[01:01] <johnlittle> any thoughts on the shipit plan for edgy?
[01:02] <Burgwork> johnlittle, I like it
[01:02] <Burgwork> a little bit of everything
[01:02] <Burgwork> allowing purchasing of cds is a good thing
[01:04] <johnlittle> I like it but I told Jane that there should be a solid communications plan in place so it isn't spun as a retreat from the projects stated objective of keeping Ubuntu free
[01:04] <Burgwork> here is how I would spin it:
[01:05] <poningru> wait what?
[01:05] <Burgwork> Canonical is proud to announce the availablity of CDs for purchase, alongside the existing shipit program"
[01:05] <poningru> link?
[01:05] <johnlittle> poningru it was an email to the -marketing ML
[01:06] <poningru> sorry busy with sfd
[01:06] <Flannel> Burgwork: they going to ship alternate CDs again?
[01:06] <Burgwork> COO, Jane Silber said "For business and other groups who wish to sell Ubuntu cds, we are more than happy to provide them plenty of cds at a very nominal cost.
[01:06] <Burgwork> Flannel, no
[01:07] <Flannel> Burgwork: sigh.  Do they not realize people can't upgrade from Desktop ISOs?
[01:07] <johnlittle> burgwork: I think it's easy enough to talk up the positives we just have to be very clear about how the new system works and make it clear that it isnt a retreat
[01:07] <Burgwork> yep
[01:07] <Burgwork> johnlittle, absolutely
[01:07] <Burgwork> make it clear this is an addition, not something a subtraction
[01:07] <Burgwork> "due to large volume of requests for such a service"
[01:07] <johnlittle> yep..clear communication up front is better than damage control.
[01:08] <poningru> hehe
[01:08] <Burgwork> Flannel, I believe that is being fixed
[01:08] <Flannel> Burgwork: I'm no expert, but I believe it's not really fixable, without a major rewrite of the liveCD format -- it's an image instead of a bunch of packages, but again, I'm no expert
[01:09] <Burgwork> yes, it is an image
[01:09] <Burgwork> however, there is a dist-upgrader
[01:09] <Burgwork> check it out
[01:09] <Flannel> link? or what?
[01:10] <Burgwork> ask mvo
[01:10] <Burgwork> he knows more than I do, because he wrote it
[01:45] <johnlittle> burgwork: any progress on getting someone to handle the fridge admin work?
[01:45] <Burgwork> fridge admin? no, have not followed that up
[01:46] <Burgwork> would you be able to?
[01:49] <johnlittle> Yeah I could but they need someone they know - a member
[01:50] <Burgwork> poningru, it is not a bummer, just that it is boring ;)
[01:50] <Burgwork> however, very necessary
[01:50] <Burgwork> johnlittle, apply to be a member already. I will advocate for you, as will anybody else in the marketing team, I would imagine
[01:51] <johnlittle> I'm going to sign up for the next meeting
[01:51] <poningru> hehe
[01:51] <Burgwork> make sure you ping me
[01:52] <Burgwork> I have a habit of forgetting about the CC meetings
[01:59] <johnlittle> Burgwork: ok im officially on the agenda.
[02:00] <Burgwork> excellent
[02:00] <Burgwork> when is the next one?
[02:02] <Burgwork> poningru, can you start a Knot3 page?
[02:02] <Burgwork> johnlittle, elkbuntu could you?
[02:02] <Burgwork> my schedule is crazy busy until Thursday night, which is too late
[02:03] <poningru> sure
[02:03] <Burgwork> thanks
[02:04] <Burgwork> use the previous Knot pages as a template
[02:04] <poningru> yep
[02:04] <Burgwork> big stuff currentlly is GNOME 2.16 and new artwork
[02:05] <Burgwork> anyway, got to run
[02:05] <poningru> cya
[05:47] <adamant1988> hello everyone
[03:26] <kostkon> hi all
[03:27] <matthewrevell> hey
[03:29] <kostkon> i want to do a small marketing campaign. I want to print A4 posters with black-white laser printer and post the to my uni student billboards
[03:30] <matthewrevell> cool
[03:30] <matthewrevell> Have you joined our mailing list?
[03:30] <kostkon> i found these to use from this thread, I want to use these two designs, do you believe it's OK, anything better to offer. They are good for black-white printings. Links follows:
[03:31] <kostkon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1457125&postcount=6
[03:31] <MenZa> :o
[03:31] <matthewrevell> biab
[03:32] <kostkon> matthewrevell, biab?
[03:32] <MenZa> back in a bit.
[03:32] <MenZa> seen MitchM lately?
[03:32] <kostkon> MenZa, OK, got it
[03:41] <kostkon> anyone else? what do you think?
[03:41] <kostkon> ... nothing...
[03:42] <MenZa> I don't like it.
[03:42] <MenZa> I really liked that orange thingamajic someone posted on the forums.
[03:42] <kostkon> MenZa, come on, you came after i said what i said, you know? eh? :P
[03:42] <MenZa> :D
[03:43] <MenZa> Too much text.
[03:43] <MenZa> Not enough colour.
[03:43] <kostkon> sorry wrong, you menza the first guy
[03:43] <kostkon> anything better, then?
[03:43] <MenZa> Pardon?
[03:43] <kostkon> you're menza i mean
[03:44] <kostkon> forget it
[03:44] <kostkon> now about the posters
[03:44] <lophyte> I think they're not bad
[03:44] <MenZa> http://www.gasteropodica.net/ablage/ubuntu/ubuntu_idea01.jpg <- I like this one.
[03:44] <kostkon> MenZa, w8 to check
[03:45] <lophyte> MenZa: that'd look crappy in black and white :P
[03:45] <MenZa> That's why it's not to be black/white.
[03:45] <kostkon> MenZa, we talk about black white printing here
[03:45] <MenZa> It's going to have that tint.
[03:45] <MenZa> Oh?
[03:45] <MenZa> Why+
[03:45] <MenZa> ?
[03:46] <kostkon> MenZa, why what? why black-white?
[03:46] <MenZa> Why black and white, yes?
[03:46] <lophyte> MenZa: ever walked around downtown in a big city, and around construction sites, there's thousands of bills posted? I think that's what kostkon is aiming for
[03:46] <lophyte> those kinds of posters
[03:46] <kostkon> MenZa, because that the thing i got, black-white laser printer
[03:46] <MenZa> kostkon: well, we're aiming for professional printing (I work at a printer)
[03:46] <kostkon> MenZa, and the thing lophyte said
[03:46] <MenZa> With colours.
[03:47] <MenZa> And all the kaschnizzle.
[03:47] <kostkon> MenZa, yeah i understand, but I am trying to find something good for my case now
[03:47] <MenZa> Ah.
[03:47] <MenZa> I still think you need to cut down on the text.
[03:48] <lophyte> I don't.. I see tons of posters with lots of text, and people often read them
[03:48] <lophyte> there's *always* Salvador Dali posters and Dark Side of Oz posters
[03:48] <lophyte> and they have tons of text
[03:48] <MenZa> I'd reconsider my font in any case.
[03:48] <kostkon> MenZa, yeah, I would stop to read them if I was curious
[03:49] <lophyte> I guess its a matter of your locality.. I just know in Toronto, most of the posters have a lot of text
[03:50] <kostkon> Even this thread I gave you the link, aims to find the one poster to be printed by the marketing team, and yet no result, so I don't have many options and I don't want to wait so much
[03:50] <kostkon> and I am black and white
[03:50] <MenZa> kostkon: how about going to a printer to have them printed?
[03:50] <MenZa> It can't be that expensive.
[03:50] <kostkon> I am poor
[03:50] <MenZa> (Read: unless your printer is a complete dumbfuck, it isn't expensive)
[03:50] <kostkon> this says it all! LOL!
[03:50] <MenZa> Well
[03:51] <lophyte> you can print 1000 b&w posters here in the city for like $30
[03:51] <MenZa> $20 should get you 4 posters or so.
[03:51] <MenZa> lophyte: ...yes, of standard paper size.
[03:51] <lophyte> that's expensive :\
[03:51] <MenZa> On standard paper.
[03:51] <MenZa> That's not called a poster.
[03:51] <MenZa> That's called a print.
[03:51] <MenZa> A standard print.
[03:51] <lophyte> that's what he's talking about... standard A4 posters
[03:51] <MenZa> :|
[03:51] <MenZa> Yes, those are even less expensive.
[03:51] <kostkon> MenZa, I can give no more than 2, about $4? is going to be a cheap but effective (i hope) campaign
[03:52] <lophyte> I've been considering doing the same thing here...
[03:52] <MenZa> Mind, I don't think you can just hang them wherever you want to.
[03:52] <MenZa> You need permission :p
[03:52] <lophyte> printing off a ton of A4 posters
[03:52] <kostkon> MenZa, we have student billboards, no permission needed.
[03:52] <MenZa> kostkon: good idea :)
[03:52] <kostkon> MenZa, ;)
[03:52] <lophyte> we have certain lamp posts that are "Designated posting spots"
[03:53] <kostkon> lophyte, "lamp"??
[03:53] <MenZa> kostkon: if I were more familiar with the school I went to, I'd consider doing that aswell
[03:53] <lophyte> er.. you know.. street light posts...
[03:53] <lophyte> also used for overhead electrical cables :P
[03:53] <kostkon> lophyte, Ahh got confused, OK
[03:53] <kostkon> lophyte, yeah, OK
[03:53] <lophyte> :)
[03:54] <MenZa> !lamp
[03:54] <MenZa> ah, no bots :(
[03:54] <lophyte> I'm considering just doing up our own Ubuntu Toronto poster
[03:54] <kostkon> MenZa, LOL
[03:54] <lophyte> I'll have to add that to the meeting agenda
[03:54] <kostkon> lophyte, oh you mean location-based posters
[03:55] <kostkon> lophyte, i killed the sentence
[03:55] <kostkon> lophyte, you know what i mean
[03:55] <lophyte> yeah.. we have a Ubuntu users group in Toronto, so I figured we'd do up our own posters
[03:56] <kostkon> lophyte, that's great!! if you make a poster that would be more easily absorder by the local minds, it's great!!
[03:56] <lophyte> hopefully
[03:56] <kostkon> absorded*
[03:56] <kostkon> lophyte, now for me, I know compared to you, mine would be generic, is this good enough??!
[03:57] <kostkon> for a poster
[03:59] <kostkon> OK, anyway, I'll do it with these two. I wanted to take photos also, but no camera at this moment. I will not be able to have proof that I did that. Anyway, wish me luck.
[04:00] <kostkon> lophyte, is this enough to get me into the marketing team?! (just kidding). Seriously, I want to be a member.
[04:39] <lophyte> kostkon: then sign up :)
[04:48] <poningru> is it just me or are the forums a bit slow today?
[04:53] <poningru> ah ic the msg
[05:04] <kostkon> lophyte, ok i'll find a way
[05:04] <kostkon> lophyte, mailing list, forums, wiki
[05:16] <kostkon> poningru, the forums are slow every day!!
[05:16] <kostkon> anyway, see ya!!
[06:21] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/College
[06:35] <poningru> Burgwork: dude you mind if I add that to the marketing team table??
[06:37] <Burgwork> poningru, go nuts
[06:59] <nixternal> Sometimes there is already a club on campus to promote Free software. You may want to look into joining said club or making a team under it specifically for Ubuntu.
[06:59] <nixternal> good idea there poningru
[07:00] <nixternal> i did pretty much that...our campus has a LUG, and I am now the president ;) muhahaha the U in LUG will be for Ubuntu when I am through ;)
[07:09] <kostkon> nixternal, cool man, congratulations!
[07:09] <nixternal> hehe thanks
[09:48] <nixternal> http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/09/microsofts-answer-to-laptop-for-child.html