <smoked1> ?
[12:03] <tronic> thats it!!!!!!
[12:03] <tronic> ty ty ty
[12:03] <Ademan> in bash is there a command to determine if a particular file exists?
[12:04] <foo> Ademan: file /some/file
[12:04] <nozorro> Vegeta: ps aux
[12:04] <ladydoor> Ademan: or less /some/file
[12:04] <mcphail> Ademan: [ -f file ] 
[12:04] <Vegeta> nozorro: I think I misunderstood at the start
[12:04] <mooky> foo: yes, but it means how much throughput, how loaded the system is, how busy your disk is, how fragmented your disk is, etc etc
[12:04] <ladydoor> Ademan: *i mean ls
[12:04] <Sanne> PhantasyHawk: hmmm, dunno if I can help further, since I don't use this hardware. I hope there are others who use the i915Driver and can help. Other than that, just try what it's telling you.
[12:04] <mooky> all factors
[12:04] <mooky> hard to tell
[12:04] <whazilla_> mooky seen the englisch translation ?
[12:04] <Ademan> thanks
[12:04] <lupine_85> smoked1: it "may" become a problem when upgrading to edgy... to be safe, reinstall ubuntu-desktop before doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:04] <Vegeta> I litteraly wrote "ps aux  -> ...txt"
[12:04] <lupine_85> no idea whether evolution-dataserver is safe to remove or not
[12:04] <smoked1> ok I will, What about evolution data server?
[12:05] <lupine_85> !evolution-dataserve
[12:05] <lupine_85> !evolution-dataserver
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution-dataserve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution-dataserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <stefg> ladydoor: umphh... transcoding on the console... this would probably involve mpg321 to write .wav-files first and then mkisofs to get an audio-cd-image out of that, which is then burned with cdrecord. But although i use the conole fairly often, i've never tried _that_ without GUI :-)
[12:05] <smoked1> !evolution-dataserver
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution-dataserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <smoked1> \!evolution-dataserver
[12:05] <whazilla_> i finally translated right mooky http://rafb.net/paste/results/KaOirT53.html   scroll down till after the numbers   .............. somebody this config error stresses me
[12:05] <Vegeta> nozorro: Here is a new link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23025
[12:05] <lupine_85> hmm
[12:05] <nozorro> Vegeta: ok let me see
[12:05] <PhantasyHawk> Sanne and Jack: Thanks for your help, I'll do what I can - hopefully I can get this worked out tonight because its keeping me from watching my 20gig movie repository
[12:05] <ladydoor> stefg: actually, oggdec (ogg-decode) can create wav files from ogg
[12:05] <antiPSX> where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local in ubuntu
[12:06] <lupine_85> !evolution
[12:06] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[12:06] <lupine_85> smoked1: presumably, it'll break ^ that ^
[12:06] <ladydoor> stefg: i was actually asking about a frontend, along the lines of cdw but without the segfaults
[12:06] <smoked1> hmm, ok
[12:06] <lupine_85> I guess you can always reinstall it if it breaks anything else
[12:07] <ladydoor> can anybody recommend a cd recording program with a decent console ui other than cdw?
[12:07] <Sanne> PhantasyHawk: good luck :) You may also try to search in the forums, chances are somebody else also had your problem and maybe found a solution.
[12:07] <lupine_85> (data and config files are generally left untouched)
[12:07] <LightTitan> When I run wine I get this error. Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". I was told the problem
[12:07] <nashife> I'm trying to get sound to work in wine, and in #winehq, they said to ask in #ubuntu how to get alsa_oss working in ubuntu because they say I need it in order to have sound in wine.... can someone help?
[12:07] <foo> mooky: we just defragg'd, IDE, system is doing nothing but the dd. I estimate 30 min max
[12:07] <mooky> LightTitan: is this on x86_^4
[12:07] <mooky> x86_64
[12:07] <whazilla_> i finally translated right mooky http://rafb.net/paste/results/KaOirT53.html   scroll down till after the numbers   .............. somebody this config error stresses me
[12:07] <mooky> foo: then why did you ask how long it would take
[12:07] <ladydoor> stefg: it's just that i really hate trying to use/emulate the mouse (mine doesn't work, and ratpoison's rat-warping gets kind of old when you have to use it a lot), and it was irritating me enough to use gnomebaker
[12:07] <mooky> if you believe it only takes 30 minutes
[12:07] <LightTitan> When I run wine I get this error. Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". I was told the problem is my graphics driver is not installed correctly. I need someone who knows alot about NVidia... cause I can never get it running.
[12:07] <stefg> ladydoor: bottom line is: there's no integrated suite for the CLI that i know of, everything is done in small steps (the unix way)... i heard something like 'bashburn' once, a script to control mkisofs and cdrecord
[12:08] <foo> mooky: uh, because I don't know.
[12:08] <LightTitan> mooky, how do I check. I beleive it is x86
[12:08] <foo> mooky: I said at most.. I read something online. Not too sure, though.
[12:08] <mooky> so what are you basing your estimate of 30 minutes on ?
[12:08] <erUSUL> !nvidia
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <mooky> LightTitan: you don't know if your running x86 or x86_64  ?
[12:08] <foo> mooky: Some post online. Not too sure
[12:08] <lupine_85> LightTitan: uname -r will tell you
[12:08] <LightTitan> mooky, oh wait, I see what you meant, no this is not 64
[12:08] <whazilla_> on the bullet in my gun mooky
[12:08] <mooky> foo: do an iostat
[12:08] <ladydoor> stefg: well...that's unfortunate. odd that there are programs to go the other way but none other than cdw to go in that direction
[12:08] <lupine_85> as for glx.. do you have "LoadModule glx" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:08] <mooky> that will give you an idea of your throughput
[12:09] <Sanne> nashife: I have sound in wine without alsa-oss. My sound server is disabled, and I just set sound output to alsa in winecfg.
[12:09] <LightTitan> mooky, 2.6.15-26-686
[12:09] <nashife> Sanne: what do you mean by "sound server is disabled" how do I do that?
[12:09] <nashife> does that mean sound will not work outside of wine?
[12:09] <lupine_85> Erm, rather Load "glx" in section "Module", rather
[12:09] <nozorro> Vegeta: well first off you didn't tell me you're running kde there. -- anyway there doesn't seem to be any offending process. we can try something different now ...
[12:09] <[fields] > !firewire
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firewire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Sanne> nashife: what desktop are you using (gnome, kde, xfce...)?
[12:09] <mookid> I can't get amarok to play mp3's.. it just skips over every track without playing
[12:09] <nashife> Sanne: gnome
[12:09] <foo> mooky: bah, no iostat it seems. I have vmstat, though
[12:10] <mooky> vmstat won't help
[12:10] <stefg> ladydoor: http://bashburn.sourceforge.net/
[12:10] <mooky> download and install sysstat
[12:10] <mooky> and use iostat
[12:10] <ladydoor> stefg: hmmm. sweet
[12:10] <tronic> how do i tell what name my system is for instance 'breezy' uname -r doesn't show that
[12:11] <Vegeta> nozorro: Sorry I didn't even think about that. But what do you want to try now?
[12:11] <jrib> tronic: lsb_release -a
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Can anyone name a good gnome download manager
[12:11] <lupine_85> tronic: /etc/hostname
[12:11] <Sanne> nashife: gnome uses the esd sound server. First you can try to set sound out out to esd in winecfg, if available. If not, you should have some multimedia control app (I'm using kde, so I can't guide you) where you can try to disable esd and set sound in winecfg to alsa.
[12:11] <nozorro> Vegeta: do this in a terminal:  'sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock' --  then try starting synaptic again
[12:11] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: wget? ;)
[12:11] <stefg> !info gwget
[12:11] <ubotu> gwget: GNOME front-end for wget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 189 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[12:11] <lupine_85> wget++
[12:12] <tronic> thanks lupine
im unsure how to relaunch an incomplete download with it
[12:12] <tronic> what was the name of that general package again
[12:12] <tronic> aargh
[12:12] <lupine_85> wget -c ;)
[12:12] <mooky> its not a general package
[12:12] <lupine_85> build-essential
[12:12] <mooky> automake is the real name for "make"
[12:12] <Vegeta> nozorro: Still the same error.
[12:12] <lupine_85> ^meta package ^
[12:12] <tronic> ty lupine
[12:12] <LightTitan> anybody know Nvidia driver installation really well.... because i am having a really hard time getting mine to work.
[12:12] <whazilla_> how do i fix  when apt-get -f install don't work ?
 any gui frontends to this
[12:12] <mooky> LightTitan: what part is failing
[12:12] <lupine_85> gwget :)
[12:12] <lupine_85> ^ ^
[12:12] <nashife> Sanne: so, probably the problem is that linux is using one sound server, and wine is trying to use something else? (I'm trying to understand the concept) I'll try what you suggest
[12:12] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[12:12] <lupine_85> never used it though
[12:13] <LightTitan> when I try running a game in wine I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:13] <lupine_85> nashife: if you run winecfg, I think that it has an option to allow you to change the sound server it uses
[12:13] <nozorro> Vegeta: what was the wording of the error again?
[12:13] <lupine_85> (esd is the gnome default)
[12:13] <mooky> errrr what are you running in wine ?
[12:13] <mooky> windows?
[12:13] <LightTitan> lol no... World of Warcaft
[12:13] <lupine_85> ...?
[12:13] <sm> half way through dist upgrading to edgy, my root filesystem has become read-only. I fear problems if I reboot now, what's the best next step ?
[12:13] <mooky> isn't WOW beta
[12:13] <mooky> in wine ?
[12:13] <Sanne> nashife: that may be the problem. Some apps can't use the sound servers, but need to use alsa directly. That is only possible if no other app is using the sound device. That's why you might have to disable esd.
[12:14] <lupine_85> sm: ubuntu+1
[12:14] <LightTitan> I suppose so, but i have had it running in wine before.... awhile back.
[12:14] <lupine_85> as long as /tmp and /var aren't ro, you should be OK
[12:14] <sm> thx
[12:14] <lupine_85> LightTitan: do you get acceleration everywhere else?
[12:14] <stefg> sm: does dmesg show filesystem panics?
[12:14] <Vegeta> nozorro: 2 sec and I'll bring it back again
[12:14] <whazilla_> how do i fix  when apt-get -f install don't work ?
[12:14] <nozorro> Vegeta: ok
[12:15] <LightTitan> lupine_85... let me check... I will go try my screensavers
[12:15] <Vegeta> nozorro: Here it is: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:15] <mooky> LightTitan: just try glxgears
[12:15] <mooky> simple test
[12:15] <stefg> whazilla_: you've got to find out which package is the sick one and apt-get remove it
 looks pretty good although im reading man wget ... Maybe I'll prefer it
[12:15] <sm> stefg: just this: EXT3-fs error (device hdc6): ext3_add_entry: bad entry in directory #611157
[12:16] <LightTitan> no... nothing with acceleration is working
[12:16] <whazilla_> stefg quite a few
[12:16] <lupine_85> sm: you want to run fsck quite badly then
[12:16] <lupine_85> but not on a mounted fs
[12:16] <vdepizzol> How can I install Synfig (http://www.synfig.com/download/)?
[12:16] <mcphail> lupine_85: glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[12:16] <nozorro> Vegeta: well then that's what we have to do now (in terminal): 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:16] <Sanne> nashife: It's confusing, I'll try to elaborate: sound servers (arts, esd, jack) run on top of the sound driver (alsa or oss) to make it possible that more than one app can use the sound device.
[12:16] <whazilla_> i finally translated right mooky http://rafb.net/paste/results/KaOirT53.html   scroll down till after the numbers   .............. somebody this config error stresses me
[12:16] <lupine_85> mcphail: Warrning: unknown parameter: -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[12:16] <sm> so I guess I should reboot, single user mode, fsck, resume dist-upgrade
[12:16] <lupine_85> I think it's an ATI thing TBH
[12:17] <LightTitan> lupine_85 no acceleration is not working.
[12:17] <lupine_85> sm: reboot into live CD if you have it
 looks like i can download an entire website with it =) nice one!
[12:17] <lupine_85> LightTitan: ok can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:17] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: indeed you can :p
[12:17] <stefg> sm: uhoh... bad timing for a broken filesystem... it requires and fsck, which can only be done on the root fs when rebooting in recovery mode
[12:17] <LightTitan> lupine_85 I will try
[12:17] <azathoth> glxgears -printfps
[12:17] <lupine_85> you can also feed it authentication data, make it use your firefox xookies... etc
[12:17] <LightTitan> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:17] <azathoth> glxgears -printfps <- shows fps in glxgears
[12:17] <nashife> Sanne: thanks for explaining. everyone keeps saying "go google it" or rtfm... or they send me to some other channel
 would have been handy some months ago....I love cli more and more each day
[12:17] <aoupi> I'd like to mount 2 devices into the same directory, merging them. Can I do that?
[12:18] <azathoth> bah
[12:18] <lupine_85> aoupi: FUSE
[12:18] <mooky> aoupi: no
[12:18] <lupine_85> I believe
[12:18] <aoupi> lupine_85: I'll have a look, thanks
[12:18] <Sanne> nashife: heh they're just lazy :). At least now you have some more pointers on what to search :)
[12:18] <lupine_85> I  know it is do-able, but probably more faffing than you'd want
[12:18] <nashife> Sanne: thank you
[12:18] <Vegeta> nozorro: Damn that's it!!! It's working now.. :D Thanks you SO much for your help. And the same goes for w30 for also trying to help! :)
[12:19] <Sanne> nashife: you're welcome (and if you get stuck, don't hesitate to ask more questions) :)
[12:19] <nozorro> Vegeta: in the future, remember that:
[12:19] <lupine_85> aoupi: no complaints about unknown parameters, but no FPS count either...
[12:19] <LightTitan> lupine_85 here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23027
[12:19] <HastaRuh> yo ubuntu
[12:19] <nozorro> Vegeta: a) you can only have one package handling app running at the same time ...
 the part that i find difficult is narrowing down the exact url for wget there is not a lot of info when you're used to clicking it
[12:19] <sm> ok, guess it's a reboot.. wish me luck! thanks all
[12:19] <lupine_85> LightTitan: you're using the nv driver
[12:20] <mcphail> lupine_85: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[12:20] <stefg> Sm: apt-get -f install should be your friend
[12:20] <nozorro> Vegeta: b) if it crashes, try deleting the lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock (using sudo)
[12:20] <seriouslycgi> hi im wondering if anyone can spare some knowledge to help with setting my resolution higher on my ubuntu box
[12:20] <lupine_85> install linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx
[12:20] <Vegeta> nozorro: Ok. I also had 1 running. It's that the installation process freezed,
[12:20] <lupine_85> then change "nv" to "nvidia"
[12:20] <LightTitan> lupine_85 and that is why I can not get acceleration? But I have tried chaning that to nvidia and it will not do startx then.
[12:20] <mooky> seriouslycgi: there is a wiki page called fixresolution that can help
[12:20] <mooky> although it has not worked for me
[12:20] <seriouslycgi> thanks mooky
[12:20] <lupine_85> LightTitan: the drivers need installing first... ;) do ^ that ^
[12:20] <sm> stefg: yes, after the fs is writable again
[12:20] <lupine_85> then restart X (ctrl + alt + backspace) and you should get the nVidia logo
[12:21] <lupine_85> mcphail: no joy
[12:21] <treitter> is there a metapackage for all the *-dbg packages?
[12:21] <mcphail> lupine_85: ok - glxgears -printfps
[12:21] <lupine_85> ^ ... ^
[12:21] <treitter> (or at least an easy way to install the *-dbg packages for all the packages you already have installed?)
[12:22] <Nebular> erUSUL:  worked, thanks
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> it seems that everyone here believes Nvidia cards are better for linux/ubuntu is this the case ??
[12:22] <LightTitan> lupine_85..... :(    I have installed the drivers (at least I think that is what I did) when i went to synaptic and searched for nvidia and installed nvidia-glx.... is that not what you are talking about?
[12:22] <lupine_85> anyone want to suggest glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark again? ;)
[12:22] <lupine_85> LightTitan: you also need linux-restricted-modules installing
[12:22] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: definitely
[12:22] <mcphail> lupine_85: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[12:22] <ANTDx1> Guys I need some help with my Ubuntu installation
[12:22] <lupine_85> the ATI drivers are a PoS
[12:22] <mcphail> :)
[12:22] <lupine_85> lol
[12:23] <lupine_85> I think it's an ATI version of the tool with that functionality
[12:23] <LightTitan> lupine_85, ok how do I do that
[12:23] <Jowi> treitter: why do you need one? apt-get install *-dbg should do the job (apt-get remove for the reverse)
[12:23] <stefg> whazilla_: sudo apt-get remove cman fence gulm rgmanager clvm redaht-cluster-suite system-config-cluster
 any particular value card you recommend i have a agp board
[12:23] <lupine_85> LightTitan: go to synaptic (or whatever) and look for linux-restricted-modules
[12:23] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: I've got a GeFore 5500 but I've no idea what's current
[12:23] <whazilla> thkx stefg
 sounds good to me :)
[12:24] <ANTDx1> When I get to step 5, I try to use the top option and try to resize my Windows partition.  However, the partitioner always says that it failed to create enough free space for installation
[12:24] <LightTitan> lupine_85 I think I found it... I am installing it now. What do I do to test it after it installs?
[12:24] <lupine_85> ANTDx1: defrag it
[12:24] <ANTDx1> I've already defragged about 5 times
[12:24] <lupine_85> enough free space? is your zswap file at the end of the drive?
[12:24] <ANTDx1> The Windows defragger shows a big section of free space.
[12:24] <Sanne> Paddy_EIRE: I heard the same, that Nvidia would be better in providing linux drivers with good features. I always had nvidia cards under linux so I can't compare. I always liked the performance.
[12:24] <ANTDx1> I don't know what a zswap file is.
[12:24] <lupine_85> LightTitan: change "nv" to "nvidia" and restart X :)
[12:24] <lupine_85> erm, swap :)
[12:25] <LightTitan> lupine_85 ok... will do.
[12:25] <ANTDx1> i don't really know much about that either.  I thought it was at the front of the drive, but I don't know.
[12:25] <lupine_85> (the defrag program can't move it, and if it's at the end of the drive it'll stop the resize)
[12:25] <ANTDx1> Is there a way around that?
[12:25] <lupine_85> how much RAM do you have?
[12:25] <ANTDx1> 1.25 GB
[12:25] <lupine_85> ok, temporarily disable the swapfile completely in Windows
[12:25] <lupine_85> defrag again
[12:25] <lupine_85> then reboot and do the linux install
[12:26] <ANTDx1> How do I disable the swapfile?
 will it be a pain to install nvidia on my current setup when i remove my ati card ??
[12:26] <lupine_85> Control Panel->System->(one of the tabs)->Virtual Memory
[12:26] <whazilla> stefg can i pm ?
[12:26] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: no... nvidia just works, it's a on-liner
[12:26] <lupine_85> Paddy_EIRE: not really. Just edit the xorg.conf appropriately before you shut down to replace the card
[12:26] <ANTDx1> ok thanks
 i will have you guys to help me with that when the time comes :)
[12:27] <stefg> whazilla: so what happened?
[12:27] <lupine_85> :)
[12:27] <whazilla> all removed except cman
[12:27] <whazilla> pastebin ?
[12:28] <treitter> Jowi: that'll add a bunch of packages on my system beyond the debugging ones, right?
[12:28] <stefg> whazilla: so 'sudo apt-get -f remove cman'
[12:28] <Paddy_EIRE> God bless IRC
[12:28] <Sanne> Paddy_EIRE: here's some info on nvidia (for when the time comes): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/
[12:28] <whazilla> same error
[12:28] <whazilla> i'll translate
[12:28] <treitter> holy cow - firefox-dbg is nearly 50 MiB
[12:28] <whazilla> or u happen to know any dutch ?
[12:29] <lupine_85> treitter: lots of potential error messages :)
[12:29] <lupine_85> !dk
[12:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[12:29] <lupine_85> Dansk++ :)
[12:29] <stefg> whazilla: i can read it (german mother tongue)
[12:29] <whazilla> kool
[12:29] <treitter> lupine_85: heh. All the debugging packages are basically the original package just recompiled with symbols, right? So it includes all the stadard binaries and libraries, right?
[12:30] <lupine_85> think so
[12:30] <nashife> Sanne: I've tried disabling esd, killing it, and i've then tried configuring winecfg to use OSS, then ALSA, both with "driver emulation" checked and unchecked, and no combination produces sound in wine... any other thoughts?
[12:30] <tronic> the file /etc/hostname doesn't tell me if it's breezy (or what) .... lupine?
[12:30] <Sanne> nashife: maybe it's a problem with the program you want to run under wine?
 cheers printing now :)
[12:30] <whazilla> stefg http://rafb.net/paste/results/CwnbaC98.html
[12:30] <Sanne> Paddy_EIRE: :)
[12:31] <Jowi> treitter: only debugging should end with -dbg as far as I can see. but there are a whole lot of them available and I haven't really gone through them one by one. use apt-cache search to find them.
[12:31] <nashife> Sanne: I'm trying to run starcraft right now. I can try installing some other proggie and see if it has sound
[12:31] <nashife> i also tried other windows installer cds that I know usually have sound
[12:31] <stefg> whazilla: maybe another apt-get -f install now succeeds
[12:32] <treitter> Jowi: yeah, but as I added a few manually in Synaptic (for packages I hadn't already installed), they wanted to install the base package as a dependency
[12:32] <whazilla> heh kik
[12:32] <mooky> there appears to be a lot of users having problems with resolutions under xorg in ubuntu
[12:32] <Paddy_EIRE> 25mins till enemy territory I cant contain myself.....of for a cig
[12:32] <Jowi> treitter: hehe, ouch. that will fill up the hdd pretty quickly :)
[12:32] <whazilla> nope same error
[12:32] <Sanne> nashife: yeah, good idea. Maybe games have additional issues.
[12:32] <tronic> what tells me what the installation is (such as 'breezy') it isn't etc/hostname
[12:32] <mooky> why would this be a common poblem under ubuntu
[12:32] <mooky> compared to other distro's using X/nvidia drivers ?
[12:33] <lupine_85> mooky: think of the silent majority...
[12:33] <stefg> tronic: cat /etc/issue
[12:33] <mooky> lupine_85: could you explain that ?
 my card never worked properly in Mandrake 10.1
[12:33] <treitter> Jowi: exactly :)  - just got this new laptop with a 120 GiB hard drive, but still :)
[12:33] <mooky> /etc/motd
[12:34] <tronic> ty stefg
[12:34] <lupine_85> all those people who have it working just fine don't bother logging onto IRC to tell you how well it's working
[12:34] <tronic> phew
[12:34] <treitter> Jowi: plus, I made my separate root partitions only about 10 GiB, I think
[12:34] <whazilla> can't seem to remove nor fix install cman :$
[12:34] <mooky> lupine_85: no, but the the wiki/bugzilla seems to mention it in detail
[12:34] <mooky> seems common in ubuntu over other distros
[12:34] <lupine_85> or maybe just more attention paid to it
[12:34] <mooky> yes, thats true
[12:34] <nozorro> mooky: maybe it has to do with monitors, i.e. not being autodetected.
[12:35] <mooky> although from personal experience I've never had any problems compared to other distors
[12:35] <lupine_85> it's hard to say without doing some stats ;). but since it's all the same codebase, it seems unlikely to me
[12:35] <mooky> nozorro: for my personal problem that is possible, but doubtful
[12:35] <mooky> lupine_85: thats why I find it strange, as it is the same code base
[12:35] <lupine_85> nozorro: it autdetected my (very modern) monitor with no problems
[12:35] <Jowi> treitter: just curious, why do you need *all* the dbgs?
[12:35] <nashife> Sanne: i tried winamp, and no sound still.
[12:35] <stefg> whazilla: sudo dpkg - ra
[12:36] <nozorro> lupine_85: it din't my old monitor. suse did 5 years back.
[12:36] <stefg> whazilla: sudo dpkg - r -a
[12:36] <lupine_85> TBH I think it's likely to be caused by Ubuntu's current status as distro-to-recommend-to-the-n00b
[12:36] <mooky> interesting it can detect mine fine with ddcprobe - at timing: 1280x1024@75 (VESA) yet it refuses to run it at that resolution
[12:36] <lupine_85> nozorro: maybe it got kicked out the DB for being to old ;)
[12:36] <andyschmitz> So, I have a new Gateway laptop. I got the wireless working using bcm43xx, but the sound is having some problems. It's an ATI IXP (AC97) sound card, and I've tried the snd_atiixp and atiixp drivers, along with almost everything in the forum. It's not that I can't hear the sound, but it stutters whenever it plays. It will repeat a segment of audio a few times, move on to the next one, repeat,...
[12:36] <andyschmitz> ...etc., but the program playing the audio freezes while playing. Anybody have any suggestions, or is it something for the form?
[12:36] <LightTitan> what command do I use to shutdown xserver?
[12:36] <whazilla> dpkg needs action option
[12:36] <nozorro> lupine_85: not likely, floppy drives are detected fine
[12:36] <mooky> LightTitan: init 3
[12:37] <stefg> whazilla: sudo dpkg -r -a cman
[12:37] <treitter> Jowi: I'm trying to tear through a lot of bug reports. In the process, alacarte crashed, and the backtrace wasn't particularly useful :)
[12:37] <lupine_85> xorg != kernel
[12:37] <Xenguy> LightTitan: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[12:37] <treitter> Jowi: ..though I don't think there's a package for alacarte's symbols
[12:37] <Jowi> andyschmitz: if you have esd active, try to kill it and see if the problem dissappear
[12:37] <whazilla> same
[12:37] <LightTitan> Xenguy oh ya, thanks
[12:37] <Sanne> nashife: I'm a bit out of ideas... I'll dig around a bit and yell if I come up with anything (don't hold your breath, though... sorry not very helpful)
[12:37] <andyschmitz> jowi: How would I do that, just ps for the esd daemon and kill that?
[12:37] <mookid> Can someone explain why this happens please? mookid@mookid-desktop:~$ apt-get update
[12:37] <mookid> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:37] <mookid> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:37] <Jowi> treitter: no dbg for it as far as i can see
[12:37] <lupine_85> andyschmitz: killall esd would also do the trick
[12:38] <lupine_85> mookid: run as root
[12:38] <Jowi> andyschmitz: yes
[12:38] <mookid> oh yeah
[12:38] <mookid> _
[12:38] <lupine_85> e.g. sudo apt-get upgrader
[12:38] <mooky> mokomull: normally means something else has a lock on it
[12:38] <lupine_85> erm, upgrade
[12:38] <mooky> or can't access the lock file
[12:38] <andyschmitz> jowi: okay, I'll try that
[12:38] <lupine_85> mooky: "permission denied"...
[12:38] <Xenguy> mookid: you are not root, or another process is using apt-get etc.
[12:38] <mookid> thx
[12:38] <nashife> Sanne: thanks. Someone else i'm talking to said he had sound working with esd disabled and ALSA selected in winecfg, but then he installed starcraft and sound no longer works for him either.
[12:38] <lupine_85> mookid... mooky... any relation...? ;)
[12:38] <searayman> any good docks for ubuntu other then gdesklets?
[12:38] <bluefusionxl> Hi
[12:38] <nashife> I don't know if this helps.
[12:38] <Jowi> andyschmitz: at least you will find out if it is esd that is acting up or not. if it is it can be deactivated completely.
[12:38] <Sanne> nashife: ah yes, make sure esd isn't running still with: ps aux | grep esd
[12:38] <whazilla> :$
[12:38] <andyschmitz> jowi: Nope, didn't do anything
[12:39] <Sanne> nashife: oh...
[12:39] <stefg> whazilla: sudo dpkg -r -a cman
[12:39] <whazilla> xkillx
[12:39] <searayman> any good docks/application launchers?
[12:39] <stefg> !info gdesklets
[12:39] <nashife> Sanne: currently esd is still not running
[12:39] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 465 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[12:39] <andyschmitz> jowi: That is, it still does the same thing, but I can still hear it (still stutters)
[12:39] <whazilla> stefg says dpkg needs action
[12:39] <bluefusionxl> What is a smarthost?  Im installing postfix and it has an option for Internet with Smarthost, Internet site, and Satalite system.. what are those?
[12:39] <Jowi> andyschmitz: using gnome?
[12:39] <Leafw> where is the log of installed packages with apt-get? Somewhere under /etc ?
[12:39] <mooky> bluefusionxl: where mail is relayed to
[12:39] <gurubob> hey all :)
[12:40] <Xenguy> bluefusionxl: smarthost is using the ISP as your STMP (for sending mail)
[12:40] <Subhuman> BlueEagle, umm if you have a dynamic ip, and your isp provides a smarthost for smtp, if you dont know what it is, you prob dont need it
[12:40] <Xenguy> er, smtp
[12:40] <andyschmitz> Jowi: Yes, default Edgy Eft install (plus some drivers for the wireless)
[12:40] <andyschmitz> Jowi: (fully upgraded)
[12:40] <Subhuman> bluefusionxl, sorry *
[12:40] <LightTitan> lupine_85... I installed the restrictid modules. The 686 ones and changed it to nvidia and I could not get X to start
[12:40] <bluefusionxl> So if I want to configure my server for SMTP, I should choose Internet site?
[12:40] <mooky> ahhh here we go
[12:40] <mooky> interesting
[12:40] <Crite> Hi, i could use some help installing my Ubuntu. Can't seem to find any help about my problem on the website. please msg
[12:40] <andyschmitz> bluefusionxl: yes
[12:40] <Jowi> andyschmitz: try chosing alsa as output sink in the multimedia properties. (not tried edgy yet)
[12:41] <mooky> Mode "1280x960" is too large for DWL TFT LCD (DFP-0);discarding
[12:41] <stefg> whazilla: sudo dpkg --remove cman
[12:41] <lupine_85> LightTitan: pastebin the output of dmesg and the error message startx gave
[12:41] <bluefusionxl> And waht is satilite mean?
[12:41] <bluefusionxl> does *
[12:41] <mooky> (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x1024"; removing.
[12:41] <mooky> interesting
[12:41] <andyschmitz> Jowi: Er.. where is that?
[12:41] <Subhuman> Leafw, run "apt-cache pkgnames" i think
[12:41] <Sanne> nashife: then I would try to start over like this: rename ~/.wine to ~./wine-BAK or something, run winecfg to regenerate ~/.wine (including your fake windows drive), install just one small program to test sound, try if it works, and only then install starcraft and see if it breaks.
[12:41] <mookid> Should amarok work out of the box with mp3's or not?
[12:41] <lupine_85> also, what happens if you "sudo modprobe nvidia"?
[12:41] <mookid> cos I can't get it to work
[12:41] <Kronoz> !mp3
[12:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:42] <lupine_85> mookid: install libxine-extracodecs
[12:42] <Jowi> andyschmitz: just to keep you occupied ;) I think it is under system-> prefs -> multimedia something... it worked well under dapper? have you tried another kernel?
[12:42] <LightTitan> !pastbin > LightTitan
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <Subhuman> mookid, yes.
[12:42] <lupine_85> (assuming you're using xine as your engine)
[12:42] <whazilla> it don't seem able to remove cuz it isn't running it says
[12:42] <LightTitan> !pastebin
[12:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:42] <mookid> lupine_85: I would but apt-get install libxine-extracodecs doesnt work
[12:42] <Sanne> nashife: this is assuming you didn't move your fake windows drive somewhere else, though.
[12:42] <Leafw> Subhuman : ok, but I need them to be ordered by date!
[12:42] <stefg> whazilla: so stop it
[12:42] <andyschmitz> Jowi: Well, there's a system->prefs->sound, I've played around with almost all the options there
[12:42] <whazilla> heh
[12:42] <lupine_85> !libxine-extracodecs
[12:42] <stefg> or reboot
[12:42] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:43] <lupine_85> multiverse?
[12:43] <whazilla> but
[12:43] <LightTitan> lupine_85 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23028
[12:43] <Flannel> !tell mookid about mp3
[12:43] <cvt> how do i get permission to move a file to an external hd?
[12:43] <bluefusionxl> !mp3
[12:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:43] <whazilla> et needs to run to be able to get duped ... but i never configured it :$
[12:43] <bluefusionxl> !mp3 mookid
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 mookid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <Jowi> andyschmitz: in dapper "sound" and "multimedia" menues are different. sorry for not being more specific, i haven't used gnome in a while
[12:43] <nashife> Sanne: i will try reinstalling like that.
[12:43] <andyschmitz> Jowi: I guess I haven't tried any other kernels. How might I go about doing that?
[12:43] <Sanne> nashife: ok, good luck :)
[12:44] <peterocks> is there a program that will take my email messages / rss feeds and download them to a file so i can take everything with me on my laptop (which does not have internet)
[12:44] <whazilla> offline explorer
[12:44] <peterocks> ty
[12:44] <whazilla> or just copy cache
[12:44] <bluefusionxl> Does postfix not control the "mail" command?
[12:44] <bluefusionxl> What package does mail come in?  I did the base ubuntu install
[12:44] <lupine_85> LightTitan: that was unhelpful :(. Nothing useful there. Can you pastebin what "sudo modprobe nvidia" says, and what "startx" says as well?
[12:44] <mooky> mail is a seperate application
[12:45] <sethk> bluefusionxl, postfix has nothing to do with mail clients
[12:45] <Crite> Hi, i could use some help installing my Ubuntu. Can't seem to find any help about my problem on the website. please msg
[12:45] <bluefusionxl> What does ubuntu use as default?  pine?
[12:45] <Jowi> andyschmitz: search for "linux-image" in synaptic and install one that matches your cpu. then reboot and select the new one (don't uninstall  the old image until you see that the new one works for you)
[12:45] <LightTitan> lupine_85 the modprobe nvidia says: FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[12:46] <fokuslee> can someone look at the lspci printout i have at pastebin pleae?
[12:46] <skel> does anyone know of an application that would allow me to record X11 and export it to flash or avi or mpg or something like that?
[12:46] <fokuslee> its under my name many thx
[12:46] <andyschmitz> Jowi: I looked everywhere for multimedia, but couldn't find it. Under sound, there is a choice for sound playback, and I tried them all - no differences
[12:46] <andyschmitz> Jowi: Thanks, I'll try installing a different kernel
[12:46] <LightTitan> lupine_85 and startx says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23029
[12:46] <Jowi> andyschmitz: ok.
[12:46] <mcphail> skel: there is something like "vnc2swf"
[12:47] <tristanmike> skel: try looking at xvidcap
[12:47] <lupine_85> LightTitan: ok, can you run "depmod -a" then try modprobing again. If that doesn't work, pastebin the output of "find /lib -name nvidia\*"
[12:47] <Jowi> is there a # for edgy? is #ubuntu+1 active?
[12:47] <skel> tristanmike: thanks, I'll look into that
[12:47] <Flannel> Jowi: #ubuntu+1 yeah
[12:47] <skel> mcphail: I can't use vnc because it freaks out on opengl stuff =/ but thanks :)
[12:47] <Sanne> fokuslee: please paste the link to your pastebin entry
[12:47] <Jowi> andyschmitz: try in #ubuntu+1 if you get nowhere, ok
[12:48] <Jowi> Flannel: cheers
[12:48] <fokuslee> sanne coming rite up
[12:48] <Leafw> does adept have a log at all ?
[12:48] <fokuslee> sanne http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23022
[12:49] <Leafw> How can one know which packages were installed? I can't remember all the dependencies, and I didn't copy them
[12:49] <Shadowpillar> brb, phone stuff
[12:49] <Leafw> their names I mean.
[12:49] <LightTitan> lupine_85 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23030
[12:49] <mookid> I can't edit my sources.list at all it's really annoying me >:(((
[12:49] <gurubob> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:49] <fokuslee> mookid, why is dhat?
[12:49] <mookid> nope says its read only
[12:49] <fokuslee> omg don't use vi
[12:49] <gurubob> what's the perms?
[12:49] <fokuslee> use nano
[12:49] <gurubob> hehe
[12:50] <andyschmitz> Jowi: Thanks!
[12:50] <fokuslee> vi is like owning me
[12:50] <fokuslee> lol
[12:50] <gurubob> vi is ok if you know how to throw it
[12:50] <Flannel> fokuslee: use nano
[12:50] <fokuslee> Flannel u r my friend
[12:50] <lupine_85> LightTitan: and nvidia-glx is installed?
[12:51] <Xenguy> fokuslee: or *learn* vi(m) :-)
[12:51] <fokuslee> Sanne,  did u get it?
[12:51] <LightTitan> lupine_85, yes :(
[12:51] <gurubob> mookid: ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list - what's the rwx etc?
[12:51] <LightTitan> lupine_85 brb
[12:51] <lupine_85> very strange :(
[12:51] <magnet> !perms
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <Sanne> fokuslee: yeah, still trying to understand. You have one PCIe card, but get an error about sli?
[12:51] <fokuslee> yeah i have a card with dual gpu
[12:51] <gurubob> !perms?
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perms? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <fokuslee> Sanne,  it is one card with two graphic processor
[12:52] <trogdoor> My laptop doesn't wake from sleep
[12:52] <magnet> gurubob: sorry I don't know the url :) those are permissions
[12:52] <fokuslee> Sanne,  so it is plugged into only 1 pci express slot
[12:52] <magnet> !permissions
[12:52] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:52] <ANTDx1> I'm back....it still didn't work.  It keeps saying that it can't free up enough space.
[12:52] <magnet> here :)
[12:52] <Vegeta> Why can I not acces the "su", it says "su: Authentication failure"... Whats wrong?
[12:52] <fokuslee> but with win xp i get sli just fine
[12:52] <gurubob> ahhh, a bot :)
[12:52] <Flannel> Vegeta: use sudo
[12:52] <mookid> gurubob: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1776 2006-09-09 23:42 /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:52] <Vegeta> ahh ok
[12:53] <fokuslee> mookid, chmod
[12:53] <fokuslee> u+x
[12:53] <gurubob> mookid: if you "sudo bash", enter you password and type "whoami" what does it say?
[12:53] <mookid> no idea what you're talking about :(
[12:53] <gurubob> why would u-x prevent editing?
[12:53] <mookid> root
[12:53] <mookid> i'm root
[12:53] <LightTitan> lupine_85 I am back.
[12:53] <Sanne> fokuslee: oh, dual gpu, sounds interesting :). Well, I don't really know much about this, sorry. All I can say is, I have a single gpu nvidia PCIe card, and don't get this error. Maybe something is getting confused about your two gpus?
[12:54] <gurubob> ok, good
[12:54] <Flannel> gurubob: why are you having him set his sources.list to execute?
[12:54] <fokuslee> gurubob sorri i didn't understand his question
[12:54] <Leafw> ok, adept logs are under /var/log/dpkg.log together with all apt-get commands
[12:54] <stan_> hello, how do I change the dcc port in bitchx command line manually?
[12:54] <gurubob> it's cool
[12:54] <fokuslee> sanne yeah
[12:54] <djancak> can somebody tell me what the 'universe' component of the Ubuntu software channel is?
[12:54] <gurubob> umm mookid, what's the cmd you're using to edit your sources.list?  mine works fine with nano or vi
[12:54] <fokuslee> sanne i don't think many pplz have my card
[12:54] <Flannel> !tell djancak about components
[12:54] <fokuslee> sanne
[12:54] <Xenguy> !universe
[12:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:54] <Crite> Any kinde hearted person that could help me out? please msg =)
[12:54] <james296> why cant I seem to install Wine properly? I mean, I installed it, but when I wanna launch Quake 4 from the Windows partition of my hd it doesnt show wine anywhere
[12:54] <djancak> thanks
[12:55] <james296> whats the problem here?
[12:55] <magnet> Crite: explain your problem here
[12:55] <Zorlac> Can windows read ext3?
[12:55] <mookid> I'm trying to use nano now
[12:55] <Flannel> Zorlac: not natively
[12:55] <mookid> how do I save changes?
[12:55] <trogdoor> My laptop doesn't wake from sleep
[12:55] <gurubob> Ctrl-O
[12:55] <james296> well?
[12:55] <Zorlac> Would you reccomend ext3 as file storage hard drive?
[12:55] <fokuslee> Sanne,  thx anyways
[12:55] <gurubob> or Ctrl-X (to exit and save)
[12:55] <Crite> magnet: i'm startin the install, but at approx. 40% it just stops installing and dissapears
[12:56] <gurubob> ouch
[12:56] <Flannel> Crite: the ubuntu install?
[12:56] <nozorro> Zorlac: ext3 is fine. maybe not the fastest, but quite proven
[12:56] <Crite> Flannel: yeah
[12:56] <fokuslee> can anyone eles take a look at it?
[12:56] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23022
[12:56] <james296> well can someone help me out?
[12:56] <gurubob> zorlac: google for one?  i know there's an ext2 one out there (with delphi source)
[12:57] <magnet> Crite: well now wait for a good soul to help out ;)
[12:57] <gurubob> hey james
[12:57] <magnet> ps: i'm not a good soul
[12:57] <magnet> :P
[12:57] <LightTitan> lupine_85 I am installing more restricted modules... I only selected one earlier... I will then try to restart x with nvidia in the line... hope it works. I will let you know.
[12:57] <magnet> Crite: have you tried only once?
[12:57] <gurubob> try "wine c:\path\to\quake\quake.exe" or whatever
[12:57] <wikijeff> After installing windows how can I get Grub to be recognized again for dual boot?? I tried reinstalling it from the liveCD, but that didn't work.
[12:57] <Crite> magnet: nope, twice
[12:57] <gurubob> dunno if it's supported but that's how you call wine...
[12:57] <james296> I already asked before, why cant I run Quake 4 on here using Wine? I cant seem to locate Wine when I select a program to run Quake 4, it is installed on my Windows partition
[12:57] <magnet> Crite: and when does it "disappear"?
[12:58] <ANTDx1> lupine_85, are you still available?
[12:58] <vicscandl> fokuslee: so the card has 2 chips on it, or you have 2 cards in the system?
[12:58] <gurubob> james: if you need to specify a full path to wine I think it's /usr/bin/wine
[12:58] <Crite> magnet: at approx 40% of the status bar
[12:58] <gurubob> james: if not sure open an xterm and type "which wine"
[12:58] <Flannel> wikijeff: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:58] <faux> james296: why do you want to run quake4 in wine when there is a native port?
[12:58] <wikijeff> Flannel: thanks
[12:58] <gurubob> :)
[12:58] <james296> cuz I wanna try it out?>
[12:59] <Sanne> fokuslee: good luck :)
[12:59] <mookid> root@mookid-desktop:/home/mookid# apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:59] <mookid> Reading package lists... Done
[12:59] <mookid> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:59] <mookid> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:59] <mookid> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:59] <mookid> is only available from another source
[12:59] <mookid> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[12:59] <Flannel> james296: believe you'll need to install it inside of wine, inside wine's internal C drive
[12:59] <trogdoor> My laptop doesn't wake from sleep
[12:59] <mookid> why does that happen? :(
[12:59] <Flannel> mookid: dont paste here.  Pastebin your sources list.
[12:59] <fokuslee> vicsand1 i have the card with two chip
[12:59] <mookid> I have deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[12:59] <gurubob> !pastebin
[12:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:00] <fokuslee> vicscandl,  do u think the kernel support it?
[01:00] <vicscandl> fokuslee: perhaps i'm wrong, but sli is a 2 card thing?
[01:00] <james296> so it wont work from the Windows partition?
[01:00] <rubenturner> Crite: i had the same problem, did you try passing noapic / nolapic options when booting the cd? i got no idea what it got to do with that, but for me it worked perfectly fine.
[01:01] <fokuslee> visandl, your correct but gigabyte came out with this gay one
[01:01] <gurubob> Regarding Ubuntu packages, if PHP 5.1.13 is available (via php.net) but it's only 5.1.12 via Synaptic/apt, when might it be available?
[01:01] <fokuslee> viscandl
[01:01] <Flannel> james296: I don't believe so, but I'm not too familiar with wine
[01:01] <Flannel> gurubob: edgy
[01:01] <trogdoor> My laptop doesn't wake from sleep
[01:01] <magnet> Crite: I don't know anything about status bars
[01:01] <james296> drat...
[01:01] <Flannel> gurubob: although, the security updates will be avialable if theyre not already
[01:01] <EpP> can i inject packets with an intel wirles card?
[01:01] <magnet> Crite: doesn't the installer tell you what's it's installing?
[01:01] <gurubob> trog: mine didn't when i was running Breezy but updating to Dapper fixed it (Toshiba)
[01:01] <wikijeff> Flannel: During the process should I reformat / and swap?
[01:02] <Flannel> wikijeff: you shouldn't need to...
[01:02] <fokuslee> viscandl i have a card with two 6600 gt chip on it
[01:02] <trogdoor> gurubob, I am running Dapper.
[01:02] <fokuslee> and it has sli mode in windows
[01:02] <fokuslee> but in ubuntu it does not show any sli
[01:02] <EpP> can i inject packets with an intel wirless card?
[01:02] <gurubob> trog: hmm, no idea? :(
[01:02] <KaosX> I wont switch to edgy until it's out for reals
[01:02] <jbroome> holla
[01:02] <gurubob> flannel: edgy?
[01:03] <KaosX> EpP: what exactly are you trying to do?
[01:03] <fokuslee> !edgy
[01:03] <wikijeff> Flannel: It says go to manual partitioning in the installer
[01:03] <Flannel> gurubob: edgy is the development codename for 6.10
[01:03] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:03] <rubenturner> Crite: during Installation or Formating the disk?
[01:03] <vicscandl> fokuslee: i'm not sure... i'm no expert, just know that sli was a 2 card mode, at least when i was looking into it.
[01:03] <EpP> KaosX, wE CRACKING
[01:03] <EpP> KaosX,  WEP
[01:03] <KaosX> cracking what?
[01:03] <Sanne> gurubob: generally there won't be updates to an ubuntu release (except security patches and grave bugfixes) for it's live cycle.
[01:03] <Flannel> wikijeff: look at number 5 ;)
[01:03] <Crite> rubenturner: hmm.. i'll check it out again
[01:03] <Vegeta> How do I change the permission of a file to be executable? Isn't it "chmod a+x" or is there something more to it?
[01:03] <fokuslee> viscandl thx anyways
[01:03] <KaosX> EpP: as long as it can be made promiscuous you should be fine
[01:03] <fokuslee> linux sucky
[01:04] <fokuslee> sli not working no flash
[01:04] <fokuslee> on 64 bit
[01:04] <fokuslee> T.T
[01:04] <wikijeff> Flannel: Grub Resources??? It's just a bunch of links
[01:04] <jbroome> fokuslee: try XP 64bit and see how much more luck you have
[01:04] <gurubob> sanne: thanks - how do i upgrade from dapper -> latest?
[01:04] <EpP> KaosX, can i inject with a intel card?
[01:04] <fokuslee> jbroome good point
[01:05] <Flannel> wikijeff: no, 5 under "Using the Install CD and overwriting the Windows bootloader"
[01:05] <KaosX> I dont know, go check the kismet forums or something
[01:05] <bluefusionxl> Hmm :)
[01:05] <KaosX> mine works
[01:05] <EpP> ok thx
[01:05] <Sanne> fokuslee: for 64bit flash, complain to the company who doesn't come up with a 64 bit version.
[01:05] <KaosX> and its intel
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> trying to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I get an error that it can't remove /tmp/dexconf-tmp that the dir is not empty, anyone know what might be going wrong?
[01:05] <bluefusionxl> Why do alot of people like Apache 1.3 apposed to Apache2?
[01:05] <Crite> rubenturner: while detecting file system
[01:05] <Flannel> bluefusionxl: you're better off asking #apache
[01:05] <fokuslee> sanne yeah i no i was just being a cry baby
[01:05] <bluefusionxl> alrighty :)
[01:06] <Sanne> gurubob: latest would be edgy, but it's still in development. It is scheduled for October.
[01:06] <Sanne> fokuslee: oh hehe got me there ;)
[01:06] <rubenturner> Crite: yeah, that was were it hang with me too. at exactly 50 percent for me
[01:06] <magnet> bluefusionxl: because they're wrong; apache2 is a lot better
[01:06] <Paddy_EIRE> ok i have "et-linux-2.55.x86.run" downloaded what do i need to learn about this file
[01:06] <ANTDx1> Guys, Ubuntu's partitioner doesn't seem to be able to resize my Windows partition.  I have defragged many times.  Anyone know how to make it work?
[01:06] <trogdoor> My laptop won't wake up from sleep, it is a macbook pro
[01:06] <wikijeff> Flannel: Ok, it says it must format /, /boot, /usr, /var though
[01:06] <Flannel> wikijeff: No it doesnt.  DONT format them
[01:06] <ANTDx1> I'm trying to dual-boot with XP
[01:07] <peter_> hi all how do i get my dvds to work now that im using ubuntu
[01:07] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: sh it
[01:07] <Flannel> ANTDx1: you can always just resize in windows,
[01:07] <wikijeff> It isn't asking me. It just says Filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other filesystems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[01:07] <shinynew> what is a good CD burning app that can burn bootable bin files
[01:07] <Crite> rubenturner: so what did you say you did? forgot what it was
[01:07] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: (no pun intended :)
[01:07] <ANTDx1> How do I resize in Windows?
[01:07] <Flannel> wikijeff: which installer are you using?
 what was that command to make it executable
[01:08] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: chmod +x but you don't need to
[01:08] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: just sh it
[01:08] <wikijeff> Flannel: I just downloaded and burned 6.06 Live CD and I'm using the Installer located on the desktop
[01:08] <peter_> is it good
[01:08] <Flannel> wikijeff: ah, you need to scroll down to the "using the ubuntu lvieCD" part then
 oh i get...nice one as in " sh ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run"
[01:08] <wikijeff> Flannel: ok, thanks
[01:08] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: yep :)
[01:09] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[01:09] <ANTDx1> Flannel:  how do I resize partition in windows?
[01:09] <nashife> Sanne: some developments:  I renamed and recreated .wine and installed winamp. disabled esd, tried all combinations of OSS and ALSA with hardware accel to emulation, but still there was no sound. Then i tried enabling esd and checking EsounD which is esd in wine... and I had really really really crappy sound and winamp crashed completely. Does this tell you anything?
[01:09] <jazzrocker> ANTDx1, you don't. you use the ubuntu installer to resize your partitions
[01:09] <peter_> i dont know how to do it so im going to have to get it sent out to me lol
[01:09] <ANTDx1> jazzrocker:  I just said that wasn't working for me.  Then, Flannel suggested I use Windows to do it
[01:10] <fokuslee> ANTDx1 u can use partition magic
[01:10] <AngryElf> guys, when I view a new samba share from windows there are files in it that don't exist here with ls -a in ubuntu....morover, updatedb + locate doens't find them...what's the deal?
[01:10] <ANTDx1> Partition magic != free
[01:10] <jazzrocker> ANTDx1, how much free space do you have on your windows partition and what filesystem are you using
[01:10] <rubenturner> Crite: when you boot the cd you got a line where you can give several options and for me it worked with noapic and nolapic but i forgot the exact syntax, but you can look at the options if you press f4 or so...
[01:10] <ANTDx1> I am using NTFS, and I have about half of it free...about 50 GB
[01:10] <wikijeff> Flannel: How do I find out what my harddisk + boot partition numbers are?? i.e. (hd0,6)
[01:10] <trogdoor> My laptop won't wake up from sleep, it is a macbook pro
[01:10] <AngryElf> files like ksocket -- gdm_socket -- mapping[myusername] 
 It is recommended to install as the super user Please enter the root password or hit enter to continue as is
[01:10] <fokuslee> ANTDx1 partition magic is soo free if your ok with pirating
[01:11] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: what are you trying to install?
[01:11] <ANTDx1> I'd prefer legal software if possible
[01:11] <Crite> rubenturner: okay, thanks =)
[01:11] <Flannel> wikijeff: hard disk number is easy, partition number depends on your setup.  primary IDE drives are 0 (master) and slave (1), secondary are 2 and 3 respectively
[01:11] <fokuslee> ANTD hold on maybe i can find u one
[01:11] <ANTDx1> ok
 enemy territory
[01:11] <nozorro> AngryElf: for locate / updatedb, edit /etc/updatedb.conf to configure
[01:11] <shinynew> what is a good CD burning software?
[01:11] <trogdoor> ANTDx1: what is wrong with gparted on a liveCD?
[01:12] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: do you want to install it for all users, or just for you, do you want to install it in /usr or /opt or in your home?
[01:12] <Sanne> nashife: not really, for me it just worked pretty much out of the box... hmmm, maybe it's some weird hardware issue even. I had problems with Quake3 and my onboard realtek sound chip, maybe I would have gotten problems in wine too (I put in my old sb 128 pci, all fine now). Do you have onboard sound?
[01:12] <ANTDx1> I haven't tried gparted on a live CD...I've only tried Ubuntu's installation area
my home
[01:12] <magnet> Paddy_EIRE: then hit enter and continue :)
[01:12] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[01:12] <trogdoor> ANTDx1, and that didn't work?
[01:12] <ANTDx1> That didn't work.  It keeps saying it was unable to free up enough space for installation
[01:12] <KaosX> shinynew: k3b is awesome for burning
[01:12] <ANTDx1> I have defragged
[01:13] <nashife> Sanne: I have on-board sound, but my system is using the other sound card... hm. maybe i should try plugging my speakers into the onboard sound
[01:13] <stiv2k_> can someone help me get sound working in firefox?  I want to listen to something on youtube...I see video, no sound...help
[01:13] <trogdoor> ANTDx1, how much free space is there on the drive?
[01:13] <SaitoHajime> magnet, it's not cool to install a game in home
[01:13] <ANTDx1> about 50 GB
[01:13] <magnet> SaitoHajime: he said he wanted to
[01:13] <KaosX> !restricted > stiv2k_
[01:13] <ANTDx1> I've been trying to resize it by about 20
[01:14] <Sanne> nashife: heh, yeah, why not try this. You could also try to explicitely disable the onboard sound in your BIOS and try again with your other card.
[01:14] <KaosX> you can run sndconfig too
[01:14] <nashife> Sanne: holy frack. onboard sound seems to work.
[01:14] <stiv2k_> KaosX: thanks
[01:14] <trogdoor> ANTDx1, You can try the gparted LiveCD, but Ubuntu's should work.
[01:14] <Sanne> nashife: ha! So that's an alsa config issue then!
[01:14] <ANTDx1> I know it should work, but it doesn't work
[01:14] <shinynew> Kasosx: thanks
[01:14] <Sanne> nashife: I *think* you can specify somewhere which card to use as default.
[01:14] <ANTDx1> where do i get the gparted live CD?
[01:15] <trogdoor> ANTDx1, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:15] <ANTDx1> ok thanks
[01:15] <Homer> can I view the ubuntu driver database?
[01:15] <fokuslee> ANTDx1 use this
[01:15] <fokuslee> http://www.download.com/Partition-Logic/3000-2248_4-10503523.html?tag=lst-0-1
[01:16] <fokuslee> itz called parition logic
[01:16] <SaitoHajime> fokuslee, he left
[01:16] <rubenturner> !schedule
[01:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:16] <fokuslee> I hate him lol
[01:16] <SaitoHajime> xD
[01:17] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23022
[01:17] <trogdoor> My laptop won't wake up from sleep, it is a macbook pro
[01:17] <fokuslee> my lspci read out whats wrong?
[01:17] <noob> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO ENABLE SAMBA SIGNING?
[01:17] <Subhuman> !caps
[01:17] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:18] <nashife> Sanne: I will look into that. thanks. :)
[01:18] <IMEC> is there a way to import the mit-magic-cookie automatically in the root's xauth list because I have to do it every time by hand?
[01:18] <trogdoor> My laptop won't wake up from sleep, it is a macbook pro
[01:18] <Vegeta> How can I UNinstall other software than those found in the packages? Because I want to uninstall Maple, but don't know howto. Is it enoug just to delete the directory?
[01:19] <Sanne> nashife: yeah, that, or, if you don't need two cards, try disabling onboard (or plug out the other). Good luck again :)
[01:19] <magnet> trogdoor: stop repeating;  disable the sleep mode (hibernate or suspend? try both) and for now just reboot it
[01:19] <noob> does anyone know how to enable samba signing?
[01:19] <trogdoor> magnet, sorry
[01:20] <nozorro> Vegeta: you just delete it and also the config file(s) in home dir. but program files may be scattered over several directories. always use packg. manager if possible
[01:20] <Homer> Do ATI drivers still suck?
[01:20] <nozorro> Vegeta: be careful when deleting
[01:20] <fokuslee> Homer what u mean?
[01:20] <stiv2k_> KaosX: its still not working
[01:21] <Vegeta> nozorro: The software Im talking about (Maple) didn't come from package respos...
[01:21] <bluefusionxl> are there any command line password generation programs?  Im tired of using my windows one lol
[01:21] <bluefusionxl> linux > windows
[01:21] <nozorro> Vegeta: lock for a list of files installed on the site from where you got it, or in the docu. again, be careful
[01:21] <ilan> hello, can the dapper installer resize hfs+ partitions?
[01:21] <noob> yeah..about the samba signing
[01:21] <magnet> bluefusionxl: pwgen
[01:22] <vasi> ilan: parted is supposed to be able to do that
[01:22] <nozorro> Vegeta: when did you install it. several days ago?
[01:22] <noob> does anyone know how to enable samba signing??
[01:22] <fokuslee> noob, when u don't get response it just means no one knows
[01:22] <magnet> noob: you should try to get help on a samba related channel or website..
[01:22] <trogdoor> ilan: no, but the gparted liveCD has an updated version of gparted that can.
[01:22] <Vegeta> nozorro: No a couple of hours ago.
[01:22] <vasi> ilan: but it's still a very new feature, i highly recommend you back up first
[01:22] <EpP> y should i install ubuntu
[01:22] <EpP> windows has the most apps of all
[01:22] <magnet> EpP: you shouldn't
[01:23] <IMEC> EpP: no reason at all
[01:23] <fokuslee> EpP to try something new
[01:23] <EpP> magnet, I know... the only think i use it for is python
[01:23] <ilan> trogdoor / vasi: thanks, ill check it out.
[01:23] <Vegeta> EpP: Linux isn't for the weak minded.
[01:23] <snake> I have 2 moniters, is tehre any software to make the second one in "extended desktop" mode rather than in presentation mode?
[01:23] <magnet> EpP: python is available for windows
[01:23] <nozorro> Vegeta: do this in a terminal 'sudo updatedb' -- after that, we can find related files easily (most of them)
[01:23] <Milktea> Does anyone know of anything like BlueJ for linux
[01:23] <trogdoor> vasi: If you have an intel mac you should use bootcamp, but back up either way.
[01:23] <EpP> Vegeta, well i like linux... but i want a reason to install it on my new thinkpad
[01:24] <fokuslee> EpP b/c its faster than windows
[01:24] <magnet> EpP: if you can't find the reason by yourself, don't
[01:24] <IMEC> is there a way to import the mit-magic-cookie automatically in the root's xauth list ?
[01:24] <TEN> Milktea Sure: BlueJ for Linux
[01:24] <vasi> trogdoor: i'm on PPC anyhow :-)
[01:24] <Milktea> Oh there is one?
[01:24] <magnet> IMEC: sudo cp ~/.Xauthority /root/
[01:24] <magnet> hu
[01:24] <magnet> no
[01:24] <Milktea> oh cool
[01:24] <magnet> sorry :)=
[01:24] <Milktea> there is one
[01:25] <trogdoor> vasi: I forgot, the gparted liveCD isn't for PPC
[01:25] <Milktea> Does anyone have a nice icon pack
[01:25] <magnet> IMEC: if you sudo it ~ will be /root, so cp /home/youruser/.Xauthority /root/
[01:25] <CreativePony> I have ubuntu dapper on my pc, and changed it's drive config so that its now the master drive instead of slave to another.. I've managed to reconfigure grub to work again, but now its freezing at boot on "Waiting for root file system..."
[01:25] <melon> with every program i've tried.. mp3s sounds horrible.. other than converting them to ogg - any suggestions?
[01:25] <trogdoor> vasi: You can do it from the dapper liveCD from the command line though.
[01:25] <Vegeta> nozorro: I did that. Now what to do?'
[01:25] <KaosX> milktea: art.gnome.com
[01:26] <CreativePony> oh.. the system just changed and went in to "busybox"
[01:26] <Milktea> Thanks
[01:26] <baconbacon> melon: converting them to something can't make them BETTER :S
[01:26] <IMEC> magnet: why is it generated only for the user and not for the root?
[01:26] <KaosX> maybe art.gnome.org...cant remember
[01:26] <TEN> Milktea There was one last time I looked. And a lot more stable than it's Windows incarnation I might add (this was due to the then JRE of course).
[01:26] <Milktea> What is the default directory for Java under Ubuntu
[01:26] <magnet> IMEC: or if you manage multiple users, cat /home/user/.Xauthority >> /root/.Xauthority
[01:26] <vasi> trogdoor: i think the gentoo livecd has parted with hfs resize
[01:26] <CreativePony> is there somewhere else to specify the drive to boot from
[01:26] <melon> i get that.. lol.. they sounded fined before i switched to ubuntu - i assumed it was the mp3 format
[01:26] <KaosX> /usr/bin/java i think
[01:26] <Milktea> TEN: Yeah, I see it. I just don't know where Java is installed
[01:26] <Milktea> okay thankws
[01:26] <baconbacon> usr bin java is a link to the java pgm
[01:26] <magnet> IMEC: it is generated by xdm (gdm, kdm) when you log, you can also generate one with xauth but it is NOT intended to;
[01:26] <nozorro> Vegeta: now do this in terminal: 'locate maple* > maplefiles.txt' the latter text file should give you a reasonable selection of maple's file, but check individually if in doubt
[01:26] <TEN> Milktea find / -name java
[01:27] <Milktea> ah
[01:27] <Milktea> thanks
[01:27] <KaosX> milktea to be sure ...   which java
[01:27] <Milktea> I'm relatively new to Linu
[01:27] <trogdoor> vasi: So does Ubuntu, it's just gparted that refuses to do it because it is still beta.
[01:27] <IMEC> magnet: thank you
[01:27] <magnet> IMEC: xauth generate :0 . (if you really need to generated once logged)
[01:27] <TEN> Milktea Put a sudo in front.
[01:27] <Milktea> okay
[01:27] <KaosX> im in the middle of downloading all the kde stuff so I can go between gnome and kde as necessary
[01:27] <vasi> my virtual consoles don't seem to work, when i switch to them i just see a very distorted bit of my xorg screen
[01:27] <vasi> anybody have any idea what that could be about?
[01:28] <vasi> (it happens in single-user mode as well)
[01:28] <vicscandl> my turn: Network controller: Broadcomm Corporation BCM4306 80211b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[01:28] <vicscandl> i can't get it to become active.
[01:28] <Milktea> okay
[01:28] <Milktea> it found
[01:28] <Milktea> /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/java
[01:28] <baconbacon> vasi, did you try to enable framebuffer for console?
[01:28] <TEN> Or open a root shell via sudo -s -H. You know, "be crude, be root, just be" or something from the ads...
[01:28] <Milktea> and then it found my windows java stuff
[01:29] <baconbacon> Milktea: what are you trying to do ...
[01:29] <Milktea> Install BlueJ
[01:29] <vasi> vicscandl: the linux driver is very new for broadcom chipsets
[01:29] <Milktea> It's asking me for the Java (JDK) directory
[01:29] <vasi> take a look at http://www.seungpyo.com/stacksandpiles/2006/07/02/broadcom-wireless-in-ubuntu-dapper-606/
[01:29] <Vegeta> nozorro: hmm... it found 65 000 files!!!
[01:29] <baconbacon> Milktea: you dont have the JDK if you dont download it
[01:30] <Milktea> Oh..
[01:30] <vasi> baconbacon: i'm not sure exactly what you mean...
[01:30] <nozorro> Vegeta: do you remember where you installed maple, and how?
[01:30] <TEN> Milktea IIRC BlueJ even had some code to search for an appropriate JDK - if you do have one.
[01:30] <baconbacon> Milktea: there is the package sun-java5-jdk
[01:30] <vasi> does the default ubuntu PPC kernel not support framebuffer consoles?
[01:30] <Milktea> ok
[01:30] <Milktea> thanks
[01:30] <Vegeta> Yeah I know the directory.
[01:30] <nozorro> Vegeta: which one?
[01:30] <vasi> because i don't think VGA consoles exist on PPC...
[01:31] <vasi> i may just be confused though :-(
[01:31] <Vegeta> nozorro: /home/
[01:31] <baconbacon> oh sorry i don't know about ppc issues
[01:31] <Milktea> Also, I can't play my mp3's and m4p's in XMMS, but I can play them in other music playing programs
[01:31] <vasi> baconbacon: thanks anyhow!
[01:31] <Vegeta> nozorro:  /home/<username> more precis
[01:31] <baconbacon> Milktea: you need xmms-mad
[01:32] <Milktea> okay thanks
[01:32] <nozorro> Vegeta: lol, in that case ... look, in your home dir you can do whatever you like, just delete what you don't need. the home dir is under your command. be carefule anyway
[01:33] <Vegeta> But isn't the files spread over a wide location?
[01:33] <snake> I have 2 moniters, is tehre any software to make the second one in "extended desktop" mode rather than in presentation mode?
[01:33] <nozorro> Vegete: not if you installed in home dir. the package might have tried to created sys directories in home directory, but that depends
[01:34] <fredtucs> alguien habla espaol?
[01:34] <nozorro> Vegeta: !es
[01:34] <nozorro> sorry Vegeta, not for you
[01:35] <nozorro> !es
[01:35] <Leafw> fredtucs : si
[01:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:36] <baconbacon> Milktea: after installing the package you need to sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:36] <baconbacon> Milktea: I mean, sun-java5-jdk and all its dependencies
[01:36] <hikenboot> hello all --there is a package called ubuntu-desktop...it says its unnecessary but removing it will prevent packages from being installed....is this correct?
[01:37] <TEN> BTW guess I should let you in on a little secret revealed by mlk from #linux.de last night: http://ten.htpc-forum.de/ajax_shell_fakelogin.html As you can see all that's missing is some glue code to funnel a local console over https to that remote display code in a browser - to get encrypted shell access without any lokal installs for ssh or VPN.
[01:37] <snake> I have 2 moniters, is tehre any software to make the second one in "extended desktop" mode rather than in presentation mode?
[01:37] <baconbacon> hikenboot: yes, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, it only provides dependencies
[01:37] <nozorro> hikenboot: i think it will prevent upgrades. it's a metapackage
[01:37] <hikenboot> so how do i remove things like openoffice without removing this package
[01:38] <KaosX> hikenboot: sudo apt-get remove openoffice
[01:38] <BHSPitLappy> hikenboot, it's perfectly all right to remove ubuntu-desktop.
[01:38] <BHSPitLappy> go for it.
[01:38] <baconbacon> you got to, just be aware of the potential problems, let me find a link
[01:38] <TEN> Is anyone working on something that would nicely complement that AJAX "browser shell" ?
[01:38] <AHgpjuwKA> Does anyone have drivers for intel740 video adapter?
[01:38] <Vegeta> hmm... It seems that I have another problem. Why is it that Linux can't distenguish between what program it should use to open a specifik file? With "foreign" softwares that is. If we take Maple as an example, it used text editer programs to open Maple files. But when I choose those files to be open in maple, it also effected the txt files, so they oppened in maple :S
[01:38] <vicscandl> TEN: wow... thats some neato trix
[01:39] <iceman> anyone got any cool desktop screenshots ?
[01:39] <baconbacon> hikenboot: problems can arise when you upgrade to edgy
[01:39] <nozorro> Vegeta: external apps often don't follow the conventions of gnome/kde to achieve that
[01:39] <nozorro> Vegeta: third-party apps i meant
[01:40] <hikenboot> I am in 6.06.1
[01:40] <trogdoor> iceman: http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/SS.png
[01:40] <TEN> He's even got the inversion, so exporting mc or pine to a browser would be entirely feasible and usable.
[01:40] <Vegeta> nozorro: Is there no way to correct his problem?
[01:40] <baconbacon> hikenboot: as :  you wont get new packages which are "guaranteed" to be installed because ubuntu-desktop depends on them (like ... i dont know... xgl maybe)
[01:40] <Paddy_EIRE> enemy territory ten times faster on linux than when i had windooozzze
[01:40] <bluefusionxl> Where is apache's document root for ssl defined in the debian package?
[01:40] <magnet> Vegeta: this has nothing to do with "Linux"
[01:40] <Shrimp> can someone tell me how I set the OSS sounddriver to deafult?
[01:40] <Paddy_EIRE> lovin this :)
[01:40] <BHSPitLappy> TEN, uhh, what do you mean by your previous question?
[01:40] <TEN> vicscandl Here's yet another one: http://ten.htpc-forum.de/ajax_shell_fakelogin_bitstream_vera.html
[01:41] <magnet> Vegeta: what's your desktop environment? (gnome, kde or xfce)
[01:41] <iceman> trogdoor generic .... lol
[01:41] <Goldfisch> My printer settings are screwed up since I upgraded to dapper. I tried "sudo foomatic-cleanupdrivers", followed by "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cups", but that didn't do it. When I open printer adminstration, it detects my printer, but there are not choices in the "Manufacturer" list.
[01:41] <Vegeta> magnet: KDE
[01:41] <nozorro> Vegeta: other than using what is provided by the file manager, the solution would hacking some code i guess, or asking the company to provide the necessary data
[01:41] <magnet> Vegeta: blame KDE; I don't help with KDE
[01:41] <Vegeta> lol
[01:42] <baconbacon> Vegeta, maple should register a file type handler, else there's not much to do except code it
[01:42] <sethk> Vegeta, in kde and gnome, you can set file associations
[01:42] <nozorro> Vegeta: dunno how it works in kde
[01:42] <sethk> Vegeta, and specify an app to use to open a file with a particular mime type
[01:42] <iceman> anyone got any good desktop screenshots ?
[01:43] <searayman> need help with root stuff please
[01:43] <sethk> iceman, by good, you mean clear?  you mean unusual?  what?
[01:43] <nozorro> iceman: define 'good'
[01:43] <sethk> searayman, ask a question
[01:43] <baconbacon> sethk, Vegeta: the problem must be that maple files are plain text files
[01:43] <searayman> iceman: i will in a bit
[01:43] <sethk> baconbacon, that's certainly possible.
[01:43] <Goldfisch> I'm trying to install the printer through my web browser on http://localhost:631, but it wants my username and password, which isn't working. I don't know what username password it wants.
[01:43] <foo> Hmm, in fluxbox.. my background isn't saved. I have ubuntu server install ... any ideas?
[01:43] <searayman> sethk: well i want to change permissions on a directory so i can move stuff into and out of it by dragging and droping files
[01:43] <vicscandl> TEN: i'll be reviewing them later tonight..thanks
[01:44] <TEN> BHSPitLappy I meant that's some pretty impressive way to get a usable text console within a browser, in just 5k or so. Now all that's needed is some code intercepting the changes to a local console and mirroring them remotely via that AJAX code - and there you have it, and "immortal" secure remote shell that makes it through any firewall if need be.
[01:44] <iceman> sethk Different, Unique, Unusual. Out side the box. well configured
[01:44] <Vegeta> sethk: Your talking about "Remember application association for this type of file"?
[01:44] <sethk> searayman, ok
[01:44] <baconbacon> so, how should one go to register ex. : ".mpl" as a new mime type
[01:44] <Vegeta> baconbacon: I think you're right...
[01:44] <nozorro> baconbacon: in gnome at least that should be no hindrance
[01:44] <searayman> sethk:  i think there is a terminal command i just forget it
[01:44] <TEN> -n
[01:44] <Sanne> Vegeta: konqueror, right click on file, properties, click on icon beside "type"
[01:44] <sethk> Vegeta, I have kde which doesn't use that language.  I'd have to check the language in gnome
[01:44] <hikenboot> if i take out openoffce and it also takes out ubuntu-desktop...can i add ubuntu-desktop with out it adding open-office again>?
[01:44] <sethk> searayman, chmod
[01:44] <magnet> hikenboot: no
[01:44] <sethk> searayman, chmod can be used to change permissions on both files and directories
[01:45] <Sanne> Vegeta: for kde specific questions, there's also #kubuntu
[01:45] <james296> ok, what can I do to make sure I remember how to reset xorg.conf?
[01:45] <james296> I want to go to that setup screen again plz
[01:45] <james296> show me where to go plz
[01:46] <james296> besides having to write it down...
[01:46] <iceman> searayman what desktop u use ? XFCE, Gnome, KDE, ?
[01:46] <baconbacon> make a backup of it
[01:46] <sethk> Vegeta, when you get a dialog with an "always do this for this type of file" checkbox, it will tell you how to change it later, meaning how to change it.
[01:46] <james296> ok, so what is it and where do I go in case I dont remember next time?
[01:46] <magnet> hikenboot:
[01:46] <magnet> !ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:46] <james296> well?
[01:47] <james296> what is it plz?
[01:47] <Shrimp> can someone tell me how I set the OSS sounddriver to deafult?
[01:47] <smoked1> There is a debian package in the debian repository but not in the ubuntu repository. Can I still download it from the debian repository and install it?
[01:47] <hikenboot> ok since i intend to make this cd to run from the cd perminently it shouldnt matter any ways I suppose problem will come in when people try and install to hard drive and add packages.
[01:47] <james296> so what is it???
[01:47] <jbroome> smoked1: you can, but it's not a good idea
[01:47] <sethk> james296, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:48] <baconbacon> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the file
[01:48] <nozorro> smoked1: there may be incompatibilities
[01:48] <magnet> james296: next time if you want a faster answer, don't insist that much
[01:48] <james296> 
[01:48] <TEN> vicscandl & BHSPitLappy If you've got any extensions please let me know in a /MSG ;-) ...nite for now...
[01:48] <smoked1> Hmm, I need openswan or some other way of connecting to my VPN using IKE. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:49] <smoked1> Should I just compile openswan?
[01:49] <baconbacon> using ike...
[01:49] <baconbacon> let me check
[01:49] <Vegeta> Sanne: Where did you wrote that?
[01:49] <smoked1> It's a sonicwall vpn and stupid sonicwall does not support linux
[01:50] <Homer> hmm
[01:50] <iceman> anyone other widgets like gkrellm, you can use ?
[01:50] <baconbacon> smoked1 can vpnc handle this
[01:50] <Homer> sudo apt-get moo
[01:50] <Sanne> Vegeta: konqueror, right click on file, properties, click on icon beside "type"
[01:50] <SaitoHajime> Homer, hehe =)
[01:50] <smoked1> i think vpnc only does ipsec or pptp
[01:50] <Sanne> Vegeta: but maybe it won't work, as I'm being informed right now on #kubuntu.
[01:50] <Vegeta> yea
[01:50] <joscha> what is lrm-manager for?
[01:51] <ax7> that's a secret
[01:51] <SaitoHajime> Homer, aptitude -v moo
[01:51] <sethk> Sanne, type there means mime type
[01:51] <sethk> generally speaking a mime type is only available on an HTTP download
[01:51] <TEN> smoked1 What's your client? I had little luck trying to use the omnipresent Cisco VPN Client (distributed widely on campuses and corporate laptops) with anything *not* built by Cisco. If there's a "walk-thru" how to actually get it to work with some free server I'd be glad to learn about that...
[01:51] <Sanne> sethk: ah
[01:52] <Homer> SaitoHajime, :D
[01:52] <SaitoHajime> Homer, then add a v
[01:53] <SaitoHajime> Homer, and another one and another ....
[01:53] <IndyBC> I have written a Python program. How can I make it a .deb file?
[01:53] <trogdoor> Is there a way to allow windows to go below the screen in compiz ( like they can with regular metacity )?
[01:53] <smoked1> TEN, Well I think openswan will work but I was hoping to use something in the repository
[01:54] <quiet> why does my ndiswrapper wifi card randomly switch bewteen eth1 and wlan0??
[01:54] <quiet> like.. upon reboot.. it doesn't happen while the system is running.
[01:54] <thehil> how do I remove a package without removing its dependent packages?
[01:54] <cvt> how can the processes list say i'm using 600mB of ram but the resources tab says i'm well under 128mB?
[01:55] <thehil> cvt: what resource tab?
[01:55] <thehil> quiet: how do I remove a package without removing its dependent packages?
[01:55] <bluefusionxl> Where is apache's document root for ssl defined in the debian package?
[01:55] <cvt> thehil,  in system monitor
[01:55] <TEN> smoked1 Just have a log sitting on my desk where the server complains about incorrect lengths of the packets coming from the Cisco VPN Client (shorter than advertised, not in multiples of 4 bytes). Could test whether openswan can handle them anyway though. If you've got some recommended reading (or a PCF file for that client) just let me know ;-)
[01:55] <TEN> +not
[01:56] <nozorro> cvt: the system monitor shows used memory less cached / buffered mem
[01:56] <smoked1> TEN, try loweringmthe MTU on the cisco and make sure to allow fragmented packets.
[01:56] <thehil> cvt: the resource tab and free -m have different algorithms quoting free memory
[01:56] <nozorro> cvt: the same as the dark green in the sys mon applet on the panel i guess
[01:57] <denisbr> Hi Peoples
[01:57] <sethk> cvt, the linux kernel does not reclaim released memory until it actually needs to use the memory
[01:57] <thehil> denisbr: how do I remove a package without removing its dependent packages?
[01:57] <sethk> cvt, so it still has the status of "in use" even though it is not actually in use
[01:57] <denisbr> thehil: sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE --purge
[01:58] <Homer> SaitoHajime, lol funny stuff
[01:58] <TEN> smoked1 Thanx! Will look for an option like that in the VPN Client (is it on the menu at all?) once I get my hands on that laptop...
[01:58] <SaitoHajime> Homer, =
[01:58] <trogdoor> Is my network "split" ( I only learned about this earlier today so I may be using the term wrong ) or is there nobody else at #ubuntu-xgl ?
[01:58] <odla> how can i create a shortcut to /home/lontra on my desktop?  if i try to drag the places -> home onto the desktop it doens't allow me to drop and drag into home
[01:59] <smoked1> This would be on the firewall itself not the client
[01:59] <vasi> trogdoor: splut
[01:59] <vasi> er, split
[01:59] <baconbacon> odla: create a shortcut with holding alt while draganddropping
[01:59] <trogdoor> vasi: anything I can do about it?
[02:00] <vasi> trogdoor: try disconnecting and reconnecting, maybe you'll get a better server
[02:00] <sethk> trogdoor, I show 58 people
[02:00] <davin^zZz> mcphail: dunno if you there, but it coped 105 GB in 6198.9 secs with 17 MB/sec, its 2 am and im heading back to bed, cheers!
[02:00] <trogdoor> vasi: I can see you on there now.
[02:00] <trogdoor> vasi: or could
[02:00] <vasi> yeah, i just left :-)
[02:01] <Xteven> hi
[02:01] <nozorro> baconbacon: is alt really needed for that? works for me without it
[02:01] <Xteven> ubuntu comes with a memtest on the installcd
[02:01] <Xteven> are there other tools I can run on my pc to test if everything is ok ?
[02:01] <Xteven> for example a harddisk check
[02:02] <Xteven> or cpu test
[02:02] <Xteven> or sth
[02:02] <eegore> has anyone figure how to speed up the mouse scan rate to improve gaming performance?
[02:02] <sethk> Xteven, badblocks scans a hard disk for (guess what) bad blocks
[02:02] <nozorro> Xteven: best test for the cpu is running the compiler :-)
[02:02] <sethk> Xteven, hdparm has some diagnostics
[02:02] <Xteven> sethk : yup, but I was wondering if there is maybe a toolset, on a bootable cd :)
[02:02] <eegore> this is in dapper
[02:02] <sethk> Xteven, the smartmontools packages installs programs to help you use the SMART feature of most newer drives
[02:02] <mutk> smartctl to check SMART capable HD's
[02:03] <sethk> Xteven, I have one I put together myself, but there may well be better ones'a around
[02:03] <sethk> s/one's/ones/
[02:03] <Xteven> nice :)
[02:03] <Xteven> I was wondering if anyone knew such a thing
[02:03] <Xteven> before I start googling
[02:04] <sethk> Xteven, I made mine initially for backing up windows partitions without running windows
[02:04] <sethk> Xteven, then I added diagnostics when I found them
[02:04] <strafe_> I'm having issues with xgl (using automatixbleeder)
[02:04] <strafe_> it wont start
[02:04] <Flannel> strafe_: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:04] <strafe_> cool
[02:04] <Xteven> sethk : cool
[02:04] <Xteven> I might add an image on my serverinstall cd aswell
[02:05] <Xteven> sounds like a valueable thing
[02:05] <sethk> Xteven, the syslinux/isolinux software makes it easy to create a bootable cd
[02:05] <ShdwShinobi> When I try to run TvTime on ubuntu it just closes. It gives me the following error if I run it from bash: xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[02:05] <ShdwShinobi> Would anyone know what's wrong?
[02:06] <jesus> change the YUY2 format
[02:06] <ShdwShinobi> How would I do that?
[02:06] <odla> what is the name of the home icon and is it stored in /usr/share/pixmaps?
[02:06] <Xteven> http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
[02:06] <Xteven> fyi ;)
[02:06] <SaitoHajime> does anyone try playing planeshift with ATI driver ? -__-
[02:07] <Xteven> it contains tons of diagnostics utils
[02:07] <Renan_s2> !cinelerra
[02:07] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html#ubuntu
[02:07] <Xteven> sethk : yeah, I already have a memtest86 on it
[02:07] <sethk> Xteven, k
[02:07] <nozorro> odla: it should be in /usr/share/icons somewhere
[02:08] <nozorro> odla: also depends on the icon them you're using
[02:08] <nozorro> *theme
[02:09] <Radmin> Anyone know a good step by step for setting an ubuntu mail server?
[02:10] <Sanne> bye all
[02:10] <nozorro> odla: for instance /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/filesystems/gnome/gnome-fs-home.png
[02:10] <jerware> if a moving a hardlink from one file system to another, and referencing it to what it points to is invalid,  what does a hardlink have in advantage over a symbolic link ?
[02:11] <zoidberg> guys how do i found out my ip addres?
[02:11] <nozorro> odla: no, usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/filesystems/gnome-fs-home.png
[02:11] <Radmin> zoid, go to console and type ifconfig
[02:11] <jerware> ifconfig
[02:11] <rubenturner> zoidberg:ifconfig
[02:12] <Deeah> When I add a user in System/Administration/Users, and I put in the username/name/password(twice) after I click "OK", the user shows up on the list, but when I click close, the user isn't there anymore when I reopen.
[02:12] <zoidberg> can anyone tell me how to find out my IP Address?
[02:12] <Xteven> zoidberg : ifconfig </completeness>
[02:12] <jazzrocker> the current state of themes/icons/etc on *nix is way too crappy... especially icons
[02:12] <Xteven> or "ip a"
[02:14] <SaitoHajime> there is a lack of artists in free software world jazzrocker =/
[02:14] <jazzrocker> SaitoHajime, yes i've noticed
[02:14] <nozorro> jazzrocker: it's hundred's of lil pixmaps, maybe you can help :-
[02:14] <ShdwShinobi> jesus, how would I change the YUY2 format?
[02:14] <rubenturner> jazzrocker the still life icon theme is very nice
[02:14] <rubenturner> but not complete btw..
[02:14] <jazzrocker> nozorro, since when did a hundred of lil' somethings stop anyone from writing bloatware like KDE or emacs
[02:14] <sysdoc> fsck on next boot?
[02:15] <Homer> I believe in Emacs!
[02:15] <nozorro> jazzrocker: and the two things are related how?
[02:15] <jazzrocker> rubenturner, meh, there are a couple nice ones, but none of them are complete or fully functional
[02:15] <Crippy-Boy> Itd be nice if someone set up a site like sourceforge where people can post their work under different licenses so people can use it
[02:15] <Crippy-Boy> For graphics work i mean :-)
[02:15] <jazzrocker> nozorro, don't worry about how. if you can't wrap your head around that one i don't know how to explain it any more clearly.
[02:15] <Homer> jazzrocker, so make your own icon set :p
[02:16] <jazzrocker> Homer, i'm a sh8tty artist :(
[02:16] <jazzrocker> pro musician. bad artist.
[02:17] <nozorro> jazzrocker: it just seems to me that there's a lot of repetitive work involved. ask jimmac if you can help :-)
[02:17] <profoX`> Does anyone know why this script doesnt work when I want to pipe its output to zenity? Without line 15 and 34 everything works.. but I want to get that zenity thing.. can someone help me? check this bash script: http://pastebin.ca/165587
[02:18] <jazzrocker> nozorro, and that work is any less repetetive than writing many thousands or millions of lines of code and compiling and recompiling and testing and debugging and refactoring etc etc and so forth?
[02:18] <jazzrocker> nozorro, who's jimmac and what does he do?
[02:19] <nozorro> jazzrocker: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/icons.php
[02:19] <eigenlambda> lol... swiftfox
[02:19] <eigenlambda> i can't believe people take that seriously
[02:19] <nozorro> jazzrocker: i think he's gnome's main icon artist nowadays. also involved in tango
[02:20] <jazzrocker> nozorro, ahhh... as I said... i am a bad artist
[02:20] <shite> Linux king 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:20] <rixth> Linux king 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:20] <sethk> profoX`, the loop looks like it is making lists of something, directories that have no mp3s, or whatever.  But this list doesn't go to standard output, so it doesn't become input to zenity
[02:21] <nixternal> why do people incist on freakin' ctcp pings?
[02:21] <jacie> Can someone in here help me???
[02:21] <jazzrocker> nixternal, you can refuse/block those ya know (iirc)
[02:21] <sethk> !ask
[02:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:21] <jazzrocker> jacie, not until you ask your question
[02:21] <jerware> are there any gcc users in here ?
[02:21] <nixternal> i would rather i see them..so i know who to k/b for being an idiot
[02:21] <jazzrocker> jerware, i'm sure there are in ##c
[02:21] <SaitoHajime> profoX`, don't you need to include the zenity line in the loop?
[02:21] <jazzrocker> jerware, and #gcc to boot
[02:21] <jacie> i just installed ubuntu and i don't know where to find my 2nd hard drive
[02:22] <jerware> this is not a C programming idiosycrasy
[02:22] <sethk> jerware, sure.  what's the question?
[02:22] <tizwon> Anyone know how to properly install .pcf Fonts on ubuntu? i want to use a certain font with xterm to get the full effect of ansi
[02:22] <jerware> why did i have to manually create a link to gcc-4.0 ?
[02:22] <profoX`> SaitoHajime: no, for example, this works: (for x in 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 ; do echo $x ; sleep 1; done)|zenity --progress
[02:22] <jerware> and why am i getting error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[02:22] <sethk> jerware, what link did you create?
[02:22] <jerware> stdio.h  is a standard library header.
[02:22] <hobophobe> are there bootable ubuntu cds?
[02:22] <hobophobe> like live cds
[02:23] <jerware> ln -s gcc-4.0 gcc   in  /usr/bin
[02:23] <ShdwShinobi> Yeah
[02:23] <sethk> Jeruvy, no, don't do that
[02:23] <ShdwShinobi> The install cd is a live cd
[02:23] <jacie> can someone help me to find my second hard drive i don't know where it is on here
[02:23] <sethk> jerware, don't do that
[02:23] <Rug> Can I just copy the files from /var/lib/mysql/* to "backup" mysql?
[02:23] <jerware> sethk:  but apt-get  doesent create the necessary
[02:23] <sethk> jerware, you have a mixed up installation now, only part of version 4 is installed, and you stepped on the one that's installed properly
[02:23] <hobophobe> can you modify it to do some sort of intro maybe play a video and stuff, to teach people about freedom and anti-drm, for october 3rd?
[02:23] <sethk> jerware, apt-get isn't supposed to
[02:23] <Rug> jacie: sure no problem
[02:23] <ShdwShinobi> jacie, your harddrive should be in /dev, most likely something like /dev/hdb1
[02:23] <jerware> apt-get install gcc-4.0,  gcc-4.0-base  and the docs
[02:24] <jerware> sethk:  what am i then missing?
[02:24] <jacie> where would i type that at exactly?
[02:24] <jerware> i cant even bring up man pages to library and system calls
[02:24] <sethk> jerware, when you have multiple gcc versions, you have to use the installed gcc at the path that it is installed to, so it finds the corresponding headers and libraries
[02:24] <ShdwShinobi> well, are you trying to mount it?
[02:24] <sethk> jerware, I install from source, so I'm not sure of the package names, but presumably they will have 4.0 in the name
[02:24] <gfxstyler_> hi
[02:24] <jerware> sethk:  oh am i missing the path to /usr/lib or what ever in $path  ?
[02:24] <gfxstyler_> does edgy use xorg 7.1 ?
[02:25] <sethk> jerware, no, unlikely
[02:25] <BarryAllen> hi all, anyone running any app java based (graphical) at ubuntu?
[02:25] <BarryAllen> quotes does not works for me
[02:25] <jerware> so you're recomending that  i install gcc from source ?
[02:25] <sethk> jerware, not necessarily, no
[02:25] <BarryAllen> i tryed 2 different applications.... zend php editor and another mame front end....
[02:26] <sethk> jerware, but version 4.0 is old and buggy, either uses a later v4, or v3
[02:26] <jerware> how is 4.0 different from v4   ?
[02:26] <sethk> jerware, 4.0 is the first version 4 major release.  4.1 is the second, etc.
[02:26] <gfxstyler_> 4.0 is old? lol
[02:26] <AlphaFaction> Hi guys, I have just upgraded from breazy to dapper and now my external usb Fat 32 harddrive is showing up as a write protected file system. Anyone heard of this problem before or have any suggestions for things i could try?
[02:27] <sethk> jerware, I'm saying don't use 4.0, use the latest which I believe is 4.3 something
[02:27] <sethk> gfxstyler_, yes, nearly two years
[02:27] <gfxstyler_> and no, dont use the latest
[02:27] <jerware> ok
[02:27] <sethk> gfxstyler_, the latest works a hell of a lot better than 4.0
[02:27] <gfxstyler_> latest is not always the best
[02:27] <sethk> gfxstyler_, indeed, that's often true
[02:27] <sethk> gfxstyler_, but 4.0 is awful
[02:27] <gfxstyler_> and why do you think so
[02:28] <jerware> sethk:  those versions are not an installation candidate in apt
[02:28] <sethk> gfxstyler_, a lot of bugs in the threading code
[02:28] <jerware> oh i'll update
[02:28] <gfxstyler_> but i agree he should use 4.1 or back to the 3.x one
[02:28] <sethk> gfxstyler_, lots of seg faults during compiles of large amounts of source
[02:28] <luizluca> hello, I need some help me with kernel parameters to disable a pci device. A
[02:29] <sethk> gfxstyler_, yes, I agree, 4.1 is much more stable
[02:29] <czambran> the art work in edgy is great
[02:30] <tizwon> when is edgy going to be out :)
[02:30] <carlo> Hello again all ..
[02:30] <czambran> I downloaded Edgy Knot 2
[02:30] <gfxstyler_> it just seems that he doesnt know what gcc exactly is (or i think so, i missed most of the conversation, sorry if im wrong), and then he is supposed to compile the latest gcc from source :)
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> tizwon: october i believe
[02:31] <luizluca> hello people... anyone can help me with kernel parameters?
[02:31] <sethk> gfxstyler_, I didn't say he should compile from source.  I said I don't know the package names because I compile from source
[02:31] <sethk> gfxstyler_, compiling gcc from source is not exactly difficult
[02:31] <jerware> sethk:  where did you get your man pages for library and system C calls ?
[02:31] <gfxstyler_> sethk: then sorry, just joined the channel
[02:32] <sethk> jerware, I'll check the package name for that
[02:32] <jerware> thanx pal
[02:32] <AlphaFaction>  Hi guys, I have just upgraded from breazy to dapper and now my external usb Fat 32 harddrive is showing up as a write protected file system. Anyone heard of this problem before or have any suggestions for things i could try?
[02:33] <Hovertruck> Hey, I'm a complete Linux noob who needs help installing. If anyone has some free time, that'd be great. Thanks. <_<
[02:33] <sethk> jerware, package is:  manpages-posix-dev
[02:33] <gfxstyler_> AlphaFaction: you have to add your gid and uid to the /etc/fstab file, in the mount options
[02:33] <jacie_> when i go into dev to i guess my 2nd hard drive which is hdb it has a box with a x and won't let me in it i'm so totally confused which thing in the dev folder is my sec hard drive?
[02:33] <AlphaFaction> gfxstyler_: thanks mate, appreciate it
[02:34] <jerware> thanx you
[02:34] <gfxstyler_> AlphaFaction: but wait, is it even listed in the /etc/fstab?
[02:34] <Hovertruck> I feel stupid for having to ask, but what exactly do I have to type in the terminal to run a program? <_<
[02:34] <AlphaFaction> gfxstyler_: Nah i dont think it is mate, I just let HAL take care of it
[02:35] <apecat> mm, anybody else having problems with ati's proprietary cr.. er drivers and xvideo? i'm getting deformed video in every xvideo app
[02:35] <jrib> Hovertruck: the name of the binary (as long as it is in your PATH it should work)
[02:35] <gfxstyler_> apecat: do you use xgl ?
[02:35] <apecat> gfxstyler_: nope
[02:36] <eegore> how do you check what version of xorg is running
[02:36] <Milktea> I installed sun-java5-jdk
[02:36] <Milktea> But BlueJ's install thing doesn't pick it up
[02:36] <jrib> Hovertruck: like gedit for example is 'gedit' without the quotes, and that runs /usr/bin/gedit probably
[02:36] <RawSewage> is there a way to compare 2 folders using md5sum
[02:36] <apecat> gfxstyler_: i wouldnt touch xgl with an ati card
[02:36] <BarryAllen> nobody knows anything about double quotes issues with java + ubuntu ?
[02:36] <Hovertruck> It keeps saying that's an unknown command. This is all really confusing. <_< I'm in the correct directory, and I type "aim" and it's not running
[02:36] <Milktea> Dose anyone know where it's normally installed to
[02:36] <gfxstyler_> eegore: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for example, or maybe in synaptic
[02:36] <gfxstyler_> apecat: why not?
[02:36] <jacie_> can someone please help me find my second hard drive in dev folder?
[02:36] <jrib> Hovertruck: it's 'gaim', or are you really trying to get aol instant messenger to work on linux?
[02:37] <Hovertruck> I downloaded AIM off the AIM website ( THe linux version ) because GAIM won't let me get on my screen name.
[02:37] <gfxstyler_> apecat: do you have "VideoOverlay" "on" in your xorg.conf at Section "Device" ?
[02:37] <Hovertruck> I know, it's weird. =/
[02:37] <vicscandl> does the software update download via torrent?
[02:37] <gfxstyler_> vicscandl: no
[02:38] <vicscandl> i'm getting sick bitrates from a cable modem.
[02:38] <jrib> Hovertruck: yeah, that's weird.  But aim from the aol website is not really worth it.  I could never get it to run because it seems to use old libraries.  Why don't you try some other client?  Maybe kopete?
[02:38] <Hovertruck> Kopete works with AIM?
[02:38] <Milktea> yes it does
[02:38] <Hovertruck> Oh.
[02:38] <Hovertruck> I'll try that.
[02:38] <isos> Hello there
[02:38] <Hovertruck> Sorry for wasting your time. >_>
[02:38] <Milktea> Dose anyone know where sun-java5-jdk is normally installed to
[02:39] <isos> Guys, anyone knows how to define a modem in a laptop?
[02:39] <jacie_> can someone please tell me where in dev is my sec hard drive?
[02:39] <apecat> gfxstyler_: yes it's on. and the xgl thing; i don't have any good experience of ati's drivers
[02:39] <jrib> !dialup > isos
[02:39] <isos> yes
[02:39] <vicscandl> time is never wasted, just destroyed to never return... ;'P
[02:39] <gfxstyler_> apecat: what ati card do you have?
[02:39] <isos> for dialup
[02:39] <SaitoHajime> profoX`, what's exactly the problem with your script?
[02:39] <gfxstyler_> apecat: there are also opensource ati drivers with 3d support
[02:39] <grimboy> jacie_, Type di then do ls /dev/hd* your second hd is the one that didn't show up in di
[02:40] <nozorro> Milktea: /usr/lib/jvm
[02:40] <Milktea> thanks
[02:40] <jacie_> grimboy where do i type that stuff?
[02:40] <apecat> gfxstyler_: radeon 9700
[02:40] <gfxstyler_> apecat: on xorg 7.1 they beat the hell out of the proprietary ones (except shader stuff)
[02:40] <apecat> mmk
[02:40] <gfxstyler_> apecat: that card is supported, too
[02:41] <apecat> hmm kewl
[02:41] <grimboy> jacie_, Open up a terminal window
[02:41] <mrbayHU> hello everyone
[02:41] <gfxstyler_> apecat: edgy uses xorg 7.1 i think, so you can have opensourced + better drivers soon
[02:41] <grimboy> Hey mrbayHU
[02:41] <mrbayHU> can anyone tell me how can i change the collation set of my mysql, which i've installed from a package?
[02:41] <apecat> well i just used these ati drives in the ubuntu repos
[02:41] <gfxstyler_> which also work with xgl/aiglx/compiz
[02:41] <apecat> gfxstyler_: heh ok, i'm lookign forward to that then
[02:42] <Crippy-Boy> There's decent drivers for the 7600GS right?
[02:42] <lappy> how do i ask a support question?
[02:42] <Milktea> nozorro: I don't have that directory
[02:42] <Milktea> o.0
[02:43] <Crippy-Boy> lappy: Just ask?
[02:43] <sethk> lappy, you type it, and hit the enter key
[02:43] <lappy> thx c-b
[02:43] <apecat> blasrgh, booting back to micorsfot win-dos on the desktop until edgy, then ;(. Thanks for the info though
[02:43] <gfxstyler_> apecat: the thing is, the opensource ones support aiglx where i think the proprietary ones dont, and thus, with the right xorg.conf settings, they are a lot of faster (i have a radeon mobility 9600)
[02:43] <jacie_> grimboy it says bash: di: command not found?
[02:43] <nozorro> Milktea: i misread you question, sorry. my answer was valid for jre's only.
[02:43] <lappy> running 'df' ... getting 'Segmentation fault' ...
[02:43] <Milktea> oh
[02:43] <Milktea> I'm looking for JDK
[02:43] <gfxstyler_> apecat: and aiglx is part of xorg 7.1 (out of the box)
[02:43] <apecat> whoop, well edgy it is then :)
[02:43] <isos> guys I am checking the DialupModemHowto ... but the problem is that I can't identify the type of modem I have. I have a laptop and I quit windows long time ago and have been accessing the internet using a LAN
[02:43] <nozorro> Milktea: have you installed already?
[02:43] <sethk> lappy, df is seg faulting?  that's bizarre
[02:43] <grimboy> jacie_, sudo apt-get install di
[02:43] <Milktea> yes
[02:44] <bakura> buenas como estan?
[02:44] <sethk> lappy, is this a new installation?
[02:44] <Milktea> i installed sun-java5-jdk
[02:44] <bakura> teng un problema con mi so
[02:44] <lappy> 2 months old .. been doing some torrents .. moving files around
[02:44] <jrib> !es
[02:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:44] <grimboy> grimboy, (sorry I didn't realise it wasn't installed with ubuntu)
[02:44] <isos> and so I don't have the CDs which came with the laptop for defining it's hardwares
[02:44] <RawSewage> why do I get Permission Denied when I run  find . -type f -print0 >/foosums
[02:44] <jacie_> grimboy it asked for a password?
[02:44] <nozorro> Milktea: maybe update the locate db for an easy search with locate
[02:44] <grimboy> What, I'm talking to myself
[02:44] <sethk> lappy, sounds like you replaced an important shared library with a bogus one
[02:44] <Milktea> How do I do that?
[02:44] <isos> anyone have a suggestion on how to identify my modem type?
[02:45] <jrib> RawSewage: you probably don't have permission to write to /foosums?
[02:45] <grimboy> jacie_, Yeah, just enter your account password
[02:45] <nozorro> Milktea: or use synaptic
[02:45] <spooon> So, I'm thinking of switching distros, and tried out the livecd. It hangs on boot with a, "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 8..." error. Any ideas?
[02:45] <jacie_> ok
[02:45] <sethk> grimboy, don't worry unless you start to disagree with yourself
[02:45] <gfxstyler_> Milktea: slocate -u
[02:45] <Milktea> thanks
[02:45] <gfxstyler_> as root
[02:45] <nozorro> Milktea: 'sudo updatedb' when done, 'locate <searchstring>'
[02:45] <grimboy> sethk, Heh.
[02:45] <bakura> buenas a todos
[02:45] <Crippy-Boy> Are there decent drivers for Nvidia 7600GS? (im thinking of buying one to replace my ati x800)
[02:45] <lappy> sethk .. anyway to 'fix' it?
[02:45] <jacie_> grimboy says reading package lists done, building dependancy tree done, E: Couldn't find package di
[02:46] <sethk> lappy, it's not easy.  we can probably figure out which library was trashed
[02:46] <lappy> also .. 'df' on another drive also gives 'segmentaiton fault'
[02:46] <RawSewage> jrib, theres no special permissions on i
[02:46] <sethk> lappy, I would expect it to not matter which partition the df refers to
[02:46] <isos> anyone knows how can I identify the type of the modem I have in my laptop?
[02:46] <sethk> lappy, what happens if you just run df  (by itself, no arguments)?
[02:46] <sethk> isos, lspci
[02:47] <lappy> 'seg fault'
[02:47] <jrib> RawSewage: do you have write permission to /foosums if it already exists or to / if it doesn't yet exist?
[02:47] <lappy> same
[02:47] <jrib> RawSewage: it's going in /, not sure if you realize that
[02:47] <isos> sethk: it's not defined yet
[02:47] <jrib> RawSewage: see if it works with > ~/foosums instead
[02:47] <grimboy> jacie_, New plan, do cat /etc/fstab
[02:47] <isos> I am trying to identify it so I can define it
[02:47] <sethk> isos, what isn't defined yet?
[02:48] <gfxstyler_> isos: lspci | grep Modem     maybe
[02:48] <RawSewage> jrib, ok
[02:48] <isos> the modem
[02:48] <RawSewage> jrib, I think that worked
[02:48] <Radmin> Anyone else having trouble accessing the english ubuntu forum?
[02:48] <sethk> isos, lspci shows you the devices that are active on the pci bus.  it has nothing to do with "defining" your modem, whatever you think that means.
[02:48] <amit1> yeh i am
[02:48] <baconbacon> it seems down
[02:48] <isos> gfxstyler: it outputted nothing
[02:48] <lappy> isos, do a search on the laptop vendor's site ...
[02:49] <Milktea> nozorro: I got a bunch of /usr/share/doc, then /doc-base then /lintian/overrides then /omf (all in /usr/share)
[02:49] <Radmin> Dang...If I only knew Chinese
[02:49] <Milktea> which should i use
[02:49] <jacie_> grimboy nothing happend just says /etc/fstab
[02:49] <gfxstyler_> isos: whats the name of the windows drivers (of the modem)
[02:49] <nozorro> Milktea: use synaptic
[02:49] <Milktea> ok
[02:49] <Radmin> whoohoo, forum is back up!!!
[02:49] <spooon> Ring a bell with anyone? "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region"
[02:49] <Radmin> Or it just took a really long time.
[02:50] <nozorro> Milktea: select installed package in list and then Installed Files tab below
[02:50] <amit1> has anyone been able to run MS office 2003 using WINE?
[02:50] <grimboy> jacie_, are you sure, try typing in exacly (without speech marks) "cat /etc/fstab" if that doesn't work try typing in "nano /etc/fstab"
[02:50] <Exclamation> hi, i have this problem: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2412 . could someone help me patch alsa?
[02:51] <lappy> sethk .. how do i re-obtain the missing library?  is there an apt-get rebuild/update command i can use?
[02:51] <Phusion> so, I'm trying to install Ubuntu desktop on some very old, crappy laptop, and after the LiveCD load screen does its "adding livecd user" I get this message and a hang: Uncompressing Linux, Ok booting Kernel. ACPI: Vendor "INT440" System "Sysfexxx" Revision 0x1001 has a known ACPI BIOS problem. reason does not use _REG to protect EC OpRegions. This is a non-recoverable error
[02:51] <jacie_> grimboy it worked! Now what?
[02:51] <Phusion> any clues? do I have to update bios? am I screwed?
[02:51] <amit1> how old of a laptop phusion
[02:51] <gfxstyler_> Phusion: you could try to boot with the noapic and noapci option
[02:52] <Phusion> quite old, not sure though amit1
[02:52] <grimboy> jacie_, Write down the thing that starts with /dev that is next to mount point /
[02:52] <Phusion> its a win98 machine
[02:52] <amit1> i would say do what gfxstyler said
[02:52] <sethk> Phusion, does the bios allow you to turn power save stuff off?
[02:52] <sethk> Phusion, if so, do it.  also do what gfxstyler said
[02:52] <amit1> napic and noapci, worked for me once
[02:52] <Phusion> gfxstyler_:  so in boot options just add noacpi?
[02:52] <grimboy> jacie_, You might want to tell me it as well so I can check it's right.
[02:52] <isos> gfxstyler_: I dunno .. I don't have windows .. I quit it long time ago
[02:52] <amit1> isos, how do you survive!?
[02:53] <jacie_> grimboy you mean in type section?
[02:53] <Dimensions> hi how can i change size of desktop icons smaller ?
[02:53] <gfxstyler_> lappy: you could try ldd df in /usr/bin
[02:53] <sethk> isos, lspci will show you what modem you have, if the modem is enabled and working
[02:53] <gfxstyler_> to see what libraries it wants
[02:53] <jbroome> !resolution ? Dimensions
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolution ? Dimensions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <isos> how do I survive ??!!
[02:53] <jacie_> grimboy, or like hdb1?
[02:53] <amit1> lol
[02:53] <gfxstyler_> Phusion: yeah
[02:53] <isos> the modem isn't enabled and isn't working
[02:53] <grimboy> jacie_, Yeah! That's probably it
[02:53] <Dimensions> lol
[02:53] <Phusion> ok
[02:53] <Dimensions> !resolution
[02:53] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:53] <Phusion> dont think I can disable acpi in bios unfortunatly
[02:53] <sethk> isos, in that case, who cares what it is?
[02:53] <isos> and I want to enable it and have it work that's why I am asking
[02:53] <Phusion> holy shit 366mhz
[02:53] <grimboy> jacie_, Now type in ls "/dev/*"
[02:54] <sethk> Phusion, try the kernel command line flags that gfxstyler_ suggested to turn those features off in the kernel
[02:54] <gfxstyler_> Dimensions: you have to do that in the nautilus file browser
[02:54] <grimboy> jacie_, I mean "ls /dev/*"
[02:54] <Vegeta> What is the command for remote login to a remote server through ssh? isn't something like "ssh <hostname> <username>"?
[02:54] <xHitSx> brasil????
[02:54] <sethk> Vegeta, ssh username@hostname
[02:54] <grimboy> Vegeta, user@host
[02:54] <amit1> ssh <hostname> -l <username> i think
[02:54] <gfxstyler_> lappy: so do this: ldd /usr/bin/df
[02:54] <Ademan> you don't have to do the user@host syntax
[02:54] <sethk> Vegeta, the -l syntax works also
[02:54] <gfxstyler_> lappy: and then check if you have those installed
[02:54] <amit1> or that
[02:54] <lappy> df is in /bin
[02:54] <Vegeta> ok
[02:54] <Ademan> amit1's way works too
[02:54] <xHitSx> como entro no chat brasileiro?
[02:54] <bakura> no pude conectarme con el server en espaol
[02:54] <Dimensions> gfxstyler_: how ? i have my browser opened already
[02:55] <isos> ok, I'll make it simple .. I want to use dial-up, I went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto and first thing I need to do is to Identifying the type of modem that I am using and installing its driver
[02:55] <tronic> question: how do i make make?
[02:55] <jacie_> grimboy alot of stuff came on the screen
[02:55] <grimboy> jacie_, Sorry losing the plot here, I mean "ls /dev/hd*"
[02:55] <gfxstyler_> Dimensions: open up the preferences
[02:55] <Ademan> tronic: hahahaha
[02:55] <jbroome> tronic: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:55] <amit1> isos, are u using a winmodem?
[02:55] <spooon> Still no takers? "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region" error on livecd boot.
[02:55] <gfxstyler_> Dimensions: and then change the "Default zoom level"
[02:55] <isos> what is that amit1?
[02:55] <tronic> where is the file build-essential on the web
[02:55] <Phusion> how do I change the boot options? I can see them but how do I edit 'em?
[02:55] <amit1> a modem without its own chipset
[02:55] <amit1> or processor
[02:55] <tronic> i can't find a singular build-essential file on ubuntu packages
[02:55] <jacie_> grimboy okay now what
[02:55] <tronic> jbroome
[02:55] <Ademan> Phusion: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:55] <isos> it's a laptop
[02:55] <amit1> made to run with windows through software
[02:55] <Phusion> its not installed yet
[02:55] <bakura> help?
[02:56] <vasi> tronic: build-essential is a package
[02:56] <gfxstyler_> Phusion: when you instert the cd you should see a prompt
[02:56] <Ademan> Phusion: oh, you're running a liveCD?
[02:56] <Phusion> "start or install ubuntu"
[02:56] <tronic> i can't find the package
[02:56] <vasi> tronic: do you wish to install it? or what?
[02:56] <Phusion> and it shows me the boot options, how do I edit 'em?
[02:56] <tronic> i do and i can't find the file:'build-essential' on the web really i can't
[02:56] <vasi> you don't have to download it yourself, you can just 'apt-get install build-essential'
[02:56] <tronic> yes i wish to install it
[02:56] <grimboy> jacie_, What is there that doesn't begin with hdb?
[02:56] <jbroome> tronic: are you running ubuntu?
[02:56] <lappy> i did an  ldd /bin/df           .. and checked those files.. they are there
[02:56] <Ademan> tronic: you can do it from synaptic, you don't hafta go find the file
[02:56] <tronic> i'm not connected vasi
[02:56] <isos> it used to work on windows ... came with the driver CD but I lost it ...
[02:56] <gfxstyler_> lappy: on my system its in /usr/bin, but im not running ubuntu at the moment
[02:56] <tronic> ademan i'm not connected
[02:56] <jacie_> grimboy hda hdc hdc1
[02:57] <iceman> isos what problem
[02:57] <vasi> tronic:  look on packages.ubuntu.com then
[02:57] <isos> since I moved "completely" to ubuntu I never had to use dial-up till now ...
[02:57] <gfxstyler_> Phusion: are you not able to type them in ?
[02:57] <viator> anyone ever able to get those vidoes on the myspace front page toever work
[02:57] <isos> iceman : I need to use dial-up
[02:57] <Ademan> tronic: eewwww.... uh... i guess you hafta grab it on another computer and burn it to a cd? (it might fit on a floppy i don't know)
[02:57] <xHitSx> como entro no brasileiro?
[02:57] <Phusion> no.. dont think so
[02:57] <grimboy> jacie_, Huh, that's a problem do you have any usb drives in the computer or have 3 hard disks?
[02:57] <nozorro> !pt
[02:57] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:57] <vasi> tronic: but you'll have to manually download all the dependencies!
[02:57] <tronic> right i think i haven't been there
[02:57] <tronic> i may be back
[02:57] <gfxstyler_> isos: do you know what kind of laptop you have?
[02:57] <sethk> isos,  you aren't listening.  if the physical modem device exists and is working, lspci will show it.  you DO NOT have to configure the o/s for the modem.
[02:57] <Phusion> I should just be able to start typing when the livecd first starts, when it asks if you wanna memtest or install?
[02:58] <isos> and the problem is that I don't know what type of modems I have so I can install it's driver
[02:58] <viator> ive got every package i can think of and even hacked on flas
[02:58] <isos> LG
[02:58] <spooon> What kernel version is included with the latest livecd?
[02:58] <viator> to mke it so i can play flash 9
[02:58] <sethk> isos, you do not have to do _any_ configuration.  lspci simply prints what's active on the pci bus.
[02:58] <viator> sometimes
[02:58] <jacie_> grimboy I have 1 cdrw and 2 hd's
[02:58] <sethk> isos, if you have a modem it _will_ show up in lspci
[02:58] <ArgentinoVLC> #ubuntu-es
[02:58] <iceman> what type of system ?
[02:58] <Phusion> oh there we go
[02:58] <Phusion> F6
[02:58] <sethk> isos, so just run the damn command instead of thinking it won't work, because it will work
[02:58] <ArgentinoVLC> please ubuntu in spanish???????????????????''
[02:58] <nozorro> !es
[02:58] <isos> sorry sethk for missunderstanding you
[02:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:58] <sethk> !ex
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <PeanutHorst> hi I'm about to try Ubuntu 6,06 - is there anything i should know?
[02:58] <gfxstyler_> sethk: lol
[02:59] <ArgentinoVLC> #ubuntu-es
[02:59] <amit1> peanuthorst, its good
[02:59] <isos> I ran the moment you told me but I can't find the modem yet
[02:59] <ArgentinoVLC> #edubuntu-es
[02:59] <PeanutHorst> and will it detect my S3 TRIO64V+ video card? and ESS 1968 audio card?
[02:59] <viator> does this video work for you http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=972767288
[02:59] <iceman> what kind of a computer
[02:59] <gfxstyler_> PeanutHorst: yes, you should know that there is 6.06.1 already :)
[02:59] <grimboy> jacie_, Ah, of course, the thing you're interested in is hdc1. Do you know how to mount it? Do you want it to mount automatically at startup and appear on your desktop?
[02:59] <nozorro> ArgentinoVLC: '/join #ubuntu-es'
[02:59] <Thiagovfar> Is there any channel in portuguese?
[02:59] <jacie_> grimboy yes
[02:59] <nozorro> !pt
[02:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:59] <jacie_> :)
[02:59] <PeanutHorst> gfxstyler_: i'm not wasting my bandwidth on ubuntu
[03:00] <Dimensions> gfxstyler_: now their names are over lapping each other ...
[03:00] <viator> cant think of whats missing on this box
[03:00] <jacie_> grimboy, i'm alittle new to ubuntu plus i'm a ditsy gal lol
[03:00] <PeanutHorst> the only reason i'm even TRYING a version after 5.1 is because it may be my last hope for some "vintage" hardware
[03:00] <iceman> isos what brand of a computer
[03:00] <gfxstyler_> PeanutHorst: ??? you would have to update to those packages anyway
[03:00] <Thiagovfar> obrigado (thanks)
[03:00] <Thiagovfar> #ubuntu-br
[03:00] <isos> what do u mean iceman?
[03:00] <PeanutHorst> gfxstyler_: i don't even have a net connection on that box
[03:00] <gfxstyler_> Dimensions: you could try to set the text besides the icons in the preferences panel
[03:01] <nozorro> Thiagovfar: use '/join #ubuntu-br'
[03:01] <grimboy> jacie_, Is that a windows hard disk? Where does it come from?
[03:01] <iceman> isos dell, gateway, compaq and whitebox ?
[03:01] <gfxstyler_> PeanutHorst: thats bad
[03:01] <amit1> peanut, if it vintage, why not use another distro
[03:01] <Dimensions> that doesn't work i already tried it gfxstyler_
[03:01] <gfxstyler_> PeanutHorst: well its a live cd so you can see if it works by just booting it
[03:01] <yango__> what's the regexp package for ant?
[03:01] <bakura> i have the problem
[03:01] <amit1> like vector linux or damn small linux
[03:01] <gfxstyler_> Dimensions: you can also manually scale each desktop icon, but that method sucks
[03:01] <isos> LG
[03:01] <jacie_> grimboy, i have no idea, should i look what kind of brand it is?
[03:01] <shut-> did ubuntu update yet
[03:01] <gfxstyler_> Dimensions: its nautilus?s fault
[03:01] <shut-> :P
[03:01] <Thiagovfar> [nozorro] : sorry, I just forgot that
[03:01] <iceman> isos  ?
[03:01] <grimboy> jacie_, Sorry, what I mean is - is the hard disk new?
[03:02] <Dimensions> gfxstyler_: thanks but rather i removed compact layout which worked :) thanks buddy
[03:02] <yango__> the standard ant package doesn't have the regexpmapper mapper... I need to install the regexp jar for ant, and apt-cache search doesn't give any clues
[03:02] <jacie_> grimboy fairly
[03:02] <isos> I don't know what you are asking me
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> gfxstyler_: i'm an experienced l;inux user, i just don't like it when distros insult my intelligence
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> :P
[03:02] <bakura> ubuntu does not show hard dsks to me
[03:02] <gfxstyler_> PeanutHorst: if you are an experienced user and have enough time, you should try gentoo
[03:02] <grimboy> jacie_, Has it been used in a machine before? Or is it shop bought? Does it have data on it that you want to keep?
[03:02] <jacie_> grimboy, like all my music is on it thats why i want it so badly lol
[03:03] <iceman> isos is the computer a DELL or a Compaq, or a hewlett packard, what brand name .. geez
[03:03] <jacie_> grimboy yes it has been used before
[03:03] <gfxstyler_> PeanutHorst: and then you get tired of emerging and come back to ubuntu
[03:03] <amit1> lol
[03:03] <isos> sethk: would it be the Ethernet controller?
[03:03] <amit1> iceman
[03:03] <gfxstyler_> :D
[03:03] <sethk> PeanutHorst, I used an S3 card with ubuntu breezy two weeks ago, it worked fine.
[03:03] <gfxstyler_> like me
[03:03] <grimboy> jacie_, :D so it was used in a windows setup, right?
[03:03] <isos> I said LG
[03:03] <sethk> isos, no, that's network.  it will probably say communications controller
[03:03] <PeanutHorst> gfxstyler_: genpoo?
[03:03] <jacie_> grimboy yes :)
[03:03] <PeanutHorst> euh.
[03:03] <amit1> gfxstyler, whats another good distro to try out
[03:03] <grimboy> jacie_, With windows xp or 98?
[03:03] <jacie_> grimboy, xp home
[03:03] <iceman> isos lg ? what ? LG is the Type or model name.
[03:03] <amit1> slackware?
[03:03] <PeanutHorst> gfxstyler_: i mean slackware, lfs, and a nice little zenwalk box
[03:03] <Dimensions> any one know abt gprs modem connection .. i can connect using ttyACM0 my phone connects using usb cable on ohci_hcd which i dont know how to connect so i make each time node in /dev for ttyACM0 which vanishes on each reboot ....
[03:03] <iceman> isos what Brand ?
[03:04] <sethk> PeanutHorst, as I said, ubuntu will detect S3.  so will other distros, by the way.
[03:04] <gfxstyler_> amit1: i mainly use ubuntu or gentoo (or windows)
[03:04] <PeanutHorst> sethk: what about the ES1968 audio card?
[03:04] <gfxstyler_> amit1: i switch every few weeks :)
[03:04] <iceman> isos DELL, Compaq, HP, has to be some BRAND.
[03:04] <isos> LG
[03:04] <sethk> amit1, slackware is a good distro for servers.  debian is good.
[03:04] <isos> I ain't kidding
[03:04] <amit1> maybe i'll try gentoo
[03:04] <amit1> and see if i survive
[03:04] <sethk> PeanutHorst, I believe so, wait a moment and I'll check.
[03:04] <isos> that's what I know of my little knowlegde of hardwares ...
[03:05] <gfxstyler_> amit1: if the only reason to try gentoo is "speed" or "learning linux", dont do it
[03:05] <iceman> isos Google the LG then, thats LG is the Model, not the brand i think. once you figure out a Name Brand, then were half way there
[03:05] <gfxstyler_> amit1: its not worth it
[03:05] <vasi> ironically, my debian experiences lately have been more polished than ubuntu :-/
[03:05] <isos> I know I sound stupid and ignorant
[03:05] <amit1> then why is it worth it at all
[03:05] <isos> you mean something like intel?
[03:05] <sethk> PeanutHorst, yes, the 2.6 kernel has support for es1968
[03:05] <vasi> amit1: if you're running Gentoo to learn about linux, try Linux-From-Scratch instead
[03:05] <iceman> arnit1 Geento is the Edge of Linux, best realy know your stuff is you play there
[03:06] <vasi> it can be quite fun :-)
[03:06] <jacie_> grimboy, ya still with me?
[03:06] <sethk> amit1, gentoo teaches you about gentoo, not about unix or linux
[03:06] <grimboy> jacie_, Sorry wait a sec I'm just thinking about it.
[03:06] <gfxstyler_> amit1: i dont really know, but you spend 10 times longer on getting everything working than with ubuntu, and the little speed increase/customization isnt really worth that (in my opinion)
[03:06] <iceman> isos who Manufactured the Computer... never herd of a company called LG.
[03:06] <cynical> sethk: no it does teach you a lot about linux
[03:06] <jacie_> grimboy, no prob hate to be a pain in the butt ;)
[03:06] <gimmulf> What port does scp use?
[03:06] <amit1> yeh i've read up a little on gentoo, i would just try it on a spare PC
[03:06] <vasi> in gentoo's defense, it often has very cutting-edge packages
[03:06] <cynical> sethk: like partitioning without a gui :D
[03:06] <sethk> cynical, I disagree.  LFS is much better.
[03:06] <amit1> maybe linux from scratch would be better
[03:07] <sethk> cynical, I've been partitioning without a gui for 20 years, and I still partition without a gui.  what does that have to do with a distro?
[03:07] <cynical> sethk: maybe, but that doesnt mean gentoo doesnt teach you ANYTHING about linux
[03:07] <amit1> to learn more about linux
[03:07] <gfxstyler_> vasi: in the last week i?ve had more broken ebuilds than in the last few months
[03:07] <isos> Well .. all I know is that I have a LG computer
[03:07] <iceman> arnit1 i tried Gentoo one time, after waiting 4 hours for a Lousy installer, i gave up and went right back to ubuntu
[03:07] <cynical> sethK: *sigh* dont bother
[03:07] <Adam_G> Someone in here helped me out a couple days ago with a command that would tell me what process is blocking my soundcard. Anyone happen to know what it is? (I promise to write it down this time!)
[03:07] <vasi> gfxstyler_: i haven't done anything with gentoo for a month or two, compiling xorg takes way too long for my tastes :-)
[03:07] <sethk> cynical, I didn't mean that nothing to be taken literally
[03:07] <amit1> i wouldn't replace ubuntu, maybe try LFS to learn more
[03:07] <isos> the seller gave me 3 options: LG, HP and Acer
[03:08] <sethk> cynical, it was satirical
[03:08] <isos> I chose LG ... that's what I know
[03:08] <sethk> cynical, maybe even cynical
[03:08] <iceman> isos this a Laptop ?
[03:08] <cynical> sethk: lol k
[03:08] <isos> yes
[03:08] <Dimensions> lol Adam_G
[03:08] <isos> I said it's a laptop
[03:08] <vasi> Adam_G: maybe involving fuser?
[03:08] <sethk> isos, paste the output of lspci on the paste we site, we'll tell you what you have.
[03:08] <amit1> one thing i've noticed about ubuntu(linux) is how much quicker everything else is than a typical windows install
[03:08] <iceman> isos turn it over andlook at the Tag on the Bottom for a Manufacture.
[03:08] <Adam_G> vasi, yup, but I can't get it to work
[03:08] <amit1> no delay
[03:08] <grimboy> jacie_, Alright, Try typing "sudo mkdir /media/music_test"
[03:09] <isos> wait, I have to switch the light on :)
[03:09] <vasi> Adam_G: you know, you should be able to enable dmix with ALSA...so that way nothing can block your soundcard ever again :-)
[03:09] <amit1> and the performance doesnt bog down with time like in windows
[03:09] <Adam_G> vasi, sudo fuser -v /dev/audio, with various mixes of -v, -a, and -i all dont work...
[03:09] <isos> sethk: in a minute
[03:09] <gfxstyler_> amit1: for some very weird reason, it does on my system :P
[03:10] <bakura> i have not been able to enter the server spanihs of ubuntu help
[03:10] <amit1> i dual boot with winxp tablet edition
[03:10] <grimboy> jacie_, then "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /media/music_test"
[03:10] <vasi> Adam_G: are you sure it's a program blocking the card, and not a borked driver?
[03:10] <iceman> ok what number Lg laptop, there are several. my bag there is a LG manufacture ... sorry
[03:10] <sethk> amit1, there are occasionally apps on linux that chew up resources over time.  it's a lot easier to find and correct them in linux than in windows
[03:10] <isos> iceman: Manufacturer: LG Electronics INC
[03:10] <jacie_> grimboy, says cannot create directory file exists
[03:10] <sethk> amit1, you like the tablet?
[03:10] <iceman> isos what model number
[03:10] <vasi> if your sound driver is a module, you might want to try removing it and then modprobe'ing it again
[03:10] <shadowhywind> Hay i am having a werid problem, Linux boots up but the login screen doesn't show up, i just get a black screen. Its works randomly, any ideas?
[03:10] <karim> Alacarte sucks. The sad thing is that the name is French lol
[03:10] <amit1> yeh its pretty cool
[03:10] <amit1> of course i lost the freakin pen
[03:10] <isos> sethk: I can't select in konsole !!
[03:10] <amit1> so i need a new one
[03:10] <karim> can you give it another name ? I feel ashamed
[03:11] <gfxstyler_> alacarte is a piece of crap
[03:11] <isos> iceman: LS50
[03:11] <eugman> Can anyone tell me how to read a .jigdo file?
[03:11] <sethk> isos, do this:   lspci > outfile
[03:11] <Adam_G> vasi: it was working a half hour ago. I've suspend since then but I do that several times a day...
[03:11] <grimboy> jacie_, For the first one? In that case just do the second
[03:11] <gfxstyler_> its slow, and sometimes just corrupts the whole menu
[03:11] <sethk> isos, then use an editor to edit outfile, and paste the text onto the paste site
[03:11] <mat> gfxstyler_: file bugs :)
[03:11] <Adam_G> lol
[03:11] <jacie_> grimboy, lots of stuff came up now what?
[03:11] <iceman> isos google LG LS50, look for the Modem specks in the lists
[03:11] <gfxstyler_> mat: :)
[03:12] <vasi> Adam_G: well the likely suspects for blocking on your soundcard are esd and artsd
[03:12] <iceman> isos modem will be listed in a site google the modle number
[03:12] <isos> thanks iceman .. now trying to get the lspci output
[03:12] <vasi> so do a 'ps ax' and look for them
[03:12] <Dimensions> guys can any one by any means help me out ... i have been asking this from last one week ...
[03:12] <amit1> does anybodies hibernate actually work
[03:12] <shut-> when is ubuntu new one coming out
[03:12] <shadowhywind> mine works
[03:12] <iceman> isos sorry for losing my patients there :( not like me
[03:12] <Amaranth> gfxstyler_: gee, thanks
[03:12] <Dimensions> its abt gprs modem connection .. i can connect using ttyACM0 my phone connects using usb cable on ohci_hcd which i dont know how to connect so i make each time node in /dev for ttyACM0 which vanishes on each reboot ....
[03:12] <grimboy> jacie_, Like what? Errors? Go to "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/" and paste it in then submit it and paste the url after here.
[03:12] <shadowhywind> shut: next month unless it gets pushed back
[03:12] <nozorro> !schedule
[03:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:12] <shut-> since my ip1600 wont work
[03:12] <eugman> Can anyone tell me how to read a .jigdo file?
[03:12] <amit1> shadow, does it give a status bar or anything when its going into hibernation
[03:12] <Adam_G> kk, vasi, will do
[03:12] <isos> np
[03:13] <Amaranth> gfxstyler_: You can give me reproducible bugs are you can stop talking.
[03:13] <vasi> Adam_G: sorry i'm not more help :-/
[03:13] <Adam_G> it's NP
[03:13] <vasi> eugman: .jigdo is a text format, you can just use any text editor
[03:13] <iceman> isos here http://ca.lge.com/en/prodmodeldetail.do?actType=search&page=1&modelCategoryId=040202&categoryId=040202&parentId=0402&modelCodeDisplay=LS50-AE6U1&modelNameLocal=&model=Select+a+model
[03:13] <jacie_> grimboy, its not any errors its like saying stuff about mount device
[03:13] <shadowhywind> amit1: i don't remember hehe, i believe mine just turns black after a few moments, i hit the power button and it turns off
[03:13] <gfxstyler_> Amaranth: no, they appear random
[03:13] <isos> ok sethk got it out but can u give me the link in which I can paste the ouput?
[03:13] <isos> thanks iceman
[03:13] <isos> :)
[03:13] <vasi> eugman: if you want to download using a .jigdo file, you should 'apt-get install jigdo'
[03:13] <eugman> vasi, Ubuntu is telling me it's a bin file. And it also thinks it's an unreadable archive.
[03:14] <shut-> EdgyEft
[03:14] <shut-> that the new one
[03:14] <vasi> eugman: what does 'file foo.jigdo' give you?
[03:14] <shadowhywind> anyone have any ideas why my login screen appears at random?
[03:14] <iceman> isos np
[03:14] <eugman> Vasi, no I want to see what is on a cd by reading the jigdo file.
[03:14] <gfxstyler_> Amaranth: and because i can?t predict when its going to happen, i dont run alacarte in a terminal, so i cant see whats happening
[03:14] <amit1> hey anyone in here a computer engineer?
[03:14] <vasi> substituting the real name for 'foo' of course :-)
[03:14] <eugman> lemme hceck
[03:14] <jacie_> grimboy, do you still want me to type the copy and past the url?
[03:14] <vasi> amit1: i will be once i graduate ;-)
[03:14] <grimboy> jacie_, Hmm... Well if I don't know what it's saying then I'm not to sure but I'd say try typing in "cd /media/music_test"
[03:14] <amit1> vasi, what year are you in
[03:14] <isos> iceman: wasn't there a website in which we can paste stuff for IRCs?
[03:14] <amit1> in the USA?
[03:14] <eugman> Desktop/woody-i386-1.jigdo: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression
[03:15] <BHSPitMonkey> hi
[03:15] <iceman> isos pastebin
[03:15] <iceman> !pastebin
[03:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:15] <eugman> !pastebin
[03:15] <vasi> amit1: i'm in canada....uh, it's the equivalent of 'junior' year in the US
[03:15] <eugman> whoops
[03:15] <iceman> isos http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:15] <grimboy> jacie_, Yeah doing a paste might help.
[03:15] <eugman> I'm too slow
[03:15] <jacie_> grimboy, it says /media/music/test$ and than i can type
[03:15] <amit1> vasi, i'm about to graduate with computer eng.
[03:15] <eugman> vasi, Desktop/woody-i386-1.jigdo: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression
[03:15] <amit1> i need a freakin job
[03:15] <gfxstyler_> Amaranth: but i have a slight guess: everytime when that problem happens i just changed a menu entry and quit the application, so maybe its just writing the menu file/information but then quits, so its broken? because i can fix it (sometimes) by just running alacarte again, wait a sec and exit it
[03:15] <vasi> eugman: so it's compressed, try decompressing it :-)    gzip -cd foo.jigdo > foo-unicompressed.jigdo
[03:15] <jacie_> grimboy where do i paste it?
[03:16] <vasi> amit1: yeah, i feel you
[03:16] <eugman> -cd ?
[03:16] <Dave|id> what's that command that lists all known users on the system?
[03:16] <vasi> amit1: what school are you at?
[03:16] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm trying to use gparted on my iPod, but it just shows the whole disk as unallocated space. The error is "Error: Unable to open /dev/sda - unrecognised disk label." I know gparted is capable of doing this; any suggestions? (this is the case with both my computers, dapper)
[03:16] <grimboy> jacie_, look at what ubotu says after I type !pastebin
[03:16] <grimboy> !pastebin
[03:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:16] <vasi> Dave|id: you can just cat /etc/passwd
[03:16] <amit1> univesity of california, Irvine..you?
[03:16] <jacie_> ok
[03:16] <vasi> McGill
[03:16] <isos> sethk and iceman, this is my lspci output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23034
[03:16] <Dave|id> vasi: thanks heaps!
[03:17] <eugman> it worked hooray!
[03:17] <vasi> Dave|id: you're welcome :-)
[03:17] <kojak> anyone know anything abou fuse
[03:17] <vasi> eugman: great!
[03:17] <grimboy> jacie_, In the terminal though just try typing "ls"
[03:17] <jacie_> grimboy, u want me to copy what it said to show you?
[03:17] <eugman> Now explain to me something. Why couldn't archive manager open it, vasi?
[03:17] <vasi> eugman: for the future, 'file' will almost always help you figure out what format a file is in
[03:17] <jacie_> grimboy, nothing happend
[03:17] <johny5> Is there any way to transfer my gnome menus to windowmaker?
[03:17] <eugman> k
[03:17] <vasi> eugman: well it's not an archive (like a .tar.gz)
[03:17] <vasi> it's just compressed
[03:17] <iceman> isos what this Texas Instruments PCI7420
[03:18] <jmitchj> I have a Compaq R4000 Laptop with AC97 Data Fax Softmodem with SmartCp...I am new to Linux...how would i go about getting Ubuntu Live CD session to recognize this modem?
[03:18] <eugman> vasi, rather confusing but ok.
[03:18] <vasi> i'm not sure how Archive Manager checks what it thinks a file is...
[03:18] <isos> huh .. beat me
[03:18] <vasi> eugman: well compressing and archiving are two different things
[03:18] <eugman> Right but shouldn't it be foo.jigdo.gz ?
[03:18] <Adam_G> I've gotten fuser to work (it was -m -v, BTW) but there are 20-odd programs accessing it, none of them particularly suspicious
[03:18] <grimboy> jacie_, Hmm... I'm sorry I'm having a hard time here. I'm just going to try one last thing.
[03:18] <vasi> eugman: yes it should, but somebody named it wrong!
[03:19] <jacie_> grimboy, okay
[03:19] <Adam_G> I've had it happen with a crashed mplayer from the FF plugin, but there's none of those...
[03:19] <vasi> there's nothing preventing you from doing 'mv foo.gz foo.pdf' or something silly like that :-)
[03:19] <iceman> chesk the URL i sent you and put in your model number complete. look for the modem driver download, should tell you the manufacture.
[03:19] <atul> Can anybody help me witha very strange audio problem
[03:19] <iceman> isos my guess TI
[03:19] <Adam_G> atul, I'm having one at the moment as well- what's yours?
[03:19] <grimboy> jacie_, Try following (http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_tutorials/1/1.php) this guide and if you need any additional help ask here.
[03:19] <eugman> Trying to find the right cd with debian has made me like ubuntu much more.
[03:20] <atul> My audio has disappeared
[03:20] <Adam_G> atul, as in nothing plays, or /dev/audio doesn't exist?
[03:20] <isos> TI? or ATI?
[03:20] <atul> It was working fine but now i can't play anything - not even using aplay
[03:20] <jacie_> grimboy, is that the last thing your going to do?
[03:20] <grimboy> jacie_, Although the first step won't work. So just put "sudo" in front of all the commands.
[03:20] <amit1> anyone tried Linux From Scratch before?
[03:20] <Adam_G> any errors show up?
[03:20] <vasi> amit1: i've tried it
[03:20] <jacie_> grimboy ok
[03:20] <iceman> isos ati is the Video i am sure
[03:21] <CyDrive> can anyone reccomend a program like frontpage but for ubuntu and a good c++ compiler
[03:21] <amit1> how do u get started with it
[03:21] <sethk> atul, what changed?  did you install something?
[03:21] <isos> that's what I remember it was!!
[03:21] <amit1> is there some sort of installer?
[03:21] <isos> but can't find a TI
[03:21] <sethk> CyDrive, gcc/g++ is really the only compiler
[03:21] <atul> no errors, everything seems to be happy, but no sound from the speakers
[03:21] <grimboy> jacie_, Yeah, I'm sorry I just can't quite follow what's going on at your end. I'm still here but see how you get on with that guide.
[03:21] <vasi> amit1: not really...LFS is actually a book
[03:21] <sethk> CyDrive, intel has a compiler but it isn't free
[03:21] <vasi> (well, online book)
[03:21] <isos> You mean Texas Instruments ?
[03:21] <amit1> yeh i found this link for a book pdf
[03:21] <atul> alsamixer shoes everything is at full volume and unmuted
[03:21] <vasi> that gives step-by-step explanations how to install linux
[03:21] <janbanan> What do i type to add repos?
[03:21] <vasi> totally from scratch, without any existing installer or anything
[03:22] <janbanan> in the source list
[03:22] <atul> I have been doing regular dist-upgrades
[03:22] <amit1> oh okay coool
[03:22] <xarq> how do I disable my middle and right mouse buttons?  I'm trying to teach a 2-year-old how to use a mouse
[03:22] <CyDrive> sethk; thanks but since im broke gotta use the free one lol do you happen to know of any program like frontpage where i can see what im coding when i design my webpage?
[03:22] <vasi> (well, you need to have some unix-like OS running already....)
[03:22] <isos> iceman: is the firewire the same as modem or what? .. told you I am ignorant when it comes to hardwares
[03:22] <amit1> via LiveCD maybe?
[03:22] <vasi> i put together a little guide for installing LFS directly from Mac OS X: http://vasi.webhop.org/trac/wiki/LfsOsx
[03:22] <vasi> (in case you happen to be a mac user)
[03:22] <sethk> CyDrive, I've not seen a program like frontpage, no.  I do o/s development, though, not web development, so there may be things I haven't seen.
[03:23] <nozorro> janbanan: which repos do you want to add?
[03:23] <vasi> i think you can use Cygwin from windows, not sure
[03:23] <vasi> or you can use a livecd, yeah....but it will be slow
[03:23] <fokuslee> ubuntu forum has been super slow lately
[03:23] <willzzz> try nvu, i heard it's a good WSUIWYG editor on linux
[03:23] <atul> Adam_G, sethk: any ideas?
[03:23] <amit1> i'm going to try to install it on a formated drive
[03:23] <konmpoz> i have an intel processor but the uname -p gives 'unknown'
[03:23] <CyDrive> sethk; well thanks for the compiler info
[03:23] <amit1> clean
[03:23] <sethk> atul, you did a dist upgrade, and lost sound?
[03:23] <janbanan> nozorro: never mind, go it
[03:24] <sethk> atul, is that the situation?  or are you not sure whether the dist upgrade caused the problem?
[03:24] <grimboy> sethk, Yeah nvu is pretty good. It is based on the old netscape wysiwyg project.
[03:24] <fokuslee> ubuntu forum has been super slow lately
[03:24] <atul> sethk: probably but I'm not sure
[03:24] <vasi> fokuslee: yes
[03:24] <fokuslee> vasi, is there an alternative forum?
[03:24] <vasi> fokuslee: uh, there's IRC ;-)
[03:24] <sethk> grimboy, thanks, but I was answering, who was asking? ...
[03:24] <cynical> fokuslee: no lol
[03:24] <atul> sethk, i just remembered, another thing i did was remove my unused kernels
[03:25] <isos> so iceman are u sure it's the modem type?
[03:25] <sethk> grimboy, cydrive
[03:25] <isos> or you are only guessing?
[03:25] <vasi> and there's the google cache of the ubuntu forums
[03:25] <grimboy> sethk, Argh.
[03:25] <sethk> atul, removing unused kernels didn't cause it.
[03:25] <Adam_G> atul: does /dev/audio exist?
[03:25] <sinisterr> will .debs for Ubuntu Hoary work with Ubuntu Dapper?
[03:25] <eugman> I've started up a wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop but it could you information from people who have been using linux for more than a year.
[03:25] <atul> ADAM_G, yes /dev/audio exists
[03:25] <grimboy> sethk, I mean oops.
[03:25] <konmpoz> anyones knows?
[03:25] <vasi> sinisterr: it kinda depends, but unlikely
[03:25] <eugman> Any help would be appreciated.
[03:25] <nozorro> sinisterr: not likely
[03:25] <sinisterr> k
[03:25] <Adam_G> atul: and does any kind of error show up when trying to play audio?
[03:25] <isos> cuz none is listed in the website
[03:25] <sinisterr> thanks
[03:26] <CaptainKidd> pink floyd is amazing
[03:26] <nekostar> mmm
[03:26] <nekostar> still more problems with forums and repository eh?
[03:26] <atul> Adam_g: no errors its almost as if its only a problem in the sund card, but thats not the case as I get sound in WinXP
[03:26] <vasi> eugman: i believe 'elinks' and 'links' tend to be better than 'lynx;
[03:26] <vasi> they support tables and such
[03:26] <eugman> vasi, unless you want to read that page. hehe.
[03:27] <eugman> From what I understand they have no https support.
[03:27] <eugman> But in general they are better , yes.
[03:27] <jacie_> grimboy, when i try my root password it keeps saying failure but i am typing it right
[03:27] <vasi> heh!
[03:27] <Adam_G> atul: I dunno about that... I'm not getting sound either but I'm getting an error as well
[03:27] <sethk> atul, if you did a kernel upgrade, probably the module for your sound hardware isn't loading for some reason.
[03:27] <ANTDx1> lupine_85, are you still here?
[03:27] <Bob_> jacie_: does your password include a space?
[03:27] <vasi> elinks has tabs, which are really great for a minimal situation
[03:28] <jacie_> grimboy no
[03:28] <atul> sethk, alsamixer shows my card, is that enough or should i check my modules anyway
[03:28] <vasi> oooh you left out something really important! 'screen'!
[03:28] <Bob_> jacie_: kk thought I'd ask.
[03:28] <grimboy> jacie_, Bob isn't me
[03:28] <ANTDx1> I have sort of a problem.
[03:28] <vasi> otherwise you'll run out of VTs pretty darn quick
[03:28] <isos> sethk can u please check the output of my lspci? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23034
[03:28] <jacie_> grimboy i noticed lol
[03:28] <eugman> Yes, didn't think it was a basic program though. Like I said I've only recently started making the page.
[03:28] <tr0nic> somebody tell me the package I need in order to make make again?
[03:28] <grimboy> jacie_, Are you typing su? By root password do you mean your account password?
[03:28] <jbroome> build-essentil  tr0nic
[03:28] <eugman> It would probably go ina  different section of the page.
[03:29] <atul> sethk, i just did a lsmod | grep snd and I think the modules are loaded
[03:29] <tr0nic> right thankyou
[03:29] <ANTDx1> I'm trying to dual-boot Windows XP and Ubuntu on my machine, but it's not working.  When I get to Ubuntu's partition manager, it does not allow me to resize the partition, always saying that it cannot create enough free space to install.
[03:29] <jacie_> grimboy yes i'm typing my account password
[03:29] <jbroome> err, build-essential  spelling it right helps
[03:29] <isos> ok, anyone please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23034 where is my modem?
[03:29] <ANTDx1> I have defragmented my HD, and have also tried using GParted live CD
[03:29] <Flannel> eugman: screen, and centerICQs irc support is lacking, recommend irssi (and it's already installed)
[03:29] <ANTDx1> Neither of those options seem to work.
[03:29] <tr0nic> shit i'm ahead of myself ..... ty
[03:30] <eugman> Flannel, unless someone removed it I do have irssi recommended there. And apparently dappers is the last one it's installed by default on.
[03:30] <grimboy> jacie_, Are you running su? If so don't. Instead type sudo /bin/bash
[03:30] <eugman> Or so I was told.
[03:30] <Flannel> eugman: yes, irssi is installed by default
[03:30] <Adam_G> vasi: I'm an idiot
[03:30] <eugman> Right, but is it installed by default in edgy?
[03:30] <ANTDx1> Anyone know of any free and legal partition editors for Windows?
[03:30] <vasi> Adam_G: what happened?
[03:30] <fokuslee> lol
[03:30] <fokuslee> ANTDx1,
[03:30] <fokuslee> u left before i could tell u
[03:31] <Adam_G> vasi: I had killed whatever process was causing the issue, but hadn't restarted xmms, which I was getting the error in.
[03:31] <jacie_> grimboy now its saying root@ubuntu:-~#
[03:31] <vasi> isos: i see no modem there
[03:31] <fokuslee> partition logic
[03:31] <fokuslee> itz free
[03:31] <fokuslee> and for windows
[03:31] <cvt> what are the system requirements for burning cd's in k3b?
[03:31] <Adam_G> it's fixed now- thanks for your help :d
[03:31] <jacie_> grimboy do i just continue the instructions than?
[03:31] <isos> huh?!!! it was working on windows?
[03:31] <Adam_G> *:D
[03:31] <vasi> heh...woops
[03:31] <vasi> :-)
[03:31] <eugman> oh whoops. I mentioned irc for icqcenter because I was copying the information line.
[03:31] <james296> how can I allow Ubuntu to automatically play a song I put my cursor over it? I noticed it did that when I got Automatix but I dont wanna have to use that
[03:31] <grimboy> jacie_, Yeah, that should work.
[03:32] <jacie_> grimboy, do i keep typing sudo infront of every command?
[03:32] <isos> it's a laptop ... so it can't be removed or disabled (as far as I know one can't)
[03:32] <nozorro> james296: in the file manager?
[03:32] <james296> yeah
[03:32] <grimboy> jacie_, Nahh... you don't have to do that now.
[03:32] <Dimensions> em really happy no one can answer me once again here ... isn't there any one who think hes a linux guru ?
[03:32] <jacie_> grimboy, thanks a bunch
[03:32] <w30> xarq, you could get an old mouse and take out the contacts for the extra buttons, and change mouses (mice er mices) for him.
[03:32] <ANTDx1> Its not for windows...it boots on its own
[03:32] <vasi> isos: i really don't know what's wrong, i just see nothing that looks like a modem in that paste
[03:32] <atul> Whats the problem Dimensions?
[03:33] <sethk> isos, it isn't a pcmcia card, is it?
[03:33] <nekostar> dammit where's the damn forums
[03:33] <Dimensions> atul:  its abg gprs connection via cell phone
[03:33] <fokuslee> ?? what u talking about u needed to resize partition rite?
[03:33] <nekostar> is anyone else having trouble with http://ubuntuforums.org
[03:33] <nekostar> ??
[03:33] <vasi> nekostar: google cache?
[03:33] <Dimensions> abt*
[03:33] <nekostar> vasi, no?
[03:33] <vasi> nekostar: why?
[03:33] <karim> how to enable resuming on apache2 downloads ?
[03:33] <isos> sethk: I don't know what is a pcmcia card
[03:33] <atul> Dimensions, sorry thats not my area
[03:34] <isos> :/
[03:34] <nozorro> james296: install mpg123 ...
[03:34] <vasi> nekostar: i dunno why the forums are so slow lately
[03:34] <sethk> isos, laptops have a slot for installing expansion cards, called pcmcia cards.  they are about the size of a credit card (thicker, of course)
[03:34] <james296> how do I do that?
[03:34] <Frederick> folks does anyoe here uses magic wand api?
[03:34] <w30> james296, you need the programs that gnome calls when the mouse hovers over the song icon. sox for wavs and aus any how
[03:34] <sethk> isos, modems can be turned on and off in the bios, but if it works in windows and you haven't changed the bios, that's not a factor.
[03:34] <nekostar> vasi,
[03:34] <nekostar> im getting rather irritated
[03:34] <isos> hmmm ... so it's not
[03:34] <nozorro> james296: System > administration > Synaptic
[03:34] <nekostar> ive repeatedly donated towards forums directly
[03:34] <james296> so how do I get it???
[03:34] <Dimensions> lol
[03:35] <nekostar> shit
[03:35] <sethk> isos, I see sired ethernet, wireless ethernet
[03:35] <w30> james296, mpg123 or mpg321 for mp3s
[03:35] <vasi> nekostar: i'm sorry, i'm not involved
[03:35] <Dimensions> np atul
[03:35] <adriandi> hola
[03:35] <nekostar> i could probably have gottem em hosting with what ive donated
[03:35] <vasi> i'm just telling you that it's not your connection
[03:35] <sethk> isos, you sure it is a modem, as in telephone, dialup, etc.?
[03:35] <sethk> isos, it has an rj11 connector?
[03:35] <adriandi> im looking for a good animation program for windows
[03:35] <isos> I used to connect to the internet using dial-up back in windows
[03:35] <isos> now I can't
[03:35] <adriandi> any suggestions?
[03:35] <vasi> karim: i think resumes are enabled by default in apache
[03:35] <Flannel> adriandi: this is the wrong place to look
[03:35] <jay> in launchpad where do you put feature requests? do you just file a bug report.
[03:36] <nozorro> james296: to enable the same for ogg files install vorbis-tools. sox may also be necessary (not sure)
[03:36] <sethk> isos, is windows still on the box?  is it set up for dual boot?  if so you can boot windows and see if the modem is still working.
[03:36] <isos> that's my problem! .. and ... beat me ... dunno what is rj11 connector
[03:36] <Luakagon> you probably shouldn't have mentioned you were running windows XD
[03:36] <Flannel> adriandi: but, try blender
[03:36] <sethk> isos, the connector that looks like a 10baseT ethernet connector, only with fewer pins
[03:36] <karim> vasi, I think it's not on my server. some kind couldn't resume
[03:36] <xarq> when I create new users, they don't have any sound.  is there a way to fix this?
[03:36] <sethk> isos, hm, that probably doesn't help, does it.
[03:36] <vasi> karim: it's probably their client
[03:37] <isos> I have removed everything on windows, even drivers recently ... so it's not working I tried to
[03:37] <jay> rj-11 is your standard telephone wire
[03:37] <sethk> isos, the thing that is used to connect a phone (or modem) to the telco socket
[03:37] <nozorro> james296: not mpg123 but mpt123-esd if you have a default install. sorry
[03:37] <fiendskull9> how do i get the x development librarys?
[03:37] <ANTDx1> thanks for the help, fokuslee
[03:37] <ANTDx1> burning iso now
[03:37] <isos> yes got it
[03:37] <isos> :)
[03:37] <atul> Stupid question: How do I find out what version of kubuntu I am running?
[03:37] <isos> so yes
[03:37] <isos> it has ...
[03:37] <adriandi> flannel ty
[03:38] <fokuslee> NP
[03:38] <isos> in windows the IE dial-up told me that no modem was found
[03:38] <Flannel> atul: lsb_release -a
[03:38] <grimboy> Does anyone know a way of disabling and enabling xinarama on the fly?
[03:38] <cvt> is anyone burning with a slow pc?
[03:38] <eugman> All of you should install and play moon-buggy-esd and bombardier.
[03:38] <fiendskull9> how do i get the x development librarys?
[03:38] <Milktea> How do I mount an iso image
[03:39] <atul> Flannel, thanks!
[03:39] <isos> atul: that's not a stupid questions: not wrong to be ignorant in some stuff ... like my situation now, the guys are talking and I am just asking: what does that mean?! ;)
[03:39] <nozorro> cvt: define 'slow' :-) until recently i had a k7 600 and no problems. burner and hd were quite new though
[03:40] <vasi> Milktea: 'mount -o loop foo.iso some-directory'
[03:40] <Milktea> thanks
[03:40] <fiendskull9> how do i get the x development librarys?
[03:40] <james296> nozorro, that didnt work I cant find anything
[03:40] <William_> Are there any good free(libre) OSS fps games for Ubuntu?
[03:40] <cvt> nozorro,  what were the specs of the ram and processor?
[03:40] <vasi> fiendskull9: use 'apt-cache search' to look for packages
[03:40] <asdf25> grimboy: you mean you want to be able to switch to using just one monitor?
[03:40] <Flannel> William_: Enemy Territory
[03:40] <isos> sethk?
[03:40] <vasi> or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <sethk> isos, hang on, doing something for work, I'll be right back.
[03:41] <fiendskull9> vasi, to get 100 some-odd packages?
[03:41] <fiendskull9> i know how to search
[03:41] <fiendskull9> im just wondering if anyone knows the package name
[03:41] <isos> sorry .. I'll wait
[03:41] <nozorro> james296: you may need to add repositories. look what uboto has to say about them:
[03:41] <nozorro> !repos
[03:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:41] <grimboy> asdf25, Yeah, anything that would allow games to start working normally. I suppose I could just switch my xorg.conf and restart but talk about a palava.
[03:41] <Relativity> How do I execute perl files ?
[03:41] <Milktea> what's the command to make a new folder
[03:41] <asdf25> grimboy: do you have an nvidia card?
[03:42] <Flannel> Milktea: mkdir
[03:42] <freshtonic> you can use this command to mount an ISO: mount -o loop -t iso9660 [ISOFILE] 
[03:42] <vasi> fiendskull9: maybe xorg-dev?
[03:42] <Milktea> thanks
[03:42] <Relativity> milktea just right click desktop
[03:42] <Milktea> no i need to make one in /media
[03:42] <Milktea> xD
[03:42] <Milktea> i wanna mount it there
[03:42] <Flannel> Relativity: perl [file] 
[03:42] <nozorro> cvt: athlon 600 Mhz as a said, 380 MB RAM
[03:42] <Relativity> oh thanks
[03:42] <jacie_> grimboy, i have fstab open and it wont let me type on a new line at the bottom
[03:42] <sethk> isos, ok, now you are saying that the modem is not found in windows either?
[03:42] <grimboy> asdf25, Yeah but it's not dual head. I have a normal nvidia agp and an el cheapo 8mb one in pci
[03:43] <sethk> jacie_, use sudo
[03:43] <james296> how do I know what repository to add?
[03:43] <Dave|id> Trying to get 'Cricket' up and running... i've done 'apt-get install  cricket' and also 'apt-get install rrdtool' i've copied the sample data into the /etc/cricket/config and run the '/usr/bin/cricket-compile' .... i can get to http://192.168.10.1/cgi-bin/cricket/grapher.cgi and see everything there, the issue is that the graphs are not populating... the package sets up the cron jobs, so that's all good... any one with any clue as to what's happe
[03:43] <William_> Flannel, That isn't free(libre) OSS software.
[03:43] <cvt> nozorro,  i didn't know 600 meant processor
[03:43] <jacie_> grimboy, use sudo in text editor?
[03:43] <Frederick> folks does anyone here uses imagemagick?
[03:43] <Flannel> William_: yes itis
[03:43] <asdf25> grimboy: hm, i don't know what the xorg.conf would look like for that... with a normal dual head nvidia card, you can put single-monitor resolutions in the "MetaModes" variables in the "Device" section
[03:43] <smacky_wolf> Frederick, I have
[03:43] <William_> Flannel, That is free(gratis) proprietary software.
[03:43] <Flannel> William_: no, it's open source
[03:44] <cvt> nozorro,  i have a 800mHz but only 128mB ram. do you think that will be enough to burn with new burner?
[03:44] <Frederick> smacky_wolf, do you use its c api magick wand?
[03:44] <William_> Flannel, no it is not.
[03:44] <smacky_wolf> Frederick, I only ever usedit for my webserv... s0rry =/
[03:44] <Asymmetry> What's up, everyone?
[03:44] <nozorro> james296: for mpg123 you'll need multiverse, the rest doesn't need extra repos i think.
[03:44] <isai> hi
[03:44] <William_> Flannel, The engine is open source, not the game data.
[03:44] <grimboy> jacie_, I'm not sethk. No, type sudo gedit /etc/fstab and then try.
[03:44] <w30> Milktea, open the folder media and then right click and then click new folder
[03:44] <sflash> how can i install xmame on my ubuntu server?
[03:44] <Milktea> i need to be root lol
[03:44] <tr0nic> anyone know where the package build-essential (file) is on ubuntu packages i can't find it
[03:44] <sethk> we need to set up a couple of specialized IRC channels.  the volume is getting unmanageable
[03:45] <nozorro> cvt: well the system will swap a bit anyway, but yes. get some ram sometime if you can.
[03:45] <tr0nic> i'm having real problems finding this file
[03:45] <Frederick> oki Ive discovered the problem, ubuntu package for imagemagick is mesed it doesn't ships all it should ship wiyh
[03:45] <sflash> i tried sudo apt-get install xmame-common but that doesnt find it
[03:45] <vasi> tr0nic: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/build-essential
[03:45] <sethk> Milktea, you can use sudo, or you can set the root password.  some people object to setting the root password.
[03:45] <Asymmetry> Is there a way I can get apt to install all suggested and recommended packages for an install operation?
[03:45] <Milktea> yeah i just used sudo mkdir
[03:45] <imperfect-> Hi. I've tried to get past the conroe 965 chipset based issue by using a USB CDROM and the livecd/installer still will not boot -- Any ideas?
[03:45] <Milktea> people are telling me to do it another way
[03:45] <grimboy> Milktea, You can always do sudo su.
[03:46] <isai> I just resized my hda1 with winxp on it (so that i could install ubuntu). Now when it boots up it says 'Missing OS'. I guess I just have to fix MBR so that winxp will boot \. how do I do that?
[03:46] <Asymmetry> Or, sudo bash
[03:46] <w30> sethk, sure is busy tonight but sometimes it's dead so you never know eh?
[03:46] <Milktea> but terminal is so cool
[03:46] <Milktea> xD
[03:46] <vasi> sflash: you need to enable multiverse
[03:46] <Frederick> Imagemagick has 2 APIs at least 1 for C++ and 1 for C by some reason ubuntu didn't include the C API in the package what should I sdo?
[03:46] <grimboy> Asymmetry, Unfortunately you don't get the pwd with that.
[03:46] <Relativity> Can someone help me with running a perl file ?
[03:46] <w30> sethk, a net split will cool things off, ha
[03:46] <sethk> isai, the "normal" windows boot manager shouldn't be clobbered by that.  anyway, you can do    fdisk/mbr
[03:46] <grimboy> Asymmetry, (at the side of each prompt I mean)
[03:46] <Flannel> Relativity: perl [file] 
[03:47] <Asymmetry> grimboy: what do you mean?
[03:47] <sethk> w30, true
[03:47] <beemonk> Can anyone explain to me the differences between /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, and /dev/dsp2 ? I'm trying to get my USB 5.1 headset to work in VMware, and I can choose between those 3 for sound...or rather...I can type anything in the box but i wondered why there are 3 dsp's
[03:47] <daurnimator> isai: you need to boot from winxp cd
[03:47] <Asymmetry> grimboy: I came in in the middle if the discussion, so I'm probably lost out the gate. xD
[03:47] <daurnimator> and choose recovery console
[03:47] <Relativity> flannel what format should the file be in ? I have the perl code but should it be in a .txt or .pl when ever i type in perl file it opens the file instead of running it
[03:47] <daurnimator> isai: - then type "fixboot" "fixmbr
[03:48] <grimboy> Asymmetry, Well with a normal prompt it has the current directory at the side. If you type in sudo bash you just get a has instead of the current directory. Not so if you run "sudo su".
[03:48] <Flannel> Relativity: doesn't matter, but .pl is standard.  Just make sure it has the shebang
[03:48] <sethk> Relativity, file names don't matter in unix
[03:48] <sethk> Relativity, you need a bang line at the beginning of the file, e.g.,  #!/bin/perl
[03:48] <Asymmetry> grimboy: Dunno about you, but I've been doing sudo bash for as long as I've been using Ubuntu. I always get the working directory in the prompt.
[03:48] <isos> sethk : yes, but I said also mentioned that I have removed all uneeded installed drivers
[03:48] <sethk> Relativity, you also need to  do    chmod +x whatever.pl     to make it an executable script
[03:48] <vasi> beemonk: i think it's just so multiple programs can use the soundcard at the same time
[03:49] <Asymmetry> grimboy: jcoffman@Masahiro:/usr/bin$ sudo bash
[03:49] <sethk> isos, that's irrelevant, as far as I can see.
[03:49] <vasi> it's a little archaic
[03:49] <thedash> I don't suppose wget has any intelligent search abilities?
[03:49] <Relativity> #!/usr/bin/perl
[03:49] <sethk> isos, I think your modem is just plain broken.
[03:49] <Relativity> use HTTP::Cookies;
[03:49] <Relativity> use LWP 5.64;
[03:49] <Relativity> use HTTP::Request;
[03:49] <Relativity> Thats the front lines
[03:49] <Asymmetry> grimboy: root@Masahiro:/usr/bin#
[03:49] <vasi> not 'sudo bash', 'sudo -s'
[03:49] <grimboy> asdf25, Actually, yeah I could just add a 0x0 mode for one of the gfx cards. That might work (if it doesn't break X)
[03:49] <isos> :(
[03:49] <sethk> Relativity, I'm talking about the very first line of the file
[03:49] <Relativity> im not familliar with chmod
[03:49] <eugman> Can anyone explain to me the general differences between dash abd bash?
[03:49] <beemonk> vasi: Well, my sound works fine through amarok at the moment...Im just trying to get it to work in vmware
[03:49] <Relativity> #!/usr/bin/perl
[03:49] <eugman> er, dash and bash
[03:49] <sethk> Relativity, and a bang line is a comment (because the first character is #), and is used by the shell to run
[03:49] <isos> so no use?
[03:49] <jacie_> grimboy, i accidently closed the terminal do i have to start all over again?
[03:50] <sethk> Relativity, ok, make sure that /usr/bin/perl is there      ls -l /usr/bin/perl
[03:50] <vasi> eugman: dash is smaller, has less features
[03:50] <sethk> isos, if it's dead, not really.
[03:50] <grimboy> Asymmetry, Oh, it looks like I'm talking crap then.
[03:50] <vasi> you probably won't care unless you do a lot of shell scripting
[03:50] <grimboy> jacie_, What step are you on?
[03:50] <tr0nic> build-essential says it needs dpkg-dev
[03:50] <vasi> thedash: you have an extra 'the', not so small
[03:50] <vasi> :-)
[03:50] <eugman> thedash, it's not the features it's how you use them.
[03:50] <tr0nic> and dpkg-dev says it needs gcc
[03:50] <Asymmetry> grimboy: I could just have something set up differently than you.
[03:50] <thedash> that's because "dash" is registered by somebody else :P
[03:50] <vasi> eugman: lol
[03:50] <Relativity> sethk Im getting confused
[03:50] <Relativity> sethk do you have aim ?
[03:50] <isos> ok .. thanks for help guys, you've been helpful
[03:51] <sethk> Relativity, no, I have a yahoo messenger thing
[03:51] <Relativity> that works
[03:51] <sethk> good_old_wagon
[03:51] <Relativity> whats your name ?
[03:51] <sethk> Relativity,   good_old_wagon
[03:51] <William_> Flannel, http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Download <-- this is free software
[03:51] <grimboy> Asymmetry, No, I just did it, I was running bash as /bin/bash so it started off in root meaning the prompt was just #
[03:51] <tr0nic> and gcc is in build-essential :(
[03:51] <Asymmetry> grimboy: Got you.
[03:51] <vasi> tr0nic: you really should try to get connected to the net
[03:51] <Asymmetry> Anyway... I can give apt-get a flag, or something, that'll automatically select the suggested/recommended packages for installation during an install?
[03:51] <jacie_> grimboy i just saved the stuff i had to type that line on
[03:51] <Milktea> Are there any good dvd players?
[03:51] <tr0nic> i know vasi
[03:51] <vasi> it's going to be hard otherwise
[03:51] <tr0nic> i need build-essential to stand a chance
[03:52] <vasi> Asymmetry: i don't think such a flag exists....but 'aptitude' is an apt replacement that apparently has such a flag
[03:52] <grimboy> jacie_, Right start up the terminal again and type in sudo mount -a
[03:52] <Asymmetry> vasi: How well does aptitude work?
[03:52] <jacie_> grimboy says mount: special device /dev/Y does not exist
[03:52] <tr0nic> packages are cool though
[03:52] <krups> milktea - mplayer works fine here.  but "good" is relative.
[03:52] <vasi> tr0nic: so download everything that build-essential needs, including gcc
[03:52] <tr0nic> i'll get there
[03:52] <Milktea> Well
[03:52] <tr0nic> i suppose i'll have to vasi
[03:52] <vasi> Asymmetry: i have no idea, i've never used it
[03:52] <Milktea> One as decent as using WMP
[03:53] <vasi> Asymmetry: i just googled :-)
[03:53] <vasi> VLC is pretty good as a video player
[03:53] <tr0nic> i'm happy enough getting away from winblows anyway ty
[03:53] <grimboy> jacie_, Ah, go back and replace /dev/Y with /dev/hdc1
[03:53] <nozorro> Asymmetry: synaptic can also fetch recommended pgks automatically
[03:53] <isai> daurnimator, I don't have the winxp cd. (this laptop did not come with one, just a recovery partition). Can I get one off the internet somewhere?
[03:53] <Adam_G> I'm having a more involved problem that I've posted here: http://www.adamgomaa.com/wiki/index.php?title=My_X_RAM_Problem (no registration to edit)
[03:54] <asdf25> Milktea: try VLC, or if not that Ogle does nothing but play DVDs, so it probably does that pretty well
[03:54] <Milktea> thanks ill try VLC because I've used it before
[03:54] <vasi> Adam_G: it's hard to count xorg's memory
[03:54] <Milktea> When I open a .mp3 in xmms
[03:54] <vasi> because it uses a lot of mmap'ed files and such
[03:54] <Milktea> it just speeds through the list
[03:54] <Milktea> not playing any music
[03:54] <Adam_G> vasi, I was afraid of that :/
[03:54] <Milktea> ):
[03:54] <grimboy> asdf25, I like the does one thing, just very well thing.
[03:54] <Milktea> not .mp3, .m3u rather
[03:55] <vasi> so what it lists as its memory really includes all kinds of things that aren't using your RAM
[03:55] <lufis> how do i get my cd rom drive to stop trying to read a scratched disk
[03:55] <Adam_G> oh... so that's normal?
[03:55] <vasi> unless you're doing a lot of swapping--and with a gig of ram, that shouldn't happen---then there's nothing to worry about
[03:55] <asdf25> grimboy: yeah, VLC has a pretty good interface though, Ogle's looks more ugly and compilcated from the screenshots on their site
[03:55] <grimboy> Milktea, xmms broke for me too, I've found rhytmbox to be much better anyway. Or if you have a good machine amarok.
[03:55] <Milktea> Well
[03:55] <Milktea> it plays .pls fine
[03:55] <Adam_G> cool. Ha. Problem solved. I like problems like that :D
[03:55] <vasi> :-)
[03:56] <Milktea> .m3u it just doesn't like
[03:56] <Milktea> ):
[03:56] <beemonk> vasi: Failed to open sound device /dev/dsp1: No such device        :/
[03:56] <Frederick> is there any tool to transform a fedora package in a ubuntu package?
[03:56] <vasi> beemonk: i guess try /dev/dsp then :-)
[03:56] <Milktea> I can't get the last.fm thing to install
[03:56] <vasi> Frederick: it's called 'alien'
[03:56] <grimboy> asdf25, Well then it's doing one thing badly and deserves to fade away for unnessecary duplication of effort.
[03:56] <beemonk> I try that, it doesnt conflict
[03:56] <Frederick> vasi, is it safe?
[03:56] <Milktea> has anyone else got it to work
[03:56] <beemonk> but it doesnt see my usb headset
[03:56] <Flannel> !tell Frederick about alien
[03:56] <lufis> I inserted a pretty scratched up disk. Cd rom drive continues to try to read it even after i closed nautilus. wtf
[03:56] <vasi> but it's impossible to convert perfectly, so be wary
[03:56] <sethk> Frederick, I've talked to people whose machine's were borked by alien
[03:56] <brian98> !nvidia
[03:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:56] <beemonk> going to launch my pc out the window in a sec :)
[03:56] <sethk> Frederick, but I don't know if it really was alien that borked them
[03:56] <isos> guys is the USB bluetooth setup different from the laptop bluetooth?
[03:57] <vasi> beemonk: sorry, i don't know how to help with that :-(
[03:57] <Flannel> Frederick: it's usually safe for some things like programs, not things like libraries and stuff,
[03:57] <beemonk> vasi: no worries, no one seems to
[03:57] <Frederick> sethk, I need a lib wich isn't present in ubuntu =/
[03:57] <grimboy> Milktea, Ah I couldn't get that working either. Not in rhythmbox or xmms.
[03:58] <jacie_> grimboy mount: special device /dev/hdcl does not exist
[03:58] <sethk> Frederick, I'm responding to your question about whether it is dangerous.  I believe that it is, but my knowledge about that is second hand.
[03:58] <Milktea> Ah, how lame
[03:58] <Lazarus^> hmmm
[03:58] <isos> Guys would someone help me on this? .. setting up my bluetooth
[03:58] <Lazarus^> anybody here?
[03:58] <isos> I have a laptop with a bluetooth
[03:58] <Milktea> ? paste
[03:58] <vasi> Lazarus^: i'm not here
[03:58] <Frederick> sethk, would create a deb package be a better option?
[03:58] <grimboy> jacie_, Replace the small "L" (l) as in the letter in "dev/hdcl" with a 1 (one) as in the number
[03:58] <Lazarus^> ...
[03:58] <Milktea> Hmm
[03:59] <Milktea> What's that pastebin site
[03:59] <nozorro> Lazarus^: lots of'em
[03:59] <vasi> !pastebin
[03:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:59] <Milktea> okay
[03:59] <Milktea> thanks
[03:59] <isos> the BluetoothSetup at the helppage isn't clear on that
[03:59] <sethk> Frederick, I'm not sure.
[03:59] <Lazarus^> okay! how do I remount a file system to read-write?
[03:59] <sethk> Frederick, I would install it from source.  there is a down side to that, but I think the down side is less risky than the alternatives
[04:00] <Frederick> does anyone here has experience in creating deb packages?
[04:00] <sethk> Frederick, first, what library are you missing?
[04:00] <vasi> Lazarus^: man mount
[04:00] <Milktea> Can someone help me, I pasted my error at
[04:00] <Milktea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23035
[04:00] <sethk> Frederick, we can check whether it appears in any other ubuntu package
[04:00] <Frederick> sethk, magicwand from I mage magick
[04:00] <Frederick> sethk, ive alread done it
[04:00] <Milktea> grimboy said he couldn't get Last.FM to work either, so I have no clue ):
[04:00] <cycom> why does my vm always say sda: assuing drive cache: write through twice?
[04:00] <William_> When I install crap with synaptic package manager, does that alter other users menus?
[04:01] <Lazarus^> =.=
[04:01] <Lazarus^> I am not so familiar with the syntax
[04:01] <vasi> Milktea: you're missing the library QtXml_debug
[04:01] <jacie_> grimboy it said this after i saved it with the 1 root@ubuntu:/home/jacie # sudo mount -a
[04:01] <jacie_> root@ubuntu:/home/jacie #
[04:01] <zebedee> Good morning all :-) Is it possible to disable (configuring power management) when booting from disk using f6? Regards Zebedee
[04:01] <Milktea> oh
[04:01] <lufis> cycom: becaus you're gay
[04:01] <vasi> Milktea: let me find out where that can be found
[04:01] <Milktea> thanks
[04:01] <Milktea> I'll brb, dinner @_@
[04:01] <gimmulf> Is there any nnice method to use when developing on a remote machine thru shell if i need to use many shells or do i need to ssh the machine like 3 times for 3 shells?
[04:02] <nozorro> William_: yes
[04:02] <cycom> lufis: ... dude, want to catch?
[04:02] <hey560> hello
[04:02] <Flannel> gimmulf: screen
[04:02] <lufis> cycom: I was just kidding :P
[04:02] <vasi> Lazarus^: well you need the 'remount' option, and the 'rw' option
[04:02] <jacie_> grimboy, so did it mount than like it was supposed to?
[04:02] <lufis> cycom: no really i dunno
[04:02] <cycom> lufis: oh. oh, so was I.
[04:02] <Lazarus^> so how does that go?
[04:02] <William_> nozorro, How can I make it not do that?
[04:02] <hey560> does anybody know how to force Sound-Juicer to create seekpoints when ripping a CD to FLAC
[04:02] <vasi> so you get 'mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever wherever'
[04:02] <grimboy> jacie_, What, as in it said nothing? If so type in "cd /mnt/X" (with whatever you called X) and then type "ls"
[04:02] <William_> nozorro, I want it to be if I install stuff, it only edits my menus and not other users menus.
[04:02] <gimmulf> Flannel:  but i dont want to have separate windows not just 1 window where i can switch
[04:03] <Flannel> gimmulf: what?
[04:03] <cycom> ...
[04:03] <nozorro> William_: you remove the menu entries manually :-)
[04:03] <gimmulf> Flannel:  i want separate windows i meant
[04:03] <Flannel> gimmulf: what do you mean by 'separate windows'?
[04:03] <vasi> gimmulf: you can forward X11
[04:03] <nozorro> William_: or how many users are on your system?
[04:03] <jacie_> wow
[04:03] <gimmulf> Flannel:  so i can put them beside eachother
[04:03] <Lazarus^> can I do unmount first?
[04:03] <jacie_> grimboy :D it worked
[04:03] <Lazarus^> before mounting it again?
[04:03] <grimboy> jacie_, Yay!
[04:03] <james296> ok, you may not like hearing this in this chatroom, but for some reason I cant open Frostwire, I click on the icon and absolutely NOTHING happens...
[04:03] <vasi> Lazarus^: er, that's another option
[04:03] <jacie_> grimboy, so now where do i go find my hard drive?
[04:04] <vasi> but then don't do the 'remount' part
[04:04] <Zaxxon> need help
[04:04] <Lazarus^> hmm...
[04:04] <Flannel> gimmulf: screen can do splitscreen
[04:04] <james296> Im gettin so many problems today sheesh...
[04:04] <vasi> Zaxxon: welcome, fellow montrealer
[04:04] <vasi> what can we do for you?
[04:04] <grimboy> jacie_, Now it should be there every start up. If you want to have it on your desktop then just wait a sec.
[04:04] <malice> Is there widgets for ubuntu?
[04:04] <Zaxxon> vasi got a problem login as root
[04:04] <Asymmetry> Aptitude is actually pretty sweet.
[04:04] <vasi> Asymmetry: cool :-)
[04:04] <vasi> i'll try it someday
[04:04] <donaldGuy> hello.. I'm having a strange dependency problem with package totem-xine.. my goal was to get video support in firefox.. I could describe the problem in words .. but its just as easy to show the problem .. so I have pastebin'd it here http://www.copypot.com/675
[04:05] <vasi> Zaxxon: you don't want to use 'sudo'?
[04:05] <grimboy> "ln -s /dev/X /media/music" (with whatever you called X)
[04:05] <Asymmetry> vasi: It's a little funky to get used to, but once you learn how it works, it's awesome. You can browse packages in tree form, and even plan an install before you go root and commit.
[04:05] <donaldGuy> essientially the problem is that it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop .. which I'd assume would be bad
[04:05] <grimboy> jacie_, "ln -s /dev/X /media/music" (with whatever you called X)
[04:05] <Asymmetry> donaldGuy: That doesn't do anything.
[04:05] <Zaxxon> vasi just got my CD's the otherday I'm very new
[04:05] <vasi> Asymmetry: ah, i do that with synaptic
[04:05] <james296> so can anyone help me?
[04:05] <stanner> what with
[04:05] <Lazarus^> how do I unmount it? lol
[04:05] <Asymmetry> donaldGuy: It's a metapackage, it doesn't actually remove or modify anything.
[04:05] <donaldGuy> well it also wants to remove totem
[04:06] <vasi> Zaxxon: to do something as root, you can just type 'sudo <some command>'
[04:06] <Flannel> donaldGuy: nope.  u-d is a meta package, it can be removed fine.  However, you should reinstall it before upgrading to edgy (and that'll reinstall whatever you're currently removing)
[04:06] <William_> nozorro, I have 3 users.
[04:06] <vasi> eg 'sudo nano /etc/passwd'
[04:06] <Lazarus^> T_T
[04:06] <jacie_> grimboy nothing happen after i put that in
[04:06] <vasi> Lazarus^: there's a command 'unmount' :-)
[04:06] <gimmulf> Flannel:  tried starting screen and typed controll+a+s for the split but nothing happens
[04:06] <james296> hello?
[04:06] <vasi> james296: i missed your problem
[04:06] <donaldGuy> hmm okay .. I'll try and see what happens .. but I can't imagine totem-xine can work without totem
[04:06] <Lazarus^> bash: unmount: command not found <--then what is this?
[04:07] <james296> I cant run Frostwire...
[04:07] <lostinc> Is there a way to run the 'make', 'make install', 'make clean' all in one command rather then sitting at the computer and waiting for each command to end?
[04:07] <vasi> Lazarus^: woops, umount :-)
[04:07] <jacie_> Says file exists when i tried again grimboy
[04:07] <vasi> lostinc: just separate them with &&
[04:07] <grimboy> jacie_, Probably a good sign. Now just look at the desktop. Right click on it and select "Clean up by name"
[04:07] <vasi> so 'make && make install && make clean'
[04:07] <Flannel> gimmulf: it's S not s, s is xoff
[04:07] <lostinc> what will happen if there is an error?
[04:07] <Zaxxon> but I was told to use username root and the same password I use to login as user ???
[04:07] <nozorro> William_: well do it manually. or write a sehll script. or have a look into sabayon and pesselus. not sure whether they can help you in their present state
[04:07] <gimmulf> Flannel:  whats xoff? :)
[04:07] <vasi> Zaxxon: no, use your username
[04:08] <vasi> not root
[04:08] <nozorro> William_: *shell script
[04:08] <vasi> gimmulf, google it!
[04:08] <gimmulf> why
[04:08] <grimboy> jacie_, Has an icon appeared?
[04:08] <vasi> lostinc: if there's an error it will stop
[04:08] <William_> What is a good gui chess game for Ubuntu?
[04:08] <lostinc> great!
[04:08] <Lazarus^> so what's the syntax here?
[04:08] <lostinc> Thank you
[04:08] <Zaxxon> visa i do but now I want to login as admin I need to change a file for the bootstrap
[04:08] <vasi> Lazarus^: you really must learn to read man pages
[04:08] <Milktea> vasi: Did you find anything?
[04:08] <sto6ma9ch> gimmulf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOFF
[04:09] <talon> how do i install garnome?
[04:09] <Lazarus^> I'm trying! T_T
[04:09] <vasi> Milktea: well for some reason it's trying to find the _debug versions
[04:09] <Frederick> can I add nay other repo for this box? http://rafb.net/paste/results/zvBHLZ45.html
[04:09] <stanner> what is garnome?
[04:09] <jacie_> No grimboy but i found my music lol, but now it wont play is there a media player that i can install to play my music ?
[04:09] <vasi> see if there's a setting to turn that off, so it looks for the non-debug libraries
[04:09] <Frederick> I have ebabled dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[04:09] <james296> well?
[04:09] <donaldGuy> hm .. it seems to have installed okay (haven't checked functionality yet) but I tried re-installing u-d and it said it would have to remove totem-xine
[04:09] <odla> i can't seem to get beagle to search properly...for example i'm searching for the word kirsten and i know that i have several files with the word kirsten in it
[04:09] <vasi> james296: i have no idea
[04:10] <odla> any ideas as to what i might be possibly doing wrong
[04:10] <gu014> hello,
[04:10] <Zaxxon> visa ??
[04:10] <talon> hello? how do i install gnome 2.16?
[04:10] <grimboy> jacie_, Well try typing in "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox" - that's my favorite music player as it lets you manage your music libary.
[04:10] <vasi> you need to try and find more info that just 'it doesn't work'...sorry :-(
[04:10] <malice> kirsten teen
[04:10] <donaldGuy> I don't understand why .. or how, they are murually exclusive
[04:10] <gimmulf> sto6ma9ch:  ok do i shall hold down Control+a+Xoff which is a communications protocol, dont have that communication protocoll button on my keyboard :(
[04:10] <stanner> go to the gnome website
[04:10] <odla> malice: ?
[04:10] <Homer> talon, "sudo apt-get update" ?
[04:10] <malice> nevermind
[04:10] <vasi> Milktea: oh wait....
[04:10] <nozorro> talon: by installing the next ubuntu version
[04:10] <vasi> Milktea: try installing libqt4-debug-dev
[04:11] <grimboy> jacie_, After doing that you'll be able to run it from the menus under "Sound & Video"
[04:11] <talon> its unstable...wanna compile...
[04:11] <vasi> i think that has what you want
[04:11] <Milktea> ok
[04:11] <gu014> my dvd rom will not eject. here is my /etc/fstab /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:11] <gu014> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0  does anyone have any ideas?
[04:11] <jacie_> grimboy says root@ubuntu:/mnt/D # sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
[04:11] <jacie_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:11] <jacie_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:11] <jacie_> rhythmbox is already the newest version.
[04:11] <jacie_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:11] <jacie_> root@ubuntu:/mnt/D #
[04:11] <Zaxxon> visa please how do I login as admin ??
[04:11] <Flannel> !paste
[04:11] <stanner> to get gnome 2.16
[04:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:11] <stanner> go to http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/footware.shtml
[04:11] <nozorro> talon: you're asking for trouble
[04:11] <Flannel> Zaxxon: sudo -s
[04:11] <talon> why?
[04:11] <vasi> jacie_: you already have it, congratulations :-)
[04:11] <stanner> why what?
[04:11] <grimboy> jacie_, Ah, good then you already have it installed. Just look under "Sound and Video" under the ubuntu menu and start it up.
[04:11] <jacie_> grimboy but it keeps trying to play the music with totem movie player?
[04:12] <talon> why cant i install gnme 2.16?
[04:12] <talon> on dapper
[04:12] <gimmulf> Flannel:  could you please tell me what i should do with the S
[04:12] <Flannel> gimmulf: ctrl-a S
[04:12] <nozorro> talon: installing two gnome version side by side is problematic. plus, it ruins your ubuntu system package system maybe
[04:12] <tritium> talon: becuase it is not packaged for dapper.  It will be in edgy
[04:12] <vasi> gimmulf: use shift, to get a capital S
[04:12] <donaldGuy> horray! I get horribly choppy video I can't see! (though thats probably the codecs fault more than the plugin)
[04:12] <conner_> talon, you can install gnome 2.16 on Dapper. You'll just break all the regular dependencies.
[04:12] <Zaxxon> Flannel I'm very very new to this world ... so how do i enter sudo -s ????
[04:12] <jaytee> is it possible to login to Ubuntu as root in the GUI or can you only get super user priviledges from  terminal?
[04:13] <tritium> !rootsudo > jaytee
[04:13] <odla> talon: there really isn't that much different between 2.14 and 2.16 that would prevent you from waiting a month or so until edgy is released
[04:13] <talon> well...is edgy...welll...ok already?
[04:13] <grimboy> jacie_, If you run rhythmbox then you can add folders with music in them. That way you can access it all from rhythmbox (like iTunes)
[04:13] <tritium> talon: it is in development right now
[04:13] <gu014> my dvd drive will not eject, neiter by pressing the button or by doing an 'eject'  does anyone have any ideas as to how i could go about fixing this?
[04:13] <gu014> neither*
[04:13] <jacie_> grimboy, it says something about not having a plugin for a mp3?
[04:13] <donaldGuy> *sigh* not fun
[04:13] <conner_> talon, Edgy is expected to be released in October.
[04:13] <talon> hey...whats better nfs or samba?
[04:13] <nozorro> talon: it's for testing right now. '/join #ubuntu+1'
[04:13] <stanner> has anyone messed around with xgl lately?
[04:13] <odla> gu014: try to run sudo eject
[04:13] <grimboy> !automix
[04:13] <odla> at a terminal
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <grimboy> !autonix
[04:13] <stanner> cause on my other computers
[04:13] <Zaxxon> Flannel ??
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autonix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <grimboy> !easyubuntu
[04:13] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:13] <stanner> after i used xgl
[04:14] <stanner> the powerbutton
[04:14] <ryanakca> would aptitude's ncurse's interface be considered a graphical package manager or a command line one? kindof in the middle?
[04:14] <stanner> stops functioning rpoperly
[04:14] <conner_> talon, nfs is better if you're connecting to other *nix boxs. Samba is better if your connecting to Windows boxes.
[04:14] <gimmulf> Flannel:  hmm nothing happens i know use (ctrl+a) + (shift+s) :)
[04:14] <malice> !widget
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <grimboy> !tell jacie_ about easyubuntu
[04:14] <gimmulf> Flannel:  the shell just freezez
[04:14] <malice> !widgets
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Homer> ryanakca, it runs without xwindows and on all terminals
[04:14] <talon> i wanna make a file server for our hospital....
[04:14] <Homer> err all shell interfaces
[04:14] <conner_> talon, if you're setting up a file server, will the client machines be Windows?
[04:14] <fiendskull9> hey im compiling fluxbox from source (the latest svn)
[04:15] <jacie_> grimboy, it is saying no plugin installed to handle mp3
[04:15] <fiendskull9> and when i run autogen.sh
[04:15] <ryanakca> Homer: yes, I know that... I'm writing up a course for next weekend's classroom... so CLI?
[04:15] <fiendskull9> it sais i need libtoolize
[04:15] <grimboy> jacie_, If you download and run that application, tick all the boxes.
[04:15] <fiendskull9> but thats not in the repos
[04:15] <Flannel> gimmulf: believe you need two terminals open first, ctrl-a c to create a secon
[04:15] <nozorro> talon: read up on how to set up nfs, or samba if your site has windows machines
[04:15] <Homer> well it runs on CLI but it is a GUI :P
[04:15] <grimboy> jacie_, You have a pm from ubotu
[04:15] <ryanakca> Homer: It's kindof in the middle...
[04:15] <talon> linux...and 2 windows machine....
[04:15] <talon> samba?
[04:15] <jacie_> grimboy, what application?
[04:15] <stanner> xgl help!
[04:15] <Homer> it's for making pretty user friendly CLI applications
[04:15] <grimboy> !easyubuntu
[04:15] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:15] <conner_> talon, Windows boxes are easier if you use Samba.
[04:15] <nozorro> talon: samba provides windows shares
[04:16] <fiendskull9> exit
[04:16] <grimboy> jacie_, Try going to http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ and download it.
[04:16] <talon> any body knows a hospital management program?
[04:16] <fiendskull9> quit
[04:16] <malice> I want widgets
[04:16] <conner_> talon, no idea on hospital management programs.
[04:16] <nozorro> talon: this kind of specialized app may be hard to find on linux, but maybe there is one
[04:17] <Homer> malice, http://www.gtk.org/
[04:17] <malice> ty
[04:17] <Homer> malice, np
[04:17] <lufis> what are you guys' favorite porn sites?
[04:17] <grimboy> jacie_, Sorry I've got to go now. But if you still have any questions then the others on this channel will probably answer. Bye!
[04:17] <compu73rg33k> the Desktop CD at http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ is a live CD, correct?
[04:17] <talon> ok....any body here who knows professional write?
[04:17] <w30> gu014, is it busy? are you booted on a cdrom or in the cdrom directory in your filebrowser ?
[04:18] <jacie_> grimboy see ya ty for the help
[04:18] <nozorro> talon: ???
[04:18] <gu014> w30: no, i restarted multiple times
[04:18] <gu014> i was backing up a dvd...the task completed
[04:18] <lufis> what's the best kind of porn?
[04:18] <gu014> i went to eject the disk and nothing happened
[04:18] <gu014> ?
[04:19] <gran1> Does anyone know how to convert a DOS plaintext file to a UNIX (linux) one?
[04:19] <compu73rg33k> where can i download the live CD for ubuntu? is the regular "desktop cd" live?
[04:19] <lufis> gran1: contrary to popular belief DOS does not stand for dicks on socks
[04:19] <vasi> compu73rg33k: yes
[04:19] <Luakagon> how can I remove a program that won't close? :'(
[04:19] <jacie_> can someone tell me how to get a media player for my mp3 music the one that came with ubuntu keeps talking about missing plugin
[04:19] <__mikem> killall nameofprogram
[04:19] <compu73rg33k> thank you vasi
[04:20] <talon> who can tell me a way on how to paste text on documents by simply pressing a button? (e.g. *press 1* and blah blah blah will be written)
[04:20] <nozorro> compu73rg33k: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:20] <lufis> talon: ctrl + v
[04:20] <w30> gu014, donno, try at the command line eject /dev/hdc or maybe eject /dev/hdd
[04:20] <gran1> lufis: How is that relevent to my question
[04:20] <lufis> gran1: i dunno, you asked
[04:20] <gu014> yeh, tried those
[04:20] <vasi> gran1:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/tofrodos
[04:21] <sinisterr> lufis: stfu
[04:21] <lufis> sinisterr: omfg flaimbait NO DIGG
[04:21] <gran1> I'll try my question again
[04:21] <gran1> Does anyone know how to convert a DOS plaintext file to a UNIX (linux) one?
[04:21] <vasi> gran1: did you not see my answer?
[04:21] <vasi> gran1: install the package 'tofrodos'
[04:21] <gran1> vasi: Must of missed it, I see it now, thanks!
[04:21] <lufis> gran1: just open it in emacs or something
[04:21] <vasi> np
[04:22] <Mike__> hey, I just switched to ubuntu...yes, i'm a noob.  Does anyone know hoe to set up a nibbles network game
[04:22] <talon> not that kind....i mean instant text pasting.....like press *1* and heart problems will be written or press *2* and the patients name will be written....its easier document writing for doctors
[04:22] <w30> gu014, one more thought, sometimes a cd writer program will scramble the brains on a cdrom drive and you need an actual power off on the drive. i.e. pull the plug at the wall.
[04:23] <gran1> Vasi: Just tried it, worked like a charm. Thanks again!
[04:23] <lufis> Mike__: grab a lot of lube, get a funnel and some cheese puffs...
[04:23] <vasi> gran1: great!
[04:23] <Mike__> sounds awsome
[04:23] <lufis> god imso drunk
[04:23] <Flannel> gimmulf: foudn this tutorial: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/34
[04:23] <gu014> w30: ok, should i just unplug power from the computer or the actual power from the dvd drive?
[04:23] <lufis> wtf is ubuntu is that like... a mixed drink rofl
[04:24] <gran1> Lufis: Ubuntu is a Linux distro that is debian based.
[04:24] <nozorro> talon: you are really talking about specialized software here. does your regular word processor insert heart problems after pressing 1?
[04:24] <lufis> yes i'll take a ubunto, very dry
[04:24] <gimmulf> thanks Flannel
[04:24] <w30> gu014, at the wall ...
[04:24] <gu014> ok
[04:25] <jacie_> can someone tell me how to install and get a mp3 player?
[04:25] <talon> professional write for dos does...but doctors here want to switch to linux.....
[04:25] <lufis> so a nerd walks into a bar and the bartender says... hey you, can you ssh me into my h0me srvr
[04:25] <nozorro> talon: and you are the sys admin of the site?
[04:25] <ubuntu321> Hey i can't work out how to install windows programs using wine?
[04:25] <talon> we want to have the functionality of novell netware....for free....
[04:25] <compu73rg33k> where can I get a torrent for unbuntu desktop cd for x86/
[04:26] <lufis> compu73rg33k: google is your friend
[04:26] <talon> am a learning student...only person who knows linux here....
[04:26] <jacie_>  can someone tell me how to install and get a mp3 player?
[04:26] <__mikem> Does anyone know where the ops are?
[04:26] <Flannel> lufis: take general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please, this is only for support
[04:26] <compu73rg33k> lufis: yeah but I don't want a bad torrent. I'm kinda looking fore an alternative to isolinux.org which is offline currently
[04:26] <nozorro> talon: do some thourough research before switching to linux. will save you and your patients a lot of headaches. also novell now provides a linux distribution.
[04:27] <lufis> flannel: dude i didn't even know that place existed
[04:27] <Flannel> lufis: fair enough, now you know ;)
[04:27] <ubuntu321> Hey i can't work out how to install windows programs using wine?
[04:27] <lufis> flannel kthnx luveu
[04:27] <jacie_>  can someone tell me how to install and get a mp3 player?
[04:27] <fyrfaktry> kthxbye
[04:27] <compu73rg33k> ah nvm I found some on the ubuntu website
[04:27] <Homer> !easyubuntu
[04:27] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:27] <compu73rg33k> jacie_: any program should play mp3's...
[04:27] <Homer> jacie_,
[04:28] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: make sure you have wine installed (sudo apt-get install wine) and then run the windows program like this: wine path/to/windows/program/.exe
[04:28] <jacie_> the one on this says it don't have the plugin?
[04:28] <talon> yes....i was planning to run xubuntu on our business computers and a samba file server for easier backups....problem is an easier document processor.....any ideas?
[04:28] <Homer> jacie_
[04:28] <jacie_> this is my very first time on ubuntu
[04:28] <Homer> goto that site
[04:28] <jacie_> what site?
[04:28] <Homer> !easyubuntu
[04:28] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:28] <nozorro> talon: easier how?
[04:29] <jacie_> okay do i copy and paste all that into the terminal homer?
[04:29] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: do i have to put the program exe on linux first. For example put it on a pendrive then trasfer it 2 ubuntu?
[04:29] <w30> jacie_, totem should play mp3s and should be installed on base ubuntu
[04:30] <Homer> jacie_: yes
[04:30] <talon> easier....like if doctors want to write: "the x-ray shows that the chest cavity is clear", the can do it with a single click of a button...
[04:30] <jacie_> w30 it says missing plugins
[04:30] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: you can run the installer for the windows program if you so which.
[04:30] <PH> =O I need help
[04:30] <jacie_> okay homer
[04:31] <talon> sorry...im kinda unexperienced....im just a 15 year old student......
[04:31] <PH> Im on a live CD right now and I need to mount my hard drive to modify a cfg file I messed up...can someone tell me how to make an fstab entry so I can do that?  I already know the drive name
[04:31] <Flannel> !tell jacie_ about mp3
[04:31] <ubuntu321> so say i put msn on my desktop in ubuntu what do i put in the terminal?
[04:31] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: and wine will install it in a Program Files directory that gets created somewhere underneath you home dir under .wine
[04:31] <Lilandra> hi, where do you find hardware requirements for ubuntu?
[04:31] <Flannel> jacie_: read the link ubotu has sent you, and it will explain how to install mp3 codecs
[04:31] <nozorro> talon: but i told you already .... this kind of sw is rare on linux. either you get knowledgeable beforehand, or you hire someone who is. as a student, you don't want to be responsible for the IT of a company, even a small one, trust me.
[04:31] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: so say i put msn on my desktop in ubuntu what do i put in the terminal
[04:32] <gran1> vasi: You still around?
[04:32] <w30> jacie_, get on synaptic and look for totem plugins, if none show up then you need to get the extra repositories configured for synaptic
[04:32] <vasi> gran1: yep
[04:32] <gran1> Vasi: Do you know much about apache?
[04:32] <Homer> jacie_L
[04:32] <vasi> gran1: some
[04:32] <PH> Im on a live CD right now and I need to mount my hard drive to modify a cfg file I messed up...can someone tell me how to make an fstab entry so I can do that?  I already know the drive name
[04:32] <Flannel> gran1: what you need help with?
[04:32] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: I have never tried installing MSN Messenger, but should it work, then you type in your terminalP: wine path/to/msn/messenger/prog.exe
[04:32] <nozorro> talon: this is not meant to turn you off, just trying to save you big trouble :-)
[04:32] <ryanakca> in emacs, how do you make a line cut at 64 chars? I know theres a command for running it on 1 line, and then one for it continually running, and wrapping at the end of each line...
[04:32] <Homer> the easyubuntu thing is really easy
[04:33] <gu014> w30: tried that to no avail. although, when i booted back up it had mounted the disc that was in the drive? i attempted to eject the disc(right click-> eject)...also to no avail....
[04:33] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: k ill try
[04:33] <Homer> literarly copy and paste that terminal code and a GUI will pop up, select what you want, and it downloads and installs it
[04:33] <jacie_> homer, i just downloaded easyubuntu and tried to play a song and it wont play
[04:33] <gran1> Vasi: Do you know if I lighten up the permissions in my folder where my served files are so I can access it from my windows computer is, will that be creating a security risk from outside my house? (IE allow someone to put their own files on my server remotely)
[04:33] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: the path is whereever the MSN Messenger installer puts the executable - I don't know what that will be without trying it myself (which I won't be doing!)
[04:33] <Homer> did a GUI pop up
[04:33] <PH> Im on a live CD right now and I need to mount my hard drive to modify a cfg file I messed up...can someone tell me how to make an fstab entry so I can do that?  I already know the drive name
[04:33] <dicklaw17> hey everyone
[04:33] <dicklaw17> i got a question
[04:33] <talon> well could openoffice do the job?
[04:33] <freshtonic> ununtu321: you could just use GAIM: it will work with your msn messenger acount
[04:33] <gran1> Vasi: I ask because im setting up samba to do this so I can edit the website from my windows computer
[04:33] <vasi> gran1: i don't really know much about windows and linux interacting, i'm a mac head :-)
[04:34] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: so do you choose the path
[04:34] <PH> Im on a live CD right now and I need to mount my hard drive to modify a cfg file I messed up...can someone tell me how to make an fstab entry so I can do that?  I already know the drive name
[04:34] <talon> could open office do the job?
[04:34] <Flannel> gran1: if the files are readable by the '
[04:34] <dicklaw17> can you boot from the cd on a imac, or can it even be used on a imac?
[04:34] <Flannel> gran1: if the files are readable by the 'www-data' user, they are readable via apache
[04:34] <b0ysc0ut> what to expect from Edgy Eft?
[04:34] <PeanutHorst> haha
[04:34] <Flannel> dicklaw17: yep
[04:34] <vasi> dicklaw17:  the ppc version should work fine on an imac
[04:34] <Milktea> !pastebin
[04:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:34] <ryanakca> in emacs, how do you make a line cut at 64 chars? I know theres a command for running it on 1 line, and then one for it continually running, and wrapping at the end of each line...
[04:34] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: the Windows installer for msn messenger probably chooses the path.  Hang on a sec, I will have a wuick look on my system and see where wine puts it's programs...
[04:34] <gran1> Flannel: What im asking is if I make the folder writeable by everyone useing CHMOD, will that make it so outsiders could put files into the folder?
[04:35] <PH> Im on a live CD right now and I need to mount my hard drive to modify a cfg file I messed up...can someone tell me how to make an fstab entry so I can do that?  I already know the drive name
[04:35] <nozorro> talon: openoffice is quite resource-hungry. for the type of customized work you want to do, i guess it can be adapted. but if *you* are in charge, better test it all beforehand
[04:35] <brian98> Hello all
[04:35] <ubuntu321> k
[04:35] <talon> abiword?
[04:35] <maple1> they do it in the congo
[04:35] <PeanutHorst> "Ubuntu is provided as an ISO file. You'll need to use burning software such as Nero or CDBurnerXP Pro to burn the file to CD-R"
[04:35] <Flannel> gran1: with the right commands, yeah.  But, if youre just looking to read them, why do they need to be writable by everyone?
[04:35] <PeanutHorst> what a load... i just used cdrecord. but not without a little help i must admit *cough cough*
[04:35] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: on my Ubuntu Dapper system, wine installs windows progs under: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files$
[04:36] <Flannel> ryanakca: you might try #emacs they would know more
[04:36] <Milktea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23036
[04:36] <Milktea> Can someone tell me
[04:36] <Milktea> what's wrong with it
[04:36] <gran1> Flannel: I want to be able to plop files into this folder from my windows computer using samba. I have it all set up so I can right now but when I go to do it, it tells me acess denied (I can only read them)
[04:36] <ryanakca> Flannel: I'm there...
[04:36] <w30> gu014, you better do that again and get that disk outa there while it is just starting to boot (before the bios and boot loader get done)
[04:36] <talon> abiword on zenwalk, xubuntu or DSL could save me  a lot of resources huh?
[04:36] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: so what do i do with that information
[04:36] <Flannel> talon: you can install abiword on ubuntu
[04:36] <ryanakca> Flannel: they haven't answered... since this channel is much more lively... I thought I'd ask here :)
[04:36] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: so after the MSN messenger install completes (assuming that it actually works, wine isn't perfect) then there will be a new folder underneath the Program Files directory
[04:36] <PH> Im on a live CD right now and I need to mount my hard drive to modify a cfg file I messed up...can someone tell me how to make an fstab entry so I can do that?  I already know the drive name
[04:37] <w30> gu014, maybe the cdrom is trying to autorun or something
[04:37] <nozorro> talon: abiword is good for small projects, letters etc. it's no easily adaptable for non-programmers. as i said, install it (on your home machine) and test it
[04:37] <gu014> it seems that way
[04:37] <lostinc> whats the reop to add for the plf?
[04:37] <ubuntu321> frsottonic: atm my msn installer.exe is just sitting on my desktop
[04:37] <talon> yeah but ubuntu (gnome) is kinda resouce hungry..
[04:37] <vasi> Milktea: you see it says "rtaudio/RtAudio.cpp:3421:28: error: alsa/asoundlib.h: No such file or directory" ?
[04:37] <gu014> w30: well, i guess i will have to get a paper clip in there and open the tray
[04:37] <dicklaw17> hey vasi
[04:37] <dicklaw17> answer my im
[04:37] <vasi> that means you're missing the file alsa/asoundlib.h
[04:37] <Milktea> oh..
[04:37] <Flannel> gran1: that;s because you cant, as your user, write to /var/www, you can make a folder that you can write to in it, by making a folder, and chowning it to you, or whatnot.  You can also use groups to allow certain users, but still not *anyone* to write to it
[04:37] <freshtonic> so when you want to run msn messenger you will enter in your terminal something like the following command : wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/[MSN MESSENGER FOLDER] /[MSNMESSENGEREXE] .exe
[04:37] <chibiace> gnome is getting better with resources every release
[04:37] <Milktea> So how do I get my ALSA sound lib
[04:37] <Milktea> I thought I had it
[04:37] <Milktea> o.0
[04:37] <vasi> Milktea: so you go to http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:38] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: atm my msn installer.exe is just sitting on my desktop
[04:38] <talon> but i could set up a thin client running ubuntu on our legacy systems huh?
[04:38] <gran1> Flannel: Can I just let a specific user write to it? (not group)
[04:38] <talon> saving me all the possible hardware hassles....
[04:38] <vasi> Milktea: and in the search box at the bottom of the page, put in the file you need
[04:38] <Milktea> ok
[04:38] <Tidus> ubuntu321: amsn on linux handles webcams and audio chat
[04:38] <Milktea> its under sound, I know that
[04:38] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: well to run the installer, simply run: wine ~/Desktop/installer.exe
[04:38] <vasi> Milktea: and it tells you which packages you want to install :-)
[04:38] <nozorro> talon: yes, but you need a beefier server. you save hw hassles but get quite a lot of admin work
[04:38] <Milktea> oh cool
[04:38] <w30> gu014, yah. that'll work :=)
[04:38] <chibiace> amsn has audio chat?
[04:38] <ubuntu321> ok
[04:39] <gran1> Flannel: If so what would be the command
[04:39] <Tidus> chibiace: it handles video, so it should do audio as well
[04:39] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: see if that works
[04:39] <PeanutHorst> is Edgy 6,06 ?
[04:39] <vasi> dicklaw17: sorry, i don't think i got a message from you
[04:39] <dicklaw17> the imac has no os on it, and it wont automatically boot from the cd, can someone please help me??
[04:39] <Flannel> PeanutHorst: 6.10
[04:39] <BHSPitLappy> PeanutHorst, 6.10
[04:39] <Tidus> PeanutHorst: no, dapper is 6.06
[04:39] <BHSPitLappy> PeanutHorst, 2006 / 10 (october)
[04:39] <gran1> Flannel: Would be be like "chown <username>"?
[04:39] <Flannel> gran1: it'd be a bunch of commands, mkdir, chown, etc
[04:39] <vasi> dicklaw17: hold down the 'C' key while rebooting the computer with the CD in
[04:39] <talon> could a one gb ram, pentium 4 w/ HT run 6 systems?
[04:39] <gu014> w30: got it!
[04:39] <gu014> lol
[04:40] <gu014> w30: weird!!!!
[04:40] <dicklaw17> vasi: for the imac that will work?
[04:40] <vasi> dicklaw17: it should
[04:40] <nozorro> talon: i doubt it. -- why do you insist on switching the organization to linux anyway?
[04:40] <vasi> make sure you have the CD for the right platform
[04:40] <dicklaw17> what f that doesnt work
[04:40] <w30> gu014, I don't feel so good with my fingers and I do a lot of double pushing on buttons and it torques me when I'm trying to get a bootable disk out and the thing boots any way
[04:40] <vasi> so if your imac is a powerpc, you need the powerpc CD
[04:40] <dicklaw17> ho
[04:40] <vasi> if it's an intel imac, you need the intel CD
[04:41] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: it says : wine: cannot find '/root/Desktop/Install_Messenger_nous.exe'
[04:41] <BHSPitLappy> splitty
[04:41] <__mikem> !ops
[04:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:41] <gu014> w30: its weird since it was a dvd and i never had that problem before...maybe it has some sort of autoloading dvd install or soemtin
[04:41] <BHSPitLappy> wait
[04:41] <BHSPitLappy> not a split
[04:41] <nekostar> !paste
[04:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:41] <Luakagon> I bet bghf did something bad to make all those people disconnect
[04:41] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: do you always run as root?
[04:41] <ubuntu321> ya
[04:41] <BHSPitLappy> Luakagon, der, you think so?
[04:41] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: yea
[04:42] <Homer> WARNING! Received a malformed DCC request from bghf.
[04:42] <brian98> weird
[04:42] <Polaris> Can someone tell me what file system Dapper Drake uses?  Ext2 or ext2?
[04:42] <dicklaw17> hey vassi
[04:42] <Luakagon> BHSPitLappy, uh huh :)
[04:42] <__mikem> WHERE IN GODS NAMES ARE THE UBUNTU CHANEL OPPERATORS!!!
[04:42] <Polaris> Er...ext2 or ext3
[04:42] <jbroome> Polaris: ext3
[04:42] <dicklaw17> so would i imac be under power pc?
[04:42] <Polaris> Thanks
[04:42] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: it's not the best idea.  Anyway, I just tried installing MSN Messenger under wine, and it didn't work
[04:42] <Flannel> __mikem: Calm down.  He's already gone anyway.  Freenode staff take care of those usually
[04:42] <talon> why doesn't dosemu work properly?
[04:42] <BHSPitLappy> __mikem, what could a channel op really do at this point? a ban would be kind of pointless
[04:43] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: it complained about not being run on Windows XP
[04:43] <halorgium> i'm having trouble with python-xdg, and pyversions
[04:43] <brian98> ubuntu321: Gaim is better once you get used to it ;)
[04:43] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: o ok, what programs wuf u recommend installing?
[04:43] <vasi> dicklaw17: when did you get your imac? is it new or old?
[04:43] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu321, aMSN
[04:44] <dicklaw17> it was from a aucton
[04:44] <dicklaw17> imac 3
[04:44] <Crema10> hello, i just instaleld swf-player to use on browser, I restarted teh browser, but flash still not working, any idea as to wahts going on?
[04:44] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: install GAIM.  It should come with your Ubuntu system, have a look under your Gnome menu: Applications/Internet/Gaim Instant Messenger
[04:44] <freshtonic> otherwise you can uninstall it using sudo apt-get install gaim
[04:44] <mutk> Quick fix to avoid the annoyances - TURN OFF auto accept DCC. In fact do it anyway..
[04:44] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: sorry i went wat wud b a windows prgram that u hav installed that i cud install?
[04:45] <Milktea> vasi: I have all the packages it told me to install
[04:45] <talon> any body here knows an addicting app (wine, celestia, google, ie 4 linux, gimp 2.3)
[04:45] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu321, MSN Messenger 7.0 is the highest version that works with wine
[04:45] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: I don't have any windows programs :)
[04:45] <BHSPitLappy> just use aMSN
[04:45] <vasi> dicklaw17: it's probably PPC then
[04:45] <ubuntu321> freshtonic: ok cya
[04:45] <dicklaw17> hold on
[04:45] <vasi> Milktea: ok, so is it working now?
[04:45] <Milktea> no i mean
[04:45] <freshtonic> ubuntu321: no worries. cya
[04:45] <Milktea> i had them before
[04:45] <Milktea> when i had the problem
[04:45] <Milktea> i still have the problem
[04:45] <vasi> oooh, ok...hm
[04:46] <w30> Crema10, there is a flash plugin for Firefox, maybe you need that to call the flashplayer
[04:46] <vasi> Milktea: so you have the file /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h ?
[04:46] <Crema10> w30: i did a apt-cache search for a plugin, i only got swf-player
[04:46] <Milktea> let me check
[04:47] <Milktea> nop i dont
[04:47] <Crema10> i did an apt-cache search flashplayer and i get nothing
[04:47] <Milktea> i dont even have an alsa folder
[04:48] <newbuntie> I used ntfsmount to mount a windows partition, how do I delete a directory on that partition?
[04:48] <nozorro> newbuntie: you don't :-)
[04:48] <nozorro> newbuntie: this function is still in beta right now
[04:48] <sethk> newbuntie, you want to destroy your ntfs file system?  :)
[04:48] <newbuntie> nozorro: can't be done?
[04:49] <vasi> Milktea: then i don't think you have the package libasound2-dev
[04:49] <newbuntie> sethk: i'm willing to risk it :)
[04:49] <raich> some ideas to make dapper run faster?? it gets slower the mo
[04:49] <maple1> has anyone actually damaged an ntfs system by writing to it with linux?
[04:49] <vasi> which you should have found on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:49] <sethk> newbuntie, from linux, don't.
[04:49] <vasi> :-)
[04:49] <sethk> maple1, oh, sure
[04:49] <raich> some ideas to make dapper run faster?? it gets really slow within a few hours of running
[04:49] <sethk> maple1, I've tested it several times.
[04:49] <sethk> maple1, it's easy to damage it.
[04:49] <Milktea> oh i clicked on that link
[04:49] <Milktea> and it told me which packages it depended on
[04:49] <Milktea> and i got those
[04:49] <Milktea> >_<
[04:49] <Milktea> my bad
[04:49] <sethk> maple1, I haven't checked the latest versions of some things
[04:50] <vasi> heh, just do 'apt-get install libasound2-dev', it will take care of the deps automagically
[04:50] <dicklaw17> vasi
[04:50] <w30> Crema10, in synsptic search type in firefox and it should list the firefox plugins packages also
[04:50] <vasi> Milktea: i've gotta go now, my RSI is acting up
[04:50] <dicklaw17> i do have the correct cd but i still cant get it to boot up from the cd
[04:50] <raich> some ideas to make dapper run faster?? it gets really slow within a few hours of running
[04:50] <Milktea> vasi: Okay, thanks for your help :D
[04:50] <dicklaw17> and the pressing c didnt work either
[04:51] <Crema10> w30: Kubuntu didnt come with Synaptic  :(
[04:51] <Flannel> Crema10: use adep
[04:51] <maple1> use adept
[04:51] <Flannel> adept
[04:51] <Crema10> Flannel: ok let me try that
[04:51] <dicklaw17> I NEED SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT INSTALLING ON A G3 MAC
[04:52] <nekostar> dicklaw17,
[04:52] <nekostar> thats just the ppc branch
[04:52] <nekostar> ^^
[04:52] <nekostar> if i recall correctly
[04:52] <dicklaw17> huh?
[04:52] <nekostar> and quit the caps OK?
[04:52] <nekostar> g3 mac should be the ibm power pc cpu right ?
[04:53] <dicklaw17> yes and i have that cd
[04:53] <Crema10> Flannel: there's no option to search for anything in Adept
[04:53] <dicklaw17> and i tried pressing and holding c dring boot up
[04:53] <dragonriot> I cannot run make menuconfig in a console... any idea why that might be?
[04:53] <jacie_> I need help on a mp3 player this is my very first time using ubuntu i have no idea really what to do or what things mean i'd appreciate if someone would help me out
[04:53] <Crema10> wait, i may just done the updater...
[04:53] <Flannel> Crema10: no idea, sorry.  Try asking in #kubuntu, I'm only familiar with ubuntu tools
[04:53] <dicklaw17> im just getting a face wth a question mark
[04:53] <sethk> dragonriot, probably you haven't installed ncurses and/or ncurses-dev packages
[04:54] <jacie_> the media player on my computer says it's missing a plugin i downloaded the easyubuntu and it did absolutely nothing..?
[04:54] <dicklaw17> nekostar, did you read what i wrote?
[04:54] <nekostar> pressing and holding c ??
[04:54] <nekostar> check the boot order on your comp
[04:55] <nekostar> set it to boot from cdrom
[04:55] <dicklaw17> yes i tried that didnt work, and all i get is a face with a ?
[04:55] <nekostar> and take out boot from hard drive completely
[04:55] <nekostar> just temporarally
[04:55] <dicklaw17> i dont know how to do it
[04:55] <techno> hey anyone here?
[04:55] <raich> some ideas to make dapper run faster?? it gets really slow within a few hours of running
[04:56] <techno> hey anyone I got a MAJOR NOOB QUESTION.
[04:56] <Flannel> techno: best to just ask your question, instead of asking to ask ;)
[04:56] <techno> I just installed unbunu and then I loged in and now I'am just in a black screen.
[04:56] <techno> ubuntu*
[04:56] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone tell me what kernel modules are, and why an installation script might be telling me I dont have them?
[04:57] <nekostar> dicklaw17, check google
[04:57] <BHSPitLappy> techno, sounds like your resolution might be set badly
[04:57] <nekostar> PhantasyHawk,  what script
[04:57] <BHSPitLappy> techno, ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:57] <jacie_> my music player wont play mp3s?
[04:57] <dicklaw17> ok
[04:57] <techno> well there is white text on the screen
[04:57] <Flannel> !tell jacie_ about mp3
[04:57] <techno> looks like a windows command promt
[04:57] <Flannel> techno: whats the text say?
[04:57] <Crema10> Flannel: i downloaded and isntalled libflash-mozpluin but still doesnt work
[04:57] <PhantasyHawk> Nekostar: Its an install script for an intel video driver - the log file says I dont have a kernel config
[04:57] <w30> jacie_, you need the package "libflash-mozplugin"
[04:57] <shadowhywind> anyone good with audio issues?
[04:57] <Crema10> Flannel: do i have to instlal anything else, i cant see anything that would apply in this list that Adept gave me
[04:57] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:58] <nekostar> that should get em
[04:58] <nekostar> i believe
[04:58] <PhantasyHawk> Alright, ill try that, thanks
[04:58] <nekostar> and then restart that install script
[04:58] <nekostar> np ^6;
[04:58] <jacie_> where do i find that w30
[04:58] <nekostar> ^^;; ****
[04:58] <Crema10> Flannel: whats the actual file name of the plug-in?
[04:58] <shadowhywind> when i play any sounds it plays though my speakers instead of my headphones...
[04:59] <Flannel> Crema10: sorry, I had no idea what you were originally doing, just that Adept is in kubuntu ;)
[04:59] <techno> uh. alot first it booted then had me log in then its like "the programs included w/ the ubuntu system are free software etc etc) Ununtu comes w/ no warranty  to run command as admin (user "root" etc)
[04:59] <PhantasyHawk> Nekostar: Its still giving me the same message and error file in the log =/
[04:59] <nekostar> did it install anything ??
[05:00] <PhantasyHawk> I already had them installed
[05:00] <Flannel> techno: no errors?  which ISO did you use?
[05:00] <Crema10> Flannel: i dont get it hehe , what do i need to do? :(
[05:00] <nekostar> then yer missing something else
[05:00] <lostinc> Is there a audio ripper/encoder that can rip multiple cds to the harddrive while encoding to ogg or mp3?
[05:00] <Flannel> Crema10: I have no idea.  You'll have to ask someone who does know
[05:00] <Crema10> ohh ok
[05:00] <techno> alternate install cd. from this link
[05:00] <techno> http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/6.06/
[05:00] <w30> jacie_, you should try that in synaptic or whatever you use for package management, If nothing else try apt-get libflash-mozplugin at a terminal.
[05:00] <Muteki> Hello, I'm a linux n00b. How do I go about installing display adapter drivers? m(_ _)m
[05:00] <techno> no errors installed without a problem
[05:00] <nekostar> make sure linux-kernel-headers is in
[05:00] <Crema10> anybody know what the name of the file is for the flash plug in for mozilla firefox?
[05:01] <jacie_> w30, thank you i appreciate it
[05:01] <PhantasyHawk> Neko: If it helps, it screws up while trying to compile the agpgart module and DRM kernel modules
[05:01] <Muteki> if anyone can point me in the right direction i shall be out
[05:01] <Dimensions> guys why is n't /dev/ttyACM created automatically when i plug a usb gprs modem of my phone ?
[05:01] <w30> Crema10, libflash-mozplugin
[05:02] <nekostar> make sure u also have in the linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:02] <jacie_> w30, it said this root@ubuntu:/home/jacie # apt-get libflash-mozplugin
[05:02] <jacie_> E: Invalid operation libflash-mozplugin
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Dimensions,  i would guess it dont know what to do with the device. so its not loading the right modules.
[05:02] <Crema10> w30: ok let me try to find that in Adept
[05:03] <Crema10> w30: it says that its installed .... hmm maybe i have to restart my desktop?
[05:03] <tr0nic> where can i get the gcc binary package
[05:03] <tr0nic> from
[05:04] <mtholdenss> howcome when my computer goes into screensaver mode it goes on then after a while it goes black, i want the pretty screensaver to continue...\
[05:04] <orangey> hey all!
[05:04] <orangey> I have many, many lines that look like this in my syslog:  Inbound In:eth0 Out: Port:5949 Source:196.44.128.220 Destination:192.168.250.164 Length:72 TOS:0x00
[05:04] <orangey> how can I diable them?
[05:04] <Dimensions> Dr_Willis: so what should i do to make it recognise ? its problem with all of ubuntu dists they dont load ttyACM0 for usb gprs modems
[05:05] <Lilandra> hey if i'm running ubuntu can i upgrade the kernel to 2.6.17?
[05:05] <PhantasyHawk> Neko: I just installed the headers, and its the same error again =/
[05:05] <nekostar> um
[05:05] <mtholdenss> how do we know what kernel we have?
[05:05] <nekostar> hey Amaranth
[05:05] <jbroome> mtholdenss: uname -a
[05:05] <nekostar> he's real good PhantasyHawk
[05:05] <nekostar> XD
[05:05] <Schalken> Lilandra: if its in the repos then sure
[05:05] <orangey> those log items also appear in my kernel messages.
[05:05] <orangey> Lilandra: only if you go with edgy, which is probably not a great idea right now.
[05:06] <Lilandra> well, what i meant is, is it in the repos
[05:06] <Lilandra> oh ok thanks orangey
[05:07] <mtholdenss> whats the latest kernel?
[05:07] <nekostar> btw PhantasyHawk
[05:07] <nekostar> why are you compiling it
[05:07] <nekostar> is there no package in the repositories for it
[05:07] <nekostar> ?
[05:07] <w30> mtholdenss, I'll bet power saving is coming on, can you shut off powersaving on the video?
[05:07] <orangey> back to that issue of the logs.. how can I get my firewall logs NOT to show up in my syslog or dmesg??
[05:07] <nekostar> or do you need one thats a bit more up to date
[05:07] <nekostar> b/c
[05:07] <nekostar> mebbie yer missing something more
[05:07] <nekostar> and maybe its looking in the wrong place for those
[05:07] <techno> anyone know my problem, I want to play w/ linux but Im in a black screen. (looks like the command promt for windows) It appeared after I logined at the black screen/
[05:08] <PhantasyHawk> Neko: No...its an onboard intel card, and its the best I can do until I have money for a card that will have drivers in the repos
[05:08] <mtholdenss> w30 i can see the screensaver continueing after i move the mouse and it asks for password so i dunno, my power saving is set to 30 minutes it could be my monitor...
[05:08] <Milktea> How do I write a bin to run a certain file
[05:08] <Lilandra> i think my comptuer doesnt like the kernel
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Dimensions,  find what module some other disrto is loading for it - perhaps. and see if loading that same module under ubuntu works.
[05:09] <w30> mtholdenss, have you got both gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver going at the same time?
[05:10] <shadowhywind> any have any ideas why i can only play sounds through my speakers even thought my headphones are pluged in?
[05:10] <Dimensions> ummm...
[05:10] <Milktea> Are there any other good IRC clients besides GAIM, Kopete, and Xchat?
[05:10] <Schalken> anyone have any idea about this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254399 ?
[05:10] <w30> mtholdenss, maybe one screensaver is set to blank screen
[05:10] <Dimensions> okay Dr_Willis thanks ... how i am going to load it automatically ?
[05:10] <rofl0r_> Milktea, lostirc
[05:11] <Milktea> okay
[05:11] <nekostar> PhantasyHawk,
[05:11] <nekostar> did you try searching the forums ?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Dimensions,  trivial... theres a modules file in /etc thats got a list of auto loaded modules. :P
[05:11] <nekostar> shadowhywind, wierd....
[05:11] <shadowhywind> tell me about it
[05:11] <nekostar> usually thats something that is defined by where u plug em in
[05:12] <nekostar> so that the sound card detects the headphones
[05:12] <nekostar> try another set of headphones
[05:12] <PhantasyHawk> Neko: Thats where I'm going next, I usually follow a Wiki->IRC->Forums level when looking for help, because they usually give straight easy answers in that order
[05:12] <shadowhywind> i just thought of that nekostar
[05:12] <Dimensions> and what is name of that module :S
[05:12] <nekostar> yeah ok
[05:12] <nekostar> PhantasyHawk, lol ok
[05:12] <ketsugi> How do I mark out multi-line comments in Python?
[05:12] <nekostar> sorry im not much help !_!
[05:13] <jacie_> can someone plz tell me how to get my mp3's playing the website people sent is confusing to me, i just want some quick help
[05:13] <shadowhywind> yah the headphone didn't make a difference
[05:13] <rofl0r_> jacie_, easyubuntu
[05:13] <shadowhywind> even when i pluged in two headphones *have two ports* it didn't work
[05:13] <nekostar> you might be plugging it in the wrong area
[05:13] <jacie_> i did do that and when it installed nothing happend from there
[05:13] <nekostar> make sure that the part that goes to the ears is in the green plug
[05:13] <shadowhywind> nekostar it's a laptop, i have a mic and 2 headphone ports
[05:14] <shadowhywind> and yes i tried the mic port as well
[05:14] <nekostar> mm
[05:14] <Dimensions> Dr_Willis: in /etc wvdial.conf is there too and it says modem = /dev/ttyACM0 ... do u thik if i change it there i should work ?
[05:14] <nekostar> and it doesnt work from either headphone port ???
[05:14] <noiesmo> shadowhywind, you could install alsamixergui it will show all sound output input maybe you need to adjust settings
[05:14] <shadowhywind> nope
[05:14] <nekostar> thats making a little more since
[05:14] <jacie_> if someone could just walk my threw it quickly it would be highly appreciated
[05:14] <nekostar> does it have an audio out to speakers ?
[05:14] <nekostar> besides those jacks
[05:14] <nekostar> b/c
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Dimensions,  thats just telling wvdial where to look.. i got no idea what it SHOULD be looking for. :P that thing may be showing up under a different /dev/ Entry
[05:14] <shadowhywind> i have mkixer installed, and all i have in there is master, pcm, and capture
[05:15] <nekostar> otherwise its probably not supported correctly
[05:15] <nekostar> kmixer ?
[05:15] <shadowhywind> kmix i mean
[05:15] <rofl0r_> jacie_, then ask 4 hrlp in #easyubuntu
[05:15] <rofl0r_> the developer is there, kbrooks
[05:15] <Dimensions> no worries ... thanks Dr_Willis
[05:15] <carlo> anyone have experience with broadcomm wireless cards? I seem to be having trouble copying the firmware files in the right place?!
[05:15] <shadowhywind> hehe
[05:15] <shadowhywind> carlo what chipset do you have
[05:16] <shadowhywind> *i feel like a fricken broadcom expert after getting mine up and working*
[05:16] <nekostar> lol
[05:16] <Milktea> Cool
[05:16] <Milktea> I like lostirc
[05:16] <Milktea> just need to change the colors
[05:16] <Milktea> where do I change the colors?
[05:17] <mzo> I used easyUbuntu to install ATI drivers..  how can I tell if it
[05:17] <mzo> it's using it..
[05:17] <shadowhywind> carlo: whats your card?
[05:17] <mzo> 2d is very choppy..
[05:17] <carlo> shadowhywind chip 94306
[05:17] <carlo> sorry- brownies came out! :)
[05:18] <shadowhywind> caarlo: you said that you had a problem with what location the drivers go?
[05:18] <shadowhywind> also alsa mixer just has master, pcm, and capture so alsamixer isn't going to help
[05:18] <smoked1> i see a package at: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/vpnc but i don't see it in synaptic or apt-cache? why is that and how do I make it show up?
[05:18] <NoFreeNicks> I'm having a heck of a time getting slapd to install and run on ubuntu 6.06, to start it didn't like the schema's supplied by the .deb package, so I had to grab the new ones off the site, and now it doesn't like my berkley database version. Has anyone been able to get slapd up and running?
[05:19] <shadowhywind> i think i might have found the problem with the audia, its a nvidia audio card.. any ideas?
[05:20] <carlo> shadowhywind apparently. I'm not sure where to put the files I've downloaded
[05:20] <shadowhywind> are you trying to use ndiswrapper?
[05:20] <smoked1> So why would a package show up at packages.ubuntu.com but not in synaptic package manager?
[05:21] <carlo> no.. a forum I read advised to delere ndiswrapper and just add the firmware files
[05:21] <nailbags> hi, how do i get a list of installed packages do i can set up another machine with the same programs as this one?
[05:21] <carlo> delter*
[05:21] <mtholdenss> w30 its defintly not set to blank cause it comes on for like 5 minutes then goes black...how would i know if i got xscreensaver and gnoome-screensaver at the same time?
[05:21] <shadowhywind> carlo: so your trying to use the bcm43xx built in driver?
[05:21] <carlo> yes
[05:22] <seanieb64> Hello, when I try to run ejabberd, I get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23039 . Anybody know of a solution?
[05:22] <shadowhywind> *cries* i can't help you then, i had to use ndiswrapper because the build in driver didn't work for my card
[05:22] <carlo> shadowhywind: is yours the same chip?
[05:22] <w30> mtholdenss, at a console type ps aux and look and see if you have a process called gnome-screensaver and or xscreensaver
[05:22] <shadowhywind> i have the 4311 chip
[05:23] <seanieb64> By the way, I'm running on a PPC processor.
[05:23] <OSUKid7> hey... I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 on a PC, and when it boots into the live desktop, it's almost frozen completely... everything is just incredibly slow and I can't even get to launch the install process. I used the same CD to install on another machine yesterday, so I know the CD is good. I've already replaced the CD drive, and no luck. I tried the safe graphics mode and it didn't even get me to X or give me anything. I'm running memtest no
[05:23] <OSUKid7> w but not finding anything wrong yet.
[05:23] <wims> the broadcom driver in the 2.6.17 driver is pretty good
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> OSUKid7,  check dma on the cdrom/hard drives
[05:24] <wims> better than using ndiswrapper
[05:24] <shadowhywind> OSUKid7 does it randomly freeze?
[05:24] <wims> for me anyway
[05:24] <carlo> wims: how did you install it?
[05:24] <shadowhywind> and see for me i have never had any issues with ndiswrapper once i got the drivers working
[05:24] <wims> carlo,  i compiled the kernel from source
[05:25] <wims> the 2.6.17 kernel
[05:25] <tr0nic> where can i get a gcc binary from?
[05:25] <nailbags> how do i get a list of packages installed on my ubuntu system?
[05:25] <tritium> nailbags: dpkg -l
[05:25] <nailbags> tr0nic: apt-get install gcc?
[05:25] <mzo> I installed the ATI driver using easyubuntu, but I don't think xorg is using it...  2d is still very choppy.  How can I tell?
[05:25] <noiesmo> dpkg-query -l
[05:25] <tr0nic> not connected nailbags
[05:25] <carlo> I'm almost to the point of buying a Linksys wireless card for this laptop and getting rid of the brodacomm card
[05:25] <tr0nic> i want it off the web
[05:26] <nailbags> tritium: cheers
[05:26] <wims> carlo have you any experience in compiling your own kernel ?
[05:26] <tr0nic> i really can't find a gcc binary
[05:26] <carlo> not yet.. I'm still learning the basics. I've only been on ubuntu (and linux) for about 2 months
[05:26] <w30> OSUKid7, I have other people say check and see if certain bios settings need to be configured for your motherboard and see if certain options need to be passed to your kernel for that PC.
[05:26] <seanieb64> Hello, when I try to run ejabberd, I get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23039 . Anybody know of a solution?
[05:26] <wims> mzo,  type fglrxinfo in your console
[05:27] <mtholdenss> w30 i got gnome-screensaver....
[05:27] <tritium> !b-e > tr0nic
[05:27] <wims> it should say ati something if it uses the ati driver, probably mesa if it doesn't
[05:27] <eyequeue> tr0nic
[05:27] <tr0nic> ty
[05:27] <tr0nic> what eyequeue
[05:27] <eyequeue> tr0nic, he already told you about build-essential heh
[05:27] <w30> mtholdenss, are you running xscreensaver also?
[05:28] <tr0nic> build-essential ultimately needs gcc
[05:28] <tr0nic> it's not working
[05:28] <rapiscan> Hey guys, I'm using Xinerama to extend my desktop, and my mouse cursor appears to get stuck in my extended monitor.  It won't change to the appropriate cursor icon.  Here is a description in the Ubuntu forums, (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250987) but with no resolution.  Anybody have any ideas?
[05:28] <mtholdenss> xscreensaver wasnt listed when i did ps aux  and i dunno ifam or not...
[05:28] <carlo> wims: perhaps you can help me with another problem I'm not understanding.  "http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[05:28] <OSUKid7> Dr_Willis: sorry, how would I check the dma?
[05:28] <eyequeue> tr0nic, it is a meta-package which should pull that in and more
[05:28] <mtholdenss> w30 xscreensaver wasnt listed when i did ps aux  and i dunno ifam or not...
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> OSUKid7,  hdparm /dev/whatever
[05:28] <tr0nic> it can't pull anything in from anywhere because i'm not connected
[05:29] <eyequeue> tr0nic, ah, i hadn't been aware
[05:29] <wims> carlo that looks pretty strange. Does it happen when you run apt-get ?
[05:30] <tr0nic> so i'm stuffed really .... i'll get there
[05:30] <carlo> wims: any time I try to update any package
[05:30] <mzo> wims, you are right, it's using mesa
[05:30] <w30> mtholdenss, if it's not in ps aux output then it is not running so I donno why your screen goes blank unless powersaving is doing it.
[05:30] <mtholdenss> could it be xgl?
[05:30] <tr0nic> it's reasonable fun anyway bye
[05:30] <OSUKid7> Dr_Willis: alright, and to do this I guess I'd have to boot from another distro's live cd, since I can't even get to a terminal with ubuntu?
[05:31] <wims> carlo,  i think it's something wrong with your sources.list file, it would probably dissapear if you comment out the wine repositories
[05:31] <rapiscan> Any ideas on mouse cursor with xinerama? here is a description of the problem that someone else posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250987
[05:31] <rapiscan> It seems to be reoccuring.
[05:31] <rapiscan> For different users, I mean.
[05:31] <carlo> wims: forgive my ignorace, "comment out"?
[05:32] <jbroome> carlo: put a # in front of the line
[05:32] <wims> if you add a # infront of the line it will be commented out, but that would also mean that apt-get  wouldn't use that repository, which it probably doesn't anyway because of the error
[05:32] <mtholdenss> anyone here know how to wirlessly bridge a net connection to another computer ?
[05:33] <carlo> but I'm getting this error for all repos :(
[05:33] <cvt> has anyone successfully burned a cd and if so, with what app?
[05:33] <tr0nic> !packages
[05:33] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> OSUKid7,  well  somthing sounds real real odd if you cant even get to a terminal.. You may want to try the Alternative/Text installer/cd
[05:33] <mtholdenss> cvt, gnomebaker
[05:34] <eyequeue> cvt, cdrecord
[05:34] <mtholdenss> or just use the file browser to burn a cd
[05:34] <Xenguy> cvt: k3b is awesome
[05:34] <BeShaMo> Hey, I'm having a problem with sound in scummvm, everything else works fine. I start scummvm, no errors but no sound either (I have 2 soundcards and only the second one is working)
[05:34] <cvt> mtholdenss,  serious?
[05:34] <eyequeue> cvt, cdrecord is nice and cli
[05:34] <wims> carlo,  do you use a proxy or something ?
[05:34] <maple1> cvt: nero
[05:35] <mtholdenss> cvt what version of ubuntu u running?
[05:35] <OSUKid7> Dr_Willis: alright, I'll try that. yeah, this seems like a hardware problem to me... but I sure hope not. I'll download the alt cd. thanks.
[05:35] <maple1> 5.10
[05:35] <eyequeue> !info nero
[05:35] <Xenguy> maple1: are you the local troll then?
[05:35] <ubotu> Package nero does not exist in any distro I know
[05:35] <cvt> mtholdenss,  breezy
[05:35] <whyameye> how to do I apt-get the kernel sources and in what directory would they be in?
[05:35] <mtholdenss> cvt upgrade to dapper drake dude...
[05:35] <maple1> Xenguy: yes :(
[05:35] <carlo> wims: no. I have arouter but at this point, I've gone as far as to reset all defaults and disable filtering and security to figure this mess out .
[05:35] <eyequeue> !kernel > whyameye
[05:35] <whyameye> !kernel
[05:35] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:35] <Xenguy> maple1: go away then
[05:35] <maple1> yeah cvt, get dapper
[05:35] <mtholdenss> !upgrade
[05:35] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:36] <skwashd> hi all
[05:36] <bjron> anyone here feel like testing some .debs i just built, make sure they work?
[05:36] <skwashd> i am running dapper on a powerbook g3 lombard
[05:36] <cvt> mtholdenss,  what about "if it ain't broken, don't fix it?"
[05:36] <skwashd> this morning it was frozen
[05:36] <maple1> cvt: it's broken
[05:37] <skwashd> popped the battery ... powered back up ... and it seems the main partition is corrupt :(
[05:37] <mtholdenss> cvt dapper drake is more stable than breezy
[05:37] <cvt> mtholdenss,  ah
[05:37] <w30> mtholdenss, you could try "sudo rmmod video" and see if the powersaving video module is doing it.
[05:37] <skwashd> but i can't find out what fs i used on it
[05:38] <ianthepetrock> Somehow i installed breezy security updates on my dapper system, now i cant really install anymore things with apt, what should i do?
[05:38] <mtholdenss> cvt when u inesert a blank cd on ubuntu dapper drake u can drag files to it and burn...
[05:38] <w30> mtholdenss, insmod video would put it back in
[05:38] <mtholdenss> thanks w3o ill try that...
[05:38] <skwashd> i thought i used xfs on it ... but xfs, ext3 (reiserfs or even ext2) claim it is invalid
[05:38] <mtholdenss> w30 whats insmod video do?
[05:39] <skwashd> ianthepetrock: edit your source ... sudo apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:39] <skwashd> ianthepetrock: then it should work fine
[05:39] <BlueEagle> subhuman: Ok. Good to know.
[05:39] <ianthepetrock> ok thank you
[05:39] <skwashd> does anyone know what i can do to try to save the partition ?
[05:39] <Lilandra> if i want to install the source for the kernel, waht package is that?
[05:39] <skwashd> ianthepetrock: np
[05:40] <eyequeue> !kernel > Lilandra
[05:40] <tritium> Lilandra: it begins with linux-source
[05:40] <Lilandra> thanks
[05:40] <w30> mtholdenss, puts video module back in service or what ever the proper term would be maybe back running or  in usage, heck I donno
[05:40] <Lilandra> wow! is that how bots work? cool
[05:40] <eyequeue> Lilandra, :)
[05:41] <Lilandra> thanks eyequeue
[05:41] <eyequeue> Lilandra, no prob
[05:41] <ianthepetrock> skwashd: when you say edit my sources, do you mean repos?
[05:41] <wims> carlo,  did you install a package called anon-proxy ? I did a bit of googling ansd several sites pointed in that direction. If you installed it i would try to remove it
[05:41] <carlo> any suggestions for a repository list? perhaps I should delete my current list...
[05:41] <wims> dont do that
[05:41] <godtvisken> Anyone know some basic, yet good, video editing software?
[05:42] <tritium> godtvisken: kino
[05:42] <skwashd> ianthepetrock: yes /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <carlo> wims: I dont think so but I'm looking...
[05:42] <godtvisken> tritium: but it won't let me edit .avi
[05:42] <wims> carlo check with synaptic or something
[05:42] <ianthepetrock> skwashd: ok ty :)
[05:42] <w30> mtholdenss, if that's your problem you probably will have te edit /etc/modules.conf to keep it out on the next reboot.
[05:42] <mtholdenss> w30 whats' sudo rmmod video'  do? i just did it and i have no idea what it did
[05:42] <tritium> godtvisken: okay
[05:42] <wims> carlo,  http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=310&
[05:43] <axisys> !beagle > axisys
[05:43] <sethk> mtholdenss, unloads (possibly) the module video from the kernel
[05:43] <skwashd> i just looked at the drive with cfdisk ... and it claims the whole drive is empty :(
[05:43] <w30> mtholdenss, it shut down the power saving kernel module for video
[05:43] <sethk> mtholdenss, you insert modules into the kernel with insmod, and remove (unload) them with rmmod
[05:43] <mtholdenss> sethk that a good thing that i just did that in the terminal?
[05:43] <david__> does anyone have any issues using the susend feature?
[05:44] <skwashd> fdisk -l shows the partitions ... but of course doesn't tell me if it is a ext3/xfs partition or whatever
[05:44] <mtholdenss> so it should shutdown power saving...
[05:44] <`Lam> what's the best linux video player, messenger, and music player
[05:44] <Schalken> david__: wel netiher hibernate nor suspend work for me :(
[05:44] <godtvisken> How can I convert AVI to DV?
[05:44] <Schalken> godtvisken: try Kino
[05:44] <skwashd> `Lam: imho mplayer, gaim, totem
[05:44] <cool_nick> hello everybody, i used sysv-rc-conf and disabled some boot up services, now it is showing a read-only file system. can anyone help me?
[05:44] <Schalken> `Lam: for GNOME or for KDE?
[05:44] <`Lam> gnome probably
[05:45] <`Lam> skwashd: totem for music? really?
[05:45] <wims> vlc is a pretty good vid player, so is mplayer
[05:45] <skwashd> whoops i meant rhythmbox
[05:45] <david__> hibernate works fine for me, but if i go away for 10 minutes wghile something is downloading, my computer freezes
[05:45] <`Lam> lol ok
[05:45] <skwashd> i get the 2 names confused
[05:45] <Schalken> `Lam: for gnome Totem-xine, Gaim, Rhythmbox or Banshee
[05:45] <sethk> cool_nick, you must have removed a remount.
[05:45] <sethk> cool_nick, which file system?
[05:45] <cool_nick> sethk: reiserfs
[05:45] <skwashd> `Lam: goom is nice on totem ... but i get bored with it
[05:45] <mtholdenss> sethk was that a goood thing what i did?
[05:45] <`Lam> ok thanks guys
[05:46] <sethk> cool_nick, I meant the root file system?  or another?
[05:46] <sethk> mtholdenss, neither good nor bad.  it can't hurt anything
[05:46] <carlo> wims: Well, I had installed it at some point and now it's removed. Do I need to restart the machine to have this take effect?
[05:46] <Schalken> david__: maybe you should go into System-Prefrences->Power Management and set suspend to never?
[05:46] <sethk> mtholdenss, it won't have any effect the next time you reboot
[05:46] <wims> carlo, you might have to edit your enviroment first
[05:46] <cool_nick> sethk: reiserfs only. . .
[05:46] <sethk> cool_nick, no, that's not what I mean
[05:46] <sethk> cool_nick,  where is it mounted?
[05:46] <sethk> cool_nick, is it /?
[05:47] <mtholdenss> sethk would it shut down my power management, so everything will be back to  normal next reboot?
[05:47] <sethk> and where do you see that it is read only?
[05:47] <david__> i guess i could do that until i find out whats wrong
[05:47] <cool_nick> sethk: yes
[05:47] <carlo> wims: again, I hope you can forgive my ignorance. please elaborate?
[05:47] <RedRose> how can I get the kernel source for the current kernel I have now?
[05:47] <wims> carlo,  sudo gedit /etc/enviroment  , remove all lines with anon in it
[05:47] <wims> sorry
[05:47] <Schalken> boy the ubuntu forums are dying from slowness
[05:47] <sethk> mtholdenss, it has no permanent effect, so, yes, when you reboot, it is as if you never did it.
[05:47] <wims> carlos sudo gedit /etc/environment
[05:47] <sethk> RedRose, there is a kernel source package
[05:48] <sethk> RedRose, in synaptic search for linux-source
[05:48] <Paladine> Schalken, so donate to the project so they can get better equipment and bandwidth
[05:48] <RedRose> when I download that, it gives me an older kernel
[05:48] <wims> carlos remove anon lines, save, then reboot
[05:48] <SkramX> how do i remove postfix from starting at boot?
[05:48] <w30> mtholdenss, your kernel reads the file modules.conf at boot time and loads modules the way the file says to so on a reboot all your modules go back the way they were on last boot.
[05:48] <Schalken> Paladine: im only 16 geez :p
[05:48] <adam> hey all.... does anyone here have a link that can show one how to modigy the GRUB list on boot?
[05:49] <tritium> adam: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:49] <Schalken> Paladine: lol nah i would if i had some spare cash
[05:49] <mtholdenss> w30 ok but i may disable my power management...
[05:49] <cool_nick> sethk: can you please help me out. . .
[05:49] <w30> mtholdenss, or else you can do sudo ismod video to put it back in without a reboot :=)
[05:49] <sethk> cool_nick, yes which?  it is /?
[05:49] <wims> adam make sure you backup that file before editing it
[05:49] <adamlazz> tritium: that can edit the order, and the amount of options?
[05:49] <artzneo> hola
[05:49] <sethk> cool_nick, do you know what you changed?
[05:49] <suge> hello.. i can't seem to find how to enable root. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:49] <adamlazz> cause theres some dupe options
[05:50] <tritium> adamlazz: it contains everything configurable
[05:50] <sethk> suge, it isn't disabled, the password is just not set
[05:50] <mtholdenss> and w3o if i did that how would  i remove that?
[05:50] <adamlazz> alright, thanks
[05:50] <carlo> wims: gedit opened to an empty page. there is nothing at all to delete?!
[05:50] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > suge
[05:50] <sethk> suge, you can set it (sudo passwd), or you can use sudo when you need root
[05:50] <artzneo> hi suge
[05:50] <suge> thanks
[05:50] <cool_nick> sethk: i added some options in /etc/fstab
[05:50] <artzneo> mmm try with
[05:50] <SkramX> ?
[05:50] <sethk> cool_nick, ok, can you paste the line from /etc/fstab for /?
[05:50] <w30> mtholdenss, just the video there is lots more powersaving modules like cpu etc.
[05:50] <artzneo> sudo passwd root
[05:50] <eyequeue> suge, do not do what sethk said please. he's been told
[05:50] <SkramX> how do i remove postfix from starting at boot? I just installed 5.04 server edition
[05:50] <cool_nick> sethk: sure. .
[05:50] <whyameye> !vpn
[05:50] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[05:50] <sethk> cool_nick, paste just the one line here, or paste the entire thing to the paste bin
[05:50] <eyequeue> artzneo, please don't advise that in this channel
[05:51] <wims> carlo,  did you type the correct command? the first i gave was wrong, sorry about that, the correct command is sudo gedit /etc/environment
[05:51] <adamlazz> do i just edit in a text editor?
[05:51] <sethk> some people eroneously think that the sudo method is better, when in fact it is much worse.
[05:51] <mtholdenss> so w30 sudo ismod video would benifit me
[05:51] <tritium> sethk: that is your opinion
[05:51] <eyequeue> sethk, again, you are contradicting ubuntu policy
[05:51] <artzneo> hi, mm the chanel of ubuntu in spanish?
[05:51] <sethk> tritium, indeed
[05:51] <eyequeue> !es > artzneo
[05:51] <carelezz> sethk:why say that?
[05:51] <sethk> eyequeue, again, it is NOT ubuntu policy.  some of the install options set the root password.  were it ubuntu policy, none of the options would set the root password
[05:52] <sethk> carelezz, which?
[05:52] <adamlazz> thanks all
[05:52] <artzneo> es ? mmm ubuntues ????
[05:52] <carlo> wims: with that command, gedit outputs "PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
[05:52] <carlo> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[05:52] <carlo> LANGUAGE="en""
[05:52] <sethk> !es
[05:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:52] <eyequeue> sethk, afain, i recommend you read the web site
[05:52] <sethk> eyequeue, of course I have read it.
[05:52] <w30> suge, sudo useradd root
[05:52] <artzneo> thanks n_n
[05:52] <eyequeue> sethk, afain, i recommend you read the web site, including the aspects on security
[05:52] <sethk> w30, no, root already exists.  you can't add it again.
[05:52] <carelezz> sethk:i think sudo is better,because it prevent me from del any important files.
[05:53] <wims> carlo, hmmm ok. Have you rebooted after uninstalling that anon-proxy package ?
[05:53] <sethk> eyequeue, I'm extremely familiar with them.  I've done unix security for 25 years.
[05:53] <sethk> carelezz, no, it doesn't
[05:53] <sethk> carelezz, you can delete any file you want with sudo
[05:53] <mtholdenss> garr iim confusing sethk and w30...
[05:53] <Lilandra> how can i recreate the default apt sources from command line?
[05:53] <mtholdenss> im confused i mean
[05:53] <sethk> notice nobody ever talks about the substance of the issue.
[05:53] <carlo> wims: Right.. I missed that pard.. thank you. TIme to reboot.. brb.
[05:53] <eyequeue> sethk, are we competing here, i outnumber that, if so
[05:53] <cool_nick> sethk: reiserfs notail,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser,data=writeback 0 1
[05:54] <bluebob> Well, this is a really odd problem. everytime I run /dev/null my monitor starts to bleed and it spins around
[05:54] <sethk> mtholdenss, well, you removed the module from the running kernel.  it has no permanent effect.  what are you confused about?
[05:54] <sethk> mtholdenss, maybe you should tell us why you did the rmmod?
[05:54] <carelezz> sethk:what's its substance?
[05:54] <nailbags> ok, i have a list of all the packages installed on one machine. how would i pass this through to apt-get to install them on anther machine?
[05:54] <sethk> cool_nick, it says remount-ro, change it to remount-rw
[05:54] <mtholdenss> the sudo ismod video and the other thingy
[05:54] <sethk> carelezz, of why sudo isn't better.
[05:54] <bluefusionxl> IS there a way to keep users in their home directories, but still be able to run programs like pico and lynx?
[05:54] <eyequeue> nailbags, dpkg --set-selections foo
[05:54] <mtholdenss> i did the rmmod cause w30 told me to cause he thought it would help me
[05:55] <eyequeue> nailbags, scp foo otherhost:
[05:55] <sethk> mtholdenss, ok, but help you do what?
[05:55] <mtholdenss> help my screensaver issue..
[05:55] <eyequeue> nailbags, dpkg --get-selections < foo   on otherhost
[05:55] <carelezz> sethk,you can provide any better method?
[05:55] <cool_nick> sethk: if i try to modify, it shows read-only file system.
[05:55] <Shadowline> bluebob: whats your monitor doing again ? it spins around ? and bleeds ?
[05:55] <eyequeue> nailbags, dpkg --set-selections > foo    as the first command rather
[05:55] <mtholdenss> for some reason some time after my screensaver it goes black but when i move my mouse it comes back for a split second and ask for password to unlock screen, why wont screensaver continues, its not the power management cause thats set to 30 min, although i may stop power management...
[05:55] <nailbags> eyequeue: ok thanks, i'll try it
[05:55] <w30> suge, try this "sudo su" in a terminal
[05:56] <tritium> bluefusionxl: those are in their path, so they can be executed, even from their home dirs
[05:56] <sethk> carelezz, a properly configured sudo is a good method.  the problem is that (1) nobody actually bothers to configure sudo properly and (2) you can _only_ configure sudo properly if there is in fact a root password, and if visudo is protected by the root password
[05:56] <tritium> w30: sudo -i would be better
[05:56] <eyequeue> w30, please don't advise that in this channel
[05:56] <eyequeue> !root > w30
[05:56] <sethk> sudo -i is absolutely identical?  It's so dumb.
[05:57] <mtholdenss> sethk did u read my screensaver issue?
[05:57] <fiendskull9> hey
[05:57] <DMY> Hey all..... can someone tell me how to brows the data files on my NTFS partitions?  When I try to open the drive icons it says I don't have the permissions necessary to view the files?
[05:57] <fiendskull9> i removed xgl (because it was crashing alot)
[05:57] <sethk> mtholdenss, I was away from my machine.  can you repeat it?
[05:57] <fiendskull9> and now when i start ubuntu
[05:57] <mtholdenss> for some reason some time after my screensaver it goes black but when i move my mouse it comes back for a split second and ask for password to unlock screen, why wont screensaver continues, its not the power management cause thats set to 30 min, although i may stop power management...
[05:57] <fiendskull9> it errors saying it cant find /usr/bin/xgl (of course)
[05:57] <mtholdenss> sethk^^
[05:57] <fiendskull9> but i removed the xsession file
[05:57] <fiendskull9> and i cant find the file thats saying to start xgl not xorg
[05:58] <sethk> mtholdenss, does the machine crash after that split second?
[05:58] <cool_nick> sethk: i tried to modify from -ro to rw but, it shows error writing, read-only file system...
[05:58] <eyequeue> !xgl > fiendskull9
[05:58] <sethk> cool_nick, ah, you really screwed yourself up royally.  you'll have to boot the live cd and mount the partition from there
[05:58] <nailbags> eyequeue: is dpkg --set-selections supposed to take forever? also will --get-selections resolve dependancies by fetching packages like apt-get would?
[05:58] <mtholdenss> nope its fine, but i just dont want it to go to black, i want the screensaver to be pretty anc continue and not go black , sethk
[05:58] <fiendskull9> eyequeue , im running in a shell right now
[05:58] <Frederick> folks does anyone here ever used any of imagemagick libs?
[05:58] <eyequeue> nailbags, dpkg --set-selections > foo
[05:58] <cool_nick> sethk: will i be able to change then?
[05:59] <nailbags> eyequeue: yes ....
[05:59] <sethk> mtholdenss, oh, ok, and w30 suggested doing a rmmod on the power save.  which makes sense
[05:59] <sethk> cool_nick, yes
[05:59] <eyequeue> fiendskull9, okay, that's good
[05:59] <fiendskull9> since my ubuntu system is pretty fresh (reinstalled the other day), would it be simpler to just reinstall ubuntu?
[05:59] <sethk> cool_nick, you'll be able to mount that partition read/write
[05:59] <sethk> cool_nick, as long as you aren't using lvm
[05:59] <AnI> hi all
[05:59] <eyequeue> nailbags, get selections won't need to resilve dependencies, if it copies your working system, right?
[05:59] <cool_nick> sethk: will give it a try and come back soon. . .
[05:59] <sethk> fiendskull9, simpler?  sure.  but not really necessary
[05:59] <w30> eyequeue, on ubuntu I agree, it's all set up for sudo why add root as aknown user and all that is left is guessing the password
[06:00] <eyequeue> nailbags, and no, dpkg doesn't pull in dependencies, only checks them
[06:00] <mtholdenss> sethk so will that rmmod be permanant or just for this session and im seeing if its fixing now, its in screensaver mode atm...
[06:00] <sethk> fiendskull9, but if it is frustrating you and you don't mind reinstalling, then go ahead.
[06:00] <fiendskull9> sethk, what could i do so it auto runs xorg not xgl?
[06:00] <eyequeue> w30, right :)
[06:00] <fiendskull9> im actually kinda liking these virtual terminals :)
[06:00] <fiendskull9> lol
[06:00] <nailbags> eyequeue: so how do i do what i origially asked? pull any dependencies?
[06:00] <fiendskull9> jk
[06:00] <sethk> fiendskull9, you would need to edit files in /etc/rc*.
[06:00] <eyequeue> nailbags, you originally asked how to duplicate the current machine, did you not?
[06:01] <fiendskull9> ok
[06:01] <nailbags> eyequeue: run the output of dpkg -l through a script to convert to spaces instead of newline?
[06:01] <fiendskull9> hold on, let me open another virtual term
[06:01] <sethk> fiendskull9, you can run command line if you like as well, but you might as well have both option
[06:01] <nailbags> eyequeue: yeah, pretty much
[06:01] <sethk> mtholdenss, to make it permanent, we have to edit a file in /etc
[06:01] <eyequeue> nailbags, doesn't the original machine have the dependencies already installed, as it has to?
[06:01] <sethk> mtholdenss, once you are convinced it works, we can edit /etc/modules
[06:01] <fiendskull9> sethk, of course, but right now im in shell so i can fix this
[06:01] <sethk> fiendskull9, yes, I understand.
[06:01] <eyequeue> nailbags, hence there is no need for any app that computes dependencies
[06:02] <mtholdenss> ok sethk itll be any minute not and ill now if its fixed or not, im on a mac on irc...
[06:02] <mtholdenss> sethk it just went black
[06:02] <nailbags> eyequeue: ok, forget i mentioned dependencies. will --get-selections pull packages off the web?
[06:02] <mtholdenss> garr
[06:02] <sethk> mtholdenss, ok.
[06:02] <fiendskull9> sethk, which file do i edit in /etc/rc* (im in that dir now)
[06:02] <eyequeue> nailbags, no, it sets what you want
[06:02] <sethk> mtholdenss, probably you'll need to rebuild the kernel with all the power save support disabled.
[06:02] <sethk> fiendskull9, let me look
[06:02] <carlo> wims: thanks for the help, that seems to have done it!
[06:02] <wims> carlo great!
[06:02] <eyequeue> nailbags, then you sudo apt-get upgrade, and it pulls and installs, etc
[06:02] <mtholdenss> sethk how would i do that, do a re install of ubunut?
[06:02] <`Lam> i know this will probably spite some bias, but what does gentoo offer over ubuntu?
[06:03] <nailbags> eyequeue: i see!
[06:03] <w30> mtholdenss, you haven't done anything a reboot won't cure because a reboot puts the video powersaving module back in place even if you don't do a insmod video
[06:03] <sethk> mtholdenss, no, a reinstall wouldn't do anything, just install the same thing again
[06:03] <nailbags> eyequeue: great, i'm just not too familiar with the debian way of doing things
[06:03] <sethk> mtholdenss, download the kernel source, change the configuration a bit, and build the kernel.
[06:03] <sethk> mtholdenss, it isn't difficult but the build takes quite a while.
[06:03] <eyequeue> nailbags, think og the dpkg commands as a back door means of getting the two machines set to ask for the same things :)
[06:03] <mtholdenss> seth k i dont know how to get the kernal source and change the config a bit and build the kernal...
[06:04] <eyequeue> nailbags, and you know what scp is, right?
[06:04] <sethk> w30, that's backwards.  his problem isn't fixed, he isn't worried about reverting, he still needs to find a solution
[06:04] <nailbags> eyequeue: yeah i got it now, sweet
[06:04] <Frederick> folks Ive installed imagemagick from source in ubuntu but when try to compile this sample http://www.imagemagick.org/script/magick-wand.php nothing seems to link, but if I replace it all for -lMagick++ it links but when I try to execute the program it reports rror while loading shared libraries: libMagick++.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory any ideas?
[06:04] <nailbags> eyequeue: yeah i'm not a linux n00b, just a debian n00b
[06:04] <link_36p> Worst apt-get nightmare ever.... http://pastebin.ca/165749          >> can anyone help? :'(
[06:04] <eyequeue> nailbags, cool
[06:04] <sethk> Frederick, you can do one of several things.  update the shared library cache
[06:04] <nailbags> eyequeue: although i build my own .deb last night!
[06:04] <nailbags> *built
[06:04] <sethk> Frederick, add a path to LD_LIBRARY_PATH for the library, or
[06:04] <sethk> Frederick, add symbolic links to the library in /usr/lib
[06:05] <eyequeue> nailbags, congrats, that's a decent step to be taking, heh
[06:05] <sethk> Frederick, I'd try the third, which is very quick, and we'll see if that's the only problem or just the first
[06:05] <w30> sethk, I missed that, I thought he had to wait 30 minuts to find out, my mistake, sorry.
[06:05] <Frederick> dammm
[06:05] <Frederick> I didnt knew oki
[06:05] <Frederick> 1 sec
[06:05] <kameron> do you guys know any bible software for systems that don't run KDE?
[06:05] <sethk> w30, yes, that's right, and he said he just crossed 30 minutes.
[06:05] <lostinc> I installed the w32codecs package and still cant play any wmvs with VLC anyone have any idea why
[06:05] <sethk> w30, I think you just missed one message.
[06:05] <w30> sethk, bifocals :=)
[06:06] <fiendskull9> sethk, brb, dont send me anything, or ill miss it :P
[06:06] <mtholdenss> w30 and sethk it doesnt occur in 30 minutes it occurs within 5 or so minutes into the screensaver,,,
[06:06] <sethk> mtholdenss, where did 30 minutes come from , then?
[06:06] <bjron> hmm, so accor
[06:06] <sethk> mtholdenss, or am I just confused about the number?
[06:06] <eyequeue> kameron, it seems to be mostly kde, but try this command perhaps: apt-cache search bible | less
[06:06] <bjron> hmm, so according to keyboard shortcuts, print screen should take a screenshot, but as far as I can tell, nothig happens
[06:07] <kameron> did that already eyequeue
[06:07] <sethk> kameron, you don't have to run kde to run those programs.  you probably already know that.
[06:07] <eyequeue> kameron, "q" ro quit less when youre done
[06:07] <mtholdenss> 30 minutes came from the time of the power manager settings its set to 30 minute to go to sleep...
[06:07] <link_36p> Did anyone liike at my apt-get problem? :(
[06:07] <mtholdenss> sethk
[06:07] <sethk> mtholdenss, oh, ok, but it never gets that far?
[06:07] <eyequeue> kameron, nothing useful?  sorry
[06:07] <sethk> mtholdenss, or something else happens at 10 minutes.
[06:07] <kameron> no but thanks eyequeue
[06:07] <mtholdenss> sethk , exactly
[06:07] <fiendskull9> im back
[06:07] <w30> mtholdenss, what's the screensaver configured for, for a choice of savers in the screensaver menu?
[06:08] <fiendskull9> sethk, i know your really busy with people, but did you find out what files i need to edit inside the /etc/rc* folder?
[06:08] <sethk> mtholdenss, the kernel rebuild would work, but let me see if I can find a less drastic way
[06:08] <Frederick> sethk, ln -s /usr/lib  /pathto/libMagick++.so.10 ?
[06:08] <mtholdenss> its configured for a folder of pictures but ive tried it on diff screensavers and same issue...
[06:08] <w30> mtholdenss, have you tried different savers?
[06:08] <sethk> fiendskull9, sorry, I was looking there and I got diverted.
[06:08] <mtholdenss> yes i have
[06:08] <fiendskull9> np
[06:08] <sethk> fiendskull9, do this for me, and (please) paste the results to the paste web site:     ls -ltr /etc/init.d
[06:08] <w30> mtholdenss, ok strike 3 or sumptin' like that
[06:08] <lostinc> Anyone know why the w32codecs package doesnt work with wmv files?
[06:09] <sethk> fiendskull9, what that does is list all the files in /etc/init.d in reverse time order, most recently changed last
[06:09] <justin_> No sever lists in games anymore under Ubuntu, they worked before and I did not change anything in my router or other system settings --- any ideas of what it could be? - it goes for all shooters, from Nexuiz to Wolfenstein...
[06:09] <fiendskull9> sethk, ill do the command and examine myself, but i cant use any webrowsers, im in a shell
[06:09] <mtholdenss> w30 what y mean, strike 3?
[06:09] <sethk> fiendskull9, that will tell us where to look for the xorg to xgl change, which I'm assuming is most recent
[06:09] <eyequeue> kameron, i think there was also a bible dictionary if you are running dictd, and perhaps something for calendar
[06:09] <sethk> fiendskull9, ah, then, just  tell me the names of the last three files
[06:09] <eyequeue> kameron, but none of those are what you wanted i suspect
[06:09] <w30> mtholdenss, I am running of any ideas to point you to, sorry
[06:10] <mtholdenss> w30 ill try the ubuntu forums...
[06:10] <sethk> mtholdenss, what happens at 10 minutes is that it puts the monitor to sleep
[06:10] <fiendskull9> sethk, linux-restricted-modules-common | cupsys | stopbootlogd-> bootlogd
[06:10] <sethk> mtholdenss, but for some reason the configuration that turns that off doesn't seem to be working.
[06:10] <mtholdenss> seth k yes it puts monitor to sleep...
[06:10] <mtholdenss> how do i turn it off again
[06:11] <sethk> fiendskull9, anything near the end with xgl or xorg in the name?
[06:11] <sethk> mtholdenss, let me look at something.
[06:11] <fiendskull9> sethk, let me check
[06:11] <mtholdenss> i did sudo rmmod video in terminal before...
[06:11] <mtholdenss> sethk
[06:11] <mtholdenss> ^^
[06:11] <sethk> mtholdenss, yes, I know, that's not going to fix it
[06:11] <fiendskull9> sethk, hmmm. it goes GDM to alsa-utilities
[06:11] <fiendskull9> vbesave before gdm
[06:11] <fiendskull9> but i cant see xgl/xorg anywhere
[06:11] <sethk> mtholdenss, I have told my screen saver to ignore power management, but it isn't working.  I'm trying to figure out why.
[06:12] <sethk> fiendskull9, ah, gdm is relevant
[06:12] <TylerDurdener> for some reason when i installed unreal tournmanet 2004, it wouldnt add an Application menu entry this time, is there a way to add it?
[06:12] <link_36p> Anyone here good with apt-geT?
[06:12] <mtholdenss> sethk ok thanks, ill search on ubuntu forums
[06:12] <sethk> fiendskull9, very likely the default gdm session was changed
[06:12] <Flannel> TylerDurdener: Alacarte
[06:12] <sethk> mtholdenss, ok, let us know what you find
[06:12] <w30> mtholdenss, does you bios have any power saving configuration for your monitor that would override the operating system, like does it do it in Msoft too?
[06:12] <fiendskull9> sethk, when i drop to terminal, and kill anything that grep returns with gdm, i start gdm, and it gives me the ol xgl not found
[06:12] <TylerDurdener> Flannel, i was hoping for something less generic >.<
[06:12] <fiendskull9> sethk, if its of any help, im using nvidia drivers, with twinview
[06:13] <sethk> fiendskull9, right.  we have to convince gdm that it shouldn't try to run xgl
[06:13] <sethk> fiendskull9, no, this is way above the driver level
[06:13] <mtholdenss> w30 i havnt booted into win xp for weeks...
[06:13] <Flannel> TylerDurdener: what?  It's a menu editor, isn't that exactly what you wanted?
[06:13] <fiendskull9> sethk, there is a K01gdm file in there :-\
[06:13] <TylerDurdener> Flannel I thought there might have been a command to launch a script that causes it to make the icon itself
[06:13] <sethk> fiendskull9, it may be changed there, but the change may actually be elsewhere, possibly in /etc/X11/gdm
[06:13] <Flannel> TylerDurdener: ah, well, that'd be an unreal specific thing. you'd have to check with their documentation/whatever
[06:14] <fiendskull9> sethk, ok, ill take a look in that file
[06:14] <fiendskull9> brb
[06:14] <sethk> fiendskull9, we have to return gdm to the state where it doesn't try to run xgl
[06:14] <sethk> fiendskull9, start with /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:14] <sethk> fiendskull9, I tracked this down a while ago, and there are a couple of levels of indirection and a symbolic link involved.  It's not hard, just a bit convoluted to track down.
[06:14] <sethk> fiendskull9, I'll see if I can get to a machine running gdm instead of kdm
[06:16] <mtholdenss> so sethk after doing sudo rmmod video in a terminal once i reboot everything will be back to normal?
[06:16] <`Lam> !ping
[06:16] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[06:16] <skel> anyone know the package name to install jython in dapper?
[06:16] <fiendskull9> sethk, it says something about standard xserver = /usr/bin/X
[06:16] <skel> it was in the last version..
[06:17] <sethk> mtholdenss, right.  if you want to make that change permanent, you have to edit /etc/modules
[06:17] <sethk> fiendskull9, that's normal.
[06:17] <sethk> fiendskull9, but ...
[06:17] <`Lam> X or Xgl, and why?
[06:17] <sethk> fiendskull9, it may be a link.   do    ls -l /usr/bin/X
[06:17] <sethk> fiendskull9, see if it is a link, and, if so, what it is pointing to
[06:17] <fiendskull9> how would i know if its a link?
[06:18] <fiendskull9> it got /usr/bin/X with a red bg
[06:18] <sethk> fiendskull9, if you do  ls -l /usr/bin/X
[06:18] <sethk> fiendskull9, if it is a link, the first character in that line will be l
[06:18] <sethk> fiendskull9, and the end of the line will be the path of the file it points to
[06:19] <fiendskull9> well
[06:19] <sethk> fiendskull9, on my box, ls -l of /usr/bin/X is:       lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 14 2005-12-12 04:22 /usr/bin/X -> ../X11R6/bin/X
[06:19] <fiendskull9> it points to /usr/bin/X
[06:19] <fiendskull9> it doesnt look like that
[06:19] <sethk> fiendskull9, it points to itself?
[06:19] <fiendskull9> i guess
[06:19] <sethk> fiendskull9, that won't work.  I know you can't paste.
[06:20] <sethk> fiendskull9, you said it doesn't look like that.  why?
[06:20] <fiendskull9> give me a sex
[06:20] <fiendskull9> *sec
[06:20] <fiendskull9> ill try to type it out
[06:20] <sethk> k
[06:20] <sethk> fiendskull9, just do the first part (the permissions) and the end of the line.  maybe that will be enough.
[06:21] <fiendskull9> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root root 18066 2006-05-28 14;35 /usr/bin/X
[06:22] <fiendskull9> thats what i get with ls -l
[06:22] <fiendskull9> ls -l /usr/bin/X
[06:22] <sethk> that's a normal file, not a link
[06:22] <sethk> which is odd.
[06:22] <Frederick> does anyone know a easy to install and well documented image library i can use in ubuntu?
[06:22] <sethk> do this:   in /usr/bin,   do        mv X X.original
[06:23] <sethk> fiendskull9, then, do:   ln  -s /usr/X11R6/bin/X /usr/bin/X
[06:23] <sethk> fiendskull9, you'll need to use sudo or be root for both commands.
[06:23] <fiendskull9> ok
[06:23] <sethk> Frederick, I don't know about well documented.  everything in the ubuntu repositories is easy to install.
[06:24] <sethk> fiendskull9, we are renaming your current /usr/bin/X, so if necessary we can reverse this change
[06:24] <fiendskull9> i got that
[06:24] <fiendskull9> and i did the link
[06:24] <fiendskull9> now what
[06:24] <sethk> fiendskull9, see if there is any change to the gdm behavior.  The odds are against it, but it's worth a try.
[06:24] <fiendskull9> ok
[06:24] <fiendskull9> if i open a 4th virt. terminal, and do sudo gdm
[06:24] <fiendskull9> will it kill these?
[06:25] <sethk> fiendskull9, kill which, the virtual terminals?  no
[06:25] <fiendskull9> ok
[06:25] <sethk> fiendskull9, the X display will be on vt 7
[06:25] <fiendskull9> ok
[06:25] <fiendskull9> brb
[06:25] <sethk> fiendskull9, v6 1 through 6 will still be there
[06:25] <Frederick> sethk, Imagemagick package doesnt features the C lib by some wierd reason
[06:25] <sethk> Frederick, the older version of the library is available in the repositories
[06:25] <sethk> Frederick, is there an error in the package, and it won't install?
[06:26] <sethk> Frederick, installs fine on breezy
[06:26] <fiendskull9> still the same error
[06:26] <fiendskull9> can i just reinstall gdm?
[06:26] <sethk> fiendskull9, yes, try that.  uninstall it first
[06:26] <fiendskull9> ok
[06:27] <Frederick> sethk, it install but WYSINWYG
[06:27] <_jupo> help window
[06:27] <sethk> Frederick, why do you think that has something to do with the C library?
[06:27] <Frederick> sethk, if you try this sample http://www.imagemagick.org/script/magick-wand.php you will see it wont link cause ubuntu package doesnt ships the c lib
[06:28] <sethk> Frederick, ok.  I was able to play with jpeg files with it.
[06:28] <fiendskull9> AHA
[06:28] <khaije1> on my desktop machine (using my laptop now) i saw a connection originating from my desktop and connecting to another machine on port 54321 which is afaik only associated with backorifice
[06:28] <sethk> Frederick, I'm using gimp, I just played with image magick a bit for fun
[06:28] <sethk> fiendskull9, is that a good AHA?
[06:28] <khaije1> is this machine compromised?
[06:28] <fiendskull9> it cannot exec /usr/bin/X11/X because theres to many levels of symbolic linkx
[06:28] <fiendskull9> (thats what i get when i do startx)
[06:28] <Frederick> sethk, Im using its C API not the programs it ships with
[06:28] <sethk> fiendskull9, ok
[06:29] <sethk> fiendskull9, we caused that by making the link
[06:29] <khaije1> i didn't see anything else that suggested it was in the few minutes i could spend w/ it before i had to go.... :-/
[06:29] <sethk> fiendskull9, I suspect
[06:29] <sethk> do ls -l /usr/bin/X11/X
[06:29] <sethk> fiendskull9, we can undo what we did in /usr/bin
[06:29] <sethk> Frederick, ok
[06:29] <cynical> sethk: wow, have you been helping out all day? I remember seeing you like 5-6 hours ago
[06:29] <sethk> Frederick, that would be different
[06:30] <fiendskull9> it points to /usr/X11R6/X
[06:30] <sethk> cynical, well, when they aren't threatening to ban me for telling the truth about sudo, yes.  :)
[06:30] <fiendskull9>  /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[06:30] <cynical> sethk: what about sudo? :)
[06:30] <fiendskull9> cynical, he has been of great help to me, hes on a roll :)
[06:31] <ShdwShinobi> Hello, I'm getting an error when I'm running TvTime. I have a ATI Radeon X1600 video card. The error I get is this: xvoutput: Received X error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)   Does anyone know what the problem is?
[06:31] <TylerDurdener> how do i force my computer to eject a cd?
[06:31] <fiendskull9> TylerDurdener, right click the cd icon on the desktop, eject
[06:31] <cynical> fiendskull9: hehe good to hear
[06:31] <sethk> cynical, I won't go there right now.  :)  I'll discuss the technical issues if anyone wants to.
[06:31] <khaije1> TylerDurdener: also from 'sudo eject'
[06:31] <TylerDurdener> fiendskull9 it says unable to eject media
[06:31] <ShdwShinobi> sethk, can you answer my question?
[06:31] <sethk> TylerDurdener, it's probably mounted.
[06:32] <ivan> hello
[06:32] <fiendskull9> hello ivan
[06:32] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, let me see if it is still in my window.
[06:32] <TylerDurdener> sethk how do i unmount?
[06:32] <ShdwShinobi> unmount
[06:32] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, that's an error deep inside the video code.
[06:32] <ivan> es la primera vez que navego por linux
[06:32] <Xenguy> umount
[06:32] <fiendskull9> TylerDurdener, sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[06:32] <axisys> what app apt-get  uses to pull pkg from repo? is it wget?
[06:32] <sethk> TylerDurdener, probably it is the current directory for a shell
[06:32] <ShdwShinobi> Sounds like it's going to suck to fix?
[06:32] <sethk> TylerDurdener, if you didn't use sudo for umount, that might also be the problem.  :)
[06:32] <fiendskull9> axisys, i beleive it uses its own code
[06:33] <sethk> TylerDurdener, I assumed that you did.  if not, try it.
[06:33] <TylerDurdener> sethk, that explains it, it was in the dir in the terminal, thanks
[06:33] <fiendskull9> TylerDurdener, heres your sign
[06:33] <axisys> fiendskull9: is there way I can change the way it pull the data?
[06:33] <fiendskull9> please exscuse me for that bad redneck humour
[06:33] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, that error is caused by incorrect code.  but to figure out exactly where is far from trivial.
[06:33] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, see if there are newer versions available, in case the problem has been fixed.
[06:34] <fiendskull9> axisys, not without a good knowledge of C/C++ and the sourcecode for apt
[06:34] <sethk> TylerDurdener, np
[06:34] <ShdwShinobi> sethk, a little more of a background... I just reinsalled Ubuntu. I upgraded to the i686 kernel to be able to use my dual core CPU to the fullest. then I installed all of the system updates. After that I followed a tutorial on how to correctly install the newest ATI drivers, which worked fine. After that, I rebooted, installed TvTime, and that's the error I got.
[06:34] <fiendskull9> ShdwShinobi, have you tried looking around google for any possible conflicts?
[06:34] <fiendskull9> tvtime +ati +ubuntu
[06:34] <fiendskull9> or tvtime +ati
[06:35] <axisys> i want it to use axel instead of whatever it is using.. so time to google on how to modify apt-get pull process
[06:35] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, what you have is similar to a buffer overflow or writing past the end of memory.  The cause is usually far away from the symptom
[06:35] <ShdwShinobi> I ran the error.... came up with 3 results. 2 were foreign, and I can read some german, but no japan. Neither helped... and the other one mentioned it but never actually got to fixing it.
[06:35] <axisys> !apt-get > axisys
[06:35] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, it's almost certainly a wild pointer.
[06:35] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, there is a memory debugger you can try.
[06:35] <Muteki> anyone know what drivers to use to install a Diamond Viper v330?
[06:36] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, it would probably give us a lot more information about the problem.
[06:36] <fiendskull9> sethk, i think im just going to reinstall.
[06:36] <sethk> fiendskull9, well, you know that will work.
[06:36] <fiendskull9> sethk, thanks for your help :)
[06:36] <brian98> I got so peed off with ati I changed to an Nvidia card.. The difference in stability and speed is mad
[06:36] <fiendskull9> ill certainly be back within an hour or so
[06:36] <sethk> fiendskull9, it'll probably be quicker, so if you aren't losing anything important by reinstalling ...
[06:36] <ShdwShinobi> Ok, what's the memory debugger?
[06:36] <fiendskull9> brian98, i agree :)
[06:37] <fiendskull9> brian98, my 6800xt smokes with the new nvidia drivers
[06:37] <fiendskull9> im out
[06:37] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, yes.  it may, as brian98  just suggested, come down to the ati driver
[06:37] <fiendskull9> enjoy :)
[06:37] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, the memory debugger would probably let is prove or disprove that.
[06:37] <ShdwShinobi> Ok, well... it looks likes there's a newer version than the thread said. So i'm going to install that quickly.
[06:37] <ANTDx1> Hey guys...I've been here a few times today...I still can't seem to get my drive to have enough open space so that Ubuntu can create a partition big enough to install on.
[06:37] <bjron> would someone be willing to test my packages real quick and let me know if they work ?
[06:37] <sethk> ShdwShinobi, ok, try that first.  it's your best hope.
[06:38] <Muteki> anyone know what drivers to use to install a Diamond Viper v330?
[06:38] <sethk> ANTDx1, I don't remember talking to you, so perhaps you should repeat the details?  unless someone else here remembers?
[06:38] <ANTDx1> Nah I can repeat the details.
[06:38] <sethk> Muteki, dpkg-reconfigure found it for me.  is it not working for you?
[06:39] <sethk> Muteki, the card died a few weeks later, but the software worked.  :)
[06:39] <ANTDx1> Basically, I tried to install Ubuntu earlier on my laptop, hoping to use it to resize an NTFS partition and create a new partition and a grub bootloader partition and all that stuff during th einstall.
[06:39] <ANTDx1> I defragged, then tried to install.
[06:39] <brian98> There are two areas that are letting ubuntu down (and it's not ubuntu's fault)
[06:39] <brian98> Graphics and Wireless
[06:39] <ANTDx1> I got an error that Ubuntu could not free enough space for an install.
[06:39] <brian98> if the vendors got their sh*t together
[06:39] <ANTDx1> I defragged a bit more, and Windows installer shows a large, continuous amount of free space.
[06:40] <Muteki> lol thx lemme check
[06:40] <ANTDx1> However, Ubuntu still doesn't recognize that.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> brian98,  you do not want to kjow the hassles ive gone through with wireless under 'windows' :)   - I find wireless in general to be a bigger hassle then it should be.
[06:40] <brian98> true
[06:40] <brian98> but I'm talking about driver supports
[06:40] <brian98> but I'm talking about driver support
[06:40] <sethk> Muteki, defragging doesn't help you.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> of coruse - even windows. dosent include the  latest drivers for nvidia or ati cards  either. :)
[06:40] <sethk> Muteki, you need to change partition sizes.  defragging just rearranges stuff within a partition
[06:41] <little_caesar> how do I take a webcam photo in Ubuntu?
[06:41] <`Lam> i have a broadcom wireless chip. would ubuntu work with it or would i need something like ndiswrapper
[06:41] <brian98> I know that but they are generally better and require a lot less tweaking than we get!
[06:41] <sethk> Muteki, you need to use something like partition magic to shrink the windows partition.
[06:41] <Rookie-> any system normally dont include drivers, thats the manufactors job
[06:41] <ANTDx1> Shouldn't you be able to use Ubuntu's partition manager to shrink a partition?  It worked fine on my family's desktop
[06:42] <brian98> The wireless thing is due to lack of open source from the vendors I believe
[06:42] <brian98> texas instruments in particular
[06:42] <little_caesar> how can I take a photo with my webcam?
[06:42] <brian98> acx is good but it doesn't always work
[06:42] <`Lam> i heard the linux 2.6.17 rc2 kernal had support for broadcom from reverse engieering
[06:42] <brian98> little_caeser: use the scanner option under graphics under applications
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Heck the wirless vendors seem to like to use different terms for the same thing under windows. :P   Im suprised their stuff works as well under linux as it does.
[06:43] <brian98> Dr_Willis: two extreme examples
[06:43] <ANTDx1> Any ideas on how I can get the free space to exist continuously so that Ubuntu can use it?
[06:43] <diana> Anyone else here using latest edgy packages and can confirm that nautilus doesn't show any files as "view list" as opposed to view as icons?
[06:43] <little_caesar> brian98: ok. Then what? I use the webcam as a device. And it comes up with "photo" and it's like a sound wave
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> I just constantly get the feeling that Wireless Is being shoved out to the public.. befor its ready.
[06:43] <diana> ANTDx1: reformat?
[06:43] <diana> ANTDx1: or lvm
[06:44] <ANTDx1> Without losing my Windows data
[06:44] <brian98> I installed a Fujitsu siemens Lifebook S7010 yesterday
[06:44] <cynical> Dr_Willis: Very true. An example, Pre 802.11n routers
[06:45] <`Lam> wireless really should be hammered out for all of linux distros.  linus is missing a huge demographic that is currently suceptible to influence--college students.  most of them have laptops with wireless adapters
[06:45] <`Lam> linux* :x
[06:45] <cynical> Wireless isn't a big deal, get a supported card
[06:45] <cvt> how do i get permission to copy files?
[06:45] <cynical> there are lots of them that work well, just not ALL of them :\
[06:45] <`Lam> college students are not necessarily willing to spend money to get soemthing to work
[06:45] <brian98> I installed a Fujitsu siemens Lifebook S7010 yesterday it installed every single device without any addition drivers
[06:45] <cynical> cvt: use sudo
[06:45] <brian98> even bletooth support
[06:45] <brian98> I was flabbergasted
[06:46] <brian98> bluetooth
[06:46] <brian98> sorry
[06:46] <cynical> lol students are going to college and cant afford to spend $20 on a wireless card? sad
[06:46] <ANTDx1> speaking of college students who don't want to use money, I'm still wondering what I can do about this problem
[06:46] <`Lam> lol yeah. i'm the same
[06:46] <cynical> ANTDx1: what are you trying to do?
[06:46] <`Lam> i'm too cheap to get food sometimes
[06:46] <ANTDx1> Install ubuntu
[06:47] <sethk> ANTDx1, no
[06:47] <sethk> ANTDx1, you can I believe shrink it with gparted
[06:47] <sethk> ANTDx1, it's possibly dapper has that available in the installer, I'm not sure.
[06:47] <cynical> `Lam: lol ramen right?
[06:47] <`Lam> hell yeah :)
[06:47] <cvt> cynical,  i gksudo nautilus i sudo konqueror. what else can i do?
[06:47] <Muteki> sethk, my su has a different password than i do on the fresh install... i can't run dpkg-reconfigure
[06:47] <mutk> cycom, I distinctly remember being broke and at collegde. Not such a supprise
[06:47] <`Lam> it's like a dollar
[06:47] <ANTDx1> sethk, I've already fired up the gparted live CD.
[06:47] <ShdwShinobi> sethk
[06:47] <cynical> cvt: sudo cp filename destination
[06:47] <ANTDx1> It is also unable to resize the partition
[06:47] <little_caesar> is there any way I can look into my webcam in realtime. Or even better, use AIM or yahoo chat w/ my webcam
[06:47] <ShdwShinobi> now that I upgraded the drivers... i get "No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images."
[06:47] <dave038> my screen resoution is all messed up someone please help
[06:47] <cynical> ANTDx1: You are saying that you want to install ubuntu, and are trying to resize an ntfs partition?
[06:48] <cynical> sethk: the installer uses gparted
[06:48] <ANTDx1> Aye.  I am trying to install Ubuntu on my computer, which currently has a 100 GB NTFS partition and nothing else.  I wish to take some of the unused space and turn it into about an 80-20 partition
[06:48] <ANTDx1> 20 for Ubuntu
[06:49] <cynical> ANTDx1: What is the error you get? I've never had problems resizing ntfs so I assure you its possible
[06:49] <dave038> someone please help me with my screen resoution everything is so crowded :|
[06:49] <`Lam> cynical: his drive apparently doesn't show that it has free space to resize with, from what i understand
[06:49] <ANTDx1> "Unable to create enough free space for installation"
[06:49] <`Lam> ah!
[06:49] <Luakagon> !ha
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ha - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <`Lam> can you resize your NTFS partition first?
[06:50] <unkn0wn2u> i have dapper , how can i use beagle with inotify kernel if dapper doesn't have a inotify kernel?
[06:50] <ANTDx1> I've tried many different things, none of which have been successful in resizing my partition.
[06:50] <`Lam> how full is your NTFS drive?
[06:50] <diana> Who in here is using edgy?
[06:51] <link_36p> http://pastebin.ca/165749
[06:51] <cvt> cynical, can't. says no such file or directory
[06:51] <ANTDx1> My NTFS drive is less than half full.
[06:51] <iLikeSpoons> diana - #ubuntu+1
[06:51] <cynical> cvt: what file are you trying to move and where do you want to move it?
[06:51] <ANTDx1> Windows recognizes 93.7 GB
[06:51] <ANTDx1> I am currently using around 40
[06:51] <cvt> cynical,  i'm trying to copy a file to a hd
[06:51] <link_36p> can anyone look at this? http://pastebin.ca/165749
[06:52] <cynical> cvt: whats the filename and where are you trying to copy it?
[06:52] <cvt> cynical,  filename.extension to /media/sda1/
[06:52] <cynical> ANTDx1: strange, are you sure you arent making the ubuntu partitions too large?
[06:52] <`Lam> ANTDx1: are you able to resize your NTFS drive to 70 or 80GB first?  you need to resize a partition to create "free" space.  then you need to take that free, unpartitioned space, and turn it into a partitioned space with an ext3 file system
[06:52] <cynical> cvt: ah is that your ntfs partition?
[06:53] <cvt> cynical,  probably
[06:53] <BenrightB4> hey all... i am having a problem setting up my printer to print from this computer, on my linux box and hooking it to my windows and trying to print through the network.. could anybody help me out?
[06:53] <ANTDx1> I am sure.  I am resizing the partition down to where windows has about a 70 gig and Ubuntu has about 20 gigs
[06:53] <cvt> cynical, it was my hd i used on windows
[06:53] <cynical> cvt: lol well you cant write to it by default. Follow this guide to set it up. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[06:54] <sethk> is freenode going up and down?  I lost it for a few minutes
[06:54] <`Lam> ANTDx1: if the 20 gigs of partitioned space appears with a hdb or an hda label or something, it should appear on the next page with where you are trying to mount the root directory ( / ) to
[06:54] <dave038> my screen resoution seems to be 640x480 yet the scren resoution says 1024x768
[06:55] <ANTDx1> It doesn't get that far.  It never actually frees up the space.
[06:55] <ANTDx1> I have not yet been able to take out the 20 gigs
[06:55] <smoked1> I just replaced windows with ubuntu on my laptop and now my pcmcia card reader is not working. It shows up under computer in gnome but when I try to access it it says: "unable to mount the selected volume" and "device /dev/sda1 is not removable" and "could execute pmount". Does anyone know what I need to do to make this work? This card reader is what I use to get the pictures of my kid and my wife is wigging ou that windows is gone.
[06:56] <smoked1> sorry, not could but "could not"
[06:56] <eRadic8r> any nVidia on Dell laptop experts here?
[06:56] <cynical> lol
[06:56] <sethk> smoked1, possibly the pcmcia kernel modules need to be loaded with insmod
[06:56] <little_caesa1> if I'm stuck in full screen and the screen fizzles out. What would I do to get out of it? Like the Windows equivalent of control-alt-delete, or -alt-tab
[06:56] <little_caesa1> alt-tab didn't work for me, though
[06:56] <cynical> eRadic8r: depends, ask the question :D
[06:57] <diana> little_caesa1: control alt backspace?
[06:57] <smoked1> sethk: how do I try that?
[06:57] <`Lam> ANTDx1: i don't believe the partitioner does anything until the end of the installation, where it starts to put in all changes.  to be sure, your 20 gigs of space for ubuntu is red (ext3) instead of the blue (ntfs) or grey (unpartitinoed), yes?
[06:57] <little_caesa1> diana: and what does that do?
[06:57] <sethk> little_caesa1, first, control-alt-delete works in linux also.  second, control-alt-backspace kills and restarts the gui
[06:57] <dave038> my screen resoution seems to be 640x480 yet the screen resoution application says 1024x768
[06:57] <cherubiel> smoked1: contents of /etc/pmount.allow ?
[06:57] <diana> little_caesa1: `restarts X
[06:57] <cynical> little_caesa1: you could do alt+ctrl+f1 to get to the terminal also
[06:57] <little_caesa1> control alt delete isn't doing anything for me. Are you sure?
[06:57] <cvt> cynical,  when i follow those intructions it says my pw is wrong but it's right
[06:58] <sethk> smoked1, first, run  lsmod  (list modules).
[06:58] <smoked1> cherubiel, I am looking at that file now.. thanks
[06:58] <diana> little_caesa1: control alt backspace, not delete
[06:58] <eRadic8r> can't seem to get the driver to load.....tried every trick found online but still same results
[06:58] <ANTDx1> On the graphical installer, I get to step 5, where it brings up install options.
[06:58] <cherubiel> little_caesa1: ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:58] <BenrightB4> dave038: is that for everything you use.. or just a certain program?
[06:58] <ANTDx1> There are four options.
[06:58] <sethk> smoked1, can you run lspci, then run lsmod, and paste both at the paste web site?
[06:58] <cynical> cvt: at what part?
[06:58] <eRadic8r> locks up screen on startup
[06:58] <little_caesa1> yeah, but you said Ctrl+alt+del works, or at least does something
[06:58] <cynical> eRadic8r: whats the error message?
[06:58] <little_caesa1> what if I want to force a program shut? What's the task manager shortcut?
[06:58] <cvt> cynical,  very first step
[06:58] <Schalken> can anyone help me get edgy working? i get a dozen errors when I log in.
[06:58] <dave038> BenrightB4for everything its like 640 x something
[06:58] <`Lam> ANTDx1: use the manual partition method.  the options of installation screen, to me, is confusing as hell
[06:58] <cvt> cynical,  gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:58] <smoked1> sethk, i will do that now
[06:58] <BenrightB4> little_caesal: alt-tab should work too.
[06:58] <dave038> yet it says 1024
[06:59] <`Lam> ANTDx1: edit your partition table manually
[06:59] <cynical> little_caesa1: there is none, you can make the system monitor (linux task manager) come up when hitting alt+ctrl+del tho
[06:59] <ANTDx1> I've tried, `Lam
[06:59] <`Lam> wow that's a pretty unique situation
[06:59] <cynical> cvt: dont use gksu, just sudo
[06:59] <little_caesa1> ok. Thanks
[06:59] <dave038> BenrightB4for :| got any ideas?
[06:59] <ANTDx1> When I do that, it tells me that the operation has failed.  It also warns that this could affect other operations.
[06:59] <little_caesa1> what's task manager, though?
[06:59] <cherubiel> smoked1: if you don't find your /dev/sbxx, add that to /etc/pmount.allow and then try again
[06:59] <BenrightB4> dave038: have you tried adjust the monitor itself.. i have had that problem before with some monitors.. might be yours too
[06:59] <little_caesa1> it was control Escape in KDE on my last OS (I'm a convert)
[06:59] <cynical> little_caesa1: system monitor, its under system > administration
[06:59] <little_caesa1> but I don't know what this one is
[06:59] <cherubiel> smoked1: if you don;t find it in /etc/pmount.allow that is :P
[06:59] <dave038> how would i adjust it?
[07:00] <sethk> little_caesa1, still control-escape in kde
[07:00] <little_caesa1> I need a key shortcut. Can I make one?
[07:00] <little_caesa1> I'm in Gnome
[07:00] <cynical> little_caesa1: automatix can do it for you, I forgot the manual way
[07:00] <sethk> little_caesa1, I prefer kde, but you can make the shortcut in gnome, yes
[07:00] <little_caesa1> I prefer kde too. But I can't get it until my CD gets here with kubuntu
[07:00] <`Lam> ANTDx1: i have no idea what's the exact cause of that problem from the information given. sorry i couldn't be of much help :(
[07:00] <dave038> still small resoution it seems
[07:00] <link_36p> guys im trying to fizx this apt-get error i keep getting -http://pastebin.ca/165749
[07:00] <ANTDx1> I know it's unique..I looked for it on forums.
[07:01] <geefrancis> i need some help with a driver for a USB wireless adapter, anybody in?
[07:01] <cynical> geefrancis: ask away
[07:01] <BenrightB4> dave038: there are buttons on the bottom of the monitor... use those to find the V-access and the H-access then adjust each one and then degauss it with the buttont that says degauss
[07:01] <BenrightB4> oh, sorry then, im not sure really
[07:01] <sethk> little_caesa1, you can load kde from the 'net
[07:01] <dave038> yah i tried that :| nothing
[07:01] <sethk> little_caesa1, you don't need the kubuntu cd
[07:01] <dave038> xorg problem?
[07:01] <eRadic8r> log after crash said no usable display found
[07:02] <BenrightB4> dave: i sould try rebooting personally, but who knows
[07:02] <sethk> dave038, you've already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:02] <little_caesa1> sethk: ok. I'll look into that. But I'd rather buy the tires than get the new car at the moment. Is there a way to make a shortcut? or is there one
[07:02] <dave038> no sethk
[07:02] <BenrightB4> someone else here may be able to help you much more then I though
[07:02] <sethk> dave038, try it.
[07:02] <cynical> little_caesa1: yes you can use automatix
[07:03] <little_caesa1> automatix isn't a program that my alt+f2 could launch. Where do I get it?
[07:03] <cynical> little_caesa1: http://www.getautomatix.com
[07:03] <little_caesa1> w00t. Thanks
[07:03] <dave038> wow a lot more screen resoutions
[07:03] <cynical> np
[07:03] <sethk> little_caesa1, alt-f2 can launch any program that is installed
[07:03] <little_caesa1> should be all I need
[07:03] <dave038> 192-x1440 good?
[07:04] <geefrancis> cynical, thanks.  So, first of am linux/ubuntu n00b, so we may need to go slow.  Device manager sees the device, but in the Admin > Networking it is not listed, apparently a driver exists (see http://zd1211.ath.cx/) but i have no idea how to install it
[07:04] <little_caesa1> but is it powerful enough to interrupt other apps?
[07:04] <dave038> 1920 x 1440*
[07:04] <cynical> geefrancis: ooh I have the same one!
[07:04] <sethk> dave038, how big is your monitor?
[07:04] <little_caesa1> that's something I miss from Windows. Is that when there's a freeze or some form of malfunction. You can power-user your way out of it
[07:04] <cynical> geefrancis: try sudo modprobe zd1211
[07:04] <dave038> 17"
[07:04] <little_caesa1> I'm guessing Linux can do it too and that I haven't learned yet. I'm hoping that's true
[07:04] <sethk> dave038, that's a bit small for 1920x1440, but it depends on your eyes.  You may see better than I do.
[07:05] <smoked1> I am very sorry for the delay.  pastebin.com seems to be having issues
[07:05] <sethk> smoked1, the entire 'net seems to be having issues.
[07:05] <cynical> geefrancis: and do lsmod to check if its loaded
[07:06] <cynical> little_caesa1: well the good thing about linux is that usually when an application freezes, it doesnt take the whole system down with it
[07:06] <geefrancis> cynical, that didn't appear to do anything
[07:06] <dave038> ok i have to do a command now?
[07:06] <cynical> geefrancis: do you see zd1211 anywhere near usb after typing lsmod?
[07:06] <geefrancis> cynical, hold on, missed that lsmod
[07:06] <dave038> sudo/etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[07:07] <dave038> haha i guess not
[07:07] <ungebeten> How can I upgrade jpilot, all I found is the sources and a Slackware 10.2 Package. What do I have to do with it? (in Gnome) (same with pilot-link 0.12.0)
[07:07] <smoked1> sethk: http://pastebin.ca/165797
[07:07] <dave038> still small
[07:07] <sirrush> Howdy everyone
[07:08] <dave038> maybe have to restart
[07:08] <dave038> be back later
[07:08] <sirrush> hehehe gotta like that ex chat
[07:08] <sethk> smoked1, ok, you have the RL5C476 ii cardbus bridge.  that's your pcmcia controller.
[07:09] <geefrancis> cynical, its not there in lsmod
[07:09] <cynical> geefrancis: ok thats fine, do you have your kernel sources?
[07:09] <smoked1> I also did not find it in /etc/pmount.allow so I added /dev/sda1
[07:09] <sethk> smoked1, that's not going to change anything
[07:09] <smoked1> arg
[07:10] <smoked1> should I remove that
[07:10] <smoked1> ?
[07:10] <sethk> smoked1, yes, let's change one thing at a time.
[07:10] <geefrancis> cynical, i haven't the foggiest idea of what you mean.
[07:10] <smoked1> ok man
[07:10] <cynical> geefrancis: if not, sudo apt-get install linux-source :)
[07:10] <sethk> smoked1, I'm looking up which module you need for that pcmcia chipset.  be patient, it might take a few minutes.
[07:10] <jharr> I need to make an ubuntu installer that has a custom kernel on it (device driver weirdness, adaptec, don't ask). Anyone have some good links?
[07:10] <smoked1> I will be here
[07:11] <little_caesa1> lol
[07:11] <cynical> geefrancis: kernel sources are what you need if you want to compile support for anything extra, like video card drivers, wireless drivers etc
[07:12] <geefrancis> cynical, is now grabbing data off cdrom.
[07:12] <sethk> smoked1, the kernel configuration looks correct.
[07:12] <cynical> geefrancis: great, after that download the latest driver here. http://zd1211.ath.cx/download/
[07:12] <sethk> smoked1, what pcmcia card are you using?  you said you are connecting a camera, right?
[07:13] <cvt> cynical, what's the 3rd step mean under 2. Configuration?
[07:13] <smoked1> sethk, No it is a pcmcia card that I use for reading the card from my sony memory card
[07:13] <sethk> smoked1, ok.  I do the same thing, but with a CF card.
[07:13] <sethk> smoked1, does the computer have USB?
[07:14] <sethk> because the easy way to fix this is to use a USB card reader.
[07:14] <cvt> cynical,  /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>
[07:14] <cynical> cvt: it means that in the /etc/fstab entry for your windows partition, change where it says ntfs to ntfs-3g. Also change what comes after it to what he has listed
[07:14] <smoked1> Yes, it has USB
[07:14] <ryctor> hey
[07:14] <sethk> smoked1, the card readers are cheap.  I saw one that reads five different types of memory cards for about $20.
[07:15] <sethk> smoked1, the pcmcia one should work, but for $20, is it worth the time it might take to figure it out?
[07:15] <cynical> cvt: it should already be setup for you, you just have to change it to what he has listed (everything after mount point)
[07:15] <snake> does apt-get log what it installs, and if so, where can I locate that log
[07:15] <cvt> cynical,  the line of code right before didn't work b/c it said gksu and sudo didn't work
[07:15] <ryctor> which file to edit in order to modprobe a module at boot?
[07:15] <sethk> ryctor, /etc/modules
[07:15] <cynical> cvt: well if sudo didnt work you must not be using the right password
[07:15] <smoked1> sethk: No it is not worth it. My pcmcia card can take a dump for all I care.
[07:15] <cvt> cynical,  and i don't have the gksu password
[07:16] <cvt> cynical,  i have mulitple passwords?
[07:16] <snake> does apt-get log what it installs, and if so, where can I locate that log
[07:16] <smoked1> I just need to be able to read this type of card so that my woman does not curse linux
[07:16] <cynical> cvt: no, the one you created for your user account is the one you use for everything
[07:16] <geefrancis> cynical, terminal is telling me it will be another 6mins before kernel sources are downloaded, will let you know when complete, have already downloaded latest driver from aformentioned page
[07:16] <cvt> cynical, sudo accepts my pw but it didn't move for a long time
[07:16] <sethk> smoked1, I'll tell you the card reader I'm using with ubuntu; it takes that format also.
[07:16] <sethk> k
[07:16] <cynical> geefrancis: ok :)
[07:16] <ryctor> thks
[07:17] <smoked1> thd formayt is minisd
[07:17] <smoked1> sorry: format
[07:17] <cynical> cvt: uhh thats strange. You typed the commands exactly?
[07:17] <sethk> smoked1, this reader is a "mediaGear".   it does the cf, sony, and the little card from my palm also
[07:17] <sethk> smoked1, I've also used a sandisk reader with ubuntu without problems.
[07:18] <link_36p> guys im trying to fizx this apt-get error i keep getting -http://pastebin.ca/165749
[07:18] <ronybeck> OK should I use XGL or AIGLX?
[07:18] <ronybeck> on Edgy
[07:18] <sethk> smoked1, there are lots of others, most work with linux.
[07:18] <cynical> ronybeck: xgl if you have an nvidia card or a new ati card :P
[07:18] <cvt> cynical,  yes i copied them
[07:18] <ronybeck> cynical, kewl.  Any particular reason?
[07:18] <cynical> cvt: and you don't get any errors?
[07:19] <cynical> ronybeck: yes, mostly because until newer drivers are released you wont be able to get compositing working
[07:19] <cvt> cynical,  no errors accept that gksu doesn't accept my pw
[07:19] <`Lam> if my computer is running an x86-64 OS, and a program was designed under the x86 architecture, does compiling that program from source do anything?
[07:19] <cvt> cynical,  it doesn't bring back the command prompt
[07:19] <smoked1> sethk, bsre with me a sec m y kid is trippin
[07:19] <ungebeten> Is there a way to upgrade a package when I don't find the new version in the repositories?
[07:19] <ronybeck> cynical, thanks :-)
[07:19] <cynical> ronybeck: sure :)
[07:20] <cynical> ungebeten: you could compile it yourself from the latest source :P
[07:20] <Efwis> help, I need to make sure my apache server is getting through the iptables on my dapper install
[07:20] <cherubiel> smoked1: please try with the device entry in /etc/pmount.allow and try to mount again
[07:20] <Healot> ungebeten: get the source directly from the author site; build your own ubuntu package; or install it from an alternate repos
[07:20] <cynical> ungebeten: doesn't get newer than that
[07:20] <Faithen> huzza!
[07:21] <cynical> cvt: what step are you on?
[07:21] <snake> does apt-get log what it installs, and if so, where can I locate that log
[07:21] <w30>       /part
[07:21] <ungebeten> cynical: sounds complicated. Is that for beginners?
[07:21] <Faithen> Can any one lead me to the Ubuntu page that gives directions for installing Nvidia drivers?
[07:22] <Healot> no, ungebeten
[07:22] <cherubiel> !nvidia > Faithen
[07:22] <Healot> pretty much for intermediate or advanced users
[07:22] <cvt> cynical,  step 2 of 2. configuration
[07:22] <cynical> ungebeten: its really not hard. With most software its as simple as moving to the directory (in a terminal) and typing ./configure, then make && make install
[07:22] <Faithen> !nvidia
[07:22] <`Lam> i had problems compiling from source due to missing packages
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <cynical> ungebeten: now turning that source code into a proper .deb package, thats a whole other story
[07:22] <Faithen> thank you
[07:23] <cvt> cynical,  it doesn't accept my pw for gksu on the second line of code under 2. Configuration
[07:23] <ungebeten> I'm afraid that i might break my existing installation
[07:23] <cynical> cvt: instead of using gksu, just use sudo. As in 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[07:23] <geefrancis> cynical, sources are finished, driver is downloaded, whats next?
[07:23] <`Lam> ungebeten: you usually don't have to worry about that.  if the program was programmed correctly, it won't let you install the program from source if it doesn't configure and make itself correctly
[07:24] <cynical> geefrancis: excellent, first extract it
[07:24] <cvt> cynical,  that's when it accepts my pw but just sits there for a long time with no action
[07:24] <geefrancis> cynical, done
[07:24] <cynical> geefrancis: then, in a terminal, change to the directory you just extracted and type 'make && make install'
[07:24] <ungebeten> `Lam: Thanks, I'll try that
[07:24] <cynical> cvt: damn, well I'm not really sure what can be done about that :(
[07:25] <Bandit52241> hello everyone
[07:25] <smoked1> \
[07:25] <snake> does apt-get log what it installs, and if so, where can I locate that log
[07:26] <cynical> geefrancis: now do 'modprobe -v zd1211'
[07:26] <Faithen> erm.... huh...
[07:26] <cynical> geefrancis: and lsmod to make sure its there
[07:27] <geefrancis> cynical, bash is telling me ' make: command not found'
[07:27] <Faithen> Question, how do i find out what my kernel is?
[07:27] <cynical> geefrancis: np, do 'sudo apt-get install make flex bison binutils build-essential'
[07:28] <cynical> geefrancis: those are most of the programs you need when compiling software
[07:28] <Bandit52241> new to ubuntu here
[07:28] <lhds> how to get a public key for a repository address i got? synaptic needs that
[07:28] <cynical> Faithen: 'uname -r'
[07:28] <`Lam> does anyone know if i compile a native x86 program from source, will it work on a x64 OS?
[07:28] <geefrancis> cynical, you have an impressive wealth of knowledge at your fingertips
[07:28] <cynical> geefrancis: lol thanks :D
[07:29] <Faithen> in terminal i'm assuming?
[07:29] <cynical> geefrancis: we all had to start somewhere
[07:29] <cynical> Faithen: yes
[07:29] <kenshin6x> hi... my nvidia driver not activate the support for openglx.. see: Direct Rendering: NO.. whats solution for it?
[07:30] <smoked1> sethk: Thank you for your help
[07:31] <geefrancis> cynical, the bison finished
[07:31] <sethk> smoked1, np, hope I helped.
[07:31] <smoked1> I have 2 usbn card readers at work and I will bring them both home to see if any of them work
[07:31] <cynical> geefrancis: ok now try make && make install again
[07:31] <cvt> cynical,  i got past that step now
[07:32] <Faithen> you know, last time i did this, i had to reinstall Ubuntu. Oi.. all in the name of being able to run CoV.
[07:32] <Efwis> faitehn in terminal type uname -r
[07:32] <cynical> cvt: wow took a while
[07:32] <Faithen> fun times were had by all
[07:32] <geefrancis> cynical, got this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[07:32] <geefrancis> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[07:32] <Faithen> already did it, and found the module
[07:32] <cvt> cynical,  on the next line of code since it doesn't have the line of my nfts partion and i have to add a line of code, do i have to provide a space at the end of the file?
[07:33] <cynical> cvt: are you sure you have an ntfs partition? Ubuntu usually recognizes it an add it to the fstab if you do
[07:33] <cafuego> geefrancis: You're missing the "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" package.
[07:33] <cvt> cynical,  no.
[07:33] <smoked1> cherubiel, I will also try adding what you said to /etc/pmount.allow. Should I add /dev/sda1 as per the error? Should I just restart the system or is there a command that I can issue instead?
[07:34] <Faithen> i'll be back... i hope
[07:34] <geefrancis> cafuego or cynical. where would i then get that paclkage?
[07:35] <cynical> geefrancis: ah I forgot something. Do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:35] <cafuego> geefrancis: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:35] <smoked1> cherubiel, are you there?
[07:35] <smoked1> cherubiel: are you there?
[07:35] <cvt> before i add a line of code do i need to provide a space before the line a load above it?
[07:37] <manmadha> can any one tell how to run ecclipse
[07:37] <manmadha> prog?
[07:38] <manmadha> i want to run the c,c++,python prog How to do it?
[07:38] <manmadha> by eclipse
[07:38] <sethk> manmadha, if it is installed, you just type eclipse at a command prompt
[07:38] <manmadha> ?
[07:38] <sethk> manmadha, it's probably on a menu somewhere, but why bother with menus?
[07:38] <manmadha> sethk, ya but i dont know how to compile it?
[07:38] <manmadha> can u help me?
[07:38] <sethk> manmadha, you want to build eclipse itself?
[07:39] <sethk> or use eclipse to build other programs?
[07:39] <manmadha> sethk, ya i wnat to compile the programs.....not eclipse
[07:39] <sethk> manmadha, ok.  have you installed eclipse?
[07:39] <manmadha> sethk, ya
[07:40] <sethk> manmadha, I've used eclipse with java.  the java plug in is very good.
[07:40] <sethk> when I tried the c++ plug in, it was bad, but it may be better now
[07:41] <manmadha> sethk, my gcc is not working properly ......so i tried to install eclipse
[07:41] <geefrancis> cynical, new error when trying the make &&.. again: mkdir: cannot create directory `/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/net': Permission denied
[07:41] <geefrancis> make: *** [install]  Error 1
[07:41] <manmadha> when i tried to compile the prog giving this error"""gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory
[07:41] <manmadha> """
[07:41] <cynical> geefrancis: ah, in that case use sudo make && sudo make install
[07:41] <Milktea> I allovasudden don't have any sound
[07:41] <Milktea> What happened?
[07:42] <lhds> geefrancis type sudo than your order
[07:42] <daaku> is there a separate channel for edgy? i'm having a specific issue with upstart (related to password prompt on boot with the cryptdisks init script)
[07:42] <Milktea> How do I restart my ALSA mixer
[07:42] <sethk> manmadha, do this:   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:42] <foo>  Esetroot is a nice wallpapersetter. You won't have any problems. .. I get this when doing fbsetbg -i ... hm, but when I start up fluxbox it saves my style but not my background, any ideas?
[07:42] <sethk> manmadha, that will install the compiler and other tools you need
[07:42] <eneried> hello anybody?
[07:42] <geefrancis> cynical, that appeared to work
[07:42] <manmadha> sethk, ok 1m
[07:43] <cynical> great, now do sudo modprobe -v zd1211
[07:43] <eneried> i need a little help, i changed my broken old board to a new one, and isnatlled the old disk in the new, ubuntu started, it recognizes my sound card, but there's no sound :(
[07:43] <b0ysc0ut> i got a problem with VI..anybody?
[07:43] <Healot> !info java-package
[07:43] <ubotu> java-package: utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.27 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 336 kB
[07:43] <Faithen> hokay
[07:43] <Faithen> lets see
[07:43] <cynical> geefrancis: and lsmod to check if its there
[07:43] <Faithen> next step.. doh.
[07:43] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: ?
[07:44] <cvt> is there an alternative to pastebin.com?
[07:44] <Faithen> On step ten i am getting this error in terminal from executing the command at the top
[07:44] <b0ysc0ut> example vi ~/.bashrc_profile
[07:44] <Faithen>  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:44] <Faithen> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[07:44] <Faithen> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[07:44] <Faithen> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[07:44] <Faithen> command:
[07:44] <Faithen> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[07:44] <Faithen> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[07:44] <b0ysc0ut> then when i try to edited it wont let me
[07:44] <Xenguy> Faithen: don't paste here
[07:44] <e-type> morning all
[07:44] <Milktea> How do I restart my ALSA mixer
[07:44] <Milktea> ):
[07:44] <eneried> please help me
[07:44] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: type 'i' for 'Insert'
[07:45] <Faithen> right, sorry not used to the way IRC spams
[07:45] <b0ysc0ut> ok..then when im done with the edit..just Q?
[07:45] <e-type> Milktea: you mean to reset it's settings or simply start alsamixer up again?
[07:45] <geefrancis> cynical, its there when i do the lsmod, but the modprobe doesn't appear to do anything
[07:45] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: press 'Esc' to leave insert mode
[07:45] <manmadha> sethk, ya completed ....
[07:45] <daaku> anyone here using upstart with cryptdisks on edgy?
[07:45] <eneried> hello, i have a problem, my sound card does not sound
[07:46] <Milktea> e-type, start it up again
[07:46] <sethk> manmadha, ok, try again from eclipse
[07:46] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: this will save and quit: :wq
[07:46] <manmadha> sethk, ya my gcc is working
[07:46] <cynical> geefrancis: thats perfect, now do ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:46] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: followed by "Enter"
[07:46] <sethk> manmadha, good
[07:46] <amittp> Hi, is there a reason why I can see my dvd's getting automounted but mplayer and totem refuse to see them through view toolbar
[07:46] <b0ysc0ut> thank u Xenguy
[07:46] <e-type> Milktea: run a mixer app like gnome's volume control or run '$ alsamixer' in a terminal
[07:46] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: n
[07:46] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: np
[07:46] <geefrancis> cynical, ok, again, very little appears to have happened
[07:46] <rosster> i can't seem to find anything about rotating my display 90 degrees, anyone know how?
[07:46] <TylerDurdener> how do i cd into a hidden dir? cd /.name wont work
[07:47] <cynical> geefrancis: thats ok :)
[07:47] <Milktea> e-type, that works, but I'm not getting any sound at all
[07:47] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: or just 'ZZ' :-)
[07:47] <fiendskull9> hey, i install the xfonts-artwiz package, which contains a font called snap
[07:47] <Milktea> from my computer
[07:47] <fiendskull9> but nothing can use that font
[07:47] <b0ysc0ut> im tryin to put fortune with cowsay..lets c how it works :)
[07:47] <eyequeue> TylerDurdener, omit the leading slash
[07:47] <eneried> Milktea, using kde or gnome?
[07:47] <cynical> geefrancis: now iwconfig wlan0 essid youressid
[07:47] <Milktea> gnome
[07:47] <TylerDurdener> thanks eyequeue
[07:47] <eyequeue> TylerDurdener, np
[07:47] <Milktea> When I use XMMS, it says it can't even find the ALSA plugin
[07:47] <Milktea> :/
[07:47] <geefrancis> cynical, the wireless connetion now appears in the Network manager
[07:47] <Faithen> huh...
[07:48] <eneried> Milktea, in gnome open system->preferences->sound and select tyour sound card
[07:48] <Milktea> It was working a few minutes ago, then XMMS crashed
[07:48] <Milktea> ok
[07:48] <cynical> geefrancis: now just activate it and you're done
[07:48] <rosster> ummm, i'm using gnome
[07:48] <Rookie-> !alias
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <Milktea> My sound card is selected already
[07:48] <rosster> !display
[07:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:48] <geefrancis> cynical, thanks so much, i really appreciate the time and effort
[07:48] <Rookie-> wasnt it !alias" to use to change a *.bin file to a *.deb file ?
[07:49] <eneried> um, then try double clicking the volume control to open a big volume control and select volume for your card there
[07:49] <cynical> geefrancis: np, you can also do sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome if you want a graphical display for it
[07:49] <Milktea> It's selected already
[07:49] <eneried> if there's no sound you need the same help as me, system recognizes the soundcard, but there's no sound
[07:49] <rosster> so, does anyone know how to rotate your display with x windows?
[07:49] <yoshiznit123> rookie, i think its alien
[07:50] <b0ysc0ut> Xenguy i get this error
[07:50] <Milktea> I get the sound
[07:50] <Milktea> but after a few hours of use
[07:50] <Milktea> it disappears
[07:50] <Milktea> :/
[07:50] <Rookie-> ahh, oki
[07:50] <b0ysc0ut> (1) Another program may be editing the same file.
[07:50] <b0ysc0ut>     If this is the case, be careful not to end up with two
[07:50] <b0ysc0ut>     different instances of the same file when making changes.
[07:50] <b0ysc0ut>     Quit, or continue with caution.
[07:50] <eneried> :(
[07:50] <Rookie-> !alien
[07:50] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[07:50] <asdf123> hello
[07:51] <b0ysc0ut> (2) An edit session for this file crashed.
[07:51] <b0ysc0ut>     If this is the case, use ":recover" or "vim -r /home/X/.bash_profile"
[07:51] <b0ysc0ut>     to recover the changes (see ":help recovery").
[07:51] <b0ysc0ut>     If you did this already, delete the swap file "/home/X/.bash_profile.swp"
[07:51] <b0ysc0ut>     to avoid this message.
[07:51] <rosster> alas, does anyone know how to rotate the display 90 degrees?
[07:51] <cvt> cynical,  i have an external hd via usb
[07:51] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: please stop pasting in this channel
[07:51] <rosster> or is that impossible using linux?
[07:51] <b0ysc0ut> sorry!!
[07:51] <sethk> b0ysc0ut, yes?  the message tells you exactly what to do.
[07:51] <cvt> Xenguy,  where are we supposed to paste?
[07:51] <Milktea> ugh i just have to restart
[07:51] <eyequeue> !paste > cvt
[07:51] <Xenguy> cvt: !pastebin
[07:51] <sethk> !paste
[07:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:51] <asdf123> I NEED HELP WITH VMWARE, i installed it but it wont run, it is sayin 'Failed to execute' and no bash known vmware
[07:51] <ronybeck> cynical, XGL works awsome.  Thanks for the advice
[07:52] <eyequeue> !caps
[07:52] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:52] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: it sounds like vim is crashing for some reason - which is not good :-)
[07:52] <asdf123> ok
[07:52] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: it shouldn't be
[07:52] <b0ysc0ut> how can i fix it?
[07:53] <asdf123> any1 know how i can fix it my vmware problem?
[07:53] <rosster> arg, so no one here knows anything about rotating displays's?
[07:53] <b0ysc0ut> i did the recovery..but when i go check again it would tell me the same thing!
[07:53] <rosster> can anyone point me in a direction of somewhere else?
[07:53] <eneried> coukld anybody help me?
[07:53] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: maybe you want to remove/purge vim, and try again?  I'm not sure what else to suggest; maybe someone else does
[07:54] <S1NGH> greetings all
[07:54] <Healot> S1NGH: mere bhai
[07:54] <b0ysc0ut> ill keep trying..thanx Xenguy
[07:54] <asdf123> loll
[07:54] <S1NGH> eh kasa hai?
[07:54] <eneried> there's no sound in my ubuntu...
[07:54] <asdf123> hindi
[07:54] <asdf123> lol
[07:54] <Xenguy> b0ysc0ut: good luck - vim is very stable, so don't accept less than that :-)
[07:54] <Healot> yeah
[07:54] <Abst> Hey S1NGH
[07:54] <e-type> rosster: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Widescreen_Resolutions_(WSXGA)#Xrandr_and_Rotate
[07:54] <b0ysc0ut> haha :)
[07:55] <asdf123> vmware help ps
[07:55] <rosster> thanks, e-type
[07:55] <`Lam> does anyone know if compiling a native x86 program from source will allow tthe program to work on an x64 OS?
[07:55] <e-type> rosster: np
[07:55] <rosster> e-type: muchos gracias, again...
[07:55] <asdf123> vmware doesnt start up, help some1
[07:55] <e-type> rosster: np again ;)
[07:56] <Healot> `Lam: most of the time, there is no need to do any changes...
[07:56] <Bennedetto> alright, ive got a quick question here, i just installed vlc and its not playing my dvds.  So, any ideas on what is a good video player that supports dvd playback
[07:56] <eneried> i have an integrated soundcard, i look in sound and it is selected, the volume control is on, and it is near the clock, but i have no sound
[07:56] <asdf123> install automatix
[07:56] <asdf123> or somthig like tha
[07:56] <eneried> what can i do?
[07:56] <asdf123> it lets you install most codecs
[07:57] <foo> I did apt-get install sun-java5-bin and java still is a no go. What am I missing?
[07:57] <asdf123> again, use automatix
[07:57] <eneried> see you later, there's no help for me here
[07:57] <yoshiznit123> what's the difference between easyubuntu and automatix?
[07:57] <yoshiznit123> foo, for the plugin you might need sun-java5-plugin
[07:58] <eyequeue> both are unsupported in here
[07:58] <asdf123> VMWare any1?
[07:58] <eyequeue> !easyubuntu
[07:58] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:58] <yoshiznit123> and then maybe sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:58] <eyequeue> !automatix
[07:58] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:58] <foo> yoshiznit123: ah, tahnks
[07:58] <asdf123> !vmware
[07:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[08:00] <Fnyar> Is there a default mail sending interface on Ubuntu Server? Something like "mail". It doesn't look like that's installed by default.
[08:00] <Gumby> foo: I know the answer to this one, I had to fix it earlier.. and it had nothing to do with automatix
[08:00] <foo> Gumby: ahh. automatix? Wha?
[08:01] <Gumby> I was referring to the people telling you to use automatix
[08:01] <asdf123> some1 help me
[08:01] <rosster> e-type, i get an error when i try to rotate...
[08:02] <Gumby> foo: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:02] <Healot> mail agent... Fnyar,  I think postfix is installed by default in server install
[08:02] <e-type> rosster: okay, which one?
[08:02] <Gumby> foo: this will allow you to pick which jvm you want to use
[08:02] <e-type> rosster: I never used it, so no promises of fixes ;)
[08:02] <rosster> it says xerror of failed request: badmatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[08:02] <foo> There is only 1 program which provides java
[08:02] <foo> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[08:02] <foo> Gumby: ah, I remember doing this
[08:02] <rosster> major opcode: 153
[08:03] <rosster> it give like 4 lines of different opcodes and serial codes
[08:03] <Fnyar> maybe I  opted not to install it, but  I have installed sendmail. Unfortunately, I don't think sendmail provides a way to send an email via a single command. It looks like I have to enter an interactive mode if I want to send one.
[08:03] <Bennedetto> hold on here, what plugin would i have to install to get totem to support dvds
[08:04] <Healot> libdvdread3
[08:04] <e-type> rosster: don't know, try google or #xorg or something
[08:04] <rosster> okie, thanks
[08:04] <e-type> fyrfaktry: ??
[08:04] <asdffg1234> some1 help me
[08:04] <asdffg1234> some1 help me
[08:04] <asdffg1234> some1 help me
[08:04] <Healot> btw, replace totem with totem-xine and install libxine-extracodecs is recommended...
[08:04] <S1NGH> i hav a prob
[08:04] <e-type> erm Fnyar : ???
[08:05] <e-type> fyrfaktry: sorry, wrong hilite ;)
[08:05] <S1NGH> i get the bsdport.h error 2 when i try to use make command
[08:05] <eigenlambda> asdffg1234: what with?
[08:05] <asdffg1234> vmware
[08:06] <Cap1ain> hello
[08:06] <asdffg1234> it doesnt start up, even when i start in terminal
[08:07] <Bennedetto> Healot, alright im installing totem-xine, but i cant find the extracodecs package
[08:07] <diana> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/ .. is there anything like that for Ubuntu? How can I have firefox resident in memory all the time, so when I start it, it starts really fast.
[08:07] <Healot> !repos > Bennedetto
[08:07] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:07] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:08] <Bennedetto> i have added the multiverse repository
[08:08] <davin> hi, i made a backup with dd yesterday prior to tinkering with Compiz, now it doesnt work so I want to restore, so would I just use 'sudo dd if=/media/usbdisk/backup/image of=/dev/sda3' ? im in single-user mode, so I also need to check if my usbdisk is connected..
[08:08] <Healot> libxine-extracodecs >> can you spell, Bennedetto?
[08:08] <Bennedetto> hold on, maybe not
[08:09] <Bennedetto> bah, sorry, used to gentoo here :S
[08:09] <Bennedetto> still working out the differences
[08:10] <davin> Im not gonna try anything yet as I can screw it up again
[08:10] <diana> davin: Wouldn't it be easier just to downgrade the compiz packages?
[08:11] <diana> davin: And rm -rf ~/.gconf/compiz
[08:11] <Abst> What are the benefits to using a AMD kernal?
[08:11] <asdffg1234> vmware
[08:11] <asdffg1234> it doesnt start up, even when i start in terminal
[08:11] <davin> diana; no, I made alot of scripts and tinkered with my system
[08:11] <holycow> heh
[08:11] <Cap1ain> is apt the same system that debian uses?
[08:11] <Healot> YES
[08:11] <davin> diana: I just made a big 105gb backup of my system yesterday night
[08:11] <holycow> just got hit with a weird bug similar to the 'intermittent but hard to debug somewhat  borked ide cable'
[08:12] <ubuntu-novice> All: I have three broken packages in Synaptic Package Manager.  However, when I attempt to remove them it warns me saying that *everything* will be removed and will render system unusable.  How do I recuperate package manager?
[08:12] <holycow> an intermittently working dvd / burner cdrom device
[08:12] <holycow> weird thing is i always blame the os first
[08:12] <Ademan> is a Centrino proccessor 686?
[08:12] <davin> how can I see what drives are connected from a terminal?
[08:12] <asdffg1234> vmware help any1?
[08:12] <yoshiznit123> is there a c programming irc channel?
[08:12] <Ademan> yoshiznit123: what's your question?
[08:12] <trakz> ##c
[08:13] <Ademan> yoshiznit123: and there's a ##c++ here so why not ##c
[08:13] <yoshiznit123> trakz, ademan, ok thanks
[08:13] <asdffg1234> vmware help any1?
[08:13] <davin> anyone know a terminal command to see what drives/partitions are connected?
[08:14] <Ademan> Abst: if you have an AMD chip, it should be faster
[08:14] <ubuntu-novice> davin: (newbie myself, so pardon me if I am wrong) wouldn't mount help you?
[08:14] <Healot> davin: physical connection or the mounted partitions?
[08:14] <holycow> davin, fdisk -l
[08:15] <davin> ubuntu-novice: nah, I want to see what it recognizes, im about to restore a backup from a recovery console
[08:15] <Healot> "mount" is enough
[08:15] <davin> holyhow: lemme try
[08:15] <Healot> sudo fdisk -l
[08:15] <davin> fdisk-l is what I needed, thanks :-)
[08:15] <ubuntu-novice> davin: okay
[08:15] <davin> hm it doesnt recognize my usb harddisk
[08:16] <Abst> Ademan: If I use Synaptic is there much danger to it?
[08:16] <davin> weird
[08:16] <Ademan> Abst: do you have an AMD chip?
[08:16] <Abst> Yes
[08:16] <Ademan> then no i'd say there's no danger
[08:16] <ubuntu-novice> Abst: I was bitten by Synaptic yesterday.  My upgrade resulted in broken packages which I couldn't resolve.
[08:16] <zeronenorez> hey guys undering can't shutdown or restart ubuntu, I know how to add them: it's easy :->   System>Administration>Login Window Make sure you have Show Actions Menu checked under Menu Bar and that should do ya
[08:17] <Ademan> just be sure you know how to select different kernels in the GRUB menu at boot time
[08:17] <Ademan> just in case
[08:17] <davin> ubuntu-novice: theres a fine tutorial on ubuntuforums.org
[08:17] <davin> ubuntu-novice: on fixing that upgrade problem
[08:17] <ubuntu-novice> davin: thanks much..
[08:17] <Abst> Ademan: Is there a dialouge that shows all my sys info
[08:18] <Ademan> Abst: what do you mean? in the GRUB boot? or to determine what AMD chip you have?
[08:18] <Abst> The latter
[08:18] <Dremth> would someone like to answer a question for me?
[08:18] <Abst> !ask
[08:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:18] <davin> when I type 'fdisk -l' it shows all 3 partition on my harddisk (sda1 for WinXP, sda2 for Swap, sda3 for Ubuntu) but it doesnt show/recognize my usb harddisk? (before /dev/sdf)
[08:18] <Dremth> ok
[08:18] <Dremth> just wanted to see if anyone was here
[08:19] <trakz> I'm not here
[08:19] <Dremth> :D
[08:19] <Abst> No one is here, just 814 people :P
[08:19] <Dremth> i have a computer that has a hard drive formatted in ntfs... is it safe to resize that partition with the partition manager?
[08:19] <ubuntu-novice> What is the name of the local font directory where can I store the .ttf files local to my login?
[08:19] <Sarra_> It's scary when the server throws a fit and starts booting people
[08:20] <davin> Dremth: depends, is Windows on it?
[08:20] <Dremth> yes
[08:20] <davin> Dremth: you have to be careful then as its the first partition on your harddisk
[08:20] <Healot> !font > ubuntu-novice
[08:20] <Dremth> so i shouldnt resize it?
[08:21] <Dremth> because ubuntu cant write to ntfs, right?
[08:21] <davin> Dremth:  I think you can, but dont try to resize the beginning, itll render it unbootable
[08:21] <davin> Dremth: linux cant write to ntfs, no, youve had to use Windows to resize it
[08:21] <trakz> davin: how do you know that? Aren't you assuming?
[08:21] <Dremth> well, how do i resize the end?
[08:21] <TEN> Need to connect by UDP port 500 to other manufacturers' servers from the Cisco VPN Client, tellingly named v4.0.4 (nomen est omen - they must've been thinking of HTTP)... Now three non-Cisco servers complain about the size of Cisco's packets, being shorter than advertised and not in multiples of 4 bytes as the standard seems to require. While Cisco's own equipment may be tolerant of this, I wonder if the same holds true for any free VPN se
[08:22] <Dremth> and would you know i can use windows to resize my partition?
[08:22] <Dremth> know how* i can use..
[08:22] <davin> trakz: nah, I tried resizing my windows once, and it lifted the first sector up so I couldnt boot, ive fixed it by just putting it back to 0 and resizing the end
[08:22] <stealg> hi how can i know what its my kernel
[08:22] <davin> Dremth: using compmpgmt.msc
[08:23] <Healot> uname -a > stealg
[08:23] <Bennedetto> wow, i have to say that there is nothing more frustrating than not being able to do a simple task like watch a dvd
[08:23] <Abst> !dvd
[08:23] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:23] <davin> anyway, my terminal (recovery mode) here wont recognize my usb harddrive..
[08:23] <davin> Dremth: dont say I didnt warn you though, resizing Windows is risky
[08:23] <stealg> tnks Healot
[08:23] <Healot> it is not frustrating if you actuall knows what to do :)
[08:23] <Abst> Bennedetto: Ubuntu does not come with commercial formats, DVD is commercial.
[08:23] <Bennedetto> i know
[08:24] <Abst> I watch dvds every day on Ubuntu, just need to get it set up first
[08:24] <trakz> Dremth: back up before you screw around with partitions
[08:24] <davin> trakz, Dremth: exactly
[08:24] <Bennedetto> i have 3 applications installed with dvd support, none of which are working
[08:24] <davin> Bennedetto: try easyubuntu
[08:24] <Abst> Bennedetto: You can't just install Gxine, you need the codecs too
[08:25] <infidel> Abst: how did you set it up, i always get error when trying to watch a dvd
[08:25] <Bennedetto> i have the codecs installed
[08:25] <davin> can somenoe help me with my usb harddrive problem?
[08:25] <ubuntu-novice> Speaking of watching DVD I was seeing flickering lines in full-screen mode in any DVD player that I used.  I have still not installed my nVidia drivers.  Could that be the reason?  I don't see flickering lines in non-full screen mode.
[08:25] <Bennedetto> davin: i dont need to run easyubuntu, i know how to use linux
[08:25] <trakz> Bennedetto: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:25] <Bennedetto> i'm just frustrated with dvds!
[08:25] <davin> Bennedetto: okay, sorry
[08:25] <Bennedetto> np
[08:25] <Abst> infidel: what error
[08:26] <davin> Bennedetto: though easyubuntu installs like every dvd codec on earth
[08:26] <Bennedetto> that would be nice
[08:26] <Bennedetto> i just want a package that does that
[08:26] <infidel> Abst: it opens the dvd but says an't read the file
[08:26] <davin> Bennedetto: also mp3, flash, java, etc
[08:26] <davin> Bennedetto: google it
[08:26] <Abst> infidel: I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats and I did 'How to make things work in a hurry'. Installed every package. Also try Easyubuntu, which I didnt use.
[08:26] <trakz> Bennedetto: Doesn't automatix do just that?
[08:26] <AnAnt> I need to print a PDF file, but I need to rescale it to be able to print 2 or 4 pages on a single page, how can I do that ?
[08:27] <Dremth> i have another question... i have another computer i want to install ubuntu on but it only has 128 mb of ram... is there a way i can make it work with just 128 mb of ram??
[08:27] <infidel> Abst: what is easyubuntu
[08:27] <Dremth> it usually freezes when i try to boot
[08:27] <Abst> !easyubuntu
[08:27] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:27] <Healot> Dremth: get xubuntu
[08:28] <davin> terminal wont recognize usb harddrive..
[08:28] <Dremth> i thought it was still in betas
[08:28] <infidel> Abst: ok thanks
[08:28] <Bennedetto> trakz: i didnt give automatix a try yet
[08:28] <davin> Bennedetto: automatix is very alpha, it broke most users' systems, so be careful
[08:28] <Lilandra> hi, if i had ubuntu-desktop, and i wanted to get rid of all that and whatever goes with it and just get what would come with the server install, what meta package would i need?
[08:29] <trakz> Bennedetto: Try it, worked great for me. YMMV
[08:29] <Bennedetto> well, im following the wiki, and it had me run a shell script
[08:29] <Abst> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[08:29] <Bennedetto> so thats was 'hopefully' all i needed
[08:29] <Abst> Should get dvds working ._.
[08:29] <davin> Abst: or just use easyubuntu :] 
[08:29] <Abst> Hehe
[08:29] <Abst> I know
[08:30] <davin> Terminal doesnt show usb harddrive when fdisk -l?
[08:30] <factotum> so, is it me or is the web slowly turning into nothing but rounded corner boxes and Trebuchet fonts of the same articles recycled over and over again?
[08:30] <der0b> following the restrictedformats page is great, it get's you what you need and you get to do a little via the command line.  it's not a lot of work and you get to 'do it yourself'
[08:31] <davin> der0b: yep, thats the fun part of linux
[08:31] <davin> fatotum: depends on what sites you go on ;p
[08:31] <factotum> hehe
[08:31] <Bennedetto> YAY!
[08:31] <trakz> except when updates break compiz... sob!
[08:31] <Bennedetto> it works!
[08:31] <davin> Bennedetto: I love it when that happens
[08:31] <der0b> personally, I'd skip easy ubuntu and automatix and just follow the guides.  you know exactly what you're installing
[08:31] <Bennedetto> trakz: lol, compiz is my next step
[08:32] <davin> someone help me with my harddisk already
[08:32] <Abst> der0b: I agree
[08:32] <talon> how do you install openoffice 2.0.4/2.0.3 on ubuntu?
[08:32] <trakz> Bennedetto: it's busted (at the moment)
[08:32] <Bennedetto> thats why i switched to ubuntu, i was tired of fighting with it in gentoo
[08:32] <tortho> Need help with mounting a mobile phones 2GB memory stick..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23045
[08:32] <Abst> !Patience
[08:32] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:32] <davin> Hm
[08:32] <Bennedetto> well, i wont be giving it a try for a couple of days, so hopefully its fixed by then
[08:32] <davin> Anyway fdisk -l wont show up my usb harddrive where my backup is stored so im stuck at this command line irssi
[08:32] <talon> how do you install openoffice 2.0.4/2.0.3 on ubuntu?
[08:33] <Bennedetto> im also going to be using aiglx, as it supposedly works better on my hardware
[08:33] <der0b> davin: is anything showing up in dmesg when you connect your drive?
[08:33] <nalpha> guys how to copy cd to cd using one cd-rw in ubuntu
[08:33] <poetra> help me
[08:33] <poetra> help me
[08:33] <davin> der0b: dmesg?
[08:33] <talon> hello?
[08:34] <poetra> my eth is interrupt 11, i don't know why
[08:34] <Dremth> i went to this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu    to try to see how to install xubuntu from a ubuntu cd, but the screenshots link to an osdir page that says the screenshots have been archived... what should i do?
[08:34] <paradizelost> hey, in xchat-gnome, if i right click in the input bar at the bottom, it closes the program
[08:34] <poetra> somebody can solve my problems
[08:34] <OrionUser> Anyone feel like doing linmodem help tonight?  I'm near exhausted on trying to install my agere.
[08:35] <talon> how do you compile openoffice?
[08:35] <der0b> davin: I haven't had the problem you're having, but enter dmesg at the prompt.  see what it tells you about the drive.  it may give you a dev name that you can then mount
[08:35] <davin> hey it worked yay
[08:35] <Bennedetto> OMG, my sound control buttons work! OMG!!! Ubuntu just went up a notch in my books!
[08:35] <davin> der0b: it works now, thanks
[08:35] <der0b> wow
[08:35] <der0b> did I actually help?
[08:35] <poetra> dmesg
[08:35] <davin> der0b: heheh, I just used dmesg and reconnected it and it just went through it
[08:36] <davin> der0b: hang on
[08:36] <der0b> so I actually gave good advice (fishing for acknowledgment here)
[08:36] <Muteki> To have a partition read by windows it has to be formatted in either fat16 or fat32 right? vfat doesn't work?
[08:36] <davin> now I need to mount it to accss it
[08:37] <der0b> correct
[08:37] <der0b> what fs is it?
[08:37] <davin> ext3
[08:37] <davin> thing is
[08:37] <der0b> simple enough to mount, do you know how?
[08:37] <Muteki> thanks der0b
[08:37] <davin> normally it mounts at /media/usbdisk
[08:37] <davin> the folder exists, though empty
[08:37] <wikijeff> Is it possible to get iTunes to run through wine??
[08:37] <Healot> vfat is FAT32
[08:37] <Dremth> i went to this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu    to try to see how to install xubuntu from a ubuntu cd, but the screenshots link to an osdir page that says the screenshots have been archived... what should i do?
[08:37] <davin> wikijeff: you made my day :)
[08:38] <ryctor> try amarok for yhr ipod
[08:38] <wikijeff> davin: care to make mine?
[08:38] <der0b> davin: just sudo mount /dev/<name> /media/usbdisk
[08:38] <paradizelost> Dremth: install ubuntu then do a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop\
[08:38] <Healot> !info gtkpod
[08:38] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.2-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 480 kB, installed size 1988 kB
[08:38] <davin> wikijeff: I think its not possible
[08:38] <Dremth> i cant install ubuntu
[08:38] <etla55> hi all, my 6.06 cd boots to 640x480 resolution. very hard to do the install with that. I can\t change resolution from system/preferences...
[08:38] <Healot> !info ryhthmbox
[08:38] <ubotu> Package ryhthmbox does not exist in any distro I know
[08:38] <Dremth> my computer only has 128 mb of ram
[08:38] <Dremth> and it freezes on a normal boot
[08:38] <diana> !info rhythmbox
[08:38] <wikijeff> davin: do they specifically design it so you can't?
[08:38] <ubotu> rhythmbox: music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 1759 kB, installed size 6332 kB
[08:38] <OrionUser> realizing this has got to be the 50th modem install problem on line tonight, any volunteers?
[08:38] <talon> HELLO??!?!?!?!?!
[08:38] <Healot> Dremth: get xubuntu
[08:39] <talon> how do you compile openoffice?
[08:39] <ryctor> ctrl alt +
[08:39] <Dremth> .......
[08:39] <Dremth> thats what im trying to do...
[08:39] <davin> wikijeff: funny thing was, itunes runs good on a mac, on windows its a resource hog, so I think if youd emulate it even worse..
[08:39] <ryctor> OO has a bimary pkg
[08:39] <smoked1> HA HA
[08:39] <der0b> talon: are you using ubuntu?  openoffice is installed
[08:39] <davin> der0b: yay its mounted, now I need to restore my backup at /media/usbdisk/backup/image
[08:39] <smoked1> Hello all
[08:39] <Dremth> but it says you can install it from a regular ubuntu cd... and it just so happens i have no cds i can burn to
[08:39] <Healot> OrionUser: dial-up modem (internal or external) or DSL modem with USB connector?
[08:39] <davin> der0b: dd if=/media/usbdisk/backup/image of=/dev/sda3 ?
[08:39] <talon> i wanna try 2.0.4.....but how?
[08:39] <ryctor> if laptop use the fn key
[08:39] <tortho> Anyone with a Sony Ericsson P990 in here... working on ubuntu? (synch and so on..)
[08:39] <ubuntu-novice> davin/wikijeff: what was the solution for mounting?
[08:40] <etla55> anyone... how to get out of 640x480 ??
[08:40] <davin> ubuntu: mount /dev/blabla /location/in/fstab
[08:40] <Healot> talon: download the official package, install it separately at a different location
[08:40] <davin> ubuntu-novice: * ^
[08:40] <trakz> tortho: I've got a Sony Ericsson T610 running over IR
[08:40] <der0b> davin: I haven't messed with dd yet, I suppose it all depends on how  you made the backup, sorry I can't help with that
[08:40] <Dremth> brb
[08:40] <ubuntu-novice> davin: thanks
[08:40] <OrionUser> If anyone can help on a modem problem, could you send email at protek_2000@yahoo.com?  I'm unfortunately short on time..
[08:40] <ashik> How to run CVS?
[08:41] <talon> yah....but i cant seen to install it with ./configure
[08:41] <tortho> trakz: i dont have ir:-( but thatks for reply
[08:41] <davin> der0b: okay, well i used if=/dev/sda3 of=/media/usbdisk/backup/image, and the guy from yesterday told me to reverse it if i wanted to restore, gonna try that now, hang on
[08:41] <diana> I can't get any videos to play with totem or mplayer, I think it's the libxv1 not sure if it's just me or all edgy users.
[08:41] <diana> Can anyone confirm this bug?
[08:41] <meathead> I run ubuntu at home, but can someone recommend a version of linux that I can run on my old 366mHz laptop?
[08:41] <der0b> talon: I would just wait until the ubuntu team releases the latest version..  when did 2.04 come out?
[08:41] <diana> meathead: damn small linux
[08:41] <PyroticShadow> meathead, DSL
[08:42] <peter_> I run centos on an old pentium2
[08:42] <tortho> diana, didn't you post in ubuntu+1 saying that you are running edgy?!?
[08:42] <diana> tortho: yes
[08:42] <talon> last week?
[08:42] <Muteki> If i format a 250 gb hdd in fat32 in one partition will windows have an issue finding it if its across a network?
[08:42] <ryctor> man samba
[08:43] <Caplain> heyall
[08:43] <OrionUser> Well, I can see this is one busy forum.  You all have a good night and thanks for those of you who know who are sharing with us who don't!
[08:43] <nalpha> guys please help me donkz... how to copy cd to cd in ubuntu using one cd-rw...?
[08:43] <der0b> talon: the openoffice site is still linking to 2.0.3
[08:43] <talon> whats a faster and safer file server nfs or samba?
[08:43] <TEN> etla55 I've gut the same problem even after removing all other Modes from /etc/X11/xorg.conf - one reason could be that no DCC detection of the monitor is possible during startup (e.g. because it is behind a KVM switch) - it tends to sort itself out after restarting X via Ctrl-Alt-Backspace but that's not a solution IMHO.
[08:43] <Caplain> im thinking of switching from windows xp professional to ubuntu linux
[08:43] <Healot> Muteki: you can format the whole disk with FAT32
[08:43] <ashik> Please help me running CVS
[08:43] <Caplain> advice?
[08:43] <TEN> s/gut/got of course
[08:43] <talon> go to the p2p downloads...
[08:43] <meathead> I'm running DSL on it now, the only problem with that is that most people use it as a bootable live cd and there isn't much you can do with it that isn't on the cd
[08:43] <Healot> the limit is 32GB i think
[08:43] <Muteki> :O
[08:44] <PyroticShadow> Caplain, Just do it, ;).
[08:44] <Caplain> i remember when 32GB was alot
[08:44] <Muteki> well thats just great
[08:44] <der0b> talon: it's calling 2.0.4 rc1 (which is a release candidate)
[08:44] <Caplain> well i want to...but im afraid
[08:44] <der0b> I would wait until it's stable
[08:44] <Muteki> thank you very much healot
[08:44] <Healot> s/can/can't
[08:44] <Muteki> (^_^)d
[08:44] <TEN> etla55 On the Live CD there should also be an F key to force a specific resolution
[08:44] <talon> yup...how do you install it?
[08:44] <Caplain> i use so many windows apps and games
[08:44] <ryctor> afraid?
[08:44] <der0b> is there some funtionality you need that's in that version?
[08:45] <Caplain> no more vice city or solitare! no more viruses either
[08:45] <ryctor> you can always dual boot or emulate windows
[08:45] <PyroticShadow> Caplain, you can play solitaire on Ubuntu :P
[08:45] <nalpha> guys i'm connect my ftp server using nautilus and save the password.. how to change the password because everytime i create new connection with the same ftp server nautilus directly input the old password.. i want to chagne it.. how?
[08:45] <PyroticShadow> Caplain, and some Windows games work better in Linux, than on Windows itself, through Wine, ;).
[08:45] <der0b> talon: I have no idea, I haven't compiled openoffice.  best of luck though
[08:45] <A-L-P-H-A> I'm using edgy, and I can't seem to open a terminal from gnome.  What should I do to debug?  I'm currently reinstalling gnome terminal, to see if that will help.
[08:45] <Muteki> whoa ok nvm i got a correction if its windows formatting then 32 is the limit otherwise forums say its good till 2 TB
[08:45] <Flannel> A-L-P-H-A: #ubuntu+1
[08:45] <Caplain> ahhh wine...it supports directx etc?
[08:45] <PyroticShadow> Caplain, which games do you normally play, on windows, I'll letcha know if you canp robably play them on Linux, as well.
[08:46] <A-L-P-H-A> Flannel: k
[08:46] <talon> its available in RPM version.....if i convert it.... it might break my system....
[08:46] <meathead> Caplain: cedega supports directx. wine doesn't really.
[08:46] <Caplain> PyroticShadow, vice city, postal 2, half life, unreal tournament
[08:46] <Lilandra> hi
[08:46] <Lilandra> is Xorg stuff just for graphics?
[08:46] <Caplain> cedega?
[08:47] <smoked1> I dont remember who told me to edit /etc/pmount.allow but when I did myh card redaer instantly worked after reboot. I didnt think that it would work but it did. Much thanks to this person
[08:47] <ryctor> stick with windows
[08:47] <der0b> it might indeed.  which is why I think it's best to wait for the final version.  if it's security related you can be sure the ubuntu team will package it
[08:47] <Lilandra> so if i had ubuntu and i wanted to unintall the desktop environment and only wanted text would that be ok?
[08:47] <smoked1> anyone remember who it was?
[08:47] <TEN> Recommendations for a Cisco-client tolerant IPSEC server app on Ubuntu?
[08:47] <PyroticShadow> UT2004, Plays in Linux, I'm pretty sure, Caplain I'm not sure of the others, though, most likely Half life, would be able to work, and Cedega works great, but, you have to pay
[08:47] <talon> can i use gnome 2.16 in dapper????anyone???
[08:47] <Flannel> talon: no
[08:47] <Caplain> Lilandra, thats how gentoo users go
[08:48] <Lilandra> go? i am confused
[08:48] <smoked1> if they have a paypal account I will send them what I can for the help
[08:48] <talon> why not....compiled from source?
[08:48] <meathead> Caplain: to be perfectly honest, DON'T GAME IN LINUX.
[08:48] <A-L-P-H-A> talon, you "can", but not as a package.
[08:48] <Lilandra> caplain?
[08:48] <A-L-P-H-A> talon, it's not backported.
[08:48] <talon> how?
[08:48] <talon> have u tried it?
[08:48] <A-L-P-H-A> talon: follow the gnome install instructions.
[08:48] <Caplain> pay?
[08:48] <Caplain> hmmmm
[08:48] <Caplain> whats linux good for then other than server apps?
[08:48] <smoked1> I will have to heep notes next time so that I can comensate people that are deserved
[08:48] <Lilandra> o dear
[08:48] <A-L-P-H-A> talon: I'm on edgy... so no.
[08:49] <PyroticShadow> meathead, gaming in linux, is almost better than gaming on windows, because the success of getting a game to work wonderfully in Linux, is enjoyable in itself, let alone kicking major arse, at Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, which is already native to linux, c'mon, that's worth the trouble!.
[08:49] <der0b> caplain: i use it for my every day desktop.
[08:49] <talon> i tried garnome...after everything was done....nothing happened....
[08:49] <rogue_boy> i made a guide for linux ubuntu and windows xp home for the acer aspire 5000 series
[08:49] <der0b> I don't game though
[08:49] <rogue_boy> http://www.notebookforums.com/post2390904.html#post2390904
[08:49] <PyroticShadow> Caplain, learning, knowledge, safety, and FUN!
[08:49] <rogue_boy> should i migrate it to ubuntu forums too?
[08:50] <Caplain> meathead, well is it possible? cuase i just told a guy i like that gaming is perfectly fun in linux, now im gonna look like afool
[08:50] <talon> any body here knows how to use garnome?
[08:51] <smoked1> I am a regular FreeBSD user and I have many servers but when I go to a FreeBSD channel for help I am insulted. I came here for help and I got suggest
[08:51] <smoked1> ed solutions
[08:51] <ryctor> i use freebsd
[08:51] <Dremth> well... thanks for all your help everyone. im gonna let this xubuntu iso download, look for a blank cd, and go to bed (X_X)
[08:51] <ryctor> what is teh prob?
[08:51] <Caplain> PyroticShadow, learning, knowledge, saftey, and FUN doesnt get you laid though...does it?
[08:51] <Dremth> c ya
[08:51] <trakz> smoked1: that's 'cause ubuntu people rawk!
[08:51] <sasuke> !offtopic
[08:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:52] <smoked1> trakz: I think they might
[08:52] <Caplain> damnit i want steak
[08:52] <sethk> smoked1, if you reverse that pmount thing, you'll find that it still mounts.
[08:52] <PyroticShadow> Caplain, True enough, Yes.
[08:52] <PyroticShadow> Caplain, but, nonetheless, offtopic talk, goes to #ubuntu-offtopic, please and thanks, :)
[08:52] <trakz> smoked1:I found that most other distros have a very pretentious (sic?) following...
[08:52] <smoked1> wow
[08:53] <smoked1> amazing
[08:53] <sasuke> does anybody have any problems with sound on ubuntu
[08:53] <sasuke> ?
[08:53] <PyroticShadow> sasuke, such as?
[08:53] <sasuke> in the start bar (where the time is) it has a speaker with a mute sign over it
[08:54] <smoked1> sethk: Are you the one that made the suggestion?
[08:54] <trakz> sasuke:can't your right click on it and un-mute it? :-)
[08:54] <Caplain> lol okay
[08:54] <ryctor> the thing is people using freebsd expect you to read, if you dont want to read and instead prefer to ask already answered questions in the fbsd handbook, you will get the well deserver rtfm...
[08:54] <Caplain> ill go to #wireless then, everything there is #distro-offtopic
[08:54] <Caplain> lol
[08:55] <wastrel> !rtfm
[08:55] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:55] <sasuke> trakz it says mute or open up volume control panel
[08:55] <sasuke> clicking on volume control panel gives me an error
[08:55] <smoked1> I just want to send a few bucks to the man that resovled my issue] \
[08:56] <trakz>  sasuke: what's the error?
[08:56] <diana> I can't watch videos with libxv1 for some reason. When I play any video(even the nelson mandela.ogg) I get black screen and the audio works fine. With mplayer I can do "mplayer -fs -vo x11 -zoom file" and that works, but I want my gf to be able to double click on movie files.
[08:56] <sasuke> no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[08:56] <diana> Anyone know what could be wrong and why movies don't play?(even oggs)
[08:56] <smoked1> It might only be like 10 bucks but it;s somethingt
[08:56] <trakz>  ubotu: for reference what do jfgi, stfu stand for?
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about for reference what do jfgi, stfu stand for? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <sasuke> !what is stfu
[08:57] <sasuke> shut the fuck up
[08:57] <sasuke> :P
[08:57] <wastrel> language
[08:57] <wastrel> just * google it and shut the * up :] 
[08:57] <trakz> LOL
[08:57] <sasuke> lol :P
[08:57] <smoked1> Ok
[08:58] <Enselic> Could someone say something with my name it in? I'm just going to test my notification settings.
[08:58] <wastrel> Enselic:  sorry, no
[08:58] <wastrel> oops
[08:58] <Enselic> Works great, thanks :)
[08:58] <smoked1> ] \---: You have a small penis
[08:59] <diana> DBO: any idea about libxv1?
[08:59] <smoked1> SORRY :9i
[09:00] <DBO> diana, are you running xgl or aiglx?
[09:00] <smoked1> I just thought that it was funny
[09:00] <diana> DBO: aiglx
[09:00] <DBO> diana, that might be the cause, try configuring mplayer (in its preferences) to us gl2 for its output
[09:00] <smoked1> It seems that funnt is not something that peeps do here
[09:01] <DBO> smoked1, we do that in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for support
[09:01] <diana> DBO: What would that look like? mplayer -fs -vo gl2 file?
[09:01] <smoked1> DBO, sorry about that
[09:01] <diana> DBO: What about totem mplayer video files?(for my gf who doesn't like cli)
[09:01] <smoked1> DBO, I understand
[09:02] <DBO> diana, no, just open gmplayer and right click on it and select preferences, you will see the setting in there
[09:02] <DBO> diana, totem should have a similar counterpart to make that setting
[09:03] <TEN> smoked1 Hi again & thanx for the hints on the Cisco VPN client. Couldn't find an option for MTU/packet size/fragmentation in there, and anyway none out of three non-Cisco servers seems to like its packets (i.e. probably broken, even tried a LAN cable connection). Any recommendations on a "Cisco-tolerant" server app to use on Ubuntu instead?
[09:03] <diana> DBO: Do you know where the totem setting is?
[09:03] <DBO> diana, no, sorry
[09:04] <trakz>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:05] <smoked1> TEN: I just installed VPNC and I will be trying that with my firewall tomarrow.
[09:05] <diana> DBO: Why doesn't libxv1 work? Because of aiglx? How can I turn off aiglx and try to use libxv1?
[09:05] <DBO> diana, are you a dapper use or an edgy user?
[09:05] <smoked1> TEN: If I come up with anything new I will let you know
[09:06] <diana> DBO: edgy
[09:06] <DBO> diana, just disable aiglx in your xorg.conf
[09:07] <smoked1> TEN: I just moved from Winbloze to Ubuntu last night so I still ha model t .what model number is your firewall?ve much to learn but I am an avid FreeBSD user with much experience so I am sure that we will figure this out. What
[09:08] <smoked1> model number is your firewall?
[09:09] <Ademan> what's the difference between the 686 kernel and the 686 kernel image? is one for like vmware or something?
[09:09] <diana> DBO: no, I turned off aiglx and no go on video still. DBO how can I get a list of packages I have installed on my system, so when I format with edgy, I can see what I need to get to make my system like itwas.
[09:10] <DBO> diana, did you restart X?
[09:10] <diana> DBO yes, I'm using irssi+screen
[09:10] <smoked1> I have to go. you all have a good night and thank you to those that spend time helping people like me.
[09:10] <smoked1> :)
[09:11] <DBO> diana, have you reinstalled libxv1?
[09:11] <diana> DBO: yep, I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall libxv1
[09:11] <DBO> diana, I would go ask in #ubuntu+1 also, since technically edgy is handled there
[09:11] <bobby> helpp
[09:11] <DBO> !helpme
[09:11] <bobby> anyone??
[09:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:11] <diana> DBO: then I did apt-get build-dep libxv1; apt-get source libxv1; cd libxv1*; ./configure; make; make install;
[09:12] <diana> DBO: both did not work.
[09:12] <diana> DBO: Everything on my edgy system works except video/libxv1. I think it's because I upgraded from dapper. no one in ubuntu+1 has these problems. I have /home on a separate partition so I'm going to do a format with the latest edgy build.
[09:13] <DBO> diana, im not sure, sorry
[09:13] <diana> DBO: Where can I download the latest edgy build?(something more new then knot2, are there nightlies?)
[09:13] <DBO> not really no
[09:13] <Burgundavia> diana: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:14] <TEN> smoked1 Firewall isn't actually mine but ancient InJoy stuff my "hosts" got from fx.dk ages ago, actually on OS/2 in the current location. Anyway it looks like I could tweak it to dump packets to a log file if need be - but now that an expert is facing the same problem I'd probably better just wait for a day... ;-) "TIA" then and good luck in figuring this out :-)
[09:14] <diana> DBO: How can I get a list of additional software I installed that didn't come with the dapper installer? So it's easier to get my system back to the way it was.
[09:14] <diana> thanks Burgundavia
[09:14] <DBO> diana, as far as I know, you cant...
[09:15] <diana> DBO: I can always dpkg -al &> packages.list; or cat /var/log/dpkg.log; but I was wondering if there was something more easy then that.
[09:15] <Burgundavia> diana: you can, just a sec
[09:15] <DBO> well you can obviously get a list of what you have installed
[09:15] <Burgundavia> there is a way to move your package list to another computer
[09:16] <raghu206> do some one know how to configure wine
[09:16] <diana> I can just dpkg -al &> list.txt; on my old system, then dpkg -al >> list.txt on my new system...
[09:16] <diana> then cat list.txt|awk '{ print $2 }'|uniq
[09:16] <diana> That'll work
[09:18] <diana> uniq -u
[09:18] <diana> rather
[09:18] <gyan> Hi Guys, I am new to Ubuntu
[09:18] <gyan> I am unable to log onto google or gmail
[09:18] <diana> !greet gyan
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about greet gyan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <gyan> lemme check that, thanks
[09:19] <SurfnKid> anyone here a network engineer
[09:19] <SurfnKid> msg me
[09:20] <diana> cat list.txt|awk '{ print $2 }'|uniq -c|xargs
[09:20] <EvilTechMonkey> does anyone know how to get the host name of an ubuntu server recognized by windows and the router?
[09:22] <EvilTechMonkey> are the forums down?
[09:24] <thehil> has anyone tried to enter a non-ASCII username in gdm to login? I suppose Linux /etc/passwd does not support non-ASCII usernames
[09:24] <thehil> EvilTechMonkey: Forums have been down and up
[09:25] <EvilTechMonkey> thehil... thanks
[09:28] <jrattner1> What device is eth0
[09:28] <jrattner1> its full address?
[09:28] <jrattner1> /dev/eth0
[09:28] <jrattner1> ?
[09:29] <waveline> hey does anyone one use the epic irc client
[09:32] <bobby> hw shud i disable the notification of joinin/leaving members??
[09:32] <Enselic> bobby: Settings -> Configure Notifications
[09:33] <waveline> q
[09:33] <bobby> ok thnx
[09:33] <bobby> thrs no notifications here, using xchat
[09:33] <bobby> @ enselic
[09:33] <fredl> I have dpkg --purge'd acroread-plugins and mozilla-acroread, removed ~/.mozilla and reinstalled those two packages. When I click on a PDF from my browser it opens up acroread in an external window. How do I make it display the PDF in the browser?
[09:34] <waveline> Please bare with my screen messages....trying use this...client, its all command line
[09:34] <Enselic> Ok, then my assumtion that you used Konversation was wrong :)
[09:34] <TEN> Having debianized and installed the current Sun JDK, how do I "officially" (i.e. via dpkg etc.) make the Java *plugin* known to Firefox?
[09:34] <bobby> yeah..
[09:35] <bobby> :(
[09:35] <bobby> wht to do ??
[09:35] <meathead> copy it to the plugins folder?
[09:35] <fredl> TEN - that's a good question. I would like to find out myself which plugins firefox *knows* about as well.
[09:35] <Flannel> !tell TEN about java
[09:36] <waveline> can someone message me directly so I may test something
[09:36] <fredl> can one broken plugin prevent firefox from loading the others in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins?
[09:36] <TEN> meathead Or just symlink it from there, sure (what's upsetting about this BTW?). I just thought there'd be a standard way via package management.
[09:36] <Flannel> TEN: sun-java5-plugin
[09:37] <fredl> dpkg: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so not found.
[09:37] <fredl> so I do have that file on my filesystem but it doesn't belong to any package Hmmm
[09:38] <Flannel> fredl: did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java ?
[09:39] <fredl> Flannel - no, I'm trying to find out why my acroread plugin doesn't work and therefore checking what's in the plugin directory.
[09:39] <fredl> Flannel, so I don't have a problem with the java plugin although it might be *causing* my problems.
[09:40] <waveline> can everyone see this
[09:41] <TEN> Flannel https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java is of course assuming the plugin to come in yet a different package, rather than as part of the JDK
[09:42] <Flannel> TEN: right.  and it tells you which package.
[09:43] <PeanutHorst> well that sucks
[09:44] <PeanutHorst> i just tried to start the Ubuntu disc on my pc - this is the config
[09:44] <jhasse> how can i turn of the ubuntu logo at linux startup?
[09:44] <fredl> I have dpkg --purge'd acroread-plugins and mozilla-acroread, removed ~/.mozilla and reinstalled those two packages. When I click on a PDF from my browser it opens up acroread in an external window. How do I make it display the PDF in the browser?
[09:45] <PeanutHorst> Pentium 200 MMX, 4GB HDD, 32MB RAM, ES1968 sound card, S3TRIO64V+ video card, 2 serial ports, one parrallel port. AT bus, PS/2 for mouse.
[09:45] <PeanutHorst> comes up with an error about acpi
[09:45] <PeanutHorst> oh and hi fildo, I live very close to you :)
[09:46] <waveline> Does anyone else here use a console client
[09:46] <fredl> PeanutHorst, acpi may be turned off in your BIOS.
[09:46] <drumline> what's the longest filename that could be used on the ext3 file system?   Is it any longer with Reiser?
[09:47] <PeanutHorst> fredl: wtf? i don't think my computer HAS acpi
[09:47] <PeanutHorst> can i pass custom parameters to the kernel?
[09:47] <fredl> PeanutHorst, so ignore the error or search google for noacpi
[09:47] <PeanutHorst> ideally, nousb and noacpi ?
[09:47] <fredl> yes
[09:47] <PeanutHorst> fredl: the error brings the thing to a halt
[09:48] <fredl> oh that's bad... I've seen the error but it never halted my system
[09:48] <fredl> PeanutHorst, you can boot from a CD, mount the filesystem and add the -noacpi to the GRUB config?
[09:49] <bobby123> helpp.....my ubuntu hangs of left fr more thn 2 hrs....wht shud i do??
[09:49] <bobby123> helpp.....my ubuntu hangs if left idle fr more thn 2 hrs....wht shud i do??
[09:49] <waveline> later everyone thx for being patient
[09:49] <Sgeo_> Hi all
[09:49] <Sgeo_> Why doesn't Ubuntu have Opera 9.01?
[09:50] <drumline> what's the longest file name I can have on a Linux box?
[09:50] <bobby123> anyone please tell how to remove these join/leave notifications in xchat
[09:50] <PeanutHorst> fredl: not possible
[09:50] <drumline> bobby123: get to scripting :)  ^on join and ^on part hooks
[09:50] <Flannel> !tell Sgeo_ about opera
[09:50] <castlerock_> ? ya'll
[09:50] <Lilandra> bobby123 can you get x-chat prefs?
[09:50] <Lilandra> o wow
[09:50] <albacker> why doesn't the dvd auto-play when i put it in the dvd-r drive ?
[09:51] <bobby123> yeah
[09:51] <Lilandra> is tehre a logging option on the left
[09:51] <castlerock_> what command will allow me to realtime monitor my usb port
[09:51] <Lilandra> i mean chatting
[09:51] <Lilandra> with three options beneath
[09:51] <bobby123> yeah
[09:51] <Lilandra> go to general
[09:51] <bobby123> ok
[09:51] <Lilandra> chatting > general
[09:51] <Lilandra> one of the check boxes to the right should be hide join/part
[09:51] <castlerock_> I want to be able to pull the usb key out and watch the device list change
[09:51] <Lilandra> and apply
[09:52] <castlerock_> any ideas
[09:52] <bobby123> :(
[09:52] <bobby123> nopes
[09:52] <Lilandra> bobby123? no :(
[09:52] <bobby123> no option like hidin
[09:52] <Lilandra> sorry :(
[09:52] <bobby123> :(
[09:52] <bobby123> :(((
[09:52] <Lilandra> none? really?
[09:52] <Lilandra> sigh
[09:52] <bobby123> yeah
[09:52] <bobby123> thnx fr tryin
[09:52] <Lilandra> well i'm not on linux atm so i'd have to check
[09:52] <Lilandra> any of the otehr options there?
[09:52] <bobby123> i haev
[09:52] <bobby123> have*
[09:53] <bobby123> announce away messages
[09:53] <bobby123> show away once
[09:53] <bobby123> automatiocally unmark away
[09:53] <bobby123> flash taskbar on...
[09:53] <bobby123> none of them are marked
[09:53] <Lilandra> ok. i'm sorry
[09:53] <Lilandra> :(
[09:53] <bobby123> its ok
[09:53] <bobby123> :) we atleast tried
[09:53] <bobby123> :))
[09:54] <Lilandra> :)
[09:54] <Flannel> !enter
[09:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:54] <fredl> Hmm that's funny... when I have acroread-plugins installed, firefox's about:plugins doesn't see any PDF plugin
[09:54] <fiendskull9> !mp3
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:54] <Sgeo_> The page doesn't answer my question
[09:55] <izm99> is anyone else having problems with ubuntuforums.org?
[09:55] <fredl> when I start firefox from the commandline and then go to about:plugins the problem is revealed....
[09:55] <Flannel> Sgeo_: is 9.1 new? when was it released?
[09:55] <fredl> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so [/usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so: undefined symbol: XtCalloc] 
[09:56] <Sgeo_> Flannel: 9.01
[09:57] <izm99> hmmm.. seems to work now.
[09:58] <Flannel> Sgeo_: doesn't opera offer their own repository?
[09:59] <RMorris84> im having trouble with a drive.. i bought a 3.5" usb hd case and put an old 40 gig in it for backups and such well i went to format it to a fat32, and it says unable to write disk label in gparted
[09:59] <fredl> hmm known bug with the PDF thingie apparently
[10:00] <Sgeo_> ty
[10:02] <RMorris84> anybody? wow this room is never inactive
[10:03] <fredl> cool, workaround applied and works now...
[10:03] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I just installed tight vnc server and things work fine for the most part however it doesn't seem to start at boot time...i checked /etc/init.d and there was nothing alluding to tight vnc or vnc...if i run /usr/bin/vncserver then all is well...what's the best way to enable tight vnc at boot?
[10:03] <izm99> RMorris84, have you tried removing all partitions, etc?
[10:04] <wthww> how do you make your xserver accept remote connections?
[10:04] <RMorris84> izm99: there is none its an old windows disk thats already a fat32 i just want to reformat it, its showing up on my desktop when i plug it up
[10:04] <izm99> wthww, I think it does by default, no?  code:  ssh -X user@host
[10:05] <izm99> or something like that.
[10:05] <JhonnyB> hi everybody
[10:05] <Gevaudan82> you need openssh-server if you are using ubuntu
[10:05] <wthww> ...
[10:05] <wthww> i dont want ssh
[10:05] <cerverx27> Hey, I'm considering moving to Ubuntu and would like to communicate with someone about making a swtich from a Windows Environment, to a Linux distribution.
[10:05] <fredl> yes you do.
[10:05] <wthww> i just want to use this xterminal i have
[10:05] <JhonnyB> can anyone tell me where can i get help for knoppix?
[10:06] <cerverx27> If anyone is interested in discussing this with me, please message me.
[10:06] <izm99> JhonnyB, try #knoppix ?
[10:06] <RMorris84> cerverx27: are u registered to get pms?
[10:07] <hockyhair> any ops alive?
[10:07] <DarkMageZ> RMorris84, cerverx27 is not registered according to the whois
[10:07] <DBO> hockyhair?
[10:07] <RMorris84> DarkMageZ: how do u register
[10:07] <JhonnyB> no one talks there
[10:08] <cerverx27> pms?
[10:08] <DarkMageZ> cerverx27, private messages. unregsitered users cannot normally message registered users on this network
[10:09] <nekostar> mmm
[10:09] <nekostar> i seem to have trouble porting under ubuntu for some reason.....
[10:09] <cerverx27> So to register for this network I type /register and then my name right?
[10:09] <nekostar> is there some default firewall ?
[10:09] <izm99> RMorris84, try first removing the existing partition (assuming there's no important data) and creating a new single fat32 partition.  I think windows created fat32 partitions are slightly different than linux formatted fat32 partitions, somehow.  I remember having label problems
[10:09] <DarkMageZ> cerverx27, /msg nickserv help
[10:10] <Gevaudan82> nekostar: you have iptables but it has no configuration
[10:10] <RMorris84> cerverx27: PMs sorry u have to be registered to send messages to people
[10:10] <cerverx27> I have noticed this.  I need to register.
[10:11] <RMorris84> izm99: theres no partitions to remove
[10:11] <JJman100> I have a question on setting up a USB hard drive. can anyone help?
[10:12] <JJman100> i have an mp3 player with 20gig hd which I can see in windows and ubuntu. however, with the usb drive, it I format in windows I can not access in linux, any ideas?
[10:13] <Gevaudan82> jjman100: ntfs or fat?
[10:13] <JJman100> ntfs
[10:13] <JhonnyB> i desprately need help
[10:13] <JJman100> windows xp
[10:13] <izm99> RMorris84, i believe you need a partition before you can format it, even if there's only one....  but not 100% sure on "terminology"
[10:14] <Gevaudan82> jjman:see the section concerning ntfs: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:14] <JJman100> yes, it is partitioned and effectivley can 'see' the drive in linux but 'permission denied' messages coem back when trying to access
[10:14] <JJman100> I can not change them
[10:14] <JhonnyB> anyone here can help with knoppix?
[10:15] <JJman100> thanks, will take a look
[10:15] <cerverx27> I just registered I think.
[10:16] <cerverx27> Do I need to re-login?
[10:18] <RMorris84> cerverx27: i duno i just registered myself
[10:19] <cerverx27> Hmm.  I think I just need to register a nickname but do you do so the same way you register a password.
[10:19] <hockyhair> does anyone use conky?
[10:20] <hockyhair> im having problems with the was it redraws after another window has been moved/removed from ontop of it
[10:20] <nekostar> hmm wierd Gevaudan82
[10:20] <nekostar> also i installed the sun java package but it doesnt seem to be working in firefox
[10:20] <nekostar> any clue how i could fix that ?
[10:21] <cerverx27> I can't figure out how to register. *sighs*
[10:22] <KarenCooke> hi - a recent update to nothing related has broken kaffeine and mythtv - has anybody experienced this ? i get 'polling....', 'polling....' over and over with kaffeine, after tuning
[10:22] <RMorris84> cerverx27: did u ever get a pm from me?
[10:23] <cerverx27> Rmorris84, I get a message from you but cannot send one to you back.
[10:24] <RMorris84> try /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <ur password>
[10:25] <cerverx27> Did so.
[10:25] <cerverx27> It still shows my nickname as unregistered.
[10:26] <Sgeo_> Opera's repo for the dynamic ver. doesn't work for me
[10:28] <cerverx27> oh sell
[10:28] <cerverx27> oh well
[10:28] <cerverx27> late.r
[10:28] <RMorris84> I still cant get my disk to format, its a usb 2.0 hd case with a 40 gig that when i try to reformat it says unable to write disk label
[10:28] <JhonnyB> guys i need to ask somethin related to kde in knopix
[10:29] <ryctor> how do Iinstall mplayer codecs?
[10:29] <JhonnyB> is thee a way to set the task bar on the top by default?
[10:29] <Lilandra> jhonnyb: we can try in #kubuntu
[10:29] <JhonnyB> ok lilandra
[10:29] <hockyhair> ryctor: check mplayers website
[10:30] <hockyhair> instructions are there
[10:32] <Dendeigh> hi all - anybody knows a well supported board with AM2-socket?
[10:33] <RMorris84> how can i get past this disk label issue when trying to reformat a 40gig usb hd
[10:34] <grumz> salut
[10:36] <TylerDurdener> is there a way to edit the "other" menu under Applications? alacarte won't let me edit it
[10:40] <xplthshark> hi
[10:41] <xplthshark> after a compiz update yestrday xgl/compiz doesn't work
[10:42] <xplthshark> i changed the start script to usr/bin/compiz-start like its sayed in some topics in the forum but no my screen freezes in black
[10:42] <Phuzion> !lamp
[10:42] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:43] <Phuzion> Umm
[10:43] <Phuzion> My apt can't find mysql-server-5.0
[10:43] <mooky> ok - I'm determined to get to the bottom of my xorg issue today. /quit
[10:43] <JoseStefan> !universe > Phuzion
[10:44] <padee> morning. is anyone using the qtek 8310 together with ubuntu?
[10:44] <Phuzion> Already have access to universe, dude
[10:45] <Phuzion> sources.list doesn't have any repositories commented out
[10:45] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: ok i know the problem, ubotu's response is wrong
[10:45] <godtvisken> opiates make you feel like clouds
[10:45] <Phuzion> JoseStefan"  You're just helping me with everything lately, eh?
[10:45] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: it's "mysql-server"
[10:45] <Phuzion> Thanks
[10:46] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: with what i can
[10:46] <Phuzion> !ubotu fix
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Phuzion> is there a way to correct ubotu?
[10:46] <Phuzion> Because he needs to be corrected about this, lol
[10:46] <JoseStefan> i will send the request
[10:46] <JoseStefan> i'm working on it
[10:46] <Phuzion> Alrigt
[10:47] <Phuzion> Alright*
[10:47] <nekostar> sooooooooooooo wierd
[10:47] <nekostar> im fully ported correctly in windows
[10:47] <nekostar> but in ubutu im stealthed
[10:48] <Phuzion> Thanks for everything dude
[10:48] <JoseStefan> np
[10:50] <mooky> !paste
[10:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:50] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: that's weird the mysql-server-5.0 package should exist too
[10:51] <Jowi> anyone's using rox-filer with the session manager and panel?
[10:51] <JoseStefan> Phuzion: and it's on 'main'
[10:52] <VoiceOvGod> Does anyone her have Compiz working on an AMD 64?
[10:54] <Jowi> I'm missing some applets in rox-filer. For example I do not have a clock or exit session. is the package in the repos incomplete?
[11:01] <mooky> ok all, here is the nice long paste containing debugging info. I've got a monitor that is capable of a higher resolution than Xorg is starting, the monitor is detected at a higher resolution, but xorg decides to downgrade it as it can't find a supported mode. I'm using the nvidia binary driver. This paste contains the xorg.conf, the error log containing the warnings about downgrading, the output of ddcprobe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23047 the monit
[11:03] <nekostar> mookid,
[11:03] <nekostar> er
[11:03] <nekostar> mooky,
[11:03] <mooky> yes
[11:03] <nekostar> did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:03] <mooky> yes
[11:03] <nekostar> and did you then set that for a higher resolution?
[11:03] <nekostar> because it appears that its set for only 1280
[11:03] <mooky> I set the optimal resolution for the monitor
[11:04] <Jowi> mooky: LCD or CRT?
[11:04] <nekostar>                 Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:04] <mooky> the monitor should run at 1280x1024
[11:04] <nekostar> what is it running at
[11:04] <mooky> Jowi: LCD
[11:04] <mooky> 1024x786
[11:04] <Jowi> mooky: comment out the HorizSync line in xorg.conf. set the VertRefresh to 60 and see if that help.
[11:05] <mooky> testing
[11:05] <Rico> Do you even need to specify horiz/vert values if DPMS is on?
[11:05] <mooky> oops
[11:05] <mooky> sorry
[11:05] <Jowi> mooky: sometimes the configurator for Xorg "helpfully" add a horizsync even though an LCD don't use it.
[11:05] <mooky> wrong box
[11:06] <nekostar> heh
[11:06] <smacky_wolf> How can I fool my system into thinking that a folder is actually my CD drive, cdrom0?
[11:06] <nekostar> someone show him screen
[11:06] <det> I have a computer with a wired internet connection and a wireless card unused. Can I configure the wireless card to be a gateway for my notebook to the wired internet connection?
[11:06] <nekostar> :P
[11:06] <Drako60> why can i mount my harddrives under the 2.6.15.7 kernel but not 1.6.17.13 with the error mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/sda1 busy
[11:06] <nekostar> smacky_wolf, thats fairly easy
[11:06] <cvt> how do i determine if a hd is ntfs?
[11:06] <nekostar> mount the folder to /media/cdrom0
[11:06] <smacky_wolf> nekostar, I tried mucking with fstab, but ti just whined about the folder not being a block device
[11:07] <lupine_85> cvt: try mounting it -t ntfs and see what happens :)
[11:07] <nekostar> cvt, gparted also works good
[11:07] <nekostar> :D
[11:07] <mooky> sorry about that
[11:07] <nekostar> smacky_wolf, yes i understand
[11:07] <NineTeen67Comet> hi all .. had an issue with rebooting/shutting down for a few weeks now .. My computer simply stops at "Will Reboot Now" or "Will Hault Now" .. but nothing more ..
[11:07] <mooky> bounced the wrong box
[11:07] <nekostar> ignore fstab part
[11:07] <mooky> ok - just going to test the updated config
[11:07] <mooky> that Jowi suggested
[11:08] <nekostar> smacky_wolf, what is the filesystem? et3 ?
[11:08] <nekostar> *ext3
[11:08] <smacky_wolf> ext3, yarr
[11:08] <nekostar> yeah ok
[11:08] <nekostar> sudo mount -t ext3 /some/folder /media/cdrom0
[11:08] <nekostar> try that
[11:08] <smacky_wolf> ahah <3
[11:08] <nekostar> <3
[11:09] <nekostar> i mounted a folder setup for dvd once to test lol
[11:09] <smacky_wolf> hr,m. It's not a block device.
[11:09] <nekostar> same error?
[11:09] <nekostar> one sec i had a solution..
[11:09] <nekostar> lemme mount something real quick.. gimme minute
[11:09] <mooky> Jowi: no difference
[11:09] <smacky_wolf> make the folder into an ISO and mount it loopback somehow?
[11:10] <mooky> still sets the mode ro 102x768
[11:10] <Jowi> mooky: either a) your monitor does not support it or b) your driver is not working as it should or c) if the Modes line in xorg.conf only contain "1280x1024" does it work then?
[11:11] <smacky_wolf> All I need to do is somehow mount disc 5 for HL2 to cdrom0
[11:11] <Jowi> for the selected depth of course
[11:11] <smacky_wolf> because my drive can't read it for some idiotic reason
[11:12] <Jowi> !resolutions
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolutions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <Jowi> !resolution
[11:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:12] <mooky> Jowi: monitor supports it - works in windows, and other distros with xorg 7/nvidia binary driver. Driver is x86_64 - so it could be not working as expected, but it shouldn't be. c.) modeline only 1280x1024 - xserver fails to start
[11:12] <mooky> Jowi: used the fix resolution wiki page
[11:12] <mooky> didn't really do much
[11:12] <mooky> it just explains how to run dpkg-reconfigure for x
[11:13] <Jowi> mooky: does the nvidia driver that ubuntu is shipped with work with that resolution?
[11:13] <mooky> when you say the nvidia driver thats shipped with ubuntu - do you mean the binary nvidia or the nv driver ?
[11:13] <cvt> what do i do if i don't see the third line on 2. Configuration here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[11:13] <cvt> ?//
[11:13] <Jowi> mooky: no idea, i don't have nvidia here. :) does it work with the vesa driver?
[11:14] <mooky> not tried vesa actually
[11:14] <mooky> and FYI: I'm using the nvidia binary driver shipped with ubuntu
[11:14] <Jowi> mooky: if vesa works at least we know where the prob lies
[11:14] <mooky> testing
[11:14] <mooky> good call
[11:15] <cvt> how do i "create a directory where to mount your ntfs"?
[11:15] <Healot> mkdir :0
[11:15] <Drako60> why can i mount my harddrives under the 2.6.15.7 kernel but not 1.6.17.13 with the error mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/sda1 busy
[11:15] <mooky> Jowi: bang on the money, vesa works, nvidia driver doesn't
[11:15] <Jowi> mooky: file a bug :)
[11:15] <Healot> with  sudo; prefix it before running mkdir
[11:16] <Jowi> !bug
[11:16] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <mooky> yup
[11:16] <mooky> Jowi: thanks,good call suggesting vesa
[11:16] <Jowi> np mooky
[11:17] <manmadha> can any one tell the links for good linux games....?
[11:17] <Healot> supertux?
[11:18] <Healot> !info supertux
[11:18] <ubotu> supertux: Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 484 kB
[11:18] <DarkMageZ> manmadha, you should look-up nexuiz & warsow
[11:18] <Jowi> !info neverputt
[11:18] <ubotu> Package neverputt does not exist in any distro I know
[11:18] <Rico> searching the games category of synaptic is also a good idea
[11:18] <Jowi> hupp?
[11:18] <DarkMageZ> manmadha, there is also ut2k4 @ quake4 available for linux
[11:18] <manmadha> DarkMageZ, can u give the links for me...?plz
[11:19] <Jowi> !info neverball
[11:19] <ubotu> neverball: 3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 468 kB
[11:19] <Shadowpillar> then there's wine and cedega, which will run windows games and apps
[11:19] <diego> hola
[11:19] <Shadowpillar> cedega is better for games as it specifically works for games, wine is great for apps and can play some games
[11:20] <langelot> hi !
[11:20] <DarkMageZ> manmadha, http://gaming.gwos.org (for general linux gaming stuff) www.warsow.net (for warsow) and nexuiz is available in the backports repository
[11:20] <diego> is there a way to see wmv with totem ?!
[11:20] <Jowi> Anyone's using rox-filer panel? I'm missing some applets in rox-filer. For example I do not have a clock or exit session. is the package in the repos incomplete?
[11:20] <langelot> I hav 2 gfx card one is nvidia and the other one ati, my main is the ati, how can I do to configure xorg and use the both card
[11:21] <manmadha> DarkMageZ, thank u.....
[11:21] <padee> quit Bye
[11:21] <Jowi> diego: wmv9 no. wmv7 yes.
[11:21] <langelot> diego :  install totem-xine
[11:21] <diego> thanks!
[11:21] <Jowi> !w32codecs
[11:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:21] <diego> i installed "w32codecs" but totem cant reproduce windows files
[11:22] <Jowi> diego: w32codecs is used if totem-xine is installed as langelot said
[11:22] <diego> :D
[11:23] <DarkMageZ> diego, try installing gstreamer0.10-pitfdll (it links gstreamer and w32codecs together)
[11:23] <diego> how can i install NTFS drivers with apt-get ?
[11:23] <goldfish> help with wine
[11:23] <ryctor> I use xine and the codecs from mplayer, just trll xine the path
[11:23] <Shadowpillar> there is pitfdll for gstreamer, but I dunno if ubuntu has pitfdll
[11:23] <ryctor> sorry, tell
[11:24] <goldfish> where does the c: drive hide
[11:24] <opexoc> Is there anyone who can help me with installation my mutlifunction printer?
[11:24] <diego> what is gestreamer ?
[11:24] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[11:24] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll: GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.1.1+cvs20060312-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 79 kB, installed size 260 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:24] <langelot> is smbdy can help with my grafic question ?
[11:25] <ryctor> xinerama
[11:25] <Jowi> DarkMageZ, Shadowpillar: interesting. never knew it existed
[11:25] <DarkMageZ> diego, ok. basics 101 for you :) totem can use 2 media playback engines. these are called gstreamer or xine. it decides which one by if you have totem-gstreamer or totem-xine installed
[11:25] <ryctor> man xorg
[11:25] <nalpha> guys help me why my ip listed in CBL (composite Blocking List)??? I'm not doing anything bad... there is a probability my computer used by people outhere to send spam email or etc??? please... help me i can't access my own website and can't join irc.dal.net....
[11:25] <diego> i love linux ! ! !
[11:25] <Rico> diego, re NTFS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:25] <langelot> tu can also use the all codec for mplayer , u download the archive all-20050412.tar
[11:25] <Shadowpillar> I cant get it because I'm on 64 bit
[11:26] <goldfish> installed messenger with wine but cant find it help
[11:26] <Shadowpillar> oh well, funny enough most windows codecs work under 64 bit
[11:26] <Shadowpillar> just not wmv7 or wmv9
[11:26] <ryctor> why not to use gaim?
[11:26] <Shadowpillar> but I rarely find any wmv9 vids
[11:26] <Shadowpillar> mostly just find wmv1 or wmv3
[11:26] <goldfish> just wanted to try some thing with wine
[11:27] <Rico> goldfish, you could `locate msnmsgr` :)
[11:27] <ryctor> try fish
[11:27] <goldfish> where does it install stuff
[11:27] <carelezz> i have a problem with bittrroent. When i open the torrent file,a message popup:cant get file info.I am sure the file was good.
[11:27] <diego> which is the command to restart gnome ?
[11:27] <carelezz> diego,/etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:28] <ryctor> ctl alt bspace will restart your xsession
[11:28] <Bobneu> Hi
[11:28] <Shadowpillar> goldfish: ls ~/.wine/drive_c
[11:28] <diego> thanks !
[11:28] <Bobneu> I'm looking for some help on postfix installation
[11:28] <Shadowpillar> diego: log out, then alt ctrl backspace.
[11:29] <Shadowpillar> but most of the time if you just need to restart gnome, logging out and logging back in will work
[11:29] <ryctor> no need to logout
[11:29] <goldfish> it show shows this MSOCACHE  Program Files  windows
[11:29] <Rico> yeah, go into Program Files
[11:29] <Bobneu> I've installed postfix as described in the ubuntu help section. I can telnet to port 25 and 993 (imaps)
[11:30] <Bobneu> My problem appear now. How can I create new email account !
[11:30] <mooky> Jowi: bug logged
[11:30] <mooky> thank you for your time
[11:30] <j2daosh> ok, i have a problem. i have both the KDE and Gnome desktops for ubuntu.... xgl/compiz works great on kde... not so well on gnome. how do i make it only start for one and not the other?
[11:30] <goldfish> cant find it
[11:30] <Jowi> cool mooky
[11:31] <j2daosh> anyone?
[11:31] <mempf> what is the package that allows mp3 previewing through nautilus?
[11:32] <manmadha> how to change system startup music.........?
[11:32] <KdLap> how do I add repositories in? and what are some good ones?
[11:32] <manmadha> how to change system startup music.........?
[11:32] <diego_cl> i dont understand.... i installed w32codecs, gstream and totem-xine, but i cant see xvid and divx videos
[11:33] <Shadowpillar> manmadha: system -> preferences -> sound
[11:33] <Shadowpillar> and dont repeat yourself
[11:33] <manmadha> okkk
[11:33] <goldfish> wheres the wine program files
[11:33] <manmadha> thank u
[11:33] <Shadowpillar> !divx
[11:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <Jowi> goldfish: "whereis wine"
[11:33] <goldfish> user/bin
[11:33] <nalpha> in ubuntu there is antivirus to check my sistem ??? ofcourse free?
[11:34] <goldfish> i want to know it install the windows apps
[11:34] <Rico> goldfish: you probably want to do something like 'wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/MSN\ Messenger/msnmsgr.exe'
[11:34] <nalpha> goldfish: use wine
[11:34] <Jowi> goldfish: the windows apps are in /home/user/.wine
[11:35] <goldfish> dont have them folders
[11:35] <resi> hello
[11:35] <Jhone334> hi i am new user to ubuntu can some 1 help me where i can learn it
[11:35] <kendals> Hi Jhone.
[11:35] <Jhone334> hi
[11:35] <kendals> What are you after? i.e. what info to learn?
[11:36] <Jhone334> i want to learn about files folder manupilation
[11:36] <Rico> goldfish: what is the output of 'ls ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files' ?
[11:36] <goldfish> no files found
[11:36] <Jhone334> administration n everything
[11:36] <Rico> oh right. wine installs are sometimes a bit dodgy.
[11:36] <Bobneu> Can any1 explain me how to create email account in PostFix ????
[11:37] <Jhone334> can any1 help
[11:37] <mfi> Jhone334: You could order Ubuntu book
[11:37] <Jhone334> from where
[11:37] <Jhone334> any downlading site
[11:37] <goldfish> Common Files          Microsoft.NET            Microsoft Works
[11:37] <goldfish> Internet Explorer     Microsoft Office         Outlook Express
[11:37] <goldfish> Microsoft ActiveSync  Microsoft Visual Studio
[11:37] <Jhone334> 4 the book
[11:37] <mfi> http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1
[11:37] <mfi> There
[11:37] <KdLap> anyone reccomend some good repositories?
[11:37] <Jhone334> kk
[11:37] <Subhuman> Bobneu, all the user accounts have email, you want an email acccount, create a new user.
[11:37] <Bonez56_> KdLap: for what?
[11:37] <Jhone334> thanks
[11:37] <Rico> goldfish: turns out, installing msn on wine is very difficult. are you *sure* you can't use gaim?
[11:38] <mfi> Welcome
[11:38] <mooky> what about amsn ?
[11:38] <rambo3> you could install msn and ie on old wine easy
[11:38] <mooky> that worksjust as good
[11:38] <KdLap> just newer ones than the ubuntu ones
[11:38] <patrick_> hi
[11:38] <Bonez56_> KdLap: ???
[11:38] <Bobneu> SubHuman : ok thx. just another question. How shall I configure my "outlook" client to connect to smtp with sasl ?
[11:38] <Vegeta> Why is it that I can't make the operator "^" in Maple? I could do that in Windows, but now it just sets the 1. sign after pressing the operator (which is not shown) to uppercase. Even when you press "Shift+" and the space it doesn't show it. Why?
[11:38] <Jhone334> can i get these book download from some where free
[11:38] <Jhone334> ???
[11:38] <DarkMageZ> KdLap, seveas has a nice repository. you can find out more about it by searching his name on the ubuntu wiki
[11:39] <Seveas> or by just typing !seveas in here
[11:39] <KurtKraut> Is it possible to prelink a single app (like OO) instead of the whole system using the 'prelink' package ?
[11:39] <goldfish> the program folder must be somewhere as it went through installing ie6 and messenger ok just cant find where it has put them
[11:39] <rambo3> !easysource > KdLap
[11:39] <Subhuman> Bobneu, sorry no idea, I don't know alot about postfix and such, jus how to use it really.
[11:39] <Bonez56_> !easysource > Bonez56_
[11:39] <Rico> goldfish: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=127
[11:39] <Subhuman> goldfish, there under program files /msn messenger in windows
[11:39] <Subhuman> goldfish, you did run "winecfg" first yes?
[11:40] <Subhuman> to create a fake C: and everything?
[11:40] <Jhone334> and 1 thing
[11:40] <Rico> Subhuman: he has a .wine/drive_c
[11:40] <Jhone334> do i get defualt support to play mp3,mpegs
[11:40] <Jhone334> in ubuntu
[11:40] <Jhone334> i didnt get them at fedora core
[11:41] <DarkMageZ> Jhone334, unfortuantly not, but support is easy to add :)
[11:41] <Subhuman> Jhone334, no but its easy to add.
[11:41] <Bobneu> JHone334 : no you don't but there is very nice tutorial in the help section of ubuntu
[11:41] <goldfish> yes i have run wine config
[11:41] <DarkMageZ> !tell Jhone334 about restrictedformats
[11:41] <Subhuman> Jhone334, i suggest googling "easyubuntu" and using that, it makes it a piece of cake.
[11:41] <Jhone334> can u tell me about the tutorial
[11:42] <rambo3> Jhone334 did you get pm from ubotu
[11:42] <Bobneu> go to the ubuntu website and do some search. I don't know the link by heart but I've found it and I'm just using ubuntu for 1 month
[11:44] <resi> how can i give the permission to a normal user to commit shutdown?
[11:44] <resi> i changed the /etc/sudoers but nothing
[11:45] <Healot> how you wrote the changes?
[11:45] <rambo3> i think they still need to use sudo shutdown but without password
[11:45] <resi> i don't want to give a pass every time i want to commint shutdown
[11:45] <resi> resi localhost=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown
[11:45] <resi> my /etc/sudoers line
[11:46] <rambo3> alias shutdown="sudo shutdown"
[11:46] <Rico> agh, amsn has horrible anti-aliased fonts that don't match any other font on the system - is there any way to fix this?
[11:47] <chamo> hello
[11:47] <chamo> how can I install Gnome 2.16 on my Ubuntu Dapper Drake release properly ?
[11:47] <Rico> perhaps switching to the latest cvs?
[11:47] <Fuzz> how do i share my printer with a windows pc!?
[11:47] <KurtKraut> chalcedony, in theory, yes. But it would'nt be easy or automatically managed.
[11:47] <resi>  alias shutdown="sudo shutdown"
[11:48] <resi> shutdown: you must be root to do that!
[11:48] <KurtKraut> chamo, in theory, yes. But it would'nt be easy or automatically managed.
[11:48] <Fuzz> sudo shutdown now
[11:48] <kendals> Sorry, went AWOL for a bit.
[11:48] <KurtKraut> chamo, but Edgy will be released in 26 october and it will come with the gnome 2.16
[11:48] <rambo3> apt-get install gnome=2.16
[11:48] <justin_> What is the default libraries path for Ubuntu?
[11:48] <kendals> (Can't wait for Edgy!)
[11:48] <Rico> rambo3: is that likely to break anything?
[11:49] <rambo3> yeah
[11:49] <rambo3> alot
[11:49] <kendals> I think it's "/usr /lib" justin
[11:49] <Fuzz> how do i share a printer with a windows pc!?
[11:49] <kendals> without spaces.
[11:49] <chamo> no version 2.16 in repos
[11:49] <Fuzz> anyone?
[11:49] <chamo> cant wait for edgy either
[11:49] <justin_> kendals: Alright, that is what I thought just wanted to make sure before I had to undo a lot of copying ;D
[11:49] <kendals> np :)
[11:49] <kendals> I have a question -posted on forums, but no answer unfortunately...here it is:
[11:50] <mempf> im running gnome 2.16
[11:50] <KurtKraut> chamo, next 13th will be released another preview CD of Edgy. You may download it an run as livecd just to check how things will be.
[11:50] <mempf> but edgy as well
[11:50] <kendals> If I update something in the menu (i.e. via alacarte menu editor) by adding a program, it doesn't refresh or update the menu.
[11:50] <kendals> And the item doesn't appear...
[11:50] <kendals> Any ideas? I tried the gnome-panel kill cmd in terminal to no avail.
[11:51] <goldfish> any more ideas
[11:51] <chamo> KurtKraut, maybe I'll wait. Why is it so tricky to update Gnome ?
[11:52] <mempf> kendals: its a premissions problem
[11:52] <mempf> i used to know how to fix that
[11:52] <rambo3> resi add to sudoers : resi ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/halt,/sbin/reboot,/sbin/shutdown
[11:53] <kendals> haha any luck recalling that one, mempf?
[11:53] <rambo3> and maby you need to reboot
[11:53] <Bobneu> where is defined the document root in apache2 ?
[11:53] <mempf> il try
[11:53] <mempf> hold on
[11:53] <kendals> thanks mate :) don't stress if you can't.
[11:53] <resi> resi@resi:~$ halt
[11:53] <resi> halt: must be superuser.
[11:53] <resi> what do i do wrong?
[11:54] <Jukru> resi: sudo halt
[11:54] <mempf> chown everything in your home folder to myuser.mygroup
[11:54] <JosefK> anyone running Ubuntu on a D620?
[11:54] <resi> aa
[11:54] <Bobneu> you mean a Dell Latitude D620 ?
[11:54] <resi> sorry
[11:54] <resi> :)
[11:55] <rambo3> resi add another alias
[11:56] <cvt> what does it mean to "locate the line of your NTFS partition."?
[11:56] <kendals> Any idea how to get the notification panel area to show ALL the stuff it's meant to have running (i.e. checkgmail, network manager applet) when you do a gnome-panel kill cmd? The cmd refreshes only SOME of the apps running (i.e. weather), but not others (i.e. checkgmail)...
[11:57] <bobby123> whr to join fr MOTU??
[11:57] <bobby123> need help
[11:57] <CromagDK> !fr
[11:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:57] <mp_> Hi! which player can I use to listen to podcasts?
[11:57] <diego_cl> exit
[11:58] <rambo3> cvt that wuestion needs more info
[11:58] <nalpha> who already use avg antivirus for linux in your ubuntu?
[11:58] <bobby123> how to join MOTU fr development?? help
[11:58] <VoiceOvGod> anyone here know about compiz?
[11:58] <bobby123> how to join MOTU fr development?? help
[11:58] <bobby123> how to join MOTU fr development?? help
[11:58] <bobby123> how to join MOTU fr development?? help
[11:58] <bobby123> how to join MOTU fr development?? help
[11:58] <rambo3> !smap
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <cvt> rambo3,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[11:59] <bobby123> !MOTU
[11:59] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:59] <mempf> VoiceOvGod: i know some stuff about compiuz
[11:59] <VoiceOvGod> mempf, may I pm you for some help?
[11:59] <mempf> sure
[11:59] <mempf> il try my best
[12:00] <rambo3> cvt they are talking about /etc/fstab entry for ntfs
[12:00] <cvt> rambo3,  i don't know how to locate that in the file
[12:01] <rambo3> cvt in terminal : gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:01] <cvt> i got that far
[12:01] <cvt> now how do i "locate the line of your ntfs partition"?
[12:02] <rambo3> !fstab
[12:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[12:02] <Bobneu> Any1 knwo how to configure "outlook" client to connect to smtp with sasl ?
[12:03] <reon> Will Linux install to a extended partition, how about XP. I know BSD won't. Need to wipe my HD clean and start over. XP might even become a VM
[12:03] <nalpha> !avg
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <lupine_85> no it doesn't. that's mtab :D
[12:04] <cvt> i don't want to learn why fstab is useful; i just want to copy files to an external hd
[12:05] <kendals> Hey mp_, you'll find Amarok can do podcasts.
[12:05] <fzn>  i want to use pysbnc.Which pysbnc company is the best? which one do you suggest?
[12:05] <CromagDK> !ntfs
[12:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:05] <CromagDK> !fuse
[12:05] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:06] <mempf> VoiceOvGod, goign to pm me?
[12:06] <VoiceOvGod> Im trying...
[12:06] <lupine_85> cvt: in that case, just mount it (sudo mount -t vfat /dev/<devicefile> /mnt)... assuming it's a vfat (fat32) partition. note that you'll need to copy to it as root
[12:06] <mempf> is your nick registered?
[12:07] <VoiceOvGod> no, its not.
[12:07] <mempf> i believe it needs to be to send pm's
[12:07] <cvt> lupine_85,  it's ntfs
[12:07] <mempf> can anyone confirm?
[12:07] <cvt> yes
[12:07] <cvt> true
[12:07] <VoiceOvGod> working on registering it now.
[12:07] <CromagDK> mempf: yea
[12:08] <VoiceOvGod> rrr. won't let me register for 20 minutes
[12:09] <VoiceOvGod> I feel like a pebcak
[12:09] <VoiceOvGod> :)
[12:09] <mempf> ive got an msn addrss
[12:09] <VoiceOvGod> do you got AIM?
[12:09] <VoiceOvGod> i dont got msn at all.
[12:10] <mempf> hold on
[12:10] <VoiceOvGod> or yahoo?
[12:11] <dregan> hi, I have been trying to get spamassassin to work - I get a series of errors: " creating default_prefs: /nonexistent/.spamassassin/user_prefs" - seems to be a permissions thingy.
[12:11] <dregan> 	<dregan>	spamassassin unix - n n - - pipe user=nobody argv=/usr/bin/spamc -f -e /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}
[12:11] <dregan> 	<dregan>	Can any one please adivse on correct systax - I am having some trouble finding an answer?
[12:12] <mempf> ive got aim
[12:12] <mempf> screenname jancill
[12:13] <erickm> can someone try to visit 192.168.0.1:84 ? I am trying to set up a small web server on my machine and am trying to see if people can access it outside my network? I would really appreciate it
[12:14] <someone> thats an internal ip address
[12:14] <erickm> oops, sorry. I meant 192.168.0.105:84
[12:15] <KurtKraut> erickm, IPs strating with 192.168 are only accessible and visible to local networks.
[12:15] <KurtKraut> erickm, *starting
[12:15] <someone> try whatismyip.com
[12:15] <AbortD> /say $ip
[12:15] <AbortD> :/
[12:15] <erickm> thanks a lot. then I guess that would make it 67.23.32.16:84 :D
[12:16] <KurtKraut> erickm, Apache has recently been set up on my server so expect something soon.. Erick-
[12:16] <erickm> awesome! thanks a lot for that
[12:17] <KurtKraut> erickm, use this service for future tests like this: http://centralops.net/asp/samples/AspTcpQuery.asp
[12:17] <cerberus> When downloading packages using apt-get, where are the packages saved to by default?
[12:17] <KurtKraut> cerberus, /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:17] <erickm> thats great thanks, this is my first time setting it up and I was having trouble all day. it must have been my router settings. well that and my isp blocked port 80
[12:18] <cerberus> KurtKraut, thanks
[12:18] <mp_> thanks kendals
[12:18] <rambo3> blocked port 80 , you live in china ?
[12:19] <KurtKraut> rambo3, many ISPs are doing it worldwide
[12:19] <KurtKraut> rambo3, even in US
[12:19] <KurtKraut> rambo3, here in Brazil they forbiden you to run any kind of service, even ssh, in your connection by contract.
[12:20] <MetaMorfoziS> which is faster gnome or kde?
[12:21] <rambo3> lol
[12:21] <KurtKraut> MetaMorfoziS, if you're concerned with performance, may be booth are not adequate for you
[12:21] <erickm> no I am in the us
[12:21] <Ge2X> hey can some1 help me ie just installed ubuntu and now im trying to install nvidia drivers and when i type sh /home/ge2x/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8774-pkg1.run it tells me nvidia-installer must be run as root
[12:21] <erickm> using adelphia which is now time warner cable
[12:21] <KurtKraut> MetaMorfoziS, how much RAM do you have ?
[12:22] <Ge2X> how can i become the root user?
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm just curious, and i want't to speed up my kde:)
[12:22] <KurtKraut> Ge2X, just type sudo before the wanted command
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> i have 256
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> -92 for video
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> in this notebook
[12:22] <KurtKraut> MeGaQuArK_, hmmm
[12:22] <JosefK> ouch MetaMorfoziS :/
[12:22] <KurtKraut> oops
[12:22] <TEN> Ge2X sudo -s -H    if ~permanently is what you mean. HTH
[12:22] <MetaMorfoziS> so it's not too much... if ic alculate with a 70-100mb firefox:D
[12:22] <KurtKraut> MetaMorfoziS, hmmm... have you tried XFCE ?
[12:23] <MetaMorfoziS> anyways i don'T want to change from kde to gnome:)
[12:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i'M asked this in this and  #kubuntu room... for test:D
[12:24] <MetaMorfoziS> so anyways some idea to speedup the kubuntu
[12:24] <Ge2X> hey now it wants binutils to be installed
[12:24] <Ge2X> where can i get them?
[12:24] <Rico> Ge2X: out of interest why aren't you installing the nvidia-glx package?
[12:24] <Ge2X> Rico: cause i dont where to get it:D i just installed ubuntu 20 minutes ago
[12:25] <Rico> oh right
[12:25] <Ge2X> why is it better?
[12:25] <Rico> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:25] <Rico> because, uhm, it doesn't require binutils :)
[12:25] <TEN> Ge2X *You* don't need to know, "apt-cache search binutils" does ;-)
[12:26] <Ge2X> thnx Rico and TEN
[12:26] <TEN> Or the Synaptics Package Manager which is basically the same "on steroids" ;-)
[12:27] <Skygge> question, is it possible to start GUI programs in the background (that is, not in the terminal interface) when SSH'ing to my computer?
[12:27] <Skygge> eg, ssh to computer, want to start azureus up, to seed or whatever.
[12:27] <Skygge> because when I try I get gui problems.
[12:28] <Skygge> but I just want to start the program.
[12:28] <Rico> i guess running 'azureus &' should work.
[12:28] <Skygge> with the ampersand at the end? what does that do?
[12:28] <Rico> runs processes in the background
[12:28] <Skygge> sweet, thanks Rico
[12:29] <Rico> you can try it now - open gnome-terminal, type it, and you'll notice azureus launches but you can still use the terminal.
[12:29] <Skygge> ohh... so for local commands too, of course. I've always hated how if I type gedit or something, i lose that terminal. great tip
[12:30] <donald_> how do you read other drives (windows) from ubuntu
[12:30] <juan_> join #ubuntu-es
[12:30] <juan_> join #ubuntu-es
[12:31] <CheekyBoinc>  /join !
[12:31] <juan_> jajaja
[12:31] <CheekyBoinc> lol ?
[12:31] <someone> haha
[12:33] <peter_> hi all
[12:34] <peter_> can some one tell me how i can play dvds and film clips from off the net again after installing ubuntu ?
[12:34] <Bobneu> I need some help to configure Bind9. can some1 help me ?
[12:34] <Skygge> donald_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:34] <gourdin> =)
[12:35] <Skygge> peter_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:35] <peter_> ty
[12:37] <Azimov> ca someone help me, i have a sound problem, audio applications such as Amarok play sound fine but applications such as ZSNES refuse to, i think its from a new update
[12:39] <Ackeubu_> hey whats up with the full distro upgrade?
[12:40] <Ackeubu_> btw i love the 'new' power manager.. :)
[12:45] <Vegeta> I get the following error when I try to pdflatex: "LaTeX Error: File `maplestd2e.sty' not found." But I do have maplestd2e.sty , how can I add this package to LaTeX?
[12:46] <kutan> Can anyone help me?
[12:46] <donald_> thank you Skygge
[12:48] <kutan> what does "You do not have libc header files installed on your system." mean?
[12:49] <CheekyBoinc> Install libc dev Files :)
[12:49] <kutan> "Please install your distribution's libc development pack."
[12:49] <stefg> this means that you have to install build-essential (which libc6-dev is dependant on)
[12:50] <stefg> !build
[12:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:51] <kutan> mmkay brb
[12:53] <lawcox> help
[12:54] <SV452> hay all
[12:54] <SV452> 8-)
[12:54] <kutan> Now after installing build-essential it says, "Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel."
[12:54] <SV452> question - is there a deb package for gtk+ 2.10.3
[12:55] <kingpanga> Helps PLS !!!!!!!
[12:55] <kingpanga> i want 2 get time of an entry in "bash history"
[12:56] <stefg> !info kernel-source
[12:56] <ubotu> Package kernel-source does not exist in any distro I know
[12:57] <stefg> !info linux-source
[12:57] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.24 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:57] <stefg> kutan: sudo apt-get install linux-source :-)
[12:58] <kutan> thanks
[12:58] <CosmoDad> anyone using nbd-client? installed it but the .deb doesn't seem to contain the binary client :(
[12:58] <stefg> kutan: but this will only download the tarball... you will have to unpack it in /usr/src
[12:59] <kutan> Hmmm
[12:59] <SV452> anybody mind looking at a config.log for gtk+ - get errors when doing the make part: make[4] : *** [gtk-query-immodules-2.0]  Error 1
[01:00] <kutan> stefg, how uh... do I unpack something in the console?
[01:01] <stefg> man bzip2
[01:04] <kutan> I unpacked it but it's still saying the same thing
[01:04] <kutan> "bunzip2 'filename'" is the right command.. right?
[01:04] <SV452> hmmm
[01:05] <mp_> Hi!. Appearently I need a "demux" plugin for amarok.. Anybody who knows how to get that?
[01:05] <stefg> kutan: set a symlink /usr/src/linux pointing to /usr/src/linux-2.6.15...blabla
[01:05] <kutan> ...uh
[01:05] <kutan> What? o_o
[01:06] <SV452> gtk+ deb package anybody? - this whole comiling from source is so not working for me ...
[01:06] <mof> Hi is anyone else suddenly having problems with xgl after updating?
[01:06] <stefg> kutan: what are you trying to achieve?
[01:06] <kutan> I'm kinda new to using you know.. linux and consoles and all that stuff so I have no idea what you're talking about stefg
[01:06] <DarkMageZ> mof, please see #ubuntu-xgl
[01:06] <CromagDK> heard many having problems with XGL in generel hehe
[01:06] <kutan> I'm trying to install drivers for my video card
[01:07] <stefg> kutan: what video-card?
[01:07] <mof> lol ok thanks.
[01:07] <kutan> nvidia geforce etc.
[01:07] <SV452> nvidia gforce ??
[01:07] <juan> i have aspell installed with english language pack and it works when i use it on a file but when i use aspellfox (basically a scrpit that calls it) it used to work but now calims i dont have any dictonaries. any ideas?
[01:07] <SV452> i have a n gforce
[01:07] <Rico> what is it with people and needlessly compiling their nvidia drivers from source
[01:07] <stefg> kutan: forget about compiling it yourself... ubuntu-devs have done that for you already
[01:08] <SV452> and ubuntu is working perfectly
[01:08] <Rico> well, parts of it from source :)
[01:08] <SV452> didn't need to redo my nvidia stuffs
[01:08] <Rico> i always had trouble
[01:08] <Rico> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:08] <kutan> Well this is what it says before it tries to compile.. whatever
[01:08] <SV452> i on the other hand is having issues with gtk+ !!
[01:08] <DarkMageZ> Rico, it's because they don't understand the ubuntu way of doing things, they are generally ex-windows users :P
[01:09] <stefg> kutan: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ... that's all you need
[01:09] <kutan> "No matching precompiled kernel interface was found on the NVIDIA FTP site; this means that the installer will need to compile a kernel interface for your kernel."
[01:09] <Rico> DarkMageZ: it would be ok, except compiling the drivers is really not a good start for ubuntu newbies
[01:09] <SV452> wow - nice one stefg
[01:09] <stefg> kutan: stop that BS
[01:09] <kutan> ..k
[01:10] <mookid> what's better openoffice word or abi word?
[01:10] <feet> hi. i need to run some GTK 1 apps. but the fonts for the interface are enormous. how do i change this? kthx
[01:10] <tuxtux> ciao
[01:10] <SV452> now anyone have any words of wisdom where i can find the deb package for GTK+
[01:10] <mof> mookid: whats better vi or emacs?
[01:10] <alsau> hi
[01:10] <DarkMageZ> Rico, exactly, that's why we push the ubuntu package method 
[01:11] <Rico> that unicode smiley is so awesome
[01:11] <Rico> mookid: abiword is faster to start up and has support for most things... openoffice has almost 100% word compatibility but is the emacs of word processors
[01:11] <Rico> in fact mof summed it up pretty well
[01:12] <mookid> ok so it's worth hacing both basically
[01:12] <mookid> having*
[01:13] <feet> OpenOffice = Microsoft Word. Abiword = Wordpad. comparison >_>
[01:13] <mookid> what's the difference between the abiword and the abiword-gnome packages?
[01:13] <opexoc> What is a purpose locating in /etc/inittab commands which are to be executed when for example system go to 2 level, if we can force the system to do this thanks to /etc/rc*.d directories... ?
[01:14] <fanta> hi all
[01:14] <erUSUL> SV452:  apt-cache search libgtk
[01:14] <kutan> uhhh stefg, that didn't work.
[01:14] <juan> abiwords abit more than wordpad, you can do most stuff you need from a word prosesor
[01:14] <fanta> german user here ?
[01:14] <SV452> libgtk? - in other words gtk+ ?
[01:14] <stefg> kutan: i got disconnected... what didn't work?
[01:14] <erUSUL> !de
[01:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:14] <kutan> hold on let me start x so I can actually copy and paste
[01:15] <stefg> kutan: you'd need sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to make the change have effect
[01:15] <CosmoDad> anyone using nbd-client with breezy? It looks like there's missing a lot of stuff in the .deb
[01:15] <Rico> SV452: libgtk1.2 ?
[01:16] <SV452> i am wanting gtk+ 2.10.3
[01:16] <SV452> i tried compiling from source but run into an error when doing make
[01:16] <kutan_> stefg, what was the command you wanted me to use?
[01:17] <stefg> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:17] <erUSUL> SV452: dapper comes with 2.8. What are you trying to compile?
[01:17] <Vegeta> Where can I place a new LaTeX package (sty file) so LaTeX/TeX automatically finds it when I for example run pdflatex?
[01:17] <kutan_> "sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found"
[01:18] <feet> kdm? xdm?
[01:18] <SV452> it does ??? trying to compile gtk+-2.10.3
[01:18] <SV452> so i can compile devilspie
[01:18] <stefg> kutan_: huh? you have ubuntu installed? or did you do a server install?
[01:19] <kutan_> uh.. I have kubuntu installed.
[01:19] <feet> kdm then
[01:19] <feet> not gdm
[01:19] <stefg> kutan_: oh, i c... make it kdm instaed of gdm
[01:20] <kutan_> ...What'd that do?
[01:20] <erUSUL> SV452: devilspie is on the repos 'sudo apt-get install devilspie'
[01:20] <xukun> anybody knows a good newsreader client with NZB support?
[01:20] <erUSUL> !info devilspie
[01:20] <ubotu> devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 124 kB
[01:20] <feet> will restart the log in manager
[01:20] <kutan_> Not sure what that means in terms of the whole driver installation process.
[01:21] <stefg> kutan_: JUST DO IT AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER :-)
[01:21] <kutan_> I did it
[01:21] <SV452> thanx erUSUL
[01:21] <stefg> oops... hit caps-lock by accident
[01:21] <feet> lol
[01:22] <xukun> anybody please?
[01:22] <SV452> ok - how come i can't find it in synaptic ?
[01:22] <SV452> what's diff between nautilus and metacity?
[01:23] <Rico> metacity is the windowing manager
[01:23] <Rico> nautilus is the file explorer
[01:23] <SV452> ah - i see
[01:23] <erUSUL> !repos > SV452
[01:23] <kutan_> soooo what do I do now?
[01:23] <erUSUL> !repos
[01:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:23] <erUSUL> !easysource > SV452
[01:23] <stefg> kutan_: are you in X now?
[01:24] <kutan_> Yeah
[01:24] <stefg> kutan_: so it's working, i think
[01:25] <stefg> get a terminal and type : glxinfo | grep direct
[01:25] <kutan_> direct rendering: No
[01:25] <kutan_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:25] <erUSUL> SV452: read the pm and links ubotu send you as how to enable aditional repositories of software... devilspie is in universe
[01:25] <erUSUL> !nvidia
[01:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:25] <stefg> kutan_: Oh, sudo nvidia-glx-config gave you an error?
[01:26] <SV452> i was about to say thanx for that erUSUL
[01:26] <vdvm> Hi! What you're opinion about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1478446
[01:26] <vdvm> Is it really safe?
[01:26] <vdvm> I also got this reply: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=40204#post40204
[01:26] <vdvm> :)
[01:26] <kutan_> I never even got to install the drivers...
[01:26] <Rico> kutan: just edit the file manually, change 'nv' to 'nvidia' under the Device section
[01:26] <stefg> !nvidia
[01:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:26] <Rico> that is, if you downloaded nvidia-glx
[01:26] <justin_> kutan_: Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - under "driver" change it to "nv"
[01:27] <SV452> one more question - i wanna streamline my ubuntu for my pc and take of software and othe stuff that is not needed does anybody have any idea
[01:27] <Rico> actu
[01:27] <justin_> in sudo, of course.. or else it will refuse you saving the file hehe
[01:27] <justin_> SV452: "Synaptic" "Status" installed stuff.
[01:28] <justin_> SV452: and to clean up past packages --- sudo apt-get clean
[01:28] <stefg> and then: gtkorphan
[01:28] <SV452> u mean packages in my archives folder ?
[01:28] <stefg> !info gtkorphan
[01:28] <ubotu> gtkorphan: A graphical tool to find and remove orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-1 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 280 kB
[01:28] <justin_> SV452: No.. the leftovers in /var
[01:28] <kutan_> justin_ when you say under driver... which one? There's a ton of places to change that.
[01:28] <justin_> If you go into synaptic, click "status" - you will find all that is installed etc, and you simply right click remove ---- apply.
[01:29] <SV452>  u mean ?/var/cache/apt/archive
[01:29] <CosmoDad> did anyone just fix nbd-client?
[01:29] <melon> pls excuse my repeated learning difficulty.. i'm trying to run dvd decrypter through wine.. i write sudo wine dvddecrypter.exe but get an error saying it doesn't exist in windows/system32 - i've tried variants.. but realised it'd be much quicker if i asked here
[01:29] <SV452> when i do that it complains removing ubuntu base?
[01:29] <stefg> kutan_: please read through the howto... if you you run into problems report back
[01:29] <justin_> Go to "SECTION DEVICE" kutan_
[01:29] <justin_> SV452: sudo apt-get clean
[01:29] <justin_> Do not do it manually..
[01:29] <znh> Hello. I'd like to install Ubuntu Dapper. Is the 'base' installation still possible?
[01:30] <stefg> znh: server-install is waht you're looking for
[01:30] <justin_> melon: It probably is not compatible with WINE, or you need to find the DLL' files it wants
[01:30] <znh> sethk, where can I enter that?
[01:30] <SV452> i am not going to be rude but ubuntu rules !!!!!
[01:30] <justin_> melon: WINE, is not compatible with "all" windows software..
[01:31] <justin_> SV452: Yes, yes it does.
[01:31] <melon> it's the suggested method justin - i'm just too new to understand how to run it
[01:31] <SV452> i used alot of the other flavours - RH, Suse, Mandrake, Gentoo, and my fav slackware
[01:31] <melon> i've followed most walkthroughs - but every one just says "start" the program
[01:31] <SV452> and they have nothing on ubuntu
[01:32] <justin_> melon: You have it correct, but it is asking you for DLL's that are not part of wine --- so you may need them, or it is not compatible with WINE end of story.
[01:32] <znh> stefg, when can I enter that?
[01:32] <stefg> znh: it's a special install-CD
[01:33] <justin_> melon: Have you looked at the WINEhq's compatibility list for your program?
[01:33] <znh> stefg, that's awful
[01:33] <stefg> znh: what do you have?
[01:33] <justin_> melon: Usually when it comes to decrypting/encrypting programs, almost none will function in WINE.
[01:33] <melon> it works with it justin - honestly.. i just don't know how to do it
[01:34] <znh> stefg, I have the PC install disk.. but the machine I'd like to install is way too slow for gnome :)
[01:34] <justin_> wine - program name
[01:34] <melon> ok.. rephrase.. if it should work.. would simply writing "sudo wine programname" work?
[01:34] <stefg> znh: then you might give xubuntu a try... runs beautyfully on my Laptop (700Mhz/256 Mb)
[01:35] <znh> stefg, I just need a shell :)
[01:35] <justin_> melon: sudo wine program.exe --- give it it a shot, if it says "windows32/system32" etc, it is missing dll's that you will need to get
[01:35] <melon> ok - thanks :)
[01:35] <justin_> Xubuntu, is the stuff
[01:35] <justin_> :D
[01:35] <stefg> znh: barve guy (pat,pat) but downloadhttp://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386.iso then
[01:35] <kutan> time to reboot I guess
[01:35] <justin_> Ubuntu runs on PIII's 600 256mb ram
[01:35] <zeus77> sorry to interrupt... but would somebody with dapper/gnome/nvidia mind seeing if just *viewing* this webpage in firefox crashes their system?  the webpage is here (ironically, just a forum post) -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180647&page=16
[01:35] <justin_> kutan: .. huh?
[01:36] <justin_> kutan: Linux does not need to ever reboot..
[01:36] <ryanakca> anybody have a default sources.list kicking around?
[01:36] <stefg> !sources
[01:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:36] <justin_> kutan: ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:36] <justin_> awww well
[01:36] <znh> stefg, does that have the same kernel as with the 'default' one?
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> zeus77, loading
[01:36] <davin> Hi, I accentally(?) deleted my bottom gnome panel, I made a new one but the applications wont show up?
[01:36] <lupine_85> zeus77: works dine
[01:36] <lupine_85> fine*
[01:36] <zeus77> Kamping_kaiser  -- can you scroll to the bottom?
[01:36] <lupine_85> firefox 1.5.0.5
[01:36] <stefg> znh: yup, the kernels are the same, just the default package selection differs
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> zeus77, i'll check.
[01:37] <justin_> lupine_85: Still promoting firefox are we
[01:37] <justin_> :P
[01:37] <znh> stefg, allright. thanks!
[01:37] <justin_> Ubuntu, needs to do right and make Opera its default hehe.
[01:37] <lupine_85> opera--
[01:37] <znh> justin_, hell yeah
[01:37] <znh> lupine_85--
[01:37] <stefg> justin_: stop kidding
[01:37] <lupine_85> signed int lupine_85;
[01:37] <davin> davin: I deleted my bottom gnome pannel by accident, made a new one but applications arent showing, help?
[01:38] <ryanakca> stefg: I know what a sources.list is... I wouldn't be writing the next class if I didn't... I'm just looking for an unmodified sources.list, like the one found on freshly installed systems
[01:38] <stefg> !easysource
[01:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:38] <znh> Opera is like 10 times faster as Firefox and lesser bugs for the interface
[01:38] <juan> right so u want to get rid of the open source very customisable browser that fits in well in gnome, and replace it with opera? because its abit faster by default?
[01:38] <stefg> that was the important part
[01:38] <abo> what's the console command the manipulate images?
[01:38] <kutan> Hmmm How do I know if it was installed?
[01:38] <davin>  I deleted my bottom gnome pannel by accident, made a
[01:38] <davin>           new one but applications arent showing, help?
[01:38] <davin> sorry paste
[01:39] <davin> wont happen again
[01:39] <lupine_85> abo: you're not likely to get a console gimp replacement. what're you trying to do to the image?
[01:39] <justin_> stefg: I was not kidding.
[01:39] <hilikussss> gt\\
[01:39] <zeus77> lupine_85 -- when you loaded that wegpage, could you scroll to the bottom successfully?
[01:39] <vdvm> Hi, can someone give his opinion on this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1478446 thank you :)
[01:40] <abo> lupine_85, there is a tool that compress and other interresting image manipulation, that can work in a batch file
[01:40] <ben_underscore> hi all
[01:40] <justin_> davin: Rebuild your menu, with a menu editor such as alacarte
[01:40] <stefg> kutan: it won't hurt to run 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx-config && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' again
[01:40] <kgoetz> zeus77: yeh, it crashed... X
[01:40] <davin> cheers
[01:40] <zeus77> that's weird.
[01:40] <FirstStrike> I think davin has been here for two days straight breaking things );
[01:40] <davin> justin_: thats the menu, im talking about panels
[01:40] <kgoetz> back soon
[01:40] <kutan> "E: Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config"
[01:41] <stefg> justin_: opera isn't OSS, thus it's not even possible to consider it as a default
[01:41] <ben_underscore> i want to build a package for a postgres module so it can be distributed through synaptic. where would i start to look on how to build a package using the debian tools?
[01:41] <lupine_85> zeus77: hmm
[01:41] <lupine_85> I scrolled to the bottom fine
[01:41] <lupine_85> scrolling back up, my X server restarted...
[01:41] <justin_> stefg: Yeah, like people really read firefox code.. *yawn* please.
[01:41] <znh> stefg, while being closed source, lesser exploits can be found instantly
[01:41] <zeus77> lupine_85: yeah, sometimes i can make it to the bottom... other times not.  but it always dies.
[01:42] <justin_> davin: Well usually it would be in your settings, ---- start->settings-> window managers, panels etc
[01:42] <lupine_85> my suspcicious mind says someone might have inserted naughty javascript or somethinf
[01:42] <justin_> But since I am in XFCE, I am not sure if the same method applies to Gnome.
[01:42] <zeus77> maybe i'll try it in windoze.
[01:42] <kutan> stefg, it says "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is already the newest version." and then it says "E: Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config"
[01:42] <lupine_85> try disabling javascript and trying again
[01:43] <lupine_85> it's called nvidia-glx now, surely?
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> lupine_85, yeh, mine says that too
[01:43] <stefg> kutan: oh.. its just nvidia-glx, as in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:43] <kutan> oh
[01:43] <abo> lupine_85, got it, it's called convert
[01:44] <davin> justin_ not there..
[01:44] <lupine_85> ok, sorry with all the restarting X my mind wandered
[01:44] <lupine_85> short attention span ;)
[01:45] <kutan> Alright well that worked stefg, is that all I needed to do?
[01:45] <davin> someone?
[01:45] <justin_> davin: gnome-session-remove gnome-panel
[01:45] <justin_> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[01:45] <justin_> gnome-panel &
[01:45] <davin> justin_: now all my panels are gone
[01:45] <stefg> kutan: now verify in /etc/X11/xorg.conf that there's nvidia _not_ nv in the driver section
[01:46] <justin_> davin: Or you could always rename - ./gnome2 and logout and restart, that should recreate the default panels.
[01:46] <minerale> so I was having problems with gdm, removing it installing it was not doing it, so I did dpkg -L gdm and locate gdm and removed all the files .... now gdm won't install
[01:46] <justin_> davin: lol.. what are you doing to delete all your panels?
[01:46] <davin> justin_: gnome-session-remove gnome-panel
[01:46] <minerale> installing gdm apparently, does not install the rc scripts needed for it
[01:46] <justin_> davin good now do the rest
[01:46] <davin> justin_: whats the rest?
[01:46] <stefg> minerale: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:47] <justin_> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[01:47] <justin_> gnome-panel
[01:47] <justin_> or gnome-panel &
[01:47] <kutan> stefg, it says nv
[01:47] <stefg> kutan: so change that to nvidia
[01:47] <davin> justin_ nothing happens
[01:48] <kutan> Alright
[01:48] <justin_> davin, ctrl-alt-backspace, it will restart X - login to Gnome again, see if your panels are back to normal.
[01:48] <davin> justin_ k hang on
[01:48] <justin_> davin: If not, go into your home directory and rename your ./gnome
[01:48] <justin_> ./gnome ./gnome2 - whatever they named it now
[01:48] <||arifaX> is there a similar program like netlimiter(win) for linux? - I have to set bandwith for processes
[01:49] <justin_> davin: So are the panels back?
[01:49] <davin> justin_: it worked, cheers!
[01:49] <justin_> davin: Good, now don't delete them again ;D
[01:49] <davin> justin_: ^_^
[01:50] <Azimov> hi, i have a problem with my nvida sound no audio capture works and some applications dont output sound
[01:50] <stefg> !sond
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sond - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <stefg> !sound
[01:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:50] <justin_> Azimov: Capture as in record? - and what programs lack sound
[01:51] <Gordo> Hi guys, I have a scalix mail server running. My incomming port 25 is blocked and ive got a forwarding service setup. I cant change the port that scalix listens on, how can i open another port and tunnel traffic. My router doesnt allow for tunneling from one port to another...so i need to do it on the server...thanks in advance.
[01:51] <zeus77> lupine_85: turned off javascript, it still died.  tried in windoze, it worked fine.  are you running an nvidia driver?
[01:51] <stefg> nvidia-audio sometimes requires 'mic2' to be selected as inpit source
[01:51] <SirKillalot> am I able to CONTINUE a file copy process with "cp" or some other program when the copy process was interrupted the time before?
[01:51] <SirKillalot> I want to copy a big file from Cdrom to my HDD
[01:51] <SirKillalot> it already copied 80% and crashed, I do not want to start the copy process once again, but continue it
[01:51] <Azimov> Zsnes, virtually all games, even when i use aoss
[01:51] <_ShoGo_> [13:49]  <_ShoGo_> Hi, my x server restarts when I launch "glxinfo", any idea?
[01:51] <DjDarkmanMS> hy ,I moved to another city ,bought another PC ,kept the harddrive ,and I won`t have Internet connection for a while ,I`m currently in an internet cafe and I want to ask ,what should I download to be able to install an ubuntu k8 kernel and how can I make ubuntu reconfigure my network?
[01:51] <lupine_85> zeus77: yes
[01:51] <justin_> Azimov: If your sound is onboard sometimes it will only allow sound to be in one program at once, like if you play an mp3 - you will have to close the MP3 program, then restart your browser to have sound in it --- its tedious I know..
[01:52] <lupine_85> was that windows firefox?
[01:52] <lupine_85> SirKillalot: maybe try wget -c file:// ?
[01:52] <lupine_85> (don't know if it'll work or not)
[01:52] <stefg> justin_: please reads about dmix
[01:52] <Gordo> actually, let me rephrase my long question...how do you port forward on the same box...iptables?
[01:52] <zeus77> lupine_85: yes, windows firefox.
[01:52] <lupine_85> report a bug?
[01:52] <stefg> Gordo: right
[01:52] <zeus77> yeah, i guess so.
[01:53] <Gordo> stefg: thnaks. Just wanted to make sure i was using the right tool.....Research time!
[01:53] <justin_> stefg: I would but that's too much work for audio, audio should be up and ready on OS'es made in 2006.
[01:53] <stefg> Gordo: have a look at firestarter
[01:53] <justin_> That is my only dislike about Linux, audio.. *sighs*
[01:53] <lupine_85> audio is a mess :
[01:53] <stefg> !info firestarter
[01:53] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[01:54] <lupine_85> too many competing standards IMO
[01:54] <lupine_85> so let's start another standard to unify them all! erm, hang on..
[01:54] <DjDarkmanMS> can someone help me with these?
[01:54] <justin_> lupine_85: I agree, they need to come to a standard..
[01:54] <npster> I need a mp3/ogg 2 swav (simple wav) wav converter that actually makes the files in real wav not 35 MB files !!! ??? HELP
[01:55] <justin_> I do not mind tinkering with other things, but audio? c'mon..
[01:55] <minerale> stefg: I did dpkg-reconfigure gdm, but gdm is still messed up, I manually removed all gdm files, including /etc/init.d/gdm - and taht does not  seem to get reinstalled on it's own
[01:55] <lupine_85> npster: WAV files have no compression...
[01:55] <lupine_85> hence the huge size
[01:55] <lupine_85> minerale: apt-get remove --purge; apt-get install ?
[01:55] <stefg> minerale: have you tried sudo apt-get install--reinstall gdm ?
[01:55] <justin_> npster: WAV files are always big..
[01:55] <npster> lupine_85: Then how is it that a 5sec song on my mobile in wav is 8KB or less
[01:56] <lupine_85> ...because it isn't a real wav ?
[01:56] <stefg> minerale: you noted the missing space, didn't you
[01:56] <justin_> npster: The smallest WAV format is microsoft APCM, and it is not compatible with Linux to my knowledge - never will play under XMMS for instance..
[01:56] <npster> lupine_85: Then I need that type
[01:56] <lupine_85> then you need to find out what type it is :)
[01:56] <lupine_85> MIDI ?
[01:56] <npster> no
[01:56] <lupine_85> <insert proprietary format here>?
[01:56] <npster> it is like this whistle.wav
[01:57] <justin_> npster: Ahh..
[01:57] <justin_> npster: You have to change the sample level
[01:57] <npster> justin_: how
[01:57] <justin_> npster: Change it from 41000, to something like 12000's
[01:57] <npster> in lame
[01:57] <justin_> npster: In an audio editor
[01:57] <lupine_85> .wav files are uncompressed, so you can work out the size they should be by checking the bitrate - e.g. 192kbps is 192kb for every second of audio
[01:57] <lupine_85> (8 bits in a byte)
[01:58] <npster> i need the smallest one
[01:58] <lupine_85> of course, there is a significant loss of quality when resampling to tiny levels
[01:58] <npster> like for my cell
[01:58] <lupine_85> 64kbps would be small, but sound horribly (8KB/sec ?)
[01:59] <minerale> stefg: that did not reinstall /etc/init.d/gdm still, maybe that file is not part of the gdm package at all
[01:59] <npster> what is a good mp3/ogg to wav that can resample
[01:59] <npster> Fitzz, are you trying to flood
[01:59] <lupine_85> ecawave ?
[01:59] <Fitzz> sorry, mistyped
[02:00] <npster> lupine that on
[02:00] <npster> e
[02:00] <justin_> npster: I think that cellphones.. general ones, are like 8000/mono
[02:00] <justin_> or 12000/mono
[02:00] <npster> the 1 one yes
[02:00] <npster> i use a siemens cx65
[02:01] <stefg> minerale: i just verified that /etc/init.d/gdm _is_ part of the gdm package
[02:01] <justin_> npster: Well there are too many cellphones for me to know all of them, but you should look in the manual it should tell you the sample rate --- it will be from 8000/14000 and mono.
[02:01] <minerale> stefg: ok, I purged the package, let me try to reinstall it again
[02:01] <npster> i have used in windows 8000 mono and it worked
[02:02] <justin_> npster: Ok, so use that in Linux
[02:03] <keithhhh> Hello everyone, does anyone use a WinTV PVR USB2 Hauppauge tv recorder??
[02:03] <minerale> stefg: ah, ok, purge and reinstall worked, but now it can't find the human.xml theme, where may I get that one?
[02:03] <justin_> npster: It would be easier to do it though an audio editor though.. I think** audacity may have a sample rates setter, but audacity sucks.. -however it is the easiest to install :))
[02:03] <pgquiles> does anybody know of a tftp server which implements RFC2347 (i. e. transfer files > 32MB)?
[02:04] <Beta_M> i need to search for a text file with the known string in it in a specified directory and all the subdirectories... how do i do that?
[02:04] <stefg> minerale: reinstall ubuntu-artwork
[02:04] <minerale> lupine_85: thanks, apt-get purge worked, when I reinstalled it the missing file came back up
[02:05] <f4nt0m3t> hey im looking for an gaming laptop to run ubuntu on, anyone got any recomendations?
[02:05] <SV452> how come mc isn't in ubuntu ?
[02:06] <stefg> !info mc
[02:06] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[02:06] <ChaosFan> Beta_M: cd to that directory and type grep -r "string to search for" *
[02:06] <JosefK> f4nt0m3t: does it have to be portable, or a desktop replacement?
[02:06] <minerale> stefg: thanks again, let me know if you're in or around atlanta, I owe you a beer or something
[02:06] <k31th> Guys i have this package stuck , if i do apt-get -f install it tries to install it however no matter wat i do it says incorrect config then errors the package is "slapd"
[02:06] <f4nt0m3t> Josefk: both
[02:06] <JosefK> f4nt0m3t: those two are mutually exclusive groups
[02:06] <stefg> minerale: so support the german brewery industry by buying yourself a Becks :-)
[02:06] <k31th> How can i get rid of it as its obviously breaking ym DB so i cant do apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[02:06] <f4nt0m3t> well i needs at least 15" display
[02:07] <f4nt0m3t> most portable will i say
[02:07] <Beta_M> ChaosFan:  thanks... is there a way to make it not case sensitive
[02:07] <FirstStrike> I haven't seen a laptop with smaller than a 15" screen in years.
[02:07] <ChaosFan> Beta_M: i'll have look, sec
[02:07] <f4nt0m3t> MacBook got 13,3" display
[02:07] <JosefK> FirstStrike: really?  I wouldn't be a laptop with a screen bigger than 14" :/
[02:07] <JosefK> *buy
[02:07] <ChaosFan> Beta_M: grep -r -i ...
[02:07] <k31th> my laptop is wicked slim / small best way tbh
[02:07] <Beta_M> thanks
[02:08] <FirstStrike> I owned a laptop with a 17" screen for a while
[02:08] <ChaosFan> Beta_M: man grep, by the way ;)
[02:08] <JosefK> f4nt0m3t: look at some of the Dells, maybe a Dell XPS or an Alienware.  good for gaming, relatively environmentally friendly, and not built in sweatshops *cough apple*
[02:08] <FirstStrike> But, I decided to get rid of it and get a PDA as that suited me better.
[02:08] <f4nt0m3t> i think smaller than 15" gets to small, but anyone got anny suggestion for an gamer laptop?
[02:08] <antoxz> how do I identify a device in udev rules? I have a ptp-camera and would like that a script is launced when I [dis] connect it only.
[02:08] <Beta_M> ChaosFan:  i know about man, i just didn't know what command to use at all
[02:09] <stefg> FirstStrike: so this would take the lap of a 200 lbs. person to be still a 'laptop', huh?
[02:09] <flabdablet> evening all - any wpa2_supplicant experts about?
[02:09] <FirstStrike> eh? a 200 pound person?
[02:09] <FirstStrike> i don't see how having a big screen would require you to be a big person
[02:09] <ChaosFan> Beta_M: no problem ;)
[02:09] <lupine_85> now *that* sounds like a sweatshop ;)
[02:09] <lupine_85> My slaves all cost at least 250
[02:09] <FirstStrike> i'm not a 'big' person at all and i managed fine.
[02:10] <stefg> FirstStrike: your lap has to be big enough to fit a 17" on it :-)
[02:10] <FirstStrike> Are you a midget?
[02:10] <JosefK> aye FirstStrike.  I've got a Powerbook G4 12" here, but it's really too small to do too much useful work on
[02:10] <antoxz> is it possible to apply script when a *certain* device is atached to PC?
[02:11] <JosefK> antoxz: http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/?selected=usb - hotplug
[02:11] <lupine_85> hotplug is deprecated
[02:11] <JosefK> really?
[02:11] <lupine_85> isn't it coldplug now?
[02:11] <lupine_85> !hotplug
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <lupine_85> !coldplug
[02:11] <JosefK> !coldplug
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coldplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coldplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <lupine_85> meh
[02:11] <stefg> !udev
[02:11] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 079-0ubuntu34 (dapper), package size 233 kB, installed size 804 kB
[02:11] <JosefK> you may be right lupine_85, last time I did anything with hotplug was a year or two ago
[02:12] <lupine_85> my devices all stay plugged in :)
[02:12] <antoxz> unfortunately, manpages didn't help me :/
[02:12] <stefg> hotplug s deprecated, ubuntu uses udev now
[02:12] <JosefK> thanks stefg
[02:12] <SV452> question : is there something better than alacarte for menus - i am wanting to make custom menus but alacarte is being full of nonsense
[02:12] <flabdablet> evening all - can somebody help me with WPA2?
[02:13] <antoxz> and the desired script is launched 8 times, when any usb-device is being connected :D
[02:13] <stefg> SV452: vim
[02:13] <fatbrain> is PF available on Linux-platforms?
[02:13] <holycow> can someone plz dcc me the flash 7 plugin from adobe.com?
[02:14] <stefg> !flash
[02:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:14] <holycow> i can download about 34k of the plugin before it dies
[02:14] <holycow> stefg, please don't try to help, i'm not a noob
[02:14] <stefg> holycow: you can apt-get (after you enabled universe)
[02:14] <SV452> i recon nano will work too ??
[02:14] <holycow> *sigh*
[02:14] <||arifaX> antoxz you can leave a script running that checks if your device is connected and if not continues in a loop. detection could be made like DETECTED=`ls /dev | grep ttyUSB0`
[02:14] <holycow> here we go again, noobs not listening
[02:15] <holycow> MY DOWNLOADS DIE HALF WAY.  UBUNTU DOESN'T DISTRIBUTE THE PLUGIN.  THE APT-GET STUFF JUST DOWNLOADS IT FROM MACROMEDIA
[02:15] <holycow> damit, every single time
[02:15] <lupine_85> holycow: tried wget?
[02:15] <holycow> lupine_85, nothing works bro
[02:15] <JosefK> wget -c...
[02:15] <holycow> not d4x, nothing
[02:15] <holycow> it all stops at 34k
[02:15] <SV452> i installed flash manually
[02:15] <JosefK> holycow: not using sky2 are you?
[02:15] <||arifaX> holycow, you are behind a proxy?
[02:16] <holycow> SV452, thats what i'm trying to do, i need someone to just dcc me the .gz kindly :)
[02:16] <antoxz> ||arifaX: 10x for idea, but I don't connect that device too often to have a permanent running script... but am a little bit to lazy, to launch it everytime anyway.
[02:16] <stefg>  dpkg -l | grep flash
[02:16] <stefg> ii  flashplugin-nonfree                   7.0.63.3ubuntu3   Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[02:16] <holycow> no i'm not behind a proxy, i've tried to figure this out for a year, it only happens with their frickin ftp and the isp is not interested in helping
[02:16] <holycow> stefg, please dude, i'm not a fucking noob
[02:16] <holycow> it's a goddamned installer, its not thbe plugin
[02:16] <holycow> go extract the deb
[02:16] <imbrandon> holycow, watch the language please
[02:17] <hantoo> How do I know how many packages need upgrading using commandline?
[02:17] <lupine_85> http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[02:17] <holycow> lupine_85, :)
[02:17] <npster> Can lame resample ?
[02:17] <lupine_85> tell me when it's down
[02:17] <antoxz> npster: yes.
[02:17] <holycow> yes! sweetness :)
[02:17] <npster> how?
[02:17] <holycow> that works!!!!
[02:18] <holycow> appreciate it so much, i'm gonna archive this permanently
[02:18] <holycow> :)
[02:18] <lupine_85> lol. is it finished downloading?
[02:18] <holycow> yeah, i can't figure it out, works on everyone elses ftp, just not macromedias.
[02:18] <stefg> holycow: so it's the the installer can't get the actual plugin from the macromedia-site? Should be a temporary problem
[02:18] <holycow> stefg, oh my god
[02:18] <antoxz> npster: see "man lame" and "--resample" in there.
[02:18] <lupine_85> it's http... http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[02:19] <holycow> stefg, i appreciate you are trying to help and that is graciously accepted.  i thank you.
[02:19] <ryanakca> how do you use imagemagick to resize an image?
[02:19] <antoxz> npster: for more sophisticated processing try sox ;)
[02:19] <stefg> holycow: i'm too modest to accept being called your god :-)
[02:19] <holycow> stefg, i humbly submit that you might consider not comming to conclusions ... i assure you this problem has existed at this particular connection with shaw for 1 year or more, and it only applies to the macromedia servers
[02:20] <holycow> it definately isn't a temporary problem and i thank lupine_85 for graciously helping out as well :)
[02:20] <hantoo> so .. anyone?
[02:20] <flabdablet> holycow: when you have trouble like this, have you considered using Coral?  That is, does http://fpdownload.macromedia.com.nyud.net:8080/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz work for you?
[02:21] <holycow> hantoo, there is a parameter for apt you can use to give you that but i'm too lazy to look it up.  i just do dist-upgrade and that tells me what is being pulled on ... then i cancel before proceeding
[02:21] <antoxz> ryanakca: it can be done with convert -resize
[02:21] <lupine_85> -s ?
[02:21] <lupine_85> (simulate)
[02:21] <holycow> flabdablet, thats an interesting experiment ... trying
[02:22] <ryanakca> antoxz: so... convert 1.png -resize 75% 1.png  ? oh, and is there an imagemagick channel?
[02:24] <holycow> flabdablet, nada ...
[02:24] <holycow> ... and the weird thing is this:
[02:24] <znh> ryanakca, unsure
[02:24] <antoxz> ryanakca: check www.imagemagick.org out
[02:24] <holycow> its only borked on all linux versions.  windows can download it fine
[02:25] <holycow> or course i don't have that available to me, and shaw tech support doesn't believe me :)
[02:25] <holycow> lol
[02:25] <holycow> its kooky
[02:25] <mooky> kooky ? do you mean mooky ?
[02:25] <holycow> no kooky :)
[02:25] <holycow> as in weird
[02:26] <holycow> lupine_85, my deepest thanks ... i am addicted to videosift.com :)
[02:26] <npster> I resampled it to 8kbps and it is horrible, just to see how well it sounds on my phone and it is 148 KB
[02:26] <antoxz> ryanakca: and also, there are several algorythms for resizing with usual "quality<->speed"... I don't know which one is default.
[02:27] <flabdablet> holycow: hmmmm.  didn't work for me either.  This did, though: http://www.the-cloak.com/Cloaked/+cfg=15/http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[02:28] <holycow> flabdablet, no shit
[02:28] <holycow> that does work?
[02:28] <holycow> weeeird
[02:28] <stefg> holycow: so to help you normalize your breathing you'd need the flash7 installer .tgz dcc'ed, or what?
[02:28] <holycow> stefg, lol
[02:28] <justin_> You know gtkorphan, is not that good
[02:28] <flabdablet> stefg, do try to keep up :)
[02:28] <holycow> just need the fickin plugs ... i don need no stinking package manager to copy them for me :)
[02:29] <holycow> flabdablet, wow thats cool, i didn't know about that site
[02:29] <justin_> Even if the libs are needed by programs you install yourself, it will still tell you they are orphaned - does anyone know the homepage of the developers?
[02:29] <holycow> *bookmark*
[02:29] <flabdablet> anonymous proxies are occasionally very useful :-)  glad to be of help.  Now: can anybody help me with WPA2?
[02:30] <Cheveux> for my work i can choose out a notebook/laptop does anyone here know one that might be optimal for ubuntu?
[02:30] <holycow> flabdablet, *ooo* i didn't think that was supported yet ... ?
[02:30] <justin_> Cheveux: Compaq's.
[02:30] <ryanakca> antoxz: thanks
[02:30] <flabdablet> holycow: maybe that's why it won't work for me then :-(
[02:30] <antoxz> ryanakca: you're welcome.
[02:30] <justin_> Compaq's tend to have a good compatibility with Linux in general..
[02:30] <holycow> Cheveux, there is a list of known working laptops on the ubuntu wiki
[02:30] <holycow> Cheveux, i don't have the linkage for you but its there and its pretty good
[02:30] <DjDarkmanMS> is there a command to reconfigure the network?
[02:30] <justin_> Cheveux: And I would say.. stay away from the Dell's..
[02:31] <JosefK> Cheveux: ignore him, Dell's are good
[02:31] <holycow> Cheveux, depending on your needs, you might be able to get an hp laptops with ubuntu preinstalled if you call
[02:31] <antoxz> flabdablet: I think wifi-radar can be a gui which configures wpa_supplicant...
[02:32] <holycow> acer actually makes and sells linux specific laptop model ... with linux compatible everything except the winmodem
[02:32] <lupine_85> mmmm exploding Dell laptops
[02:32] <tuxtux> ciao
[02:32] <JosefK> lupine_85: mmm, exploding Apple laptops (I have a G4 battery in the affected range :()
[02:32] <der0b> there's also system76, linux pre-installed lappies
[02:33] <holycow> antoxz, is wpa is actually supported technically even if only by cli interface?
[02:33] <dark2y> hi
[02:33] <dark2y> can anyone give me a little help pls..
[02:33] <dark2y> :D
[02:33] <justin_>  exploding Apple laptops --- haha
[02:33] <||arifaX> holycow, checkout http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[02:33] <justin_> dark2y: What is the problem
[02:33] <JosefK> justin_: haha, as in it's wrong?
[02:34] <antoxz> holycow: unfortunately I am to unexpirienced to be aware of support issues :D
[02:34] <holycow> well its the batteres ... the latest bad batch is made by sony
[02:34] <dark2y> well.. i get cannot open display error
[02:34] <holycow> those are the ones exploding in dells
[02:34] <dark2y> and i tryed setting the display variable
[02:34] <flabdablet> Cheveux: some fairly recent advice here: http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/45836
[02:34] <holycow> ||arifaX, neato
[02:34] <dark2y> and it dose nothing..
[02:34] <dark2y> i tryed other fixes.. and nothing..
[02:34] <justin_> dark2y: So you are stuck in console? - are you sure that you have the right driver underneath "DEVICE SECTION" set?
[02:34] <dark2y> it worked
[02:35] <dark2y> i am realy shure everything is ok..
[02:35] <dark2y> i used it this morning
[02:35] <dark2y> it's the second time
[02:35] <SV452> can i use another browser instead of nautilus ?
[02:35] <dark2y> i have this error
[02:35] <dark2y> the last time i reinstaled it
[02:35] <dark2y> from scratch..
[02:35] <justin_> dark2y: You turned off your machine yet?
[02:35] <thephunkizm> hi.  i was directed here by the Ubuntu install cd
[02:35] <dark2y> i am on windows now..
[02:36] <dark2y> i am not realy good with consoles..
[02:36] <dark2y> :d
[02:36] <justin_> dark2y: Most likely a driver has been changed, or something in the options - because when it cannot find screens.. thats what it usually is.
[02:36] <npster> I need to convert a mp3 file to wav with these attributes Bit Rate 32kbps , Audio Sample size 4 bit, Channels 1 (mono) Audio sample rate 8kHZ audio format IMA ADPCM . How do I do this ???
[02:36] <tizwon> has anyone got bitchx to actually use ANSI fonts and look how its supposed to on ubunt?
[02:36] <dark2y> yup.. all of today i spend it on instaling no things..
[02:36] <dark2y> now...
[02:36] <SV452> !GBrowser
[02:36] <dark2y> :D
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GBrowser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <dark2y> new.. sorry
[02:36] <SV452> hmmm
[02:37] <flabdablet> npster: sounds like a job for sox
[02:37] <JosefK> npster: you can use ffmpeg, but you'll need to read the manpages/online help to figure out the right command line
[02:37] <dark2y> so i think something mest it up..
[02:37] <JosefK> npster: http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html
[02:37] <spi> hi to all!
[02:37] <dark2y> how can i reset all my x graphics..
[02:37] <justin_> dark2y: Did you keep a back up of your xorg.conf?
[02:37] <dark2y> all mai settings??
[02:37] <tizwon> has anyone got bitchx to actually use ANSI fonts and look how its supposed to on ubunt?
[02:37] <dark2y> nop..
[02:37] <dark2y> :(
[02:37] <Coffeegrinds> ubotu embeded
[02:37] <thephunkizm> i would like to install Ubuntu, but the installation interface is set to the wrong resolution, and will not let me change the resolution!  is there anything i can do about this?
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about embeded - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <justin_> dark2y: ... you should haev done that
[02:38] <Coffeegrinds> ubotu embedded
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about embedded - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <dark2y> i know.. i diden't know i needed it..
[02:38] <dark2y> i have the live cd...
[02:38] <justin_> dark2y: Go to console and type --- sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and edit your stuff, go to "DEVICE SECTION" if you have a radeon driver = "radeon" if you have nvidia type "nv"
[02:38] <dark2y> ok..
[02:38] <Coffeegrinds> has anyone ever attempted installing Ubuntu off an IDE CF drive?
[02:38] <dark2y> let me note that
[02:38] <justin_> dark2y: If you have no xorg.conf... you have no Xwindows.
[02:39] <Coffeegrinds> rather on to a CF drive?
[02:39] <flabdablet> thephunkizm: what resolution do you need?
[02:39] <tizwon> bleh... people here :P
[02:39] <Cheveux> hm oke thanks ill check out the pages :)
[02:40] <Ge2X> how can i get ubuntu to play mp3s
[02:40] <stefg> Coffeegrinds: that's possible, but not very advisable.. you'll need at least 2 Gigs, and the frequent writes of temp-files will wear out the memory real quick
[02:40] <eXistenZ> !mp3
[02:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:40] <dark2y> ok.. let me try that..
[02:40] <thephunkizm> anything different from this one! =\  i'm not sure exactly what resolution, but all it offers me is 640x480.  i'm using a compaq FS7600 moniter..
[02:40] <dark2y> got to restart..
[02:40] <Coffeegrinds> yeah thats what I'm seeing, however I know DSL has a frugal install that eliminates most writes to the drive
[02:40] <dark2y> thanks a loot..
[02:41] <maple1> ubuntu is not something that you just dump something on, it's not a big truck. it's a series of tubes
[02:41] <Coffeegrinds> ubuntu's not tubes, but it's got some mean pipes
[02:41] <holycow> Coffeegrinds, you just need one hosed proccess to keep on writing to your flash storage media to burn it out in litterrally less than 2 minutes
[02:41] <Cheveux> is there a way too change the pc name after the installation?
[02:41] <lupine_85> Coffeegrind: what are you wanting to use it for?
[02:42] <lupine_85> aspisos is good for non-graphical linux off a CF drive
[02:42] <Coffeegrinds> experimentation.. I donm't see much on it really..
[02:42] <lupine_85> (no writes to the disc at all!)
[02:42] <flabdablet> thephunkizm: try appending vga=792 to the boot command line
[02:42] <stefg> Coffeegrinds: noone is hindering you to do server install or xubuntu to a CF, and set up a tmpfs for all the busy dirs in /tmp and  /var
[02:42] <Cheveux> does ubuntu run on notebook from apple? i really like there designs :)
[02:42] <BlueEagle>  <= ser det rett ut eller er utf-8 borkalisert?
[02:43] <psyoptik> I am having problems syncing my Palm Tungsten E2 to Evolution with gpilotd. I followed the ubuntu HOWTO on the wiki, was able to have it connect, but unsuccessfully, twice. Now will not connect again. If I open gpilotd from the terminal it either says it times out, or it was unable to bind to pilot. Any ideas how I could fix this?
[02:43] <BlueEagle> dang. Wrong window
[02:43] <Coffeegrinds> thats the thing with DSL, it's small enough to use your CF to read from and throw it all into memory. so i figure tahts a good way to stop unwanted writes
[02:43] <holycow> Cheveux, people do run it on apple laptops but ... i can't tell yo uhow many times i've seen people have problems with them
[02:44] <Coffeegrinds> stefg: thats what i was thinking, just use the CF to load linux, but use my 40gb drive for swap and for tmp
[02:44] <stefg> Coffeegrinds: the only thing is that even a default server-install already requires around 500 MB, so better install to a hd, trim down and then move the install to the CF
[02:44] <holycow> Cheveux, you would basically be taking a risk of technical issues in exchange for a nicely designed laptops chasis
[02:44] <thephunkizm> ok, thank you flabdablet.  i will try that, but i might be back to see how to go about appending a line to the boot command line =P
[02:45] <kozmic> whats the default runlevel? 3 or 5?
[02:45] <Cheveux> holycow: thats too much risk for me then ;)
[02:45] <justin_> kozmic: 2
[02:45] <minerale> I'm looking for a package that'll let me see not just hex, but binary in a file, anyone know of any ?
[02:45] <holycow> Coffeegrinds, sounds like fun, but what do you then gain with that sort of setup?
[02:45] <kozmic> justin_: hmm. hehe, okey. thanks
[02:45] <Coffeegrinds> 1ms read access to a drive
[02:46] <Coffeegrinds> not bad if you don't mind taking a bit of a hit with the 22mb/s write time
[02:46] <SV452> how do xfishtank work ?
[02:46] <npster> I tried something with windows and I got the same attributes but my phone doesn't want to play
[02:46] <Cheveux> holycow: do you have a laptop/notebook of your own?
[02:46] <npster> i do
[02:46] <holycow> i buy several dozen a year for companies
[02:46] <flabdablet> evening all
[02:46] <Coffeegrinds> plus after experimenting I could port the whole thing into a laptop.. lower poer consumption .. yada yada
[02:47] <holycow> Coffeegrinds, i don't see it
[02:47] <holycow> sounds like a lot of work for virtually no gain outside of hey it can be done
[02:47] <holycow> :)
[02:47] <holycow> it does sound like a fun thing to try
[02:48] <holycow> i did read about ubuntu on a usb memory stick not too long ago
[02:48] <holycow> i didn't care enough for the idea to bookmark tho :)
[02:48] <Coffeegrinds> holycow, well I've haven't seen it, so theres no reason to say that it shouldn't be done? besides it it all craps out I'm out what maybe 30$ for the card, and thats creaper than a video game
[02:49] <Coffeegrinds> dwah
[02:49] <holycow> Coffeegrinds, :) not suggesting yo udon't try it ... definately do a writeup if you do :)
[02:49] <psyoptik> does no one have any ideas on how to gets Palm PDA's working in Ubuntu?
[02:49] <holycow> i've thinking of converting my toaster into a single board computer just so that i can say i have linux on a toaster
[02:49] <holycow> >_>
[02:50] <holycow> psyoptik, depends what you mean by 'working'
[02:50] <JosefK> holycow: http://www.embeddedarm.com/news/netbsd_toaster.htm ;)
[02:50] <holycow> JosefK, oh, damn.
[02:50] <holycow> i hate you
[02:50] <psyoptik> haha
[02:50] <holycow> lol
[02:50] <holycow> :)
[02:50] <Coffeegrinds> holycow you can bet on it that i will. cause heck if it's the slightest bit faster and lasts a year, then i replace the drive, I"m going to try and do this right
[02:50] <psyoptik> well I mean like being able to sync my calendar and such with evolution
[02:51] <DocTomoe> is there a way to change PDF Metadata in ubuntu? I am using imagemagick to convert scanned PNGs to PDF, and it would be nice if I could edit Metadata to find my documents again lter
[02:51] <holycow> Coffeegrinds, i just keep an updated image available and image hds as necessary
[02:51] <SV452> something is hogging my cpu ?? where can i find out what it is - i tried system monitor but that doesn't show me anything ?
[02:51] <Coffeegrinds> compu-toast 8000 better make some open source pop tarts
[02:51] <LightTitan> How do I tell grub to default to booting windows instead of my Linux partition?
[02:52] <Cheveux> is there a way too change the pc name after the installation?
[02:52] <holycow> LightTitan, modify your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:52] <DocTomoe> LightTitan: try sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.list and edit accordingly
[02:52] <holycow> just change the order of os's at the  bottom
[02:52] <LightTitan> holycow and DocTomoe Thanks :)
[02:53] <DocTomoe> Cheveux: Just change it at /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.
[02:53] <snedar> hey! I'm trying to install edgy knot 1 from the livecd, but it's taking very long for gparted to start up. is there any way to find the error that causes this?
[02:53] <Bazzi> snedar: try knot 2, knot 1 bugreports are not much useful anymore
[02:54] <Cheveux> DocTomoe: how did you know that? i mean i want to figure out things like that by my self :)
[02:54] <dark2y> ok
[02:54] <dark2y> back..
[02:54] <dark2y> :))
[02:54] <snedar> Bazzi: er, yes, sorry, I meant knot 2 :-)
[02:54] <DocTomoe> Cheveux: I'm not exactly a newbie with some 8 years of unix experience ;)
[02:55] <Cheveux> DocTomoe: hehe ok that might come in handy :)
[02:55] <snedar> ah, gparted already started up, so for me there's no problem anymore now
[02:55] <dark2y> can someone still help me with the xhost display problem plsss..
[02:55] <snedar> I'll check in an updated version whether the bug is still there
[02:55] <orbital_fox> hello
[02:55] <RedGhost> hello
[02:55] <DocTomoe> Cheveux: might help to notice that you want to change an system setting (which are normally at /etc), and the thing you want to change ist the hosts' name (=hostname) ;)
[02:55] <orbital_fox> i got a problem with activating 3D acceleration with ATI
[02:55] <orbital_fox> anyone done it before?
[02:55] <DocTomoe> !ati
[02:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:55] <Coffeegrinds> ok now heres a good question, I'm sitting in the Ubuntu's ftp, looking at all the pretty iso's and wondering, Server vs. Alternate?  ultimately which one should i grab?
[02:56] <Bazzi> snedar: go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy discussion :-)
[02:56] <Cheveux> DocTomoe: hehe oke thanks ill keep that in mind :)
[02:56] <Coffeegrinds> server looks much smaller,
[02:56] <dark2y> pls.. somone..
[02:56] <snedar> Bazzi: okay, thank you!
[02:56] <DocTomoe> Cheveux: basically, this simple reasoning helps 80% of the time ... *but*: when in doubt, ask.
[02:56] <orbital_fox> ubotu, i did read that
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i did read that - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <orbital_fox> i get an error that is not predicted in the guide
[02:57] <DocTomoe> Just like me and my pdf metadata editing problem... any suggestions on this?
[02:57] <mookid> is there a gaim plugin thingy for amarok so it can do 'what I'm listening to' like msn messenger does? :DD
[02:57] <dark2y> can anyone tell me how to fix the xhos: unable to open display pls...
[02:57] <dark2y> xhost*
[02:57] <dark2y> pls...
[02:58] <Coffeegrinds> nice. 1090kbps. i like living near a repository
[02:58] <holycow> guys thanks again for the help
[02:58] <holycow> later
[02:58] <Cheveux> DocTomoe: oke thanks again!
[02:58] <DocTomoe> dark2y: usually you get this if you want to start an x program while logged in as another user. this usually is a bad idea. what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:59] <LightTitan> I am kind of confused as to what to edit in my menu.lst to change it to defaultly boot to windows. Can I past my menu.lst to pastebin and have someone take a look at it?
[02:59] <DocTomoe> LightTitan: feel free to do so.
[02:59] <dark2y> well
[02:59] <dark2y> i start linux...
[02:59] <dark2y> it boots up..
[02:59] <dark2y> it's starts gnome-session...
[02:59] <dark2y> then i get the black screen..
[02:59] <dark2y> then the console root login..
[03:00] <dark2y> then gnome tryes to start again
[03:00] <dark2y> then i am stuck in root console..
[03:00] <LightTitan> Here it is, can someone take a look and tell me what I need to change?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23050
[03:00] <dark2y> actuali in the login level..
[03:00] <dark2y> i try to start gnome-session manualy...
[03:01] <dark2y> and i get this error
[03:01] <LightTitan> dark2y have you made any recent video driver changes?
[03:01] <DocTomoe> there is no such thing as "root console". I think you speak of the "cli" ... and usually you should not be able to login as root in ubuntu. Did you do something stupid?
[03:01] <DocTomoe> log in as normal user in that cli and try "startx"
[03:02] <dark2y> i've installed all 3d programs in the synaptic repository..
[03:02] <dark2y> this whas the last change i made
[03:02] <dark2y> then i restarted..
[03:02] <dark2y> then this.. :)
[03:02] <DocTomoe> dark2ky: so much about stupid things to do ;)
[03:02] <niruana> hi all i have some problems with my laptop
[03:02] <dark2y> :))
[03:02] <der0b> is there a way to include the video that's running in mplayer in a screen capture?
[03:02] <dark2y> it's the second time.. it crashes becose of some 3d program..
[03:02] <dark2y> :)
[03:03] <niruana> it sometimes crashes (i get a colorfull stripes screen) i think its some resolution crash
[03:03] <dark2y> the last time i'v reinstaled it from 0
[03:03] <DocTomoe> LightTitan: Try putting "default" in the windows section
[03:03] <dark2y> it dosen't starts gnome...
[03:03] <LightTitan> dark2y: lol... well you can try going to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing your video driver to alsa if "startx" does not work... but other than that I have no more suggestions as I am pretty new in Linux too.
[03:03] <dark2y> i tryed that
[03:03] <dark2y> :)
[03:03] <niruana> my screen is also 10pixels out of my laptop screen on the right
[03:03] <LightTitan> DocTomoe: Thanks :)
[03:03] <shadowhywind> morning all
[03:03] <niruana> and i see a blue balk on the left of the laptopscreen
[03:04] <dark2y> i changed the driver to radeon..
[03:04] <dark2y> the live cd works ok
[03:04] <LightTitan> dark2y: well looks like you know as much as I do... I will leave it to the people here who know what they are talking about now =P
[03:04] <DocTomoe> niruana: does this happen every time or after a specific timespan or action?
[03:04] <dark2y> how can i copy the xhost configuration from there?
[03:04] <shadowhywind> I am having a werid audio problem, my audio plays from the speakers instead of my headphones (laptop)
[03:04] <niruana> uhm the 10pixels to the right is every time i start ubuntu
[03:05] <niruana> the screen crash mostly happens when i start VLC
[03:05] <pickett> Van Halen - Top Gun Theme.mp3
[03:05] <niruana> but it happend once that it just happent without starting it
[03:05] <niruana> (VLC)
[03:05] <dark2y> ok.. dose anyone has an idea...
[03:05] <xavier_> hi
[03:05] <dark2y> or knows how can i copy i x configuration
[03:05] <dark2y> from live cd..
[03:06] <DocTomoe> dark2y: try searching for a file named xorg.conf
[03:06] <xavier_> is there any French channel to have help about ubuntu ?
[03:06] <dark2y> my xorg.conf looks ok..
[03:06] <dark2y> i checked it..
[03:06] <DocTomoe> this should be copied to /etc/X11
[03:06] <DocTomoe> darky2: if it is ok, there is no need to get it from the live CD
[03:06] <Snelhest> i have downloaded ubuntu 6.06, but i only want to install the base system
[03:06] <DocTomoe> !fr
[03:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:06] <xavier_> thanks
[03:06] <Snelhest> not xorg gnome etc
[03:06] <xavier_> !fr
[03:07] <cdavis> is anyone using the latest ubuntu and a motorola q as a modem?
[03:07] <dark2y> lol.. the file is ok.. but the rest is not..
[03:07] <DocTomoe> Snelhest: try installing as server
[03:07] <Snelhest> DocTomoe: how?
[03:07] <dark2y> i checked and the last
[03:07] <dark2y> modyfication whas when i instaled the sys..
[03:07] <DocTomoe> Snelhest: I think you are prompted for it at installation time (haven't seen a ubuntu disk since Hoary)
[03:07] <dark2y> so.. if it's not modify...
[03:08] <Snelhest> DocTomoe: well, before i know you could just enter ubuntu-server to get the basics
[03:08] <DocTomoe> dark2y: try remembering what you've installed and dpkg -r it
[03:08] <Snelhest> DocTomoe: but know when its just one cd you dont get any option
[03:08] <dark2y> god idea...
[03:09] <dark2y> can't i reinstall the xwindows
[03:09] <dark2y> system??
[03:09] <DocTomoe> dark2y: I doubt that'll help, by try: sudo install --reinstall xorg*
[03:09] <npster> How to convert mp3/ogg to midi ?
[03:10] <DocTomoe> npster: you want to learn what the basic difference between ogg/mp3 and midi is.
[03:10] <DocTomoe> npster: frankly: there is no way.
[03:10] <npster> I know the difference
[03:10] <dark2y> ok thanks..
[03:10] <dark2y> i will try this..
[03:10] <dark2y> bye.. thanks a lot
[03:10] <keithhhh> Do I need to upgrade the torrent tracker in ubuntu 6.06 ?? I just tried 2 torrents and neither worked...
[03:10] <DocTomoe> npster: then I don't understand how you could ask such a question ;)
[03:12] <ScheissNUssen> what do I get out of the repository instead of downloading quicktime or windows media player?
[03:12] <keithhhh> Do I need to upgrade the torrent tracker in ubuntu 6.06 ?? I just tried 2 torrents and neither worked...
[03:12] <Nixer> Hi
[03:12] <FirstStrike> mplayer
[03:12] <FirstStrike> or VLC
[03:13] <ScheissNUssen> will that play things in firefox?
[03:13] <ScheissNUssen> I already have vlc
[03:13] <Nixer> Hi
[03:13] <FirstStrike> There's a plugin you can install for mplayer to have it work with firefox.
[03:13] <DocTomoe> !RestrictedFormats
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:13] <niruana> so DocTomoe what should crash my system ? A friend says its a screen res crash...
[03:13] <quiet> can anyone tell me why my wlan0(ndiswrapper) has suddenly moved to eth1???
[03:14] <DocTomoe> quiet: You have a RTL chipset?
[03:14] <isos> hye guys. anyone knows how to get a list of all the packages installed in my system written in one file and ready to be apt-get install in another machine?
[03:14] <DocTomoe> niruana: basically, could be. I have no idea how to help you there, however
[03:15] <Subhuman> quiet, my wifi card did the same, but it doesnt really change anything so dont worry.
[03:15] <LightTitan> DocTomoe: I keep looking at my menu.lst but I am not sure where to put default. I am afraid that if I put it in the wrong spot I will not be able to get back into either Linux or windows and so there will be no way of fixing it other than a complete reinstall (since I really don't know what I am doing anyhow) I have cleaned up my menu.lst file and taken out the old kernals (since I don't use them) and repasted it to pastebin htt
[03:15] <LightTitan> p://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23051  Is there any possible way I can get you to give me more detailed instructions as to where to put "default" or maybe edit my menu.lst and repaste it to pastebin so I can see?
[03:15] <DocTomoe> !clone
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <niruana> ok
[03:15] <DocTomoe> LightTitan: You should deinstall the old kernels, or they will be put back in at the next kernel update.
[03:15] <quiet> DocTomoe: i do have a card with rtl8180... but that's not this one.. this is a bcm4318.
[03:16] <quiet> Subhuman: so, if I adjust the configuration to use eth1... it should stay?
[03:16] <LightTitan> DocTomoe: ok, I will do that, I assume through Synaptic...
[03:16] <DocTomoe> quiet: Jupp, there is now a kernel driver for the bcm4xxx series. Therefore, ndiswrapper is no longer needed, and your card has now an ethX name
[03:16] <isos> anyone knows how to get a list of all the packages installed in my system written in a file and ready to be apt-get install in another system?
[03:17] <quiet> DocTomoe: incorrect. the bcm43xx does not work with 4318 chipset.
[03:17] <DocTomoe> quiet: however, works not out-of-the-box. try to find a problem solving to that on google
[03:17] <quiet> and i have blacklisted bcm43xx
[03:17] <DocTomoe> quiet: well, what does dmesg say?
[03:18] <niruana> Can somebody explain me why my ubuntu screen is 10pixels out of my monitor on the right? And i have a 10pixels blue bar on the left
[03:18] <isos> !I tried to Save Markings in synaptic but always creates an empty file
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I tried to Save Markings in synaptic but always creates an empty file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <Matenyii> angelo try dpkg -l > file name
[03:18] <A-L-P-H-A> How do I access mysql from the cli?  I know I have them installed...
[03:19] <Subhuman> A-L-P-H-A, mysqladmin
[03:19] <SpComb> `mysql`
[03:19] <A-L-P-H-A> Subhuman: from terminal?
[03:19] <quiet> DocTomoe: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rtfqnI24.html   so... it doesn't make sense to me that it is showing up as eth1.
[03:20] <A-L-P-H-A> Subhuman: I've got a setup from phpmyadmin setup, just need to change the configuration file for phpmyadmin.  But I can't seem to get mysql to run from bash command prompot.
[03:20] <A-L-P-H-A> prompt
[03:20] <DocTomoe> quiet: but ifconfig says its eth1?
[03:20] <quiet> yep
[03:20] <DocTomoe> strange.
[03:21] <Matenyii> Does anyone know where I can get the smartlink modem drivers for dapper?
[03:21] <Subhuman> A-L-P-H-A, if you need to edit a phpmyadmin conf that will be in /etc, you wont need to run mysqladmin for that
[03:22] <markeib> is there an undo command for the console?
[03:22] <quiet> DocTomoe: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vhK91g67.html
[03:22] <erUSUL> markeib: no afaik
[03:22] <markeib> ok
[03:23] <knoppMythNewbie> Morning all
[03:24] <LightTitan> DocTomoe: I just uninstalled those old kernals and rebooted. Here is my new menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23054 Can you take a look and tell me where I should put default so it will defaultly boot to windows?
[03:26] <guille> hello everybody
[03:26] <LightTitan> hey :)
[03:26] <ScheissNUssen> !vlc
[03:26] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:27] <knoppMythNewbie> I'm trying to mount a remote fileshare...  but I don't have permissions to access the remote share.  I've the same username on both machines, but, the userids are different.  That is, on the remote machine user name joeuser has userid 501, but on the local machine, user joeuser has user id 1000.  Hence when joeuser (1000) tries to connect, the remote thinks 1000 doesn't have permission to access 501.  How do I either get the u
[03:28] <quiet> how do i do a recursive grep through all files for a specific string of text?
[03:29] <erUSUL> quiet: grep -r or rgrep (use man)
[03:29] <LightTitan> Can someone take a look at my grub boot file and tell me exactly what I need to change to make my computer defaulty boot into windoze?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23054
[03:29] <knoppMythNewbie> When I was all mandrake, which has a root user, I simply deleted joeuser and created joeuser specifying a userid.  But on ubuntu, joeuser is the first, and only user.  I fear deleting it, for fear that I'll lose root priveleges.
[03:32] <erUSUL> LightTitan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23056
[03:33] <laimismilas> kas nors kalba lietuviskai??
[03:33] <cerberus> Has anyone here succesfully installed lirc on ubuntu?
[03:33] <quiet> laimismilas: English...
[03:33] <LightTitan> erUSUL: I am looking at it right now. Thanks in advance
[03:34] <guille> I want compile a file.c but I can't. Can somebody help me?
[03:34] <whizz-> how do i back up the list of packages currently installed ?
[03:34] <Rico> guille, apt-get install build-essential
[03:34] <Rico> then use gcc -o file.c file
[03:34] <guille> Ok, thanks Rico, I'll try that.
[03:35] <Rico> whizz- : dpkg -i
[03:35] <LightTitan> erUSUL: what changed? It all looks the same to me?
[03:35] <Rico> whoops, i mean -l
[03:35] <erUSUL> LightTitan: you have to change the 'default 0' to 'default 3' as the windows stanza is the fourth (0 1 2 3)
[03:36] <erUSUL> !b-e > guille
[03:36] <Rico> I've just switched Amarok to use MySQL instead of sqllite, and it connects, but it's now refusing to build a collection.
[03:37] <guille> what erRSUL?
[03:37] <Rico> actually never mind, i think wiping ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and reinstalling might be easiest
[03:38] <erUSUL> !b-e
[03:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:38] <Rico> gotta admit, Amarok is a great player, but buggy as hell.
[03:39] <LightTitan> erUSUL: oh ok... I see and understand how that works now... 0 would be the first option, 1 the second option and so forth. Thanks alot for your help :)
[03:39] <yoshiznit123> hi, is there a way to make ls list directories first in the terminal?
[03:39] <erUSUL> LightTitan: yw
[03:40] <villr[] ye> Hi. 6.06 desktop cd user here.
[03:41] <villr[] ye> I need to install prtimage to backup/save the data on a drive.
[03:42] <villr[] ye> where would I get that package?
[03:43] <}btorch{> hey does anyone here know how I can recover a partition table ?
[03:43] <quiet> i found out why wlan0 was changed to eth1... and i think i managed to fix it... will reboot to verify that it doesn't revert.  /etc/iftab had been changed to link the mac to eth1.... NO idea why.
[03:43] <quiet> back in a few.
[03:43] <}btorch{> I hgave this usb device that I unpluged too fast and the partion table is gone
[03:43] <SV452> !libgnomeui
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgnomeui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <horst> hi all
[03:45] <maple1> Rico: amarok is the least buggy of linux players
[03:45] <Rico> maple1: true, but mysql support is simply broken for me :(
[03:46] <quiet> it works... still wlan0
[03:46] <Rico> it's created the tables but it's not adding songs, even after wiping config files
[03:46] <maple1> amarok uses mysql?
[03:46] <Rico> it can.
[03:46] <der0b> rico: are you adding songs from a mounted samba share?
[03:46] <Rico> der0b: no, from my main partition
[03:47] <maple1> btw, what's the command for mounting an smb drive?
[03:47] <der0b> maple1: mount -t cifs //machine/share /mount/point
[03:47] <der0b> maple1: you need to sudo that.  sorry
[03:47] <Rico> hmm
[03:48] <Rico> the second i switched to sqlite
[03:48] <maple1> what do the -t and cifs do?
[03:48] <Rico> amarok changed to say 'Please be patient while Amarok scans your music collection.' etc.
[03:48] <Rico> weird
[03:48] <maple1> and is it safe to write to a shared ntfs drive?
[03:48] <der0b> -t cifs specifies the filesystem (cifs is smarter than smb)
[03:49] <maple1> so it will autodetect it?
[03:49] <quiet> cifs is also the only thing that works on windows server 2003 shares.
[03:49] <quiet> you cannot mount with -t smbfs
[03:49] <maple1> is it safe to write to a shared ntfs drive?
[03:49] <der0b> I don't maple1
[03:49] <quiet> yes.
[03:49] <der0b> write to ntfs, but you can
[03:49] <quiet> maple1: you mean, network shares.
[03:49] <maple1> yes
[03:49] <quiet> network shares are not the same as local ntfs
[03:49] <maple1> ok
[03:50] <quiet> your not accessing an ntfs drive
[03:50] <maple1> right
[03:50] <quiet> you're accessing a cifs drive
[03:50] <quiet> :)
[03:50] <maple1> so what happens if I mount with smbfs?
[03:50] <quiet> same thing.
[03:50] <Rico> btw, anyone used amarok with mysql, who could comment on the speed difference compared to sqlite?
[03:50] <quiet> but cifs is just.. 'better'.
[03:51] <shadowhywind> morning all
[03:51] <der0b> cifs will auto re-mount if the windows machine is rebooted, smbfs won't which is annoying
[03:52] <shadowhywind> is there a log somewhere of my system bootting up messages?
[03:52] <maple1> cifs is still samba right?
[03:53] <quiet> yes.
[03:54] <quiet> wow... i really like this 'ash' theme for irssi.
[03:54] <quiet> it works very nicely with the Human theme.
[03:55] <Caplain> is there a driver for a winmodem in ubuntu?
[03:55] <quiet> not for free.
[03:56] <quiet> you can try the linuxant driver or whatever it's called... but you'd be MUCH better off to pony up the bucks for an externam hardware modem.
[03:57] <d3vlin> dsfasdf
[03:57] <quiet> qwerty
[03:57] <xe||> hi, does anybody know if ubuntu uses the no-ex bit (execute disable) automatically if available, or if i need to recompile the kernel?
[03:57] <maple1> last question; how would I mount that network share as read only?
[03:58] <GTX> How do I dial into a vpn on ubuntu?
[03:58] <erUSUL> !vpn
[03:58] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:59] <der0b> maple1: add -o ro to the command I gave you earlier
[04:00] <maple1> would -r work too?
[04:00] <der0b> I think so
[04:00] <GTX> How do I dial into a vpn on ubuntu?
[04:00] <caupolican> hola
[04:00] <bluefusionxl> Hey, I have a problem.  I am going to be hosting people and giving them SSH access.  Problem is, they can read my config files with MySQL passwords in it on my public_html folders.  I chmodded them to 700, and now when I go to my forum or something it said permission denied.  How do I lock them in their own directory?  I would still like them to be able to use things like nano, lynx, and gcc, but I don't want them to see any
[04:01] <caupolican> soy un novato que necesita ayuda..
[04:01] <caupolican> alguien puede ayudarme?
[04:01] <bluefusionxl> salut cava
[04:01] <gonniff> is there any way to remote to an ubuntu box *without* physically logging into it first?
[04:01] <erUSUL> !es
[04:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:01] <bluefusionxl> gonnif, yes
[04:01] <bluefusionxl> gonnif, you use openssh
[04:02] <erUSUL> caupolican: vete a #ubuntu-es (/join  #ubuntu-es) si quieres hablar en espaol
[04:02] <bluefusionxl> type sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:02] <gonniff> sorry - I should have added that I want ot use the desktop, not just console to it.
[04:02] <gonniff> :)
[04:02] <gonniff> should have said that first.
[04:02] <cerberus> does anyone know how to install lirc on ubuntu?
[04:02] <bluefusionxl> coup, l'espagnol ne parles pas c'est
[04:02] <Boglizk> Anyone know a program to create a list of numbers? (kindof like a wordlist)
[04:02] <erUSUL> !vnc > gonniff
[04:02] <bluefusionxl> lol french ^_^
[04:02] <guille> Rico, I did sudo apt-get install build-essential and I could compile my file.c
[04:03] <bluefusionxl> but hey anyone know the answer to my question?
[04:03] <gonniff> erUSUL, you have to log into the box physically first to use VNC
[04:03] <Rico> guille: cool :)
[04:03] <gonniff> It's what I've been using (and am using now for this chat session)
[04:03] <Boglizk> !vnc > Boglizk
[04:03] <ssinghi> hi, i became too adventurous and tried upgrading to edgy eft. Now, while booting I get failed to "load hardware drivers" error, and I am also not able to connect to the network when the machine is booted up, besides xserver also doesn't work
[04:04] <der0b> gonniff: do you want to access your active desktop?
[04:04] <ssinghi> anything which I can try?
[04:04] <Crippy-Boy> ssinghi
[04:04] <Crippy-Boy> Its cabbaged?
[04:04] <tizwon> jeezz... nobody knows NOTHING about bitchx and ansi fonts?
[04:04] <Rico> nope
[04:04] <GTX> How do I dial into a vpn on ubuntu?
[04:04] <ssinghi> Crippy-Boy, cabbaged means?
[04:04] <nomin> I've used BitchX
[04:04] <gonniff> der0b, I'd just like to turn the box on at source and then remote to it later from downstairs without having to go upstairs first, log in and get the desktop, and then go back downstairs to VNC to the active desktop
[04:04] <bluefusionxl> gonnif, you can't use VNC without logging in as it is not started without logging in.  You can make yourself login automatically and therefor be able to do i
[04:05] <tizwon> sheesh.
[04:05] <tizwon> thought this was a help channel :)
[04:05] <bluefusionxl> Hey, I have a problem.  I am going to be hosting people and giving them SSH access.  Problem is, they can read my config files with MySQL passwords in it on my public_html folders.  I chmodded them to 700, and now when I go to my forum or something it said permission denied.  How do I lock them in their own directory?  I would still like them to be able to use things like nano, lynx, and gcc, but I don't want them to see any
[04:05] <gonniff> In other words, I'd like something like terminal services.
[04:05] <gonniff> :)
[04:05] <Crippy-Boy> ssinghi: Broken, Sorry i was being an idjit :-)
[04:05] <ssinghi> oh, i see
[04:05] <xe||> bluefusionxl: you could chusr or chgrp the public_html folder to the www-user
[04:05] <bluefusionxl> tiz, we don't believe in helping people.  That's for noobs.
[04:05] <bluefusionxl> j/k
[04:05] <der0b> then you'll want to configure the vnc server or an nxserver.  if you want to leave yourself logged in upstairs and connect to your desktop, just install x11vnc
[04:05] <ssinghi> Crippy-Boy, thanks, how can I revert back?
[04:06] <Rico> good point - is there a remote desktop server implemntation for ubuntu?
[04:06] <tizwon> Better question, does anyone know how to install .pcf font files? so they will be available to use????
[04:06] <xe||> !vnc
[04:06] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:06] <xe||> !freenx
[04:06] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:06] <bluefusionxl> nice link
[04:06] <Crippy-Boy> ssinghi: im not sure if you can easily without just reinstalling.
[04:06] <bluefusionxl> !chroot
[04:06] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:06] <der0b> thanks xe||
[04:07] <GTX> how do I dial into a VPN on Ubuntu?
[04:07] <bluefusionxl> Hey, I have a problem.  I am going to be hosting people and giving them SSH access.  Problem is, they can read my config files with MySQL passwords in it on my public_html folders.  I chmodded them to 700, and now when I go to my forum or something it said permission denied.  How do I lock them in their own directory?  I would still like them to be able to use things like nano, lynx, and gcc, but I don't want them to see any
[04:07] <Rico> ...
[04:07] <erUSUL> !repeat
[04:07] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:07] <gonniff> bluefusionxl, thanks for the suggestion of setting autologin. As it's a home box, not a bad idea.
[04:08] <bluefusionxl> gon, no problem.
[04:08] <mike8901_> When I'm following the nvidia drivers guide, I get nvidia-glx: Conflicts: nvidia-settings but 1.0-3ubuntu7 is to be installed
[04:08] <mike8901_> E: Broken packages
[04:08] <mike8901_>  as an error
[04:08] <mike8901_> anyone know why?
[04:08] <Rico> gonniff: the problem is, as mentioned, vnc required the pc to be logged in while remote desktop (as in Windows) will take over a session for you
[04:08] <bluefusionxl> gon, I don't know of any other way..  Someone said there was a VNC for X, you could try that
[04:08] <gonniff> der0b, I'm not familiar with nxserver. Is that a Linux/Ubuntu thing?
[04:08] <Rico> so i was wondering if there was an implementation of RDP
[04:08] <EmxBA> anyone had experience with via xorg drivers?
[04:08] <Abst> Does anyone know how I can make it so rhythmbox stops launching when I do Shift (character above ,)
[04:09] <knoppMythNewbie> Can anybody help with my user problem?
[04:09] <gonniff> How involved would configuring the VNC server be to allow true remote desktop like terminal services?
[04:09] <der0b> gonniff: I believe nx is cross platform
[04:09] <der0b> !freenx > gonniff
[04:09] <bluefusionxl> What do you need help with?
[04:09] <EmxBA> knoppMythNewbie: what?
[04:09] <marsje> Hi all. I installed Ubuntu 6.06 and now I want to try out xfce. So I used Synaptic to install Xubuntu-desktop. But now how do I use it (so it starts with xfce)?
[04:10] <mike8901_> When I'm following the nvidia drivers guide, I get nvidia-glx: Conflicts: nvidia-settings but 1.0-3ubuntu7 is to be installed
[04:10] <mike8901_> anyone know why?
[04:10] <mike8901_> er, how to fix it rather
[04:10] <mike8901_> I'm running 6.06
[04:10] <knoppMythNewbie> I've worked out mounting to a remote machine.  But the usernames have different userids, so I don't have permissions on the remote machine.
[04:10] <Crippy-Boy> Anyone have any luck running Macromedia/Adobe stuff in wine? (Flash and dreamweaver) Im toying with the idea of scrapping win all together but i need flash and dw for college
[04:10] <knoppMythNewbie> I'm trying to mount a remote fileshare...  but I don't have permissions to access the remote share.  I've the same username on both machines, but, the userids are different.  That is, on the remote machine user name joeuser has userid 501, but on the local machine, user joeuser has user id 1000.  Hence when joeuser (1000) tries to connect, the remote thinks 1000 doesn't have permission to access 501.  How do I either get the u
[04:10] <knoppMythNewbie> When I was all mandrake, which has a root user, I simply deleted joeuser and created joeuser specifying a userid.  But on ubuntu, joeuser is the first, and only user.  I fear deleting it, for fear that I'll lose root priveleges.
[04:11] <gonniff> der0b, thanks for that heads up. I'll check that out. bluefusionxl's suggestion of just setting it to login at boot was a good on, too. Would be the simplest answer.
[04:11] <Otacon22> help me! i have update all system with other repositorys but now i have all in english, buti want in italian!!! how can i converto all? i rember that there were a packet that do it
[04:11] <Abst> knoppMythNewbie: Basically you want to enable root?
[04:11] <erUSUL> !localeconf > Otacon22
[04:11] <GTX> How can I setup a VPN Server on a Ubuntu Server, I want to be able to make my ip different using VPN. I've had a look around on the net, but all the guides seem complex. Is their an easy way Im missing?
[04:12] <knoppMythNewbie> I can sudo, I understand ubuntu doesn't actually have a user called root.
[04:12] <Abst> knoppMythNewbie: It does, want me to tell you how to enable it?
[04:12] <Crippy-Boy> sudo passwd root?
[04:12] <laimismilas> kalba kas nors lietuviskai
[04:12] <knoppMythNewbie> Abst: yes
[04:12] <Otacon22> what a fuck is that?
[04:12] <erUSUL> knoppMythNewbie: are you using nfs?
[04:12] <Abst> Join #abst
[04:12] <erUSUL> !language
[04:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:12] <erUSUL> !localeconf
[04:12] <ubotu> localeconf: debconf interface to locale configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.1 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 196 kB
[04:13] <bobby123> !language
[04:13] <erUSUL> !locales
[04:13] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:13] <erUSUL> Otacon22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:13] <bobby123> can anyone help me with remote X?
[04:14] <bobby123> i want to connect to my system using xmanager from outside
[04:14] <shadowhywind> i have one more question for the day, My linux will randomly freeze after boot up and before hte login screen, just showing a black screen I think it might be freezeing at the saving vera file any ideas?
[04:14] <bobby123> Xdmcp protocol
[04:14] <GTX> How can I setup a VPN Server on a Ubuntu Server, I want to be able to make my ip different using VPN. I've had a look around on the net, but all the guides seem complex. Is their an easy way Im missing?
[04:14] <bobby123> ??
[04:14] <erUSUL> shadowhywind: take a look at the logs (/var/log)
[04:15] <erUSUL> !vpn
[04:15] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[04:15] <shadowhywind>  which log?
[04:15] <erUSUL> shadowhywind: messages and syslog
[04:16] <Boglizk> Anyone know a program to create a list of numbers? (kindof like a wordlist)
[04:16] <erUSUL> Boglizk: what kind of list? random numbers?
[04:17] <Boglizk> erUSUL: All possibilities of the numbers 1-5
[04:18] <ssinghi> Crippy-Boy, is there any way I can just bring up the network?
[04:18] <erUSUL> Boglizk: yo need a list of the natural numbers between 1 and 5 say 1 2 3 4 5 ??
[04:18] <bobby123> !x
[04:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:18] <crashd> Boglizk: could write a quick shell/perl script
[04:18] <crashd> erUSUL: i guess he means all the permutations of the numbers
[04:19] <crashd> ie: 1, 12, 123, 1234, 12345, 13, 14
[04:19] <crashd> and so on
[04:19] <Boglizk> uhm..
[04:19] <crashd> or just a list of the natural numbers, you might be right
[04:19] <Boglizk> Yesh i think thats it
[04:19] <shadowhywind> theres no errors in the message or syslog files
[04:20] <mookid> what's the Dreamweaver/GoLive of the linux world?
[04:20] <shadowhywind> bluefish
[04:20] <Boglizk> The list should range from 11111 to 99999 if that explains it better
[04:21] <crashd> ok, so all the permutations of 5 digit numbers including the digits 0-9?
[04:21] <Boglizk> Yeah
[04:21] <quiet> Quanta, more so than bluefish i think.
[04:21] <Nep8750> !ubuntu-standard edgy
[04:21] <ubotu> ubuntu-standard: The Ubuntu standard system. In component main, is standard. Version 1.23 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[04:21] <quiet> you can run Dreamweaver inside of Crossover Office though.
[04:24] <grimboy> Right, a question. How do I run a script so that when I run it with X started up it continues running after it closes X. Is this the default behaviour or will the script just end up killing itsself.
[04:24] <grimboy> ?
[04:24] <quiet> run it in screen.
[04:24] <ketsugi> after I've run a command using `command &`, how do I reactivate it later?
[04:24] <probono> hi all, where can i submit a bug about the live cd?
[04:25] <bobby123> wht bug is it?
[04:25] <grimboy> ketsugi, fg
[04:25] <quiet> ketsugi: if you used &... then it continues running, until you kill it.
[04:25] <bobby123> @ probono
[04:25] <probono> bobby123, loop-mount doesn't work on the live cd
[04:25] <Coco_liso> hi
[04:25] <bobby123> go to ubuntu bugs page
[04:25] <bobby123> !bug
[04:25] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <trygg> Hm, how can i access my usb-mp3player? :)
[04:26] <Coco_liso> what is freenode? it is free?
[04:26] <grimboy> quiet, So do I have to start x in screen then?
[04:26] <Boglizk> trygg: I think you'll have to mount it
[04:27] <Boglizk> Not sure though..
[04:27] <erUSUL> Boglizk:  python -c 'print range( 11111 ,99999)'
[04:27] <trygg> Yes, how do i know which /dev/* it is? :)
[04:27] <grimboy> trygg, Has it shown up on the desktop?
[04:27] <probono> thanks
[04:27] <Coco_liso> bye
[04:27] <grimboy> trygg, ls /dev/sd* might work
[04:27] <ravenous> trygg: check dmesg when you plug it in for an 'sdb' device
[04:27] <quiet> grimboy: no.
[04:27] <Boglizk> erUSUL: Anyway you could print it in a .txt ?
[04:28] <bobby123> Boglizk hello
[04:28] <Boglizk> Hello, bobby123
[04:28] <erUSUL> Boglizk:  python -c 'print range( 11111 ,99999)' > file.txt
[04:28] <Boglizk> erUSUL: Thanks
[04:28] <grimboy> quiet, So I have a script, start up screen kill X do some stuff then start X? Would that work?
[04:29] <quiet> grimboy: you know what screen is, yes?
[04:29] <guille> Somebody now what packages are necessaries for opengl?
[04:29] <guille> Somebody know what packages are necessaries for opengl?
[04:30] <quiet> grimboy: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen
[04:30] <Nep8750> !opengl
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:30] <ravenous> you need to install the correct video drivers for your card to enable opengl
[04:30] <grimboy> quiet, Thanks.
[04:30] <Nep8750> ravenous: when thats said you mean in the x config right?
[04:32] <ravenous> Nep8750: dont quite understand the question, but x windows needs the drivers installed that support opengl to work
[04:34] <guille> I'm begining to read the red book of opengl, I writte an exampleOpenGl.c but I receive some errors.
[04:34] <ravenous> guille: what kind of video card?
[04:34] <salim> hi everybody, I've question concerning Ubuntu of course - why is there ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu? can't I use KDE, Gnome and XFCE all in one distribution?
[04:35] <Boglizk> salim: Yes
[04:35] <salim> that means during logging in, cant I chose with which desktop I want to start? whether I want to use gnome or kde or xfce today?
[04:35] <quiet> salim: it's all the same distro.
[04:35] <Boglizk> salim: Yes you can
[04:35] <salim> oh I can
[04:35] <salim> but why then are there different projects?
[04:35] <Boglizk> saim: Ubuntu comes with Gnome by default though, and so on
[04:35] <quiet> salim: just different CDs... to keep it to 1 disc... easy for people to install/use/understand who are new to linux.
[04:36] <davin> salim: so you dont have to install extra stuff
[04:36] <ravenous> less clutter on a machine with only one DE, i.e. why have all the gnome apps on xubuntu when you wont use them
[04:36] <quiet> when people come from Windows, they don't really understand the idea of different desktop environments or window managers.
[04:36] <salim> oh but I can install the others without any problems right? and there are no other differences except whether its gnome or kde or...
[04:36] <davin> salim: if you want an other dm
[04:36] <Boglizk> I have GNOME, Xfce and Fluxbox on my Ubuntu
[04:36] <Boglizk> No problems at all
[04:36] <davin> salim: yeah, you can install xubuntu-desktop for xfce, kubuntu-desktop for kde and ubuntu-desktop for gnome on any ubuntu distro
[04:37] <salim> I see
[04:37] <guille> ravenous, I have a 82865G Integrated Graphic Device
[04:37] <ravenous> salim: your menus will get cluttered but thats about it .. gnome menu starts showing kde apps and vice-versa
[04:37] <Boglizk> I installed Xfce insted of xubuntu-desktop though
[04:37] <Boglizk> :p
[04:37] <salim> but the icon design is different, isnt it?
[04:37] <davin> salim: itll add a new session for when you log in
[04:37] <knoppMythNewbie> Abst: the problem's with a mandrake machine, but that's a good start.  Thanks
[04:37] <knoppMythNewbie> Abst: thanks for the other stuff too
[04:37] <Abst> Mischan and okay
[04:38] <ravenous> your usplash will change also with a new *-desktop install as well but its easy to set back
[04:38] <salim> ok and just one another question before downloading ubuntu (although I plan to use either KDE or XFCE ;-) I rather want ubuntu and not kubuntu to boot :-D) - can I write in japanese? scim for example, on X11, openoffice, Qt-Applications, and so on...
[04:38] <davin> ravenous: only when you delete the others right?
[04:38] <quiet> i prefer serengeti usplash :)
[04:39] <guille> ravenous, I have a 82865G Integrated Graphic Device
[04:39] <ravenous> davin: no you dont have to delete them to change it back
[04:39] <ravenous> guille: what brand i mean
[04:39] <davin> ravenous: kk
[04:39] <AUSriff79> heya there peoples, quick question - I want to try my hand at the compiz/xgl desktop, but all I have spare is a Nvida GeForce MX 440Se(64mb) and a ATI Radeon 9200SE(128mb) would any of these suffice?
[04:40] <frojnd> I have one q
[04:40] <frojnd> I formated partition in to ext3
[04:40] <frojnd> and now I cant' mount it...
[04:41] <frojnd> how can I mount it that I could use it?
[04:41] <ravenous> !mount
[04:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:41] <frojnd> i have kubuntu
[04:41] <quiet> frojnd: have you rebooted?
[04:41] <salim> another important question: is in ubuntu UTF-8 standard? for example filenames and so on
[04:41] <danrez> anyone knows if ubuntu livecd supports DWL-G520 wireless card??? it's based on atheros chipset
[04:42] <frojnd> quiet yes
[04:42] <quiet> yes.. livecd supports ath
[04:42] <Bobneu> Is there a way to remove in dpkg uninstalled package ?
[04:42] <jesus> Hello
[04:42] <danrez> quiet: but how could I configure params like ESSID ?
[04:42] <guille> ravenous, It is a Intel Corp. product.
[04:42] <Dremth> when i load ubuntu on my computer, it wont connect to my wireless connection
[04:42] <quiet> danrez: in the network configuration applet/
[04:43] <ryctor> dhclient wlan0
[04:43] <ravenous> guille: it should have opengl running by default then, mine does on a fresh install with my intel so i have no clue there
[04:43] <Bobneu> Dremth : do you use wpa ?
[04:43] <salim> nobody answers my questions...
[04:43] <danrez> quiet: and it saves the config on floppy or something ?
[04:43] <Dremth> i think
[04:43] <Dremth> what exactly is wpa?
[04:43] <quiet> danrez: no.. it saves it in rm
[04:43] <quiet> ram
[04:43] <Bobneu> the encpyption key WEP , WPA etc...
[04:43] <Dremth> oh
[04:43] <Dremth> no
[04:43] <danrez> quit: so if I reboot i lost these config ?
[04:43] <quiet> of course.
[04:44] <danrez> is there anyway to make this default ??
[04:44] <danrez> sorry my stupid questions.. i'm starting with livecds and wireless =(
[04:44] <ravenous> nothing saves on the livecd, so no
[04:44] <quiet> dunno.. i don't run the livecd for daily operations.. that's silly.
[04:44] <guille> ravenous, when I compile the example.c I recieved an error: no exist glut.h
[04:44] <Bobneu> Is there a way to remove in dpkg uninstalled package ?
[04:44] <danrez> quit: it's for non-HD computers
[04:45] <danrez> *quiet
[04:45] <ravenous> guille: that has do more likely with your programming than with opengl, i have no experience with that
[04:45] <danrez> diskless
[04:45] <quiet> Harley-Davidson makes computers?
[04:45] <danrez> i'm trying thinstation but without success
[04:45] <quiet> :P
[04:45] <w1w1t0m1> hello, I have installed apache2 and php5 module but I can run php scripts just in dcument root, in other folders (nested) aren't php scripts interpreted ...can anybody help?
[04:45] <danrez> quiet: do u have any idea ?
[04:45] <guille> I supose that I need install some packages... but I don't know wich ones.
[04:45] <billybennett> Anyone here familar with gnome-network-manager?
[04:45] <Cheveux> hello, when i start ubuntu i have the login sound but as soon as ubuntu is fully loaded i have no sound anymore does anyone knoe what might be the problem?
[04:45] <quiet> danrez: you could make a customized livecd... and perhaps include the configs on there?
[04:46] <lucasvo> danrez: why not use ltsp?
[04:46] <quiet> Cheveux: alsamixer?
[04:46] <guille> there is no problem with the programm.
[04:46] <krpano> hey, how do i search the available wireless connections ?
[04:46] <lucasvo> danrez: and set up a server for it?
[04:46] <danrez> exactly this i would know.. can I customize livecds by MAC address ?
[04:46] <lucasvo> guille: search for glut in synaptic
[04:46] <quiet> krpano: iwlist scan wlan0
[04:46] <danrez> lucasvo: it doesn't have support do dwl-g520
[04:46] <quiet> or whatever your wifi device is.
[04:46] <danrez> lucasvo: only old wireless cards
[04:47] <lucasvo> danrez: oh. you need wireless?
[04:47] <lucasvo> danrez: why should they be diskless?
[04:47] <danrez> stupid admin ideas
[04:47] <metalhedd> I can't get grub to display my splashimage. i've tried manually editing menu.lst and using update-grub and letting it find the image but they both result in 'failed to read image' when I reboot
[04:47] <lucasvo> exchanging the cd drive with a HD would be much better
[04:47] <danrez> he wondered ltsp but now we have to make this with livecds
[04:47] <lucasvo> guille: it's usually either -lib or -dev you need
[04:48] <salim> QUESTION: is ubuntu still "supported" by mark shuttleworth?
[04:48] <quiet> well.. he owns the company... so one would assume so.
[04:48] <salim> supported especially in the meaning of financial
[04:48] <danrez> i will study ubuntu livecd with atheros support... hmmm.. where can I found documentation about customizing livecds ?
[04:48] <Dremth> im trying to connect to my wireless connection that has no encryption key. i activate it and it says its activated and all my settings are correct. ive tried set the ip thing to static and dhcp. i close the network settings thing, and i try to connect to a webpage and it says page cannot be found. i go back to the network settings thing and it says the wireless connection isnt active
[04:48] <ravenous> he owns its parent company so obviously
[04:48] <salim> oh ok
[04:49] <metalhedd> I can't get grub to display my splashimage. i've tried manually editing menu.lst and using update-grub and letting it find the image but they both result in 'failed to read image' when I reboot
[04:49] <guille> lucasvo, I'm installing freeglut3 for development with synaptic.
[04:50] <Dremth> would someone care to help solve my problem
[04:50] <fanta> ger
[04:51] <billybennett> Anyone here familar with gnome-network-manager? for using WPA ?
[04:51] <x_Bella_x> hi
[04:51] <metalhedd> billybennett: I gave up on WPA. if you figure it out, write a howto or something :)
[04:53] <ravenous> well you've got to have wpasupplicant installed at the very least to get it running
[04:53] <gfxstyler> good morning
[04:53] <grimboy> quiet, Thanks for that. Now my head really hurts.
[04:54] <quiet> grimboy: lol.. screen is an indispensable tool once you learn to use it.
[04:54] <gfxstyler> is there a way to get a newer monodevelop without a. upgrading to edgy (right now) or b. compiling it from source (and thus, the dependencies, too) ?
[04:54] <ravenous> gfxstyler: search for a newer .deb on the web thats about the only other option
[04:54] <znh> gfxstyler, yes? why not
[04:54] <Dremth> im trying to connect to my wireless connection that has no encryption key. i activate it and it says its activated and all my settings are correct. ive tried set the ip thing to static and dhcp. i close the network settings thing, and i try to connect to a webpage and it says page cannot be found. i go back to the network settings thing and it says the wireless connection isnt active
[04:55] <visik7> gfxstyler: you could try to backport it from edgy
[04:55] <gfxstyler> znh: i did, but it relies on newer mono packages, too
[04:55] <Ge2X> hey when i try to compile ldc++ i get this error after typing './configure' : no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:55] <stealg> hi guys i need some help i try to install glx in my ati mobility radeon x1300 but i can what a i need to do
[04:55] <Ge2X> how to fix?
[04:55] <gfxstyler> znh, thats why its crashing
[04:55] <ravenous> Ge2X: install build-essential
[04:55] <Ge2X> could u plz tell me how
[04:55] <gfxstyler> visik7, is that easy to do? any tutorials about it or links?
[04:55] <furtive> i installed vncserver but now just can't seem to connect at anything higher than 640x480 and 8 bit.  it appears that xinetd just ignores any of my settings, so much so that I wonder it it's not something else that's running the service.
[04:55] <gfxstyler> visik7, i guess its not an easy thing to do because id have to port all the mono-stuff
[04:56] <ravenous> Ge2X: sudo apt-get install build-essential from console
[04:56] <Ge2X> tnx
[04:56] <Dremth> why will no one answer me??
[04:56] <stealg> hi guys i need some help i try to install glx in my ati mobility radeon x1300 but i can what a i need to do
[04:56] <erikgz> is there a problem with xfontsel in edgy?  (is it being phased out???)
[04:56] <ravenous> nobody knows the answer most likely
[04:56] <gfxstyler> !ati
[04:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:56] <Dremth> .........
[04:56] <ravenous> erikgz: #ubuntu+1 would be a better place to ask
[04:57] <visik7> gfxstyler: you need to put deb-src of edgy into your sources.list and then apt-get source <package>  then apt-get build-dep <package> then cd directory-of-the-package and finally dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[04:57] <furtive> can someone suggest where I should look for how my vncserver is configured?
[04:57] <erikgz> ravenous: thanks
[04:57] <quiet> ~/.vnc
[04:57] <visik7> gfxstyler: this is the short guide
[04:58] <gfxstyler> visik7, and i cant trash my system that way? :)
[04:58] <visik7> no this way create the .deb to be installed with dpkg -i
[04:58] <furtive> quiet: ~/.vnc is a dir and contains my log, my pid and my password ... no config .. can I provide an override in there to set geometry?
[04:59] <gfxstyler> visik7, and if the .deb file sucks i can just install the standard ubuntu dapper one, thats good
[04:59] <visik7> gfxstyler: yes you can
[05:00] <Dremth> about how much space will i need to save my configurations?
[05:00] <quiet> furtive: you set the geometry when you start the server.
[05:00] <gfxstyler> Dremth, a few MB for /etc
[05:00] <quiet> furtive: like.. vncserver -g 1024x768
[05:01] <gfxstyler> and another few for /home without your data
[05:01] <AUSriff79> heya there peoples, quick question - I want to try my hand at the compiz/xgl desktop, but all I have spare is a Nvida GeForce MX 440Se(64mb) and a ATI Radeon 9200SE(128mb) would any of these suffice?
[05:01] <quiet> do vncserver --help
[05:01] <Dremth> ok... and can i save the configurations on something like my psp?
[05:01] <Dremth> will it detect it?
[05:01] <gfxstyler> AUSriff79, yes, they would
[05:01] <Dremth> and install whatever drivers
[05:01] <furtive> quiet : yeah, that's exactly what I want but I don't know where the server is being started from.  I guess I should reboot and see it it starts on it's own.
[05:01] <ravenous> AUSriff79: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl lists the compatible devices
[05:01] <gfxstyler> Dremth, i dont know, just connect it to see if it works
[05:01] <Dremth> ok
[05:02] <rapha> Hi all!
[05:02] <Bobneu> Is there a way in apache2 to change the charset ? I'm displaying some french data coming for mysql and every accent are changed with "japanese" image !
[05:02] <jaytee> someone sent me a link yesterday about how to enable logging into the gui with root priviledges but I lost it. Anyone know where I can find this?
[05:02] <Ferdi> Hi guys..
[05:02] <ravenous> !root > jaytee
[05:02] <bluefusionxl> gon, I don't know of any other way..  Someone said there was a VNC for X, you could try that
[05:02] <cosm0z`> u play ur fooseball, Bobby
[05:02] <rapha> I have a virtual machine (10.0.0.20) on my physical machine (10.0.0.23) and would like to let the VM access the internet temporarily using iptables but can't get it working. Can somebody help me?
[05:03] <bluefusionxl> Hey, I have a problem.  I am going to be hosting people and giving them SSH access.  Problem is, they can read my config files with MySQL passwords in it on my public_html folders.  I chmodded them to 700, and now when I go to my forum or something it said permission denied.  How do I lock them in their own directory?  I would still like them to be able to use things like nano, lynx, and gcc, but I don't want them to see any
[05:03] <AUSriff79> Ravenous - thankyou.
[05:03] <ravenous> np
[05:03] <Otacon22> otacon22@ota:~$ locate
[05:03] <Otacon22> locate: fatal error: Could not find user database '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db':  No such file or directory
[05:04] <Lynoure> bluefusionxl: chroot is the thing to use, there bound to be a howto somewhere...
[05:04] <ravenous> Otacon22: try a sudo updatedb then try locate again
[05:05] <bluefusionxl> Ly, will they still be able to run nano and things for their directory?
[05:06] <ryctor> man chown
[05:06] <Lynoure> bluefusionxl: see http://www.tjw.org/chroot-login-HOWTO/
[05:06] <Harper> hey
[05:06] <Harper> need help getting a printer up and running
[05:06] <Ge2X> i get an error when compiling Can't build without shar
[05:06] <Ge2X> where can i get it?
[05:07] <aoupi> good day all, I'd like to set a static ip on this puter but still recive DNS's through dhcp from my router
[05:07] <Lynoure> bluefusionxl: but I have not used that howto, so no promises
[05:07] <Bobneu> Is there a way in apache2 to change the charset ? I'm displaying some french data coming for mysql and every accent are changed with "japanese" image !
[05:07] <wasabi> aoupi: THe instruct your router to distribute a static IP
[05:08] <Harper> hey guys i need help setting up the Canon i350 Printer
[05:08] <Ge2X> hey what is shar and where can i get it?
[05:08] <thedash> any way to check if lm-sensors is reading correctily?
[05:09] <Abst> How can I disable gdm at startup (so i get console)
[05:10] <Harper> need help installing a new printer
[05:10] <Harper> Canon i350
[05:11] <Harper> i need the drviers
[05:11] <graft> did you try CUPS, Harper?
[05:11] <Harper> and the printer to be shared on a lan
[05:11] <Harper> here's the thing
[05:11] <bluefusionxl> chroot how to, not found
[05:11] <graft> shared over what?
[05:11] <Harper> i have been reading up on it and alot of people have had a really hard time with the i350
[05:11] <aoupi> wasabi: Thanks, found it
[05:11] <bluefusionxl> chroot how to, not found (connection failed)
[05:11] <kozmic> does firefox crash for others on alot of flash sites? mine crash like once an hour, quite annoying :( are there a fix?
[05:12] <Harper> here's why
[05:12] <Harper> adobe only has the flash player 7 out for linux
[05:12] <Lynoure> bluefusionxl: this is for Debian but it should get you started... but if possible, avoid giving shell access to users you do not trust: http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted_ssh_howto_debian
[05:12] <graft> kozmic: yeah that's a known bug... nothing you can do about it
[05:12] <Harper> ok back to my printer
[05:12] <Ferdi> How can I have K-Melon on ubuntu?
[05:12] <Harper> first things gits
[05:12] <graft> Harper: hmm seems it's unsupported, http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-i350
[05:12] <Harper> first*
[05:12] <Harper> what!
[05:13] <mookid> Can I not get wine on ubuntu 64?? :(
[05:13] <jman8888> I feel happy. I had to reset my pc and use windows (Because a lot of mp3 players hate linux) but now i have Ubuntu in vmware :)
[05:13] <Harper> ah!
[05:13] <graft> sorry, man
[05:13] <Harper> how do i print
[05:13] <jman8888> Stupid MTP (Why cant it just be mass storage)
[05:13] <Harper> ok
[05:13] <ryctor> talk about lamedude
[05:13] <Harper> turboprint has the driver for the i350
[05:13] <Harper> i just checked up on it
[05:14] <jman8888> !mtp
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <Harper> but when i run the installation
[05:14] <Harper> it tells me im not the admin
[05:14] <DrSpirograph> hey, can anyone give me a hand with getting a custom usplash going?
[05:14] <Lynoure> bluefusionxl: I could access the first one ( http://www.tjw.org/chroot-login-HOWTO/ ) fine... bad weather, I guess
[05:14] <Harper> but im the only user on the comp
[05:14] <cntb> Harper
[05:14] <Harper> ya?
[05:15] <cntb> linux is strange
[05:15] <Harper> ok im going to download turboprint again
[05:15] <cntb> linux doesnot want to you to use as admin superuser etc
[05:15] <Harper> damn
[05:15] <STORMCHAS3R_> cntb, called sudo my friend
[05:15] <cntb> only when you install things for a short period of time
[05:16] <Harper> but i need to in order to install the stupid turboprint driver
[05:16] <graft> Harper, sudo
[05:16] <Harper> sudo what?
[05:16] <ryctor>  Harper: linux is a clone of an OS called UNIX, which happens to use a root account as the administrator
[05:16] <cntb> sure then you sudo
[05:16] <graft> sudo your install command
[05:16] <Harper> ok
[05:16] <ryctor> dahhh
[05:16] <DocTomoe> Harper: man sudo
[05:16] <STORMCHAS3R_> lol
[05:16] <Harper> lol
[05:16] <Harper> ok
[05:16] <cntb> sudo is short for super user do
[05:16] <Harper> i get it
[05:16] <Raul> how can i install amarok on genom desktop ????
[05:16] <jbroome> !sudo
[05:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:16] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raul, install it?
[05:16] <DocTomoe> Raul: You tried sudo apt-get install amarok?
[05:16] <graft> sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:16] <ramtheus> Question: How does ubuntu mount USB devices? in which file does the mount point is designated? I have a USB external DVD/RW recongnized as /dev/scd0 . The drive appears on the root partition /" as cdrom which is a symbolic link to /media/cdrom which in itself is symlink to /media/cdrom0. I need to map this drive to .wine/dosdvices. Thanks
[05:17] <graft> Raul: it'll install kde-libs as well
[05:17] <Raul> can i get any other site where i can download amarok then install it
[05:17] <DrSpirograph> to replace the default splash screen, should i use a 640x480 or 640x400 image, the docs i've found conflict
[05:17] <aoupi> ramtheus: add it in /etc/fstab, man fstab to get some help on how to ad it
[05:17] <DrSpirograph> whenever i try replacing i end up with a blank screen during boot (except for a cursor blinking in the upper right corner)
[05:18] <ramtheus> aoupi: i know but the fact is that this an acer laptop which already has a drive which is also mounted in fstab as cdrom
[05:19] <ramtheus> in other words i have two drives
[05:19] <ramtheus> drive one is /dev/hdb and th USB is /dev/scd0
[05:20] <fenderfreek> I used to be able to select which screensavers showed up in random mode in Gnome, but now the interface has changed and I can no longer do that. Is there some kind of option to enable that, or do i need to change my version of gnome-screensaver-preferences?
[05:20] <ramtheus> drive /\hdb is mapped in th fstab but the USB is not
[05:21] <aoupi> ramtheus: add scd0 as well, just copy the hdb line and change the hdb part and the mountpoint part
[05:22] <thedash> anybody good with setting up lm-sensors?
[05:22] <ramtheus> aoupi: as a mtterof fat i am playng a DVD on the drive and is mounted but when i look at the file fstab it does not appear. Ubunto must map this drive somewher?
[05:23] <abhinay> how to change the color of windows borders ?
[05:23] <aoupi> ramtheus: enter mount, you will see all mounted devices and their mountpoints
[05:24] <ramtheus> aoupi: ill do that, wait a sec.
[05:25] <jaytee> I've only been using Ubuntu for a couple days now but I think it rocks!!! I've got alot to learn about Linux yet but I'm liking it.
[05:25] <STORMCHAS3R_> jaytee, glad to hear
[05:25] <Raditz> same here
[05:25] <ramtheus> /dev/scd0 on /media/scd0 type udf (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umas
[05:25] <Raditz> just wish i could get java to work on ubuntu
[05:26] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, ?
[05:26] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, did you try easyUbuntu?
[05:26] <ramtheus> should i add this to fstab?
[05:26] <jaytee> I installed it as a dual boot on a pc I've been running Windows Server 2003 and the install went off without a hitch. Toughest part was getting my screen resolution set right.
[05:27] <aoupi> ramtheus: you can copy the hdb line in fstab, and change it to scd0
[05:27] <aoupi> ramtheus: and also change the mountpoint to wherever you like
[05:27] <aoupi> if you don't want it to mount in /media/scd0
[05:28] <Hetauma> hi does any1 know if I can install kubuntu on a core duo proccessor yet ?
[05:28] <aoupi> Hetauma: shouldn't be a problem
[05:28] <ramtheus> <aoupi: th thing is i need both mounted at the same time
[05:28] <aoupi> ramtheus: yes
[05:29] <golan> hi there
[05:29] <mYth[SeNtiX] > hi
[05:29] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, anythoughts
[05:29] <ramtheus> OK I undrestand, let me try
[05:29] <Hetauma> but I read in the wiki that it's a bit of a problem with p965 chipset
[05:29] <golan> can you suggest me a tool to recover files accidentally deleted from an ext3 partition?
[05:29] <mYth[SeNtiX] > is it possible to stop a normal user from seeing processes started by root in ps?
[05:29] <Raditz> thoughts on what?
[05:29] <rukuartic> Hey everyone... I've seen projects around that let you control the LED's on your keyboard... I'm interested in controling the one behind the power button on my laptop. There's a neat setting where it goes orange and breathes (think Macintosh :P) but I can't quite find where it should be in proc... anyone have any ideas?
[05:29] <aoupi> golan: first of all, don't use that HD
[05:29] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, you want java installed right?
[05:29] <Raditz> Yes
[05:29] <golan> aoupi -> yes
[05:29] <Raditz> i tried with apt-get
[05:29] <sysdoc> golan, rlinux
[05:29] <Raditz> but it didn't work
[05:30] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, googe, easyubuntu
[05:30] <Raditz> kk ty
[05:30] <golan> r-linux seem to be only for ext2...
[05:30] <davin> Correct me if Im wrong, all X sessions are maped to the F buttons?
[05:30] <sysdoc> no, ext2 is ext3 but with journaling
[05:30] <jaytee> Does Ubuntu come with it's own compliler? I know that might sound like a dumb questions but I'm a noob.
[05:30] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, np
[05:31] <STORMCHAS3R_> davin, alt-f yes
[05:31] <jbroome> jaytee: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:31] <golan> sysdoc: ok, so I can try with it... do I need a winXP client?
[05:31] <jaytee> thanks jbroome
[05:31] <sysdoc> No
[05:31] <Harper> hey guys im back
[05:31] <davin> STORMSCHAS3R: so whats the default one ?
[05:31] <Harper> ok i just installed turboprint
[05:31] <davin> STORMCHAS3R_: like you turn on the pc, log in, wihch button does it use?
[05:31] <sysdoc> Why would you ask about winxp client?
[05:31] <Snake> Does apt-get log what it installs?
[05:31] <Harper> now what do i do to get my printer up and running
[05:32] <golan> sysdoc: how can I run r-linux? on the home page, it says that it needs a winxp client
[05:32] <STORMCHAS3R_> DaveyJ, alt-F1-F8
[05:32] <Raditz> nice ty STORMCHAS3R_
[05:32] <sysdoc> golan pm me
[05:32] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, quite welcomw
[05:32] <Harper> any ideas on how i can get my printer working once i have turbo print installed
[05:32] <STORMCHAS3R_> davin, alt-F1-F8
[05:32] <davin> STORMCHAS3R_: So im using Alt F1?
[05:33] <Harper> i converted the rpm file to deb using alien
[05:33] <Flamekebab> what's that command for finding where a package is installed
[05:33] <Flamekebab> whereis?
[05:33] <Harper> will that mess up the installation
[05:33] <STORMCHAS3R_> davin, sure
[05:33] <mYth[SeNtiX] > is it possible to stop a normal user from seeing processes started by root in ps?
[05:33] <golan> sysdoc: pm'ed
[05:33] <davin> STORMCHAS3R_: So ill be able to swtich between users on-the-fly using Alt+Fx ?
[05:33] <rukuartic> Flamekebab: whereis <commandname>, but that won't work for package
[05:33] <Snake> Does apt-get log what it installs?
[05:33] <STORMCHAS3R_> davin, is that would you are trying to do?
[05:33] <sysdoc> golan, you have to register your nick to pm someone
[05:34] <Flamekebab> rukuartic, I'm trying to find out where libdv4 is installed
[05:34] <golan> sysdoc: ouch...
[05:34] <davin> STORMCHAS3R_: Yes, Im the only one logged inr ight now, and Id like to log in as another user in another X session leaving this one open and just switching on the fly
[05:34] <sysdoc> Do ya want your data??, lol
[05:34] <rukuartic> Flamekebab: probably /usr/lib
[05:34] <Flamekebab> cheers
[05:34] <sinisterr> !codecs
[05:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <Snake> !apt-get
[05:35] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:35] <Snake> Does apt-get log what it installs?
[05:35] <STORMCHAS3R_> davin, im sorry, its ctrl+alt+ F7 is your current session
[05:35] <bnovc> i tried to install xgl on a friend's computer that just got ubuntu. i installed xgl-server compiz and compiz-gnome and added the appropriate lines to ~/.Xsession but when i try running Xgl i get "no screens found" - i can't find much information about this online, but I guess its because of an incompatible driver?
[05:35] <davin> STORMCHAS3R_: okay, so I can go to ctrl+alt+f1, log in as another user, and just switch between them with ctrl+alt+f1/f7?
[05:36] <jbroome> c-a-f1 isn't going to have a gui desktop
[05:36] <lappy> wheni type 'df' .. i get 'segmentation fault'
[05:36] <Harper> hey guys
[05:36] <sysdoc> there ya go
[05:36] <STORMCHAS3R_> davin, not sure, but never tried it,   do you want x sessions with that user or just shell?
[05:36] <Harper> i just added a new printer
[05:36] <Harper> pressed print page
[05:36] <STORMCHAS3R_> jbroome, is correct
[05:36] <jbroome> i just drank from my coffee cup
[05:36] <golan77> sysdoc: i'm registering...
[05:36] <Raditz> how well does an nVidia FX5700 work with ubuntu?
[05:36] <Harper> now the little light on the printer is flashing
[05:36] <Raditz> or kubuntu
[05:36] <Snake> Does apt-get log what it installs?
[05:36] <Harper> but nothing is coming out
[05:36] <maple1> I just scratched myself
[05:36] <Raditz> cut ur nails
[05:36] <STORMCHAS3R_> wow there is alot of peeps in here
[05:36] <aoupi> Snake: /var/log/dpkg.log
[05:37] <Harper> need help printing something!
[05:37] <Snake> aoupi, Thank you!
[05:37] <Raditz> so far i can't get my FX5700 card to work to well with any distro of linux i've tried
[05:37] <Harper> i installed turboprint
[05:37] <Harper> added the printer
[05:37] <Raditz> anyone have any suggestions (short of getting a new card)
[05:37] <Harper> printing a test page
[05:37] <knapper> Is there a plugin that will allow gnomebaker to burn mp4 files?
[05:37] <beans> hello, I am having issues with my 3d card, everything looks fine but it will run at a very low fps(12 or so) is there a diagnostic tool I could use to see if it is a agpbus/motherboard/hardware issue?
[05:37] <Harper> the printer is detected by ubuntu
[05:37] <sysdoc> golan77, see your pm
[05:38] <Harper> the printer detects ubuntu
[05:38] <golan77> sysdoc: i see it... but you don't see mine :-)
[05:38] <Harper> but i still cant print
[05:38] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz,
[05:38] <STORMCHAS3R_> !nvidia
[05:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:38] <STORMCHAS3R_> Raditz, look at that
[05:38] <Harper> can any one help me?
[05:38] <golan77> sysdoc, just write me a channel to join, and we can go there
[05:38] <rukuartic> Harper: You need to be more specific man. Its like saying, "I have a car but it won't move, whats wrong?"
[05:38] <lappy> when i type 'df' .. i get 'segmentation fault' ...
[05:38] <Flamekebab> I don't suppose anyone has a .deb file for kino 0.9.2?
[05:38] <beans> I have gone through that process ubotu
[05:38] <Harper> ok
[05:39] <Raditz> i've tried that
[05:39] <STORMCHAS3R_> and?
[05:39] <Harper> can i pm anyone?
[05:39] <Raditz> but still get a black screen when kubuntu boots
[05:39] <Raditz> and with every other linux distro i've tried
[05:39] <Raditz> could it be the monitor?
[05:39] <Harper> ok i have the Canon i350
[05:39] <STORMCHAS3R_> possibly
[05:39] <sysdoc> golan77, #sys-doc
[05:39] <Raditz> although my FX5500 works well
[05:39] <rukuartic> Raditz: Did you try using another operating system? Did it work then?
[05:40] <Harper> I just installed the TurboPrint Driver (converted it from rpm to deb using alien)
[05:40] <Raditz> Yes
[05:40] <Raditz> it was in this system
[05:40] <Raditz> and this is my winblowz pc
[05:40] <maple1> windows rocks
[05:40] <Raditz> upgraded this one to a 6600gt
[05:40] <Harper> My printer detects ubuntu since the little light is flashing
[05:40] <Harper> and ubuntu detects my printer
[05:40] <Harper> because i can see it when i added a new printer
[05:41] <Raditz> e Right ack
[05:41] <Harper> it said Canon i350
[05:41] <beans> I am having issues with my 3d card, everything looks fine but it will run at a very low fps(12 or so) is there a diagnostic tool I could use to see if it is a agpbus/motherboard/hardware issue? I have latest drivers/ have reinstalled etc. Same issue in windows and linux
[05:41] <Raditz> ok never mind kid came down by himself
[05:41] <Harper> so i selected it
[05:41] <Harper> and now it said its installed
[05:41] <Koptor> hey guys, got a problem with my cdrom
[05:41] <Harper> but the only thinf is
[05:41] <Harper> i cant print
[05:42] <Raditz> turn the printer off
[05:42] <Raditz> then back on
[05:42] <Harper> i think turboprint did not install the drivers correctly
[05:42] <Bobneu> I'm looking for a good webmail / calendar to use with my postfix server
[05:42] <don_jr> With ubuntu's remote desktop feature, would I be able to log onto another computer on my network and take over it's desktop from my computer?
[05:42] <Harper> ok ill try that
[05:42] <Raditz> if the light is blinking there is something wrong with the printer
[05:42] <Raditz> not the install
[05:42] <Harper> wait no
[05:42] <Koptor> its a scsi cdrom, its not mounting, and when i cd to /dev/scd0 i get no such file or directory
[05:42] <fildo> don_jr:  yes
[05:42] <Harper> when i was using windows the light flashed when it was receiving information
[05:43] <Raditz> odd
[05:43] <fildo> krdc it what u should use to login to other pc's
[05:43] <Harper> under the light it says transfer
[05:43] <fildo> on ur network .
[05:43] <Raditz> i have a canon MP390 and my lights only blink when something is worng
[05:43] <Raditz> like out of ink or paper jam
[05:43] <Harper> interesting
[05:43] <Harper> Raditz
[05:43] <Harper> can i pm you?
[05:43] <Raditz> sorry no
[05:43] <Harper> ok
[05:43] <Raditz> i have them turned off cuz of spam on another network
[05:43] <Harper> ok
[05:43] <Raditz> and only ops, voices, and hops can pm me
[05:44] <Harper> ok
[05:44] <Harper> so anyways
[05:44] <Harper> im going to shut it off
[05:44] <Harper> brb
[05:44] <fildo> Harper: u can run windows drivers in linux
[05:44] <Raditz> e Right ack too gotta get the kid away from the wife
[05:44] <Koptor> anyone have an idea about my cdrom issue?
[05:44] <Harper> fildo, maybe
[05:44] <Harper> did you try wine?
[05:45] <fildo> i use wine to emulate IE for web-dev
[05:45] <fildo> thats bout it
[05:45] <Harper> ok
[05:45] <ramtheus> brb
[05:46] <beans> help? I am having issues with my 3d card, everything looks fine but it will run at a very low fps(12 or so) is there a diagnostic tool I could use to see if it is a agpbus/motherboard/hardware issue? I have latest drivers/ have reinstalled etc. Same issue in windows and linux
[05:46] <Bobneu> I'm looking for a good webmail / calendar to use with my postfix server
[05:46] <fildo> you could manually set it
[05:47] <Harper> ok im going to go buy another printer
[05:47] <fildo> if you had the correct specs of the card
[05:47] <Harper> bye guys
[05:47] <fildo> xorg.conf is ur best friend
[05:47] <fildo> or is it X11. .
[05:47] <fildo> i cant remember
[05:48] <fildo> lol @ harper
[05:48] <ompaul> !enter
[05:48] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:49] <Flamekebab> anyone able to help me getting Kino 0.9.2 up and running?
[05:49] <thedash> I am having a problem with lm-sensors
[05:49] <thedash> it orignally worked fine, updating regularly etc
[05:49] <thedash> but the mobo/cpu temps were reversed
[05:49] <james296> how can I make the mouse cursor on my logon screen the default Human cursor?
[05:50] <Trackilizer> I have a video card with 2 VGA ports, and i also have 2 monitors, and while it works ok in windows, i only have a picture on my left monitor as soon as i log into KDE or Gnome, how do i set it up that both monitors work?
[05:50] <thedash> so I reversed the variables in the /etc/sensors.conf file, and now it doesn't update at all
[05:50] <mYth[SeNtiX] > is it possible to stop a normal user from seeing processes started by root in ps? please
[05:50] <overridex> hi all, i'm having trouble changing my xcursor theme, i've installed a theme in ~/.icons/ and changed ~/.icons/default/index.theme, but it doesn't change the cursor even after logging out and back in... any ideas?
[05:51] <rukuartic> I'm still wondering if there's any way I can set the status of the powerbutton led on my keyboard. If anyone knows a solution, I'd be glad to hear it :)
[05:51] <infidel> !xgl
[05:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:51] <erikgz> i have bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=214449 _exactly_ under Edgy
[05:51] <erikgz> no one seems to know what's going on
[05:51] <rukuartic> mYth[SeNtiX] : http://www.governmentsecurity.org/archive/t3669.html
[05:51] <Bobneu> I'm looking for a good webmail / calendar to use with my postfix server
[05:51] <erikgz> X fonts don't work???
[05:52] <eyequeue> !edgy > erikgz
[05:52] <eyequeue> erikgz, wrong channel
[05:52] <Dremth> im using the ubuntu live cd and i cant write to my hard drive (ntfs) so i need to save my configurations to a removable device. i have it connected and i can write to it and everything... what should i do to save all of my configurations and selected themes and stuff to my removable device??
[05:52] <erUSUL> erikgz: report it in launchpad
[05:52] <ravenous> overridex: in gnome? do you have gcursor installed?
[05:53] <beans> I am having issues with my 3d card, everything looks fine but it will run at a very low fps(12 or so) is there a diagnostic tool I could use to see if it is a agpbus/motherboard/hardware issue? I have latest drivers/ have reinstalled etc. Same issue in windows and linux
[05:53] <Dremth> im using the ubuntu live cd and i cant write to my hard drive (ntfs) so i need to save my configurations to a removable device. i have it connected and i can write to it and everything... what should i do to save all of my configurations and selected themes and stuff to my removable device??
[05:53] <mYth[SeNtiX] > rukuartic isn't there some kind of option installed by default in linux to stop normal users from seeing the processes since i'm not so much into programming?
[05:53] <davin> STORMCHAS3R_: X session
[05:53] <eyequeue> !repeat > Dremth
[05:53] <rukuartic> mYth[SeNtiX] : Just copy the code, paste into a textfile, and type "gcc <filename>"
[05:53] <rukuartic> mYth[SeNtiX] : Google maybe?
[05:54] <mYth[SeNtiX] > ye tried google to no avail
[05:54] <james296> well?
[05:54] <Dremth> oh.. sorry i repeated... mirc gave me a bunch of errors the first time and i didnt know if the message went through
[05:54] <mYth[SeNtiX] > also it seems that site hides even the process from root no?
[05:54] <someusernoob> Dremth: open the file browser, select from the menu 'View" - "Show Hidden Files". When youre in your Home dir you should see all hidden filders, with a . before there name, copy everything to your removable device, if it fits, in there is every single configuration you did
[05:54] <overridex> ravenous: yes, i'm in gnome... don't have gcursor
[05:55] <ravenous> overridex: id reccomend install it, once you have the theme folder under ~/.icons it will show up in the gcursor list and you just select it, next login it should change
[05:56] <Dremth> someusernoob - thanks... what should i do to load those configurations next time? is there something i type at the boot prompt or do i have to copy them to ram when ubuntu is loaded??
[05:57] <sethk> Dremth, I believe that will be remembered.  try it.
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> I just got my Ubuntu Hacks book... Wow there is a lot of cool stuff we can do with Ubuntu
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Jack_Sparrow,  Dremth  just asked a question thats answered in that book.
[05:57] <rukuartic> mYth[SeNtiX] : I don't know. Unless you want to install a rootkit into your system...
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Jack_Sparrow,  first chapter i think. on making the live cd  'persistant' :P
[05:57] <someusernoob> Dremth: i really dont know, what i do know is, that when you install Ubuntu to your hard drive you can copy it anyway, but you can try to copy it to your ram, log out, and log back in, but im not sure it will work
[05:57] <rukuartic> mYth[SeNtiX] : Why do you want to hide the process?
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep that was the first thing I saw there
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> so type in th ewhole hack for him. :P
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> I gotta go run some errands.. and my book is at work.
[05:58] <overridex> ravenous: i'll try that... though i want to know what files it changes because i also need to toggle it with a script
[05:58] <mYth[SeNtiX] > rukuartic: to give acess to other users on the system, and stop them from seeing each others processes
[05:59] <overridex> ravenous: that certainly changes it ;)
[06:00] <sethk> mYth[SeNtiX] , you can stop the users from being able to run ps
[06:00] <mYth[SeNtiX] > how?
[06:00] <sethk> mYth[SeNtiX] , and then create your own ps that shows only processes for the current user
[06:00] <sethk> mYth[SeNtiX] , any process has the x (execute) permission for user, group, and other
[06:01] <mYth[SeNtiX] > ic
[06:01] <sethk> mYth[SeNtiX] , if you do  chmod o-x /bin/ps,  that means that ps can only be run by the owner, and people in the owner's group
[06:01] <sethk> mYth[SeNtiX] , you can also do chmo g-x /bin/ps, and that takes it away from members of the group
[06:01] <sethk> mYth[SeNtiX] , so you can control what programs any user can run
[06:01] <rukuartic> sethk: But then you'd have to knock out top and pstree aswell
[06:01] <sethk> rukuartic, probably not, because they call ps
[06:02] <sethk> rukuartic, but in general, you are right, if there are multiple programs, you have to set up each one
[06:02] <Flamekebab> anyone want to help me on my quest to get Kino to compile?
[06:02] <erUSUL> sethk: top does not call ps afaik (it reads /proc/ )
[06:02] <sethk> rukuartic, you could remove x permission on the /usr/bin or /bin directory  :)
[06:03] <sethk> erUSUL, I'll have to check
[06:03] <rukuartic> sethk: Whee! Now nobody will be able to see _anything_.
[06:03] <neuser> hi folks
[06:03] <Flamekebab> no takers?
[06:03] <sethk> rukuartic, I didn't say you should, only that you could  :)
[06:03] <neuser> has anbody an idea how i can vie and or edit a mov (quicktime) file with ubuntu. it was taken with my photocamera.
[06:03] <sethk> erUSUL, if so, then as I said you would have to change all programs you don't want the user to be able to run.
[06:03] <mYth[SeNtiX] > and regarding the ps which shows only processes for the current user, you need to code that one yourself, i think?
[06:04] <wasabi> neuser: w32codecs is the best chance
[06:04] <rukuartic> sethk: I've always wondered what happens if a normal user runs rm -rf /... its not like they'd delete everything, but some files with +rwx on everyone...
[06:04] <neuser> wasabi: i got them... but i still cant view
[06:04] <wasabi> neuser: Try using mplayer.
[06:04] <sethk> rukuartic, remember that if the user doesn't have x permission on a directory, he can't see files within that directory regardless of permissions
[06:05] <sethk> rukuartic, so it depends.  whatever, the result would definitely be bad  :)
[06:05] <neuser> with mplayer it works... but only if i output too aalib and jpegs or something like that. i want to review it and edit it. i installed kino.
[06:05] <neuser> <- wasabi
[06:05] <ryanakca> what port does msnim run on?
[06:05] <fatbrain> I enabled SMB file-sharing, and when I try to connect to a shared resource (from a winxp machine) it asks for username/password and my regular user/pw doesn't work. Any suggestions?
[06:05] <wasabi> neuser: You'll need to convert it to something else. You can use mplayer to transcode.
[06:05] <wasabi> a normal user running rm -rf / should do nothing except delete that own user's files.
[06:06] <rukuartic> sethk: So you need to have a directory with group/other +w to delete files?
[06:06] <erUSUL> sethk: acording to top man page you can use /etc/toprc to forbid access to top to non priv users
[06:06] <neuser> wasabi: ok, ill try with mencoder
[06:06] <ArgentinoVLC> #ubuntu-es
[06:06] <mYth[SeNtiX] > sethk: and regarding the ps which shows only processes for the current user, you need to code that one yourself, i think?
[06:07] <ryanakca> rukuartic: well... get a floppy based linux (one that runs from the cd) and try it out...
[06:08] <sonium> how can I make nautilus update the preview for images?
[06:08] <juan> OT: what was the huge crop disaster caused by american farmers all using the same type of crop? im using it to explain why linux is needed by everybody
[06:08] <wasabi> sonium: I just delete .thumbnails. THere's probably a better way though.
[06:08] <sonium> kk
[06:08] <sethk> juan, called the "dust bowl"
[06:08] <sethk> juan, in the midwest during the '30s
[06:08] <juan> thx
[06:09] <sonium> wasabi: there is not .thumbnails within the directory of the images
[06:09] <wasabi> It's in your home dir
[06:09] <sethk> juan, strip mining also contributed to it.
[06:10] <wasabi> I find arguments like that tend to, dispite being better for long term success, fall flat for real people.
[06:10] <wasabi> People want to know why they should use LInux *now*.
[06:10] <wasabi> And most people don't care what they use as long as it does the job. ;)
[06:10] <kyle_> because linux > winows :)
[06:10] <sonium> oops... there are also the previews for my deleted pr0n
[06:11] <wasabi> sonium: Nice. ;)
[06:11] <mYth[SeNtiX] > sethk
[06:11] <kyle_> anyone here use irssi?
[06:11] <ChaosFan> yes
[06:11] <ryanakca> kyle_: yes
[06:12] <kyle_> ryanakca: have you used the nicklist script?
[06:12] <ryanakca> kyle_: yes
[06:12] <sethk> mYth[SeNtiX] , have to walk the dog, be back in a few
[06:12] <kyle_> ryanakca: im guessing, it NEEDS to be screened in order to work eh?
[06:12] <mYth[SeNtiX] > k
[06:12] <mYth[SeNtiX] > hf :)
[06:13] <ryanakca> yes, either that or you have two terminal windows open (which is a pain)
[06:13] <kyle_> eww... ok hehe
[06:13] <ryanakca> kyle_: running screen isn't hard... 'screen irssi -n kyle_ -c irc.freenode.net'
[06:14] <kyle_> ryanakca: heh, i know, i was just curious if there was a way for nicklist to run without it, but reading the doc, i guess there isn't.
[06:14] <ryanakca> :)
[06:14] <kyle_> ryanakca: another question if you dont mind - :) heh, do you run gnome?
[06:14] <eyequeue> who runs irssi without screen anyway? :)
[06:15] <ryanakca> kyle_: never... but I have, in the past
[06:15] <kyle_> eyequeue: lol
[06:15] <kyle_> ahh... well does anyone know where i can download some themes or window borders for gnome? the ones that come on a fresh ubuntu install, are horrible.
[06:16] <ravenous> gnome-look.org
[06:16] <eyequeue> !themes
[06:16] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:16] <ryanakca> gnome art... just a sec, I'll get hte link
[06:16] <ryanakca> ravenous types too fast :)
[06:16] <yohan> i just installed azureus but whenever I get a Warning sign it doesnt respond when i click hide...anyone else have this problem?
[06:16] <ravenous> hah
[06:16] <kyle_> eyequeue, ryanakca: thanks.
[06:16] <superposi> nas
[06:16] <superposi> #ubuntu-es
[06:16] <superposi> sorry
[06:17] <ryanakca> what port does Microsoft Network Instant Messenger (aka msn) run on?
[06:17] <Rondom> yohan: IIRC this is a know problem
[06:17] <mike8901_> what package do I install to get QT working?
[06:17] <andresmujica> installing themes is too hard... it should be a matter of point n click...
[06:17] <ravenous> yohan: i think thats a bug, i dont use it but ive heard alot of ppl complain about it
[06:17] <ravenous> andresmujica: it is
[06:17] <yohan> Rondom: is there a fix for it?
[06:17] <Rondom> yohan: I'm running edgy atm and it is fixed
[06:17] <Rondom> yohan: if it isn't fixed in dapper, there isn't
[06:17] <mike8901_> libqt4-core?
[06:17] <Rondom> yohan: I thought it was fixed in dapper
[06:18] <wojtek> hi everybody
[06:18] <wojtek> Can somebody help me with my I915 graphic card ? :)
[06:19] <ravenous> what about it
[06:19] <yohan> Rondom: edgy?
[06:19] <yohan> im using dapper
[06:19] <echogen> i have installed ubuntu 6 on my wifi enabled laptop.... the card is identified and everything seems to work fine, but i cannot connect to ...any ideas ?
[06:19] <Psychobudgie> you using wpa on your router echogen ?
[06:19] <wojtek> I have trouble to get it to work in fullscreen when I will play a game in 800x600 resolution
[06:19] <echogen> no ... wep
[06:20] <tuna_> heres a dumb question about ubuntu/linux in general: If I use a script that has to, in order to work, constantly create and almost instantly delete really small files, with literally billions of iterations, will this utterly screw up the hd like in windows or will all the files just stay in the cache and be deleted from there?
[06:20] <Psychobudgie> dunno then
[06:20] <Rondom> yohan: yes, I know. I have had the same problem, but stopped using azureus, that's why I didn't know if it's fixed yet. I've just tried in edgy and the problem didn't occur
[06:20] <echogen> when i type iwconfig it gives me the eth1 as wireless card, and in gnome it says that wireless lan is connected
[06:20] <yohan> ah
[06:21] <nofrey> I upgraded from Hoary to Dapper; my USB stopped working. Even after modprobe ohci-hcd my Trackball is not in /proc/bus/input/devices
[06:22] <kyle_> how do i find out if im running gtk1+ or 2+
[06:22] <kyle_> =P
[06:22] <jamesarthur> how do I install WINE?
[06:23] <eyequeue> !wine > jamesarthur
[06:23] <burk> jamesarthur, you google for "installing wine ubuntu"
[06:23] <eyequeue> tuna, use reiserfs for that
[06:24] <tuna> thanks
[06:24] <kyle_> eyequeue: how do i figure out which gtk im running. 1x or 2x
[06:26] <eyequeue> kyle_, dpkg -l libgtk | grep ^ii
[06:27] <niroxx> test123
[06:27] <kyle_> eyequeue: No packages found matching libgtk.
[06:27] <eyequeue> kyle_, apparently dpkg and dlocate handle wildcards differently
[06:27] <eyequeue> kyle_, dpkg -l libgtk* | grep ^ii
[06:29] <kyle_> eyequeue: reason i ask, i downloaded a theme from gnome-look, and tried to install it by dragging the .tar.gz file to theme manager, and it says the file type is not valid
[06:29] <GStubbs43> Hey, does anybody know how to get mp3's to play with Audacious? I can play them with other programs, but I can only play *.wma with Audacious Media Player. I'm using 1.1.2
[06:29] <keezzz> test
[06:30] <ravenous> GStubbs43: i think audacious uses the xine backend, might need libxine-extracodecs
[06:30] <Koptor> hey, having trouble with my cdrom, its a scsi cdrom, its not mounting, and when i cd to /dev/scd0 i get no such file or directory, any ideas?
[06:31] <GStubbs43> Thanks ravenous, I'll try that.
[06:31] <fatbrain> How can I get ubuntu to write to ntfs disks?
[06:31] <ravenous> !ntfs
[06:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:31] <ravenous> er
[06:31] <rukuartic> Koptor: /dev/scd0 isn't a directory, so you can't CD to it :P its like trying cd /home/username/webpage.html
[06:31] <ravenous> !fuse
[06:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:31] <fatbrain> ravenous: thanks
[06:31] <Koptor> oh ok, i see..
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> fatbrain: Not a good idea
[06:32] <rukuartic> Koptor: Try, "sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom"
[06:33] <Koptor> "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist"
[06:33] <rukuartic> Koptor: try "cd /dev", "ls | grep cd"
[06:34] <GStubbs43> hmm... That didn't work ravenous
[06:34] <Koptor> all I see is ptycd and ttycd
[06:34] <rukuartic> Koptor: Well it doesn't even see scd0, so you can't mount what doesn't exist :P You have it plugged in and configured right?
[06:35] <rukuartic> Koptor: Well not configured...
[06:35] <Koptor> its plugged in, and I installed off it, it was automatically put in the fstab so I assumed it should work..
[06:35] <Flamekebab> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23078 - any help on getting around this?
[06:35] <rukuartic> Koptor: Odd...
[06:35] <SurfnKid> bark bark
[06:35] <kyle_> hrm.. how do i scroll up in irssi, text that has already passed in the channel
[06:35] <ChaosFan> kyle_: page up and page down
[06:35] <PhilKC> kyle_ PageUp
[06:35] <echogeno> back
[06:35] <rukuartic> kyle_: page up?
[06:36] <Koptor> and yeah, it sees the 2 SCSI hard drives on the same SCSI controller
[06:36] <Homer> xgl actually works frecken great on intergrated graphics
[06:36] <kyle_> ty :)
[06:36] <kyle_> lol
[06:36] <rukuartic> Koptor: Could you paste me the contents of /dev on pastebin?
[06:36] <echogeno> the strange thing is that if i log to the router from my window box, i see that my linux machine is connected
[06:36] <kozmico> Homer:  yeah, im amazed aswell. Actually speeds up my laptop
[06:37] <echogeno> but if i ping the router from my laptop... it say: network unreachable
[06:37] <rukuartic> kozmico, Homer: I love XGL, but it doesn't quite work correctly. I can't switch desktops and modifying keys don't quite work (eg, transparency = alt, 5)
[06:37] <Koptor> rukuartic: no idea how, its ubuntu server, and I cant install anything to give me remote access because installing build-essential is asking for the cdrom
[06:37] <Homer> it's still being worked on I guess
[06:37] <rukuartic> Koptor: Are you connected through a network?
[06:37] <neuser> ok, got to go
[06:37] <lostinc> Can anyone help me get  a joystick working?
[06:37] <Koptor> yeah
[06:38] <rukuartic> Koptor: Hold up... Do you know how to use a lot of commandline tools?
[06:38] <echogeno> heh .... how can i change my ip address to ipv4 instead of ipv6 ?
[06:38] <kozmico> im using aixgl,running intel graphiccard so.. so far so good
[06:39] <Koptor> rukuartic: not really, id have no idea about setting up filesharing and stuff
[06:39] <rukuartic> Koptor: Use w3m to find a /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <rukuartic> Koptor: Naw its not filesharing.
[06:39] <Koptor> heh, and how would I do that
[06:39] <rukuartic> !autosource
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autosource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <rukuartic> Adur.... where is that thing...
[06:39] <rukuartic> !easysource
[06:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:39] <transgress_> i'm having some strange behavior from my ALPS touchpad... and i've tried some of the fixes for it but it is still acting weird... anyone know anything about them?
[06:39] <rukuartic> There we go.
[06:40] <rukuartic> Koptor: go to that URL that ubotu just pasted, I'll help you once you've got a sources.list
[06:40] <finalbeta> Looking for a partition manager.
[06:40] <rukuartic> Koptor: Wait, type in this "w3m http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic"
[06:40] <kingrayray> do you have to use kcontrol to configure teh appearance of qt apps?
[06:41] <ravenous> finalbeta: gparted
[06:42] <Homer> http://ibackups.net/
[06:43] <transgress_> sorry had to run... anyone had any luck getting their alps touchpad to work completely properly?
[06:43] <transgress_> when i click it starts to act a little funny.  like if i click on a close button, i have to move the mouse before it will close
[06:44] <transgress_> or if i try to click and drag i usually have to click twice then click and hold a third time to do it
[06:44] <Koptor> rukuartic: I've got a sources.list generated, what do I do to save it?
[06:45] <Neo8750> i'll ask here since #ubuntu-xgl didn't answer
[06:45] <Neo8750> what excatly will aiglx do for me?
[06:45] <Neo8750> because i got it installed but only differnce i see is its a little slower and i lose my title bar and ablity to change window size
[06:48] <andyschmitz> Quick question: What's the difference between alsa drivers that begin with snd_ and those that don't? (Eg. snd_atiixp and atiixp)
[06:48] <andyschmitz> (I'd check the alsa site, but it's down right now)
[06:49] <transgress_> god i wish i could just go back to what my mouse was like before breezy... the nice simple no scroll on the side... no configuration... just click and move...
[06:50] <Denyerec> You probably get this a lot, but what the absolute simplest FTP server to set up if I wish to allow someone to temporarily have FTP access to a subdirectory on my server?
[06:51] <Denyerec> I just finished reading a How-To on ProFTPd
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Denyerec,  actually we dont get that a lot. :P
[06:51] <kozmico> i installed the mozilla vlc plugin, but now i want to switch back to mplayer. i reinstalled the mozilla-mplayer package, but firefox still uses vlc. anyone know how i fix this?
[06:51] <Denyerec> But it doens't quite fit what I want to do and I'm not smart enough to figure out how to mold that to my needs.
[06:51] <Bazzi> Denyerec. there's a GUI app for that in ubuntu as well
[06:52] <Bazzi> don't remeber its name though
[06:52] <dragonriot> ls
[06:53] <Denyerec> I tried the gproftpd from the HowTo
[06:53] <Denyerec> but apt-get complained it couldn't find it
[06:55] <christian> ./flashplayer -installer
[06:55] <christian> is that right?
[06:57] <fatbrain> !samba
[06:57] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !gproftpd
[06:58] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[06:58] <Denyerec> Ah
[06:58] <Denyerec> Breezy here
[06:59] <Denyerec> Not touching dapper until I have 2 weeks tpspare.
[06:59] <Denyerec> *to spare
[06:59] <IRC_> i purchased a new flatscreen monitor. my old monitor was 1152x864. how do i get xorg to update for my new monitor?
[06:59] <Denyerec> I suck with all things linux and can't afford to break my server
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Denyerec: Did you enable universe in your repo
[06:59] <Denyerec> checkin now
[06:59] <Denyerec> I think so
[06:59] <earthian> hello
[06:59] <earthian> how can i generate a new initrd
[06:59] <earthian> ?
[07:00] <earthian> with dmraid thingy
[07:00] <IRC_> i purchased a new flatscreen monitor. my old monitor was 1152x864. how do i get xorg to go to 1280x1024 for my new monitor?
[07:00] <PingunZ> I need help restoring grub to my mbr on sda2
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > PingunZ
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > IRC_
[07:01] <earthian> !help > earthian
[07:01] <earthian> :o
[07:01] <dragonriot> earthian: you need to mkinitramfs now... mkinitrd is kinda depreciated?
[07:01] <IRC_> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:01] <bluefox83> hey..are there any linux "Access" databases?
[07:01] <earthian> well i do not know exactly.. never did it before
[07:02] <Denyerec> Jack_Sparrow I don't see universe...
[07:02] <dragonriot> I'm questioning that because I'm not sure, but I know that mkinitramfs does the initrd as well
[07:02] <earthian> installed ubuntu with debootstrap
[07:02] <fyrestrtr> bluefox83: 'Base' from the OO family of tools.
[07:02] <Denyerec> wait
[07:02] <Denyerec> yes I do
[07:02] <Denyerec> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu   Breexy Universe
[07:02] <earthian> !next release
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about next release - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <earthian> mh
[07:03] <Denyerec> !gproftpd breezy
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd breezy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <Denyerec> !gproftpd
[07:03] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> !info gproftpd breezy
[07:03] <ubotu> Package gproftpd does not exist in breezy
[07:03] <Denyerec> ffs
[07:03] <fyrestrtr> :)
[07:03] <Denyerec> Anyone know an alternative ?
[07:03] <ZeeToo> how can i delete my logs ?
[07:03] <Denyerec> or whether I can safely install it from a dapper repo?
[07:04] <earthian> !info proftpd
[07:04] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[07:04] <earthian> hm
[07:04] <Denyerec> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249634
[07:04] <Denyerec> :/
[07:05] <earthian> i installed it :D
[07:05] <earthian> i think u need to enable more repositories
[07:05] <infidel> what init is console
[07:06] <tuxlifan> Where the fsck does xfce4 store it's configuration in Dapper? I just upgraded from Hoary and my panel plus taskbar are gone. I NEED them back by tomorrow!
[07:06] <Ch1p_L> Hi, my alsa drivers are frakked,  sound is low and _bad_. any   suggestions?
[07:07] <luisbg> I made a dist-upgrade and now the sound doesn't work, in the sound icon at the top panel a have a red x and when I click on it, it says... "No volume control Gstreamer plugins and/or devices not found"
[07:07] <Denyerec> earthian can you identify which breezy repo you got gproftpd from ?
[07:07] <earthian> dapper <3
[07:07] <ravenous> tuxlifan: probably .xfce or some similar hidden directory in your home dir
[07:07] <earthian> :/
[07:07] <Denyerec> Ac
[07:07] <luisbg> plus in the system preferences -> audio ... there is no sound card to choose from
[07:07] <Denyerec> I already plainly pointed out I don't have time to use Dapper and risk breaking everything
[07:07] <ravenous> !sound
[07:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:08] <killown>  exact error that occured. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.
[07:08] <killown> configure: error: "Cannot find glib" anyone help -me?
[07:08] <Denyerec>  ijkl, c
[07:08] <ravenous> killown: probably dont have the glib devs installed
[07:08] <Denyerec> !info any ftp gui
[07:08] <ubotu> Package any does not exist in dapper
[07:08] <Denyerec> !info any ftp gui at all
[07:08] <ubotu> Package any does not exist in dapper
[07:08] <Denyerec> !info anything at all
[07:08] <ubotu> Package anything does not exist in dapper
[07:08] <Denyerec> !info please help me cos dapper is not an option
[07:08] <ubotu> Package please does not exist in dapper
[07:09] <tuxlifan> ravenous: it used to be .config/xfce4/, but my .../panel/contents.xml there just gets ignored. .xfce* does not exist
[07:09] <baggins> hi. does anyone know how to get Helvetica as the default application font in the gnome desktop. xfontsel has it listed, but System->Preferences->Font does not.
[07:09] <killown> ravenous, how I get it in apt-get?
[07:09] <luisbg> d33p@selene:~$ alsamixer
[07:09] <luisbg> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:10] <erUSUL> !sound
[07:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:10] <Denyerec> !linux
[07:10] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[07:10] <baggins> !font
[07:10] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[07:10] <Denyerec> !breezy
[07:10] <ubotu> breezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"
[07:10] <luisbg> d33p@selene:~$ aplay
[07:10] <luisbg> ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[07:10] <Denyerec> !breezy repository list
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about breezy repository list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <killown> anyone can help -me?
[07:11] <baggins> !helvetica
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helvetica - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <baggins> !bitmap font
[07:11] <ubotu> bitmap: X client - bitmap. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 252 kB
[07:11] <ravenous> !botabuse
[07:11] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[07:11] <baggins> oops sorry
[07:11] <killown> !info glibc
[07:11] <ubotu> Package glibc does not exist in any distro I know
[07:11] <killown> !glibc
[07:11] <ravenous> killown: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <killown> ravenous thanks
[07:12] <sysdoc> lol, botabuse
[07:12] <luisbg> I don't have /etc/asound.conf :S?
[07:12] <killown> ravenous package not found here
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[07:12] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[07:13] <ravenous> killown: well its in the main dapper repository, make sure you spelled it right
[07:14] <Denyerec> Friggin hell
[07:14] <baggins> ok i've solved my problem with sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[07:14] <Denyerec> It's like Breezy doesn't even exist any more.
[07:14] <ravenous> pretty much
[07:14] <Denyerec> That is not a useful consequence for people who cannot use Dapper :/
[07:15] <stev> Hey can anyone help me i need to execute a .zip file ?
[07:15] <StoneNote> !zip
[07:15] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:15] <strassy> hey leutz was gibtsn fr gute brennprogramme?
[07:15] <k31th> Hi can some one please tell me if sendmail-base sendmail-cf are part of sendmail? its asking me to update them when i run a postfix server (this box has had sendmail on it in the past) im scared it mihgt break my server :o
[07:15] <ravenous> Denyerec: well what prevents you from using dapper? it has LTS, so will be around and supported longer then any previous versions will ever be
[07:15] <stev> Thanks strassy
[07:15] <stev> c ya
[07:16] <Denyerec> Raditz
[07:16] <Denyerec> ravenous - I have 45 minutes in which to set up an FTP server
[07:16] <Denyerec> I do not think I can both safely upgrade to Dapper, then set up FTP, in that timeframe.
[07:16] <Denyerec> Considering it took over 2 weeks to get Breezy working, as I don't know a damn thing about Linux,
[07:16] <Denyerec> I managed to get it working, then I left well alone.
[07:16] <ravenous> do a synaptic/aptitude search for 'ftp' and see what you get
[07:17] <Denyerec> Shit all, is the short answer :/
[07:17] <ompaul> !langauge
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <ompaul> !language
[07:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:17] <Chris_Swift> waf
[07:18] <Denyerec> With this being the case, someone should go through and moderate all the Breezy How-To's
[07:18] <luisbg> even though lspci shows my sound card it seams alsa doesn't see the device, any solution?
[07:18] <Denyerec> as they're lying to the public now.
[07:18] <ravenous> lying? how so
[07:19] <Denyerec> I'm trying to follow the how to
[07:19] <Denyerec> and I cannot
[07:19] <Denyerec> the how-to may as well read "Upgrade to Dapper and come back"
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Denyerec: http://www.supinfo-projects.com/en/2005/ubuntu_server/4/
[07:19] <ravenous> which howto, and is it specific to breezy?
[07:19] <Denyerec> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[07:19] <Denyerec> I followed a link from a Hoary one, that said "CHeck the breezy one here"
[07:19] <Denyerec> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611  <- Hoary
[07:20] <ravenous> well first off the forums are user input, and have nothing to do with the actual ubuntu wiki
[07:20] <Denyerec> The How-To's have a semi official feel to them.
[07:20] <luisbg> what modules should I have running to have alsa working?
[07:21] <Denyerec> At least I was fooled.
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> !alsa
[07:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:21] <Ricardo> so i just ran the package updater
[07:21] <Ricardo> and it updated 10 packages
[07:21] <luisbg> fyrestrtr, if alsa doesn't recognize the device... alsamixer won't open
[07:21] <Ricardo> but after a reboot, gnome won't start
[07:22] <Ricardo> even in safe mode
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Denyerec: The link I gave may help with a breezy ftp...
[07:22] <Denyerec> Readin it now
[07:22] <Denyerec> though the lack of a GUI is crippling me,
[07:22] <Denyerec> I don't understand what's going on well enough to know if it's applicable.
[07:23] <Denyerec> for a windows FTP I just ran a Filezilla server, selected the root folder and created a user account.
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Denyerec: It is a line by line walkthrough for a Breezy FTP setup
[07:23] <manmadha> it is possible to install windows after installing linux if so can u give me the links ........?
[07:23] <jfletcher[mac] > sha la la la la
[07:23] <zenwifi> manmadha, yes, it is possible
[07:23] <Denyerec> Thing is Jack, I need to make sure all uploaded files are set to a particlular group with perticular permissions.
[07:23] <zenwifi> you will have to reinstall grub after doing so
[07:23] <Ricardo> so do you guys have any idea of how i can roll back what i just updated
[07:23] <jhasse> How can i set the same mouse speeds under linux and windows? Is that possible?
[07:24] <manmadha> zenwifi, can u give me the links?
[07:24] <ravenous> jhasse: just set the pointer speed in linux to whatever its running in windows
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Denyerec: Delayed thinking on someones part... 45 minutes to learn, install and setup an ftp...
[07:24] <ravenous> !grub
[07:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:25] <jhasse> ravenous: how can i see absolute values?
[07:25] <luisbg> how do I reboot the soundserver?
[07:25] <zenwifi> manmadha, you will just install windows to the free space on the hard rive and then use this to get grub installed again http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[07:25] <Denyerec> Jack_Sparrow - Don't think I wasn't trying before I came in here :?
[07:25] <zenwifi> after that, you will have to add windows to your grub menu
[07:25] <Denyerec> All the guides sugested I could just install the GUI and Go.
[07:26] <Denyerec> But none of them mentioned that it was now impossible to do this on Breezy.
[07:26] <martii> hi folks
[07:26] <martii> I have a problem
[07:26] <zenwifi> hey
[07:26] <jhasse> ravenous: how can i set the pointer speed?
[07:26] <martii> my ubuntu freezes sometimes on shutdown
[07:26] <ravenous> if you have no gui how are you goinng to use a gui ftp app?
[07:26] <Denyerec> If there was some older repository somewhere with the old gproftpd on it, I could probably get away with it.
[07:26] <martii> with new ati drivers it happens less frequently
[07:26] <martii> but still happens
[07:26] <Denyerec> I have the standard Gnome desktop
[07:26] <Denyerec> and I have proftpd
[07:26] <Denyerec> and the guide alluded to installing  gproftpd
[07:26] <martii> and FF profile is garbage after restart
[07:26] <ravenous> jhasse: should be under system -> preferences -> mouse
[07:26] <Denyerec> however, this no longer exists.
[07:27] <Denyerec> and is dapper only
[07:27] <jaysef> does anyone know where to find the file what grub uses to select boot options
[07:27] <chowdaryharsha> hi
[07:27] <ravenous> jaysef: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:27] <jaysef> thank you
[07:27] <chowdaryharsha> can anyone give me the site for win32 codecs
[07:27] <cfh_dev> How can I enter ascii key characters using the keyboard?  In windows it's alt + <key code>.
[07:28] <Denyerec> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse maybe
[07:28] <ravenous> Denyerec: who dont you open synaptic and search for 'ftp', maybe there is another gui ftp server then proftpd
[07:28] <Denyerec> I'm reading through all the entries now
[07:28] <ravenous> cfh_dev: ctrl + shift + key code
[07:28] <Denyerec> alas some are called GUI, some frontend, etc.
[07:28] <cfh_dev> ravenous, thanks
[07:28] <ompaul> !codecs > chowdaryharsha
[07:28] <ompaul> !away albacker[afk] 
[07:28] <ubotu> away: A terminal locking program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB
[07:28] <luisbg> is anybody going to help me with my alsa problem? and the suggestions of ubotu don't work (tried)
[07:28] <jhasse> ravenous: but in windows there are only two settings: speed and acc. what's about the third one?
[07:28] <ompaul> !away > albacker[afk] 
[07:29] <Ricardo> sigh...
[07:29] <ravenous> jhasse: ive never messed with it i guess
[07:29] <ravenous> i just set the speed thats it
[07:29] <Ricardo> i guess i will just reinstall windows... this is way too much hassle
[07:29] <Garsty> how can I make numlock to be automatically on when ubuntu starts?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> is that supposed to scare us?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Garsty,  you mean for the console or for gnome/X ?
[07:30] <ravenous> Dr_Willis: i always wonder about that threat myself ;p
[07:30] <Garsty> I don't know :) I want it to be on in the login screen
[07:30] <jhasse> ravenous: ???
[07:30] <ompaul> Ricardo, enjoy reading the eula that says they can visit your machine any time any how and remove files from it ;-)
[07:30] <luisbg> why don't I have a /etc/asound.conf file?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Garsty,  ok.  Ive seen that asked befor.. but never sure WHY people wan tit that way. :P
[07:30] <wabbit> hi All!! I've just got compiz on my machine and am having a ball. Could someone let me know what the super-key refers to??
[07:31] <ravenous> wabbit: the windows key most likely
[07:31] <Ricardo> ompaul, it beats having a window manager that dosent work and a non-functioning wlan card
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Garsty,  thers got to be 100+ google hits for it. it may be a GDM option
[07:31] <ompaul> wabbit, please ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:31] <ravenous> jhasse: ive only ever altered the speed, i dont know about the other settings
[07:31] <luisbg> Garsty, it is explained at ubuntu-guide.org
[07:31] <Garsty> Server not found
[07:32] <Garsty> :/
[07:32] <Ricardo> shit, i just updated ubuntu after it asked me to
[07:32] <sl021> how do i install things
[07:32] <Ricardo> and now gnome won't work at all
[07:32] <sl021> :?
[07:32] <luisbg> Garsty, try ubuntuguide.org
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> sl021,  dident notice that 'add/remove programs' in the menu eh?
[07:32] <ravenous> sl021: 'things'? you need to be more specific
[07:32] <Ricardo> and i can't seem to find anyone, anywhere who is willing to help
[07:32] <sl021> o.
[07:32] <sl021> ok
[07:32] <sl021> lol
[07:32] <ompaul> Ricardo, a window manager that does not work - well it does for everyone else, maybe you are confusing it with it not being the same as the windows environment, because it is different
[07:32] <Garsty> that works
[07:32] <bthornton> I need to move about 80GB of files over a LAN from one host to another.  I need to preserve all of the timestamps, perms, UIDs, and GIDs whilst copying, so Samba is out of the picture.  Any suggestons on how to do this?
[07:32] <jhasse> ravenous: ok. But my mouse moves bad under linux :(
[07:32] <Ricardo> so i am pretty fucked here
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> sl021,  a read of the ubuntu guides  is handy as well
[07:32] <sl021> k
[07:33] <ompaul> Ricardo, bad language will get you kicked out of here
[07:33] <Ricardo> i don't know... i've been running freebsd for about 10 years
[07:33] <ravenous> jhasse: possibly running on the wrong driver, could be a number of things
[07:33] <Wilinckx> bthornton, nfs, or scp
[07:33] <Ricardo> i know how posix works
[07:33] <luisbg> all because of a upgrade
[07:33] <ChaosFan> bthornton: netcat
[07:33] <ompaul> Ricardo, I ran make buildworld more times that I can count
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  now ya know why i heep /home on a saperate partition, and do clean reinstalls
[07:34] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, I do that too... but it is a pain in the ass to reinstall
[07:34] <Ricardo> but i update a few libraries with the update utlitiy
[07:34] <Ricardo> and gnome breaks right away
[07:34] <ChaosFan> bthornton: on the host you want to receive, netcat -l -p [portnumber >1024]  | tar xf -
[07:34] <luisbg> shouldn't the upgrades be more clean and problem free in ubuntu?
[07:34] <ravenous> dist-upgrades are headaches waiting to happen imo
[07:34] <Ricardo> i would think luisbg
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Heck under windows - i tend to reinstall the same os every 6 mo. :P
[07:34] <ompaul> Ricardo, that is not how a ubuntu or debian based system works - ohh no - ooch I can see how that would sting
[07:34] <luisbg> come on... can somebody please share his knowledge with me... it might be a 2 minute fix, saving me of a reinstall
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> you both need to mind your language, otherwise you'll just be talking to each other.
[07:34] <ompaul> !timetable > Ricardo
[07:35] <ChaosFan> bthornton: and the sending host calls tar cf - [options you want, like --preserve]  [files to send]  | netcat <ip of receiver> <port you gave netcat -l>
[07:35] <Ricardo> what?
[07:35] <bthornton> ChaosFan: cool, that's about what I was thinking.  Umm... while I'm at it... I'm moving all of this over a 100MB/s LAN, so do  you think it'd make things faster or slower to have tar compress in the process?
[07:35] <ompaul> Ricardo, read the url the bot sent you
[07:35] <relwof> hello everybody I just verry knew to this and is the first time I try the ubuntu live CD but how do I get on my hard drive?
[07:35] <ravenous> luisbg: if somebody knows they will answer, you could be spending this time googling instead of repeating yourself
[07:35] <manmadha> chowdaryharsha, rei
[07:35] <Ricardo> ahh\
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  checked out the !alsa factoid and forum/wiki pages yet?
[07:35] <ChaosFan> bthornton: depends on the number of files
[07:35] <PingunZ> !grub > PingunZ
[07:35] <Eclypse> you guys, can someone tell me a mount command that will mount a DVD with the HSF+ or HSF filesystem?
[07:35] <Xnix> can someone gve me the link the the edgy nightly build CDs?
[07:35] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, what pages?
[07:35] <Xnix> i cant seem to find it, i had it before
[07:35] <luisbg> ravenous, :S
[07:35] <ChaosFan> bthornton: tar is pretty slow with lots of small files
[07:35] <ompaul> Ricardo, reinstall it, you could debug it but you really don't want to do that :-) honestly
[07:35] <Ricardo> ompaul, this was a fresh install, all i installed before these updates was automatix
[07:35] <ulises> hi
[07:36] <dk_> how do i check and change my monitor refresh rate
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> Eclypse: mount -t hsf /dev/cdrom /mnt/somehwere
[07:36] <dk_> in dapper
[07:36] <ravenous> well running automatix was the first mistake
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Ricardo: There is your problem
[07:36] <Eclypse> fyrestrtr thanks
[07:36] <bthornton> ChaosFan: hm ok.  well I'll give that a try without compression then. thanks for the info
[07:36] <ompaul> Ricardo, stay away from that piece of software, it brings with it a lot of "works for me"
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> !alsa
[07:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:36] <Wilinckx> dk_, the menu system, preferences, screen resolution
[07:36] <dk_> ty
[07:36] <Ricardo> ahh that sucks
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  the "  !alsa " pages. :P
[07:36] <ChaosFan> bthornton: you're welcome
[07:36] <ompaul> Ricardo, two bad steps
[07:36] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, checked those, no help
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Ricardo: There is a reason we do NOT recommend Automatix
[07:36] <dk_> hmm
[07:36] <dk_> i  cannot change it from 60 hhz
[07:36] <Ricardo> two bad steps?
[07:37] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, those pages are for when alsa sees the card but doesn't work well, in my case alsa sees no card
[07:37] <Wilinckx> dk_, is it a TFT/LCD screen?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  no idea then. I got a Nice creative sound card thats been no hassle.
[07:37] <dk_> no
[07:37] <dk_> crt
[07:37] <ompaul> Ricardo, libs that belong to the next edition and autowhatsit
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  sounds like you may need toload the modules by hand
[07:37] <dk_> i can change it in windows xp
[07:37] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, mine has been no hastle too until today, after 2 years
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Ricardo: When I see someone insisting on running it I tell them be sure to have a full backup
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  does lspci see the card?
[07:37] <ompaul> Ricardo, do this, reinstall come back and look for me
[07:37] <ulises> Hey, how can i do to apt-get packages only from local repositories (not download)?
[07:37] <Wilinckx> dk_, sure you're using the same resolution as under XP?
[07:37] <manmadha> he my gaim is not offering any smilies....what to do?
[07:37] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, lspci sees the card
[07:37] <dk_> no, im running at a higher resolution
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  thats a good sign then.
[07:37] <dk_> in ubuntu
[07:37] <Ricardo> i am on my xp box right now. so i can stay on while i reinstall
[07:37] <infidel> i have an ati xpress 200m and the agpgart keeps load at boot do i have to remove this from the kernel?
[07:37] <luisbg> but don't know which module it needs because alsa-project.org is down
[07:38] <Ricardo> i want ubuntu on my laptop
[07:38] <ompaul> Ricardo, well reinstall talk to you in 25
[07:38] <Wilinckx> dk_, it's possible your screen just can't do that in your higher resolution, try to set it with the lower resolution as you do in XP
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  could try the live cd// see if it sees the card. and works .and if so.  check what modules its loading
[07:38] <Ricardo> alright
[07:38] <Ricardo> thanks
[07:38] <dk_> ok
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  done that many a time :P
[07:38] <ravenous> ulises: what 'local repositories'? you've built one?
[07:38] <manmadha> how to get smilies back?
[07:38] <insane_alien> yo
[07:38] <ompaul> Ricardo, and don't second guess it :)
[07:38] <isai> hi
[07:38] <insane_alien> hi
[07:38] <ulises> yes i made one and I the a ubuntu CD
[07:38] <dk_> wow
[07:38] <Eclypse> fyrestrtr, it says "/media/cdrom0 is not a block device"
[07:39] <citplaneetietis> insane_alien: from what planet are you? :))
[07:39] <dk_> i changed it to my windows resoulition, and its still stuck  at 60 hz
[07:39] <ompaul> Ricardo, it is a total mind bend from FreeBSD but it rocks - ipfw ain't in ubuntu but other than that I am rather happy
[07:39] <ravenous> ulises: so your trying to install it from the cd or what? you need to be more specific
[07:39] <luisbg> can I choose to use oss instead of alsa in ubuntu?
[07:39] <Wilinckx> dk_,  :(  I'm afrait you'll have to play with /etc/X11/xorg.conf :(
[07:39] <insane_alien> just boring old mars
[07:39] <dk_> :(
[07:39] <dk_> im noob :(
[07:39] <dk_> but its gonna be fun :D
[07:39] <isai> I have downloaded Ubuntu LTS Desktop/Live ISO. I would like to install Ubuntu but NOT install GRUB (I have my own bootloader). Can I do this with the Desktop/Live ISO or must I download the Alternate ISO?
[07:39] <manmadha> can any one tell how to get the smilies in gaim?
[07:39] <Ricardo> ompaul, i guess it will just take some time to learn the ins and outs
[07:40] <dk_> edit it with gedit?
[07:40] <chowdaryharsha> can anyone tell me how to install dvd players in linuX??
[07:40] <ulises> ok, i have a dial-up conection so somtimes i want to install something from a cd or my local repositorie
[07:40] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, ubuntu worked perfectly with my sound card for a long long time, just screwed up after the upgrade
[07:40] <ompaul> Ricardo, well less than some more than others :)
[07:40] <Wilinckx> dk_, yes, as root, can you send the file to me? (don't paste it in this channel :)
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> luisbg,  yep. i recall seeing a lot of peopel with that issue when dapper first came out.
[07:40] <dk_> ok
[07:40] <jrib> manmadha: tools > preferences: interface > conversations > smiley themes
[07:40] <ompaul> !paste
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> isai: you must use the alternate cd
[07:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:41] <ravenous> ulises: you have to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list for the repo
[07:41] <luisbg> Dr_Willis, do you recall a solution LOL, can I use oss instead of alsa?
[07:41] <Raul12> i need help
[07:41] <jrib> !helpme
[07:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <isai> fyrestrtr, is the Alternate CD must harder to use than the Desktop/Live ISO?
[07:41] <Zarephath> does ubuntu support wpa for wireless networks?
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> isai: not really
[07:41] <Wilinckx> Zarathu, yep
[07:41] <ravenous> Zarephath: yes
[07:41] <Raul12> i dont have gcc any other packages installed
[07:41] <jrib> !compile > Raul12
[07:41] <Raul12> how can i nstall them
[07:42] <insane_alien> Zarephath, its supposed to yeah
[07:42] <ravenous> Raul12: sudo apt-get install build-essential will get you make/gcc etc
[07:42] <Wilinckx> Zarathu, install network-manager-gnome (or gnome-network-manager, one of the two)
[07:42] <Wilinckx> Zarathu, than log out and in again
[07:42] <ulises> yes, but the question is if can i "disable" the internet repositories just for a while
[07:42] <luisbg> I don't have "System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector", any clue why?
[07:42] <insane_alien> i still haven't got WPA working yet
[07:42] <Wilinckx> Zarathu, and than you have a nice applet where you can configure it
[07:42] <ravenous> ulises: just put a # in front of them in the sources.list
[07:42] <jrib> luisbg: it went away in dapper
[07:42] <Zarephath> winlinckx: How come after I updated my router to use wpa my wireless connection doesn't come up anymore, and I don't see an option for wpa or wpa2 in the connection settings?
[07:42] <insane_alien> not that i really need it
[07:42] <ompaul> !dvd > chowdaryharsha
[07:42] <jrib> luisbg: gstreamer-properties is the command for it though
[07:42] <Zarephath> I am assuming I need to apt-get a package?
[07:43] <ulises> and i wont have to do an apt-get update later_?
[07:43] <Wilinckx> Zarephath, yes: network-manager-gnome
[07:43] <jadacyrus> What does it take to upgrade from a 32bit system to a 64bit system. I'm buying a new board and proc and I don't want to have to lose all my stuff.
[07:43] <ravenous> jadacyrus: a reinstall
[07:43] <luisbg> thanks jrattner1
[07:43] <luisbg> thanks jrib
[07:43] <jrib> luisbg: np
[07:43] <Zarephath> wilinckx: Ok thanks I will disable and then download the package...
[07:43] <Clinton__> why can't I install msttcorefonts using Edgy?
[07:43] <insane_alien> hmm edgy is getting quite stable
[07:43] <jadacyrus> ravenous: hmm does that mean I will lose everything unless I back it up?
[07:43] <jrib> !edgy
[07:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:43] <ravenous> jadacyrus: yep
[07:43] <jadacyrus> k
[07:43] <Wilinckx> Zarephath, make sure to log out and log in again, otherwise you won't see the applet
[07:43] <Renan_s2> !xgl
[07:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:44] <jadacyrus> Also how is ubuntu with PCI Express?
[07:44] <ravenous> jadacyrus: you need to back up your home dir at the very least
[07:44] <Eclypse> guys can someone give me a command that will actually work to mount a dvd using the hfs file-system?
[07:44] <Zarephath> K...thanks again wilinckx
[07:44] <Wilinckx> Zarephath (configuring with the normal configuration tool does not support WPA)
[07:44] <Clinton__> Eclypse: did you trying using -t auto ?
[07:44] <Wilinckx> Zarephath, np
[07:44] <Eclypse> clinton__ what?
[07:44] <Clinton__> Eclypse: try   mount -t auto [device]  [directory] 
[07:44] <dk_> did you get the file wlinckz
[07:44] <Clinton__> Eclypse: if your machine has hfs support, it will mount it
[07:44] <Wilinckx> dk_: no
[07:45] <dk_> ill try again
[07:45] <Eclypse> clinton__ yes I did, it said "/media/cdrom0 is not a block device"
[07:45] <jadacyrus> Does ubuntu support PCI express cards?
[07:45] <ravenous> yes
[07:45] <Zarephath> Wilinckx: Now you are confusing me? Even after I update gnome-network-manager I won't see an option for wpa?
[07:45] <Clinton__> Eclypse: then you likely don't have hfs support
[07:45] <Wilinckx> Zarephath: do you see an extra applet?
[07:45] <jadacyrus> k cool
[07:45] <Eclypse> clinton__ is there anything I can install to make such support?
[07:45] <dk_> wliinckz
[07:45] <Zarephath> I am not in front of that computer right now :-(
[07:45] <adam__> wassup all
[07:45] <Clinton__> Eclypse: try installing hfsplus and hfsutils
[07:45] <dk_> apparently i cannot send you files
[07:45] <insane_alien> need to restart brb
[07:46] <dk_> or even priv message you
[07:46] <dk_> because im not a registred user
[07:46] <ompaul> !register
[07:46] <adam__> hello?
[07:46] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:46] <Wilinckx> uh i'll identify :)
[07:46] <Clinton__> so noone has any idea why msttcorefonts is being excluded from Edgy?
[07:46] <ompaul> dk_, ^^
[07:46] <Eclypse> clinton__ are those the actual names of the packages?
[07:46] <eyequeuelive> !register > dk_
[07:46] <dk_> ok
[07:46] <jrib> Clinton__: did you try #ubuntu+1?
[07:46] <dk_> !register
[07:46] <adam__> ???
[07:46] <Clinton__> jrib: dope.. I will now :)
[07:46] <eyequeuelive> Clinton__: /join #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <Wilinckx> Zarephath: i'm getting some screenshots for you
[07:46] <jadacyrus> What about dual core support?
[07:46] <Eclypse> clinton__ both of them are installed....
[07:47] <ravenous> jadacyrus: yes
[07:47] <jaysef> how would i boot into a kernel i made yesterday
[07:47] <jadacyrus> Really? I read on the boards tehre were some issues.
[07:47] <ompaul> adam__ you really  don't want 900+ hellos back trust me on this, if you have a question ask the channel, thanks
[07:47] <Clinton__> Eclypse: try sudo modprobe hfs
[07:47] <ravenous> jaysef: add it to the beginning of your menu.lst
[07:47] <Eclypse> clinton__ ok, and?
[07:47] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux....?i used to run programms in borland c++ .......can any one tell how to do graphics prog in linux>???
[07:47] <chowdaryharsha> heey...i have singe partition..how to change t into noof partions??
[07:47] <pooh_beawr> I seriously can not get hardly any programs to compile ever... what am I missing?  I mean are there files I need to get or what? I wish I could just automatically install something to make compiling easier... any tips... or ideas why I can seem to do it?
[07:47] <Eclypse> clinton__ also, when I attempt to mount it doesn't even try to read the drive.
[07:47] <Clinton__> Eclypse: try mounting again after that
[07:47] <ravenous> jaysef: or anywhere on it, then hit 'e' at bootup and select it
[07:48] <manmadha> chowdaryharsha,rei
[07:48] <jrib> !compile > pooh_beawr
[07:48] <Caplain_> is ntfs wire support safe?
[07:48] <ompaul> manmadha, check out gtk++
[07:48] <Raul12> HOW CAN I INSTALL PACKAGES OFFLINE
[07:48] <Eclypse> clinton__ it still doesn't attempt to read, lol.
[07:48] <Caplain_> write*
[07:48] <Raul12> build-essential package
[07:48] <ravenous> Caplain_: not officially no
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> Raul12: step one, is to fix your caps lock key.
[07:48] <Caplain_> eeek
[07:48] <Clinton__> Eclypse: can you mount a regular cd?
[07:48] <Raul12> PLS
[07:48] <jrib> ravenous: it is on the cd, just make sure you use the cd as a repository
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Raul12,  the apt-get guides/docs detail ways to do that.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[07:48] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:48] <billytwowilly> so I've got the livecd for install, but the stupid thing will only display in 640 by 480. I change the vga setting for bootup and still only get  crappy resolution in gnome. how do I fix this?
[07:48] <Caplain_> well i have 250GB and its all ntfs...what do i do?
[07:48] <ravenous> Raul12: put the cd in the drive and search for it in synaptic
[07:48] <pooh_beawr> I'll check it out thanks :)
[07:48] <Eclypse> clinton__, if I eject the drive and put it back in, it mounts, but I want it to mount in this particular filesystem so I can view files.
[07:49] <fedeturu> Necesito cambiar la configuracin de pantalla desde la terminal...???
[07:49] <ompaul> Raul12, it is on the CD and don't use caps thanks
[07:49] <Clinton__> Eclypse: whatever the problem is, it is beyond me then
[07:49] <jrib> !es
[07:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:49] <jaysef> is anyon?e in here using aircrack-ng
[07:49] <Eclypse> clinton__ there must be some way to make it automatically mount the hfs volume :P
[07:49] <luisbg> I think the upgrade screwed up the alsa driver modules of the ubuntu kernel... how can I reconfigure this?
[07:50] <Eclypse> jaysef, get out of here you bloody cracker.
[07:50] <CromagDK> !dk
[07:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[07:50] <Clinton__> Eclypse: maybe, but I don't know how
[07:50] <ompaul> fedeturu, this is an english language channel
[07:50] <Eclypse> clinton__ ok lol, thanks for your attempt.
[07:51] <Clinton__> Eclypse: np, gl
[07:51] <luisbg> I think the upgrade screwed up the alsa driver modules of the ubuntu kernel... how can I reconfigure this?
[07:51] <ravenous> by not repeating?
[07:51] <ompaul> dk06, please do not change your nick in a channel with 900+ in it thanks
[07:51] <Eclypse> clinton__ one more thing, is there a control panel or anything like that for how the system controls mounting and such?
[07:51] <dk06> sorry, ompaul, im trying to register my nick
[07:51] <Clinton__> Eclypse: probably, but I'm a CLI kinda guy
[07:51] <dk06> and dk_ was taken
[07:51] <ompaul> dk06, ok
[07:51] <Eclypse> clinton__ lol ok, thanks again.
[07:52] <manmadha> ompaul, i can nt find the package can u give me the link??
[07:52] <tekia1> Can anyone help me with installing UT2004 off the DVD version? Using SUDO still yields "Permission denied."
[07:52] <ompaul> dk06,
[07:52] <manmadha> gtk+?
[07:52] <ompaul> dk06, okay
[07:52] <manmadha> ompaul, gtk+?
[07:52] <manmadha> !grk+
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grk+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <dk06> sheesh
[07:52] <ompaul> manmadha, just a momemnt
[07:52] <dk06> now i gotta wait 1200 seconds
[07:52] <dk06> sorry willinckx
[07:52] <dk06> ill get that file to you asap
[07:52] <Wilinckx> dk06: I got to go
[07:52] <Wilinckx> sry
[07:53] <dk06> :(
[07:53] <dk06> ok
[07:53] <tekia1> Can anyone help me with installing UT2004 off the DVD version? Using SUDO still yields "Permission denied."
[07:53] <luisbg> ravenous, you are one helpful man
[07:54] <dk06> hmm
[07:54] <Marcus> Can anyone help me with a network question:  I'm trying to ssh from my laptop into my desktop using a crossover cable, but when i change to statip ip and everything it doesnt allow me to set the default gateway device
[07:54] <ravenous> luisbg: and you are quite impatient for a a channel full of volunteers
[07:54] <Marcus> does anyone know what to do?
[07:54] <dk06> maybe you guys can help me with my refresh rate issue
[07:54] <dk06> i cannot change it from 60hz (montior refresh)
[07:54] <Blissex> dk06: have you got an LCD monitor perhaps?
[07:54] <dk06> so wilinckz says i have to edit my xorg.conf
[07:54] <dk06> not its a crt
[07:54] <dk06> so i opened that file
[07:54] <dk06> and it says
[07:54] <dk06> Section "Monitor"
[07:54] <dk06> 	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
[07:54] <dk06> 	Option		"DPMS"
[07:54] <dk06> 	HorizSync	28-80
[07:54] <dk06> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[07:54] <insane_alien> dk06, does your monitor support other refresh rates?
[07:55] <dk06> should i just edit tat vert refresh
[07:55] <dk06> yes it does
[07:55] <maple1> dk06: what other lines does it have?
[07:55] <PingunZ> !grub > PingunZ
[07:55] <habeeb> I dont understand, I followed ubuntuguide, check the forums, and I still cant get the DVD to play. Tried with kaffeine and totem >:
[07:55] <dk06> i changed it before in windows xp
[07:55] <Marcus> can someone help with ssh?
[07:55] <ompaul> dk06, don't paste use, paste.ubuntu-nl.org :-)
[07:55] <Eclypse> clinton__ I think I fiugred out the problem, in the fstab file my drive doesn't appear to have hfs on it.
[07:55] <CromagDK> Marcus: what u need ?
[07:55] <dk06> there are many lines
[07:55] <dk06> ok ty
[07:55] <Eclypse> clinton__ should I add hfs to the drive?
[07:55] <maple1> what's under "modes"?
[07:55] <Marcus> i'm trying to ssh into my desktop from my laptop CromagDK
[07:55] <CromagDK> and you have install ssh daemon ? Marcus
[07:56] <Marcus> but when i try and set the default gateway device to static ip and all that it wont let me choose a default device
[07:56] <ravenous> habeeb: try following wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under 'playing encrypted DVDs'
[07:56] <Marcus> yea
[07:56] <CromagDK> whats the error ?
[07:56] <manmadha> ompaul, he can u give me the links?
[07:56] <Marcus> no error CromagDK
[07:56] <dk06> ok
[07:56] <ompaul> manmadha, I am looking for a suitable ide link
[07:56] <CromagDK> Marcus: so wahts the problem ?
[07:56] <habeeb> ravenous: did it.
[07:56] <dk06> here is the xorg.conf info
[07:56] <dk06> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23082
[07:56] <manmadha> ompaul, ok ok
[07:56] <habeeb> Moment, trying something else, I foudn on the forums ravenous
[07:56] <Marcus> but in network settings when i set it to static ip i cant choose a default device in the pull down
[07:57] <antoxz> could anybody please tell me how to enter an EOF from console?
[07:57] <CromagDK> Marcus: uhm are we talking about ssh or ?
[07:57] <Zarephath> Wilinckx: There is not package network-manager-gnome....only network-manager...so what do I do..execute from command line?
[07:57] <jorgg> can i mount NFS drives when using the menu: Places-> Connect to server ?
[07:57] <Marcus> CromagDK, i'm in network settings
[07:57] <Marcus> eth1 is set to static ip
[07:57] <CromagDK> ok
[07:58] <Marcus> with ip 192.168.1.1
[07:58] <CromagDK> and then you cant do it ?
[07:58] <CromagDK> dont have any router ?
[07:58] <Marcus> but it doesnt let me choose that device when i set it to that
[07:58] <maple1> dk06: beside each "mode" line, put the desired resolution than put @refresh
[07:58] <Marcus> nope
[07:58] <Blissex> jaysef: so what was your problem?
[07:58] <Marcus> just a crossover cable
[07:58] <dk06> ok
[07:58] <Jimmey> jorgg, naw, do it through the command line: mount ip:/Share/location /mount/point
[07:58] <dk06> ty
[07:58] <ompaul> manmadha, the tool until you find something better is glade-gnome there are also glade-doc glade-common
[07:58] <maple1> for example, "1024x768@85"
[07:58] <Marcus> i had it working a while ago
[07:58] <CromagDK> Marcus: what is ur own ip on the lap ?
[07:58] <Marcus> not sure
[07:58] <pooh_beawr> I get overwhelmed using sourcomatic... how do I know what to install (as much as possible) and what can screw up my system?
[07:58] <CromagDK> check :)
[07:58] <Marcus> right now i'm leeching off my schools wireless network
[07:58] <Zarephath> anyone tell me how to get wpa support setup in Ubuntu?
[07:58] <Marcus> how?
[07:58] <Marcus> ping local?
[07:58] <Jimmey> jorgg, I'd do "mount 192.168.0.2:/home/james /home/dave/sharedFiles/"
[07:58] <CromagDK> Marcus: what os ?
[07:59] <dk06> and where do i add @refresh
[07:59] <manmadha> ompaul, ok 1m
[07:59] <jaysef> im trying to boot into a kernel some kind soul helped me build yesterday
[07:59] <Marcus> ubuntu
[07:59] <Zarephath> !wpa
[07:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:59] <jaysef> grub doesnt see it
[07:59] <Marcus> dapper
[07:59] <CromagDK> also on the lap ?
[07:59] <Marcus> yea
[07:59] <Marcus> both are running the same thing
[07:59] <CromagDK> console - ifconfig
[07:59] <Marcus> the lap and the deks
[07:59] <Blissex> jaysef: are you using GRUB console mode?
[08:00] <jaysef> im not sure
[08:00] <Marcus> 192.168.1.182
[08:00] <jaysef> when it boots i have 5 options
[08:00] <tekia1> Can anyone help me with installing UT2004 off the DVD version? Using SUDO still yields "Permission denied."
[08:00] <Rico> jaysef: grub doesn't automatically create entries for new operating systems (usually)
[08:00] <CromagDK> Marcus: ping 192.168.0.1
[08:00] <Blissex> jaysef: ah then it is menu mode.
[08:00] <CromagDK> Marcus: ping 192.168.1.1
[08:00] <Jimmey> Marcus, sorry, I don't think I was here when you described - What's the problem?
[08:00] <pooh_beawr> I always use the repository on the unnoficial Ubuntu guid... and it's really stable, but I think I'm paying the price by missing software... I would like to use source o matic and keep it stable... how do I know what packages to select without messing things up?
[08:00] <jorgg> Jimmey: okay. Thats the way i mount now too.. Ill use that method then :)
[08:00] <Marcus> i did crocd
[08:00] <Marcus> CromagDK,
[08:00] <Marcus> no reply
[08:01] <Blissex> jaysef: GRUB is actually a shell, and what you see as the 5 options are the names of 5 scripts. But you can either edit the scripts or run any command directly to boot any kernel.
[08:01] <atomicrage> anyone have a good link to help me setup my second monitor for duel display?
[08:01] <Marcus> as soon as i set it to static ip it wont let me choose the default gateway device
[08:01] <jaysef> ok
[08:01] <Rico> atomicrage: do you have an nvidia card?
[08:01] <CromagDK> Marcus: and you are not by the box ?
[08:01] <Blissex> jaysef: have you got GRUB running now or are you dual bootin?
[08:01] <atomicrage> yes I have an nvidia card
[08:01] <jaysef> im dual booting
[08:01] <Marcus> no i am
[08:01] <Rico> atomicrage: hold on, i'll dig up a link
[08:01] <CromagDK> Marcus: try set dhcp for it then
[08:01] <phargle> isnt that redundant
[08:01] <Marcus> sudo?
[08:02] <Marcus> apt-get *
[08:02] <jaysef> i made a kernel yesterday, im not even sure where it would reside
[08:02] <CromagDK> Marcus: sec
[08:02] <phargle> parkay
[08:02] <phargle> butter
[08:02] <Marcus> that was it CromagDK
[08:02] <Raul12> I HAVE INSTALLED KDE ON UBUNTU WHICH HELP FILE I GO 4 ? UBUNTU OR KUBUNTU ??
[08:02] <Jimmey> !caps
[08:02] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:02] <Raul12> srry
[08:03] <Marcus> Raul12, you should try xfce
[08:03] <Jimmey> Raul12, Kubuntu. KDE.
[08:03] <ReaLSyLo> hi
[08:03] <Marcus> kde eats up alot of resources
[08:03] <CromagDK> Marcus: what was what ?
[08:03] <admin_> what other system monitors are there other then conky?
[08:03] <Marcus> xfce is really nice
[08:03] <Blissex> Raul12: if you actually are asking about KDE related things, #Kubuntu or #KDE
[08:03] <admin_> and where is htre conky config file?
[08:03] <Marcus> sudo apt-get install dhcp
[08:03] <ReaLSyLo> i need ur help
[08:03] <Raul12> thx
[08:03] <admin_> what other system monitors are there other then conky?
[08:03] <Marcus> do i have the ip's wrong CromagDK or does it matter?
[08:03] <Jimmey> I've just installed a new hard drive, and put a line in fstab mounting it to /home/hdb every boot - How can I make it read/writable by all the users on the computer?
[08:03] <Blissex> jaysef: ok. Not very encouraging :-(. There are two ways to boot again.
[08:04] <ompaul> Raul12, do not use caps again thanks
[08:04] <pooh_beawr> :( how do I know what repos are bad and what are good when using source-o-matic.
[08:04] <CromagDK> Marcus: i dont think you have the ip wrong, but doesn it work with dhcp ?
[08:04] <Marcus> for static i have it set to 192.168.1.1 on the laptop and 0.1 on the desktop
[08:04] <ReaLSyLo> how to change servr port??? i had try /server irc.blabla.org/9999 but it can't
[08:04] <admin_> what other system monitors are there other then conky?
[08:04] <CromagDK> ooh
[08:04] <Blissex> jaysef: one is to reinstall GRUB or LILO. There is a page on the Ubuntu wiki on how to do this by using the install CD as a rescue disk.
[08:04] <CromagDK> and what subnet ?
[08:04] <Marcus> it doesnt let me choose the default gateway device
[08:04] <Marcus> thats the problem
[08:04] <Marcus> 255.255.255.0
[08:04] <Jimmey> admin_, apt-cache search system monitor
[08:04] <CromagDK> set to 192.168.0.1 and 12.168.0.2
[08:04] <Blissex> jaysef: another is to edit the GRUB scripts or enter console mode and find a kernel you can boot.
[08:04] <CromagDK> 192.168.0.2 even
[08:05] <CromagDK> easier for now
[08:05] <Marcus> still wont let me choose CromagDK
[08:05] <jaysef> could you help me with that blissex
[08:05] <Blissex> jaysef: the second way is quicker, but you need to understand how GRUB works.
[08:05] <CromagDK> Marcus: the device u say ?
[08:05] <Marcus> eth1
[08:05] <CromagDK> sure its installed ?
[08:05] <Marcus> i'm using a cross over cable
[08:05] <CromagDK> what NIC is it ?
[08:05] <Marcus> yea
[08:05] <habeeb> Ok, I really cant play DVDs. Tried the restricted formats. downloaded these dvd libs. Did everything >:
[08:05] <Blissex> jaysef: just to be sure: you cannot be in GRUB and online on IRC at the same time?
[08:05] <Marcus> not sure
[08:06] <Jimmey> habeeb, what does it say?
[08:06] <Marcus> what ever came stock with a dell latitude d505
[08:06] <CromagDK> Marcus: you say you had it working ?
[08:06] <Marcus> yea
[08:06] <habeeb> Jimmey: moment.
[08:06] <CromagDK> make subnet 255.255.252.0
[08:06] <Jimmey> habeeb, did you install dvdread3 and totem-xine and libxine-extracodecs?
[08:06] <CromagDK> if using 192.168.2.1
[08:06] <gray_fox> hello!
[08:06] <habeeb> Jimmey: kaffeine says: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd:/] 
[08:06] <habeeb> xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [dvd:/] 
[08:06] <jaysef> i have another pc
[08:06] <habeeb> xine: found input plugin  : DVD Navigator
[08:06] <Marcus> it does that automatic
[08:06] <Jimmey> habeeb, ahh
[08:06] <CromagDK> ah ok
[08:06] <Blissex> jaysef: ahhhh thats excellent!
[08:06] <habeeb> And some others Jimmey
[08:06] <CromagDK> Marcus: and the dhcp part ?
[08:06] <CromagDK> doesnt work or ?
[08:06] <jaysef> cant i just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:07] <Marcus> as soon as i change it to static ip it wont let me choose it
[08:07] <CromagDK> ok
[08:07] <Marcus> dhcp wouldnt start
[08:07] <CromagDK> hmm
[08:07] <CromagDK> hmmm
[08:07] <Marcus> says to check sys config
[08:07] <habeeb> Why ah, Jimmey ?
[08:07] <Marcus> is there a way i can use the dhcp?
[08:07] <Blissex> jaysef: how can you edit '/boot/grub/menu.lst' without being able to boot into the system?
[08:07] <Jimmey> I'm used to making DVDs work in Totem
[08:07] <CromagDK> Marcus: should yes... sec..
[08:07] <habeeb> Jimmey: I can try with Totem.
[08:07] <Jimmey> Kaffeine uses xine by default, right?
[08:07] <jaysef> sorry im on the system now
[08:07] <Jimmey> habeeb, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[08:07] <Jimmey> Then try totem.
[08:07] <habeeb> Jimmey: it doesnt work with Totem too.
[08:07] <overflow> Hi, Im trying to compile and external module and the make commando is trying to execute script/mod/modpost binary inside linux-headers-2.6.15-26/ dir, but there are just sources for that binary and no compiled ... that binary already exists for older kernel versions .. how can I compile that "script"??
[08:08] <habeeb> Already installed Jimmey
[08:08] <Blissex> jaysef: so what is the problem? If you can boot into the system, what problem are you having?
[08:08] <CromagDK> Marcus: in system - administration - networking, what is there ?
[08:08] <Jimmey> habeeb, and it says you can't play DVDs
[08:08] <jaysef> i cant boot a kernel i made yesterday
[08:08] <habeeb> It needs an upgrade, but if I upgrade it, I remove the xine support and get gstreamer.
[08:08] <habeeb> Jimmey:
[08:08] <Marcus> on the laptop theres eth0 eth1 and modem
[08:08] <Jimmey> Oh..
[08:08] <Marcus> eth1 is my wireless
[08:08] <Blissex> jaysef: ahhhh so you can boot, but just not the kernel you made?
[08:08] <Marcus> eth0 is my ethernet
[08:08] <jaysef> yes
[08:08] <Blissex> jaysef: uhmmmm could have said it a bit beforehand :-).
[08:08] <Marcus> on my dekstop its just eth0 and modem
[08:08] <CromagDK> but on the desktop
[08:08] <jaysef> sorry i didnt explain myself very well
[08:09] <CromagDK> ok
[08:09] <CromagDK> mark ETh0
[08:09] <afi> can someone pass link for fast UBUNTU dvd-amd64 iso !??????
[08:09] <Marcus> set to dhcp?
[08:09] <CromagDK> and click properties
[08:09] <CromagDK> yes try
[08:09] <CromagDK> or did u before ?
[08:09] <Marcus> it is
[08:09] <habeeb> Any idea Jimmey ? :/
[08:09] <CromagDK> it is ?
[08:09] <Jimmey> habeeb, nope.
[08:09] <Marcus> but how do i know what ip to ssh too?
[08:09] <habeeb> Jimmey: ok thanks!
[08:09] <CromagDK> console - ifconfig
[08:09] <overflow> s/commando/comman
[08:09] <overflow> s/commando/command
[08:09] <overflow> hello?
[08:09] <Blissex> jaysef: well, all you really have to do is to copy the kernel to '/boot/', install the modules, and then add a new section to '/boot/grub/menu.lst'. There are tutorials/HOWTOs on doing this. What is the problem in doing it?
[08:09] <habeeb> Someone else who can sacrifise himself to help me fix this freaking DVD issue/
[08:09] <Jimmey> habeeb, if you get it working right, totem/kaffeine should play it without your interfeance
[08:09] <afi> can someone pass link for fast UBUNTU dvd-amd64 iso !??????
[08:10] <Blissex> habeeb: it helps if you describe exactly what error messages you get. Also try #mplayer for example
[08:10] <erider> I need some help with ubuntu 64bit I can't find firefox video plugin that works
[08:10] <Jimmey> habeeb, is that the case? Or are you trying to tell the player to play dvd://
[08:10] <jaysef> where would the kernel reside
[08:10] <Jimmey> Blissex, he did
[08:10] <Raging_Hog> hello, anyone elses firefox hanging oddly at random times on dapper?
[08:10] <afi> can someone pass link for fast  download UBUNTU dvd-amd64 iso !??????
[08:10] <habeeb> I tried playing the Dvd from the command line Jimmey
[08:10] <habeeb> Didnt work.
[08:10] <Jimmey> habeeb, ahh.,
[08:10] <jaysef> is there a command to display previously made kernels ?
[08:10] <habeeb> Moment Blissex
[08:10] <Jimmey> After you downloaded libdvdread3, did you run the sh script?
[08:11] <habeeb> Yes Jimmey
[08:11] <CromagDK> Marcus: so ? :)
[08:11] <xhaan> Raging_Hog, mine hangs all the time, but i dont know why
[08:11] <habeeb> Should I download the -dev one?
[08:11] <erider> afi use a downloader
[08:11] <Jimmey> habeeb, and that ran without hitch?
[08:11] <Marcus> i cant set it CromagDK eth1 is my ethernet connection
[08:11] <Blissex> jaysef: well, the kernel would be 'arch/i386/boot/bzImage' wherever you put the sources.
[08:11] <Marcus> it kicked back this:
[08:11] <Marcus>           inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:11] <habeeb> Yes, I had to ran it under root, tho.
[08:11] <afi> downloader ??
[08:11] <erider> afi that what I did
[08:11] <Marcus> or wait
[08:11] <Marcus> that was my wireless
[08:11] <Marcus> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0B:DB:05:AB:1A
[08:11] <Marcus>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[08:11] <Marcus>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[08:11] <Marcus>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[08:11] <Marcus>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[08:11] <Marcus>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[08:11] <CromagDK> dont paste!
[08:11] <Marcus> thats what the ethernet kicked
[08:11] <Marcus> sorry
[08:11] <erider> yeah a downloader that opens more then one connection
[08:12] <habeeb> Blissex: http://pastebin.ca/166236
[08:12] <CromagDK> thats not much
[08:12] <Raging_Hog> xhaan, mine hanged when i used the new dapper-based mepis and now that ive got real dapper it hung once just yesterday
[08:12] <Marcus> theres no ip to ssh too
[08:12] <Marcus> so how do i ?
[08:12] <ryctor> dhclient eth0
[08:12] <CromagDK> get ur desktop running a dhcp server or make ur laptop do it
[08:12] <erider> any help with ubuntu64 firefox video plugins??
[08:12] <Marcus> how CromagDK ?
[08:12] <maki> hello
[08:13] <Blissex> jaysef: typically you would do like: 'cp -p arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-mine', and similarly 'cp -p System.map /boot/System.map-mine'. And then create a new entry in the GRUB config.
[08:13] <ompaul> Ricardo, u still there?
[08:13] <CromagDK> Marcus: install a DHCP server.
[08:13] <Ricardo> eyp
[08:13] <CromagDK> Marcus: sudo apt-cache search dhcp
[08:13] <Blissex> jaysef: it gets a bit more complicated if your newly build kernel needs an 'initrd' image, because then you need to build it.
[08:13] <CromagDK> see what comes up
[08:13] <Ricardo> i was just about to try to install that broadcom driver again
[08:13] <Ricardo> it would be nice to make network manager work
[08:13] <Ricardo> from what i hear it's pretty cool
[08:14] <Blissex> jaysef: you could spare yourself some complications if you built the kernel with 'kpackage', which builds an installable '.deb' for you.
[08:14] <afi> wlist ath0 scan   !!!!
[08:14] <Blissex> !kpackage
[08:14] <ubotu> kpackage: KDE package management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 670 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[08:14] <atomicrage> can anyone help with setting up 2 monitors using nvidia gf2 5700LE?
[08:14] <SplashDamage> Is there any way to get the ati x850 working?
[08:14] <CromagDK> ah damn, sorry got to go
[08:14] <CromagDK> afk
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> atomicrage: sure, have you already installed the binary drivers?
[08:14] <Marcus> thanks for the help CromagDK
[08:14] <Diiba> God
[08:14] <Diiba> How stupid i am
[08:14] <ompaul> Ricardo, search for "broadcom cafuego 43xx" - I have to do some designated driving back asap
[08:15] <erider> can any one help with ubuntu64 firefox video plugins??
[08:15] <Ricardo> ok
[08:15] <SplashDamage> i downloaded the iso before i checked the compatibility list :/
[08:15] <ompaul> Ricardo, leave the wm a while I'll talk to you when I get back
[08:15] <habeeb> Ok I made it. I ran it with mplayer, but the playback sucks. It freezes..
[08:16] <overridex> is there anyway to add a 32bit apt source to 64-bit dapper, or will it always try to get 64-bit package lists from any repo?
[08:16] <erUSUL> overridex: no afaik
[08:16] <UbuntuNoob> Quick question (I hope) how do I set the default gateway in the wlan assistant?
[08:17] <jaysef> how does one apply a .patch file ?
[08:17] <Blissex> overridex: it is possible, but unless you are a master of APT don't even think about it. APT (and DPKG) have serious and profound limitations in handling multi-archtiecture installs.
[08:17] <Blissex> jaysef: 'patch OPTIONS < ....'
[08:18] <afv-13> is there a way to modify the gnome-desktop package to exclude the packages i don't want instead of removing it?
[08:18] <johnny_> can someone help me set up a dhcp client?
[08:18] <Blissex> jaysef: BTW it is very unlikely that you need to build your own kernel. It is not an easy thing to do well.
[08:18] <Blissex> johnny_: there are lots of online tutorials...
[08:18] <johnny_> i dont have that luxury
[08:18] <ryctor> dhclient lancard
[08:18] <Blissex> afv-13: sure, but if you need to ask how, not a good idea.
[08:19] <ryctor> luxury?
[08:19] <manmadha> he i installed mysql to do the programms (But it is not working...)mysql> create table kodali(name char[10] );
[08:19] <manmadha> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '[10] )' at line 1
[08:19] <afv-13> Blissex: could you point be to a site that would show me how?
[08:19] <manmadha> can anyone help me?
[08:19] <jaysef> blissex : all im trying to do is install and confirm i have madwifi drivers, then apply the file madwifi-ng-r1679.patch to them
[08:19] <ryctor> its earier that someone else read about it and then tell you how,right?
[08:20] <Blissex> afv-13: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/
[08:20] <vasi> manmadha: you should probably ask in a SQL-specific channel
[08:20] <vasi> maybe #mysql?
[08:20] <afv-13> Blissex: thanks
[08:20] <Blissex> afv-13: all you need to do is to download the source to that package, edit the control file with the dependencies, and rebuild it. Not difficult. Also look at the ''equiv'' package builder.
[08:21] <vasi> Blissex: you don't really need to rebuild it
[08:21] <tuxtux> ciao
[08:21] <vasi> you can just extract, edit, and repack
[08:21] <Blissex> vasi: yes, but it is not good without rebuilding.
[08:21] <vasi> Blissex: just for editing the dependencies, it works fine this way....for more extensive changes you're right, of course
[08:21] <Blissex> vasi: in theory you can just edit the files under '/var/lib/dpkg/'. But bad news if you use APT etc.
[08:22] <vasi> Blissex: heh, definitely don't do that!
[08:22] <thedash> can Ubuntu interface with Windows networks?
[08:22] <jaysef> yes
[08:22] <thedash> hmm
[08:22] <thedash> I am in the same network name as the other people in my house, but I can't see any of them, and they can't see me
[08:23] <Blissex> vasi: anyhow it may be that the '.deb' is checksummed/signed, so it can't be modified that easily, only rebuilt...
[08:23] <vasi> Blissex: good point
[08:23] <ryctor> its interesting how you find people like that, saying after they had been explained howto resolve a situation, that they are sysadmins, when they even refuse to read the basic shell and unix command line manuals
[08:23] <jaysef> thedash can you ping them ?
[08:24] <Skaag> hey guys :-)
[08:24] <thedash> jaysef: it appears not
[08:24] <ryctor> example, thedash: man samba
[08:24] <jaysef> you either can or you cant
[08:24] <ravenous> ryctor: sysadmin is a broad term for alot of ppl .. a guy hosts a ftp server these days and he calls himself one ;p
[08:24] <thedash> it says host unreachable
[08:24] <Skaag> I really like how ubuntu allows me to mount remote volumes via SSH, but sadly only gnome apps can see those mouse. Is there a way I can make Amarok see those volumes?
[08:25] <ryctor> not even ever reading the ftpd manual
[08:25] <jaysef> are you on a wlan ?
[08:25] <vasi> Skaag: kde has their own method for remote access, google 'kio'
[08:25] <yoshiznit123> thedash, did you enable windows sharing under system->administration->shared folders?
[08:25] <Skaag> vasi: thanks
[08:26] <thedash> yoshiznit123: yes I did
[08:26] <vasi> Skaag: the best solution would probably be to use 'fuse' to make it a real system-level mount....never done that before myself though, so can't really help
[08:26] <thedash> jaysef: we are on a router, I am not wireless though
[08:26] <johnny_> my tab complete just stopped working for terminal
[08:26] <jaysef> can you ping the router
[08:26] <Skaag> vasi: ah, fuse!! I heard of that. That's the way I should go then.
[08:26] <johnny_> how do i restart it?
[08:27] <Skaag> vasi: With fuse i'll just not have to bother, it will be a "natural" mount (almost).
[08:27] <AlReece45> My USB mouse starts working correctly, then stops after 1 second - 4 minutes, where should I look to find the problem?
[08:27] <bnovc> anyone know of an scp program that has a gui
[08:27] <vasi> bnovc: gftp
[08:27] <jaysef> thedash can you ping your router
[08:27] <thedash> jaysef: pinging the router works
[08:27] <ryctor> AlRee: dmesg
[08:27] <Garsty> is there a way to enable middle mouse button to act in firefox the same as in Microsoft IE?
[08:28] <AlReece45> ryctor: thanks
[08:28] <mercur> vasi: but ftp is not the same as scp?
[08:28] <ryctor> np
[08:28] <Subhuman> Garsty, use opera? :P
[08:28] <Raging_Hog> Garsty, you mean the scrolling?
[08:28] <Garsty> I think that in firefox for windows, it does act the same as in IE
[08:28] <UbuntuNoob> When I try to connect to my wireless network the wirless assistant keeps saying No default gateway. How do I set the default gateway?
[08:28] <Garsty> yes
[08:28] <Garsty> scrolling
[08:28] <vasi> mercur: gftp supports sftp
[08:28] <Subhuman> Garsty, oh right thats X behabior
[08:28] <Subhuman> you cant change it.
[08:28] <vasi> which is basically a ftp-ish wrapper around scp
[08:28] <Subhuman> in linux middle mouse button is always copy/paste
[08:29] <sl021> how do i install ndiswrapper-1.23.tar.gz
[08:29] <mercur> vasi: ok i didnt knew that :)
[08:29] <Garsty> strange :p
[08:29] <rixxon> why does ubuntu use so much more battery than xp?
[08:29] <Raging_Hog> Garsty, write about:config on the address bar, then write scroll to the filter bar. toggle the general.autoscroll to true
[08:29] <vasi> sl021: ubuntu already comes with ndiswrapper, i think
[08:30] <vasi> you shouldn't have to manually compile/install it
[08:30] <UbuntuNoob> I've noticed that too rixxon, I think it's that it doesn't have the same power options
[08:30] <sl021> :o
[08:30] <UbuntuNoob> so it doesn't lighten the load when unplugged
[08:30] <Garsty> Raging_Hog, thanks
[08:30] <Garsty> why does clipboard get discarded if you close the prorgam from which I copied something and try to paste it after closing that program?
[08:31] <johnny_> can someone help me with ssh
[08:31] <Ricardo> holy crap
[08:31] <Ricardo> i wish this stuff was on the forums
[08:31] <Ricardo> that was so easy
[08:31] <vasi> johnny_: just say what's wrong, don't ask to ask :-)
[08:31] <johnny_> when i try to set the default gateway device to static ip it wont let me choose that device
[08:31] <vasi> Garsty: i think the freedesktop folks are working to fix that...
[08:32] <Garsty> good
[08:32] <johnny_> and i need to move some files from my laptop to my dekstop
[08:32] <johnny_> i dont have a router so i'm using a crossover cable
[08:33] <setuid> Anyone seen this before? dpkg: fgets gave an empty string from diversions [i] 
[08:33] <setuid> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[08:33] <setuid> Google has nothing on it (well, they have links to the source files with that string in it, but no fixes)
[08:33] <johnny_> any know anything that can help?
[08:34] <johnny_> or what the problem is and why as soon as i change it to static ip i cant choose that device?
[08:34] <vasi> johnny_: sorry, i dunno :-/
[08:34] <cornflake> is edgy the bleeding edge software?
[08:34] <vasi> setuid: never seen it
[08:34] <vasi> cornflake: yes
[08:35] <UbuntuNoob> When I try to connect to my network with the wireless assistant it keeps saying "No default gateway" Does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:35] <Zarephath526> Ok people..I just used source-o-matic to give me a new sources.list..then apt-get update...still no joy in finding network-manager-gnome
[08:35] <Zarephath526> I have universe/multiverse enabled?
[08:35] <erUSUL> !info network-manager-gnome
[08:35] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[08:35] <erUSUL> 20:35 < Zarephath526> I have universe/multiverse enabled?
[08:35] <erUSUL> Zarephath526: it is in main you don't need extra repositories
[08:35] <Ricardo> so what do you guys think of easyubuntu
[08:36] <erUSUL> !easyubuntu
[08:36] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:36] <johnny_> can dhclient3 set up a dynamic ip?
[08:36] <Zarephath526> erUSUL: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome says it can't find the .dev
[08:36] <Zarephath526> *.deb
[08:36] <setuid> vasi, How do I unscrew the dpkg diversions db?
[08:36] <vasi> setuid: take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/diversions
[08:36] <vasi> and see what's messed up about it
[08:37] <vasi> hopefully it'll be obvious :-/
[08:37] <erUSUL> Zarephath526: please post the output of sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome to a pastebin
[08:37] <setuid> vasi, binary file
[08:37] <vasi> setuid: also save a copy of diversions.old, maybe that's still unscrewed
[08:37] <setuid> rm'd it, lemme try again
[08:37] <vasi> setuid: huh!? it should be text i think...
[08:37] <mikeo> how do i restore grub after a vista install?
[08:38] <mikeo> there has to be a quick way to do it cause im sure its a very common occurance
[08:38] <setuid> Yep, that fixed it
[08:38] <erUSUL> !grub
[08:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <Kymco> Is it possible to write DVD-RAM disks in Ubuntu?
[08:38] <mikeo> thanks
[08:39] <vasi> i'm trying to install edgy, but it looks like the offb (open firmware framebuffer) driver is borked...i just get a blank white screen
[08:39] <Zarephath526> !pastebin
[08:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:40] <Raul654> Question -
[08:40] <vasi> any idea how i can get it to work?
[08:40] <Dirtycash> Hi all
[08:40] <vasi> (or how to get the kernel to use rivafb instead?)
[08:40] <erUSUL> |edgy > vasi
[08:40] <pennypacker> !hi
[08:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[08:40] <mikeo> will using an ubuntu 5.1 amd64 install disk work to restore grub if the version of ubuntu has been upgraded to 6.1?
[08:40] <Dirtycash> I am having issues setting up my HP PSC 2350 printer to scan, totally clueless
[08:41] <vasi> erUSUL: sorry?
[08:41] <mikeo> or should i download a newer install disk
[08:41] <Raul654> I recently pulled a hard drive (with a dapper installation) out of a very old (P-II class) machine and installed it into a new P4 class machine. The whole thing went pretty smoothly, except it doesn't detect the onboard network card. Is there a command line tool to scan for new hardware and install it?
[08:41] <erUSUL> vasi: for edgy use #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <UbuntuNoob> When I try to connect to my network with the wireless assistant it keeps saying "No default gateway" Does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:41] <vasi> erUSUL: thanks, sorry for the cluelessness :-)
[08:43] <erUSUL> vasi: no problem. i'm the one clueless about edgy :(
[08:43] <Dirtycash> Anyone else have there Hp printer scanning photos?
[08:43] <ryctor> Raul: this is no Windows
[08:43] <Dirtycash> I can't figure out how to do it is there a user interface or sumthin in UBuntu?
[08:43] <ryctor> dmesg and ifconfig it
[08:43] <teckfatt> anyone can help me? i can not complete my com apt-get update, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23088
[08:43] <Garsty> what is "Canonical Auth"?
[08:43] <Raul654> ryctor - ifconfig does not find eth0
[08:43] <vasi> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:44] <vasi> teckfatt: paste your error
[08:44] <erUSUL> mikeo: use the instructions labeled 'Note using the Ubuntu Live CD' that uses the grub binary of the hd instead of the one in the livecd
[08:44] <vasi> oh woops, you did
[08:44] <vasi> i'm blind!
[08:44] <ryctor> dmesg it and modprobe the card module if available
[08:44] <pennypacker> !wurst
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wurst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <teckfatt> vasi: is ok
[08:45] <erUSUL> teckfatt: it seems an error in the server end try another mirror or wait untill it is corrected
[08:45] <Raul654> dmesg | grep 'eth0' -> VIA Rhine II at 0x1b000, and MII PHY found at address 1
[08:45] <Raul654> which one should I modprobe? And how do I force it to load that module every time at boot?
[08:45] <erUSUL> Zarephath526: have you post the output of the comands i gave you?
[08:45] <Zarephath526> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23089
[08:46] <ubuntu-U> If XGL/Compiz runs for about 2mins then locks up what should i troubleshoot?
[08:46] <vasi> Raul654: you can put it in /etc/modules to load at boot
[08:46] <sHerMie> hi
[08:46] <ryctor> ifconfig eth0 up?
[08:46] <Zarephath526> ifup eth0
[08:46] <teckfatt> erUSUL: do you think is my box problem? becoz i dc on the middle on update the repos
[08:46] <UbuntuNoob> When I try to connect to my network with the wireless assistant it keeps saying "No default gateway" Does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:46] <Raul654> vasi - ok, thanks
[08:46] <Raul654> now I just have to figure out what to modprobe
[08:46] <CromagDK> !logitech
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <erUSUL> Zarephath526: you are in breezy!! i do not remember if n-m-gnome exist in breezy
[08:47] <Zarephath526> Ahh...ok let me dist-upgrade then..thanks
[08:47] <erUSUL> teckfatt: as i said it seems a problem in the other end but that's IMHO
[08:47] <Zarephath526> UbuntuNoob: Yeah...are you using a router?
[08:47] <ryctor> UbuntuNoob: with ifconfig dude, you want it chewed, read a bit
[08:47] <ubuntu-U> Ubuntu - yes. - add the machine that is nearest to it. on the path to the internet
[08:47] <UbuntuNoob> yes, a linux wrt54g router
[08:47] <erUSUL> !info network-manager-gnome breezy
[08:47] <ubotu> Package network-manager-gnome does not exist in breezy
[08:47] <npster> I need a really simple but good Image editing/Paint type program, I am looking something like Paint.Net for windows ?
[08:47] <UbuntuNoob> Lynsys I mean
[08:47] <sHerMie> i don't have a root password, but i can't remember that system ask me for it, XD
[08:48] <Zarephath526> UbuntuNoob: then put the ip of your router in the network config for your adapter and you should be set...
[08:48] <sHerMie> i had to change it, at first login ??
[08:48] <overridex> is there a setting to allow windows to move onto/be placed over the panel at the top of the screen?
[08:48] <ubuntu-U> example   internet << dsl router << some machine << your wireless connected machine
[08:48] <ravenous> sHerMie: its not set by default in ubuntu, for security purposes
[08:48] <james296> How can I reset my boot screen to its default?
[08:48] <Raul654> ok, so the onboard NIC is a Via Rhine II
[08:48] <Subhuman> overridex, yes
[08:48] <ubuntu-U> your gateway for the router would be some machine
[08:48] <Raul654> what do I modprobe to load the driver?
[08:48] <overridex> Subhuman: where?
[08:49] <Flannel> !tell sHerMie about sudo
[08:49] <manmadha> is it possible to trace the ip&mac addressess in our network?
[08:49] <Subhuman> overridex, system-pref-windows
[08:49] <sHerMie> dosen't work it
[08:49] <Subhuman> then set Alt or some key to move windows, if you select a window that way it will allow you to move it over the top
[08:49] <james296> well?
[08:49] <sHerMie> i tried
[08:49] <ryctor> wrong, the gateway is the routers ip, as in 192.168.0.1
[08:49] <ravenous> sHerMie: sudo is asking for your user password not roots
[08:50] <UbuntuNoob> Zaraphath: I've gone to Administration-Netowrking, and tried putting the information in under connection settings, both as Static IP and DHCP, and also set Wlan0 as the drfault gateway is there another place I should put the information in?
[08:50] <Raul654> if I know what type of NIC I have, how do I know what driver to modprobe?
[08:50] <Raul654> is there a list somewhere?
[08:50] <CromagDK> anyone using Logitech G1 mouse under Ubuntu dapper ?
[08:50] <sHerMie> ravenous, i know
[08:50] <overridex> Subhuman: hmm.. i don't see it...
[08:50] <sHerMie> at the first time i can didi it
[08:50] <sHerMie> jaja
[08:50] <ryctor> it incredible how people refuse to rad
[08:51] <sHerMie> but now i can't!!
[08:51] <erUSUL> Raul654: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-k7/kernel/drivers/net/
[08:51] <Subhuman> overridex, movement key
[08:51] <ryctor> it would be done by now
[08:51] <CosmoDad> Raul654: if it's not older than an awful lot of years, it should load automatically
[08:51] <Flannel> sHerMie: you can't what?
[08:51] <ubuntu-U> If XGL/Compiz runs for about 2mins then locks up what should i troubleshoot?
[08:51] <npster> what is "rad"?
[08:52] <Flannel> ubuntu-U: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:52] <ubuntu-U> "read" /sarcasm
[08:52] <sHerMie> forget it
[08:52] <ryctor> use ifconfig eth0 ipnumber netmask netmask and then dhclient eth0
[08:52] <ubuntu-U> Flannel - empty channel. ;/
[08:52] <Flannel> ubuntu-U: try #xgl then
[08:52] <Raul654> ok, I just did 'modprobe via_rhine' and it ran without error
[08:52] <Raul654> however, ifconfig still doesn't give me an eth0
[08:52] <overridex> ubuntu-U: #ubuntu-xgl is far from empty right now
[08:52] <ryctor> check dmesg again
[08:52] <npster> What is a good but simple image editor ???
[08:52] <nich0s> Sorry, I timed out... was there a response no my question?
[08:53] <ryctor> gimp
[08:53] <npster> ryctor: GIMP isn't really simple
[08:53] <Flannel> npster: OOo Draw
[08:53] <ubuntu-U> Flannel - Okay, - Thanks. (spent a couple'a mins this morning drooling over google videos of xgl. - Vista is no where near as elegant.)
[08:53] <ryctor> xv?
[08:53] <thedash> how do I see local networks?
[08:53] <foo> I installed ubuntu server and then I installed fluxbox ... but my background doesn't get set with my style. Any ideas? I think it's ubuntu related, maybe a package I am missing.
[08:54] <Raul654> ryctor - there don't appear to be any new entries
[08:54] <mikeo1> heh back in ubuntu with grub again :D
[08:54] <Raul654> the last for are:
[08:54] <mikeo1> along with xgl on dual screens...
[08:54] <ryctor> modinfo
[08:54] <leleobhz> hello all!
[08:54] <Raul654> NET registered protocol family 17, 10, lo: disable privacy extensions, and IPv6 over IPv4 tnneling driver
[08:54] <ubuntu> czesc
[08:55] <leleobhz> plz someone know where i can find package samba-vscan?
[08:55] <jaysef> im trying to run the  "    make  " command and when i do i encounter problems
[08:55] <leleobhz> ow how intall it/
[08:55] <CosmoDad> npster: the Ubuntu rep names "nip2" and "ida", but I don't know how simple they are
[08:55] <Milktea> How do I enable Japanese input
[08:55] <UbuntuNoob> Czesc, co slyhac u ciebie
[08:55] <nich0s> jaysef: Do you have the build-essential package installer?
[08:55] <Flannel> jaysef: do you have build-essential installed?
[08:55] <ubuntu> du ju spik inglish
[08:55] <npster> Flannel: There is a problem, Im my office thingy in Applications > Office there is no Open Office.org Draw?
[08:55] <npster> in*
[08:55] <ubuntu> nic takiego
[08:56] <foo> Flannel: Hm, you might know this one .. I think you're a fluxbox guy. I installed ubuntu server and then I installed fluxbox ... but my background doesn't get set with my style. Any ideas? I think it's ubuntu related, maybe a package I am missing.
[08:56] <npster> Flannel: I checked Synaptic and OOo Draw is installed
[08:56] <`Lam> is it recommended to run x64 Ubuntu?  i heard the x64 architecture overall was pretty buggy and i don't want to go through too much hassle if it isn't worth it at the moment
[08:56] <bolrod> yo, if I want to install windows after I installed linux.. are there some issues to take into account?
[08:57] <Rico> `Lam: i run 32-bit on a 64-bit machine, due to the 64-bit having problems with flash, windows codecs, possibly xgl
[08:57] <CosmoDad> bolrod: Windows will kill your boot manager (lilo, grub)
[08:57] <Rico> you can overcome them with chroot and a 32-bit mini-os but it's a pain in the ass
[08:57] <`Lam> Rico: yeah i thought the same would probably happen. i'll probably run the x86 for now then. i really hope x64 gets fixed soon.
[08:57] <npster> i can't find OOo Draw in my Applications > Office and Synaptic says that is installed, Help!
[08:57] <Raul654> uh oh
[08:57] <Raul654> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-192303.html
[08:57] <mikeo1> i did...
[08:57] <mikeo1> you just have to restore grub
[08:57] <mikeo1> after windows is installed
[08:57] <lucasvo> how can I copy a directory over ftp with the "ftp" tool?
[08:57] <Milktea> How do I enable Japanese input
[08:58] <Rico> `Lam: I have no idea how it would be 'fixed'... I believe the technique used to run 32-bit codecs on linux as if they were native simply doesn't work
[08:58] <npster> Can someone help ?
[08:58] <bolrod> CosmoDad: so, I can reinstall it with live cd right?
[08:58] <CosmoDad> bolrod: right
[08:58] <Flannel> `Lam: the problem with 64 bit is all the binary only things have to be tweaked a little, the platform is mature and stable
[08:58] <mikeo1> or an ubuntu install disk
[08:59] <mikeo1> i just reinstalled it like 5 min ago
[08:59] <Rico> bolrod - grub-install will restore your mbr
[08:59] <bolrod> and can I install windows on the 2nd partition of a HD?
[08:59] <mikeo1> after installing RC1 of vista
[08:59] <Flannel> npster: open a run dialog and type oodraw2
[08:59] <salim> when I type in Synaptic xchat it only shows up the version 0.11, but there is a version 2.6.6 - is this normal???
[08:59] <CosmoDad> bolrod: AFAIK, Windows requires a primary partition... don't know about Vista, though
[08:59] <`Lam> Flannel: would it be any better for x64 users to use Gentoo since it can compile thigns from soure instead of using binarys?
[08:59] <Milktea> i herd u leik mudkips
[08:59] <mikeo1> mine are both primary....
[08:59] <Flannel> salim: Youre using the xchat in gnome, right?
[08:59] <bolrod> I'll just try to wiggle it around a bit
[08:59] <salim> XFCE
[09:00] <ryctor> if there is no file manager people dont know where they are, look in /usr/X11R6/bin or /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[09:00] <CosmoDad> mikeo1: should(!) be fine then
[09:00] <Rico> salim: interesting, i'm running 2.6.1, post-upgrade
[09:00] <Flannel> `Lam: no, the linux programs etc are all compiled for 64, we're talking about things that you can't get as binaries, like flash
[09:00] <livingdaylight> i need help with unserstanding which is the best option to reinstall or recover Grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:00] <npster> Nope
[09:00] <Flannel> salim: er, xchat in main though, not the one in universe?
[09:00] <manmadha> is it possible to trace the ip&mac addressess in our network?
[09:00] <Flannel> npster: try without the 2 then
[09:00] <npster> yeah
[09:00] <`Lam> Flannel: ok i'll consider x64.  it just seems like a pain to get certain thigns to work, like Cedega
[09:00] <manmadha> itried nmap...
[09:00] <salim> I've downloaded xchat from xchat.org now, in version 2.6.6
[09:00] <Rico> oh right
[09:01] <manmadha> but it gives no op
[09:01] <Flannel> salim: in dapper, the xchat is xchat-gnome, which is a different versioning.  You can get the other xchat, which is in universe, and that's regular 'xchat'
[09:01] <Rico> this is perfectly normal, though
[09:01] <salim> yeah but how?
[09:01] <Flannel> salim: enable universe, and install it
[09:01] <Rico> there will be a delay between when the app is released and when an Ubuntu package is made
[09:01] <SpudULike> I want to run fdisk on a usb mounted CF card.  How do I find the right device name on Dapper?
[09:01] <manmadha> is it possible to trace the ip&mac addressess in our network?
[09:01] <salim> is there a tutorial to get the best and most important repositories? (e.g. installing the UP-TO-DATE stuff like java, kontact, etc.)
[09:02] <ravenous> !repositories
[09:02] <livingdaylight> hello
[09:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:02] <salim> how do I enable universe? in repositories?
[09:02] <livingdaylight> help?
[09:02] <livingdaylight> !help
[09:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:02] <manmadha> !nmap
[09:02] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.03-3 (dapper), package size 688 kB, installed size 2380 kB
[09:02] <livingdaylight> !hello
[09:02] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[09:02] <Flannel> salim: if you want extremely up to date stuff, you might want to give debian unstable a second look.  Ubuntu freezes their versions every release
[09:02] <livingdaylight> should i just keep repeating the question?
[09:02] <CromagDK> livingdaylight: try posting the problem/question :)
[09:03] <Rico> salim: enable universe (see wiki) and backports
[09:03] <livingdaylight> CromagDK: i did:) lol
[09:03] <CromagDK> then im blind or lost my eyes
[09:03] <livingdaylight> CromagDK: should i just keep trying to post it
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob> that's what I've been doing livingdaylight, I repost my question every few minutes
[09:03] <salim> ok I'll have a look thank you
[09:03] <livingdaylight> (19:00:32) livingdaylight: i need help with unserstanding which is the best option to reinstall or recover Grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:03] <CromagDK> i just dont see it
[09:03] <UbuntuNoob> eventually someone will see it and hopefull answer it
[09:03] <Rico> livingdaylight: do the first option
[09:04] <livingdaylight> thx UbuntuNoob
[09:04] <livingdaylight> CromagDK: do youse it now?
[09:04] <Flannel> livingdaylight: Whats your question with the methods?
[09:04] <CromagDK> livingdaylight: jep
[09:04] <CromagDK> livingdaylight: looks like Flannel did to
[09:04] <livingdaylight> Flannel: thx. which is the best method?
[09:04] <livingdaylight> and...
[09:04] <Flannel> livingdaylight: depends on what you did, and which CDs you have
[09:04] <livingdaylight> This will be  dev/discs/disc0/partX, where the X is a partition number.
[09:04] <mikeo1> how come my username no longer has permissions to access windows drives?
[09:05] <Flannel> mikeo1: check your fstab of them
[09:05] <mikeo1> i can access them as root... but thats not good for long term
[09:05] <livingdaylight> Flannel: let me tell yo uwhat i did
[09:05] <carlo_> anyone able to tell me why I can not open .bash_profile with gedit and seem to be totally unable to modify the file?
[09:05] <livingdaylight> Flannel: i got two sata drives. I have ubuntu on sda and i installed another linux os on sdb
[09:05] <Flannel> mikeo1: the umask, you'll want to change, in your fstab
[09:05] <bolrod> if you reconfigure grub.. does it autodetect every installation?
[09:05] <livingdaylight> Flannel: but lilo on sdb wiped my ubuntu grub on sda
[09:05] <mikeo1> dont see umask in fstab
[09:06] <livingdaylight> Flannel: are you following?
[09:06] <livingdaylight> Flannel: and i have ubuntu live cd
[09:06] <mikeo1> i see /dev/sdc1       /media/sdc1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[09:06] <livingdaylight> Flannel: in the first solution of the help guide i don't understand : This will be  dev/discs/disc0/partX, where the X is a partition number.
[09:06] <Flannel> livingdaylight: thats... random.  Anyway, just reinstall grub, it'll see the second and put an entry in for it, -- you use the "using the ubuntu live CD" section
[09:07] <Gargoyle> Can anyone help with saslauthd using rimap? It is sending user=paul and realm=domain.name but dovecot is expecting user=paul@domain.name
[09:07] <Gargoyle> Any ideas?
[09:07] <livingdaylight> Flannel: what is random? so, which solution do i use to reinstall grub? the first?
[09:08] <salim> I'm a java and c++ developer, using also Qt (4), svn, and so on - but when I type gcc or g++ or java, it says command not found - is there somehwere a tutorial which tells me what I need and how I can install them (and what I dont need) - since I dont want to install everything which looks good but I will never use...
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Flannel: could you tell me what is: This will be  dev/discs/disc0/partX, where the X is a partition number.
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Flannel: dev/discs/disc/sda1 for example?
[09:08] <Subhuman> salim, you need to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:08] <Subhuman> to get the gcc compiliers etc.
[09:08] <brian98> salim: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:08] <Flannel> livingdaylight: use the "Using the LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"
[09:08] <brian98> what he says
[09:08] <brian98> :)
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Flannel: or do i replace discs/disc with somethin gelse
[09:08] <Subhuman> salim, you all need the java sdk
[09:08] <Subhuman> !java
[09:08] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:08] <fdoving> salim: for gcc and g++, install the 'build-essential' package, for java see. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:09] <bluefusionxl> What program is the "mail" function handled by?  As in typing mail in the command line
[09:09] <Flannel> livingdaylight: you should have a sdXY for those disks, where X is a letter and Y is a number
[09:09] <salim> thank you
[09:09] <livingdaylight> Flannel: that is the second suggestion/solution, yes? but i am scared to follow that method and prefer to try an alternative
[09:09] <slytherin> ANyone here doing any sort of GTK+ programming? I need help with GtkActionEntry and stock items
[09:09] <Flannel> livingdaylight: what alternative?
[09:09] <jk_> Hello everybody, i'm new here and facing an stange problem: i own  a TV-Card from Pinnacle called PCTV Stereo. It has a saa7134 Chip on the board. The Card is working correctly with XawTV,TVTime and others. But with MythTV i see only green strips.
[09:09] <livingdaylight> Flannel: like the first solution on the help guide
[09:10] <Rico> the first one worked for me, do that
[09:10] <salim> only 12MB? great... :-) lol
[09:10] <Flannel> slytherin: you might try #gtk
[09:10] <Rico> is there a good alternative to the default image viewer for animated gifs?
[09:10] <livingdaylight> Flannel: instead of going throught the installation process in method 2 i can type rescue
[09:10] <mikeo1> how come my username no longer has permissions to access windows drives?
[09:10] <mikeo1> i can access them as root... but thats not good for long term
[09:10] <bluefusionxl> What program is the "mail" function handled by?  As in typing mail in the command line
[09:10] <slytherin> Flannel: On which network? Freenode?
[09:10] <livingdaylight> Flannel: and follow method 1?
[09:10] <salim> I was a SuSE Linux user, so that's why maybe I'll ask several questions for the next time
[09:10] <Flannel> livingdaylight: No, it's the fourth solution, not the second
[09:10] <mikeo1> where do i add umask to fstab?
[09:10] <`Lam> is there a way to have two partitions actively booted up without VMware use or would that screw with the boot sequence too much?
[09:10] <Flannel> slytherin: right.
[09:11] <eSPete__> nogle som kan hjlpe med lidt shell scrioting?
[09:11] <Flannel> mikeo1: it's either in place of, or in addition to, the 'default'  I'm not sure which, man page should tell you though
[09:11] <CromagDK> !dk
[09:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu diskussion paa dansk kan foeres i #ubuntu-dk
[09:12] <livingdaylight> Flannel: 4th solution? could you pastebin that please, i'm confused which you mean now?
[09:12] <Flannel> livingdaylight: 'Using the LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader'  find that text
[09:12] <Moo_Moo> http://wlserver1-he.gindis.com/modules.php?name=WLAccount&file=visitor&op=game&userid=MzU4Ng== Gindis game the best game ever , if anyone get into, in down of page have flags choice flags on language u want play
[09:12] <livingdaylight> Flannel: why cant you help me the way i ask?
[09:13] <bluefusionxl> What program is the "mail" function handled by?  As in typing mail in the command line
[09:13] <Flannel> livingdaylight: It's multiple lines, I'm not going to paste it
[09:13] <livingdaylight> Flannel: that is not the 4th solution
[09:13] <livingdaylight> Flannel: why can't you pastebinit for my clarity's sake?
[09:13] <Flannel> livingdaylight: yes it is.  theres two using the install CD, then using the liveCD preserving, and then using the live while overwriting.
[09:13] <anon32> bluefusionxl: um... mail?
[09:14] <Flannel> livingdaylight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-5dbdd6b5302831ed4335bd0b7387ffcad2543857
[09:14] <jk_> nobody has an idea?
[09:15] <foo> I installed ubuntu server and then I installed fluxbox ... but my background doesn't get set with my style. Any ideas? I think it's ubuntu related, maybe a package I am missing.
[09:15] <SeNtiX> !screen
[09:15] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:15] <livingdaylight> Flannel: thx. and do i follow that method to the letter, or do i replace hd0 with sd0 considering i use sata drives?
[09:15] <SeNtiX> !screenie
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <edulix> hi, which package do
[09:16] <Flannel> foo: that'd be entirely fluxbox related.  you might try #fluxbox
[09:16] <foo> Flannel: ah, ok
[09:16] <salim> why am I asked for a password when I type sudo?
[09:16] <Flannel> salim: you're asked for your user password
[09:16] <edulix> hi, which package does contain /usr/src/linux-2.6.....tar.gz ?
[09:16] <salim> I see
[09:16] <Flannel> !tell salim about sudo
[09:16] <salim> !kontact
[09:16] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1547 kB, installed size 3300 kB
[09:17] <J-_> how can i listen to wma's in xmms? is there an encoder or whatever i can download? if so, what is it?
[09:17] <CromagDK> !codecs
[09:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <ompaul> Ricardo, back
[09:18] <livingdaylight> Flannel ?i have sata's do i follow that to the letter or do i need to adjust?
[09:18] <salim> can I just install kontact?
[09:18] <Garsty> does anyone know any guide on compiling wx applications? I get an error on setup.h missing and in KDevelop wxWidgets template does compile, but it says that some library is missing when trying to runn it
[09:18] <Flannel> livingdaylight: no, its hd
[09:18] <edulix> I thought there was a linux-sources package but I cannot find it in apt
[09:18] <salim> in SuSE Linux I used Kontact, all my emails are in there - I also want to use it under Xubuntu, possible?
[09:19] <Flannel> !tell edulix about kernel
[09:19] <Flannel> salim: sure, install kontact
[09:19] <nownott> when i boot i get the following error /bin/sh: can not access the job: control turned off
[09:19] <nownott> and it stopes, any ideas?
[09:20] <salim> but I'm wondering, when I mark it for installing, it doesnt say: "you need kmail"
[09:20] <salim> "korganizer", and so on
[09:20] <Flannel> salim: heh, is KDEs office viral like that?  then you'll need to install those as well
[09:21] <Raul654> question - I have a Dapper server. I just added the NIC driver to the /etc/modules, so when it boots, I run ifconfig, and eth1 exists. How do I configure it to run DHCP on eth1?
[09:21] <Raul654> (at boot time)
[09:21] <Flannel> salim: no, wait.  it recommends, not requires.
[09:21] <Raul654> do I use a crontab for that? Or some other way?
[09:21] <salim> Flannel: what does that mean?
[09:21] <Flannel> salim: theyre not required
[09:22] <salim> but I guess I need them
[09:22] <foo> hm, anyone use partimage? Can it copy a partition from one drive to another?
[09:22] <Flannel> why do you suppose that?
[09:22] <Raul654> Note: When it runs, I run ifconfig -a, and it eth1 exists; ifconfig (with no -a) doesn't show eth1
[09:22] <djperegrine> I have a WUSBv3 usb wifi adapter
[09:22] <Shadowpillar> anyone here ever play with runit?
[09:22] <djperegrine> how can I get it to work :O
[09:22] <salim> omg, it wants to install libarts when I want to install Kontact! what should I do?
[09:22] <Flannel> salim: libarts is required
[09:22] <Raditz> ^^
[09:22] <ravenous> how do you expect it to run without kde libs
[09:23] <Flannel> salim: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/kontact
[09:23] <salim> but arts is shit
[09:23] <nownott> anyone ever heard of a fix for my situation
[09:23] <salim> but it wont make my system use arts, is it?
[09:24] <stahnma> can someone tell me how to rename what a drive shows up as on the gnome desktop?
[09:24] <ravenous> kontact is going to try to
[09:24] <stahnma> I have tried e2label with no luck
[09:24] <stahnma> and of course /etc/fstab
[09:24] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott: It would help to know what all you did before the problem.. Ever use Automatix, easyubuntu.. add repos install from other sources
[09:25] <Raul654> What is the proper way for enabling dhcpclient?
[09:25] <Raul654> Crontab? Uncomment a line in a boot script? What?
[09:25] <livingdaylight> Flannel: in that section #5 says type setup (hd0) or whatever your hd nr is if my hd is sda1 do i type hd1??
[09:25] <wohej> Hi, is there a decent way I can redo apache+php from scratch with configs and all, without doing a complete reinstall?
[09:26] <nownott> well i used easyubunty and automatix and it worked fine, then on another partition i tried to insatll vista everythign went crazy i finally got grub to work, my win partition will boot but ubuntu freezes on that
[09:26] <livingdaylight> Flannel: why don't i just download an Ubuntu Install CD as i'm told i may need that anyways
[09:26] <erUSUL> Raul654: in /etc/network/interfaces the line concerning your card should have a dhcp ("iface eth1 inet dhcp")
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott: That is the kind of information that is helpful
[09:27] <Raul654> er - AHA. It's set for eth0
[09:27] <Raul654> When I am using eth1
[09:27] <nownott> Jack_Sparrow is that sarcaism or is that really usefull
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott: It is very helpfull
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott: We do NOT recommend those scripts for a reason
[09:28] <SV452> hay all
[09:28] <nownott> so your saying those scripts screwed everything up?
[09:28] <RMorris84> i need help with vmware, i got it installed and running win2k but i dont have internet and i want to know how to make it full screen on its own workspace.
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott: They did NOT help
[09:28] <livingdaylight> Flannel: ?
[09:29] <carlo_> anyone able to help me understand how to modify .bashrc?
[09:29] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott: I would not know where to start untangling that mess
[09:29] <livingdaylight> carlo_: hablas espanol?
[09:29] <nownott> lol, ok well i see, but ubuntu did work after i used them, its just when i started the whole vista thing
[09:29] <SV452> does anybody know of some program that can be used to connect to remote desktops using the remote assistance for windows from linux except for vnc and remote desktop... ?
[09:29] <livingdaylight> nownott: is vista better than Ubuntu?
[09:30] <nownott> matter of opinion, in mine now, but i wanted to see what everyone was talking about
[09:30] <SV452> or that can hookup to existing session?
[09:30] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott:Maybe you should ask in Vista, Windows or Automatix or easyubuntu
[09:30] <nownott> i ment in mine no
[09:30] <SonicChao> Why can't I play wma? I could a few days ago. I noticed w32codecs wasn't installed, so I installed it  BUT STILL can't play .wma
[09:31] <livingdaylight> vicscandl: i heard vista is really good
[09:31] <nownott> but what does can not access tty mean
[09:31] <vicscandl> i can't wait to see all the vista viri once that hits mass consumption.
[09:31] <SonicChao> I know.
[09:31] <SonicChao> Vista.BillGates.Virus XP
[09:31] <AlReece45> Which process is supposed to handle the connecting and disconnecting of USB devices?
[09:31] <kads> Where can I find a cross comipler for C++ that will compile generic C++ for windows?
[09:31] <SonicChao> kads: ##windows
[09:31] <carlo_> livingdaylight: hablo poquito espanol.
[09:31] <kads> thx
[09:31] <vicscandl> not to downplay anything that m$ does (i am a unix nerd) but they should do what the Apple Mac has done...
[09:32] <vicscandl> then i *may* start using their stuff.
[09:32] <maple1> is there ANY solution to flash audio and video not syncing?
[09:32] <AlReece45> I'm trying to get off their stuff.
[09:32] <wohej> Hrmm... can I use apt-get to remove all instances of apache and PHP, mysql etc?
[09:33] <baconbacon> that should be dragged to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:33] <livingdaylight> vicscandl: i'm starting a Linux Anonymous club
[09:33] <livingdaylight> there is too much denial
[09:33] <jaysef> please can someone give me some help installing the kernel sources so that i can build madwifi against it
[09:33] <vicscandl> sorry baconbacon, i'll stop.
[09:33] <nownott> Jack_Sparrow so basically im screwed and reinstall
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !madwifi
[09:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:33] <kads> SonicChao they tell me to come here
[09:33] <AlReece45> So, anyone know which process, if any, is supposed to handle connnect/disconnections of usb devices
[09:33] <AlReece45> ?
[09:33] <thephunkizm> I just got Ubuntu 6.06 installed and working, but i've noticed that the device manager in Gnome does not recognize my processor (AMD Athlon64).  Does anyone know why?
[09:33] <livingdaylight> baconbacon: i have alot of on-topic quesitosn but no one is willing to help
[09:34] <kads> thephunkizm
[09:34] <SonicChao> Um, any reason why wma doesn't work anymore (even after w32codecs is installed?)?
[09:34] <kads> thephunkizm: do u have ubuntu 6.06 64 amd
[09:34] <scifi> anyone here use webyog mysql gui ?
[09:34] <baconbacon> AlReece45: that would be HAL, which is not really a process
[09:34] <thephunkizm> kads:   yes
[09:34] <AlReece45> eh
[09:34] <Flannel> livingdaylight: No, you don't.  What CD do you have?
[09:35] <ravenous> jaysef: the package is just linux-source, so sudo apt-get install linux-source
[09:35] <livingdaylight> Flannel: i have the live cd but inteh section you recommended i'm led to understand that the method may or may not work and that i might need the Installion cd after all
[09:35] <jaysef> ravenous thanks ill try that
[09:36] <Flannel> livingdaylight: By installation CD, you mean you downloaded the alternate ISO, right?
[09:36] <AlReece45> What would stop Ubuntu from registering USB devices?
[09:36] <livingdaylight> Flannel: also i asked about point 5) of that section. It says : type "setup (hd0) " or whatever your hd nr is
[09:36] <Raul654> Ok, thanks everyone
[09:36] <Raul654> my problem is solved
[09:36] <jaysef> ravenous: that worked..how would i build my madwifi against it ?
[09:36] <livingdaylight> Flannel: what is (hd0) for me? sda1?
[09:37] <nownott> ok well another question, writing to ntfs, is that still a big no no dont do, or is it safe enought to trust w/ critical data now
[09:37] <ravenous> jaysef: what do you mean against it? if it needs it to compile it will find it
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> AlReece45: THere are a lot of non-standard usb devices out there, what are you trying to install?
[09:37] <SV452> how can i do remote assistance from my linux box to windowz box ??? besides using vnc or remote desktop... ?
[09:37] <TheGateKeeper> thephunkizm: for your enjoyment ---> http://en.jakilinux.org/linux/ubuntu/kubuntu-606-on-athlon-64/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:37] <ravenous> nownott: still not officially supported so if it breaks everyone's going to give you an 'i told you so'
[09:37] <thephunkizm> TheGateKeeper:  thanks, i'll check it out.
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> nownott: NOt a good idea to write to ntfs with critical data on that drive
[09:37] <livingdaylight> Flannel: no, i haven't downloaded the alternate iso but that is what i assume is meant by Installation CD opposed to LiveCd
[09:38] <Rico> nownott: the current choice for ntfs drivers wrap around window's ntfs.sys, and they're quite safe - but i wouldn't rely on them without backups
[09:38] <Marsmensch> !pastebin
[09:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:38] <nownott> that is the main reason i still have windows and use it, b/c of that all my data 350gb drive ntfs all my data
[09:38] <AlReece45> The USB mouse (microsoft wireless notebook optical mouse 4000) I have stops working shortly after startup, after that linux won't detect any other USB devices I plug in.
[09:39] <Rico> nownott: it's really not a good idea to mount that as writable, then
[09:39] <Flannel> livingdaylight: right.  You'd actually probably be better served getting the grub CD
[09:39] <livingdaylight> Flannel: oh, geezus
[09:39] <ryanakca> aptitude is installed by default, right? seeing that it's in the ubuntu-minimal metapackage?
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> AlReece45: I feel a clue would be in the manufacturer of your wireless mouse
[09:39] <Flannel> ryanakca: yes
[09:39] <TheGateKeeper> thephunkizm: hope you find it usefull :-)
[09:39] <ryanakca> Flannel: kk
[09:40] <grimboy> Hey, I've written a script to swap xorg.conf files and restart gdm at http://pastebin.ca/166297 however it seems to freeze up X. When I just try running the first two lines (killall gdm) then it works fine. I'm woundering if there is a way to wait until gdm has been killed before doing anything else. Can anyone help?
[09:40] <scifi> hi guys, anyone use SQLyog here ?
[09:41] <livingdaylight> Flannel: please, could you give me the exact link of the download i need
[09:41] <AlReece45> Jack_Sparrow: I thought of that as well, but my Targus mouse has the same effect and according to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221668 it works.
[09:42] <Flannel> livingdaylight: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php
[09:43] <pbeck_> hey does anyone know what dh_testdir does and how i can get it?
[09:43] <livingdaylight> Flannel: lol, yea, i got that already, but on there are options, what is cd in bzip2 format?
[09:43] <pbeck_> i'm having problems with enabling dvd on mplayer
[09:44] <livingdaylight> Flannel: do i just extract the bzip2 and then its ready to burn?
[09:44] <pbeck_> make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[09:44] <fokuslee> !hi all
[09:44] <Flannel> livingdaylight: it's a zipped CD, right.. There should be an iso in there.
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi all - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <bam_> Hi...I was wondering something. I am considering buying a Creative Zen Vision W(60GB with 4.3" screen). First I am wondering if you guys have any comments. And secondly, I was wondering how hard it would be to put linux on a portable device like an mp3 player?
[09:45] <jaysef> please can someone help me: when i do the " make " command i get errors
[09:45] <Flannel> livingdaylight: so, if you don't have a bz2 unzip thing you'll need to grab a different one.
[09:45] <salim> when I try to get my mail with Kontact, it says "could not start process pop3"
[09:46] <fokuslee> hey nub question what should i use to listen to shoutcast?
[09:47] <cornflake> does anyone know how to get esd and artsd to play simultaneously? or just get all the kde apps to use esd?
[09:47] <bam_> Is there anyway I could get rid of these "* has joined #ubuntu" and "* har left #ubuntu" ?
[09:48] <erUSUL> cornflake: they are mutually exclusive apps you can no run the simultaniusly afaics (maybe with the dmix plugin of alsa you can)
[09:48] <erUSUL> bam_: waht client are you using
[09:48] <erUSUL> ?
[09:49] <prg2020> Does anyone know how to set the network-manager applet to connect to only particular wireless networks?  It detects any in range and then throws up a key-ring password request for EACH locked network it finds.
[09:49] <bam_> XChat
[09:49] <cornflake> erUSUL, well... how would u get kde apps to use esd?
[09:50] <prg2020> Oh, and then it fails to connect to any.  I have to manually select my network each time to make the connection.
[09:50] <foo> I am trying to ghost a drive with dd. I made a partition on one drive around the same size as the partition I want to ghost (copy/duplicate) with cfdisk. Then I did dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 ... and I can't boot into the drive, but I can mount it under linux and I could see the files. The system hangs at Veriying DMI pool data. Any ideas?
[09:51] <a_l_e> hello, i have a problem connecting with ssh to my ubuntu box. i guess that it's related to some ipv6 problem... but i can't solve it. can anybody help me?
[09:51] <jaysef> please how do i set my kernel path
[09:51] <erUSUL> bam_: right click on the channel tab and uncheck show join/part msgs
[09:51] <erUSUL> cornflake: i do not know i do not use kde...
[09:52] <cornflake> erUSUL, well... i figured it out :-D
[09:52] <erUSUL> foo: maybe is a better idea to use partimage
[09:52] <bam_> thx that was really bothering me.
[09:52] <a_l_e> i've already tried let sshd not to use the ipv6 addresses and to desable ipv6 for the whole system, but it didn't team to help / work.
[09:52] <ubuntu> hi all
[09:52] <livingdaylight> Flannel: they're all in bzip2 files for some bizarre reason. do you know the commandto unzip? I'm right clicking on the bzip2 file and doing extract but then don't find anything in the folder. so maybe extract is tnot the way to go. Have you got the command for me to try in command line?
[09:52] <foo> erUSUL: Does that do drive to drive ghosting? I looked around with it but I didn't seem to get it
[09:52] <foo> hm
[09:53] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: bunzip
[09:53] <a_l_e> i can use cyberduck to do some ftp over ssh (but very slowly) but i can't connect with the mac own ssh client.
[09:54] <livingdaylight> erUSUL: bunzip name_of_iso.bzip2 ? in root?
[09:54] <jaysef> im trying to use the ' make ' command, im getting errors about setting my kernel path...please can anyine help
[09:54] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: no need to be root
[09:54] <djperegrine> ok I can't get internet to my box and I have a WUSB11 v3
[09:54] <djperegrine> I want to use ndiswrapper
[09:55] <AlReece45> If dmesg doesn't report any errors, where else can I look to find errors on USB devices?
[09:55] <erUSUL> jaysef: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[09:55] <flowtron> hi all
[09:55] <djperegrine> should I burn a cd of the ndiswrapper source code or something?
[09:55] <jaysef> erUSUL paste that into command line ?
[09:55] <livingdaylight> erUSUL: bad command bunzip sgd_0.9428.iso.bz2
[09:56] <djperegrine> cause right now when I do sudo ndiswrapper -i NETUSB.inf it says command not found
[09:56] <erUSUL> jaysef: yes
[09:56] <flowtron> I have a problem with my xsession - it doesn't get loaded anymore. If I manually start it from the failsafe session it works, how can I fix this? google & forums were no help :(
[09:56] <jaysef> erUSUL thanks
[09:57] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: bunzip2
[09:57] <livingdaylight> erUSUL: ? is there another command for .bz2 file?
[09:57] <UbuntuNoob> how do i get totem to play DVDs in Ubuntu?
once u log in to the fail safe go to System > Preferences >Sessions
[09:57] <livingdaylight> erUSUL: ah.:)
[09:57] <erUSUL> !dvd
[09:57] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:57] <jaysef> erUSUL its working,
[09:57] <jaysef> yippee
[09:57] <UbuntuNoob> thanks ubotu
[09:57] <Abst> Is there any way to get flash8 for linux?
[09:57] <a_l_e> you can get here the output from "tail -n 100 /var/log/auth.log | grep sshd" which shows sshd let's cyberduck in, but not the ssh client (timeout error): http://pastebin.ca/166319
[09:57] <erUSUL> Abst: no
[09:57] <Abst> Aaah!
[09:57] <ravenous> Abst: it doesnt even exist
[09:57] <Abst> :/
[09:58] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - and then, I created a new session, it even created a default one after restart, but problem remains
[09:58] <erUSUL> Abst: there is no flash 8 for linux v9 will be aviable though
[09:58] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE I also tried adding "gnome-session" to the startup jobs, to no avail
[09:58] <Abst> Whens V9 coming out?
[09:58] <ravenous> Abst; they claim first quarter of '07
 k, did u add startx
[09:58] <erUSUL> Abst: ask adobe ;)
[09:58] <Abst> Gah
[09:59] <Abst> This almost makes me want to switch back
[09:59] <Abst> Meh
[09:59] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - startx? in my gnome-session startup? this makes no sense to me ...
[09:59] <AlReece45> a_I_e: can you ping the ubuntu machine from the computer your connecting from?
[09:59] <AlReece45> Abst: At least your hardware works.
[09:59] <foo> erUSUL: Would you happen to know?
 so when it loads up it will run the startx command responseable for your gui :)
[09:59] <Simba> what to do if network-admin returns 'invalid password' even if I start the application with sudo ?
[10:00] <ExitMenu> hello, I am trying to use the : civclient-xaw3d but I get the error message -> 0: Unable to open fontset: -*-*-*-*-*--14-* I guess this means I am missing a font but how do I work out which one
[10:00] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE I only know startx as a cmd to run kde (or other wm)
gnome-session runs on top of X11 as far as i know
[10:00] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - yes, well it /should/ but it don't for me, since I started tweaking my configs to allow for nvidia drivers in X
[10:00] <madcow> Hello, I need help getting my ipod to work properly
startx is the X11 display it is not uniquely for kde wm
[10:01] <madcow> I have tried several tutorial but nothing
[10:01] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE, yes - I know. I usually do /etc/init.d/gdm restart for this ...
k
[10:01] <corvax> hey im having troublr cooneting to a router to set it up
[10:01] <Paddy_EIRE> let me think
[10:01] <gok> hi !
[10:01] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - the prob is - I get the msg - "could not start your session" - using failsafe
[10:01] <madcow> Hello any IPOD users????
[10:01] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - then I get the basic terminal
[10:02] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - if I enter "gnome-session" there, everything is fine
[10:02] <madcow> Hello any IPOD users????
[10:02] <ravenous> madcow: yes
[10:02] <erUSUL> foo: i've never used partimage myself...
 where is the startup sessipon config for YOUR session and not the default have u got this on pastebin
[10:02] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - so I just want to know, where to fix this starting of gnome-session, since it requires a display to run - it doesn't from the console
[10:02] <madcow> hello ravenous
[10:02] <sl021> madcow as in dr.madcow?
[10:02] <foo> erUSUL: ah, thanks
[10:02] <corvax> the routers ip is 192.168.0.1 i set my network cars to be static 192.168.0.5 and set the gateway as 192.168.0.1 subnet is 255.255.255.0
[10:03] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE - dunno what you mean - ~/.Xsession or what?
[10:03] <josh_> who can answer some apache questions in here?
[10:03] <madcow> I have tried tutorials but mothing works, no not Dr. Madcow
[10:03] <sl021> o ok
[10:03] <sl021> lol
[10:03] <corvax> i try to use firefx to connect to the router but it wont connect
wait one sec gonna ask a mate on messenger
[10:03] <madcow> I have installed gtkpod and ipodder
[10:03] <corvax> any ideas
[10:03] <AlReece45> corvax: can you ping the router?
[10:03] <josh_> corvax: i dont think that is your routers ip
[10:03] <josh_> try 192.168.1.1
[10:04] <josh_> or 192.168.1.2
[10:04] <sl021> how would i install xmms-skins-1.2.10-1.1.fr.i386.rpm
[10:04] <corvax> 1 sec
[10:04] <corvax> im bringing it up
[10:04] <madcow> i believe the trouble is mounting ipod, though I can access through computer
[10:04] <corvax> yes it is my routers ip
[10:04] <corvax> its an old dlink
[10:04] <josh_> ahh
 he aint sure either maybe i wouldnt be the best person to ask i only really have ati experience
[10:04] <PhillipElHaxor> mmm
[10:04] <flowtron> Paddy_EIRE, ok. thanks anyway :)
[10:05] <PhillipElHaxor> i can't seem to get rtorrent to install
[10:05] <josh_> anyone know apache?
[10:05] <Paddy_EIRE> no probs ill google around for u in the mean time who knows
[10:05] <AlReece45> Can anyone help me fixing a USB mouse? it starts working and tehn stops shortly after starting up.
[10:05] <AlReece45> corvax: can you ping your router?
[10:05] <flowtron> How can I start "gnome-session" by default - it used to work before I started tweaking my config ... anybody have a solution? forums & google were no help
[10:05] <madcow> Hello ravenous??
[10:05] <corvax> cant ping
[10:05] <corvax> it
[10:06] <corvax> nope
[10:06] <ravenous> madcow: i dont have much experience with it, mine works by mounting in console then running gtkpod with gksudo
[10:06] <ravenous> never had to do anything else
[10:06] <AlReece45> corvax: what's the error when pinging it
[10:06] <flowtron> corvax : ifconfig - set up correctly? route set up correctly?
[10:06] <madcow> what is command for mounting it in console
[10:07] <AlReece45> madcow: mount
[10:07] <kads> thx to all minGW works like a charm
[10:07] <gok> Problem With JMICRON , CDROM Drive unavailable ! :-(  Somebody know this problem ???
[10:07] <ravenous> madcow: depends on what device it is, but i do 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/ipod'
[10:07] <madcow> "mount"  all by itself not mount dev/hds2
[10:07] <corvax> 14 packets sent o recieved +12 errors 100% packet
[10:08] <corvax> loss
[10:08] <emerge> .
[10:08] <flowtron> corvax - ifconfig - is the IP in your local network? (eth0 probably)
[10:08] <erUSUL> gok: you will need a fairly recent kernel i'm afraid (you have a jmicron chip with only one pata (ide) port no?)
[10:08] <wohej> Hrmm... can I use apt-get to remove all instances of apache and PHP, mysql etc?
[10:08] <corvax> hah
[10:08] <flowtron> corvax - route - does the default route go to your router?
[10:08] <corvax> i got it
[10:08] <madcow> when I do that it says "mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:08] <madcow> "
[10:08] <corvax> hang on
[10:08] <AlReece45> Since no one knows about the mouse problem, can anyone help me with the network problem that goes with it? The ubuntu network functions stop working the instant the mouse stops working.
[10:09] <wohej> or can I redo all configs from scratch kinda? They are borked :\
[10:09] <madcow> when I mount it says ".mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[10:09] <corvax> i had the cord in the wan port
[10:09] <erUSUL> wohej: use synaptic and mark all this package for removal then aply changes
[10:09] <corvax> by mistake
[10:09] <flowtron> I'd like some help @ gnome-session, anybody knowlegeable about this?
[10:09] <corvax> hehe
[10:09] <gok> erUSUL: 2 SATA HD => ICH8 +  CDROM Drive IDE => JMICRON... i cant install Ubuntu ;-(
[10:09] <GNeRaL> hi
[10:09] <AlReece45> madcow: what type of file system are you mounting?
[10:09] <ravenous> madcow: no clue, your ipod may be formatted to something else, it doesnt ask me that
[10:09] <flowtron> corvax - LOL :)
[10:09] <AlReece45> madcow: nm
[10:10] <erUSUL> AlReece45: take a look at the logs ( /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog )
[10:10] <goldfish> display res problem help
[10:10] <ravenous> !fixres
[10:10] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:10] <lfhb> any extra step after installation on dual core intel?
[10:10] <corvax> i grabbed another ehternet cord cause i make my own
[10:10] <corvax> i thought maye it was a dud
[10:10] <erUSUL> gok: the chip is fairly recent so you will need a more recent kernel to detect it.
[10:10] <corvax> and then i noticed it
[10:10] <GNeRaL> i cant play mp3 (Legal) , I using mplayer , how to fix ? I've error: You will not be able to use your remote control.
[10:10] <flowtron> !gnome-session
[10:10] <ubotu> gnome-session: The GNOME 2 Session Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 232 kB, installed size 2372 kB
[10:10] <erUSUL> !install > gok
[10:10] <corvax> lol
[10:11] <goldfish> setup gfx drivers on friend crt have now plug my lcd and only get 1024x768 60
[10:11] <erUSUL> gok: see the ubotu pm
[10:11] <goldfish> change xconf to say 1280x1024 but its now 1280x1024 @47hz
[10:11] <goldfish> any ideas
[10:11] <gok> erUSUL: can i make livecd with recent kernel ?
[10:12] <flowtron> why does /etc/gdm/Xsession always put me into failsafe? any help?
[10:12] <tib> good night, i am new to ubuntu and i have a very simple question: what is the package that contains glibc's .h files ?
[10:12] <gok> erUSUL: i burn edgy 6.10 amd64 this morning (100906 version) ... same problem !
[10:12] <wohej> erUSUL: This is on a server, I can't install X on it :|
[10:12] <flowtron> maybe problem is due to a system freeze, ... manual start of gnome-session fixes my failsafe session, but it's a hassle
[10:13] <erUSUL> wohej: ???!!!
[10:13] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> is there any way to copy iso to partition and boot it?
[10:13] <flowtron> tib - libc6-dev or something
[10:13] <Dybber> Where do I find the package dhcp-server. (which repository?)
[10:13] <livingdaylight> anyone know graveman burner client?
[10:13] <wohej> erUSUL: Datacenter is idiotic.
[10:13] <goldfish> how do i get my 60hz back?
[10:13] <ravenous> !info dhcp-server
[10:13] <ubotu> Package dhcp-server does not exist in any distro I know
[10:13] <flowtron> packages.ubuntu.org is your frienbd Dybber
[10:13] <flowtron> packages.ubuntulinux.org is your frienbd Dybber
[10:13] <livingdaylight> erUSUL: i don't know whether to tick burn on the fly?
[10:13] <erUSUL> wohej: why are you adressing me?
[10:14] <flowtron> !info dhcp3
[10:14] <ubotu> Package dhcp3 does not exist in any distro I know
[10:14] <wohej> erUSUL: Because you told me to use synaptic
[10:14] <flowtron> !info dhcp
[10:14] <erUSUL> gok: in the install page ogf the wiki there are alternate metods for machines that can not boot from cd
[10:14] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB
[10:14] <tib> flowtron: THANKS !
[10:15] <gre1_ON_WINDOES> is there any way to copy iso to partition and boot it?
[10:15] <flowtron> howto : fix gnome-session not being run anymore by default :(
[10:15] <Dybber> thank you flowtron, do you think its dhcp3-server I need? (im about to do a PXE installation)
[10:15] <flowtron> ger1_On_WINDOES : cdrecord
[10:15] <gok> erUSUL: floppy disk = JMICRON :-(
[10:16] <flowtron> Dybber - I used dhcp3 on debian woody ... dunno which is better, best to google around a little - sorry, not my field :)
[10:16] <erUSUL> wohej: the you will have to use aptitude or apt-get and a little bit of patience... maybe dselect (curses based can help you)
[10:16] <Simba> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:  Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed <-- any suggestions? I'm trying to run network-admin ..
[10:16] <niruana> Hi all, how do i move my screen on my laptop 5pixels to the left? Its correct in windows but not in Linux
[10:16] <gok> erUSUL: If i buy CRDROM drive SATA to connect on ICH8R it's ok ? ubuntu can work with ICH8R ?
[10:16] <ax> so, i want to run my own version of vim, if i try to apt-get remove vim i am told i will remove ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal
[10:17] <ax> which i figure might be nessisary?
[10:17] <lfhb> how do i get most of my dual core intel machine? does ubuntu install with dual core support?
[10:17] <neildarlow> lfhb: the standard kernels have SMP support. it should work automatically
[10:18] <erUSUL> gok: i do not know but it may be no worth it... (do not know if linux support sate cdroms)
[10:18] <lfhb> neildarlow: is there a way to check ? :) sorry i am new
[10:18] <flowtron> gnome-session problem, seen a lot of posts, but no solutions on the interwebs ... any help appreciated
[10:18] <jchillerup> Hi. Why does badblocks claim that /dev/hda is in use by the system, when it's not mounted?
[10:18] <gok> erUSUL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows  <== i can try this .. thanks
[10:18] <neildarlow> lfhb: do a "dmesg |less" and look at the early stuff
[10:19] <erUSUL> wohej: aptitude is a curses based front-en to apt it may be what you are looking for
[10:19] <erUSUL> gok: no problem
[10:19] <gok> see ya
[10:19] <fokuslee> hey anyone know a good program for listening to shoutcast?
[10:20] <tortuga>  /server irc.brasnet.org
[10:20] <niruana> smb://moscow/Movies/%3D%3D%3D%3D%20NOG%20TE%20ZIEN%20%3D%3D%3D%3D/666.The.Child.(2006).STV.DVDRip.XViD-66G.SVCDPlaza.avi
[10:20] <niruana> smb://moscow/Movies/%3D%3D%3D%3D%20NOG%20TE%20ZIEN%20%3D%3D%3D%3D/Akeelah.And.The.Bee.(2006).DVDRip.XViD-DiAMOND.SVCDPlaza.avi
[10:20] <niruana> smb://moscow/Movies/%3D%3D%3D%3D%20NOG%20TE%20ZIEN%20%3D%3D%3D%3D/Dorm.Daze.2.(2006).XViD.bestdivx.%5BSVCDPlaza.Com%5D.avi
[10:20] <lfhb> neildarlow: WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored. help
[10:20] <niruana> smb://moscow/Movies/%3D%3D%3D%3D%20NOG%20TE%20ZIEN%20%3D%3D%3D%3D/Friends.With.Money.(2006).REPACK.DVDRip.XViD-NeDiVX.SVCDPlaza.avi
[10:20] <ax> so, do i need ubuntu-minimal?
[10:20] <niruana> omg sorry
[10:21] <sanmarcos> why the crap does ubuntu-standard depend on popularity contest when popcorn is broken?
[10:21] <neildarlow> lfhb: which kernel are you using?
[10:21] <niruana> damn how was i able to paste this crap :S
[10:21] <fokuslee> ??
[10:21] <niruana> How do i move my screen on my laptop monitor 5pixels to the left?
[10:21] <lfhb> 2.6.15-26-386
[10:22] <sanmarcos> fuck this channel is full of newbies
[10:22] <lfhb> that is what i get when i do uname -r
[10:22] <neildarlow> lfhb: uname -a
[10:22] <erUSUL> !language > sanmarcos
[10:22] <flowtron> niruana - no software way to do it. use the on-screen-menu of your laptops screen
[10:23] <lfhb> neildarlow:Linux MyC0mput3r 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:23] <flowtron> sanmarcos - you a guru? can u help with my gnome-session issue?
[10:23] <salim> Mark Shuttleworth should do sth about the slow ubuntuforums.org homepage
[10:23] <neildarlow> niruana: xvidtune but be careful
[10:23] <niruana> flowtron: then how can you explain that its correct in windows and not in linux
[10:24] <neildarlow> lfhb: you might want to try the -686 variant
[10:24] <flowtron> niruana - different OS, different driver, different position. look at neildarlow : xvidtune might help, but be careful!
[10:25] <madcow> ravenous: thanks I had to run off for a minute, I am in teh middle off baking bread
[10:25] <flowtron> this is really intolerable ...
[10:25] <flowtron> what a chaos!
[10:25] <pojke> hi, how do i use wget to download everything in a directory where its browsable?
[10:26] <madcow> what does "nm" mean??
[10:26] <lfhb> neildarlow: i will try thanks :)
[10:26] <flowtron> wget -r ... and use "man wget" ;)
[10:26] <Rondom> pojke: donjt know how exactly, but there should be some options for this type man wget
[10:26] <Rondom> madcow: nevermind
[10:26] <pojke> yes ofcorce but i cant find the right one
[10:26] <neildarlow> pojke: wget has a fine infopage
[10:26] <madcow> Rondom: thanks
[10:27] <flowtron> anybody here know about "gnome-session"?
[10:27] <jchillerup> Hi. Why does badblocks claim that /dev/hda is in use by the system, when it's not mounted?
[10:28] <madcow> what is best ipod program in Ubuntu???
[10:28] <flowtron> jchillerup : sure it's not mounted? not one partition on that disk?
[10:28] <Merovingian> How do I recover a lost partition?
[10:28] <jchillerup> flowtron, Yes, definitely.. I even examined /proc/mounts
[10:28] <flowtron> jchillerup : and what does "mount" say?
[10:28] <Rico> madcow: amarok
[10:28] <jchillerup> Mount?
[10:29] <Rico> even if you don't use it's media player stuff, gtkpod is too much of a hassle.
[10:29] <madcow> should i uninstall gtkpod first
[10:29] <flowtron> jchillerup : yes "mount" as a command
[10:29] <Rico> you don't need to, but i would :D
[10:29] <erUSUL> Merovingian: lost partition? did you erased it?
[10:29] <niruana> is xvidtune already in ubuntu
[10:29] <jchillerup> Hang on, flowtron
[10:29] <Merovingian> erUSUL: I havent formatted it yet, I just deleted it
[10:29] <madcow> rico: sudo apt-get remove gtkpod  ???
[10:29] <ravenous> gtkpod has alot of options amarok doesnt though, if your just dragging and dropping files, fine, but for maintenance etc amarok blows
[10:30] <Merovingian> erUSUL: It was a NTFS partition
[10:30] <Rico> madcow: that will work
[10:30] <erUSUL> Merovingian: try gpart.
[10:30] <w30> niruana, use synaptic and get a program named xvidtune. With tha porgram you can move the screen to the left and then write a modline that you can put in xorg.conf
[10:30] <erUSUL> !info gpart
[10:30] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:30] <Rico> however, ravenous is right, gtkpod supports videos and stuff in its cvs version. you won't get that with amarok.
[10:30] <niruana> ok thx w30
[10:30] <madcow> will gtkpod or amorak help with the fact that IPOD won't sync
[10:30] <jchillerup> flowtron, doesn't say anything noteworthy
[10:30] <neildarlow> w30: he will have xvidtune already. it's part of X base
[10:31] <madcow> right now gtkpod is not cutting it
[10:31] <Rico> oh lol, amarok doesn't even do syncing
[10:31] <flowtron> mmh, jchillerup - then I'm as stumped as you are.
[10:31] <w30> neildarlow, oh ok thanks
[10:31] <Rico> but it actually worked, unlike gtkpod
[10:31] <jchillerup> ok
[10:31] <jchillerup> Thanks anyway, flowtron
[10:31] <kads> I can't access my printer on ubuntu for windows xp home edition!! It says access denied
[10:31] <madcow> rico: when you say it worked , what does that mean, are you able to load music to it
[10:31] <Merovingian> erUSUL: Thanks...
[10:31] <PhillipElHaxor> Hey, has anyone installed the latest rtorrent?  I'm a complete noob lookin for some help
[10:32] <flowtron> well, this channel doesn't really seem to be much of a help for anyone :) ... CU around!
[10:32] <Alteria> Hello everyone
[10:32] <Rico> madcow: you click the connect button, you see a list of songs on the ipod, you can drag songs onto and off the ipod, it all works
[10:32] <foo> err, what linux tool would you guys recommend for ghosting a drive? dd doesn't seem to be cutting it.
[10:32] <Alteria> Anyone able to assist me with some installation questions?
[10:32] <madcow> rico: using amorak??
[10:32] <Rico> yeah
[10:32] <Rico> amarok.
[10:33] <Rico> it also happens to be a kick-ass mp3 player.
[10:33] <Alteria> pm me, if you can asssit
[10:33] <kads> I use samba and I have added a user named username for the windows machine to log on to my ubuntu shared folder and that works fine, but it says access denied for the printer
[10:33] <neildarlow> foo: i use a cpio and tar bridge
[10:33] <madcow> got it I will try remove gtkpod and install amarok and see it that fixes
[10:33] <kads> the printer is HP PSC-1210
[10:33] <madcow> !amarok
[10:33] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[10:33] <salim> I cant find the java packages in synaptic, although I've activated all repositories there
[10:33] <foo> neildarlow: That sounds time consuming.
[10:33] <Qball> !gmpc
[10:33] <ubotu> gmpc: Gnome Music Player Client (graphical interface to MPD). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.0-2 (dapper), package size 122 kB, installed size 612 kB
[10:34] <eamonn> salim, did you update after enabling all the repositories?
[10:34] <Alteria> <---- needs assistance with installation of Ubuntu please pm if you have a couple minutes
[10:34] <neildarlow> foo: it can be but you can enjoy your coffee meantime :)
[10:34] <erUSUL> !info sun-java5-jre
[10:34] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[10:34] <dreameen> can u pls tell me how to disable filesystem checking on each boot up??
[10:34] <salim> eamonn: oops good idea
[10:34] <Rico> madcow: amarok doesn't do syncing though, you need to drag and drop files manually.
[10:34] <erUSUL> salim: is in multiverse
[10:34] <Qball> dreameen: it should only run every 30 mounts or 50 days (or something like that)
[10:34] <madcow> rico that is no problem
[10:35] <Rico> ok, good luck :)
[10:35] <erUSUL> Alteria: if you have questions make them to the channel at large....
[10:35] <dreameen> Qball: i know it should but it doesn't:S
[10:35] <salim> where can I find out which ubuntu version I have?
[10:35] <Rico> uname -a
[10:35] <Rico> oh hang on, that doesn't work :)
[10:35] <Log1x> :)
[10:35] <madcow> rico: quick question, when I sudo apt-get remove gtkpod it said it was not installed, but I ran it
[10:36] <dreameen> i'll have a look on teh forums
[10:36] <longwave> salim: cat /etc/issue
[10:36] <Rico> madcow: possibly it has a different package name, is gtkpod still installed?
[10:36] <Log1x> DCC SEND LOG1XFUCKINGOWNSYOU
[10:36] <madcow> rico: yes
[10:36] <PhillipElHaxor> um... help?
[10:36] <beu> hmm
[10:36] <Qball> wth happened
[10:36] <Alteria> I am attempting to install on a intel based system.  Upon starting, the cd loads and brings me to the menu. I then select install, and it goes to uncompressing, booting kernal it then loads it all into memory, then goes back to uncompressing and booting kernel, then stops
[10:36] <beu> dcc exploit
[10:36] <salim> longwave: thx, how do you know such things? where can I learn all that stuff?
[10:36] <Qball> that is an easy one
[10:37] <witless> can someone remind me how to determine which package provides a file?
[10:37] <jkamp> i have set up a samba share... do be completely open and public... windows can see the server under workgroup computers... but when i try to access it, it asks for username and password.... and my normal linux username and password doesn't work
[10:37] <Rico> madcow: well the package name IS gtkpod, so perhaps you have some custom version
[10:37] <Rico> jkamp: i was about to ask the same question. i couldn't make a samba share that required no login at all.
[10:37] <longwave> salim: i've been using linux for years, experience and having had to find things out myself lets me help others :)
[10:37] <neildarlow> jkamp: is your username/password in the smbpasswd database?
[10:38] <eamonn> jkamp, on the Linux server type sudo smbpasswd USERNAME (i.e. your username) and create a password for it. Then try to log in a gain.
[10:38] <eamonn> s/a gain/again
[10:38] <salim> longwave: I see
[10:38] <thedash> so, I can't see any of the other computers on my router, and they can't see me, and I am kinda stuck on what to do to fix the setup
[10:39] <johny5> my Ctrl key doesn't appear to work in firefox or mozilla.  Can anyone help me with this?
[10:39] <neildarlow> thedash: how does your network interface get its IP address
[10:39] <longwave> witless: dpkg -S /path/to/file if the package is installed, check out the apt-file package otherwise
[10:39] <thedash> I believe auto DHCP server via the router
[10:40] <Rico> eamonn/neildarlow: how do you make the share entirely public? or is that not possible?
[10:40] <neildarlow> thedash: then you need to make sure (1) your router is configured to serve correctly and (2) your interface is configured for DHCP
[10:40] <fokuslee> hey how do i open shoucast automatically with toteM?
[10:40] <eamonn> Rico, it is possible, but you'll have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:41] <thedash> neildarlow: I would believe then that it is #2, as I can get internet fine, as can everybody else, we just can't see each others' shares
[10:41] <eamonn> Rico, change security = user to security = share.
[10:41] <Rico> ok
[10:41] <neildarlow> thedash: you might not have WINS server enabled in samba?
[10:41] <Rico> eamonn: is that all that is required?
[10:41] <eamonn> Rico, then: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:42] <Rico> thanks
[10:42] <thedash> neildarlow: I am not sure, how would I find out if I do or not?
[10:42] <neildarlow> thedash: look at smb.conf for "wins server" setting
[10:42] <eamonn> Rico, hopefully... I'm not a samba expert and I use user-level security myself.
[10:43] <neildarlow> thedash: or run testparm
[10:43] <Rico> eamonn: i suppose the alternative, if I want a windows user to access my shares, is to create a unix account for him?
[10:43] <thedash> neildarlow: I don't really know what I am looking for in these
[10:44] <eamonn> Rico, yes, that's the other alternative. That's what you create with the smbpasswd command.
[10:44] <neildarlow> thedash: man smb.conf and / wins server
[10:44] <thedash> other than perhaps testparm's result of "Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE" or smb.conf's "wins support = no"
[10:45] <Sp4rKy> please, does anyone know kplayer ,
[10:45] <Sp4rKy> ?
[10:45] <Sp4rKy> i would know why it isn't in repository
[10:45] <neildarlow> Sp4rKy: part of kdemultimedia perhaps
[10:46] <neildarlow> Sp4rKy: do you mean kmplayer?
[10:46] <Sp4rKy> not seems
[10:46] <Sp4rKy> no kplayer
[10:46] <Sp4rKy> kplayer.sourceforge.net
[10:46] <fokuslee> hey any one? how do i open pls automatically with totem?
[10:47] <Rico> right click the file, properties, Open With tab
[10:47] <Rico> select totem, OK
[10:47] <Rico> although totem is called 'Movie Player' isn't it?
[10:48] <fokuslee> rico i don't see totem
[10:48] <Simba> any idea of what to do about following error when opening the network-admin? 'the entered password is invalid'
[10:48] <fokuslee> Rico,  I only see rhymbox
[10:48] <Rico> click the Add button
[10:48] <DavXz> Hey, can anyone tell me where I can get direct/manual access to my fans on my Dell Inspiron 5150 laptop?  It's getting hot and the fans aren't turning on.
[10:48] <Rico> then scroll down and find it
[10:48] <djpqte> anyone can tell me why when i load edgy live cd i have buffer i/o error on device sr1 ?
[10:49] <neildarlow> djpqte: faulty media?
[10:49] <djpqte> two differents cd
[10:49] <fokuslee> rico i don't even have the add i mean its grey
[10:49] <fokuslee> unclickable
[10:49] <Rico> that seems unlikely
[10:49] <corvax> if i have a wireless range extender shouldnt it just grab the signal and rebroadcast it?
[10:49] <Alteria> I am attempting to install on a intel based system.  Upon starting, the cd loads and brings me to the menu. I then select install, and it goes to uncompressing, booting kernal it then loads it all into memory, then goes back to uncompressing and booting kernel, then hangs atleast for 10 minutes could be longer can anyone assist me?
[10:50] <corvax> i shouldnt have to have an ethernet cord hooked toit should i?
[10:50] <ravenous> djpqte: is sr1 your cd/dvd drive?
[10:50] <corvax> what would be the point then>?
[10:50] <fokuslee> i guess i will reinstall totem?
[10:50] <djpqte> thats the weird thing i dont know i thought sr1 was for scsi and my cd drive is ide
[10:51] <fokuslee> is there away i can ust  link it wit hthe applicatioN ?
[10:51] <neildarlow> corvax: does it work as an AP also?
[10:52] <corvax> yes
[10:52] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i satrt two or more x on the same machine but different tyy?
[10:52] <MetaMorfoziS> tty
[10:52] <ravenous> djpqte: that is strange i was going to say maybe run ide=nodma and see if the i/o errors occur but with it being sr1 i dont know that its going to do anything
[10:52] <corvax> it can be an ap also
[10:52] <neildarlow> corvax: then you can use it to connect wireless devices to a wired network too
[10:52] <corvax> i understand that
[10:53] <corvax> it just seems to not be working
[10:53] <neildarlow> corvax: then that's what the ethernet port is for
[10:53] <TylerDurdener> how can i remove some resolutions so my computer thinks i don't have anymore than a certain res?
[10:53] <djpqte> ravenous - ya its really stange maybe i should try a diferent cd player?
[10:53] <corvax> see i have a decent signal in my bedroom and none on the porch
[10:53] <corvax> porch is outside bedroom
[10:53] <corvax> i figured id plug it in in there
[10:53] <corvax> but still no signal
[10:53] <ravenous> djpqte: yeah thats a good idea, at least it'd tell you if the drive is being screwy
[10:54] <hondje> TylerDurdener: modelines are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... just take out the ones you don't want anymore
[10:54] <TylerDurdener> ty hondje
[10:54] <neildarlow> corvax: i've had all sorts of problems with wireless signal levels in my home
[10:54] <spiderworm> hi all... i removed the sound card from my system and am trying to use the onboard sound.... there is no /dev/dsp, does anyone know how i would go about getting it to work?
[10:55] <LadyNikon> spiderworm: is the card turned on in the bios?
[10:55] <fokuslee> rico, thx for the help
[10:55] <neildarlow> spiderworm: should just be a case of reconfiguring ALSA for your onboard hardware
[10:55] <goldeelox> can anyone help me turn on direct rending for my 9800pro?
[10:55] <spiderworm> LadyNikon: i would think so
[10:55] <goldeelox> rendering*
[10:55] <fokuslee> rico, totem is actully in /usr/bin
[10:55] <spiderworm> neildarlow: how do i go about reconfiguring alsa? dpkg-reconfigure alsa?
[10:55] <fokuslee> finally found it
[10:55] <TylerDurdener> hondje, well i have 1280x1024 and id like to have it removed, but it isn't in xorg.conf
[10:56] <fokuslee> i guess thats where all the aps install too
[10:56] <neildarlow> spiderworm: probably. i've never needed to do it.
[10:56] <hondje> well that's just funky
[10:57] <LadyNikon> spiderworm: its one of those things i always forget when reverting back to the onboard sound.. is to turn it back on. heh
[10:57] <spiderworm> LadyNikon: it could be off i suppose, but i dont remember ever turning it off
[10:57] <spiderworm> i'll check it out
[10:57] <corvax> if i have wep on the originating router do i need it on the repeater?
[10:58] <nozorro> spiderworm: should rather be dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[10:58] <corvax> and if so how would i plug the 2 different keys into ubuntu?
[10:58] <spiderworm> nozorro: i tried that, didnt do anything :(
[10:58] <corvax> thats weird
[10:58] <dragonriot> richiefrich you there?
[10:58] <pierrelourens> Does anyone know of a good, somewhat easy guide for dual booting Ubuntu on an intel Mac.
[10:58] <LadyNikon> spiderworm: if you dont remember turning if off. then its probably still on..
[10:58] <LadyNikon> its in the bios settings
[10:59] <Killerkiwi> irc://chat.freenode.net/#ubuntu-nz1
[10:59] <nozorro> spiderworm: which soundchip does lspci show you?
[10:59] <spiderworm> nozorro: none, but its onboard, so it wouldnt show in there, right?
[10:59] <dragonriot> spiderworm: it still should...
[11:00] <nozorro> spiderworm: if lspci doesn't show it, it's pretty much hopeless :-(
[11:00] <kads> !search tease
[11:01] <nozorro> nozorro: or maybe try System a > Administration > Device Manager
[11:01] <veleno> hello. does the installation wizard asks about preserving the content of a given partition (my /home/ ) ?
[11:01] <spiderworm> right on LadyNikon, it was disabled in the BIOS
[11:02] <fokuslee> spiderworm, good for ladynikon
[11:02] <hondje> veleno: if you do it manually, it works fine. You can even pick that partition to be mounted as /home without being formatted.
[11:02] <richiefrich> dragonriot yes
[11:02] <DavXz> fuck
[11:02] <dragonriot> richiefrich - I need your server address
[11:02] <fokuslee> anyone good with hardware here? graphic card to be exact
[11:03] <richiefrich> dragonriot for irc?
[11:03] <dragonriot> yep
[11:03] <dragonriot> back in Windows for now...
[11:04] <DBO> DavXz, less on the swearing please =)
[11:04] <fokuslee>  anyone good with hardware here? graphic card to be exact
[11:04] <fokuslee> !swear
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <DBO> fokuslee, whats up?
[11:04] <fokuslee> can u help me read this real quick
[11:04] <DBO> sure
[11:05] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23022
[11:05] <fokuslee> u been banging my head on the wall over this for a while now
[11:05] <fokuslee> thx
[11:05] <rem__> .
[11:05] <fokuslee> I*
[11:06] <KyoLptp`> Is there any sort of flv player for Linux?
[11:06] <Milktea> i herd u leik mudkips
[11:06] <Milktea> How do I enable Japanese input
[11:06] <wazzu> Is there an easy way to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using the CD instead of the Internet?
[11:06] <DBO> fokuslee, have you enabled SLI on your motherboard (or added the bridge thingie)
[11:07] <jimmygoon> wazzu : you can add the cd to your sources.list file and then apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade from there
[11:07] <jrib> !upgrade > wazzu
[11:07] <fokuslee> i don't need to
[11:07] <bluefox83> wazzu, pop the cd in, then in system->administration->software properties  add your cd
[11:07] <fokuslee> dbo, b/c its actuallly one card
[11:07] <jimmygoon> !upgrade > jimmygoon
[11:07] <fokuslee> with 2 gup
[11:07] <fokuslee> gpu
[11:07] <fokuslee> and it works in windows
[11:07] <DBO> fokuslee, eek... Im actually entirely unsure how to deal with that...
[11:07] <wazzu> Thanks very much!
[11:07] <fokuslee> dbo i hear ya
[11:07] <fokuslee> dbo, i been getting no help from anywhere
[11:07] <fokuslee> i think its in the kernel
[11:07] <DBO> fokuslee, is the nvidia kernel module loading properly?
[11:08] <fokuslee> dbo yeah glx is on
[11:08] <fokuslee> but after nvidia-xcofig --sli="on"
[11:08] <fokuslee> i get no sli setting from nvidia-settings
[11:08] <Milktea> How do I enable Japanese input
[11:08] <TEN_> Is there a counterpart to screendump one can get from sudo cat /dev/vcs7 for consoles (terminals) running in an X window?
[11:09] <DBO> fokuslee, lemme see your xorg.conf in pastebin please
[11:09] <fokuslee> ok
[11:09] <fokuslee> coming rite up
[11:11] <veleno> what do you mean 'manually' ?
[11:12] <fokuslee> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:12] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23093
[11:13] <fokuslee> dbo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23093
[11:13] <nicholaspaul> Q: If I wanted to edit the menu the hard way, or for another user using sudo, where would I find the menu config file?
[11:14] <DBO> fokuslee, re-run your nvidia-xconfig for sli and see if that changes the options in there
[11:15] <DBO> fokuslee, you are running nvidia-xconfig as root right?
[11:15] <thedash> I still have had no luck being able to see the other computers on my router [and in my workgrou, supposedly] 
[11:15] <fokuslee> dbo, yeah i did actually i apologize
[11:15] <fokuslee> this is the back up
[11:16] <fokuslee> i sent the wrong one to bin
[11:16] <fokuslee> one sec
[11:16] <jrib> nicholaspaul: alacarte seems to use ~/.local/share/applications
[11:17] <sethk> thedash, can you ping them by ip?
[11:17] <thedash> nope
[11:17] <nozorro> nicholaspaul: ~/.local/share/applicactions and /usr/share/applications -- but this is for individual menu entries only. i'm sure you find mor in the gnome sys admin guide
[11:17] <thedash> I can ping the router though
[11:18] <ktekx> hi guys
[11:18] <sethk> thedash, can you ping the router by ip?
[11:18] <sethk> thedash, ok.
[11:18] <sethk> if you can ping the router, and the windows boxes can ping the router, but you can't ping the windows boxes, the netmask is wrong somewhere
[11:18] <fokuslee> dbo, sorri bro this one is right
[11:18] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23094
[11:18] <fokuslee> but it makes no diff i don't see sli option in nvidia-settings
[11:19] <thedash> sethk: and that is a router problem?
[11:19] <ktekx> i have a problem, my computer is oldddd, it doesnt support ACPI i dont think, only APM
[11:19] <ktekx> gives me some ACPI error
[11:19] <ktekx> anybody know a work-around?
[11:19] <jellis> you have the windows firewall turned off on the windows boxes?
[11:19] <nicholaspaul> thx nozorro & jrib i'll take a look ... :-)
[11:20] <sethk> thedash, no, probably on the linux box.
[11:20] <sethk> thedash, I'm assuming that the router and windows boxes have been there and talking to each other for a while, and you added a linux box
[11:20] <anto9us> ktekx: try noacpi as a boot option
[11:20] <nozorro> nicholaspaul: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/menustructure-0.html
[11:21] <ktekx> anto9us: sorry, how do i go about setting that? i have the desktop cd
[11:21] <ph8> hey guys! I'm trying to compile my kernel on edgy and keep getting this error, can anyone shed some light?:
[11:21] <ph8>  undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail'
[11:21] <ktekx> i dont see where i could change it
[11:21] <DBO> fokuslee, I dont know whats going wrong really... you could check with your xorg logs, give me your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin please
[11:21] <ph8> i've read stuff about -fno-stack-protector but i couldn't find anything on how to implement it?
[11:22] <anto9us> ktekx: look for the keys it tells you to press to enter boot options after your computer is powered on
[11:22] <thedash> sethk: a couple of the windows boxes have been on for a while, but my ubuntu box and another windows box were added at about the same time
[11:22] <thedash> the windows box connects w/o problems, but mine can't see thoirs, and they can't see mine
[11:22] <ktekx> oh in my BIOS?
[11:22] <anto9us> ktekx: no
[11:22] <Vegeta^> Is there a way to stop the "beep" sound that occures, everytimes to hit the button of for example the terminal?
[11:22] <anto9us> ktekx: for the linux kernel
[11:23] <nozorro> Vegeta^: System > Preferences > Sound
[11:23] <Vegeta^> Everytime you reach the button of*,
[11:23] <sethk> thedash, ok, tell me the ip and netmask of the linux box, and the ip and netmask of one of the old windows boxes
[11:23] <anto9us> ktekx: I hardly reboot mine, can't remember the keypress for it
[11:23] <Neo8750> i did a install of linux-686 and it installed however my bootmenu only shows kernel-386 and kernel-generic
[11:23] <Vegeta^> It's not those sound
[11:23] <Neo8750> why is that?
[11:23] <villr[] ye> hi. does ubuntu have a GUI for setting up X?
[11:23] <ktekx> it goes to the ubuntu install page
[11:23] <Vegeta^> nozorro: The sound that can also occure in DOS or similar.
[11:24] <jimmygoon> villr[] ye - no
[11:24] <villr[] ye> crapples. :-(
[11:24] <thedash> sethk: umm, as I see, all the IPs are 192.168.1.*, from the router, and I am not sure on the netmask atm
[11:24] <anto9us> ktekx: look for boot options
[11:24] <nozorro> Vegeta^: explain what dos has to do with it
[11:24] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to copy files to a USB drive using rsync. Some of the files aren't getting copied. Can anyone help
[11:25] <thedash> sethk: if (netmask == subnet mask) { return 255.255.255.0 }
[11:25] <fokuslee> dbo, here u go
[11:25] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23095
[11:25] <sethk> thedash, yes, subnet mask is more correct
[11:25] <sethk> thedash, the netmask is the same on the windows box and the ubuntu box?
[11:25] <thedash> I believe so
[11:25] <thedash> let me checx
[11:25] <D_dog> my ubuntu install freezes at mounting root file system. i have an asus p5 intel core2 duo two maxtor sata drives (not raided) and an ide cdrom..it boots from the cd then seems to lose it after a short while...any ideas? I have seen the question posted in the forums but have not found an answer that works
[11:26] <revenant_ubuntu> hi there ! I have weird problem with ttf fonts, it is only working while I am root
[11:26] <anto9us> ktekx: found it, F6, other options, add noapic to that line
[11:26] <anto9us> ktekx: sorry, I mean noacpi
[11:26] <Vegeta^> nozorro: I'm refering to the "beep" sound that can occure when you for example reach the bottum of the terminal and press "down" then it makes a beep. It's the same sound that can occure when are you botton the computer and press MANY bottum, it makes that sound.
[11:26] <Vegeta^> nozorro: Never heard that?
[11:26] <thedash> sethk: yes the netmasks are the same
[11:26] <nozorro> Vegeta^: i told you already where to disable it
[11:26] <DBO> fokuslee, ok I need to to re-instate your xorg.conf with the SLI option then restart X, then I need your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:27] <sethk> thedash, if the ip of both is 192.168.1.x, and the netmask for both is 255.255.255.0, and you can't ping each from the other, then they aren't on the same subnet.
[11:27] <sethk> thedash, in other words you might have a bad cable or some such issue
[11:27] <ktekx> ok let me try that
[11:27] <sethk> thedash, if you have a crossover cable, try cabling the linux box directly to the windows box, and see if you can ping the windows box
[11:28] <fokuslee> dbo, how do i do that?
[11:28] <thedash> sethk: ok, after a reviow of the computers connected, I see I can ping them
[11:28] <fokuslee> i mean reinstate xorg.conf
[11:28] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: did you install any fonts manually?
[11:28] <thedash> sethk: [I was trying to ping the one that was offline :X] 
[11:28] <sethk> thedash, ok, that makes more sense
[11:28] <DBO> fokuslee, run the nvidia-xconfig --SLI blah blah command again
[11:28] <sethk> thedash, if you could ping the one that's off line I would wonder.  :)
[11:28] <fokuslee> ok
[11:28] <fokuslee> i will restart x
[11:28] <sethk> thedash, so it's sounds like you have a samba issue, then.
[11:28] <fokuslee> then give u log again
[11:28] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro,  yep .. I tried to install msttfcorefonts and also I copied my windows fonts to the same directory
[11:28] <Vegeta^> nozorro: It's not there. This beep sound occures even if you have muted the speaker.
[11:29] <nozorro> Vegeta^: it's under the System Beep tab in that config app
[11:29] <thedash> sethk: you are an expert in samba stuff too, I hope? :P
[11:29] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: to which dir exactly?
[11:30] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, the strange thing that it is working once I startx as root but not as normal user seems somthing is wrong with the permissions and I don't know how to fix it
[11:30] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[11:30] <anto9us> thedash: there's a great samba howto here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[11:30] <sethk> thedash, not an expert, but I know a bit about it.  the most common problem with samba is that the windows side doesn't recognize the username/password.  Try using a username and password that works on a windows box with a share, and see if you can see the share.  That is, if windows box x has a share, use a username and password (in samba) that can log into x, and then see if you can see x's shares
[11:31] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: try installing (dragging) those same fonts to the .fonts dir (mind the dot) in your home directory. wait a few secs, then it should work
[11:31] <thedash> would this also be the reason that I don't show up on the "local network" dhcp table of my router?
[11:31] <sethk> thedash, no
[11:31] <sethk> thedash, dhcp is strictly at the IP level
[11:31] <sethk> thedash, by "I" you mean the linux box?
[11:32] <thedash> yes
[11:32] <ph8> hey guys! I'm trying to compile my kernel on edgy and keep getting this error, can anyone shed some light?:
[11:32] <ph8>  undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail'
[11:32] <flowtron> anybody interested in a hacked fix for gnome-session problem?
[11:32] <ph8> i've read stuff about -fno-stack-protector but i couldn't find anything on how to implement it?
[11:32] <sethk> thedash, first question is, then, is the linux box configured to use dhcp?
[11:32] <thedash> it shows 192.168.1.100, 101, 103, 104, and 105
[11:32] <anto9us> thedash: the router should list all its leases, if you're not there then you're probably configured with a static IP
[11:32] <SaitoHajime> does anyone know where can i find super mario war deb ?
[11:32] <thedash> my IP shows as *.102
[11:32] <sethk> thedash, ok, but where does the .102 come from?  did you statically configure the linux box to be 102, or is the linux box configured to use dhcp?
[11:32] <thedash> I don't know a whole lot about linux yet
[11:32] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, shall I run fc-cache ?
[11:33] <fokuslee> DBO, here u go
[11:33] <fokuslee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23096
[11:33] <thedash> afaik, it was assigned the first time I connected to the router
[11:33] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: that should not be necessary anymore
[11:33] <Andrew67> SaitoHajime: http://smw.72dpiarmy.com/
[11:33] <fokuslee> its after i restarted x
[11:33] <Andrew67> SaitoHajime: go to Linux download thing
[11:33] <SaitoHajime> Andrew67, nope the deb isn't there anymore =
[11:33] <sethk> thedash, that means it is DHCP.  Sometimes you have to add the mac address of a machine to the router's configuration, to tell the router that the machine is allowed to be on the network.
[11:33] <trogdoor> My macbook pro doesn't wake from sleep.
[11:34] <sethk> thedash, that's a guess, because I don't know what router you are using, and I don't know the router's configuration
[11:34] <tamago> 'ello, busy updating to edgy. So if I dissappear, edgy sucks
[11:34] <thedash> its a LinkSys WRT54GS v6
[11:34] <sethk> thedash, but that's the only way I can think of that the linux box wouldn't be in that list
[11:34] <DBO> (**) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI enabled; using auto-selected rendering method.  <--- fokuslee are you sure its not working?
[11:34] <sethk> thedash, if you bring up the network manager dialog, the ethernet port (or wireless port) should be listed, and if you click on properties, it should tell you whether it is using dhcp, or has a static configuration.
[11:35] <thedash> it says its DHCP
[11:35] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, yep it is working now for truetypes but not for bitstream fonts :-s
[11:36] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: bitstream fonts are not true type?
[11:36] <SaitoHajime> Andrew67, but thx answering me
[11:36] <sethk> thedash, ok.  then the reason it doesn't show up on that list (the router's list of local boxes) has to be configuration within the router.
[11:36] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, but they are listed under  /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/
[11:36] <sethk> thedash, assuming you didn't recycle the router since the linux box got it's address
[11:37] <trogdoor> I am using the proprietary ATI drivers, I have heard they can cause problems, could that be the reason why my macbook pro doesn't wake from sleep?
[11:37] <anto9us> thedash: have you refreshed your router's dhcp lease page in your browser?
[11:37] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: they are not working how?
[11:37] <sethk> thedash, I'm doing a few things at once here, so if I don't answer right away, wait a bit.
[11:37] <sethk> anto9us, good thought
[11:37] <thedash> anto9us: yes I did a few days ago
[11:37] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, I am getting squares instead of characters
[11:37] <anto9us> thedash: do it again
[11:37] <sethk> thedash, can't hurt to refresh it again
[11:38] <Vegeta^> nozorro: I could turn it off in gnom desktop, but I can't find it on KDE? You know where it is located?
[11:38] <thedash> so, DHCP release ?
[11:38] <anto9us> thedash: no
[11:38] <nozorro> Vegeta^: don't know, sorry
[11:38] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, just for your information, I just lost all the truetype font after running sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[11:39] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: how did you install these bitstream fonts? what are your language settings?
[11:39] <thedash> anto9us: not sure what I am doing then
[11:39] <spielmann> hi
[11:39] <anto9us> thedash: you're just showing the dhcp leases
[11:39] <spielmann> is there anyway of limiting the bandwidth usage of a program (say firefox)?
[11:39] <anto9us> thedash: also, typing route in a terminal window will show your gateway, this is also usually your dhcp server (your router)
[11:39] <trogdoor> Vegeta^,  you might have better luck on #kubuntu
[11:40] <Vegeta^> I'll try
[11:40] <fokuslee> II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 6600 GT at PCI:1:0:0
[11:40] <fokuslee> (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kBytes
[11:40] <fokuslee> (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.43.02.46.00
[11:40] <fokuslee> (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 8X
[11:40] <fokuslee> DBO, yeah
[11:40] <thedash> hmm
[11:40] <anto9us> thedash: if you can ping the other machines and the outside world ok, your networking bit is done, you can move on to samba file sharing
[11:40] <DBO> fokuslee, please dont paste here =)
[11:40] <fokuslee> b/c it only uses one gpu after all taht
[11:40] <fokuslee> oh sorri
[11:40] <salim> hi, I run qmake, but he doesnt know the command - what's wrong? I have installed Qt4!
[11:40] <fokuslee> just the four lines after it
[11:41] <fokuslee> DBO, it only uses one
[11:41] <fokuslee> and only half the ram i have
[11:41] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, they were installed by default and my language setting is en_US:utf8 .. everything was working till I ran dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig ( not fontconfig-config )
[11:41] <fokuslee> DBO i think this is a kernel problem
[11:41] <DBO> fokuslee, I dont know how to help you...  Im fairly certain your troubles have to do witht he 2 in 1 card...
[11:41] <fokuslee> DBO
[11:41] <fokuslee> yeah i think itz largely unsupported
[11:41] <fokuslee> im gonna make a post on ubuntu
[11:41] <fokuslee> so other pplz will know before hand
[11:42] <Vegeta^> nozorro: It doesn't cut the beep I was talking about.
[11:42] <fokuslee> DBO hopefully they will come up with a kernel that supporst my card detection
[11:42] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: could you remove your manually installed fonts? thos which you mentioned first, the ones you copied to /usr/share/fonts
[11:42] <fokuslee> DBO, anyways thank you so much for ur help
[11:42] <Vegeta^> nozorro: Try open a terminal, and press the "Down arrow" key.
[11:42] <fokuslee> i took alot of ur time
[11:42] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:43] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, ok .. I will since they are not working anyway
[11:43] <nozorro> Vegeta^: on my system it works. if you use gnome and kde together, that might intervene
[11:43] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: try gto get to a clean state, as mus as possible.
[11:44] <sethk> thedash, try my suggestion about using a username/password in samba that is usable to log into a windows box with a share
[11:44] <nozorro> as *much
[11:44] <thedash> sethk: will do
[11:44] <trogdoor> Is there an IRC channel for help with intel macs running linux? Preferably Ubuntu specific?
[11:46] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, ok I am done. right now, it is the default layout
[11:46] <Duk1> hey there
[11:46] <thedash> woo
[11:46] <dark_light> trogdoor, well, i think you can try this channel
[11:46] <thedash> I don't know what I did, but I can see the other PCs now :D
[11:46] <anto9us> thedash: did you change the workgroup? That would do it
[11:46] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: did you change your lang settings somehow? it looked strange when you typed it before. should be en_US.UTF-8 [sic] 
[11:47] <dark_light> intel macs running linux ubuntu specific is very spefic..
[11:47] <AZzKikR> does anybody have experience with usb modems?
[11:47] <Duk1> just got a quick question.  My workgroup is listed as MSHome and I would like to change it. I know it is a noob quetion
[11:47] <trogdoor> dark_light: I have been trying to get help on my sleep issues with my macbook pro for days now on this channel.
[11:47] <dark_light> trogdoor, sleep issues?
[11:47] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: 'echo $LANG' in a terminal
[11:48] <AZzKikR> Duk1: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:48] <dark_light> trogdoor, i think you could now try google or a ubuntu forum
[11:48] <trogdoor> dark_light: It won't wake from sleep ( black screen )
[11:48] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, no I didn't sorry it was a typo , the output is en_US.UTF-8
[11:48] <trogdoor> dark_light: I tried both of those first.
[11:49] <schupa> hi :)
[11:49] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: now you get those squares everywhere, even in Apps > Accessories > Character Map (under Latin) ?
[11:49] <anto9us> Duk1: after changing you need to restart samba "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[11:49] <dark_light> trogdoor, i didn't understand, you meant the screen that apeears when the desktop is idle?
[11:50] <trogdoor> dark_light: When resuming from suspend
[11:50] <KyoLptp`> Is there any sort of .flv player for Linux?
[11:50] <schupa> i need to configure x, but how do i mark an box "[ ] " in terminal when writing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[11:51] <dark_light> well.. ugh.. i had never used suspend, and i don't have a mac.. (i don't have a mac with intel processor too)
[11:51] <thedash> ok, so now my housemates can see my computer, but they need a password to access it?
[11:51] <dark_light> trogdoor, what about submiting a bug in launchpad? or to gnome project
[11:51] <sl021> er... i removed all the repositories on accenident..
[11:51] <sethk> thedash, depends on how you set it up
[11:51] <sethk> thedash, I believe by default no, but I'm not certain
[11:52] <sethk> thedash, one easy way to find out, try it.
[11:52] <rofl0r_> schupa: spcae
[11:52] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, no  it is working under characterMap but it is not working in my xfce4 ( to be precise the clock applet ).
[11:52] <anto9us> thedash: yes and you need to share the directories you want them to be able to access
[11:52] <trogdoor> dark_light: I haven't done that yet, I wasn't sure if it was a bug or user error, I guess  will submit a bug now though.
[11:52] <schupa> rofl0r_, thanks
[11:52] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: and gedit for instance?
[11:53] <dark_light> trogdoor, if nobody can help you, there is a chance that it is a bug. but i am unsure if you can bug it in launchpad, gnome bugs must be sent to gnome's bugzilla
[11:53] <anto9us> sl021: see http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:53] <nozorro> !xubuntu > nozorro
[11:53] <sl021> k
[11:53] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, it is working there also :-o
[11:53] <AlReece45> What would cause a USB mouse and intergrated NIC to stop working but keep the intergrated keyboard and touchpad mouse working (laptop)?
[11:54] <trogdoor> dark_light: I also haven't tried suspend when not running X, do you know the command for suspend from the terminal?
[11:54] <erider> can any one can help with ubuntu64 firefox video plugins??
[11:54] <dark_light> trogdoor, no..
[11:54] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: so it's an xfce / xubuntu problem obviously
[11:54] <dark_light> trogdoor, what is the command?
[11:54] <trogdoor> dark_light: That is what I am trying to ask :)
[11:54] <dark_light> trogdoor, you can find out the package that provides this command, it's the package that may be with a bug so..
[11:54] <CalJohn> erider: state your problem, and your are far more likely to get a reply
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> erider: hang on...
[11:55] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, maybe I need to restart the applet since bitstream fonts started working after copying all the truetypes under .fonts as you suggested earlier
[11:55] <funkja> I have ubuntu install now and I want to dual boot XP, after installing XP - what is the eaisest way to install grub agian?
[11:55] <thedash> I meant that I had gotten it to work, and my flatmates can see my computer now [and I can see theirs] , but they can't open mine without an account
[11:55] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: maybe, but should not be necessary...
[11:55] <erider> TheGateKeeper: I can't get flash or jvm or any of the plugins to work with firefox
[11:56] <dark_light> trogdoor, ah! heh. (sorry, english isn't my first language..)
[11:56] <CalJohn> erider: are you using wine?
[11:56] <erider> no I don't think so
[11:56] <dark_light> trogdoor, well, do you know HOW to suspend with gnome? i have never tried!
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> erider:need to install as 32bit apps take a look at ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava http://en.jakilinux.org/linux/ubuntu/kubuntu-606-on-athlon-64/
[11:56] <CalJohn> erider: using wine is far easier than getting amd64 binaries for these closed programs
[11:56] <erider> I have 64bit ubuntu
[11:56] <sl021> (replace KEY     with the key ID)   where can i find the key ID
[11:56] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, :d it is working now .. I just restarted the panel.
[11:56] <trogdoor> dark_light: yes.
[11:57] <kads> I cannot access my ubuntu HP PSC-1210 printer from windows xp through samba
[11:57] <CalJohn> erider: you can still use the windows firefox binary.  it's much easier than the other methods for 64bit
[11:57] <erider> ok how would one use it CalJohn
[11:57] <CalJohn> erider: apt-get install wine
[11:57] <dark_light> trogdoor, tell me, heh
[11:57] <anto9us> funkja: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:57] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu:  fine. don't install fonts manually into system dirs
[11:57] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, is there away to make system wide ? not only local to my account  ( for example, if i created a new user test then I will have to copy my .fonts directory to his home directory )
[11:58] <dark_light> ok, i think i found, in menu->quit.. heh
[11:58] <dark_light> testing
[11:58] <CalJohn> you download the windows .exe and run it with "wine foo.exe" to install, then you use wine to run the */Program\ Files/foo.exe binary
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> erider: take a look at the urls I gave you before you start messing with wine
[11:58] <erider> CalJohn package wine is not available
[11:58] <bruenig> !wine
[11:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:58] <anto9us> sl021: sorry, was perhaps a bit complicated that page, start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[11:58] <erider> ok TheGateKeeper
[11:58] <sl021> k
[11:58] <AlReece45> Is there another utility, besides dmesg, that would tell me USB errors?
[11:59] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: yeah, you need to copy manually. debian/ubuntu have quite an intricate font system, if you're not familiar with it, you'll get into trouble (as we saw). or maybe there's an easy way, dunno
[11:59] <erider> thanks TheGateKeeper
[11:59] <CalJohn> TheGateKeeper: i think wine is far easier than at least the first of those links
[11:59] <AlReece45> icq
[11:59] <trogdoor> Does anyone know the command to suspend from the terminal?
[11:59] <AlReece45> hm... sry
[11:59] <[NP] Tangent> uh oh
[11:59] <[NP] Tangent> Xine is crashing when I try to use it
[11:59] <bruenig> CalJohn, one of those links assuming it is the one I am thinking of has a script for installing 32 bit firefox. That would have to be easier than wine
[12:00] <[NP] Tangent> Totem and Kaffeine are also crashing
[12:00] <[NP] Tangent> any ideas why?
[12:00] <revenant_ubuntu> nozorro, for the time being, this is perfect for me. Thanks alot for you support. Have a good day ;)
[12:00] <[NP] Tangent> I haven't changed anything with them, and they worked last night
[12:00] <nozorro> revenant_ubuntu: you're welcome
[12:00] <CalJohn> bruenig: would that be the second one?  i jsut scanned them to check
[12:00] <_mariux> trogdoor: suspend?
[12:00] <jazzrocker> is there a standard way to extract lib deps from a ./configure script?