=== jono [n=jono@88-107-5-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gargoyle [n=gargoyle@pdpc/supporter/student/Gargoyle] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:47] I made my first wiki page [12:47] MySQLVirtualEmail [12:48] \o/ [12:48] I tried to keep it short and link to existing pages where possible. === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:48] any feedback and comments would be much appriciated === mpt [n=mpt@203-167-187-118.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:14] Gargoyle, email the -doc and ask for feedback [01:14] will do, just going to make a diagram for DB overview === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-246-239.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@HSE-Ottawa-ppp325960.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@210.4.11.66] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-246-239.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-246-239.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-246-239.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-82-91.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-82-91.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:52] glatzor, which union? [09:53] mpt: the one that fights for your rights! [09:53] International Brotherhood of Nominal Ubuntu-docteam Members Who Aren't Doing Much Docteam Work? That's my current union [09:54] glatzor, I thought they all did that === glatzor is a proud member of the Verdi union, since they increased his vacations from 20 to 28 days a year! [09:54] ah [09:55] I should be more polite about unions, I'm still on the executive of our local of CUPE :) [09:55] mpt: No, not here in Germany. There are some quite strange unions here around. Especially the Christian ones. [09:55] Christian unions? wha? [09:56] glatzor, I couldn't tell whether it was a serious political exhortation, or some sort of movie reference :-) [09:56] Perhaps "Join *a* union" === jono [n=jono@88-107-5-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:58] mpt: join the supermarket distribution staff union, perhaps === mpt [n=mpt@203-167-187-118.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Laser_away [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-82-91.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:33] jjesse: ping a ling [06:43] nixternal: pong [06:44] hey..i found some more people interested in helping out with Kubuntu docs...remember the guys who were talking about a new "Kubuntu Support TEam"? [06:44] yeah? [06:44] they are interested in helping out..i provided them will all the info they need to get the repos local, and to learn docbook and what not [06:44] awesome [06:44] more power to them [06:44] im telling people that they can just fire me plain text and i will work it in if it fits as well [06:44] is there a launchpad team yet? [06:44] no, just a wiki page for them [06:45] ok, how do i join ? [06:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSupportTeam [06:45] i added my name on the bottom as a Doc Team PoC you should do the same..that way there they have 2 of us to hit up [06:45] lol i read that as KubuntuSportsTeam [06:46] hahah [06:46] we need one of those too [06:46] Kubuntu Softball Team [06:46] grin i would play [06:46] that would be quite comical to add that to a wiki page and see if anyone picks up on it [06:47] there is a gnome world cup [06:47] we would own gnome ;) [06:47] nixternal, you can only dream... [06:47] haha [06:47] yeah [06:47] hands down kubunu would whip ubuntu ;) [06:47] jjesse is a pro baller, im the "Big Hurt" of the team [06:48] how do you make a link on the wiki to a sub page? [06:48] my team won the church softball league this year [06:48] [:blah/blah: here you go] [06:48] or [:blah/blah:] [06:48] or [06:48] blah/blah [06:48] Burgwork: i need your opinion on this statement [06:49] jsgotangco, shoot [06:49] SECTION 8. Right to Derivatives and the Control and Modification of Software [06:49] Government shall obtain full rights and control over derivatives, modifications and [06:49] customizations done by government on software that it uses and adopts, provided that [06:49] government does not use said modified software nor its derivatives for commercial purposes. [06:51] do i hear you laughing so hard now [06:51] is that from that new bill for OSS in your country? [06:51] yeah [06:52] doesn't make any sense huh [06:52] I read that as the gov't owns you [06:52] yep [06:52] and now they own your code too [06:52] yep [06:52] i read that as wow [06:52] completely against section 5 of GPLv2 [06:52] lawmakers really don't get open source, even when they try [06:52] so i said screw you im not supporting your bill [06:53] how can the government not use it for something other than "commercial purposes"...we all knwo they are about money and commercialising ;) [06:53] i told them use PD or else the world will have you as the new FOSS laughing stock [06:53] only because of that dumb section 8 of the draft [06:53] yes, PD is best [06:53] you want the final draft of the bill? [06:53] it is, after all, being produced with the "people's money" [06:54] sure, email it to me [06:54] everything is fine except section 8 which says "all your base are belong to us" [06:54] hahaha [06:56] Burgwork: i've forwarded it to you, feel free to pass it to anyone interested [06:57] im not really happy that the primary reasons for the bill is "cost" [06:57] hmm [06:58] it makes some sense to have it amend the existing patent law [06:59] hello LaserJock [07:01] alright im gonna sleep i had my dose of fun tonight [07:08] hi jjesse === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gerrit_ [n=Gerrit@u-4-180.vpn.RWTH-Aachen.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:44] hi [07:44] hi === philbull [n=philbull@84.13.247.163] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:47] Hi guys [07:48] hello philbull [07:49] hey jjesse [07:49] how do we get sfw into ubuntu-docs? [07:49] it's just about ready [07:52] is it in the doc team repo? [07:52] yep [07:53] just one last patch before DSF [07:55] https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/switching/C/ [07:56] last thing we need is a change to the make file to buidl it [07:57] spend more time tweaking and ready as well :) [07:57] it does look great philbull === gaz00 [n=gaz00@HSE-Toronto-ppp295225.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:58] docteam.ubuntu.com doesn't get a legit cert? [07:58] now we need to tweak for kubuntu for edgy +1 maybe [07:58] :) [08:00] we're frozen for Knot 3 now, aren't we? [08:00] btw you've done a great job philbull [08:00] thanks jjesse, couldnt have done it without you + nixternal [08:00] philbull, pretty much [08:00] philbull: the docs aren't going itno the knots that i am aware of [08:01] so you can commit [08:01] but what needs to be modified to get SFW to build? [08:01] as Burgwork said, is it a nasty makefile job? [08:02] just a make file change [08:02] located at trunk/ubuntu/makefile if i recall correctly [08:03] create something to build sfw and then change the make all command to include SFW [08:03] https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/Makefile [08:03] how do docs get built? [08:04] for what? [08:04] from the make file [08:04] for the packages it's in debian/ [08:04] along w/ the stylesheets and html they get packaged into a ubuntu-docs packages [08:04] say we copy the makefile bits for the server guide... [08:05] ...can we just replace 'SERVER' with 'SFW'? [08:06] the kubuntu release notes say that gdm only allows shutdown/restart without logging out first if you use gnome, and that kdm only allows it with kde. That doesn't seem to be the case. I have logout/shutdown options in kde though I'm using gdm. can anyone confirm? [08:08] hold on virtual machines restarting [08:10] trappist: I think so [08:13] LaserJock: you think so it's wrong? [08:14] i have in order "End Current Session" "Turn off Computer", "Restart Computer", "Hibernate" in edgy [08:17] do they work? [08:18] yes they do [08:20] awesome, thanks [08:20] are you going to change the doc then? [08:21] that was the plan - did I miss a freeze? [08:21] nope [08:21] doc freeze is gcomming [08:21] good deal [08:28] who is james troup and where can I get his gpg pubkey? I'm on a new machine and my svn password is no longer cached, and I'm not on the same box where I imported the key to begin with (so I can access my password in email) [08:28] hmm [08:28] you know your svn password is stored in plaintext on that old machine [08:28] you can simply copy the config into [08:28] where is it stored? in the .svn some place? [08:29] well the new machine is pretty well history :) [08:29] somewhere in the home dir [08:29] did you lose your key as well? [08:29] I should be able to look at the keychain on my other box and find it there... [08:29] grin that's the problem i'm having w/ my svn as well [08:29] take your private key, export it and burn it onto a cd and hide it in your cd collection [08:30] mhm [08:30] I've got my private key well cared for [08:30] and don't leave it in the back window of you car on a hot day ;-) [08:30] just have to find james' pubkey [08:30] look on lp [08:31] good call [08:32] doesn't seem to be there [08:36] ok got it [08:36] where did you get it from/ [08:37] apparently I already had it, and kmail was just sucking. worked fine on the command line. [08:37] or, I didn't need it to begin with === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:39] his pubkey id is AB2A91F5 (for posterity) === philbull [n=philbull@84.13.247.163] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [09:35] cu === Gerrit_ [n=Gerrit@u-4-180.vpn.RWTH-Aachen.de] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] [09:47] jjesse: that patch, what is it for? [09:55] installation.xml for SFW [09:56] kubuntu side or ubuntu side? [09:56] ubuntu was any work done on kubuntu side of things? [09:56] im guessing ubuntu, as the kubuntu side is rather naked ;) [09:56] heh, we have talked about it..i had no clue though until recently that we were doing an Ubuntu version and a Kubuntu version [09:57] well we will have to do one eventually [09:57] but probablly for edgy +1 [09:57] as i don't know if we have time to get it done before doc freeze? [09:59] done ;) === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [10:39] Burgwork, can you cast your mind back a while, do you remember something about hda1 (in this case) showing up as removable drives on the desktop - I can't seem to even find pointers to it [10:40] where ubuntu was installed in hdb [10:40] ompaul, well there is a bug that the mounted parititions are showing up on the desktop [10:41] thats the one [10:41] okay that is a better phrase for it :) [10:41] they are also showing up twice, currently [10:41] ooch