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Right now i try to package a python soft.... but I don't see where to start. I mean, I've use dh_make to create the first septs. But I am not really sure how to make my Makefile... [12:59] The upstream version should already have an installation mechanism... === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] ajmitch: around? [01:06] no === grexk [n=grexk@124.107.72.45] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === grexk [n=grexk@124.107.72.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] erm... What do I add to debian/control for a LGPL (I usually copy paste when it's GPL from the packaging guide) [01:45] ryanakca: you mean debian/copyright? [01:45] yes, oops [01:45] typo [01:47] there's probably an LGPL summary similar to the GPL one somewhere, i doubt it's very different === welshbyte decides he's sleepy enough for bed [01:48] g'night === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community/leader/forum/admin/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has left #ubuntu-motu ["cat] === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] Heya gang === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon yawns , hows it going MOTU's === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] Hi imbrandon. === grexk[BeeZ] [n=grexk@124.107.72.45] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === grexk [n=grexk@124.107.72.45] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco_ [n=jsg123@210.4.11.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] Heya Hobbsee [03:49] heya Hobbsee [03:49] hey bddebian [03:49] hey imbrandon === ryanakca patiently waits for his iconset package to upload to REVU before bugging a MOTU [03:51] lol === imbrandon hides before it gets uploaded === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] what is REVU on anywais? dialup?!?!? [03:52] usually [03:52] heh dinner time bbiab [03:52] it only updates every 5 min, iirc [03:52] hey seth [03:52] are you making fun of my 28.8 kbps dialup? [03:52] imbrandon: heh... lucky you... still uploading [03:53] crimsun: as a matter o'fact I am :P [03:53] lol [03:53] heh [03:53] yeah, well, see if I pay any attention to you. [03:53] fine! I will :P [03:53] lol [03:53] ;p [03:53] hi hi Hobbsee [03:53] "Uploading via ftp kde-icons-crystal-diamond_2.0.orig.tar.gz: " has been running for the past three minutes [03:54] and yes... I complain a lot :D [03:54] yeah, well, don't even start. It takes me 30 minutes to download 5 megs. [03:54] ryanakca: you are uploading it to revu, right? and it's likely that your upload speed is slow [03:54] it's fast when i upload from imbrandon's machine [03:55] Hobbsee: yeah... but you aren't sending 20mb, eh? [03:55] ryanakca: well, yeah. not usually. === Hobbsee has uploaded 18mb orig.tar.gz's from there before [03:55] most of the time, upload to revu is fast [03:55] needless to say, i didnt do it over my connection [03:56] Gah. [03:56] This ash211 character is going around assigning all my ubuntu-universe-sponsors bugs to MOTU. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] beat the crikey out of him/her. [03:57] (pardon the violence) [03:57] lol [03:57] sorry, simplying being near checkinstall makes me very upset. [03:57] (and destroys my grammar) [03:58] hmmm? [03:58] crimsun: and why are you near it? [03:58] heh [03:58] Haha. [03:58] someone in #ubuntu wondered why a checkinstalled gtk theme wasn't working. [03:58] crimsun: hah. right. === Hobbsee prefers yada. [03:58] that's still more evil :P [03:59] checkinstall *sometimes* works, after all. [03:59] oh, speaking of which. what's a good console-based download accelerator? [03:59] why do you need checkinstall for a GTK theme? I used to be able to just drag and drop the link on the install button... back in the days of un-enlightenment... *cough* [03:59] apparently there are lots better alternatives than prozilla [03:59] ryanakca: people LOVE crack. [03:59] CGET I think is one... [03:59] wget ? [04:00] lol [04:00] and a good connection ;) [04:00] lol [04:00] typo [04:00] wget doesnt do threading [04:00] hi [04:00] most server dont allow more than one connection from a single ip anyhow so it dosent matter much [04:01] s/server/servers [04:01] just a second... I'll find you some... FF extension supports lots of them [04:01] ff == console based ? hehe === Hobbsee hugs ajmitch in greeting [04:01] imbrandon: no [04:01] ryanakca, [20:59] oh, speaking of which. what's a good console-based download accelerator? === ajmitch hugs Hobbsee [04:02] heya ajmitch [04:02] imbrandon: but it CAN use console based download accelerators... [04:02] imbrandon: bigpond does. where do you think i get my ISO's from? [04:02] just like it can use KDE based ones (KGET) [04:02] (If I'm being ignorant, feel free to point it out) [04:03] Hobbsee: cURL [04:03] heh i still fail to see how firefox comes into the picture but that may be my ignorance while i wait for my noodles to cook [04:03] right [04:04] imbrandon: FlashGot, a FF extension can use console-based download accelerators. And yes, FF isn't console based [04:04] http://www.flashgot.net/whats [04:04] ryanakca, ok and ? ( my point was where did firefox even come into the convo hehe ) [04:04] ff dosent do much good over ssh ;) [04:05] unless you forward an xsession or soemthing but then i think its still borked iirc becosue ff starts locacly anyhow, but thats a ff bug [04:05] imbrandon: she asked about download managers. I knew of a FF extension that supported a pile of them, so I said wait a second, I'll go get the list of download accelerators... some of them are console based, others no [04:06] imbrandon: have you been around checkinstall as well? It looks like it has the same effects on you as on crimsun [04:06] i HATE checkinstall [04:06] yes === Laser_away shivers [04:06] bad grammar... checkinstall = ick [04:06] ryanakca: please refrain from using profanity in this channel [04:06] lol [04:07] wb LaserJock [04:07] *grumble*did somebody say "checkinstall"*grumble* [04:07] hrm ..... what to have with my noodles .... [04:07] ;-) [04:07] ajmitch: what? checkinstall is the bestest... [04:07] (sorry for the profanity, and the obvious sarcasm) === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o ajmitch] by ChanServ [04:07] yay, kick? [04:07] haha [04:07] hahah i was just lookign for the op button [04:07] ;) === ryanakca twiddles === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o ajmitch] by ajmitch === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o imbrandon] by ChanServ === ajmitch is too nice === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o imbrandon] by imbrandon [04:08] imbrandon: hey! [04:08] i dident know if i was on the access list in here also , was just checking [04:08] heh [04:08] you guys need to get a script that ops kicks deops in a second... [04:08] lol [04:08] I must confess, was my first experince with source packages [04:08] ryanakca: Hobbsee probably has one [04:09] ryanakca, i do but i just wanted to check and i was being lazy no not msg chanserv access blah blah blah [04:09] I know seveas has one... but it's for XC**t... [04:09] ajmitch: i dont, Seveas does. [04:09] imbrandon's writing one for konvi :) [04:09] Is there information somewhere on why exactly checkinstall sucks? I was under the impression that it was preferable to vanilla make install (haven't used checkinstall yet) [04:09] ryanakca, i've been working on a python port of his chanserv.py for konv [04:09] I tried looking at konversation [04:10] it hurt too much [04:10] hehe [04:10] ;) [04:10] stupid dcop mess [04:10] micahcowan: only slightly. [04:10] well well... since I have all the MOTU awake... anybody mind looking at this iconset? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3094 [04:10] konv will use python , perl , bash , what ever, as long as you can dcop from it [04:10] Seveas: wants to [04:10] Hobbsee: it's based on that one we were talking about in kubuntu-devel the other day [04:10] ryanakca: oooh, the icons that mysteriously vanished a day later? [04:11] Does checkinstall tend to break or something? Or is it just in comparison to having a real .deb to install? [04:11] yes... they vanished again... he had release 3, I told myself I'd download them in the morning... they were gone... [04:11] micahcowan, chances of breakage aren't unrealistic === Hobbsee looks at it [04:12] micahcowan, both really, checkinstall is ok for YOUR OWN INSTALL but dont EVER EVER EVER EVER distribute a checkinstall deb [04:12] ryanakca: debhelper needs a versioned dep of >=5, not 4 [04:12] imbrandon: 'ok for your own install' is stretching the truth a bit [04:13] ajmitch, well, it beats 'sudo make install' [04:13] Seveas: by a slim margin [04:13] ajmitch, ok less evil than ........ well not ok still but better than making and distubing one [04:13] Hobbsee: mind sticking that in as a comment please? I'm going to bed... [04:14] Hobbsee: kk, changed it to "Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 5.0.7)" and "Section: kde" === nate_ [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] yep [04:15] ryanakca: did you check another icon package to get all the other info? [04:15] Hobbsee: I based that debian/ on kde-icons-crystal's debian/ [04:15] cool :) [04:15] except I used cdbs instead of that evil debhelper [04:16] imbrandon, thanks for the info. I wasn't planning on it. :-) === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck destroys kde's power thingie with extreme prejudice [04:18] heh [04:18] why? === ryanakca helps fowlduck out [04:18] what's it done to you? [04:18] it's kde, need to ask any more? [04:19] it keeps on saying my battery is low [04:19] it's at 90-some percent [04:19] because it starts up on a desktop, despite the fact that I close it every time I log in... [04:19] and today it put me into hibernation [04:19] ryanakca, your not running the latest version then ;) [04:19] Hobbsee: pbuilder build installs and works fine... [04:19] when my battery wasn't low [04:19] imbrandon: I upgraded yesterday... === ryanakca upgrades [04:19] ryanakca, then file a bug, as it isnt supose to and has been fixed [04:20] fowlduck: ah yes, it likes that. [04:20] Hobbsee: are there known issues with the power right now? [04:20] G'night all [04:20] ryanakca: ther'es a .desktop for it in the /usr/share/autostart [04:20] fowlduck: yeah. that it randomly gives messages [04:20] Hobbsee: oh, good, it's not just me [04:20] Hobbsee: is there a way to kill that gracefully? [04:21] fowlduck: exit it? [04:22] Hobbsee: well, I suppose that's easy enough [04:24] ahh noodles done, hrm what else , choices choices [04:25] (topic refers to REVU day in the past) [04:28] hehe, true that === Hobbsee fixes showimg harder. [04:31] Anybody feel like reviewing http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3084? === administrator [i=jadaz87@unaffiliated/joejaxx] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:39] (and, sorry to pester, but no-one has ever reviewed http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3080 - *sob*) === Hobbsee is fixing a bug before main freeze. === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] poor Plug [04:45] Hobbsee: when is main freeze for knot 3? I need to get a couple of fixes in [04:46] Wednesday, I believe. [04:46] I just counted 140 packages on revu :/ === Fujitsu checks. [04:46] Plug: why are you restarting avahi-daemon in postinst? :) [04:46] `As noted on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule, the feature [04:46] freeze for Edgy is this Thursday, 7th September. It will take effect at [04:46] the start of the Ubuntu development team meeting, which is at 23:00 UTC.' === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] erm-oops. [04:46] Oops. [04:46] Yes. [04:46] Wrong one. [04:46] Fujitsu: that's feature freeze [04:47] Noted. [04:47] I copied from the wrong one... [04:47] Me too! :) [04:47] Ah. [04:47] Here we go. [04:48] Plug: also build-dep on debhelper >= 5.0.0 is appreciated [04:48] ajmitch: you're too good to me [04:48] Feature freeze from `tomorrow morning', says Tollef, sent 16 hours ago. [04:48] *Main freeze [04:48] I'm stuffing everything up now :( [04:48] This now requires me to $HOME to fix [04:48] heh === ajmitch will try & upload fixes tonight if it's not too late [04:48] otherwise we'll just have people live with a broken f-spot for awhile [04:49] ajmitch: about 16 hours from when i asked last night [04:49] so you've got today, but not much longer === Hobbsee looks for a sponsor, if no one else plans to make any changes === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] oh dammit. [05:06] checksum mismatch, and i already removed the dir. [05:08] Hahah. [05:08] hi all [05:08] hey zakame === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] Hi zakame. [05:20] Fujitsu: does zhicon build? [05:20] zhcon, you mean? [05:20] Yes, it does. [05:20] yeah that [05:20] I've ensured they all build, after the gaphor debacle.. [05:21] Fujitsu: You mean you didn't want Hobbsee disemboweling you? [05:21] Er, yes. [05:21] Or anybody else :P [05:21] Fujitsu: hehe. i only thought of it, as i'd looked at that before. === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] Fujitsu: got a debdiff between latest debian and ubuntu please? [05:22] OK, wait a sec. [05:22] evening everybody [05:22] hey Toadstool [05:22] hi Hobbsee [05:23] I thought that between Ubuntu and Ubuntu was preferred, except for new upstream versions. [05:23] Hi Toadstool. [05:23] heya Fujitsu [05:23] Fujitsu: both are good :) [05:23] Fujitsu: Then you have upstream changes in the debdiff [05:23] Fujitsu: in fact, with the requestmerge script, both are given. [05:23] which you then have to comment, but it's sitll better than doing it manually [05:23] I prefer Debian -> Ubuntu, since that should smaller and only contain the Ubuntu changes. [05:24] true that [05:24] Should be, damn it all. [05:24] There are a couple of .po changes. Should I obliterate them? === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] Depends. [05:25] Hm. [05:25] The Debian ones are newer. [05:25] So I'll remove the Ubuntu ones. [05:25] yeah. [05:25] Compare strings too, not just dates. === Hobbsee wonders if scigraphica will now follow python policy [05:26] Hobbsee, no, should I make it do so? [05:26] Debian hasn't released a new version. [05:26] I've been waiting for Debian to do it, because it means less work for us. [05:27] OK, Ubuntu's .po seems to have better strings... [05:27] true that [05:27] StevenK, yeah.. [05:27] there's a new upstream version too, it seems. [05:27] The Debian bug was filed more than a month ago. [05:27] been sitting in debian's bugtracker for 12 days. === StevenK encourages Hobbsee to not look at Linda's bug page. [05:28] Why do the .po changes appear, anyway? [05:28] They're not noted in the changelog anywhere.. [05:28] scigraphica? === ajmitch looks at linda's bug page [05:29] ajmitch: Patches welcome. [05:29] Hobbsee: sciegraphica is a big pain in the butt [05:29] StevenK: patches require effort === Fujitsu attaches Debian->Ubuntu debdiff to the zhcon bug. [05:30] reminds me that I have to an upload tonight - closes 6 debian bugs, 1 of which should be RC :) [05:30] Heh === StevenK has been ignoring his Debian packages lately. [05:31] & upload f-spot to debian again to close the RC bug there [05:31] StevenK: me too :/ === ajmitch blames dbus [05:31] Attached, Hobbsee. [05:31] Fujitsu: What did you attach Hobbsee to? [05:31] Ha. Ha. === StevenK smirks, [05:32] s/\,/./ [05:32] I wish I could update my packages but my parents switched off my dev box :/ [05:32] :O [05:32] How dare they? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.151.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] and it's I dont't know how many thousands miles from here :p [05:33] Why are you not at your dev box? [05:33] heh call them and tell em to turn it back on [05:33] Fujitsu, not everyone sits at their build box ;) [05:33] he's in USA (southern california?); his box is in ... France? [05:33] Ah. [05:33] crimsun: yep [05:33] Why are you in the US? [05:33] Fujitsu: work [05:33] well, internship [05:33] Ah. [05:35] sshable power switches ;) [05:35] hehe [05:36] or just a phone call to the NoC ( parrents in this case ) [05:36] hehe [05:36] imbrandon: Our UPSes here have a web interface. [05:36] Toadstool: yet for me it seems that the only time my main box crashes is when I'm out of the country [05:36] ajmitch: yeah :/ [05:36] Toadstool: heh, smart. [05:36] I'm gonna call them right now, must be 5 am over there :p === ajmitch had great fun with his box dying back in march [05:37] StevenK, yea , our power strips we used were telenet-able but not very secure [05:37] so it was off most of the time [05:38] i think there might have been a web interface too but there was someone 24/7 in the colo room so it wasent a big deal just to call them [05:38] and only a 45min trip if absolutely needed [05:38] ( dead hardware ) [05:39] ooh, a whole lot of text @ me [05:40] ? [05:40] on irc for 7+ days , that has to be a record for me [05:40] Hrm. [05:40] at least I was smart enough to move all my vital things (IRC, mails, jabber, IRC, IRC, ...) on the server I rent in Paris [05:40] My irssi has been running since August the 17th. [05:41] StevenK, hehe , i have bip connected [05:41] I should set up a buildd or a few pbuilders on it too... [05:41] i thought about setting up a dac like system on my fileserver bit falcon is just too easy to go though all that trubble [05:42] s/bit/but === ajmitch checks irssi [05:42] would be nice to upload the source to my local file server though and have it just build on 3 arches hehe [05:43] hm, irssi running since june [05:43] wow [05:43] heh [05:43] imbrandon has been online since 09/05/2006 07:46:25 PM. [05:43] it's not an on edgy box [05:43] hmm [05:43] sarge is good for some things still :) [05:44] hehe === mayday_jay [n=maydayja@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] plus irssi you can upgrade without quitting/restarting it [05:44] forgot the command but i seen it in the man [05:45] Fujitsu: building zhcon now, thanks. [05:45] Thank you :) === Tonio__ [n=tonio@179.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] i had to remember to use your diff instaed of mine :P [05:47] imbrandon: you building anythign on voyager atm? [05:48] I think that any possible positive view of translations I might have had before has just been destroyed by this yudit merge. [05:48] yup kde4base and amarok [05:48] why? [05:48] Hobbsee: you need a fast box to build on :) [05:48] imbrandon: hah! [05:48] imbrandon: right...i just looked at how hard it was running [05:48] ajmitch: i know :P === Hobbsee likes imbrandon's mirror, too [05:49] heh my box build pretty fast but we both seem to be awake and build at the same time alot of the times [05:49] yea it helps having a full apt-mirror on the lan [05:49] Stupid 20000 lines of .po diff, which is entirely reformatting of the file. [05:50] imbrandon: hehe, yeah. and it's almsot freeze time, too. [05:50] knot freeze, no biggie [05:51] There isn't a sane .po differ around, is there? [05:53] diff with relevant -C option [05:53] ? [05:54] I mean, the .po changes in yudit are just reformattings of the .po, like splitting long lines. [05:54] Is there a way to ascertain that other than checking manually? === nixternal [n=nixterna@71.194.189.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] Fujitsu: Not that I can think of. [05:55] Darn. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@ubuntu/member/pdpc.carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] Fujitsu: maybe msgcmp in intltool... [05:57] never used it though === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] carthik: did you see my latest response on -bugsquad? [06:01] there's an #u-bugsquad chan? [06:02] Thanks Hobbsee [06:02] probably a -bugsquad list which I'm not on [06:02] Toadstool: no, i meant the mailing list, sorry [06:02] since I'm not special enough :) [06:02] Toadstool, that was a mailing list she was talking about :) [06:02] oh [06:02] ajmitch: hehe [06:03] Hobbsee, I will try to find some alternative... gnuplot is the tricky thing... [06:03] carthik: true that. i'd ask, anyway === ajmitch wonders if he should join bugsquad [06:05] ajmitch: probably not. you're already in -qa [06:06] ajmitch: it's just a bunch of weirdos wandering around malone with no real purpose, look there's Hobbsee, me, ... :p === Toadstool ducks [06:06] hehe [06:06] Hobbsee: I mean the list [06:06] not the team [06:06] ah [06:06] whether it'll be another list that I subscribe to & ignore [06:07] :) [06:07] ajmitch, there have a grand total of ....4.... threads so far... :) [06:07] allow me my exaggeration... but that is close to the truth, probably [06:08] alright, low traffic, I should subscribe too [06:08] yeah, i was suprised to see anything from it [06:08] As was I. [06:10] Fujitsu: zhcon uploaded [06:10] Thanks :) [06:11] carthik: ah, very important for me to subscribe then [06:11] hmm, for packages which are in sid but not in edgy, I just have to ask for a "sync", right? [06:11] Toadstool: yep [06:11] ok [06:11] use the requestsync script === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] I have my own mail template ;) [06:12] Gloubiboulga: hey \o/ [06:12] that works too [06:12] hey Gloubiboulga [06:12] hey Toadstool :) [06:12] hi Hobbsee [06:12] ahhh finaly, i "fixed" Hobbsee's edgybuild script ;) [06:13] imbrandon: how so? [06:13] imbrandon: nice 19 ? [06:13] imbrandon: it's using ccache now or something? === Hobbsee looks [06:13] haha [06:13] Hobbsee: zhcon? which version? [06:13] StevenK, http://pastebin.ca/167610 [06:13] hehe [06:13] freeflying_: the one on the merge page === Fujitsu locates these famed request{merge,sync} scripts. [06:14] Fujitsu: #55700 is verified build- and installable? [06:14] Fujitsu: w.u.c/DeveloperResources [06:14] Hah [06:14] bug 55700 [06:14] Malone bug 55700 in scigraphica "apt-get build-dep scigraphica fails" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55700 [06:14] i've never seen that message [06:14] clearlyi dont watch it [06:14] imbrandon: I have a pdebuild wrapper for that sort of thing [06:15] ... But why would you replace python2.4-numeric with python-dev?! [06:15] crimsun, I've installed, built, and used it. It works :) [06:15] Oops. [06:15] python-numeric is different and special. [06:15] What? [06:15] I didn't... [06:15] I think the comment I left was wrong. [06:16] Oh right, then I won't kill you. === StevenK grins evilly. [06:16] Er, yeah, I'm not that silly. [06:16] But if I do do something wrong, feel free to kill me in any way you want. [06:16] you meant s/2\.4// [06:16] Yes. [06:16] Oops >_< [06:17] wengophone is broken, unmet libraw1394-5 [06:18] crimsun, I note when you merged xzoom last (for edgy), you kept changes to the Makefile to fix Xorg 7.1 building, when it built fine anyway. [06:19] Fujitsu: sure, override 'em [06:19] I thought so. [06:19] That was on one of my notes to check :) [06:19] They're slowly being reduced... [06:22] StevenK, heh i should nice 19 it, hehe, i was trying to play UO today and then "someone" started to build hehe [06:22] Hah [06:22] You also changed a build-dep from xutils to imake... Is that also OK to override? [06:23] I can't see why that would have been done.. [06:23] imbrandon: Even nice 19 will affect you, I suspect. [06:23] StevenK, yea and i dont use this for musch else but irc and building anyhow so no biggie ;) [06:23] plus nice 19 would effect my builds too [06:23] ;/ === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] Fujitsu: it's ok to override now, yes. [06:24] Fujitsu: xutils is part of imake now? or the other way around? [06:24] if [ $USER = "hobbsee" ] ; then CMD="nice 19 " ; fi [06:25] at the time we hadn't synced with Debian's X.Org xutils-dev [06:25] $CMD pbuilder ... [06:25] Ah. [06:25] OK, thanks. [06:25] imbrandon: I shouldn't give you ideas. [06:25] hehehe [06:25] crimsun: can you do me a favour please? [06:25] StevenK: yes, you shouldnt. remember that i'll see you next week [06:25] Hobbsee: depends on the favour. [06:25] Hobbsee: :-P [06:25] crimsun: can you upload http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/kdenetwork.debdiff for me please? [06:25] Hobbsee: sure, sec. [06:26] hah i hadent even thought about $USER heheh , but i'll be nice ;) [06:27] otherwise i really would have to start using StevenK's machine - and figure it out first. [06:27] heh [06:28] Hobbsee: I've shown you how, I can do it again.. [06:28] BTW if someone would be nice to give my ssh/pbuilder access on a ppc i would be gratefull ;) [06:29] s/my/me [06:29] mine is toooooo dog slow to build on and in OSX 3/4 of the time === StevenK waves a few .debian.org machines at imbrandon. [06:29] StevenK, you can use those to build ? [06:29] any MOTU care to peek at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3092 for a second? It's not a new package, and I'm the maintainer... just a new upstream version [06:30] imbrandon: Sure. [06:30] StevenK, as in something that wont go into the archive [06:30] wow [06:30] i thought about sf.net's build farm but those arent linux on the ppc's [06:30] seth: arent you a MOTU yourself? [06:30] Hobbsee, have never taken the time to apply [06:30] ah [06:31] I'm on ubuntu-members and kubuntu-team, maintain half a dozen packages, but y'know [06:31] you can only fit so much into each day :) [06:31] ;) [06:31] plus why do more work when I can steal unsuspecting MOTUs to do it *runs* [06:31] nah, I probably should apply sometime [06:31] just so busy :( [06:32] Thankyou for all the uploads, crimsun :) [06:32] looks sane to me [06:32] heh [06:32] of course it's sane, I did it [06:32] jk [06:32] :P [06:32] dget http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/md5deep-0609111330/md5deep_1.12-0ubuntu1.dsc [06:32] gah [06:32] imbrandon: Sure. You may need to bug the DSA to install build deps into a chroot, but sure. [06:33] dget: command not found [06:33] ;) [06:33] seth install dget its a god send, anyhow i'll poke it up here in a minute ( assuming it builds fine , but i'm sure you checked that ) [06:33] StevenK, wow i dident know that, that would be awesom [06:33] yeah, I was being silly since you tried to dget from IRC [06:34] imbrandon: You need to be a DD. [06:34] ohh heh [06:34] StevenK, ouch ok nvm, i havent went down that road yet [06:34] imbrandon, yeah, it builds fine and installs, checked in a shiny-clean pbuilder === Fujitsu polishes seth's pbuilder. [06:34] StevenK, been thinking about it but i konw nothing of debian politics and prefer to keep it that way as much as possible ;) [06:38] so Hobbsee, I guess you weren't successful in escaping the clutches of ubuntu-motu eh [06:38] it's okay, there's still hope [06:38] we can run away together [06:38] seth: hehe [06:39] seth: it does seem a bit odd that you taught me how to package, yet you're asking someone like myself to review your stuff :P [06:39] dodgy characters [06:41] Oh yeah. [06:42] Hobbsee, well, 'tis protocol :P [06:42] seth, done and done [06:42] cheers brandon [06:42] ajmitch: We need to get out our walking frames and complain about these young whippersnappers. [06:42] ( both "archived" too on revu just FYI ) [06:42] Me more so, being a DD since 2001. [06:42] lol [06:43] StevenK, lol [06:43] StevenK, well mentor me into becoming a DD ;) === imbrandon go's to get more mt dew before he gets a monitor thown at him [06:44] A? [06:44] Try fifteen or so? === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] Hobbsee, the reason I didn't apply for MOTU last semester is because I would feel obligated to put in more time than I currently have to give... I wouldn't want to feel like I was short-changing the people that approved me [06:44] seth: that's a point [06:44] so I take care of the packages I maintain and give support on #kubuntu... maybe someday that will change a bit [06:45] so I totally found out that Joshua Gay, the guy who edits rms's books, is in my Data Structures class [06:46] It's not unreasonable to hope that approved ubuntu-dev members contribute consistently, but as we're volunteers, it's understandable that "real life" gets in the way. [06:47] plus, my key isn't signed anyways [06:47] seth: mine is, yet it seems to say it isnt. go figure. [06:47] ah, so that's how it's done [06:47] yes, my key is... signed... too [06:47] but it just doesn't look like it [06:48] ;) [06:48] Hm. [06:48] lol [06:48] With crimsun's approval of the cheetah sync, it shows that the description and summary have changed, when they're identical. [06:48] crimsun: this is exactly what's happening to me right now, things have been a little messed by my moving to the USA [06:49] Fujitsu: read more closely. [06:49] (full stop versus hyphen) [06:49] Oh. [06:49] Yes, oops. [06:49] have to buy a new laptop first and then I'm back to work :p [06:49] Thanks for picking that up :) [06:50] np, my job as "sponsor" [06:52] blah... got to go. My renter wants his computer back :/ [06:52] cya [06:53] Bye. [06:55] is it possible to build just one binary package out of a source package that wants to build many packages? [06:55] trappist: In certain situations, yes. [06:55] for example, I just want kwallet out of kdeutils [06:58] toursst went from native to non-native versioning, and had Ubuntu changes. I'll have to just bump the old version number to 0.0.3ubuntu2, won't I? [06:59] i think your missing a -0 in there [06:59] yes, those are lovely. [07:00] Same with carpaltunnel, which I did a while ago. [07:00] imbrandon, no. [07:00] WAH [07:00] I have *big* problems with people doing that. [07:00] If it's native, *LEAVE* it native. [07:00] It was 0.0.3, became 0.0.3ubuntu1, then Debian released 0.0.3-0.1 [07:00] Fujitsu: 0.0.3-0.1 is also wrong [07:01] StevenK, I know. [07:01] argg, that's a native package? [07:01] then ours should be 0.0.3-0.1ubuntu1 in the worst case iirc [07:01] imbrandon, no. [07:01] imbrandon: But you can't. [07:01] imbrandon, that doesn't work. [07:01] imbrandon: 0.0.3ubunut1 > 0.0.3-0.1 [07:01] It has to be 0.0.3ubuntuX, until we get a new upstream version. [07:01] ohh yea, that bits ass [07:01] bites [07:02] wth did someone put 3ubuntu1 and not 3-0ubuntu1 ? [07:02] imbrandon, no. [07:02] Because -0ubuntu1 is wrong. [07:03] imbrandon, It should have been 3ubuntu1 [07:03] for native yea but not a non native [07:04] gah its just a mess [07:04] is it native or not? [07:04] it is a native source package, but the versioning is fubar now. [07:04] becouse of a nmu ? [07:05] The version is wrong for a NMU, though. [07:05] It ought to be 0.0.3.1, not 0.0.3-0.1 [07:05] thats what i thought [07:05] navive nmu shoudl be .1 .2 etc [07:05] afaik [07:05] native* gah [07:06] would it not be better to poke debian to fix the version to 0.0.3.2 and reupload THEN sync ? [07:06] dunno , just a thought [07:07] as 3.2 would be correct AND superceed 0.3-0.1 [07:07] and fix our problems [07:07] I've got to run off home now... [07:07] I'll be back later! [07:07] bye Fujitsu [07:08] StevenK, is that somethign a nmu can do ? ( reupload to fix versioning ? ) [07:10] Yes. However, it might be an uphill battle. [07:10] An NMU just to fix versioning since it affects Ubuntu is likely to be met with hositility. [07:10] everything is met with hostility there.. [07:11] ahh yea it seems so, wish that wasent true [07:11] except some things more so than others [07:13] i still dont get why (some of ) debian is so against ubuntu , but thats not realy a debate for in here , also dpkg's response to ubuntu on oftc is kinda stupid too ( ubuntu is an african word for "i cant configure debian" ) === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] haha that sudo joke is now a tshirt, i got to get one [07:19] http://xkcd.com/store/ === kristog [n=ballio@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === clarence [n=clarence@64.146.179.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] man i need to go back to school ... [07:35] imbrandon: I just started [07:35] post-bachelor [07:35] heya whiprush, cool [07:35] kind of weird [07:35] heh yea, i dunno how i would look pushing 30 going back [07:35] <-- 31 [07:36] but i think it will be worth it, heh yea i'm 29 this year [07:36] screw what people think, bettering yourself is always a good investment. that's my theory [07:36] true === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-239-162.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] What!? ubuntu-universe-sponsors isn't allowed to be up to date with my merges! === Fujitsu fixes. [08:01] your gonna give crimsuns poor 28.8k modem a workout arent you [08:02] Ey, I'm on 28.8k too. === jaldhar_ is now known as jaldhar === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu destroys whoever updated the changelog for scanerrlog like this. === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@dy020198.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === max__ [n=max@dy020230.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === max__ is now known as Sp4rKy === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.206] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] this package needs a second advocate: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3086 . Anyone ? === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@87.65.107.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kyral_ [n=kyral@128.153.219.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0E2E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] good morning [09:41] hey dholbach! [09:42] hi Hobbsee === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-21-181.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@dy020230.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] hi [10:13] i'm trying add a messsage at preinst with debconf [10:13] but when i try a dpkg -i, i've get : === Sp4rKy [n=max@dy020198.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kyral__ [n=kyral@128.153.219.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@dy020230.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@210.0.212.180] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy__ [n=max@dy020198.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] http://pastebin.ca/167729 <== what's wrong here ? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@dy020230.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@host57-27-static.29-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@dy020198.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] ok === Plug tries again [11:01] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3095 [11:01] Now does not restart avahi-daemon! :) === Sp4rKy__ [n=max@dy020230.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@dy020198.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@dy020230.etu.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@dialin110233.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kyral_ [n=kyral@128.153.219.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] <\sh> moins === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] [12:24] Morning, \sh. === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Laser_away [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas_ [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-104-22.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] <\sh> guys, what's wrong with this code in debian/rules: [12:37] <\sh> ifeq (, $(ARCH)) [12:37] <\sh> ARCH += $(DEB_BUILD_ARCH) [12:37] <\sh> endif [12:37] <\sh> ifeq ($(ARCH),x86_64) [12:37] <\sh> CONFFLAGS += --enable-win64 [12:37] <\sh> endif [12:38] <\sh> I want to check if the build arch is x86_64 and then I want to set CONFFLAGS [12:38] look at the mono source package in debian [12:38] it does this exactly [12:38] (in ubuntu we remove the if) [12:39] hang on [12:39] ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_ARCH), amd64) confflags += --with-tls=__thread [12:39] else confflags += --with-tls=pthread [12:39] endif [12:39] add spaces [12:39] line breaks [12:39] they got lost [12:40] <\sh> hmmm...so we have different arch strings for amd64, emt64 etc? because standard is always x86_64, isn't it [12:40] no [12:40] its amd64 [12:42] <\sh> ok... [12:44] <\sh> thx a lo [12:44] <\sh> t === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] \sh: DEB_BUILD_ARCH can be checked with dpkg-architecture, and can be seen in _.deb === kristo [n=ballio@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.197] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@d83-176-6-21.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] ping crimsun [01:35] MoM is still running, right? [01:35] what's that ? [01:36] Merge-o-Matic [01:36] dunno about it [01:36] No, I kind of guessed. :-D [01:39] shawarma, it was running a few hours ago... [01:39] I don't see why it wouldn't be. [01:40] Fujitsu: Any idea why python-scipy is not in there? [01:41] shawarma, I was looking at syncing that just a couple of days back. [01:41] shawarma, it's because it's got no Ubuntu changes. [01:41] It just needs a straight sync. [01:41] Like several thousand other packages. [01:42] My list of science packages lists it as being out of date: [01:42] http://people.ubuntu.com.au/~fujitsu/science/science.html [01:43] You're wanting to request a sync, I presume? === jinty [n=jinty@132.Red-83-55-196.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] Fujitsu: Well, yes, but it appears there's already a bug about it. [01:46] bug #57070 [01:46] Malone bug 57070 in python-scipy-core "Please update to latest version" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57070 [01:46] Fujitsu: what sync do you mean ? sync the ubuntu repos with REVU approved packages ? [01:46] AnAnt, syncing Ubuntu packages from Debian. [01:46] shawarma, ah yes. That's why I was looking to sync it. === Fujitsu turns it into a sync request. [01:47] Fujitsu: ok, I got an approved package (it's archived), but it isn't in the Ubuntu repos yet, should I ask someone to upload it to repos or what ? [01:48] AnAnt, which package? [01:48] Fujitsu: kchmviewer === Fujitsu checks. [01:48] btw, what version of python is in Edgy ? 2.4 or 2.5 ? [01:49] AnAnt, 2.5 is there, but 2.4 is the default. [01:49] does anybody know a workaround for the ugly fonts in firefox/epiphany after a clean edgy install? ;) [01:49] k [01:49] AnAnt, kchmviewer is still sitting in NEW, it needs to be dealt with by one of the archive admins. Shouldn't be too far off. [01:49] Fujitsu: do you know about python ? [01:49] AnAnt, what about it? [01:50] Fujitsu: I need a way to detect what version is there in configure script [01:50] Why do you need to know that? [01:50] Fujitsu: originally the author had this "-lpython" [01:50] Fujitsu: that fails on Ubuntu [01:50] Are you Build-Depending on python-dev? [01:50] Fujitsu: so I fixed it to "-lpython2.4" [01:50] Fujitsu: yes === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] Fujitsu: but I was wondering if there is a better way that this fix I done [01:51] I don't know... [01:52] k [01:52] shawarma, we also need a new python-numpy for python-scipy to build.. [01:55] Fujitsu: Sounds great. :-) [01:55] shawarma, I'm merging that now. [01:56] Fujitsu: That's also just a sync now [01:57] http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/python-numpy/python-numpy_1.0b1-1/changelog says that the changes doko made to our version have been merged into the Debian version. === geser [n=michael@dialin110233.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] No. [01:57] Not all the changes. [01:57] There are two changes that haven't been taken up by Debian. [01:57] Fujitsu: Oh, right. [01:59] Fujitsu: I don't understand what you meant by "kchmviewer is still sitting in NEW, it needs to be dealt with by one of the archive admins." ? [01:59] Fujitsu: dealt for what exactly ? [02:00] AnAnt, it needs to be manually added to universe by one of the archive admins. It's been uploaded, but it's a new package so needs some extra stuff done to it. [02:00] oh [02:01] what you mean by new package ? [02:01] there is a package in Ubuntu called kchmviewer, it is just an update [02:02] Well, the binary packages are waiting, I'm not sure exactly of the process they are meant to go through. [02:02] oh === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] is Edgy supposed to be out in beginning or end of October ? [02:05] AnAnt, 26th, I think. [02:06] k [02:14] what does "pkg-not-in-package-test" mean ? === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.197] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@179.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@infosulb.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-104-22.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou [n=Kagou@84.5.167.198] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@d83-176-6-21.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd_ [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:0:0:0:65] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] ping imbrandon === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd__ [n=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:0:0:0:65] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === nighttrain [n=james@213.232.71.179] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nighttrain [n=james@213.232.71.179] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@87.65.107.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd_ [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:0:0:0:65] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] <\sh> guys if anyone has time please have a look at http://librarian.launchpad.net/4228669/buildlog_ubuntu-edgy-amd64.wine_0.9.20-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [04:07] <\sh> there is a problem with unicode...on amd64 === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd_ [i=ctd@2001:388:c152:6:0:0:0:65] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] hm, is pbuilder in edgy broken [04:22] or at least debootstrap? [04:24] slomo: i'v got no problem with pbuilder today [04:24] when creating a new chroot? [04:25] i get "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/5346/. mount -t proc proc /proc" on each try, no matter whether it is edgy or a sid chroot [04:26] not tested this. i can if you want === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] please do :) [04:29] let's go === Kagou hugs dholbach === dholbach hugs Kagou back [04:36] slomo: doing a "sudo pbuilder create --distribution dapper" works fine here [04:37] Kagou: hrm, ok thanks :( [04:37] slomo: your welcome === Mirrado [n=Mirrado@20150086180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chantra [n=chantra@AToulouse-257-1-94-67.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff [n=test@74.129.168.9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] Heya gang === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@c-71-232-45-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@179.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@179.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@179.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@179.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@recurve-09.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.147.28] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:20e:a6ff:fea4:4ab5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host179-132.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@acy207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B2D67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@85-125-229-117.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@dialin110233.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] Heya LaserJock === kagou [n=kagou@84.6.192.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] hi bddebian === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.217] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] ping ajmitch [07:13] bddebian: thanks for the advocation [07:13] again [07:14] NP :-) [07:14] AnAnt: ajmitch is probably asleep [07:14] is there anyone else to clear an upload ? [07:15] I need to clear an incomplete upload of elinks-full [07:15] anyone ? === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] ping crimsun === seth_ [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] ping lionelp [07:18] ping siretart [07:20] where's everyone ? [07:21] ping LaserJock [07:21] yeah [07:21] LaserJock: can you clear an incomplete upload ? [07:21] nope [07:22] LaserJock: who can ? [07:22] raphink: need some REVU help === Arbiter [n=arbiter@unaffiliated/arbiter] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] ping raphink [07:22] yes yes [07:22] I'm a bit busy right now [07:23] what has to be removed? 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[08:43] A review of elinks? [08:43] bddebian: how did you guess ? [08:43] elinks-full though [08:43] not elinks [08:44] OK, let me see if I can get to my machine at home [08:44] if you read lionelp's review on elinks, you'd understand why I did that [08:46] k [08:46] who else can I trick to review another package ? [08:46] btw, anyone from France here ? [08:47] AnAnt: I can tell you right away that you need to remove all the autoconf generated files if possible [08:48] it's in the orig [08:48] how would I do that ? [08:50] btw, you'll find a manpage warning [08:50] but I dunno how to fix it [08:51] The manpage? [08:51] yeah [08:52] oh my gosh [08:53] !!! [08:53] ? [08:53] UDS Mountain View!!! [08:53] ? [08:54] the next dev summit is at Google Headquaters [08:54] that rhymes with Mountain Dew [08:54] LaserJock: yeah...sign up today :) [08:54] what is that ? [08:54] which is a 4 hr drive [08:54] wahooo [08:55] LaserJock: i take it you are going? [08:55] I was pretty sure it was going to be west coast [08:55] but I thought LA or San Diego [08:55] I thought it was google not wahoo [08:55] San Diego would be better [08:55] I actually wasn't going to go [08:55] but I might change my mind now [08:55] as I wouldn't need to fly [08:56] guess what, I searched for UDS Mountain View on Google and didn't find anything relevant on the first page === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] well got to sleep [08:59] LaserJock: can't I trick you to second a package ? [09:01] perhaps [09:01] AnAnt: Did you look at the manpage to see if there was some weirdness in that file? === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:01] LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3086 [09:02] bddebian: what is "weirdness" ? I only written a man page once, and that was after using some help2man converter === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] AnAnt: Well I think it tells you what part of the document has an issue: p 16, 0.8i, div `an-div', 0.2i [09:04] In case you don't notice, I'm not a manpage expert either :-) [09:05] I thought it was line 994 === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] hmm, I wonder if maybe I don't need sponsorship [09:11] ok, really got to sleep === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@69.36.252.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CocaCola77 [n=notyourb@s55924cc8.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philwyett [n=philip@80-195-142-67.cable.ubr02.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50801FDE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=supermar@68-115-81-248.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] Could someone tell me how to add my screenshot for a package into the revu upload? [10:24] I was following the Ubuntu packaging guide, and it didn't detail anything about such a thing === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] superm1, screenshot for what? [10:28] .debs typically don't have screenshots associated with them [10:28] (as far as I am aware, anyway) [10:28] Well crimsun mentioned to take a screenshot of my package when I finished it [10:29] and was ready to upload it === snedar [n=snedar@ip503c2a37.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] he also wanted a pbuilder log to go with it [10:29] superm1: that should go in the bug report [10:29] not on revu [10:30] OK, so general process. Its uploading to revu, and there are bugs already open related to updating this package. Should I just attach to one of those bugs on launchpad then, or open a new one indicating that its on revu now? [10:31] this is a bug fix or a merge? [10:31] its a new merge [10:31] its for mythtv [10:31] to bring it up to 0.20 [10:31] comment on the existing bug report [10:31] but the source is to sync from a newer debian repository [10:31] Ok [10:32] superm1: those attachments are revelant to LP bug reports, not REVU. [10:32] Ah okay. [10:32] was a bit confused [10:33] So once its actually up on REVU and I attach a screenshot/pbuilder log to the bug, do I need to ask an admin to look at it? Or what exactly is next? [10:34] sorry, just got called away to a meeting. If imbrandon needs my backing for TB, I've worked with him on various packages (konversation and apt-mirror come to mind immediately), and he has my +1. [10:35] wrong chan crimsun [10:35] hehe [10:35] Oh shix, is there a meeting? [10:36] bddebian: just TB [10:36] Just the TB? [10:36] that is what I said [10:37] yea i';m going for main and could use some cheers ;) [10:37] superm1: probably ping crimsun or another MOTU to have a look [10:37] Main? [10:37] Main? [10:37] LaserJock: core-dev === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] We gonna lose another one to main? :-) [10:37] ajmitch: full of answers today aren't you? ;-) === ajmitch should just leave then [10:38] Bah [10:38] Okay, well then later on tonight I'll be here again to have you guys take a look at it. thanks :) [10:38] bye === bddebian hugs ajmitch [10:39] oh, it's been going fo 40 min? [10:40] so the next ubuntu dev summit is in bushistan === hub has a good laugh now [10:40] hardly [10:40] too close to San Fransisco [10:41] san francisco is bushistan === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] hah [10:41] I really don't think the majority of SF would agree ;-) [10:41] And I really don't care [10:41] who is their president? [10:42] but whatever [10:42] the mayor of SF === LaserJock feels too close to SF already ;-) [10:42] there is a major for science fiction ? [10:43] ogra: LOL [10:43] isn't that what Trekies do in college [10:43] :) === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@ado8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] Excellent morning news. ajmitch's last two fixes on board, I have a http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3099 ready === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:55] good evening [10:55] morning :) [10:55] morning Plug :) === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.147.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] morning Plug [11:04] hey [11:06] imbrandon: well done, [11:07] anybody feel like reviewing an iconset? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3098 [11:08] ajmitch, thanks [11:09] man that was a grilling [11:09] that was nothing ;) [11:11] is there another revu day planned before universe feature freeze ? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@179.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] Adri2000: we can arrange one [11:13] it would be great [11:15] ajmitch: can you confirm that new packages can't be added after September 28th ? [11:15] if it's right, just 2 weeks remaining [11:18] as far as I'm aware, that is true [11:18] however there may be some few exceptions made [11:18] I don't know if this has been discussed yet [11:19] Christian Marrilat sure is fast. === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] Congrats imbrandon, now go take a nap :-) [11:27] heh [11:29] haha [11:32] thanks bddebian hehe [11:32] sleep well, i wont be far behind, i'll need to nap soon [11:32] ( in my OWN bed though hehehe ) === beligum [n=beligum@d54C49C69.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@eggplant-25.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] Guys I added the myth packages to REVU, with dput about 40 minutes ago, but they aren't showing up on the page. [11:36] is there something else to it? [11:36] Hi all, I have a problem packaging ScreenKast for edgy: it depends on libdts-dev (available according the website), but while building, pbuilder doesn't find it [11:37] beligum: what repository? [11:37] superm1: you need to be in the launchpad group & the keyring on revu, which an admin needs to sync [11:37] universe [11:37] I joined the group before uploading [11:37] beligum: and do you have universe in your pbuilder? [11:37] can I have an admin sync it then? [11:38] superm1: I'm doing that now [11:38] Ok, cool thanks [11:38] good question, adjust /etc/pbuilderrc ? [11:39] beligum, yea there should be something like [11:39] MIRRORSITE=http://192.168.1.5/ubuntu [11:39] OTHERMIRROR="deb http://192.168.1.5/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse" [11:39] ( not that ip obviously ) [11:39] thats MY local mirror ;) [11:39] just looking at COMPONENTS, that too? [11:39] COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" [11:40] ah, ok, mine is commented out === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:45] no need for OTHERMIRROR with COMPONENTS support [11:46] thanks, it works [11:46] ajmitch, after you sync, will I need to re-upload to revu, or will the packages just show up since I've been synced in? [11:46] Can someone review this iconset please? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3098 [11:49] superm1: they'll show up in a minute or so [11:49] Ok great === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] what's the difference between universe and multiverse ? [11:52] (sorry for asking) [11:53] beligum: multiverse has non-free packages [11:54] oh, I thought that was restricted [11:54] beligum, both are not supported by canonical and multiverse has stuff that has troublesome licenses [11:54] restricted and main are supported by canonical, restrcited is also stuff that was troublesome licenses [11:54] I see [11:55] beligum, you a debian user? [11:55] no, kubuntu [11:55] but didn't know that [11:55] ubuntu.com/components (I think) [11:56] What is keeping MythTV in multiverse? [11:56] Plug, dependencies of non-free stuff, at a guess (I have not looked at it) [11:58] hmmm, pbuilder takes aaaages [11:58] is there a way to speed it up after a succesful build? === selinuxium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] ccache [11:59] (I need to tweak the debian/control file) [11:59] Looks like the dependency that would make it multiverse is liblame [11:59] I think everything else is main/universe [11:59] ccache ? [12:00] Description: Compiler results cacher, for fast recompiles === hardaur [n=gander@adsl-70-235-12-6.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hardaur [n=gander@adsl-70-235-12-6.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:01] I know, but how can I use it while packaging? [12:02] integrate it with pbuilder [12:02] my devel-laptop is dead atm, so I haven't got my conf handy. [12:03] Nafallo: and I was about to tell you to put the config on the wiki :) [12:03] ajmitch: :-) === huats [n=chris@huats.reponses.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] does anybody can give me a few hints to build a .deb package starting from a python soft ?