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| grexk | morning everyone | 12:45 |
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| Fujitsu | Morning. | 12:46 |
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| grexk | aga ni js | 12:49 |
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| jsgotangco | grexk: working from home | 12:53 |
| grexk | hehee | 12:53 |
| jsgotangco | grexk: have to make a school run in a few minutes see you in half an hour | 12:54 |
| grexk | ok | 12:54 |
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| huats_ | i am cross posting with #ubuntu-desktop... but may be this a the right place to ask for some help | 12:59 |
| huats_ | sorry to bother all of you... but I am a newbie, and I want to help... Right now i try to package a python soft.... but I don't see where to start. I mean, I've use dh_make to create the first septs. But I am not really sure how to make my Makefile... | 12:59 |
| Fujitsu | The upstream version should already have an installation mechanism... | 12:59 |
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| zul | ajmitch: around? | 01:03 |
| ajmitch | no | 01:06 |
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| ryanakca | erm... What do I add to debian/control for a LGPL (I usually copy paste when it's GPL from the packaging guide) | 01:34 |
| welshbyte | ryanakca: you mean debian/copyright? | 01:45 |
| ryanakca | yes, oops | 01:45 |
| ryanakca | typo | 01:45 |
| welshbyte | there's probably an LGPL summary similar to the GPL one somewhere, i doubt it's very different | 01:47 |
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| welshbyte | g'night | 01:48 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:12 |
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| Fujitsu | Hi imbrandon. | 02:32 |
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| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 03:48 |
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 03:49 |
| === ryanakca patiently waits for his iconset package to upload to REVU before bugging a MOTU | ||
| Hobbsee | lol | 03:51 |
| === imbrandon hides before it gets uploaded | ||
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| ryanakca | what is REVU on anywais? dialup?!?!? | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | usually | 03:52 |
| imbrandon | heh dinner time bbiab | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | it only updates every 5 min, iirc | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | hey seth | 03:52 |
| crimsun | are you making fun of my 28.8 kbps dialup? | 03:52 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: heh... lucky you... still uploading | 03:52 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: as a matter o'fact I am :P | 03:53 |
| ryanakca | lol | 03:53 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:53 |
| crimsun | yeah, well, see if I pay any attention to you. | 03:53 |
| ryanakca | fine! I will :P | 03:53 |
| ryanakca | lol | 03:53 |
| crimsun | ;p | 03:53 |
| seth | hi hi Hobbsee | 03:53 |
| ryanakca | "Uploading via ftp kde-icons-crystal-diamond_2.0.orig.tar.gz: " has been running for the past three minutes | 03:53 |
| ryanakca | and yes... I complain a lot :D | 03:54 |
| crimsun | yeah, well, don't even start. It takes me 30 minutes to download 5 megs. | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: you are uploading it to revu, right? and it's likely that your upload speed is slow | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | it's fast when i upload from imbrandon's machine | 03:54 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: yeah... but you aren't sending 20mb, eh? | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: well, yeah. not usually. | 03:55 |
| === Hobbsee has uploaded 18mb orig.tar.gz's from there before | ||
| ryanakca | most of the time, upload to revu is fast | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | needless to say, i didnt do it over my connection | 03:55 |
| Fujitsu | Gah. | 03:56 |
| Fujitsu | This ash211 character is going around assigning all my ubuntu-universe-sponsors bugs to MOTU. | 03:56 |
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| crimsun | beat the crikey out of him/her. | 03:56 |
| crimsun | (pardon the violence) | 03:57 |
| ryanakca | lol | 03:57 |
| crimsun | sorry, simplying being near checkinstall makes me very upset. | 03:57 |
| crimsun | (and destroys my grammar) | 03:57 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm? | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: and why are you near it? | 03:58 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:58 |
| Fujitsu | Haha. | 03:58 |
| crimsun | someone in #ubuntu wondered why a checkinstalled gtk theme wasn't working. | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: hah. right. | 03:58 |
| === Hobbsee prefers yada. | ||
| Hobbsee | that's still more evil :P | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | checkinstall *sometimes* works, after all. | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | oh, speaking of which. what's a good console-based download accelerator? | 03:59 |
| ryanakca | why do you need checkinstall for a GTK theme? I used to be able to just drag and drop the link on the install button... back in the days of un-enlightenment... *cough* | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | apparently there are lots better alternatives than prozilla | 03:59 |
| crimsun | ryanakca: people LOVE crack. | 03:59 |
| ryanakca | CGET I think is one... | 03:59 |
| imbrandon | wget ? | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | and a good connection ;) | 04:00 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:00 |
| ryanakca | typo | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | wget doesnt do threading | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | hi | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | most server dont allow more than one connection from a single ip anyhow so it dosent matter much | 04:00 |
| imbrandon | s/server/servers | 04:01 |
| ryanakca | just a second... I'll find you some... FF extension supports lots of them | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | ff == console based ? hehe | 04:01 |
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| ryanakca | imbrandon: no | 04:01 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, [20:59] <Hobbsee> oh, speaking of which. what's a good console-based download accelerator? | 04:01 |
| === ajmitch hugs Hobbsee | ||
| imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 04:02 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: but it CAN use console based download accelerators... | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: bigpond does. where do you think i get my ISO's from? | 04:02 |
| ryanakca | just like it can use KDE based ones (KGET) | 04:02 |
| ryanakca | (If I'm being ignorant, feel free to point it out) | 04:02 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: cURL | 04:03 |
| imbrandon | heh i still fail to see how firefox comes into the picture but that may be my ignorance while i wait for my noodles to cook | 04:03 |
| Hobbsee | right | 04:03 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: FlashGot, a FF extension can use console-based download accelerators. And yes, FF isn't console based | 04:04 |
| ryanakca | http://www.flashgot.net/whats | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, ok and ? ( my point was where did firefox even come into the convo hehe ) | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | ff dosent do much good over ssh ;) | 04:04 |
| imbrandon | unless you forward an xsession or soemthing but then i think its still borked iirc becosue ff starts locacly anyhow, but thats a ff bug | 04:05 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: she asked about download managers. I knew of a FF extension that supported a pile of them, so I said wait a second, I'll go get the list of download accelerators... some of them are console based, others no | 04:05 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: have you been around checkinstall as well? It looks like it has the same effects on you as on crimsun | 04:06 |
| imbrandon | i HATE checkinstall | 04:06 |
| imbrandon | yes | 04:06 |
| === Laser_away shivers | ||
| ryanakca | bad grammar... checkinstall = ick | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | ryanakca: please refrain from using profanity in this channel | 04:06 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:06 |
| imbrandon | wb LaserJock | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | *grumble*did somebody say "checkinstall"*grumble* | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | hrm ..... what to have with my noodles .... | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 04:07 |
| ryanakca | ajmitch: what? checkinstall is the bestest... | 04:07 |
| ryanakca | (sorry for the profanity, and the obvious sarcasm) | 04:07 |
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| ryanakca | yay, kick? | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | haha | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | hahah i was just lookign for the op button | 04:07 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:07 |
| === ryanakca twiddles | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o ajmitch] by ajmitch | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o imbrandon] by ChanServ | ||
| === ajmitch is too nice | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o imbrandon] by imbrandon | ||
| ryanakca | imbrandon: hey! | 04:08 |
| imbrandon | i dident know if i was on the access list in here also , was just checking | 04:08 |
| imbrandon | heh | 04:08 |
| ryanakca | you guys need to get a script that ops kicks deops in a second... | 04:08 |
| ryanakca | lol | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | I must confess, <the evil that can not be named> was my first experince with source packages | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | ryanakca: Hobbsee probably has one | 04:08 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, i do but i just wanted to check and i was being lazy no not msg chanserv access blah blah blah | 04:09 |
| ryanakca | I know seveas has one... but it's for XC**t... | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: i dont, Seveas does. | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon's writing one for konvi :) | 04:09 |
| micahcowan | Is there information somewhere on why exactly checkinstall sucks? I was under the impression that it was preferable to vanilla make install (haven't used checkinstall yet) | 04:09 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, i've been working on a python port of his chanserv.py for konv | 04:09 |
| Seveas | I tried looking at konversation | 04:09 |
| Seveas | it hurt too much | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:10 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 04:10 |
| Seveas | stupid dcop mess | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | micahcowan: only slightly. | 04:10 |
| ryanakca | well well... since I have all the MOTU awake... anybody mind looking at this iconset? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3094 | 04:10 |
| imbrandon | konv will use python , perl , bash , what ever, as long as you can dcop from it | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | Seveas: wants to | 04:10 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: it's based on that one we were talking about in kubuntu-devel the other day | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: oooh, the icons that mysteriously vanished a day later? | 04:10 |
| micahcowan | Does checkinstall tend to break or something? Or is it just in comparison to having a real .deb to install? | 04:11 |
| ryanakca | yes... they vanished again... he had release 3, I told myself I'd download them in the morning... they were gone... | 04:11 |
| Seveas | micahcowan, chances of breakage aren't unrealistic | 04:11 |
| === Hobbsee looks at it | ||
| imbrandon | micahcowan, both really, checkinstall is ok for YOUR OWN INSTALL but dont EVER EVER EVER EVER distribute a checkinstall deb | 04:12 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: debhelper needs a versioned dep of >=5, not 4 | 04:12 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: 'ok for your own install' is stretching the truth a bit | 04:12 |
| Seveas | ajmitch, well, it beats 'sudo make install' | 04:13 |
| ajmitch | Seveas: by a slim margin | 04:13 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, ok less evil than ........ well not ok still but better than making and distubing one | 04:13 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: mind sticking that in as a comment please? I'm going to bed... | 04:13 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: kk, changed it to "Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 5.0.7)" and "Section: kde" | 04:14 |
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| Hobbsee | yep | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: did you check another icon package to get all the other info? | 04:15 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: I based that debian/ on kde-icons-crystal's debian/ | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | cool :) | 04:15 |
| ryanakca | except I used cdbs instead of that evil debhelper | 04:15 |
| micahcowan | imbrandon, thanks for the info. I wasn't planning on it. :-) | 04:16 |
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| === fowlduck destroys kde's power thingie with extreme prejudice | ||
| Hobbsee | heh | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | why? | 04:18 |
| === ryanakca helps fowlduck out | ||
| Hobbsee | what's it done to you? | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | it's kde, need to ask any more? | 04:18 |
| fowlduck | it keeps on saying my battery is low | 04:19 |
| fowlduck | it's at 90-some percent | 04:19 |
| ryanakca | because it starts up on a desktop, despite the fact that I close it every time I log in... | 04:19 |
| fowlduck | and today it put me into hibernation | 04:19 |
| imbrandon | ryanakca, your not running the latest version then ;) | 04:19 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: pbuilder build installs and works fine... | 04:19 |
| fowlduck | when my battery wasn't low | 04:19 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: I upgraded yesterday... | 04:19 |
| === ryanakca upgrades | ||
| imbrandon | ryanakca, then file a bug, as it isnt supose to and has been fixed | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | fowlduck: ah yes, it likes that. | 04:20 |
| fowlduck | Hobbsee: are there known issues with the power right now? | 04:20 |
| ryanakca | G'night all | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: ther'es a .desktop for it in the /usr/share/autostart | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | fowlduck: yeah. that it randomly gives messages | 04:20 |
| fowlduck | Hobbsee: oh, good, it's not just me | 04:20 |
| fowlduck | Hobbsee: is there a way to kill that gracefully? | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | fowlduck: exit it? | 04:21 |
| fowlduck | Hobbsee: well, I suppose that's easy enough | 04:22 |
| imbrandon | ahh noodles done, hrm what else , choices choices | 04:24 |
| Plug | (topic refers to REVU day in the past) | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | hehe, true that | 04:28 |
| === Hobbsee fixes showimg harder. | ||
| Fujitsu | Anybody feel like reviewing http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3084? | 04:31 |
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| Plug | (and, sorry to pester, but no-one has ever reviewed http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3080 - *sob*) | 04:39 |
| === Hobbsee is fixing a bug before main freeze. | ||
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| ajmitch | poor Plug | 04:45 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: when is main freeze for knot 3? I need to get a couple of fixes in | 04:45 |
| Fujitsu | Wednesday, I believe. | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | I just counted 140 packages on revu :/ | 04:46 |
| === Fujitsu checks. | ||
| ajmitch | Plug: why are you restarting avahi-daemon in postinst? :) | 04:46 |
| Fujitsu | `As noted on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule, the feature | 04:46 |
| Fujitsu | freeze for Edgy is this Thursday, 7th September. It will take effect at | 04:46 |
| Fujitsu | the start of the Ubuntu development team meeting, which is at 23:00 UTC.' | 04:46 |
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| Plug | erm-oops. | 04:46 |
| Fujitsu | Oops. | 04:46 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. | 04:46 |
| Fujitsu | Wrong one. | 04:46 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: that's feature freeze | 04:46 |
| Fujitsu | Noted. | 04:47 |
| Fujitsu | I copied from the wrong one... | 04:47 |
| Plug | Me too! :) | 04:47 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 04:47 |
| Fujitsu | Here we go. | 04:47 |
| ajmitch | Plug: also build-dep on debhelper >= 5.0.0 is appreciated | 04:48 |
| Plug | ajmitch: you're too good to me | 04:48 |
| Fujitsu | Feature freeze from `tomorrow morning', says Tollef, sent 16 hours ago. | 04:48 |
| Fujitsu | *Main freeze | 04:48 |
| Fujitsu | I'm stuffing everything up now :( | 04:48 |
| Plug | This now requires me to $HOME to fix | 04:48 |
| ajmitch | heh | 04:48 |
| === ajmitch will try & upload fixes tonight if it's not too late | ||
| ajmitch | otherwise we'll just have people live with a broken f-spot for awhile | 04:48 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: about 16 hours from when i asked last night | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | so you've got today, but not much longer | 04:49 |
| === Hobbsee looks for a sponsor, if no one else plans to make any changes | ||
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| Hobbsee | oh dammit. | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | checksum mismatch, and i already removed the dir. | 05:06 |
| Fujitsu | Hahah. | 05:08 |
| zakame | hi all | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | hey zakame | 05:08 |
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| Fujitsu | Hi zakame. | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: does zhicon build? | 05:20 |
| Fujitsu | zhcon, you mean? | 05:20 |
| Fujitsu | Yes, it does. | 05:20 |
| Hobbsee | yeah that | 05:20 |
| Fujitsu | I've ensured they all build, after the gaphor debacle.. | 05:20 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: You mean you didn't want Hobbsee disemboweling you? | 05:21 |
| Fujitsu | Er, yes. | 05:21 |
| Fujitsu | Or anybody else :P | 05:21 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: hehe. i only thought of it, as i'd looked at that before. | 05:21 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: got a debdiff between latest debian and ubuntu please? | 05:22 |
| Fujitsu | OK, wait a sec. | 05:22 |
| Toadstool | evening everybody | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | hey Toadstool | 05:22 |
| Toadstool | hi Hobbsee | 05:22 |
| Fujitsu | I thought that between Ubuntu and Ubuntu was preferred, except for new upstream versions. | 05:23 |
| Fujitsu | Hi Toadstool. | 05:23 |
| Toadstool | heya Fujitsu | 05:23 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: both are good :) | 05:23 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: Then you have upstream changes in the debdiff | 05:23 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: in fact, with the requestmerge script, both are given. | 05:23 |
| Hobbsee | which you then have to comment, but it's sitll better than doing it manually | 05:23 |
| StevenK | I prefer Debian -> Ubuntu, since that should smaller and only contain the Ubuntu changes. | 05:23 |
| Hobbsee | true that | 05:24 |
| StevenK | Should be, damn it all. | 05:24 |
| Fujitsu | There are a couple of .po changes. Should I obliterate them? | 05:24 |
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| StevenK | Depends. | 05:24 |
| Fujitsu | Hm. | 05:25 |
| Fujitsu | The Debian ones are newer. | 05:25 |
| Fujitsu | So I'll remove the Ubuntu ones. | 05:25 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. | 05:25 |
| StevenK | Compare strings too, not just dates. | 05:25 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if scigraphica will now follow python policy | ||
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, no, should I make it do so? | 05:26 |
| Fujitsu | Debian hasn't released a new version. | 05:26 |
| StevenK | I've been waiting for Debian to do it, because it means less work for us. | 05:26 |
| Fujitsu | OK, Ubuntu's .po seems to have better strings... | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | true that | 05:27 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK, yeah.. | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | there's a new upstream version too, it seems. | 05:27 |
| Fujitsu | The Debian bug was filed more than a month ago. | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | been sitting in debian's bugtracker for 12 days. | 05:27 |
| === StevenK encourages Hobbsee to not look at Linda's bug page. | ||
| Fujitsu | Why do the .po changes appear, anyway? | 05:28 |
| Fujitsu | They're not noted in the changelog anywhere.. | 05:28 |
| LaserJock | scigraphica? | 05:28 |
| === ajmitch looks at linda's bug page | ||
| StevenK | ajmitch: Patches welcome. | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: sciegraphica is a big pain in the butt | 05:29 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: patches require effort | 05:29 |
| === Fujitsu attaches Debian->Ubuntu debdiff to the zhcon bug. | ||
| ajmitch | reminds me that I have to an upload tonight - closes 6 debian bugs, 1 of which should be RC :) | 05:30 |
| StevenK | Heh | 05:30 |
| === StevenK has been ignoring his Debian packages lately. | ||
| ajmitch | & upload f-spot to debian again to close the RC bug there | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | StevenK: me too :/ | 05:31 |
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| Fujitsu | Attached, Hobbsee. | 05:31 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: What did you attach Hobbsee to? | 05:31 |
| Fujitsu | Ha. Ha. | 05:31 |
| === StevenK smirks, | ||
| StevenK | s/\,/./ | 05:32 |
| Toadstool | I wish I could update my packages but my parents switched off my dev box :/ | 05:32 |
| Fujitsu | :O | 05:32 |
| Fujitsu | How dare they? | 05:32 |
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| Toadstool | and it's I dont't know how many thousands miles from here :p | 05:32 |
| Fujitsu | Why are you not at your dev box? | 05:33 |
| imbrandon | heh call them and tell em to turn it back on | 05:33 |
| imbrandon | Fujitsu, not everyone sits at their build box ;) | 05:33 |
| crimsun | he's in USA (southern california?); his box is in ... France? | 05:33 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 05:33 |
| Toadstool | crimsun: yep | 05:33 |
| Fujitsu | Why are you in the US? | 05:33 |
| Toadstool | Fujitsu: work | 05:33 |
| Toadstool | well, internship | 05:33 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 05:33 |
| imbrandon | sshable power switches ;) | 05:35 |
| Toadstool | hehe | 05:35 |
| imbrandon | or just a phone call to the NoC ( parrents in this case ) | 05:36 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 05:36 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Our UPSes here have a web interface. | 05:36 |
| ajmitch | Toadstool: yet for me it seems that the only time my main box crashes is when I'm out of the country | 05:36 |
| Toadstool | ajmitch: yeah :/ | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: heh, smart. | 05:36 |
| Toadstool | I'm gonna call them right now, must be 5 am over there :p | 05:36 |
| === ajmitch had great fun with his box dying back in march | ||
| imbrandon | StevenK, yea , our power strips we used were telenet-able but not very secure | 05:37 |
| imbrandon | so it was off most of the time | 05:37 |
| imbrandon | i think there might have been a web interface too but there was someone 24/7 in the colo room so it wasent a big deal just to call them | 05:38 |
| imbrandon | and only a 45min trip if absolutely needed | 05:38 |
| imbrandon | ( dead hardware ) | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | ooh, a whole lot of text @ me | 05:39 |
| Fujitsu | ? | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | on irc for 7+ days , that has to be a record for me | 05:40 |
| StevenK | Hrm. | 05:40 |
| Toadstool | at least I was smart enough to move all my vital things (IRC, mails, jabber, IRC, IRC, ...) on the server I rent in Paris | 05:40 |
| StevenK | My irssi has been running since August the 17th. | 05:40 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, hehe , i have bip connected | 05:41 |
| Toadstool | I should set up a buildd or a few pbuilders on it too... | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | i thought about setting up a dac like system on my fileserver bit falcon is just too easy to go though all that trubble | 05:41 |
| imbrandon | s/bit/but | 05:42 |
| === ajmitch checks irssi | ||
| imbrandon | would be nice to upload the source to my local file server though and have it just build on 3 arches hehe | 05:42 |
| ajmitch | hm, irssi running since june | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | wow | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | heh | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | imbrandon has been online since 09/05/2006 07:46:25 PM. | 05:43 |
| ajmitch | it's not an on edgy box | 05:43 |
| zakame | hmm | 05:43 |
| ajmitch | sarge is good for some things still :) | 05:43 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 05:44 |
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| imbrandon | plus irssi you can upgrade without quitting/restarting it | 05:44 |
| imbrandon | forgot the command but i seen it in the man | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: building zhcon now, thanks. | 05:45 |
| Fujitsu | Thank you :) | 05:45 |
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| Hobbsee | i had to remember to use your diff instaed of mine :P | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: you building anythign on voyager atm? | 05:47 |
| Fujitsu | I think that any possible positive view of translations I might have had before has just been destroyed by this yudit merge. | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | yup kde4base and amarok | 05:48 |
| imbrandon | why? | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you need a fast box to build on :) | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: hah! | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: right...i just looked at how hard it was running | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: i know :P | 05:48 |
| === Hobbsee likes imbrandon's mirror, too | ||
| imbrandon | heh my box build pretty fast but we both seem to be awake and build at the same time alot of the times | 05:49 |
| imbrandon | yea it helps having a full apt-mirror on the lan | 05:49 |
| Fujitsu | Stupid 20000 lines of .po diff, which is entirely reformatting of the file. | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: hehe, yeah. and it's almsot freeze time, too. | 05:50 |
| imbrandon | knot freeze, no biggie | 05:50 |
| Fujitsu | There isn't a sane .po differ around, is there? | 05:51 |
| StevenK | diff with relevant -C option | 05:53 |
| StevenK | ? | 05:53 |
| Fujitsu | I mean, the .po changes in yudit are just reformattings of the .po, like splitting long lines. | 05:54 |
| Fujitsu | Is there a way to ascertain that other than checking manually? | 05:54 |
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| StevenK | Fujitsu: Not that I can think of. | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | Darn. | 05:55 |
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| Toadstool | Fujitsu: maybe msgcmp in intltool... | 05:57 |
| Toadstool | never used it though | 05:57 |
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| Hobbsee | carthik: did you see my latest response on -bugsquad? | 06:01 |
| Toadstool | there's an #u-bugsquad chan? | 06:01 |
| carthik | Thanks Hobbsee | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | probably a -bugsquad list which I'm not on | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: no, i meant the mailing list, sorry | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | since I'm not special enough :) | 06:02 |
| carthik | Toadstool, that was a mailing list she was talking about :) | 06:02 |
| Toadstool | oh | 06:02 |
| Toadstool | ajmitch: hehe | 06:02 |
| carthik | Hobbsee, I will try to find some alternative... gnuplot is the tricky thing... | 06:03 |
| Hobbsee | carthik: true that. i'd ask, anyway | 06:03 |
| === ajmitch wonders if he should join bugsquad | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: probably not. you're already in -qa | 06:05 |
| Toadstool | ajmitch: it's just a bunch of weirdos wandering around malone with no real purpose, look there's Hobbsee, me, ... :p | 06:06 |
| === Toadstool ducks | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: I mean the list | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | not the team | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | whether it'll be another list that I subscribe to & ignore | 06:06 |
| Toadstool | :) | 06:07 |
| carthik | ajmitch, there have a grand total of ....4.... threads so far... :) | 06:07 |
| carthik | allow me my exaggeration... but that is close to the truth, probably | 06:07 |
| Toadstool | alright, low traffic, I should subscribe too | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i was suprised to see anything from it | 06:08 |
| Fujitsu | As was I. | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: zhcon uploaded | 06:10 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks :) | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | carthik: ah, very important for me to subscribe then | 06:11 |
| Toadstool | hmm, for packages which are in sid but not in edgy, I just have to ask for a "sync", right? | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | Toadstool: yep | 06:11 |
| Toadstool | ok | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | use the requestsync script | 06:11 |
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| Toadstool | I have my own mail template ;) | 06:12 |
| Toadstool | Gloubiboulga: hey \o/ | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | that works too | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | hey Gloubiboulga | 06:12 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey Toadstool :) | 06:12 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi Hobbsee | 06:12 |
| imbrandon | ahhh finaly, i "fixed" Hobbsee's edgybuild script ;) | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: how so? | 06:13 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: nice 19 ? | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: it's using ccache now or something? | 06:13 |
| === Hobbsee looks | ||
| Hobbsee | haha | 06:13 |
| freeflying_ | Hobbsee: zhcon? which version? | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, http://pastebin.ca/167610 | 06:13 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying_: the one on the merge page | 06:13 |
| === Fujitsu locates these famed request{merge,sync} scripts. | ||
| crimsun | Fujitsu: #55700 is verified build- and installable? | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: w.u.c/DeveloperResources | 06:14 |
| StevenK | Hah | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | bug 55700 | 06:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55700 in scigraphica "apt-get build-dep scigraphica fails" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55700 | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | i've never seen that message | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | clearlyi dont watch it | 06:14 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I have a pdebuild wrapper for that sort of thing | 06:14 |
| StevenK | ... But why would you replace python2.4-numeric with python-dev?! | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun, I've installed, built, and used it. It works :) | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | Oops. | 06:15 |
| StevenK | python-numeric is different and special. | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | What? | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | I didn't... | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | I think the comment I left was wrong. | 06:15 |
| StevenK | Oh right, then I won't kill you. | 06:16 |
| === StevenK grins evilly. | ||
| Fujitsu | Er, yeah, I'm not that silly. | 06:16 |
| Fujitsu | But if I do do something wrong, feel free to kill me in any way you want. | 06:16 |
| crimsun | you meant s/2\.4// | 06:16 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. | 06:16 |
| Fujitsu | Oops >_< | 06:16 |
| freeflying_ | wengophone is broken, unmet libraw1394-5 | 06:17 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun, I note when you merged xzoom last (for edgy), you kept changes to the Makefile to fix Xorg 7.1 building, when it built fine anyway. | 06:18 |
| crimsun | Fujitsu: sure, override 'em | 06:19 |
| Fujitsu | I thought so. | 06:19 |
| Fujitsu | That was on one of my notes to check :) | 06:19 |
| Fujitsu | They're slowly being reduced... | 06:19 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, heh i should nice 19 it, hehe, i was trying to play UO today and then "someone" started to build hehe | 06:22 |
| StevenK | Hah | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | You also changed a build-dep from xutils to imake... Is that also OK to override? | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | I can't see why that would have been done.. | 06:23 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Even nice 19 will affect you, I suspect. | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, yea and i dont use this for musch else but irc and building anyhow so no biggie ;) | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | plus nice 19 would effect my builds too | 06:23 |
| imbrandon | ;/ | 06:23 |
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| crimsun | Fujitsu: it's ok to override now, yes. | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: xutils is part of imake now? or the other way around? | 06:24 |
| StevenK | if [ $USER = "hobbsee" ] ; then CMD="nice 19 " ; fi | 06:24 |
| crimsun | at the time we hadn't synced with Debian's X.Org xutils-dev | 06:25 |
| StevenK | $CMD pbuilder ... | 06:25 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 06:25 |
| Fujitsu | OK, thanks. | 06:25 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I shouldn't give you ideas. | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | hehehe | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: can you do me a favour please? | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: yes, you shouldnt. remember that i'll see you next week | 06:25 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: depends on the favour. | 06:25 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: :-P | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: can you upload http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kdenetwork.debdiff for me please? | 06:25 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: sure, sec. | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | hah i hadent even thought about $USER heheh , but i'll be nice ;) | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | otherwise i really would have to start using StevenK's machine - and figure it out first. | 06:27 |
| imbrandon | heh | 06:27 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: I've shown you how, I can do it again.. | 06:28 |
| imbrandon | BTW if someone would be nice to give my ssh/pbuilder access on a ppc i would be gratefull ;) | 06:28 |
| imbrandon | s/my/me | 06:29 |
| imbrandon | mine is toooooo dog slow to build on and in OSX 3/4 of the time | 06:29 |
| === StevenK waves a few .debian.org machines at imbrandon. | ||
| imbrandon | StevenK, you can use those to build ? | 06:29 |
| seth | any MOTU care to peek at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3092 for a second? It's not a new package, and I'm the maintainer... just a new upstream version | 06:29 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Sure. | 06:30 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, as in something that wont go into the archive | 06:30 |
| imbrandon | wow | 06:30 |
| imbrandon | i thought about sf.net's build farm but those arent linux on the ppc's | 06:30 |
| Hobbsee | seth: arent you a MOTU yourself? | 06:30 |
| seth | Hobbsee, have never taken the time to apply | 06:30 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 06:30 |
| seth | I'm on ubuntu-members and kubuntu-team, maintain half a dozen packages, but y'know | 06:31 |
| seth | you can only fit so much into each day :) | 06:31 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 06:31 |
| seth | plus why do more work when I can steal unsuspecting MOTUs to do it *runs* | 06:31 |
| seth | nah, I probably should apply sometime | 06:31 |
| seth | just so busy :( | 06:31 |
| Fujitsu | Thankyou for all the uploads, crimsun :) | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | looks sane to me | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:32 |
| seth | of course it's sane, I did it | 06:32 |
| seth | jk | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 06:32 |
| imbrandon | dget http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/md5deep-0609111330/md5deep_1.12-0ubuntu1.dsc | 06:32 |
| imbrandon | gah | 06:32 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: Sure. You may need to bug the DSA to install build deps into a chroot, but sure. | 06:32 |
| seth | dget: command not found | 06:33 |
| seth | ;) | 06:33 |
| imbrandon | seth install dget its a god send, anyhow i'll poke it up here in a minute ( assuming it builds fine , but i'm sure you checked that ) | 06:33 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, wow i dident know that, that would be awesom | 06:33 |
| seth | yeah, I was being silly since you tried to dget from IRC | 06:33 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: You need to be a DD. | 06:34 |
| imbrandon | ohh heh | 06:34 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, ouch ok nvm, i havent went down that road yet | 06:34 |
| seth | imbrandon, yeah, it builds fine and installs, checked in a shiny-clean pbuilder | 06:34 |
| === Fujitsu polishes seth's pbuilder. | ||
| imbrandon | StevenK, been thinking about it but i konw nothing of debian politics and prefer to keep it that way as much as possible ;) | 06:34 |
| seth | so Hobbsee, I guess you weren't successful in escaping the clutches of ubuntu-motu eh | 06:38 |
| seth | it's okay, there's still hope | 06:38 |
| seth | we can run away together | 06:38 |
| Hobbsee | seth: hehe | 06:38 |
| Hobbsee | seth: it does seem a bit odd that you taught me how to package, yet you're asking someone like myself to review your stuff :P | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | dodgy characters | 06:39 |
| StevenK | Oh yeah. | 06:41 |
| seth | Hobbsee, well, 'tis protocol :P | 06:42 |
| imbrandon | seth, done and done | 06:42 |
| seth | cheers brandon | 06:42 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: We need to get out our walking frames and complain about these young whippersnappers. | 06:42 |
| imbrandon | ( both "archived" too on revu just FYI ) | 06:42 |
| StevenK | Me more so, being a DD since 2001. | 06:42 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 06:42 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, lol | 06:43 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, well mentor me into becoming a DD ;) | 06:43 |
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| StevenK | A? | 06:44 |
| StevenK | Try fifteen or so? | 06:44 |
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| seth | Hobbsee, the reason I didn't apply for MOTU last semester is because I would feel obligated to put in more time than I currently have to give... I wouldn't want to feel like I was short-changing the people that approved me | 06:44 |
| Hobbsee | seth: that's a point | 06:44 |
| seth | so I take care of the packages I maintain and give support on #kubuntu... maybe someday that will change a bit | 06:44 |
| seth | so I totally found out that Joshua Gay, the guy who edits rms's books, is in my Data Structures class | 06:45 |
| crimsun | It's not unreasonable to hope that approved ubuntu-dev members contribute consistently, but as we're volunteers, it's understandable that "real life" gets in the way. | 06:46 |
| seth | plus, my key isn't signed anyways | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | seth: mine is, yet it seems to say it isnt. go figure. | 06:47 |
| seth | ah, so that's how it's done | 06:47 |
| seth | yes, my key is... signed... too | 06:47 |
| seth | but it just doesn't look like it | 06:47 |
| seth | ;) | 06:48 |
| Fujitsu | Hm. | 06:48 |
| imbrandon | lol | 06:48 |
| Fujitsu | With crimsun's approval of the cheetah sync, it shows that the description and summary have changed, when they're identical. | 06:48 |
| Toadstool | crimsun: this is exactly what's happening to me right now, things have been a little messed by my moving to the USA | 06:48 |
| crimsun | Fujitsu: read more closely. | 06:49 |
| crimsun | (full stop versus hyphen) | 06:49 |
| Fujitsu | Oh. | 06:49 |
| Fujitsu | Yes, oops. | 06:49 |
| Toadstool | have to buy a new laptop first and then I'm back to work :p | 06:49 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks for picking that up :) | 06:49 |
| crimsun | np, my job as "sponsor" | 06:50 |
| Toadstool | blah... got to go. My renter wants his computer back :/ | 06:52 |
| Toadstool | cya | 06:52 |
| Fujitsu | Bye. | 06:53 |
| trappist | is it possible to build just one binary package out of a source package that wants to build many packages? | 06:55 |
| StevenK | trappist: In certain situations, yes. | 06:55 |
| trappist | for example, I just want kwallet out of kdeutils | 06:55 |
| Fujitsu | toursst went from native to non-native versioning, and had Ubuntu changes. I'll have to just bump the old version number to 0.0.3ubuntu2, won't I? | 06:58 |
| imbrandon | i think your missing a -0 in there | 06:59 |
| crimsun | yes, those are lovely. | 06:59 |
| Fujitsu | Same with carpaltunnel, which I did a while ago. | 07:00 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon, no. | 07:00 |
| StevenK | WAH | 07:00 |
| StevenK | I have *big* problems with people doing that. | 07:00 |
| StevenK | If it's native, *LEAVE* it native. | 07:00 |
| Fujitsu | It was 0.0.3, became 0.0.3ubuntu1, then Debian released 0.0.3-0.1 | 07:00 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: 0.0.3-0.1 is also wrong | 07:00 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK, I know. | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | argg, that's a native package? | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | then ours should be 0.0.3-0.1ubuntu1 in the worst case iirc | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon, no. | 07:01 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: But you can't. | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon, that doesn't work. | 07:01 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: 0.0.3ubunut1 > 0.0.3-0.1 | 07:01 |
| Fujitsu | It has to be 0.0.3ubuntuX, until we get a new upstream version. | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | ohh yea, that bits ass | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | bites | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | wth did someone put 3ubuntu1 and not 3-0ubuntu1 ? | 07:02 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon, no. | 07:02 |
| StevenK | Because -0ubuntu1 is wrong. | 07:02 |
| Fujitsu | imbrandon, It should have been 3ubuntu1 | 07:03 |
| imbrandon | for native yea but not a non native | 07:03 |
| imbrandon | gah its just a mess | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | is it native or not? | 07:04 |
| crimsun | it is a native source package, but the versioning is fubar now. | 07:04 |
| imbrandon | becouse of a nmu ? | 07:04 |
| StevenK | The version is wrong for a NMU, though. | 07:05 |
| StevenK | It ought to be 0.0.3.1, not 0.0.3-0.1 | 07:05 |
| imbrandon | thats what i thought | 07:05 |
| imbrandon | navive nmu shoudl be .1 .2 etc | 07:05 |
| imbrandon | afaik | 07:05 |
| imbrandon | native* gah | 07:05 |
| imbrandon | would it not be better to poke debian to fix the version to 0.0.3.2 and reupload THEN sync ? | 07:06 |
| imbrandon | dunno , just a thought | 07:06 |
| imbrandon | as 3.2 would be correct AND superceed 0.3-0.1 | 07:07 |
| imbrandon | and fix our problems | 07:07 |
| Fujitsu | I've got to run off home now... | 07:07 |
| Fujitsu | I'll be back later! | 07:07 |
| seth | bye Fujitsu | 07:07 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, is that somethign a nmu can do ? ( reupload to fix versioning ? ) | 07:08 |
| StevenK | Yes. However, it might be an uphill battle. | 07:10 |
| StevenK | An NMU just to fix versioning since it affects Ubuntu is likely to be met with hositility. | 07:10 |
| ajmitch | everything is met with hostility there.. | 07:10 |
| imbrandon | ahh yea it seems so, wish that wasent true | 07:11 |
| ajmitch | except some things more so than others | 07:11 |
| imbrandon | i still dont get why (some of ) debian is so against ubuntu , but thats not realy a debate for in here , also dpkg's response to ubuntu on oftc is kinda stupid too ( ubuntu is an african word for "i cant configure debian" ) | 07:13 |
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| imbrandon | haha that sudo joke is now a tshirt, i got to get one | 07:19 |
| imbrandon | http://xkcd.com/store/ | 07:19 |
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| imbrandon | man i need to go back to school ... | 07:34 |
| whiprush | imbrandon: I just started | 07:35 |
| whiprush | post-bachelor | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | heya whiprush, cool | 07:35 |
| whiprush | kind of weird | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | heh yea, i dunno how i would look pushing 30 going back | 07:35 |
| whiprush | <-- 31 | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | but i think it will be worth it, heh yea i'm 29 this year | 07:36 |
| whiprush | screw what people think, bettering yourself is always a good investment. that's my theory | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | true | 07:36 |
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| Fujitsu | What!? ubuntu-universe-sponsors isn't allowed to be up to date with my merges! | 07:56 |
| === Fujitsu fixes. | ||
| imbrandon | your gonna give crimsuns poor 28.8k modem a workout arent you | 08:01 |
| Fujitsu | Ey, I'm on 28.8k too. | 08:02 |
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| === Fujitsu destroys whoever updated the changelog for scanerrlog like this. | ||
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| AnAnt | this package needs a second advocate: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3086 . Anyone ? | 08:43 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | hey dholbach! | 09:41 |
| dholbach | hi Hobbsee | 09:42 |
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| Sp4rKy_ | hi | 10:12 |
| Sp4rKy_ | i'm trying add a messsage at preinst with debconf | 10:13 |
| Sp4rKy_ | but when i try a dpkg -i, i've get : | 10:13 |
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| Sp4rKy__ | http://pastebin.ca/167729 <== what's wrong here ? | 10:35 |
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| Plug | ok | 11:00 |
| === Plug tries again | ||
| Plug | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3095 | 11:01 |
| Plug | Now does not restart avahi-daemon! :) | 11:01 |
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| \sh | moins | 12:23 |
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| Fujitsu | Morning, \sh. | 12:24 |
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| \sh | guys, what's wrong with this code in debian/rules: | 12:37 |
| \sh | ifeq (, $(ARCH)) | 12:37 |
| \sh | ARCH += $(DEB_BUILD_ARCH) | 12:37 |
| \sh | endif | 12:37 |
| \sh | ifeq ($(ARCH),x86_64) | 12:37 |
| \sh | CONFFLAGS += --enable-win64 | 12:37 |
| \sh | endif | 12:37 |
| \sh | I want to check if the build arch is x86_64 and then I want to set CONFFLAGS | 12:38 |
| tseng | look at the mono source package in debian | 12:38 |
| tseng | it does this exactly | 12:38 |
| tseng | (in ubuntu we remove the if) | 12:38 |
| tseng | hang on | 12:39 |
| tseng | ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_ARCH), amd64) confflags += --with-tls=__thread | 12:39 |
| tseng | else confflags += --with-tls=pthread | 12:39 |
| tseng | endif | 12:39 |
| tseng | add spaces | 12:39 |
| tseng | line breaks | 12:39 |
| tseng | they got lost | 12:39 |
| \sh | hmmm...so we have different arch strings for amd64, emt64 etc? because standard is always x86_64, isn't it | 12:40 |
| tseng | no | 12:40 |
| tseng | its amd64 | 12:40 |
| \sh | ok... | 12:42 |
| \sh | thx a lo | 12:44 |
| \sh | t | 12:44 |
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| StevenK | \sh: DEB_BUILD_ARCH can be checked with dpkg-architecture, and can be seen in _<arch>.deb | 12:48 |
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| AnAnt | ping crimsun | 01:33 |
| shawarma | MoM is still running, right? | 01:35 |
| AnAnt | what's that ? | 01:35 |
| shawarma | Merge-o-Matic | 01:36 |
| AnAnt | dunno about it | 01:36 |
| shawarma | No, I kind of guessed. :-D | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | shawarma, it was running a few hours ago... | 01:39 |
| Fujitsu | I don't see why it wouldn't be. | 01:39 |
| shawarma | Fujitsu: Any idea why python-scipy is not in there? | 01:40 |
| Fujitsu | shawarma, I was looking at syncing that just a couple of days back. | 01:41 |
| Fujitsu | shawarma, it's because it's got no Ubuntu changes. | 01:41 |
| Fujitsu | It just needs a straight sync. | 01:41 |
| Fujitsu | Like several thousand other packages. | 01:41 |
| Fujitsu | My list of science packages lists it as being out of date: | 01:42 |
| Fujitsu | http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/science/science.html | 01:42 |
| Fujitsu | You're wanting to request a sync, I presume? | 01:43 |
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| shawarma | Fujitsu: Well, yes, but it appears there's already a bug about it. | 01:45 |
| shawarma | bug #57070 | 01:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57070 in python-scipy-core "Please update to latest version" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57070 | 01:46 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: what sync do you mean ? sync the ubuntu repos with REVU approved packages ? | 01:46 |
| Fujitsu | AnAnt, syncing Ubuntu packages from Debian. | 01:46 |
| Fujitsu | shawarma, ah yes. That's why I was looking to sync it. | 01:46 |
| === Fujitsu turns it into a sync request. | ||
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: ok, I got an approved package (it's archived), but it isn't in the Ubuntu repos yet, should I ask someone to upload it to repos or what ? | 01:47 |
| Fujitsu | AnAnt, which package? | 01:48 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: kchmviewer | 01:48 |
| === Fujitsu checks. | ||
| AnAnt | btw, what version of python is in Edgy ? 2.4 or 2.5 ? | 01:48 |
| Fujitsu | AnAnt, 2.5 is there, but 2.4 is the default. | 01:49 |
| slomo | does anybody know a workaround for the ugly fonts in firefox/epiphany after a clean edgy install? ;) | 01:49 |
| AnAnt | k | 01:49 |
| Fujitsu | AnAnt, kchmviewer is still sitting in NEW, it needs to be dealt with by one of the archive admins. Shouldn't be too far off. | 01:49 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: do you know about python ? | 01:49 |
| Fujitsu | AnAnt, what about it? | 01:49 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: I need a way to detect what version is there in configure script | 01:50 |
| Fujitsu | Why do you need to know that? | 01:50 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: originally the author had this "-lpython" | 01:50 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: that fails on Ubuntu | 01:50 |
| Fujitsu | Are you Build-Depending on python-dev? | 01:50 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: so I fixed it to "-lpython2.4" | 01:50 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: yes | 01:50 |
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| AnAnt | Fujitsu: but I was wondering if there is a better way that this fix I done | 01:51 |
| Fujitsu | I don't know... | 01:51 |
| AnAnt | k | 01:52 |
| Fujitsu | shawarma, we also need a new python-numpy for python-scipy to build.. | 01:52 |
| shawarma | Fujitsu: Sounds great. :-) | 01:55 |
| Fujitsu | shawarma, I'm merging that now. | 01:55 |
| shawarma | Fujitsu: That's also just a sync now | 01:56 |
| shawarma | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/python-numpy/python-numpy_1.0b1-1/changelog says that the changes doko made to our version have been merged into the Debian version. | 01:57 |
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| Fujitsu | No. | 01:57 |
| Fujitsu | Not all the changes. | 01:57 |
| Fujitsu | There are two changes that haven't been taken up by Debian. | 01:57 |
| shawarma | Fujitsu: Oh, right. | 01:57 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: I don't understand what you meant by "kchmviewer is still sitting in NEW, it needs to be dealt with by one of the archive admins." ? | 01:59 |
| AnAnt | Fujitsu: dealt for what exactly ? | 01:59 |
| Fujitsu | AnAnt, it needs to be manually added to universe by one of the archive admins. It's been uploaded, but it's a new package so needs some extra stuff done to it. | 02:00 |
| AnAnt | oh | 02:00 |
| AnAnt | what you mean by new package ? | 02:01 |
| AnAnt | there is a package in Ubuntu called kchmviewer, it is just an update | 02:01 |
| Fujitsu | Well, the binary packages are waiting, I'm not sure exactly of the process they are meant to go through. | 02:02 |
| AnAnt | oh | 02:02 |
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| AnAnt | is Edgy supposed to be out in beginning or end of October ? | 02:04 |
| Fujitsu | AnAnt, 26th, I think. | 02:05 |
| AnAnt | k | 02:06 |
| AnAnt | what does "pkg-not-in-package-test" mean ? | 02:14 |
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| Kagou | ping imbrandon | 03:22 |
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| \sh | guys if anyone has time please have a look at http://librarian.launchpad.net/4228669/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-amd64.wine_0.9.20-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 04:07 |
| \sh | there is a problem with unicode...on amd64 | 04:07 |
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| slomo | hm, is pbuilder in edgy broken | 04:22 |
| slomo | or at least debootstrap? | 04:22 |
| Kagou | slomo: i'v got no problem with pbuilder today | 04:24 |
| slomo | when creating a new chroot? | 04:24 |
| slomo | i get "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/5346/. mount -t proc proc /proc" on each try, no matter whether it is edgy or a sid chroot | 04:25 |
| Kagou | not tested this. i can if you want | 04:26 |
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| slomo | please do :) | 04:27 |
| Kagou | let's go | 04:29 |
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| Kagou | slomo: doing a "sudo pbuilder create --distribution dapper" works fine here | 04:36 |
| slomo | Kagou: hrm, ok thanks :( | 04:37 |
| Kagou | slomo: your welcome | 04:37 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 05:08 |
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| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 07:03 |
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| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 07:08 |
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| AnAnt | ping ajmitch | 07:13 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: thanks for the advocation | 07:13 |
| AnAnt | again | 07:13 |
| bddebian | NP :-) | 07:14 |
| zul | AnAnt: ajmitch is probably asleep | 07:14 |
| AnAnt | is there anyone else to clear an upload ? | 07:14 |
| AnAnt | I need to clear an incomplete upload of elinks-full | 07:15 |
| AnAnt | anyone ? | 07:15 |
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| AnAnt | ping crimsun | 07:17 |
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| AnAnt | ping lionelp | 07:17 |
| AnAnt | ping siretart | 07:18 |
| AnAnt | where's everyone ? | 07:20 |
| AnAnt | ping LaserJock | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 07:21 |
| AnAnt | LaserJock: can you clear an incomplete upload ? | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | nope | 07:21 |
| AnAnt | LaserJock: who can ? | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | raphink: need some REVU help | 07:22 |
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| AnAnt | ping raphink | 07:22 |
| raphink | yes yes | 07:22 |
| raphink | I'm a bit busy right now | 07:22 |
| raphink | what has to be removed? | 07:23 |
| AnAnt | raphink: elinks-full | 07:23 |
| raphink | done | 07:23 |
| AnAnt | raphink: thanks | 07:23 |
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| AnAnt | ping bddebian | 08:38 |
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| bddebian | AnAnt: I ran away :-) | 08:42 |
| AnAnt | ok | 08:42 |
| bddebian | AnAnt: Whatcha need? | 08:43 |
| bddebian | A review of elinks? | 08:43 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: how did you guess ? | 08:43 |
| AnAnt | elinks-full though | 08:43 |
| AnAnt | not elinks | 08:43 |
| bddebian | OK, let me see if I can get to my machine at home | 08:44 |
| AnAnt | if you read lionelp's review on elinks, you'd understand why I did that | 08:44 |
| AnAnt | k | 08:46 |
| AnAnt | who else can I trick to review another package ? | 08:46 |
| AnAnt | btw, anyone from France here ? | 08:46 |
| bddebian | AnAnt: I can tell you right away that you need to remove all the autoconf generated files if possible | 08:47 |
| AnAnt | it's in the orig | 08:48 |
| AnAnt | how would I do that ? | 08:48 |
| AnAnt | btw, you'll find a manpage warning | 08:50 |
| AnAnt | but I dunno how to fix it | 08:50 |
| bddebian | The manpage? | 08:51 |
| AnAnt | yeah | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | oh my gosh | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | !!! | 08:53 |
| AnAnt | ? | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | UDS Mountain View!!! | 08:53 |
| bddebian | ? | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | the next dev summit is at Google Headquaters | 08:54 |
| AnAnt | that rhymes with Mountain Dew | 08:54 |
| zul | LaserJock: yeah...sign up today :) | 08:54 |
| AnAnt | what is that ? | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | which is a 4 hr drive | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | wahooo | 08:54 |
| zul | LaserJock: i take it you are going? | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | I was pretty sure it was going to be west coast | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | but I thought LA or San Diego | 08:55 |
| AnAnt | I thought it was google not wahoo | 08:55 |
| bddebian | San Diego would be better | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | I actually wasn't going to go | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | but I might change my mind now | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | as I wouldn't need to fly | 08:55 |
| AnAnt | guess what, I searched for UDS Mountain View on Google and didn't find anything relevant on the first page | 08:56 |
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| AnAnt | well got to sleep | 08:59 |
| AnAnt | LaserJock: can't I trick you to second a package ? | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | perhaps | 09:01 |
| bddebian | AnAnt: Did you look at the manpage to see if there was some weirdness in that file? | 09:01 |
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| AnAnt | LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3086 | 09:01 |
| AnAnt | bddebian: what is "weirdness" ? I only written a man page once, and that was after using some help2man converter | 09:02 |
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| bddebian | AnAnt: Well I think it tells you what part of the document has an issue: p 16, 0.8i, div `an-div', 0.2i | 09:04 |
| bddebian | In case you don't notice, I'm not a manpage expert either :-) | 09:04 |
| AnAnt | I thought it was line 994 | 09:05 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, I wonder if maybe I don't need sponsorship | 09:09 |
| AnAnt | ok, really got to sleep | 09:11 |
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| superm1 | Could someone tell me how to add my screenshot for a package into the revu upload? | 10:23 |
| superm1 | I was following the Ubuntu packaging guide, and it didn't detail anything about such a thing | 10:24 |
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| fbond | superm1, screenshot for what? | 10:28 |
| fbond | .debs typically don't have screenshots associated with them | 10:28 |
| fbond | (as far as I am aware, anyway) | 10:28 |
| superm1 | Well crimsun mentioned to take a screenshot of my package when I finished it | 10:28 |
| superm1 | and was ready to upload it | 10:29 |
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| superm1 | he also wanted a pbuilder log to go with it | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | superm1: that should go in the bug report | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | not on revu | 10:29 |
| superm1 | OK, so general process. Its uploading to revu, and there are bugs already open related to updating this package. Should I just attach to one of those bugs on launchpad then, or open a new one indicating that its on revu now? | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | this is a bug fix or a merge? | 10:31 |
| superm1 | its a new merge | 10:31 |
| superm1 | its for mythtv | 10:31 |
| superm1 | to bring it up to 0.20 | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | comment on the existing bug report | 10:31 |
| superm1 | but the source is to sync from a newer debian repository | 10:31 |
| superm1 | Ok | 10:31 |
| crimsun | superm1: those attachments are revelant to LP bug reports, not REVU. | 10:32 |
| superm1 | Ah okay. | 10:32 |
| superm1 | was a bit confused | 10:32 |
| superm1 | So once its actually up on REVU and I attach a screenshot/pbuilder log to the bug, do I need to ask an admin to look at it? Or what exactly is next? | 10:33 |
| crimsun | sorry, just got called away to a meeting. If imbrandon needs my backing for TB, I've worked with him on various packages (konversation and apt-mirror come to mind immediately), and he has my +1. | 10:34 |
| imbrandon | wrong chan crimsun | 10:35 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 10:35 |
| bddebian | Oh shix, is there a meeting? | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: just TB | 10:36 |
| bddebian | Just the TB? | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | that is what I said | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | yea i';m going for main and could use some cheers ;) | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | superm1: probably ping crimsun or another MOTU to have a look | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | Main? | 10:37 |
| bddebian | Main? | 10:37 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: core-dev | 10:37 |
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| bddebian | We gonna lose another one to main? :-) | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: full of answers today aren't you? ;-) | 10:37 |
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| bddebian | Bah | 10:38 |
| superm1 | Okay, well then later on tonight I'll be here again to have you guys take a look at it. thanks :) | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | bye | 10:38 |
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| LaserJock | oh, it's been going fo 40 min? | 10:39 |
| hub | so the next ubuntu dev summit is in bushistan | 10:40 |
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| LaserJock | hardly | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | too close to San Fransisco | 10:40 |
| hub | san francisco is bushistan | 10:41 |
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| LaserJock | hah | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | I really don't think the majority of SF would agree ;-) | 10:41 |
| bddebian | And I really don't care | 10:41 |
| hub | who is their president? | 10:41 |
| hub | but whatever | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | the mayor of SF | 10:42 |
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| ogra | there is a major for science fiction ? | 10:42 |
| hub | ogra: LOL | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | isn't that what Trekies do in college | 10:43 |
| ogra | :) | 10:43 |
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| Plug | Excellent morning news. ajmitch's last two fixes on board, I have a http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3099 ready | 10:51 |
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| phanatic | good evening | 10:55 |
| Plug | morning :) | 10:55 |
| phanatic | morning Plug :) | 10:55 |
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| ajmitch | morning Plug | 11:03 |
| Plug | hey | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: well done, | 11:06 |
| ryanakca | anybody feel like reviewing an iconset? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3098 | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, thanks | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | man that was a grilling | 11:09 |
| ajmitch | that was nothing ;) | 11:09 |
| Adri2000 | is there another revu day planned before universe feature freeze ? | 11:11 |
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| ajmitch | Adri2000: we can arrange one | 11:13 |
| Adri2000 | it would be great | 11:13 |
| Adri2000 | ajmitch: can you confirm that new packages can't be added after September 28th ? | 11:15 |
| Adri2000 | if it's right, just 2 weeks remaining | 11:15 |
| ajmitch | as far as I'm aware, that is true | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | however there may be some few exceptions made | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | I don't know if this has been discussed yet | 11:18 |
| Plug | Christian Marrilat sure is fast. | 11:19 |
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| bddebian | Congrats imbrandon, now go take a nap :-) | 11:26 |
| LaserJock | heh | 11:27 |
| Lathiat | haha | 11:29 |
| imbrandon | thanks bddebian hehe | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | sleep well, i wont be far behind, i'll need to nap soon | 11:32 |
| imbrandon | ( in my OWN bed though hehehe ) | 11:32 |
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| superm1 | Guys I added the myth packages to REVU, with dput about 40 minutes ago, but they aren't showing up on the page. | 11:36 |
| superm1 | is there something else to it? | 11:36 |
| beligum | Hi all, I have a problem packaging ScreenKast for edgy: it depends on libdts-dev (available according the website), but while building, pbuilder doesn't find it | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | beligum: what repository? | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | superm1: you need to be in the launchpad group & the keyring on revu, which an admin needs to sync | 11:37 |
| beligum | universe | 11:37 |
| superm1 | I joined the group before uploading | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | beligum: and do you have universe in your pbuilder? | 11:37 |
| superm1 | can I have an admin sync it then? | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | superm1: I'm doing that now | 11:38 |
| superm1 | Ok, cool thanks | 11:38 |
| beligum | good question, adjust /etc/pbuilderrc ? | 11:38 |
| imbrandon | beligum, yea there should be something like | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | MIRRORSITE=http://192.168.1.5/ubuntu | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | OTHERMIRROR="deb http://192.168.1.5/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse" | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | ( not that ip obviously ) | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | thats MY local mirror ;) | 11:39 |
| beligum | just looking at COMPONENTS, that too? | 11:39 |
| imbrandon | COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" | 11:39 |
| beligum | ah, ok, mine is commented out | 11:40 |
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| Nafallo | no need for OTHERMIRROR with COMPONENTS support | 11:45 |
| beligum | thanks, it works | 11:46 |
| superm1 | ajmitch, after you sync, will I need to re-upload to revu, or will the packages just show up since I've been synced in? | 11:46 |
| ryanakca | Can someone review this iconset please? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3098 | 11:46 |
| ajmitch | superm1: they'll show up in a minute or so | 11:49 |
| superm1 | Ok great | 11:49 |
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| beligum | what's the difference between universe and multiverse ? | 11:52 |
| beligum | (sorry for asking) | 11:52 |
| phanatic | beligum: multiverse has non-free packages | 11:53 |
| beligum | oh, I thought that was restricted | 11:54 |
| Burgwork | beligum, both are not supported by canonical and multiverse has stuff that has troublesome licenses | 11:54 |
| Burgwork | restricted and main are supported by canonical, restrcited is also stuff that was troublesome licenses | 11:54 |
| beligum | I see | 11:54 |
| Burgwork | beligum, you a debian user? | 11:55 |
| beligum | no, kubuntu | 11:55 |
| beligum | but didn't know that | 11:55 |
| Burgwork | ubuntu.com/components (I think) | 11:55 |
| Plug | What is keeping MythTV in multiverse? | 11:56 |
| Burgwork | Plug, dependencies of non-free stuff, at a guess (I have not looked at it) | 11:56 |
| beligum | hmmm, pbuilder takes aaaages | 11:58 |
| beligum | is there a way to speed it up after a succesful build? | 11:58 |
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| Nafallo | ccache | 11:59 |
| beligum | (I need to tweak the debian/control file) | 11:59 |
| superm1 | Looks like the dependency that would make it multiverse is liblame | 11:59 |
| superm1 | I think everything else is main/universe | 11:59 |
| beligum | ccache ? | 11:59 |
| Nafallo | Description: Compiler results cacher, for fast recompiles | 12:00 |
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| beligum | I know, but how can I use it while packaging? | 12:01 |
| Nafallo | integrate it with pbuilder | 12:02 |
| Nafallo | my devel-laptop is dead atm, so I haven't got my conf handy. | 12:02 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: and I was about to tell you to put the config on the wiki :) | 12:03 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: :-) | 12:03 |
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| huats | does anybody can give me a few hints to build a .deb package starting from a python soft ? | 12:09 |
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