[12:00] <anto9us> trogdoor: I think it's just suspend
[12:01] <jazzrocker> e.g. i'm compiling some software and instead of running ./configure over and over again and waiting till it craps out on whatever deps I don't have
[12:01] <_mariux> theres also a echo "ram" > /proc/something
[12:01] <jazzrocker> i'd like to just get a list of deps and go install them
[12:01] <jazzrocker> there are no install docs :(
[12:01] <trogdoor> anto9us: Ok, for some reason there is no man page for suspend.
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> CalJohn: idk I would have thought wine would just give you a fresh set of new problems to deal with
[12:02] <CalJohn> erider: of course the best method is to ditch flash, and java altother
[12:02] <trogdoor> anto9us: and I just ran it and it isn't doing anything or giving any output.
[12:02] <kads> I cannot access my ubuntu HP PSC-1210 printer from windows xp through samba
[12:02] <CalJohn> TheGateKeeper: yeah, very possible.  i would've thought firefox would work reasonably well though, and flash is simply an add-in.  plus it's flash9.  YMMV
[12:02] <erider> CalJohn: but how would I play the videos on line without them?
[12:03] <bruenig> Caljohn, I thought the first one was the same as the forum entry of the same name, as they tend to do that. The forum entry has the script http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=java+flash+32
[12:03] <CalJohn> erider: don't play them
[12:03] <AlReece45> kads: can your windows xp computer ping your ubuntu computer?
[12:03] <kads> yup
[12:03] <anto9us> trogdoor: acpi can be awkward to set up, it's not always detected properly, it's a set of scripts that you may have to tweak, I'm just looking for a link to help you
[12:03] <kads> it is able to access my shared folder
[12:03] <Rico> is there a nautilus equivalent for 'extract each archive to seperate folder' ?
[12:03] <kads> ALReece45: through samba
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> CalJohn: I'll give you the flash9 issue :-)
[12:04] <trogdoor> anto9us: thank you, can I kill the suspend proccess? It isn't doing anything.
[12:04] <AlReece45> kads: can the xp computer see the printer share on the computer?
[12:04] <kads> ALReece45: yup
[12:05] <anto9us> trogdoor: yes, it can be restarted
[12:05] <AlReece45> kads: does the xp computer have the correct drivers for the printer?
[12:05] <CalJohn> erider: google video lets you download videos in mpeg4 format, and then you don't have to support non-free software
[12:05] <Paradoxx> How do i edit my grub setup so it will add my windows xp entry?
[12:05] <kads> ALReece45: yup
[12:05] <CalJohn> erider: and flash was always annoying, admit it :p
[12:05] <anto9us> trogdoor: hope this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowto
[12:06] <AlReece45> kads: does the xp computer give a specific error when trying to print?
[12:06] <jazzrocker> is there a way to install RPMs in Ubuntu?
[12:06] <erider> CalJohn: agreed that flash is annoying but I can't see some web content
[12:06] <livingdaylight> !seen Flannel
[12:06] <ubotu> Flannel is on IRC right now!
[12:06] <nozorro> jazzrocker: use alien (with care)
[12:06] <kads> ALReece45: I also when to http://localhost:631/admin to add the usernmae the xp box will access my ubuntu but it ask me for a password
[12:06] <kads> ALReece45: cannot acces
[12:06] <trogdoor> anto9us, $ killall suspend
[12:06] <trogdoor> suspend: no process killed
[12:06] <kads> ALReece45: cannot access
[12:06] <livingdaylight> Flannel: just to let you know that SDG did the job
[12:06] <CalJohn> erider: the flash web content is normally idiotic myspace crap.  YMMV
[12:06] <kads> ALReece45: and I tried everything but won't work for the password on cups admin
[12:07] <trogdoor> anto9us: and ctrl+C isn't stopping it in the terminal either.
[12:07] <anto9us> trogdoor: yeah, it's a bash script, you may need to kill it by process number, if you need to, I suggest going through that howto
[12:07] <CalJohn> jazzrocker: man alien
[12:07] <thephunkizm> when i use the mkdir command in Ubuntu 6.06 amd64, it returns 'permission denied'.  how do i gain permission?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Flannel: i don't know why there are all these complicated ways of restoring Grub if booting sdg does it in 1,2,3 - quick and simple
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Flannel: ping
[12:08] <sl021> can i recover the repositories thru the ubuntu install disk?
[12:08] <trogdoor> anto9us, OK, thank you.
[12:08] <barata> I'm so pissed off by Ubuntu upgrades shit
[12:08] <DBO> barata?
[12:08] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: directories have "permissions".  you need to have permission to write to area's with retricted permissions
[12:09] <barata> now I cannot install mplayer again, some links get broken
[12:09] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: read up on chmod/chown
[12:09] <thephunkizm> ok cal, thanks.
[12:09] <schupa> i have conf. x server so i can have 1280x1024 in resulution, but now i have en-style keyboard so i cannot write swedish signs.. how do i change back without using my backup file of xorg.conf?
[12:09] <DBO> barata, are you running dapper or edgy?
[12:09] <AlReece45> kads: you setup the printer from the samba adminstratin right?
 barata, are you running dapper or edgy? --> I dont know the name ... it should be 6.0.6
[12:09] <barata> what's the name for that?
[12:09] <anto9us> sl021: in a terminal type, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:09] <DBO> barata, dapper, what error are you getting?
[12:10] <kads> ALReece45: I don't think so
 barata, dapper, what error are you getting? --> not really 'error', but headache ... because I cannot compile mplayer for instance because there is this issue with jackd version
[12:10] <anto9us> sl021: did that open an empty file or does it have something in it?
[12:10] <AlReece45> kads: you might want to try the #samba channel on that one
[12:11] <barata> the problem is, I cannot un-upgrade all those things
[12:11] <thephunkizm> CalJohn, the reason I asked was that before I was told to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava by someone in here.  The tutorial is nice, but it makes it look like i don't need to do anything but their step-by-step procedure...
[12:11] <barata> I might need to reinstall everything
[12:11] <DBO> barata, ok
[12:12] <nozorro> schupa: did you try system > Preferences > Keyboard?
[12:12] <thephunkizm> whoa
[12:12] <AlReece45> Does anyone know the names of the utilities that would log device errors such as USB or NIC?
[12:12] <anto9us> AlReece45: dmesg may show you
[12:12] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: i just recomended taking the wine approach with erider a minute ago.  i don't want to spam this channel by repeating, so just read your log :)
[12:12] <rofl0r_> schupa, edit xorg.conf, and estart X with strg-backspace
[12:12] <barata> my advice is: install 6.0.6, DO NOT upgrade immediately, then install whatever software you need, then upgrade
[12:12] <AlReece45> anto9us: dmesg doesn't have the error
[12:13] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: wait, why doesn't it look like you have anything to do?
[12:13] <barata> if you upgrade first after CD-install ... I guarantee you'll get the headache I have
[12:13] <schupa> nozorro: yes i did, no success
[12:13] <kads> ok thx
[12:13] <barata> because the upgrade brings new stuffs/versions that break the old dependencies
[12:13] <anto9us> AlReece45: maybe cat /var/log/syslog
[12:13] <schupa> rofl0r_: okey, i will give it a shot
[12:13] <cvt> how do i fix this: i opened a xchat log file and it says it can't be found?
[12:14] <rofl0r_> schupa, sry ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:14] <thephunkizm> because it's a simple 1-2-3-4 step by step tutorial.  wouldn't it mention chmod/chown if i had to do that?
[12:14] <nozorro> schupa: what is enstyle keyboard?
[12:14] <schupa> english-style
[12:14] <barata> I dont bother to look at them one by one though ... no time & also no interest ... reinstalling is always the best & fastest solution
[12:14] <AlReece45> anto9us: Give me a minute to try, I have to restart into it, since its my NIC... I'm connecting on my other comp as AlReece44
[12:14] <schupa> nozorro: english layout
[12:14] <nozorro> schupa: this isn't related to you screen resolution though
[12:15] <anto9us> AlReece44: it's a usb NIC device you have?
[12:15] <AlReece44> anto9us: no, but it stops working the instant my USB mouse stops working.
[12:15] <ShastaMaroon> My wireless chipset comes compiled into the kernel, but I can't find any instructions on how to set it up...can anyone point me to a guide?
[12:15] <erUSUL> !wifi
[12:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:15] <thephunkizm> CalJohn: btw, i'm sorry but it looks like i was a little late for the conversation with erider
[12:16] <ShastaMaroon> thanks
[12:16] <schupa> nozorro: no but when reconfigured Xorg i had to fill in something about my keyboard layout and i didn't have a clue of what i should write
[12:16] <sl021> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[12:16] <sl021> :\
[12:16] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: why doesn't it look like you have anything to do according the howto?
[12:16] <nozorro> schupa: if you're going to edit xorg.conf, copy over the old settings under the "InputDevice" Section. if it still doesn't work, go to the keyboard pref app in gnome
[12:17] <anto9us> sl021: type what I told you earlier
[12:17] <anto9us> sl021: and let me know if there's anything in that file
[12:17] <schupa> nozorro: thanks, will try.
[12:17] <thephunkizm> CalJohn: i'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  i followed the steps of the how-to up until the 'mkdir' line and got stuck..
[12:17] <sl021> wha u told meh ealier?
[12:17] <Duk1> Is anyone using unix to connect to an Imac?
[12:17] <anto9us> sl021: in a terminal type, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <CalJohn> are you root?
[12:17] <sl021> i get a text file
[12:18] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: sudo su
[12:18] <anto9us> sl021: yes, those are your repositories
[12:18] <sl021> i added them
[12:18] <Flamekebab> right, quick question for y'all - I'm trying out Edgy and I'm wondering why there appears to be a distinct lack of "gnome disk admin" utility
[12:18] <sl021> ..
[12:18] <ShastaMaroon> Does anyone know if there is a gui to set up wpa yet?
[12:18] <sl021> but nothing is there
[12:18] <thephunkizm> ahhh sweet!!
[12:18] <nozorro> Flamekebab: you might ask this on #ubuntu+1
[12:18] <anto9us> sl021: save the file and update in
[12:18] <anto9us> sl021: in synaptic
[12:18] <M0nk3Ee> hi all, i am having a problem with the directory /var/lib/dpkg/info/ a lot of my .list files needed for apt-get seem to have become corrupt, could someone please tar up *.list in that directory and send it to me?
[12:18] <rofl0r_> whats the linux equivalent to dir /s *.zip ?
[12:18] <thephunkizm> CalJohn:  thank you!  i was trying su (without sudo) and it was denying me
[12:19] <M0nk3Ee> i have tried restoring from my backup but that was no good
[12:19] <schupa> how do i access my xorg.conf_backup? ^^
[12:19] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: hehe little things make a big difference :)
[12:19] <anto9us> sl021: oh, it's empty, in which case we need to generate your sources.list
[12:19] <Duk1> I am able to ssh into my mac but I can not mount my mac home folder to the unix machine.  When I try to browse to it I can opon the server but not see annything in it
[12:19] <Subhuman> rofl0r_, "ls -s *.zip"
[12:19] <cvt> does xchat make the logs grow forever?
[12:19] <CalJohn> thephunkizm: ubuntu doesn't configure su as you would expect by default.  they all like sudo.  freaks.
[12:19] <rofl0r_> Subhuman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[12:20] <rofl0r_> oops
[12:20] <yohan> anyone know a good guide to setting up tvout on nvidia?
[12:20] <anto9us> sl021: still with me here?
[12:20] <rofl0r_> ls: *.zip: No such file or directory
[12:20] <nozorro> schupa: look whether there's anything looking like it under /etc/X11. should have a 'bck' extension. the date also helps
[12:20] <thephunkizm> CalJohn: good to know.  thanks a million =)
[12:20] <sl021> er i saved it, now wha
[12:20] <M0nk3Ee> please anyone, i really don't fancy installing all over again
[12:20] <RelientKirsh> Reading package lists... Done
[12:20] <RelientKirsh> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[12:20] <RelientKirsh> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[12:20] <anto9us> sl021: sorry, I missed the fact that you said it was empty, we need to put a list of repositories in it
[12:20] <RelientKirsh> that happens when i do sudo apt-get update
[12:21] <Subhuman> rofl0r_,  "ls -sH | grep *.zip"
[12:21] <Subhuman> that should work
[12:21] <RelientKirsh> does anyone know how to fix that error>
[12:21] <anto9us> sl021: type anto and press tab before you type to me, it will help me see your posts to the room
[12:21] <AlReece44> anto9us: what was the file that might have the log of device errors?
[12:21] <sl021> anto k
[12:22] <sl021> antoasdfasdf
[12:22] <sl021> oops
[12:22] <rofl0r_> Subhuman, not exactly, but i found a way, thx
[12:22] <anto9us> AlReece44: there are many log files you can investigate in /var/log
[12:22] <anto9us> sl021: do you still have that sources.list file open?
[12:23] <sl021> ya
[12:23] <nozorro> AlReece44: most likely /var/log/kern.log
[12:24] <sl021> anto9us: yep
[12:24] <anto9us> sl021: ok, we need to generate some contents for it, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic will do that
[12:24] <schupa> nozorro: found it, changed it.. ctrl + alt + backspace now?
[12:24] <nozorro> schupa: where are you now. gnome session? gdm login?
[12:24] <worstenboy> hi
[12:24] <sl021> anto9us:        2-letter code of your country:?
[12:25] <anto9us> sl021: where are you?
[12:25] <sl021> texas
[12:25] <sl021> lolz
[12:25] <anto9us> sl021: us
[12:25] <sl021> lol
[12:25] <worstenboy> ive got 2 problems, my mouse somethimes stop working :s and my keyboard layout seems to be wrong, correct letters but no at or pipe
[12:26] <schupa> nozorro: logged in into x, sorry for my bad english.. just a student from sweden ;)
[12:26] <worstenboy> can i reinitialise this usb device
[12:26] <nozorro> !sv
[12:26] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[12:26] <nozorro> schupa that's for you :-)
[12:26] <dark_light> worstenboy, about the keyboard: system->preferences->keyboard
[12:26] <anto9us> sl021: click the include updates and security updates then click "Give me sources.list"
[12:26] <nozorro> schupa: log out from gnome, then back in. should be enough
[12:27] <schupa> nozorro: hehe yeah i know, but they seems to be asleep in that channel :) okey, will try
[12:27] <M0nk3Ee> i am going to have to install kubuntu again, i had a really hassle getting my wireless network card working on this laptop is there some folder or config files that i can backup in order to ease the installation this time around?
[12:27] <AlReece44> My USB mouse and NIC stop working presicely at the same time, shortly after startup. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[12:27] <worstenboy> better ask it in xubuntu, thats what i use ;)
[12:28] <toxik> monk3e
[12:28] <anto9us> sl021: sorry, click the packages and sources check boxes too
[12:28] <dark_light> M0nk3Ee, backup all your home, specially the hidden files (that ones that begin with .)
[12:29] <dark_light> if you run a webserver, you might want to backup the /var/www .. and so on
[12:29] <toxik> just find out the chipset on the card you have and configure ubuntu manualy  for any other cards. it can be tricky. you better off getting an orinoko card with the prism 2 chipset. drivers come with ubuntu for the prism2
[12:30] <anto9us> AlReece44: my guess is it might be a resources conflict, IRQ or DMA, is your bios set to handle these?
[12:30] <toxik> i had the same issue with my laptop
[12:30] <thedash> what are the different "masks" used for samba share access values?
[12:30] <schupa> nozorro: works great, thanks :D
[12:30] <russ> anyone set up linksys usb wireless....???....
[12:30] <anto9us> sl021: are you still with me?
[12:30] <toxik> you are going to have to install 3rd party drivers during the install that are compatible or just get another card
[12:31] <thedash> the guide lists them as being 700 by default and should be changed to 775, but some of mine are 600
[12:31] <nozorro> schupa: you're welcome. by the way, me not native english speaker either, i'm tysk :-) how how do you say?
[12:31] <AlReece44> anto9us: The BIOS is a laptop BIOS, none of the options related to resources.
[12:31] <squeaks> hello, how can i find out what the functionality of a module listed by lsmod is, i'm curious what i can do with the 'battery' module?
[12:31] <squeaks> but i can't google battery module
[12:31] <nozorro> schupa: i meant: or how do you say?
[12:31] <anto9us> AlReece44: I think it's usually listed as plug and play OS installed
[12:32] <anto9us> AlReece44: change that option, if there and see what happens
[12:32] <Paradoxx> How do i edit my grub setup so it will add my windows xp entry for dual boot??
[12:32] <schupa> nozorro: how to say "i'm a german" in swedish?
[12:32] <nozorro> schupa: yes :-)
[12:32] <schupa> nozorro: jag r tysk :)
[12:32] <toxik> hey what channle is this????????
[12:32] <erUSUL> Paradoxx: it should have been added automagically
[12:33] <toxik> automagically
[12:33] <nozorro> schupa: jag r tysk. skol.
[12:33] <toxik> 10101010101010101010101
[12:33] <thedash> what are the different "masks" used for samba share access values?
[12:33] <thedash> the guide lists them as being 700 by default and should be changed to 775, but some of mine are 600
[12:33] <schupa> nozorro: hehe ;)
[12:34] <anto9us> thedash: same as in unix, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHMOD
[12:34] <Paradoxx> erUSUL: i installed win xp second
[12:35] <AlReece44> anto9us: There are no options for "Plug and Play" or anything related, of the optons, there are boot options, a language option, security (password) option and  hard drive diagnostics option.
[12:35] <AlReece44> anto9us: oh and they have time and date options too
[12:35] <cvt> 2. Configuration doesn't apply to me. what am i supposed to do?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[12:35] <icheyne> how do I add a printer using the cups website? I have tried but I do not know the cups password.
[12:35] <ShastaMaroon> I am following the wpa instructions on help.ubuntu .  When I try wpa_supplicant on the interface I get "Could not set interface 'eth1' UP"  Where should I be looking for a problem?
[12:35] <Andrew67> icheyne: its your password
[12:36] <icheyne> Andrew67 - thanks
[12:36] <icheyne> I'll try that
[12:36] <Andrew67> icheyne: if after entering your username and password, it continues asking, make sure user cupsys belongs to group shadow
[12:36] <icheyne> ah ok
[12:36] <icheyne> how do I set that?
[12:36] <nozorro> icheyne: i think ubuntu mangles the cups web page. use the config app instead.
[12:36] <anto9us> AlReece44: well, it was only a guess as to it being the problem anyway, have you looked up your laptop on the ubuntu wiki?
[12:36] <Andrew67> icheyne: sudo adduser cupsys shadow && sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[12:36] <icheyne> thanks nozorro - actually I am on xubuntu but got no help in that channel
[12:37] <icheyne> thanks Andrew
[12:37] <icheyne> :)
[12:37] <Andrew67> then refresh the webinterface
[12:37] <erUSUL> Paradoxx: in the /boot/grub/menu.lst comes an entry for win as an example comented use that
[12:37] <Tonren> Hey guys, how do I remove services from /etc/init.d?  I want to get rid of postfix, but I mean, should I just DELETE /etc/init.d/postfix?  That doesn't seem right
[12:37] <iliketoprogram> hiya!   i have this problem.. i have a vfat partition mounted (in fstab) - it works ok from command line but whenever i try to browse it in nautalis, it hangs up and acts all weird.. or goes very very very slow.. any ideas on why this is?
[12:37] <F0RZA> anyone familiar with any warez used to over clock. such as softfsb. only for linux based systems??????????????????????????????????????????//
[12:37] <Andrew67> Tonren: disable the service?
[12:37] <Tonren> Andrew67: Yeah.  How do I do that?
[12:37] <erUSUL> Paradoxx: around line 37 here
[12:38] <Tonren> Andrew67: No fair using crappy GUI tools.
[12:38] <AlReece44> anto9us: its not on the wiki, but there is a forum topic with it where they have most of the components working.
[12:38] <erUSUL> Tonren: sudo update-rc.d -f postfix remove
[12:38] <Paradoxx> erUSUL: thx much
[12:39] <anto9us> AlReece44: does lsusb still list your mouse after it stops working?
[12:39] <Andrew67> you also might want to check out sysv-rc-conf, nice little app to have lying around
[12:39] <Tonren> erUSUL: Ahh.  Thank you.  If I want to know more, do you think I'll be able to figure out man update-rc.d?
[12:39] <AlReece44> anto9us: I don't know yet, let me check.
[12:40] <anto9us> AlReece44: also, do you have a ps2 converter for it and a port to plug it in?
[12:40] <AlReece44> anto9us: yes it does, and no i don't have a converter or ps2 plug to plug it in.
[12:40] <erUSUL> Tonren: if i can you surely can too ;)
[12:40] <erUSUL> Paradoxx: yw
[12:40] <anto9us> AlReece44: do you have a ps2 mouse you can try?
[12:40] <Tonren> erUSUL: I tell my mom that when I configure her wireless, but it never works
[12:40] <dte> Hello! I just started my computer after being away for few days and ubuntu doesn't detect anything... no sound, no background, no mounted partitions... and that is for my user only... any ideas what might cause that?
[12:41] <AlReece44> anto9us: The laptop doesn't have a ps2 port
[12:41] <bruenig> dte, what does no background mean?
[12:41] <erUSUL> Tonren: ??
[12:41] <Tonren> erUSUL: She always needs me to help her out again two days later. :P
[12:41] <Flamekebab> what does "recursively" mean?
[12:41] <dte> bruenig, it's not the one I had set up... it's just brown color... no picture...
[12:41] <Andrew67> Tonren: youve tried /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:41] <thedash> yeh, so octal permissions confused the hell out of me until I realized they were quite simple :X
[12:41] <bruenig> recursively means it will delete the directory and all subdirectories within it
[12:41] <Flannel> Flamekebab: it means it does it to each directory it sees
[12:41] <AlReece44> anto9us: the touchpad on the laptop still works, i think the nic fails either way.
[12:41] <nozorro> Flamekebab: descending the directory tree
[12:41] <Andrew67> Tonren: wifi-radar is a good gui
[12:42] <bruenig> or will apply to the directory I should say
[12:42] <dte> But I guess that's cuz the partitons are not mounted and it cannot access the pictures
[12:42] <Tonren> Andrew67: I was makin' a joke, dude.
[12:42] <anto9us> AlReece44: sorry, wasn't reading fully, so, it might not be related to the USB system but could be something to do with Xserver which controls the mouse
[12:42] <erUSUL> Tonren: lol
[12:42] <Andrew67> Tonren: channel too crowded to notice everything
[12:42] <Tonren> Andrew67: :P  It's all good.
[12:42] <Tonren> Andrew67: Better you miss the joke than tell me to GTFO or something, right?
[12:42] <Andrew67> err?
[12:42] <Andrew67> i dont hate
[12:42] <Flamekebab> Flannel, so if I'm backing up a home folder to an external hard disk, do I want to use the paramaters "--preserve" and do it recursively? (using cp)
[12:43] <sklav> Hi guys
[12:43] <bruenig> dte, do gedit /etc/fstab and make sure all your partitions are listed
[12:43] <dte> bruenig, i did, and they are
[12:43] <Andrew67> Flamekebab: for backups checkout the -a or --archive flag, which is 3 helpful flags in one iirc
[12:43] <aLPHa_LeaK>  nn
[12:43] <dte> bruenig, everything is like it was before, when everything was working
[12:43] <bruenig> dte, do mount -a
[12:43] <anto9us> AlReece44: anything in Xorg.0.log?
[12:43] <SurfnKid> how can i insert an alt+ object
[12:43] <villr[] ye> can anyone here recommend a good audio player?
[12:43] <SurfnKid> it seems not doing so with 165
[12:44] <sl021> sorry i r bak
[12:44] <AlReece44> anto9us: hold on, let me check.
[12:44] <sklav> villr[] ye, amarok
[12:44] <sl021> i got the code
[12:44] <sl021> thing
[12:44] <anto9us> sl021: paste it into the sources.list file and save it
[12:44] <Andrew67> amaroK is good, watch out if it pulls in too many KDE dependencies :/
[12:44] <swim> does anyone know what the nautilus-bzr plugin does?
[12:44] <sl021> # Automatically generated sources.list # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:44] <sklav> or try xmms for something minimal
[12:44] <villr[] ye> sklav: is there an updated package for it.
[12:44] <thedash> is there any particular reason why some of my folder names [when viewed over my shared files]  change?
[12:44] <dte> bruenig, I did, but it didn't mount them... or at least I don't have access to them :/
[12:44] <anto9us> sl021: let me know when that's done
[12:44] <villr[] ye> i only see 1.3.9
[12:44] <UbuntuNoob> can anyone here give me a very basic step by step on how to play encrypted DVDs in either totem or xine?
[12:44] <villr[] ye> and it's at 1.4.3 now.
[12:44] <CokeNCode> ok, guys, help. want to hide a folder from other users.
[12:45] <CokeNCode> i have made it so they can't read the content
[12:45] <villr[] ye> !automatix
[12:45] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[12:45] <bruenig> dte, everything is the same you say. You are the same user right?
[12:45] <thedash> make it .folder :P
[12:45] <CokeNCode> but, i want them not to be able to see the folder at all
[12:45] <villr[] ye> UbuntuNoob: !automatix
[12:45] <CokeNCode> thedash, isn't there a better way that can't be discovered just by choosing 'show hidden files' ?
[12:45] <nozorro> dte: you're sure no-one tampered with your machine?
[12:45] <dte> bruenig, yes, I am the same user... there are only 2, and this is mine
[12:45] <UbuntuNoob> thanks, I'll take a look at it
[12:45] <sl021> anto9us: k
[12:45] <anto9us> CokeNCode: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHMOD
[12:45] <swim> anyone?
[12:46] <dte> nozorro, nope, no1 able to use linux at home... my sister is surfing the web only... and she doesnt have permission to do anything with the machine
[12:46] <__mikem> CokeNCode, there is, put the contents of the dirrectory in another filesystem, and write a script to mount that filesystem only when your account is logged on
[12:46] <ompaul> UbuntuNoob, if it breaks your machine please note that you need to go to #automatix as we will tell you to reinstall
[12:46] <anto9us> sl021: now make sure synaptic is closed and in a terminal type sudo apt-get update
[12:46] <ompaul> UbuntuNoob, much better to follow the documentation
[12:46] <swim> does anyone know what the nautilus-bzr plugin does anyone at all?
[12:46] <ompaul> !restricted > UbuntuNoob
[12:46] <bruenig> dte, what did it do when you did mount -a?
[12:46] <CokeNCode> anto9us, how is CHMOD gonna help me to hide a folder
[12:46] <dte> bruenig, nothing, just a new line
[12:46] <CokeNCode> they will still see it
[12:46] <ompaul> UbuntuNoob, please read the documentation that ubotu pointed you to
[12:46] <bruenig> dte, do mount -av
[12:46] <thedash> is there any particular reason why some of my folder names [when viewed over my shared files]  change?
[12:46] <anto9us> swim: I guess it would read bazaar servers, sort of like cvs
[12:47] <CokeNCode> their three options with chmod ... write read execute
[12:47] <UbuntuNoob> will do
[12:47] <CokeNCode> nothing in chmod about hiding
[12:47] <sl021> E: Malformed line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:47] <anto9us> CokeNCode: you can set the read permissions on it
[12:47] <rixxon> is there any simple yet useful image editor (think ms paint) in the repos?
[12:47] <thedash> "Dream Theater" became "D0IVKM~Z", "P.O.D." became "P52W9L~A", "t.A.T.u." became "T7925Q~9", and a few others
[12:47] <ompaul> CokeNCode, user group world permissions
[12:47] <__mikem> CokeNCode, let me say this again there is a way to hide the dirrectory, put the contents of the dirrectory in another filesystem, and write a script to mount that filesystem only when your account is logged on
[12:47] <CokeNCode> anto9us, but the read permissions wouldn't hide the folder ... it just means they can't open it
[12:47] <Flamekebab> right, back on track
[12:47] <mikeconcepts> sound blaster 16 wave effects sound card did not work in a new install of dapper for my cousin, and would like to know if there is a howto to resolve that issue
[12:47] <Flamekebab> archiving my entire home folder in a tar archive
[12:47] <dte> bruenig, now it says they are already mounted, but still no permission to access them
[12:47] <sl021> anto9us: line 22: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[12:47] <Flamekebab> thank gods for 400GB external hard drives
[12:47] <anto9us> CokeNCode: you can bury it inside another folder that they can't read, that would hide it
[12:47] <CokeNCode> ok __mikem thanks, I was just making sure I understood correctly, and that these other methods suggested would not work
[12:47] <nozorro> CokeNCode: chmod isn't made for that
[12:48] <bruenig> dte, can you find where they are physically mounted?
[12:48] <bruenig> or not physically but you get the idea
[12:48] <CokeNCode> anto9us, thanks. That was going to be my last resort
[12:48] <bruenig> where on the filesystem they are mounted
[12:48] <anto9us> CokeNCode: make sure the -x is set too, they can't traverse down it then
[12:48] <ompaul> CokeNCode, of course you should remember you can't hide on root or anyone who can sudo -i
[12:48] <dte> bruenig, I don't get what you mean... can you please explain?
[12:48] <swim> whats that cool new menu called?
[12:48] <CokeNCode> ompaul, yeh, i know.
[12:48] <CokeNCode> i'm just hiding it from my g/f : /
[12:48] <__mikem> ompaul, I think my solution is better
[12:48] <bruenig> dte, do gedit fstab, and see where the mount points are, see if they are mounted there
[12:49] <CokeNCode> she doesn't know my root password
[12:49] <villr[] ye> !restricted
[12:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:49] <mike-digiport-> im having a problem loggin in
[12:49] <CokeNCode> she complains whenever she sees my errr ... 'entertainment'
[12:49] <bruenig> dte, not gedit fstab, but gedit /etc/fstab
[12:49] <dte> bruenig, oh, they are all in /media/
[12:49] <ompaul> __mikem, depends on if she can use recovery methods
[12:49] <mike-digiport-> im logging in and it is just trying to go into the window manager, then it goes back to the login screen
[12:49] <mike-digiport-> saying the authentication isnt correct, yet it is
[12:49] <anto9us> sl021: you may have missed some of the file
[12:49] <bruenig> dte, have you tried cding into there
[12:50] <dte> bruenig, yes, it says permission denied
[12:50] <sl021> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[12:50] <sl021> ## distribution.
[12:50] <sl021> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[12:50] <sl021> ## repository.
[12:50] <sl021> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[12:50] <sl021> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[12:50] <mike-digiport-> oh wait I see, out of disk space
[12:50] <ompaul> !paste
[12:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:50] <mike-digiport-> what can I do with apt tool to see tools I dont need for deletion
[12:50] <Tonren> is "ppp" a dial-up modem service?
[12:50] <barata> kppp is easier to use
[12:51] <Tonren> barata: I'm trying to figure out if I can remove it from init.d, because I do'nt have a modem on my laptop
[12:51] <Tonren> Also, what's the difference between anacron and cron?  Which should I run?
[12:52] <destromofia> #gaim on irc.freenode.net
[12:52] <alex__> hi, i juste tried to install xgl/compiz on my amd64, then i abandonned since it seems impossible, but now ive scrapd my gdm, it wont startup even with startx, but typing just X brings up the gui, but gdm and startx only gives my this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1, fixing.
[12:52] <mustang02> hey, I'm trying to get my Ralink 2460 wireless card to work, lsmod shows rt2400 loaded, I installed the rt2400 pakage, but RaConfig2400 says i don't have the driver loaded. dmesg says: rt2400: ra0 at 0xf4100000, VA 0xf8b40000, IRQ 169. and if i enable the card, it freezes my system.
[12:52] <nozorro> Tonren: cron is desgined for machines that are up all the time ...
[12:52] <Tonren> nozorro: I know that.  What's the difference between cron and anacron?
[12:52] <nozorro> Tonren: anachron for those which are turned on/off every day
[12:53] <Tonren> nozorro: Is PPP for dial-up modems?
[12:53] <dte> bruenig, hmm.. in the Users and Groups, under my account in the Advanced tab evetyrhing was disabled... :/
[12:53] <nozorro> Tonren: yes, and for direct serial links
[12:53] <mikeconcepts> sound blaster 16 wave effects sound card did not work in a new install of dapper for my cousin, and would like to know if there is a howto to resolve that issue
[12:53] <Tonren> nozorro: K, I can remove that, too, then... I'm trying to see if Linux will boot faster if I remove extraneous services from init.d
[12:53] <dte> bruenig, I didn't do it... I was editing my realname, but I didn't touch anything else... let me reboot and see if it works now...
[12:53] <nozorro> Tonren: you could remove it, but won't gain much i think
[12:53] <bruenig> dte, that goes to whoever said someone was messing with your system
[12:53] <_Pablox_> hoi
[12:53] <_Pablox_> hi
[12:53] <_Pablox_> :)
[12:54] <Tonren> nozorro: do I need both sysklogd AND klogd?
[12:54] <dte> brb
[12:54] <Tonren> nozorro: Also, I have integrated ATI graphics.  Do I need nvidia-kernel?
[12:54] <sklav> yes Tonren
[12:54] <sklav> kernel logger
[12:54] <nozorro> Tonren: leave them on. you'll miss them one day, trust me :-)
[12:54] <sklav> and system logger
[12:54] <sklav> they are needed
[12:54] <loco_gr> Hi! I have a prob with tvtime. I assume that it has to do with ATI drivers. Here is what i get as an error message : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23101
[12:54] <Tonren> nozorro: sklav: Gotcha.  What about nvidia-kernel?
[12:55] <nozorro> Tonren: don't remove services from init.d in anycase
[12:55] <sklav> Tonren, nvidia kernel is the drivers for nvidia glx
[12:55] <Tonren> nozorro: Why not?  If I don't need them, why run them on bootup?
[12:55] <sklav> so yes you want them but no you dont need them
[12:55] <Tonren> nozorro: I mean, I totally don't need both KDM *AND* GDM, right?
[12:55] <sklav> unless you dont have an nvidia card
[12:55] <Tonren> sklav: Well... I have ATI.
[12:56] <lamego> Tonren, just remove the kdm package :)
[12:56] <sklav> then no you need the ati kenerl drivers
[12:56] <nozorro> Tonren: if you understand all the consequences involved, remove what you want. i don't always (and i've been using linux for 10 years)
[12:56] <Tonren> lamego: Weird... I wonder why aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop didn't get rid fo KDM.
[12:56] <Tonren> nozorro: Worst case scenario, I just add the service again.
[12:56] <nozorro> Tonren: in any case there are tools to remove services cleanly
[12:56] <Tonren> sklav: I gave up on XGL anyway.
[12:56] <sklav> xgl is awesome
[12:56] <lamego> Tonren, kubuntu-desktop is a metpackage, removing it will not remove its contents
[12:56] <sklav> im running it now
[12:56] <Tonren> nozorro: Uhh... isn't update-rc.d one of them?
[12:57] <nozorro> Tonren: provided you can boot up
[12:57] <lamego> meta
[12:57] <Tonren> nozorro: I tried using the GUI Boot-Up Manager and it doesn't work at ALL.
[12:57] <lamego> Tonren, have you logged in using gdm ?
[12:57] <Tonren> lamego: Yeah, I've always used GDM.  I tried to install kubuntu-desktop, and it broke my computer, so I uninstalled it.
[12:58] <dte> bruenig, works great now... thats for trying to help... changeing something in the Users and Groups sets them to a default or something? Or I clicked something that I didn't notice doing it?
[12:58] <vrta> a quick question: can i make an application start on a specific workspace?
[12:58] <nozorro> Tonren: update-rc.d doesn't remove from /etc/init.d
[12:58] <mike-digiport-> I need to boot the computer off the ubuntu cd,. so I can then mount the harddrive so I can wipe out tmp directories that are taking up space
[12:58] <Tonren> nozorro: ... now I'm confused.
[12:58] <lamego> Tonren, install sysvconfig
[12:58] <mike-digiport-> how can I do this
[12:58] <mike-digiport-> once the CD is in, and I've restarted??
[12:58] <Bennedetto> hey, anyone here use gnome-rdp?
[12:58] <bruenig> dte, gui, *yawn*
[12:58] <lamego> sysvconfig is a curses based service manager
[12:59] <Tonren> lamego: What is "curses"?  I've heard of it before but don't actually know what it is
[12:59] <nozorro> Tonren: that's why i warned you :-) -- man update-rc.d
[12:59] <dte> bruenig, yeah, but I am new to the linux world so it's ok for now ;)... anyway, off to watch some Voyager, thanks again! Bye bye!
[12:59] <mike-digiport-> anyone?
[12:59] <Tonren> nozorro: If it doesn't remove a service from /etc/init.d, what DOES update-rc.d do?  Doesn't /etc/init.d manage which services are launched on bootup?
[12:59] <Flamekebab> after running up against the lovely limitation on filesize that users of FAT32 are all too familiar with, I have a question
[12:59] <lamego> Tonren, cursues is a text based library
[12:59] <lamego> curses
[12:59] <Tonren> lamego: Library for what...?
[12:59] <lamego> it means, its a console baded program
[12:59] <Tonren> lamego: Oh, like text-based GUIs?
[12:59] <nozorro> Tonren: i told you already. use man
[12:59] <lamego> Tonren, to develop text guis :P
[12:59] <lamego> yup
[01:00] <Flamekebab> so, how do I create a tar archive of a folder, with it automatically splitting into a new one every 3.5GB?
[01:00] <mike-digiport-> How can I boot Linux off my Ubuntu CD so I can boot into some type of terminal to mount the harddrive, and wipe out the /tmp directories
[01:00] <Tonren> nozorro: Oh... dude, don't scare me like that.  It just manages the scripting tool that runs ON TOP of init.d.  So it doesn't DIRECTLY affect init.d, but it kind of does anyway.
[01:00] <AlReece44> anto9us: you there?
[01:00] <lamego> Flamekebab, you tar to the stdout and pipe it to the split command
[01:00] <mike-digiport-> because the files inside are taking up too much HD space
[01:00] <anto9us> AlReece44: yes
[01:00] <Bennedetto> mike-digiport-: just put the cd in and reboot the computer
[01:00] <mike-digiport-> I did
[01:01] <Bennedetto> ok
[01:01] <AlReece44> anto9us: the only thing I think might be it would be "ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?"
[01:01] <nozorro> Tonren: yes. but before you said you're going to remove from init.d, whithout even mentioning the tool you're using
[01:01] <mike-digiport-> but when i press enter in the boot: prompt
[01:01] <mike-digiport-> it just goes to the insstallation
[01:01] <Bennedetto> hmm
[01:01] <AlReece44> anto9us: in Xorg.0.log
[01:01] <Flamekebab> lamego, how do I go about doing that?
[01:01] <vrta> Can i make an application start on a specific workspace? Like adding some parameter to its shortcut or something..:=
[01:01] <Bennedetto> what cd do you have? is it a newer or and older one
[01:01] <Tonren> nozorro: True.  I did, in fact, have little to no idea what I was doing.  However, I knew enough that I knew NOT to just delete stuff from /etc/init.d.  That's why i was asking about the tool to use.
[01:01] <Flamekebab> bearing in mind that it must be done "on the fly" so to speak
[01:01] <lamego> Flamekebab, you will need the basics of using linux commands with stdin/stdout and pipe
[01:01] <tj> what do you guys think would be the best way to make a menu through a bash script that is terminal based? (currently using dialog, looking for better way)
[01:02] <Tonren> vrta: I think that KDE has some GUI tools for that, but I'm not sure.
[01:02] <lamego> Flamekebab, "tar cvf - files | split "
[01:02] <Bennedetto> mike-digiport-: the cd's take you into a live cd environment, at least they did when i installed ubuntu
[01:02] <lamego> Flamekebab, man split, for the split options, i dont remember now
[01:02] <vrta> i'm using gnome... :/
[01:02] <mike-digiport-> o.
[01:02] <Flamekebab> hmm
[01:02] <sklav> mike-digiport-, which versionare you installing?
[01:02] <Tonren> vrta: I know, but sometimes stuff like that is important enough to you that you might switch.  :P
[01:02] <Flamekebab> lamego, can you recieve PMs on here? If so, would you mind if I quickly asked you a few questions about this?
[01:02] <Bennedetto> mike-digiport-: if you had any live cd at all you could do it, knoppix would work
[01:02] <anto9us> AlReece44: it's beyond me mate, there's a lot of things to try, order of modules being loaded etc. other than that I don't know what to advise
[01:02] <vehbi> does ubuntu play mp3 and divx by default? also rar archives
[01:03] <Tonren> nozorro: So, hang on.. before I had sysvconfig installed, was Ubuntu still using sysvconfig script to boot up?
[01:03] <mike-digiport-> i got the ubuntu 5.10 for pc
[01:03] <Tonren> nozorro: Or did I just change my boot-up procedure by installing the sysvconfig package?
[01:03] <Bennedetto> hmm, i dont know i haven't used any older versions
[01:03] <sklav> mike-digiport-, ok that start the installer
[01:03] <Flamekebab> vehbi, I'm pretty certain it doesn't, but it can be easily arranged
[01:03] <nozorro> Tonren: update-rc.d should be ok. there's another one that i don't remember right now. be carfule though:-) it's all very intricate. remember these are bootup scripts
[01:03] <AlReece44> anto9us: okay, thanks for the help anyways
[01:03] <sklav> you might have to type rescue and then enter
[01:03] <sklav> i just dont remmebr exactly
[01:03] <vrta> vehbi: no it doesn't u have to apt-get some things and then it works like a carm
[01:04] <sklav> 6.06 on the other hand loads a desktop
[01:04] <Tonren> nozorro: Maybe I still don't understand.  So there are TWO scripts here... the sysvconfig scripts AND the init.d scripts?  Because /etc/init.d just has a bunch of scripts.
[01:04] <erUSUL> vehbi: not out of the box but is easy to add support for everything you like
[01:04] <agentCy> hello
[01:04] <sklav> Tonren, /etc/init.d is like windows services
[01:04] <sklav> that is where the services scripts are loaded
[01:04] <vehbi> what about flash disk detection and cdrom , are they automatic by default?
[01:04] <aSt3raL> how do i check to see if my ssh server is running?
[01:04] <erUSUL> vehbi: yes
[01:04] <vehbi> and bluetooth
[01:05] <zero-1> how can i format as swap using disks-admin?
[01:05] <erUSUL> !bluetooth
[01:05] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:05] <Andrew67> aSt3raL: you could ssh into localhost
[01:05] <sklav> aSt3raL, try connecting to it is my fail safe way
[01:05] <erUSUL> !mp3
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <mdock> im at bnb buying a ubuntu book. orielly hacks vs official guide? any suggestions? i have it installed and running already. i'm prob intermediate level
[01:05] <agentCy> ps -elf | grep ssh
[01:05] <nozorro> Tonren: which are started according to the runlevel called, in /etc/init.d/rc<runlevelnumber>.d -- the scripts in the latter are links to the ones in /etc/init.d
[01:06] <shahab> Hi
[01:06] <sklav> hi
[01:06] <aSt3raL> localhost works but remote wont work
[01:06] <agentCy> hi
[01:06] <vehbi> java? is it in repository?
[01:06] <Andrew67> aSt3raL: any firewall running?
[01:06] <Tonren> nozorro: Right, I knew that much... but I don't understand why you need two SCRIPTS.  What do the rc#.d scripts do, if the init.d scripts are the ones that actually run stuff?
[01:06] <villr[] ye> I'm trying to build libdvdcss2 but it fails
[01:06] <aSt3raL> no
[01:06] <aSt3raL> also nfs isnt working
[01:06] <Andrew67> router?
[01:06] <villr[] ye> make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[01:06] <sklav> aSt3raL, you have a firewall?
[01:06] <villr[] ye> is the error i get
[01:06] <shahab> guys i am new to Ubuntu, I just need to know how to install stuffs on my new OS ?
[01:06] <agentCy> ssh to port 22?
[01:06] <russ> can anyone help install a wireless card....???....
[01:06] <aSt3raL> i can ping the remote computer
[01:06] <villr[] ye> what has that package?
[01:07] <aSt3raL> but not connect to any services
[01:07] <erUSUL> !synaptic > shahab
[01:07] <Tonren> shahab: Go to Applications -> Add/Remove programs
[01:07] <erUSUL> !synaptic
[01:07] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:07] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: do you have portmap installed?
[01:07] <sklav> shahab, try synaptic
[01:07] <nozorro> Tonren: read that man page please
[01:07] <sklav> its self explanatory
[01:07] <agentCy> !hermes
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hermes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <aSt3raL> it was working fine yesterday..
[01:07] <sklav> its a package manager
[01:07] <mike-digiport-> so i just run the installation as normal?\
[01:07] <sklav> you dont need portmap for ssh
[01:07] <Andrew67> or Add/Remove Programs contains basic programs
[01:07] <paradizelost> sklav: you do for nfs though
[01:07] <nozorro> Tonren: you're on the right track, but even with the right tool, bootup scripts are somewhat dangerous to handle
[01:07] <sklav> mike-digiport-, if your trying to do an install yes
[01:08] <aSt3raL> nfs ssh and apache wont accept remote connections
[01:08] <sklav> paradizelost, yes that i agree
[01:08] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: can you telnet to the ports?
[01:08] <Andrew67> aSt3raL: are you behind a router?
[01:08] <Tonren> nozorro: I've read it, but I don't know what "init" is, exactly, and I have no concept of "runlevels" either.
[01:08] <KyoLptp`> mplayer froze and won't close when I click X
[01:08] <KyoLptp`> how do I kill it?
[01:08] <sklav> aSt3raL, you have firewall installed?
[01:08] <Andrew67> Tonren: init is the master process
[01:08] <aSt3raL> theres a router no firewall
[01:08] <Andrew67> sklav: he said no
[01:08] <AlReece44> aSt3raL: can you ping the computer?
[01:08] <Andrew67> you need to forward the ports
[01:08] <aSt3raL> yes i can ping it
[01:08] <Andrew67> using the router interface
[01:08] <Tonren> nozorro: You can't possibly be telling me that it's dangerous to tell my computer that it doesn't need to run "festival" text-to-speech every freaking time it boots up.
[01:08] <sklav> sorry i missed it it
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[01:09] <KyoLptp`> please elaborate
[01:09] <Tonren> nozorro: I mean... there's no easier way to do it, with less risk involved...?
[01:09] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: do you have physical access to the box?
[01:09] <aSt3raL> yes
[01:09] <nozorro> Tonren: if you don't know these, take even more care when changing the boot procedure. it's all documented though.
[01:09] <sklav> is listen 127.0.0.1 an option in the sshd_config
[01:09] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: make sure the services are running on the box.  ps -eaf|grep sshd
[01:09] <sklav> or is listen 0.0.0.0
[01:09] <KyoLptp`> oh, nevermnind
[01:09] <KyoLptp`> mind*
[01:09] <Andrew67> sklav: he said he's behind a router, its possibly needs port forwarding
open a terminal and type xkill then click on the app window  you want to close
[01:09] <KyoLptp`> thanks
[01:09] <Tonren> nozorro: I don't mean to sound snippy.  It's just that I am a college student without a hundred years to kill, and I feel like there should be a way to remove something as useless as "festival text to speech" without worrying about bricking my boot process.
[01:10] <aSt3raL> nah i didnt have port forwarding set up before
[01:10] <Andrew67> Tonren: sysv-rc-conf
no worries
[01:10] <nozorro> Tonren: festival should be no problem, but ...
[01:10] <sklav> Tonren, then remove the festival package
[01:10] <nozorro> Tonren: these scripts are very interdependent
[01:10] <nozorro> Tonren: sometimes you don't see it until it's too late.
[01:11] <Tonren> nozorro: I understand.  You're saying for example, even if I don't have a dialup modem, removing the ppp process might confuse another one that depends on it.
[01:11] <nozorro> Tonren: it *might*
[01:11] <aSt3raL> haha
[01:11] <Tonren> nozorro: Well, I'm about to reboot after removing a bunch of processes, so let's hope I didn't break everything!  :D
[01:11] <luisbg> there is a kernel that appears in my menu.lst of grub, I want to boot from it, but when I reboot in the grub it doesn't appear, how can I make grub update with the menu.lst?
[01:11] <aSt3raL> my laptop connected to the wrong wireless network
[01:11] <nozorro> Tonren: in any case ppp won't start if you don't have a modem. similar to other services
[01:12] <aSt3raL> man that one was racking my brain too
[01:12] <Andrew67> aSt3raL: configure your wireless to connect you yours then
[01:12] <tj> what is the best way to make terminal based menus through bash scripts?
[01:12] <Tonren> nozorro: I see it starting when I boot up
[01:12] <Tonren> nozorro: I don't hav ea bluetooth laptop, but bluetooth services start up
[01:12] <nozorro> Tonren: they might just check things and then exit
[01:12] <Tonren> nozorro: Anyway, I had to find a way to increase boot speed.  It takes a full two-to-three minutes, whereas windows takes about thirty seconds.
[01:13] <Tonren> nozorro: That's not a huge amount of time, but I turn my laptop off and on a lot because it gets hot, and three minutes of nothing is excrutiating when i just want to get work done.
[01:13] <larryone> my ubuntu server is having network problems.... it can only communitcte within its own subnet. I'll fix that later, but for now I need sshd on it as it's console connection sucks
[01:13] <sklav> Tonren this might be related to dhcp or something similar
[01:13] <nozorro> Tonren: could we get to a more practical level please
[01:13] <Tonren> nozorro: What do you mean?
[01:13] <larryone> what deb package do I need???  (6.06)
[01:13] <sklav> misconfigured network can cause delays that you have mentionned
[01:13] <nozorro> Tonren: you're typing 3 answers at a time :-)
[01:13] <Tonren> sklav: It's not that; "configuring network services" takes about 5 seconds.  At least, I don't think it's that.
[01:14] <Tonren> nozorro: I'm sorry.. I don't see what you mean.  3 answers?
[01:14] <mike-digiport-> I just dont know what to type in the boot: prompt when the CD is booted after a restart
[01:14] <nozorro> Tonren: stay a bit more focussed please.
[01:14] <mike-digiport-> cause i just need a shell
[01:14] <mike-digiport-> a rescue type shell
[01:14] <Tonren> nozorro: ... okay?
[01:15] <sklav> mike-digiport-, when the cdrom boots use the advanced option which list different ways to boot of of the 5.10 cdrom
[01:15] <nozorro> Tonren: basically, i'm telling you: use that tool to change the boot procedure, but take a lot of care. change one thing at a time.
[01:15] <Tonren> nozorro: Anyway, I'm gonna reboot.  Let's see if I broke my linux!
[01:15] <Tonren> nozorro: That's good advice, at least
[01:15] <sklav> it says how to do it on the screen example of one is F2
[01:15] <mad_man> what is the prog to use for burning a iso file for booting from ?
[01:15] <mike-digiport-> sklav: Once I execute a shell
[01:16] <mad_man> best*
[01:16] <mike-digiport-> it loads the tmpfs right?
[01:16] <sklav> before you execute a shell
[01:16] <Tonren> nozorro: I should've done one at a time, but I did a few... the troublemaker would probably be KDM or PPP, because I didn't configure kubuntu properly when I tried to install it
[01:16] <sklav> yes mike-digiport-
[01:16] <Tonren> Here goes!
[01:16] <mike-digiport-> can I then mount the hd there?
[01:16] <brendonjt> mad_man: to burn a iso  i recomend k3b  it's the bomb
[01:16] <sklav> it loads all sorts of recovery programs
[01:16] <mike-digiport-> cause trying mount /dev/hda1 tells me cant find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab
[01:16] <luisbg> i've generated a menu.lst with update-grub, how do I make grub work with it now?
[01:16] <erUSUL> mad_man: in naitilus right click in the iso file and choose burn to disk
[01:17] <larryone> I'm browsing through the ubuntu mirror ftp site nearest me, but can't find which deb file I need for sshd on my ubuntu server (6.06) can anyone tell me where I need to look?
[01:17] <nozorro> Tonren: you need to know what each service does, and how. best way is to read the init scripts
[01:17] <sklav> luisbg, just reboot grub always re-reads the grub.lst file
[01:17] <tj> for science fair, my team is trying to make ubuntu simpler for beginner users, what do you guys think of an automated installer that remains up to date, and gets apps from sourceforge via a mirror of your choice?
[01:17] <Andrew67> luisbg: if its /boot/grub/menu.lst then next reboot should pick it up
[01:18] <luisbg> Andrew67, hmmm it didn't weird
[01:18] <luisbg> sklav, really :S
[01:18] <sklav> yes luisbg
[01:18] <sklav> just make sure its located where Andrew67 mentionned
[01:18] <erUSUL> larryone: use synaptic to install software. or 'sudo apt-get install sshd'
[01:19] <larryone> erUSUL, I cant
[01:19] <larryone> I need to do this one by hand
[01:19] <larryone> also I'm consoled in, graphical applications cant be run
[01:19] <erUSUL> larryone: why yo can not?
[01:19] <erUSUL> you
[01:19] <larryone> my ubuntu server is having network problems.... it can only communitcte within its own subnet. I'll fix that later, but for now I need sshd on it as it's console connection sucks
[01:19] <luisbg> sklav, it is where Andrew67 points out
[01:19] <mike-digiport-> ahhhh'
[01:20] <erUSUL> larryone: use apt or aptitude both for cli
[01:20] <sklav> then luisbg it should be picked up on the next reboot
[01:20] <Tonren> nozorro: Well, here I am!  Boot-up is definitely a little quicker.
[01:20] <nozorro> erUSUL: the package is called openssh-server
[01:20] <larryone> they wont work - I can only communicate inside my subnet
[01:20] <luisbg> sklav, will try again thanks
[01:20] <sklav> larryone, its sounds like a problem of default gateway
[01:20] <nozorro> Tonren: good for you :-)
[01:21] <Tonren> nozorro: Aww, you're so pissed that I didn't break everything.
[01:21] <larryone> erUSUL, none of them will work, I need to get the deb onto another machine, then ftp it to my ubuntu server to install
[01:21] <Tonren> nozorro: (that came off a lot more asinine than I meant it to - sorry.  :P)
[01:21] <larryone> sklav, my default gateway is correct
[01:21] <larryone> same as my other machines
[01:21] <erUSUL> larryone: as nozorro says it is openssh-server
[01:21] <nozorro> Tonren: would you have thought that removing cron/anacron would change printing options? you wouldn't
[01:21] <sklav> larryone, are you able to access internet from that machine?
[01:22] <larryone> yes, but do I get it in http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/  or in another directory???
[01:22] <Tonren> nozorro: No, I didn't think about that.  I kept anacron, but removed cron, for the record.
[01:22] <larryone> sklav, no, I can only communicate with machines in the subnet
[01:22] <Tonren> nozorro: Actually, it makes sense now that I think about it.  because the crontab probably controls printer checking.
[01:22] <sklav> larryone, is there a reason you are not using apt-get install packagename?
[01:22] <larryone> YES!
[01:22] <larryone> I have no internet connection on that machine
[01:22] <nozorro> Tonren: it could, but it doesn't. i meant something else :-)
[01:23] <Tonren> nozorro: Oh.  Why, then?
[01:23] <larryone> I can only talk to machines on my subnet!
[01:23] <nozorro> Tonren: you would find out one day if you removed it :-)
[01:23] <sklav> ok
[01:23] <Tonren> nozorro: Hahaha, well I won't.  The two of them, at least, are important!
[01:23] <agentCy> can you tunnel the apt get thru another machine?
[01:23] <nozorro> Tonren: not to mention that your logs won't be cycled correctly anymore
[01:23] <ABRAXAS77> hi
[01:24] <ABRAXAS77> can  u recommend any vnc client please?
[01:24] <larryone> I need to get sshd on it because I'm currently consoled in, but the console connection doesnt let me do much.
[01:24] <Tonren> nozorro: If I removed anacron?
[01:24] <brendonjt> what web browsers  do ppl  use here i decided to give epiphany ago  and so far it is ok
[01:24] <erUSUL> larryone: can you use wget?
[01:24] <Tonren> ABRAXAS77: I think ubuntu comes installed with "vncviewer"
[01:24] <ABRAXAS77> tortoise_,   i dont use ubuntu
[01:24] <sklav> brendonjt, i use firefox
[01:24] <nozorro> Tonren: then you have to rely on the machine being switched on at the correct hours
[01:24] <Tonren> nozorro: Is that if I removed anacron?
[01:24] <bayzider> how do i install active x on firefox in ubuntu
[01:24] <larryone> erUSUL, I cant talk to anything outside my subnet, so NO!
[01:25] <nozorro> Tonren: yep
[01:25] <Tonren> nozorro: Well, I didn't.  :P
[01:25] <brendonjt> sklaw: ff  has some good plugins  easy to configure
[01:25] <tortoise_> ABRAXAS77: your loss :)
[01:25] <Tonren> nozorro: Maybe you can help me with something else... for some reason, Ubuntu no longer runs dhclient eth0 on bootup. (btw, I DID NOT screw with ANY network-oriented boot stuff other than ppp).  What's the deal with that?
[01:25] <bouncing> Can anyone find f-stop? I remember it in ubuntu, but I don't see the package anymore.
[01:25] <tortoise_> ABRAXAS77: Can I help you?
[01:25] <nozorro> Tonren: no idea really
[01:25] <Tonren> nozorro: Hmmm.
[01:25] <larryone> I just want to know where in the local repository do I get the openssh-server, is it in /ubuntu/pool/main/ ???
[01:25] <larryone> or elsewhere?
[01:25] <sklav> brendonjt, firefox is also pretty quick and well supported
[01:25] <erUSUL> larryone: so how you expect to get the package and install it? i think that you said that you were browsing some ftp site...
[01:25] <Tonren> Hey, can anyone give me some insight into why this postfix error occurs?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23102
[01:25] <erUSUL> larryone: http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh-server_4.2p1-7ubuntu3_i386.deb
[01:25] <Zarephath> Just got 6.06 installed on my lappie :-)
[01:26] <brendonjt> sklaw: epiphany the only thing is the extensions  can't be configureed and it is less configureable,  but FF is a resource  hog as well
[01:26] <agentCy> Zarephath, everything works?? :)
[01:26] <larryone> erUSUL, thank you, you have just answered my question
[01:26] <Zarephath> However my scroll on the synaptic touch pad doesn't work? Has anyone seen a fix?
[01:26] <bayzider> any one know?
[01:26] <Zarephath> agenCy: Pretty much
[01:26] <ABRAXAS77> tortoise_, was not for u,im sorry
[01:26] <agentCy> awesome
[01:27] <larryone> and to answer yours, my other machines can access the internet, but my ubuntu server can only talk to the local machines on the local subnet
[01:27] <erUSUL> larryone: so after all you can somehow acces the net (although indirectly...)
[01:27] <larryone> yes
[01:27] <kingpanga> Help PLS !!!
[01:27] <erUSUL> !help
[01:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:27] <larryone> I can access the net from a different machine, then ftp the deb over to the ubuntu server
[01:27] <sklav> Tonren, have you configured postfix?
[01:27] <bayzider> !active x
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about active x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <Tonren> sklav: Incorrectly.
[01:27] <liquidten2> Tonren: if you read the output, it specifically says that /etc/postfix/main.cf doesn't exist.  Also, it doesn't matter because you received an IP address anyway.
[01:28] <erUSUL> bayzider: yo can't use active x in linux firefox
[01:28] <bayzider> oh ok, thanks
[01:28] <sklav> Tonren, it seems you have deleted main.cf
[01:28] <Tonren> liquidten2: It doesn't matter, but I'm a perfectionist schmuck and want it to go away.
[01:28] <kingpanga> what is the command that replaces "ll" in fedora ????????
[01:28] <sklav> or renamed it
[01:29] <erUSUL> kingpanga: ll works for me here is usually an alias for ls -l
[01:29] <Tonren> kingpanga: alias...?
[01:29] <Tonren> sklav: I... don't know what main.cf is.  I never messed with it directly.  What is a .cf file?
[01:29] <djm62> OK, I've googled about and found out that I can reset networkmanager after suspend (suspend to disk, at least).  I have a script that does the trick- how can I get this to Just Work?  I'm sure I can find somewhere to put it so that it gets executed, but where's the best place?
[01:29] <kingpanga> thx erUSUL:
[01:30] <sklav> Tonren, main.cf is like a windows ini file
[01:30] <mike-digiport-> how can I load the login screen of Ubuntu in console mode
[01:30] <mike-digiport-> ctrl+alt+f1 didnt do anything
[01:30] <sklav> and its postfix specific this file
[01:30] <Tonren> sklav: Do you think maybe, if I uninstalled postfix, but something else was looking for it, I'd get this error?
[01:30] <nootrope> Synaptic seems to be stuck on Installing and removing software. It's throbbing on the tesk bar but not doing anything. What does this throbbing indicate?
[01:30] <sklav> Tonren garanteed
[01:31] <Tonren> sklav: OKay... well, I don't want to reinstall Postfix, so, how do I figure out what is looking for it, and have it stop looking for it?
[01:31] <sklav> Tonren you have your first broken dep it seems
[01:31] <Tonren> sklav: Or should I just bite the bullet and reinstall postfix?
[01:31] <mike-digiport-> ???
[01:31] <sudo> nootrope: it doesn't really mean anything, it usually happens
[01:31] <Tonren> sklav: This isn't a function of removing stuff using update-rc.d, btw.  This was happening for a while before
[01:32] <sklav> Tonren if postfix is installed just disable it from starting
[01:32] <nootrope> sudo: ok. thanks.
[01:32] <Tonren> sklav: I used sudo update-rc.d postfix remove
[01:32] <Tonren> sklav: But it's still giving me this error.
[01:32] <sklav> Tonren, ok that removes the start service
[01:32] <CokeNCode> ok, i have ubuntu installed, and i need to set up a dual boot from here ... i have another hard drive by the way ... what's the easiest way to go about this
[01:32] <CokeNCode> ubuntu is already installed
[01:32] <anto9us> djm62: /etc/acpi/resume.sh might be the place for it
[01:32] <Tonren> sklav: How do I disable the whole service...?  If that's what you're saying I should do?
[01:32] <CokeNCode> and so is xp on the hard drive
[01:33] <nozorro> Tonren: sorry, i was brutally interrupted and will be back in a few mins
[01:33] <sklav> pretty much the way you mentionned
[01:33] <sklav> just make sure you spelled everything correctly
[01:33] <sklav> linux is case sensative
[01:34] <djm62> anto9us: a place that won't get replaced, or surprise me by asking if I want to update this file or keep it the same, long after I've forgotten all about this little fix?
[01:34] <Flannel> CokeNCode: make space for windows, then install, then recover your grub : help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:35] <anto9us> djm62: I can't see a way around that
[01:35] <Vern> I'm new to Linux (using Ubuntu, else why would I be in this channel?) and would like to know how to modify the Grub configuration files.
[01:35] <russ> has anyone installed a rt2500 Module....???....
[01:35] <erUSUL> Vern: to do what?
[01:36] <erUSUL> !grub
[01:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:36] <Blissex> Vern: well, you can just edit it with something like 'gedit'. Or use a frontend.
[01:36] <erUSUL> russ: me
[01:36] <Vern> But what and where are the grub files to edit?
[01:36] <Blissex> Vern: the Ubuntu command line frontend is 'update-grub'. There are others.
[01:36] <erUSUL> Vern: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <sklav> vern /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <sklav> :)
[01:36] <djm62> anto9us: ach well... I'm sure the issue will be solved by next upgrade anyhow
[01:36] <russ> i don't think i get how to install it....i have everything else i need for ubuntu but wireless drivers....
[01:37] <Vern> Thank you muchly!
[01:37] <erUSUL> russ: did you followed the wiki?
[01:37] <anto9us> djm62: especially if you put in a bug report and possibly a patch to trigger your script
[01:37] <russ> i have the installation that comes in the module folder....that's it....
[01:38] <erUSUL> russ: are you using the module that comes with ubuntu or compiling your own
[01:38] <erUSUL> ?
[01:39] <erUSUL> russ: to compile the dl module just do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:39] <russ> i got this from a site....i really have no idea what i am doing with this....
[01:39] <bruenig> with the exception of using azureus, can I make a .torrent file in linux
[01:39] <erUSUL> russ: run the comand i gave you
[01:39] <TJ> sudo rm -rf /*    or    sudo find / -iname *"**" -delete
[01:39] <djm62> anto9us: no idea what package it would properly be in (acpi-something or NetworkManager?)
[01:40] <bruenig> TJ
[01:40] <bruenig> no one run what TJ just said
[01:40] <stoops> TJ  is an idiot
[01:40] <anto9us> djm62: I'd say acpi, I'm just looking for the appropriate launchpad location now
[01:40] <djm62> anto9us: oh, cheers!
[01:41] <sklav> guys im off for a bit
[01:41] <sklav> later all
[01:42] <erUSUL> russ: any progress?
[01:43] <anto9us> djm62: I think here, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bugs
[01:43] <russ> working on it....ty....
[01:43] <erUSUL> russ: that was only the first step in the process...
[01:44] <russ> o.k....finished....now what do i do....???....
[01:44] <djm62> anto9us: thank you very much, I'll have a search through and then post what I know
[01:44] <erUSUL> russ: are you in the Module folder ?
[01:45] <anto9us> djm62: great idea :)
[01:45] <russ> yes....
[01:45] <erUSUL> russ: run 'make'
[01:47] <weed_> hey, does anyone can help me with the start menu bug?
[01:47] <erUSUL> russ: it should have finished by now...
[01:48] <cmerk> does anyone know what a visible bell in .inputrc looks like?
[01:48] <anto9us> cmerk: a flashing screen I believe
[01:48] <russ> o.k.....i am new at this....where do i run it....
[01:48] <cmerk> anto9us: thanks
[01:48] <Flannel> russ: programs > accessories > terminal
[01:48] <erUSUL> russ: in a console/terminal
[01:49] <erUSUL> !cli
[01:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:49] <nozorro> Tonren: what is your hardware?
[01:49] <erUSUL> russ: with 'cd /path/to/rt.../Module' and then run make
[01:50] <agentCy> anyone know how to configure the kernel to support the hermes wireless chipset?
[01:50] <Zarephath> larryone: Sounds like you need to look at hosts and hosts.allow and make the appropriate entries for the other machines on your network
[01:50] <brendonjt> erusul:i am using ubuntu(gnome)  but i installed konsole as found it more better as it give you the option of a root sheel as well
[01:50] <weed_> hey, does anyone can help me with the start menu bug?
[01:51] <anto9us> weed_: just ask your question, if someone knows the answer, they may help you :)
[01:51] <erUSUL> brendonjt: i use urxvt + screen when i need root i do 'sudo -i' simple and lightweight... ;)
[01:51] <weed_> its the start menu bug, isnt load anymore :/
[01:51] <weed_> i fix the right click but the start menu doesnt work
[01:52] <anto9us> weed_: it's missing from your panel?
[01:52] <mike-digiport-> how can I delete all the ubuntu games installed
[01:52] <mike-digiport-> ?
[01:52] <Flannel> brendonjt: you can open a root terminal in gnome as well, there's a menu item for it... somewhere
[01:52] <erUSUL> weed_: maybe you somehow removed it. add a new one right click in the pannel and choose add to pannel
[01:53] <weed_> anto9us, noo, its a bug, when u try to edit the menu, its doesnt open anymore
[01:53] <brendonjt> erusul:i got sick, if typeing sudo  or su -i, i like to open straight to root,  it is easier  lol
[01:53] <DigitalNinja> Does vfat support long file names?
[01:53] <nozorro> mike-digiport-: try removing gnome-games
[01:53] <erUSUL> weed_: if it is a bug there is nothing we can do abaut it. report it in launchpad
[01:53] <erUSUL> !bugs
[01:53] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:54] <nozorro> mike-digiport-: and gnome-games-data
[01:54] <FirstStrike> DigitalNinja: fat32 supports filenames up to 255 characters in length
[01:54] <brendonjt> Flannel:yip  it burried deep in the settings somewhere lol
[01:54] <DigitalNinja> FirstStrike: OK.
[01:56] <DigitalNinja> FirstStrike: I'm trying to copy data to a usb drive with a vfat file system. I get errors every time. However, if I copy the data to a directory on the system I don't get any errors
[01:56] <swim> i am really appalled at all linux gui ftp apps
[01:56] <brendonjt> swin:  in what way??
[01:56] <anto9us> swim: tried nautilus?
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> what would be causing a buzzing sound to be coming from my tower
[01:57] <quintin> I am really appaled at linux
[01:57] <tainted_> how do i convert wav to mp3?
[01:57] <quintin> tainted_: search the web, please
[01:57] <erUSUL> tainted_: sound-converter, lame...
[01:57] <gok> hi
[01:57] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: a bearing in the PSU or processor fan or maybe a cd in the drive where the hole isn't exactly in the center
[01:57] <erUSUL> !info sound-converter
try using sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[01:57] <ubotu> Package sound-converter does not exist in any distro I know
[01:57] <tainted_> quintin appalled as in discovering you have a third nipple appalled?
[01:58] <vrta> hi, me again....
[01:58] <quintin> tainted_: something like that
[01:58] <tainted_> erUSUL doesn't lame require mp3 plugin?
could that lead to further probs im not sorted, these things tend to be cheap dont they
[01:58] <gok> i would to buy pci ide controler, please tell where i can find ubuntu compatibliy list ?
[01:58] <erUSUL> tainted_: lame is cli compressor it does not need plugins
[01:58] <vrta> can someone tell me, if i can set a "timer", that kills an application certain amount of time after its start?
[01:58] <quintin> tainted_: www.google.com ffs
[01:58] <quintin> vrta: man sleep, man kill
[01:59] <swim> anto9us: yah I have
[01:59] <vrta> tnx!
[01:59] <Tonren> nozorro: My hardware....?
[01:59] <quintin> vrta: np
[01:59] <tainted_> quintin gfys
[01:59] <quintin> tainted_: follow the TOC, you POS
[01:59] <tainted_> quiet tmsb
[01:59] <quintin> tainted_: you are askin ga question that wastes people's time here.  You'd be much better served by searching for a guide on google
[01:59] <nozorro> Tonren: or why are you so keen on booting up faster. i mean things are not perfect but i don't have the newest hardware either
[01:59] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, can lead to overheating if it goes, fans are quite cheap
[01:59] <tainted_> ./ignore quintin
[02:00] <tainted_> oops
[02:00] <vrta> btw: a while ago i was asking about automativ window positioning and starting applications on a predefined workspaces...
[02:00] <vrta> this can be done with devilspie app
[02:00] <quintin> tainted_: I don't like holding people's hands.  You have to help yourself.
[02:00] <vrta> if anyone is interested
[02:00] <vrta> bye
[02:00] <Milktea> What are some good gnome IRC clients
[02:00] <Tonren> nozorro: I'd just like it to boot almost as fast as Windows.  At this point there's about a 3 or 4 minute difference
[02:00] <bruenig> virta, you say that you can start applications on specific workspaces?
[02:01] <erUSUL> Milktea: x-chat period
[02:01] <quintin> Milktea: I prefer irssi, it's a command line program though
[02:01] <vrta> bruenig : yes
[02:01] <Milktea> I don't like x-chat
[02:01] <nullmind> Does anyone know how I can bridge my ethernet to my wireless in Ubuntu?
 wont the machine just switch off if it overheats?? for safetys sake im wondering whether or not i should still be using the comp???....is there anything that can show the different temps
[02:01] <Milktea> I want something like mIRC
[02:01] <bruenig> virta, how?
Naj zanem s tem, da mi beseda &quot;upan&quot; deluje zelo 'ne-slovensko'.<br />
[02:01] <vrta> Resno... u..pan... O_o</p>
Nimam pojma, kdo kandidira na prihajajoih lokalnih volitvah in e sem odkrit, me niti ne zanima, ker mi neka imena ne povejo veliko.<br />
[02:01] <vrta> Dosti raje bi prebral kak spisek predvolilnih obljub zbranih kandidatov.</p>
Nad trenutnim upanom Kamnika nisem ravno navduen, ampak po svoje mu tudi nimam veliko oitati. Vseeno pa me zanima, e obsaja kak bolji kandidat.</p>
[02:01] <vrta> <p align="center"><img src="http://www.miranov.net/vrta/blog/resserver.php?blogId=1&resource=kanta.jpg" style="margin: 5px;" class="res_image" /></p>
[02:01] <Tonren> nozorro: anyway, at this point it's a little faster.  i'm trying to figure out this postfix thing
Po svoje mi je vseeno, kateri stranki pripada kak kandidat. Vseeno mi je tudi, e ima kaka udna naela ali je na splono udak...</p>
... jaz bi volil tistega upana, ki bi po kamniku 'posadil' najve smetnjakov. Ima kdo kak predlog, kako bi mu bilo ime?</p>
[02:01] <bruenig> vrta, stop
[02:01] <vrta> <p align="center">-----</p>
p.s.: Vse feministke naproam, da si besedilo tega posta skopirajo v nek urejevalnik teksta in besedi 'upan' in 'kandidat' zamenjajo z ustreznicami enskega spola. Hvala za razumevanje moje lenobe.</p>
[02:01] <bruenig> !ops
[02:01] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:01] <vrta> OMG!
[02:01] <vrta> sry :/
[02:01] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: it should, though I've seen a few burned out processors where that hasn't happened
[02:01] <Paddy_EIRE> what happen there
 shit
[02:02] <nozorro> Tonren: postfix isn't in defautl ubuntu install anyway i thought
not good
[02:02] <quintin> Paddy_EIRE: It depends on the cpu, but generally it will just hang or shutdown
[02:02] <gok> somebody can tell where i can find ubuntu compatibliy list ?  i would to buy a pci ide controler !
[02:02] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: keep an eye on it that's all
[02:02] <devilz_> what is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, i know kde and gnome anything else?
[02:02] <Milktea> I tried l=LostIRC and x-chat already
[02:02] <Milktea> i dont really like them
[02:02] <erUSUL> gok: i found a solution for your problem...
[02:02] <gok> mee to
[02:03] <erUSUL> gok: you have to boot with all-generic-ide boot option
 i will go get new psu and fans in the mourning....is there some sort of app that could show me the different temperatures
[02:03] <gok> erUSUL: i use "instlux"  <= sourceforge project
curious
[02:03] <gok> erUSUL: where i can find this option  ?
[02:03] <agentCy> anybody know how to compile a kernel with hermes?
[02:03] <erUSUL> gok: good
[02:03] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: don't worry about the PSU fan too much, just the processor fan, I don't recommend poking around inside a PSU
[02:04] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: also, some graphics cards have fans on them
im gonna get a new psu
[02:04] <TEN_> apt-cache search vnc   finds a whole lot more than I can reaonably test. Which version of VNC is recommended, that has a stable and lightweight client, and as a server should ideally be able to export (unlike Xvnc AKA vncserver) what is displayed locally on X (e.g. for remote assistance) ?
im usin radeon no fans
[02:04] <TEN_> +s
[02:04] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: I feel like I've scared you into spending lots of money
 no im buying lots this last while so as to maintain this ubuntu box i love it so much
[02:05] <TEN_> anto9us It's called upselling and one usually gets a raise for it ;-)
[02:06] <anto9us> TEN_: yeah, :)
[02:06] <gok> erUSUL: i go to test this option now !
[02:06] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone recommend a good gui dvd ripper similar to dvd shrink i find dvd::rip to be confusing
[02:07] <Tonren> Can anyone explain why I have to run dhclient eth0 once i log in  now, instead of having it automatically do that?
[02:07] <viator> !xgl
[02:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:07] <erUSUL> gok: with the alternate cd at the boot: promt that you see type all-generic-ide and hit enter
[02:08] <nozorro> Tonren: did you just remove the postfix link or the program too?
 the buzzing is almost constant now I must get this sorted in the mourning
[02:09] <Tonren> nozorro: The program
[02:09] <Tonren> nozorro: I don't think that my automatic configuration problem has anything to do with postfix, though
[02:09] <nozorro> Tonren: why is it installed anyway, postfix i mean
[02:09] <Tonren> nozorro: I have no idea.  I certainly didn't install it.
[02:09] <jared777> Is there a plugin for Firefox to trick web pages inot thinking your using IE?
[02:10] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: would be good to identify what specifically is causing it
[02:10] <Tonren> jared777: You might be able to use the Web Developer extension to change your client header
[02:10] <brendonjt> jared777:yip there sure is
[02:10] <nozorro> Tonren: try going to runlevel 1 and then back to runlevel 2
 there is one if u use windows , although u can try MSIE 6.0 by IEs4Linux
[02:10] <Flannel> jared777: there's a user agent switcher plugin
[02:10] <Tonren> nozorro: I don't know how to do that.
[02:11] <swim> has anyone used virgoftp? I cant figure out how to chmod with this thing!
[02:11] <jared777> I used to have a plugin for it before but i can't find it anymore it was used in windows though
[02:11] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: sorry if this sounds silly, is it still there when cut power to your speakers?
 yeah thats what is bugging me is there a good way of doing this without frying myself
[02:11] <nozorro> Tonren: well, is postfix running still on your machine?
 yep
[02:11] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[02:11] <Tonren> nozorro: Err.. no, I removed the package.  I mean... I guess it could still be running in memory.
[02:11] <nozorro> Tonren: yes indeed
[02:12] <Flannel> jared777: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
[02:12] <Tonren> nozorro: Well, it probably won't be running the next time I reboot since I removed it.  Anyway, I'm trying to figure out this automatic configuration thing, now
 IE tab not for linux
[02:12] <Flannel> Paddy_EIRE: he wanted something to make the server think he was using IE
[02:13] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: touch the very centre of the processor fan (not PSU fan!) just for a second and see if the noise goes, careful of the fan wings though, they can give a little nick and can make you jump a bit
[02:13] <nozorro> Tonren: i'm still wondering why your bootup is so long. what is your hardware? maybe we can pin it down (on the software side)
[02:13] <jbroome> Flannel: user-agent switcher for FF
oh my mistake sry
[02:13] <DigitalNinja> How do I move/rename a file with a "-" in it?
[02:13] <Flannel> jbroome: right, thats the link I gave
[02:13] <Tonren> nozorro: I'm on a Compaq Presario v2565us.  It has a variable-speed AMD Turion 64 1.8GHz processor and 768 megs of RAM.  Integrated ATI Radeon Xpress200M graphics.
[02:13] <drezha> Is there a way in Samba I can have a combo of windows type sharing and logging on sharing?
[02:13] <jwl007|wed_stuff> ahh 27 days til the wedding
[02:13] <Tonren> nozorro: How long is your bootup?
[02:13] <jbroome> doh, sorry.  just came in
[02:13] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: just type the -
[02:14] <DigitalNinja> It's not working
[02:14] <jrib> DigitalNinja: is it the first character?
[02:14] <nozorro> Tonren: about 1min 10 sec or so (rough guess), with a 1Ghz Athlon and 256 MB Ram
[02:14] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: might be something else, you can always tab complete, that'll escape anything needed
[02:14] <devilz_> how good pc do you need to have that xgl works on your linux?
[02:14] <Tonren> nozorro: Huh.  Mine's definitely like two minutes, BARE minimum.
[02:15] <jbroome> i just try not to reboot. :)
k iwill have to do this in the mourning though as my family will kill me if i keep them up with bang crash wollop again ...lol
[02:15] <Tonren> nozorro: Is there a disk defrag utility for linux, or does ext3 not need that?
[02:15] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: hehe
[02:15] <jbroome> Tonren: don't need it
[02:15] <Flannel> Tonren: nope
[02:15] <Paddy_EIRE> does not need defrag
[02:15] <Tonren> swanky
[02:15] <DigitalNinja> jrib: No.  "something - something something something"
[02:15] <TylerDurdener> how can i tell the Select Custom Icon window to show hidden directories?
[02:15] <Tonren> DigitalNinja: You shouldn't need to escape the - at all.
[02:15] <nozorro> Tonren: until recently i run on an athlon 600 Mhz, it booted faster than your's, seriously. defrag, forget it. not needed at all.
[02:15] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: you need to escape the spaces
 right click any folder and choose show hidden
[02:16] <TylerDurdener> thanks Paddy_EIRE
[02:16] <Paddy_EIRE> while ion the cutom icon dialoque
[02:16] <qch> can i compile gnome 2.16 and run it without messing up gnome 2.14 on my computer?
[02:16] <viator> you can stop some services
[02:16] <nozorro> Tonren: you are using ubuntu 6.06?
[02:16] <weed_> alguem ae sabe como adicionar no menu de aplicaes, um launcher pro aterm? eu baixei ele via apt-get mais nao sei onde os arquivos ficam guardados :/
[02:16] <viator> and modules
[02:16] <Flannel> !es
[02:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:16] <viator> from loading at start
[02:16] <Tonren> TylerDurdener: Right click in the file selector field
[02:16] <viator> if you dont need them
[02:16] <anto9us> qch: don't wish to sound rude but if you have to ask that question, probably not :)
[02:16] <Tonren> nozorro: Aye.
[02:16] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: How do I do that?
 i will do just as you say though...it feals terrible i keep saying there there...lol
[02:17] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: \  if you just type and let bash tab complete for you, it'll escape stuff
[02:17] <viator> you can have multiple kernels
[02:17] <viator> yes
[02:17] <nozorro> Tonren: where does the bootpu process take most of the time?
[02:17] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: It's not doing it for me
[02:17] <nozorro> *bootup
[02:17] <qch> anto9us: well, i was thinking of compiling and installing to some place like /opt
[02:17] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: all hardware dies at some point, don't get to sentimental about it, and make regular backups ;)
[02:17] <Tonren> nozorro: You know, that's a good question, and I feel stupid because I've never actually paid attention to which one takes the longest.
[02:17] <eugman> Are Juno and Ubuntu compatible?
[02:17] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: it's case sensitive, so if you start off "Som" instead of "something" you won't get it
[02:18] <nozorro> Tonren: but that would be the first step if you're trying to remove services
[02:18] <jrib> qch: in theory it is possible look at the jhbuild docs in the gnome wiki
[02:18] <Tonren> nozorro: I increased the speed pretty well by removing those 4 or 5
[02:18] <Tonren> I'll bet KDM was taking up a lot of time
[02:18] <nozorro> Tonren: that's what the bootup mesgs. are for (among other things)
[02:18] !lilo:*! Hi all. Services going down briefly in a moment. Apologies for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience!
[02:18] <anto9us> qch: there's a lot of information on the gnome website on how you might acheive what you want, it's heavy and advanced stuff though
 had to contact Targa via email lost the power cable to my 250 gig external drive :( really hope they can sort me out
[02:19] <nozorro> Tonren: it takes too long on your machine. or maybe it's a harddisk thing
[02:19] <Tonren> nozorro: Hmm... I' mnot sure.  I'll have to pay attention the next time I boot
[02:19] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: if you know the required voltage, ampage and polarity, you may have another power supply to match, I have a couple of switchable ones for such situations
[02:20] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: I got it fixed. Had to nfs mount the sare from my file server. Then I was able to rename the file in gnome
[02:20] <qch> anto9us: i'll look into it some more, thanks though :)
[02:20] <nozorro> Tonren: you said you're using ubuntu, now you're saying KDM might be the culprit?
[02:20] <drezha> Is there a way in Samba I can have a combo of windows type sharing and logging on sharing?
[02:20] <Tonren> nozorro: I tried to install kubuntu-desktop and never actually uninstalled KDM
the connector on the external drive is weird lookin it almost looks just like a keyboard connector
[02:21] <Paddy_EIRE> never seen it before
[02:21] <Tonren> nozorro: I've tried to install kubuntu four times, and every time, it has broken everything
[02:21] <nozorro> Tonren: the question is whether you *use* KDM or GDM
[02:21] <fishy> if I buy a wireless mouse, will it work with ubuntu?
[02:21] <eugman> Hey, how do I manage users in the command line?
[02:21] <jrib> fishy: mine does, mx1000
[02:21] <Tonren> nozorro: Oh, I use GDM, but it seemed like KDM was starting too
[02:21] <nozorro> Tonren: hardly
[02:21] <fishy> jrib: http://www.storefrontdesigner.com/users/ThriftyComputer/index.asp?itemid=278
[02:21] <jrib> eugman: manage in what way?  adduser to add users
[02:21] <Tonren> nozorro: Hmm, weird
[02:21] <fishy> jrib: Would that one, you think?
[02:22] <eugman> jrib, what about privileges?
[02:22] <drezha> fishy Using a MS Wirless multimedia keyboard/optical mouse 2 bundle and thats fine
[02:22] <Tonren> gotta run.. adios, guys
[02:22] <nozorro> Tonren: my suspicions are on dhcp and hard disk
[02:22] <jrib> fishy: probably, check the forums to see if there are any other users with it
[02:22] <exs> hello. does ubuntu have "beagle" search?
[02:22] <jrib> eugman: what kind of privileges?
[02:22] !lilo:*! all done, thanks for your help
[02:22] <exs> I'm using ubuntu now, and I know it has a search, but is the search beagle?
 and i really want to back up as i love how well its runnin at the mo
[02:23] <eugman> Actually, all that mainly matters is whether they are in the sudoers file, right?
[02:23] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: dvd not an option?
[02:23] <jrib> exs: you can install beagle
[02:23] !lilo:*! to anyone who couldn't get in for a few moments: we were doing brief maintenance on services; apologies for the inconvenience!
[02:23] <eugman> To distinguish between admins and regular users right?
[02:23] <exs> jrib:  ok.. is it in synaptic?
[02:23] <jrib> !info beagle
[02:23] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1208 kB, installed size 3992 kB
 yeah, i am thinking maybe ill get a pack while out tomorrow
[02:23] <jrib> exs: yes, just make sure you have enabled the universe repository
[02:24] <exs> jrib:  yep.. cheers
[02:24] <T8y8> Hey. I've been using Ubuntu for about 2 months; today I found a tip on the forum to enable 'profile' in boot, to update the boot profile, however, after doing that, I can no longer boot
[02:24] <jrib> eugman: well adduser lets you add users to groups as well.  Any user in the "admin" group gets sudo privileges
[02:24] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: I use a utility called dar, it will compress and slice up the backup files to fit on cd or dvd or whatever
[02:24] <eugman> Ah, ok thanks.
[02:24] <Flamekebab> quick question - I'm running a Sempron 2800 with 1280MB of RAM - how big should my swapfile be, ideally?
[02:24] <knix_> does anyone know when gnome 2.16 will be in dapper?
then i could use dar again afterwards to restore?
[02:24] <T8y8> 128 or 1280? Either way, I run a gig swap
[02:24] <minerale> hah, that was the greatest funny cartoon: --- Guy: make me a sandwitch.  Girl: make it yourself .  Guy: SUDO make me a sandwitch, Girl: OK
[02:24] <jrib> knix_: never
[02:25] <knix_> =-o
[02:25] <T8y8> Ubuntu releases on the gnome release cycle
 can i do "sudo apt-get install dar" ??
[02:25] <viator> 512 mb is fine
[02:25] <knix_> ah
[02:25] <jrib> knix_: it should be in edgy (next release)
[02:25] <T8y8> Any idea for my situation?
[02:25] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: yes and I recommend you go through the process at least once with a test file, a backup is only ever as good as a proven restore
yeah i agree
[02:25] <drezha> minerale - XVCD webcomic? thats great :D
[02:25] <viator> theres suppoesd to be a new backup feature in edgy using dar
[02:25] <mike8901_> does anyone know why qmake says no option -config?
[02:25] <viator> as a backend i guess
[02:26] <knix_> jrib: how stable is edgy?
[02:26] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: yes, that will install it
[02:26] <Flamekebab> 1280
[02:26] <nozorro> mike8901_: could be --config
[02:26] <mike8901_> hm
[02:26] <soccio> Hi, guys
[02:26] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: there's a not too bad KDE frontend to it called kdar
[02:26] <soccio> Hi, girls
[02:26] <jrib> knix_: I haven't upgraded yet, although I will be burning a live cd soon to check it out and consider doing so soon.  The people in #ubuntu+1 might know more
 is there a wiki on backing up as im unsure what i should be going for , i think the "/etc"  directory and my home dir but what else
[02:27] <dtriscuit> how do I add something to my path so I can run it from anywhere? I just compiled my first program from source and I'd like to be able to use it without the full path.
[02:27] <Flamekebab> T8y8, 1280MB, it wasn't a typo
[02:27] <soccio> I need to translate a simple txt file. Is there any software in Ubuntu that could help me?
can it still be used in gnome
[02:27] <T8y8> You probably don't need a swap then :P
[02:27] <jrib> dtriscuit: you could just put a symlink in /usr/local/bin
[02:27] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: /var can be handy, mostly if you run servers of any kind though, web or email for example
[02:27] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[02:27] <viator> i nice backup feature would be to make a disk image or installable iso of your current snapshot
[02:27] <viator> ya think
[02:27] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: yes, KDE apps will work in gnome
 yeah i would love that
[02:28] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: /var/log, /etc, several other /var/directories, depending on your needs. self-compiled sw in /usr/local
[02:28] <Flamekebab> so, again, suggestions for swapfile size, when my system already has 1280MB of RAM
gonna backup everything i think
[02:28] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: no no no
[02:29] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[02:29] <T8y8> fsck hangs at Phase 3 - duplicate block rescan and directory connectedess
[02:29] <anto9us> Flamekebab: about twice your ram isn't a bad rule of thumb
[02:29] <viator> 512 to 1 gb
[02:29] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: you have an install cd?
[02:29] <viator> is what i use
[02:29] <drezha> dtriscuit - Righting a shell script is how I did it. And then put launcher's on the desktop bars
yes
[02:29] <viator> but most my systems are 512
[02:29] <Flamekebab> anto9us, it wasn't a bad rule five years ago, back when 128MB of RAM was common
[02:29] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: and broadband internet?
[02:29] <viator> or less
 yes
[02:29] <Flamekebab> somehow, 2.5GB of swap seems a tad excessive to me
[02:29] <T8y8> Agreed
[02:29] <anto9us> Flamekebab: suspend to HD I think uses the swapfile
[02:29] <Flamekebab> especially when this laptop's hard disk is merely 40GB
[02:30] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: then you don't have to have backups of programs
[02:30] <Flamekebab> anto9us, suspend doesn't work on this laptop anyway
 i heard of get and set although i never got it that day
[02:30] <anto9us> Flamekebab: it might in a few months, you never know :)
 i will note them now
[02:31] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: get and set?
[02:31] <Flamekebab> anto9us, by that time I'll probably have broken this install and be reformatting anyway!
[02:31] <T8y8> Anyone have an idea? I'd really not like to take the windows route and reinstall
[02:31] <BMWodarski> hello all
[02:31] <anto9us> Flamekebab: I agree, it does seem a large chunk, maybe you should just equal your ram
[02:31] <Flamekebab> T8y8, what was the question?
[02:31] <ComputinChuck> hello everyone
[02:31] <BMWodarski> sup chuck
[02:32] <T8y8> I tried to update the boot profile, and now it won't boot into ubuntu
[02:32] <T8y8> hangs on phase 3 of fsck
[02:32] <ComputinChuck> is there a place that documents how all the interal ubuntu stuff works?
[02:32] <ComputinChuck> i.e. how hal in ubuntu does its thing
[02:32] <Flamekebab> anto9us, I was thinking perhaps somewhere in the region of 600MB, but I'm not sure whether that is too little
 yeah dpkg -set--selections >myprogs and dpkg -set--selections
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> or somethin
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> must get the proper way to do it
[02:32] <nozorro> ComputinChuck: yes, the internet :-)
[02:32] <Flamekebab> ComputinChuck, how ubuntu works? Like, ALL of it?
[02:32] <weed_> does anyone her euses dc++ ?
[02:32] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, yea
[02:32] <knix_> jrib: thanks =)
[02:33] <anto9us> Flamekebab: it's not too difficult to resize if you find it isn't
[02:33] <Flamekebab> ComputinChuck, are you new to this?
[02:33] <ComputinChuck> no
[02:33] <Flamekebab> fair enough then
[02:33] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: ah set, you restore your previous package selections. but that doesn't make backups
[02:33] <Flamekebab> I'll leave you be
[02:33] <ComputinChuck> i've been at linux for about 4 years
[02:33] <Flamekebab> it just seemed a rather monumental question!
[02:33] <ComputinChuck> yea
yeah i know i wish it would
[02:33] <ComputinChuck> it is
[02:33] <ComputinChuck> hehe
[02:33] <Flamekebab> well, by the sounds of it you're ready to handle it
[02:33] <ComputinChuck> i'm not very good at ubuntu though
[02:33] <Flamekebab> I almost thought you were fresh out of Windows and curious!
[02:33] <ComputinChuck> i've been using debian/ubuntu for umm...3-4 days
[02:34] <T8y8> *sigh* I'll just whip out the install disk :(
[02:34] <ComputinChuck> i'm a slackware user myself
[02:34] <Flamekebab> Debian-based distros = love
[02:34] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, hehe, not quite
[02:34] <ComputinChuck> hmm
[02:34] <BMWodarski> prior to ubuntu i was gentoo
[02:34] <Flamekebab> I was running Fedora on a server in our office
[02:34] <Flamekebab> but it was a pain in the ass
[02:34] <Paddy_EIRE> was Mandrake
[02:34] <BMWodarski> but then I decided gentoo on a laptop was way the hell to hard
[02:34] <ComputinChuck> i started on redhat 8
[02:34] <ComputinChuck> mandrake, slackware...
[02:34] <ComputinChuck> i've used so many..
[02:34] <Flamekebab> I think I started on RH 7.2
[02:35] <Flamekebab> but I didn't get it working, so gave up on Linux for a year or so
[02:35] <musafir> mandrake, mandriva, suse
[02:35] <viator> my linux  went from mandrake>debian>libranet>ubuntu
[02:35] <ComputinChuck> anyway, is there like a developers guide or the equivalent that talks about how ubuntu really works?
[02:35] <Flamekebab> then tried again with Suse
[02:35] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: i dunno right now, not sure you really need this. but do a search on google, it's surely documented somewhere
[02:35] <BMWodarski> I think I have my bought red hat 6.0 cd's sitting around here somewhere (I was on dial up)
[02:35] <ComputinChuck> hehe
[02:35] <ComputinChuck> i have my 8's
[02:35] <ComputinChuck> back at home
yeah i just want all the progs with configs that i have now but maybe thats askin to much
[02:36] <Flamekebab> I'm so torn as to how big to make my swapfile
[02:36] <Flamekebab> it used to be easy..
[02:36] <Flamekebab> *cries*
[02:36] <weed_> does anyone her euses dc++ ?
[02:36] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, they say twice your ram up to 2GB
 just make it half your ram
[02:36] <ComputinChuck> but i have 1Gb and 512Mb swap
[02:36] <BMWodarski> I happend to come across ubuntu in a linux mag and loved it
[02:36] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: the progs or the info about which are installed. in the former case, you'd just have to back up your entire hard disk
[02:36] <Flamekebab> ComputinChuck, my laptop has 1280MB
[02:36] <BMWodarski> I use dc__ at quake con
[02:37] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, ok, i'd do 512 or something
 i suppose
[02:37] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, i don't swap hardly at all
[02:37] <ComputinChuck> at 1GB
[02:37] <BMWodarski> for me swap=ram
[02:37] <Flamekebab> 512? Or perhaps 400?
[02:37] <Flamekebab> I can't imagine I'd need that much really
 well im enjoying the experiences with each re-install :),.... although i wish to learn to make an almost clone of previous setup
[02:37] <ComputinChuck> BMWodarski, how much ram do you have?
[02:38] <BMWodarski> 1gb
[02:38] <SeNtiX> is it possible to restrict a user to view only his own processes?
[02:38] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, yea, like i said, i've never had more than 20Mb filled in my swap and i don't know why that 20 got filled
[02:38] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: 'dpkg get-selections > myselections' stores the package info in the file myselections ...
[02:38] <sethk> SeNtiX, answer isn't going to change, no matter how many times you ask.  I already told you how that can be done.
[02:38] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: take a note of that
yeah thats it
[02:39] <SeNtiX> nah i found something sethk
[02:39] <SeNtiX> grsecurity
[02:39] <SeNtiX> but i'm looking maybe somebody knows another way
[02:39] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: and then, after reinstalling:
[02:39] <Flamekebab> ComputinChuck, everyone else, should I go with Ext3 as I normally do, or does anyone recommend one of the other FSs?
[02:39] <sethk> SeNtiX,that's just a word.  perhaps it does what I said, perhaps not, but it doesn't change my answer.
[02:39] <SeNtiX> before i go patching my kernel
[02:39] <sethk> SeNtiX, why would you patch the kernel?
[02:39] <SeNtiX> www.grsecurity.com
[02:39] <sethk> SeNtiX, if that's what you found, it's dumb.
[02:39] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, I uses reiser myself.  lots of benchmarks report reiser as very fast, stable all that
[02:40] <ComputinChuck> it's been around a while now
[02:40] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: 'dpkg -set-selections < myselections' restores the package info
[02:40] <Flamekebab> well, I am installing edgy, so I might as well try something edgy
[02:40] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, if you really need the journaling, you'd probably better stay with ext3
[02:40] <hantoo> i dont see the need of me using reiser, so i sticked with ext3
[02:40] <sethk> Flamekebab, there are reported problems with reiser
[02:40] <hantoo> :)
[02:40] <Flamekebab> hmm
[02:40] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: no, dpkg --set ...... not the double-dash
[02:40] <viator> resizerfs is fine nowdays
[02:40] <ComputinChuck> sethk, i've never had a problem with reiser
[02:40] <sethk> reiser advocates say they've been fixed in v4.  but they said that about v3, and before that about v2
[02:40] <viator> unless you want windows to talk to it
[02:41] <ComputinChuck> i've even used reiser4 without a problem
[02:41] <sethk> ComputinChuck, they are infrequent, but that doesn't mean they don't exist
[02:41] <BMWodarski> i've always used ext
 say after i do "get-selections" and one of the packages or more have since been upgraded on the repos will "set selections2 know to pull down the newer ones ???
[02:41] <ComputinChuck> sethk, true
[02:41] <viator> then you should use ext3
[02:41] <sethk> ComputinChuck, reiser4 is better, but all reports
[02:41] <sethk> by all reports, that is
[02:41] <Flamekebab> what about JFS and XFS?
[02:41] <ComputinChuck> sethk, i wish i could get my root fs on it, but none of the installers support it yet...
[02:42] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, XFS is about as fast as reiser, but it's meant more for large files
[02:42] <luisbg> my grub isn't reading the menu.lst, I erased half of the options in the menu.lst and when I reboot grub still shows them as before the edit, very weird
[02:42] <ComputinChuck> it's tweaked more for large file operations
[02:42] <sethk> ComputinChuck, you can do that, but most of the problems I've dealt with are related to using reiserfs as the root partition.
[02:42] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE:  it --get-selections -- newer versions will get onto your systems when you run the package handling app, which ever it is
[02:42] <ComputinChuck> sethk, that's what i've done for a while now...
[02:42] <Flamekebab> any idea when Ext4 is coming?
[02:42] <ComputinChuck> sethk, i think my ubuntu rootfs is actually on ext3 right now..
 jeeze, I love Ubuntu/Linux
[02:43] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: i mistyped a lil bit, look up 'man dpkg' to be sure
[02:43] <sethk> ComputinChuck, the other problem with reiser is that the claims about performance do not prove out in typical file systems, and reiser performance degrades over time.
 nice one
[02:43] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: ... of the correct syntax
[02:43] <ComputinChuck> sethk, typical file systems, what do you mean by that?
[02:44] <ComputinChuck> sethk, how does reiser degrade?
[02:44] <javiolo> just installed enlightenment 0.16 how can I have access to my apps menu ?
yes...aint used win in along time and dont plan to either couldnt be happier with ubuntu
[02:44] <threeseas> seems linuxcnc likes ubuntu
[02:44] <Flamekebab> ubuntu is lovely
[02:44] <asonjay99> how do i change the font color of the aplication font
[02:44] <Flamekebab> our company uses it on two desktops and a server
[02:44] <Flamekebab> along with my personal two laptops
[02:45] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, i'd have to agree...but it seems a little sluggish compared to my slackware system...
[02:45] <phaedrus44> i got my razr v3 plugged in to this puter...now what?
i may even get a testing comp together out of the rubble of other comps about me to try out opensuse ppl sya its not bad
[02:45] <ComputinChuck> but i like how things just work out of the box
[02:45] <Flamekebab> asonjay99, in normal Ubuntu, under gnome?
[02:45] <sethk> ComputinChuck, by typical I mean with a variety of file sizes and types.
[02:45] <viator> id like a nice 10X10 ubuntu sticker for the back of my laptop
[02:45] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: yeah. -- anyway i think keeping the package selection for the next reinstall is a bit of overkill, but that's just me. most reinstalls are upgrades anyway
[02:45] <viator> thatd be cool'
[02:45] <Flamekebab> viator - is that ten centimetres or inches?
[02:45] <sethk> ComputinChuck, the degrading that has been reported has to do, I believe, with increasing fragmentation over time.
[02:45] <asonjay99> flamekebab, yup
[02:45] <viator> inches
[02:45] <viator> lol
[02:45] <Flamekebab> asonjay99, which app?
[02:45] <ComputinChuck> sethk, ah ok
[02:45] <Flamekebab> viator, why lol?
[02:46] <BMWodarski> well i'm headed out i've gotta help a friend with his setup
[02:46] <ComputinChuck> sethk, i haven't seen a defragmenting program for any linux fs
[02:46] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: and with upgrades the selection technique will fail
[02:46] <viator> sorry most americans dont use metric
[02:46] <viator> well
[02:46] <Flamekebab> viator, I have an 18cm long Ubuntu sticker on this laptop
[02:46] <viator> not that often anyway
[02:46] <BMWodarski> oh one question I wanted to ask
[02:46] <asonjay99> flamekebab the top bar things....
[02:46] <Flamekebab> and viator, how was I to know you were from the US?
 so you recommend from scratch almost after reinstall
[02:46] <Flamekebab> asonjay99, try going into System->Preferences->Font
[02:46] <wira1_8> 
[02:47] <viator>  /whois?
[02:47] <viator> dunno
[02:47] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: yes, but not of course if you have many machines to administer
[02:47] <Flamekebab> lol
[02:47] <asonjay99> flamekebob, tryed but there is not thing for font color
[02:47] <Flamekebab> hmm
[02:47] <sethk> ComputinChuck, true, but the other file systems do not suffer from fragmentation
[02:47] <Flamekebab> in that case, I'll pass to someone else
[02:47] <BMWodarski> does anyone know of a way to use a windows mobile device on ubuntu
[02:47] <ComputinChuck> sethk, how do they manage that?
[02:47] <Flamekebab> I wonder if there's anyone with a Ubuntu tattoo
[02:48] <Flamekebab> "Ubuntu 4 life"..
[02:48] <asonjay99> i want to get one of those
yeah, nice one mate Im gonna read the wiki for backup techniques also cheers anyway
[02:48] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, i don't doubt it...someone out there's gotta be hard-core enough
[02:48] <sethk> ComputinChuck, by using algorithms that, essentially, defrag on the fly as files are created, expanded, contracted, deleted, etc.
[02:48] <viator> heheh
[02:48] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: have a look at rdiff and rsync
[02:48] <ComputinChuck> ah ok
[02:48] <BMWodarski> nothing?
[02:48] <Flamekebab> Ubuntu is probably the distro I feel most pasionate about
[02:48] <fishy> I might be buying a wireless mouse ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009N7OL6/ref=olp_product_details/102-8360799-5983319?ie=UTF8 ) but it requires drivers - will I need the drivers, and if I do, do you think I can use the mouse with Ubuntu?
[02:48] <viator> no defraging
[02:48] <Flamekebab> it feels like it's actually going somewhere
[02:48] <viator> its how they place the files
[02:49] <Flamekebab> ooh! ooh! me! me! I have a question about file systems!
[02:49] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: rdiff-backup i wanted to say
[02:49] <sethk> Flamekebab, are you going to tell us the question, or just tell us that you have one?   :)
[02:49] <Flamekebab> sorry, I was checking fishy's link
[02:49] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: dar supports differential backups
gonna try kdar now i did "sudo apt-get install dar kdar"
[02:50] <sethk> Flamekebab, anyway, whatever the question is, the answer is maybe  :)
[02:50] <Flamekebab> I have a 400GB external hard disk, FAT32 - will it fragment with use under Linux? If so, how do I defrag it?
[02:50] <fishy> Do you think they have Ubuntu ported drivers for that mouse?
[02:50] <corfe> I'm a debian unstable user, thinking of switching to Ubuntu. Does Ubuntu have something like this "unstable" version, which updates multiple packages per day?
[02:50] <viator> want to know whay it doesnt need defragging
[02:50] <Flamekebab> fishy, I can't imagine there'd be any problems with it, although I'd rather someone else backed me up on that
[02:50] <viator> http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[02:50] <viator> go there
[02:50] <Flamekebab> viator, I've read it
[02:50] <sethk> fishy, mouse drivers are part of xorg.  go to the xorg site to find out.
[02:50] <corfe> also, how often does the normal version of ubuntu update packages?
[02:51] <viator> it puts it in lamans terms
[02:51] <Flamekebab> but I wondered whether it depends on the filesystem, or the way linux writes to disks
[02:51] <ComputinChuck> does anyone know if there is an in-depth guide to the innerworkings of ubuntu anywhere?
[02:51] <sethk> corfe, it checks periodically, but it doesn't update until you tell it to.
how would i go about getting all the help files for kde based apps
[02:51] <Flamekebab> for example, I understand how I don't need to defrag my laptop's hard disk, which is Ext3
[02:51] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: http://dar.linux.free.fr/ has lots of documentation and scripts
[02:51] <Flamekebab> but what of the FAT32 disk?
[02:51] <viator> with ASCII pictures!
[02:51] <Flamekebab> viator, I've read the bloody article! *laughs*
[02:51] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: I guess most of them are installed alongside the apps
[02:52] <sethk> Flamekebab, vfat, aka fat32, does suffer from fragmentation.  The assumption is that you'll defrag it in windows
[02:52] <viator> :P
[02:52] <asonjay99> so...can anyone help me with my font color torubles?
[02:52] <luisbg> can I use lilo instead of grub in ubuntu?
i wish the amarok manual was there but it aint
[02:52] <corfe> sethk: I mean, if I want to update every day, will I find on average 0, 1, 5, or 30 packages to update per day?
[02:52] <sethk> Flamekebab, the assumption is, if you don't run windows, you won't use vfat as it's inferior in many ways.
[02:52] <fishy> sethk: There isn't much on x.org. :-\
[02:52] <nozorro> ComputinChuck: basically, the source code. especially the ubuntu source packages. and the developer's mailing lists. and so on
[02:52] <Flamekebab> sethk, that's a bit of an annoying assumption
[02:52] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: it may be in the generic KDE helpfile
[02:52] <sethk> corfe, that's difficult to answer because the number of updates is high after a new release and then trends down towards the end of a release's life
[02:52] <ComputinChuck> nozorro, alright, sounds like a crazy job to figure this system out...
[02:52] <Flamekebab> I'll not be using Windows PCs in uni, at least not in my room
 where is that to be found??
[02:52] <corfe> alright
[02:53] <sethk> Flamekebab, I'm just reporting, not defending  :)
[02:53] <Flamekebab> both laptops run linux
[02:53] <Flamekebab> but this hard disk is FAT32
[02:53] <Flamekebab> and I plan on keeping it that way
[02:53] <Flamekebab> because it ensures cross-compatability
[02:53] <Flamekebab> but how do I defrag the silly thing?
[02:53] <nozorro> ComputinChuck: maybe, but the inner workings is not what you need maybe :-)
[02:53] <javiolo> just installed enlightenment 0.16 how can I have access to my apps menu ?
[02:53] <anto9us> Paddy_EIRE: I've no idea, I rarely use any KDE apps
[02:53] <sethk> Flamekebab, the consequences of fragmentation are not really all that dramatic.  don't worry about it unless you actually notice that the performance has changed.
 ill fiqure this out im sure of it anyway, later
[02:54] <nozorro> Flamekebab: you could use windows then to defrag
[02:54] <ComputinChuck> nozorro, i'd really like to know how the big distros accomplish some of the more complicated things that people kind of take for granted
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> later guys cheers for the help
[02:54] <Flamekebab> cheerio Paddy_EIRE
[02:54] <viator> there is a linux tool to defrag thos fat partions
[02:54] <ComputinChuck> nozorro, like volume automounting and so on
[02:54] <fishy> sethk: I can't find mouse drivers on x.org - are there any linux mouse driver sites?
[02:54] <Flamekebab> viator, that's what I like to hear!
[02:54] <sethk> ComputinChuck, it's mostly an incorrect assumption that things are distro specific.  There are details, of course, but the principle things are the same across distros
[02:54] <ComputinChuck> nozorro, i'im having a bad time finding good documentation for these kinds of "under the hood" things
[02:55] <ComputinChuck> sethk, yea, i know, but i haven't found any distro that documents those things very well
[02:55] <sethk> fishy, there must be, since there are drivers for a few things, touchpads, tablets, etc.
[02:55] <Flamekebab> I wonder whether that's a deliberate spelling mistake..
[02:55] <viator> ComputinChuck look towards debian for that
[02:55] <Flamekebab> surely it should be "PathogenX" ?
[02:55] <sethk> ComputinChuck, that's largely true.
[02:55] <nozorro> ComputinChuck: if it doesn't work, ask a specific question here on in the forums, or file a bug report. but ubuntu isn't a top-down organisation like , say, Microsoft
[02:55] <sethk> ComputinChuck, I've not seen a comprehensive one that is accurate.  Maybe you can start one.
[02:55] <fishy> sethk: I can't find a "drivers" page.
[02:55] <Captain_Redbeard> This might not be the righ tplace to ask, but does anybody have experience with WoW under wine?
[02:55] <ComputinChuck> sethk, i really like the splashscreens and so on, but no one talks about how they did it
[02:55] <administrator> ComputinChuck: did you check the wine appdb?
[02:56] <administrator> Captain_Redbeard: *
[02:56] <ComputinChuck> sethk, i'd love to start one, but i don't know how to start.  i dont' really know how to do these things either!
[02:56] <viator> ComputinChuck that stuff can be found on the forums and some on wiki
[02:56] <Captain_Redbeard> Hehe, I even used to work for Blizzard ;)
[02:56] <fishy> sethk: I also can't figure out what this mouse is called: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009N7OL6/ref=olp_product_details/102-8360799-5983319?ie=UTF8 :: it says "cordless mini optical mouse," but doesn't logitech give its mice names like "mx100," etc.
[02:56] <administrator> Captain_Redbeard: http://appdb.winehq.org << did you look there?
[02:56] <Flamekebab> I got my name from Starcraft
[02:56] <fishy> ?
[02:56] <sethk> fishy, let me look at the url
[02:57] <Flamekebab> fishy, Logitech do both
[02:57] <Flamekebab> I have an MX700
[02:57] <Flamekebab> BUT
[02:57] <sethk> fishy, I use two different cordless logitech mice in linux without special drivers
[02:57] <Captain_Redbeard> administrator: yeah, I'ts booting and all, it's just that it freezes and gives me a black screen directly after logging in
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, the bluetooth one?
[02:57] <Flamekebab> ComputinChuck, nope
[02:57] <Flamekebab> but wireless
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> ah
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> yea
[02:57] <Flamekebab> doesn't use BT
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> the BT is MX900
[02:57] <Flamekebab> I'm not a big fan of BT
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> i'm looking at that one
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> i have a BT adapter in my laptop
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> but nothing to use it with
[02:57] <Flamekebab> I paid 40 for that mouse
[02:57] <sethk> Captain_Redbeard, you can certainly ask here, but a wine specific site is probably a better bet for finding an answer
[02:57] <Flamekebab> worth every penny
[02:57] <fishy> sethk: Then I'll go ahead and buy it, I think it will work.
[02:57] <ComputinChuck> ouch
[02:58] <Flamekebab> nah, it was well worth it
[02:58] <ComputinChuck> yea
[02:58] <Flamekebab> it's a wonderful mouse
[02:58] <sethk> fishy, I'll look at the url, see if it's one of the ones I use, if you can wait a moment.
[02:58] <Flamekebab> I've had it for years
[02:58] <ComputinChuck> lots of people say great things about that one
[02:58] <Flamekebab> other mice have come and gone
[02:58] <Wicked_> someone, I have a problem with dual screens, everything is centered, so it makes it really weird due to the break between my monitors, anyone know how to fix that? I used this HowTo
[02:58] <Wicked_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[02:58] <Captain_Redbeard> sethk: Yea I know... just thought I'd try here since it could have something to do with the ubuntu package
[02:58] <Flamekebab> "but ma' mx700 stays eternal"
[02:58] <sethk> Captain_Redbeard, it could
[02:58] <ComputinChuck> i just don't want to have to carry around a receiver on top of my mouse..
[02:58] <ComputinChuck> that's why i like the BT idea
[02:58] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, haha
[02:59] <Flamekebab> laptops and wireless mice = annoyance
[02:59] <Flamekebab> at least from my PoV
[02:59] <sethk> fishy, that looks _almost_ identical to one of mine.  Mine has the USB plug in, like that one, only it's end isn't rounded.  I think it's a very good bet that it will work without problems.
[02:59] <Flamekebab> I hate changing batteries
[02:59] <sethk> fishy, but it isn't certain.
[02:59] <ComputinChuck> Flamekebab, true..
[02:59] <Flamekebab> which is why I love my dock
[02:59] <sethk> Flamekebab, I have one rechargeable.  However, my newer battery one is much smarter about preserving the battery
[02:59] <Flamekebab> because it's a charger
[02:59] <Flamekebab> and I've not changed the batteries in my MX700
[02:59] <sethk> Flamekebab, if I forget to put my mouse in the doc, and it discharges, then I have to wait.
[02:59] <Flamekebab> EVER
[02:59] <sethk> Flamekebab, of course, the answer is, don't forget  :)
[03:00] <Flamekebab> my mouse saves its juice
[03:00] <sethk> Flamekebab, I've been very happy with my rechargeable also
[03:00] <Flamekebab> I've owned it for 3 - 4 years I think
[03:00] <cafuego> The MX700 is shiny
[03:00] <Flamekebab> and it's been used a LOT
[03:00] <ComputinChuck> awesome
[03:00] <ComputinChuck> yea
[03:00] <Flamekebab> come to think of it, I think I'll bring the damn thing to uni
[03:00] <Flamekebab> I love that mouse
[03:00] <ComputinChuck> does't it have a docking station?
[03:00] <Flamekebab> yep
[03:00] <ComputinChuck> and NiMH batteries?
[03:00] <Flamekebab> I think so, yes
[03:00] <cafuego> All I need is for Xorg to not shit itself when using evdev as mouse driver.
[03:00] <ComputinChuck> you don't have to change those ;) they recharge
[03:00] <cafuego> ComputinChuck: Yes.
[03:00] <viator> omg i just tested this gyration wirless kb and mouse thats been in one of my harware boxes (piles) and it works!
[03:01] <Flamekebab> it could do with a new set in the vague future
[03:01] <Flamekebab> but it's still going strong
[03:01] <ComputinChuck> yea
[03:01] <dk06> season premiere of family guy just strated
[03:01] <Flamekebab> wireless kbs are good
[03:01] <cafuego> ComputinChuck: Provided you rememebr to put the mouse back on the changer at night ;-)
[03:01] <Flamekebab> they don't suck a lot of juice
[03:01] <eternalswd> is there a program to search the windows network?
[03:01] <ComputinChuck> cafuego, haha, true
[03:01] <Wicked_> anyone have experience with dual screens?
[03:01] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmmm... is it just me or is Xorg running composite and using KDEs fancy window decorations leaking IMMENSE over time?
[03:01] <chowdaryharsha> hi
[03:01] <Flamekebab> Wicked_, unfortunately not
[03:01] <ComputinChuck> Wicked_, only bad ones for me...sorry
[03:01] <Flamekebab> hi, chowdaryharsha
[03:02] <chowdaryharsha> can any one tell me how to install win32 codecs
[03:02] <Flamekebab> cafuego, I don't put mine in its dock
[03:02] <cafuego> Captain_Redbeard: Yes, but that's a know issue in Xorg.
[03:02] <Wicked_> alright
[03:02] <ComputinChuck> Wicked_, i've seen it done though..i just haven't played with it much
[03:02] <Captain_Redbeard> cafuego: ah goodie...
[03:02] <Wicked_> well, anyone know what would cause a dual screen to make everything cenetered?
[03:02] <nozorro> chowdaryharsha: wait a sec. please, i'l give you a link with info
[03:02] <Flamekebab> rabies?
[03:02] <ComputinChuck> Wicked_, how do you mean?
[03:02] <Wicked_> it treats it as one big screen
[03:02] <viator> latr
[03:02] <Flamekebab> well that certainly felates monkey wang
[03:03] <chowdaryharsha> nozorro, ok
[03:03] <Wicked_> so when I maximize, it stretches everything out
[03:03] <ComputinChuck> Wicked_, so it's cut down the middle?
[03:03] <sethk> Wicked_, I believe there is a config option for that.
[03:03] <Flamekebab> I have a sick mind, "so when I maximize, it stretches everything out" sounds so wrong to me..
[03:03] <Captain_Redbeard> cafuego: have you got a link t an Xorg bug central?
[03:03] <ComputinChuck> Wicked_, yea, you have to set up both monitors as a separate screen
[03:04] <Wicked_> I believe I did that :/
[03:04] <sethk> Wicked_, my dual head doesn't behave that way.  are you using xinerama?
[03:04] <cafuego> Captain_Redbeard: nope...
[03:04] <cafuego> Captain_Redbeard: I'll check with daniels tone later ;-)
[03:04] <Wicked_> I used this tutorial
[03:04] <Wicked_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[03:04] <Captain_Redbeard> cafuego: :D
[03:05] <LuisMendes> how can I make the "glxgears" tool show me the FPS?
[03:05] <Flamekebab> I wonder if anyone will start selling linux laptops at a reasonable price in the UK
[03:05] <nozorro> chowdaryharsha: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[03:05] <cafuego> LuisMendes: Run it with the '-iacknowledgethathistoolisnotabenchmark' option.
[03:05] <Flamekebab> I've finally acquired a laptop with suspend support
[03:05] <chowdaryharsha> nozorro, thank u very much
[03:05] <Flamekebab> and found a PCMCIA card that doesn't crash the system
[03:05] <nozorro> chowdaryharsha: welcome
[03:05] <corfe> LuisMendes: Just let it run for like 5 seconds, then it'll spit it out at the commandline
[03:05] <djperegrin1> where is teh hotplug firmware directory ?
[03:06] <corfe> LuisMendes: (run it from an x terminal)
[03:06] <LuisMendes> corfe, that's what should happen, but nothing is shown
[03:06] <Flamekebab> PathagenX, I'm curious, is your name an intentional typo?
[03:06] <PathagenX> indeed
[03:06] <Flamekebab> fair enough then
[03:06] <Flamekebab> it's been preying on my mind
[03:06] <Flamekebab> like a fox
[03:06] <ComputinChuck> djperegrin1, there's a firmware directory at /lib/firmware i think
[03:06] <Flamekebab> no, wait, that's me
[03:06] <corfe> LuisMendes: I'm stumped then, heh
[03:07] <LuisMendes> corfe, yeah me too, I thought there was a special option.. but it seems no
[03:07] <searayman> how do i install an x11 mouse theme on gnome?
[03:07] <eugman> What's an upstream developer?
[03:08] <cafuego> searayman: Drag the theme package onto the Themes control panel.
[03:08] <cafuego> searayman: ... and watch in amazement.
[03:08] <searayman> cafuego: so go to system>theme
[03:08] <eternalswd> is there a way to browse windows network from the terminal?
[03:09] <searayman> cafuego:  ok i put it in there how do i enable that mouse theme?
[03:09] <nozorro> eugman: a developer responsible for the program at it's source, from where ubuntu took it
[03:10] <searayman> cafuego:  i applied it and it took of my top gnome bar!!!!!!
[03:10] <eugman> So is it usually Upstream -> Debian -> Ubuntu ?
[03:10] <sethk>  eternalswd you mean get into an already mounted directory, or look for directories that can be mounted?
[03:10] <searayman> cafuego:  and the mouse didnt change
[03:10] <eugman> actually nevermind that one.
[03:10] <searayman> cafuego:  and i cant get the gnome panel back!!!!!!
[03:10] <eternalswd> sethk, look for directories that can be mounted
[03:10] <nozorro> eugman: debian might itself be considered upstream from ubuntu's perpective. it depends
[03:11] <chowdaryharsha> nozorro, its not coming
[03:11] <cafuego> searayman: Now it's available in the temes section of the mouse control panel.
[03:11] <Flamekebab> oh dear gods, they're watching American football together in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:11] <cafuego> s/temes/pointers/
[03:11] <searayman> cafuego:  it opned a message and said do u want to apply and i did but i lost my gnom epanel!!
[03:11] <nozorro> chowdaryharsha: you copied the command correctly? preferably do it with the mouse
[03:11] <sethk> eternalswd, I believe there is.  Let me see if I can find it.
[03:11] <Flamekebab> right, now to resume my battle with the evil Kino fairies
[03:12] <chowdaryharsha> ya...the site is not opening
[03:12] <Flamekebab> cheerio, all
[03:12] <nozorro> chowdaryharsha: maybe it will later. it did for me not too many days ago
[03:12] <voici> hi, i have got a problem with my ubuntu installation. i somehow changed something. the kernel isn't able to load modules anymore.
[03:12] <voici> my /var/log/messages says directly after booting
[03:12] <voici> Loaded 23037 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.15-26-386
[03:12] <voici> Symbols match kernel version 2.6.15
[03:12] <voici> No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled
[03:13] <sethk> eternalswd, smbtree
[03:13] <chowdaryharsha> nozorro, ok thank u
[03:13] <chowdaryharsha> nozorro, is there any alternate way??
[03:13] <voici> i think i did a ldconfig a while before thinbgs went bad. any way to fix it?
[03:13] <sethk> voici, that message has nothing to do with ldconfig
[03:13] <eternalswd> sethk, thanks a bunch
[03:13] <voici> ok thats good
[03:13] <sethk> voici, that's kernel modules and symbols, a different thing altogether
[03:13] <exs> Now that I've installed beagle, how do I gain access to it?
[03:14] <sethk> voici, my guess is that you somehow installed a new kernel but didn't install it's modules.
[03:14] <voici> i think i didn't
[03:14] <voici> only update was a new compiz about 2 hours ago
[03:14] <voici> after that i tried to mount shares via samba
[03:15] <sethk> voici, do lsmod.  does it list anything?
[03:15] <voici> that failed saying: kernel got not smbfs module or something similar
[03:15] <voici> after the next reboot i got no drivers at all, no mouse, no network, no sound, you name it...
[03:15] <sethk> voici, it says you have a module/kernel mismatch, and it won't install any drivers.
[03:15] <nozorro> chowdaryharsha: yes. you might google for a deb package and install that. or a tgz package and install it in /usr/local/libs/codecs, with two links from the latter, one to /usr/lib/codecs, another one to /usr/lib/win32
[03:15] <sethk> voici, try reinstalling the kernel image you are running.
[03:16] <chowdaryharsha> nozorro, thanks
[03:16] <voici> ok
[03:16] <voici> like dkpg --reconfigure linux-kernel-2.6.15-26-386 ?
[03:16] <nozorro> chowdaryharsha: but i would advise against that if you don't feel confident with linux. better wait until the server is up if not
[03:16] <sethk> voici, not reconfigure, reinstall
[03:16] <sris> Does anyone know what i should be looking for if i want to enable what's called "Theatre mode" in Catalyst, the setting GUI for ati cards?
[03:16] <mike-digiport-> How do I Install .deb packages
[03:17] <jrib> !deb
[03:17] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:17] <lamb_> im trying to SUDO UPDATE-ALTERNATIVE --CONFIG XORG, what am i typing wrong??
[03:17] <jrib> lamb_: try lowercase
[03:17] <jrib> lamb_: and xserver-xorg
[03:17] <mike-digiport-> ok, how do I install it via console
[03:17] <root_> how do you close a window in irssi
[03:17] <jrib> lamb_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:18] <voici> sethk: thanks. i don't have the cdrom deb in my /apt/sources.list anymore, can you give me a hint how to add it again?
[03:18] <Captain_Redbeard> ermz... retarded issue... I "accidently" removed a line from /etc/hosts and saved... now sudo wont work... what to do?
[03:18] <jrib> mike-digiport-: sudo dpkg -i
[03:18] <lamb_> haha im doing lowercase, but i'll try the other thing you mentioned
[03:18] <jrib> root_: /wc
[03:18] <Merovingian> lol
[03:18] <sethk> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-kernel...........
[03:19] <sethk> voici, sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-kernel...........
[03:19] <jrib> lamb_: wait, actually what are you trying to do?  Because I may have told you something else...
[03:19] <Captain_Redbeard> anyone?
[03:19] <sethk> voici, if it complains, tell us.
[03:19] <fishy> thanks sethk, I'll probably buy it, I'm fairly sure it's going to work
[03:19] <sethk> Captain_Redbeard, what?  you deleted a line from /etc/hosts.  you can put it back in with an editor.
[03:19] <lamb_> jrib: im following a guide on how to install aiglx on dapper, and it says: sudo update-alternative --config Xorg
[03:19] <jrib> Captain_Redbeard: choose recovery mode from the grub menu when you boot up and put it back
[03:19] <sethk> fishy, I think so as well, but it isn't my money, so I can say that for free.  :)
[03:19] <Captain_Redbeard> sethk: no because I can't sudo :p
[03:20] <Captain_Redbeard> jrib: grr... I have to reboot?
[03:20] <jrib> lamb_: oh, I don't know then.  Try #ubuntu-xgl
[03:20] <lamb_> jrib: but i get: sudo: update-alternative: command not found
[03:20] <fishy> sethk: Good point. Maybe I'll get it for my birthday. :D
[03:20] <voici> it's linux-imagexxxx, not linux-kernelxxxx  right?
[03:20] <sethk> Captain_Redbeard, then do what jrib suggested, or boot the livecd and mount the partition and do it that way.
[03:20] <jrib> lamb_: it's update-alternatives
[03:20] <lamb_> jrib: thanks
[03:20] <Captain_Redbeard> Yea... that I could figure... just hate to reboot :(
[03:20] <sethk> fishy, I've not had a problem with any logitech usb mouse, and I have five different models.  I really doubt you'll have any issues.
[03:21] <hadi> i want program like captivate on windoz: this program take moveable screen shot and export .gif and .swf
[03:21] <nozorro> fishy: logitech trackballs also have worked always for me
[03:21] <mribas> alberto
[03:22] <ComputinChuck> are we still talking about mice??
[03:22] <voici> sethk: ok i reinstalled it. now just reboot?
[03:22] <ComputinChuck> hehe
[03:22] <Merovingian> I can access my SATA drive through Ubuntu 5.10's "Disk Manager" and even browse the existing NTFS partition, it also lists the unpartitioned space, but fdisk wont access /dev/sda? (it gives the error: Unable to open /dev/sda)
[03:22] <hadi> :(
[03:22] <jrib> hadi: byzanz
[03:22] <Merovingian> I'm trying to recover a lost NTFS partition within that unpartitioned space
[03:22] <mribas> luis alberto
[03:22] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys me again
[03:22] <hadi> thx
[03:23] <nozorro> Merovingian: try cfdisk as an alternative
[03:23] <mribas> kisbelllllllllllll
[03:24] <djm62> anto9us: thanks a lot for your help, found the right bug at at last (#40125) and added my info to the list
[03:24] <Merovingian> nozorro: cfdisk wont access it either
[03:24] <Merovingian> Disk Manager shows it as /dev/sda though
[03:24] <nozorro> Merovingian: hmmm
[03:24] <anto9us> djm62: np mate, well done :)
[03:24] <gimmulf> How do i set swedish characters in terminal on a remote machine which i've ssh:ed too? (the machine hasnt got X and its running Debian, tried for 4 hours and have asked in #debian/other channels + google, im running ubuntu on my desktop machine which im using now and ssh:ing from so thought i could ask here now)
[03:25] <voici> sethk: cool it works again. thankyou very mouch. any idea what might have caused it? nothing to do with ldconfig you said....!?
[03:25] <sethk> Merovingian, use sudo fdisk
[03:25] <sethk> voici, right.  ldconfig is related to shared libraries, the .so files in /lib, /usr/lib, etc.
[03:25] <voici> any idea what could have caused it?
[03:25] <nozorro> Merovingian: i'm not sure about a 'lost NTFS partition within that unpartitioned space'  though
[03:25] <sethk> voici, this problem is related to kernel symbols.  the modules (in /lib/modules) must be available for the running kernel.
[03:25] <voici> too strange
[03:25] <sethk> voici, I have no idea.
[03:25] <Merovingian> sethk: That worked, *blush* thanks.
[03:25] <ristretto> has anyone in here had MTRR issues on the recent kernel builds, esp. with fglrx?
[03:25] <sethk> voici, indeed, strange.
[03:26] <voici> well, still *extremely* happy that it's working. thanks man
[03:26] <Merovingian> nozorro: How would I recover a lost NTFS partition?
[03:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Im getting TalkTalk broadband in in the next couple of weeks they normally use usb modems which i will nto be buying from them instead im buying a linksys.  when they are installed on a windows comp it shows up as an ISDN connection in internet connections it also requires connecting and signing in with username and password and im not sure of the other requirements? Will configuring this be straight forward in ubuntu
[03:27] <Paddy_EIRE>  with the linksys
[03:27] <nozorro> Merovingian: you wouldn't i guess. or maybe yes, with forensic tools. i'm not sure
[03:27] <sethk> Merovingian, if all that has been lost is the partition table, you can use fdisk to set the beginning and ending cylinders and the type of the partition, and it will come back.
[03:27] <sethk> Merovingian, if you really did lose it, that's a whole different thing.  that is write over it's data, not only the mbr
[03:27] <jared777> thanks for the tip guys though it seems a bit wrong to have an Internet Explorer Icon on my desktop in Ubuntu
[03:28] <Merovingian> sethk: Yeah I only deleted it in the fdisk utilty on Win XP's setup disk
[03:28] <Merovingian> sethk: So I wanna redefine the NTFS partition
[03:28] <gfxstyler> hi
[03:28] <gfxstyler> is there an ubuntu-xgl irc channel?
 yep
[03:29] <andyhill> i need help trying to get my audio playing via IEC958.
[03:29] <gfxstyler> Paddy_EIRE, whats its name?
 /join #ubuntu-xgl
[03:29] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: make sure there's a usb driver beforehand, use ethernet if at all possible
[03:29] <gfxstyler> pablo_uy, oh, okay :)
[03:30] <Merovingian> sethk: How precise dooes the starting and ending cylinder values be?
 there is no linux usb driver for there modems and they dont support linus
[03:30] <Merovingian> *have to
[03:30] <Paddy_EIRE> *linus
[03:30] <Paddy_EIRE> *linux...lol
[03:30] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: nice typo :-)
[03:30] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[03:31] <andyhill> :( okay
[03:31] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: they *have* no usb driver or you think so?
[03:31] <netcatc> hello all
 they dont
 they have no linux usb driver
[03:31] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: can the modem be connected via ethernet?
[03:31] <reter> how do you upload java to ubuntu hoary?
 and they only provide drivers for Mac and windows
[03:32] <sethk> Merovingian, 100% precise
[03:32] <Merovingian> That's the tricky part :/
[03:32] <sethk> Merovingian, if it's the first partition, you know where it starts, so that's half the battle
[03:32] <sethk> Merovingian, if the know where the second partition starts, you know where the first one ends.
[03:33] <netcatc> what the plugin I install for dvd
 i will be unable to troubleshoot this on the day as i will have no net until either i use windows or i can configure the linksys to connect in some way
[03:33] <netcatc> someone kwon
[03:34] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: what's your answer to my question :-)
[03:34] <shoob> anyone know how i can access network tools
 there modems are crappy little usb only modems
 im buying the linksys on anothers reccommendation
 also from here
[03:35] <Merovingian> Device /dev/sda1: starting cylinder 2, ending cylinder 3824. But, what does "W95 Ext'd (LBA)" (under "[File]  System") mean?
[03:35] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: that's very very bad, look around what local linux users have to say about this. -- also buy linux supported hardware only :-)
[03:35] <sethk> Merovingian, that's an extended partition in which virtual partitions are created
[03:35] <Merovingian> Device /dev/sda2 starts at 3825 and ends at 9728.
 apparently linksys are the boys to use
[03:36] <Merovingian> Ah okay, that explains the /dev/sda5 which also runs from 2 to 3824
[03:36] <sethk> Merovingian, if you have an extended partition, other partitions (hda5 and above) will have starting and ending cylinder numbers inside the extended partition
[03:36] <sethk> Merovingian, yes, indeed.
[03:36] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: also look up the orig. maker of the modem for driver support
[03:36] <Merovingian> So, that's my listing, and I deleted one of those partitions, yet both /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 are labelled as NTFS.
 they dont have linux drivers i have been looking this up months in advance then i settled with buying a linksys now i got last minute panic
[03:38] <sethk> Merovingian, post the entire thing to the paste web site.
 i really dont want to re-install windows just for there service
[03:38] <Paddy_EIRE> and have no net in ubuntu
[03:38] <Paddy_EIRE> :(
[03:38] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: this happen's :-| again ask local linux users
 not an option im on my own
[03:38] <Merovingian> sethk: Hold on.
[03:39] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: remember few people in this channel will be from Eire or wherever you are :-)
 e.g. i find a guide that tells me to do this that and the other to get the modem workng then the guide mentions downloading XXX of the repos how can i do this with no net
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> and an uncertanty that it will work
[03:40] <orga> Can anyone tell me where to fine either a repository or a .deb file for NVU ?
 what is isdn anyway
[03:40] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: try to figure out beforehand as much as possible.
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> should it really be a major problem
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> have
[03:41] <f4t4l`> hello
[03:41] <f4t4l`> Can i get some help please?
[03:41] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISDN
[03:41] <f4t4l`> Anyone? help?
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> thats why im back here asking the isdn question as its not xDSL these things i know little if not nothing about
[03:42] <f4t4l`> Can someone help me with Dual booting Ubuntu please?
[03:42] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: ah but how should i now it's isdn?
 just thought it was weird to have a broadband connection in the same box in windows that a dialup connection would go??
[03:42] <fuoco> question: if I have both a CDR and DVDR drives in my PC where should I connect each in terms of Primary/Secondary Maser/Slave? (I understand these both should go to Master, but there's already my HDD in primary master...)
 i mean what is ISDN
[03:42] <f4t4l`> I have the 6.06.1 CD and i wanna duel boot on my master and have both Ubuntu/Windows on the master and storage on the slave...
[03:43] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: scroll up pls. , i gave you a link
[03:43] <[MuadDib] > Anyone familiar with Dell's system restore partitions (Ghost Images) and dual booting ubuntu?
 k
[03:43] <f4t4l`> Can someone please PM me?
[03:44] <f4t4l`> ?
[03:44] <Kenobi> hello
 oh by the way EIRE = Ireland
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[03:44] <f4t4l`> Can someone PM me with help?
[03:44] <eff> Kenobi, hello
[03:44] <f4t4l`> Eff?
[03:44] <f4t4l`> Could you help?
[03:44] <Merovingian> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23103
[03:44] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: i know :-) just 'Paddy' would have been enough though :-)
[03:44] <Kenobi> Only me one passanger, and no questions aksed.
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[03:45] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: can you identify the device that they will give you?
[03:46] <exs> How do I launch beagle now that I've installed it?
[03:46] <eff> f4t4l`, say!!
one is a speedtouch and the other is by samsung, i have bought the linksys is not from them
[03:47] <f4t4l`> Wow
[03:47] <f4t4l`> this channel is hecktic
[03:47] <f4t4l`> Can someone help?
[03:47] <eff> f4t4l`, a lot of talking yes...
[03:47] <f4t4l`> I know
[03:47] <f4t4l`> haha
[03:47] <TehUni> i have a 3 monitor setup. Currently i'm using xinerama and it's sloooow. Would it be possible to use twinview for the first 2 monitors, then a seperate X session for the 3rd? The 3rd monitor is for my XP VM, so it doesnt matter if i cant move the windows around
[03:47] <f4t4l`> Alright
[03:47] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: i need very exact model id of the device that you'll be trying to install, in order to help you
[03:47] <f4t4l`> oh gawd
[03:48] <f4t4l`> Ok
[03:48] <f4t4l`> listen up someone
[03:48] <f4t4l`> :] 
[03:48] <f4t4l`> I have a slave and a master... I wanna have the master hold my OS's and my slavew for storage... Right?
[03:49] <f4t4l`> ...
[03:49] <zparta> f4t4l`: i would recommend that :)
would it not be handy if i showed you the linksys its a http://www.ariapc.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=22077
[03:49] <f4t4l`> But how?
[03:49] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: now lemme check
[03:49] <f4t4l`> Will it be really easty to figure out?
[03:49] <tjb891> i just noticed there is no grammer check in open office, is this true
[03:49] <f4t4l`> When im in the install menu
[03:50] <f4t4l`> Will it ask if i want to dual boot and whch drive?
[03:50] <f4t4l`> and will i dont know how to partition and stuff
[03:50] <ShdwShinobi> Hello, I'm having problems installing such programs as tvtime and mythtv due to errors with themselves. Does anyone know of a simple TV application I can use?
[03:50] <f4t4l`> Im having problems too
[03:51] <f4t4l`> >:O
[03:51] <Merovingian> sethk: How do I redefine /dev/sda5 as a NTFS partition, even though it is already listed as a NTFS volume in fdisk? [http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23103] 
[03:51] <f4t4l`> I should just call my friend's dad.
[03:51] <levander> I'm about to run a program that's going to download a bunch of files in a specific directory.  Is there any easy way to figure out what files have been added?  It might modify a couple of files, and I'd like to see those to.
[03:51] <ShdwShinobi> f4t4l`, what do you need?
[03:51] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[03:52] <f4t4l`> hi
[03:52] <laura> hey
 here is one of there modems that an x mate of mine had with the same service http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.themad-house.co.uk/sagem-usb/images/Fast_800_03_small.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.themad-house.co.uk/sagem-usb/sagem-specification.html&h=148&w=277&sz=18&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=R_HtGH64R5KQwM:&tbnh=61&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3DUSB%2BSAGEM%2B800%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN alth
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> ough it never worked on the ubuntu install so she ended up back with windows:(
[03:52] <asonjay99> how do i get the theme manager in gnome
[03:52] <wubrgamer> so i would like to poll personal opinion here
[03:52] <rayston> is there a way to retrieve my password if I forgot it?
[03:52] <wubrgamer> what is the best file system for an external hard disk ? mostly mp3's
[03:53] <nigel> Hey
[03:53] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: just wait a bit, still reading ...
[03:53] <nigel> Is there a way to have my wireless automatically reconnect upon disconnection.
[03:53] <asonjay99> how do i get the theme manager in gnome
[03:54] <nigel> asonjay
[03:54] <diego_cl> guest account = nobody  <--- thats from Samba config file... it mean that guest's are not allowed ?!
[03:54] <dk06> asonja: system>prefrences>theme
[03:54] <nigel> System -> Preferences -> Themes
[03:54] <wubrgamer> anyway, best file system for an external hard disk ?
[03:54] <FCTE> fat32
[03:54] <asonjay99> yeah but isnt there a manager thingy that had everything....
[03:54] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: listening?
[03:54] <nigel> I agree FCTE
[03:54] <asonjay99> im looking for a way to change the font color and i cant find it
[03:55] <ShdwShinobi> Does anyone know of a simple to install program that lets you watch TV?
[03:55] <wubrgamer> why fat32 ?
[03:55] <nigel> Because linux can natively write on it..
 above i dont want to flood to much didnt realize the link was so big oops
[03:55] <FCTE> when I format mine in fat32 fstab sees them and boots them with my system, otherwise in ext3 I have to manually mount them.
[03:56] <nigel> Thats nice too
[03:56] <nigel> lol
[03:56] <wubrgamer> you have to mount your ext3's ?
[03:56] <wubrgamer> hmm
[03:56] <wubrgamer> thank you
[03:56] <Vratha> hello
[03:56] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: the first one you gave me (linksys) has ethernet ports and thus should be no problem. maybe the *setup* must be made from windows (due to isp shoving windows down your throat) but that can be circumvented in most cases. -- anyway you said it was going to be isdn?
[03:56] <Vratha> any of you guys have VLC or mplayer working with DVDs?  when i do something like "vlc /dev/dvd", libdvdread returns this error: libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[03:56] <FCTE> fat32 is also should you gasp, need to transfer files to a Windows box
[03:56] <FCTE> *nice
[03:57] <winston> I keep getting the same error when I try to install anything: msttcorefonts
[03:57] <Vratha> i've had them working on ubuntu before, but i can't remember what pakcage to install
[03:57] <nigel> Does anyone know how to get my wireless to reconnect automatically upon disconnection ?
[03:58] <FCTE> winston, you can use automatix to install the font package
[03:58] <dk06> your router should automatically reconnect you] 
[03:58] <fuoco> question: if I have both a CDR and DVDR drives in my PC where should I connect each in terms of Primary/Secondary Maser/Slave? (I understand these both should go to Master, but there's already my HDD in primary master...)
[03:58] <dk06> or you may have to update your router firmware
[03:58] <winston> FCTE Allright I'll try that
[03:58] <FCTE> winston, here is the link
[03:58] <Homer> I have a really bad screen flicker
[03:58] <nigel> dko6 : My router doesn't like linux.
[03:59] <Homer> what could that be
[03:59] <dk06> fuoco, put your hard drive on your secondary
[03:59] <FCTE> winston, http://www.getautomatix.com/
[03:59] <jikanter> fuoco: make the dvdr master
[03:59] <jikanter> so you can boot linux from cd
[03:59] <ShdwShinobi> When I launch Xawtv, my screen comes up black. Why is that?
 yeah well it is broadband but in a windows user i knows pc it comes up in the internet connections window as isdn where normally dialup connections are, when her comp is switched on she needs to click connect on the desktop
[03:59] <Merovingian> Can anyone help me retain my lost NTFS partition (dev/sda5)? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23103
[03:59] <winston> FCTE thanks, I'm already on it
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> which shows talktalks logo and username and password
[04:00] <asonjay99> anyone know how to chnage the font color of the top menu bar thing in gnome
[04:00] <FCTE> winston, no problem
[04:00] <dk06> anyone here use Enlightenment  WM
[04:00] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: ah i see. anyway for any dsl router/modem you buy, just make sure it has at least one ethernet port and not *only* wireless/usb connection to the computer. then you'll be fine, mostly. of course you'll need an ethernet card.
[04:00] <Vratha> what do i need to install to be able to play DVDs?
[04:00] <russ> anyone help installing wireless card drivers....???....
[04:01] <russ> vratha: use that automatix....
[04:01] <J-_> what's a good program to rip a cd with?
[04:01] <russ> does a lot....
[04:01] <FCTE> Vratha, automatix has the dvd codecs http://www.getautomatix.com/
[04:01] <jbroome> !automatix
[04:01] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:01] <Vratha> aahhh
[04:01] <Vratha> thanks; i'll check that out
[04:01] <FCTE> J-_, gnomebaker
[04:01] <J-_> thanks
[04:02] <Vratha> i swear this used to work out of the box, unless that was just on debian
[04:02] <Vratha> have there been recent changes to ubuntu that remove dvd support?
 yeah thats what i have an ethernet card thats how im on now :) with bts modem which gives both usb and ethernet
[04:02] <FCTE> J-_, assuming you're using gnome LOL oops
[04:02] <J-_> yeah i am lol =D
[04:02] <cronin> anyone ever use cinema 4d with after effects?
what about this username and password does that be entered via the browser/linksys config window
[04:03] <Homer> Does ACPI not suck in newer versions of Linux?
[04:03] <fuoco> dk06: my main HDD which i use to boot shouldn't be primary master ?
[04:03] <dk06> no
[04:03] <dk06> put it secondary primary
[04:03] <dk06> err
[04:03] <ubuntu-es> LOOOOL
[04:03] <dk06> secondary master
[04:04] <dk06> lol
[04:04] <fuoco> dk06: heh
[04:04] <Merovingian> BIOS gives me an error, "Error loading operating system"
[04:04] <dk06> lol
[04:04] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: not always, some big isp's make that in windows program only. ask isp beforehand. -- anyway the funniest thing: i think the linsys has linux running inside as an operating system. you'll then have two linux boxes
[04:04] <dk06> try loading it in safe mode
[04:04] <fuoco> dk06: but i have both a dvd-r and cd-r - which both need to be master ?
 yeah thats right
[04:04] <dk06> do u reall need the cdr
[04:04] <reter> i am trying to make a file in fakeroot but it saids the file does not exist and i just download it
[04:04] <dk06> dvdr can burn cdr
[04:05] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: have to leave soon -- any other questions about this?
[04:05] <Merovingian> <--- Someone here needs serious help.
[04:05] <Merovingian> :)
[04:05] <fuoco> dk06: so maybe i put hdd primary-master, dvd-r secondary-master and cd-r secondary-slave ?
 will i still be able to do 192.168.1.1 in a browser to get into the linksys and set user and pass
[04:05] <dk06> im not sure
[04:05] <dk06> but my dvdr is on primary master
[04:05] <dk06> and hdd is on seconday master
[04:06] <fuoco> hmm
[04:06] <dk06> and its working well
[04:06] <fuoco> ok i'll try
[04:06] <russ> how do you install a linksys wireless usb....???....
[04:06] <Vratha> so me using automatix in the USA to get DVD support working would be a crime... to get my paid-for DVDs to work is criminal...
[04:06] <charles_a> how can I configure readline to use vi mode?
[04:07] <lamb_> please help, im having trouble finding the gset-compiz deb package.. could someone help me... thanks
[04:07] <FCTE> Vratha, no but stealing the codecs is LOL
[04:07] <Vratha> ah
[04:07] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: ubuntu/linux surely won't hinder that. some big isp's sell you customized routers/modems with their service where they could break that. as i said, if you buy this from your isp, ask them. if you buy from hardware shop, it should be ok
 im useless with command line and know practically nothing of internet connections, like i can access my bt voyager router with "192.168.1.1" in firefox
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[04:08] <russ> we can back up our movies but we can't decrypt the copyright encryption....
[04:08] <Vratha> there aren't any free codecs that can play my DVDs using something like VLC?
[04:08] <FCTE> Vratha, I don't think VLC has the codecs until you install them
[04:09] <Vratha> right, but i mean there aren't any free codecs i can install?
[04:09] <FCTE> Vratha, I don't think so otherwise they would have put them in Ubuntu
 cheers, Im just dreading this not working and paying for a service that i dont have unless I use windows...and i realllly hate the fu*kers wish linux support would grow among these ISPs
[04:09] <hadi> help me! configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[04:09] <Vratha> FCTE: i guess that's true... maybe i should be a "criminal" then?
[04:09] <FCTE> Vratha, the codecs are copyrighted and prorietary workd wide
[04:09] <russ> is there another channel i might find someone to help me with my wireless adapter....???....
i will stick with it gonna break my win cd to make sure i dont touch it
[04:10] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: enter http://192.168.1.1/doc/index.htm(l) or something similar in address field of the browser. the documentation of the modem will surrely have this
[04:10] <hadi> C compiler cannot create executables. how to fix it?
[04:10] <FCTE> Vratha, it's all up to you, I advocate nothing LOL
[04:10] <Vratha> hehehe
[04:10] <Vratha> some fucker above my apartment is smoking
[04:10] <FCTE> Vratha, it's the same for WMP video as well I'm araid
[04:10] <Vratha> i'm going to start talking to them about it if i keep smelling this shit one more day
[04:10] <FCTE> *afraid
[04:10] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: look up the documentation for the device beforehand at the maker's site
[04:10] <mipstien> just burn your apartment then you smoke and everyone wins!
ok, I appreciate all your help listening to my ramblings and all.......gonna do as u say
[04:11] <jrib> hadi: install build-essential
[04:11] <Vratha> heh
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:11] <Vratha> i like my apt.
[04:11] <mipstien> o
[04:11] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: again, ubuntu won't prevent you from accessing the config page in the browser, ever
[04:11] <hadi> OK
[04:11] <Vratha> but considering smoking is a hazard to me and i think it's against lease rules to smoke inside, i'm pretty sure i have a good case to get their asses to quit
[04:11] <Vratha> and if they don't like it, they can leave
[04:12] <infidel> anyone know wherei can find a tutorial on configuring the key bindings for the compiz manager?
[04:12] <nozorro> Paddy_EIRE: cherrio then, long live Irish Whiskey and Irish Writers then :-)
thanks  man you put my mind at rest cheers
[04:15] <Vratha> well thanks; automatix is what i wanted, even though i'm in the US of A
[04:22] <TylerDurdener> how do i edit the Search for Files program? is there a .conf i can use or something?
[04:23] <SurfnKid> um
[04:24] <SurfnKid> i need to ask a question
[04:24] <SurfnKid> are we done splitting
[04:24] <SurfnKid> how can i add a spellcheck in another language in openoffice?
[04:24] <bruenig> SurfnKid, what language?
[04:25] <b0ysc0ut> can i have the dock from OS X into gnome?
[04:25] <MadCowBoy> HI I have a question about installing compwiz, Just got a new laptop and want to add some flash...
[04:26] <bruenig> MadCowBoy, first, do you mean compiz , second if you do mean compiz, flash doesn't have anything to do with it
[04:27] <bruenig> b0ysc0ut, try gdesklets, there is a dock you can run from that
[04:28] <chewd> hello folks
[04:28] <b0ysc0ut> bruenig can i run it usin gnome?
[04:28] <chewd> anybody have any tips on getting dual monitors to work in ubuntu?
[04:28] <melo1> i've installed wine / cabextract / ies4linux successfully.. now.. how does one actually run the browser?
[04:29] <bruenig> b0ysc0ut, there is nothing in gnome that by default allows you to have a dock like OS X, you can run gdesklets in gnome if that is what your question is asking. (your question is ambiguous)
[04:29] <wira1_8> is there world of worldcraft on ubuntu?
[04:29] <b0ysc0ut> ok thank u
[04:30] <bruenig> melo1, the script is in the home folder somewhere. I believe it is ~/bin/ie6
[04:30] <melo1> ta :)
[04:30] <wasabi> chewd: Two Screen/Devices sections in xorg.conf, or TwinView or whatever if you have one of "those" cards.
[04:31] <MadCowBoy> bruenig: I know, Bud, your right I meant compiz and not adding flash, i meant adding something flashy...
[04:31] <chewd> i installed the nvidia drivers & such... how do i access the config?
[04:32] <bruenig> MadCowBoy, ok well head over to #ubuntu-xgl, that channel will be more helpfull for compiz and xgl and the like
[04:32] <bruenig> helpful*
[04:32] <helo_aBiNg> anyone knows howto fix this bug:sda&sda(2)...?
[04:32] <MadCowBoy> Cheers thanks alot, Much appreciated, see you around.
[04:34] <DavidW2> If I installed lilo, How do I make grub the default bootloader again? dpkg-reconfigure grub doesn't seem to do anything
[04:34] <pcwick> Amorok states: "Audio output unavailable; the device is busy."  How can unbusy the device?
[04:35] <pcwick> no other audio programs running, and I restarted Amarok
[04:36] <bruenig> pcwick, this may work. sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:36] <Refried_> Hey
[04:36] <Refried_> I've got 3 nics in my router, and sometimes on reboot, they change device names
[04:37] <Refried_> which makes my /etc/network/interfaces settings apply incorrectly
[04:37] <shah02> is there anyone that knows a good program in linux like isolo?
[04:37] <bruenig> pcwick, work or not?
[04:37] <shah02> for reading pdb files??
[04:37] <Refried_> is there a nice debian/ubuntu way to fix this, lock them down to particular device names?
[04:38] <compu73rg33k> I'm going to install ubuntu on my "home server" which I'll probably run a simple website off of but more mainly sused as a file server for my home network. Woudl you recommend the server version? or the desktop?
[04:38] <pcwick> bruenig: no, it didn't work, thanks for the suggestion, any other ideas
[04:38] <bruenig> !info txt2pdbdoc
[04:38] <ubotu> txt2pdbdoc: convert plain text files to Palm DOC (for PalmOS) and back. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-4 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 144 kB
[04:39] <shah02> bruenig, i tried that it didn't work
[04:39] <shah02> bruenig, it tells me that it's not a pdb file, but it is and it works in isolo in windows...
[04:40] <bruenig> shah02, that is all I see in the repos that seems like it does what you want by the description
[04:41] <shah02> bruenig: that is what i thought until i tried it and it failed :(
[04:43] <Gevaudan82> hmmm...anyone happen to know why vnc4server or tightvncserver do not install themselves automatically into xinit.d? i've spent half a day and have yet to get them integrated, specifically tightvnc
[04:44] <sethk> Gevaudan82, what difference does it make whether the start script/program is in /etc/init.d or some other directory?
[04:44] <roostishaw> anyone, where can i find the dafault hosts file in ubuntu?
[04:45] <sethk> roostishaw, /etc/hosts
[04:45] <Gevaudan82> sethk: i agree, that would be fine it if installed itself in init.d but it doesn't even do that
[04:45] <sethk> roostishaw, has just a couple of lines, one or loopback, and one for the host's public ip
[04:45] <roostishaw> sethk, thats the one i changed, thats why im asking for the default file, to restore it
[04:45] <sethk> roostishaw, oh, you want the contents of a clean install hosts.  it's not a default, exactly.  I think I have it.
[04:46] <roostishaw> sethk, yes, exactly
[04:46] <Gevaudan82> if i run /usr/bin/tightvncserver then all is well...but an included startup script would be nice rather than for me to hack something up and have it probally not work anyway...specifically teh ability to start stop restart the vnc server on the same session
[04:46] <AngryElf> guys, i'm not sure the best way to set up what i want -- i want two 'sites'  i'd prefer that http://myIP goes to a public site, and http://myIP/something goes to a private site with a prompt (that I previously had set up).....but now i'm confused with the 2nd site thrown in there, any ideas?
[04:46] <sethk> Gevaudan82, ln -s /usr/bin/tightvncserver /etc/init.d/tightvncserver
[04:47] <roostishaw> sethk, do you have one, or know where i can find one?
[04:47] <sethk> roostishaw, pm me, I'll paste it
[04:47] <Gevaudan82> sethk: i actually tried something like #/bin/bash tightvncserver but it did not seem to start
[04:47] <compu73rg33k> would you guys recommend using the server editoin for a home fileserver that will run a weblog?
[04:47] <sethk> Gevaudan82, it isn't a script, it's a program.  you don't run a program with a shell
[04:47] <sethk> Gevaudan82, however, you don't need "something like" what I gave you.  you need what I gave you.
[04:48] <Gevaudan82> sethk: i see...i will try that...but it would be nice to be able to start,stop,restart the daemon on the same session...from my experience if you kill the tightvncserver process and then start it again it creates it on a different session even after deleted the pid files in ~/.vnc
[04:49] <Gevaudan82> sethk: but upon restarting all is well again and creates it on the default session (1)
[04:49] <sethk> Gevaudan82, ok.  a script like that would be, maybe, 25 lines.
[04:49] <Gevaudan82> sethk: problem is that man tightvncserver shows that it accepts no arguments
[04:50] <Homer> what is the compiz video
[04:50] <bruenig> Gevaudan82, might have to do some creative scripting then
[04:50] <sethk> Gevaudan82, right, so you need a script.
[04:50] <Gevaudan82> sethk: i guess i'm frustrated because this seems like a very common process and everything else is working perfectly since i've migrated my server from centos to ubuntu
[04:50] <bruenig> Homer, there are quite a few, do you mean the novell one that is absurdly long
[04:50] <sethk> Gevaudan82, that's why your quesiton was confusing.  you don't care about a particular directory, you need a script.
[04:51] <sethk> Gevaudan82, well, sure, it would be nice if they provide it, but as I said, it's a short script
[04:51] <james296> How can I make Ubuntu so when I press the volume down or volume up buttons on my keyboard and HOLD one of them it will continue to go up or down, because now for some reason I have to TAP the button to adjust the volume instead of holding it
[04:51] <james296> how do I fix that?
[04:51] <compu73rg33k> has anybody here used the server version of ubuntu?
[04:51] <sethk> Gevaudan82, you should be able to take something else in init.d and edit it
[04:51] <bruenig> james296, are they included in the System>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[04:52] <Gevaudan82> compu73rg33k: i tried it...note that it includes no gui by default
[04:52] <james296> yes they are
[04:52] <compu73rg33k> Gevaudan82: oh really...interesting...but is it easy to insatll gnome on it?
[04:53] <compu73rg33k> I'm also looking to make the box an asterisk server
[04:53] <sethk> compu73rg33k, sure.  there is nothing different about the server install
[04:53] <sethk> compu73rg33k, except the list of packages
[04:53] <sethk> compu73rg33k, you can install anything.
[04:53] <bruenig> james296, I would try to put another shortcut to see if it is button related (something about those buttons makes it where you have to tap) or system related (the system mandates you must tap), I use ctrl + up and ctrl + down and I don't have to tap
[04:53] <Gevaudan82> compu73rg33k: i didn't try as i didn't want to resolve the default dependencies...i just used the default 6.06 install and made it to a server from there...i use my server as both a server and as a desktop sharing my mouse/keyboard with my laptop with synergy
[04:53] <compu73rg33k> sethk: i've never done a ubuntu install heh
[04:53] <sethk> compu73rg33k, the server config is just what a typical server might need.
[04:54] <sethk> compu73rg33k, to install gnome is one line
[04:54] <sethk> compu73rg33k, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:54] <axisys> is there a separate irc chnl for wireless issues on ubuntu?
[04:54] <sethk> compu73rg33k, that will install gnome on a box
[04:54] <matthew_w> Does anyone know how I could convert an AVI video file into a 176x144 .3GPP File in Ubuntu?
[04:54] <bruenig> axisys, no, you can however look here for some good info
[04:54] <bruenig> !wifi
[04:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <compu73rg33k> Well sethk I don't need most of the packages included in regular ubuntu desktop
[04:54] <axisys> bruenig: thnx
[04:55] <compu73rg33k> just really will need firefox, gaim, and xchat
[04:55] <james296> that shortcut works...
[04:55] <bruenig> james296, looks like your other buttons have some issues.
[04:55] <axisys> i was testing suse 10.1 on this laptop and my wifi button lits when i turn on wifi.. but with dapper drake it does not
[04:55] <Merovingian> sethk: I pasted my fdisk partition table layout at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23103
[04:55] <axisys> its a hp nc6220
[04:55] <Gevaudan82> sethk:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is good to know...does the server feature an optomized kernel or anything...i upgraded mine to support smp 686 so i wonder if there is any benefit
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HI all, with a fresh install of Ubuntu, and only a dial up account... I dont see any dialer under internet in the menu list.. any help with that.?
[04:56] <sethk> Merovingian, I'll look, but I'm about to fade away here.
[04:56] <james296> apparently...
[04:56] <Merovingian> sethk: I'm stumped, I dont understand why fdisk sees /dev/sda5 as NTFS, but Ubuntu's Disk Manager sees it as Unpartitioned
[04:56] <bruenig> I assume keyboards work like any other input device whereby they send signals and those signals are translated into some action. perhaps for some reason your keyboard sound buttons will only send one impulse for each pulse whereas the other keys will send impulses every so often so long as they are held down
[04:56] <Merovingian> sethk: k
[04:56] <Gevaudan82> Merovingian: when in doubt trust fdisk
[04:57] <sethk> Merovingian, I'm not familiar with that format.   use  fdisk -l /dev/hda    to print the partition table.
[04:57] <bintut> how can i install a video plugin for firefox like support on .avi, .wma or .mpg?
[04:57] <bruenig> !mozilla-mplayer
[04:57] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[04:57] <bruenig> bintut, I use that, it is good
[04:57] <Gevaudan82> bintut: do a search for mplayer in synaptec and get the mozilla plguin as wel
[04:57] <Merovingian> sethk: That's fdisk's printout, I had to retype it because I'm working on another machine here.
[04:57] <bintut> bruenig: thanks..  :)
[04:58] <james296> LOL
[04:58] <bintut> thanks Gevaudan82
[04:58] <james296> I know why
[04:58] <james296> because I plugged it in my USB port instead of PS/2 port
[04:58] <axisys> is there a separate irc chnl for laptop issues on ubuntu?
[04:58] <StoneNote> !laptop
[04:58] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:59] <axisys> StoneNote: thnx
[04:59] <sethk> Merovingian, well, one of us is going to have to type it the same way that fdisk -l shows it.  I nominate you.  :)
[04:59] <bintut> bruenig and Gevaudan82: i don't have that plugin
[04:59] <axisys> !laptop > axisys
[04:59] <StoneNote> yw. not exactlty what you were looking for but I hope it helps
[04:59] <bintut> what repository shall i add?
[04:59] <bruenig> bintut, ah you need to enable multiverse
[04:59] <sethk> Merovingian, we need ALL the lines from fdisk -l, NOT just the partition lines
[04:59] <bintut> bruenig: ok
[04:59] <Merovingian> k
[04:59] <bruenig> bintut, follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[05:00] <axisys> StoneNote: looking for wifi issue on laptop
[05:00] <bintut> bruenig: ok
[05:02] <sethk> Merovingian, I'll be in and out but I'll try to get back to you soon.
[05:02] <compu73rg33k> anybody here setup asterisk on their ubuntu server?
[05:02] <StoneNote> axisys, I doubt I can be of help. I just got wifi working myself on my desktop so I'm no expert.  I ld/l ndiswrapper and followed the install instructions (make uninstall/make/sudo make install;got a copy of the windows drivers for my  wireless card;unpacked them;loaded them;rebooted;viola wireless worked)
[05:03] <Merovingian> sethk, thanks. Currently busy installing Windows XP on the /dev/sda2 partition, so I'll have to update the fdisk output later ;(
[05:03] <DavidW2> For some reason, my usb drive won't mount. I get no device entry for it, so I can't seem to mount it manually either :(
[05:03] <maple1> how long will it take k3b to burn at 0x?
[05:04] <bruenig> division by zero...
[05:04] <guy> anyone know how to run vmware along side arts daemon
[05:05] <guy> or any non-arts applications to use arts
[05:05] <guy> some type of wrapper?
[05:05] <reZo> I have a question about dual monitors. Basicly, I have plugged both in, and I'm editing the X11 file at the moment. However, I have come accross to the point where I need to put in the BusID, now, is this BusID the one from the lspci command, or is it something else?
[05:05] <Caplain> how do i mount a samba share?
[05:05] <eaglescout> hi.  I need some help.  My Ubuntu is out of disc space, so I can't log in.  How can I make more disc space without logging in, or how can I delete everything and re-install it?  anywhere I can get this info?
[05:05] <Kromel> Anyone have any luck with DWL-G132 wireless?
[05:06] <bintut> Caplain: use smb4k for gui app or smbmount for cli
[05:06] <TehUni> Rezo: lspci | grep vga
[05:06] <Caplain> Kromel: have you tried madwifi?
[05:06] <TehUni> should tell you
[05:06] <reZo> Wicked.
[05:06] <Kromel> madwifi?
[05:06] <Kromel> hmm
[05:06] <bruenig> eaglescout, wow, you must be really out of space to not even be able to login. you could use the live cd. mount the drive and then delete stuff
[05:06] <Kromel> looking it up now, thanks
[05:06] <reZo> TehUni: Comes up with nothing at all.
[05:07] <eaglescout> yeah, I had 10 GB, but it said that I only allowed 3GB for the drive. o_O
[05:07] <reZo> However, in my lspci I have:
[05:07] <reZo> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0291 (rev a1)
[05:07] <TehUni> Rezo: lspci | grep VGA
[05:07] <TehUni> sorry
[05:07] <TehUni> caps.
[05:07] <bruenig> eaglescout, so do you have a live cd?
[05:07] <reZo> Wicked as dude.
[05:07] <bintut> eaglescout: boot in a single user mode and remove files you don't need
[05:07] <Wicked_> O.o
[05:07] <reZo> TehUni, would that number code at the start be the BusID?
[05:07] <bruenig> bintut, did you get mozilla-mplayer?
[05:07] <reZo> Wicked_ Sorry dude XD
[05:07] <eaglescout> okay, by Live CD, you mean the desktop CD? yse, I have one. I'll run it.
[05:08] <Wicked_> no problem I should turn that off
[05:08] <bintut> bruenig: installing it..
[05:09] <TehUni> reZo: should be 1:0:0 for you.
[05:09] <reZo> Wicked as.
[05:10] <reZo> Let's see if this works.
[05:10] <reZo> Brb
[05:10] <wx9j> I cannot change the resoultion on this box, it never changes after I hit apply, what file do I manually edit to get this done ?
[05:11] <bruenig> wxpj, xorg.conf
[05:12] <TehUni> wx9j: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <wx9j> thank you . my memory is shot, I never memember things
[05:13] <Caplain> i instaled the samba tools but i sitll dont have smbmount or smb4k
[05:15] <reZo> TehUni: Didn't work.
[05:15] <reZo> Hmmms, the other monitor works fine untill the login screen on Ubuntu.
[05:20] <Homer> So is Edgy going to use XGL? :p
[05:21] <chew1> hey guys
[05:21] <foo> How can I check my battery status ? Hm
[05:21] <foo> I am in fluxbox
[05:21] <james296> is it possible for me to get something that would allow me to change the color of my themes?
[05:21] <chew1> im trying to activate my nvidia drivers... need to edit xorg.conf in the X11 dir apparently... however text editor wont let me save the changes
[05:21] <chew1> how do i give text editor root priviledge?
[05:22] <dr_willis_> james296,  you could always edit/make  a new theme with the colors
[05:22] <chew1> or... failing that.. how do i edit xorg.conf from terminal?
[05:22] <dr_willis_> chew1,  sudo editor-you-like
[05:22] <james296> well how can I CHANGE the color but nothing else?
[05:22] <dr_willis_> chew1,  sudo editor-you-like /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <chew1> oh hell i dont even know which editor im using
[05:22] <chew1> whatever came with ubuntu
[05:23] <wx9j> gedit
[05:23] <wx9j> sudo su gedit
[05:24] <dr_willis_> sudo su ? where do people get that from. :P
[05:24] <jwl007|wed_stuff> ahhh wedding in T-26 days
[05:24] <bruenig> or nano
[05:24] <Heartsbane> ROFL just sudo bash
[05:24] <Heartsbane> ROFL sudo su -
[05:24] <dr_willis_> sudo -s
[05:24] <chew1> that did it thanks!
[05:24] <dr_willis_> works wonders
[05:24] <njdube> I have some videos I'd like to share with everyone.  My ass will probably end up in some secret CIA prison for this... "http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Home_Made_Video_of_US_Soldiers_in_Iraq"
[05:26] <bjoern__> Good Morning!
[05:26] <chew1> arg
[05:26] <__mikem> Nice Call DBO
[05:27] <james296> so theres no way to change the color of the Human theme in gnome as easy as kde?
[05:27] <dr_willis_> heh
[05:28] <dr_willis_> one of these days i need to  learn how to make themes
[05:28] <chew1> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[05:28] <aleka> Hello GUys >> Does Ubuntu come with Openoffice in a standard install? I'am sure I had it (Running Dapper) but can't find it under my applications Menu now
[05:28] <dr_willis_> aleka,  yes its in there.
[05:28] <chew1> nvidia-settings comes up.. but it doesnt have any functionality
[05:28] <__mikem> It came with my install
[05:28] <dr_willis_> try 'oo<tab>
[05:29] <aleka> can't find it with dpkg -l openoffice either
[05:29] <__mikem> what does 'oo<tab> do?
[05:29] <foo> How can I check the battery status? hmm
[05:29] <dr_willis_>  Bash 101 - file name completion
[05:29] <dr_willis_> no ' :)
[05:29] <__mikem> dr_willis_ it doesn't do anything on my terminal
[05:29] <aleka> how do I fire openoffice.org up from the terminal if I don't have it under Applications menu
[05:30] <dr_willis_> __mikem,  hit tab a few times. :P
[05:30] <dr_willis_>  it should show all the oo* programs
[05:30] <__mikem> Oh there it goes
[05:30] <__mikem> thanks, I should use that more often
[05:31] <chew1> anybody here familiar with nvidia cards under ubuntu?
[05:31] <aleka> if anyone has a min to answer my stupid questions please...
[05:31] <dr_willis_> __mikem,  it pays to spend a day reading a few bash tutorials. :P pays BIG time.
[05:31] <dr_willis_> aleka,  oo<tab> shows all the oo related binaries
[05:31] <Blue89> I am not on ubuntu, but I am considering using it, and I want to know if my app is available for it. Is ALICE in synaptic?
[05:31] <dr_willis_> !info alice
[05:31] <ubotu> Package alice does not exist in any distro I know
[05:32] <dr_willis_> I would guess thats a No Blue89 .
[05:32] <Blue89> :-9
[05:32] <bruenig> !ask
[05:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:32] <__mikem> Blue89 what is alice?
[05:32] <krazykit> aleka: ooffice
[05:32] <bruenig> Blue89, yeah I am wondering that too
[05:32] <__mikem> maybe he is in wonderland
[05:32] <aleka> what window would I have to have active when pressing oo<Tab>
[05:33] <__mikem> what do you mean "forces"
[05:33] <__mikem> that was funny and you know it
[05:33] <chew1> hmm
[05:33] <bruenig> aleka the terminal window
[05:33] <dr_willis_> aleka,  the terminal/console/gnome-terminal/where you type shell commands.
[05:33] <__mikem> thats better
[05:33] <aleka> NOthing is happening
[05:34] <dr_willis_> did ya hear it beep? did ya hit tab twice?
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !alice
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <aleka> Screenis blinking in error when I type oo and hit <tab>
[05:34] <dr_willis_> did ya just try 'ooffice'  like the one guy said.
[05:34] <wira1_8> oo'
[05:34] <aleka>  ooffice
[05:34] <aleka> bash: ooffice: command not found
[05:34] <dr_willis_> oobase          oodraw          oofromtemplate  oomath          ooweb oocalc          ooffice         ooimpress       ooo-wrapper     oowriter
[05:35] <dannyr> I am having trouble installing a later version on Ubuntu - apt-get gets ver: clamd / ClamAV version 0.67 - the server at work - debian sarge - has: ClamAV 0.84/1845/Mon Sep 1105:08:12  2006 - apt-get update/install clamav says that I am uptodate?
[05:35] <KanRiNiN> Hey I had a question about Synaptic..
[05:35] <varsendaggr> hey how do i save a session?
[05:35] <reZo> http://pastebin.ca/166645
[05:35] <varsendaggr> KanRiNiN, shoot
[05:35] <dr_willis_> aleka,  fire up synaptic and make sure its isntalled I guess.
[05:35] <KanRiNiN> apt-get can build stuff from source right?  So could it be used to rebuild, say the xvid package with my processor cflags?  like sse and sse2 optimization?
[05:35] <dannyr> Is there a particular repos in soures.list file that I should have
[05:35] <dr_willis_> varsendaggr,  system/preferances/session
[05:36] <bruenig> aleka, try this "ooffice -writer", assuming you want to word processor, also are you sure you have it installed
[05:36] <chew1> To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".
[05:36] <bruenig> !source-o-matic
[05:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:36] <chew1> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[05:36] <chew1> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[05:36] <chew1> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[05:36] <chew1> command:
[05:36] <chew1> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:36] <chew1> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[05:36] <chew1> from nv to nvidia.
[05:36] <gusto5> hello, how do i change the preferred acrobat program to adobe acrobat instead of document reader?
[05:37] <chew1> ive tried both
[05:37] <aleka> under synaptic I have openoffice.org debian files and common file installed... but so many packages...
[05:37] <aleka> which ones are the base packages
[05:37] <chew1> neither appear to work
[05:37] <reZo> TehUni: http://pastebin.ca/166645
[05:37] <varsendaggr> reZo,    hey there is a how to dual monitors on the ubuntu wiki
[05:37] <KanRiNiN> varsendaggr: did you understand that or should I rephrase it?
[05:37] <bruenig> aleka, open up a terminal and do this "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org"
[05:37] <bruenig> that will install everything
[05:37] <reZo> varsendaggr: Wicked, I'll take a look.
[05:37] <bruenig> if it is already installed it will say it is and won't install anything
[05:38] <aleka> yeah.. Just wanted to make sure I had it before i went and installed it again...
[05:38] <varsendaggr> KanRiNiN, i didn't see anyhting
[05:38] <aleka> would tht create any problems or would it just write over the old files?
[05:38] <varsendaggr> just a sec now i see it.
[05:38] <KanRiNiN> varsendaggr: apt-get can build stuff from source right?  So could it be used to rebuild, say the xvid package with my processor cflags?  like sse and sse2 optimization?
[05:38] <bruenig> aleka, if you already have some of the files, it won't install those
[05:38] <bruenig> aleka, if you have the word processor aspect but not the spreadsheet, It won't install the word processor part
[05:38] <varsendaggr> KanRiNiN, i would assume so but i really don't know
[05:39] <wx9j> aleka, try ooffice -writer
[05:39] <ComputinChuck> hey everyone
[05:39] <ckidd57> hi all
[05:39] <eaglescout> I can't get my Ubunu to install over itself.  How can I do that?  Is there a guide on that anywhere?
[05:39] <chew1> -sigh-
[05:39] <eaglescout> Ubuntu*
[05:40] <ComputinChuck> anyone know why ubuntu can blank (and turn off the back light) a laptop lcd and my slackware system can't?  is there an extra driver or just more testing?
[05:40] <bruenig> gusto5, changing default programs in gnome gives me a headache, generally I would just advocate a symlink, but document viewer is also used for some other stuff so that might pose a little problem
[05:41] <lavi> hi all
[05:41] <eaglescout> can anybody help me? I have a hard drive that isn't working and I need help. :(
[05:41] <dr_willis_> ComputinChuck,  proberly a kernel/apci update/tweak/patch
[05:41] <bruenig> eaglescout, are you in the live cd?
[05:41] <gusto5> bruenig, how about specifically in firefox?
[05:41] <Caplain> whats it not doing eaglescout?
[05:41] <bruenig> and did you do that stuff
[05:42] <bruenig> gusto5, adobe has a plugin
[05:42] <ComputinChuck> dr_willis_, hmm, would they be public domain? or ubuntu developed?
[05:42] <gusto5> i have the plugin installed for firefox
[05:42] <gusto5> but it won't ask to open it by default
[05:42] <lavi> I runing into a compiling problem with the headfile. ie. i wrote a simpl.c and there is a line #include <glib.h> inside,
[05:42] <KanRiNiN> OK.  I looked a bit more, and I can use the apt-get build-dep command, but if I do that will it include all my processor optimizations and how can I tell?  thanks!
[05:42] <eaglescout> okay, I tried the Live CD and it wouldn't install.  :/  it's not partitioning right.  it only did 2GB the first time and now it's not letting me install Linux on the 6GB that's left.
[05:42] <lavi> but I ran gcc simp.h it propmpt can not find glib.h file. why?
[05:43] <bruenig> gusto5, what do you mean it won't ask to open it by default, if you have the plugin it should just open it inside the browser
[05:43] <lavi> I'm sure the glib.h is there /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h
[05:43] <dr_willis_> ComputinChuck,  i imagine its in their source somewhere.. the ubuntu guys spent a LOT of time tweaking things for laptops
[05:43] <bruenig> gusto5, to just get it straight, you have installed mozilla-acroread?
[05:44] <ubuntu> what is port 7212? is it open on ubuntu?
[05:44] <wweasel> Can anyone shed some light on why OpenOffice isn't spellchecking on a default ubuntu install? Like, i
[05:44] <ComputinChuck> dr_willis_, i imagine they did, ubuntu is working wonderfully on my laptop right now, but i'm really a slackware user at heart...
[05:44] <wweasel>  type a bunch of gibberish and it sees no mistakes
[05:44] <bruenig> wweasel, is it 64 bit?
[05:44] <wweasel> No, 32
[05:45] <ubuntu> does anyone know what port 7212 is? I keepgetting scaned onit
[05:45] <dr_willis_> ComputinChuck,  yep..  it works dang good on my laptop also.. only thing not workign now is the muti-card-reader gizmo. and i think thats fixed in the next kernel
[05:45] <dr_willis_> google for it?
[05:45] <bruenig> wweasel, you have myspell-en-us installed?
[05:45] <ubuntu> did says unassigned
[05:45] <dr_willis_> could be the latest MS exploit
[05:45] <rus1> I need to use special characters (to write in German) and to insert one under windows I can press alt and a series of numbers on the num pad - is there a way to do something like this in Ubuntu?
[05:45] <ckidd57> does anybody know how to get the wireless working on an HP nx9010?
[05:45] <dr_willis_> or some punk kids
[05:45] <ubuntu> i think its a linux thing like port 5900
[05:45] <wweasel> bruenig
[05:46] <ComputinChuck> dr_willis_, yea, my card reader isn't working either
[05:46] <bruenig> rusl, I know there are a lot of characters in Applications>Accessories>Character Map, but alt characters no
[05:46] <eaglescout> can anybody help me?
[05:46] <wweasel> !ask
[05:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:46] <rus1> bruenig: Yeah, I've been doing it by copying them individually as I need them from the character map, but that takes awhile.
[05:46] <bruenig> eaglescout, are you still having disk space problems or did you figure it out to be something else
[05:47] <wweasel> bruenig: It is the same on 2 systems I have with Ubuntu, never played with dictionary or whatever settings in OO, doesn't work out of the box
[05:47] <bruenig> wweasel, so you want to file a bug report or try to make it work?
[05:47] <casey_> does anyone know what this means
[05:47] <casey_> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[05:47] <eaglescout> I'm having problems.  I really just want to completley uninstall ubuntu so that I can install it with all 9 GB used, instead of just 2.2. :/
[05:47] <wweasel> bruenig: try to make it work. got a paper to write and it's getting late :P
[05:48] <bruenig> eaglescout, if you have an install cd, just put it in and click install
[05:48] <bruenig> wweasel, did you try to install that package I gave earlier?
[05:48] <aleka> Thanks So much Guys~
[05:48] <wweasel> bruenig: It comes by default with ubuntu. I already have it.
[05:48] <lakin> wweasel: might it be this? http://www.mepis.org/node/377
[05:48] <reter> i just installed java and websites still ask me to install java. what do i do?
[05:49] <eaglescout> bruenig: I do, but it won't install OVER the other Ubuntu, it just gives me an error warning me that it will overwrite other files, and it won't continue.
[05:49] <photojim> don't use java sites?  :)
[05:49] <wweasel> lakin: Afraid not, as I have myspell-en-us
[05:49] <reter> c'mon photojim
[05:49] <triplc> hello everybody
[05:49] <bruenig> eaglescout, yes it will. Just delete the partition and make new ones. Go to manually edit the partition table.
[05:49] <lakin> wweasel: aah, sorry I missed Bruenig's comment.
[05:50] <reter> photojim java is everywhere...i gotta have it to get on these sites
[05:50] <ComputinChuck> dr_willis_, there are some bb posts from google that i've found that seem to indicate that it can be done without any particular patches to the kernel
[05:50] <photojim> reter:  I haven't had good luck with Java and ubuntu yet, honestly.  still trying... but no success yet.  on 32-bit Ubuntu I can get Java installed and kinda working but FF exits when the app starts, whichi s useless.
[05:50] <luckyaba> i just installed Ubuntu and there is a nice long list of updates..... i have had issues in the past with them. Should i be safe updating?
[05:50] <AngryElf_> so "Grub Loading Stage 1.5Read Error" is a very bad thing, yes?.....can i reinstall grub somehow?
[05:50] <photojim> luckyaba: you should be ok.
[05:50] <triplc> please help: i am using ubuntu dapper (6.0.6.1) but i see that bluefish is slow (especially the page rolling).
[05:50] <eaglescout> I did do that.  It still won't work. :(  I'
[05:50] <dr_willis_> ComputinChuck,  i just plug in my spare usb-media reader. :P
[05:51] <__mikem> AngryElf_  you will need a live CD but you can fix that
[05:51] <ComputinChuck> dr_willis_, haha, whatever works
[05:51] <eaglescout> I'll try again.  I'll get on IRC on ubuntu. brb
[05:51] <reter> photojim what is ff ?
[05:51] <dr_willis_> ComputinChuck,  makes ya wonder how the laptop makers are putting the things in.. i would figure wireing it to a usb port would be easier.
[05:51] <luckyaba> photojim: i am coming after you if it screws up them :P
[05:51] <bruenig> wweasel, you could try sudo apt-get install openoffice.org, if it is one of the packages referred to in that meta package, it will hopefully install, maybe not but worth a try
[05:51] <triplc> please help: i am using ubuntu dapper (6.0.6.1) but i see that bluefish is slow (especially the page rolling). i learn that the lattest version of bluefish is faster. could you please help, how to get that faster version to work
[05:51] <luckyaba> then**
[05:51] <photojim> luckyaba:  yep.  I'm on Baffin Island.  really.  honestly.  yup.  :)
[05:51] <jmoncayo> hey can somebody tell me the slackware channel?
[05:51] <dr_willis_> be nice to have a replaceable/standard sized one for future kinds of media readers..
[05:51] <ComputinChuck> dr_willis_, no kidding, they always have to make things complicated though
[05:51] <luckyaba> haha
[05:52] <photojim> reter:  ff.  firefox.
[05:52] <dr_willis_> I tought a little usb bay for a USB-media stick would be handy as well. but thats more space i guess
[05:52] <wweasel> bruenig: I already have openoffice.org package installed
[05:52] <ckidd57> could anybody help me with getting my wireless working on my laptop so I don't have to go back toxp?
[05:52] <ubuntu> does anyone know why 82.96.96.3 scans all my ports when i am in this group?
[05:52] <__mikem> AngryElf_ just put in the live cd, mount your filesystem, and do dpkg-reconfigure grub
[05:53] <AngryElf_> will do
[05:53] <bruenig> wweasel, should work, don't know why it wouldn't
[05:53] <drcode> hi all
[05:53] <wweasel> bruenig: Does it on your system?
[05:53] <DavidW2> [17179825.704000]  Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[05:53] <drcode> any one know good replace for file manager with rar and other support
[05:53] <DavidW2> [17179825.704000]  usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[05:53] <drcode> like rar apssword
[05:53] <DavidW2> But no drives are found...?
[05:53] <dr_willis_> drcode,  wine winrar.exe
[05:53] <dr_willis_> :)
[05:54] <wweasel> bruenig: I would hate to open up windows to use OpenOffice.org. It just feels so wrong :P
[05:54] <drcode> in pure linue
[05:54] <drcode> linux
[05:54] <dr_willis_> !rar
[05:54] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:54] <dr_willis_> there ya go. :)
[05:54] <dr_willis_> pick one.
[05:54] <AngryElf_> on an unrelated note......how do i completely filter an ip from accessing my box?.....i have a linksys router/firewall if it can be done better there
[05:54] <drcode> k
[05:54] <triplc> apt-get install rar (<--- non-free version)
[05:54] <drcode> k
[05:54] <drcode> thnx\
[05:55] <drcode> any one know jvoicexml mybe?
[05:55] <wweasel> bruenig: AHA! I got it!
[05:56] <wweasel> bruenig: It's very odd. I had to launch OO as root and install new dictionaries. Tried doing it as user and it didn't work.
[05:56] <billybennett> Anyone here familar with gnome-network-manager for use with WPA?
[05:56] <Caplain> is there an ntfs to ext3 converter?
[05:56] <bruenig> !ntfs
[05:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:56] <wweasel> billybennett: Yes
[05:56] <Tonren> How do I disable NetworkManager Applet?
[05:57] <DavidW2> How come usb storage doesn't find any devices?
[05:57] <wweasel> Caplain: The answer to the question is no. Not like there is from FAT32 to NTFS.
[05:57] <billybennett> wweasel, I had it a little while back and it worked great but I forgot to take note on how I installed it.  I followed the simple tutorial which was just apt get and its showing my wired network but not my wireless
[05:58] <wweasel> Caplain: If you wanted to move from an NTFS partition to an ext3 partition, you would have to backup your data on another partition, change your NTFS partition to ext3 (all data will be lost), then restore your backup
[05:58] <wweasel> billybennett: Most likely you didn't comment out stuff in /etc/network/interfaces - gedit that file and check
[05:58] <wweasel> billybennett: What you have to do is comment out everything but the two "lo" lines (those are loopback)
[05:58] <Caplain> anyone have a spare 250GB hdd?
[05:59] <__mikem> Caplain yes, just let me pull one out of my but
[05:59] <wweasel> Caplain: You could always be evil and buy one from whatever store, use it, wipe it, return it. :P
[06:00] <billybennett> wweasel, okay I did that.. I guess a restart would be best correct?
[06:00] <wweasel> billybennett: Yeah, it's probably necessary. COme back and tell me how it went :)
[06:01] <Caplain> wweasel: what do they run at pricewise?
[06:01] <wweasel> __mikem :) not that I have every done a thing like that.... :P oh, the Future Shop Swap. Good times.
[06:01] <wweasel> Caplain: No idea.
[06:01] <billybennett> wweasel, thanks brb
[06:01] <Caplain> __mikes, thats butt*
[06:01] <wweasel> Caplain: you are using a full 250 gigs on your NTFS partition
[06:01] <AngryElf_> does ubuntu have any log watchers?
[06:02] <wweasel> Caplain: And please tell me you have some way of backing up your data... :P
[06:02] <sp0rk_> log watchers?
[06:02] <f4t4l`> Is there a number i can call?
[06:02] <james296> AHHH help me PLZ for some reason when a warning dialog for Azureus appears on the bottom right, I CANNOT click the Hide button to close it...I try to click it but absolutely nothing happens
[06:02] <james296> can someone tell me how to fix this?
[06:02] <f4t4l`> Anyone?
[06:02] <RedRose> how do i make a link to a file?
[06:02] <f4t4l`> Is there a phone number i can call?
[06:02] <AngryElf_> yea like, there are a few hundred auth requests in my authlog all from the same ip, it'd be nice if something automated were to notify me of that
[06:02] <RedRose> !link
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <RedRose> !ln
[06:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:02] <f4t4l`> Anyone?
[06:03] <jbroome> james296: i had to ps aux | grep java and kill that process to get rid of it
[06:03] <f4t4l`> Is there a phone number?
[06:03] <f4t4l`> support number?
[06:03] <RedRose> f4t4l`, Wha't's the problem?
[06:03] <f4t4l`> i need someone to talk to
[06:03] <james296> how do I do that...lol
[06:03] <f4t4l`> chats airnt working
[06:03] <RedRose> f4t4l`, slow down, what's the problem...
[06:03] <f4t4l`> ROFL
[06:03] <f4t4l`> can you PM me?
[06:03] <RedRose> no one here will giveyou a number, trust me
[06:03] <f4t4l`> its to hecktic in here
[06:03] <jc> anyone have experience reinstall an app, specifically gallery2 and/or samba, with apt-get and having problems with reconfigure not workin?
[06:03] <sp0rk> AngryElf_: hm....you could write a script for that in perl or even awk that could do that pretty easily
[06:04] <Flannel> f4t4l`: what's the problem?
[06:04] <sp0rk> but no, i don't know of any off the top of my head
[06:04] <bruenig> f4t4l`, is lying, he is trying to get a rise, see his ROFL
[06:04] <f4t4l`> A rise?
[06:04] <RedRose> how do i make a link to a file?
[06:04] <wweasel> f4t4l`: I can second that by RedRose. no one here will give a phone number
[06:04] <Flannel> RedRose: ln
[06:04] <Caplain> wweasel: i just converted to linux
[06:04] <james296> so how do I get rid of it?
[06:04] <RedRose> but I do ln /usr/src/linux build and it gives me a directory error
[06:05] <wweasel> Caplain: I understand. I had 2 questions. Do you use the entire 250 GB, or is there some free space? And, do you backup your data ever?
[06:05] <billybennett> wweasel, works so far now I gotta setup WPA2 on my router :) thank you very much!
[06:05] <AngryElf_> if mount spits out I/O errors on a filesystem, what's the best thing to do?
[06:05] <wweasel> billybennett: np ;)
[06:05] <dr_willis_> 'panic'
[06:06] <sp0rk> AngryElf_: fsck it?
[06:06] <wweasel> dr_willis_: lol!
[06:06] <jc> can anyone tell me why apt-get install would fail when trying to reinstall a package, or how to get dpkg-reconfigure to recreate init.d scripts?
[06:06] <HLM> f4t4l :  try  1-204-876-5309 O:-)
[06:06] <Caplain> wweasel:  i have two drives that equal 250GB and i dont have anything to back my data up to
[06:06] <axisys> StoneNote: which instruction you followed for ndiswrapper
[06:06] <Tonren> Doesn't ANYONE know how to get rid of this horrible NetworkManager Applet?
[06:06] <iceman> now the dreadful part, installing nvidia drivers.
[06:07] <wweasel> Caplain: Sounds like it would be a good investment then. You never know when the demons known as hard drive failure will strike.
[06:07] <axisys> Tonren: u can disable in sessions startup
[06:07] <dr_willis_> iceman,  normally takes me less then 4 min.
[06:07] <wweasel> Caplain: But that's for the future. For the moment, you need some way of converting NTFS to ext3?
[06:07] <dr_willis_> Tonren,  ps ax  - get the pid.. kill it
[06:07] <AngryElf_> sp0rk,  fsck doesn't work....attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in a short read....could this be a 0-length partition?
[06:07] <AngryElf_> :(
[06:07] <dr_willis_> Tonren,  or use the gnome session manager tool
[06:07] <Tonren> dr_willis_: I can kill it, but it always comes back on the next boot
[06:07] <wweasel> Caplain: I'd imagine that's because you want read/write access in Linux...read isn't gonna cut it, right?
[06:08] <AngryElf_> across hda1, hda2, hda3, hda5  :-/
[06:08] <iceman> dr_willis takes longer to reboot normaly, but a new system, never know
[06:08] <Tonren> dr_willis_: I've removed it from my session about forty times.  It STILL comes back.
[06:08] <jc> can anyone help me with apt?  I'm much more familiar with fedora/rpm and I can't figure out why apt-get install doesn't recreate scripts upon reinstallation?
[06:08] <dr_willis_> Tonren,   normally people are in here.. trying to get it running.
[06:08] <iceman> !nvidia
[06:08] <james296> how do I get rid of that dialog in azureus???
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:08] <Tonren> dr_willis_: It's ALWAYS wrong, it has NO configuration options.  What does it even do?  I have no idea.  All I know is that it ALWAYS says "No connection", no matter what.  Jesus does it suck.
[06:08] <Caplain> wweasel: correct
[06:08] <wweasel> Caplain: Well, until you have somewhere to backup your data and change the partition type, I recommend you check out read/write in ntfs
[06:08] <dr_willis_> Tonren,  go hardcore.. and totally remove all the .gnome and .gconf dirs and setting?
[06:08] <bruenig> james296, install the beta or restart azureus
[06:09] <dr_willis_> Tonren,  its the only tool that works for me. :)
[06:09] <james296> I did restart
[06:09] <wweasel> Caplain: Rather, in linux.
[06:09] <Tonren> dr_willis_: hahaha, it's like in windows.  "DELETE SYSTEM32 DIRECTORY"
[06:09] <dr_willis_> Tonren,  im convinced that Wireless in General.. sucks...
[06:09] <Caplain> wweasel: is it safe?
[06:09] <sp0rk> AngryElf_: hm...possibly a hardware failure?  i would, in that case, 'panic'
[06:09] <james296> but how do I make it so I can actually click the Hide button to hide it?
[06:09] <AngryElf_> :-/
[06:09] <Caplain> dr_willis_: #wireless
[06:09] <jc> tap tap, is this thing on ?  ;)  pls don't make me go back to fedora...
[06:09] <bruenig> james296, it is a bug, only fixed in the new betas
[06:09] <Tonren> dr_willis_: I didn't say anything about wireless.  Network manager is just ALWAYS wrong.
[06:09] <AngryElf_> it's just a workstation, but i dont really want to set everything up again
[06:09] <f4t4l`> Is PM not working?
[06:09] <dr_willis_> Caplain,  ive ran wires now.. :P wireless is rarely needed for me.
[06:09] <james296> oh really
[06:09] <sp0rk> AngryElf_: it happens...generally bad bits that cause IO errors can be easily fixed with fsck, but if fsck can't even run you've got bigger problems
[06:10] <wweasel> Caplain: Well, not fully. It's not stable yet. It is pretty good, many people use it. But there are always warnings and disclaimers
[06:10] <james296> I hate using betas...grrrr....
[06:10] <dr_willis_> Tonren,  remove the packqge then?
[06:10] <wweasel> !tell Caplain about ntfs
[06:10] <sp0rk> AngryElf_: don't quote me, though, my unix skills are getting rusty now that i've entered the real world
[06:10] <StoneNote> axisys, I downloaded ndiswrapper from http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ and then used ark to extract it and followed the INSTALL directions that I extracted.  I found my wireless cards most current drivers on the mfr site in taiwan
[06:10] <james296> how do I install the beta.,..
[06:10] <sp0rk> heh and now that i'm using ubuntu
[06:10] <bruenig> james296, what you ought to do is remove the repository one "apt-get remove azureus" and install the other one from the website and then follow thier instructions on how to update the one on their website to the beta
[06:10] <sp0rk> it makes you lazy
[06:10] <Tonren> dr_willis_: What's the package name?  It's not nmapplet and it's not networkmanager.
[06:10] <vasi> hi, is the kernel in the ubuntu installer CD the same as the one installed onto the target system?
[06:11] <dr_willis_> apt-cache search network-manager
[06:11] <Tonren> dr_willis_: I can't actually DELETE it using Gnome Session startup manager
[06:11] <vasi> (i need to patch the kernel to get the installer to run, so i need to know if there are any changes i should make in order to build a replacement kernel)
[06:11] <Tonren> dr_willis_: I can onlY "disable" it, which oesn't work
[06:11] <sp0rk> anyone know a hotkey combo for moving through windows in irssi?  I'm having a brainfart.
[06:11] <bruenig> betas are fine, especially when they are unimportant things like bittorrent. Unless the beta made you unable to pirate things, it is ok if it messes everything else up.
[06:11] <sp0rk> /windows goto 4
[06:12] <sp0rk> /windos goto 4
[06:12] <sp0rk> wtf.
[06:12] <dr_willis_> alt-1 i thought throught 9
[06:12] <sp0rk> yeah thats what i thought, but it's not working
[06:12] <Flannel> sp0rk: or alt-left/right
[06:12] <dr_willis_> sp0rk,  try it in the console.. it could be the wikdiw manager/terminal prog is grabbing the keys
[06:12] <sp0rk> i think ionwm has taken over my mod keys
[06:12] <sp0rk> dr_willis_: yeah
[06:12] <dr_willis_> Bingo sp0rk
[06:13] <sp0rk> oh well
[06:13] <Flannel> and, it's /window goto $
[06:13] <Flannel> er, #
[06:13] <sp0rk> yeah, i got that haha
[06:13] <sp0rk> typos =P
[06:13] <Tonren> Does ANYONE know what the deal with NetworkManager Applet is?  It's driving me crazy.
[06:14] <FirstStrike> What IS the deal?
[06:14] <jbmigel> Tonren i know the deal... 3 queens and a low spade
[06:14] <wweasel> Tonren: What's wrong with it?
[06:14] <casey_> does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:14] <sp0rk> jbmigel: that's a good deal
[06:14] <casey_> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[06:14] <casey_> what does this Mean?
[06:15] <wweasel> casey_: I am guessing here, but maybe you need gstreamer-plugins-base or good?
[06:15] <bruenig> casey_, do you have the gstreamer stuff
[06:15] <casey_> yeah I think so
[06:15] <Tonren> wweasel: Okay... first off: It has NO configuration options.  You can ONLY disable/enable it.  Next: It's ALWAYS wrong.  When I'm connected (wired OR wireless), it says "no connections."  Third: I CAN'T GET RID OF IT!  The "Delete" option in GNOME startup session manager is grayed out, and I "Disabled" it but it's STILL there.
[06:15] <casey_> it works on my user but not on a new user I created
[06:15] <nmnguyet> hi
[06:15] <casey_> so I know it works
[06:15] <wweasel> Tonren: Uninstall it in synaptic.
[06:16] <dr_willis_> wweasel,  :P thats sort of what i said
[06:16] <nmnguyet> after installed libc6, locales is now broken
[06:16] <jbmigel> Tonren, you know your right... it isn't a very good applet
[06:16] <nmnguyet> how can i do?
[06:16] <wweasel> Tonren: But it sounds like it is partcularly screwed on your system, cause I use it and so do many I know and it works quite well.
[06:16] <Tonren> wweasel: dr_willis_: AH!  There it is.  dr_willis_ I didn't notice that you gave me the package name before, thanks
[06:16] <Tonren> wweasel: I do everything via the comand line anyway
[06:16] <dr_willis_> Tonren,  several packagtes actually.
[06:16] <sp0rk> Tonren: you could aways try to uninstall it if you find out what the package name is in apt, you really don't *need* it for wireless connectivity
[06:17] <wweasel> Tonren: On this channel I tend to assume people want the GUI way
[06:17] <Tonren> wweasel: Not me.  ;P
[06:17] <Tonren> sp0rk: I just use CLI anyway
[06:17] <wweasel> Toren, jbmigel: I would say it has alot of room for improvement. But I find it an improvement over the included network managing tools
[06:17] <Tonren> wweasel: Actually, recently Ubuntu no longer runs "dhclient" on eth0 on bootup, and I have to run it myself every time I log in.  :\
[06:17] <Tonren> wweasel: I can't figure out what the problem with that is.
[06:17] <sp0rk> Tonren: yeah, just do some research and untinstall it, is what i'd do.  I haven't had any issues with it, but you problem sounds annoying
[06:18] <ToHellWithGA> how can i clean my package archive?  i'd like to remove all packages that are currently not installed, particularly packages that have newer versions installed now
[06:18] <Tonren> sp0rk: Yeah, I uninstalled it w/ aptitude
[06:18] <wweasel> Tonren: Check out /etc/network/interfaces - if you are uninstalling network-manager-gnome, you want everything in there uncommented.
[06:19] <Tonren> wweasel: Everything was anyway :\
[06:19] <casey_> how do I view all of the members of the groups I have
[06:19] <djperegrin1> subversion
[06:19] <djperegrin1> how do you get subversion :O
[06:19] <sp0rk> so i bought some hard cider thinking my girlfriend is going to be up here this weekend, and she coudln't make it up, and so i'm left with only hard cider to drink because i drank all my beer.  This is a travesty.
[06:19] <djperegrin1> what sources do I have to add
[06:19] <djperegrin1> ?
[06:20] <dr_willis_> ToHellWithGA,  i recall a smartclean/clean option - but i forget which apt-XYZ program used it.
[06:20] <nmnguyet> i need to reinstall glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu15 but libc6 is sellected instead of
[06:20] <Nep8750> bong the cider
[06:20] <Tonren> Does anyone know what Automatix does to install flash support in Firefox, and how to get rid of it?  Because it doesn't work.
[06:20] <ToHellWithGA> i found something on the wiki that might help, dr_willis_.  if that doesn't work, i'll be back in a few minutes :)
[06:20] <casey_> how do I check the users in the groups
[06:20] <sp0rk> Nep8750: you know...that would actually be decently pleasant
[06:21] <casey_> because I think this user needs to be part of a certain group
[06:21] <nmnguyet> how can i remove libc6? please help!
[06:21] <littlekiss> ?
[06:21] <dr_willis_> apt-get  autoclean
[06:21] <dr_willis_> :)
[06:22] <casey_> does anyone know how to view the groups
[06:22] <sp0rk> casey_: cat /etc/group
[06:22] <jbmigel> casey_ try groups
[06:22] <Kyral> groups
[06:22] <littlekiss> apt-get xxx remove
[06:22] <nmnguyet> dr_willis_: is it?
[06:22] <sp0rk> casey_: or even better cat /etc/group | more
[06:22] <Kyral> s/more/less
[06:22] <dr_willis_> nmnguyet,  listed right there in the man pages..
[06:23] <casey_> thanks
[06:23] <sp0rk> psh, i like more.
[06:23] <sp0rk> more > less
[06:23] <jbmigel> less!
[06:23] <Kyral> most!
[06:23] <dr_willis_> Like clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files.
[06:23] <sp0rk> though i'm also used to bsd more, which is better than gnu more
[06:24] <sp0rk> much more intuitive in it's navigation
[06:24] <CiRuS> has anyone else lost the "admin" group??
[06:24] <sp0rk> CiRuS: i have not
[06:24] <CiRuS> It disappeared somewhere around the gnome 2.16 update
[06:24] <CiRuS> hmm
[06:24] <EpP> I had to reformat my windows partition... but my linux is still intact. But i lost my GRUB... so i cant boot anything... how do i restore it, im on the live cd now.
[06:24] <jbmigel> wow there are alot of default groups. it looks like the windows registry in there!
[06:25] <dr_willis_> !grub
[06:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:25] <nmnguyet> dr_willis_, still broken:(
[06:25] <triplc> please help: if i mix edgy and dapper, please tell me what "priority" i need to set for dapper and edgy?
[06:25] <dr_willis_> nmnguyet,  what is? ive totally frogotten what i had for dinner.. much less your problem.. :P
[06:25] <triplc> please help: if i mix edgy and dapper, please tell me what "priority" i need to set for dapper and edgy? (file: /etc/apt/preferences)
[06:26] <dr_willis_> Im lucky to rember my own nickname.
[06:26] <triplc> (i want to have latest blue fish)
[06:26] <matthew_w> One very odd question, is there a way to send a text message to my phone via the command line?
[06:26] <nmnguyet> well, i installed libc6 and then glibc2.3.2 was remocved
[06:26] <nmnguyet> so locales is removed now
[06:26] <nmnguyet> I cannot reconfigure locales anymore
[06:27] <CiRuS> so what I don't get is that there is no admin group but I can still sudo .... weird
[06:27] <triplc> nmnguyet: ban la nguoi Viet nam a?
[06:27] <Jenga> When compiling a kernel, is there a way to go back to the configuration from the previous compile if there are only a couple of things you want to change?
[06:27] <dr_willis_> Err.. you are messing with things that are best left alone when ya start messing with libc and glibc :P
[06:27] <nmnguyet> triplc, u`
[06:27] <triplc> moi dung ubuntu may tha'ng nay :)
[06:27] <jbmigel> mattew_w http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux_sms.html
[06:28] <iceman> ok, dang it, tried installing the nvidia drive and now the system wont boot fully, gets to hardware detection and hangs
[06:28] <iceman> now i am booted to the live system
[06:28] <graft> Jenga: you can copy your old .config somewhere and restore it later
[06:28] <dr_willis_> Jenga,  its stored in a . file..    .config (I think)
[06:29] <Jenga> where?
[06:29] <axisys> StoneNote: thnx.. i am using Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG card
[06:29] <triplc> someone please help me: if i mix edgy and dapper, please tell me what "priority" i need to set for dapper and edgy? (file: /etc/apt/preferences)
[06:29] <dr_willis_> Jenga,  in the linxu source dir where the kernel source is
[06:29] <dr_willis_> !kernel
[06:29] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:29] <iceman> stupid nvidia drivers
[06:29] <billybennett> wweasel, I for the life of me cannot connect to my wireless router :(
[06:29] <StoneNote> axisys, yw. good luck :)
[06:29] <BMWodarski> billy what wifi card are you using?
[06:30] <BMWodarski> can you see the AP at all?
[06:30] <iceman> damit about to just reinstall and try again. almost faster
[06:30] <wweasel> billybennett: WPA2 is a bit iffy.  I have it working on one of my linux boxen but not the other.
[06:30] <nmnguyet> triplc, ban lam viec o dau vay?
[06:30] <Jenga> dr_willis_: Thanks. So, can I just open that file with qconf and start from there?
[06:30] <BMWodarski> oh nvm
[06:30] <vincenz> Why is checkinstall being kept back?
[06:30] <billybennett> yeah I can see the AP..... Ive had it working with WPA1 a couple weeks ago
[06:30] <iceman> mount the harddrive, reconfigur ever stinking thing, reboot. shoot
[06:30] <triplc> nmnguyet, minh lam o HanoiCTT, giang day ve Linux
[06:30] <Tonren> vincenz: That's been happening to me, too.  I don't know why.
[06:30] <RogerRabb> Hey, I've shared a few folders in ubuntu, and I'm trying to access it from a windows machine.. it's asking for a username and password, but the ones I enter (my linux username and password) isn't working..Any idea?
[06:30] <billybennett> before I re-installed :P
[06:30] <vincenz> It tells me to "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" so I do and it tells me that still it is being kept back
[06:30] <vincenz> Tonren: ah, odd
[06:30] <BMWodarski> I don't mess with wpa just because it's a pain in the ass
[06:30] <Tonren> RogerRabb: Have you tried leaving it blank?
[06:31] <smoked1> If I install something that is for kde will it work with gnome?
[06:31] <EpP> what partition would my bootloader be on?
[06:31] <Tonren> smoked1: Yes.
[06:31] <wweasel> billybennett: I would recommend you put your router in WPA2 Mixed mode (can accept WPA standard connections)
[06:31] <RogerRabb> yep I have Tonren
[06:31] <nmnguyet> triplc, chac gioi lam:d nho ban xem ho cai loi nay ho minh
[06:31] <billybennett> hmmmm
[06:31] <triplc> nmnguyet, goi la giang day thoi, chu biet ve Linux con it lam
[06:31] <smoked1> Tonren: Thanks
[06:31] <wweasel> billybennett: Then just connect in regular WPA.
[06:31] <triplc> nmnguyet, loi cua ban la gi?
[06:31] <RogerRabb> tried just user without password, and tried password without username..I don't know if it's the right password or at all.. it works for logging into ubuntu over ssh fine and such
[06:32] <billybennett> wweasel, my modes are WPA2 Only, WPA2, WPA  .. my guess WPA2
[06:32] <nmnguyet> minh cai libc6, no de len cai glibc-2.3.2 va the la locales cung bi remove luon
[06:32] <EpP> is there anyway to know what partition my bootloader whould be on?
[06:32] <triplc> nmnguyet, uh oh!!!  cai do kho lam, minh ko^ biet dau
[06:32] <Tonren> RogerRabb: Try tooling around with System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[06:32] <kupesoft> How can i get my system to beep (using PHP)
[06:32] <billybennett> what about.. tkip or AES
[06:32] <BMWodarski> anyone know of a way to get a 3d desktop working? I ot the 3d desktop app from synaptic but it doesn't run constanly always have to run it from console
[06:32] <wweasel> billybennett: To be honest, the improvements between WPA and WPA2 are negligible.  If you have a good 64 char full ascii character no one will crack regular WPA in a hundred years.
[06:32] <iceman> stupid "Nvidia" drivers.
[06:32] <RogerRabb> Tonren yeah that's how I shared them.. didn't see any option to set a username or password in there
[06:32] <wweasel> billybennett: full ascii password is what I meant. God it's too late here.
[06:33] <elkbuntu> triplc, is there no loco channel for whichever asian dialect you are speaking?
[06:33] <Tonren> RogerRabb: Hmmm...
[06:33] <nmnguyet> triplc, dinh den may goi lib nay so that, thoi cam on ban nhe:)
[06:33] <wweasel> billybennett: And yes, I'd imagine that if you set it to WPA2 you could connect with regular WPA.
[06:33] <smoked1> Anyone here ever get Ubuntu to connect to a Sonicwall VPN?
[06:33] <iceman> a simple step by freaking step install guide would be great
[06:33] <billybennett> wweasel, I'm not as familar with WPA as I'am with WEP... I thought WPA wasnt using ascii characters just a pre-share key
[06:33] <triplc> elkbuntu, sorry, just one or two words. sorry, back to english now
[06:33] <Flashq009> hello all
[06:34] <triplc> elkbuntu, btw, no local chan for vietnamese
[06:34] <graft> iceman: what's the prob? they should just pop in... what're you doing that's so rough and tough?
[06:34] <sp0rk> iceman: for some reason they installed without any trouble for me
[06:34] <wweasel> billybennett: Yeah, it uses a pre shared key. That is in ascii. But after that, it is modulating the encryption (so that it can't be cracked like WEP).
[06:34] <elkbuntu> triplc, it would be worth looking into establishing one
[06:34] <Tonren> Is there native AMD64 flash and Wine support, yet?
[06:34] <billybennett> wweasel, gotcha :) WEP is an easy kill lol... <20 mins
[06:34] <iceman> graft in tried, rebooted, reset bios to the card, and the system just hung at hardware detection stage.
[06:35] <kaitlyn> Hello, if I try to start X manually, I get the following error: "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[06:35] <graft> iceman: are you installing from the repos or from nvidia website?
[06:35] <iceman> graft repos
[06:35] <kaitlyn> " and am wondering if anyone has seen this before or knows how to fix it?
[06:35] <Flashq009> I just finished installing Ubuntu on a computer.  Now I want to be able to use Remote Desktop, which I have already enabled.  I would like to access it from a windows computer, but cannot seem to get it to work,  Any hellp is appreciated.  Thanks
[06:35] <graft> reset bios to the card?
[06:35] <triplc> elkbuntu, migh be so.
[06:36] <RogerRabb> Tonren any idea?
[06:36] <wweasel> billybennett: If WPA2 doesn't want to work, use WPA and don't lose any sleep over it. The difference between the two is slight and not particularly important.
[06:36] <elkbuntu> triplc, i've PM'd you a howto link
[06:36] <Tonren> RogerRabb: Sorry man, I got nothin'...
[06:36] <iceman> graft has onboard video, have to instll using it, the install the nvidia drivers and reset bios to the card then bring up linux
[06:36] <AngryElf_> Flashq009, remote desktop in ubnut is vnc
[06:36] <kaitlyn> Notes:  Starting from inside an X session (Trying to run a second configuration with -screen that let's me use my TV for playing media)
[06:36] <AngryElf_> Flashq009, download a realVNC client for windows
[06:36] <billybennett> wweasel, alrighty... any thoughts on TKIP vs AES or both?
[06:36] <thedash> does it mean anything in particular if the system monitor reports my entire RAM as being cached?
[06:36] <vincenz> Hmm, is there any work on other support mechanisms than IRC?  I think that as the number of users grow, IRC becomes unmanageable (text goes by too fast)
[06:37] <Flashq009> AngryElf_: Will the Ultravnc viewer work?
[06:37] <someone> there's an ubuntu wiki & fourms
[06:37] <jbmigel> vincenz there is a forum if you cant keep up here
[06:37] <billybennett> brb wweasel gonna restart the router (ugg)
[06:37] <AngryElf_> Flashq009, i've only ever used realVNC, yours might
[06:37] <wweasel> billybennett: To be honest, I am curious about that.  I think AES is technically better. But once again, it didn't work on Ubuntu, so I use TKIP.
[06:37] <kaitlyn> vincenz: With a good client, and people using your name to address you, you can have message hilights that make it easy for you to keep up with.  Forums/message boards and email lists probably also exist.
[06:38] <iceman> graft i'm reinstalling, then i'll try again. by the time I would mount the drive, get premissions, reconfig the files,  reboot, i can reinstall
[06:38] <bug_> hi everyone.. is this the correct channel for edgy questions/problems?
[06:38] <Flashq009> AngryElf: I tried it the ultra vnc but it could not connect it kept saying connecting.
[06:38] <vincenz> jbmigel: I was listening to a speech by mark shuttleworth he gave in poland (was looking through his blog, then found that wiki page, and then saw he gavea speech).  He made a comment regarding a new system, is this going to be used? A mentor-mentee system?
[06:38] <wweasel> billybennett: Really, WPA + TKIP is pretty damn secure. I know that. I use a randomly generated full ascii PSK, so I feel very safe. In terms of AES/TKIP, I set it to both.
[06:38] <vincenz> kaitlyn: oh I know, but if you're not someone being helped but someone helping... I use irrsi personally and that works great :)
[06:38] <gnaff> bug_, no, but it will be funny to see you ask
[06:38] <wweasel> !edgy
[06:38] <Flashq009> AngryElf: I wil download realvnc viewer and see if that will work.
[06:38] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:39] <iceman> 97% done already :)
[06:39] <billybennett> I dont know what my router is generating after I do the pre-share key... Ive got a Dlink router with the "game fuel" it seems like a very good consumer router
[06:39] <bug_> ah.. thanks. i'll head over there now
[06:39] <kaitlyn> vincenz: irssi for me also.  :)
[06:39] <jbmigel> vincenz that sounds like a nice idea if you have committed members. Would be difficult to "mentor" a person that is only around for 3 minutes
[06:39] <kaitlyn> vincenz: Screen + irssi on a home server works great.  :)
[06:39] <vincenz> kaitlyn: I wish it were able to pass over an http proxy, at work we have an http proxy so I have to use GAIM :/
[06:39] <vincenz> kaitlyn: definitely :)
[06:39] <iceman> someone got a minute in a few to walk me through the nvidia install
[06:40] <billybennett> wweasel, brb gotta restart this thing :)
[06:40] <wweasel> billybennett: For that kinda detail, I would do some reasearch.  The basic idea is that cracking WEP is like stealing candy from a baby with dull teeth.  Cracking WPA is brute forcing.
[06:40] <vincenz> jbmigel: true, there were some people objecting to the idea because it might lead to a lot of "spammy question" and not real requests for mentorship
[06:40] <wweasel> Billybennett: k, talk to you soon
[06:40] <kaitlyn> vincenz: If you have a home linux server, why not use ssh forwarding?  Or use irssi and bitlbee?
[06:40] <iceman> ok reboot :)
[06:40] <vincenz> kaitlyn: well I typically turn my linux server off as of late cause my CPU fan makes a s*tload of noise, besides I have my own laptop which  I shuttle back and forth to the office,
[06:41] <vincenz> kaitlyn: but I'll look into bitlbee
[06:41] <rayston> I just installed xubuntu on this ancient compaq, and I go to login for the first time and it says that it cannot write to my authorization file because my HD is full
[06:41] <rayston> it is a rather small HD, 1.3 gigs
[06:41] <rayston> anyone know any files I can delete from the default install without hurting anything?
[06:42] <jbmigel> rayston i think the default install is only a cd in size right
[06:42] <vincenz> kaitlyn: oh, no I think you misunderstood me.  Ihave to use GAIM to contact IRC because GAIM has the http-proxy possibility, irssi does not, or at least I haven't figured out how to set it up.  I know it is strange, but all our traffic goes over that proxy, we even have a perl script to tunnel ssh over it
[06:42] <kaitlyn> vincenz: It is pretty cool.  You connect to it as if it's an irc server, and it gateways AIM, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, Jabber, and I think others.
[06:43] <kaitlyn> vincenz: SOCKS4, SOCKS5?
[06:43] <vincenz> kaitlyn: HTTP
[06:43] <rayston> it says you need a minimum of 1.4 gigs
[06:43] <vincenz> kaitlyn: That's the option that works at least.  that's also why GAIM works and amsn doesnt
[06:44] <gnaff> vincenz, irssi does http proxies
[06:44] <kaitlyn> vincenz: Hmmm, googled, doesn't seem like it will do that.
[06:45] <gnaff> vincenz, i use it with Tor and Privoxy all the time
[06:45] <vincenz> gnaff: ah neat :)  I tried just setting the http_proxy setting but that didn't do it
[06:45] <vincenz> kaitlyn: anyways, bitlbee looks nonetheless like a neat app :)
[06:46] <varsendaggr> where do i edit my virtual desktops
[06:46] <billybennett> wweasel, WPA2 w/ TKIP did the trick! w00t!
[06:46] <jbmigel> rayston you can probably remove openoffice and free up alot of space if you dont need it.
[06:46] <iceman> !nvidia
[06:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:47] <wweasel> billybennett: Yay! I know from personal experience that Wireless is arguably the most important thing to get working in Linux. It certainly was for me.
[06:47] <billybennett> wweasel, yeah it was only for fun before.. but I moved into an apartment and there are ALOT of wireless signals... definately dont want anyone on it
[06:47] <anTiX_> help! my server is on it's knees and I'm not sure what's wrong.... :(
[06:48] <rayston> what folders are the program files in
[06:48] <anTiX_> what's the process [v6]  ? I got lots running...
[06:48] <vincenz> kaitlyn: so you're part of the ubuntu community?
[06:49] <iceman> ok, Nvidia 4000 card, thet would be which driver ? anyone
[06:49] <wweasel> billybennett: I can understand that. I've gone on roadtrips with my laptop and left netstumbler on. I think I logged about 2000 APs, a good sample, and it showed that 2/3s were unencrypted.
[06:50] <billybennett> wweasel, lol!
[06:50] <philwyett> iceman: Legacy driver
[06:50] <jbmigel> iceman can you run "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell me what is sayd
[06:50] <wweasel> billybennett: the other fun part was watching for funny AP names.
[06:50] <iceman> jbmigel sec
[06:50] <Flashq009> can someone please help me figure out how to connect  Ubuntu desktop which is already Enable for remote desktop from a windows computer.  thanks in advance.
[06:51] <EpP> in the live cd there is a thing to pass boot options... how would i boot my windows partition?
[06:51] <jbmigel> EpP id just remove the live cd and boot normally
[06:51] <iceman> jbmigel says direct rendering: Yes, but is that the onboard card ?
[06:52] <RogerRabb> Flashq009 grab a vnc viewer for windows.. then open that.. type in your ubuntu pcs ip address or computer name.. hit connect.. type in username and password
[06:52] <RogerRabb> and away you should go
[06:52] <RogerRabb> :)
[06:52] <jbmigel> iceman your 4000 card is already supported by xorg, no need for you to install anything
[06:52] <Flashq009>  RogerRabb:the vnc viewer does not seem to work
[06:53] <dr_willis_> Flashq009,  get an error message of some kind?
[06:53] <vincenz> kaitlyn, gnaff: something interesting: http://www.garion.org/irssi/irssi-proxy.php
[06:53] <EpP> jbmigel: i reinstalled windows.... it messed up grub and now gives me a error 17... so i cant get to my lenovo windows recovery.
[06:53] <iceman> jbmigel no cannot boot to the card, have to install to the onboard, then install the drivers, or teh system will lock up
[06:54] <Flashq009> dr_willis_:  the viewer continues to say "Attempting to connect to host..."
[06:54] <iceman> To me it looks like i want the GLX drive not the legacy driver
[06:54] <dr_willis_> Flashq009,  sounds almost liek a firewall is blocking it.
[06:54] <Flashq009> dr_willis_: in the vnc viewer, I put 192.168.0.102:5900
[06:55] <kaitlyn> vincenz: You can do pretty much the same with screen+irssi.
[06:55] <dr_willis_> you sure you want 5900 ? i though ya told it :0 or :1 or so on. and it added the 5900+
[06:55] <vincenz> kaitlyn: oh I know, jsut sounded technically nifty :)
[06:55] <kaitlyn> vincenz: hehe.
[06:55] <philwyett> iceman: Yes you do need nvidia-glx. My bad I thought those had been pushed to legacy.
[06:55] <EpP> so how do i boot a ntfs or fat32 partition?
[06:55] <vincenz> kaitlyn: and he points out a reason not to use screen :P
[06:55] <kaitlyn> Grrr, must get this fixed.
[06:55] <Flashq009> dr_willis_:I will try with the :0
[06:56] <kaitlyn> vincenz: I don't lag when typing.  :)
[06:56] <iceman> philwyett thats why last install froze "wrong driver"
[06:56] <RogerRabb> is 5900 the right port Flashq009? Can't remember the default (which is what ubuntu uses - the default)
[06:56] <philwyett> iceman: Your motheroard has onboard graphics?
[06:56] <iceman> yes
[06:57] <Flashq009> dr_willis_:the same thing "Attempting to connect to host..."  I do not know where to access the firewall on the ubuntu desktop
[06:57] <philwyett> iceman: The GF is a card you have added?
[06:57] <iceman> philwyett unfortunately
[06:57] <kaitlyn> And... where I worked we only had 80, 443, 25, and 110 outgoing ports to use.  I don't have incoming 25, or 80 because my ISP is stupid.  So I just ran the one sshd on 443.  :)
[06:57] <dr_willis_> Flashq009,  you sure windows is letting the request go out?
[06:57] <smoked1> Why when I install something from synapic and then go to uninstall it it does not uninstall the deoendencies that it installed?
[06:57] <levander> Anybody can tell me why certain directories get chopped of my PATH when I use sudo?
[06:57] <dr_willis_> Flashq009,  check 'iptables -l' see if ya got any firewalling rules set up.
[06:57] <iceman> philwyett yes, a old 400 64 meg card i have
[06:57] <iceman> 4000
[06:58] <iceman> Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8.
[06:58] <smoked1> Do I have to do them all one at a time?
[06:58] <philwyett> iceman: You have disabled the onboard adaptor how?
[06:58] <iceman> whats that part
[06:58] <Flashq009> dr_willis_: let me check
[06:58] <iceman> philwyett onboard is active in bio's, can only disable it there
[06:59] <iceman> philwyett but even disabled "ubuntu" will boot to the onboard and not see the card
[06:59] <godsmacko> how can i mount one nokia 3250?
[06:59] <AngryElf_>  the last time i installed ubuntu it took < 10 minutes.  Now its' taking "40 minutes" -- and the last HD that was in there succomed to major I/O errors...diagnosis?
[07:00] <levander> like if you put 'fortune' at the command line, you get the one line of output, if you put 'sudo fortune' you get 'command not found'
[07:00] <iceman> philwyett here i get lost installed the glx driver, but what kernel module do i get
[07:00] <Flashq009> dr_willis_: hey man, what a bummer, I forgot that stupeed norton firewall crap, it did not even tell me that the vnc viewer wanted to access the net
[07:00] <Flashq009> thanks
[07:00] <philwyett> iceman: Is there a jumper on the motherboard to diable the onboard adptor?
[07:00] <iceman> philwyett no jumper
[07:00] <Flashq009> dr_willis_:thank you
[07:01] <Flashq009> dr_willis_:problem solved
[07:01] <philwyett> iceman: You need to have nvidia-common and nvidia-glx installed
[07:01] <dr_willis_> Flashq009,  it was windows fault?!
[07:01] <iceman> whats the standard module for a P4 system install, the how-to says i need to install one
[07:02] <philwyett> iceman: They are the modules required. All other kernel modules are handled by other packaged and should be already installed.
[07:02] <Flashq009> dr_willis_:I think i pulled out all my hair after trying to figured this out. LOL
[07:02] <philwyett> s/packaged/packages
[07:02] <iceman> anyone what do i need for line 6 here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia on a Standard Pentium 4 install which one do i install
[07:03] <Flashq009> dr_willis_:that windows or norton or both
[07:04] <iceman> does the standard install use 386 or 686 modules ?
[07:04] <philwyett> 386
[07:05] <iceman> philwyett Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386 that module then ?
[07:05] <peruvian> hello everyone
[07:05] <sharap> I'm in 1280x1024 resolution and I started up AlienArena for the first time, after quitting it's stuck in 640x480 mode and I have to scroll around the screen with my mouse, how do I fix that?
[07:06] <sharap> nevermind, went to smaller resolution and back to 1280x1024 and it's fixed
[07:06] <philwyett> iceman: Yes
[07:07] <shannon> ok
[07:08] <iceman> philwyett well time to try a reboot "again"
[07:08] <iceman> brb i hope
[07:09] <Clodaus> Hey guys is there a linux command to clear the MBR? GRUB has somehow messed it up and now windows is unable to rewrite the MBR
[07:09] <Clodaus> or at least a way to get GRUB off the MBR
[07:10] <TC_> can someone please help me..i have windows xp on my c drive and ubuntu on my d drive..i had problems with xp so i reinstalled it on my c drive..i didnt touch my d drive but for some reason now grub doesnt load up..i think windows deleted the swap partition but im not sure what to do?
[07:10] <dr_willis_> Clodaus,  i dont think that can happen. windows should be able to write to the mbr.
[07:10] <dr_willis_> Clodaus,  you could use 'dd' to blank out the mbr.. but if used wrongly = blank out the hard drive
[07:11] <dr_willis_> TC_,  windows overwrote the MBR with its own. thus removeing the grub loader
[07:11] <dr_willis_> !grub
[07:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:11] <TC_> ty
[07:11] <TC_> so it is possible to reinstall grub and not touch my ubuntu?
[07:11] <Clodaus> Partition Magic gives me a parition error, and Vista's installation says it can't access the volume root when attempting to rewrite the MBR. Fdisk simply says it can't write it
[07:11] <TC_> like i have my ubuntu all set up good
[07:12] <Clodaus> I can try dd if there's nothing else I can do. I can't boot Windows with GRUB for some reason, tried everything. If I can do that then none of this will be aproblem
[07:13] <TC_> dr_willis_: is there no other way for me now other then to use a floppy?
[07:14] <dr_willis_> theres a dozen ways :P but it will benifit you to read up on grub and how tit works.
[07:14] <dr_willis_> You can boot the live cd, chroot over to the ubuntu installed system and rerun update-grub (i think)
[07:14] <cafuego> dr_willis_: Yes, you can.
[07:14] <TC_> dr_willis_:  that sounds great and all but if i have to spend ages learning how to get back into my ubuntu it will drive me nuts and prolly back to a format lol
[07:15] <TC_> "least tell me the best type of method i should look up..i want it back like it was before
[07:16] <TC_> dr_willis_:  ok thanx
[07:16] <dr_willis_> The Grub homepage has the definitive docs.
[07:16] <dr_willis_> #1 grub tip - it starts counting the drives at 0 :P not 1
[07:16] <dr_willis_> hda1 = hd0,0
[07:17] <fonz2591> hey all
[07:17] <TC_> what command do i need to get into root jus type chroot? im very new to linux
[07:17] <PhilKC> TC_, su?
[07:17] <TC_> no
[07:17] <sp0rk> Kr0ntab: i like your name.
[07:17] <fonz2591> type 'sudo' before a command
[07:18] <TC_> i mean if im on the live cd
[07:18] <TC_> and wanna get into my installed ubuntu
[07:18] <Kr0ntab> w0rd.  :-)
[07:18] <fonz2591> try passwod 'roor'
[07:18] <fonz2591> *password
[07:18] <fonz2591> *root
[07:18] <TC_> k
[07:18] <kingtut> Salutations!
[07:19] <fonz2591> wait..
[07:19] <fonz2591> i take it back
[07:19] <sp0rk> combining the kushian arts with unix, it's always a good thing to do
[07:19] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[07:19] <fonz2591> i think u can just do 'sudo' before a command..
[07:19] <fonz2591> and u don't need a passwd
[07:19] <TC_> u dont get what im saying
[07:19] <TC_> i am on the live cd as in not the installed type..but i wanna get into my installed ubuntu so i can update grub
[07:20] <bjorn_> TC_, I think 'man dchroot' will help you
[07:20] <TC_> bjorn ty
[07:20] <fonz2591> ah
[07:20] <fonz2591> k
[07:21] <bjorn_> TC_: sorry, my ba
[07:21] <bjorn_> TC_,  you want 'man chroot'
[07:21] <TC_> kk lol
[07:21] <TC_> ok im in
[07:21] <TC_> hmm looks wierd
[07:22] <bjorn_> do you know which drive ubuntu is on?
[07:22] <TC_> my D drive
[07:22] <TC_> hdb i think
[07:22] <_cerberus_> Is it possible to install a basic server install (i.e. no live cd, no X) from the ubuntu dapper desktop install cd?
[07:22] <bjorn_> ok, you have two physical drives ?
[07:22] <TC_> yes
[07:22] <bjorn_> not just one w/ multiple partitions
[07:22] <bjorn_> cool
[07:22] <bjorn_> so it might be
[07:22] <TC_> nah i got windows on a c master drive and ubuntu on d master
[07:22] <bjorn_> chroot /dev/hdb bash
[07:23] <TC_> k
[07:23] <TC_> chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hdb: Not a directory
[07:24] <bjorn_> ok
[07:24] <gnaff> TC_, don't do that, mount the existing install, then chroot into it
[07:24] <bjorn_> so you need to mount the partition first
[07:24] <TC_> i know my d drive is split in 2 for ubuntu
[07:24] <dr_willis_> You MOUNT the place.. then chroot into the dir
[07:24] <dr_willis_> :P
[07:24] <Clodaus> okay guys turns out I can't even reformat my HDD. I get a "bad argument/parameter" error from Partition Magic. any ideas on how to fix it before I go wiping it out?
[07:24] <_cerberus_> TC, /dev/hdb1
[07:24] <TC_> kk
[07:24] <bjorn_> TC_, and it should have been /dev/hdb1
[07:24] <gnaff> TC_,  mkdir /mnt/hdb1 ; mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 ; chroot /mnt/hdb1
[07:25] <bjorn_> ^  yea, what he said :D
[07:25] <TC_> lol
[07:25] <TC_> ok i think im in
[07:25] <gnaff> sorry, i could only take so much ;)
[07:25] <TC_> o never mind
[07:25] <dr_willis_> mount -t proc none /media/hdc1/proc      and/OR   mount -o bind /dev /media/hdc1/dev          may be needed
[07:25] <bjorn_> lol,  I was about to get there ;D
[07:25] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mkdir /mnt/hdb1 ; mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 ; chroot /mnt/hdb1
[07:25] <TC_> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[07:25] <TC_> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[07:25] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[07:26] <TC_> opps sorry
[07:26] <gnaff> TC_, well what is your ubuntu install mounted on?
[07:26] <iceman> Freaking nvidia driver did not work again dambit
[07:26] <TC_> umm im sure its hdb1 and 2
[07:26] <TC_> hdb1 hdb2
[07:26] <gnaff> TC_, well try hdb2
[07:26] <TC_> k
[07:27] <TC_> grh none of them work
[07:27] <bjorn_> TC ls /dev/hd*
[07:27] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# ls /dev/hd*
[07:27] <TC_> /dev/hda  /dev/hdb
[07:28] <bjorn_> hmm, no partitions. . . wierd
[07:28] <TC_> i got windows on my C drive
[07:28] <TC_> pls dont say wierd
[07:28] <TC_> i will cry if i loss all my stuff
[07:28] <bjorn_> right, that's your two drives there
[07:28] <TC_> yeah
[07:28] <TC_> hda=windows
[07:28] <TC_> i think
[07:28] <bjorn_> should be
[07:29] <TC_> wierd i cant get into hdb
[07:29] <bjorn_> but you should have also /dev/hdb1
[07:29] <gnaff> TC_, well i'll let bjorn- help you find your installation
[07:29] <bjorn_> that'd be the first partition on the second ide drive
[07:29] <TC_> im nearly sure i had 3 hdb on D drive before i reinstalled windows on C drive but now i only got 2 hdb...the swap was deleted?
[07:30] <TiG4> Hi
[07:31] <dr_willis_> TC_,  you do have 2 hard drives in the machine? not 1 hard drive?
[07:31] <TC_> i tell you one thing i can understand ppl hateing windows so much now...i mean i was jus playing a game all was good and boom got blue screen of death next thing i knew my windows sys files where damaged
[07:31] <matthew_w> How would I send a simple email message using the command line?
[07:31] <bjorn_> lol
[07:31] <TC_> dr_willis_:  yes i definatly have 2 hard drives
[07:31] <noobie0057> hello,, I have a USB keyboard with a bunch of fancy keys on it...
[07:31] <dr_willis_> TC_,   fdisk -l   will show what drives are where.
[07:31] <TC_> k
[07:31] <bjorn_> well, I prefer linux cause it lets me do so much more of what I want :)
[07:31] <TC_> ahh i see the problem
[07:31] <TC_> sdb*
[07:31] <TC_> lmfao
[07:32] <TC_> im a noob sorry ppl
[07:32] <CiRuS> matthew_w, try mutt
[07:32] <bjorn_> sata drive?
[07:32] <TC_> i dont know
[07:32] <TC_> i got 3 linux drives doh now
[07:32] <gnaff> or usb
[07:32] <gnaff> lol
[07:32] <bjorn_> my sata is sda
[07:32] <TC_> /dev/sdb1   *           1       18700   150207718+  83  Linux
[07:32] <bjorn_> yea, there you go
[07:32] <TC_> /dev/sdb2           18701       19457     6080602+   5  Extended
[07:32] <matthew_w> CiRus; and with that would I be able to just go something like "send "haha this is a message ftw" to matthew@gmail.com"  or so?
[07:32] <gnaff> TC_, well, now mount and chroot into that puppy!
[07:32] <mythril> is there a way to disable networking setup during boot?
[07:32] <TC_> /dev/sdb5           18701       19457     6080571   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:32] <bjorn_> mount that, and . . .what he said :P
[07:33] <TC_> kk into sdb1?
[07:33] <bjorn_> you want /dev/sdb2
[07:33] <TC_> o ok
[07:33] <bjorn_> err 1
[07:33] <TC_> lol
[07:33] <CiRuS> matthew_w, not quite its a text based email client
[07:33] <TC_> why do i have a sdb5 and not sdb3?
[07:33] <gnaff> heh, i don't even know what he needs to fix once he's chrooted in
[07:34] <matthew_w> CiRuS; so... what would accomplish what I just said, then?
[07:34] <bjorn_> TC_ who knows, just how it does it I guess
[07:34] <TC_> o ok
[07:34] <TC_> anyways back to this crap ok which one of u is the master " this
[07:34] <_cerberus_> Is it possible to install ubuntu from the live cd if you only want a base install and the computer you're installing to doesn't meet the minimum requirements for the live cd?
[07:34] <TC_> there can be no mistakes hahahaha
[07:34] <tamacracker> Hey what's up guys?
[07:34] <TC_> rotf
[07:34] <TC_> bjorn_ ignored*
[07:34] <TC_> :P
[07:35] <CiRuS> matthew_w, not exactly no
[07:35] <gnaff> TC_,  mkdir /mnt/sdb2 ; mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb2 ; chroot /mnt/sdb2
[07:35] <TC_> k
[07:35] <tamacracker> >.> that was a final fantasy member "bjorn"
[07:35] <TC_> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:35] <TC_> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[07:35] <_cerberus_> With 5.10 you could simply type server at the install prompt, this doesn't work anymore
[07:35] <bjorn_> TC_ 'man grub-install'
[07:35] <TC_> that didnt work doh
[07:36] <bjorn_> TC_ oh, we're not there yet :D
[07:36] <TC_> no where now
[07:36] <TC_> not*
[07:36] <TC_> give it an hour or so
[07:36] <gnaff> TC_, lol, well you are very close haha. i have to go. Good luck bjorn-
[07:36] <mythril> is there a way to disable networking setup during boot?
[07:36] <TC_> see ya
[07:36] <noobie0057> never mind I got it
[07:36] <TC_> bjorn u cant leave
[07:37] <tamacracker> Does anyone know what's a reliable MP3 player for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake addition?
[07:37] <TC_> i will kill myself in my sleep
[07:37] <CiRuS> matthew_w, but "mail" would
[07:37] <bjorn_> heh,  I'm not going anywhere (yet)
[07:37] <TC_> k
[07:37] <TC_> that didnt work
[07:37] <TC_> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:37] <TC_> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[07:37] <TC_> gave me that
[07:37] <_cerberus_> tamacracker,  xmms with lame installed
[07:37] <tamacracker> amarok will not play mp3s even with xile
[07:37] <bjorn_> although I just noticed my nic is not the one it's supposed to be
[07:37] <TC_> lol
[07:37] <mythril> is there a way to disable networking setup during boot?
[07:38] <usli> people
[07:38] <tamacracker> ?
[07:38] <usli> does ubuntu have an application to open visio ?
[07:39] <TC_> bjorn u got any idea why its not letting me in
[07:39] <usli> ??
[07:39] <link_36p> Is there any way to repair a really messed up package situation?
[07:39] <bjorn_> TC_, lost track of the command you R running already . .
[07:39] <TC_> link it takes 8 minutes to install ubuntu
[07:39] <TC_> bjorn ok i typed this in root
[07:39] <_cerberus_> lots of distros don't like distributing mp3 decoders for some reason or another, LAME is an mp3 decoder, I've nevr tried using it with amarok but it definately works with xmms, failing that you could always go with mplayer
[07:39] <matthew_w> CiRuS; but then there's the gross complication of turning my machine into a mailserver?
[07:39] <TC_> mkdir /mnt/sdb2 ; mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb2 ; chroot /mnt/sdb2
[07:39] <TC_> and got this
[07:40] <TC_> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:40] <TC_> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[07:40] <tamacracker> mplayer?
[07:40] <usli> dude
[07:40] <usli> i need help
[07:40] <TC_> usli type visio ubuntu in google man
[07:40] <link_36p> bjorn_ i have alot of stuff on here that i dont want to lose (pictures config files many ours of work perfecting setup)
[07:40] <usli> thanks
[07:40] <_cerberus_> yeah, it comes with it's own mp3 decoder built in.
[07:40] <tamacracker> forgive me for askin, but would you happen to have the direct link to mplayer? I'm assuming it does not need a plug in to play mp3s?
[07:40] <TC_> tamacracker goto packman.com
[07:40] <bjorn_> TC_ well, lets start w/ the first command
[07:41] <TC_> bjorn_k
[07:41] <_cerberus_> www.mplayerhq.hu/ , you'll need to compile it, but that's easy as
[07:41] <_cerberus_> ust read the instructions
[07:41] <link_36p> ops
[07:41] <link_36p> TC_ i have alot of stuff on here that i dont want to lose (pictures config files many ours of work perfecting setup)
[07:41] <TC_> jus use alien with the rpm from packman alot easier
[07:41] <tamacracker> thank you, i'll go there right now and check it out :)
[07:41] <TC_> link burn them to dvd
[07:41] <bjorn_> I think you managed to create /mnt/sdb2 ook
[07:41] <_cerberus_> no prob
[07:41] <TC_> bjorn no i didnt
[07:41] <bjorn_> though, you probably want /mnt/sdb1
[07:41] <TC_> lol
[07:41] <TC_> o ok
[07:42] <TC_> so type same command u told me except with sdb1?
[07:42] <TC_> bjorn_  do this???   mkdir /mnt/sdb1 ; mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 ; chroot /mnt/sdb1
[07:43] <bjorn_> one at a time though
[07:43] <bjorn_> mkdir /mnt/sdb1
[07:43] <TC_> ohhh
[07:43] <bjorn_> and then check that that dir got created
[07:43] <TC_> i was doing them all"once
[07:43] <TC_> i done mkdir /mnt/sdb1 and it jus went down to next line
[07:43] <bjorn_> yea, which wouldn't matter, if they were working :D
[07:44] <TC_> so im taking that worked
[07:44] <bjorn_> yea, so you should now have a /mnt/sdb1 directory
[07:44] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mkdir /mnt/sdb1
[07:44] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[07:44] <TC_> thats what i got
[07:44] <TC_> k
[07:45] <bjorn_> ok, so the mount command is the one that's choking, and that's causing the chroot to fail
[07:45] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/sdb1
[07:45] <TC_> mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:46] <bjorn_> right,  you want
[07:46] <mythril> how can I disable network
[07:46] <bjorn_> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[07:46] <azam> hai
[07:46] <TC_> i think that worked
[07:46] <azam> ff
[07:46] <TC_> it jus skipped down to next line
[07:47] <bjorn_> k, try 'ls /mnt/sdb1' and make sure it looks similar to 'ls /'
[07:47] <azam> i am from INA you
[07:47] <TC_> ok it brought up alot of color commands
[07:47] <bjorn_> if it does, I think its safe to assume that you've found your root ubuntu partition :D
[07:47] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# ls /mnt/sdb1
[07:47] <TC_> bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  var
[07:47] <TC_> boot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[07:48] <TC_> sorry for spam but i need this fixed
[07:48] <bjorn_> yea, looks good
[07:48] <TC_> k
[07:48] <tamacracker> Hm... I'm trying to find the installtion instructions for Mplayer 1.0pre8 and I'm not havin any luck on the site...
[07:48] <wikijeff> Is there a decent way to make it so that when I minimize/expand windows the window list doesn't keep resizing?
[07:48] <tamacracker> I already downloaded it.. and I can't find a readme document with instruction
[07:48] <TC_> tamacracker do a search for mplayer rpm file
[07:49] <bjorn_> ok chroot /mnt/sdb1
[07:49] <TC_> get the i386 version
[07:49] <TC_> k bjorn
[07:49] <bjorn_> and you should be in
[07:49] <bjorn_> then you'll have to read the man page about grub-install
[07:49] <TC_> im now root@ubuntu
[07:49] <bjorn_> (I think that's what you want, don't remmember really)
[07:49] <TC_> ok bjorn sweet
[07:49] <TC_> brb
[07:50] <tamacracker> search on google for mplayer rpm file?... or search in the folder?
[07:50] <_cerberus_> tamacracker, I'm assuming you've unzipped everything, cd into the directory and there should be a file called INSTALL
[07:50] <TC_> on google
[07:50] <bjorn_> I gotta take off,  good luck w/ re-installing grub
[07:50] <TC_> goto rpm search
[07:50] <TC_> ty bjorn for help
[07:50] <bjorn_> welcome
[07:50] <TC_> ttyl
[07:50] <bjorn_> adios
[07:50] <TC_> peace
[07:50] <_cerberus_> god no, don't go installing rpm's
[07:51] <tamacracker> uhm... I opened the zip file, extract it onto the desktop, I opened the MPlayer folder, and I cannot find anything to do with install, just a few fiels and alot of folders
[07:51] <tamacracker> ok i wont install rpms
[07:51] <usli> cant find it
[07:51] <TC_> rpms work fine for me with alien
[07:52] <TC_> mplayer works great
[07:52] <usli> is there an application to open visio in ubuntu?
[07:52] <tamacracker> i have ubruntu
[07:52] <tamacracker> ubuntu*
[07:52] <usli> not creating a diagram, but opening a visio file in ubuntu?
[07:52] <_cerberus_> ok sorry, in the mplayer directory there is a folder called DOCS
[07:52] <tamacracker> docs?
[07:53] <tamacracker> ok
[07:53] <_cerberus_> go there then html -> en ->install.html
[07:54] <RobNyc_C> anyone here has a Creative Zen Vision M ?
[07:54] <TC_> anyone here know anything about installing grub in chroot?
[07:54] <tamacracker> saaaweeeet... ok ill follow the installation instructions and ill come back if i have any problems that I cannot fix :)
[07:55] <tamacracker> by the way, thank you for takin your time to help me :)
[07:55] <_cerberus_> that's what we're here for
[07:56] <TC_> _cerberus_: can u help pls
[07:56] <usli> :(
[07:56] <_cerberus_> just remember, you probably want to use the --enable-gui option when you run ./configure
[07:56] <_cerberus_> I'll be back in 10, I'll give you a hand then if no one else can
[07:56] <usli> i need to open a visio file in ubuntu
[07:56] <TC_> kk
[07:56] <TC_> anyone able to help me install grub in chroot?
[07:56] <Caplain> what do i need to play vice city?
[07:56] <usli> anyone can help me with that?
[07:57] <TC_> anyone know what slot grub should be on..the swap partition?
[07:57] <TC_> or the mbr?
[07:57] <sp0rk_> pornview is such a great program
[07:58] <TC_> cracked user name and password to twistys is better
[07:58] <TC_> ;)
[07:58] <sp0rk_> twistys?
[07:58] <TC_> twistys.com i think
[07:58] <TC_> ya
[07:58] <sp0rk_> i'm googling, but i have a very very slow stolen wireless connection
[07:58] <Ademan> can one use the xair server with an nvidia card and it just won't be accelerated? or it won't work at all?
[07:59] <boudahxl> GKrellM <-- Could this application bring down the whole system? Everytime it's running for a long period I find my system in a frozen state... Never freeze otherwise, any idea?
[07:59] <TC_> sprok u on dsl?
[07:59] <TC_> spork
[07:59] <sp0rk_> i'm not sure what i'm on
[07:59] <TC_> are u on dial up
[07:59] <TC_> as in 56k
[07:59] <tamacracker> thanks _cerberus :)
[08:00] <TC_> spork want faster internet?
[08:00] <sp0rk_> well, i know i'm on an unsecured wireless connection, connecting to an apple airport wap...but the distance from the wap is what kills me
[08:00] <TC_> u running firefox?
[08:00] <sp0rk_> i would like a faster connection, yes, and i am running firefox
[08:00] <TC_> ok goto file new tab
[08:00] <TC_> and in the webaddress type about:config
[08:01] <sp0rk_> k
[08:01] <TC_> now go down to network.dns.disableIPv6
[08:01] <TC_> u see it
[08:01] <TC_> it will prolloy be disabled on the right hand side?
[08:02] <TC_> i mean it will say false
[08:02] <sp0rk_> yeah i changed it
[08:02] <TC_> o u done tha already?
[08:02] <sp0rk_> nah i just did that now
[08:02] <sp0rk_> BUT
[08:02] <sp0rk_> that's not my problem
[08:02] <TC_> but
[08:02] <TC_> make sure its on true
[08:02] <TC_> and open a new firefox
[08:02] <thomas__> Hi, my root partition is mounted as read-only. How do I fix this?
[08:02] <tamacracker> Does anyone know how to put codecs into the /usr/local/lib/codecs
[08:02] <TC_> it made my speed 6 times faster easily
[08:02] <sp0rk_> the problem is the continuity of the wireless connection
[08:02] <tamacracker> I need to do this in order for them to work with mplayer
[08:02] <TC_> yeah but that might help u some
[08:03] <sp0rk_> thanks man
[08:03] <TC_> welcome
[08:03] <TC_> try it and see if it makes any difference
[08:03] <TC_> u need to open a new firefox doh
[08:03] <TC_> close other ones down
[08:03] <sp0rk_> yeah i know TC_
[08:04] <mtholdenss> is it possible to have a session seperate for xgl gnome and xgl kde?
[08:04] <thomas__> Hi, my root partition is mounted as read-only. How do I fix this?
[08:04] <mtholdenss> thomas is your partition ntfs?
[08:04] <TC_> anyone in here know what partition grub should be installed on?
[08:04] <thomas__> Yno.
[08:05] <mtholdenss> Yno?
[08:05] <thomas__> It's just Linux.
[08:05] <thomas__> No*
[08:05] <mtholdenss> ok well i dont know then...
[08:05] <mtholdenss> if it was ntfs and it was a win xp partition that would make sense y u cant write to it
[08:05] <sp0rk> TC_: what do you mean...do you mean the actual program grub itself, or the boot image?
[08:05] <sp0rk> because the boot image doesn't actually install on a partition, it installs on the MBR of whatever disk you point it to
[08:06] <thomas__> I don't know. During boot, it had to do a hard drive check, and mounted is as read only for fcsk.
[08:06] <mtholdenss> any benifits of having kde and gnome?
[08:06] <sp0rk> mtholdenss: choice
[08:06] <TC_> spork basically i had windows on my C drive and ubuntu on D but windows messed up so i reinstalled it and now grub is gone..so i was geting help in here by a few ppl who told me when im in my live cd jus to go into my chroot of the installed ubuntu and reinstall grub to it
[08:06] <sp0rk> you can decide which works better for you
[08:07] <TC_> so i would imagine the MBR is my c drive yes?
[08:07] <mtholdenss> sp0rk but u can have both and run stuff from diff sessions?
[08:07] <mtholdenss> do some apps run better on gnome than kde vise versa?
[08:07] <TC_> gnome is alot better for compiz
[08:07] <TC_> and gnome is alot better for programming
[08:07] <thomas__> I can't do apt-get or anything since it's read only. Can't I remount it or something?
[08:08] <sp0rk> mtholdenss: hang on... let me deal with TC_ then i'll answer your question
[08:08] <mtholdenss> TC but compiz can still run on kde?
[08:08] <TC_> yes but not all the plugins work n stuff
[08:08] <TC_> gnome is better anyways
[08:08] <TC_> :P
[08:08] <sp0rk> TC_: you don't actually have to chroot, grub will be able to acess the harddrives even without your ubutnu drive mounted...it has low level access
[08:08] <TC_> kde is windowish lookin
[08:09] <dibblego> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251944 is there a way to use a NIC if the driver has a bug? are bugs fixed often enough to wait?
[08:09] <TC_> spork i need to reinstall grub doh
[08:09] <sp0rk> TC_: all you need to do is tell grub which partition has your grub information (should be hd1,0) and what disk is you boot disk (should be hd0), and you're good
[08:09] <TC_> i think when i installed windows it deleted it
[08:09] <sp0rk> TC_: yeah, it did
[08:09] <mtholdenss> Tc... and gnome is mac looking...
[08:09] <TC_> nothing wrong with mac :)
[08:09] <amidala> hi
[08:09] <sp0rk> !grub
[08:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:10] <sp0rk> read that link, TC_, and you'll be golden
[08:10] <TC_> k thanx
[08:10] <sp0rk> np
[08:10] <hume> hi...how do I do a startx that starts a new X-server when I alreday have one running?
[08:10] <dannyr> hi I have spamassassin - postfix and have installed clamav - clamav doesnt seem to check incoming emails - how do I install anomy-sanitizer using apt-get?
[08:10] <sp0rk> now mtholdenss, you don't need to run KDE to be able to run programs that use kde libs
[08:10] <mtholdenss> but its better if u run kde? right?
[08:10] <sp0rk> nope
[08:11] <tamacracker>  _cerberus I don't know how to put the codecs into the proper location...
[08:11] <sp0rk> mtholdenss: the only thing that would be better would be a common look and feel
[08:11] <usli> dudee
[08:11] <usli> help................
[08:11] <usli> how to open visio in ubuntu?
[08:11] <TC_> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/hda
[08:11] <TC_> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device
[08:11] <mtholdenss> i think gnome is more macish look and feel and kde is windows look
[08:11] <Cosmo-san>  Where do I get a C compiler?
[08:12] <sp0rk> mtholdenss: you'll have some initial lag when you first start up the kde app as all the libraries and sussystems load, but once they're loaded you'll cook along without noticing any difference
[08:12] <sp0rk> mtholdenss: aside from a visual difference
[08:12] <usli> !visio
[08:12] <dibblego> Cosmo-san, apt-get install build-essential
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <sp0rk> mtholdenss: you can make gnome look anyway you want it...from a UI point of view, gnome actually works just like windows does
[08:13] <mtholdenss> sp0rk true
[08:13] <sp0rk> mtholdenss: just the initial default layout resembles mac more than it does windows...but in everyday operation, it works like a windows UI works
[08:13] <usli> anyone?
[08:13] <usli> know that such of application?
[08:13] <sp0rk> usli: can't help you man, sorry
[08:13] <TC_> susli no1 knows
[08:13] <usli> oh....
[08:13] <usli> :(
[08:13] <usli> thanks
[08:13] <sp0rk> TC_: i'll help you in pm
[08:13] <TC_> !enter
[08:13] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:13] <TC_> spork ok
[08:13] <TC_> i will send u a SS of my ubuntu u will understand why i dont wanna format
[08:14] <thomas__> *sigh* I tried remount, but it's still read only.
[08:15] <CiRuS> usli, as in the MS Visio?
[08:15] <usli> yap...
[08:15] <TC_> use wine
[08:15] <usli> my office using a visio for creating application
[08:15] <usli> i try using wine
[08:15] <usli> it cant open visio
[08:15] <CiRuS> yep that about sums it up .. wine
[08:15] <TC_> lol
[08:15] <usli> :(
[08:15] <CiRuS> well you could try crossover office
[08:16] <sp0rk> TC_: you get my pm?
[08:16] <usli> but that's a non-free
[08:16] <TC_> yes
[08:16] <usli> hehe
[08:16] <TC_> u not get mine?
[08:16] <CiRuS> yep $$
[08:16] <sp0rk> TC_: nope
[08:16] <TC_> wierd
[08:16] <sp0rk> i'll just tell you in the room.
[08:16] <tamacracker> can anyone help me properly install mplayer?
[08:16] <TC_> k
[08:16] <TC_> i have 2 hard drives
[08:17] <TC_> windows on C ubuntu on D
[08:17] <TC_> i type root@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/hda
[08:17] <TC_> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device
[08:17] <TC_> and that happens
[08:17] <sp0rk> so, the grub_install is really a lack kludge that guesses that things and never really works...don't use it.  open up a terminal and just type "grub"
[08:17] <TC_> k
[08:17] <TC_> ok got wierd stuff up
[08:17] <sp0rk> like what?
[08:18] <TC_>  GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[08:18] <TC_>  Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For
[08:18] <TC_>          the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command
[08:18] <TC_>          completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
[08:18] <TC_>          completions of a device/filename. ] 
[08:18] <sp0rk> that's exactly what you want to see
[08:18] <TC_> ok
[08:18] <TC_> i got grub>then flash box
[08:18] <sp0rk> now, if ubuntu is installed on your second drive, in the default way, you'll want to type root (hd1,0)
[08:19] <TC_> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[08:19] <TC_> i got sata drives
[08:19] <TC_> my bad
[08:19] <sp0rk> that shouldn't matter.
[08:19] <TC_> sd1?
[08:19] <_Sync_> sd1,0
[08:19] <TC_> k
[08:19] <TC_> Error 23: Error while parsing number
[08:19] <sp0rk> TC_: grub makes not differentiation between sata and ata
[08:19] <_Sync_> better than not exists =)
[08:20] <TC_> lol
[08:20] <_Sync_> :P
[08:20] <TC_> it aint working doh
[08:20] <TC_> :(
[08:20] <sp0rk> yeah, which is weird
[08:20] <sp0rk> it's not working for me...but i just did this today using helix
[08:20] <sp0rk> and it worked..
[08:20] <tamacracker> can anyone help me properly install mplayer?
[08:20] <shahab> Hi, I have a problem with mounting with my windows partitions !
[08:20] <sp0rk> helix is another livecd that's used for data recovery
[08:20] <TC_> but u forget man im not in my installed ubuntu
[08:20] <TC_> im jus on the live cd
[08:20] <TC_> therefore i need to go into root and install it?
[08:21] <sp0rk> TC_: no
[08:21] <TC_> o
[08:21] <helter> can somebody help me? I'm trying to work out how to turn off cursor blinking in the eclipse IDE editor. I really like eclipse, but I cant stand blinking cursors.
[08:21] <shahab> Hi, I have a problem with mounting with my windows partitions ! can anyone help me ?
[08:21] <Madpilot> TC_, on the liveCD, sudo works without a password
[08:21] <TC_> will it install grub to my installed ubuntu from live cd?
[08:22] <TC_> i mean im runing my pc on the live cd
[08:22] <sp0rk> TC_: yes.
[08:22] <_Sync_> jep
[08:22] <TC_> o ok
[08:22] <TC_> lol im such a noob
[08:22] <tamacracker> For anyone that needs to mount their NTFS HDD so that they can use it normally, go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=Mounting+NTFS
[08:22] <cvt> if k3b says it's writing but my system monitor detects no activity for an hour is it safe to say it's not writing?
[08:22] <sp0rk> TC_: grub has access to your hardware at a low-level, so mounting, chroot, etc does not matter...if the live CD booted on your hardware, grub has access to that hardware
[08:23] <TC_> o ok sweet
[08:23] <sp0rk> TC_: i need to think about this a little bit though...so give me a minute
[08:23] <sp0rk> !grub
[08:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:23] <TC_> ok
[08:23] <shahab> thanks tmacracker
[08:23] <TC_> well i went into add remove and grub is installed?
[08:23] <sp0rk> yeah, it is
[08:23] <tamacracker> Not a problem bor, just follow the tutorial and whatever questions you have or problems, just post it and the guy will be quick to help
[08:23] <sp0rk> if it wasn't installed you woudln't be able to type "grub" at the command line
[08:24] <TC_> ahh
[08:24] <sp0rk> you would get a "command not found"
[08:24] <TC_> i see
[08:24] <TC_> maybe if i jus update grub
[08:24] <luckyaba> where would i start reading to setup a proxy on my comp?
[08:24] <luckyaba> specifically for irc
[08:25] <_code> porra
[08:25] <sp0rk> TC_: no, your grub version does not matter.
[08:25] <TC_> k
[08:26] <TC_> is there anyway grub is not installed on my pc now its jus showing up as installed because it runs with the live cd?
[08:26] <sp0rk> no...
[08:26] <TC_> k
[08:27] <sp0rk> i found the problem
[08:27] <sp0rk> you've got to run grub as root
[08:27] <TC_> k
[08:27] <TC_> o ok
[08:27] <sp0rk> so type "sudo grub"
[08:27] <TC_> k im in grub as root
[08:27] <tamacracker> can anyone help me properly install mplayer?
[08:27] <dannyr> Can anyone please tell me if anomy sanitiser runs on ubuntu
[08:27] <sp0rk> now type root (hd1,0)
[08:27] <TC_> cracker use rpm file like i told u it will take 1 minute to install
[08:27] <TC_> k spork
[08:28] <sp0rk> tell me what happened
[08:28] <TC_>  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[08:28] <sp0rk> good
[08:28] <TC_> phew
[08:28] <TC_> lol
[08:28] <sp0rk> now type setup (hd0)
[08:28] <TC_> k
[08:28] <TC_> k
[08:28] <TC_> that it?
[08:28] <_Sync_> tamacracker just install it with apt
[08:28] <dannyr> tamacracker: I think you can add universal etc to sources list then run apt-get update/install for mplayer
[08:28] <sp0rk> you should see some checks, then something that says " Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd2,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded"
[08:29] <Madpilot> !mplayer
[08:29] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile  Also see !codecs
[08:29] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:29] <sp0rk> except, (hd1,0)
[08:29] <Madpilot> tamacracker, mplayer is in Multiverse...
[08:29] <TC_>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd1,0)/boot/grub/stage
[08:29] <TC_> 2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded
[08:29] <sp0rk> good
[08:29] <sp0rk> now type quit
[08:29] <sp0rk> and reboot
[08:29] <TC_> k
[08:29] <sp0rk> and you shoudl be golden
[08:29] <TC_> alright ima try it out brb
[08:29] <sp0rk> k
[08:33] <CooL--PenguiN> yup that worked..thanks alot mate
[08:33] <tamacracker> how exactly would I install it with apt?...
[08:34] <_Sync_> apt-get install mplayer
[08:34] <_Sync_> as root
[08:34] <asdfcvbn> hello all
[08:34] <tamacracker> so open up terminal and type apt-get install mplayer
[08:34] <_Sync_> yes
[08:34] <tamacracker> ok hold on
[08:35] <asdfcvbn> if anyone has a second, i have a question
[08:35] <tamacracker> aack im gettin an error
[08:35] <CooL--PenguiN> spork check these pics out :P http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22822 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22820 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22819 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22821
[08:35] <CiRuS> tamacracker, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:35] <tamacracker> tamacracker@tamacracker:~$ apt-get install mplayer
[08:35] <tamacracker> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:35] <tamacracker> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:35] <tamacracker> tamacracker@tamacracker:~$
[08:35] <_Sync_> as root^^
[08:35] <_Sync_> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:35] <asdfcvbn> i have tried the forums
[08:35] <sp0rk> asdfcvbn: if you have a question, you should ask it =)
[08:35] <lucasvo> asdfcvbn: shoor
[08:35] <tamacracker> i see im assuming that sudo = root directory?
[08:35] <lucasvo> asdfcvbn: shoot
[08:36] <sp0rk> tamacracker: sudo = "do as root"
[08:36] <cvt> how do i get links in xchat  to open in a new tab in konqueror like firefox does?
[08:36] <asdfcvbn> I'm trying to dual boot windows and ubuntu... installing on laptop... did windows install
[08:36] <tamacracker> woohoo thanks for the knowledge, ok I installed it, I believe... this is what i got:
[08:36] <tamacracker> tamacracker@tamacracker:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:36] <tamacracker> Password:
[08:36] <tamacracker> Reading package lists... Done
[08:36] <tamacracker> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:36] <tamacracker> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:36] <tamacracker> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:36] <tamacracker> is only available from another source
[08:36] <tamacracker> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[08:36] <CooL--PenguiN> sprok u got compiz n stuff on your pc?
[08:36] <tamacracker> tamacracker@tamacracker:~$
[08:36] <CooL--PenguiN> sp0rk*
[08:36] <lucasvo> !paste tamacracker
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste tamacracker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <lucasvo> !paste > tamacracker
[08:37] <sp0rk> CooL--PenguiN: no, i think it's a waste of time.  I've installed it before, but a long time ago and i know things have changed since then
[08:37] <asdfcvbn> after ubuntu install, it starts loading and then drops me to a shell
[08:37] <lucasvo> tamacracker: you need to enable the right repositories
[08:37] <sudome> i recently installed kubuntu-desktop and now have the blue kubuntu bootsplash - how can i get back the brown ubuntu one?
[08:37] <sp0rk> !mplayer
[08:37] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile  Also see !codecs
[08:37] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:37] <CooL--PenguiN> o this is TC sp0rk btw
[08:37] <CooL--PenguiN> :)
[08:37] <sp0rk> tamacracker: read that link
[08:37] <CooL--PenguiN> i forgot i was on different name
[08:38] <asdfcvbn> it gives me "ALERT! /dev/sda3/ does not exist. Dropping to shell!"
[08:38] <tamacracker> ok gonna do some reading brb
[08:38] <sp0rk> CooL--PenguiN: ah ok.  Yeah compiz is impressive for about 10 minutes until you relize it doesn't really make you anymore productive...until it's actually fully supported in X and in window managers like metacity and KDE, it's pretty much useless
[08:38] <asdfcvbn> and its odd because i only have one drive on this laptop, and its pata
[08:39] <CooL--PenguiN> yeah but i have to say i got compiz working perfect now
[08:39] <CooL--PenguiN> but it is unstable to setup
[08:39] <sp0rk> CooL--PenguiN: i alwasy found it pretty stable, but useless
[08:39] <CooL--PenguiN> i love eye candy doh
[08:39] <CooL--PenguiN> main reason i used linux
[08:39] <CooL--PenguiN> why i dropped windows
[08:39] <CooL--PenguiN> jus got dull
[08:39] <CooL--PenguiN> and now i love linux
[08:39] <sp0rk> all i want is a transparent terminal and drop shadows, like OS X has
[08:39] <cvt> linux does look good
[08:40] <CooL--PenguiN> for everthing
[08:40] <asdfcvbn> anyone?
[08:40] <CooL--PenguiN> check my screen shotsa out
[08:40] <CooL--PenguiN> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22822 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22820 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22819 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i22821
[08:40] <cvt> my modified black theme kicks ass
[08:40] <CooL--PenguiN> i love the black theme
[08:40] <mtholdenss> can a bios of a motherboard have power saving function?
[08:40] <CooL--PenguiN> cvt check mine out there
[08:40] <cvt> k
[08:40] <CooL--PenguiN> u got any SS cvt
[08:40] <cvt> yes
[08:41] <cvt> my system is slow so it'll take a while to upload them
[08:41] <CooL--PenguiN> ahh ok
[08:41] <sudome> CooL--PenguiN, do you actually *work* with that desktop? ;-)
[08:41] <CooL--PenguiN> yup all the time
[08:41] <CooL--PenguiN> i have compiz on 24/7
[08:42] <asdfcvbn> so does anyone have any suggestions?
[08:42] <CooL--PenguiN> dont always use rain ofcourse
[08:42] <CooL--PenguiN> i love the 4 desktops on the cube i use all 4 of them
[08:42] <_Sync_> i like that desktop
[08:42] <sudome> naa, would be far too distracting for me
[08:43] <CooL--PenguiN> took me ages to get it like that as in icons editing kiba dock
[08:43] <wira1_8> agree
[08:43] <asdfcvbn> hey... do you guys do any... you know.... ""supporting""?
[08:43] <asdfcvbn> just wondering
[08:43] <CooL--PenguiN> i dont work on this computer its jus for lesure
[08:44] <CooL--PenguiN> i have always been big into skinning doh
[08:44] <CooL--PenguiN> i never used windows default skin
[08:44] <CooL--PenguiN> i loved litestep
[08:44] <sp0rk> psh, you guys need to drop this fancy junk and use ion
[08:44] <sudome> ah, that's what i wanted to know
[08:44] <asdfcvbn> penguin?
[08:45] <CooL--PenguiN> if you think my desktop is distracting o boy if u only seen what happens when u clock one of the icons on kiba dock it flys up and when it comes down i have gravity set set very high on it so it smashs all the other icons all over the shop hahahah
[08:45] <cvt> CooL--PenguiN, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i23108
[08:45] <cvt> that's one i already had taken
[08:45] <CooL--PenguiN> asdfcvbn: im noob to linux mate so no i dont help really
[08:45] <tamacracker> This webpage is not helping me on installing Mplayer :(
[08:45] <tamacracker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[08:45] <cmerk> !grub
[08:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:45] <CooL--PenguiN> cvt checking
[08:46] <CooL--PenguiN> nice
[08:46] <CooL--PenguiN> no compiz themes doh..bold boy
[08:46] <cvt> it took me a long time to find a balance between black backgrounds and black or dark test
[08:46] <cvt> text
[08:47] <cvt> CooL--PenguiN,  i'll look into it
[08:47] <CooL--PenguiN> u should get the metacity theme i have on them SS its very nice got a nice glow around it
[08:47] <CooL--PenguiN> then again might be distrating
[08:47] <jennyli> hello?
[08:48] <CooL--PenguiN> sup
[08:48] <jennyli> hi
[08:48] <CooL--PenguiN> howdy
[08:48] <CooL--PenguiN> :P
[08:48] <jennyli> is this for linux support?
[08:48] <CooL--PenguiN> ubuntu mainly
[08:48] <jennyli> yeah i just got that
[08:48] <gypsymauro> hello, I'm compiling a vanilla kernel for ubuntu (with vserver patch) the kernel works I can boot but ussplash doesn't starts, I got a black screen until gdm starts, there is doc on how get a vanilla kernel work with this?
[08:49] <CooL--PenguiN> well if its a really noob question i might be able to help
[08:49] <jennyli> my friend gave me this dvd of it and said it was better than windows
[08:49] <CooL--PenguiN> otherwise im jus here to look good
[08:49] <sp0rk> jennyli: what do you usually do with computers?
[08:49] <frying_fish> jennyli: ok, whats the problem?
[08:49] <CooL--PenguiN> gnoc? lol
[08:49] <CooL--PenguiN> j/k
[08:49] <jennyli> i just go online
[08:49] <sp0rk> jennyli: if you play games, ubuntu is NOT better than windows.
[08:49] <jennyli> no not really
[08:50] <jennyli> i just use office and stuff
[08:50] <sp0rk> jennyli: then it is better than windows. haha.
[08:50] <CooL--PenguiN> for jus internet use linux is much better
[08:50] <jennyli> really?
[08:50] <CooL--PenguiN> yeah no viruses etc
[08:50] <CooL--PenguiN> windows always messes up once u go to a crack site etc
[08:50] <tamacracker> Can anyone help me install Mplayer, I downloaded Mplayer, and extracted it onto my desktop. now I need to place my Win32 codecs into the /usr/local/lib/codecs directory, how do I do this?
[08:50] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: technically thats incorrect, but the threat of viruses is lower (much much)
[08:50] <jennyli> well... i called my friend and he didnt know how to get it to work
[08:50] <feet> hello. trying to watch flash videos. have it all set up, with sound going thru aoss. but i notice the sound starts lagging after a while. is there a way to work around this? thanks
[08:51] <frying_fish> tamacracker: why not just install mplayer from the apt repository, it is in there.
[08:51] <abo> tamacracker, not the way to do it, use synaptic
[08:51] <CooL--PenguiN> well yeah i know there is a chance but how many viruses are out on linux?
[08:51] <sp0rk> tamacracker: type !mplayer and !codecs and read those two links!!!
[08:51] <sp0rk> tamacracker: installing mplayer from source is NOT easy and you WILL screw it up.
[08:51] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: not many out in the wild,
[08:51] <frying_fish> so jennyli whats the problem?
[08:51] <elkbuntu> CooL--PenguiN, afaik countable on one hand
[08:51] <jennyli> ok ok give me a second
[08:51] <CooL--PenguiN> lol
[08:51] <frying_fish> sp0rk: if they have a lack of experience yes.
[08:52] <jennyli> so after i put in the dvd
[08:52] <sp0rk> frying_fish: if he doesn't know what to do with a source tarball, what do you think his experience level is?
[08:52] <jennyli> and i get this nice desktop
[08:52] <sp0rk> =)
[08:52] <frying_fish> sp0rk: indeed.
[08:52] <CooL--PenguiN> tamcracker mplayer is in the add remove? why u install from source
[08:52] <frying_fish> jennyli: ok, so you can get to the desktop, whats the problem from there?
[08:52] <tamacracker> oh i see
[08:52] <jennyli> well i think its the dvd desktop
[08:52] <tamacracker> yeah i just installed it :)
[08:52] <CooL--PenguiN> jenny aint installed it yet i dont think
[08:53] <tamacracker> should I be able to play mp3 now?
[08:53] <jennyli> because when i take out the dvd it doesnt boot
[08:53] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: no, she's running from livecd.
[08:53] <jennyli> well i went through the install program
[08:53] <CooL--PenguiN> yeah
[08:53] <frying_fish> jennyli: you haven't
[08:53] <CooL--PenguiN> she wants to install it so
[08:53] <frying_fish> does it boot to windows?
[08:53] <sp0rk> jennyli: you booted the live CD, so you've got basically a working ubuntu system running *off the CD*, but not installed on your harddrive
[08:53] <frying_fish> tamacracker: there are many other ways to play mp3.
[08:53] <cmerk> gypsymauro: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Kernel_Compilation_Dapper
[08:53] <jennyli> when i take out the dvd it shows a screen with a ubuntu logo on it
[08:53] <feet> tamacracker:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:53] <CooL--PenguiN> amarok is best for music i think
[08:53] <jennyli> then it gives me some weird error
[08:53] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: nah, I use audacious, basically xmms with gtk2 :D
[08:54] <feet> that link is the best bet for you tamacracker
[08:54] <sp0rk> jennyli: what's the error *exactly*
[08:54] <frying_fish> jennyli: can you write out the error?
[08:54] <jennyli> and then goes to a black background and i can type stuff
[08:54] <jennyli> yeah one second
[08:54] <CooL--PenguiN> frying_fish: never heard of it..but will give it a try
[08:54] <jennyli> i wrote it down
[08:54] <frying_fish> ahh right, so its dropped to a terminal.
[08:54] <CooL--PenguiN> what is gtk2?
[08:54] <CooL--PenguiN> i seen it on gnome-desktops.org
[08:54] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page
[08:54] <CooL--PenguiN> kk
[08:54] <sp0rk> CooL--PenguiN: gtk2 is the software that renders just about everything in gnome
[08:54] <jennyli> "ALERT! /dev/sda3/ does not exist. Dropping to shell!"
[08:54] <frying_fish> gtk2 is the latest gtk engine, what current gnome works on.
[08:54] <CooL--PenguiN> ohh ok
[08:55] <CooL--PenguiN> i wanna update to latest gnome but im afraid it will mess my compiz up
[08:55] <dsatch> CooL--PenguiN: gtk2 is what draws the buttons and the windows and all the other GUI controls in GNOME
[08:55] <frying_fish> jennyli: ok, so its trying to mount a partition that doesn't exist, that should be simple enough to fix.
[08:55] <CooL--PenguiN> and i dont think its a big plus updateing anyways
[08:55] <CooL--PenguiN> i will jus wait for edgy
[08:55] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: just update to edgy now :p
[08:55] <CooL--PenguiN> aint it in beta?
[08:55] <cvt> the problem with my black theme modification is that i can't see my curser :(
[08:55] <CooL--PenguiN> i dont do betas lol
[08:55] <sp0rk> jennyli: i gotta say, your friend's kinda lame for not helping you install ubuntu haha, let me get you a link on how to install it
[08:55] <jennyli> really?! yeah my friend was trying to walk me through it but he got all frustrated and left
[08:56] <sp0rk> jennyli: psh, what a newb.
[08:56] <frying_fish> jennyli: yeah, he should have helped properly.
[08:56] <ozzloy> what's a good webcam that will work automagically with ubuntu?
[08:56] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: yes, but with a release in just over 1 month its pretty good
[08:56] <jennyli> he was going to somehow make it so my windows worked too though
[08:56] <CooL--PenguiN> are u on edgy frying_fish
[08:56] <frying_fish> jennyli: yeah that should be simple enough.
[08:56] <sp0rk> jennyli: you seem pretty intelligent sofar, so you should be able to get it installed on your own if you read what i'm about to get you
[08:57] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: I am now, I upgraded on saturday.
[08:57] <CooL--PenguiN> any better?
[08:57] <jennyli> oh thank you
[08:57] <CooL--PenguiN> or much the same?
[08:57] <frying_fish> just got a couple of broken packages currently, but some things are much nicer
[08:57] <sp0rk> jennyli: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[08:57] <frying_fish> such as vlc, its using 0.8.6svn, and that has a fix in wxwidgets now
[08:57] <sp0rk> !dualboot
[08:57] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:57] <tamacracker> hm... it's not playing MP3s...
[08:57] <frying_fish> but, they seem to have changed some core stuff and some of the lirc doesn't work
[08:57] <CooL--PenguiN> god its 8am and i still aint been to bed..what a sado
[08:57] <sp0rk> jennyli: for getting windows working along side ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:57] <frying_fish> tamacracker: sudo apt-get install xmms  if you just want mp3 to start with
[08:58] <frying_fish> or search in synaptic for mp3
[08:58] <jennyli> ok let me look it over
[08:58] <jennyli> thanks again
[08:58] <sp0rk> !install
[08:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:58] <CooL--PenguiN> if you found your way into this room jenni then installing ubuntu is easier
[08:58] <CooL--PenguiN> lol
[08:58] <sp0rk> those links ^^ should help you install
[08:59] <eXistenZ> to be able to open a folder, what mode it must have?
[08:59] <frying_fish> I wonder if the latest kernels have fixed the hpt366 bug, so that I can boot my system with my highpoint rocket card plugged in and have it not hang, trying to see them as IDE, when infact they are sata and then just dying.
[08:59] <CooL--PenguiN> is sata any good?
[08:59] <frying_fish> jennyli: do you have a second computer to hand?
[08:59] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: yes, much better than IDE
[08:59] <CooL--PenguiN> o ok
[09:00] <sp0rk> CooL--PenguiN: yeah, you get 50% more bandwidth with sata over ata in an ideal situation
[09:00] <jennyli> a second computer? yeah i guess i could stea... err... borrow my sisters
[09:00] <CooL--PenguiN> hmm...funny used windows for 15 years never once knew what sata was..goes to show how little u learn on windows
[09:00] <frying_fish> problem i've got, with any kernel later than 2.6.12 I can't compile the module from the company, as it just fails to compile, but I can use 2.6.12 for it, so if the new ones with the open source driver don't work yet I can always compile that (this is only for in my little server box not my desktop)
[09:01] <frying_fish> jennyli: I meant mostly so that whilst trying to install if things go wrong you can still have all the guides up on another machine.
[09:01] <eXistenZ> to be able to open a folder, what mode it must have?
[09:01] <tamacracker> sudo apt-get install xmms didn't do anythin for my mplayer to play mp3s
[09:01] <jennyli> ahhh that would be clever wouldnt it
[09:01] <tamacracker> it reads player mplayer is not ready
[09:01] <jennyli> i'll go get it
[09:01] <CooL--PenguiN> i gotta go my g/f is callin me :( thanks for the help ppl i be back on later..bye
[09:01] <sp0rk> CooL--PenguiN: if you want to see what a *real* unix desktop looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i23109
[09:01] <sp0rk> that's my desktop
[09:01] <tamacracker> all it does is go through every track and the screen of the player blinks
[09:01] <frying_fish> CooL--PenguiN: also, you can't install windows onto a lot of sata drives, without a floppy disk drive, because it needs drivers from a floppy disk, not from a cd, and I don't have a floppy drive.
[09:01] <Sync> tamacracker do you already have the codecs?
[09:02] <tamacracker> yeah I downloaded the codecs but I didnt install the codecs...
[09:02] <sp0rk> yeah, frying_fish, why the hell didn't they add out-of-the-box support in sp2?
[09:02] <sp0rk> makes no sense to me.
[09:02] <frying_fish> sp0rk: blackbox?
[09:02] <sp0rk> frying_fish: ion3
[09:02] <frying_fish> sp0rk: because ms suck.
[09:02] <Sync> tamacracker install them via apt
[09:03] <frying_fish> anyways, I think I may stick deb on this box next week when it gets some new hardware and needs a resetup, has slackware currently, but wanna try deb on it.
[09:03] <tamacracker> in the apt, search for : win32?
[09:03] <jennyli> so what should i do now? what do i do about this 'unmounted partition'?
[09:03] <Sync> wait a second ill search for you
[09:03] <tamacracker> ok
[09:03] <sp0rk> jennyli: i would suggest just installing it fresh following the instructions on this link..
[09:03] <sp0rk> !install
[09:03] <frying_fish> jennyli: well, if it has installed and is just failing to see the disk then on the terminal (make sure you are root by first typing sudo -s) type in fdisk -l
[09:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:03] <tamacracker> thank you Sync
[09:03] <Sync> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:03] <sp0rk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:03] <frying_fish> actually sp0rk has a point, a fresh install may work better
[09:03] <jumbers> How do I empty a directory WITHOUT deleting the directory itself?
[09:04] <frying_fish> jumbers: cd /path/to/dir && rm -r *
[09:04] <sp0rk> jennyli: plus, installing using those instructions will help you really understand ubuntu better
[09:04] <sp0rk> rather than trying to clean up the mess your friend left you with
[09:04] <jennyli> hmmm
[09:04] <jennyli>  /dev/sda1   *           1        1275    10241406    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:04] <tamacracker> it claims E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[09:04] <jumbers> Gah, I'm scared of rm -r * after losing my entire desktop folder to it
[09:04] <jumbers> Is there no other way?
[09:04] <jennyli>  /dev/sda2            1276        2550    10241437+  83  Linux
[09:05] <sp0rk> jumbers: what are you trying to do?
[09:05] <Sync> you need the repositories
[09:05] <jennyli>  /dev/sda3            2551        2932     3068415   83  Linux
[09:05] <Shadowpillar__> [CPU Temp]  32.0C/89.6F (fan: 3443 RPM)
[09:05] <jumbers> Clear out my .thumbnails/normal directory
[09:05] <Shadowpillar__> win
[09:05] <jumbers> Daily with cron
[09:05] <frying_fish> jennyli: ok, so it sees the partitions you want.
[09:05] <Middlerun> hi, i'm 100% linux noob so i don't know if this is a dumb question but anyway... i'm trying to change the default boot OS, so i checked out the documentation which said firstly to make a backup of /root/grub/menu.1st, and to do that use the sudo command. so i typed in "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup" and it asked for my password... but i can't type it in! what's going on?
[09:05] <tamacracker> ok... what's the address for the resp.
[09:05] <sp0rk> rm -r ~/.thumbnails/normal/*
[09:05] <Sync> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic tamacracker generate a sources.list
[09:06] <jennyli> ok... so if it sees them why does it say they dont exist?
[09:06] <Sync> if its ubuntu
[09:06] <ozzloy> Middlerun: type your password like normal, it won't show up
[09:06] <ozzloy> Middlerun: but it's there
[09:06] <jennyli> i can reinstall it but i just want to figure it ou
[09:06] <frying_fish> jennyli: also, from now on, use pastebin to paste results
[09:06] <frying_fish> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:06] <tamacracker> yeah it's ubuntu
[09:06] <ozzloy> Middlerun: then hit enter when done
[09:06] <frying_fish> that's where you need to put the following stuff: cat /etc/fstab
[09:06] <Middlerun> ah ok thanks
[09:06] <ivanowitch> Hello. Does anyone know how to connect ubuntu wireless to an unprotected network?
[09:06] <ozzloy> Middlerun: np
[09:06] <Sync> than create one =)
[09:06] <frying_fish> ivanowitch: easiest way is to use network-manager
[09:07] <ivanowitch> how? i have tried a lot... and i'm running xfce, so please don't use gnome software..
[09:07] <feet> hello. trying to watch flash videos. have it all set up, with sound going thru aoss. but i notice the sound starts lagging after a while. any ideas? thanks
[09:07] <jennyli> what do you mean, thats where i need to put the stuff, fish?
[09:08] <ozzloy> ivanowitch:
[09:08] <frying_fish> jennyli: the pastebin, the link that came up  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:08] <ozzloy> err...
[09:08] <jennyli> right
[09:08] <jennyli> ahh
[09:08] <jennyli> you want me to put it all in there?
[09:08] <frying_fish> ivanowitch: its not specifically gnome, the netowkr-manager-gnome bit, is just the gtk front end, which xfce uses anyway.
[09:08] <frying_fish> yeah, please.
[09:08] <tamacracker> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic just gave me this error: E: Type 'http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic' is not known on line 41 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:08] <tamacracker> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:08] <sp0rk> jennyli: yeah, that way we can see it without the channel being flooded
[09:08] <Sync> omg not this url
[09:08] <frying_fish> tamacracker: silly, go to that link and then create a sources.list from there.
[09:09] <tamacracker> roflmao
[09:09] <tamacracker> hahaha
[09:09] <Middlerun> now it says "No such file or directory". the grub directory doesn't seem to be in /root
[09:09] <jennyli> ok
[09:09] <tamacracker> my bad
[09:09] <ivanowitch> ok, but how do i do it? The driver finds the network (even though it is configured to use another one), bu nothing else happens...
[09:09] <tamacracker> sorry im a noob
[09:09] <jennyli> its ok cracker
[09:09] <tamacracker> all this script stuff is reminding me of dos
[09:09] <tamacracker> ugh
[09:09] <jennyli> i'm one too
[09:09] <ivanowitch> the problem seems to be, that i can't get a DHCP offer...
[09:09] <frying_fish> Middlerun: its not
[09:09] <sp0rk> tamacracker: it's how we learn...and yeah, it is a lot like DOS, but far more powerful
[09:09] <frying_fish> it is in /boot/grub , not /root
[09:09] <Sync> f*** must go to school
[09:09] <jennyli> ok fish i put it in there
[09:10] <ozzloy> Middlerun: say again, missed it
[09:10] <Middlerun> oops, my bad!
[09:10] <frying_fish> ivanowitch: ok, so you are connected to the ap, and sudo dhclient eth1 (assuming thats the wireless) doesn't do anything?
[09:10] <ozzloy> nah, i was away for a sec
[09:10] <frying_fish> jennyli: whats the link it created
[09:10] <jennyli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23110 ?
[09:11] <frying_fish> jennyli: that should be it
[09:11] <tamacracker> ok...
[09:11] <tamacracker> im on the webpage to create a source
[09:11] <frying_fish> odd, its seeming to have it as a .txt, not just a webpage, how did you create it jennyli ?
[09:11] <tamacracker> so far i selected Dapper, and 2 letter country code which is US
[09:11] <sp0rk> frying_fish: it's her fdisk -l output
[09:12] <frying_fish> sp0rk: oh right,
[09:12] <sp0rk> frying_fish: just dl the txt file, she attached it rather than pasting it
[09:12] <jennyli> i just copied the link location from the 'download' link
[09:12] <jumbers> Ok, rm -r ~/.thumbnails/normal/* doesn't work because there are way too many files
[09:12] <frying_fish> jennyli: I want you to do something similar, but, not fdisk -l, I want cat /etc/fstab
[09:12] <jumbers> And it refuses to do it
[09:12] <Middlerun> ok so now i've typed in "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.1st /boot/grub/menu.1st_backup" but it still says it isn't there
[09:12] <frying_fish> and just paste it into the big box, don't attach it
[09:12] <frying_fish> and then give the link once its created it
[09:12] <tamacracker> do i need to check the boxes: include updates and include security updates?
[09:12] <frying_fish> Middlerun: its l not 1
[09:12] <jennyli>  unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0
[09:12] <jennyli>  tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[09:13] <ivanowitch> frying_fish: No, it does'nt work:(... it made two requests and then started trying to discover...
[09:13] <frying_fish> jennyli: pastebin.
[09:13] <frying_fish> ivanowitch: ok, maybe the AP isn't handing out DHCP
[09:13] <jennyli> ahhh one second
[09:13] <DBO> jumbers, why not just rm -rf ~/.thumbnails/normal if you are trying to delete everything in there anyhow?
[09:13] <Middlerun> ah ok thanks
[09:13] <jumbers> Will gnome recreate the folder automatically?
[09:13] <DBO> jumbers, you can
[09:14] <ozzloy> Middlerun: as you are typing out the command, you can hit the <tab> key
[09:14] <ivanowitch> frying_fish: It ought to be. Anyway, I've had the same problem with my own network, which i KNOW hands out DHCP... :S
[09:14] <frying_fish> sp0rk: also noticed if I took the d out of the link it worked giving me the page, so will see how it comes up again.
[09:14] <tcpip> need help with flashplayer for x86_64??
[09:14] <jennyli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23111
[09:14] <frying_fish> ivanowitch: ahh.
[09:14] <DBO> jumbers, mkdir ~/,thumbnails/normal
[09:14] <Sync> cu
[09:14] <ozzloy> Middlerun: and it will fill out some for you
[09:14] <frying_fish> tcpip: I don't think there is flash for x86_64 yet
[09:14] <jumbers> I know how to create directories. :(
[09:14] <frying_fish> not even in windows
[09:14] <ozzloy> Middlerun: try this:: sudo cp /boot/gr<tab>
[09:15] <frying_fish> jennyli: is that really all it shows when you type cat /etc/fstab
[09:15] <ozzloy> Middlerun: it will fill out to:: sudo cp /boot/grub
[09:15] <frying_fish> as if so jennyli then we have found the problem.
[09:15] <tamacracker> sync or spork?
[09:15] <Middlerun> that's handy
[09:15] <jennyli> really?@
[09:15] <jennyli> !!
[09:15] <ozzloy> Middlerun: you can use it to check your spelling of paths
[09:15] <sriram> Boss, Any one help me to setup the DSL? I mean, my machine the ethernet card is not recognising at all.
[09:15] <tamacracker> what do i do at the source generator page?
[09:15] <tcpip> frying_fish: how do i play then
[09:16] <frying_fish> tcpip: you either set up a 32bit chroot, and get 32bit versions going inside that, or you don't
[09:16] <sriram> Is there any help to configure the networ card stuff?
[09:16] <jennyli> oh fish dont keep me in suspense!!
[09:16] <frying_fish> jennyli: basically, you aren't mounting any drives.
[09:16] <jennyli> oh
[09:16] <sriram> Really tired up to finding out the help resources
[09:16] <frying_fish> I think /dev/sda2 is root by the size of it and /dev/sda3 is swap
[09:17] <jennyli> mmmmm so root is where all the programs are?
[09:17] <jennyli> and swap is what it uses to hold temporary stuff?
[09:17] <CiRuS> jennyli, not really
[09:17] <frying_fish> jennyli: add a line like this: /dev/sda2      /               ext3 defaults       0       1 to /etc/fstab
[09:17] <frying_fish> and then a line that looks like, /dev/sda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[09:17] <CiRuS> swap is where stuff in ram goes when you run out of ram
[09:17] <frying_fish> and reboot.
[09:18] <jennyli> ok
[09:18] <jennyli> how do i add those lines to etc/fstab?
[09:18] <brendonjt> hi ya all
[09:19] <frying_fish> jennyli: as root, type nano /etc/fstab
[09:19] <frying_fish> then add them to the bottom of the list
[09:19] <Middlerun> my keyboard layout is a bit messed up so i can't figure out how to type "l" but otherwise it's going fine now
[09:19] <tamacracker> :\ i have no idea what im supposed to be lookin up on this link: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:19] <frying_fish> although I am thinking it may be easier for you to just follow one of the guides sp0rk gave, as its likely it didn't finish installing properly if it didn't create the fstab for you.
[09:19] <frying_fish> Middlerun: change your keyboard layout to something sensible?
[09:20] <jumbers> Middlerun: It's the lowercase version of L, it's not hard to figure out
[09:20] <tamacracker> flying fish... was that for me?
[09:21] <frying_fish> tamacracker: it's a very simple thing to follow, just read all the way down.
[09:21] <frying_fish> tamacracker: no, my previous statement was to jennyli
[09:21] <tamacracker> alright hold on... gonna read everything
[09:21] <Middlerun> LOL ok i thought it was that other weird vertical line thing that goes above #
[09:21] <jennyli> thank you fish, let me restart and see what happens
[09:21] <Middlerun> i mean backslash
[09:21] <Middlerun> (that one's messed up too)
[09:21] <frying_fish> | do you mean that?
[09:22] <CiRuS> tamacracker, Go to System > Administration > Software Sources
[09:22] <ozzloy> Middlerun: what happens if you just type:: sudo cp /boot/grub/men<tab>
[09:22] <Middlerun> yeah
[09:22] <ozzloy> Middlerun: it will fill out the troublesome character
[09:22] <ozzloy> or should
[09:22] <Middlerun> it's ok i've got it now
[09:22] <ozzloy> kk cool
[09:22] <tamacracker> software properties?
[09:23] <tcpip> frying_fish: does gnash suffices for flashplayer?
[09:23] <frying_fish> tcpip: don't know.
[09:23] <CiRuS> are you running dapper?
[09:24] <tamacracker> i am yes
[09:24] <CiRuS> ok
[09:24] <CiRuS> hmm I'm on edgy now so go go gadget memory
[09:25] <tamacracker> lol
[09:25] <tamacracker> ok i created the source
[09:25] <CiRuS> with source-0-matic?
[09:25] <frying_fish> now replace /etc/apt/sources.list with that
[09:25] <tamacracker> yes
[09:25] <tamacracker> >.>
[09:25] <tamacracker> what's the code
[09:25] <tamacracker> i enter in the terminal
[09:25] <tamacracker> to open the gedit?
[09:26] <brendonjt> ok  guys,  i may be going out on a wim  here what is eadgy  like  what are the advantages over dapper
[09:26] <ozzloy> tamacracker: type gedit
[09:26] <tamacracker> ack... i gotta get a book on this
[09:26] <CiRuS> sudo gedti /etc/apt/sources.lst
[09:26] <brendonjt> is the download iso, a live cd?
[09:26] <ivanowitch> Does anyone have any idea why a laptop would be unable to DHCP-configure on at unprotected wireless network?
[09:26] <mtholdenss> there a way to shut off power saving?
[09:26] <CiRuS> you're gonna wan't to use sudo
[09:26] <ozzloy> tamacracker: sudo gedit <name of file>
[09:27] <sp0rk> ivanowitch: in my experience (which is very little) when you can't get an IP from a wireless network, the signal is too weak
[09:27] <tamacracker> ok sources.ls opened... there's no data in there
[09:27] <ozzloy> tamacracker: the "sudo" means "i am in charge of this computer, you can verify it by asking my pw"
[09:27] <tamacracker> copy the sourcelist that was generated and paste into this gedit?
[09:27] <tamacracker> thanks for that information on sudo ozzloy :)
[09:28] <tamacracker> ok once i paste the code into the sources.ls (/etc/apt) -gedit
[09:28] <ivanowitch> sp0rk: That might be true, but the strength is fine... :S
[09:28] <CiRuS> make sure you have /etc/apt/sources.list -- no typos
[09:29] <ozzloy> tamacracker: np.
[09:29] <tamacracker> all i need to do is just save it?
[09:29] <CiRuS> tamacracker, save it as sources.list
[09:30] <tamacracker> save in folder apt?
[09:30] <ozzloy> tamacracker: make sure you are typing the name correctly.  in the channel you have it as "sources.ls"
[09:30] <k31th> Guys, I have postfix setup with amavis & spamassasin... however my spam gets sent to the user as wel as my spam mailbox ! how can i stop this
[09:30] <CiRuS> yeah /etc/apt
[09:30] <tamacracker> ok :)
[09:30] <CiRuS> before you do that what does it look like
[09:31] <tamacracker> ok hold on
[09:31] <tamacracker> # Automatically generated sources.list
[09:31] <tamacracker> # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:31] <tamacracker> #
[09:31] <tamacracker> # If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
[09:31] <tamacracker> # and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number)
[09:31] <tamacracker> #
[09:31] <tamacracker> # gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[09:31] <tamacracker> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[09:31] <tamacracker> # Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages, GPG key: 33BAC1B3)
[09:31] <tamacracker> deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main
[09:31] <tamacracker> # Cipherfunk multimedia packages (sources, GPG key: 33BAC1B3)
[09:31] <tamacracker> deb-src ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu dapper main
[09:31] <ozzloy> tamacracker: paste that elsewhere
[09:31] <ChaosFan> !pastebin
[09:31] <tamacracker> # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[09:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:31] <Madpilot> tamacracker, pastebin!
[09:31] <tamacracker> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[09:31] <tamacracker> # Bleeding edge wine packages (sources)
[09:31] <tamacracker> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[09:31] <ozzloy> tamacracker: stop pasting here
[09:31] <tamacracker> i dunno what pastebin is :(
[09:31] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[09:31] <ChaosFan> !pastebin
[09:31] <tamacracker> oh thank you
[09:32] <Madpilot> are we botless?
[09:32] <ozzloy> tamacracker: you will get kicked.  pastebin is a website where you can paste stuff like that
[09:32] <tamacracker> i understand, sorry for pasting that
[09:32] <tamacracker> CiRuS....
[09:32] <shahab> hey guys ... i have some problems with this NTFS support of Ubuntu
[09:32] <lavi> anyone knows which package named with linc?
[09:32] <tamacracker> when i first opened the document
[09:32] <tamacracker> it was empty
[09:32] <Madpilot> later all
[09:33] <tamacracker> !pastebin
[09:33] <shahab> It says it should be automaticly supported but it just keeps telling me
[09:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:33] <ozzloy> tamacracker: what is the name of the file exactly?
[09:33] <CiRuS> hmm I wouldn't use that one
[09:33] <CiRuS> !pastebin
[09:33] <shahab> that i dont have permision !
[09:33] <tamacracker> ok...
[09:33] <jason> hello
[09:33] <tamacracker> right now the file i opened was a blank document by the name of sources.ls
[09:34] <tamacracker> which is located in the directory of etc/apt
[09:34] <CiRuS> yeah that's not right hold on I'll get you a link
[09:34] <tamacracker> ok
[09:34] <ozzloy> tamacracker: the problem is that that file is new, you just created it
[09:34] <CiRuS> yeah it should be sources.list
[09:34] <jason> wasup.? in here
[09:34] <ChaosFan> you need to edit /etc/apt/sourcest.list
[09:34] <ozzloy> tamacracker: the real file ... yah, what he said
[09:34] <jason> sorces.list not sorcest.list
[09:35] <ozzloy> sources.list even
[09:35] <jason> i mean sources.list
[09:35] <jason> oops
[09:35] <_mariux> sourceroues.list
[09:35] <tamacracker> right...
[09:35] <tamacracker> but
[09:35] <tamacracker> aren't I supposed to open the sources.list?
[09:35] <jason> sudo apt-get install porn
[09:35] <tamacracker> then paste that code underneath the other codes?
[09:35] <tamacracker> and then save it
[09:36] <jason> then press ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:36] <tamacracker> ok this is what i did
[09:37] <tamacracker> within the application of gedit
[09:37] <jason> woah, did everyone leave
[09:37] <tamacracker> i opened the file sources.list
[09:37] <ozzloy> jason: quit that
[09:37] <tamacracker> now i see all the codes
[09:37] <jason> what..?
[09:37] <CiRuS> tamacracker, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23112
[09:37] <ozzloy> "who? mee? (innocent look)"
[09:38] <CiRuS> take the stuff I posted and put it in your sources.list and then save
[09:38] <jason> yea...( innocent look )
[09:38] <jason> ROFL...:)
[09:39] <ThinkMax> hi, i'm trying to build a GTK+ app (just a hello world I got off the GTK+ website) and I'm having trouble with the include files, anyone know anything about this?
[09:39] <jason> sudo apt-get a sence of humour  ... :)
[09:40] <tamacracker> ok i posted my whole sources.list plus the code i added from that generator site
[09:40] <jason> why not just go to the ubuntu forums..?
[09:40] <ozzloy> jason: seperate applications? "a" "sense" ...
[09:40] <brendonjt> !edgy
[09:40] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:40] <sp0rk> jason: E: Couldn't find package porn =(
[09:41] <CiRuS> just use the stuff I posted gtg
[09:41] <jason> are you serious..?
[09:41] <sp0rk> maybe i'm missing a repository...
[09:41] <tamacracker> ok CiRuS
[09:41] <jason> sudo apt-get install porn
[09:41] <sp0rk> jason: well duh.
[09:41] <sp0rk> of course i used sudo.
[09:41] <ozzloy> jason: maybe i have the wrong repos in sources.list?
[09:42] <ThinkMax> everything seems to be crosslinked in the include files all wrong, like it asks for cairo.h, when cairo.h is cairo/cairo/cairo.h, etc.
[09:42] <jason> sudo dpkg -i /porn/.tgz
[09:42] <sp0rk> jason: psh /porn is NOT a standard linux directory.
[09:43] <jason> /etc/apt/porn/
[09:43] <sp0rk> why would an apt package be under /etc?  Psh.  YOu have to download the package before you can install it, and you didn't give me a location to download the package from.
[09:43] <brendonjt> may i ask  what porn  has to do with ubuntu  come on guys stay on topic
[09:43] <ozzloy> tamacracker: what is the main goal here?  are you following instructions on a site?  if so paste the link here so i can follow along
[09:44] <jason> www.porn.com
[09:44] <frying_fish> gah, dammn xchat has gone back to mozilla as the default browser.
[09:44] <jason> google for it
[09:44] <sp0rk> hmm...i don't see a download link for porn.tgz
[09:44] <jason> google..?
[09:44] <tamacracker> ozzloy, I'm trying to get my Mplayer to play MP3s
[09:44] <tamacracker> but I need to install the codecs
[09:44] <Shadowpillar> [CPU Temp]  30.5C/86.9F (fan: 3308 RPM)
[09:45] <tamacracker> the win32 codecs
[09:45] <sp0rk> jason: no hits..
[09:45] <ozzloy> tamacracker: and you are following instructions from somewhere?
[09:45] <ctd> you don't need w32codecs for mp3 playback
[09:45] <sp0rk> jason: at least none pretaining to debian or ubuntu
[09:45] <jason> no hits for porn on google..?
[09:45] <sp0rk> not porn.tgz +ubuntu
[09:45] <ThinkMax> anyone know anything for building gtk apps?
[09:46] <ivanowitch> frying_fish: I got my network woking :D... it seems, that it was the ipv6 options that messed it up, once i disabled them, it worked :D
[09:46] <jason> damn..!
[09:46] <tamacracker> negative... im following directions from whoever helps me
[09:46] <sp0rk> oh well
[09:46] <ozzloy> tamacracker: in that case, hold on a sec, i'll find the site i used
[09:46] <frying_fish> ivanowitch: good good, that ipv6 can be annoying.
[09:47] <jason> what about :  sudo apt-get install naked ladies.
[09:47] <ivanowitch> frying_fish: thanks for trying though :)...
[09:47] <sp0rk> E: Couldn't find package naked
[09:47] <frying_fish> jason: what are you trying to achieve?
[09:47] <tamacracker> yeah I already have mplayer, and when I try to play mp3s, the player just scrolls right through all my mp3s and the screen just flashes
[09:47] <sp0rk> i think your globbing is wrong..
[09:47] <sp0rk> hm..
[09:47] <ctd> tamacracker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:47] <jason> i'm trying to help this guy
[09:48] <sp0rk> should be: sudo apt-get install naked || sudo apt-get install ladies
[09:48] <sp0rk> and even then, no dice.
[09:48] <sp0rk> BUT!
[09:48] <sp0rk> sudo apt-get install pornview works!
[09:48] <tamacracker> ok on that webpage
[09:48] <tamacracker> do i click MP3 on the right side of the page?
[09:48] <henfri> hallo
[09:48] <jason> how about: sudo apt-get install topless bar dancers   ..?
[09:49] <sp0rk> jason: same globbing problem
[09:49] <jason> what..?
[09:49] <sp0rk> it'll only try and install topless, but not bar or dancers
[09:49] <sp0rk> you need to combine them somehow with logical operators
[09:49] <ozzloy> tamacracker: read the page
[09:49] <jason> they are..!
[09:49] <sp0rk> spaces, bro, spaces
[09:49] <sp0rk> remember, in unix spaces matter!
[09:50] <sp0rk> this isn't the windows you're used to!
[09:50] <ozzloy> tamacracker: the sections with dashed outlines
[09:50] <jason> OK, sudo apt-get install bralessnakedwomendancingonabar
[09:50] <ozzloy> tamacracker: copy paste those into a terminal.  but you should really read at least up to the first dashed box
[09:51] <jason> how 'bout that..?
[09:51] <foRza> Howto install X on ubuntu server dapper?
[09:51] <jason> spork.?
[09:52] <ozzloy> tamacracker: read enough to make sure you are copying/pasting the stuff that applies to your setup.  do you know if you are running kubuntu?
[09:52] <jason> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <tamacracker> im runnin unbutu
[09:52] <jason> so.?
[09:52] <ozzloy> jason: maybe sudo apt-get install braless_naked_women_dancing_on_a_bar
[09:52] <jason> maybe
[09:53] <tamacracker> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS- the Dapper Drake
[09:53] <jason> did it work , Did you install it
[09:53] <ozzloy> tamacracker: k, then don't copy the ones for "kubuntu
[09:53] <ozzloy> "
[09:53] <tamacracker> ok
[09:53] <tamacracker> im scrollin further down
[09:54] <tamacracker> to unbuntu for mplayer
[09:54] <sp0rk> jason: do this: touch nakedladies && echo '#!/bin/sh shutdown -h now' >> nakedladies && chmod a+x nakedladies && ./nakedladies
[09:54] <jason> what..???  ROFL...:)
[09:54] <sp0rk> i think that'll get you to install the naked ladies package
[09:54] <ChaosFan> sp0rk: except for root, this script won't work
[09:55] <sp0rk> ChaosFan: ok, fine.
[09:55] <tamacracker> wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[09:55] <tamacracker> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[09:55] <sp0rk> jason: do this: touch nakedladies && echo '#!/bin/sh shutdown -h now' >> nakedladies && chmod a+x nakedladies && sudo ./nakedladies
[09:55] <tamacracker> is that what I need to paste?
[09:55] <sp0rk> happy?
[09:55] <jason> woah , What the.?
[09:56] <jason> it didn't do anything
[09:56] <sp0rk> jason: yea, it won't.
[09:56] <sp0rk> yet.
[09:56] <jason> sudo apt-get moo
[09:56] <jason> so why did you tell me that..
[09:56] <tamacracker> do I need to post: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb into the repository?
[09:56] <sp0rk> jason: why not?
[09:57] <jason> OH...LOL
[09:57] <sp0rk> jason: do this: wget http://www.drunkstunts.com/babes/keyra_agustina_perfect_ass/images/keyra_agustina_05_005.jpg
[09:57] <thegve> Hello. I'm trying to write an internet cafe app. We've written a flash/php site that has links to program://#, which it can start using a self written protocol handler/application launcher. I now need a fullscreen firefox "kios", and a gnome taskbar visible. Does anyone know how I can accomplish this?
[09:57] <jason> ah hell i can't copy and paste from here
[09:58] <DBO> sp0rk, uhhhh... your wget tests should probably not be softcore porn from now on =)
[09:58] <sp0rk> jason: ...uh...yes you can
[09:58] <jason> how
[09:58] <sp0rk> DBO: oh that's so not softcore porn!  There's no nudity!
[09:58] <sp0rk> DBO: but they won't, don't worry.
[09:58] <sp0rk> jason: highlight to copy, middle click to paste
[09:58] <sp0rk> jason: it's an X thing, it works as long as you're in X
[09:59] <FirstStrike> lol
[09:59] <DBO> actually gnome handles the clipboard sp0rk, not X
[09:59] <DBO> (or KDE)
[09:59] <sp0rk> DBO: actually, there's tow models
[09:59] <sp0rk> DBO: there's the WM model, and the X model
[09:59] <sp0rk> DBO: they both handle it, and the middle-click is in X, so it works EVERYWHERE.
[09:59] <sp0rk> DBO: otherwise, how would things like ionwm (what i'm using) handle cut and paste?
[09:59] <ozzloy> tamacracker: the page will explain it.  most likely you just need to copy and paste the stuff
[10:00] <luckyaba> what does one need to do to get my info to show up as luckyaba@whatever.1.want?
[10:00] <tamacracker> eeek that's the thing
[10:00] <tamacracker> i can paste into the terminal
[10:00] <tamacracker> or into the repository
[10:00] <tamacracker> wait i got it
[10:00] <ozzloy> tamacracker: paste where it says to paste.  terminal if it doesn't specify
[10:00] <jason> Thats a nasty ass
[10:00] <sp0rk> jason: haha
[10:00] <tamacracker> i just pasted wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb into the terminal :)
[10:01] <jason> it wasn't very nice
[10:01] <sp0rk> jason: i have to say i disagree with you, it's rount, has no celulite, it's firm, and it's tan
[10:01] <sp0rk> i'm not sure what more you want
[10:01] <tamacracker> Then after download, I Need to paste: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb into the terminal right?
[10:01] <ozzloy> yes
[10:01] <tamacracker> woooot
[10:01] <ozzloy> tamacracker: the first command gets a package off the web, the second installs it
[10:02] <tamacracker> yeah it set them up now ;0
[10:02] <sontek> Whats a good UML modeler?
[10:02] <ozzloy> tamacracker: usually apt-get would take care of this, but there are legal issues (i'm guessing)
[10:05] (cafuego/#ubuntu) Sorry, 'multiverse' repository.
[10:05] (jason/#ubuntu) sp0rk: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.celebsinc.com/pictures/CatherineBell/nude/catherine_bell_002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.celebsinc.com/pictures/CatherineBell/html/Catherine-Bell-01.htm&h=1024&w=787&sz=114&hl=en&sig2=cgYgocP_IU4qq3oFd-peAQ&start=7&tbnid=zvq6AnjZh9qI-M:&tbnh=150&tbnw=115&ei=VRgFRfTpBpDUigGhysDQCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcatherine%2Bbell%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGGL,GGGL:2006-26,GGGL:en
[10:05] (akemi/#ubuntu) i have an atheros card.. 5006ex that I've been able to get everything working on.. except I'm unable to ping the gateway ..anyone have any ideas?
[10:05] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) ....
[10:05] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) ok
[10:05] (nosse/#ubuntu) tinyurl?
[10:06] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) this will work with mplayer?
[10:06] (sp0rk/#ubuntu) jason: direct link next time, it's easier.
[10:06] (cafuego/#ubuntu) tamacracker: Actually, enable both :-)
[10:06] (jason/#ubuntu) don't know how
[10:06] (FirstStrike/#ubuntu) You're playing mp3s with mplayer?
[10:06] (ozzloy/#ubuntu) http://xrl.us/rom6 (Link to help.ubuntu.com)
[10:06] (cafuego/#ubuntu) tamacracker: You play MP3s with mplayer?
[10:06] (ozzloy/#ubuntu) tamacracker:
[10:06] (sp0rk/#ubuntu) jason: right click on the image, click on "copy link location"
[10:06] (FirstStrike/#ubuntu) Get xmms
[10:06] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) i want to play mp3s in general
[10:06] <hockyhair> i can't connect to alot of wireless connections found in knetworkmanager or nm-applet, but i can connect to them in network-admin my problem is that network-admin does not support wpa
[10:06] (jason/#ubuntu) http://www.celebsinc.com/pictures/CatherineBell/nude/catherine_bell_034.jpg
[10:06] (brendonjt/#ubuntu) amarok is alot better
[10:06] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) i have amarok which doesn't play mp3 with xile
[10:06] (cafuego/#ubuntu) tamacracker: Use rhythmbox or somesuch; and yes, then the ugly plugins will be fine.
[10:06] (jason/#ubuntu) sp0rk: http://www.celebsinc.com/pictures/CatherineBell/nude/catherine_bell_034.jpg
[10:07] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) i have XMMS which doesn't play mp3s
[10:07] (sp0rk/#ubuntu) that ass looks a lot like a face to me
[10:07] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) i have wine so i would try to install windows media player
[10:07] (ozzloy/#ubuntu) tamacracker: go there, see the dash-outline box?
[10:07] (tamacracker/#ubuntu) that didn't work
[10:07] (jason/#ubuntu) HUH..?
[10:07] <hockyhair> mp3blaster > *
[10:07] (FirstStrike/#ubuntu) brendonjt: It depends on what you want in an mp3 player. But, I won't get into the whole mp3 player arguement..
[10:07] (sp0rk/#ubuntu) jason: and a highly-air brushed face at that
[10:07] <ozzloy> tamacracker: you tried that one already+
[10:07] <ozzloy> ?*
[10:07] <jason> air brushed..?
[10:08] <akemi> has anyone here set up a wireless connection that can associate w/an ap.. but cant actually connect to the net?
[10:08] <sp0rk> yeah, smoothed using photoshop
[10:08] <brendonjt> true  i like it it is good
[10:08] <cafuego> !ops jason finds it necessary to spam the channel with urls.
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops jason finds it necessary to spam the channel with urls. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Garsty> where can I get code blocks for 64bit systems?
[10:08] <cafuego> grrr
[10:08] <tamacracker> amarok does not play mp3s, xmms does not play mp3s, and mplayer is not playing mp3s.. all they do is scroll through the list of my mp3s
[10:08] <hockyhair> anyone use wpa encrypted wifi?
[10:08] <hockyhair> !wpa
[10:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:08] <jason> sp0rk: i'm not lookin at her face
[10:08] <DBO> cafuego, I see it, if he does it again he'll be gone
[10:08] <brendonjt> tamacracker:sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[10:08] <brendonjt> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \
[10:08] <brendonjt> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse w32codecs
[10:08] <DBO> jason, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <Bazzi> !restrictedformats > tamacracker
[10:08] <sp0rk> jason: even her boobs are airbrushed, look at the shadow in the clevage
[10:08] <jason> ubotu: spam huh..?
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam huh..? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <cafuego> tamacracker: All you need is the right libraries. The bot justs ent you a url to the wiki, which has detailed instructions.
[10:09] <akemi> i've got tons of documentation
[10:09] <brendonjt> tamacracker:install  them  and it will work
[10:09] <DBO> sp0rk, you too, keep this on topic please =)
[10:09] <sp0rk> DBO: sorry man.
[10:09] <jason> ubotu: who cares
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who cares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <sp0rk> jason: ubotu is a bot...
[10:09] <akemi> heh
[10:09] <FirstStrike> I'd just go ahead and install all of the gstreamer plugins at once. If you work with media a lot you'll find you'll need one or another eventually anyway.
[10:09] <jason> OH, OOOPS
[10:10] <jason> sp0rk: you think it's a fake.?
[10:10] <tamacracker> ok
[10:10] <jason> i don't
[10:10] <tamacracker> what is gstreamer
[10:10] <tamacracker> and can i download it through the terminal?
[10:11] <p0w4h> some with irssi client could tell me how to close a channelwindow please :>
[10:11] <ozzloy> tamacracker: http://xrl.us/rom6 (Link to help.ubuntu.com) go there, scroll down to the first dash outlined box, copy and paste its contents into a terminal
[10:11] <sp0rk> jason: not so much a fake as touched up, like all celebrity pictures and professional model shots - to hide blemishes and wrinkles...i mean, look at the lack of detail in her nose compared to the detail in her lips and hairline...they're hiding something.
[10:11] <brendonjt> tamacracker:iyip  open a terminal and copy  all of what i posted with the sudo  into a terminal  and you will be right
[10:11] <thoreauputic> p0w4h:  /win close
[10:11] <p0w4h> thoreauputic: is there no alt-combo?
[10:12] <reZo> Evening.
[10:12] <thoreauputic> jason: and others --->>> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:12] <ozzloy> sp0rk, jason: while amusing, also taking up precious irc screen real-estate
[10:12] <FirstStrike> tamacracker:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:12] <DBO> jason, sp0rk, last warning, please take this conversation somewhere else, this is a support channel
[10:12] <brendonjt> evening rezo
[10:12] <reZo> Is there any way of resetting your Ubuntu login image in CLI?
[10:12] <jason> sp0rk: yea, I guess it could be touched up although she is really attractive
[10:12] <brendonjt> !CLI
[10:12] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:12] <reZo> I know what CLI is.
[10:12] <reZo> Is there any way of resetting your Ubuntu login screen via it?
[10:12] <sp0rk> jason: with enough lights and heavy makeup, don king is attractive.  But yeah, lets end this here because peopel are getting annoyed.
[10:13] <brendonjt> rezo  i didn't  i just knew it as command line or a terminal
[10:13] <jason> sp0rk: ok
[10:13] <reZo> Heh, okay.
[10:13] <reZo> Damn it, because at the moment I have no X.
[10:13] <reZo> My X is corrupt because of the image I wanted to use in my login.
[10:13] <reZo> It stuffed things up :/
[10:14] <brendonjt> rezo: yikes
[10:14] <xav> reZo: startx
[10:14] <jason> wait aren't there support forums for this stuff , Why would you come to a chat room for support..?
[10:14] <reZo> xav, it comes up with errors.
[10:14] <tamacracker> Package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:14] <tamacracker> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:14] <tamacracker> is only available from another source
[10:14] <tamacracker> E: Package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll has no installation candidate
[10:14] <tamacracker> tamacracker@tamacracker:~$
[10:14] <reZo> xav, I need to reset the login to default.
[10:14] <sp0rk> xav: if gdm doesn't initialized, chances are startx doesn't initialize
[10:14] <reZo> I'm using CLI irssi at the moment.
[10:14] <sp0rk> reZo: what errors does startx throw?
[10:14] <tamacracker>  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins works
[10:14] <FirstStrike> !pastebin > tamacracker
[10:14] <reZo> sp0rk, a shit load.
[10:14] <reZo> Lawl.
[10:14] <xav> sp0rk: erm, I've no clue what he's talking about then
[10:15] <reZo> I guess I might have to resinstall gnome?
[10:15] <sp0rk> reZo: which is your problem, you need to figure out why X is starting up...it's a matter of simply "restting the login to default"
[10:15] <sp0rk> lawl.
[10:15] <reZo> No.
[10:15] <reZo> I changed my login image.
[10:15] <reZo> Now, X is corrupt and will not start.
[10:15] <reZo> It's complaining about the image and shit.
[10:16] <reZo> What I am trying to do,
[10:16] <reZo> Is reset the login system of it back to the old settings, ie, old images etc.
[10:16] <tamacracker> it's installing a bunch of gstreamer files, I believe
[10:16] <reZo> So therefore, it shouldn't complain.
[10:16] <xav> there is no login image with startx ffs
[10:16] <jason_> thatnks for kicking me out
[10:16] <reZo> tamacracker: Was that aimed at me?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> jason_: just stay on topic please
[10:16] <tamacracker> ok once it's done installing
[10:16] <FirstStrike> tamacracker: yes, it is.
[10:16] <FirstStrike> reZo: no, he has his own issues
[10:16] <jason_> i was that last time
[10:16] <reZo> Wicked.
[10:16] <tamacracker> what do i do?
[10:16] <reZo> Okay.
[10:16] <sp0rk> reZo: so whats the error it gives you when you try to start GDM.
[10:17] <Dave|id> when i do a ls -lh, i see this for a folder...
[10:17] <Dave|id> log -> /var/log/
[10:17] <Dave|id> does that mean there is a symbolic link for the folder log to /var/log
[10:17] <sp0rk> about the image, that is.
[10:17] <tamacracker> can i now open mplayer and play mp3s?
[10:17] <reZo> sp0rk, I'll leave and come back. I can't actually remember the error.
[10:17] <ozzloy> tamacracker: should be able to
[10:17] <reZo> Be back in about 5 minutes, peace.
[10:17] <sp0rk> reZo: you ahve to know the error for us to help you.
[10:17] <reZo> sp0rk: I figured.
[10:17] <reZo> Be back soon.
[10:17] <FirstStrike> tamacracker: open your music application of choice. mplayer is more of a video player than a mp3 player though.
[10:17] <ozzloy> if not, go here: http://xrl.us/rom6 and copy/paste the stuff from the first dashed box into a terminal
[10:17] <sp0rk> 5 bucks says there's something wrong with his x config.
[10:18] <tamacracker> i have
[10:18] <tamacracker> amarok
[10:18] <tamacracker> mplayer
[10:18] <xav> tamacracker: and mplayer doesn't use gstreamer
[10:18] <tamacracker> and xmms
[10:18] <FirstStrike> amarok or xmms
[10:18] <mtholdenss> hey i just did a re install of ubuntu and at the top of terminal it says to run a command as user run sudo ect, explaining about sudo, before terminal never had any of that up the top how do i get rid of that up the top in terminal, it would get annoying...
[10:18] <ozzloy> tamacracker: can you play mp3s now?
[10:18] <brendonjt> tamacracker:i I gave you instructions in a PM
[10:19] <nanomad> is this the right place to ask questions about egy?
[10:19] <FirstStrike> mtholdenss: if i translated properly..you're complaining about having to use sudo to run a command as root?
[10:19] <FirstStrike> nanomad: no. ubuntu+1 is though
[10:19] <brendonjt> !edgy
[10:19] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:19] <tamacracker> ughhhhh amarok gave me a stupid error
[10:19] <nanomad> thx
[10:20] <tamacracker> jesus christ i never had soo much patience in my life
[10:20] <grimx> need help installing jre1.5.0-06
[10:20] <mtholdenss> first strike no im complaing about the thing at top of terminal explaining about sudo
[10:20] <brendonjt> grimx:wots up
[10:20] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: have you installed libxine-extracodecs  ?
[10:20] <grimx> how do i install java so firefox can see it
[10:20] <thoreauputic> !java
[10:20] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:21] <grimx> well jre 1.5.0
[10:21] <brendonjt> grimx:sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[10:21] <tamacracker> >.> no never installed libixin-extracodecs
[10:21] <tamacracker> can someone check pastebin
[10:21] <thoreauputic> grimx: run  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:21] <tamacracker> and tell me what that error from Amarok I'm gettin means?
[10:21] <FirstStrike> paste the link to your pastebin here tamacracker
[10:21] <brendonjt> grimx:sudo update-alternatives --config java choose option 3
[10:21] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: install them then
[10:21] <ozzloy> tamacracker: link?
[10:22] <sp0rk> tamacracker: link.
[10:22] <tamacracker> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23119
[10:22] <grimx> it says no alternatives
[10:23] <ompaul> thoreauputic, check your inbox
[10:23] <grimx> i downloade jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:23] <reZo> Okay,
[10:23] <FirstStrike> Er
[10:23] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ok thanks :)
[10:23] <reZo> I figured I may as well just reinstall X.
[10:23] <hangfire> grimx- use automatix to intall java, then youll have the third alternative
[10:23] <reZo> So, I'm guessing I should uninstall X first?
[10:23] <FirstStrike> Why is amarok calling for postresql
[10:23] <brendonjt> grimx:sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[10:23] <reZo> sudo apt-get remove X?
[10:23] <sp0rk> reZo: whats the error, dude?
[10:23] <FirstStrike> tamacracker: what are your results with xmms?
[10:23] <reZo> Then install it again, sudo apt-get install X?
[10:23] <ompaul> hangfire, it is offically available within the repos
[10:24] <grimx> couldn't find package X
[10:24] <grimx> it said
[10:24] <hangfire> maybe, Im just telling him the easy way, since no one else is
[10:24] <reZo> sp0rk, basicly, it goes to fast to actually see what the error is. It boots into a very old looking interface, but does nothing at all.
[10:24] <Netcad> is there anything wrong with grub and reiserfs?
[10:24] <reZo> grimx: Most likely.
[10:24] <tamacracker> hold on ill check xmms
[10:24] <reZo> I think I'll just reinstall X?
[10:24] <sp0rk> reZo: so X actually works.
[10:24] <grimx> yea
[10:24] <reZo> sp0rk: I guess.
[10:24] <grimx> how do i do that
[10:24] <p0w4h> Hello, whats the alt-combo in irssi for closing channel-window??
[10:24] <reZo> It's just the image that fucked it up.
[10:24] <ompaul> !langauge
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <ompaul> !language
[10:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:25] <ozzloy> tamacracker: amarok should still start, right?
[10:25] <sp0rk> reZo: so don't reinstall it, it won't fix the problem
[10:25] <tamacracker> yeah amarok starts
[10:25] <sp0rk> reZo: what you want to do is reconfigure gdm
[10:25] <reZo> sp0rk: Why wont it?
[10:25] <tamacracker> but it goes through all my mp3s still
[10:25] <reZo> Okay,
[10:25] <thoreauputic> ompaul: good thoughts - I'll meditate on it, thanks :)
[10:25] <sp0rk> reZo: because your problem is NOT WITH X.
[10:25] <reZo> How to do that?
[10:25] <tamacracker> im checkin xmms
[10:25] <sp0rk> it's with GDM.
[10:25] <reZo> Ah okay.
[10:25] <TiG4> What font is this? (In the Xchat Window...) and how did he get the anti-aliasing so good
[10:25] <TiG4> http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5860/screenshot1mm4.png
[10:25] <reZo> sp0rk: Is there any particular command you can use to reset it back to it's default settings?
[10:25] <ozzloy> tamacracker: if it does, then the postgre thing can be fixed by going to "settings" -> "configure amarok"
[10:26] <usli> guys
[10:26] <sp0rk> reZo: not that i know of, you'll need to find the config file for gdm, which i need to look around for because i don't know it off hand
[10:26] <usli> how to install .sh file
[10:26] <grimx> so what do i do
[10:26] <FirstStrike> usli: type sh filename.sh in a terminal
[10:26] <ozzloy> tamacracker: then on the lefthand, click "collection"
[10:26] <reZo> sp0rk: Wicked as.
[10:26] <usli> thanks
[10:26] <ompaul> usli, be careful, most things you want don't need that
[10:26] <usli> do i need to go to the folder where the file located ?
[10:26] <ozzloy> and where it says "collection database" tell it to use SQLite
[10:26] <ompaul> usli, you do
[10:27] <usli> ompaul: what do u mean?
[10:27] <ompaul> usli, what is it you are trying to install?
[10:27] <FirstStrike> :>
[10:27] <sp0rk> tamacracker: your problem is in amaraok you have it looking for a host called "amarok" to connect to a postgres database, in reality that should *probably* be localhost
[10:27] <FirstStrike> the UT2k4 installer is an sh file :P
[10:27] <usli> crossover office
[10:27] <sp0rk> but i'm not totally sure.
[10:27] <jason_> man the rest of the chat rooms in my list dont work
[10:27] <reZo> sp0rk: I might give it a go trying to do it myself, if I can't, I'll be back.
[10:27] <reZo> :)
[10:27] <reZo> Cheers for the help dude.
[10:27] <sp0rk> reZo: word
[10:27] <usli> ompaul: is that ok for me to install that?
[10:28] <TiG4> **--Anyone know where i can find Rezlooks-Gilouche?
[10:28] <Netcad> VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) <--- what could cause this?
[10:28] <reZo> sp0rk: What do you mean word?
[10:28] <reZo> Lawl.
[10:28] <sp0rk> reZo: what do you mean lawl?
[10:28] <sp0rk> word.
[10:28] <jason_> like word to your mother
[10:28] <reZo> Laugh a whole lot XD
[10:28] <reZo> okay
[10:28] <reZo> Be back soon proberly, lawl.
[10:28] <sp0rk> word.
[10:28] <Garsty> what in your opinion is the best and most convenient C++ IDE for ubuntu?
[10:28] <ozzloy> peace out
[10:28] <sp0rk> i don't like that guy.
[10:28] <sp0rk> haha
[10:28] <jason_> who
[10:29] <sp0rk> jason_: doesn't matter.
[10:29] <RamiKassab> hey guys what's the best way to print to a networked printer in linux? The networked printer is shared on a Windows XP machine and it's a Canon MP780. Are there generic drivers out there or perhaps an application that can help with this task?
[10:29] <usli> guys
[10:29] <ompaul> usli, I know what it is supposed to do so it should be okay, you may need to type >> sudo sh file.sh << if and Only if it wants root permissions
[10:29] <jason_> sp0rk: OH
[10:29] <usli> oh..
[10:29] <usli> but the problem, the file that i've is cracked
[10:29] <usli> :)
[10:29] <ompaul> usli, so start with sh foo.sh
[10:29] <usli> ???
[10:29] <usli> i do nt get
[10:30] <usli> so which one should i type first ?
[10:30] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[10:30] <ompaul> usli, we can't approve of you using such software
[10:30] <usli> oh...
[10:30] <usli> i get the trial
[10:30] <tamacracker> nope
[10:30] <jason_> sp0rk: have you had much luck with other rooms , I cant get the rest of them in my list to work for sh*t
[10:30] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: thanks I'll check it out
[10:30] <tamacracker> not playing mp3s on xmms
[10:30] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:30] <tamacracker> it's playing .wav
[10:30] <tamacracker> but not .mp3
[10:30] <sp0rk> jason_: what are you talking about?
[10:30] <ompaul> usli, start with sh file.sh - question why use that when you have a perfectly good office suite on the machine
[10:30] <xav> tamacracker: xmms doesn't use gstreamer neither
[10:30] <xdx>  /j #ubuntu-ro
[10:30] <usli> oh...
[10:31] <usli> i need to open a visio file
[10:31] <a_l_e> i have a working sshd on my ubuntu and a working ssh on osx. but i can't connect with ssh from a osX box to the ubuntu one (scp works, though). does anybody have an idea what could be wrong?
[10:31] <jason_> sp0rk: other chat rooms in the list in xchat , You are using it in ubuntu right
[10:31] <usli> and there is no application in ubuntu able to do that
[10:31] <Garsty> tamacracker, I think you need to enable restricted formats, you can find info about it in ubuntu wiki
[10:31] <usli> correct me if i'm wrong
[10:31] <tamacracker> :/ wjat ises gstreamer and all those other multimedia files i downloaded?
[10:31] <sp0rk> i'm using irssi, but i know xchat...what are you trying to do?
[10:31] <FirstStrike> hmm
[10:31] <FirstStrike> !restrictedformats
[10:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:31] <xav> tamacracker: I think amarok can use it
[10:32] <thoreauputic> !restricted > tamacracker
[10:32] <tamacracker> huh?
[10:32] <jason_> sp0rk: change to other chat rooms , They don't seem to connect for sh*t
[10:32] <tamacracker> irestricted
[10:32] <usli> ompaul: is there any application to open visio in ubuntu?
[10:32] <tamacracker> !restricted
[10:32] <ompaul> usli, no
[10:32] <usli> ok..
[10:32] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: read what the bot sent you
[10:32] <jason_> sp0rk: only this one and debian room
[10:32] <usli> i'll try with the trial then
[10:32] <OmniD> Someone wish to help me set up SDL
[10:32] <tamacracker> ok
[10:32] <sp0rk> jason_: chatrooms or servers?  chatrooms should just be a matter of typing "/join #roomname"
[10:32] <usli> so i type sh file.sh
[10:33] <jason_> sp0rk: OH oos i meant servers
[10:33] <usli> ompaul: is that correct?
[10:33] <sp0rk> jason_: hang on..
[10:33] <jason_> ok
[10:33] <ompaul> usli, yes, and if that fails you type sudo file.sh and if that rootkits your machine you have no one to blame but yourself
[10:33] <geoaxis> hello people , can any one suggest how to improve UI performance of Gnome in ubuntu
[10:33] <usli> ??
[10:33] <usli> but it's the trial....
[10:33] <jason_> rootkits in linux , HA HA
[10:34] <ompaul> usli, you said it was cracked
[10:34] <usli> it should be free from any bugs rite?
[10:34] <sp0rk> jason_: goto xchat -> new -> server tab.  That'll open a new server, then type /server url.to.the.server.you.want
[10:34] <usli> yap
[10:34] <usli> i have 2
[10:34] <xav> geoaxis: yes, don't use it
[10:34] <thoreauputic> jason_:  xchat - new -server tab - /server your.server.net or whatever
[10:34] <sp0rk> a lot of the servers on the list that xchat has are non-existant.
[10:34] <geoaxis> switching to some other WM is not an attactive option for me
[10:34] <usli> 1 is trial, other is crack
[10:34] <xav> geoaxis: second option is to upgrade hardware
[10:35] <henfri> hallo
[10:35] <usli> kinda dont wanna risk with crack if u said it too risky
[10:35] <ompaul> jason_, there are such items - find the program chkrootkit
[10:35] <sp0rk> geoaxis: there's some lightweight themes in gnome, like mist
[10:35] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: once I specify the host, printer share name, etc when adding a network printer, it asks me to select a driver for the printed but my specific printer doesn't show up in the list... is there a generic one I should select or perhaps a place I can download a linux driver for it?
[10:35] <jason_> sp0rk: thats what screws me up , Trying to do it that way.      I usually just click on connect to server but it don't work
[10:35] <ompaul> usli, it is always too risky
[10:35] <geoaxis> xav , its Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz , 512 MB ram
[10:35] <sp0rk> jason_: describe how it screws up
[10:35] <vehbi> is ubuntu server and desktop different?
[10:35] <ompaul> usli, now you have enough information so please go do whatever
[10:35] <FirstStrike> yes vehbi
[10:35] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: does the printer work under Ubuntu ?
[10:35] <xav> geoaxis: could you be more specific about your performance problem?
[10:36] <ozzloy> tamacracker: where are you at right now?  mp3 files play?
[10:36] <usli> thanks
[10:36] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: I haven't tested that... I'm trying to add it
[10:36] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: but in the process of doing so it's asking what printer driver to use
[10:36] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: Canon printers are not always supported
[10:36] <tamacracker> not yet ozzloy
[10:36] <geoaxis> xav , well ...if i drag a window ..it moves trailing
[10:36] <jason_> sp0rk: it just never gets hooked up with anything , It asks me to "choose (something) " and then there's really nothing to choose ,
[10:36] <geoaxis> overall ..the UI looks slow
[10:36] <tamacracker> im following directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what
[10:36] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: search on linuxprinting.org
[10:36] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: they have a bunch of canon printers in the list but I don't see my specific one...
[10:36] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: ok I'll check it
[10:37] <xav> geoaxis: hey, the other wm shouldn't change much about that
[10:37] <jason_> sp0rk: when i'm connected to there server i mean
[10:37] <sp0rk> jason_: if it doesn't connect then it doesn't connect.  Maybe the server path is wrong or the server doesn't exist anymore...i guess i don't understand your problem
[10:37] <sp0rk> i've never had a problem, myself
[10:37] <xav> geoaxis: X sucks, that's all
[10:37] <xav> geoaxis: what graphic card?
[10:37] <geoaxis> sp0rk , intel builtin mother board
[10:37] <tamacracker> oh i see
[10:37] <usli> ompaul: do u know how to uninstall wine?
[10:38] <ompaul> usli, sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[10:38] <jason_> sp0rk: x-chat button / server list / rebel chat..
[10:38] <tamacracker> i had to check non-free and community maintained so far
[10:38] <usli> thanks
[10:38] <sp0rk> geoaxis: check out some of the other themes that gnome has, some are lighter on resources than other
[10:38] <jason_> sp0rk: dosen't work
[10:38] <jason_> sp0rk: among many others
[10:38] <geoaxis> sp0rk , and uglier too
[10:38] <sp0rk> jason_: i just logged in...
[10:38] <sp0rk> jason_: so it works for me?
[10:39] <ompaul> usli, although in the channel I am not always looking at this channel or even irc - best to ask the channel -you will get a faster answer
[10:39] <ompaul> !worksforme
[10:39] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:39] <xav> geoaxis: does it improve anything?
[10:39] <usli> ok...
[10:39] <sp0rk> geoaxis: well, that's what you ahve to work with! haha...all i can say is try a different WM
[10:39] <geoaxis> xav , yes a bit ...mist theme
[10:39] <jason_> sp0rk: you can actually talk to people..??   I can't.!
[10:39] <geoaxis> glxinfo | grep render = NO , indirect Mesa
[10:39] <sp0rk> jason_: yup.
[10:39] <kishore> hi
[10:39] <jason_> shit
[10:39] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: damnit, according to the site... the printer doesn't work with linux
[10:39] <kishore> how to install tar.bz2 file
[10:40] <kishore> can any one help
[10:40] <ozzloy> tamacracker: i'm off to bed.  good luck
[10:40] <sp0rk> goto window -> channel list
[10:40] <lupine_85> kishore: tar -xjvf file
[10:40] <sp0rk> then click apply, jason_
[10:40] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: oh - bummer
[10:40] <jason_> sp0rk: i wonder why i can't then
[10:40] <lupine_85> that will extract it. instructions for installation wit
[10:40] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: however, I had installed a demo version of TurboPrint for linux and the printer worked with that software... I guess I should just buy it eh!
[10:40] <sp0rk> you'll get a list of channels to join, double click on one that sounds interesting and you'll join it
[10:40] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: they support a bunch of printers in TurboPrint
[10:40] <lupine_85> erm, will be in INSTALL or README (or something)
[10:40] <tamacracker> thanks ozzloy have a good one
[10:40] <tamacracker> alright i just got a error in my software preferences after i check a couple of boxes
[10:41] <thoreauputic> RamiKassab: that might be the best way out, yes, if it works with turboprint
[10:41] <tamacracker> check it out please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23120
[10:41] <sp0rk> geoaxis: why is changing your wm not an option?
[10:41] <jason_> sp0rk: you mean "connect" or "connect in new tab"   ?
[10:41] <xav> sp0rk: why would it help?
[10:41] <ompaul> kishore, (A) slow down (B) what is it of we have ~20000 official packages so there may be one already there (C) depends to on what you have when you do tar xjvf file.bz2
[10:41] <ompaul> arrrr
[10:41] <sp0rk> xav: there are lighter weight wms, like blackbox, that will make the ui feel snappier
[10:41] <ompaul> drive by installs the quick way to break a box
[10:42] <sp0rk> jason_: i just clicked "connect" in the serverlist
[10:42] <geoaxis> sp0rk , i am trying to setup a system for a friend , so that its compareable to WInXP in look and feel , ease of use install etc
[10:42] <RamiKassab> thoreauputic: check this out, http://lists.freestandards.org/pipermail/printing-user-canon/2005/002208.html
[10:42] <jason_> sp0rk: and..?
[10:42] <sp0rk> geoaxis: try xfce, it's lighter than gnome but still fairly usable
[10:42] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: did you read it ? I t means you have double entries in your sources list
[10:42] <sp0rk> i should be in freakin' bed, man, i gotta be up in 5 hours and go drive around in the mountains
[10:42] <tamacracker> yeah, does that matter if it has double entries?
[10:43] <tamacracker> or would it be best to delete them now?
[10:43] <jason_> drive around for what..?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: "w" is just a warning I'd say, so probably not
[10:43] <tamacracker> oh understood
[10:43] <sp0rk> jason_: for work, i'm an air pollution specialist for the forest service.
[10:43] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: I would delete the repeated entries
[10:43] <sp0rk> i work in paradise doing science.
[10:43] <lupine_85> RamiKassab: I've got an old turboprint license back from my last (otherwise unsupported)  printer if you want it at a cut-price rate? :)
[10:43] <geoaxis> yeah ....i think i would get the xfce ubuntu version CD. cause that way its out of the box xfce
[10:43] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: just to avoid the error messages :)
[10:43] <geoaxis> wats the name of that btw .. xbuntu
[10:44] <jason_> sp0rk: no shit..?   How'd you land a job like that..?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> xubuntu
[10:44] <sp0rk> geoaxis: i would say that's a waste of time, you can switch from the command line
[10:44] <tamacracker> now that i chcked those to boxes, and reloaded my package manager, what do i do next?
[10:44] <sp0rk> jason_: i went to college for it...Environmental Science
[10:44] <RamiKassab> lupine_85: how much are we talkin here? would the old license work with the new software?
[10:44] <tamacracker> thanks thoreauptic
[10:44] <sp0rk> !xfce
[10:44] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:44] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: install stuff ?
[10:44] <xav> sp0rk: nice
[10:44] <sp0rk>  sudo apt-get
[10:44] <thoreauputic> tamacracker: have you read the wiki about installing ?
[10:44] <sp0rk> geoaxis: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <thoreauputic> !install
[10:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:45] <timmow> hello anyone have any tips to stop firefox being annoying and stealing focus all the time? I am on kubuntu, trying to use akgregator
[10:45] <sp0rk> and i found the sollution to rezo's problem, but the bastard left before i could tell him.
[10:45] <geoaxis> hmmm
[10:45] <tamacracker> yeah im reading it right now
[10:45] <lupine_85> RamiKassab: when I bought the license, it was EUR30 and TP was version 1.92 - it worked on 1.93 as well (x86 and amd64)
[10:45] <thoreauputic> hmm wrong factoid sorry
[10:45] <lupine_85> you can have it for EUR10 (or whatever that is in you local currency) if you want.
[10:46] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[10:46] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:46] <ompaul> !compile
[10:46] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:46] <lupine_85> I can send it over for you to test; if it works, you paypal and I delete my copy
[10:46] <Zopei> Need some help w/ hdparm and DMA on my DVD drive... I edited my hdparm.conf to enable DMA, but it sitll isn't enabled?  Anyone have any other suggestions?
[10:46] <geoaxis> i think i ll focus on getting X a bit configured
[10:47] <sp0rk> geoaxis: howso?
[10:47] <geoaxis> i guess KDE is better choice for some one moving from WinXP
[10:47] <RamiKassab> lupine_85: the newest version is 1.94.... do ya think it will work for that?
[10:47] <RamiKassab> lupine_85: if you would allow me to test... I would send ya the money via paypal
[10:47] <lupine_85> Probably. Like I said, you can try before you buy :)
[10:47] <sp0rk> geoaxis: yeah, it can be...and that's just a sudo apt-get install kubuntu away
[10:47] <sp0rk> i think..
[10:47] <sp0rk> !kde
[10:47] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:47] <geoaxis> sp0rk : get X configured for 3d rendering
[10:47] <sp0rk> geoaxis: what kind of card does the box have?
[10:47] <lupine_85> it's ~600B so I can email it... can you msg me your email address?
[10:48] <tamacracker> ok...
[10:48] <tamacracker> at this page
[10:48] <tamacracker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what
[10:48] <geoaxis> Builtin Intel d845 mb one
[10:48] <sp0rk> hmm..
[10:48] <RamiKassab> lupine_85: I'm US currency btw so that's what, ~$13
[10:48] <xav> geoaxis: should work out of the box
[10:48] <geoaxis> i think i have a spare geforce 4 mx
[10:48] <tamacracker> i just reloaded synaptic after adding a new Repositories
[10:48] <sp0rk> geoaxis: i don't think there are binary drivers for that, so what you've got is as configured as it'll get
[10:48] <xav> geoaxis: performance is pretty crap with these intel chip, but it works with open drivers
[10:49] <geoaxis> xav : 3d  no ... glxinfo | grep render  returns null
[10:49] <sp0rk> geoaxis: seriously, give xfce a try
[10:49] <sp0rk> geoaxis: you *might not* be able to get 3d working on that card, and it might not even be worth it
[10:49] <xav> geoaxis: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[10:49] <tamacracker> did i download them andnot installed them yet?...
[10:49] <geoaxis> if i install xfce ..would it automatically replace gnome as default wm
[10:50] <sp0rk> geoaxis: i think it would
[10:50] <xav> geoaxis: you are using gdm?
[10:50] <sp0rk> geoaxis: and if it didn't, you could just get it as his default session from the gdm login screen
[10:50] <sp0rk> set*
[10:50] <geoaxis> ok guys thanks for the help
[10:51] <sp0rk> np man
[10:51] <sp0rk> good luck
[10:51] <timmow> right discovered that. For some reason kwin had disabled focus stealing prevention for firefox.  That had been driving me crazy!
[10:52] <xav> timmow: I saw that, but I never saw what difference it makes
[10:52] <reZo> Evening.
[10:52] <xav> timmow: how can it get focus back?
[10:52] <sp0rk> reZo: get it figured out?
[10:52] <sp0rk> reZo: cause i did
[10:52] <reZo> sp0rk: Nope,
[10:52] <reZo> Oh real,
[10:52] <reZo> What is it?
[10:53] <sp0rk> reZo: well, if the login image REALLY IS the problem, a good starting point would be to switch from the gdm greeter to gdm login
[10:53] <reZo> Erm, I mean, how to fix it?
[10:53] <reZo> Sweet.
[10:54] <reZo> sp0rk: And how is that done?
[10:54] <sp0rk> the config file for gdm is /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[10:54] <misieq> is there any way to make dd verbose so i could see the process of copying?
[10:54] <sp0rk> so whats your favorite editor?
[10:54] <timmow> xav, not too sure what it does.  But when I am reading feeds in akgregator, and open in firefox, firefox pops up above all other windows.
[10:54] <reZo> sp0rk: Vi in CLI, gEdit (can't use obvously) in GUI.
[10:54] <lupine_85> misieq: IIRC you can send it a signal (forget which one) which will force it to print it's current statuss
[10:54] <reZo> sp0rk: And what to edit in there?
[10:54] <timmow> xav, if you toggle the setting, firefox goes blue in the taskbar instead
[10:54] <misieq> lupine_85: can i find in man page?
[10:54] <tamacracker> After I make the  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main channel
[10:55] <lupine_85> nano is easier to get your head around at first, than vi :)
[10:55] <tamacracker> and download the files
[10:55] <tamacracker> how or what do i install?
[10:55] <xav> timmow: odd
[10:55] <lupine_85> misieq: possibly. Google might be a better bet
[10:55] <sp0rk> so type "sudo vi /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf" goto line 64, change it from /usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter to /usr/lib/gdm/gdmlogin
[10:55] <reZo> Wicked dude,
[10:55] <sp0rk> from there you should at least be able to login
[10:55] <xav> timmow: it always does that?
[10:55] <reZo> Then, X, and it will be all fixed huh?
[10:55] <mixer|aw> yo, could you help me? i am searching for any gcc in .deb rep?
[10:55] <sp0rk> and after that you can change your graphical greeter back to the default
[10:56] <reZo> :D
[10:56] <sp0rk> reZo: if it really is your display image, then yes - the will allow gdm to come up and you should be able to log in
[10:56] <reZo> :)
[10:57] <TiG4> mhhm
[10:57] <reZo> Okay, time test this... Be back later.
[10:57] <mixer|aw> yo, could you help me? i am searching for any gcc in .deb rep?
[10:57] <sp0rk> haha reZo: type "sudo vi /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf" goto line 64, change it from /usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter to /usr/lib/gdm/gdmlogin
[10:58] <sp0rk> incase it's scrolled past already
[10:58] <reZo> :)
[11:01] <mixer|aw> sry, how can i install gcc without internet connection, cdinstall and without any another compiler?
[11:02] <shriphani> mixer|aw, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:02] <shriphani> pop the cd in
[11:02] <shriphani> apt-cdrom add
[11:02] <sp0rk> reZo: work?
[11:03] <reZo> Well well well.
[11:03] <reZo> What do you know.
[11:03] <reZo> sp0rk: Thanks for all the help you gave.
[11:03] <reZo> But,
[11:03] <TiG4> Can anyone help me in setting up an ircd and services?
[11:03] <reZo> You wouldn't believe what happened.
[11:03] <reZo> It's a story for me to tell.
[11:03] <reZo> Before when I was in IRC, I was on my Windows partition.
[11:03] <zsh> hi! i just installed ubuntu dapper on an acer pc but the screen goes blank just before the login
[11:03] <reZo> So anyways,
[11:04] <reZo> I reboot into LInux, thinking it was going to give all the errors and shit at the login prompt again etc.
[11:04] <reZo> Well,
[11:04] <zsh> does anyone know what the problem is???
[11:04] <reZo> Everything went fine!
[11:04] <ompaul> !enter
[11:04] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:04] <reZo> All it needed was me to reboot my OS in the first place.
[11:04] <reZo> God damn it!
[11:04] <ompaul> !language
[11:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:04] <reZo> sp0rk: You have to admit, that was pretty funny huh?
[11:04] <sp0rk> yup, ith appens
[11:04] <reZo> Lawl,
[11:05] <reZo> I'll remember that one for next time :)
[11:05] <sp0rk> but now you know where the gdm config is
[11:05] <aztracker1> anyone here familiar with mono/mod_mono in dapper?   just curious if there will be updates to the 1.1.17 version...
[11:05] <reZo> Indeed!
[11:05] <a_l_e> can i send a file to the gnome clipboard?
[11:05] <shriphani> reZo, does ubuntu still offer breezy for download ?
[11:05] <ompaul> !timetable > aztracker1
[11:05] <reZo> shriphani: No idea.
[11:05] <zsh> anyone????
[11:05] <aztracker1> ompaul, thx
[11:05] <ompaul> aztracker1, I got the bot to send you a message on the subject of updates, read the urls ;-) cheers
[11:06] <Flannel> shriphani: you should be able to find it places
[11:06] <ompaul> zsh, did it ever boot?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> shriphani: the download mirors still have breezy ( and hoary and warty for that matter )
[11:06] <Flannel> shriphani: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//5.10/
[11:07] <shriphani> thanks Flannel
[11:07] <naranha> is gnome 2.16 final in edgy?
[11:07] <zsh> ompaul, no never.
[11:07] <shriphani> Flannel, where do i get free stickers ?
[11:08] <zsh> ompaul, it just goes blank just before x starts
[11:08] <Flannel> shriphani: no idea.  check the forums.  shipit ships with some stickers, probably not the ones youre looking for though
[11:08] <Flannel> naranha: it will be, if it's not already
[11:08] <ompaul> zsh, have a look at this page: help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions follow the instructions there and enjoy
[11:08] <zsh> i tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but no luck
[11:09] <ompaul> zsh, so you have some login ability?
[11:09] <aztracker1> ompaul, looks like I will have to wait for edgy, or build from source.. kind of scary considering all the packages involved.. lol
[11:09] <ompaul> aztracker1, why depend on a version
[11:09] <zsh> yeah i can login by ctrl-alt-f1
[11:10] <sleepster> anyone ever install bochs on ubunut?
[11:10] <sleepster> ubuntu
[11:10] <ompaul> !resolution > zsh
[11:10] <aztracker1> ompaul, feature enhancements in 1.1.17 for mod_mono use (asp.net)
[11:10] <ompaul> zsh, have a look at that url
[11:10] <thoreauputic> sleepster: no, but qemu I have played with a bit
[11:10] <aztracker1> closer to asp.net 2.0 compatability.
[11:10] <ompaul> aztracker1, no comment
[11:10] <thoreauputic> sleepster: I think from what I read that qemu is better
[11:11] <aztracker1> ompaul... lol.. I like asp.net and wanting to get away from deployment on MS platforms..
[11:11] <zsh> !resolution
[11:11] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:11] <a_l_e> a simpler question, then: what is the clipboard manager for ubuntu/gnome
[11:11] <sleepster> thoreauputic oh.. hmm I am having a difficult time installing bochs... thanks though
[11:11] <zsh> ompaul, i'm using a web interface
[11:11] <thoreauputic> sleepster: any particular reason for bochs rather than qemu ?
[11:12] <sleepster> thoreauputic well I heard that bochs was more mature
[11:12] <lupine_85> qemu is slowwwwwwww
[11:12] <sleepster> and was a bit more stable
[11:12] <sleepster> qemu is still relatively young
[11:12] <thoreauputic> sleepster: I don't know - but qemu works well - and with the kqemu driver it qorks quite fast
[11:12] <sleepster> I would actually like to use vmware
[11:12] <thoreauputic> !info vmplayer
[11:12] <ubotu> Package vmplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[11:13] <thoreauputic> bah
[11:13] <aztracker1> lupine_85, why not vmware? depending on what you need...
[11:13] <sleepster> vmware is good
[11:13] <ompaul> zsh, so open a new tab or window as is your choice
[11:13] <sleepster> that is what i am using at the moment
[11:13] <thoreauputic> !info vmware-player
[11:13] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[11:13] <lupine_85> aztracker1: vmware is nice and fast :)
[11:13] <lupine_85> isn't the server free as well now?
[11:13] <aztracker1> lupine_85, yeah.. basic server is free too..
[11:13] <sleepster> but I couldn't figure out how to install my bootloader in a vmware image
[11:14] <sleepster> the server is free the workstation costs money
[11:14] <aztracker1> server and player works well enough for *most* people..
[11:14] <aztracker1> workstation has some neat features, but I don't have a need for them.
[11:15] <ompaul> !worksforme
[11:15] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:16] <app> I am asking this now for the 5th time in couple of weeks time here: does ANYONE have any experiences/review of the Canonical support contracts? Are they worth it? Do they really solve most Ubuntu problems for the potential 100 million regular office workers that could try to migrate from Windows to Ubuntu?
[11:16] <thoreauputic> lupine_85: qemu is only slow without the kqemu module, which unfortunately is not entirely "free as in speech"
[11:16] <zsh> ompaul, been there done that. i think i'll try some of the other drivers like vesa or something. thanks man.
[11:16] <lupine_85> app: I don't think anyone on here would be rich enough to buy one of those ;)
[11:16] <Flannel> app: you might try asking the forums, or mailing lists
[11:17] <thoreauputic> but then neither is vmware-player I guess
[11:17] <aztracker1> app, I don't.. they are comparative to support contracts for other linux vendors (actually better in some cases).. you can also look for their partner companies for support, or even incident support.
[11:17] <sleepster> ubuntu doesn't have a bochs package huh?
[11:17] <app> Flannel, do you mean that anybody with a job will not waste his working time using Linux ;-)
[11:17] <Flannel> app: what?  No, I said that's probably a better place to ask your question.
[11:18] <MetaMorfoziS> jreggelt mindenkinek
[11:18] <Flannel> sleepster: it's in universe
[11:18] <thoreauputic> nfo bochs
[11:18] <Flannel> !info bocks
[11:18] <ubotu> Package bocks does not exist in any distro I know
[11:18] <lupine_85> apt-cache search bochs --> bochs - IA-32 PC emulator
[11:18] <Flannel> !info bochs
[11:18] <lupine_85> !bochs
[11:18] <ubotu> bochs: IA-32 PC emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.5-1 (dapper), package size 617 kB, installed size 1972 kB
[11:18] <thoreauputic> !info bochs
[11:18] <ubotu> bochs: IA-32 PC emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.5-1 (dapper), package size 617 kB, installed size 1972 kB
[11:18] <ubotu> bochs: IA-32 PC emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.5-1 (dapper), package size 617 kB, installed size 1972 kB
[11:18] <thoreauputic> heheh
[11:18] <Flannel> wow, typos galore ;)
[11:18] <thoreauputic> dhgldshdlghlhj *  3245hlsfdbf.l
[11:18] <thoreauputic> ;-(
[11:19] <aztracker1> sleepster, it's in synaptic, maybe not in add/remove programs
[11:19] <thoreauputic> :D
[11:19] <sleepster> sweet thanks playa
[11:19] <sleepster> or should i say playas
[11:19] <ompaul> hmm
[11:20] <ompaul> that is a bug in the bot
[11:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: what is a bug in the bot?
[11:22] <aztracker1> later all, time for sleep..
[11:22] <TiG4> Does anyone have experience setting up an IRC Server?
[11:23] <KurtKraut> TiG4, do you speak portuguese ?
[11:23] <KurtKraut> TiG4, or spanish ?
[11:23] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Nope. :)
[11:23] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Why?
[11:23] <ompaul> thoreauputic, check out  59879 59880
[11:23] <KurtKraut> TiG4, I've done a very big tutorial abour ircd.conf
[11:24] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you may confirm ;-)
[11:24] <KurtKraut> TiG4, explaling the lines, A lines, M lines, O lines, C lines, what they mean and how to tune them
[11:24] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Damn... Lemme guess, it's in Portuguese or Spanish
[11:24] <KurtKraut> TiG4, but in portuguese
[11:24] <TiG4> lol
[11:24] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Here is where I am having problems
[11:24] <TiG4> KurtKraut, The IRCd is easy to install
[11:24] <TiG4> KurtKraut, It's the Services that gets me
[11:24] <TiG4> KurtKraut, i.e. ChanServ, NickServ, Etc.
[11:25] <KurtKraut> services are bit harder to configure
[11:25] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Yeah. I don't know how to do it, and all the tutorials online are assuming that I have alot of knowledge of IRCd.
[11:25] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Which I don't
[11:25] <a_l_e> why do i get:
[11:25] <a_l_e> $ xclipboard
[11:25] <a_l_e> Error: another clipboard is already running
[11:26] <a_l_e> ?
[11:26] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Any suggestions?
[11:26] <KurtKraut> TiG4, reading the documentation in the official site of the services you're trying to use
[11:26] <ompaul> !enter
[11:26] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:27] <TiG4> KurtKraut, Yeah, I did that... but again they assume that I know alot about IRCd and they use lots of "terms" that I don't understand
[11:27] <Smeggy> bbs
[11:27] <Smeggy> coffee
[11:32] <ompaul> sudo tumbleweed
[11:33] <thoreauputic> ompaul: both confirmed :-) ( with appropriate larting for thoreauputic who doesn't read before hitting enter) ;-)
[11:33] <ompaul> okay :-)
[11:33] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[11:34] <ompaul> with 800+ in the channel and no active questions I think we should have ... line dancing ...
[11:34] <Cosmo-san> oh, you want questions
[11:34] <achille> ciao tutti
[11:34] <ompaul> actually no :-)
[11:34] <ompaul> !it
[11:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:35] <Cosmo-san> I have one.  does using channel bonding require the switch on the other end to be set up? or can I do it just from my computer?
[11:35] <ompaul> Cosmo-san, however if they arrise I suppose we will actually tackle them
[11:35] <achille> i would like to get the connection with chiara
[11:36] <ompaul> Cosmo-san, as it is not a ubuntu specific question all I can do is say: http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/Projects/MP_Lite/dox_channel_bonding.html
[11:37] <Cosmo-san> aight
[11:39] <Flamekebab> does easyubuntu work under edgy?
[11:40] <treedreamer> hello,I want to confirm if i have encountered a bug
[11:40] <thoreauputic> treedreamer: we're waiting ...
[11:40] <treedreamer> almost every time i use the Nautilus-send to ,it crashed
[11:41] <ompaul> Flamekebab, you need to ask in #easyubuntu (it won't until edgy is released)
[11:41] <thoreauputic> treedreamer: have you searched bugs in launchpad?
[11:41] <treedreamer> i check the bugs ever reported but find none
[11:41] <ompaul> treedreamer, report it I will confirm it or do you want me to report it and you can confirm it?
[11:41] <thoreauputic> treedreamer: so submit one, i suppose
[11:42] <treedreamer> thoreauputic: oh,wait ,
[11:42] <ompaul> thoreauputic, can you guess what happened there?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ?
[11:42] <reaper> What is a good tutorial for installing the intranet on ubuntu? which package should i use?
[11:42] <treedreamer> thoreauputic:ok ,now i will to to launchpad
[11:42] <ompaul> I can confir it
[11:42] <ompaul> treedreamer, do you want me to report it, or are you comfortable reporting it?
[11:43] <treedreamer> thoreauputic:maybe my system's bug report tools is out of date
[11:43] <ompaul> treedreamer, I just tested and it is broken
[11:43] <ulinskie> anybody here  who has the ubuntu for non geeks book?
[11:43] <treedreamer> ompaul:let me do it ,it is easy ^_^
[11:44] <acth> Ciao a tutti
[11:44] <treedreamer> ompaul:no want to bother others
[11:44] <ompaul> ulinskie, there is the offical book and marcel garnes both of which are aimed at new users
[11:44] <ompaul> !it
[11:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:44] <daxxar> !no
[11:44] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[11:45] <reaper> What is a good tutorial for installing the intranet on ubuntu? which package should i use??
[11:45] <lupine_85> iproute2 :)
[11:46] <lupine_85> (already installed)
[11:46] <ulinskie> ompaul: d u have a pdf copy of it?
[11:46] <ompaul> reaper, click on system help system documentation - a lot of useful material there
[11:46] <ompaul> ulinskie, no, you can visit that system help system documentation link also
[11:46] <reaper> thanks ompaul
[11:47] <Flamekebab> intranet or internet?
[11:47] <reaper> intRAnet
[11:47] <reaper> haha wish i could run my own internet
[11:47] <reaper> hahah
[11:47] <Flamekebab> technically, you could
[11:48] <someone> Hi! Does anyone know why I receive message: "PCI: cannot allocate resource region 7" (then, same for 8 and 9), at startup?
[11:48] <lupine_85> reaper: just wget \* then host it on a server. There you go, one intarweb of your own :)
[11:48] <reaper> yeah i suppose so
[11:48] <susscorfa> i have the same problem someone only no solution
[11:48] <Flamekebab> lol
[11:49] <reaper> yeah what im gonna do is setup a pc with ubuntu for the new house.. cause it's got smart wiring and make an intranet that links to the server so u can grab files n stuff
[11:49] <reaper> should be good
[11:49] <quique_> hi
[11:49] <quique_> anybody can help me with open office?
[11:49] <Flamekebab> possibly
[11:49] <Zorlac> "Error 21" on reboot, trying to boot to a sata drive, any ideas?
[11:50] <reaper> umm sata shouldnt be an issue?
[11:50] <lupine_85> broken GRUB, presumably. Does it get as far as "loading linux..." ?
[11:50] <ChaosFan> no sata support in kernel?
[11:50] <Flamekebab> quique_, are you going to ask your question?
[11:50] <Zorlac> lupine_85: just errors on loading grub
[11:50] <frogzoo> ChaosFan: of course sata is supported
[11:50] <quique_> recently i have actualized ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06
[11:50] <Zorlac> Error 21 is missing hard drive
[11:51] <lupine_85> nothing to do with the kernel then
[11:51] <reaper> haha
[11:51] <Zorlac> so either ubuntu misconfigured grub
[11:51] <reaper> make sure its detecting in boot?
[11:51] <reaper> start from base 1
[11:51] <lupine_85> could be your BIOS misbehaving
[11:51] <Zorlac> eh?
[11:51] <frogzoo> quique_: just say what your problem is
[11:51] <quique_> and when i sstarted any program included in the office paquet
[11:51] <Zorlac> yes, but i assumed my bios would allow me to boot to sata
[11:51] <quique_> the text of the menus is full of strange symbols
[11:52] <quique_> and i don't know how can i change the type of font
[11:52] <Zorlac> I was trying to dual boot too =\
[11:52] <lupine_85> true. Is your device.map OK?
[11:52] <quique_> do you understand?
[11:52] <Zorlac> well, lupine, i assumed it would be. but i can go check.
[11:53] <quique_> if you want i could send you a screenshot
[11:53] <lupine_85> assuming it's not BIOS or hardware failure, that's the most likely source of the error... although I didn't think the installer was *that* stupid
[11:53] <frogzoo> quique_: yes I understand, but don't know what the problem is
[11:53] <lupine_85> quique: probably an issue with your fonts, or UTF8 support
[11:53] <lupine_85> is it english-language?
[11:53] <quique_> no, it's spanish
[11:53] <Zorlac> lupine_85: new hard drive, i'll just doubble tripple check the device map, my partitions ARE crazy as shit
[11:53] <lupine_85> asking in #ubuntu-es might find you someone who's had the problem before
[11:54] <ompaul> !language
[11:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:54] <frogzoo> lupine_85: as you seem to be able to run grub, get a grub prompt , then 'find /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[11:54] <Zorlac> =[
[11:54] <quique_> ok, thanks
[11:54] <quique_> i'll try it now
[11:54] <treedreamer> hello,i am back now .after a search on launchpad ,i found none had ever reported that bug ,but should i report it to ubuntu or gnome?
[11:54] <Zorlac> frogzoo: was that direct towards me?
[11:54] <lupine_85> frogzoo: ->Zorlac
[11:54] <frogzoo> lupine_85: you can set the grub params manually & you should be able to get the box back up
[11:55] <Zorlac> frogzoo: it was my problem, and it doesn't load grub
[11:55] <frogzoo> lupine_85: I'm so glad :D
[11:55] <Matty> hey has anyone tried the remote desktop where you can connect to an xp machine from the ubuntu one?
[11:55] <Zorlac> try VNC matty.
[11:55] <reaper> Matty i wanna do it the other way around
[11:55] <frogzoo> Zorlac: reboot & hit 'c' to get a grub command line
[11:55] <reaper> once i get this server going of course
[11:55] <Zorlac> frogzoo: when do i hit c?
[11:56] <frogzoo> Zorlac: then 'find /boot/grub/menu.lst'   to find which device grub finds your os on
[11:56] <Zorlac> frogzoo: can i just do that from the ubuntu disk?
[11:56] <frogzoo> Zorlac: when grub presents the menu of systems to load
[11:56] <Zorlac> frogzoo: it doesnt ever present the menu of systems to load
[11:56] <frogzoo> Zorlac: not sure
[11:56] <Zorlac> unless my eyes are slow
[11:56] <Zorlac> i'll reboot to make sure
[11:57] <Matty> ubuntu supports dual monitor setups i assume ?
[11:58] <Zorlac> I'd assume ubuntu would wipe your own butt if that were physically possible
[11:58] <ompaul> Matty, there is something to do that with - ximerema is not how it is spelt but it is not too far wrong
[11:58] <danimarquez_> hello
[11:58] <jacob_> Is there anyone that can help me install vlc on kubuntu?
[11:58] <danimarquez_> anyone can help me on how to configure an AverTv on ubuntu??
[11:58] <frogzoo> Matty: yep
[11:59] <lupine_85> !vlc
[11:59] <Zorlac> frogzoo: it never does get around to the device stuff
[11:59] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:59] <Matty> ok ill give ximerema a shot
[11:59] <ompaul> Zorlac, care to be nicer with your language?
[11:59] <Matty> chhers
[11:59] <danimarquez_> well, install AverTv, because it recognices it, but doesnt work
[11:59] <frogzoo> jacob_: 'sudo apt-get install vlc' & you're done
[11:59] <Zorlac> =[
[11:59] <jacob_> frogzoo.. i will get can`t find package vlc..
[11:59] <frogzoo> Zorlac: it figures that if that's a grub error, grub is running
[12:00] <frogzoo> !universe > jacob_
[12:00] <thoreauputic> !info vlc
[12:00] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[12:00] <jacob_> !info vlc
[12:00] <Dimensions> any one knows abt udev
[12:00] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[12:00] <Matty> !info udev
[12:00] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 079-0ubuntu34 (dapper), package size 233 kB, installed size 804 kB
[12:01] <danimarquez_> anyone knows on AverMedia or tv-capturers?
[12:01] <djohnny79> hi @ll
[12:01] <rsk> Dimensions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev
[12:01] <Matty> are you using a usb/firewire or pci capture box
[12:01] <wolfAlfa> hello, I'm trying to install drupal on ubuntu, but it keeps asking for php4, can't I install it with php5 ???
[12:01] <zezinhux> I am having a problem configuring my computer to access a wireless access point..
[12:01] <zezinhux> using WPA!
[12:01] <Dimensions> can some one tell me if udev is the same in debian systems as it is in ubuntu or its static ?
[12:01] <reaper> aww damn
[12:01] <reaper> make sure u set the default gateway?
[12:01] <zezinhux> anyone can help?
[12:02] <reaper> zezinhux i can try
[12:02] <lupine_85> zezinhux: does your card support wpa_supplicant ?
[12:02] <Matty> did it work without the security
[12:02] <FirstStrike> !wifi
[12:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:02] <Chandu> hi I want to know about gcj and gij , How can I give java runtime support for firefox and openoffice using these, May I know from where can I get more info
[12:02] <reaper> turn off all security
[12:02] <djohnny79> can anybody tell me how to install dyndns on ubuntu? didn t find any suitable package in  the synaptic
[12:02] <ompaul> Dimensions, this is down stream from debian
[12:02] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: try ez-ipupdate
[12:02] <thoreauputic> !ez-ipupdate
[12:02] <ubotu> ez-ipupdate: client for most dynamic DNS services. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.11b8-10 (dapper), package size 45 kB, installed size 260 kB
[12:03] <djohnny79> searhcing in the synaptic?
[12:03] <Matty> Chandu, download Automatix and that will install and configure jave 1.5 for firefox
[12:03] <reaper> im still waiting for driver support on my notebook..... im on a toshiba satellite P100.... NO AUDIO! OMFG!
[12:03] <reaper> haha
[12:03] <ompaul> Chandu, don't bother with that
[12:03] <ompaul> Chandu, it is available from the repos
[12:03] <zezinhux> yes it does
[12:03] <ompaul> !java
[12:03] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:04] <ompaul> Matty, you won't be here 24/7 for when it kills a box so please don't suggest it to anyone thanks
[12:04] <ompaul> !worksforme
[12:04] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:04] <danimarquez_> where can i look info on how to install the Avertv capturer on ubuntu, please?
[12:04] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: ez-ipupdate is in universe - have you added repositories in system- admin - software properties ?
[12:04] <Chandu> Matty:Ok
[12:04] <jacob_> Why don`t i have the vlc package on my Kubuntu ?
[12:04] <brendonjt> hey all  under the dapper live cd is there a password  for sudo?
[12:04] <djohnny79> thorapeutic: Where can i find this in the synaptics?
[12:05] <ompaul> Chandu, check this out:  java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:05] <djohnny79> erm sorry completely n00b to linux ^
[12:05] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: no, go to System -Admin - Software Properties and enable all repositories first
[12:05] <Healot> we once were noob to everything
[12:05] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[12:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:06] <djohnny79> Ah okay, mompl
[12:06] <mtholdenss> 9/11
[12:07] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: once you enable repos, you can find more or less everything in syanptic or add/remove programs
[12:07] <thoreauputic> *synaptic
[12:07] <Mayhem> what version of Gaim comes with Ubuntu on the live cd
[12:07] <djohnny79> :) mmmh i guess i checked ALL repositories...
[12:07] <Mayhem> there are some bugs and need to know if a new version will fix some issues
[12:08] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: BTW to complete nicks do for instance  thore <tab>
[12:08] <Raditz> 1.5 comes with ubuntu
[12:08] <Raditz> gaim
[12:08] <Mayhem> ok thankyou
[12:08] <Mayhem> any new versions ?
[12:08] <batara> anybody play mov file with vlc?
[12:08] <Raditz> not that i can see
[12:08] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: make sure you update/reload
[12:08] <Mayhem> !info gaim
[12:08] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[12:08] <Raditz> i've tried installing the 2.3 beta with no luck
[12:08] <brendonjt> hey all  under the dapper live cd is there a password  for sudo?
[12:08] <djohnny79> thoreauputic:  Ah TAB is something great ;) i think il like it :P
[12:08] <thoreauputic> brendonjt: no
[12:08] <Mayhem> cas when i login to MSN it just closes...odd
[12:09] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: :)
[12:09] <Raditz> i was getting that with the windows beta of gaim too
[12:09] <Raditz> but haven't on ubuntu yet
[12:09] <thoreauputic> brendonjt: just do  sudo <command> - it won't need a password on the live CD
[12:09] <Chandu> ompaul: I have done this with jre , but I want to try it our Free/Opensource GNU tool
[12:09] <Mayhem> when it prompts for a password just hit return
[12:10] <jacob_> !info vlc
[12:10] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
cool  thanks for that
[12:10] <thoreauputic> brendonjt: no worries :)
[12:11] <Zorlac> in grub's device.map, does it need to list all the hds?
[12:11] <Healot> total fresh install with kubuntu take more than 16MB download and 72MB install
[12:11] <mit> hi all
[12:11] <Zorlac> or can i just put hd0 as the only drive with bootable OS's
[12:11] <Healot> of VLC
[12:11] <zezinhux> !wifi
[12:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:11] <Mayhem> Who was the one that had problems with capturing video with ubuntu ?
[12:12] <mit> can anyone offer some direction or help to me(newbie)?
[12:12] <Mayhem> mit: sure
[12:12] <kendals> Hey guys- I can't get my usplash back to showing details despite selecting the original usplash for starting up.... :(
[12:12] <thoreauputic> !ask
[12:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:13] <wizzard1> vinsajten i fredags , paketen r bara i Hamburg
[12:13] <wizzard1> ops sorry wrong window
[12:13] <Raditz> ahahahaha
[12:13] <CheekyBoinc> ^^
[12:13] <Mayhem> ok well if that video capture dude is reading...try using Kino...Thats the only video capture and editing app on ubuntu that i know of right now
[12:13] <ompaul> Chandu, okay, so do it this way, add the universe repo and apt-cache search java | less and choose what package you want
[12:13] <Mayhem> !info kino
[12:13] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.80-1ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 1071 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[12:13] <Mayhem> !info windows
[12:13] <ubotu> Package windows does not exist in any distro I know
[12:13] <Mayhem> lol
[12:14] <reaper> AHHH!!! My ubuntu installation froze!! 50%
[12:14] <reaper> any reccommendations?
[12:14] <Raditz> take the disc out and lick it
[12:14] <Mayhem> how much ram you got
[12:14] <Raditz> then start it again
[12:14] <reaper> 512mb
[12:14] <Raditz> happened to me last night on one of my other systems too
[12:14] <Raditz> with 256mb ram
[12:14] <Mayhem> you doing it off the live cd
[12:14] <Raditz> and a 1.3ghz cpu
[12:14] <reaper> yeah live cd
[12:15] <reaper> 2.5Ghz cele, 10GB HDD, 512mb ram
[12:15] <Dimensions> ompaul: ya but is udev of debian same as in ubuntu i mean i am trying to use my phone for gprs modem connection but there is not ttyACM i have to create it each time which is due to new kernels ppl say its not the same in other distros and in them its static and always there ...
[12:15] <Mayhem> mine froze 10 times before it actully installed
[12:15] <Raditz> (reaper): try doing what i said
[12:15] <Raditz> i know it sounds weird but it works
[12:15] <reaper> ok Raditz hahahaah
[12:15] <reaper> no licking though
[12:15] <reaper> only cleaning
[12:15] <reaper> with toothpaste
[12:15] <Raditz> don't use that
[12:15] <Mayhem> or draino =)
[12:15] <Raditz> make it sticky
[12:15] <Raditz> gHg t 
[12:15] <reaper> haha
[12:15] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:15] <reaper> like it matters if its sticky. as long as it reads it
[12:15] <Raditz> just lick it then wipe it off on ur shirt
[12:15] <thoreauputic> !enter
[12:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:16] <reaper> Yeah so now my dvdrom drive wont open.. haha
[12:16] <Zorlac> Is the only ubuntu config file device.map ?
[12:16] <Zorlac> er, for grub.
[12:16] <Mayhem> get a paper clip and poke the emergency eject button
[12:16] <reaper> hahah
[12:16] <reaper> last time i did that it sorta went bad
[12:16] <mit> I would like to know why there are different reposities (such as Breezy and Dapper). What are the differences?
[12:17] <Zorlac> versions
[12:17] <frogzoo> Zorlac: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:17] <Mayhem> i have 300mhz and 192 mb ram on this beast....its my first timer linux test dummy :P
[12:17] <Zorlac> thanks frog
[12:17] <thoreauputic> mit: Breezy is the previous release, Dapper is the current release
[12:17] <reaper> yeah last time i ejected something, it was spinning at like 40x.... think of a tray opening with a spinning disc going at the wall and shattering
[12:17] <Mayhem> LOL
[12:17] <reaper> hahaha!
[12:17] <Mayhem> i am so going to try this...thankyou reaper !
[12:17] <reaper> oops!
[12:17] <frogzoo> Zorlac: 'sudo update-grub' after editing menu.lst
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Mayhem: you need the alternate CD for only 192 MB RAM
[12:18] <reaper> i didn't tell you that.... hahah for my protection
[12:18] <ompaul> Dimensions, every time you plug in it should create the point - udev is dynamic - try a different port that can help
[12:18] <mit> 'case I am using the previous release, is there any way to upgrade my system to the current release?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[12:18] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:18] <Mayhem> thorauputic: i dont care because I play to stick it on my 2.6 P4 later
[12:18] <mit> ok
[12:18] <reaper> how do i install from the command line?
[12:18] <Mayhem> yeh that would work for you reaper
[12:19] <reaper> how do i do it though?
[12:19] <mit> thanks.
[12:19] <Mayhem> reaper: google it
[12:19] <reaper> ok
[12:19] <aes52> is there a ubuntu + lvm howto?
[12:20] <Dimensions> ompaul:  every time i plug in the usb cable for gprs modem of phone ... it loads it to ohci_hcd it doesn't load it to any other port how can i make changes to load it to a port permanently ???
[12:20] <thoreauputic> !lvm
[12:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:20] <aes52> thanks ubotu
[12:20] <thoreauputic> aes52:  ubotu is a bot :)
[12:21] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[12:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:21] <Huh1> hey
[12:21] <thoreauputic> .. hmm .. all-knowing, I don't think so ...
[12:21] <ompaul> Dimensions, I don't know, I know this it is supposed to be dynamic
[12:21] <reaper> i can't find it Mayhem
[12:21] <Huh1> why is it that commands in cron.daily/hourly
[12:21] <Huh1> why is it that commands in cron.daily/hourly won't be executed?
[12:21] <Mayhem> reaper: i know it is possible but i have never tried it...i would like to know also
[12:22] <reaper> well help me search :D
[12:22] <coldboot> How do you do a search and replace on a "^M" character in vim? When you hit ctrl+m while typing a :%s/ line, it breaks the line and searches for the last thing you looked for...
[12:22] <Mayhem> !install
[12:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:22] <kryptoz> Hi all!
[12:22] <reaper> yay!
[12:22] <Mayhem> !install dos
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install dos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[12:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:22] <ompaul> Huh1, they should be have you added something and not given it an environment to work in - check your entry you may be missing an *
[12:22] <reaper> hahah
[12:22] <reaper> rofl@dos
[12:22] <djohnny79> thoreauputic: ah thx i guess i got it :)
[12:22] <Huh1> hm
[12:23] <Mayhem> bot abuse...umm no
[12:23] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: :)
[12:23] <ompaul> reaper, chill out this is a support channel not your typical chat channel
[12:23] <Huh1> sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com de.pool.ntp.org
[12:23] <Zorlac> (hd0,1) = the hd0 i defined in device.map, and 1 = partition 2?
[12:23] <Huh1> does that entry miss an * ?
[12:23] <smiley666> nope
[12:23] <smiley666> hey
[12:24] <Zorlac> zomg the ubuntu live cd locked up....
[12:24] <Huh1> ompaul: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com de.pool.ntp.org . does that entry lack an *
[12:24] <ompaul> Huh1, sorry I was thinking of crontab
[12:24] <smiley666> wat?
[12:24] <Huh1> it's saved in a file called /etc/cron.hourly/ntpdate
[12:24] <smiley666> hey im smiley
[12:24] <reaper> i think ill just wait for the ubuntu-server iso to finish downloading. hopefully ill have more luck installing with that
[12:25] <mit> how to check my ubuntu version?
[12:25] <smiley666> wat u talkin bout
[12:25] <Mayhem> reaper: do you have knoppix\
[12:25] <thoreauputic> mit:  lsb_release -a
[12:25] <ompaul> smiley666, this is a support channel for an operating system you can sit back and learn or leave
[12:25] <mit> ta
[12:25] <smiley666> oh thanks
[12:26] <magus_x> i need a program to run videos with subtitle support
[12:26] <thoreauputic> smiley666: your stay will be short if you don't ;-)
[12:26] <magus_x> anyone knows one?
[12:26] <smiley666> ok
[12:26] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:26] <Mayhem> reaper: install it through windows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[12:27] <ompaul> Huh1, are you using the gui ?
[12:27] <magus_x> i need a program to run videos with subtitle support
[12:27] <thoreauputic> magus_x: no need to repeat
[12:27] <thoreauputic> magus_x: if someone knows they will answer
[12:27] <Zorlac> VLC magus
[12:27] <thoreauputic> magus_x: also mplayer I think
[12:28] <djohnny79> thoreauputic:  So back again, noiw with a valid domain, how can i setup ez-ipupdate?
[12:28] <reaper> yeah i have knoppix
[12:28] <rsk> magus_x MPlayer
[12:28] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: first register with dyndns.org, then run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure ez-ipupdate
[12:28] <ompaul> reaper, go to #knoppix then - this is not the knoppix channel
[12:28] <Mayhem> reaper: you can install it through knoppix
[12:28] <djohnny79> thoreauputic: r u gonna be here later? just noticed :I GOTTA GO :D
[12:29] <reaper> im not talking about knoppix, i said i have a copy of it
[12:29] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: if you are behind a router it won't work, BTW
[12:29] <Mayhem> exactly geesh
[12:29] <djohnny79> arghs... could have told me before :D
[12:29] <Mayhem> because if you have a look at the link that the bot will give you here
[12:29] <Mayhem> !install
[12:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:29] <reaper> im not too worried, 15 mins and server edition will be done.. then you can help me :D
[12:29] <Zorlac> djohnny79: some routers have dyndns support built in
[12:29] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: I assumed you knew what you were doing :)
[12:29] <reaper> yeah i looked at the link
[12:29] <Mayhem> haha ok
[12:29] <Mayhem> g2g
[12:29] <djohnny79> *lol*
[12:29] <reaper> thanks man
[12:29] <reaper> seya
[12:30] <djohnny79> mmmmh i told i 'm NOOB :D
[12:30] <Assassin5> is there anyway to start off a text installed from an ubuntu CD
[12:30] <Zorlac> Anyone have any idea why ubuntu would lock up on me? often.
[12:30] <thoreauputic> djohnny79: as Zorlac says, a lot of routers have the feature built in
[12:30] <djohnny79> well don't matter, gonna be here later...
[12:30] <ompaul> !bootoptions > Zorlac
[12:30] <Zorlac> !bootoptions
[12:30] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[12:31] <Huh1> ompaul: gui? no I did that with a simple text editor, gedit
[12:31] <djohnny79> ok gtg cu l8er, sorry
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Zorlac: re: lockup - not enough information :)
[12:31] <Zorlac> thoreauputic: it stops functioning when i look away. screensaver maybe?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Zorlac: very likely, yes
[12:32] <reaper> Zorlac alot of older pc's can't handle the screensavers, i'd say its a likely possibility
[12:32] <Zorlac> The PC itself isnt that old, the video card is new enough
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Zorlac: gnome-screensver is.. *cough* .. unpredictable - I install xscreensver and disable gnome-screensaver here
[12:32] <reaper> try disabling it and see what happens?
[12:32] <Zorlac> Will do, after this memory test finishes...
[12:33] <Dimensions> hi does one know abt udev ? i am using ubuntu when i plug usb cable for my phone it loads it with ohci_hcd but not to any port then i have to create ttyACM0 manually how can i assign it permanently to be loaded when ever i plug cable ?
[12:33] <SirKillalot> is there any way to use the fat drivers for windows under linux?
[12:33] <ompaul> Zorlac, if you see !factoid> username it means the bot has been asked to tell a user something check your private messages
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Zorlac: gnome-screensaver breaks the suspend function on my laptop - xscreensaver works fine
[12:33] <Zorlac> ompaul: oh, i got a pm...
[12:33] <ompaul> Huh1, I will rephrase my question, are you using the gui?
[12:34] <kryptoz> i have a doubt with squid. have  a cache proxy Squid running. for the lan. need to access a virtual server via browser which is running on port 911. How do i allow access to this port for the proxu
[12:34] <Huh1> ompaul: which gui?
[12:34] <kryptoz> right now i am getting errors saying "access denied"
[12:34] <ompaul> Huh1, ubuntu or are you using a server?
[12:34] <Huh1> ompaul: ah ok, ubuntu, gnome
[12:34] <ompaul> Huh1, in other words have you a gui for a desktop
[12:34] <Huh1> ompaul: i thought you were maybe talking about some crontab gui or stuff
[12:35] <thoreauputic> SirKillalot: erm - Linux supports fat out of the box - what do you mean?
[12:35] <SirKillalot> thoreauputic, the vfat driver has problems with my ipod, therefore I would like to try the windows drivers if possible
[12:35] <ompaul> Huh1, okay so if you right click on the clock on the top right hand side and choose: time and date settings you can get ntp to work
[12:35] <thoreauputic> SirKillalot: ahh - well I don't know then, sorry
[12:36] <Huh1> ntp works if I run  it manually
[12:36] <ompaul> Huh1, and I am telling you how to set it up so it works all day every day  ;-)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> SirKillalot: a lot of people seem to be able to use the ipod though - I assume you googled ?
[12:36] <Huh1> ompaul:  ok where can I enable it? which option is it?
[12:37] <SirKillalot> thoreauputic, I google for months now ;)
[12:37] <SirKillalot> witout break or sleep
[12:37] <thoreauputic> Huh1: he just tod you :)
[12:37] <SirKillalot> +h
[12:37] <thoreauputic> *told
[12:37] <ompaul> Huh1, "arrrrrrr sound of hair being pulled out ;-)" .. right click on the clock and Choose "Time And Date SettingS"
[12:37] <Huh1> ompaul:  there is no option concerning ntp in that dialog
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Huh1: yes there is
[12:38] <ompaul> Huh1, I use it
[12:38] <Huh1> periodically synchronise with servers? won't work
[12:38] <ompaul> does
[12:38] <Huh1> no
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Huh1: yes it does
[12:38] <ompaul> it has to install npt
[12:38] <ompaul> ntpdate even
[12:38] <Huh1> ntp is installed
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Huh1: *cough* pay attention
[12:39] <ompaul> Huh1, it works and has done for a while, ohh about two years
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Huh1: ntpdate is not the same as the ntp daemon
[12:39] <Huh1> I know.
[12:39] <ompaul> Huh1, I am an addict for it
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Huh1: then why do you suppose this works for everyone except you?
[12:39] <Flannel> thoreauputic: doesn't work automatically for me, either
[12:40] <Huh1> But why would I try to make things complicated if the easy way would work? although I have chosen different servers as well as I enabled the periodical sync my clock won't be refreshed ever
[12:40] <Flannel> just, for the record ;)
[12:40] <livingdaylight> ompaul: do you do alot of om meditation?
[12:40] <Dimensions> how do i create a port permanently
[12:40] <Dimensions> ?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> Huh1: maybe your router does the ntp thing and you need to point it at the router?
[12:41] <Huh1> hmmm?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Huh1: some routers relay ntp
[12:41] <Huh1> well
[12:41] <ompaul> Huh1, try this, point it to pool.ntp.org rather than de
[12:41] <NET||abuse> hmm, this command isn't quite workin right for me, ip ro add default 192.168.20.9 via eth0
[12:41] <Huh1> thing is it does not even run the command.
[12:41] <ompaul> Huh1, it will find you remember the protocol dictates find the nearest one
[12:42] <NET||abuse> what am i doin wrong?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Huh1: if the daemon is running, ntpdate will fail ( socket in use)
[12:42] <Huh1> ompaul:  it's not even executing the command. cos then I would have offsets of exact hours... but not like hours and 43 minutes.
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Dimensions: what are you actually trying to do?
[12:44] <ompaul> Huh1,  what version of the kernel and of ubuntu are you running
[12:45] <batara> anybody play mov file with vlc?
[12:45] <Dimensions> thoreauputic:  i am using gprs modem of my phone when i plug the usb cable it loads with ohci_hcd but doesn't assign any port then i make ttyACM0 each time manually in /dev which is gone on reboot ... so i want to make it permanently be there ...
[12:45] <thoreauputic> Dimensions: I think you migth need to write a udev rule
[12:46] <thoreauputic> Dimensions: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[12:46] <ompaul> Dimensions, I suggest you take that to this mailing list: ubuntu-users which you can find on lists.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <thoreauputic> good adbice from ompaul ;)
[12:47] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you have better urls than I have :-(
[12:47] <thoreauputic> ompaul: heh
[12:47] <spike> hi there
[12:47] <thoreauputic> bad spelling from thoreauputic
[12:47] <spike> anybody running dapper + fluxbox + composite
[12:47] <thoreauputic> s/abdice/advice
[12:47] <spike> with latest of everything I cant get compmgr to work
[12:48] <thoreauputic> spike: two out of three ( no composite)
[12:48] <spike> :(
[12:48] <ompaul> spike, is composite like the xgl stuff?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> yes
[12:48] <ompaul> compiz?
[12:48] <Huh1> ompaul:  the newest.
[12:48] <spike> thoreauputic: I need to shade unused windows cause I got too many terms and it's hard to see the current one
[12:48] <_kalm> hey can anyone help me with ubuntu (dapper) wpa wifi problem? how can i get it to work?
[12:48] <ompaul> spike, #ubuntu-xgl is usually the best place for that one
[12:48] <spike> composite isnt xgl
[12:49] <CromagDK> uhm a quicky; how do i debug firefox ? it starts crashing when i open it now hehe
[12:49] <spike> compiz is a wm
[12:49] <Huh1> ompaul: thanks for your help, but I gotta go
[12:49] <Huh1> see you
[12:49] <thoreauputic> spike: I tab my terms in fluxbox...
[12:49] <thoreauputic> spike: but I know nothing about compiz, sorry
[12:50] <spike> thoreauputic: I do only for specific groups, and I run bordless most of the times, got a lots of terms and that saves space
[12:50] <spike> np
[12:50] <_kalm> Ubuntu Dapper wireless WPA problem?
[12:50] <tombo> How do I _reinstall_ selfcompiled packages?
[12:50] <ompaul> spike, sorry is that composite != compiz  (I'm getting confused, and as you know that is not too hard for me to do ;-))
[12:50] <spike> apparently nobody wont... #xorg refuses to help cause I run #nvidia, #nvidia knows almost nothing about composite, and xgl isnt the case
[12:50] <thoreauputic> tombo: did you use checkinstall ?
[12:50] <spike> ompaul: yes, one is a wm, one an xorg extension
[12:51] <orbin> CromagDK: could try runnig it from terminal
[12:51] <spike> ompaul: compiz is a wm using xgl
[12:51] <spike> ompaul: http://principe.homelinux.net/
[12:51] <spike> very good intro
[12:51] <ompaul> spike, there is one guy who loves getting his fingers dirty with lots of that, DBO find him in #ubuntu-xgl and other places like offtopic and here give him a few hours
[12:52] <CromagDK> orbin: just did yes, give me segmetation fault
[12:52] <thoreauputic> tombo: if you made a deb package, you just use the usual apt/dpkg tools
[12:52] <CromagDK> and cant browse for solving heheh
[12:52] <ompaul> spike, that is he likes using them all and working out how they work
[12:52] <spike> ompaul: will try...
[12:53] <CromagDK> !opera
[12:53] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:53] <Zorlac> I think i found an 'error' in ubuntus automaticly configuration of grub.
[12:54] <ompaul> Zorlac, check out launchpad.net and see if it is a bug there, report it if it is not
[12:55] <_kalm> !wpa
[12:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:55] <Zorlac> Well, i'm pretty sure that ubuntu automaticly assumed that my windows partiton was hd0,0, when it was hd3,0
[12:55] <_kalm> hm the only one able to answer my question was the bot 0_o keep it up ppl
[12:56] <Zorlac> Right on it kalm.
[12:56] <Schalken> am i the only one who can't login to msn with gaim anymore?
[12:56] <tombo>  thoreauputic: How do I _reinstall_ selfcompiled packages then? (;
[12:56] <Schalken> meebo works, but not gaim???
[12:57] <Zorlac> ompaul: i think the bot just does the googling for him
[12:57] <thoreauputic> tombo: if it's a deb package, sudo apt-get install --reinstall <name-of-your-package>
[12:58] <ompaul> Zorlac, I was being sarcastic - I edit factoids in it - one can only deal with so many questions before one gets tired
[12:58] <Zorlac> Yeah, i knew that >_>
[12:58] <thoreauputic> tombo: if it isn;t a package, and you used "make install" , you either look for a "make uninstall" option or you clean up the mess in /usr/local or wherever you put it
[12:58] <Dimensions> thoreauputic: where i can find rc.local ?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> Dimensions: in /etc/
[12:59] <Dimensions> thanks bro
[12:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:59] <Dimensions> :P
[12:59] <pennypacker> !bro
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <tombo> thoreauputic: apt-get install --reinstall <name-of-my-package>, takes the remote binaries not my local ones, doesn't it?
[01:01] <Zorlac> I'm still getting grub error 21 =[
[01:01] <Schalken> !why does meebo connect to msn but not gaim???
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why does meebo connect to msn but not gaim??? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <thoreauputic> tombo: depends how you versioned your package
[01:01] <Schalken> :(
[01:01] <Dimensions> awww Schalken poor buddy
[01:01] <Schalken> lol
[01:01] <Dimensions> **Grins**
[01:02] <Zorlac> Schalken: becuase gaim isn't a service, its a program?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> tombo: if the version is wrong, use the specific package names with apt or dpkg
[01:02] <Schalken> i mean giam doesn't connect to msn
[01:02] <Schalken> gaim*
[01:02] <Zorlac> gaim doesn't connect to msn becuase its borked.
[01:03] <Schalken> Zorlac: it was working yesterday
[01:03] <Zorlac> Oh, its just never worked for me
[01:03] <Dimensions> Schalken: i am using msn messenger via gaim ...
[01:03] <Dimensions> its working
[01:03] <Schalken> Dimensions: Gaim says the MSN server is down
[01:03] <Schalken> but it obviously isnt
[01:03] <calman> Mine MSN is also down
[01:04] <Schalken> calman: did it work before?
[01:04] <calman> yeah sure did... been down for the last 2-3 hours
[01:04] <ablyss> mines working
[01:04] <Zorlac> Note to all: Ubuntu does not install on some SATA drives.
[01:04] <Schalken> hmm
[01:04] <Schalken> Zorlac: worked on mine
[01:04] <Garsty> what program can I use to upload and browse files in ftp servers?
[01:04] <JosefK> Zorlac: tell your SATA controller to treat the drives as IDE
[01:04] <Schalken> Garsty: Gftp works
[01:04] <Zorlac> Schalken: with asus promise controlers
[01:05] <Zorlac> JosefK: and how may i do that
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Zorlac: tried booting the installer with acpi=off ?
[01:05] <Dimensions> guess what Schalken i just got connected to messenger with gaim
[01:05] <Schalken> Garsty: so does Nautilus ;)
[01:05] <Garsty> cool
[01:05] <Garsty> I'll try them
[01:05] <ablyss> Garsty, the built in ftp shell client works too
[01:05] <JosefK> Zorlac: try acpi=off first, usually it'll be in system BIOS or in the controller's BIOS
[01:05] <Zorlac> thoreauputic: i don't think that'll help
[01:05] <Schalken> Garsty: nautilus is the file browser
[01:05] <Garsty> ablyss how to open that builtin shell?
[01:05] <Garsty> how is it called?
[01:05] <tombo> thoreauputic: I have the binaries on the disk. How do I reinstall them without removing first, because this causes trouble. I think the versions are ok.
[01:05] <Zorlac> why would acpi work?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Zorlac: *cough* did you even try?
[01:06] <ablyss> Garsty, terminal
[01:06] <Schalken> Garsty: open your home folder or whatever, then do Ctrl+L and type ftp://blahblahblah
[01:06] <JosefK> Zorlac: I had a similar problem here, so I just set it to treat them as seperate IDE drives and do raid using LVM
[01:06] <Zorlac> mm, i'll try
[01:06] <ablyss> Schalken, i didn't think nautilus could upload files
[01:06] <thoreauputic> tombo: how can you reinstall without removing? i don't follow you
[01:06] <Schalken> ablyss: works here, uploading to a mate's server
[01:06] <ablyss> Schalken, neat :)
[01:07] <Schalken> ablyss: with nautilus
[01:07] <lupine_85> apt-get install --reinstall ?
[01:07] <Garsty> thanks
[01:07] <Zorlac> it seems my problem is documented already anyways: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8978
[01:07] <hs_125> ls
[01:08] <JosefK> Zorlac: if that's the problem, try using expert mode and install GRUB to the first partition instead of the MBR
[01:08] <JosefK> *first bootable
[01:08] <Schalken> can anyone give me a reason why Gaim would spontaneously/abruptly stop working with MSN?
[01:08] <Zorlac> JosefK: i think i'm going to take the noob route and just swap data around so that my only ata drive is bootable
[01:08] <Zorlac> thanks though
[01:08] <tombo> thoreauputic: apt-get install --reinstall works, meanwhile apt-get remove says "broken".
[01:10] <lupine_85> just stick /boot onto the ATA drive - that should do the trick
[01:10] <lupine_85> Schalken: upgrades to MSN
[01:10] <Schalken> lupine_85: that prevent gaim from connecting to it?
[01:10] <lupine_85> (e.g. the MSN->Windows Live one recently)
[01:10] <lupine_85> it did for me on an old version of Kopete
[01:11] <lupine_85> upgraded, and was back to normal
[01:11] <Schalken> lupine_85: how come it works for everyone else then?
[01:11] <lupine_85> might have just been coincidence though
[01:11] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, you are not alone
[01:11] <Schalken> hmm
[01:11] <calman> It was actually broken for me when I was on xp before
[01:12] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, if gaim supports connecting via http, then do it
[01:12] <lupine_85> anyone know if it's physically possible to RAID 20 hard drives together? ;)
[01:12] <rsk> lupine_85 yes
[01:12] <fourat> is there any tutorial on how to install Macromedia dreamweaver on Ubuntu ? or any other windows desktop applications ?
[01:12] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: trying...
[01:12] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, msn is being racist against australians
[01:12] <mtholdenss> howcome when i launch something from the panel say the recycle bin or firefox it make some weird transition but when i open it from desktop or app menu its fine?
[01:13] <rsk> fourat appdb.winehq.org
[01:13] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: whoo the HTTP did it!
[01:13] <Garsty> what can I do about error "/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2ud_core-2.6.so.0: version `WXUD_2.6.2' not found"? I'm trying to run a wxwidgets sample program in KDevelop. It seems to compile without errors, but can't run.
[01:13] <lupine_85> cor
[01:13] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, people can connect if they are using isp's who aren't tagged as australia or if they vpn into servers elsewhere
[01:13] <lupine_85> 1.6TB hard drive for 520
[01:14] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: why did it only just start today and why only me
[01:14] <lupine_85> Garsty: what version of wxwindows have you got installed in your computer?
[01:14] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, only australians sofar...
[01:14] <lupine_85> !wxwindows
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wxwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <tombo> thoreauputic: did something like dpkg -i ../exim4-daemon-light_4.52-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb and state something like "replace", I will see, thanks for helping.
[01:14] <Garsty> I believe it is 2.6.3
[01:14] <Garsty> at least wxconfig says that
[01:14] <mtholdenss> or is that normal?
[01:14] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: but i have aussie mates who are on no worries
[01:14] <lupine_85> there you go - you're compiling against 2.6.2
[01:14] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, tell them to relogon :P
[01:14] <lupine_85> so downgrade wxWindows or upgrade your header files
[01:14] <Garsty> how do I fix it?
[01:14] <lupine_85> ^ ^
[01:14] <J_P> hi all
[01:15] <Garsty> btw, it's wxWidgets now :P
[01:15] <lupine_85> ah, so it is :)
[01:15] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: lol nah i think ill just be ignorant for the moment
[01:16] <thoreauputic> " The msn blah blah are temporarily unavailable... " ( from .au)
[01:16] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, i'd really like to know why it's not working tho... but it honestly does appear to be only australians affected
[01:17] <thoreauputic> use jabber ;P
[01:17] <Schalken> mmm
[01:17] <Schalken> Jabber rocks
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> but i don't know anyone on jabber :(
[01:17] <DarkMageZ> everyone's on msn
[01:17] <thoreauputic> I'm on jabber!
[01:17] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: use a transport
[01:17] <thoreauputic> :D
[01:18] <DarkMageZ> i think i'll just hack around the problem using http
[01:18] <thoreauputic>  >> thoreauputic@jabber.org ;-)
[01:18] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: ditto
[01:18] <thoreauputic> not that I'm on very often...
[01:18] <Schalken> thoreauputic: yay a jabber user
[01:19] <thoreauputic> added
[01:19] <seth1248> I keep getting the ubuntu brown screen of death. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but in the file /var/log/gdm/:0.log I find "
[01:19] <seth1248> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
[01:19] <seth1248>  Error:            Can't find file "ledcaps" for compat include
[01:19] <seth1248>                    Exiting
[01:19] <seth1248>                    Abandoning compatibility map "basic"
[01:19] <seth1248>                    Abandoning compatibility map "complete"
[01:19] <seth1248>                    Abandoning compatibility map "default"
[01:19] <seth1248> "
[01:20] <DarkMageZ> thoreauputic Schalken what parts of australia?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> seth1248: don't paste
[01:20] <seth1248> sorry
[01:20] <thoreauputic> DarkMageZ: east coast
[01:20] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: malbourne
[01:20] <DarkMageZ> thoreauputic Schalken nsw, nowra :O
[01:21] <seth1248> Could this error have anything to do with why X won't start? And, how can I fix this ?
[01:21] <Adam> is anyone else lagging like crazy?  "Ping reply from calvino.freenode.net: 6.52 second(s)"
[01:21] <thoreauputic> DarkMageZ: Wollongong - have you joined SCLUG ?
[01:21] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, join us in #ubuntu-offtopic =D
[01:21] <thoreauputic> Adam: 0.4 here
[01:22] <Adam> thoreauputic: any reason I should be lagging so much in Ubuntu but not in Windows?
[01:22] <Adam> I just booted to my Ubuntu partition and suddenly I get this stupefying lag.
[01:23] <Adam> bah! "Ping reply from calvino.freenode.net: 31.33 second(s)"
[01:23] <Adam> I'm lagging in other servers as well.
[01:24] <thoreauputic> Adam: no idea, sorry
[01:25] <Adam> thoreauputic, thanks anyway
[01:25] <aes52> guys I want to install ubuntu + lvm on a physical partition, should I just use the livecd, make the logical volume(s) i want, then run the installer?
[01:26] <sladen> adam: most likely something is download and clogging up your internet connection
[01:26] <tortho> SonyEricsson P990 won't connect to dapper, need help, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23045
[01:26] <sladen> adam: eg. the daily automatic updates doing a check, or Bittorrent running
[01:27] <xipietotec> does anyone know a program for ubuntu that will read the contents of an .exe the way winrar will show them as a package?
[01:27] <seth1248> Can anyone tell me why I get the error: "Can't find file "ledcaps" for compat include" in /var/log/gdm/:0.log?
[01:27] <xipietotec> I'm trying to get Testgen installed as a damn plugin, but the installer is windowz based.
[01:28] <xipietotec> damn math class software
[01:28] <xipietotec> no linux or mac support.
[01:30] <Schalken> xipietotec: hahaha i feel ur pain
[01:31] <tortho> Got a IO error on 2GB memory card.. how can i get more info... it is working, and no faults found under windows XP
[01:31] <xipietotec> Fuckers, first they package my textbooks with "access code" crap for software that the teacher REQUIRES, and then it only works on windows.
[01:32] <xipietotec> Supposedly this plugin is firefox compatible...but only if I can get the damn .exe file open and extract the files manually
[01:33] <erUSUL> !language
[01:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:34] <xipietotec> I wasn't aware that "damn" (an admonishment) was considered "harsh language".
[01:34] <D347h> you also said "Fuckers"
[01:34] <Schalken> xipietotec: you know what you said.
[01:35] <xipietotec> Oh, so I did
[01:35] <xipietotec> nevermind, I appologize
[01:35] <xipietotec> ^ looked up and read further
[01:35] <xipietotec> sorry, just frustrated.
[01:35] <D347h> you can use wine or vmware server
[01:36] <xipietotec> Wine doesn't load it correctly
[01:36] <Schalken> xipietotec: we are all angry at microsoft, its okay.
[01:36] <aes52> do any of you have experience with lvm + ubuntu?
[01:36] <D347h> yesterday i installed vmware and then installed xp on it
[01:36] <D347h> :)
[01:36] <tortho> try qemu as well if you like to run xp..
[01:36] <D347h> it went through very smoooth
[01:37] <xipietotec> Actually I'm just angry at my school. Look, it's not an online class, if your software is only compatible with one OS, it should be optional
[01:37] <Schalken> D347h: vmware isnt appropriate fro games though is it?
[01:37] <Schalken> for*
[01:37] <D347h> well im quite a noob in linux
[01:38] <D347h> and i was scared that xp will be very slow in vmware
[01:38] <triplc> hello everybody
[01:38] <D347h> but it is quite usable
[01:38] <Schalken> D347h: does vmware require a seperate partition to isntall Windows on, or does it store windows in the Ubuntu partition?
[01:38] <D347h> no
[01:38] <tortho> have a look on this one: http://maconstuff.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-to-run-windows-xp-under-ubuntu.html
[01:39] <D347h> yes it stores windows in ubuntu partition
[01:39] <D347h> lemme give you a very fine howto
[01:39] <D347h> to install vmware server
[01:39] <D347h> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[01:39] <Schalken> the problem is all I use windows for is games so if it doesnt deliver enough power for games its no good to me
[01:40] <triplc> please help me, i've break my system: i include both dapper and edgy to the /etc/apt/sources.list, then set the priority of edgy to 100, dapper to 900, then run : "apt-get -t edgy install bluefish"... then now the X server failed to started. When i run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (in hope it can fix the issue) it say that the local setting are wrong. Running "dpkg-reconfigure locales" does not work either.
[01:41] <xipietotec> hrmm...thanks tortho, I'm going to try that
[01:41] <triplc> (my system is intel dual core, i use amd64 image)
[01:41] <triplc> (amd64 arch)
[01:42] <tortho> xipietotec: i did run it with edgy under dapper :-) Just installed a dapper under qemu, and edites sources.... and updated :-) with the module as described on the qemu page it is "quite fast"
[01:43] <xipietotec> tortho: Actually I need an install of XP so I can use this stupid proprietary math program
[01:43] <D347h> Schalken: you can use Cedega
[01:43] <D347h> but it is not free :(
[01:43] <Schalken> D347h: but that only sometimes works and still doesn't give me all the power i need
[01:44] <tortho> xipietotec: make the image 4.3 gb so you can copy/backup it to a dvd..... just a hint..
[01:44] <Schalken> triplc: the two times I broke my system by getting packages from edgy I had to reinstall :O. The lesson i learnt was always install development versions in a seperate partition.
[01:45] <D347h> Then try to setup vmware
[01:46] <tortho> triplc:  as you can see int my last comments, i did run edgy under dapperr with qemu.. then you don't breake..
[01:46] <Schalken> D347h: was that to me?
[01:46] <triplc> schalken: uh oh!!!! i want the new feature of bluefish, which only have in the latest version
[01:46] <D347h> yeah
[01:46] <Schalken> triplc: best try to get a dapper package then.
[01:47] <Schalken> D347h: will that be faster than Cedega?
[01:47] <D347h> i dont know but you can try
[01:47] <triplc> schalken: i hope that the problem is not serious.. i think locales is something can be fixed. it's only that i only know dpkg-reconfigure.... i hope that you or someone can provide another way to make it fix.
[01:47] <xipietotec> tortho: Nah, I really only need XP on this computer for exactly 1 thing. So I want the smallest install possible. I'm going to use a slipstreamer to remove as much as possible from it
[01:47] <Schalken> D347h: whats the difference between that a qemu?
[01:48] <tortho> someone with good filesystem knowledge here now? io error on a 2gb memory card connected through usb needs some help :-) works under winxp..
[01:48] <D347h> both are pretty mush same thing
[01:48] <Schalken> triplc: sorry, but my solution is always 'backup, whipe, install', always has been with Windows ;)
[01:48] <D347h> but it will be easier to install vmware
[01:49] <Schalken> D347h: does either give more power than the other?
[01:49] <bouter> hi
[01:49] <Schalken> hello
[01:49] <D347h> Schalken:i have only tried vmware so i dont know
[01:50] <bouter> I seem to have a little problem with my wireless card
[01:50] <tortho> a quick google gives this abou VM and other... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines
[01:50] <seth1248> Can anyone help me? I get the error: "Can't find file "ledcaps" for compat include" in /var/log/gdm/:0.log .
[01:50] <devilz> how i enable Direct Rendering
[01:50] <devilz> ?
[01:51] <bvanaerde> devilz: that depends on your graphics card
[01:51] <devilz> ati
[01:51] <devilz> 9550
[01:51] <bvanaerde> if the drivers are installed properly, and your card supports direct rendering, it should be enabled
[01:52] <bouter> I have an MSI notebook    my wireless card (onboard) is an Intel PRO2200BG, I have wifiradar installed and I can see all the wireless networks available
[01:52] <bouter> but I can' t seem to connect to then
[01:52] <bouter> tehem
[01:52] <bouter> I also have the network  icon near my clock
[01:53] <bouter> and normally I can choose which netork acitivity I wan' t to see
[01:53] <bvanaerde> devilz: what does it say when you type "fglrxinfo" in the terminal? (without the quotes)
[01:53] <bouter> but the eth1 interface is not available
[01:53] <hs_125> bouter,  r u using dhcp?....or any wep password?
[01:54] <bouter> dhcp yes   wep  yes    and the key is correct
[01:54] <aes52> Does UBUNTU installer support LVM devices?
[01:54] <firenx> can anyone recommend a good bittorrent client?
[01:54] <firenx> anything like utorrent for win32? heh
[01:54] <aes52> ktorrent firenx?
[01:54] <hs_125> bouter : does it obtained ip adress?
[01:54] <xipietotec> why the hell doesn't wlassistant have a hexidecimal option?
[01:54] <bouter> no I can' t seem to obtain an address
[01:54] <firenx> oh yeah ktorrent i remember trying that a while back.. i'll have a look at it thanks
[01:55] <aes52> np
[01:55] <xipietotec> I have a ton of problems with dhcp in any event
[01:55] <bouter> when I click connect   the programs goes      accuiring IP.... Done
[01:55] <aes52> it's a kde app btw Filbert
[01:55] <aes52> firenx even
[01:55] <xipietotec> it works sometimes...and then doesn't
[01:55] <bouter> but it just ain' t working
[01:55] <hs_125> bouter, ifconfig says what/
[01:55] <xipietotec> I usually have to ifdown ifup a few times to connect to unpassworded wifi connections
[01:56] <firenx> yeah i know its a kde app.. nothin for gtk tho eh
[01:56] <xipietotec> wlassistant won't log into my own wifi network at home at all. (128bit wep, hex, and mac address)
[01:56] <bouter> eth1  is not pressent in ifconfig
[01:56] <D347h> Schalken: this guys have posted his experience on his blog about Qemu vs Vmware and he says that vmware is little bit faster :- http://blog-old.vojta.name/archives/cat_2.html
[01:56] <bouter> it doesnt even show in ifconfig      but yet I can see all the wireless networks...
[01:56] <Schalken> D347h: thanks man
[01:57] <D347h>  :)
[01:57] <hs_125> r u using eth1 for wireless?...then do one thing go to vi /etc/network/interface and edit it
[01:57] <bouter> sometimes when he wants to   the eth1 interface is available
[01:57] <bouter> sometimes I can connect to the network   but no networkactivity
[01:58] <devilz> bvanaerde, still here?
[01:58] <bouter> and most of the time it' s not available at all
[01:58] <bvanaerde> devilz: yup
[01:58] <bvanaerde> was waiting for your answer
[01:58] <devilz> bvanaerde, its says something about mesa
[01:58] <devilz> opengl
[01:58] <bvanaerde> oh ok
[01:58] <firenx> oh one more question, how can i show the link to my home folder and to computer on the desktop? is that in gconf?
[01:58] <xipietotec> bouter: Here's something that happens to me, I have to ifconfig wlan0, which after it configures becomes eth1.
[01:58] <bvanaerde> when you see mesa, that means fglrx isn't configured right
[01:58] <hs_125> bouter, is it external card o builtin card?
[01:58] <bvanaerde> or not installed at all
[01:59] <bouter> builtin card
[01:59] <devilz> bvanaerde, can you help me fix that
[01:59] <xipietotec> and then I ifdown ifup eth1
[01:59] <bouter> msi s260 is my notbook
[01:59] <bvanaerde> wait up
[01:59] <hs_125> bouter,  card is of which made?
[01:59] <devilz> ok
[01:59] <xipietotec> if if dhcp doesn't auto connect I iwlist eth1.
[01:59] <xipietotec> then try again with wlassistant or the default network manager
[02:00] <xipietotec> nm-gnome doesn't work at all really
[02:00] <bvanaerde> devilz: you should follow this guide (method 1)
[02:00] <bvanaerde> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[02:00] <bvanaerde> it worked for me, I've got an ati 9700
[02:00] <bouter> card is     intell pro 2200bg
[02:00] <thoreauputic> nm-applet only works if you disable interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces ( except for lo)
[02:01] <FloK> hi. Where do i set the locale settings pls?
[02:01] <bouter> if I do ifconfig now       the eth1  shows
[02:03] <bouter> I 'm thinking it' s a bug
[02:03] <devilz> bvanaerde, check this
[02:03] <devilz> desktop:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial
[02:03] <devilz> Found fglrx primary device section
[02:03] <devilz> Nothing to do, terminating.
[02:04] <bvanaerde> did you enable the "restricted" repository in your sources list?
[02:05] <bvanaerde> maybe you already did this command...
[02:05] <bvanaerde> then it's normal you're seeing this message
[02:06] <bvanaerde> just do the rest, reboot, and see if you don't get "mesa" anymore with fglrxinfo
[02:06] <devilz> bvanaerde, i did enable
[02:06] <bvanaerde> k
[02:06] <devilz> i will go reboot
[02:06] <devilz> brb
[02:06] <lupine_85> bouter: if the module(driver) is working, you'll get your interface (eth1) showing. do you have an assigned IP address?
[02:11] <devilz> bvanaerde, still mesa
[02:11] <devilz> :(
[02:11] <bvanaerde> hmm that's weird
[02:12] <bouter> linux and wireless... always trouble
[02:12] <bvanaerde> check the xorg.conf and see if every "ati" is replaced by "fglrx" in the Device section
[02:13] <devilz> Driver      "ati"
[02:13] <devilz> still ati
[02:13] <devilz> ehh
[02:14] <devilz> no i have 2 sections
[02:14] <devilz> of device
[02:14] <devilz> in one its ati and other its fglrx
[02:16] <_kalm> can anyone point a "HowTo" for a wireless (WPA encryption) for Ubuntu? please
[02:16] <bvanaerde> devilz: replace them both to ati
[02:16] <bvanaerde> umm no
[02:16] <bvanaerde> fglrx, sorry
[02:16] <bvanaerde> :)
[02:16] <devilz> k
[02:16] <_kalm> !wpa
[02:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:16] <_kalm> !wireless
[02:17] <devilz> bvanaerde, done, now i reboot?
[02:17] <bvanaerde> yea
[02:17] <devilz> ok. brb
[02:18] <D347h> Hey guys does anyone here have a link to some good howto for garnome
[02:19] <_kalm> wow these ubuntu irc servers have really gone for worse... last time i used this i got help immediately but now everyone ignores 0_o
[02:19] <zappe> D347h, http://www.google.se/search?q=howto++garnome
[02:19] <_kalm> is ubuntu's user network falling?
[02:20] <zappe> _kalm, what's your problem?
[02:20] <_kalm> nothing.. the BOT helped me
[02:20] <lupine_85> lol
[02:20] <lupine_85> !volunteers
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <bvanaerde> :)
[02:20] <lupine_85> bah
[02:21] <zappe> why do you complain then?
[02:21] <greg_zx> wow shit
[02:21] <greg_zx> and i was wondering if ubuntu had an irc channel
[02:21] <D347h> zappe: thanks zappe but results are for debian and other OS's  and im really scared cuz last time i tried to compile something (kernel) i totally screwed up my system
[02:21] <greg_zx> this place is huge!
[02:21] <lupine_85> lol
[02:22] <_kalm> because no one answered? im having trouble setting up my Ubuntu for my Wireless network ( with WPA encryption )
[02:22] <moynihan> anyone here running ubuntu serverside?
[02:22] <kryptoz> _kalm, i also had the same trouble
[02:22] <Ivanowitch> Hi. Are there anyone who know anything about Cisco VPN?
[02:22] <moynihan> I'm havin an issue with my server seeing the outside world
[02:23] <thoreauputic> _kalm: uually when no-one answers it's either because 1) your question lacked detail or precision or 2) no-one currently here knows
[02:23] <lupine_85> _kalm: we don't get paid for this you know :)
[02:23] <moynihan> pinging fine from outside and the /etc/network/interface is all fine
[02:23] <zappe> D347h, you may wanna ask on garnome's irc.. Server: irc.gnome.org Channel: #garnome
[02:23] <lupine_85> moyniham: do you have a default route set?
[02:24] <D347h> zappe:thanks man :)
[02:24] <moynihan> I thought interface handled that on linux?
[02:24] <lupine_85> sometimes it does
[02:24] <_kalm> but the last time i tried to get it up and running ( i used wep encryption tho its wpa ) and it started hanging
[02:24] <zappe> D347h, np.. or check their site http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/
[02:24] <lupine_85> sometimes it doesn't
[02:24] <moynihan> so i need amn etc/defaultrouter like on solaris?
[02:24] <lupine_85> ip route show will tell you
[02:25] <lupine_85> moyniham: no. the gateway line in /etc/network/interfaces does it
[02:25] <lupine_85> e.g. iface rausb0 inet static \10\13 gateway 81.187.208.246 (for me)
[02:25] <moynihan> right you are
[02:25] <_kalm> if my wireless adapter (Belkin Wireless G+ MIMO PCMCIA) happened to be connected my whole system "crashed" or "froze"
[02:25] <thoreauputic> _kalm: 1) Some drivers don't support wpa 2) the wiki info on wireless is pretty good
[02:25] <moynihan> that is giving me a different gateway than in interface
[02:26] <_kalm> ah, ill try it YET AGAIN... maybe different "howtos" work better
[02:26] <kryptoz> I used my live cd and it detected the network cards but doesn't get an ip
[02:26] <lupine_85> ip route del default (if it's there); ip route add default via blah dev blah will do the trick tehn :)
[02:26] <kryptoz> oh well the wireless connection tried to get the ip from dhcp and it never stops
[02:27] <thoreauputic> don't you just love it when people complain about volunteer support?
[02:27] <lupine_85> indeed :)
[02:27] <lupine_85> ah
[02:27] <lupine_85> !patience
[02:27] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:27] <lupine_85> phwoar
[02:27] <thoreauputic> lupine_85: too late - he left
[02:27] <lupine_85> never mind
[02:27] <Cwiiis> Hi - does anyone know of any repository I could use in Ubuntu dapper that has a later/latest version of Ekiga?
[02:27] <thoreauputic> *shrug*
[02:28] <devilz> bvanaerde, still not working
[02:29] <lupine_85> Cwiiis: 2.0 is the latest version AFAICT
[02:29] <lupine_85> !ekiga
[02:29] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Cwiiis: I guess you could roll your own, if that's an option - I don't think backports has a later version - there may be 3rd party repos I don't know about
[02:29] <lupine_85> suppose you could d/l and compile the latest CVS build...
[02:29] <thoreauputic> right
[02:29] <Cwiiis> lupine_85: I'm having problems and being told to upgrade to 2.0.3 in #ekiga on GimpNet
[02:29] <D347h> zappe:thanks again
[02:30] <zappe> np
[02:30] <Cwiiis> I'd build the edgy debs, but dpkg has changed so much, last time I tried that it was nigh-on impossible
[02:30] <SVisor> OT: Anyone know whats wrong with MSN. Gaim is not able to connect.
[02:30] <lupine_85> Cwiis: http://snapshots.seconix.com/index.php maybe?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> SVisor: in australia, i get a "tempoerarily unavailable" message
[02:30] <bvanaerde> devilz: did you try other tutorials before asking here?
[02:30] <moynihan> hmm
[02:30] <lupine_85> (linked to from the ekiga site - no idea whether it works or not)
[02:31] <Cwiiis> lupine_85: Oh neat, thanks :) I managed to miss that somehow...
[02:31] <thoreauputic> SVisor: some people are saying it's an .au problem only
[02:31] <devilz> bvanaerde, yes
[02:31] <devilz> i tried everything thats why i came here
[02:31] <SVisor> thoreauputic: Well then its nothing on my side. As I get the same error from .se
[02:31] <moynihan> changed over the gateway with ip route but that doesnt seem to have helped
[02:31] <thoreauputic> SVisor: ah, OK then it's not just .au ...
[02:32] <lupine_85> sudo ip route? :)
[02:32] <bvanaerde> devilz: I found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239229&page=3
[02:32] <thoreauputic> SVisor: maybe they changed the protocol yet again
[02:32] <bvanaerde> scroll down to Dropknee's reply with "ok problem solved..."
[02:32] <squarepusher> why does my motd print twice??
[02:32] <thoreauputic> SVisor: this is why I never rely on MSN
[02:32] <bvanaerde> he seems to have the same problem
[02:33] <squarepusher> only when I ssh, it seems, my /etc/motd prints out twice...
[02:33] <moynihan> i'm consoled in as root
[02:33] <lupine_85> ah
[02:33] <thoreauputic> squarepusher: on your Ubuntu box? Are you logging in remotely? do you have an /etc/issue.net ?
[02:33] <squarepusher> cat /etc/issue.net
[02:33] <thoreauputic> squarepusher: ah - check issue.net
[02:33] <lupine_85> hmm. I can't really think of anything else it could be, if you can contact it from the outside world
[02:33] <SVisor> thoreauputic: Would not surprise me if they have changed the protocol. But everybody I know uses MSN, so I have no real options (and they refuse to use ICQ).
[02:33] <lupine_85> is it just a standard setup?
[02:33] <squarepusher> thoreauputic: it says "Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS"
[02:33] <moynihan> yea
[02:33] <moynihan> bit odd
[02:33] <thoreauputic> squarepusher: same here
[02:34] <thoreauputic> SVisor: right, i know the problem...
[02:34] <devilz> bvanaerde, but they are getting other errors in dmesg|grep fglrx
[02:34] <moynihan> think i'm gonna have to wait for physical access on this one, it'd a fucking nightmare even doin simple things like installing openssh and resolving dependencies manually
[02:34] <squarepusher> thoreauputic: I am logging in over ssh, and the contents of /etc/motd are being printed twice in a row
[02:34] <thoreauputic> !language
[02:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:34] <bvanaerde> do you get any errors?
[02:34] <moynihan> sorry
[02:35] <devilz> [17179598.664000]  fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
[02:35] <devilz> [17179598.664000]  [fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 431 MBytes.
[02:35] <devilz> [17179598.664000]  [fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 8.25.18 [May 18 2006]  on minor 0
[02:35] <devilz> [17179606.604000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4281 using kernel context 0
[02:35] <devilz> i get this
[02:35] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[02:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:35] <squarepusher> !paste
[02:35] <devilz> sorry..
[02:35] <squarepusher> devilz: try a pastebin you flooder
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> hey
[02:36] <bvanaerde> :)
[02:36] <lupine_85> j00 f100dz0rz!!!111!!! ;)
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> by any chance
[02:36] <thoreauputic> devilz: I'll remove the gag in aminute. Don't do it agagin
[02:36] <lupine_85> ooh, a ban :(
[02:36] <DJAdmiral> is msn working for anyone?
[02:36] <chf> yes
[02:36] <bvanaerde> msn seems to be down for some
[02:36] <bvanaerde> not here though
[02:36] <Dimensions> Is it possible to make a script which disconnects wvdial
[02:36] <chf> under option use "http method"
[02:37] <devilz> bvanaerde, so i guess everything works ok but its not :(
[02:37] <lupine_85> Dimensions: poff ?
[02:37] <Dimensions> lupine_85: poff ist not for wvdial ... ?
[02:37] <Hyakutaro> hello I really need some help, as X fails to start... I am trying to edit a file in vim since gedit doesn't work here
[02:37] <Dimensions> lupine_85: noramlly we disconnect wvdial with ctr+c ...
[02:37] <bvanaerde> do you still see mesa with fglrxinfo?
[02:38] <devilz> bvanaerde, yes
[02:38] <Hyakutaro> I just need to delete one line and my problem will be fixed, however I don't know how to save the file in vim
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Hyakutaro:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:38] <squarepusher> Hyakutaro: press : + wq
[02:38] <Hyakutaro> no it's not that
[02:38] <devilz> bvanaerde, do i need to recompile kernel?
[02:38] <bouter> who here has exerience with MSI and ubuntu?
[02:38] <squarepusher> Hyakutaro:  escape, colon, wq <enter>
[02:38] <squarepusher> in normal mode dd deletes a line
[02:38] <Hyakutaro> squarepusher: I go to command lin in vim then wq?
[02:38] <lupine_85> ah
[02:38] <Hyakutaro> : to go to enter command
[02:38] <Hyakutaro> then wq?
[02:39] <bvanaerde> devilz: not sure if that will help
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Hyakutaro: nano is easier if you don't know vim
[02:39] <Hyakutaro> exit
[02:39] <bouter> msi ...anyone?
[02:39] <squarepusher> Hyakutaro: after you make the change (in insert mode or otherwise) do ESC+:+wq+<enter>
[02:39] <SVisor> Hyakutaro: to the mode where VIM beeps but does not type and then :wq
[02:39] <lupine_85> I vaguely remember using wvdial at some point, and pon/poff to control the connection
[02:39] <squarepusher> SVisor: also known as normal mode
[02:39] <eds0n> hey, is there any way to install xfsprogs 2.8 through a repo?
[02:40] <spinz8r> what's the difference in using "sudo gedit xxxx" and "sudo nano xxx"? thanks
[02:40] <Dimensions> ahhan... how can i setup poff for it lupine_85?
[02:40] <eds0n> I need it to fix my hd, and the older versions can't due to a bug
[02:40] <devilz> bvanaerde, here its says Note: You have to recompile the kernel module after each kernel update!
[02:40] <SVisor> spinz8r: Diff editor
[02:40] <thoreauputic> spinz8r: gedit is an X app ( graphical)
[02:40] <bvanaerde> but did you do a kernel update
[02:40] <lupine_85> no idea
[02:40] <Dimensions> :'(
[02:40] <spinz8r> SVisor: does  it serve same function?
[02:40] <bvanaerde> here's a thread with people that have the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&page=2
[02:40] <squarepusher> spinz8r: gedit and nano are both text editors. gedit is graphical, nano is console-based.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> spinz8r: nano is a terminal editor - no graphical interface required
[02:41] <squarepusher> spinz8r: ignore what SVisor said
[02:41] <SVisor> spinz8r: YEs.. but gedit need a working X
[02:41] <squarepusher> spinz8r: "Diff editor" has nothing to do with your question.
[02:41] <spinz8r> I see. thanks folks
[02:41] <fourat> how to execute msi files with wine ?
[02:41] <squarepusher> fourat: rm -Rf *.mis
[02:41] <lupine_85> fourat: wine might be able to do it
[02:41] <squarepusher> fourat: rm -Rf *.msi
[02:41] <lupine_85> erm, no
[02:42] <lupine_85> behave :)
[02:42] <thoreauputic> spinz8r: nano ( or vim) are useful especially when X isn't working or when you don't need it ( servers, ssh etc)
[02:42] <lupine_85> failing wine, Cedega definitely does
[02:42] <bouter> msi ....  how about the msi notebooks    anyone with exp?
[02:42] <jokester> hey ppl. I'm using dapper drake and have a bizarre problem: all apps start really slowly. It seems to be related to the internet connection. No internet connection slow/ with internet connection everything is alright. Any ideas what I did wrong ?
[02:42] <rukus> dns.
[02:43] <spinz8r> thoreauputic: thanks
[02:43] <thoreauputic> squarepusher: don't give commands like that here even as a joke
[02:43] <lupine_85> joe++
[02:43] <lupine_85> and besides, it's r not R
[02:43] <jokester> I assumed it must be the dns but how can I correct it ?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> squarepusher: you're lucky I didn't just kick you out, to be honest
[02:43] <lupine_85> jokester: take out the dns nameservers while you're not on the 'net?
[02:43] <jokester> I have none installed. is gnome looking for some dns names before running apps ?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> jokester: do you have the lo interface in /etc/network/interfaces ? It should point to 127.0.0.1
[02:46] <xopher> anyone on amd64 here?
[02:46] <jokester> i made no modifs to interfaces
[02:47] <thoreauputic> jokester: check to see if you have that lo in there
[02:47] <jokester> it might be because of networkmanager ?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> jokester: also check what you have in /etc/hosts
[02:47] <jokester> tied to loopback
[02:48] <thoreauputic> jokester: network manager requires that you have only the lo interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:48] <jokester> iface lo inet loopback
[02:48] <squarepusher> thoreauputic: you know, there's nothing wrong with giving out information. Information wants to be free, after all.
[02:48] <thoreauputic> OK
[02:48] <Daniel0> on the login screen, when i click 'configure login manager' it asks for a password. what password should i enter? o_O
[02:48] <jokester> hosts is empty
[02:48] <thoreauputic> squarepusher: when you give info that might delete important files, all bets are off
[02:49] <thoreauputic> jokester: that could be your problem
[02:49] <jokester> why ?
[02:49] <jokester> should tie localhost with 127.0.0.1 ?
[02:49] <eds0n> hey, is there any way to install xfsprogs 2.8 through a repo?
[02:49] <faisal_d> hello... gcc problems compiling postgresql on ubuntu dapper... is this the right channel?
[02:49] <eds0n> I need it to fix my hd, and the older versions can't due to a bug
[02:50] <thoreauputic> jokester: you need at least 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>
[02:50] <jokester> oki trying that thx
[02:50] <ompaul> faisal_d, silly question why are you not installing it out of the box?
[02:50] <xopher> someone with amd64 want to help me try something  out?
[02:51] <faisal_d> ompaul, tried it but it gave me some trouble... decided to build from source, because ti worked with me before on FC5
[02:51] <thoreauputic> jokester: if you have statically configured IPs you will want /etc/hosts entries for those too, probably
[02:51] <seth1248> Can anyone tell me why I get the error: "Can't find file "ledcaps" for compat include" in /var/log/gdm/:0.log?
[02:52] <ompaul> faisal_d, what trouble, (I prefer to work with packages I can point you at all the compiling guides but it shouldbe achievable with packages)
[02:52] <faisal_d> ompaul... kk, i'll reinstall the package and get back to you :)
[02:53] <ompaul> faisal_d, okay
[02:54] <thoreauputic> jokester: your lo entry in /etc/network/interfaces also needs auto lo  if I remember correctly
[02:54] <jokester> yeah its there
[02:55] <thoreauputic> OK - sudo  /etc/init.d/networking restart  ( can't hurt, might help)
[02:58] <devilz> thoreauputic, do you know why i keep getting mesa instead of ati
[02:59] <jokeste1> not working as I hoped
[02:59] <jokeste1> can it be because of networkmanager ?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> devilz: no, I have a rubbish onboard card here so I never had to configure that stuff :)
[02:59] <jokeste1> i installed a stupid applet a while back and thought i got rid of it but i see it's still there somehow
[03:00] <SVisor> !easyubuntu
[03:00] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:00] <thoreauputic> jokeste1: possible - network manager did some funky things on my laptop until i downgraded it to a lower version ( my wifi doesn't support wpa but nm wants to use wpasupplicant )
[03:01] <jokeste1> i'll uninstall it just to make sure. shitty comp so slow its really unusable
[03:02] <Blob> Mornin's all.  I want to install Vmplayer on my ubuntu AMD64 box but can't find the package.  Where should I look?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> jokeste1: if you uninstall it, purge it - but you'll have to reconfigure your network interfaces
[03:03] <thoreauputic> !info vmware-player
[03:03] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[03:03] <jokeste1> erasing it, and burning the bits where it was installed ;)
[03:03] <thoreauputic> Blob: I don't know if it's available for amd64
[03:03] <avalost> anyone have ANY idea when flash 8,9+ will be released for linux?
[03:04] <bouter> hey     How can I determine which IPW2200BG driver version I have installed?
[03:04] <thoreauputic> Blob: ah, according to the factoid it is...
[03:04] <spinz8r> NM applet now only shows wired networking. wireless info missing after uninstalling ndiswrapper. How do i get the full nm info again?
[03:04] <vandit> Hi can somebody help me with Java?
[03:04] <vandit> installation
[03:04] <jrib> avalost: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[03:04] <faisal_d> vandit, what's wrong?
[03:04] <vandit> well
[03:04] <thoreauputic> spinz8r: assuming you have configured your card for a new driver, try  sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[03:05] <vandit> I have 1.5 installed the one that came with Ubuntu but firefox doesn't see it.....but really what I want to do is install 1.6 beta and so that firefox will see it
[03:05] <thoreauputic> !java
[03:05] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:05] <avalost> jrib: thanks
[03:05] <bouter> anyone here who can anser my question?
[03:05] <jrib> avalost: check out the august 30th post
[03:06] <Krpano> after the install the update manager asked me to update my system.....i did it.....so, after the install and reboot i see 2 kernel options on the GRUB....
[03:06] <faisal_d> bouter you need to ask your question to see if anybody can answer it
[03:06] <Krpano> is it normal ?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> bouter:  lsmod ?
[03:06] <spinz8r> thoreauputic: cool, tks
[03:06] <faisal_d> vandit, check what thoreauputic said
[03:06] <vandit> I am......thanks
[03:06] <bouter> I already did     but here it is again :)     how do I determine which drver version of IPX2200 I have installed?
[03:06] <erUSUL> vandit: install sun-java5-plugin for firefox support
[03:07] <vandit> erUSUL but what if like I want to have not 1.5 but 1.6 beta java?
[03:07] <erUSUL> vandit: you can dl it from sun and install it by hand
[03:08] <vandit> and can I have that be the default java?
[03:08] <Blob> thoreauputic, Do you have more information?  Where is the factoid?
[03:08] <eds0n> hey, is there anyway I can umount the ubuntu livecd in order to burn something?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> !info vmware-player
[03:08] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Blob: ^^^^
[03:09] <faisal_d> vandit, yes... you can redifne your JAVA_HOME environment variable to the new version... not so sure if firefox would see it though
[03:09] <bouter> thanks    but lsmod doesn 't display the version
[03:09] <Gorbulas> hello
[03:10] <Gorbulas> I installed Ubuntu before I had registered my computer's MAC address on the network, and did not have an internet connection when the installer was running
[03:11] <oqbo> hello
[03:11] <oqbo> i need help with ubuntu
[03:11] <thoreauputic> !ask
[03:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:11] <Blob> thoreauputic, thanks!  I'll see if I can install it/
[03:11] <Gorbulas> I had to manually add some repositories to make some stuff work(uncommented most everything in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:12] <oqbo> i 've a macbook with macosx
[03:12] <thoreauputic> Blob: just enable the multiverse and universe repos
[03:12] <oqbo> i want to use ubuntu
[03:12] <oqbo> but my partition is very little
[03:12] <Gorbulas> but I still seem to be missing the universe repository, as I had to manually download packages from package.ubuntu.org to install avahi and java-sun
[03:12] <thoreauputic> oqbo: I dual boot OS-X and Ubuntu on an iBook - 10 Gig part for Ubuntu
[03:12] <Gorbulas> what should I have in my sources.list?
[03:13] <squarepusher> oqbo: Google puppylinux
[03:13] <oqbo> how i inrease partition and recognise a good disk to install ubuntu
[03:13] <Gorbulas> oqbo: Parallels works very well :)
[03:13] <thoreauputic> !sources
[03:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:13] <Gorbulas> !easysource
[03:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:14] <dante_> salut tout le monde
[03:14] <dante_> il y a des franais ici,?
[03:15] <dante_> franais ici???
[03:15] <lucasvo> !french
[03:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:15] <benkong2> hey all, I have an IBM x30 with a P3 processor I installed ubuntu with an i386 kernel. Should I use the i686 kernel?
[03:15] <dante_> merchi !!!
[03:16] <Gorbulas> :(
[03:16] <thoreauputic> dante_: trop de calvados? ( merchi... hic)
[03:16] <dante_> vivi
[03:16] <thoreauputic> ;P
[03:16] <Gorbulas> does Ubuntu default to installing the software necessary for MS encrypted ppp vpns?
[03:16] <Gorbulas> (I am on the school wireless and they block my internet connection unless I VPN)
[03:17] <thoreauputic> !vpn
[03:17] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:17] <DJGummikuh> hey I just found something rather odd with ubuntu's package of apache
[03:18] <DJGummikuh> wherever a folder "images" exists, it is forbidden to access - what is happening here?
[03:18] <benkong2> !kernel
[03:18] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:18] <Gorbulas> that doesn't say how to use an ubuntu client
[03:18] <thoreauputic> Gorbulas: *shrug* i thought it might help...
[03:19] <DJGummikuh> hey someone can help me on that one?
[03:19] <KanRiNiN> Hey I have a question about rebuilding packages using apt-get build-dep command
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Gorbulas: there's openvpn, but I have no idea if it plays nice with MS versions
[03:19] <Gorbulas> I can ping my Mac
[03:19] <Gorbulas> :)
[03:20] <DJGummikuh> grats :D
[03:20] <DarkMageZ> thoreauputic, from what i've heard, openvpn doesn't play nicely with microsoft's vpn
[03:20] <thoreauputic> DJGummikuh: try ls -ld /foldername to see the permissions
[03:20] <DJGummikuh> thoreauputic: drwxrwxrwx
[03:20] <thoreauputic> DarkMageZ: that's what i susupected
[03:20] <thoreauputic> *suspected
[03:20] <DJGummikuh> thoreauputic: I'm not the user a friend is but I have more experience with linux than he does ;)
[03:20] <DarkMageZ> thoreauputic, i've heard that all the different vendors have their slightly different implementation...
[03:21] <DJGummikuh> so I try to help him
[03:21] <thoreauputic> DJGummikuh: that looks like complee access - or it's a symlink ?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> *complete
[03:21] <DJGummikuh> thoreauputic: its complete access...
[03:21] <DJGummikuh> thoreauputic: its for testing purposes - however even then I cannot access it
[03:22] <DJGummikuh> as soon as the folder is RENAMED to somethign else like images2, it can be accessed
[03:22] <thoreauputic> DJGummikuh: even as root?
[03:22] <Daniel0> on the login screen, when i click 'configure login manager' it asks for a password. what password should i enter? o_O
[03:22] <DJGummikuh> yes you can access it from the system
[03:22] <DJGummikuh> but apache denies access from http
[03:22] <DJGummikuh> Daniel0: your user password i would suggest
[03:22] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: your password, assuming you are the first user configured on the box
[03:22] <Daniel0> it says it's the wrong password
[03:22] <Daniel0> when i enter mine
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: did you use the "expert" install ?
[03:23] <Daniel0> for the user 'daniel' (which i created when i installed it)
[03:23] <Daniel0> i don't know...
[03:23] <Daniel0> which is 'expert'?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: your /etc/sudoers should have the admin user enabled, and you need to be in the admin group
[03:23] <fourat> anyone using gizmoproject ?
[03:23] <britt> okay, I used ssh-keygen to create a RSA key, and im trying to figure out how to do the other parts. is there a howto?
[03:24] <fourat> i have sound problems with gizmo
[03:25] <Daniel0> thoreauputic: it is
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: then your password should work - is this dapper 6.06 LTS ?
[03:26] <Daniel0> thoreauputic: yeah
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: and you are sure your user is in the admin group? Type "groups" without quotes to see
[03:26] <thoreauputic> in a terminal of course
[03:26] <Daniel0> i am
[03:27] <Daniel0> and i can use the sudo command and such
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: so it's only GUI apps that cause trouble?
[03:27] <britt> i'm confused. this isnt the main ubuntu room? Im trying to find information about using keypairs with SSH
[03:28] <thoreauputic> or only the login screen configure app?
[03:28] <Daniel0> thoreauputic: well, on the login screen it i can click on a button that says 'sessions' (or something like that), then i can choose 'configure login manager'. then without having entered a username it switches to password, and when i enter my password it just says 'wrong password'
[03:28] <thoreauputic> britt: yes this is it
[03:28] <Rookie-> your right britt - this is the main ubuntu room
[03:29] <britt> thoreauputic: so can you help me with keypairs or direct me to some howto?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: try configuring it from gnome after logging in
[03:29] <greg_zx> lol
[03:29] <thoreauputic> britt: if you wait a moment - but your question was pretty general
[03:29] <britt> thoreauputic:
[03:30] <thoreauputic> !patience
[03:30] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:30] <Daniel0> thoreauputic: is that System > Administration > Login Window?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: yes, sounds right
[03:30] <faisal_d> britt: this might help you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30709.html
[03:30] <Daniel0> so is login window and login manager the same?
[03:32] <godfather> guys
[03:32] <godfather> have a big problem
[03:32] <faisal_d> godfather: told you that dealing with the mafia is of no good :)
[03:32] <dhq> dimsuz: access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[03:32] <dhq> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[03:32] <Daniel0> thoreauputic: then how would i set gnome as the default desktop enviroment?
[03:32] <godfather> faisal
[03:32] <godfather> don't worry
[03:33] <dhq> i get this error cannont connect to xserver what do i do
[03:33] <godfather> i'm a fair dinkum
[03:33] <godfather> i have a wireless modem
[03:33] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: when you choose gnome from sessions, it will ask you on login if you want it as default
[03:33] <godfather> of an italian telecomunication society
[03:33] <godfather> the problem i s that installation's cd runs only on win
[03:33] <thoreauputic> britt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[03:34] <godfather> i have a poor ubuntu dapper drake
[03:34] <godfather> and i'm completely out with nets
[03:34] <Daniel0> thoreauputic: no... it just closes and then i can login into gnome. then next time i want to log in i will have to do it again
[03:34] <godfather> on italian chat of ubunt nobody could help me so
[03:34] <godfather> soonly you can save me
[03:35] <godfather> i can see
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: erm - here it asks every time that you change the session - else it uses the default
[03:35] <godfather> with wireless assistant the net
[03:35] <godfather> but i can't surf on internet
[03:35] <Daniel0> thoreauputic: is there another way to do it then?
[03:35] <godfather> i have the wep
[03:35] <godfather> and wpa
[03:35] <bintut> how can i connect to a remote server thru ipsec in my ubuntu workstation?
[03:35] <godfather> anybody can help me
[03:35] <godfather> ?
[03:36] <dhq> brb
[03:36] <DJGummikuh> bintut: you need cisco vpn client
[03:36] <baalzamon> Hi, could anyone tell me where do i change the color bright in ubuntu?
[03:36] <thephunkizm> does anyone know which file contains the extension information for firefox?  i installed an extension and it's locking up my browser so i have to remove it somehow!
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Daniel0: I don't understand the problem - if you want gnome, tell it to give you gnome - if youwant something else, choose that and tell it to make that your default wen it asks
[03:36] <thoreauputic> *when
[03:36] <DJGummikuh> thoreauputic: remove .firefox from your home directory to delete all configuration
[03:37] <Daniel0> it don't ask me, it just remembers is for the session. then when i log out and in again it uses another one
[03:37] <thoreauputic> britt: I take it your silence means that howto is adequate to your demanding needs?
[03:37] <britt> lol
[03:37] <baalzamon> anyone to help me?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> DJGummikuh: I think you hav ethe wrong nick..
[03:37] <lupine_85> thephunkizm: ~/.firefox/(profilename/extensions
[03:37] <bintut> DJGummikuh: can't i connect to an ipsec server using my ubuntu dapper workstation?
[03:37] <faisal_d> gofather, does ubuntu see your wireless card?
[03:37] <britt> no im still confused, but at least I have some level of direction.
[03:37] <Gaz> hi everyone :)
[03:37] <godfather> by by
[03:38] <britt> i'm just tired of reimaging my linode.
[03:38] <DJGummikuh> bintut: dont know
[03:38] <DJGummikuh> thoreauputic: why do you think I have the wrong nickname?
[03:38] <baalzamon> My screen is too dark and i wanna adjust the GAMMA and BRIGHT, where do i adjust them please???????
[03:38] <Gaz> new to kubuntu, and about ready to launch my laptop: i need some help
[03:38] <godfather> ok
[03:38] <jbroome> start with the power button
[03:38] <kryptoz> Gaz, i faced some trouble with the wireless configuration
[03:39] <godfather> i've resolved my problem
[03:39] <godfather> tnx guys
[03:39] <thoreauputic> DJGummikuh: you adressed a comment to me about firefox that was nothing to do with my nick :)
[03:39] <Gaz> yes, it is the wireless
[03:39] <DJGummikuh> thoreauputic: ah lol I thougth you meant I have the wrong nick
[03:39] <baalzamon> None here to tell me where i change the GAMMA!?
[03:39] <Gaz> heh, how did you know that ;)
[03:39] <DJGummikuh> that was for bintut
[03:40] <thoreauputic> DJGummikuh: well, that might be true too - only you can say ;P
[03:40] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[03:40] <jokeste1> thanks thoreauputic. works like a charm no :)
[03:40] <jokeste1> how
[03:40] <jokeste1> how
[03:40] <jokeste1> now :P
[03:40] <thoreauputic> jokeste1: ah, the hosts thing?
[03:40] <jokeste1> yeah
[03:40] <thoreauputic> good :)
[03:40] <jokeste1> i don't know who erased them
[03:40] <thoreauputic> you're welcome
[03:40] <jokeste1> i sure as hell didn't
[03:41] <jokeste1> well since my comp works now i should probably use it :-P by ppl
[03:41] <thoreauputic> jokeste1: you might be right about network manager - it's pretty alpha if you ask me
[03:41] <Gaz> so, how does kubuntu detect, connect and register a successful wireless card ?
[03:41] <thephunkizm> lupine_85:  what exactly do you mean by "profilename"?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[03:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:42] <thoreauputic> late here... see you all again soon, bye
[03:42] <tom47> !samba
[03:42] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:43] <DJGummikuh> is it difficult to install php under ubuntu?
[03:43] <thephunkizm> perhaps someone could just point me in the right direction to manually remove a firefox extension that is locking my browser up?
[03:43] <DJGummikuh> do you have to set anything up after getting it?
[03:43] <bouter> !msi notebook
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msi notebook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <Gaz> yes, i've been on to this page before, very helpful except one thing: i have insufficient file permissions to untar to /usr/src
[03:43] <Daniel0> DJGummikun: sudo aptitude install php5 (or php4)
[03:44] <anvd23> holy mama)))
[03:44] <bouter> !intel
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <DJGummikuh> !windows
[03:44] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:44] <anvd23> hi all
[03:44] <bouter> !wireless
[03:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:44] <baalzamon> Trying to discover how to adjust bright, contrast and gamma, could someone help me at all!?
[03:44] <DJGummikuh> LOOOL
[03:44] <DJGummikuh> "your nearest mental health institute
[03:44] <thephunkizm> !firefox extensions
[03:44] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.5-0ubuntu6.06.1 (dapper), package size 7730 kB, installed size 22912 kB
[03:45] <Daniel0> !warez
[03:45] <Daniel0> :P
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <anvd23> )
[03:45] <thephunkizm> oh well, i'll come back later for help
[03:45] <thephunkizm> g'day
[03:46] <anvd23> est' kto iz ru
[03:46] <bouter> is there anyone in here who has had problems with their msi notebook, ubuntu and wireless?
[03:46] <baalzamon> ubotu, could help? i'm trying to adjust Ubuntu bright, contrast and gamma, but not finding where to do it
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about could help? i'm trying to adjust Ubuntu bright, contrast and gamma, but not finding where to do it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <baalzamon> hmmm bot :P
[03:47] <baalzamon> !gamma
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <baalzamon> !video settings
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video settings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <baalzamon> !video config
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <baalzamon> meh
[03:48] <baalzamon> !bright control
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bright control - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <baalzamon> !bright
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bright - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <cgiec> alguem poderia me dizer como eu fao pra instalar arquivos .deb???
[03:49] <baalzamon> cgiec, melhor falar ingles aqui :)
[03:50] <Dru> spanish or italian
[03:50] <cgiec> sorry
[03:50] <cgiec> how a make install files .deb?
[03:51] <Dru> I do not know how to create .deb but installing just need to double click them
[03:51] <DJGummikuh> ok again
[03:51] <Gaz> sorry, but this is all gobblygook
[03:51] <DJGummikuh> we now installed php using synaptics and aptitude
[03:51] <DJGummikuh> is there anywhere where we have to tell apache to use php?
[03:52] <Gaz> how, just how (bearing in mind i've been trying for about 6hours now) do i install wifi on kubuntu zd1211?
[03:52] <britt> DJGummikuh: yes.
[03:52] <DJGummikuh> britt: ... and where? :)
[03:52] <lupine_85> Gaz: a driver comes installed in the kernel by default...
[03:52] <baalzamon> Dru, could you help me to adjust my video settings? (bright, contrast and gamma)
[03:52] <lupine_85> ...do you have a wireless interface? (iwconfig)
[03:52] <britt> DJGummikuh: look for libapache2-mod-php4 or something like that
[03:52] <anvd23> no
[03:52] <Gaz> lupine: thanks :), next question: how do i connect using it?
[03:53] <cgiec> but return, file not suported...
[03:53] <anvd23> no wireless((
[03:53] <KanRiNiN> hey how can I ensure that GCC is building programs with my processor settings instead of generic ones?
[03:53] <Gaz> lupine: no wireless extensions
[03:53] <britt> KanRiNiN: are you using autoconf?
[03:53] <cgiec> Dru, but return "file not suported."
[03:53] <Gaz> except for wlan
[03:53] <lupine_85> Gaz: does it say that on all of the devices?
[03:54] <lupine_85> so wlan0 is a wireless device
[03:54] <DJGummikuh> britt: what do I do with it? isntall it with synaptics/aptitude?
[03:54] <britt> KanRiNiN: the prog should be built with YOUR processor settings as default
[03:54] <britt> DJGummikuh: yep.
[03:54] <lupine_85> ok, is your AP open or does it have any encryption (WEP, WPA?)
[03:54] <KanRiNiN> so instead of ./configure just type autoconf
[03:54] <KanRiNiN> make
[03:54] <DJGummikuh> britt: and that's it?
[03:54] <KanRiNiN> make checkinstall?
[03:54] <britt> DJGummikuh: its a script to modify yoru apache2 settings, and it shoudl work
[03:54] <Gaz> lo : no wireless eth0: no wirelss wlan: 802.11b/g NIC essid "" mode: managed
[03:54] <DJGummikuh> ah ic
[03:54] <DJGummikuh> do I run it?
[03:55] <DJGummikuh> or what do I do?
[03:55] <Gaz> it has encryption WEP
[03:55] <britt> DJGummikuh: nope. Get synaptic to install it and then it should auto configure
[03:55] <lupine_85> ok Gaz the module is installed fine. So now you need to give linux your wlan settings...
[03:55] <DJGummikuh> britt: hmm he has apache 1.3 and libapache-mod-php4 already installed
[03:55] <Gaz> :)
[03:55] <britt> DJGummikuh: intresting
[03:55] <lczxl> hello ,how to install qemu
[03:55] <lupine_85> ... for the WEP key: "sudo iwconfig wlan key <key>"
[03:55] <DJGummikuh> nevertheless, phpsysinfo wants to download a php file rather than show it
[03:55] <britt> DJGummikuh: did you do 'invoke-rc.d apache2 restart'
[03:55] <lupine_85> if the key is ASCII, precede it with "s:"
[03:55] <DJGummikuh> no
[03:56] <DJGummikuh> its not apache2 its apache 1.3 (whyever)
[03:56] <britt> DJGummikuh: do that.
[03:56] <britt> DJGummikuh: okay. my mistake
[03:56] <Gaz> how would i know if my key is ASCII?
[03:56] <DJGummikuh> what is invok-rcd? we did /etc/init.d/apache restart
[03:56] <georgemattos> algum brasileiro?
[03:56] <lupine_85> Gaz: if it has any characters that aren't 0-9, or a-f, then it's ASCII
[03:56] <lupine_85> if not, then it's probably HEX
[03:56] <lupine_85> erm, hex
[03:56] <Gaz> okay :), should i also inclue the hypens ( -)
[03:57] <lupine_85> if hex, then no
[03:57] <Gaz> it has letters, so i'll include the hypens?
[03:57] <cgiec> how a make install files .deb because with double click return "file not suported."
[03:57] <lupine_85> if the letters are anything from g-z, then yes
[03:57] <lupine_85> (in hexadecimal, a-f are also numberS)
[03:58] <Gaz> nope. highest letter is an E
[03:58] <Gaz> ahh! i see :)
[03:58] <lupine_85> ok, it's probably hex then
[03:58] <Nep8750> 10 = a 11 = b 12 = c 13 = d 14 = e 15 = f
[03:59] <lupine_85> once you've run that command, you need to give it your ESSID - so "sudo iwconfig wlan essid <essid>"
[03:59] <cgiec> georgemattos, cara como eu fao pra instalar arquivos .deb?
[03:59] <lupine_85> at that point, it "might" connect automatically
[03:59] <lupine_85> !fr ?
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <lupine_85> !fr
[03:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:59] <georgemattos> cara nao nao tem o dpkg no ubuntu?
[03:59] <lupine_85>  /var/cache/apt
[04:00] <Gaz> okay, it has shown error of: error for wireless request "set encode" (8b2a) SET failed on device wlan ; no such device
[04:00] <cgiec> tah dando erro, ele retorna tipo de arquivo naum suportado
[04:00] <lupine_85> ok, try wlan0
[04:00] <lupine_85> instead of "wlan"
[04:00] <Gaz> okay :)
[04:00] <federicomattes> Hello, I need help with the sound on Ubuntu 6.06. I have no sound
[04:00] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, pastebin the output of iwconfig
[04:00] <georgemattos> dpkg -i nome_do_pacote
[04:00] <Gaz> seemed to go through
[04:01] <federicomattes> I guess some volume control is muted
[04:01] <georgemattos> ou
[04:01] <Gaz> console jumped a line
[04:01] <georgemattos> sudo dpkg -i nome_do_pacote
[04:01] <lupine_85> that's fine
[04:01] <lupine_85> now do the essid
[04:01] <lupine_85> (^ ^)
[04:01] <Gaz> :))
[04:02] <lupine_85> Gaz: once you've done that, run "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" followed by "dhclient wlan0"
[04:02] <lupine_85> erm, sudo dhclient...
[04:02] <lupine_85> that'll hopefully get you connected :)
[04:02] <federicomattes> Hello, I need help with the sound on Ubuntu 6.06. I have no sound!!!
[04:02] <fourat> i have a problem with sound, can hear music do what i want, just not recording, i can hear my mic on speakers, but when opening any recording app like 'sound recorder' and start recording, it freezes :(, skype, gizmo and others wont work with my mic too
[04:03] <Nep8750> federicomattes: what kind of card is it? is it pci, isa?
[04:03] <federicomattes> Nep8750 my computer is a notebook
[04:04] <Nep8750> federicomattes: do this in terminal: 'lspci'
[04:04] <Nep8750> without quotes
[04:04] <federicomattes> Nep8750 I had previously Ubuntu 5.10 installed and the sound worked well
[04:04] <federicomattes> Nep8750 ok
[04:04] <Gaz> wow, console just poured back quite a lot of info: DHCODISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval <numbers>
[04:04] <Nep8750> do you see your sound card?
[04:04] <Gaz> *DHCP
[04:04] <lupine_85> Gaz: did you get any DHCPOFFER ?
[04:04] <Gaz> none
[04:05] <federicomattes> yes
[04:05] <lupine_85> ok, can you pastebin that console output + the current output of iwconfig and "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" ?
[04:05] <federicomattes> Nep8750 Yes
[04:05] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[04:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <federicomattes> Nep8750 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FR W (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04)
[04:06] <Gaz> erm... i would love to, but it's on a laptop nest to me, i can type the output?
[04:06] <Gaz> *next
[04:06] <Nep8750> federicomattes: then its alsa in someway[
[04:07] <lupine_85> ah :/
[04:07] <Nep8750> federicomattes: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/1058
[04:07] <lupine_85> ok, can you tell me if "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" gives you any results?
[04:07] <lupine_85> you'd hopefully get something like "Cell 1 -  blah"
[04:07] <federicomattes> Nep8750 I guess yes. I don't have much idea...
[04:07] <Nep8750> lupine_85: it should be: sudo iwlist scan wlan0
[04:07] <Gaz> 3 results: one mine, two, my nextdoor neighbours'
[04:08] <Gaz> does the ESSID have to match the routers' essid?
[04:08] <er> :-D
[04:08] <Nep8750> opps i'm ass backwards
[04:08] <lupine_85> eh, so it is :)
[04:08] <lupine_85> Gaz: yes :)
[04:08] <Gaz> lol
[04:08] <Gaz> reet
[04:08] <Nep8750> federicomattes: it could be just that your volume is low =P
[04:09] <er> 
[04:09] <lupine_85> scan reports the essid that the router has - you need to make sure that it's the same in iwconfig
[04:09] <federicomattes> I've setted all volume at high
[04:09] <Gaz> it is now
[04:09] <er> who have kubuntu 6.0.6 ???
[04:09] <Ge2X> hey could some1 tell me plz what is the command of deleting directories from the command line?
[04:09] <lupine_85> ok, try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up; sudo dhclient wlan0 again
[04:09] <Nep8750> federicomattes: does laptop have a mute button or anything? silly but it could of been over looked
[04:09] <federicomattes> Nep8750 I've setted all volume at high
[04:10] <Nep8750> federicomattes: have you tried to play a sound from console and seen the output?
[04:10] <federicomattes> Nep8750  no, it has volume control + -  but it is high
[04:10] <Nep8750> find a wav file then in console do play file.wav
[04:11] <federicomattes>  Nep8750 tried to play a cd and a wav sound
[04:11] <Nep8750> what were error or did it just not play?
[04:11] <federicomattes> Nep8750  no error. I just don't hear it
[04:12] <jacob_> User "jacob" does not have write access to /etc
[04:12] <jacob_>  System wide configuration files:
[04:12] <jacob_>   /etc/opera6rc
[04:12] <jacob_>   /etc/opera6rc.fixed
[04:12] <jacob_>  were not installed.
[04:12] <federicomattes> Nep8750  I had Ubuntu 5.10 until yesterday and had never problem with that
[04:12] <jacob_> Why do i get that when i try to install opera
[04:12] <jacob_> ?
[04:12] <Nep8750> federicomattes: it could be that alsa just didn't update right
[04:13] <Gaz> okay: DHCP DISCOVER on wlan0 t0 255.... port 67 interval 7 , DCHPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 , DCHPREQUEST on wlan0 to 255.... port 67 , DHCPACK from 192... , grep: /etc/resolv.conf: no such file
[04:13] <lupine_85> Gaz: OK - you're connected :)
[04:13] <lupine_85> try "ping 182.168.1.1"
[04:13] <lupine_85> erm, 192.168.1.1
[04:13] <Gaz> sudo ping?
[04:13] <lupine_85> just ping :)
[04:13] <Neo8750> federicomattes: actually did you update kernel??
[04:13] <Gaz> okay :)
[04:14] <Q-FUNK> would anyone happen to know which package contains the default Ubuntu usplash theme to go with usplash 0.4?
[04:14] <federicomattes> Neo8750  No. I don't know how to do it. I just install Ubuntu and run Automatix
[04:14] <Gaz> 64 bytes from <IP> (about twenty times)
[04:15] <lupine_85> Gaz: ctrl+c it - congratulations, you've got wireless internet :)
[04:15] <Neo8750> federicomattes: well it may have done that when it upgraded and that could be why your sound is messed up
[04:15] <Trackilizer> I have a daul monitor setup, but i can't login, because my mouse is on the left monitor and the login screen on the right, i can't drag the mouse to the other side.
[04:15] <Gaz> wow thanks :D
[04:15] <lupine_85> now to make the settings permanent - edit the file /etc/network/interfaces (as root/sudo)
[04:15] <lupine_85> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces would do the trick
[04:15] <federicomattes> Neo8750 I did not upgraded
[04:15] <er> i need help:(
[04:16] <jacob_> Somebody that can help me ?
[04:16] <Neo8750> but you said you went from 5.10 to 6.06
[04:16] <Gaz> a new screen has appeared
[04:16] <Gaz> GNU nano
[04:16] <lupine_85> first delete any lines which reference wlan0 (if there are any), then at the end of the file you want ( indicates new line)...
[04:16] <federicomattes> Neo8750  I have downloaded image cd and did a fresh installation
[04:17] <Neo8750> oh
[04:17] <lupine_85> auto wlan0  iface wlan0 inet dhcp wireless-key <key>  wireless-essid <essid>
[04:17] <Neo8750> federicomattes: so you didn't do any updates yet?
[04:17] <lupine_85> replacing <key> and <essid> with the exact values you currently have :)
[04:17] <zzyber> Hi, im trying to install ubuntu as server and have downloaded the ubuntu server version. Can someone explain how to get the xserver configured during install or if its possible to install the server with some graphical guide with predefined packages similar to the LAMP package
[04:17] <lupine_85> then ctrl+o <enter> and ctrl+x <enter> to save and exit
[04:18] <federicomattes> Neo8750  the system is updated (says Ubuntu)
[04:18] <lupine_85> that'll make your system reconnect on reboot
[04:18] <Ge2X> hey could som1 plz tell how can i get the autoconf utility
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> federicomattes: If you insist on running #Automatix, please make a full backup first.   The script can cause problems that are not immediately seen.
[04:18] <Neo8750> federicomattes: do a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[04:19] <Neo8750> unless you mean you did that
[04:19] <zzyber> As i explained earlier i like to install ubuntu as server without all manual hands-on to configure every component manually
[04:19] <zzyber> any ideas.........ubuntu as server?
[04:19] <Gaz> okay :)
[04:20] <Gaz> rebooting...
[04:20] <federicomattes> Neo8750  done. it its updated
[04:20] <lupine_85> zzyber: install ubuntu-server using the alt install CD, then set up as needed
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> federicomattes: Are you on a fresh install OR did you do a fresh install AND run Automatix?
[04:20] <Neo8750> Jack_Sparrow:  he said he did automatic
[04:20] <Neo8750> x
[04:21] <federicomattes> Jack_Sparrow I did a a fresh install and then run Automatix
[04:21] <federicomattes> Jack_Sparrow  But I had no sound from the beginning
[04:21] <zzyber> lupine_85: what is alt install cd?
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Neo8750: I wasnt sure if he had run it on the new install or did the new install after he scrambled his system with automatix
[04:21] <lupine_85> it's a CD which doesn't include the Live desktop
[04:21] <lupine_85> it does have lots of extra options when it comes to installing, however
[04:21] <lupine_85> such as installing a base server install
[04:23] <Gaz> erm...network is unreachable
[04:23] <federicomattes> Neo8750  I got the solution. I desactivated the buttom External Amplifier...
[04:23] <federicomattes>  Neo8750  Thanks anyway!!!!
[04:24] <lupine_85> Gaz: does iwconfig show anything in the "AP" section for wlan0 ?
[04:24] <Neo8750> the what??
[04:24] <lupine_85> e.g. mine says Access Point: 00:0F:EA:F0:E4:F3
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> federicomattes: THis would be a good time to make a backup
[04:24] <Gaz> not associated
[04:24] <federicomattes> Jack_Sparrow  Which is the best way to make backup?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Neo8750: there is an external amplifier option that needs to be disabled.. really wierd
[04:25] <lupine_85> hmm. Is there anything in essid and key?
[04:25] <Gaz> no
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> federicomattes: I use the one line tar command found here..
[04:25] <Neo8750> I never ran into that problem[
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > federicomattes
[04:25] <lupine_85> ok, does 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' show the stuff that you added?
[04:25] <Gaz> NIC ESSID ""
[04:25] <gansinho> please, I need some help to update my nvidia driver ... I've followed the whowto's, but it IS installed, howver I can't update it
[04:25] <zzyber> lupine_85: thanks, im downloading it now. Earlier i downloaded the ubuntu-6.06.1-server-i386 but as you mention that version is for techincal people that later also make their own kernel to be superSuper documentet during install..............Im thru with all manual work, as an old network engineer i just like it to work without the need of installing pinball :-)
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> gansinho: What howto and why are you updating it and from where
[04:26] <federicomattes> Jack_Sparrow  thanks for your help
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:27] <Gaz> lupine: yes it does
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> federicomattes: Please come here for help before reuuing that script to install anything else
[04:27] <Ubuntu_g1> Hy, anyone . how can i test my /dev/ttyS0??
[04:27] <lupine_85> ok, try 'sudo ifup -a'
[04:27] <lupine_85> Ubuntu_g1: got anything plugged into it?
[04:27] <archangelpetro> does anyone have any idea when gcc 4.1 is coming out for ubuntu amd64?
[04:27] <federicomattes> Jack_Sparrow  Now I know, thanks!
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu_g1: Testing a modem?
[04:28] <Ubuntu_g1> no, i want test my apc ups.
[04:28] <Ge2X> how can i access CVS?
[04:28] <gansinho> Jack_Sparrow: I've followed a how to from the portuguese forum (I'm brazilian) it worked great, later I've used automatix to install the driver again and it installed a better driver (in which I had controls to change gama, contrast etc from aplicatios>systemtolls>nvidia) but after some changes over here ( :P ) Ive uninstalled it and now I can't get it back
[04:28] <lupine_85> well, you can use minicom... or a whole host of other programs... to open a connection to the serial port
[04:28] <lupine_85> no idea if you need special software for the ups, though
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> gansinho: Sorry to hear you ran automatix
[04:29] <gansinho> why?
[04:29] <xopher> anyone running amd64 here who would like to confirm something for me?
[04:29] <Gaz> lupine: no sucvh devices
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gansinho: It is NOT rewcommended since it messes up peoples systems
[04:29] <gansinho> here it did not, Ive backed up my sopurces.list installed just the driver ...
[04:29] <lupine_85> Gaz: ok, exactly what did you put into the file?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gansinho: If you were to go to #Automatix, you would find little or no help
[04:30] <zzyber> i also have two 320Gb disks on this server im installing and im confused if i should have it as raid 0 1 or 5 or if i should just have it in one volume mounted as /home. Is soft-raid to recommend on a fileserver and do you recommend a mirror or as raid5?
[04:30] <lupine_85> (you did use wlan0 instead of wlan, right?)
[04:30] <gansinho> Jack_Sparrow: thats bad. =/
[04:30] <peace-keeper> aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
[04:30] <Gaz> lupine: cat: etc/network/interfaces: no such file
[04:30] <Neo8750> zzyber: depends what you want
[04:30] <lupine_85>  /etc/network/interfaces
[04:30] <gansinho> Jack_Sparrow: but, is there any repositories that I can add to sources.list to update my nvidia driver?
[04:30] <lupine_85> the leading / is important :)
[04:31] <gansinho> Jack_Sparrow:  automatix did not messed things over here... I bet I messed by myself playing with xgl
[04:31] <Dru> you could use automatix to update/install the nvidia drivers
[04:32] <peace-keeper> the only good thing about linux is that after 100 things you wanted to do fail, there are still 1000 other things to try
[04:32] <Gaz> auto wlan0 , iface wlan0 inet dhcp , wireless-key <key> , wireless-essid <essid>
[04:32] <zzyber> Neo8750: hmm, yes i understand, i think i set it as mirror anyway
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> gansinho: Edgy will be released next month.  The sources in place and the files they contain are stable.  Once you go outside that box it is hard to get back
[04:32] <skizzo> does anyone have any suggestions on a good FTP daemon that *doesn't* use linux's user accounts? And will work with Ubuntu?
[04:32] <lupine_85> ok, so the "," are newlines? And you need to replace <key> and <essid> with the appropriate values :)
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> gansinho: The sources in place with a fresh Dapper install and the files they contain are stable.
[04:32] <gansinho> Jack_Sparrow: and I will install it over dapper with no data lost?
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> No nono
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I didnt say that properly
[04:33] <gansinho> =p
[04:33] <Gaz> lupine: yes, " , " denotes a new line, and values are correct
[04:33] <lupine_85> hmm... very strange
[04:33] <gansinho> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the help!
[04:33] <lupine_85> ok, run the iwconfig commands again
[04:34] <smiff> hi. I'm trying to disable fast switch user in gnome but I can't find any documentation to do so. I already search gentoo and ubuntu forums and gnome, but found nothing about it.  I found the configuration to disable to switch user on screen saver but I can't remove the feature from logout/shutdown dialog. Anyone knows who to do it? thanks
[04:34] <ladydoor> what's a good (preferably command-line OR terminal/curses/etc. UI) audio recording program? it doesn't need to be featureful, it just needs to record the audio from my voice recorder onto my computer.
[04:34] <Gaz> not associated and NIC and ESSID both empty
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> gansinho: SOmeone may be able to help more, but as I suggested earlier, regular backups are the best thing to use before going outside the box to add something that may not be stable
[04:35] <lupine_85> so you ran sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid> and it didn't take the essid?
[04:35] <Gaz> should i delete eth0 lo and sit0?
[04:35] <lupine_85> no, leave them as they are
[04:35] <seth> I keep getting the: Error activating XKB configuration popup. What can I do?
[04:36] <seth> http://pastebin.co.uk/833
[04:36] <xopher> anyone running amd64 here who would like to confirm something for me?
[04:36] <Gaz> the essid has took when i typed in sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid>
[04:36] <lupine_85> ok; now do the same for your wep key
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> seth: I see some bug reports on that using google
[04:37] <Gaz> what was the code again :)
[04:37] <Gaz> wep?
[04:38] <seth> Me too, but most of them refer to using non-us keyboard layouts.
[04:38] <lupine_85> sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <key>
[04:39] <Gaz> access point has changed
[04:39] <lupine_85> ok, so you're connected again; run sudo dhclient wlan0 one more time :)
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> seth: Did you go through and read all the comments, it seems broken symlinks were the cause for all of those.. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugs/2004-October/011438.html
[04:39] <seth> Yes
[04:40] <Gaz> okay :)
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> seth: Did you try to add the symlink they suggest?
[04:41] <peace-keeper> lol yeah after about 100 tries i finally managed to listen to an internet radio station
[04:41] <Gaz> the internet works, but will it connect on startup?
[04:41] <peace-keeper> why does everything on linux have to be so complicated
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the line to add in fstab to mount an ext3 as read write... assume sda4 is what I wanted to add..
[04:42] <DiODO> hola' :)
[04:42] <lupine_85> Gaz: seems not :(. So we'll make a script to do the above three actions automatically
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> peace-keeper: Windows was not just instantly understood by anyone either
[04:42] <Gaz> okay :)
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > DiODO
[04:42] <lupine_85> in your favourite editor, start with the line #!/bin/bash
[04:43] <Gaz> yup
[04:43] <lupine_85> then sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid> followed by the lines sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <key> and sudo dhclient wlan0
[04:43] <Ge2X> ive installed autoconf 2.60 but when i try command "aclocal && automake && autoconf && configure && make" it says bash: aclocal: command not found
[04:44] <lupine_85> Save it into your /home directory
[04:44] <lupine_85> so /home/gaz (or whatever)
[04:44] <Ge2X> how can i make aclocal and all those other commands work?
[04:44] <xav> Jack_Sparrow: it's still much easier
[04:44] <lupine_85> then in terminal, chmod a+x ~/<filename>
[04:44] <lupine_85> (start-wireless.sh is a good name)
[04:44] <Ge2X> ive installed autoconf 2.60 but when i try command "aclocal && automake && autoconf && configure && make" it says bash: aclocal: command not found plz help anyone
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> xav: Easier now that you know it, more expensive , less stable and more vulnerable to attack
[04:45] <lupine_85> then when you start up, you can just run that script and your wireless will connect
[04:45] <lupine_85> (create a symlink/shortcut to it on your desktop for ease of use :) )
[04:45] <zzyber> still reading up on the server install and i have a question (maybe strange question but....): When installed the server i like it to act as domain controller for some windows machines on the network, i will use samba. But i have ubuntu as workstation, how do i authenticate against the domain..........can i use mapping of shares as windows do or......? This is new for me, any suggestion?
[04:45] <Ge2X> ive installed autoconf 2.60 but when i try command "aclocal && automake && autoconf && configure && make" it says bash: aclocal: command not found plz help how to make acloacal work?
[04:46] <Gaz> i typed it in open office, will that run the script?
[04:46] <xav> Jack_Sparrow: I had more lockups with linux than I had when I was on win xp
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> xav: Most problems with linux are self inflicted, feel free to use whatever works for you, but this is all off topic and needs to go to ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue the discussion
[04:47] <kendals> Trying to install compiz+aiglx, but it cannot find E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-common
[04:47] <kendals> any ideas?
[04:47] <xav> Jack_Sparrow: I don't know what you mean by "easier now that you know it". As far as I can tell, ppl have much less troubles with windows than they do with linux for doing simple/basic things
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic > xav
[04:48] <lupine_85> gaz, erm. Save it as plain text
[04:48] <termleech> is anyone else having problems with us.archive.ubuntu.org?  it's taking like 5 minutes for me to connect and get packages for ubuntu
[04:49] <ladydoor> Gaz: for future reference, you should *really* use a text editor for editing text. openoffice is for when you need fancy formatting.
[04:49] <trappist> termleech: I have problems with it all the time.  I finally quit using it.
[04:49] <kendals> termleech, the forums are going slow too..
[04:49] <xav> Jack_Sparrow: and more vulnerable is not as obvious as you may think
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic > xav
[04:49] <kendals> Trying to install compiz+aiglx, but it cannot find E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-common - don't know what to do here? :(
[04:49] <ladydoor> Gaz: examples you might like include gedit/kedit and nano
[04:49] <termleech> hmm, ok, just making sure it wasn't something on my end
[04:50] <xav> !fud > Jack_Sparrow
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <termleech> i tried three different connections and had the same results with all of them, so i figured it wasn't me
[04:50] <jbmigel> hey what package for nfs client?
[04:50] <safir> !hostname
[04:50] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[04:50] <safir> !domainname
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domainname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <jbmigel> !nfs
[04:50] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:50] <DJGummikuh> any recommendations about ubuntu in VMWare?!
[04:50] <DJGummikuh> I allways crash when trying to install
[04:51] <Gaz> thanks :)
[04:51] <DJGummikuh> !vmware
[04:51] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:51] <Gaz> now i have this script how do i run it?
[04:51] <DJGummikuh> !ubuntu vmware
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu vmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <safir> how can i set the correct domainname in ubuntu?
[04:51] <lupine_85> Gaz: once you've done the chmod thing, you can just click on it
[04:52] <lupine_85> so symlink or move it to your desktop
[04:52] <DJGummikuh> is there ANY flag where I can install 6.06 LTS without this graphical installer? something like the old debian ncurses installer?
[04:52] <lupine_85> (it's a bit of a hackish solution, but it works :) )
[04:52] <kendals> Any ideas how to get the linux-dri-modules-common package?
[04:52] <lupine_85> DJGummikuh: download and use the alternative install CD
[04:52] <lupine_85> it's a 700MB "flag", but it works ;)
[04:52] <kendals> sudo apt-get install linux-dri-modules-common
[04:52] <kendals>  says it isn't there...
[04:52] <kendals> :(
[04:53] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: hehe
[04:53] <DJGummikuh> I don't really want to use ubuntu myself (I'm quite happy with gentoo) but a friend of mine just takes his first steps using ubuntu and I need to help him ^^
[04:53] <Gaz> no such file :(
[04:53] <Gaz> internet.txt
[04:54] <lupine_85> Gaz: where did you save internet.txt to?
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> DJGummikuh: Why does he not want to use the standard installer?
[04:54] <Gaz> ... /home/gary
[04:54] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: many people find too much graphiks distasteful
[04:55] <DJGummikuh> Jack_Sparrow: because my whole system freezes when VMware tries to render it
[04:55] <DJGummikuh> it's wicked slow without the vmwares tool extension
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ladydoor: Agreed, but just wanted to find out if he was having a problem using it or chose not to use it.
[04:55] <ladydoor> Jack_Sparrow: fair enough :-)
[04:55] <Adam> Hi. I just installed XvMC on my Dapper. Why don't I see it in MPlayer's dropdown of available drivers?
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:55] <lupine_85> ok, first "mv /home/gary/internet.txt /home/gary/Desktop/internet.sh"
[04:55] <diego_cl> hi
[04:56] <diego_cl> who can tell me why cant I see the computers from my workgroup ?!?!?!
[04:56] <lupine_85> then "chmod a+x /home/gary/Desktop/internet.txt"
[04:56] <lupine_85> erm, internet.sh rather
[04:56] <DJGummikuh> what should happen when I click on "install"?
[04:56] <DJGummikuh> I mean should tehre be a window opened or what ?
[04:57] <Trackilizer> I have a daul monitor setup, but i can't login, because my mouse is on the left monitor and the login screen on the right, i can't drag the mouse to the other side. Is there anyway to fix this?
[04:57] <lupine_85> DJGummikuh: it opens a silly 6-step installer
[04:57] <DJGummikuh> do I need to single or double-click it?
[04:57] <kendals> sudo apt-get install linux-dri-modules-common
[04:57] <kendals>  says it isn't there...- any ideas how to get it to install?
[04:57] <DJGummikuh> I have SUCH a lag its not fun :)
[04:57] <Gaz> cannot start '/home/gary/internet.txt' no such file
[04:57] <Adam> Ah, nvm, found it :)
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> DJGummikuh: LAg in part may be due to running live cd
[04:57] <lupine_85> then it's not saved to /home/gary/internet.txt
[04:58] <DJGummikuh> Jack_Sparrow: its a disk image
[04:58] <DJGummikuh> so it should be at HDD speed ^^
[04:58] <Gaz> accoring to konqueror, it is
[04:58] <lupine_85> ok, drag it to your desktop
[04:58] <lupine_85> (move if it asks)
[04:59] <lupine_85> then rename it to .sh
[04:59] <azathoth> chmod is +x
[04:59] <azathoth> *it
[04:59] <Gaz> okay :)
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> DJGummikuh: I dont understand what all you are trying to do..  SO you are not just running live trying to get it to install on the hard drive you are doing something else
[05:00] <DJGummikuh> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[05:00] <DJGummikuh> Jack_Sparrow: I AM
[05:00] <DJGummikuh> but not on my native hardware
[05:00] <DJGummikuh> Im trying to install it inside a VMWare Virtual Machine
[05:00] <Gaz> so now chmod a+x ~/internet.sh ?
[05:00] <DJGummikuh> therefore I'm not forced to burn the cd but can access the image as an installation medium directly, saving me a disc AND time (normally)
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> DJGummikuh: Someone else may have answers..
[05:01] <kendals> at least you're getting attention...
[05:01] <azathoth> Gaz: yeah, that's fine
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !dri
[05:01] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[05:02] <bluescreen> hello, can someone here tell me how to run a logitech usb headset on ubuntu dapper ?
[05:02] <Gaz> i am still in /home/gary, how do i acces using console /home/gary/deskop ?
[05:02] <kendals> bluescreen, i also have that logitech headset.
[05:02] <kendals> well, mine is just a microphone- go to the forums and do a search for ak5370
[05:02] <kendals> it should bring up some helpful threads for you to get it all working :)
[05:03] <dsatch> kendals: I get the same error as you when installing that package
[05:03] <bluescreen> i have this model for ps2
[05:03] <bintut> any gui ipsec client you can recommend for ubuntu dapper?
[05:03] <lupine_85> well, it'd be ~/Desktop/internet.sh now
[05:03] <bluescreen> its shown as dsp2 but on audacity i cant record anything
[05:03] <kendals> thanks dsatch. i'll let you know if i find a solution, so stya in here :P
[05:04] <lupine_85> you can do it using the file browser as well - right-click->properties
[05:04] <kendals> bluescreen- if it's ps2, then i'm not 100% sure- you did say logitech usb headset ;)
[05:04] <dsatch> kendals: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1180481&postcount=967
[05:04] <kendals> yeah saw that one :(
[05:04] <kendals> btw, how do you whisper to someone?
[05:05] <Gaz> so how do i run this script?
[05:05] <lupine_85> once it's +x, just double-click on it
[05:05] <dsatch> kendals test
[05:05] <dsatch> lol... nope, that's not how to whisper :)
[05:05] <kendals> loll
[05:05] <kendals> you got my name whispered...
[05:05] <kendals> but not the 'test bit
[05:06] <kendals> i'm using opera for irc, so no idea here...
[05:06] <Mr0bviou1> kendals: /query username message
[05:06] <DJGummikuh> ah lol I found the problem
[05:06] <Gaz> how do i make it +x?
[05:06] <kendals> ahhh, thanks mr. obvious :P
[05:06] <azathoth> you just did
[05:06] <DJGummikuh> I only had 160mb of memory reserved for ubunut - no wonder the graphical installer failed
[05:06] <azathoth> chmod it
[05:06] <Mr0bviou1> You're welcome.
[05:06] <azathoth> or right click, select properties and goto the permissions tab... then select 'execute'
[05:07] <dsatch> kendals: did you add the xgl repositorie?
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> DJGummikuh: Glad you found the problem...
[05:08] <kendals> dsatch, did you see my message?
[05:08] <gui> show users;
[05:08] <gui> quit
[05:09] <kendals> (dsatch, ok, i'll talk in here until i have time to register my nick)
[05:09] <kendals> yeah, i installed it
[05:09] <kendals> just found a site now- i'll link you it in a sec :)
[05:09] <kendals> looks promising
[05:09] <bluescreen> kendals: i found a solution but then i have the problem that i have this nvidia onboard card , the audiogy card i use and the usb headset. Can i use my headset for recording and playing sound on the audigy at the same time?
[05:09] <dsatch> kendals: yeap cool, I found one too ;)
[05:10] <dsatch> kendals: if you add those repositories and refresh the packages it should give them to you
[05:10] <kendals> bluescreen, you can, but it's messy- AFAIR, I followed the instructions on those forum pages- let me find them for you- took a bit of fiddling too....
[05:10] <kendals> because dapper doesn't seem to like multiple sound devices...
[05:10] <Adam> anyone knows everything about powernowd (the AMD cool & quiet daemon)?  do I need to do any special configurations to it, or is it enough that it is running?
[05:10] <Gaz> and it works :D
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> kendals: check out alsa
[05:11] <Gaz> brilliant stuff :)
[05:11] <kendals> jack- using alsa atm, but it wasn't easy at first ;)
[05:11] <kendals> not like the brochure promised, lol.
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[05:11] <dsatch> speaking of sound, does anyone hear sounds in Thunderbird? It's the only thing I can't get to make noise
[05:11] <Gaz> thanks especially lupine, you've all been great helps :)
[05:11] <kendals> i do! :)
[05:11] <lupine_85> np :)
[05:12] <bluescreen> here are my soundcards http://nopaste.php-q.net/238915
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Nice work lupine_85
[05:12] <kendals> thunderbird just uses the default sound device- in this case, ALSA's default output device (onboard soundcard i have in my laptop)
[05:13] <Gaz> very nice work :)
[05:13] <Adam> how do I know which kernel version I'm running?
[05:13] <bluescreen> uname -r
[05:13] <dsatch> uname -r
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> uname -a should do it
[05:13] <dsatch> lol
[05:13] <bluescreen> :)
[05:13] <Adam> thanks
[05:13] <Adam> haha, I'm on 2.6, I must be very cool
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> HAd to be different didnt I
[05:14] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ompaul
[05:14] <dsatch> kendals: yeah that's what I thought, which just makes it weird
[05:14] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, almost feeding time here
[05:14] <LeonWP> hi
[05:14] <LeonWP> how do I get sudo work with rsa keys?
[05:14] <Adam> do the Linux kernel developers need to rewrite a lot of stuff for the AMD64 kernel?
[05:15] <LeonWP> s/get/make
[05:15] <bluescreen> hmm i tried this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64720&highlight=ak5370
[05:15] <bluescreen> but still no recording visible in audacity
[05:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: BBL,  I have to get some work done here... Play nice everyone
[05:16] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, take it easy
[05:16] <LeonWP> hm.. is it even possible to make sudo work with keys?
[05:17] <CosmoDad> is there any way to edit WMV files under Ubuntu?
[05:17] <Skaag> i'm running ubuntu on an external USB drive, it works fine but now I have an internal SATA drive, what's the simplest way to move it as-is to the new drive?
[05:17] <ompaul> !codecs > CosmoDad
[05:17] <paolob> Hi guys! What about X broken after yesterday's dapper's security dist-upgrade
[05:17] <ompaul> CosmoDad, please read the message from the channel bot thanks
[05:17] <paolob> =
[05:17] <paolob> ?
[05:17] <CosmoDad> ompaul: I will, thx
[05:17] <stir> i keep getting this error - sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[05:17] <ompaul> paolob, please take your time
[05:18] <paolob> ompaul, ?!?What do you mean?
[05:18] <ompaul> paolob, hitting enter -= and ? does not get you answered faster
[05:18] <azathoth> you posted three lines very close to each other
[05:18] <ompaul> LeonWP, so ehh what do you mean?
[05:19] <Neo8750> should i go apply now or wait a little bit?
[05:19] <stir> does anyone know know what this means sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[05:19] <Skaag> stir: how do you all sudo?
[05:19] <Skaag> call
[05:19] <LeonWP> ompaul, I want sudo use root's rsa key to allow me authenticate
[05:19] <azathoth> stir: did you change your pc name?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[05:19] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:19] <LeonWP> ompaul, er, my rsa key
[05:19] <ompaul> LeonWP, you can run it in a terminal, Applications Accessories Terminal and use for that sudo -i you should be yourself for your own rsa key
[05:19] <stir> no its always been stir
[05:20] <stir> i mean admin00
[05:20] <paolob> After yesterday's dapper's dist-upgrade I have X broken: gdm doesn't login: the X server dies. Is there a workaround?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> paolob,  perhaos reinstall the nvidia or ati drivers.
[05:20] <Dru> not another dodgy update :o
[05:21] <Tjoels> wheres the standard directory for installing programs in ubuntu?
[05:21] <lupine_85> Tjoels: depends :)
[05:21] <Tjoels> aha
[05:21] <lupine_85> most binaries end up in /usr/bin
[05:21] <stir> azathoth: its allways been admin00 but then i type users it comes up with admin00@:~$ users
[05:21] <stir> admin00 admin00 admin00
[05:21] <Tjoels> well, err i am to specify the path myself......
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> installing programs in 'linux' :P
[05:22] <lupine_85> 3rd-party stuff that needs it's own directory structure generally goes into /opt/subdir
[05:22] <ompaul> paolob, >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << that allows you to choose the driver for your card
[05:22] <enquest> is there a way to see how many time a certain file has been accesed
[05:22] <azathoth> stir: i think something bad has happened to your hostname
[05:22] <Tjoels> lupine_85: thx
[05:22] <azathoth> i got that error when i changed my pc name
[05:22] <enquest> Every time a file is called I wan't to increment a number?
[05:22] <azathoth> did rebooting help?
[05:23] <ompaul> Tjoels, you know that Ubuntu has almost 20k packages
[05:23] <stir> azathoth: is there anyway to fix it?
[05:23] <lupine_85> enquest: replace the file with a script?
[05:23] <azathoth> stir: well if it doesn't get fixed on a reboot, i'm not sure
[05:23] <azathoth> a reboot fixed my issues
[05:24] <Tjoels> ompaul: well, i didnt know the exact number.. but i was asking for like a dir to install realplayer in, cause it tells me to specify it myself
[05:24] <paolob> ompaul, do you mean that xserver-xorg is desconfigured after the dist-upgrade?
[05:24] <jhasse> Why   `   +  e   don't go together???
[05:24] <stir> azathoth: i have reboot sevral times
[05:24] <enquest> lupine_85, No that is not possible... I want to know how many views the file had... the file must be intact...
[05:24] <ompaul> paolob, you did a distupgrade to what?
[05:24] <jhasse> (same with ^ + a)
[05:24] <azathoth> can't help you then... you checked on the forums yes?
[05:24] <lupine_85> enquest: in that case you're going to have some trouble
[05:24] <lupine_85> without a wrapper of some sort, it's impossible
[05:24] <ompaul> !realplayer > Tjoels
[05:24] <paolob> ompaul, almost all days I dist-update and dist-upgrade
[05:25] <ompaul> Tjoels, read the message from ubout
[05:25] <stir> azathoth: how do you go about deleting you hostname or creating a new one
[05:25] <ompaul> Tjoels, read the message from ubotu even
[05:25] <ompaul> paolob, what version of ubuntu are you using
[05:25] <paolob> ompaul, dapper
[05:26] <jhasse> why can't i write ^ +a ????
[05:26] <ompaul> paolob, you don't need to run dist-upgrade unless you are changing versions - it is just a sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:26] <azathoth> is your keybaord setup right jhasse ???????????????????????????????????????????
[05:26] <Tjoels> ompaul, thx
[05:26] <mrj> hi
[05:27] <jhasse> azahoth, i have checked it to german, which is correct.
[05:27] <paolob> ompaul, do you think that the dist-upgrade could have broken X?
[05:27] <ompaul> paolob, >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << now please run that and pick the right driver for your video card
[05:27] <Tjoels> ompaul: are you trying to get me to use an alternative to realplayer?
[05:27] <ompaul> paolob, no
[05:27] <jbmigel> !nfs
[05:27] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:27] <eXistenZ> jhasse, Du sprechet Deutsch?
[05:27] <slacker_nl> !mail
[05:27] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <lupine_85> !de
[05:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:27] <jhasse> existenz, ja
[05:27] <ompaul> Tjoels, no it should give you how to install realplayer on ubuntu
[05:27] <slacker_nl> ubotu: the command mail..
[05:27] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[05:28] <eXistenZ> lupine_85, We cannot speak german here?
[05:28] <Tjoels> ompaul: well, i know how, just asked for the path. :)
[05:28] <erUSUL> eXistenZ: no
[05:28] <lupine_85> no idea :). I thought he was asking if there were any de-language channels
[05:28] <eXistenZ> That's racism!
[05:28] <jhasse> existenz: can you write ^ + a?
[05:28] <eXistenZ> jha, ^ + a
[05:28] <erUSUL> eXistenZ: no
[05:28] <lupine_85> define: racism
[05:28] <slacker_nl> das ist ganz gut
[05:28] <stir> azathoth: whats in you host.conf file mine looks ->multi on
[05:28] <stir> order hosts,bind
[05:28] <eXistenZ> jhasse, I use international keyboard
[05:29] <eXistenZ> jhasse, I can write many shit fh
[05:29] <ompaul> eXistenZ, no it is the english language channel, and the German channel is for getman
[05:29] <ompaul> german even
[05:29] <paolob> ompaul, I had the right driver, the nv, and reconfiguring xserver-xorg present me that driver
[05:29] <ompaul> !language
[05:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:29] <jhasse> existenz, i mean french letters
[05:30] <ompaul> Tjoels, no what I want you to do is read how to install it
[05:30] <Tjoels> ompaul: i read it anyways, and i found that i needed an extra package, thanks! :)
[05:31] <pspwill> hey
[05:31] <SaitoHajime> jharr, german keyboard are qwerty no?
[05:31] <jbmigel> !nfs
[05:31] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:31] <Sync> qwertz
[05:31] <jbmigel> domo arigato mr.ubotu
[05:31] <SaitoHajime> jhasse, german keyboard are qwerty no?
[05:31] <pspwill> i got my dapper live cds today and i must say i love it, but i cant for the life of me get my wireless card working :(
[05:32] <SaitoHajime> qwertz?
[05:32] <Sync> yes
[05:32] <Sync> qwertz
[05:32] <SaitoHajime> wow dunno that
[05:32] <jhasse> SaitoHajime: What means qwerty?
[05:32] <Sync> y = z
[05:32] <pspwill> i have a broadcom 4318 card, and ive been reading around and it sounds to me like linux hates this card
[05:32] <Sync> y and z are changed
[05:32] <jbmigel> pspwill try installing a new version of ndiswrapper 1.23
[05:33] <pspwill> how do i do that with a live cd though?
[05:33] <Healot> it's the manufacturer that hate Linux guts, pspwill
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[05:33] <pspwill> if i could get my wifi working id install ubuntu permenantly
[05:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:33] <jbmigel> pspwill you dont.
[05:33] <SaitoHajime> thx Sync
[05:33] <kendals> How do you regenerate your module deps?
[05:33] <Sync> np
[05:34] <jbmigel> pspwill you need to put your windows wifi drivers on a disk, with ndiswrapper 1.23 then after install follow these instr. for wifi
[05:34] <erUSUL> kendals: sudo depmod -a
[05:34] <jbmigel> pspwill http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[05:35] <pspwill> ok i can get my drivers
[05:35] <hantoo> how do i make sure some module will be loaded on boot?
[05:35] <kendals> How do I get sudo /sbin/ldm-manager to work?
[05:35] <kendals> I keep getting, "# sudo /sbin/ldm-manager
[05:35] <kendals> sudo: /sbin/ldm-manager: command not found"
[05:35] <erUSUL> hantoo: ass it to /etc/modules
[05:35] <erUSUL> add*
[05:36] <SaitoHajime> jhasse, but don't you need to reconfigure your xkblayout to do that?
[05:36] <elmargol> Can I use Cohoba for IRC?
[05:36] <jbmigel> pspwill ya ndiswrapper just "wraps" your windows drivers in linux goodness. I still had troubles with my broadcom though and needed to get latest release of ndis
[05:36] <hantoo> erUSUL: thanks.
[05:36] <ompaul> !broadcom
[05:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:36] <romaluca> ulibnh
[05:37] <romaluca> hi
[05:37] <RootChaos> uuugh
[05:37] <romaluca> my name's luca
[05:37] <jbmigel> what floor you live on?
[05:37] <RootChaos> can i guess ? doing a new install of ubuntu, disables sshd by default, doesnt it ?
[05:37] <romaluca> and i'm from itali
[05:37] <romaluca> italy
[05:37] <ScislaC> was there no "server" release of edgy knot 2 for a reason (such as being just on the regular desktop or alternate cds)?
[05:38] <jbmigel> romaluca i been to italy... good pizza
[05:38] <ompaul> !it
[05:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:38] <ompaul> !offtopic
[05:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:38] <ScislaC> thank you ubotu
[05:38] <jhasse> SaitoHajime: i got it: It's in the gnome keyboard settings. I have to delete "eleminate dead keys"
[05:38] <romaluca> thank you ubotu
[05:38] <jbmigel> !tell ompaul about spam
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <Tjoels> ompaul: in the link you gave me, the link to download the realplayer package is broken!
[05:39] <kendals> How do I sudo /sbin/ldm-manager ?
[05:39] <Jenga> Anybody else having trouble booting from the latest kernel?
[05:39] <ompaul> Tjoels, there are several
[05:39] <movieman> hi all
[05:39] <sparkleytone> wtf...are the repositories broken AGAIN?
[05:39] <jbmigel> Jenga by latest do you mean from kernel.org?
[05:39] <movieman> ? for any1 that can help
[05:39] <ompaul> !anyone
[05:39] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:39] <erUSUL> !anyone
[05:39] <Tjoels> ompaul, i'm in this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#id2542844
[05:40] <Jenga> jbmigel: Yes. 2.6.17.13
[05:40] <paolob> anyone has problems with X server after yesterday security upgrade?
[05:40] <movieman> is there a way to remove software from ubuntu desktop like the games on default install and bittorrent WITHOUT removing the ubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <sparkleytone> i'm getting the absolute WORST download rates from the us.archive.ubuntu.com mirrors
[05:40] <jbmigel> Jenga, wow thats pretty new, if your having troubles with it maybe talk to linus
[05:41] <Jenga> jbmigel: His phone was pretty busy
[05:41] <jbmigel> Jenga heh i bet
[05:41] <erUSUL> Jenga: kernels from kernel.org doesn't have all the drivers the ubuntu one has...
[05:41] <Jenga> jbmigel: He told me you might help though
[05:41] <ompaul> Jenga, this is not the channel for support with that, we only support the stable versions of Ubuntu, you do have an option in #ubuntu+1 but I think that is only for edgy not kernel.org kernels
[05:42] <manjo> 64
[05:42] <movieman> also im running brezzy version
[05:42] <Jenga> ompaul: Sorry. I'll try another channel then
[05:42] <ompaul> Tjoels, try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[05:42] <sparkleytone> does anyone have urls for repositories that aren't dog-slow?
[05:42] <ompaul> Jenga, not for vanilla kernels though
[05:43] <sparkleytone> i'm getting about...6k/sec
[05:43] <ompaul> sparkleytone, where is your machine pointing?
[05:43] <Tjoels> ok, thanks
[05:43] <sparkleytone> ompaul: tried both us.archive and archive.
[05:43] <movieman> sparkleytone does anyone have urls for repositories that aren't dog-slow?
[05:43] <sparkleytone> ompaul: i generally get ~1.5MB/sec from the repos...as in megabytes
[05:43] <Jenga> ompaul: Roger. I'm not game to try the edy stuff
[05:43] <movieman> if ur not in the us change it to gb
[05:43] <ompaul> sparkleytone, change to ie. and see if that is faster
[05:43] <sparkleytone> i am in the us
[05:44] <Lionheart82> hi folks, how do i tell OpenOffice to autocorrect in german language ? thanx
[05:44] <Jenga> try ca. then maybe?
[05:44] <movieman> gb or uk
[05:44] <ompaul> Lionheart82, ask in #ubuntu-de perhaps
[05:44] <movieman> try them
[05:44] <lupine_85> Lionheart82: just switch to the german dictionary?
[05:45] <Lionheart82> where i dont find ?
[05:45] <sparkleytone> ompaul: MUCH better, thank you.  what's happened to the us repos?  ever since dapper released its been spotty at best.
[05:45] <ompaul> sparkleytone, no idea
[05:45] <sparkleytone> ompaul: actually no its not better...
[05:45] <optimusprime> I need help with installing themes in Dapper.....
[05:45] <ompaul> sparkleytone, then I point at your local network
[05:46] <kendals> optimusprime- what help dyou need exactly with them installation?
[05:46] <erUSUL> Lionheart82: make sure you have the openoffice.org-l10n-de (it gets installed with the language-support metapackages iirc)
[05:46] <sparkleytone> ompaul: odd...i think its just one of the repo mirrors that come up in the dig...too bad i don't know which one
[05:46] <kendals> theme
[05:46] <idefix> why is the finnish language not in the ubuntu dictionary program?
[05:46] <optimusprime> I tried to go to the folder in where I want to install the theme....and i try to change the permission when it says you don't have permission..
[05:46] <Healot> because it mainly serve English?
[05:46] <movieman>  sparkleytone or it could b isp they are known to put port sniffers on their servers but dont count me on it i know the uk isp's do
[05:47] <kozmico> when installing vmware-player, the correct modules doesnt get buildt (vmmon and vmnet). Do I have to move to an older kernel to get it working?
[05:47] <movieman> no kozmico
[05:47] <optimusprime> I guess I have to log into root....how would I do that?
[05:47] <ompaul> idefix, ask in #ubuntu-fi how to get it together there
[05:47] <movieman> breezy or drapper u running
[05:47] <manjo> optimusprime, sudo
[05:48] <optimusprime> through the terminal?
[05:48] <Healot> !root > optimusprime
[05:48] <kozmico> movieman:  newest (breezy?)
[05:48] <movieman> drapper then
[05:48] <manjo> Application->accesories->terminal
[05:48] <movieman> sorry cant help on that i dont like it i stick with breezy
[05:48] <kozmico> movieman:  i had it installed earlier, but removed it. then i deleted /etc/vmware and installed it again to try to fix it. didnt work..
[05:48] <manjo> optimusprime, Application->accesories->terminal
[05:49] <Trackilizer> I have a daul monitor setup, but i can't login, because my mouse is on the left monitor and the login screen on the right, i can't drag the mouse to the other side, is there anyway i can fix this?
[05:49] <optimusprime> ok...
[05:49] <kozmico> movieman:  are there any text fil that says what system im running? there usually are like /etc/debian-version etc.. does ubuntu has a file like that?
[05:50] <jbmigel> Trackilizer you should be able to <TAB> focus to the login box
[05:50] <Healot> lsb_release -a >> kozmico
[05:50] <jhasse> Is it possible to make an link of the home directory without the terminal and without nautilus runned with sudo?
[05:50] <Trackilizer> jbmigel, ok, I'll try that when i switch back to ubunut
[05:50] <kozmico> Healot:  wow, never seen that command. thanks :)
[05:50] <Healot> it's /etc/lsb-release btw
[05:51] <kozmico> Healot:  ah okey, that makes more sense, thanks
[05:51] <Trackilizer> Is there anything i can if that doesn't work? i mean why can't i drag the mouse between the 2 monitors like i can in windows.
[05:51] <jbmigel> Trackilizer did you configure dual monitors properly in ubuntu?
[05:52] <Chris_Swift> Hey, I am having trouble with running Valve's Steam (tm) on Wine on the distro Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, I cannot see the words and i cannot key "keyboard focus" can any of you guys help It would be much appreciated :P
[05:52] <kozmico> Trackilizer:  there are different ways to set it up.
[05:52] <Healot> Chris_Swift: get drunk in #wine-hq :)
[05:52] <jbmigel> Trackilizer I have dual monitors and i can move my mouse between the same as windows, it was a chore to config though... didnt just work
[05:52] <Trackilizer> I followed the ubuntu guide for Nvidia and then i added some lines in to the xorg file, rebooted and had the problem
[05:53] <Gaz> hello again :)
[05:53] <jbmigel> Trackilizer you may have said monitor 2 on "left" when it is really "right" or something like that, try to move the mouse accross the other way
[05:53] <reitzell> trackilizer: so you're using twinview
[05:53] <Rico> jbmigel: wow, good insight
[05:53] <manmadha> can any one tell the links for NVDIA drivers (i am using amd 64-bit)
[05:54] <cvt> when i save files [scrnshts, k3b projects, file transfers, etc.]  to my desktop, they do not show up. why?
[05:54] <Garsty> how can I mount mdf/mds files?
[05:54] <Trackilizer> Yeah, i'm using twinbview.
[05:54] <Gaz> i have another quessy for you all: can you install banshee on kubuntu dapper?
[05:54] <jbmigel> Rico, heh been there done that :P
[05:54] <Rico> in that case you can fix it with the TwinViewOrientation "LeftOf" comment
[05:54] <Rico> *command
[05:54] <Trackilizer> jbmigel,  asumming that was the problem, how do i change it that the monitor on the left is really on the left?
[05:55] <manmadha> can any one tell the links for NVDIA drivers (i am using amd 64-bit)
[05:55] <Trackilizer> Rico, just remove the line?
[05:55] <jbmigel> Trackilizer as Rico just said you change the TwinViewOrientation setting in your zorg file
[05:55] <Rico> no, change it to RightOf
[05:55] <Trackilizer> Ok, I'll try that now
[05:55] <Rico> good luck :)
[05:56] <Gaz> how do i installed files using kubuntu?
[05:56] <movieman> sorry m8 was elswhere
[05:56] <Trackilizer> Thanks
[05:56] <Trackilizer> =)
[05:56] <Gaz> *install
[05:56] <Dasnipa] [> Gaz, what do you mean by 'install files'?
[05:56] <manmadha> can any one tell the links for NVDIA drivers (i am using amd 64-bit)
[05:56] <reitzell> trackilizer: I have twinview with a monitor on the left and I posted my xorg.conf file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23137
[05:56] <cvt> system monitor no longer opens when i click the icon. how do i fix that?
[05:56] <Garsty> Does anyone know how to mount mdf/mds CD images in ubuntu?
[05:56] <Gaz> dasnipa: i'm hoping to install 'banshee' for my ipod
[05:57] <Chris_Swift> Gaz: On most files you need to have a .deb install package or look for it in the Synaptic
[05:57] <Patrick`> embedded mp3s aren't playing back in firefox but they work fine from disk, I have libmad and gstreamer-plugins-* installed
[05:57] <Chris_Swift> package Manager
[05:57] <Patrick`> other plugins like flash work fine
[05:57] <bluescreen> manmadha: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[05:57] <Gaz> lol, what is deb and synaptic?
[05:57] <dhq> during boot my dhcp server fails
[05:57] <Dasnipa] [> gaz bashee is on the package repository. so youll be able to get it thru that
[05:57] <Gaz> total noob here, installed linux yesterday :(
[05:57] <movieman> kozmico opent a terminal and type in cat /etc/issue
[05:58] <Gaz> *:)
[05:58] <dhq> sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart                                  {failed}
[05:58] <Rico> gaz00: just run 'sudo apt-get install banshee' from a terminal 
[05:58] <movieman> that will tell u what system ur running
[05:58] <gaz00> Rico: ?
[05:58] <Gaz> dasnipa: how do i do this?
[05:58] <kozmico> movieman:  yeah, i got 3 ways to do it now. hehe, thanks :) its 6.06
[05:58] <Rico> i meant gaz. sorry
[05:58] <gaz00> ah :)
[05:58] <movieman> k m8
[05:58] <movieman> :P
[05:58] <kozmico> :)
[05:58] <Patrick`> I think I may have it, no gstreamer plugin for firefox
[05:58] <Chris_Swift> Gaz: Well if it is a linux prog then it may have a "Debian" Version loom for it on the site and dload it
[05:58] <Garsty> Does anyone know how to mount mdf/mds CD images in ubuntu?
[05:58] <Gaz> :S
[05:59] <movieman> any1 know how to remove apps and so on that come as default in breezy without removing ubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <Chris_Swift> whats the website?
[05:59] <Dasnipa] [> Gaz, what Rico said was for you. from the terminal you can type sudo apt-get install banshee
[05:59] <kozmico> movieman:  i insmod-ed the modules from an earlier kernel (vmmon and vmnet). But now i cant remove them, modprobe -r says module not found, even it's listed in lsmod. know any other way to unload a module?
[06:00] <Gaz> couldn't find package banshee
[06:00] <Rico> !repos
[06:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:00] <jbroome> !info banshee
[06:00] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB
[06:00] <Chris_Swift> Anyone know how to open a .rpm File?
[06:00] <Dasnipa] [> you have to add the universe repo
[06:00] <movieman> have u got any simbolic links to the modules
[06:00] <movieman> if so thats y it wont remove them
[06:00] <movieman> chris_swift .rpm in ubuntu ????
[06:01] <Chris_Swift>  Ayeah
[06:01] <movieman> u need to alien them chris_swift
[06:01] <Rico> Gaz: ok it's a bit more complicated
[06:01] <Chris_Swift> umm how? :S
[06:01] <Gaz> is linux ever not :)
[06:01] <YogSothoth> Hi!
[06:01] <Rico> you need to visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu and follow the instructions under 'Adding the Universe and Multiverse repositories'
[06:01] <Chris_Swift> Hey!
[06:01] <ShackJack> Hi all - had a question about the Network Manager if I may... I can't seem to get the nifty wireless-network selector in my gnome panel, all's I get is the network monitor, where I have to click to see current wireless status, then configure, then click on wireless and finally switch to change wireless networks...
[06:01] <jbroome> !alien
[06:01] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[06:01] <movieman> or just to read whats in them do right click on the .rpm file and open with archive manager
[06:01] <YogSothoth> Is there a way to use gnome 2.16 in Ubuntu 6.06?
[06:01] <Rico> you need to enable those repositories for a lot of stuff,anyways
[06:01] <ShackJack> I have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed, but can't seem to add it to my panel...
[06:02] <Rico> Gaz: once you turn those on once, you'll be able to install pretty much any application that has an ubuntu package.
[06:02] <movieman> YEAH i dont recommend "alien" the .rpm files
[06:03] <Rico> Trackilizer: did it work?
[06:03] <Chris_Swift> I will now open with the Archive Manager
[06:03] <Chris_Swift> lol i meant it will not
[06:03] <Trackilizer> Perfectly!!
[06:03] <jbmigel> nice
[06:03] <Trackilizer> Thanks alot for the help.
[06:03] <Gaz> rico: page seems fine except one thing: i have not the application , places , system toolbar
[06:04] <movieman> best to delete it and find the app u have in .rpm and find it in .deb
[06:04] <Rico> Gaz: are you running ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:04] <Gaz> kubuntu
[06:04] <Rico> well then :)
[06:04] <lilbit> anyone here experienced with postfix?
[06:04] <sparkleytone> lilbit: i am a lilbit
[06:04] <Rico> Gaz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - very similar
[06:05] <lilbit> sparkleytone, what does alias_maps do exactly
[06:05] <Gaz> rico: thanks :)
[06:05] <lilbit> sparkleytone, I have googled and I don't quiite understand
[06:05] <sparkleytone> lilbit: sets where postfix looks for the aliases file i believe
[06:05] <DJGummikuh> whichi si the package I want ot install when I want to build kernel modules?
[06:05] <lilbit> aliases for what?
[06:05] <sparkleytone> lilbit: yeah thats it.  usually by default it looks in /etc/aliases for sendmail compatibility
[06:05] <DJGummikuh> I installed kernel headers but they seemed not to be enough /it asks for /usr/src/linux/include )
[06:06] <sparkleytone> lilbit: email aliases.  usually systemwide aliases.  such as where email for "root" goes
[06:06] <lilbit> ok
[06:06] <lilbit> so
[06:06] <din> anyone know what i need to install to get the mport functionality of iptables?
[06:06] <sparkleytone> lilbit: you'll be more interested in virtuser_maps than aliases
[06:07] <lilbit> sparkleytone, so like if someone mails manager@mydomain.com it goes to root?
[06:07] <wiechu> could anyone help me to get rid of what my microphone captures from my speakers ?!?!
[06:07] <ubuntu_> hi
[06:07] <Chris_Swift> Where can the Ubuntu Source Code be located?
[06:07] <sparkleytone> lilbit: err...virtual_maps
[06:07] <DJGummikuh> hello?
[06:07] <DJGummikuh> I installed kernel headers but they seemed not to be enough /it asks for /usr/src/linux/include )
[06:07] <DJGummikuh> whichi si the package I want ot install when I want to build kernel modules?
[06:08] <sparkleytone> lilbit: something like that.  that would require a "manager: root" line in your aliases file
[06:08] <movieman> ANY1 know how to remove software installed by default on breezy without it removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[06:08] <wabbit> Could someone point me to a good sound card configuration how-to for dapper. Thanks
[06:08] <din> nm, found it
[06:08] <bahr> Can somebody recommend me a console based newsreader avaiable for ubuntu?
[06:08] <sparkleytone> lilbit: again, the aliases maps are generally for sendmail compatibility.  virtual maps are much more flexible
[06:08] <movieman> like default games that are installed and evolution and so on
[06:08] <Chris_Swift> Whats the commadn for opening an rpm file with Alien ?
[06:08] <wabbit> I have an altec lansing card
[06:09] <movieman> stuff i dont use now point having it installed if i dont use them
[06:09] <CromagDK> i have a ehm, quite an emberresing question; how come my Ubuntu Dapper does NOT save any changes or updates or ANYTHING, after i just rebooted. Im not using liveCD. Is there something i have to remember since it just gets back to what it was in the beggining ???
[06:09] <Dru> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5335802.stm
[06:09] <Dru> is it just me or does the part He has also been banned from driving for three years and ordered to take an extended driving test. seem to be frigin mad as he is BLIND
[06:09] <movieman> chris_swift u cant open it only convert it and install it
[06:09] <movieman> sudo alien bleble.rpm
[06:09] <Chris_Swift> ok do you know the command for it?
[06:09] <Chris_Swift> thanks
[06:09] <movieman> np
[06:10] <movieman> that command will make u the .deb file
[06:10] <CromagDK> i hope someone has somekind of hint for me :D
[06:10] <ladydoor> does anyone know of a good command-line or n/curses (or other console UI) audio recorder? i just need to take sound from a voice recorder and put it onto my computer by using it as a mic
[06:10] <movieman> sudo dpkg -i bleble.deb to install it in commend line terminal
[06:10] <cvt> how do i get ntfs write support  on usb drive?
[06:11] <lupine_85> cvt: you don't unless you're very brave
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:11] <lupine_85> if (brave==stupid) trash_cvt_hd(now);
[06:11] <Chris_Swift> movieman: it is asking for pw but wont let me type it :S
[06:12] <ladydoor> and also (but less importantly), does anybody know whether there's a way to filter the packages shown in aptitude so that i would only have to waste time looking through graphikal applications if i absolutely needed to?
[06:12] <movieman> u are typing it in but it dont show u typing
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> ladydoor,  yeares ago you could just cat/copy/dd from /dev/audio  (or somthing similer)  but its been years  since i last did that.  id say check freshmeat.net
[06:12] <movieman>  ur pw is ur login pw
[06:12] <bahr> no one who can recommend a console based news reader avaiable in Ubuntu?
[06:12] <ladydoor> bahr: gnus
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> :) its not bothering to echo *'s like many programs do
[06:12] <bahr> ladydoor: thank you
[06:13] <ladydoor> Dr_Willis: will do, but i'll still wait for a response here, as well
[06:13] <ladydoor> bahr: np
[06:13] <Chris_Swift> movieman: ok i think it is working now :S
[06:13] <egon_spengler> bahr: You could also try slrn or tin
[06:13] <movieman> chris_swift when it asks for ur pw just type it in and hit enter
[06:13] <movieman> chris_swift ok
[06:13] <bahr> egon_spengler: I'll try all 3 then :)
[06:14] <Chris_Swift> movieman: Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package fontforge: postinst postrm
[06:14] <Chris_Swift> Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[06:14] <Chris_Swift> mkdir: cannot create directory `fontforge-20060822/usr': File exists
[06:14] <Chris_Swift> mv: cannot move `fontforge-20060822/usr' to a subdirectory of itself, `fontforge-20060822//usr/local/usr'
[06:14] <tigfour> Does anyone have experience installing an IRCd and Services that can help me install it?
[06:14] <Chris_Swift> arrgh
[06:15] <park_> pentium II is a 386 processor ?
[06:15] <lupine_85> 686
[06:15] <lupine_85> but 383 kernel will work fine
[06:15] <lupine_85> 386*
[06:15] <movieman> chris_swift told u not to use it  its very temprimental and can mess up ur system by doing it
[06:15] <erUSUL> park_: is a 686
[06:15] <pfein> how big does /boot need to be?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> 386 works fine.. but you may want to install the 686 kernel
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> pfein,  100mb tops.. perhaps much less.
[06:16] <Healot> up to you, you need more if you like to install different versions of kernels
[06:16] <Chris_Swift> woop found the debian package at last :P
[06:16] <Gaz> so far with kubuntu, i'm impressed :)
[06:17] <jbmigel> pfein my /boot is 9.3MB, but you want to leave room for swapping kernels
[06:17] <SVisor> Was clicking around on the ubuntu site and clicket "http://www.ubuntu.com/server". Nothing wrong with that, except it asks me for a password. That seems a bit od.
[06:17] <movieman> chris_swift :P where theres a will there is always a WAY :P
[06:17] <ubuntu_> oi
[06:17] <Quanchi> hello
[06:17] <park_> can I compile a kernel for a different architecture on another arch. ?
[06:17] <Chris_Swift> Gaz: this chanel will help you a lot but #kubuntu may be a bit more for you?
[06:17] <ubuntu_> alguem do Brasil?
[06:17] <pfein> Dr_Willis: yeah, thanks, that's what I thought.
[06:18] <movieman> can any1 help me with my ?
[06:18] <Gaz> chris: good point
[06:18] <Quanchi> does anyone know how to bug shoot the way Linksys and Cisco devices handle the Phase I ISAKMP negotiation parameters
[06:18] <park_> can I compile a kernel for a different architecture on another arch. ?
[06:18] <erUSUL> park_: yes but it is not easy
[06:18] <Quanchi> im getting some masive weird logs
[06:18] <Quanchi> on the 3000 concentrator
[06:18] <park_> erUSUL: I'm on a celeron processor and I want to compile a kernel for pentium II .. what shall I do ?
[06:18] <movieman> ANY1 know how to remove software installed by default on breezy without it removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[06:19] <jbmigel> park_ just use the 386 kernel and get on with your life
[06:19] <park_> jbmigel: will that do the job ?
[06:19] <erUSUL> park_: that is easy.. they are both x86 i think you were trying to compile for pentium in a powerpc box or something like that
[06:19] <Spoiler> Hi
[06:19] <jbmigel> park_ yes
[06:19] <gwilma> Hello. Does anyone know how to make an app fullscreen using compiz?
[06:19] <Spoiler> first sorry for my bad english
[06:19] <Spoiler> i have an question
[06:19] <Healot> !compiz
[06:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:19] <park_> jbmigel: erUSUL: Thanks alot
[06:20] <erUSUL> park_: yw
[06:20] <Spoiler> i have an atheros wlan chip! under i386 it runs great but when i install 686 it dosent runi think there is no driver ore driver is not load! what can i do?
[06:20] <Quanchi> does anyone know how to bug shoot the way Linksys and Cisco devices handle the Phase I ISAKMP negotiation parameters
[06:21] <Quanchi> Local6 warnings from kiwi
[06:21] <jbmigel> Spoiler you need to reinstall ndiswrapper after a kernel switch
[06:21] <ladydoor> Spoiler: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ndiswrapper, then go through all the ndiswrapper setup you went through before
[06:21] <Spoiler> jbmigel: works the atheros chip with ndiswrapper? becuse it runs from the begining of the setup great i must do nothing
[06:21] <erUSUL> Spoiler: maybe you need restricted modules for 686
[06:22] <Spoiler> i have never before use ndiswrapper the wlan cip works out of the box
[06:22] <Spoiler> i havent do anything only setup die wep key and the essid
[06:22] <Danielllll-Brasi> alguem fala portugus?
[06:22] <Healot> !br
[06:22] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:22] <jbmigel> Spoiler sorry i misunderstood, have you checked your 686 kernel configuration
[06:23] <Spoiler> no i have installed 686 from the repos of ubuntu
[06:23] <CromagDK> how do i see partitions in the CLI ?
[06:23] <Spoiler> restricted modules? is that possible?
[06:23] <jbroome> sudo fdisk -l
[06:23] <CromagDK> ty
[06:24] <h2> on the livecd is ssh or vnc on and open by default?
[06:24] <Spoiler> ok iam going to install the restricted moduls! must i load a modul ?
[06:24] <Danielllll-Brasi> alguem do Brasil?
[06:25] <erUSUL> !br
[06:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:25] <[sHaRmA] > how can i see if ubuntu has auto-detected the isa-soundcard i put into my pc ?
[06:26] <ladydoor> [sHaRmA] : lspci, maybe?
[06:26] <paradizelost>  anyone know of a good install that could be done to a 60GB USB HDD that would function as a live-cd as far as hardware detection goes?
[06:26] <Sephiroth> hi
[06:26] <Spoiler> i have heard that therestricted modules included when i install linux-686 so thats not my problem!
[06:26] <Sephiroth> im using windows 98 and a 64mb ram
[06:26] <sorush20> how do I add password to my open office documents
[06:26] <Sephiroth> can't install ubuntu
[06:27] <jbmigel> Sephiroth does the live cd boot?
[06:27] <Spoiler> hm must i load an modul? modprobe atheros ore so ?
[06:27] <Sephiroth> no thats the problem
[06:27] <ladydoor> Spoiler: well, you might go ahead and check synaptic/aptitude/adept to make sure. there's no need to get excited.
[06:27] <[sHaRmA] > ladydoor: it is a isa soundcard
[06:27] <Sephiroth> ill quote the error message
[06:27] <jbmigel> Sephiroth have you configured cd boot in your bios?
[06:27] <nazgul> hi I want to use OpenGL with my i810 graphics card. xserver-xorg-driver-i810 is installed and in xorg.conf. however glxinfo says something about mesa opengl which is software rendered IIRC
[06:27] <ladydoor> [sHaRmA] : i just mean that if it shows up...
[06:27] <Sephiroth> yeah it can boot
[06:27] <Sephiroth> loads some stuff
[06:27] <Sephiroth> then stops
[06:27] <jbmigel> Sephiroth ok tell me the error
[06:27] <Spoiler> i check it ladydoor
[06:27] <Sephiroth> and displays the message:
[06:27] <paradizelost> Sephiroth: you might want to try the alternate install CD, doesn't load the GUI crap for the install
[06:28] <Sephiroth> pci - cannot locate resource region 9 of bridge 0000:00:02:0
[06:28] <paradizelost> Sephiroth: PCI graphics card?
[06:28] <Sephiroth> i think maybe
[06:28] <paradizelost> Sephiroth: don't worry about it then, i have errors like that all the time
[06:28] <Sephiroth> the other one is also a pci error, but device instead of bridge
[06:28] <Sephiroth> yeah
[06:29] <Sephiroth> but how do i boot it then?
[06:29] <Chris_Swift> I am having trouble opening .rar files can someone help me out or name an app for me to do it with?
[06:29] <erUSUL> nazgul: mesa can be hw accel if you are using free drivers
[06:29] <[Restor] > hello
[06:29] <erUSUL> Chris_Swift: unrar
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[06:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:29] <Chris_Swift> they are in .r00 .r01 as well
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Chris_Swift,  unrar the first file
[06:29] <Sephiroth> if i cant run boot the live disc, then i can't install it :(
[06:30] <eaglescout> I need some SERIOUS help with Ubuntu.  Right now it's taking over my computer.  I can ONLY boot from the CD, even if I unplug the drive that has Ubuntu on it, I can't access Windows OR Ubuntu without the CD.  I need my computer for school, as I'm homeschooled.  Whenever I restart my comptuer, it says something about loading GRUB and  then it gives <continued...
[06:30] <nazgul> erUSUL: glxgears runs for a sec then crashes...
[06:30] <eaglescout> me an error 15. Any ideas?
[06:30] <nazgul> erUSUL: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20050225
[06:30] <Sephiroth> so, paradizelost, should i just keep trying?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if the Oriealy guys have a "Grub" book. :P
[06:30] <Sephiroth> i got the same error twice while trying to boot the lve disc
[06:30] <paradizelost> Sephiroth: download the alternate install cd
[06:30] <Sephiroth> live*
[06:31] <Sephiroth> ah
[06:31] <Sephiroth> the thing is...
[06:31] <paradizelost> Sephiroth: it works best for older systems
[06:31] <Sephiroth> i got the disc through mail
[06:31] <Sephiroth> i can't burn discs
[06:31] <paradizelost> Sephiroth: do you have a friend who can?
[06:31] <elmargol> I search a light ldap server for my network (i try to share my evolution adressbook)
[06:31] <ladydoor> does anyone know of a good command-line or n/curses (or other console UI) audio recorder? i just need to take sound from a voice recorder and put it onto my computer by using it as a mic
[06:31] <ladydoor> and also (but less importantly), does anybody know whether there's a way to filter the packages shown in aptitude so that i would only have to waste time looking through graphikal applications if i absolutely needed to?
[06:31] <Sephiroth> yeah
[06:31] <jbmigel> Is there no way bypass GUI install on desktop cd? that seems a little short sighted
[06:31] <ladydoor> jbmigel: get the alternate installation cd
[06:32] <Chris_Swift> !unrar
[06:32] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:32] <eaglescout> I need some SERIOUS help with Ubuntu. Right now it's taking over my computer. I can ONLY boot from the CD, even if I unplug the drive that has Ubuntu on it, I can't access Windows OR Ubuntu without the CD. I need my computer for school, as I'm homeschooled. Whenever I restart my comptuer, it says something about loading GRUB and then it gives me an error 15.  I need help.  I'm REALLY mad at...
[06:32] <eaglescout> ...Ubuntu right now.
[06:32] <jbmigel> ladydoor yes I understand that, but what about <esc> or something like that
[06:32] <Chris_Swift> !info unrar-free
[06:32] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[06:32] <ladydoor> jbmigel: *shrug*.
[06:32] <paradizelost> eaglescout: how did you do the install?
[06:33] <Chris_Swift> eaglescout: I also am a n00b however i would advise you to reinstall it maybe?
[06:33] <eaglescout> through the Live CD.  It loaded fine and worked for a few days.. then it wouldn't let me login and then when I tried to re-install it, it made it to where my whole computer isn't working.
[06:34] <paradizelost> eaglescout: take the computer to someone that knows what they are doing, and they may be able to fix it
[06:34] <paradizelost> without seeing it, this could be several things
[06:34] <cho> hi my sound in ubuntu 6.06 isn't working anymore (since today..) any idea how i could check it ?
[06:34] <paradizelost> and depending on how you did the re-install, it could have hosed the system
[06:34] <CromagDK> is it possible for ubuntu somehow to rease ALL my data and settings after a reboot ??
[06:34] <eaglescout> oh dang it.
[06:34] <ladydoor> !language > eaglescout
[06:34] <ladydoor> :-)
[06:35] <priich> eaglescout,  it's very hard to tell with that little information. however if you haven't overwritten windows you can always restore your windows bootloader from the windows cd
[06:35] <Chris_Swift> cho: i have the same prob if someone helps you tell me as well
[06:35] <zdesar> i'd like to ask is it possible to change theme for compiz
[06:35] <eaglescout> I have all my school grades and work from the past 2 years on this computer. x_x
[06:35] <paradizelost> eaglescout: that's worst case scenario, but if you keep going on it, you could make it worse
[06:35] <ChaosFan> zdesar: as there are seems, it might be possible ;)
[06:35] <mercur> eaglescout: of course you have made a backup?
[06:35] <zdesar> ChaosFan, how
[06:35] <goldfish> hi
[06:35] <goldfish> anyone use tvtime
[06:35] <jbmigel> eaglescout you should be able to run your comp from the livecd and then backup your important data to disk
[06:35] <ChaosFan> zdesar: dunno, don't use it...
[06:35] <jbroome> he's an eaglescout, of course he has backups
[06:36] <ChaosFan> zdesar: but i've seen compiz-themes online
[06:36] <mercur> eaglescout: if you do a  new install, it would normally restore your grub
[06:36] <Cymage> any ideas as to why if i edit sudoers to make firestarter load without password, sudoers file errors and bucomes unusable
[06:36] <rixxon> why isn't netbeans in the repos
[06:36] <eaglescout> Kind of, I only have a backup for my school for this year, and about 10 days back, but I cna re-do that.  I ALSO don't have the install for the windows OS.  it was a gift from a friend.
[06:36] <paradizelost> Cymage: says you didn't make the proper modification, you have an error in syntax
[06:37] <ladydoor> Cymage: did you use visudo?
[06:37] <Healot> rixxon: because you can always download it at netbeans.org; then isntall java to run it
[06:37] <paradizelost> eaglescout: as in a pirated image?
[06:37] <Cymage> yes to both
[06:37] <goldfish> help with tvcard
[06:37] <goldfish> ?
[06:37] <ladydoor> !ask
[06:37] <eaglescout> and if I tell him what I did, he won't fix it, because he hates anything that isn't Windows, and anybody who installs anything not Wondows.  huh?  I don't think so... o_o
[06:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:37] <priich> eaglescout, you should be able to restore the windows bootloader either by doing a rapair install or boot into console rescue mode (or whatever the ycall it) from the windows cd. there you can type and execute  fixboot.exe which should restore the windows bootloader. However as other said, it is very advisable to first boot with a live cd and backup your data before doing anything else if you haven't taken a backup for 2 years.
[06:37] <Garsty> is there any CD emulator for linux?
[06:38] <eaglescout> as I said before, i don't have the windows install CD.
[06:38] <ladydoor> Garsty: cd *emulator* or cd player?
[06:38] <Healot> Garsty: built-in
[06:38] <lupine_85> Garsty: say what?
[06:38] <Healot> btw, only with ISO 9660 images only
[06:38] <lupine_85> you can mount .iso files if that's what you mean
[06:38] <Garsty> I need to mount a mdf image
[06:38] <paradizelost> Garsty: mount /path/to/file.iso /media/cdrom -o loop
[06:38] <lupine_85> MDF?
[06:38] <Healot> use bchunk if you have bin/ccue images
[06:38] <Garsty> mdf/mds
[06:38] <mercur> eaglescout: if have had also some trouble with grub, but if i reinstalled ubuntu everything was fine
[06:38] <Healot> minidisk ?
[06:38] <willys_fueguino> I need help with my xfce. I executed nautilus and it changed my wallpaper and I can't acces to xfce menus with the right click...
[06:38] <Garsty> I don't want it to be converted to iso
[06:38] <jbmigel> eaglescout back up your data if you can first, then fixing your comp shouldnt be hard
[06:38] <Healot> you need to convert to ISO first, perios
[06:38] <Healot> period
[06:39] <paradizelost> willys_fueguino: killall -9 nautilus
[06:39] <eaglescout> I can't back it up, because I cna't access Windows no matter what i do.
[06:39] <Cymage> i copied and pasted the entry directly from firestarter faq and added my login id
[06:39] <SVisor> eaglescout: http://www.bootdisk.de/ Here you can download a bootdisk of your choise. Never used em, so I do not know about em, or if they even work.
[06:39] <paradizelost> eaglescout: use the livecd to back stuff up like they've said
[06:39] <mercur> eaglescout: normally you can't access windows partitions with the livecd
[06:39] <Garsty> why can't linux mount other images than iso?
[06:39] <jbmigel> eaglescout is your windows ntfs then?
[06:39] <willys_fueguino> paradizelost, willy@ubuntu:~$ killall -9 nautilus nautilus: no process killed
[06:39] <paradizelost> mercur: yes you can
[06:40] <Chris_Swift> can anyone tell me how to use UnRAR?
[06:40] <paradizelost> willys_fueguino: log off
[06:40] <mercur> paradizelost: yes i know :) typo
[06:40] <paradizelost> then back on
[06:40] <eaglescout> nfts? *is a newbie*
[06:40] <jbmigel> eaglescout what version of windows ? xp home?
[06:40] <Healot> Garsty: those formats are proprietary, that's why
[06:40] <eaglescout> 2000 pro
[06:40] <paradizelost> jbmigel: doesn't really matter, 2k/xp by default are NTFS
[06:40] <paradizelost> Esp. if the drive is over 32GB
[06:41] <jeroen__> hi
[06:41] <jbmigel> paradizelost he could have been windows ME 8)
[06:41] <Garsty> Healot, but free software on windows can mount them
[06:41] <Garsty> IE daemon tools
[06:41] <mercur> paradizelost: i think he doesnt know how to get to the windows partitions
[06:41] <Chris_Swift> UnRAR anyone?
[06:41] <eaglescout> and my day gets better... i don't have any blank CD, so I can't make a new boot CD. x_x
[06:41] <Healot> proprietary can be free (as in free beer) but they don
[06:41] <Healot> 'have to be free as in libre
[06:41] <jeroen__> i'm looking for some one who can help me install limewire on linux.. the .rpm file doesnt install:(
[06:41] <bluescreen> unrar --help :P
[06:41] <jbmigel> eaglescout ok what happens when you start your comp... does grub start/
[06:41] <paradizelost> eaglescout: just take it to a computer professional
[06:41] <paradizelost> eaglescout: not ur friend
[06:41] <mercur> paradizelost: but i am not on ubuntu right now.i think you must explain it step by step
[06:42] <ladydoor> jeroen__: install the package alien and use that to install it
[06:42] <Chris_Swift> same here bluescreen
[06:42] <jeroen__> i'll try
[06:42] <jeroen__> txx ladydoor
[06:42] <mercur> jeroen__: you can you frostwire
[06:42] <eaglescout> jbmigel: it starts and gives me an error 15 paradizelost: I'm dirt poor and can't afford one.  I'll start saving up, though.
[06:42] <willys_fueguino> paradizelost, another way?? It's just that I shouldn't do that
[06:42] <ladydoor> jeroen__: errrr...no problem? maybe?
[06:43] <paradizelost> willys_fueguino: shouldn't log off?
[06:43] <jbmigel> eaglescout does grub let you boot into ubuntu?
[06:43] <paradizelost> willys_fueguino: i said log off, not reboot;)
[06:43] <mercur> eaglescout: you dont have to go to an computerexpert
[06:43] <jeroen__> i donno lady can u guide me tru the install progress i'm new to linux..
[06:43] <eaglescout> nope, only from the live CD/
[06:43] <jbroome> jeroen__: and typing too apparently
[06:43] <CromagDK> !twinview
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <paradizelost> eaglescout: if you have the livecd then you have what you need to do a backup
[06:44] <Cymage> guess i got lost in the shuffle
[06:44] <jeroen__> i ve already installed the alien pakage
[06:44] <mercur> eaglescout: try to reinstall ubuntu.that will restore your grub.but first try to make a backup
[06:44] <eaglescout> I only have the Live CD for Linux, and my important stuff is on windoes.
[06:44] <jbmigel> eaglescout I suggest you carefully reinstall from the livecd, taking care to use the old ubuntu partition and not your windows one. that should fix grub
[06:44] <mercur> eaglescout: you can use your live cd to access the windows files so you can backup them
[06:44] <ladydoor> jeroen__: i'm sorry...i've never actually used alien. what i would suggest instead would be to do, in a terminal, sudo apt-get install build-essential, and then find a lime/frost-wire source package and download it. i can help you then, but only if you say my full nick at the beginning of what you say and speak in full words.
[06:45] <lupine_85> alien is OK for application software, in the main
[06:45] <paradizelost> eaglescout: you can access your windows stuff from that cd
[06:45] <eaglescout> mercur: how? jbmiguel: I did that, and it made it impossible to access my computer.  Windows was working before that, but after I did that, nothing works without the Ubuntu Live CD.
[06:45] <mercur> eaglescout: do what jbmigel told.reinstall it carefully.look especially at the partions
[06:46] <ladydoor> lupine_85: right, but he wants me to walk him through its usage, and i've never used it, whereas i'm pretty comfortable giving instructions on source installation
[06:46] <jbroome> there's a damn .deb for frostwire, you don't need to compile it.  http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://mirror1.peercommons.net/frostwire/4.10.9/FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[06:46] <lupine_85> lol
[06:46] <paradizelost> eaglescout: open a terminal
[06:46] <paradizelost> eaglescout: mkdir /media/windows
[06:46] <jeroen__> ok ladydoor 'll try
[06:46] <lupine_85> so many options, so little time...
[06:46] <iqon> i just installed procmail with apt-get, how do i enable it?
[06:46] <paradizelost> eaglescout: mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t ntfs
[06:46] <eaglescout> okay, and that should do it?
[06:46] <ladydoor> jeroen__: please say my nick at the beginning. that way what you say to me doesn't get lost in the channel's buzz
[06:46] <paradizelost> that should open your windows partition
[06:47] <goldfish> why want my tvtime load??
[06:47] <paradizelost> from there, you just need a USB drive or something to copy ur data to
[06:47] <jbmigel> eaglescout sudo even
[06:47] <jeroen__> ladydoor like this:)
[06:47] <ladydoor> jeroen__: now you've got it :-)
[06:47] <paradizelost> jbmigel: ahh yes
[06:47] <paradizelost> :D
[06:47] <jbmigel> :)
[06:47] <paradizelost> i run root shells most of the time;)
[06:47] <jeroen__> ladydoor i'm from europe;)
[06:47] <eaglescout> okay, lets see if it works. :D
[06:47] <mercur> eaglescout: try to reinstall it and be sure to do the partition work manually
[06:48] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok. i'm just letting you know that so that you'll know if you ever use irc again.
[06:48] <paradizelost> mercur: pleaase don't ecourage someone who is already hosed and can't fix it to go messing w/ stuff like that
[06:48] <paradizelost> :P
[06:48] <rm_you|> has anyone experimented with vertically stacking monitors? I'm guessing it would be with xinerama
[06:48] <jbmigel> paradizelost ya sudo drives me nuts... sometimes im talking on messenger and i sudo my comments... sudo wanna go see a movie tonight
[06:48] <jeroen__> i'm not new to irc.. :p
[06:48] <eaglescout> I did the partition work manually, but that's when it messed up all of it.
[06:48] <jeroen__> ladydoor sorry:p
[06:48] <RubyTuesday> I'm stuck.  Hello!  Please help: lost power, powered-up, keyboard and mouse all screwy.
[06:48] <ladydoor> jeroen__: haha
[06:48] <paradizelost> eaglescout: so don't blame ubuntu. it only did what you told it
[06:48] <squarepusher> jbmigel: then just "su"
[06:48] <kandala> hi guys, I installed ubuntu a month back and I have some problem with sound! When I configure sounds in my gaim to indicate message reception and when I try to play any songs using xmms or realplay, I sometimes get "Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it". This is very disaapointing that I can't listen to music while working :-(. Please help me to fix this problem
[06:48] <ladydoor> jeroen__: let me know when you're ready and i'd be glad to help you with installing from source
[06:49] <Vanique> gday fellaz
[06:49] <Vanique> ;)
[06:49] <milco> the HOTPLUG folder is specified in a environment var right?
[06:49] <eaglescout> paradizelost: I know, but I did what everybody said in here to the letter.
[06:49] <squarepusher> kandala: use "ps faux" to find out which application is using your audio.
[06:49] <milco> how do i know what folder is used?
[06:49] <ladydoor> kandala: ubuntu generally can only handle playing one sound at once, since it uses alsa, unless you tell it you've got 2 soundcards
[06:49] <RubyTuesday> I have already checked the wiki and forum.
[06:49] <paradizelost> milco: if it's an environment variable, type in        # set
[06:49] <ladydoor> kandala: *or 2 different mixer devices
[06:49] <paradizelost> milco: at a prompt, it'll give you all variables that are set for the environment
[06:49] <Vanique> is there anyone patient enough to explain to me ( stunning begginer) how to do some operations in ubuntu ? i've just installed it and im completely lost
[06:50] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know what is the problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23144
[06:50] <paradizelost> Vanique: what do you need to do?
[06:50] <ladydoor> Vanique: i'd suggest asking out loud what you need to do
[06:50] <RubyTuesday> So I have two problems... the mouse isn't selecting windows and gnome-keybinding-properties won't let me unmap keys.
[06:50] <zdesar> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 libglade-2.0 libwnck-1.0 gconf-2.0 libgnome-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0) were not met:
[06:50] <rm_you|> does anyone here have more than two monitors set up?
[06:50] <kandala> ladydoor: which means I can't use sound for more than one application at a time?
[06:50] <zdesar> can someone explain how is that possible i have all packages installed
[06:50] <Chris_Swift> wtf does Could not establish connection to sound server. mean?
[06:50] <eaglescout> I tried doing that code thing in terminal, and it didnt work.
[06:50] <zdesar> which are required
[06:50] <squarepusher> teckfatt: it says on line 008-009 exactly what you need to do.
[06:51] <jbmigel> eaglescout are you logged in right now?
[06:51] <eaglescout> yes
[06:51] <jbmigel> sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[06:51] <ladydoor> kandala: basically...though i've had success playing a cd and something else at once, because they're different "devices" according to alsa
[06:51] <Chris_Swift> I get an error with Totem Player "Could not establish connection to sound server"
[06:51] <jbmigel> eaglescout fdisk will tell you about the partitions on your disk... do you see a windows partition there/
[06:51] <teckfatt> squarepusher:  thank you
[06:51] <paradizelost> jbmigel: fdisk bad, cfdisk good
[06:52] <jbmigel> meh
[06:52] <RubyTuesday> should I try another room?  Any advice?
[06:52] <squarepusher> RubyTuesday: be more specific.
[06:52] <jeroen__> ladydoor ive found frostwire.tar....
[06:52] <RubyTuesday> SquareP: clicking on a window body does not bring window to top.
[06:52] <Chris_Swift> Could not establish connection to sound server in
[06:52] <eaglescout> it didn't give me that info... let me try and tell you what it said.
[06:52] <Chris_Swift> tttotem movie player
[06:53] <squarepusher> !irc
[06:53] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:53] <jbmigel> eaglescout yes take your time, look close at what it reports.
[06:53] <Chris_Swift> !guidelines
[06:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:53] <zdesar> checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 libglade-2.0 libwnck-1.0 gconf-2.0 libgnome-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0) were not met:
[06:53] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok, sweet. download it to a place it won't bother you (for example, i've got a dir that's ~/misc/src for source downloads)
[06:54] <zdesar> can someone explain how is that possible i have all packages installed
[06:54] <Chris_Swift> Could not establish connection to sound server in Totem Movie Player can i get some help please??
[06:54] <jbmigel> eaglescout once in fdisk you must hit "p" to print partitions, "q" will exit
[06:54] <eaglescout> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 30401.  there is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: (etc...)
[06:54] <jeroen__> ladydoor i download everything to my desktop;)
[06:54] <squarepusher> !pastebin
[06:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:54] <RubyTuesday> SP:thank you for any help. It worked just yesterday. Also, focus is weird; sometimes while typing into one window focus is suddenly somewhere else. Had power drop suddenly last night.
[06:54] <Chris_Swift>      !
[06:54] <paradizelost> eaglescout: ignore that error
[06:54] <eaglescout> okay
[06:54] <paradizelost> Chris_Swift: please stop spamming
[06:54] <Tomcat_> !ru
[06:54] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[06:54] <eaglescout> there we go... *looks*
[06:54] <_Zambezi> When I try to download files in Links (textmode) I get permission denied. Can anyone help me with it?
[06:55] <Chris_Swift> lol noone is helping paradiselost :(
[06:55] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok, is it just a tar file or is it tar.something, and if it's tar.something, what's the something?
[06:55] <kandala> ladydoor: If I use a differnt sound different sound method for gaim, then will it at a time to play songs and beep my gaim message alert?
[06:55] <squarepusher> !chmod
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: what dir did you start links in?
[06:55] <jbmigel> eaglescout the "System" column should give you a hint on partition contents
[06:55] <squarepusher> !permissions
[06:55] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:55] <squarepusher> !chown
[06:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:55] <ladydoor> kandala: i guess, but i don't know how to set it up
[06:55] <paradizelost> jbmigel: cfdisk would be much easier to read
[06:55] <paradizelost> squarepusher: please, stop
[06:55] <eaglescout> okay, it only shows one partition, and it says HPFS/NTFS
[06:55] <kandala> ladydoor: ok! Let me try it out
[06:55] <Chris_Swift>   !
[06:55] <paradizelost> squarepusher: pm ubotu
[06:55] <ladydoor> !ru > Chris_Swift
[06:55] <jbmigel> paradizelost i havent used cfdisk and couldnt help him with that
[06:56] <squarepusher> _Zambezi: you need to read up on permissions and chmod and chown.
[06:56] <paradizelost> Chris_Swift: russian won't do you any good in here
[06:56] <jeroen__> ladydoor .tar.gz
[06:56] <ladydoor> kandala: swee
[06:56] <ladydoor> t
[06:56] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, "/home/dator/files"
[06:56] <Chris_Swift> ok then i will talk Welsh!
[06:56] <squarepusher> paradizelost: it ain't for me buddy
[06:56] <RubyTuesday> Can anyone help me with focus/gnome problems?
[06:56] <optimusprime> where can I find more themes?
[06:56] <_Zambezi> squarepusher, But I can wget files to the folder without sudo,
[06:56] <paradizelost> squarepusher: then tell ubotu who to send the info to, don't waste the space in the room
[06:56] <squarepusher> paradizelost: didn't know i could do that. lesson laerned
[06:56] <jeroen__> ladydoor i like the .deb files they are easy to install( i know how that works):p
[06:56] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok, in that case do tar xvzf filename.tar.gz in a terminal to extract it (open a terminal, then type cd Desktop, then do that command i mentioned)
[06:56] <squarepusher> *learned
[06:57] <ladydoor> jeroen__: haha...yeah
[06:57] <squarepusher> _Zambezi: so what? who's elinks running as?
[06:57] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: it says HPFS/NTFS in the System column
[06:57] <squarepusher> _Zambezi: are you suggesting there's a bug in the OS? Or could it be operator error?
[06:57] <jbmigel> eaglescout that is good your windows partition is still there!
[06:57] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: ok...maybe check who owns ~/files. in a terminal do ls -l /home/dator/
[06:57] <_Zambezi> squarepusher, Now, I'm not sure what you mean.
[06:58] <jbmigel> eaglescout what device is it on? the /dev/hda2 looking number on the left
[06:58] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: YES! okay, how do I access it?
[06:58] <squarepusher> _Zambezi: ps faux|grep -i links
[06:58] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: actually do ls -l /home/dator | grep files and then see who owns it
[06:58] <ladydoor> jeroen__: have you done all that?
[06:58] <jeroen__> ladydoor can u repeat that caoomand u mantioned(big smile)?
[06:58] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: dev/hda1/ if that's what you are looking for
[06:59] <squarepusher> _Zambezi: the (obvious) quick fix would be to run elinks as root.
[06:59] <jbmigel> eaglescout yes... you need to use that /dev/hda1 in your mount command that you tried to run earlier remember?
[06:59] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, The files is owned by me and not root.
[06:59] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok, first:  cd Desktop (to go to your Desktop dir). Then, tar xvzf nameofyourfile.tar.gz
[06:59] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, but I can't remember the code, do you have it?
[06:59] <jbmigel> eaglescout: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[06:59] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: thanks
[06:59] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: ok, how about this. do you know the full address of the file you're trying to download, and do you have wget or curl installed?
[07:00] <godzirra> Ok, anyone here running ubuntu on an AMD 64 X-2 box?
[07:00] <jbmigel> eaglescout let me know if it works.. you may need to create the media/windows folder first
[07:00] <jeroen__> Ladydoor i like how u explane:p
[07:00] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, I need to download the file in Links.
[07:00] <RubyTuesday> Mouse focus problems... can anyone help me?
[07:00] <alantorem> help
[07:01] <alantorem> anyone available to help?
[07:01] <ladydoor> jeroen__: thanks! let me know when you're ready to move on.
[07:01] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: may i ask why?
[07:01] <Chris_Swift> Dw i'n enw i?
[07:01] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: it gave me a LOT of stuff to read, and it's confusing. x_x  I think it worked, though.
[07:02] <Chris_Swift> Cymraeg?
[07:02] <ladydoor> !ru
[07:02] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[07:02] <jbmigel> eaglescout. you should be able to browse /media/windows folder and see all your windows files
[07:02] <eclipse_> anyone seen jirwin?
[07:02] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, It's complicated. I prefer not to explain. I tried to run Links with sudo, but that didn't work either. It's still "Permission denied".
[07:02] <eclipse_> !seen jirwin
[07:02] <ubotu> jirwin is on IRC right now!
[07:03] <alantorem> I think I have a simple issue but I do need help
[07:03] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, how? (Yes, I'm a total newbie x_x)
[07:03] <jeroen__> ladydoor this appearson my terminal  tar: Child returned status 2
[07:03] <stefg> !ask
[07:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:03] <priich> alantorem, it's easier if you just state your issue.
[07:03] <jbmigel> eaglescout... goto Places on the top left... pick computer
[07:03] <alantorem> ok
[07:03] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: ok...is that the full error, and are you stuck in CLI?
[07:04] <eaglescout> okay
[07:04] <jbmigel> eaglescout then pick filesystem
[07:04] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, CLI is?
[07:04] <Chris_Swift> %C4Could not establish connection to sound server
[07:04] <Chris_Swift> %C4 Could not establish connection to sound server
[07:04] <jbmigel> eaglescout then media then windows
[07:04] <alantorem> getting anerror with sources.list  cant modify I am only user cant access root
[07:04] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok....that's not s'posed to happen. try this:  file yourfilenamehere.tar.gz and tell me what it spits out.
[07:04] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: there isn't anything in the media file
[07:04] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: no graphiks
[07:04] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: (no X)
[07:05] <jbmigel> eaglescout is there a windows folder?
[07:05] <RubyTuesday> Can anyone advise me on window focus problems?
[07:05] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, Yes. It's no X-server and I don't want a X-server. :-)
[07:05] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: no, nothing
[07:05] <jbmigel> eaglescout run command: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:05] <echogen> hi all
[07:06] <paradizelost> RubyTuesday: you have to click the top bar for it to bring to the front
[07:06] <akemi> i can associate w/my ap .. but not ping the gateway.. any ideas?
[07:06] <priich> !sudo > alantorem
[07:06] <jbmigel> eaglescout then rerun the mount command: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[07:06] <paradizelost> akemi: are you getting an ip address?
[07:06] <echogen> my wireless connection was partially working upon instal .... but i messed things up and now i can't even identigy my network card... can i reconfigure my network in someway ?
[07:06] <jbmigel> eaglescout then look again in your /media/windows folder for your files
[07:06] <paradizelost> akemi: it's possible if dhcp isn't working, that you associate but don't get an addy
[07:06] <alantorem> ok thanks I'' try that
[07:06] <akemi> i have static ip's set
[07:06] <paradizelost> akemi: are you on the right wireless?  do an iwconfig
[07:07] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: sweet. errr, are you aware of GNU screen (best option) and of pressing alt+Fsomenumber to switch TTYs?
[07:07] <MaDSeN_> wtf can't i get danish charset to work?
[07:07] <jeroen__> ladydoor :) ive opened my dir in desktop:) and i see the file frostwire:)
[07:07] <akemi> freq is correct.. bssid is correct.. mode is managed.. good signal quality
[07:08] <paradizelost> akemi: try typing route
[07:08] <jeroen__> ladydoor i mean in terminal:P
[07:08] <paradizelost> what does it say for default? make sure only 1 listing
[07:08] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, there's a windows folder now, but nothing in there.
[07:08] <CromagDK> anyone ever experienced Ubuntu restarting and NOT having the settings OR the data saved you saved before a reboot/shutdown ?
[07:08] <ladydoor> jeroen__: sweet. ok, now do this:  file frostwire<hit tab> <hit enter>
[07:08] <CromagDK> im experiencing now :S
[07:08] <ladydoor> jeroen__: i figured :-)
[07:08] <MrMaDSeN> CromagDK: haha er du her osse ? :)
[07:08] <alantorem> how do I do that from with in vim?
[07:09] <Jowi> CromagDK: not really. but... are you out of disk space? (run "df -h" in a terminal)
[07:09] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, I use that. It's great.
[07:09] <jbmigel> eaglescout did the mount command report any errors?
[07:09] <akemi> the route entries are correct
[07:09] <CromagDK> Jowi: not out of diskspace, pretty new install
[07:09] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: nope, none
[07:09] <CromagDK> 137gb's free
[07:09] <akemi> although right now it has entries for both my eth0 and ath0 devices :/
[07:09] <CromagDK> MrMaDSeN: yeah :S
[07:09] <paradizelost> akemi: says the gateway address either changed or is having issues
[07:09] <viller> how can I change aspell's language?
[07:09] <jbmigel> eaglescout you ran it again? after creating the windows folder?
[07:09] <paradizelost> akemi: you can only have 1 gateway at at ime, or else you have issues...
[07:09] <jeroen__> ladydoor my terminal sais its adir:p
[07:09] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: totally :-). i just ask because it has copy/paste ability, and i figured another program could help. but i guess not. sorry
[07:10] <wabbit> Hi All!! I got a HP dv 5000 laptop with an Altec Lansing Sound card which I not sure how to configure. By default sound works on the Dapper distribution but the volume is very poor. alsamixer and the gui volume controler don't help. Any Ideas??
[07:10] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: If you mean the file browser, yes.
[07:10] <paradizelost> akemi: is ath0 the wireless? if so, do an sudo ifdown eth0
[07:10] <ladydoor> jeroen__: oh! that's good news. that means it unpacked it. now cd into that directory like you did into your desktop
[07:10] <akemi> ok.. that's easy to fix .. but I'll have the same prob i think..
[07:10] <wabbit> I've also notices a few posts of people with the same issue
[07:10] <alantorem> how do use !sudo inside vim
[07:10] <akemi> ifdown eth0 says device not configured
[07:10] <jbmigel> eaglescout please at command line rerun the mount command
[07:11] <jeroen__> ladydoor done
[07:11] <jeroen__> ladydoor i think i get the hang of it:p
[07:11] <eyequeue> alantorem, sudo vim foo
[07:11] <CromagDK> Jowi: have any other thoughts ? :)
[07:11] <Jowi> CromagDK: which path did you save the file to? (/home/username or something else?)
[07:11] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, But that doesn't help the fact that permission is denied. The folder is owned by me (by dator) and it should work.
[07:11] <viller> how can I change aspell's language?
[07:11] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, and restart the file browser?
[07:11] <CromagDK> yeah and /var/www/ wich is also gone
[07:11] <jbmigel> eaglescout did it error?
[07:12] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: do an ls -al foldername
[07:12] <priich> CromagDK, make sure that automatically save changes checkbox is checked in settings dialog. (settingsdialog can be found in systems/preferences)
[07:12] <paradizelost> what does it list for perms, user, group?
[07:12] <ladydoor> jeroen__: sweeet! now do this: ls . That will LiSt all of the files in your directory. Do you see one called configure and one called README and one called INSTALL?
[07:12] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: nope. I'm not liking this. :/
[07:12] <Jowi> CromagDK: are /var/www and /home on different partitions?
[07:12] <CromagDK> Jowi: hmm
[07:12] <CromagDK> not sure..
[07:12] <jbmigel> eaglescout it sounds good... now reopen your file browser and check your folder
[07:12] <CromagDK> but
[07:12] <CromagDK> i get an error on cfdisk tho
[07:12] <CromagDK> sec
[07:12] <akemi> can I flush out one of the gateway entired?
[07:12] <jeroen__> ladydoor usr
[07:13] <Jowi> CromagDK: df -h will give you space per partition at least
[07:13] <CromagDK>                       FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[07:13] <CromagDK>                           Press any key to exit cfdisk
[07:13] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay... nothing. x_x
[07:13] <Jowi> CromagDK: ouch.
[07:13] <ladydoor> _Zambezi: good point. what about the permissions? do ls -l again, and see if it has write permission (that'll be in the mess at the front)
[07:13] <paradizelost> akemi: yah, route del default gw something
[07:13] <CromagDK> thats my Ubuntu part.
[07:13] <viller> how can I change aspell's language?
[07:13] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, It says dator dator, so it's owned by me.
[07:13] <CromagDK> and no problems booting afaik
[07:13] <jbmigel> eaglescout hmmm.
[07:14] <eyequeue> viller, sudo apt-get install aspell-en
[07:14] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: but what do the perms say at the very left?
[07:14] <_Zambezi> ladydoor, It has permission, that's why it's so strange.
[07:14] <jbmigel> eaglescout can you run "dmesg" and see if the last couple lines are relevant?
[07:14] <CromagDK> priich: thnkx, but i lost both settings and data :(
[07:14] <RubyTuesday> Can anyone tell me where the direct configuratino of keyboard shortcut mappings are?
[07:14] <jrib> viller: have you check the man page?
[07:14] <paradizelost> xvi
[07:14] <jeroen__> Ladydoor i found usr
[07:14] <paradizelost> oops
[07:14] <viller> eyequeue: thanks. I allready have it. I want aspell to use Estonian but it uses English everywhere (mainly I want it in Gaim)
[07:14] <viller> jrib: no :D
[07:15] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, drwxr-xr-x
[07:15] <diego_cl> how can i give permission to see NTFS files to guests ?!
[07:15] <eyequeue> viller, sudo apt-get install aspell-whatever;sudo dpkg --purge aspell-en
[07:15] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: relevant? the last couple lines have bluetooth: at the start. (and i don't have a bluetooth computer.)
[07:15] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: hmm.
[07:15] <eyequeue> "guests"?
[07:16] <ladydoor> jeroen__: usr? errrr...ok, tell you what, do ls again and paste it into pastebin and we'll work from there
[07:16] <ladydoor> !paste
[07:16] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, That's the line at the very left. (drwxr-xr-x)
[07:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:16] <Trackilizer> I just pluged-in an Ipod nano, and i can now browse the music witth Rythembox, however, how do i remove all songs on the ipod?
[07:16] <viller> eyequeue: do I have to purge aspell-en or aspell-mylang?
[07:16] <Jowi> CromagDK: maybe best to fsck the disk
[07:16] <rukus> sounds so...
[07:16] <CromagDK> hmm
[07:16] <eyequeue> viller, you can purge whatever you don't want
[07:17] <viller> ok thanks
[07:17] <Jowi> CromagDK: man fsck
[07:17] <CromagDK> ye
[07:17] <CromagDK> thnkx for now hehe
[07:17] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: what's the output of whoami?
[07:17] <jbmigel> eaglescout ok what does "ls -l /media/windows" report
[07:17] <wabbit>  Hi All!! I got a HP dv 5000 laptop with an Altec Lansing Sound card which I not sure how to configure. By default sound works on the Dapper distribution but the volume is very poor. alsamixer and the gui volume controler don't help. Any Ideas??
[07:17] <MrMaDSeN> errors wer encountered while processing aspell-en
[07:17] <MrMaDSeN> ?
[07:17] <eyequeue> wabbit, pcm up?
[07:17] <ladydoor> jeroen__: (and then tell me the url that pastebin gives you)
[07:17] <RubyTuesday> Is there a CLI program that manipulates the keyboard bindings set through the GUI program gnome-keybinding-properties?
[07:17] <eaglescout> total 0
[07:17] <paradizelost> wabbit: check PCM, and the buttons on the laptop
[07:18] <Vegeta^> When installing a printer driver from Add Printer Wizard, durnig the Printer Model Selection, I get an error when I choose a model, which is something like "Unable to load the req. driver: Unab. to create the Foomatic driver [<name>] . Either that does not exist or u do not hav permission to perform that operation". How do I gain permission on this install? :S
[07:18] <paradizelost> there are a lot of times mute/volume up/down buttons
[07:18] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: total 0, if you didn't see it. x_x
[07:18] <CromagDK> Jowi: just a thought, does ubuntu have any problems with larger discs ?
[07:18] <jbmigel> eaglescout sorry try ls -l /media
[07:18] <wabbit> paradizelost: pcm is not up but the sound control laptop buttons work
[07:18] <paradizelost> CromagDK: i have a 530GB  volume
[07:18] <ladydoor> RubyTuesday: that's my kind of talk :-) (i don't know, but that's the kind of stuff i like, haha).
[07:19] <paradizelost> wabbit: turn PCM up
[07:19] <CromagDK> paradizelost: in one disc ?
[07:19] <eyequeue> wabbit, raise pcm
[07:19] <jeroen__> ladydoor i'm now in~/Desktop/FrostWire-4.10.9/usr ..
[07:19] <paradizelost> it's several disks turned into one volume w/ LVM
[07:19] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, This is the full line: drwxr-xr-x 25 dator dator
[07:19] <jbmigel> eaglescout can you tell me what the rdwxr-rw-rw thing looks like beside your windows folder/
[07:19] <CromagDK> paradizelost: im thinking one disc
[07:19] <paradizelost> just depends on the format ur using, i've used Reiserfs and ext3
[07:19] <paradizelost> CromagDK: that's gonna depend on computer hardware
[07:19] <jrib> RubyTuesday: they are gconf keys so you could use gconftool-2
[07:19] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: what's the output of whoami
[07:19] <ladydoor> jeroen__: aha! ok, do cd .. to go back to ~/Desktop/Frostwire-4.10.9 and *then* look for those files :-)
[07:20] <eaglescout> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 60 2006-09-11 11:07 windows
[07:20] <Jowi> CromagDK: don't know CromagDK. my largest disk is 80 gb. largest partition is 41 gb
[07:20] <kaos|STORMCHAS3R> what do i need for amarok to recognize my ipod and transfer music to it?
[07:20] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, I don't know what the whoami is.
[07:20] <refnumzx> I'd like to have a backup process with rsync start every time i insert my usb drive, a set of CLI utils to do this?
[07:20] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: go to a terminal and type whoami
[07:20] <zdesar> hi can someone tell me how to install xorg
[07:20] <CromagDK> Jowi: hmm ok, this is a 320 gb disc, but i dont think there should be any problems :S
[07:20] <zdesar> becouse i dont know i installed some old xorg
[07:20] <paradizelost> CromagDK: some older bios's max at 127 or so
[07:21] <jeroen__> Ladydoor it onely shows usr
[07:21] <eyequeue> zdesar, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <CromagDK> paradizelost: had no trouble on windows though
[07:21] <jbmigel> eaglescout if you type "mount" does your windows drive show up in the list?
[07:21] <paradizelost> CromagDK: what issue are you running into?
[07:21] <zdesar> eyequeue: it says i have latest desktop
[07:21] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, It's just dator.
[07:21] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: k
[07:21] <RubyTuesday> jrib: I don't know what gconf is -- I tried running gnome preferences applet to change keys and despite documentation claims that backspace/ESC will undo a binding, can't seem to undo bindings. Advice?
[07:21] <CromagDK> paradizelost: all data and settings are gone, and cfdisk shows fatal error
[07:21] <beerockxs> hi, how can I make the menus of gtk1 apps show up correctly, for me, all umlauts and other non-ascii characters are not displayed correctly
[07:21] <kaos|STORMCHAS3R> !ipod
[07:21] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[07:22] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: you wouldn't happen to be trying to access a fat32 partition would you?
[07:22] <paradizelost> CromagDK: fsck the disk
[07:22] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: I don't know what I'm looking for, but I don't see anything that I've seen before
[07:22] <eyequeue> zdesar, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:22] <CromagDK> paradizelost: i will then
[07:22] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok...hmm. ok, go back to usr i guess, lol. they did not do a good job of setting up the source. what's it say is in usr
[07:22] <ladydoor> ?
[07:22] <jbmigel> eaglescout try "mount | grep windows" and tell me if anything is returned
[07:23] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: nope
[07:23] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: if we have to totally wipe the system, that's fine
[07:23] <jbmigel> eaglescout you have not yet properly mounted your ntfs drive
[07:23] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, No. That's not possible.
[07:23] <jrib> RubyTuesday: try to set the shortcut to be backspace.  click on it once so that it prompts you to press the shortcut keys and then press backspace.  Does that work?  If it doesn't, type 'gconf-editor' in a terminal to see what gconf is
[07:23] <jeroen__> ladydoor bin  lib  share it shows ;)
[07:23] <jbmigel> eaglescout your data is there, we just need to get at it
[07:23] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay.
[07:23] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: what is the path to what you are trying to access
[07:23] <paradizelost> ?
[07:24] <zdesar> eyequeue: done, but it says 0 finished
[07:24] <jbmigel> eaglescout your sure you ran "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows"
[07:24] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok...erm. i think you're going to need to ask someone else for help on this, because i've never heard of a source package being set up that way and have no idea how to install it
[07:24] <paradizelost> jbmigel: i don't think he knows what he's doing.
[07:24] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, The line is (checking).
[07:24] <eaglescout> yes, but not with the space.  I'll try that again
[07:24] <jbmigel> what space
[07:24] <ladydoor> jeroen__: it's supposed to be a three-command installation for most things, but i guess not in this case. i would ask the whole channel. sorry
[07:25] <jeroen__> ladydoor i'll install the rpm pakage and try aggain
[07:25] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, download_dir "/home/dator/files"
[07:25] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, i ran it again.
[07:25] <jeroen__> Ladydoor i know a expert but i also like to chat
[07:25] <paradizelost> _Zambezi: do a sudo ls /home/dator/files
[07:25] <jbmigel> eaglescout ok please check for your files
[07:26] <jrib> jeroen__: there should be a deb file for frostwire
[07:26] <jeroen__> ladydoor and try to figure out myself or in this case you:p
[07:26] <DjDarkman`> what is the ubuntu package site?
[07:26] <jrib> DjDarkman`: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:26] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: nothing, still.
[07:26] <jeroen__> jrib thx :) where can i find that:)
[07:26] <sonorous> trying to setup ipv6 tunnel on ubuntu (installed as server). seeing lots of unusual latency (this is not an issue with the tunnel itself). am I msising something?
[07:26] <ladydoor> jeroen__: ok. well, good luck!
[07:26] <sonorous> also, what are the fundaemental differentces between -server and not with linux-image kernel packages?
[07:27] <jrib> jeroen__: frostwire.com :P
[07:27] <jeroen__> Ladydoor thank u verry many much x
[07:27] <napoleon> howdy! do any of you know how i can get a hold of the beta gaim (2.00beta) for ubuntu?
[07:27] <jbmigel> eaglescout are you sure your running the right command? there are lots of spaces in it
[07:27] <jrib> !gaim2
[07:27] <ubotu> Packages for Gaim 2 beta 3 can be found via https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[07:27] <jbmigel> eaglescout maybe you could copy/paste here the full command you run
[07:27] <zdesar> eyequeue: X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.1.1.0, required X.org 7.0 - 1.8
[07:27] <CromagDK> paradizelost: ok, done that... i get: [/sbin/fsck.ext2 (1) -- /dev/sda]  fsck.ext2 /dev/sda  and it goes to prompt again (did: sudo fsck -N /dev/sda )
[07:27] <zdesar> failed to load module 'fglrx'
[07:27] <_Zambezi> paradizelost, Nothing strange with that.
[07:27] <jeroen__> jrib i'll try :P
[07:28] <ladydoor> jeroen__: np, sorry i couldn't help more
[07:28] <jrib> jeroen__: it's on the front page as the 4th link.  It says "Ubuntu/Debian" and has an ubuntu icon
[07:28] <jeroen__> jrib i see it:p
[07:28] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay,  "sudo mount -t nfts /dev hda1 /media/windows" ... I just saw the problem. *tries again*
[07:28] <stefg> zdesar: are you on edgy ?
[07:28] <eyequeue> zdesar, did you install something not via the package manager?
[07:28] <zdesar> stefg: dapper
[07:28] <jeroen__> jrib u saved my life :p
[07:29] <james296> Is it at all possible to get root permissions for my first account I created and if so, how?
[07:29] <eyequeue> !sudo > james296
[07:29] <zdesar> eyequeue: yes i added sources into source.list for compiz manager
[07:29] <stefg> zdesar: xorg version for dapper is 7.0.0
[07:29] <napoleon> jrib: cheers
[07:29] <RubyTuesday> jrib: Tried backspace in applet, and no, it is not working.  Just browed through entire tree in gconf-editor, and don't see anywhere that looks like keyboard shortcut bindings.  Please advise.
[07:29] <james296> Im talking about without having to run the terminal
[07:30] <jrib> RubyTuesday: oh sorry, it's apps/metacity
[07:30] <eyequeue> zdesar, that's how you broke it, #ubuntu-xgl now
[07:30] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, now it gave me an error.  "mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfts'"
[07:30] <james296> cuz when I try to drag a theme to the Theme dialog it says insufficiant priviledges...
[07:30] <jbmigel> eaglescout please be careful when entering sudo commands.
[07:30] <eyequeue> zdesar, we don't support that in #ubuntu
[07:30] <alantorem> tried using sudo foo and !sudo commands...still cant edit sources.list
[07:30] <james296> well?
[07:31] <jrib> RubyTuesday: apps/metacity/global_keybindings  and then just mark what you want as "disabled"
[07:31] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: the only thing I did different was a few spacing errors.  it shouldn't have made too much of a difference... should it?
[07:31] <eyequeue> alantorem, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:31] <jrib> james296: did you read the page ubotu sent you?
[07:31] <lupine_85> alantorem: "gtksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:31] <lupine_85> or is it gksudo?
[07:31] <james296> yes but thats for a terminal...
[07:31] <eyequeue> alantorem, foo is a metasyntactic variable
[07:31] <jrib> lupine_85: gksudo
[07:31] <jbmigel> eaglescout your ntfs partition is at /dev/hda1 not /dev hda1
[07:32] <lupine_85> thanks
[07:32] <jbmigel> eaglescout can you now please copy/paste the full command you ran to mount?
[07:32] <DB42> hi, my ubuntu isnt working for a month already cause of X not starting, what can i do ?
[07:32] <gawaine> Hi
[07:32] <zdesar> eyequeue: can you tell me how can i delete 7.1 and install 7.0
[07:32] <DB42> somebody told me to reconfigure xserver-xorg, didnt help
[07:32] <jrib> james296: what does this return: ls -ld ~/.themes
[07:32] <zdesar> but everying in source.list is dapper
[07:32] <laimismilas> j
[07:32] <gawaine> I've a problem with ark on kubuntu dapper. Can anyone help me ?
[07:32] <zdesar> dunno how this happed
[07:32] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t nfts /dev/hda1 /media/windows"
[07:32] <zdesar> happened
[07:32] <zdesar> there was nothing 'edgy'
[07:33] <jbmigel> eaglescout 1 sec
[07:33] <alantorem> it is gksudo and thanks so much ...
[07:33] <DB42> anybody can help me revive my system, before i get mad and delete ubuntu ?
[07:33] <eyequeue> zdesar, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:33] <thedash> perhaps this is a dumb question, but how does one log in to root in ubuntu?  I thought the command was just "su", but I get Authentication Failure if I try that
[07:33] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, be right back
[07:33] <jrib> !sudo > thedash
[07:33] <eyequeue> thedash, you do NOT
[07:33] <eyequeue> !root > thedash
[07:33] <lupine_85> thedash: generally you don't need to. If you do, then set a root password - sudo passwd - first
[07:33] <james296> 
[07:33] <james296> drwxr-xr-x 43 root root 4096 2006-09-10 21:22 /home/james/.themes
[07:33] <thedash> k
[07:34] <lupine_85> having a root pasword is good for fixing sudo when it breaks :)
[07:34] <eyequeue> lupine_85, please do not advise that in #ubuntu
[07:34] <DB42> thedash: sudo su -
[07:34] <eyequeue> DB42,  please do not advise that in #ubuntu
[07:34] <lupine_85> eyequeue: i didn't advise it
[07:34] <DB42> hell, it's the only way i can use ubuntu now...
[07:34] <lupine_85> I appraised him/her of the possible options
[07:34] <jrib> james296: you user's theme directory is owned by root, that is why your user can't write to it.  Change the ownership back to your user with:  sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.themes
[07:34] <DB42> and nobody seems here willing to help me out
[07:34] <alantorem> yes I do have a password ...or so I though but how do I login to root?
[07:34] <eyequeue> lupine_85, if someone wants to do something foolish of that nature, they can decide it from reading the web page
[07:34] <DB42> can anybody advise me on making my ubuntu work ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[07:35] <eyequeue> alantorem, read the bot, you do not
[07:35] <eyequeue> !root > alantorem
[07:35] <alantorem> ok
[07:35] <eaglescout> jbmiguel:: back.  I had to throw something in the microwave to eat. :P
[07:35] <DB42> (it's an old installation which i have important stuff on it0
[07:35] <laimismilas> how to find  debian driver for  Intel(R) 855GM Chipset
[07:35] <zdesar> there is nobody there to answer me :/
[07:35] <DB42> it stoped working one day
[07:35] <jbmigel> eaglescout try this long one... be careful! sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[07:35] <unperson> If I want to convert an real audo file (.rm) to an mp3, is there an easier way than using mplayer to output the raw audio to a file and then calling lame to encode it?  Is there a tool that will do it all at once?
[07:35] <eyequeue> zdesar, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:35] <zdesar> eyequeue: i am there
[07:35] <stefg> DB42: instead of crying learn to ask clever questions... so what isn't working?
[07:35] <redguy> DB42: you have to give us miore detail than "it stoped working one day"
[07:35] <zdesar> but no answer
[07:35] <aztracker1> laimismilas, it isn't in dapper?
[07:36] <lupine_85> eyequeue: and telling people NOT to do something is slightly insulting to people's intelligence :)
[07:36] <eyequeue> !patience > zdesar
[07:36] <rofl0r> somebody tried using a windows mp3 player with wine ? it works but sounds terrible
[07:36] <unperson> I thought maybe mencoder would work, but I can't understand how to get it to do that.
[07:36] <DB42> X doesnt work
[07:36] <jbmigel> is ntfs read not in the livecd kernel?
[07:36] <DB42> it tries going on, and stops all the time
[07:36] <jrib> rofl0r: why would you want to?
[07:36] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: THANK YOU! all of my files just showed up! :D
[07:36] <eyequeue> lupine_85, telling people to violate ubuntu policy is wrong
[07:36] <DB42> after a few times gdm stops
[07:36] <aztracker1> laimismilas, or do you want something specific that isn't working?
[07:36] <lupine_85> not necessarily
[07:36] <stefg> !doesn't work
[07:36] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:36] <jbmigel> eaglescout thats awesome
[07:36] <lupine_85> ubuntu-backports violates "ubuntu policy"
[07:36] <lupine_85> your point?
[07:36] <james296> that didnt work...
[07:36] <kalasmannen_> Anyone having problems with VLC after latest updates from Ubuntu? Mine segfaults on startup since last nights updates.. :S
[07:36] <rofl0r> jrib: because there are quite a lot aorund for windows, and i already wrote my own player
[07:36] <jbmigel> eaglescout please backup your files!
[07:36] <laimismilas> i can't play 3d games
[07:36] <jrib> james296: what does 'ls -ld ~/.themes/' return now?
[07:37] <laimismilas> it to slow
[07:37] <eyequeue> lupine_85, security matters are decided by intent
[07:37] <redguy> DB42: perhaps you got the broken X update, did you try to boot into the recovery mode, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[07:37] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: I am! *loves having a ZIP drive*
[07:37] <stefg> DB42: what hardware, what error messages?
[07:37] <lupine_85> sorry? I've no idea what that's meant to mean
[07:37] <jrib> rofl0r: there are a lot of good mp3 players for linux too, that was my point.  Not sure why the sound is not that great, maybe #winehq can help too
[07:37] <aztracker1> laimismilas, not sure, are there specific drivers with accellerated opengl support available for *nix?
[07:37] <DB42> redguy: did it already, didnt help
[07:37] <eyequeue> lupine_85, bring it up with the security team if you disagree
[07:37] <rofl0r> jrib: good idea
[07:37] <RubyTuesday> jrib: thanks -- that let me change the key bindings.  Perhaps related: My mouse focus behavior has changed since a reboot after power outage: when I click in the body of a window the window does not get input focus.  It also fails to come to raise above other windows.  If I select the title bar, I get focus and raise but erratically.  Can you advise?
[07:37] <DB42> stefg: AMD64 (running 32 bit) with nvidia card, error messages ? lots of /dev/crap
[07:37] <james296> no such directory...
[07:37] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a way to tone down the aggression with which cp copies data? I have a lot of data to move on a heavily used multiuser system and I don't want to lock everyone up when I copy it.
[07:38] <eyequeue> LeeJunFan, man nice?
[07:38] <aztracker1> laimismilas, that's a mobile chipset right?  if not, would suggest an offboard nvidia geforce card...
[07:38] <lupine_85> eyequeue: per-system root passwords aren't to do with the security team. having one makes the system no less secure
[07:38] <ZeeZ> hello
[07:38] <ZeeZ> how can i change my hostname ?
[07:38] <zzyber> Can someone help me howto setup my two identical disks as a raid0 in console mode or if you can tip about a suitable guide
[07:38] <jrib> james296: how did you type it exactly?
[07:38] <eyequeue> lupine_85, not on ubuntu, perhaps you should read their writings
[07:38] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: it's not showing my ZIP drive.  where can I back it up to?
[07:38] <lupine_85> ZeeZ: /etc/hostname
[07:38] <laimismilas> no
[07:38] <LeeJunFan> eyequeue: maybe, I think that'll only help for cpu usage, and it's hd I'm worrying about.
[07:38] <james296> ls -ld ~/.themes/
[07:38] <jrib> ZeeZ: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[07:39] <jbmigel> eaglescout do you have a usb key or maybe a blank cd?
[07:39] <laimismilas> it's  on my compiuter
[07:39] <jrib> james296: but it was just there?
[07:39] <lupine_85> eyequeue: ubuntu == linux. If it's made less secure by including a root password, then it's set up wrong. Luckily, it isn't.
[07:39] <DB42> anybody ?
[07:39] <laimismilas> HP compaqnx9020
[07:39] <ZeeZ> jrib, i am new to linux, can you give me more details ?
[07:39] <james296> yeah for some reason now it says no such directory...
[07:39] <james296> weird
[07:39] <lupine_85> but I doubt we're going to agree on this, so you do what you do and I do what I do, and we're both happy
[07:39] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: no and no, but I CAN upload stuff online and get it later.
[07:39] <stefg> DB42: run the foolowing: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install inux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[07:39] <eyequeue> lupine_85, not on ubuntu, again, take it up with the security team
[07:39] <jbmigel> eaglescout then i would do that
[07:39] <redguy> zzyber: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html
[07:40] <jrib> ZeeZ: system > administration > networking: General    <-- use taht instead
[07:40] <DB42> stefg: wont help, i updated all, and i changed to "vesa" still doesnt work
[07:40] <lupine_85> parrot-fashion doesn't work. *why* does having a root password make the computer less secure?
[07:40] <zzyber> redguy: thanks
[07:40] <zdesar> eyequeue: can you tell me what is console web browser, i forgot what is his name, something like lyrix
[07:40] <eyequeue> lupine_85, read
[07:40] <jrib> james296: try your theme again, does it still fail?
[07:40] <lupine_85> lynx
[07:40] <kalasmannen_> zdesar, lynx
[07:40] <stefg> DB42: paste your lspci output to psatebin
[07:40] <eyequeue> zdesar, lynx
[07:40] <aztracker1> laimismilas, okay, for a desktop, the only 3d card with even half way decent drivers is for nvidia geforce chipsets..  ati(radeon) is getting a little better, but not fond of them... the onboard graphics aren't good for gaming in general, and not sure how to help you with drivers for them.
[07:40] <redguy> zdesar: links
[07:40] <lupine_85> eyequeue: I have, and no arguments have convinced me so far...
[07:40] <stefg> DB42: paste your lspci -vv output to psatebin
[07:40] <WinterWeaver> hello
[07:40] <redguy> zdesar: w3m, elinks
[07:40] <DB42> i can't i need to reboot
[07:40] <DB42> and i have nothing there
[07:40] <jrib> RubyTuesday: I'm not sure about your focus problem
[07:41] <jbmigel> eaglescout once your backed up scream and i can help you to reinstall and save your windows partition.
[07:41] <eyequeue> lupine_85, then argue with the security team, not #ubuntu
[07:41] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, I will.
[07:41] <stefg> then  i can't help.
[07:41] <lupine_85> ...but I can think of plenty of reasons as to why having a separate, rarely-used password for admin tasks is more secure than having a frequently-used, user pass for the same ;)
[07:41] <ZeeZ> jrib, thank you
[07:41] <james296> ummm...wtf, it doesnt start the theme manager anymore, I swear I didnt do anything...
[07:41] <DB42> great, nobody here has an idea how to help me out ?
[07:41] <james296> hold on Im going to restart the computer and see ok?
[07:41] <lupine_85> eyequeue: explaining how to set up a root password is the same, policy-wise, as explaining how to set up dapper-backports.
[07:41] <laimismilas> okay thank you...
[07:41] <viller> why can't I change the partition sizes in gparted? There are buttons for it but they do nothing
[07:41] <jrib> james296: ok
[07:41] <eyequeue> lupine_85, again, argue with the security team, not #ubuntu
[07:42] <lupine_85> are you going to tell people not to use dapper-backports?
[07:42] <kalasmannen_> Anyone else having problems with VLC after latest updates from Ubuntu? Mine segfaults on startup since last nights updates..
[07:42] <priich> lupine_85, if it bothers you, just sudo su -        and set a root passwd. problem solved. everyone happy.
[07:42] <DB42> i think X is starting twice both at termianl V7 and V8, where can i check if it's true ?
[07:42] <kaos|STORMCHAS3R> amarok used to be able to read and connect to my ipod,  and now it doesnt,   what do i need for this>?
[07:42] <lupine_85> priich: I've got one. I just object to being shouted at every time I answer a question about it
[07:43] <lupine_85> especially when the shouter is being inconsistent
[07:43] <viller> why can't I change the partition sizes in gparted? There are buttons for it but they do nothing
[07:43] <priich> lupine_85, okidokeli
[07:43] <ladydoor> DB42: do ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a fullscreen terminal, then do ctrl+alt+F8. if you go to X, you've got 2
[07:43] <lupine_85> still, I'll shut up now :)
[07:43] <stefg> kalasmannen_: you know that there's vlc 0.8.5 available from http://nightlies.videolan.org ? I use this and that works fine for me
[07:43] <james296> ok it works again
[07:43] <redguy> DB42: Can you boot off the live CD?
[07:43] <kalasmannen_> stefg, It's what i use ;)
[07:43] <DB42> ladydoor: X doesnt start there is an issue....
[07:43] <ladydoor> lupine_85 ++
[07:43] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Also the 0.8.4 fails
[07:43] <lupine_85> lol
[07:43] <DB42> redguy: hmm.. need to find it, could be, but what would it help ?
[07:43] <viller> why can't I change the partition sizes in gparted? There are buttons for it but they do nothing
[07:44] <ladydoor> DB42: ok. then i don't know
[07:44] <DB42> ladydoor: when i press alt-f7 and alt-f8 i see on both the gdm error
[07:44] <stefg> kalasmannen_: do you use prelink? have you tinkered with your libc6?
[07:44] <ladydoor> viller: you can only resize an unmounted partition.
[07:44] <ladydoor> viller: download the gparted livecd
[07:44] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Not that i know of.. no prelink
[07:44] <james296> still says it
[07:44] <redguy> DB42: yup, you could access your ubuntu partition(s) from there and paste us some log and config files, so that we could help you out
[07:44] <jrib> james296: does ~/.themes exist?
[07:44] <viller> ladydoor: that sucks. I could resize the partitions in use with Partition Magic
[07:44] <DB42> redguy: i see, good call, i'll try to do it later
[07:44] <RubyTuesday> anyone, My mouse focus behavior has changed since a reboot after power outage: when I click in the body of a window the window does not get input focus.  It also fails to come to raise above other windows.  If I select the title bar, I get focus and raise but erratically.  When I changed system/preferences/windows setting to select focus and raise when mouse is over window, THAT worked.  But is annoying -- I want to be able to click and s
[07:44] <kalasmannen_> stefg, The -vvv outputs something about "interface.c"
[07:45] <viller> I don't know why there's so much talk around gparted- it sucks totally
[07:45] <kalasmannen_> stefg, and then segfaults
[07:45] <james296> yes
[07:45] <jrib> james296: ownership?
[07:45] <DB42> i think i saw a forum post sometime, about a faulty X11 update which fucks up X, and a solution for it, no ?
[07:45] <ladydoor> viller: well, i'm so sorry. saying it sucks won't fix it--write your own os.
[07:45] <james296> what?
[07:45] <kalasmannen_> stefg, same thing on both versions too
[07:45] <eyequeue> !language > DB42
[07:45] <stefg> kalasmannen_: hmmm.... then i'd try to tar up the .vlc folder in your home-dir and start wxvlc, to have a clean environment aagin
[07:45] <TehUni> viller: i used it last night to expand my root partition and move my swap. worked beautifully for me.
[07:45] <jrib> james296: ls -ld ~/.themes
[07:45] <lupine_85> viller: it's "possible" to do, but due to several ways in which windows and linux work completely dfferently, doing so is likely to kill the partition
[07:45] <sonorous> trying to setup ipv6 tunnel on ubuntu (installed as server). seeing lots of unusual latency since switching to ubuntu. am I missing something?
[07:45] <lupine_85> and by likely, I mean "almost certainly will"
[07:45] <kalasmannen_> stefg, i'll try that, thanks ;)
[07:45] <james296> yes
[07:46] <stefg> kalasmannen_: that is... make a backup and delete the .vlc folder
[07:46] <jrib> james296: is it still owned by root?
[07:46] <DB42> yeah ok, is ther a post like this ?
[07:46] <eyequeue> sonorous, search "ipv6" on ubuntuforums
[07:46] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Yes, understood
[07:46] <lhds> a good cd / dvd recorder?
[07:46] <james296> no
[07:46] <lupine_85> sonorous: ipv6 is generally laggier than ipv4 since the network isn't as developed yet
[07:46] <james296> I dont think so
[07:46] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Still segfaults
[07:46] <lupine_85> e.g. I clock 10-20ms higher on pings
[07:46] <kalasmannen_> :(
[07:47] <jrib> james296: what was the output from that ls command?
[07:47] <james296> james@james-desktop:~$ ls -ld ~/.themes
[07:47] <james296> drwxr-xr-x 43 root root 4096 2006-09-10 21:22 /home/james/.themes
[07:47] <james296> james@james-desktop:~$
[07:47] <sonorous> sorry, I meant latency on my ipv6 tunnel.
[07:47] <stefg> kalasmannen_: #videolan might be of more help then
[07:47] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Im there right now
[07:47] <redguy> DB42: the soultion was to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:47] <DB42> yeah ok..
[07:47] <DB42> how can i know in the conifg files, if X is starting twice ?
[07:47] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Pretty quiet tho
[07:47] <DB42> i mean in 2 diffrent terminals ?
[07:47] <jrib> james296: ok,   sudo chown james:james ~/.themes
[07:48] <lhds> i need advice about a good cd / dvd recorder software . cuz nero hangz?
[07:48] <jrib> lhds: k3b
[07:48] <lupine_85> gnombaker in gnomwe
[07:48] <james296> it doesnt say anything for that
[07:48] <lupine_85> k3b if you want it :)
[07:48] <lhds> no kde
[07:48] <jrib> lhds: k3b works in gnome too
[07:48] <lhds> gnome  software
[07:48] <lupine_85> (k3b works in gnome, just installs a bunch of extra libraries)
[07:48] <Chousuke> james296: It's not supposed to :)
[07:48] <lilbit> I am trying to install vmware tools, and I am being asked to install GCC, but I dont know what version I need, I guess it depends on my kernel version?  what command console command tells me what kernel I am running?
[07:48] <lupine_85> gnomebaker otherwise
[07:48] <james296> ok
[07:48] <james296> now what
[07:49] <lhds> okay
[07:49] <jbmigel> lhds you are running windows right?
[07:49] <lhds> ill try that
[07:49] <Chousuke> james296: try again, whatver you were doing
[07:49] <jrib> james296: ok, now 'ls -ld ~/.themes' again, what does it say?
[07:49] <lhds> no i am not
[07:49] <james296> how can I just have administrative priveleges to EVERYTHING in Ubuntu?
[07:49] <jbmigel> lhds where did you get nero port/
[07:49] <lhds> nerolinux
[07:49] <stefg> kalasmannen_: does vlc segfault even when you use the command line?... the new skins2 module might cause trouble
[07:49] <Chousuke> james296: you already do, via sudo
[07:49] <eyequeue> james296, very unsafe
[07:49] <jbmigel> lhds thats awesome thanks
[07:49] <DB42> how can i know in my configuration files if my X-windows is setup to run on 2 local displays (:0 and :1) ???
[07:49] <james296> drwxr-xr-x 43 james james 4096 2006-09-10 21:22 /home/james/.themes
[07:49] <eyequeue> !root > james296
[07:49] <lhds> no it does not
[07:49] <lhds> work at all
[07:49] <jrib> james296: alright try your theme again now
[07:49] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Yes, when i use the commandline too
[07:50] <jbmigel> lhds heh ya i just use cdrecord
[07:50] <lupine_85> mmm. running absolutely everything as root would be mildly dangerous ;)
[07:50] <optimusprime> how do I extract a .deb file?
[07:50] <kalasmannen_> stefg, aha.. but it has worked for a good 2 months now, and i haven't touched VLC since i installed it
[07:50] <jrib> optimusprime: dpkg -x
[07:50] <lupine_85> optimusprime: if you have binutils installed, ar -x debfile
[07:50] <eyequeue> optimusprime, extract?
[07:50] <kalasmannen_> stefg, But since yesterday its dead
[07:50] <DB42> anybody got a clue ?
[07:50] <andrea> Hi everybody
[07:50] <redguy> lilbit: the command to know your kernel version is uname -r (uname -a will give you more info), but the package you want to install is most propably build-essential
[07:50] <optimusprime> I downloaded a program....qbittorrent...
[07:51] <stefg> kalasmannen_: i use vlc pretty much, but never saw it segfaulting... without more info i can't tell more then 'works for me', even with a custom kernel
[07:51] <RubyTuesday> anyone, any advice on windows focus problems?
[07:51] <kalasmannen_> stefg, I understand that... Im pretty helpless it feels like.. :(
[07:51] <eyequeue> dpkg-deb (1)         - Debian package archive (.deb) manipulation tool
[07:51] <james296> ok, it worked
[07:51] <kalasmannen_> stefg, I use it a lot too, when it works that is ;)
[07:51] <james296> will it stay like this now?
[07:51] <jrib> optimusprime: are you sure that is not the same as qtorrent in the repositories?
[07:52] <Enverex> Does anyone here have GCC installed and have a end processor? (one of Intels new type or something like an Athlon X2 4400)?
[07:52] <jrib> james296: yes, it should.  Just make sure not to run anything with sudo unless you need to
[07:52] <stefg> kalasmannen_: but I'd check badblocks, broken libc6 and all the common stuff
[07:52] <optimusprime> it says qbittorrent...
[07:52] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Okay, i'll do that
[07:52] <james296> why not?
[07:52] <kalasmannen_> stefg, Thanks for your support man :}
[07:52] <H080J03> ok i want to make it so whenever the ip for myspace.com is being reached it will rediret to some gay porn site
[07:52] <andrea> Does anyone have an ibm or lenovo laptop here?
[07:52] <jrib> james296: because then what just happened to you (root ownership of your user's files) might happen again
[07:52] <eyequeue> james296, root is dangerous, have you not gotten that yet?
[07:53] <DB42> H080J03: install squid
[07:53] <DB42> and use iptables to divert traffic to it
[07:53] <DB42> there are lots of howto guides online
[07:53] <H080J03> thank you a bunch
[07:53] <H080J03> can i password portect the thing?
[07:53] <DB42> sure thing, now anybody can help me out with X ?
[07:53] <Enverex> H080J03: On one machine or many?
[07:53] <H080J03> one
[07:53] <james296> what do you mean by dangerous? you think I dont know what Ijm doing on Ubuntu? I didnt know how to get that working but I dont just change things I dont know around...
[07:54] <Enverex> H080J03: Just change the hosts file. Put in the line "216.178.32.51 whateversite.com"
[07:54] <Enverex> (whatever site is where you want it to redirect to)
[07:55] <james296> how do you guys know alot about these things? alot of research or something?
[07:55] <Graig> hello.
[07:55] <Enverex> H080J03: Oh wait that's the wrong way around
[07:55] <Graig> hey, i saw this ubuntu menu being made, that organized things differently.
[07:55] <andrea> Does anyone have an ibm or lenovo laptop here?
[07:55] <stefg> james296: we all got a box of LEGO when we where kids
[07:55] <jbmigel> james296 http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tech/eta/doc/dilbert.gif
[07:55] <Graig> it was for gnome.
[07:55] <lupine_85> james296: educated guesses, mostly ;)
[07:55] <Enverex> H080J03: Use "ip.of.porn.site myspace.com www.myspace.com"
[07:56] <Graig> and it was like a start menu, that had side tabs and a most used application menu.
[07:56] <Graig> does anyone know what that is?
[07:56] <stefg> KDE
[07:56] <jrib> Graig: this? http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=0b29551ae15ce6b539e9794ebc0a90ef&f=156
[07:56] <H080J03> now what is a really gay and disguting porn site?
[07:56] <DB42> Enverex: they will redirect to 404 most of the time... i dont think thats what he wants
[07:56] <Graig> yeah thats it jrib
[07:56] <H080J03> that loads fast?
[07:56] <rambo3> !locales
[07:56] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:57] <DB42> btw <ubotu> eyequeue wants you to know: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. <-- talking about porn here is ok ? and me saying my linux installation is messed up is forbidden?
[07:57] <Enverex> DB42: Good point... actually I'm sure most porn sites hve things that throw you back to the front page almost immediately
[07:57] <Graig> H080J03: spinmeat.com
[07:57] <eyequeue> DB42, you used the f word, scroll back
[07:57] <DB42> again, and talking about porn is family friendly?
[07:58] <DB42> !fixmyX
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixmyX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <redguy> isn't it?
[07:58] <james296> so, is there an easy way for me to remember how to do that?
[07:58] <lupine_85> mmmmmmmmm porn
[07:58] <Enverex> Everyone loves porn
[07:58] <james296> like a specific site to go to?
[07:58] <SpComb> !fix my X
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix my X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <james296> because I have short term memory loss
[07:58] <priich> DB42, well i think so but i guess others wouldn't agree. Different cultural mindset and all.
[07:58] <eyequeue> DB42, how does that change your usage of the f word?
[07:58] <jbmigel> james296 just come back here till you get the hang of it
[07:58] <DB42> it doesnt, it just shows that you should warn others as well :)
[07:59] <james296> but how did you guys actually figure it out?
[07:59] <DB42> and help me figure out simply X questions, like how do i know where it starts how many displays
[07:59] <H080J03> Graig:thats meatspin
[07:59] <jbmigel> james296 google.
[07:59] <optimusprime> how do you install a .deb package?
[07:59] <james296> lol
[07:59] <eyequeue> DB42, it os not my job to monitor 24/7, i only warn about what i happen to be present for
[07:59] <jrib> james296: probably a combination of reading, previous experience and searching
[07:59] <Rico-> optimusprime: dkpg -i package.deb
[07:59] <jrib> !deb
[07:59] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[07:59] <lupine_85> optimusprime: right-click and hit "install" :)
[07:59] <DB42> you are here and you still didnt warn now...
[07:59] <Rico-> optimusprime: or use gdebi
[07:59] <eyequeue> optimusprime, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[07:59] <DB42> guess you simply dont care :)
[07:59] <Graig> H080J03: ahh, thats what it was, its kinda funny.  especially the music.
[08:00] <james296> isnt it possible to add a Live Chat menu in the System>Help menu?
[08:00] <james296> I remember seein that
[08:00] <eyequeue> DB42, again, if i am not in here, i don't warn
[08:00] <jrib> james296: yeah someone was working on something like that before, not sure what happened to it
[08:00] <eyequeue> DB42, many in here multitask
[08:00] <stefg> james296: there are indeed people using ubuntu on dialup or offline :-)
[08:01] <DB42> i'm just saying you can warn in retrospect, it happend a few min ago ;)
[08:01] <Ge2X> what is the command to copy a file from the terminal
[08:01] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys, can anyone give me a quick answer to a sudo checkinstall problem?
[08:01] <jbmigel> stefg what's "dialup"
[08:01] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: Okay, it's all sending now.  It shouldn't be too long before we re-install.
[08:01] <eyequeue> DB42, read the timestamp on the bot msg, it was 4 minutes ago, when your comment was
[08:01] <DB42> what is a good CONSOLE IRC CLIENT so i can login here in text ?
[08:01] <eyequeue> Ge2X, cp
[08:01] <jbmigel> eaglescout w00t nice to hear it man, im glad you saved your data. probably wont need the backup but it never hurts
[08:01] <stefg> dialup == modem... per per minute
[08:01] <Ge2X> thnx
[08:02] <eyequeue> DB42, irssi, under screen
[08:02] <KanRiNiN> Anyone familiar with checkinstall?
[08:02] <eyequeue> /usr/local/bin/irssi: line 2: /usr/bin/irssi-text: No such file or directory
[08:02] <james296> the thing I love about Ubuntu is there is ALWAYS something new to add to it unlike Windows
[08:02] <Enverex> DB42 irssi or bitchx
[08:02] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: yeah, only 7 files that are really important to me :P  it's taking a while to send because of the size.
[08:02] <james296> and its possible to make it work even better than Windows
[08:02] <x_O> sudo gedit sources.list isn't opening the text editor anymore, and I am in the /apt/ folder. WTF?
[08:02] <ere> I want to mount shared filesystems over NFS on a set op laptops that is not connected to the network all the time. This calls for automount solution, but which one? autofs or amd? anyone have suggestions or can point me to any documentation? I use Dapper
[08:02] <x_O> I just edited it a minute ago, now it's not letting me.. and the file isn't in use.
[08:02] <DB42> ok, thanks
[08:02] <SpComb> DB42: irssi (or bitchx, never tried it) under screen. The screen part is very important
[08:03] <DB42> bitchx i remember, people still use ?
[08:03] <jrib> x_O: does it give you an error?
[08:03] <x_O> no
[08:03] <DB42> why is "screen" important?
[08:03] <dreamwave> dilemmas... buy a new linsys wifi usb (WUSB11) or a used intel (wud 2011b).  opinions?
[08:03] <x_O> Just goes to next promt
[08:03] <eyequeue> bx is vile, bloat and annoying quit msgs
[08:03] <james296> is there a way for me to prevent the password thing from coming up after every 15 minutes is up when I want to open a program?
[08:03] <eyequeue> screen (1)           - screen manager with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation
[08:03] <DB42> i contributed butloads of code / time to the BitchX project, 10 years ago :)
[08:03] <priich> james296, indeed you are correct. I couldn't get my microsoft intellimouse bluetooth explorer to work in windows 2003 but in ubuntu it worked just great. Go figure.
[08:03] <DB42> one of the first open soruce projects i was ni
[08:03] <eyequeue> DB42, detaching, pasting, etc
[08:04] <SpComb> uptime :)
[08:04] <eyequeue> DB42, i'll not insule panasync's lineage in here, but the code is atrocious, i've spent hours in it
[08:04] <DB42> it's ok panasync isnt here :)
[08:04] <grodius> Hey I have a tarball and I need help extracting and installing the program it contains
[08:04] <DB42> is he still working activly on BX ?
[08:04] <james296> so is there?
[08:04] <aztracker1> priich, don't you know that windows won't support non
[08:04] <jrib> grodius: what program?
[08:04] <aztracker1> err.. nm.
[08:04] <eyequeue> DB42, but the CoC is
[08:04] <diezare> hey guys, anyone know where can i find a vmware player image of windows xp?
[08:05] <SpComb> "Irssi uptime: 24d 23h 9m 8s" <-- no need to ever* connect to networks and join channels this way
[08:05] <grodius> jrib: metasploit
[08:05] <scapor> diezare: don't ask these kind of questions here please, it's illegal
[08:05] <aztracker1> diezare, heh... http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/10/26/vmware-player-windows-xp.html
[08:05] <eyequeue> SpComb, :)
[08:05] <jrib> !compile > grodius
[08:05] <scapor> diezare: you can legally create one yourself if you have a valid installation CD.
[08:05] <lhds> verynice software gnomebake
[08:05] <SpComb> although, of course, if you want to use irssi on a box that you shut down at night, irssi is probably fairly useless, it's mainly for remotely running irssi on a server...
[08:05] <aztracker1> diezare, use the same instructions, but use the *nix version of qemu to make the disk image.
[08:06] <zzyber> is it possible to do dpkg-reconfigure for the part where i partition the disks, i did fail when making the soft raid and i need to do it again
[08:06] <aztracker1> diezare, that's how I got it running.
[08:06] <SpComb> screen also lets you keep multiple "windows" open in a single ssh sesison, and lets you attach/detach it from anywhere, which is very convenient
[08:06] <diezare> ok thnx guys
[08:06] <lilbit> redguy, thanks
[08:06] <SpComb> screen is one of those world-saving programs, there should be a "screen appreciation day" :)
[08:07] <lupine_85> I got it installed, and the first thing I did was run cmd.exe... lol
[08:07] <grodius> jrib how do you know if its source, it looks likea  few directories
[08:07] <SpComb> screen awareness and appreciation day, just need to pick a date and buy a domain now
[08:07] <sharperguy> ahh gizmo wont work :(
[08:08] <jrib> grodius: I've never used metasploit, but there are usually INSTALL and README files with info
[08:08] <x_O> ARGH
[08:08] <x_O> I cant edit text files
[08:08] <x_O> gedit refuses to open!
[08:08] <eyequeue> x_O, nano
[08:08] <SpComb> aztracker1: doskey ls=dir
[08:08] <x_O> Tried that
[08:08] <x_O> but I cant select all the text
[08:08] <sharperguy> gizmo: error while loading shared libraries: libdns_sd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:08] <x_O> I want to copy and paste large chunks
[08:08] <jrib> x_O: vim?
[08:08] <eyequeue> x_O, cat
[08:08] <neildarlow> x_O: vi and .,$ :)
[08:09] <grodius> jrib its called an 'svn' does that mean source?
[08:09] <jrib> wine notpad.exe
[08:09] <aztracker1> SpComb, I know that dir is what it is.. just naturally type ls now.
[08:09] <pfein> I'm using the Xubuntu alternate CD.  On my first HD boot, I'm just dropped to a login prompt... no X installed, not even `man`...
[08:09] <x_O> lol @ jrib
[08:09] <lupine_85> svn == subversion
[08:09] <lupine_85> it's a replacement for CVS
[08:09] <priich> aztracker1, you mean on microsoft windows ?  install : http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
[08:09] <Ge2X> what is the command to make file readable to everyone
[08:09] <sharperguy> can you copy the dir program and make it called ls?
[08:10] <jrib> Ge2X: sudo chmod a+r
[08:10] <lupine_85> aztracker1: that's what bat files are for :)
[08:10] <aztracker1> lupine_85, I know, that's what I did...
[08:10] <lupine_85> hehe
[08:10] <aztracker1> mainly when I get on a work pc/server running windows that it's an issue.
[08:10] <lupine_85> that was the first thing I did after my initial linux binge
[08:10] <eyequeue> pfein, sudo apt-get install man-db
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[08:11] <Ubuntu-no-work> ok, i'm in UBUNTU CONSOLE that X doesnt work
[08:11] <Ubuntu-no-work> what should i do in order for you people to help me..
[08:11] <eyequeue> !doesn't work
[08:11] <x_O> argh
[08:11] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:11] <Ubuntu-no-work> i'm DB42
[08:11] <pfein> eyequeue: it seems like the whole 2nd stage of installation just didn't happen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/I386
[08:11] <DB42> X doesnt startup ...
[08:12] <eyequeue> pfein, strange
[08:12] <DB42> it cant be that you forgot all the talk we had before i reboot a few min ago :)
[08:12] <priich> aztracker1, try the link i posted. has less, more, sed, awk , ls, wget etc  and even a sh shell. Very handy when trying to cope with the windows commandshell.
[08:12] <neildarlow> DB42: do the logs in /var/log and ~/ give any clues?
[08:12] <pfein> eyequeue: yeah... any way to kick it off manually?
[08:12] <DB42> could be... i have no idea, what to look for
[08:13] <aztracker1> priich, it's cool, already have that bookmarked...
[08:13] <neildarlow> DB42: ~/.xsession-errors is a good start
[08:13] <eyequeue> pfein, try sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[08:14] <DB42> omg, no terminal C&P
[08:14] <DB42> what is the program name ? gpm ?
[08:14] <eyequeue> pfein, i'd personally go into dselect at that point and tweak what i wanted, but that's me
[08:14] <stefg> DB42: yup gpm
[08:14] <eyequeue> DB42, er, screen
[08:14] <DB42> i ran screen, but still no mouse C&P
[08:15] <DB42> is there a shortcut for it ?
[08:15] <eyequeue> DB42, ^A[ ^A]   how is the mouse a factor?
[08:15] <DB42> sec
[08:15] <neildarlow> eyequeue: for some, the mouse is an essential debugging aid :)
[08:16] <eyequeue> neildarlow, all that mouse stuff just make me hopelessly lost
[08:16] <neildarlow> eyequeue: yeah. he'd be better doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:16] <instabin> what is the web site to paste my error to ?
[08:16] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[08:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:16] <DB42> how do i open a terminal in screen ?
[08:16] <eyequeue> !paste > instabin
[08:16] <ompaul> !ubuntu-il
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-il - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <WinterWeaver> Hello --- Question --- How do I get dual monitors set up??
[08:17] <jbmigel> DB42 ^a C
[08:17] <neildarlow> DB42: Ctrl-A c
[08:17] <eyequeue> !il
[08:17] <ubotu>          
[08:17] <ompaul> !il
[08:17] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[08:17] <stefg> !xinerama
[08:17] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[08:17] <WinterWeaver> Thanks ^_^ !!
[08:17] <instabin> Any one know how to fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23148
[08:17] <DB42> how do i C&P using screen ? ctrl-A[ doesnt help
[08:18] <DB42> how do i mark it
[08:18] <jbmigel> mark it?
[08:18] <DB42> the text to copy..
[08:18] <neildarlow> DB42: you don't. screen just gives you multiple virtual consoles
[08:18] <Vegeta^> How can I install a Printer driver? I tried "Printers - System Setting" but it says I don't have permission, even though I login as root.
[08:18] <SPOPPO> hello
[08:18] <instabin> Im using FreeNX server and can not use automatix or crossover office
[08:18] <eyequeue> DB42, use your  cursor and the space bar
[08:18] <nlindblad> anyone using a HP Photosmart 3210?
[08:18] <DB42> eyequeue: thanks
[08:18] <eyequeue> neildarlow, incorrect
[08:18] <stefg> !automatix > instabin
[08:18] <ladydoor> DB42: space should mark it at one end, and then again at the other end after it's highlighted
[08:19] <instabin> Stefg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23148
[08:19] <instabin> Stefg i have automatix install just can not run it b/c of this error
[08:19] <DB42> ok, how do i paste ?
[08:19] <eyequeue> DB42, be careful to put the cursor where you want it before ^A] 
[08:19] <pfein> eyequeue: hmm, I don't have networking (need PPP), but I do have a CD full of packages, it looks like.
[08:19] <eyequeue> DB42, ^A] 
[08:19] <SPOPPO> tell me
[08:19] <DB42> yeah, got it, how do i paste?
[08:19] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: it didn't send. :/ stupid errors.  I'll be okay.  I have the most important stuff saved on a ZIP drive.  I can always get those from there.
[08:19] <DB42> can i paste here a few lines ? since i have no browser
[08:19] <vprajan> how to find the various ssh clients connected to a ssh server?
[08:20] <jbmigel> eaglescout it shouldnt be hard to mount your zip drive and use it directly
[08:20] <instabin> do you want a windows mac or linux clinet
[08:20] <eyequeue> DB42, lynx works with pastebin
[08:20] <stefg> instabin: that looks like an automatix bug, which should be dealt with in #automatix
[08:20] <ladydoor> neildarlow: screen is an artifact of rare and ancient power--in other words, it's crazy-cool--read the documentation
[08:20] <ladydoor> DB42: use links
[08:20] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, but I don't know how to mount a ZIP drive in Linux, only Windows.
[08:20] <instabin> stefg im using freenx server the error only happens on it
[08:20] <eyequeue> "rare and ancient power" :))
[08:20] <instabin> if i log in to console it works
[08:20] <krpano> guys....how do i check if my wireless card is working properly ?
[08:20] <neildarlow> ladydoor: i use screen but only to cope with SSH-session breakage :)
[08:21] <DB42> i dont have lynx/links installed, blah...
[08:21] <stefg> instabin: that's still an automatix bug, which should be dealt with in #automatix
[08:21] <eyequeue> neildarlow, man screen some day, then ^A?
[08:21] <eyequeue> DB42, sudp apt-get install lynx
[08:21] <ladydoor> neildarlow: ah...haha, it's basically my desktop environment
[08:21] <neildarlow> eyequeue: i'm not that interested :)
[08:21] <DjDarkman`> can someone tell me all existing dependencies of amarok ,because I have to download and take the packagees home?
[08:21] <tamacracker> Hey what's up guys?
[08:21] <ladydoor> neildarlow: *except for the conkeror webbrwowser
[08:22] <instabin> stefg samething happens with crossover office
[08:22] <eyequeue> neildarlow, well, don't tell people what screen doesn't do then :)  it does everything useful, heh
[08:22] <rofl0r> how can i use isapnp or isapnpconf in ubuntu 6 ?
[08:22] <skizzo> Do you guys know of any ubuntu-friendly FTP servers? I'm looking for something with it's own user management, some form of GUI, and I don't want it to use the built-in user accounts
[08:22] <jbmigel> eaglescout it is alot like mounting the ntfs partition. is it a usb device or is it internal
[08:22] <tamacracker> I have a question, relating to AmaroK and being able to play mp3s
[08:22] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: USB
[08:22] <eyequeue> !mp3 > tamacracker
[08:22] <jbmigel> eaglescout plug it in
[08:22] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay
[08:23] <jbmigel> eaglescout is it powered on?
[08:23] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: yes
[08:23] <skizzo> I've tried protftpd, and pureftpd, and they both use the user accounts (and don't work at all with external accounts)
[08:23] <jbmigel> eaglescout run dmesg and see if the last couple lines are relevant
[08:24] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: wait.. It just popped up. o_o
[08:24] <er4z0r> my orinocco wireless card (pcmcia) won't associate with my AP
[08:24] <jbmigel> eaglescout yes well that makes it easier
[08:24] <jbmigel> eaglescout :)
[08:24] <er4z0r> I can set essid and wep-key but it just won't assoc
[08:24] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay, I've got it now! xP *is a dork* it wasn't plugged in all the way.
[08:25] <jbmigel> eaglescout heh i guess we shoulda tried this before you spent all that time backup internet
[08:25] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: xP yeah.  It's okay, I have nothing else to do right now. :P
[08:26] <Ravennoir> hi
[08:26] <skizzo> no ftp daemon suggestions? That sucks :-\
[08:26] <tamacracker> I have the Xine plug in... win codecs... gstream all installed
[08:26] <Ravennoir> I would like to install linux on an external harddrive...to use it as a portable system like lice cds... do I need to make adjustments? Is there a hardware check each time I boot the system?
[08:26] <tamacracker> XMMS plays the mp3s but I'd like to play them on AmaroK
[08:27] <neildarlow> skizzo: what do you want to do? authenticate outside of /etc/passwd?
[08:27] <ravenous> tamacracker: and you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[08:27] <skizzo> neildarlow, yes - I'm looking for an FTP daemon that doesn't use /etc/passwd, and has a GUI
[08:28] <tamacracker> i don't think i have libxine-extracodecs installed
[08:28] <ravenous> tamacracker: thats whats required for amarok to play mp3
[08:28] <finalbeta>  sox -v 0.12 -w -c 2 -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -c 2 -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp <<< Can I create an alias so I can easly change sound for my TV card? like "tvsound value" The value should replace the 0.12.
[08:28] <neildarlow> skizzo: dont' know about the GUI part (unless webmin qualifies) but I'd have thought that and ftp daemon could be tailored via PAM
[08:28] <tamacracker> may i have the code or the site to get those codecs please
[08:28] <instabin> stefg: it is not a problem in automatix
[08:29] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay.  done. :P so much faster.
[08:29] <jbmigel> eaglescout nice
[08:29] <jbmigel> eaglescout so you have backed up everything you want off that pc?
[08:29] <ravenous> tamacracker: uh its its the repos, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:29] <instabin> stefg: automatix runs fine if i run it at the server directly but if i run it in a freenx term it gives me the error
[08:29] <tamacracker> ok >.>
[08:29] <tamacracker> ill check it out
[08:29] <Jug> how can I remove all those init.d scripts that are left from those packages that I have already removed?
[08:30] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: yes.  If we can save the other stuff, great, but if not, I'll live. xD
[08:30] <trelayne> hi all, just installed Ubuntu and I would like to install php4 and not php5. Anyone know how to force it to do that?
[08:30] <tamacracker> ok it installed, do i need to configure amaroK? or will it play the mp3s automatically?
[08:30] <trelayne> Right now it forces php5 installation
[08:30] <instabin> stefg: I get the same error when i try to setup cross over office in a nx term
[08:30] <jbmigel> eaglescout we can probably save the windows partition, but we will delete all your ubuntu stuff and reinstall... good enough?
[08:31] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: absolutley fine.  I don't have anything important on Ubuntu.
[08:31] <skizzo> neildarlow: I've come across a few ftp daemons that *can* use various methods, but anything in synaptic package manager uses built-in accounts. I don't want to use the built-in *nix user accounts - I want to be able to define virtual users
[08:31] <jbmigel> eaglescout ok im going to open a pm chat so we dont get lost
[08:31] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay
[08:31] <lilbit> I have a dapper server running that a now gone admin set up, and it does some mail stuff, so how can I see what all is running on this server?
[08:31] <lilbit> am I looking to view running services?
[08:31] <lilbit> am I looking to view running or daemons?
[08:31] <neildarlow> skizzo: if you use nsswitch you can authenticate via other media e.g. mysql, LDAP etc.
[08:32] <tamacracker> revenous!!! YOU ROCK!!!!
[08:32] <ravenous> tamacracker: glad it worked ;)
[08:32] <akemi> bah.. my eth0 is up .. andn configured.. but status is showing disconnected. any ideas?
[08:32] <tamacracker> Goodness, no one for the last 2 days haven't been able to help me
[08:32] <instabin> Is there some one here who could help me with my FreeNX problem
[08:32] <tamacracker> and that's all that it was :)
[08:32] <skizzo> neildarlow: how do you change the switch in /etc/init.d/ ?
[08:32] <tamacracker> thank you soo much ravenous :)
[08:32] <ravenous> tamacracker: no problem
[08:32] <neildarlow> skizzo: what switch are you talking about?
[08:33] <skizzo> neildarlow: oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to a command-line switch...
[08:33] <jbmigel> eaglescout meh it's not working... we can do it here.
[08:33] <_azrael> Hey, I just got some usb speakers, and while the buttons on them work (The volup/voldown has an effect on the computer) I can't seem to get sound to come out of them instead of the laptop's built in speakers. Any ideas?
[08:33] <neildarlow> skizzo: /etc/nsswitch.conf defines the order for doing auth lookups
[08:33] <eaglescout> jbmiguel: okay.  I hopefully won't get lost... unless you have YIM, AIM or MSN.
[08:34] <jbmigel> eaglescout could you maybe just start spelling my name right, without the "u" so the text shows red
[08:34] <skizzo> neildarlow: Ah, okay, that would make more sense - is this file for linux in general, or for proftpd?
[08:34] <gymac> question:  Ubuntu is based on Debian, yea?  So is there anything Debian can do that Ubuntu can't do?  Are there any downsides to switching from Debian to Ubuntu?
[08:34] <_azrael> One more piece of information--speakers are being recognized by /dev/dsp1, as verified by cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp1. Does anyone know how to switch this over to application default?
[08:34] <eaglescout> jbmigel: sorry, I didn't notice I was messing it up. x_x
[08:35] <jbmigel> eaglescout much better, now run sudo fdisk /dev/hda and then "p"rint the table and tell me how many partitions are there
[08:35] <rambo3> gymac, go offtopic
[08:35] <neildarlow> skizzo: it hooks in below the application level. if you like, it's systemwide
[08:35] <skizzo> neildarlow: Okay, thank you :-)
[08:36] <MNKent1> I am having problems with sending email.
[08:36] <ech0> ok i might be retarded and all but isn't GCC a c compiler?
[08:36] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay, it only shows 1.
[08:36] <rambo3> ech0, yes
[08:36] <neildarlow> ech0: GCC is the GNU Compiler Colletion
[08:37] <neildarlow> ech0: s/colletion/collection/
[08:37] <jbmigel> eaglescout hit "p" and tell me how many rows it shows like /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2
[08:37] <spidermaniako> :p
[08:37] <ech0> so how come this program keeps telling me that i need a C compiler
[08:37] <jbmigel> ech0 sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:37] <ravenous> ech0: are you compiling it?
[08:37] <eaglescout> jbmigel: only one.
[08:38] <ech0> damnit
[08:38] <ech0> thank you
[08:38] <jbmigel> eaglescout is that our /dev/hda1 one listed there?
[08:38] <spidermaniako> jaja
[08:38] <eaglescout> jbmigel: yes
[08:38] <jbmigel> eaglescout so there is no listing for any linux partitions?
[08:38] <ChaosFan> neildarlow: gcc is gnu compiler collection _and_ gnu c compiler, depends on the context
[08:38] <eaglescout> jbmigel: nope.
[08:39] <jbmigel> eaglescout thats great! click the install icon on your desktop
[08:39] <LuisMendes> Please, I need help to compile Cedega from the CVS source... but I have no experience in CVS :(
[08:39] <DB42> which is the most friendliest "links" pastebin ?
[08:39] <jbmigel> eaglescout answer the questions and when it asks you about disk partitions tell it to "use largest available free space"
[08:39] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay.
[08:40] <krpano> DO i need to install some drivers to make this Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG w/ Bluetooth work ?......
[08:40] <jbmigel> eaglescout go slowly, you dont want to overwrite your windows drive
[08:40] <DB42> is there a pastebin where i can upload a text file
[08:40] <ravenous> !pastebin
[08:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:41] <heix> hi
[08:41] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay, will that make it to where I can't save anything on my windows? (because that is 230GB, and I only want linux to save to a secondary, 9GB hard drive.)
[08:41] <trelayne> how do I set up the root password on a new install of ubuntu?
[08:41] <heix> give me some good sourse list.
[08:41] <Lattyware> I know this isn't a channel for python, but there is a chance someone will know, so, Is there any equivalent to the PHP 'include();' in python? As in loading in other files as if they were part of the code?
[08:41] <DB42> ravenous: : it doesnt allow uploading text files...
[08:41] <jbmigel> eaglescout slowly now
[08:41] <neildarlow> ChaosFan: my statement is definitive. google GCC
[08:41] <ravenous> DB42: ... copy and paste the text into it
[08:41] <jbmigel> eaglescout you have 2 hard disks? and want to install uibuntu to the second one?
[08:41] <eaglescout> jbmigel: yes.
[08:41] <DB42> yeah, but i want to upload, it's a LONG TEXT and i'm no a terminal
[08:42] <caseyomah> Is there a package for mp3+g playing (mp3+cdg file sets)
[08:42] <covOPprometheus> hello fellows, can anyone help me with some cdrom issue?
[08:42] <jbmigel> eaglescout ok then we have to take a step back... and run sudo fdisk /dev/hdb to look at your other drive
[08:42] <ravenous> DB42: thats what pastebin is for, and what does it matter if your not in a terminal?
[08:42] <mythtv> le forum d?conne ...
[08:42] <DB42> it's saner in X
[08:43] <heix> give me  some good  sources.list for kubuntu please
[08:43] <ladydoor> !fr
[08:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:43] <ladydoor> does anybody know how to use bplay? the manual is nonexistant and the help fails to tell what any of the commandline switches do.
[08:44] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay... it says something about building a sun disklabel.  what do I do?
[08:44] <ladydoor> *i want to use it to record audio that'll be fed in from a mic
[08:44] <jbmigel> eaglescout what is saying that? fdisk?
[08:45] <eaglescout> jbmigel: yes, and now it's saying a LOT of messages that all say "Select type (1 for auto, 0 for custom):"
[08:45] <YogSothoth> I installed Murine from here: http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/download.php What am I supposed to do to enable it
[08:45] <finalbeta> Why is : echo $[20,0/100,0]  == 0 ?
[08:45] <ech0> this program is telling me that i need to add a "--with-libevent-dir" but i am not sure what to type
[08:45] <pooh_beawr> when it comes to using Source-O-Matic... are there repo's there that will ruin my installation or should I feel free to experiment.?
[08:45] <ech0> i have libevent1
[08:45] <jbmigel> eaglescout his ctrl-c and leave fdisk please
[08:45] <eaglescout> okay
[08:46] <jbmigel> eaglescout that second drive is 9GB? is there anything important on it?
[08:46] <eaglescout> nope, only the Linux stuff that isn't working. :/
[08:46] <caseyomah> Can someone help me install singit and xmms-singit-plugin? it depends on dbus-1 and Ubuntu has dbsu so it fails dependancy even though it's the same package.
[08:46] <DB42> i can't paste with GPM into LINKS ?!?
[08:47] <rambo3> !info dbus-1
[08:47] <ubotu> Package dbus-1 does not exist in any distro I know
[08:47] <caseyomah> !info dbus
[08:47] <jbmigel> eaglescout ok then just run the installer, and tell it to install to /dev/hdb please make sure you say /hdb and not /hda which is your windows.... anyway tell it to "use entire disk" on /hdb and it should overwrite everything
[08:47] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 316 kB, installed size 700 kB
[08:48] <MNKent1> I am having a problem with my email.
[08:48] <MNKent1> Sending it.
[08:48] <DB42> i can't paste with GPM into LINKS ?!? god, this ubuntu is conspiring against me, i want X to work :(
[08:48] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay, I see the options, and it's on hdb and erase entire disk, right? I just want to be sure. :)
[08:48] <jbmigel> eaglescout yes that sounds right... /dev/hdb and use entire disk
[08:49] <caseyomah> Any way to make dbus fill the dependancy for dbus-1?
[08:49] <eaglescout> okay, it's at the install page with all of the info
[08:49] <jbmigel> eaglescout once it has finished reinstalling you should be able to boot both windows and ubuntu
[08:49] <ladydoor> DB42: gpm? also, with screen you can *definitely paste into links
[08:49] <MNKent1> My email hangs for attachments.
[08:49] <DB42> guess ill do it
[08:50] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay, I'll let you know how it goes, and hopefully from Windows! :D
[08:50] <jbmigel> eaglescout hopefully from ubuntu :P
[08:50] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay xD  as long as I can access my windows, i'll be happy.
[08:50] <covOPprometheus> hello fellows, can anyone help me with some cdrom issue?
[08:50] <instabin> Any one free to help me with a problem?
[08:50] <DB42> ladydoor: it pasted only partly.... i copied a page, and it pasted only 3 lines from it in links... (via screen) what am i doing it wrong?
[08:51] <jbmigel> eaglescout yes it is hard sometimes, later you can look into QEMU which lets you run windows inside linux... then you can work on your school stuff and not have to reboot
[08:51] <TheGateKeeper> instabin: just ask your question
[08:51] <eaglescout> jbmigel: that would be awesome. :D
[08:51] <instabin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23148 its a problem with running some apps in nx server
[08:51] <ladydoor> DB42: oh...hm. i don't know, actually. it could be something with the page you're at in links, or it could be something else. try pasting it into nano and see if it works
[08:52] <DB42> ladydoor: doesnt work as well
[08:52] <instabin> occures when running automatix and crossover office so far.
[08:52] <eice> anyone know when the new atheros hal will be released?
[08:52] <eaglescout> jbmigel: should I close the terminal during install, or leave it open?
[08:52] <ladydoor> DB42: ah...you may need to re-copy the page, or do it in smaller increments
[08:52] <DB42> gr88888888888 :(
[08:52] <jbmigel> eaglescout just leave it be until it asks to reboot.
[08:52] <DB42> 100$ to whoever fixes my X :)
[08:52] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay.
[08:52] <DB42> without requiring my to paste stuff
[08:53] <eice> i'll fix your x.. reinstall
[08:53] <eice> where's my $100?
[08:53] <DB42> gr8.. i need this copy to work
[08:53] <instabin> DB42: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:54] <DB42> instabin: : tried, didnt work
[08:54] <instabin> DB42 do you get an error
[08:54] <DB42> instabin: yes, that GPM doesnt work..
[08:54] <deybyd> k
[08:54] <MNKent1> Does anyone know about email sending problems?
[08:54] <EVRAMP> I have in web browser address "rgwarsow://%20213.239.200.94:44400" How to set: Open this type of address with.. ??? Thanx
[08:54] <jbmigel> DB42 gdm?
[08:54] <DB42> the error log is big, and i cant paste it in pastebin in terminal
[08:54] <DB42> GDM.. yeah
[08:55] <eice> doesnt look like any address I've ever seen
[08:55] <jbmigel> DB42 do you get command line interface?
[08:55] <DB42> i am in it now
[08:55] <EVRAMP> :p its executing address for Warsow game eice
[08:55] <DB42> and i hate it :)
[08:55] <jbmigel> can you "startx"
[08:55] <quiet> whare do i set the 'server's fully qualified domain name' for apache2?
[08:55] <rambo3> $calc(100$)
[08:55] <EVRAMP> like irc://....
[08:56] <quiet> in apache2.conf or in the sites-available/ file?
[08:56] <caseyomah> My ubuntu says that apache2 is installed, but I can't find it.
[08:56] <DB42> jbmigel: : sec
[08:56] <DB42> yes "startx" works
[08:57] <jbmigel> DB42 thats good.
[08:57] <instabin> DB42: do you have gui now?
[08:57] <DB42> cool !!!!!!!! :)
[08:57] <DB42> yeah
[08:57] <jbmigel> DB42 how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm now
[08:57] <DB42> but how do i fix GDM
[08:57] <Pete_> good evening :)
[08:57] <DB42> sec
[08:57] <MNKent1> Okay.
[08:57] <deybyd> f
[08:57] <deybyd> f
[08:58] <jbmigel> DB42 after your reconfig gdm you need to ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[08:58] <DB42> i know
[08:58] <Pete_> a short question: is it possible to limit opening windows to my main screen (i use 2 :p ) ???
[08:59] <holzmodem> hi trying to configure Galde3, what wrong here, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23153, i installed all packages, i hope....
[08:59] <thephunkizm> can anyone tell me how to go about uninstalling an extension from firefox without loading the browser?  (the extension causes firefox to lock up..)
[08:59] <PingunZ> Hey, I want all the music in my /home/kristof/Music dir that is *.m4a converted to *.mp3
[09:00] <instabin> ./cxsetup:error: error initializing Tk: 'this isn't a Tk applicationunknown colo r name "Black"'. Check the DISPLAY variable (unix:1000.0) and your access permis sions (see xauth or xhost).
[09:00] <PingunZ> Any way to do that ?
[09:00] <ladydoor> PingunZ: here's a nice little script to convert to wav
[09:00] <ladydoor> PingunZ: let me put it in pastebin
[09:00] <ladydoor> !paste
[09:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:00] <PingunZ> ok ladydoor
[09:01] <PingunZ> ladydoor, where's the script ? :)
[09:01] <Pete_> okay, i have to go ... ignore my question, i'll use a mailing-list :)
[09:01] <Pete_> bye bye
[09:01] <caseyomah> It was lying, I'm installing now.
[09:01] <ladydoor> PingunZ: i'm putting it in pastebin for you
[09:01] <PingunZ> thanks ladydoor :)
[09:01] <MNKent1> Do you know a lot about Ubuntu?
[09:01] <DB42> jbmigel: i did reconfigure gdm, and still no go
[09:02] <_azrael> PingunZ: for in in /home/kristof/Music/*; do ffmpeg -i $i -a acodec mp3 -ac 2 -ab 128 $i.mp3
[09:02] <_azrael> PingunZ: for in in /home/kristof/Music/*; do ffmpeg -i $i -a acodec mp3 -ac 2 -ab 128 $i.mp3; done;
[09:02] <_azrael> (Forgot the done; in the first one.
[09:02] <DB42> for in or for i ?
[09:02] <thephunkizm> anybody?  can i just go to a particular file and delete some command lines from it to uninstall a firefox add-on?
[09:02] <jbmigel> DB42 does it produce an error?
[09:02] <DB42> jbmigel: i guess so, where do i see it ?
[09:02] <ladydoor> PingunZ: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23155
[09:02] <_azrael> Hwoops, I meand for i in
[09:02] <PingunZ> _azrael, there are subfolders in the dir too ..
[09:02] <DB42> ahh, /dev/wacom doesnt exist
[09:03] <ladydoor> PingunZ: ok, so copy that into a new textfile called m4a2wav and put it either in ~/bin or in /usr/local/bin
[09:03] <_azrael> PingunZ: OK, then chekc ladydoor's script, mebbe it'll do that.
[09:03] <ladydoor> PingunZ: and then do chmod +x to give it execute permissions
[09:03] <PingunZ> ladydoor, I know, but will it handle subfolders ?
[09:03] <instabin> could Some one help me with these 2 errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23156
[09:03] <ech0> how would one find the libevent directory?
[09:03] <ladydoor> PingunZ: i don't know.
[09:03] <PingunZ> cause its /Music/Artist/Album/track.m4a
[09:04] <jbmigel> DB42 look in /var/log//var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:04] <ladydoor> PingunZ: i've only ever used it on small #s of files...
[09:04] <ladydoor> PingunZ: you should probably listen to _azrael
[09:04] <rodnic> has anyone gotten radeon 9200 works fine with 3d support enable?
[09:04] <optimusprime> I want to upgrade Mplayer....how would I go about doing that?
[09:05] <DB42> jbmigel: ok, i removed wacom i think Xorg.log is error free now
[09:05] <thephunkizm> irc is my last hope for help on this, since i cannot open a browser to look it up =(
[09:05] <jbmigel> wow im running xorg7.0!
[09:05] <jbmigel> DB42 cool. the $100 question is does it run?
[09:06] <DB42> no...
[09:06] <DB42> as i said, no
[09:06] <DB42> (gnome-panel:6547): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `$Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
[09:06] <DB42> in ~/.xsession-errors
[09:06] <jbmigel> DB42 1 sec
[09:06] <_azrael> PingunZ: for i in /home/kristof/Music/*/*/*; do ffmpeg -i $i -a acodec mp3 -ac 2 -ab 128 $i.mp3; done;
[09:06] <_azrael> PingunZ: If you adhered strictly to the directory structure you mentioned, this will work.
[09:07] <DB42> btw, i didnt say which 100$ :)
[09:07] <DB42> noob-saibot = tobias-boon
[09:07] <MNKent1> ping
[09:08] <jbmigel> DB42 btw, your problem isnt fixed yet
[09:08] <thephunkizm> nevermind my question.  i'll get on the internet from a different computer to look it up........
[09:08] <ladydoor> thephunkizm: wait
[09:08] <_azrael> PingunZ: Did that work?
[09:08] <ladydoor> thephunkizm: why can't you use a browser? you've got an internet connection
[09:09] <DB42> i know
[09:09] <DB42> ohh, i think it's XGL issue now
[09:09] <covOPprometheus> hello fellows, can anyone help me with some cdrom issue?
[09:09] <thephunkizm> the browser is locked up
[09:09] <DB42> did compiz change their responetories ?!?
[09:09] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay, it's 93% done installing. :D  It should be long before we find out if it works. :)
[09:09] <thephunkizm> when it loads, it completely freezes
[09:09] <jbmigel> eaglescout im pretty confident
[09:10] <thephunkizm> omg.  this time it decided not to freeze up!!  i'll go ahead and uninstall the add-on now while i can
[09:10] <rodnic> helo folks!,Why the 3d not works with radeon 9200 (ubuntu dapper kernel 2.6.15)?
[09:10] <thephunkizm> lol.. sorry.  but thanks lady =)
[09:10] <ladydoor> thephunkizm: sweet! np.
[09:10] <jbmigel> rodnic what does "glxinfo | grep direct" return
[09:10] <eaglescout> jbmigel: so am I. :D  just wondering... with that program, can I completley access my Windows hard drive from Linux, or just selected files?
[09:11] <rodnic> jbmigel, returns indirects
[09:11] <rodnic> lsmod  | grep fglrx fglrx                 403116  0
[09:11] <rodnic> agpgart                37072  2 fglrx,via_agp
[09:11] <jbmigel> eaglescout actually i was thinking and with QEMU you need to reinstall windows... so it's not a good option for you. I think you might be stuck with reboots
[09:11] <Zukero> hi
[09:12] <eaglescout> jbmigel: that's fine then :D  I'll be okay. Linux is more of a latenight/weekend OS for me anyway. :P
[09:12] <Zukero> i'm having trouble using ndiswrapper on breezy
[09:12] <DB42> brb
[09:13] <Zukero> related to the default gcc version being 3.3
[09:13] <ladydoor> Zukero: have you considered upgrading to dapper...?
[09:13] <Zukero> and ndiswrapper requires 3.4
[09:13] <ladydoor> Zukero: also, you can install gcc-3.4
[09:13] <Zukero> ladydoor, yeah
[09:13] <lupine_85> Zukero: the kernel is compiled with 3.4 on dapper
[09:13] <ladydoor> Zukero: it's in the repos
[09:13] <Zukero> ladydoor, i have it installed
[09:13] <jbmigel> eaglescout yes i just hope your experiments dont cost you your files! remember your backups
[09:14] <lupine_85> so just export CC=gcc-3.4 beforehand and you should be fine
[09:14] <lupine_85> dapper is much better though :)
[09:14] <Zukero> ladydoor, i simlinked gcc to gcc-3.4 instead of 3.3, but when i modprobe ndiswrapper, it tells me the module is invalid
[09:14] <eaglescout> jbmigel: so do I!  yep, my backups are ready. xP  most of my files are just freeware programs and music files, and I can always rip the CDs again. :D
[09:15] <Zukero> ladydoor, and the drom drive on that old comp is only 2x
[09:15] <Zukero> ladydoor, no way i'll redo the full install
[09:15] <rodnic> jbmigel I not understand why ubuntu cannot enable direct rendering.... the driver is loaded  sucefully
[09:15] <ladydoor> Zukero: errr...ok. did you do the modprobe as root?
[09:15] <jbmigel> rodnic you have a 9200?
[09:15] <Zukero> ladydoor, sure
[09:15] <ladydoor> Zukero: also, did you install the drivers before doing modprobe?
[09:15] <Zukero> ladydoor, i'll paste the err msg
[09:16] <ladydoor> Zukero: you're going to have to ask someone else. i'm sorry
[09:16] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay, it's done installing. :D  restart, right?
[09:16] <Zukero> ladydoor, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[09:16] <jbmigel> eaglescout yes talk to you soon!
[09:16] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay!
[09:16] <rodnic> jbmigel yeap! 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200]  (rev 01)
[09:16] <rodnic> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200]  (Secondary) (rev 01)
[09:16] <Jimmey> Can I run X on two ttys simultaneously
[09:16] <Jimmey> ?
[09:16] <Zukero> ladydoor, and dmesg complains about the module being compiled w/ gcc3.3
[09:17] <Zukero> ladydoor, oh, damn. thx anyway
[09:17] <AinoTenshi> Hello!
[09:17] <jbmigel> rodnic that card is supported since xorg6.9 you dont need to install any drivers
[09:17] <Jimmey> What about if he needs 3D acceleration?
[09:17] <Jimmey> !ati
[09:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <ryan_> anyone know of a goood avi converter
[09:17] <Jimmey> rodnic, try that.
[09:17] <Zukero> lupine_85, basically, if my kernel is compiled w/ gcc-3.3 i can't use a module compiled by gcc-3.4
[09:18] <Zukero> ??
[09:18] <jbmigel> the free xorg drivers in v6.9 fully supportati 9200 cards
[09:18] <Jimmey> ryan_, try "apt-cache search avi convert" in a terminal
[09:18] <jbmigel> 3d and all
[09:18] <Jimmey> Oic
[09:18] <rodnic> Thanks folks,but  the direct rendering is  not enable
[09:19] <jbmigel> rodnic i would change driver back to ati and then see
[09:19] <Jimmey> !ati > rodnic
[09:19] <rodnic> I reported in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254797
[09:20] <Zukero> if my kernel is compiled w/ gcc-3.3 , can't I use a module compiled by gcc-3.4 ????
[09:20] <Jimmey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, rodnic
[09:20] <jbmigel> rodnic why do you have 2 device sections in your xorg file?
[09:21] <Jimmey> jbmigel, maybe he's got an onboard intel Chip aswell as his ATI
[09:21] <rodnic> I remove the section ati
[09:22] <jbmigel> rodnic oh, im telling you if you change fglrx to ati and then restart X you should have direct rendering
[09:22] <tamacracker> Does anyone know if Ubuntu is able to install Bearshare?
[09:22] <tamacracker> or if there's a linux version?
[09:22] <Jimmey> tamacracker, try nicotine for downloading MP3s, or emule, or something.
[09:22] <Jimmey> *-)
[09:22] <rodnic> jbmigel Thanks, I can test this
[09:22] <chinny> hi - have just moved over to ubuntu and am looking for a terminal to console into cisco switches with. I've installed minicom but don't know how to find out what my com1 port is under linux. Any pointers would be appreciated.
[09:22] <Jimmey> Try "apt-cache search p2p" in a terminal, tamacracker
[09:23] <tamacracker> thanks Jimey
[09:23] <Rondom> tamacracker: I recommend sharaza, wich runs using wine
[09:23] <rodnic> jbmigel The fglrx should be removed?
[09:23] <Rondom> tamacracker: there's some issue with the menu, but everything else works (including minimizin to tray etc)
[09:23] <jbmigel> rodnic just chand the driver section to read "ATI" and not "FGLRX"
[09:24] <Alam_Ubuntu> what is this /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:24] <Jimmey> Actually, tamacracker, try "apt-cache search peer to peer"
[09:24] <rodnic> jbmigel Ok Thanks! Im going now for tests
[09:24] <jbmigel> rodnic good luck
[09:24] <tamacracker> ok :)
[09:24] <AinoTenshi> anybody know Where I found the DVD version of ubuntu in Brazil
[09:24] <jbmigel> AinoTenshi under a rock?
[09:24] <gouchi> Hi
[09:25] <gouchi> does someone arrive to use linux-uvc ?
[09:25] <tamacracker> forgvie me... but what's the command i type into the terminal to download a file?
[09:26] <gouchi> I have the same problem here : http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.uvc.devel/150
[09:26] <AinoTenshi> anybody know Where I found the DVD version of ubuntu in south america?
[09:26] <gouchi> tamacracker : wget ?
[09:26] <jbmigel> AinoTenshi hanging from a tree?
[09:26] <Jimmey> gouchi, what if he doesn't already have Linux/wget?
[09:26] <Jimmey> jbmigel, why not just - Help/
[09:26] <chinny> am a newbie - how do i find what my com1 port is under ubuntu please - trying to configure minicom
[09:26] <arkangelp> Hello ppl
[09:26] <jbmigel> Jimmey i though he was playing a game
[09:27] <Jimmey> AinoTenshi, are you having issues downloading it?
[09:27] <graft> there's multithreaded command-line downloaders that are much better, like aget or axel, if you don't need wget's versatility
[09:27] <graft> s/much better/much faster/
[09:27] <AinoTenshi> Jimmey I don't have internet connection
[09:27] <lupine_85> chinny: it's probably /dev/ttyS0
[09:28] <arkangelp> I have a question .. i just added a line on my source.list   and when I try to update my all my deb  it shows me an error message it saids:  sudo apt-get update
[09:28] <arkangelp> ep: Malformed line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[09:28] <arkangelp> anyone knows why?
[09:28] <lupine_85> (that's COM1 - com2 is /dev/tttys1)
[09:28] <Jimmey> AinoTenshi, then I don't think you're able to get the DVD version, try http://shipit.ubuntu.coim
[09:28] <Jimmey> * http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:28] <tamacracker> should the command be wget nicotine  in the terminal?
[09:28] <Joe_Terror> the distribution is wrong. what's the line?
[09:28] <lupine_85> arkangelp: post the line in question
[09:28] <graft> arkangelp: um, try showing us line 35 and maybe we could tell you
[09:28] <Jimmey> tamacracker, "sudo apt-get install nicotine"
[09:28] <Zukero> is it possible to upgrade from hoary to dapper diretly using the apt method ? or do I need to go from hoary to breezy, then to dapper ??
[09:28] <arkangelp> how can I know which one is the line 35 do I have to count it one by one?
[09:28] <AinoTenshi> Jimmey, on the shipit site, only have the CD Version
[09:28] <Jimmey> tamacracker, or search for it with Synaptic Package Manager, and download it that way
[09:29] <tamacracker> JImey, just a quick question, is there a site that has all the different commands for the terminal?
[09:29] <Jimmey> AinoTenshi, unfortunately so, I'm not sure they can send the DVD versions
[09:29] <jbmigel> Zukero i would take baby steps
[09:29] <lupine_85> Zukero: incremental is guaranteed to work
[09:29] <Joe_Terror> in pico, do ctrl w, ctrl t, and type 35
[09:29] <Zukero> k, will do so then...
[09:29] <arkangelp> ok
[09:29] <rodnic> Hello folks! It works ! Thanks jbmigel
[09:29] <Zukero> thx
[09:29] <lupine_85> all at once "might" work, but... yeah
[09:29] <chinny> ah - thanks very much  lupine_85 - will give it a spin.
[09:29] <eaglescout> jbmigel: okay, it installed and it's running perfect!! :D THANK YOU!!!
[09:29] <jbmigel> rodnic glad to hear it
[09:29] <jbmigel> w00t eaglescout
[09:29] <rodnic> I changed to ati
[09:29] <arkangelp> hold on u said ctrl+w?
[09:29] <AinoTenshi> In Amazon.com there's the DVD, but I don't have international Card...   :(
[09:29] <lupine_85> chinny: note that minicom assumes you have a modem attached and does lots of AT wierdry before you get a chance to do anything
[09:30] <rodnic> and remove the fglrx driver
[09:30] <rodnic> Now it works fine !
[09:30] <jbmigel> eaglescout so you are in windows now?
[09:30] <rodnic> Thanks for all
[09:30] <Joe_Terror> ctrl+w is search, from there ctrl+t is go to line
[09:30] <AinoTenshi> Jimmey, thank's so much
[09:30] <arkangelp> look here is the 35 line:  ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:30] <rodnic> thansk ubotu
[09:30] <rodnic> thanks ubotu
[09:30] <arkangelp> look here is the 35 line:  deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[09:31] <jbmigel> domo arigato mr.ubotu
[09:31] <lupine_85> arkangelp: you need to add a repo - e.g. main, etc
[09:31] <eaglescout> jbmigel: not now, but I'm checking that right now.  I'll be right back in Windows. (BUT it got past the error, so I'm 99.9999% sure it'll work. :D
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> AinoTenshi: have you ever seen a coinstar machine at your grocery store?
[09:31] <arkangelp> ohhh but hold on let me show u something
[09:31] <jbmigel> eaglscout sweet
[09:31] <arkangelp> look lupine_85   it said  First you should add compiz aiglx in you source.list
[09:31] <arkangelp>     deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper .
[09:31] <itodd> i'm trying to get svnserve up as an inetd service. i seem to have succeeded but cannot import anything as no matter what i've tried i get "No repository found in ..." error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23159 any ideas?
[09:32] <graft> arkangelp: yeah, that extra '.' is important
[09:32] <Zukero> i hope dapper will be as conservative as hoary, ause i'm running it on a PII450/128MB Ram
[09:32] <arkangelp> oohh oks
[09:32] <arkangelp> so thats is my problem lol thx graft
[09:32] <Joe_Terror> the . means 'this directory'
[09:32] <Arcad3> try knoppix is better
[09:32] <graft> don't mention it... just don't say 'lol', i hate that shit
[09:33] <jbroome> Zukero: you are more patient than i
[09:33] <jbmigel> lol@graft
[09:33] <Joe_Terror> Zukero: if it's not, you can always try xubuntu
[09:35] <Skwid_> i have a problem with grub
[09:35] <Skwid_> everytime the menu.lst file gets updated
[09:35] <Skwid_> the partition numbers on the boot commands are wrong
[09:35] <Skwid_> and i have to edit them manually
[09:36] <Skwid_> any way to change that once for all ?
[09:36] <jbmigel> Skwid_ how are they wrong? like they point to the wrong disks? do you have more than 1 linux installed?
[09:36] <jbroome> !enter > Skwid_
[09:36] <krazykit> Skwid_: as a matter of fact, yes
[09:36] <jbmigel> !enter
[09:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:36] <Arcad3> just reinstall and it will fix automati
[09:37] <Arcad3> reinstall grub
[09:37] <Skwid_> well
[09:37] <Skwid_> i had played with my partitions
[09:37] <krazykit> Skwid_: fire up your favorite text editor and fine the line "##default grub root device"
[09:37] <tenkaperu> is it good to try ubuntu 5.10 ?
[09:37] <mar_cus> Hey people, I got a problem with cupsd can I ask my question here or will I get my head kicked off coz it's not on topic?
[09:37] <xipietotec> question: My document viewer is no longer coming up as an available option to read .pdf files?
[09:37] <krazykit> Skwid_: around there, you'll find some options to edit that'll automagically update.
[09:37] <Skwid_> i only have one linux, but for example, it should be: root		(hd0,5) and it is root		(hd0,3)
[09:37] <graft> mar_cus: cupsd is on-topic
[09:37] <Joe_Terror> tenkaperu: it can't hurt, but base your judgements on ubuntu on dapper
[09:37] <eyequeue> tenkaperu, 6.06.1 is the current stable release
[09:38] <xipietotec> how do I update the default document viewer?
[09:38] <xipietotec> or rather, where is it located so I can re-associate it with .pdf files?
[09:38] <rulus> xipietotec: sudo apt-get install evince
[09:38] <ScheissNUssen> anyone know of a program that can record video and audio from the desktop like Camstasia?
[09:38] <tenkaperu> thanks
[09:38] <rulus> I think
[09:38] <eyequeue> xipietotec, pick a file you'd like to see with NewApp, and then right click on it.  then associate it with NewApp
[09:39] <eyequeue> xipietotec, and yes, evince is nice :)
[09:39] <mar_cus> good thx :), my problem is this, (I use ubuntu dapper amd64), I can't log into any user at localhost:631,  I tried adding with lppassword but it wouldn't work, what am I doing wrong?
[09:39] <xipietotec> it's no longer in the apt list
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Skwid_: you may want to start by keeping a backup copy of your grub...    sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.backup
[09:39] <xipietotec> Actually, come to think of it, I can't open text files with doc viewer either
[09:39] <eyequeue> !repos > xipietotec
[09:39] <Joe_Terror> honestly, i use Adobe's reader over evince
[09:39] <chinny> lupine_85 - thanks for the follow up - what AT wierdry is there? I am used to TerraTerm on XP but would prefer to use ubuntu hence am very new to this
[09:39] <eyequeue> !info evince
[09:39] <ubotu> evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 676 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[09:40] <eyequeue> xipietotec, it's in main, you shouldn't even need extra repos
[09:40] <xipietotec> Okay I installed evince...but what about my default gnome document viewer?
[09:40] <xipietotec> I liked it
[09:40] <rulus> envice IS the default gnome document viewer
[09:40] <xipietotec> Oh
[09:40] <eyequeue> xipietotec, what was it called?  in About?
[09:40] <Skwid_> how would i reinstall grub ?
[09:41] <RootChaos> how would i install a .deb file ?
[09:41] <Joe_Terror> btw, any way to modify graphics card memory frequency / ram frequency without hand modifying kernel? I'm having weird screen tearing problems
[09:41] <xipietotec> eyequeue: I never looked, it just said "Document Viewer"
[09:41] <rulus> RootChaos: by doubleclicking on it
[09:41] <RootChaos> from the console ?
[09:41] <jbmigel> Skwid_ man grub-install
[09:41] <rulus> RootChaos: sudo dpkg -i thisisthedebfile.deb
[09:41] <RootChaos> rulus : thank you
[09:42] <klm-> in amule, is it more sensible to connect to a server that has lots of users or to one that has a fast ping?
[09:42] <Skwid_> hum, is my device name /dev/hdaX ?
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> RootChaos: do ls to make sure you are in the correct folder/directory
[09:42] <graft> klm - lots of users
[09:42] <jbmigel> Skwid_ probably /dev/hda
[09:42] <eyequeue> Skwid_, X is a numeral
[09:42] <Joe_Terror> klm: depends what you're looking for. if it's rare, more users.
[09:43] <eyequeue> Skwid_, er, letter and numeral
[09:43] <xipietotec> Another question, does anyone know a good voice recording program, other than the default one? It seems to record waaaayyy too low volume in .wav format when I send sound files to my spanish professor.
[09:43] <graft> klm - since downloading is peer-to-peer, ping time to the server doesn't matter a whole lot
[09:43] <ScheissNUssen> anyone know of a program that can record video and audio from the desktop like Camstasia?
[09:43] <ScheissNUssen> anyone know of a program that can record video and audio from the desktop like Camtasia?
[09:43] <Joe_Terror> it matters for finding sources.
[09:43] <eyequeue> ScheissNUssen, whatever that is
[09:43] <graft> yeah, but that's not at all a rate-limiting step
[09:44] <ScheissNUssen> ill find a link
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> ScheissNUssen: istanbul
[09:44] <graft> the fact that it takes you another millisecond to find a source isn't going to affect your download speed substantially
[09:44] <jbmigel> ScheissNUssen http://tejasconsulting.com/open-testware/feature/screen-capture-tools-survey.html
[09:44] <ScheissNUssen> http://www.techsmith.com/camtasia.asp?CMP=KgoogleCStm
[09:44] <rulus> ScheissNUssen: VmWare can do that, but I don't think you're looking for that
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> xipietotec: turn on the gain on your mic.
[09:44] <ScheissNUssen> y not?
[09:44] <Joe_Terror> lower ping: you'll probably get sources faster. more users: there will be more sources.
[09:44] <xipietotec> Exactly how would I do that?
[09:45] <Joe_Terror> xipie: alsamixer
[09:45] <eyequeue> ScheissNUssen, flash on that site?  it crashes firefox :(
[09:45] <CromagDK> should there be any directly problems installing 32bit OS on a 64bit CPU ?
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> CromagDK: no
[09:45] <Joe_Terror> Cromag: no
[09:45] <CromagDK> thnkx
[09:45] <CromagDK> :)
[09:45] <aztracker1> CromagDK, if it's amd64/emt64t no.
[09:45] <ScheissNUssen> yeah
[09:46] <ScheissNUssen> ok hold on
[09:46] <CromagDK> thank you all
[09:46] <xipietotec> I take it alsamixer is not on the default repositories
[09:46] <CromagDK> still having problems with my part. table
[09:46] <Joe_Terror> it comes with alsa tools
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsamixer
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <ScheissNUssen> try this
[09:46] <ScheissNUssen> http://www.techsmith.com/download/trials.asp
[09:47] <eyequeue> alsa-utils: /usr/bin/alsamixer
[09:47] <Joe_Terror> package is alsa-tools
[09:47] <CromagDK> i cant access my disc via cfdisk and at the same time there are missing 180GB in the disc. Anyone have an idea ? tried the fsck, but dont get any errors on it
[09:47] <Joe_Terror> or maybe alsa-utils. i'm old
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsamixergui
[09:47] <ubotu> alsamixergui: graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 148 kB
[09:47] <rulus> ScheissNUssen: I think you mean something like this?
[09:47] <eyequeue> Jack_Sparrow, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: not for me..
[09:48] <jbmigel> CromagDK try sudo cfdisk
[09:48] <rulus> http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/, but for ubuntu
[09:48] <CromagDK> jbmigel: ye i did :)
[09:48] <njzlut001> HEY
[09:48] <rulus> right?
[09:48] <CromagDK> forgot the sudo part, but i did it with sudo
[09:48] <eyequeue> Joe_Terror,  sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> eyequeue: it was for xipietotec
[09:48] <jbmigel> CromagDK how about sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[09:48] <CromagDK> fdsik ?
[09:48] <CromagDK> sec
[09:49] <eyequeue> xipietotec then lol !  sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[09:49] <ScheissNUssen> like Camtasia is basically a program where you can click and drag to make any size of a square or rectangle and it records within that shape
[09:49] <jbmigel> CromagDK fdisk is not as pretty but it works the same way
[09:49] <ScheissNUssen> to video
[09:49] <rulus> ah
[09:49] <rulus> I'm also looking for something like that 8)
[09:49] <CromagDK> i dont care about pretty hehe
[09:49] <CromagDK> but i get info though
[09:49] <CromagDK> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 38913.
[09:49] <CromagDK> and that could be a problem it says
[09:50] <jbmigel> CromagDK so like hit "p"
[09:50] <CromagDK> oh
[09:50] <ScheissNUssen> i have camtasia in windows but it doesnt work with this sound card
[09:50] <ScheissNUssen> so i am trying it in linux
[09:50] <jbmigel> CromagDK remember "q" for exit... "m" for help... look around...
[09:50] <CromagDK> thnkx
[09:50] <ScheissNUssen> cause the sound card doesnt give me probs in linx
[09:51] <Andre4s> I install automake to get 'make' right?
[09:51] <jbmigel> Andre4s build-essential
[09:51] <lupine_85> fdisk++
[09:53] <ScheissNUssen> rulus: http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/06/30/how-to-record-videos-of-your-desktop/
[09:53] <Flux_> umm hello
[09:53] <rulus> ScheissNUssen: woehoe, thanks :)
[09:53] <jbmigel> wow hey Flux_ how are you!
[09:53] <xipietotec> thanks jack-sparrow and eyequeue. One last question if anyone knows it: okay, in windows, using winRAR I could open pre-packaged executables (.exe), I can't seem to do the same thing with win-rar'd archive manager.
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> 928 people say hello back
[09:53] <eyequeue> !rar
[09:53] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:53] <Flux_> good! I need some help upping my screen re on my lappy
[09:53] <Andre4s> what is the package name of the kernel source? current running
[09:53] <Flux_> resoultion
[09:53] <eyequeue> xipietotec, ^^
[09:54] <jbmigel> Flux_ thats easy! do you know where your xorg.conf file is?
[09:54] <eyequeue> Andre4s, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[09:54] <Flux_> yea I changed that and restarted x server but still no good
[09:54] <xipietotec> I have .rar installed for my computer. I can open .rar files, but not .exe files which are actually packages.
[09:54] <jbmigel> Flux_ are you sure you changed it in the right color mode?
[09:54] <eyequeue> Andre4s, unpack the tarball from /usr/src/ to your $HOME
[09:54] <Flux_> I changed it for all colors 14 8 16
[09:55] <Joe_Terror> xipietotec: free or non-free ?
[09:55] <Flux_> I mean 4
[09:55] <Flux_> and 24
[09:55] <xipietotec> free or non-free what?
[09:55] <jbmigel> Flux_ well that sounds right... what resolution are you trying to get?
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Flux_: How about posting your xorg for us on the pastebin...  Are you running vesa drivers  or ati or sis
[09:55] <eyequeue> !info unrar
[09:55] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[09:55] <tennin> hi
[09:55] <eyequeue> !info rar
[09:55] <CromagDK> jbmigel: i now have a 149gb disk or some space i cant access...
[09:55] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:55] <Flux_> 1280x800
[09:55] <eyequeue> rar being nonfree
[09:56] <jbmigel> Flux_ are you sure your hardware supports that?
[09:56] <tennin> my computer suddenly completely froze up for no apparent reason, just while web browsing fairly innocuous pages w/ firefox
[09:56] <Flux_> ok wait let me paste it ,I am stilla linux noob  :(
[09:56] <tennin> and now it won't boot at all --- stops at "ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP"
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > Flux_
[09:56] <tennin> any ideas?
[09:57] <xipietotec> hmm....seems I may have installed rar, but not unrar
[09:57] <CromagDK> !paste
[09:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:57] <jbmigel> CromagDK you mean you have unallocated space on the disk? or that you have data in a partition you cant mount?
[09:57] <covOPprometheus> hello fellows, can anyone help me with some cdrom issue? or is everyone unwilling today?
[09:57] <tennin> I had it set up in the basement somewhat near a washer and dryer --- could that have damaged it somehow?
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tennin: have you done any upgrades, added programs, used Automatix or easyubuntu scripts?
[09:57] <Flux_> no I know about pastebin just linux stuff :)
[09:57] <CromagDK> jbmigel: that i have data in a part i cant mount
[09:57] <solarce> http://youtube.com/watch?v=3gg5LOd_Zus
[09:57] <CromagDK> gives me error
[09:57] <tennin> no, I didn't do anything that required root access
[09:57] <jbmigel> CromagDK is it a windows partition? ntfs??
[09:57] <CromagDK> no
[09:58] <CromagDK> its a 320gb disc
[09:58] <xipietotec> bollocks, still doesn't work.
[09:58] <xipietotec> stupid math class, with it's stupid proprietary plugins
[09:58] <tennin> basically, I just started using it a couple hours ago, and Firefox is the only app. I've run
[09:58] <some_lame_nick> any way to migrate lvm '/' out of lvm?
[09:58] <tennin> but I somehow managed to break it anyway =\
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tennin: Is this a laptop or desktop box
[09:59] <Flux_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23161
[09:59] <covOPprometheus> can anyone help me with some cdrom issue?
[09:59] <tennin> desktop
[09:59] <lupine_85> !unrar-nonfree
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <Flux_> laptop
[09:59] <Flux_> oh sry
[09:59] <xipietotec> tennin: So far everything that I've broken I've managed to fix really easily
[10:00] <xipietotec> things I have broken: Doc viewer, my wireless manager, my openGL.
[10:00] <Flux_> jbmigel, Jack_sparrow http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23161
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Flux_: got it.. you are running vesa default
[10:00] <tennin> I'm wondering if the hard disk might've gotten corrupted
[10:00] <Flux_> whats that?
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Flux_: DO you know what video card is in your machine
[10:01] <Flux_> its some integrated I think
[10:01] <tennin> RSDP means Root System Description Pointer right?  that sounds pretty fundamental
[10:01] <Flux_> not ati or radeon for sure
[10:01] <jbmigel> Flux_ what kind of laptop do you have? please be specific
[10:01] <Flux_> model is acer 5003
[10:01] <Flux_> aspire 5003
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Flux_: You can try lspci and see if you can identify the video chipset..
[10:02] <Flux_> lpsci?
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sis chipset
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> SiSM760GX
[10:03] <lupine_85> lshw |grep display ?
[10:03] <Flux_> sorry I have no clue ow to do that
[10:03] <tamacracker> Muahahahaha nicotine is tight!!!
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !sis
[10:03] <tamacracker> JImey, thank you again for helpin me out :)
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> THought that would be too easy
[10:04] <eyequeue> !bro
[10:04] <jbmigel> heh
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <stevenB> Flux_:  open a terminal, and type: lspci
[10:04] <Flux_> command not found
[10:04] <jbmigel> !bra
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <zyclop> whenever i run 3d-games in fullscreen mode, part of the upper screen has wandered to the bottom. what is going on?
[10:05] <jbmigel> Flux_ lspci not lpsci
[10:05] <zyclop> tried it with nexuiz and neverball
[10:05] <kyja> !CLIPBOARD
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CLIPBOARD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Flux_> oops doe
[10:06] <kyja> yikes
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jbmigel: we got the video chipset for flux
[10:06] <Flux_> done
[10:06] <jbmigel> Jack_Sparrow ya i know just helping him out. sis right
[10:07] <kyja> I have noticed that ubuntu does not have a true clipboard
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> jbmigel:  Keep at it..
[10:07] <zyclop> kyja: that is responsability of the desktop environment
[10:07] <Flux_> hmm.. what now?
[10:08] <jbmigel> Flux_ ok you need sis driver in your xorg.conf not vesa
[10:08] <kyja> to copy paiste from one document to another the old one has to remain open.
[10:08] <Jeffroiscool> hoora new error
[10:08] <kyja> hmm
[10:08] <tennin> ok, looks like it was a network problem
[10:08] <Jeffroiscool> I reinstalled windows xp and debian just about 30 minutes ago
[10:08] <tennin> disconnecting the network cable makes it work fine
[10:08] <jbmigel> Flux_ can you change your device driver from vesa to sis please then ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X and everything should work fine
[10:08] <tennin> boot fine that is
[10:08] <Jeffroiscool> after i installed debian i get a grub error: error 17
[10:08] <Zukero> zyclop, sounds stupid but, have you checked your monitor cable ?
[10:08] <Jeffroiscool> what can i do about it
[10:09] <zyclop> Zukero: I'll try that, thx
[10:09] <slimz> does anyone know which program i could use to send, receive, and sort faxes, kind of like i did with outlook?
[10:09] <Zukero> yw
[10:09] <eyequeue> Jeffroiscool, this is #ubuntu
[10:09] <Flux_> jbmigel how do I change it?
[10:09] <some_lame_nick> any way to migrate '/' out of lvm?
[10:09] <Jeffroiscool> :o
[10:09] <icema1> anyone able to help me troubleshoot the nvidia  driver?
[10:09] <Jeffroiscool> i didnt know xD
[10:09] <Flux_> oh ok saw it brb after trying that
[10:09] <jbmigel> Flux_ use the same method you used to update the screen resolution values
[10:10] <Jeffroiscool> xchat puts on this channel when i come in
[10:10] <alex222> how do you compile a .c file?
[10:10] <Jeffroiscool> because i use ubuntu to rescue my pc ;)
[10:10] <eyequeue> !b-e > alex222
[10:10] <harisund> Hello! Can I install Ubuntu on 5 GB of hard disk space?
[10:10] <nozorro> Jeffroiscool: ubuntu to the rescue of debian and windows!
[10:10] <zyclop> Zukero: nope, still not working
[10:10] <alex222> euequeue, i want to install this: http://www.compiz.net/topic-3000-oxygen-engine
[10:10] <jbmigel> harisund you only need 1.4GB for default desktop install
[10:10] <alex222> "Oxygen...01.tar"
[10:11] <alex222> how doi do thaTR?
[10:11] <harisund> jbmigel that's all I needed to know. Thanks a ton :)
[10:11] <anon32> harisund: Yes, but it won't be very usefull
[10:11] <eyequeue> alex222, see what the bot said
[10:11] <Zukero> zyclop, try different resolutions/ frequencies for your screen
[10:11] <harisund> anon32: what won't be very useful?
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Jeffroiscool:  /join #Debian will get you where you need to go for help with your XP / Debian dual boot
[10:11] <harisund> anon32: meaning I will fill it up completely?
[10:11] <Jeffroiscool> yup i know windows sux but i need it
[10:11] <zyclop> Zukero: wich command?
[10:11] <Jeffroiscool> im there allready
[10:11] <icema1> I followed the Nvidia how-to, but this build in video is still set as default so i cannot boot to the nvidia driver. anyone help
[10:11] <Jeffroiscool> i reinstalled about 3 times and still i get errors
[10:12] <Zukero> zyclop, System->preferenes->screen resoltuion
[10:12] <anon32> harisund: No, only about 2GB, but 3GB won't last for long
[10:12] <Zukero> harisund, i use a 5GB partition for ubuntu to be used as a media center connected to network drives
[10:12] <anon32> Speaking of Windows, I wonder why it's listening on 135, 139, and 445...
[10:12] <Zukero> harisund, more than enough
[10:13] <eyequeue> !windows
[10:13] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:13] <Zukero> harisund, might be short if you want to add a lot of heavy apps like games or such
[10:13] <icema1> wheres xorg.config at
[10:13] <zyclop> Zukero: i'm running fluxbox, so that wasn't the most helpful thing to know
[10:13] <anon32> ...ubotu's got a nasty attitude
[10:13] <harisund> Zukero and anon32 thanks .. I am just installing it on Windows XP using Vmware server. ...
[10:13] <mike8901_> why does my windows box not take my ubuntu username/password as a valid form of identification while connecting to an smb share on my ubuntu box?
[10:13] <Zukero> zyclop, sorry then
[10:14] <Flux_> w00t it works thx jbmigel, jack_sparrow thanks for all the help
[10:14] <icema1> !xorg.conf
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <jbmigel> Flux_ glad to hear it... enjoy
[10:14] <icema1> !xorg
[10:14] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:14] <Zukero> mike8901_,  because smb use different login/passwd sets
[10:14] <zyclop> Zukero: well, i'll find out by myself then. thanks anyways
[10:14] <Zukero> yw
[10:14] <eyequeue> what's with all the windows questions in here?
[10:14] <harisund> Zukero I am installing Ubuntu on WinXP (Vmware) for development and testing. No games and stuff :)
[10:14] <anon32> mike8901_: don't know, maybe you should ask Microsoft?
[10:14] <Flux_> my next mission: to install xgl hopefully :)
[10:14] <mike8901_> Zukero: how can I just tell it to take any password/username?
[10:14] <mike8901_> or not require one
[10:14] <harisund> eyequeue: what windows questions?
[10:14] <diego_cl> why my samba host works with windows xp, but with windows 98 doesn't ?
[10:14] <mike8901_> It's on a protected lan, so I don't really care.
[10:14] <anon32> I thought VMWare didn't have any hardware access?
[10:15] <Zukero> harisund, so 5GB is enough
[10:15] <nozorro> icema1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:15] <lupine_85> aon32: some
[10:15] <lupine_85> it can do sound and network well
[10:15] <eyequeue> harisund, it seems about 4 ppl recently keep bringing it up
[10:15] <lupine_85> video badly
[10:15] <djm62> man, more windows than a greenhouse in here :)
[10:15] <Zukero> mike8901_, by default try to use empty login/passwd/domain name in the smb login query
[10:15] <mike8901_> is there a GUI utility that can do this? I don't see anything in the ubuntu smb utility
[10:15] <eyequeue> harisund, example: <diego_cl> why my samba host works with windows xp, but with windows 98 doesn't ?
[10:15] <mike8901_> Zukero: windows won't let me
[10:16] <mike8901_> I think it tries that before anything
[10:16] <Zukero> mike8901_, try to find some examples of smb.conf files on google
[10:16] <some_lame_nick> nt/xp use encrypted pw, 98 doesn't
[10:16] <icema1> dang, anyone help me with the Nvidia driver, I did the howto, but the drivers not installed.
[10:16] <harisund> eyequeue: oh ... I don't know... I enjoy my Ubuntu on my Windows XP .. Vmware is pretty damn fast... and running Windows in the back I don't need to be worried of restricted Formats.. I can run the restricted Formats on Windows and everything else on Linux :)
[10:17] <ladydoor> how would i convert a .wav file to an mp3? i have all the right codices, i just don't know what command/program to use, because when i'm encoding for myself i use .ogg instead of .mp3.
[10:17] <nozorro> icema1: how do you mean 'not installed'?
[10:17] <eyequeue> harisund, it's vile, imo
[10:17] <Crescendo> How do I clean out RSA keys for SSH?
[10:17] <Zukero> ladydoor, man gstreamer
[10:17] <eyequeue> Crescendo,
[10:17] <anon32> ladydoor: try LAME
[10:17] <eyequeue> 'clean out
[10:17] <anon32> !LAME
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LAME - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <anon32> !lame
[10:17] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[10:17] <Zukero> ladydoor, gstreamer enables you to do a lot of encoding/ripping stuff
[10:18] <Crescendo> eyequeue, what?
[10:18] <mike8901_> after modifying smb.conf how do I restart samba?
[10:18] <eyequeue> Crescendo, "clean out" of where?
[10:18] <Zukero> !gstreamer
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <lupine_85>  /etc/init.d/samba restart ?
[10:18] <miranda82> j #palm
[10:18] <lupine_85> (guesing)
[10:18] <ladydoor> Zukero: thanks for your suggestion, but i don't have gstreamer installed anyway--i use xine. but i will try lame
[10:18] <ladydoor> anon32: i'll try lame
[10:18] <Crescendo> Remove the RSA keys - I reloaded a server, can't SSH in because the RSA key changed.
[10:18] <grodius> can someone give me a link to a good tutorial for XGL in ubuntu
[10:18] <Zukero> ladydoor, lame is just a codec
[10:19] <ladydoor> Zukero: it's also an encoder, if you read the manpage
[10:19] <Zukero> ladydoor, it is required to encode, but will not do the work
[10:19] <Zukero> mike8901_,  lupine_85 is right
[10:19] <eyequeue> Crescendo, vim ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:19] <ladydoor> Zukero: actually, not true, but thank you. i'm reading the manpage right now.
[10:19] <icema1> Anyone how do i disable the Onboard graphic's and turn on the nvidia drivers to load at boot
[10:19] <diego_cl> some_lame_nick: is because the password encryption that i cant enter to the W98 computer trough Ubuntu ?
[10:19] <Zukero> ladydoor, k, just learnt something
[10:19] <ladydoor> Zukero: :-)
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> grodius: Try asking in #ubuntu-xgl to see what they recommend.
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> icema1:  You should be able to disable onboard video from your bios/setup
[10:20] <mojo_3> Hello everyone
[10:20] <jbmigel> sup mojo_3
[10:21] <diego_cl> some_lame_nick: : when I try to enter to Ubuntu trough W98 does open a windows with a slot for password, but without username... it say \\my_workgroup\IPC$
[10:21] <mojo_3> Not much, just wondering if anyone has done a comparison between initng and the procedure in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=speed+feel
[10:21] <icema1> Jack_Sparrow in bios yes, but linux still installs reguardless of the bios settings, so I have to install to the Onboard video, then reconfigure and install the nvidia driver, but the howto fro the nv driver did not work.
[10:22] <dweez> Is there being work done on the English Ubuntu forums right now?
[10:22] <eyequeue> mojo_3, no sense spending time with initng, edgy already uses upstart
[10:22] <Jack_Sparrow> icema1: Please pastebin your xorg.conf for people to check
[10:22] <ladydoor> dweez: what do you mean?
[10:22] <icema1> !pastbin
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <nozorro> !pastebin
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:23] <icema1> !pastebin
[10:23] <mojo_3> Is edgy even close to being usable yet?
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> icema1: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf    I also suggest    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf.backup
[10:23] <dweez> ladydoor, well, at first the forums weren't coming up...then they were but got a DB error on a search
[10:23] <nozorro> oops
[10:23] <eyequeue> mojo_3, /list #ubuntu+1     no
[10:23] <salim> I have XFCE on my notebook, when I used SUSE Linux, I could change my battery cpu frequency with KPowersave - what can I do now?
[10:23] <jbmigel> mojo_3 just leave it on... nothing faster than that
[10:23] <Laks|Xeno> can anyone tell me what the symbol is in 'live video*ofonly'
[10:23] <dweez> ladydoor, I was just wondering if there was maintenance being performed on the forums right now or whether my net access/comp were having issues
[10:23] <ladydoor> dweez: well, according to the mainpage they're going down for about half an hour in about half an hour...but other than that, not that i know of
[10:24] <Laks|Xeno> i cant read it on my screen
[10:24] <dweez> ladydoor, ah, thanks much
[10:24] <eyequeue> Laks|Xeno, asterisk
[10:24] <ladydoor> dweez: np
[10:24] <Laks|Xeno> thanks
[10:25] <mojo_3> I have my ubuntu sat up rather interestingly and it is working like a speed demon.  reiserfs for /boot, XFS for /, prelink and preload, XML optimizations, initng, and elevator=cfq passed to the kernel.  It is working like a dream.
[10:25] <ladydoor> anon32: thanks; lame did the trick.
[10:26] <ladydoor> anon32: though i would think that even m$ and mac could read .ogg files
[10:26] <anon32> ladydoor: just between us, I actually use Windows :-\
[10:26] <ladydoor> :-/
[10:26] <ladydoor> anon32: oh noes!
[10:26] <icema1> heres my  xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23162
[10:26] <anon32> ogg lacks support everywhere
[10:26] <ladydoor> anon32: that's odd, what with the source being...well, free
[10:26] <CromagDK> !paste
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:26] <anon32> ladydoor: but a lack of commercial interest, who do you know that uses ogg?
[10:27] <jbmigel> iriver plays ogg
[10:27] <djm62> anon32: samsung make some players
[10:27] <ladydoor> anon32: ...me
[10:27] <Subhuman> cowon iaudio 6 plays ogg and flac
[10:27] <lost_soul> if anyone has time for a bit of help problem is explained http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1487917#post1487917
[10:27] <anon32> ladydoor: and... how often do you find Vorbis encoded files on itunes?
[10:27] <ladydoor> anon32: i don't know--i've never used it
[10:28] <Skwid_> i just installed compiz
[10:28] <Skwid_> this is insane :)
[10:28] <jbmigel> lost_soul... there is no question in that soap box of a post you just linked too
[10:28] <anon32> mm... no sane business would use Vorbis
[10:28] <djm62> it's no worse than putting up with apple proprietary tech to use itunes, using free tech and enjoying the digital lifestyle, ubuntu style
[10:28] <mojo_3> Ive seen several games use vorbis for their sound files.
[10:28] <lost_soul> configure: error: OpenSSL was not found. Please supply a pathname to OpenSSL
[10:28] <anon32> mm... what really worries me is if someone can use MS File Sharing to execute code on my system....
[10:28] <lost_soul> is the issue
[10:29] <anon32> mojo_3: really? mp3 uses less CPU power
[10:29] <jbmigel> lost_soul have you installed ssl?
[10:29] <djm62> mojo_3: oh yeah, forgot about that
[10:29] <lost_soul> jbmigel yes
[10:29] <lost_soul> jbmigel other programs use ssl fine
[10:29] <mojo_3> Yes, but it needs to be licensed.  Several game developers like to cut costs any way they can.
[10:29] <jbmigel> lost_soul well can you tell where it was installed to?
[10:30] <anon32> how practical is it to play games using vmware or qemu?
[10:30] <nozorro> icema1: if you want the nvidia instead of the intel driver, insert 'nvidia' in "Device" Section (remove "i810"). Disable the BusID line for now
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> icema1: clearly it is not showing your nvidia video card, just the i810
[10:30] <anon32> um, anyone?
[10:30] <djm62> mojo_3: I think games developers tend to have a bit more freedom to try newer tech, too
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> icema1: Dose COmpaq have a jumper on the MB to disable the onboard video?
[10:30] <icema1> anyone help my configure this system to use the nvidia driver
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> icema1: Someone is at the door.. brb
[10:31] <mike8901_> how can I configure ubuntu to allow all users access to the smb shares?
[10:31] <slimz> does anyone know which program i could use to send, receive, and sort faxes, kind of like i did with outlook?
[10:31] <lost_soul> I can't find where the ssl was installed
[10:31] <nozorro> icema1: read what people are telling you :-) scroll up
[10:31] <jbmigel> icema1 just put the new card in and plug your monitor into it... make sure nothing plugged into mobo video and run install
[10:31] <anon32> mike8901_: I believe it's adminstration->file sharing
[10:31] <icema1> Jack_Sparrow no jumper, just bios, first thing i checked, Dell does the same thing.
[10:31] <lost_soul> or I could try to point directly to it
[10:31] <montcalm> I'm about to try the edgy live cd with accessibility support.  I wonder if there is a way to turn off kernel pre-emption since pre-emption hurts software speech synthesis.
[10:32] <mike8901_> you mean shared folders?
[10:32] <erUSUL> montcalm: you will have to compie youre own kernel
[10:32] <erUSUL> !kernel > montcalm
[10:32] <lost_soul> OpenOffice even seems to use ssl, just eggdrop can't find it to allow ssl support for the eggdrop bot
[10:33] <lost_soul> libssl-dev i installed myself after f00buntu suggested that as a possible fix
[10:33] <lupine_85> do you need the -dev package?
[10:33] <montcalm> I thought so.  Perhaps I should publish a separate cdimage or else one that has a separate boot option and a non-premptable kernel.  X will start a bit slower, but we might have better spech.
[10:33] <jbmigel> lost_soul i have reread your post 2 times now... i dont want to help you... your sort of a jerk
[10:34] <anon32> !lynx
[10:34] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK), Opera (Qt), Konqueror (KDE/Qt), Links (terminal-based). HTTP servers: apache2
[10:34] <anon32> ok
[10:34] <eyequeue> what?
[10:34] <mojo_3> If anyone is interested in what is producing the best audio quality out of all of the newest music encoders right now, a massive public test it being ran here.  http://www.soundexpert.info/coders192.jsp  Seems like Nero AAC is ahead by a tiny margin.
[10:34] <mike8901_> how can I set permissions under the shared folder options?
[10:34] <eyequeue> !info lynx > anon32
[10:34] <ubotu> lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4552 kB
[10:34] <lost_soul> jbmigel okies
[10:34] <lems> how do i change the driver for my graphic-card?
[10:34] <anon32> mojo_3: what about lossless audio?
[10:35] <lost_soul> 16:36 < jbmigel> lost_soul i have reread your post 2 times now... i dont want to  help you... your sort of a jerk
[10:35] <lupine_85> lems: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:35] <lost_soul> whoops
[10:35] <aztracker1> mojo_3, aac is nice, but mp3 is more universal..
[10:35] <anon32> lems: you download a new one and install it?
[10:35] <anon32> montcalm: Monkey's Audio has better compression though
[10:35] <icema1> Jack_Sparrow no jumpers.
[10:35] <ichdasich> hi
[10:35] <lost_soul> the post has been there three weeks...  I suppose I shouldn't be frustruated but after asking both on the forum and on here repeatedly one tends to get that way
[10:35] <montcalm> Really?  Never tried it.
[10:36] <mojo_3> I agree with montcalm.  Although flac might not have the best compression, its decoding speed is fast, and stays the same no matter how much it is compressed.
[10:36] <lems> lupine_85: yes, but then how?
[10:36] <djm62> aztracker1: vlc will do that IIRC
[10:36] <nozorro> lems: to which video driver are you changing?
[10:36] <lupine_85> anon32: most are already 'installed' ;)
[10:36] <lupine_85> lems: what driver are you wanting to change to?
[10:36] <ichdasich> i just installed an ubuntu as a dualboot system... now i wonder how i can allow it to a normal user, that he can read the ntfs mounts?
[10:36] <anon32> mojo_3: but for lossless audio, isn't high compression the most important point, since audio quality can't change?
[10:37] <lems> lupine_85: gf 4600ti is my card
[10:37] <mjr> and it's not like the lossless compression efficiency differences are very notable
[10:37] <anon32> lupine_85: sorry?
[10:37] <lupine_85> Geforce?
[10:37] <lems> lupine_85: yes
[10:37] <mojo_3> Im talking about the decoding speed stays the same no matter how much it is compressed.
[10:37] <lupine_85> ok, you need to install the packages linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx
[10:37] <anon32> mojo_3: mm, the extra 4% is nice though
[10:37] <lems> lupine_85: done that
[10:37] <lupine_85> then in a terminal, "sudo nvidia-glx enable" should do the tric
[10:38] <icema1> I got the Nvidia 4000 gf card, but can not get the driver to work
[10:38] <anon32> restricted my a**, there's no inherent reason OSS is superior, or more ethical
[10:38] <lupine_85> erm, nvidia-glx-config, rather... sorry
[10:39] <anon32> what's glx stand for?
[10:39] <montcalm> Dl is done.  Wish me luck in testing the accessibility stuff. ;-)
[10:39] <eyequeue> !glx
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <THX> #ubuntu-glx   freenode irc
[10:39] <lupine_85> GL is presumably in OpenGL
[10:39] <lupine_85> dunno about the X
[10:39] <mojo_3> Here is a good comparison of all of the lossless audio encoders if anyone is interested.  http://members.home.nl/w.speek/comparison.htm
[10:40] <libervisco> does Ubuntu keep everything up to date in its repos?
[10:40] <aztracker1> bbl
[10:40] <xav> lupine_85: lol
[10:40] <eyequeue> libervisco, define
[10:40] <xav> lupine_85: X is X
[10:40] <libervisco> like, for example, does it have GNOME 2.16 now?
[10:40] <lupine_85> GL for X then? ;)
[10:40] <lems> lupine_85: thanks!
[10:40] <xav> lupine_85: nothing more to say
[10:40] <Alam_Ubuntu> anyone know how to setup an user(guest) with no password to allow anyone to login?
[10:40] <lupine_85> libervisco: no
[10:40] <lupine_85> Ubuntu policy is not to bring new versions of a software into a stable release
[10:40] <nozorro> Alam_Ubuntu: System > Admin > Users and Groups
[10:40] <eyequeue> Alam_Ubuntu, so your box can be a zombie/spamhost?
[10:40] <lupine_85> security releases are generally backported onto the current packages
[10:41] <anon32> alam_ubuntu: I'd assume you just create one
[10:41] <libervisco> ah
[10:41] <ichdasich> thx
[10:41] <mojo_3> I have the very newest versions of Azureus and Opera working perfectly.
[10:41] <Alam_Ubuntu> no users-admin will not allow me to set a blank password on an account
[10:41] <THX> lupine - glx wasn't very stable for me and crashed -alot- xcompmgr  seems to be vewry solid if not as exciting.
[10:41] <lupine_85> Alam_Ubuntu: doesn't daftuser::blah in /etc/passwd work?
[10:41] <lupine_85> e.g. where the password hash should be, have nothing at all
[10:41] <DemisM> can i install ubuntu off of my windows harddrive
[10:41] <lupine_85> (never done it ;) )
[10:41] <libervisco> lupine_85, so only way is to use edgy
[10:42] <DemisM> sigh, off of my harddrive with windows installed on it
[10:42] <libervisco> that is, upgrade to edgy
[10:42] <lupine_85> libervisco: the only way that won't break upgrades it to use edgy
[10:42] <lupine_85> but edgy might not have it
[10:42] <lupine_85> !gnome edgy
[10:42] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[10:42] <lems> lupine_85: now x wont start ;)
[10:42] <lupine_85> 2.14.2 - either they're working on adding it, or we're after the feature freeze
[10:42] <xav> DemisM: why not?
[10:42] <anon32> huh, that lossless codec comparison puts FLAC below WMA9, which really worries me
[10:42] <lupine_85> lems: strange.
[10:42] <libervisco> lupine_85, I see, thanks
[10:42] <nozorro> lems: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:42] <lupine_85> what does "sudo modprobe nvidia" say?
[10:43] <eyequeue> feature freeze has come and gone
[10:43] <THX> DemisM - From an iso image ??  - yes but it is difficult. - google knoppix poor mans install
[10:43] <eyequeue> !schedule
[10:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:43] <lems> nozorro: no
[10:43] <some_lame_nick> Alam_Ubuntu:  create an account with limited rights then atomaticlogin in gdm.conf
[10:43] <skunkworks> Hello.  Has anyone played with bluetooth on 6?
[10:43] <mojo_3> anon, but look at that decoding speed.  You cant beat that
[10:43] <icema1> dang nvidia driver, anyone how can i tell ubuntu to boot the nvidia driver and not the onboard.
[10:43] <Alam_Ubuntu> but I don't want autologin
[10:44] <anon32> mojo_3: what does the decoding speed matter as long as it's above 1x real time?
[10:44] <Laks|Xeno> can anyone tell me if the ati X850 is supported by this build?
[10:44] <Laks|Xeno> i'm starting to get the feeling its not
[10:44] <icema1> !nvidia
[10:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:44] <anon32> laks|xeno: what reatures?
[10:44] <anon32> features*
[10:45] <THX> how do i pass a transparency variable to nautilus when it starts?   with xcmpmgr
[10:45] <Laks|Xeno> err, i cant even install the OS - i use the video=ofonly and i make it about 1/2 way through  install
[10:45] <libervisco> lupine_85, btw, other repos are updated all the time, like universe, right?
[10:45] <Laks|Xeno> and then it just stops
[10:45] <anon32> laks|xeno: you sure it's not your monitor?
[10:45] <lupine_85> libervisco: sort of
[10:46] <Laks|Xeno> yea monitor works fine - once it tries to load  buttonspscd or something like that it just gets a flashing cursor in top left corner
[10:46] <THX> Laks - You are using the text based "alternate install CD"?
[10:46] <Laks|Xeno> then it just goes blank
[10:46] <Laks|Xeno> no i have desktop - i guess i'll try that next
[10:46] <lupine_85> universe it generally out of date (by my reckoning)
[10:46] <lupine_85> -backports will generally be the most up-to-date version of a package available - if they cover it
[10:46] <Frederick> folks Ive installed gcrypt, where are its docs placed?
[10:46] <Laks|Xeno> im on a dual g5 with an x850
[10:47] <Laks|Xeno> thanks for the help - i'll try the alternate cd
[10:47] <anon32> frederick: the /doc directory probably?
[10:47] <lupine_85> alt-install cd ++
[10:47] <eyequeue> lupine_85, libervisco, no, there is a universe freeze as well
[10:47] <mojo_3> Decoding Speed is really useful for converting them to other formats such as other lossless formats and lossy formats
[10:47] <mojo_3> It makes a big difference, plus a high decoding speed gived audio devices less work
[10:47] <eyequeue> !schedule
[10:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:47] <nozorro> Frederick: most likey /usr/share/doc/gcrypt
[10:47] <lupine_85> multiverse?
[10:47] <libervisco> ok, thanks lupine_85, so it seems Ubuntu isn't really a bleeding edge distro :)
[10:47] <lupine_85> not even close :)
[10:47] <lupine_85> if you want bleeding-edge, LFS or Gentoo
[10:47] <Frederick> nozorro, thanks@!
[10:47] <anon32> mojo_3: for decoding speed, you want... wav
[10:47] <eyequeue> libervisco, that is edgy
[10:47] <eyequeue> !edgy > libervisco
[10:48] <nozorro> Frederick: last dir. name corresponds to package name
[10:48] <libervisco> yeah
[10:48] <lupine_85> even edgy isn't exactly bleeding-edge
[10:48] <squirelribby> does anyone know why I can't receive files through gaim?  I can send just fine.
[10:48] <mojo_3> well anon, we at least want some compression.  And Flac does a decent job.
[10:48] <xav> icema1: lupine_85 what does bleeding edge mean to you?
[10:48] <lupine_85> it means hot off the CVS press ;)
[10:48] <anon32> isn't edgy composed of entirely beta software? mojo_3: I'll give you that, although increasing the encoding level in flac seems pointless
[10:48] <THX> eyeque - xgl/compiz only runs for a few minutes at a time for me. then crashes spectacularly.
[10:48] <eyequeue> a bloody dangerous mess
[10:48] <lupine_85> e.g. my ralink driver is bleesing-edge
[10:48] <libervisco> to me bleeding edge means the latest stable release of a program
[10:48] <eyequeue> anon32, no
[10:49] <xav> lupine_85: lfs is anything but bleeding edge
[10:49] <philc> "c compiler can't create executables" means I need build-essential, right?
[10:49] <xav> lupine_85: same for gentoo
[10:49] <anon32> anyone know what's new in firefox 1.5.0.7 RC (insert number here)?
[10:49] <eyequeue> bleeding isn't stable, hence the blood
[10:49] <mojo_3> annon.  Past the default 5 is pointless.  Level 8 is definately overkill.
[10:49] <eyequeue> !b-e > philc
[10:49] <xav> ah, yes, gentoo is bleeding
[10:49] <libervisco> well, ok I like close to bleeding edge then :)
[10:49] <libervisco> stable edge
[10:49] <icema1> xav ? what you mean
[10:49] <xav> lfs, it depends on you
[10:50] <xav> icema1: sorry
[10:50] <THX> xcmpmgr is much better than it was with hoary. - works perfectly now.
[10:50] <lupine_85> you mean papercut-edge?
[10:50] <libervisco> lupine_85, you could say that :)
[10:50] <icema1> xav i ran xorg.reconfig, now i;ll try to reboot
[10:50] <lupine_85> lfs "can" be bleeding-edge
[10:50] <[CBLA] Green> Need help with GRUB locking up my system on boot...... PLZ! :'(
[10:50] <icema1> brb i hope :(
[10:50] <djm62> libervisco: you always have the option, but ubuntu stable may not be the distro for you ;)
[10:50] <anon32> mojo_3: the real problem is that it falls behind some more efficient codecs by as much as 7-10%
[10:50] <xav> lupine_85: every distrib can be
[10:50] <twowordz> hey I have a problem with artefact appearing on boot (splash) and in some buttons in gnome
[10:51] <libervisco> djm62, yeah that's what I'm pondering.. I'm coming from Arch and am a bit tired of having to set everything up myself :)
[10:51] <libervisco> I tried Frugalware, but got a bit dissappointed
[10:51] <twowordz> I changed my monitor and my videocard, so my guess is that I would need a new initrd.img am I right?
[10:51] <libervisco> now I'm attracted by Ubuntu again
[10:51] <Laks|Xeno> Anyone here installed Ubuntu on a G5?
[10:51] <lupine_85> twowordz: not really
[10:51] <libervisco> for the sheer polish of it :)
[10:51] <eyequeue> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseFreeze
[10:51] <mojo_3> Yes, but this is the reason why MP3 still has an edge over all of the other lossy formats.  Portability.  Flac is supported by more lossy encoders and audio players than any other lossless format.
[10:51] <lupine_85> Ubuntu is the easiest distro I've ever set up
[10:52] <twowordz> lupine_85, then what would you suggest?
[10:52] <djm62> anon32: whatever works for you, dude.  flac is available when I turn on my computer, anything else would require me to do research and spend effort
[10:52] <[CBLA] Green> anyone know a good resourse for using the windows bootloader???
[10:52] <nozorro> twowordz: most likely a video driver but
[10:52] <lupine_85> twowordz: it should "just work"
[10:52] <nozorro> *bug
[10:52] <eyequeue> !windows > [CBLA] Green
[10:52] <anon32> mm, do the proprietary ATI drivers cover the x300?
[10:52] <anon32> !windows
[10:52] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:52] <twowordz> nozorro, the video driver isn't loaded at this stage
[10:52] <anon32> oh
[10:52] <lupine_85> unless you've got some daft video mode that requires a framebuffer at kernel boot, it should be fine
[10:52] <twowordz> lupine_85, the slash is in the initrd right?
[10:53] <anon32> there's no need for the diss
[10:53] <eugman> Can you print stuff from the command line like pdfs?
[10:53] <nozorro> twowordz: you said you had the problem in gnome too ...
[10:53] <libervisco> What would you guys say about Ubuntu performance compared to other distros (in terms of speed)?
[10:53] <[CBLA] Green> eyequeue: GRUB keeps freezing my system and LILO won't install...
[10:53] <lupine_85> slash?
[10:53] <archangelpetro> incidently what exactly is it i have to apt-get install to allow you tube to work?
[10:53] <lupine_85> libervisco: faster than SuSE
[10:53] <xav> libervisco: finally, I think it's ok
[10:53] <twowordz> nozorro,  i think the problem is caused by the bad initrd and that I make some corruption later on
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: The x300 seems to be a bit of an orphan..
[10:53] <archangelpetro> the package name that is
[10:53] <mike8901_> how come I get "ChainWalkContext.cpp:14:26: error: openssl/rand.h: No such file or directory
[10:53] <mike8901_> " when I am compiling a program? I got openssl through the package manager.
[10:53] <anon32> livervisco: well, performance depends on what processes you have running, a distro is just a bunch of random software put together
[10:53] <anon32> mm
[10:54] <lupine_85> "a bit" faster than a well-optimised Windows install
[10:54] <xav> libervisco: problem with many distrib is that they install a ton of unneeded crap by default
[10:54] <libervisco> xav, yeah
[10:54] <xav> libervisco: so boot is slow if you do a normal install
[10:54] <anon32> the problem with the ubuntu distro is that it doesn't install a working media player by default
[10:54] <libervisco> one thing about Arch I've been liking is speed
[10:54] <twowordz> lupine_85, I had a 20 ws monitor hooked up when I installed ubuntu and everything worked great but since I changed the monitor to a 1280x1024 i have problems
[10:54] <libervisco> it booted faster than any distro
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: I disagree, it is not entirely RANDOM what packages are used and included in a distro
[10:55] <lupine_85> anon: libxine-extracodecs and you're ready
[10:55] <libervisco> but maybe upstart will increase bootup speed for Ubuntu
[10:55] <xav> libervisco: though, last install I did, I set it up more like arch, only installing base system, and it's much better ;)
[10:55] <anon32> meh
[10:55] <lupine_85> twowordz: problems *before* it mounts / ?
[10:55] <anon32> that doesn't change the fact that the media player is by default non-functional
[10:55] <libervisco> xav, cool :)
[10:55] <xav> libervisco: it doesn't atm
[10:55] <twowordz> lupine_85, yes
[10:56] <Laks|Xeno> anyone have any experience trying to install this Distro on a mac/
[10:56] <Laks|Xeno> ?
[10:56] <eyequeue> anon32, no, it is called freedom
[10:56] <djm62> archangelpetro: the best way I've found for any flash sites is to run firefox for windows under wine, and get the flash plugin for that.  Adobe are taking heir time on updating flash for linux, and there's little you can do to help/encourage them
[10:56] <eyequeue> anon32, you seem to want non-free apps
[10:56] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: Did you have a problem or a question.. this is a help room.. For discussions and opinions we have another room
[10:56] <anon32> eyequeue: label it all you want, it's still non-functional...
[10:56] <xav> libervisco: and the ui is comparable in term of speed. maybe ubuntu gnome is a bit more bloated, but it's quite neat
[10:56] <eugman> Can you print stuff from the command line?
[10:56] <eyequeue> anon32, for non-free?  of course
[10:56] <xav> libervisco: and you can still use any wm you want
[10:56] <twowordz> lupine_85, I did custom initrds when I used gentoo so I know that you have to set the resolution of the splash in the initrd image so I would like to know the way to reinstall initrd
[10:56] <eyequeue> anon32, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:56] <libervisco> xav, indeed
[10:56] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: Due to gpl restrictions some things cannot be included off the shelf...
[10:57] <[CBLA] Green> WOW!!! there is almost 1000 ppl here.....
[10:57] <lupine_85> twowordz: mkinitfs
[10:57] <anon32> zz... how is mp3 not free? the specs are freely available, and so is liblame
[10:57] <mojo_3> I can honestly say I have tried well over 50 distros over the past 5 years.  Gentoo included(oh how I hate USE flags).  I always tweak everything and try to make sure I have every program I want working perfectly.  I just gave ubuntu another chance a couple of days ago and have gotten everything working perfectly.  even the ATI drivers, plus I am experimenting with XFS.  There is nothing left to do except to wait for more tweaks to hi
[10:57] <mojo_3> t the ubuntu forums and search for ones that I can apply from other distros... Im so bored.
[10:57] <lupine_85> or mkinitramfs
[10:57] <twowordz> lupine_85, no apt-get wizardry?
[10:57] <anon32> same with xvid
[10:57] <xav> anon32: not free as in patented
[10:57] <SkippyX> 50 distros in the last 5 years? Why?
[10:57] <archangelpetro> djm62: well i managed to get that working when i was on gentoo, both through wine (although it was very very slow).. but it also worked through the firefox binary too. So perhaps there is at least some availablity for linux ?
[10:57] <anon32> ...
[10:57] <lupine_85> nope
[10:57] <twowordz> ahhh
[10:57] <twowordz> :D
[10:57] <twowordz> all right, I'll put the efforts
[10:57] <anon32> xav: audio compression as a whole is patented, point?
[10:57] <mojo_3> Skippy.  Boredom, and wanting everything to be perfect.
[10:57] <xav> anon32: mp3 is
[10:58] <lupine_85> anon32: a $10m corporation has to be careful about what rules it breaks... it's not rocket science
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> SkippyX: Freedom of choice, flexibility
[10:58] <lupine_85> although mark shuttleworth is versed in that, as well ;
[10:58] <nozorro> anon32: read this: http://www.chillingeffects.org/patent/notice.cgi?NoticeID=464
[10:58] <eyequeue> lupine_85, :)
[10:58] <Rimu> so, mojo: you don't actually use your computer for anything, do you?
[10:58] <SkippyX> mojo_3, Ja. I guess you were bored. Based on that sort of research, though, You could publish.
[10:58] <Rimu> cos if you did, switching distros that often would be extremly disruptive....
[10:58] <mojo_3> I havnt been on a computer in 6 months.  Came back, installed ubuntu, and set up everything just right.
[10:58] <xav> anon32: fortunately audio compression isn't restricted to mp3 format
[10:58] <Rimu> :)
[10:58] <mojo_3> Skippy... I still have windows ;)
[10:58] <anon32> huh, well, some company recently patented audio compression
[10:59] <djm62> archangelpetro: nope, it's proprietary software from Adobe :( flash 9 will be available next year.  older flash stuff won't cut it for youTube, although it is available.  I've found that the default wine build on ubuntu runs it at a rasonable speed on my reasonable laptop
[10:59] <anon32> so I guess, we can't include any media player at all?
[10:59] <SkippyX> Jack_Sparrow, I wasn't questioning "why" when it comes to why are there so many distros.....but why would one person want to go through 50 distros over 5 years.
[10:59] <SkippyX> that sounds as appealing to me as driving a nail through my temples.
[10:59] <lupine_85> YouTube works fine with flash 7 here
[10:59] <eyequeue> anon32, troll elsewhere please
[10:59] <anon32> zzz
[10:59] <nozorro> anon32: we can if you pay for the lawyer when the sh** hits the fan
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> SkippyX: got it...
[10:59] <archangelpetro> djm62: weird, i had it working on gentoo? Oh well i'll do as you advised and install it through wine :D thanks very much :)
[10:59] <xav> anon32: if that is true, then probably not
[11:00] <mojo_3> Skippy.  This was purely testing.  I would go through a few distros a day sometimes.  Not too extensive of testing.  I would find something I didnt like and move on.
[11:00] <djm62> anon32: this is perilously close to trolling territory.  if you think there's a better legal solution for a worldwide completely free distro, then bring it up with the appropriate lawyers.  if you aren't a lawyer, then it's probably best to consult one...
[11:00] <lupine_85> a granted patent doesn't mean that it's iron-clad
[11:00] <Rimu> i have a CD here... when mounting it in ubuntu i don't see all the files
[11:00] <SkippyX> mojo_3, I haven't used windows in years (at home). I've been at friends houses and used their windows set-ups....and was consistently pissed off at their computers.
[11:00] <Rimu> any idea why?
[11:00] <SkippyX> I got used to having a computer that simply works.
[11:00] <ompaul> !language
[11:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:00] <lupine_85> BT patented hyperlinks a few years back, IIRC...
[11:00] <anon32> what about XViD though? it's entirely free, as far as I know
[11:00] <Jack_Sparrow> People, we need to take the discussions to #Ubuntu-offtopic so people with questions and need help can get it without filtering through the rest of this.
[11:00] <Rimu> yes
[11:00] <Rimu> you do
[11:01] <mjr> anon32, it's an mpeg-4-derivative and hence patent-encumbered
[11:01] <anon32> mpeg-4 is patented? by who?
[11:01] <Sjoerd_> hi all, is there anyone that knows a lot about putty/openssh?
[11:01] <mjr> mpeg licensing authority members
[11:01] <twowordz> sjoerd, ask :)
[11:01] <anon32> ...
[11:01] <ompaul> !ask
[11:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:01] <anon32> mjr: you know, there's no acceptable free video codec right now
[11:01] <Sjoerd_> for am receiving Server sent disconnect message type 2 (SSH_DISCONNECT_PROTOCOL_ERROR): "Too many authentication failures for root"
[11:02] <ompaul> anon32, ogg theora
[11:02] <mjr> anon32, theora. It's not as optimized as it could be, but it's there.
[11:02] <Sjoerd_> and want to know excactly how it can appear..
[11:02] <lupine_85> theora?
[11:02] <anon32> and, now that I think of it, doesn't ubuntu include mpeg2?
[11:02] <Rimu> i have a CD here... when mounting it in ubuntu i don't see all the files. both in nautilus and via a shell
[11:02] <Rimu> in windows i can see all the files
[11:02] <xav> I'm not sure about x264
[11:02] <anon32> mjr: I thought theora was in alpha/beta development?
[11:02] <twowordz> sjoerd, well there is to many authentication failures for root ... you are being bruteforced
[11:02] <Rimu> is ubuntu trying to read the wrong file system or something?
[11:02] <Laks|Xeno> Anyone know why my screen would go black during install after the loading pcbuttonssd stage?
[11:02] <mjr> (it's kinda sad that people tweak encumbered things like xvid a lot and not give that much attention to theora)
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Rimu: youcan select to see hidden files and folders..
[11:02] <eyequeue> lol, google is beta, heh
[11:02] <anon32> xav: it's a derivative of h264, which is itself a derivative of mpeg-4, which is apparently patented
[11:02] <stian> Where can I report the fact that the edgy desktop installer doesn't boot on my laptop?
[11:03] <ompaul> Rimu, what is on CD ?
[11:03] <Sjoerd_> twowordz: no i'm not being bruteforced, it are either the server settings or it is me
[11:03] <nozorro> !bugs
[11:03] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <Rimu> but wouldn't they show up using 'ls' if they were hidden?
[11:03] <anon32> !bug
[11:03] <stian> ubotu: merci
[11:03] <xav> mjr: probably true
[11:03] <Sjoerd_> twowordz: do you know, can a wrong username be the cause? Or only wrong key?
[11:03] <Rimu> ompaul: a SDK
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about merci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <stian> ubotu: no, I ment thank, silly bot
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about no, I ment thank, silly bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Rimu> there is supposed to be 3 folders and an install script.
[11:03] <mjr> anon32, the reference codec is a development version officially, yes, though the format is stable and there's beginning to be use for it (like flumotion streaming server and the cortado java applet theora viewer)
[11:03] <eyequeue> stian, also, for future reference, #ubuntu+1 for edgy matters
[11:04] <Rimu> i can see some of the files, but they're not in their folders; they just appear to be in the root
[11:04] <Rimu> bizarre
[11:04] <anon32> mjr: but how does the compression ratio compare to h264?
[11:04] <Laks|Xeno> Anyone help me with an install problem?
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Rimu: how did you untar the file
[11:04] <anon32> laks|xeno: details?
[11:04] <Rimu> it came as an iso, which i burnt to a cd
[11:04] <Rimu> mounting the iso as a virtual cd has the same effect
[11:04] <eyequeue> anon32, please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[11:04] <Rimu> where i can't see all the files
[11:04] <wims> !ask > Laks|Xeno
[11:04] <xav> anon32: you should probably ask in a more oriented video place
[11:05] <Laks|Xeno> !ask
[11:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:05] <Rimu> so i'm wondering if there is something wrong with the iso... yet that cd looks as it should in windows
[11:05] <mojo_3>  Anyone know an alternative to usplash that works with initng?  usplash craps out on the shut-down sequence.
[11:05] <mjr> anon32, I'm not sure how good h264 is; with the current reference codec, theora seems to be somewhat behind xvid in quality. And yeah, #ubuntu-offtopic would be better, I guess.
[11:05] <eyequeue> anon32, this channel has over 900 in it and is for support
[11:05] <anon32> ok
[11:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Rimu: Did yhey offer an md5 checksum to test your cd/iso
[11:05] <twowordz> sjoerd, sorry i was on the phone
[11:05] <Rimu> yes they did
[11:05] <Rimu> i should check that.......
[11:05] <twowordz> sjoerd, these messages are in the log or you get disconnected?
[11:05] <ompaul> Rimu, do this and paste the output into a pastebin of your choice "ls -al /whatever"
[11:05] <Rimu> duh. heh
[11:05] <Sjoerd_> that's ok, twowordz, maybe we can go to #putty?
[11:05] <cvt> can i password protect an archive so that it would be impossible for someone else to access in a weeks time?
[11:06] <CzarAlex`> How do I update my mysql to the  newest version? Is there a: sudo apt-get thingy i can run?
[11:06] <eyequeue> anon32, there is already a dic=scussion on this in progress over there
[11:06] <Rimu> k, 1 sec
[11:06] <anon32> cvt: yes
[11:06] <twowordz> sjoerd, you can pv me
[11:06] <Laks|Xeno> anon32 i'm installing on a g5 powermac with an ATI x850 - i have to use 'live video=ofonly' to start and then about halfway through the install he screen  goes black as it tries to load the pcbuttons** module
[11:06] <anon32> cvt: try a password of length 8 or greater
[11:06] <Sjoerd_> twowordz: will the server allow me?
[11:06] <ompaul> Rimu, in case some of the files live inside another one (like a tar.gz or something else
[11:06] <ompaul> and the windows stuff runs an executable
[11:06] <anon32> laks|xeno: ah, heard you say that earlier, sorry but not an expert here
[11:07] <cvt> anon32,  and there's no way someone can get into it [with another kind of program, etc.]  ?
[11:07] <xav> Laks|Xeno: tried the alternative install?
[11:07] <Laks|Xeno> anon32 : i think i need to stick an older video card in to install - yellowdog dies from this video card too
[11:07] <Laks|Xeno> anon32: im downloading it now
[11:07] <anon32> cvt: make sure to use 256+ bit encryption, 512 would be best
[11:08] <rcmiv> q
[11:08] <Adam> Hi. I'm trying to install (un)rar here, going by the guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_RAR_Archiver_.28rar.29
[11:08] <anon32> cvt: actually, against a distributed cracking network/supercomputer, you might want to go a bit higher and pick a password of length 15+
[11:08] <Adam> I get "E: Package rar has no installation candidate"
[11:09] <eyequeue> !repos > Adam
[11:09] <iceman> well crap,. thats two failed attempts to install the Nvidia driver, now a third install underway.
[11:09] <Sjoerd__> twowordz: phone again or does the pm not function?
[11:09] <anon32> adam: what eyequeue said, you can just download it and install from a site manually if you can't find the package with synaptic
[11:09] <iceman> crappy onboard video, and the fact Ubuntu auto detects the onboard reguardless fo the bios
[11:10] <Adam> anon32, yeah, but it looks like that guide needs updating
[11:10] <rummik> how do i have it automagically re-configure xorg?
[11:10] <anon32> adam: by the way, what package manager are you trying to use?
[11:10] <Adam> At least for AMD64 with all the recommended repos, it doesn't work.
[11:10] <Adam> anon32, apt
[11:10] <anon32> *archiver* not apt-get, synaptic, etc
[11:10] <Rimu2> rimu@rimu-ubuntu:/mnt/cdrom$ ls -al
[11:10] <Rimu2> total 124230
[11:10] <Rimu2> dr-xr-xr-x 13 root root     4096 2006-05-31 15:16 .
[11:10] <Rimu2> dr-xr-xr-x 13 root root     4096 2006-05-31 15:16 .
[11:10] <Rimu2> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root     4096 2006-07-24 03:28 ..
[11:10] <Rimu2> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root     4096 2006-07-24 03:28 ..
[11:10] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root   352186 2006-03-01 06:34 bin-bt-bg.tar.gz
[11:10] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root    83725 2006-03-01 06:34 bin-common-bg.tar.gz
[11:10] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root  8039129 2006-03-01 06:34 bin-gpl-bg.tar.gz
[11:10] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root     6332 2006-03-01 06:28 bin-lib-bg.tar.gz
[11:11] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root  2351694 2006-03-01 06:28 bin-scripts-bg.tar.gz
[11:11] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root   317543 2006-03-01 06:28 bin-util-bg.tar.gz
[11:11] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root    57745 2006-03-01 06:37 eula.pdf
[11:11] <Sjoerd__> nice Rimu2
[11:11] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root    18353 2006-03-01 06:37 GPL.txt
[11:11] <rummik> i just put a video card in (now a nVidia instead of a ati...)
[11:11] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root 50900937 2006-03-01 06:35 sdk2-toolchain.bin.tar.gz
[11:11] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root 55281517 2006-03-01 06:34 sdk2-toolchain.src.tar.gz
[11:11] <anon32> rimu2: stop that
[11:11] <Rimu2> -r--r--r--  1 root root  1070504 2006-03-01 06:34 src-common-bg.tar.gz
[11:11] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:11] <nozorro> !ops
[11:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:11] <JDahl> oohh Rimu,  you're gonna get it :)
[11:11] <ompaul> nozorro, a bit late :)
[11:11] <ompaul> Rimu, I asked you to put it into a pastebin
[11:11] <Adam> anon32, ahm, I use the default one.
[11:12] <ompaul> Rimu, not into the channel I'll wait a moment for the paste to "die"
[11:12] <Adam> anon32, "Archive Manager"
[11:12] <nozorro> ompaul: always leaving a newb margin :-)
[11:12] <anon32> mm
[11:12] <iceman> well 85% of a reinstall done, dambit. Anyone help with the Nvidia Drivers.
[11:12] <anon32> never heard of it.... p7-zip woulda been my choice, 7-zip on this windows box
[11:13] <Adam> (according to the guide, it should be at "Applications -> Accessories -> Archive Manager", but it isn't.
[11:13] <Adam> anon32, so you think I should try to apt-get p7-zip?
[11:13] <anon32> apt-get install rar?
[11:13] <Adam> will it unrar?
[11:13] <anon32> adam: yes, but it won't rar
[11:13] <sethk> Adam, perhaps the guide is a bit off or the menus have changed.  look around.
[11:13] <Adam> anon32, that's what the guide says.
[11:13] <lupine_85> no, unrar and unrar-nonfree for that
[11:13] <Rimu2> test
[11:13] <diego_cl> is there a hotkey to change from desktop ??
[11:13] <Rimu2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23165
[11:13] <sethk> iceman, what's the nvidia problem?
[11:13] <Rimu2> there we are :)
[11:14] <lupine_85> (unrar won't do more recent .rar files, most specifically those with passwords)
[11:14] <anon32> mm
[11:14] <Adam> sethk, I definitely have "Archive Manager" installed, but it's just not on the menu.
[11:14] <Adam> anon32, that's ok, I don't need to rar, just unrar.
[11:14] <anon32> lupine_85: interesting, what library does 7-zip use for rars?
[11:14] <sethk> Rimu2, ok, there is a directory listing, everything owned by root.  Is the problem that only root can read it?  if so you use mount options to fix that
[11:14] <ompaul> Rimu2, got a snapshot of it under windows?
[11:15] <lupine_85> anon32: no idea
[11:15] <anon32> I thought rimu signed off
[11:15] <Rimu2> even root can't see the files i need
[11:15] <Adam> lupine_85, will the p7-zip do a good job unraring?  or should I get a different package?  I have a lot of recent RAR backups.
[11:15] <lupine_85> what is 7zip?
[11:15] <sethk> Adam, and you installed it with apt-get?
[11:15] <Rimu2> yeah will do a paste of the screenshot :)
[11:15] <Rimu2> under win
[11:15] <anon32> lupine_85: 7zip.org
[11:15] <Adam> sethk, nope, it came preinstalled.
[11:15] <Rimu2> brb
[11:15] <ompaul> Rimu2, into a pastebin
[11:15] <anon32> it's the best archiver for windows, and it has a linux port
[11:15] <iceman> sethk installed following the howto twice, but on reboot and reseting the bios teh system hangs and the system will not boot at all.
[11:15] <sethk> Adam, what do you mean?  you bought a machine with linux already on it?
[11:15] <eyequeue> !best
[11:15] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:15] <anon32> dunno how useful the port is though
[11:16] <lupine_85> no, rar does have a really good compression ratio
[11:16] <sethk> iceman, this is after installing nvidia drivers?
[11:16] <lupine_85> but I use bz2 anyway, since it's Free(tm)
[11:16] <iceman> sethk got to install "Ubuntu" to the Onboard, then reconfigure the system to use teh nvidia drivers,
[11:16] <Adam> sethk, i.e. it got installed along with Dapper 6.06
[11:16] <anon32> lupine_85: 7z surpasses rar, and it's free too
[11:16] <eyequeue> freedom is best :)
[11:16] <Adam> ok, so what's the recommended unrar utility for Ubuntu then?
[11:16] <anon32> adam: what the article told you
[11:16] <sethk> Adam, that's not preinstalled, that just means it's part of the default install set.  effectively the answer to my question is yes.  sounds like a dapper bug.
[11:16] <iceman> sethk yes, i install the drivers, but then reboot, and the Systems trashed.
[11:16] <Adam> anon32, except it doesn't work at all ;)
[11:17] <anon32> mm
[11:17] <sethk> iceman, we're talking about video drivers now, right, not nvidia cpu etc.?
[11:17] <lupine_85> Adam: unrar
[11:17] <lupine_85> erm, unrar-nonfree
[11:17] <anon32> the most surefire way to do it would be to buy winrar's "rar" app, but it's not free in either sense
[11:17] <Adam> lupine_85, I installed the former (the later gives me the same problem)
[11:17] <chuckyp> Adam: just use tar
[11:17] <Adam> it didn't help Archive Manager to open those rars.
[11:18] <anon32> chuckyp: I thought tar doesn't have compression
[11:18] <Adam> chuckyp, I'd use 7-zip or bz2, but I have existing backups.
[11:18] <PaulVanD> Hello
[11:18] <iceman> sethk yes, the !nvidia url that the bot gives, but the install there is not reconfiguring the xorg.config file, so the onboard is used, not the nv drivers
[11:18] <chuckyp> Adam: what do you want to do create a rar file?
[11:18] <Adam> no, just unrar
[11:18] <anon32> he just wants decompression
[11:18] <lupine_85> Adam: strange. Presumably it doesn't know about "unrar-nonfree" the binary
[11:18] <Rimu2> screenshot under win http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23166
[11:18] <lupine_85> you could try uninstalling unrar and symlinking unrar to unrar-nonfree
[11:18] <anon32> !rar-nonfree
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <PaulVanD> I have a quick question .. what terminal command do I use to open up an app (say gedit), but so that program will stay open after I close the terminal?
[11:19] <anon32> huh
[11:19] <lupine_85> that "might" work in Ark
[11:19] <lupine_85> !unrar-nonfree
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <pasha601> hey guys...  my install with 6.0.1 quits complaining that X was not setup correctly... how do I get around that?
[11:19] <sethk> iceman, let me make sure I understand this
[11:19] <tizwonder> PaulVanD: command &
[11:19] <Rimu2> paul try appending a & immediatly after the command
[11:19] <habeeb> Greetings, whats the pros of the alternative cd?
[11:19] <sethk> iceman, you install ubuntu from scratch, and everything works.
[11:19] <lupine_85> ah, it's unrar that's the nonfree version
[11:19] <lupine_85> d'oh, ignore me :)
[11:19] <eugman> Habeeb, good for old computers or odd configurations.
[11:19] <sethk> iceman then you run the nvidia video drivers install program.
[11:19] <habeeb> eugman: just that?
[11:19] <Adam> lupine_85, what does it even install :)
[11:19] <sethk> iceman, then you can no longer boot the system.
[11:19] <chuckyp> Adam: sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:19] <Adam> lupine_85, I installed it, I don't even know where the binary is.
[11:20] <sethk> iceman, now, if xorg.conf is not changed, you must not have completed the nvidia video driver install.
[11:20] <anon32> mm, anyone know how I can rar a file without paying those guys that make winrar/rar?
[11:20] <lupine_85> unrar installs the non-free version - /usr/bin/unrar
[11:20] <habeeb> eugman: it didnt have package install selection, and more partitioning schemes or something? :(
[11:20] <sethk> iceman, do you get any error messages?  what happens?
[11:20] <znull> hey what tcl is using the ubuntu bots ?
[11:20] <jbroome> install the free rar
[11:20] <jbroome> der
[11:20] <ProN00b> lol, i just heard a theory, and i just wanted to share it with you even through its not nice: "Ubuntu Linux is the Nigger Version of Linux."
[11:20] <lupine_85> dpkg -L <package> lists all the files, incidentally
[11:20] <eugman> Habeeb, I believe so. essentially it's the same thing but it's just the text installer so it's more versitile and less resource intensive.
[11:20] <habeeb> eugman: ok thanks.
[11:20] <iceman> sethk ok, Compaq Motherboard, no jumper for Bios "Onbaord video, I am forced to install to teh onboard video, then install the NVidia drivers after a Install. but the How-to fails to reconfigure the Drivers
[11:20] <lupine_85> pron00b: plonk
[11:20] <habeeb> ProN00b: Why?
[11:20] <damnhil> is my patch command correct? bzip2 -dc ../patch-2.6.18-rc6.bz2 | patch -p1
[11:20] <habeeb> ProN00b: I mean, it would be actually funny if it had a reason to be  the Nigger distro. But why?
[11:21] <sethk> iceman, by "no jumper" you mean no way to disable the on board video?  these days that is done with the BIOS setup, not with a jumper.
[11:21] <lupine_85> over here, "nigger" is considered a deadly insult
[11:21] <eyequeue> !language > habeeb
[11:21] <sethk> iceman, did you check the BIOS setup for an option to turn off the video?
[11:21] <PaulVanD> tizwonder, I tried gedit & , but gedit window still closes when I close the terminal.
[11:21] <lupine_85> so not appropriate at all, really
[11:21] <Rimu2> without the space
[11:21] <iceman> sethk only ability is in bios setting to boot to the PCI slot of the Onboard. Ubuntu will bypass the bios and use the onboard no matter waht tell i reconfigure a install to use teh nvidia drivers
[11:21] <sethk> PaulVanD, use nohup
[11:21] <anon32> mm, other than the fact that it's made by an African programmer, don't see why it should
[11:21] <Rimu2> gedid&
[11:21] <habeeb> eyequeue: ? -_-
[11:21] <lupine_85> besides, it's for "Humans" - not "a subset of humans"
[11:21] <Adam> how do I find out which repos (un)rar is likely to be?
[11:21] <lupine_85> !unrar
[11:21] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:21] <eyequeue> habeeb, please desist with the swearing
[11:21] <sethk> iceman, do a text mode install from the alternate install cd
[11:21] <Sjoerd__> is there anyone available that has a good knowledge of putty/openssh? Can I pm you about this?
[11:21] <eugman> lupine_85, where is "over here"?
[11:21] <lupine_85> !info unrar
[11:21] <PaulVanD> sethk, thanks! That worked!
[11:21] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[11:21] <lupine_85> multiverse :)
[11:22] <lupine_85> UK
[11:22] <sethk> PaulVanD, np
[11:22] <pasha601> some ignorant fool probably suggested it's the "nigger version" cuz the word itself is african?!
[11:22] <iceman> sethk Ubuntu is to smart for teh Hardware, and auto detects teh Onboard reguardless of the Bios settings
[11:22] <habeeb> eyequeue: nigra is not a swearing.
[11:22] <chuckyp> Adam: you can do apt-cache search rar   and see if there is a better utility.
[11:22] <matthew_w> How could I configure it such that I could send an email with a single command in BASH?
[11:22] <anon32> !gcc
[11:22] <pasha601> can anyone suggest something for me for my install?
[11:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:22] <lupine_85> probably covered by some random anti-hate law
[11:22] <Adam> thanks all
[11:22] <pasha601> is there a text-mode?
[11:22] <sethk> iceman, I'd say that the compaq bios is dumb and doesn't have the right ability, but the effect is the same.  :)
[11:22] <eyequeue> habeeb, here it is, pluse it violates the CoC
[11:22] <Adam> !info rar
[11:22] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:22] <sethk> pasha601, yes, on the alternate cd
[11:22] <chuckyp> pasha601: ??
[11:22] <anon32> time to leave..
[11:22] <anon32> bye then
[11:22] <Adam> "Only available for i386" <- that's the key.
[11:22] <eyequeue> !CoC > habeeb
[11:22] <Adam> I'm on AMD64 here :P
[11:23] <lupine_85> habeeb: it's as unacceptable as any other racial slur, in my eyes. Now, can we stop?
[11:23] <habeeb> lupine_85: I didnt start it, but yes.
[11:23] <chuckyp> Adam: well you might have to compile something for your self then.
[11:23] <iceman> sethk had this same issue in the last release of ubuntu with a Dell system, but the HOW-To for the Nvidia drivers worked. DELL and Compaq seem alike in the bios
[11:23] <pasha601> is there a way to Alter the X.conf and then resume install? (it complains it can't find any adapters) which is funny to me cuz the setup prior to that is all "VGA" hehe
[11:23] <Adam> chuckyp, I doubt I can, it's closed source
[11:23] <lupine_85> habeeb: I know. the start got a quick /ignore ;)
[11:23] <pasha601> I'm assuming it tries to use the vesa drivers... which worked fine in 5.0.1 for me
[11:23] <Adam> don't think the source is available.
[11:24] <lupine_85> starter*
[11:24] <chuckyp> pasha601: yes you could switch to a text terminal i.e. ctrl+alt+f2 and edit the xorg.conf
[11:24] <lupine_85> unrar-free is yout only choice then :(
[11:24] <lupine_85> that, or get a 32-bit chroot going
[11:24] <lupine_85> bit of a pain though
[11:24] <pasha601> chunkyp: how do I resume setup if it already quit with the error (x can't find adapter)
[11:24] <iceman> anyone got to old howto url for the nvidia drivers
[11:24] <chuckyp> pasha601: or you could boot with a vesa flag.  I thought there was a safe video option on the boot cd?
[11:24] <chuckyp> pasha601: setup of what?
[11:25] <Adam> lupine_85, yeah, I've been looking for a replacement for Skype just so I won't have to do that :)
[11:25] <pasha601> chuckyp: there is, safe vga quits too ... setup = install (sorry hehe)
[11:25] <iceman> brb let me reboot to the install :(
[11:25] <nvb> schalft gut
[11:25] <chuckyp> pasha601: what type of video card do you have?
[11:25] <znull> any ideea what tcl is using ubuntu eggdrops? thanks
[11:25] <lupine_85> if you want to use the Skype protocol, you won't find one -- at elast, not yet
[11:26] <lupine_85> the protocol is rumored to have been reverse-engineered
[11:26] <pasha601> chuckyp: it's an onboard adaptor.. I think intel..
[11:26] <lupine_85> regardless, ekiga and linphone are the best SIP softphones I've seen :)
[11:26] <jhasse> How can i disable the "firefox is starting..." (dunno the exact english sentence) tab in the taskbar?
[11:26] <chuckyp> pasha601: well I don't know how to resume setup possibly someone else would.
[11:26] <Adam> lupine_85, too bad both don't have Win32 version
[11:27] <lupine_85> ekiga does...
[11:27] <chuckyp> Adam: you could use a windows version with wine
[11:27] <frying_fish> jhasse: you can't, its part of it opening, but hasn't drawn the window yet.
[11:27] <pasha601> chuckyp: do you know the flag to force vesa driver during initial boot?
[11:27] <Adam> chuckyp, yeah, that's the other option :)
[11:27] <Adam> lupine_85, really?  btw, what makes it "best"?
[11:27] <lupine_85> it has all the features "I" need, and no extra stuff
[11:27] <nozorro> jhasse: editing the menu entry (manually) or creating a new one
[11:27] <lupine_85> e.g. linphone lets me use my second soundcard for voice calls
[11:27] <chuckyp> pasha601: Well if you selected the safe vga i'm pretty sure that uses vesa.  But if you search the forums for you're video adapter i'm sure you'll find the fix.
[11:27] <lupine_85> ekiga is much prettier :)
[11:28] <Adam> lupine_85, how's the speech quality?
[11:28] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:28] <pasha601> chuckyp: i'll try the forums... thanks for the ideas!
[11:28] <jhasse> frying_fish: it doesn't work in some apps like the bluefish editor. It's displayed when it's already opened
[11:28] <Adam> lupine_85, http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=5 -> "windows    * No files available yet." :(
[11:28] <MetaMorfoziS> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[11:29] <skunkworks> Hello.  I just installed the bluetooth obex client on my dapper install.  When I try to run it - it doesn't open until I unplug my usb bluetooth adaptor.  then the client opens.  If I plug the bluetooth adaptor back in - I cannot scan for devices.  This is a targus adaptor.
[11:29] <jhasse> nozorro: how can i edit it in the menu entry?
[11:29] <nozorro> jhasse: sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/appname.desktop, set StartupNotify=false
[11:30] <lupine_85> Adam: depends on the codec. Pretty good generally
[11:30] <nozorro> jhasse: creating a custom launcher might never enable StartupNotify i believe
[11:30] <sethk> Iceman, there really is nothing special to do about the nvidia drivers.
[11:30] <Iceman> ok, someone walk me through the Nvidia install please.
[11:30] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[11:30] <sethk> Iceman, there is a howto, but it won't solve your problem.
[11:30] <lupine_85> ekiga on windows: http://snapshots.seconix.com/win32.php
[11:31] <sethk> Iceman, I believe only a text mode install will solve your problem.
[11:31] <Adam> lupine_85, cool, I hope I can get my friends to use it.
[11:31] <Iceman> sethk the prior ubuntu release had a easy howto that worked with ease.
[11:31] <chuckyp> !botsnack
[11:31] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:31] <Iceman> !nvidia
[11:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:31] <jhasse> nozorro: cool, thx. What can i do if i wanna disable it for files in nautilus too?
[11:32] <lupine_85> Adam: since it's SIP, there's a load of different clients they could use
[11:32] <nozorro> jhasse: no idea, but pls. check the gnome system admin guide
[11:32] <lupine_85> SIP is an open protocol :)
[11:32] <PM^> i have installed ubuntu dapper. apparently i have iptables installed but i do not know if it is running or not. I checked rcX.d
[11:32] <flaco> hi.. .any idea why I cant access to http://weblogs.inf.udp.cl from ubuntu with firefox, but in windows with firefox i can?
[11:32] <PM^> and it is not started there...
[11:32] <sethk> Iceman, ok.  when you decide to stop wasting time, do the text mode install and we'll help you get the desktop installed and configured
[11:32] <PM^> does that mean i do not have a firewall running?
[11:32] <sethk> Iceman, or, of course, you can continue to use breezy.
[11:33] <lupine_85> Adam: you can even get hardware (ATAs) that you plug into your router; a normal phone plugs into that, and you can make calls as usual
[11:33] <sm> what's the easiest way to gather several scanned jpegs into a single pdf file ?
[11:33] <Iceman> sethk whats teh text install entail, get me started, we manualy editing the XORG.Config file
[11:33] <nozorro> jhasse: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/
[11:34] <Iceman> I am booted to the system without the drivers, so were going from a fresh install
[11:34] <Adam> lupine_85, interesting. btw, there's a rumor Skypw will never be available for 64 as it is too tightly coupled with some 32bit-only libraries
[11:34] <Homer> is edgy going to built with xgl?
[11:34] <DJGummikuh> hey how do i set up sshd "the gentoo way"?
[11:34] <sethk> Iceman, the text mode install will install the system without configuring the desktop to use any particular set of video drivers.  (you answer the options to make that happen, of course)
[11:34] <Crescendo> I make the motion to have compiz / xgl or whatever installed by default if the graphics card can support it - or have the installer ask - or have it as an option to turn on.
[11:34] <Crescendo> Because it's REALLY annoying trying to get it to work.
[11:34] <lupine_85> DJGummikuh: first you need a portage tree ;)
[11:34] <sethk> Iceman, then you will not be in the situation where installing drivers somehow borks your machine.
[11:35] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: ??
[11:35] <sethk> Iceman, or, as I said, wait a while until dapper is more stable, and stay with breezy.
[11:35] <DJGummikuh> ah I'M DUMB
[11:35] <Lard-O-Lad> does the Dapper Live CD need extra boot options to enable Bluetooth support?
[11:35] <DJGummikuh> hey how do i set up sshd "the ubuntu way"?
[11:35] <eyequeue> Crescendo, #ubuntu-xgl btw
[11:35] <lupine_85> Adam: doubtful - most of the world will be 64-bit in a few years
[11:35] <nozorro> Lard-O-Lad: i think bt is enabled by default
[11:35] <skizzo> Oh man - anyone familiar with protftp?
[11:35] <xav> Adam: any reason why these libs couldn't be ported to 64 bit ?
[11:35] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: better? ^^ :)
[11:35] <lupine_85> DJGummikuh: better :) install openssh-server
[11:35] <chuckyp> !tell DJGummikuh about ssh
[11:35] <Adam> lupine_85, yeah, the same rumor claims Skype (in its current state) is doomed :)
[11:35] <sethk> Iceman, this is a workaround, not a solution, but I believe it is your best option.
[11:36] <Iceman> sethk were running gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf then i take it
[11:36] <lupine_85> well, we can all hope
[11:36] <nozorro> Lard-O-Lad: if you install from the live cd that is
[11:36] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: that generates the keys as well?
[11:36] <sethk> Iceman, no, why would you do that?
[11:36] <xav> lupine_85: hey, I hope my box will still be there in a few years, and many ppl do
[11:36] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, host keys, not individual
[11:36] <lupine_85> DJGummikuh: it automatically generates a key, IIRC
[11:36] <Lard-O-Lad> im having issues with my bluetooth keyboard/mouse it works fine until X starts, what can i do to make it work?
[11:36] <Iceman> sethk sorry i ment sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:36] <lupine_85> xav: ok, most of the people who companies like Skype etc. concern themselves with ;)
[11:36] <DJGummikuh> eyequeue: lupine_85 tryin
[11:37] <lupine_85> the vast majority of the public are duped into buying a new pc every 3 years or so
[11:37] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, dsa and rsa and their .pubs
[11:37] <mby> Do YOu know guys where mysql stores data , because I run unlimited loop and it filled my disc with data in 100% :/
[11:37] <grimx> how do i create a symbolic link to my libjavaplugin_oji.so to put in my mozilla plugins directroy??
[11:37] <sethk> Iceman, I would install the nvidia drivers first, then do the dpkg-reconfigure
[11:37] <alex222> how do you install a .deb file
[11:37] <mby> And i need to delete some of it
[11:37] <damnhil> what does "Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?" mean?
[11:37] <Iceman> on, so can i apt-get the driver ?
[11:37] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys, im using vsftpd, my normal users can browse all the directories under / , how do i prevent this?
[11:37] <eyequeue> alex222, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[11:37] <lupine_85> none of it is the original components, though... ;)
[11:37] <xav> lupine_85: window wouldn't be able to run 32bit apps?
[11:37] <Iceman> I'll open a term, just tell me what to type
[11:38] <Lard-O-Lad> grimx: man ln, you shoudl find you answers there
[11:38] <lupine_85> xav: I'd imagine vista+1 will be x86_64 only
[11:38] <grimx> ok
[11:38] <twowordz> lupine_85, I removed splash from my kernel arguments in grub and the problem is gone :D
[11:38] <lupine_85> cool :)
[11:39] <Iceman> sethk sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx first
[11:39] <Adam> is there a way to set the task-bar icon of programs?
[11:39] <twowordz> lupine_85, looks like the is a problem with the new usplash on some videocards
[11:39] <surgy> ubotu ati
[11:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <lupine_85> usplash--
[11:39] <lupine_85> they could at least make it look good
[11:39] <twowordz> :)
[11:39] <lupine_85> that's the one thing SuSE had going for it - 1024x768 terminal
[11:39] <eyequeue> Adam, right click, properties
[11:39] <xav> lupine_85: which one?
[11:39] <lupine_85> absolutely beautiful
[11:40] <twowordz> I could do a better one but I can live without it
[11:40] <lupine_85> erm, OpenSuSE 10.1
[11:40] <bundor> hola
[11:40] <surgy> hi
[11:40] <Iceman> sethk walk me through, where do i start ?
[11:40] <lupine_85> hi :)
[11:40] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: I'm running on gentoo so "the gentoo way" just came to my mind ^^
[11:40] <xav> lupine_85: opensuse is using usplash too?
[11:40] <surgy> ubotu your hot stuff
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your hot stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <bundor> alguien habla espaol?
[11:40] <lupine_85> xav: no
[11:40] <nozorro> !es
[11:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:40] <lupine_85> !es
[11:40] <eyequeue> !es > bundor
[11:40] <bundor> !es
[11:40] <nozorro> lol
[11:40] <bundor> :S
[11:40] <Adam> eyequeue, right-click doesn't show properties. I mean the icon you see when you alt-tab.
[11:40] <lupine_85> sorry, I was being slighty confusing there. They use standard kernel stuff with a *very* pretty background
[11:40] <DJGummikuh> !jp
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <lupine_85> gasp!
[11:41] <lupine_85> !lj
[11:41] <sethk> Iceman, I'm not sure where you are.  I'm not clear on what you did that caused your system to not boot.
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <xav> lupine_85: I admit usplash isn't very nice in dapper, but you should see edgy's current one :)
[11:41] <Adam> Vim decided to display a generic white square instead of that lovely green logo.
[11:41] <xav> it's lovely
[11:41] <lupine_85> no lobjan?!
[11:41] <lupine_85> xav: I'm holding off a bit :)
[11:41] <sethk> Iceman, back up.  what, specifically, did you run?  a .bin file downloaded from nvidia's web site?
[11:41] <eyequeue> Adam, the gnome-panel icon is right clickable
[11:41] <xav> lupine_85: I'm kidding btw, it's meant to be ugly
[11:42] <Iceman> sethk were startinf from scratch, a fresh install. so were in a working system at this point.
[11:42] <sethk> Iceman, ok, but we don't want to repeat what you did earlier that borked your system.  So tell me what that was, exactly.
[11:42] <bundor> thank you byesss ; )
[11:42] <eyequeue> Adam, perhaps also in applications > accessories > alacarte
[11:42] <thedash> if I am assigning variables in a bash script, and using cut and sed to edit out parts, does the cutting/editing work right-to-left or left-to-right ?
[11:42] <gomek> Hey, I created a custom CD, but for some reason on my custom CD I am required to input a password to use sudo (I don't know the password).  The normal live CD doesn't require a password.  What can I do to change it back?
[11:42] <Iceman> sethk nothing has been run yet, i am in a complete fresh install
[11:42] <eyequeue> gomek, your user password
[11:43] <Adam> eyequeue, yes, but when the program actually runs, it still displays the generic icon.
[11:43] <GigaClon> I know there is a way for firefox to pretend to be IE what is it?
[11:43] <Iceman> sethk i followed this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but twice it has locked the system up
[11:43] <eyequeue> Adam, no idea
[11:43] <xav> I didn't know a fresh install did any good to an os other than windows
[11:43] <eyequeue> GigaByte_, install bad extensions
[11:43] <sethk> Iceman, ah, ok, that's what I wanted to know.
[11:43] <Adam> i.e. Vim has the logo icon in the menu and in the panel, but when executed, it's represented in the alt-tab menu by a generic white square.
[11:43] <sethk> Iceman, let me review that for a moment, because I do it a bit differently.
[11:43] <Adam> eyequeue, ah, thanks anyway.
[11:43] <sethk> xav, it is possible to mess up your system to the point where a reinstall may be quicker than fixing it.
[11:44] <sethk> xav, it doesn't happen just by doing normal stuff, as it frequently does in windows, but it is possible.  :)
[11:44] <gomek> eyequeue:  I don't think that the ubuntu user is even created until the live CD is booted.  am I wrong?  how do I change ubuntu's password when it doesn't exist in a chroot environment?
[11:44] <nozorro> Adam: yes that icon is kinda 'hard-wired', could only be changed from source-code
[11:44] <Iceman> on with the nvidia-glx one with the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers, both failed. Proper drivers is the nvidia-glx one for this card.
[11:44] <xav> sethk: that also depends on your skills, but you are probably right
[11:44] <eyequeue> gomek, you could run "passwd" as that user, in a terminal, i suppose
[11:44] <DJGummikuh> xav: I already had several reinstalls under several distributions out of pure dumbness :-) normally a reinstall is unneeded in linux
[11:45] <sethk> Iceman, do you want to try installing it a different way?  since the correct way isn't working for you?
[11:45] <Adam> nozorro, *nod*, I guess it's because I had to install Vim7 from some .deb I found somwhere. not having it in the repos is so annoying.
[11:45] <eyequeue> gomek, i've done it and know it works, though it's not the ideal you want
[11:45] <sethk> Iceman, you need to have kernel source installed so that you can build the kernel module.
[11:45] <gomek> eyequeue:  I'll try...
[11:45] <Iceman> sethk what ever it takes to get the card working.
[11:45] <mby> Do YOu know guys where mysql stores data , because I run unlimited loop and it filled my disc with data in 100% :/ I need to delete it know
[11:45] <eyequeue> mby, /var
[11:46] <ljlolel> so
[11:46] <sethk> Iceman, since we don't know why it is failing, I can't guarantee that it will work, but the chances are good.
[11:46] <Adam> mby, did you try to "drop database"?
[11:46] <nozorro> Adam: not because of that, but because some apps do their own thing, not belonging to either gnome or kde
[11:46] <sethk> Iceman, pm me, there is too much traffic in the main channel.
[11:46] <Adam> nozorro, hm, I thought gVim is pretty firmly in the Gnome realm...
[11:47] <nozorro> Adam: no, not by any standards
[11:47] <mby> i can't because there is : ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run /mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[11:47] <eyequeue> mby, how many partitions do you have there?
[11:47] <xav> DJGummikuh: actually, I'm talking but I reinstall often myself. At the beginning, it was without any reason, because I thought it would fix things somehow like on windows :) and now, I still do it because I'm very bored, I recently tried a few distrib again
[11:47] <Lard-O-Lad> how does ubuntu for amd64 perform compared to ubuntu x86? is there a noticible difference?
[11:47] <xav> Lard-O-Lad: yes, you may have a few additional problems
[11:47] <mby> one ext and 2 ntfs
[11:47] <eyequeue> mby, no wonder you have troubles
[11:48] <xav> Lard-O-Lad: mostly with weird patented stuff
[11:48] <eyequeue> mby, ls /var/lib/mysql/
[11:48] <nozorro> Adam: you will see similar behavior with other desktop apps
[11:48] <Adam> it's definitely harder to get some packages for AMD64 compared to i386
[11:48] <eyequeue> mby, then, du -h /var/lib/mysql/
[11:48] <Iceman> sethk ? get those pm's
[11:48] <sethk> Iceman, no.  is your nick registered with freenode?  if not, the pm won't work
[11:49] <Adam> nozorro, heh, weird. Vim7's icon displays ok in Windows, but it has several more severe GUI problems there.
[11:49] <eyequeue> mby, i guess now you see the disadvantage of a monolithic / :)
[11:49] <Lard-O-Lad> xav: can you elaborate on what kinds of performace increases there were?
[11:49] <Iceman> dont think i am anylonger.
[11:49] <eyequeue> mby, not laughing at you, just recommending otherwise for your next install
[11:49] <xav> Lard-O-Lad: I heard between none and a very slight one
[11:49] <surgy> i get an error when i try fglrxinfo
[11:50] <surgy> actually a ton of errors
[11:50] <mby> i don't understand : 676K    ./mysql
[11:50] <mby> 164K    ./pit
[11:50] <mby> 148K    ./bytnar
[11:50] <mby> so how is that possible
[11:50] <nozorro> Adam: hmm i would expect that.  anyway linux apps can be 'gnome-compliant' in varying degrees. just because it fits in nicely doesn't mean it's a gnome app (in the strict sense)
[11:50] <lupine_85> mby: it's somewhere else then.
[11:50] <mby> what has got my mempry ?
[11:50] <mby> memory
[11:50] <Iceman> sethk guess I first need to just "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" that correct ?
[11:50] <surgy> anyone mind looking at my errors?
[11:50] <xav> Lard-O-Lad: you might find a particular app that runs better, but you won't see any difference for the desktop as a whole
[11:51] <sethk> Iceman, you can try that if you like.  as I told you, I don't do it that way.
[11:51] <ton> how can i see the broadband used for my clients ?
[11:51] <Adam> nozorro, yeah, what's funny is that under Win32 the gui (which seems to be GTK?) is quirky, but the icon works. in Ubuntu the gui is solid, but the icon doesn't :P
[11:51] <sethk> Iceman, I can't see that it would mess up your system, though, so try it first.
[11:51] <surgy> ubotu ati
[11:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:51] <DJGummikuh> how do I add services to a runlevel? so that it gets started during bootup?
[11:51] <Adam> ton, you mean bandwidth
[11:51] <Iceman> sethk well just start me someplace.
[11:52] <CromagDK> !twinview
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <sethk> Iceman, can't you register your nick?
[11:52] <surgy> anyone?
[11:52] <Iceman> sethk how ?
[11:52] <Lard-O-Lad> can i install ubuntu on a 1gig USB Stick?
[11:52] <geckko> Tout le monde parle anglais?
[11:52] <nozorro> Adam: might well be because gtk on win32, yes
[11:52] <ton> yeah ADam
[11:52] <Iceman> brb one minute
[11:52] <sethk> someone tell iceman how to register his nick with freenode?
[11:52] <Flannel> DJGummikuh: /etc/rc#.d/ and then put a symlink in init.d -- or, maybe just the former
[11:52] <Adam> DJGummikuh, I used /etc/rcS.d/
[11:52] <surgy> iceman type /msg nickserv register iceman
[11:52] <GigaClon> anyone know how to spoof IE-only sites from Firefox?
[11:53] <xav> geckko: no, but we try
[11:53] <ton> how can i see the bandwith used for my clients ?
[11:53] <DJGummikuh> so there is no program for that? a runlevel editor perhaps?
[11:53] <Flannel> GigaClon: the "User Agent Switcher" plugin
[11:53] <ala1> how do I login to a command line without x
[11:53] <Adam> sethk, /msg nickserv register <passwd>
[11:53] <Lard-O-Lad> GigaClon: I think you can change the User Agent
[11:53] <DJGummikuh> I'm surprised I thought ubuntu has a gui for just about everything
[11:53] <surgy> i need someone to look at alot of my fglrx errors please
[11:53] <lupine_85> GigaClon: about:config
[11:53] <lupine_85> IIRC
[11:53] <sethk> Adam, too late, he's gone.  :)
[11:53] <Flannel> ala1: ctrl-alt-f# (1-6, 7 gets you back to X)
[11:53] <thephunkizm> how is ubuntu pronounced?
[11:53] <xav> geckko: there is probably a #ubuntufr channel
[11:53] <sethk> Adam, but thanks
[11:53] <thephunkizm> =P
[11:53] <lupine_85> you-bun-too
[11:53] <Adam> sethk, sure :)
[11:53] <Flannel> thephunkizm: oo-boon-too
[11:54] <ala1> thanks
[11:54] <Adam> thedash, I just call it "the awesome dragon"
[11:54] <surgy> hey lupine_85 i remember you :)
[11:54] <thephunkizm> cool, that's what i thought!  woohoo!  i'm the winner of an argument ;)
[11:54] <DJGummikuh> Flannel: that's how I would pronounce it
[11:54] <eyequeue> i say it without theleading y ... see how it is pronounced in the Examples directory i guess
[11:54] <Lard-O-Lad> theres that video of Mandella who says it in a good african accent
[11:54] <gregb> I have a problem getting ubuntu 6.06 LTX x86_64 installed on my ML370 G5 with Smart Array p400.  It prompts for language and location then sits forever with a blank blue screen.  Any help?
[11:54] <GigaClon> what line im I looking for lupine_85
[11:54] <Flannel> GigaClon: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
[11:54] <Adam> thedash, as my login screen has a wallpaper of one.
[11:54] <thedash> Adam: thats great, what has it to do with me?
[11:54] <sethk> gregb, try a text mode install with the alternate cd
[11:54] <xav> DJGummikuh: how do you know
[11:54] <lupine_85> GigaClon: anything with user agent in it, I'd imagine
[11:54] <eyequeue> Lard-O-Lad, yeah, too bad no livecd will play audio here, and i can't get that file off the dang cd :(((
[11:54] <Iceman> sethk ok think im in
[11:54] <lupine_85> I've never visited a site that broken
[11:54] <Inash> error: W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.0/libstdc++6-4.0-dev_4.0.3-1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[11:54] <Inash>   Bad header line
[11:54] <Flannel> GigaClon: that plugin can switch back/forth etc easily
[11:55] <Adam> thedash, you never know... ;)
[11:55] <Inash> from synaptic package manager !?
[11:55] <jwl007> anyone here have an orinoco card they got to work with ubuntu?
[11:55] <gregb> sethk: thanks,  I'll look into that option
[11:55] <sethk> Iceman, ok, try to pm.  after you were gone, adam said to register :        /msg nickserv register password
[11:55] <DJGummikuh> xav: how do I know what?
[11:55] <xav> DJGummikuh: that we all pronounce this the same way
[11:55] <Lard-O-Lad> eyequeue: heh, im fooling around with the live cd too, it look me ~1 hr to ge the resolution right and for ubuntu to find my keyboard
[11:55] <DJGummikuh> what is the default runlevel in ubuntu? "runlevel" tells me N 2
[11:55] <lupine_85> 2
[11:55] <xav> DJGummikuh: oo-boon-too
[11:55] <nozorro> DJGummikuh: yes, 2
[11:55] <DJGummikuh> xav: ? I don't know but this is how "I" pronounce it :)
[11:55] <mikvinci93> hi
[11:55] <sethk> gregb, not a fix, but usuallly a lot less aggravating then figuring out what is going on.  after all, once you've installed, any work on isolating and installer problem is wasted.
[11:55] <Flannel> xav: oo-boon-too is how it's pronounced
[11:55] <lupine_85> not that it matter - 2-5 are apparently identikit
[11:56] <Iceman> whats the command to change handles ?
[11:56] <DJGummikuh> its the way we pronounce it in germany :)
[11:56] <jwl007> Iceman, /nick
[11:56] <eyequeue> Iceman, chhandle ... what is a handle anyway?
[11:56] <TLE> AskHL
[11:56] <AskHL> hello
[11:56] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: are you a pointer? :)
[11:56] <iceman24k> ok
[11:56] <jwl007> Iceman24k, type /me to say an "action" as well :)
[11:57] <jwl007> :)
[11:57] <lupine_85> DJGummikuh: @lupine returns -1
[11:57] <lupine_85> so probably not
[11:57] <DJGummikuh> haha there comes the windows user @ jwl007 :D
[11:57] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: lol
[11:57] <lupine_85> ...pascal...
[11:57] <jwl007> lol
[11:57] <DJGummikuh> so what is the default runlevel in ubuntu now? 2?
[11:57] <jwl007> we're not all bad now
[11:57] <lupine_85> 2
[11:57] <DJGummikuh> jwl007: yes you are :)
[11:58] <DJGummikuh> lupine_85: you keep pointing? ;-)
[11:58] <lupine_85> can't think of anything to do with it!
[11:58] <marta> q?:S
[11:58] <Jimmey> !restrictedFormats
[11:58] <xav> lupine_85: qemu?
[11:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:58] <jwl007> DJGummikuh, I would be an ubuntu addict if I could get my res above 800x600 and my orinoco wireless card to work :)
[11:58] <lupine_85> vmware-player
[11:58] <xav> is that free?
[11:58] <marta> aski q ablais tos en ingles o q??
[11:58] <Flannel> !es
[11:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:58] <DJGummikuh> jwl007: hmm.. orinoco shouldn't be a problem and a resolution above (8x6)100 should also be possible
[11:58] <xav> free as in doesnt cost money
[11:59] <lupine_85> not Free, but free, yes
[11:59] <lupine_85> the server is also free
[11:59] <xav> ah
[11:59] <jwl007> DJGummikuh, not with my chipset unfortunately.. Intel i810 stinks
[11:59] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, 2
[11:59] <marta> hablar en espaol
[11:59] <nozorro> DJGummikuh: we told you alredy
[11:59] <DJGummikuh> jwl007: this is no chipset problem its most certainly a monitor setting option
[11:59] <DJGummikuh> AH LOL
[11:59] <DJGummikuh> sorry
[11:59] <Flannel> !es
[11:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:59] <DJGummikuh> thought this was a gag from lupine_85 -.-
[11:59] <nozorro> !es > marta
[11:59] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, but ubuntu isn't runlevel based
[12:00] <DJGummikuh> eyequeue: it isn't?
[12:00] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, that's those rpm distros
[12:00] <DJGummikuh> now you're really telling me something i didn't know
[12:00] <theBeno> Does anyone know how I can remove grub and install ubuntu?
[12:00] <theBeno> I mean, lilo, sorry.
[12:00] <jwl007> exit
[12:00] <eyequeue> DJGummikuh, 2 3 4 5 all the same
[12:00] <theBeno> Remove grub and install lilo instead.
[12:00] <pfein> how can I stop gdm from starting on boot?
[12:00] <Flannel> theBeno: you want to remove lilo and install grub? or remove grub and install lilo?
[12:00] <xav> theBeno: just overwrite the mbr
[12:00] <DJGummikuh> eyequeue: so where do I add it at best? any of them? all of them?
[12:00] <eyequeue> pfein, man update-rc.d
[12:00] <theBeno> xav, how would I go about doing that?