[12:10] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on
[12:10] <DjStiky> ok
[12:10] <PeqNP> quit
[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> DjStiky, hmm, i have no idea
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> ask again in a sec, someone else may be able to help you
[12:12] <Hawkwind> DjStiky: You enter the password you created during initial install
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, thats not working
[12:12] <DjStiky> Hawkwind, that doesnt work
[12:12] <Hawkwind> DjStiky: Really ?
[12:12] <Hawkwind> DjStiky: Try this:  sudo passwd   or sudo passwd su
[12:12] <Hawkwind> DjStiky: Create a password for a traditional root account
[12:12] <JohnFlux> !paste
[12:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:13] <DjStiky> ok... I'll give it a shot.
[12:13] <DjStiky> gotta reboot. lol
[12:13] <DjStiky> thanks
[12:13] <Hawkwind> If it still doesn't work, he can always su -  and then run systemsettings from there possibly
[12:17] <osh_> Perhaps a weird question, but is there some way to change the cpu-governors through the command-line? I'd like the computer to slow down a bit certain hours of the day.
[12:22] <menace_> is there a program like limewire for linux?
[12:23] <jmichaelx> menace_: frostwire
[12:23] <menace_> i checked for that...its not in adept
[12:23] <marey> hi, does anyone knows cupsd web admin password?
[12:23] <jmichaelx> menace_: you need to modify your sources.list.... there is a repo that contains it
[12:23] <marey> i tried root
[12:23] <marey> but doesnt work
[12:23] <osh_> menace_: mldonkey; amule; xmule? Not limewire though.
[12:24] <lupine_85> marey: cups:cups? cupsd:cupsd?
[12:24] <menace_> where could i get the repo michael?
[12:24] <lupine_85> ah, cupsys:x:100:106::/home/cupsys:/bin/false
[12:24] <lotusleaf> I have a floppy drive but no line for the floppy in fstab, is this why hald storage keeps jumping around every few seconds without end?
[12:24] <lupine_85> so presumably cupsys:cupsys
[12:24] <jmichaelx> marey: try 'admin'.... i am not sure about that, but seems like it worked for me
[12:25] <marey> jmichaelx: i tried 'admin' but doesnt works
[12:25] <marey> I'm really startin' to despair
[12:25] <osh_> I think the web-interface for cups is disabled. It was when I tried it some year ago or so.
[12:25] <jmichaelx> menace_: try editing your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncommenting all of the commented repos
[12:26] <alex___> has anyone installed vista through vmware?
[12:26] <lupine_85> alex___: tried and failed
[12:26] <lupine_85> osh_: the web interface is up here
[12:26] <marey> does anyone knows how to set up a lexmark z53 printer
[12:26] <alex___> did u get it installed a different way?
[12:27] <osh_> lupine_85: right. it was a while ago that i tried. bloody annoying. had to jump through a lot of hoops to get it to work. =(
[12:27] <osh_> lupine_85: good thing it works now then.
[12:27] <lupine_85> hehe
[12:27] <lupine_85> alex___: no
[12:27] <lupine_85> simply put, it was a miserable failure
[12:28] <menace_> jmichaelx: how do i uncomment all the commented repos?...sorry..im new to linux
[12:28] <alex___> i think i'm headed in that direction
[12:30] <jmichaelx> menace_: open a terminal and type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", enter your password, and when it comes up, go through and remove all of the '#' symbols in from of each repo line. when you are done, click control-x and then select yes
[12:30] <sseleman> how do I save  my "X Window configuration file"
[12:30] <menace_> ok thank you very much
[12:30] <jmichaelx> menace_: be sure not to modify anything else.... just remove the pound symbols
[12:31] <menace_> is it ok that the words are moved a little?
[12:32] <Kr4t05_> Stupid Microsoft product activation. ><
[12:32] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, what if the # symbol precedes like this # Automatically generated sources.list
[12:32] <menace_> ok all the # symbols are gone
[12:32] <Xcalibur> yo, I have a Cannon IP6000, and I can't get it to work in my PC?
[12:32] <jmichaelx> i don't think that matters... although i hope you know not to remove the pound symbols around the descriptions... just the repo lines
[12:33] <BluesKaj> err looks like this: # Automatically generated sources.list
[12:33] <Xcalibur> how do I get the printer to work
[12:33] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:33] <menace_> is frostwire now in adept or what?
[12:33] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Try setting it up in systemsettings and use CUPS
[12:34] <Hawkwind> !info frostwire
[12:34] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[12:34] <jmichaelx> menace_: in your terminal, type "sudo apt-get update"
[12:34] <Hawkwind> menace_: Nope
[12:34] <menace_> update : done
[12:34] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: is it not in one of the normal repos?
[12:34] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Nope or else ubotu would have info about it
[12:34] <Hawkwind> !frostwire
[12:34] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:34] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[12:34] <Xcalibur> what would be the URL to it
[12:35] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:35] <Hawkwind> You can compile it there, but I wouldn't waste my time on p2p apps
[12:35] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: URL to what ?
[12:35] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: If you mean CUPS, http://localhost:631
[12:35] <BluesKaj> WTF ? : NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[12:35] <jmichaelx> menace_: well, you needed to uncomment those lines anyways....
[12:35] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Just import it
[12:36] <jmichaelx> menace_: i know one way you could get frostwire, but some in here may shoot me if i tell you how lol
[12:36] <BluesKaj> do I get rid of the Keys that don't work ?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> import, How?
[12:36] <Xcalibur> to the USB printer, it won't let me select USB from the printer type select?
[12:37] <sseleman> how do I save  my "X Window configuration file"?
[12:37] <Hawkwind> sseleman: Are you editing your xorg.conf ?
[12:37] <alex___> lupine_85 where did u fail?
[12:37] <menace_> micheal,,,it says my pm to you is blocked
[12:37] <Xcalibur> ok, it's a IP6000
[12:37] <sseleman> I just updated my ati video card drivers
[12:38] <sseleman> and it told me to save them
[12:38] <Xcalibur> it doesn't have the driver in the list?
[12:38] <Hawkwind> sseleman: I'm not following exactly what you are asking
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hawkwind, import the keys,  How?
[12:38] <Hawkwind> menace_: You need to register your nick or he needs to register his
[12:38] <menace_> i need to register
[12:38] <Xcalibur> the only printer driver for it is iP4000
[12:38] <lupine_85> alex___: right after clicking "install"
[12:39] <menace_> yes i still get them jmichealx
[12:39] <sseleman> hawkwind: it just says to "save your X Window configuration file" and I'm not sure what that entails
[12:39] <Hawkwind> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 40976EAF437D05B5 && gpg --export --armor 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:39] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: ^^^^^
[12:39] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Try that, should work
[12:39] <menace_> jmichealx...why?
[12:39] <Hawkwind> sseleman: Are you editing the file ?
[12:40] <Hawkwind> sseleman: If so, that's the only way you can save it is if you've made changes
[12:40] <menace_> and im running kubuntu..not ubuntu
[12:40] <Przemcio78> is there a beta of adobe flashplayer9 for linux already ?
[12:40] <sseleman> I believe it has been edited
[12:40] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: No
[12:40] <sseleman> I just need to know how to reach it
[12:40] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: No new flash for Linux until after the first of the year
[12:40] <Hawkwind> sseleman: It's located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:40] <sseleman> sweet
[12:41] <sseleman> thanks
[12:41] <Kr4t05_> OMG
[12:41] <Kr4t05_> VMware > The world
[12:41] <Hawkwind> sseleman: If it's not open or anything, then it probably doesn't need to be saved
[12:41] <Przemcio78> Hawkwind: you mean official release i mean beta
[12:41] <alex___> lupline_85 what happened when u tried to install?
[12:41] <menace_> whats the worst that could happen with this new program jmicheal?
[12:41] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: No, no version at all until after the first of the year for Linux
[12:41] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: We won't even see a beta.  We'll get the first release for Linux after the first of the year and it will be flash 9 final
[12:42] <Xcalibur> somone plaz give me an alternate driver to select, thats like universal or something?
[12:42] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Have you googled for your printer at all ?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> thx  Hawkwind, it did work for one kEY :)
[12:42] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: I know nothing about that brand so I can't offer anymore assistance than that unfortunately
[12:42] <Przemcio78> but they promised public beta :(
[12:42] <Kr4t05_> Hah! Thanks to VMware, I can permanantly kiss my windows partition good bye. :>
[12:42] <Xcalibur> no, but I have the driver on the CD, but it says invalid driver
[12:42] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Just replace the key number(s) you want to import then
[12:43] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: Who did ?
[12:43] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: I know a couple of the developers and they have said no such thing
[12:43] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:43] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05_: You are just now discovering vmware :P
[12:43] <jmichaelx> i need to lean about VMware, too
[12:43] <Hawkwind> Xcalibur: Linuxprinting.org IIRC.  Check there
[12:43] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: It's very simple actually
[12:43] <Hawkwind> !vmware
[12:43] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[12:44] <jmichaelx> and you can run windows without a Win partition?
[12:44] <Kr4t05_> Hawkwind: I've been toying with it the past two days. I just successfully got virtual-Windows to detect and access my webcam. ^.^V
[12:45] <Przemcio78> Hawkwind: did they tell you anything about shockwave player/ is a linux version planned at all?
[12:46] <jimy> ayuda
[12:46] <jimy> algun canal con gente de Kubuntu???
[12:47] <renatim> I need some help with grub!!!!
[12:47] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: AFAIK we will never see shockwave
[12:47] <menace_> jmicheal...i cant figure out the auth key part
[12:47] <jmichaelx> i read a blog somewhere where one of the flash developers talked about all of this. no mention was made of shockwave
[12:47] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05_: I've been running vmware for a while now.  Got several distros installed and about to install SuSe 10.1 with KDE 3.5.4
[12:47] <jimy> mmmm, i can selected lenguage?
[12:48] <Kr4t05_> Hawkwind: if I have any further success, I'll sneak DSL into my school and use VMPlayer to run it. :P
[12:48] <NthDegree> Hawkwind, do you want to run a distro inside a distro or ya just wanna try out tons of distros?
[12:48] <Przemcio78> Hawkwind; never say never :P
[12:49] <Hawkwind> Przemcio78: I did say, AFAIK
[12:49] <jmichaelx> i am using DSL-N right now... i love DSL lol
[12:49] <Hawkwind> NthDegree: I run a distro inside my distro.  Just for fun really nothing too serious
[12:49] <NthDegree> because a loopback disk can act as another partition and you get raw hardware to run it on :)
[12:49] <Przemcio78> Hawkwind: i know what you mean
[12:49] <menace_> jmichealx: after is says continue [Y/N]  i enter Y...but it immediately says abort
[12:50] <jmichaelx> menace_: in  that case, i do not know what to tell you. i never experienced that
[12:50] <akarticle> can anyone tell me how to format a ntfs hard drive and make it a linux (ext3?) hard drive
[12:50] <lupine_85> akarticle: mkfs.<fs-type> <devicefile>
[12:51] <lupine_85> erm, sudo obviously
[12:51] <NthDegree> akarticle: if you installed ubuntu you then have an ext3 hard druve
[12:51] <akarticle> ok i'll try
[12:51] <lupine_85> make sure it isn't mounted!
[12:51] <akarticle> ok
[12:51] <NthDegree> lupine_85: that doesn't matter if you force it methinks
[12:51] <lupine_85> oh, and you might need to change the fs type in fdisk as well
[12:51] <jmichaelx> menace_: you might want to visit the automatix iirc room... i think it is just #automatix but i am not sure
[12:51] <lupine_85> might as well not get in the habit though :)
[12:52] <menace_> im working on getting automatix micheal
[12:52] <menace_> its running an autoscript
[12:53] <jmichaelx> menace_: yo may be good to go , as long as you got that key
[12:53] <akarticle> hum...keep in mind i a am a newbie...the hard drive is unmounted and it is called hdb1, can you tell me exactly what to type in?
[12:53] <menace_> MUAHAHAHAHAH i got it
[12:53] <menace_> thankjs micheal
[12:53] <jmichaelx> yw
[12:53] <NthDegree> akarticle: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[12:53] <akarticle> ok...wait a sec
[12:53] <alex___> luping_85 got vista working through vmware, well it seems to be working, its in the install process
[12:54] <lupine_85> hmm. which beta?
[12:54] <NthDegree> or rather:          sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[12:54] <jmichaelx> menace_: i give you NO guarantees... you do this at your own risk. that being said, however, i have used it on 5 PCs over the last 4 or 5 months without issue
[12:54] <lupine_85> (not that it matters - I just wiped that virtual PC for an edgy install!)
[12:55] <jmichaelx> you guys have got me really fired up about VMware , lol
[12:55] <ubuntu> hi all... testing kubuntu by LiveCD.....
[12:55] <NthDegree> VMWare destroyed my kubuntu install
[12:55] <alex___> rc1
[12:55] <jmichaelx> NthDegree: yikes
[12:55] <akarticle> nthdegree: i have done as you said but when i type fdisk -l it still says the hd is a ntfs file system
[12:55] <NthDegree> it put a load of crap everywhere during install
[12:56] <NthDegree> akarticle: that is because the partition type is NTFS
[12:56] <lupine_85> akarticle: sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[12:56] <lupine_85> then t <return> partion number <return> 82
[12:56] <NthDegree> akarticle:  you need to change the number to 82 or something
[12:56] <lupine_85> erm s/parititon number/1
[12:56] <lupine_85> w to write and exit
[12:57] <ubuntu> do you know, how i can install some pkg for function keys on my Vaio_
[12:57] <lupine_85> pretty safe to do while other partitions on /dev/hdb are mounted (Assuming there are any)
[12:57] <jmichaelx> NthDegree: do you think you are looking at a re-install?
[12:57] <NthDegree> jmichaelx: basically
[12:57] <akarticle> ok its working now, thanks
[12:57] <NthDegree> and all my media is old and borked
[12:57] <lupine_85> np :)
[12:58] <lupine_85> NthDegree: really?
[12:58] <bubu1uk> ubuntu: i got vaio and never met any pkg that would do that thing. in linux i mean
[12:58] <NthDegree> yeah
[12:58] <lupine_85> it runs fine here
[12:58] <NthDegree> the y
[12:58] <NthDegree> VMWare*
[12:58] <menace_> whats this java install stuff popping up micheal?
[12:58] <lupine_85> what did it do, exactly? and what version did you install?
[12:58] <NthDegree> I installed the latest player
[12:58] <NthDegree> I ran the installer by putting perl ./vmware-install.pl
[12:59] <ubuntu> MMMMMm i heard about some sony acpi.... do konw something about it_
[12:59] <NthDegree> which is normal for a partition with noexec enabled
[12:59] <jmichaelx> menace_: i have no idea what you are installing, but you may need to enter yes in a few places when java is being installed
[12:59] <menace_> wtf automatix just installed java 5.0
[12:59] <lupine_85> lol
[12:59] <NthDegree> then it proceeded and failed at the vmware-config.pl bit
[12:59] <bubu1uk> ubuntu: yup, sony-py i think it's called but it is as acpi, power management
[12:59] <menace_> java 5.0 web start
[12:59] <lupine_85> mmm, that sounds about right - because of the noexec, right?
[12:59] <NthDegree> and after that the uninstaller wouldn't work
[01:00] <NthDegree> the installer said a product was already installed
[01:00] <jmichaelx> menace_: you must have been installing something that needed java.... in fat, i think frostwire relies on java
[01:00] <lupine_85> can't you run the vmware-config.pl manually, then try to uninstall?
[01:00] <NthDegree> the vmware-config.pl is fine
[01:00] <ubuntu> eheheheheh ok ok... how you can see i am the NEWBEST in the chanel
[01:00] <jmichaelx> fact*
[01:00] <NthDegree> it was the /etc/init.d/vmware file which is screwed up
[01:00] <lupine_85> hehe
[01:00] <lupine_85> sounds good
[01:01] <hussam> does anyone know a frontend to pppoe for dialing dsl/pppoe connections?
[01:01] <lupine_85> System Settings->Network ?
[01:01] <hussam> I'm looking or something similar to SUSE's kinternet
[01:01] <jmichaelx> i have VMware installed on a mepis box i have (yes, i used automatix), but have never used it
[01:01] <bubu1uk> ubuntu: never mind. everyone is newbie in beginning.
[01:01] <hussam> lupine_85, that only configures eth0
[01:01] <lupine_85> really?!
[01:02] <lupine_85> that's a bit silly
[01:02] <BluesKaj> dsl doesn't dial a connection
[01:02] <menace_> <3 automatix
[01:02] <menace_> i have yahoo dsl....its super fast
[01:02] <hussam> BluesKaj, no dsl , ppp over ethernal
[01:02] <menace_> my parents wireless connection is getting like 60mbps
[01:02] <ubuntu> Only one question Suse 10.1 vs. Kubuntu Dapper.... who is the best... i am chosing my distro
[01:02] <lupine_85> Kubuntu, definitely
[01:03] <menace_> really?
[01:03] <lupine_85> SuSE 10.1 looks a bit more polished, but is slower and less secure
[01:03] <bubu1uk> ubuntu: it's ur choice definitely, ur taste
[01:03] <menace_> ah
[01:03] <lupine_85> and the package management system is useless
[01:03] <BluesKaj> the dsl modem should be the first thing to look at , hussam
[01:03] <lupine_85> but, yes, it's ubuntu's choice :)
[01:03] <menace_> whats the dif between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[01:03] <bubu1uk> lupine_85: less secure?
[01:03] <lupine_85> gnome or kde
[01:03] <cLuEdArT> yuck, i hate yast
[01:03] <hussam> lupine_85, ubuntu, suse 10.1 is really broken atm
[01:03] <lupine_85> what else can you call a distro that installs and activates sshd by default?
[01:03] <lupine_85> one has to wonder what else it's doing behind your back
[01:04] <lupine_85> it even punches a hole in the firewall for it...
[01:04] <hussam> BluesKaj, I don't have a modem, I just dial a pppoe over the ethernal card. I do 'pon dsl-provider' from konsole
[01:04] <cLuEdArT> the distro flamewars will go on forever...
[01:04] <ubuntu> lupine_85 in italy we say ..."YOU ARE A WOLF"
[01:04] <BluesKaj> Yast is broken most of the time , that's why i gace up on suse
[01:04] <Mortice> lupine_85: one could check such things with netstat...
[01:04] <Mortice> but SuSE 10.1 is definitely b0rked in many ways
[01:04] <lupine_85> indeed (that's how I found it!), but the average user won't
[01:04] <hussam> lupine_85, ubuntu, suse 10.1's package manager is broken. I'd wait fro 10.2
[01:04] <jmichaelx> has anyone in here played with mepis? i would have no reason why it might be, but i have 2 identical systems... one with kubuntu, and one with mepis, and the mepis box seems much more responsive and quick. the only difference between the two is that the kubuntu box has an ethernet connection and the mepis is wireless
[01:05] <lupine_85> the average user will also choose something really stupid for their password, then end up being hax0red on a random port scan
[01:05] <BluesKaj> dhcp from the ethernet card
[01:05] <renatim> do I need a firmware to install adsl connection in my pc?
[01:05] <BluesKaj> if you can
[01:05] <lupine_85> renatim: probably not
[01:05] <renatim> I have kubuntu 5.10
[01:05] <lupine_85> do you mean an ADSL PCI card?
[01:05] <renatim> [lupine_85]  thanx!!!
[01:05] <lupine_85> (if you do, get Sangoma)
[01:06] <renatim> no... I have normal adsl modem.... no usb or card
[01:06] <lupine_85> the main problem I have with SuSE, is that it doesn't *tell* you what it's doing
[01:06] <lupine_85> it also doesn't give you any options to change it
[01:06] <hussam> suse 10.0 was there last good release
[01:07] <Mortice> lupine_85: the average user doesn't want (or generally need) to know, and anyone who knows their way around can work it out
[01:07] <obf213> how do you comment out something, you use "./ at begenning or is /. at beggining
[01:07] <lupine_85> Mortice: why would the average user need sshd installed and activated? Surely the users who do need it can install it themselves...?
[01:07] <lupine_85> obf213: bash comment is #
[01:07] <obf213> o
[01:07] <NthDegree> Mortice, it has a firewall (unnecessary)
[01:08] <lupine_85> SuSE made some really bad choices in this distro IMO
[01:08] <NthDegree> ubuntu has the right idea
[01:08] <NthDegree> no server daemons and no firewall
[01:08] <renatim> so all I have to do is type pppoeconf? ou do I still have to create tha pap-secrets and chap-secrets?
[01:08] <Mortice> lupine_85: that's certainly an issue, but that doesn't fall under "it doesn't tell you what it's doing". Would the average user know what to do if told about it?
[01:08] <swamptu> how do i login as root in konsole?
[01:08] <hussam> lupine_85, they's killing it by turning it into a gnome distro.
[01:08] <lupine_85> Mortice: probably not
[01:09] <bubu1uk> arent we in kubuntu channel? obviously all will mostly support ubuntu. go to suse and it will be other way round
[01:09] <NthDegree> swamptu: simple, sudo -i
[01:09] <lupine_85> but something like that should not be activated by default
[01:09] <bubu1uk> (not that i support suse)
[01:09] <renatim> so all I have to do is type pppoeconf? ou do I still have to create tha pap-secrets and chap-secrets?
[01:09] <Mortice> and actually, to be fair, it's right there on the installation menus
[01:09] <hussam> renatim, I simply did sudo pppoeconf
[01:09] <lupine_85> and yes, this is a slightly biased audience :)
[01:09] <lupine_85> and I was looking pretty closely
[01:09] <Mortice> first line of software configuration, IIRC, "SSH is enabled, firewall port is open"
[01:10] <Mortice> that's in SuSE 10.0, I can't remember what it says in 10.1
[01:10] <NthDegree> 10.1 is just as screwed
[01:10] <NthDegree> i tried it
[01:10] <lupine_85> I don't remember seeing anything like that in 10.1
[01:10] <NthDegree> yast didnt work for 1st few months
[01:10] <swamptu> NthDegree: thx
[01:10] <hussam> I tried it too, NthDegree.
[01:10] <lupine_85> the updater still didn't work when I left
[01:10] <Mortice> package management in 10.1 particularly, but in SuSE distros generally, is appalling
[01:11] <lupine_85> used to be good
[01:11] <NthDegree> Mortice: wait for Novell to screw up smart xD
[01:11] <bubu1uk> to be honest with u all, i tried suse and wasnt unhappy with it (it only diff distro made me happier. lol)
[01:11] <Mortice> but I still think 10.0 is an OK(-ish) distribution for certain applications
[01:12] <NthDegree> Mortice: it is supposed to be a KDE supporter, but even when it was a KDE supporter it installed GNOME stuff with it
[01:12] <lupine_85> what a difference a .1 makes :)
[01:12] <lupine_85> of course, beagle is another huge downer
[01:12] <lupine_85> apparently it's going to be in edgy :(
[01:13] <NthDegree> ZOMG don't get me started
[01:13] <Mortice> NthDegree: Gnome support is awful in 10.1. Gnucash doesn't work out of the box. You *have* to compile from source to make it work
[01:13] <Mortice> which requires 660MB of package downloading before you can get it to build
[01:13] <hussam> NthDegree, imo Kubuntu is the last good kde distribtion and Riddell is doing a great job at keeping it so. When it comes to suse, Novell is trying to kill kde in favour of gnome
[01:13] <NthDegree> hussam, dare you to say that in #suse
[01:13] <NthDegree> they believe they support them both
[01:14] <bubu1uk> lol
[01:14] <BluesKaj> hussam, sudo ifconfig pppoe ...have you tried that ?
[01:14] <hussam> NthDegree, as a matter of fact, I have
[01:14] <NthDegree> yet that's why they want to move YaST and the other stuff to GTK
[01:14] <hussam> BluesKaj, sudo ifconfig ppp0
[01:14] <BluesKaj> try pppoe
[01:14] <Mortice> most of the major commercial distros will go to Gnome because of its accessibility stuff, which make it much easier to sell to governments.
[01:15] <NthDegree> my ass
[01:15] <hussam> BluesKaj, pppoe: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[01:15] <BluesKaj> bummer
[01:15] <NthDegree> KDE sticks more to the GNOME HIG than GNOME does
[01:15] <NthDegree> e.g. integrated, consistent looking apps
[01:15] <BluesKaj> hussam, sudo ifconfig pppd ?
[01:16] <NthDegree> only thing it doesn't do is make double sure not to "offend" anyone
[01:16] <Mortice> NthDegree: i'm not talking about look and feel. I'm talking about accessibility for people with disabilities
[01:16] <hussam> BluesKaj, you only have to sudo pppoeconf once. you connect with 'pon dsl-provider' and disconnect with 'poff -a'
[01:16] <Mortice> which is a major criterion for software purchases for many governments
[01:17] <hussam> NthDegree, my all time favorite distros are Archlinux and Kubuntu
[01:17] <NthDegree> Mortice: it has every accessibility feature Windows has, does GNOME have more than Windows??? (wouldn't be surprised if it did)
[01:17] <NthDegree> hussam, Slackware is KDE-centric
[01:17] <NthDegree> that has a good KDE
[01:17] <hussam> gtk 2.10 is fast but not as fast as qt3/kde 3.5
[01:17] <Mortice> NthDegree: correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no KDE equivalent to the atk
[01:17] <hussam> NthDegree, to be honest, I haven't tried it.
[01:18] <NthDegree> Mortice, hit shift 5 times
[01:18] <NthDegree> identical to windows
[01:18] <Mortice> NthDegree: great. sticky keys. Still not doing everything that gnome does.
[01:18] <NthDegree> festival for screen readouts
[01:19] <NthDegree> high-contrast accessibility themes
[01:19] <Mortice> on-screen keyboard, gnopernicus equivalent, etc?
[01:19] <NthDegree> gnopernicus equivalent I just said didn't I
[01:20] <Kr4t05> *Sigh* Wouldn't it figure? I've had Windows installed for two days, and I'm already cleaning out spyware.
[01:20] <NthDegree> gnopernicus is the voice thing
[01:20] <BluesKaj> hussam, whereis kppp.conf ... maybe you can work from there
[01:20] <NthDegree> ?
[01:20] <Mortice> NthDegree: yea, but it also does magnification.
[01:21] <NthDegree> i've found one weakness in accessibility
[01:21] <NthDegree> the accessibility of KDE is only in KDE apps
[01:21] <NthDegree> the GNOME ones can do any app
[01:21] <hussam> BluesKaj, I think I wasn't clear. I can do it from command line using 'pon dsl-provider', but I still looking for gui frontend similar to suse's kinternet
[01:21] <NthDegree> (except KDE ones maybe)
[01:22] <Mortice> at any rate, I need to sleep.
[01:22] <NthDegree> night :)
[01:22] <jvives> hey all! Anyone knows if there is a xmms plugin (or any other player) for displaying the lyric of the song being played? Kind of karaoke style...
[01:23] <NthDegree> jvives: AmaroK may have some plugin (it's big enough to)
[01:23] <jmichaelx> jvives: i think there is, enter xmms in adept.....
[01:23] <jmichaelx> Amarok definitely has that feature, i use it all the time
[01:23] <BluesKaj> hussam, ok , then you do have internet, understood ...typing everytimeto get on is a PITA
[01:24] <NthDegree> hussam, kubuntu can have KInternet
[01:24] <BluesKaj> Amarok isn't working for me since I tried to upgrade to 1.4.3 :(
[01:25] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: that would be really sad. i wonder what went wrong?
[01:25] <BluesKaj> actaully amarok doesn't exist in my kmenu anymore
[01:26] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: did you follow the instructions on imbrandon's website?
[01:26] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, it's my doing ...thot i should dump the existing one first...big mistake !
[01:26] <BluesKaj> took all the dependencies with it
[01:27] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: i have come to really love amarok
[01:27] <jmichaelx> u see
[01:27] <jmichaelx> i see*
[01:27] <_ShoGo_> Hi, im trying to install a genius videocam nb, and i have read that it uses sn9c102 driver. i have seen with lsmod that it is loaded, dmesg and lsusb detect it, and dmesg says that it is /dev/video0 but i can only see images from a tv card capturer with camorama
[01:28] <BluesKaj> no matter , xmms and mplayer work well
[01:29] <_ShoGo_> nobody can help me?
[01:29] <jmichaelx> xmms does do fine.... and i think   it does have a plugin for lyrics, though i have never tried it
[01:29] <jvives> BluesKaj: what problem are you having with amarok? Cause I'm having problems too... When I try to play any song, it just shows the name of the song and then "Playlist finished"
[01:30] <imbrandon> jvives, an mp3 ?
[01:30] <jvives> yep
[01:30] <imbrandon> jvives, " sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs "
[01:30] <imbrandon> that will fix you up
[01:30] <imbrandon> ( restart amarok after that installs )
[01:31] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, wasup ? havin amarok issues? sorry just became un-afk ;)
[01:31] <imbrandon> heya jmichaelx ;)
[01:31] <jvives> let me try that...
[01:31] <jmichaelx> howdy imbrandon
[01:31] <BluesKaj> jvives, the prob I have is that i deleted the older version 1.4.2 in favour of upgrading to 1.4.3 , but that was the wrong thing to do ...now i can't get either one to reinstall due to lost dependencies
[01:32] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, apt should pull in the deps , how are you trying to reinstall  it ?
[01:32] <jvives> so, any amarok plugin for karaoke?
[01:32] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: i hope my mentioning your site did not pull you in here, lol
[01:32] <imbrandon> jvives, not that i know of
[01:32] <imbrandon> dosent mean there isnt one though
[01:33] <jmichaelx> jvives: do you just mean to show lyrics?
[01:33] <imbrandon> jmichaelx, it did hilihght me but no biggie ;) i wasent busy
[01:33] <Tachyon> Is there a way I can get a little icon in my system tray to monitor my wireless connection?
[01:33] <jvives> jmichaelx: you said you use a karaoke function on amarok... Where is it? is it an external plugin or what?
[01:34] <jmichaelx> jvives: all i was referring to was the function to show lyrics....
[01:34] <BluesKaj> I've got the repos in my sources list but the message i get is:
[01:34] <BluesKaj> amarok:
[01:34] <BluesKaj>  Depends: amarok-xine but it is not going to be installed
[01:34] <BluesKaj>  Depends: libvisual-0.4-0 (>=0.4.0) but it is not installable
[01:34] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, looks like you dont have dapper-backports enabled
[01:35] <Xcalibur> yo
[01:35] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: add imbrandon's repo, and you can get the libvisual plugin
[01:35] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, my repos or kubnutu.org ?
[01:35] <Xcalibur> can KDE 4 be used with dapper drake?
[01:35] <BluesKaj> imbrandon, URL ?
[01:35] <imbrandon> Xcalibur, not really
[01:35] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, www.imbrandon.com
[01:35] <Xcalibur> y is that>
[01:35] <Xcalibur> ?*
[01:35] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: i could only get libvisual-o.4.0 from your repo
[01:36] <imbrandon> jmichaelx, its in the dapper-backports too
[01:36] <jmichaelx> ok, for some reason i could not get it from there.... all i could find was 0.2.0 (i think)
[01:36] <imbrandon> jmichaelx, in the backports? you know thats not on by default right , you have to add a deb line
[01:37] <jvives> jmichaelx: what function is that?
[01:37] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, are you registered?
[01:37] <imbrandon> ( on freenode ? )
[01:37] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: i will have to check again, but i am fairly sure i have that repo enabled, and could not find 0.4.0 anywhere in there... let me look again. i am not at my kubuntu PC
[01:37] <Xcalibur> so, it's not possible to run it on dapper drake, or is it possible to upgrade from DD to Edgy Eft
[01:38] <jmichaelx> jvives: click context, and from there you can select "lyrics"
[01:38] <jmichaelx> jvives: i think you will need to have ruby installed
[01:38] <imbrandon> Xcalibur, yes its possible to upgrade to edgy from dapper ( but i woulddent recomend it unless your a developer )
[01:38] <jmichaelx> brb
[01:38] <Xcalibur> how would one go about doing this?
[01:38] <imbrandon> jmichaelx, ruby is installed with amarok ( its one of the deps )
[01:39] <jmichaelx> ok
[01:39] <_ShoGo_> nobody can help me?
[01:39] <imbrandon> Xcalibur, short story is open sources.list and s/dapper/edgy BUT it WILL NOT go smooth, unless you are very familiar with apt and command line i wouldent recomend it at all
[01:39] <BluesKaj> yes imbrandon , registered
[01:40] <Xcalibur> ok
[01:40] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, PM me , i'll help you get going
[01:40] <Xcalibur> you recommend not
[01:40] <Xcalibur> so, i will not
[01:40] <Xcalibur> until it is told publicly
[01:40] <BluesKaj> editing kate as we speak
[01:40] <Xcalibur> how to do it smoothly
[01:40] <jott_> imbrandon: oh btw i think your amarok package is broken
[01:41] <imbrandon> jott_,  mayn hundreds of people are using it so i doubt it, but what can i help you with ?
[01:41] <imbrandon> s/mayn/many
[01:42] <jott_> imbrandon: it misses the stuff for dynamic collection (files from usr/share/services and the libs)
[01:42] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: ok, i just lookedat my sources.list , and dapper-backports are not commented. i have no idea why i could not find the 0.4.0 plugins last week when i looked for them. i had to get them from your repo
[01:42] <imbrandon> that was fixed in the 1.4.3 update but i'll make sure , thanks for the tipoff
[01:42] <jott_> imbrandon: (see the last lines in amarok.install in the official edgy .diff)
[01:42] <imbrandon> jott_, ^^
[01:43] <imbrandon> jott_, yea i maintain it in the official repos too, i amde the cahnges i THOUGHT i made them both places but i'll look again, thanks
[01:43] <jott_> sure.. np... better to double check ;)
[01:44] <imbrandon> ;)
[01:44] <Xcalibur> so, it's not a good idea to upgrade to edgy huh?
[01:44] <imbrandon> Xcalibur, not unless your a developer , as i said it work ( i've been useing it for months ) but it breaks often and is NOT a smooth upgrade atm
[01:45] <imbrandon> s/work/works
[01:45] <Xcalibur> alright
[01:45] <Xcalibur> well, I guess I can wait for KDE 4
[01:45] <Xcalibur> lol
[01:46] <imbrandon> Xcalibur, not much works in kde4 atm but konsole anyhow
[01:46] <Xcalibur> lol
[01:47] <Xcalibur> well, I g2g back to making my masterlock shimm
[01:48] <BluesKaj> Does anyone have an error free sources list ...mine sucks!
[01:48] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, dapper or edgy ?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> dapper
[01:48] <imbrandon> give me a sec
[01:48] <imbrandon> i'll dig a good one up
[01:49] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/dapper-sources.list
[01:49] <BluesKaj> sometimes i end up with 2 sources lists ...why and which one takes precedence ?
[01:50] <imbrandon> you should only have one
[01:50] <BluesKaj> i try to trash the dup one one but it ends with ~ behind it
[01:51] <imbrandon> becosue u are using a graphical editor like kwrite or kate
[01:51] <obf213> how do i change the resolution of kdm?
[01:51] <imbrandon> you can ignore it
[01:51] <imbrandon> obf213, change the default resolution in xorg.conf
[01:52] <BluesKaj> ok so the "real" sources list the one i edit in kate ?
[01:52] <obf213> ok.
[01:52] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, yes
[01:52] <BluesKaj> cool, thx imbrandon
[01:53] <obf213> imbrandon where is xorg.cong
[01:53] <obf213> xorg.conf*
[01:53] <imbrandon> in /etx/X11/
[01:55] <obf213> imbrandon, my desktop has the right resolution but the kdm doesnt does this mean im out of luck because i think your saying they are the same thing
[01:55] <imbrandon> obf213, yes they use the same thing
[01:55] <imbrandon> obf213, kdm only does 1024x768 max iirc
[01:55] <sean5467> alirght, i'm using the kubuntu live disk and it refuses to mount my hard drive
[01:56] <obf213> ah ok
[01:57] <sean5467> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:57] <sean5467> anyone know what this means?
[01:57] <imbrandon> means you dident tell it where to mount
[01:57] <sean5467> oh
[01:58] <imbrandon> sean5467, sudo mount /dev/hda1 /a/mount/point/here
[01:58] <sean5467> ok, thanks
[01:59] <sean5467> and is there any way to get a higher resolution than 1024x768? because it looks really bad on a larger widescreen
[01:59] <imbrandon> sure i'm at 1600x1200 now, depends on your hardware
[01:59] <imbrandon> and what you have set
[02:00] <sean5467> oh, but now i don't even see the resolution adjustment thing anymore
[02:00] <imbrandon> sean5467, " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[02:01] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: why is the size of your screen?
[02:01] <jmichaelx> what*
[02:01] <imbrandon> my monitor ?
[02:01] <jmichaelx> yes
[02:02] <imbrandon> jmichaelx, 30 apple cinima
[02:02] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[02:02] <imbrandon> 30''
[02:02] <imbrandon> heya Hawkwind
[02:03] <jmichaelx> i am using a 17" @ 1024x768, but have thought about changing it to 1280x800.... if it is even possible to do that on this machine
[02:03] <imbrandon> 1280 x 1024 ?
[02:03] <jmichaelx> <<is also jealous lol
[02:03] <jmichaelx> yeah x1024, my mistake
[02:03] <talljon84> Ever since the CMOS battery was replaced on a computer, it no longer has sound output. It still sees the card but no sound. Also, kmix isn't showing the correct output channels for the Audigy card. How do I fix it?
[02:04] <dein> what command shows what processor type and speed you are using?
[02:04] <imbrandon> dein, "cat /proc/cpuinfo "
[02:05] <imbrandon> talljon84, no idea man, sorry
[02:05] <nnn0> talljon84: have you checked the BIOS
[02:05] <dein> cpu mhz is my clockspeed right?
[02:06] <imbrandon> dein, yes
[02:06] <dein> cuz it says the one im using is 768 mhz 0.o
[02:06] <BluesKaj> I'm still getting souce list errors after editing those sources out and updating ...WTF gives ?
[02:06] <talljon84> nnn0: it's an addin card, not builtin. how would the system bios effect that?
[02:06] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, paste the error in a PM to me
[02:06] <nnn0> donno
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj, post your sources.list
[02:07] <imbrandon> Admiral_Chicago, i just helped him edit it, its probably a key issue
[02:07] <nnn0> but some BIOS loose all settings when out of power
[02:07] <kutan> >_<
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> imbrandon, ah
[02:07] <kutan> omg.. I need to get adobe shockwave to work on linux some how
[02:08] <nnn0> vmware ;)
[02:08] <imbrandon> talljon84, make sure the onboard one is turned off in the bios ( probably got reset )
[02:08] <kutan> vmware?
[02:08] <imbrandon> kutan, there is a howto on the restricted formats page
[02:08] <nnn0> so you can run windows in linux
[02:08] <talljon84> imbrandon: already tried that with no effect
[02:08] <nnn0> ah you ment the plugin ? :)
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> nnn0, who would want to?
[02:09] <kutan> Yeah, the plugin.
[02:09] <nnn0> sry i wasn't thinking
[02:09] <imbrandon> kutan, there is a howto on the restricted formats page
[02:10] <kutan> !blahblah > kutan
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[02:10] <kutan> bleh
[02:10] <Hawkwind> imbrandon: Sorry for the delay...how's life with you tonight ?
[02:10] <kutan> !blahblah>kutan
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[02:10] <kutan> How do I do that again?
[02:10] <kutan> !command > kutan
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <kutan> screw it
[02:12] <imbrandon> kutan, dont abuse the poor bot
[02:12] <imbrandon> !restricted > kutan
[02:12] <imbrandon> ;)
[02:13] <Sanne> kutan: just message ubotu and abuse it in private ;): /msg ubotu my_question
[02:13] <kutan> yeah lol I did that one
[02:13] <Sanne> :)
[02:13] <kutan> I kinda.. forgot I could do that :x
[02:24] <TehUni> the official nvidia drivers (from nvidia website) are newer than mine. should i upgrade, even though the package manager doesnt see a newer version? i'd have to do it manually.
[02:25] <lupine_85> TehUni: only if you need a feature of the newer drivers, IMO
[02:25] <lupine_85> if you've got a perfect configuration, no real point in trying to breaking it
[02:26] <TehUni> well
[02:26] <junkphreak> anyone know of a full backup openlinux software that is like ghost but thats free ?
[02:26] <TehUni> i'm using xinerama over 3 screens
[02:26] <TehUni> and it's incredibly slow.
[02:27] <junkphreak> need to image my hd and be able to do full revoery incase the hd dies aor files gte corrupted
[02:28] <lupine_85> junkphreak: dd if=/dev/hda of=/path/to/backup/partition/hugebackup.img ?
[02:28] <junkphreak> how about booting it ?
[02:29] <lupine_85> erm, difficult
[02:29] <junkphreak> lol yep
[02:29] <lupine_85> TBH for backup, ghosting is somewhat pointless
[02:30] <NthDegree> use tar.bz2 then diff the rest right?
[02:30] <lupine_85> I don't think I bother with tar.bz2 atm
[02:30] <lupine_85> it's only a 2GB backup for me
[02:30] <NthDegree> junkphreak: not difficult
[02:31] <NthDegree> if you make your dd backup as a loopback device you can construct a way to boot the backup
[02:31] <NthDegree> not easy but it's possible
[02:35] <singinmatt13> ok.  wireless networking question.  (we all love these. NOT!)  well, I've got a bcm4318 card, with wpa_supplicant and NetworkManager.  NM has worked until now, when i switched houses and tried to connect to another AP.  I click the network, it asks for the password and wallet password.  GIve both, gets up to 28 percent saying configuring IP or somesuch, and then it never gets to the link up stage.  I have a feeling if i went back home it
[02:35] <SpAwN> anyone know if its possible to use my digital camcorder(which works in linux) as a webcam type thing.......
[02:37] <obf213> how do i change the background of my kdm
[02:38] <singinmatt13> obf213 it's under like system settings or somesuch, under splash screen or near that area.  bout all the help i can give
[02:39] <obf213> lol thanks i think i found it
[02:39] <Xcalibur> is there anyway to skin KDE?
[02:40] <larson9999>  there's more than one way to skin a KDE
[02:40] <Xcalibur> then, how can i skin my KDE?
[02:41] <singinmatt13> network help anyone?
[02:41] <singinmatt13> read my entry above
[02:41] <Xcalibur> I have to get off my laptop in like 5 mins, I want to have it skinned by then, can anyone help me?
[02:42] <_Dink> yea only if you jelp me get 3d acceleration to pass on Cedega tests with ATI 8.28.8 drivers first ;)
[02:42] <talljon84> Does anyone know what package provides the alsaconf util in Ubuntu?
[02:42] <Xcalibur> wow, then im screwed
[02:43] <Xcalibur> I g2g, hope to get some help 2morrow
[02:44] <singinmatt13> talljon84: alsa-utils
[02:44] <_Dink> i dont think you need it anymore
[02:45] <_Dink> unless you use ISA cards
[02:45] <_Dink> modprobe your card and use mixer
[02:46] <singinmatt13> hm...my alsa autoset when i installed
[02:46] <singinmatt13> people have their own troubles though
[02:46] <singinmatt13> As i do
[02:46] <singinmatt13> again.  SEe my above entry
[02:46] <_Dink> that would have it yes
[02:47] <_Dink> now how do i get 3d acceleration passing on cedega :P
[02:47] <talljon84> singinmatt13: that package is installed but alsaconf is no where to be found
[02:48] <singinmatt13> hmmm
[02:49] <_Dink> you might have to get it from src
[02:49] <singinmatt13> sorry, man.  I haven't dealt with alsa since the olden days on my gateway solo from hell
[02:49] <talljon84> What does Kubuntu use for sound by default then?
[02:49] <alekz> how can i disable the sound that is launched when i open a new window or min/max it ?
[02:50] <Sanne> talljon84: to find which package provides a certian file or app, you can search at packages.ubuntu.com under "Search the contents of packages"
[02:50] <_Dink> sound & media in system seetting
[02:50] <_Dink> i thnk
[02:50] <lupine_85> kubuntu uses alsa
[02:51] <lupine_85> it also uses arts
[02:51] <lupine_85> no idea what arts is for, though - I always disable it as soon as I get the system installed ;)
[02:52] <_Dink> so anyone here cedega/ati experts ;)
[02:52] <Hawkwind> lupine_85: No arts soon enough though :P
[02:52] <Hawkwind> _Dink: Plenty of them in #WineHQ and #Cedega :P
[02:53] <_Dink> tried there... they directed me here :P
[02:53] <Hawkwind> Ummm, they shouldn't have.  They are the experts on their package :P
[02:53] <_Dink> lol thats what I thought...
[02:53] <Hawkwind> Ahhhh look at that.  FiOS in Dallas Texas.  Must be nice
[02:54] <_Dink> basically .... ati drivers are loaded... works... everything works... except 3D accelerations fails
[02:54] <ErikTheRed> alright this should be an easy question
[02:55] <_Dink> just thought I would ask in here
[02:55] <Sanne> lupine_85: arts is one of the sound servers (like esd inGnome, or like jack). They run on top of the sound driver (alsa) and provide access to the sound device for more than one app at the same time. If an app can't work with such a sound server (like some games), it needs to be disabled or it blocks the sound device for such an app.
[02:55] <ErikTheRed> if i want something to load at startup, in this case compiz-manager
[02:55] <_Dink> bbl maybe need to pick up wife
[02:55] <Sanne> lupine_85: I thought you might want to know :)
[02:56] <ErikTheRed> lemme put my question in one sentence
[02:56] <lupine_85> yep, thanks :)
[02:56] <ErikTheRed> if i want to load compiz-manager at startup what is the easiest way to do that?
[02:56] <Sanne> :)
[02:57] <Neko> hi
[02:58] <Neko> i would like some help setting up my new laptop
[02:59] <Neko> could i get some ?
[02:59] <Hawkwind> Neko: What exactly do you need help with ?
[03:00] <Neko> not deleting windows
[03:00] <talljon84> Can you instruct Kubuntu installer to reinstall all files and run all of it's setup scripts without formatting the drive?
[03:00] <talljon84> ...basically reinstall the shell over the existing filesystem?
[03:00] <Neko> roar  ^-^  I would appreciate instructions
[03:00] <Neko> wait, i'll be back in a little bit
[03:01] <Hawkwind> talljon84: Absolutely
[03:01] <Hawkwind> talljon84: AFAIK you don't have to format any partitions during the install
[03:02] <talljon84> Hawkwind: and it should just overwrite all the config files in the process? (ie if there is an unkown soundcard configuration error, it will reset it back to the default)?
[03:02] <Hawkwind> talljon84: Possibly
[03:02] <ErikTheRed> i'll try asking my question again
[03:02] <Hawkwind> talljon84: I've never tried it personally
[03:02] <ErikTheRed> i got xgl working
[03:02] <Hawkwind> !xgl
[03:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:02] <Sanne> Hawkwind, talljon84: I think this has just changed, IIRC, I read on ubuntu-devel that the root partition / will get formatted in any case. I don't know on which version it when it changed, though. Should I go dig for the link?
[03:02] <Hawkwind> ErikTheRed: Read those URL's, might help you there
[03:02] <ErikTheRed> well i don't need help with xgl per se
[03:03] <ErikTheRed> i just need to know how to have a program startup upon login
[03:03] <Hawkwind> ErikTheRed: That link tells you how to do exactly what you want
[03:04] <Sanne> Hawkwind, talljon84: in any case, here's the link to the first post in the thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020344.html
[03:05] <mewmew> hi
[03:05] <mewmew> this is Neko
[03:05] <mewmew> anyway
[03:05] <mewmew> first off, how do i resize my windows partition?
[03:06] <Healot> you want to do while in Windows or off the LiveCD?
[03:06] <naegling23> I upgraded to kde 3.4.whatever last week, now everytime I boot, the setup wizard runs, how do I make it stop
[03:07] <mewmew> while on LiveDVD
[03:07] <Healot> the DVD boots up GNOME right
[03:07] <mewmew> no kde
[03:07] <mewmew> it's a kubuntu livedvd
[03:08] <Healot> run qtparted while in live session
[03:08] <mewmew> ok what do i do?
[03:10] <mewmew> once qtparted is open?
[03:10] <Healot> it's simply dragging-typing...
[03:10] <Healot> clicking operation...
[03:10] <mewmew> what?
[03:10] <mewmew> i mean, what exactly do i need to do?
[03:11] <mewmew> also, should i keep the recovery info around?
[03:11] <Healot> do you know what you want to achieve?
[03:11] <mewmew> i want to resize the win partition and install kubuntu
[03:11] <Healot> selecting the help menu might help
[03:12] <Healot> do you know how to use qtparted?
[03:12] <Healot> !qtparted
[03:12] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 704 kB
[03:12] <mewmew> ok, no i don't
[03:12] <Healot> do you know how to select a menu from the menu bar?
[03:13] <mewmew> yeah
[03:14] <Healot> and know how to browser the internet? http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.en.html >> Visualize it
[03:14] <obf213> anyone have a prblem with the password prompt not opening so u can run things as root, in kcontrol or system settings?
[03:15] <Healot> since qtparted is visual, i guess screenshots would be better to explain it
[03:15] <cLuEdArT> I've got a strange question when someone can lend some advice ;)
[03:15] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: Ask away
[03:16] <cLuEdArT> ok, so for the longest time i was using the i386 kernel
[03:16] <cLuEdArT> awhile back in started using the k7-smp kernel
[03:16] <Sanne> obf213: yeah, sometimes I have to hit the admin mode button again to make the password input window appear.
[03:16] <cLuEdArT> since then, i haven't compiled anything.  I went to compile a package today, and I'm getting dependency issues left and right
[03:16] <cLuEdArT> are libs platform specific?
[03:17] <cLuEdArT> like, it's having a fit over Qt, and xlibs
[03:17] <Healot> kernel libs?
[03:17] <cLuEdArT> nope
[03:17] <Healot> or application libraries?
[03:17] <cLuEdArT> just libs and some other dev tools for source compiling
[03:17] <Healot> it's architecture specific
[03:17] <cLuEdArT> like, I was trying to compile KSmoothDock from source
[03:17] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: Have you installed build-essential ?
[03:17] <cLuEdArT> oh of course
[03:18] <cLuEdArT> everything on here I've compiled form source
[03:18] <cLuEdArT> but
[03:18] <cLuEdArT> since I switched kernels, i haven't compiled anything until tonight
[03:18] <cLuEdArT> they are arch specific?
[03:19] <Hawkwind> If you've compiled things that are now deps, that's why you might be having issues.  It's not picking the needed deps up in the place they should be since you compiled them and not installed them via the package manager.
[03:19] <obf213> how do make this automaticaly recognize your password
[03:19] <obf213> like the irc
[03:19] <cLuEdArT> hmmm
[03:19] <cLuEdArT> ok, for instance
[03:21] <cLuEdArT> one of the errors was "xlibs not installed"
[03:21] <cLuEdArT> but it is, I can apt-get xlibs and it will say it's already the newest version
[03:21] <intelikey> some body knows how to correct "Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US"." ???  aspell error.
[03:22] <cLuEdArT> so, would I be wise, the next time I reformat, to install the k7-smp kernel before installing anyting, even before build-essentials?
[03:23] <obf213> y does nickserve tell me my pasword is incorrect when i do the auto identify thing
[03:23] <Healot> either way, really
[03:23] <Sanne> cLuEdArT: make sure you have the corresponding -dev packages of the libs also.
[03:23] <cLuEdArT> or is there a seperate set of repo's available for k7's.  I would think it would be the same as the i386 repos.
[03:23] <obf213> and i know the password is correct do i need to add <> to the password
[03:23] <cLuEdArT> Sanne, I do.
[03:24] <cLuEdArT> the xlibs package only comes xlibs-dev according to Adept when I cross reference
[03:24] <Hawkwind> !register > obf213
[03:24] <Hawkwind> obf213: Might ask a staff member in #Freenode if they can help you recover your password
[03:24] <Sanne> cLuEdArT: if you have them installed and get not found errors, see if you can tell the build proccess (usually configure) where the devs and libs are.
[03:24] <intelikey> i386!=smp  smp=i686+
[03:25] <Sanne> cLuEdArT: usually './configure --help' should tell you
[03:25] <cLuEdArT> i've tried using a symbolic link for my libs, but when i rerun ./configure it still chokes
[03:26] <intelikey> aspell issue ?
[03:26] <cLuEdArT> but it's weird, everythign i have from firefox to amarok, i've compiled from source with no problems, until i started using this k7-smp kernel
[03:26] <Sanne> cLuEdArT: you can also go through config.log and hunt for details of the errors
[03:27] <intelikey> one question cLuEdArT, if you want to build everything why are you using *buntu ?
[03:27] <Sanne> cLuEdArT: I doubt it's related to the kernel. Might be coincidence.
[03:27] <cLuEdArT> well, for instance...
[03:27] <cLuEdArT> with amarok, up until 1.4.3
[03:27] <cLuEdArT> if you wanted MySQL with iPod support, you had no choice to compile
[03:28] <cLuEdArT> otherwise, you had SQLite and no ipod support by default
[03:28] <Hawkwind> But that's one thing, not everything
[03:28] <cLuEdArT> you're right
[03:28] <cLuEdArT> that's just as an example
[03:28] <Sanne> intelikey: hey, did you get my message the other day? About alternate installer putting the cd in soulces.list?
[03:28] <Hawkwind> No need to compile everything.  If you want to compile everything then you shouldn't be running a deb/rpm based distro really
[03:28] <cLuEdArT> i realize that
[03:28] <intelikey> Sanne i surely did, ty
[03:28] <cLuEdArT> i love precompile .debs and .rpms :)
[03:28] <Hawkwind> If you, you're messing up your system
[03:29] <Sanne> intelikey: ah, cool. Then I got it done correctly :)
[03:29] <intelikey> you did indeed
[03:29] <Hawkwind> These dep problems you are having are more than likely because you compiled all this stuff and it can't find it in the correct place
[03:29] <cLuEdArT> for firefox beta 2, there is no package
[03:29] <cLuEdArT> so i compiled that from source too
[03:29] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: You don't need the latest software all the time
[03:29] <cLuEdArT> peerguardian is from source
[03:29] <cLuEdArT> frostwire was from source
[03:30] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: You could make deb packages of all those things
[03:30] <Hawkwind> It will keep your system a lot cleaner and probably work better as well
[03:30] <cLuEdArT> chkinstall?
[03:30] <Hawkwind> Ewwwwwww no
[03:30] <cLuEdArT> heh
[03:30] <Hawkwind> I wouldn't recommend that to my worst enemy
[03:30] <cLuEdArT> hahah, that's why I asked
[03:30] <cLuEdArT> i never use that
[03:30] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[03:31] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: Quick and simple how-to
[03:31] <timi> ive been trying to change the kdm background of the edgy kdm theme but i dont know where to go, i went to login in manager and taht did nothing
[03:31] <intelikey> i tried it once.... me wonders who it was that sujested chkinstall.....
[03:31] <cLuEdArT> dh_make?
[03:32] <intelikey> timi isn't edgy questions   #ubuntu+1   or have you asked there already?
[03:32] <Sanne> timi: there's a package for changing kdm themes I needed to install in dapper. It will change the whole theme, though, not only the background. I will look for the name, sec.
[03:33] <Sanne> timi: the package is kdmtheme
[03:33] <cLuEdArT> Hawkwind, you've had good luck with this method?
[03:33] <johny> mount:is't able to find /dev/fdo in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab....how can I fix it?
[03:34] <timi> Sanne thanks, intelikey im not using edgy its just edgy kdm theme
[03:34] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: I build packages for a living actually :P
[03:34] <Sanne> timi: you're welcome :)
[03:35] <Kr4t05> What would be a good GNU utility to zero write an entire flash drive?
[03:35] <cLuEdArT> heh, so, timeframe on this method vs ./configure then make?
[03:35] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: You don't use the ./configure and all that
[03:35] <cLuEdArT> Hawkwind, I fix aircraft for a living, lol, i'm no compiler.
[03:35] <Hawkwind> cLuEdArT: It takes about 10 minutes usually
[03:35] <cLuEdArT> ah ok
[03:35] <cLuEdArT> that's what i was trying to figure out
[03:35] <cLuEdArT> i will definetly give it a shot.
[03:36] <cLuEdArT> so as far as my broken packages now, its pretty much backup /home and format/reinstall?
[03:36] <Hawkwind> Why not reboot to the other kernel ?
[03:36] <Hawkwind> If it worked there, then use it
[03:37] <cLuEdArT> other kernel is no more.
[03:37] <cLuEdArT> gone from grizzub too
[03:37] <Hawkwind> So install it
[03:37] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know of a utility I could use to wipe a flash drive?
[03:37] <intelikey> dd
[03:37] <cLuEdArT> worth a shot.
[03:38] <cLuEdArT> goodbye smp kernel lol.
[03:38] <scythe> anyone know if samba can be ran from the livecd (hoary)
[03:39] <Sanne> night all
[03:39] <intelikey> aspell issue.  nobody ?
[03:40] <scythe> file recovery off a non booting ntfs using the ubuntu livecd anybody?
[03:40] <intelikey> scythe testdisk    'maybe'
[03:41] <scythe> testdisk?
[03:41] <scythe> tell me more!!
[03:41] <intelikey> yeah
[03:41] <cLuEdArT> hmmm, NTFS will only be read-only without fuse ntfs-3g
[03:41] <scythe> and that isnt on the livecd, is it cluedart
[03:41] <cLuEdArT> nope
[03:42] <intelikey> apt-get install testdisk, and run it.   errr not sure if the repos are setup in the live cd hoary version... you might want to check.
[03:42] <swamptu> what is easiest way to run gkrellm at startup?
[03:42] <cLuEdArT> can you mount ntfs from the livecd?
[03:42] <scythe> I am stuck on dialup...
[03:42] <scythe> cluedart, yeah
[03:42] <scythe> but I dont have any writeable disk
[03:43] <intelikey> scythe yes hoary should support ro ntfs
[03:43] <token__> trying to get the kernel-devel package, but `apt-get install kernel-devel' doesn't work
[03:43] <scythe> I can read the hd, I just cant write to this guys external hd
[03:43] <crimsun> what is "kernel-devel" supposed to provide?
[03:43] <token__> kernel headers
[03:43] <intelikey> linux-source  token
[03:43] <token__> tx
[03:43] <cLuEdArT> yeah, linux-source
[03:44] <crimsun> are you sure you don't mean linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential?
[03:44] <intelikey> linux-headers
[03:44] <scythe> I dont want to format his drive so I can write to it, he might get a little mad
[03:44] <intelikey> if ya just want the headers
[03:44] <stahnma> anybody having trouble with KDE apps launching after installing XGL?
[03:44] <token__> how can i search avail. packages?
[03:44] <stahnma> toeken_ : apt-cache search whatever
[03:44] <cLuEdArT> stahnma, i have trouble with java apps crawling
[03:45] <token__> tx. again
[03:45] <stahnma> cLuEdArt: I have had that problem too
[03:45] <cLuEdArT> stahnma, but they launch no problem
[03:45] <intelikey> scythe and you need to write to ntfs from linux why ?
[03:45] <scythe> token, synaptic or package manager in you menus
[03:45] <stahnma> I put on Sun JRE and the java stuff was nice
[03:45] <stahnma> I have problems launching Amarok and Konquerer
[03:45] <cLuEdArT> stahnma, with XGL, Azureus and FrostWire hate me.  heh.
[03:45] <stahnma> which just seem sodd
[03:45] <cLuEdArT> those aren't java based though
[03:45] <stahnma> Yeah, Azureus was really rough
[03:45] <stahnma> righte
[03:46] <stahnma> to fix Azureus I installed Sun's JRE
[03:46] <cLuEdArT> if you look on the compiz.net forums, you can get some good feedback there
[03:46] <naegling23> is anyone familiar with samba?
[03:46] <cLuEdArT> i already have jre.
[03:46] <stahnma> it looks like GIGJ sucks
[03:46] <scythe> guy has a laptop that is only ntfs, lost a sector and cant boot.  I am trying to recover the files off it  that I can read.  It is about 30 Gb worth of stuff, and he gave me an external HD.  Guess what... its NTFS too!!
[03:46] <stahnma> or at least wasn't working well with that
[03:46] <stahnma> did you run update-alternatives to reference Sun Java as primary?
[03:46] <cLuEdArT> if he has an xp setup disc, he can run "fixmbr" from it
[03:47] <cLuEdArT> last comment directed to scythe
[03:47] <cLuEdArT> stahnma, nope.
[03:47] <intelikey> scythe   mount -o remount,rw,umask=000 <mount.point/of.ntfs>      and if it breaks the fs  forget that you heard it here.    cause i'll deny it.
[03:47] <cLuEdArT> intelikey, LMAO
[03:48] <scythe> not the boot loader, its in the actual system
[03:48] <cLuEdArT> scythe, i misread, i was thinking boot sector
[03:48] <scythe> gets to the pretty WONDOW XP screen , then it blue screens
[03:48] <scythe> np clue
[03:48] <naegling23> scythe, I think that means its working normally
[03:48] <scythe> I am going to try Intelikey
[03:49] <cLuEdArT> what about "last known good configuration" or "recovery console" scythe
[03:49] <scythe> that was a premature return key, i meany your suggestion
[03:49] <scythe> no go cluedart
[03:49] <intelikey> </whistels inocently>
[03:49] <scythe> meant as well
[03:50] <cLuEdArT> scythe, A:> FORMAT C: /s y
[03:50] <cLuEdArT> lol
[03:50] <scythe> Not my call, and the cisco software he has wont work under wine
[03:51] <scythe> He will be pitching the hd, and replacing it.  I have dibbs on it, but if it is losing sectors (its a dell), then the drive probably wont be good for much longer
[03:51] <scythe> maybe 2-3 more years
[03:51] <intelikey> llf
[03:51] <naegling23> Ive had hard drives go on me, reformatted them, and gotten 5 or so years out of them
[03:52] <cLuEdArT> exactly
[03:52] <naegling23> those things are weird
[03:52] <cLuEdArT> formatting can potentially fix it
[03:52] <cLuEdArT> i've had great luck with my drives
[03:52] <scythe> so have I , but laptops are ..... untrustworthy.  I think he would rather not risk it
[03:52] <cLuEdArT> doh, it's a laptop.
[03:53] <cLuEdArT> well, then that starts getting pricey
[03:53] <scythe> I have only had 2 drives go bad on me, one was after a cross country move... the other was a "bad" maxtor
[03:53] <cLuEdArT> brb
[03:53] <scythe> the maxtor lasted 3 years after he replaced it
[03:53] <scythe> :)
[03:53] <intelikey> llf   low level format    make or break the drive....  :)
[03:54] <scythe> oo.org loads way to slow
[03:54] <scythe> :(
[03:54] <intelikey> i don't do oo
[03:54] <intelikey> that very reason
[03:55] <intelikey> aspell   Error: No word lists can be found for the language "en_US".
[03:55] <scythe> hehe, I have to deal with the government.... nothing but office there.
[03:55] <scythe> intel.. could you explain out that mount command you gave me?
[03:56] <scythe> mainly the umask=000
[03:56] <intelikey> where is the drive mounted that you want to write to ?     `mount `
[03:56] <token__> trying to install/update via apt-get results in "failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `evolution': Input/output error." i tried to clean the cache etc...
[03:56] <naegling23> hey, my computer seems to make more fan noise under windows, is this true, or is it just me
[03:56] <token__> few google results
[03:57] <scythe> or /media/sda1
[03:57] <intelikey> k
[03:57] <scythe> ive been switching betweek ubuntu and knoppix lately :)
[03:57] <intelikey> sudo mount -o remount,rw,umask=000 /media/sda1
[03:57] <intelikey> drop that in the konsole
[03:58] <scythe> got thatgot that, what is the -o switch do, and what is umask=000
[03:58] <intelikey> err live cd   gnome-terminal
[03:58] <scythe> the rest I understand
[03:58] <intelikey> answers to those are found in    man mount
[03:59] <scythe> answers in man mount are about as clear as mud
[03:59] <scythe> and I am at a mac right now, cant guarentee the same man pages
[04:00] <intelikey>   -o     Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a  comma  sepa-
[04:00] <intelikey>               rated  string of options.
[04:01] <scythe> k
[04:01] <intelikey> from man mount.....   you can read it for your self....
[04:02] <intelikey>        umask=value
[04:02] <intelikey>               Set the umask (the bitmask  of  the  permissions  that  are  not
[04:02] <intelikey>               present).  The default is the umask of the current process.  The
[04:02] <intelikey>               value is given in octal.
[04:02] <scythe> what does that mean in english
[04:02] <scythe> (I have man mount open on my laptop now)
[04:02] <intelikey> means it sets the permissions
[04:02] <scythe> like chmod then
[04:03] <scythe> ?
[04:03] <intelikey> can't chmod a file system that doesn't have permissions bit   that options is only for fs w/o perms bit
[04:03] <scythe> k
[04:03] <intelikey> i.e.  M$
[04:04] <scythe> and the 000 is world, group, user rwx in a very simply put manner
[04:04] <intelikey> yep
[04:04] <scythe> I still use M$, I have yet found anything that can rip a dvd as quick (k9copy I am still playing with)
[04:04] <Kr4t05> What's /dev/zero?
[04:05] <scythe> null?
[04:05] <intelikey> 0
[04:05] <intelikey> dd if=/dev/zero count=1 bs=1
[04:06] <Kr4t05> intelikey: Sweet, I think I may have solved my problem. :)
[04:06] <scythe> thanx intel, I may be back, depending on how he 30Gb of transfer goes!
[04:06] <cLuEdArT> heh
[04:07] <Kr4t05> I was trying to find a way to zero-write a USB drive I had, so I figured I'd dd /dev/zero onto it. :)
[04:07] <swamptu> Q: When i run glxgears the gears are spinning but i receive no output in the konsole
[04:07] <intelikey> Kr4t05 that would write all '0' on the disk
[04:08] <Kr4t05> intelikey: exactly.
[04:09] <intelikey> Kr4t05 most often that is used for a security precaution.  gennerally first using /dev/random  or /dev/urandom   a few times then following with zero and a format
[04:09] <Kr4t05> intelikey: I was trying to fix a bad partition table on the disk.
[04:10] <intelikey> partition table is in the first sector.  a block size of 1 or 2 k  and count of 1  then repartitioning.
[04:11] <BluesKaj> imbrandon, i still need to install libvisual-0.4-0, but the terminal says there's no installation candidate...is there a way to solv e this ?
[04:12] <intelikey> libvisual0.2 - Audio visualization framework
[04:12] <intelikey> libvisual0.2-dev - Audio visualisation framework (development package)
[04:12] <intelikey> libvisual0.2-plugins - Audio visualization framework plugins
[04:12] <intelikey> maybe one of those superceed it
[04:12] <Kr4t05> It works!
[04:12] <cLuEdArT> swamptu, use "glxgears -printfps"
[04:12] <Kr4t05> Eureka!
[04:13] <swamptu> yea figured it out hehe thx, I just can't seem to get ut2k4 working....i was playing it, then i upgraded to new patch.  Now i just see splash screen for a split second and then nothing.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> intel , were you talking about libvisual-0.4-0 ?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> intelikey
[04:14] <intelikey> --i acknowledge that this is not a bench mark     or some such on the glxgears
[04:15] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah wondering if that's the ubuntu dapper version of that package
[04:15] <intelikey> BluesKaj you have edgy?
[04:15] <BluesKaj> well. I am running kubuntu Dapper
[04:15] <imbrandon> BluesKaj, do you have my repo ? " sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0 libvisual-0.4-plugins " and tell me the output ( i assumed you have done apt-get update )
[04:16] <BluesKaj> yup imbrandon , sure did
[04:16] <imbrandon> ok paste that line i just put in quotes
[04:16] <imbrandon> and tell me the output
[04:17] <intelikey> imbrandon is that the same as the libvisual0.2  ?
[04:17] <BluesKaj> Package libvisual-0.4-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:17] <BluesKaj> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:17] <BluesKaj> is only available from another source
[04:17] <AWOSDev> Can you help me with Samba?
[04:17] <imbrandon> intelikey, it replaces it, its only for the new amarok
[04:19] <intelikey> imbrandon i see... i was wondering why the name change...   libvisual0. libvisual-0.  often that will mean major change.
[04:20] <imbrandon> intelikey, becosue upstream libvisual sucks and we had to mangle the packages
[04:20] <intelikey> well i go now.
[04:21] <rod> hi, im experiencing slow video playback with an ATI mobility card and while researching the problem was told to check the output of "fglrxinfo" and it says mesa3d.org not ATI, is this a problem, and if it it how can i go about fixing it?  thanks.
[04:22] <Tachyon> If I wanted to dock Thunderbird in the system tray so that it can stay open to check mail, what would be a good way of doing this?
[04:22] <imbrandon> !ati > rod
[04:24] <__mikem> hey imbrandon, theres someone in #ubuntu whose hostmask contains the term terrorist, and being an american, that offends me
[04:24] <__mikem> his username is banana
[04:24] <rod> thanks brandon!
[04:25] <habakkuk> hello
[04:25] <fowlduck> __mikem: you said terrorist, i'm angry
[04:25] <habakkuk> anyone alve?
[04:25] <cLuEdArT> fowlduck, you said terrorist, i'm angry
[04:25] <lupine_85> gasp!
[04:25] <__mikem> cLuEdArT you said terrorist I am angry
[04:25] <lupine_85> and he's... french...
[04:25] <cLuEdArT> exactly
[04:25] <fowlduck> __mikem: you said terrorist, i'm angry
[04:25] <lupine_85> *sigh*
[04:25] <__mikem> and here we go round the mullburybush
[04:25] <fowlduck> and...the....circle.....continues....
[04:26] <cLuEdArT> and i'm U.S. military, and I believe in free speach, and if that guy wants to have a gay vhost, so be-it.
[04:26] <__mikem> @ping
[04:26] <BluesKaj> __mikem, hey get a life ...
[04:26] <__mikem> I have a life and it sucks
[04:26] <NthDegree> BluesKaj: he can always take yours
[04:27] <imbrandon> hey CHILL
[04:27] <imbrandon> everyone
[04:27] <lupine_85> just /ignore __mikem -- it makes life so much easier :)
[04:27] <cLuEdArT> lol
[04:27] <__mikem> hey I am a regular in these chanels, so don't treat me like some troll
[04:27] <lupine_85> seriously. I have
[04:27] <imbrandon> __mikem, i know i was talking to everyone
[04:27] <cLuEdArT> hahah regulars have some kinda l33t priveliges?
[04:28] <__mikem> imbrandon I was talking to lupine_85, I know what you meant
[04:28] <habakkuk> lol
[04:28] <habakkuk> lag
[04:28] <NthDegree> yeah, where's my OP status and my ass kissing
[04:28] <NthDegree> i'm a regular
[04:28] <habakkuk> wel, once again does anoune know HOWTO deal with Wine emulator ?
[04:28] <__mikem> NthDegree, checks in the mail
[04:28] <__mikem> #winehq
[04:28] <imbrandon> winehq.org
[04:28] <lupine_85> habakkuk: what are you trying to do with it?
[04:29] <NthDegree> habakkuk: Wine Is Not an Emulator (WINE)
[04:29] <habakkuk> lupine_85: well, i want to find it ;-) i followed by install instructhions on its webpage, but
[04:29] <habakkuk> finally i dont know where is it placed and stuff
[04:30] <lupine_85> once you've run sudo apt-get install wine you can run a windows binary like this:- "wine file.exe"
[04:30] <lupine_85> or right-click on a .exe in konqueror and choose open with.. and in the box type wine
[04:30] <habakkuk> i did it via synaptic
[04:30] <lupine_85> yep, that's fine
[04:30] <__mikem> lupine_85 you forgot one step...Crossing your heart and praying to god that it works
[04:30] <NthDegree> same thing habakkuk
[04:31] <loer> ....
[04:31] <habakkuk> i tried it , but i have No wine there
[04:31] <NthDegree> habakkuk: i suggest you start by running winecfg
[04:31] <loer> I love you
[04:31] <__mikem> um loer, I believe you are in the wrong chanel
[04:31] <lupine_85> so when you type "wine --version" in some random terminal, what does it say?
[04:31] <habakkuk> sorry guys, i have linux 1st time, about 4 hours so im confused a bit
[04:32] <NthDegree> loer, if you haven't got anything remotely smart to say, say in in #ubuntu-offtopic or don't say it at all
[04:32] <__mikem> lol
[04:32] <habakkuk> habakkuk@Aicha:~$ winecfg
[04:32] <habakkuk> bash: winecfg: command not found
[04:32] <habakkuk> habakkuk@Aicha:~$
[04:32] <loer> Yes
[04:32] <habakkuk> ;] 
[04:32] <__mikem> loer yes what?
[04:32] <lupine_85> 1. use pastebin
[04:33] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[04:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:33] <NthDegree> shall I call HIM
[04:33] <lupine_85> 2. you can't have installed it
[04:33] <__mikem> NthDegree, who partell is "HIM"
[04:33] <habakkuk> sorry for flood
[04:33] <NthDegree> S*veas
[04:33] <lupine_85> are the files /usr/bin/wine and /usr/bin/winecfg present?
[04:33] <habakkuk> well, what did i do then ?
[04:34] <habakkuk> lemme check\
[04:34] <__mikem> ls /usr/bin | grep wine
[04:34] <NthDegree> which wine
[04:34] <NthDegree> which winecfg
[04:34] <NthDegree> ^.^
[04:34] <__mikem> any, that command will grep all items in /usr/bin with the word wine in their name
[04:35] <NthDegree> yeah but WINE doesn't always go in /usr/bin
[04:35] <NthDegree> it may go in /usr/local/bin
[04:35] <habakkuk> ive got there plenty of shit but no wine files at all
[04:35] <NthDegree> !language
[04:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:35] <NthDegree> !coc
[04:35] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:35] <lupine_85> if you search for wine in synaptic, does the package show up as installed?
[04:35] <__mikem> fine ls /usr/*bin | grep wine
[04:35] <habakkuk> LOL!
[04:35] <habakkuk> forgive. ;)
[04:36] <|lostbyte|> :)
[04:36] <NthDegree> go to gentoo if you like to swear a lot (they permit it since users get frustrated with all the bugs)
[04:36] <habakkuk> lupine_85:  may i privmsg you about that?
[04:36] <habakkuk> theres to mooch 'conjetion'
[04:36] <habakkuk> ;)
[04:36] <|lostbyte|> habakkuk, dpkg -l | grep wine
[04:37] <lupine_85> erm, no
[04:37] <habakkuk> erm, thanx :/
[04:37] <lupine_85> TBH I should go to bed anyway
[04:37] <__mikem> lostbyte's command works best
[04:37] <NthDegree> night lupine_85
[04:37] <lupine_85> night
[04:37] <__mikem> you could do ls /* | grep wine
[04:37] <__mikem> nvm that doesn't work
[04:37] <NthDegree> or which wine && which winecfg
[04:38] <NthDegree> which is the appropriate command
[04:38] <fildo> morning felllow kubunters
[04:38] <__mikem> username@computername:~$which wine
[04:38] <|lostbyte|> habakkuk, HAve you installed wine in the first place ? how and from where ?
[04:38] <__mikem> username@computername:~$which winecfg
[04:38] <|lostbyte|> fildo, Morning.
[04:39] <habakkuk> I have no ide
[04:39] <NthDegree> habakkuk: sudo apt-get install wine
[04:39] <habakkuk> i just followed by instructions on www, maybe i just upgrded that list
[04:39] <habakkuk> dunno
[04:39] <habakkuk> okay
[04:39] <|lostbyte|> habakkuk, whats the out put for --------> dpkg -l | grep wine
[04:39] <habakkuk> |lostbyte|: i have no idea what is this
[04:39] <habakkuk> ;)
[04:40] <|lostbyte|> habakkuk, or do what NthDegree just said.
[04:40] <habakkuk> just performed
[04:40] <habakkuk> strange transfer less than 1kb/sec
[04:41] <NthDegree> habakkuk: slow server methinks
[04:41] <__mikem> NthDegree, just join the FBSD chatroom, and you can have the best of both worlds
[04:41] <NthDegree> ROFL
[04:41] <NthDegree> or (try) and get a BSD system to boot off a loopback device XD
[04:42] <NthDegree> LMFAO
[04:42] <__mikem> NthDegree ever hear of something called FreeSBIE
[04:42] <NthDegree> __mikem: I didn't even run as administrator when I was using Windows
[04:42] <NthDegree> nope, what is it?
[04:42] <__mikem> Live freebsd cd
[04:43] <habakkuk> ah another question
[04:43] <habakkuk> do i need allthat file located in /usr/bin/ ?
[04:43] <rich_mon> anyone up for ati driver install?  I need help with it.     I did it once but i'm not too sure it took.  How would I check that out?
[04:44] <NthDegree> habakkuk: now i mean this in the politest possible way RTFM!!!!
[04:44] <habakkuk> didnt get ya anyway
[04:44] <__mikem> RTFM = Read the F***ing Manuel
[04:45] <habakkuk> i'm speding another like feefteenth hour here with my ne w os
[04:45] <habakkuk> five
[04:45] <rich_mon> i hear ua
[04:45] <NthDegree> __mikem: you mean Read The "Fine" Manual :-)
[04:45] <habakkuk> and im as impressed as confused
[04:45] <__mikem> NthDegree, check the PM I just sent you
[04:45] <NthDegree> just did
[04:45] <rich_mon> any one familiar with ATI driver installs?
[04:46] <rich_mon> heh, not a favorite subject isee
[04:46] <NthDegree> rich_mon: the wiki has a HOWTO
[04:46] <NthDegree> !ati
[04:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:46] <__mikem> How to use ati card, step 1, mount to a piece of wood, 2 take 10 paces and turn, 3 load gun, 4 fire at will, 5 buy an nvidia card
[04:47] <NthDegree> __mikem: you evil non-FOSS supporting f00l
[04:47] <rich_mon> mike: no kidding but i'm stuck with it
[04:47] <NthDegree> How to use ati card, step 1, mount to a piece of wood, 2 take 10 paces and turn, 3 load gun, 4 fire at will, 5 buy an INTEL card
[04:47] <rich_mon> best solution: go back to windows
[04:47] <NthDegree> intel have opensourced and GPLd their main stuff :)
[04:47] <NthDegree> rich_mon: read the howto
[04:47] <__mikem> NthDegree, what do you mean, I just told everyone to blow away their ati card with a gun, how much more support for FOSS do you want
[04:47] <NthDegree> !ati
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:47] <NthDegree> !ati > rich_mon
[04:48] <NthDegree> just incase you didn't read
[04:48] <|lostbyte|> NthDegree, Is it better that nvidia ?
[04:48] <unix_infidel> can you restore the windows mbr from the ubuntu live cd?
[04:48] <NthDegree> |lostbyte|: the open-source drivers are said to be, but the cards are cr@p
[04:48] <NthDegree> unix_infidel: are you insane
[04:48] <NthDegree> unix_infidel: use GRUB and chainload
[04:49] <unix_infidel> NthDegree: i'm trying to restore the windows bootloader for a reason.
[04:49] <NthDegree> unix_infidel: then use the windows recovery console to do it
[04:49] <unix_infidel> was wondering if its possible and how to do it.
[04:49] <|lostbyte|> unix_infidel, Sad to tell you, your stuck with linux for life, j/k
[04:49] <unix_infidel> lostbyte: i dont mind that.
[04:49] <__mikem> this is why I use vmware
[04:49] <unix_infidel> NthDegree: its asking for an admin password which i set and it wont accept.
[04:49] <NthDegree> unix_infidel:  Windows XP CD, boot it - then press R then do the commands fixmbr fixboot
[04:50] <unix_infidel> NthDegree: look above.
[04:50] <NthDegree> ZOMG
[04:50] <unix_infidel> i'd do that if i could getinto recovery console.
[04:50] <NthDegree> you mean you can't download a resource kit and use the commands!?
[04:50] <|lostbyte|> unix_infidel, oh, then the format command in windows with the "/mbr" option
[04:51] <NthDegree> microsoft.com and engage common sense (Windows XP resource kits contain those types of commands)
[04:51] <|lostbyte|> :P
[04:52] <NthDegree> or grab a binary copy of the mbr and rawwrite it
[04:53] <|lostbyte|> YEah, that would be a more linuxphilic way.
[04:54] <__mikem> NthDegree, I signed it, it isn't a big deal
[04:54] <Admiral_Chicago> NthDegree, why not
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> i haven't gotten around to it yet but i'm on a LoCo
[04:57] <rcmn> does anyone know a programme that would read my directory reconize the type of file (audio format mp3,wav,etc...) and reencode the way i need.,
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> rcmn, depending on the formats, you don't want to do that
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> like its from mp3 to ogg
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i use mpeg321 for my stuff
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> but it's mostly for mp3 to wav
[05:01] <|lostbyte|> rcmn, What format do you want it to convert to ?
[05:03] <NthDegree> rcmn, get Audacity
[05:03] <|lostbyte|> NthDegree, That can do ogg ?
[05:04] <NthDegree> then open the MP3 files and save them as OGG or w/e
[05:04] <NthDegree> yeah it can do
[05:04] <|lostbyte|> huh..k
[05:04] <NthDegree> and it doesn't need non-free libs either XD
[05:04] <NthDegree> to open MP3s is considered free on this thing it's wierd
[05:04] <rcmn> oups sorry i had to step away , about the format i would say Mp3
[05:04] <rcmn> just because it's portable
[05:05] <rcmn> audacity does it ?
[05:06] <rcmn> hum i see
[05:06] <rcmn> ok i'll look more into it
[05:07] <root_> well  i followed the ATI driver install instructions but...
[05:08] <rich_mon> fglrxinfo
[05:08] <rich_mon> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:08] <rich_mon> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:08] <rich_mon> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:08] <rich_mon> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[05:08] <rich_mon> but as you can see, it didn't take
[05:10] <rich_mon> anyone here who was helping me about 20 minutes ago?
[05:10] <rich_mon> lol   can't remember who i was talking to
[05:10] <rich_mon> sry
[05:10] <rich_mon> about the ATI driver install
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> rich_mon, what is the problem now
[05:10] <rich_mon> well  i followed the ATI driver install instructions but...
[05:11] <Admiral_Chicago> yes?
[05:11] <rich_mon> but it didn't take
[05:11] <rich_mon> when i check on the install, it doesn't say what it shoult
[05:11] <rich_mon> it says something about mesa driver
[05:11] <Admiral_Chicago> in adept?
[05:11] <Admiral_Chicago> what is the error?
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> use a pastebin if it is long
[05:12] <rich_mon> root@Ubu:~# fglrxinfo
[05:12] <rich_mon> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:12] <rich_mon> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:12] <rich_mon> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:12] <rich_mon> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[05:12] <rich_mon> that's 9ot
[05:12] <rich_mon> it
[05:12] <DemonThing> there.
[05:12] <|lostbyte|> rich_mon, glxinfo | grep direct ?
[05:12] <DemonThing> uh ho
[05:12] <DemonThing> hi*
[05:12] <DemonThing> :)
[05:12] <UQlev> rich_mon, what is your CPU?
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> rich_mon, did you install the propiety driver or vesa
[05:13] <rich_mon> it
[05:13] <rich_mon> direct rendering: No
[05:13] <rich_mon> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:13] <rich_mon> amd 2700
[05:13] <rich_mon> ati 9700 pro
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i think vesa is the OS version
[05:13] <rcmn> nthdegree: audacity is an audio editor not an ripper on the fly
[05:13] <DemonThing> I have a question. I'm on a laptop with both wireless and wired ethernet. How do I configure stuff so that when the wired ethernet is connected, it uses that? (grabbing packages over wireless is slow :P)
[05:13] <UQlev> rich_mon, 32 or 64 bit?
[05:13] <rich_mon> 32
[05:13] <NthDegree> rcmn, i know
[05:14] <rich_mon> ya i just did the install according to the wiki
[05:14] <UQlev> rich_mon, easyubuntu has ati driver and installs it easily
[05:14] <NthDegree> rcmn, you can rip using anything audacity will allow you to convert
[05:14] <rich_mon> well actually, i used easy ubuntu previously
[05:14] <NthDegree> otherwise you'll just have WAV files that are very big usually
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> rich_mon, or you can do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <rcmn> i could use lame with a script as well but what i need is a mass ripper if u see what i mean
[05:15] <Hobbsee> DemonThing: happens automagically with knetworkmanager
[05:15] <DemonThing> I still have wireless connected, though
[05:15] <DemonThing> so it still all goes through that
[05:15] <Kr4t05> KDE4 shall pwn the world. :D
[05:15] <DemonThing> :D
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> and change driver to flgx or whatever it is
[05:16] <rich_mon> ya. i actually did that
[05:16] <DemonThing> fglrx
[05:16] <rich_mon> i went into xorg.conf and configured it there
[05:16] <rcmn> Demonthing: if it doesn't just do sudo ifconfig eth0 down (to put wired down) or sudo ifconfig ath0 down (for wireless down)
[05:16] <rich_mon> i added the fglrx parts
[05:16] <_Dink> did you blacklist fglrx ?
[05:16] <DemonThing> ahh, right
[05:16] <rich_mon> no not that i know of
[05:16] <rich_mon> what is that?
[05:17] <_Dink> its where fglrx wont be able to get into any bars/clubs
[05:17] <_Dink> put it on a blacklist and they wont let it in
[05:18] <_Dink> its in linux-restricted-modules-common I think
[05:18] <Hobbsee> DemonThing: it shouldnt
[05:18] <rcmn> Demonthing: to get it up " sudo ifconfig eth0 up $$ dhcpclient eth0 " (to get wired up ) or " sudo ifconfig ath0 up $$ dhcpclient ath0 " (to get wireless running)
[05:18] <Kr4t05> NO!
[05:18] <_Dink> add fglrx to it
[05:19] <Nereid`laptop`af> er
[05:19] <Nereid`laptop`af> poop on Konversation :)
[05:19] <rich_mon> Dink are you talking to me? lol
[05:19] <_Dink> yes
[05:19] <rcmn> Demonthing replace the "$$" By "&&"
[05:19] <rich_mon> are you joking about blacklisting the criver i'm trying to use?
[05:19] <rich_mon> driver?
[05:19] <_Dink> no im not
[05:20] <DemonThing> alright I got it, thanks.
[05:20] <rcmn> k
[05:20] <_Dink> DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx"
[05:20] <rich_mon> so to use fglrx, i have to black list it?
[05:20] <_Dink> which howto are you following ?
[05:20] <rich_mon> the ubuntu ati
[05:20] <_Dink> if you building your own package etc... you should yes
[05:21] <rich_mon> i'm running ubuntu
[05:21] <rich_mon> I'm trying to get ut2004 to play
[05:21] <rcmn> so anyone about the mass reencoding audio ?
[05:21] <rich_mon> I'm not having a lot of luck yet
[05:21] <_Dink> which card do you have ?
[05:21] <rich_mon> 9700 pro
[05:21] <_Dink> ill trade you my 9600 and ill get yours to work ?
[05:21] <rich_mon> AMD 2700
[05:22] <rich_mon> idk
[05:22] <rich_mon> ya sure
[05:22] <rich_mon> lol
[05:22] <_Dink> lol
[05:22] <_Dink> yea ive gotten mine to work 99.9%
[05:22] <rcmn> ya ? lol
[05:22] <rcmn> minnesota
[05:22] <_Dink> damn 3d acceleration fails on cedega
[05:22] <rich_mon> well, that would be nice
[05:22] <rich_mon> are u using ubuntu?
[05:22] <_Dink> it works on 2.6.17 kernel but not .15
[05:23] <_Dink> kubuntu same difference
[05:23] <rich_mon> Dink, i'm new to linux stuff  so i won't necessarily get your references   lol
[05:24] <rich_mon> well, anyways, it seems that I ought to be able to get this to work
[05:24] <_Dink> edit that file I told you
[05:24] <rich_mon> I thought my hardware would support it qauite well
[05:24] <rich_mon> ok, what is the edit?
[05:25] <rich_mon> what file? xorg.conf?
[05:25] <_Dink> you have to edit that yes
[05:25] <rich_mon> ok
[05:25] <_Dink> and the linux-restricted something that I posted earlier
[05:26] <_Dink> if forum was up i would post you the ati installer script
[05:26] <_Dink> which works really well
[05:26] <_Dink> well only if you know when to catch it if it errors out :P
[05:26] <rich_mon> i don't know nothing
[05:27] <rcmn> yep u're root
[05:27] <rcmn> lol
[05:27] <NthDegree> !source-o-matic
[05:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:27] <rich_mon> ya, i know
[05:27] <rich_mon> but anyways, what are the edits?
[05:28] <_Dink> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235145
[05:29] <_Dink> good luck
[05:29] <_Dink> and bewarned it doesnt catch errors... you have to do it yourself
[05:29] <_Dink> but it basically does the edits for you
[05:30] <_Dink> it pretty much does this... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-26e8b0d4be861a6b7c545dc21c45232f909d8ca2
[05:30] <_Dink> im out for the night... hopefully tomorrow someone can help me with my ati problem :P
[05:31] <rcmn> what ati ?
[05:32] <rcmn> 9600 ?
[05:34] <rich_mon> thank Sink
[05:34] <rich_mon> Dinkl
[05:36] <rredd4> are the updates safe to download?
[05:40] <flaccid> how can i kill a process that want die when i do kill pid
[05:44] <|lostbyte|> flaccid, killall -9 <programname>
[05:45] <flaccid> thanks i forgot about that one :)
[05:56] <ryan_> is it possible to change premissions of a file and all its contents
[05:56] <rich_mon> back from installing ATI vid driver with a script.    still not quite working
[05:56] <DaSkreech> ryan_: What?
[05:57] <rich_mon> fglrxinfo
[05:57] <rich_mon> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:57] <rich_mon> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:57] <rich_mon> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:57] <rich_mon> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[05:57] <rich_mon> i think i should have seen something other than Mesa, no?
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Did you change it to fglrx?
[05:58] <rich_mon> in xorg.conf?
[05:58] <rich_mon> ya
[05:59] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[06:00] <rich_mon> when i enter fglrxinfo, i'm supposed to see something about ati drivers, but i get the Mesa info instead
[06:00] <rich_mon> so that tells me it's not right
[06:00] <rich_mon> right?
[06:01] <rich_mon> i've tried this 3 different ways now   lol
[06:01] <rich_mon> i'm getting to know how not to install ati drivers pretty well now
[06:02] <rich_mon> next i'll try it in russian
[06:03] <ryan_> some how my drive and all its files' permissions got changed is there anyway to change them all with one command
[06:03] <rich_mon> i've tried the update that comes with Ubuntu, the EasyUbuntu method and now the script method
[06:03] <rich_mon> 3 up ,  3 down
[06:03] <rich_mon> side retired
[06:03] <rich_mon> lol
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Does glxgears run?
[06:03] <rich_mon> yep
[06:04] <rich_mon> that was really exciting   lol
[06:04] <actinic> fps in glxgears?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> ryan_:You want a file or your drive changed?
[06:04] <rich_mon> well, i think it's a config problem, but im not to sure
[06:04] <ryan_> the file that my drive is mounted in
[06:04] <rich_mon> how do i check fps in glxgears?
[06:05] <actinic> glxgears -fps
[06:05] <ryan_> i know how to do each file one by one but that will take forever
[06:05] <actinic> correction: glxgears -printfps
[06:05] <DaSkreech> ryan_: How do you do one file?
[06:06] <ryan_> right clicking on the file and going in to the properties...im a nob
[06:07] <actinic> ryan_, right click on folder.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> ryan_: Ahhh :) What are you changing the properties to?
[06:07] <rich_mon> 222 fps in glxgears
[06:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> actinic, it's glxgears -info (i'm using edgy though)
[06:07] <NthDegree> rich_mon: that is fine
[06:07] <rich_mon> ok
[06:08] <NthDegree> some people get 15000fps but anything above 50 usually indicates 3d acceleration is working
[06:08] <actinic> Telroth_Plushie|, glxgears -prinftps works just fine
[06:08] <actinic> what vid card rich_mon ?
[06:08] <NthDegree> actinic, so does glxgears --i-agree-this-is-not-a-benchmark -fps or w/e
[06:08] <ryan_> to let everyone on my network read and wriite
[06:08] <rich_mon> ya, well i still think my video card is configured ....   9700 pro
[06:09] <NthDegree> rich_mon:
[06:09] <rich_mon> ya?
[06:09] <NthDegree> there's a way to tell 1 sec
[06:09] <rich_mon> 9700 PRO
[06:09] <rich_mon> might as well be a jaton 4mb
[06:09] <rich_mon> my first video card
[06:09] <rich_mon> hehe
[06:09] <patrick_> hey anyone know where i should put a deb if i want aptitide to find it for a reinstall?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> patrick_,  its from the repos?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> ryan_: I can help you to get access to your stuff if you give me more info
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> the apt cache is in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:11] <patrick_> Dr.Willis . nooo i have a package
[06:11] <patrick_> i put it there and it says it cant find it.
[06:11] <ryan_> DaSkreech: what do you need
[06:11] <actinic> NthDegree, how long did it take to type " --i-agree-this-is-not-a-benchmark -fps". ;p;
[06:11] <actinic> lol
[06:11] <DaSkreech> ryan_: Where is the folder you are trying to change?
[06:11] <NthDegree> lol
[06:11] <patrick_> Dr_Willis >E: I wasn't able to locate file for the lg3d-core package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[06:11] <NthDegree> it's something funny like that
[06:12] <DaSkreech> It's iacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:12] <actinic> there ya go
[06:12] <ryan_> DaSkreech:/home/ryan/Drives/80GB
[06:12] <patrick_> Dr_Willis >i put it in there already
[06:12] <rich_mon> ok, well i still don't think i'm configured to use the ati driver
[06:12] <actinic> DaSkreech, now type that 20 times quickly, lol
[06:12] <patrick_> Dr_Willis >still cant find it
[06:12] <DaSkreech> ryan_: Who owns that folder?
[06:12] <NthDegree>  iacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmark iacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmark iacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmark iacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmark iacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:12] <ryan_> i do
[06:12] <DaSkreech> iacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmarkiacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmarkiacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmarkiacknowledgethistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:12] <NthDegree> you could flood with that ZOMG
[06:12] <actinic> :)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> patrick_,  did this pacakge come from some repo you got in your sources.list or did you just download it from some random site?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Not as young as I used to be
[06:13] <DaSkreech> ryan_: What permissons are you changing?
[06:13] <actinic> iamnotageek iamnotageek iamnotageek iamnotageek
[06:14] <rich_mon> is running ati drivers on linux always this hard?
[06:14] <actinic> why yes, yes it is
[06:15] <rich_mon> lol
[06:15] <patrick_> Downloaded from suns website
[06:15] <rich_mon> i knew it
[06:15] <saasdasd> u
[06:15] <ryan_> DaSkreech: i want to be able to read and write to it freely from another computer with out a password
[06:15] <patrick_> Dr_Willis >Doesnloaded ffmo suns wbsite and ever since apt-get and aptitude wont work at all saying it needs to be reisntalled.
[06:15] <RnB-Tunes> http://www.RnB-Tunes.dl.am << new RnB, Hip Hop, Dancehall Tracks!!! free Download... CHECK IT!!!!
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !kops
[06:16] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[06:16] <actinic> spam!
[06:16] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> RnB-Tunes: needs a boot :)
[06:16] <Hobbsee> RnB-Tunes: please dont spam
[06:16] <DaSkreech> It's a bot
[06:16] <actinic> crap, spam even in irc channels
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Or a script kiddie
[06:16] <DaSkreech>  Either way
[06:17] <Hobbsee> [14:16]  [Whois]  RnB-Tunes is n=RnB-Tune@p54982F75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (podster.de Web-Client)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Joined and said that in the same second
[06:17] <BlueFox> what is the command to install a program again..... yes im a NooBlet
[06:17] <rich_mon> ok well maybe this is poking a bee hive with a stick, but how about    Mx518 and the IMWheel
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> patrick_,  what you are trying to do wont work..  why dont ya just manually install that .deb ?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> BlueFox: Apt-get or adept
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> rich_mon,  i got that mouse. :P i like it..
[06:17] <BlueFox> sudo apt-get install <program>?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> BlueFox: Yup
[06:17] <BlueFox> thank you
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> rich_mon,  cant recall ever needing imwheel. but i dont use the extra buttons much.
[06:17] <rich_mon> $10000000000   if you help me get it to work
[06:17] <DaSkreech> ryan_: What do you mean another computer?
[06:18] <rich_mon> u take paypal?
[06:18] <patrick_> Dr_Willis > gives erros wont install
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> rich_mon,   go to the gentoo wikis they cover it.
[06:18] <DemonThing`> rich_mon: first you need to set the mouse protocol to ExplorerPS/2
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> rich_mon,  and that "ubuntu hacks" book has a chapter.. and the ubuntu wiki proberly dies as well
[06:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> if someone wants to go fix azureus in edgy, i'll give them a cookie
[06:18] <DemonThing`> you can do that when doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:18] <DemonThing`> er, that lets you choose it
[06:18] <DemonThing`> but yeah, consult gentoo wiki :)
[06:19] <rafael> hello
[06:19] <DemonThing`> they have a good article on it
[06:19] <rich_mon> i have it set to Esplorer/PS2 and i got the back buttons to work
[06:19] <DaSkreech> hi
[06:19] <DemonThing`> Hi rafael
[06:19] <rafael> I can't figure out where I change it so I can switch workspaces through the keyboard
[06:19] <rich_mon> I need the wheel to work when I press down ,
[06:19] <actinic> wow, 252 online and everyone's talking at once!
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> rafael,  gee. i just set the  mouse wheel to change  workspaces
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> i move to the panel.. and scroll the wheel
[06:20] <DaSkreech> rafael: tryCtrl+F<n>
[06:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> rafael, it's keyboard shortcuts
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> under gnome - i go to the little mini-desktops applet and scroll
[06:20] <rafael> I don't have a mouse wheel on my laptop touchpad :(
[06:20] <DaSkreech> ryan_: What do you mean another computer?
[06:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> ctrl+F<n> works
[06:20] <rafael> DaSkreech: it worked :)
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> rafael,  Egads! the humanity! :P
[06:20] <ryan_> DaSkreech: i have a moded xbox that i can streem video and some how when i reinstalled the permissions changed or i did something to change them so i cant streem
[06:20] <rafael> Telroth_Plushie|: where can I find those keyboard shortcuts?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> rafael,  i wonder if my laptops touchpad scroll area works for that.
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Hmm Ok so what are you changing them to?
[06:21] <DemonThing`> Dr_Willis: I just tried it on this laptop and it works :)
[06:21] <ryan_> ive just been checking all the boxes in the advanced permissions menu
[06:22] <morcego> alguem aqui fala portugus?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> DemonThing`,  heh heh
[06:22] <rafael> Telroth_Plushie|: where's the keyboard shortcuts? I'm rather new to kde :(
[06:22] <DemonThing`> also fun with the tabs in Konqueror or Konversation
[06:22] <DaSkreech> ryan_: and then you can stream?
[06:22] <rafael> morcego: eu
[06:22] <ryan_> yeah
[06:23] <morcego> rafael: como eu instalo os codec pra rodar mp3?
[06:23] <rafael> morcego: pvt
[06:23] <morcego> tem em add/remover mas no da pra marcar!
[06:23] <DaSkreech> ryan_: ok so do one at a time till you know which one works
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !kubuntu-es
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Then I'll tell you how to set all the files with that
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !es
[06:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !es
[06:23] <ryan_> i network with samba and i sign in to the linux computer with my normal log on
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:23] <morcego> rafael:
[06:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> rafael, kcontrol -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts
[06:24] <DaSkreech> !es > morcego
[06:26] <ryan_> DaSkreech: is smb://username:password@ipadress/shared file directory
[06:26] <DaSkreech> ryan_: This is from the XBox Drive I take it?
[06:26] <ryan_> yeah
[06:27] <ryan_> DaSkreech:wate no its from the xbox to the computer
[06:27] <actinic> keyboard shortcuts:  found in kcontrol > regional & accessibility
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Right From the Xbox
[06:27] <DaSkreech> in advanced do you have R checked?
[06:27] <ryan_> ok then yeah
[06:28] <DaSkreech> You should't need W or X checked
[06:28] <DaSkreech> but the three levels of R should be checked
[06:28] <ryan_> ok
[06:28] <DaSkreech> In some file you haven't done yet of course :)
[06:28] <DaSkreech> I'm asking if that's true
[06:29] <rich_mon> gentoo wiki doesn't specifically lay it out for Mx518 mouse  :(
[06:29] <ryan_> its every file even the avi files that i dont have permission
[06:29] <ryan_> im wanting to change them all at once if possible
[06:30] <DemonThing`> rich_mon: I think it's the same as for the 510
[06:30] <DaSkreech> ryan_: Right I'm asking on a file that you currently can't stream are the checkmarks under R on or off?
[06:30] <ryan_> of
[06:30] <ryan_> off*
[06:30] <DemonThing`> turn them on then :P
[06:30] <rich_mon> the part im missing is for the use of the middle button, as when i push it'
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Ok turn them on and then try again
[06:31] <ryan_> DemonThing theres like 200 files
[06:31] <DaSkreech> ryan_: Just do one file and if it works I'll show you how to do that
[06:31] <DemonThing> chmod a+r *
[06:31] <rich_mon> DemonThing:  i  have i mostly configured, all except the middle button push
[06:31] <ryan_> once i turn them on i can streem
[06:32] <DaSkreech> ryan_: Schweet Ok on a konsole browse to ~/Drives
[06:32] <rich_mon> DemonThing:   does Ubuntu recognize back button when navigating through folders?
[06:32] <DemonThing> find -type f | xargs chmod a+r
[06:32] <DaSkreech> and type chmod +r -R 80GB/
[06:32] <DemonThing> rich_mon: don't know, I don't use ubuntu on my desktop with the 518
[06:33] <rich_mon> k
[06:33] <ryan_> ok
[06:33] <ryan_> done
[06:33] <DaSkreech> ryan_: Or right clikc the 80GB folder
[06:33] <morcego> how to install mp3 codec on Kubuntu?
[06:33] <rich_mon> easy ubuntu
[06:33] <actinic> !mp3
[06:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:33] <DaSkreech> -> properties -> permissions -> check change all sub folders and files -> advanced permissions -> put on the checkmarks -> ok
[06:34] <DaSkreech> morcego: install libxine-extracodecs from the multiverse repository
[06:34] <DemonThing> Is there a keyboard shortcut for changing tabs in Konqueror besides ctrl+pageup and pagedown?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> morcego: If you need spanish help type /join #kubuntu-es
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+[ and Ctrl + ] 
[06:34] <morcego> how to install in APT?
[06:34] <ryan_> DaSkreech: thanks you have been a big help
[06:35] <DemonThing> DaSkreech: unfortunately that's not working :/
[06:35] <actinic> and if you need help in pig latin type /join #oink
[06:35] <morcego> the lbxine-extracodecs
[06:35] <DaSkreech> morcego: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:35] <DaSkreech> DemonThing: What's not working?
[06:35] <DemonThing> oh well, I'll just use ctrl+pageup/down :)
[06:35] <DemonThing> ctrl+[ and ctrl+]  in Konqueror
[06:35] <DaSkreech> morcego: sudo  apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:35] <DaSkreech>  :)
[06:35] <DemonThing> oh well
[06:35] <DemonThing> :)
[06:35] <dein> do you guys happen to know where my keys are?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> !keys
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <dein> !keys
[06:36] <DemonThing> or I can just go under Configure Shortcuts and add alt-left and alt-right
[06:36] <DemonThing> :P
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <DemonThing> ah ctrl+, and ctrl+. do it too
[06:36] <DemonThing> handy :)
[06:36] <dein> the ubuntu linux community is supposed to be supportive
[06:36] <dein> this really makes me mad
[06:36] <dein> i quit linux now
[06:36] <DaSkreech> dein: WHich keys?
[06:37] <dein> car keys
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Ah try in the car
[06:37] <DaSkreech> and it's spelt kar :)
[06:37] <actinic> hey, they're in your trowsers next to your girlfriend
[06:37] <actinic> she took them from you ... you were too drunk
[06:37] <dein> only if the car is made by kde
[06:37] <DaSkreech> actinic: Please read teh COC
[06:38] <Parkotron> Hello all. I'm looking for an email client that will let me redirect (not forward) an entire mail account to another address. Any ideas?
[06:38] <actinic> !COC
[06:38] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:38] <actinic> !DOA
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Parkotron: have you tried kmail?
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DOA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Parkotron> DaSkreech: KMail will forward individual messages but not more than one at a time.
[06:39] <actinic> i read it, don't like it
[06:39] <Parkotron> I've tried Thunderbird, KMail, and Evolution but none of them will do it.
[06:39] <DaSkreech> dein: It's not a KDE kar?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Parkotron: Which one do you like the best?
[06:40] <warpzone> wow, switched to KDE a little over a week ago and after some initial frustration its pretty impressive
[06:40] <DaSkreech> warpzone: tried Alt+Space ?
[06:41] <Parkotron> DaSkreech: I was a long time Thunderbird user (ie before I came to KDE) but GMail has replaced my need for an email client.
[06:41] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:41] <dein> no
[06:41] <flaccid> Opera will replace your need for Gmail :p
[06:41] <DaSkreech> dein: Hmm maybe #ubuntu can help then :)
[06:41] <warpzone> DaSkreech: whoa
[06:42] <dein> open source cars would be bad, because then people could start it without your password
[06:42] <actinic> Opera's fantastic
[06:42] <DaSkreech> ha ha ha
[06:42] <DaSkreech> dein: Eh?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> people would want their cars to autostart...
[06:42] <flaccid> dein: lol. cept there is encryption
[06:42] <warpzone> question though, is there a way to use the Windows key on a keyboard for shortcuts? Every time I assign it to something it switches back
[06:43] <dein> ok bye
[06:43] <dein> im hungry
[06:43] <Parkotron> My situation is that my girlfriend just graduated from university and consequently her university email is about to expire. She'd like to move all the mail to her new account, but forwarding it is ugly: the dates and from address are all changed. Lots of clients let you forward one email at a time but I need to move the entire mailbox.
[06:44] <DaSkreech> warpzone: I just use it for amarok
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Parkotron: well maybe you want to ask in #thunderbird
[06:44] <Parkotron> warpzone: Try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120001
[06:45] <DaSkreech>  how urgent is this?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> print them all out. :P
[06:45] <Parkotron> DaSkreech: I'm guessing I'll have to resort to some kind of command line client that handles batch jobs.
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Parkotron: Possibly but you can join irc.mozilla.org and #thunderbird and ask there
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Possibly tomorrow :) they should be able to give you a solution since they probably have been asked that more than once
[06:46] <Parkotron> DaSkreech: The account is going to expire immediately, but my girlfriend's been on my back for a while now.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> i recall that ubuntu hacks book mentioned using thunderbird under windows - to convert the email to its format.. then copying THAT converted data to the linux system
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Parkotron: IE tonight?
[06:47] <Parkotron> DaSkreech: This week would be soon enough, I'd wager.
[06:47] <warpzone> Parkotron: ooo very helpful thanks
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Well do you know how to add irc.mozilla.org to your IRC client?
[06:48] <Parkotron> Dr_Willis: That's a good approach. Unfortuately the the new account is webmail/POP so I can't just import mail from file.
[06:49] <Parkotron> DaSkreech: I just did. I'll head over there and see if someone can help me. Thanks.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> pop? cant ya download all the mail  from the pop server? or do you HAVE to use webmail to access them?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> I aint done much email in ages. :)
[06:49] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I am using Skim, and when my computer starts up, it says something about the DCOP not running.  (It actually is running.)  I don't exactly know what's happening.  Though I do have a link to the default scripts in my ~/.xinput.d/ directory.
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Parkotron: Doubt you'll get a huge flow of info tonight but ask around as early as you can tomorrow and you should get a few good pointers
[06:50] <Parkotron> Dr_Willis: I have IMAP/POP/webmail access to the old account, but I don't have IMAP access to the new account so I can't upload to it only download.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> i was just thinkign store the emails locally.. but heck.. what do i know. :P Its past my bedtime
[06:52] <pierreth> i cannot the users in the kde preferences, what should I do?
[06:52] <pierreth> i cannot see, i mean
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Where does it say dcop is not runing?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'users & groups' item/icon pierreth ?
[06:56] <pierreth> Dr_Willis: yes
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> odd
[06:56] <pierreth> Dr_Willis: I am in French
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Egads! you are in French!  . :P
[06:56] <pierreth> Dr_Willis: I was playing with users and groups
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> My brother law is from France. :)
[06:57] <pierreth> cool
[06:57] <Ertain> DaSkreech: it says it as my desktop is booting up.
[06:57] <pierreth> but i am from canada
[06:58] <pierreth> i changed the group of my user pierreth to users
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Did it start doing this after you did something?
[06:58] <pierreth> it was pierreth:pierreth before
[06:58] <pierreth> i deleted the group pierreth
[06:59] <leonrott> hi
[06:59] <DaSkreech> hello
[06:59] <leonrott> how can i probe my ftp??
[06:59] <pierreth> can i do a reinstall to repair?
[07:00] <warpzone> apt-get install -f i think
[07:00] <DaSkreech> With a probulator (obvious futurama joke)
[07:00] <DaSkreech> leonrott: What do you mean?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Bam!
[07:00] <Ertain> DaSkreech: I can't exactly remember what I did.  I did install Skim, of course, and looked on Kubuntu.com to figure out how to exactly make it work (since it wasn't working).  I think I changed something in my /etc/X11/xinput directory, but I can't remember.
[07:00] <warpzone> oops came in at the wrong time
[07:01] <leonrott> DaSkreech: i can see in my localhost but outside not
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: Ha aha ha :) Cheese it!
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Skim is installed by default
[07:02] <DaSkreech> leonrott: You can ftp into yourself but not from outside?
[07:02] <pierreth> Dr_Willis: no idea?
[07:03] <Ertain> How odd.  :-/  Anyway, at first, when I installed it, it didn't work.  I had to tweak the $LC_CTYPE variable.  Then I changed something else.  Again, I can't remember. :-(
[07:03] <leonrott> DaSkreech: yes
[07:03] <leonrott> DaSkreech: with apache and ftp it is the same i can see my pages but my friends not
[07:03] <DaSkreech> leonrott: What are you using to ftp?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> leonrott: Ah is your machine behind a router?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> pierreth,  i am reminded.. that  i cant recall ever using a group for myself. :P
[07:04] <leonrott> DaSkreech: Proftpd
[07:04] <warpzone> okay i cannot find khotkeys to save my life
[07:04] <DaSkreech> warpzone: try System settings
[07:04] <DaSkreech> It's under accesibilty
[07:04] <DaSkreech>  I don't know either
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> pierreth,  cant readd the group? or just make a new user. and copy/chown all the stuff over to the new users homedir. (sounds like a gimmicky fix)
[07:05] <warpzone> DaSkreech: you're right. hmmm slightly misleading. thanks!
[07:06] <pierreth> Dr_Willis: I can do what I want at the command line, but in kControl, I have this error: Impossible to load the module name 'Users and Group'
[07:08] <Parkotron> warpzone: It's been renamed Input Actions in KDE 3.5. It's under Regions and Accessibility
[07:10] <Parkotron> I think mutt can handle my mail problem. It took me a while to find it because it uses the term "bounce" instead of "redirect".
[07:10] <warpzone> Parkotron: roger doger, and thanks
[07:10] <leonrott> DaSkreech: humm how can i know that? is it probably my isp do that??
[07:10] <DaSkreech> leonrott: How do you connect to the internet?
[07:11] <leonrott> DaSkreech: humm by dsl
[07:12] <DaSkreech> leonrott: safe to say you are behind a router then :) DSL Modems act as routers
[07:15] <pierreth> how can i activate su?
[07:15] <pkarticle> you can type sudo before each command you want to execute as root
[07:16] <pierreth> pkarticle: yes i know
[07:16] <DaSkreech> pierreth: sudo -i but don't abuse it
[07:16] <pierreth> why su is not working?
[07:16] <we6jbo> Hi
[07:16] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:17] <pierreth> DaSkreech: OK, this is working
[07:17] <pkarticle> pierreth: you can start a root shell by clicking the session menu and then New Root Shell
[07:17] <DaSkreech> !ask
[07:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:17] <pkarticle> oh ok you got it
[07:17] <we6jbo> How do I play runescape on kubuntu?
[07:18] <pierreth> pkarticle: OK
[07:18] <DaSkreech> Ah.. umm
[07:18] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:18] <DaSkreech> whats runescape?
[07:18] <we6jbo> It's a game on the internet that needs java to play
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Ah ok It's a Java game?
[07:19] <we6jbo> I'm using firefox but it won't let me type in my user name and password
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Have you installed Java?
[07:20] <we6jbo> I play it on my other computer at school but I want to play now and it won't let me type in my user name and password
[07:20] <DaSkreech> leonrott: You are going to have to poke holes in your router
[07:20] <we6jbo> it's at www.runescape.com I don't know why it won't let me type in my user name and password
[07:20] <DaSkreech> leonrott: Either call your ISP or google for Port forwarding and your DSL Modem's model number
[07:21] <rich_mon> DBO:  back
[07:21] <hussam> any program like firestarter for kde?
[07:21] <DaSkreech> we6jbo: Have you installed Java?
[07:21] <we6jbo> and I'm using fire fox
[07:21] <we6jbo> yes
[07:22] <DaSkreech> hussam: How about firestarter? :)
[07:22] <DaSkreech> And you did the sudo update-alternatives ?
[07:22] <warpzone> whelp Im out for the night, thanks for the help guys n gals
[07:22] <leonrott> DaSkreech: thanks its very rare problem my friends have the same configuration and they runs apache :S
[07:22] <hussam> DaSkreech, that's a gnome one. I need a kde one
[07:22] <rich_mon> DBO:  still says Mesa at fglrxinfo
[07:23] <DaSkreech> leonrott: Well all I can tell you is that your IP doesn't seem to have anything running on Port 80 which is likely for a DSL modem
[07:23] <we6jbo> Holy cow it finally worked I don't know what I did but it works finally gee
[07:24] <DaSkreech> we6jbo: :-) Glad to hear
[07:24] <protostar_> hello
[07:24] <leonrott> DaSkreech: humm i'll go to search about that thanks DaSkreech
[07:24] <protostar_> anyone know how to change themes in Kubuntu?
[07:24] <protostar_> cause I can't find the option to do so
[07:24] <DaSkreech> leonrott: Sure no problem
[07:24] <DaSkreech> protostar_: Try in System Settings
[07:24] <protostar_> I'm there
[07:25] <protostar_> I see where to change the KDM theme
[07:25] <protostar_> but not the system theme
[07:27] <DaSkreech> protostar_: Well ... I don't know that KDE has a one button theme like Gnome
[07:27] <protostar_> I remember doing it in Suse
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Well you have Kthemes I]  admit
[07:30] <protostar_> ok
[07:30] <protostar_> thx for your help
[07:46] <hussam> DaSkreech, firestarter won't run on edgy
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Ah that sucketh
[07:52] <Healot> You arson :)
[07:53] <nixternal> [00:46:31]  <hussam> DaSkreech, firestarter won't run on edgy
[07:53] <nixternal> it ran for me just this week
[07:53] <nixternal> i had to demo a system, and i only had wireless on my lappy
[07:53] <nixternal> so i created a quick crossover cable
[07:53] <nixternal> and ran firestarter, and it saved the day ;)
[07:54] <nixternal> and now
[08:02] <|lostbyte|> How to i check for updates from cli ?
[08:02] <osiris> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:03] <|lostbyte|> osiris, huh ? i was looking forward to see if there is an update for a specific version.
[08:04] <osiris> ah
[08:04] <DaSkreech> |lostbyte|: Or a specific package?
[08:05] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, yes, want to query
[08:05] <osiris> apt-cache search ?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> I think it's apt-cache policy
[08:06] <DaSkreech> It should show the installed version and the candidate version which will be higher if there is a newer version
[08:07] <dragos> yo
[08:07] <dragos> jest ktos
[08:07] <dragos> ?
[08:08] <dragos> yo
[08:08] <dragos> jest ktos?
[08:08] <dragos> yo
[08:08] <dragos> deb
[08:08] <draik> anyone here having issues with frostwire not loading?
[08:08] <dragos> i have problrem
[08:08] <osiris> do you have java ?
[08:08] <dragos> problem somone help me ?
[08:09] <osiris> draik,
[08:09] <draik> osiris,
[08:09] <dragos> give me comend to install my nividia
[08:09] <dragos> this file name
[08:09] <dragos> nvidia-installer.log
[08:09] <dragos> how to install this i don't know
[08:09] <dragos> ?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> dragos: Which language?
[08:09] <dragos> me?
[08:09] <osiris> dragos, thats a log file.  you dont install those
[08:10] <dragos> somobody
[08:10] <dragos> know where i
[08:10] <dragos> search
[08:10] <dragos> file to my
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, policy, yeah it will hard.. Only if it was a one liner
[08:10] <dragos> nvidia?
[08:10] <dragos> i need to instal graphic
[08:10] <osiris> stop pasting 1 or 2 words at a time Dragnslcr
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> be*
[08:10] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[08:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:10] <osiris> er
[08:10] <osiris> dragos,
[08:10] <thoreauputic> !enter
[08:10] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:10] <DaSkreech> dragos: Yes you :)
[08:11] <dragos> where i can take this file nvidia? ;> say plx i need install graphic
[08:11] <DaSkreech> French?
[08:11] <draik> osiris, you were saying?
[08:11] <draik> yes I do
[08:11] <DaSkreech> dragos: Which language do you speak we can send you to the right people to ask
[08:11] <osiris> try running frostwire from the CLI, is there an error ?
[08:12] <draik> let me check
[08:12] <dragos> me are poland
[08:12] <DaSkreech> !pl
[08:12] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:12] <DaSkreech> I think >_<
[08:12] <draik> osiris, You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[08:13] <DaSkreech> dragos: try /join #ubuntu-pl
[08:14] <osiris> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre   draik
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Though that's not a lot of folks in there :(
[08:14] <draik> It's installed, latest version
[08:14] <osiris> hmm
[08:14] <dragos> root@dragos-desktop:~# apt-get install "nvidia-installer.log"
[08:14] <dragos> Czytanie list pakietw... Gotowe
[08:14] <dragos> Budowanie drzewa zalenoci... Gotowe
[08:14] <dragos> E: Nie udao si odnale pakietu nvidia-installer.log
[08:14] <dragos> error
[08:14] <dragos> can find file pakiets invifdia-installer.
[08:14] <Healot> holy polska!
[08:15] <dragos> some help me ;/
[08:15] <osiris> draik, i guess i uninstalled it
[08:15] <draik> osiris, java version "1.4.2"
[08:15] <osiris> gimme a sec
[08:15] <draik> ok
[08:15] <osiris> !frostwire > osiris
[08:15] <DaSkreech> dragos: type /join #ubuntu-pl
[08:15] <DaSkreech> !pl
[08:15] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:16] <DaSkreech> dragos: If you can't get them today try tomorrow. They can help
[08:16] <DaSkreech> !nvidia > dragos
[08:17] <osiris> quick question, is there a -U option (update) for dpkg ? or does dpkg -i update if already installed ?
[08:18] <osiris> im used to rpm's
[08:18] <flaccid> osiris: apt-get update to update list of updates
[08:18] <flaccid> apt-get upgrade to fetch updates from update list
[08:18] <osiris> nope
[08:18] <flaccid> nope?
[08:18] <osiris> looking to install a package by hand, and update if its already installed
[08:19] <flaccid> oh
[08:19] <osiris> via dpkg
[08:19] <flaccid> sorry
[08:19] <flaccid> dpkg -i is update as well
[08:19] <draik> dpkg -i should update it if installing a newer version, AFAIK
[08:19] <flaccid> i mean is upgrade if the package is installed already
[08:19] <osiris> rpm had a -I and a -U so i wondered
[08:19] <flaccid> yeah no -U in dpkg, just -i
[08:19] <draik> will only install if newer version too, I think
[08:20] <osiris> thx.  like i said.  comming from many years of rpm's
[08:20] <flaccid> yeah
[08:20] <flaccid> i asked the same question in here when i switched :)
[08:21] <osiris> loads fine here
[08:21] <|lostbyte|> flaccid, -i updates it, automatically. although there is a --update-avail option too.
[08:22] <osiris> draik, must be a java issue on yer end, or try deleting any .files it may have in ~/ and see if that helps
[08:22] <osiris> i got the deb from their site, and it works fine
[08:22] <flaccid> yeah thats what i said
[08:22] <yanis> how can I change that ugly red picture that is displayed when I block a pic from a specific url in Konqueror?
[08:22] <draik> ok
[08:23] <osiris> yanis, use firefox with ad-block
[08:23] <osiris> =)
[08:23] <yanis> but I like konqueror
[08:24] <|lostbyte|> There is adblock for konqueror too.
[08:25] <|lostbyte|> adn there is no red picture.
[08:27] <yanis> where can I find it?
[08:27] <draik> It's kinda weird that I go to java.com and it tells me that I have the latest version of java
[08:30] <dragos> i cant find nvidia for my computer
[08:30] <dragos> i have nvidia riva tnt 32mb
[08:34] <osiris> draik, but do you have jre 1.4.2 (i think ? ) or higher ?
[08:34] <osiris> !java > osiris
[08:35] <draik> I am going through 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and I'm selecting...
[08:35] <draik> choosing                /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[08:35] <DaSkreech> dragos: The drivers you have should be good then
[08:36] <draik> Was           /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> dragos, i think you need the.. nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:36] <dragos> ye i can't find this
[08:36] <dragos> in the
[08:36] <dragos> web
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> dragos, adept has it.
[08:36] <osiris> dragos, try more than one word a line, and have a little patience
[08:37] <dragos> ok i see in trhe web i write here when i find or something
[08:37] <osiris> !nvidia > dragos
[08:38] <osiris> follow those instructions that i just sent to you dragos
[08:38] <draik> osirs, that did the trick
[08:38] <draik> Thank you for your help
[08:38] <draik> much appreciated
[08:38] <osiris> sure
[08:38] <osiris> get yer frosty on
[08:38] <draik> you know it :p
[08:39] <draik> Stay Frosty
[08:42] <osiris> any easy way other than top to see whats using so much bloody ram ?
[08:46] <Healot> free
[08:46] <royal> hi um for a school project i'm trying to install kubuntu on a linux machine. is it possible in any way shape or form to put the ability to play sound back in?
[08:46] <thoreauputic> osiris: it's pretty normal for Linux to use a lot of RAM - it tries to use it in preference to swap at all times
[08:47] <thoreauputic> osiris: the second line of  free -m i s more relevant
[08:47] <thoreauputic> *is
[08:48] <royal> um or would I have to put in a completely different motherboard?
[08:51] <royal> my gateway is a 9310S
[08:52] <royal> ... no one has an answer?
[08:53] <flaccid> whats wrong with the sound, royal?
[08:53] <royal> not playing :P
[08:54] <flaccid> it was working before?
[08:54] <flaccid> !sound
[08:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:55] <flaccid> double clicking on the volume control, where is this?
[08:56] <Healot> for kubuntu - Kmix;somewhere in the KDE Menu
[08:59] <federico> hello all! can anybody please help me with a wireless card installation?
[08:59] <flaccid> but you can't double click on a menu item
[08:59] <flaccid> and there is no file -> change device in kmix
[08:59] <federico> i searched https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported but no suggestions are available for my cisco aironet 350.. :(
[09:00] <royal> oh. so board audio drivers isn't the issue
[09:01] <federico> please...:(
[09:02] <AegeanLinux> HI ALLL!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:02] <dragos> hiho
[09:02] <AegeanLinux> where does Kubuntu store it's global File Associations ?
[09:02] <dragos> who now where i get nvidia install i need to my coimputer
[09:03] <AegeanLinux> ! nvidia
[09:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:03] <AegeanLinux> ! hello
[09:03] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[09:03] <AegeanLinux> !p0rn
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p0rn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <AegeanLinux> !gamba
[09:03] <AegeanLinux> !gambas
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <ubotu> gambas: Visual development environment for the Gambas programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13-2 (dapper), package size 964 kB, installed size 2256 kB
[09:04] <AegeanLinux> does anyone know where Kubuntu stores it's global File Associations ?
[09:06] <dragos>  nvidia-glx-
[09:06] <royal> ubuto: where is alsa?
[09:06] <dragos> where i find this  file?
[09:06] <AegeanLinux> !alsa
[09:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:06] <AegeanLinux> !alsa-libs
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsa-libs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <flaccid> AegeanLinux: you can't double click on volume control, and there is no file -> change device
[09:07] <dragos> who have maybe link to nvidia-glx
[09:07] <dragos> to download
[09:08] <AegeanLinux> dragos: heard of this thing called "google" by anychance ?
[09:08] <dragos> i can't find i check ;/
[09:08] <dragos> in the goodle
[09:08] <dragos> google
[09:13] <Healot> !nv
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <Healot> !info ati
[09:13] <ubotu> Package ati does not exist in any distro I know
[09:14] <Healot> !ati
[09:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:19] <ryanr> i am using kate on ubuntu and I am trying to get the "Warn about file being modified" to work, but it doesnt seem to notify me, just curious if I need some other library
[09:23] <dein|non-oss> hey guys
[09:23] <AegeanLinux> hoe dein
[09:23] <dein> what do you think of a laptop i just purchased
[09:23] <AegeanLinux> It looks great!
[09:23] <dein> specs: Intel core duo 1.6ghz
[09:23] <AegeanLinux> (ie , how would I know !!! )
[09:24] <dein> 1 gb ram
[09:24] <dein> etc etc
[09:24] <dein> cost me 1k
[09:24] <dein> good deal or no?
[09:24] <royal> oh for a moment I thought you said core 2 duo
[09:25] <royal> dunno about core 1 duo though
[09:25] <dein> well, its already bought, hopefully it'll serve me well
[09:25] <royal> btw, it doesn't seem to be as so much a problem playing sound as so much a problem playing the mp3 put on it
[09:26] <dein> my desktop died last week, its power supply died and fried my motherboard among other things
[09:28] <royal> I repeat... I'm running kubuntu on a gateway 9310S. I've got it to play dings and dongs, but not the mp3 file I put on the computer.
[09:28] <royal> (this isn't the gateway i'm using btw, this is a homebuilt gaming machine)
[09:28] <dein> are you new to linux royal?
[09:28] <royal> yea
[09:28] <dein> ok
[09:28] <dein> go to adept
[09:28] <dein> or actually one sec
[09:29] <royal> on top of this i'm doing this as a class project.
[09:29] <grothesk> Hi!
[09:29] <royal> hi
[09:29] <dein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:29] <grothesk> How to I implement 'normalize' into k3b?
[09:29] <dein> read that guide, and it will get all your mp3, and other things working
[09:29] <federico> hello! Just 1 question:how can i get the MAC address of my wireless card? Please...
[09:30] <dein> they can't be installed by default thanks to legal issues
[09:30] <dein> federico: iwconfig
[09:30] <grothesk> There is no 'normalize' for ubuntu, but 'normalize-audio' which is not found by k3b...
[09:30] <dein> grothesk: i have no idea
[09:31] <dein> federico: enter that in the cli
[09:31] <federico> dein thanks, but it doesn't show me the mac... :(
[09:31] <royal> so does this sound converter package thing come with ubuntu or do I have to download it?
[09:31] <wry> hey guys
[09:32] <dein> dont do sound converter
[09:32] <federico> dein it says: access point invalid
[09:32] <wry> havin some probs with adept
[09:32] <dein> one sec federico
[09:33] <royal> what then dein?
[09:33] <grothesk> federico: ifconfig
[09:33] <federico> dein ok it is a pcmcia card, i already installled the driver
[09:33] <dein> one sec ill give you instructions
[09:34] <dein> first go into adept
[09:34] <wry> when I try and open adept it tells me that another process is using the database.
[09:34] <royal> adept is where now?
[09:34] <dein> try sudo apt-get install wry
[09:34] <dein> under system
[09:34] <royal> ok
[09:34] <federico> dein thanks
[09:35] <royal> (btw that thing isn't connected to the internet)
[09:35] <royal> (just so you know)
[09:35] <dein> you're gonna need to get it connected
[09:35] <royal> hmm...
[09:35] <dein> but in the meantime
[09:36] <dein> go to the view menu in adept
[09:36] <royal> ok.
[09:36] <dein> and choose manage repositories
[09:36] <wry> dein---> I don't have anything in particular i wants to get and so would rather browse in the gui
[09:37] <dein> wry still try downloading something in apt-get, it will tell you what to do if the problem persists
[09:37] <dein> do sudo apt-get install libtorrent
[09:37] <wry> cheers
[09:38] <dein> see where it says ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' royal?
[09:38] <royal> for me or wry?
[09:38] <royal> oh
[09:38] <dein> the two lines that start with deb, right click them and choose enable
[09:39] <royal> got it
[09:39] <dein> then click the components section of those lines and make it say 'universe multivers'
[09:39] <dein> 'universe multiverse'
[09:40] <wry> dein--> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:40] <dein> run that command it just told you to run wry
[09:40] <dein> should fix your problem
[09:41] <wry> cool, just thought i might need to find somethin in specific to run it on
[09:41] <dein> nah
[09:41] <dein> tell me if that fixes it
[09:41] <dein> after you're done editing those lines royal tell me
[09:42] <royal> alright i'm done
[09:42] <dein> ok, next section there is a line that reads "## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'"
[09:43] <dein> enable the two lines
[09:43] <dein> then make sure their components section reads 'main restricted universe multiverse '
[09:44] <dein> click apply and then close
[09:45] <wry> can anyone suggest a good email client?
[09:45] <dein> tell me when you're done
[09:45] <dein> kmail is what i use
[09:45] <wry> Kontact keeps tripping over itself
[09:45] <dein> what kde version are you using?
[09:46] <royal> ok wait the two lines below the uncomment the following lines etc only have to be "main restricted universe multiverse" or all 4 lines?
[09:46] <dein> only the two lines below
[09:46] <wry> dein--> humour me please... how do i check the version?
[09:47] <dein> you using konversation as your irc client wry?
[09:47] <wry> absolutely
[09:47] <dein> if so go to help->about kde
[09:47] <royal> ok got it
[09:47] <dein> that will tell you what version you're running
[09:47] <wry> 3.5.2
[09:48] <dein> ok royal, when you get your computer connected to the internet go to konsole
[09:48] <dein> its under the system menu
[09:48] <dein> and type in "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[09:50] <dein> or "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs mplayer mozilla-mplayer" if you want to enable embedded video in firefox as well
[09:50] <dein> wry: you might wanna upgrade to 3.5.3 or 3.5.4
[09:51] <Healot> a total of 17MB download
[09:51] <Goliath23> hi
[09:51] <dein> they're much faster
[09:51] <wry> cheers
[09:51] <dein> hi
[09:51] <Goliath23> it seems that after the update to 3.5.4, the konqueror file previews don't work anymore... I have the arts-codecs installed... what else can I do?
[09:52] <dein> apt-get install kdemultimedia goliath23
[09:52] <Goliath23> sorry, libarts-xine I meant...
[09:52] <halfbloodprince> hey, people! my kubuntu iso download is 100% done! yay!
[09:52] <dein> lol congrats
[09:52] <halfbloodprince> any tips before i burn the cd and go ahead with the install?
[09:52] <Goliath23> dein: I'm not sure I want all that stuff in kdemultimedia... do you know which might be the missing package?
[09:53] <Healot> !w32codecs
[09:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <dein> no i'm afraid not goliath, all i know is that kdemultimedia enabled file previews for video for me
[09:53] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: you there?
[09:53] <Goliath23> I got w32 codecs installed
[09:53] <wry> dein---> where will I find them?
[09:54] <Goliath23> btw. It doesn't show previews for mpeg1 too.
[09:54] <Healot> do you know where the codecs  are located, Goliath23?
[09:54] <dein> you have to add a repository
[09:54] <Healot> btw, you need libxine-extracodecs first
[09:54] <halfbloodprince> any tips before i install?
[09:54] <Goliath23> Healot: adept tells me it installed them in /usr/lib/codecs (the w32codecs) ... I'm sure I have extracodecs as well, mom
[09:55] <dein> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[09:55] <dein> thats the one for kde 3.5.4
[09:55] <Goliath23> extracodecs are installed as well!
[09:56] <dein> 3.5.3 is the same except replace "kde-354" with "kde-353"
[09:56] <dein> halfbloodprince, are you new to linux?
[09:56] <Healot> great, thanks
[09:56] <Goliath23> Healot: I take a look at the dependencies and find that package
[09:57] <halfbloodprince> dein: i'm not new to linux per se.. i've uses SuSe linux earlier for a short period.. and i wasn't very happy with suse, so i uninstalled it
[09:57] <halfbloodprince> i've used*
[09:57] <halfbloodprince> this is the first time i'm trying out kubuntu.. it seems to be really easy and promising
[09:57] <dein> well let me ask you a couple of questions quick ok?
[09:58] <halfbloodprince> sure
[09:58] <dein> what kind of network connection are you using for the internet
[09:58] <dein> ethernet or wireless
[09:58] <halfbloodprince> cable internet
[09:58] <halfbloodprince> ethernet
[09:58] <dein> ok
[09:58] <halfbloodprince> that's cool right?
[09:59] <dein> did your networking work out of the box on suse?
[09:59] <halfbloodprince> dein: it worked once i found the network settings panel hidden deep within yast
[09:59] <halfbloodprince> and once i entered the correct ip address, etc, it worked
[09:59] <dein> hmm, if it was just a configuration issue you should be fine
[10:00] <halfbloodprince> i know that it's easier in kubuntu, coz the network settings box is right there
[10:00] <Goliath23> lol? kdemultimedia comes with lots of -dev packages?
[10:00] <dein> do you know what video card you are using?
[10:00] <halfbloodprince> yeah.. an integrated intel video card
[10:00] <dein> ok you should have 3d accel automatically then
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> Where are the firefox temperory files ?
[10:00] <halfbloodprince> yeah
[10:01] <Healot> Goliath23: could you pastebin the file list of w32codecs...
[10:01] <dein> everything else should work fine then
[10:01] <dein> come back when you've got installed and ill give you a guide for how to enable mp3 and the other restricted formats
[10:01] <halfbloodprince> okay, i'm burning the iso using nero.. i'm going to select the 'burn image to disc' option.. is that correct?
[10:02] <dein> yes
[10:02] <halfbloodprince> coz there's another option for burn bootable disc
[10:02] <halfbloodprince> i'm doing the image to disc thing
[10:02] <Healot> halfbloodprince: yes thats the way...
[10:02] <dein> the image is already bootable
[10:03] <wry> dein---> added the repository, but a search of kde just brings up zillions of apps (of course)
[10:03] <halfbloodprince> so once i boot using kubuntu.. it first 'loads' the live cd, right?
[10:03] <Goliath23> Healot: it's not that I have a problem with a certain file type. I can even play all sorts of wmv files. but konqueror just refuses to even try to show previews in icon mode
[10:04] <dein> wry: do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:04] <dein> then do ctrl+alt+backspace to reset your xserver
[10:05] <dein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:05] <Healot> Goliath23: don't worry about that... as long as you can play it with other player
[10:05] <dein> follow that guide halfblood for adding repositories
[10:05] <halfbloodprince> cool, thanks
[10:05] <halfbloodprince> the cd's burning now
[10:06] <Goliath23> Healot: don't tell me not to worry about video previews. I liked them and I wont them back (they worked before) :)
[10:06] <dein> then you can get mp3 support and other special stuff
[10:06] <halfbloodprince> once i boot using the cd, it lods the live cd right?
[10:06] <dein> yes
[10:06] <dein> and there will be an icon on the desktop that you can choose to install with
[10:06] <halfbloodprince> cool
[10:06] <halfbloodprince> what if the live cd doesn't detect my hardware correctly
[10:06] <dein> then you go play on the internet while kubuntu installs
[10:07] <dein> then you should probably wait a little longer before you get linux
[10:07] <halfbloodprince> haha
[10:07] <halfbloodprince> but it should detect it, right? i have faith in kubuntu :p if suse can detect it, kubuntu definitely can
[10:08] <dein> if suse detected it, kubuntu will too
[10:08] <halfbloodprince> cool
[10:08] <Healot> Goliath23: I guess you have to worry then
[10:08] <dein> oh, btw halfblood, kubuntu is much faster than suse
[10:08] <dein> except when running off the live-cd of course
[10:08] <halfbloodprince> suse was such a pain.. beginning with the 5 cd install
[10:09] <dein> i stopped with suse when its package manager went to hell in 10.1
[10:09] <riri> hbp use suse DVD
[10:09] <halfbloodprince> haha
[10:09] <riri> if i had the equivalent of firestarter working on suse i would stick to it
[10:10] <dein> plus it was so slow on this laptop (which has a 780mhz processor btw)
[10:10] <halfbloodprince> what's the default screen resolution that kubuntu installs with
[10:10] <dein> depends on your card
[10:10] <halfbloodprince> i currently use 1152x864.. would that be possible
[10:10] <riri> but know i am testing edgy kubuntu ... i start to like it :)
[10:10] <riri> lol
[10:10] <dein> and it's capabilities
[10:10] <halfbloodprince> well, i'm on windows right now, and i'm on 1152x864
[10:11] <halfbloodprince> so i guess the card supports it
[10:11] <riri> i guess no vista ?
[10:11] <dein> if your card is an intel one, and its running 1152x864, you can probably get that running easily on it
[10:11] <halfbloodprince> cool :)
[10:11] <dein> just go to system settings--> display
[10:11] <wry> dein---> not a happenin thing
[10:12] <riri> hbp you should try knot 2 edgy kubuntu
[10:12] <dein> hmm wry?
[10:12] <halfbloodprince> ??
[10:12] <riri> wry is why ?
[10:12] <wry> dein--> apt-get update stalled for quite a while
[10:12] <dein> dont do it halfblood, hes trying to get you to install beta software
[10:12] <wry> and then told me why
[10:12] <wry> ....
[10:13] <dein> try with adept?
[10:13] <dein> or is the repository down?
[10:13] <wry> Could not connect to kubuntu.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[10:13] <wry> Fetched 3B in 2m0s (0B/s)
[10:13] <wry> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could not connect to kubuntu.org:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[10:13] <wry> Reading package lists... Done
[10:13] <halfbloodprince> nah, i'm installing 6.06.1
[10:13] <wry> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:13] <wry> oops that was a bit rude... sorRy all
[10:13] <riri> edgy is not beta ... alpha
[10:14] <dein> lol
[10:14] <dein> hmmm'
[10:14] <riri> but knot 2 is installing as well as dapper
[10:14] <wry> short answer i spose is yup it's down!?
[10:14] <dein> hmmm
[10:14] <riri> and you got 3.5.4 installed at once
[10:14] <dein> double check your repository?
[10:15] <dein> make sure its in correctly
[10:15] <dein> when it's down it usually says 404 error
[10:15] <halfbloodprince> yay the cd's written
[10:15] <dein> well, get back on when you're on the live-cd
[10:16] <halfbloodprince> cool :)
[10:16] <halfbloodprince> wish me luck!
[10:16] <dein> the kubuntu disc should have konversation with kubuntu channel preloaded
[10:16] <dein> gl
[10:16] <halfbloodprince> thanks!
[10:16] <wry> dein--> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 is what's I gots
[10:17] <riri> dein : no problem with it ?
[10:17] <dein> i dont see a problem
[10:17] <riri> ok you are lucky
[10:17] <dein> try the 353 repository
[10:17] <wry> type deb distro dapper components main
[10:17] <wry> ok
[10:17] <riri> get automatix
[10:18] <riri> and it will do it all for you
[10:18] <riri> dapper automatix
[10:18] <riri> kubuntu
[10:18] <dein> hey riri
[10:18] <wry> dein   smae deal but endin in 3 yeah?
[10:18] <riri> hey dein
[10:18] <dein> ya, its basically the same but with a little more bugs
[10:19] <halfbloodprince> thanks you guys
[10:19] <halfbloodprince> see you in a bit :)
[10:19] <riri> merde
[10:19] <dein> riri you alpha loving psycho, install kde 4 on your system and tell me what its like
[10:19] <halfbloodprince> haha
[10:19] <riri> dein
[10:19] <halfbloodprince> see you dein
[10:19] <dein> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.1.php
[10:19] <dein> cya halfblood
[10:19] <riri> i already compiled kde4 on dapper
[10:19] <dein> really?
[10:19] <wry> dein--> but less than 3.5.2 yeah?
[10:19] <riri> yes
[10:19] <dein> gimme screenshots
[10:20] <dein> yes wry
[10:20] <riri> very easy with kde website explaination
[10:20] <riri> yest not much about desktop
[10:20] <dein> looks pretty much the same so far?
[10:20] <riri> dein i give you the link if you want to try
[10:20] <riri> yes
[10:20] <dein> nooooo
[10:21] <dein> i prefer a stable system
[10:21] <riri> but seems to be quicker
[10:21] <riri> lol
[10:21] <riri> i don't mind
[10:21] <dein> ill wait until the rc at most
[10:21] <riri> i like to be on the edge
[10:21] <riri> i guess you will wait a certain time ! :)
[10:22] <dein> yeah ; ;
[10:22] <riri> i install it on another pc (compiled it)
[10:22] <riri> but now i installed kubuntu edgy and compiled it... need a day about
[10:22] <dein> well, maybe ill try it on my new pc when it comes
[10:23] <dein> then ill wipe edgy and go back to dapper
[10:23] <riri> http://developer.kde.org/build/trunk.html
[10:24] <riri> this is the link for compiling kde4
[10:24] <dein> i can't believe that it's faster tho
[10:24] <wry> dein---> same deal
[10:24] <riri> it works fine for me and everytime
[10:24] <dein> kde 3.5.3 and .4 are fast already
[10:24] <dein> hmm wry
[10:24] <riri> dein why are you on edgy ?
[10:24] <dein> im not on edgy
[10:25] <wry> any other places to get it?
[10:25] <riri> ok
[10:25] <dein> yeah
[10:25] <dein> wry
[10:25] <riri> sorry i missunderstood
[10:25] <dein> send me your repository file
[10:25] <riri> i am on edgy
[10:26] <_rince_> mrgn
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> hi guys, got a strange issue here (asked on #ubuntu already, no help gotten though :/) - the log is here: http://wklej.org/id/14b07dd695 and I have absolutely NO idea whatsoever what to do with that. apart from a clean reinstall, but that's no fun, is it now? ;)
[10:26] <riri> but the edgy guy 's on irc must be sleeping or i disturb them with my questions ... they don"'t answer
[10:27] <dein> theres something wrong with your repos wry
[10:27] <wry> dein--> forgotten where it lives
[10:27] <dein> because i just did a update, and the server responds for me
[10:28] <dein> read me out the line you have as it is exactly?
[10:30] <dein> actually
[10:30] <dein> whats in your components section of your repos wry
[10:31] <wry> type: deb URL:http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 Distro:dapper  components main
[10:31] <wry> dein---> sorry was gettin carried away with an awsome jazz solo
[10:32] <dein> hmm
[10:32] <MattyMatt> in Disk & Filesystems - System Settings, I've lost the ability to modify drive settings since I manually added sth to fstab :(
[10:33] <wry> you've never heard ukulele 'til you've heard Jake Shimabukuro
[10:33] <dein> this is really weird wry
[10:34] <MattyMatt> and when I try to mount my card reader it says "can't find mount point"
[10:36] <dein> try this one deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu dapper main
[10:36] <MattyMatt> does a trailing lf in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab mess things up? or editing it as root?
[10:36] <dein> im not that good with fstab mattymatt, you may wanna wait till morning for better help (or night, depending on where you are)
[10:38] <dein> tell me if that works for you wry, i wanna go to bed
[10:39] <wry> W: GPG error: ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de dapper Release: The following signature                         s couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6                         D4DD4D5088
[10:39] <wry> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:40] <gogeta> you need the key
[10:40] <gogeta> easy enough
[10:40] <wry> so i ask the gate keeper??
[10:41] <wry> thanks for all your help and patience dein... goodnight
[10:41] <dein|sleepy> nite wry
[10:42] <wry> cheers again dein
[10:42] <gogeta> wget http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/key.gpg.asc
[10:42] <gogeta> gpg --import key.gpg.asc
[10:42] <gogeta> gpg --export --armor 521A9C7C | sudo apt-key add -
[10:42] <gogeta> replace that with your site
[10:43] <dein|zzzzz> hmm i never had to do that gogeta
[10:43] <dein|zzzzz> i wonder why ?.?
[10:43] <dein|zzzzz> oh well goodnight
[10:43] <gogeta> my pc i didnt another i did
[10:43] <gogeta> depends i guess
[10:44] <Vanique> o fook, mam zle piwsane
[10:44] <dein|zzzzz> oh well, have fun with the performance boost that is kde 3.5.4 wry
[10:44] <Vanique> whoops
[10:44] <Vanique> noth thach n
[10:44] <Vanique> wrong window, sorry
[10:44] <Vanique> ;] 
[10:44] <dein|zzzzz> lol ok
[10:45] <wry> absolutely dein
[10:49] <Emess> hey, just added a new item to my kmenu and when selecting an icon for it and clicking ok it jsut shows up blank, and after saving hte new item isnt there
[10:49] <wry> ok gogetta after havin made some toast i came back and put in the first two lines one at a time
[10:49] <wry> all good
[10:49] <wry> but i'm fuzzy as to where to put the ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu bit
[10:51] <wry> GOGETTA---> I'm lost!
[10:52] <gogeta> ?
[10:52] <gogeta> i gave you all the commands
[10:53] <Emess> meh never mind, restarted X and it was fine
[10:53] <wry> yeah got 'em down... but replace what with my site?
[10:53] <MattyMatt> grr. why is /media showing the contents of hdb1 when /dev/hdb1 is mounted at /media/hdb1 (according to fstab) ?
[10:54] <gogeta> yea
[10:54] <gogeta> the one you said wasenty getting a key
[10:54] <gogeta> wasent
[10:55] <wry> sorry man still seems a bit fuzzy?
[10:56] <wry> I've got
[10:56] <wry> wget http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/key.gpg.asc
[10:56] <wry> gpg --import key.gpg.asc
[10:56] <wry> gpg --export --armor 521A9C7C | sudo apt-key add -
[10:56] <wry> replace that with your site
[10:57] <wry> replace what?
[11:00] <wry> I appologise if I'm frustrating you gogetta, but theres obviously a miscomunication
[11:03] <wry> which wors on which line do I replace with ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu??
[11:03] <wry> words
[11:05] <massctrl> yowz, just installated kubuntu for the first time, pretty nifty, I have a problem though, I have an external screen connected to my laptop, the image is not centered, .... and I can't change of fiddle around with the resolution, ... quid?
[11:06] <wry> gogetta---> theres something i'm missing, what is it?
[11:10] <wry> Come on man I obviously need help please don't snub me
[11:11] <wry> I understand I have to replace something with ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu
[11:11] <wry> but you haven't made it clear what
[11:12] <wry> we on the same page?
[11:14] <wry> ok so I'm obviously talkin to m'self here yeah?
[11:15] <riri> go on kubuntu webpage
[11:15] <riri> wry
[11:16] <wry> to find the key?
[11:17] <wry> sorry guys but I need specifics riri----> what will I be looking for on the webpage?
[11:21] <riri> the repository for kde3.5.4
[11:21] <riri> aren't you looking for it ?
[11:22] <riri> and the key
[11:22] <riri> and you copy it in sources.list
[11:22] <riri> after sudo apt-get update
[11:23] <riri> and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:23] <riri> with -f if problems
[11:27] <wry> cheers riri
[11:40] <riri> cheers
[11:52] <gogeta> bo
[11:52] <gogeta> im not dead yet
[11:54] <rufet> hola a todos,hi to all
[11:55] <rufet> alguien habla castellano?
[12:05] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[12:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:05] <mikki> how do i play dvds in kubuntu?
[12:05] <Ash-Fox> !dvd
[12:05] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:20] <TheFuzzball> when I try to play a DVD it says: There is no Imput Plugin to Handle dvd:/ and then The Source Can't be read maybe you don't have engough rights for this or source doesn't contain data (Not disc in drive /dev/dvd)
[12:20] <TheFuzzball> but my system mounts /dev/scd0, and there is no /dev/dvd
[12:25] <godfather> G' day
[12:25] <godfather> everybody
[12:26] <godfather> Guys ...i'm a newbie...i've just installed Kubuntu on my laptop...i have a modem wireless but i can't set the connection
[12:27] <Vanique> why you can not ?
[12:27] <godfather> ok
[12:27] <godfather> kubuntu can see the net
[12:27] <godfather> but i can't connect
[12:28] <godfather> and surf on internet
[12:28] <godfather> anyone can help me
[12:29] <Vanique> maybe there are no wireless sites avaliable ?
[12:29] <Dannilion> Does anyone know what Error 2 when compiling something means?
[12:30] <godfather> ?
[12:30] <godfather> i don't understand
[12:31] <Stardog> anyone here know the correct command in terminal for cleaning up the foomaticdriver?
[12:31] <Stardog> something like that
[12:32] <godfather> i use wireless assistant
[12:33] <gsuveg> re
[12:33] <godfather> i set the wep
[12:33] <gsuveg> anyone know kickoff menu solution?
[12:33] <godfather> but i can't surf on internet
[12:35] <Stardog> anyone here know the correct command in terminal for cleaning up the foomaticdriver?
[12:37] <cox377> godfather: so you can see the wireless connect?
[12:38] <godfather> yes i can
[12:38] <cox377> when u enter your wep details
[12:38] <cox377> godfather: does it all go through fine, it doesnt kick up any errors?
[12:39] <godfather> no
[12:39] <godfather> the only message it gives to me is when i try to connect
[12:39] <godfather> it tells me that it's impossible to connect
[12:40] <cox377> godfather: Ummm
[12:40] <cox377> godfather: with an error?
[12:40] <cox377> godfather: can u access the router or is it just a problem with the internet
[12:41] <godfather> i don't think it is a probeleom of the router o in ternte
[12:41] <godfather> because
[12:41] <godfather> here there there are three laptops connected
[12:42] <cox377> godfather: so the problem comes when you try to connect to the wireless connect?
[12:42] <godfather> yes
[12:42] <cox377> how did u set up the wireless card on your laptop? is it usb or internal?
[12:43] <godfather> i have got an usb adapter but i don't know how it sees it
[12:43] <godfather> usb or internal
[12:44] <cox377> godfather: but when you scan for networks it fines the network in question
[12:44] <godfather> yes
[12:44] <godfather> it's strange but i finds it
[12:45] <mikki> need some  help with playing dvds
[12:46] <godfather> is there any procedure by command line
[12:46] <cox377> godfather: I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination but i spent days tryingt o get my wireless network working under kubuntu with a usb stick so it's amazing u got it working straight out of the box, try turnoing the wep off the router and see if u can connect that way then can work from there
[12:47] <godfather> i tried
[12:47] <godfather> but it didn't work
[12:48] <cox377> godfather: Ummm.. basically, the problem i had was that i got the wireless all working fine, and then, i think after an update it stopped working and i never managed to get it working again. i wonder if the problem u have is the same, i could get it to see the wireless network but it wouldnt connect
[12:48] <cox377> mikki: whats the prob?
[12:48] <cox377> godfather: can u take a screen dump and see if it's the same problem
[12:49] <mikki> its no program that wants to play dvd
[12:49] <cox377> have u tried VLC?
[12:50] <Stardog> mikki: have u installed dvd playback capability?
[12:50] <mikki> dont know
[12:50] <mikki> i get this with okle: /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected.
[12:51] <cox377> mikki:
[12:51] <cox377>   # apt-get update
[12:51] <cox377>    # apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2
[12:51] <cox377> mikki: can u not actually see the files?
[12:51] <Stardog> anyone here know the correct command in terminal for cleaning up the foomaticdriver?
[12:52] <mikki> i can se the files
[12:52] <cox377> try installing what i said
[12:55] <mikki> it said that i alredy got vlc, and the package libdvdcss2 dont exist
[12:55] <mikki> i have also tried vlc
[12:56] <mikki> vlc opens but dosnt play the dvd
[12:58] <Stardog> i think u have to install dvd playback cpability... should be easy to find this in adept really.... and use xine, mplayer or kaffeine
[12:58] <mikki> ok
[12:59] <mikki> ill try
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> I had a busy day, been demo'ing Kubuntu to people
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> people are rather stunned that its so pretty (helps that Ive given everything a once over)
[01:00] <mikki> do u know what its called ?
[01:01] <mikki> nothing on dvd playback
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> just do a search on dvd  should see something like libdvdcss2
[01:03] <z1pp3r> I've got an Asus P5LD2 motherboard with an onboard soundcard (Realtek ALC882). I also have an Audigy 4 PCI soundcard installed. However, i'm only able to get sound from my audigy card. I found a guide on the forums that told me to use OSS instead of ALSA, and i tried that - i still only get sound from my audigy card. Anyone got a hint on what to do?
[01:05] <arunkale> hey people
[01:05] <arunkale> this is halfbloodprince
[01:05] <arunkale> and i'm on kubuntu!!
[01:06] <arunkale> anyone around?
[01:06] <Mortice> yup.
[01:06] <arunkale> yay i'm on kubuntu :)
[01:06] <arunkale> i installed it properly
[01:06] <arunkale> and it was SO easy
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: you need to setup two sounds devices, I wouldnt bother though sound in Linux is still not quiet there yet
[01:07] <Mortice> nice. now get off whatever antisocial irc client you're using which doesn't respond to ctcp VERSION. :P
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: just stick with the sb card
[01:08] <lupine_85> 'lo
[01:08] <lupine_85> was it worth the d/l time? :)
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: the realtek stuff is rubbish
[01:09] <halfbloodprince> haha
[01:09] <halfbloodprince> konversation
[01:09] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: you around?
[01:09] <halfbloodprince> can someone please tell me how to change system fonts, etc?
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> halfbloodprince: kcontrol
[01:09] <lupine_85> yes :)
[01:09] <lupine_85> K->System Settings
[01:10] <lupine_85> enjoying it so far?
[01:10] <halfbloodprince> loving it
[01:10] <halfbloodprince> it was soo easy to install!
[01:10] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, i know i should.... but i'd really like to get it working, even if it's not an easy task. I'm always in for a challenge, especially when others have reported the very same soundcard (on the same motherboard even) to work, just by changing to OSS
[01:10] <halfbloodprince> totally worth the download time
[01:10] <Mortice> Konversation :(
[01:10] <halfbloodprince> and it detected my hardware like magic
[01:10] <halfbloodprince> even the live cd ran so fast!
[01:10] <Mortice> you a new linux convert then, halfbloodprince?
[01:10] <halfbloodprince> yeah, man
[01:10] <lupine_85> Konversation is good :)
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: you do realise OSS is total rubbish and really sux at sound management
[01:11] <Mortice> welcome to the madhouse :)
[01:11] <halfbloodprince> where exactly do i change fonts in system settings
[01:11] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, i do realise that. I also realise no sound sucks even more
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: the sb card should work fine under alsa
[01:11] <lupine_85> Erm, Appearance->Fonts
[01:12] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, hmm... Then the problem must be linux using my audigy instead of the realtek one? Is there any way to change this, or even better, get them both working at the same time?
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> halfbloodprince: I just open a terminal type kcontrol then go to Look->fonts  section
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: you have to define a whole pile of mixer options manually for that, ie what sounds do you want to go to what card ??
[01:13] <Mortice> muahaha.
[01:13] <gan|y|med> hi
[01:13] <Mortice> hi gan|y|med :)
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: you can have both cards but you cant send the same sounds to the both cards
[01:13] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, well, i want all sounds going to both cards. But if it's such a hassle, i could easily settle for being able to change between the two
[01:14] <halfbloodprince> yeah, got it
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: you wil have to define what sounds go were and to be honest why the hell would you do that
[01:14] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, bummer
[01:14] <halfbloodprince> how do i minimise everything to desktop?
[01:14] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, due to my setup... i have my amplifier connected to the realtek one, and my headphones (for games) connected to my audigy card
[01:14] <lupine_85> Linux_Galore: I use my second card for SIP
[01:15] <lupine_85> z1pp3r: you can generally define which app uses which card - it's often a bit of a pain to find the (per-application) settings though
[01:15] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: right click on your panel. Add to Panel > Special Button > Desktop Access
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: I have a similar rig but I have a small plantronics switch box that costs $8 that lets me select the headset or the speakers, way simpler
[01:16] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: then click the button that adds
[01:16] <z1pp3r> lupine_85, i have quite a few apps that don't allow me to select which soundcard i want to use... if i could change it globally, that would probably be for the best
[01:16] <halfbloodprince> Mortice: I added all the fonts I want, I've even changed them from the 'appearance' section.. but the changes aren't reflecting immediately.. do i need to give some kind of refresh command?
[01:17] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: I think the font changes only affect newly started applications
[01:17] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: easiest way would be to log out and log back in
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> lupine_85: http://www.plantronics.com/australia/aus/products/cat5180054/cat5180053/prod3090125;jsessionid=SS0JQ34DWVDBQCQBGNUCFEYKAEZWSIV0
[01:17] <lupine_85> z1pp3r: hardware is the solution :(
[01:17] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, i know i could to that, but i prefer not to. There must be a better solution (every device between the pc and the speakers just adds more noise anyway)
[01:17] <halfbloodprince> how do i log out and log back in?
[01:17] <lupine_85> arts "should" be able to do it, but it's a PoS
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> oops z1pp3r ^ link
[01:18] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: on the main menu, there's a logout button
[01:18] <halfbloodprince> okay, cool
[01:18] <halfbloodprince> thanks
[01:18] <halfbloodprince> brb
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: eeet its a switch it doesnt generate any noise
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> eeer*
[01:18] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, i appriciate you trying to help, but i dont want to do it that way
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: well wait a year and its will be fixed
[01:18] <z1pp3r> even a copper wire generate noise.
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: lol you been reading the idiot pages on the "Im a dumb assed audio freak who never set foot in a University who knows everything"
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> magazine
[01:19] <arunkale> i'm back
[01:20] <halfbloodprince> i'm back*
[01:20] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, normally i would accept that, but it doesnt mix too well with what i've been reading about people getting their realtek soundcard working without much trouble
[01:20] <Mortice> welcome. did that apply your font changes, halfbloodprince?
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: you only get noise in copper in this day and age if the cable is utter rubbish and you sitting next to a big assed live transfomer made by a dislexic monkey
[01:20] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, why the sudden hostility? And for your information, i set my foot in an university every day
[01:20] <halfbloodprince> Mortice: yes it did!
[01:21] <halfbloodprince> kubuntu is so brilliant!
[01:21] <halfbloodprince> i only have one complaint
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: because I hear the same wives tale rubbish all the time
[01:21] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, if you're unwilling or unable to help me, just say so or ignore me. Starting to talk trash just makes you stand out like an ignorant zealot
[01:21] <halfbloodprince> Mortice: In Kubuntu, my maximum screen resolution is 1024x768.. while in windows, i can go upto 1280 x 1024
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: lol no Im stating the truth, if you want to believe in consumer fantasy put out by magazines adertising over priced bits of copper go for it
[01:22] <z1pp3r> and for your information, even gold wires produce noise... it's just insignificant on most setups
[01:23] <z1pp3r> dude, wires are the reason i set my foot in the university every day, please dont lecture me about this stuff
[01:23] <halfbloodprince> Mortice?
[01:23] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: You should be able to change that in system settings somewhere. I think there's a display section. I can't tell for sure, because I'm not on a graphical login
[01:23] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: sorry, i'm trying to keep up with other channels too :)
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: lol they really have you sucked in dont they
[01:23] <halfbloodprince> Mortice: yeah, but my maximum screen res only goes upto 1024x768.. doesn't go above that
[01:24] <halfbloodprince> that's weird
[01:24] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, whatever. I've become too old for this kind of "discussion". Query yourself if you want to continue any further
[01:24] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: ok, let me have a look around the web for you.
[01:25] <halfbloodprince> Mortice: thanks :)
[01:25] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: ah, of course, i didn't need to. Open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:25] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[01:26] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: in there it gives you an option to choose which resolutions you want to make available.
[01:26] <halfbloodprince> that will fix it?
[01:26] <halfbloodprince> okay, cool
[01:26] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: then you'll need to hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart the X server, and you should then be able to use 1280*1024 as your resolution by changing it in system settings
[01:27] <halfbloodprince> Mortice: i typed the command
[01:27] <halfbloodprince> it gives me a bunch of options
[01:27] <halfbloodprince> which one do i select
[01:27] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: leave everything as it is, except for the screen where it asks about resolutions
[01:27] <halfbloodprince> oh it says 'need an action option'
[01:28] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: hold on a second, i'll go through the same process with you
[01:29] <halfbloodprince> dude please allow unregistered users to pm you :)
[01:29] <halfbloodprince> i forgot my password
[01:29] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: i have no idea how to do that on freenode. Any clues?
[01:30] <halfbloodprince> one sec
[01:31] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: it appears that it's not up to me. Seems you can only pm me if you're registered
[01:31] <halfbloodprince> no no
[01:31] <halfbloodprince> you can do this: /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[01:31] <Mortice> ah, thanks
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: if you "really" fussy about your audio you wouldnt be using a analogue sound card sitting on side a pc full of digital noise you would use a USB audio bridge and have the amp/decoder right next or "in" the speakers
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> s/on side/in side/
[01:33] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, who says i'm using AN anologue soundcard? Anyway, i do get your point, but as i said earlier, i have no interrest in discussing this any further
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: trust me with a realtek audio chipset cable noise is the least of your worries
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> bit like filling the grand canyon with a table spoon
[01:34] <z1pp3r> thats true. I've never argued that statement
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> so why worry about a switch box
[01:34] <godfather> it's time to cook something to put under teeth
[01:35] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, cus' i dont want to use it.
[01:36] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: as i said wait till next year sound management is next on the hit list of things to sort out
[01:36] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, and if you remember, i responded: Why should i wait a year, when several people have realtek ALC882 working right now?
[01:36] <Ash-Fox> !wifi
[01:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:37] <Ash-Fox> !fuse
[01:37] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: you can get it to work but its not going to have much functionality die to the nature of the chipset
[01:37] <Linux_Galore> due*
[01:39] <z1pp3r> thats fine
[01:39] <mohammed> hi
[01:39] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: I have a nice collection of SB Live PCI cards, the main reason being most built in chipsets on motherboards are rubbish and a SB Live card gives me 5.1 and the drivers are really bloody good in Linux and there are tons of options in the mixer
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: open your mixer window with your realtec chipset and there are hardly any optional adjustments, but one of my $10 SB live cards has about 30 options
[01:41] <josh_> question... what file do i modify to make a permanent change to my path variable?
[01:42] <z1pp3r> Linux_Galore, first of all, i have no kmix for my realtek soundcard and besides, i know all this. What's your point? Sigh, we're getting nowhere, lets just drop it
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: one of the reasons kmix has tabs in its setting is because when people used SB cards two years ago the adjusters would go off your screen there were so many so they then put the adjusters in three groups
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: kmix is in Kubuntu
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: its the mixer UI
[01:43] <z1pp3r> it's in kde really
[01:44] <z1pp3r> or for kde rather
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: pretty much a clone of the sound mixer in windows
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: yep open a terminal and type kmix
[01:44] <z1pp3r> ...
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: it sits in your taskbar
[01:44] <z1pp3r> i'm not a novice with linux, i know this
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: same as windows
[01:45] <z1pp3r> can we PLEASE just drop it already?
[01:45] <Linux_Galore> z1pp3r: did you select oss in kcontrol
[01:45] <z1pp3r> i'm sorry, but i dont have much motivation to keep talking to you. I do appriciate your inital help, but that has to be it.
[01:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> z1pp3r, i can't stay long, but what do you need help with?
[01:47] <Telroth_Plushie|> It looks like you're trying to get sounds drivers working, correct?
[01:48] <z1pp3r> Telroth_Plushie|, i barely have time now myself either, but thanks. I was trying to get my onboard realtek alc882 working, but i guess it's just faster to split the cable from my working audigy card
[01:49] <z1pp3r> even though it's an annoying way to do it due to the physical setup
[01:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> z1pp3r, there's a program called alsaconf if you can find out which package it's in
[01:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> kubuntu detected by two cards, but i've had to use alsaconf on other systems.
[01:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> it updates your module list and loads the appropriate modules, after which everything seemed to work
[01:50] <z1pp3r> yeah, i've tried alsaconfig as well, didnt do me much good i'm afraid
[01:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> you give it a try when you get a chance
[01:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> ah
[01:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> i'll see if i can help more when i'm back on (16-18 hours or so)
[01:51] <z1pp3r> thanks a lot, i'll try to be online there then
[01:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> ok
[01:57] <halfbloodprince> i enabled 1152x864 and 1280x1024 in xorg.. and it still doesn't show me those options in system settings -> display ... any ideas?
[01:57] <halfbloodprince> ?
[02:01] <cox377> halfbloodprince: are u trying to force a rezolution?
[02:03] <cjh> m
[02:03] <mohammed> gu please what the default root password in ubuntu ?
[02:04] <halfbloodprince> coz377: not trying to force one.. just enabled two
[02:04] <halfbloodprince> coz*
[02:04] <halfbloodprince> cox*
[02:05] <mohammed> reboot
[02:05] <halfbloodprince> ?
[02:05] <cjh> whats the deal with this "channel"? newbie and not sure why theres no chatter
[02:06] <halfbloodprince> can anyone help?
[02:06] <Healot> this is not a cht channel
[02:06] <Healot> imho
[02:06] <cjh> right. what is it then?
[02:07] <cjh> i read support but?
[02:07] <halfbloodprince> Healot, can you help?
[02:07] <Tm_T> mainly support channel, though some topic chatting is going on always
[02:08] <cjh> ok thanks
[02:08] <Healot> sure
[02:09] <cox377> halfbloodprince: mate, the way i got it to work is delete all the other rez's from xorg file or which ever one it's called
[02:09] <cjh> is there somewhere for general chat about linux? as said, im new to linux and my net connection is slow as so forums are not fun
[02:10] <Healot> the offtopic channel?
[02:10] <halfbloodprince> cox377: my problem is, in windows, i can use upto 1280x1024px resolution.. but in kubuntu it shows me a maximum resolution of 1024x768
[02:11] <Healot> you can laways chat here
[02:11] <cjh> which reminds me. anyone know why whenever i close my "network settings" app by clicking "ok" it stops my net connection?
[02:11] <halfbloodprince> i cant go above 1024x768 apparently
[02:11] <Healot> halfbloodprince: what monitor does X detect?
[02:12] <cjh> the net connection configuration is always reset when i close it
[02:12] <halfbloodprince> Healot: what do you mean?
[02:13] <cjh> i dont know how to get to offtopic channel??
[02:13] <Healot> what monitor does X see?
[02:13] <cox377> halfbloodprince: dude, delete all the other rez's available and just enter the 1280x1024
[02:13] <Healot> the monitor that it detected?
[02:14] <Tm_T> cox377: /join #channel  <- / points to command, "join" is desired command and #channel is target
[02:14] <Tm_T> whops
[02:14] <Tm_T> cjh: that was to you
[02:14] <cox377> Tm_T: lol what
[02:15] <cjh> thought so. thanks Tm_T
[02:15] <Tm_T> cox377: sorry, bad tabfilling with slooow ssh connection
[02:15] <cox377> lol
[02:15] <cox377> np
[02:15] <cox377> does anyone know a command to find all devices on a network?
[02:15] <Healot> ifconfig -a
[02:16] <halfbloodprince> Healot, where do I see that?
[02:17] <lupine_85> cox377: assuming they aren't Zeroconf-enabled, you'd need to nmap
[02:17] <Healot> in the xorg.conf section "Monitor"
[02:17] <cox377> lupine_85: just type nmap in cmd?
[02:17] <Healot> halfbloodprince: a better way is to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:17] <halfbloodprince> that's what I did Healot
[02:17] <cox377> Healot: that method got me no where
[02:17] <lupine_85> cox377: man nmap will give you the options you need
[02:17] <halfbloodprince> but it's not showing the ones that added
[02:18] <cox377> Healot: the only way i managed to get it to work was delete all other options
[02:18] <Healot> select the most suitable monitor that match you monitor
[02:18] <halfbloodprince> hey, lupine_85.. what's up?
[02:18] <lupine_85> not a lot :)
[02:18] <halfbloodprince> i'm on kubuntu :D
[02:18] <lupine_85> really ought to be revising
[02:19] <cjh> are there many channels around? im not having much luck
[02:20] <cjh> anywhere i can search channels?
[02:20] <Tm_T> cjh: sure, /list might help
[02:20] <Healot> type /list >> you'll get thousands
[02:21] <cjh> type it where by the way? sorry, like i said new! lol
[02:21] <Healot> type it anywhere, in channel, server wndow
[02:21] <Healot> press enter key or return for Mac :)
[02:23] <mrj> hello
[02:23] <mrj> i have had problems with broadcom wireless adapter
[02:23] <mrj> i just compiled the kernel 2.6.17.13
[02:23] <mrj> but now when i boot my wireless card is not loaded
[02:24] <mrj> i tried to modprobe bcm43xx and this module loads nice but my card is still not switched on
[02:24] <mrj> could somebody help me ?
[02:24] <halfbloodprince> for some reason my internet connection is accelerated while using kubuntu :D
[02:24] <halfbloodprince> connection speed, i mean
[02:26] <z1pp3r> mrj, i used ndiswrapper to get my bcm43xx working
[02:26] <z1pp3r> cant remember exactly how though =/
[02:26] <lupine_85> mrj: you need ther firmware as well
[02:26] <z1pp3r> works like a charm, unless i have to disable/re-enable it
[02:26] <mrj> z1pp3r: what is your bcm43xx modell, mine is BCM4310
[02:26] <lupine_85> http://www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx (the tar.gz) is one potential one
[02:27] <lupine_85> extract it into /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/2.6.17.13
[02:27] <mrj> lupine_85: i need the firmware even with the new copiled kernel ?
[02:27] <lupine_85> mrj: yes
[02:27] <z1pp3r> mrj, usch.... i'm sorry, i cant remember. It was on my laptop (i gave up linux on it, since acpi was impossible) which is an Asus A6R
[02:27] <mrj> ii wil ltry that
[02:27] <lupine_85> the firmware is proprietary, so you won't find it in the kernel
[02:28] <lupine_85> if ^ that firmware ^ doesn't work, then you'll need to use fwcutter to get some out of the windows drivers
[02:28] <mrj> z1pp3r: i have also problems with the ACPI
[02:28] <mrj> z1pp3r: but u can fix the DSDT broken ACPI table
[02:28] <z1pp3r> problems with acpi with linux on a laptop is obligatory :)
[02:29] <z1pp3r> mrj, even on an A6R? I read that was impossible
[02:29] <z1pp3r> on that specific model
[02:29] <lupine_85> ACPI--
[02:29] <mrj> for A6R am i not sure
[02:29] <mrj> i have read an article for my HP nx6325
[02:29] <mrj> ok guys i will try that with the firmware
[02:29] <mrj> so be right back :)
[02:30] <mrj> i mean - i'll be right back
[02:31] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: can you help me out with my resolution issue?
[02:32] <cjh> this is ridiculous with my supposed 14kbps driver connection
[02:32] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince: sorry I've got no idea
[02:32] <lupine_85> it "just worked" here
[02:33] <lupine_85> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core ?
[02:33] <lupine_85> oh, have you set up your video driver properly yet?
[02:34] <cjh> is there any alternatives to the linuxant driver for conexant modems? i cant find any
[02:34] <lupine_85> spca5xx-source ?
[02:34] <lupine_85> (just apt-caching it)
[02:35] <lupine_85> I know GlobeSpan Virata are vaguely supported
[02:35] <lupine_85> erm, no that's not useful
[02:37] <cjh> i may seem cheap but $20.00 is a bit much for me at the moment
[02:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[02:45] <willnapier> hi folks. I've realised I've been copying some stuff (including a 700Mb iso) onto a 1Gb usb pen drive without mounting first. Does this matter?
[02:45] <Mortice> if it's copying across, it's mounted. :)
[02:46] <willnapier> but it isn't listed when I do 'mount'
[02:46] <Mortice> willnapier: if the files are there when you take it out and then read it again, it must've been mounted when you copied to it :)
[02:47] <willnapier> Mortice: thanks. I'll check when it finishes copying the iso
[02:47] <willnapier> afk
[02:48] <mrj> hi
[02:48] <mrj> no good
[02:48] <mrj> i ve extracted the firmwaare in both directories
[02:48] <mrj> but
[02:49] <mrj> after reboot i have not seen my wireless card loaded
[02:52] <mrj> hepl
[02:52] <mrj> help
[02:52] <mrj> :)
[02:54] <gogeta> hi anyone deal with badram
[02:54] <mrj> people
[02:54] <mrj> i ve compiled my kernel
[02:54] <mrj> and
[02:55] <gogeta> trying to figure outweather my frends pc has a bad ram stick or a fryed prosser
[02:55] <mrj> now i cannot see my wireless
[02:56] <Tm_T> mrj: sounds like your kernel is missing something that wifi needs
[02:56] <mrj> it is possible
[02:56] <mrj> what could it be
[02:56] <mrj> ?
[02:56] <mrj> when i modprobe bcm43xx this goes well but i stil lcan not see my wireless
[02:56] <Tm_T> though I don't know, I trust to packaged kernels, never compiled myself
[02:57] <mrj> ifconfig eth0 up says: no such device
[02:57] <Tm_T> wireless is not eth0
[02:57] <Tm_T> iirc
[02:59] <alex_> ciao a tuttie le ragazze!!!!!c' qualche ragazza????
[02:59] <Tm_T> oh please
[02:59] <Tm_T> alex_: here, use english only
[02:59] <Tm_T> !it
[02:59] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:01] <GNUrante> salve
[03:02] <BluesKaj> Anyone familiar with tovid scrn settings ...the video encodes nicely but I end up with a sqeezed picture on my tv , which I hate , to me it's unwatchable, Does anyone know how keep the original widescrn picture? The input scrn settings in tovid don't have any effect
[03:03] <BluesKaj> !tovid
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <BluesKaj> that site sucks!
[03:04] <b_52Centos> hi
[03:05] <b_52Centos> in the middle of the install of kubuntu i have set a root password and i know i am not able to access to run account what is the default root password ?
[03:07] <Tm_T> b_52Centos: none
[03:07] <Tm_T> !root
[03:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:08] <b_52Centos> ubotu:  yeah i know
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yeah i know - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <zarck> im trying to customize my usplash image... but all i end up with is a black screen, and if i change back to the default it works... im not getting any errors or anything when generating it either =/
[03:13] <b_52Centos> monitor:~$ sudo passwd root
[03:13] <b_52Centos> Password:
[03:14] <b_52Centos> ?
[03:17] <zarck> realy gets to me, cos it apears that it should work flawless, not like when im trying to run png2bogl with a 24bit image =)
[03:20] <tchung> hi?
[03:20] <[GuS] > Bonjour les gens...
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !fr
[03:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:20] <tchung> how to connect to Ubuntu server?
[03:21] <[GuS] > BluesKaj, i am not french indeed :P
[03:21] <[GuS] > is my way to say hi.. ok? :)
[03:21] <tchung> LOL
[03:21] <charlie5> hi folks ... can i damage my monitor if i try too high a screen resolution & too high a refresh rate ?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> hehe [GuS]  , ok bonjour to vous too :)
[03:21] <[GuS] > ;)
[03:21] <tchung> don't think so, charlie
[03:22] <BluesKaj> it'll just crash if it can't handle the rate
[03:22] <charlie5> tchung: system settings if offering  1400x1050 @ 85Hz ... i didn't think my monitor or graphics card could handle that ...
[03:23] <charlie5> (if => is)
[03:23] <charlie5> i guess i could just try ... if it can't damage the equipment
[03:23] <tchung> sorry charlie... I ain't an expert here...
[03:23] <charlie5> tchung: no probs :)
[03:23] <tchung> I hope that some other expert can help you
[03:23] <BluesKaj> wow , that's asking a bit much
[03:24] <BluesKaj> charlie are you gaming ...and ya wanna keep up with braggart buddies etc ?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> if yer video card can't handle that rate , you'll know soos enuff :)
[03:25] <charlie5> BluesKaj: no :) ... just done a system update & noticed this new possible setting ... it don;t look right, and i'm a;scared to try :)
[03:26] <BluesKaj> well, why bother then
[03:26] <BluesKaj> if idoesn't "look " right it prolly isn't
[03:26] <b_52Centos> pff still with the root password !
[03:26] <charlie5> i'd like a higher resolution but the ones on offer are all at lower refresh rates (60Hz) ... except the 1400x1050 one
[03:27] <BluesKaj> anything above 60 ya won't really notice
[03:27] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[03:27] <saki> Hey, probably not the right place to ask, but I've been trying to install Wine, and it seems like it cannot configure the C compiler properly
[03:27] <saki> any suggestions?
[03:28] <halfbloodprince> and i added whatever resolutions i needed... but they aren't displaying.. i even logged off and restarted the x server.. do you think it will make a difference if i restart properly?
[03:28] <larson9999> saki there is a package for wine
[03:28] <voicu> Hi, could you tell me how I can enable ssh logins on my host?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> sorry i gave up on wine, i dunno why it's so buggy ...some ppl love it and it runs nicely ...it depends on the prog mostly
[03:28] <charlie5> BluesKaj: i'll play about with it a bit anyways, thanks
[03:28] <NeoSaki> larson: for x86_64
[03:28] <voicu> Do I need a server-kind program or just to set some permissions?
[03:29] <Tonio_> hum we experiment an issue on kubuntu-default-settings package in edgy and I would require your help, since we need a dapper users information
[03:29] <Tonio_> can you launch "update-alternatives --display usplash-artwork.so" and tell me if on the first line it appears to be "manual" or "auto" please ?
[03:30] <b_52Centos> ed@monitor:~$ sudo passwd root
[03:30] <b_52Centos> don't work
[03:30] <larson9999> NeoSaki: don't know.  haven't tried 64 yet,  i see too many people in here having trouble with 64 to give it a go :)
[03:30] <b_52Centos> he ask for a root password :)
[03:31] <NeoSaki> >_> 64 is nice, this is actually the first proggy i've ran into that won't configure
[03:31] <Tonio_> that's important for dapper -> edgy update
[03:31] <heras> voicu: you'll need to install something like openssh-server
[03:31] <Tm_T> Tonio_: I'll check
[03:31] <halfbloodprince> can someone help me out with my resolution issues?
[03:31] <graft> hey, anyone know how i can get my goddamn encoding to be utf8 permanently in Konsole?
[03:32] <voicu> heras, thanks, that's the one
[03:32] <Tonio_> Tm_T: thanks, we need the info of several users to be sure in fact
[03:32] <BluesKaj> NeoSaki, that's why i dropped 64bit and installed 32 bit ...the progs run on 32 , on 64 a lot of them won't work
[03:32] <graft> halfbloodprince: what's your resolution issue?
[03:32] <suppaman> hello
[03:32] <suppaman> anyone on ppc ??
[03:32] <graft> suppa, suppaman
[03:32] <willnapier> Hi folks I'm having problems copying to a usb key. I mounted it and did 'cp <filename> /media/usb_key. It told me it was a read-only file. I tried 'cp <filename> /dev/sda and it seemed to work. when I did ls I got gobbledygook.
[03:32] <suppaman> gra, graft
[03:33] <graft> willnapier: did you mount it rw or ro?
[03:33] <b_52Centos> HEPL
[03:33] <b_52Centos> SOS
[03:33] <b_52Centos> :D
[03:33] <Vanique> how to set opera web browser as a default ?
[03:33] <Vanique> ;] 
[03:33] <willnapier> neither - I just did mount
[03:33] <halfbloodprince> graft: in windows, i could use a maximum resolution of upto 1280x1024px... but in kubuntu it won't let me increase the resolution to above 1024x768
[03:33] <graft> willnapier: well what was your mount command?
[03:33] <halfbloodprince> i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[03:33] <halfbloodprince> and i added whatever resolutions i needed... but they aren't displaying.. i even logged off and restarted the x server.. do you think it will make a difference if i restart properly?
[03:34] <graft> halfbloodprince: probably not - what color depth are you using?
[03:34] <BluesKaj> halfbloodprince, have you tried setting it in admin mode , under system settings/hardware?
[03:34] <alexicon> hrm anyone here tried to copy a game over from windows into linux for cedega
[03:34] <graft> Vanique: there's a 'component chooser' under 'KDE components' in kcontrol that lets you set your default web browser
[03:35] <alexicon> know if i can just throw the whole game structure right into TransGaming_Drive/Program Files
[03:35] <Tonio_> thanks a lot for your much appreciated help... :(
[03:35] <halfbloodprince> BluesKaj: no, i don't think so..
[03:35] <willnapier> graft: sudo mount /dev/sda /media/usb_key
[03:35] <graft> man, this is what always happens.. i come here to get a question answered and end up answering other people's stuff... and my question never gets answered
[03:35] <graft> willnapier: what's the line for sda in /etc/fstab?
[03:35] <suppaman> does anyone know how enable airport using kubuntu on a Mac ?
[03:36] <graft> willnapier: or what does 'mount' say for /dev/sda?
[03:36] <halfbloodprince> BluesKaj: yeah.. it won't let me increase the resolution to over 1024x768
[03:36] <alexicon> graft: in konsole does it change to utf
[03:36] <alexicon> then just not go back when you start a new term
[03:36] <willnapier> graft: /dev/sda on /media/usb_key type iso9660 (rw)
[03:36] <BluesKaj> halfbloodprince, system settings/display/admin mode/
[03:36] <graft> alexicon: yeah, it's always Western-iso-8859-1 or some such... no matter what i do
[03:37] <willnapier> graft: the filesystem that I formattted it with is vfat
[03:37] <halfbloodprince> BluesKaj: I did that
[03:37] <graft> willnapier: um, i'm guessing you overwrote the FS anyway when you did your cp blah /dev/sda
[03:37] <Vanique> graft: thank you :)
[03:37] <BluesKaj> where is the res slider positined ?
[03:37] <graft> willnapier: did you try doing your cp <file> /media/usb_key as root, or sudo'ing it?
[03:38] <willnapier> I did it without using sudo and not as root
[03:38] <graft> how do you pronounce that, su-do-ing, or su-doing! ?
[03:38] <halfbloodprince> BluesKaj: it's positioned to the maximum, which is 1024x768
[03:38] <willnapier> hehe su-doing sounds greatg
[03:38] <BluesKaj> even in administrator mode ?
[03:38] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to upgrade to kubuntu edgy, but since more than 6 weeks it doesnt get any further because the package gsfonts-x11 cant be set up correctly - it says: usage error: unrecognized option\n Usage: update-fonts-dir DIRECTORY ...
[03:38] <graft> willnapier: well reformat your key and try it with sudo - might be rw only for root since you mounted it as root
[03:38] <halfbloodprince> yes, even in administrator mode
[03:38] <BluesKaj> bummer
[03:39] <graft> willnapier: otherwise try mounting it without 'sudo' and see if that works - if so you should be able to cp as user
[03:39] <BluesKaj> are on dapper 6.06 ?
[03:39] <willnapier> yes - is there any difference between formatting as vfat and formatting as fat16?
[03:39] <graft> willnapier: yeah, fat16 sucks
[03:40] <halfbloodprince> yeah dapper 6.06.1
[03:40] <willnapier> ok - it's just that those were the instructions for building a bootable install on a usb key. I'll stick with vfat then.
[03:40] <NeoSaki> lol
[03:40] <NeoSaki> hey any instructions on how to setup a 32-bit chroot?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> what video card  halfbloodprince ?
[03:41] <abattoir> NeoSaki: on a 64-bit install?
[03:41] <graft> willnapier: basically vfat has long filename support and fat16 does not
[03:41] <halfbloodprince> BluesKaj: it's an integrated intel video card.. this other guy on the channel had the same problem some time ago apparently, so he deleted all the other resolutions in xorg.conf except the one that he wanted to use.. that apparently worked
[03:41] <NeoSaki> abattoir: yup
[03:42] <willnapier> yes - can't see that this would matter though for a use-once bootable install. but as long as syslinux recognizes either thats ok
[03:42] <BluesKaj> oh , I never tried thjat halfbloodprince, so i couldn't say if it works on all machines
[03:42] <abattoir> NeoSaki: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:42] <graft> willnapier: everyone should be able to understand vfat, it's almost ubiquitous
[03:43] <NeoSaki> abattoir: thanks man <3
[03:43] <willnapier> graft: ok thanks.
[03:43] <halfbloodprince> BluesKaj: could it harm my computer in anyway if i did that?
[03:43] <abattoir> NeoSaki: :)
[03:44] <graft> halfbloodprince: no, it's just a config file
[03:44] <halfbloodprince> where's it located, lemme try
[03:44] <graft> halfbloodprince: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, usually
[03:44] <BluesKaj> dunno about that halfbloodprince :( , maybe one of the other guys here can help you on that one ... abattoir?
[03:45] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: with what?
[03:45] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: if i edit xorg.conf to delete all the screen resolutions except the one i want to use, will that harm my computer in any way?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, I'm not sure how to use it
[03:46] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: why'd you want to do that?
[03:46] <rod> hi, i have kubuntu on an lg laptop, but don't have some keys like the pipe key.  so i'm trying to use lineakd to change some unused keys to this function but can't work out how to do it, does this have anything to do with kubuntu or would i be better of contacting the developers of lineakd?
[03:46] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: my xorg.conf says this:
[03:46] <halfbloodprince> SubSection "Display"
[03:46] <halfbloodprince> 		Depth		1
[03:46] <halfbloodprince> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:47] <BluesKaj> he wants to increase his res from 1024x768 , which is max in his display settings
[03:47] <halfbloodprince> but i dont see any resolutions more than 1024x768 in my system settings>display
[03:47] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: ok, which card?
[03:47] <halfbloodprince> it's an integrated intel video card
[03:47] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: any idea about the model no. ?
[03:47] <joseba> hola
[03:48] <halfbloodprince> can i check that in some way? i dont know exactly..
[03:48] <suppaman> how can I scan for wireless network ?
[03:48] <halfbloodprince> i can view resolutions upto 1280x1024 properly in windows
[03:48] <willnapier> do I have to mount a usb pen drive before using fdisk?
[03:49] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: try 'lspci | grep Display' in the command line...
[03:49] <suppaman> has kubuntu a wireless network scanner ?
[03:49] <abattoir> suppaman: sure.. Kmenu->Internet->Wireless Assistant
[03:50] <suppaman> abattoir: thanks
[03:50] <suppaman> this essid is unproposable..
[03:50] <tchung> I would like to install gvim
[03:51] <tchung> does anyone know where I can find it?
[03:51] <suppaman> ? isn't it in repository ?
[03:51] <administrator__> can anyone assist with totem codecs newbie
[03:51] <tchung> I searched for it
[03:51] <tchung> no match
[03:51] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: i tried that.. it just goes to the next line (the prompt) without doing anything
[03:51] <suppaman> tchung: what repositories ?
[03:51] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: hmm, ok then just try 'lspci' see if that helps,
[03:52] <tchung> Dapper
[03:52] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: go through all that stuff till you see something to do w/ Intel and video..
[03:52] <abattoir> !info gvim
[03:52] <ubotu> Package gvim does not exist in any distro I know
[03:52] <halfbloodprince> what exactly am i looking for, a bunch of stuff showed up
[03:53] <abattoir> !info vim-gnome
[03:53] <ubotu> vim-gnome: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI. In component main, is extra. Version 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 695 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[03:53] <abattoir> tchung: ^^^ ??
[03:53] <suppaman> abattoir: great assistant!
[03:53] <tchung> how do you run it, abattoir?
[03:53] <abattoir> tchung: run what?
[03:53] <tchung> hold on
[03:53] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: what am i looking for in this?
[03:53] <abattoir> suppaman: who do you mean? :P
[03:54] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: please pastebin it
[03:54] <tchung> thx abattoir
[03:54] <administrator__> is anyone able to assist with codecs and plugins?
[03:54] <suppaman> abattoir: who ? I meant that Kmenu->Internet->Wireless Assistant is a great helper..
[03:55] <abattoir> suppaman: aah, ok :)
[03:55] <halfbloodprince> pastebin it?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> halfbloodprince, something like "VGA compatible controller"
[03:55] <suppaman> abattoir: is there a way to generate the hex key from a passphrase ? I generated it on Netgear AP and I don't like to enter the 26 digits by hand
[03:55] <abattoir> !pastebin
[03:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:56] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: copy the output and paste it^^^^
[03:56] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: give me back the link
[03:56] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: after so many days here, i though you'd know what pastebin was :P
[03:56] <halfbloodprince> haha i know what it is
[03:56] <BluesKaj> if the .org one is slow ...try the www.pastebin.com site
[03:56] <halfbloodprince> i just dont know how to use it
[03:56] <abattoir> suppaman: hmmm wait a sec, let me check
[03:57] <halfbloodprince> never hav
[03:58] <BluesKaj> halfbloodprince, do you know haow to copy and paste ?
[03:58] <halfbloodprince> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d23215 i guess
[03:59] <SuperSub> Can anyone assist we totem codecs and installation? PLZ NEWBIE
[03:59] <abattoir> weird, does the link above work in konq. for anyone?
[03:59] <alexicon> SuperSub: what do you need?
[04:00] <alexicon> which link abattoir
[04:00] <halfbloodprince> what about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23215
[04:00] <abattoir> not sure if the d should be there
[04:00] <SuperSub> codecs to play avi files
[04:00] <abattoir> !codecs
[04:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:00] <abattoir> SuperSub: ^^^
[04:00] <willnapier> I'm trying to format my usb key using fdisk. 'mount' says it is not mounted. 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda' gives 'unable to open /dev/sda. sudo fdisk /mnt/usb_key gives the same. It is down as sda1 in fstab so i tried that too.
[04:00] <tchung> what is the best ssh client for ubuntu?
[04:00] <alexicon> SuperSub: just make sure you get libxine-extracodecs and libmpeg
[04:00] <alexicon> tchung: konqueror?
[04:01] <alexicon> commandline?
[04:01] <alexicon> rsync ^_^
[04:01] <tchung> yea
[04:01] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: i thought i asked for the entire output...
[04:01] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: anyways, its an s3 savage
[04:01] <z1pp3r> alexicon, konqueror for ssh?
[04:01] <alexicon> konqueror if you want a gui
[04:01] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: and not an intel
[04:01] <halfbloodprince> ok sorry
[04:01] <alexicon> use fish://
[04:01] <z1pp3r> alexicon, forgive me my ignorance, but why would you want ssh to be gui?
[04:01] <alexicon> thats what he asked
[04:01] <alexicon> tchung: asked for an ssh client?
[04:02] <tchung> yea
[04:02] <alexicon> i assumed graphical
[04:02] <tchung> just a basic one
[04:02] <tchung> like putty
[04:02] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: see if you have xserver-xorg-video-savage installed...
[04:02] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: check this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23216
[04:02] <halfbloodprince> how do i see if i have that installed? (sorry about the n00b questions)
[04:02] <alexicon> theres putty actually for unix
[04:02] <alexicon> havent tried it tho
[04:03] <graft> fish:// is really an sftp client, isn't it?
[04:03] <alexicon> but you just use konsole or whatever :P
[04:03] <tchung> umm, is there a built in one in ubuntu?
[04:03] <alexicon> xgterm
[04:03] <graft> ssh client would be like, konsole + ssh
[04:03] <alexicon> fish does ssh too
[04:03] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: try 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-savage'
[04:03] <alexicon> cos i only have ssh port open on my gentoo box
[04:03] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: if it's installed, it'll tell you, else it'll install it for you
[04:04] <graft> alexicon: i mean, fish:// doesn't give you a shell, it is a file transfer client
[04:04] <alexicon> tchung: you mean where you just have a terminal in ssh? like xterm, konsole, gnome-terminal...
[04:04] <halfbloodprince> it says 'couldn't find package xserver-xorg-video-savage'
[04:04] <alexicon> no shell graft just a file manager view of ssh
[04:04] <tchung> yea... I wanna connect to a ssh server
[04:04] <alexicon> tchung: to do what?
[04:04] <alexicon> send files, or run apps?
[04:04] <abattoir> !info xserver-xorg-video-savage
[04:04] <ubotu> Package xserver-xorg-video-savage does not exist in any distro I know
[04:04] <graft> tchung: use konsole and the 'ssh' command
[04:05] <tchung> ok
[04:05] <tchung> I am just trying to connect to my school ssh server
[04:05] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: wait a sec
[04:05] <tchung> wanna check their config
[04:05] <maxi_> hola
[04:05] <graft> ssh is probably the most useful commandline app there is...
[04:05] <maxi_> hola
[04:05] <graft> well, maybe 'ls' is more useful..
[04:05] <alexicon> yeah tchung just use konsole or xterm
[04:06] <graft> bah, xterm! *spits*
[04:06] <alexicon> lol
[04:06] <alexicon> aterm whatever you fancy
[04:06] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: try xserver-xorg-driver-savage
[04:06] <z1pp3r> yeah, eterm is the way of the future, we all know that
[04:06] <alexicon> heh
[04:06] <alexicon> multiaterm
[04:06] <halfbloodprince> okay
[04:06] <z1pp3r> while we're at it, lets discuss vim vs emacs :)
[04:06] <alexicon> vim++
[04:07] <alexicon> i cant even figure out how to quit in emacs lol
[04:07] <BluesKaj> ok guys , does anyone use TOVID ?
[04:07] <alexicon> just bash on the keyboard til it goes away X-P
[04:07] <z1pp3r> lol
[04:07] <z1pp3r> yeah, that should do the trick
[04:07] <alexicon> killall emacs -9
[04:07] <alexicon> byebye
[04:07] <graft> vim clearly kicks the shit out of emacs
[04:07] <alexicon> i havent tried this new vim7 yet
[04:07] <graft> only unshaven people with body odor like emacs
[04:08] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: i got this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23217
[04:08] <BluesKaj> heh, that leaves me out ...what is emacs for anyway ?
[04:08] <z1pp3r> graft, or people who loves gadgets... "Oh look! My text editor can play mp3's! How usefull!"
[04:08] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: do you have adept running?
[04:08] <halfbloodprince> yes
[04:08] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: please close it if you do
[04:09] <alexicon> lol rms <3
[04:09] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[04:09] <halfbloodprince> ah, it says it's already the new version
[04:10] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: do you think the resolutions will show if i restart?
[04:10] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: ok, now run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[04:10] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: no
[04:10] <abattoir> not yet, atleast
[04:11] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: have you run that?
[04:11] <halfbloodprince> hold on
[04:11] <alexicon> !sources.list
[04:11] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: choose 'savage' as your driver
[04:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:11] <halfbloodprince> okay
[04:12] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: then choose the resolutions that you want
[04:13] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: this is what i get when i gave that command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23218
[04:14] <abattoir> ok, did you choose the resolutions that you wanted?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> if it's jus 2 lines or so halfbloodprince, you can post it in here :)
[04:15] <halfbloodprince> hehe
[04:15] <halfbloodprince> so what do i do?
[04:15] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: it didn't ask me to choose anything, i gave that command and i got what i pasted
[04:16] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: you didnt get a blue screen?
[04:16] <halfbloodprince> nope
[04:16] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: did you execute the exact command that i gave you?
[04:16] <halfbloodprince> yea
[04:17] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: i had already configured it earlier using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: did you choose savage the last time?
[04:18] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: yeah, i chose savage.. the changes are even reflected in my xorg.conf.. but i still don't see it
[04:18] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: and after choosing savage did you choose the resolution that you wanted?
[04:18] <halfbloodprince> yeah
[04:19] <halfbloodprince> it gave me a list of resolutions
[04:19] <abattoir> ok, when did you exactly run  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:19] <halfbloodprince> 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 were already selected (with an asterisk next to them), i added 1280x1024 and 1152x864
[04:19] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: i ran it about an hour ago
[04:20] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: ok, so you knew your card was savage...
[04:20] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: did you restart X after that?
[04:20] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: i'm confused, man.. i was told by my hardware guy that it's intel, and the driver i got was s3 savage.. so i thought that it was just the driver name (sorry)
[04:21] <halfbloodprince> yeah, i logged off, and did a ctrl-alt-backspace, and logged back in
[04:21] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: ok, run it again, restart X and if it still doesnt work, pastebin your xorg.conf file
[04:21] <GNUrante> when edgy knot go out? the 13 September?
[04:21] <halfbloodprince> okay
[04:21] <abattoir> !schedule
[04:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:22] <GNUrante> thnx
[04:23] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: try that, will be right back
[04:23] <halfbloodprince> done
[04:24] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: restart
[04:24] <Mortice> halfbloodprince: still having resolution trouble? :(
[04:24] <NeoSaki> whats the dapper equivalent of /etc/groups ?
[04:24] <elia> some body help?
[04:24] <Mortice> NeoSaki: /etc/group :)
[04:25] <halfbloodprince> do i need to log off to restart x
[04:25] <NeoSaki>  xD
[04:25] <elia> my kubuntu always crash,
[04:25] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: just close all open stuff(save all unsaved stuff) and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:26] <alexicon> !codecs > alexicon
[04:26] <JFreakCapo> hello everybody, i need help, i install ubuntu but my windows don't boot, then re-install windows, but now muy ubuntu don't boot, can i re-install just grub from de ubuntu's cd please i'm newbie
[04:26] <GNUrante> elia: wht?
[04:26] <GNUrante> elia: why
[04:26] <GNUrante> ?
[04:27] <abattoir> arunkale: does it work?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> !es
[04:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:27] <arunkale> nope, hold on
[04:28] <abattoir> arunkale: ok, wait a sec, i'll brb
[04:29] <GNUrante> JFreakCapo: you can remove grub for starting windoze: boot with simply recovery disk and after you can remove grub with fdisk /mbr
[04:29] <arunkale> okay, now it's acting a bit weird
 i don't need boot windows, i re-install it but now, my ubuntu don't boot...
[04:32] <NeoSaki> omg...i just spent 20 minutes troubleshooting a problem setting up the 32bit chroot to find out I misspelled etc with ect
[04:33] <GNUrante> JFreakCapo: use installation Cd with this kernel paramenter root=/dev/hd?? after rerun grub /dev/hd?
[04:33] <JFreakCapo> thks !!
[04:33] <GNUrante> JFreakCapo: =)
[04:34] <arunkale> BluesKaj: you there?
[04:36] <fur> yu
[04:38] <arunkale> anyone there?
[04:38] <BluesKaj> yes arunkale
[04:39] <buz> why is it that the kubuntu.org RSS stream is broken since pretty much forever
[04:40] <NeoSaki> anyone know of a good, customizable RSS news scroll for the desktop?
[04:40] <arunkale> BluesKaj: this is halfbloodprince..
[04:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:40] <arunkale> I did what abattoir suggested, but now i can't change the resolution at all
[04:41] <arunkale> I mean i can open system settings -> display.. but if i click on 'administrator mode', i can't see the slider
[04:41] <BluesKaj> did you try it in system settings again ?
[04:41] <arunkale> in 'normal' mode, i can see it
[04:42] <arunkale> yeah, i'm talking about system settings itself
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. all the 'plugins' for ktorrent are missing. :()
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> there were there the other day. Lol..
[04:42] <arunkale> i'm panicking a bit here :)
[04:43] <BluesKaj> dunno arunkale, ... better wait for abattoir or some who knows more about it ...I'm a relative newbie when it comes to command line stuff
[04:43] <arunkale> ah okay, thanks :)
[04:44] <BluesKaj> may be Dr_Willis can help you , arunkale :)
[04:45] <arunkale> Dr_Willis: hey
[04:45] <arunkale> got a minute?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> ask away
[04:47] <arunkale> Well, I can choose a screen resolution of upto 1280x1024 on Windows.. but Kubuntu won't let me increase my screen resolution beyond 1024x768. I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from the Konsole, and added the resolutions I wanted.. but now when I check system settings > display, the slider still shows the max. resolution to be 1024x768. And if I click on 'administrator mode', I get this screen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23223
[04:47] <arunkale> any ideas?
[04:47] <arunkale> I'm starting to panic a little bit
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> Its possible its your MONITOR settings that are telling the video card it can only do the lower res.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> what video card ya got?
[04:48] <NeoSaki> how can you give a chroot access to your current x server?
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> NeoSaki,  the use of the term 'chroot'  in that question is incorrect.
[04:49] <arunkale> I have a S3 Savage video card
[04:49] <NeoSaki> ?
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> you can run X apps as the root user with sudo,  or the Kde/gnome equilivents
[04:49] <arunkale> Did you see that screen, Dr_Willis?
[04:51] <fildo> just manually configure xorg.conf
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> arunkale,   you could either use that x modline genrator web site. and hand customise the xorg.conf , OR (and even a better idea) try some of the various live cd's and see if they use the correct res. if so. copy THEIR xorg.conf over. and compare what they use vs what your system is using.
[04:51] <fildo> with the specs of your card.
[04:51] <merino> 555
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl   - for the modeline generator
[04:52] <fildo> merino: japanese?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Moo-goo-gai-pan!
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> :p
[04:52] <_Dink> Anyoe here running ati 8.28 driver with cedega ?
[04:53] <merino> fildo: what? japanese?
[04:53] <luckysaify> hi
[04:53] <BluesKaj> !jp
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <arunkale> Dr_Willis: at this point, i dont even mind the 1024x768.. i just want my administrator mode thing to work in the display dialog box...
[04:53] <arunkale> how do i fix that?
[04:53] <yamal> naah that's chinese
[04:53] <luckysaify> i m indian
[04:53] <MenZa> !zh
[04:53] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> arunkale,  no clue there. ive rarely ever used that part of kde.   try running that preferance tool from the shel and see if any errors show up
[04:53] <fildo> that modeline is a good site, ill book mark that for newbies
[04:54] <NeoSaki> whats the fstab equivalent of this expression: mount -t devpts none /chroot32/dev/pts?
[04:54] <merino> oh,sorry,I'm speaking chinese:)
[04:54] <arunkale> brb
[04:54] <merino> I complie kernel 2.6.17.13
[04:54] <fildo> cedega !
[04:54] <fildo> send! to me
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> devpts? hmm.. aint seen that in ages
[04:54] <merino> the sound card cannot work
[04:55] <_Dink> if you can help me fix my 3d acceleration failed test sure ;)
[04:55] <NeoSaki> should i just have it bind or is it none none?
[04:55] <fildo> ok whats up
[04:55] <merino> but very strange, alsaconf and alsamixer show everything is quite well, just no sound
[04:56] <_Dink> 3d acceleration fails in cedega :P ... everything else works and gives correct output..
[04:56] <_Dink> fglrxinfo is fine... cedega notices the driver... but fails 3d test
[04:56] <BluesKaj> TOVID fails alot ..is there another burning prog that can encode/decode video ...K3b is not set up for  video properly
[04:56] <_Dink> i get no love in #Cedega first they told me to come here... now they just ignore me :P
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> _Dink,  the cedega forums  - would be the place to go.. assumin gyou got 3d support for your video card working.
[04:57] <KingHeaven> can kubuntu umcompress .rar files?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[04:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> KingHeaven,  no - but the rar tools can. :)
[04:58] <_Dink> Dr_Willis, Tried forums
[04:58] <KingHeaven> what tool ?
[04:58] <_Dink> cedga and ubuntu
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> ark + those Rar packages just shown..
[04:58] <_Dink> no answer to the problem
[04:58] <fildo> ati card ?
[04:58] <fildo> or nv
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> _Dink,  #1 - is your video card 3d working correctly.  if not - then its a kubuntu issue/configuration issue.
[04:58] <_Dink> yes it is
[04:58] <_Dink> fgl_glxgears is fine
[04:59] <_Dink> fglrxinfo spits out correct info
[04:59] <_Dink> honestly im stumped
[04:59] <_Dink> ati card
[04:59] <main2x> _Dink, can you repeat ur question?
[04:59] <_Dink> 9600
[04:59] <KingHeaven> ark doesn't work
[04:59] <main2x> ati card - should run on :1 display 1
[04:59] <main2x> it has fglrx bug..
[05:00] <_Dink> hmm
[05:00] <main2x> ATI SUCKS ASS, boycot them
[05:00] <NeoSaki> Linux hates ATI
[05:00] <_Dink> i think its running on 0.0 screen 0
[05:00] <arunkale> hello
[05:01] <main2x> (they've never supported, or given about the *nix community, show them how money can hurt  )
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> KingHeaven,  ark can work - if you have the unrar/rar packages/tools installed.
[05:01] <main2x> NeoSaki, linux hates nobody
[05:01] <_Dink> main2x so you think its display issuebug ?
[05:01] <arunkale> Dr_Willis: I restarted.. the administrator mode is working now :)(
[05:01] <main2x> thats ur imagination
[05:01] <_Dink> change it to 1 ?
[05:01] <arunkale> :)
[05:02] <_Dink> Its wierd though ... 2.6.17 works
[05:02] <arunkale> Dr_Willis: this guy earlier had the same problem, what he did was delete all the resolutions from xorg.conf except the one he wanted to use
[05:02] <_Dink> might be the display thing like main2x said i didnt check that
[05:03] <fildo> _Dink: ps -A | grep Xgl
[05:03] <fildo> output of that?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> arunkale,  i normally set the one res i use.. which is the lcd's native res. :P
[05:04] <_Dink> interesting nada
[05:04] <main2x> if this is about Xgl, i just came in.. but them im 100% sure that its the :1 display bug
[05:04] <main2x> then
[05:04] <arunkale> i guess 1024x768 is not that bad :\
[05:04] <_Dink> fildo no output
[05:04] <main2x> _Dink, ur trying to get Xgl running?
[05:04] <_Dink> no
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> its HIGHLY possible theres some odd bugglet with the newer version.
[05:05] <_Dink> 3d acceleration with cedega
[05:05] <_Dink> ati driver 8.28.8
[05:05] <fildo> no xgl . no acceleration
[05:05] <_Dink> honestly any I tried 8.25, 8.27
[05:05] <NeoSaki> meh
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> with cededa - the versions of the different parts.. can be the  big factor.
[05:07] <_Dink> I dont think  you need xgl to pass cedega 3d test
[05:07] <fildo> dose it honestly run good with cd cedega ?
[05:07] <fildo> ive never seen it before
[05:07] <fildo> i recon you would
[05:07] <_Dink> it ran excellent with 2.6.17 kernel
[05:09] <_Dink> plus I didnt think ati and xgl were compatible yet
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> ive found it pays to be cautious with things like ati drivers. and cedega, and kernel versions :P
[05:09] <fildo> did u buy cedega ?
[05:09] <fildo> or compile from source
[05:09] <_Dink> bought
[05:10] <_Dink> yea thats it i bought it :P
[05:10] <_Dink> debian binary
[05:10] <fildo> its like $5bucks
[05:10] <_Dink> 5$ im saving up for a better non-ati card :p
[05:10] <fildo> ahha
[05:11] <z1pp3r> I've grown tired of the look of the default theme of kde in kubuntu. Where can i find more themes?
[05:11] <fildo> use compiz
[05:11] <KingHeaven> does rar support ppc ?
[05:12] <usuario> Hello
[05:12] <z1pp3r> fildo, i'll use compiz when it becomes more stable
[05:13] <usuario> Anyone of you guys know how can I convert a WPS file into a open office file?
[05:14] <fildo> stable for me ..
[05:14] <fildo> just needs a bit of tlc
[05:14] <Mortice> usuario: you should be able to open it in openoffice and then save it as an openoffice file?
[05:14] <_Dink> so any other suggestions :P ?
[05:14] <fildo> _Dink: never mind copy on torrent
[05:14] <fildo> ;p
[05:15] <usuario> My open office can't open it
[05:15] <_Dink> yuck torrent has trackers...
[05:15] <usuario> And I've been reading on the net and they say something about converters
[05:15] <_Dink> get emails from companies all the time to tell our students to stop downloading stuff off torrents
[05:16] <_Dink> or legal actions will be taken
[05:17] <fildo> haha newbs
[05:17] <fildo> proxies rock . .fake idents .
[05:18] <merino> fildo: can you help me?
[05:18] <_Dink> lol
[05:18] <_Dink> I use ftp :P
[05:19] <usuario> Any suggestion MORTICE?
[05:19] <_Dink> 1gb/100mb sources =)
[05:19] <fildo> whats up merino
[05:20] <fildo> Linux liberty 2.6.15-26-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 03:13:28 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:20] <fildo> man ive only had this install for a month or so
[05:20] <fildo> im no expert. ha
[05:20] <merino> fildo: I complie new kernel, the soundcard out of work, but alsaconf & mixer show the status is fine
[05:20] <buz> why do you compile a kernel, anyway
[05:21] <halfbloodprince> waback, abattoir
[05:21] <alexicon> do they have /etc/init.d/XX status in ubuntu?
[05:21] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: did it work?
[05:21] <abattoir> ty :)
[05:22] <alexicon> how can you check which inits are running
[05:22] <fildo> ps aux ?
[05:22] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: no, it's still 1024x768
[05:22] <halfbloodprince> do you want a copy of my xorg.conf?
[05:22] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: yes :)
[05:22] <alexicon> erm
[05:22] <alexicon> i dunno gentoo has stuff like /etc/init.d/sshd status
[05:22] <alexicon> tells you if its on or off
[05:22] <alexicon> or some rc-status?
[05:22] <fildo> merino: narh cant help mate, no expirence in sound , its usallt worked out of the box for me
[05:24] <merino> fildo: see
[05:24] <merino> fildo: thx
[05:24] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23224
[05:26] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: run 'randrtray
[05:26] <abattoir> krandrtray
[05:26] <abattoir> sorry
[05:27] <halfbloodprince> i should type this in the konsole?
[05:27] <halfbloodprince> ?
[05:27] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: yes, konsole, or in the KDE run dialog(Alt+F2)
[05:27] <halfbloodprince> okay
[05:27] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: it should go into the system tray
[05:27] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: click on it... and see if the res. you want are available
[05:28] <halfbloodprince> nope, not available
[05:28] <halfbloodprince> 1024x768 is the max
[05:28] <abattoir> ok, wait i'll see if the driver supports it
[05:31] <fildo> ur monitor not a 14" or anything halfbloodprince
[05:31] <halfbloodprince> 15", i think
[05:32] <fildo> thats probably max res
[05:32] <fildo> of monitor
[05:32] <alexicon> !wine > alexicon
[05:32] <fildo> but u said u had it running higher in windows ?
[05:33] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: i've not found much info...
[05:33] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: other than adding an opion to xorg.conf
[05:33] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: want to try that?
[05:34] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: i'm not sure about the side-effects/rammifications of putting that in... so i warn you...
[05:34] <abattoir> *option
[05:34] <fildo> do as u will :p
[05:34] <fildo> in otherwords
[05:34] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: so tell me if you want to try it
[05:35] <kOpter> Yello :)
[05:35] <halfbloodprince> what option?
[05:35] <kOpter> I've just installed a new soundcard.. how do I get it to work?!
[05:36] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: Option "NoUseBios" in xorg.conf
[05:37] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23228 <--- it should look like this
[05:39] <halfbloodprince> how exactly does this work?
[05:41] <halfbloodprince> abattoir?
[05:41] <octan> hi all
[05:41] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: i'm not sure, but it think it overrides the information that is provided by the bios on the resolutions
[05:41] <octan> how can i extract a rpm file in kubuntu?
[05:41] <octan> not install
[05:42] <octan> but decompress it
[05:42] <halfbloodprince> abattoir, no thanks :) i'll stick to this hehe
[05:42] <halfbloodprince> thanks a lot for your help though
[05:42] <halfbloodprince> i so love kubuntu
[05:42] <Alextremo> hello good mornig, how are alls ?
[05:42] <octan> does anyone know?
[05:42] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: i'm not sure, it might do nothing at all, and your res. might come up, but since i'm not sure i wont guarantee anything :)
[05:43] <abattoir> nothing->side-effects
[05:43] <halfbloodprince> ah
[05:44] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: can you recommend some good looking themes? i know i can look at kde-look, but was wondering if anyone has any favourites here
[05:45] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: my favourite widget style is baghira(because you can change its colour)...
[05:46] <fildo> octan: use alien to convert to .deb
[05:46] <octan> alien?
[05:46] <fildo> !alien
[05:46] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[05:46] <halfbloodprince> man, kubuntu is truly linux for human beings
[05:46] <halfbloodprince> i set up everything so fast!
[05:46] <fildo> very easy.
[05:46] <Tm_T> abattoir: I use tiblit, no other widget style offer same level of control, atleast I haven't seen any
[05:46] <fildo> i started off with redhat 9
[05:47] <fildo> a big difference
[05:47] <fildo> :p
[05:48] <octan> fildo, thank you
[05:48] <fildo> octan: nps
[05:48] <fildo> its what iam here for, nothing else to do :p
[05:48] <fildo> then sitting and monitoring some mrtg screens
[05:48] <fildo> ha
[05:49] <fildo> n getting paid for it
[05:49] <mrj> hi
[05:49] <mrj> i have a patch
[05:50] <mrj> for aa kernel
[05:50] <mrj> how do i patch the kernel ?
[05:50] <Alextremo> sorry, (i talk spanish).... what is widget ?????
[05:50] <Alextremo> widget style ????
[05:53] <mrj> could somebody help me
[05:54] <AWOSDev> I need help using DD.
[05:54] <AWOSDev> I need it to copy only 512 bytes from the if
[05:55] <mrj> hi
[05:55] <mrj> i wanna patch my kernel
[05:55] <BluesKaj> is there an avi to mpeg2 convertor for Kubuntu ?
[05:56] <mrj> when i try the patch command it says : file to patch :
[05:56] <noob> hi folks .. I think I screwed up my x-server ... it doesn't start anymore ... I tried to get some xgl-stuff working .. but .. hrm :(
[05:56] <mrj> so
[05:56] <mrj> which file should i type ?
[05:56] <halfbloodprince> anyone know any good window themes?
[05:57] <halfbloodprince> Also, how do i separate the kmenu from the taskbar?
[05:57] <lecci> hi all
[05:57] <AWOSDev> halfbloodprince, I don't think you can separate those.
[05:57] <abattoir> Tm_T: hi :)
[05:57] <halfbloodprince> AWOSDev: really? I've seen screenshots where they're separated
[05:57] <abattoir> Tm_T: havent tried that one, maybe when i get bored of baghira :P
[05:58] <Tm_T> heh
[05:58] <Mortice> AWOSDev: sure you can. remove the taskbar from the panel the menu button is on, create a new panel, add the taskbar to that panel.
[05:58] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: what do you mean by 'separated' ?
[05:58] <lecci> i have a problem istalling freeradiu... when i make ./configure return this:configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH... Someone can help me?
[05:58] <Tm_T> abattoir: I leaved baghira because it became "heavy" to my eyes
[05:58] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: I want my minimised programs to go to a taskbar on top
[05:58] <halfbloodprince> OS X style
[05:58] <AWOSDev> Oh yeah, I also tried "dd count=b 512" like in the manual
[05:58] <fildo> abattoir: baghira is like osx
[05:58] <fildo> ?
[05:59] <AWOSDev> but it said "b 512: invalid number"
[05:59] <abattoir> Tm_T: heh
[05:59] <fildo> or just a theme manager
[05:59] <halfbloodprince> where can i see baghira
[05:59] <abattoir> fildo: yes... but more customizable
[05:59] <lecci> i have a problem istalling freeradiu... when i make ./configure return this:configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH... Someone can help me?
[05:59] <fildo> like compiz ?
[05:59] <abattoir> !find baghira
[05:59] <ubotu> Found: kwin-baghira
[05:59] <AWOSDev> lecci, Kubuntu (for some reason) doesn't come with gcc.
[05:59] <noob> what would you do to reconfigure the x-server ? :>
[05:59] <abattoir> !info kwin-baghira
[05:59] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7a-1build2 (dapper), package size 642 kB, installed size 1848 kB
[05:59] <fildo> lecci: sudo apt-get install g++ gcc
[05:59] <AWOSDev> lecci, sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:59] <abattoir> halfbloodprince, fildo^^^
[06:00] <fildo> nice
[06:00] <fildo> !compiz
[06:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:00] <noob> buargh compiz
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> theres several reasons it dont come with it. :P
[06:00] <abattoir> fildo: it has its own finder-like app, a windeco, a widget style(from what i've seen...)
[06:00] <noob> that's the cause of my fscked up X :(
[06:00] <noob> ah .. I have to remove it.
[06:00] <lecci> Impossible find g....
[06:00] <mrj> people
[06:00] <halfbloodprince> how do i get baghira
[06:01] <mrj> how do i patch the kernel ?
[06:01] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: do you have universe enabled?
[06:01] <fildo> noob: haha.why ? i just did the install today
[06:01] <fildo> worked fine ;p
[06:01] <fildo> apart from the firt run n crash ..
[06:01] <mrj> i mean when i run the command patch -p0 <patch_name it asks which fiel should be patched
[06:01] <mrj> what should  i do ?
[06:01] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: yes
[06:01] <abattoir> lecci: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:01] <fildo> mrj man patch
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> I think you got a long road ahead of you mrj :P
[06:02] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: then 'sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira'
[06:02] <noob> fildo hmm well I changed my xorg with some xgl xorg .. and now my X server won't boot
[06:02] <noob> :(
[06:02] <fildo> well thats ur problem there
[06:02] <noob> I did everything according to some 'manual'
[06:02] <frojnd> hello everybody
[06:02] <fildo> u edit it to suit . either ati / or nv
[06:02] <noob> I know..
[06:02] <frojnd> how can I unrar .ace file with Ark?
[06:02] <abattoir> noob: try 'sudo dexconf' that should get you back your 'default' xorg.conf
[06:02] <mrj> why do i need man patch
[06:02] <fildo> frojnd: apt-get install rar
[06:02] <lecci> impossible find built-essential....
[06:02] <noob> abattoir:  thanks
[06:03] <noob> ok .. wish me luck or something else .. hehe
[06:03] <noob> <-- reboot
[06:03] <mrj> the patch-script asks me which file should be patched
[06:03] <abattoir> lecci: 'build-essential'
[06:03] <fildo> no luck need
[06:03] <fildo> let the force be with you
[06:03] <fildo> ha
[06:03] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: does it just install widgets? or even the window themes and taskbar and everything?
[06:03] <frojnd> fildo no rar...
[06:03] <fildo> hmm
[06:03] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: it installs the widget and windeco...
[06:03] <fildo> !rar
[06:03] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:03] <mrj> fildo: which fiel is been patched usually when one pathes his kernel ?
[06:03] <frojnd> at least not on 5:10 version
[06:03] <lecci> impossible find build-essential
[06:04] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: what do you mean by the taskbar? a dock?
[06:04] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: or do you want 2 separate panels(like gnome)?
[06:04] <fildo> mrj: never patched kernel before
[06:04] <abattoir> lecci: ok, try 'sudo apt-get update' first, and then try it
[06:04] <lecci> ok
[06:04] <mrj> fildo: nope
[06:04] <lecci> i try
[06:05] <fildo> mrj: i mean i havent
[06:05] <mrj> ah
[06:05] <fildo> +google it
[06:05] <fildo> ur best friend
[06:05] <mrj> :)
[06:05] <noob> re. ;>
[06:05] <fildo> howd ya go noob
[06:06] <noob> not too good ;O(  .. x still doesn't want to boot .. it only shows me that kubuntu-loading-bar
[06:06] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: yeah, one panel on top where the minimised stuff goes, and one at the bottom with icons for launching stuff
[06:06] <halfbloodprince> like os x
[06:06] <lecci> impossible find build-essential...
[06:07] <fildo> ok ur sources.list is wrong i think
[06:07] <abattoir> noob: did you change something else?
[06:07] <mrj> i was not able to find anything
[06:07] <mrj> :(
[06:08] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: ok, just move the panel up...
[06:08] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: and kxdocker is the app you are looking for
[06:08] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[06:08] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[06:08] <noob> abattoir : yes ... probably too much... I installed the xgl version of xorg .. and compiz and other stuff compiz needed
[06:08] <Mortice> innovative and a copy? interesting. ;)
[06:08] <abattoir> noob: aah, then you might need the 'stock' xorg...
[06:09] <noob> I uninstalled xserver-xorg and reinstalled it again
[06:09] <noob> shouldn't be that enough?
[06:09] <lecci> abattoir: return always E: Impossibile trovare build-essential
[06:09] <noob> note to myself: never touch a running system!
[06:09] <lecci> !seen smok
[06:09] <ubotu> I last saw smok (n=Richard@clyne.plus.com) 9h 36m 48s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[06:09] <noob> :D
[06:10] <lecci> !seen smoking
[06:10] <ubotu> I haven't seen smoking recently
[06:10] <lecci> !seen smooking
[06:10] <abattoir> lecci: which roughly translates to?
[06:10] <ubotu> I haven't seen smooking recently
[06:10] <NthDegree> Vanique: dude you ever sleep
[06:10] <fildo> !seen fildo
[06:10] <ubotu> fildo is on IRC right now!
[06:10] <fildo> no way
[06:10] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: ?
[06:10] <fildo> tcl script working well
[06:11] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: huh?
[06:11] <lecci> return: E: Impossible find build-essential
[06:11] <lecci> !seen smooking_man
[06:11] <ubotu> I haven't seen smooking_man recently
[06:11] <abattoir> lecci: could you please pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:11] <abattoir> !pastebin
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[06:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !info hexedit
[06:14] <ubotu> hexedit: view and edit files in hexadecimal or in ASCII. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.12-1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 104 kB
[06:15] <Vincer-> 'lut a tous
[06:15] <frojnd> o nose
[06:15] <Vincer-> en tant que meme pas encore noobie, j'ai  l'evidence une question  vous poser ^
[06:15] <frojnd> I can't downlaod winace :S
[06:15] <abattoir> !fr
[06:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:16] <Vincer-> oups !!sorry
[06:16] <mrj> !bg
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <abattoir> 'morning Hawkwind
[06:16] <mrj> !mk
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Hey there abattoir
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <mrj> !de
[06:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:16] <abattoir> or, rather, close to noon :P
[06:16] <Vincer-> mmh, i'm not to good in english to explain my problem ^  ^
[06:16] <Vincer-> bye :)
[06:17] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I have 43 minutes :P
[06:17] <abattoir> Hawkwind: well, closer to it than morning at least :P
[06:17] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Though I've been up for a while, just didn't get on the computer
[06:17] <nixternal> abattoir, Hawkwind, Jucato:  Anyplace where we can meet privately for a second?
[06:17] <nixternal> OT
[06:17] <nixternal> in a way ;)
[06:18] <fildo> 2:18am here in AUS
[06:20] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: is baghira easily uninstallable? without side effects?
[06:20] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: sure, remove kwin-baghira... the same package you installed
[06:20] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: why? dont like it?
[06:21] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: no, haven't tried it yet.. i'm a paranoid bastard, i need to know this stuff before i install it :p
[06:21] <halfbloodprince> i installed a skin for windows once.. it soo screwed up my system
[06:21] <abattoir> aah, google for it, might find some interesting info and screenshots
[06:21] <fildo> lol
[06:22] <fildo> good night people. happy problem solving
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> You are thinking in 'windows terms' again halfbloodprince  :)
[06:22] <halfbloodprince> haha
[06:22] <halfbloodprince> yes
[06:22] <halfbloodprince> which browser do you guys use?
[06:22] <fildo> opera
[06:22] <saki> ight i completely formated my computer and installed i386 kubuntu
[06:22] <saki> >_>
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> theming under windows - is intintially CRippled by MS. so they can promote their look/feel/brand image.. APple does the same thing.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Intentially :)
[06:23] <halfbloodprince> opera is good?
[06:23] <halfbloodprince> for linux?
[06:24] <fildo> well i choose to use it over any other browser, thats just me i guess
[06:24] <halfbloodprince> btw, my clock is showing the wrong time
[06:24] <saki> Dr_Willis, thats actually the original reason I wanted linux, the customizability
[06:24] <fildo> firefox i like aswell . very similar
[06:24] <halfbloodprince> how do i fix the time
[06:24] <fildo> just opera handles mail n everything . n newer version supoprts widgets
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> halfbloodprince,  is it the clock.. or your system clock. :P
[06:25] <AWOSDev> halfbloodprince, uh, date?
[06:25] <halfbloodprince> date is correct
[06:25] <halfbloodprince> time is wrong
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> my times are always screwed up. :P i think my system clock is set to utc.. but the clock applet is showing the localtime
[06:25] <Ayabara> is it possible to use a webcam with skype in kubuntu?
[06:25] <abattoir> Ayabara: skype for linux doesnt support video, yet
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Ayabara,  i dont know if the linux sype cliekt has webcam support yet.
[06:25] <AWOSDev> halfbloodprince, I mean use the program called date.
[06:25] <halfbloodprince> how do i fix the time
[06:25] <abattoir> Ayabara: might be possible w/ wine... but dont know
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> halfbloodprince,  click on the clock.. adjust the time
[06:26] <Ayabara> abattoir, Dr_Willis: I suspected it might be so :-(
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> logical place to put a menu to adjust the time eh? :P
[06:26] <fildo> ;p
[06:26] <halfbloodprince> if i click on the clock, it shows me the calendar
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> try the MENUS on the clock
[06:27] <fildo> right click
[06:27] <halfbloodprince> ah okay
[06:27] <AWOSDev> Context-click it
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> or do we have to get even more basic :)
[06:27] <fildo> lol
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> move the mouse over... a little more... too far...
[06:27] <fildo> use index finger.
[06:27] <fildo> right button, surpress. release. surpress
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> click the right button...    wife: You got 3 buttons@! how do i know what one is the right one!!
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> activate the correct digit interface control.
[06:28] <fildo> mate, in that case, lick the middle button
[06:28] <fildo> n watch the other 2 explode
[06:28] <BluesKaj> I DL'd and  did the tar xvjf filename command  , but the prog doesn't show up in the kicker ...what am I doing wrong ?
[06:28] <halfbloodprince> yeah, done now
[06:28] <AWOSDev> Yeah, the 'right' button...that's why I *always* say context-click (but then nobody knows what context-click is if they weren't around in Windows 3.1/95 days)
[06:28] <Ayabara> are there other chat programs for linux and windows that support video? I want to call a friend using windows
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thats the problem with spoon-feeding people (and using game guides) ya get trained to not even try to think or explore. :)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> call = voice :P
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> like seeing their face will promote better communications.
[06:29] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, ?
[06:29] <AWOSDev> Unless you mean call with a videophone.  :P
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Unless its the grandparents.. who want to see the kids...
[06:29] <BluesKaj> I DL'd and  did the tar xvjf filename command  , but the prog doesn't show up in the kicker ...what am I doing wrong ?
[06:29] <frojnd> I can't uncompreesed .ace file wit unace :S
[06:29] <frojnd> can someone help me?
[06:30] <fildo> why not
[06:30] <frojnd> q@kubuntu:~$ unace x Summoning-LetMortalHeroesSingYourFame.ace
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Not like a postage sized jerky webcam video.. really shows you details of  blueprints, or other things.
[06:30] <frojnd> UNACE v1.2    public version
[06:30] <frojnd> Error opening file Summoning-LetMortalHeroesSingYourFame.ace
[06:30] <fildo> frojnd: man unace
[06:30] <BluesKaj> ANYONE?
[06:30] <Ayabara> Dr_Willis, good point :-)
[06:30] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis, I added a bunch of repos and still apt-cache search hexedit finds nothing.
[06:30] <fildo> will give u command to uncompress
[06:30] <abattoir> BluesKaj: which prog. ?
[06:30] <BluesKaj> devede23
[06:31] <AWOSDev> frojnd, are you sure it's capitalised like that?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> AWOSDev,  i am using the ones from easysource
[06:31] <BluesKaj> tovid fails
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> AWOSDev,  i just clicked all of them.. and cut/pasted
[06:31] <frojnd> AWOSDev : unace <command> [switches]  <archive[.ace] >
[06:31] <willnapier> hi folks I'm having problems with my usbkey. I have used fdisk to create one fat16 partition on /dev/sda1. Now when I try to use mkdosfs (sudo mkdosfs /dev/sda1) I get 'no such file or directory.
[06:31] <sdlnxgk> !usb mass storage
[06:31] <AWOSDev> Right I did that
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb mass storage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <frojnd> I don't knw what dto do with [switches] 
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> !usb
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> !mass storage
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mass storage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <BluesKaj> abattoir, http://pastebin.ca/167998
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  it may be using the old partitioninfo.. perhaps unplug/plug it back in.
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> trying  to access my 1gig usb storage device does anyone have one up and running??
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> sdlnxgk,  oodles of people use them :P
[06:33] <saki> !automatix
[06:33] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:33] <Vanique> NthDegree: alive, dude ?
[06:33] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: thanks I 'll try that
[06:33] <BluesKaj> looks like it installs but I can't find the exec file to open it
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> I got 2 external usb hard drives here.. and a 2.2 gb usb thing... :P and a 1 gb psp memory card
[06:33] <abattoir> BluesKaj: its a dir..?
[06:33] <halfbloodprince> what is the 'kde wallet'
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> halfbloodprince,  a plac3 to store all your passwords
[06:34] <halfbloodprince> it's saying 'a kde wallet is open'
[06:34] <halfbloodprince> whts' tht mean
[06:34] <halfbloodprince> 'KDE Wallet: A wallet is open'
[06:34] <abattoir> BluesKaj: and its glade... you'd need to install python-gtk and the python-glade stuff.. adept should help you out w/ the correct names
[06:35] <BluesKaj> ok , sorry to bother you, i should have checked there first
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> I would gues syou got a kdewallet session open allready halfbloodprince
[06:35] <LouKall> grr! i need help unrar'ing a file
[06:35] <halfbloodprince> how did that happen
[06:36] <frojnd> It doesn't wanna to extracked...
[06:36] <abattoir> LouKall: do you have unrar installed?
[06:36] <abattoir> !info unrar
[06:36] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:36] <LouKall> i cant do it through the terminal, and i cant do it through xarchive!
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> halfbloodprince,  its your system.. you tell us. :P
[06:36] <NeoSaki> Is there a way to have Wallet auto sign in without password input?
[06:36] <LouKall> i am supposed to have them installed.
[06:36] <frojnd> q@kubuntu:~$ unace x -y Summoning-LetMortalHeroesSingYourFame.ace
[06:36] <frojnd>  and it says: Error opening file Summoning-LetMortalHeroesSingYourFame.ace
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> !kwallet
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <AWOSDev> frojnd, I meant is the *file* capitialised like that.
[06:36] <frojnd> ja
[06:36] <frojnd> I copy/paste it
[06:36] <abattoir> LouKall: if you have it installed, then 'unrar x file.rar' or even ark can handle it(unless it has a password)
[06:36] <AWOSDev> from ls?
[06:36] <halfbloodprince> !kde wallet
[06:36] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: in the fstab it says 'auto' for the type, when it is actually fat16. should I change the entry from auto to vfat?
[06:36] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[06:36] <frojnd> no..
[06:36] <frojnd> not grom ls
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> kwalletmanager and check its settings
[06:37] <LouKall> abbattoir: i have it installed, but i cant unrar anything in terminal.
[06:37] <frojnd> grom konqueror..
[06:37] <AWOSDev> Oh, okay.
[06:37] <LouKall> abbattoir: it does have a pass on it.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  vfat is not fat16.. 'fat' i think is.. but vfat may work also.
[06:37] <abattoir> LouKall: ok, then 'unrar x file.rar' it is
[06:37] <LouKall> abbattoir: i dont know how to get the pass either.
[06:37] <frojnd> but, still doesn't work :D
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> willnapier,  normally ive NEVER seen auto work for the fat** filesystems
[06:37] <frojnd> :S*
[06:37] <abattoir> LouKall: well, if you dont know the pass, you cant extract it :P
[06:37] <LouKall> abbattoir: it just says command not found when i try unrar
[06:37] <willnapier> Dr_Willis: thanks that could be it I'll change fstab
[06:37] <LouKall> well that was a waste of a download.
[06:37] <abattoir> LouKall: unless you use some brute-force methods which take ages
[06:38] <abattoir> LouKall: then you dont have unrar installed
[06:38] <LouKall> abbattoir: what do you suggest?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[06:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:38] <LouKall> i swear it.
[06:38] <abattoir> LouKall: 'sudo apt-get install unrar' if you have universe
[06:38] <LouKall> k
[06:38] <abattoir> LouKall: well, try finding the password
[06:38] <abattoir> LouKall: if you cant, then i guess you just delete the file
[06:38] <LouKall> plau/
[06:38] <LouKall> opps.
[06:38] <LouKall> okay.
[06:39] <LouKall> yay unrar works now.
[06:39] <abattoir> LouKall: did you put the password?
[06:39] <abattoir> LouKall: there might be a comment which might indicate the p/d if someone else did it(or atleast i used to do that)
[06:40] <LouKall> abbattoir: thats what i figured they would do. im searching. cannot find anything.
[06:40] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis, I checked off *every* repo on easysources.
[06:40] <AWOSDev> Reading package lists... Done
[06:40] <AWOSDev> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:40] <AWOSDev> E: Couldn't find package hexedit
[06:40] <abattoir> LouKall: i cant think of anything then... other than brute-force(and am not aware of a linux brute-fore app)
[06:41] <LouKall> hrm.
[06:41] <LouKall> abattoir: how do i do the file name for... Dead To Fall - The Phoenix Throne.part01.rar
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> you did apt-get update?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !info hexedit
[06:41] <ubotu> hexedit: view and edit files in hexadecimal or in ASCII. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.12-1 (dapper), package size 24 kB, installed size 104 kB
[06:41] <abattoir> LouKall: you'd need to put \ in front of spaces...
[06:42] <LouKall> abattoir: okay, shanks.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[06:42] <AWOSDev> I didn't realise I have to 'apt-get update' *blush*
[06:42] <frojnd> hello one probelm
[06:42] <frojnd> It doesn't wanna open .ace file
[06:42] <NeoSaki> !ace
[06:43] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:43] <frojnd> Error opening file Summoning-LetMortalHeroesSingYourFame.ace
[06:43] <gavin> what about
[06:43] <NeoSaki> Frojnd: does it state anything else?
[06:43] <frojnd> yes
[06:43] <frojnd> UNACE v1.2    public version
[06:44] <ketsugi> After adding a filetype handler, I've been getting this error from some KDE apps (Konqueror, Kate, Kmail and Kpdf so far): "Could not find mime type: application/octet-stream"
[06:44] <LouKall> abattoir: this sucks. hah.
[06:44] <frojnd> NeoSaki I don't understand this line: sudo mv /location/of/downloaded/unace /usr/bin/unace
[06:44] <abattoir> ketsugi: which one did you add? and when does this occur(or what are you trying to open)?
[06:45] <AWOSDev> The following NEW packages will be installed: hexedit
[06:45] <AWOSDev> Selecting previously deselected package hexedit.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> AWOSDev,  :P and what did you say earlier about ubuntu sucking?> :P lol.
[06:45] <AWOSDev> I didnt?!
[06:45] <AWOSDev> All I said was it isn't the best Linux, but alot easier to install and use than Debian.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> AWOSDev I'm on Ubuntu, not real Debian   --> :) ok you sort of slammed ubuntu .
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:46] <ketsugi> abattoir: I added a handler for x-comic (.cbr and .cbz; I made up the mimetype myself)
[06:46] <halfbloodprince> I'm SOOO loving Kubuntu!
[06:46] <ketsugi> and it happens whenever I /open/ kpdf or kmail or konqueror
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> apt-get  should be identical to debian's ussage. :P
[06:46] <halfbloodprince> hey, ketsugi :)
[06:46] <AWOSDev> :P
[06:46] <ketsugi> hbp: yes yes, I'm going to sleep soon ;p
[06:46] <gavin> Am new to Linux (Ubuntu6.06)  Any help on Firefox with problem add plugin for Macromedia player?
[06:46] <halfbloodprince> ketsugi: i'm using kubuntu right now
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> I cant see much reason to use debian really.  over ubuntu..  at least nothing that my needs demand.
[06:47] <ketsugi> Good for you :)
[06:47] <NeoSaki> frojnd: where did you see that line at?
[06:47] <AWOSDev> gavin, just click on the 'Install Missing Plugins' bar at the top of the page.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> im sure theres some off the wall reasons. :P heh heh
[06:47] <AWOSDev> gavin, at least that's what *I* did :)
[06:47] <lupine_85> Debian can be more up-to-date :)
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[06:47] <ketsugi> abattoir: any ideas? is there a proper mime type I should have used?
[06:48] <abattoir> ketsugi: hmm one sec.. dont see why it shouldnt work...
[06:48] <frojnd> NeoSaki: Archive formats -> 2. ace
[06:48] <gavin> AWOSDev : but it fails for me... giving an option to manual install
[06:48] <frojnd> on the right u have tree
[06:48] <abattoir> ketsugi: unless you added kmail/kpdf as apps for that mimetype
[06:48] <halfbloodprince> ketsugi: you mean you came up with an application to read comic files?
[06:48] <halfbloodprince> wow
[06:48] <halfbloodprince> i could use that
[06:48] <dein_> yay
[06:48] <abattoir> !flash > gavin
[06:48] <dein_> im able to talk on irc again
[06:48] <ketsugi> abattoir: nope, I used qcomicbook
[06:48] <halfbloodprince> hey dein!
[06:48] <dein_> hey halfblood
[06:48] <halfbloodprince> guess who's on kubuntu
[06:48] <_bender_> 0_o a converty?
[06:49] <halfbloodprince> yeah
[06:49] <_bender_> Ah same same, week and going
[06:49] <gavin> !flash
[06:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:49] <ketsugi> abattoir: I don't think this should be happening, but I can't figure out why
[06:49] <abattoir> ketsugi: hmm..i'm not sure.. i could try replicating what you did... but i'm currently compiling something :P
[06:50] <abattoir> ketsugi: so it happens only for kpdf and kmail right?
[06:50] <dein_> the pope? :s
[06:50] <dein_>  guh lag
[06:50] <dein_> my connection is lagging so bad ><
[06:50] <frojnd> I come to conclusion about the problem unace can't open the file. Is it possilble that file isn't .ace despite the characters of the name are ...ace If it's how can I scan to see what format is ?
[06:51] <_bender_> !irssi
[06:51] <ubotu> IRSSI is a command line interface IRC application ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> frojnd,  i fgured ya checked that first thing. :P
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> file whteverrfile
[06:51] <ketsugi> abattoir: and Konqueror, and Kate, and, I suspect, just about any KDE application
[06:51] <AWOSDev> I just wrote a new MBR to my 2nd disk (that's why I needed dd 512bytes and hexedit)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> or vi whateverfile and look at the  header/first line.
[06:52] <AWOSDev> Now let's hope I didn't kill it!
[06:52] <abattoir> ketsugi: ok, try deleting it... do the errors go away?
[06:52] <NeoSaki> Any help on setting up a Deskjet F340? It is supposedly supported by SANE
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> AWOSDev,  why did you need to do that? :P
[06:52] <abattoir> ketsugi: btw, i'd expect the app to add its own mimetype...
[06:52] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis, I made my XP drive dynamic, and I just converted it back to basic.
[06:52] <AWOSDev> change one byte in the MBR and tada
[06:52] <ketsugi> yeah it didn't
[06:53] <ketsugi> because cbz and cbr are just renamed zip and rar files, I suppose
[06:53] <abattoir> ketsugi: you might need to restart KDE
[06:53] <ketsugi> oh?
[06:53] <abattoir> ketsugi: aah, you mean for the app
[06:53] <abattoir> ketsugi: i thought you said the errors didnt go away
[06:53] <ketsugi> Konqueror still gives me the error after removing the mimetype
[06:53] <halfbloodprince> my connection speed is actually better than it ever was in windows
[06:53] <halfbloodprince> :\
[06:53] <frojnd> Dr_Willis: do u mean serious to go in vi for information about .ace file?
[06:53] <ketsugi> they don't
[06:54] <ketsugi> I get at least one error every time I open up any of the above-mentioned apps
[06:54] <frojnd> it wont happened nothing..
[06:54] <AWOSDev> Do I need to reboot to make the MBR change go in to effect?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> frojnd,  to look at it..
[06:54] <frojnd> ok..
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> frojnd,  or that file command may tell ya somthing
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> It could bne some Screwy .html file for all ya know
[06:55] <frojnd> I did it : vi name.ace
[06:55] <lecci> when i can find the cc packet?
[06:55] <frojnd> nothing happened
[06:55] <lecci> where i can find the cc packet?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> frojnd,  you sure the file even has any data in it? :P
[06:55] <frojnd> yes
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> cc package you mean  lecci ?
[06:55] <frojnd> couse it's about 100mb
[06:55] <frojnd> I am positive
[06:55] <lecci> yes
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> frojnd,  try 'file whatever.ace' yet?
[06:55] <fildo> frojnd: in the bin ?
[06:55] <AWOSDev> !gcc > lecci
[06:56] <frojnd> fildo frojnd: in the bin ? don't get it
[06:56] <fildo> i mean leccil in the bin
[06:56] <fildo> :p
[06:56] <fildo> soz
[06:56] <fildo> ok its bed time
[06:56] <fildo> peace out ppls
[06:56] <frojnd> Summoning-LetMortalHeroesSingYourFame.ace: ACE compressed archive version 20, from Win/32, version 20 to extract, contains AV-String (unregistered), with recovery record, solid
[06:56] <AWOSDev> G'night fildo.
[06:57] <frojnd> Dr_Willis: it is .ace file
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> and its even 'solid' ! :P
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> whatver that means
[06:57] <frojnd> :D
[06:57] <frojnd> it means that it contains no bad files
[06:57] <frojnd> or sth.. imo
[06:57] <gavin> AWOSDev : thanks for the info....
[06:58] <frojnd> h
[06:58] <frojnd> m
[06:58] <gavin> AWOSDev : am trying out on how to key in those commands :)
[06:58] <frojnd> question for one mio 
[06:58] <AWOSDev> gavin, you're welcome.
[06:58] <frojnd> how can i extract .ace file wit an unace ?
[06:58] <NeoSaki> !sane
[06:58] <frojnd> with*
[06:58] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (dapper), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> frojnd,  i would say go get a windows version of ace. anduse wine
[06:58] <Vanique> Hi
[06:59] <halfbloodprince> ok, i see these icons on the desktop.. which say 15G media, etc..
[06:59] <AWOSDev> Yeah, SANE is for scanners.  For your DeskJet, do you mean CUPS?
[06:59] <halfbloodprince> how do i change that to whatever i wnat
[06:59] <Vanique> i'mm looking for some master who can deal with /bin/sh: line 1: 7037 Segmentation fault /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt
[06:59] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis, it was worth going through all that.
[07:00] <AWOSDev> NAMERICA1:/media/hdb2$ ls
[07:00] <AWOSDev> DOS Drive (D)  Recycled         System Volume Information
[07:00] <AWOSDev> Yay!
[07:00] <AWOSDev> It actually read the Dynamic Disk!
[07:00] <Vanique> it shows always when i want to install Wine ro Amarok and it causes that that programs dont work
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> AWOSDev,  ive never even heard of a 'dynamic disk' befor. :P
[07:01] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis, it's a freaky Microsoft thing.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Freeky Deeky!
[07:01] <AWOSDev> Dr_Willis, it basically makes a software RAID.  But I never got around to doing that.  So here is 5GB of data that I can't access on Linux (which is now all I have on here)
[07:02] <visik7> anyone with an asus V6 laptop ?
[07:02] <AWOSDev> :P
[07:02] <NeoSaki> ooo
[07:02] <NeoSaki> so entertaining to see a windows app in linux
[07:02] <AWOSDev> It's even more entertaining when it works :P
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> wine winrar.exe
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> works :)
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> and if you try 'wine mirc.exe' your computer will explode.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> its in the mIRC eula.
[07:03] <draik> Dr_Willis, I have most of my setup back to the way I had it before
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:04] <draik> Thank you for your help Dr_Willis
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> after ALL that time. :P
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> lol
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> draik,  look up 'mondo/mindi' for a backup/restore system-tools :P
[07:05] <draik> will  do
[07:05] <draik> thank you
[07:05] <AWOSDev> That's funny, I found a folder called "Honkin huge files from laptop" the only content: a Virtual Machine from VMware.  Size: ~3GB :P
[07:06] <lecci> help me: Where i can istall the cc package?
[07:06] <lecci> help me: How i can istall the cc package?
[07:06] <buz> lecci: apt-get install build-essentials
[07:06] <draik> !mondo
[07:06] <ubotu> mondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.06-1 (dapper), package size 462 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[07:06] <buz> sduo apt-get
[07:06] <buz> sudo
[07:07] <noob> rehi. hmm does anyone know the command to 'reconfigure' the xserver? (e.g. gfx-card, display, etc)
[07:07] <draik> installed, thank you Dr_Willis
[07:07] <abattoir> noob: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:08] <lecci> impossible find build-essentials...
[07:08] <noob> thank you abattoir :)
[07:08] <buz> sorry, it's build-essential - informational list of build-essential packages
[07:08] <draik> lecci, without the s
[07:08] <buz> no s at the end
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[07:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:08] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> it helps to spell things right. :P and learn to use 'apt-cache search'
[07:09] <lecci> impossible find build-essential...
[07:09] <abattoir> ketsugi: in Kcontrol/systemsettings->Kde components->File associations... could you check if everything looks right?
[07:09] <AWOSDev> The whole audience gasps as lecci's Kubuntu cannot find build-essential
[07:11] <AWOSDev> lecci, what kind of Kubuntu are you running?  6.06 LTS Dapper right?
[07:11] <buz> AWOSDev: build-essential has been there since forever
[07:11] <draik> What is the command to see everything that has been installed through apt?
[07:11] <AWOSDev> Okay thanks buz
[07:11] <draik> I forgot the command
[07:11] <buz> dpkg --list
[07:11] <AWOSDev> draik, good question I've been looking for that too
[07:11] <buz> then maybe some filtering
[07:11] <draik> Thank you buz
[07:12] <AWOSDev> Oooh look at *all* the installs I've done :P
[07:12] <lecci> 6.06 yes
[07:12] <AWOSDev> yeah, I usually use grep
[07:12] <abattoir> ketsugi: if everything there looks to be in order, then /usr/share/mimelnk/application/octet-stream.desktop might be corrupted
[07:12] <buz> well it's actually also the ones that kubuntu did itself ;)
[07:12] <AWOSDev> dpkg --list | grep whatever
[07:12] <abattoir> ketsugi: its a part of kdelibs-data
[07:12] <AWOSDev> Yeah I know that buz
[07:13] <AWOSDev> I'm trying to figure out why I have ATI, Cyrix, NVIDIA etc... X servers installed
[07:13] <buz> (it's kinda obvious that you didnt install libc yourself after all ;)
[07:13] <AWOSDev> I just have a simple Intel i810-DC100
[07:13] <buz> mhh the open source ones are all installed by default
[07:13] <leileilol> weird
[07:13] <buz> which is handy if you switch a drive from one machine to another
[07:13] <AWOSDev> Yeah I guess
[07:13] <leileilol> i tried kqemu with qemu, and win95/98 gives protection errors and no dos games start :S
[07:14] <draik> I just wanted that list so that I can compare it to another one (previous install)
[07:14] <buz> you might have to run dpkg-reconfigure but other than it runs
[07:14] <draik> now I can just      diff file1 file2
[07:14] <AWOSDev> Even VMware display driver :P
[07:14] <DexterF> 'evening
[07:15] <noob> re
[07:15] <AWOSDev> Good evening DexterF
[07:15] <DexterF> laptop with a marvell chip wifi card
[07:15] <DexterF> how do I get it working?
[07:15] <AWOSDev> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:15] <AWOSDev> don't make me relive the horror of WiFi
[07:15] <AWOSDev> !!!!!!!!!
[07:16] <AWOSDev> To this day I still can't disable my integrated LAN without it taking the WiFi with it.
[07:16] <buz> AWOSDev: works with my centrino laptop
[07:16] <DexterF> precisely marvell 88w8335
[07:16] <BluesKaj> Bummer ...I have program DL'd but I can't get to work ...the docs are in my file but it's not installed on the system WTF ?
[07:17] <AWOSDev> Well yeah Centrino is a well know thingy
[07:17] <AWOSDev> Can I convert MSSQL to MySQL without running Windows?
[07:17] <noob> could anybody give advice? I wanted to try out the xgl xorg replacement .. x stopped working .. well .. I reinstalled old xserver-xorg and reconfigured it .. but still no x. .. what could I do. (and yes I know that it wasn't a genius thing to do at the first place..)
[07:17] <DexterF> AWOSDev: heh, I know your pain :) I'd never run wifi myself, but friend hit the place with his lappy and since I successfully talked him into giving kubuntu a shot I felt like I need to go the full 9 yrads now
[07:18] <AWOSDev> DexterF, ahhh
[07:18] <BluesKaj> I just know I'm missing some command but i can't recall what it is  for installing tar.bz2 files
[07:18] <AWOSDev> !xgl
[07:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:18] <AWOSDev> No that wasn't what I wanted ubotu
[07:18] <AWOSDev> Oh yes it is
[07:18] <BluesKaj> !tar.bz2
[07:18] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:18] <draik> hmmm
[07:18] <AWOSDev> Noob, go to #ubuntu-xgl
[07:18] <noob> okay
[07:18] <noob> thanks
[07:18] <Vegeta^> Is it just me, or is KDE just slower than GNOME desktop?
[07:18] <AWOSDev> No problem
[07:18] <draik> buz, is there another way of getting the output of dpkg --list?
[07:18] <buz> draik: what do you mean
[07:19] <BluesKaj> I don't caree about opening , I care about installing !
[07:19] <NeoSaki> Vegeta^: I don't notice a slowness?
[07:19] <AWOSDev> Vegeta^, personally I feel GNOME is slower, even on a P4 1.6GHz
[07:19] <draik> one sec....
[07:19] <AWOSDev> BlueKaj, try this:
[07:19] <buz> AWOSDev: personally, i think kde could be faster than what it is on my 1.6ghz centrino ;)
[07:19] <AWOSDev> BlueKaj         bunzip whatever.tar.bz2
[07:19] <AWOSDev> BlueKaj         tar -xf whatever.tar
[07:19] <Vegeta^> AWOSDev: I also have a 1.6 but it's feels slower in KDE, like opening of applications and so one...?
[07:19] <buz> (i wouldnt care if gnome was ten times as fast, cant stand the gui)
[07:19] <AWOSDev> BlueKaj         cd whatever
[07:20] <DexterF> anyone got general directions for wifi setup? seems ndsiwrapper is called for, never did that tho
[07:20] <draik> !paste
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:20] <buz> !wifi
[07:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:20] <Vegeta^> buz: hehe yeah, KDE is just cooler.. =)
[07:20] <AWOSDev> Vegeta^ -- yeah they're about even
[07:20] <AWOSDev> buz: Yeah it's amazing this 1.6GHz is about even (literally) with my 500MHz Celeron
[07:21] <buz> i'm lusting after a core 2 duo
[07:21] <buz> another core entirely oughta help
[07:21] <AWOSDev> BlueKaj --- then you just ./configure and then make
[07:21] <Vegeta^> AWOSDev: In KDE?
[07:21] <AWOSDev> BlueKaj you might also have to *make install*
[07:21] <buz> but decent core 2 duo are 1500EUR and more
[07:21] <AWOSDev> Vegeta^ -- Yes, in KDE they are about similar
[07:21] <AWOSDev> buz, yeah they are WAY expensive, but like all technology it'll come down
[07:22] <buz> well the macbooks are quite affordable but badly built
[07:22] <AWOSDev> buz, I remember paying almost $2000 for a Pentium/166 with 24MB and a 'huge' 3GB hard disk
[07:22] <AWOSDev> :P
[07:22] <draik> buz, here's the style I was looking for http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23232  not this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23231
[07:22] <AWOSDev> So it'll come down :)
[07:22] <buz> i remember paying 3000EUR for a 486DX2
[07:23] <BluesKaj> No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[07:23] <AWOSDev> How about $3000US for an 8088 with a 'super fast' 7MHz processor and a 'very large' 20MB hard disk.  Even had a memory upgrade: 512KB to 640KB :P
[07:23] <AWOSDev> BluesKaj, what are you trying to setup?
[07:24] <buz> the first ibm pc was before my birth ;)
[07:24] <AWOSDev> Nah, the *first* IBM was a PS/1
[07:24] <BluesKaj> devede23, AWOSDev
[07:25] <BluesKaj> i have the depencies installed
[07:25] <buz> draik: no idea how to get that
[07:25] <abattoir> BluesKaj: are you trying to install the same thing?( the one where you pastebinned the dir. structure)?
[07:25] <draik> ok, thanks buz
[07:25] <halfbloodprince> i've got mp3s working :D
[07:26] <BluesKaj> but the tar file itself seems to run but there's no run file or icon in the kicker
[07:26] <AWOSDev> buz, look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC
[07:26] <AWOSDev> buz, that's an old PC
[07:26] <_earl> hi
[07:26] <buz> yeah iknow
[07:26] <buz> its slightly older than i am
[07:26] <BluesKaj>  yeah AWOSDev, the pasrebin thing
[07:26] <[GuS] > People... i have a question... i've replaced my PATA disk for a SATA (with Kubuntu OS installed of course).. so i changed in the grub boot list, the hda entry for sda... but.. when i install a new kernel, the installation sets again to hda... how to fix this?
[07:26] <AWOSDev> buz, yeah me too
[07:27] <AWOSDev> BluseKaj, the pastebin?
[07:27] <NeoSaki> Anyone here have the HP 340F aio printer installed?
[07:27] <BluesKaj> funny how some stuf just installs np, and other stuff just sits there like it's installed but ya can't run it
[07:27] <AWOSDev> BluesKaj, what do you mean pastebin?  What are you talking about?
[07:27] <osh_> !pastebin
[07:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:27] <BluesKaj> nevermind
[07:28] <AWOSDev> I know what the pastebin is, osh_
[07:28] <AWOSDev> :)
[07:29] <NthDegree> :|
[07:29] <osh_> AWOSDev: Hmm, that's what happens when you (me) jump into a discussion...
[07:29] <osh_> in the middle of it.
[07:29] <NthDegree> did AWOSDev call someone a noob earlier
[07:29] <NthDegree> didn't*
[07:29] <NeoSaki> !hplip
[07:29] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[07:29] <AWOSDev> No, NthDegree, that was his *name*
[07:29] <AWOSDev> !seen noob
[07:30] <ubotu> noob is on IRC right now!
[07:30] <NthDegree> oh ROFL
[07:30] <BluesKaj> AWOSDev,  http://pastebin.ca/168063 ...this shows what it does when i use the tar xvjf command
[07:30] <NthDegree> !source-o-matic > NthDegree
[07:30] <BluesKaj> but it doesn't install anywhere
[07:31] <AWOSDev> Ah yes, BlueKaj, try ./install.sh
[07:31] <halfbloodprince> does anyone know how i can enable all tht stuff in amarok? wikipedia, automatic cd covers, etc?
[07:32] <Electrolyte> Is there any way to tell a process to run in a higher priority when it's run? I want to set artsplay to nice -10, but I don't know how to when it's launched automatically.
[07:32] <Electrolyte> As in, when a sound is played (so it's launched) it'll be set to a nice settings of -10.
[07:33] <Electrolyte> If it's possible that is.
[07:33] <AWOSDev> BluesKaj, did ./install.sh work?
[07:33] <AWOSDev> BluesKaj, type whereis devede ?
[07:33] <BluesKaj> nope
[07:33] <AWOSDev> Why should NthDegree kick noob?
[07:34] <NthDegree> because that name is so annoying
[07:34] <nixbox> hi all
[07:34] <AWOSDev> :P that was fun
[07:34] <nixbox> i am trying to install kubuntu on a Dell latitude
[07:34] <NthDegree> how do we know noob != linus torvalds or something XD
[07:34] <AWOSDev> "whereis anything" -- cannot find anything   :P
[07:34] <BluesKaj> nothing shows , just the name , AWOSDev
[07:34] <cox377> i know this isnt the sorta thing to be asked in this place, but as you lot are pretty clued up i was wondering if anyone knows if it would be possible to use a wireless access point that has a USB port as a device like a USB dongle, so use it to look for networks as well are being one
[07:34] <AWOSDev> BluesKaj, well I have to go but I'll be back, okay?
[07:34] <nixbox> when i boot from the cd, my touchpad doesn't work, i mean when i try to move the pointer, it does move a lil but then comes back to the kde start button, how do i fix that?
[07:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[07:35] <NthDegree> nixbox, duh that's a live CD
[07:35] <NthDegree> nixbox, once it's on your hard disk then you can fix it
[07:35] <nixbox> NthDegree, i know its a live cd, but can't i fix it somehow? :P
[07:35] <nixbox> NthDegree, when i first booted, it worked correctly, but now its not.
[07:36] <NthDegree> nixbox, just install ubuntu to your PC
[07:36] <nixbox> NthDegree, no i need to install it on a laptop
[07:36] <NthDegree> then once you've fixed it the fix will be permanent
[07:36] <nixbox> NthDegree, lol
[07:36] <lupine_85> nixbox: probably best to make sure that it's fixable first!
[07:37] <NthDegree> nixbox, laptop == PC
[07:37] <nixbox> NthDegree, i understand that much
[07:37] <lupine_85> however, I've no idea how you'd go about doing it :(
[07:37] <Infecto> !=
[07:37] <Infecto> ;] 
[07:37] <Vegeta^> Why is it, that when I open an application, even after the app. is ready and oppened, it still says "Loading application" on the menu for (long!) while?
[07:38] <NthDegree> Vegeta^: when you run an admin app it does that because you effectively run 2 apps
[07:38] <lupine_85> Vegeta^: because the taskbar doesn't know whether the program is loaded/loading or not
[07:38] <NthDegree> Vegeta^: admin apps run kdesu 1st
[07:38] <lupine_85> the "loading.." box is just for show
[07:38] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: the sound quality on amarok is awesome!!
[07:38] <Vegeta^> NthDegree: Firefox an admin app? :S
[07:39] <lupine_85> you can customise the time it stays up in System Settings
[07:39] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince: I know :)
[07:39] <NthDegree> Vegeta^: that's because that isn't a KDE app
[07:39] <Vegeta^> lupine_85: I think that must a reasonable explanation
[07:40] <Vegeta^> lupine_85: Do you know where exactly in system settings?
[07:40] <Gerrit_> hi
[07:40] <ninHer> hi all
[07:40] <lupine_85> Panel->Taskbar->Feedback
[07:40] <lupine_85> erm, launch feedback
[07:41] <nixbox> if i dont have the mouse working, when i go to the manually edit partition table part of the setup, i can't use tab to move around in the GUI, any idea how can i do that?
[07:41] <NthDegree> lupine_85: launch feedback isn't the bit in the taskbar AFAIK
[07:41] <Drako> Can anyone tell me how to get Home shortcuts and trashbin and stuf on the desktop?
[07:41] <graft> the problem with amarok is, you start to realize how badly encoded some of your mp3s actually are, because you can actually hear the difference
[07:41] <NthDegree> that is only the bouncing icon of it
[07:41] <lupine_85> Taskbar notificiation
[07:41] <lupine_85> "Enable taskbar notification" tickbox...
[07:41] <lupine_85> seems like a no-brainer to me ;)
[07:41] <NthDegree> lol
[07:42] <NthDegree> oh i thought you said launch feedback
[07:42] <NthDegree> on the menu editor theres an enable launch feedback which means the bouncing icon
[07:42] <graft> nixbox - tab around?
[07:42] <Alextremo> im back
[07:42] <graft> nixbox: oh... no tab... what gui is this?
[07:42] <lupine_85> erm, I did :)
[07:43] <nixbox> graft, on the previous screens, such as time zone selection etc. i could use tab, but its not working on the partition editing
[07:43] <lupine_85> Launch Feedback is the tab, which loads up the panel with two panels
[07:43] <nixbox> graft, kubuntu setup
[07:43] <graft> nixbox: why are you trying to use gnome without a mouse?
[07:43] <graft> err, kde, without a mouse?
[07:43] <nixbox> graft, mouse is sticking to a corner, whenever i try to move the mouse, it goes back to the KDE start button
[07:43] <Gerrit_> drako: is anybody helping you already?
[07:44] <graft> nixbox, it's not setup properly... you have the wrong mouse driver set
[07:44] <graft> what kind of mouse do you have?
[07:44] <Alextremo> sorry, (i talk spanish).... what is sticking ?????
[07:44] <halfbloodprince> man, i cant connect to gaim using my msn passport
[07:44] <nixbox> graft, optical 3-button mouse, its a live cd, so how do i fix the mouse issue?
[07:44] <nixbox> graft, usb mouse
[07:44] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince: use kopete instead
[07:44] <graft> nixbox: um, what mouse driver did you choose?
[07:44] <lupine_85> you're in kubuntu after all :)
[07:44] <nixbox> graft, it didnt ask me for one
[07:45] <nixbox> graft, i just connected the mouse, the same thing was happening with touchpad
[07:45] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: you mean you can't connect to MSN through GAIM
[07:45] <graft> nixbox: um. well, you could just not connect the mouse, and then tabs should work
[07:45] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: try changing the MSN server settings :)
[07:45] <lupine_85> gaim--
[07:45] <halfbloodprince> how do i do tht?
[07:45] <nixbox> NthDegree, i had tried tabs without a mouse :(
[07:45] <graft> halfbloodprince: some really good hacking
[07:45] <halfbloodprince> haha
[07:46] <graft> halfbloodprince: or more likely, some trivial hacking
[07:46] <nixbox> graft, tried tabs without a mouse
[07:46] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: this is the kubuntu channel, so less people are likely to know in here
[07:46] <halfbloodprince> ok sorry
[07:46] <nixbox> graft, doesn't work, the partition selection gui has some graphics at the top, i dont know if thats the problem with tabs
[07:46] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: use Kopete for KDE ;-)
[07:46] <graft> that's not true, halfbloodprince ... plenty of people here use gaim
[07:46] <halfbloodprince> NthDegree: Kopete isn't being very nice as far as file transfers are concerned
[07:46] <NthDegree> graft: you traitor :p
[07:47] <graft> NthDegree: you purist
[07:47] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: because you need to portforward
[07:47] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: saim will be with GAIM
[07:47] <NthDegree> same*
[07:47] <halfbloodprince> portforward?
[07:47] <lupine_85> I just really dislike gaim. it's fugly
[07:47] <lupine_85> NthDegree: not on ISDN he won't
[07:48] <lupine_85> that's only the the over-natted broadband public
[07:48] <graft> nixbox: um... hrm, usually if you don't have a mouse you can move the cursor with some weird num-key-pad sort of thingy... right?
[07:48] <nixbox> graft, how?
[07:48] <nixbox> graft, i am using a laptop
[07:49] <graft> hrm... do you have a diff. mouse? or a built-in mouse?
[07:49] <NthDegree> lupine_85: I used to have 3 firewalls on Windows
[07:49] <lupine_85> shudder
[07:50] <NthDegree> lupine_85: I now have 1 SPI+NAT Hardware Firewall
[07:50] <lupine_85> I've got an SBC that does something similar
[07:50] <graft> SPI?
[07:50] <lupine_85> Stateful Packet Inspection
[07:50] <NthDegree> damn said it b4 me
[07:50] <lupine_85> only one NATed PC though, and that can send<->receive fine using the MSN network
[07:50] <lupine_85> no port forwarding
[07:51] <NthDegree> same here
[07:51] <NthDegree> via UDP traversal
[07:51] <lupine_85> no idea what they use
[07:51] <graft> huh, neat
[07:51] <NthDegree> UDP Traversal is the Windows way to get through NATed firewalls
[07:51] <visik7> Msn is down
[07:51] <NthDegree> visik7: i'll check
[07:51] <halfbloodprince> looks like i'm going to have to install yahoo messenger for linux
[07:52] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: use Kopete and MSN
[07:52] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: Yahoo has sucky File Transfers
[07:52] <BluesKaj> what not thunderbird?
[07:52] <NthDegree> halfbloodprince: since they *NEED* to be direct
[07:52] <Ayabara> is kopete to prefer over gaim?
[07:53] <halfbloodprince> kopete is fucking up my msn transfers too
[07:53] <halfbloodprince> pardon the language
[07:53] <halfbloodprince> how is amsn
[07:53] <Gerrit_> Ayabara: of course ;)
[07:53] <BluesKaj> aMSN works fine , kopete is PITA to setup
[07:53] <NthDegree> ZOMG
[07:53] <Ayabara> Gerrit_: I forgot kopete when I moved from ubuntu to kubuntu :-)
[07:53] <NthDegree> it's as easy as any other is
[07:53] <main2> BluesKaj: Amsn is ok =)
[07:53] <NthDegree> unless you are one of the many GNOME users Linus Torvalds refers to :p
[07:53] <habakkuk> NthDegree: no point, will reinstall all system
[07:53] <main2> kopete is annoying
[07:53] <NthDegree> habakkuk: kk
[07:54] <lupine_85> kopete+=
[07:54] <lupine_85> erm, ++
[07:54] <habakkuk> NthDegree: will you be there arount 1-2 am ?
[07:54] <habakkuk> :P
[07:54] <NthDegree> kopete >= GAIM
[07:54] <NthDegree> habakkuk: probably
[07:54] <habakkuk> good boy
[07:54] <habakkuk> :)
[07:54] <habakkuk> see ya then
[07:54] <NthDegree> lol
[07:54] <NthDegree> cya soon
[07:55] <DeadS0ul> nixbox: you got your mouse working yet?
[07:55] <BluesKaj> ok gents, what am i doing wrong ...I tried to install "devede23.tar.bz2" using the tar xvjf command but i can't find where it installed if it did at all ?
[07:56] <visik7> on gaim and kopete msn is down
[07:56] <lupine_85> kopete > gaim, full stop :)
[07:56] <visik7> with other seems to be ok
[07:56] <DeadS0ul> BluesKaj: that decompresses the tar file, it's probably in it's own dir
[07:56] <seb__> Hello all.
[07:56] <BluesKaj> the extracted files are in my Home dir but there's no way of making the file run
[07:56] <DeadS0ul> what do you mean, make the file run?
[07:57] <BluesKaj> open , run ...do it it's thing .
[07:57] <seb__> Where can I find recent packages for KUbuntu? I have the lastest beta. Polyester, Kopete, KTorrent... All are old packages !
[07:57] <visik7> with http works
[07:57] <visik7> but kopete and http msn sucks
[07:58] <BluesKaj> capiche , DeadS0ul ?
[07:58] <graft> hmm, kopete has evolved considerably since last i tried it
[07:58] <visik7> non -http connection doesn't work
[07:58] <seb__> Yes, but how to install the lastest Kopete version ?
[07:58] <DeadS0ul> seb__: you using kubuntu I assume, silly question but meh
[07:59] <seb__> Yes
[07:59] <seb__> The lastest beta
[07:59] <abattoir> seb__: what do you mean you have the 'latest beta'...?
[07:59] <Gerrit_> is there a sip-integration planned for kopete?
[07:59] <DeadS0ul> seb__: type in apt-get udpate && apt-get upgrade in console and you shoudl get the latest versions
[07:59] <DeadS0ul> seb__: if you want 3.5.4 you gotta update your sources list
[07:59] <seb__> Hum... The version of Kubuntu that is not released yet. Don't remember the name
[07:59] <abattoir> seb__: edgy?
[07:59] <DeadS0ul> BluesKaj: do you know bout permissios in linux?
[08:00] <seb__> abattoir: that's possible. Will look on the website
[08:00] <abattoir> seb__: or lsb_release -a should tell you
[08:00] <lecci> where is the option about the bootloader??
[08:00] <seb__> abattoir: thanks. 6.06 dapper! Ah... I tought I downloaded the beta.......
[08:01] <lecci> where is the option about the bootloader??
[08:01] <abattoir> seb__: if you are on edgy, and have the 'latest beta', then you already should have current versions of those packages
[08:01] <abattoir> aah ok
[08:01] <Ayabara> I have a CNet blutooth dongle. any chance of making that one work in kubuntu?
[08:01] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: yeah just plug it in and load the module
[08:01] <seb__> abattoir: I'm not on edgy. How do I setup things to get the latest versions of KDE apps ?
[08:02] <Ash-Fox> Does anyone know how to pass sound from one computer to another? (I've setup some old pentium 3's to behave as dumb terminals to one of my servers [ssh tunneling with xorg] , basically I want sound on the dumb terminals)
[08:02] <seb__> abattoir: apt-get update : E: operation invalid.
[08:02] <abattoir> seb__: first enable the universe and multiverse repository...
[08:02] <seb__> ?
[08:02] <abattoir> !universe
[08:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:03] <seb__> I'm new to KUbuntu, so how should I enable those parallel universes ? ;-)
[08:03] <abattoir> seb__: then do 'sudo apt-get update' first, then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[08:03] <halfbloodprince> how do i install amsn
[08:03] <abattoir> seb__: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:03] <halfbloodprince> adept?
[08:03] <Ash-Fox> !easysource > seb__
[08:03] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: sudo apt-get install amsn
[08:03] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: or yes, adept
[08:03] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: by now you shouldnt be asking these questions ;)
[08:03] <halfbloodprince> hehe
[08:03] <halfbloodprince> yes
[08:03] <seb__> thanks
[08:04] <halfbloodprince> kubuntu is so damn fast
[08:04] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: why do you want amsn? kopete doesnt work?
[08:04] <DeadS0ul> Ash-Fox: there is a 'network audio system' backend you can look up, I dunno much about it but I think it does what you want
[08:04] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: load the module?
[08:04] <seb__> And why is it so complicated? Install KUbuntu, then easy ubuntu, then easysource...... Is there anything else to do after that ?
[08:04] <halfbloodprince> kopete is giving me a problem with file transfers
[08:04] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: yeah the kernel module/driver
[08:04] <BluesKaj> ok so what is the execute file cmd , to make the prog  work ?
[08:05] <abattoir> seb__: aah, you already used easy ubuntu?
[08:05] <lecci> where is the option about the bootloader?????
[08:05] <Ash-Fox> seb__, it's complicated because of patents issues. MAke sure the country you're in allows you to use unlicensed mp3 decoders etc (Don't think it's legal in the states?)
[08:05] <abattoir> seb__: then 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' should be enough
[08:05] <halfbloodprince> does adept take some time to load
[08:05] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: ok. it's the first thing I plug in that doesn't "just work" :-)
[08:06] <seb__> abattoir: Hum... sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     installed nothing
[08:06] <abattoir> seb__: did you run sudo apt-get update first?
[08:06] <graft> err... so does kopete have logs of conversations?
[08:06] <seb__> yes
[08:06] <DeadS0ul> that would work if you have um..what's it called
[08:07] <abattoir> seb__: ok, make sure you have dapper-updates enabled...
[08:07] <DeadS0ul> crap i haven't used linux in 2 months, i'm a bit outta it
[08:07] <BluesKaj> abattoir, what's the install cmd after tar xvjf on tarball pkgs ?
[08:07] <abattoir> !repos > seb__
[08:07] <abattoir> BluesKaj: mostly it is ./configure make and sudo make install
[08:07] <DeadS0ul> hotplug scripts!
[08:07] <abattoir> BluesKaj: but it depends on the package
[08:07] <BluesKaj> tar.bz2
[08:07] <abattoir> BluesKaj: its usually mentioned in README or INSTALL inside the archive
[08:08] <abattoir> BluesKaj: i meant, it depends on the software...
[08:08] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: it's asking me to run apt-get -f install
[08:08] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: what is?
[08:08] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: how can I find the driver for a thing like this bluetooth dongle? is it in the repos?
[08:08] <DeadS0ul> abattoir: that'll happen if an install hasn't completed
[08:08] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: it comes with your kernel
[08:09] <DeadS0ul> should really be there
[08:09] <abattoir> DeadS0ul: yes, i know :)
[08:09] <seb__> Adept does not list the universe sources !
[08:09] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: i typed sudo apt-get install amsn in konsole, and it's asking me to try apt-get -f install
[08:09] <seb__> There are a lot of "#comment", but no universe
[08:09] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: ok, do 'sudo apt-get install -f' then
[08:09] <seb__> Can I enable EVERYTHING ?
[08:09] <abattoir> seb__: hmmm you used easysource right...
[08:09] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: ahh. then how do I load it once I'm plugged in?
[08:09] <bene1> Hi! Where can i configure the time until my laptop goes to sleep when on battery?
[08:09] <abattoir> seb__: should be enabled if you chose it
[08:10] <DeadS0ul> modprobe <kernel module name>
[08:10] <seb__> abattoir: Oups. I'm sorry. I've done things in the wrong order!
[08:10] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: one sec, Lemme look somehting up again
[08:11] <riri> hi imbrandon
[08:11] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23234
[08:11] <BluesKaj>  /configure: No such file or directory !!! WTF?
[08:11] <riri> here imbrandon ?
[08:11] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: do you know if you have udev installed?
[08:11] <abattoir> BluesKaj: is it the same one as you pastebin'd ?
[08:12] <BluesKaj> yeah
[08:12] <abattoir> BluesKaj: if so, i remember seeing an install.sh
[08:12] <abattoir> BluesKaj: try 'sh ./install.sh'
[08:12] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: I don't know
[08:12] <imbrandon> heya riri , i only have a minute
[08:12] <seb__> "kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version" is listed as sources to NOT (and he repeat, NOT ;-) ) install. Why? KDE4-devel unstable packages ?
[08:12] <imbrandon> whats up?
[08:12] <riri> sorry
[08:12] <BluesKaj> none of those worked , unless I'm using the wrong prog xtn or something like that
[08:12] <nixbox> graft, is there any other way to "select" partitions while installing kubuntu, i have made partitions using fdisk
[08:12] <riri> how did you compile kde4 ?
[08:12] <halfbloodprince> abattoir?
[08:12] <DeadS0ul> do dpkg -l | grep udev ..if there's an ii on the left hand side it's installed
[08:13] <riri> i do it with the trunk explanation webpages
[08:13] <graft> nixbox: not really sure, i don't think i've ever installed kubuntu from a disk
[08:13] <imbrandon> riri, thats more than i have time to get into at the moment
[08:13] <seb__> Can I check the "Latest Amarok" even if it's wrote I shouldn't ?
[08:13] <BluesKaj> sh ./install.sh devede23
[08:13] <BluesKaj> sh: ./install.sh: No such file or directory
[08:13] <riri> ok
[08:13] <riri> don't worry
[08:13] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: seems to be a dependency issue
[08:13] <riri> thanks anyway
[08:14] <riri> cheers
[08:14] <graft> nixbox: i'm not even sure what stage you're stuck on... sorry
[08:14] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: what should i do?
[08:14] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: it's installed
[08:14] <abattoir> BluesKaj: are you inside that directory?
[08:14] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: one sec lemme try my bluetooth dongle
[08:14] <graft> seb__: you should definitely get 1.4.3, it's a major improvement
[08:14] <BluesKaj> now i am
[08:14] <riri> hey guis did someone compiled or use kde4 ?
[08:15] <graft> how do i view this chat history with kopete?
[08:15] <seb__> graft: so why it's told to ABSOLUTELY not use them?
[08:15] <abattoir> halfbloodprince: not sure... try running 'sudo apt-get update' before running it
[08:15] <graft> not use what? where? who said that?
[08:15] <seb__> graft: it's told on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:16] <abattoir> graft: you can use the back button in the chat window, or rt. click on a contact and go to history
[08:16] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: alright plug in the dongle into a usb port, and then in a console window type dmesg. It should give you some gibberish but you should be able to tell if it found the bluetooth dongle in teh last few lines
[08:16] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: type dmesg in a konsole window even
[08:17] <halfbloodprince> how do i kill this ymessenger thing?
[08:17] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: [17186005.324000]  Bluetooth: HCI USB driver ver 2.9
[08:17] <MrFaber> hi all
[08:17] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: means it's detected
[08:17] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: you jsut need the right programs know
[08:17] <MrFaber> What is the most common reason for sporadic kernel syncing errors? What is more likely, hardware or software bug? The mem is ok according to mem check. I am useing Dapper with latest amd64 server kernel.
[08:17] <Ayabara> :-)
[08:17] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: you used to using commandlines?
[08:17] <seb__> Does anyone know why it's told to not use the bottom sources on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic ?
[08:17] <redubuntu> espaol
[08:17] <lupine_85> MrFaber, that would be the preemptible kernel I'd imagine
[08:18] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: for configuring stuff, yes, but I like gui for everyday use :-)
[08:18] <graft> seb__: um, i usually use the source line listed on the amarok download page at amarok.kde.org to update to stable versions... you can follow that to get a link to a repos with 1.4.3 in it
[08:18] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: yeah same here, alrgiht you comfortable with adept?
[08:18] <MrFaber> lupine_85, no, the server kernel
[08:18] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: yep
[08:18] <lupine_85> hmm, not sure then
[08:18] <Ayabara> and apt
[08:19] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: to use bluetooth you would need bluez packages for bluetooth, and a piece of software called kdebluetooth
[08:19] <seb__> graft: follow what? Not clear. The source-o-matic or the amarok page.
[08:19] <graft> abattoir: ah, very nice!
[08:19] <MrFaber> lupine_85, I am useing the server kernel but since ubuntu has banned tor users and ubuntu-devel doesn't answer I ask here :). I am useing kubuntu 32 bit on my other pc but I haven't the problems there.
[08:19] <graft> seb__: the amarok page...
[08:19] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: kdebluetooth is installed
[08:19] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: use adept to install those packages
[08:19] <seb__> graft: ok
[08:19] <graft> is kopete scriptable?
[08:19] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: what bout bluez packages, becasue installing kdebluetooth doesn't install teh bluez packages
[08:20] <halfbloodprince> abattoir: same thing
[08:20] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: did an apt-search. lotsa bluez packages... should I get them all?
[08:20] <DeadS0ul> bluez-utils is the main one I think
[08:21] <Ayabara> it was already installed too :-)
[08:21] <BluesKaj> abattoir, I have the file right here , it shows folders and txt like" install.sh" , but wheres the installable execfile? ...the one that makes the program work ,which one would it be
[08:21] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: tried starting kdebluetooth?
[08:21] <lupine_85> install.sh is the installable "execfile"
[08:21] <lupine_85> ./install.sh should do the trick
[08:22] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: got a minute?
[08:22] <seb__> source-o-matic generates a script to install new sources.... but the script use the command "deb". Why isn't it installed?
[08:22] <lupine_85> about 6
[08:22] <lupine_85> seb: it generates a new sources.list file, not a script
[08:22] <seb__> lupine_85: Ah. Silly me.
[08:22] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: Bluetooth OBEX client under the internet menu, that's if you're trying to hook up to your phone
[08:23] <seb__> How to use that list?
[08:23] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: I'll try it out now. just gotta get my phone
[08:23] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince, what's up?
[08:23] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: i kinda got it working in linux, i haven't tried recently though
[08:24] <graft> hrm... kopete... somewhat lacking... i dunno
[08:24] <graft> might have to go back to gaim
[08:24] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: i'm trying to install amsn, and i'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23234
[08:25] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince, it's missing dependencies... do you have all repos installed?
[08:25] <lupine_85> erm, enabled
[08:26] <seb__> Ah... I append the list to /etc/apt/sources.list    Okay.
[08:26] <halfbloodprince> i think i do
[08:26] <halfbloodprince> how do i make sure
[08:26] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: it detects my phone :-) , now I gotta find out how to enter a password to connect
[08:26] <parsek> no sound with macromedia flash player
[08:26] <lupine_85> just make sure you have main restricted universe and multiverse
[08:26] <parsek> ??
[08:26] <lupine_85> parsek, does it work in konqueror?
[08:26] <lupine_85> e.g. flash site in konq.
[08:26] <parsek> hoe can i get it to work i
[08:26] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: yeah that's the part I got annoyed wit
[08:27] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: i gotta hit the sack soon, it's 2;30am here and I'm done looking at apples site XD
[08:27] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: I managed to push an mp3 to my phone
[08:27] <BluesKaj> lupine_85, ./install.sh doesn't work
[08:27] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: ok. thanks for your help!!
[08:27] <parsek> i have just got it to "work" in firefox, how can i get it in konqueror?
[08:27] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: how do i make sure of that?
[08:27] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: what phone do you have?
[08:28] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: Sony Ericsson K800i
[08:28] <DeadS0ul> it works with my k750i, i don't think you should have a problem with your k800i
[08:28] <graft> parsek: do you have dmix working with alsa?
[08:28] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: do you know if there's a phone browser app for SE out there?
[08:28] <DeadS0ul> SE?
[08:28] <DeadS0ul> what's SE?
[08:28] <MenZa> Sony Ericsson :)
[08:28] <DeadS0ul> oh
[08:28] <graft> gnokii might work with sony ericssons
[08:28] <Ayabara> :-)
[08:28] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince, ^ make sure universe, multiverse, main and restricted are enabled ^
[08:29] <MenZa> I think there is one, gnokii?
[08:29] <parsek> whats dmix
[08:29] <MenZa> graft: great minds think alike.
[08:29] <DeadS0ul> they're all obex standard, should work with kdebluetooth
[08:29] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: how? :p
[08:29] <halfbloodprince> i dont know what to look for
[08:29] <graft> dmix = alsa mixer plugin that lets all alsa applications share the sound device
[08:29] <MenZa> !universe > halfbloodprince
[08:29] <MenZa> :)
[08:29] <Ayabara> is all I can do in kdebluetooth to push files to bluetooth devices?
[08:29] <parsek> hehheh in konqueror it plays sounds in firefox the video? :D
[08:29] <DeadS0ul> and browse your contacts and stuff like that
[08:30] <graft> parsek: can you have any two applications playing sound at the same time?
[08:30] <graft> parsek: e.g. xmms and firefox?
[08:30] <lupine_85> erm, yeah that pretty much covers it. If you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list that'll let us see
[08:30] <parsek> ill test
[08:30] <DeadS0ul> ugh itunes 7 looks so cool now >|
[08:30] <lupine_85> iTunes--
[08:30] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: really? all I see is the options to push objects
[08:30] <graft> i bet amarok is still better
[08:31] <graft> if only they would get their fucking daap support working, it would be killer
[08:31] <halfbloodprince> thanks
[08:31] <parsek> vlc and xmms play at same time
[08:31] <DeadS0ul> Ayabara: i haven't used it in a while =\
[08:31] <graft> parsek: running arts?
[08:31] <parsek> im not sure what arts is but no
[08:31] <parsek> :)
[08:31] <Ayabara> DeadS0ul: ok.
[08:31] <parsek> whats arts
[08:31] <graft> it's your sound server, try 'ps -ef | grep arts' in the shell
[08:32] <pepe> hi
[08:32] <BluesKaj> does anyone know how install a tarball file ?
[08:32] <parsek> what about this
[08:32] <Ayabara> well. I'm gonna grab a bear and watch some champions league :-)
[08:33] <graft> BluesKaj: yeah you ungzip+untar it, cd to the directory it created, do ./configure && make && sudo make install
[08:33] <Ayabara> good evening people
[08:33] <graft> BluesKaj: and pray nothing goes wrong
[08:33] <pepe> hi i need help
[08:33] <BluesKaj> watchout that it doesn't bite
[08:33] <parsek> so what does this "ps -ef | grep arts" tell to me :D
[08:33] <pepe> im newbie on linux
[08:33] <graft> Ayabara: yeah, don't grab a bear, dude... that's dumb
[08:33] <pepe> can someone help me?????
[08:33] <graft> parsek: well, does it print out any lines?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> how do i find the dir it created ?
[08:33] <Ayabara> graft: :-D
[08:33] <parsek> yes
[08:33] <seb__> Quel systme de son KUbuntu utilise-t'il ? Mon son est  100% et il est bien plus faible que sous Windows ! Faut-il rgler ALSA ou un truc du genre ?
[08:34] <Ayabara> I'll try a beer then
[08:34] <graft> seb__: did you try turning up all the dials on your mixer app?
[08:34] <pepe> alguien habla espaol
[08:34] <pepe> ?????????????
[08:34] <graft> seb__: there's usually more than one - master, pcm, headphone, that might affect it
[08:35] <graft> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:35] <seb__> graft: Yes. But on KMix only. Is there another hidden place to turn up something else ?
[08:35] <graft> seb__: try alsamixer
[08:35] <graft> parsek: what'd it print out?
[08:35] <parsek> oops! :D tested what happens when i press ctrl and some key and it quit
[08:36] <DeadS0ul> g'nite guys
[08:36] <seb__> graft: No. Everything is at 100% too
[08:36] <parsek> plaa      6856  6816  0 20:36 ?        00:00:08 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s                                60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[08:36] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: i have universe and multiverse repositories enabled, it still gives the same error
[08:36] <parsek> plaa      7514  6834 78 21:32 ?        00:00:00 konsole --noclose -e /bin/sh -c                                ps  -ef | grep arts
[08:36] <parsek> plaa      7515  7514  0 21:32 pts/3    00:00:00 /bin/sh -c ps  -ef | grep arts
[08:36] <parsek> plaa      7517  7515  0 21:32 pts/3    00:00:00 grep arts
[08:36] <lupine_85> in that case, those packages simply aren't available in ubuntu :(
[08:36] <mrj> hi
[08:36] <mrj> how to add DSDT table to initrd ?
[08:36] <graft> parsek: yeah, okay, you're running arts... so, first thing, you should kill the fuck out of arts and never use it again
[08:36] <lupine_85> next-best-bet: build from source
[08:36] <mrj> mkinitrd ..... and then
[08:36] <lupine_85> arts--
[08:36] <BluesKaj> graft,  bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:37] <graft> arts is the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked
[08:37] <Alextremo> pepe:
[08:37] <parsek> does sound still work in vlc and xmms
[08:37] <graft> BluesKaj: you have to cd into the directory it created when you untar'd that file
[08:37] <mrj> lupine_85: how to add DSDT table to initrd ?
[08:37] <lupine_85> no idea
[08:37] <mrj> anyone ?
[08:37] <parsek> and how do i kill arts?
[08:37] <graft> parsek: vlc will probably know what to do, xmms you might have to configure your sound output to use alsa directly
[08:37] <halfbloodprince> lupine_85: still the same error
[08:38] <seb__> graft: Or is there a mixer for Xine ?
[08:38] <BluesKaj> graft, i did cd to the dir , that worked but./config doesn't work for some reason
[08:38] <graft> parsek: goto kcontrol under 'sound & multimedia'/sound server
[08:38] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince, ^in that case, those packages simply aren't available in ubuntu :( ^
[08:38] <graft> seb__: xine might have its own server
[08:38] <halfbloodprince> okay..
[08:38] <graft> seb__: err, equalizer
[08:38] <lupine_85> so... build from source
[08:39] <graft> parsek: uncheck 'enable the sound system', then in the shell type pkill -9 -f artsd
[08:39] <DexterF> why is there no /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:39] <halfbloodprince> how do i get opera 9 for kubuntu
[08:39] <halfbloodprince> adept?
[08:40] <parsek> so i disable sound system from system settings?
[08:40] <DexterF> i'm just setting up kub, kcontrol borks when it comes to net config, so i wanted to do it old fashioned
[08:40] <DeadS0ul> halfbloodprince: if you're used to GUI for now
[08:40] <parsek> so i disable sound system from system settings??
[08:40] <graft> parsek: yeah.. um... do you have mplayer working?
[08:40] <DeadS0ul> halfbloodprince: hit ctrl + esc and type in arts in teh search text input field
[08:40] <parsek> it might woek
[08:40] <parsek> work
[08:41] <parsek> i have it but im not sure will it play anything
[08:41] <graft> parsek: well after you kill arts, test if mplayer will play some simple file, mp3 or something
[08:41] <halfbloodprince> DeadSoul: what will that do
[08:43] <BluesKaj> graft , what's wrong when the ./configure command doesn't work ...I'm at the dir "~devede23"  ?
[08:43] <graft> BluesKaj: wtf is this tarball anyway?
[08:43] <BluesKaj> devede23
[08:43] <graft> BluesKaj: um, so what's in the dir? stuff? any executable?
[08:43] <nailuj> jau
[08:44] <parsek> kmplayer plays with xine engine
[08:44] <BluesKaj> install.sh is there , but i don't know how to use it
[08:44] <halfbloodprince> ??
[08:44] <parsek> i dont have mplayer
[08:45] <graft> umm, BluesKaj, just do ./install.sh in that dir
[08:45] <graft> err, sudo ./install.sh, even
[08:45] <nailuj> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[08:45] <parsek> what was the command that checked the arts thing, again...
[08:45] <graft> parsek: what, you need to get mplayer right now
[08:45] <graft> mplayer++++!
[08:45] <parsek> xmms plays too
[08:45] <NthDegree> graft: mplayer sucks for music
[08:45] <lupine_85> yeo
[08:45] <lupine_85> yep*
[08:45] <lupine_85> amarok for music
[08:45] <NthDegree> Amarok is da schizzle :)
[08:46] <lupine_85> or xmms if you want a smaller footprint
[08:46] <halfbloodprince> yes it is
[08:46] <graft> NthDegree: nah, it's good at decoding, just poor interface
[08:46] <graft> NthDegree: anyway i'm going to make parsek use it to play notifications since he's disabled arts
[08:46] <NthDegree> ROFL
[08:46] <parsek> ok now what :)
[08:47] <graft> um, is arts dead?
[08:47] <graft> and is mplayer installed?
[08:47] <parsek> what was the command that checked it again
[08:47] <graft> ps -ef | grep artsd
[08:47] <lupine_85> -ef?
[08:47] <halfbloodprince> which version of opera does adept install
[08:47] <parsek> it still prints stuff
[08:47] <graft> um, you know, standard flags that i learned a long time ago but forgot what they do now
[08:48] <lupine_85> parsek, you'd probably get one, which is the grep command
[08:48] <graft> yeah
[08:48] <lupine_85> any more is cause for concern
[08:48] <graft> and maybe some stuff about konsole, depending on how you launched it
[08:48] <parsek> is it on if it still prints stuff
[08:48] <graft> depending on what it prints, yeah
[08:48] <halfbloodprince> anyone here use opera?
[08:48] <graft> do you know how to read the output of ps?
[08:49] <parsek> plaa      7696  6834 72 21:47 ?        00:00:00 konsole --noclose -e /bin/sh -c ps  -ef | grep artsd
[08:49] <parsek> plaa      7697  7696  0 21:47 pts/3    00:00:00 /bin/sh -c ps  -ef | grep artsd
[08:49] <parsek> plaa      7699  7697  0 21:47 pts/3    00:00:00 grep artsd
[08:49] <graft> okay, so no - it ain't running
[08:49] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[08:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:49] <NthDegree> ZOMG
[08:49] <graft> the stuff on the right after the 00:00:00 is the running process
[08:49] <parsek> so now what (mplayer is installed)
[08:50] <graft> um, okay, goto sound & multimedia/system notifications/player settings
[08:50] <graft> then tell it to use an external player and set it to /usr/bin/mplayer
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> !kdm
[08:50] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> How does one add a window manager to KDM?
[08:50] <graft> after that, if alsa dmix plugin is installed correctly (which it should be by default if kubuntu is worth its salt), nearly everything should work okay
[08:50] <lupine_85> Ah-Fox: just install it
[08:51] <lupine_85> erm, ash-fox :)
[08:51] <lupine_85> it'll be added to the list of sessions automagically
[08:51] <graft> parsek: firefox might be a problem, but we can fix that
[08:51] <Ash-Fox> lupine_85, I wrote one from scratch :P
[08:51] <parsek> where is this sound & multimedia/system notifications/player settings
[08:51] <graft> parsek: in kcontrol
[08:51] <parsek> system settings?
[08:51] <Ash-Fox> lupine_85, I know how to get startx to start it, xinit etc. but not kdm :P
[08:51] <graft> yeah, that
[08:51] <BluesKaj> graft, ./install.sh: command not found,  ./install.sh: No such file or directory..blahablahblah...i't always the same thing , none of these commands work !
[08:52] <graft> BluesKaj: um, are you in ~/devede23?
[08:52] <BluesKaj> yes
[08:52] <graft> BluesKaj: then it oughta work... i downloaded the same tarball and i'm looking at it right here
[08:53] <parsek> where can i say to it to use external player
[08:53] <lupine_85> Ash-Fox: in that case, I've no idea
[08:53] <lupine_85> dpkg -L kdm and see if there's any good-looking config giles?
[08:53] <lupine_85> erm, files
[08:53] <graft> parsek: under 'player settings', button near the bottom
[08:53] <BluesKaj> I'm looking at the file too graft, bur where is the run file ?
[08:53] <draik> I  had a bit of a major thought...
[08:53] <graft> BluesKaj: type: cd ~/devede23, then type: sudo ./install.sh
[08:53] <draik> Is there any app for voice interaction with Kubuntu?
[08:54] <graft> ooh! yeah, i was fiddling with that voice stuff a while ago... there's a pretty nice one
[08:54] <mth`MAW> [2006-09-12 20:53:53]  <draik> Is there any app for voice interaction with Kubuntu?
[08:54] <draik> graft, which one?
[08:54] <mth`MAW> I was searching for that, but havent found anything
[08:54] <graft> draik: ksayit i think...
[08:54] <parsek> then what
[08:55] <draik> I asked a while back, but it was still "in the works"
[08:55] <mth`MAW> I thought in the 22cnd century a computer shoul dbe albel to interact with human
[08:55] <graft> oh wait, you want voice command stuff? or tts stuff?
[08:55] <graft> mth`MAW: it's only the 21st century, dude
[08:55] <mth`MAW> kaysait "just"speaks
[08:55] <draik> graft, comamands... interaction
[08:55] <mth`MAW> grml
[08:55] <Kiongku> yo.. anybody knows hot play .dat video files on kaffeine?
[08:55] <mth`MAW> of course it is...
[08:55] <BluesKaj> graft,it just goes back to ~/devede23$
[08:55] <Kiongku> *how
[08:55] <mth`MAW> :9
[08:56] <graft> BluesKaj: okay, and then the sudo command does what?
[08:56] <lupine_85> graft: escalates you to root for that command
[08:56] <parsek> holy shit IT WORKS!!!!!!!! :D THX but will all other programs work? :)
[08:56] <BluesKaj> goes back to ~/devede23$
[08:56] <graft> parsek: as i said firefox is the only one that might not work with other programs
[08:56] <graft> BluesKaj: yeah, that's because it worked seamlessly
[08:57] <parsek> vlc doesnt play any sound :(
[08:57] <lupine_85> graft: you can play flash websites in Konq. -- they'll integrate seamlessly
[08:57] <graft> parsek: you might have to configure them to use alsa directly, they might still be trying to use arts
[08:57] <parsek> how do i do that
[08:57] <graft> parsek: fuct if i know... you'll have to figure it out
[08:57] <graft> shouldn't be too hard
[08:58] <BluesKaj> so where's the program  located/
[08:58] <parsek> install alsa-oss?
[08:58] <graft> parsek: yeah, that
[08:58] <graft> parsek: then in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc edit it so it says FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[08:59] <graft> and firefox should play nice with alsa
[08:59] <parsek> firefox works
[08:59] <graft> yeah, they'll all work fine by themselves
[08:59] <graft> the question is will they share
[08:59] <parsek> but vlc and xmms wont
[08:59] <graft> right... so my guess is firefox isn't sharing
[08:59] <graft> if you do that thingy then they'll all share
[09:00] <parsek> well alsa-oss didnt do anything
[09:00] <graft> yeah it did, it installed the aoss wrapper program
[09:00] <parsek> but still xmms says it cant play
[09:00] <lupine_85> parsek: is xmms using the right plugin?
[09:00] <graft> yeah, because you have to do that thing i said above with firefoxrc and restart firefox
[09:00] <graft> also what lupine_85 said
[09:01] <parsek> how does the firefox do anything to other programs?
[09:01] <parsek> how can...
[09:01] <graft> err, no, um... okay, did you ever use a walkie-talkie?
[09:01] <BluesKaj> ok graft , looks like i fianally have something working , thx for your help :)
[09:01] <graft> np, bk
[09:02] <graft> it's like in a walkie-talkie when someone else holds down the button to talk, you can't talk
[09:02] <nixbox> i am trying to install ethereal on kubuntu, i have uncommented all the repositories in sources.list and then did sudo apt-get update, when i do sudo apt-get install ethereal, i get a message saying that i have unmet dependencies, how do i fix that?
[09:02] <graft> so, firefox is 'holding down the button', and no one else can use the sound card while it's doing so
[09:02] <parsek> ok
[09:02] <parsek> :)
[09:02] <graft> installing the aoss wrapper makes it more like a phone line - everyone can talk at once
[09:03] <graft> nixbox: install those dependencies?
[09:04] <nixbox> graft, but i have dapper on another laptop and when i had installed ethereal, it hadn't asked me for dependencies, it automatically fetched those, whats wrong now ?
[09:04] <Vegeta^> On a web pae it says that additional plugins are needed, and when I choose "Install missing plugins" it gives me that "following plugins are available: Java Runtime Enviroment", but I already have Sun Java 5.0 installed.. And when it "
[09:04] <graft> nixbox: um, apt is finnicky sometimes... just humor it
[09:05] <parsek> ok so now i have done the firefox thing
[09:05] <halfbloodprince> kubuntu is the best os ever!
[09:05] <lupine_85> hehe
[09:06] <lupine_85> it's fugly
[09:06] <graft> parsek: is it working ok?
[09:06] <Vegeta^> Is Blackdown Java needed? If so, how do I install it on KDE? BEcouse the installer just gets stuck at 0 %...
[09:06] <parsek> what
[09:06] <graft> yeah, man, even if it's totally bloat, i gotta have my KDE
[09:06] <NthDegree> Vegeta^: Sun Java
[09:06] <parsek> other programs or firefox (flash sound)
[09:06] <NthDegree> Vegeta^: there's Sun Java for x86_64 now, no need for IBM Blackdown
[09:06] <graft> parsek: can you, e.g., watch strong bad emails while listening to Cocteau Twins in xmms?
[09:07] <Vegeta^> NthDegree: Ok. But what about the "additional plugin"-thing?
[09:07] <parsek>  watch strong bad emails?
[09:07] <parsek> xmms doesnt play anything
[09:07] <graft> yeah, you know... "Dear Strong Bad, blah blah blah, crapfully yours, some loser, loserville, LA"
[09:07] <NthDegree> Vegeta^: Blackdown Java has less capabilities than Sun's offering AFAIK
[09:07] <parsek> how do i change the plugin its using or something
[09:07] <Vegeta^> ok
[09:07] <graft> parsek: i seriously haven't used xmms since the 1990s
[09:08] <redubuntu> espaol
[09:08] <draik> Anyone here use k9copy for DVD backups??? Here is the error I'm getting... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23240
[09:08] <parsek> mplayer doesnt play either
[09:08] <draik> !sp > redubuntu
[09:09] <graft> parsek: um, did you restart firefox?
[09:09] <lupine_85> !es
[09:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:09] <redubuntu> cual es el canal de ubuntu en espaol
[09:09] <parsek> nope
[09:09] <halfbloodprince> lupine: why are you on ubuntu
[09:09] <lupine_85> it's my amd64 install
[09:09] <graft> parsek: well, that's probably something you should do :P
[09:09] <draik> Thank you lupine_85
[09:09] <draik> !sp
[09:09] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[09:09] <draik> LOL
[09:10] <draik> whoops
[09:10] <parsek> LOL now it works :D
[09:10] <parsek> vlc works too :)
[09:10] <graft> parsek: at the same time?
[09:10] <lupine_85> halfbloodprince, I'm upgrading it to edgy :)
[09:10] <parsek> yes
[09:10] <graft> hot!
[09:10] <graft> i'm taking a well-deserved break
[09:10] <parsek> :D
[09:11] <halfbloodprince> ah
[09:11] <halfbloodprince> i thought edgy was unstable
[09:11] <lupine_85> it is :)
[09:11] <lupine_85> very
[09:11] <lupine_85> hence why it's happening on my ubuntu x86_64 install
[09:12] <lupine_85> (I've got kubuntu in a vmware partition, but...)
[09:12] <parsek> flashplayer (firefox, video google), vlc and xmms playing at same time :D
[09:12] <lupine_85> !info xserver-xgl edgy
[09:12] <ubotu> xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.0.git.20060725-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1548 kB, installed size 4124 kB
[09:13] <graft> yeah, holy shit is edgy unstable
[09:13] <lupine_85> hehe
[09:13] <lupine_85> it's gone quite well so far
[09:13] <Thehound> Hi
[09:13] <graft> there's almost always some broken package
[09:13] <lupine_85> only had to dpkg -r twice
[09:13] <graft> usually python
[09:13] <parsek> but seriously, thx graft :)
[09:13] <Thehound> hope I can be helped. I'm totally new to linux
[09:13] <Thehound> :(
[09:13] <lupine_85> gtk2-engines-clearlooks and a gcj compat so far
[09:13] <graft> np, parsek... glad it worked out
[09:13] <graft> Thehound: you should say, I'm totally new to linux, :)
[09:14] <Lynoure> Thehound: What's the problem?
[09:14] <Thehound> well today I installed and trying to get things installed has been a nightmare. Been at rtorrent for 4 hours
[09:15] <Thehound> the apt-get wouldn't find it, so I finally get a .deb package
[09:15] <Thehound> and dpkg can't find the file
[09:15] <Thehound> even though it's there
[09:15] <parsek> i have to process in my mind  what i just did to my OS :D cuz i still dont understand why it works ^^
[09:16] <Lynoure> Thehound: sorry, I know nothing about rtorrent... but dpkg should find the file if yoou give it the right path and have right permissions.
[09:16] <Thehound> root(believe me, it's NAT'ed with no apps
[09:17] <Thehound> just requires me to install libtorrent as dependency which is compiled
[09:17] <seth|lappy> what is the .deb package's name, Thehound? and where did you download it to?
[09:17] <Thehound> desktop
[09:17] <Thehound> tried copying to root
[09:17] <Lynoure> Thehound: What is your command, where is your file and if you get an error message, which one?
[09:17] <seth|lappy> try sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/*.deb
[09:18] <seth|lappy> that should catch it for sure
[09:18] <Thehound> file or directory does not exist
[09:18] <Thehound> wow I will brb, talking on Wintrash
[09:20] <parsek> BTW- how can i write in colours in mirc or konversation (cant remember what the keys where, ctrl and domething?)?
[09:22] <NthDegree> hkhtigthiu
[09:22] <NthDegree> not quite right methinks
[09:22] <agustin> esa peaaaaaaaaaaaaa neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenggg
[09:22] <Thehound> returned error exit status 2, but it tried
[09:22] <Thehound> not sure what that means
[09:22] <agustin> esa peaaaaaaaaa neeeeeeeeeeeeeng
[09:23] <agustin> chacho tan empanaos
[09:24] <mrj> [21:22]  <mrj> people
[09:24] <mrj> [21:22]  <mrj> how do i add an DSDT table into initrd
[09:24] <mrj> [21:23]  <mrj> how can i in the rule add some files to initrd ?
[09:24] <mrj> [21:23]  <mrj> must i mount it and add files
[09:24] <mrj> [21:23]  <mrj> or should i create new initrd image and if so how can i add DSDT table to it
[09:24] <graft> ARR
[09:24] <graft> !enter
[09:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:24] <Thehound> is there any reason I have all repositories check, but can't even get Azurues?
[09:24] <BluesKaj> parsek, konversation/settings/configkonversation/colors
[09:24] <Thehound> maybe fixing the main issue will help
[09:24] <Thehound> Azureus*
[09:24] <parsek> yes but not permanently
[09:25] <mrj> and how i do my DSDT ....
[09:25] <agustin> suck me
[09:25] <agustin> hehehehehehehe
[09:26] <BluesKaj> parsek, remember to click "ok" after making the changes abd then it'll be pern=manaent
[09:26] <BluesKaj> err permanenet
[09:27] <parsek> yes but i mean that there is a key like ctrl + let say x so i can choose a colour and type with it
[09:27] <maltaethiron> lol, pernmanent
[09:28] <BluesKaj> oh that's not permanent , ya gotta do it in configure
[09:28] <parsek> Plaa
[09:28] <parsek> hups
[09:28] <Thehound> I think I'll be ok if I could use package manager. For everything else. Why is it I have everything checked for repositories, but can't get any torrent clients?
[09:28] <parsek> does this work
[09:28] <Thehound> my friends say they can
[09:28] <parsek> that doesnt work in this channel
[09:29] <BluesKaj> ktorrent not good enuff , Thehound ?
[09:29] <halfbloodprince> velvet revolver sounds f***ing slick on amarok
[09:29] <Xal2> Hi
[09:29] <parsek> xyz
[09:29] <Thehound> can't even get that and no
[09:29] <Thehound> it's banned at my trackers
[09:29] <BluesKaj> Azurues is really unstable
[09:29] <Xal2> I'm having some trouble setting up 5.1 sound on my computer. I have integrated sound and a 5.1 channel speaker set.
[09:29] <Thehound> wanted to try rtorrent
[09:29] <Thehound> but need to get package manager showing torrent clients
[09:29] <BluesKaj> got the mixer setup Xal2 ?
[09:30] <BluesKaj> there aren't many torrent clients for linux
[09:30] <Thehound> ctorrent, rtorrent, ktorrent, Azureus
[09:30] <BluesKaj> bitornado might work
[09:30] <Xal2> The one accessed by right clicking the speaker and then clicking mixer?
[09:30] <Thehound> none of them show
[09:30] <Thehound> but they do for friends
[09:31] <Vanique> ho
[09:31] <Vanique> hi
[09:31] <Vanique> NthDegree Avaliable ?
[09:31] <Vanique> :] 
[09:31] <BluesKaj> you don't have the repositories that store the pkgs then
[09:31] <Thehound> how do I get them?
[09:31] <Thehound> my friends just said I needed to checkmark them all
[09:31] <BluesKaj> what OS ?
[09:32] <Thehound> Kubuntu(obviously)
[09:32] <BluesKaj> dapper?
[09:32] <parsek> thx graft, and bye all! :D ^^
[09:32] <Xal2> Those settings don't do anything.
[09:32] <Xal2> I can boost the LFE to the max, and there is no change, for example.
[09:32] <Xal2> No sound out of back and center speakers, either
[09:32] <halfbloodprince> is Krusader cool
[09:33] <Ruthenium> Thehound: you did an update afer ?
[09:33] <Thehound> yes.
[09:34] <Thehound> there must be something messed up about the install, but what
[09:34] <Thehound> did this one
[09:34] <swamptu> Q: I am using samba...i can see the external drive i am tring to share in windows workgroup but i cannot acces it
[09:34] <Ruthenium> hmm maybe your sources.list is really messed up
[09:34] <Thehound> kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[09:34] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23249
[09:34] <draik> My sources.list
[09:34] <seth|lappy> well, that's the old version of Kubuntu, Thehound...
[09:34] <Ruthenium> yeah a good idea
[09:34] <Xal2> Any idea why I'm not getting output from those speakers? I know that its all setup correctly.
[09:34] <seth|lappy> but it should still work, so it's not a big deal
[09:35] <Thehound> yeah others said test
[09:35] <Thehound> this said final so I figure stable
[09:35] <Ruthenium> (it goes so fast I forgot it was the old one...)
[09:35] <Gerrit_> cu
[09:36] <Ruthenium> it would be best to install the new one first if you can burn an iso
[09:36] <Thehound> paste that in the list. is that the list under examples?
[09:36] <Thehound> that I looked at
[09:37] <Ruthenium> hmmm draik probably gave his list for the dapper one, you have to change all the dapper to breezy and save it under sources.list in /etc/apt/
[09:37] <draik> Mine is dapper drake, sorry
[09:38] <visik7> thank you guys backport for kopete 0.12.2 works perfectly thank you again
[09:39] <halfbloodprince> should i get kftpgrabber?
[09:39] <Ruthenium> if you are ok with commands ^^, do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:39] <gmalex_> visik7: stai su azzurra tu no? :D
[09:39] <visik7> don't use language but english
[09:39] <Ruthenium> erase everything, copy the list from draik, and change all the dapper words that you see with breezy, then ctrl x to save
[09:40] <BluesKaj> !it
[09:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:40] <Ruthenium> and sudo apt-get update
[09:40] <halfbloodprince> should i get kftpgrabber
[09:40] <Gmalex> visik7: are you also on azzurranet?
[09:40] <visik7> yes I'm
[09:40] <Gmalex> visik7: are you italian?
[09:41] <visik7> yes I'm
[09:41] <Thehound> I still pull down the menu and save. Windows habits die hard. At least I don't hit ctrl S :S
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm building firefox from source, and i get this: configure: error: Qt Mozilla requires at least version 3.2.0 of Qt
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> what package i need?
[09:41] <Thehound> brb
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> to solve it?
[09:41] <Gmalex> visik7: e allora perch cazz mi fai parlare in inglese? :D
[09:41] <Xal2> BluesKaj: I have 6ch sound enabled, but the only way I can get my back speakers to work is by duplicating the front, but it's not really a true 5.1
[09:41] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: libqt3-mt-dev and probably also libqt3-headers
[09:42] <visik7> Gmalex: DON'T SPEAK IN OTHER LANGUAGE THAT AREN'T ENGLISH IN THIS CHANNEL !!! is so difficult to understand ?
[09:42] <BluesKaj> ya gotta be running true 5.1 sound from a Dolby digital or DTS source
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> i have both
[09:42] <lupine_85> that would be because it's a different language :)
[09:42] <BluesKaj> !es
[09:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> 3.3 >
[09:42] <visik7> Gmalex: is for that reason that Italian ppl are badly dealed
[09:42] <BluesKaj> !pt
[09:42] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:42] <lupine_85> !it
[09:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:42] <lupine_85> ?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> it's gotta be one of those lingos :)
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> visik7: i have both, and synaptic says 3.3.x ...
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> so it's newer than 3.2...
[09:43] <Xal2> Ah, I see
[09:44] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: never recompiled firefox, but why are you compiling firefox ?
[09:44] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: and Qt isn't needed to compile firefox
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, but i want to compile with qt
[09:44] <Xal2> Still, during the sound test, I only get noise from the front right and front left.
[09:44] <visik7> firefox is written in grk
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to try it out:)
[09:45] <swamptu> Q: I am using samba...i can see the external drive i am tring to share in windows workgroup but i cannot access it, any ideas?
[09:46] <BluesKaj> Xal2, if the i's a dvd then its prollt DD or DTS but anything else including a lotta games are 2.1 stereo , which yer 5.i souncard  makes seudo 5.1  , like prologic etc
[09:46] <Xal2> So how do I have linux make a seudo 5.1?
[09:46] <BluesKaj> suedo= (phony)
[09:46] <Xal2> and have my sub working
[09:46] <Xal2> pseudo, yeah
[09:47] <BluesKaj> the soundcard options menu should be setup to auto detect DD or whatevr you want
[09:47] <visik7> MetaMorfoziS: really dunno
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> :/
[09:47] <Xal2> Where is that? All I can find is kmix
[09:48] <BluesKaj> then you need updated drivers for your soundcard in kubuntu if you can find them
[09:49] <BluesKaj> have you checked  system settings/ soundsystem/ configurations/hardware ?
[09:51] <Xal2> It's set as autodetect
[09:51] <Xal2> No options are set
[09:52] <BluesKaj> look in the list..advanced might be the one
[09:52] <Xal2> alsa?
[09:53] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:53] <Xal2> Yeah, I just set it as that.
[09:54] <Xal2> It's gone through the restarting sound system box 3 times now oO
[09:55] <Search4Lancer> so.... anyone have any idea how to get sound to work in Flash movies???
[09:56] <Ripley> I need some help installing packages.  I keep getting this error:
[09:56] <Ripley> root@Ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver
[09:56] <Ripley> Reading package lists... Done
[09:56] <Ripley> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:56] <Ripley> vnc-common is already the newest version.
[09:56] <Ripley> E: Couldn't find package tightvncserver
[09:56] <Ripley> What am I doing wrong?
[09:57] <bubu1uk> Ripley: did u try to use adept to find packages, if they r aviable in repos u use?
[09:58] <Ruthenium> try to install only tightvncserver
[09:58] <visik7> will kde have something like gnome-keyring ?
[09:59] <_bender_> Kwallet?
[09:59] <_bender_> KDE Wallet*
[09:59] <Ripley> root@Ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get install tightvncserver                              Reading package lists... Done
[09:59] <Ripley> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:59] <Ripley> E: Couldn't find package tightvncserver
[09:59] <Ruthenium> enable all repositories with adept ?
[09:59] <lupine_85> !info tightvncserver
[09:59] <ubotu> tightvncserver: virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 617 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[10:00] <lupine_85> yep, it's in universe
[10:00] <bubu1uk> Ripley: enable universe repositories
[10:00] <Ruthenium> good thing this "!info"
[10:00] <_bender_> Yah
[10:01] <Ripley> How do I enable the universe repositories?
[10:01] <Hawkwind> !universe
[10:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:01] <Hawkwind> Ripley: Read the second URL there
[10:01] <bubu1uk> Ripley: use adept. it has nice GUI, it's easy with that
[10:02] <Ripley> I would but I am remoted in via ssh from work at the moment.
[10:02] <bubu1uk> Ripley: (from menu choose Manage repositories)
[10:02] <Thehound> we got it to install but where is it lol
[10:02] <Ruthenium> then modify manually /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:02] <_bender_> Where does Kubuntu keep the config files regarding file assosciations?
[10:03] <lupine_85> the mime types?
[10:03] <lupine_85> you can edit them using konqueror's settings
[10:03] <BluesKaj> Xal2, system settings/system services/adminsmode/alsa-utils/start
[10:03] <_bender_> Ah
[10:03] <mrj> people
[10:04] <mrj> could anybody pelase help
[10:04] <mrj> i ve spent so much time
[10:04] <_bender_> I have that on a daily basis mrj
[10:04] <mrj> with that problem and i need help
[10:04] <bubu1uk> i like ppl that ask for help without telling what problem is. :p
[10:05] <mrj> _bender_: how to add DSDT to initrd image ?
[10:05] <_bender_> Lupine_85: Thankssss foudn the setting
[10:05] <BluesKaj> just state yer prob, mrj
[10:05] <mrj> a ve found a fixed DSDT table for my ACPI
[10:05] <mrj> BUT i can not add it to initrd
[10:05] <mrj> the instructions are for SUSE and i have kubuntu
[10:05] <ep> What's a good utility to find duplicate files or find all files of the same name and sort them by size?  Stuff like that.
[10:05] <halfbloodprince> umm.. adept does everything for you.. why do people need automatix, easyubuntu, stuff like that?
[10:06] <mrj> my  mkinitrd command is different from that one uset in the instructuons
[10:06] <Thehound> hey guys, I got rtorrent installed but I don't see anything to launch it
[10:06] <mrj> used*
[10:06] <mrj> BluesKaj:  help
[10:06] <bubu1uk> Thehound: type rtorrent command in konsole, it's console based program
[10:07] <bubu1uk> konsole/console > why i type like idiot?
[10:07] <mrj> http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=207282
[10:07] <bubu1uk> first come, first serves.  ;)
[10:07] <mrj> i followed this instructions
[10:07] <mrj> in german
[10:08] <mrj> could anyone help me ?
[10:09] <mrj> after i have an DSDT image how i load it into intrd
[10:09] <mrj> and how i configure the initrd so that the DSDT table will be loaded at startup ?
[10:09] <Ruthenium> sorry, don't know, maybe try to post it on the ubuntuforums
[10:10] <swamptu> Q: I am using samba...i can see the external drive i am tring to share in windows workgroup but i cannot access it, any ideas?
[10:10] <swamptu> I can see a different folder i shared that is on my main drive, just cant get in the external drive
[10:13] <Thehound> thanks for your patience. I'll take your support over Bill Gates' any day and I don't even have trouble running windows lol
[10:14] <Thehound> been stuck with it since 3.1 except for macs at work
[10:14] <BluesKaj> have you tried some torrent sites , Thehound
[10:14] <Vanique> how do you call thaat another way of install packets?
[10:14] <Vanique> ;D
[10:14] <Vanique> firs it from sources
[10:14] <Vanique> and another?
[10:14] <Vanique> ;p
[10:15] <BluesKaj> apt-get "file"
[10:15] <Thehound> tried 1 torrent thus far but don't like the GUI, so I'm trying ktorrent too. Sod the 2 sites that ban it for the moment
[10:15] <Thehound> claims "does not uniquely identify itself"
[10:15] <BluesKaj> or apt -get install 'file"
[10:15] <Thehound> far as the ban reason
[10:15] <Vanique> BluesKaj: yes, but i meant about its 'name'
[10:16] <Vanique> begening of 'r' letter
[10:16] <Ruthenium> weird sites, I've been using ktorrent and never had a problem
[10:16] <Thehound> oink, bitme, bitmetv
[10:16] <Thehound> ban it
[10:16] <BluesKaj> do you mean from sources using adept or synaptic , Vanique ?
[10:16] <Thehound> they download from me so intermittantly, I'll just run utorrent on the Windows pc
[10:17] <Thehound> for those 3
[10:17] <Vanique> no, i meant how do you call that links
[10:17] <mrj> so i am here again
[10:17] <bubu1uk> Thehound: what torrent client u tried now u had problems with?
[10:17] <Vanique> R..... something
[10:17] <Thehound> none now
[10:17] <Vanique> ;] 
[10:17] <Thehound> seems the apt-get always works
[10:17] <mrj> did anybody knows how to add the DSDT table in initrd ?
[10:17] <BluesKaj> !pl
[10:17] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:17] <Thehound> once you have the list
[10:18] <enrico_> cosa 
[10:18] <Vanique> BluesKaj: there s no one avaliable right now
[10:18] <mrj> !bg
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Thehound, apt-get only works if it can find the file in the repositories , the same as adept or synaptic
[10:19] <enrico_> c' qualcuno che mi aiuta in italiano?
[10:19] <BluesKaj> sourceslist
[10:19] <BluesKaj> !it
[10:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:19] <Thehound> yup but my list had 14 entries with 7 identical
[10:19] <Thehound> not sure how it got messed up
[10:20] <Ruthenium> ^^
[10:20] <Thehound> oops an accident
[10:20] <Thehound> lol
[10:20] <BluesKaj> would you like to get my list ...i copied it from imbrandon yesterday ...it's very up to date and trustorthy
[10:20] <Thehound> I saved the webpage on Windows.
[10:21] <Thehound> in case you guys ever take it down
[10:21] <Thehound> I doubt DB urls change much
[10:24] <BluesKaj> well dump the duplicates , it just messes things up when you update
[10:24] <Thehound> I pasted your list completely over it
[10:24] <Thehound> sure
[10:26] <Kejk_PL> Hi, is it known that newest Amarok from Kubuntu packages have probles with collection database?
[10:27] <Vanique> BluesKaj: i meant about repositories
[10:27] <Vanique> ;] 
[10:27] <Ruthenium> what kind of problems ? mine works well Kejk_PL
[10:29] <BluesKaj> Kejk_PL, go to http://www.imbrandon.com/ for repos and dependencies for amarok 1.4.3
[10:31] <Kejk_PL> It finds mp3's, I have categories in collection tab, but can't "open" it
[10:31] <Kejk_PL> never mind, I'll try to investigate and i'll write full report
[10:32] <Ruthenium> prior version  were working well ?
[10:34] <BluesKaj> ok here is a n upto date repository souces list for those wanting to install amarok and it;s dependencies plus alot of other goodstuff if ya need it  http://pastebin.ca/168222
[10:35] <Kiongku> !codec
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Kr4t05> !w32codecs
[10:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:35] <BluesKaj> copy from the black and white text, not the blue background
[10:35] <BluesKaj> copy from the black and white text, not the blue background  http://pastebin.ca/168222
[10:38] <deeo> wow, asus accepted my RMA for a 1.5 year old board, not too bad.
[10:38] <deeo> although it would have been nicer if the chipset hadn't melted down and dribbled acid all over the pcb...
[10:41] <deeo> not soon enough for my wow account to expire, though... damn.
[10:44] <Hawkwind> rouzic: Please don't display your away messages
[10:51] <xwolf-> i've managed to put Shell number 1 in konsole with the transparent scheme as default. but when i open a new tab, the scheme is the old white over black. how do i make the transparent default for all tabs?
[10:53] <draik> I can't seem to use my OpenGL screensaver
[10:53] <main2> :O
[10:53] <main2> what does glxinfo say?
[10:53] <draik> what do I need to run my OpenGL screensaver?
[10:53] <draik> sorry...
[10:53] <draik> name of display: :0.0
[10:54] <draik> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <draik> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <draik> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <main2> you got a ati/nvidia?
[10:54] <draik> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:54] <draik>    visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
[10:54] <draik>  id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
[10:54] <main2> i dont need the whole story..
[10:54] <draik> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[10:54] <main2> please..
[10:54] <draik> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <draik> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <draik> 0x21 24 tc  1  0  0 c  .  .  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
[10:54] <draik> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <draik> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:54] <draik> 0x22 24 dc  1  0  0 c  .  .  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
[10:54] <draik> nvidia
[10:54] <main2> dont paste more then 3lines, ..
[10:54] <main2> never mind
[10:55] <main2> install the nvidia drivers, and you will be able to..
[10:55] <draik> install them from where? apt-get?
[10:56] <main2> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[10:57] <octan> i would like to get some help pls. i need to map Ctrl Alt to button9 on my mouse. i know howto map a command to the mouse with xbindkeys.. but i dont see how i can do it that,, anyone got ideas? can xmodmap to this? if so howto?
[10:58] <unix_infidel> does qtparted work well with resizing ntfs partitions?
[10:58] <octan> unix_infidel, i woundent put a bet on it
[10:58] <draik> main2,  says that they are both installed and up to day
[10:58] <draik> *date
[10:59] <octan> unix_infidel, i know partition magic works well.. but thats win32 app
[11:00] <unix_infidel> octan: heh, i remember doing it with a mandriva live cd :)
[11:00] <unix_infidel> but now i'm trying to find a bit better app that's FOSS.
[11:01] <JohnFlux> unix_infidel: it does
[11:01] <JohnFlux> octan: it does
[11:01] <octan> heh,, but you wount know before you try it
[11:01] <unix_infidel> JohnFlux: you've experienced no major problems with the Kubuntu live cd and qtparted with resizing an ntfs partition?
[11:02] <JohnFlux> unix_infidel: not tried that specifically, but i've resized ntfs before with no problems
[11:02] <unix_infidel> with qtparted?
[11:02] <unix_infidel> JohnFlux: ^
[11:02] <swamptu> Q: I am using samba...i can see the external drive i am tring to share in windows workgroup but i cannot access it, any ideas?
[11:03] <octan> swamptu, userissue
[11:03] <octan> winbind?
[11:03] <draik> Where do I get nvidia updates for my graphics card?
[11:03] <octan> nvidia.com :P
[11:04] <swamptu> what is winbind?
[11:04] <draik> been there octan, but nothing on my card
[11:04] <JohnFlux> unix_infidel: right
[11:05] <unix_infidel> JohnFlux: gparted doesnt have that option does it?
[11:05] <octan> swamptu, in not sure.. its something.... lol.. networking ait my thing :P
[11:05] <octan> i just have my samba working :P using webmin to configure it with :)
[11:05] <swamptu> mine works for everything except my external drive
[11:05] <octan> draik compare versions then
[11:06] <draik> how?
[11:06] <octan> run nvidia-settings?`
[11:07] <JohnFlux> unix_infidel: not according to its website
[11:09] <draik> octan, that doesn't do anything but open a settings box  about options, nothing about version
[11:09] <octan> oki
[11:10] <octan> nvidia-installer  :P
[11:11] <octan> glxinfo |grep Ope
[11:11] <draik> command not found
[11:11] <octan> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.62)
[11:12] <draik> Nothing with nvidia on it
[11:12] <octan> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:12] <draik> octan, that's already installed
[11:12] <octan> hu?
[11:12] <draik> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[11:13] <draik> how do you run a   .run    file?
[11:13] <octan> sudo apt-get install libgitz-glx1
[11:14] <octan> & sudo apt-get install mesa
[11:14] <draik> E: Couldn't find package libgitz-glx1
[11:15] <draik> E: Couldn't find package mesa
[11:15] <octan> & sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[11:15] <octan> draik, your repo sucx
[11:15] <draik> lol, sorry
[11:15] <octan> :P
[11:17] <amadeus> What is the command in Konsole to edit repositories?
[11:17] <draik> octan http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23249
[11:17] <octan> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sourse.list ??
[11:18] <Dannilion> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <draik> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <Dannilion> or draiks (whick I use :P)
[11:18] <octan> sorry pastebin wount load here.. paste it somewhere else
[11:18] <draik> where?
[11:18] <octan> no
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[11:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:18] <draik> no?
[11:19] <octan> wait
[11:19] <draik> ok
[11:20] <octan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23257
[11:20] <amadeus> And if I'm adding a repository, do i add it to the bottom of the list?
[11:21] <draik> http://www.draikkunderlord.com/sources.list
[11:21] <amadeus> Does it matter?
[11:21] <draik> octan ^^
[11:21] <little_caesar> is there a way I can change the logo in my KDE menu?
[11:21] <DonDma> Hello everybody
[11:21] <little_caesar> I don't want that blue K. I want the Kubuntu logo instead
[11:22] <octan> fix your list and do apt-get update.. then run thouse commands so you can dl the files
[11:22] <DonDma> Can you explain me how can I install a program ?
[11:22] <soulrider> DonDma: what do you wanna install ?
[11:23] <amadeus> thanks octan
[11:23] <soulrider> amadeus: it doesnt matter
[11:23] <DonDma> The program is something like msn for windows, you know a clon of it...
[11:23] <DonDma> amsn-0.96RC1.tar.gz is the name
[11:24] <soulrider> ahh
[11:24] <soulrider> well, kopete come sinstalled so you can use it
[11:24] <soulrider> but
[11:24] <soulrider> i think aMSN is int he repositories
[11:24] <soulrider> if so you just gotta do
[11:24] <soulrider> sudo apt.get install amsn
[11:24] <little_caesar> is there a way I can change the KDE square in my main menu to the Kubuntu logo?
[11:25] <soulrider> little_caesar: i dont know
[11:25] <soulrider> howa bout asking in #kde
[11:25] <DonDma> thanks
[11:25] <little_caesar> ok
[11:25] <little_caesar> thanks
[11:25] <soulrider> DonDma: if you downlaoded a tar.gz file
[11:25] <soulrider> all you gotta do
[11:25] <soulrider> is extarct it to a folder
[11:25] <soulrider> =)
[11:25] <DonDma> yes, tell me
[11:25] <soulrider> you dont need to install like in redmond
[11:25] <soulrider> if its a source though, you have to sompile it
[11:26] <oslo> #kde-fr
[11:26] <DonDma> how can I do that?
[11:26] <oslo> oups
[11:26] <soulrider> first you need to tools for compiling
[11:26] <amadeus> Whenever i add the repository to download the latest version of amarok, and i run the adept updater after doing the sudo apt-get update command, adept downloads the update for amarok but it doesnt install it. what could the problem be?
[11:26] <soulrider> open up a console and do
[11:26] <DonDma> tell me
[11:26] <soulrider> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:26] <soulrider> that will install allt he tools needed
[11:27] <soulrider> do you know if its compiled or if it is a source?
[11:27] <DonDma> No idea man
[11:28] <soulrider> ok, give me their website and ill check
[11:28] <DonDma> I see couple of .tcl , files
[11:28] <amadeus> Can anyone help me?
[11:28] <soulrider> uhm
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> !ask
[11:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:28] <soulrider> it doesnt install ? maybe its installed already
[11:28] <DonDma> http://www.abcdatos.com/programas/programa/l3794.html
[11:28] <soulrider> DonDma:  espaol ?
[11:29] <amadeus> nope, amarok shows that it's still the old version
[11:29] <DonDma> Yeah, understand? or should I find a english version for you?
[11:29] <soulrider> no, yo hablo espaol, pero mejor hablamos por PM antes de que nos corran del canal :P
[11:30] <DonDma> Ok
[11:30] <soulrider> amadeus: did you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:31] <amadeus> soulrider: no, let me do that now
[11:31] <soulrider> ahh
[11:31] <heras> Hi
[11:31] <soulrider> what you did was update the repos, but not download the actual updates
[11:31] <host-one_> what is the command to find my kernel version?
[11:31] <trappist> host-one_: uname -r
[11:32] <amadeus> soulrider: ok so how do i actually download the actual updates?
[11:32] <soulrider> you do it with
[11:32] <soulrider> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:32] <soulrider> that will downlaod all updates
[11:32] <soulrider> from everything
[11:32] <amadeus> it said that the following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-zine
[11:32] <soulrider> =/
[11:32] <amadeus> yeah..
[11:33] <soulrider> i dunno what that means =/
[11:33] <DonDma> Hey soulrider, I can send you messages by PM, did you see the file we were talking about?
[11:33] <DonDma> I can't,
[11:33] <soulrider> register with the server
[11:33] <soulrider> do /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[11:34] <DonDma> in this window?
[11:34] <soulrider> then do /msg nickserv identify <password>
[11:34] <soulrider> yea, any widnwo
[11:34] <soulrider> dont forget the /
[11:35] <amadeus> adept notifier also keeps showing me that there are two updates available: the two amarok packages that i have to download
[11:35] <frojnd> hello
[11:35] <frojnd> I have prob. with mozilla
[11:35] <frojnd> when I go to youtube,com
[11:35] <soulrider> try updating witht he adept notifier and see what happens
[11:35] <frojnd> it doesn't play music :S
[11:35] <frojnd> I installed macromedia
[11:35] <amadeus> i've tried with the notifier
[11:35] <amadeus> to no avail
[11:36] <frojnd> but at the end: flNOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[11:36] <frojnd>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[11:36] <soulrider> DonDma:  downlaod this: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/amsn/amsn_0.96RC1-1kubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:36] <frojnd> is this the reasin It can't play sound?
[11:36] <soulrider> then right click the file and in actions click on install
[11:36] <heras> I've got a minor problem with window focus.
[11:36] <amadeus> ok let me try that now
[11:36] <heras> When I place a terminal on top of my browser and scroll the browser the keyboard focus is no longer with the terminal and I need to click it before I can type in it. Any way to keep kb focus with the terminal?
[11:37] <soulrider> heras, AFAIK its supposed to work thatw ay =/
[11:37] <amadeus> it didnt go etther
[11:37] <soulrider> but you can just do alt+tab
[11:37] <amadeus> either
[11:37] <soulrider> and returnt he focus tot he console
[11:38] <heras> soulrider: under gnome the focus stays with the terminal, neat feature
[11:38] <soulrider> =O
[11:38] <heras> Under desktop -> windows behavior there are 10.000 option and I don't understand them
[11:39] <draik> octan, I keep getting errors with your sources.list
[11:39] <soulrider> lol, hang on
[11:39] <octan> what errors?
[11:39] <octan> i dont have errors with it
[11:39] <draik> mostly breaks
[11:39] <draik> from openoffice.org
[11:39] <draik> Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 2.0.3-6dapper2) but 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 is to be installed
[11:40] <octan> dont use em tho
[11:40] <draik> and then there are others that just won't install
[11:40] <octan> hmm
[11:40] <octan> your to outdated :P
[11:40] <draik> I tried    sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[11:40] <octan> o.O
[11:41] <draik> I thought maybe it'd fix or something, but nope
[11:42] <frojnd> Why my mozilla on kubuntu doesn't play sound www.youtube.com (I installed macromedia flasplayer but still nothing - at the end of the installation was a note: NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[11:42] <frojnd>   components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[11:43] <frojnd> any ideas how to make mozilla play sound?
[11:43] <draik> octan, what do you suggest?
[11:43] <draik> remove my sources completely and just use yours?
[11:44] <octan> sudo apt-get update !upgrade
[11:44] <draik> bash: !upgrade: event not found
[11:44] <octan> err
[11:44] <octan> i mean dont use upgrade first
[11:44] <octan> use update first
[11:45] <draik> many errors here
[11:45] <octan> what errors?
[11:46] <octan> check that there are no clone names in the file
[11:46] <octan> duplicated names
[11:47] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23262
[11:47] <little_caesar> how do I change the color of my titlebar? I don't want it to be blue
[11:47] <octan> told YA
[11:47] <trappist> frojnd: check out the RestrictedFormats page - there's a bit on there about that
[11:47] <draik> about to change that
[11:47] <Thehound> you guys need to give that info out so much that you decided to make a page and save lots of time lol
[11:48] <octan> delete the lines that exist more than 1 time
[11:48] <heinkel_111> Can you play .wma (windows media audio files) on 64 bit kubuntu?
[11:49] <trappist> heinkel_111: I can, with the help of a 32bit chroot
[11:49] <heinkel_111> yes, everyone ahs told me so
[11:49] <heinkel_111> but i just do it!
[11:49] <heinkel_111> and it works. i ahve no idea how, buit i guess there must be something with the new amaroK?
[11:49] <Thehound> I'd think so but I'd just convert them to something standard on the Windows install, then upload them to the nix pc
[11:50] <trappist> Thehound: assuming there's a windows install
[11:50] <heinkel_111> trappist: i have amaroK  version 1.4.2
[11:50] <Thehound> yeah seems I may only need Windows for gaming, once I get the hang of this
[11:51] <trappist> heinkel_111: I don't know how amaroK handles them - I don't have any in my collection
[11:51] <trappist> Thehound: I'm perfectly happy slimming my list of games down a little, and doing all my gaming on linux
[11:52] <Thehound> has anyone got FFXI to run(my favourite game) as of yet?
[11:52] <frojnd> trappist frojnd: check out the RestrictedFormats page - there's a bit on there about that   where can I do this?
[11:52] <Thehound> hear its protections prevent WINE from running it
[11:52] <trappist> frojnd: search for RestrictedFormats on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <trappist> frojnd: a lot of modern games pretty much require cedega, to handle the copy protection
[11:55] <little_caesar> How can I give myself permissions to change my own damn account avatar?
[11:56] <little_caesar> well?
[11:57] <heras> What account avatar?
[11:57] <trappist> oh why not, I'll take a stab.  sudo chown -R little_caesar ~/.gaim
[11:58] <little_caesar> gaim?
[11:58] <little_caesar> no, I mean like on "user accounts"
[11:58] <little_caesar> in kubuntu
[11:58] <little_caesar> lol
[11:58] <trappist> oh, there's an open bug on that
[11:58] <trappist> iirc
[11:59] <little_caesar> ok
[11:59] <GNUrante> when Edgy Knot test 3 will be released? Today?
[12:00] <Gmalex> GNUrante: you're a genious
[12:01] <GNUrante> Gmalex: thnx! =)
[12:02] <frojnd> so there is actually chance to upgrade my 5.10 kubuntu on 6.10 without making iso CD ?
[12:03] <Hawkwind> !upgrade
[12:03] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:04] <obf213> how can i get amarok to index m4a files
[12:04] <obf213> so they show up under artists.
[12:04] <frojnd> https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/kubuntu/krelease-notes/C/document.html#releasenotes-upgradenotes  (and this one is for KUBUNTU ?) Hawkwind
[12:04] <JohnFlux> what can I do to check the SMART status of my hard disks?
[12:04] <admin__> hello
[12:05] <frojnd> !upgrade kubuntu
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgrade kubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <admin__> hello people, i need your help
[12:05] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: You mean something like smartmontools ?
[12:05] <Hawkwind> frojnd: It's all the same basically
[12:05] <frojnd> aha
[12:05] <frojnd> ok
[12:05] <Hawkwind> frojnd: I'd use the URL's the bot gave you though first
[12:05] <frojnd> ok
[12:06] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: right
[12:06] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: i couldn't find it in apt-cache search
[12:06] <JohnFlux> er
[12:06] <JohnFlux> doh
[12:06] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: It's smartmontools is the name of the package
[12:06] <JohnFlux> i looked like 4 times
[12:06] <heinkel_111> admin__: what?
[12:06] <JohnFlux> and now i just looked I saw it P
[12:07] <Hawkwind> Then I think it's sudo /etc/init.d/smartd start
[12:07] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: I'm the maintainer for ksysgaurd
[12:07] <JohnFlux> ksysguard
[12:07] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: I want to add smart monitoring to that
[12:07] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: I've never used ksysguard mainly because I don't use KDE.  I have heard decent things about it though
[12:07] <Vanique> ./media/D/Muzyka/music/kazik - odpad atomowy.mp3
[12:08] <DonDma> Hey guys, do you know something about html programming?
[12:08] <JohnFlux> Hawkwind: what are you doing in kubuntu :P
[12:08] <Hawkwind> trappist: How's the new version of IPKF coming along ?
[12:08] <admin__> Sorry, I don't know anything about color for text in HTML
[12:08] <Hawkwind> JohnFlux: I use Kubuntu, just not KDE.  I can stand KDE a lot better than Gnome.  I use E17 exclusively as my window manager of choice
[12:08] <heras> JohnFlux:
[12:08] <heras> sudo apt-cache search montools
[12:08] <heras> Password:
[12:08] <heras> smartmontools - control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T
[12:09] <admin__> i need help for elements of HTML
[12:09] <JohnFlux> heras: yeah found it now