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| Tm_T | \o/ | 01:07 |
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| Tm_T | I got gprs working in linux :) | 01:07 |
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| kwwii | Chupa Chups logo.The Chupa Chups logo was designed by the surrealist Salvador Dal. | 01:19 |
| kwwii | never knew that | 01:19 |
| Tm_T | :o | 01:19 |
| Tm_T | every day is chance to learn something new :) | 01:19 |
| kwwii | no shit | 01:23 |
| Tm_T | sherlock | 01:23 |
| kwwii | :-) | 01:23 |
| Tm_T | or, what you think, dr watson? | 01:24 |
| Tm_T | ;--P | 01:24 |
| claydoh | mmm chupa chups | 01:32 |
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| claydoh | tasty and dirt cheap | 01:32 |
| Tm_T | ok, should be awake in 3 and 1/2 hours from now, good night -> | 01:32 |
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| kwwii | night all | 02:20 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 02:48 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | heh. here's teh first logout bug. | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | and it's fixed :D | 04:50 |
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| Hobbsee | hey all | 08:28 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee!!! :) | 08:28 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato!!! :) | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: shutdown is still borked. | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: i tried it a couple of hours ago | 08:29 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: doesn't the Live CD have no password for the user "ubuntu"? | 08:32 |
| imbrandon | the password is "ubuntu" also | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: apparently it's ubuntu, i'm not sureabout that | 08:32 |
| Jucato | ah ok. coz when I log out from the Live CD, I don't need to enter a password. but when the session is locked, it doesn't accept any password, blank or "ubuntu"... oh well :) | 08:33 |
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| Hobbsee | hey Lure_ | 08:35 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: that's what i found, i was hoping they'd fixed that | 08:35 |
| Lure_ | hi Hobbsee | 08:35 |
| Jucato | I'll try again in the Edgy Live CD. that was on Dapper | 08:35 |
| Jucato | (sorry I didn't specify...) | 08:35 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel! | TODO: Gamin fixes at: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | Merges at: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Buglist at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Tonio_ at Fri Sep 8 13:16:44 2006 | ||
| === #kubuntu-devel [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | ||
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| Tonio_ | yo | 11:31 |
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| freeflying | can't upload to edgy's universe now | 11:55 |
| Riddell | why not? | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | freeflying: universe freeze is for 09/26 afaik | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | hi Riddell | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | and freeflying :) | 12:21 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning bug 59134 | 12:43 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59134 in kdebase "upstart doesn't obey /etc/default/halt" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59134 | 12:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looking at kdm sources, the command is hardcoded. | 12:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should be change the commande directly, or do we need to parse /etc/default/halt ? | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | cause is we can hardcode the function, I can yo it, but I can't code the /etc/default/halt parsing | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | ./config.def:# define HALT_CMD "/usr/sbin/halt" | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | here it is in the sources | 12:45 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: done a patch for config.def file and testing | 12:51 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: hehe :) | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | yop kwwii_ ! | 12:58 |
| kwwii_ | moin Tonio_ | 12:59 |
| kwwii_ | hi Riddell | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: fine ? | 01:00 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: yepp, doing very well, you? | 01:00 |
| Riddell | hi kwwii_ | 01:00 |
| kwwii_ | today is my 9th wedding anniversary | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | hum, my little adorable and funky dog is dead yesterday.... | 01:00 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: oh no...sorry to hear that | 01:01 |
| kwwii_ | I can be your puppy :-) | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: that happens, he had an heart attack so he didn't suffer a lot, that's the good point | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: congrats for you ;) | 01:01 |
| kwwii_ | ouch | 01:08 |
| kwwii_ | my sisters dog died on the weekend | 01:09 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: how are you going to celebrate? | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: going in a good restaurant I assume ? | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | at least | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I was looking at bluez config | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hidd is disabled by default, which makes connection to mice and keyboard almost complicated | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: shouldn't we activate it ? | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: once activated, you just have to sudo hidd --connect your peripherical once and for all, it'll work at reboot forever | 01:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sounds like we should be it might be a security issue | 01:14 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, my son is here...so we wil celebrate some other day :-) | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: as long as we still have to connect it manually once at least, is that security issue ? | 01:14 |
| Riddell | that sounds like it's more than enough security | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's my opinion | 01:14 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you should ask pitti | 01:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will do thanks :) | 01:15 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: I am putting together new artwork for knot3....I will give it to you all at once, instead of piece by piece, ok? | 01:15 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: sure | 01:15 |
| kwwii_ | maybe one of you could fly to germany and take care of my son tonight while we go out? :-) | 01:21 |
| Riddell | send him and a plane to edinburgh, me and sivan will look after him | 01:21 |
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| kwwii_ | ;-) | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: how about the usplash "background stretched to window" bug ? | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: any news on that point ? | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: the really strange thing is that it works with other usplash themes provided.... | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: I'll try to play with it a bit today | 01:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, according to pitti activating this looks possible as long as mdz agrees, since it is a feature request ;) | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I will also ping doko today concerning python 2.5 and kdedistutils issue | 01:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm thinking about patching kdebluetooth to allow right-click connect on a hidd peripherical you can see in bluetooth:/ | 01:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: shouldn't be hard to do and would make connection really easier | 01:49 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: I cannot even find anyone who has the new usplash running | 01:49 |
| kwwii_ | Tonio_: kinda hard to test, if you know what I mean | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii_: with usplash yes ;) | 01:50 |
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| Tonio_ | kwwii_: but I was wrong, talking about kdm theme, and moodin ;) | 01:50 |
| Tonio_ | s/usplash/moodin concerning my previous messages...... | 01:50 |
| === Tonio_ is still half sleeping | ||
| kwwii_ | Riddell: we talked about that in wiesbaden...can you change that to scale the pic? | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: : the point is it should be scaled by default, as for the default moodin theme | 01:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can be due to your patch then... | 01:53 |
| Riddell | it's on my todo to look at | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: great ;) | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I just noticed there is no "hide button" on kicker anymore | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is that wanted stuff ? | 01:55 |
| Riddell | we got rid of it | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay :) | 01:55 |
| kwwii_ | here are 3 technical improvements for the window deco....what do you think? | 01:56 |
| kwwii_ | turn off shadowed text in windodeco | 01:56 |
| kwwii_ | change window border to 3 | 01:56 |
| kwwii_ | round top corners | 01:57 |
| Riddell | I've not done rounded corners because they're not antialiased and look ugly | 01:58 |
| Riddell | others I don't really have an opinion on | 01:58 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: if we pick the right outline color for the window it doesn't look nasty | 01:59 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: testing kdm patched now.... | 02:27 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: patch works :) | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also we have another way to do it, by patching kdmrc file too, and set alternative command to shutdown instead of changing the default... | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | I think changing the default is more clear, but what would you suggest ? | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | hey all | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: this is for shutdown? | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | hey Hobbsee | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yep, I patched kdm and it works like a charm | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nice :D | 02:32 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: if it works how you've done it lets go with that :) | 02:33 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: fancy working out how to change the kdm default background too? | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, and patching /etc/ files is a policy violation, so better upload a standard source patch :) | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | bah. policy only exists to be broken. *g* | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I already done that | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I set the kdm default background the the kubuntu-wallpaper :) | 02:34 |
| Riddell | groovy | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ;) | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I did that with kdebase (4:3.5.4-0ubuntu15) upload | 02:37 |
| Riddell | thanks | 02:38 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: is knot3 going to be packaged tonight? | 02:39 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: wednesday | 02:39 |
| kwwii_ | hehe, cool | 02:40 |
| Jucato | oooh knot 3 :) | 02:40 |
| verwilst | hello! | 02:41 |
| verwilst | http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com/msg01136.html <- here you can see my request got accepted to ubuntu-backports | 02:41 |
| verwilst | but it's not in the repo :p | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: kdebase uploaded so halt issue will be resolved quick | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | verwilst: soyuz is still a little broken, with backports, it seems | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nice. i look forward to not calling sudo /sbin/poweroff each time i shut down :) | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hehe | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: mainly because most of the time i forget, so rigth click, logout, remember and kill g-p-m, right click logout again, then remember that that doestn actually work, so find a konsole and sudo /sbin/poweroff | 02:44 |
| Jucato | yay! no more quitting g-p-m to be able to logout/restart/shutdown normally? | 02:44 |
| verwilst | soyuz? | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: with next kdebase update, it should be okay yes | 02:45 |
| Jucato | nice :) | 02:45 |
| Jucato | who do I ask about the media:/ stuff btw? imbrandon? | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | verwilst: build system | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: er, Tonio_ would be a good one to whinge at :P | 02:46 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Tonio_ | ||
| Jucato | heh :) | 02:47 |
| verwilst | oh oki :) | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: _Sime is the man concerning media:/ | 02:48 |
| Jucato | oh thanks | 02:48 |
| === Jucato goes to check LP bugs first... | ||
| Jucato | audiocd:/ doesn't seem to be working on Edgy... | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | ah.... | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | debuggers required : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | add your bugs is I missed important ones too | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, i was supposed to add to that... | 02:49 |
| Jucato | ok. I'll check if it's been filed first :) | 02:49 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: which one? audiocd:/ not working? | 02:50 |
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| Hobbsee | Jucato: all the ones i was supposed to | 02:52 |
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| Jucato | :) | 02:52 |
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/bugs/59007 | 02:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59007 in amarok "Install MP3 support not working in Ubuntu" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/bugs/56206 | 02:56 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56206 in kdebase "kpersonalizer (the first time wizard) starts every time I start KDE" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: audiocd:/ works here | 02:56 |
| Jucato | aw shucks... | 02:56 |
| Jucato | :( | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: I'm just ripping a cd to ogg ;) | 02:56 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: heh :) maybe after an update | 02:56 |
| === Hobbsee keeps looking thru her inbox | ||
| Tonio_ | Jucato: hum, I don't see any update I would have and you won't ;) | 02:57 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: that second one is the one you've tried to work on right? | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/bugs/58552 | 02:58 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58552 in kubuntu-meta "Mounting Problems in Kubuntu Edgy after the Xserver is restarted" [Untriaged,Confirmed] | 02:58 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: I don't know. I haven't fetched updates for about 5 hours? | 02:58 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: oh darn! I forgot to close that bug | 02:58 |
| Jucato | hold on I'll reboot into Edgy and confirm if it's been fixed... | 02:58 |
| eean | Hobbsee: unsolicited advice: wouldn't it make sense to have some generic way of calling kdesu/gksudo, konsole/gnome-terminal | 02:59 |
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| === Jucato wants to see this discussion first... :) | ||
| Hobbsee | eean: true that | 02:59 |
| === Jucato wonders if there's a but coming... | ||
| Hobbsee | eean: define generic - ie, across kde, across kde/gnome/xfce/etc, across amarok? | 03:01 |
| eean | Hobbsee: well you know, accross the distro | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | eean: across kubuntu? there already is. across ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu? yeah, i see your point. something apart from sudo. | 03:02 |
| eean | doesn't debian/ubuntu already do stuff like that? | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | eean: i mean, everything could just call sudo, but they seem not to like doing that. | 03:02 |
| eean | with other programs | 03:02 |
| Hobbsee | how do they do it? | 03:02 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt know | ||
| eean | I dunno, I don't use debian :P. but like gentoo has eselect for picking what java runtime environment to use. | 03:03 |
| eean | so hmm yea my /usr/bin/java is a bash script which reads that configuration | 03:04 |
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| jdong | whoo! | 03:04 |
| === jdong hugs Tonio_ | ||
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/bugs/30207 | 03:04 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30207 in kdebase "media:/ does not handle floppy mounting correctly" [Medium,Confirmed] | 03:05 |
| jdong | maybe his kdm wil start shutting down right soon :) | 03:05 |
| Jucato | yay klipper and adept_notifier now starts up properly! and I can logout normally, too! :) | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: hehe :) note that the patch isn't perfect actually, I just discovered I also have to patch kcontrol, since the connection manager still propose /sbin/halt by default | 03:05 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: the unmounting problem still hasn't been solved... :( | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: no impact as long as you don't tweak, but that needs to be fixed too | 03:05 |
| jdong | :) | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: that'll do for a start | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: that bug report has some upstream stuff that looks useful | 03:06 |
| eean | Hobbsee: its just your solution reminded me of klik. which is a horrible bash hack, and your idea is actually a lot better. :) | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: sure, but I'll gonna improve the patch to avoid this kind of problem ;) | 03:06 |
| jdong | whee! klik! | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | eean: heh. which idea was this sorry? | 03:06 |
| eean | calm down jdong | 03:06 |
| jdong | lol | 03:07 |
| jdong | klik was fun while it lasted | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: klik is a toy, absolutly not of any use ... | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | look at citrix, that's something professionnal :) | 03:07 |
| eean | Hobbsee: to try one program and then the second if the first isn't in the path | 03:07 |
| jdong | Tonio_: I know, I know... | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | although citrix also has its own issues, but that's something really usable, at least | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | eean: ahhh. yes | 03:08 |
| eean | Hobbsee: whereas klik did this thing where what they run is dependent on whether they, via bash hacks, determines whether your running kde or gnome | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | eean: ewwww.... | 03:09 |
| Tonio_ | this kcontrol module is a shit........ it should read the default kdm value instead of hardcoding its own one | 03:09 |
| jdong | :) | 03:09 |
| Jucato | :) | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: rewrite it? :P *ducks* | 03:10 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I whish I could do so :) but I can't | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: if you wanna see something horrible, look at klipper code :) | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: we discovered an horrible thing with Riddell | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hah. i'll be right. they didnt build it with yada or checkinstall too, did they? :P | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: oh? | 03:10 |
| === jdong kicks his XP box | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: klipper doesn't use .po file for translation | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | eh? what does it use then? | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | upstream uses a klipperrc.desktop file for config containing all string, so that kde translation system uses it to translate it as a desktop file | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: then the file is installed as klipperrc and contains the full translation for all laguages :) | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: isn't that horrible ? ^^ | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: *ouch* | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: that's highly evil. | 03:12 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yup ;) | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: did the k3b stuff (ie, not needing to run as root for all functionality) get fixed? | 03:12 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ? tha is what we were discussing the other day | 03:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes ;) | 03:12 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: audiocd:/ doesn't work here but media:/hdc (hdc is my cd drive) works exactly like audiocd:/ | 03:13 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: it is also the reason of the klipper crash we had, since the build system hacks desktop files on the fly, but isn't supposed to hack rc files hehe | 03:13 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: yes, I can use both here | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yep. heh | 03:13 |
| Tonio_ | media:/scd0 and audiocd:/ both are working | 03:13 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: I have sata hardware | 03:14 |
| Jucato | ugh... | 03:14 |
| jdong | grr... | 03:14 |
| === jdong needs a hug | ||
| === Tonio_ hugs jdong | ||
| jdong | note to self: don't run azureus on Windows with 512MB RAM... not ... good.. idea... | 03:14 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: mine isn't SATA, though... | 03:14 |
| jdong | is it bad for my HD to be at 89 degrees C? | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: concernint k3b, I think it has been resolved, as the need to configure it too | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: everything is supposed to work out of the box afaik | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | right, cool | 03:15 |
| === Jucato sighs... | ||
| === Hobbsee wonders why people expect a non-destructive install | ||
| Hobbsee | i mean...isnt that an oxymoron? | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | freeze soon, too | 03:22 |
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| jdong | Hobbsee: what do you mean, non-destructive install? | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: there's a thread on ubuntu-devel - they want to only format certain sections, or just install most things over the top of the current install | 03:29 |
| jdong | ah | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | seems sensible to put /home on a separate partition, and format /, but.... | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | anything else... | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: concerning bug 59007, that gnome issue, not kubuntu one :) | 03:29 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 59007 in amarok "Install MP3 support not working in Ubuntu" [Untriaged,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59007 | 03:29 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: what about a mode that rm -rf everything but /home, then do an install? | 03:29 |
| Jucato | I was thinking about that too. seems like he installed Amarok on GNOME? | 03:29 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: mepis supports that | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | .desktop file concerning this should be "onlyshowinkde" | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: true, but it's an amarok bug. | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: amarok ? | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: ask in the thread or something? | 03:29 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: yes. Amarok on GNOME | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: isn't that simply installing libxine-extracodecs ? | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: the install-mp3 script, which is in amarok | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yep | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | I don't see the point with amarok | 03:30 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: ha. mailing list.. you know how much catharsis it took for me to start using IRC? :P | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | that's xine relative | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: Riddell required us to use amarok batch install for it. also, they dont have kdesu in gnome. | 03:30 |
| eean | its only activated with xine yea | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ah ! isn't the script in adept app-install ? | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | I though that was the way to install it | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nope, it's in amarok. iv'e fixed the script twice :D | 03:31 |
| Tonio_ | stupid adding this in amarok only, since global solution in application installer would be far easier to handle, no ? | 03:31 |
| eean | Hobbsee: could get a great backtrace for http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132851 or find a user who could? | 03:31 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 132851 in knetwork "KResolver raises assert KResolverWorkerBase::acquireResolver(): Assertion `th != 0L' failed" [Crash,New] | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: well, different apps require different packages, but that could be sane | 03:32 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: how to run that script in amarok ? | 03:32 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'll fix | 03:32 |
| eean | remove extracodecs Tonio_ | 03:32 |
| eean | and try to play an mp3 | 03:32 |
| eean | it might work :) | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, that's it | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | eean: okay, let's go :) | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | eean: i dont have that sort of music shares, etc, available sorry - esp not at this time of night | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | ah ! if it works that way, look sane, indeed | 03:33 |
| Jucato | of course, you have to be in GNOME to experience the full bug, right? | 03:33 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: is the script hacking sources.list to add multiverse stuff ? | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yep | 03:34 |
| eean | Jucato: just chmod a-x some stuff :) | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: okay cool :) | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: let's go fixing | 03:34 |
| Jucato | go go go! :) | 03:34 |
| Tonio_ | I just wonder why gnome guys are using amarok........ there are gtk clones now | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: sounds cool, but i dont write python/bash scripting | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hehe, yeah. | 03:34 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: coz Amarok rox? | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: well gtk clones also rock :) | 03:35 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 03:35 |
| eean | Hobbsee: it works with a DAAP server running of your own computer. but I was thinking you might know of some technically component kubuntu users. | 03:35 |
| eean | Tonio_: lies! | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | eean: not offhand. at this time of night, anyway. | 03:35 |
| eean | competent even | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | eean: http://www.exaile.org/ | 03:35 |
| Tonio_ | eean: that's an example | 03:35 |
| eean | yea I know Tonio_ | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hehe. careful, we've got an amarok developer on our hands. | 03:35 |
| eean | that developer is funny Tonio_ | 03:35 |
| eean | he comments on amarok bugs | 03:36 |
| eean | and hangs out in #amarok sometimes | 03:36 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: something cloning a rocking stuff is de facto rocking ;) | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: true that | 03:36 |
| Tonio_ | eean: ah ;) | 03:36 |
| Tonio_ | eean: how about listen-gnome too | 03:36 |
| eean | bmpx developer also comments on our bugs | 03:36 |
| Tonio_ | looks pretty cool | 03:36 |
| eean | I don't understand these people! | 03:36 |
| eean | I don't comment on their bugs :) | 03:37 |
| Tonio_ | eean: hehe, makes sense indeed | 03:38 |
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| Jucato | Tonio_: btw, I forgot to ask, when I insert a CD, no dialog box pops up, and no Konqueror window/tab opens. All that happens is that an icon appears on the desktop. does that happen there, too? (or just my wacky hardware/system?) | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: yeah that's known issue | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: _Sime is working on this | 03:42 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates | 03:43 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: in work :) | 03:43 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: oups https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs sorry | 03:43 |
| Jucato | ah ok. I was beginning to think I was going crazy, since I found out that audiocd:/ works for you :) | 03:43 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 03:46 |
| Tonio_ | yop bddebian ;) | 03:46 |
| bddebian | Hi Tonio_ | 03:48 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: do you know when a new bunch of KDE packages will be put out for edgy? | 03:51 |
| Jucato | hi _Sime :) | 03:51 |
| _Sime | Hi | 03:52 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: in a few hours probably (0ubuntu18) | 03:52 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: why ? | 03:52 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: patches to apply ? | 03:52 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: well, there are patches on the KubuntuKDEMedia page that need to go into KDE. | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: kool, I can do the package | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | it'll be 0ubuntu19 | 03:55 |
| Jucato | yay! I'm not the only one saying "kool" :) | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: fixes the pop non appearing issue ? | 03:55 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: yeah yeah. | 03:57 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I have to apply the 2 patches in the pending section right ? | 03:57 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: I don't know if Riddell knows about that list of patches. imbrandom does though. | 03:57 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: yep | 03:57 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: okay I'm testing them and uploading if it's okay :) | 03:58 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: I've been working on fixing icons on the KDE desktop too. | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: you rock ! | 03:58 |
| === _Sime had to fight autohell; that took time. | ||
| _Sime | Tonio_: I was talking to Kevin, and he brought up some issues about my patches. | 03:59 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: great | 03:59 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: "Fast user switching" / multiple sessions has issues. | 03:59 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: because of those patches ? | 04:00 |
| _Sime | Tonio_: like, which login gets the CDROM or usb pen when it is inserted... | 04:00 |
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| jdong|laptop | oh, you guys are gonna get a laugh out of this one | 04:04 |
| jdong|laptop | my neighbor is probably the most Windows-y person you know | 04:04 |
| jdong|laptop | so he had this older computer, with no purpose, and I offered to show him Linux | 04:05 |
| jdong|laptop | I showed him Knoppix (as a competent LiveCD) *duck* | 04:05 |
| bddebian | You showed him a Kernel? | 04:05 |
| jdong|laptop | then installed Fedora for him | 04:05 |
| === bddebian ducks | ||
| jdong|laptop | he wasn't too crazy about Fedora.... | 04:05 |
| jdong|laptop | so I then installed Ubuntu for him | 04:06 |
| jdong|laptop | and his first reaction was... OMG!! It played a startup sound! | 04:06 |
| jdong|laptop | and he's now just loving Ubuntu.... because it played a freaking startup sound | 04:06 |
| Jucato | O_O | 04:06 |
| jdong|laptop | his hardware is supported by 100% OSS drivers | 04:06 |
| === Jucato wonders about kubuntu-login.ogg again.. | ||
| bddebian | hehe, sounds like a Windows user :-) | 04:06 |
| jdong|laptop | so in reality Ubuntu and Fedora are quite equivalent for him | 04:06 |
| jdong|laptop | at least in initial feel | 04:07 |
| jdong|laptop | but just because Ubuntu plays a startup sound and Fedora doesn't... he likes Ubuntu better | 04:07 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 04:07 |
| jdong|laptop | which leads me to Jucato's point.... | 04:07 |
| jdong|laptop | where's our sexy new Kubuntu startup sounds? | 04:07 |
| jdong|laptop | I haven't DARED show the guy Edgy's new sound work | 04:07 |
| jdong|laptop | he'll definitely want Edgy then :P | 04:08 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:08 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:09 |
| === Jucato sadly thinks we won't get new sounds for Kubuntu... :( | ||
| Hobbsee | Jucato: if you poke Riddell hard enough, we might :) | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: it looks like v3 patch in already in | 04:10 |
| Jucato | heh.. I tried poking him about increasing the current login sound's volume a bit. :) | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: bad news, it doesn't correct the issue here... | 04:10 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: I don't understand... | 04:11 |
| _Sime | mmmm... ok | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | patch v3 is 09/06, and no changelog in kdebase concerning its update | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | but I compared the files, they are the same | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: is the patch available on the wiki the good version ? | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | oups, 06/08 | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: isn't that a bit old to be the latest patch ? :) | 04:13 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: looks like the latest patch isn't on the wiki I think... | 04:14 |
| jdong|laptop | following Hobbsee's recommendations....... | 04:19 |
| === jdong|laptop pokes Riddell with a very long stick | ||
| === Jucato hopes jdong|laptop won't poke... | ||
| Jucato | too late... | 04:19 |
| Jucato | :) | 04:19 |
| jdong|laptop | :) | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | you might have to perform the great Riddell summoning ritual | 04:21 |
| === Jucato looks for salt... | ||
| jdong|laptop | I know he's here.... | 04:21 |
| jdong|laptop | I know he heard me... | 04:21 |
| jdong|laptop | he's ignoring me | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: jdong|laptop says "ping" | 04:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: what is the date of the patch ? cause the v3 has been added on 22 Aug according to debian/changelog | 04:21 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: sounds a bit old isn't it ? | 04:21 |
| === Jucato wonders what jdong|desktop would say... | ||
| jdong|laptop | lol, good one, Hobbsee :) | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | jdong|laptop: irssi tends to have dodgy support of nick notification | 04:22 |
| jdong|laptop | Riddell: oh, can we have new kubuntu startup sounds? please please please please please please please please? | 04:22 |
| Riddell | hmm? | 04:22 |
| jdong|laptop | please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | hehe, there you go | 04:22 |
| jdong|laptop | ;) | 04:22 |
| Riddell | what's wrong with the current one? | 04:22 |
| jdong|laptop | it's lame? | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it's very quiet | 04:22 |
| Jucato | Ubuntu has new ones? the current one is very quiet... | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | and it's kinda boring. bigger problem is that i'ts quiet | 04:22 |
| Jucato | (and we don't actually have a logout sound, aside from KDE's...) | 04:23 |
| jdong|laptop | and it needs to keep me entertained throughout the startup sequence | 04:23 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:23 |
| jdong|laptop | not announce that my celeron has taken its leisurely 35 seconds.... | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | *ouch* | 04:23 |
| Riddell | trouble with that is KDE plays the startup sound at the end of the startup sequence | 04:23 |
| Jucato | yes.. very strange, come to think of it... | 04:23 |
| jdong|laptop | Riddell: aw, a bit of autostart loving can fix that :) | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what's the intended behaviour? | 04:23 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: presumably as it is | 04:24 |
| Riddell | by the way kwwii_ handles artwork, I just do what he says | 04:24 |
| jdong|laptop | :) | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: right, so it's kwwii_ that gets bugged. | 04:24 |
| === jdong|laptop pokes kwwii_ with long stick? | ||
| === jdong|laptop primes klippy with string of please's | ||
| Riddell | and we have listened to the suggested startup sounds, and didn't like any of them | 04:25 |
| === Hobbsee shines the mind-control rubix cube in Riddell's face | ||
| kwwii_ | what? Riddell just does what I say!? oh, that changes things a bit | 04:25 |
| jdong|laptop | ah, I see | 04:25 |
| Jucato | aw... | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | "you will do what i command" :P | 04:25 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:25 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 04:25 |
| Jucato | oh krap this is bad... i'm lol'ing irl... | 04:25 |
| kwwii_ | if anyone has a good suggestion for the sounds, please offer them :-) | 04:26 |
| kwwii_ | we listened to the new sounds and were not too impressed | 04:26 |
| kwwii_ | in fact, ubuntu is using some of them and now they have complaints about them | 04:26 |
| Jucato | kwwii_: how about increasing the volume of kubunt-login.ogg just a bit? | 04:27 |
| Hobbsee | right. freeze in 16-18 hours. Tonio_, you seen that? | 04:27 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: yes I know :) | 04:28 |
| kwwii_ | Jucato: not sure how to do that...is it a configurable thing or would we have to edit the file and increase the gain somehow? | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: cool :) | 04:28 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'm on the amarok script now, looks easy to fix | 04:28 |
| Jucato | kwwii_: probaby edit the file itself. :( | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yeah, it looked sane. just that i didnt know the coding language involved :P | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | heh. i found what i was after. http://www.killourboss.com/problem.html | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | well, what iv'e been looking for for a while - almost. | 04:29 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: bash :) | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: point. | 04:29 |
| kwwii_ | Jucato: we could try, but I would hate to mess it up | 04:30 |
| kwwii_ | Jucato: or, we could ask the peron who made it to change it | 04:30 |
| Jucato | kwwii_: oh well. it was worth a suggestion :) | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | kwwii_: why not suggest that Jucato has a try? | 04:30 |
| kwwii_ | Jucato: it is a good point though, we can still look into that | 04:30 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: lol. I tried.. ended up messing it :) | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | awwww... | 04:31 |
| kwwii_ | hey Jucato, why don't you try editing it? :-) | 04:31 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 04:31 |
| kwwii_ | the author should really take care of that | 04:31 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: do you have the authors email address? | 04:31 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: of what? | 04:32 |
| Riddell | should be in debian/copyright | 04:33 |
| Riddell | but it's years old from kde-look, I don't know if I got a response when I e-mailed him | 04:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what is the gtk equivalent to kdialog ? | 04:34 |
| Tonio_ | gdialog ? ;) | 04:34 |
| jdong|laptop | lol | 04:35 |
| Jucato | zenity, I think... | 04:35 |
| Tonio_ | this amarok script has been done by someone that doesn't even imagin gnome exists :) | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: you mean to say it does? *gasp* | 04:36 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 04:36 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: there isn't one | 04:37 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: oh, the command line app? xdialog | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like zenity can do the job, I'm just reading at the man and it is okay isn't it ? | 04:38 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what job? | 04:39 |
| Riddell | zenity seems to be the preferred one | 04:39 |
| Tonio_ | kdialog equivalent :) | 04:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: are you doing install-mp3? | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, that's for amarok mp3 installer script I try to make gnome compatible..... | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes | 04:40 |
| Riddell | ah hah | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the script is pure kde hardcoded stuff :) | 04:40 |
| Riddell | that's just the way I am, hardcoded KDE :) | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | instead of 3 things one, like if kde elif gnome else foo | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you did that ? ;) | 04:41 |
| Jucato | heh | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: haha :) | 04:41 |
| Jucato | what will be used instead of Adept Batch? | 04:41 |
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| kwwii_ | Riddell: the sound files for startup, etc. | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: you forgot a crucial if condition though - the one about if (dm != kde) sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 04:43 |
| Jucato | lol | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: Zenity] doesn't have a yes/no option as of now. | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: grmpf....... hard to make gnome equivalent it seems | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | that's required to add multiverse stuff | 04:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: echo deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && apt-get update && | 04:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: gb ?????????? | 04:45 |
| Riddell | good as any other :) | 04:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes but well... :) | 04:47 |
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| Hobbsee | night all | 04:52 |
| Jucato | argh.. wasn't able to say goodbye... :( | 04:53 |
| jjesse_ | night hobbse | 04:54 |
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| _Sime | Tonio_: The latest patches don't appear to be in kde... | 04:58 |
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| _Sime | Riddell: are you aware that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuKDEMedia still has patches that need to be put into KDE? | 05:09 |
| Riddell | _Sime: yep | 05:10 |
| Jucato | _Sime: what would happen if an audio cd is inserted and opens up in Konqueror with /media instead of media:/ ? | 05:14 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: is it me or isn't "sudo echo bla > foo" working ? | 05:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I get a non autorized message | 05:22 |
| Jucato | hm.. working here... | 05:23 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: try > on a file you don't have permissions :) | 05:24 |
| Jucato | oh :) | 05:24 |
| Jucato | lol | 05:24 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: for example sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list | 05:25 |
| Tonio_ | that fails here | 05:25 |
| Tonio_ | I can echo in a script ans sudo the script but that's all I can do here | 05:25 |
| Jucato | confirmed... | 05:26 |
| jdong | Tonio_: that's not how sudo works | 05:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it's never worked | 05:29 |
| jdong | Tonio_: echo doesn't need sudo access to stdout | 05:30 |
| jdong | Tonio_: it's the parent bash (handling the redirection) that needs the escalation | 05:30 |
| jdong | Tonio_: try using sudo su -c "echo blah > foo" instead | 05:30 |
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| _Sime_ | Jucato: Audio CD goes to audio:/, there is no other place in the FS. | 05:31 |
| Jucato | sudo su -c "echo 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse' >> /etc/apt/sources.list" | 05:31 |
| Jucato | rawr... why doesn't my audiocd:/ work... :( | 05:34 |
| Tonio_ | jdong: I've done via a script, that's the same :) | 05:34 |
| jdong | :) | 05:34 |
| Jucato | _Sime_: for now, clicking on the Audio CD icon on the desktop opens up media:/ | 05:35 |
| LeeJunFan | Riddell: per our discussion the other day about flash drives being mounted with sync, I've found that FAT32 is not mounted sync, while ext3 is. I've tested with multiple media types. | 05:35 |
| LeeJunFan | Riddell: so therein lies my problem at the library, everyone's FAT32 flash drives are getting fragged becaue they pull them after the unmounting window disappears (like I told them to do), only it's still writing. | 05:36 |
| Riddell | LeeJunFan: curious, have you checked if it's the same in gnome? | 05:37 |
| LeeJunFan | Riddell: no I haven't. I'm going to follow up on it a bit later - I'll let you know what I can find out about it. | 05:38 |
| toma | Tonio_: Leo responded to the bugreport directly, can you discuss it directly with him? | 05:38 |
| _Sime_ | Jucato: The desktop icons still need work. (TODO) | 05:39 |
| Jucato | ah ok :) | 05:39 |
| Tonio_ | toma: not now gimme a moment, but yes I'd like to discuss with him | 05:42 |
| Tonio_ | toma: will do | 05:42 |
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| DaSkreech | hunger: <M3 ing basket | 05:46 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: the script is ready and should handle kde, gnome or any other DM ;) | 06:07 |
| Jucato | nice! :) | 06:07 |
| Tonio_ | I included xterm + Xdialog script in case nore kde or gnome is installed | 06:07 |
| Tonio_ | will be ugly but working | 06:07 |
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| Jucato | Tonio_: so it will also install xdialog in KDE, and xterm and xdialog in GNOME? | 06:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: could you pastebin it? | 06:08 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: no | 06:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sure gimme a minute | 06:08 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23138 | 06:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: looks good | 06:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm testing the different combinasons and uploading if it is okay | 06:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the code could be better but gnome guys can do it if they want ;) | 06:14 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: it might be worth asking about the progress of the spec that does the same thing for gstreamer, mvo was the man I think | 06:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will do | 06:17 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: the synaptic install command doesn't work... | 06:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any idea what is the equivalent of adept_batch ? | 06:38 |
| Tonio_ | gnome-app-install I think ? | 06:38 |
| Jucato | isn't gnome-app-install = adept_installer ? | 06:38 |
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| Tonio_ | Jucato: I think yes | 06:42 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ask mvo | 06:43 |
| Riddell | it's synaptic something | 06:43 |
| jdong | it's synaptic something :) | 06:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 06:44 |
| Tonio_ | synaptic man page should get love I think :) | 06:45 |
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| Tonio_ | yop raphink | 07:05 |
| raphink | yop Tonio_ | 07:06 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime_: ping ? | 07:09 |
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| seth|away | raphink, still around? | 07:21 |
| raphink | yes seth|away :) | 07:22 |
| seth|away | raphink, I think I need re-approved for REVU since you guys moved to the new Launchpad-based system :) | 07:23 |
| seth|away | I uploaded a package last night and it never showed up | 07:24 |
| allee | Tonio: what's <s> ... </s> ? | 07:24 |
| raphink | seth|away: are you in the ubuntu-universe-contributors group on LP? | 07:24 |
| seth|away | raphink, yes | 07:24 |
| raphink | let me see | 07:24 |
| seth|away | https://launchpad.net/people/seth | 07:25 |
| raphink | i'll update the keyring seth|away | 07:25 |
| raphink | it'll take a few minutes | 07:25 |
| seth | thank you raphink :) | 07:25 |
| seth | yeah, I just joined, so that's most likely it | 07:25 |
| seth | should I reupload, or will it magically appear after you update the gpg keyring | 07:26 |
| allee | Tonio_: never mind ;) | 07:26 |
| seth | yay raphink, now I have nice gpg output :) | 07:29 |
| DaSkreech | Is edgy Shipping with SMART? | 07:30 |
| raphink | seth: :) | 07:30 |
| seth | thanks for your time | 07:30 |
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| raphink | seth: no need to reupload | 07:30 |
| seth | ah | 07:31 |
| raphink | it's up already | 07:31 |
| seth | okay | 07:31 |
| seth | ah, so it is | 07:31 |
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| DaSkreech | Hi lnxkde | 07:32 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I was searching for the wikicode to bar text | 07:33 |
| Tonio_ | allee: <s> works on some wikis but not ubuntu's | 07:33 |
| allee | Tonio_: ah, 'k | 07:34 |
| allee | never tried this | 07:34 |
| Tonio_ | allee: ;) | 07:36 |
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| jdong_ | wow... openoffice is pretty useless in edgy, isn't it :P | 07:45 |
| === jdong_ just found the crash-on-save bug | ||
| jdong_ | the... hard way | 07:45 |
| Riddell | fabo: do you have any plans for updated icecc packages? | 07:57 |
| jjesse_ | on a fresh install of knot2, is anyone else seeing problems where katapult is not enabled by default? | 07:58 |
| Riddell | jjesse_: known issue, fixed too | 07:58 |
| jjesse_ | ok | 07:58 |
| _Sime_ | anyone here know about packaging policies for Python modules? | 07:59 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: a bit | 08:00 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell: do you know much about how Debian/Ubuntu handle modules and the incompatible Python ABI? | 08:00 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell: are C modules always packaged for 2.3 and 2.4 in one package? | 08:01 |
| _Sime_ | Riddell: or do you have multiple versions of the same module for the different python version? | 08:01 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: different binary packages | 08:01 |
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| Riddell | so you have python2.4-foo and python2.3-foo | 08:02 |
| _Sime_ | ok | 08:02 |
| _Sime_ | We are up to discussing BC and Python versions on the PyKDE list. | 08:02 |
| _Sime_ | I want to make things as backwards compat as possible in KDE 4 for Python modules and apps that use binary modules etc. | 08:03 |
| _Sime_ | and python-foo points to the current pythonX.Y-foo package? y/n? | 08:04 |
| Riddell | _Sime_: yes | 08:05 |
| _Sime_ | ok, I think I understand it enough. | 08:05 |
| _Sime_ | the question on the list is should sip maintain BC between KDE versions, or doesn't it matter thanks to the python module ABI changes. | 08:06 |
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| DaSkreech | Knot 3 is this week? | 08:22 |
| jdong_ | DaSkreech: apparently :) | 08:24 |
| Riddell | that's why I'm hoping nixternal will show up :) | 08:26 |
| nixternal | ya, where is that jerk anyways? | 08:26 |
| nixternal | oh wait, here I am | 08:26 |
| bddebian | heh | 08:26 |
| nixternal | no need to fear, nixternal, is here (physically, obviously not mentally) | 08:26 |
| Riddell | nixternal: will you be able to do us a Knot 3 page? | 08:27 |
| nixternal | knot 3 is thursday, and of course we will be rocking | 08:27 |
| nixternal | you know it Riddell ;) | 08:27 |
| nixternal | i will start it today of course, and it will be rather extravagant | 08:27 |
| nixternal | when is the freeze btw? | 08:28 |
| Riddell | hwdb, hibernate on logout, sime's new gamma page on displayconfig, powermanager changes and kwwii's new artwork when it comes | 08:28 |
| Riddell | don't know when freeze is | 08:28 |
| nixternal | got it...gonna go do some stuff | 08:38 |
| nixternal | bbiab | 08:38 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: amarok 1.4.3 | 08:39 |
| nixternal | oh ya..almost forgot about that ;) | 08:39 |
| nixternal | Konversation 1? or was that in Edgy 2 | 08:39 |
| nixternal | actually..no i didn't add it..it is going in this one as well | 08:39 |
| Riddell | good plan | 08:40 |
| Riddell | when did ktorrent 2 go in? | 08:40 |
| nixternal | it might not have | 08:40 |
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| Riddell | 2.0.1 is in | 08:40 |
| jdong | new kernel... that deserves mention :) | 08:41 |
| nixternal | ya, and how it breaks my laptop ;) | 08:41 |
| DaSkreech | qcomicbook got in? | 08:42 |
| jdong | nixternal: hehe | 08:42 |
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| Riddell | kwwii_: ping | 09:14 |
| Riddell | where's that new kubuntu logo of yours? | 09:14 |
| fabo | Riddell: andre sends me a mail yesterday about icecc 0.7.12 | 09:15 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: how big? there is http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu.sponsorpage.ken.png | 09:16 |
| Riddell | fabo: any plans for packaging it? the akademy dude needs packages | 09:16 |
| fabo | Riddell: i prepared it but it seems there's a bug in postint script | 09:16 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: needs a transparent background | 09:16 |
| kwwii_ | Riddell: ok, I can make one, how big? | 09:17 |
| fabo | i'll upload it today, keeping the bug on my TODO list | 09:17 |
| Riddell | kwwii_: 200 wide | 09:17 |
| DaSkreech | Is there a hardware browser in Kubuntu? | 09:20 |
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| Riddell | DaSkreech: no | 09:23 |
| Riddell | but kde-hal-device-manager is in universe | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 09:23 |
| DaSkreech | testing for edgy? | 09:24 |
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| kwwii_ | Riddell: http://bootsplash.org/kubuntu_logo_201x53.png | 09:27 |
| kwwii_ | for some reason inkscape would not export it at 200 | 09:27 |
| Riddell | that's fine :) | 09:27 |
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| DaSkreech | KDE needs a flower planting app | 09:42 |
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| kwwii_ | DaSkreech: KFlower-planter | 09:47 |
| DaSkreech | I've been beaten to it? | 09:48 |
| fabo | Riddell: sync request for icecc ? | 09:48 |
| Riddell | fabo: once it's in debian of course | 09:49 |
| kwwii_ | DaSkreech: no, no, *luckily* you still have time | 09:49 |
| fabo | uploaded, i can do the sync request ;) | 09:49 |
| Riddell | fabo: you rock | 09:50 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii_: Sweet. one of those totoally ridiculous apps that you love using but has no real value or use | 09:50 |
| fabo | :) | 09:50 |
| kwwii_ | DaSkreech: most important is that it starts with a K | 09:51 |
| DaSkreech | I was trying to think out a good name for it | 09:51 |
| DaSkreech | Something with Garden | 09:52 |
| DaSkreech | Any lanaguge spells Garden with a K? :) | 09:52 |
| kwwii_ | none that I know of | 09:52 |
| fabo | rosegarden | 09:52 |
| fabo | ;) | 09:52 |
| DaSkreech | Well maybe I can get the gwenview lawyers to get GardenView submitted to KDE :) | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | I'm sick of those distros releasing with xgl and kde | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | like opensuse or mandriva... | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | using compiz and kde is currently a nonsense.......... | 10:02 |
| DaSkreech | Well they have gnome as well | 10:02 |
| DaSkreech | And it's now all nonesense :) | 10:02 |
| DaSkreech | It make the Compiz guys realize that KDE is in demand | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: yes but they are implementing compiz on kde, using gnome-window-decorator | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | configuration is done via gconf etc.......; | 10:03 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah I know | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: that results an unthemable desktop..... | 10:03 |
| DaSkreech | What we really need is to crack the whip and wave a sign pointint out that kwin has compositing support as well as a plugin structure | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | why not wait a bit for kde4 simply ? | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | are theu so affraid of vista ? | 10:03 |
| DaSkreech | A bit = a year? | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: and ? ;) | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | I've been using a computer without 3D desktop for 10 years ;) | 10:04 |
| DaSkreech | I get itchy if stuff is out for two months | 10:04 |
| DaSkreech | Must.... have.... new | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | I can wait one more to get something nicelly implemented instead of that nasty hack like opensuse | 10:04 |
| DaSkreech | Well Suse has always done nasty hacks | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | DaSkreech: the problem is so does mandriva | 10:05 |
| DaSkreech | Well wait for a year then Kubuntu will crush them | 10:11 |
| DaSkreech | simple :) | 10:11 |
| nixternal | DaSkreech: is there a "gardensKape" app yet? ;) | 10:12 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Brilliant!! | 10:12 |
| nixternal | i will sell it to ya ;) | 10:12 |
| DaSkreech | YOu can plant flowers and watch them grow and pull out weeds | 10:12 |
| nixternal | it will cost you | 10:12 |
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| nixternal | FREE ;) | 10:12 |
| nixternal | can you afford that? ;) | 10:13 |
| nixternal | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gardenskape&btnG=Google+Search | 10:13 |
| nixternal | nothing with 'gardensKape' online | 10:13 |
| kwwii_ | now that is a good name | 10:14 |
| kwwii_ | ohhhh, yeah baby | 10:14 |
| DaSkreech | yep Time to fill up that page :) | 10:16 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:16 |
| === nixternal took a Horticulture course in college | ||
| nixternal | and when you design anything in the garden, it was called gardenscape, and when you did it for your yard or your land, it was called landscape ;) go figure ;) | 10:17 |
| DaSkreech | cool You can tell me what makes sense to take note of in flowers and fruits | 10:17 |
| DaSkreech | Like water and temp etc | 10:17 |
| nixternal | damn | 10:17 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 10:17 |
| DaSkreech | Heehee | 10:17 |
| nixternal | i just stuck my foot in my mouth didn't i? | 10:17 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 10:17 |
| DaSkreech | Make sure it wasn't fertilized | 10:17 |
| fabo | Tonio_: transkode package done ? | 10:17 |
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| kwwii_ | nixternal: I mean, you took one course in it, why can't you help? | 10:17 |
| kwwii_ | :p | 10:17 |
| nixternal | i took many courses..i actually have a landscapers certificate ;) | 10:18 |
| nixternal | part of the fun times in the navy i guess | 10:18 |
| kwwii_ | hehe | 10:18 |
| kwwii_ | a lanscaper in the navy, that makes sense | 10:18 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 10:18 |
| nixternal | funny thing was..i started the courses on a ship as well | 10:18 |
| nixternal | i remember picking flowers in Gibraltor for the course as a matter of fact | 10:19 |
| nixternal | plants as well | 10:19 |
| kwwii_ | lol | 10:19 |
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| nixternal | i remember one of them damn monkeys at the top of gibraltor stealing my beer and my shirt i bought at a store there | 10:19 |
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| Tonio_ | fabo: nope, I was just thinking about doing one, but I didn't yet :) | 10:22 |
| === fabo push on TODO | ||
| fabo | Tonio_: i'll ping you if i find time to do it before you :) | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: hehe okay :) | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | fabo: I prefer spending time to track bugs currently | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | like kdeprint that doesn't work for me at least | 10:24 |
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| nixternal | jdong: the new Ubuntu sounds are nice aren't they? | 10:52 |
| jdong | nixternal: I LOVE them :) | 10:53 |
| nixternal | i used to have the Microsoft sound thing...but 4 seconds into it, and an old ladies voice would pop up and say "STFU Already!" | 10:53 |
| nixternal | seeing as I hardly ever have to "reboot", the sounds don't matter to me ;) | 10:54 |
| jdong | I like the KDE logout sound, too.... | 10:54 |
| jdong | in that it makes fun of the XP bug | 10:54 |
| nixternal | that is the difference between Kubuntu sounds and Microsoft sounds..people don't even realise the sounds in kubuntu, as you never have to reboot it..whereas with a Windows box, it is like someone turned on the "repeat" function of a CD player ;) | 10:54 |
| jdong | lol | 10:54 |
| jdong | the MS startup/shutdown sounds are all too obnoxious IMO | 10:55 |
| jdong | I love it in computer labs when someone accidentally has their speakers on | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I think about removing the "ignore cups error messages" patch to kdelibs | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it make current kdeprint debugging almost impossible | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: may I put it in "old patches" folder ? | 11:36 |
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| DaSkreech | later guys | 11:58 |
| seth | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3093 << new polyester if anyone wants to review, cheers | 12:05 |
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