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| Gargoyle | I made my first wiki page | 12:47 |
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| Gargoyle | MySQLVirtualEmail | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 12:48 |
| Gargoyle | I tried to keep it short and link to existing pages where possible. | 12:48 |
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| Gargoyle | any feedback and comments would be much appriciated | 12:48 |
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| Burgwork | Gargoyle, email the -doc and ask for feedback | 01:14 |
| Gargoyle | will do, just going to make a diagram for DB overview | 01:14 |
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| mpt | glatzor, which union? | 09:52 |
| glatzor | mpt: the one that fights for your rights! | 09:53 |
| Madpilot | International Brotherhood of Nominal Ubuntu-docteam Members Who Aren't Doing Much Docteam Work? That's my current union | 09:53 |
| mpt | glatzor, I thought they all did that | 09:54 |
| === glatzor is a proud member of the Verdi union, since they increased his vacations from 20 to 28 days a year! | ||
| mpt | ah | 09:54 |
| Madpilot | I should be more polite about unions, I'm still on the executive of our local of CUPE :) | 09:55 |
| glatzor | mpt: No, not here in Germany. There are some quite strange unions here around. Especially the Christian ones. | 09:55 |
| Madpilot | Christian unions? wha? | 09:55 |
| mpt | glatzor, I couldn't tell whether it was a serious political exhortation, or some sort of movie reference :-) | 09:56 |
| mpt | Perhaps "Join *a* union" | 09:56 |
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| Plug | mpt: join the supermarket distribution staff union, perhaps | 10:58 |
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| nixternal | jjesse: ping a ling | 06:33 |
| jjesse | nixternal: pong | 06:43 |
| nixternal | hey..i found some more people interested in helping out with Kubuntu docs...remember the guys who were talking about a new "Kubuntu Support TEam"? | 06:44 |
| jjesse | yeah? | 06:44 |
| nixternal | they are interested in helping out..i provided them will all the info they need to get the repos local, and to learn docbook and what not | 06:44 |
| jjesse | awesome | 06:44 |
| jjesse | more power to them | 06:44 |
| nixternal | im telling people that they can just fire me plain text and i will work it in if it fits as well | 06:44 |
| jjesse | is there a launchpad team yet? | 06:44 |
| nixternal | no, just a wiki page for them | 06:44 |
| jjesse | ok, how do i join ? | 06:45 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSupportTeam | 06:45 |
| nixternal | i added my name on the bottom as a Doc Team PoC you should do the same..that way there they have 2 of us to hit up | 06:45 |
| jsgotangco | lol i read that as KubuntuSportsTeam | 06:45 |
| nixternal | hahah | 06:46 |
| nixternal | we need one of those too | 06:46 |
| nixternal | Kubuntu Softball Team | 06:46 |
| jjesse | grin i would play | 06:46 |
| nixternal | that would be quite comical to add that to a wiki page and see if anyone picks up on it | 06:46 |
| jsgotangco | there is a gnome world cup | 06:47 |
| nixternal | we would own gnome ;) | 06:47 |
| Burgwork | nixternal, you can only dream... | 06:47 |
| nixternal | haha | 06:47 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 06:47 |
| jjesse | hands down kubunu would whip ubuntu ;) | 06:47 |
| nixternal | jjesse is a pro baller, im the "Big Hurt" of the team | 06:47 |
| jjesse | how do you make a link on the wiki to a sub page? | 06:48 |
| jjesse | my team won the church softball league this year | 06:48 |
| nixternal | [:blah/blah: here you go] | 06:48 |
| nixternal | or [:blah/blah:] | 06:48 |
| nixternal | or | 06:48 |
| nixternal | blah/blah | 06:48 |
| jsgotangco | Burgwork: i need your opinion on this statement | 06:48 |
| Burgwork | jsgotangco, shoot | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | SECTION 8. Right to Derivatives and the Control and Modification of Software | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | Government shall obtain full rights and control over derivatives, modifications and | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | customizations done by government on software that it uses and adopts, provided that | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | government does not use said modified software nor its derivatives for commercial purposes. | 06:49 |
| jsgotangco | do i hear you laughing so hard now | 06:51 |
| Burgwork | is that from that new bill for OSS in your country? | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 06:51 |
| jsgotangco | doesn't make any sense huh | 06:52 |
| Burgwork | I read that as the gov't owns you | 06:52 |
| jsgotangco | yep | 06:52 |
| Burgwork | and now they own your code too | 06:52 |
| jsgotangco | yep | 06:52 |
| jjesse | i read that as wow | 06:52 |
| jsgotangco | completely against section 5 of GPLv2 | 06:52 |
| Burgwork | lawmakers really don't get open source, even when they try | 06:52 |
| jsgotangco | so i said screw you im not supporting your bill | 06:52 |
| nixternal | how can the government not use it for something other than "commercial purposes"...we all knwo they are about money and commercialising ;) | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | i told them use PD or else the world will have you as the new FOSS laughing stock | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | only because of that dumb section 8 of the draft | 06:53 |
| Burgwork | yes, PD is best | 06:53 |
| jsgotangco | you want the final draft of the bill? | 06:53 |
| Burgwork | it is, after all, being produced with the "people's money" | 06:53 |
| Burgwork | sure, email it to me | 06:54 |
| jsgotangco | everything is fine except section 8 which says "all your base are belong to us" | 06:54 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 06:54 |
| jsgotangco | Burgwork: i've forwarded it to you, feel free to pass it to anyone interested | 06:56 |
| jsgotangco | im not really happy that the primary reasons for the bill is "cost" | 06:57 |
| Burgwork | hmm | 06:57 |
| jsgotangco | it makes some sense to have it amend the existing patent law | 06:58 |
| jjesse | hello LaserJock | 06:59 |
| jsgotangco | alright im gonna sleep i had my dose of fun tonight | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | hi jjesse | 07:08 |
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| Gerrit_ | hi | 07:44 |
| LaserJock | hi | 07:44 |
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| philbull | Hi guys | 07:47 |
| jjesse | hello philbull | 07:48 |
| philbull | hey jjesse | 07:49 |
| philbull | how do we get sfw into ubuntu-docs? | 07:49 |
| philbull | it's just about ready | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | is it in the doc team repo? | 07:52 |
| philbull | yep | 07:52 |
| philbull | just one last patch before DSF | 07:53 |
| philbull | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/switching/C/ | 07:55 |
| Burgwork | last thing we need is a change to the make file to buidl it | 07:56 |
| jjesse | spend more time tweaking and ready as well :) | 07:57 |
| jjesse | it does look great philbull | 07:57 |
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| trappist | docteam.ubuntu.com doesn't get a legit cert? | 07:58 |
| jjesse | now we need to tweak for kubuntu for edgy +1 maybe | 07:58 |
| philbull | :) | 07:58 |
| philbull | we're frozen for Knot 3 now, aren't we? | 08:00 |
| jjesse | btw you've done a great job philbull | 08:00 |
| philbull | thanks jjesse, couldnt have done it without you + nixternal | 08:00 |
| Burgwork | philbull, pretty much | 08:00 |
| jjesse | philbull: the docs aren't going itno the knots that i am aware of | 08:00 |
| jjesse | so you can commit | 08:01 |
| philbull | but what needs to be modified to get SFW to build? | 08:01 |
| philbull | as Burgwork said, is it a nasty makefile job? | 08:01 |
| jjesse | just a make file change | 08:02 |
| jjesse | located at trunk/ubuntu/makefile if i recall correctly | 08:02 |
| jjesse | create something to build sfw and then change the make all command to include SFW | 08:03 |
| philbull | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/Makefile | 08:03 |
| philbull | how do docs get built? | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | for what? | 08:04 |
| jjesse | from the make file | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | for the packages it's in debian/ | 08:04 |
| jjesse | along w/ the stylesheets and html they get packaged into a ubuntu-docs packages | 08:04 |
| philbull | say we copy the makefile bits for the server guide... | 08:04 |
| philbull | ...can we just replace 'SERVER' with 'SFW'? | 08:05 |
| trappist | the kubuntu release notes say that gdm only allows shutdown/restart without logging out first if you use gnome, and that kdm only allows it with kde. That doesn't seem to be the case. I have logout/shutdown options in kde though I'm using gdm. can anyone confirm? | 08:06 |
| jjesse | hold on virtual machines restarting | 08:08 |
| LaserJock | trappist: I think so | 08:10 |
| trappist | LaserJock: you think so it's wrong? | 08:13 |
| jjesse | i have in order "End Current Session" "Turn off Computer", "Restart Computer", "Hibernate" in edgy | 08:14 |
| trappist | do they work? | 08:17 |
| jjesse | yes they do | 08:18 |
| trappist | awesome, thanks | 08:20 |
| jjesse | are you going to change the doc then? | 08:20 |
| trappist | that was the plan - did I miss a freeze? | 08:21 |
| jjesse | nope | 08:21 |
| jjesse | doc freeze is gcomming | 08:21 |
| trappist | good deal | 08:21 |
| trappist | who is james troup and where can I get his gpg pubkey? I'm on a new machine and my svn password is no longer cached, and I'm not on the same box where I imported the key to begin with (so I can access my password in email) | 08:28 |
| Burgwork | hmm | 08:28 |
| Burgwork | you know your svn password is stored in plaintext on that old machine | 08:28 |
| Burgwork | you can simply copy the config into | 08:28 |
| jjesse | where is it stored? in the .svn some place? | 08:28 |
| trappist | well the new machine is pretty well history :) | 08:29 |
| Burgwork | somewhere in the home dir | 08:29 |
| Burgwork | did you lose your key as well? | 08:29 |
| trappist | I should be able to look at the keychain on my other box and find it there... | 08:29 |
| jjesse | grin that's the problem i'm having w/ my svn as well | 08:29 |
| Burgwork | take your private key, export it and burn it onto a cd and hide it in your cd collection | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 08:30 |
| trappist | I've got my private key well cared for | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | and don't leave it in the back window of you car on a hot day ;-) | 08:30 |
| trappist | just have to find james' pubkey | 08:30 |
| Burgwork | look on lp | 08:30 |
| trappist | good call | 08:31 |
| trappist | doesn't seem to be there | 08:32 |
| trappist | ok got it | 08:36 |
| jjesse | where did you get it from/ | 08:36 |
| trappist | apparently I already had it, and kmail was just sucking. worked fine on the command line. | 08:37 |
| trappist | or, I didn't need it to begin with | 08:37 |
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| trappist | his pubkey id is AB2A91F5 (for posterity) | 08:39 |
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| Gerrit_ | cu | 09:35 |
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| nixternal | jjesse: that patch, what is it for? | 09:47 |
| jjesse | installation.xml for SFW | 09:55 |
| nixternal | kubuntu side or ubuntu side? | 09:56 |
| jjesse | ubuntu was any work done on kubuntu side of things? | 09:56 |
| nixternal | im guessing ubuntu, as the kubuntu side is rather naked ;) | 09:56 |
| nixternal | heh, we have talked about it..i had no clue though until recently that we were doing an Ubuntu version and a Kubuntu version | 09:56 |
| jjesse | well we will have to do one eventually | 09:57 |
| jjesse | but probablly for edgy +1 | 09:57 |
| jjesse | as i don't know if we have time to get it done before doc freeze? | 09:57 |
| nixternal | done ;) | 09:59 |
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| ompaul | Burgwork, can you cast your mind back a while, do you remember something about hda1 (in this case) showing up as removable drives on the desktop - I can't seem to even find pointers to it | 10:39 |
| ompaul | where ubuntu was installed in hdb | 10:40 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, well there is a bug that the mounted parititions are showing up on the desktop | 10:40 |
| ompaul | thats the one | 10:41 |
| ompaul | okay that is a better phrase for it :) | 10:41 |
| Burgwork | they are also showing up twice, currently | 10:41 |
| ompaul | ooch | 10:41 |
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