[10:02] <HedgeMage> Hey, folks.  Who've we got?
[10:04] <HedgeMage> hi sbalneav 
[10:04] <sbalneav> Hello
[10:04] <HedgeMage> I think it may be just you and me, unfortunately.
[10:04] <HedgeMage> Have you taken on any of the Handbook Edgy Tasks, or are you just visiting? :)
[10:05] <sbalneav> No handbook tasks, mainly LTSP thin client tasks :)
[10:06] <HedgeMage> ahh, cool :)
[10:06] <sbalneav> I was thinking when I got back from my trip with ogra, I might see if I could add some doco on thin client stuff
[10:06] <sbalneav> hence my popping in.
[10:07] <HedgeMage> Cool
[10:07] <HedgeMage> hi pygi 
[10:10] <HedgeMage> I guess this will be a super-short meeting due to attendance (or lack thereof)
[10:14] <HedgeMage> I guess we've given up on our schedule and everything is just "ASAP"
[10:15] <pygi> HedgeMage, right :-/
[10:15] <HedgeMage> In the next couple of days I intend to go through and bring as many of the old chapters up to date as possible, in addition to doing the stuff I signed up for, and toss a commit at the main ubuntu doc repo people
[10:15] <HedgeMage> If anyone can help with the bringing up-to-date of the old stuff, that will be the biggest help with the least work.
[10:17] <sbalneav> There's a thin client section?
[10:17] <pygi> HedgeMage, nobody is really willing to write ('cept me, you and mhz)
[10:18] <HedgeMage> pygi: and Joyce.
[10:18] <pygi> and joyce, ok :)
[10:18] <sbalneav> If there's a thin client section, I can go through that this week.
[10:18] <HedgeMage> Oh, and RobinSheapard... he and I are the only ones who've committed so far
[10:18] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: that would be Wonderful!!!
[10:19] <pygi> I dont commit...I dont have svn acc. neither I have time to commit
[10:19] <sbalneav> Are we doing this on the wiki, or are there some docbooky type things needed?
[10:19] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: we're doing it in docbook (I'll make you a svn login if you want as we have a temp repo until stuff with the ubuntu-doc repo is straightened)
[10:20] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: if you want to do it in plaintext or whatever, I can mark it up if needed 
[10:20] <sbalneav> Make me the svn account, and I can deal with it from there.  Is there a specific tool you use for editing?
[10:21] <sbalneav> I might as well use what everyone else does.
[10:22] <nixternal> HedgeMage: have you gotten a time-frame for the ubuntu-doc repo stuff to be setup for you yet?
[10:23] <HedgeMage> nixternal: no, I've been offline for several weeks due to my husband having surgery.
[10:23] <HedgeMage> nixternal: so I have no clue what's going on
[10:23] <nixternal> hmm..there is an Edubuntu directory currently on the ubuntu-doc repo
[10:23] <HedgeMage> nixternal: but we don't have anyone with commit privs.
[10:23] <nixternal> browser-startpage, EdubuntuAbout, EdubuntuReleaseNotes, images, libs, menus, SchoolAdvocacy
[10:24] <HedgeMage> None of that is Handbook though
[10:24] <nixternal> HedgeMage: if you need stuff committed to the ubuntu-doc repos i can do it
[10:24] <HedgeMage> nixternal: I know Edubuntu has stuff on there.
[10:24] <nixternal> ahh ok
[10:24] <nixternal> maybe just wait for mdke to come around and see how he wants to do it i guess?
[10:24] <HedgeMage> nixternal: cool... I need to make one big patch out of all the stuff in the temp repo so far and that will be a good start
[10:24] <nixternal> that will work
[10:25] <nixternal> i know mdke is on holiday for a couple of weeks
[10:25] <HedgeMage> nixternal: we've heard like 5 things from different docteam people... the only things that were consistant were to submit patches *then* ask for commit access.
[10:25] <nixternal> if you make a patch, you can email it to me and the ubuntu-doc list -> nixternal@ubuntu.com
[10:25] <HedgeMage> cool, thanks
[10:25] <nixternal> ya, commit access goes through Canonical RTS
[10:26] <HedgeMage> I'll get around to it ASAP... things are still crazy at home though, so it may take a day or three.
[10:26] <nixternal> so, i think that mdke actually puts in for that
[10:26] <nixternal> thats perfect
[10:26] <nixternal> i am doing knot 3 release notes for Kubuntu, as well as another doc projects..so that is good ;)
[10:26] <HedgeMage> Someone else had offered the same thing (committing patches for it) but I don't even remember who :(  I've just been so out of it with all the chaos here.
[10:26] <nixternal> im sure glad i decided to see what the activity was going on in here ;)
[10:27] <nixternal> hehe no problem...
[10:28] <HedgeMage> :D Thanks!
[10:28] <sbalneav> HedgeMage: Don't know if you caught it, do you use any particular editor/tool for the markup?  In the past, I've done all my docbook in vi, but I'll gladly use whatever the "standard" tool is.
[10:28] <nixternal> sbalneav: any text editor will work
[10:29] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: whatever your favorite editor is is fine
[10:29] <nixternal> i know some use Bluefish
[10:29] <sbalneav> ok, vi it is.
[10:29] <nixternal> i use Kate with xml validation built in
[10:29] <sbalneav> :)
[10:29] <nixternal> the ubuntu-doc repos have a script (validate.sh) that will do xml validation for you as well...you want to make sure it validates priort to comitting
[10:30] <sbalneav> As the newb here, where's the ubuntu-docs repo at?
[10:32] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Repository
[10:32] <nixternal> that provides you everything you need to get rockin' ;)
[10:32] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: if you want I can set you up for the temp handbook repo (the idea is we'll submit changes to that repo as patches to the ubuntu-doc one so nothing gets missed)
[10:34] <sbalneav> Sure.  I've used svn before, checking the wiki's now.
[10:36] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: the repo is at http://svn.binaryredneck.net/handbook
[10:38] <sbalneav> HedgeMage: OK, checked out.
[10:38] <HedgeMage> cool
[10:38] <HedgeMage> nixternal: thanks.  Not many coders/admins/geeks grow up on hog farms, so it seemed to fit :D
[10:38] <nixternal> im a redneck at heart ;)
[10:39] <nixternal> livin' in the big city
[10:39] <HedgeMage> hehe
[10:40] <sbalneav> .xml.old?  Edit to those? Or edit & rename to .xml? :)
[10:40] <HedgeMage> edit and rename
[10:40] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:40] <HedgeMage> that's just so we know what's not been done yet
[10:40] <sbalneav> NO
[10:40] <sbalneav> NP, sorry
[10:41] <HedgeMage> just make sure to use "svn mv" to rename so subversion knows what you did :)
[10:42] <sbalneav> Do you want a move, or an add, to keep the .old around?
[10:44] <HedgeMage> Move... if we have both I'll get confused :)
[10:44] <HedgeMage> I have backups of all the .old files, and if we ever needed to, we can revert a file
[10:44] <sbalneav> k, will do.
[10:45] <HedgeMage> You rock :)
[10:46] <HedgeMage> Also, this is the wiki page with various handbook info: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuHandbook
[10:46] <HedgeMage> (just in case you need it)
[10:46] <HedgeMage> and don't forget to add yourself to the contributors' list :D
[10:48] <sbalneav> I'm actually one of the developers for LTSP, and we've spent a lot of time working with ogra on the implementation on edgy, so hopefully, you'll see the section grow quite a bit :)
[10:49] <HedgeMage> Cool :D
[10:54] <HedgeMage> Good meeting, folks.  I'm out of here for the moment, I have to check on the gimp and get the muchkin donw to nap