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Flannelwhy would it be?12:30
BurgundaviaFlannel: there are serious trademark concerns12:30
Burgundaviait is not an offiical ubuntu project12:30
Flannelisn't it called something else though?12:30
Burgundaviathere is Icthux, which is KDE12:31
Burgundaviauce is GNOME12:31
FlannelAh, maybe thats what I was confusing12:31
Burgundaviaicthux is the right way to do it, uce is not12:31
Burgundaviasadly uce has gotten more press12:32
Flannelright.  I wasnt aware they weren't one and the same12:32
Flannelthat's because the creator made a big hubub in the forums12:32
Burgundaviaand bought advertising on DistroWatch12:32
Flanneloh?12:32
FlannelHow random12:32
Burgundaviathat is how he got listed so quickly12:32
Flannelstill not sure why it's not just an easyubuntu-ish script that'll christianize (that's like jazzercize) your ubuntu12:34
FlannelCE... so misleading.  Everytime I see it, I think mobile ;)12:35
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ompaulCE the mark that traders get in .eu for consumer electronics12:52
ompaulCE the mark that traders get in .eu for consumer electical kit sorry12:52
ompaulapproved12:53
Burgundaviaompaul: sorry?12:55
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ompaulBurgundavia, as Flannel siad "CE... so misleading."12:56
Burgundaviaah, yes12:56
johnlittlehttp://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-09-10T223401Z_01_L1391607_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-AFRICA-OPENSOURCE.XML01:11
johnlittleReuters story will have a huge impact01:11
Burgundaviajohnlittle: can you add that to UWN 14?01:14
johnlittlealready in progress01:14
Burgundaviacool, thanks01:14
Burgundaviajohnlittle: you can ubuntu member yet?01:15
johnlittleno01:15
Burgundaviayou should01:15
Burgundaviashould I organize a UWN meeting?01:17
johnlittlefor format issues?01:18
Burgundaviajust a general meeting01:21
Burgundaviatalk about format, non-english, new contributers01:21
johnlittlesounds like a good idea01:22
Burgundaviawhen is a good time?01:26
Burgundaviagiven we are the two most active conributors, I want us both there01:26
Burgundaviawednesday, thursday and friday work for me01:26
johnlittlewhat time are you thinking?01:27
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Burgundaviaanytime between midnight UTC and 5am UTC01:27
johnlittleWed or Thur would work for me01:28
Burgundaviawhat timezone are you?01:29
johnlittlecentral01:29
Burgundaviaright01:30
BurgundaviaWednesday, at 1am UTC? (that is 6pm for me and 8pm for you)01:30
johnlittlesounds good01:31
BurgundaviaI will announce it01:31
johnlittlecool01:32
Burgundaviawoot! my inbox is clear, for the first time is almost a month02:30
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elkbuntuBurgundavia, you wanted me earlier?03:45
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Burgundaviaelkbuntu: just wanted you to edit the template, but you had already gone04:02
elkbuntui've already edited the template to put in the menu/contents box04:04
elkbuntui presumed that was what you were wanting from the talk i came back to after you'd gone to bed04:05
Burgundaviaright04:05
BurgundaviaI edited it more extensively04:06
elkbuntufair enough. you knew what was needed as such04:07
poningruwhat are we working on?04:08
Burgundaviayes04:09
Burgundaviahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate <-- we were workiong this, to bring it into line with the latest UWN04:09
Burgundaviawe are also writing on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue1404:10
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elkbuntumeanwhile, did you enjoy your brief visit to -au ;)04:29
Burgundaviaau?04:33
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elkbuntu;)04:35
Burgundaviaoh04:35
Burgundaviayes, I wondered how many people au had managed to attract04:36
Burgundaviagiven au and ca are very similar countiies04:36
elkbuntuin active times, above 4004:36
Burgundaviawe rarely go above 2004:36
elkbuntuwow04:36
Burgundaviabut then again, there is no Linux Canada04:36
Burgundaviais that self organization or did you go out and find people?04:37
elkbuntufujitsu and yukicuss basically got it to 20 or so overnight.. then they got sucked back into school and so forth04:37
Burgundaviahow much overlap is there between -au and LA?04:38
elkbuntuum.. there's a few LA members. LA is quite ubuntu-biased i think but it's still quite a seperate affair04:39
BurgundaviaI almost wonder if it is our proximity to the US04:39
elkbuntuno, i wouldnt think. however jono was -thinking- about loco mentoring, and New Zealand's loco is a mess at the moment, but that's nothing to do with au. we have 1 nz'er in our midsts because the nz loco is the state it is and he's not much a community person04:40
elkbuntuok that was like 2 thoughts in one04:41
elkbuntubut yeah. the us loco is fairly broken up by state now, so the canada loco should not be that disadvantaged by the proximity04:42
Burgundaviawell, canada is a spread pretty thin04:43
Burgundaviaau is mostly along the coast04:43
Burgundaviaand tbh, I have not been that active is getting people out04:43
elkbuntua good handfull are adelaide so south central, and there's perthians also04:44
Burgundaviahaving people like jdub and pia in your corner is a always a good thing04:44
elkbuntuwell.. jdub is never -in- the loco channel and just rears his head on the list occasionally. pia is often in the channel, but often idle and even less occasionally pops up on the list04:45
Burgundaviaplus running a loco team is basically a full time job04:45
elkbuntutell me about it...04:45
Burgundaviathat they exist and are high profile helps04:45
elkbuntuwho got snared for the canada stickers distribution?04:46
BurgundaviaI currently devote so much to ubuntu in general, it is hard04:46
Burgundaviame04:46
Burgundaviaare you AU?04:46
elkbuntuyep04:46
elkbuntuim going to go check my PO box soon and see if i have ups from the 5 envelopes i got on friday04:46
Burgundaviano matter how many people are active, it always seems like 90% of the load is carried by 10% of the people04:46
BurgundaviaI got 2 on Friday04:47
elkbuntuthat is usually how things go with n-f-p things04:47
BurgundaviaI expect to get a bunch more tomorrow04:47
elkbuntui got 1 on wed, 1 on thur, 5 on fri..04:47
elkbuntuit's incremental i think ;)04:47
BurgundaviaI need to publicize it more widely04:47
Burgundavianeed a freaking crm04:48
elkbuntui put it on our list, and have kept people uptodate with the progress, i think someone put it on the loco wiki page but i havent seen it04:48
elkbuntucrm?04:48
Burgundaviacustomer relations manager04:48
Burgundaviabasically a database of contacts04:48
Burgundaviawe need a simple one, to handle contacts and mailing to those contacts04:48
elkbuntuyeah.. i need a freaking job to support this freaking addiction ;)04:48
elkbuntujono is open for talking mostly i've found04:49
Burgundaviafigured I might play with civicrm04:49
Burgundaviasee if meets our needs04:49
Burgundaviagiven I work with a crms all day atwork04:49
elkbuntusure04:49
elkbuntui suggest at some point having a talk to jono if you havent04:50
BurgundaviaI will04:50
Burgundaviajono and I, despite having written a book together, have only talked once on the phone04:51
elkbuntui know it's -yet another channel- but maybe join the -locoteams channel?04:52
Burgundaviahmm, thought I was04:52
Burgundaviamust have lost it when i moved from my old install to this one04:52
elkbuntueasy to do04:52
elkbuntuanyway, i've got things to do and im sure you do also04:54
Burgundaviasort of. Need ot finish a cover letter for a new job04:54
elkbuntui've got about a dozen of those to do sometime today also04:55
Burgundaviathis is basically "finish the cover letter, they hire me"04:55
elkbuntuyou lucky bastard04:55
Burgundaviaright place, right time04:55
elkbuntustill, previous statement applies04:56
elkbuntui havent had a proper job in years, did delivery work since and ruined a car in the process so :(04:56
Burgundaviaright04:57
elkbuntulets just say i really really suck at faking enthusiasm04:57
Burgundaviaso you are currenlty unemployed?04:58
elkbuntuyep04:58
elkbuntuanyway, gotta go do some stuff, wont be long04:59
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elkbuntuBurgundavia, 9 envelopes today05:53
Burgundaviawow05:54
elkbuntuthe effect is incremental05:55
elkbuntuahahaha. this one's great:05:55
elkbuntuperson's name05:56
elkbunturegistered linux user #....05:56
elkbunturegistered ubuntu user #....05:56
elkbuntuaddress05:56
elkbuntuhe's seriously addressed it like that05:56
elkbuntuok.. make that 10 envelopes.. one had 2 envelopes in it :)06:03
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livingdaylight!seen madpilot09:59
livingdaylight!seen Madpilot10:00
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johnlittlethe effect of the reuters article: http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&q=Ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d05:45
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Burgworkhttp://edition.cnn.com/ <-- front page of cnn08:14
johnlittleyep..cnn stories have a very long shelf life too..i still get hits from the one I appeared in 3-4 years ago08:23
Burgworkah, cool08:24
Burgworktoo bad CNN is awful with external links08:24
BurgworkBBC is much better08:24
Burgworkhmm, nothing ont eh beeb yet08:25
johnlittlethey tend to do their own thing more than they rehash the wires08:28
Burgworkyes, they do08:30
Burgworkmakes them a better news organization08:30
BurgworkI think they have the largest organization of reporters in the world08:30
nixternalThursday!08:44
nixternalhave you guys been watching CNN Headline News?08:45
nixternalit has been on there all day long08:45
nixternalwhen they do the "Technology" thing they do, they talk very briefly about it08:46
johnlittlejust switched over08:53
nixternalit is quick, and i mean. 5 to 10 seconds, as "Microsoft does something in Africa, and then something really quick about Cosmonaut and OSS"08:58
nixternalthats the stint of it08:59
nixternalthey don't say Ubuntu, Canonical, Linux or nothing08:59
johnlittleWell that sucks but its all good. It gets us on the radar and will lead to more mainstream attention09:08
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