[01:54] <Plug> Can I grab a couple of reviews of http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3080 ?
[01:56] <Fujitsu> I wouldn't mind a couple for http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3084 either.
[02:48] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:50] <Burgundavia> hey bddebian
[02:50] <bddebian> Hi Burgundavia
[02:51] <Fujitsu> Hi bddebian.
[02:52] <bddebian> Hi Fujitsu
[02:52] <Fujitsu> I've revised lucidlife, do you have time to take a look and re-advocate?
[02:52] <bddebian> What did you change?
[02:53] <Fujitsu> I fixed the issues mentioned on http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3084.
[02:53] <Fujitsu> Upstream added GPL headers to the sources on my request...
[02:53] <Fujitsu> And I split the data off into a seperate package.
[02:54] <bddebian> Fujitsu: Ah, cool, OK
[03:02] <bddebian> Hmm, maybe I'm not detailed enough to review properly :'-(
[03:05] <Fujitsu> Sure you are :)
[03:07] <bddebian> Fujitsu: I need his help for something :-)
[03:07] <bddebian> Or ajmitch would do :-)
[03:07] <bddebian> or probably slomo_ :-)
[03:26] <Fujitsu> Thanks bddebian :)
[03:26] <Fujitsu> I don't think they should be in the data package...
[03:26] <Fujitsu> Hi ajmitch :)
[03:27] <Fujitsu> Less tired than yesterday?
[03:27] <ajmitch> sure
[03:27] <ajmitch> but at work now
[03:27] <Fujitsu> What do you do?
[03:27] <ajmitch> coding/sysadmin stuff
[03:28] <ajmitch> small company
[03:28] <Fujitsu> OK.
[03:36] <Fujitsu> Hi LaserJock.
[03:37] <zul_> Hey LaserJock how is it going?
[03:41] <fowlduck> LJ is so popular
[03:43] <bddebian> He is a God among us mere mortals :-)
[03:43] <crimsun> bddebian is wrongly using "us". Don't be fooled by his sheep's clothing; he's a deity, too.
[03:44] <bddebian> Yeah right, I'm a freakin' nobody
[03:44] <crimsun> not according to Google
[03:44] <bddebian> Heya welshbyte
[03:44] <bddebian> crimsun: Google?
[03:44] <welshbyte> ello bddebian
[03:45] <welshbyte> and all
[03:46] <bddebian> crimsun: Got any time to help me with something?
[03:46] <crimsun> in 3-4 hours, perhaps.
[03:46] <bddebian> I'll be asleep by then hopefully :-)
[03:47] <bddebian> Good timing ;-P
[04:28] <Hobbsee> hey all
[04:28] <bddebian> Heya Hobbsee
[04:28] <ajmitch> hello miss hobbs
[04:29] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian, ajmitch :)
[04:30] <Fujitsu> Heya Hobbsee.
[04:31] <welshbyte> hey Hobbsee
[04:31] <Hobbsee> hey Fujitsu, welshbyte
[04:31] <Hobbsee> does someone have a large axe for work tonight?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: hehe, thanks!
[04:32] <bddebian> I have a Scottish Claymore, will that do?
[04:32] <Fujitsu> ?
[04:32] <Fujitsu> Where does fine Hobbsee work at this time?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: at a supermarket
[04:32] <Fujitsu> And what role do you fulfil?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: we sell cigarettes.  on saturday night, i was the only one there from 6.40, and the store got hit at 7, with a couple of guys with an umbrella breaking into the cupboard and trying to steal cartons of cigarettes
[04:33] <Hobbsee> on the checkouts - including the cigarette kiosk
[04:33] <Fujitsu> Nice.
[04:34] <Hobbsee> rather, so i'm not wishing to go back and work a night shift terribly much
[04:34] <Fujitsu> Rahaha.
[04:34] <Kyral> Go play with XGL
[04:34] <Fujitsu> So stay here and review one of my packages :P
[04:34] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:35] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: that's the trouble - that puts my coworker in a lot more danger.
[04:35] <Kyral> Hey Hobbsee if I randomly show up in Aussieland can I come visit?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> Kyral: maybe, why?
[04:35] <Kyral> dunno
[04:35] <Kyral> 'cause I feel like it (I have no plans to visit Aussie anytime soon lol)
[04:35] <Hobbsee> heh.  right
[04:36] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: am i allowed to visit? ;)
[04:36] <Fujitsu> Why not, Kyral?
[04:36] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you seem safe.  adn you cope with my driving :P
[04:36] <Kyral> Fujitsu: school is in session
[04:36] <Kyral> lol
[04:36] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you're brave to want to come again, now that you know what my house is like
[04:36] <Fujitsu> Pfft. School...
[04:37] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: glutton for punishment, perhaps
[04:37] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: heh.  right.
[04:38] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: for who's punishment?  :P
[04:38] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: i dont remember you getting told off.
[04:38] <ajmitch> heh
[04:38] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you were just instructed to have my home by midnight, which you couldnt control anyway, as i was driving :P
[04:38] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:39] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: and pia
[04:39] <Kyral> Hobbsee: ajmitch has met me in person...if thats not punishment I dunno what is
[04:39] <Hobbsee> and jdub
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Kyral: heh, true that
[04:40] <Fujitsu> Because I'm a lowly little nothing.
[04:40] <imbrandon> moins all
[04:40] <Kyral> Morning?
[04:40] <Kyral> Local Time is now: Sun Sep 10 22:42:54 EDT 2006
[04:40] <welshbyte> hey imbrandon
[04:41] <Kyral> I hate timezones :P
[04:41] <Fujitsu> Afternoon, imbrandon.
[04:41] <Fujitsu> Kyral, don't we all.
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: come up to sydney and meet some of us.  maybe for LCA
[04:41] <imbrandon> heya ajmitch StevenK Hobbsee welshbyte Kyral Fujitsu , ahhh forget it ...... everyone was better ;)
[04:41] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[04:41] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:41] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon
[04:41] <imbrandon> oh bddebian ;)
[04:41] <imbrandon> heya
[04:41] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, how am I meant to do that/
[04:41] <bddebian> heh
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: come up for a holiday during LCA
[04:42] <Hobbsee> dunno where you'd stay though
[04:42] <Fujitsu> erm, I have parents and no money.
[04:42] <imbrandon> hotel
[04:42] <Kyral> Hobbsee's house :P
[04:42] <imbrandon> hahaha
[04:42] <Hobbsee> hah
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Kyral: i'll let ajmitch answer that one.
[04:42] <imbrandon> wouldent*
[04:42] <Hobbsee> he knows what my house is like :P
[04:42] <bddebian> wouldn't ;-P
[04:43] <imbrandon> hehe yea
[04:43] <imbrandon> hey thats what computers are for , math and spelling ( i just use it for neither one it seems )
[04:43] <Fujitsu> Now, with this flood of MOTUs, is somebody (other then bddebian) available to second http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3084?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> hah
[04:43] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: will
[04:43] <Kyral> I'm not a MOTU....
[04:43] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: yes?
[04:44] <imbrandon> heh
[04:44] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: you can answer to the staying at my house bit, and do the reuv :P
[04:44] <Kyral> and Hobbsee if your house is messy, then you have never seen my dorm room
[04:44] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah.  hehe. i like that idea!
[04:44] <Plug> ajmitch: me first, biiatch
[04:44] <ajmitch> Plug: wait your turn
[04:45] <imbrandon> someday i should go to that big island on the other side of the world, just dunno when, would be cool to go see the opera house though
[04:45] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: and no, I'm not reviewing today
[04:45] <Fujitsu> Australia is good!
[04:46] <Hobbsee> Kyral: it's nto that that's the problem.
[04:46] <Kyral> Like I pay attention to copyright law in the first play
[04:47] <Kyral> s/play/place
[04:48] <Kyral> Fuck the RIAA
[04:49] <Kyral> ...eh
[04:49] <Kyral> Just a matter of time before my membership expires
[04:49] <Burgundavia> Kyral: first memberships don't expire until august of next year
[04:50] <Kyral> ..notice I said "just a matter of time" I never gave a time span :P
[04:50] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: is that for everyone?
[04:50] <imbrandon> heh i think i'm gonna set another regex to take away Fujitsu's /me
[04:50] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, 2 years
[04:50] <imbrandon> the "first members ships"
[04:50] <Burgundavia> 2 years for everybody
[04:50] <imbrandon> s/\ //
[04:50] <Burgundavia> yep
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: right, so 2 years after they applied, or just two years since memberships started occuring?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> the former, presumably
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: by the way, i have something i'd like in the UWN next week.
[04:52] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: for you my darling, anything ;)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: :)
[04:53] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: you need the info in by what...friday night or something?
[04:54] <Burgundavia> sooner the better
[04:54] <Burgundavia> what are you planning to write?
[04:56] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: i'm thinking about discussing ubuntu-universe-sponsors and ubuntu-main-sponsors, and how to best use them.  most people dont know they exist, it seems.  then again, i'm not sure if it's quite the right place for that.
[04:56] <Burgundavia> UWN is a great place fo rthat
[04:57] <Hobbsee> on the other hand, it does give people easy ways of knowinghow they can contribute code
[04:57] <Burgundavia> if you can figure out a news story out of it, so much the better
[04:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:57] <Hobbsee> might help if i write it :P
[04:57] <Burgundavia> indeed
[04:58] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: does require that people actively review fixes put there
[04:58] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: true that.
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: they still get more reviews than people who file bugs under a package with attached patches, which someone only looks at once in a blue moon
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: universe package has worked pretty weel - crimsun does a lot of work with it
[04:59] <ajmitch> yeah
[04:59] <ajmitch> I haven't
[04:59] <imbrandon> i check it alot too ( just crimsun gets it before me alot of the time )
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: yeah, but you're the lazy MOTU :P
[04:59] <ajmitch> quite true
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: the self proclaimed one
[04:59] <imbrandon> s/lazy/busy
[05:00] <imbrandon> hehe
[05:00] <imbrandon> bddebian, you out here in the midwestish right? you heading to the confrence in ohio ?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: fix ubuntu, kthnksbye!
[05:00] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: ENOTIME
[05:01] <bddebian> imbrandon: I'm in Pennsylvania
[05:01] <bddebian> What conference?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:01] <imbrandon> ahh stuck in the middle of the east cost and the midwest hehe , its linuxfest or some such in ohio soon, lrl and llts was talking about it
[05:02] <imbrandon> next week i think, dunno i would have to google it again, was just wondering , you were the closest person to it other than myself that i actualy talk to
[05:03] <bddebian> Damn I wish I'd known about it.  Though RL work has me pretty bogged down at the moment :-(
[05:03] <Fujitsu> hell
[05:03] <imbrandon> ahh well i guess i'll go ahead and blog about my new boy since the pictures are takin longer than i thought
[05:04] <Fujitsu> Gah.\\
[05:04] <Fujitsu> Stupid people stealing my laptop.
[05:04] <imbrandon> bddebian, http://www.ohiolinux.org/ September 30, 2006 it seems
[05:05] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: your laptop is being stolen?
[05:05] <imbrandon> thats only a few hours from here i might be able to make it, although i need to make a trip to reno soon to see my new son so i might not have the funds at the end of sept
[05:07] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, yup.
[05:08] <Fujitsu> While I'm being graffitied.
[05:08] <Hobbsee> ...right....
[05:08] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[05:08] <Fujitsu> Not particularly great.
[05:09] <Fujitsu> And regarding the above, people generally do a good job of getting to ubuntu-universe-sponsors stuff fairly quickly.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: when it's not on crack :P
[05:10] <ajmitch> Fujitsu: for the current workload, yes
[05:10] <Fujitsu> What, like `Please merge/sync X'? :P
[05:10] <ajmitch> Fujitsu: or pydb :)
[05:11] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: s/X/ndiswrapper/
[05:11] <Fujitsu> Oh, ndiswrapper. Fun.
[05:12] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: yes.  some idiot thought that we could just randomly sync ndiswrapper, even though there were ubuntu changes.
[05:12] <Fujitsu> Terrific.
[05:14] <Fujitsu> Let's randomly sync every package in Ubuntu.
[05:14] <Fujitsu> That'll work.
[05:15] <Fujitsu> How often are packages in NEW approved?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: once in a blue moon
[05:17] <ajmitch> tuesdays & fridays
[05:17] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: hehe, eyah
[05:17] <ajmitch> are the 2 main archive days
[05:17] <ajmitch> more often if they're urgent
[05:17] <Fujitsu> OK.
[05:38] <imbrandon>  ... cuz we all just wanna be big rocks, live in hill top houses drive'n 15 cars ....  
[05:38] <imbrandon> hmmm something productive, that would be good
[05:38] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: heh.  fix the kdm logout.
[05:38] <imbrandon> dident lure fix that today ?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> yes, but i'm not sure if "turn off computer" actually works now
[05:39] <imbrandon> heh it was all the same issue, i'm sure it is, but i dont have a computer to "turn off" to test it atm ;)
[05:43] <ajmitch> someone get me a faster computer please
[05:43] <imbrandon> heh ajmitch dont you have a pretty fast machine atm ?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: with the 12 or 16gb of ram?  heh
[05:43] <imbrandon> thought you had a ~3ghz amd64
[05:43] <ajmitch> just the 4200+ x2
[05:44] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: only 4GB :P
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hah
[05:44] <Hobbsee> pathetic
[05:44] <imbrandon> heh i could deal with about 4 more gigs of ram
[05:44] <ajmitch> yeah
[05:44] <ajmitch> imbrandon: so could I :)
[05:44] <imbrandon> wow 4200+ , my fastest single machine is 2gb ram 3400+ amd64 ( not x2 )
[05:44] <imbrandon> heh
[05:45] <imbrandon> and linking is still slow on it heh
[05:46] <ajmitch> mutt just takes awhile to apply a filter to my bugs folder
[05:46] <imbrandon> i would love a new coreduo with about 4 to 8 gb ram though
[05:46] <ajmitch> it's only ~500MB
[05:46] <imbrandon> heh that is likely mutts fault not the computer
[05:46] <imbrandon> dunno if mutt was made to handle large mailboxes
[05:47] <ajmitch> it's not like it's cpu bound :)
[05:47] <ajmitch> and it only slows down when it's a regex filter
[05:47] <imbrandon> ahh
[05:47] <ajmitch> or a simple header filter
[05:47] <ajmitch> so it's trying to match against >100K messages
[05:47] <imbrandon> yea
[05:48] <imbrandon> kmail does "ok" with my bug mail folder when searching , but i only have about 250 - 300mb in that imap folder
[05:48] <imbrandon> if that probably closer to 250
[05:49] <imbrandon> never realy tried mutt cept when i /absolutly/ have to
[05:49] <ajmitch> I use things remotely a lot
[05:49] <imbrandon> yea thats about the only time i do it, but 90% or better of the time i can get to my imap server
[05:49] <imbrandon> from a client
[05:50] <imbrandon> and the few times i cant i have been looking at installing roundcube on the mail server
[05:50] <imbrandon> its realy slick looking
[05:51] <ajmitch> heh
[05:51] <imbrandon> but seeing as i ssh into the imap server to use mutt, normaly if i can ssh in i can just setup the client ( unless its not my machine , thats when i use ssh+mutt )
[05:52] <imbrandon> and a big plus is all my filters and such are handled server side by proc mail , so it littlerly takes 5 seconds to setup a new mail client
[05:52] <ajmitch> yep, I have a very large .procmailrc
[05:53] <imbrandon> hehe
[05:53] <imbrandon> procmail + fetchmail + google pop ( easy spam filtering ) rocks ( well for me )
[05:54] <imbrandon> all mail to google ---> fetchmail --> procmailrc --> imap --> client , works out great for myself, dunno how well it would scale but i'm not looking at running a company that way heh
[05:55] <Laser_away> I mostly just do gmail for Ubuntu stuff
[05:55] <Laser_away> I use procmail at school
[05:56] <imbrandon> ;)
[05:56] <imbrandon> heya Laser_away
[05:56] <Fujitsu> My ubuntu.com.au IMAP -> client method works well.
[05:56] <Fujitsu> No fetchmail/POP3 involved.
[05:57] <Laser_away> yeah, thats what i do at school
[05:57] <imbrandon> Fujitsu, yup if you only use one email address actively that ok, but i use @kubuntu.org @imbrandon.com @gmail.com all three for diffrent things
[05:57] <Fujitsu> Does the kubuntu.org one not just redirect?
[05:57] <Laser_away> i use gmail for those
[05:58] <imbrandon> to gmail yea
[05:58] <imbrandon> all redirect to gmail actualy ;)
[05:58] <Fujitsu> I also use my ISP one a bit (I'm migrating away from it), that's ISP POP3 -> fetchmail -> procmail -> courier-IMAPD -> client..
[05:58] <imbrandon> yup
[05:59] <imbrandon> Laser_away, check my last post on the planet, i'm comming to your home very soonish
[05:59] <imbrandon> heh
[06:00] <Laser_away> yikes
[06:00] <imbrandon> hehe
[06:05] <imbrandon> gah i realy need to find something to do, i'm bored outa my mind, and find my self sitting here stairing at the IRC channel
[06:05] <Kyral> Jack off
[06:05] <imbrandon> heh
[06:06] <Kyral> oh **** this isn't #ubuntuforums...
[06:06] <imbrandon> i ahve a wife for that ( but that realy isnt called for in here , even as off topic as we get at times )
[06:06] <Fujitsu> Er, yeah...
[06:06] <Burgundavia> really...
[06:06] <imbrandon> s/ahve/have
[06:06] <Kyral> sorry guys... lol
[06:06] <Kyral> I thought he was saying that in #ubuntuforums....
[06:07] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[06:07] <Fujitsu> -regarding
[06:07] <Burgundavia> #ubuntu-boredsoIamwackingoff
[06:07] <Kyral> lol
[06:07] <imbrandon> Kyral, i dont goto ubuntuforums but imho it shouldent be cool in there either as its not very CoC'ish but anyhow i dunt wanna preach either ;)
[06:08] <Burgundavia> imbrandon: if it is not being coc, then somebody should be telling them off
[06:08] <Fujitsu> It's very un-CoCish...
[06:08] <Kyral> ...its the dead of the night (for me at least) and no one is really flaming me... I think I'm safe
[06:08] <Fujitsu> And all Ubuntu things should be following the CoC... So even #ubuntuforums shouldn't contain such things.
[06:08] <imbrandon> Fujitsu, that was my point ;)
[06:08] <ajmitch> no matter what time of night
[06:09] <Kyral> meh
[06:10] <Laser_away> hi Kyral
[06:10] <Laser_away> ;-)
[06:10] <Kyral> hey LJ
[06:10] <imbrandon> anyhow onto brighter things ;) hrm .......
[06:12] <Laser_away> yeah, I gotta get to bed
[06:12] <ajmitch> lazy people
[06:12] <Laser_away> good night MOTU land
[06:12] <Laser_away> heh, I won't say anything about that
[06:12] <imbrandon> hehe ngnight Laser
[06:12] <Laser_away> congrats imbrandon
[06:12] <imbrandon> thanks
[06:13] <Laser_away> when are you coming?
[06:13] <imbrandon> not sure, sometime before the end of next month, i'll know more tomarrow
[06:13] <Laser_away> k
[06:13] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:37] <luckyone> hello all
[06:37] <luckyone> when will F-Spot be available in the repos?
[06:37] <luckyone> rephrased, when will F-Spot 0.2 be available in the repos?
[06:38] <imbrandon> looks like it is now .....
[06:38] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-cache madison f-spot
[06:38] <imbrandon>     f-spot | 0.2.0-1ubuntu1 | http://192.168.1.5 edgy/main Packages
[06:38] <imbrandon>     f-spot | 0.2.0-1ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[06:38] <luckyone> only for edgy though
[06:38] <luckyone> dang
[06:39] <luckyone> when/how long does it take to trickle down into dapper?
[06:39] <imbrandon> yea i dont know much about the internals but i'm guessing it wont be backported anytime soon as it likely would reqire a mono-cli and libs backport
[06:39] <imbrandon> and that isnt likely to happen
[06:39] <ajmitch> it'd require build dependencies to be changed at least
[06:39] <imbrandon> i can look at it though and find out for sure
[06:40] <imbrandon> ajmitch, yea
[06:40] <luckyone> hmm, the previous version is available for dapper
[06:40] <luckyone> 1.11
[06:40] <ajmitch> yes
[06:40] <imbrandon> brb , gonna grab a soda
[06:40] <luckyone> :)
[06:40] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I can say so for a reason :)
[06:42] <ajmitch> apart from that, it wouldn't be hard to provide a (proper) backport to dapper
[06:42] <luckyone> what about 0.1.12
[06:42] <ajmitch> rather than having every man & his dog having broken packages of it :)
[06:42] <luckyone> is there any doumentation on creating backports?
[06:42] <ajmitch> luckyone: hasn't been packaged, it was released at the same time as 0.2.0
[06:42] <luckyone> right
[06:43] <ajmitch> as it only had fixes, not some new things that 0.2.0 got
[06:43] <luckyone> I would love to take a project under my wing like f-spot to make it available to the Ubuntu community
[06:43] <luckyone> how do I learn how to do this
[06:45] <luckyone> how do the motu's determine what gets built first?
[06:45] <luckyone> is there a priority?
[06:45] <luckyone> built/ported
[06:45] <imbrandon> learn to packages, and become active, and afaik ajmitch is the current f-spot guru
[06:45] <luckyone> sweet
[06:45] <imbrandon> luckyone, what do you mean ?
[06:46] <imbrandon> what gets built first ?
[06:46] <luckyone> well, I assume development on everything that makes a distrobution happens pretty much all the time
[06:46] <luckyone> and you can port everythign
[06:47] <luckyone> so you probably have to say, hey - we *need* to make this available
[06:47] <luckyone> this can wait
[06:47] <imbrandon> umm kinda , its a little like that and a little not
[06:47] <luckyone> cool
[06:47] <luckyone> how do I learn to package properly
[06:47] <luckyone> I can build debs
[06:48] <luckyone> but I have hosed my system before
[06:48] <imbrandon> check out the packageing guide , hand out in here and scavage "work" that needs to be done and pick it up as you go, the more you do the more you'll get a feel for how things work
[06:48] <imbrandon> !packageguide
[06:48] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[06:48] <imbrandon> ^^ good start
[06:48] <luckyone> sweet
[06:49] <imbrandon> i havent read it in a while but iirc http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU has some good info too
[06:49] <luckyone> I love our documentation btw
[06:50] <luckyone> the doc team does excellent work
[06:50] <imbrandon> yup they do , special as hard worked as they are and 99% volenteers ;)
[06:50] <imbrandon> +y
[06:50] <luckyone> yeah
[06:51] <imbrandon> i mean /ANY/ area of the distro has its rough edges but those guys do fantastic for the most part
[06:51] <luckyone> everything I have read works and looks great
[06:52] <luckyone> it is much easier to read than man pages
[06:52] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:52] <luckyone> there is something about monotype that turns peopel off
[06:52] <luckyone> sorry - i am learning to type again with my new wedding ring
[06:52] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:53] <imbrandon> newly wed, dont get sucked into the time consuming {k,x,ed}ubuntu .... hehe ask LaserJock, "he should /divorce/ his computer"
[06:54] <imbrandon> lol just teasin
[06:55] <luckyone> hehe
[06:56] <luckyone> I am ditching my wow habbit
[06:56] <luckyone> ;)
[06:56] <luckyone> and I bought her some Ubuntu gear
[08:13] <Fujitsu> Hm. LyX is currently uninstallable due to a dependency on xdg-utils, which was built fine 5 days ago, but the binary never appeared. Any idea why it's not appeared?
[08:14] <Fujitsu> Ah. It's still sitting in NEW. How silly.
[08:28] <Hobbsee> hey all
[08:29] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: you back from work already?
[08:29] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: had to go to uni first
[08:29] <Burgundavia> ah
[08:29] <Hobbsee> work in 2 hours
[08:43] <crimsun> wow, a sponsor. backlog
[08:43] <crimsun> s/\.//
[08:44] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hmmm?  what, we need to do more sponsorships?
[08:45] <crimsun> yeah, I'm working through them
[08:45] <crimsun> this work thing is getting in the way of ubuntu
[08:45] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:46] <Hobbsee> crimsun: which sponsors are these, sorry?
[08:46] <Hobbsee> you can always leave them for a while, imbrandon will do them
[08:46] <crimsun> ones to which ubuntu-*-sponsors are subbed
[08:47] <Hobbsee> yeah
[08:47] <Hobbsee> well, leave some of them - you dont have to do them all
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Wow. 23 to go...
[08:48] <Hobbsee> crimsun: you really need to get the sound stuff in as much working configuration as possible.
[08:48] <Hobbsee> we can probably handle the rest
[08:48] <crimsun> no, but stuff queued in my inbox makes me HATE life.
[08:48] <crimsun> eh, what sound stuff now?
[08:48] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:48] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i thought you were in charge of sound stuff, in general
[08:48] <Hobbsee> i dont know of particular bugs that are a mustfix
[08:48] <crimsun> not in charge of, but I might be the most visible
[08:49] <Hobbsee> true
[08:51] <AnAnt> when does the approved MOTU packages get uploaded to the repos ?
[08:51] <Hobbsee> AnAnt: the ones on REVU or what?
[08:52] <AnAnt> yeah
[08:52] <AnAnt> the ones in REVU
[08:52] <Hobbsee> as long as someone remembers to upload them, they go and sit in NEW until they get processed.
[08:52] <Hobbsee> which can be anywhere from an hour or two to weeks
[08:53] <AnAnt> processed = ?
[08:54] <Fujitsu> Until one of the archive admins actually uploads them.
[08:54] <crimsun> Fujitsu: sorry about the delay, I'm working through the queue
[08:54] <AnAnt> oh ok
[08:54] <Fujitsu> Delay? Delay to what?
[08:55] <crimsun> the u*-sponsors processing delay
[08:55] <Fujitsu> No need to apologise. There are more important things to do than that. It shouldn't be top priority :)
[08:55] <AnAnt> ok, I need help in packaging: what is the copyright year ?
[08:55] <crimsun> (clearing the queue being important due to the proximity to feature freeze)
[08:56] <AnAnt> is there a way to mention patches in the changelog ?
[08:56] <Fujitsu> AnAnt, the year(s) of copyright mentioned in COPYING, or so.
[08:56] <Fujitsu> AnAnt, just mention that they have been added.
[08:56] <Fujitsu> crimsun, 17 days is a while...
[08:56] <Fujitsu> But I should get on with dealing with the rest of those merges...
[08:57] <Fujitsu> What's the correct use of the motureviewers team?
[08:57] <crimsun> Fujitsu: spoken truly like someone fresh to the release cycle (no offense meant, of course, but 17 days is _crunch time_)
[08:57] <Fujitsu> I guess. But it's not tooo bad.
[08:58] <crimsun> well, no, it's not like my vlc uploads up to the last minute prior to archive freeze for breezy, no...
[08:58] <Fujitsu> Oh dear.
[08:58] <Fujitsu> There was an ubiquity upload 3 or 4 minutes before FF :)
[08:58] <AnAnt> Fujitsu: I got this in a review "please name the patches, so they are grepable"
[08:58] <AnAnt> what is meant by that ?
[08:58] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, taking a what?
[08:59] <Fujitsu> AnAnt, did you give the packages descriptive names?
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: taking a sponsorship request
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Hm.
[08:59] <AnAnt> Fujitsu: I got 2 patches 01_descript.dpatch & 02_makefiles.dpatch
[08:59] <Burgundavia> Fujitsu: there is that moodle fix
[08:59] <Fujitsu> AnAnt, you need to say something like:
[09:00] <Fujitsu>  * Added 01_descript.dpatch, to [insert what change that patch makes here] .
[09:00] <Fujitsu> Burgundavia, what about it?
[09:00] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[09:00] <Burgundavia> Fujitsu: sponsorship requiset stuff
[09:01] <Fujitsu> I think that should have probably gone to ubuntu-universe-sponsors, actually.
[09:02] <AnAnt> what is the correct FSF address ?
[09:02] <AnAnt> where can I find it ?
[09:02] <crimsun> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
[09:03] <AnAnt> regarding the copyright year
[09:03] <AnAnt> the author seems to have just copied the COPYING file as is without changing it
[09:03] <AnAnt> and there are many years there
[09:04] <AnAnt> Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation <= is that it ?
[09:04] <Fujitsu> Are people who have already done merges for Edgy likely to update those merges? There are 154 of them...
[09:04] <crimsun> then you need to do the legwork and insert the relevant active years.
[09:04] <AnAnt> what is relevant active years ?
[09:04] <crimsun> Fujitsu: "maybe".
[09:04] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: probably not
[09:04] <Hobbsee> yeah, maybe
[09:04] <crimsun> AnAnt: the year(s) in which the author(s) wrote the program
[09:05] <AnAnt> crimsun: how can I know that ?
[09:05] <crimsun> Fujitsu: if it's any indication, you can usually count on one hand the number of truly active MOTU
[09:05] <Fujitsu> Yeah, I've noticed that not too many are particularly active.
[09:05] <Fujitsu> Maybe you need some more :P
[09:05] <crimsun> "real life".
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Real life. What a silly concept.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> crimsun: heh.
[09:06] <AnAnt> Fujitsu: I don't understand your question
[09:06] <AnAnt> what merges ?
[09:06] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: feel free to step up :)
[09:06] <crimsun> AnAnt: read the cvs changelog(s)
[09:07] <imbrandon> crimsun, i've been trying to help but the *-universe ones are mostly sync's that are left ( 22 of them ) waiting on archive
[09:07] <imbrandon> brb
[09:07] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, I don't think I'd succeed, and being embarrassed in front of the TB is not high on my agenda at the moment.
[09:07] <AnAnt> crimsun: no dates in changelogs, no CVS !
[09:07] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: well, yeah, but you can still do an awful lot of merges and get them sponsored
[09:07] <Fujitsu> AnAnt, you'll have to ask upstream, then.
[09:08] <AnAnt> Fujitsu: doh, he doesn't answer my emails
[09:08] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, true. I've done about 50 merges/syncs so far, not much in the scheme of things, with over 1000 packages with changes...
[09:08] <crimsun> Fujitsu: every single package counts.
[09:08] <imbrandon> Fujitsu, yea it adds up fast
[09:08] <imbrandon> every little bit helps
[09:09] <Fujitsu> I suppose so.
[09:09] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, can I please borrow your stick of DOOM for use on my parents?
[09:10] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: hehe
[09:10] <Hobbsee> you can try
[09:10] <Fujitsu> I'm now stuck on 28.8kbps until the end of the month, because I've exceeded my download limit.
[09:10] <Fujitsu> 1GB.
[09:10] <Hobbsee> ouch
[09:10] <Hobbsee> *ouch*
[09:10] <Hobbsee> you really need to get a higher limit
[09:11] <Fujitsu> I do.
[09:11] <crimsun> interestingly enough, I'm on 28.8 kbps dialup.
[09:11] <Fujitsu> $15 extra will get 12GB on peak, 24GB off peak.
[09:11] <Fujitsu> But Nooooo.
[09:11] <imbrandon> crimsun, wow
[09:11] <Fujitsu> crimsun, why?
[09:11] <crimsun> out of range for dsl & cable
[09:11] <Fujitsu> I'd be a lot more functional if I could download things feasibly :(
[09:12] <Fujitsu> crimsun, how do you survive?
[09:12] <crimsun> I use well-connected shells.
[09:12] <Fujitsu> Although I've learnt to survive on 28.8kbps for two thirds of the time.
[09:12] <imbrandon> Fujitsu, there /was/ life before the internet you know ;)
[09:12] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hehe, yeah.
[09:13] <imbrandon> yea a shell account for irc / building is a must on 28.8k i would think'
[09:13] <Fujitsu> imbrandon, I doubt it.
[09:13] <imbrandon> heya dholbach
[09:13] <Fujitsu> IRC uses up most of my bandwidth.
[09:13] <Fujitsu> And I can sometimes download a 200 or so kilobyte file without something dieing.
[09:13] <Hobbsee> hey dholbach
[09:13] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:14] <dholbach> good morning
[09:14] <dholbach> hey imbrandon, hey Hobbsee
[09:14] <Hobbsee> argh!  bashisms.  rottten things.
[09:14] <Fujitsu> Afternoon, dholbach.
[09:14] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, yup.
[09:14] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee, I love 'em.
[09:14] <Fujitsu> Which packages?
[09:14] <dholbach> hiya Fujitsu
[09:15] <crimsun> Fujitsu: you may as well just strip the php4 stuff from the Dependencies, since it's all in universe, and the point is to not drag in extra universe stuff
[09:15] <crimsun> Fujitsu: (RE: 59472)
[09:15] <Fujitsu> crimsun, OK. I'll do so.
[09:15] <crimsun> thanks.
[09:17] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: supertux
[09:17] <Fujitsu> Ah. A big package.
[09:17] <Fujitsu> Silly graphics.
[09:17] <Fujitsu> Too big.
[09:18] <Hobbsee> not that big :P
[09:18] <Fujitsu> It'd be nice if there was a `download size' column on MoM :P
[09:18] <AnAnt> where do I put copyright year ?
[09:18] <Fujitsu> SuperTux has graphics, and is bigging that a few hundred KiB, so is big.
[09:18] <Fujitsu> *bigger than
[09:18] <AnAnt> I seen example copyright files, and I can't see it anywhere
[09:18] <Fujitsu> I can't type in this cold :(
[09:19] <thom> Fujitsu: it's dropped below 20? :P
[09:19] <AnAnt> k, found it
[09:19] <Fujitsu> It hasn't reached above 20 for more than 2 days in a couple of months :P
[09:21] <Hobbsee> right.  one uploaded.
[09:21] <crimsun> rockin'
[09:22] <Hobbsee> crimsun: are you taking care of quotlibet stuff?
[09:23] <crimsun> I keep an eye out, sure. I'm not going to ask for 0.23.1 to be synced, because there are some important fixes post-0.23.1.
[09:23] <Hobbsee> gotcha
[09:23] <Hobbsee> mlind has already requested it
[09:24] <Fujitsu> crimsun, patch is uploading...
[09:24] <Fujitsu> Done.
[09:25] <Fujitsu> What a waste of cable internet this is.
[09:25] <Hobbsee> lol
[09:26] <Fujitsu> It is!
[09:26] <Fujitsu> Got better speeds when we were on dial-up, and that was much cheaper too.
[09:26] <Hobbsee> yay. that built.
[09:26] <Fujitsu> Stupid parents :(
[09:27] <Fujitsu> Merging my parents? :P
[09:28] <Fujitsu> Now, if I can convince my parents to spend that extra $15 a month within the next few days, I'll be able to merge 24/7 from next week, and remove the nasty numbers of merges that are remaining...
[09:35] <Fujitsu> Do we really have to request syncs for packages without Ubuntu changes?
[09:35] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: since the autosyncer got turned off, yes.
[09:35] <Fujitsu> That's annoying...
[09:35] <AnAnt> anyone here available to review a package ?
[09:39] <Fujitsu> Thankyou Hobbsee :)
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: no problems
[09:40] <Hobbsee> crimsun: in vi, how do i get it to delete from where the current cursor is, to the top of the file?
[09:40] <Hobbsee> i know down is dG
[09:40] <Fujitsu> d1G
[09:40] <Fujitsu> I think that should do.
[09:40] <Fujitsu> Because G will go the last line, and 1G will go to line 1.
[09:41] <Hobbsee> ahh...that's it, thanks
[09:41] <Fujitsu> No problem.
[09:41] <AnAnt> dgg ?
[09:41] <crimsun> yes, d1G
[09:41] <Fujitsu> dgg also works.
[09:42] <AnAnt> cool !
[09:42] <crimsun> perhaps in vim
[09:42] <Fujitsu> Probably.
[09:42] <crimsun> it definitely doesn't work in nvi.
[09:43] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: ahhh...
[09:43] <thom> yeah, gg is a vim thing
[09:43] <AnAnt> k
[09:45] <AnAnt> may someone review this: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3086
[09:46] <AnAnt> I need to discuss something, that package has an executable with setuid permission, which makes lintian & linda complain
[09:46] <AnAnt> yet it needs to +s to work
[09:46] <AnAnt> so any thoughts about this ?
[09:53] <AnAnt> ?
[10:02] <Fujitsu> I really like the new merge workflow.
[10:05] (crimsun/#ubuntu-motu) I always check the actual bug report before I do any work. For instance, with all these queued and several of us touching the queue simultaneously, I want the race window as small as possible.
[10:05] (Hobbsee/#ubuntu-motu) true
[10:06] (crimsun/#ubuntu-motu) moins daniel
[10:06] (StevenK/#ubuntu-motu) crimsun: Hell, you're like a rocket-powered chipmunk when it comes to dealing with those bugs.
[10:07] <crimsun> that makes geser and Fujitsu the crazy ones ;)
[10:07] <Fujitsu> Why?
[10:07] <crimsun> you're filing them
[10:08] <Fujitsu> There must surely be more.
[10:08] <crimsun> (crazy there should be interpreted for speed, not mental state)
[10:08] <Fujitsu> I hope so :P
[10:20] <Fujitsu> How bad is it?
[10:20] <Mithrandir> I wouldn't think it'd be bad at all, really.
[10:21] <Fujitsu> It sounds like it'd be very useful.
[10:21] <Mithrandir> yup
[10:25] <AnAnt> what is nspluginwrapper ?
[10:25] <Mithrandir> AnAnt: http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:nspluginwrapper
[10:26] <AnAnt> Mithrandir: are you gauvainpocentek@yahoo.fr ?
[10:26] <Fujitsu> That's Gloubiboulga :)
[10:26] <Mithrandir> AnAnt: not last time I checked, no.  My French is non-existent.
[10:27] <AnAnt> Fujitsu: ok, thanks
[10:31] <AnAnt> Mithrandir: that hasn't been packaged before, right ?
[10:33] <Mithrandir> AnAnt: not that I know of, no.
[10:57] <AnAnt> Mithrandir: is that a library or a single binary ?
[10:57] <Mithrandir> AnAnt: for dh-make?  library, probably.
[10:59] <AnAnt> I tried making a library before & failed
[10:59] <AnAnt> Fujitsu: are you going to work on it ?
[10:59] <Fujitsu> AnAnt, probably not.
[11:00] <Fujitsu> I've got no non-i386 machine around, and I'm in no position to download much.,
[11:00] <AnAnt> what the non-i386 macine for ?
[11:03] <Fujitsu> I believe the point of nspluginwrapper is to allow use of i386 plugins on non-i386 architectures.
[11:04] <AnAnt> oh
[11:05] <Mithrandir> it is.
[11:10] <AnAnt> I don't have non-i386 machine either
[11:16] <crimsun> TheMuso: / Fujitsu: did you verify that the previous Ubuntu delta for soundconverter (namely adding python-all [adding python2.5] ) is valid?
[11:18] <Fujitsu> It works, and I presume it's OK, because TheMuso did it first.
[11:19] <crimsun> works with python2.4 and python2.5?
[11:19] <slomo_> crimsun: any news on my ymfpci bug? ;)
[11:20] <Fujitsu> I haven't tested python2.5... But I'll check it.
[11:22] <crimsun> slomo_: I've been away from alsa for a bit, will check this week
[11:23] <Fujitsu> soundconverter dies with python2.5, unable to find pygtk...
[11:24] <crimsun> uh huh. :)
[11:25] <Fujitsu> I don't see how that change could have ever been valid, as there's no pyGTK for 2.5...
[11:27] <Fujitsu> Thanks for those, crimsun :)
[11:27] <crimsun> the python2.5 part should be fixed when pygtk is rebuilt
[11:30] <Fujitsu> I don't see why it needed python-all, python (>= 2.3) should have been fine... I should have thought about this before I did that merge >_<
[12:38] <ajmitch> evening
[12:38] <Fujitsu> Hi, ajmitch.
[12:56] <Fujitsu> Is anybody available to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3084
[12:56] <Fujitsu> *?
[01:50] <Fujitsu> crimsun: ping.
[02:47] <xerxas> Hi
[02:47] <xerxas> is the complete telepathy suit packaged?
[02:47] <xerxas> suite
[02:47] <xerxas> I think there's only cohoba and telepathy-python
[02:47] <xerxas> I don't see Telepathy-SIP , nor -MSN , nor -IRC (nor -Wilde )
[02:52] <xopher> Hi. How can I automate building of packages, when what I want to do is download the debianized source from a site when its updated, then build it with pbuilder, and after that upload them to my repository.. Any suggestions?
[02:53] <shawarma> xopher: wget, pbuilder, wput, trigger-repo-update-script?
[02:54] <xopher> Ill look into that, thanks
[03:00] <xerxas> slomo,  do you know the state of telepathy stuff in edgy ?
[03:00] <xerxas> (Hi slomo )
[03:00] <slomo> xerxas: better ask dholbach :)
[03:00] <xerxas> slomo,  done,  but he is away
[03:04] <elmargol> is telepathy a bitlbee clone?
[03:05] <slomo> elkbuntu: telepathy.freedesktop.org
[03:05] <slomo> xerxas: well, some parts are already there, some not... but things are progressing :)
[03:05] <xerxas> slomo,  I saw that
[03:05] <xerxas> I installed gablled this week end
[03:06] <xerxas> but don't see tapioca, neither telepathy-msn  ....
[03:06] <xerxas> slomo,  can I help for that ?
[03:06] <xerxas> (at least, try to help )
[03:06] <slomo> xerxas: sure... but better talk to dholbach, i'll get into this next week and try to do all the missing parts ;)
[03:06] <xerxas> slomo,  not too fast please !
[03:07] <xerxas> I'm getting tired of not being able to contribute
[03:07] <xerxas> :)
[03:08] <xerxas> slomo,  or can you direct me to easy things to do , that doesn't necesarly interest me
[03:08] <xerxas> but I can help with
[03:08] <xerxas> slomo, I have an edgy running !
[03:08] <slomo> xerxas: sorry, i have to reboot now and fix some things... seems like my filesystem exploded :(
[03:09] <xerxas> slomo,  np
[03:09] <xerxas> just, remember, I don't have plenty of time, but I have some spare time
[03:09] <xerxas> and I want to help , contribute, learn ...
[03:09] <xerxas> so get back to me, or I'll get back to you ! :)
[03:09] <slomo> xerxas: telepathy would be a nice start i guess
[03:09] <xerxas> ok
[03:09] <xerxas> python ...
[03:09] <xerxas> cool stuff
[03:09] <xerxas> modern
[03:09] <slomo> *shrug*
[03:10] <slomo> anyway... fixing filesystem now :) brb
[03:31] <xopher> What would you recommend using for creating / maintaining a repository?
[03:32] <thom> apt-ftparchive or mini-dinstall
[03:32] <StevenK> mini-dinstall seems to get confused incredibly easily in my experience.
[03:35] <xopher> Failed to fetch: 302 found - What does that mean really? And how can I get rid of it? My repo works for me now but not for anyone else :)
[03:36] <StevenK> 302 Found is a redirect
[03:36] <StevenK> Apt doesn't like redirects
[03:36] <xopher> So how do I get rid of it..
[03:40] <xopher> What does it mean? It's trying to redirect you or?
[03:45] <bddebian> Heya gang
[04:31] <xopher> Anyone one amd64 here that would like to confirm if my repository works? [ deb http://koti.mbnet.fi/xopher/ dapper main-amd64 ] 
[04:32] <xopher> s/one/on
[04:39] <trappist> xopher: apt-get update works.  is there something you'd like me to install from it?
[04:40] <xopher> trappist, so that means the 302 error is gone? :) If you dont have the latest ones already you can try the compiz packages
[04:41] <trappist> compiz-core installs fine
[04:41] <xopher> great
[05:15] <welshbyte> hello
[05:16] <xerxas> Is there a motu arround here ?
[05:16] <xerxas> I have a problem creating a package with debhelper
[05:17] <xerxas> in debian/rules section install I see that :
[05:17] <xerxas> # Add here commands to install the package into debian/icmptx.
[05:17] <xerxas> but don't know what to add
[05:18] <bddebian> Heya welshbyte
[05:18] <welshbyte> hey bddebian
[05:18] <xerxas_> did you get my last message before It disconnected?
[05:18] <xerxas_> ("but I don't know what to add" )
[05:18] <bddebian> xerxas_: $(MAKE) install ?
[05:19] <xerxas_> bddebian,  it's alredy in
[05:19] <bddebian> There ya go
[05:19] <xerxas_> I have an error building the package with pbuilder
[05:19] <xerxas_> seems to be on dh_installdirs
[05:19] <xerxas_> I didn't specify where to install the program
[05:19] <bddebian> Do you have a icpmtx.dirs or dirs file in debian/ ?
[05:20] <xerxas_> and the Makefile doesn't have an install rule (the upstream makefile )
[05:20] <xerxas_> yes
[05:20] <xerxas_> I have a dirs file
[05:20] <bddebian> Oh. There's no make install target?
[05:20] <xerxas_> no
[05:20] <xerxas_> should I write one ?
[05:20] <xerxas_> xerxas@dready:~/contrib/icmptx/debhelper/icmptx-0.01/debian$ cat dirs
[05:20] <xerxas_> usr/bin
[05:20] <xerxas_> usr/sbin
[05:21] <xerxas_> bddebian,  I should add an install rule in the upstream Makefile  ?
[05:21] <xerxas_> then re-run debuild -S ?
[05:21] <xerxas_> right ?
[05:21] <bddebian> xerxas_: How does upstream tell you to install it?
[05:21] <xerxas_> what does my install rule should look like ?
[05:22] <xerxas_> upstream seems to use ./
[05:22] <xerxas_> to run programs
[05:23] <xerxas_> bddebian, Ok , I think I found the solution
[05:23] <xerxas_> I'm building icmptx, ip over icmp tunnel
[05:23] <xerxas_> there's a package called nstx, ip over dns tunnel
[05:23] <xerxas_> In debian/rules of nstx I see that:         # Add here commands to install the package into debian/nstx.
[05:23] <xerxas_>         install nstxd -D $(CURDIR)/debian/nstx/usr/sbin/nstxd
[05:23] <xerxas_>         install nstxcd -D $(CURDIR)/debian/nstx/usr/sbin/nstxcd
[05:24] <xerxas_> so I should do the same with icmptx probably
[05:24] <xerxas_> rifht ?
[05:24] <xerxas_>  right ?
[05:25] <bddebian> xerxas_: You can do that, yes
[05:25] <xerxas_> the re-run debuild -S ?
[05:26] <bddebian> add -sa if you plan on uploading to REVU
[05:30] <xerxas_> what is -sa ?
[05:30] <xerxas_> do I have right upload on revu ?
[05:30] <xerxas_> or should I be granted for it ?
[05:33] <welshbyte> xerxas_: you just need to join the ubuntu-universe-contributors launchpad team to upload to REVU
[05:33] <xerxas_> how do I join it ?
[05:33] <welshbyte> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+join
[05:34] <welshbyte> read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU for more information
[05:35] <xerxas_> ok
[05:35] <xerxas_> thanks
[05:35] <xerxas_> "GPGKey has been added to the REVU keyring"
[05:35] <xerxas_> if it's on launchpad, it's in revu ?
[05:36] <welshbyte> essentially, yes
[05:36] <welshbyte> when you join that team
[05:37] <xerxas_> ok
[05:37] <xerxas_> need to go home
[05:37] <xerxas_> will continue at home
[05:37] <xerxas_> but the package have been built
[05:37] <xerxas_> just need to check it work on my edgy system
[05:37] <xerxas_> thanks
[05:37] <xerxas_> bye
[05:56] <FunnyLookinHat> Myth TV .20 released.   :)
[06:24] <phanatic> good afternoon
[06:35] <Adri2000> revu day is always friday ?
[08:58] <dholbach> good night
[09:00] <bddebian> Gnight dholbach
[09:19] <Sp4rKy> hi guiys
[09:19] <Sp4rKy> -i
[09:19] <LaserJock> hi
[09:19] <Sp4rKy> does anyone knows a good help for using debconf for asked end-user about something ?
[09:19] <bddebian> Heya Sp4rKy, LaserJock
[09:19] <Sp4rKy> LaserJock: o/
[09:19] <Sp4rKy> hi bddebian :)
[09:20] <LaserJock> Sp4rKy: there is a reference
[09:20] <LaserJock> hmm, I'll have to dig it up
[09:21] <Sp4rKy> ,k
[09:22] <Sp4rKy> do you have a link ?
[09:22] <LaserJock> Sp4rKy: http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html I think
[09:25] <Sp4rKy> perfect :)
[09:25] <Sp4rKy> thx
[09:46] <matid> Hi. Can any MOTU reviewer take a look at bug 53906
[09:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 53906 in video-dvdrip "dvdrip should depends on libgdk-pixbuf-perl" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/53906
[09:46] <matid> ?
[09:46] <matid> There is a quick fix, debdiff attached.
[09:47] <matid> The change is needed, because one of the dependencies has been renamed
[10:14] <stevenB> ppracer questions?
[10:18] <stevenB> I have a gimp pallete I'd like to contribute to ppracer-gimp-dev.  Is this the right place to discuss that?
[10:36] <Plug> morning REVUers :)
[10:39] <stevenB> hello!
[10:39] <Plug> hi there
[10:40] <superm1> Hi guys, I was wondering if there is already someone working on getting some packages for mythtv-0.20 into REVU for Edgy.  I have started to work on a packaging that was updated for 0.20, but will hatl work if there is already someone taking over this task
[10:41] <superm1> *halt
[10:41] <Plug> hmm
[10:42] <Plug> I saw a launchpad job about that yesterday
[10:42] <Plug> from some time ago, however
[10:42] <Plug> are you one of the people who regularly releases mythtv-svn debs?
[10:42] <superm1> I had made two releases
[10:42] <superm1> and then stopped because I couldn't keep up with work and school
[10:43] <superm1> but I'd like to at least get another release up to 0.20 out
[10:44] <superm1> I was hoping that one of us who regularly try to get debs out could actually get something into REVU though in hopes of making it into edgy soon enough
[10:44] <superm1> even if its not me
[10:46] <crimsun> superm1: please coordinate w/ FunnyLookinHat, bddebian, and the MOTUMedia team
[10:46] <bddebian> superm1: We can wait for Debian Multimedia to do it :-)
[10:47] <superm1> okay, have you heard from the group lately?  I haven't kept up with their releases
[10:47] <superm1> are they at least getting started, or possibly need a hand in it?
[10:47] <bddebian> Dunno about .20.  I can't even get .19 synced from them :-(
[10:48] <crimsun> why not?
[10:48] <superm1> sigh...
[10:48] <bddebian> crimsun: I guess the archive admins don't have the time or are afraid of license issues or some such
[10:49] <superm1> is the current maintainer assigned to it, mdz on debian multimedia, or were you planning on switching the maintainer to be the debian multimedia team?
[10:50] <crimsun> bddebian: eh, it's already in multiverse, so I don't _think_ that's the culprit [but I could be wrong] .
[10:50] <Plug> mdz hasn't been involved for some time
[10:50] <Plug> debian-multimedia is Christian Marrilat
[10:50] <superm1> that's what I was thinking
[10:50] <crimsun> your sync request (bug 56536) doesn't appear to adhere to the new sync guidelines.
[10:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56536 in mythtv "[debian-multimedia]  mythtv 0.19-0.10" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/56536
[10:51] <crimsun> (e.g., no indication whether Ubuntu changes can be discarded, no upstream changelog entries, etc.)
[10:53] <Plug> bug 58212 was the one I saw
[10:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58212 in mythtv "Build (and include) mythtv-0.20 for Edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58212
[10:54] <Plug> and you've seen that already superm1
[10:54] <superm1> Yea I was one of the last posts on there, but I didn't read the entire commenting
[10:54] <bddebian> crimsun: .19 is in multiverse?
[10:54] <crimsun> mythtv | 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources
[10:55] <crimsun> I would reject 56536
[10:55] <superm1> crimsun, at this point, who needs to confirm whether ubuntu changes can be discarded and such to sync from debian-multimedia then?
[10:55] <crimsun> then instead of spewing trash all over 58212, please actually make it a valid sync request.
[10:56] <crimsun> superm1: anyone can testify that a straight import of the source package builds, installs/upgrades/removes, and functions correctly, but a MOTU has to ACK it.
[10:58] <superm1> so at this point, what is the best way to go about this?  Talk to Merrilat, and help him get 0.20 sources ready?  And then figure out what can be stripped from ubuntu patchset, and then talk to a MOTU?
[10:59] <crimsun> yes, and prior to asking for an ACK please verify that said source package builds, installs/upgrades/removes, and functions correctly.
[10:59] <superm1> On edgy or dapper?
[10:59] <superm1> at the point
[10:59] <crimsun> you'll need a pbuilder/sbuild log, a debdiff, and a screenshot of the correctly functioning 0.20
[10:59] <crimsun> not dapper at all unless you want it backported.
[11:00] <superm1> Well I'd  like to be able to, but I think that's a better thought for later
[11:00] <crimsun> right, focusing on edgy will be more productive
[11:01] <superm1> I'll try to get in contact with Christian then
[11:01] <superm1> thanks crimsun
[11:01] <crimsun> np
[11:03] <stevenB> I have a gimp pallette I'd like to contribute to ppracer.  How do I go about doing that?
[11:03] <crimsun> speak w/ ppracer upstream proper
[11:03] <crimsun> (that way all distros & bsds benefit)
[11:03] <stevenB> you mean talk to the debian or ppracer folks?
[11:04] <crimsun> upstream upstream (the latter)
[11:05] <stevenB> what about the planetpenguin-racer-extras package?  The upstream people seem to have disappeared.
[11:06] <crimsun> the upstream proper for ppracer?
[11:06] <stevenB> the hompage: http://tuxracer.fubaby.com/courses.php hasn't been updated for years
[11:07] <stevenB> the extras package is seperate from ppracer
[11:07] <crimsun> if you want it in ppracer proper, talk with ppracer upstream proper
[11:09] <stevenB> sorry. I wasn't clear.  I have two seperate suggestions, one for ppracer proper, and one for ppracer-extras
[11:10] <crimsun> I'm not sure what you're asking regarding planetpenguin-racer-extras
[11:11] <stevenB> several courses in planetpenguin-racer-extras are broken.
[11:11] <crimsun> if they can be fixed, we can apply said fixes locally and push back upstream
[11:12] <stevenB> ok.  how do I help with that?
[11:13] <crimsun> do you have fixes for said brokenness?
[11:13] <stevenB> yes
[11:13] <crimsun> then generate a debdiff against the current edgy source package and attach it to a bug filed against the source package.
[11:14] <stevenB> ok.  Thanks for your help and patience
[11:15] <crimsun> np
[11:15] <bddebian> crimsun: How come you never have any time for me? :'-(
[11:15] <bddebian> :-)
[11:16] <crimsun> I made time yesterday; you went to sleep.
[11:17] <bddebian> Heh, good out :)
[11:18] <crimsun> (fwiw I did stay up to process ubuntu-universe-sponsors)
[11:18] <bddebian> Good man
[11:18] <crimsun> in any case, I'll try to be around this evening
[11:19] <bddebian> No worries, apparently pygi has no patience for me anymore :-)
[11:23] <bddebian> Later folks
[11:24] <crimsun> bye
[11:26] <superm1> Crimsun, just spoke with Christian.  He says that that he has begun work on packaging 0.20 packages already, and didn't need help/ will release when ready.  Would it still be a good idea for me to test his 0.19 packages in and edgy pbuilder to get those into edgy if the 0.20 doesn't make it in time you think?
[11:27] <crimsun> no, it makes no sense to work on outdated packages.
[11:27] <crimsun> work-> "try getting into multiverse"
[11:28] <superm1> ah I see.
[11:29] <superm1> Ok, I'll watch out for when he's finished and throw them into an edgy pbuilder once I see the new versions then.  Speak with ya then.